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[EasyRider]

Hi there,

Is any good apartment or Hotel GP Friently in RJ? I planning to go for about 2 weeks April or May.

Thanks,

Demetris

[curacaoman]

Seriously, I'd plan differently. Do one or the other. SP is the biggest city in the Southern Hemisphere. Rio is also a big city fractured into diferent areas. And Brazil itself is a big culture shock. To do the two cities in ten days you would need to have a very exact timetable plus back-up plans in case you hit delays (which are a constant SP problem and common enough in RJ especially if it rains. If you are only going to dip your toes, you might want to get someone to buddy you in SP and possibly RJ. Possible. Five in each because, even if there's 'more to do' in RJ, it will take you longer to do what you do in SP.

A couple of other points as SP and RJ are incredibly different. The tourist spots in RJ are straightforward "sights" (Cristovao, Sugar Loaf, Botanics) and all you have to do is plan how to get them without wasting lots of time. And of course RJ has a beach (32 beaches to be more exact). In SP, the distances are bigger, and the best tourist attractions (IMO) are things like the galleries or the ambience of the different city neighbourhoods (eg Madalena, Paulistana, Liberdade). It's only a short trip between the two, but the trip from the airport in SP can take longer than the flight. Your essentials for RJ are Bubba's guide, Sperto's lists, and a map and a plan. Your essentials for SP are working out how to get to the monger spots of your choice and the tourist spots of your choice (get the wrong turning and half a day or more can be wasted).

But unless you are very determined to do both, stick to one. Five days is not long enough to get much of a taste. And even everything aside I'd have to say do RJ for a first Brazil visit as it is definitely simpler than SP.Many Thanks Chris & Albert.

[Almotu]

Hi all,

First time travel to Brazil. My primary purpose of the trip is visit the tourists spots and get laid. Planning to visit Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro.

My stay is 10 days is total. How would you guys divide the days? 5 5 or 4 days SP. 6 days RIO?

ThanksIf you live in the US, most of the airlines will let you fly into one city and return from the other so all you need is one internal flight between Rio & Sao Paulo. But 10 days is not long enough to explore both cities, IMHO.

[Brazil Specialist]

There is Princess Promenade Hotel in Rua Xavier the Silveira.

Consider a room in my apartment. PM me to get details.


Hi there,

Is any good apartment or Hotel GP Friently in RJ? I planning to go for about 2 weeks April or May.

Thanks,

Demetris

[Sperto]

Consider a room in my apartment. PM me to get details.
BS, as our inside man in Rio, do you notice the lack of mongers tourists or can you profit be the new record of normal tourists record in Rio?
What's your expectations of Copa do Mundo when it comes to rental?

[The Cane]

Anybody ever see this kind of behavior in a terma?

http://nesn.com/2013/12/mass-fan-brawl-halts-brazilian-soccer-game-leaves-three-seriously-injured-video/

I say shut down the football and leave the termas open!

[FuckAfMedDig]

Anybody ever see this kind of behavior in a terma?

http://nesn.com/2013/12/mass-fan-brawl-halts-brazilian-soccer-game-leaves-three-seriously-injured-video/

I say shut down the football and leave the termas open!Ha! I hear you but the termas are a thorn in their public image despite many of the government officials, politicians, mid to high level Policias, doctors, judges, municipal clerks and lawyers frequent them-especially 4 x 4! (I have met a few myself!)

The hypocrisy with which they operate will backfire spectacularly I feel when the world witness the shambles that is current day Brazil.

A GDP from MC told me via email today that it will stay open as they are upping the bribes.

I'm not so sure it will hold up this time.

Outcalls will boom and the streets, clubs, bars, expos, restaurants etc will be crawling with gdps-watch. I personally have spoken to many about the upcoming scenario and for them its (more) business as usual.

[Poucolouco]

Here is all that remains of the Copa Linda Motel. It had been closed for a year or so. It will be replaced by another hotel. This may be part of the gentrification of Copacabana, but is more likely just a different business model for the property. There are numerous small hotels under construction throughout Copacabana, reflecting greater emphasis on the pure tourism market.

[Sperto]

Here is all that remains of the Copa Linda Motel. It had been closed for a year or so. It will be replaced by another hotel. This may be part of the gentrification of Copacabana, but is more likely just a different business model for the property. There are numerous small hotels under construction throughout Copacabana, reflecting greater emphasis on the pure tourism market.
That was absolutely no loss at all. A overpriced really shitty motel.
I get nightmares just remembering the night I spent there. With AC turned on it was freezing cold. Without AC it was sweaty as hell. Gliding around on top of a plastic mattress was not a nice experience.
Rio has lots of good value motels. The worst ones are/were Copa Linda and Vanity (very overpriced) in Copacabana.

[Poucolouco]

That was absolutely no loss at all. A overpriced really shitty motel.

I get nightmares just remembering the night I spent there. With AC turned on it was freezing cold. Without AC it was sweaty as hell. Gliding around on top of a plastic mattress was not a nice experience.

Rio has lots of good value motels. The worst ones are / were Copa Linda and Vanity (very overpriced) in Copacabana.Vanity should be demolished as well. It was convenient for a quickie from Help or Terraco Atlântico. But with those attractions gone, Vanity is not convenient to anything.

Copa Linda was a favorite of GDPs because they earned the highest rebate there.

[Exec Talent]

I have many fond Vanity memories. One time I was walking the beach in Copa around 7:00 AM when I came upon a girl who obviously had been up all night. We started talking and told her that I would love to spend time with her but had no money on me and no way of getting any. I told her if the manager at Vanity would agree, we could go there and I would bring her some money later. Off we went. I told the manager I had absolutely nothing on me. No ID, no credit cards and no cash but would be back before noon to pay the room and the girl. Without hesitation he handed me a room key. Had a great time with the girl and made it back before noon to make good on my promises. The fact that it reminded me of the seedy motel in the movie Big never bothered me. What got to me was how many gay couples I saw scampering about (not that there is anything wrong with being gay or even scampering. GLAAD members).

[MichaelSchoefs]

Hello,

I just booked my trip to Rio and Sao Paulo during the world cup. But I can't find an hotel Under 200USD anymore on the websites. Where can I find an small place? Off course I would have to be able to bring girls in my room.

If anyone interested to share next summer. I'm a 35 year old man, good looking, speak English French and little Portuguese.

Thank you

[The Cane]

I saw a preview for this program recently and thought some might be interested. The upcoming season will include women from Brazil, Colombia, Russia, Ukraine, and the Philippines:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/tlc-goes-international-90-day-665840

[Jan 156]

Hello,

I just booked my trip to Rio and Sao Paulo during the world cup. But I can't find an hotel Under 200USD anymore on the websites. Where can I find an small place? Off course I would have to be able to bring girls in my room.Hotel prices are high just now anyway, and they will not be shy about raising them for the World Cup. But if you are not too concerned about quality, places in Centro are still being offered in June at around $130 a night. Some of these are 'motels' which is Brasilian-speak for an adults-only hotel for sexual encounters (not all of these are with hookers, the women you see there may mostly be having discreet affairs). But these places are in very cheap areas. As long as you are careful, they are safe enough, but the streets may be dirty and not so well lit. Good luck.

[NycGuy883]

Hotel prices are high just now anyway, and they will not be shy about raising them for the World Cup. But if you are not too concerned about quality, places in Centro are still being offered in June at around $130 a night. Some of these are 'motels' which is Brasilian-speak for an adults-only hotel for sexual encounters (not all of these are with hookers, the women you see there may mostly be having discreet affairs). But these places are in very cheap areas. As long as you are careful, they are safe enough, but the streets may be dirty and not so well lit. Good luck.Renting vacation apartments will be your best bet. I have been to Rio twice and both times have used vacation apartments. Both were girl friendly.

[Fast Eddie 48]

Hotel prices are high just now anyway, and they will not be shy about raising them for the World Cup. But if you are not too concerned about quality, places in Centro are still being offered in June at around $130 a night. Some of these are 'motels' which is Brasilian-speak for an adults-only hotel for sexual encounters (not all of these are with hookers, the women you see there may mostly be having discreet affairs). But these places are in very cheap areas. As long as you are careful, they are safe enough, but the streets may be dirty and not so well lit. Good luck.To Christpherd

I don't know that you want to stay near Centro this is a bad area I stay at Libertdade area near Japan town you can find some clean Hostel there for around 70 USD a night in july , many massage place and good looking Japanese mix girl around the area.

Fast Eddie 48

[Mr Enternational]

To Christpherd

I don't know that you want to stay near Centro this is a bad area I stay at Libertdade area near Japan town you can find some clean Hostel there for around 70 USD a night in July, many massage place and good looking Japanese mix girl around the area.Only problem is that Liberdade is in Sao Paulo and they are talking about Rio.

[Fast Eddie 48]

Only problem is that Liberdade is in Sao Paulo and they are talking about Rio.Yes Mr Enternational.

I not sure he mean RIO both city have a Centro area and Zone centro in Sao Paulo, trying to get a decent hotel in RIO for under 100 USD during world cup is tough most hotel is book solid already or they are just holding the room and rise the price.

Fast Eddie 48

[Mangera]

I was in Rio during June, July, and part of August last year during the soccer torunament, and there were many demonstrations and so forth. Streets were closed off, buss. were closed, and ofcourse some idiots began to rob and destroy properties while others were peacefully protesting for a valid cause. There has been very little talk about how more of these actions can take place again during the World Cup games. That being said, I have a hunch more planned, and detailed protests are being planned in the upcomming months. It even has me thinking and hesitant on buying a ticket for a visit during the games. Might just play it safe, and go after the games.

[FuckAfMedDig]

I was in Rio during June, July, and part of August last year during the soccer torunament, and there were many demonstrations and so forth. Streets were closed off, buss. were closed, and ofcourse some idiots began to rob and destroy properties while others were peacefully protesting for a valid cause. There has been very little talk about how more of these actions can take place again during the World Cup games. That being said, I have a hunch more planned, and detailed protests are being planned in the upcomming months. It even has me thinking and hesitant on buying a ticket for a visit during the games. Might just play it safe, and go after the games.My friends who are students said thats its going to kick off big time in every city where games are staged-and so it should!

Fuck the Brazilian government, Rousseff, Dilma and every other thief and criminal. Especially as the media of the world will be there so its perfect time to expose Brazil's dictatorship-like rulers. It is also election year so its all going to backfire spectacularly on Brazil. I want to see changes so hopefully this helps somehow.

Also with internet technology readily available to everyone, the media can't censor street activities or blow smoke-screens and invalidate protestors as violent thugs-these are everyday people from all walks of life tired of the corruption and missappropriation of public funds.

I also predict a property crash of gigantic proportions as the economy starts to struglle in the wake of both these events as right now parts of Rio have the priciest real estate in South America (Leblon).

[Bravo]

I also predict a property crash of gigantic proportions as the economy starts to struglle in the wake of both these events as right now parts of Rio have the priciest real estate in South America (Leblon).I agree 100% Once the games are over, property value will fall like panties on prom night!

[The Cane]

Well this was timely. I saw this article today. It gives a wholly positive spin on Brazil. I actually find the comments from the readers that follow the article to be far more interesting (and telling) as many of them give a fuller picture:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0.id=maing-grid7

I guess if you can have a good income in Brazil and a solid middle-class lifestyle, then life can be pretty good. And if not, then it can suck. But, how does that make Brazil any different than any other place on earth?

[The Cane]

Let's try this again:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/28/what-brazil-can-teach-the_0_n_4662253.html?&icid=maing-grid7

[Java Man]

Rio bus fare increasing to $R3 Feb 8, (a Friday,) per Oglobo. This is a 25 cent increase. All the nation wide protests in June were for a 10 cent increase. I expect to see a new round of protests and street clashes in Rio soon. Why a Friday? Maybe to let everyone protest over the weekend?

http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/passagem-de-onibus-vai-subir-para-3-em-8-de-fevereiro-11445621

[Mr Enternational]

Rio bus fare increasing to $R3 Feb 8, (a Friday,) per Oglobo. This is a 25 cent increase. All the nation wide protests in June were for a 10 cent increase.Paid R$3 last week in Sao Paulo.

[Bravo]

I have seen girls do it many times but I have no idea what it means. What is the significance when they form an X with their two pointer fingers, place it in front of their mouths, and then kiss the X symbol?

[Exec Talent]

I have seen girls do it many times but I have no idea what it means. What is the significance when they form an X with their two pointer fingers, place it in front of their mouths, and then kiss the X symbol?My official source says it means to keep what she told you a secret.

[Bravo]

My official source says it means to keep what she told you a secret.Hummm, maybe that gesture has a couple of different meanings because it wasn't a secret she was telling at the time she made the motion.

[Bravo]

Why do Brazilians hate "left overs"? I don't know what it is, but every brazilian girl I have ever dealt with on a personal level, won't eat left overs. (doesn't matter if its a GDP or regular chick). Every time we go out to eat in a restaurant, the females take like 4-5 bites of their food and then claim that they are full. When I ask the waitress to bag everything up so we can take it to go, the girls make a face. If I say "Well you can have it tomorrow for lunch" they have all told me that they won't eat it and will only throw it out. My x-fiancee always did that shit and it used to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off because I would spend all that money to take her out and she would never eat the whole meal.

In Brasil, I can kinda understand because maybe not everyone had a microwave in their home, but in America, I don't get the reason why they won't eat it. Maybe its a cultural thing.

[Eric Cartman]

Why do Brazilians hate "left overs"? I don't know what it is, but every brazilian girl I have ever dealt with on a personal level, won't eat left overs. (doesn't matter if its a GDP or regular chick). Every time we go out to eat in a restaurant, the females take like 4-5 bites of their food and then claim that they are full. When I ask the waitress to bag everything up so we can take it to go, the girls make a face. If I say "Well you can have it tomorrow for lunch" they have all told me that they won't eat it and will only throw it out. My x-fiancee always did that shit and it used to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off because I would spend all that money to take her out and she would never eat the whole meal.

In Brasil, I can kinda understand because maybe not everyone had a microwave in their home, but in America, I don't get the reason why they won't eat it. Maybe its a cultural thing.I have been living here in RJ for over 3 years, and I can't say I've seen this behavior. In fact, my chick took home the better part of her lunch from Bibi Sucos the other day, left it in my fridge, and then forgot it when she left. I texted her saying "hey someone left this delicious lunch in my fridge!" and she responded with a stream of obscenities about how she was pissed she forgot it because it was going to be her lunch the next day. So I don't know. Every time I go to Cervantes, the chick takes her uneaten half of the sandwich home.

[DJ FourMoney]

Paid R$3 last week in Sao Paulo.$1. 50 to take the bus here in Los Angeles, $5 for a day pass, $84 for monthly pass, $34 for students / disabled / elderly.

If you really got it hard, DPSS will give you $20 in bus tokens.

[Kid Cisco]

Why do Brazilians hate "left overs"? I don't know what it is, but every brazilian girl I have ever dealt with on a personal level, won't eat left overs. (doesn't matter if its a GDP or regular chick). Every time we go out to eat in a restaurant, the females take like 4-5 bites of their food and then claim that they are full. When I ask the waitress to bag everything up so we can take it to go, the girls make a face. If I say "Well you can have it tomorrow for lunch" they have all told me that they won't eat it and will only throw it out. My x-fiancee always did that shit and it used to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off because I would spend all that money to take her out and she would never eat the whole meal.

In Brasil, I can kinda understand because maybe not everyone had a microwave in their home, but in America, I don't get the reason why they won't eat it. Maybe its a cultural thing.Bravo,

I seen things change over the years in the bad and hard times I seen some girls ask for their food to be bag up and they would warm them in my apt. BUT I seen others that would bag up food and give away the food to the street kids that would hang out in front of Club Help, it didn't matter if the food came from Bob's or Mia P or one of the buffet houses. BUT within the last few years some of the girls seem to look down on anyone that bag up or ask for to-go boxes now like that have it like that. $$$ I look at it this way if she is paying for her food she can eat it all there or take it home or leave it BUT if I am paying she better eat it or take it with her OR she is going to pay her half I can't stand a chick that beg to go to a nice place that cost me money and then take a few bites and fold her arms and say she ready to leave. BUT here is the worst I am Facebook a lot and Twitter I have watch many girls from Brazil that will have horny ass tricks take them to 5 stars hotels and high end places to wine and dine and they will post picture after picture of steak and crabs and other food that cost a lot $$$ and then after they take a few bites and take their pictures they ready to leave and then I had a Simp tell me this chick wanted to go by Bob's and eat after he spent a ton of reals for dinner. WTF?

The bottom line these girls in Brazil LOVE to floss and show off and act like they are big shots and rolling in money $$$ that's ok BUT don't be the sucker and Simp they get to buy them red bottom shoes and high-end hand bags and iphone's and Apple Mac Book Pro etc. So they can post them on Facebook and then play like they are disgusted if you ask for some pussy LOL.

I ready for them to be a FRONT door hooker and not a backdoor Gold-digger in other words either you pay them up front for some ass or leave them alone and not be used.

Kid Cisco

[AltoBomGosto]

http://www.acasadasbrasileirinhas.com.br/home

[FuckAfMedDig]

Bravo,

I seen things change over the years in the bad and hard times I seen some girls ask for their food to be bag up and they would warm them in my apt. BUT I seen others that would bag up food and give away the food to the street kids that would hang out in front of Club Help, it didn't matter if the food came from Bob's or Mia P or one of the buffet houses. BUT within the last few years some of the girls seem to look down on anyone that bag up or ask for to-go boxes now like that have it like that. $$$ I look at it this way if she is paying for her food she can eat it all there or take it home or leave it BUT if I am paying she better eat it or take it with her OR she is going to pay her half I can't stand a chick that beg to go to a nice place that cost me money and then take a few bites and fold her arms and say she ready to leave. BUT here is the worst I am Facebook a lot and Twitter I have watch many girls from Brazil that will have horny ass tricks take them to 5 stars hotels and high end places to wine and dine and they will post picture after picture of steak and crabs and other food that cost a lot $$$ and then after they take a few bites and take their pictures they ready to leave and then I had a Simp tell me this chick wanted to go by Bob's and eat after he spent a ton of reals for dinner. WTF?

The bottom line these girls in Brazil LOVE to floss and show off and act like they are big shots and rolling in money $$$ that's ok BUT don't be the sucker and Simp they get to buy them red bottom shoes and high-end hand bags and iphone's and Apple Mac Book Pro etc. So they can post them on Facebook and then play like they are disgusted if you ask for some pussy LOL.

I ready for them to be a FRONT door hooker and not a backdoor Gold-digger in other words either you pay them up front for some ass or leave them alone and not be used.

Kid CiscoExactly!

I slipped once and paid one phone bill of 100 Rheais.thats it-and as soon as they see that a massage is next etc etc. Other than that, I see my gdps outside of work or they take time off and we hang for nothing-if I eat, they eat but no different to back home. Even the stars of their upscale termas get same treatment or I just don't call them.

You just have to be firm, charming and kill them in bed and all will be good-let some other Donald Duck fill their bottles up.

Non-pro game is a little different in the sense that you must-like at home- never start by being overly generous or they expect it for the duration.

[Jan 156]

Paid R$3 last week in Sao Paulo.It's well worth getting a Bilhete Unico card for Sampa. Much simpler than Rio. Load up the card with as much or as little as you like and it never expires. It also gives you discounts when you use it more than once in a given time period on a single day and can be used on buses, Metro and even the trains (CPTM). Available from many stations, and machines are available to top up or check your balance. Saves money, time and hassle.

[Exec Talent]

http://www.acasadasbrasileirinhas.com.br/homeStopped watching after 5 seconds. Looks and sounds like a Transvestite.

[Albert Punter]

Could be "I swear" or could be they refer to something religious?


I have seen girls do it many times but I have no idea what it means. What is the significance when they form an X with their two pointer fingers, place it in front of their mouths, and then kiss the X symbol?

[PussyLiccker]

Hi guys,

I've never been to Brazil and was curious how the girls looks there. I have attached a picture of a girl that look identical to one of my favorite girls at a German FKK club. She is half German and other African. I was wondering if lots of girls look like her in Brazil.

[Mr Enternational]

I've never been to Brazil and was curious how the girls looks there. I have attached a picture of a girl that look identical to one of my favorite girls at a German FKK club. She is half German and other African. I was wondering if lots of girls look like her in Brazil.Why not just go to the Photo Gallery to look? Brazil is a multi-racial country. If you must have a girl who looks like that why not stick to the FKKs where you found that one?

[The Cane]

Why not just go to the Photo Gallery to look? Brazil is a multi-racial country. If you must have a girl who looks like that why not stick to the FKKs where you found that one?I've been telling this bloke the same thing repeatedly. I've even posted some pictures. And yet, he keeps asking the same questions about Brazil over and over again! At some point, you have to either fish or cut bait. Do your research. Check out the many, many pics. Then if you're still interested, plan a trip so that you can go see for yourself.

The only caveat I would issue is not to have your decision hinge entirely on other mongers' pictures of the tutes. I mean, before my first Rio trip I felt like I was seeing so many "ugly pics" that I really had no desire to go to Brazil. Well, a buddy was pleading with me to go. Screaming even LOL! Well, he was right. He understood my tastes perfectly and what I like, and he knew I would consistently find exactly what I want in Brazil.

The rest was history. And I learned a valuable lesson too. Never, ever let the pictures other members take 100 per cent sway your decision whether to go or not to go to any particular destination. It should be a factor, but not the predominate one. There's so much more to consider. I would have never gone to Brazil the first time had I followed my own instincts. And boy am I glad there was an "intervention"!

You see, it could just be that the guy who took those pics has no taste LOL! I mean, why would somebody fly all that way just to pay to fuck that you say to yourself! OK, let's be nice and say that maybe his tastes are vastly different from your own. Also consider that maybe his budget is smaller than yours, which means that he can't afford places that will offer greater numbers of the better looking women. Of course, the more money that you pay doesn't always add up to better service, but I do find a positive correlation between coin available and willing to be spent and access to the hot girls. This is how it works in life.

So that said, one should just keep all of this in mind. Then go fish or cut bait! In PL's case (and others like him) he's so concerned about whether or not the women will be "white enough" that I think he should just stick with Germany and the FKKs. I love those too, but only second to Brazil! Also, the Brazil sex scene is going through a bit of transition right now, so it may not be the best time for a noob to go.

[Bravo]

Could be "I swear" or could be they refer to something religious?I was in MC with two girls in the room. One a big booty mulatta and the other, Porn star Kelly. The mulatta was sucking my dick while Kelly was kissing my neck. I stopped Kelly and pointed at my dick to let her know it was her turn to start sucking. That is when she did the X symbol with her fingers, kissed them and shook her head no.

[Bubba Boy]

I was in MC with two girls in the room. One a big booty mulatta and the other, Porn star Kelly. The mulatta was sucking my dick while Kelly was kissing my neck. I stopped Kelly and pointed at my dick to let her know it was her turn to start sucking. That is when she did the X symbol with her fingers, kissed them and shook her head no.Is Kelly still there? Man I saw her like 2005 there!

[RockTimes]

Does anybody have any problems with GPS signals reception in Rio?

I have a Garmin nuvi 200w with Brazil map loaded, but the problem is the satellite signals is nonexistent.

A taxi driver has another brand of GPS and he does not have problems.

Anybody experiences this?

[Jan 156]

Does anybody have any problems with GPS signals reception in Rio?

I have a Garmin nuvi 200w with Brazil map loaded, but the problem is the satellite signals is nonexistent.

A taxi driver has another brand of GPS and he does not have problems.

Anybody experiences this?Just download a good offline map that works from GPS alone. I've had no problems. PM if you've still got a problem.

[Java Man]

Does anybody have any problems with GPS signals reception in Rio? I have a Garmin nuvi 200w with Brazil map loaded, but the problem is the satellite signals is nonexistent.I have a Garmin Nuvi 3590LMT, it takes sometime for it to lock onto the satellites, but works well in Rio. It has Garmin's Rio CityXplorer and South America 2013 map. If you're downtown, the tall buildings will obscure the signal. Some of those Brazilian GPS units also receive TV signals. They cost around $150USD+ Good site for free Garmin maps of the world is
http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/

[Mr Enternational]

Does anybody have any problems with GPS signals reception in Rio?

I have a Garmin nuvi 200w with Brazil map loaded, but the problem is the satellite signals is nonexistent.

A taxi driver has another brand of GPS and he does not have problems.

Anybody experiences this?I always use google maps on my cell phone. No maps to load and no extra devices to carry around.

[Jan 156]

I always use google maps on my cell phone. No maps to load and no extra devices to carry around.Google is OK if you have wifi or a cheap download plan. But I still find it slow compared with a good offline GPS app. You can get one for the whole of Brasil for pennies and it is more accurate than Googlemaps. Googlemaps is helpful for streetview, but it has taken me to the wrong location several times in Brasil. Things like street numbers in a long street or just not recognising a place name. But whatever works for you. http://www.skobbler.co.uk/apps/navigation

[Bravo]

If a brazilian applies and gets a Tourist Visa to America, how long do they have before they have to travel? I think as Americans we must travel to brasil within two weeks of us receiving a Brasilian visa, so I wonder if it is the same for them.

[Exec Talent]

If a brazilian applies and gets a Tourist Visa to America, how long do they have before they have to travel? I think as Americans we must travel to brasil within two weeks of us receiving a Brasilian visa, so I wonder if it is the same for them.Proof of travel is not required. Almost all applications are being approved.

[Papi Muy Rico]

Where or from who can I get these food stuff:

Premium quality beef franks for hotdogs or beef franks of acceptable quality, similar or comparable to American counterparts.

Quality beef patties for hamburgers, or beef patties of acceptable quality, similar or comparable to American counterparts.

Mustard, spicy mustard, relish of good quality.

Hot dog and hamburger buns of good quality.

Maybe suggestion on Brazilian brands of good quality.

All information greatly appreciated.

[Manny51]

Hope this is an appropriate place to post this question.

I will be in Rio next week and would like to see if I can buy World Cup tickets while I am there. I want to buy tickets for the Portugal vs USA match in Manaus. I missed the third and final FIFA ticket sale a week ago, but I have a feeling that my unfamiliarity would have left me empty handed anyway.

Anyone know a good reliable source of tickets in Rio? If I can get tickets, I'll buy an air ticket to come back to Brazil during the game.

Thanks in advance!

[Manny51]

Only a few more days till I am in Rio! Tee hee! (My best Al Bundy!)

Just a couple of quick general questions:

1. Do I really have to carry my passport everywhere? I read in a general travel book, I forgot which one, that you can get away with a photocopy of the face page if it is "certified." I assume that that is some kind of notarization and stamp. Is this true? And if so, where do I get it done? At a cambio? I would really prefer not to let some cop innocently ask for my passport and refuse to give it back.

2. I read somewhere that May 1 is a brazilian Labor Day. Do the termas and massage parlors / prives close? What are my options if so?

3. Also wanted to get an idea of how many people actually swim in the water. I like to surf (strictly small time) , but don't want to get sick in the water. I remember reading some really nasty posts in the recent past about sewage. Just how bad is it?

Thanks in advance!

[Sperto]

Only a few more days till I am in Rio! Tee hee! (My best Al Bundy!)

Just a couple of quick general questions:

1. Do I really have to carry my passport everywhere? I read in a general travel book, I forgot which one, that you can get away with a photocopy of the face page if it is "certified." I assume that that is some kind of notarization and stamp. Is this true? And if so, where do I get it done? At a cambio? I would really prefer not to let some cop innocently ask for my passport and refuse to give it back.

2. I read somewhere that May 1 is a brazilian Labor Day. Do the termas and massage parlors / prives close? What are my options if so?

3. Also wanted to get an idea of how many people actually swim in the water. I like to surf (strictly small time) , but don't want to get sick in the water. I remember reading some really nasty posts in the recent past about sewage. Just how bad is it?

Thanks in advance!
1. You are obliged to always carry some ID. Get a copy of your passport certified at a cartório.
2. Yes. VM.
3. I always swim in the water and never got sick, so does millions of other people as well. Some days the water is cleaner and other days it's not as clean.

[Mr Enternational]

Also wanted to get an idea of how many people actually swim in the water. I like to surf (strictly small time) , but don't want to get sick in the water. I remember reading some really nasty posts in the recent past about sewage. Just how bad is it?The ocean is your least worry. You should be more worried about the food. You will probably get traveler's diarrhea since you aren't used to the bacteria. So bring some lactobacilin or some probiotc.

[Mangera]

Only a few more days till I am in Rio! Tee hee! (My best Al Bundy!)

Just a couple of quick general questions:

1. Do I really have to carry my passport everywhere? I read in a general travel book, I forgot which one, that you can get away with a photocopy of the face page if it is "certified." I assume that that is some kind of notarization and stamp. Is this true? And if so, where do I get it done? At a cambio? I would really prefer not to let some cop innocently ask for my passport and refuse to give it back.

2. I read somewhere that May 1 is a brazilian Labor Day. Do the termas and massage parlors / prives close? What are my options if so?

3. Also wanted to get an idea of how many people actually swim in the water. I like to surf (strictly small time) , but don't want to get sick in the water. I remember reading some really nasty posts in the recent past about sewage. Just how bad is it?

Thanks in advance!Just to add a couple more points to sperto's response. Aside from a copy of your passport, I would also make a copy of your visa showing the dates to carry along with your passport copy. As for going for a swim, I have heard from my brazilian friends that the water on the Copa side is actually a bit cleaner than the Ipanema side. The Ipanema side has the sewer outlet closer. However, Ipanema has nice eye candy :)

[RockTimes]

Just to add a couple more points to sperto's response. Aside from a copy of your passport, I would also make a copy of your visa showing the dates to carry along with your passport copy. As for going for a swim, I have heard from my brazilian friends that the water on the Copa side is actually a bit cleaner than the Ipanema side. The Ipanema side has the sewer outlet closer. However, Ipanema has nice eye candy :)1. When you arrive, they stamp your passport, also there is a arrival / departure card you get on the plane, they stamp that one too. And when you leave, they take back the arrival card and stamp your passport on the way out. I leave my passport in hotel in a safe box. Copy the front one with the passport number and leave in a hidden place in the room. I never have cop asking for passport. I do carry the arrival card and a business card of my hotel.

2. My guess is they close. Call first to confirm.

3. Water in Copa and Ipanema are polluted. The water condition is listed daily on the local newspaper. Your best shot is farther South called Barra de Tijuca. Miles and miles of beach. But be careful at night. And you must watch for your property left on the beach. Better go in groups. Take turn to surf.

[Trashy111]

I'm going to visit Rio this August.

Is there any up-to-date guide I can use?

[Mr Enternational]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/10793257/Air-France-executive-and-wife-ran-2m-prostitution-ring-through-airline.html

[FuckAfMedDig]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/10793257/Air-France-executive-and-wife-ran-2m-prostitution-ring-through-airline.htmlDamn they beat me to it! Nah thats cray

[Bravo]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/10793257/Air-France-executive-and-wife-ran-2m-prostitution-ring-through-airline.htmlI highly doubt that all the females were forced into prostitution, more than likely, they were already hoes and went to Paris in search of the euro. The woman that "escaped" was probably just pissed that the pimps were charging so much but she was making so little!

On this note, I met a guy from Queens who used to get girls from Help 3 month working visas to the states. Once in NY, he would have them dance in his strip clubs in LIC. The problem was that once the girls got to the states and saw how much money they could make from stripping, they didn't want to go back to Rio once their visa was up.

[Manny51]

OK everyone, just got back from a 8 days in brazil! This won't be a classic 'field report, ' which is why I am posting it in the 'general info' section and not the 'reports' section. Take it as travelog, which is how it is intended. I speak as if to a newbie, like if I could go in the DeLorean and talk to the me of 10 days ago.

First of all, the venues. I would echo the observations that most other punters have made. The attractiveness of the women does not vary much from club to club, regardless of any cost differences. Some, but not all of the women have the 'bunda' look, meaning the normal sized legs tapering upward to a disproportionately large and round butt. Of course, there were those who were just fat. It is the sudden change in size from the leg to the butt that's the key. 4 x 4 (which I will hereafter refer to as 44) was the most packed. I was able to speak to some of the Brazilian guys hanging out, and they all told me, without exception, that 44 was THE place to be, the most highly regarded club. I started asking about other places- Centaurus? Sure that is a high end place, but nobody really goes there. Its a rip off. MV30? Monte Carlo? Never heard of them. So there you go.

44 was smaller than I imagined. Packed with people on a Friday night, but not the once in a lifetime circus that it has been hyped up to be. No biker chicks, firebreathers, or goth chicks with black fingernails. I was imagining the Cantina from Star Wars, but it was just typical chicas. Imagine an FKK with only the bar and you get the idea. I also checked out Monte Carlo on a Saturday, which was not appreciably nicer, just smaller. Interestingly, MC (9/8/20) ends up being only marginally more expensive than 4 x 4 (5/26). I thought that the girls were prettier at 4 x 4, and with more variety. So for those on a limited schedule, if you can only go to one place. 4 x 4 is it. Whatever your tastes are, you will find it there. Oh and also, for future reference, the centro termas are closed on May 1, their Labor day. I physically stopped by several of the venues to find them all shuttered.

Incidentally, T22 is a little dive bar across the street from MC. I took one look out of curiousity and bailed in about 10 seconds. Don't even bother. As for Bel Prazer, keep in mind that it is a massage parlor, and a small one at that. That means that there are no beds, just a real massage table: hard, narrow, and high. Everyone was very friendly, and pretty enough, but not quite 44 standards. For local office workers cutting out from work, I can understand the appeal. But tourists shouldn't bother. Just go for the Termas.

I was expecting Balcony bar to be at the top of some old seedy building. But actually it is a nice beachside bar and restaurant, the type you see in South Beach spilling into the sidewalk. In the daytime, it looks, and is, completely respectable. But for whatever reason, at midnight, tons of hookers way past their due date congregate there. I don't think its worth your time, especially at the prices that others are posting. I stopped by on a Saturday.

Getting back to the women, I found myself immediately comparing them to Colombian women in my head. Brazil has a very heterogeneous population, with women ranging from African heritage, latino looking, streaked tanned hair Portugese, and even redhead. You can see some absolutely stunning, Cosmopolitan Magazine women at the clubs and beaches, but that quality does not translate to the termas. Colombian women, on the other hand, have a more singular, 'latin' appearance and a more homogeneous population. I found the drop in looks from the Brazilian general population to the termas to be steep. Colombian women are more predictable in appearance, with a smaller standard deviation and thus, have beauty standards that translate better into the puta population. I am sure that veterans like Sperto and those living in Brazil can meet regular women and establish longer term relationships with true hotties. But I thought that women in the Termas were a little disappointing in looks. However, Brazilian women do make up for a lot of it by being better in the sack. Those rumors are all true!

So overall, based on my admittedly short experience, I would give Brazil a B+ in terms of punting destinations. For me, it was good, but not great. That being said, let me tell you why Rio de Janeiro jumps to an 'A' grade in the overall category. It can be summed up in one word: Lapa.

Lapa is one of the primary nightlife districts. It used to be the red light district in the early 20th century, and then fell into dilapidation. Then, about 10 years ago, the samba musician community began moving back in, setting up impromptu, bohemian style nightclubs. Now it is totally off the hook. The main draws are the live samba clubs. Of course, as the area has grown, there are some more generic clubs playing pop and rock and roll, but the heart of the place is traditional music. Brazil is South American, but it is very different from its Spanish speaking counterparts. There is no salsa here my friend. Samba is a mix of acoustic guitars and heavy percussion, and they sing in portugese. Live samba is infectious. I went to a samba club called 'Carioca da Gema' four nights in a row. That place is the bomb. At most of the clubs in Lapa, people are spilling into the street. But it is not pretentious in the way that jet-set Hollywood clubs are. There is no velvet rope, and everyone is welcome. The closest thing that I can think of for comparison for vibe and energy is New Orleans, my favorite nightlife town. Imagine a fusion of Frenchman and Bourbon St and you'll get the idea. Lots of gorgeous women, most wearing daisy dukes. On the weekends, there are tons of food and bar stands selling good and cheap food and booze all night long. All of it cleanly prepared. I did not get sick. If you just want to hang outside and take it all in, Afro-brazillian rumba style music is being played impromptu outdoors. If I lived in Rio I would be there every weekend. I remember choosing to stay in Lapa instead of checking out Centaurus on Saturday night. Going to a Terma seemed like a waste of time. Seriously.

So in summary, if you go to Rio seeking punting nirvana, you will be disappointed. From what I understand, those days have past. But if you visit Rio / Brazil as a fun and adventure region with decent punting easily available, you'll have a much better time.

Just a couple of odds and ends. I spoke to the Federal police at Customs and immigration. You do NOT need to carry your actual passport around. A photocopy is just fine, and it doesn't need to be stamped / certified. There is also a small departure card document that they give you at customs when you arrive. You must keep this form and return it when you leave. Losing it results in a fine of over $100, not to mention a whole lot of hassle. You must also carry a copy of this with you. Don't carry around the original. It is thin and fragile and won't last one night in your pocket.

And in regards to safety, I personally thought that the 'danger' in Rio was way way overblown. I read the postings, scoured the internet, saw the youtube clips. I started out with the money belt, the shoe money, the whole nine yards. But after a while, I started to feel like a paranoid idiot. I felt safe everywhere at all times. I took the metro until it closed at midnight. I walked from Centro to Lapa at night. Even Centro at night seemed ok, more abandoned than unsafe. Why would criminals seeking to rob people hang out there? There are no people to rob. That being said, I did not go north of Vargas Ave, nor did I go anywhere near a favela or VM. Think of Rio as Manhattan. Be aware of your surroundings, don't dress or act like a rich asshole, and walk with a purpose.

Yes, Rio is getting more expensive, but it seems more expensive than it is because the two things we are most interested in are getting the price hikes the worst: hotels and putas. Most tourists stay in Ipanema, which I also highly recommend. Compared to Copa, Ipanema is more intimate, and probably a little safer. Ipanema has smaller tree-lined blocks, with more quaint shops, restaurants and bars. The beach, which is shorter than in Copa, is flood-lit. You can see clearly to the breaking water, so I can imagine people swimming at night. Copa has bigger blocks, many lined by barren locked up store fronts. The thing about Ipanema is that it is a very small area. There just aren't enough hotels there, so prices go up. A decent hotel starts at $150. As for the prices of the Termas, well, I can't speak intelligently about why those prices are going up, but they are. Food and booze, though, are cheap. Public transportation, and even the prices of taxis (relative to other big cities) is also cheap. A subway token costs 3. 2 Reals, which is about 1. 50 cents. And a late night plate of barbecued skewered carne asada with all the fixings was about $4. 25.

And by the way, if you ever need some advice and want to speak to a knowledgeable expat in American English, there is a small all-purpose tourist shop next to Monte Carlo called 'Blame it on Rio. ' I got wind of it because one member posted them as a good place to exchange dollars in Copa, and he was right. They gave me 2. 2 Reals to the dollar, which is just a hair below the financial exchange rate of 2. 24. You can get that rate in Centro, but everywhere else in Copa was 2. 1. The proprieter there is a guy named Bobby. He is very cool and can answer all of your questions. There is an internet terminal there, and laundry facilities. It is also a magnet for American visitors, and I ended up chatting with random people there several times.

Rio and Brazil are a must go. Just don't let your imagination run away with you and you'll have a great time. Just my dos pesos. Excuse me, Reals.

[Java Man]

there is a small all-purpose tourist shop next to Monte Carlo called 'Blame it on Rio.Nice report Manny. Slight correction, lest some newbies get lost and confused: Blame it on Rio is located on Rua Xavier da Silveira, 15 B. Monte Carlo is on Hilário Gouvêa, 19, both in Copa. MC is between the Hotel Oceano Copacabana and an apartment building. MC is blocks from Blame it on Rio. And yes, Bobby is a cool guy. I rented from him my first few trips to Rio.
Dive bar T22 is not across from MC. Its across the street from the park near MC, near the corner of Praca Serzedelo Correa and Siqueiria Campos, next to Boteco Cevada, a tavern. Yes, it's a dive, but good for a few beers.

[Manny51]

Thanks for the correction. When I last stopped by there on Sunday, I could have sworn it looked like I was on the Monte Carlo street! But when I look at the maps again, that was a stupid mistake. Must have been too many beers!

Yes,"Blame it on Rio" is just down the street from the first Copa subway stop. Monte Carlo, I think was down the street from the second subway stop. And the bus to Cristos Redeemer is at the last subway stop.

BTW, for any newbies going to the area soon, I can also tell you about Foz Iguazu and the waterfalls. Iguazu requires some some tips in advance to see efficiently. Feel free to PM me with questions.

[Manny51]

I've been telling this bloke the same thing repeatedly.

The only caveat I would issue is not to have your decision hinge entirely on other mongers' pictures of the tutes. I mean, before my first Rio trip I felt like I was seeing so many "ugly pics" that I really had no desire to go to Brazil. Well, a buddy was pleading with me to go. Screaming even LOL! Well, he was right. He understood my tastes perfectly and what I like, and he knew I would consistently find exactly what I want in Brazil. And I learned a valuable lesson too. Never, ever let the pictures other members take 100 per cent sway your decision whether to go or not to go to any particular destination. It should be a factor, but not the predominate one. There's so much more to consider. I would have never gone to Brazil the first time had I followed my own instincts. And boy am I glad there was an "intervention"!

So that said, one should just keep all of this in mind. Then go fish or cut bait! In PL's case (and others like him) he's so concerned about whether or not the women will be "white enough" that I think he should just stick with Germany and the FKKs. I love those too, but only second to Brazil! Also, the Brazil sex scene is going through a bit of transition right now, so it may not be the best time for a noob to go.Responding to this post a bit late, but I agree with all. I am often dumbfounded by the pictures that people post in thus forum (not necessarily Brazil) , calling this girl a hot spinner and such. I try to be polite and not comment, but holy crap, if you can't get a girl that looks like that in the states, then something is wrong with you. The only way to know if the women in a country appeal to you is to go.

By the way, what did you mean by "the Brazil sex scene is going through a bit of transition right now, so it may not be the best time for a noob to go." Please explain.

[The Cane]

responding to this post a bit late, but i agree with all. i am often dumbfounded by the pictures that people post in thus forum (not necessarily brazil) , calling this girl a hot spinner and such. i try to be polite and not comment, but holy crap, if you can't get a girl that looks like that in the states, then something is wrong with you. the only way to know if the women in a country appeal to you is to go.

by the way, what did you mean by "the brazil sex scene is going through a bit of transition right now, so it may not be the best time for a noob to go." please explain.well, i think you touched on it in bits and pieces of your report. prices are up. for everything it seems. plus places have closed. help shutting down was a huge blow to the scene. i admit that, even if i was never a help fan. it was well past its prime by the time i started going down. l'uomo closed. rio antigo closed. termas aeroporto closed. some of the privees that people liked are gone. places aren't open on sundays anymore. although i haven't heard of any raids lately, there were some raids that got places like centaurus and 4x4 shut down for periods of time. i think that will happen again.

i think plenty of us are surprised that balcony is still open. i'll bet money that it won't be by the time the olympics roll around, if not much, much sooner than that. it just seems that on the heels of the demise of helpee the whole "tone" began to change. i knew it would happen too as soon as brazil was awarded with the world cup and the olympic games! now they want to put on a "good face" for the rest of world. show they've "arrived".

i sincerely believe that more stringent measures and attacks against mongerdom in brazil are coming. at the same time, i cannot and will not ever give up on the marvelous city! we're just going through a phase right now. a phase that will begin to reverse itself after this damned world cup and the games are over! and the economic crash that is sure to ensue afterwards. oh you can bet your bottom dollar there will be an "economic adjustment"! we need that adjustment too to help things get back to "normal".

with good fortune i hope to get to brazil again. but when i do, i want things to be trending my way. the monger's way! i'm glad you enjoyed your first trip, even if you were a bit limited in where you went and what you saw. may that b+ turn into an a+ the next time! i know my first trip was an a++! man i wore myself out so damn bad from butt fucking all those hot brazilian girls that i had to take a whole damn week off of work when i got back home i was so damn run down hahaha!

[Papi Muy Rico]

well, i think you touched on it in bits and pieces of your report. prices are up. for everything it seems. plus places have closed. help shutting down was a huge blow to the scene. i admit that, even if i was never a help fan. it was well past its prime by the time i started going down. l'uomo closed. rio antigo closed. termas aeroporto closed. some of the privees that people liked are gone. places aren't open on sundays anymore. although i haven't heard of any raids lately, there were some raids that got places like centaurus and 4x4 shut down for periods of time. i think that will happen again.

i think plenty of us are surprised that balcony is still open. i'll bet money that it won't be by the time the olympics roll around, if not much, much sooner than that. it just seems that on the heels of the demise of helpee the whole "tone" began to change. i knew it would happen too as soon as brazil was awarded with the world cup and the olympic games! now they want to put on a "good face" for the rest of world. show they've "arrived".

i sincerely believe that more stringent measures and attacks against mongerdom in brazil are coming. at the same time, i cannot and will not ever give up on the marvelous city! we're just going through a phase right now. a phase that will begin to reverse itself after this damned world cup and the games are over! and the economic crash that is sure to ensue afterwards. oh you can bet your bottom dollar there will be an "economic adjustment"! we need that adjustment too to help things get back to "normal".

with good fortune i hope to get to brazil again. but when i do, i want things to be trending my way. the monger's way! i'm glad you enjoyed your first trip, even if you were a bit limited in where you went and what you saw. may that b+ turn into an a+ the next time! i know my first trip was an a++! man i wore myself out so damn bad from butt fucking all those hot brazilian girls that i had to take a whole damn week off of work when i got back home i was so damn run down hahaha!

i agree with your analysis 110%. help closing was devastating. at the beginning i didn't care because, as you, i wasn't a big fan and thought that rio had a lot more to offer. however, after help my rio experience was never the same, no other mongering place has the quantity, quality, diversity of babes that help offered. that balcony shithole is not even 10% of was the help experience was, and 2-3 times the help prices in drinks.

like you, i hope it comes back to normal some day.

[AltoBomGosto]

I agree with your analysis 110. Help closing was devastating. At the beginning I didn't care because, as you, I wasn't a big fan and thought that Rio had a lot more to offer. However, after Help my Rio experience was never the same, No other mongering place has the quantity, quality, diversity of babes that Help offered. That Balcony shithole is not even 10% of was the Help experience was, and 2-3 times the Help prices in drinks.

Like you, I hope it comes back to normal some day.Wait untill the FIFA WC and the Olimpics are over.

[Sperto]

Don't romanticize how great Help was. I was never any Help fan but I went there many times anyway. Help didn't close during it's heydays, which were in the nineties. The final years when Help were open it had gone downhill. Less girls, ridiculous prices and not impressive quality on the girls. After Help closed, that part of Copacabana became safer with less thieves, streetkids, drugdealers and scumbags. Of course it also became more boring. Even I missed the action on the outside of Help.

After the brazilian economy improved people got better off. Lots of poor people became the new middle class. This means less poor women who becomes prostitutes. This doesn't only affects the quantity but also the quality. There are still more than enough privées in Rio, but the quality of the girls has gone down. More fatties with giant bundas de gelatina.

[Manny51]

That makes a lot of sense. The economy, and generally people's lives, got better, so punting declined. I have been reading in "The Economist" about the BRIC countries being on the rise for years now. Brazilians are a fun, good natured people, so I wish them well.

I just assumed that Help closed because it was shut down by the police. It never occurred to me that its business model may have became obsolete, and it just closed.

[Bravo]

I have to disagree. I don't think the quantity of girls dwindled because of an economic boom for brasilians. (Shit, those girls were still living 5 deep in a 1 bedroom apartment! Middle class explosion had nothing to do with GDPs) The numbers dwindled because the girls started going to Europe in chase of the euros.

[Mr Enternational]

I have to disagree. I don't think the quantity of girls dwindled because of an economic boom for brasilians. (Shit, those girls were still living 5 deep in a 1 bedroom apartment! Middle class explosion had nothing to do with GDPs) The numbers dwindled because the girls started going to Europe in chase of the euros.Well the rich got richer. Who are the people you knew to be poor before, but are now a member of the middle class? Brazil don't work that way.

[Manny51]

Well the rich got richer. Who are the people you knew to be poor before, but are now a member of the middle class? Brazil don't work that way.It depends on the country. Countries in the lower half of economic development, in poverty, usually see substantial growth of the poor upwards to the middle class. But countries that are already near the middle, who are rising to the upper ranks, who already have the infrastructure for finance and big business, generally have the rich just get richer, with only some "trickle down" wealth in the form of better civil services via taxation.

Interesting, but I never thought of Brazil as a country where girls would travel to work. The developed western world speaks either English or Spanish. Brazilian portugese is so different, that I would think they would have a hard time working and living abroad, except maybe obviously Portugal. They would need an organized "brothel" type system, like an FKK in Germany. Although I have not been to many, I have never seen a brazilian girl in an FKK.

Off topic, I will watch with great interest how Brazil deals with the world cup, and the time afterword. From what I saw, I don't think that Rio has the hotel volume or the infrastructure to handle the masses. I saw construction crews still building highways and bridges, with the games only one month away! I saw a CNN report that said that the Sao Paolo fresh water reserve is just about empty. How are hotel guests going to like turning on the shower and getting nothing? Brazil is investing a lot of money into these games. The only way they get some of it back is with tourists spending money. Apparently, the majority of tickets have been sold to Brazilians. But if the rest of the world is staying home on watching it on TV, that doesn't bring in any money.

[Sperto]

Well the rich got richer. Who are the people you knew to be poor before, but are now a member of the middle class? Brazil don't work that way.37 million "poor brazilians" became middle class.
http://www.sae.gov.br/site/?p=17665
I find it quite obvious that the big majority have better conditions now than before. Just see how they spend money.

[The Cane]

Interesting, but I never thought of Brazil as a country where girls would travel to work. The developed western world speaks either English or Spanish. Brazilian portugese is so different, that I would think they would have a hard time working and living abroad, except maybe obviously Portugal. They would need an organized "brothel" type system, like an FKK in Germany. Although I have not been to many, I have never seen a brazilian girl in an FKK.

Off topic, I will watch with great interest how Brazil deals with the world cup, and the time afterword. From what I saw, I don't think that Rio has the hotel volume or the infrastructure to handle the masses. I saw construction crews still building highways and bridges, with the games only one month away! I saw a CNN report that said that the Sao Paolo fresh water reserve is just about empty. How are hotel guests going to like turning on the shower and getting nothing? Brazil is investing a lot of money into these games. The only way they get some of it back is with tourists spending money. Apparently, the majority of tickets have been sold to Brazilians. But if the rest of the world is staying home on watching it on TV, that doesn't bring in any money.Spain is a popular place for Brazilian girls to go for work. The languages are similar enough that Brazilian girls will often ask me to speak to them in Spanish rather than in English because they can understand me better. Also, Spain has a large, well-developed sex industry that offers many venue options for a garota de programa to work and earn money. I have met more than a few Brazilian girls working in Spain. Often times they are among the small handful in any particular setting who will offer anal.

I too will be watching the World Cup with great interest. I'm anticipating that there will be a lot of organized protests. We should not forget that this isn't the first time that Brazil has hosted the World Cup though. Brazil hosted the Cup in 1950. But, that was a very different time then with very different expectations. A different Brazil and a different world. No 24/7 international TV all over the place and the common man jumping on airplanes and flying around the world as spectators. Not like what we have today.

By the way, they weren't ready in 1950 either! I just watched a documentary last night and you could see people cheering away in a clearly unfinished Maracana Stadium. If there are any Brazilian tutes working overseas, I imagine that a hell of a lot of them will be coming back home to cheer on the home team and get paid! I'm just hoping that Brazil doesn't embarrass itself the way India did with the 2010 Commonwealth Games that were held in Delhi.

[Manny51]

Spain is a popular place for Brazilian girls to go for work. The languages are similar enough that Brazilian girls will often ask me to speak to them in Spanish rather than in English because they can understand me better. Also, Spain has a large, well-developed sex industry that offers many venue options for a garota de programa to work and earn money. I have met more than a few Brazilian girls working in Spain. Often times they are among the small handful in any particular setting who will offer anal.Spain, huh? Darned. I have another vacation in a few months. I was debating between Spain OR Eastern Europe (Prague, Budapest, Vienna) and I decided on Eastern Europe. Maybe I chose wrong.

I am sure that they do well there. The comfort level that Brazillian women have with anal is very uncommon in other parts of the world.

[Eric Cartman]

After the brazilian economy improved people got better off. Lots of poor people became the new middle class. This means less poor women who becomes prostitutes. This doesn't only affects the quantity but also the quality. There are still more than enough privées in Rio, but the quality of the girls has gone down. More fatties with giant bundas de gelatina.Sperto is correct, based on my observations having visited several years running before moving here 4 years ago. Also the economic boom meant that the GDPs were priced out of Zona Sul and had to start living (and coming) from way farther beyond. They used to live 2-3-4 in apartments in Copa, Botafogo, etc. This stopped being the norm as housing prices skyrocketed in Zona Sul. And the girls started living / coming from way father away. Past Barra (Jacarepagua and way beyond). Nova Igauzu and way beyond. The Baixada. Realengo / Bangu. Never used to see a lot of that. Now it's the norm.

The hotter girls who still want to work moved to SP to chase the money. Rio's GDP scene got hit particularly hard, IMHO.

[Papi Muy Rico]

Don't romanticize how great Help was. I was never any Help fan but I went there many times anyway. Help didn't close during it's heydays, which were in the nineties. The final years when Help were open it had gone downhill. Less girls, ridiculous prices and not impressive quality on the girls. After Help closed, that part of Copacabana became safer with less thieves, streetkids, drugdealers and scumbags. Of course it also became more boring. Even I missed the action on the outside of Help.

After the brazilian economy improved people got better off. Lots of poor people became the new middle class. This means less poor women who becomes prostitutes. This doesn't only affects the quantity but also the quality. There are still more than enough prives in Rio, but the quality of the girls has gone down. More fatties with giant bundas de gelatina.Maybe during the last few years Help wasn't the same, but compared with what you have now (Balcony) looks like a million bucks!

[The Cane]

Another dies working on "Pharaoh's" unfinished stadiums:

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/05/08/brazilian-worker-electrocuted-at-site-world-cup-stadium-construction/

[SavePros321]

ioc chiefs 'make secret plea' to use london 2012 venues as rio 2016 olympic games fall behind schedule

so worried are olympic organisers by how far behind schedule the 2016 rio games has fallen, london has reportedly been asked, in secret, if it could host the event at the last minute. according to the london evening standard, an informal approach has been made by ioc chiefs to ascertain whether london's 2012 olympic venues could be brought back into use.

the build-up to the rio games has been labelled a shambles, with every venue badly behind schedule, spiralling costs and accusations of negligence. ioc vice-president john coates has already called brazil's preparations "the worst i've experienced", with just two years to go and a football world cup to host in between.

an "unprecedented" special task force has been set up to try and speed up preparations but the situation on the ground is said to be "critical".

full article:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/10819420/ioc-chiefs-make-secret-plea-to-use-london-2012-venues-as-rio-2016-olympic-games-fall-behind-schedule.html

[Manny51]

IOC chiefs 'make secret plea' to use London 2012 venues as Rio 2016 Olympic Games fall behind schedule

So worried are Olympic organisers by how far behind schedule the 2016 Rio Games has fallen, London has reportedly been asked, in secret, if it could host the event at the last minute. According to the London Evening Standard, an informal approach has been made by IOC chiefs to ascertain whether London's 2012 Olympic venues could be brought back into use.

Full Article:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/10819420/IOC-chiefs-make-secret-plea-to-use-London-2012-venues-as-Rio-2016-Olympic-Games-fall-behind-schedule.htmlGreat article. Brazil is only 10% ready at this point? Wow. I guess the pleas is not so secret anymore. I bet they would do it if olympic village didn't have to be evacuated.

[Mangera]

ioc chiefs 'make secret plea' to use london 2012 venues as rio 2016 olympic games fall behind schedule

so worried are olympic organisers by how far behind schedule the 2016 rio games has fallen, london has reportedly been asked, in secret, if it could host the event at the last minute. according to the london evening standard, an informal approach has been made by ioc chiefs to ascertain whether london's 2012 olympic venues could be brought back into use.

the build-up to the rio games has been labelled a shambles, with every venue badly behind schedule, spiralling costs and accusations of negligence. ioc vice-president john coates has already called brazil's preparations "the worst i've experienced", with just two years to go and a football world cup to host in between.

an "unprecedented" special task force has been set up to try and speed up preparations but the situation on the ground is said to be "critical".

full article:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/10819420/ioc-chiefs-make-secret-plea-to-use-london-2012-venues-as-rio-2016-olympic-games-fall-behind-schedule.htmlif true, my hunch would be that real estate prices begin to plunge in rio after that anouncement. the economy begins to take a dive. i don't wish for this to happen, just speculating. thats all.

[The Cane]

The IOC has denied the story. But of course! What else are they going to say? They did confirm that so far progress on the preparations for the 2016 Olympics are "the worst ever seen". Well, let's hope that in the end the Brazilian Games somehow live up to all the hype in the advertising spot (see link). We shall see. That is, if they don't move the Games to London!

http://www.sportsworldnews.com/articles/13219/20140510/olympics-2016-ioc-denies-london-will-replace-rio-de-janeiro-brazil-as-host-city-video.htm

They have to get the World Cup right first. Why somebody thought this country could handle both the World Cup and the Olympics one after the other is beyond me! They don't need these super sporting spectacles. What they need are roads, improved mass transit, schools, hospitals, affordable housing, and jobs. That's what they need. Among other things. I hope the Brazilian people spill out into the streets en masse in protest!

[Bravo]

rio admits that it is not going to be able to clean up guanabara bay in time for the olympics! not sure what that will mean for all the [CodeWord118] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord118) that were slated to take place, i wonder where they will move them to.

http://news.yahoo.com/mayor-rio-fail-keep-pledge-clean-bay-202539530.html

[Bravo]

I met up with a former Rio vet for dinner last night and we were talking about the upcoming World Cup. I mentioned that a number of my friends had asked me if I was going to Rio for the WC and they expressed surprised when I told them "Not in a million years!" My buddy said to me "I know Brazil is a favorite to win the World Cup, but then again, they are a favorite to win every time! Imagine the chaos and protests that will happen if Brazil gets bounced early!! They are already protesting about how much money brasil is wasting! How much more angry will the Brasilians be, if the team loses early!" Rio will be a fucking mess!!

[PatmarBeleza1]

Brazil and Rio have already lost the WC in the way that matters; economically by an serious observer.


I met up with a former Rio vet for dinner last night and we were talking about the upcoming World Cup. I mentioned that a number of my friends had asked me if I was going to Rio for the WC and they expressed surprised when I told them "Not in a million years!" My buddy said to me "I know Brazil is a favorite to win the World Cup, but then again, they are a favorite to win every time! Imagine the chaos and protests that will happen if Brazil gets bounced early!! They are already protesting about how much money brasil is wasting! How much more angry will the Brasilians be, if the team loses early!" Rio will be a fucking mess!!

[PatmarBeleza1]

The simple fact that IOC has not quashed the rumor speaks for itself; Brazil has already lost in the way that matters; foreign investment; and mongers, who are a source of dinero for poor Brazilians, should take note and follow suit.


If true, my hunch would be that real estate prices begin to plunge in Rio after that anouncement. The economy begins to take a dive. I don't wish for this to happen, just speculating. Thats all.

[AltoBomGosto]

I met up with a former Rio vet for dinner last night and we were talking about the upcoming World Cup. I mentioned that a number of my friends had asked me if I was going to Rio for the WC and they expressed surprised when I told them "Not in a million years!" My buddy said to me "I know Brazil is a favorite to win the World Cup, but then again, they are a favorite to win every time! Imagine the chaos and protests that will happen if Brazil gets bounced early!! They are already protesting about how much money brasil is wasting! How much more angry will the Brasilians be, if the team loses early!" Rio will be a fucking mess!!

As a Brasilian I'm very happy that we won the first game and our people is celebrating the victory!

Protest were almost none here in So Paulo!

São Paulo did not became a mess !

[Bemmax50]

This is a 10 page article about the Brazilian sex culture as you travel from the Southern tip of the country to the northern end covering various cities.

Cities: Sao Paulo, Rio, Curitiba, Fortaleza, Brasilia, Florianopolis, Salvador, Recife, Vitoria, Belo Horizonte and much more; the original and complete article is here: http://www.classificados.xxx/escorts-acompanhantes-brazil-expectations-2014-and-beyond.php.

Before going into the discussion of escorts in any of the Cities in Brazil, it is important to point out how vast the country is, and how the sex culture varies as you move from the North to the South, and vice versa. Approximate population is about 200 million inhabitants as of 2014. The population is extremely diverse by the admixture of many races: Indians, Africans, Europeans, Asians. Not only do the sexual cultures change across the vast nation but as well as the ethnic make ups of the populations, hence the type of escorts you will find.

For the simplification of this article I will breakdown the Country in 4 different regions as pertains to sexual mongering namely; the south, the center, the north-east and finally the north. So let's journey together across from the Southern State of Rio Grande do Sul, neighboring Uruguay and Argentina to the Northern State of Amazonas, neighboring Venezuela, at about 600 nautical miles per week which will take us about 5 weeks to cross.

Escorts in the Southern region of Brazil: Porto Alegre, Curitiba, Florianopoli, Joinville, Londrina.

The southern part of the Country which include large and medium cities like Porto Alegre, in Rio Grande do Sul, Florianopolis, Joinville in Santa Catarina, Curitiba, Londrina, Maringa in Parana are populated by people of about 80% European descent (Germans, Italians, Portuguese etc). Which means if you had to go to these places for sexual reasons, then you should expect escorts of Caucasian descent. White girls as referred to in some parts of the World. Girls in this region are reserved and very educated, which is not surprising because, generally speaking, everything in the South is very well organized than in most part of the Country. As an example, you will not see much difference between Curitiba and any medium size American city in terms of organization and provision of services.

To better understand the Brazilian ethnicities or racial composition, just look at this way: The people become more racially mixed as one moves from South to the North. More like a color gradient. So if you are looking for a girl like those highly publicized in "exotic beauty" magazines, then don't go to the South, go to the Central or the North-eastern region.

In Curitiba or Porto Alegre, if you are into kink sexual stuff you might have some difficulties finding girls to play along, unless you will be offering more money than the average customer or become a regular customer for her to feel comfortable and be able to participate. Most escorts in Curitiba for instance does not do anal sex, unlike their counterparts in Sao Paulo, and Rio de Janeiro. Like I said, they are mostly reserved but passionate. They are not as outgoing as those of Rio in all perspectives.

Sex clubs (locally called Termas) are very prevalent in the Southern part than in any part of Brazil. And they are cleaner and modern. While the Southern girls maybe somewhat reserved, their respective State governments have allowed the flourish of sex clubs (which are night spots for guys to go and pick a girl). Last time, I was in Curitiba and Porto Alegre, there were a lot of such Clubs opening around 9 pm. All taxi drivers knows where they are. Taxi drivers are a little bit more trustworthy than their cousins in Rio or Sao Paulo. Most of the clubs operate a little bit different from the popular Termases of Rio de Janeiro. Different in a way such that you go there to have a drink and converse with the girls, and if you like one, you negotiate then take her out of the Club (after paying a fee to the Club) to your hotel or apartment. Some have rooms within the Club, but as not abundant as in Rio places. This is easy to understand because people there are more conserved and tend to conduct sexual activities in their private places.

Where do you really get beautiful escorts in Curitiba, Porto Alegre, Londrina, Florianopolis and other southern cities. ?

This one is a no brainer, the simple answer is the INTERNET. Yes, since the culture is more conserved than the Central and Northern part of Brazil, most girls advertise their services solely on the internet. They have basically migrated from the earlier mentioned Sex Clubs to the internet for so many reasons. Reasons which includes avoiding running into a family member if they worked in a sex club, and the flexibility of working hours (since some are really students) and more money as independent escorts.

So if you ended up in any of the Southern Cities, and you cannot find the girl that you like in any of the Sex clubs, then don't even think twice, just get to your Notebook or ipad and search under the following terms: Acompanhantes + "the city that you are in". Acompanhantes is the direct translation of Escorts or call girls and NOT prostitutes. Example: acompanhantes Porto Alegre. In Brazil they differentiate between the escorts and prostitutes just as the western Countries do. Prostitutes are referred to as "Putas " which is a very condescending term, after that is "garotas de programa" and finally the more classy group, the Acompanhantes. If you search in Google "escorts + "city you are in" for example "escorts Florianopolis" or any city, you might not get the best websites with high quality girls because most sites are 100% in Portuguese and not optimized for English terms for search engines to find.

BETTER YET, you could do the research before you even get on the plane to Brazil. You can actually call and lined up the escorts that you will see when you arrive. It is cheaper to call Brazil from overseas than within Brazil. So you can call some girls tell them when you want to see them so that they are expecting you. It will save you time and headaches when you arrive. Continued: http://www.classificados.xxx/escorts-acompanhantes-brazil-expectations-2014-and-beyond.php.

[Manny51]

As a Brasilian I'm very happy that we won the first game and our people is celebrating the victory!

Protest were almost none here in So Paulo!

So Paulo did not became a mess !OMG, can you imagine what would happen if the Brazilian team lost? Even with all the discussion about protests and corruption, that scenario just never occurred to me.

The Brasilian's love of soccer is the only thing keeping things together now. Its like a countdown. Once that hope and passion of winning the whole thing goes away, and all the sports bars are filled with foreigners cheering their teams, the whole country is going to start to break down.

Can you imagine the stress on that coach? That explains what I hear was a bogus call on the part of the referrees.

[PatmarBeleza1]

Watched the game with paulistas and some hot non pros at a bar, not in SP, but another state of Brazil. About as interested as I will ever get in the beautiful game. The beautiful fans.


As a Brasilian I'm very happy that we won the first game and our people is celebrating the victory!

Protest were almost none here in So Paulo!

So Paulo did not became a mess !

[PatmarBeleza1]

By the way, ABG, are you corinthians?


Watched the game with paulistas and some hot non pros at a bar, not in SP, but another state of Brazil. About as interested as I will ever get in the beautiful game. The beautiful fans.

[Bravo]

It seems like Brazil has done a very good job so far with the World Cup! I haven't seen a single news broadcast of violence against tourists or protestors clashing with the police. It looks like they passed the first test, so maybe they will be just as successful the Olympics!!

[Exec Talent]

It seems like Brazil has done a very good job so far with the World Cup! I haven't seen a single news broadcast of violence against tourists or protestors clashing with the police. It looks like they passed the first test, so maybe they will be just as successful the Olympics!!We all knew it would happen. It really was a matter of when.

Protester: Hey Fernando, are you coming with me to the protest?

Fernando: Well, you know I would but Brazil is playing Mexico.

Protester: Really, I have been trying to keep my mind of off football and focusing on how much I hate FIFA and how our own government has screwed us over.

Fernando: The game is at 3:00.

Protester: I'll bring the beer.

[AltoBomGosto]

By the way, ABG, are you corinthians?Yes, I'm corintiano!

[AltoBomGosto]

OMG, can you imagine what would happen if the Brazilian team lost? Even with all the discussion about protests and corruption, that scenario just never occurred to me.

The Brasilian's love of soccer is the only thing keeping things together now. Its like a countdown. Once that hope and passion of winning the whole thing goes away, and all the sports bars are filled with foreigners cheering their teams, the whole country is going to start to break down.

Can you imagine the stress on that coach? That explains what I hear was a bogus call on the part of the referrees.But Brazil is still winning!

[Albert Punter]

But Brazil is still winning!

In a way or in another (you know what I mean) Brazil will win.
This is general thinking here.

[Jan 156]

It seems like Brazil has done a very good job so far with the World Cup! I haven't seen a single news broadcast of violence against tourists or protestors clashing with the police.I agree that Brazil has done a good job. On and off the pitch so far. But there's no opportunity to think it has been perfect. There was a Black Bloc attack on English tourists in the papers last week, in a pub just yards from the official fanfest area in Anhangaba Sao Paulo.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2662942/England-fans-Sao-Paulo-attacked-fireworks-Brazilian-thugs-leaving-10-hospital.html

A couple of reporters (CNN & AP) were seriously injured in clashes on the opening Thursday night. I saw pictures of bank windows and cars being vandalised. Locals clashed with Argentina fans in Belo last week throwing bottles and police used shock grenades. There's some pictures here http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/06/16/world-cup-2014-17-pictures-of-shocking-violence-police-open-live-fire-anti-fifa-protesters_n_5498351.html of police looking like they are dressed for Star Wars. A specialist unit has been set up in Kent, England, to deal with increases in domestic violence. And some of the Metros (Rio and Sampa) have struggled (but what's new!

On the whole though it has been more peaceful and good-natured than many doomsday sayers predicted. Both police and fans have generally behaved wonderfully and I hope Brasil continues to do well in the next round.

[Sperto]

It seems like Brazil has done a very good job so far with the World Cup! I haven't seen a single news broadcast of violence against tourists or protestors clashing with the police. It looks like they passed the first test, so maybe they will be just as successful the Olympics!!
Considering all the delays of constructing footballs stadiums, airports etc I guess Brazil have done pretty well as a WC host.
There have been protests in all the Copa cities, but not that many protestors and police handled the situations quickly. At least as long as Brazil plays well the protestors will be too busy watching the games, eat churrasco and drink beer.

It's interesting to read the local papers and read about the robberies of tourists. Not surprisingly many gringos have been robbed in the Copa cities. In Salvador 25 Dutch fans got mass robbed.

[AltoBomGosto]

As a Brasilian I'm very happy that we won the first game and our people is celebrating the victory!

Protest were almost none here in So Paulo!

So Paulo did not became a mess !Confratulations to both teams, very good match!

[PatmarBeleza1]

The economic benefit to Brazilian economy of wc probably already peaked, most likely in week or two before copa started.

Buy rumor, sell news: copa do mundo

Now how to discount political risk, volatility ahead of Oct.


Considering all the delays of constructing footballs stadiums, airports etc I guess Brazil have done pretty well as a WC host.
There have been protests in all the Copa cities, but not that many protestors and police handled the situations quickly. At least as long as Brazil plays well the protestors will be too busy watching the games, eat churrasco and drink beer.

It's interesting to read the local papers and read about the robberies of tourists. Not surprisingly many gringos have been robbed in the Copa cities. In Salvador 25 Dutch fans got mass robbed.

[Albert Punter]

Yes, you are probably right.

I have read that airlines and hotels are not happy.
Many fans travelled to Brazil but businessmen and standard tourists refrain from coming during this month.
So basically airlines and hotels turnover is as usual.
However, the payback for this investment is supposed to materialize later when all these fans maybe will come back for tourism or others will come attracted by what they are learning about Brazil during World Cup period.


The economic benefit to Brazilian economy of wc probably already peaked, most likely in week or two before copa started.

Buy rumor, sell news: copa do mundo

Now how to discount political risk, volatility ahead of Oct.

[Sperto]

A site where people register where they get robbed. Covers only some of the major capitals in Brazil.

The number of registered cases on the site are very few but it stills give quite a good picture.

http://www.ondefuiroubado.com.br

[Exec Talent]

A site where people register where they get robbed. Covers only some of the major capitals in Brazil.

The number of registered cases on the site are very few but it stills give quite a good picture.

http://www.ondefuiroubado.com.brSo I am in a taxi on the way to the airport. The driver is using his GPS to identify where there is traffic. Problem is he was using it to drive into the traffic not away from it. Took forever to reach the airport and I missed my flight. He then took me back and of course gave me his card.

Thieves could use the info from this site in the same way. Where is it good to rob people? Lately in Rio I have seen it even on what used to be safe neighborhood streets. Lot of people who thought they were going to get rich from the Cup have not. After the Cup, when unskilled laborers no longer have high paying construction jobs it will get worse. Times are going to be tough for Brazilians.

[PatmarBeleza1]

The Scorpion's Sweet Venom: The Diary of a Brazilian Call Girl.

Is worth a read. SP GDP. Moema. ABG, you must be familiar with this book, blog, etc?

[Eric Cartman]

The Scorpion's Sweet Venom: The Diary of a Brazilian Call Girl.

Is worth a read. SP GDP. Moema. ABG, you must be familiar with this book, blog, etc?Pretty sure you are talking about Bruna Surfistina.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruna_Surfistinha

Worth watching the movie, to brush up on your mad language skillz.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1587828/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruna_Surfistinha_%28film%29

[Exec Talent]

Pretty sure you are talking about Bruna Surfistina.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruna_Surfistinha

Worth watching the movie, to brush up on your mad language skillz.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1587828/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruna_Surfistinha_%28film%29Not a particularly interesting read. But it won't take long, only 170 pages.

The movie is available with English subtitles.

[PatmarBeleza1]

Already watched the movie. That lead me to the book, which I read in an afternoon. It's the counterpart to Bubba Boys' Rio Guide.

Mad language skills?

Do you mean that "Vc fala portoguese muito mal. " and "Vc no intenda nada" are not compliments?

As long as I can put porta dos fundos on a HDTV while I am banging her gi quatro, eu falo perfeita! Kkkkk.


Pretty sure you are talking about Bruna Surfistina.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruna_Surfistinha

Worth watching the movie, to brush up on your mad language skillz.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1587828/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruna_Surfistinha_%28film%29

[AltoBomGosto]

Pretty sure you are talking about Bruna Surfistina.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruna_Surfistinha

Worth watching the movie, to brush up on your mad language skillz.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1587828/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruna_Surfistinha_%28film%29I used to be her costumer in the Brooklin prive. IMHO the book & movie are just fantasies, nothing even close to reality.

ABG

[PatmarBeleza1]

ABG, you wrote, "IMHO the book & movie are just fantasies, nothing even close to reality. ".

I'd be interested in knowing in as much detail, why? No rush.

I think it would be very informative and useful.

BTW, I will head to SP sooner than later, and PM you.


I used to be her costumer in the Brooklin prive. IMHO the book & movie are just fantasies, nothing even close to reality.

ABG

[The Cane]

Something very, very disturbing out of all of the positive thus far:

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/flyover-bridge-collapses-in-world-cup-host-city-of-belo-horizonte-at-least-one-dead-in-tragedy-30405501.html

This was construction that was supposed to be completed in time for the 2014 World Cup, but they didn't make it in time. And, they still haven't finished! Meanwhile, more have died along the way. Also, if you want to know about some outrageous construction-related stories in connection with World Cup preparations, take some time to investigate what's going on in Qatar right now as they prepare to be the next host country for the Cup.

[Java Man]

The economic benefit to Brazilian economy of wc probably already peaked, most likely in week or two before copa started.From TIME: "Brazil is throwing a party that, in the end, will cost it somewhere between $15 billion and $20 billion, according to a report in Sports Business Journal. FIFA keeps the revenue from TV rights, tickets, corporate sponsorships and marketing. Brazil gets to keep, in my estimate, around $500 million from tourist spending. That's not a very favorable equation. " "It will all be over in a few weeks and the Brazilian government will have a massive bill to pay both to its bondholders and to its people. The party's hangover is coming."
http://time.com/2930699/world-cup-brazil-spending/

Another article on WC costs:
"In terms of long-run development potential, of most concern to economists is the $3.6 billion in total spending on the 12 new and refurbished stadiums that are being used for the event. The overwhelming conclusion of scholarly research on the subject of stadiums and arenas is that they provide little to no long-term economic benefits. " "Before the Cup, Reuters reported that Brazil only delivered half of the projects it pledged, and many of them didn't finish in time for the Cup. Brazil is now left with half of the planned general infrastructure benefits but all of the planned costs. " "At the very least, the country is left with 12 new state-of-the-art soccer stadiums. From a development standpoint, the only thing worse than an expensive, publicly financed stadium is an empty, expensive, publicly financed stadium."
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/were-the-billions-brazil-spent-on-world-cup-stadiums-worth-it/

And they still have the costs of the Olympics to add.

[Mr Enternational]

7 to 1, hilarious!

[Ricker]

7 to 1, hilarious!I'd call it sad.

[Mangera]

I was in a house full of Brazilians today for the game. I am not brazilian, and even I felt embarassed. I felt bad to see my friends in a state of shock. God forbid they meet Argentina for third place on Saturday, and lose that one too. Heads will be bashed in Copacabana beach:).

[PatmarBeleza1]

I was in a beach bar full of hot assed Brazilian women (and a few guys too, I guess), and to their credit, after the game, they partied even harder to electronic music.

This does validate my idea that the Germanic (and perhaps Italian) Brazilians in Rio Grande do Sul are perhaps the best place in the world to be -- the only Brazilians who could cheer today's soccer result.


I was in a house full of Brazilians today for the game. I am not brazilian, and even I felt embarassed. I felt bad to see my friends in a state of shock. God forbid they meet Argentina for third place on Saturday, and lose that one too. Heads will be bashed in Copacabana beach:).

[The Cane]

There's still "work" to be done!

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mrloganrhoades/fires-looting-and-mass-robbery-have-started-in-brazil-after

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-28222612

[Mangera]

I was in a beach bar full of hot assed Brazilian women (and a few guys too, I guess), and to their credit, after the game, they partied even harder to electronic music.

This does validate my idea that the Germanic (and perhaps Italian) Brazilians in Rio Grande do Sul are perhaps the best place in the world to be -- the only Brazilians who could cheer today's soccer result.I remember being in the Rocincha watching brazil lose to France in the semi a few years back with some friends. Yes, they partied like if they had won. But yesterday's loss was different. Its not the fact that they lost, its how they lost, and at home. Its just a game:).

[Java Man]

Per Oglobo, 26 buses were burned in SP last night, (17 of which were out of circulation due to old age,) and a Ponto Frio store was ransacked.

http://g1.globo.com/sao-paulo/noticia/2014/07/sp-registra-ataques-onibus-na-capital-e-em-duas-cidades-da-regiao.html

[Exec Talent]

I was on the streets of Copa immediately after Argentina beat the Netherlands. It was pretty quiet other than a few Argentina fans celebrating in the streets. Went to dinner at a popular restaurant and was surprised by how few people were there. On TV they were rehashing the loss and repeating often the embarrassment felt by Brazilians. On the way out of Copa, traffic was light. Many times during normal times it has been much heavier.

[Bravo]

I am in a very lucky situation. I was introduced to a female on Facebook thru a mutual friend. This woman works for TAM and she has offered to buy me a ticket to fly to brasil to visit her. Now I haven't been to brasil in almost 4 years, so my visa has expired. My question to the board is this. Do I have to have a plane ticket in my hand when I go to the embassy to apply for a visa? If I remember correctly, you had to have proof that you were flying to brasil within 2 weeks in order to be granted a visa, is that still the case?

[Mr Enternational]

I am in a very lucky situation. I was introduced to a female on Facebook thru a mutual friend. This woman works for TAM and she has offered to buy me a ticket to fly to brasil to visit her. Now I haven't been to brasil in almost 4 years, so my visa has expired. My question to the board is this. Do I have to have a plane ticket in my hand when I go to the embassy to apply for a visa? If I remember correctly, you had to have proof that you were flying to brasil within 2 weeks in order to be granted a visa, is that still the case?That is no longer the case. They give you a 10 year visa and you can start using it whenever you want.

[Bravo]

That is no longer the case. They give you a 10 year visa and you can start using it whenever you want.Thanks Mr E, that is great news!! I remember before you had to show that you had purchased a ticket and you had to fly within 30 days of the visa being issued. Its nice to know that things have changed.

[The Cane]

Where in the world is Ray Whelan? Definitely not at the Copacabana Palace anymore!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/worldcup2014/article-2689454/Ray-Whelan-not-fugitive-insist-FIFA-official-ticket-hospitality-firm-MATCH.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/watch-british-fugitive-ray-whelan-3844428

[Exec Talent]

No one of color was at the World Cup either at Maracanã or Fan Fest. This included the favela rats. Though a friend of mine did get robbed of her cell phone waiting in line at Fan Fest. Police were everywhere and when a fight broke out at Fan Fest reinforcements were quick to arrive. German Chancellor, Merkel, was happier than I have ever seen her. German fans are the most respectful on the planet. While Brazilians were suggesting that Argentineans get the hell out of their city, the Germans celebrated quietly. A lot of people paid way too much to stay in a cramped crappy places. I have to admit I kind of enjoyed reminding them. Brazil really knows how to throw a house party even if the sod, lawn ornaments and driveway was not finished when you arrived. The Kiosk next to Fan Fest where I sat drinking a 6 Reais Caipirinha watching the installation of the countdown to World Cup clock still charged 6 Reais during the World Cup. I like these people.

[Poucolouco]

... My question to the board is this. Do I have to have a plane ticket in my hand when I go to the embassy to apply for a visa? If I remember correctly, you had to have proof that you were flying to brasil within 2 weeks in order to be granted a visa, is that still the case?Bravo,

I believe proof of airline reservation is still required along with your visa application, passport, photos and fees. It is best to check the requirements at the Brazilian Consulate serving your state because they are not uniform in administration.

[Spidy]

Yep! This about sums it up!

Note: This was a follow up to a post in the Rio Thread entitled "Pfffooou... What a relief!!!" That should have been placed here.‏..

[FuckAfMedDig]

No one of color was at the World Cup either at Maracan or Fan Fest. This included the favela rats. Though a friend of mine did get robbed of her cell phone waiting in line at Fan Fest. Police were everywhere and when a fight broke out at Fan Fest reinforcements were quick to arrive. German Chancellor, Merkel, was happier than I have ever seen her. German fans are the most respectful on the planet. While Brazilians were suggesting that Argentineans get the hell out of their city, the Germans celebrated quietly. A lot of people paid way too much to stay in a cramped crappy places. I have to admit I kind of enjoyed reminding them. Brazil really knows how to throw a house party even if the sod, lawn ornaments and driveway was not finished when you arrived. The Kiosk next to Fan Fest where I sat drinking a 6 Reais Caipirinha watching the installation of the countdown to World Cup clock still charged 6 Reais during the World Cup. I like these people.How pathetic that Brazil are celebrating an Argentinian loss-grow up. And worry about your own pathetic excuse of a national team and shambles of a football infrastructure in general.

[Bravo]

Bad News. I went to the Brazilian consulate in NY today to apply for a tourist Visa. I had my passport, 2 pictures and my money order for 160 bucks. It turns out, you definitely do need proof of a purchased airline ticket!! I wasted 3 hours for nothing because I have not purchased my airline ticket yet.

WORSE News. When the Brazilian consulate was in the Rockefeller Center area, you could get your visa very quickly. You dropped it off and it was ready for you to pick up the very next day. The consulate has since moved, it is near Grand central on 42nd street. Now there is a 3-5 fucking business day wait for the visa to be processed and returned to you!!

[Mr Enternational]

Wow. When I got my visa last year in Atlanta I didn't need a ticket. I think my appointment was at noon and I had to go back after 3 pm the same day to pick it up.

[Exec Talent]

Bad News. I went to the Brazilian consulate in NY today to apply for a tourist Visa. I had my passport, 2 pictures and my money order for 160 bucks. It turns out, you definitely do need proof of a purchased airline ticket!! I wasted 3 hours for nothing because I have not purchased my airline ticket yet.

WORSE News. When the Brazilian consulate was in the Rockefeller Center area, you could get your visa very quickly. You dropped it off and it was ready for you to pick up the very next day. The consulate has since moved, it is near Grand central on 42nd street. Now there is a 3-5 fucking business day wait for the visa to be processed and returned to you!!I have gotten two visas recently and did not need an itinerary for either of them. Also, they were processed in one day.

Also, even though not in their jurisdiction my visa was processed through NY and the other one was also.

[Exec Talent]

I remember specifically asking the service about the travel itinerary requirement and was told not to worry about it.

Now I see that it is clearly on their website and also that those with World Cup event tickets do not need a tourist visa.

It could be that this now being required again (it was for my first visa) because of the demand for World Cup visas and only wanting to process visas for people with an actual need to travel.

[Bravo]

Wow. When I got my visa last year in Atlanta I didn't need a ticket. I think my appointment was at noon and I had to go back after 3 pm the same day to pick it up.Another board member told me the same thing (He didn't need a ticket). I am assuming that different consulates locations have different rules. I would think there would be uniformity, but evidently, there isn't. In NY, you must have your itinerary when you submit your application for a tourist visa.

[Almotu]

Renewals might be different than 1st time applicants.

[Jan 156]

How pathetic that Brazil are celebrating an Argentinian loss-grow up. And worry about your own pathetic excuse of a national team and shambles of a football infrastructure in general.Sorry mate. If you knew anything of Brasilians and the World Cup you'd realise how way off beam that is. At the final, every Brasilian was German. They are still still talking about Germany with great warmth. Great hospitality was also offered to the Argentine fans. But the German team made a big effort to get to know Brasil before the match and it was reciprocated. Feelings between Argentina and Brasil are historic. It was quite a beautiful poster of support for Brasil that the German fans dsiplayed.

[Exec Talent]

Even before the final match there had been a number of stories about the kindness and generosity of German fans and players making the rounds among my Brazilian friends. Here are a couple examples.

http://video.xin.msn.com/watch/video/german-fans-spread-world-cup-joy-to-favela-kids/2lgx1yygf?preview=true&sf=Relevancy

http://metro.co.uk/2014/07/16/mesut-ozil-makes-incredible-gesture-after-donating-world-cup-bonus-to-brazilian-projects-4800500/

Instead of rubbing their 7-1 victory in the face of Brazilians, the interactions I heard were apologetic and started with how much they respected the Brazilian football tradition and how much they were enjoying the World Cup in Brazil. While here the German fans and players endeared themselves to Brazilians. The Argentineans. Not so much.

[Bravo]

HOLY SHIT!! I haven't been to Brasil in almost 4 years, however, I might be headed down next week for a quick trip. I called my old time connection for an apartment (I have been renting from him since 1998) and the prices for his apartments have gone thru the roof. His small 1 bedroom apartment near the Cantagalo metro stop is $125 fucking dollars a night! It used to be 40 bucks a night!! Its small as hell with no WIFI and no Cable TV! I was in shock when he told me how much he wanted!!

Can anyone from the board hook me up with a good connection? It doesn't have to be beach front, but since its winter in Brasil, I expect a much better price than 125 dollars a night for a small ass apartment with no Wifi or cable!! Post links here or feel free to PM me if you want! Thanks in advance!!

[Bravo]

I made a really stupid mistake this week that could have bit me in the ass, hopefully others can learn from it.

I went to the Brazilian Consulate on Monday to get a new Visa. I learned that I needed to have an itinerary to submit with the money order, picture and forms. I got up and left because I didn't have a ticket to show to the agent.

This morning, I called BACC (Travel agency that specializes in discount tickets for Brazil) in order to book a trip to Brazil. While the agent was looking Thur. Different airlines and dates, she casually asked me if I had my Visa. I told her that I needed to buy a plane ticket so I could take it to the consulate and get a visa. She told me "Oh no! I can just issue you an itinerary and you can take that with you. Don't buy a ticket now because you may not get your visa in time for you to go on the trip!

All these years, I thought an "Itinerary" was a print out of your actual ticket and reservations. I had no idea that it was a trip that you were planning on taking, not an actual ticket. Sure enough, I took that paper with the suggested dates and flights and they accepted it. I am picking up my Visa in 2 business days.

[RockTimes]

I made a really stupid mistake this week that could have bit me in the ass, hopefully others can learn from it.

I went to the Brazilian Consulate on Monday to get a new Visa. I learned that I needed to have an itinerary to submit with the money order, picture and forms. I got up and left because I didn't have a ticket to show to the agent.

This morning, I called BACC (Travel agency that specializes in discount tickets for Brazil) in order to book a trip to Brazil. While the agent was looking Thur. Different airlines and dates, she casually asked me if I had my Visa. I told her that I needed to buy a plane ticket so I could take it to the consulate and get a visa. She told me "Oh no! I can just issue you an itinerary and you can take that with you. Don't buy a ticket now because you may not get your visa in time for you to go on the trip!..And make sure you use the visa by actually entering brazil in 90 days or the visa becomes invalid and you have to submit a new application with a new fee.

[Riofan6]

And make sure you use the visa by actually entering brazil in 90 days or the visa becomes invalid and you have to submit a new application with a new fee.Brasil is now issuing Americans 10 yr. Visas (in reciprocity for us issuing them 10 yr. USA Visas for all these many years). AND when they hand you back your passport with your shiny new visa in it, the visa is active. The first entry within 90 days ordeal was the old way of business.

[Bravo]

Is it still around 60-70R for a taxi from the airport to Copa? A brasilian told me it was around 100 R now, but I don't know whether she really knew or was just throwing a number out there.

[Exec Talent]

Is it still around 60-70R for a taxi from the airport to Copa? A brasilian told me it was around 100 R now, but I don't know whether she really knew or was just throwing a number out there.The most you should pay is 60 R. It does depend if you arrive on Sunday or after 9:00 when banda 2 is in effect. It is 1.95 per large bag. When I last came in before the World Cup there was a guy on the departure floor procuring taxis. He was very helpful including helping with my bags. He never asked but I gave him a 5 because I have a soft spot for people who actually do their jobs. You can negotiate a better rate if you go to the arrival floor because taxis are looking for return fares (which is what all the Brazilians do) but the hassle of waiting in line for the elevator really is not worth the difference.

[Java Man]

Calculate your taxi fare by going to this site. Just enter your locations. Works in many Brazilian cities. In Portuguese.

http://www.tarifadetaxi.com/rio-de-janeiro

[Bravo]

Calculate your taxi fare by going to this site. Just enter your locations. Works in many Brazilian cities. In Portuguese.

http://www.tarifadetaxi.com/rio-de-janeiroThat is fucking cool! I have never seen that before, thanks! Says it should be a little more than 50 R to Copa, so if I offer 60 R at arrivals, I should get a quick acceptance.

I just showed this program to the brasilian girl I am going to go visit. She swears that every taxi is asking for 100R to Copa. Despite the fact that I told her "You have to remember, you arrived during the World Cup! So everyone was ripping off Gringos!: But she swears that I am wrong and dont know what I am talking about! LOL! We will see.

[Sperto]

That is fucking cool! I have never seen that before, thanks! Says it should be a little more than 50 R to Copa, so if I offer 60 R at arrivals, I should get a quick acceptance.

I just showed this program to the brasilian girl I am going to go visit. She swears that every taxi is asking for 100R to Copa. Despite the fact that I told her "You have to remember, you arrived during the World Cup! So everyone was ripping off Gringos!: But she swears that I am wrong and dont know what I am talking about! LOL! We will see.
You're both right.
The correct fare should be maximum R$55 (bandeira 1, normal traffic) if the taxi use the taximeter. The taxi-booths at Galeão and many drivers at the arrival section will try to charge you R$100 or even more.
If you act cool at departure floor you'll get a taxi ride to Copa paying R$50. The driver will be happy not leaving Galeão empty. Just do it discreetly so the fiscals don't see you.

The majority of the taxidrivers at most airports in Brazil are sharks trying to overcharge. Luckily most airports have excellent bus connections.

[Exec Talent]

I obviously got departures (upper floor with taxis returning to Copa, etc.) switched with arrivals (lower floor) in a previous post.

Make over 10 trips a year and must say that taxis no longer are trying to get over and this last time was right before the World Cup final. The taxis to watch out for (which is included in the taxi fare program) are the radio taxis. The key is to ask them to use the taximeter.

[Bravo]

You're both right.


The majority of the taxidrivers at most airports in Brazil are sharks trying to overcharge. Luckily most airports have excellent bus connections.Thats exactly what I was thinking. If nobody at Departures wants my 60 R, I will just hop on a bus! I just have to find out where the buses are at the airport.

[Sperto]

Thats exactly what I was thinking. If nobody at Departures wants my 60 R, I will just hop on a bus! I just have to find out where the buses are at the airport.
Head right when leaving the exit on the arrival floor. Almost at the end. Ask for the "frescão".

[Jan 156]

I understand the airport buses situation has changed. I don't begrudge 55 Rs too much if I'm tired.

http://www.aeroportogaleao.net/en/galeao-airport-bus-service

Or the shuttle if I'm staying in Centro.

[Java Man]

I will just hop on a bus! I just have to find out where the buses are at the airport.Beginning of the year, I used the bus service, fare had increased since my previous trip, cost $R12, IIRC. Took the one headed to Zona Sul, made stops in Centro, and Santos Dumont, and Gloria, before heading to Copa. Took over an hour due to traffiic. 4 yrs ago that bus ride was MUCH cheaper! It maybe more now.

[Jan 156]

They are also suggesting using the Metro now, in conjunction with the new BRT bus:

"Passengers traveling from the airport to the Zona Sul are encouraged to get the BRT to Vicente de Carvalho and then take the metro (subway) from there," although I am not convinced (only Rs3 plus your Metro fare for anyone that's interested). I think the Real Bus to Zona Sul is Rs13.50. Also if you use the shuttle to Santos Dumont (12 Rs) then the set fare for a taxi is apparently Rs23-28.

Here's the links.

http://riotimesonline.com/brazil-news/rio-real-estate/brt-transcarioca-opens-linking-barra-to-galeao-airport/

http://www.realautoonibus.com.br/Site/NossasLinhas-Premium-00, REAL68983320121012131824-95. Html.

http://www.viagensvamosnessa.com.br/2014/01/alternativas-de-transfer-entre-o.html

[Jan 156]

As it's a General Info thread, might as well add the info for Sao Paulo's main airport, just to keep all the transit stuff in one place.

Rs38 gets you (by bus) to a couple of useful Metro stations (Tiete or Barra Funda) or a choice of two downtown destinations (Republica also has a main metro stop; Paulista has three, but I don't know how close it drops you there). If you really want to save money and don't have too much luggage, a local (cheap) bus will drop you from the airport to Tucuruvi, on the end of the Metro system. A taxi will normally be as little as Rs70-80 to Republica / Paulista but over Rs100 at night or if using special taxis. Hope that helps.

http://www.aeroportoguarulhos.net/transporte-onibus-aeroporto-guarulhos

http://www.orbitapublicidade.com.br/linhas/linhas.aspx

http://www.metro.sp.gov.br/pdf/mapa-da-rede-metro.pdf

http://www.taxiautofare.com/br/Default.aspx?LocationID=178&Distance=31.127&Source=guarulhos%20airport&Destination=paulista&Time=1963

[Eric Cartman]

You're both right.
The correct fare should be maximum R$55 (bandeira 1, normal traffic) if the taxi use the taximeter. The taxi-booths at Galeo and many drivers at the arrival section will try to charge you R$100 or even more.
If you act cool at departure floor you'll get a taxi ride to Copa paying R$50. The driver will be happy not leaving Galeo empty. Just do it discreetly so the fiscals don't see you.

The majority of the taxidrivers at most airports in Brazil are sharks trying to overcharge. Luckily most airports have excellent bus connections.Totally agree, except there are a number of drivers now starting to be dicks about the are $1. 95 per "baggage item" that they are allowed to charge when coming from airports. I had one guy do it to me coming back after a 25+ hour trip from China, and he even counted my duty free bags. I was too tired to argue and my bag was in his trunk / boot, so I couldn't just pay and dash. Just a heads up.

[Shemp]

I see that Independence Day in Brazil, Sept. 7, is on a Sunday this year. Does that mean that Monday Sept. 8, will be a holiday for everybody?

I'm planning my arrival / departure schedule and am trying to figure out if the termas, MC / Solarium /4 x4 will be open on Monday the 8th. I know that they're all closed on Sunday. Obrigadu!

[Bravo]

Totally agree, except there are a number of drivers now starting to be dicks about the are $1. 95 per "baggage item" that they are allowed to charge when coming from airports. I had one guy do it to me coming back after a 25+ hour trip from China, and he even counted my duty free bags. I was too tired to argue and my bag was in his trunk / boot, so I couldn't just pay and dash. Just a heads up.Damn, that taxi driver was an asshole. Luckily, I didn't have any issues. I went up to the arrival area, saw an Taxi SUV and asked him to take me to Copa using the meter. It ended up being around 55 R. No extra charge for the three bags I had or my duty free bags either.

[Sperto]

Interesting reportage about the working rules for the GPs in Rua dos Andradas 69 in São Paulo. "69" and Edificio Itatiaia are two most famous trash-buildings in São Paulo. Both building has about 10 floors with 4 casas/floor. R$20/programa.
http://noticias.r7.com/cidade-alerta/videos/o-predio-do-sexo-casa-de-prostituicao-atrai-clientes-no-centro-de-sao-paulo-30062014

[Ricker]

Interesting reportage about the working rules for the GPs in Rua dos Andradas 69 in So Paulo. "69" and Edificio Itatiaia are two most famous trash-buildings in So Paulo. Both building has about 10 floors with 4 casas/floor. R$20/programa.
http://noticias.r7.com/cidade-alerta/videos/o-predio-do-sexo-casa-de-prostituicao-atrai-clientes-no-centro-de-sao-paulo-30062014Actually it's now R$30/ programa.

Generally both these places are pretty low rent.

I've been stopping by these buildings occassionally for years, and have even got to know most of the Tias (madams) that run each apartment.

Every once in a while though, a gem can be found.

I've found a few and have had some real GFE, especially when we've met up outside.

Be careful though, the area, especially after dark, can be sketchy.

[Mangera]

Interesting reportage about the working rules for the GPs in Rua dos Andradas 69 in So Paulo. "69" and Edificio Itatiaia are two most famous trash-buildings in So Paulo. Both building has about 10 floors with 4 casas/floor. R$20/programa.
http://noticias.r7.com/cidade-alerta/videos/o-predio-do-sexo-casa-de-prostituicao-atrai-clientes-no-centro-de-sao-paulo-30062014Reminds me of Buenos Aires 85 in Rio. That being said, I passed by Buenos Aires 85 on Thursday around 5:30 pm, and it was closed. Chains and lock outside the door.

[Java Man]

Reminds me of Buenos Aires 85 in Rio. That being said, I passed by Buenos Aires 85 on Thursday around 5:30 pm, and it was closed. Chains and lock outside the door.It's been closed for some time now. They moved across the street to #80 per GPGuia. Per Sperto it's not like the ole 85. Only 2 reviews from late last year, both negative on GPGuia. Most recent post on HotForum is from Feb 2014, (Not a TD).

[Mangera]

It's been closed for some time now. They moved across the street to #80 per GPGuia. Per Sperto it's not like the ole 85. Only 2 reviews from late last year, both negative on GPGuia. Most recent post on HotForum is from Feb 2014, (Not a TD).Thanks for the update. Think I will not check it out.

[Jan 156]

Reminds me of Buenos Aires 85 in Rio. That being said, I passed by Buenos Aires 85 on Thursday around 5:30 pm, and it was closed. Chains and lock outside the door.The thing I liked about BA85 was the sense almost of a party atmosphere, as well as excellent value that could be had. Andrade 69, for anyone who likes exploring the trashy venues and goes thru to SP for biz, is much bigger. (I've just mentioned it on the SP thread.) Quality can vary a lot. I've seen stunners walk in, but you can also climb 11 floors on another day and not find anything remotely attractive. Very "grabby", like the Rio Uriguiana trash walk-up. If you are carrying a bag, you have to check it in at security on ground floor before you go up. Much louder is S. P. 's Alameida Barao de Limeira 134, music blaring into the street, but a longer walk from the Metro. Same deal, with a very large number of floors (great if you don't mind a lot of steps). At least in Rio's downtown you can get of the Metro, walk 50 yards, go up an elevator and find a decent privée that's as clean as a dentist's waiting room with girls to match, go down and have a good lunch, then head to the beach. It would be nice to have a few more well-populated trashy walk-ups (there's still some in North Centro, the area north of Vargas on the way to Maua, but sparse) but then they have maybe had their heyday. With a beautiful city such as Rio, good p4 p at a reasonable price and obtained with reasonable ease, is just the reasonably available icing on the cake.

[Mangera]

The thing I liked about BA85 was the sense almost of a party atmosphere, as well as excellent value that could be had. Andrade 69, for anyone who likes exploring the trashy venues and goes thru to SP for biz, is much bigger. (I've just mentioned it on the SP thread.) Quality can vary a lot. I've seen stunners walk in, but you can also climb 11 floors on another day and not find anything remotely attractive. Very "grabby", like the Rio Uriguiana trash walk-up. If you are carrying a bag, you have to check it in at security on ground floor before you go up. Much louder is S. P. 's Alameida Barao de Limeira 134, music blaring into the street, but a longer walk from the Metro. Same deal, with a very large number of floors (great if you don't mind a lot of steps). At least in Rio's downtown you can get of the Metro, walk 50 yards, go up an elevator and find a decent prive that's as clean as a dentist's waiting room with girls to match, go down and have a good lunch, then head to the beach. It would be nice to have a few more well-populated trashy walk-ups (there's still some in North Centro, the area north of Vargas on the way to Maua, but sparse) but then they have maybe had their heyday. With a beautiful city such as Rio, good p4 p at a reasonable price and obtained with reasonable ease, is just the reasonably available icing on the cake.The whole description you just gave in the last post about getting off metro, walking 50 yds, and the whole bit. That's what I just did today. Where you following me, LOL!

[Sperto]

The thing I liked about BA85 was the sense almost of a party atmosphere, as well as excellent value that could be had. Andrade 69, for anyone who likes exploring the trashy venues and goes thru to SP for biz, is much bigger. (I've just mentioned it on the SP thread.) Quality can vary a lot. I've seen stunners walk in, but you can also climb 11 floors on another day and not find anything remotely attractive. Very "grabby", like the Rio Uriguiana trash walk-up. If you are carrying a bag, you have to check it in at security on ground floor before you go up. Much louder is S. P. 's Alameida Barao de Limeira 134, music blaring into the street, but a longer walk from the Metro. Same deal, with a very large number of floors (great if you don't mind a lot of steps). At least in Rio's downtown you can get of the Metro, walk 50 yards, go up an elevator and find a decent prive that's as clean as a dentist's waiting room with girls to match, go down and have a good lunch, then head to the beach. It would be nice to have a few more well-populated trashy walk-ups (there's still some in North Centro, the area north of Vargas on the way to Maua, but sparse) but then they have maybe had their heyday. With a beautiful city such as Rio, good p4 p at a reasonable price and obtained with reasonable ease, is just the reasonably available icing on the cake.
I miss BA85. It used to be a good option when needing a quick and cheap session. I had many really beautiful GPs there. The only disadvantage were the lack of showers and the narrow spiral staircase.

Among the really trashy ones the options are becoming less. Several have closed: BA85, BA113 (no loss), R Carioca 44 (?)(the one on the second floor which I think you liked Chris) and R d Acre 120. The two casas on R Leandro Martins are still working but I havn't seen any nice GPs there the last years. R d Carioca 59 is still worth visiting but the gems are very rare. U24 is a good option when wanting to go sleazy and trashy. Several cute girls. Just a shame about the loud music, filthy cabins and the dark stairs.

The great with mongering in centro in Rio are the wide options. Expensive "robe-termas", topclass prives with nice suites, simple prives with cabins and showers in the hall and finally the Trashy ones. All gathered within 5-10 minutes walk from each other. That's quite unique. It's very convenient that you can take a bus/metro at 9AM, arrive in centro 15 minutes later, 15 minutes more and you are starting a 30 minutes-session. By 10AM you have released your load and 30 minutes later you can sit down at the beach drinking an ice-cold Matte Leão and enjoying the sun.

[Torgoch]

This year's line up.

http://fotografia.folha.uol.com.br/galerias/27797-miss-bumbum-2014#foto-427351.

A few of them have faces like a horse but focus on the lower half of the body. I like the look of Miss Rondonia.

[Java Man]

This year's line up. http://fotografia.folha.uol.com.br/galerias/27797-miss-bumbum-2014#foto-427351.
A few of them have faces like a horse but focus on the lower half of the body. I like the look of Miss Rondonia.Is it that time of year again?

Better pics at: http://www.excelsior.com.mx/global/2014/08/12/975743#imagen-2.

The official site is currently down: http://missbumbumbrasil.com.br/.

[Jan 156]

This would appear to be a good site if you want to access Brazil-only sites such as GPGuia.net from outside Brazil.

http://brazilproxy.com/

[Chercheur]

This would appear to be a good site if you want to access Brazil-only sites such as GPGuia.net from outside Brazil.

http://brazilproxy.com/Thank you very much Christopherd.

[Bravo]

What is it about the germs in Brazil? Holy shit!!

I rarely get sick in America. I can probably count on one hand the number of times I have been sick in the past 10 years. Normally, it takes 2-3 days for the cold or flu to work its way out of my system. (I don't even bother to take medicine when I am sick because I know it will pass soon).

However, the past 4 trips to brasil, I have caught horrendous colds. They last 3-4 weeks long! Painful chests coughs, rib cracking sneezing and we won't even talk about the runny noses. I bombard my system with Advil, Dristan and cough medicine, none of it does any good. No matter what I do, I can't shake this cold. 4th trip in a row that this has happened.

[AdsuchWow]

What is it about the germs in Brazil? Holy shit!!

I rarely get sick in America. I can probably count on one hand the number of times I have been sick in the past 10 years. Normally, it takes 2-3 days for the cold or flu to work its way out of my system. (I don't even bother to take medicine when I am sick because I know it will pass soon).

However, the past 4 trips to brasil, I have caught horrendous colds. They last 3-4 weeks long! Painful chests coughs, rib cracking sneezing and we won't even talk about the runny noses. I bombard my system with Advil, Dristan and cough medicine, none of it does any good. No matter what I do, I can't shake this cold. 4th trip in a row that this has happened.Same deal for me. Have been twice and both times got sick. Once from a girl, once form the plane. This time I am going to LOAD UP on Emergency-see and any other preventative measure I can think of. My only thoughts are that when I have been in Rio I have typically attacked the city like a mad man and have just worn my immunity system down to the point that I am susceptible.

On another note, thinking of hang gliding while there. Has anyone done this?

[Java Man]

On another note, thinking of hang gliding while there. Has anyone done this?Unlicensed and unregulated. Local Authorities have allowed them to police themselves. I remember a post, a few years back, did not end well, with broken bones, long hospital stay and recovery period. Last year, I think, a relative to a Brazilian singer was killed. There was talk of imposing regulations and licensing. Not sure what became of that. It being Brazil, proceed at your own risk. The GDP's should give you enough of a thrill.

[Mangera]

What is it about the germs in Brazil? Holy shit!!

I rarely get sick in America. I can probably count on one hand the number of times I have been sick in the past 10 years. Normally, it takes 2-3 days for the cold or flu to work its way out of my system. (I don't even bother to take medicine when I am sick because I know it will pass soon).

However, the past 4 trips to brasil, I have caught horrendous colds. They last 3-4 weeks long! Painful chests coughs, rib cracking sneezing and we won't even talk about the runny noses. I bombard my system with Advil, Dristan and cough medicine, none of it does any good. No matter what I do, I can't shake this cold. 4th trip in a row that this has happened.I usually spend a couple of months a year in Rio, and I rarely, if ever catch a cold there. That being said, if I do get sick, its usually a stomach thing for just a couple of days. I do not know to what extent it helps, but I know that it helps to always have and use antibacterial gel or wipes. I usually take the individual "Wet Ones" wipes. They work like a charm. Especially after riding on the metro and grabbing the handles or pole for stability. Those things are nasty.

Another sugestion is to always have one of the smaller listerine size bottle with you. So after you finish a session at your favorite spot, wash and rinse right away. Just a couple of habitual things that I practice that contributes to avoiding getting run down by whatever is out there. Boa Sorte!

[Mangera]

Same deal for me. Have been twice and both times got sick. Once from a girl, once form the plane. This time I am going to LOAD UP on Emergency-see and any other preventative measure I can think of. My only thoughts are that when I have been in Rio I have typically attacked the city like a mad man and have just worn my immunity system down to the point that I am susceptible.

On another note, thinking of hang gliding while there. Has anyone done this?http://www.riohanggliding.com/reservations

Check out there website for FAQ. Has all the info. You need if you want to give it a shot. I used them a while back. Good Luck!!

[Exec Talent]

Same deal for me. Have been twice and both times got sick. Once from a girl, once form the plane. This time I am going to LOAD UP on Emergency-see and any other preventative measure I can think of. My only thoughts are that when I have been in Rio I have typically attacked the city like a mad man and have just worn my immunity system down to the point that I am susceptible.

On another note, thinking of hang gliding while there. Has anyone done this?It is a lot of fun and a great experience. Contrary to what most people who have never been to Rio think, it is rare to see a girl sunbathing topless on the beach. Even mulatas like tan lines. When I went there was girl sunbathing topless on the beach below. I asked the instructor how close he could get to her. He laughed and said very close. He did.

The only scary part of the experience was the number of times we ran to the edge of the cliff and stopped because there was not enough wind. Once you are in the air, it is amazing. I know a guide who used to take people. He is not an instructor but speaks English and could advise you on the best ones. I will check to see if he is still doing it and if so, PM you with his contact info.

[FuckAfMedDig]

What is it about the germs in Brazil? Holy shit!!

I rarely get sick in America. I can probably count on one hand the number of times I have been sick in the past 10 years. Normally, it takes 2-3 days for the cold or flu to work its way out of my system. (I don't even bother to take medicine when I am sick because I know it will pass soon).

However, the past 4 trips to brasil, I have caught horrendous colds. They last 3-4 weeks long! Painful chests coughs, rib cracking sneezing and we won't even talk about the runny noses. I bombard my system with Advil, Dristan and cough medicine, none of it does any good. No matter what I do, I can't shake this cold. 4th trip in a row that this has happened.Every time I'm in Brasil I get a stomach bug or a mini-flu. It is after all a tropical climate and the food-hygiene is a lot lower than in Europe.

Water shd be bottled and ice is usually dirty + churrascos can be bad. I got really sick for 5 days in Minas Gerais after eating at a BBQ right before it closed!

Won't be doing that again!

Hey its an involuntary diet so all the drinks I consume and junk -I actually come back thinner-well the gap work out at night and Formula Gym in morning also helps!

[Carlos3000]

Gents, WAPO just did a big expo on sex in Brazil. The following is the URL:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/what-a-prostitutes-tale-tells-us-about-sex-and-a-womans-role-in-the-new-brazil/2014/09/04/86285214-2e2c-11e4-bb9b-997ae96fad33_story.html?hpid=z9

[Sperto]

Gents, WAPO just did a big expo on sex in Brazil. The following is the URL:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/what-a-prostitutes-tale-tells-us-about-sex-and-a-womans-role-in-the-new-brazil/2014/09/04/86285214-2e2c-11e4-bb9b-997ae96fad33_story.html?hpid=z9
Wonderful comments on the article, no 1 and 3 (filho da puta...). :)

[Java Man]

Gents, WAPO just did a big expo on sex in Brazil. The following is the URL:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/what-a-prostitutes-tale-tells-us-about-sex-and-a-womans-role-in-the-new-brazil/2014/09/04/86285214-2e2c-11e4-bb9b-997ae96fad33_story.html?hpid=z9Vogue Club for swingers in Barra de Tijuca. $R130 cover for single guys, ($R250 cover on Sat.) Couples $R70 before 1130p, $R100 thereafter, ($R90 and $R110 respectively on Sat.) No GDP's allowed, (how they going to know.)

www.voguerio.com.br/programacao-rio.htm

[Sperto]

World Cup was bad business for the GPs in Rio.

The study was made by Laboratório de Etnografia Metropolitana da Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro (try to print all that on a business card). The study was made on 83 GP locations in Rio, including Vila Mimosa. On 60 locations the business fell between 30-50% during the WC. Explanations are many holidays closing centro venues, South-American tourists with little money to spend, high costs left no money to spend on P4P and single men preferring to drink with friends instead of mongering. Copacabana had a rise of GPs working the orla.

http://oglobo.globo.com/sociedade/copa-do-mundo-foi-considerada-ruim-pelas-prostitutas-no-rio-de-janeiro-13831773

[George90]

Gents, WAPO just did a big expo on sex in Brazil. The following is the URL:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/what-a-prostitutes-tale-tells-us-about-sex-and-a-womans-role-in-the-new-brazil/2014/09/04/86285214-2e2c-11e4-bb9b-997ae96fad33_story.html?hpid=z9I just read that article. I pretty strongly disagree with its assertions relating to the dichotomy between a highly sexualized image publically but very conservative privately. There are lots of non-GPD women in Brazil who ready and willing to be sexual on relatively short notice, ie. Sex on first date. Like most other countries, there are women who put out only after making the man jump through dozens of high hoops. But I think there are fewer of them in Brazil than in, say, the US.

After some thought, the article seems more like spin to bolster the reputations of Brazilian women. In my opinion, their reputations DO NOT need any bolstering!

[Tiradentes]

No GDP's allowed, (how they going to know.)

www.voguerio.com.br/programacao-rio.htmThey can easily tell by seeing the 'couple' has sex with condom while every other couple is barebacking. They could also easily figure when a man opens his mouth and see he is a not a native Portuguese speaker.

[Albert Punter]

They can easily tell by seeing the 'couple' has sex with condom while every other couple is barebacking. They could also easily figure when a man opens his mouth and see he is a not a native Portuguese speaker.I am not expert of swingers club, but I suppose you use condom everytime there, as you will be fucking with unknown women and not with your couple (real or GDP).

[Rio Bob]

They can easily tell by seeing the 'couple' has sex with condom while every other couple is barebacking. They could also easily figure when a man opens his mouth and see he is a not a native Portuguese speaker.By the time they see you with a condom it's way too late, you're already in.

They may screen you if you're old and your girl is 18, I've seen this and it is very obvious what is going on.

I'm old but when I go to a swing club in Rio I try to go with a gdp who doesn't look that young and if it's my first time with her I will get our story straight and I have never had a problem bringing a gdp into a swing club in Rio or from what I have seen nobody else has either.

This place looks new, I will keep it on my radar on an upcoming trip.

[Java Man]

I am not expert of swingers club, but I suppose you use condom everytime there, as you will be fucking with unknown women and not with your couple (real or GDP).Yes, condom use is required. Usually, only bare activity is a BJ. Change condoms when exchanging partners, and when going from the front door to the back, (if permitted.)

[Java Man]

World Cup was bad business for the GPs in Rio.
The study was made by Laboratrio de Etnografia Metropolitana da Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro (try to print all that on a business card). The study was made on 83 GP locations in Rio, including Vila Mimosa. On 60 locations the business fell between 30-50% during the WC. Explanations are many holidays closing centro venues, South-American tourists with little money to spend, high costs left no money to spend on P4P and single men preferring to drink with friends instead of mongering. Copacabana had a rise of GPs working the orla.

http://oglobo.globo.com/sociedade/copa-do-mundo-foi-considerada-ruim-pelas-prostitutas-no-rio-de-janeiro-13831773On that note, I'd bet the Olympics will have similar results.

[AltoBomGosto]

They can easily tell by seeing the 'couple' has sex with condom while every other couple is barebacking. They could also easily figure when a man opens his mouth and see he is a not a native Portuguese speaker.In Sao Paulo swing clubs barebacking is forbitten!

[Rio Bob]

In Sao Paulo swing clubs barebacking is forbitten!I think the point he was making was that if you are having bareback sex then the woman is probably your wife or girlfriend not a gdp. I've seen this before, I once swapped with a couple, he was banging his chick bareback and had no condoms with him. When he went to insert in my girl she turned around to me and asked me for a condom.

For sure nobody goes bareback in a swing club unless you're banging your own girl.

[Amsterdam Dick]

I think the point he was making was that if you are having bareback sex then the woman is probably your wife or girlfriend not a gdp. I've seen this before, I once swapped with a couple, he was banging his chick bareback and had no condoms with him. When he went to insert in my girl she turned around to me and asked me for a condom.

For sure nobody goes bareback in a swing club unless you're banging your own girl.When I was there, no bareback sex only bareback BJ is allowed. That is confirm and woudn't want to risk myself too. The ladies are great too. Will be heading there again soon in Nov.

[Sperto]

Maybe somebody else is looking for flight tickets within Brazil?

The last month I've been checking national flight tickets (TAM and GOL) for my trip Dezember-March. As always the prices varies a lot. One day can be about 7 times more expensive than the day after.
By some reason today, 1st of October, many low prices appeared on all my chosen destinations on the dates I wanted to travel. Really bargain prices, even cheaper than bus tickets.

Be quick and buy!

[Bravo]

i used to date a girl in barra who told me that this was common in rio, i always thought she was just giving me some bs story until i read this article. she said it was normal for police to kidnap drug dealers and then call the head honcho of the favela and ask for a ransom. if the gang they were from didn't pay or the price they offered was too low, the police would just call the favela they were at war with and offer to sell the drug dealer to them. (she also told me that the police would sell drugs and weapons that they confirep001ed from one favela to another favela).

i read this article today and it backs up everything she used to tell me. a whole police unit was busted for this activity.

http://veja.abril.com.br/noticia/brasil/secretaria-desmantela-balcao-de-negocios-de-pms-na-ilha-do-governador

[FuckAfMedDig]

i used to date a girl in barra who told me that this was common in rio, i always thought she was just giving me some bs story until i read this article. she said it was normal for police to kidnap drug dealers and then call the head honcho of the favela and ask for a ransom. if the gang they were from didn't pay or the price they offered was too low, the police would just call the favela they were at war with and offer to sell the drug dealer to them. (she also told me that the police would sell drugs and weapons that they confirep001ed from one favela to another favela).

i read this article today and it backs up everything she used to tell me. a whole police unit was busted for this activity.

http://veja.abril.com.br/noticia/brasil/secretaria-desmantela-balcao-de-negocios-de-pms-na-ilha-do-governadorthis is old news. police have been doing this for years bro.

[Auriflama]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=333666550084964&set=vb.304157456369207&type=2&theater

Anyone know the name of the group the last 2 min?

[Sperto]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=333666550084964&set=vb.304157456369207&type=2&theater

Anyone know the name of the group the last 2 min?Timbalada.

[Mexicano1208]

I want to go to Brazil to enhanced my Portuguese. I can already communicate at an average rate, but want to make it stronger. Do you guys have any recommendations? Besides learning more about the language I also want some extracurricular activities I have been to Rio, but now it is too expensive. I was in Rio in 2006 and had a blast. I was in Rio again last year and man what a change. The prices are plain expensive. I have also been to Fortaleza and Manaus but was not impress with the mongering scene. I was told to stay away from Salvador since it is just a dirty city and not much to see. I hope someone has some good ideas and maybe the names of some schools.

[FuckAfMedDig]

I want to go to Brazil to enhanced my Portuguese. I can already communicate at an average rate, but want to make it stronger. Do you guys have any recommendations? Besides learning more about the language I also want some extracurricular activities I have been to Rio, but now it is too expensive. I was in Rio in 2006 and had a blast. I was in Rio again last year and man what a change. The prices are plain expensive. I have also been to Fortaleza and Manaus but was not impress with the mongering scene. I was told to stay away from Salvador since it is just a dirty city and not much to see. I hope someone has some good ideas and maybe the names of some schools.Most language schools in portuguese are decent and cheap cause not many use them. English is expensive. Rio can be cheap but depends if you go to the tourist traps or you don't mind bargain hunting. Also my idea of gostoza may not be another gringo's,which tend to work in my favour.

I'm touching down all of November to bang out.

[George90]

I want to go to Brazil to enhanced my Portuguese. I can already communicate at an average rate, but want to make it stronger. Do you guys have any recommendations? Besides learning more about the language I also want some extracurricular activities I have been to Rio, but now it is too expensive. I was in Rio in 2006 and had a blast. I was in Rio again last year and man what a change. The prices are plain expensive. I have also been to Fortaleza and Manaus but was not impress with the mongering scene. I was told to stay away from Salvador since it is just a dirty city and not much to see. I hope someone has some good ideas and maybe the names of some schools.I would like to know who told you to stay away from Salvador and why. I have been to Salvador 6 or 7 times since 1999, though my last time was in 2006. Salvador was the original capital of Brazil. The original government buildings are still standing (or were in 2006) though they are not well kept. There is an Old City spit into Upper and Lower. The Upper Old City has many historic churches and includes the tourist neighborhood of Pelourinho. The Dutch invaded the city not long after its founding and held it for several years. Eventually the Portuguese fought for it back and a war was fought in the All Saints Bay. Wrecks of old ships are still at the bottom of that bay. It is not entirely safe to scuba dive in most of the bay because of the shipping traffic, but it may be possible to dive and see some of those wrecks.

There are many Portuguese schools in Salvador. The better ones teach Brazilian history and culture along with the language. They will give you assignments involving visiting historic sites, describing what you saw, explaining its significance, and telling what you learned from the visit. When you have learned enough Portuguese, you can explore the clubs and P4 P action.

[Mexicano1208]

Hey guys,

Thank you for the input. My Portuguese is good enough to monger around. I am fluent in Spanish and have studied Portuguese before. I just want to get better. George90 I heard the bad comment about Salvador in a website, but didn't believe it. I knew that someone in this site would clarify it. I have found a lot of Portuguese language schools in Salvador and I am tempted to try it. How is the mongering scene in Salvador? Is it better than in Rio? A plus for Rio it's their subway. You can use it and save money in Taxis.

[Jan 156]

http://www.geradorcpf.com/

Thought some members might find this useful (tried and tested on purchases).

[Mongmann]

This would appear to be a good site if you want to access Brazil-only sites such as GPGuia.net from outside Brazil.

http://brazilproxy.com/Thanks for the info!

[Sperto]

Off topic. Looking at my brazilian amigas on their Facebooks they all love to do those ridiculous duck-faces, like they are going to do a beijo grego. Now the tendency seems to be sticking their tongues out when posing. What's wrong with just smiling? :)

[Bravo]

Off topic. Looking at my brazilian amigas on their Facebooks they all love to do those ridiculous duck-faces, like they are going to do a beijo grego. Now the tendency seems to be sticking their tongues out when posing. What's wrong with just smiling? :)I HATE the "duck face or the sending a kiss face"! I think it looks incredibly stupid! Unfortunately, my ex would make that face in about 95% of her fotos. No matter how many times I told her "Just smile, stop making that dumb face, she would still do it!

I've noticed the tongue out of the mouth pose too. Especially when its more than one female, they will aim their tongues at each other. I don't find anything sexy about it at all. Hell, if you want to be sexy, flash your tits or show that thong!!

[AssLover945]

I was in MC with two girls in the room. One a big booty mulatta and the other, Porn star Kelly. The mulatta was sucking my dick while Kelly was kissing my neck. I stopped Kelly and pointed at my dick to let her know it was her turn to start sucking. That is when she did the X symbol with her fingers, kissed them and shook her head no.Bravo what was the deal with Kelly? Price number of shots? Where did you book her? I will be in Brazil soon, and would love to do her. Any info on her would be a big help man. She is my ultimate dream girl to do.

[Bravo]

Bravo what was the deal with Kelly? Price number of shots? Where did you book her? I will be in Brazil soon, and would love to do her. Any info on her would be a big help man. She is my ultimate dream girl to do.Sorry AL, this was damn near 7 years ago! She used to bounce around at different termas and would work at Help on the weekends. To be honest, she was terrible in bed! She was more interested in women, so she only fucked with men to make money. Since she didn't care for men, it showed in her performance! I haven't seen her in many years, no idea where she is now a days.

[Ibiza007]

I just spent 3 days in Las Vegas. The best options were a massage and HJ for $150 or a Massage, BBBJ no swallow and FS for $230 usd. With the sex part lasting all of about 10 minutes and really shitty acting included. Oh baby, Oh baby. If would be better if she just shut up.

For that money you can have a playboy model in Centarus, bang her 3 times in the bunda and get 5 sloppy bjs from her. Or repeat all of this 3 times in Centro.

So, the worst days in Rio are way better than most of the best days in Las Vegas.

If you are in Brasil on vacation, spend all of your money and have a fucking good time, pun intended.

And do not waste one cent in Las Vegas. Although I did talk to a nice hooker in the casino and looking back I should have taken her, she was actually cute with a great body. I fucked up. There are almost all dogs in the casinos.

Look up every night and count your lucky stars you are in Brasil.

Enough crying, Enjoy Rio.

Cheers.

[Ricker]

I just spent 3 days in Las Vegas. The best options were a massage and HJ for $150 or a Massage, BBBJ no swallow and FS for $230 usd. With the sex part lasting all of about 10 minutes and really shitty acting included. Oh baby, Oh baby. If would be better if she just shut up.

For that money you can have a playboy model in Centarus, bang her 3 times in the bunda and get 5 sloppy bjs from her. Or repeat all of this 3 times in Centro.

So, the worst days in Rio are way better than most of the best days in Las Vegas.

If you are in Brasil on vacation, spend all of your money and have a fucking good time, pun intended.

And do not waste one cent in Las Vegas. Although I did talk to a nice hooker in the casino and looking back I should have taken her, she was actually cute with a great body. I fucked up. There are almost all dogs in the casinos.

Look up every night and count your lucky stars you are in Brasil.

Enough crying, Enjoy Rio.

Cheers.Great post!

Great perspective!

Look at this, in the news today:

CBS Sports analyst Greg Anthony — who played for six NBA teams, including the Knicks — was arrested Friday for soliciting a prostitute, according to Washington, the. See. Police.

LT. Kelvin Cusick told The Associated Press that Anthony was arrested at 5:46 pm On Friday. He said Anthony faces a misdemeanor solicitation charge that is punishable by up to 180 days in jail.

Poor guy wants to get a little, and they run a sting and bust him.

Most likely ending his broadcast career and destroying his personal life.

There are terrorist cells popping up in europe, and most likely hiding in the US as well, but they waste time busting guys for this.

Just great!

Yes, it's good to be in Brazil!

[JoeyDude]

I thought I posted this already but guess it didn't go through. I am arriving on the 19th and need a room for 4 night. I really need just basic but clean with WiFi would be nice.

Thanks boys

[Poucolouco]

Prime location, Av Atlantica, Copacabana. Equipment and furnishings for sale separately or as part of package.

[Eric Cartman]

I thought I posted this already but guess it didn't go through. I am arriving on the 19th and need a room for 4 night. I really need just basic but clean with WiFi would be nice.

Thanks boysTry the Ibis near Cardeal Arcoverde metro in Copacabana. It's right after carnval ends though, so might still be pricey.

[FuckAfMedDig]

Try the Ibis near Cardeal Arcoverde metro in Copacabana. It's right after carnval ends though, so might still be pricey.Wi-fi at Ibis is slower than an English pensioner after 3 pops in the Clinica in the rooms. You have to come downstairs in the lobby to use it really. It is girl-friendly though!

[Frenchieboy]

Prime location, Av Atlantica, Copacabana. Equipment and furnishings for sale separately or as part of package.Thanks for the picture Balcony closed! In the past 5 times in Rio and every night in Balcony Bar many good souvenir.

[Exec Talent]

Although the primary purpose of this forum is sex related, it is greatly appreciated that members take the time to provide helpful information which extends beyond that narrow topic. Thanks for taking the time to post and to Jackson for providing the platform.

[Bravo]

Is it true that the there will no longer be access to Whatsapp in Brazil? I had a few friends who are in a panic because they said the government will block access today.

[Mr Enternational]

Is it true that the there will no longer be access to Whatsapp in Brazil? I had a few friends who are in a panic because they said the government will block access today.Doesn't some email to the effect of not being able to use the "in" instant messenger of the day anymore go around every year?

[Safado69]

Is it true that the there will no longer be access to Whatsapp in Brazil? I had a few friends who are in a panic because they said the government will block access today.http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/internacional/en/brazil/2015/02/1595038-judge-bans-whatsapp-in-brazil-and-says-he-wants-app-to-contribute-with-police.shtml

[Albert Punter]

At least till a few minutes ago.

[Java Man]

Is it true that the there will no longer be access to Whatsapp in Brazil? I had a few friends who are in a panic because they said the government will block access today.


At least till a few minutes ago.Holy Frack! Almost spilled my coffee when I read this. Fear not, all is well. Simply inputting "whatsapp Brazil" into Google reveals that an Appeals judge stopped the original judges order. Original order was issued Feb 11, in the interim, 2. 5 million Brazilians joined Telegram, another messaging app.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/2/26/8116945/brazil-whatsapp-suspension-end-to-end-encryption

[Java Man]

Sync Whatsapp between your phone and computer. WhatsApp Web is a computer based extension of the WhatsApp account on your phone.

You need to use the latest version of Google Chrome, Mozilla Firefox, or Opera as your web browser. You must first pair your phone and computer:

1. Visit web. https://web.whatsapp.com/ on your computer.

2. Open WhatsApp on your phone and go to Menu WhatsApp Web.

3. Scan the QR Code on your computer, using WhatsApp.

To avoid data usage charges on your phone, it's recommended that you are always connected to Wi-Fi when using WhatsApp Web.

http://www.whatsapp.com/faq/en/web/28080003

[Auriflama]

What the price from Sao Paulo to Rio air flights round trip?

[Bravo]

Looks like the girls in Macae are hurting because of the oil corruption situation in Brazil. (I read over 50 K people have lost their jobs). The GDPs used to make money hand over fist, now they are starving for business.

http://odia.ig.com.br/noticia/economia/2015-03-13/crise-do-petrolao-afeta-ate-prostituicao.html

[Eric Cartman]

Looks like the girls in Macae are hurting because of the oil corruption situation in Brazil. (I read over 50 K people have lost their jobs). The GDPs used to make money hand over fist, now they are starving for business.

http://odia.ig.com.br/noticia/economia/2015-03-13/crise-do-petrolao-afeta-ate-prostituicao.htmlI spoke to the manager of a hotel in Macae the other day. He said it's a dead zone.

[Eric Cartman]

I have been doing some pondering. If anyone wants to share, I'm curious about the following: what % of your monthly income (pre or post tax) do you think it's OK to spend -- or to reasonably spend -- on GDPs etc (or internet porn or whatever), without starting to worry.

For example, I have a hard time thinking I should spend, say, BRL 5 K per month on GDPs or even USD 5 K. Not that I couldn't spend it, but that I'd start to feel stupid for not sticking that money into mutual funds.

I know there are trust-fund guys and super-wealthly tech guys who wouldn't bat an eye at that. I've been told that if you have to ask, you can't afford it. I went to public school (not the British kind) and have been supporting myself for 25+ years, so that's a different world to me I guess.

Just curious what my fellow board members think would be reasonable. I come back to my previous post about the 'instagram models' who are supposedly getting flown to Dubai for USD 25 K to do all sorts of nasty things for 2 days. I can't help thinking that maybe I am just missing out on some level of crazy sexcapades that I never dreamed of.

Not sure really how to justify that kind of expense.

What do you think?

[The Cane]

I have been doing some pondering. If anyone wants to share, I'm curious about the following: what % of your monthly income (pre or post tax) do you think it's OK to spend -- or to reasonably spend -- on GDPs etc (or internet porn or whatever), without starting to worry. For example, I have a hard time thinking I should spend, say, BRL 5 K per month on GDPs or even USD 5 K. Not that I couldn't spend it, but that I'd start to feel stupid for not sticking that money into mutual funds. What do you think?I always go with my motto. Make sure your bills are paid and your investments made before you get laid! It's easy for me to pay my bills because I make sure I don't have many. I have virtually no debt. I contribute to two different pension funds, and I invest in a 401 K plan. Plus I have a money market account and a mutual fund account. That's what I feel I need to do in order to set myself up right financially for the future. And then, I'm fortunate enough to still have enough disposable income left over to take pretty Latina and European girls in all three holes. Everybody's circumstances are different, but I would start your inquiry by asking a different question. Before asking how much is it OK to spend on the tutes, I would ask how much money do you need to pay your bills and to save sufficiently for the future? Once you've done that analysis and you're successfully executing your long-term financial plan, then how much money you can spend on the tutes really answers itself. As much of what's left over as you would like to! Hehehehehe!

[FuckAfMedDig]

I have been doing some pondering. If anyone wants to share, I'm curious about the following: what % of your monthly income (pre or post tax) do you think it's OK to spend -- or to reasonably spend -- on GDPs etc (or internet porn or whatever), without starting to worry.

For example, I have a hard time thinking I should spend, say, BRL 5 K per month on GDPs or even USD 5 K. Not that I couldn't spend it, but that I'd start to feel stupid for not sticking that money into mutual funds.

I know there are trust-fund guys and super-wealthly tech guys who wouldn't bat an eye at that. I've been told that if you have to ask, you can't afford it. I went to public school (not the British kind) and have been supporting myself for 25+ years, so that's a different world to me I guess.

Just curious what my fellow board members think would be reasonable. I come back to my previous post about the 'instagram models' who are supposedly getting flown to Dubai for USD 25 K to do all sorts of nasty things for 2 days. I can't help thinking that maybe I am just missing out on some level of crazy sexcapades that I never dreamed of.

Not sure really how to justify that kind of expense.

What do you think?Its difficult to compare as I don't live in Rio and only indulge when I am but I think money can be spent many ways in Rio-there are clearly bargains to be had but I have no doubt I would be spending 5 a month if I lived there. $.

[Rio Bob]

I have been doing some pondering. If anyone wants to share, I'm curious about the following: what % of your monthly income (pre or post tax) do you think it's OK to spend -- or to reasonably spend -- on GDPs etc (or internet porn or whatever), without starting to worry.

What do you think?The other 2 posters gave you great advice on this, I would just like to add a few things. In the 80's I was working for Pan American World airways, I was young, single and I had free first class international travel at my fingertips and I didn't make a lot of money. I worked with other young people like myself who were conservative, didn't travel much, saved their money and were very careful. I on the other hand told myself that the position you are currently in is only going to happen now, that you won't be young for long or even single or work for an international airline where you can travel free all over the world.

So I travelled as much as I could sightseeing and mongering to Europe, Rio wherever and there were many trips I went on where I didn't have any money so I went to the credit union and borrowed so as not to miss the current oppurtunities. When I eventually left Pan Am on my own to make more money I was in debt but I had the time of my life of memories and mammaries that I will never forget. Sometimes I talk to my old colleages from Pan Am who were more conservative than me and they tell me they regret being so careful at the time and wished they had travelled more, I on the other hand feel I did the right thing and have no regrets at all, I lived it to the fullest.

So I guess what I'm saying is the answer to your question depends upon how long do you think you'll be able to do what you are currently doing because nothing lasts forever. Don't cut yourself short get it all in. So if you plan to live in Rio for a long time then you have plenty of time and you need to cover all bases save and monger but if you think you only have a few months left or a year then get it all in, always time to save later.

[Ganger24]

Hi guys,

I can't see the trees in the forest anymore with so much information on this great forum. So that's why I have a simply question.

I want nightlife, beach, unspoiled girls and a direct flight. Where I should go?

[Tiradentes]

Anyone used the visa agencies shown below to get a visa to BraSil and are they reliable? Hate to waste anentire day fighting the traffic in order to get to the consulate.

http://cgwashington.itamaraty.gov.br/en-us/submitting_through_a_travel_or_visa_agency.xml

Thanks.

[Exec Talent]

Anyone used the visa agencies shown below to get a visa to BraSil and are they reliable? Hate to waste anentire day fighting the traffic in order to get to the consulate.

http://cgwashington.itamaraty.gov.br/en-us/submitting_through_a_travel_or_visa_agency.xml

ThanksHave used Its Easy multiple times and for different people in different jurisdictions and they always have come through ahead of promised date.

http://www.itseasy.com/

[George90]

I always go with my motto. Make sure your bills are paid and your investments made before you get laid! It's easy for me to pay my bills because I make sure I don't have many. I have virtually no debt. I contribute to two different pension funds, and I invest in a 401 K plan. Plus I have a money market account and a mutual fund account. That's what I feel I need to do in order to set myself up right financially for the future. And then, I'm fortunate enough to still have enough disposable income left over to take pretty Latina and European girls in all three holes. Everybody's circumstances are different, but I would start your inquiry by asking a different question. Before asking how much is it OK to spend on the tutes, I would ask how much money do you need to pay your bills and to save sufficiently for the future? Once you've done that analysis and you're successfully executing your long-term financial plan, then how much money you can spend on the tutes really answers itself. As much of what's left over as you would like to! Hehehehehe!

And an excellent motto it is! I am adopting the ditty I bolded. It is very catchy!

Your bills get paid, your investments get made, before you get laid!

[FuckAfMedDig]

And an excellent motto it is! I am adopting the ditty I bolded. It is very catchy!

Your bills get paid, your investments get made, before you get laid!Romance with no finance is a damn nuisance!

[Exec Talent]

I hopefully moved this discussion (which like the you can't turn a housewife into a garden implement one, seems to come up every two months) off the Rio Reports thread.

When Brazilians travel to Europe they adopt European ways unless you speak Portuguese and they enjoy your company. I have encountered many Brazilians around Europe and have gotten the same level of service as I have received in Brazil. Many places they actually control how much time they spend with you and if they are enjoying themselves they are in no hurry. I also have been in clubs where once the girls find out your speak Portuguese they will come by and say they don't usually do this or that but in your case they will. The best advice that anyone on this forum will ever give you is to learn Portuguese and not the guttural version claimed by some of the "experts. " If anyone who has made serious contributions wants to know where to find Brazilians throughout Europe, send me a PM.

As for comparisons, I hesitate to bring this up but do think the girls of the former USSR and Czechs are right up there.

[Sympalogy]

When Brazilians travel to Europe they adopt European ways unless you speak Portuguese and they enjoy your company. I have encountered many Brazilians around Europe and have gotten the same level of service as I have received in Brazil. Many places they actually control how much time they spend with you and if they are enjoying themselves they are in no hurry. I also have been in clubs where once the girls find out your speak Portuguese they will come by and say they don't usually do this or that but in your case they will. The best advice that anyone on this forum will ever give you is to learn Portuguese and not the guttural version claimed by some of the "experts. " Exect Talent, you know I respect your opinion, yet my experience with the BR girls in Europe (specifically Spain) was actually the opposite.

Whenever I called an escort girl, and I spoke to her in Potuguese, they kind of freak out and ask me whether I know them etc.

And they only calm down once they are sure I am not from Brazil.

More than once, girls have told me flat out "no dice", and I couldn't meet them because of speaking Portuguese.

However, the same girls, calling from a different number and speaking English were a lot more willing and receptive.

Of course this didn't happen in 100% of the time, and is limited to my experience with Brazilian escorts in Spain, but hey, some people can have a different experience in the matter.

Clearly though speaking Portuguese in Brazil is an advantage with the girls (although it was not good in the good old HELP because girls used to think I am a Brazilian impersonating a gringo in order to impress them or something, but I was also negotiating the prices which because of the "union" they had in HELP was a big no no).

My experience had also been that Brazilian girls in Spain are not as GFE as in Rio (yet still better than other nationalities), but that may be because most of the girls I have met in Spain are from Sao Paulo rather than Rio, so they could be the same was back in Sampa.

I had a lot of girls in Rio giving me extra services for free, like girls who don't do CIM offering it to me, or anal, and even an expensive 700 Reais an hour girl spending the whole night with me for free just because she said she hates dealing with "clients". Great girls, I consider the Cariocas to be the very best women in the world.

[Bravo]

What are they protesting about now?

[Poucolouco]

What are they protesting about now?The demonstrations are against corrupt government, inflation, Petrobras graft and its effect on a failing economy.

Forty nine political figures, including close allies of Rousseff, and former Petrobras executives are under investigation over a kickback and money laundering scheme that saw an estimated $3. 8 billion creamed off inflated contracts over a decade. Petrobras is majority owned and operated by the State of Brazil. Petrobras can't complete a valid audit of its balance sheet as losses and write-downs keep mounting and its bond rating was recently downgraded to junk by Moodys.

Last week, Brazil's Supreme Court announced it would investigate the speakers of both houses of Congress and more than 30 other congressmen and senators all but one of whom are from Ms Rousseff's ruling PT (Workers Party) and its coalition allies. Prosecutors believe that for much of the past decade Petrobras executives and the country's largest construction companies conspired to cream billions of dollars off Petrobras contracts, part of which was used to fund political parties and line the pockets of politicians. Millions of dollars were laundered through Swiss banks. Ms Rousseff, who has denied any involvement in the scheme, was chairman of the Petrobras board when much of the alleged graft took place.

In addition to the corruption scandal at Petrobras, Rousseff is also facing rising inflation and a Brazilian economy that is on the brink of recession.

Granted, Rousseff was recently reelected but it was by a narrow margin of 51 percent of the vote, the closest election in Brazil's history. The electorate is clearly divided by far left socialists and center to moderate voters.

[The Cane]

My experience had also been that Brazilian girls in Spain are not as GFE as in Rio (yet still better than other nationalities), but that may be because most of the girls I have met in Spain are from Sao Paulo rather than Rio, so they could be the same was back in Sampa.I have had outstanding experiences with Brazilian girls in Spain, Germany, and Switzerland (I go for the PSE over the GFE). Indeed, the best BBBJ / CIM service I have ever had in my entire life (not exaggerating) was at Club Globe in Zurich, and it was provided by a Brazilian girl going by "Sara". My whole body seized up in almost unbearable pleasure from her talented lips and tongue. Sometimes, I have crazy thoughts of flying to Switzerland just for the weekend so that Sara can suck my dick again. It was that good! I've also had some good anal sessions with Brazilian women in Europe. When nobody else in the club was butt fucking, of course the hot Brasilieras were! As I always say, they are simply the best on any continent where you find them! And they always love it when you tell them that Brazil is your favorite country and that you have been there many, many times. Sara laughed her head off when I called her "popozuda" LOL! Damn I love me some pretty, bubble butt Brazilian tutes! By the way, Sara told me that she got to Switzerland by marrying a Swiss guy. I bet she sucked his dick and he fell for her immediately hahaha! Well, they were no longer married by the time I met her (and two other Brasilieras) at Club Globe.

[Albert Punter]

Browse www.voegol.com.br or www.tam.com.br and check yourself.


What the price from Sao Paulo to Rio air flights round trip?

[Shemp]

Does the metro line currently stop at Cantagalo in Copacabana or does it extend into Ipanema?-if so, where is the stop (s)?

[Sperto]

Does the metro line currently stop at Cantagalo in Copacabana or does it extend into Ipanema?-if so, where is the stop (s)?General Osório, Ipanema.

[Poucolouco]

Does the metro line currently stop at Cantagalo in Copacabana or does it extend into Ipanema?-if so, where is the stop (s)?Yes, the metro stops at Cantagalo and continues to General Osorio. Both stations are operating normally now.

[Dutchboy7908]

Hello mongers,

Having a great time in Sao Paolo. But I did run out of my pills. Went to a sex shop but seems they are not selling the kamagra etc at these shops. Any more experienced mongers know of places to buy? Or does someone have some extra supply.

All info would be very much appreciated!

Dutch

[Sperto]

Hello mongers,

Having a great time in Sao Paolo. But I did run out of my pills. Went to a sex shop but seems they are not selling the kamagra etc at these shops. Any more experienced mongers know of places to buy? Or does someone have some extra supply.

All info would be very much appreciated!

DutchI don't know if this is a trick question, but how about trying a farmácia?

[Troyster]

Hello mongers,

Having a great time in Sao Paolo. But I did run out of my pills. Went to a sex shop but seems they are not selling the kamagra etc at these shops. Any more experienced mongers know of places to buy? Or does someone have some extra supply.

All info would be very much appreciated!

DutchFarmácia. Haven't been to one in Brasil for a while but generally very easy to find in Latin America. Was offered Cialis in Bogota at a pharmacy without even asking.

[Dutchboy7908]

I don't know if this is a trick question, but how about trying a farmcia?Hi Sperto,

Available at pharmacies I understand. Thanks for the tip. Understand your remark but just didn't want to get bookmarked as spam for promoting Viagra etc.

Will go and see if I can get some!

Happy times ahead.

[Mangera]

Hi Sperto,

Available at pharmacies I understand. Thanks for the tip. Understand your remark but just didn't want to get bookmarked as spam for promoting Viagra etc.

Will go and see if I can get some!

Happy times ahead.Walk into any pharmacy and show them a piece of paper with the following written on it: Citrato de Sildenafila 50 MG. It costs me 18R a box last year. 4 per box.

Actually, you might want to grab one of their flyers inside the store and check out the prices. Then go to the counter and show them the piece of paper. This generic brand of Viagra works like a charm. I buy the 50 MG tablets and break them into 4 pieces. More than enough for me with just a quarter. This varies depending on the individual. I use it when seeing multiple chicks on the same day. No prescription necc. Enjoy!

[Pete Marqdadon]

Tonight and it will be my 1st time attempting to monger there although I have previous experience in Tijuana. What advice can you guys provide?

[Sperto]

Tonight and it will be my 1st time attempting to monger there although I have previous experience in Tijuana. What advice can you guys provide?My advice is RTFF, enjoy yourself and report back on the forum.

[Poucolouco]

This report is provided to supplement my response to MRusa007 in the Rio de Janeiro thread. It is posted here to rebut the charge that I had posted miss information. I personally have several years of first -hand experience assisting Brazilians with B1, B2, J, and H3 nonimmigrant visas as well as IR1 immigrant visas.

US Visa processing at the Brazilian Consulate.

This can be an easy process if you qualify within the framework of screening performed by the Consular official who handles your application. It can also be very frustrating if the applicant does not precisely demonstrate strong ties to Brazil, self sufficiency, financial means and proven intent to not exceed their temporary visit. Each year 3 to 5 percent of applications (35 to 40 thousand persons) are denied for these reasons.

Form DS-160 questions:

Work / Education / Training Information.

Primary Occupation.

Present Employer or School Name:

Address.

City.

State / Province.

Postal Zone / Zip Code.

Month Salary in Local Currency.

Briefly Describe your Duties.

According to the Immigration and Naturalization Law, all non-immigrant visa applicants must demonstrate to the consular officer that they have strong ties to their country of residence, and must show that they intend to depart the USA After their temporary visit. While there is no specific list of docum ents to be provided or things that must be done in order to demonstrate strong ties outside of the United States, applicants may wish to bring a variety of materials that can assist in demonstrating these ties. .

If someone else will pay for your travel, then it can be important to bring documents demonstrating that person's or organization's ties outside of the United States, as well as documents that can help demonstrate the applicant's own ties to his or her country of residence.

Source: http://brazil.usembassy.gov/instnvisaforms.html http://travel.state.gov/conten t / visas / english / general / ineligibilities. Html#visa.

Consular officers will generally apply a means test to determine if the applicant meets the minimum income level established by the Department of Homeland Security. In 2015 this is $19,512 for a family of two. (Reais =58,500).

Brazilian Nonimmigrant Visas Granted and Denied 2006 - 2014.

Year Applications Granted Denied.

2014 1112148 982463 35588.74 3. 20%.

2013 1047867 925678 36675.36 3. 50%.

2012 1188248 1049689 38023.93 3. 20%.

2011 907152 801371 34471.77 3. 80%.

2010 629461 556061 32731.97 5. 20%.

2009 547931 484038 38355.17 7. 00%.

2008 509274 449889 28010.09 5. 50%.

2007 407220 359735 39093.12 9. 60%.

2006 321219 283762 42400.85 13.20%.

Source: http://travel.state.gov/content/visas/english/law-and-policy/statistics/non-immigrant-visas.html.

To stress the point that figures don't lie but liars figure, Visa data should not be confused with admissions data, which counts visits to the USA.

Non immigrant admissions: 2013 - 2,143,154 2012 - 1,792,425 2011 - 1,539,015.

Source: US Department of Homeland Security. Note: In this report, nonimmigrant admissions refer to the number of events (I. E. , admissions to the United States) rather than to the number of individual nonimmigrants admitted. One person visiting 3 times counts as 3 admissions.

What does the increase in admissions tell us?

According to a recent survey from research firm Data Popular, more than 6. 5 million Brazilians plan on traveling by August 2014. In 2013 Brazilians spent more than US $25 billion on international trips, a hefty increase from the US $22 billion they spent in 2012.

Class "see" Spending Spikes Between 2002 and 2012, Brazil's Class "see" middle class increased its travel expenditures by 242%. And the upward trend did not stop in 2012: we recently reported that Class see Brazilians will spend even more on travel in 2014.

Brazilian Travel to the United States Will Continue Surging Braztoa (the Associao Brasileira das Operadoras de Turismo or Brazilian Association of Tour Operators) noted that in 2005,485,000 Brazilians visited the United States and spent US $2. 2 billion. By 2013 Brazilian travel to the United States increased by 332% as nearly 2. 1 million Brazilians visited the United States and spent US $10.5 billion. This year more than 2. 2 million Brazilians will visit the USA And by 2018 the total will reach 3 million.

Brazilians Travel Frequently More than 4 out of 10 Brazilians (41%) travel 3 times a year or more, while 36% travel twice a year and 19% travel once a year.

Source: http://latinlink.usmediaconsulting.com/2014/05/reaching-the-brazilian-travel-market/.

[Tonyels]

This report is provided to supplement my response to MRusa007 in the Rio de Janeiro thread. It is posted here to rebut the charge that I had posted miss information. I personally have several years of first -hand experience assisting Brazilians with B1, B2, J, and H3 nonimmigrant visas as well as IR1 immigrant visas.

US Visa processing at the Brazilian Consulate.

This can be an easy process if you qualify within the framework of screening performed by the Consular official who handles your application. It can also be very frustrating if the applicant does not precisely demonstrate strong ties to Brazil, self sufficiency, financial means and proven intent to not exceed their temporary visit. Each year 3 to 5 percent of applications (35 to 40 thousand persons) are denied for these reasons.

Form DS-160 questions:

Work / Education / Training Information.

Primary Occupation.

Present Employer or School Name:

Address.

City.

State / Province.

Postal Zone / Zip Code.

Month Salary in Local Currency.

Briefly Describe your Duties.

According to the Immigration and Naturalization Law, all non-immigrant visa applicants must demonstrate to the consular officer that they have strong ties to their country of residence, and must show that they intend to depart the USA After their temporary visit. While there is no specific list of docum ents to be provided or things that must be done in order to demonstrate strong ties outside of the United States, applicants may wish to bring a variety of materials that can assist in demonstrating these ties. .

If someone else will pay for your travel, then it can be important to bring documents demonstrating that person's or organization's ties outside of the United States, as well as documents that can help demonstrate the applicant's own ties to his or her country of residence.This sounds really tough especially if the girl is a GDP. Sounds like they would have a low probability of success.

[Pete Marqdadon]

Just spent a few hours trying to "RTFF" as suggested last time I asked a question before I asked a question but still need a little clarification to make I understand everything. Basically. I'm in Copacabana and I want to got to Termas Monte Carlo. I gather I need some cash to tip but My question is can I put everything on my credit card or do I need to pay the girl in cash? Thanks for any help you guys can provide a newbie here in Rio for the 1st time.

[Junior]

Just spent a few hours trying to "RTFF" as suggested last time I asked a question before I asked a question but still need a little clarification to make I understand everything. Basically. I'm in Copacabana and I want to got to Termas Monte Carlo. I gather I need some cash to tip but My question is can I put everything on my credit card or do I need to pay the girl in cash? Thanks for any help you guys can provide a newbie here in Rio for the 1st time.You can pay everything by card, but there is usually a quite steep surcharge for using a credit card.

[Mangera]

Just spent a few hours trying to "RTFF" as suggested last time I asked a question before I asked a question but still need a little clarification to make I understand everything. Basically. I'm in Copacabana and I want to got to Termas Monte Carlo. I gather I need some cash to tip but My question is can I put everything on my credit card or do I need to pay the girl in cash? Thanks for any help you guys can provide a newbie here in Rio for the 1st time.Yes, you can pay for everything (gal, room, drinks, entrance, tips) with credit card only or with cash only, or part in credit and part in cash. Please do not tip the gal extra for services in cabina. You might begin a bad trend by doing so. You are free to do as you wish, but so you just know, Brazilians do not normally give tips for service in cabina. Tips to bartender and waitresses might be a different story. Enjoy!

[Sperto]

Just spent a few hours trying to "RTFF" as suggested last time I asked a question before I asked a question but still need a little clarification to make I understand everything. Basically. I'm in Copacabana and I want to got to Termas Monte Carlo. I gather I need some cash to tip but My question is can I put everything on my credit card or do I need to pay the girl in cash? Thanks for any help you guys can provide a newbie here in Rio for the 1st time.
No, you didn't RTFF. If you had you should have learn't that you shouldn't tip the girls. Guys like you ruin this business. That's one reason why I limit the information I share on this forum.
Go ahead, pay with your card, get scammed and give a big tip just to show the staff that you're new to the game.

[Eric Cartman]

Just spent a few hours trying to "RTFF" as suggested last time I asked a question before I asked a question but still need a little clarification to make I understand everything. Basically. I'm in Copacabana and I want to got to Termas Monte Carlo. I gather I need some cash to tip but My question is can I put everything on my credit card or do I need to pay the girl in cash? Thanks for any help you guys can provide a newbie here in Rio for the 1st time.Mr 4 Posts. Tipping is VERY VERY BAD and sets a bad precedent. Don't do it. Just because you are a newbie clueless gringo, please don't act like one.

Nobody expects tips in Termas, nor in taxis. Restaurants add the service charge so you don't have to think about it. Don't be *that guy*.