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Damn no wonder you said the return trip was a story in itself.
Sorry to hear about the misfortune.
It's a done deal; no need worry more, and thanks to a good report we're all the wiser about Maria.
Chica network an' t got shit on ours.
Z
Hi everyone.
So thats about it. From what I have now read here I know that 1) I should be able to get a girl for cheaper than that, and 2) I may be more likely to have fun at Zona Blue or IDEM. From what I read the prices there are about $45 US, but I am wondering whether that includes the use of a room for the hour?
This is probably a bit lengthy so I will cut it off now, but do want to take this opportunity to say thanks for the reviews and pics posted by other members. I have found it to be a goldmine of information.
Yes room is included.
The goldmine is a little richer now.
Z
Mr Jetsetter
07-16-07, 08:07
Intension,
The Clarion has a real nice no-limit hold'em game with $1-2 blinds. They also sometimes spread a $2-5 no-limit game. I touched upon this in my July 4th post. Assuming you are new to this board, I strongly suggest spending a couple of hours perusing past posts on this forum. It could really be helpful.
Thanks for the info. I generally spend hours reading any board before I post (different boards seem to have different cultures so its often good to get a "lay of the land" so to speak), I just never happened to come across that post of yours. Will search for it now.
Intension,
The Clarion has a real nice no-limit hold'em game with $1-2 blinds. They also sometimes spread a $2-5 no-limit game. I touched upon this in my July 4th post. Assuming you are new to this board, I strongly suggest spending a couple of hours perusing past posts on this forum. It could really be helpful.
Professor 1
07-16-07, 15:17
So thats about it. From what I have now read here I know that 1) I should be able to get a girl for cheaper than that, and 2) I may be more likely to have fun at Zona Blue or IDEM. From what I read the prices there are about $45 US, but I am wondering whether that includes the use of a room for the hour?I am sorry to hear of this bad experience. You can get girls at HDR for less than US$100. It appears that you hired a true pro, who earned quite a sum of $$ for not much work.
Try to reduce the alcohol intake, and bargain prior to departing. It you pay full fare for P4P, and you did, you do not need to provide taxi money.
FKK Newbie
07-17-07, 21:35
Im headed to CR in August, and want a female escort for three nites since I am traveling alone. I've read all the posting here, most cover the massage
and bar scene which Im not interested in. I am interested in some concise advise on how to obtain a decent girl at a fair price to be my
"girlfriend" for a few nites. My goal is to experience the sceneic beauty of CR, and have some female "companionship" while doing so. Any concise tips/advice would be helpful(any advice on scams/places to avoid is great too)
Thanks so much.
I am interested in some concise advise on how to obtain a decent girl at a fair price to be my
"girlfriend" for a few nites.
What you mean with a “decent girl”?
Any girl that goes with you for the money for sure is not decent.
Be more specific.
FKK Newbie
07-17-07, 22:14
I mean decent looking, someone fairly attractive. I prefer the fairer-skinned, tall, slim types with a friendly attitude.
What you mean with a “decent girl”?
Any girl that goes with you for the money for sure is not decent.
Be more specific.
Im headed to CR in August, and want a female escort for three nites since I am traveling alone. I've read all the posting here, most cover the massage and bar scene which Im not interested in. I am interested in some concise advise on how to obtain a decent girl at a fair price to be my "girlfriend" for a few nites. My goal is to experience the sceneic beauty of CR, and have some female "companionship" while doing so. Any concise tips/advice would be helpful(any advice on scams/places to avoid is great too)
Thanks so much.Regardless of what you mean by "decent", I see a few problems with your strategy.
1) Generally speaking, you'll pay a fairly hefty premium for any escort service that you might be able to book in advance. The one escort service in CR that generally gets decent reviews for quality of service and value is G&G (www.costaricaggescorts.com check your PMs for member access info). In the case of G&G, I believe the rate is something like $250/day (before a CRT discount) and they're probably one of the cheaper ones. Independently, you shouldn't have to pay much more than $200/day (unless she's a "super model") and you might even find a chica who would do it for as little as $100/day (ie just enough to offset the 1-2 other tricks/day she might otherwise have made) or perhaps even less if she wants to get out of the Gulch and go on a little vacation to nice hotels, restaurants, activities and whatever other sundries you might spend on her.
2) The "quality" in terms of looks will usually be no better and probably a little worse than the chicas you can find on your own. Some of the escort chicas may even be the very same chicas you'll find at the BM and other places only through an agency you'll be paying someone else an extra cut, though certainly many others will be "students" or other types of semi-pros who just don't want to be seen going into or otherwise associated with notorious hooker bars like the BM or KL.
3) You might or might not be able to get a final "right of refusal" with an escort service. Many escort services post fake pics (G&G doesn't). Sometimes they'll bring out a few of their chicas to meet you after you arrive so you can make your final selection or otherwise let you change your selection after you meet your first pick, but your subsequent selection will still be limited to their "stable" of girls and you may not be overwhelmed with any of them.
4) At best you may get to meet the chica someplace for a few drinks beforehand but, unless you sign on for their hourly rates first, you probably won't get to really "try her out" before you take off on your travels through the countryside. If you do that, you might want to negotiate the right to convert your session to a 24hr one at their 24hr rate w/o having to pay the ST rate as well. OTOH, if you approach it something like that, how is that any different than just shopping around after you get there except for the fact that you've pre-limited your market selection?
5) Even if you hit it off for an hour of passion back in your room or a half an hour of conversation over drinks, how well will you hit it off with her being with her 24/7 (or in your case 24/3)? For example, a lot of girls can go 30-60 minutes without cellphoning in to check on her ninos or novias, but you might find that attachment to the side of her head a bit wearing after not too long. Or, the first time you meet her at a bar she may be ready to go when you are, but getting her to show up or be ready for anything after that will probably be a whole other story (aka "tica time"). In short, "mongers never really pay for sex, we pay them to leave". Are you sure your really want to spend 24/7, excuse me 24/3, with a relatively uneducated bargirl? Maybe you will, but spending more than a few lousy minutes with her before you hit the road will greatly improve your odds that you'll continue to hit off over the next few days together. And if you're going to spend that sort of time "qualifying" your selection after you get there, why bother trying to book it in advance?
Some other suggestions:
1) Plan to spend some time in SJ at the beginning of your trip and save your countrywide exploration for the end.
2) There's plenty of countryside around SJ that you can visit in day trips returning to SJ in the evening where you can do your "chica shopping" for the rest of you trip.
3) Even with your slightly more specific description, what is "decent" or "fairly attractive" is still just in the eye of the beholder. However, given your situation, I'd add a criteria that you didn't even mention. Look for a chica without any kids if at all possible. In fact, if I were looking for a travelling companion that would be the very first question I'd ask them. In CR, chicas w/o kids may be fairly rare since they seem to start popping them out before they even reach legal age, but it will greatly improve your chances that your ST trial chica will be able to get out of town for a few days (or if she can get out of town any way, that she won't be calling to check on them every 2 seconds)
4) If you do take a chica on the road, be prepared to send them home early if it doesn't work out. She'll probably ask for the air, taxi or shuttle fare to get back but you can bet she'll really be taking the public bus for $5.
5) Consider destinations that don't require you bringing a chica with you such as Jaco Beach or, god forbid, going for a couple of days without any female companionship.
Member #2964
07-18-07, 02:12
You can spend as proilio says $250 +/- or $100.00.
my 2 cents is take what you have read here and else where; spend a few hours if not a day looking into the MP's. Your best bet will be the DR or if you get lucky ZB or NF.
It takes time and leg work to get the real deals. The most I have paid is $50 a day plus expences and as little as $35. And that was last December -January.
Try to find a girl with no kids or a girl who still lives with her mother if the girl your interested in has children. She will have to pay the baby sitter $50 - $60 a week. Mother a little less.
$100 a day will get you any decent chica without argument or questions. Its the rainy season and the girls are hungry.
Whatever you decide always have the girl spend the night with you before the morning you leave for the trip and if she wants any money up front, forgetaboutit. Move on to chica #2 or #3.
As far as cell phone. Its her security blanket and when you want some time alone its a great thing for her to have to play with. I will not take a girl who does not have a cell phone for a trip. Its great to not only have a willing sexual companion but also one who carries and pays for a phone YOU can use any time during the trip to ck on taxi's, Hotels, flights, resturants, fishing trips, etc.
I am traveling to C.R. the first week in August, was thinking of doing the same. Checking out the MP first. Great minds think alike. Staying at the Morazan, lurking around the D.R. Wave we can have a beer together.
I will be in CR in a few weeks. Since I arrive late at night I am planning on spending the first night in Alajuela. I remember reading in the forum that there are plenty of chicas available in Alajuela but I can't seem to find the names of any MP's or clubs. Any help would be appreciated.
I will be in CR in a few weeks. Since I arrive late at night I am planning on spending the first night in Alajuela. I remember reading in the forum that there are plenty of chicas available in Alajuela but I can't seem to find the names of any MP's or clubs. Any help would be appreciated.Where did you read that? There may be some small seedy tico places that you could go to in Alajuela if you could find them but I'm guessing the talent at any of them would be [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor. Most Alajuela working chicas commute to SJ to ply their trade for at least 2 reasons. In a "catholic" country, most small (relatively speaking) town chicas don't want to be seen by their family, friends and neighbors working as prostitutes. In San Jose, they are further away from the eyes of folks that might know them and being a much larger city are able to do what they do in greater anonymity. Secondly, its not that long a commute, 30 minutes by public bus.
However, there is at least one adult venue of note, D'Pelufo's, sister club of the D'Pelufo's in San Pedro. Reportedly the chicas there are of similar quality of the chicas at the San Pedro club, which is pretty club. But, if it is anything like the San Pedro club, there is no on-site f/s available just graphic lap dances and the possibility of getting the digits of one of the dancers for getting together elsewhere later.
Let me ask you a question. Just how late are you getting in? The public buses from SJO to downtown SJ run at least until 11 or 12 and cabs will run as late as there are flights. The cab ride that late at night shouldn't take much longer than 15 minutes. Are you saying you are in such a rush to get to your hotel you can't wait that much longer to get there? If you are getting in so late, wouldn't it also be too late to go out at all? If you stay in the Gulch, you could grab a 15minute cab, check into your hotel, drop your bags and walk to where you could pick up chicas within 30 minutes of exiting the airport, so I just don't see any advantage of staying out by the airport.
No offense, but this is the sort of ridiculous question that I'd expect from Nibu Raphael, who seems fixated on mongering opportunities in small and often obscure towns in a region where most commercial activity (and hence sex work as well) migrates to the nations' capitals or at least their major tourist cities. Sure you have a few exceptions like a few of the major tourist cities in Colombia or Brazil or, in the case of CR, Jaco, but just about everywhere else the small town local pro action will be limited to the few ugly local skanks serving the local native markets.
Prolijo,
I have read some of your previous posts and I can see that you are a valuable contributor to the forum. So, out of respect for your past work I will provide a few more details, rather than risk being accused of asking a dumb question like Nibu!
I arrive at 11:45, with my 16 year old daughter in tow. We'll be here for a week and will be staying in SJO with a Costan Rican family. I figure that by the time I get through customs it will be nearly 1 AM, after a long flight from the US. By the time we get a taxi and arrive at our destination, it will be approaching 2 AM. Rather than have her meet her "host" family for the first time in the middle of the night, I thought we could go to a nearby hotel and see some of the sights in and around Alajuela in the morning, before heading to SJO. Makes a lot more sense now doesn't it?
Having been to CR several times before, I am anxious to sample some of the local chica hospitality but opportunities will be limited due to having my daughter with me. I am sure that I read on this forum (but have been unable to find it) that others have claimed that Alajuela has "down home" versions of SJO's massage parlors, where a guy might get more of a GFE. That's what I remember anyway. Your comments make sense and perhaps I will just have to do without. I wasn't sure how I was going to slip anyway. Thanks for the input.
I don't think there are very many flights getting in that late so it shouldn't take that long to get through C&I at that time. Shit, I've gone through in as little as 15 minutes during the day. By any chance are you flying Spirit Air? I think that is when their evening flight from FLL arrives. How pathetic is it when one starts to memorize all the various flight schedules? No guarantees if Spirit won't manage to screw up with the baggage claim, but you should be pretty good. Once you're out of the door, you could be at a hotel in downtown SJ in as little as 15 minutes, so you might even be squared away by as early as 12:30, much earlier than 2AM. Still I understand a little better where you're coming from now.
I agree that even 12:30 is still kinda late to meet her host family for the first time, but if you're going to a hotel that first night any way the real question is which hotel to go to and going downtown only adds another 15minutes to that equation. If you're with your daughter, sneaking out that night will also be a problem whereever you stay. I assume she'll be in another room, so maybe after she goes to sleep, which probably will make you timing later than 2AM.
At that time of night in Alajuela you're talking only bars and nightclubs. Any MP's will be closed at that hour. I don't think D'Pelufos offers any onsite f/s but that one may be different. And even if you could do some take-out (either by barfining, which I don't think they have either) or waiting until after the girl gets off of work, your still have the problem of sneaking her back to your hotel with your daughter in the next room. There may be some "down-home" local tico bars in Alajuela that are still open at that hour, but I suspect the talent will probably not be that great even if it is "more GFE". (Of course ugly women are more likely to provide "more GFE")The next morning, by the time any MP's open you could easily be in SJ, where there are plenty of "down-home" tico MP's to choose from if you know where to go.
Sights in and around Alajuela? Not much at all in town. Nearby you could take her to the Butterfly Farm just on the other side of the airport, Poas Volcano 30 minutes north of Alajuela, Zoo Ave heading away from SJ from Alajuela or detour to Cafe Britt just north of Heredia in Barva on your way into SJ.
If you head to downtown SJ to stay that first night, you could stay in the Paseo Colon area to be a little closer to the airport. For example, the Ambassador Hotel on Paseo Colon between Calle 26&28 is chica friendly but not that charming and it really only saves you less than 5 minutes vs something closer to the Gulch. OTOH, you may want to stay further out of the Gulch to keep your daughter from being exposed to what goes on there.
When I went to SJ once with my family, I stayed at the Don Carlos, which is a nice mainstream and very charming tourist B&B in Barrio Amon north of the Gulch. It also happens to be across the street from the NF, which makes it handy for sneaking away during the day, but I'm not sure I fooled everyone in my family with all my "going out walks". They also aren't girl friendly so any mongering done while staying there will have to be done somewhere else.
Once you're downtown, you can catch a cab to some club like Molino Rojo from some late-nite on-site down-home. Not sure how GFE that is though. All my sessions there have been good but fairly business like. I've had some great GFE sessions next door at Arcadas, but my favorita no longer works there. I've also heard that the chicas at Pirates are pretty fun and GFE, but the place is not so cheap and the chicas I've seen there not so bonita. You can also session on-site at someplace like Pantera Rosa or Kamur with some hot friendly chicas but the price goes up proportionately.
The next morning in the Paseo Colon area there is Oasis and at least 3-4 other "down-home" tico MP's within easy walking distance of the Ambassador. But I probably don't have to tell you about all the MP's in SJ.
BTW, I was just busting your balls about Nibu. He's definitely in a class by himself. So no offense meant.
Great photos and reports... we have some ladies in common!!!!
Next time you need a responsible wing man just let me know. You will still miss you flight but at least I can give you a doctor's note that will at least exempt you from additional fees.. ...
Happy hunting
Snook
AlterdBeast
07-20-07, 19:43
My buddy and I will be in the CR next Thursday for a few. I have learned a lot from here and thank all the contributers. I expect to get some hist for asking but. Was wondering towards the end of the trip we may be a little broke so if that happens where are the spots with the cheaper girls? I know they won't be supermodels but he wanted me to ask. Also, what are the better tours and such? Thanks all. We will be at the HDR.
DR Monger II
07-21-07, 02:24
I would go to massage parlors. Zona Blue, IDEM and etc for cheap play. It's a lot cheaper than HDR girls.
i would go to massage parlors. zona blue, idem and etc for cheap play. it's a lot cheaper than hdr girls.wrongo!
i have to strenuously disagree. without the crt discount, zb is definitely thee most expensive mp in sj at 24k colone hour. with the discount, it merely roughly ties idem and nf as just one of the 3 most expensive mp's (with rates in the 17-19k colone range). there are literally dozens of tico mp's rep001tered around sj with rates of only 12k colones per hour or less. and if your money is really short there is always the pensiones on calle 6 with rates of only 3k per half hour, but they definitely won't be supermodels at that rate.
comparing the gringo mp's to the hdr/bm is really not the toughest competition to base your evaluation. rather than comparing mp girls to the overpriced chicas at the bm, maybe one should compare the gringo mp chicas to their tico counterparts like i've done above.
and that is a big part of the problem. because of the former weak comparison used by so many guys who then feel they have to compensate them like a bm girl with excessive tips, the chicas at places like zb are increasingly coming to expect such tips, not for exceptional service but almost as a regular anf expected entitlement. think about it. if those girls work at those mp's instead of working at the bm, its for a reason. maybe its greater security, maybe steadier business or maybe greater anonymity. if all those intangibles, without any excessive tip, weren't already enough to offset the greater money they could get working at the bm instead, they'd be working at the bm instead. sure some do wind up working there. who cares? leave them for the guys that don't mind paying $100/hr. there are still plenty of chicas that will work for even less than they make at places like zb.
one last thought: its the same false logic that the guys who pay cien use. how is comparing bm chica rates to what gringas charge in the us as a basis for rationalizing paying cien any different from using the most expensive and overpriced chicas in cr as a basis for overtipping the most expensive mp girls?
Dodger Bulldog
07-21-07, 05:57
I agree with Prolijo.
ZB and Bar Idem may or may not be cheaper than the Del Rey (as many of the girls at HDR can be bargained down to 20-25,000), but they are not cheap by the locals' standards.
Specific names of some of the cheaper local MPs might help: I have found gems at 747 and ChaChaCha, and they are right next door to each other. At other times, I found nothing of interest there.
And though I have never managed to be at Oasis when it was actually open, there have been many good reports about this place, at reasonable prices.
Good luck!
DB
specific names of some of the cheaper local mps might help: i have found gems at 747 and chachacha, and they are right next door to each other. at other times, i found nothing of interest there.its hit or miss at all those places, but then again that is the beauty of there being so many of them. you just pop your head in each one and ask to see who's working. if you don't see anything you like you just move on to the next one. 747 and chachacha are conveniently right next door to each other, but you don't have to start there. starting from 'ground zero' at the bm, one can also stop at muses, europa 2000, dungeon and krysis before even coming to 747 and chachacha. if one hasn't come across one do-able chica at any of those places, one could detour south from there to check out pensiones, but personally i wouldn't do any of those chicas with your dick, no matter how cheap they are. instead one could loop north and eastward roughly back towards the gulch, hitting jetset and, if you still haven't found anything acceptable at any of the more reasonably priced places, finally resorting to the higher price options of first zb and then nf. what's that? a 9 stop mp tour.
and those are just the daytime options in the zona rosa. around oasis, if you find the picking there slim, one could head back toward paseo colon but bang a left on avenida 1 at the end of the block. another half a block down on the left, you'll find a sister mp of oasis (run by the same mgmt). i had a really excellent session there with a cute tica spinner on my last trip. another 2-3 blocks down from there is vips mp. and on the other side of paseo colon in the same area is veronicas and sala vilma and reportedly a few other hidden mps that even i don't know anything about (ask brandon). thats what? another 5 cheap mp's all within walking distance of each other. and i could name yet another half dozen or so mp's rep001tered around sj, but you get the point.
and if its too late in the day and these places are all closed, there are still other alternatives than the price inflated bm. if nothing else, idem is open until midnight. but just as there are "gringo mp's" like zb & nf and "tico mp's" like 747 and chachacha, there are "gringo bars" and "tico bars". in the zona rosa, there tico bars like monaco, bachata, club 40 and vips taberna. just be very careful wandering around that area late at night (preferably take cabs whereever you go).
btw, i'm heading to sj on tuesday for a couple of nights before taking off on my 'central america 2007 summer tour'. if anyone is going to be around then and is looking for a wingman, drop me a pm and we can talk about it. db, we haven't been able to hook up at any of the tampa crt chapter meetings (there's another on the 11th, which i'll miss this time), hopefully you'll be in sj and we might be able to get together and toss down a couple of imperials or something at the sl or bm or something. i'd love to pick your brain and get tips for the rest of my trip.
Dodger Bulldog
07-21-07, 10:30
Hey Prolijo,
Thanks for fleshing out the details.
I knew there were many more MPs than I had mentioned, but many were closed when I went on a similar walking tour, as it was the holidays.
I didn't want to refer him to someplace where I hadn't personally had some success. Except that Oasis has been very well reviewed, so I felt comfortable throwing that name out there.
Sorry, I am going to be stuck here in sex prison until at least Thanksgiving. When I had my wisdom teeth removed I saved back some hydrocodone pills to deal with the immense pain of withdrawal from CR, but they ain't helping me any.
Truly I would rather have another tooth pulled than to be this far away from the chicas.
You would ask me for tips? That's like Warren Buffet asking me for a loan.
It sounds like you have some other stops on your itinerary. Where else will you be going?
I know that you will have a great time while you are there!
DB
I've got CR covered pretty well, but I'll be heading to Nicaragua for 5 days, 5 more in San Salvador, a night or 2 in GuatCity around 8/5, then on to Copan and Utila in Honduras for 9 days (with possible mongering stops in La Ceiba, SPS and Tegoose along the way), returning to Nicaragua on the 15th and CR around the 19th. If you or any one else has any last minute pre-departure words of wisdom for me (or even happen to match up with any part of my route) drop me a PM.
Mr Jetsetter
07-21-07, 13:27
Prolijo,
Kind of curious why you seem so annoyed about supposed "excessive" tipping at Zona Blue, as indicated in a couple of your recent posts. I've sessioned there at least 30 times in the last two years and have never had a lady solicit me for a tip. Until my most recent trip, I never tipped anyone over 5,000 colones, but the service I received this last trip while engaging in multiple 3-somes was so clearly "over the top" and "above and beyond" that I felt compelled to reward the ladies accordingly by giving them 10,000 colones each. By some strange coincidence, every session seemed to be an improvement on the previous one, and I never seemed to have a problem repeating with my favorites. A couple of them would actually depart from conversations with other gentlemen when they saw me walking into the bar area. Imagine that!
I realize other guys on this board and CRT have complained about tip solicitation, and it appears that Eddie is specifically dealing with this issue in an appropriate fashion, as indicated on info boards posted in every room in which he requests that he be informed if any lady pulls this kind of stunt.
By the way, I moonlight as a catering waiter to pay for these trips, and I have an enormous first-hand appreciation for receiving nice, even "excessive" propinas! I have never made more than $50,000 a year in my life, so I'm hardly a fat cat throwing 10,000 colones around like it means nothing to me.
I greatly respect your advice about searching for less expensive alternatives, but,you know, most of the time I don't really have the desire or energy to scope out multiple MPs in one jaunt. Yes, I have been to Oasis and VIPS but have generally not been very impressed, although I fully realize I might not have hit them at the right time.
I've observed posters referring to the "price police" on this and other boards. I guess we'll have to add a new term to the lexicon: "tipping police."
I guess we'll have to add a new term to the lexicon: "tipping police."Jet, I was just stating my opinion. This sort of debate has probably gone on as long as there has been tipping and people traveling between different countries and cultures and occurred on more general foreign tourism boards as well as ones like these. I've long since given up any hope of converting any (IMHO) overly generous tippers over to my way of thinking and even if I did, there will always be plenty of other overly generous tippers such that my 1 or 2 conversions would make little difference.
You've been a service industry worker IN THE US who has depended largely on tips, so your perspective would be entirely different from most other people. That is not to say that makes your perspective on tipping IN CR any more right or wrong then someone elses. For whatever its worth, however, I'll throw out a few other facts to back up my point of view.
I'm not sure what sorts of restaurants you've moonlighted at but if you were working at fancier places with menu prices that are double what most other regular restaurants charge (as ZB prices are double that of other MP's) and received 50% tips on those bill totals (like you're paying at ZB), I am positive you'd easily have made WELL over $50K/yr on tips alone.
In the US, TIPs USED to stand for "To Insure Prompt Service". It WAS a reward for "above and beyond" service. With restaurant bills being what they are, aren't we supposed to already be paying for the service of bringing the food to the table. At what point did it become expected of us that we pay a premium for getting what we should already expect of the them as basic service. Don't misunderstand me, I understand that service staff are underpaid and depend on tips for the vast bulk of their income, but in what other industry do customers essentially pay an employers employees for him. Do you tip your store clerks at places you shop, office workers at the companies you do business with, automechanics at the place you take your car. I always tip waitstaff well over 15% or even 20% whenever I eat out because I know workers in the restaurant industry can be paid less than the normal minimum wage based on the expectation that they also get compensated by tips, but I'm sorry you have to admit that is a screwy system. Shouldn't if be the restaurant owner's responsibility to pay them a reasonable living wage, expect they provide good customer service for that and fire them if they don't (and reflect that with menu prices that already include those costs in it without requiring you to pay another 20% premium). If the service was TRULY extraordinary, diners could still leave a REASONABLE tip, but not nearly 50% or even 20% and not anything at all for service that was merely ordinary.
But back to CR. The actual share of the fee that chicas at MP's get is typically about half. While certainly not great, all things considered, is certainly MUCH greater than the share of the restaurant tab that waiters typically get. The reason is because they do not expect to have to make the bulk of their income on tips. Even if they did, a 10K colone tip in CR represents well over 80% of the average daily wage in CR and would be roughly equivalent to you getting over a $100 tip based on the average daily earnings in the US. And how many tips like those have you received?
You may not be a "fat cat", but with tipping practices like yours you might just as well be. You say the performances at ZB have gotten consistently better each time and the chicas now flock to you. Damn, I hope they would for the types of tips you're paying. Where does all that leave those other guys who those chicas leave hanging in mid conversation? Which brings me to my other objection. A common rationale of the generous tippers is the "its my money and its my business" argument. Whether these girls actively solicit these sorts of tips or not or whether some guys just give them of their own initiative, those girls quickly come to know which guys tip heavy, which guys tip by US standards (3K colones would be a 15-20% tip) and which guys tip by tico standards (which would be nothing). This is evidenced by the fact that they now flock to you. That might not make you a fat cat, but I bet it makes you feel like one. A 50% tip SHOULD and DOES get you excellent service, once they know they can expect it. What sort of service does that leave those guys who "only" tip 20%? Average or humdrum? And what about the guys who don't tip at all because they think they should already be getting above average service when they're already paying 50-100% more than the prices at those other MP's?
Eddie may be trying to deal with the problems those excessive tippers have created and he may very well be able to get the chicas to stop hitting guys up for tips, but as long as there is a policy that allows for guys to give tips (as there probably should be), Eddie won't be able to do anything about EXPECTATIONS. What is he really going to be able to do about girls providing lackluster service if they know, god forbid, the guy is "only" going to tip 2-3K colones? And should the guys even tip that much if the service is lackluster?
Last point. I can fully appreciate not really having "the desire or energy to scope out multiple MPs in one jaunt." But what else are you going to do while hanging out in SJ during the day? Sit at the SL or BM bar or ZB cigar bar and toss down overpriced beers. Personally I like to get out and walk, if for nothing else, just to stretch my legs and work some of those beers off. And walking between the various MP's (which if you plan your route are rarely more than 2-3 blocks apart) provides one theme of walk to take. Lest anyone think I'm a hardcore monger, I also like to explore different and nicer neighborhoods than Zona Rosa, as well as parks, museums and better yet getting out of SJ altogether during the day to go rafting or whatever. But spending a couple of hours in the afternoon after I get back from a tour or late morning, if I'm hanging out in town, checking out the Zona Rosa or Paseo Colon area MP's, is not that big a deal, for me at least. And the mental energy involved is still far less than what many guys like to expend in their fishing expeditions to places like the BM for chicas who finally agree to something still higher than the set prices at the various MP's.
I don't know anything about Costa Rica but saw this photo on-line today.
A few of those honeys sitting in that bar with Mel are not too shabby at all.
Is Nicoya a monger area?
http://www.tmz.com/2007/07/16/mel-gibson-costa-rica-loco/
Is Nicoya a monger area?Not generally speaking, but when you're a multi-millionaire anywhere can really be a mongering area.
Dodger Bulldog
07-22-07, 00:04
I don't know anything about Costa Rica but saw this photo on-line today.
A few of those honeys sitting in that bar with Mel are not too shabby at all.
Is Nicoya a monger area?
http://www.tmz.com/2007/07/16/mel-gibson-costa-rica-loco/Others have pointed out that in the photo the neck looks extraordinarily long and out of proportion to the head.
Also, the color of the skin changes between the neck and the chest.
I'm no expert, but after studying it a bit the photo looks bogus to me, too.
DB
In the US, TIPs USED to stand for "To Insure Prompt Service". Wrong.
Tip was what men would do with their hat out of respect for the person. It was a complement.
Mr Jetsetter
07-22-07, 03:10
Prolijo,
As usual, another lengthy,thoughtful, and reasoned post from you. Yeah, I fully admit I did overtip this last trip. Maybe it had something to do with the fact I made over a grand playing hold'em at the Clarion, and the fact that the service was indeed incredibly sensational, vastly superior to previous experiences at ZB, in which I generally left around 3,000 colones or so for the tip. I still think what I chose to tip is my business, and I could really care less about possibly impacting the experiences of those mongers who chose not to tip at all. BTW, I won't tip a single colone if the service is mediocre or poor. I'll compromise and say a tip of 5,000 colones would have been more appropriate in my case, which is a tad over 20% of the entire charge.
I also agree with you about doing a bunch of walking and getting out of the gulch and San Jose from time to time. For the record, I never, ever took a taxi when visiting Oasis or dining at Maccu Picchu. I have scuba dived off of the Osa Peninsula and hiked Corcovado, visited Cahuita and Puerto Limon and other points along the Caribbean coast, and rafted the Pacuare on three separate occasions.
We ain't so far apart, and I'm a big fan of your contributions to this board.
I don't know anything about Costa Rica but saw this photo on-line today.
A few of those honeys sitting in that bar with Mel are not too shabby at all.
Is Nicoya a monger area?
http://www.tmz.com/2007/07/16/mel-gibson-costa-rica-loco/
Is the guy smoking in the background Carl Rove?
The photo of Mel was published in La Nacion, the main paper in San Jose.
So it was not photo shopped.
And he was in a bar in Samara, near to where he purchased property.
DR Monger II
07-22-07, 19:03
It's a shame Mel Gibson has fallen down so far.
I tipped 10k for girls, but this was negotiated for better service. bbbj or 2 pops and etc.
I tipped 10k for girls, but this was negotiated for better service. bbbj or 2 pops and etc.That's different. At least if you've negotiated the up front base price accordingly. Some guys like to work those items into the base expectations and make an all inclusive offer such as 30K colones por todo, chupar sin condom, muchos veces, hora completo, etc. Other guys bargain them down to 20K colones with a promise of a 10K tip if they provide all those things. What's really the difference in the end. I can see the merits of both approaches.
I was staying at the airport Marriott with a gringa girlfriend a couple of years ago (I know, like taking mud to a beach). Anyway, at about 1:00 or 2:00 AM she needs some medication for a yeast infection. So we head off to an all night pharmacy in the middle of the town of Alajuela. There were street walkers walking around close to some bars and a couple looked pretty decent to me. But my standards are low and it was dark. Masaje, I know none of this is going to do you any good, but if I were stuck in a hotel in Alajuela with a car and without a teenage daughter, I'd probably check it out.
I will be in CR in a few weeks. Since I arrive late at night I am planning on spending the first night in Alajuela. I remember reading in the forum that there are plenty of chicas available in Alajuela but I can't seem to find the names of any MP's or clubs. Any help would be appreciated.
You made a comment about never having made it to Oasis when it was actually open. I thought I posted a report on my one and only Oasis experience back in October, but I can't seem to find the report anywhere herein. Suffice it to say ...... my Oasis experience was awful. It was maybe 12:30 in the afternoon. Only four girls. The only semi-cute one was Roxanna (or something like this). Killer body but really mechanical and definitely not into it. The place was clean, but only had massage tables. No smoking allowed. Now, who ever heard of a ***** house where you couldn't smoke? All-in-all, an absolutely terrible experience, Roxanna was worthless, and I would never go back to Oasis.
TGAM-Nog
Dan D Dick
07-23-07, 17:32
I had a nearly similar experience.....Stopped off one time & there were only four or five gals. Not a one even cracked a smile & one even yawned. I did a 180, went around the corner to Sapphire & had a great time (though the slecetion there was awful as well). Based on my very limited experience I wouldn't go back.
Thanks to this board (& CRT) for knowing my options.
/Dan D.
OldGringoBangs
07-23-07, 23:56
My friend and I were in San Jose for the 5th time. It really has changed. Alot of street crime. In fact we were bumped from our flight by TACA and had to spend an extra day in CR. We rented a car and did not know we were followed from the airport. In Escazu we stopped at a light and they punctured our tire while standing at the light. We drove a few blocks and then had to stop and try and fix it. While doing so they stole by Backpack from the back seat. It had my wallet plane, tickets, computer and camera. Also my passport. What a horror. So be aware of your surroundings. Also there were quite a number of muggings in Parque Morazon while I was there Honestly I feel a lot safer in Colombia. Lots of Police and Military on the streets.
AlterdBeast
07-25-07, 00:30
Thanks for the info shared. I have made my notes. My friend and I will be there Thursday by lunch! What is this CRT card? I did a search and see it a lot but not how to get it? Looks like something of interest?
Mr Jetsetter
07-25-07, 06:30
AlterdBeast,
Me thinks you didn't look very hard or very well. Go to their site, and click on "membership" at the top of their home page.
If you do become a member like myself, don't forget about the ISG. I generally post on both boards.
DR Monger II
07-25-07, 19:54
I never saw any muggings on Morazan park. I was there for about a week. However, I did see Travestites at night around morazan and the streets near INS building. Be careful. They were shouting at cars and such. They also usually travel in threes. I'm not sure if you guys could handle 3 tranvestes at the same time? I walked around and never got pick pocketed. However, I might have been lucky.
In Escazu we stopped at a light and they punctured our tire while standing at the light. We drove a few blocks and then had to stop and try and fix it. While doing so they stole by Backpack from the back seat. It had my wallet plane, tickets, computer and camera.
This apparently is pretty common. We were warned by the people at Advantage car rentals that people would jack around with your tires, at service stations or whereever, and then have an accomplice rob you blind somewhere down the road.
It's a shame Mel Gibson has fallen down so far.
Uh - excuse me?
How did he 'fall so far' - looks to me like he's just drunk at a bar with a bunch of girls. Sounds just like most of us.
Have we fallen too?
I never saw any muggings on Morazan park. I was there for about a week. However, I did see Travestites at night around morazan and the streets near INS building. Be careful. They were shouting at cars and such. They also usually travel in threes. I'm not sure if you guys could handle 3 tranvestes at the same time? I walked around and never got pick pocketed. However, I might have been lucky.I had a group of 3 girls or TVs, I did not know which, they came headon to me and all put their hands in my front pockets to steal from me. Some money came out onto the sidewalk, but I beat them to it and then I ran to the Del Rey.
This was about 5 years ago. It was about a block off of the park, on the street out front of the Del Rey.
DR Monger II
07-26-07, 19:41
I'm just curious. How does this happen? Do they secretly steal stuff from your car? Are these guys carrying weapons? Why don't you just beat them up? I mean you knew what was happening?
My friend and I were in San Jose for the 5th time. It really has changed. Alot of street crime. In fact we were bumped from our flight by TACA and had to spend an extra day in CR. We rented a car and did not know we were followed from the airport. In Escazu we stopped at a light and they punctured our tire while standing at the light. We drove a few blocks and then had to stop and try and fix it. While doing so they stole by Backpack from the back seat. It had my wallet plane, tickets, computer and camera. Also my passport. What a horror. So be aware of your surroundings. Also there were quite a number of muggings in Parque Morazon while I was there Honestly I feel a lot safer in Colombia. Lots of Police and Military on the streets.
This is my third trip to Costa Rica, but my first with the real intent of mongering. Previously I'd been here with girlfriends to head up to the hot springs and just chill out.
Having mongered in several destinations (Cuba, DR, Brazil, Argentina, Nicaragua, Thai, Cambo, Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, parts of Europe, China, Japan) I'd have to put Costa Rica at the very very lowest place on my list, and it's probably the only place I'd never even consider returning to.
I found the city unforgivably filthy, just trying to go to some of the Tica bars at night was a downright fright - (almost got run over as a driver aimed for me, got surrounded by crack-heads while trying to flag a taxi). After dark much of the city turns into some bizzare nightmare out of a zombie video game - with people literally staggering around out of their mind. It doesn't appear to be a safe city in the least.
The chica prices are competitive, but overall I was amazed at the low quality - compared to Brazil or Argentina. While everyone's opinion of 'quality' is different - I guess I'm just not into the fat 25+ gals that seem to abound in the nightclubs and god forbid the girls at the tica brothels.
The guys I met and watched were sort of an eye opener as well - In Asia (where I spend most of my time) one does run across a certain type of low-class westerner, but in CR I found this magnified - guys from USA who probably are into NASCAR and high-fiving each other while drooling over fatties, snapping pics and dancing samba at club. Some scary sh*t.
Wanting to have something good to say about CR.. Not sure - it's a short hop from the US I guess.
Overall - I was hugely surprised at the difference 'I' found from reading this board prior to the trip - to what I saw on the ground.
I'm posting a negative review, not to start a flame - but just to give some new guys another perspective. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
Mr Jetsetter
07-30-07, 13:50
Mudpie,
Just where exactly did you hang out? Where did you stay? You do not mention any specifics whatsoever in your post to buttress the credibility of your opinion or to give prospective newbies a valid perspective.
I do agree there are definitely superior mongering destinations around the world (I am a big fan of Buenos Aires), but you can have a pretty good time in San Jose if you take the time to read the boards and know what you are doing. Heck, just perusing Dodger Bulldog's pictures and posts kind of blows your "argument" out of the water.
Hey, sorry for not giving more details. However I don't think anyone's report can really 'blow mine out of the water' as my report is my experience. I wouldn't label myself a newbie in the scene. I just happen to think that the scene is CR is not so cool.
I've read reports where people ask - should I go to CR or BKK, CR or Rio, CR or DR - and in my opinion I'd give CR a wide berth.
I'm sure no tears will be spilled by the girls, fellow mongers or the country by my departure.
I stayed (am staying) at Del Rey - a little run down but passable. I've gone to: Blue Marlin, Key Largo, New York, IDEM, Miss Caribe, Arcadas, Molino Rojo, La Bella Mansion, Alcasar, Zona Blue, and The Dungeon, so far.
Maybe I'm just into cute Asian girls - but I will say I had a GREAT (fantastic) time in Rio, BA, and a good time in Havana, DR.. So it's not just the Asian thing - I've found the girls in CR to be really really low-class and out of shape, and the city is just foul with druggies.
The locals I've come in contact with (at least in the Gulch) - hotel workers and the like - have invariably just been rude. (I'm surely not a rude guy)
I guess my point in posting - was that some posters make CR sound like heaven, and it may be to them - but there is another side as well - it is not a beautiful city (Rio, BA) by any means - it is closer to a gutter (aesthetically), and for the money 'I think' more fun can be had with the girls just about anywhere (DR, Cuba, Argentiana, Brazil).
I am anxious to try Columbia, Panama, and Venezuela. But first I'm off to Asia (Cambo, Thai, Philippines, Indo & China) for two months - which is really my first love.
Mr Jetsetter
07-31-07, 02:05
Mudpie,
Yes, more details, more credibility. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, and you are certainly not the first to lodge similar complaints about San Jose.
Yes, I have encountered a number of out-of-shape ladies in San Jose as well, but have also had no problem whatsoever hooking up with slender, "spinner" types. I certainly concede that some of the dudes that hang out at the Del Rey can be real bozos, and I've never been that attracted to the DR scene, although I've certainly seen some incredibly hot ladies there, particularly during my last trip.
While I have never had any problems with crime in San Jose, numerous veterans on this and the CRT board have been commenting on this problem lately, and it is certainly an issue. I also think the locals could do a much, much better job of keeping trash off the streets.
San Jose is a nice mongering stop for those from the US who can only get away for a few days. It only takes me about 8 hours to get down there from Denver. I totally agree that anybody who can get away for a couple of weeks or more would be better off going to places like BA, Lima, Rio, or places in Asia. BTW, I think you would have to agree that crime is a major issue in Rio as well. And I found from personal experience that much of Lima is downright scary and poverty-ridden.
Good luck with your future travel experiences. I am certainly envious of your resume!
FlacoDuro1
07-31-07, 04:36
This is my third trip to Costa Rica, but my first with the real intent of mongering. Previously I'd been here with girlfriends to head up to the hot springs and just chill out.
Having mongered in several destinations (Cuba, DR, Brazil, Argentina, Nicaragua, Thai, Cambo, Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, parts of Europe, China, Japan) I'd have to put Costa Rica at the very very lowest place on my list, and it's probably the only place I'd never even consider returning to.
I found the city unforgivably filthy, just trying to go to some of the Tica bars at night was a downright fright - (almost got run over as a driver aimed for me, got surrounded by crack-heads while trying to flag a taxi). After dark much of the city turns into some bizzare nightmare out of a zombie video game - with people literally staggering around out of their mind. It doesn't appear to be a safe city in the least.
The chica prices are competitive, but overall I was amazed at the low quality - compared to Brazil or Argentina. While everyone's opinion of 'quality' is different - I guess I'm just not into the fat 25+ gals that seem to abound in the nightclubs and god forbid the girls at the tica brothels.
The guys I met and watched were sort of an eye opener as well - In Asia (where I spend most of my time) one does run across a certain type of low-class westerner, but in CR I found this magnified - guys from USA who probably are into NASCAR and high-fiving each other while drooling over fatties, snapping pics and dancing samba at club. Some scary sh*t.
Wanting to have something good to say about CR.. Not sure - it's a short hop from the US I guess.
Overall - I was hugely surprised at the difference 'I' found from reading this board prior to the trip - to what I saw on the ground.
I'm posting a negative review, not to start a flame - but just to give some new guys another perspective. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.Mudpie,
There's some truth to what you have written, However C.R. is resonable in cost and relatively safe if you use common sense, and best of all, geographically convienent. I've not had the pleasure of Rio or Dom.Rep.
From what I've been told Rio is the greatest, Dom.Rep beats all, cost wise.
As an older traveller I can't tolerate flts of more than 3 hrs, Dom.Rep doesn't appeal to me, But I understand Columbia rates as a primo destination.
Sorry no flaming just honest discourse.
Flaco
I have been to Rio and it was definitely a GREAT trip. My trip to San Jose is in a month. At this point, I'm committed, so there is not backing out. I just hope I don't end up leaving CR with an overall negative impression. Keeping my fingers crossed.
Hey, sorry for not giving more details. However I don't think anyone's report can really 'blow mine out of the water' as my report is my experience. I wouldn't label myself a newbie in the scene. I just happen to think that the scene is CR is not so cool.
Professor 1
07-31-07, 21:29
I'd have to put Costa Rica at the very very lowest place on my list, and it's probably the only place I'd never even consider returning to.I am sorry that you had a bad experience. I had a great time, and would return. Non-aligned (Third World) nations are not for everyone, though. If you are not comfortable with the overall experience, it can be scary. I grew-up in a large, urban, working class area, so CR was O.K. for me.
Professor 1
07-31-07, 21:32
I guess my point in posting - was that some posters make CR sound like heaven, and it may be to them - but there is another side as well - it is not a beautiful city (Rio, BA) by any means - it is closer to a gutter (aesthetically), and for the money 'I think' more fun can be had with the girls just about anywhere (DR, Cuba, Argentiana, Brazil).While I respect your opinion, I must strongly disagree with your assessment. I have been to the favelas in Rio, and some are far worse than the most dangerous barrios in CR. I have been in poor sections elsewhere in the world, that make the CR gulch look like Indonesia.
Costa Rica is the bottom of the foodchain for mongers. Too many gringos runnign around acting stupid, the girls are all mercenaries and there is a lot of crime.
Costa Rica was good in the 90's, started going downhill around 2002......
I can walk almost anywhere in cartagena at night, where as one has to always be on the alert at night in the gulch. In fact the gulch is more dangerous than Cali and Medellin also....
Mr Jetsetter
08-01-07, 12:43
...In fact the gulch is more dangerous than Cali and Medellin also....
I kind of find this hard to believe, considering Colombia and South Africa run neck and neck for the honor of having the highest per capita murder rate in the world. According to one source I encountered, Colombia is the source of two-thirds of the world's kidnappings, although this claim was dated from year 2000. Yes, even veterans of the ISG Colombia board have also commented on potential dangers, particularly with regard to Cali. Let's not get carried away here!
BTW, I'm planning a trip to Medellin next year, and my good friend and boss loves Cartagena.
Jetsetter;
try walking from the Del Rey to the presidente at around midnight.
No problems like that at all in Cartagena and surprisingly on Avenida sexta at night in cali. Medellin can be dicey. but you always have to watch your ass in the gulch. Please there is no police presence in San jose, where in CTG, the police are everywhere, mainly to protect the tourists, hence there is no problem walking in Bocagrande or Laquito at night...........
While I respect your opinion, I must strongly disagree with your assessment. I have been to the favelas in Rio, and some are far worse than the most dangerous barrios in CR. I have been in poor sections elsewhere in the world, that make the CR gulch look like Indonesia.I totally don't want to get off on a 'I'm a badder John than you are' thing -
And I have to admit - I haven't been to Favelas in Rio for night mongering - I would question if any westerner has - did you mean you took the nice day tour? That was fun - yeah?
But let's see - I've been Vila Mimosa many times, been to the downtown brothels in Jamaica, been beaten in Vietnamese brothels in Cambodia, did the brothels in Calcutta, Surabaya and Managua, the rougher areas Phnom Penh.
So I 'may' know something about sh*t-poor places and brothel ghettos. I still say - taken as a whole San Jose by night is more sketchy than any other place I've been.
Hi guys...I'm a veteran monger living in Mexico for the last 7 years and I've been considering a mongering run to Costa Rica. Now, here is my question for those of you who have experience in both Mexico and Costa Rica: Will it be worth my time to go to the C.R.? Will the quality of service and price really be all the different than what I can find right here in Central Mexico?
Thanks guys,
Mill
Mill Just, What I'm going to write is going to sound contradictory, that PFP in San Jose is better than what I've experienced in Mexico. But I've read your reports on Morelia, and based on those I'd guess that you're not going to find much in San Jose that's an improvement FOR YOU. One exception -- in San Jose you'll have the opportunity to bang some very attractive chicas from places like Colombia, Venezuela and the Dominican Republic at $100 a pop. These women would cost $200-$250 in Guadalajara or Mexico City. Unfortunately, the most attractive women in San Jose on average will offer poorer service than what you're used to in Morelia. My experience in C.R. with service levels for women that aren't as attractive, both freelancers and in the massage parlors, is good though -- comparable to or better than Guadalajara (GDL) and border towns.
Regarding Central Mexico, I can best compare to Guadalajara (GDL). I've spent a lot of time in GDL, but never visited Morelia. San Jose is superior to GDL for PFP. Costs for women in San Jose are about 50% less than GDL. I already gave an example of prices for high dollar extranjeras. An hour at the better esteticas masculinas in GDL runs about $100, versus $40 at the better MP's in San Jose; looks and service are about the same. Also, San Jose is more user friendly. You don't have to run around all over town to check out the most popular options -- many are located in el centro. You don't have to stay up to 3:00 AM and spend a lot of money in strip clubs in order to bang a hottie.
If I were in your shoes, a fluent Spanish speaker with with the biggest little black book of hookers in Michoacan , I wouldn't go to C.R. just for the sex. But it would be worth a trip for the package -- sex, the volcanoes, the rain forest, beaches, etc.
Professor 1
08-02-07, 10:15
I totally don't want to get off on a 'I'm a badder John than you are' thing -
And I have to admit - I haven't been to Favelas in Rio for night mongering - I would question if any westerner has - did you mean you took the nice day tour? That was fun - yeah?No, while on leave from a university job, I went with a physician friend who had some work to do. I stayed very close. Growing up in a poor neighborhood in a large USA City was extremely helpful, as you can imagine. You learn what to do and what not to do, as well as not to "see" anything. It was far from night mongering. Now, I had someone meet me in Copa later, as it was made clear that I was not to return without a local.
Like I said, I respectfully disagree with you.
I went to Cartegna last year and loved it. I heard all that "your gonna get kidnapped, killed crap" . I walked all over and felt safer than I do here in the states. Just in a 1 month period in West Palm Beach we had 19 murders ! Go have fun, just keep your eyes open. There are more beautiful women than you can imagine.
I kind of find this hard to believe, considering Colombia and South Africa run neck and neck for the honor of having the highest per capita murder rate in the world. According to one source I encountered, Colombia is the source of two-thirds of the world's kidnappings, although this claim was dated from year 2000. Yes, even veterans of the ISG Colombia board have also commented on potential dangers, particularly with regard to Cali. Let's not get carried away here!
BTW, I'm planning a trip to Medellin next year, and my good friend and boss loves Cartagena.
Regulr Travlr
08-04-07, 07:43
i was fortunate enough to join ford and tbitd for a part of their trip to san jose. it was the first visit for both tbird and i. having experienced four days here, there is no doubt that this is a place for “effortless mongering.” the availability of the girls at all hours of the day was a real plus. the other plus was the close proximity of all the places. the complex around the del rey is very interesting and both the guys and the girls will make the circuit around the various bars. at the other end of town, around the zona blue and lipstick, are another concentration of clubs, mostly strip bars and massage parlors.
i have spent a lot of time in panama city and medellin and talked with other mongers who have been to san jose. the most common thing i heard was how much harder it was to find the action in these places. panama city has a walk around area where there are a lot of choices. but not the large volume of girls. medellin action is very rep001tered and requires a taxi ride.. the independent action is mostly streetwalkers or part timers that you need phone numbers for.
the other very positive thing, especially for newbie mongers, is the amount of english spoken by the girls, especially the ticas. some of them spoke extremely well, while most spoke enough to get through the transaction. of course, we witnessed numerous occasions of gringos yammering away at their life stories while the girls nodded their head rapidly with no idea of what was being said. even my meager spanish was appreciated by the girls.
there are a wide variety of types of girls here. a large number of ticas, dominicans, nicaraugans, panamanians and colombians. i decided to stay away from the colombians this trip, since i have plenty under my belt (literally). i ended up with a dominican, a nicaraguan, a half tica/half cuban and several pure ticas. the selection of ticas really varies. while there are many full time hard core pros, all 3 of us experienced ticas who had other jobs and/or did not live in san jose at all. bused in to make some extra money.
probably the biggest downside here is in the ability to find the gfe. i have better experiences with this in panama and medellin. that being said, i found two girls here who were absolutely wonderful, and two who were a lot of fun right up to the act, and then got very professional. the others kind of fell in between. many of the girls are very hard core and direct. following is an exact conversation with one blonde tica beauty.
her: hey baby what’s your name?
me: regular traveler, what’s yours?
her: carolina, where are you staying?
me: hotel europa
her: ok let’s go there.
although she was very good looking, i did not partake. she had no interest in continuing the conversation. she was clearly looking for volume. not all girls in the del rey complex are as aggressive. some will not talk to you until you initiate the contact. while others follow the mode above. one funny event occurred while the 3 of us stopped into the del rey for a late lunch on monday. (very good chicken sandwiches.) probably around 3 pm. this was a slow time for the girls and we became the center of attention. as ford put it, it was like moths around a porch light. the word got out and at one point there were at least 12 girls sitting around us watching us eat and waiting for us to finish. it is actually pretty disconcerting to look up after taking a bite of your sandwich and find a girl winking at you, smiling at you, waving or giving you some suggestive body language. it also feels pretty good.
as always the information on this board and pm’s from friends made the trip very easy. i am a big fan of the del rey and key largo complex. the other place we enjoyed during the day was zona blue. nice relaxing setting, good cigars and a good line up. both tbird and i partook here and commented on the massages. these girls knew what they were doing and it was a great lead up to the sex.
i will probably return for a brief stay in conjunction with another trip. combining this with panama is very easy, as i am doing now. but i would highly recommend this for any newbie or monger with limited spanish speaking ability.
spidermonkey – if you and tbird ever end up on the same trip, you will need to coordinate your actions or you will be bumping into him on the elevator all the time. he is the only one i have met who matches your volume and repeatability.
fantasy – it just was not the same without you.
here are a few pics of some of the girls i was with.
I look forward to our next trip. I hope it will be soon.
I had the honor of mongering together with Ford and Regulr Travlr, and would like to add my dos colones to the comparison between SJO and other Latin American destinations.
The city itself, in my opinion, is really not great. The sidewalks are in horrible shape, very narrow, the streets hopelessly clogged with traffic - in Bogota there are simply too many vehicles, here the streets are so narrow that two buses and a cab create a three-block pile-up. Having been to Medellin twice, where one really has to look hard to find a cigarette butt or an old wrapper on the sidewalk, I could not but notice how much garbage there is on the streets.
However, one of the girls invited me to a restaurant just outside the city, and it was a completely different story, beautiful, great food and music, very green surroundings.
I found the locals to be very friendly, and helpful. No problems at all. A few taxistas sitting outside the Del Rey wanted 4 times the normal amount for a ride back to our hotel, but were immediately dismissed, and we had no problem finding more reasonable rides.
The Del Rey itself is somewhat of a Campo Alegre experience for me, there is something for everyone there. My problem was who to choose...how to stop staring at yet another blonde Tica with D-cups and focus on what matters - attitude and GFE potential.
Mudpie did describe the majority of the mongers inside the Del Rey very well. I still fail to comprehend why someone would choose to look like crap, and behave like a drunk frat boy.
I consider myself a semi-experienced monger, and on every trip have benefitted from being nice to the girls, clean, and dressed in something other than dirty shorts and flip-flops..but hey, that's just me!
Dodger Bulldog
08-05-07, 04:09
Mudpie did describe the majority of the mongers inside the Del Rey very well. I still fail to comprehend why someone would choose to look like crap, and behave like a drunk frat boy.Good report, T-Bird. I think your observations are very accurate. Although I don't get to the the suburbs often, they are surprisingly clean and modern.
Thank god for all those "drunk frat boy" gringos at the HDR. They make it easy for anyone else to look pretty good in comparison.
All one has to do is make himself presentable, treat the chicas well, take an interest in their lives. And maybe make at least some effort at Spanish, showing a little respect for their culture.
Many of the chicas are not stupid. They can spot this a mile away. Plus, on the Tica network the word spreads quickly.
Suddenly, you are the one who becomes "the prize," which entirely changes the way the game plays itself out.
DB
I don't think that most "Gringos" realize that in most Latin countries, (likely all)shorts are not proper attire for an adult male, only children wear shorts.
Good report, T-Bird. I think your observations are very accurate. Although I don't get to the the suburbs often, they are surprisingly clean and modern.
Thank god for all those "drunk frat boy" gringos at the HDR. They make it easy for anyone else to look pretty good in comparison.
All one has to do is make himself presentable, treat the chicas well, take an interest in their lives. And maybe make at least some effort at Spanish, showing a little respect for their culture.
Many of the chicas are not stupid. They can spot this a mile away. Plus, on the Tica network the word spreads quickly.
Suddenly, you are the one who becomes "the prize," which entirely changes the way the game plays itself out.
DB
Many of the chicas are not stupid. T
DB
Exactly. Just for the record, along our mongering path we discovered (in HDR and other places as well)
- a licensed Spanish/English/German translator
- a girl who drives her own cab
- a girl who actually owns a full-size semi and runs a trucking business with her family
- and many girls who are real amateurs, have jobs outside the HDR and pop in there once or twice a week.
But if you are drunk out of your mind, do not speak Spanish, and your biggest achievement of the night is the 15 beers you downed before throwing up on the sidewalk, you will never know that... LOL
My awesome trip to SJO occurred from 7/6-7/18. Here is what I learned.
Airport pickup: Interbus (www.interbusonline.com) is awesome for airport pickup. $6 from the terminal to any hotel in SJO. There will probably be a couple other passengers with you, but that was fine by me. Bus was clean and spacious, driver waited near the terminal door with my name on a sign.
Exchange Rate: If you are changing cash, go to Banco de Costa Rica (BCR). I went to the one on the second floor of the INS building. I got at least 10 colones more there than anywhere else. Very, very secure.
Sportsmans Lodge v El Presidente: I split my time between both places. I wanted a semi-bargain room.
El Presidente. $45/nt + tax with CRT, 7th floor room at the end of the hall, queen size bed and bathroom in room. Gym, sauna. Wireless internet in the room was very strong. Free breakfast buffet was great, hot and cold foods, eggs made to order. You can buy your exit visa here, one less thing to do at the airport. This hotel had a lot of security throughout. The dress code rule is great. Most girls from DR have pants somewhere they change into. The ones that cannot make the dress code are probably banned from there anyways, since the dress code is nothing new.
Sportsmans Lodge. $49/nt + tax w CRT, queen size bed with shared bathroom. Wireless internet great in cafe, horrible in my side of hotel. Fruits and juice for breakfast buffet. Restaraunt food was good, I usually ate dinner here. Security is strong here also, no concerns. Some very beautiful working girls here, just wish it was more routine as there were times when no one was there for hours! Bill is always great and bends over backwards to make sure everyone is having a great time.
Zona Blue, New Fantasy, Pantera Rosa, Molino Rojo: Some people love NF, but i just couldnt get into this place. No alcohol on site, i had 2 colombian girls here who were very mechanical.
At ZB, you can interact with the girls first, buy them drinks, etc. Bartenders here were my most favorite in CR. Had an awesome time with a cute Colombian girl here named Jessica, was a real sweet GFE and her young voice in itself got me excited. Missed out on Pamela, she is always the busiest girl here, but her sister Lorena was awesome, definately my favorita. A hot cuban girl (whose name escapes me) rounds out my fav list. Alaska was my one down point, very mechanical, never made eye contact, made me feel like she would be on the phone texting while doing me if I let her. Otherwise, an awesome place.
At Bar Idem, the place lends itself well to a guy. You usually only buy at most one drink and then up to the room. Every girl I have ever had here has been awesome to me and her performance memorable, even if their name isn't so memorable.
At Pantera Rosa, they never seemed to get that busy, i usually took the free drink and left.
Molino Rojo is a dive place, meant more for ticos. Drinks are very cheap, it is very dark here. Girls are definately lower end, but there are a few cuties if you wait long enough and scout hard enough. For $8 for the room and girl, I really liked this place. Word of advice: GO TO THE BATHROOM BEFORE you come here, and by that I mean take a dump somewhere else. It was the dirtiest toilet here, and no toilet paper makes for an unhappy time!
Strip Clubs: Atlantis is definately expensive and not worth it. Girl drinks are $20 and up, but every woman in here is hot. My strategy walking in was to tell the waiter "I'll signal you when i want a girl of my choosing, until then just bring me my drinks." Never had a problem with that afterward. DO NOT GET DANCES HERE! $20 a song or 3 for $50, its only topless and though the door is closed, it only stays that way temporairly. The mamsans keep sticking their head in every couple of minutes to make sure that you and her aren't doing anything extra. You can get a number here to meet with one of these beauties later, but expect to pay trophy-girl prices.
Kamur. I like this place, the girl drinks are a little bit pricey, but what they do to you on the sofa more than makes up for it. However, feel free to tell the waiter that you will signal him when u are ready for another girl drink, otherwise they will push them all night long. $75 gets u a girl and a room for a half-hour. Some definite beauties in this place, but I just couldn't bring myself to pay this price for so short a time.
Some others to mention are Club Alcasar which has some sexy women @ great rates. Wasn't too impressed with Tango India, though I cant put my finger on why right now.
Discos. Really like El Pueblo, which is where the regular ticas go to have fun. Its a small gated area with bars, Ticos are patted down first. The main discotec needs to learn the term: CAPACITY, for there were way too many people in here that it was impossible to move! The other bars in El Pueblo made up for it.
Wingmen of Merit: I wish I could remember the screennames of everyone who qualifies as a Wingman of Merit. If I mention your name, send me via PM your screenname and I will edit it. BK Tuna is always awesome, I wish I could have spent more time with him. Haywood Jablommi was definitely someone who knew who to conquer his territory. Mark and Jasperhup were my primary wingmen on this trip, and every bar we went to was great just because these guys know how to party, have fun, and always were up for a change of scenery.
Leidy. There is one woman who deserves her own category. A tica who looks like Salma Hayek, she is the most down to earth, great girl to be around and to be with. She is a girl I really do trust in CR. She returned from Panama on my very last nite in SJO, and we made up for lost time. I actually considered staying a few more days but had to get back to the US.
If anyone has any questions, feel free to post and Ill respond. HOOAH!
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Thanks for the kind words from my travel mates - Reg Trav and Tbird!
Just back from SJO, and I found it to be largely what it was in my previous two trips in 2004 and 2005. You have some top-notch quality making their appearance at the Del Rey/Blue Marlin/Key Largo nightly and whether you are able to speak Spanish or not - getting laid down there is ....oh....a bit like "fishing in a barrell!" :D
(or whatever other cliche you want to insert here)
Two minor points. On this trip I was amazed to find that at the Del Rey I wasn't even asked once for more than 50,000 colones ($100) Not even asked!
Now I realize that I am largely fluent in Spanish and I certainly don't give the girls the sense that I'm a newbie - but the prices all started at $100 for an hour and then I was able to "up" the time (often to 3 hours) and chop down the price to 40,000 Col ($80) and as a result I found SJO to be a much more economical getaway in 2007 than it had been in the past.
I'm not sure exactly what to attribute this too. Maybe its the ever increasing pressure from PTY (Panama) as a monger destination or maybe its the fact that more and more Americanos are venturing to the "motherland" Colombia in ever increasing numbers. Whatever it is, prices actually seem to be dropping.
The other point was related to something that happened on my last night (after Tbird and Reg Trav were already horizontal with their dates and I found myself solo at the Del Rey) Guys, the girls that work at the Del Rey and Blue Marlin don't speak English! Some ticas have some ability, but as a general rule - you're going to have to be able to speak Spanish.
It absolutely cracked me up how many drunk (and sometimes not so drunk) Americans were having these long-winded engrossing conversations with Colombian working girls around the bar [in English] and the girls just nodded their heads, and contorted their faces into various expressions in unison with the tone of the words or in correlation to the corresponding expression on the guys face as he talked - but with absolutely no understanding with what was being said! (lol) :D
(Its similar to what your puppy does when he wants a dog treat or wants to be taken out)
I ran across a few "newbies" at the bar whom I helped with translations. They claimed that they read on the internet that it was a prerequisite that for a girl to work at the Del Rey she had to have "a working understanding of English"
I don't know what board they've been reading, but it sure isn't this one.
Thanks to Reg Trav and Tbird for a nice trip and "hey Fantasy, all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy!" :rolleyes:
.............see y'all down the line
Professor 1
08-06-07, 05:49
I ran across a few "newbies" at the bar whom I helped with translations. They claimed that they read on the internet that it was a prerequisite that for a girl to work at the Del Rey she had to have "a working understanding of English"The only requirement is the ability to count money. Such is the universal requirement in commerce. I agree with you regarding Spanish. It helped me greatly, as I "dated" a girl who spoke no English, but we could communicate in Spanish.
Are very easy to explain. The higher end girls have heard how much they can make at the Mansion in MDE. They are flocking there
And what did I find? San Jose is alive and kicking with beautiful woman!
My friends and I arrived on Wednesday around 12:30. A quick taxi ride into the city ($22 for the van taxi) for all three of us. (never understood why people try and cheap their way into the city? )
Arrived at the Morazan (wingman made the reservations, damn him) and checked in. Richey the Main man in the lobby, VERY helpful with ANYTHING you need. He is on top of his game. The rooms were to say the least small. But mine was clean.
After a quick unpack it is off to the HDR. After reading many many posts I was afraid that the action here ahd changed since my last visit in 05'. I have read many many posts which trash the action here, the quality of the girls and the pricing through the ceiling.
We walked throught the doors of heaven only to be met by a J'Lo look alike! Absolutley beautiful! Shouldering my two wingmen aside I swooped in like a fighter ace to make the kill. Only to be smashed on the rocks of reality. $500 for 6 hours! Bruised and battered I made my way to the table for some liquid first aid. Was it true? Were we being priced out of the market?
Sitting at the back bar recovering from the attempted mugging I spy a bonita sitting by the window. A little conversation and out the door with her for $100. BBBJ. Dos Leches. Foto. Dos ahoras. Now I know some of you are rolling your eyes with me paying cien. But I look at it this way it is $50 per hour and I get what I want. This tica, Joanna, was fantastic! Total GFE. I had brought along some vibrators and she jumped at it. She is somewhat of a gusher. Or leaker maybe is a better word but definitley leche'the twice. So I was happy and she was happy. Busted two nuts, GFE, and fotos. Does it get better than this? . YES it does!
Back to the HDR after a shower I spot my wingmen sitting wide eyed and wanting. $20 Bill hooks up and out the door with someones Mom? I don't understand it but it is him not me. Friend #2 is ready to blow so he latched onto a mistake and out the door. So while they are gone I make the rounds and there is J'lo again. Not to be denied, I circle and go in for the kill. Now I just busted twice so I know I ahve at least one more in the chamber, and I could use a good massage so I go for the same deal I just had with Joanna. STRIKE 2! This chica is a tough nut to crack. No negotiating AT ALL! And to make matters worse. Another guy I know, veteran monger rich bastard, swoops in and pays her AND her friend and off they go. I am down but not out!
My friends return with similar results as mine. $$ and experience. Later inthe evening I went off to NF for a look see. They have remodeled since my last visit. Much cleaner this time. I hooked with a colombiana, Zully, great massage, BBBJ, and reverse cowboy finish. Nice ($40).
Back to HDR. The palce was packed with chicas, nicas and ticas. Beautiful, busty, leggy, HOT. Now there were some lower level girls (15%) and some very high end girls (10%) and the majority were solid 8's and up depending on your personal preferences. Hair, legs, boobs, ass, etc etc. But make NO mistake about it. These girls are smoking! If you can't nut here you might as well cash in your chips.
Day 2: I run into a fellow monger (SPUR) and we begin talking about the posts here and the possible conspiracy being perpetrated by members of this board. By post negative reports are some trying to drive people away? Reporting outlandish pricing demands by the ticas? The lack of quality chicas and nicas? WE are very suspect at the motives behind these bad reports.
After a late dinner it was off to bed. BED sucked. Traffic and noise all night, little sleep.
Me vs. J'lo III: This just does not go good for me. However I meet Giselle and all is forgotten. I go with my standard, if they ask for CIEN I counter with the 2 hours, fotos, BBBJ. And she accepts. FANTASTIC gfe. I am feeling froggy with three winners under my belt. My buddies are NOT having as much luck. They are getting the same deals, just not the same experience. They are not choosing wisely.
NF for a night cap nut and I hit pay dirt again! ($40) Adriana, nica, WOW.
In the evening I spent alot of time interacting with other guests, people watching (tica watching) and laughing. Great atmosphere, good times.
Friday brings the Clash of the titans. J'lo vs. Me IV. I am persistant none less. Lets just say I went down like JFK.
So my wingman hits up with a cute little blond, 18, and off he goes. Says it was great, $75. $20 Bill has decided to slum this trip and again picks up someones Mom. But he is gone the rest of the night! So after my defeat at the hands of J'lo the great I slink around the corner and bump into Jennifer, 19, SMOKING! A little chatting. A drink. Boom out the door, again $50 an hour. And everything I want. Screw J'lo. She can't be better than this one. GFE lives! This tica was awesome. BBBJ, Fotos (she got into posing) and I break out the pocket missile (a different one) and she goes to town on her self. WOW. Fantastic doggy and cowboy. BAM dos leches.
So we are late into the night of day 3. $20 Bill still is AWOL with mommasita so my WM and I hang for a while watching and waiting for the perfect one. His arrives in the person of a cute blond colombiana and her friend. Being the Wingman that I am I tell him that I will take one for the team, no matter the price, so that he may make his dream come true. She was HOT! So I get with Valeska, cute, blondish hair, smaller titties that I prefer, but a great ass and lips. Back at the Morazan we enter the room and I shut the door and I am met by the tazmanian sex machine! BBBJ at he door. NUT. Stumble to the shower. Great wash job. Intot he bed. This girl was only about 4'08" I am 6'02". She was able to place her feet flat on my chest whilst I drilled her top the bottom. Again WOW! ($80)
I will post pictures and the rest of my trip post later. But you conspiracy members have been exposed! Tell them SPUR!
The Panda
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Ok so now it is Saturday, Last night was great, tons of chicas, ticas, and nicas. Late to bed and up early (damn noise) Had breakfast at the Key Largo everyday. Food was really good, lunch and dinner at the HDR via Key Largo. No bad experiences with the food.
Spent the day shopping and walking the town, no problems. The guy in the room next to me got robbed. He rented a car and they punctured his tire at a red light, then motioned him to turn in as his tire was flat. When he got out to look at the tire one of them grabbed his back pack from the car and they scooted. He said he saw it coming and still got taken. Be careful out there. The bums were also a little thick this trip begging for coins everytime you left the HDR.
Saturday evening. Not as many as last night. Still a great selection. I hooked up with good one at NF to get my pipes cleaned then headed back to HDR. My wingman now has a novia! The one from last night hooked up with him again gratis. He was done for the remainder of the trip. She was with him sat and sun night freebie! Lucky bastard. So I am hanging with $20 Bill and he reveals to me that he has hooked up todos la noche with his same girl everynight for (you guessed it) $20. Guess she needed a place to sleep while in town working and he needed good BBBJ's before he went to sleep every night. She was not a looker but the price was right, besides $20 Bill has low standards. There I am sitting and waiting for the next opportunity. In walks a colombiana with perfect boobs and a nice smile, round butt and a thin waist. I'm DONE FOR! She won't get off the $100 and won't negotiate for more time! No foto's either. After a drink I gotta have her, so I offer $60 for a BBBJ. She counters with $75. Buyer beware! (Adriana I tihnk) So I cave like a cheap tent and it is off to the Morazan. All cuddly and kissy. Until we got to the room. This girl couldn't suck milk through a straw! Worse BJ I have ever gotten in CR. And with the exception of one worse in the states it was the worse ever. Wound up nutting on her titties. There would be NO repeat business from me. I had such high hopes from everything I had read about colombianas and BBBJ.
So back I go to the HDR. It is now around 12:30 and the party is still going. Hello, Tatiana, tall, dark, great smile, big boobs, awesome butt and a great attitude. We had some drinks and some laughs and during our conversation I told her about my disappointment with colombian women. She then tells me that SHE is Colombiana and she can't have me thinking bad about woman from her country! $$$ standard deal for me. Off we go. This is a true woman, great curves, soft yet firm, fantastic boobs. Long long black hair, and large brown eyes. Well she put it on me like a coffee stain on a white shirt. WOW. While I have always been partial to Nicas tatiana has changed my mind. Killer BBBJ, she blew me from the knees to the tip, dipped me, and russianed me. It was fabuloso. Finished with a nut to the titties which I think is always a nice touch. After a coke and a smile she was back at me. GFE with an attitude! Smothered me, massaged me, and made love to me (or faked really good) had me finish doggie and begged for me to wait for her. Can't fake that amount of natural lube and it sent me to the point of no return. After a few recooperation minutes she pulled me into the shower and did me up. This was a 10 for sure!
Sunday arrives. I finally got a good nights sleep thanks to Tatiana. I get to HDR around 12, Rosa is sitting at the front bar looking all hot and bored. Now I usually go to NF to get my pipes cleaned in the morning so I am not hunting with a loaded gun so to speak. Well that went out the window. $60/no foto/1 hour. Off we go. A nice experience, good attitude, good sex. Very pretty. Lunch back at HDR. $20 Bill is complaining that I am getting all the HOT women and the good picks so he asks me to hook him up. I find a Colombiana, extremely fit, tall, great smile. I had been meaning to do her, but had not good timing with her, she has a home made tat on her right arm S. The. Very fresh look to her, fantastic boobs and FIT! So she take $20 Bill fro 75 fro the hour. He is gone two. Seems he blew early and for an extra 25 she stayed and did him again. He says it was his best! I believe himn as I am usually good at picking the right ones and she just had the LOOK of a winner. Sorry I missed out.
Off to NF for a quickie, my next will be my last here and I want a good one to send me on my way. 11:00 p. M. I am sitting with some guys in the front bar weighing the options of two chicas. Bam they are both scooped up before I make my move! Darn the luck. But this is the HDR ad redemption is only minutes away. Here comes the final act, Margie, colombiana, tight, firm, great boobs, big eyes and smile. I was afraid she might be a little chubby and the jeans are holding it all in. But when we get to the Morazan she reveals that not be the case. Hard body, you can crack walnuts on her ass. BBBJ was great. Then she postions herself in front of the mirror on all fours and tells me to fuck her good. I obliged.
So this is the end of my trip. Sorry if some of you are not having like results. As I stated earlier, and Spur agrees, that maybe some are posting bad reports to keep people away and keep this treasure to themselves. I say go forth and conquer!
Picks later
The Panda
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Your observations = CLASSIC . . . as usual!
Thanks for the kind words from my travel mates - Reg Trav and Tbird!
. . . On this trip I was amazed to find that at the Del Rey I wasn't even asked once for more than 50,000 colones ($100) Not even asked!
It absolutely cracked me up how many drunk (and sometimes not so drunk) Americans were having these long-winded engrossing conversations with Colombian working girls around the bar [in English] and the girls just nodded their heads, and contorted their faces into various expressions in unison with the tone of the words or in correlation to the corresponding expression on the guys face as he talked - but with absolutely no understanding with what was being said! (lol) :D
.............see y'all down the line
Personally, I have not been to SJO but your reporting give me hope. Medellin is not really cheaper (from the pricing you stated) so I am now thinking of finally checking out the infamous Del Rey and Blue Marlin.
I just wish you can make it easier to match your photos in the Gallley Section to your trip report.
Thanks for sharing.
Soundz like a good lunch date to me :D Thanks for including your pics. Though it is hard to tell how they look like out of their clothes ... girl#...937 and girl#...939 look GOOD to me!
Thanks for sharing. Maybe I'll join you there next year.
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One funny event occurred while the 3 of us stopped into the Del Rey for a late lunch on Monday. (Very good chicken sandwiches.) Probably around 3 PM. This was a slow time for the girls and we became the center of attention. As Ford put it, it was like moths around a porch light. The word got out and at one point there were at least 12 girls sitting around us watching us eat and waiting for us to finish. It is actually pretty disconcerting to look up after taking a bite of your sandwich and find a girl winking at you, smiling at you, waving or giving you some suggestive body language. It also feels pretty good.
As always the information on this board and PM’s from friends made the trip very easy. I am a big fan of the Del Rey and Key Largo complex. The other place we enjoyed during the day was Zona Blue. Nice relaxing setting, good cigars and a good line up. Both Tbird and I partook here and commented on the massages. These girls knew what they were doing and it was a great lead up to the sex.
Here are a few pics of some of the girls I was with.
Buster Lovedog
08-09-07, 06:13
I hear you Bulldog. Did you ever see her again? Some of these girls are like poison. Wonderful - but that's the poison.
That kind of thing has happened to me more than once.
Isn't there some way we can make this reality instead of the fantasy actresses they are?
I recant all previous testimony. Stay away from the Hotel Del Rey and that demon Blue Marlin Lounge.
For my report on my final chica CR, I have only a sad tale to tell. One filled with of grief and woe.
I am such a stupid.
I ended up catching a bad case of one-itis. At my advanced age I should know better, as it can be very debilitating. Nonetheless, once I had hooked up with Maria I just couldn't get enough of her.
Over the next couple days she drained everything I had right out of me - my money, my semen, and all my common sense.
The first time she came home with me she was enamored with the regalos I had brought for all the chicas. She stuffed everything that was left into her purse - a half dozen bottles of nail polish, several tubes of body glitter, the eyeliners, the perfumes, the toothbrushes, even all of the coloring books.
She doesn't even have any niños. What the hell was she going to do with the coloring books?
"See? I take these so you have nothing left to give to the others. Now you can be only with me."
I went down for the count without so much as a whimper. My eyes were glazed over. I had kind of a hypnotized zombie look on my face, drooling and nodding, mumbling my consent.
Clearly, I had entered the greatest danger zone known under the Monger Security Advisory System.
Current Threat Level: Red - Under Attack!
I have never been with a woman who is 6" tall before. Do you still call a woman a "spinner" when she stares down at you from on high?
Plus, she has the razor-sharp hips and the abdominal cavity of my dreams. (See the fifth and sixth photos below)
Maria is pretty naive for a 22 year old, but very trusting and coachable and willing to do anything I asked of her. After I taught her the power of the Pocket Rocket she became insatiable. (See smile on face in the seventh photo)
It was a raining outside, so we spent the day having some indoor fun together.
I set up an email account and a MySpace page for her so that we can keep in touch.
She showed me photos of her parents, her little brother, her sister and herself when they were little girls. She even gave me a photo from one of her modeling jobs. (See the one where she is standing in front of the volcano)
We listened to music and played hangman in Spanish. We taught each other some new words. We had a staring contest, held several "thumb wars," and tickled each other silly.
We played hide and seek. I enjoyed hiding all of my favorite things up her ass.
Then she had to go to her class. So I rested for two hours, with plans to meet her later for dinner.
Can this girl ever eat!
I never saw a such a slender young thing pack down so much food. It is like she never ate before she met me. And everything she wanted was expensive - shrimp, lobster, pastel de tres leches, Red Bull, etc.
And when we got back home, she wiped out all of the chocolates I brought to treat the chicas, and devoured a bag of Oreos that she scared up from a kitchen cabinet.
I guess I am the naive one, not her. She sure knew how to play me.
Can this girl ever sleep!
Twelve hours she slept. Fully twelve hours. So I spent the night with those long legs wrapped around me and my hands hanging onto those razor sharp hips for dear life. I kept my nose buried into her long, lean torso so that I could lick those adorable abs while Maria gently snored away.
And one more thing:
Can this girl ever fuck!
Okay, maybe you can understand that when my tongue was stuck up her ass how I could go brain dead and lose all touch with reality. I have a reasonable excuse for spacing off my flight back to the States.
I completely forgot which night I was supposed to leave.
But what about my buddy? He was just shit-faced on vodka. What good is a wingman if he can't even get you to the airport on the right day?
When we showed up on the next night the airline people just smiled, as they knew they had us by the balls. If you count what they dinged me for a new one-way ticket home, Maria turned out to be a very expensive chica indeed.
Mother's don't let your babies grow up to be mongers...
DB
Maria is a true chameleon, a chica with many looks and faces, and I love every one of them. You can see more of them on the photo thread:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=620929&postcount=1061
Dodger Bulldog
08-09-07, 22:14
I hear you Bulldog. Did you ever see her again? No, it was my last day there.
But we are emailing, and we added each other as friends on our Hi5 pages. She posted some of the photos I took of her on there, including the one of her in the Dodger t-shirt.
So we'll have to see if anything more comes of it.
DB
Some of you asked I label the pictures as it was difficult to put the girl with the post, Sorry, so I have updated a post on the photo page to identify the girls.
I recently completed a 9-day trip to Central America, 4 days in El Salvador and 5 in Costa Rica, San Jose to be more precise, and at Sportsmen's Lodge to be even more precise. Purpose of the trip: mongering, and nothing else. I am a veteran Rio monger, but right now Rio has become too expensive for my tastes because of the decline of the dollar, so I'm more or less forced to seek alternatives. In 2006 I visited all 7 Central American countries and decided that ES and CR were the 2 best mongering spots. Hence, I decided that a return trip to both of these mongering havens was in order to alleviate the horniness that is an inevitable result of living in sex prison. I've already reported on ES, so this will be my CR report.
Anyone reading this report expecting to find new mongering spots will be disappointed. I never looked for chicas outside of SL--intentionally. Yes, I know all about Blue Marlin and in fact picked up someone there on my last trip, as well as Zona Blue and the other mongering spots. However, just as I went only to Kiss Fresh in San Salvador and didn't look anywhere else, so it was with SL in San Jose. Why? Well, that's just me. If I can get all the pussy I want without even leaving my hotel, then why do so? I'd rather expend my energy on fucking. Maybe I'm just lazy, but for 5 days I only left SL twice, both times to have lunch around the corner at Cafe Mundo, an upscale Italian restaurant. (One of these times was with a chica, about which more below.) Other than that, I had all my meals at SL. I didn't take a single taxi while I was there. This may not be everyone's way to monger, but it works for me.
The first chica I met was Marcela, who I just happened to sit next to at the bar. At first glance she seemed totally out of place among the girls who hang around SL. First of all, she was older, probably 40+. Now this is fine with me, both because I'm a geezer myself and because I like MILFs, but it might turn off some younger mongers. Secondly, she's a bit overweight, but I like women with meat on their bones. Third, she is short, but her heftiness keeps he from qualifying as a spinner. However, she does have a very pretty face. Now given all the choice morsels around SL, I normally wouldn't have given Marcela a second look. However, I just happened to be sitting next to her at the bar and struck up a conversation. In short order she asked me if I wanted a massage. She told me she is a professional masseuse, and she pulled out a license from her purse to prove it. Cost of a massage: $40. Cost for "complete," including massage: $100. Well, I needed a massage after traveling that day, so I agreed. I had not yet taken a Viagra, so I popped one into my mouth just then and told her I would agree to her price if the massage lasted an hour before "sexo." She agreed. We went back to my room and both got nude for the massage. She was as good as her word. I was convinced that she really was a massage professional. The massage was as good as any I've ever had, and she took her time. I had a lot of tension and soreness in my back. She pressed with her thumbs and the heel of her hand exactly where I told her and did indeed get rid of a lot of the tension. So she is worth experiencing for the massage alone.
After the massage, sexo. I was a little disappointed that she wasn't a very good kisser; very little tongue. I sucked her ample breasts, then performed DATY and used the Pocket Rocket on her. She had previously agreed to BBBJ, but she wasn't very good at it, just nibbled and licked with the tip of her tongue around the head. It was only after she put the condom on me that she took the full shaft into her mouth; she then did a pretty good CBJ and got me rock hard. I then mounted her in mish. She started moving her hips in response to my thrusts, and we got a good rhythm going until I exploded inside her. When we were saying goodbye I told her I wouldn't be seeing her again, and I told her why, because of her poor kissing and her poor BBBJ. Bottom line: I would recommend Marcela for a massage, but you can find much better sexual partners.
The next day I got together with Raquel from Nicaragua. There are 2 girls who hang around SL named Raquel, one from Nicaragua and one from CR, so let's call them Nica Raquel and Tica Raquel for short. I had fucked Tica Raquel on my last trip, so I came to CR this time hoping she would still be at SL. However, I soon ran into Nica Raquel, who is Tica Raquel's friend. Nica Raquel remembered me from last time, although we hadn't had sex, and she told me that Tica Raquel would be there tomorrow. I remembered Nica Raquel, although she has gained a lot of weight in 16 months. She is 27 and a pretty good conversationalist. She told me that she just had a baby, her third child, a month ago. I thought to myself, I hope this doesn't mean she has a loose pussy, but I asked her if she wanted to go back to my room. She agreed, of course. She turned out to be an excellent sex partner. She now has a body that could be called Rubensesque, or full figured. She puts a lot of enthusiasm and gusto into what she does. She is an excellent kisser and thrust her tongue deep into my mouth, rolled it around, intertwining with mine. I performed DATY and used the PR on her, which she enthusiastically responded to. She then gave me a very skillful BBBJ, getting me rock hard, after which I mounted her in mish. When I entered her I found that my fears were realized; her pussy was still loose from her recent childbirth. This just meant that I had to thrust all the harder and deeper to achieve the requisite friction. What the hell, it was a better fuck as a result. By the time I exploded inside her I was exhausted. I rolled off of her covered with sweat, and we just lay there panting. I told her that I wanted to see her again, but that first I wanted to go with Tica Raquel. We had not discussed price before, so I gave her $80. I recommend Nica Raquel very highly as a sex partner.
Next day, Tica Raquel showed up. She pretended to remember her from last time, but I could tell that she really didn't. I showed her the photo I had taken of her last time. Tica Raquel is probably one of the most attractive girls at SL, and she looked even better than last time because she has lost some weight. 27 years old. Unfortunately, her personality has also changed in 16 months--for the worse. Whereas before she was friendly, bubbly, and enthusiastic, now she has become hardened and more commercial. We went to my room and after we disrobed I stood admiring her gorgeous body and her pretty and sexy face. When we got into bed I was shocked when she refused to DFK. I asked her why she had changed, because I distinctly remember that she DFKed when we were together before. She denied that she ever DFKed, but I know that she did. MAJOR strike against her. She also woundn't allow any fingers in her pussy. She did allow DATY, then a good BBBJ and CFS, first mish then RCG. Her performance was good but mechanical. She seemed detached, as if her mind was somewhere else. I probably wouldn't have been so disappointed if I hadn't had such fond memories of our last encounter. Sometimes memories are best left as memories. I gave her $60. She thanked me and asked if she could have a propina. I grudgingly gave her $10 for old times sake. I told her that next time if she wants a propina she would have to kiss.
As Tica Raquel and I came out of my room and were making our way back to the atrium area, we ran into Nica Raquel, who smiled at us because she knew exactly what we had been doing. She asked me if I wanted to go with her now. I told her that I couldn't perform now, but that I would like to see her the next day and spend some time with her. We agreed to meet the next afternoon at 1:00 PM.
Next day I was in my room when the phone rang at about 12:40. It was Nica Raquel asking if we could postpone our meeting until 2:00. I said okay, thinking she had been held up. So I decided to go to the bar and have some lunch. On my way to the bar, who did I see in the atrium area talking to some guy but Nica Raquel. A few minutes later she came over to talk to me while I was eating lunch, and I told her that it had dawned on me that the reason she had postponed our meeting was because she wanted to squeeze somebody else in before me! She smiled and admitted this was true, then walked away saying she would see me at 2. I was a little pissed at this, i.e., being pushed back so she could squeeze in another guy. I mean, why couldn't she see him after she had finished with me? I also wasn't crazy about the idea of having sex with her RIGHT AFTER she had been with another guy--sloppy seconds and all that. Just then I saw her going to the rooms in the back with the other guy. So I decided that if I did keep my appointment with her I would have her take a shower before we screwed.
I went back into the atrium area and started flirting with a 21 year old named Maile (pronounced MAY-lee). She was hot to go with me, and I was interested in her, so when Nica Raquel hadn't shown up by 2:20, I said to Maile, let's go back to my room. I was upfront with her about what had happened with Nica Raquel, and she told me that Nica Raquel was staying with a guy for 8 days, and that was who she was with now, i.e., her main squeeze. So I, and anyone else she happened to go with during the week, were the ones being squeezed in.
Anyway, on to Maile. Maile is pretty and has a gorgeous body, although she is a little plump. She is a passionate lover. Excellent kisser, prolonged DFK, DATY, BBBJ, then sex in mish, CG, and finally RCG, in which position I exploded. She loves to ride me in CG and slam her pussy into me so hard that my head was bouncing off the headboard in rhythm. Love it! I gave her $80 and told her I wanted to see her tomorrow for all afternoon, including lunch and dinner. We agreed in advance on $120 for the prolonged session. Somewhat later I ran into Nica Raquel, who apologized for standing me up. Her excuse was that it had taken the guy a long time to come. We agreed to meet that night at 7. She didn't show up.
That night I sessioned with Evelina, a 25 y/o spinner with long frizzled blonde hair. She has a good little body and a pretty face. Actually she looks like a young Jessica Lang. She was upfront with me that she had another appointment at 11 pm, so that made our meeting a little rushed. That was okay because I had a great time with her. DFK, DATY, BBBJ, CFS in mish, CG, and RCG. For some reason, probably because I had been with Maile earlier, I wasn't able to come. SO she had me lie on my back, and she provided me with the best manual stimulation I have ever received in my life. She put some oil on her fingertips and just massaged the head of my dick slowly and gently. No stroking, no touching of the shaft, just massaging the head with her fingertips. I don't know why, but it drove me to ecstasy, and I eventually had an explosive orgasm. I want to experience Evelina again if I come back.
Next day Maile showed up at 1pm as planned. We fucked our brains out, then we went to Cafe Mundo for lunch. Big mistake! I had told her the day before not to wear her usual miniskirt, so she wore long pants and was dressed appropriately. However, she didn't have a clue as to what to order from the menu. She ended up ordering a chicken sandwich, probably because it was the only thing on the menu she recognized. We then walked back to SL and screwed some more. My original plan was to take her to Tin Jo, and upscale Asian restaurant downtown, for dinner, but when I saw that she couldn't handle an Italian menu, I knew that Asian would be way beyond her depth. So, I scratched that idea. By late afternoon I was about fucked out and wanted to get rid of her, so I told her she was free to go and paid her $120. Bottom line: Maile is a great sexual experience, but dumb as a doorknob. BTW, I related my experience at Cafe Mundo to one of the guys at the bar, and he gave me some excellent advice: if you want to take one of these girls out, take her to McDonalds or KFC. She will be as happy as if you had taken a more sophisticated girl to the Four Seasons.
So there you have it. Next day I flew back to the US. By the way, I took photos of all these ladies and will post them in the photo section as soon as I figure out how to downsize my photos.
A few final notes about SL, San Jose, and Costa Rica. There has been some exchange of opinion in recent posts as to CR's desirability as a mongering destination. My opinion is somewhere between those who put down CR and those who defend it staunchly. I was somewhat less impressed with San Jose as a mongering destination than I was the last time I was here. Much of that is due to the fact that on my previous visit I was here for the first time, so there was a bit of novelty. This time there was none, except for the novelty of finding new girls. San Jose is a total shithole, so there is nothing to do there, unless you like going to bars. Whatever decent restaurants there are can be found on a first visit. This is one of the reasons I hardly ever left SL. Leave to do what? I realize that others may differ, and that is certainly their right.
As to SL as a place to stay, it all depends on whether you want to go to various places for pussy or whether you want it right at your doorstep. I prefer the latter, which is why to me SL is like Fantasy Island. It is noisy until midnight when the bar closes, quiet after then. Most of the mongers staying there are CRT members, and they tend to be a cliquish lot. If you're not one of them, they tend to ignore you. However, I did manage to strike up a conversation with a few of them, and they are OK guys. But it will be up to you to break the ice. A few of them are loud mouthed louts, especially when they are drunk, but there is very little that can be done about that.
I'm not sure if I will be back to CR again. I prefer El salvador as a mongering spot. The quality of pussy there is just as good, as is the performance of the girls, and it is much cheaper. Moreover, I can stay at a 4 or 5 star hotel for not much more than I paid at SL. Moreover, there is a dearth of gringos. San Salvador isn't much more interesting than San Jose, but it isn't as much of a shithole, at least in the suburban areas, where most of the action is. There are wide boulevards and shopping malls with restaurants where you can get a decent meal. And who knows, sooner or later I may bite the bullet and go back to Rio. So my chances of going back to CR are 50/50. Time will tell.
Lorenzo
Well done and so true about san jose being a shithole and most of the CRT crowd being a bunch of slobs.... I am a CRT member, but I never ever meet up in groups. there are a few guys that are decent, but I tend to like things quiet and without all of the bullshit either......
Greeting Gentlemen
After several trips to S.E Asia and South America, I had the chance to visit Costa Rica when a friend invited me. I’m been lurking on this thread for many years and want to thank you all for the valuable information. We started our trip with a short stay in Jaco. There isn’t much action here except for the Beatle bar and a strip joint called Delfunio (sp?). We visited Beatle Bar a couple of time but didn’t really see anything worth while. Most ladies here were 5-6 and many were old. The strip club was kind of neat. A few good looking girls and they have booths where they do more than just lap dances if you know what I mean. However, the prices were high. It was $66 for half hour just for the room. Then the girls wanted $100. I decided to decline. But I did arrange for a dancer to meet me the next day. She had a great ass. After being in Thailand and Philippines so many times, it was nice to have a girl with some meat on her ass. Her performance was good but mechanical. She was a great way to start my Costa Rica adventure.
In San Jose, we stayed at the Hotel Del Rey. I’ve heard from this board that it makes for a great base for your first trip. This is very true. I had a great time staying here but would not stay here next time. The rooms are only OK. The hotel is very old and the age shows. The staff, however, did a great job at keeping the place clean. I’ve heard horror stories about the dirty comforters in hotel rooms. They are full of body fluids and are almost never changed. At this hotel, however, they change everything on the bed after you check out. They even have plastic linings inside the pillows in case the guys before you drool. I was very impressed by the degree of cleanliness in this hotel. The restaurant (across the street) was amazing. Everything I had was great. The room service in this hotel was straight from the restaurant.
The lobby of this hotel is straight out of a monger’s dream. I’ve been to Bangkok, Pattaya, Angeles City, Rio, Buenos Aires, Singapore, Kuala Lumpur and Shanghai. But I’ve never seen a venue like this. The entire lobby area and the bars are just loaded with beautiful women. They come in all shapes and sizes. It is literally the most amazing thing a monger can experience. And like S. America, they come in all shades. You can have a blue eyed blond or a dark African queen, with everything in between. But unlike Brazil or Argentina, they have a casino so you gamble as you chose your girl. In Rio, I always felt weird at the Termas because there was nothing to do except sit and be stared at by the girls. Here in Del Rey, you can sit back and relax while you shop.
The prices of the Del Rey girls have been discussed extensively here. I found that the more beautiful ones won’t budge from the $100 they quote. The lesser looking ones will lower their prices after negotiations. But in my experience, only older and uglier ones will lower their prices. Now, I know some of you are thinking that you got a great looking one for less than $100. I’m not saying you’re lying. You’re just better at negotiating than I am.
I ended up getting 2 girls from Del Rey; both were great but very professional and mechanical. But Latin women just love sex. So even when it is work, they do a great job. I’ve noticed that Latin women just love to be sexy. It is hard to not have a good experience with them. In Asia, I feel like the women allow you to fuck them. But in Latin American, the women allow you to be fucked by them. But both attitudes can be good with the right girl.
On day, I decided to try a massage place so I went to Zona Blue with my friend. We spotted the blond sisters, Laura and Pamela. I took Pamela and my friend took Laura. They told us they were sisters and bi-sexual. They even suggested a 4-some. But my friend and I didn’t really want to be in the same room so we declined. Pamela gave me a tremendous performance similar to what I experienced in Rio’s termas. Later that night, I couldn’t stop thinking about the sisters. The first thing I did the next day was go back to Zona Blue and get the sisters as a double. I’ve seen pictures of the girls on the net before. But I had no idea how much they liked to be photographed. They asked me if I had a camera before we started. I’ve never had a girl ask me to take photos before. That was a change. The 3-some was the best I’ve ever had. It was all PSE like Eden in Bangkok. Except these girls are way better looking and the passion felt real. In Eden they ate pussy like they had to; these two ate pussy like they wanted to. They went after each other like they’ve been in solitary confinement for a week. It felt a little weird knowing they’re sisters but I was having such a good time that quickly left my mind. My favorite part was sitting in a chair with both girls on their knees giving me a “BJ sandwich”. I’ve seen this in movies and have always wanted to try it. It was amazing to look down and see 4 blue eyes looking up at me and two tongues sliding on my cock. Whenever, one was blowing me, the other would lick my balls. Did I mention I had a great time with these two? During the session, they kept play fighting over who gets me. They kept saying, “Keep your hands off my boyfriend” and begging to be fucked when I was fucking the other one. They kept asking when I was going to stop fucking her sister and fuck her instead. During the session, I forgot about every problem I’ve ever had in life. You guys simply have to try these two as a double.
Overall, I liked Costa Rica but not as much as the other locations I mentioned. Asia is cheaper and South America has better looking women at the same price (except maybe Brazil, with the shitty exchange). But the proximity of Costa Rica to the US is very attractive. And Hotel Del Rey is a must see for all mongers, period. And of course, the sisters at Zona Blue was the best experience I’ve ever had while mongering. But there really isn’t much to in San Jose besides mongering. And the crime/safety issue is annoying. I’ve realized now that I’m about more than just mongering. In Thailand, I enjoy the food, culture and beautiful beaches. All these were missing in Costa Rica (Jaco beach was really gross). And South America has the most beautiful women I’ve ever seen. Having said that, Costa Rica is not at all bad. It is just that those other places are better. If they didn’t exist, Costa Rica would be heaven.
I hope you enjoyed my report.
Eggsalad
Regulr Travlr
08-13-07, 14:11
Greeting Gentlemen
The lobby of this hotel is straight out of a monger’s dream. I’ve been to Bangkok, Pattaya, Angeles City, Rio, Buenos Aires, Singapore, Kuala Lumpur and Shanghai. But I’ve never seen a venue like this. The entire lobby area and the bars are just loaded with beautiful women. They come in all shapes and sizes. It is literally the most amazing thing a monger can experience. And like S. America, they come in all shades. You can have a blue eyed blond or a dark African queen, with everything in between. But unlike Brazil or Argentina, they have a casino so you gamble as you chose your girl. In Rio, I always felt weird at the Termas because there was nothing to do except sit and be stared at by the girls. Here in Del Rey, you can sit back and relax while you shop.
Eggsalad
Nice report. Having just returned from my first visit as well, your description of HDR is right on. The other good part is that it is like this all day long. So if you have the urge for an afternoon delight it is no problem. Or if you need to go again late at night, no problem (Tbird).
Lorenzo - always enjoy your reports and your opinions. I stopped into the SL during my trip as it was a must see landmark. Did not get the impression that I would enjoy being here. Perhaps it was because of the concentration of boisterous CRT memebers and the small number of chicas available. But as you describe it, it can be an enjoyable spot.
Mr Jetsetter
08-14-07, 03:05
Eggsalad
Nice report, but it is grossly unfair and misleading to generalize the beaches of Costa Rica by what you experienced at Jaco. BTW, a long strand of very nice white sand beach can be found just 2 or 3 miles south of Jaco.
Although I am an avid scuba diver, I'm not a huge fan of lounging around on the beach, but I've seen some pretty nice beach areas in CR. I was impressed by the beaches in the Puerto Viejo/Cahuita area and points south along the Caribbean side of the country. My favorite experience was being dropped off along with a friend for an afternoon on a beautiful, DESERTED stretch of white sand beach about 10 miles south of Drake's Bay along the Pacific side of the Osa Peninsula. The beach was backed by dense green jungle full of monkeys and who knows what other creatures, and there was literally no one within miles of us. Simply spectacular.
Lethalsoul
08-14-07, 06:56
Hotel Delray Jan 2006
http://youtube.com/watch?v=G7POq1cpz7Q
Mr. Jetsetter
You are correct. I didn't mean to sound like all beaches in the country were dirty. In fact, I'm pretty sure I mentioned Jaco was the only beach I saw. I did hear about prettier beaches in CR. Unfortunately, I did not get to experience them.
Egg
Jaco beach right near the top, IF NOT THE TOP, of the worst beaches in CR.
Nice report Lorenzo. When I make my first trip to CR, I'll probably stay there.
Thanks!
Egg: For a first trip, sounds like you had a great time. Would you mind sharing with us the pics of the ZB sisters? How much was the price to do the double? I am expecting to make my first trip to San Jose sometime next spring. I hope the sisters will still be there.
Thanks in advance.
Glad I'm not in it. It would have been fun to watch them kick this guy's ass if he got caught with the camera.
Mr Jetsetter
08-20-07, 07:09
Almotu,
With the CRT discount, ladies at Zona Blue cost about $42 per hour, so a session with two of them will run about $84. If you'd like to see one of the sisters Egg dallied with, check out my photos of Pamela/Andrea on page 6 of the photo section. Pamela is the lovely blond lady who I enjoyed multiple threesomes with, and is quite possibly the most photographed Costa Rican provider in history.
In case you don't know, CRT stands for Costa Rica Ticas, and I highly recommend becoming a member, as the site is a great CR resource, and the discounts associated with membership will likely more than offset the cost of joining.
Member #2666
08-20-07, 15:50
Almotu,
With the CRT discount, ladies at Zona Blue cost about $42 per hour, so a session with two of them will run about $84. .
For the more budget minded you can get a 2 for 1 on Tuesdays at Pension Zafiro in Paseo Colon for 15,000 col for the pair for an hour
100 meters north and 25 meters east from KFC..in front of Super Bingo
222-0369
Almotu,. . . . Pamela is the lovely blond lady who I enjoyed multiple threesomes with, and is quite possibly the most photographed Costa Rican provider in history.Andrea is HOT! I wish I can see Pamela's eyes. Thanks for sharing the photos, though.
Last month I was at the SL and picked-up this totally cute little, tiny spinner named Ivania. She was average in looks but if you like tiny spinners she was great with the body. Up in the room she was absolutely rockin! I mean she did the deed like there was no tomorrow. She even said that she broke up with her old boyfriend because she wanted sex 3-4 times a day and he did not. Great story, even if it isn’t true! She was absolutely incredible in bed.
I am frequently at the SL but had never seen her before … or since. Do any of you guys know of Ivania? I even think Bill may know her?
Please PM me if any of you have run into Ivania, or better yet … if any of you have photos of her.
TGAM-nog
Is she blonde and does she have braces.
Nope
Brown hair down to her shoulders.
Skinny, great body, small breasts.
No braces.
anyone just back with a sim card to sell? i know they are extremely hard to come by without a receipt for a phone purchase there. CR is my first stop in a central american tour, and the only sim i am missing.
THANKS FOR YOUR HELP..............
Fantasy................................................................................
Member #4603
09-03-07, 21:16
I was hanging out in San Jose so I wanted to leave my impression for those who have never been here. I’m a very experienced traveler and know most of the counties in Latin America, but I’m not an old hand when it comes to Costa Rica so this is my first impression, nothing more.
After arrival I made a beeline for the Del Rey/Blue Marlin after having read so much about it. It’s quite a place and I’ve never experienced anything like it anywhere in Latin America. The place itself is a decent sized bar/restaurant/casino, pretty upscale for a Latin American mongering spot and make no mistake, the Del Rey is a mongering spot through and through. Save the staff, every woman, and there are probably 100 or more circulating in and out, is a pro.
The Del Rey complex has the feel of an American sports bar set in Las Vegas. Good food, attentive staff, gambling. A decent ambience if you don’t want to get too far off the beaten track I suppose, but sort of weird at the same time. Though fairly upscale, it caters to a pretty low scale crowd of Americans predominantly. I’d say on this Saturday there were easily more guys there than girls, perhaps 2 or 3 to 1. If you see a girl you like, snap her up quickly or you’ll likely see her leaving with someone else the next time you turn around. I’ve never seen so many Americans congregated in one spot in Latin America since, say, spring break in Cancun. Although the Del Rey caters to a much older crowd and you definitely get the feeling that some of the old guys have practically taken up permanent residence there which was both inspiring and sort of sad at the same time. English is widely spoken by the staff so Spanish isn’t a necessity at all in this place.
The women are gorgeous, ranging from tall, slim model looking types to ladies with luscious latina-style ghetto booties and all shapes and sizes in between – also all colors from blonde to black with many Colombians and Dominicans. (Colombians tend to be the curvy, long-haired ones with big fake tits, the Dominicans are the black ones). Along with Rio’s Help disco and Adelitas in Tijuana, the Del Rey is surely one of the premier places to find large numbers of hot women for sale together in a single spot in the entire Western hemisphere.
Another plus is that the weather is great. No sweating under heat indexes of 100 here. San Jose has California weather.
All of this is the good part, so now for the bad part.
Despite all its good points, I’d say there are some very big negatives about the scene that will likely make me bypass the Del Rey and San Jose in the future.
First and foremost are the droves of thugs, bums, hustlers and lunatics hanging out in the area. They are not your typical annoying touts or low-key panhandlers one finds all over Latin America, and I’ve been everywhere in Latin America. No, it seems to be populated with the dodgier sort of riff raff one finds on skid row in a major US city. It’s advisable if you’re alone or not in a good sized group to take a taxi even for a few blocks. There seems to be no police presence in the area whatever and one gets the feeling that if you get into it with one of these guys, you’ll have a small army to contend with. There seemed to be at least half a dozen street rats loitering on every single corner and in front of every business making them totally unavoidable. I don’t like feeling that I’m not free to walk around and explore at night and here you definitely can’t. Or better put, definitely shouldn’t. Not that there is much to see in San Jose anyhow.
Which brings me to another drawback. San Jose is ugly and depressing. Think of a rainy day in Cleveland and you get the picture. Actually, the downtown streets most remind me of San Francisco’s Tenderloin district with bums, drug addicts, insane people, aggressive panhandlers, general filth and a notable current of negative energy all well represented. I didn’t talk to a single person whether tourist, monger, or hooker that had something nice to say about San Jose as a city.
Perhaps as big a negative is that the women by and large seem mechanical and far too business-like. It’s definitely all about the money here. Not that money isn’t important in other places, but money issues elsewhere usually seem more like background noise or even a party favor where here it is very much front and center. The standard quote is $100 USD for an "hour" (meaning they’ll do their level best to get you off in 10 minutes and then split), payment often expected in advance. Of course special arrangements can be made and there are outliers in every group, but the general terms and conditions seem to be no kissing, no BBBJ, no back door, routine indifference. The homely second stringers, though, seem a bit more amenable. Still, Rio de Janeiro this is not. I talked to about half a dozen stunners that I fully intended to take back to my room with me when I approached them only to end up being turned off by their frigid, boring conversation and preoccupation with payment.
I did manage to sample a couple that weren’t totally jaded, but they seemed too practiced all the same and were anxious to get right back on the game. No toda la noche at the Del Rey. Here the best looking women can probably turn 4 or 5 tricks in a single night which isn’t too sexy if you’re guy number 5.
If you’re coming to Latin America from the US or Canada for the first time, I can see that this mongering hot spot will seem like heaven as there certainly is nothing like it up there, but truth be told I found it something of a disappointment when compared to other experiences I’ve had around Latin America. I can get over any one or perhaps two of the drawbacks I mentioned, but not all of these drawbacks together. Even though there is less to choose from as far as women go in most other places, if having an all around good time is at the top of your list rather than just adding a few hot conquests to your trophy case, you’re likely to have more fun elsewhere. There is nothing that you can find at the Del Rey that you can’t find in any number of much better locations.
I was planning to spend more time here, but moved on to other parts in short order despite the bevy of sexy, available women. San Jose is just that bad.
One note: The Hotel Presidente is very civilized and pleasant. Well stocked mini-bar, very clean, well decorated and everything works from the air conditioning to the Internet. I give the Presidente a thumbs up. I brought an absolutely gorgeous, tall, curvaceous and not entirely sterile Colombiana here and as far as I can tell there was no fee charged for the pleasure. She let herself out after our session. No problems.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Mr Jetsetter
09-05-07, 12:59
SweetLemon,
If the Saturday night you referred to in your fine report is this last one, September 1st, you definitely had the misfortune of hitting the DR on an unusual night. Tons and tons of mongers were in town for the CRT anniversary bash, and U.S. holiday weekends such as this one do attract an unusual number of gentlemen. I'm not a big fan of the Del Rey scene, but, believe me, most of the time the ladies greatly outnumber the men. Also, don't be so quick to categorize the male patrons as "low scale." I have met some very friendly, interesting guys there over my past five trips, a number of them very, very successful businessmen back in the States simply having a casual time partying the day or night away, enjoying a brief respite from the pressures back home.
I have to agree with you about the seedy nature of the area immediately around the Del Rey, but San Jose does have some nicer areas to hang out in, and offers some great day trips that allow you to see the countryside, such as the Pacuare River rafting trip. Perhaps if you would have spent some time at the Sportsmen's Lodge and Zona Blue and New Fantasy or a number of other venues on a weekend other than this last one (assuming this is the time period you are referring to), you might have received a more favorable impression. I'm not in any way saying San Jose is comperable to Rio or Buenos Aires or other places you've been to, but a good time CAN be had.
I also totally agree with your comment about the lack of a proper police presence. I simply don't understand it, considering the number of visitors the city has. Unfortunately, it might take a high-profie, well-publicised violent attack or two for the powers-that-be to wake up to this absurd oversight.
DR Monger II
09-05-07, 14:43
SweetLemon, you are right about San Jose as a city. However, I didn't see thugs or street rats at every corner. I guess San Jose feels like NYC in the 1970s. I did see police, but they weren't going after TVs at night or walking the beat that much. I saw one of them stop a Dominos pizza delivery guy :) While some pros are mechanical at some massage places you can offer a 20 dollar tip and most likely get bbbj or 2 shots at sex. However, kissing is very rare. I found some places like Bar IDem to be too mechanical. It's kind of sad because they charge the highest rates out of all the incall places in San Jose. I did not sample the wares of HDR girls, because I was a cheapskate. However, I think most of the girls would easily take 80. Most massage parlors charge from 20-45 for an hour. For about 60 dollars, you can almost get GFE.
Professor 1
09-05-07, 22:02
I did not sample the wares of HDR girls, because I was a cheapskate. However, I think most of the girls would easily take 80.Some HDR girls will take less than US$80, particularly if you communication with them in Spanish. I told one "nice girl," who started with the US$100 scheme, that I am NOT a tourist, and do not pay cien. She quickly retort, "Of course, of course, and you're a nice guy."
I told her that I was not looking for ANYTHING, but just wanted a beer. I added that I would consider US$50, since she was a nice girl. She asked for US$60, and got it.
Professor 1
09-05-07, 22:09
The standard quote is $100 USD for an "hour" (meaning they’ll do their level best to get you off in 10 minutes and then split), payment often expected in advance. Of course special arrangements can be made and there are outliers in every group, but the general terms and conditions seem to be no kissing, no BBBJ, no back door, routine indifference. The homely second stringers, though, seem a bit more amenable.The quoted US$100 is the gringo rate, not the rate that people like me, and CRT members, pay. When I hear cien, I simply start laughing, and pat the girl on the back like I got the joke. You have to bargain as though you were in the market. I do not pay sticker price for a car, so I am certainly not going to pay sticker for P4P.
I had a great GFE that involved more than vanilla sex. It included BBBJ, for example. It helps to be able to ask for it in Spanish. My limited experience tells me that if you treat the transaction like it's a mechanical action, then the girl will follow.
Professor 1
09-05-07, 22:39
The standard quote is $100 USD for an "hour" (meaning they’ll do their level best to get you off in 10 minutes and then split), payment often expected in advance. Of course special arrangements can be made and there are outliers in every group, but the general terms and conditions seem to be no kissing, no BBBJ, no back door, routine indifference. The homely second stringers, though, seem a bit more amenable.The quoted US$100 is the gringo rate, not the rate that people like me, and CRT members, pay. When I hear cien, I simply start laughing, and pat the girl on the back like I got the joke. You have to bargain as though you were in the market. I do not pay sticker price for a car, so I am certainly not going to pay sticker for P4P.
I had a great GFE that involved more than vanilla sex. It included BBBJ, for example. It helps to be able to ask for it in Spanish. My limited experience tells me that if you treat the transaction like it's a mechanical action, then the girl will follow.
Member #2964
09-06-07, 00:20
Jet set and sweet leamon.
I had a DR girl total la noache for 15K last night.
I have just retuned from a drink at the DR and had a triple belly offer of 25K.
I knew her 2 years ago and she has added 2 bellies. I said no and offered 15K where= as she said her friend a Nica with fine natural titas and single belly would go for 15K.
All the girls WANT cien. but I am too cheap and spoiled to pay. Heading down to 6th street and out too Pasao Colon tommorw.
I enjoy the troll through the MPs. each day, week, month brings new choices.
Out to La Grillion tonight to see if Tracy from Palufos is indeed working a new venue.
What ever you do Have fun.
First and foremost are the droves of thugs, bums, hustlers and lunatics hanging out in the area. They are not your typical annoying touts or low-key panhandlers one finds all over Latin America, and I’ve been everywhere in Latin America. No, it seems to be populated with the dodgier sort of riff raff one finds on skid row in a major US city. It’s advisable if you’re alone or not in a good sized group to take a taxi even for a few blocks. There seems to be no police presence in the area whatever and one gets the feeling that if you get into it with one of these guys, you’ll have a small army to contend with. There seemed to be at least half a dozen street rats loitering on every single corner and in front of every business making them totally unavoidable. I don’t like feeling that I’m not free to walk around and explore at night and here you definitely can’t. Or better put, definitely shouldn’t. Not that there is much to see in San Jose anyhow.
I haven't been to San Jose for 3 or 4 years. What you describe, SL, is very different from what I saw when I made 4 or 5 trips there.
I agree the city outside of the pedestrian mall is pretty ugly. The park is passable and the museum up the hill is nice, but most of the area has no esthetic at all. Even the university grounds (of UCR) didn't seem very well landscaped.
I walked around from one club to another; from Casablancas to Del Rey to Pantera Rosa at night and didn't have any difficulties. I didn't any roving gangs of anybody. I did see some homeless people collecting garbage. I did see drunken guys staggering about. I did see bouncers checking out the street in front of the club or restaurant they were working in.
I did see an occasional police car at night, but not often. I saw patrol officers much more often during the day time in the pedestrian mall area. The ATM area of a bank I use has a guard posted there 24/7. I didn't feel any real danger walking around at night though I don't recommend it to anyone who drinks a lot. I heard that 1 or 2 years ago that crime (muggings, pickpockets) in the Gringo Gulch area started rising.
Professor 1
09-07-07, 02:24
I agree the city outside of the pedestrian mall is pretty ugly. The park is passable and the museum up the hill is nice, but most of the area has no esthetic at all. Even the university grounds (of UCR) didn't seem very well landscaped.I must disagree. I found San Jose to be no worse than any major USA City, including those where I lived. I did spend a day at UCR, and the place looked nice and clean, like any urban USA University.
San Jose is no Indonesia, but I found it better than some USA Cities.
Just like any major city, there are many parts of San Jose that are not safe to travel at night. Dark streets, parks, etc. Stay aware of your surroundings, move fast, take a taxi at night and stay with a group of people etc. and you should be alright.
I too have noticed some very aggressive undesirables around the Del Rey area.
San Jose is the chief metropolitan area of a lesser developed country and like any such city it has its more decrepit and dangerous parts. The reason for that is that, being a struggling developing country, they don't have nearly the same level of resources available to maintain the urban infrastructure that we take for granted here in the US. In that respect, it is no different from any other similar country and despite that it is not much worse than many cities in the US and is actually much NICER than many other cities I've been to in other countries. So rather than look down our noses at SJ and ignore our own shortcomings at home, we should appreciate SJ for what it is and what it has to offer. We should also understand that most western tourists, except for us twisted monger types, don't come to CR for its urban landscape but for what they can find out in the country. It makes some sense for them to poo-poo the city and head elsewhere. As for the mongers, if you hang out primarily in areas known for its bars, gambling and prostitution what do you really expect to find?
Some of what SweetLemon posted has some merit, but a lot of it misses the mark and seems to be based just on some superficial and abbreviated visit, where he spent most of his time in the highly non-representative area between the Presidente and the HDR (before prematurely fleeing the country altogether). I haven't been "everywhere in Latin America" like he has but I have been to every Central American capital city except Panama's, and many of its other larger cities as well, not to mention all the major cities of Colombia and Rio de Janeiro. Sure, Rio's embarcadero is nice, but there are plenty of hustlers in front of Helpe and go a few blocks back and up towards the favelas and tell me how nice and safe that city is. Rio is world renowned for its pickpockets. And Colombia, not CR, is on the US State department warning lists. And even for just Central America, as "bad" as it is in many ways, I'd put SJ ahead of just about any other major city I've been to there. The only corner where I ever see "at least half a dozen street rats loitering" is right outside the HDR. To say it is like that on every corner is a gross exaggeration.
Unlike most other latin american cities I've been, SJ is one of the only ones where being able to walk from venue to venue was even a possibility. Walking around by day in SJ is perfectly safe, unless you're totally oblivious to your surroundings. At night it is more hit or miss. I don't get drunk, know how to carry myself and know where not to go, and have walked around at night a lot of times with never an incident. However if you want to play it safe nowhere is more than a $2 cab ride apart.
And despite its reputation for being ugly, a charge no one else seems willing to retort, I would have to disagree. Okay, it is no Rio or BA, but they have their ugly parts too. It still beats places like Managua or Guatemala City or San Pedro Sula. The rooftops of Medellin or Teguciagalpa look pretty nice from the surrounding hills, but get down to street level and its a different story. SJ definitely has it share of ugly parts (like pretty much all of Avenida 2, the Zona Rosa, Coca Cola, etc.), but it also has its nice parks and plazas (like Sabana or Espana) neighborhoods (like Los Yoses or Amon). Your choice is whether to focus on the crime and pollution or on the positives that ARE there.
Finally, there are the chicas. I'll leave it to others to defend the chicas of CR more thoroughly. I'll just say this. While I know you can find better looking, more accomodating, and less expensive women in other places, the equation is not as simple as that. Chicas in CR are not as hopeless as SL made out. Sure, you'll find your mercenary bitches that stick to cien at the HDR as SL stated. But far more will come down from that rate than will stick to it and it is misleading to suggest that the ASKING rate is anything like the GOING MARKET rate. Sure special requests like anal may be standard fare in places like Rio and much less so in CR, but BBBJ's and FK at least are not at all rare in SJ as SL suggests and are actually the norm.
But what about the other parts of the equation. Can you fly to those other places, that SL finds so much better than CR, in less than 3 hours from Miami? Do those places have the wealth of other things to do and see that CR has? Are those other places as user-friendly for guys who are new to international mongering and who don't speak much spanish? Are those other places a center for sex tourism which draws in chicas from other countries and thus often has the cream of the crop as well as the variety?
As a frequent visitor to San jose for 5 years, I have noticed a general increase in the number of persons looking for handouts, leeches pushing phony cuban cigars and $20 viagra pills, but also more dangerously increased numbers of tranvestites and thugs in general all arounf the Del Rey.
Many old time visitors would say it was more safe to walk around at night for several blocks around the del Rey, not so any more.
Also, having been to Panama and noticing the police presence in the street around the hotels and casinos I realized that I never saw any police patrolling the area around the Del Rey.
Final word monger: with caution, the costa rican authorities know what we do and allow it, but won't go out of their way to offer protection. You're on your own.
From photo gallery ...
I have thought about it. This sex-photo thread is a place to post and discuss photos, which is what I and others were doing. However, I was ready to turn the stage back to the photo posters and YOU chose to continue this worn out discussion with an inflammatory post that, btw didn't have any photos in it either.
I'm sorry if hearing opinions that differ from yours upsets you so much (not!). Personally, I don't think engaging in the P4P hobby has to mean you can't do it in a classy manner, although it very well might be true that YOU can't. You'll find many many posts, even on this board, by vets advising treating the girls with respect (at least to their face) and how that leads to getting better sessions from them. And posting photos of them against their wishes is a form of disrespect that can lead to bad sessions (or the refusal to pose for any more) IF it gets back to them, particularly for the original poster but to a lesser extent for everyone else as well due the general reduction in trust.
As far as my being "psuedo-intelligent", that's pseudo and there's nothing pseudo about it. I'd be more than happy to match wits with you anytime in real life.
Pro - true, I didn't post any pics with my previous post. Read the first part of my previous post again and you'll see why. Besides, following your lead, I thought it was a discussion thread, not a photo thread.
A face-to-face challenge huh? How very macho. I surrender to your intellectual superiority. I don't intend to visit the US in the forseeable future, so you'll have to fly to Dubai. ;)
As for respecting the girls, my posts over the years speak for themselves.
I welcome differences of opinion and useful criticism. Most of your posts are useful and informative. I'm simply saying that endless, multiple (and overly-repetitive) posts in the photo gallery criticizing photo-posters gets more than a little tedious. As I said before, you've made the same point many many times - enough already. (PS, apologies for my speling mistake. ;) I'm just an illiterate girl-disrespecting monger).
That's the end of the matter for me. Once the photo thread becomes a photo thread again, I'll again contribute there accordingly.
As Jackson suggests:
Hi Guys,
It's okay with me if you want to change this thread into a General Discussion instead of the Photo Gallery, but at least let me know so I can start a new Photo Gallery.
It's either that, or you can move your discussion to another thread and we can keep this thread as the Photo Gallery.
Thank You!
JacksonGood idea Jackson - how about a photo chit-chat thread, ala Thailand, Phillipines etc.
Good enough, Piper. We'll agree to disagree and let it lie (well until the next time this flares up).
On a somewhat different subject, I'd like to add a couple of points.
I think that photo chit-chat is a good idea in theory and would be great if it actually worked. The only problem I see is, if we can't keep completely non-photo related subjects out of the current photo thread, how are we going to keep the reactions to the photos posted out of that thread even if there is another thread created for that purpose. And if the remarks are in reaction to a particular photo, placing those remarks in a seperate thread would make it a bit less clear what the poster was referring to. Still, I think your idea does warrant further consideration. Maybe someone else has some ideas for further refinements.
My other remark concerns the recent youtube video that kicked off this recent round of debate. Whether you guys felt it was right or wrong for him to post like he did, it has now been removed from the YouTube site for copyright infringement reasons. And the guy who posted it may be pursued for legal costs but at the very least has had his CRT membership revoked (banned for life actually), meaning no more CRT discount at his formerly favorite place, if he can even return there at all. I hope it was all worth it for him.
Good enough, Piper. We'll agree to disagree and let it lie (well until the next time this flares up).
On a somewhat different subject, I'd like to add a couple of points.
I think that photo chit-chat is a good idea in theory and would be great if it actually worked. The only problem I see is, if we can't keep completely non-photo related subjects out of the current photo thread, how are we going to keep the reactions to the photos posted out of that thread even if there is another thread created for that purpose. And if the remarks are in reaction to a particular photo, placing those remarks in a seperate thread would make it a bit less clear what the poster was referring to. Still, I think your idea does warrant further consideration. Maybe someone else has some ideas for further refinements.
My other remark concerns the recent youtube video that kicked off this recent round of debate. Whether you guys felt it was right or wrong for him to post like he did, it has now been removed from the YouTube site for copyright infringement reasons. And the guy who posted it may be pursued for legal costs but at the very least has had his CRT membership revoked (banned for life actually), meaning no more CRT discount at his formerly favorite place, if he can even return there at all. I hope it was all worth it for him.Agreed also. (Glad you didn't take it all too seriously in the end).
As for photo chit-chat threads, they're not intended to make photo threads "photos-only". Members still make comments, but the idea is that long discussions or debates are shifted to the chit-chat thread.
I guess the youtube CRT guy will just have to sign up under a new name. ;) BTW, when I first arrived in CR, I went to Zona Blue and asked for my card, but they couldn't find it. They still offered me the CRT member discount. (They found my card later).
Agreed also. (Glad you didn't take it all too seriously in the end).
As for photo chit-chat threads, they're not intended to make photo threads "photos-only". Members still make comments, but the idea is that long discussions or debates are shifted to the chit-chat thread.
I guess the youtube CRT guy will just have to sign up under a new name. ;) BTW, when I first arrived in CR, I went to Zona Blue and asked for my card, but they couldn't find it. They still offered me the CRT member discount. (They found my card later).All but the "psuedo" part. I realize not everyone cares for my style of writing. Most people don't realize that my handle means long-winded, overly detailed and tedious in spanish. So I'm not so serious that I can't poke a little fun at myself or take it when others do. But that's all part of who I am. I'm not trying to put on any airs. If you meet me in person, I think you'll find I'm just as intelligent as I "seem on TV", although, I'm told, not quite as long-winded.
Re photo chit-chat thread: that sounds a bit more sensible but it still begs the question of once it starts how do you get all guys participating to restrict their additional comments to a different thread and for that matter how do you know which discussions or debates are long until they've ALREADY gotten out of hand. Still the idea could work and, for my part anyway, I'll try harder to keep my long replies elsewhere.
Re YouTube CRT guy: True, he could just sign-up under another handle. However he'd have a few difficulties:
a) Tommy has his name because he was foolish enough to put an e-mail address containing most of it at the end of the video which he could match up with membership information,
b) He can easily register for the board under an assumed name and make posts in the general section but it wouldn't be so easy for him to pay on-line for a VIP membership without using his real name, and
c) even if he manages to somehow get another CRT VIP card and maybe use it at some places, (or even if he doesn't and just says he's a VIP member) if he tries that at ZB he better hope Eddie doesn't see him since Eddie knows what he looks like and is actually hoping he'll try to show his face.
BTW, I don't know about this aspect but the ZB chicas might very well be aware of this little episode too and not be very happy about it (having their photos copied over to a website with a MUCH wider audience than one carefully targeted at just potential customers). If so, Eddie may very well have told them who this guy is and to be on the lookout for him as well.
Gringo Tico
09-19-07, 18:21
I havn't seem much info on the Tico MP lately. I was in San Jose a month ago and visited the "Purple House" aka Cha-Cha-Cha. I was there in the late mornings and usually 3-6 chicas were present. I chose a 19 yo named Tatiana. Wow, what a nice session. I went back in a couple of days and she was not there so I chose a late 20s named Windy. She was more professional but equally great. Prices there are 8,000 colonies or about $15. for half hour. Rooms are more or less clean and have hot water shower and girls will shower with you. The girls also said they will go for a 3 some. All in all a very good experience but I think it is better to pay for an hour.
World Travel 69
09-22-07, 15:01
My buddy and I just spend 11 days in Costa Rica. 5 of those days were in Rainy San Jose.
We stayed three nights at the Sportmen's Lodge. And 2 nights at the Hotel Castillo.
As in an earlier post you do not really have to go to any other places to get laid. Everything is right there.
At the Sportmen's we staying in the cheapy rooms. They are next to the bar and socializing area. A bit noisy.
I like the Hotel Castillo and the Garden's Bar. It is a little more layed back. I got a better nights rest.
At the Sportmen's I can recommend Elizabeth for your cravings.
And the best for me, because I have a bad back and needed a massage was Angelica at the Sportmen's. $40. a hour for a straight massage. I have been getting massage for most of my life. She does one of the best massages I have ever had.
Smokers Rule
09-22-07, 15:52
WT69 nice to see you made it to CR. Thanks for the pic.
Johnny Sax
09-26-07, 06:32
Took me a while to get around to posting this, it's been a whirlwind since I got back...
Okay, my wing man and I got into Costa Rica in the late morning, went to the Morazan which was the only Gulch hotel we could get booked that wasn't an outrageous price. (I refuse to stay at the Presidente because I don't want anyone telling me what I can and cannot do but that's a whole other thread, let's not get into that HERE...)
Let me start out by introducing you to my Wing Man, D.:
He is a guy who loves the Del Rey and doesn't like massage parlors at all. He loves to look and look among all those girls for just the Right One - his "perfect fantasy girl". This of course can be very disappointing as his standards are high, and he particularly does not like them with more than an ounce or two of extra fat. Not my ideal "wing man" but he's a good friend so I put up with his weird ideas about mongering! ;-)
Me: I love the Del Rey game, especially when I can find someone to talk with (I am fluent) and make a connection with and have a good time, hang out for awhile before doing the deed, and maybe make a permanent friend.
On the other hand, I also love Zona Blue because of the no-nonsense approach and always high quality service. I personally find that the girls at Zona Blue are sexually Hotter - more into sex - than most of the ones at the Del Rey. But that is just a generalization and maybe it's just my luck of the draw as well. I like New Fantasy just fine when they have a good batch of girls there but I haven't seen that for the last couple times I've been down there. And Idem is a little too weird for me, I don't like the way the girls are all along the wall and the bar is separated from them, they can't move around as freely (or don't anyway) and so on. I've had a couple okay sessions there but nothing great. I don't get into the Paseo Colon or super cheap massage scene as those kinds of places just don't appeal to me. I like a little more of a social environment like the ZB. These are just my personal preferences.
So we checked into the Morazan and right away found out that they screwed us, did not reserve our two rooms as they promised us on the phone a few weeks previous and told us we'd have to share a room for the 1st night. Worse, instead of just fessing up that they booked one of our rooms to someone else, they tried to say it was a mistake: Yet they admitted they HAD our 2 separate rooms for the other nights, just not the first night. We said, "How does that make any sense? that we would want to share a room the first night, but not the other 4 nights??"
Well, long story shorter, after arguing with them about it for awhile, and pointing out how it was clear to us that they were just jerking us around, and how next time we might go to another hotel, they finally gave in and got us a 2nd room. It was unfortunate to have to start out our trip fighting with our hotel, but they were clearly just jerking us around and we were clearly not going to just let them do it without complaining. But it took a good half hour of complaining before they finally corrected it, AFTER we had given in and agreed to share one room, but they could see we were clearly unhappy about it. Ricky Ricardo as we call him was his usual pain in the ass self. He's like the price you pay for staying at what is otherwise a good bargain hotel.
Okay... So we go over to the Blue Marlin in the afternoon after eating some breakfast and showering and so on.
The selection on that Friday afternoon was incredible. I'd never seen such a high percentage of HOT babes, not even at night. One super hot girl, one of the most beautiful I've ever seen in my 15 years of going down there, came over to us with her not so hot friend and asked if we were interested and we both agreed she was a TEN but neither of us were in the mood at the moment so we declined. D. expected to get another chance with her, and I figured she was out of my price range as I refuse to pay over $80 and prefer to pay well under that.
That afternoon I went over to Zona Blue, looking for a hot lesbian encounter. Lesbians+Me are my "specialty" if you will, and I've had some of the hottest 3ways ever over at ZB, mostly with Pamela+her flavor of the day. This time I had heard there was a new brunette girlfriend of Pam's and I hoped I'd find them there and available. Pamela wasn't there when I walked in, nor were any of my other faves (Michel, Sharror, Naomi, etc.). So I sat down on the end of the couch (the bar was full) and waited.
Two minutes later, Pam walks in, I catch her eye, ask if she remembers me, she does, and asks me if I want a party. I say, "Yeah, but with you and who?" She points out a HOT tall brunette and I say "YES!" and she goes to talk with her. Turns out she is spoken for, so Pamela brings over Laura who she says is her sister.
She looks pretty sexy in her clothes and I love the idea that they might really be sisters, so I say yes, and we go back to their room.
I've had Pam+ other girls 3somes about 4 times now. My best session ever ws with Pam and Sharror who were like 2 wild animals sucking on me, it was like 2 sharks in a feeding frenzy, they were VERY enthusiastic and in the end Pam let me squirt in her mouth which I love, but was not at all expecting to get, so that was a very memorable session. My other very memorable session was my 1st lesbian session ever, with Pam and Naomi, who were also very enthusiastic.
Anyway, Pam got in the shower and I started taking fotos. She loves the camera! She always gets bummed whenever I put it AWAY! Then Laura came in and she showered and I took some shots of her too but she was very camera shy and I could see why: her belly was a little flabby, which I did not notice at all in her clothes, and she had some cellulite.
But nevertheless both were very enthusiastic both with each other and with me, and it seems that Pam and I have a chemistry where she knows what I want and when I want it and I love her "anything goes" attitude! They also both kiss which I love, and between kissing and sucking my dick I was a very happy man! Pam is simply an admitted nymphomaniac and she loves sex and that makes her a very good service provider!
The only downside to this session came at the end when I tipped them each 5k c and they twisted my arm to double that. I had just come from the bathroom where I saw a sign about how they aren't supposed to do that, and frankly it put a damper on an otherwise perfect memory. It isn't the money, it's just that I don't like being coerced into doubling my tip, and I don't like adding to the inflationary climate of the mongering economy in San Jose'. I gave in because they practically begged me and I'd have felt like a heel not to give them the extra 5k each. But I am going to discreetly report it at some point.
Back to the Blue Marlin...
It was Friday night and Dave and I went over to the BM to see what we hoped were hundreds of HOT Ticas, Nicas and so on.
After a while we looked at each other and said, "Man! The girls down here have to start going on diets!" We had never seen such a large percentage of fat chicks! And, I will add, just downright homely looking chicks, as well! We left and came back, then went to Key Largo later, and still: it was "fat night" at the Gulch! We were very disappointed and neither of us went with anyone that night.
The next day we went back in the afternoon hoping to find that first super hot chick who came over to us the previous afternoon and we could not find her anywhere. And the selection was nowhere near what it was the previous afternoon. We had a few beers and then left, decided to wait and see what the night would bring. We never did see that first super hot chick again. She must have been an "afternoon amateur".
That night, as well, was not what I remember Saturday nights to be, in my dozens of Saturday nights there. Just too damned many fat chicks, too damned many homely chicks, and the funny thing is they are showing off those fat bellies like they are proud of them! This is really getting to be a serious cultural difference! I mean, I'm not like my wing man, I can accept a coupla extra pounds. But really, these chicks are just downright FAT! This was by far the worst I've ever seen it in my 15 years of mongering there!
Finally a young petite thinnish girl named Ana came by - a Nica - and though she wasn't exactly my type I liked her spunk and she seemed very easy going and fun to be with , so I negotiated her down to $80 after we'd had a few drinks, and done some groping at the table, and we went back to my room. She was very good in bed, and we had a good time and she said she thought she could help me get a residency in CR, something I am trying to do for when I move there some day, and she knew an attorney who could "fix things like this", so I agreed that we'd go talk to her attorney and I offered to pay her a bonus if the attorney actually could get me a cheap residency. She did not ask for this money, I offered it because I thought it was more than worth it to me, if I could get this done, and she seemed legitimately into just helping me out, not working me for money....
Boy did I get that wrong!
So she shows up at my hotel room the next day, unannounced, and I let her up, and she comes in and we sit and talk. She wants to go down and gamble some at the slots and I really don't but agree to it anyway. I spend a few thou colones with her on that and then we go play some pool and drink beers over at the Monkey Bar and then she asks what I want to do. I say, "Well, I don't really have any plans" and she asks if I want to go back to the room and I say, "well, okay" and I agree to pay her another $80. I really don't like to repeat with the same girl 2 days in a row, but since we'd had a lot of fun playing pool and hanging out together, I said "what the hell?" and we went back to my room.
We have a good session, though nothing to write home about. ["Dear Mom..." ] ;-)
It's still early in the day so she asks what I am doing now and I say I don't know, probably go back over to the Del Rey and see if D's over there. She asks if she can go and I say okay. Then she hits me up for more slot machine action... I politely oblige... I am beginning to see how this girl is wrapping me around her finger, and usually I don't allow it but she is being so nice and we're having fun, so I let it happen. Then she asks me to buy her something to eat at the Del Rey and I agree. She orders something much higher priced than what I ordered. Now I'm wanting to get rid of her so I make an exit, but she says she'll call me the next day about teh attorney appointment.
I hang out with D. and he still isn't finding anyone he likes because he's so picky about not liking any belly fat, and so we just sit around and drink for awhile, flirt a bit, fend off advances, and go back to the hotel.
Next day, Ana calls me, says she'll be over in an hour and we'll go to the attorney. In a while she calls me from the desk and says it's time to go. I go expecting to get a taxi on my own and go with her, but she already has a "taxi" and her sister in the car. But it's not a taxi, it's a rogue, and I can see that she knows the driver - maybe her brother? - and I am feeling uneasy about this. I know at the least I am likely to get screwed on the cost of the taxi.
The guy doesn't realize I know San Jose like the back of my hand, so I notice he's driving the long way around and wasting time. No meter of course, and so I just know this is going to turn out bad. I know a scam when I see one.
So we get to the attorney's office and at least he is a real attorney. But of course her promise that he could fix things to get me a residency is pure b.s. and she is pushing for me to get married to some neighbor girl of her's to get it, and I am saying no I don't want to do that. I don't see what is in it for her if I marry her neighbor but she keeps pushing me to do it and I keep saying no.
However, the attorney does give me some other ideas on how I could get residency without having to deposit $60k U.S. which is about the only way you can legally do it unless you're collecting social security. So it wasn't a total waste of time, I got the guy's card and maybe in the future he can help me out. He seemed like a decent guy and was looking at Ana like "Oh, I see, another one of her crazy ideas!" I'm guessing she banged him regularly in exchange for her getting her residency. But I am just guessing of course, I don't KNOW anything about it.
Then, we go back to the hotel, and of course the "taxi driver" hits me up for like 10k colones and I say, no, that's b.s., I'll give you 4 k, I know how far we went. But then he explains that I have to pay for Ana's ride into town, too. In the end I negotiate down to 8k and write it off as an "I knew better" situation. I should have insisted right from the start that we take a real taxi.
Meanwhile, her sister (fat and ugly) is hanging around with her, and suddenly it is apparent that I am supposed to give Ana some money for taking me out to see the attorney so she can pay her sister some money she owes her. Of course I never agreed to any such thing. I explain that to her, and that I already paid her $80, bought her 2 dinners, and frankly I am running short on funds (true) and so do not have money to just give her. She says she HAS to give her sister money to get back home. I am wondering why her sister came in the first place, and how that is MY problem!? Now I'm getting really annoyed.
I tell her this and she begins begging me to just give her 5k c. so she can "get rid of her sister". Turns out that her sister and her have gambled all their money and neither of them have enough money to get home in a taxi. I say "So, take a bus!"
I explain that her sister is not my problem, and frankly, neither is she. I then give her a lecture about the stupidity of gambling all her money on slots when she hasn't got enough money to buy taxi rides home or food for her child (all that had come out during an earlier conversation). I see clearly now that she is a gambling addict and that this is why she is always scamming for money.
Well, this report is getting way too long, although there is more to the story... so suffice to say, this chick Ana was a total pain in my ass, she was working me every angle she could find out of the "Squeezing Money Out of Johns" handbook, and I was totally fed up with it! It finally ended somewhat ugly with me just walking away from her in anger and letting her know I did not wish to be bothered by her anymore. I'm all for helping out a girl, and I think I had been very accommodating to her, giving her an extra $80 session that I was not really interested in, buying her dinner and slots and so on. But now I'd had my fill and was tired of her games. So that was that.
I advise anyone to run when they see this girl coming! Not that she's a bad person. I really think it's her gambling addiction that is making her the way she is, otherwise I think she'd probably be okay. This is something I've seen with several of the girls, and it can really mess them up.
So... After all that...
My final night in San Jose I was sitting in the Del Rey with D. - he finally scored a very hot young thin "amateur" Dominican the night before! - and we both had our eyes on this young almost Italian looking chick with short hair. I kept ogling her and finally her and her friend came over. I talked to them a bit as did D., and after a few minutes they let it be known that they were lesbians, best friends, roommates, and were horny for each other because they hadn't seen each other for a few days, and they were interested in having a party with me back at my room. After I heard they were lesbians I was a goner, so I negotiated them down to $150 for the two and we went back to my room.
They went in the shower by themselves, first and had some fun together while I waited in my room. When they came out, they were obviously into it, and they ate each other out and took turns sucking me off, took turns riding me cowboy style, and so on and so forth. They were very good, but did not have the enthusiasm - no , it's beyond enthusiasm, it's more like a FRENZY - of Pamela-and-friends at ZB. By the way these BM lezbos were named Laura and Shirley. Shirley has long black hair and Laura has short reddish brown hair.
But anyway, they were fun, we had a good time, and it was great that I ended the week on a high note instead of the bad mood that Ana had put me in.
Overall it was a good week, I also got some business done, and I had quite a bit of fun, in spite of the problems here and there.
In all my 15 years of mongering in the Gulch and massage parlors I never did run into any chick who manipulated me the way Ana did. And the thing was I could see it coming, but I was just too easy going and let her get away with it. It could have been worse, she could have robbed me in that rogue taxi, or something. Oh,and by the way, it came to light that she does have a "gringo boyfriend" in the states who sends her money from time to time to help her out. I feel sorry for that guy, he must be a real chump.
Like I say, I don't think she's really a rotten apple, I just think she's got a gambling addiction that is out of control and it makes her do things she otherwise would probably not do.
A couple other comments:
I DID get ripped off, but I don't know who did it - the lezbo girls from the Blue Marlin or Ana. One of them stole my pepper spray, I'm not sure which. And one of them stole my comb and my hair conditioner. All in all, not too bad, but really, I've never had this happen in all my years there (except once someone else did steal my pepper spray) and I wonder if the girls in SJ are not maybe getting a little too desperate what with all the competition from Nicaragua, Colombia and so on.
While San Jose is still a great place for mongering, I am noticing a definite decline from what I would call the Golden Years of the 90's down there. Back then I never had problems with girls, the girls were thinner, and the prices were much lower. I hope the "cien" trend does not continue to get worse, or soon we WILL have to pay cien because all these idiot amateur mongers are going down there without a clue and giving the girls cien just because they ask nicely.
While I did pay $80 to each of the Blue Marlin girls I had, that was very unusual for me. When I was down there 6 months earlier I averaged more like $65, and even got 3 somes for $100 ($50 each) out of the BM. I admit that this time I wasn't in the mood for negotiating and so let my guard down a little. But still, I never paid over $80 and I always took photos too.
Johnny, I have enjoyed this report and many others you have posted before and think of you being a pro in the handling of the girls in san jose, so I surprized to see where you let this girl get up on you this way! I really never do a girl twice and to do a girl back to back (next day) I would expect some free pussy along the way. Just seemed a little weird that you went down that road. Since you said she was ok in the sack. I to like to gamble and I sometimes get involded with the girls with the fix or need to gamble. I have tried when playing cards with girls at the dl. When they go broke and ask for 5000. I tell them up front that its coming off the sex rate. I ask them before what they charge for the room (I never agree on more than 60. 00) if they say higher. And I always warn them before they say it. That its not my first time in san jose and watch what they say. If they say 100. 00 I tell them flat out goodbye! But if we agree on 60. 00 and I throw them 5000 a few times I take it off the the sex rate. Well as one could guess. It has only worked out once for me. The other times once back in the room. It goes back to 60. 00 or 50. 00 and the money given was like a dream that never happened. But it is fun to gamble with them. And I have found, if you make a plan for the next day with a cheaper price 20, 000 early in the am sex. They have all shown up and has worked out. Sorry to hear about the fat girls as I love spinners and my trip is 3 weeks away! I to make my rounds at zona blue but have never taken pamela as she just dosnt do it for me. But is always nice to me. You must hit the new york bar (maybe you do) but on my last 2 trips my best finds have been from there and cheap. And I like how you can leave and come back and it something new is sitting there. So I play the dr, keylargo and ny bar. Also hit the morazon bar late (and found so freaky drunk girls in there) but as I find in san jose. Where ever you go. Just take the time to wait. As the longer you send at wherever you are. Something will happen. Just let it.
Can anyone help with some info on Atlantis? I love the idea of getting to know a stripper and having some fun! The ad for Atlantis shows some rather high class and sexy looking strippers! Is it poosible to spend some 'time' with them? I do not mind paying a little extra if the quality is there.
Can anyone help with some info on Atlantis? I love the idea of getting to know a stripper and having some fun! The ad for Atlantis shows some rather high class and sexy looking strippers! Is it poosible to spend some 'time' with them? I do not mind paying a little extra if the quality is there.This place has the reputation as being a clip joint. The prices for the drinks and chicas is higher at Atlantis than most other places in San Jose. The chicas are very pretty though.
Dan D Dick
09-28-07, 14:13
Can anyone help with some info on Atlantis? I love the idea of getting to know a stripper and having some fun! The ad for Atlantis shows some rather high class and sexy looking strippers! Is it poosible to spend some 'time' with them? I do not mind paying a little extra if the quality is there.Went once (with my novia) & walked out. It's large, comfortable & Gringo-oriented. There are only large chairs; no couches, so in my case with my novia it was not acceptable (no way to get close). It's also expensive, $20 a pop (even for your gal if you bring one) for 2 drinks. It was also pretty much dead. My gal was definitely NOT impressed & we headed back to Lipstick which suits our needs.
Dan D.
HoleRanger
09-28-07, 23:41
Atlantis is a 'Tourist Trap" designed for those that don't know. Most taxis will try to get you there due to the commission they receive. On my visit as soon as I walked in and saw the waiter's attire I knew I was in trouble(they were in tuxedos). I sat down,got the pricing scheme and I do mean "scheme" and out the door I went w/o ordering a drink.
If strippers are your thing,cruise by Pantera Rosa,Kamur or D'pelufo's the later having the best lineup but onsite options are limited.
Enjoy!
No, I'm looking for places that are out of the way, local slums and dives (seedy even), where I can find some cheap pussy.
I've heard some guys say you can go to massage palors and only pay $25, and that's reasonable.
But can you hook up with more than one girl?
I usually need 3-4 ladies at a time and they need to be nasty (PSE, GFE, DFK, BBBJTCIM, ANAL, ATM, FACIALS, SWALLOW, etc).
I like to line them up in a row and play musical chairs with them (that's where you give one chick a few strokes, pull out and shove your dick in the mouth of the next one for a few sucks and licks, then pull out pound the next one. I especially like playing this game when it's anal play as the blow job girls usually end up with some shit in their mouths;.) he he he. Yes, I'm perverted and exploitive)
This is a joke, right?
Johnny Sax
09-29-07, 23:22
Johnny, I have enjoyed this report and many others you have posted before and think of you being a pro in the handling of the girls in san jose, so I surprized to see where you let this girl get up on you this way! I really never do a girl twice and to do a girl back to back (next day) I would expect some free pussy along the way. Just seemed a little weird that you went down that road. Since you said she was ok in the sack. I to like to gamble and I sometimes get involded with the girls with the fix or need to gamble. [edit]You must hit the new york bar (maybe you do) but on my last 2 trips my best finds have been from there and cheap. And I like how you can leave and come back and it something new is sitting there. So I play the dr, keylargo and ny bar. Also hit the morazon bar late (and found so freaky drunk girls in there) but as I find in san jose. Where ever you go. Just take the time to wait. As the longer you send at wherever you are. Something will happen. Just let it.
Thanks for the kind words.
I know, I was "off my game" letting that chick rope me in the way I did. The reason for it was that I was really hoping for some help with getting a cheap residency from an attorney that maybe could "fix" some papers...
So I let that carrot dangling in front of me affect my judgment.
In the end there was no real harm done, just one afternoon of bullsh*t, dealing with her and her sister, and the taxi cab driver and so on. In the end it makes for an interesting experience and even though I KNEW better, now I really know better...
You win some and you lose some. Like I say, I almost never go for repeats 2 days in a row, this may have been a first, or no more than a 2nd.
Let me clarify here, because I got one pm about this - I am NOT saying that all the BM girls are fat, by any means. There are still some thin ones around. It's just that the overall picture is one of girls who need to start dieting and doing some exercise! ;)
I have not checked out the NY Bar - everytime I've looked in I have never seen much happening in there. Guess it's a place to just hang and wait...
World Jockey
09-30-07, 00:22
Johnny Sax:
GREAT REPORT!
Alias: LOL funny
Johnny Sax
09-30-07, 01:03
Hi,
Does anyone have any information on the wh0rehouse and street walker scene in San Jose?
I'm considering as to whether or not I should go down to Costa Rica for some adult adventure.
But I'm not looking for anything like Del Ray (at least from the descriptions that I've heard. No offense to those who love it but I can pay $100+ here in the US).
No, I'm looking for places that are out of the way, local slums and dives (seedy even), where I can find some cheap pussy.
I've heard some guys say you can go to massage palors and only pay $25, and that's reasonable.
But can you hook up with more than one girl?
I usually need 3-4 ladies at a time and they need to be nasty (PSE, GFE, DFK, BBBJTCIM, ANAL, ATM, FACIALS, SWALLOW, etc).
I like to line them up in a row and play musical chairs with them (that's where you give one chick a few strokes, pull out and shove your dick in the mouth of the next one for a few sucks and licks, then pull out pound the next one. I especially like playing this game when it's anal play as the blow job girls usually end up with some shit in their mouths;.) he he he. Yes, I'm perverted and exploitive)
AnyHoo, back to the wh0res and street walkers.
Does anyone know of any areas?
I've heard that zona rojo and Coca-cola were pretty slummy.
Thanks in advance.
Yes, the Coca Cola and Zona Roja are pretty slimy, not to mention dangerous after dark. You can find crack *****s all around the area, but I wouldn't recommend that.
Try the area about 3-4 blocks due south of the Del Rey. You can find some girls that are a little "different" there! ;)
Just kidding.
Really, I don't think Costa Rica is the place for you. I'm not sure where is the place for you.
ThunderPants
10-01-07, 17:58
Pensiones onCalle 6, Dungeon, and Jetset are the kind of places you are looking for qbout $14 per girl on site. Invite them to your hotel $25 -50 for longer sessions. Make sure how many girls per room the hotel allows.
My wingman and I usually have a total of 3 - 4 girls per session makes a nice size pile.
ThunderPants
10-01-07, 20:17
Other places for a group grope Saphires 2 chicas for 1 hour 15,000 colones and La Mansion 2 for 20,ooo colones and Oasis 2 for 30,000. Zona Blue and New Fantasy offer doubles for double the price with CRT discount that would be about 85 dollars for 1hour at Zona Blue.
J
BlkPanther
10-02-07, 14:03
You've made some good points Prolijo. I just happen to agree. I'll be there next week enjoying myself for a couple of days. Peace!
Johnny Sax
10-02-07, 20:04
Well guys. I've pretty much decided to take the trip to Costa Rica (this week) but I need one last bit of advice to determine if Costa Rica is for me.
What type of latinas are are San Jose?
Those of an Indian heritage or those of an European heritage.
My personal preference is a women with brown skin and a broad nose (see attached photo. I know she is probably dominican but I've been there more times than I care to count).
Can I find a women like her in abundance in San Jose?
Where?
If not Costa Rica, what Latin American country would you recommended?
Thanks in Advance.
There are not girls like this in abundance in Costa Rica. Costa Rica was settled by Spaniards, thus they have a more Spanish/European look for the most part, not like Guatemala which has more of these types of girls. Check out the Guatemala section here, I really don't know anything about Guatemala p4p.
Johnny Sax
10-02-07, 20:06
Pensiones onCalle 6, Dungeon, and Jetset are the kind of places you are looking for qbout $14 per girl on site. Invite them to your hotel $25 -50 for longer sessions. Make sure how many girls per room the hotel allows.
My wingman and I usually have a total of 3 - 4 girls per session makes a nice size pile.
Just to clarify, that was not me asking about group gropes, it was Alias.
I like the girl you posted. Most people probably won't, they'll tell you she's too plump. But I like her....
You are better off going somewhere in the Caribbean for "brown skin/broad nose" types. This might seem like a vintage 1960s American stereotype...sorry in advance...but you're almost perfectly describing a gal found where there was a whole lot of African ancestry in the mix. Brazil and the Caribbean Isles, especially Cuba, are good alternatives. So is The Philippines, if you go for Oriental types. Good luck.
I'm planning a trip over Thanksgiving to either San Jose or Santo Domingo. I haven't been to SJ for over a year, but enjoyed my first visit there. I've been to SD about seven times, mainly because I have a non-pro down there.
In SJ, I enjoyed the close proximity to where the girls are and the atmosphere of the Blue Marlin and Key Largo. It appears the price of girls and hotels are pretty much the same in both places, $80 for chica and $50-$60 for hotels. One thing I don't like about SD is getting slammed by the cost of a cab, even if just for a few miles $3, airport $30, shit like that.
Guess I'm looking for someone who has been to both places recently, to chime in and sway my vote. I stayed at the Morazan my first time, and didn't love it, but it was close and reasonable.
Alias,
I overheard this in the hallway.
In a very deep resonating voice:
"Luke, I am your father, Darth Vader, Lord of the Dark Side" "Princess Leia, is only out to get your money, son". "don't trust her. "
I got a kick out of the two threads from Alias & Member 2666. In the Photo Gallery section.
Just what we needed. A little comic relief into the serious business of mongering. The first one with photos of gals going down on each other. And then the one from you (Alias) saying you concured that you like those types of women.
Keep up the good work Alias. And maybe you will run into Pamela from Zona Blue, (I don't know her, except for what has been said about her here). Perhaps if your lucky, Pamela may have 'one of her special friends with her' and then you to can. Explore the 'dark side". LOL: p
Pura Vida Brother
Get Don's map have the location of all the cheap MP's in San Jose.
www.dongordo.com
Well guys. I've pretty much decided to take the trip to Costa Rica (this week) but I need one last bit of advice to determine if Costa Rica is for me.
What type of latinas are are San Jose?
Those of an Indian heritage or those of an European heritage.
My personal preference is a women with brown skin and a broad nose (see attached photo. I know she is probably dominican but I've been there more times than I care to count).
Can I find a women like her in abundance in San Jose?
Where?
If not Costa Rica, what Latin American country would you recommended?
Thanks in Advance.
I agree with others who have said that you are not likely to find htat type of look in abundance in Costa Rica. However, in San Jose I have seen that type of look sometimes. She has ALWAYS been from somewhere else, such as Colombia, Panama, or Dominican Republic.
I have lots of her look in DR. But if you want to try a new place, then I suggest Curacao and the Campo Alegre. There is a wide variety of chicas there including the look you like.
I been reading this forum for sometimes now and just join recently, first let me start by telling you a bit about myself and why I posted this message.
I work for a Marine company (I am not a seaman) and I have traveled most of the Far East (Singapore, Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Thai land, Vietnam, China) and Easter Europe (Romania, Croatia, Ukraine, Russia) and last India. I have never ever paid neither 100.00+ nor 90.00 USD, all of these countries I just named I put out 15.00 to 30.00 USD in the Far East and Easter Europe 20.00 to 60.00usd (60 was 1 time in Russia St. Petersburg only!). In these countries I stick out like Taliban A FOREIGNER and I do not speak 1 world of their language. You pay for 1 hour or 30 minuets if you shoot 1 Shot in 5 min she is out the door it is over. These are normal country girls with kick ass natural bodies no plastic what so ever.
I am traveling to Costa Rica for the first time for 3 nights, I know for a fact there are 2 types of *****s in this world.
1 The local *****es that local people go and that taxi drivers know abut and have no commitments to any company working on commission and 2 the *****es that patrol all the casinos and touristic areas where foreigner get sucker.
It is sad what I am reading that most pay 100+ for a laid, well if you have the money good for you. My advice to you all; if you know that the country you are going allow prostitution or is infested with RED ZONE then there should be enough for every one at a low cost. These girls in Central and South America are broke like joke places. It only cost so much because you have allow it and pay for it. Most likely there is an American or European Pimp or some guy that has seem to many movies
I thank you for the advise for the friendly hotels that allow girl to come back with low fees.
Ps The most beautiful woman in the world come from Russian and Ukraine, every other girl looks like a model of a magazine.
Wandering Man
10-05-07, 07:14
Just pulled into the SL tonite, three hours ago. Nice place, room right near the bar, but I brought my high noise travel fan and it shouldn't be a problem sleeping.
Several Ticas available, high female to male ratio around 9:30 pm. The 20 yo old hottie quoted $100 to start, immediately backed down to $80, but I quickly lost interest. Pretty sure I'll nail her this week for $50. Doing my best to keep prices down.
BTW, saw a post on the CR threads that someone got stopped with a copy of their passport and it wasn't "good enough" for the police. The airport has a sign advising you to carry just copies of your passport.
Do NOT rent a car, it's crazy to do so.
Member #2964
10-05-07, 23:12
Go get them. And remember keep it $50.00 and under for the time of your life.
No need to ever pay $100.00 You might as well marry her.
Regarding my previous post, I just arrive from San Jose.
First let me start, I arrive at 11:30PM really the only descent place open is around Del Ray Casinos, the food sucks! The girls are nothing then what Central American can offer. The transvestites (TICOS) WOW they can fool you they look way hotter then the locals but thank GOD for the TAXI to watch your back.
So first night at Del Ray, went to eat with my buddy BOOM 2 girls (1 Tica and the other Nica) come to the table with $100each, within 7Min out the door for $30 each and the motel 14.00.
If you are only in Costa Rica to get your Banana Pealed and want to pay the 150.00 bucks a night for a room in Del Ray or the Sport Lodge and want a very expensive driver to show you the local places then you are in the right place.
If you are going to Costa Rica to enjoy the country and various activities and get your Banana Pealed then stay in one of the Local Hotel Such as THE DON CARLOS HOTEL. This place is classy and at 90.00 per night my buddy and I got the family room that can accommodate us in 2 separate rooms, Yes it is true that you are not able to bring girls back to your room EVEN BETTER this means no loud noises and you sleep like a baby every night, every one that I spoke to about the Del Ray mostly complain about the noisy next door neighbors. From the Don Carlos Hotel next door and I mean next door is your best friend that you ever wanted (NEW FANTASY) brothel house for 20.00 you get 30min and 40 1 hour. You get a selection of 9 to 20 girls and after you finish they give you free bottle water and candy.
On Sunday I met a taxi driver his name was Mario (397-1876 or 235-2041) I was sick of the tourist food that San Jose offered and I explain what I wanted and he delivered 110% in food and girls. He took us to a massage/brothel place near our hotel were he is a local customer and for 4000 colones that is about 8.00/usd we got the works with local girls. He waited inside the place until we fished and he then took us back to our hotel and he only wanted 15.00/usd for his services. We then asked him to be in our hotel at 8am next day as we needed to buy souvenirs and again he delivered 110%, he took us to the local market were we got some good breakfast, great souvenirs we saved $$$ and since we had a little of time he took us to a massage/brothel WOW this men knows his TICA places and then he took us to the airport (he only wanted 25.00 we gave him 35.00)
This man I recommend and he speaks English, well my opinion talk to the locals outside the hotels, DO NOT PAY 50.00 OR 100+ FOR A GIRL. Save your money and enjoy costa rica and later get some desert at night.
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Dodger Bulldog
10-09-07, 22:11
He took us to a massage/brothel place near our hotel were he is a local customer and for 4000 colones that is about 8.00/usd we got the works with local girls. He waited inside the place until we fished and he then took us back to our hotel and he only wanted 15.00/usd for his services... he took us to a massage/brothel WOW this men knows his TICA placesThat's fantastic. Good for you, Habilio!
I am sure that the rest of us would also like to know the Tica places you are talking about.
It would be great if you share the actual names and/or addresses of these fine establishments with us.
That is really what this forum is all about, right? In fact, according to the first entry in Jackson's FAQ it is the sole purpose.
Because without the information, such a report really doesn't help any of us, does it?
Thanks in advance for your help!
DB
You act like you got such a great deal at that hotel. 90. 00 sounds alot more than 50. 00 (which I spend at sportmen) and 35. 00 I spend at morazan. And can have the girl in my room when ever I want. That great place your guide to you to (my guess) is 6th street. Which you can get *****s for 6. 00. You said 8. 00 so maybe your guide (pimp) was making 2. 00 off of you. I once need a room for my first nite. At before I even made it to the front desk at don carlos. The door man said. Sorry sir this is not the type of hotel you are looking for. Which he was right. Since this is a site for guys looking to fuck *****s. Maybe you should post your hotel reviews on yahoo. Or orbit. Again why would anyone want to stay in a hotel if you can't bring a girl back to it.
it sounds like he's talking about one of the pensiones type places on calle 6 but the women there are so disgusting i wouldn't touch them with your dick.
i'm also pretty surprised, if he's really a veteran of the far east (and its famous ladyboy/katoeys), that he was so "wow"ed let alone fooled by the tico transvestis or that he thought they looked so hot, since they've always seemed pretty obvious to me and pitiful looking compared to what one sees all the time in the los.
as for the don carlos, i've stayed there a few times. it will be very quiet when you get back late at night after going about town (walk on tiptoes on the tiled floors so as not to disturb the early-to-bed crowd), but can get pretty noisy early in the morning (starting around 6am) when all the eco-tourists get up, grab breakfast and try to get ready for their 7am day tour pickups (which is fine if you are one of them). if you really want quiet, i recommend the hotel castillo just a few doors up the hill from there. the rooms are just about as good, the price is lower, they allow chicas with no fee, and i never heard a peep from my neighbors
Regulr Travlr
10-10-07, 01:53
That's fantastic. Good for you, Habilio!
I am sure that the rest of us would also like to know the Tica places you are talking about.
It would be great if you share the actual names and/or addresses of these fine establishments with us.
That is really what this forum is all about, right? In fact, according to the first entry in Jackson's FAQ it is the sole purpose.
Because without the information, such a report really doesn't help any of us, does it?
Thanks in advance for your help!
DB
How can you critiicize this report for lacking information? Apparently not as the great master believes it should be nominated as a Report of Distinction. It must meet all the criteria. Oh wait, it is simply from a new member and longer than 2 sentences.
Now it is not a bad report and I appreciate any new member contributing information. But Report of Distinction, come on.
Hello guys I am sorry if you think I am not helping the forum. You are going to visit a country that is infested with Prostitutes. When I began to read the forum I was amaze what people are paying for CENTRAL AMERICAN GIRLS!
You think that local people pay 60 to 150 dollars for a girl, COME ON! The monthly average income for a working person IN COSTA RICA is about $300/usd. You think local men go to del ray to get girls, HELL NO they know where thing are for locals.
This is all you need Mr Mario(397-1876 or 25-2041). He does not have to baby sit you, just call him tell him what you want and he will take you. If you do not like it tell him and he will accommodate you. If you want plastic looking girls stay in the del ray or the casinos.
Keep paying 100 dollars, by December they will be asking for 150, like the previous poster said for that just married her.
Next Trip place is Dominican Republic.
Mr Jetsetter
10-10-07, 05:11
Habilio1,
A couple of questions. Since when do rooms at the Sportsmens Lodge (not the "Sport Lodge") or Del Rey cost $150? Do you really think your taxista's offer of $25 for a trip to the airport is a good deal?
Also, have to agree with others that more details are in order.
Don't mean to be too critical, but I am dumbfounded that your report could possibly be considered as a "report of distinction!"
Kid Brooklyn
10-11-07, 04:28
You think that local people pay 60 to 150 dollars for a girl, COME ON! The monthly average income for a working person IN COSTA RICA is about $300/usd. You think local men go to del ray to get girls, HELL NO they know where thing are for locals.
You are not local people... you are a gringo tourist, so expect to pay gringo tourist prices. I'm not being a smart-ass, just telling you the truth.
Johnny Sax
10-11-07, 09:34
Regarding my previous post, I just arrive from San Jose.
First let me start, I arrive at 11:30PM really the only descent place open is around Del Ray Casinos, the food sucks! The girls are nothing then what Central American can offer. The transvestites (TICOS) WOW they can fool you they look way hotter then the locals but thank GOD for the TAXI to watch your back.
No offense, but if you think those travestis are hot, you may need glasses. They are hot FOR TRAVESTIS, but anyone can see they are not real chicas!
So first night at Del Ray, went to eat with my buddy BOOM 2 girls (1 Tica and the other Nica) come to the table with $100each, within 7Min out the door for $30 each and the motel 14.00.
Very good job if you really got them for $30 each. Forgive me if I'm a little skeptical, but if you did get them for that, good job!
If you are only in Costa Rica to get your Banana Pealed and want to pay the 150.00 bucks a night for a room in Del Ray or the Sport Lodge and want a very expensive driver to show you the local places then you are in the right place.
If you are going to Costa Rica to enjoy the country and various activities and get your Banana Pealed then stay in one of the Local Hotel Such as THE DON CARLOS HOTEL. This place is classy and at 90.00 per night my buddy and I got the family room that can accommodate us in 2 separate rooms, Yes it is true that you are not able to bring girls back to your room EVEN BETTER this means no loud noises and you sleep like a baby every night, every one that I spoke to about the Del Ray mostly complain about the noisy next door neighbors.
Or you can stay at the Morazan for $45/night including taxes and safe key, no chica fees, and one block to the Del Rey and Key Largo!
The Don Carlos is not chica friendly, so why promote it here? Hell, you can stay in dozens of places that aren't chica friendly if that's your game. Yes, the DC is across from New Fantasy, so that's cool, but who wants to pay $90/night for a non-chica-friendly hotel and be with the families and eco-tourists who get up at 6am dragging the rug rats around and waking yer ass up after you've been out mongering til 2-3am?
From the Don Carlos Hotel next door and I mean next door is your best friend that you ever wanted (NEW FANTASY) brothel house for 20.00 you get 30min and 40 1 hour. You get a selection of 9 to 20 girls and after you finish they give you free bottle water and candy.
I don't recall EVER seeing 20 girls in New Fantasy. Maybe 12-15 max, on a good day. And the last 3 times I've been in there, the selection was average at best; I moved on down to Zona Blue. But hey if it's good it's good. You can stay at the Morazan for $45/night, and walk down there in the morning, it's only about a 6 block walk. At night you can take a cab there for $2 or so, just tell them you're going to the Don Carlos, not the New Fantasy so you don't have any problems with the driver asking for commissions.
On Sunday I met a taxi driver his name was Mario (397-1876 or 235-2041) I was sick of the tourist food that San Jose offered and I explain what I wanted and he delivered 110% in food and girls. He took us to a massage/brothel place near our hotel were he is a local customer and for 4000 colones that is about 8.00/usd we got the works with local girls. He waited inside the place until we fished and he then took us back to our hotel and he only wanted 15.00/usd for his services.
$15 sounds like a lot for a trip to a place NEAR your hotel and they wait for something like $4/hour if I recall, so I think you got gouged a bit. In fact, I just found the NEW prices for taxis, as follows:
First Kilometer: ¢365 to ¢405
Additional Kilometre ¢340 to ¢380
Waiting - per hour ¢2.015 to ¢2.205
Stalled in traffic per hour ¢3.400 to ¢3.800
So waiting is about $4/hour. I think you overpaid a bit, but okay, he gave you some good leads on girls, apparently, but you have neglected to tell us a name or location of this super cheap place. How did the girls look there? Any photos?
We then asked him to be in our hotel at 8am next day as we needed to buy souvenirs and again he delivered 110%, he took us to the local market were we got some good breakfast, great souvenirs we saved $$$ and since we had a little of time he took us to a massage/brothel WOW this men knows his TICA places and then he took us to the airport (he only wanted 25.00 we gave him 35.00)
Okay, so he took you to the local market - that's about a $2 ride. He waited while you shopped, that might have been another $4, max. Then he took you to another brothel, (again: where? and what is the name?) so that might have been another $4 max, and then to the airport, a $15 ride I think it is, now, so all in all, that's about $25 (MAXIMUM - it was probably less because you probably did not spend an hour eating or an hour at the massage parlor) which is what he charged you and you gave him a 40% tip. That's great for not making us look like dumb tourists throwing too much money around!
This man I recommend and he speaks English, well my opinion talk to the locals outside the hotels, DO NOT PAY 50.00 OR 100+ FOR A GIRL. Save your money and enjoy costa rica and later get some desert at night.
Personally, I've always found that taxi drivers are a last resort. They are only looking for a commission from some recommended place 95% of the time, and usually I've found their recommendations lacking. You were happy with the recommendations, so good for you - I guess it was worth it to you. But how many times have you been to Costa Rica? What do you have to compare it to? There are lots of dirt cheap massage parlors around, some of us like them and some of us don't, but I doubt there are many (or any?) that aren't on the lists here, that you can go without a taxi driver to tell you where it is and wait for you while you go in and out. Why pay to wait when you can just get another cab when you're done?
NO offense, Habilio1,it's just that you walk into town here and act like you know everything just because you had some taxi driver show you a few places that you could have found here anyway. Then for some unfathomable reason the EDITOR wants to call this a report of distinction, and it seems that the rank and file here seem to disagree with him. Well it's his site and I really don't give a rodent's behind whether it's posted as a "Report of Distinction" or not, but I just don't see how it's anything all that informative.
But anyway, thanks for the report. Really. But next time, tone down the attitude and give us some names and locations, please.
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Professor 1
10-13-07, 17:10
You are not local people... you are a gringo tourist, so expect to pay gringo tourist prices. I'm not being a smart-ass, just telling you the truth.You do speak the truth, but a visitor like me does not pay the gringo prices. As I once said to a HDR girl in Spanish, "You are certainly worth cien, but I do not pay tourist prices. Cien is for the gringo North Americans. " She laughed and retorted that since I was a nice guy who spoke a little Spanish, she would not charge me such rates. I thanked her very much, got her a glass of wine, and said that I was embarrassed that I only had US$30 for her. She took it.
You do speak the truth, but a visitor like me does not pay the gringo prices. As I once said to a HDR girl in Spanish, "You are certainly worth cien, but I do not pay tourist prices. Cien is for the gringo North Americans. " She laughed and retorted that since I was a nice guy who spoke a little Spanish, she would not charge me such rates. I thanked her very much, got her a glass of wine, and said that I was embarrassed that I only had US$30 for her. She took it.What makes you think that even $30 is the tico price? How many ticos do you see in th HDR taking chicas out for $30? And how many BM chicas are there really that would settle for $30 unless it was really just for a rush job (so they can get back to the BM for the real money) or one of the truly homely puta wannabees. Even the just moderately attractive shouldn't have to work too hard to find plenty of guys that would pay $10-$20 more or even double or more than the $30 you say you paid. And that is still much more than the $8/hr Habillo says he paid at his mystery place elsewhere in SJ.
The ticos don't go to places like the BM for pussy because it is already way overpriced even at the $30 you say you paid. They go to sleazy MP's and brothels much more akin to places like Muses, cha cha cha, etc. where the girls are usually ugly, the GRINGO price is $20-25/hr and we can only guess at the price that they're allowed to pay.
Whether you want to believe it or not, whether you're a visitor or an expat, there is a gringo price and there's a tico price. You can try to hide the fact that you're a gringo (speaking spanish might help a little, though Habillo boasted about sticking out like a foreigner not speaking 1 world of their language), but once you show up and open your mouth they'll know who you are and assume by that that you have more money then most ticos. You may get a discount over the inflated list price, but you'll never get the same rate that poor locals pay.
You and Habilio keep talking about the Cien like it is the normal price gringos PAY when it isn't at all. It is the normal chica ASKING price and the price that SOME STUPID gringos pay. I seriously doubt there are many guys on this board that normally pay anywhere near that price.
Davidb3069
10-13-07, 19:51
You do speak the truth, but a visitor like me does not pay the gringo prices. As I once said to a HDR girl in Spanish, "You are certainly worth cien, but I do not pay tourist prices. Cien is for the gringo North Americans. " She laughed and retorted that since I was a nice guy who spoke a little Spanish, she would not charge me such rates. I thanked her very much, got her a glass of wine, and said that I was embarrassed that I only had US$30 for her. She took it.
Even back more than 5 years ago when I was last in CR at Del Rey & other close locations, $50 during the day and $80-100 at night was the norm. While there will always be exceptions, paying $30 is hard to believe (as someone else said). Although I can say I got it for $0 several times but that's because I lived there for more than a year and they knew I was a nice guy. I frequently bought them lunch so I'd have someone to eat with. One of those had a day job and woke up to go off to her real job. My regular GFE gave me a freebie with her lesbian GF for my birthday one time too (could have skipped that...it was not a great experience!). I didn't expect it for free and when I did it was a nice gesture to show they liked me.
Offering $30 for sex will certainly narrow the field of opportunity. The girls back 5+ years ago would have laughed at you and moved on quickly. Can't imagine they have gotten much softer.
David B.
Davidb3069
10-13-07, 20:03
You and Habilio keep talking about the Cien like it is the normal price gringos PAY when it isn't at all. It is the normal chica ASKING price and the price that SOME STUPID gringos pay. I seriously doubt there are many guys on this board that normally pay anywhere near that price.
You're right on the money. When I lived there 5+ years ago, I generally only took them in the day. They generaly asked for and got $50. There were enough guys rolling in and out of there that they had a good chance of getting picked up if they held their ground. I used to negociate for some gringos too that couldn't speak enough spanish.
You have to live someplace like that a long time to get to know the girls well enough that they're going to cut you much of a break. You'll never get tico prices - that's for sure. Back when I was there, you wouldn't even see ANY ticos hanging out at places like Del Rey...except maybe in the casino. They knew the girls weren't coming down to their levels. You'd have to hit one of the places closeby to get a break (like 747 that was open back then).
I saw the video that someone posted on U-Tube and I've gotta say that the girls were NEVER that overweight when I was there. They've really porked up.
David B.
Davidb3069
10-13-07, 20:20
Next Trip place is Dominican Republic.
Hate to break the news to you, you're not going to get girls in DR for $8 either (if I recall correctly, it was generally about $30 though if you picked them out of a bar on a slow night). Lived in Sosua 6 months and from the looks of the postings of yours, you are in for a real treat. CR (San Jose) is disney world compared to DR. The pure poverty in DR makes life on a daily basis a bit more challenging. It's really quite raw there. My first trip I got off the plane and rode into town in the taxi and thought to myself, "what in the hell did I just do??". Took a while to get used to.
David B.
Eggsalad,
Information is not as detail in other forum as it is in the Costa Rica forum. Where in South America is another place to visit. Columbia has some to offer and most say Bazil is high. Can you give more detail about South America other than Costa Rica?
Davidb3069
10-14-07, 18:56
Eggsalad,
Information is not as detail in other forum as it is in the Costa Rica forum. Where in South America is another place to visit. Columbia has some to offer and most say Bazil is high. Can you give more detail about South America other than Costa Rica?
You should try Quito, Ecuador. It beats San Jose panties down. A whole lot cheaper. Hotels and hostels range from $9 to $100+ a night. Food is $2-5 in general per meal. Taxi is $1-5 depending on the distance. Drinks (mixed or beer) are generally $1 to $3. 2 mixed drinks in places as specials are $3. In Chongos and some nightclubs, girls are $7 to $20 for 15-30 minutes depending on the place. Airline tickets tend to be $100-200 more round-trip though over other nearby destinations (except for Colombia which is always more).
David
Eggsalad,
Information is not as detail in other forum as it is in the Costa Rica forum. Where in South America is another place to visit. Columbia has some to offer and most say Bazil is high. Can you give more detail about South America other than Costa Rica?
Answering your question meaningfully would require a very lengthy answer. There are 13 countries in South America, and each one has its own threads. Since you appear to be new to this forum, or at least to posting, I think it's best to inform you that most posters appreciate it when you have done your own homework, read the forums on your own, and then ask questions. Nobody wants to do somebody else's work for them.
Since I'm in a good mood, I'll give you a short answer. Since you seem to be looking for inexpensive sex in SA, Davidb 3069 is right on about Quito. Other off-the-beaten-path places you might want to consider are La Paz, Bolivia (but most of the girls are butt ugly); Asuncion, Paraguay (hard to get to, and Americans need a visa); and Montevideo, Uruguay. In all these places quality pussy can be had for US$20/hour, maybe a little more for a quality brothel in Quito. But for God's sake, RTFF!
L
Professor 1
10-14-07, 19:39
What makes you think that even $30 is the tico price? How many ticos do you see in th HDR taking chicas out for $30? And how many BM chicas are there really that would settle for $30 unless it was really just for a rush jobThis was purely a negotiation strategy, nothing more. It worked in my case.
Interesting posts. I have been traveling to CR for about four years considently, but was first there 20 years ago, for context. First, I think the notion that only ugly girls are found at the cheaper place is dead wrong. As was stated, MOST girls are not attractive, yet I have found many very cute and sexy women on Calle 6. Yes, you have to do a fair amount of searching. I enjoy that part of the game. I like to go early, around noon, and have half hour sessons with severals girls, looking for the ones that preform the best service. I get their numbers, and easily negotiate TLN for 60-8- bucks or so, depending upon the girl. Do I find 10s? No. But certainly 7s, often Nicas, many new to the game. Girls how just start at these places often find out about them from freinds, and are not aware of the full scope of the P4P scene for some time.
Fortuntaly, I prefer Nicas and Ticas in looks to the overlly engenered, typical DR Colombiana.
As with many of us, I have my own style, and it works for me. Prior to my sessons in the MPs, I make it clear that I tip for outstanding service, and tell them what I mean. I also say that I am looking for esepcially enthusiastic young ladies who would like to make more money on the side. This seems to at least get me what I want.
As far as the DR/BM-its like a box of chocolates. You have to really have your negotiating statagy in order, and be willing to walk away. My last two trips I did not pull from the DR at all, but from the SL, the low end MPs, and some old favorites. Also, don't forget the medium end MPs off of Paseo Colon
Not sure why I am posting this now, but it felt like a good time.
Psychman. Nice! Good to see a true post and how to look for action on the cheap end, as I to go to 6th street in the daytime. In fact I will be looking around today about 3. 00 a little late for me but my flight gets in at 1:30. Anyway what you said is very true, searching is half the fun as I found a 8 in one of the shit holes. Cost me like 8. 00 with tip but this girl had a body of a 18 year old and a cute face. And did whatever I wanted. Yes I didn't feel good about the bed (if you want to call it that) and the place looks like something you see in a old mexican movie. But that girl brings me back to that area on every trip! Yes I have never seen her again, as you say it could of her first week and since she was the hottest one there. Maybe she is working in a better place now! But as most of us know those tica men like the girls a little heavy so what we (gringos) find hot they may pass on.
Member #2666
10-17-07, 14:27
Interesting posts. I have been traveling to CR for about four years considently, but was first there 20 years ago, for context. First, I think the notion that only ugly girls are found at the cheaper place is dead wrong. As was stated, MOST girls are not attractive, yet I have found many very cute and sexy women on Calle 6. Yes, you have to do a fair amount of searching. I enjoy that part of the game. I like to go early, around noon, and have half hour sessons with severals girls, looking for the ones that preform the best service. I get their numbers, and easily negotiate TLN for 60-8- bucks or so, depending upon the girl. Do I find 10s? No. But certainly 7s, often Nicas, many new to the game. Girls how just start at these places often find out about them from freinds, and are not aware of the full scope of the P4P scene for some time.
Fortuntaly, I prefer Nicas and Ticas in looks to the overlly engenered, typical DR Colombiana.
As with many of us, I have my own style, and it works for me. Prior to my sessons in the MPs, I make it clear that I tip for outstanding service, and tell them what I mean. I also say that I am looking for esepcially enthusiastic young ladies who would like to make more money on the side. This seems to at least get me what I want.
As far as the DR/BM-its like a box of chocolates. You have to really have your negotiating statagy in order, and be willing to walk away. My last two trips I did not pull from the DR at all, but from the SL, the low end MPs, and some old favorites. Also, don't forget the medium end MPs off of Paseo Colon
Not sure why I am posting this now, but it felt like a good time.
I can only add a little tid-bit to this perfectly dead-on post
I have taken an 8 and 9 from the 6th street /747/cha cha cha/ Monaco type places my only point being that maybe we were there at different times...
I'll be back over there today and let ya'll know how I do
I have taken an 8 and 9 from the 6th street /747/cha cha cha/ Monaco type placesI should make it clear when I said I wouldn't touch the chicas with your dick, I was NOT referring to the 747/cha cha cha/ Monaco tico-type places.
I frequently check out those places myself. They're certainly hit or miss but are definitely worth a check. However, those places are still NOT $8/hr places. 747 was like 4500c per HALF hour (~$9) last time I was there (before any tip or recent price increases). Next door, Cha cha cha was more like 8K/half and 12K/hr and so at least twice as much as what Habilio was talking about. Not only that but neither of those places are even on Calle 6 (rather one street over on Calle 4), so shouldn't have been confused with what we were talking about anyway. OTOH, Bar Monaco is on Calle 6 but it is more of a night-time bar (w/on-premises activity) than a day-time MP and their rates are 10K/HALF hour or ~$19/HALF and so WELL over twice the amount that Habilio was talking about as well.
The Pensiones that are further down on Calle 6 are in a whole 'nother (lower and sleazier) class than any of the tico places that you other guys seem to be referring to. I'm not saying that even the Pensiones might not OCCASIONALLY have a 5-6 quality girl who doesn't know her worth, but I suspect IF they do it would be extremely few and far between and hardly worth bothering to check. Last time I poked my head into one of those places, I felt like rushing back to my hotel and washing my dick ... and I didn't even go for a session. I suggest anyone who goes there double wraps with extra thick condoms and bring a blind fold and nose plugs.
This was purely a negotiation strategy, nothing more. It worked in my case.Professor, you keep missing my point. I don't know or care about whether your claims of having paid $30 are true or not or why you offered that amount. My point was that your suggestion that even that was the rockbottom price that a tico would pay is simply wrong. Tico's don't bother with HDR/BM hookers who can get the ridiculuous amounts that many gringos will pay. As others have pointed out, even we can do much better than that by going to the tico places. And we're not getting any special local discount at those places either.
With all due respect Prolijo, if you believe that the girls from the DR are somehow cleaner, I would submit that is pure fantasy..We clearly disagree about the potential at the most low end places, but i KNOW that great deals can be found for those with the patience. Some of us enjoy the ritual of the chase, the hunt, and find that appealing...
As they say, YMMV, and to each his own...As you implied, you peaked your head in, but did not really spend some time in these places, to wait to see who comes out of the rooms (yes, the best ones are taken quckly, just like at ZB and NF)...
Its a big mongring world out there; this board is about helping people know their options..
ThunderPants
10-17-07, 22:24
I should make it clear when I said I wouldn't touch the chicas with your dick, I was NOT referring to the 747/cha cha cha/ Monaco tico-type places.
I frequently check out those places myself. They're certainly hit or miss but are definitely worth a check. However, those places are still NOT $8/hr places. 747 was like 4500c per HALF hour (~$9) last time I was there (before any tip or recent price increases). Next door, Cha cha cha was more like 8K/half and 12K/hr and so at least twice as much as what Habilio was talking about. Not only that but neither of those places are even on Calle 6 (rather one street over on Calle 4), so shouldn't have been confused with what we were talking about anyway. OTOH, Bar Monaco is on Calle 6 but it is more of a night-time bar (w/on-premises activity) than a day-time MP and their rates are 10K/HALF hour or ~$19/HALF and so WELL over twice the amount that Habilio was talking about as well.
The Pensiones that are further down on Calle 6 are in a whole 'nother (lower and sleazier) class than any of the tico places that you other guys seem to be referring to. I'm not saying that even the Pensiones might not OCCASIONALLY have a 5-6 quality girl who doesn't know her worth, but I suspect IF they do it would be extremely few and far between and hardly worth bothering to check. Last time I poked my head into one of those places, I felt like rushing back to my hotel and washing my dick ... and I didn't even go for a session. I suggest anyone who goes there double wraps with extra thick condoms and bring a blind fold and nose plugs.Professor, you keep missing my point. I don't know or care about whether your claims of having paid $30 are true or not or why you offered that amount. My point was that your suggestion that even that was the rockbottom price that a tico would pay is simply wrong. Tico's don't bother with HDR/BM hookers who can get the ridiculuous amounts that many gringos will pay. As others have pointed out, even we can do much better than that by going to the tico places. And we're not getting any special local discount at those places either.
During recent visit August 2007 I visited Calle 6 on a daily basis found 4 worth doing including one that I brought back to the hotel for three extended visits, at Pensiones paid 7 dollars including a condom at hotel paid $50 for an extendedl session that included my wingman 2 pops each, 4 hours with eager provider on my scale a 7 is a great bargin.
Right now I wish I was there because there were at least 3 I would like to sample
Waiting to see what comes out of the rooms is very good advice the turn over is guick and at Pensiones every room is often occupied so there are just as many behind the curtin as on display
Jet Set is also worth a look the girls often are gone for 2 or 3 days so checking every day is advised
Professor 1
10-17-07, 23:09
I can only add a little tid-bit to this perfectly dead-on post
I have taken an 8 and 9 from the 6th street /747/cha cha cha/ Monaco type places my only point being that maybe we were there at different times...
I'll be back over there today and let ya'll know how I doAll of you guys are on point. I had a girl at 747 on night. She looked so much like the HOT, HOT daughter of a friend of mine, all of 20, that I sent an e-mail to my friend the very next day to see if her daughter made a trip to CR.
Professor 1
10-17-07, 23:16
Professor, you keep missing my point. I don't know or care about whether your claims of having paid $30 are true or not or why you offered that amount. My point was that your suggestion that even that was the rockbottom price that a tico would pay is simply wrong. Tico's don't bother with HDR/BM hookers who can get the ridiculuous amounts that many gringos will pay. As others have pointed out, even we can do much better than that by going to the tico places. And we're not getting any special local discount at those places either.I'm sorry, Pro. I do agree with you on this. We can do much better. It's like anywhere, including the good old U. S. Of A. , you cannot undercut the locals. For example, girls that I know in one northeastern city give it (basically) to guys in the neighborhood, but charge some outside more than $75. I am with you.
of course ymmv applies to just about anything most of us write. i've also seen pics of chicas that were proudly posted by members on this board that "i wouldn't touch with your dick". obviously, they'd disagree with me on those chicas too. btw, i'd be really curious to see a pic of that "7" (on your scale) that was from the pensione.
i will give you this, when i say "peek my head in", i wasn't being literal. i don't leave my butt hanging out on the street but actually go into these places and take a good look around (before i turn around and go running in horror for the street :) ). seriously i've spent a good half hour at the pensione, not because i saw anything i liked but because my wingman went in for a session and i was waiting for him to finish. i've also spent the better part of an afternoon sitting and drinking at the bar of jocelyn's (now muses), again not because of any chicas i liked there as much as to just chill out, toss down a few imperials and wait for the rain to stop (and talk with a really chatty expat hustler that was also hanging out there). so it is not for lack of looking or patience. lets just leave it as our having different standards.
as for cleanliness, its not like i'm advocating unsafe sex with hdr/bm chicas or anything either. but i do think it makes a difference if a chica does 2-3 guys in a day (and some bm chicas do even that) or 20-30 (which is not outside the realm of possibility at places like the pensiones). the latter doesn't leave a lot of time to clean up properly between sessions. i also think that any chica that would have sex for whatever her share of that $7 would be, would also be much more willing to go bareback with their customers for a few colones more (or even the same price). also, as questionable as some of those chicas might be at the higher end places i've never made the unpleasant discovery of that overpowering fishy smell once i started to "stir up the pot". i can't make the same claim about the lower end places.
of course ymmv applies to just about anything most of us write. i've also seen pics of chicas that were proudly posted by members on this board that "i wouldn't touch with your dick". obviously, they'd disagree with me on those chicas too. btw, i'd be really curious to see a pic of that "7" (on your scale) that was from the pensione.
i will give you this, when i say "peek my head in", i wasn't being literal. i don't leave my butt hanging out on the street but actually go into these places and take a good look around (before i turn around and go running in horror for the street :) ). seriously i've spent a good half hour at the pensione, not because i saw anything i liked but because my wingman went in for a session and i was waiting for him to finish. i've also spent the better part of an afternoon sitting and drinking at the bar of jocelyn's (now muses), again not because of any chicas i liked there as much as to just chill out, toss down a few imperials and wait for the rain to stop (and talk with a really chatty expat hustler that was also hanging out there). so it is not for lack of looking or patience. lets just leave it as our having different standards.
as for cleanliness, its not like i'm advocating unsafe sex with hdr/bm chicas or anything either. but i do think it makes a difference if a chica does 2-3 guys in a day (and some bm chicas do even that) or 20-30 (which is not outside the realm of possibility at places like the pensiones). the latter doesn't leave a lot of time to clean up properly between sessions. i also think that any chica that would have sex for whatever her share of that $7 would be, would also be much more willing to go bareback with their customers for a few colones more (or even the same price). also, as questionable as some of those chicas might be at the higher end places i've never made the unpleasant discovery of that overpowering fishy smell once i started to "stir up the pot". i can't make the same claim about the lower end places.
funny, the guys who tell me stories about girls geing bareback have usually met them at the dr or sl...but, that is a poor sample, as i don't know a lot of guys who pull girls from the low end places....also, many guys who pull girls form the dr really don't thing about money (thus the current high prices), and so offering an extra hundred bucks (or more) for full service for some guys means very litte, so your argument about who would or would not go bareback is debatable...
i am glad you don't have access to my dick- with all the girls you would not touch, i would never get laid!! :) (this is a joke, to be clear, so there is a minimum of upset)
Overall, I liked Costa Rica but not as much as the other locations I mentioned. Asia is cheaper and South America has better looking women at the same price
I hope you enjoyed my report.
EggsaladHey, great report. I'm just doing some research as I'll be in Miami on business in February and was thinking of hoping over somewhere for a few days serious mongering. CR was looking pretty good but mention some SA places being a lot better, where would you (or anyone else out there) recomend, I've never been to either SA ot CA but live in Dubai and have a lot of experience in this part of the world and SE Asia.
Keep it hard and horny.
I've been going to San Jose 2-4 times per year for the past 10 years, so I have a pretty good lay of the land. I always make a few runs by the pensiones on Calle 6 during the day. There are always a couple of diamonds in the rough to be found with a little luck and persistence. Many, many times I have done a woman on Calle 6 for less than $10, only to see her again that evening at places including Hotel Park, Margaritas, BM, and KL, with Gringos for the going rate at each of those establishments. I just have to sit back and giggle when I see a gringo pay 10 times as much for the same thing I did earlier in the day for chump change. Amazing what a little makeup and a change of clothes does for some of these women.
BTW, the blonde lady who used to own/ run Jocelyn's is available at Molino Rojo, where she worked before she took over Jocelyn's. Very energetic and highly recommended.
Happy hunting
Snook
Davidb3069
10-18-07, 16:12
at places including Hotel Park, Margaritas, BM, and KL, with Gringos for the going rate at each of those establishments. I just have to sit back and giggle when I see a gringo pay 10 times as much for the same thing I did earlier in the day for chump change. Amazing what a little makeup and a change of clothes does for some of these women.
I always heard the crazy things that go on at Hotel Park but never did make it in there. Sounded like my kind of place though.
Up until my recent trips to Quito, I had never used any of the casas/chongos before on any of my trips. Always brought them back to my hotel. Quito opened my eyes to the good deals in those places.
David B.
Just got into town last nite. Went over to Key Largo. I was just doing some recon since this my first trip here. Today I had breakfast, massage, b*, massage,full service, lunch and drinks with Anna and Danella all for 45 each. I no from reading this board that this was alot but I still have 2 days for more fun. LIFE IS GOOD !
Hola All,
I am currently in San Jose housesitting a large home....until it sells. Will probably be here another 40 to 50 days or so.
I had to tell everyone about a special gal I met in San Jose....and I am sharing her with you, because she needs the business, and because she is such a nice little sweetheart, and because I am 62 years old, and she is only 20, and I am realistic enough to know that she could do lots better than me....if she wanted a steady Novio (boyfriend).
She looks even younger than 20,, with a very sweet pretty countenence (face), and a very mild, unhurried manner about her. She speaks passable English, and understands almost everything that you say to her in English.
She has just impressed the hell out of me....and I think she is about 2 to 3 cuts above the average working Chica .....at least from my considerable experience.
I will try to post a couple of pics later. She is very, very pretty, about 5 ft 5 ins, and has a super nice petite body. Not quite a "spinner"....but pretty close to it.
Her name is Alexa. She takes some courses in administration at the University of Costa Rica, works at Burger King during the daytime to support her two younger sisters, and works the P4P deal when she needs extra cash.
She is a far cry from the usual putas that you encounter at the Del Rey or Beatle Bar........and I am beginning to think that I must be crazy to be doing this......and sharing her with everyone here. But hey.....I know how the land lays.
I am just a little bit over the hill for the likes of her....... She seems to like me, with hugs and kisses, and such....but I really think that is because of her sweet nature, and not due to the fact that she sees me as just another " John " in her life.
I actually paid $ 100.00 for a couple of hours of her company tonight....which is the very first time in my life, that Ive paid more than $ 50. to 60.00 for a session with a working girl.
And yea....I know we are not supposed to do that.....bargain with them, and keep the prices low and realalistic----but I just could not help myself .....with giving her a full hundred. And it was worth every penny.....I will add.
Tomorrow I will perhaps find myself getting a pretty good BJ and laid ( for less than $ 25.00) at either the Osasis MP or around the corner at the No Name MP....across from Super Bingo.....out on Pasio Calon.....but tonight I popped for Cien....because I thought what the hell.....I am here to enjoy myself, and not worry about what the price of a piece of A-- costs. And as stated above----I think I got my moneys worth tonight with Alexa.
I only wish I was younger, so I could take full advantage of a true GFE type of relationship with her.
Her figure is super....all natural, no silicone....and no tricks like so many of the other gals who are plying this trade in San Jose.
She is going to be one of my special friends....and I will see her from time to time...have her out to the house for dinner, and such....but I am one of those guys who is not possessive and wants an exclusive relationship with her.
Besides I am too cheap.....borato (sp) as they say here to try to think that I could completely monopolize her time and talents.
I can be her friend, and part time lover, and still have no problems with her working the other side of the street....as she needs that to maintain her life here.
I will list her cell phone number, her rates, and try to post a couple of pics of her in the next day or so on this forum.
I have a digital camera, and already have the pics, but will need to get into a internet cafe to get them posted to this forum.
I think if you are going to be in San Jose, that it would behove you to give her a try......and I will also be posting a listing for her ( for gratis....nothing in it for me...except her friendship and goodwill) later on Craigs List - Costa Rica.
More to follow.
Steve
Hola, I will be posting a small web page for my friend Alexa today. Stay tuned. Steve
I'm booked at the Balmoral hotel, seemed like a good deal on Orbitz, for $55 per night. Anybody got any scoop on it; gf, cost for guests, etc? This is my second visit to SJ, but never stayed here.
Attacker79
10-25-07, 05:41
Hola, I will be posting a small web page for my friend Alexa today. Stay tuned. SteveI am a newbie here and planning to travel around the last week of Nov-2007. Please post alexa's page. Thanks in advance.
I'm booked at the Balmoral hotel, seemed like a good deal on Orbitz, for $55 per night. Anybody got any scoop on it; gf, cost for guests, etc? This is my second visit to SJ, but never stayed here.I believe they have something like $20 guest fees everytime you bring a chica back to your room. Others may disagree but I wouldn't exactly call that monger-friendly but I suppose it is better than not allowing any chica guests at all. You might want to seriously think about changing your bookings.
Hola Guys,
I am having a little trouble getting the web page for Alexa - Special Gal - San Jose to work. Will update later and put her page up on Craigs List - Costa Rica.
Steve
David Lasker
10-25-07, 18:36
i stayed at the balmoral for 6 days last month and they were incredible. yes, they do have chica fees, but it works out well if you are a first timer. they charge 15$, but they are pros about it and they check papers of the girls and check their id's. they offer a great breakfast and i am still craving them every morning since i visited. yumm! the best thing about the hotel is that it is grrreat for a first timer; you can get the lay of the land just by looking out your window and checking out the peeps on the sidewalk below. i learned alot just by doing that, and quickly found out that there is very little crime in the area and i was not as uptight. the rooms were spotless and perfect every day when cleaned. everyone there was so damned friendly and helpful. although they project an image of being non chica friendly, the guards were checking out the ladies as they were paraded in by their gringos. they are cool and the price is incredible for this first class hotel, you will save mucho dinero just on cab rides just because of the location being so optimum!
pm me if you want to know more.
Im a budget guy usually no more than $50 a pop for *hotel action otherwise $6 - 25 for 30/40 minutes onsite.
Could a guy like me stay busy in san jose for 25 days or would I be climbing the walls after 2 weeks ?
Ive been to jaco beach and I didnt like the vibe. I found CR to be unfriendly compared to peru or ecuador.
I have been putting off a san jose trip due to the negative feed back about too many gringos etc. I prefer not to be around other americans(Im american) when I travel but I dont want to miss out on a good time either.
The information and lists on this forum are great. I wouldnt be lost thats for sure. Thanks too everyone.
Ive mongered in dr,ecuador,argentina,lima,mexico,el salvador
*Im sorry this should have been in the general info thread.
Thanks for the responses on the Balmoral.
I was in SJ just under two years ago and stayed at the Morazan. They charged me $10 - $15 for a chica guest there too. $15 bucks a pop isn't bad in my mind. I'm not there to set a record on chica count :)
I'm looking forward to my return. Happy hunting.
david,
with all due respect, i have to wonder whether we're talking about the same balmoral or the same city. to say that there is "very little crime in the area" based on "looking out your window and checking out the peeps on the sidewalk below", displays an incredible ignorance of what really goes on around that area. yes, you could save a buck on cabfares by walking instead of riding, but i hardly characterize that as "mucho dinero" and if you try that too often after dark it could wind up costing you a lot more than a buck. there are many gringos that stay in that area that would advice taking a cab after dark even for that one block. besides, you'd have to take at least 15 cab rides a day to offset those chica fees and there are other hotels that are just as "optimally located" that don't charge any chica fee at all or at least charge much less.
i just can't regard any hotel that charges that much extra for chica guests to be monger friendly. of course, the doorman are friendly to the sexy chicas, not only are they great eye candy but they aren't costing them anything and they represent a nice profit for the hotel (at your expense).
this was evidently your first trip and you haven't stayed anywhere else, so maybe you don't know. but most places that allow chica guests will check the chicas in very professionally and smoothly. any place in that price range will have nice clean rooms and friendly service.
the prez directly across the street from the balmoral, i believe still offers the $55 crt for its standard rooms and charges no chica fee. they do limit you to one chica at a time and require that they don't dress like complete ****s, but those limitations are usually no big problem for most mongers and allowing the more scantily clad chicas to wear your chica while you're checking in with them usually satisfies the front desk. the breakfasts there which are also included with the room are famous as are the views of the pedestrian mall from the rail.
the morazon is not quite as nice as either of those two places and does not include breakfast, but is even closer to the bm then either of those other 2 hotels and within a fairly safe and direct walk. their rates are only $35/nt and $3/chica, so even if you only bring back 1 chica per day they'd save you nearly half as much as what you'd pay at the balmoral and if you monger more than that they'd save you even more. that's like getting a free mp session every day.
and if you're going to need to take a cab at night anyway, as you very well might even at the balmoral, you might just as well go just a few blocks further (ie still well within a safe and easy daytime walking distance of the bm) that will put you in a much safer and quieter neighborhood and much closer to some of the better mp's. that will open your options up to a whole other group of hotels with reasonable rates, great rooms and service and no chica fees.
of course, you're free to hold a different opinion and ymmv, but personally i have a very different take on the matter than what you just posted.
Hey buddy,
Contact me here or by Private Message. stevewxly
Steve
Guys, Please see Alexaś photo in the Photo Gallery section......contact me via PM for more info and her phone number.
Steve
David Lasker
10-26-07, 04:49
Thanks for the intel on the Balmoral, I am glad to have dicovered someone like yourself that I can get info from.
Although my report on the Balmoral was positive, it may have been quite biased since it was my first trip to CR. I had such a great experience that I guess I just equated my great trip with the Balmoral. I still think the Balmoral is ok for first timers.
What would be a cheap hotel with similar local as the Balmoral, but with no chica fees and included breakfast. How is the Hemmingway?
Also, please expand upon the crime near the Balmoral that I seemed to have missed. Perhaps your info will help me, and others, to be more aware during visits to the area. The only problem I had when walking from Del Rey to Balmoral was the kids asking for coin and sleeping in front of the door to the ATM. No big deal. I was walking back and forth between Balmoral and Del Rey at like 3 am with ticas on several occasions.
My July Trip report
Day 0 & 1
After some research on this forum and advice from my BA I decided that the only place to stay was SL. I arrived in Sanjose on a rainy Sunday afternoon by an US airways flight. Took a cab to SL and settled in. I had my dinner and headed out to DR and to be honest I was a nervous wreck. I met Jim at the roulette table and he kind of explained how things work and even picked out a girl for me, negotiated the rate $80 for 2 hrs and sent me on my way. Her name was Angela she was a 9 on my book. I don’t know a word of Spanish and communicating was bit difficult but once we got to the room it wasn’t necessary. She had a great attitude started with a BBBJ and did multiple positions except for anal. I really liked her and offered her $200 for the whole night but she refused and had to get back to her baby. I walked her to the cab and that was my night. Next morning I had some emergency work to do so couldn’t leave my room except for breakfast and was tied to my Laptop. At about 3 pomp I was at the bar and I met Stan. I have to say I was very lucky to meet him. After few minutes he and I headed out to ZB. When we got there he pulled a girl aside and said she is the best in here and I have to go with her. I took his advice went to the "massage" room and boy I have no shame in saying that was the best sex in my life. Her name was Pamela and I later learnt that she is like a superstar of ZB. That night I picked out a girl from HDR. She was ok. Sorry I don’t remember the names anymore it’s been three months.
Day 2 & 3
I was slammed with more work couldn’t do much but still found time to hook up with couple of beautiful ladies from SL and did a threesome. Thanks to Stan for introducing them. They had an excellent attitude and I was very satisfied. Visited Bar Idem and a girl I picked out were really bad. $50 down the drain.
Day 4 & 5
Went to ZB in the afternoon and had a great session with Andrea. Just hung out at HDR played some chips and took a tica home. The following day left Sanjose in the AM and reached home after 30 hr flights.
All in all this was an excellent adventure for me and I am going to Thailand next month and will be back in CR Dec/Jan. SL, HDR, ZB and Bar Idem pretty much did it for me. SL Brotherhood helped me out a lot and I don’t think I would have enjoyed the trip as much if I had not stayed at SL.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
I had such a great experience that I guess I just equated my great trip with the Balmoral.No problem Dave. I think that is a very common phenomenon. Its difficult not to have a wonderful time the first time you go to CR and that "glow" very often seems to rub off on just about everything you wind up doing. Anyway, I'm sure you did have an excellent stay at the Balmoral and that other first timers would be happy there as well. I just think that one can do even better.
Now as for "a cheap hotel with similar local as the Balmoral, but with no chica fees and included breakfast", the closest thing I can think of would be the Presidente right across the street. Other than that, there are few if any chica friendly hotels in that general area that include as good of a breakfast as the Prez. I personally like the Castillo which is right next door to the Hemmingway, but the breakfast they serve, while adequate is not one of their strong points, but they have nice reasonably priced rooms, great service, no chica fee and a great location. I usually just grab some of their fresh fruit or, for a lousy 1000c or $2, go out for a tico breakfast somewhere else. The Morazon, which I already mentioned, doesn't include breakfast and charges $3 per chica, but even if you add $2-3 for breakfast and $3 per chica to their $35/nt it comes out waayy less than those other places. And there you really can still just walk from the HDR/BM since it is no farther from the BM than is the KL.
The Hemmingway is certainly another option. I don't know much about it myself, though I know some guys stay there so it must be chica friendly. I've heard the rooms are kinda small and not so great, so for the money I'd probably stay at the Morazon, which also has relatively small and so-so rooms too, but is probably the best monger budget option if you want to stay in the heart of the Gulch.
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As for crime/security, the beggars are mainly a real irritation. Unfortunately they're impossible to completely avoid (even if you take cabs) because they mostly hang out directly in front of the HDR. BTW, never take one of the cabs parked outside the HDR as they'll charge you double the usual rate. Always flag down a passing taxi off the street. Anyway back on the beggars, the real problem with them in my book is that they can serve as distractions while more dangerous characters move in. Similarly walking with a chica in that area late at night can be just as bad if it draws your attention away from what you should be paying attention to. Plus, it eliminates your best defense if trouble ever approaches which is to simply run away (unless you don't mind leaving the chica to fend for herself). Besides, many chicas don't wear the best shoes for negotiating SJ sidewalks (heck, I've been known to stumble on some of the larger cracks and gaps and I don't wear high heels) so taking a cab even a really short distance can be a cheap and chivalrous thing to do. The worst crime seems to occur walking down the hill from the HDR towards Avenida Central. If you hang out on the balcony at the NY Bar, you will have front stage seating to all the muggings. Another risky spot is at the bus stop at the corner, as the muggers have been known to use the crowds to hide in right before they jump out and make their move. Since buses stop running some time by mid-evening, the danger is obviously not limited to late night or to when the streets are more desolate. These guys can be pretty brazen. It might be a little safer walking in the direction of the Morazon and turning left to go to the Balmoral that way, but any of the streets in that immediate area can be pretty dangerous after dark. A highly popular monger named Circus in a well-known incident was actually attacked and robbed by a band of trannies right in front of the Morazon (and of course the bouncers just inside the door in plain view did absolutely nothing while all that was going on).
Heading north towards the hotels in barrio Amon (e.g. Hemmingway, Castillo, SL, etc.) can be dangerous too. Morazon ParK has a particularly bad reputation but is not nearly as bad as it once was. They have police patrols at least in the early evening. BTW, one tip for park safety is that if it is a "kissing park", ie you can see young couples sitting together in the evening on park benches, then it is probably pretty safe to walk through, as is Morazon in the early evening. Later at night it is more dicey but at least is pretty wide open so that you can see and avoid any suspicious looking characters that might be hanging out there. The nearby Park Espana always gives me more pause since it has many more trees and thus places for bad guys to hide. Never walk through there later at night after the couples have all gone home. You also have to watch out about getting too close to the tranny prostitutes that come out after dark all over the areas north of Morazon Park. I give them a wide berth and they've always left me completely alone (except 1 time when one of them flashed his surprisingly rather nice set of fake tits at me:)) but they've been known to swarm guys and pickpocket wallets and watches while their buddies groped the victim to distract him. Personally, I think those types are far easier to avoid than the punks who try to sneak up on you. But the safest way to avoid any of this, especially for a newbie, is to not walk at all in those areas after dark.
DR Monger II
10-26-07, 16:07
There was a recent crime in the past weeks, a woman was killed in Morazon Park at 1am in the morning. Becareful.
I'd have to ask what a woman was doing out in Morazon Park at 1 in the morning anyway. Was she one of the street people that just hang out there all the time? At the very least, she probably was involved in some sort of business that she shouldn't have been.
Walking straight, quickly and determinedly through and keeping a really wide distance from anyone who might be hanging out there, will usually get you through safely even at that hour. However, there is really no good reason to walk through Morazon Park at that hour of night unless you're staying at the Holiday Inn (which has chica fees even higher than the Balmoral). If you're staying at the Amon Plaza, Casa Vino, Dunn Inn, Inca Real, Brittania or even Zona Blue it makes much more sense to take a cab at that hour. If you're staying east of those places at the Hemmingway, Castillo, SL or Amistad, you can easily skirt Morazon Park but you'll have to contend with the Park Espana area, which as I said before can be even more dangerous. Unless you're an extremely alert, street-saavy foolhardy risktaker like myself, you're probably best advised to take a cab late at night to those places too.
And if you're taking home a chica practically anywhere, don't make yourself look like a cheap dickhead, spring the buck for a cab and escort her back or pay for her cab when you're done. You've probably just paid anywhere from $40 to, God forbid, $100 for your session so what is an extra couple of bucks.
Somebody who knew her whereabouts laid for her.
Member #2666
10-26-07, 17:12
I'd have to ask what a woman was doing out in Morazon Park at 1 in the morning anyway. Was she one of the street people that just hang out there all the time? At the very least, she probably was involved in some sort of business that she shouldn't have been. .
I respect the notion that we are all entitled to our opinions but you take the cake with this ignorant statement.
The presumption that those out before or after a certain hour are doing something they shouldn't be doing is foolish at best.
Guys,
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Member #2964
10-26-07, 19:50
There was a recent crime in the past weeks, a woman was killed in Morazon Park at 1am in the morning. Becareful.
Guys get it stright. Six shots were fired at a woman in the parking lot of the Key Largo.
A lot of you know the space; right between the DR and the dance floor of the KL.
Most of the shots connected and the woman fell dead to the pavement with mutable bullet holes in her head.
Was she a bad woman or doing something wrong? Only Prolijo can know for sure.
Im a budget guy usually no more than $50 a pop for *hotel action otherwise $6 - 25 for 30/40 minutes onsite.
Could a guy like me stay busy in san jose for 25 days or would I be climbing the walls after 2 weeks ?
Ive been to jaco beach and I didnt like the vibe. I found CR to be unfriendly compared to peru or ecuador.
I have been putting off a san jose trip due to the negative feed back about too many gringos etc. I prefer not to be around other americans(Im american) when I travel but I dont want to miss out on a good time either.
The information and lists on this forum are great. I wouldnt be lost thats for sure. Thanks too everyone.
Ive mongered in dr,ecuador,argentina,lima,mexico,el salvador
*Im sorry this should have been in the general info thread.
Can anyone respond to this..thanks ?
I respect the notion that we are all entitled to our opinions but you take the cake with this ignorant statement.
The presumption that those out before or after a certain hour are doing something they shouldn't be doing is foolish at best.
Who is really showing their ignorance? The "certain" hour in question is not just any time of day but in the middle of the night in a park that has long been known as a risky area even earlier in the evening (hence the need for a special police patrol). But even the police abandon the park after a certain hour. And this wasn't just "those" out at a certain hour but a single woman. It would be dangerous enough for a guy to pass through that park at that hour, for a single female it is downright crazy.
What possible reason would there be for a single woman to be in the park at that hour? That time of night is long after any stores in the area have shut down and long after buses stop running. Even if they live in an apartment or house somewhere near there, if they have any sense they aren't about to simply go for a stroll in some dark and dangerous local park at that time of night. In the latin culture, "nice girls" don't go out unaccompanied and certainly not to shady areas like Morazon Park or shady bars like those in the immediate area or nearby Gringo Gulch. Even the pro's who work near there at places like the KL, take cabs from the curb out front rather than risk walking home through the park. And if a local girl was out somewhere else with their novios or amigas and had to pass the park on their way home, they'd similarly take a cab to their door. No, the only women you'll see in Morazon Park at that hour will be either homeless streetgirls who are used to hanging out in a crowd of drug dealers and glue sniffers, trannies (if you can call them women) or perhaps some chica and her foolish gringo john, who was too cheap to spring for a cab. No one has any business being in that park at that time of night except possibly to pass through it as rapidly as possible because at that time of night the only business going on there is by the trannies, drug dealers and muggers.
You may call me an ignorant fool "at best" who "takes the cake" and thats alright with me because I've always thought you were an argumentative arrogant asshole anyway who is usually full of shit (what was that saying about opinions being like assholes?). So I really don't much care about anything you have to say. If you think any woman has any good reason to hang out in Morazon Park at 1 in the morning you're an even more ignorant fool than I.
Guys get it stright. Six shots were fired at a woman in the parking lot of the Key Largo.
A lot of you know the space; right between the DR and the dance floor of the KL.
Most of the shots connected and the woman fell dead to the pavement with mutable (sic multiple?) bullet holes in her head.
Was she a bad woman or doing something wrong? Only Prolijo can know for sure.I was simply responding to DR Monger II's report with what I thought were perfectly reasonable conclusions based on that report. Excuse me for expressing my take on what was reported about some chica in SJ that you don't even know. At least, unlike you two dickheads, I WASn't casting any negative judgements on a fellow forum member here.
Now, the fact that this happened in the parking lot of the Key Largo makes this a somewhat different story, but the ultimate significance for us isn't all that different. Was the woman in this story "a bad woman or doing something wrong"? Well, she may not have been one of the drugged out street persons that hang out in the dark corners of Morazon Park late at night but its a pretty good guess that she was one of the chicas that work at either the BM or KL. Of course, there is also all sorts of street riff-raff that hang out on that side of KL too. But let's say she was one of the working girls. Does any of that make her "a bad person"? I'm not going to cast any value judgements on chicas based on the simple fact that they make their living turning tricks (nor was I when I was simply stating a person was in a place at a time when they had no good reason for being there). But I'd still have to wonder why this particular chica was hit. Was it the type of robbery/mugging that we're all concerned about and discussing here or was it something else? That seems to be a pretty public space for something like that to go down. Though it may not be unheard of to be robbed in such plain sight, usually the crooks wait until you're further away before they make their move. Also 6 shots "mostly connecting" seems like a pretty extreme and purposeful reaction to someone just resisting a simple robbery. Of course I could be wrong, but this sounds like something a LOT more personal and intentional than just some random robbery. A lot of these chicas have a lot of drama going on their lives. Some are involved in drugs. Some have jealous and/or violent tico novios or esposos. And a few can be pretty violent themselves. This is not the type of violence that is probably going to be directed at any of us. OTOH, I wouldn't want to be anywhere around any of that drama while the bullets are flying. What might have happened to the bullets that missed their mark if one of us happened to be passing by at the same time?
Was this poor girl "bad" for simply being there or possibly resisting a robbery? Absolutely not. But it seems to be a real possibility that she must have been somehow involved with the shooter to be so deliberately targeted and if that was the case it does raise some questions as to how "good" a person she really is herself or at least whether she "was doing something wrong" to get so involved with someone that would do something like that.
2964,
With the type of sarcasm and obnoxiousness that BOTH you and 2666 often display in tandem, I often have to wonder if you "two" aren't really just the same guy. But I guess only 2964 & 2666 "can know for sure". For some reason, based on these and earlier posts, both of you seem to have some real bug up your ass about me. Well, now you know the feeling is mutual, dickwads.
artisttyp,
as much as i'm personally a big fan of cr, imho, i'd have to say that i think you'll probably get tired with sj after so long a stay. of course, others may disagree and i can definitely respect that. in fact, i could very well be wrong. what appeals to each person is a very individual thing, so it is hard to say whether what works for each of us will necessarily work for the next guy. however here is why i think you might be disappointed with sj:
1) this is not your first foreign mongering trip. cr appeals greatly to mongers that haven't been elsewhere. compared to the us for mongering, it is paradise and it is a very easy user-friendly place for someone without a wealth of foreign experience. its might also be great if you've checked out other places but you begin to realize that it is not the only great place.
2) you don't like hanging out with a lot of other gringos and cr probably gets a much higher concentration of gringos than any of those other places you mentioned. the main places to go will be very much like the main places in jaco in terms of the pervacity if gringos. the good news is that there are places to go in sj where you can get off the usual gringo path and enjoy decent p4p right in your price range. but whether that would satisfy you or you'd be climbing the walls after 2 weeks, only you can say.
3) one of the big advantages of cr is that it is so close to the us. this makes it cheap enough and quick enough to get to that it becomes practical to visit for just a short trip of even a long weekend. that advantage becomes less important when you amortize your airtime and airfare over the course of a 25 day vacation. with that amount of time to play with you could travel just about anywhere, including places like the far east or eastern europe or south america and with the local costs in many of those places being so much cheaper than cr it could very easily wind up costing you much less even with the higher cost of airfare.
4) personally, i like doing non-monger things as well. you and others may be different but doing nothing but mongering for 25 days straight would have me climbing the walls. one of the nice things about cr is that there are many other interesting things to see and do besides just mongering, including many that can be done right out of sj. imho, one could fill 25 days in cr fairly easily but if you tie yourself down to just sj then you'd be scraping the bottom of the barrel well before 2 week were up.
anyway, that is my take.
artisttyp,
as much as i'm personally a big fan of cr, imho, i'd have to say that i think you'll probably get tired with sj after so long a stay. of course, others may disagree and i can definitely respect that. in fact, i could very well be wrong. what appeals to each person is a very individual thing, so it is hard to say whether what works for each of us will necessarily work for the next guy. however here is why i think you might be disappointed with sj:
1) this is not your first foreign mongering trip. cr appeals greatly to mongers that haven't been elsewhere. compared to the us for mongering, it is paradise and it is a very easy user-friendly place for someone without a wealth of foreign experience. its might also be great if you've checked out other places but you begin to realize that it is not the only great place.
2) you don't like hanging out with a lot of other gringos and cr probably gets a much higher concentration of gringos than any of those other places you mentioned. the main places to go will be very much like the main places in jaco in terms of the pervacity if gringos. the good news is that there are places to go in sj where you can get off the usual gringo path and enjoy decent p4p right in your price range. but whether that would satisfy you or you'd be climbing the walls after 2 weeks, only you can say.
3) one of the big advantages of cr is that it is so close to the us. this makes it cheap enough and quick enough to get to that it becomes practical to visit for just a short trip of even a long weekend. that advantage becomes less important when you amortize your airtime and airfare over the course of a 25 day vacation. with that amount of time to play with you could travel just about anywhere, including places like the far east or eastern europe or south america and with the local costs in many of those places being so much cheaper than cr it could very easily wind up costing you much less even with the higher cost of airfare.
4) personally, i like doing non-monger things as well. you and others may be different but doing nothing but mongering for 25 days straight would have me climbing the walls. one of the nice things about cr is that there are many other interesting things to see and do besides just mongering, including many that can be done right out of sj. imho, one could fill 25 days in cr fairly easily but if you tie yourself down to just sj then you'd be scraping the bottom of the barrel well before 2 week were up.
anyway, that is my take.
thank you for taking the time to respond. i usually wouldnt consider someplace like costa rica but after looking over the lists and posts for calle 6 action etc. it got my attention.
how much are those outdoor activities from san jose ? i like to do things like that but usually they cost $70 and up and my daily expenses skyrocket.
i enjoyed my time in sosua this summer although i agree its going to the dogs.
i guess i need to put forth the effort into an el salvador expedition.
thanks again for your response.
artisttyp
You're right that most of those organized daily activities cost on the order of $70 or more. It is possible to do SOME of them on the cheap, but it takes a lot more effort and time. For example, instead of going in a tourist shuttle van you can take the public bus to visit the nearby volcanos but because of connections, stops and schedules it will probably take up most of the day just to see each site, whereas you could easily combine 2-3 places in the same amount of time with one organized tour. Other things like whitewater rafting or zip-lines you can do by going to the place yourself as opposed to being picked up at your hotel but you won't save much money. And like I said before, even if you don't mind paying the full cost of organized tours, there are only so many interesting things that you can do as day tours out of SJ. To fill your time with something other than just mongering, you'll probably need to get out of SJ at some point. But, if you also want to get in at least a little mongering everyday, with the exception of Jaco, that will probably mean having to bring a chica with you whereever you go.
BTW, I was in El Sal a couple of months ago and loved the place and barely saw any other gringos. However, I don't think you necessarily have to choose between the two. With that much time, what I'd suggest you do if you really want to check out SJ is to visit both. Visit SJ first and stay there as long as you find it worthwhile. Depending on how much time is left over, maybe find a chica that you can take with you to Arenal and the hot springs and/or maybe check out Playa Flamingo or one of the other Guanacaste beaches next (giving the chica busfare back to SJ at some point), catch a local bus for the border and maybe check out San Juan del Sur on the way to Managua, a side trip to Granada, and a final long bus ride to San Salvador (skip Tegoose if you're interested in mongering). Or you could just take the direct bus from SJ to Managua and then on to San Sal. If you don't spend too much time in SJ, you could even extend your trip to wind up in Guatemala.
I managed a similar month-long trip over this past summer for just $50/day (including hotels, meals, buses and daily activities but not chica costs or airfare)
End the speculation, do some research.
She was hit by four shots on the street NEXT to Morazan Park out front of Key Largo. This was a vendetta from a prior altercation.
La nacion
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Received 4 shots
Murderer asked by women and shot him
Otto M. Vargas | Ovargas@nacion.com
A woman of 25 years died yesterday morning in the park Morazan (San Jose) to receive four shots of a subject who came to look at a well-known nightclub in the area.
Although Jovana Maria Martinez Maldonado denied his identity, the murderer shot him at point-blank range.
The victim, who was born in Nicaragua and mother of a 2-year-old child, had wounds to his abdomen, back and chin. The murdered in a sidewalk.
The crime occurred last 1 AM. The murderer, described as a young person of small stature and who wore a hat and dark colored shirt, came to the site in a black car, according to witnesses told police.
The authorities estimate that the murderer and the person who was driving Martinez waited to leave the local shoot.
The sought. According to the Criminal Investigation Authority (OIJ), the homicidal asked specifically by "Jovana."
Almost immediately fired. Martinez died at the site. The subject was not the belongings of the young. Officers from the Metropolitan Police conducted a search but did not give the attacker.
Jovana Martinez lived in a time Vazquez de Coronado, but, apparently, a few months ago he moved to Los tables Goicoechea.
His son was born in Costa Rica on August 8, 2005.
http://www.diarioextra.com/2007/octubre/22/images/suc01kos.jpg
Alexa ...... Cell phone number: 346-01-85 ...... see web page below from my other report.
Pura Vida Steve
Member #2964
10-27-07, 15:28
Nortolx. Thanks for the correction.After speaking with my amigo his information was off by a 100 - 150 feet.
If you draw aline between the front door of the new Irish Res. and the unused front door of the KL Res. you have the app. location.
Shit happens. here in the US or in CR.
DRMonger initial report though spotty on details apparently was essentially correct. This latest report certainly adds more details. Though the translation is very hard to follow at points, apparently it didn't happen at all in the KL parking lot nor exactly in the park itself, but rather on the sidewalk out in front of the KL on the Park Morazon side. Evidently, 2964, who so smugly told us guys to "get it stright", should have gotten it more strAight himself before he cast any stones, since he was way off with his own facts.
BTW, it wasn't on a line going towards the Irish Rose or 100-150 feet from the HDR parking lot. It was practically right on the corner directly in front of the original front entrance to the KL diametrically opposite to where 2964 said it happened. And that makes a world of difference being on totally opposite sides of the KL and DelMar, one being towards a darkened park and exit that we'd rarely if ever use and the other being a relatively well lit highly public, highly trafficked path that most of us take to get between there and the BM.
As for my own initial "speculation", it seems it wasn't so far off the mark. The victim apparently was not a KL working girl, as was suggested later, but rather a regular street denizen. First of all, judging by the photo, she didn't have on typical working girl attire. Also, she went by the nickname "Macha", which is the feminine version of macho, so I'm guessing she was probably one tough and street-hardened chica. And finally, the article stated "se apostaba todas las noches en las afueras del Bar Key Largo en las inmediaciones del Parque Morazán". She spent every night gambling outside the Key Largo in Morazon Park. If that is not being involved in "some sort of business that she shouldn't have been", I don't know what is. One shouldn't hang out outside in that area at that time of night and one certainly shouldn't mix with the people that do. Apparently her novio Luis "Red" Garcia 19 was assasinated a month and a half ago for having killed a Colombian in fight last April. The Colombians, being as thorough as they are, were just doing some mop-up work.
My later speculation was based in part on the erroneous information provided by 2964, but most of it appears equally valid.
Also 6 shots "mostly connecting" seems like a pretty extreme and purposeful reaction to someone just resisting a simple robbery. Of course I could be wrong, but this sounds like something a LOT more personal and intentional than just some random robbery. A lot of these chicas have a lot of drama going on their lives. Some are involved in drugs. Some have jealous and/or violent tico novios or esposos. And a few can be pretty violent themselves. This is not the type of violence that is probably going to be directed at any of us.Whether the victim turned out to be a KL working chica or a street character, the sort of violence that occurred here is NOT the type of violence that applies to most of us. Our only real concern if something like this goes down is if we're anywhere near it and if there are any stray bullets.
And throughout that has been exactly my point. This whole thing arose out of our discussion of how safe is it for us to walk around that area at that hour. Our real concern should be the random muggings not targeted violence related to events that we don't typically involve ourselves in. And so this event while interesting and alarming doesn't really have any direct relevance to most of us. It doesn't mean that we risk being similarly targeted and killed. What it does say is what sort of people are out in that area at that time of night and why we should give them as wide a berth as possible.
Davidb3069
10-27-07, 17:39
As for my own initial "speculation", it seems it wasn't so far off the mark. The victim apparently was not a KL working girl, as was suggested later, but rather a regular street denizen. First of all, judging by the photo, she didn't have on typical working girl attire. Also, she went by the nickname "Macha", which is the feminine version of macho, so I'm guessing she was probably one tough and street-hardened chica. And finally, the article stated "se apostaba todas las noches en las afueras del Bar Key Largo en las inmediaciones del Parque Morazán". She spent every night gambling outside the Key Largo in Morazon Park. If that is not being involved in "some sort of business that she shouldn't have been", I don't know what is. One shouldn't hang out outside in that area at that time of night and one certainly shouldn't mix with the people that do.
As said, if you go anywhere near Morazon park at night (other than Key Largo) you're asking for trouble. The front entrance (by the park) always made me uneasy. I liked to enter through the back way (the parking lot of Del Rey) when I was there. Not sure if they still have that entrance today though as I haven't been there in 5+ years.
David
DR Monger II
10-27-07, 17:53
Sorry, I should have provided more info. I don't read spanish. This murder was posted on CRT. On CRT, there was a big debate about security in SJ. During my visits there I haven't been mugged with a knife or gun. However, the advice I've been given is not to fight back with any mugger in SJ, because they will kill you.
Did they have even have the back entrance 5 years ago? I'm like you. I remember going out that front way many times when I first went to the KL and it always gave me a little case of the creeps. I'd either hover just inside the gate (ready to retreat back inside) until I saw a cab pass by that I could flag down or I'd make a very quick turn to the left and hightail it over towards the Morazon Hotel. And that was back in the day before things were even as bad as they are now. Of course, in some ways things have gotten a little bit better. They didn't have police patrols in the park in the evening back then and there seemed to be even more questionable characters hanging out on that corner of the park that 2964 was talking about between the Irish Rose/Morazon Cafe (or whatever it was back then) and the KL (in front of the then vacant building that is now the Del Mar Restaurant). But in most other ways I think things have gotten much worse. That front entrance is definitely still there and open but, unless they really do start shooting people in the parking lot, it makes a helluva lot more sense to play it safe and use the back entrance on the HDR side.
Davidb3069
10-27-07, 19:19
Did they have even have the back entrance 5 years ago? I'm like you. I remember going out that front way many times when I first went to the KL and it always gave me a little case of the creeps. I'd either hover just inside the gate (ready to retreat back inside) until I saw a cab pass by that I could flag down or I'd make a very quick turn to the left and hightail it over towards the Morazon Hotel. And that was back in the day before things were even as bad as they are now. Of course, in some ways things have gotten a little bit better. They didn't have police patrols in the park in the evening back then and there seemed to be even more questionable characters hanging out on that corner of the park that 2964 was talking about between the Irish Rose/Morazon Cafe (or whatever it was back then) and the KL (in front of the then vacant building that is now the Del Mar Restaurant). But in most other ways I think things have gotten much worse. That front entrance is definitely still there and open but, unless they really do start shooting people in the parking lot, it makes a helluva lot more sense to play it safe and use the back entrance on the HDR side.
Yes. It was around 2002 they put it in. That's roughly when it reopened again if I recall correctly. That site has always been difficult for Del Rey to do much with because it's protected as a historic landmark. You had to enter on the far side of the parking lot opposite Del Rey's restaurant. They were still constructing it back then but you could go in that way. They had a security guy at that door all the time. The inside at that entrance was a mess too. I'm sure it's all spiffy by now.
I rarely went in/out the front way. I can only think of maybe 2-3 times. I was living there at the time for more than a year. I jumped around from staying at Del Rey/Morazon/3 different apartments in SJ, etc. If I wasn't lucky, I ended up with a room opposite KL. Boy was that noisy at night.
David
Davidb3069
10-27-07, 19:28
Sorry, I should have provided more info. I don't read spanish. This murder was posted on CRT. On CRT, there was a big debate about security in SJ. During my visits there I haven't been mugged with a knife or gun. However, the advice I've been given is not to fight back with any mugger in SJ, because they will kill you.
I believe someone else said it...but gringos/tourists usually aren't the target of muggers in the street. Usually the hookers are more likely to get hit than you -- they are weaker and are likely to have cash late at night if returning from a job. Tourists bring down too much heat. And most are smart enough not to carry much cash. The only reason a tourist might be more attractive is because they probably won't be around long enough to cause any legel problems if someone is caught.
David
Kid Brooklyn
10-27-07, 20:51
Alexa ...... Cell phone number: 346-01-85 ...... see web page below from my other report.
Pura Vida Steve
Steve,
You may suggest that your "friend" lower her expectations a little. She is cute but nowhere near some of the hot chicas found at DR/BM at those prices. I suggest $75/hr. By mentioning protection, I assume it's gonna be cbj, not bbbj. That's another negative for her. Don't worry, I'm sure she'll find some unknowing newbies (reading the ad from the US) who will gladly cough up that kind of dough for a slightly above-average chica. Good luck.
Why did you write it in Spanish also? Who was that for? Ticos? LOL... No Tico would ever pay anywhere near those prices.
Kid Brooklyn
10-27-07, 21:09
Thank you for taking the time to respond. I usually wouldnt consider someplace like costa rica but after looking over the lists and posts for calle 6 action etc. It got my attention.
How much are those outdoor activities from san jose ? I like to do things like that but usually they cost $70 and up and my daily expenses skyrocket.
I enjoyed my time in sosua this summer although I agree its going to the dogs.
I guess I need to put forth the effort into an el salvador expedition.
Thanks again for your response.
Artisttyp
Art,
I don't think CR would be for you. It is not a "budget" type of place. You mentioned calle 6. HAVE YOU EVER SEEN MOST OF THE GIRLS WORKING CALLE 6? I wouldn't fuck them with your dick. And no good-looking girl (7+) at Del Rey will take less than $70. Those that go for $60... well you can keep those. There are guys who brag about how they NEVER pay more than $60 and they just visit the Tico MP's. Yet most of them would never post a pic of the hotties they tap at these places. And those that do, well, I think most of us will agree they are worth every penny of that $60. LOL
I'm not trying to rain on your parade, but I just want to give you a heads-up as to what the situation is REALLY like there, so you don't waste your time and money. If you have 25 days, I agree with Prolijo, you can go to Thailand or Rio where the flights are longer and more expensive, but the average cost will be lower.
If you don't want to be around gringos, try Guatemala. I doubt there are many there. CR has tons in every establishment, at least the good establishments.
Kid. I just returned from a 8 day stay in san jose. And I never spent more than 50. 00 on any girl! Also. Have you ever been to 6th street? My guess is no, I was there on wed and found at least 5 girls that could leave 6th street and walk in to the delrey and no one would know it! I only share facts. I don't brag, it you want to only spend 50. 00 on a girl from delrey its really easy. Pick your times. Tell the girl. That is all you spend. Don't let her friends hear you tell her "I only pay 50. 00" if you are trying to get girls at 8. 00 pm at the delrey you will have problems. But if you shop like I do. After 12:00 and even some times 3:00 am 50.00 will get more than 60% of the girls at that hour. Maybe even higher. Stay at the morazan also there is a new mp on 6th street. The rooms are nicer and cleaner than zona blue and on both days I went there. Out of the 8 girls. 2 were at least 7's.
Davidb3069
10-28-07, 18:32
Kid. I just returned from a 8 day stay in san jose. And I never spent more than 50. 00 on any girl! Also. Have you ever been to 6th street? My guess is no, I was there on wed and found at least 5 girls that could leave 6th street and walk in to the delrey and no one would know it! I only share facts. I don't brag, it you want to only spend 50. 00 on a girl from delrey its really easy. Pick your times. Tell the girl. That is all you spend. Don't let her friends hear you tell her "I only pay 50. 00" if you are trying to get girls at 8. 00 pm at the delrey you will have problems. But if you shop like I do. After 12:00 and even some times 3:00 am 50.00 will get more than 60% of the girls at that hour. Maybe even higher. Stay at the morazan also there is a new mp on 6th street. The rooms are nicer and cleaner than zona blue and on both days I went there. Out of the 8 girls. 2 were at least 7's.
Last time I was there, $50 would get you nearly 100% of the girls during the day. Night is always more expensive. Why wait til 3am when the girls are tired, desperate and more likely to give you the "hurry up" routine once they get back to the room? Unless that's simply when you like to go out. I've never been a late night guy. Unless it's a vacation then I do more late-nighters. When I live in the countries, I keep pretty normal hours.
David
Dodger Bulldog
10-28-07, 20:17
...if you want to only spend 50. 00 on a girl from delrey its really easy. pick your times. tell the girl. that is all you spend. don't let her friends hear you tell her "i only pay 50. 00" if you are trying to get girls at 8. 00 pm at the delrey you will have problems. but if you shop like i do. after 12:00 and even some times 3:00 am 50.00 will get more than 60% of the girls at that hour. maybe even higher.that is pretty accurate advice.
not always easy, but it can certainly be done.
timing can be everything. the law of supply and demand is in effect, and there is less demand during
the day and after 3 am.
some of the chicas understand this and realize that their time is a perishable commodity. an hour on
a bar stool doesn't pay her bills.
but not many have an innate mind for business.
however, others can be educated if you take the time to work the situation right. many will never learn.
a lot of the hottest ones only work the peak hours, which can create a problem with pricing
issues. in this case it is best to learn what time they usually come to work and ask them to start
a little earlier by stopping by your room on the way to the del rey.
explain how they won't miss any opportunities during the evening, and will be in a good mood when
they arrive knowing that they already have $50 in their pocket before they even start for the night.
some will get it.
chilimike is correct in that it is important that none of the other chicas overhear your negotiations. the chica
you want is much more likely to turn your offer down if she believes that she will lose face with her peers.
always move her off to an isolated spot before the negotiations begin.
also allow her to save face by coming up 5000 colones, one time, over your initial offer, because you
"like her so much" (never negotiate in dollars). she needs to feel like somehow she won.
t-minus three weeks and counting before i return to san jose.
we'll have to see if i can liven up the photo thread a little bit!
db
while i think kid may have overstated his case (well except for that part about not fucking the calle 6 putas with your dick, which was my line), the general thrust of his case was not that far off. cr pricing is increasingly fucked up. and, while it might seem like a real bargain compared to what we're used to in the us, if you've been to other foreign mongering destinations you'd realize how much it is not really any great bargain compared to most of them.
i wouldn't disagree with my pal chilimike but i think david and my other pal tgom db mentioned some important caveats. you can certainly find daytime hdr chicas for $50 but, as db alluded, the pickings are a lot slimmer during the day and most of the really hot ones only come in at night when they can make the "big money". besides, during the day one can just as easily go to an mp like zb or nf or even a tico place like oasis and get them cheaper still. and as david pointed out by 3am nearly all the chicas are worn out and in a real rush to make their money and go home. i'd add to that observation that in large part the really hot ones have already made their money for the night and have gone home (or for a tln), so the quality and selection similarly dips. in other words, not only is there less demand during those non-peak hours but there is also much less supply and generally lower quality. so, off-hour bargains are to be had, lower daytime or late-night prices is not necessarily an indication of better values as much as a case of you get what you pay for.
obviously we all have our different standards and concepts of beauty. cm can say 25% of the calle 6 women are 7+, but i've been there and in my book that would be a real stretch. maybe that might be the case at some of the nearby tico mp's on calle 4 such as 747 and cha-chas, but not at the pensiones. and i wouldn't have any doubt that some of them could walk into the hdr/bm unnoticed because there are many fat ugly pigs (mixed in amongst the lovelies) at the bm that really have no business being there. otoh, for kid to say "no good-looking girl (7+) at del rey will take less than $70" i'd have to say that is an exaggeration in the other direction. it's true that nowadays many of the 9-10's don't go much below $80 if they even slip off that $100 mark, simply because they don't have to and that is fine with me because i think the 7-8's usually provide better service any way. but you can often get 7-8's for under $70 if you know at all how to negotiate (or else catch them during non-peak hours). $60 is not unheard of and $50 is even possible. however i'll agree with kid this much, most of those $50 gals are at best simply average looking and you really have to wonder about the chicas that some guys claim to get at the hdr for under $50. i'm sure some guys negotiate better than me, but i challenge anyone who claims $40 for a hdr chica who they haven't plied with mucho dinero for food and drinks or hefty propinas on past sessions who isn't plain at best. we've all seen some pretty scary pics that some guys incomprehensibly post proudly and i wonder if those ones are even worth that $40-50. when you get down to it, there's no escaping the basic economic rule that you get what you pay for.
lot of other good tips in those posts though about negotiation techniques about being discrete when lowballing a chica so she can agree without losing face amongst her peers and leaving room to come up from your initial offer so the chica can feel she is winning something. also liked the ones about trying to reason with them about sessioning during their non-prime-time to get a lower rate. unfortunately, i think the part about educating them why it is better to take a 1-3 "low" offers, go and get back than to wind up sitting around the bar for several hours holding out for the "big money" which never comes is much easier said than done for 90% of these chicas. some get it. most don't. and business sense is not their greatest skill.
another approach that i sometimes like to take is to respond to their cien offer with something ridiculuously low like $30 or 15k. btw, dollars are fine for the opeing bid but not for when you get down to amounts you think they'll accept (think about it, $30 is really a dollar more than 15k). invariably, they'll just shake their heads and start to walk away and before they do i'll say "i know my offer is estupido but they don't really believe i would pay cien either. why don't you tell me what you really will go for?" they'll either say cien to which i'll say goodbye, see ya later (why waste my time trying to work down a chica who is going to be so unreasonable?) or they'll make another slightly lower counter offer. in that case, i've gotten them to lower their price first and can come back with a more reasonable offer on my side which they might accept (usually 20-25k but maybe as high as 30k depending on how hot they are). if they don't take that then i'd use db's approach of throwing in another 5k to sweeten the pot.
and as long as we are discussing negotiating techniques lets not forget the non-cash issues: making sure they understand it is hora completo and/or mucho veces and not just until you come one shot and out the door, chuparando sin condon, mucho besos con lengua or whatever else floats your boat (such as fotos sin ropa). and if they won't come off the $100 making it for 2-3 hours or more.
finally, lets not forget the best tool for chica "business education" which is going back by that chica that had blown off your $60 offer and you've seen sitting around the bar for the last 2 hours and pointing out to her that she could have been with you and back by now. you could use that as a chance to try and get her to finally come down. but i like to do that as much to rub it in her face if you say it to her before you leave with another chica (of course that sort of works against your chica getting out of there without giving away how cheaply you got her for, but you don't have to actually tell the first chica how much you paid)
Member #2964
10-29-07, 00:02
The common thread is my 6,7,8,9,10 is not yours. That does not make mine any less then your 6,7,8,9 or 10.
Here are a few, they all stated at Cien, but those of you who know me know they did not get any where near that. In fact marcela was 9 mil.
Member #2964
10-29-07, 00:18
Guy’s we have read Prolijos lines about being a genital man and not posting pic’s of any of his woman while holding court on everyone who post pic’s. Well now I know why. Check out this pic I took of Proijo on his way to ZB.
Super Gato
10-29-07, 00:30
The common thread is my 6,7,8,9,10 is not yours. That does not make mine any less then your 6,7,8,9 or 10.
Here are a few, they all stated at Cien, but those of you who know me know they did not get any where near that. In fact marcela was 9 mil.
Even though it took me a few times to read it, I agree completely with 2964. I'm always amused with the arguments that I read here. No matter what country, there's always this never ending argument.
No matter where I monger, I love to people watch. You'll see guys with ugly fat chicks that I wouldn't pay a cent for, but they have a big grin on their face like they are with a total fox. And good for them. And if they got a good deal on her, even better.
The best thing about places like HDR is there's a girl in a shape or look for everyone. One man's 10 is another man's 5. Looks aren't everything. Personality and attitude go a long way too. I have really high standards which is hurting my game. I hold out the "10" rating for the highest standard and haven't seen one in my travels. I've had a lot of 9s. And once a 9.75 at an FKK in Germany. So I'd not even blink if my idea of a 10 at HDR said $100.
Buying a chica's time is like buying a car. Of course they're going to open with the sticker price. And you can negotiate down. But sometimes if the car is in demand and popular, you might have to pay sticker price.
The other common thread in these discussions is that many guys get almost as much thrill out of getting the best bargain as actually getting the poon. In the reports on ISG, I don't get impressed by people's bargaining skills [especially when I see pictures of some of them]. It is the information on where to find the girls and the market prices I'm interested in. And like buying the car, I'll do the research and pay a price I find fare.
Member 2964. You need to review his posts. (maybe back to the "chase star" days). But the guy has posted picks. And some very hot ones. One more note. If you were lucky enough to be in town when he was. I am sure your trip would improve, since he knows many places and people (girls) and members. Plus he is a good guy!
Member #2964
10-29-07, 17:57
Chili. The Prolijo love fest is touching. But comeing from a guy who has been to CR how many times now and always wants the members of ISG & CRT to post picks when he himself has posted none.
I know and I know, you know that different people have differant likes and dis-likes.
Enjoy & learn from them. Life is just too dame short.
Thanks, CM. The feeling is mutual. BTW, we need to get together for a few drinks some time. Sorry, I won't be able to make it this Saturday when GT, LK and the others hookup in Largo.
2964,
You're absolutely right that I don't post many photos here. You're absolutely wrong however that I always want or expect people to post pics. What I have said is if they post pics, I think they should do so responsibly. Of course, they're completely free to do whatever they so wish and and as long as they're willing to post those pics publicly they should also be willing to expect some reaction.
Also, whether I post pics or not doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about. Or that I can't recognize horseshit when I see it. To make up for lost time and in the same spirit as the one in which you just posted your pic, here are some pics just for you. BTW, also in the same spirit as you so often like to remind everyone else, the photo gallery is for posting pics and this section is for commentary. You seem to have forgotten that and gotten that reversed with your last few posts in each section.
Member #2964
10-30-07, 01:03
Pro, great pic's guy. now everyone knows what you go to CR for, what turns you on and how you spend your time.
PS. I'll post pics where ever and when ever.
Who died and made you the web site master?
LOL. Get a life dud.
Pro, great pic's guy. now everyone knows what you go to CR for, what turns you on and how you spend your time.
PS. I'll post pics where ever and when ever.
Who died and made you the web site master?
LOL. Get a life dud.I never said I was the one that took those pics nor was I the one to start posting animal pics, but I'm glad you appreciated them.
Go ahead and post your pics where ever and when ever, but as long as you post them on here they'll be subject to comment. I know you expect guys to only pat you on the back and tell you how cool you are with those pics, but you can't pick and choose.
Of course, no one died and made me the website master, but you seem to think you are. I'm not the one who always complains about others posting commentary on photos in the photo section and then posts commentary of his own there too. I was just giving you a little taste of your own medicine, but evidently that message was too subtle for you. And I'm not the one who started mocking other members posts and saying they take the cake and are ignorant fools. This all started when, OMG, I had the audacity to comment not on other members of this website (like you and your pal 2666) or getting personal about what they were posting but rather speculating on certain events in CR (something entirely appropriate to this site and speculation that, as it happened, turned out to be correct). And then you had to weigh in with your own sarcasm and what turned out to be erroneous information of your own. It seems to me that charges of delusions of grandeur and overly inflated self-importance could be applied quite as easily to both of you.
Anyway, I'm just throwing your cocky and insulting attitude back at you (in spades and as long as you want to play this game). Its tough shit if you don't like it because maybe you should take a look in the mirror and see what you're dishing out yourself. I've got a life, maybe you should get one too, dickhead.
Member #2964
10-30-07, 01:56
pro. you have again proved my point. You are nothing less then a two faced hypocrite.
Changing you tune and story at every turn.
Also committing a major NO-NO posting someones pic's without giving credit to that person.
Play whatever sick game you need to validate yourself, Your the man.
What's changed? The tune remains exactly the same. Maybe its your hearing that is a little off. I thought it was pretty obvious those weren't my own pics. I guess I underestimated your stupidity. Its not like these were pics of chicas I claimed to session with for dos colones. Unlike you're pics, they weren't posted for self-aggrandizement. So who the fuck really cares who took them? They were obviously just meant as a joke. I really have no idea who took those pics. There were just pics I got somewhere off the web. I suppose next you'll be saying that guys that use thumbnails in their avatars or siglines on other forums (downloaded from avatar sites) should include photo credit too. You're clutching at straws, man. Give it up while you're behind. You're pathetic.
Member #2964
10-30-07, 20:53
Pro. Thanks again for proving my point about you to the entire thread.
Why don't you girls grow up and get a life. Your posts do nothing.
Why the hell dont the two of you take your ´pissing contests´somewhere else.
I joined this forum to read and write about my experiences in foreign lands.....not to have ´girly cat fights´like the two of you are engaged in.
Do us all a favor......GROW UP and then take a big [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140)....measure the distance.....and then the guy who can [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) the further.....will be the winner....and then you can give all this BS a break here on this forum.
Steve
Mr Jetsetter
10-31-07, 08:14
Yeah, this spat is indeed somewhat childish and rapidly becoming a bit tiresome. Having said that, I'd like to say that Prolijo's positive contributions to this board far outweigh his occasionally negative and overly sensitive postings/rebuttals, and greatly exceed the contribtutions of people like Member#2964 and, yes, myself.
Although I have been on the receiving end of a Prolijo critique or two (e.g., possibly over-tipping at Zona Blue), I greatly appreciate the time and effort he puts into his posts and consider him one of the few "godfathers" of this board.
Having said that, let's move on!
I hope the moderator does something to stop this nonsense. Prolijo seems to get some kind of sick satisfaction in ruining forums. He and another poster ruined another Costa Rican site years back.
Steve and MrJS are two guys that I definitely respect. IMHO, MrJS overstates my importance to this board (a "godfather"?) and is too modest in his own self-assessment. In this case, I was wrong and they're absolutely correct. I'll readily admit I often get carried away. At some point much earlier in the debate I should have realized some people will either just "get it" or the never will. At that point I should have just spared the rest of you. Instead of lowering myself to his level and throwing back barbs, I should have just let go what I still consider ridiculuous and offensive posting. As Kid Brooklyn pointed out in the other section, some guys just like to post bullshit in an effort to make themselves look "cooler" or something. And I should have trusted the rest of you to be able to smell the crap when you encounter it.
BTW, I don't exactly recall my past debate with MrJS over ZB tipping but I can imagine. The fact that we both walked away from it with absolutely no ill will towards the other party proves that it is still completely possible to respectfully disagree with other members without being disagreeable.
Anyway, I apologize to the rest of you for my part in taking this thread off topic. Now let's get back to discussing the CR mongering issues that we really come here for.
Chicago Bob123
10-31-07, 22:40
I got to visit Costa Rica for the fifth time a few weeks ago.. I’ve been getting info here for quite some time and want to thank you all for the valuable infor. My latest trip started with a short stay in Jaco. There isn’t much going on here except for the Beatle bar and a stripper club called Delfunio. We visited Beatle Bar a couple of time but didn’t really see any chicks worth the effort. Most ladies here were 5or 6's and many were older. The stripper club was better. A few good looking girls and they have booths where they do more than just lap dances if you get my meaning. But the prices were high. It was $66 for half hour for the room - only the room. Then the girls wanted $100. I decided to just say "NO" . But I did make a date with one of the girls for the following day. She had great boobs. Her performance was good and not mechanical. She was a perect for the start of the vacation.
In San Jose, we stayed at the HDR. I don't have to tell you guys about this place. All in all a wonderful time was had. I am never disapointed here. And you can gamble.
Pure heaven
Prolijo
Thank you for 'seeing the light'.
As other members concure ,as well as I, your good reports and vast knowledge about CR far outweigh any other small matter ... like your occasional disagreements or spats online with other members.
In my opinion, you are still a valued asset to this forum. And I have learned many things from you about CR in the past, by reading and heeding your insight and usually good advice.
Pura Vida Steve
Hola Guys,
I am fortuneate enough to be in San Jose once again, and this time I am housesitting a very nice, large home in the Plaza del Sol area....about 4 to 5 miles East of SJ.
The home is American owned by absentee ownwers.
It has 6 bedrooms, 7 baths, commcerial kitchen,bar, swimming pool,....and is furnished, and well located.
The home is 'for sale' for $ 300,000.00 USD. We are doing some work on it, and should be finished shortly.
I have personally met, interviewed, and have phone numbers of about 30+ chicas from town who have said they want to come out to the house for a house.warming party.
Now I need about 7 or 8 amigos, who also want to eat, drink, and make merry with my new amigas.
Are there any volunteers?
Please PM me for more details........ Steve
Hey Guys,
Isn"t anyone reading the posts here on the CR daily info page......maybe I need to take out a large advertisement in the New York Times.
I guess I will have all 20 or so chicas that Ive lined up to party with........all to myself.
Steve
Professor 1
11-02-07, 02:36
Hey Guys,
Isn"t anyone reading the posts here on the CR daily info page......maybe I need to take out a large advertisement in the New York Times.
I guess I will have all 20 or so chicas that Ive lined up to party with........all to myself.
SteveSorry, Steve, but I changed my timeshare for the DR this time. Otherwise, I would join you for this event. Have fun.
I would be glad to help you out. Give me a call [Telephone Number deleted by Admin]
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Davidb3069
11-02-07, 22:58
I have personally met, interviewed, and have phone numbers of about 30+ chicas from town who have said they want to come out to the house for a house.warming party.
Now I need about 7 or 8 amigos, who also want to eat, drink, and make merry with my new amigas.
Are there any volunteers?
Please PM me for more details........ Steve
There was a guy that did this a few years back in SJ. He got about 10-15 guys to pay $75-100 each. He lined up a buncha girls. He had a swimming pool, etc. Rule was: girls in the pool had to be at least topless. Everyone was guaranteed at least 1 girl session while at the party.
David
Hi Steve,
How long will you be house sitting for?
Is this a re-occurring job or a one time deal.
Hey David,
That sounds nice, but they have a word for that here, It is called pimping.....and brother if you get caught doing that, they put you in the presidente suite at the grey bar hotel....then they throw away the key.
I had not planned on making any money on this deal....but will perhaps ask for a small donation to help defray the cost of food, drinks, sheets, and towels for the rooms. But I would be happy with 5 or 10 bucks for that.
Keep in touch........the party will be when we get the work finished or nearly so....got the pool filled now with water, but we are having some trouble with the pump.....but hopefully we will get it going tomorrow.
Pura Vida Steve
Davidb3069
11-03-07, 04:47
Hey David,
That sounds nice, but they have a word for that here, It is called pimping.....and brother if you get caught doing that, they put you in the presidente suite at the grey bar hotel....then they throw away the key.
I had not planned on making any money on this deal....but will perhaps ask for a small donation to help defray the cost of food, drinks, sheets, and towels for the rooms. But I would be happy with 5 or 10 bucks for that.
Keep in touch........the party will be when we get the work finished or nearly so....got the pool filled now with water, but we are having some trouble with the pump.....but hopefully we will get it going tomorrow.
Pura Vida Steve
Hate to break the news to you... the local police could care less. I couldn't even get them to intervene with a street thug that ripped me off one time. They could care less about crime unless it smacks them in the face and directly involves them.
The only exception are girls that are there without proper paperwork (or that overstay their visa). I was at Del Rey once when they raided the place looking for illegals. They blocked all the doors, checked all passports/ids and then finally released the place.
And they aren't that bright either....
There was another time when US law enforcement got a tip that there was a top 10 most wanted in the Monkey Bar. The FBI/SJ police raided the place, took the guy away and locked him up for 3 days. He was offered no food. He had to get delivery food in every day. He ate pretty well apparently. How long do you think it takes to figure out he wasn't the right guy? Myself, other gringos as well as Del Rey staff checked the top 10 list within minutes and could tell he wasn't on the list.
Don't make the mistake of insulting them though....
They WILL take it personaly and haul your a** down to the jail for an interview.
I lived there over a year. I can tell you this from experience. CR police are useless. Actually, police in most of those countries are useless. Corruption is an understatement.
I am not in CR and won't return there. Mongering is a whole lot better in other places.
P.S. Make sure you make it VERY clear to the girls they aren't getting paid to show up. They will expect it for sure. Even if you tell them, they may still ask for something by the time the night is over. The only thing they understand is $$. Anything else is a freebie. They don't take into consideration things such as meals, drinks, or gifts when it comes compensation.
David
So we get there on the 16th.
Wen is the party?
Panda
Hey David,
That sounds nice, but they have a word for that here, It is called pimping.....and brother if you get caught doing that, they put you in the presidente suite at the grey bar hotel....then they throw away the key.
I had not planned on making any money on this deal....but will perhaps ask for a small donation to help defray the cost of food, drinks, sheets, and towels for the rooms. But I would be happy with 5 or 10 bucks for that.
Keep in touch........the party will be when we get the work finished or nearly so....got the pool filled now with water, but we are having some trouble with the pump.....but hopefully we will get it going tomorrow.
Pura Vida Steve
I will be housesitting until the house sells....or until I get real tired of being here , and want to return to the USA .
Steve
QUOTE=ToroRojo]Hi Steve,
How long will you be house sitting for?
Is this a re-occurring job or a one time deal.[/QUOTE]
The party is still 'on' for house that Iam housesitting near Plaza del Sol......East of San Jose.
The local ticos....workers.... have encountered some problemias with the swimming pool....but when those are resolved, we will schedule the 'fiesta'...complete with all the chicas that I can round up......
Please stay tuned.......it should be a 'real fun time for all'
Pura Vida Steve
Hola Guys,
Looks like the fiesta....house warming party at my house will probably be this coming Sunday.....Nov. 11th.....
We are getting the work done, and should have most everything up and running by Sunday.
I have the phone numbers of about 30 chicas....plus will make a run at 3 to 4 of the local MP´s in the next day or so to invite some of the gals from those too.
Most of the MP´s are closed on Sunday, so the gals who work there have some time off to themselves.....and I know they all like to party and try to make some extra $$$$$.
Plus with 6 bedrooms and 7 private baths at the house......I plan to have the bedrooms available for use for private sessions.
I am working out a plan of the fees......
I really hate to have to charge anything at all......but I am going to out for the food, drinks, and washing of the sheets, towels, plus I would also like to hire a professional doorman....like the hotels downtown have....and also a cooks helper or maid for the day.
I hear from Batboy.....that Jackson has done this similar thing with private parties in Buenes Aires....several times. It is reported that Jackson charges a flat fee of $ 17.00 to $ 20.00 at the door to get in.....and then the sessions with any of the chicas....goes for what you can work out with each girl.
((( I don´t plan to charge anything for the use of the bedrooms per session....except to recoup my fees for the washing of the sheets and towels.)))
There is a large professional bar and professional kitchen in the house.....along with the pool, patio, two dining rooms, etc......and I am a professional chef....of sorts.....former restaurant manager....at one time for the largest (seating for 300 people) ....restaurant in the state of Oklahoma.....in the early ´70´s.
So guys.....the party will be by personal invitation only......you will need to contact me...to get an invitation.....but it should prove to be a good time.....and something a little different than just hanging out at the Del Rey Hotel everynight.....which is where I´ve been almost every night for the last three weeks.
If you frequent the Del Rey....you will surely recognize me....from being there....when you see me.
Please send me a private message if you want a invitation to the party.
I belive the house and grounds can perhaps accomadate around 35-40 or more people.....no problem.
The house is in one of the best neighborhoods in San Jose, and is near Plaza del Sol shopping center....which is approx. 5 miles East of downtown San Jose. It is a 35 cent bus ride from the Del Rey....or about $ 3.50 by taxi.....one way.
Some of the buses.....which will say ¨P. del Sol¨ stop right in front of the Del Rey Hotel....then to 2nd avenida, then out to the house.
Message me........ or call me on my cell phone : 876-2715
Pura Vida Steve
Davidb3069
11-07-07, 18:53
Looks like the fiesta....house warming party at my house will probably be this coming Sunday.....Nov. 11th.....
You might ask some of the security at Del Rey if you know any of them. They'd probably be willing to do it. Del Rey doesn't pay them squat and they are on their feet all day. They have the advantage of knowing some of their girls already, too.
David
Buena suerte! with the party. Hope it comes off well.
Unfortunately, I won't be in SJO when you have it. I'm coming in late January for several days, so if you plan another soiree, post some info or PM me please. Sounds like a fun alternative to hanging out at the DR or going to the Zona Blue.
Hey David,
I will speak to a couple of the doormen at the DL, and see if they would be interested in a little part-time work.
Thanks for the positive input: Steve
Hey Guys,
Here is the info for my house party which is scheduled for this Sunday at 1-2PM until ????
My local cell number is: 876-2715 ...call me if you need to....and here are the directions.
If you are planning on coming out.....I would like a call first......to know who is coming.......
I will have the chicas coming....if they show up......and we should have a good time.
The swimming pool will be open and ready for use.....so if you want to swim bring a swimming suit and perhaps a towel.
I do have some extra towels....but they are limited.....and am really trying to save them for use in the bedrooms and baths if you choose to session with one of the chicas, while at the party.
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The house is located about 5 to 6 miles East of the Del Rey Hotel...downtown San Jose.
It will cost you about $ 3.50 by taxi out to the house....or you can take a bus for 35 cents.
Taxi directions....tell the driver:
From Plaza del Sol shopping center:
Go 100 meters South (Sur) and 100 meters (Oeste) West of Plaza del Sol.
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Turn on the street between McDonalds and KFC....go one block south....turn right....go one more block West....last house on the right side.....stone retaining wall....three story white house.....dead end street.
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Bus:
Bus should take about 15 minutes from downtown San Jose.....you will be going East (about 2-3 miles) past Mall San Pedro towards Cartago...........
From 2nd Ave. downtown :
Take any bus that is marked: Plaza del Sol...(ask the driver) ...get off the bus, when you see McDonalds and KFC....walk one block South....turn right then one block West....as above.
See you on Sunday.......Steve
PS If you know other guys who might want to come out then just bring them or have them call me:
Steve,
That's really nice, opening up your house for a party everybody.
Wish I was there to join you but will not be in SJ for another month.
Buenas Suerte
NOQ
Steve,
That's really cool; will miss the fiesta but will be in town week after, will drop you a line for the next one.
Professor 1
11-10-07, 23:36
Hey Guys,
Here is the info for my house party which is scheduled for this Sunday at 1-2PM until ????It is very nice of you to open your house to the membership. Had I not chosen to visit DR this year rather than SJO, I would have come. (No pun intended). Your offer was very kind.
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