San Jose General Reports [Archive] - Page 6

Prolijo

05-20-08, 07:13

I've been refraining from adding any comments on this board for the last week or two but, when I have the rare opportunity to agree with my good friend 2964, I just have to take it. He is absolutely right that "There is no need to pay $100.00. In the DR or KL: ALL the girls start asking for $100.00 +/- Just say No. They will come down to $80.00..." (boldface added by me).

I will qualify those comments a little. There ARE a FEW chicas who won't come down at all. As often as not, you can take that as a clue what their attitude will be back in your room and count yourself lucky if you decide to move on to one of the MANY others that WILL negotiate. SOME times those hard and fast chicas MIGHT be worth as much as they THINK they are (more often as "fast" as they are "hard"), but, unless you've got a reliable recommendation from a fellow monger who has checked her out, the odds are definitely not in your favor. These are very minor qualifications. Like 2964 said, most chicas will come down fairly quickly to $80 without much negotiating skill needed at all. With just a little more negotiating skill than that, getting cute ones down to $60 is extremely common. But even if you can't get them to lower their price, it is still very possible to negotiate for extra services for that $100 (more hours, videos, anal or whatever floats your boat and can get her to agree to).

However that is not what I came out to post about. IMHO, there has to be something really messed up with this forum when the Admin recommends a post like Tequila's as a "post of distinction" (and he can then add his own post to that section). Don't get me wrong. I'll grant that Tequila was trying to make what he thought was a helpful contribution to this forum. It was a nice little newbie report but, c'mon, a "post of distinction"? His post was chockful of rooky mistakes, which he apparently didn't even realize he made, and misadvice.

1) The telecom monopoly in CR is not news. If he had done just a little bit of research BEFORE his trip he would have known that and could have found a SIM chip on-line that works in CR (e.g. www.www.celtrek.com @$.37 in CR & $.29 to the US)

2) Staying at a hotel that charged such exorbitant chica fees that it is painfully obvious they don't really want our business except to profiteer from it (and he would have known about it if he had read the forum BEFORE his trip).

3) Chica fees that must have largely if not entirely offset any savings he might have gained from using up his priority points. There are perfectly nice hotels in the area w/o any chica fees which cost less than HI chica fees alone.

4) Late at night, drunk or with gambling winnings may be another story, but maintaining it is unsafe to walk across Morazon Park at 7PM, when 2 cops are stationed there until at least 9-10PM, IS paranoid. Chicas don't want to walk it because a) you're paying for the cab and they like to make us pay for whatever they can get us to pay for (they'll even ask for cabfare to get home at the end of the session and then walk back to the HDR) or b) simply lazy or c) they're wearing high heels which are tough on crooked SJ sidewalks (a legitimate gripe that only applies to you if you're escorting one in heels). A guy walking alone or with other guys can easily watch out for any suspicious characters before leaving the front entrance of the KEY Largo and quickly walk safely across the park in less than a minute (not even 3 or 4).

5) Paying $2 for what should have been less than a $1 cabfare (in SJ it is 405 colones for the 1st km and that ride is less half a km). He probably didn't read the warnings in this forum NOT to use the taxis that PARK in front of the HDR and charge double the regular fares. It is ridiculously easy to flag a relatively honest one down off the street as it passes that busy corner.

6) Telling guys that bargaining is not an option just because he did not know how to do it (or possibly even try). (see my remarks above)

7) Thinking that CBJ's are the norm, but never thinking to ask for a BBBJ as part of his bargaining. Many if not most chicas will provide BBBJ's without your even having to ask. Certainly most will do it if you insist on it as part of the package before you leave the bar. But even nearly all the minority that don't readily agree to it, will always agree to it for the promise of a little bit more money. (negotiate it into the regular rate ahead of time to avoid the upsell when your little head is at its largest)

8) Only visiting or reporting on the 3 most heavily visited P4P venues in SJ, all of which have all ready been reported on EXTENSIVELY (no correct new news in his report) and then not even knowing the correct name on one of them.

9) Buying the cheap fake cuban cigars off the street (or from a guy who came in off the street) and paying $100 for them. Real Cohibas may cost $5 a pop when you buy them individually, but $3.33 each when buying in bulk is no great discount and I seriously doubt those cigars were real Cohibas.

Like J Europe said, I'm glad he enjoyed his trip, but I think he really has a LOT more to learn than what he indicated in his report and that report should NOT be held out as any model.

Xion149

05-20-08, 08:47

Hogwash. I've walked around San Jose at all hours of the day and night and never had a problem. And as for "unsatisfying" $100 experiences, can I suggest that maybe it's your own fault in some cases. I for one have had some great $100 experiences in SJO, and many for less than that as well.

Costa Rica is a great place to kick back and have fun. And it's a great mongering spot too. As for getting ripped off, remember the immortal words of W.C. Fields. "You can't cheat an honest man."

As have I. In fact I just got back. I walked twice, to and from Pantera rosa, at about 3am each time. It's not a problem for me, yet it obviously is for some people, since they posted about it. Neither did I buy into the Villalobos scam, but many people (possibly/probably reading this now) did. And if you think its the guy's fault when a chick who agrees to stay for an hour then tries to leave after 30 minutes (I'm the only one this has happened to right? right.) then well, the Colombianas must just LOVE you, they couldn't ask for an easier mark. So, Mr.-7-posts-to-your-name, by all means continue to call me BS. You're over there getting all defensive and shit- I'm trying to tell it like it is. I don't hate the place, in fact I go there when I need to burn excess vacation days or fly for cheap. Which brings me to my trip report below. I just stepped off the plane, when's the last time you were there? And I'm the one that's BS?

SJO 5/16-5/19

I guess it wouldn't be fair to bash the place without an accurate report, so here ya go.

Spent the last 3 days in SJO trying to burn off some excess vacation time (use it or lose it) IMHO this place doesn't have enough to keep one entertained for a whole week, but for a short stay, it can be pretty fun, and is a cheap/short flight from most US hubs.

Accomodations:

My last CR trip was for a week, but being I was on short time, I splurged a little this time around. Day one I stayed at the suites in Zona Blue. I gotta say, these rooms are pretty pimp (will post photos later) I particularly liked the huge bathroom with combined shower/sauna. You can fit like 10 bitches in that motherfucker, the chicas love it. It has a bench in the shower too, I think more action went on in there then in the bed itself. Getting blown by Kristina with Pam dousing me in hot water- only thing crossing my mind was "now this is what the fuck I was looking for!" Price was $200/night, which also allows you to session with the girls for only $20/hour. So if you wanna grab like 3 or 4, this is the place to do that. For day two and three, I stayed at the Del Rey. Despite being to CR several times before I'd never actually stayed there so I said what the fuck, I'll be part of the herd this time around. I must say, the convenience it offers is nice. Chicks, gambling, drinks and food all under one roof, everyone speaks english. If you are new to travel in Lat-Am destinations, this is the place for you. The room was very clean (smelled like it had been sandblasted with high power disinfectant; considering the clientel, this actually upped my comfort level) I would recommend booking ahead- the rate I was given over the phone ($90/night deluxe room) was drastically different from the rate displayed behind the counter when I arrived ($90/standard, $120/deluxe!!) Major downside was some goofiness with the room phone- I think the ringer was broken. I missed one room service and at least two calls from chicas.

Food:

The food in CR fucking sucks, with little exception. Expect dishes as simple as rice and beans to be fucked up or oddly flavored in some way. I pretty much fasted for the last two days- trying to find a restaurant that didn't turn my stomach was just eating into my whoring time.

Travel:

Everything is in walking distance, and is generally safe, even late at night. I walked to and from Pantera Rosa, Fri and Sat nights after 3am with no issues (I am wary about the cabs outside any club- I dont use em). The key is to not look like a fucking mark. If you are wearing a hawaiian shirt, plaid shorts and flip-flops with socks- this means you. If you want to take cabs, they are a good way to get rid of the pounds of gigantic coinage you'll find yourself carrying. Price starts @ 400 colones, 2000 will take you pretty much anywhere.

Drugs:

Are easily obtainable. Ask the girls, the white is VERY popular, not so much the green. Do NOT ask cab drivers. In fact I stayed out of cabs my entire time there (shifty cabbies are alot of what fueled my "resentful" remark earlier)

Chicas:

As I didn't want to be one of those guys who never gets out of the HDR, I visited a couple different chica venues. I recommend joining that other site, at least for their map/pricelist, it pays off in the end.

Massage parlors

Zona Blue - As reported earlier, a good many of the crowd favorites have left ZB. I'd recommend calling ahead if you are looking for one in particular. Those that bailed seem to have split between Sportsmans and the HDR. That being said, the new talent is, eh, not bad, not spectacular. Lots of cute nicas, but the bodies could have been tighter. I did not see any straight stunners, or any of say, Karen's caliber (I know, tall order to fill) I will not expound on the benefits of the Pam & Kristina combo, other than to say they left me totally without sperm, and by the time I woke up all the girls had gone home (dammit) One thing I noticed was different, I was informed several times (by signage, and even by the manager when I checked in) about the tipping policy. Apparently alot of guys got their panties in a twist by being asked for tips. I got a chuckle out of this- ticas like money, and they aren't afraid to ask. If you are afraid of saying no to women in general, may I suggest that SJO is not for you. Girls here are sharks and a half.

New Fantasy - I am starting to think the tinted fishbowl glass is not really for the comfort of the clients, and more to conceal the girls various imperfections, dim lighting, etc. I actually like this place, the facilities are nice-ish, kinda cool getting a massage in the steam room. BUT, without exception, everytime I get a girl here, once the clothes come off its a horror show. Stretchmarks and tica tummy abound. Girl seemed kinda bored. I think she'd rather be back in the fishbowl watching tv, lol.

70E - 2 girls, neither attractive, walked out.

Europe 2000 - Couple fatties sitting around eating, watching TV and sweating in the heat. They giggled when I did a immediate 180 and ran.

Hotel Marracuswhateverhowyouspellit - This is actually a low-budget hostel with a waiting room in front. All girls busy (saturday)

Bar Dorado - Closed? or maybe I was just too early. 2pm.

Muses - Two girls, one REALLY ugly, one passable. This was my only low-rent MP session. Girl increadibly unenthusiastic, as seems the norm at the lower priced spots. Room TOTALLY BARE, mattress on the floor, florescent light hand-splashed with blue paint. Price 12k/hr. You get what you pay for.

Strip clubs

Centerfolds - Seems to be closed down. Two years ago this place had higher quality than HDR, by leaps and bounds. I was only in there once and saw not one but TWO solid tens (Colombianas, go figure) However I didn't get to sample as the prices were outrageous; 15k girl drinks, girl + room fee around $200US. No wonder they closed, too bad- had we not physically pulled him away one of my friends would've married this hot Calena.

Pantera Rosa - Well everytime I think I want to check out different strip clubs, I never get further then this one. This is possibly one of my favorite places on the planet. Make sure to arrive promptly at 10:30, as it fills up quick with lookie-loo no-tipping ticos. Best seats are the couches in the corner adjacent to the girls bathroom, for obvious reasons. The girls are just slightly below HDR level, and a few are above. Plus its cool how the chicks come out of this hole in the floor of the stage. The format is, spy a chick you like, buy her a drink for 3.5k and they grind on you for a few songs. Build a repoire and they'll drink alot slower. You can bang them onsite but the room fees are expensive- I think the girls realize this and ALL were eager to give their contact info, even right in the middle of the club with staff watching, so I guess its not against the rules or anything. One night I grabbed easily the hottest girl in the club, turns out she spoke perfect english and was increadibly friendly. She also happened to be the designated onsite pharmacist! I told her how much the stuff sells for in the states and her mouth literally hung open, that was classic. Did her there and the next day at the hotel.

Hotel Del Rey

The phrase "it is what it is" springs to mind. Probably the best thing about this place is the hoes are omnipresent, even at 11am on a Sunday. And it does serve one purpose, when you really just want the dopest chick possible. So my first day I spot this platinum blonde with HUEG tits, nice body and what looks like 20lbs of botox injected into each lip. So just for kicks I go to see what the price is, and she quotes $150 (LOL) The funny part was, when she opened her mouth to speak, her teeth were rotted and crooked like some old hag!! I think the genuine look of revulsion crossing my face actually shocked her- I turned around without saying a thing and immediately she's calling after me offering $100 or lower. Sorry sweetie, not for all the tea in China with that kind of trenchmouth. So I drink a bit, ok a lot, and I'm up $50 at roulette so I figure what the fuck, lets grab me a stunner. So I find Andrea from Cali, for $100 and she left early, after only getting $80 (yeah I pay cien sometimes but at least I dont pay in advance) I'm like whatever *****. Next night I'm in the same kinda mood and I find Lorena from Cali. Whoa, this one started at $120.. sharp cookie! Eventually came down to 80, and was just so increadibly sweet and personable. I would have regretted missing out on her over some nickel and diming. So I finish with her, come back downstairs, gamble more and get STINKING DRUNK. Ended up being waylayed by a cute flaca 18 yr old with her rotund cousin in tow. And when I say rotund, I mean ***** was as wide around as she was tall. I could not shake her. Ended up taking both of them for 30k, the flaca was good at least.

And thus ends my quick foray in SJO. Like I was saying before, as destinations go, its not particularly nice, BUT it does have its place, and that is a quick 3 day trip when one is low on funds. Personally any longer than that the atmosphere just starts to grate on me, but to each his own.

Mr Jetsetter

05-20-08, 09:07

Member #2964

Your point is well taken, and I am in general agreement with you in both theory and practice. But you and many others who make this argument often never get around to really defining the parameters of your argument. Is paying $100 so bad if you are getting 2-4 hours with a top-shelf lady with pre-negotiated services like BBBJ and anal? Is paying $100 a bad deal for a TLN? Prolijo's post touches upon these distinctions. Are you saying never pay cien regardless of time and services? BTW, I generally pay $60-80 for one to two hours at the Sportsmens and DR, and I fully recognize I could probably do better. Frankly, this session length generally works fine with me, as I'm basically a "short term" kind of guy. I have now come to the belated conclusion, however, that better deals can be had at the DR than the SL, where the ladies seem to command and get top dollar and CBJs are depressingly becoming the insisted-upon norm.

Having spent some time investigating the "low end" MP scene, it does seem that the days of $7.00 BJs are a thing of the past. Inflation is even hitting this end of the market.

ChiliMike

05-20-08, 16:50

Xion. I enjoyed your report and you are right on with many things you wrote about. You must have picked odd times for some of the mp's you hit as I go to all of them as well and mostly find at least 5 to 7 more girls at each one you listed. You may want to check out 6th street at there are a few mp's that are worth the walk (day time). Your walking from panta rosa is a bad mess just waiting to happen. You sound like a guy who knows his way around and to think (and worse) to post that walking from there is safe. Is foolish and makes me think why you would even post this. As money gets worse everywhere the druggies that hang in that area will soon get word that you are a gringo (= $) and you openly talk to girls inside the club about drugs (gringo walking alone $ & drugs) only a matter of time. You have been lucky so far. I don't mess with drugs and drink little and take a cab 100% at night and I still got robbed. Please continue to post but to say that it is safe to walk at night is a fools game that you will lose.

Xion149

05-20-08, 20:20

You sound like a guy who knows his way around and to think (and worse) to post that walking from there is safe. Is foolish and makes me think why you would even post this.

It was my opinion. I'm not a big dude, and I'm certainly not fighting anyone, but no glue sniffing fiend is catching my ass, or will even come close enough to try.

As money gets worse everywhere the druggies that hang in that area will soon get word that you are a gringo (= $) and you openly talk to girls inside the club about drugs (gringo walking alone $ & drugs) only a matter of time. You have been lucky so far. I don't mess with drugs and drink little and take a cab 100% at night and I still got robbed. Please continue to post but to say that it is safe to walk at night is a fools game that you will lose.

Whoa man. You are inferring alot of things that did not happen. The girl brought up the drug subject, not openly, more like into my ear while grinding on my lap; and talking about does not equal buying- did I say I bought any? That's a special occasion thing for me and this was not the occasion.

I hate to say it but I think you got distracted by the girl. You had all the warning signs, the bad feelings, but you went for it anyway? Then once they already had your money, you wanted to argue with one over the empty wallet. Its just a series of bad choices, see what I'm saying? Its like any big city, you have to be observant and make the proper decision to avoid becoming someone's lunch.

The second you saw those guys sizing you up you should have gone back inside the club and asked someone to call you a cab.

ChiliMike

05-21-08, 02:43

Please don't make things up. Read my post. Again! I didn't argue over a empty wallet. My wallet was full of my id, credit cards and most important my atm card. If the asshole gets that I am screwed, I keep my cash in my front pocket. Where he took it! If you know the area which I think you do. The area across the street from vips 2 has never been written about here or on crt as a bad area. Yes I did feel something bad about the 2 guys and went back inside and when I returned they were gone or hiding. But my point is. I try my best to be safe and ran into bad luck (maybe good. I lost 90. 00 and no wounds) but you are asking for it, and posting about it! This site is for sharing information. And if a newbe read your post and went to panta rosa and waited for a cab. And no cabs came. Lets see I remember reading that it was safe to walk back to the delrey. Its just foolish and I wish you would admit it! This site dosnt get much action and I am not sure if you are a crt member but if you posted that it was safe to walk at nite from there. You would get 20 guys telling you that its a crazy and foolish ideal. And zero who would agree with you.

G Without Bush

05-21-08, 06:28

As have I. In fact I just got back. I walked twice, to and from Pantera rosa, at about 3am each time. It's not a problem for me, yet it obviously is for some people, since they posted about it. Neither did I buy into the Villalobos scam, but many people (possibly/probably reading this now) did. And if .....blah blah blahVery entertaining report, I must say. LOL.

By the way, does anyone know if HDR shows hockey on TV?

Xion149

05-21-08, 11:13

Please don't make things up. Read my post. Again! I didn't argue over a empty wallet. My wallet was full of my id, credit cards and most important my atm card. If the asshole gets that I am screwed

You did not specify that in your report, only said "he looked inside and saw no money". That to me means, empty wallet- because I don't carry credit cards, passport, atm or any of that shit. Cash only and a photocopy of my passport. Yet you were carrying all these things. Late at night. In a strange city you don't know. Do you see what I'm trying to say about bad choices? Are you noticing a pattern here yet? I said it was safe to walk, but I also qualified that statement- you can't look like a fucking mark. Never did I say wait outside Pantera Rosa for a cab, that is a BAD IDEA. I said have them CALL ONE FOR YOU, while you wait inside. There is a HUGE difference. Anyone who's been to Colombia will tell you the difference between calling for a numbered radio cab & pulling one off the street, ESPECIALLY in front of a girl club- one will get you safely home, the other can get you robbed. I'm sorry you ran into some bad luck, but there were also some bad choices made BY YOU.

Its just foolish and I wish you would admit it! This site dosnt get much action and I am not sure if you are a crt member but if you posted that it was safe to walk at nite from there. You would get 20 guys telling you that its a crazy and foolish ideal. And zero who would agree with you.

That is probably true, but its also just their opinion (I am a member actually). I don't post there for a reason. Alot of the really hardcore CR guys who have been visiting a long time, have some very strong opinions about things that I dont agree with. Example: I was reading a thread on there about this guy who felt cheated by a girl, so took $20 back from her while in the shower. Now certainly this is a cowardly/tacano move, I wouldn't do it. But to hear some of the responses on that site- a few people offered to track the girl down and pay her the difference. One long time poster went so far as to float the idea of selling out this person to some local ticos to get him beat up. I was fucking appalled. The idea that a girl can provide bad service, then mysteriously men she doesn't know will materialize out of thin air and start giving her free money is patently absurd to me. Furthermore that in a strange land filled with people looking to do one harm, that a fellow monger would even think of setting up a brother in favor of some chick who probly cheats guys on the regular- where's the solidarity? Fuck that. That board has alot of good info and some intelligent posters, it also has alot of guys that have been to SJO 327457145 times but probly haven't been anywhere else even once. They provide good info, but the perspective can sometimes be narrow. Believe me, you think SJO is tough at night? Try centro in Medellin. I'm not stupid, even I know to be off the street by 10PM out there. Ditto for most of Bogota. Its just my opinion, but I don't think the number, organization or intelligence of the glue-huffing street punks in SJO comes anywhere near the professional criminals in either of those places, or of some places in the US (think Brownsville or Bronx NY)

By the way, does anyone know if HDR shows hockey on TV?

Yup. the side of the bar playing the Celtics playoffs was full one night, the side I ended up sitting on had hockey on 2 TVs. Just ask the bartenders.

Tequila

05-21-08, 16:05

Easy man, I'm just posting my experience, if you don't like it or you found them very basics. Just don't read it. Probably somebody else will find it useful. Probably not. Anyway at the end it is about sharing experiences.

About the US$100. 00. It's the same, it is a matter of cost/benefit analysis. If you get a US$60 cute girl. Good for you, congratulations. Others might prefer to assure quality and look for additional services. There is no right or wrong, it is a matter of choice, each one can decide how to spend their own money.

BTW, I appreciate all the time that you invest on my report, I'll look for that SIM card that you talk about in your report.

Salud!

T

G Without Bush

05-22-08, 05:30

Does anyone know of any really good massage place in SJO? I was familiar with Helen 1.5 blocks West of HDR. But she's not there any more.

Kind of hard to find a massage service that does not wack/suck me off in 20 min. Sometimes it's nice to have a real massage by a pretty female. Any info. would be appreciated.

Polly Phonic

05-22-08, 10:13

Great to be back on ISG again. Thanks for all the tips guys and as usual thanks to Jackson for such a great resourse. Just got back from a few days rest (! ) in CR so I thought I’d give you my four pennies worth! Last here in 2004 nice to see that not a lot appears to have changed on the chica front.

Decided to stay in the HDR again. It’s not exactly five star but damn, is it convenient or what? Got in at 10:00 pm to find the usual wall to wall totty.

And who should be there soaking up the atmosphere in the lobby bar when I walk in, none other than me old mukka Cleanshave (remember Sophie’s Bar, Phnom Penn. "mind if I don’t shake your hand old boy because I have no idea where it’s been"? ).

Decided I wanted to take a few day trips (Arenal, Hot Tub, Jaco. That’s the travelogue over & done), and leave the evenings free to enhance my hobby experiences. Too lazy to walk far so kept to the hotel. Indeed, why travel when everything I need is on my doorstep (that’s what the current Mrs. Phonic keeps telling me anyway! ).

First up was Jessica. 31 year old Colombian girl (looks a good deal younger), very pretty, nice bod and good rack. Promised me the best sex I’d ever had for $150. Yeah right! I wonder if she’d ever met Miss Pneumatic Snatch in Boca Chica! Anyway, couldn’t be bothered to haggle for long so agreed on $100, paid the guest fee and off we went. Well, it was pretty good half hour, haven’t laughed so much for ages. She is a great fun gal is Jessica. She spoke a little English and does perform well although making me rub disinfectant gel onto my hands before I could get near her was a new one on me. Perhaps she’s worked in a UK hospital before.

Cut to evening number two. Decisions decisions? Meal then shag or shag then meal? Decided on shag, meal then another shag (God bless Mr. Pfizer! ). Saw Carla leaning against the BM wall, very pretty, tiny little 20 year old Tica, huge puppy dog, come to bed eyes, nice smile. Spoke a little English and agreed to join me in my boudoir for $80. Had a no holds barred GFE for about 40 minutes which really whet my appetite. Made me so happy I gave her a cien and told her to keep the change. She seemed very grateful!

Great meal in Café Luisa almost spoilt by the unintentional taxi tour of SJ because the driver had no idea which city he was in let alone the street names. Asked for $10 lucky to get the $5 my crewmate threw at him. On return to HDR had to sleep some of the Chardonnay off but got up at three and crept down to the bar. After turning away the usual assortment of late night doggies was approached by Vivienne. Not a stunner but she was a local girl and seemed very pleasant & not pushy at all. Gave me a nice neck massage at the bar after which I suggested she do the full body works upstairs. Settled in for lots of TLC & a lovely BBBJ and sent her off with $80 and her taxi fare home.

The last night. Had a fabulous rare Pepper Steak at Le Bergerac and then back to HDR for fun & games. Saw Carla again. She was with a tubby little mate who I didn’t fancy at all but after we got chatting her mate disappeared. If I was twenty years younger (and not the cynical cookie that middle-age and experience has turned me into) I could easily fall in love with a girl like Carla. Anyway, I broke my own "never go back for seconds" rule and took her upstairs for another session which turned out to be even better than the previous night’s. Had some work to do then so I spent a few hours chained to the laptop before venturing down for a last pop. Made the big mistake of choosing solely by looks and ended up with a stunningly attractive blonde girl who must’ve been a virgin because she sure as hell had no idea what to do with all the gifts with which she’d been endowed. Lousy attitude to boot. It was so unmemorable I can’t even tell you what her name was. Still, better than a lonely wank eh? You win some you lose some.

I wanna live here!

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Max Mojo

05-22-08, 16:50

g bush,

you might want to try rocio. she is a licensed massage therapist with a degree from usj. she is word of mouth and works outcall only. she will show up at your hotel with a massage table and will provide one of several types of massage. she will also go the extra mile, and believe me, her looks, body and personality are worth it. i don't have her current cell #, but i'm certain someone on this board can pm it to you. one thing she will do is want to meet with you before performing the massage. she's into the new age/ holistic thing big time, so she has to feel a certain vibe from you before agreeing to perform anything extra.

Prolijo

05-23-08, 03:28

Easy back at ya, Tequila. I'm sorry if you read my post as some sort of personal attack. I actually think it is great that you wanted to share your experiences. And I'll grant that somebody might find it useful or at least mildly entertaining. All I was trying to say was that it was not a Post of DISTINCTION (or if it was, it is a sign of how feeble this section has become).

I'm also glad you had a good time in spite of your mistakes. I think you'll have an even better time whenever you return to CR if you re-read my post as the constructive criticism it was intended. You said "it was very useful all the reports but I will try to share some of my learnings" and you have seemed to have learned some things, but most of that would have been more useful if you had read those earlier reports more carefully BEFORE you went. Then you could have avoided making a lot of those mistakes yourself.

About the US$100. 00. It's the same, it is a matter of cost/benefit analysis. If you get a US$60 cute girl. Good for you, congratulations. Others might prefer to assure quality and look for additional services. There is no right or wrong, it is a matter of choice, each one can decide how to spend their own money.As it happens, among many other titles, I'm a CFM (Certified Financial Manager) so I know a thing or 2 about CBA (cost-benefit analysis) as well as CR. Sure, some guys place a higher value on lower costs while others place a higher premium on "quality". However, you seem to be suggesting you think there is some sort of direct (negative) correlation between those 2 attributes. That paying more assures higher quality (or that you can only bargain with the lower quality chicas). You still don't seem to get it. With chicas in CR, things are never that simple.

First of all, do you remember your flight down? Do you think the guy in the seat next to you paid the same fare that you did? Of course not. In much the same way, guys can pay radically different rates for the same chica. I'd be willing to bet that those chicas that you so readily paid $100 for were going with other guys for much less, in some cases even half as much for the same service. And even if they wouldn't there were probably other similar quality chicas that would. Just as you wouldn't pay full fare for your air ticket unless you absolutely had to, you shouldn't overpay for chicas.

Secondly, what is "quality" anyway? Looks are the most obvious component of quality and also the easiest and quickest to spot in the bar. Such aspects as attitude and skill are not as easily determined. But even looks can be deceiving. Pushup wonderbras with extra padding are very common and those wonderful curves in skin tight jeans can later spill out and just keep spilling out and don't get me started about carefully concealed stretchmarks, ceasarean and other scars. Attitude is something else. As you discovered, it can sometimes be discovered right at the bar, as you learned with the Colombiana at the "Cayo" Largo, however these chicas can be great actresses and very often will present one attitude will trying to make the sale and reveal an entirely different attitude when they get back to your room. And then there is the aspect of skill, which is probably the hardest aspect of quality of all to predict just on the basis of casual interaction back at the bar.

Of all these, looks are probably the one aspect that most closely correlates with price. Super hotties can often command the highest price, while the gorditas can often be brought down to super low prices (assuming anyone would even want to bother with them). But even here, you will find some gorditas who for some unfathomable reason will hold out for the "super hottie" price and even more incredulously sometimes get it. That only goes to show the subjectivity of beauty. OTOH, you can also find really cute girls who probably could get $100 if they waited long enough for the right guy but who will go with you for much less if you exercise a little style and finesse.

Which brings me to my 3rd and final point. PAYING MORE DOES NOT ASSURE QUALITY. In fact, there are a lot of reasons why it might actually lead to the exact opposite. Whether they reveal that aspect readily at the bar or not, super hot chicas who can most easily commmand $100 "por una hora" have all the more reason to rush through their sessions so they can get back to the bar and do it all over again. Unless you're quite clear that it is "por una hora completo" and that you "pago solamente quando completo" you may find that she thinks una hora means "until you come" which she'll make sure happens quickly. And even if you take those precautions her attitude after "completing her job" may be such that you'd be just as well off sending her on her way after you pop your first load. There is even a running bet that some vets make when they see luststruck newbies head up the stairs or out of the bar with there superhottie prizes, how long it will be before that superhottie is seen again back at the bar working on her next mark. With the smoothest operators that time is often embarassingly short. And even if these "quality" chicas don't rush you through your session, they have less reason to put much effort into the session or work on their skills because they don't need to in order to find guys that will go with them.

You are correct that everyone can decide how to spend their own money. I'm not so sure about whether there is no right or wrong, but there are certainly approaches that seem very foolish to me. Personally, I'd rather go with a 7-8 who probably will have a good attitude back in my room and who probably will settle for something less than $100 for an hour or more, than go with a 9-10 who probably will not have the greatest attitude back in the room and who insists on $100 or more for an hour or less. YMMV, but I think a LOT of vets will agree with me.

G Without Bush

05-23-08, 07:53

TweedleD

05-25-08, 21:32

22 reports in the last 5 years and you don't ever really report anything and All the questions that you ask have already been answered by just going back a few pages,this is not meant as a flame but as ameans to keep a pretty good thing good,I, in the past I have gotten very specific questions answered by PMing a member or two that had pretty good posts and had been in country recently, BTW cialis V available in any Pharmacy, ROOM BY the day or week your choice, can you get bud?YES The most you should pay Tln depends on weather your old and ugly or young and studley DUH? Bring as much money as you can, Credit cards with big limits and ATMs are widely accepted. Oh yeah and exchanging colones to dollars is pretty complicated so just lay out huge wads of cash and let your date take what she thinks is fair,and definately rent a car, driving in SJO is such a pleasure and you are probably going to want to get out of the gulch and do a bit of site seeing not to mention Taxis are very expensive,and theres simply amble parking everywhere. How much to bring for a week of fun? US$10,000.00 I hope this helps

Qncterra

05-25-08, 23:55

This report is a little late, because I was here in April, and am now planning a return trip in July, but some things are better late than never.

Anyhow, I took a poster's advice and emailed Dr. Sergio Chen for some dental work. He did it during the week that I was here in April and I saved a bundle. Fortunately, the work didn't hurt, so I was able to enjoy the atmosphere while I was here. Also, I was surprised to run into two others at the hotel who were here to see Chen. He is so polite and respectful. Those who have met him will know what I mean.

I stayed at the Morazan, as usual and found the price ($40/night) and accomodations acceptable, as everybody knows me there now. I visited BM several nights, but found the quality a little lacking, compared to trips in the past. Maybe I'm just getting used to it but there was some good eye candy. However, I'll never get use to having a few fat and ugly women, say "un cien dollars" with a straight face.

With a few exceptions, I spent most of my time relaxing with the mediocre and average looking staff at New Fantasy. I even had one bad experience there, with a mechanical clock watcher. I can't remember her name, but will add it if she is still there in July. Also, I was hoping to check out Bar Monaco, but didn't on this trip.

This is lacking some detail, but maybe I can fill in more in July. I still make at least one trip to La Princesa Marina, but with the price of gas I'll share a taxi with anyone interested. Just PM me, or check with the front desk at Morazan after July 7th.

Qncterra

05-26-08, 00:06

Mexidan

05-26-08, 06:22

I booked a round trip ticket on American Airlines, from ORD to SJO for $325, for April 2-15. At the airport, went across the street and up the escalator to the entrance terminal where I stopped at a Banco de Costa Rica kiosk and received a greater exchange rate than the place near baggage claim. I walked down the sidewalk to the street below and caught a bus to San Jose, cost about 75¢, then transferred to a taxi once I hit the bus station (final stop), cost $2. Checked into a nice studio room at el Presidente for $55/nt.

I love staying at the Presidente because it’s clean and elegant, wireless internet and the free, hot breakfast in the AM. It’s also around the corner from the Del Rey and Horseshoe Casino. Other people think the security is a pain when it comes to checking in girls, but I like the extra layer of security. I think that working girls are more ameble when taking them back to the hotel because they don’t want to risk getting banned from the entire hotel. The list seems to be enforced like the black list in Vegas! Also, I like the fact that you can pay your exit tax at the hotel, makes for one less thing to do at the airport.

Horseshoe Casino. I like this casino. The casino is clean and the hostesses are pretty hot. The best time for me was at noon or shortly after. The casino is pretty empty, and no ticos are in there. The minimum on blackjack was 500 colones. They also pass around and register you for a raffle. Registration is free, and if your name is picked, you get to spin the wheel to win some colones. The one drawback of this place is that it seems to be under constant construction. It seemed that, during my peak, they were busy replacing chairs, table felt, slot machines, etc. That was annoying. Also, beware the drunk Tico at night. One got pissed at me during Rummy because I hit on 16 (dealer showed King) and took a 6 that the guy needed for Rummy. That’s when I learned to play at the table of Americans at night, costs a little more but the peace of mind is worth it.

Bored with CR? I think I definitely learned that, when you have been here several times, coming for 2-weeks at a time can actually bore you. I don’t leave SJO because I don’t fish and can’t swim. Del Rey, Zona Blue, Blue Marlin, etc, seem to be the same as every trip. I’m not jumping to the evil side where people bash SJO, but for me it has become a place where it is great to go for a quick weekend trip but not an extended trip. Also, Idem raised their prices and only offer 1 hour rates now, so it fell out of favor with me as compared to other trips. Due to this, I got to learn about new places: the Low Rent Day Places!

Low Rent Day Places are definitely a good bargain and actually pretty decent places. Though I never took the Official Low Rent Tour (though I wish I would have), I did my own tour by walking out of Zona Blue, boozed up but having not partaken inside, and walked around. Within 3 or four blocks are several places where you could find a diamond in the rough and for about $15-$20. I forget the names of two places I visited (one is somewhat hard to spot, has a small pink sign on the top of the building), but I had two of my best sessions in these two places. Definitely good times!

Wingman. I usually travel alone and meet up with people at Sportmen’s Lodge. This is the first time that I felt like a CRT elder during a trip. I found myself often talking to newbies and telling them/showing them around town. It was cool here and there, but there are times when you want someone you can share some war stories with and that knows the areas as well as you do. I can say that I was proud to have met TonyTC. He was the one wingman that I liked making the rounds with and shooting the shit with. Tony, the visions of "Jail Bait" from Del Rey will forever be burned into my mind. LOL.

Ticas of the Month. I had the opportunity to be with one of the cutest women in SJO, the lovely Carina. She is so quiet and sweet. Having met at Sportmen’s Lodge, I felt some butterflies just talking to her. She met me the following day at my hotel, bright and early at 7am (right on time, wow! ) She looks gorgeous in lingerie, however, it was such a shame what the plastic surgeons did to her when giving her a boob job and tummy tuck. They really did a butcher job to her, and with her being so sweet it really was a shame. If she only realized the beauty she had before she went under the knife, I thought to myself frequently. Oh well, tis the name of the game for these girls.

I tried to session with Francia, Dec 2007 TOM. She gave me her number. I tried calling and emailing to no avail. Seemed kinda flaky in one email, then sends an apology (for not meeting me) email a week after I left. Next was Karen, March TOM. She is working out of Sportmen’s also and her number is posted in CH site. Tried calling a few times here as well. Once a different female answered saying she would call back in a min (never did). Finally met her at the Lodge, talked to her for about 5 mins, ordered her a drink. We agreed that we would have a few drinks and then head back to the Presidente. As we talked, I introduced her to a mongerer that I met from my first trip (University of Michigan Alum, I forget his name.) After the introduction, he asked to talk to her for a second. Literally, a minute later, he takes her back to his room. I mention this only because it was real shady how he did that. I lost a lot of respect for him for doing that and am of the mindset that I will let him know how wrong he was for doing that. Still a little steamed, I hope that if and when I see him again that I have cooled down and "forgiven and forgotten. " As for her, eh, NEXT! LOL.

Wrap up. All in all a good trip, not a great trip. Got to the airport early in the AM, flight was delayed 6 hours. AA did make up for sending me an apology email for the delayed flight and also crediting my account 5, 000 miles without me even asking. I met a couple cute chicks on my flight back home to ease my pain: one who was gorgeous but oh so married (cocktease! ) and the other a Venezuelan Dentist who has invited me to visit her at home (loves to talk politics, very adamant in expressing her opinions). I got home with a smile on my face, and while I had a good time in SJO, I was happy to be back in Sweet Home Chicago!

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Project

05-27-08, 03:44

I visited San Jose last week. I had been there a couple of times more than 5 years ago.

Flew in from Atlanta and made it through customs pretty good. The luggage belt delayed us, but a quick taxi ride to the Morazon made up for it. My room was ready as per phone reservation. I was only charged $35 a night including breakfast. That was a great deal as I was quoted $45 by phone. Oh well.

Morazon is pretty good. Close to Del Ray and Key Largo. And a 5 minute walk to New Fantasy and Zona Blue.

The Del Ray was pretty busy. But not like a few years ago. Many Colombian chicas. All wanted cien. Some stunners.

5 years ago I had made a deal with a real cute Tica named Vanessa. Fairly short, hot body, large breasts and geaorgeous face. I took her to Jaco for 4 days. Only 100/day. And we had alot of fun. A total GFE. I did not hook up with anyone I wanted to take to Jaco early. So spent all time in San Jose.

Went to New Fantasy quite a few times to see the action. Had 2 really good 1/2 hour sessions. The selection was not that great. The two chicas a selected were both energetic and loved fucking.

Went to New Fantasy and had 4 sessions. My best was with Tonia. She was a great GF experience. BBBJ and lots of hugging and contact. I fucked her for so long missionary and doggy style. It was a memorable session.

Had 3 other sessions with some hot ticas in Zona Blue. I forget their names. One was tall with nose ring. Very fit and sexy. I fucked her so hard and long. We were both sweating. The other 2 sessions were pretty good too.

Zona Blue is a good way to spend 1 hour. Great massage and hot sex and price pretty good.

Del Ray was busy most nights as usual. Had a couple of great experiences with Colombians. Paid more than I wanted to. But they were pretty hot. I insisted on them staying 2 hours. And that was my way of not feeling bad about cien. Great sessions with multiple performances.

San Jose is a great place to go for 4-5 days. Anything more than that gets rather boring. Unless you hook up with a girl for a few days. Met lots of interesting guys with funny stories.

Made a bet on game 7 of Spurs/Hornets game. Took San Antonio for 100 and won that bet as the Spurs kicked ass.

San jose is an intetesting town. Some nice places to visit. Outdoor adventures. Gambling. Hot women. Drinking. Lots of sex. Great vacation. Highly recommend it for all guys at least once.

La Pura Vida. Oh yeah

G Without Bush

05-28-08, 22:37

How hard is it to get Cialis or Viagra here?Very simple, enquired at all farmacias.

Price varies from $0.75 to $15 a pop.

Rzoll77

05-29-08, 16:06

I would like to know where in CR you purchased V for .75$?

It is more like between 2$ and 15$ a pop.

A few insiders here in CR are selling generic C 20mg for 3$. A great deal.

Nortelx

06-06-08, 02:35

One got pissed at me during Rummy because I hit on 16 (dealer showed King) and took a 6 that the guy needed for Rummy. The proper play would have been to surrender (if you only had 2 cards), that made it a double mis-play to the Tico.

Julio Frippo

06-06-08, 20:00

What is it with the attraction for Columbian women here and on the CRT site? Having been to CR twice (will return in August) and having experienced a few Columbians along with a variety of other Hispanic type females, I ask, WTF is the big deal. The Columbians I had were not any better or worse than the Tica's, Nica's and others I have experienced. The Columbians didn't have two pussies, two mouths or two assholes. I think all of the hype about Columbians has convinced many that they are better sexually than other woman. Get real. There is certainly is a difference in how a women will preform on any given night but it has nothing to do with nationally. As my Uncle Duke was fond of stating; a pussy is a pussy, even if it's on a cow! And before any wise ass comments that the problem might be my dick, forget it, according to the latest Gallup ***** poll coming out of CR, 90% of the woman I screwed were completely satisfied, the other 10% said they were Tranies so they weren't sure because I screwed them before they completed their sex change operations.

Keep smiling!

MexMale

06-08-08, 19:26

San Jose is a great place to go for 4-5 days. Anything more than that gets rather boring. Unless you hook up with a girl for a few days. I couldn't agree with you more. The P4P is good, but you also need to take in the sights.

My travel buddy and I recently spent a week there. In addition to beautiful women from all over the Caribbean, we found a country that is very tourist-friendly and filled with natural attractions.

Our trip got off to a rough start, as we were greeted by Tropical Storm Alma. Every time we'd go out we'd get soaked despite the umbrellas. Luckily, we were staying at the Hemingway Inn (Ave. 9 at Calle 9) a couple of blocks from the action.

Our first stop was New Fantasy right down the hill. About a dozen girls sitting in sofas on the other side of a one-way mirror. My friend chose the best looking one, a slim morenita with long legs, long black hair and a very nice face. I went for attitude and grabbed a Tica named Pati with a yellow dress and curves.

The set up is a bit, ah... communal. After we went up to our room we shed our clothes, wrapped ourselves in towels and went back downstairs for a shower and sauna. There were two couples in the shower stalls so we had to wait in line. I wish they had more privacy. On to the sauna and back to the room for a lengthy session with a girl that doesn't mind small-talk and getting lovey-dovey. I'd give Pati a 7 for looks but a 9 for effort and attitude. Cost:45

Spent most of the night drinking at the Sportsman's Lodge up the hill on Ave. 9 and the next morning at Zona Blue. What a bevy of beauties. Ticas, Nicaraguans, Dominicans and even one Cubana. Her name is Laura, she's a green-eyed bleach blonde who likes to play with a vibrating toy during the sessions. She was a bombshell in every respect and left me exhausted on the table while she kept playing with her thing. I'm not clear how she wound up in CR, I'm just glad she's there. Cost: 53.

My friend and I spent a couple of nights at Del Rey. He has a thing for Colombianas and left with company both nights. I didn't see anyone who made me fall in love, so I mainly enjoyed the view and drank.

Went back to Zona Blue early afternoon and sessioned with a young Nicaraguan named Jeni (Jessee?). She looked hot in her short blue skirt but was a bit mechanical. Still, she made up for it with her looks and little-girl demeanor. Cost: 53

As the storm subsided my friend and I decided to book an extended tour of Arenal and Jaco. Set off early and spent the morning taking pictures of the volcano and the afternoon at the thermal pools in Tabacon. It was great. Then our guide drove us three hours to a small hotel behing Chiquita's Bar near the beach in Jaco.

It was a Saturday night, but the Beatle Bar was kind of slow. Sure, there were at least 40 women, but they seemed a bit lethargic. As the night wore on and they realized the previous nights' storms had kept most visitors away, a few of them started to work the floor. Numbers were in our favor and my friend quickly got a petite, big-eyed Dominican morena back to the room. He's a hard-core haggler. 50 he said. I was talking to a Colombian named Karen, but I got a bad vibe and moved on to a table where three girls were talking and drinking coke. I didn't get the prettiest one, but the one with the best attitude. Veronica, a Nicaraguan, didn't even start at cien. We settled on .6 and went back to my hotel. It was good, but without A/C in the room it was a steamy affair. She let me take pictures but asked me not to post them.

It's hard to be down here and not take in the nature. I spend most of the next day at Jaco playing with the waves, walking on the sand and sampling the food. On the way back our guide stopped at a bridge where you can see crocodilles (alligators?) sunbathing on the banks of a river under a bridge.

Went back to San Jose and Del Rey, where my friend hooked up again and I won $30 on the slot machines. Walked over to Key Largo where I spent the night talking to a cute bartendress named Aurora. Turns out she already has an American boyfriend, so I went home empty handed, slept a little and paid another visit to Laura at Zona Blue to cap the trip. It'll be hard to ever forget her big, green eyes and killer smile.

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Junky11

06-10-08, 23:57

Mr Jetsetter

06-11-08, 22:35

Can't say I've ever spent any time with any Columbian women, so I can't really comment on Julio Frippo's expert commentary. I can say I have dallied with approximately 50 or so lovely Colombian ladies, or Colombianas, in my day, most of them at Campo Alegre on the island of Curacao and a handful of takeouts from the Del Rey. I'm no expert, but if I had to chose the countries that produce the most beautiful ladies in the world, Colombia would easily be in my top three. Interestingly enough, the Colombianas on their 3-month stint in Curacao were almost uniformly sweet and fun to be around. Their counterparts from the Del Rey generally much more hardened and "professional." I confess I have never been to Colombia, so again I need to state that I am hardly an expert here.

Julio Frippo

06-14-08, 18:44

I can't disagree with Mr. jetsetter concerning the beauty of Columbian women in general. Even so, unless one equates beauty with excellent sex, I stand my ground that Columbians are no better in the sack than other women. Generalizations about almost any culture is usually all in the mind of the beholder. Hell ,when i was a kid I was convinced that oriental womens pussies ran horizontially across their body instead of verticle. And please. some of you old timers don't come back with that age old answer to the oriental horizontal pussy question "it all depends on how you look at it."

Mangera

06-15-08, 13:10

I could not disagree more. Columbians are the hottest women south of the border.
And north of the border as well.

DrBrew1

06-16-08, 03:07

Mahal

06-23-08, 00:37

Decided to stay at hotel Presidente after reading the reviews, really a very nice upscale hotel suitable for both business and hobbying travelers and very close to the bars (was told not to walk back from BM at night though).

I must emphasize that the dress code for the ladies, which is mentioned elsewhere on this forum, is very strictly enforced. I ended up having to take my chica back home at 5AM so she could change, after the Presidente's security absolutely would not let her in with a skirt above her knees (damn, even the school girls have skirts above knee level). I argued for a while with the night manager, who swore he would do the same if she was my mother in law, I don't think so... Besides this very unpleasant incident the hotel is really fine, at least the lobby, the bar and the large jaccuzzi suite.

Blue Marlin crowded all night, but I don't really like the setting, just too aggressive for me, prefer Key Largo across the street for the music and the bar, the same chicas cross the street between both locations. Most won't approach you unless approached first, that is except for the ugly ones since they know they won't get approached. All quoted $100/ST or $200/LT and with few exceptions the nicer girls were gone by 1AM.

Went to Zona Blue for the first time, fun place, a bunch of mongers were taking close ups of ladies stripping at the bar and spending what appeared to be a lot of money on 2 girls so they would keep stripping. 7 girls at 7:00PM, in the 5-7 range, nothing extraordinary but not bad, would go back. No one approached me but the girls were all over the older guys, white hair or bald with a fat wallet seemed to be the seduction factors, as would be expected in a brothel-type setting. Rooms available on site, drinks were fairly expensive as I recall (4 or 5,000), compared to the BM.

Tried New Fantasy and really did not like it, 5 girls watching TV behind a window hoping you won't pick them. Looks from 3 to 6, I took the 6, nice body, mechanical CBJ and a couple positions, I did get a nice massage though. Another post accurately described the "Communal" shower facilities. Would not repeat. I can't remember how much I paid but it was consistent with the info in this thread, and not worth more.

Back to my original Chica at the Presidente, Julietta, she was all over me at Key Largo, lots of DFK, very sexy, brought her back home after the Presidente incident, she wanted to go to a short term hotel but I insisted on going back to my room after she changed into tights (with no underwear...). That got us back into the Presidente around 6AM. She had been drinking a lot and fell asleep. I woke her up and explained I had no time as I had to leave in an hour, she could either stay and have sex with me (that is before I found out neither of us had condoms) or I could bring her home again. She ended up staying, performed a decent BBBJTC, and I paid her $100 as agreed. Nice girl but pretty smashed from the vodka/gin blend she was drinking all night.

Overall not the best or the worse experiences, maybe could be fun with more time.

Big Bob 7

06-23-08, 07:42

I just got back from my second trip to this shithole. I arrived and the first thing that happened was that my cabbie tried to rip me off. I was tired from the flight and exchanging a little bit of money at the airport while my cabbie was waiting at the window. While the guy behind the window was looking for change she said that she had the bill that he was looking for and offerred it to me taking the cash. He was in on it. On the way out she tells two cabbies that we are passing that she already hit this sucker (that would be me) for 5 bucks. We argue in the cab down and I get the money back. I met some locals and started partying with them. They turned out to be the wrong people. Somehow in the midst of this the cops started following me. EVERYWHERE! They harrassed me every day of the trip first starting with uniformed fuerzas publicas and then with young unarmed thugs (probably OIJ undercover officers) then later with English speaking fake "American style monger types". There are people openly smoking weed on the street everywhere and scamming every gringo in sight with every con in the book and these assholes are fucking with ME! In addition to the tails they had "hookers" come up to me who just happened to want to take a look at my passport entry stamps and ask me twenty questions. Then really obvious tourist types would come up to me and nonchalantly ask me where they could score (real subtle).

I made the mistake of repeating with Rachel at New Fantasy. She was one of my favoritas from the first trip. She informs me that a tip for BBBJ and CIM at New Fantasy is now standard. She tried for ten bucks. She got five an no repeat business. She is still fine as hell and can really suck some dick but her attitude has really gotten worse. She is all business. She told me that she had a lot of clients that day and really needed her day off. She also told me that she likes New Fantasy better than Zona Blue because tourists aren't coming to San Jose like they used to and New Fantasy has a steady stream of Tico clients. She said that she prefers Tico clients to foreign ones. I went down to that dump on calle 11 passed Tin Jo and Idem. I can't remember the name of the joint but the girls were young and looked liked dirty crack heads. I sessioned with a Nica starfish who was so lame I had to finish with a handjob and show her how to give one. Luckily the damage was only about 20-25 bucks. The most fun that I had was dragging a Nica hooker from the DelRay around all night from club to club trying to lose the cops. I had a good time dancing salsa and cumbia with the girls at Key Largo as old-assed, uncoordinated, bald, drunken fuckers kept bumping into us on the dance floor while they were looking for the beat in all of the wrong places. I spent the rest of the trip up in Heredia trying to wait for the heat to die down. It didn't. Trouble followed me out there too. I contracted a lawyer using the U. S. Embassy's list and went to talk with the cops in Heredia. They told me that no investigation was in progress and that they had no problem with me. The next thing that I know all the cabs that I get into don't know where shit is and routinely get lost and all of the drivers want to play twenty questions and NOONE knows "the way to San Jose" but Dionne Warwick. Then I read in la nacion that my "local friends" were picked up in a raid in Jaco by the OIJ. Then my bank puts a hold on my account because of the money that I took out to pay the lawyer. Knowing that the cops were following me to every internet cafe and cabina stand that I went to I went to call the bank at the lawyer's office after being denied the use of a secure telephone line at the U. S. Embassy. (Those fuckers are totally useless at the embassy and you have to announce your reason for consulting them in front of everyone in the waiting room while they answer you over a fucking LOUD SPEAKER. No joke). The lawyer listened in on my call and stole my personal identification info and tried to steal money from my account.

I knew that these OIJ thugs were tired of watching me enjoy my vacation and that a frame up job was in the works and also due to the hold on my account and the fact that I couldn't remove the hold without this other asshole draining all of the funds out of it, I decided to get the fuck out of town in a hurry! My first trip here was lukewarm at best. This time the line up at the DelRay was noticeably lower in quality. The Colombianas that I saw working there wouldn't be able to pay a Colombian guy to fuck them at home. I can't believe that the mob is paying to sponsor those hags and they need more than braces and fake racks now. There were some HOT Colombianas on my last trip and I bagged the best one. The verdict. San Jose is a worthless peice of shit town that should ooze off of the map of the world and into a funky septic tank somewhere. It is the only place in the world now that is doing worse than the U. S. Economically speaking and you can feel the desperation of the people all around you. Spend your precious time and money elsewhere if you have any sense at all!

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DR Monger II

06-23-08, 18:26

I don't know, but mongering is one thing, but doing drugs. That brings another element into it that you don't want.

Lorenzo

06-23-08, 19:21

I just got back from my second trip to this shithole.....Spend your precious time and money elsewhere if you have any sense at all!

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Report of Distinction? Puh-leez! More like a clinical case study in paranoia. San Jose is far from my number one spot for mongering, but this report is over the top. I don't believe any of this poster's allegations. He appears to be highly delusional. Seriously, I think he needs help.

L

Paintergle

06-23-08, 21:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Bob 7

I just got back from my second trip to this shithole.....Spend your precious time and money elsewhere if you have any sense at all!

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Report of Distinction? Puh-leez! More like a clinical case study in paranoia. San Jose is far from my number one spot for mongering, but this report is over the top. I don't believe any of this poster's allegations. He appears to be highly delusional. Seriously, I think he needs help.

I would have to agree, possibly he really has never been there...i go every 30 days for 3 years and have a ball,, but then some people can't walk through life,,

Big Bob 7

06-23-08, 22:01

I guess that some of you will have to be made believers by experience. I had a hard time getting a lawyer to take my case because there is no money in criminal cases and most of them specialize in other things. One of the lawyers who wouldn't take my case told me that the police had followed HIM before. I don't know when you were in San Jose last Lorenzo but the ambience of that place has changed. This situation was real. The policed harassed the shit out of me for 2 and a half weeks and what sucks about Costa Rica is that you can confront them point blank and they don't have to tell you anything. There is NO authority that you can go to to get information and the cops are just plain thugs. The embassy is totally useless. The guy that I associated with who was later arrested pulled a three month sentence while he is awaiting his trial. They can throw you in jail and hold you while they decide if you are guilty or not. Be glad that you haven't found yourself in this same situation because if you had been through what I went through I am SURE that you would be a lot more paranoid than I was. They LITERALLY ran me out of town.

Big Bossman

06-24-08, 03:14

Big Bob? I feel something is missing from your story. I mean, it is unfortunate that you had such a bad experience ... but what were you doing that was attracting such bad attention from -it seems- everyone? Please do share. Or at least ponder this issue to yourself so that you can hopefully avoid such bad fortune in the future.

SJO ... I'm going back there in a few days. I can't wait. It will be my second trip in two months and I dream of the beautiful ladies daily.

Fantasy

06-24-08, 06:03

It seems that "BIG BOB" is trying to direct traffic away from San Jose. Those of us who frequent the Colombia boards have already seen this. Before long Jackson will have to fully Moderate this place as well. I would agree that San Jose is one of the worst places to find real GFE, but i really don't think this report will carry much weight when sized up with thousands of favorable ones. I think when he mentioned that their economy was in the shitter he hoped to furthur discourage travelers from fucking his new girlfriend. But don't we seek crumbling economies?

Lorenzo, with our combined 1200 posts on this board, we may not have quite enough experience to comment here.
I think I should retract my statement and take Bob's advice!!!

Big Bob 7

06-25-08, 00:37

This is what happened to me as told to a friend via PM's.

Cpsta Rica is out of the bag and has been burned out by dumb ass gringos for years so I have no interest in trying to keep other yahoos away. I am making this info available because the environment in San Jose has changed and if you don't know about it you could wind up in a lot of trouble over some nonsense like I did. For those of you who have made 1000 posts and already know every fucking thing that there is to know in the universe PLEASE IGNORE THIS MESSAGE...P.S. don't drop the soap!!!

There was some kind of huge mobilization of police going on down there. In Barrio Amon there were like two fuerzas publicas on every corner and in the DelRay and Key Largo there were a lot of obvious American undercover agents. I met this guy from Limon and his girlfriend outside of the DelRay. They invited me to go to a hip hop/reggae club in San Pedro called Tavarua. We went and partied all night in the VIP section and invited up a load of fine assed local hotties. That morning I returned to the Inca Real. The next day I went to AS for some chicken wings and cops were following me. I wasn't even aware of it at first but a guy on the street came up to me and said, "dude you got problems", and motioned behind me. I realized that they might arrest me so I went to a cabina to call some relatives. They blocked the calls and recorded the numbers. I tried to walk to the Radisson and make a call and they sent a motorcycle unit ahead to talk to the front desk and keep me from calling out. I returned to the room and realized that the entire hotel had been emptied. There were no guests anywhere in sight. I tried to call from the room and none of the calls would go out. Then the front desk guy picked up the phone and acted like the operator and asked what number I was calling. He then informed me that the call would not go through. I started using the Internet then after about 20 minutes the Internet stopped working.

I realized that they could not stop a call at the airport so I took a cab out there to make the call. There are phones outside and inside at the departure terminal. I went to go inside to make the call and at the last minute I changed my mind just as the sliding doors were opening and turned towards the outside phones. I noticed six cops running towards me as if to grab me. When they saw that I was not going to go inside they tried to play it off as if nothing was happening (which was totally ridiculous at that point). I made the call and went to Key Largo because I knew that they had the Internet computers there. I sent messages to my family telling them what was going on. I then went to the DR and started drinking Redbulls because there were nothing but agents at the hotel and I thought that they might grab me there. I was approached by a Nica hooker who was really undercover. She was asking me all kinds of questions and then asked to see my passport and looked at all of the exit and entry stamps. During the talk she confided in me that her brother was working for the fuerzas publicas and that she had only been working the Rey for a month. Nobody seemed to know her there. I hung out with her all night going to Key Largo and some clubs in Barrio Mexico because I wanted to stay awake and feed her information so that she could realize that I was just a tourist and not some major drug kingpin. Undercover agents followed us everywhere that we went and stood at the edge of he dance floor watching us. There were from 6 to 9 of them at this point. It got late and I took her to a dirty, grungy fuck motel and fucked her and told her what I thought was going on. She was tryng to convince me to get a fake passort and illegally cross the border with her into Nicaragua (a set up) and told me to go back to the hotel because the police would not arrest me that night. I was to call her the next day to set up the escape. I didn't.

The next day I went to Heredia to cool out . I took the bus up there and then cab to hotel flores. I took a cab from there checked out of the Inca Real and moved to Heredia. I think that I lost them that night and that pissed them off. The next day I contacted a host family that I stayed with in Santa Barbara and arranged to move in with them. I figured that I would be safer out in the middle of nowhere. Bad move. They set up surveillance out there and talked to the family that I was with and turned them against me. Then they set up twenty four hour patrols of three motorcycle units and a police car and the big paddy-wagon with the siren on and circled the neighborhood for two and a half weeks straight. The whole town was in on it and people I passed in the street would be saying, "When are they finally going to grab that guy." It had to be annoying everyone because the sound of the vehicles passing and the sirens was deafening. I contracted a lawyer from the American Embassy list and went to the station with him in Heredia to see what was up. They said that there was no case on me and that they were not following me. The lawyer was slick and had lived in London and in the U.S. and spoke good English. He kept telling me not to worry about the tails but to get some money and have it ready. In retrospect I think that he was in with the police from the start.

After talking to the police in Heredia the cops put an undercover agent at every cab stand in Heredia so that when I approached the real cabbies would drive off and only the cops would be left to take me anywhere. They would grill me with questions for the whole trip and would act like they didn't know where anything was. For example, I wanted to return from Heredia and go to Santa Barbara and the guy took me to Barva. Stuff like that...and then would try to act like he had never heard of Santa Barbara. I could here the family talking to each other in hushed voices at night saying, "I hope that they grab him soon." Then the bank put a hold on my account which was really my fault because I forgot to call them before leaving for my trip. I knew that I needed a secure line to verify my identity and remove the hold and the American embassy would not provide me with one. I made the call at the lawyers office and he listened in and stole my info. He then tried to rob my account but luckily was not able to because the bank refused to remove the hold without me first sending some faxed signatures and copies of my ID. The hold blocked him out too but I was worried because I didn't have a lot of money left on me and now I couldn't remove that hold or he could clean me out.

I decided to do some research on the net to try to find out what was going on. I found an article which said that the guy that I had been hanging out with had been arrested on possesion with intent to sell in Jaco. He had mentioned wanting to make a trip to Limon to see his family and I think that he knew that the heat was on and wanted to get out of town. I also read about the OIJ (who had arrested him) and realized that I wasn't crazy in thinking that these young undercover goons were following me around (most OIJ agents are recruited directly out of high school and this accounted for their aggressive thuggy vibe.) In fact there were three of them waiting outside of the Internet cafe watching me as I was reading about them. On the way home the lady in front of me on the bus openly called the cops on her cellphone to tell them that I was headed back to Santa Barbara. (They never seemed to get it into there thick skulls that I speak fluent Spanish). On the way to the house a group of kids were sitting in front of the church on the plaza and one of them flipped me the bird and said, "Ahora ganamos."

When I got home I noticed a strong odor of cocaine in the back room across from where I was sleeping. I tossed the room looking for what they planted but couldn't find anything. Two days later the mother of the family that I was staying with said that she needed to remove the beds from that room because another family needed them. I knew then that the coke was probably in the frames. They had to do something because I wasn't a trafficker and the stalemate of watching me and harrassing the shit out of everybody in Santa Barbara was making them look bad. On top of that they are watching me go from club to club dancing , drinking, and fucking while they are outside somtimes in the rain on a steakout. This had to be getting old for them. I new that the fix was in and was running out of money so I left all of my shit at the house and made a break for it. My family bought me a ticket home and I jumped on a bus to Heredia. They had tails on the bus and I heard one of them say to the other, "He's going for the plane now!!". I jumped of the bus at a stop midway to Heredia where I saw three cabs waiting. I jumped in the cab and had him take me to the airport. At the airport a group of 6 agents followed me on the first leg of the flight. They just happened to all be seated around me. I just happened to be seated next to a superfine twenty something model quality Nica (also an agent) who just knew that I was THE most interesting person on the flight and was FASCINATED with me. She spent the flight milking me for info and then suggested that we spend our layovers together. I agreed until we got off of the flight and three out of the six cops went running ahead of me towards immigration. She was there to slow me down because I didn't have bags and she did. I ditched her telling her that we had to wait in two separate immigration lines anyway and that I would meet her on the other side and I went running towards immigration. I got through without being stopped and at that point I felt a lot better because I was officially back in my country.

This was the first time that anything like this has ever happened to me and it was a fucking drag. On top of that I wound up spending a lot of money on this crap and I lost my bag and everything in it but I am free and not in a Costa Rican jail so Cest La Vie. On the monger side of things it turns out that the undercover ho has the best pussy in San Jose. I went to some massage parlors, including a repeat with Rachel who is now a hardened, cold-blooded, gold-digging ***** who can't even spell GFE. The girls at the Rey have gone down and look really plastic and used up. The quality of the Colombianas has really taken a nose dive since I was last there. There were a couple of Black Colombianas working the Rey who would have had trouble moving that pussy in Cali....no joke. There would have been few takers and I was surprised that they could do business in San Jose. You can tell that people are pissed that the exchange has gone from 460 to 520 overnight and there is a lot of anti U.S. sentiment building over the decision to approve the TLC just as the American economy is tanking. The family that I stayed with in Santa Barbara now has iron bars surrounding their entire house and the lawyer who tried to rob me said that he moved his practice from Barrio Amon to to Pavas because his wife was robbed and almost strangled to death by a gang of Colombians in the mid-afternoon. I don't care what anyone else does but I will never go back there.

The guy I was with got arrested in Jaco with 20 something grams of pure coke ....20 grams of crack and something else. You speak Spanish right!!! Here is a link.
nacion.com/ln_ee/2008/junio/05/sucesos1565428.html

You have to put the www before this. If I didn't erase it I don't think that this message would display the link.

I could have met this guy at the Pueblo, in a restaurant....anywhere. And I don't believe that nonsense in the paper either. He used to work security at the club that he took me to and was happy when they offered to let him work the next night after we went. He told me that he dealt but he wasn't happy about it and was super small time. He was just a regular young guy who fell on hard times. Really he was living off of his girl who had a nice job in Cartago. They set this dude up just like they were going to set me up. He was no Escobar but he was a Black guy from Limon in San Jose and his profile made a good media story. While they were framing him the guys 10 rungs up the ladder from him are STILL dealing with impunity and immunity. And please note that I am not the only one on this board talking about undercover cops operating in San Jose now!

I never realized that partying with a stranger could get me in this much trouble. Actually, my instincts told me not to mess with that dude but I was thinking that he had some kind of hidden agenda. As time went along and he didn't try to con me out of any money or anything I thought that everything was cool. What I want to impress upon you and everyone on the forum is just that, for some reason now, there are a lot of undercover motherfuckers posing as mongers in and around the DelRay and to watch your back. This is something new in San Jose and it seems to be a joint effort with the U.S. police force or Interpol or something. So we all need to be a little more careful than before. Also if you check out the CR forum you will see that a lot of guys are being mugged in Barrio Amon in broad daylight now walking from New Fantasy to Zona Blue by armed motorcycle thugs. I think that what has happened is that as the economy has worsened the Colombians who were pimping those girls have turned to robbery as there own personal hustle.

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Junky11

06-25-08, 00:42

"Most borrowers know a late payment or high outstanding balance can hurt their credit. But what about frequenting a massage parlor, retreading a tire, or visiting a marriage counselor? Such activities count, too, according to a suit filed by the Federal Trade Commission in federal court in Atlanta on June 10 against card issuer CompuCredit ..."

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/08_26/b4090030423218.htm?campaign_id=rss_null

I'm re-thinking my stay at the hotel del ray. I mean I can stay at the holiday inn (not tica friendly) and just visit fantasy & ZB. A decent plan?

Prolijo

06-25-08, 02:10

I'm re-thinking my stay at the hotel del ray. I mean I can stay at the holiday inn (not tica friendly) and just visit fantasy & ZB. A decent plan?I think not!

First of all, the HDR is listed as a Hotel and Casino, not an MP. Sure, in actuality it is essentially the same as an MP, but do the credit company computers really know that?

Secondly, its not like the HI and the HDR are the only games in town. There are MANY other hotels that are MUCH more tica friendly than EITHER of those places (e.g. they dont charge the $50 and $10 guest fees that those places charge). And even though those places are arguably even more tica friendly than the HDR, I seriously doubt their names showing up on any credit card reciepts is going to raise any suspicions.

Third, if for some reason you absolutely have to stay at some hotel that either charges you $10 or more for the "right" to do bring back chicas or even doesn't let you bring back them at all, then that doesn't mean ZB or NF are the only other games in town either. Of course, there are lots of OTHER MP's and night clubs to choose from that offer on-premises entertainment but you could still pick up chicas at places like the BM or KL. You'd just might have to take them back someplace other than your non-tica-friendly hotel (e.g. the Hotel Asia has short-term rooms right around the corner from the BM for just $10)

And fourth, if you really like the HDR so much but don't want them showing up on your credit reports you could always pay your bill in cash. In fact, at some of the other TRULY chica friendly hotels you can sometimes get a pretty nice discount FOR paying in cash.

MJG Dogs

06-25-08, 02:45

While there maybe more than meets the eye to parts of his story. he does make a few valid points. Think about it san jose is a shithole, yes the CR authorities are corrupt also. They are. But experiences at the MP's, such as new fantasy and Zona Blue are usually decent. The Tony lama Butch Pavilion ( known as the HDR), is always a wild card. But a lot of it has to do with your expectations and attitude going in. As others have said, CR is not a play to find a girlfriend. many mercenaries.

Big Bob the US is not the only place having economic troubles. It is worldwide, perhaps you would like to visit Zimbabwe on your next monger visit, tell us how wonderful the Mugabe regime is.....

DrBrew1

06-25-08, 04:50

Member #2666

06-25-08, 05:02

I had a hard time getting a lawyer to take my case because . n.

because you don't have a case

Steveab

06-25-08, 21:32

In the DelRay and Key Largo there were a lot of obvious American undercover agents.

I tried to walk to the Radisson and make a call and they sent a motorcycle unit ahead to talk to the front desk and keep me from calling out.

I returned to the room and realized that the entire hotel had been emptied. There were no guests anywhere in sight.

I started using the Internet then after about 20 minutes the Internet stopped working.

I noticed six cops running towards me as if to grab me.

I was approached by a Nica hooker who was really undercover.

Undercover agents followed us everywhere that we went and stood at the edge of he dance floor watching us. There were from 6 to 9 of them at this point. Then they set up twenty four hour patrols of three motorcycle units and a police car and the big paddy-wagon with the siren on and circled the neighborhood for two and a half weeks straight. The whole town was in on it

When I got home I noticed a strong odor of cocaine in the back room across from where I was sleeping. I tossed the room looking for what they planted but couldn't find anything.

I knew then that the coke was probably in the frames.

At the airport a group of 6 agents followed me on the first leg of the flight. They just happened to all be seated around me.
I just happened to be seated next to a superfine twenty something model quality Nica (also an agent)

I agreed until we got off of the flight and three out of the six cops went running ahead of me towards immigration.This was bigger than the task force the FBI used to nail John Gotti. Must have cost them a couple hundred thousand dollars. After all this trouble they might come to your house with a hit squad.

Classic case of methamphetamine paranoia

Nixonbd

06-26-08, 00:09

It's obvious Big Bob 7's story has more to it than meets the eye. IMHO, he doesn't come off as a regular "mongorer" (sp?). Anyone who goes down there to "party with the locals" as he describes has a bit of another agenda and puts himself at risk. Those of us who go there strictly for the "tail" don't make waves to draw the eye (or ire) of local law enforcement. I'm booked for my 5th trip coming up in August and have never encountered questioning by anyone other than the girls out for a good time, like I am. I view SJ as having the same risks as any American metro area. My motto is: mind your own business, don't go places you're unfamiliar with, don't get blind drunk and you're pretty much going to get back to your hotel safe and sound. Again, MHO.

MrPenis

06-26-08, 00:20

Underwriter

06-26-08, 00:54

Found this on Craigslist. Looks like it might be interesting.

www.pirateclubcr.com

UW

Mangera

06-26-08, 04:09

Well, now that we read the book, when is the movie version going to be released?

Fantasy

06-26-08, 04:52

Report of Distinction? Puh-leez! More like a clinical case study in paranoia. San Jose is far from my number one spot for mongering, but this report is over the top. I don't believe any of this poster's allegations. He appears to be highly delusional. Seriously, I think he needs help.

L

DID YOU EVER GET THIS ONE RIGHT. I have no further comment on this matter, Everone has a right to their own opinion, Even if they are full of _______?

Prolijo

06-26-08, 05:05

I understand that Jackson may have his own agenda and as moderator of this board he can certainly "suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to [such reports] in the Reports of Distinction thread." OTOH, I'm glad he doesn't take it upon himself to do that unilaterally. AND, going beyond that, I really think he should at least modify his recommendation process to only suggest that someone else OTHER than the author himself post that link IF they agree with that assessment.

Fantasy

06-26-08, 15:06

Found this on Craigslist. Looks like it might be interesting.

www.pirateclubcr.com

UW

It looks pretty lame to me! I guess a good place to have a beer with ex-pats if you lived there, but hardly a place I want to go. Their are tons of joints just like this in San Jose. A guy with a little $$$ and plenty of time on his hands thinks he can steal a little action from the Blue Marlin. It can work if you couple a small hotel with it, as sportsmens has successfully done, but these others come and go as the wind blows!

Fantasy

06-26-08, 15:11

Prolijo

06-27-08, 00:51

It looks pretty lame to me! I guess a good place to have a beer with ex-pats if you lived there, but hardly a place I want to go. Their are tons of joints just like this in San Jose. A guy with a little $$$ and plenty of time on his hands thinks he can steal a little action from the Blue Marlin. It can work if you couple a small hotel with it, as sportsmens has successfully done, but these others come and go as the wind blows!It may or may not be lame but not for the reasons you suggest.

You don't seem to know what you're talking about. There are hardly "tons of joints just like this in San Jose." The rooms there are MUCH nicer than any other place I've been to INCLUDING ZB, NF and Idem. And beyond those few places which cater to the gringo crowd (as this one does), the tico places can be quite seedy and dirty. The original owners really sunk a lot of money into the place (it used to be the Bar Dandy). As you can see from the pictures, there is very nice wood paneling throughout the entire place. One thing you might not have noticed in the pictures is that some of the rooms even have a pole for your chica to put on a private display, although for that type of money I'd personally much rather she spent the time dancing on my pole. And, unlike all but the downstairs room at IDEM, the place is FULLY air-conditioned.

Overall, I was very impressed with the rooms when I visited there, what was it?, maybe 2 years ago, as are most guys I know that have been there. The problem was that most guys don't go to these places just for a nice room. They go for the chicas. And, unfortunately, the chicas they had there back then were not nearly as impressive. As a result, the original Pirates never really took off.

HOWEVER, it recently changed management yet again and initial signs are that things may have improved significantly. They say it has been completely remodeled, though I can't imagine much that they could have improved upon in that area. The website says that they now have private showers in all the rooms, which I don't recall their having when I was there and which you don't have at places like IDEM and NF. More importantly the chica pictures on the website certainly look much more promising than the ones I saw when I was there.

Apparently, they've also changed their rates. There is a one-time $10 membership fee, which kinda blows but it is half off that and 2nd drinks are free if you have a CRT card. The new rates are $60/hr ($100 for the "Captain's Quarters") which may seem on the high side when you compare it to ZB and NF. But this place is a night time place as much as a daytime place and it compares favorably to the usual rates at night time places like the the BM and SL (that Fantasy is so stuck on) or the new rates at IDEM (which is still only open until midnight) or the rates at the more reasonably priced higher end SJ nightclubs like Pantera Rosa and Kamur. Plus they have specials during the day that bring that rate down to $40 (Tuesday & Thursday Noon to 2 pm) which is actually less expensive than ZB and NF.

As for any "guy with a little $$$ and plenty of time on his hands" thinking he can steal a little action from the Blue Marlin but coming and going as the wind blows, it certainly has worked for Eddie at ZB even before he added his luxury suites. He has been a long term success story even without a "small hotel". So there goes that theory. And what if the Pirate Club does come and go (like Kamor or Casablanca/Tentaciones) because certain people are too closeminded to give it a try but prefer to limit themselves to the mercenary chicas at places like the BM and SL. That doesn't mean that places like this aren't worthwhile as long as they're around. I'll probably give this place another try when I'm in town next week and will report back my new impressions.

Prolijo

06-27-08, 01:05

Me and my friend will be visiting Costa Rica Aug 1 to 8 staying at Sportsmens Lodge. This will be my first trip to Costa Rica and I am thinking of renting a car.

Anyone know what is the parking situation at Sportsmens?I'm pretty sure they don't provide any parking at the SL. There are public lots a few blocks from their hotel, but I'm not sure how secure those lots would be to leave a car overnight. There are also other hotels which DO have parking. HOWEVER, I'm not sure why you're even thinking of renting a car. Driving around downtown SJ really sucks - bad traffic, rude drivers, lots of potholes, few street signs and lots of one way streets. Plus the insecurity of parking your car while you're not driving it. Taxis are readily available anywhere downtown and dirt cheap. The most a cab fare should cost you is maybe $2-3 bucks so it takes a LOT of cab rides to match what it would cost to rent a car for the day, certainly more than you're likely going to need to take. Most venues downtown are reasonably close together and it often makes as much sense to walk to get to them (at least during the day), saving you even more cabfare. About the only way, I personally could see renting a car is if you're heading OUT of San Jose (and not just for the day). If you do plan on taking day trips out of the city there are plenty of other ways to do it other than renting a car. For example, say you want to go w/w rafting or to La Paz Waterfall Park, the savings for just 2 people don't really offset what the rental car would cost you for that day. OTOH, if you want to go see one of the volcanos, you could do that on your own with a rental car and save the money that a tour would cost, but when you factor in the hassle factor of having the car delivered, dealing with traffic and parking (and navigation), it hardly seems worth it for just 1-2 days. But that is just my humble opinion.

Fantasy

06-27-08, 02:19

Yes I am. I go to San Jose when i want to be lazy, When I am in the mood to just drink a little and fuck alot. One of the last cities I would go to for GFE! The town is, for the most part, a shit hole, and I really don't get into fucking in a small room in a bar or casa too much. Some guys love it, I do not. That is why I give my opinion and you can have yours. Fantasy can decide what he is "stuck on", and Prolijo can do what he wants.
As far as me not knowing what i am talking about, i am calling it the way I see it, as I have since I have been on this Board. So i know exactly what I am talking about.
My opening comment was, "it looks pretty lame to me!"
I did not say that no one would enjoy themselves there.
Or keep out because the authorites would start tailing you.
Jackson has placed a feature on this site called the ignore feature. Just use it on my posts, you will not be the first and certainly not the last to do so.
And in closing, I will not rip you on your impressions or opinions, I will simply say, thank you for sharing your thoughts.

Prolijo

06-27-08, 04:16

Fantasy,
No where in your earlier post did you indicate you were merely indicating your personal tastes, rather you seemed to speaking in pretty absolute terms. You didn't say that Pirates was lame because it was not YOUR personal type of bar. You said it was lame because there were tons of places like it, that it was just a BM rip-off and that it was doomed to failure (all of which are factually wrong). In any event, I'm sorry if I seemed to be ripping on you personally. You certainly have your right to your opinion, just as I have my right to mine. And everyone certainly has the right to their own tastes and style of doing things.

If I was "ripping you" on anything, it was for certain facts that you've got mixed up, which suggest to me that you really don't have much idea what goes on beyond the BM or perhaps the SL. Your opening comment was that "it looks pretty lame to me!" My response was not that your opinion was wrong, in fact I said it might actually be lame. What I disputed was your basis for that opinion.

You said there were "tons of joints just like this in San Jose" when in point of fact there aren't. Now you said "The town is, for the most part, a shit hole". Again, I won't dispute your opinion, although I might counter that is all relative. SJ certainly isn't the nicest city in the world, but as far as neither are most cities in lesser developed countries where mongering is cheap. It kinda goes with the territory. And yes, like other such cities, it has more than its share of dives. However, Pirates is not one of those places that I'd put into that category and perhaps neither would you if you actually went there before casting your verdict.

You dismissed the owner of Pirates as just "A guy with a little $$$ and plenty of time on his hands thinks he can steal a little action from the Blue Marlin" and that it will only "work if you couple a small hotel with it" or otherwise it will "come and go as the wind blows." What you should have said was that it only works for YOU if you couple a small hotel with it. Again you certainly have a right to your personal preferences, but your remarks suggested that these places can't sustain themselves at all because YOU personally don't like doing it in their rooms. What about everybody else? Even you now admit that others have different approaches and that others might like doing it in such places and thus such places can thrive. Again, the simple facts refute your opinion. Sure some places come and go or at least shift in their level of popularity but many are still there and going strong, including IDEM, NF and ZB. ZB in particular is going stronger than ever and not because they added luxury suites. They added those suites as part of a wider expansion of offerings that resulted from their initial success as an MP. That is hardly dissappearing like the wind.

And your earlier comment about "stealing a little action from the Blue Marlin" is contradicted by your latest comments. First of all, I wasn't aware the BM "owned" that action or that competition was a bad thing. Secondly, you suggest now that the appeal of the BM is that it is any easy place for take-out, while places like Pirates are for "dining-in" which is not your bag, therefore it really is going after a different market or at least approaching that market in a wholly different way. Rather than looking at Pirates as some cheap knock-off, maybe you should look at it as an attempt to improve on the original (for others if not for you) or at least an attempt to offer something that the BM does not.

Fantasy

06-27-08, 05:27

Everyone here, except you I guess, knows that I am basically an asshole who calls it the way I see it, with no sugar coating. Some might call me an ass wipe, And I really don't argue these opinions of me because I think they are close to spot on, but my opinion is that Pirates is a "wanna be" that will not ever be another Zona Blue! San jose is a shit hole. A shit hole that I crawl into about four times a year for about four- five nights at a time. I guess you have a financial interest in the place, thats the only reason I can see for you spending so much time trying to change (correct) my opinion of it. Hey, at least we are getting coverage for the place!!

(Happy Travels)

Prolijo

06-27-08, 12:23

Dude, I would never call you an asshole (at least not yet based on anything you've just said). I can appreciate you're laying it all out there and saying it as you see it. I try to do the same thing and not always most diplomatically. So if that makes one an asshole, I guess I am one too.

Is Pirates a wannabe? It very well COULD be. However, there ARE other successful venues in SJ besides the HDR/BM and SL as you seem to maintain and Pirates COULD ALSO be one of them IF you (and others) decide to check them out rather than dismiss them sight unseen. Is SJ a shithole? Its certainly no garden spot but I've been to cities in places like Brazil, Colombia and all over Central America that are at least as bad or worse. And, like you suggested, if its really all that bad then why do you (and so may others) keep going back so often? As for the financial interest in Pirates, I wish...or maybe I don't, but I have absolutely no vested interest in the place. I only wished to give them a fair spot as a potential customer. You should note that, unlike you I've actually been there, though I did not stick around or partake, and my own assessment based on that earlier visit was far from all roses.

Fantasy

06-27-08, 13:55

It appears that you have worn out this phrase......"I'm sorry if I seemed to be ripping on you personally."

So as many have suggested to me via PM, I am terminating this conversation from my end.

MrPenis

06-27-08, 21:24

I called SM and they said that they do have parking available. I want to get a car since I plan driving to the beach and visiting sites outside of San Jose. Thanks for your input, I might have to have to rethink this.

I'm pretty sure they don't provide any parking at the SL. There are public lots a few blocks from their hotel, but I'm not sure how secure those lots would be to leave a car overnight. There are also other hotels which DO have parking. HOWEVER, I'm not sure why you're even thinking of renting a car. Driving around downtown SJ really sucks - bad traffic, rude drivers, lots of potholes, few street signs and lots of one way streets. Plus the insecurity of parking your car while you're not driving it. Taxis are readily available anywhere downtown and dirt cheap. The most a cab fare should cost you is maybe $2-3 bucks so it takes a LOT of cab rides to match what it would cost to rent a car for the day, certainly more than you're likely going to need to take. Most venues downtown are reasonably close together and it often makes as much sense to walk to get to them (at least during the day), saving you even more cabfare. About the only way, I personally could see renting a car is if you're heading OUT of San Jose (and not just for the day). If you do plan on taking day trips out of the city there are plenty of other ways to do it other than renting a car. For example, say you want to go w/w rafting or to La Paz Waterfall Park, the savings for just 2 people don't really offset what the rental car would cost you for that day. OTOH, if you want to go see one of the volcanos, you could do that on your own with a rental car and save the money that a tour would cost, but when you factor in the hassle factor of having the car delivered, dealing with traffic and parking (and navigation), it hardly seems worth it for just 1-2 days. But that is just my humble opinion.

Grinder62

06-28-08, 02:35

Me and my friend will be visiting Costa Rica Aug 1 to 8 staying at Sportsmens Lodge. This will be my first trip to Costa Rica and I am thinking of renting a car.

Anyone know what is the parking situation at Sportsmens?Do not bother to rent a car. Waste of time unless you are headed to the coast. Even then not a good idea. From the Sportsman you can walk during the day, but at night I suggest you take taxis. Please note that the taxis are relatively cheap in the grand scheme of things and hell you will never find anything if you are driving yourself. No street signs, numbers or addresses. Plus a good way to kill a car is to drive it San Jose; pot holes, bumps and agressive drivers.

Mr Jetsetter

06-28-08, 22:36

You learn something new every day. I just learned that San Jose is a shit hole you have to crawl into, one of the last places you should go to for GFE. This from a guy (a frequent visitor, amazingly enough) who appears to generally limit his San Jose mongering time to the Blue Marlin. Hey, everyone is entitled to their opinions, but they can be perhaps more diplomatically stated, without excessive reliance on exclamation points, on a board generally frequented by people who enjoy visiting San Jose and taking advantage of the myriad mongering opportunities this city has to offer.

Underwriter

06-28-08, 22:46

It may or may not be lame but not for the reasons you suggest.

You don't seem to know what you're talking about. There are hardly "tons of joints just like this in San Jose." The rooms there are MUCH nicer than any other place I've been to INCLUDING ZB, NF and Idem. And beyond those few places which cater to the gringo crowd (as this one does), the tico places can be quite seedy and dirty. The original owners really sunk a lot of money into the place (it used to be the Bar Dandy). As you can see from the pictures, there is very nice wood paneling throughout the entire place. One thing you might not have noticed in the pictures is that some of the rooms even have a pole for your chica to put on a private display, although for that type of money I'd personally much rather she spent the time dancing on my pole. And, unlike all but the downstairs room at IDEM, the place is FULLY air-conditioned.

Overall, I was very impressed with the rooms when I visited there, what was it?, maybe 2 years ago, as are most guys I know that have been there. The problem was that most guys don't go to these places just for a nice room. They go for the chicas. And, unfortunately, the chicas they had there back then were not nearly as impressive. As a result, the original Pirates never really took off.

HOWEVER, it recently changed management yet again and initial signs are that things may have improved significantly. They say it has been completely remodeled, though I can't imagine much that they could have improved upon in that area. The website says that they now have private showers in all the rooms, which I don't recall their having when I was there and which you don't have at places like IDEM and NF. More importantly the chica pictures on the website certainly look much more promising than the ones I saw when I was there.

Apparently, they've also changed their rates. There is a one-time $10 membership fee, which kinda blows but it is half off that and 2nd drinks are free if you have a CRT card. The new rates are $60/hr ($100 for the "Captain's Quarters") which may seem on the high side when you compare it to ZB and NF. But this place is a night time place as much as a daytime place and it compares favorably to the usual rates at night time places like the the BM and SL (that Fantasy is so stuck on) or the new rates at IDEM (which is still only open until midnight) or the rates at the more reasonably priced higher end SJ nightclubs like Pantera Rosa and Kamur. Plus they have specials during the day that bring that rate down to $40 (Tuesday & Thursday Noon to 2 pm) which is actually less expensive than ZB and NF.

As for any "guy with a little $$$ and plenty of time on his hands" thinking he can steal a little action from the Blue Marlin but coming and going as the wind blows, it certainly has worked for Eddie at ZB even before he added his luxury suites. He has been a long term success story even without a "small hotel". So there goes that theory. And what if the Pirate Club does come and go (like Kamor or Casablanca/Tentaciones) because certain people are too closeminded to give it a try but prefer to limit themselves to the mercenary chicas at places like the BM and SL. That doesn't mean that places like this aren't worthwhile as long as they're around. I'll probably give this place another try when I'm in town next week and will report back my new impressions.Thanks for the report. I enjoy seeing all of San Jose. The seedy to places like this. I am going to check it out when i go back in August.

UW

Professor 1

06-29-08, 02:58

Me and my friend will be visiting Costa Rica Aug 1 to 8 staying at Sportsmens Lodge. This will be my first trip to Costa Rica and I am thinking of renting a car.

If you plan to remain within the city, then you need not rent a car. You will find a taxi everywhere at all times.

Putaman

06-29-08, 03:48

Do not bother to rent a car. Waste of time unless you are headed to the coast. Even then not a good idea. From the Sportsman you can walk during the day, but at night I suggest you take taxis. Please note that the taxis are relatively cheap in the grand scheme of things and hell you will never find anything if you are driving yourself. No street signs, numbers or addresses. Plus a good way to kill a car is to drive it San Jose; pot holes, bumps and agressive drivers.
While at Sportsmens use their driver Jimmy. A good man that will not steer you in the wrong direction. He is employed/endorsed by the owner Bill and I have taken overnight trips with him and friends to the west coast. A nice van with DVD and he is armed if needed. The banditos will not mess with anything that says Sportsmes Lodge. Tell Bill hello from the Caymans..

BabyHuey

06-29-08, 04:09

Mr.Penis,

Since it seems you are set on renting a car, first let me wish you luck. Second, I will say that the guys that I have met at Sportsmen's that were driving just park on the street across from the entrance. There is a 24hr security guard out there that checks all the girls, and ticos, that come in. It's probably not even necessary, but I'm sure a few thousand Colones will insure that your car is left alone.

Sammon

06-29-08, 05:48

I have been to SJ total of 5 times. I have always rented a car.
Here are the Advantages,
1. I do not use the car for driving around San Jose unless it is a bit far. I stay at Presidente where they have parking. To go to DR it is a short walk.

2. I have made lots of trips away from SJ like arenal and all the vocanoes, jungle tour sites, Jaco, Puerto Limon etc. Many a times with the girl I picked up at DR or met at other places. I have even gone to girls homes for a day trip, But kept my mouth shut about where I met her. It was a very good experience. Some have really decent houses and land. The whole family is very hospitable.

3. I do get bored just staying in SJ all the time.

4. Apart from the city traffic in SJ, the countryside is easy to drive and generally safe.

5. The girls generally like being driven around to see the sites because they do not travel much.

Disadvantages.

1. Get a bumper to bumper insurance. Do not rely on your credit card coverage.
2. If you do get into a accident there will be problems i hear but persoanally i have never gotten into one. So i do not have experience with this.
3. I got stopped at Police check points couple of times. They only check the papers and let me go. Only problem one time was I did not have my Passport, so I had to explain to the senior officer my Passport info is there on the rental contract. No problem.

MrPenis

07-02-08, 03:44

Guys,

Thanks for your input, I reconsidered, will not be renting a car.

Btranquilo

07-03-08, 10:39

Hi. I am a newbie and look forward to coming to CR for my third trip. I am looking to contact a girl named Michelle (or maybe Michell). She was working at IDEMS but the last time I was there the manager said she no longer works there. I believe this is the same girl that Dodger Bulldog wrote about in a trip he made to IDEMS in July of last year. She is a nice girl and I would like to spend some time with her if possible this trip; I was not aware of this website but hopefully someone on it can help me out. I believe she is from the Limon area.

The photo posted here is from the set that Dodger Bulldog posted last year.

Thanks for any assistance.

MrPenis

07-03-08, 19:05

Any of you monger done an ATV tour?

If you have please let me know how it was.

Smokers Rule

07-08-08, 03:06

If you might be in San Jose Aug. 9 to 17, let me know. I may be able to get you the Courtyard Mariott or maybe even airfare at 1/2 price because I have a voucher I need to use. PM me if you're interested...

Dr Travel Man

07-09-08, 20:33

Member #1943

07-10-08, 05:39

Did an ATV tour out of San Manuel, was pretty awesome. Went through a forest, through a river and took a dip at a waterfall. I would recommend the one I took, but most of Costa Rica is probably the same.

Non

Any of you monger done an ATV tour?

If you have please let me know how it was.

Member #2964

07-11-08, 03:50

Any contact info for this tour? Sound s like a great day trip.
"Did an ATV tour out of San Manuel, was pretty awesome. Went through a forest, through a river and took a dip at a waterfall. I would recommend the one I took, but most of Costa Rica is probably the same.

Non"

Prolijo

07-11-08, 12:56

I was curious about that tour too, but not so much about the contact info. Where in CR is San Manuel? Did he really mean San Jose or Manuel Antonio or somewhere else?

The biggest ATV tour specialist that I know of in the SJ area is Paraiso Adventure Tours www.atvtourscostarica.com. Their website mentions breathtaking views of both the Central Valley and the Pacific but no waterfalls. Their rates have also gone WAY up since I first heard of them and they now charge $115 for the full day tour that leaves at 10AM and $70 for the half day tour that leaves at noon. I guess you could blame high fuel prices but how much gas can theose things really go through in just a few hours vs. those sorts of tour prices. Anyway, I know lots of guys who have used this company and rave about their tours.

The big ATV outfitter around Manuel Antonio is probably Fourtrax Adventure ATV Tours www.fourtraxadventure.com. They now also offer tours out of Jaco and Fortuna (Arenal). Their tours run $85-95 for 3-3.5 hours depending on which location you're doing it out of (the Arenal one id the slightly cheaper shorter one). And their website does mention visits to waterfalls, however I haven't heard of anyone personally who has actually used them unless this is the one that 1943 is talking about.

There are also similar ATV tours all over CR (as 1943 suggested) leaving from various locations such as Monterverde, Corcovado etc. but those are places the average monger is less apt to be visiting, except of course for Jaco. There is yet another tour company out of Jaco that again I don't know about personally but which you might want to check out that has ATV trips that include waterfall visits: www.ricaventura.com including a 4 hour one for $100 and a couple of shorter 2 hour ones for $65 each.

Mangera

07-11-08, 14:48

I will be in San Jose in a couple of weeks and was thinking about taking one of these tours. I would like to go to one that does not require waking up at 6 am and traveling for an hour and a half to two hours just to get there. Then the same shit on the way back in the afternoon. So if anyone knows of a good one thats a reasonable time or distance away from SJ, please let inform the forum. Thanks!

Member #1943

07-11-08, 15:23

Sorry, my mistake. Manuel Antonio. The town beside Quepos. Nice little town. Sorry, no contact info. Me and my buddy just went one of those tour booth between w bars.

Any contact info for this tour? Sound s like a great day trip.
"Did an ATV tour out of San Manuel, was pretty awesome. Went through a forest, through a river and took a dip at a waterfall. I would recommend the one I took, but most of Costa Rica is probably the same.

Non"

MrPenis

07-11-08, 16:46

From what I was able to find, the one to go to is http://www.atvtourscostarica.com/ They pick you up at your hotel and the fll day tour is from 10 am to 5 pm with lunch included. According to them the site is about 45 minutes from San Jose.

MrVee

07-11-08, 17:49

I might suggest that these types of discussion threads move over to the Travel Plans & Announcements or General Information thread.

In other news, Eduardo from Zona Blue has been e-mailing me and I am tempted to spend a whole night there ($195 not incl. taxes), but the main issue I have with the idea is committing. (You know how us guys are about commitment!) Their website is still under construction and, as I told Eduardo, I have no personal experience on which to base my decision, nor are there any pictures of girls, etc.
The Forum has lots of articles on ZB, and there are other internet sites where you can get reports as well. However, at the end of the day, it's "iffy" -- hit or miss. Some guys loved ZB, others "so-so". The other concern I have is that I'm not the spry young rooster I used to be - not sure there's any real point to spending that kind of $$$ (probably will be close to $400 when all is said and done) when all I will be able to generate is one, maybe two shots. Especially after having been in Jaco the night before. :-)

Speaking of which, I'm not even sure that I'll come *back* to SJO from Jaco ... I could stay in Jaco an extra night and just skip SJO altogether on this go-round. Another commitment dilemma - LOL. I haven't spent a night in Jaco before, so I don't know if it's going to be a situation where I'm GLAD to be getting out of there the next day, or whether I'll wish that I had stayed another night. Unfortunately, with hotel reservations handled the way they are, I think it's risky to "wing it" and just figure it out as I go, and risky to commit my credit card for a 2-night stay in Jaco if on day 2 I decide I really would rather go to SJO.

Not looking for any responses here (even me...this isn't a "real report" ... probably should put it in another thread myself -- sorry guys! I'll make up for it next month after I do my duties!)

Cheers.

Member #2041

07-12-08, 05:39

Personally, I do not think that Zona Blue is cost-effective as a hotel unless you can manage 3 or 4 pops or more in a night. I don't think that their quality will be an issue - IMHO, it's among the best in CR. If you stay in Sportsman's Lodge or some other hotel in the area, You can always visit ZB during the day, and if quality doesn't meet your desires, just walk out.

Smokers Rule

07-12-08, 05:49

Agreed, assuming you're doing onesies.

If you're staying at the ZB and doing chicks at $20 a pop, you do at least two at once.

That's the benefit of ZB IMO...I'm cheap and would probably not pay $100-$200+ for a twosome outside of ZB.

Plus I personally don't like doing chicks in MP booths. The spacious ZB rooms are well worth it for me.

Personally, I do not think that Zona Blue is cost-effective as a hotel unless you can manage 3 or 4 pops or more in a night. I don't think that their quality will be an issue - IMHO, it's among the best in CR. If you stay in Sportsman's Lodge or some other hotel in the area, You can always visit ZB during the day, and if quality doesn't meet your desires, just walk out.

Tom27

07-14-08, 02:03

My buddies and I ( 3of us) booked the ATV tour from the DR and we had a BLAST !! By far the best thing we ever did. We spent about 3 to 4 hours and went up the side of a mountain. I highly recommend you do this.

I will be in San Jose in a couple of weeks and was thinking about taking one of these tours. I would like to go to one that does not require waking up at 6 am and traveling for an hour and a half to two hours just to get there. Then the same shit on the way back in the afternoon. So if anyone knows of a good one thats a reasonable time or distance away from SJ, please let inform the forum. Thanks!

Mee Wee

07-17-08, 07:07

Arrived 10am Saturday morning. Met wingman at DR. Had a beer to mellow out. Went straight to ZB after that. Feet somehow guided me there with thoughts of Jessica. Picked up card. Didn't find her. Found two others, Kristi and? With cute little schoolgirl outfit. Had twosome to break in card. Talked to girls and they treated me like a pornstar boyfriend. They were all over me and all over each other. Three way kissing and lots of grabbing to start off even before we were ready. Lots of DFK. Finally found our way to shower. Had both of them clean me while I cleaned/played with them. I Luv tongue piercings. Ahhh. Moved over back to bed. We got the bigger room. I guess when you get a double they need more space. Girls tried to massage me but they couldn't keep hands off each other or my private parts. It just turned into one massive mix of DFK and BBBJs. To misquote, "If you have the means, I highly recommend it. " Multiple pos. One servicing, one on top. One behind me taking care of boys while I worked it. Etc, Etc, Etc. Finished with DATY and BBBJ and CIM. Ahhh. Girls both came hard and extremely wet. Had to tip them after that excellent job. This is the way to start your first day in San Jose. More to come.

Mee Wee

07-17-08, 07:17

Went back to DR after not finding Jessica and after my Wingman finished up. Went to Machu Pichu, San Pedro, highly recommend it. Ceviche and Lomo Saltado and Imperial. Went back to DR. Wingman went and took a nap while I picked up an afternoon delight back to ZB. Found Jessica. I just love her. Tight little girl. She just rocks my world as she steps on my back and massages me to heaven. BBBJ, mutiple pos. Damn, had to give her a tip. We were supposed to leave on Sunday to go fishing but my Wingman decided to watch EuroCup instead and leave on Monday. Went to pharmacy to look for prescriptions. Went back to DR and waited for my buddy to return. He came back around late. We headed over to Key Largo and watched my buddy get wild with a girl. I picked up #4 for the night and was in bed by midnight since I had set up a session for 10ish in the morning. Did not want to miss it. #4 was a thin, young girl with a crazy demeanor. She saw I had a camera and was posing like she was trying out or something. Anyway, CBJ, multiple pos, end mish. She wanted to stay the night but I tossed her out. No tip, I finally came back to my senses. End of Day 1. More to come.

Mangera

07-17-08, 23:49

I Know San Jose has some cool weather during the evenning hurs this time of year, but how is the day time weather? Hot? Humid? Dry? Thanks!

World Travel 69

07-18-08, 01:09

Same as El Salvador. Which I want to go to.
Basically there is two Seasons in Central America. Wet and Dry. My book says rainy season is from May to October. But the rain is mostly in the evenings.

http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/businesstraveler/tenday/SJO:9

I Know San Jose has some cool weather during the evenning hurs this time of year, but how is the day time weather? Hot? Humid? Dry? Thanks!

Toadtamer2

07-18-08, 01:46

It is Winter time in CR. It has been really wet lately.

80's during the day with sporatic showers.

Mangera

07-18-08, 15:40

Fla Fun

07-19-08, 00:25

I Know San Jose has some cool weather during the evenning hurs this time of year, but how is the day time weather? Hot? Humid? Dry? Thanks!During the days the temperature is usually low 80's, not that hot. Somedays upper 70's during the day. The night are cool low 60's. Most times I sleep with the windows open and wear a light jacket when I go out during the evenings.

Mee Wee

07-22-08, 06:40

Woke up around 6 am, went down and ate breakfast and took in sights. Went back up and napped until around 11am. My morning delight showed up looking as hot as ever. She treated me well. Took some photos. She had a different demeanor. Treated me even more like a novio if that's possible. She came really hard and wet all over the sheets. Impressive. Damn, had to give a tip. My wingman called in the middle of the action and said the game had already started. Damn! He had a chica from last night stay over but kicked her out in the morning. I missed the entire first half and didn't make my first hurried showing until well into the second half. Went down, watched the rest of the match with cutie sitting and cuddling. Had a couple of beers to recuperate. Sent cutie packing knowing I had lots more to go. Walked around the mall with wingman. Normally we would have been at Oasis at least twice. This was a much mellower trip. My wingman insisted on going to NY and a few others. We finally headed back to DR. He picked one up and had an afternoon session. He left and went upstairs. Now this is where it gets a bit freaky. I started having shots with my all time favorite bartender, Fernanda. All I can say is there were a few Ticas and me and a bunch of fotos to prove what happened. Anyway, I should've stayed in the room. I come down and start having more shots and beers. My wingman rejoins as we head to Key Largo.

I'm in a turn and burn mode and start lining up shots of tequila and dancing with a little tiny girl. We hit it off despite my state. My buddy goes up with another chica and I keep on dancing. Flash, I feel like guys are trying to pickpocket me as we exit the cab. Next thing I know I'm at Castro dancing with a goup of locals which are the ticas friends. Flash, I feel like some more guys are trying to pickpocket me. Next thing I know I'm at some fried chicken joint eating with her and her girlfriends. Next thing I know I'm in a taxi cab ride from hell with my tiny friend to her house to pick up her things cause she thinks she's going to the beach with me. Flash, I'm back in my room safe and sound with my girl and she's giving me a BBBJ. By now she really has to work at it but oh well. Somehow being the trooper that she is till CIM. Flash, I wake up with her next to me. Luckily I had locked everything away in safe and she was an honest one (lucky). This ends Day 2. Whew! More to come.

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Mee Wee

07-23-08, 07:17

Day 3. Monday. Wake up with tiny girl from KL. She kisses me and it's on. BBBJ, multiple pos, finish mish. We get up and shower. I decide not to put on clothes while packing and she decides I have #2 leche for her. BBBJ, multiple pos again. She wants to go to the beach with us. I negotiate hard knowing I'm really not a take sand to the beach kind of guy. She says I'm a good guy, handsome, speak two languages fluently, blah, blah, blah. Heard it all before. I break her own on cost to minimal $. 5 and then give her the skinny. She treats me like novio but if I want another girl or threesome then no jealousy. She agrees. I also tell her wingman has final say once he sees her without beer goggles and just to make sure I'm not just thinking with the smaller head.

Breakfast arrives and she serves me ala Marc Anthony. She leaves all bags and purse in room as we're going to pick up some items. She doesn't want to make a bad impression so hardly asks for anything. I pay for a cell phone charger $3 and for shorts for her at the beach $3. That's it. Awesome. We come back and pick up wingman. I tell her to wait for us while we pick up rental car. Wingman and I go and pick up car and stop by Oasis on way back by KFC. Can't believe it's Day 3 and only my first trip to Oasis. It's packed and only one ugly girl. We bolt and I decide to show wingman NF. He loves it as both he and I pick cuties. Mine initially gives me the "is he a Tico? " but warms up as soon as she meets my wingman. This cuties warms up and gives me BBBJ, multiple pos CG, RCG, mish, doggy and CG final. She lies next to me, cuddle and we both take a quick nap. Left her a minimal tip but really enjoyed #3 for today.

We had back to DR knowing this other one has been waiting about 3 hours in the meantime. We pick her up and tell her we just stopped to get a massage. Truth is the best policy. She's still thrilled. We had arranged for a fishing charter and the Copacabana in Jaco. I drive us over and we check in, have a beer and head towards dinner and then the Beatle Bar without much ado. AWESOME place! There are super hotties in there. It's low season and a Monday. Does it get any better? My wingman is sitting there enjoying the sights. I set mine on a drop dead gorgeous 10 Colombian. I send my "novia" over to talk to her and soften her up. She comes over and we all have another drink and settle on the amount. I cut her down a little bit but she knows I really want her. I got with her and my "novia" to the room. I don't want a threesome since I want to enjoy the Colombiana all to myself. Next thing I know, she starts posing for fotos and having a good ol' time. BBBJ, multiple pos, CG #4 finish. I searched and searched but did not find an ounce of fat anywhere on her body. Awesome. I take a little over an hour and we head back to Beatle Bar. I'm done hunting and ready for some dancing. My wingman picks up a good looking 9 and we all head back to Copacabana. We decide to wrap it up early for fishing the next morning. Whew! Day 3 complete. More to come.

Chitown Gino

07-27-08, 20:40

Police raid brothels that operate in San José

By the A.M. Costa Rica staff

The Policía Municipal and other agencies swooped down on a number of brothels in San José Friday afternoon and began the process of closing them.

The raids took place in the middle of the work day, and women and some customers had to leave in the full glare of television and newspaper cameras.

Raiders shut down Musas on Avenida 7 at Calle 9 and then moved to the well-known New Fantasy on Avenida 9 between calles 5 and 7. Some were headed to Zona Blue three blocks to the west.

After they had ordered the employees from the various buildings, police locked the doors and put stickers showing that the businesses were closed.

An immigration official said that two foreign women were found working at New Fantasy. One was a Colombian and the other was a Nicaraguan. Both were legal, he said because they had Costa Rican cédulas.

The women left the various businesses with their heads covered, but there were no arrests. One woman wore an arctic jacket with the hood fastened tightly around her face.
Fuerza Pública officers participated in the raids. One officer said the day still was young and that many other brothels that had been operating openly in the city would be targeted.

A.M. Costa Rica had raised the issue of brothels operating in the city using pension licenses three weeks ago. La Nación, the Spanish-language newspaper, published a major article Sunday, and Channel 7 Teletica was featuring the issue through the week. The television station was concerned because some of the brothels were located in historic buildings in Barrio Amón.

At New Fantasy one officer left the premises with an arm load of loose-leaf binders that appeared to hold the operating ledgers of the business.

Unlike some of the other businesses, New Fantasy made no pretense of what transpired within its walls. Other firms advertise rooms for rent to continue the fiction that they are a legitimate small hotel or pension. There are perhaps 100 brothels in the metropolitan area and they are a key element in sex tourism.

New Fantasy, for example, was mainly patronized by North Americans and has been included on various nightlife tours for tourists.

BabyHuey

07-27-08, 22:38

Not to worry. They were all closed due to liscensingand safety violations. The are expected to re-open soon. According to Eddie Zona Blue will have a Grand Re-opening Party over Labor Day wweekend. It will somewhat coincide with the CRT Anniversary party. He is going to use the down time to get the new bar up to code, as well as, finish the new rooms.

Toadtamer2

07-28-08, 17:27

Locals that live there say it is a big thing.

The raids are being promoted by pressure by media attention.

More is to come shortly.

Green_Thumb

07-28-08, 22:48

To the fellow veterans:

A crew of 7 of us will be staying at Hotel Del Rey in about 3 weeks for a bachelor party that will define all bachelor parties!!! Only problem is, if the fiance or any of the crew's wives does a google search of Hotel Del Rey, it basically takes them to various links of reports that dishes the dirt in great detail describing what this place is all about - not good if people plan on staying married when we get back.

Is there a hotel with a similar name or location that is near the Del Rey that is family friendly we could give them? Anything with a positive google search would work.

Thanks a bunch,

GT

Max Mojo

07-29-08, 17:07

Gt, Try the Holiday Inn Aurora. It is not "Monger Friendly" and would be good cover. Also, the Presidente. Presidente is about 40/60 mongers to tourists and has a slight reputation. Question; What if one of the spouse tries getting in touch while your in SJO?

Toadtamer2

07-29-08, 17:17

You are opening up a can of worms for yourselves.

If you want to stay married don't go!

BabyHuey

07-30-08, 04:18

Tell them you are staying at the Balmoral. The last four letters in it's name explains the hotel. Bal"moral" is very nice, close to the action casinos I'm sure, in your case (nudge, nudge, say no more), and very un-chica friendly.

By the way, I'm glad you guys will be gone by the time I get there for Labor Day. No offense, but it sounds like you guys are going to spend way too much money.

Looking For Eden

07-30-08, 04:31

So is now not a good time to go with all the brothels closing? I was thinking about going next week but now I am not sure. I would just be staying in San Jose. Thanks for the replies.

Mr Jetsetter

07-30-08, 09:57

Yes, my recent week-long July trip was my tenth in the last 42 months. Excessive indeed, considering I am a poor sap with a modest income and 2 very muscular, well-developed credit cards. At this rate, I am due to file for bankruptcy sometime in 2009.

Anyway, I digress. I spent the week at my usual haunt, the Sportsmens Lodge, in my favorite room, Las Palmas. Just my luck, I landed directly in the middle of a construction zone, as they were putting the finishing touches (supposedly) on the new, new wing. I'm talking hammers and buzz saws from 8am to 8pm, no exaggeration. Really pissed me off, actually, and I actually checked out mid trip, but found my new haunt even worse in a different sort of way, and came running back to the SL with my tail between my legs 24 hours later. Construction noise tends to follow me around whenever I travel. Last year on my trip to Peru, they worked on the elevator right next to my 10th floor suite at the Residencial Las Americas in Miraflores for 3 consecutive days. The booming bass notes coming from a Pizza Alley disco across the street would keep you up to 4am or so, and just as you got to sleep, the elevator work would commence. Later on during this trip, I spent an entire week at a high-end Amazon wilderness lodge a few hours by boat from Iquitos, and, sure enough, they were adding some new cabins to the complex. Constant hammering every day of my stay.

Anyway, I digress! I did have a great, great time with the ladies. The SL was a little thin in this regard (always just a simple matter of timing), but I did enjoy multiple sessions with Carolina, including a double with her and a foxy flaca named Helen. Carolina is somewhat shy and reserved, but I find her to be very sexy and a good performer. She has had some incredibly tough luck in her young life, and I admire the way she seems to be dealing with it. I also sessioned with her good friend Luna, formerly of Bonita's. A real sweetie who might offer her backdoor if she likes you.

I also had a couple of hall-of-fame sessions at ZB, both two-girl, and my first 3-girl session, which didn't work out so well. The three-girl stint was with Christina, Pamela and Karen, and it just didn't work out. They spent the first 15 minutes in a three-way lezbo chain, Karen eating out Pamela and Christina eating out Karen. They barely paid attention to poor old me and Little Jetsetter began to lose attention until Pamela's oral skills came to the rescue while she was still sitting on Karen's face, letting me take a few photos of her endeavors. Anyway, they soon realized that a horny guy was actually in the room with them, and they laid me down on the bed and began to take turns blowing me. I was really starting to have a great time and was about to have them take turns taking some pictures of the action when the goddamn lights went out! Pamela started screaming "Casper, Casper!" and all hell broke loose. So much for the photos! Anyway, I finally managed to get them back on task and they resumed blowing me, and I finally popped in Karen's mouth while dining on her juices.

My other two ZB sessions were fabulous, one with squeaky-voiced but sexy-as-hell Jessica and Monica (very, very pretty); the other with Karen and a lady who was totally forgettable but knew how to take good photos.
Jessica was not shy whatsoever about approaching me, and I soon negotiated BBBJ and anal, and I was just about to head to the room with her when I noticed Monica, a raven-haired beauty who immediately rocked my world. I invited her to join us, with the proviso that BBBJs were okay with her as well. Anyway, a great session, but Jessica didn't want to engage in anal with Monica present, and she requested that I ask Monica to leave when I was ready for this service. I was hesitant to do this since we were all having such a great time, but when Monica left on her own to use the loo, Jessica quickly jumped up and locked the door, and Little Jetsetter made his eager way into her mysterious 3rd hole for a couple of minutes. When Monica returned to a locked door, I just didn't have the heart to deny her return, so this brief adventure was over. Both these gals were fabulous in every way, and they even let me take a few photos with them when I promised not to post them.

The session with Karen and Jane Doe was memorable for a number of reasons. Karen was her usual fabulous self, and she allowed her companion to take some really nice photos of me boinking her, XXX all the way. I also took some nice shots of her blowing me. I've sessioned with Karen on five separate occasions, and I wish it were 50. The woman just amazes me, and I'm beginning to think she is truly my CR ATF.

Sorry, but I'm not finished! This trip also included 3 trips to IDEM, and, DAMN, what a GREAT move on my part! My first session was with Jorleny, to resample her legendary oral skills, and I wasn't disappointed. She has gained some weight, however, and isn't nearly as attractive as she was a couple of years ago. My next two IDEM sessions were with Jennifer, an incredibly sexy 19-year-old lass who just floored me! I hate to even tell you horndogs about her. She is slender and beautiful and looks almost like she has some Greek blood in her. An absolute treasure of a find, even despite the fact that her BJs are translated. I found out too late that her sister works there as well! Although she isn't as HOT as Jennifer.

I will close this rant by sneaking in the fact that this cheap bastard did spring for a session with one of the over-priced Latina Network gals. Let the flames begin! The photos of Dayana intrigued me, so I arranged a 1-hour session with her and everything went smoothly. Alexandra returned my emails and supplied me with the phone number of their local contact, who was friendly and professional. Dayana is not quite as slender as her photos suggest, but she is one hell of an attractive lady, and I had a great time with her. Not at all enthusiastic when it came to the BBBJ, which was provided, but she was great in every other way. I was somewhat exhausted when I saw her, and, initially, Little Jetsetter didn't seem to want to fully cooperate, despite how totally attractive she was, so I was "forced" to go down on her for 30 minutes or so, caressing her full and marvelous breasts while doing so. Thankfully, Little Jetsetter did rise to the challenge eventually, ensuring a very happy ending. I still have vivid memories of this lovely young lady sitting on my face, and I'd like to think I provided her with a good time as well. I love DATY, and I love being around ladies who at least seem to enjoy it. If money isn't an issue, I highly recommend Dayana.

Oh well, enough for now. This TR has stirred some memories back here in Sex Prison, so I think I will retire now and beat off. Not sure when I will be back to CR for trip #11, as I have a trip to Southeast Asia scheduled for this November. But, money be damned, I shall return!

Professor 1

07-30-08, 18:07

To the fellow veterans:

Is there a hotel with a similar name or location that is near the Del Rey that is family friendly we could give them? Anything with a positive google search would work.

I suggest the Hotel Presidente. Of course, you can mention that you are renting an apartment in the 'burbs. There exists several condos in La Uruca, for example.

Green_Thumb

07-30-08, 19:00

I appreciate all of your inputs for our bachelor party. I like Huey's idea about the Balmoral, instead I'm gonna say it so it sounds like, Balmorey....that way they won't find anything about it and it is similar to Del Rey...he he he. I don't think they would do the research, but just trying to be on the safe side. I will also have the bachelor and other concerned call their better halfs at least once a day, that way they shouldn't have a reason to track us down. Christ, we're only gonne be there for a Thurs - Sun. (3rd week Aug btw)

As far as my love life. I am single, occasional girlfriend here and there and a seasoned mongering pro; U.S. stateside and multiple trips to Tijuana & Bangkok. If I ever do get married, and that's a huge IF, it's probably gonna be to a bi-sexual stripper based on her physical attributes, so you can see how shallow I am. And I hope to God there will be lots of sharing of me. But hey, one life, live it how you choose right?

The only married concern for the trip is the bachelor and his married brother-in-law, who happens to be one of my best friends and my boss. He wanted me get something set up that "we just can't do in the states". I knew their ladies would go ballistic if they heard TJ or Bangkok, so I thought this as a perfect opp to cross another mongering destination off the list. I can say without a doubt that neither of them will do anything to jeapordize their relationships, they just truly love living the hedonism life through their single friends eyes.

And yes, there will be lots of money spent. But that will be on golfing, zip-lining...(can you guys think of anything else we should do? seriously, need some ideas) etc...and of course the chicas. But like I said, I've done this many times before and ain't no senorita getting more than $50-$75 out of me, and to be on the upper end of that scale, she better look like Shakira or J-Lo.

I look forward to posting our trip. Thanks again,

GT

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Mangera

07-30-08, 21:55

Police raid brothels that operate in San José

By the A.M. Costa Rica staff
A few friends of mine ended up going to a place owned by the owners of New Fantasy called gatitos or gatitas. Essentially they booted all of the girls from that place and replaced them with the ones from New Fantasy until they reslove their issues with the closing of the NF. I do not know where it is located. Yet my buddies told me it is in a shitty barrio.

It is a shit hole and the girls were not happy about the location. Small crapy rooms. Also, they had a special going on for two girls for $65 us.

As for Zona Blue, all I can say is that I saw Pamela hanging out by the lobby of the Presidente hotel the day before yesterday around 1 pm. Laters!

Nixonbd

07-30-08, 23:02

[QUOTE=Mangera]A crew of 7 of us will be staying at Hotel Del Rey in about 3 weeks for a bachelor party that will define all bachelor parties!!! Only problem is, if the fiance or any of the crew's wives does a google search of Hotel Del Rey, it basically takes them to various links of reports that dishes the dirt in great detail describing what this place is all about - not good if people plan on staying married when we get back.
QUOTE]

Good Luck with that one, boys! You don't think one of the seven women isn't savy enough to figure what this trip is all about? Hope you have enough money left over for divorce court!

BabyHuey

07-31-08, 03:57

Only 4 out of at least 100 MP's were closed. 5 actually, but we don't count the 5th one because nobody ever goes there. All the girls from New Fantasy are now at their other location Las Gatitas. Yes LG is in a rough barrio, definately want to take a cab there if alone. All of the ZB girls except Pamela ended up at Sportsman's Lodge. They are helping to lower the pricing structure at SL and, from what I hear, pissing all of the SL regulars off. There are many other MP's that are worth checking out, remember, you don't have to stay, but, you may want to.

Del Rey and Blue Marlin are 24/7, and probably have a few new lower priced chicas working there during the day.

I say go for it. I am definately not going to cancel my trip from August 29-Sept. 6.

Zona Blue should be re-opened in a few weeks, and New Fantasy should (I hear) be opened even sooner than that. I can't speak for Musas, 747, or the Dungeon, but don't care for those places anyway.

This happens all the time, all across the world. Somebody makes a stink to the news, the news makes a public stink, the police have to do something so they make a big showing of shutting down a few places. Everything will be back to business as normal soon. From what I hear on the other site, guys are still having the best trips ever right now.

World Travel 69

07-31-08, 05:44

Please let us know. If it is too early, then we think it is not open yet.
Print the List and write down what you find out?
Thanks a Million.

Only 4 out of at least 100 MP's were closed. 5 actually, but we don't count the 5th one because nobody ever goes there. All the girls from New Fantasy are now at their other location Las Gatitas. Yes LG is in a rough barrio, definately want to take a cab there if alone. All of the ZB girls except Pamela ended up at Sportsman's Lodge. They are helping to lower the pricing structure at SL and, from what I hear, pissing all of the SL regulars off. There are many other MP's that are worth checking out, remember, you don't have to stay, but, you may want to.

Del Rey and Blue Marlin are 24/7, and probably have a few new lower priced chicas working there during the day.

I say go for it. I am definately not going to cancel my trip from August 29-Sept. 6.

Zona Blue should be re-opened in a few weeks, and New Fantasy should (I hear) be opened even sooner than that. I can't speak for Musas, 747, or the Dungeon, but don't care for those places anyway.

This happens all the time, all across the world. Somebody makes a stink to the news, the news makes a public stink, the police have to do something so they make a big showing of shutting down a few places. Everything will be back to business as normal soon. From what I hear on the other site, guys are still having the best trips ever right now.

Smokers Rule

07-31-08, 05:46

WT69...when will you be in Costa Rica? I'll be there in a couple of weeks and will update you.

Please let us know. If it is too early, then we think it is not open yet.
Print the List and write down what you find out?
Thanks a Million.

World Travel 69

07-31-08, 05:57

Too many places to go, so little time and not much money. I was there last year. Seems so long ago. I was thinking about it, El Salvador mostly, until I checked the Weather Channel.
Thunder Showers every night.
Working on Colombia in October and some how squeeze in Buenos Aires.

WT69...when will you be in Costa Rica? I'll be there in a couple of weeks and will update you.

Smokers Rule

07-31-08, 06:26

I don't think you were in BA last time I was there (March). BA has gone to crap since Excedra closed IMO. Costa is not the place to budget monger these days. Hope we meet again.

Looking For Eden

07-31-08, 06:32

I don't think you were in BA last time I was there (March). BA has gone to crap since Excedra closed IMO. Costa is not the place to budget monger these days. Hope we meet again.

Why is Costa Rica not the place to budget monger these days? For Americans it is still the cheapest place to get to for airfare.

Meat Loaf

07-31-08, 13:08

Costa Rica is the Place to Monger. (1) Girls from all over the world work there; (2) no hassels from the police when chasing hookers since it's legal; (3) friendly American atmosphere; (4) quality infrastructure and housing; (5) people with whom you can converse; and (6) other activities to partake in between banging sluts!

The Whole 9

Smokers Rule

07-31-08, 14:53

WT69 bangs 3+ chicks a day, and many of the MPs are currently closed. 3 sportsmens or HDR chicks = $180-$300. When I met WT69, he was hitting up the 60-80 peso privados in Buenos Aires.

But point taken about the airfare. It is cheap to get there.

World Travel 69

07-31-08, 16:04

I was there March, April and the first part of May.
Come on 3 chicas would kill me, sometimes two though. Your right 60p to 80p at 3p to US$1. There are still some 40p places.
As for the flight, if you stay longer then the price does not matter.
Yes, I do miss Exedra and now the l'Alliance is closed what will we do?

I don't think you were in BA last time I was there (March). BA has gone to crap since Excedra closed IMO. Costa is not the place to budget monger these days. Hope we meet again.

Scape

07-31-08, 18:18

With minimal but hopefully sufficient research, I've decided to head to SJ. I've been reading the forum, especially reports of distinction, and finding invaluable advice. So, thanks!

I still have 3 days to study the forum to complete my itinerary and 24 hours before I can PM some of you veterans.

Since I've planned this trip last minute, I'm still waiting for confirmation far a suite at SL.

I'm wondering if its wise to try and reserve a room at Del Rey and El Pres. To cover myself or wait 'til I hit ground and bank on a veteran monger for advice and peace of mind concerning un domicilio.

To be honest, the thread concerning the raid spooked me a bit as I cannot afford (as most cannot) to find myself photographed or on video while ho-ing. I'm coming anyway, but how concerned should I be? I want to be safe, but I cannot miss the action.

My spanish is strong. I'm a great wingman and have busted my cherry in Sosua 3x, Philippines 3x, and Amsterdam 1 time. I don't have a lock on the game but I know, I'm no blocker.

Who's there now/next week (8/6-12) that can link up?

MrPenis

08-01-08, 00:31

Scape,

I will be staying at SL Aug 1-8, first trip to Costa Rica. Send me a PM when you are there.

Chitown Gino

08-01-08, 02:35

Just call the SL every one speaks English they will let you know right away if they have a room toll free 1800 291-2798.

BabyHuey

08-01-08, 04:44

Scape,

With this late notice, I doubt you will be able to get a room at SL, DR, or Prez. I would try Castillo or Amistad. They are both very close to SL and rather inexpensive. I suggest joining CRT for more information, as well as getting a VIP car that will pay for itself in a very short time in San Jose. The only problem is, it is probably too late to even get your VIP card what with Zona Blue being closed right now.

Good luck on the room. But the three hotels you mentioned get booked months in advance.

I would not be concerned with the news. Another report has 3 of 4 of the MP's on Calle 6 being closed today. The news was not there for that raid.

WT69,

I don't have first hand knowlege, and will not until Labor Day, but most of the guys on another site feel this is a temporary thing and, once the show is over and the news moves on to something else, that everything will be back to normal. Zona Blue even plans to be re-opened by Labor Day weekend.

Chewbacca

08-01-08, 13:51

The scene at Habanos is pretty good. I arrived in Panama for the first time last week. I went to Habanos and I felt like I was in Medellin, almost every girl was from there, and a few from Cali or Pereira.

Prices are steep, 150-$250 per hour. But $100 can be negotiated. A colleague of mine got 4 hours for $100!

Lots of girls at Veneto too, I pulled out a girl and carried her to my place at LAS Vegas for $60 for an hour, but it was late (3am) so I guess she figured better a little than nothing. I will be here til the 13th for work.

If anyone else is here pm me I speak perfect Spanish, a few of you guys might remember the old Chewbacca as the resident jamaican in Bogota, from another monger site. Here I am now rockin' Panama.

Chewbacca

08-01-08, 13:58

If you like to party and meet some regular girls People Ultra lounge (calle Uruguay, beside Greenhouse) has a nice upscale crowd, good music and dancing. I was there last night met a few nice girls, 2 of them dropped me back at my hotel in their SUV and I'm having drinks after work with one today.

Also tonight I'm checking out Kraze-950 (calle Uruguay, beside Gauchos) with one of our Panamanian Managers, I hear also great to meet regular babes.

I will check out La mayor, maybe tomorrow.

Chitown Gino

08-01-08, 23:23

Give the SL a try there are a lot of cancelations right now I book a room for the same time frame yesterday since I lost my room at ZB. I will be arriving on the 5th and have been SJO many times.

Member #2964

08-02-08, 16:21

Lot of girls from the regular MP'S closed by the authorites for "repairs" are driving down the prices at El Ray, SL and NY Bar.

Its great to see the colombians quiver.

This $100.00 a pop to play is for the brain dead.

And the cheaper girls are more fun and open.

Fantasy

08-03-08, 04:04

Lancer520

08-05-08, 18:25

So I'm headed down to CR Labor Day weekend and I'm wondering what the status is on Zona blue and the other massage parlors? Hopefully they will reopen by then. Anyone on the ground in san Jose heard anything?

Rainman3

08-05-08, 18:26

Why is Costa Rica not the place to budget monger these days? For Americans it is still the cheapest place to get to for airfare.Airfare is only one part of overall trip cost. There are plenty of places only a little further south such as Colombia where your dollar goes much, much further. Im traveling back to CR for Labor Day but have been spending the last 1.5 years visiting in various cities in Colombia. As soon as I touch ground in Mde, Cali, Bogota or Ctg all things are cheaper. But yes the airfare is less expensive.

Rainman3

Smokers Rule

08-06-08, 00:11

ZB will reopen on labor day, according to Eddie. I do not know about the others, but many are still closed. Still plenty of lower-end places open.

So I'm headed down to CR Labor Day weekend and I'm wondering what the status is on Zona blue and the other massage parlors? Hopefully they will reopen by then. Anyone on the ground in san Jose heard anything?

Don Tonto

08-07-08, 09:15

ZB will reopen on labor day, according to Eddie. I do not know about the others, but many are still closed. Still plenty of lower-end places open.Thanks for the info, Smokers Rule, I was in San Jose two years ago and have plans to return again later this year. Hopefully, everything will be open again by then.

Smokers Rule

08-07-08, 15:02

Thanks for the info, Smokers Rule, I was in San Jose two years ago and have plans to return again later this year. Hopefully, everything will be open again by then.

From what I read, it's just the police flexing their muscles. They didn't even close the MPs down for pimping. They got them on code violations relating to handicap access.

Member #2964

08-08-08, 22:15

police units raid 13 more locations for prostitution
by the a.m. costa rica staff

the security ministry initiated a sweep of brothels thursday. all 13 ended up being closed by municipal officials because the businesses lacked a license or had an expired license, officials said.

some were decidedly low-budget, catering mainly to working class costa ricans. but some, including the the pirate club at avenida 10 between calles 12 and 14, were known in the expat community. also raided were the venerable idem and a firm called eros on calle 9 between avenidas 8 and 10, according to a reader who saw police there.

idem, almost a tourist attraction, has been in business as a so-called pension for at least 30 years.

officials did not supply a list of those places raided, but they did provide photos, including some of the pirate club. that location rents rooms for $30 to $50 an hour, according to its web site. it also says it offers "therapeutic massages for both men & women."

immigration agents detained 19 women and a man who were believed to be in the country illegally. they are being investigated. they are colombians and nicaraguans.

the lead agency in the sweep was the ministry's dirección de investigaciones especializadas. agents were accompanied by fuerza pública officers, the policía especial de migración and members of the policía municipal. july 25 it was

ministerio de gobernación, policía
y seguridad pública photo

fuerza pública and municipal police await the results of an inspection of the pirate club.

the municipal police that headed raids on four brothels in barrio amón.

most of the places raided thursday styled themselves as massage parlors, according to the ministerio gobernación, policía y seguridad pública. some advertised themselves as a pension, a latin version of a rooming house.

officials also said that some businesses were dispensing alcohol without a permit. the raids took place all over the capital city.

agents said they were attracted to some of the businesses by their suggestive signs.

Professor 1

08-09-08, 03:40

From what I read, it's just the police flexing their muscles. They didn't even close the MPs down for pimping. They got them on code violations relating to handicap access.

Code violations are far easier to prove, and tend to subject the state to fewer challenges. It is often cheaper to fix the code violation than hire a lawyer to fight. Governments know this.

Lancer520

08-09-08, 06:28

So now i'm really questioning whether or not to head down to Cost Rica for Labor Day weekend. Next thing you know, they'll be shutting down the Del Ray. These politicians are really trying to ruin my holiday weekend. Somebody bribe these idiots already....

Member #2964

08-09-08, 13:35

As the professor writes. code violations. i think ZB was for no Handi cap access. LOL as though anyone with a wheelchair can travel on any sidewalk in SJ. 6th st, ZB, NF and I bet Idem will be up and running by labor day.

Thank the CR pineapple for my little CR book of #'s. A couple of the girls I spoke with have just moved up to the el Ray, SL, NY Bar and are driving the colombians and other imported pro's crazy with there $30,$40 & $50 P4P.

It could not be a better time to VK in SJ then Labor Day.

I'll be there.

Member #2964

08-09-08, 13:50

Click here for the video news report that motivated the municipal action

http://insidecostarica.com/dailynews/2008/july/27/prostibulos-amon-24.wmv
and this;http://insidecostarica.com/dailynews/2008/july/27/prostibolos25.wmv

or if they don't work ck out; http://insidecostarica.com/dailynews/2008/july/27/nac01.htm

for a better link.

BabyHuey

08-09-08, 15:15

My only hope it, if the girls from the MP's are still working the bars by Labor Day (this would be if the MPs have not re-opened by then), that the high priced girls in Del Rey, Key Largo and Sportsmans don't talk them into raising their prices.

I can oonly imagine the irls all getting together for a meeting. All the cien girls at Del Rey would tell the MP girls they have to start charging more. Next thing you know, I hit Del Rey on August 29, and now all the MP girls are asking for cien.

I don't think that will happen, and I expect several of the MP's to be re-opened by then, but it would suck if the P girls realize they can charge more in their new venue.

It would be nice to see the Gardens Bar at the Castillo full of ladies looking for a place to work. Then I wouldn't even have to walk to Sportsmans.

Don Papi

08-09-08, 15:43

IDEM opened yesterday and will maintain regular hours.

Member #2964

08-09-08, 19:37

Following the show of force by the Ministerio de Seguridad Pública and the Municipalidad de San José in closing down massage parlours in the downtown San José on Thursday, many like IDEM (picture above) were open for business as usual by Friday afternoon. The police action was based on lack of or expired licenses. However, operators say that the municipality is on a "witch hunt".

Underwriter

08-10-08, 00:54

Green_Thumb,

Take a day, go to the beach and go Sailfishing. Jaco Beach has great fishing and just by chance has a bar that rivals Blue Marlin. Beetle Bar.

Have fun

Mr Jetsetter

08-10-08, 02:53

Dan D Dick

08-11-08, 16:19

Golly gee, I'm so worried about all these MP closures that I booked a return trip to CR next month. Don't get me wrong, these closures are disappointing and a source of concern, and I really hope Zona Blue and other MPs are open during my trip, but tons of mongering opportunities still exist and I'm looking forward to exploring this somewhat altered landscape.

There's still more than 30 MPs in the downtown area alone. The day of the raids I asked a few cops about them - bottom line - the Gringo MPs were targeted. The others are still doing fine.

/dddick

Mr Jetsetter

08-11-08, 20:54

Dan

The raids have extended to more tico-oriented MPs as well outside of Barrio Amon, according to CRT members in the know. Nonetheless, I think this is a short-term issue and I'm not that concerned. You are indeed correct that numerous MPs are still open. BTW, I have a comprehensive MP map with dozens of entries. But even if every one of them were shut down, I could still have a great time in San Jose. You have the Del Rey, Key Largo, the Sportsmens Lodge, and a number of strip clubs with on-site rooms. Also, after ten previous trips to CR, I know a number of ladies who are just a phone call away.

Viper10

08-14-08, 04:42

Hey guys, quick question. Does HDR have free wireless in the rooms or on their property? Just wanted to know if I should bring a laptop. Thanks.

Viper10

Horntoad

08-14-08, 07:28

Not sure about the wireless because I never stayed there but they have two or three internet terminals downstairs that anybody can use for free. Most hotels that I have been to have free internet terminals somewhere in the lobby that anyone can use.

Hey guys, quick question. Does HDR have free wireless in the rooms or on their property? Just wanted to know if I should bring a laptop. Thanks.

Viper10

Grinder62

08-15-08, 00:55

Hey guys, quick question. Does HDR have free wireless in the rooms or on their property? Just wanted to know if I should bring a laptop. Thanks.

Viper10HDR does have wireless available in their rooms.

I heard recently that they are not charging for it anymore.

BabyHuey

08-15-08, 03:00

I have heard that it can require a good deal of patience if you have to wait for any chicas to hunt and peck through 50 RFM emails.

Wdeville

08-16-08, 01:02

Hdr does have Ethernet LAN ports in the rooms. Just ask for an ethernet cable at the front desk, and they'll hook you up. Make your own wireless network with something like the Apple Airport Express.

Prolijo

08-16-08, 14:04

I have heard that it can require a good deal of patience if you have to wait for any chicas to hunt and peck through 50 RFM emails.I assume you're mainly kidding about that. In actuality, those 2 workstations MAY sometimes BOTH be tied up, but it is just as often being used by other mongers as it is by the chicas. BTW, there is supposed to be a 15 minute time limit but I don't think that is ever really enforced, at least as long as no one else is waiting to get on one. Any way, even if you do have to wait it is rarely for more than just a few minutes.

There are for more serious issues about using public terminals such as those in the HDR lobby.

1) You never know who might be looking over your shoulder. At the very least, use some common sense. That situation would probably not be the best time to start checking out the naked HDR chica photos that are posted on this forum.

2) You can never really be sure whether some dickhead had loaded some keylogger program on that open workstation you're borrowing and will come back after you to harvest your passwords and such (ie it may not be the safest way to log on to your internet banking website to check on your account). And even if there isn't a keylogger, there are other ways for them to get you. For example, if you use a public terminal, you should always remember to clear your cached browsing history, temp files, cookies (and passwords if you were stupid enough to check off any of those boxes at login). You' might be surprised how many times I've logged on to the internet at one of those type places and seen all the places the guys that were on before me had been.

3) They aren't always configured the way you're used to. It is not that difficult to switch between keyboard language layouts, but the first time you go for an @ symbol when trying to send an e-mail and get something else or try to enter basic punctuation to no avail, it can really throw you for a loop. Even with public workstations that are configured for gringos, you'll still be missing all your bookmarks and other personal settings.

4) Some guys like to bring their own laptops because they have it loaded with special programs or files such as their favorite games, music even videos plus perhaps special applications that they need for work they plan to do while down there (plus any data files that go with it). Some of that can be overcome by bringing the necessary files on CD/DVD or even USB drive, but you're not likely going to sit leisurely playing a game or watching a video for an hour or two on the public terminals in the lobby.

Personally, for me, these are relatively minor inconveniences. I can do my on-line banking when I get home and I usually have better things to do while in CR then sitting in my hotel room playing computer games. And, to the extent having that sort of capability might be a nice bonus, that all gets trumped by the added risks of having my laptop lost, stolen or damaged plus having an extra item to lug around (btw, laptops don't always fit in hotel room safes, so find out whether the HDR's do and bring a good laptop cable lock if they don't). However, I also realize that some guys don't always have much of a choice because they have to keep up with stuff at work (even while on a vacation) or they simply have different priorities. As Nixonbd has said - to each their own.

HoleRanger

08-19-08, 22:43

Well, been in CR a few days relaxing after leaving Rio. A step down but still there is a charm here. The daytime action is hit or miss. Last night I picked up a this tica, nice looking but lacking skills in the sack. Her starting rate was $100 for an hour. After she noticed my wandering eyes the price stayed the same but she agreed to two hours. Then three hours and lastly allnight if I paid her cab fare to return from my apt. Also. Not much to report, I kicked her out after 3 hours. Gave her a coca cola and a smile.

The tension has seemed to ease a bit with some of the MP's opening back up after meeting the required handicap requirements etc.

I will sample a few soon. Enjoy!

Professor 1

08-20-08, 15:04

Her starting rate was $100 for an hour. After she noticed my wandering eyes the price stayed the same but she agreed to two hours. Then three hours and lastly allnight if I paid her cab fare to return from my apt.I noticed that you said her "starting rate." I remember the time when a cutie looked at me and quoted cien. I almost spit my soda, and started laughing so all could hear. She quickly added that since I was a nice guy, she would not charge such a rate.

HoleRanger

08-23-08, 16:58

Well, went by NF, the mood of the girls was less than happy. Arrived at apprx. 2p. M. , about 15 girls were working, most were in the average range. I looked long and hard and finally asked the receptionist for a referral. After she made three choices, I asked what made them special? Well. It was a gamble but the charge of 22k for an hour ain't bad. My last visit a few months ago ran 18k for an hour.

I selected Celeste (has a tatoo of a Tazmanian Devil on her chest). She said she has worked at NF one month and was previously at Eden? Anyway, so. So. In the sack and not worth a repeat.

For the price, worth a visit to see what is available.

P.S. I think I'am going through"PRD Syndrome"(Post Rio Depression).

HoleRanger

08-24-08, 03:33

well, the plan was to hit kama sutra, mami and sapphires today but the rain changes things. stopped by kama sutra first, i was greeted by an attractive but stocky woman that sat after greeting me. i enter and ask the price, 16k for one hour the receptionist behind the counter replied, actually i wouldn't mind doing her but she was not on the menu. well, at least not today.

six ladies were sitting in the lounge area and all were in the average range, the lady that greeted me continued to give good eye contact which is a plus. the rest were watching television and talking. i sipped on my coca cola for about five minutes and finally asked for the lady that greeted me. her name was carolina, sure she was there to make some $ but her eyes were saying she needed to have an orgasm today.

normally i travel light but today i had both my pocket rocket and the magic wand, what the hecht i'll be heading back to the us in two days. prior to the session i asked carolina if she perormed bbbj, she replied yes. next i asked her if she liked vibrators, again the answer was yes but she did not have one. up to the room we go, i paid my 16k, she exited then returned with my change in about 5 minutes.

she started off with a very nice massage followed by some bbbj. i then asked her if she liked a small or large vibrator. she wanted to see both. first i show her the pr, she liked it. then i showed her the magic wand, she fell back in the bed in shock. the mw it is. i start in low gear and within 2 minutes she has her first orgasm. quickly i shift to second gear and in about another 3 minutes she has orgasm number two while she was panting and moaning.

after about 20 minutes there is a knock at the door. hmmm. i'am thinking. my time can't be up yet? it was one of her co-workers asking to borrow something but was really curious to see why she was making so much noise. carolina passed her somthing, closed the door and we got back to business. the co-worker must have been in a session when i arrived because i would have been all over her.

after about 30 minutes of vibrator foreplay and her sucking me, she was ready for the real mccoy. she reached for a condom (i always bring my own) she put it on and assumed the cowgirl positon. not bad at all, she was catching some good hang time between strokes next a little missionary, then some doggie. lastly i put her in what i call the 'scissors" i asked if she was ready (lista) she said yes, next i began to pound her and she just moaned and screamed. after about 10 minutes of this, she just collapsed and said gracias. gracias.

i blew my load on her back. hmmm. not bad at all. she staggered out the room to shower and then returned. i gave her a 2k tip and some victoria's secret lipstick. she just loved it. before i could ask for her contact info, she was already writing down her number. probalby won't have a chance to do her again this trip but maybe next time.

all in all. a better ride than what i experienced at "new fantasy" and at a cheaper price. you just never know where a good time will turn up!

kama sutra. worth a peek when you visit the paseo colon area.

editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Junky11

08-26-08, 23:08

I've heard Zona Blue changed their name and their open. Anybody got the scoop on this?

Prolijo

08-27-08, 04:33

Member #2666

08-27-08, 04:48

I couldn't tell you if Little Havana has opened yet. The original planned official reopening date was supposed to be this Friday. Unoffcially it was supposed to be open tonight but I can not confirm if it was. More info can be probably be found at their "new" website www.hotellittlehavana.com/

I imagine you'll jump all over me for this ...buy why do you report on something you admitidly know nothing about..

seems odd to me..

PS Little Havana opened today

Mr Jetsetter

08-27-08, 08:20

Prolijo

Thanks for supplying the useful link to the Little Havana website.

Prolijo

08-27-08, 13:04

I imagine you'll jump all over me for this ...buy why do you report on something you admitidly know nothing about..

seems odd to me..You're absolutely right. I''ll jump BACK all over you for that because I'm fed up with your constant bullshit (other members, this is not an overreaction to just one post but a redult of a history of crap from this dickwad). Who was first getting on whom here? Was I directly addressing you or saying anything negative in my post? This is exactly the type of "griping" that I've been talking about and might soon drive me from this board. Some may not like my writing style. That is certainly their right and really basically just a matter of taste. HOWEVER, NO ONE can fairly say I don't always try to provide useful and well-informed responses.

In point of fact, I plainly DO know something about what I reported. So I admit nothing like what you charge. I provided the new name, which we can all see is plainly correct by simply following the new weblink that I provided which also plainly works. How is that not knowing anything? I also provided the day it was originally PLANNED to officially open, another fact. Naturally, in CR, such plans usually need to be taken with a shaker full of salt, so I indicated uncertainty about the exact date. Excuuussse me for carefully qualifying my remarks. And, fourthly, I also provided their UNOFFICIAL opening date which was SUPPOSED to be last night, again just their word but semi-confirmable by simply checking out the weblink that I provided. Obviously, like the vast majority of members reading this, I wasn't fortunate enough to be able to go there last night and actually check it out myself. Did you actually go there so that you can confirm its opening or are you also just reporting what you've heard? How does what you wrote in your little postscript add anything to what I already posted? How is it really any better than what you try to tear me down for? If you do know for a fact that it opened last night, why couldn't you have just ADDED that to the information I already provided as the MAIN point of your post and left out the baseless, uncalled for and mean spirited commentary that made up the bulk of your post. But I suppose that is all that one could expect from a complete dickhead such as you.

I suggest you re-read my original post and reevaluate how anyone without some sort of chip on their shoulder could really find anything odd about what I wrote or suggest it was completely useless as you seem to be doing. The only thing that is completely useless here (though certainly not odd, because I expect nothing less from you) is YOUR OWN post. But, I suppose, my own response here could also be called useless, since I DOUBT it will change your attitude towards me even after reading it and I KNOW I''ll still think you're as much of complete pendejo as I did before writing it.

Member #2666

08-27-08, 15:45

You're absolutely right. I''ll jump BACK all over you for that because I'm fed up with your constant bullshit (other members, this is not an overreaction to just one post but a redult of a history of crap from this dickwad). Who was first getting on whom here? Was I directly addressing you or saying anything negative in my post? This is exactly the type of "griping" that I've been talking about and might soon drive me from this board. Some may not like my writing style. That is certainly their right and really basically just a matter of taste. HOWEVER, NO ONE can fairly say I don't always try to provide useful and well-informed responses.

In point of fact, I plainly DO know something about what I reported. So I admit nothing like what you charge. I provided the new name, which we can all see is plainly correct by simply following the new weblink that I provided which also plainly works. How is that not knowing anything? I also provided the day it was originally PLANNED to officially open, another fact. Naturally, in CR, such plans usually need to be taken with a shaker full of salt, so I indicated uncertainty about the exact date. Excuuussse me for carefully qualifying my remarks. And, fourthly, I also provided their UNOFFICIAL opening date which was SUPPOSED to be last night, again just their word but semi-confirmable by simply checking out the weblink that I provided. Obviously, like the vast majority of members reading this, I wasn't fortunate enough to be able to go there last night and actually check it out myself. Did you actually go there so that you can confirm its opening or are you also just reporting what you've heard? How does what you wrote in your little postscript add anything to what I already posted? How is it really any better than what you try to tear me down for? If you do know for a fact that it opened last night, why couldn't you have just ADDED that to the information I already provided as the MAIN point of your post and left out the baseless, uncalled for and mean spirited commentary that made up the bulk of your post. But I suppose that is all that one could expect from a complete dickhead such as you.

I suggest you re-read my original post and reevaluate how anyone without some sort of chip on their shoulder could really find anything odd about what I wrote or suggest it was completely useless as you seem to be doing. The only thing that is completely useless here (though certainly not odd, because I expect nothing less from you) is YOUR OWN post. But, I suppose, my own response here could also be called useless, since I DOUBT it will change your attitude towards me even after reading it and I KNOW I''ll still think you're as much of complete pendejo as I did before writing it.

Prolijo, I appologize profusely...I didn't realize you were so thin skinned and these few barbs were affecting you so much

ChiliMike

08-27-08, 18:29

Yankees vs red sox! Part 20. The best 2 posters on this site! Since I know both of you, it's a shame you can't get along as I know if you ever met face to face. You would be friends. Alot of the reasons that I have enjoyed my trips to san jose was due to meeting both of you. So with that being said "let it go" and keep posting.

Nixonbd

08-27-08, 21:46

You're my new hero!

Prolijo

08-28-08, 00:05

2666,

That apology was just dripping with sincerity...NOT.

My supposedly "thin-skinned" response was not a result of one isolated post or a "few barbs" as you suggest. If it were then it would indeed be thin-skinned. Rather my post was a response towards an ongoing history of your apparent antagonism towards me going back over MANY posts in the past. What prompted your latest post? What was so offensive to you about what I wrote in my reply to Junky, that you felt you had to post those "barbs". If I'M the thin-skinned one here, then apparently I'm NOT the only one since you clearly harbor some sort of grudge against me and can't refrain from tossing those "few barbs" (unprovoked) whenever you can. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

Why don't you grow up and just get over whatever bug is up your ass, or if you can't, why don't you try to do what I've been trying to do, which is ignore you and focus on just making POSITIVE contributions to the board? I think your pictures are a bunch of shit but do I bother to call you on each one or just keep it to myself? Did I START this latest exchange? Or any of the more recent eruptions? You don't see ME initiating these little flame wars which have grown extremely tedious and serves NO ONE any good. I'll make you a deal, if you can somehow manage to refrain from throwing your "few little barbs" then I won't feel compelled to respond to any of them. For my part, I'll continue to refrain from starting anything with you, as I have been. If we both do that then we each should be able to just ignore the other.

Okay, we BOTH think the other is an asshole. Everyone gets it. So there is no need to subject everyone to this any more.

BTW, Nixonbd, the feeling is completely mutual. No, clearly not that 2666 is my hero, but rather that I think you're a dickhead too. That is what you were trying to say, wasn't it? You're another grudge holder, and all just because over a month ago I didn't happen to agree with your assessment of the Balmoral. Boohoo. Do you really want to talk about being thinskinned? You also need to get over it. I've also NEVER made any disparaging personal remarks towards you UNTIL you began with me.

Finally, thanks to all the members who have PM'ed me expressing their support (but who understandably don't want to get publicly embroiled in this mess).

Member #2666

08-28-08, 01:02

I'll take your deal

Prolijo

08-28-08, 01:48

GREAT!! That's really big of you (no sarcasm intended). Maybe someday we could even have a kumbaya moment and bury the hatchet (figuratively speaking) over a few Imperials. Until that probably distant time, let's just move on. Now, can we all start talking about Costa Rica Ticas again? After all, that's really what we're all here for.

BTW, one more thing before we do, I'd also like to offer my sincere apologies to all the innocent bystanders to this little episode.

MJG Dogs

08-28-08, 03:23

member 2666 vs Prolijo

Live Boxing from the Key largo

A Del rey production brought to you by Imperial, Durex, and by Tony lama Boots

also sponsored by Zona Blue

Special celebrity judges:

Oscar the deported american street urchin

Rasta man Glen- another street urchin

And of course Don Gordo

Big John the referee

But hey both fighters will have nice shiny shoes, thanks in part to the shoeshine boy that wears the suit, that hangs outside the presidente.

How about if the board nominates three ring-girls. I cannot see two gringos lasting more than 3 rounds

Fantasy

08-28-08, 03:25

Finally, thanks to all the members who have PM'ed me expressing their support (but who understandably don't want to get publicly embroiled in this mess).

here is a list of those members:

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Prolijo

08-28-08, 11:51

Fantasy,
I'm not going to take the bait this time. You can believe whatever you want to believe. Those members know who they are.

2666 and I have both agreed to move on. Why can't you? Do you really prefer to witness these fights? I'm sure all the more mature members would prefer to read something else.

Fantasy

08-28-08, 14:52

Maybe you do know everything!

Paddy

08-29-08, 02:57

I'm going to be making my first foray into Costa Rica in a few weeks and I'm trying to genuinely learn something here. I thought that learning and asssisting each other in terms of getting laid was what the ISG was all about.

Instead, this forum is full of childish ongoing banter. Are you "beyond macho" guys about done banging your dicks on your keyboards??? Can we actually address queries about whether or not Zona Blue is open again?

Paddy from Prague

Prolijo

08-29-08, 05:11

Paddy,

I'm done. 2666 is done. Apparently Fantasy isn't.

I thought I had actually addressed that query fairly thoroughly 2 full days ago (and insulted for it). That was on Tuesday, the very day it was supposed to open. I'm really sorry that I wasn't able to confirm it personally for you and everyone else by rushing out there that same day. Clearly, I don't pretend to know everything, as some seem to suggest. I guess I shouldn't even bother to try to provide the useful information that I do know any more (or share my opinions) if this is the response. But, in all the time since then, no one else here seems to have had anything more positive to add.

Frankly, ISG may be great for Prague but, if you really want to learn about CR rather than just read snide remarks directed at someone for just trying to share what they know, then you're really in the wrong forum. The same topic about ZB's reopening can be found at the CRT site. Sure, that thread has its share of "childish ongoing banter" too, but at least it is all friendly. And, in that thread, SEVERAL CRT members reported actually visiting Little Havana (formerly Zona Blue) since it reopened. So it is CONFIRMED that they have reopened.

MJG Dogs

08-29-08, 05:58

It looks like there is peace. Now you two go have a good time, keep hitting on those $ 100 per hour pieces of tail in San jose, just don't wear a Miami Hurricanes jersey and be a loud drunk in the pink palace.

Good to see you guys have chilled though

Johnny Sax

08-30-08, 04:10

Seems that the whole harrassment of massage parlors was a political move on the part of the new woman vice president. Figures.

How ridiculous! Tellling the massage parlors they need handicapped access ... while the streets of San Jose are full of holes, 2 feet high curbs, open drain holes, vendors blocking sidewalks, etc. etc. etc...

This whole thing was clearly a "shakedown" and/or a first assault of a series of assaults that could possibly lead to a "no sex business" new law in Costa Rica... Let's hope it does not come to that!

Anyway I'm heading down sometime in Sept. and I want to know if the above mentioned thread title mp's are open and what their prices are and how are the selections?

I did hear that ZB (now Little Havana Hotel) no longer offers a CRT discount. But there is talk of a negotiation...

I had a feeling when they started "classing up the joint" at ZB, it might be the beginning of the end of the glory days of ZB... Time will tell. But I am skeptical that things will continue to be as great as they once were there. I hope I'm wrong...

As for NF, every time I've checked it out during the last 2 years (3-4 times), it has been full of very bored looking girls with that "Please don't choose me!" look on their faces, and that's through the mirrored glass, so it isn't like they didn't want to be with me in particular. I remember a time when it was better than ZB, and had some really outstanding girls. So how is NF these days?

Also, someone in another forum spoke of La Gatita. Can anyone tell me about that place?

I have not been around here much lately so forgive me if there was "just a thread on this" or whatever. I'd appreciate any feedback to prepare me for my next trip down there. This will be about my 25th trip down to Costa Rica... but there is always new territory to discover and new things to experience!

Lancer520

08-30-08, 04:24

Zona blue is alive and kicking. went to check it out this morning around 10:30 and spoke with Eddie. The new second level bar looks great. There were only three girls there for the morning shift but i guess it's gonna take some time to get the girls back. Sunday they are having a two for one drink party. Another crew was starting to arrive around 11:30 but I had to pick up my wingman at the airport so I couldn't participate. I'll be back to San Jose Wed. with another report. Tonight it's Jaco and the Beatle Bar...

Prolijo

08-30-08, 18:29

Now that's what I call FRESH info! Thanks guys!
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Hopefully, they'll bring back the CRT discount soon because, IMHO (YMMV), their regular $55 price is simply ridiculous (approaching what you can get for take-out at the HDR). I'm sure I'll catch a lot of flack for this from the diehard ZB fans (and I know there are many of you), but (again, just IMHO) I think, while the ZB might have been a pretty good place when it first opened, and despite all the many infrastructure improvements, it has been going down ever since (higher prices, declining quality as the original stars moved on, declining quality of service in general and rising demands/expectations for propinas).
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Johnny,
While you're definitely correct that the CR Mongers public enemy #1 is VP Laura Chinchilla, this latest move came from the San Jose CITY government, not her. The lady VP is probably still indirectly involved, just not in the way you suggest. The truth is that she and San Jose Mayor Johnny Araya, who directed the raids, are actually bitter political rivals who are competing to be President Oscar Arias's successor. VP Chinchilla railing against prostitution does get a lot of attraction among many elements of CR voters and Mayor Johnny probably had to do SOME thing, even if it was just token, to innoculate himself against charges that he wasn't doing anything about it.

Incidently, I've been very impressed with everything else that Mayor Johnny has been doing in SJ. Okay, all those vacas are a bit hokey, but the new Avenida 4 pedestrian walkway is looking really good (and free of cracks, holes and dropoffs), and he's also been making efforts (some more effective than others) to deal with traffic congestion, crime, street peddlers. There is even talk about putting in street signs all over SJ. Talk about hell freezing over.

I DON'T KNOW for certain, but I strongly suspect that this is just a phase among many other similar ones that have happened several times in the past and will probably happen again from time to time in the future. Unless that stuck-up feminist b*tch somehow manages to beat the mayor for the Presidency (hopefully unlikely), then I suspect things will pretty much go back to what they've been like once he's elected and we'll all look back on the events of recent weeks as a small momentary price to pay to help get "our guy" elected.

Anyway, that's my personal take on the situation. I hope I'm correct, but I certainly could be wrong (its also been known to happen from time to time).
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As for NF, my take is very similar to JohnnySax's. The girls there always look very bored, but much the same thing can probably said about most of the girls at most of the other MP's in CR. In fact, despite my earlier negative comments about ZB, that is one of the real positive things about that place. Perhaps thanks to the bar environment that they have, the girls there usually (though still not always) at least look like they're having a good time hanging out and are up for a session. Personally, I still prefer NF, but that is because I mainly just see a regular there and she always seems very glad to see me and ready to play.
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Re: Gatitas, I've never actually been there myself so I don't know what I could add to what you could have read on that other forum, but here are the basics:

Location: Calle 7 between Avenida 12 and 14 (thats about 6 and a half blocks south of the Presidente on the right (west) side of the street

Hours: 10-10 M-F (not sure of its Saturday hours but it is closed on Sundays)

Price: Again not sure, but I recall reading $20 for a half hour placing it more in the Gringo MP price range than the Tico MP that it really is.

Quality: Again not sure (obviously since I haven't been there), but I've heard that the quality went up over recent weeks as it became an alternate place of employment for ZB and NF girls. In fact, I think I read somewhere that it is actually owned by the same people that own NF. Before that, and probably once again as those places reopen, the place had also been jokingly referred to as "Las Gorditas". I'll leave it to others how to interpret that or whether or not it is fair.

Norman Stormin

08-31-08, 02:06

Just returned from 4 weeks in CR. First and last weeks in San Jose, two weeks in the provence of Limon. Arrived just after some of the brothels were shut down. I had a wingman this trip and was willing to be a bit more adventurous than normal.

In January, I stumbled into a bar on 4th Avenue between Central Park and Merced Park. I had a beer but felt a little uncomfortable simply because everyone was falling down drunk. Not menacing, just annoying. Thought it best if I came again with backup. They were still working on converting 4th to a pedestrian street.

Now it's finished and business is flourishing. I thought for sure this place would be gone. Suprise, it's still there in all of it's disgusting glory. Double shot of guaro 500, Imperial 600, full service one hour sex 5,000. The rooms are on the 3rd floor for 1,500. Granted, some of the girls were past their prime, but there were several who would rank above the blue marlin low ends.

It's a 3 story building on the south side of 4th Avenue between Calle 8 and 10. There is a small counter take out kitchen streetside, big barroom in back. There is an Imperial sign on the 2nd floor saying Restaurant El Porteno and the 3rd floor window is painted Pension mi Casa.

Visited four times. Excellent service each time. And found two gems. A young green eyed Columbian and a tall blue eyed blond from Vancouver (an obvious druggie on the lamb). She could have easily commanded $200 a night at the Del Rey. Go figure?

Junky11

09-02-08, 01:31

Johnny Sax

09-03-08, 03:22

[edit]
Johnny,
While you're definitely correct that the CR Mongers public enemy #1 is VP Laura Chinchilla, this latest move came from the San Jose CITY government, not her. The lady VP is probably still indirectly involved, just not in the way you suggest. The truth is that she and San Jose Mayor Johnny Araya, who directed the raids, are actually bitter political rivals who are competing to be President Oscar Arias's successor. VP Chinchilla railing against prostitution does get a lot of attraction among many elements of CR voters and Mayor Johnny probably had to do SOME thing, even if it was just token, to innoculate himself against charges that he wasn't doing anything about it.

Incidently, I've been very impressed with everything else that Mayor Johnny has been doing in SJ. Okay, all those vacas are a bit hokey, but the new Avenida 4 pedestrian walkway is looking really good (and free of cracks, holes and dropoffs), and he's also been making efforts (some more effective than others) to deal with traffic congestion, crime, street peddlers. There is even talk about putting in street signs all over SJ. Talk about hell freezing over.

I DON'T KNOW for certain, but I strongly suspect that this is just a phase among many other similar ones that have happened several times in the past and will probably happen again from time to time in the future. Unless that stuck-up feminist b*tch somehow manages to beat the mayor for the Presidency (hopefully unlikely), then I suspect things will pretty much go back to what they've been like once he's elected and we'll all look back on the events of recent weeks as a small momentary price to pay to help get "our guy" elected.

Anyway, that's my personal take on the situation. I hope I'm correct, but I certainly could be wrong (its also been known to happen from time to time).
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Thanks Norman and Lancer for the fresh info, and Prolijo, thanks to you for the San Jose/Costa Rica political analysis. You must live there or stay there a lot? I am working on that myself, and with some luck may be down there permanent in a year or two...

Anyway, I hope you're right about things getting back to normal soon, and I surely DO hope that c**t VP does not get elected! Man, that could really be ugly! I can't imagine Costa Rica electing a woman Prez though...

I would prefer NF, too, if I had a regular there. When I first went there years ago I met a girl there who I was totally "in love" with, she was awesome, but then every time I went back she was never there. If she was there, now, I'd also make NF a favorite hang out.

As for ZB, even though it is approaching the cost of girls at the BM and KL, I still like it because it's your basic "no hassle" solid one hour experience and I've never been too disappointed by anyone I've chosen there. (Admittedly I do have a method and knack for picking them.)

I like that they allow the girls to come over to you at the bar in ZB, unlike IDEM where they do not. Some guys like IDEM for that reason, but I'd rather fend off the girls I am not interested in than to have them all sitting along the wall like at IDEM where you can't see them well nor interact with them very well. That's why I don't usually get many girls at IDEM, it seems hard to get a rapport going with the girls there (though not impossible). That's another reason I don't like NF - the mirror deal, no bar... I prefer to interact with the girls at least a bit before choosing one.

Good to hear ZB is getting back in the swing of things again, and I will definitely check out La Gatita and maybe that other place someone mentioned that I have never heard of. I admire those who go to these "off the grid" places. I've generally had little success with such places so I seldom bother, but its true, sometimes you can find a great deal at some of those places.

Horntoad

09-03-08, 04:11

Johnny Sax

09-04-08, 09:47

I agree with you and like the fact that the girls can come up to you at ZB vs. Idem where they cannot because of house rules. At Idem, you have to call them over but the interested ones will make eye contact and flirt with you.

Johnny Sax, I felt the same way at New Fantasy but I just walk around the mirror and plop myself on the couch next to the girl I want to talk to.

Yeah, Horntoad, I've done that, too; but I have to be in a certain mood, and not only that, there has to be someone(s) there who inspires me to do so... the last few times I've looked through that mirror, I haven't seen anything that prevented me from walking on down to ZB...

Anyway, I'm 6 days away from arriving in San Jose'! I'll definitely write a report when I get back, or if I have time, while I'm there. I'm there for about a month, but unfortunately most of that month will be in an area of no action... But I'll hit San Jose' once when arriving, once in the middle and once at the end. So look for a report and photos around the middle of October...

Horntoad

09-04-08, 10:00

Yeah, Horntoad, I've done that, too; but I have to be in a certain mood, and not only that, there has to be someone(s) there who inspires me to do so... the last few times I've looked through that mirror, I haven't seen anything that prevented me from walking on down to ZB...

Anyway, I'm 6 days away from arriving in San Jose'! I'll definitely write a report when I get back, or if I have time, while I'm there. I'm there for about a month, but unfortunately most of that month will be in an area of no action... But I'll hit San Jose' once when arriving, once in the middle and once at the end. So look for a report and photos around the middle of October...

Haha, you're so right about not seeing anything inspiring at New Fantasy. The quality at Zona Blue or Hotel Little Havana as it is called now is way better. Also the girls at NF don't seem very interested and look bored most of the time. At ZB the girls flash you and lick each other right in the bar. Much more livelier atmosphere. I'm sure you will find something even though you are in an area with no action. :)
Have a great time!!

Junky11

09-05-08, 03:00

Horntoad

09-05-08, 06:14

I've heard ZB or now Little Havana (LH) is the best if you want to enter thru the back door. Is this available also at the HDR? How much more do providers want to come in thru the back entrance? The goal of my upcoming trip is to enter a 10 thru the back door. Guidance fellow mongers?

It's available but not as readily available like say Brazil. In my opinion, it depends on the girl, some will, some won't. I wouldn't offer more money for backdoor first, just ask if they are willing to do it and if they say no, see if a little extra might change their mind if that's what you really want.

Junky11

09-05-08, 23:03

It's available but not as readily available like say Brazil. In my opinion, it depends on the girl, some will, some won't. I wouldn't offer more money for backdoor first, just ask if they are willing to do it and if they say no, see if a little extra might change their mind if that's what you really want.

good info, thx

Lancer520

09-06-08, 05:35

So I just got home from a most painful flight back to the states that was six hours late and i'm exausted but i figured I'd give a brief reporting of the San Jose scene before I drift off. Did the full tour yesterday starting at Zona Blue at around 6. There were maybe ten girls in the bar area 2 of which were in the 7 to 8 range then a couple of 4's and 5's. It's gonna take some time to get the quality of the staff back to where it was before the closing but have a little faith in Eddie and the boys. I did get to meet one half of the sister team but she was snatched up before i even blinked. Heard the other one was up in one of the suites but I never saw her. Got a tour of the new wing and I must say it looks great. i think they have 8 new rooms all done with plasma TV's mirrored walls and ceilings and some of which have glass enclosed showers that you can look in from the bedroom. The new rooms will be open this coming week. I believe that they are gonna be $145 a night if i remember correctly with $20 girl pricing per hour. I did not partake in the festivites being that I really didn't see anything worth while and i knew it would be a long night.

Next we took a quick pass by new fantasy. Talent again was lacking but I saw 2 really hot ones going into the back as we were coming in. There were 6 girls in the boite none of which I would give over a six.

Then it was a quick walk up the street to the Sportsman's Lodge. I had never been there before and I tried to stay on both my way into and out of costa rica but they were booked. I was pleasantly surprised by how many quality girls were in there. The Giants game was on and i would say there were at least 30 girls and probably 5 or 6 would grade out at 8 or higher. We had dinner, watched a little football, then headed for the Del Rey.

First let me start this out by saying that Brazil will always be at the top of my list but Thursday night at the Del Rey around ten o'clock was probably the single best showing I'd ever seen in 5 years there. There was hot tica ass, nica ass, dominicana ass, and as always Colombian ass. I've always had a thing for Colombians(Only second to Brazilians) but i can't stand the business like way in which they work. Well, I took a leap of faith and came up huge. Like all hot colombians, she was from Meddillen and her name was Adriana. Took her back to my room at the Morazan and she tore me up. I had been in Arenal the previous two nights and there was zero action there so I had to make up for lost time. She wasn't a clockwatcher, she was smoking hot, personable, and phenominal in the sack. If i had met her earlier in the week she probably would have ended up in Arenal with me. Anyway back to the Del Rey. The level dropped off as the night progressed. It probably peaked at about 11 and then dropped off as all the 8's,9's and 10's got swooped up. I thought the night was over then around 1am it started picking back up again. Mind you, I was watching my surroundings from the blackjack table and for a change wasn't drinking, so my grading isn't skewed like it might be after say a dozen coronas. Last Thursday on my first night in CR at the DR I picked up an 18 year old Tica named Pamela. Didn't know she was 18 but once we got to my room it showed. Sex was pretty blah. She was really cute and she hangs out with her BFF blonde tica friend but i would definitely advise a pass on her.

In comparision to San Jose, I was really dissapointed in Jaco and most noticably, The Beetle Bar. The quality was pretty shitty and the new blacked out windows make the place so dark, you can't even see what your talking to. Even with the windows, there's no air conditioning and it's hot as shit. They are playing all club music now, no more rock and roll. I heard the place is for sale again. Maybe someone can return that place to it's former greatness. On a positive note, met three of the five new owners of new Monkey Bar. Two of them are from NY. The new name is the Funky Monkey and it should be open next month. Got a tour and the place looks like it's gonna be a hot spot again. They put a dance floor over the bar where they are going to do Wet T shirt contests and shit like that and they're in the process of builing a VIP room with plasma's off to the side. Hopefully the season will bring the return of the talent to the beach. Well I'm definitely crashing but if I think of anything else, I will add it in later.

MCruddy

09-06-08, 20:36

Well, I took a leap of faith and came up huge. Like all hot colombians, she was from Meddillen and her name was Adriana. Took her back to my room at the Morazan and she tore me up. I had been in Arenal the previous two nights and there was zero action there so I had to make up for lost time. She wasn't a clockwatcher, she was smoking hot, personable, and phenominal in the sack. If i had met her earlier in the week she probably would have ended up in Arenal with me. I know this Adriana and she is amazing. I first me her three years ago during my first trip to Costa Rica. I had a threesome with her and her friend, a schoolteacher from San Carlos. Adriana was definitely the better half of that duo.

Met year again last year and she remembered me! We had a one-on-one session and it was AWESOME! She was personalable and danced naked with me to music on the radio. Best of all, she rode me for all I was worth. An incredible experience. If you guys ever get a chance with Adriana from Medellin, Colombia, go for it. You won't regret it.

MCruddy

Johnny Sax

09-07-08, 02:13

So I just got home from a most painful flight back to the states that was six hours late and i'm exausted but i figured I'd give a brief reporting of the San Jose scene before I drift off.
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Thanks for the report.
I'm going to be down there on the 10th and in SJ through the 11th, then it's out to no man's land, (I mean, "no women" land)(I mean "no women for rent" land) for a few weeks, then back to San Jose for a couple nights...

Hopefully it will improve at ZB as far as talent goes, by the time I am there for my return to SJ. I am skeptical that ZB will ever return to its hey days, I think the new owners and the renovation is a sign of a bad change... I'm guessing either prices will go up too high and/or talent will go down too low...
but that's just my intuition, and I hope I'm wrong...

I can always find fun somewhere around SJ so I'm not that worried, but I just really liked the way ZB has been the past couple years and I'm afraid of change...

Paddy

09-19-08, 02:26

Hi Guys,

After almost 10 years of mongering in Prague I decided to try a closer venue with a reasonable exchange rate. Costa Rica and specifically San Jose became my target of operations. After reading the excellent information on this forum and one other I decided to stay in San Jose at the Del Rey.

Before getting to the Del Rey and Key Largo, I would like to give my impressions of Zona Blue, New Fantasy and Sportsmen's Lodge. When I walked into ZB late one afternoon it was full of drunk gringos smoking cigars who were generally loud and quite obnoxious. To make matters worse, the available women were average or less. They also looked bored and annoyed by the loud drunken gringos. Also, Pamela was not available so I took off.

I then went to NF and it wasn't much better in terms of available girls. I have to say that the hostess, Suzanne, was very charming I would have done her but of course this isn't possible.

I then went to Sportsmens Lodge and it was very quiet. I was there late afternoon and there were only a few women available. I spoke with one girl and when I began to leave she asked me for 6,000 Colones for dinner. I respectfully declined.

The Del Rey and Key Largo were outstanding. The hotel was nice and very comfortable. The hotel staff was very helpful and there was security everywhere. The thing that struck me about the Del Rey was that even in the morning and afternoon there are women everywhere and some real lookers on top of it. At night the Del Rey and the bars are loaded with women and the Blue Marlin in particular. I noticed that when the girls walk into the Del Rey they have to present their ID or surrender their passport to one of the security guards. Also, the women take up positions all around the lower level so you can move around to survey the possibilities. This was a target rich environment to say the least. Similar to Darlings or K5 in Prague but a lot less expensive.

To me, however, the best thing was to go across the street around 10:30 PM to Key Largo. This is basically a dance place with many, many girls there by 11 PM. Great bands every night. I finished just about every night there drinking, dancing and settling on my Tica for the night. When I finally decided on one which was usually around 1AM it was back to the Del Rey where the Tica presented her ID to security and we were off to the 5th floor until the sun came up.

In summary, I had no luck at ZB, NF or Sporstmen's. The Del Rey and Key Largo in particular were excellent and are as good or better than any place I've been to in Europe - and I've been to a lot of them. As far as Slavic girls vs. Latina girls, I like them both and they have their own special and unique qualities.

Paddy from Prague

Fuddzie

09-28-08, 12:34

I read about all of the different locations to meet ticas and all kinds of prices for services. I would like to get an idea of the costs for each major location for one an two girls and the type of service provided.

Que Rico

09-29-08, 03:28

Johnny Sax

09-30-08, 18:53

I'll be back in SJ tomorrow and Thur so will file another report later...

But I was there a few weeks ago, and this is my report:

Things are about the same all over as they have been for years except the price has gone up a bit - IN GENERAL, not always specifically.

The Blue Marlin is still jumping on Thursday night and I presume the weekend though I was just there on a Wed and Thur. The selection of girls is about the same, I guess, as it has always been. It might be that there are less great looking girls now than before or else it may be that I am just jaded.

Fewer seem willing to just come over and talk for awhile. Like strip clubs in the states, it seems the m.o. now is to get right to business and ask if you want company and if not they are out of there. There was a time when they would be willing to just sit and talk over a drink for a bit before hitting you up for the "deal". Of course this still can happen, it just seems to me it's not as common as it once was. I like to talk to the girls a bit and then decide, I'm not a "choose quick and go" guy.

Key Largo was about the same too. It gets going after the music starts. The first room you enter from the BM side is always full of about 80% or more fat and/or ugly chicks. But sometimes a gem is found in there, almost by accident it seems. The other rooms tend to fare better in KL, especially around midnight to 2am.

Zona Blue or now Little Havana has lost some sparkle for me. I hate cigar smoke. I just find it a dumb macho habit that causes cancer to those who smoke and to those who have to breathe their secondary smoke. I hope the cigar aspect of LH is not successful and it reverts back to just a regular bar, where there is always more than enough smoke, in any case. Go ahead and flame me for my anti-smoking stance, I expect it. I have never and will never like being around smoke, and cigar smoke is the worst.

As to the girls at ZB/LH there were about 12 all in all when I went in, probably around 5-6pm, and a few were pretty nice. I ended up not getting one because the 2-3 I was interested in got grabbed by a guy who was having a birthday and so took about 7 girls back to a room. So it goes. First come, first served. He must have had a great birthday party! I left disappointed because there was no one else there I wanted to session with.

But aside from the cigar thing, I do like the bigger size of the new LH bar. And I guess $3 for a beer isn't bad, but be careful what brand name liquor you ask for - a guy next to me ordered something and was charged $11 for it! He was shocked and said next time he'd know to ask. Said it's much less than that in the states. Best to just drink beer since I think mixed drinks in there are now $4-5 each. I didn't go look at the new rooms as I am not that interested in staying there at this point. I'll keep checking out the talent at LH, though I doubt it will ever be as fun a place to go as it used to be, for me.

I stopped in at NF and had a look - same old bored looking girls with "don't pick me" on their faces for the most part, and not that great looking either. By the way, the "don't pick me" was not based on me specifically because I stayed behind the mirror. I don't like the whole mirror thing, though; I like to have a girl come up to me at a bar and talk to her a bit before going back to a room - UNLESS I happen to see someone who is "just my type" physically, sitting there, then I sometimes am willing to just pick her and take my chances. In this case, and in the past few years when I've stopped in for a look at NF, that did not happen. There was a time 3-4 years ago when I did find a couple in there I really liked, though, so you never know.

So the first night I was tired from a big fiasco with my flight that I won't go into, suffice it to say I didn't get into town until around 8pm instead of the 9:30am it should have been. So I wasn't really up for much action. But my old standby Dominicana walked in and I ended up going back to the room with her for a nice massage and etc. She's a sweet girl and very accommodating and I always go with her once during a trip if I see her, and she gives me a good price. So that was pretty good.

Then the next night I saw this blonde with one of the cutest faces I've seen for a long time and I started talking with her. She claimed to be 20, from Venezuela and to be new at this business - only 10 days or so at it as I recall; but she came here because the economy in her town in Ven. was very bad and she - of course - has a child back there to support. I tend to believe she was at least relatively new because she was very nervous in the bar. I finally talked to her about that and then she loosened up. After awhile I made my deal ($70 or $75 as I recall) and we went back to my room. She gave me a cbj and we played around a bit. She was really into getting banged HARD FROM BEHIND, so that was kinda fun. I gave it to her so hard and long my knees were so tired I could hardly walk. She seemed to enjoy it and so did I; she banged back if you know what I mean. But she lacked a certain something in bed, not sure exactly what; just a little too reserved aside from the doggy style hard banging. But it was worth it for the excitement of seeing a face and body that really turned me on in the bar, and then getting to take her back to my room. Something great about that!

Later I went over to KL just to have a drink and look-see, and some short little Nica who was a little cute but not cute enough to pay for started asking me to dance with her. I told her I was NOT interested in sex tonight, that I'd already had mine. She insisted on dancing with me anyway so I obliged. Well, long story short, she started telling me she had a child back in Nica who needed a $5K operation, and then started hitting me up for money. "Just $20 to hang out with her and dance". I said no. Then, "Just $10 for a cab home". At that point I just left, over her objections. I don't like being begged and pressured for money, for nothing, even charity. If she really wanted some dough she could have offered to give me bj for $20 or something like that. But really, she didn't even turn me on much and I didn't like the way she was working me.

Moral of the story: when a chick starts in with the "I desperately need $" bit, get the hell out of there.

All in all I had a good enough time during my 2 nights in San Jose. Not one for the record books, but it wasn't bad. Hopefully tomorrow and Thur will be better.

Member #2964

10-01-08, 12:29

"Go ahead and flame me for my anti-smoking stance, I expect it. I have never and will never like being around smoke, and cigar smoke is the worst."

No Flame here J Sax. Im' with you 100%.

Its gotten to the point that after a night at BM / KL I just soak my cloths just to get rid of the smoke smell.

Thankfully most nights I session and get the smoke off me and her before hitting la cama.

The government has just stated to premote non smoking. If its like any other law thats talked about or passed in CR, it will be long after our lifetimes that any change occures.

Iguana Six

10-08-08, 01:56

...between going to San Jose, Tijuana, or Panama City for a short (a week or less) trip, where would you go?

I am shipping out for the Middle East before the holidays. I would like the forum's advice in deciding where I should I go for some pre-deployment mongering, as where I am going will be as dry as a bone.

I used to go to Tijuana in 2000, have been to San Jose in 2006, and have made several recent trips to Panama City. I hope to get in a October and an early November trip in, each of a week or less duration.

A short Tijuana trip would have easy logistics. Fewer questions are asked for a pass to Los Angeles. A flight from the east coast (IAD or RIC) isn't too expensive, and hopefully neither are hotels and rental cars in San Diego. I don't know what the current quality of the AB and CC talent is.

Costa Rica requires a cover story. Getting a good rate on a flight and a hotel might require at least a month's advance purchase. I recall the talent in the lobby of the Del Rey ranged from porn star to fryolater operator at the Dairy Queen.

Panama requires a cover story, good rates for flight/hotel. However, I could easily spend a week going through the "sampler package" at Golden Times. (Have they raised their prices?) I am still fascinated by the snap shots I took of one particular CMM (Colombian Mattress Monster)....

So help a fellow monger out. Where would you go if you could do two short (and hopefully not too expensive) trips?

Acenva

10-09-08, 03:29

I flew last month with short notice from IAD( Dullas airport) to SJO for 350usd. The order of short trip would be Costa Rica due to cost from IAD and the talent. Second I would add Domincan Republic (santa Domingo or Purto plata) then would be Panama, last would be Tijuana. Going to Costa Rica or Panama gives you a large selection of chicas. But the place to go would be to Rio... That is #1 for the selection of south American chica's.

Just my 2 cents

Below some choices 1 Rita from Brazil, 2 Karin from Dominican Republic, 3 Karina from Costa Rica

...between going to San Jose, Tijuana, or Panama City for a short (a week or less) trip, where would you go?

I am shipping out for the Middle East before the holidays. I would like the forum's advice in deciding where I should I go for some pre-deployment mongering, as where I am going will be as dry as a bone.

I used to go to Tijuana in 2000, have been to San Jose in 2006, and have made several recent trips to Panama City. I hope to get in a October and an early November trip in, each of a week or less duration.

A short Tijuana trip would have easy logistics. Fewer questions are asked for a pass to Los Angeles. A flight from the east coast (IAD or RIC) isn't too expensive, and hopefully neither are hotels and rental cars in San Diego. I don't know what the current quality of the AB and CC talent is.

Costa Rica requires a cover story. Getting a good rate on a flight and a hotel might require at least a month's advance purchase. I recall the talent in the lobby of the Del Rey ranged from porn star to fryolater operator at the Dairy Queen.

Panama requires a cover story, good rates for flight/hotel. However, I could easily spend a week going through the "sampler package" at Golden Times. (Have they raised their prices?) I am still fascinated by the snap shots I took of one particular CMM (Colombian Mattress Monster)....

So help a fellow monger out. Where would you go if you could do two short (and hopefully not too expensive) trips?

Prolijo

10-09-08, 14:16

The order I'd suggest would be similar to Ace's but my reasoning for you would be a little different.

You mentioned the possible need for a cover story as a major factor in your decision. It's really not that hard to come up with a cover story for going to CR (unless you've already been there a zillion times like many of us). Sure others might suspect you're real motivation. So what? You're in the military and just doing what many soldiers do. Many regular Americans also go to CR for many reasons and you can use any of those reasons as your excuse - fishing, surfing, eco-tourism, etc.

The other major factor you mentioned was logistics. Flights to CR from IAD are nearly as easy to get as they are to San Diego and nearly as cheap. Whatever amount you MIGHT save on airfare, you'd probably pay in the extra cost of hotel rooms in San Diego, which by the way is still a schlep from Tijuana. Does that mean you might also want to lay out even more cash for a rental car or rely on the trolley? Alternatively, staying overnight in Tijuana itself puts you in an urban sewer that makes the much complained about crime in San Jose seem like being in Disneyland.

One factor you didn't mention is the difference between the chicas. I'm no expert on Tijuana, but I think for the casual visitor it is harder to find chicas that aren't the mechanical can you come already non-GFE's in a high traffic place like Tijuana than it is in CR. The regular Tijuana mongers in that forum section will probably disagree with me on that (and probably on my other pints as well) but you asked the question here in the CR section and that is the way I see it.

So, IMHO, CR beats Tijuana hands down for you. What about Panama? Well it is right next door to CR and so will be similar in terms of logistics (i.e. airfare hotel pricing, meals, etc.). I think it would be a bit more of a stretch in terms of your cover story since it is not anywhere nearly as popular with Americans for "normal" vacations. You can find some gorgeous chicas there particularly many Colombianas and, like CR, many will be more GFE than Tijuana. However I think the chica pricing is a bit more and the number and type of monger venues is nothing like CR and particularly world famous places like the BM and KL. Panama's mongering revolves much more around stripclubs, which can be pricey as it is everywhere. I don't believe PC has the daytime cheapo MP scene that SJ offers. And the only possible cost savings would be fishing in those clubs for later dates with those chicas. Again, my knowledge and experience in Panama is limited and others may say I'm completely wrong but I would have to rank Panama a couple of notches down on the list for YOU, but still well above Tijuana.

What about those other destinations that Ace just added to the mix? There is no doubt at all that both DR and Rio (GIG) are top notch mongering destinations. For Rio in particular I'd have to say just "Wow", the garotas are exceptionally hot. However, I'm not sure how those 2 places compare with CR in terms of the "cover story" that you say you'd need. I will say that, in terms of logistics, for just a quick weeklong trip, Rio might be a bit problematic. Airfares to there would be the highest of any of these destinations and its a long ass flight (though it can be done overnight). That sort of situation usually mitigates towards a somewhat longer trip over which you can spread those costs. Also once you're there it is not nearly as cheap as it used to be since the dollar has not been doing well against the real. And finally, for Brazil, there is that expensive visa that you'd need to get very fast if you wanted to go by the end of this month.

I haven't been to the DR yet but it is definitely on my list of places to check out (and on the list of many of my CR buddies) as various aspects of the CR scene decline (or we simply become jaded by our many trips there). Another plus factor for DR that no one mentioned is that, unlike all the options on your original list, you haven't been there yet. Why do you have to limit yourself to places you've already been? Why not try out some place new? I'm not sure where I'd place the Dominican Republic on that list but it would be definitely near the top and for your quick trip, ahead of distant Rio and waaayyy ahead of nearby Tijuana.

Iguana Six

10-10-08, 01:49

The order I'd suggest would be similar to Ace's but my reasoning for you would be a little different.

I'm not sure where I'd place the Dominican Republic on that list but it would be definitely near the top and for your quick trip, ahead of distant Rio and waaayyy ahead of nearby Tijuana.

Gentlemen, thank you for all the advice. I am leaning towards a short trip to TJ in October (a week or less), and perhaps a combined PTY/SJO trip in November (a 9 day trip).

For TJ, I think I will fly into San Diego, take the trolley, and hotel in San Ysidro. No rental car needed. If I reserve soon, I can save on the airfare and lock up a room. Thinking about spending some nights hotelling in TJ, but I'd like your recommendations for safe/clean/inexpensive hotels near the zone.

I've had both mechanical transactions and GFE's in TJ in 2000. With hundreds of providers in the area, all you need to do is find one you like. Spanish skills and an ability to read people help. The posts help. Not that much different from my experiences in other places. The proximity to El Norte and its conveyor belt of dollar bearing mongers mitigates the economic neediness we experience in Central America.

The PTY-SJO trip might be a little trickier. I've got a cover story. The pland is for toe-curling, bone rattling encounters with Colombian Mattress Monsters for a couple of days, followed by a few days alone in SJO trolling the local MP's for the diamonds-in-the-rough and the platoons of providers in the BM and DR, and then, if my Nica comes down for a couple of days, a few days of GFE's. Towards the end, I should be pretty drained and can appreciate seducing my Nica.

But I would appreciate any advice on inexpensive hotels in San Jose that are close to BM and Del Rey. A cursory check on airfares shows that on some airlines to leave SJO for IAD, I would have to fly back to PTY.

Ah, DR. I have some nice memories of Santo Domingo. I've spent many a summer down there as a kid. I've got relatives down there, so cover story not necessary. (I just have to swallow enough bile to talk to those commie cretins.) When I went in 2000, I had some nice experiences taking providers out of the two clubs downtown and taking them to the push-button hotels they called "cabinas". I also had two nice experiences at an MP that fronted as a beauty salon.

Pedroxboy

10-10-08, 03:07

Can this be right? 3rd week in Oct 08 and with tax it is like 180 for a single standard room. Is this right or am I being taken?

Max Mojo

10-10-08, 15:37

Your being taken.

Max Mojo

10-10-08, 15:57

Your being taken.

Can this be right? 3rd week in Oct 08 and with tax it is like 180 for a single standard room. Is this right or am I being taken?

Member #3437

10-10-08, 18:34

Can this be right? 3rd week in Oct 08 and with tax it is like 180 for a single standard room. Is this right or am I being taken?

It has been a while, but I considered going there next week for five days. This is what i got from the local hotels.

Presidente:

Greetings from Hotel Presidente.

"Unfortunately we do not have rooms available for the requested days, if you wish we can add your name to our waiting list so we will contact you as soon as we recibe any cancellation."

Sportsmans..

"Rooms are 90 per night for a single, and we can accomodate you for a portion of your stay".

Del rey

"Yes, we have a single room available the rate for the time specified will be $900 dollars". (yes, $180 per night, and I told them I was a return quest).

Fuck Costa Rica. You would think I was going to the french riviera instead of a third world capital city. I booked a ticket instead to St. Maarten.

Prolijo

10-11-08, 00:30

...Fuck Costa Rica. You would think I was going to the french riviera instead of a third world capital city. I booked a ticket instead to St. Maarten.The problem that you and others are having is that you seem to think there are only 3 hotels in all of San Jose. If you were going to a "third world country" beach during the rainy season, you'd find plenty of vacancies. SJ may be a third world capital city where you wouldn't expect to get much off-season tourism, but the 3 hotels you limited yourself to are also the 3 hotels that are most well known to mongers, a travel segment that does not experience the same seasonality as mainstream tourism.

The HDR in particular is the beneficiary of this mindset. There are many guys who don't know much about CR beyond that it is supposed to be a good monger destination and that the world famous Hotel Del Rey and its Blue Marlin Bar are thee places to go. Besides such newbies, there are also a few vets who feel they absolutely always have to be in the heart of the action that the Blue Marlin represents or even those who go to CR and never venture out of the pink palace. Because of the resulting demand, HDR management feels they can get away with charging ridiculous premiums for mediocre rooms, $10 chica fees (how is that chica-friendly?), lousy casino payouts, high drink prices and surly greedy service. If it weren't for its excessive fame amongst (relatively) ignorant mongers who don't know any better, I'd have to wonder why anyone stays there.

The reason the Presidente doesn't have rooms in October is because they happen to be undergoing a major remodel this month. Even if they weren't, it is a has-been as far as being a monger favorite. Their chica dress code (instituted nearly 2 years ago?) sent a strong signal as to what type of business they really preferred having.

And finally the Sportsman's, it is a really nice hotel that targets the monger market. Its management and staff provide the type of attention to the needs of our market that the other two places increasingly lack. That $90 rate is probably for one of the more premium single rooms but much better rates can be had IF you have a CRT card. That said because it is such a good place for guys like us, and is so heavily promoted and recommended on this board and others, it is also the first place to book up. Remember that, unlike the ecotourism market, the flow of mongers to CR is much more steady and so the places that are most popular with our crowd can book up even during what would be the off-season in CR and other places (like Saint Maarten).

But that doesn't mean those are your only choices. Did you check with the Amistad, Castillo, Dunn Inn, Casa Vino, Amon Plaza (casino rate), Inca Real, Brittania, BW Downtown, Morazon, Balmoral, Hotel Freebird, Royal Dutch? All have been favorably reviewed and are chica-friendly. If that doesn't work for you, I've also stayed at the Hotel Doral on a number of occasions (a little further from the Gulch though close to several tico nightclubs, $30/nt including tax, $5 chica fee and very decent rooms) and have NEVER failed to find a vacancy.

Looking For Eden

10-11-08, 04:47

That is nothing short of highway robbery. I laughed out loud reading this. I agree with WestFLA. Lots of better destinations out there

Pedroxboy

10-11-08, 14:59

That is nothing short of highway robbery. I laughed out loud reading this. I agree with WestFLA. Lots of better destinations out thereI think the problem here is that I somehow went through a web link that directed booking through a travel agent. Here is their response. (I emailed the DR directly and they quoted me a price that is exactly half the amount. I wonder if the DR knows that they are losing out on business because of this agent? )

The rate for your reservation arrival October 17th. And departure October 26th. 2008, for 10 nights is $1, 600 plus taxes 16. 39% the total amount (tax included) is $1, 862 use this exact amount on the authorization form!

To guarantee your reservation, print the authorization form, sign it, scan it, and send it as an attachment by e-mail or fax.

Important_ we appreciate if you send us your information as soon as possible, because we have a lot request for those dates and to send you the confirmation voucher, thank you.

Sincerely yours,

Sascha Fitzgerald

Account Manager

Discovery Travel World

Pure Power

10-11-08, 17:50

I have stayed at the Castillo 3 times last year. It is hands down the best value in SJO for a hotel. It is a 3 min taxi ride to the HDR. It is a 5 min walk to Zona Blue. A 1 block walk to NF.

They have drivers and a nice quiet restaurant. Just tell the taxi divers "Hotel Cas-ti-o" They will know.

http://www.hotelcastillo.biz/

World Travel 69

10-12-08, 08:13

As Posted last year. I liked the place. Get the top floor room, big and great view.

I have stayed at the Castillo 3 times last year. It is hands down the best value in SJO for a hotel. It is a 3 min taxi ride to the HDR. It is a 5 min walk to Zona Blue. A 1 block walk to NF.

They have drivers and a nice quiet restaurant. Just tell the taxi divers "Hotel Cas-ti-o" They will know.

http://www.hotelcastillo.biz/

JazzPlayer

10-12-08, 15:25

[QUOTE=Prolijo]The problem that you and others are having is that you seem to think there are only 3 hotels in all of San Jose.

...more rant deleted...

If it weren't for its excessive fame amongst (relatively) ignorant mongers who don't know any better, I'd have to wonder why anyone stays there.

Sheesh, The Del Rey isn't all that bad. I like staying there when I come for a three-day weekend. I can go up and down so easy, no cab, no nothing. And in the day out to all my fave tico masseje's.

Also, the sixth floor is $130 a night, seems reasonable to me.

Just my $.02.

Regards,

Ignorant monger ;-)

Prolijo

10-13-08, 06:36

Jazz,
You conveniently deleted this part of my "rant":
...Besides such newbies, there are also a few vets who feel they absolutely always have to be in the heart of the action that the Blue Marlin represents or even those who go to CR and never venture out of the pink palace. ....Apparently, you fall into one of those OTHER groups. I NEVER said that there weren't ANY vets that stayed there TOO. All I was suggesting was that the HDR gets a huge portion (probably the vast bulk) of their business from first-time/one-time visitors who are much less familiar with the various alternatives AND that was the main reason that they are able to charge the (IMHV) ridiculous premiums that they do (such as $10 chica fees that would make any other place be considered not exactly chica friendly if they charged it).

Are you suggesting that the HDR ISN'T famous to the point that there are many guys who know little else about the CR mongering scene other than HDR and its Blue Marlin Bar? Do you normally find such newbies frequenting other venues in SJ once they get to SJ to the same extent you find more regular and knowledgeable visitors? I think most people would say no and agree with me on those last 2 points whether they agreed with me that the HDR is over-rated or over-priced or not. As for the rest of my "rant", its normally called "stating an opinion". I never said you or any one else had to agree with all of it.

Katokay

10-13-08, 12:08

Please stop trying to respond to prolijo. He ruined a former website with a few others by constantly making personal attacks and trolling. It appears he is up to the same here.

Prolijo

10-14-08, 03:45

Please stop trying to respond to prolijo. He ruined a former website with a few others by constantly making personal attacks and trolling. It appears he is up to the same here.Excuse me, Katouey, you seem badly confused.

First of all, who was I personally attacking here? I was stating my opinion about a hotel and perhaps its GENERAL client base and not any particular individual. And what was I saying that was so bad about those clients that my generalization might apply to? That they weren't fully aware of other hotel options that, IMHO, are much better than the HDR? Or, if they did, that they'd prefer to spend most of their time in the "belly of the beast" despite there being much better values for their money (again IMHO)? What is so horrible about that? The "ignorance" I referred to I thought was pretty clearly the newbie monger masses who DON'T have the benefit of boards like this one (ie no one here). Did I actually call VETS like Jazz who stayed there some sort of idiot or did I just say I WONDERED why anyone else stayed there?

Secondly, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, controversial and irrelevant or off-topic messages to get attention, to disrupt discussion, and to make trouble. I'm not trying to make trouble or get attention. And I'm not trying to be controversial just for controversy's sake. I'm just stating my views. I'm sorry if some of those views seem controversial to you but they are completely on-topic and valid subjects for this DISCUSSION forum (and the few that do go off topic are still only in direct response to posts like yours which IS a personal attack).

Thirdly, your vague reference to some former website that I personally ruined is misleading at best and libelous at worst (you seem to pop up once a year here only to make the same baseless charge). The former website that you're obviously referring to was CRS and that was not brought down by me. Just ask anyone else. Everyone but apparently you knows it was brought down by a troll named Badabing (and several other of his personas) along with the failure of the moderator, Rico, to do anything about him. Sure, I helped feed the troll in the beginning (by sticking up for a friend who he personally attacked) but not any more so than many other members. LATER, AFTER that site was for all intents and purposes ALREADY DEAD because a) virtually all of the site's members had already abandoned it and moved to CRT and b) the ONLY posts being made were flames by Bada's crew, I RETURNED to respond back. I suppose you could say I helped bury the corpse but if that is so it is only because no one else was posting anything else there at that point any way. And that is nothing at all like what you suggested with your comment, so if you're going to make such charges get it right.

Anyway, all of that is ancient history and completely irrelevant to what is going on here. Unlike Badabing, I'm not shilling for any business, deliberately flaming any members, going off-topic (except when drawn off-topic to defend myself against personal attacks like yours), or trying to bring down this board. And I have every faith that Jackson will do the right thing to maintain civility while preserving the free flow of ideas.

Fantasy

10-14-08, 05:03

Prolijo

10-14-08, 06:48

I think the problem here is that I somehow went through a web link that directed booking through a travel agent. I think the website you used was www.1-costaricalink.com and that explains a LOT.

There is an interesting story behind that website, which you can get a glimpse of if you click on their link "Illegal webmasters" at the bottom of their home page. According to them their former webmaster "hijacked" their site and domain name which was www.1costaricalink.com (ie withOUT a dash). So they set up another site using almost the exact same domain name and the exact same layout right down to the graphics (who hijacked whom?). Of course, their former webmaster, Forrest Geiger, had a radically different story, which you can find at http://www.1costaricalink.com/eng/web/warning-credit-card.htm. Its hard to tell what the exact truth was but I've had private e-mail exchanges with the Forrest (some of which you can read at that link) and, IMHO, his version sounded much more credible. As further evidence of that, the Maleks, who own the site with the dash, have since at least changed the logo to DTW for Discovery Travel World, which I doubt they'd have done unless they lost in court. Even more noteworthy than the particulars of those private business disputes, because they might have impacted you, are the MANY MANY complaints against the site WITH the dash that have been reported on various travel forums, which further weakens their credibility.

Forget about the outrageous price they were trying to fool you into paying for the moment, you were really fortunate you didn't pay it for other reasons. They have a reputation of not paying all their bills, of taking money from customers in exchange for worthless "vouchers" and of not transferring that money to the hotels or other businesses involved. You might have showed up at the Del Rey only to find that they did not know anything about your reservation.

Member #3437

10-14-08, 15:09

i just spent 3 weeks in san jose while getting major dental work done. i have a good spot for you at 53 bucks a night with tax and a great breakfast. five minute walk to gulch or one minute by cab (at night of course). also if you have not been to the "saint" before, i can fill you in. Email me if interested. I am making a return to the sewer in mid to late November for a couple weeks (have not been in a year and a half!!!!), and somewhere else in Central A in mid to late december.

Glad to see you got your dental work done! I had a bunch of work done in Cartagena and also some done in Lima.

I haven't been to Sosuer in about 2 years with no plans on returning.

Why don't you shag yourself down to St. Maarten this thursday and we will hang out old school style?

JazzPlayer

10-15-08, 02:59

Jazz,

You conveniently deleted this part of my "rant":Apparently, you fall into one of those OTHER groups. I NEVER said that there weren't ANY vets that stayed there TOO. All I was suggesting was that the HDR gets a huge portion (probably the vast bulk) of their business from first-time/one-time visitors who are much less familiar with the various alternatives AND that was the main reason that they are able to charge the (IMHV) ridiculous premiums that they do (such as $10 chica fees that would make any other place be considered not exactly chica friendly if they charged it).

Are you suggesting that the HDR ISN'T famous to the point that there are many guys who know little else about the CR mongering scene other than HDR and its Blue Marlin Bar? Do you normally find such newbies frequenting other venues in SJ once they get to SJ to the same extent you find more regular and knowledgeable visitors? I think most people would say no and agree with me on those last 2 points whether they agreed with me that the HDR is over-rated or over-priced or not. As for the rest of my "rant", its normally called "stating an opinion". I never said you or any one else had to agree with all of it.Every single thing you wrote is correct. Including the original post. I've followed your posts for several years and learned a ton from you and other CTRers' as well as this great ISG.

The $10 chica fee is a drag but I just overlook it for the sheer joy of being in the DR.

Regards from a fellow monger,

Jazz/

JazzPlayer

10-15-08, 03:01

Please stop trying to respond to prolijo. He ruined a former website with a few others by constantly making personal attacks and trolling. It appears he is up to the same here.I don't see it that way. I've read his stuff for a long time including on another board. He knows a lot about CR.

On another note, I'll be in CR this Friday night enjoying the scene, Oh staying in the DR too.

Regards,

lifetime ignorant monger

World Travel 69

10-15-08, 08:46

Check my Posts, on the ISG sites and AP.
A lot of the info comes from Prolijo.

He has added so much info to the Lists.
YOU have not!
So what are you going to say about where we can find Chicas?
Come on Where is your Info?
I have so many Blanks on the List.
Are you just peaking Johns?

Prolijo

10-15-08, 12:19

Fantasy

10-15-08, 23:12

I'll just add these quick "off-topic" comments before we go back to discussing chicas and other CR travel issues:

Thanks a lot guys! Its gratifying to know that both of you (and probably many more) don't share the hostility of the few. I'd also like to add that I'm glad that Jazz didn't take my comments about the HDR personally and I'm sure he really isn't a lifetime "ignorant" monger :). While I still can't really understand why he and some other CR vets like to stay at the HDR, I'm sure they have their reasons even if they just call it personal preference. Heck, some guys like BBW's too and I can't see that either, but different strokes for different folks. Personally, I get more than enough "sheer joy" just VISITING the BM and don't feel the need to live in an overpriced shabby room just because it happens to be located right above it. Obviously YMMV.

Now back to our regularly scheduled program...

Last week while sitting at the Del Rey, I was talking with a long time Monger. He said he was staying upstairs for six nights. I, of course, replied:"why in the world would a Spanish speaking, experienced monger stay upstairs? Why? it is stupid? Only a newbie would do it?" He took a sip of his beer, and turned to me and lifted his shirt. their was a huge scar up his left side. He went on to tell me that during a regular mongering trip he jumped into a cab to return to his hotel one night. The cab took him about 6 blocks and turned into an alley. The cab driver told him to get out, he was going home. He was jumped, stabbed and robbed by two young guys. They got $30.00. He was experienced and had no cash, no jewelry, no watch, no camera, nothing. He stated he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
His dilemma was: do I give up mongering, or do I change the way I monger. He chose to greatly increase his level of safety. He is a light drinking, 48 year old fit and trim spanish speaking monger.

Fantasy: Open mouth, Insert foot.

I will never, ever question why anyone does what they do ever again.

Fantasy

10-15-08, 23:32

Glad to see you got your dental work done! I had a bunch of work done in Cartagena and also some done in Lima.

I haven't been to Sosuer in about 2 years with no plans on returning.

Why don't you shag yourself down to St. Maarten this thursday and we will hang out old school style?

When I saw you had booked, I was shocked. I know that you and I have a different style than most here who like the w-b-thank you maam.... Both St. Maarten and Curacao are geared more toward "in house" fucking. I like the confines of my own temporary fuck palace(aka my room).
Because of the wealth on these two islands, hooking up with regulars is quite difficult, even for a seasoned veteran like yourself. I never really was thrilled about doing house girls exclusively. Once in awhile in between 'the chase' is fine, but not every night!
St. Maarten is full of specialty houses. Seamans for the Colombiana lover, But why not go to Colombia? The White House (Casa Blanca, located almost on top of the Dutch/French border), full of Dominicans. Why not go to the DR? And more........ You can grab some of these girls during the day, but to me, its just not the same.
But I do know you, and you sat there and said, "I want to go somewhere new!" I hope you have a good time, and I am ready to "Old School" with you. Maybe somewhere in November. I look forward to hearing whether I was right, For your sake, I hope not. Have a safe flight Tomm. I enjoyed the little bar directly under the main runway of the airport. It sits directly under the flight path and right on the ocean. Pretty cool. You will find it. It is next to the Maho Beach Resort.

DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME VISITING THE NUDE BEACHES ON THE FRENCH SIDE. DISGUSTING!!!

Sorry guys for posting this on the Costa Rica Board!

Prolijo

10-16-08, 00:12

That's a good story, Fantasy. I wouldn't exactly call what I've been doing "questioning" someone's motives so much as simply saying I don't understand them. And I think our discussion, if everyone can remain civil, can help all sides better understand the other. Jazz mentioned the sheer joy of always being on the frontline's of SJ's biggest circus. Your drinking buddy mentioned the feeling of greater security. I think those are both very good points. I just don't think for me (and prehaps most other CR vets) they're sufficient to outweigh the disadvantages.

I think the HDR could be a really great place for a newbie down on his first trip to spend a few days (or at least one or two) IN SPITE of the excessive amount I feel they charge and EVEN IF he is not that ignorant and is aware of other places. The first time you see what goes on in the Blue Marlin Bar it is a real eye-opener that initially you just can't get enough of. You want to be around it all the time and really experience it. Eventually, though, the novelty starts to wear off, you still enjoy going there but you need to take your breaks from it and you also start to want to explore other things. Maybe it takes just a few nights on your first trip maybe it takes a few trips but eventually the BM is seen as just one piece of what draws you to CR, perhaps an important piece, but still one of many. I know many vets who are totally burned out on the BM and all its mercenary cien-demanding chicas. They may go yo enjoy the floor show or to chat with their buddies but the number of new chicas they pull out of there becomes less and less. That is why, for me, popping in an out of there once or twice a day or even skipping a night altogether brings me more than enough joy.

As for the security aspect, that story was very dramatic, but if things have really gotten so bad in SJ that one has to stay inside one building rather than taking a cab then maybe the time has come to seek other mongering venues altogether. Frankly, I don't think things really have gotten that bad. Its understandably why that guy feels so paranoid given what happened to him, but I think he was just very unlucky. Unless he got into a unregulated pirate taxi, I think what happened to him with that cab driver is still very unusual (ie does not make it necessary to avoid cabs by staying inside the HDR).

I like to complain about the chica fee at the HDR, but I rarely if ever bring more than one chica per day back to my room and if that $10 extra surcharge were all it was then the HDR wouldn't be so bad. Actually, one of the biggest problems I have with the HDR, doesn't even have anything to do with the nickel and diming they do, but is precisely the security. Sure, if I stayed inside the building all the time I'd feel very secure, but eventually almost everyone has to step out. And the area where I usually feel least secure is the area immediately outside the HDR's doors. You can not take one step outside of the HDR, even to step into one of the overpriced cabs that park by the curb, without getting accosted by all sorts of street riff-raff. Sometimes, they're just very persistent beggars who are probably harmless enough but are a distraction for the real threat of the potential muggers who trail behind only to jump you when you get far enough away. You get street riff-raff anywhere in SJ but nothing like the concentration of ones that prey on the drunk rich gringo traffic that goes through the doors of the HDR. If you stay elsewhere, you may be subjected to that 2-3 times day or whenever you visit the BM bar . If you stay at the HDR, you get subjected to it whenever you go ANYWHERE, which could mean dozens of times.

Anyway, that is my take, but I'd be interested to hear other perspectives.

Fantasy

10-16-08, 02:02

Prolijo

10-16-08, 05:17

Just who is the kettle here or putting words into the other's mouth? Let's look at what you just wrote point by point:

1) "Dramatic? No, just factual." - Wrongo. Dramatic? It definitely IS dramatic. Sure, it is ALSO factual but I NEVER said it WASN'T (perhaps you're just confused because I included your handle at the end of that remark?). So who is really putting words into the other's mouth here or mischaracterizing those words?

2) "One should not call anothers decision crazy or Dramatic for any reason." - Wrong again. Where did I ever call yours or anyone's DECISION "crazy" or even "Dramatic"? All I said was that I couldn't understand that decision and wouldn't make the same one myself. I did call what HAPPENED to the guy you MET as dramatic and I'd still do that. Wouldn't you also call innocently getting into a cab and winding up being driven to a dark alley where you get attacked by 2 muggers and having a huge scar to show for it as being pretty dramatic? But even if I did call a DECISION dramatic (not crazy) what would be so bad with that? Again, who is putting words into the other's mouth or mischaracterizing those words?

3) "you "Know it all", and find it impossible to believe anyone but yourself could make a valid point." - Huh? Didn't I say in my very first paragraph " I think those are both very good points." For that matter, didn't I also open with this comment "I think our discussion, if everyone can remain civil, can help all sides better understand the other" and close with "Anyway, that is my take, but I'd be interested to hear other perspectives."? That should suggest to you and everyone else that I don't claim to "know it all" but rather need (and want) to hear other people's ideas so that I can understand them. What I don't want to hear are personal attacks like yours which go completely off the valid subject of discussion (the relative merits of the HDR) and force me to have defend myself against ridiculous assertions. So, again I DON'T claim to know it all and WANT to hear VALID points (just not personal attacks) and YOUR saying anything different is putting words in MY mouth.

4) "Putting words into the mouth of others seems to be your hobby. No where did I say that San Jose is a shooting Gallery, or that everyone should avoid Taxis." Yeah right. I still haven't seen even one instance where I've put any words into others' mouths, let alone where I've made it a hobby. You're absolutely right that you never said San Jose was a shooting gallery but where did I ever say you did? I DID say that it was understandable if the GUY felt that way and had become paranoid about the situation in SJ given what happened to him. I also said that what happened to him was unusual and did not mean one should try to avoid having to take cabs by staying at the HDR. We both may agree on that but, again, I never said you yourself said otherwise. Clearly, all my further commentary on that point was about what that OTHER guy was doing because of what happened to HIM and nothing at all to do with what you yourself said or do. So again I'M NOT putting words into your mouth as you claim I am but YOU are putting words in MINE.

Its interesting to note that we've gotten into this sort of dance before (about 3-4 months ago) where you've claimed I'd put words into your mouth and was somehow denying your right to having your own personal opinion. In that case, as in this one, I wasn't mistating what you wrote or questioning your right to your views. What I did then was point out some factual errors with some of your comments and apparently you still haven't gotten over that.

I really believe most members here have no problem at all reading the different views people have on various subjects of concern to SJ visitors. What they don't want to read are posts by guys with chips on their shoulders, personal attacks on other members or, I'll also recognize, my own defensive responses. So why can't we just get back to a serious but friendly, civil and on-topic discussion that can help us all better understand each other?

Mangera

10-16-08, 12:39

Gentlemen, anyone know if the tough economic times in the USA has effected the pricing in any way at this time at the blue marlin?

Are the ladies caving in and adjusting their pricing? Just curious since I will be there in a couple of weeks.

Tiny 12

10-16-08, 19:27

I don't want to become part of this debate, but if a room costs $130 to $180 now at the DR that does seem like a rip off. Reading through this thread I remembered that the hottest woman I've seen posted on ISG was in a photo by Fantasy, and she was standing by a white limousine in front of the Veneto in Panama. The Veneto from time to time throws its doors open to freelancers, and becomes like an upscale Del Rey, but only during the night and with less women. I'd pay $180 for a room at the Veneto, it's a nice hotel. But there's no way I'd pay $180 at the DR.

Fantasy

10-16-08, 19:45

The factual story as he told it was him getting dropped in an alley. You decided to change it to a "dark alley". Perhaps you were just pointing out more factual errors I have made. After looking back at some of your Posts, It seems you have had many "dance " partners. You just can't seem to leave someone elses post alone.

Prolijo

10-16-08, 20:56

Once again Fantasy you're absolutely correct and I'm absolutely wrong. You didn't say DARK alley. I only ASSUMED this event occurred at night (as most such incidents seem to do) and that as a result the alley was dark. The only other alternative would be that crime in SJ has gotten so bad that these things now happen as often in broad daylight. Besides, you did also say that "he jumped into a cab to return to his hotel one night. The cab took him about 6 blocks and turned into an alley." and it seemed logical to assume that it didn't take all night and into the morning to drive those 6 blocks. Either way, does such a detail of whether the alley was dark or not really make any real difference in how dramatic the event was, which was really my whole point? You're just nitpicking now. My comments in my last post all went directly to the main point of your preceding post which was who is putting words in whose mouth.

You're also right that I've had more than my share of dance partners on this board. All that proves is that you're not the only guy who is "basically an asshole" (to use your own self description). The difference between me and them is that I don't lead in that dance. I didn't address you here. You ("know it all") and Katouey ("troll") started in with the personal attacks on me before I even addressed either of you directly. So how is that my fault?

Unfortunately, there are a lot of assholes on this board. There are also a lot of really decent guys like Jazz and WorldTraveler and even Mangera and Tiny12 (who agrees with me about HDR pricing) who have enough sense not to engage in this fight. I'll take my lead from them and leave you to dance with yourself and do what I've been suggesting everyone do in each of my last few posts - stick to the topics of real concern to everyone, express my views and respect those of others without making any personal attacks. Do you think you can do the same? Either way this will be the last of my replies to you on this subject.
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Mangera,
A horrible economy in the US, means fewer mongers going down, those going down making fewer trips and spending less on each trip and that means lower demand. Bad economic times in CR and everywhere else means more chicas from CR and neighboring countries plying the trade and (if that means less money per trick) putting in longer hours and more nights at the BM. Add to that temporary closures at various MPs and probably less business at them as well further adds to the numbers of chicas trying their hand at places like the BM. All that means greater supply at the BM. Put that together and there has to be more movement on the downward side of prices.

That doesn't mean that they've stopped initially asking for cien or that there still isn't any downward stickiness in negotiations. These gals have never shown the greatest business acumen when they've held out for cien in the past, turning down several lower priced offers and often winding up going home with an empty pocket. It may be a pride/ego thing as much as anything else but many of them are not as quick to realize the economic realities as purely rational market forces would have you believe.

It is also interesting to note that the rates at several of the more popular MP's, such as IDEM or ZB/LH (w/o the CRT discount) have actually gone UP in recent months not down. With inflation being what it is in CR, there may be only so far that any of these businesses and individuals can afford to lower their prices.

JazzPlayer

10-17-08, 01:53

Hi,

I'm in CR tomorrow night, nice. I really like starting out with two stops Saturday morning about 10: 30. 11:00AM to my fave massejes.

Kama Sutra usually has five or more chicas. The rooms have beds on the floor but all have windows and are airy. One of my longtime favoritas is there, Carolina, and she always aims to please. It's out a ways from the gulch Avendia 5 and Calle 38, non-descript tan building on the left.

My other favorite first stop is Venus Massje. It's just below Ingelesia Santa Terisita on the street at the bottom of the bridge. Four new girls last time and Carolina moved to Kama Sutra. The rooms at Venus are really quiet and breezy.

Both are 18, 000c for an hour and there is never a knock.

These are off the path massajes, excellent service, nice cute chicas, safe, really my favorite type compared to the wholesale NF and HLH.

I hope I don't regret giving up that info

Regards,

Lifetime ignorant monger (jazz)

Prolijo

10-17-08, 13:58

JP,
I wouldn't worry about a big surge in business ruining these places. It may be news to ISG readers but its already been out there on CRT for quite some time now. And a lot of the other guys around here lately seem to prefer sticking nearly exclusively to the tried and true like the BM/KL or ZB/LH. OTOH, maybe the CRT publicity already is having the effect you feared. Are the prices at these places really up to 18K now? I heard they had recently gone up but just a year ago they were only in the 13-14K range.

These directions might add more help for the "navigationally challenged":

The Kama Sutra directions JP gave were pretty good. For a nearby landmark, you could tell the taxista the Hotel Torremolinos since KS is literally right next door. And if nothing there strikes your fancy there are lots of other popular MP's not too far away in that Paseo Colon area (e.g. Veronicas, Oasis and its sister MP across from the bingo place whatever thats called now).

Re Venus: I'm not too sure most guys around here would be able to figure out "below Iglesia Santa Teresita". To give them a better idea, this is in the Aranjuez neighborhood which is the area to the east of the SL and Hotel Amistad. You could walk there from those places but it is a pretty long walk. From the SL area go to the end of Avenida 9 (near the Cafe Mundo), turn left and go 3 blks to the end and then turn right (Ave 11), go 5 more blks and turn left on Calle 23 (1blk n of the church). This is the main street and only one that goes down and crosses the little river that passes thru SJ on this side of town (the bridge JP was talking about). Venus is 2 blks down on a side street (Avenida 15) to the right just before you get to the river. What is that, 10 blks or ~1km? Come to think of it, I like to walk but most guys will probably want to take a cab (tell the guy "trescientos metros de norte y veinticinco metros del este de la Iglesia Santa Teresita"). Once you're there look for the 1st unit of a green and white 3 unit building on the north (left) side of the avenida. Unfortunately, I don't know of any other MP's in that area to turn to if the selection at Venus turns out to be unacceptable, maybe JP can add further help in that area.

Fantasy

10-18-08, 02:15

She was $80.00 all night. We had breakfast at Manolos across the street from the Veneto, and I never saw her again!

ChiliMike

10-18-08, 16:11

With my return trip to San Jose in less than 30 days. I come to this site in hope of reading, what the girls are charging, are the bars full of girls, are the mp's open, and how safe things are. All questions that have girls involded with them. This is what this site for. Please take the fighting somewhere else. I am sick of it! If you must fight or have the need to prove who threw the first stone or who called who what. Please do it with I'm'S this site is about girls and information to be shared about. Girls and trip reports.

Tom27

10-18-08, 20:13

I just got back 3 weeks ago. As usual the girls asked for $100.00. I never paid more than $60.00, I kid you not. There were so many girls that they immediately dropped their price.

Also I found that the Zona Blue is no more, teplaced by a place named Havana. Terrible selection, we left without partaking.

With my return trip to San Jose in less than 30 days. I come to this site in hope of reading, what the girls are charging, are the bars full of girls, are the mp's open, and how safe things are. All questions that have girls involded with them. This is what this site for. Please take the fighting somewhere else. I am sick of it! If you must fight or have the need to prove who threw the first stone or who called who what. Please do it with I'm'S this site is about girls and information to be shared about. Girls and trip reports.

Tom27

10-18-08, 20:16

I paid $80.00 for a standard room at the Del Rey 3 weeks ago. I think the price that was quoted was for one of the suites on the top floor.

Can this be right? 3rd week in Oct 08 and with tax it is like 180 for a single standard room. Is this right or am I being taken?

Prolijo

10-18-08, 20:19

CM,
Re: actually getting back to talking about chicas, I thought that was what I was doing in my post yesterday when I added useful info on to Jazzplayer's post concerning those 2 tico MP's and that was followed by 3 seperate inflammatory posts by Fantasy all digging up crap from the past. IMHO, Katouey got it wrong who the troll is here. I'm just responding to personal attacks. You guys are right that I should just let it go, but that is a lot easier to say when it is not directed against you. No one would be happier than me if we could ALL really just get back to sharing useful info on chicas (instead of just talking about doing that).

Caffrey

10-20-08, 06:00

Hello Tom:

I am planning my trip in Nov. How much time you get for the $60 for DR girls. Do they allow multiple pops. Looking forward to you trip report. Which is the best MP if ZB is terrible.

I just got back 3 weeks ago. As usual the girls asked for $100.00. I never paid more than $60.00, I kid you not. There were so many girls that they immediately dropped their price.

Also I found that the Zona Blue is no more, teplaced by a place named Havana. Terrible selection, we left without partaking.

Prolijo

10-20-08, 13:39

Caff,
How much that $60 buys (or whether you even agree on $50, $60, $70 or whatever) depends on your negotiating skills. If you don't specify the chica will probably interpret $60 as until you cum and then she's out the door. In fact, a game some vets play is to bet on how quickly some of the most notorious barracuda hotties in the school of fish we call the BM wind up back in the bar after reeling in some of the greenhorn angler/mongers and disappearing up the stairs (how is that for mixed metaphors?). The record for some is well under 20 minutes (which includes time spent going up and down the stairs, getting dressed and undressed, taking care of payment in advance:(, freshening up afterwards, etc.).

When you "negotiate" with the chicas you should try to nail down more than just the price but other things like "por una hora entera" (for a full hour), "muchos orgasmos para usted y para mí también" (many orgasms for you and for me too), "chúpeme sin un condón" (BBBJ) and "sólo (or siempre) pago al fin" (I only (or always) pay at the end). Its better still if you can work these things into your conversation with her at the bar, rather than firing them off like some job interview, thereby changing the tone of your interaction to more of a business deal rather than a GFE (even though it always really is a business deal). Naturally, the better your spanish is the easier this will all be. You'd be surprised how far even just a little spanish can go when combined with their english and choice use of hand gestures and body language. But the more spanish you can pick up before you go is always the better.

BTW, it is not just what you say before that matters but what you do afterwards. There is an expresssion "Never pay them for sex, pay them to leave." Unlike the mistake that some guys make that I mentioned above, you should always pay at the end of the session (except at some MP's) and then pay fully what was agreed upon if she delivered as agreed (plus a tip IF you so choose). Never pay at the beginning. If you pay in the beginning of your session, the chica might "forget" all the finer details of your agreement including that its not over if you pop 5 minutes later. And, if that happens and she starts to dress, what can you really do about it?

OTOH, if you haven't yet given her any money and she insists you pay first, you can just tell her to leave with nada (which usually gets her to change her mind). Or, if she starts doing something for you but decides to leave before you've gotten everything you asked for ahead of time, you can refuse to pay the full amount. In that situation, coming to a mutually agreed settlement could be a little sticky but, again, usually will get her to get back into her work. Finally on this point I should add that when any of these things happen it can put a real crimp on the GFE and you might decide to cut the session short anyway (again paying a fair amount for whatever she did deliver) HOWEVER if you've made your selection carefully anything worse than a brief request for advance payment should not happen that often.

Re: "Which is the best MP if ZB is terrible". It should be pointed out that a lot of guys might disagree with the premise of that question because they think ZB/LH is great. Like Tom, I don't happen to be one of those guys and have found myself walking in and out of ZB on several occasions. So, which is "best" is completely a matter of opinion and subject to YMMV. However, when it comes to ANY of these places it ALSO largely comes down to timing. Who they've had working at these places lately when you go down? Who is on shift and who is taking that day off or hasn't arrived yet the day you go? Who happens to be busy in the back when you get there and what is left over in the waiting room?

This is even more true of the lower end tico MP's that have rates as little as half of what places like ZB/LH or IDEM charge. OTOH, if you're not busy going off on tours around the countryside and/or you don't have the stamina for non-stop 24-hour sexual marathons, then the one thing you have plenty of during the day in SJ is time. This is why so many guys don't mind taking a stroll and popping their heads into various MP's over the course of a morning or afternoon (or even just an hour or two). You never know when or where you'll find that diamond in the rough or needle in the haystack (though the odds are not anywhere nearly so bad as that metaphor suggests). Sometimes they even get lucky and find something they like at the first place they stop but it is not uncommon (particularly with the lower end places) to have to check out several places before that happens.

Prolijo

10-20-08, 15:14

2666,
Is that a trick question or perhaps did you mean the Key Largo? I know we've had our differences but whatever else I've thought of you I've always felt you were an extremely knowledgeable guy when it came to the SJ scene (and I mean that as a sincere compliment).

I always thought that Del Rey and the Blue Marlin bar is open 24 hours. In fact it says right on their home page "Our Del Mar Restaurant, Casino and the World Famous Blue Marlin Bar are open 24 hours." And there is always someone at the hotel front desk. Did the authorities recently shut them down for handicap ramps or something and I didn't hear about it :)? The Key Largo (also owned by the HDR) is a slightly different story. It is open from 8 pm till the small hours but doesn't really get going until around 10PM when the live music starts.

But I know you already knew all that.

JuiceGuy

10-20-08, 17:38

I will be in CR the first week of December and I am just curious to know if the lagging world economy is effecting prices in CR?

JuiceGuy

10-20-08, 17:38

Literally 24/7. From food and beverages to chicas and everything in between.

anyone know what time the Del Rey opens?

Thanks in advance

Fantasy

10-20-08, 21:45

After seeing her at HDR on about eight different trips in the past 18 months or so I finally had to see what she was all about. Those of you who have seen my photos over the years will be scratching your heads at this one, but something made me do it. With her Many piercings (including her pussy) and too's everywhere, i was ready for a very rough session. She turned out to be one of the softest, most likeable *****s I have ever fucked. Now we are friends, and always speak. She even bought me a beer!! She never wears a bra, and the sight of her natural tits as she came out of the shower wearing only a towel was unforgetable. Her overall looks leave her solo without a client on many occassions, but I can highly recommend her for a night when you are in the mood for a change from the normal colombiana hot air balloon!

3 hours.............................$75.00
(on September 29th)

Tiny 12

10-21-08, 00:40

She was $80.00 all night. We had breakfast at Manolos across the street from the Veneto, and I never saw her again!

Wow!!! If her performance was anything like her looks that was the bargain of the century.

ChiliMike

10-21-08, 02:38

Fantasy. Let me tell you about her. I have seen her at the delrey for years and has the hottest looking belly of any girl in the delrey also her photos are all over the crt in the old photos. Any way one night she sees me checking her out like I always do (but never pull the trigger) she walks right up to me and asks "why don't you fuck me" I sat there in shock! She left and I was on a mission to do her. I said if I find her I am doing her. She won't come off 80 (good job on the 75) please tell more if you can, and as you said never wears a bra, I just know those tits are perfect.

Fantasy

10-22-08, 13:51

I enjoyed it! Her tits are second to NO girl I have ever fucked. Simply a work of art. She has no kids (of course), a Tica and 23 years young. She has braces, but will give a carefull Uncovered BJ if pressed! (Ouch).... Tight Pussy, Anal is out of the question. Small gold ring in her Pussy Lip, No toes missing, nails looked manicured, What else can I say, If you are into this crazy look (as I was), than fuck her! She had no problems with Nudes, but I do not post Nude Photos at all, period. Hope this helps..........

Dan D Dick

10-23-08, 01:16

I share this to help the others who might visit here or any other similar location.

I'm 56 y/o semi-retired, do independent consulting, travel a lot (entered into foreign countries 37 times last year & spent 219 nights in hotels; this year will be about the same). I'm not new to SJO, this is my 11th time here this year & I have a 31 y/o novia who's teaching me Spanish. I have 25 years experience in law enforcement so though I'm old & grey I'm pretty familiar with the other side's mentality.

We were walking hand-in-hand from the Sleep Inn down the hill to Avenida Central at 11:30 this morning. I typically wear my gringo camisa (brightly colored shirt) & long cargo pants. Even without the gringo shirt it's clear I'm a gringo with my face color & shape and my blue eyes. Even though my Spanish is vastly improved over a year ago, it's obvious it's not my native language. My novia said my shirt choice made no difference because of the other obvious-gringo issues I can't control.

Within less than two seconds my novia's senses went off, she looked over her left shoulder & pulled me a bit to the right. Two hands went in my pockets at the same time - my right rear pocket with my wallet & my right front pocket. Two young men were involved. Before I could be certain what had happened they were 50 ft down the hill but my first reaction was to make sure my novia was okay. No practical way to catch them. And probably no sensible reason to do so anyway.

Bottom line - I lost C20K ($40USD) or so from my right front pocket. He didn't get my wallet out because I wear cargo pants (Magellan from Academy Sports) that have a bit of velcro in them to latch them down. I also carry a 2nd wallet when I travel that's snake skin which tends to stick to the fabric. I use it for that reason. That wallet had about $10 US in it, my CRT card, a SL business card & a xerox of my passport photo page & police ID. They didn't get the wallet. I had about $400 stuffed in other cargo pockets (had just changed some money) & that wasn't touched.

It seemed the 10 or so people that saw what happened all were good citizens & concerned; they just didn't have time to react. No complaints with them. My novia immediately removed her earrings & asked me to put them in my shirt pocket. She was MUCH more upset than I was; I had planned for this ~ I just didn't expect it then ~ & all they got was my C1K notes and C2K notes for cabs & propinas.

Bottom line recommendations (these are the standard ones)

1) Don't carry all your stuff even in broad daylight on a busy street. Leave it in the room safe.
2) Have a throw-down wallet with little in it
3) Have your throw-down wallet reasonably protected (like snake skin & velcro)
4) split your money up between pockets
5) I don't care how fast you are, these are opportunistic criminals - they'll be faster

Now for a few changes....as recommended by my novia

1) If you're a gringo, do NOT carry a wallet at all. They know you're a gringo & therefore you're rich (her words). If they see the outline of the wallet, that's where the money is & you'll get hit even if it's a decoy. Kinda like getting robbed for a fake Rolex. Makes sense & I never thought of it that way before. She said she thought they just saw a gringo then looked & saw the mark of a wallet on the back pocket. After that the deal was done.

2) In my case one guy had his hands in & out of my pockets in about one second or less & the other guy was "security". Okay, I saved my throw-down wallet but probably would have avoided the issue altogether if I didn't carry a wallet. In fact I lost more from my propina pocket than I had in my decoy wallet.

3) In my case my prep work with multiple pockets & splitting the money paid off. I also had left my cell phone in the room or it would have been gone too (right front pocket).

From now on I'll not have any wallet on me; I'll get my passport copies put in a small plastic holder (like they put your room keys in at the hotels) & I should be fine. I'll also keep the larger bills in flap-type cargo pockets on my off-side like I usually do. These guys hit both my strong-side pockets in a flash.

Hope this helps out there. Again, for me it was pretty much a non-issue; nobody got hurt & what I lost was insignificant to me. It's also the first time I've ever been "robbed" like this in my life but it showed me there's still room to improve your practices. My novia couldn't walk 50 ft afterwards without looking over her shoulder. I often do that ~if~ suspect something but I don't care to go through life scared either. So I'll abandon the wallet altogether & move on. Otherwise it seems most of my normal practices paid off.

This newsflash was FYI and was intended to be constructive. I have no interest in entering into debates over what I might have done "wrong" (my apologies to 99% of the guys out there; I just get tired of some of the non-constructive dialogues on this site).

Other constructive ideas would be appreciated though the basics worked pretty well this morning.

/dddick

Toadtamer2

10-23-08, 01:41

Thanks for sharin that.

Makes you realize how vulnerable you really are in a foreign country.

World Travel 69

10-23-08, 01:52

Sorry to here what happen. At least you are OK.
Here is something of interest. Instead of carrying your passport or photocopy while walking around, the Government has a new ID Passport Card.

http://travel.state.gov/passport/pp..._card_3926.html

I share this to help the others who might visit here or any other similar location.

/dddick

ChiliMike

10-23-08, 03:08

Hey Dan,

I'm glad you are ok. I to got robbed but they got 90. 00 from me and my sence of saftey will be gone forever, thanks for sharing and with my trip less than 20 days away. I will use your post to keep me on guard even more.

Thanks

JazzPlayer

10-23-08, 05:33

I'm in love with CR...still.

Plenty of chicas Friday night, but many dudes, nonetheless gold was to be found. I enjoyed two delights Friday night and was up and ready for the 9:AM rounds. The two rails were as full of little darlins as any time I've seen in the last three years.

I would say at least fifty percent new talent. Many, many 9's and 8's.

Sunday I had a special twosome treat with Wanda and Hellen. Turns out Wnada is karaoke singer and we sang out tunes like guantonamera and la bamba up on the balcony. What fun with those chicas.

I still don't care what anyone says about the shabby rooms at the Del Rey, it is ground zero. I'll stay there any day. Bill never has any freakin rooms available anyway. He told me to keep try

All the chicas discussed a downturn in travel for the last twenty days. I really did not notice it. There seemd to be a lot of girls and a lot of dudes.

Regards,

Jazz/

Prolijo

10-23-08, 06:41

DDD,
First of all, I TOO am sorry to hear of your misfortune. Not "I for one", but I'm sure ALL of us are. However, I don't think you posted this looking just for sympathy anymore than any criticism.

Your story certainly is "dramatic", but I don't see how that makes it a bad story or one that should not be told. Quite the opposite. It also may not be "typical" in the sense that most of the robbery stories you hear usually involve guys who fail to take all the precautions you took. But I think that is exactly why your own story is so important. It shows that even if you do everything right (or even nearly everything), things like that can still happen. The best ANY of us can do is improve our odds and minimize our possible losses but never completely eliminate them.

Frankly, its hard to see anything you really did wrong. Your ideas to fine tune your tactics are just that - fine tuning. They might have reduced the chances of what happened to you or at least minimized the consequences, but if so I don't think by much. You were already wisely doing all the major things that any guy should do.

So here are my "constructive ideas", if you can call them that, starting with the ones you already mentioned:

1) Do all the things you were doing here,

2) Try to remember to do the few minor things you think you slipped up on,

3) And, sure while you're at it, add in the other new ideas you mentioned

PLUS

4) Accept the fact that no matter how many new ideas we come up with, all of us will at times slip up and let down our guard or forget some critical measure, no matter how "smart" or security conscious we think we are (it can happen to the best of us)

5) Realize that even if you do absolutely everything you thought of before and everything we might dream up now, the best any of us can do is reduce our chances of getting hit or losing much if we do. Again, we can never totally eliminate all risk. Starting to think one has got on some sort of bulletproof vest by itself is an invitation to a nasty surprise, eventually.

6) And, finally, most of any further things you might do to reduce your risks will come with trade-offs. For example, you could look back over your shoulder every 2 seconds, take cabs everywhere you go even if it is only 1 block during the day, or avoid bad areas like all of downtown San Jose altogether, but I don't think anyone here would seriously want to do any of that.

Of course, I'm exaggerating a bit with those last few examples, but you see my point. Everyone needs to find their own balancing point between simply prudent safety precautions and becoming so paranoid about things that it detracts from their enjoyment of being there, between cost/convenience and risk/consequence. I hope that this experience makes you a little more cautious and safe but at the same time not so nervous about going around SJ that spoils your time while there.

Prolijo

10-23-08, 14:42

... Don't we all.........

Some here would call your story "dramatic" and not typical but I for one appreciate your information ...
Please stop clogging up the thread with your nonsense.

PM each other if you want to have a one on one conversation.
Fantasy,
In case you missed it, the post from Msaisme was directed at the "KiddieS" (plural) which includes BOTH of us and I'm certain reflects the attitude of the VAST majority of the board. Since it was posted, I've tried to stop and let it go, but here it is 3 days later and you're still playing with matches with these obvious references to our previous (and I thought dead) dispute. I HAD let you get what I THOUGHT would be the last word 3 full days ago (actually 2 last words since you took 2 posts to do it). Since then I've made at least 8 constructive posts to other members without so much as a veiled reference about you until this latest post of yours. I'd like to continue to do that.

Unfortunately, your PM box is either full or somehow turned off so I'm left with no alternative but to post this here. Fantasy, PLEASE grow up, let it go and move on. That is what I've been trying to do. If you feel you absolutely have to respond to this, then PM me directly and spare everyone else your little jibes.

Prolijo

10-23-08, 17:07

I still don't care what anyone says about the shabby rooms at the Del Rey, it is ground zero. I'll stay there any day. Bill never has any freakin rooms available anyway. He told me to keep try

All the chicas discussed a downturn in travel for the last twenty days. I really did not notice it. There seemd to be a lot of girls and a lot of dudes.Starting from your last comment, I hate to be a doom and gloom sayer, but could that just be the last hurrah of the guys who booked their flights before the latest market upheavals? How soon will many of those guys be coming back? I'm not saying I know the answer to those questions. Also, it may not just be about how many chicas and gringos are IN the bar. How frequently were those chicas and gringos LEAVING the bar together? Were guys shopping around more carefully before they pulled the trigger? And how far did they push (and chicas let them push) in negotiating their prices? I think the chicas are in the best position to evaluate because they're the ones that see the bottom line (in their own pocketbooks). OTOH, chicas always like to complain about money.

Regarding the first part of that quote, at the risk of rehashing a worn out topic, I'd like to offer a few new (or at least less discussed) aspects of it.

1) Like I think we've said before these are all just opinions. You shouldn't care what other people think about a hotel if YOU like it. If you prefer to stay in "shabby rooms" and others prefer to compete over the few available rooms at the SL, how is one siding hurting the other? In fact, those guys competing over SL rooms should actually be glad that you're one monger who prefers to stay somewhere else.

2) Here is just a thought. If the SL is always so full and so many guys are still willing to go to the extra bother of booking far in advance and the HDR much more often has space to put you despite its much wider fame, isn't that by itself saying something about the relative desirability of these places for many guys.

3) I hesitate to suggest this because it may raise a firestorm of protest by the fans of the SL and I'm not even saying I would want it to happen, but if rooms are that scarce at the SL maybe Bill should really raise the prices. That's just Econ 101, excess demand over supply. If Bill raises his rates judiciously supply and demand will eventually reach some equilibrium where the place is still mostly always full but Bill is not turning away so many guys (and thus making more money for himself as well). At some point, the prices relative to the benefits of the place will be too much for some of the guys who will turn to other places (perhaps the HDR) while those who continue to stay there will be the ones who are most stuck on the place and willing to pay the higher rates. OTOH, do the much higher rates at the HDR (considering room quality) reflect demand or are they pricing themselves so that there is much more often excess supply?

4) I've said this before that there are more than just 2-3 hotels to stay at in SJ, but I'd add this new wrinkle. If the SL is booked up for all or part of your stay or even if you're a HDR habitué, why not experiment with a different place for at least 1-2 nights of your stay or, if you're a regular CR visitor, even just every few trips. You might just find some place that doesn't have "over-priced shabby rooms" or rooms that you have to book a year in advance and that might become your new favorite.

Acenva

10-24-08, 02:02

Starting from your last comment, I hate to be a doom and gloom sayer, but could that just be the last hurrah of the guys who booked their flights before the latest market upheavals? How soon will many of those guys be coming back? I'm not saying I know the answer to those questions. Also, it may not just be about how many chicas and gringos are IN the bar. How frequently were those chicas and gringos LEAVING the bar together? Were guys shopping around more carefully before they pulled the trigger? And how far did they push (and chicas let them push) in negotiating their prices? I think the chicas are in the best position to evaluate because they're the ones that see the bottom line (in their own pocketbooks). OTOH, chicas always like to complain about money.

Regarding the first part of that quote, at the risk of rehashing a worn out topic, I'd like to offer a few new (or at least less discussed) aspects of it.

1) Like I think we've said before these are all just opinions. You shouldn't care what other people think about a hotel if YOU like it. If you prefer to stay in "shabby rooms" and others prefer to compete over the few available rooms at the SL, how is one siding hurting the other? In fact, those guys competing over SL rooms should actually be glad that you're one monger who prefers to stay somewhere else.

2) Here is just a thought. If the SL is always so full and so many guys are still willing to go to the extra bother of booking far in advance and the HDR much more often has space to put you despite its much wider fame, isn't that by itself saying something about the relative desirability of these places for many guys.

3) I hesitate to suggest this because it may raise a firestorm of protest by the fans of the SL and I'm not even saying I would want it to happen, but if rooms are that scarce at the SL maybe Bill should really raise the prices. That's just Econ 101, excess demand over supply. If Bill raises his rates judiciously supply and demand will eventually reach some equilibrium where the place is still mostly always full but Bill is not turning away so many guys (and thus making more money for himself as well). At some point, the prices relative to the benefits of the place will be too much for some of the guys who will turn to other places (perhaps the HDR) while those who continue to stay there will be the ones who are most stuck on the place and willing to pay the higher rates. OTOH, do the much higher rates at the HDR (considering room quality) reflect demand or are they pricing themselves so that there is much more often excess supply?

4) I've said this before that there are more than just 2-3 hotels to stay at in SJ, but I'd add this new wrinkle. If the SL is booked up for all or part of your stay or even if you're a HDR habitué, why not experiment with a different place for at least 1-2 nights of your stay or, if you're a regular CR visitor, even just every few trips. You might just find some place that doesn't have "over-priced shabby rooms" or rooms that you have to book a year in advance and that might become your new favorite.

I have used Bill's services the last couple trips and never have a reservation and just show up. I was not turned away at the end of September. Even a friend I meet down there got a room when he just showed up no reservations. The best times are during the week and not just for a long weekend.

Just my 2 cents