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I've had outstanding threesomes (with lesbian sex and kissing between the girls) during my last three visits to Hong Kong Club. Very easy each time.
Step 1. Pick a hot girl and test her in the booth by making out. Approx $7 for her drink and $4 for yours. French kissing or your finger deep in her pussy means she's a fun girl.
Step 2. Ask her if she likes girls. Tell her a threesome is your fantasy. If she's happy about it, take the next step. Otherwise, repeat Step 1 with another girl.
Step 3. Tell her to pick the other girl. I've typically paid $140. 160 for both girls. $22 (double price for double girls) for the room. In all cases, BOTH girls were the hottest girls in the club.
Step 4. I like to start the session by french kissing one girl, then french kissing the other, and finally french kissing both at once (three-way kiss). After that, I tell them to kiss each other. I then put my dick between them.
Step 5. At this point, it's reasonable to expect them to eat each other out.
Note: Most girls will require you to switch condoms when you switch girls. Some will not.
The last girl was so hot from me fucking her while the other girl was eating her out that she wanted us to get together outside of the club. Only two or three years ago, TJ girls seemed much more reluctant to make out with other girls. Now it's like they're all bi-sexual.
Thanks for the advice I will try it. Are there any places that they do sex shows regularly?? I would not mind seeing a sex show. Thanks
If you are trying to hide the chicas face in your last picture, you might want to block her reflection in the mirror. I see her. LOL
Good luck making out what she looks like with the 5x5 pixel area of her face, lol.
Thanks for the report and pics, its been forever since I last been to tj. Make my heart a little warm when I see it haha. Considering where I am at now.
Your welcome. And your right, as run down as the place is, it has a charm about it that gives off this feeling of being totally Tj.
Congrats FJL, now you're good through 2011. Nice report if a little wordy.
Thx corny.
Good luck making out what she looks like with the 5x5 pixel area of her face, lol.But it is only ten minutes away in photo suite.
Adding lines of resolution will bring it right back to life.
Thats how you blow pics up from small pics.
Just trying to warn you. Seriously
Street King
10-15-08, 14:47
I have been seeing a TJ girl for about 3 years. She got me thrown in the THe TJ jail. She has slapped me, and the time that got me put in jail she was taking it out on my car. She was very drunk. I subdued her and she made a big commotion at the motel. When the police arrived she lied and told them that I had choked her. They believed her.
If she gets as violent as the girl you reported on your post, and I believe it is ppossible. I would not see her again. I have business in Mexico as well as here. Would not be good to have my face scratched. I tried to message you but you cannot take messages. See if you can help me without revealing to much info. To others. I would really appreciate it. If it is her I will not call her back. Her working name starts with Est----- and her real name is Ken---. She is blond, about 5'4", 23 years old and flawless skin. Don't need to know where she works.
Thanks in advance,
Street King
I'm assuming it's tijuanagirlz.com
But from visiting the site, you're better off visiting the bars cause these look like the ugly street girls that you wouldn't do even if they paid you.Not all of them. :)
And some of them have very good reviews, for what it's worth.
Photography is not Aida's strong point.
Nonetheless, there are undoubtedly better looking girls, and better photography, on other escort sites.
But it is only ten minutes away in photo suite.
Adding lines of resolution will bring it right back to life.
Thats how you blow pics up from small pics.
Just trying to warn you. Seriously
I'm no photo editing expert, but I really doubt you can get a good figure of her true facial features from blowing that up and editing it with an enhancing program. Besides, girls that look similar to her are dime a dozen at AB. Good luck figuring out which one she is. Unless of course she wears that same dress, lol.
Honestly I don't care. She didn't tell me to not allow anyone to see her face or not upload her pic to the net. It was my decision completely to cover up her face. And I knew about the smaller reflection on the mirror. I left it in on purpose.
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"It was my decision completely to cover up her face".
yeah yeah you've belabored the point enough, such a fantasy. What were you trying to do? Emulate my "load in the hair" from that girl you imagined a "connection" with?
FireFox, maybe you should go back and appease her so she'll stop. How does that saying go, "there's no fury like a woman scorn."
Corny, wtf are you talking about? What load in the hair and what connection?
Hey guys is it safe to travel to TJ now days?
For the first time I am feeling a little Leary about going down. I have not been down in about 2 months and since then I have seen nothing but bad news reported just about every day now. be headings, Acid baths, shootings, kidnappings and harassment by the TJ police.....
I miss going down there and have been many time alone but I am now having second thoughts with all this bad stuff thats been going on.....
How has it been in the Zona? Do you all still feel safe going?
Street King
10-16-08, 06:15
She has a son named Stephen, a brother named christian, works in La Mesa (a suburb) of Tijuana, but not on the border) and sometimes tecate or rosarito. She loves to watch novela (what mexicana doesn't). Likes to say nothing o nothing (catch phrase). Always asking for money (what mexicana doesn't, LOL.) She has a white van. Anything ring a bell.
Thanks,
Street King
Locoaztec14
10-16-08, 06:42
Hey guys is it safe to travel to TJ now days?
For the first time I am feeling a little Leary about going down. I have not been down in about 2 months and since then I have seen nothing but bad news reported just about every day now. be headings, Acid baths, shootings, kidnappings and harassment by the TJ police.
I miss going down there and have been many time alone but I am now having second thoughts with all this bad stuff thats been going on.
How has it been in the Zona? Do you all still feel safe going?I was their about a week ago and had no problems. Walked the alleys freely day and nights. Their won't be any problems unless you go out looking for it. If your drug free you will be ok.
Street King
10-16-08, 16:17
You should tell everyone you know that your phone had been stolen. Maybe being used for extortion purposes, etc.
If you think the girl in question might be the one I know after my last post. Maybe you could tell me a few things about her. Such as what kind of mark is on her right thigh. Her uncles name. Where does her mother live? What tatoos does she have, Etc.
Thanks,
Street King
Hey guys is it safe to travel to TJ now days?
How has it been in the Zona? Do you all still feel safe going?
I was there last night. Walked from Revo and 7th. (the tequila festival) to the zona at around 9pm. No problems and nothing out of the ordinary.
As far as I've seen and heard the zona has not been affected by the cartel wars. My friend and I speculate that it might be "out of bounds" because the cartels want to protect it as one of the few areas where money is still being made since tourism is down so much. This assumes the cartels have their finger in the till in some places in the zona but that isn't an unreasonable assumption.
Country John
10-16-08, 22:21
Here's a little pointer for you high end cel phone holders out there. I think I posted this elsewhere but I don't remember where. When I lived State-Side I had a Sprint service (actually, I still have it) and a state-of the-art samsung i500 phone. The first one got ripped off (in TJ by a masero at Sr. Frogs) and I had it replaced under insurance. I also had and older Nokia brick that W2 used.
The nice customer service rep at Sprint told me that if I wanted to, I could switch phones when traveling into unfriendly territory and for almost a year, I'd call Sprint on Friday morning and ask them to switch phones for me so that while I was in Mexico I would not have to worry about losing the i500 again. She helped me program the Nokia witht he correct numbers so that when it booted up, it would log on properly.
It worked GREAT. They were very helpful and I the call to customer service took 5 minutes. They had the ESN of the other phone so all I had to do was call and say: "Please switch my service to the Nokia phone you have on my account please." They'd pull the levers and in about 10 minutes the nokia was alive with my original number.
I would tuck my i500 away and when I got to the border on the return, I'd call customer service and have them switch back. Very simple, no extra charge and no worries about losing an expensive phone.
As for you, Fire Fox, I feel your pain and it's not a majhor leap for anyone to understand that an expensive cel phone picked up off the street anywhere in SoCal would find it's way to Mexico in no time flat. Hopefully you backed up your data and can email your contacts with a story that they can believe.
Next time, take a rubber throw away with you, you'll be glad you did because this sort of thing will go on and on.
Be safe and be nice
Country John
Use the call forward feature on your good phone to send your calls to your cheaper phone.
This way they do not even have your real phone number if you lose the cheap phone while mongering.
Any numbers you might need to store simply reverse a couple numbers (maybe last two), the same way to all. You have the numbers, banditos do not have them.
Just another option to CJ 's.
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You should tell everyone you know that your phone had been stolen. Maybe being used for extortion purposes, etc.
If you think the girl in question might be the one I know after my last post. Maybe you could tell me a few things about her. Such as what kind of mark is on her right thigh. Her uncles name. Where does her mother live? What tatoos does she have, Etc.
Thanks,
Street KingWtf? Do you know her or are you a stalker or a detective LOL.
Supermonger2
10-17-08, 16:17
Because "Hell hath no wrath..." just for these events, if there is a girl that I am going to see more than once, I always get naked pictures. As time goes on, and the tequila flows, snap away as raunchy as you can. When the inevitable breakup occurs, you simply remind her of how friendly you would like things to be, and mention that not to worry, "Our private photos will remain private." They will understand.
How old are you Fire Fox?
If you don't mind me asking.
That should work on a normal decent family girl, but I doubt most hookers will considering having naked pictures of themselves spread around as a threat.
Going back to any abusive relationship is only asking for more trouble be it male or female.
Worse part is ,it will only escalate in intensity.
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Depeche Mode
10-19-08, 11:35
well everyone. its report time! this trip was super awesome and different. i think i'm in love! sadly.
just got back from tj (i drove). wow what a trip, did something i thought id never do. i'll start from the top.
day started like usual, i browed the web for porn (get myself excited), and almost gave in, but my buddy called and it sounded like he actually wanted to go. so i withheld. my buddy gets to my house and we get in my car and off we go to get money. i get about 200 bucks, just incase i wanna fuck twice. we left at 5:30 pm and arrived there at 7:30 pm. parked at the parking lot across from j and the b box. as i parked my friend said "oh shit" he forgot his bc. i was like fuck. he risked it and we decided to move forward, a decision he would later love.
we hail a taxi with ease, and tell the cabbie to take us to adelitas. we arrive and enter adelitas, my friend is there strictly for the hong kong go go dancer he talked to on our last trip. so i snag a chick and we go arriba. i swear she said 70 downstairs, so upstairs i gave her 70, she said "thank you for the tip" hmmm, she must have told me 60 downstairs, oh well. she was a 11/10 on the looks wise, which meant she was going to be a lame fuck, which i'm cool with, i understand that super hot chicks are lousy fucks. i finish and she was very polite, i would fuck again. oh lol could not help but think of this message board, when she made me wash my hands, she was blonde, i'm sure one of you guys have had the pleasure of her company.
i go back down stairs and me and my friend leave and go to hong kong. it was bumpin, lots of hotties but the go go dancers have not arrived. we leave and walk the zona. we go to chicago, dead as it was last time. we go up the street to were we see what look to be **** ladies of the night, some dude the spoke perfect english talks to us. we listen and poke fun.
we then walk to the alley. we receive a lot of cat calls and girls grab my arm, i love it. we then go to the tropic or tropical, whatever its called. it was pretty lame inthere. we then finally decide to give mermaids a try. they take us upstairs to the massage rooms. they line the girls up and tell us to choose. my friend chooses one so i choose one too. she thinks i don’t know spanish and asks the. host? idk the dude to ask me if i speak spanish i say yes. we pay the host 40 bucks for an hour massage. inside the room she says its gonna be 100 dollars for full service i shot back i only want a massage, she looks at me like i'm an astro zombie. tells me to strip and she massages, reluctantly. we chat and she is adorable. asks cute question about my tattoos and is just overall flirty god i loved it. i answered all her questions with ease. it felt like a genuine connection. lol during the massage i tell her that i had just fucked at adelitas. she gets jealous!
this is the part that i thought would never happen. we talk and she is really cool. she says stuff i don’t understand but play it off with a series of chuckles and si’s. she makes me touch/slap her ass and the makes me touch her tattoo which is by her snatch. btw i'm on my back the whole time, so when she gets tired of massaging she just lays on me. she then says something i don’t understand and sticks her tongue out, she shows me her tongue piercing. i show her mine. and she tasted yummy. she massages me for abit longer then says times up. i tip her and get dressed. i then tell her that i liked the kiss. we then mfk (medium french kiss), and she stuck her tongue out and i stuck mine out and we played sword fight, loved it. she asks when i'll be back i say 1 month she says really? i walk out my hair a mess, and my buddy tells me that he fucked his girl for an extra sixty dollars. i tell my friend my girl was dope. i may be falling for her.
we then go back to hong kong. the go go dancers have arrived. we sit and then my friend goes after her, she remembers him lol. we all sit upstairs and my friend is happy. he takes her to the tiny room for a dance, she gives a good dance and makes out with him. we hang for a bit more, then we make our exit. my friend promises her we would return on the 31st. oh i bought a real cool hong kong t shirt. we then made it back to the border at around 12am. very small line. the moment of truth approaches. my friend goes first, tells the border officer that he has no bc. the guy quietly tells him to bring it next time and my buddy is free! i go and get processed correctly. lol the funny part is my friend has. mexican traits heavily. anyway we go back to my car, my friend starts calling all his friends to tell them this was the best trip ever! i agreee. we leave and head to dennys.
all and all the damages were as followed:
50 gas
5 taxi
70 adelitas girl
12 room
1 tip
12 cover for hong kong, i paid for my friends
40 massage at mermaids
20 tip for girl i might be falling for
20 hong kong tshirt lol i know i got ripped off
10 parking back at the border
190 total wow ridiculous…..note to self…next time have a true plan.
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All and All the damages were as followed:
50 gas
5 Taxi
70 Adelitas girl
12 Room
1 Tip
12 Cover for Hong Kong, I paid for my friends
40 Massage at Mermaids
20 Tip for girl I might be falling for
20 Hong Kong Tshirt LOL I know I got ripped off
10 Parking back at the border
190 Total Wow ridiculous…..Note to self…Next time have a true plan.
Ridiculous is right, because it was actually $240.
And what's with your friend going around telling everyone? You're married, this kind of stuff should be kept confidential. As for that HK shirt, I'd get rid of it before it's seen by someone you wouldn't want seeing it.
Mermaids huh? Isn't that right across the street from AB? Nice report. Will you go see the girl from Mermaids again?
Ridiculous is right, because it was actually $240.
And what's with your friend going around telling everyone? You're married, this kind of stuff should be kept confidential. As for that HK shirt, I'd get rid of it before it's seen by someone you wouldn't want seeing it.
Mermaids huh? Isn't that right across the street from AB? Nice report. Will you go see the girl from Mermaids again?I believe he miss spoke one time and used the term "wife" to describe his girlfriend. Very common among buddies.
All his reports ( except the one ) indicate single which his no big deal.
If he is not then he soon will be at the rate and direction he is going.
Great report by him for sure.
Depeche Mode
10-19-08, 22:47
Lol sorry about the wrong math.
Yeah, I know I gotta keep this on the DL. I'll tell my friend to be more quiet. Dude I've always wanted a tj tshirt. I'll just keep it in my car.
Yea its the little dump right across from AB. Dude that place sucks, but hey I found a connection. I think she liked the fact that I did not want to fuck, you know something different LOL. And yea. Ima see her again real soon, can't stop thinkin about her. I never thought I would be like this.
http://www.ac-markets.com/forex-resources/currency-converter.aspx
Had you used peso you would have saved close to $40 US. Gas money!
What you and your buddies spent= serious savings
Add this to your plan next time.
Locoaztec14
10-20-08, 05:37
Mermaids, never been their before but are their hot chicks their?
How is the selection?
Country John
10-20-08, 17:31
Lol sorry about the wrong math.
Yeah, I know I gotta keep this on the DL. I'll tell my friend to be more quiet. Dude I've always wanted a tj tshirt. I'll just keep it in my car.
Yea its the little dump right across from AB. Dude that place sucks, but hey I found a connection. I think she liked the fact that I did not want to fuck, you know something different LOL. And yea. Ima see her again real soon, can't stop thinkin about her. I never thought I would be like this.
Never lose sight of the fact that you are a client first. Watch yourself. Be careful. I'm not sure that she liked the fact that you didn't want to fuck. She lost between $60 and $100 on the gig. She is there to make money, not friends. Her demeanor was probably more geard towards getting you to pop for a pop. She is an expert at finding your soft spot. It's about the money.
I hate to spit in your soup, but you need to just make a note that she is someone you want to screw. Nothing more. So think about that, not her.
Got it?
Good.
Country John
Don't completely burst his bubble.
It's not entirely impossible that she didn't like him. Maybe she did. Although, the chance of that is very slim given her experience on how to treat Johns. But I guess thats up to DM to find out.
Keep us updated on what happens.
Don't completely burst his bubble.
It's not entirely impossible that she didn't like him. Maybe she did. Although, the chance of that is very slim given her experience on how to treat Johns. But I guess thats up to DM to find out.
Keep us updated on what happens.Does this remind you of your experience with a chica? Kinda remember you with a broken heart over a chica in TJ.
Are you talking about Mermaids? LOL. Those chicks wear those school outfits. Usually those girls just give massages and stuff.
Country John
10-21-08, 17:44
Don't completely burst his bubble.
It's not entirely impossible that she didn't like him. Maybe she did. Although, the chance of that is very slim given her experience on how to treat Johns. But I guess thats up to DM to find out.
Keep us updated on what happens.
Like I said, I don't want to spit into anyone's soup.
Mongers go to the Zona to buy sex because that's what the deal in the Zona is. A monger has about a 1 in 100 chance of hooking up with miss wonderful.
I would stronly advise against looking for love in the Zona. There are, of course, ways of going about it if you are serious, but you need to do it right and don't be stupid. The results can ruin your life as it has for so many other guys.
Yes, I would discourage it. Keep it light, keep it professional. Stay out of trouble.
Country John
German God
10-22-08, 00:29
Head to San Diego next week for work and was wondering how safe it is to cross the border for some fun. Been down there several times mostly to visit AB but I havent been in about a year. Anything I need to worry about? I hear all kinds of horror stories about kiddnapping and murders but I cant believe that this occurring in the tourist area. Also do I need to bring a passport now or can I still get across with my drivers license?
Thx for info.
Does this remind you of your experience with a chica? Kinda remember you with a broken heart over a chica in TJ.
I remember that. But it wasn't me. I forget the guy but I think he stopped posting a long time ago. I think he wanted to get the girl to come over to the U.S. but she just ended up using him or something.
I remember that. But it wasn't me. I forget the guy but I think he stopped posting a long time ago. I think he wanted to get the girl to come over to the U.S. but she just ended up using him or something.I thought this was you who fell for a chica.
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Head to San Diego next week for work and was wondering how safe it is to cross the border for some fun. Been down there several times mostly to visit AB but I havent been in about a year. Anything I need to worry about? I hear all kinds of horror stories about kiddnapping and murders but I cant believe that this occurring in the tourist area. Also do I need to bring a passport now or can I still get across with my drivers license?
Thx for info.Crime, Safety, and the Police reports
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1778
Depeche Mode
10-22-08, 12:39
Locoaztec14
Yea its right across the street from Adelitas. The selection is typical, on a scale of 1-10 mostly 7s and 8s. They all dress in School girl outfits and everytime I visit (twice, once I went in and left, second time was the most recent fun experience) the place is dead.
Country John
Like I said, the place is always dead. LOL I would not be surprised if I were the only person to have been with her all night. So the 40 bucks I gave her is better then nothing. LOL yea she did find my soft spot, little she devil!! Yea I use to think exactly like you, worst probably, I use to think these girls were basically fuck dolls, which I like. I never really talked to them, it was really robotic, just fuck and leave. But that was MY fault, they tried to talk and I just didnt think it was necessary. Now that I talked to one it shined a new light! Now I know why my buddy is always having fun talking to the girl.
Efjayel
Roger that, I will def. keep you guys informed as to what happens next time I go...LOL which is Hallows Eve!
Well IDK, Im not looking for a wife/gf. LOL I guess Im just looking for GFE...I just liked the way she made me feel, almost as good as sex.
............how safe it is to cross the border for some fun. B............ I hear all kinds of horror stories about kiddnapping and murders but I cant believe that this occurring in the tourist area. Also do I need to bring a passport now or can I still get across with my drivers license?A. Yes you need to bring your passport. German 'gods' will have trouble getting into the US. Maybe 'goddesses' would work better.
B. Yes there is all kinds of violence. But it is between the drug gangs. So do not buy, do not transport, do not touch do not even get close to that shi*t!
C. I have not heard of killings in the zona. Anyone is welcome to correct me if I am wrong. They always have strong police presence that harrasses mongers for this. But eventually that helps the clean mongers.
D. Do not travel too late. That is the biggest statistically important issue in my opinion.
God luck and have fun!
Country John
10-23-08, 17:58
Locoaztec14
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Country John
Like I said, the place is always dead. LOL I would not be surprised if I were the only person to have been with her all night. So the 40 bucks I gave her is better then nothing. LOL yea she did find my soft spot, little she devil!! Yea I use to think exactly like you, worst probably, I use to think these girls were basically fuck dolls, which I like. I never really talked to them, it was really robotic, just fuck and leave. But that was MY fault, they tried to talk and I just didnt think it was necessary. Now that I talked to one it shined a new light! Now I know why my buddy is always having fun talking to the girl.
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Then I believe I misunderstood.
Yes, by all means be nice to the girls. Talk to them and listen to them. They are people too. I'm in a relationship for over 3 years with a girl that I took out of a club. I know the game. Fortunately for me it's been a great experience, so it CAN be done.
But you seem to be looking for that GFE and talking it up with the girls and being nice to them is one way to get there. IF you find one that works, then give her your time and money. when you are done, you can move on.
Country John
I thought this was you who fell for a chica.
You got that wrong. I never fell for that girl. I liked her cause she does a really nice GFE. And I only got her number cause I wanted to try and be good friends with her to a point where she'd allow me to see her outside the club for dinner and extended sessions like an all nighter. But she was never interested, so I told her I wasn't going to try anymore and only see her in the club like she preffered. I never felt anything for her, except liking the GFE experience she gives.
I finally talked my wife into some sex tourism (she feels more comfortable that way, since no one knows us there). I want to act on this as soon as I can. Ideally we'd like a semi-pro girl, but we'll take what we can get. The first place that came to mind was Tijuana. At any rate, it's the closest place (and my wife doesn't have a passport, so land crossing there seems like the only option for now).
I've never been (my experience is in Dominican Republic, Philippines, Costa Rica), so I was wondering if some mongers could give me an idea of whether or not it was possible to find a girl into some girl on girl or 3-some action. Where should we look? Street girls? Adelitas?
I speak Spanish so that's no problem.
Thanks in advance.
I'd try the bars. Adelitas might be one to try but you can try any of the zona bars. Just ask. Whatever the case is, let us know the details :D
I think I would look for someone to come to my hotel room.
The bigger the party (# of people) the more time you need.
I think a min. of an hour or so to really get the feeling of a threesome.
I think looking the alley girls over to find one "she" likes would work better, then ask her to your room later. I would look around 4 or 5 pm to get one after work.
Escort are another option too.
It seems to me that an AB girl in their hotel would be too quick for your girl and you to enjoy but then again I do not know you two.
I would like to thank everyone for their contributions to this forum. The information I obtained here made this past week in Tijuana absolutely fun I went to Adelitas on Sunday afternoon and the selection of women was great and the bar wasn't too crowded. A perfect time to sit down, enjoy a couple of beers and enjoy the scenery before selecting a lovely lady.
Hit the zona a couple of other times in the week and tried a few street girls and a couple of other bars. I was like a kid in a candy shop. I envy you guys that live close to Tijuana. We have no such play place in Virginia.
Country John
10-30-08, 19:52
Glad you had a good time Beerman2. Sure is a fantasy land isn't it?
Rick Rock, here's what you do:
1. You and the little misses go to Adelitas and have a seat, order up a few beers, enjoy the sights and sounds etc.
2. You can ask a waiter for a girl that will go arriba with you and the misses, tell him you might want to meet a few and that he should bring another girl if you give him a signal. He knows who goes and who doesn't.
3. When the girl hits the booth, and you like her after the first 5 seconds, buy her a beer and interview her. Make it very clear that you and the misses want to take her up and re-assure her that it's safe and everyone will have a nice time. Explain what you want to do with her upstairs. Agree on everything including the fee. You can always ask her to go the hotel for a TLN with you and the misses, maybe after her shift etc.
4. She will charge more for the service than she would for a straight session, so be ready for that.
5. You and the misses enjoy a great session.
Be safe and be nice
Country John
Hi Everyone,
My buddy and I have enjoyed going to TJ once a month or so (we live in Los Angeles).
We have enjoyed meeting Street Girls, Girls at Adelitas, Hong Kong, and Las Chevales.
Are there bars or clubs in TJ where a gringo (who speaks decent but not perfect Spanish) can meet a non-working girl?
Are there bars where Latinas are going to meet Americans?
My friend and I are planning to go again to TJ this weekend, and I thought that we could try a different scene.
Thanks for your input and thoughts.
I appreciate all of the experiences shared on the forum.
SP
Depeche Mode
11-02-08, 07:07
Whats up boys!
Hey guys its me again, my friend and I went to Tijuana on Hallows eve. Heres the report:
Day started off nicely, I skipped work and awoke at around 12pm. My piercer buddy calls me up (I've been trying to get a hold of him, but he is as elusive as a wild tapir.) asks me if I wanna get pierced today, I accepted and met him at his house at around 4. I get home and my friend comes to my pad, we leave at about 7:15pm. Now the plan was to be at Hong Kong by 9 cause the girl my friend lusts for works as a Hong Kong Go go dancer and that’s the start of her shift. We did not make or DTA.
I drive the long 2hr drive from L. A. To Tijuana. We arrive and make our way to the taxi. We instruct him to take us to Hong Kong. My friend and I part ways. He enters Hong Kong I cross the street to Mermaids.
I am greeted by a tramp who tells me about Mermaids massage deal upstairs, I act coy and tell him to take me up. I get up there sit down and wait for the Presentation. LOL I see my chick, and immediately choose her. I pay the 40 bucks for the room/massage. She does not really recognize me at first but I ask and she remembers my tatts and my name. She starts her. Not so pro massage. We talk for a bit and I'm like fuck it. I ask how much to fuck, she says 60 I accept.
We get up and she undresses to bra, g string, and knee high boots. We start making out, how lovely! I take her bra off and we start missionary. Kissing and fucking, the best! I finished doggie style. Then we laid on the bed, made out some more and chatted. After more then an hour it was time to go, I pay and give her my last kiss. I leave somewhat. Unimpressed but happy.
I walk over to Hong Kong, my friend has seats on the second floor, he could not find her! He was mad. She promised him she’d be there and I guessed flaked out. We waited about 45 minutes. And then something awful happened. I think. I saw my wifes friend walk in. Our eyes met, he stared blankly at me then would look away and watch some of the girls, he stayed right by the door. I think Holy Shit, I'm done son. He finally leaves after about 15 minutes. I'm like fuck. I saw the chick with the huge booty wearing the 1 piece string bikini but some lucky lad took her to talk so I was out of luck. I told my friend he should just fuck someone at Adelitas to get all his frustrations out.
So Adelitas it was! We enter and like usual at the corner of the stage there is a Tall big booty big breasted chick. I don’t take her cause we just got there. We walk around my friend asks if I see anything I like, I say of course. He asks me if the chick in the white looks good, I say yes and he takes her. I walk around and there is not much left. I step back to a corner and just check the girls out. One looks at me and makes a gesture like lets go. I'm like fuck it. She is a tall chick, looks like someone stretched her to be tall LOL. She had a fuck doll figure, skinny. I take her we go up I pay the clerk and we are in the room. She starts with a nice BJ. Then we do doggie, she moans and I open her up, she says that that hurts her so I stop. Oh btw she is doing the old "fuck my fingers" routine I know all you mongers hate. I really don’t care cause. IDK I just don’t. We switch to missionary. Then I tell her I want her on top, she says no! Wtf. She says she doesn’t like it. I still don’t let that ruin the fuck. I tell her to do it doggie again, she mutters something along the lines of ok just hurry. I fuck and finish. All in all I give her a 5/10. At least she did not smell bad, scent is a HUGE thing with me. Oh and she did not shower after fucking me. I wait for my friend and we leave back to Hong Kong, last ditch attempt.
We hung out waited for about 20 minutes. She never materializes. We leave my friend dumbfounded and disappointed. Depressed even. We get to the border and there is NO line. And there are like 5 cars in the car line. Halloween next year I'm driving in! My friend forgot his bc again, this time he got a shit talking to. But they don’t really hassle him, they let him go. We drive back home, discuss our stories. We arrive back in L. A. At around 3:30 am.
In conclusion this trip was nice. Uh not so much for my friend and I did not get the big booty girl I wanted. So I give the trip a 7/10. New plan for next time, fuck at Adelitas first, then go back to mermaids for a massage with the chick I make out with. That sounds more nice to me. I think she will become my new Tijuana make out chick, some random Adelitas chick will be my Tijuana fuck chick. Here are the damages:
40 Gas
40 mermaids massage
60 mermaids fuck
3 dollar cover at hong kong
60 Adelitas chick
12 room
1 bucket boy
10 US parking
226 TOTAL! That’s a lot….
Im crafting a set plan for next time:
20 gas, my friend better drive next time
60 Adelitas chick
12 room
1 bucket boy
40 mermaids massage
20 mermaids tip
3 cover at hong kong
12 taxi total (Border to adelitas, adelitas to border)
168 Total….hmmm still alittle too much tho…oh well Ill play it by ear.
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Let us now if your wive's friend rats you out. Wait, I thought you weren't married.
Friday nights are usually always one of the lightest to cross the border. I've driven straight into an open window on Fridays around 11 pm.
I am Sentri :-) so it is no longer an issue.
but just fyi... Fridays is usually way light traffic.
Feds cruised through Hong Kongs, turned on all the lights and had about 20 guys storm through. ... it was only 10 minutes and they were gone.
Strong Federally Presence on Friday night all over the Zona.
It was fun. They had all kinds of kids dressed up walking the Zona and Revolution. I got $5 worth of pesos and gave them out to the younger kids.
Just my 2 cents
Crash Helmet
11-03-08, 08:41
...and she did not shower after fucking me.
That's brutal. Then again some guys love the fact that she's full of crud, inside and out.
Why not use pesos ? Save even more money.
That's brutal. Then again some guys love the fact that she's full of crud, inside and out.
yeah I rarely repeat with a girl if she does just a half assed sinkwash or no cleaning at all. Yech, I'd hate to have to wonder how many other guys have sucked on her tits before me without her showering? Yech literally swaping spit with other guys then...
Two Dollars
11-05-08, 11:07
I'm heading down this weekend.
If anybody's looking for a wingman to share battle stories and beer, shoot me a PM.
Whats up fellow mongers? I dont post much but I read the board weekly, if not daily. I only get out to TJ 3 times a year since moving to atlanta, which sucks, so i gotta give props to all you regular posters for keeping me informed. Thanks guys! I'm headed down to TJ again in December and i'm looking to try a new hotel on the strip. I always stay at the hacienda de santiago because its clean, and safe(I travel alone), yet pretty close to all the action. I'm looking for something safe/clean, but right on callejon in the middle of the action. The idea of walking out the front door 5 steps and see the SG's sounds great to me. Any info/pricing would be greatly appreciated.
...Do you know of safe clubs/bars where Latinas hang out? ...
You can do a little homework and check out the following site where some places are mentioned.
http://www.tijuanablog.com
Locoaztec14
11-09-08, 08:57
Thinking of going in December to TJ. Just curious but how is the selection around that month. Trophy Club Girls? Street Girls? are they around for the holidays?
Any info. would be helpful; never been to tj during the holidays.
Thinking of going in December to TJ. Just curious but how is the selection around that month. Trophy Club Girls? Street Girls? are they around for the holidays?
Any info. would be helpful; never been to tj during the holidays.You have to be patient and willing to shop a little harder in December. Many of the chicas head home for the holidays and do not return until Jan or Feb
So you get more of the local girls. Pickings get a bit slimmer. But their is ALWAYS something to do. I think the only day of the year that Hong Kongs or Adelitas is closed is Christmas day/eve.
You just need to show patience.
It was pretty thin last night in Hong Kongs. I went to see my regular girl and glad she was their, cause pickings were slim.
I did drop my jaw at a SG last night while eating a Carne Asada Casadea at the corner of the Alley. OMG! Even the hombre at the stand was drolling.
So YMMV! If I wasn't finished. I would have been tempted she was awesome.
I'm heading to TJ Nov.20 or Nov.21.
Does anyone want to have a beer or monger together?
Country John
11-18-08, 23:19
Thinking of going in December to TJ. Just curious but how is the selection around that month. Trophy Club Girls? Street Girls? are they around for the holidays?
Any info. would be helpful; never been to tj during the holidays.
The week before Christmas is when the girls leave for vacation. Don't expect price breaks from the girls who stay behind. They know well the economic principles of supply and demand.
Still, take your time and enjoy. You will notice a dramatic drop in activity.
As soon as I left HK I did not get to far I was approached by a nice looking Street girl named Monica. Needless to say I never made it to Adelita's I headed to the cascade with her $20 for her $5.50 for the room. Ihad a good experience with her I must say the girls on the street are getting better at pleasing you.
All in all it was A great trip 2 pops lots of beer and I spent well under $100. I did catch a $5 cab to the border I don't think it is to safe to take the walk at night.I read lot of reports mention payments in U.S. dollars like the above... is that true? or is it in peso converted to USD? Do I need to have peso or my greenback is good?
Thanks,
Rex
Country John
11-19-08, 18:29
I read lot of reports mention payments in U.S. dollars like the above... is that true? or is it in peso converted to USD? Do I need to have peso or my greenback is good?
Thanks,
Rex
Most pricing is in dollars because that is what mongers bring across. Right now, the dollar is 12.50 pesos or thereabouts so it's a good idea to negotiate and pay in pesos, you could save a few bucks here and there but at the end of the day, there is no HUGE savings.
You might also find that the girl wants nothing to do with pesos, she'll negotiate in dollars.
If you're no good with Spanish or don't understand the currency then stick to dollars. (gold) When the dollar gets to 15 pesos (Plata) then deal in pesos for sure.
Yes the dollar is real strong against the peso right now, sadly due to the US economic crisis as Mexico is the US number one exporter.
I was just in TJ the other day and the exchange rate is in the highs 1300's to the dollar, but depending where you go, you get a little bit less, something like in the 1330's, and then when you want to change it back again into dollars, you get high 1200's, so it's best to use up everything you get, and perhaps use the ATMs to get the best rates of exchange.
For example I have done about 4 street girls my last few trips and all of them accepted my 200 pesos( around $15 dollars) even if they try to up sell me for another $5 dollars, I give them 50 pesos( about $3.50)
I did a BG for 600 pesos last trip again about $45 dollars if you were using dollars. Now some of the girls won't go for this, they know you're getting a deal, and if anybody deserves a deal, it's them, so they will insist on dollars, or instead of 600 pesos perhaps 800 pesos. For these girls, perhaps you can split the difference and make it 700 pesos and you both come out ahead?
Same thing with taxi driver. They don't want to turn on the meter, and charge you $5 dollars.You instead of arguing take out 50 pesos, give it to them, and for you it's really about $3.50 dollars.
So yes it's a great advantage to exchange your dollars for pesos....you'll be able to take advantage of the exchange rate most of the time, but not always. Hong Kong is one bar that doesn't give a shit if you use pesos, they will just charge you more pesos, but most places and most girls you willl get a better deal using pesos.
Pablito Diablito
11-22-08, 01:57
A girl who wants you to "take care" of her doesn't want $200 for a laptop. But negotiating and planning for mongering adventures takes many forms and strategies. This would be one.
Be safe and be nice
Juan del Campo.The first chick that I met in the zona norte was at Mermaids Massage parlor and, who knows if this is true or not, but she was going to school to be a nurse and only did this part time. True or not the opportunity is there, Baja California has a lot of universities and some of these girls are just trying make a step up.
The difference in the price of the comped sessions and the laptop was minimal. I could have cared less, that was like one dinner. You can't buy a laptop in Mexico for that price. Technology is so much cheaper in the US and being that she does not have access to the US market, it was that much more valuable to her.
Now, going forward. I think that I have read enough good comments to know 100% that there will be no money transfers. I think it sounds so obvious, but daddy's brain operation is a real tear jerker.
Thanks for responses
PD
After the airport I took advantage of being in Baja passed by AB then Ensenada and watched the Baja 1000 start. Such a good day, or really like 36 hour period.
Pablito Diablito
11-22-08, 19:00
Most pricing is in dollars because that is what mongers bring across.It is also a much more stable currency than the peso. Expensive items are priced in dollars because a big downward swing in the price of pesos would severly discount that product and cause it to be unprofitable.
I recomend going to the ATM to take out Pesos. The exchange rate for today Nov 22, is 13. 9 Mexican pesos per US$1, and the ATMs give some of the best exchange rates but just make sure you use a safe one (to avoid the scams). Caliente on Revolución has security everywhere and a safe bet.
A "car club" would be an association of individuals who share a common interest in tricked out vehicles.
Ah okay, I remember seeing many of them back when I was in college. But it was comprised mostly of Asians.
saturday nov 23 report.
i was apprehensive because as of friday 500 police officers were replaced by federal and military. but i figured that the mob now has more manpower to police their zone.
upon entry into mexico, i noticed that there were substantially less tourists. most crossing were natives. upon arrival at adelitas, there were substantially more police presense who usually patrol in tandem or trios. in fact, it was impossible to not see the police if you're outside. there was a strong police presense.
chicago. dead as usual as of 8pm.
adelitas. business as usual all day. i did not notice a drop off in girls. but there were far less men, which made it more tolerable since the weekend crowd often makes it almost unbearable. as far as eye candy goes, this place has the prettiest girls with many dressed in club wear which is my personal preference. but there were also many in "fuck me" outfits, the "catholic schoolgirl" outfits, and the "i have an obvious bikini wax" outfits. prices are $60 +12 but will increase if you abnormally large, smelly, obnoxious, or drunk.
hong kong. business as usual, but they've now added a multiple-girl chocolate lesbian show in addition to their notorious dual-girl lesbian cream shows. entry is free until 7pm where a purchase of a drink is mandatory before entry. it's actually a good idea since it acts as a crowd control. i don't mind paying for a drink if it keeps a freeloading joe-john-jerry from rudely blocking my view of the stage. the girls in there are slutty as always, with many walking around topless. in fact, you can basically gently pull down any top you want for a preview. exception. not the very-very young looking girls with sashes. they seem to be girls in training since several almost fell off the bars when attempting to spin on the poles. seems as though management is offering them a try-out position to see if they like it. they generally don't go upstairs. but one did wink at me while pressing her tongue to her cheaks to hint a bj. i passed because they seemed ****d.
food. i ate at the restaurant adjacent to adelitas. ordered the beef soup and fish in garlic sauce. since it came with tortillas, it was essentially a 4 fish fajitas meal. cost $6. 50. a little heavy on the salt as most mexican dishes, but delicious.
charity. i also gave 1 old lady, 2 mothers with child (hopefully not borrowed), and an official mexican salvation army worker who were pandhandling a dollar each. i feel like a selfish bastard if i don't. i just hope they weren't the dollars i stuck in the hk stripper's pussy that was later returned to me after purchasing a drink.
overall. i give this vacation a 10 out of 10. i would advise all tourists to this fine destination to really enjoy the land. in other words, womanize and hoar. but also eat and give some to charity. i think you'll return to the us more satistifed and happy for what you have instead of bitching about a teethy blowjob.
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Saturday Nov 23 report.
But also eat and give some to charity. I think you'll return to the US more satistifed and happy for what you have instead of bitching about a teethy blowjob.Lol, well said.
I also give to the less fortunate. Rarely the male bums. Mostly to the single mothers and kids selling chiclets.
Greetings everyone,
I have moved all of El Tijuanense's dark and ominous reports of the scene in TJ to a new thread:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2966
I don't know what El Tijuanense's real agenda is, but apparently it isn not to encourage guys to visit Tijuana.
If you want to continue talking about and listening to these obvious scare stories, then please do so in this new thread.
Additional reports in this "Tijuana Reports" thread emulating El Tijuanense's past reports will be deleted without comment.
Thanks,
Jackson
"CHEATERS" Calle 6ta #1927-3 (between Relucion & Constitucion)- this is a new massage parlor(por sexo) I stumbled across that I will recommend. They had 3 VERY cute/young/flaca attendants. This is truly a rarity in TJ to find any lineup with 3 acceptables. $40 to the house- negotiate rest with gal. (+$60 for full service)-- $100 bill by the time you get out of there, but place is clean/shower and girl was cutest I have had in TJ in a while.-- I definately will return. usa:152664685-8638/cell:664-164-7193
Johnny Wadd
11-30-08, 07:22
Troyboy,
Thanks for the tip. I haven't visited the old town in years but I used to enjoy Mermaids for the service and the young hotties in mini skirts. Mermaids is closer to the main action, but the going rate is more like $140, so it's the price leader that competes with the Adelitas and the other joints. Cheaters looks like it is opposite the Zona as you mention the cross street is 6ta. Is the place discreet or easy to find?
Fight on
I am a relatively experienced enthusiast but this is my first post. It's about my first visit to Tijuana. Drove down alone from the SD on the Saturday night after Thanksgiving. I parked at UETA lot. I went to the lot behind Jack in the Box as recommended but there were a lot of unsavoury characters hanging around at 7:30 pm so I went back around to UETA. I was a little nervous about going after reading about the cartel wars and police shakedowns. Walked through the gates with no one giving me a glance. I went up to the first taxi and asked how much to Adelita's Bar before getting in. $5 was the answer. I sat in the front seat as recommended in Brockton O'Toole's guide and conversed with the driver in Spanglish. Adelita's wasn't very crowded about 20 girls and twice as many guys. No real stunners in my opinion. Got a beer and sat down to check out the place. About 1/4 of the customers were gringos or rather non-Mexicans. Lots of Chinese, Black and even some (Asian) Indians among the White gringos. One chica sat down with me and motioned to a waiter to bring her a drink without even asking me if I was buying. The waiter comes back with the drink and asks me for payment. I normally would have made a fuss but I remembered reading forum advice to be cool and so I took it as a lesson learned. I gave that chica the brush off and saw my dreamgirl. Tall pale brunette with fake C cups. Her hair was cut in a pageboy style but I can't remember her name. She quoted me $60 chupa y coger plus $12 for cuarto. In bright light I saw that she was a bit older (mid 30's) but with a very tight body. A nine at first glance across a crowded bar became a 7 under the lights when I saw her plastic surgery scars. Good attitude in bed with standard covered chupa then cowgirl to missionary which is the only way I can finish with most chicas. Greek was non-negociable. Finished quicker than I wanted because she was so gorgeous.
The V made it possible to go again so I walked down to Hong Kong. Much more hectic atmosphere. You have to buy a three dollar bottle of beer as an entrance fee. I gave the bouncer a buck tip and the waiter another buck for opening the bottle. Sat down near the entrance and a girl immediately sat next to me. She was a bleached blonde with a strangely angular nose that could only have resulted from plastic surgery (think Michael Jackson) Said her name was Anthrax. I bought her a lady drink for $7 and she got friendly. She wanted $70 for standard half and half but no anal. Just to see her reaction I told her that I was only interested in anal. I didn't want to make a quick decision so I told her to come back in thirty minutes. A bunch of other chicas tooks turns sitting down next to me, each double teaming with a waiter who hovered over me exhorting me to buy the girl a drink. This behavoir was getting obnoxious enough that I was ready to leave. Especially since I didn't see any stunners that I just had to fornicate.
Just when I was ready to get up and go a tall brunette (my type) with fake C cups sat next to me. Her name was "Maki. " I bought her a lady drink and we talked business. She wanted $70 also. I said that was too much and she said what do you offer. I countered with $50 and she said okay. We went up to the room (which was filthy compared to the room at Adelita's) and again in brighter light I saw some flaws that initially escaped my attention. I had noticed one large tribal tattoo on her lower back but she actually had many others, on her arms and even tattoos on each toe. Her breast augmentation was sloppily done with jagged inverted "T" scars under the breasts. I brought my own condoms but she tried to switch to her Mexican brand saying they taste better. I pointed out that I need the Magnum XLs to avoid the blood supply from being cut off. We did standard half and half. I was able to put my entire forefinger in her ass during the chupa and she made noises like she didn't mind. Once we switched to missionary I offered to double her fee for greek but she wouldn't have it.
I made a wrong turn coming out of the hotel room and was in the alley. One girl next to another. I thought I was in heaven. The girls were strangely passive, not even attempting to make eye contact. Decent quality, as good as what was on offer in the clubs IMO. I went around the block and back into Hong Kong. It was now about 11:00 pm and much more crowded. Ninety percent Mexican. About 60 chicas with many 7 and 7. 5s but no knock-out. One strange Mexican guy was giving his girl a fully clothed massage in a booth complete with knee in back. I sat for a while to see if there was anyone there who was worth a third round. There were some decents girls but none that my life would be incomplete without. I was worried about a line at the border. A shuttle driver in SD had said to expect two hour pedestrian entry waits on Saturday nights. I got a cab to the border ($5 + $1 tip) There was no line and only a five minute wait while the border agents took their sweet time with everyone. I was back in the USA as the clock struck midnight. Total cost for the evening just under $200 including two chicas, four beers, assorted $1 tips, three lady drinks, the cab rides and parking.
No policia hassles at the border. Policia in evidence in the Zona and saw one walking through boths clubs on several occasions. My only scare came as I walked back to the Ueta lot through the spiral ramps and covered bridge that take you back over the freeway. A group of 5 gang-banger-looking minority youth were hanging around and walking slowly on the down ramp as if waiting for me to pass in order to size me up. I quickly walked by and nothing happened but my heart was racing as the fight or flight reaction kicked in. I felt stupid to be in such a situation: a lone middle-aged man. Easy meat for the gang-bangers but no way to get back other than walking the long way around to UETA or taking a cab. Even without the disadvantaged youths that one mile plus walk from where the cab dropped me off back to my car was no fun.
"CHEATERS" Calle 6ta #1927-3 (between Relucion & Constitucion)- this is a new massage parlor(por sexo) I stumbled across that I will recommend. They had 3 VERY cute/young/flaca attendants. This is truly a rarity in TJ to find any lineup with 3 acceptables. $40 to the house- negotiate rest with gal. (+$60 for full service)-- $100 bill by the time you get out of there, but place is clean/shower and girl was cutest I have had in TJ in a while.--
Thanks for the 411 on the current lineup at Cheaters which BTW has been around since 2001. Their sister facility right around the corner on Revu called D'elegante is relatively new however.
where is the best possibility of finding a squiter and a chica that will do kinkly shit like a [CodeWord103] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103)?
... The V made it possible to go again so I walked down to Hong Kong. Much more hectic atmosphere. You have to buy a three dollar bottle of beer as an entrance fee. I gave the bouncer a buck tip and the waiter another buck for opening the bottle. Sat down near the entrance and a girl immediately sat next to me. She was a bleached blonde with a strangely angular nose that could only have resulted from plastic surgery (think Michael Jackson) Said her name was Anthrax. I bought her a lady drink for $7 and she got friendly. She wanted $70 for standard half and half but no anal. Just to see her reaction I told her that I was only interested in anal. I didn't want to make a quick decision so I told her to come back in thirty minutes. A bunch of other chicas tooks turns sitting down next to me, each double teaming with a waiter who hovered over me exhorting me to buy the girl a drink. This behavoir was getting obnoxious enough that I was ready to leave. Especially since I didn't see any stunners that I just had to fornicate.
...
No policia hassles at the border. Policia in evidence in the Zona and saw one walking through boths clubs on several occasions. My only scare came as I walked back to the Ueta lot through the spiral ramps and covered bridge that take you back over the freeway. A group of 5 gang-banger-looking minority youth were hanging around and walking slowly on the down ramp as if waiting for me to pass in order to size me up. I quickly walked by and nothing happened but my heart was racing as the fight or flight reaction kicked in. I felt stupid to be in such a situation: a lone middle-aged man. Easy meat for the gang-bangers but no way to get back other than walking the long way around to UETA or taking a cab. Even without the disadvantaged youths that one mile plus walk from where the cab dropped me off back to my car was no fun.
Nice TR. Thanks.
It seems Anthrax is back. She used to be brunette and I'd seen her on the day shift as well as nights. Last I heard she was on maternity leave. Apparently, that's all done. If it's the same chica, she had D fakes and a good attitude. She also has LOTS of mileage, and I think $70 is way too high for her.
Even on a Sunday afternoon in high season, I've NEVER seen a 2-hour wait at the border. 1.5 hours is the longest I can recall. And never at night. The SD guy was full of it.
The ramp has security cameras at each end, and there are usually rent-a-cops roaming around somewhere. I think it's probably a lot safer than it looks. I wouldn't sweat it too much.
Have fun!
PP
Mark_Simon
12-01-08, 23:04
my girl will [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on you no problem.
let me know how much you are willing to pay.
where is the best possibility of finding a squiter and a chica that will do kinkly shit like a [CodeWord103] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103)?
My girl will [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on you no problem.
Let me know how much you are willing to pay.Lets see a pic first? Do you have one showing her in action?
Depeche Mode
12-03-08, 10:23
Ho Nguyen,
Nice report hope to read more!
Country John
12-03-08, 18:39
My girl will [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on you no problem.
Let me know how much you are willing to pay.
JaJaJAJA (For an English translation, substitute the "J" with "H.")
Mongers: You need to ask the girl.
Tell her what you want.
Ask her if she is a squirter, she'll tell you but make sure she understands what you are saying.
These girls are businesspersons. They want to make money. They are sitting on their stock.
When she sits down and makes them "big eyes," ask her. Believe me, you're not going to shock her or hurt her feelings.
Imagine walking into a car dealership and being frightened to ask the salesman to throw in a little plastic hula girl with bare titties. You think that's gonna rock him? Nope!
So consider Adelitas and the other clubs as a dispenseria for your sexual needs. If you're afraid to ask, you'll never know.
Be safe and be nice
Country John
To Depeche Mode
Thanks very much, I've had some fun many times thanks to this forum.
To Phordfan
this Anthrax displayed her floppy C cups and made a point of saying they were real unlike the fakes found at Adelita's
Regarding the sash girls previously mentioned. There were at least ten of them at HK on Saturday Nov 28. Very cute, very fuckable. When I walked in they were sitting in circle on the floor of entrane foyer giggling to each other. I was sorry I didn't pay closer attention but there were so many regular chicas that it was a bit overwhelming. I'd actually prefer a sweet young thing to a hard looking
veteran unless we're talking about 9's or 10's
Mark_Simon
12-03-08, 21:49
You want a pic of her on the toilet?
Lets see a pic first? Do you have one showing her in action?
You want a pic of her on the toilet?Sure, lets she the squat!
Hi guys,
I will be flying into SAN then trolley down to the border.
Can anyone tell me how this works and now long does it take.
Or is there a better way?
Cobra Comander
12-06-08, 03:14
Hi guys,
I will be flying into SAN then trolley down to the border.
Can anyone tell me how this works and now long does it take.
Or is there a better way?
... on why you're coming. If you're coming just for TJ then I'd suggest stying just north of the border (or in TJ but thats a whole other topic).
If you're staying downtown or therebouts it's an appx 45 min ride from the middle of downtown. I actually go down there via trolley quite often and I live in La Mesa. Its a hour and a half each way but.... I take my ipod and a paper and keep myself occupied and dont worry about having to drive as im falling across the border hopped up on alcohol and Viagra (and whatever other pills I may or may not have taken lol).
CC
You can either walk from the airport (two miles) or grab a taxi to the trolley. From the trolley, walk over the bridge and then grab a taxi and sit in the front seat. Have your map in hand and tell the driver to take you to the arch (arco)$5. 00. If you have the time, staying in Tijuana is the best way to enjoy the culture.
You can either walk from the airport (two miles) or grab a taxi to the trolley. From the trolley, walk over the bridge and then grab a taxi and sit in the front seat. Have your map in hand and tell the driver to take you to the arch (arco)$5. 00. If you have the time, staying in Tijuana is the best way to enjoy the culture.
Even better....take the Alamo rental car shuttle to their center, then walk to the trolley about 100m
Imahustlababy
12-07-08, 23:04
Hello all fellow mongers. I'm going to Tijuana in mid-January for the first time, and will be spending there a few days between work assignments in SD. First of, thanks for tons of useful info I've seen on this forum. It's invaluable in planning the trip. A few more questions to ask the experienced people:
1. When taking the girl upstairs at a club (AB, HK, etc.) and paying $12 room fee for 1/2 hour or whatever, does this time include a shower after the "knock-knock" in that room? Perhaps, with the girl, if she needs to shower too? Do the hotel people make a fuss and ask you pay extra if you stay in the room a bit over the 1/2 hour?
2. Did anybody have experience insisting on "pago solamente quando completo, " that is "I pay only after we're done" and certainly enticing the girl with a probable tip. Or pay half before, half after. All to improve service. If yes, in what clubs? If no, does it make sense to do this in Tijuana? Maybe with street walkers?
3. Do the girls carry age-verification ID's on them? I want to avoid breaking the law inadvertently. Are fake ID's popular like in the states?
4. Do the chicas carry the medical examination cards (those chicas that do take med exams)? I'd be defly asking for those, even tho with protection the risk is minimal.
5. Is it better to pay chicas in dollars or pesos? How about at Tijuana food places, hotels, other services? If pesos, what are the best places to exchange money? In Tijuana, or in San Diego, etc?
If you know at least some of these answers, would appreciate your replies for everyone's benefit! Muchas gracias!
Hello all fellow mongers. I'm going to Tijuana in mid-January for the first time, and will be spending there a few days between work assignments in SD. First of, thanks for tons of useful info I've seen on this forum. It's invaluable in planning the trip. A few more questions to ask the experienced people:
1. When taking the girl upstairs at a club (AB, HK, etc.) and paying $12 room fee for 1/2 hour or whatever, does this time include a shower after the "knock-knock" in that room? Perhaps, with the girl, if she needs to shower too? Do the hotel people make a fuss and ask you pay extra if you stay in the room a bit over the 1/2 hour?
2. Did anybody have experience insisting on "pago solamente quando completo, " that is "I pay only after we're done" and certainly enticing the girl with a probable tip. Or pay half before, half after. All to improve service. If yes, in what clubs? If no, does it make sense to do this in Tijuana? Maybe with street walkers?
3. Do the girls carry age-verification ID's on them? I want to avoid breaking the law inadvertently. Are fake ID's popular like in the states?
4. Do the chicas carry the medical examination cards (those chicas that do take med exams)? I'd be defly asking for those, even tho with protection the risk is minimal.
5. Is it better to pay chicas in dollars or pesos? How about at Tijuana food places, hotels, other services? If pesos, what are the best places to exchange money? In Tijuana, or in San Diego, etc?
If you know at least some of these answers, would appreciate your replies for everyone's benefit! Muchas gracias!
1. The time starts from the minute the desk guy hands you your towel. If you need extra time, the best time to ask is right then, and pay for more. Normally, after the knock and your time is up, the chica can get by with a bit more time cleaning up. That is, *IF* she's one who actually cleans up afterwards.
2. Never, ever, pay up front. Period. I don't care how hot she is. The girls all have "newbie" sensors, and they'll try to push their luck, just like a little kid. Don't give in, don't allow upselling, be nice but don't take any shit. If she insists, walk. Tell the desk guy she changed the deal and ask for a refund. You won't get one, but they'll tell you to bring up another chica and they won't charge you again. Don't overtip. This is Mexico, and tipping is a gringo thing. If it's really, really good, $5 extra is fine. Don't forget $1 for the jizz boy.
3. The girls all have ID. But, just stick with those who look over 21 and you'll be fine.
4. The chicas are all supposed to have health cards while working. Ask. They may show it to you. Maybe they'll cover up their real names. The cards will have a sticker on them showing the "expiration" date. If you're checking, make sure the date's current.
5. Pesos are better *IF* you negotiate and know your prices. You'll probably come out a little bit ahead. If this is your first time, it may just be easier to work in dollars. Exchange in Mexico. The one immediately across the border is easiest, but doesn't have great rates. The ones near the zona, on Constitucion, I understand have better rates, but I don't know personally. The one on Articulo 123 near Revu is really bad.
PP
Any takers to list some of the cheapest hotels in TJ?
They don't have to be close to the action, but then one would need to add a price of a taxi round trip.
Country John
12-08-08, 04:24
1. the time starts from the minute the desk guy hands you your towel. if you need extra time, the best time to ask is right then, and pay for more. normally, after the knock and your time is up, the chica can get by with a bit more time cleaning up. that is, *if* she's one who actually cleans up afterwards. that's right. and sometimes i think they can't read the clock. when you pay, slip the desk guy a couple of bucks and say (with a smile): "no knock please. "
2. never, ever, pay up front. period. i don't care how hot she is. the girls all have "newbie" sensors, and they'll try to push their luck, just like a little kid. don't give in, don't allow upselling, be nice but don't take any shit. if she insists, walk. tell the desk guy she changed the deal and ask for a refund. you won't get one, but they'll tell you to bring up another chica and they won't charge you again. don't overtip. this is mexico, and tipping is a gringo thing. if it's really, really good, $5 extra is fine. don't forget $1 for the jizz boy. the one golden rule that never gets followed. the girl usually asks up front because she's frightened she won't get paid, or is lining you up for a short session. sometimes it's all legit but it's always hard to tell.
i used to say: "i don't pay up front, but i'll put the money here ont he nightstand, take it when we are finished please. put it on your side of the bed. letting her see the money shows her that you have the money. keeping it on your side of the bed is a signal that it is still under your control until the session ends.
most girls wait until you are undressed before asking for the money, thinking there's not much you're going to do while naked, so get it out of the way before you undress in case you (or she) decides to walk.
3. the girls all have id. but, just stick with those who look over 21 and you'll be fine. the girl can't work unless she provides the club with id and a health card. the club can be shut down if the cops catch **** girls and it would never happen at adelitas, so relax. if she's on the floor, she's good to go.
4. the chicas are all supposed to have health cards while working. ask. they may show it to you. maybe they'll cover up their real names. the cards will have a sticker on them showing the "expiration" date. if you're checking, make sure the date's current. the girls used to keep their cards on file in the office rather than on their person. that might have changed given the recent crack-downs (pun intended) on health cards.
she might balk at showing you the card because it will have her photo and real name on it. the photos are usually terrible and she might not want to reveal her real name.
remember: she can't work at ab without a health card, and ab strictly enforces the rules on the girls. just because she has a health card doesn't mean she's healthy today. she was healthy when she got the samples taken and when they got tested. that was a onth or so ago. so insist on the condom, and dine at your own risk.
5. pesos are better *if* you negotiate and know your prices. you'll probably come out a little bit ahead. if this is your first time, it may just be easier to work in dollars. exchange in mexico. the one immediately across the border is easiest, but doesn't have great rates. the ones near the zona, on constitucion, i understand have better rates, but i don't know personally. the one on articulo 123 near revu is really bad. the girls at ab are wise to the currency fluctuations. they are not, however, the sharpest knives in the drawers. they might insist on dollars, but try pesos and see what happens.
rates do vary from one place to another. if you can hit a bank before closing you'll get the best rate. they are all within several pesos of each other and it's a good spread right now anyway.
good post phord, great answers.
country john
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So the girls are at AB are all 21 or over LOL. I thought it was 18. Doesn't really matter anyways most of them are older then me hahha.
Hi guys,
I will be flying into SAN then trolley down to the border.
Can anyone tell me how this works and now long does it take.
Or is there a better way?I don't know why no one has mentioned it but there is a shuttle called the airport flyer #992 that will take you to the trolley station. The cost of the shuttle will count towards the fare you pay to go to the border.
The girls at AB are wise to the currency fluctuations. They are not, however, the sharpest knives in the drawers. They might insist on dollars, but try pesos and see what happens.
Rates do vary from one place to another. If you can hit a bank before closing you'll get the best rate. They are all within several pesos of each other and it's a good spread right now anyway.
Some of the chicas in AB are wise to the currency difference. I have been asked for 750 and 800 pesos. The latter would have cost me 51 cents at the conversion rate I got compared to $60. Many of the chicas will go for 600, though. Just ask.
One of my amigos went to a bank in TJ (I don't know which one) and discovered that the rate there was worse than the cambios in the zona. The one on the AB side of the street on the next block down (towards La Tropa) usually has the best rates but not significantly better than the one at the end of the alley near the police ministation.
I understand that when you change dollars into pesos when the dollar is high you get more pesos. But if you're paying the chick the same thing you were paying before just in pesos whats the difference.
I understand that when you change dollars into pesos when the dollar is high you get more pesos. But if you're paying the chick the same thing you were paying before just in pesos whats the difference.
The object is to pay them, in pesos, whatever the rate, in pesos, was before the currency drop.
In other words, when the peso was 10:1, if you paid $50 you could also have paid 500 pesos. Now, if you pay 500 pesos, you get a much better deal, in dollars, due to the currency fluctuation.
Many of the girls think in pesos, so it may be easier to negotiate in pesos. Also, the girls have to pay for a lot of their expenses in pesos. So, they have to change their dollars to pesos, thus taking a hit on the conversion. So, it can be slightly advantageous for the girl to receive pesos in the first place.
I understand that when you change dollars into pesos when the dollar is high you get more pesos. But if you're paying the chick the same thing you were paying before just in pesos whats the difference.
Exactly. That's why the sharper AB girls are asking for the same. But that doesn't mean we have to pay it. Many will take 600pesos instead of 60 dollars and that is where you get the savings.
2. Never, ever, pay up front. Period. I don't care how hot she is. The girls all have "newbie" sensors, and they'll try to push their luck, just like a little kid. Don't give in, don't allow upselling, be nice but don't take any shit. If she insists, walk. Tell the desk guy she changed the deal and ask for a refund. You won't get one, but they'll tell you to bring up another chica and they won't charge you again. Don't overtip. This is Mexico, and tipping is a gringo thing. If it's really, really good, $5 extra is fine. Don't forget $1 for the jizz boy.
The one golden rule that never gets followed. The girl usually asks up front because she's frightened she won't get paid, or is lining you up for a short session. Sometimes it's all legit but it's always hard to tell.
I used to say: "I don't pay up front, but I'll put the money here ont he nightstand, take it when we are finished please. Put it on YOUR side of the bed. Letting her see the money shows her that you have the money. Keeping it on your side of the bed is a signal that it is still under your control until the session ends.
Most girls wait until you are undressed before asking for the money, thinking there's not much you're going to do while naked, so get it out of the way BEFORE you undress in case you (or she) decides to walk.
Good post phord, great answers.
Country John
This is something I've mentioned before, that I don't agree to the pay afterwards thing. I've paid up front and had good sessions. And I've also paid afterwards and had bad sessions. It is more likely that the girl will try to flee or finish faster if you pay her first. But that is not always the case. This is why I preffer to go with my regular chicas. They don't ever ask for money up front. But even if they did I would gladly pay them up front cause I already know they will provide a great session. I can understand why some girls insist to be paid up front. Some have been ripped off in the past and just feel safer this way. It's really up to you. But I disagree with Fjordfan that you should "never" pay up front. One girl at the bar who I just met said she turned some guy away because he insisted in paying afterwards. Her response was "hell no!" and walked out on him. I went with her, paid her up front and had a really nice GFE session.
This is something I've mentioned before, that I don't agree to the pay afterwards thing. I've paid up front and had good sessions. And I've also paid afterwards and had bad sessions. It is more likely that the girl will try to flee or finish faster if you pay her first. But that is not always the case. This is why I preffer to go with my regular chicas. They don't ever ask for money up front. But even if they did I would gladly pay them up front cause I already know they will provide a great session. I can understand why some girls insist to be paid up front. Some have been ripped off in the past and just feel safer this way. It's really up to you. But I disagree with Fjordfan that you should "never" pay up front. One girl at the bar who I just met said she turned some guy away because he insisted in paying afterwards. Her response was "hell no!" and walked out on him. I went with her, paid her up front and had a really nice GFE session.
Everyone's mileage varies. But it seems to me that far more stories abound about guys paying up front and getting bad service, than the opposite.
The question appeared to be from a relative newbie. Therefore, the "never" advice. I still think it's a good rule of thumb. With more experience you can alter the rules. But, IHMO, generally speaking, you're setting yourself up for a bad session if you pay up front. You've lost what little control of the situation you may have had.
Also, I don't know anybody who's tried to rip off a girl. You've got to be a total scumbag to try such a thing. But, it seems to me that if you did, in TJ, you could get into a world of hurt. I would think you'd get to know, in a bad way, several cum boys, or bouncers, or cops, or all of the above. But I don't know.
Imahustlababy
12-12-08, 02:04
All, thanks for your answers and advice. How about paying half upfront and half afterwards? I guess the girls are not gonna be too enticed by the tip like in the states, b/c the tips in Tijuana are small. And I'd rather keep the costs reasonable.
How do you say "No knock" in Spanish, "no golpe, por favor"? I got the impression not everyone speaks English in the clubs. Is this right?
Cheers!
All, thanks for your answers and advice. How about paying half upfront and half afterwards? I guess the girls are not gonna be too enticed by the tip like in the states, b/c the tips in Tijuana are small. And I'd rather keep the costs reasonable.
How do you say "No knock" in Spanish, "no golpe, por favor"? I got the impression not everyone speaks English in the clubs. Is this right?
Cheers!With my limited Spanish ,I rely on a lot on hand signals and expressions.
Try just shaking your finger "no" and then act like you are knocking in a humble way with a smile and a por favor.
They will understand your request.
All, thanks for your answers and advice. How about paying half upfront and half afterwards? I guess the girls are not gonna be too enticed by the tip like in the states, b/c the tips in Tijuana are small. And I'd rather keep the costs reasonable.
How do you say "No knock" in Spanish, "no golpe, por favor"? I got the impression not everyone speaks English in the clubs. Is this right?
Cheers!
You'll be fine just paying all at the end.
Try something like "favor, no tocar."
English is surprising limited, considering how close TJ is the the states. But, like any other foreign country, the more a girl speaks English, the longer she's been in the business and the higher the mileage.
"favor, no tocar"
Translates to "please don't knock" as in don't knock at all. Doubt they will go for that. You should instead say, "No tocar than rapido." Which means, don't let the knock come so quickly.
The terminals are serviced every 15 minutes or so (depends on day and time of day-- schedule well posted at bus stops) by #922. You use to be able to buy a $2. 50 ticket that transferred to trolley all the way to San Yasidro, but now you need to buy a $5. 00 "day pass" Tell the driver you want to go to the trolley and he/she will make sure you get off at the AMERICAN PLAZA. Cross the street to the trolley station--(just hold on to the day pass in case you get checked by transit police) and wait for the Blue line south to San Yasidro. They also come about every 15 minutes and usually run very much on the posted schedule.
Take the trolley to the end of the line and cross over the freeway by taking the winding stairs to the entrance gates to Mexico on the west side of the freeway.
This whole area is safe (IMHO) with border guards wandering and cameras, but you do need to keep your wits about you. It is kind of a hassle/walk climbing the ramp/crossing over the freeway and back down. There is a easier way-- many locals and frequent crossers do this:
At IRIS Station (station before last stop to border) get off and take the bus to the border that will drop you off right in front of the gate to mexico, thus avoiding hoof crossing over the freeway. I cannot remember what route number it is, but ask one of the drivers waiting at the station-- this is a major bus/transfer point and very safe and lighted. Your day pass will cover you for this leg as well..-
Coming back- just buy a day pass for $5 coming out the customs door, hop on the trolley and get off at American Plaza stop. Walk to bus stop in front of "Starbucks" and wait for the #922 to airport- about every 15minutes.
I do this all the time and it usually takes me about 1. 5 hours to get from airport to Zona and once through customs about 1. 25 hours to airport. The big variable coming back is time through customs which varies greatly on time of day and day. I usually cross Sunday afternoons which during normal season takes about one hour to cross, but lines can be huge during XMAS.
Late night trolleys stop around midnight I think? Or they for sure drop in frequency. This might not be a safe time to be traveling around anyway. I usually like to be crossing the border before 9pm.
Hope this info helpful.
El Tijuanense
12-14-08, 04:52
You'll be fine just paying all at the end.
Try something like "favor, no tocar."It's por favor no tocues la puerta.
If you already know the girl, you might think paying up front should be okay. It doesn't always follow that a girl's service will be the same or better just because you are a repeat customer. Of course, being a bigger spender or tipper can help. Even then, some girls might see you as a sucker to be milked.
Sorry, there is no thread for Las Chavelas, so I guess it'll go here...
Arrived in the ZN about 5:00. It had just stopped raining, but was still windy and cold. Cabbed it to Nelson, walked to Coahuila. Made a pass through HK, back to front, just to check it out. Went over to BT and had a 2x1. Some real cuties there, but I wasn't ready. The mesero brought a couple of lovelies by, the pobrecitas looking rather embarrassed when I told the mesero that I didn't have time. I wonder what the chicas think of being hauled around like so much beef on the hoof?
Popped out of BT and ran smack into an amigo, on his way to a romantic rendezvous. We caught up, briefly, then I went back on walk-about. Made a lap through AB just for the eye candy. Then made several laps through Las Chavelas, scoping out the talent, and there was already plenty on display. Made mental notes on a couple of chicas, then wandered off to CC. I know CC never had much of an afternoon trade, but it's now about 6 and there were only 3 girls and two customers. One customer was yakking with the bartender. Two girls were flirting with the other customer and the third girl, pleasant looking but chubby, was sitting with the three meseras. Man, I've had so many great GFEs in CC, I really hate to see the decline. Went over to Delicias, which was no better. Had a beer and watched a chubby dance, fully clothed, for waaay too many songs. There were three other chicas, 2 sitting downstairs, one dancing all alone upstairs. Finished my beer and fled the scene.
Back to LC. My intended target was gone. Then I saw her come back with some guy. Didn't fancy sloppy seconds, so kept looking. I was looking for someone older. I'm really not into the 18 - 25 range. One semi-good looker kept giving me the eye. So, I figured, why not.
She said her name was Laura from Sinaloa. Stands about 5'4" barefoot, bottle blond shoulder length hair, mole on her upper lip, claimed to be 35, dressed nice in a silky blouse with a jacket-style thingy, pinstripe slacks and fake Jimmy Choos. Nice change from the hooker-wear favored by so many. You could actually take her someplace and not be embarassed.
We got to know each other a bit, as I worked my way through my 2x1. She used to work in the ticket office of the Sinaloa beisbol team, or some such. Esposo was killed in a car wreck 5 years back. Zero Ingles. She went through 2 fichas, I think. She was very conservative in the booth, no dick massage or tongue-in-ear stuff, just cuddling, hand-holding and some thigh rubbing. Did a few dances.
The band was starting to set up, and I knew that conversation would shortly go from difficult to impossible. So, I asked if she was interested in arriba. She looked at me, thought a bit, and nodded. I then told her I wanted an hour, and what was that gonna cost me. She backed up a bit, looked me square in the face, probably trying to figure if I was an axe murderer, thought for a few seconds, then nodded and said "Setenta." OK. That suited me and my cheapskate soul, so off we went.
Upstairs she was very kind and attentive. I didn't buy her story of only working there for 8 days, but she certainly wasn't a hardned pro, either.
She stripped down, then laid on top of me, cuddling and light kissing. Since we had time, I figured I'd put it to good use. I undressed, then flipped her onto her belly and gave her a good all-over massage. I don't know why, but almost all the zona chicas I know *Dig* back rubs. Some get really horny, and she didn't seem to be an exception. Then I flipped her over and started nibbling on the twins. Then some kissing all over. When I started tongue-kissing that little spot between the panocha and the inner thigh, she let out a really long sigh and really started to get into it.
After 15 minutes, or so, of DATY, she couldn't take any more. She made me stop, flipped me over onto my back and proceeded with a rather amateurish CBJ. After a couple of minutes of that I decided it was time to move on the the main event. Flipped her over for mish, my fave. Reasonably tight panocha for two kids, now very wet so no lube needed. She made all the right noises and things came to a satisfying finale. We recovered for a minute, took quick individual showers and were finishing dressing when the knock came, 60 minutes exactly. Jerks.
Forked over the agreed-upon $70, plus a $5 propina.
PP scale: 7.5/6.5 Clothed/unclothed; 8.5 Attitude; 7.5 Performance. Definite repeat material. She'll be gone from the 22nd through the 7th.
Rabo Verde
12-15-08, 03:02
Any fellow oldtimers here? I started going to TJ in the 60's!!!!
Here is a slide show of OLLLLLLLLLD Tijuana in the 1910's and 20's.
Very cool!
http://www.digthatcrazyfarout.com/oldtj/pages/25TIJ_main1923.htm
Also, if you do a search on YOUTUBE for OLD TIJUANA, some cool old 8mm stuff from the 50's 60's 70's comes up, E.G.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiM6FcnoEWE
NOT SEX PIX, JUST NOSTALGIA
Depeche Mode
12-15-08, 11:24
Phordphan, nice report, loved reading it.
Excellent grammar and such put me in Tijuana!
Went over to BT and had a 2x1. Some real cuties there, but I wasn't ready. The mesero brought a couple of lovelies by, the pobrecitas looking rather embarrassed when I told the mesero that I didn't have time. I wonder what the chicas think of being hauled around like so much beef on the hoof?
Went over to Delicias, which was no better. Had a beer and watched a chubby dance, fully clothed, for waaay too many songs. There were three other chicas, 2 sitting downstairs, one dancing all alone upstairs. Finished my beer and fled the scene.BT? Tropical Bar?
Delicias? Where is that?
Any fellow oldtimers here? I started going to TJ in the 60's!!!!
Here is a slide show of OLLLLLLLLLD Tijuana in the 1910's and 20's.
Very cool!
http://www.digthatcrazyfarout.com/oldtj/pages/25TIJ_main1923.htm
Also, if you do a search on YOUTUBE for OLD TIJUANA, some cool old 8mm stuff from the 50's 60's 70's comes up, E.G.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiM6FcnoEWE
NOT SEX PIX, JUST NOSTALGIAThat vid is cool, and you can tell they had the hooker bars back then cause they show pics of revealing girls but he doesn't want to show whats surrounding the pictures. Like we don't know. Although I don't recognize anything except the Jai Alai.
BT? Tropical Bar?
Delicias? Where is that?BT = Bar Tropical
Delicias is on the NE corner of Constitucion and Callejon Coahuila. Immediately adjacent to the parking lot. Tiny neon sign with a bunch of scuzzy looking touts lurking outside. They nab you, usher you in to a seat, get your first drink order, all for a tip.
Country John
12-15-08, 18:23
Sorry, there is no thread for Las Chavelas, so I guess it'll go here...
Arrived in the ZN about 5:00. ..............Great TR (a few posts down)
Country John
Can anyone comment on picking up "regular" girls in Tijuana? How do the local girls view the American male tourists? Would spending the day chatting up waitresses, street vendors, and saleswomen get me anywhere or do their family and friends down there form protective bubbles around them like in some cultures such as India and Arabia? Also, what about the regular American girls down there partying? Do you find them to be less stuck up and easier then when they are in the US?
Thanks for any insights.
Anyone know what Tijuana is like today?
I've been doing some reading, and would like to know all about safety, women, what not. Im thinking of taking a trip in early january.
Thanks everyone.
El Tijuanense
12-22-08, 20:29
Can anyone comment on picking up "regular" girls in Tijuana? How do the local girls view the American male tourists? Would spending the day chatting up waitresses, street vendors, and saleswomen get me anywhere or do their family and friends down there form protective bubbles around them like in some cultures such as India and Arabia?
Thanks for any insights.Here is the truth, Tijuana regular girls would never want to be seen with gringos or non-Latinos, because everybody would think they are working putas in the ZONA.Gringos are just seen as MONgers ,not to good for picking up a normal chica in Tijuana.
A puta is at the bottom of the totem pole among women in MEXICO.
2nd Ask yourself how many Mexican-American chicas or Mexicanas in the the USA have you picked up? Which is nada(zero) thats the chance of you picking up the regular girls in Tijuana.
Now for me ,i can't keep track of the amount of chicas i pick up at Plaza Rio or El centro or Las Pulgas etc.
Thats the advantage of being of Mexican heritage and speaking fluent Espanol with a regional Mexican accento(Bajio accento) Ser Guapo helps out alot and having good verbo(smooth talker).
Can anyone comment on picking up "regular" girls in Tijuana? How do the local girls view the American male tourists? Would spending the day chatting up waitresses, street vendors, and saleswomen get me anywhere or do their family and friends down there form protective bubbles around them like in some cultures such as India and Arabia? Also, what about the regular American girls down there partying? Do you find them to be less stuck up and easier then when they are in the US?
Thanks for any insights.
1. Ignore anything El Tijuanero posts. He has some weird axe to grind, and his posts are argumentative and all over the place.
2. Mexico is a very racist culture. If you're white you'll have more of a problem. However, in any case, if you're talking relatively young, traditional girls, then be prepared to invest a lot of time and effort. Group dates, meeting her family, etc., etc. An older lady, maybe a single mom with kids, not so much. The protective bubble is a good analogy, although so many of the poorer girls get knocked up at such an early age that one wonders how much good it does. One example is a friend of mine's mom. She was married to his father (both parties Mexican). His father died. All the relatives thought she should remain single (apparently more noble, or something). She got married a few years later, which irritated the family. But what really pissed 'em off was that she married a white guy. They basically disowned her. So, good luck. It's doable, but may require more time and money than you're willing to commit.
3. As far as gringas partying in TJ, ewwww. Why bother?? :)
If you were actually doing as well with the chicas as you claim, you would not even bother to read nor would you waste your time posting bs.
Grow up and get you some like the rest of us instead of your fantasy wishful crap. If I was doing as well as you "claim" you are, I would not read nor post here.
I am being honest and not in fear of my manhood. You should try it out for yourself so you will be a happier person.
Country John
12-23-08, 00:54
Here is the truth, Tijuana regular girls would never want to be seen with gringos or non-Latinos, because everybody would think they are working putas in the ZONA.Gringos are just seen as MONgers ,not to good for picking up a normal chica in Tijuana.
I don't want to get off on a rant here, but never say never. For people who care what "everybody would think," the same could be true no matter where you are in the world. That's more of a male Mexican mechanism for dealing with the issue of a Mexican woman preferring a gringo over a Mexicano. Go to Hawaii and fuck with their women, or Guam, or Japan. You get the same shit.
Latina's appreciate clean scrubbed gringos. Especially the gringo know how to behave. The girl knows most have money, don't mind treating them well, so much so that they can, in fact be suckered into handing over the keys to the kingdom. Most latinas I talk to (and I've talked to many) have no problem detailing the preference for Gringos.
Most girls are tired of and resent the shit environment and opportunities handed to them by their male dominated society. Mexican men don't care about their women, generally speaking, and they treat them like shit. It's no secret. Look at how they provide for them, their quality of living etc. Only in the world of the gringo do they get a taste of equality. Some appreciate it, some take advantage of it.
It's true that the family might want to keep it in the culture, but at the end of the day, Mexicans have a much richer racial blood mixture than gringos do, and that includes gringo blood. Look, we're "North Americans." Don't get defensive over a culture that you probably have no respect for yourself. Families come around when they see that the guy's for real.
A puta is at the bottom of the totem pole among women in MEXICO.
Refer to my reply above. Being a PUTA is one of the best opportunities afforded girls in this society, being a puta appears to be one step below "woman." Sure, lots of girls are not putas. Lots and Lots and Lots of 'em. But you know what? Even YOU can't quantify how many putas there are out there because putas do more than circle a brass pipe at Adelita's.
Some work at Dorians, or Plaza Rio, or at the library. The number of people who consider a puta a second class citizen are themselves in that category. Both for having a fucked up sense of what a prostitute is and for not having a mechanism for keeping their women at home.
2nd Ask yourself how many Mexican-American chicas or Mexicanas in the the USA have you picked up? Which is nada(zero) thats the chance of you picking up the regular girls in Tijuana.
Mexican girls love their culture, but what they REALLY like is the ability to enjoy their culture. A willing gringo (like Country John for example) can (and does) enable her to do that and actually participate along with her. I was married to a Mexicana for 15 years in the States. I understand them, so I am not buying the bullshit, neither should anyone else.
Now for me ,i can't keep track of the amount of chicas i pick up at Plaza Rio or El centro or Las Pulgas etc.
There is software that can help you keep track of that.
Thats the advantage of being of Mexican heritage and speaking fluent Espanol with a regional Mexican accento(Bajio accento) Ser Guapo helps out alot and having good verbo(smooth talker).
Smooth talking and smooth thinking are two entirely different things. Being of Mexican heritage by itself means nothing, especially to Mexican girls. You need to spend more time talking to your women, if they are comfortable being honest with you. If you are good looking too, congrats. A lot of us are ugly fuckers.
Whatever universe you set up for yourself seems to be working out just fine for you and at the end of the day, that's all that matters I suppose. I just don't want people to get the wrong idea and actually believe that Latinas have a hard on for the men in their culture over any other. It is simply not true except in circles where they (men) have learned to behave. In this case the girl gets the best of both worlds.
Country John
Member #4450
12-23-08, 01:21
There is software that can help you keep track of that.
Country John
HA-HA!!!!!!!
LOL this one killed me!
Very Funny CJ! :D :D
Rebel Monger
12-23-08, 01:34
Thats the advantage of being of Mexican heritage and speaking fluent Espanol with a regional Mexican accento(Bajio accento) Ser Guapo helps out alot and having good verbo(smooth talker).
In my country of birth they used to say " la suerte del feo la envidia el bonito". Most "guapos" are in love with themselves and it's not uncommon for them to be attracted by those of their same sex. If you know what I mean.
I'm not going to get in a pissing contest with you, but by being a Latino, I can say that I've seen quite a few guys like you who think they're God's gift to humanity. It comes to mind what Emerson said "what you are speak so loudly that I can't hear you're saying".
IMHO, you're just trying to keep people away from your hunting grounds because you're insecure. You are reading and posting in a monger's forum because you have something in common with all of use, you're paying for something you can't get for free. Stop pretending and be a friend. The quality of your life will improve and you'll have plenty of fun.
Member #4450
12-23-08, 01:51
In my country of birth they used to say " la suerte del feo la envidia el bonito". Most "guapos" are in love with themselves and it's not uncommon for them to be attracted by those of their same sex. If you know what I mean.
C'mon give the pretty boy a break, he must be a very cute sweet boy!:D
IMHO, you're just trying to keep people away from your hunting grounds because you're insecure.
you mean insecure like having a small dick or an erection problem?
Never mind , I was referring to a medical term!
Mark_Simon
12-23-08, 04:08
I agree but mexican men are even workse, especially el tijuanense pendejos.
Here is the truth, Tijuana regular girls would never want to be seen with gringos or non-Latinos, because everybody would think they are working putas in the ZONA.Gringos are just seen as MONgers ,not to good for picking up a normal chica in Tijuana.
A puta is at the bottom of the totem pole among women in MEXICO.
2nd Ask yourself how many Mexican-American chicas or Mexicanas in the the USA have you picked up? Which is nada(zero) thats the chance of you picking up the regular girls in Tijuana.
Now for me ,i can't keep track of the amount of chicas i pick up at Plaza Rio or El centro or Las Pulgas etc.
Thats the advantage of being of Mexican heritage and speaking fluent Espanol with a regional Mexican accento(Bajio accento) Ser Guapo helps out alot and having good verbo(smooth talker).
Lol, El Tijuaneros post made my day. His ego is obviously way too big for any one of us to handle. And he's obviously such a ladies man than when he goes to the Zona, the prostitutes pay him for sex. And that he's the only guy that latinas want to be with. :D
He obviously speaks the truth. As he sees it...
Piedras649
12-24-08, 20:58
Here is the truth, Tijuana regular girls would never want to be seen with gringos or non-Latinos, because everybody would think they are working putas in the ZONA.Gringos are just seen as MONgers ,not to good for picking up a normal chica in Tijuana.El Tijuanense,
Soy un estadounidense y su información no es correcto. I am a white assed Americano in my 40's and I recently had a nice date with a native Mexican gal in a very nice restaurant in downtown Matamoros. She is a college student studying English. While I realize this is not the Matamoros forum, I just had to reply. All it takes is this:
Be able to speak even basic Spanish
Be in reasonable physical condition
Don't be "the American asshole"
One can meet all kinds of Mexican women. You do not have to be moreno.
Piedras649
12-24-08, 21:03
Whatever universe you set up for yourself seems to be working out just fine for you and at the end of the day, that's all that matters I suppose. I just don't want people to get the wrong idea and actually believe that Latinas have a hard on for the men in their culture over any other. It is simply not true except in circles where they (men) have learned to behave. In this case the girl gets the best of both worlds.
Country JohnCountry John! I'm sending you a buddy request. Jesus-H that was well written! Are ya sure you weren't holding back?
El Tijuanense
12-24-08, 21:16
1. Ignore anything El Tijuanero posts. He has some weird axe to grind, and his posts are argumentative and all over the place.
2. Mexico is a very racist culture. If you're white you'll have more of a problem. However, in any case, if you're talking relatively young, traditional girls, then be prepared to invest a lot of time and effort. Group dates, meeting her family, etc., etc. An older lady, maybe a single mom with kids, not so much. The protective bubble is a good analogy, although so many of the poorer girls get knocked up at such an early age that one wonders how much good it does. One example is a friend of mine's mom. She was married to his father (both parties Mexican). His father died. All the relatives thought she should remain single (apparently more noble, or something). She got married a few years later, which irritated the family. But what really pissed 'em off was that she married a white guy. They basically disowned her. So, good luck. It's doable, but may require more time and money than you're willing to commit.Phordan thinks he knows Mexican women based on 1 women's expperience ,haha!
El Tijuanense
12-24-08, 21:29
EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted because the subject was not related to the purpose of this Forum, which is as follows:
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex.
El Tijuanense
12-24-08, 21:43
In my country of birth they used to say " la suerte del feo la envidia el bonito". Most "guapos" are in love with themselves and it's not uncommon for them to be attracted by those of their same sex. If you know what I mean.
I'm not going to get in a pissing contest with you, but by being a Latino, I can say that I've seen quite a few guys like you who think they're God's gift to humanity. It comes to mind what Emerson said "what you are speak so loudly that I can't hear you're saying".
IMHO, you're just trying to keep people away from your hunting grounds because you're insecure. You are reading and posting in a monger's forum because you have something in common with all of use, you're paying for something you can't get for free. Stop pretending and be a friend. The quality of your life will improve and you'll have plenty of fun. Rebel monger were are you from? When I go to the Zona is to hangout, I hardly pay for it. If I pay for it I pay 50% off, chicas know me. I bs talk to old chica amigas.
My hunting grounds in Tijuana are Zona Rio, las tiendas del centro las pulgas CLUB etc. I get it gratis. (free)
WHEN I visited the familia in Tijuana in my teens I picked up chicas in those areas. OR THE chicas from the colonia my relatives lived in.
My uncle use to tell us, me and my brothers, that when we visted him, the chicas always came out of their casas and visited my tio. : } We got to know alot of chicas: ] thats the advantage of being of Mexican heritage with relatives in Tijuana or Mexico.
Member #4450
12-26-08, 06:02
My hunting grounds in Tijuana are Zona Rio, las tiendas del centro las pulgas CLUB etc. I get it gratis. (free)
LOL, you're in the wrong forum, this is not a dating site,
all of these places that you're mentioning are off the zona, it has nothing to do with pay for play, I can get free here too, but here we like to pay to get the pussy!
My uncle use to tell us, me and my brothers, that when we visted him, the chicas always came out of their casas and visited my tio. : } We got to know alot of chicas:
That happens very often if they see a tourist from the U.S. in a small town all the girls come to visit because they know you bring $$$
]
that's the advantage of being of Mexican heritage
Didn't you say this already?
Explorer8939
12-26-08, 08:05
Can anyone comment on picking up "regular" girls in Tijuana? How do the local girls view the American male tourists? Would spending the day chatting up waitresses, street vendors, and saleswomen get me anywhere or do their family and friends down there form protective bubbles around them like in some cultures such as India and Arabia?
"Bubble" is the keyword here. A real TJ chica, ie a non-working chica, would be well protected by her family. If this is not the case, then you will find that she is damaged goods in the sense that she is unmarried with children.
Precocious One
12-26-08, 15:49
El Tijuanense,
Soy un estadounidense y su información no es correcto. I am a white assed Americano in my 40's and I recently had a nice date with a native Mexican gal in a very nice restaurant in downtown Matamoros. She is a college student studying English. While I realize this is not the Matamoros forum, I just had to reply. All it takes is this:
Be able to speak even basic Spanish
Be in reasonable physical condition
Don't be "the American asshole"
One can meet all kinds of Mexican women. You do not have to be moreno.
I am a 41 year old American of Asian descent. Since 2005, I have lived on both the Baja side and the Mainland side, off and on, for almost two years. In that period, I have had three non-pro Mexicana girlfriends. Other than being financially secure, speaking Spanish and being in good physical condition
are probably the two attributes that will benefit a monger the most if you are chasing the non-pro action. As for being a disrespectful "American asshole", I cannot comment on that because that is something I generally just don't do, stateside or MX. Treating people with respect in MX is of utmost importance. A small percentage of the American population would not do well living in MX.
More and more, I believe that El Tijuanense is CULERO of the WSG forum. These types of guys should have their own thread so they can sit around a brag to each other how great and gorgeous they are and how all the hoo_ers are in love with them and fu_k them for free. That way other mongers can go to their thread just for amusement purposes or for the observation of somewhat mentally-ill individuals.
I mean, what type of grown man sits around and brags about himself all day on an anonymous sex site?
Country John
12-26-08, 19:26
I am a 41 year old American of Asian descent. Since 2005, I have lived on both the Baja side and the Mainland side, off and on, for almost two years. In that period, I have had three non-pro Mexicana girlfriends. Other than being financially secure, speaking Spanish and being in good physical condition
are probably the two attributes that will benefit a monger the most if you are chasing the non-pro action. As for being a disrespectful "American asshole", I cannot comment on that because that is something I generally just don't do, stateside or MX. Treating people with respect in MX is of utmost importance. A small percentage of the American population would not do well living in MX.
More and more, I believe that El Tijuanense is CULERO of the WSG forum. These types of guys should have their own thread so they can sit around a brag to each other how great and gorgeous they are and how all the hoo_ers are in love with them and fu_k them for free. That way other mongers can go to their thread just for amusement purposes or for the observation of somewhat mentally-ill individuals.
I mean, what type of grown man sits around and brags about himself all day on an anonymous sex site?
Pretty much sums it up, doesn't it?
Country John
Yes, exactly what I think.
Massageman911
12-28-08, 02:35
I have a free 36 hours in San Diego next month before I have to head up to LA for the week.
I need a hotel for Saturday night out of my own pocket. (I am traveling mostly on the company dime).
I would think that staying in TJ for one night would be safe, but since I am traveling with my laptop and other belongings I am concerned about the safety of my belongings while I am mongering.
Can anyone recommend a place to stay in TJ that is afforda ble, close to the zona, clean and safe?
Or should I just stay at a hotel near the airport?
Thanks in advance.
MM
Country John
12-28-08, 03:58
I have a free 36 hours in San Diego next month before I have to head up to LA for the week.
I need a hotel for Saturday night out of my own pocket. (I am traveling mostly on the company dime).
I would think that staying in TJ for one night would be safe, but since I am traveling with my laptop and other belongings I am concerned about the safety of my belongings while I am mongering.
Can anyone recommend a place to stay in TJ that is afforda ble, close to the zona, clean and safe?
Or should I just stay at a hotel near the airport?
Thanks in advance.
MM
Stay at the Pueblo Amigo hotel just across the border. It'll cost you about $90., but it is clean and a decent place that you'll find more than adequate. The rooms are safe and your stuff will be OK there. It's a short Taxi ride to he Zona.
On short notice, it's the best bet..
Grab a cab when you cross, tell him the name of the hotel and in 3 minutes you are there. Try to pay in cash, avoid leaving a credit card number if possible. If you bring a girl back you'll have to register her. Don't worry. they get a lot of that there.
Have a good trip.
Country John
Pablito Diablito
12-28-08, 06:49
I have a free 36 hours in San Diego next month before I have to head up to LA for the week.
I need a hotel for Saturday night out of my own pocket. (I am traveling mostly on the company dime).
I would think that staying in TJ for one night would be safe, but since I am traveling with my laptop and other belongings I am concerned about the safety of my belongings while I am mongering.
Can anyone recommend a place to stay in TJ that is afforda ble, close to the zona, clean and safe?
Or should I just stay at a hotel near the airport?
Thanks in advance.
MMI would be cautious walking around San Ysidro/Tijuana with your laptop, most likely you will not have any problems, but I'd put it in a backpack rather than a laptop case.
If you have the option to drive into Mex (I'm not sure if rentals allow it) Pueblo Amigo is literally 90 seconds from the border (a little longer coming back). You can pull right into the secure parking and avoid walking around downtown San Ysidro with your valuables. Just make sure you get Mexican Insurance, even if you are only driving 1/4 mile into Mexico, it keeps you out of jail in case of an accident. It should cost about $15 for the day. The line can be kind of a ***** on Sunday, so plan to leave early.
I would be cautious walking around San Ysidro/Tijuana with your laptop, most likely you will not have any problems, but I'd put it in a backpack rather than a laptop case.
If you have the option to drive into Mex (I'm not sure if rentals allow it) Pueblo Amigo is literally 90 seconds from the border (a little longer coming back). You can pull right into the secure parking and avoid walking around downtown San Ysidro with your valuables. Just make sure you get Mexican Insurance, even if you are only driving 1/4 mile into Mexico, it keeps you out of jail in case of an accident. It should cost about $15 for the day. The line can be kind of a ***** on Sunday, so plan to leave early.Cheaper and easier to taxi in and out ($10 round trip).
If the zona is the only area you are going, no need worrying about a car in a parking lot.
Toadtamer2
12-28-08, 18:37
Stay in San Diego and take the trolley down to the border. Keep valuables in a safe at the hotel. Make use of taxis after crossing the border. Do research on this site before going.
Country John
12-28-08, 22:10
I would be cautious walking around San Ysidro/Tijuana with your laptop, most likely you will not have any problems, but I'd put it in a backpack rather than a laptop case.
If you have the option to drive into Mex (I'm not sure if rentals allow it) Pueblo Amigo is literally 90 seconds from the border (a little longer coming back). You can pull right into the secure parking and avoid walking around downtown San Ysidro with your valuables. Just make sure you get Mexican Insurance, even if you are only driving 1/4 mile into Mexico, it keeps you out of jail in case of an accident. It should cost about $15 for the day. The line can be kind of a ***** on Sunday, so plan to leave early.
Yes. If you drive in a rented vehicle MAKE CERTAIN YOUR CONTRACT ALLOWS FOR THE VEHICLE TO BE TAKEN INTO MEXICO. Not all rental agencies permit this. Ask first. The cops love stopping rental cars to check this.
Also, allow at least 3 hours for crossing back into the USA at San Ysidro (the same place you came in). If you depart in the morning, leave as early as possible (4am is a good time) during the week as a lot of commuters head state-side to go to work, and it's a LONG wait.
You should really take a taxi there from the border and a taxi back to the pedestrian line when you return. Pick up your rental and head out.
Country John
Sunset Strip
12-28-08, 23:49
I would be cautious walking around San Ysidro/Tijuana with your laptop, most likely you will not have any problems, but I'd put it in a backpack rather than a laptop case.
If you have the option to drive into Mex (I'm not sure if rentals allow it) Pueblo Amigo is literally 90 seconds from the border (a little longer coming back). You can pull right into the secure parking and avoid walking around downtown San Ysidro with your valuables. Just make sure you get Mexican Insurance, even if you are only driving 1/4 mile into Mexico, it keeps you out of jail in case of an accident. It should cost about $15 for the day. The line can be kind of a ***** on Sunday, so plan to leave early.
I concur that Pueblo Amigo is a good spot. here is the website:
http://www.hotelpuebloamigo.com/
Price is good, too.
Another choice would be the Leyva. New rooms #6-15 or something like that. You will be in the Zona. A lot of regular gringos are there and easily share information on the scene. If you like a change of pace, you can bring a street girl back. No problem with as many girls as you want even threesomes are cool. The security is great. Take a taxi.
01152-664-688-3956. PM me for more details. SDC
I have a free 36 hours in San Diego next month before I have to head up to LA for the week.
I need a hotel for Saturday night out of my own pocket. (I am traveling mostly on the company dime).
I would think that staying in TJ for one night would be safe, but since I am traveling with my laptop and other belongings I am concerned about the safety of my belongings while I am mongering.
Can anyone recommend a place to stay in TJ that is afforda ble, close to the zona, clean and safe?
Or should I just stay at a hotel near the airport?
Thanks in advance.
MM
Precocious One
12-29-08, 20:18
I have a free 36 hours in San Diego next month before I have to head up to LA for the week.
I need a hotel for Saturday night out of my own pocket. (I am traveling mostly on the company dime).
I would think that staying in TJ for one night would be safe, but since I am traveling with my laptop and other belongings I am concerned about the safety of my belongings while I am mongering.
Can anyone recommend a place to stay in TJ that is afforda ble, close to the zona, clean and safe?
Or should I just stay at a hotel near the airport?
Thanks in advance.
MM
Although it has been a while, I have had good luck at the Hotel Lurcerna. It is about a $5.00 taxi ride to the Zona but it is safe and secure. They also have a great Sunday buffet. Also, it's very close to the Caliente Sports Book if that's your sort of thing.
El Tijuanense
12-30-08, 07:53
That happens very often if they see a tourist from the U.S. in a small town all the girls come to visit because they know you bring $$$Horny travelar,
Since when was Tijuana in the mid 80's a small town? And i was 15-17 years old ? I didn't have any dinero back then.
It was obvious that the neighborhood chicas went to visit my uncle when our family visited him, me and my brothers are gallos with looks
I dated a few :}
El Tijuanense
12-30-08, 08:06
I am a 41 year old American of Asian descent. Since 2005, I have lived on both the Baja side and the Mainland side, off and on, for almost two years. In that period, I have had three non-pro Mexicana girlfriends.
Thats hard to believe,probably zona hoes.
Other than being financially secure, speaking Spanish and being in good physical condition are probably the two attributes that will benefit a monger the most if you are chasing the non-pro action.I see alot of poor Mexicanos with hot civilian chicas,they don't need the dinero to attract the chicas. It's sad the that mongers who are non-Mexican need so many"qualities' to atract civilian chicas. lol
More and more, I believe that El Tijuanense is CULERO of the WSG forum.
Stop calling me culero. I might be arrogant but that doesn't make me a culero.
These types of guys should have their own thread so they can sit around a brag to each other how great and gorgeous they are and how all the hoo_ers are in love with them and fu_k them for free.pure envidia(envy) imagne if you saw me.
I never said that i fuked hos for free, but i have fuked over 100 Mexicanas and even more Chicanas for free. It's natural ,im of Mexican heritage and has the looks that Mexicanas-Chicanas love.==>> no money can buy.
Who will get more Mexicanas for free someone who looks like Oscar De La Hoya OR the Los Angeles mayor Antonio Villaraigosa(both are major players) VS someone who looks like bruce lee or white rapper emenim ??
It's so obvious homie
Can anyone recommend a place to stay in TJ that is affordable, close to the zona, clean and safe?
MMThis list might help:
http://mexicolindobar.com/Tijuana_Hotels_Motels.html
I have a free 36 hours in San Diego next month before I have to head up to LA for the week.
I need a hotel for Saturday night out of my own pocket. (I am traveling mostly on the company dime).
I would think that staying in TJ for one night would be safe, but since I am traveling with my laptop and other belongings I am concerned about the safety of my belongings while I am mongering.Cbp now has a policy that allows them to "examine" any electronic device that you are bringing across the border. "Examine" for laptops includes having you boot up your computer, surrender any passwords needed to access it, removing the computer from your possession for "examination" (they will copy the hard drives off site), and then return it to you within a "reasonable period of time" (up to 6 wks later has been reported). Astute (security minded) businesses are now issuing "throw away" phones and "sanititzed" laptops to those traveling on business.
This policy also applies to cell phones, cameras, etc. While you may not have them taken this time doesn't mean that they can't.
I would not take mine across if I anticipated needing it for anything in the next few weeks or if there were information that I might not want to share.
Massageman911
12-31-08, 03:06
Thanks to everyone for the advice.
I think for safety, I will get a hotel near the airport and take the rental to the parking lot behind the jack in the box.
Cross the border and taxi to the zona.
Thanks again
Pablito Diablito
12-31-08, 19:13
Thats hard to believe,probably zona hoes.
I see alot of poor Mexicanos with hot civilian chicas,they don't need the dinero to attract the chicas. It's sad the that mongers who are non-Mexican need so many"qualities' to atract civilian chicas. lol
Stop calling me culero. I might be arrogant but that doesn't make me a culero.
pure envidia(envy) imagne if you saw me.
I never said that i fuked hos for free, but i have fuked over 100 Mexicanas and even more Chicanas for free. It's natural ,im of Mexican heritage and has the looks that Mexicanas-Chicanas love.==>> no money can buy.
Who will get more Mexicanas for free someone who looks like Oscar De La Hoya OR the Los Angeles mayor Antonio Villaraigosa(both are major players) VS someone who looks like bruce lee or white rapper emenim ??
It's so obvious homieVillariagosa, come on, that guy is like Vanilla Ice, a one hit wonder. Had he been doing a better job in LA he could have been catapulted into the national spot light. He does run LA like he's still in the third world though, with strict adherence to the patron system. I have always said that LA is the most third world place I've been to.
Member #4450
12-31-08, 22:21
Horny travelar,
Since when was Tijuana in the mid 80's a small town? And i was 15-17 years old ? I didn't have any dinero back then.
It was obvious that the neighborhood chicas went to visit my uncle when our family visited him, me and my brothers are gallos with looks
I dated a few :}
I mean a small town in TJ, not TJ a small town.
LOL! mid 80s were $5 dollars to get local girl, besides you can't compare when a teen,and an adult, comparing apples and oranges, I fucked free when was a teen LOL, I didn't have money for anything either maybe for movie and popcorn LOL, so yeah when 15-17 it is normal to get free pussy.
Why you like to show off here with your hot looks, this is a straight guy forum!
Cbp now has a policy that allows them to "examine" any electronic device that you are bringing across the border. "Examine" for laptops includes having you boot up your computer, surrender any passwords needed to access it, removing the computer from your possession for "examination" (they will copy the hard drives off site), and then return it to you within a "reasonable period of time" (up to 6 wks later has been reported). Astute (security minded) businesses are now issuing "throw away" phones and "sanititzed" laptops to those traveling on business.
This policy also applies to cell phones, cameras, etc. While you may not have them taken this time doesn't mean that they can't.
I would not take mine across if I anticipated needing it for anything in the next few weeks or if there were information that I might not want to share.I wouldn't worry about it too much. Just get a nice hotel. Almost all have wireless internet. It is totaly safe to take your laptop with you. I do it all the time and never worry about it. Make sure no porn on it though in case they do check it.
The above is good advice, but it is the extreme. Been pulled over 20+ times and never had them check my laptop or phone. So if you stay at one of the nicer hotels you'll be fine. Lock it in your trunk!
Just my two cents.
i have a free 36 hours in san diego next month. i need a hotel for saturday night out of my own pocket. i am concerned about the safety of my belongings. i recommend staying on the u.s. side and "commuting" to tj.
as noted elsewhere in this thread if you enter the united states with a laptop the authorities reserve the right to confirep001e it for "examination." if it's a company computer you're going to have a hard time explaining that to the boss. even if it's a personal machine, do you really want the federal government making a copy of your hard drive?
moreover, the original poster is concerned about having his laptop or other valuables stolen out of his hotel. if he stays in tijuana he faces a hobson's choice. he can pay big money to stay in a four star place like the hotel real del rio where he knows his stuff will be safe. or he can stay in the more modestly priced digs and worry that his things will get stolen. if he stays in the united states he can find a decent room at a good price for one night where his valuables will be secure.
finally i surmise from his low post count that the original poster is a novice when it comes to the tijuana scene. he's just trying to squeeze in a little fun on a business trip by getting laid in the zona norte. he doesn't need the hassle of lugging all of his things across the border and back in a 36 hour time frame, or dealing with some dodgy hotel. he's not trying out to be the next host of globe trekker.
my advice would be to stay in chula vista. more specifically i would recommend one of the hotels on e street near interstate 5. if he's on a tight budget the motel 6 is perfectly serviceable. if he's willing to spend a little more the days inn and the best western south bay are a step up. (at least if you get a king room at the best western. the queen rooms, especially those in the buildings toward the rear of the property, are pretty much the same as the rooms at the motel 6.) and if he can afford $90+ per night the newly-renovated comfort inn & suites has very nice king rooms and king suites.
if he's got a car he can hop on the freeway and be at the border in ten minutes. if he'd prefer to use public transit the trolley stop is a five minute stroll from any of those hotels. there are all kinds of restaurants there, plus a grocery story, laundromat, etc. etc. etc. driving up to los angeles on a sunday night should take about two-and-a-half hours, traffic permitting.
finally, the original poster should read the brockton o'toole tijuana guide, which can be found on this site. it is simply invaluable for the zona norte novice.
bunky
If you are from out of town a good place to store your valuables is at the downtown Greyhound station. Usually you need a ticket to get to the lobby but if you tell the guard you will be traveling "tomorrow" he will let you by and you can use their storage lockers. Very secure, you get a code and pay when you pick up your belongings (all electronic). I am from the midwest and fly frequently to S. D. When I hit the zona I just leave all my work stuff at the Greyhound station.
Aztk420
Ps. The station is closed the trolley that takes you to San Ysidro.
El Tijuanense
01-07-09, 05:51
Villariagosa, come on, that guy is like Vanilla Ice, a one hit wonder. Had he been doing a better job in LA he could have been catapulted into the national spot light. He does run LA like he's still in the third world though, with strict adherence to the patron system. I have always said that LA is the most third world place I've been to.But he isn't a one hit wonder with chicas. Did you see the Telemundo reporter he was banging?
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Massageman911
01-07-09, 07:27
bunky,
you somewhat hit the nail on the head. i am on business, with 36 hours to kill on either side of a trip to la. i am a novice in that i have been to tijuana only 5 times (live on the east coast).
i have been to boys town a few times back in 96 and 97 but not since. back then i would drive from dallas and drive over to boys town, but that was before.
i ended up getting a priceline 4star hotel for $55 for the upcomming trip next to san airport. i do like my comfort when traveling so a dodgy hotel is out of the question as long as price line can hook me up.
yes i have a rental from fox rental $10 a day for a mid sized. and yes, i will be staying on the u. s. side and "commuting" to tijuana.
thanks again.
mm
i recommend staying on the u.s. side and "commuting" to tj.
as noted elsewhere in this thread if you enter the united states with a laptop the authorities reserve the right to confirep001e it for "examination." if it's a company computer you're going to have a hard time explaining that to the boss. even if it's a personal machine, do you really want the federal government making a copy of your hard drive?
moreover, the original poster is concerned about having his laptop or other valuables stolen out of his hotel. if he stays in tijuana he faces a hobson's choice. he can pay big money to stay in a four star place like the hotel real del rio where he knows his stuff will be safe. or he can stay in the more modestly priced digs and worry that his things will get stolen. if he stays in the united states he can find a decent room at a good price for one night where his valuables will be secure.
finally i surmise from his low post count that the original poster is a novice when it comes to the tijuana scene. he's just trying to squeeze in a little fun on a business trip by getting laid in the zona norte. he doesn't need the hassle of lugging all of his things across the border and back in a 36 hour time frame, or dealing with some dodgy hotel. he's not trying out to be the next host of globe trekker.
my advice would be to stay in chula vista. more specifically i would recommend one of the hotels on e street near interstate 5. if he's on a tight budget the motel 6 is perfectly serviceable. if he's willing to spend a little more the days inn and the best western south bay are a step up. (at least if you get a king room at the best western. the queen rooms, especially those in the buildings toward the rear of the property, are pretty much the same as the rooms at the motel 6.) and if he can afford $90+ per night the newly-renovated comfort inn & suites has very nice king rooms and king suites.
if he's got a car he can hop on the freeway and be at the border in ten minutes. if he'd prefer to use public transit the trolley stop is a five minute stroll from any of those hotels. there are all kinds of restaurants there, plus a grocery story, laundromat, etc. etc. etc. driving up to los angeles on a sunday night should take about two-and-a-half hours, traffic permitting.
finally, the original poster should read the brockton o'toole tijuana guide, which can be found on this site. it is simply invaluable for the zona norte novice.
bunky
Massageman911
01-07-09, 07:39
Several of you nicer mongers :) have mentioned a trolly.
I checked for a map online but came up blank.
Does the trolly go near the airport, the one that stops at the entrance to TJ?
Thanks a million.
MM
I have a rental from FOX rental $10 a day for a mid sized, and yes I will be staying on the U.S. side and "commuting" to Tijuana.For the novice traveler, or somebody who is just trying to squeeze in a little play time during a business trip, this is definitely the smart move.
I ended up getting a hotel for $55 next to SAN airport. I do like my comfort when traveling so a dodgy hotel is out of the question.I'm sure this hotel will be comfortable and your belongs secure. The only concern I have with staying near the airport is that it doubles the length of the drive back to your hotel from the border. I realize that some gents like to have a few adult beverages while visiting the Zona Norte, and for those guys I think it's smart to stay closer to the border, the better to have a shorter drive back to the hotel. The hotels on E Street in Chula Vista also have the advantage of being very close to the freeway. If you stay near the airport you have to get off the freeway and drive a bit.
Now if you do not imbibe at all, or if you drink but only a little, this isn't a concern. I just mention it because some guys do partake and for them I think it's wise to reduce the risk of getting busted for DUI.
Bunky
Country John
01-07-09, 20:02
I do like my comfort when traveling so a dodgy hotel is out of the question as long as price line can hook me up.
MM
I am certain you already read Brockton's tutorial. Having done that you'll be aware that you'll be exposed to dodgy motels while banging hookers in the Zona Norte.
Cobra Comander
01-08-09, 01:09
Several of you nicer mongers :) have mentioned a trolly.
I checked for a map online but came up blank.
Does the trolly go near the airport, the one that stops at the entrance to TJ?
Thanks a million.
MM
http://www.sdcommute.com/Services/Default.aspx
CC
To: CobraCommander
You take the 992 bus/shuttle for a 5 minute bus ride into the city and get off at the Amtrak Station and then catch the blue line trolley to San Ysidro, dont forget to also stop by the Greyhound station downtown before getting on the train and you can leave any valuables at an automated storage locker (max 30 days).
Aztk
Massageman911
01-08-09, 04:51
Thanks the Map is exactly what I wanted.
IT seems that the Sheraton Suites San Diego is a few blocks from the blue line.
Also that the trolly is about 45 min to the border and the car is 20 min.
I will NOT be drinking too much so being to drunk to drive is not a problem, so I assume if I want maximum comfort, I should take my car.
Lastly I have been to AB a few times in the past, but never on a Sat.
Is Sat afternoon a decent time to go since I hate crowds?
Also what time on Sunday does AB open and what is the better time to go on a Sunday so I can beat the "crowds"
Thanks again to everyone.
MM
http://www.sdcommute.com/Services/Default.aspx
CC
Cobra Comander
01-08-09, 21:07
To: CobraCommander
You take the 992 bus/shuttle for a 5 minute bus ride into the city and get off at the Amtrak Station and then catch the blue line trolley to San Ysidro, dont forget to also stop by the Greyhound station downtown before getting on the train and you can leave any valuables at an automated storage locker (max 30 days).
Aztk
I live in San Diego.
I just take the Trolley so I have more time to sober up before driving.
CC
I know it's been asked before, but what's the best option to reach the San Diego trolly from L.A.? Amtrak from the Santa Ana bus depot?
Cheapest and most efficient way would be by tres estrellas for 27 dollars from OC. But I don't even know where or what tres estrellas is.
Blue Balls Hurt
01-09-09, 07:56
I know it's been asked before, but what's the best option to reach the San Diego trolly from L.A.? Amtrak from the Santa Ana bus depot?Amtrak is ok because they serve beer on the train, but the trolley could be a nightmare because it makes stops every 2 minutes. If I remember, a round trip ticket is around $55. I use to take the greyhound from santa ana to san ysidro for $30 round trip and the greyhound stops at the border exit. The reason why I don't take it now is because I don't like their schedule.
The opportunity came up when a fellow monger invited me to Tijuana. I had not been to Tijuana in almost 10 years so I was almost like a newbie again so alot of my report is on the basics.
Tijuana no longer smells?
We drove down, parked and walked across the border. As we passed through the turnstile the first thing I noticed was the Tijuana smell was missing. There used to be this sickly sweet stench as you entered Tijuana. Maybe in the summer the stench will return but this time it was pleasantly missing. We grabbed a cab and went to the hotel Marriot to check in. I had only been to Tijuana a few times and only for the day. This was the first time I was spending the night.
Hotel Marriot
This is a nice hotel. Almost too nice for Tijuana. Our room ran $100 for the night which was expensive but I was going with the flow. Next time I might try to get one of the cheaper hotels closer to the action. Mongers. Is there a middle of the road gringo favorite hotel that is walking distance to Adelitas? Something around $50 that is motel 6 quality? .
Adelitas
We arrive Adelitas around 2pm and I am very impressed with the talent. It has greatly improved in 10 years IMO. Lots of impressive flacas, very few gorditas. We get a beer and in 5 minutes I get approached by a cute girl who is from Puebla.
Cutie from Puebla
She almost looks a little asian by the way she has her eye makeup. She is from Puebla and her name is whatever. (I’m sorry I can never remember their names). She is very cute and starts rubbing on me which feels great. I have this huge smile on my face and I know I look like a total ringer but I can't help it. She asks if I will buy her a drink and I concede. I know the ficha fuck thing is in effect but I don’t get to Tijuana very often so I’m gonna enjoy my mini vacation. The ladies drink is $8 and lasts you about 5-10 minutes and warms the girl up to you a little. They’ll let your hands roam freely during this time so have some fun. When the ladies drink is up I let her work it a while as she tries to sell me on going upstairs. I don’t last long. A few minutes maybe haha. My monger buds are shaking their heads saying geez, he didn’t last one hour. She quotes me $60 and I accept and off we go to room. She has a little baby fat around her waist but natural tits and is fun in the sack. I completely forgot about the money in the room and she doesn’t ask for it. Afterwards I give her $60 plus a $7 tip which is the change I had left in small bills. She seems very happy and we both freshen up. I tip the cum mop guy $2 as we leave the room. As I hand him the tip another young guy rushes over and says where is mine? This guy must be the assistant to the cum mop guy. I thought being the cum mop guy was the low rung on the totem pole but apparently there is a spot lower. Assistant to the cum mop guy. I tell him the chief cum guy has his tip and walk off. I make it back to Adelitas and my monger friends want to leave and walk around.
Hong Kong
We visit Hong Kong and they have this Jacuzzi tub filled with two chicks sitting on the edge completely nude with their legs spread. Their pussies are completely shaved, wide open and glistening wet from the water. I would have stayed there all day if I could. However, the lame ass waiters kept crowding in front of me. At one point there were four waiters blocking the view. These guys can really be a pain in the ass. They are like flies and you constantly have to shoo them away. Very annoyed because these four assholes won't get out of the way and by now a decent crowd has grown further blocking my view of the clam show. I didn’t care much for the Hong Kong talent but that Jacuzzi show really rocked my boat. Kudos to them for that.
Alley and other bars
We hit the alley and the talent is very nice. Lots of doable chicas in every size and shape. Price quoted is $20 and $5 for the room. We did not partake but its very fun to window shop. We pop into the various bars and places around there. I don’t remember the bars names but you know what I’m talking about. A few of the bars are so fucking loud that I cannot hear a word the chicas are saying to me. I don’t know why these MC types need to be so loud. I saw one monger with ear plugs in his ears and thought that was a smart idea.
Back at Adelitas its time for my wingman to have a session so I grab a seat at the back bar and wait for him. The ratio is about 3x1 girls to guys. I’m sitting alone at the bar so I’m a prime target. The chicas start approaching me and prod me for ladies drinks and company. One after another. They would ask for a ladies drink and I would politely decline. Then they would counter with. Then give me a dollar. As a joke I told one chica that had a nice rack to let me suck her tits and I would give her a dollar. Without hesitation she whips out her right tit and sticks it in my face. It’s a really nice natural tittie with a big brown nipple. I suck on it for 3-4 seconds. Yum. That’s worth a buck, so I tip her. About a two minutes later a different chick approaches me from behind and prods me for a tip and we repeat the same drill. These chicas watch what one does and just repeat it. So you can you see where this is going. In the span of 40 minutes I must have sucked or groped on 5 different sets of titties. It was great and cost me less than 20 bucks. (One chica I did buy a drink for). She wasn’t the prettiest one but she had great tits and was really trying hard which I like.
Adelitas at night
After some rest and recharge we head back to Adelitas about midnight. There are a lot more people and it seems more business like and more competitive. The guys all seem like they are trying to act hard and the chicas appear very stand offish and all business. Its not a fun mood and I’m not into it. We do hit this taco stand outside and had the most incredible tacos. As I'm standing outside Adelitas I notice what appear to be bullet holes in the wall? I try not to think about it. We hang out for a few hours and repeat our laps but in the end I don’t session and head back to hotel.
Mermaids
We get up early and head down to check out Mermaids. I had read about it but never been in there. We arrive about 10: 30 and walk in. The bar is a nice. Much nicer than I thought. But, its empty except for three guys watching soccer. I wander around looking around and as I’m about to leave get approached by a guy who I think was named Mike. He explains that it is $40 for the hour and then you negotiate with the girl for any extras. There are no girls but he says can get them here quick. I’m skeptical but he assures me. I tell him I’ll wait and he asks me if I would like a drink. I order a water and get charged $2 for it. A little annoyed I wait. About 10 minutes later he tells me the girls are here and he walks me outside and up a narrow flight of stairs. We enter a room and there are eight chicas facing me! Wow, this guy wasn’t kidding. They all were decent looking (mostly 7’s) which was pretty impressive I thought for a Sunday morning with no advance notice. It’s a buyers market boys? . I sit down and they line up in front of me. He instructs them to sound off their names and they do so. I look at each of them as we go down the line. He then asks me which one I like. Its very awkward. I pick a young cutie who keeps smiling at me. She looks fun. The other 7 immediately turn and walk out. In the room I’m not sure of protocol. She speaks no English and my Spanish is rusty at best. I just take off my clothes and lay down. She disrobes down to her bra and skirt and then starts a lame massage with some cheap lotion. Why she has lotion instead of oil I do not know. She has to keep squirting more lotion on me. I let her do the massage and see where it will go. After a while she seems to grow tired of rubbing me and I turn over. I’m used to the asian massage parlors so motion for hand job. She disrobes down to her gstring and then does a good job of working me to finish. Afterwards she tries to tell me that the handjob is extra and that its not included with the $40. Its actually kind of cute as she tries to politely explain this to me and I let her go a few seconds and feign ignorance before I stop her. I tell her claro claro and she seems very relieved. I pay her $50 and she seems happy. I’m not sure what is going rate here guys. Let me know. I like this place and would return.
Getting across the border without a passport
Its time to head back across the border and back to reality. I announce to my group that I do not have a passport and only have a drivers license. My group says they hope I don’t get detained because they will leave me if I do. You have to love mongers for their brutal honesty. No issues getting back across with a drivers license but I think in 2009 this might be changing so next time passport for me just to be safe.
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I know it's been asked before, but what's the best option to reach the San Diego trolly from L.A.? Amtrak from the Santa Ana bus depot?
OK. Last time. Pay attention.
Amtrak to SAN. Get off, cross the street, going East, to Plaza Americas. Buy an all-day ticket ($5) and take the BLUE LINE south to San Ysidro. Get off at the last stop. Walk over the pedestrian bridge. Go into TJ. Go to LZN. Pork Chicas and drink beer. Taxi back to SENTRI line. Cross border. Exit building and get on trolley. Get off at Plaza Americas. Cross street west and go into train station. Get on NB train. Get off train wherever you got on.
Repeat as necessary.
:D :D :D
Tijuana no longer smells?
We drove down, parked and walked across the border. As we passed through the turnstile the first thing I noticed was the Tijuana smell was missing. There used to be this sickly sweet stench as you entered Tijuana. Maybe in the summer the stench will return but this time it was pleasantly missing. We grabbed a cab and went to the hotel Marriot to check in. I had only been to Tijuana a few times and only for the day. This was the first time I was spending the night.
Hotel Marriot
This is a nice hotel. Almost too nice for Tijuana. Our room ran $100 for the night which was expensive but I was going with the flow. Next time I might try to get one of the cheaper hotels closer to the action. Mongers. Is there a middle of the road gringo favorite hotel that is walking distance to Adelitas? Something around $50 that is motel 6 quality?
Thanks for the TR.
Now that you mention it, TJ doesn't have that odd smell. Or, at least it's a lot less noticeable. I always associated that smell with TJ, and Mexico in general. I *THINK* it was from their particular blend of gasoline, but I'm not sure. Now that it's all unleaded, and presumably close to the US blends, I'm guessing the car exhaust is a lot cleaner than it used to be, hence the reduction in smell. IMHO.
I just got back last night. I usually get a room at the Espana hotel on Revu. It's South of Carrillo Puerto, East side of the street, mid-block. Across from Sanborn's. What I was surprised to find is their prices are in pesos, and they have not adjusted for the dollar increase. It's $350MN for a night, S - Th. This used to be $35, but now it's $28. Great bargain. Clean rooms, decent bed, fairly recent remodel, heat, TV, clean shower. Much like a Motel 6. Easy walk to La Zona.
I will NOT be drinking too much so being to drunk to drive is not a problem, so I assume if I want maximum comfort, I should take my car.Correct. The entrance into Mexico is on the west side of the freeway and the gate back into the United States is on the east side. So you have to walk up and over the massive complex at least once. I prefer doing that early in the evening when I'm fresh, so I park on the east side behind the Jack In The Box. If you'd rather get a quick start on your evening park on the west side near the duty free shop. From there the southbound pedestrian gate is only steps away.
Is Sat afternoon a decent time to go since I hate crowds? Also what time on Sunday does AB open and what is the better time to go on a Sunday so I can beat the "crowds?"Saturday afternoon will be fine, especially in January when the action slows down a little bit. After lunch you'll have most of the place to yourself, then it will pick up toward sundown. The night shift girls and the guys who love them won't arrive until after 8:00 p.m. Sunday will be slower still, especially early. But if you're patient you'll find somebody to bang.
Bunky
Depeche Mode
01-10-09, 10:11
Hey Mnpnu, NICE REPORT! I loved it.
Here is some Mermaids Intel and experiences.
Apparently the going rate varies, but they will start at around 100 bucks for 1 hour fuck. I brought it down to 80.
From my experience, I was able to eat at the Y, and some dope DFK. This DFK is what legends are made of, it made me go back a week later! And is actually still in my mind, there is a 99 percent chance of me going back to Mermaids just for the DFK. The chick I got had a lip piercing. Last time I was in Tijuana was for Halloween, I swear I saw a sign at mermaids saying '2 girls for 1 massage'. That would be CRAZY! I would love to try that. I think thats all the info I have.
Country John
01-10-09, 19:29
The odor will return, You may recall we've had quite a bit of rain over the past several weeks, that cleaned things up a bit. But have no fear. As soon as we get several weeks of hot sunny weather, TJ will regain it's familiar odor, the one we miss.
Country John
Victor Shanahan
01-11-09, 01:44
Does anybody have any information about the current status of re-entry requirements to the United States? I heard that they were going to require all people to present passports to enter the United States from Mexico on foot. Have they implimented that yet? Last time I was in Mexico I only had to show a drivers license and a birth certificate.
Does anybody have any information about the current status of re-entry requirements to the United States? I heard that they were going to require all people to present passports to enter the United States from Mexico on foot.1. Search this forum for the word "passport." You'll find dozens of posts on this topic. Or go back one level and read the Brockton O'Toole FAQ, which also answers the question.
2. Or you can Google "Mexico" and "passport."
3. If you really want to get fancy you can surf over to the State Department website, where the answer is just a few clicks away.
4. Going forward, try not to be such an inconsiderate clueless newbie.
Bunky
1. Search this forum for the word "passport." You'll find dozens of posts on this topic. Or go back one level and read the Brockton O'Toole FAQ, which also answers the question.
2. Or you can Google "Mexico" and "passport."
3. If you really want to get fancy you can surf over to the State Department website, where the answer is just a few clicks away.
4. Going forward, try not to be such an inconsiderate clueless newbie.
Bunky
Now, now; we were all newbies at one time. Fortunately I read the forum for a while before asking an obvious newbie question, but that could just be chalked up to dumb luck.
Victor may not know exactly how this forum works. Time will tell if he is stupid or lazy; he may not be either.
A good rule of thumb given by others to newbies is to RFF, read the fucking forum, especially Brockton’s thread. After that all dumb questions are fair game.
Does anybody have any information about the current status of re-entry requirements to the United States? I heard that they were going to require all people to present passports to enter the United States from Mexico on foot. Have they implimented that yet? Last time I was in Mexico I only had to show a drivers license and a birth certificate.The date for passports keeps getting postponed.
Right now (current) drivers license and birth certificate will work but not for much longer.
Oh and RTFF :)
Victor Shanahan
01-11-09, 15:50
1. Search this forum for the word "passport." You'll find dozens of posts on this topic. Or go back one level and read the Brockton O'Toole FAQ, which also answers the question.
2. Or you can Google "Mexico" and "passport."
3. If you really want to get fancy you can surf over to the State Department website, where the answer is just a few clicks away.
4. Going forward, try not to be such an inconsiderate clueless newbie.
Bunky
Now, now; we were all newbies at one time. Fortunately I read the forum for a while before asking an obvious newbie question, but that could just be chalked up to dumb luck.
Victor may not know exactly how this forum works. Time will tell if he is stupid or lazy; he may not be either.
A good rule of thumb given by others to newbies is to RFF, read the fucking forum, especially Brockton’s thread. After that all dumb questions are fair game.As it happens, I just returned from a visit to Tijuana, having obtained the information I was seeking by other means. I was about to post a detailed report of my experiences there, but now it seems that my time and energy would be better spent elsewhere.
In the time Bunky spent insulting me for supposedly being "lazy" or "stupid, " he could have given me the information I sought, refered me to a place where I might find the information I was seeking, or, if he didn't believe my post was worthy of his attention, he could have simply ignored it.
If this sort of conduct is an example of "exactly how this forum works, " then this forum, quite frankly, doesn't work very well. As I said before, it seems that my time and energy would be better spent elsewhere.
Precocious One
01-11-09, 16:52
As it happens, I just returned from a visit to Tijuana, having obtained the information I was seeking by other means. I was about to post a detailed report of my experiences there, but now it seems that my time and energy would be better spent elsewhere.
In the time Bunky spent insulting me for supposedly being "lazy" or "stupid, " he could have given me the information I sought, refered me to a place where I might find the information I was seeking, or, if he didn't believe my post was worthy of his attention, he could have simply ignored it.
If this sort of conduct is an example of "exactly how this forum works, " then this forum, quite frankly, doesn't work very well. As I said before, it seems that my time and energy would be better spent elsewhere.
Victor-
I returned back to the U.S. at the end of October 2008. At that time, a passport or birth certificate was not needed on the mainland side(Laredo). However, they did an extensive search of my vehicle which lasted at least ten minutes even though the drug dogs never gave them reason.
If you can, post your trip report as it will be welcomed by most here. When I was a newbie I ran into a couple serious dickheads on this board. Don't take it personal and by all means do not let someone deter you from posting.
As it happens, I just returned from a visit to Tijuana, having obtained the information I was seeking by other means. I was about to post a detailed report of my experiences there, but now it seems that my time and energy would be better spent elsewhere.
In the time Bunky spent insulting me for supposedly being "lazy" or "stupid, " he could have given me the information I sought, refered me to a place where I might find the information I was seeking, or, if he didn't believe my post was worthy of his attention, he could have simply ignored it.
If this sort of conduct is an example of "exactly how this forum works, " then this forum, quite frankly, doesn't work very well. As I said before, it seems that my time and energy would be better spent elsewhere.
Geez, I didn’t think trying to stick up for you would actually hurt your feelings. By the way if you want to know “how this forum works”; RTFF.
I’m used to the asian massage parlors so motion for hand job. She disrobes down to her gstring and then does a good job of working me to finish.
Nice report Mnpnu.
Lol, I've never tried an asian massage parlor. What exactly is the AMP etiquette for gesturing that you want a HJ? :)
OK. Last time. Pay attention.
Amtrak to SAN. Get off, cross the street, going East, to Plaza Americas. Buy an all-day ticket ($5) and take the BLUE LINE south to San Ysidro. Get off at the last stop. Walk over the pedestrian bridge. Go into TJ. Go to LZN. Pork Chicas and drink beer. Taxi back to SENTRI line. Cross border. Exit building and get on trolley. Get off at Plaza Americas. Cross street west and go into train station. Get on NB train. Get off train wherever you got on.
Repeat as necessary.
:D :D :D
Sounds cool, but just a few questions. How much is the Amtrak ticket? And is there a cheaper all-day option as well for Amtrak? What's an NB train? Can I take the Amtrak from the Santa Ana bus depot? And all together including the trolley ride, how much time am I looking at until I reach Tj? And how much money will i spend for the two way trip?
As it happens, I just returned from a visit to Tijuana, having obtained the information I was seeking by other means. I was about to post a detailed report of my experiences there, but now it seems that my time and energy would be better spent elsewhere.
In the time Bunky spent insulting me for supposedly being "lazy" or "stupid, " he could have given me the information I sought, refered me to a place where I might find the information I was seeking, or, if he didn't believe my post was worthy of his attention, he could have simply ignored it.
If this sort of conduct is an example of "exactly how this forum works, " then this forum, quite frankly, doesn't work very well. As I said before, it seems that my time and energy would be better spent elsewhere.
You must be new to the internet. Welcome.
But if you're not then you must know by now not to take online comments with a grain of salt. Cause the annonimity of the internet allows people to feel free to be jerks with others. Kind of like what I'm doing now by writing this. But if you still feel all butt hurt and want to leave these forums forever, feel free to do so. But if you can learn to look the other way and ignore certain comments like most everyone else on the internet has learned to do, then we would love to hear your reports. Because sharing reports is really what this forum is about.
Incase you don't, then goodbye and goodluck in all your future mongering endeavours.
P.S. I really wouldn't consider that the comments said about you where personal attacks anyways.
Nice report Mnpnu.
Lol, I've never tried an asian massage parlor. What exactly is the AMP etiquette for gesturing that you want a HJ? :)
Sounds cool, but just a few questions. How much is the Amtrak ticket? And is there a cheaper all-day option as well for Amtrak? What's an NB train? Can I take the Amtrak from the Santa Ana bus depot? And all together including the trolley ride, how much time am I looking at until I reach Tj? And how much money will i spend for the two way trip?
But if you're not then you must know by now not to take online comments with a grain of salt. Cause the annonimity of the internet allows people to feel free to be jerks with others. Kind of like what I'm doing now by writing this. But if you still feel all butt hurt and want to leave these forums forever, feel free to do so. But if you can learn to look the other way and ignore certain comments like most everyone else on the internet has learned to do, then we would love to hear your reports. Because sharing reports is really what this forum is about.
P.S. I really wouldn't consider that the comments said about you where personal attacks anyways.
1. Enter massage room
2. Take off clothes
3. Lie onback with boner sticking up
She'll get the message.
Tickets on Amtrak are $20 each way from Santa Ana to TJ. So all told it's $45 round trip, plus any drinks you might consume. I live north of LA so even though it takes longer, often it's better to take the train considering the wear and tear on my car,the traffic, the price of gas and the hassle of driving. It all depends on your schedule and your flexability.
Google Amtrak and San Diego trolley and you'll get their schedules.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Nice report Mnpnu.
What's an NB train?
QUOTE]
North Bound train
Two Dollars
01-12-09, 03:42
Afterwards she tries to tell me that the handjob is extra and that its not included with the $40. Its actually kind of cute as she tries to politely explain this to me and I let her go a few seconds and feign ignorance before I stop her. I tell her claro claro and she seems very relieved. I pay her $50 and she seems happy. So it was a $40 massage plus $10 handjob? Not too bad, if the massage was decent.
Sounds cool, but just a few questions. How much is the Amtrak ticket? And is there a cheaper all-day option as well for Amtrak? What's an NB train? Can I take the Amtrak from the Santa Ana bus depot? And all together including the trolley ride, how much time am I looking at until I reach Tj? And how much money will i spend for the two way trip?
Already asked by you and answered by me. RTFF!! :)
For the people who don't want to dig around, the Amtrak is $20 each way, a bit more if you upgrade to Business Class (fewer people, dedicated car, guaranteed seat, priority boarding in SAN).
No all day, cuz there is nothing else to ride but the train.
NB = Northbound
Drive your car to the Santa Ana train depot, if that's near you. Otherwise, if you're farther north, go to Union Station to park. I don't know where the SNA bus station is in relation to the Amtrak.
LA to SAN is in the 2 hour neighborhood, longer if you leave from LA, a bit shorter if you leave from somewhere in OC. Trolley from Plaza America to border is about 30 minutes.
So, $40 + taxes and fees for train, $5 for trolley.
Just do it!!
Victor Shanahan
01-12-09, 07:01
I arrived by car at the San Ysidro International Boarder at approximately 9:00PM on Saturday, January 10. I parked at the "Border Station" parking lot and walked across the bridge to the San Ysidro Trolley Station, where I took the pedestrian bridge to the turnstile. The last time I had come to Tijuana had been about five years ago, and before my habit had been either to take AmTrak to the Santa Fe Depot and then travel to the boarder by trolley, or to park at the E-Street Trolley Station and take the trolley to the boarder. In retrospect, I should have parked at the E-Street trolley station.
The advantage to parking at the E-Street trolley station is that it gives me more options, both vs. Taking AmTrak and vs. Driving to the boarder. It's better than AmTrak because the last nortbound train from San Diego leaves at 6:20PM, so if you take AmTrak to San Diego you pretty much have to spend the night either in San Diego or Tijuana after a night of mongering. The trolley, on the other hand, runs 24 hours a day, no matter when you cross the boarder back to the United States, you can always hop in your car and return home if you want to.
The advantage to the E-Street trolley stations vs. Parking near the boarder is that oftentimes when you return from Mexico after a night of mongering you will be either too tired or too intoxicated to drive home, and you may want to spend the night. The selection of hotels within walking distance from the boarder leaves a great deal to be desired, and spending the night in Tijuana is problematic for a variety of reasons; not the least of which is the fact that the line at the boarder is typically very short in the wee hours of the night, but much longer the following morning.
The E-Street trolley station is easy to find. Simply drive south on Interstate 5, and get off at the E-Street exit. You can't miss it. By the way, did I mention that parking at the E-Street trolley station is free?
Anyway, I digress. I parked at Boarder Station, crossed the bridge, and entered Mexico. Not much significant has changed on the US Side of the boarder other than the fact that new turnstiles appear to have been installed, but quite a bit has changed in Tijuana. The Port of Entry on the Mexico side (the area between the first and second turnstile) appears to have been completely re-built, and is much nicer and cleaner than before. I walked through, and made a sharp right turn when I encountered the Taxi stand. A few hundred feet later, I found what I was looking for: the sports book. This was where I used to obtain the Pesos I would use during my trips.
There are several options one has to obtain funds to use for a night of mongering in Mexico. One is to bring dollars and use them. This generally results in having to pay higher prices. Another option is to bring dollars and exchange them for Pesos at a "Casa de Cambio. " That's a viable option, but one can generally get a better exchange rate by using a local ATM instead. The problem with local ATMs, however, is twofold: First, they are not necessarily secure, and second they usually dispense large cash in large denominations (sometimes 500 Peso notes). I knew from prior experience that the ATM at the sports book was secure, and that it dispensed 100 peso bills. So that's where I went. It seems that ATM now dispenses 200 Peso bills. I would prefer 100 peso bills, but 200 peso bills are manageable.
On my way from there to the Zona, I noticed (as prior posters have mentioned) that the unique odor that I had formerly associated with Tijuana was not nearly as prominent. I do not believe this is because of the rain. The odor was caused by urban runoff from a city without adequate sewage and sanitation. Rain would normally be expected to make the smell worse rather than better. I suspect that what happened is one or more of the planned water treatment plants have gone on-line. You can read all about it at the following link.
http://www.surfline.com/surf-news/tijuana-river-runoff-is-a-very-real-and-dangerous-health-risk-for-ib-and-coronado-surfers-time-of-reckoning--s_20759/
Anyway, when I arrived at Adeletes I noticed that right next to it was the entrance to the "Hong Kong Bar. " That, I thought, was interesting. The "Hong Kong" bar I remember was located in the alley, nowhere near Adeletes. I walked around to the alley to check out the streetwalkers, and found there were not many there to speak of. Part of the reason may have been that it was cold outside. At least, it was "cold" from the point of view of a group of people who A. Are used to a much warmer climate; and, B. Belong to a profession where they are expected to wear skimpy outfits.
Anyway, I found another entrance to the Hong Kong bar, and I noticed that they were requiring people to buy a can of Tecate for 35 pesos, or $3. 50, before entering. I thought that might indicate that the bar was crowded, so I decided to pass. Instead, I went to the Miami bar next door. The Miami bar used to be connected to the Hong Kong bar, so I thought I might check out Miami, and then, if I got bored, cross over to Hong Kong.
The Miami bar has been completely rebuilt and is apparently twice as big as it was before. It was full of women, ranging from 8-10. The M/F ratio was quite favorable. After waking around for a while to check out the sights, I started on one of my favorite activities: I sat down with an attractive young woman, bought her a couple of drinks, and chatted with her in Spanish while my hands (and hers) wandered. After a bit of this, I left, and decided to check out Hong Kong. Miami and Hong Kong, by the way are no longer connected.
The Hong Kong club is COMPLETELY different from what it was five years ago. The Hong Kong club I knew consisted of one main stage, a bar, a small handfull of booths, and three lab-dance booths in the back. There was also a "VIP room" upstairs. Now, it appears they have expanded the club into another club, and rebuilt it. The main stage is now in the back of the club, and there are a number of much smaller stages in the front. They have installed a bathtub in one corner, where two girls were doing a "bubble bath" show. Next to the bathtub was a shower, where two more girls could be found doing a "shower" show. I went upstairs, and in an area on the side I watched two girls on a separate stage together covered with shaving cream, in a manner that reminded me of the "lesbian shows" that used to take place on the former main stage. The difference was that these girls were actually using a dildo on eachother on the stage. It was quite a sight.
The Hong Kong bar used to be a simple strip club, but now it is like four or five clubs in one, and the ladies there are all top notch. After doing some exploring and ogling, I found a lady, chatted with her, bought her a couple of drinks, and groped her. Good times.
Then I went back out to the alley, found a streetwalker, paid 200 pesos, and went upstairs, paying 50 pesos for the room. That was quite a discount from before, since the dollar/peso exchange rate is now about 13. 50 pesos to the dollar.
I then took a Taxi Libre back to "La Fronteria" (the boarder) and went home. It was approximately 2AM, and there was no line.
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Country John
01-12-09, 18:50
Great TR. Done in "Dragnet Dialog" style. Simple, quick, to the point. I loved it. There is another trolly depot off "H" street with a few motels within a block.
I'm surprised you had no narco traficantes chasing you with AK 47's to gun you down. TJ being such a dagerous place, I thought for sure you'd be assauted, murdered, your head cut off and your body stuffed into a vat of acid. Maybe next time eh?
This TR is testimonial in that the monger at no time mentioned a feeling of uneasyness due to the current issues in TJ. Proof again that the monger really has nothing to be worried about beyond the simple albiet upgraded personal security awareness.
Country John
Victor Shanahan
01-14-09, 04:25
Although this particular trip was without significant incident, I have had my share of run-ins both with local petty criminals, and the local petty criminals who wear uniforms. I'd like to think that I had a safe journey on Saturday night because I acquired "Street Smarts" over the years, or that crime in Tijuana may have gone down, but it is more likely that I was simply lucky.
Part of it may also have been that I spent as much time as possible in the major, well-established clubs (Adeletes, Miami, and Hong Kong), and very little time out on the streets. The clubs are much safer.
Several years ago, I was walking through the streets of Tijuana, and I was approached by.- well.- someone who I didn't particularly want to interact with. First he offered to lead me to the "best pussy in town. " I politely declined (after all, it isn't as if attractive ladies are difficult to find in Tijuana without assistance). Then, he offered to "show me around. " When that didn't work, he offered to sell me drugs. The problem was that no matter what I did, I couldn't get the SOB to stop following me.
So, I went straight for the nearest major club (I think it might have been the Chicago Club, but I'm not sure). For some strange reason, as soon as I entered the SOB lost interest in following me. I suspected that the proprietors of such establishments had their own ways of discouraging the local riff-raff from harassing their customers.
Now that I think about it, last Saturday's crime-free journey probably was luck. I didn't mention this in my report, but every one of the ladies who I chatted on Saturday Night with mentioned how annoyed they were with the police shaking them down. Never before had that been such a popular conversation topic.
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Massageman911
01-14-09, 08:23
Any recent info on Luxor or Purple Rain?
http://www.purplerainbar.com/
How about Mermaids or Monte Carlo?
The above two run from the same website. http://www.mermaidstj.com/index.php
Thanks in advance
Nice report Mnpnu.
Lol, I've never tried an asian massage parlor. What exactly is the AMP etiquette for gesturing that you want a HJ? :)Act like you are trying to shake thick ketchup out of a bottle but only slow and smoothly.
Three or four strokes is all that is necessary.
Lol, I've never tried an asian massage parlor. What exactly is the AMP etiquette for gesturing that you want a HJ? :)Act like you are trying to shake thick ketchup out of a bottle but only slow and smoothly.
Three or four strokes is all that is necessary.
Country John
01-14-09, 18:44
Although this particular trip was without significant incident, I have had my share of run-ins both with local petty criminals, and the local petty criminals who wear uniforms. I'd like to think that I had a safe journey on Saturday night because I acquired "Street Smarts" over the years, or that crime in Tijuana may have gone down, but it is more likely that I was simply lucky.
Part of it may also have been that I spent as much time as possible in the major, well-established clubs (Adeletes, Miami, and Hong Kong), and very little time out on the streets. The clubs are much safer.
Several years ago, I was walking through the streets of Tijuana, and I was approached by.- well.- someone who I didn't particularly want to interact with. First he offered to lead me to the "best pussy in town. " I politely declined (after all, it isn't as if attractive ladies are difficult to find in Tijuana without assistance). Then, he offered to "show me around. " When that didn't work, he offered to sell me drugs. The problem was that no matter what I did, I couldn't get the SOB to stop following me.
So, I went straight for the nearest major club (I think it might have been the Chicago Club, but I'm not sure). For some strange reason, as soon as I entered the SOB lost interest in following me. I suspected that the proprietors of such establishments had their own ways of discouraging the local riff-raff from harassing their customers.
Now that I think about it, last Saturday's crime-free journey probably was luck. I didn't mention this in my report, but every one of the ladies who I chatted on Saturday Night with mentioned how annoyed they were with the police shaking them down. Never before had that been such a popular conversation topic.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Aue Contre, that's French.
I guess you're right from the perspective that there is a strong chance of something going wrong without any provocation, but being streetwise and doing what you did played a large role in keeping the boogyman in the sticky dark, where he belongs.
Tijuana has always had it's seedy underside and potential for problems. Knowing how to avoid the problems will go a long ways towards having a safe journey. Not knowing will almost always lead to one horror story or another.
With the changes being made at TJPD and throuhout law enforcement the rateros are having a tougher time too. The ATM machines have again become a dangerous target. Never go alone.
Luck is always a component in any adventure where lots is left to chance, but having a good head on your shoulders will usually reduce the amount of dependence on luck and I sense that from your post.
Country John
I have been dying to go to TJ for about 6 months now. Is it safe? With all that I here on the news, I just do not want to get caught in a bunch of bull. Any incouraging words out there?
Already asked by you and answered by me. RTFF!! :)
I know, I did ask back then but wasn't ready to take the alternate transportation trip. Besides, I have the attention span of a gnat. I can't be expected to remember something i read months ago. It's as if saying that I have the... wait, what was I talking about? Oh well.
Just do it!!
I will! :)
The advantage to parking at the E-Street trolley station is that it gives me more options, both vs. Taking AmTrak and vs. Driving to the boarder. It's better than AmTrak because the last nortbound train from San Diego leaves at 6:20PM, so if you take AmTrak to San Diego you pretty much have to spend the night either in San Diego or Tijuana after a night of mongering.
6:20 pm!? That's horrible! The fun doesn't even start in the zona until about 9pm. Where is the e-street trolley located? Nice report by the way.
Any recent info on Luxor or Purple Rain?
http://www.purplerainbar.com/
I think its funny how they say on the site that they are the #1 bar in Tj.
Act like you are trying to shake thick ketchup out of a bottle but only slow and smoothly.
Three or four strokes is all that is necessary.
lol, I figured as much. :)
Yeah, if you take Amtrak you WILL have to spend the night, unless you just go down for some daytime activity. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing... :)
I would take the train more to see Pads games, but you can't get back home again. Typical gov't run business. I'm sure there are a few folks who would commute to/from SD after 6:00pm. But, nooo.
So then its true.
Damn, Amtrak is outta the picture then. This puts a monkey wrench on my whole plans. So what's my alternative?
I was pleased to see that after all these years, the monger in you can still enjoy yourself, great report and observations.
Tijuana has been bad through out the years, I think since the start of the internet and all neat little tech devices and more press, it has radically changed things on how they are reported.
Not to say it is not bad now, I think through it was not luck that got you through that night but Tijuana smarts due to your experiences.
Cj has always got great advice and is more up to date then I.
Happy hunting
So then its true.
Damn, Amtrak is outta the picture then. This puts a monkey wrench on my whole plans. So what's my alternative?
You might want to check out the Amtrak schedule. Go to Amtrak online and look up the Pacific Surfliner schedule. There are two trains that run later than 6:20. One departs at 8:20 and the other at 9:15. Of course you have to factor in the travel time from La Zona, border delays and the trolley ride, (35min). The two later trains only go as far as far north than L.A. If you wan to go further north than L.A. then the 6:20 is the latest.
Amtrak is a good alternative if you plan to stay the night. That would include the additional cost of a hotel. I’ve stayed at several in TJ but one time a gal at HK clued me into staying at Cascadas. The room you get is the same quality (or lack there of) as the rooms you use for bar chicas. The difference is you go to the top floor, the fifth. This is the floor the girls live on and is not used for hourly mongers. Last time it cost $35, so after 3 trips with chicas, the cost was almost paid back. Being on the fifth floor the noise of the street is minimal.
Amtrak is an alternative to driving down but it’s not for a quickie.
Blue Balls Hurt
01-15-09, 02:13
So then its true.
Damn, Amtrak is outta the picture then. This puts a monkey wrench on my whole plans. So what's my alternative?You could also take the Greyhound. I use to take it. It's only around $30 round trip from Santa Ana.
Victor Shanahan
01-15-09, 06:50
My mistake. The last northbound train departing San Diego is at 9:15, not 6:20. The reason I thought it was 6:20 was because I attempted to reserve a train on Saturday evening on AmTrak's website, and the latest train I could reserve departed at 6:20. However, after reading Surfnk9's message, I called AmTrak and discovered that I could reserve the 9:15 train over the phone. Also, the schedule indicates that the last train leaves at 9:15.
The schedule is located at: http://www.amtrak.com/timetable/oct08/W31.pdf.
You might want to check out the Amtrak schedule. Go to Amtrak online and look up the Pacific Surfliner schedule. There are two trains that run later than 6:20. One departs at 8:20 and the other at 9:15. Of course you have to factor in the travel time from La Zona, border delays and the trolley ride, (35min). The two later trains only go as far as far north than L.A. If you wan to go further north than L.A. then the 6:20 is the latest.
Amtrak is a good alternative if you plan to stay the night. That would include the additional cost of a hotel. I’ve stayed at several in TJ but one time a gal at HK clued me into staying at Cascadas. The room you get is the same quality (or lack there of) as the rooms you use for bar chicas. The difference is you go to the top floor, the fifth. This is the floor the girls live on and is not used for hourly mongers. Last time it cost $35, so after 3 trips with chicas, the cost was almost paid back. Being on the fifth floor the noise of the street is minimal.
Amtrak is an alternative to driving down but it’s not for a quickie.
Victor Shanahan
01-15-09, 06:54
6:20 pm!? That's horrible! The fun doesn't even start in the zona until about 9pm. Where is the e-street trolley located? Nice report by the way.Thank you. The E-Street trolly station is right off the Interstate 5. Just drive south and get off on the exit marked "E Street. " You can't miss it.
By the way, I made a mistake regarding AmTrak's schedule (see my other post). The last northbound train leaves at 9:15PM, not 6:20. I think that's still too early for same-day mongering though.
So then its true.
Damn, Amtrak is outta the picture then. This puts a monkey wrench on my whole plans. So what's my alternative?
Use the money you've been saving by NOT going to TJ and buy a decent car!! :D
http://www.amtrak.com/timetable/oct08/W31.pdf
Thank you. The E-Street trolly station is right off the Interstate 5. Just drive south and get off on the exit marked "E Street. " You can't miss it.
By the way, I made a mistake regarding AmTrak's schedule (see my other post). The last northbound train leaves at 9:15PM, not 6:20. I think that's still too early for same-day mongering though.
E-street trolley is in Chula Vista. Since I'm coming from L.A. I might as well just drive the extra few miles to the San Ysidro border and park my car there.
9:15pm is still kind of early but usually when I drive to the border I leave in the morning and get there around 11am or 12pm. And at about 6pm, I'm ready to go home. I'd still preffer a later route though.
Use the money you've been saving by NOT going to TJ and buy a decent car!! :D
Yeah I've been looking into that too but with the economy going the way it is and my company having laid off so many people and it looks like they may be laying off more, I don't want to take a chance on having anymore expenses if I do get laid off. At least not for a few more months cause that's when my company will start all the new projects and they will have work up the wazoo and there will be no chance for me to be laid off. Cause currently they're looking for any reason to let workers go. So for now I'm playing it safe.
http://www.amtrak.com/timetable/oct08/W31.pdf
Thanks for that. Now how about a timetable for the trolley that goes from SD to TJ. What's the name of that trolley?
Victor Shanahan
01-15-09, 22:47
Thanks for that. Now how about a timetable for the trolley that goes from SD to TJ. What's the name of that trolley?http://www.sdmts.com/Trolley/Trolley.asp
Click on the link for "Old Town to San Ysidro"
Cobra Comander
01-16-09, 05:59
Thanks for that. Now how about a timetable for the trolley that goes from SD to TJ. What's the name of that trolley?
Dude! Not to bust your balls but have you EVER used Google???
I mean seriously....
CC
Thanks for that. Now how about a timetable for the trolley that goes from SD to TJ. What's the name of that trolley?
There's only one trolley. From SD you want the blue line, which runs from SY to SD (as far as you're concerned). It runs every 15 minutes, or so. A bit more often during peak times, a bit less at night. The last train out of SY is around midnight, I THINK. It may be as late as 2:00am, but I'm not really sure. If you're doing the Amtrak it doesn't matter cuz you'll need to be on the trolley 45 minutes before your train departs (30 minutes for the trip, 15 minutes to walk across the street to the Amtrak station).
dude! not to bust your balls but have you ever used google???
i mean seriously....
cc
no, what's goggle?
there's only one trolley. from sd you want the blue line, which runs from sy to sd (as far as you're concerned). it runs every 15 minutes, or so. a bit more often during peak times, a bit less at night. the last train out of sy is around midnight, i think. it may be as late as 2:00am, but i'm not really sure. if you're doing the amtrak it doesn't matter cuz you'll need to be on the trolley 45 minutes before your train departs (30 minutes for the trip, 15 minutes to walk across the street to the amtrak station).
15 minute walk between stations?
that's how long it takes me to go from the parking lot behind jack in the box, through the bridge over the freeway, through the spiral walkways, through the turnstiles, across the stinky bridge, through the arch, through revo knocking down hobos and finally reaching the alley. that long walk is aproximately 15 minutes. the distance between train stations is that long?
thanks for that link. although, it seems like all together, driving from my house to the santa ana depot(30 min), getting on the amtrak to old town san diego(2 hours), walking to the trolley(15 min), getting on the trolley(30 min) and finally reaching tj is about 3 1/2 hours long. that's not including waiting around for the amtrak and the wait for the trolley. does that seem right, over three hours to reach tj? i'm thinking of taking the transportation on tracks plunge this weekend just to see how it fares out. is there bathrooms on the trains cause if i suddenly need to go, i don't want to be holding it for 3 hours. it'd be funny if i reached tj with a [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) stain on my pants. lol
is there bathrooms on the trains cause if i suddenly need to go, i don't want to be holding it for 3 hours. it'd be funny if i reached tj with a [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) stain on my pants. lolthat is why the windows open on the trains. duh !
be careful not to get caught between the track and wheels because it could put a damper on the tj trip.
Victor Shanahan
01-16-09, 09:26
15 minute walk between stations?
that's how long it takes me to go from the parking lot behind jack in the box, through the bridge over the freeway, through the spiral walkways, through the turnstiles, across the stinky bridge, through the arch, through revo knocking down hobos and finally reaching the alley. that long walk is aproximately 15 minutes. the distance between train stations is that long?
thanks for that link. although, it seems like all together, driving from my house to the santa ana depot(30 min), getting on the amtrak to old town san diego(2 hours), walking to the trolley(15 min), getting on the trolley(30 min) and finally reaching tj is about 3 1/2 hours long. that's not including waiting around for the amtrak and the wait for the trolley. does that seem right, over three hours to reach tj? i'm thinking of taking the transportation on tracks plunge this weekend just to see how it fares out. is there bathrooms on the trains cause if i suddenly need to go, i don't want to be holding it for 3 hours. it'd be funny if i reached tj with a [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) stain on my pants. lolyes, there are rest rooms on amtrak trains. there are no rest rooms on trolleys. if you take amtrak, you will want to go to downtown san diego (aka the "santa fe depot") rather than old town san diego. old town is farther north than downtown, which would necessitate a longer trolley ride.
your time estimates are pretty much correct, except that 1. the trolley stops at the amtrak station, so there is no need to spend 15 minutes walking across the street, and 2. the trolley ride from the amtrak station to the boarder is closer to 45 minutes than 30. since the trolley leaves every 15 minutes, you can estimate that you will spend between 5 and 10 minutes waiting for the next trolley once you get off the train. the amount of time you wait at the santa ana station will depend on when you arrive there.
15 minute walk between stations?
that's how long it takes me to go from the parking lot behind jack in the box, through the bridge over the freeway, through the spiral walkways, through the turnstiles, across the stinky bridge, through the arch, through revo knocking down hobos and finally reaching the alley. that long walk is aproximately 15 minutes. the distance between train stations is that long?
thanks for that link. although, it seems like all together, driving from my house to the santa ana depot(30 min), getting on the amtrak to old town san diego(2 hours), walking to the trolley(15 min), getting on the trolley(30 min) and finally reaching tj is about 3 1/2 hours long. that's not including waiting around for the amtrak and the wait for the trolley. does that seem right, over three hours to reach tj? i'm thinking of taking the transportation on tracks plunge this weekend just to see how it fares out. is there bathrooms on the trains cause if i suddenly need to go, i don't want to be holding it for 3 hours. it'd be funny if i reached tj with a [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) stain on my pants. lol
bs. that is at least a 20 minute walk, unless you're running. :)
ok. the train pulls into the station. you queue up with all of your fellow passengers and get off the car. you walk down the track, across the tracks, through the station (perhaps stopping to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)), cross the street to the trolley station, find a kiosk, buy your ticket after figuring out how it works, and get on the trolley. that is a minimum of 15 minutes unless you push everybody aside, sprint to the machine, etc., etc. plus odds are that you will have to wait 5 or 10 mins for a trolley. now coming back, you don't have to buy a ticket but you still have to make your was across the street and get into line to board the train. earlier is better, unless you're as smart as i am and purchased the "business class" upgrade, where you get to board first.
nobody ever said the train was faster. it's just more relaxing than driving.
enough of the inane "how do i [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)?" where do i walk? questions, get a life or a newer car or (shock) get on the train and work out a routine (like phordfan has).
dermdoc has you pegged.
bs. that is at least a 20 minute walk, unless you're running. :)
ok. the train pulls into the station. you queue up with all of your fellow passengers and get off the car. you walk down the track, across the tracks, through the station (perhaps stopping to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)), cross the street to the trolley station, find a kiosk, buy your ticket after figuring out how it works, and get on the trolley. that is a minimum of 15 minutes unless you push everybody aside, sprint to the machine, etc., etc. plus odds are that you will have to wait 5 or 10 mins for a trolley. now coming back, you don't have to buy a ticket but you still have to make your was across the street and get into line to board the train. earlier is better, unless you're as smart as i am and purchased the "business class" upgrade, where you get to board first.
nobody ever said the train was faster. it's just more relaxing than driving.no that walk is 15 minutes. i timed it myself. but then i normally walk fast.
sounds cool. i'll definitely try the tram route and report back. by the way, how much more is the business class and what do you do on the train to kill time? read a book? if i take a book i would hate having to carry it around in tj.
your time estimates are pretty much correct, except that 1. the trolley stops at the amtrak station, so there is no need to spend 15 minutes walking across the street, and 2. the trolley ride from the amtrak station to the boarder is closer to 45 minutes than 30. since the trolley leaves every 15 minutes, you can estimate that you will spend between 5 and 10 minutes waiting for the next trolley once you get off the train. the amount of time you wait at the santa ana station will depend on when you arrive there.thanks, i figured as much. and yeah, i was wondering about the old town sd and the santa fe depot stop. i'll take the latter one.
that is why the windows open on the trains. duh !
be careful not to get caught between the track and wheels because it could put a damper on the tj trip.peeing out the window would be cool, maybe i can hit some cows. lol
enough of the inane "how do i [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)?" where do i walk? questions, get a life or a newer car or (shock) get on the train and work out a routine (like phordfan has).
dermdoc has you pegged.hey this information could be useful for a few other people as well.
as for spermdoc, he's an annoying jerk that thinks he's better than everyone else then whines and moans when someone says anything about him. well i'm still here and he's not. he couldn't take the heat.
The advantage to the E Street trolley station vs. parking near the border is that oftentimes when you return from Mexico after a night of mongering you will be either too tired or too intoxicated to drive home, and you may want to spend the night. The selection of hotels within walking distance from the border leaves a great deal to be desired, and spending the night in Tijuana is problematic for a variety of reasons.This is a good point. There are several hotels within easy walking distance of the trolley stop on E Street in Chula Vista. If you are looking for a place to crash overnight before resuming your journey to points north, it's an ideal spot. If you're in the mood for a late night bite there is a Denny's that's open 24 hours. And if you prefer to eat in the morning, the breakfast at Aunt Emma's cannot be beat.
Bunky
friday
chicago club - was almost empty both afternoon and eve; few girls and fewer customers
adelita bar - looks like usual, except customers seem more 'gang' type than before; a mexican gangster was taking one corner with mariachis and his girlfriends, it was obvious he had a pistol and some friends with him; i guess some gringos have decided not to be going south lately
on avenida revolucion - very quiet all day; few tourists, bad business; no visible patrols by police or military
walking back at night - mexican police car was waiting at the linea sentri taxi drop off, but the 5 officers were busy eating so no 'stop, search and steal'; on the US side, passport checkers were asking very rude questions, even to obvious american citizens. their computers know your whole life.
What kind of rude questions?
LOL
What kind of rude questions?
Country John
01-18-09, 21:38
If you are treated badly when returning to your country, ask for and complete a complaint for in front of the officer. Don't be an asshole, just do it. Later, when he's yuking it up with the boys, he'll have something else to think about sitting in his folder.
Remember: these guys feellike God with their badge and gun sitting on the rim of Ameica deciding when to be a prick and when not to be. It's a hell of a power trip.
That's why God made complaint forms. Just do it. It only takes a minute and you get lots of milage out of watching the jerk as you do it. Make sure you get a copy and MAKE SURE YOU DEMAND A RESPONSE IN WRITING.
If you are treated badly when returning to your country, ask for and complete a complaint for in front of the officer. Don't be an asshole, just do it. Later, when he's yuking it up with the boys, he'll have something else to think about sitting in his folder.
Remember: these guys feellike God with their badge and gun sitting on the rim of Ameica deciding when to be a prick and when not to be. It's a hell of a power trip.
That's why God made complaint forms. Just do it. It only takes a minute and you get lots of milage out of watching the jerk as you do it. Make sure you get a copy and MAKE SURE YOU DEMAND A RESPONSE IN WRITING.
Thanks CJ. I wish I knew about the complaint form a year ago. It was 3am and nobody in line. The guy was a real jerk. No matter what I did he was beyond rude; he was downright abusive. Luckily I figured our right away this guy had an ax to grind; and I was the lucky one to be the brunt of his discontent.
I knew all he could do was to be was mean. You know – sticks and stones. So I resorted to “kill him with kindness”. No matter what I “did wrong”, whether it was getting in the wrong isle, not pulling out my ID fast enough, or taking back my ID abruptly; I was overly polite and apologetic. Sarcastic but not blatant sarcasm, enough to let him know my literal words meant just the opposite. When he finally let me pass, I thanked him profusely for his thoroughness and professionalism, which made him even madder. This brought a chuckle from a couple of agents who were working the bag scanners and had witnessed the whole encounter.
If this happens again, I’ll kill him with kindness again; then take the complaint form route as suggested.
Pablito Diablito
01-19-09, 05:34
What are your favorite shift to hit up in the Zona. I was really enjoying the night shift, but made a daytime run not long ago and was really into the selection. If I am going to Tijuana strictly to visit the zona, I always went during the night. If I was coming back from Ensenada or something I can always talk myself into lunch on Cohuila.
While I have not come with any good reasons for preferring the evening, other than the fact that they are open all night, I would be interested to see what everyone else has to say.
Sunset Strip
01-19-09, 19:16
I am strictly a day man now. I used to go down at night and stay late until the next morning. Now I like day shift, starting around 11am and leaving in the afternoon, before 5pm. I know most of the girls and get no hassles. Plus, you can see the girls better in the daylight. Plus, prices tend to be lower because days can be really slow for them. Some day girls get only a few customers before going home so they appreciate the money you are spending. At night things can become a meat market where girls want you in the room and out as soon as possible.
On the other hand, day shift can be quite boring because you do not have all of the action you do at night. You can be the only one sitting in a bar on some Wednesdays!
last, you are RELATIVELY safer during the day. Key word is relative, because most of you are never safe in TJ.
TJ
Cobra Comander
01-19-09, 21:01
I am strictly a day man now. I used to go down at night and stay late until the next morning. Now I like day shift, starting around 11am and leaving in the afternoon, before 5pm. I know most of the girls and get no hassles. Plus, you can see the girls better in the daylight. Plus, prices tend to be lower because days can be really slow for them. Some day girls get only a few customers before going home so they appreciate the money you are spending. At night things can become a meat market where girls want you in the room and out as soon as possible.
On the other hand, day shift can be quite boring because you do not have all of the action you do at night. You can be the only one sitting in a bar on some Wednesdays!
last, you are RELATIVELY safer during the day. Key word is relative, because most of you are never safe in TJ.
TJ
I go during the day about 90% of the time and find it to be much better overall. plus im still in my OWN bed at a reasonable hour.
CC
Cerveza Mas
01-20-09, 03:48
Hope everyone is having a great 2009 so far. Anyone know of Tijuana bars that will have Superbowl activities? A little cerveza and a "half time break" or two is what I'm looking for.
Hope everyone is having a great 2009 so far. Anyone know of Tijuana bars that will have Superbowl activities? A little cerveza and a "half time break" or two is what I'm looking for.
No, but thanks for a good idea of where to go on Super Bowel Sunday. There is the sports betting place on Revo. It’s a good place to lay a few bucks down on the game and probably watch it, but not good for laying down a few chicas. If anyone finds a place in La Zona where the game is being shown, I’ll see you there.
AB will probably have it. They're definitely equipped for it with all the flat screens all over the place. But the only televised events I've seen there are the De La Hoya fights. But only when Oscar was fighting and not the previous fights. And between rounds they would cut back to the music.
Ruffianomega
01-21-09, 04:00
Hey Guys,
Has anyone gotten into mexico with their birth certificate recently I went to Nogales about 3 months ago with my birth certificate and an id. But I think I saw on a website you can still use the certificate until June 2009. Please let me know if the certificate is still acceptable?
AB will probably have it. They're definitely equipped for it with all the flat screens all over the place. But the only televised events I've seen there are the De La Hoya fights. But only when Oscar was fighting and not the previous fights. And between rounds they would cut back to the music.I was there last superbowl and AB had it. You can call and request it also.
Champak Lal
01-21-09, 16:40
Thanks CJ. I wish I knew about the complaint form a year ago. It was 3am and nobody in line. The guy was a real jerk. No matter what I did he was beyond rude; he was downright abusive. Luckily I figured our right away this guy had an ax to grind; and I was the lucky one to be the brunt of his discontent. I knew all he could do was to be was mean. You know – sticks and stones. So I resorted to "kill him with kindness". No matter what I "did wrong", whether it was getting in the wrong isle, not pulling out my ID fast enough, or taking back my ID abruptly; I was overly polite and apologetic. Sarcastic but not blatant sarcasm, enough to let him know my literal words meant just the opposite. When he finally let me pass, I thanked him profusely for his thoroughness and professionalism, which made him even madder. This brought a chuckle from a couple of agents who were working the bag scanners and had witnessed the whole encounter. If this happens again, I’ll kill him with kindness again; then take the complaint form route as suggested.I also had a rude agent one time. Besides asking when I went to Tijuana he say " why did you go to Tijuana". I: "Visit. I am a tourist". He, " Did you go to a night club".
I: In my mind. None of your f***ing business. In words " No"
He: You are back at this late hour (app 3. 00am0 and you did not go to a club. What did you do? "
I "I said I told you that I was visiting. I was enjoying the Arch and street music"
Gave me a look and gave my passport back rudely. I " you are not supposed to throw it back at me"
He: "Please go"
Was tired. Did not do/think of anything else. There was zero line and I did not have one single thing in my hand or pocket. Was not even drunk. He did not have any reason for anything what he did. Plain kerk.
I was there last superbowl and AB had it. You can call and request it also.
What do you mean by "call and request?"
Country John
01-21-09, 21:42
I also had a rude agent one time. Besides asking when I went to Tijuana he say " why did you go to Tijuana". I: "Visit. I am a tourist". He, " Did you go to a night club".
I: In my mind. None of your f***ing business. In words " No"
He: You are back at this late hour (app 3. 00am0 and you did not go to a club. What did you do? "
I "I said I told you that I was visiting. I was enjoying the Arch and street music"
Gave me a look and gave my passport back rudely. I " you are not supposed to throw it back at me"
He: "Please go"
Was tired. Did not do/think of anything else. There was zero line and I did not have one single thing in my hand or pocket. Was not even drunk. He did not have any reason for anything what he did. Plain kerk.
Q: "Why did you go to Tijuana?"
A: "To chase Girls."
Q: "To chase girls?"
A: "Yes."
Q: "Where in Tijuana do you go to chase girls?"
A: "I go to the Zona Norte Bars, like Adelita's."
Q: "Isn't that the place where guys pay to have sex with prostitutes?"
A: "Yes."
Q: "How many girls did you chase?"
A: "Seventeen."
Q: "Did you have sex with all of them?"
A: "Yes."
Q: "How much did it cost?"
A: "Well, it averages about $60 for a half hour plus about $12. for the hotel room."
Get it?
Just answer the questions. It might not be any of his f*****g business, but why does that matter? It is not illegal for you, as a US Citizen or other documented to pay for sex in Mexico with a consenting adult.
I ALWAYS tell them I'm here chasing girls, even if I'm just crossing to check my mail State-side.
"Oh yeah, I love chasing those Mexican ladies around the clubs in Tijuana, blah blah blah." There is nothing they can do about it. Zero.
Don't be shy (but don't be rude). And don't worry about it.
Country John
Angry Dragon69
01-21-09, 22:29
Just answer the questions. It might not be any of his f*****g business, but why does that matter? It is not illegal for you, as a US Citizen or other documented to pay for sex in Mexico with a consenting adult.CJ,
Love your insight on happenings in TJ. But I gotta disagree with you on one point.
For a US citizen it's not an issue going to Mexico and paying a prostitute for sex. But for a legal permanent resident it is. An LPR can be deemed inadmissible (not allowed entry), EVEN THOUGH it's legal in Mexico (or whatever country).
It's a small distinction, but I would advise LPRs not to disclose to the Border Agent that they paid a prostitute in Mexico for sex when they are entering the US.
AD
Victor Shanahan
01-22-09, 00:13
Hey Guys,
Has anyone gotten into mexico with their birth certificate recently I went to Nogales about 3 months ago with my birth certificate and an id. But I think I saw on a website you can still use the certificate until June 2009. Please let me know if the certificate is still acceptable?I went to Mexico last Saturday (the 10th), and when I returned all I showed the boarder agent was my California drivers license and by birth certificate. He asked me where I was born, and when I gave the correct answer, he let me through.
Just answer the questions. It might not be any of his business, but why does that matter? It is not illegal for you, as a U.S. citizen to pay for sex in Mexico with a consenting adult. . . . There is nothing they can do about it.I urge caution in this regard, and I will give you my reasons.
With the advent of machine-readable passports and passport cards it is easier than ever for the authorities to keep track of every time you cross the border. Even if you use a drivers license and certified copy of your birth certificate to establish identity and citizenship, they can still manually log your crossing.
The U.S. government has announced they collect and save data on everybody who enters the country, even those people who formerly crossed in anonymity at busy land ports like San Ysidro. The idea is to use data mining to look for people who might pose a threat. If you're interested in learning more about this effort, search for my previous posts on this topic, which included interesting stories from the Washington Post.
You remain free to give snarky answers to the inspectors, of course. But anybody who has dealt with cops knows that if you show them up they can get very creative about making your life difficult.
What's to keep them from adding something to the database indicating you were "frequenting a high crime area?" Or perhaps the entry would recite you were "present in an area where drugs are sold." How do we know they don't have a code for "person who supports an industry linked to [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908)" or some such nonsense?
What happens if you apply for a government job, or work for a government contractor? (As is so common in Southern California.) Do you really want this kind of information about you lurking in a government database?
Now Country John is a big boy who has faced down officious bureaucrats on both side of the border. As Bobby Baccala tells Junior Soprano, I'm in awe of him.
But truth be told I'm nowhere near as brave as he is. So I'll never admit to anything other than seeing the sights when I return to the United States.
Bunky
What do you mean by "call and request?"Call AB on phone and ask them to play it.
They will accommodate you.
Precocious One
01-22-09, 15:48
Q: "Why did you go to Tijuana?"
A: "To chase Girls."
Q: "To chase girls?"
A: "Yes."
Q: "Where in Tijuana do you go to chase girls?"
A: "I go to the Zona Norte Bars, like Adelita's."
Q: "Isn't that the place where guys pay to have sex with prostitutes?"
A: "Yes."
Q: "How many girls did you chase?"
A: "Seventeen."
Q: "Did you have sex with all of them?"
A: "Yes."
Q: "How much did it cost?"
A: "Well, it averages about $60 for a half hour plus about $12. for the hotel room."
Get it?
Just answer the questions. It might not be any of his f*****g business, but why does that matter? It is not illegal for you, as a US Citizen or other documented to pay for sex in Mexico with a consenting adult.
I ALWAYS tell them I'm here chasing girls, even if I'm just crossing to check my mail State-side.
"Oh yeah, I love chasing those Mexican ladies around the clubs in Tijuana, blah blah blah." There is nothing they can do about it. Zero.
Don't be shy (but don't be rude). And don't worry about it.
Country John
This is the correct attitude to have when crossing the border or when being questioned by the policia in MX.
Precocious One
01-22-09, 15:56
I also had a rude agent one time. Besides asking when I went to Tijuana he say " why did you go to Tijuana". I: "Visit. I am a tourist". He, " Did you go to a night club".
I: In my mind. None of your f***ing business. In words " No"
He: You are back at this late hour (app 3. 00am0 and you did not go to a club. What did you do? "
I "I said I told you that I was visiting. I was enjoying the Arch and street music"
Gave me a look and gave my passport back rudely. I " you are not supposed to throw it back at me"
He: "Please go"
Was tired. Did not do/think of anything else. There was zero line and I did not have one single thing in my hand or pocket. Was not even drunk. He did not have any reason for anything what he did. Plain kerk.
This is the incorrect attitude to have when crossing the border or when being questioned by the policia in MX.
Last year when I was stopped by the policia(walking my dog at 2:00 in the morning after a night of clubbing), a younger cop asked me what I was doing living in MX to which I replied that I was there to fu_k the Mexicana. He kind of laughed, told me that he could take me to jail for public intoxication and we ended up settling on two cold beers out of my fridge.
At the end, he asked for my phone number as he wanted to go clubbing with me in the future.
Country John
01-22-09, 18:30
CJ,
Love your insight on happenings in TJ. But I gotta disagree with you on one point.
For a US citizen it's not an issue going to Mexico and paying a prostitute for sex. But for a legal permanent resident it is. An LPR can be deemed inadmissible (not allowed entry), EVEN THOUGH it's legal in Mexico (or whatever country).
It's a small distinction, but I would advise LPRs not to disclose to the Border Agent that they paid a prostitute in Mexico for sex when they are entering the US.
AD
Thanks for clarifying this. If I had the time, I'd do some research and post a link so mongers could reference it. If you have reference info, I'd like to read it so please post it or PM me with it.
It is possible that, through some manipulation, an agent who has nothing better to do with their pathetic existence could pull the string on you.
I still level straight out with them however. I tell it like it is but maybe I need to change my attitude.......NOT. It's OK to tell them the truth, about chasing girls and all that but maybe not to tell them about paying for sex. That might be a booger.
Thanks again
Country John
Victor Shanahan
01-23-09, 05:35
First of all, it is important to understand what motivates the typical United States Boarder Guard. He has a job to do. His job is to.
1. Keep terrorists, drug smugglers, and illegal aliens out of the country; and,
2. Keep the line moving as quickly as possible, subject to job #1.
A boarder guard is simply a law enforcement officer. Like any law enforcment officer, he looks for what doesn't belong. If it's June and you're wearing a trenchcoat, then you don't "belong. " If you're coming back from Mexico at 3AM on a Friday night, then you "belong" if you say you've been partying, but you don't "belong" if you say you work for the consulate. Country John, who freely admits visiting Tijuana for one of the most common reasons American men visit Tijuana, "belongs. " If boarder guards have been giving you trouble, then ask yourself why you might not "belong. "
Also, keep in mind that the boarder guard, like anyone else, wants to be treated with respect and dignity.
With the above in mind, my advice on responding to questions asked by boarder guards is to follow the following simple rules:
1. Be polite.
2. Answer whatever questions you are asked honestly; but,
3. Do not volunteer information.
If the boarder guard asks a vague, generic question like "What was the purpose of your trip to Mexico, " give a vague, generic answer like "Tourism. " If the boarder guard asks something more specific like "Did you visit any clubs? " the correct answer is either "yes" or "no. " Answer truthfully, but answer the question asked, only the question asked, and nothing but the question asked. There is no need to tell a boarder guard that you have been having sex with prostitutes unless the boarder guard directly asks you, "Have you had sex with any prostitutes? " I have never heard of a boarder guard asking that question.
Note that this advice does not apply if you are, in fact, breaking the law (I. E. Entering the country illegally, trying to smuggle drugs, etc.) In that event, you're on your own. Also, this advice does not apply to dealing with Mexican authorities. That's another subject for another thread.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Angry Dragon69
01-24-09, 00:09
Thanks for clarifying this. If I had the time, I'd do some research and post a link so mongers could reference it. If you have reference info, I'd like to read it so please post it or PM me with it.
It is possible that, through some manipulation, an agent who has nothing better to do with their pathetic existence could pull the string on you.
I still level straight out with them however. I tell it like it is but maybe I need to change my attitude.......NOT. It's OK to tell them the truth, about chasing girls and all that but maybe not to tell them about paying for sex. That might be a booger.
Thanks again,
Country JohnINA Section 212(a)(2)(D)(i)-(ii) specifically states that prostitutes or persons who have engaged in or sought to engage in prostitution or to procure prostitutes within the past 10 years are inadmissible.
That applies to nonimmigrants and immigrants (but not to US citizens) who are applying for admission to the US.
Additionally, 22 CFR Section 40.24(c) specifically states an alien is inadmissible even if the acts engaged in are not prohibited under the laws of the foreign country where the acts occurred.
This is the basic law, you can google the statutes and take a quick look. Remember that technically anyone entering the US is applying for admission, even though you're not filling out an application in the literal sense.
Again, this is only applicable to legal permanent residents (green card holders) or nonimmigrants (who have some other type of US visa). This does not apply to US citizens.
If anyone has any further questions, please feel free to ask.
Smut Villain
01-24-09, 00:27
First of all, it is important to understand what motivates the typical United States Boarder Guard. He has a job to do. His job is to.
1. Keep terrorists, drug smugglers, and illegal aliens out of the country; and,
2. Keep the line moving as quickly as possible, subject to job #1.
A boarder guard is simply a law enforcement officer. Like any law enforcment officer, he looks for what doesn't belong. If it's June and you're wearing a trenchcoat, then you don't "belong. " If you're coming back from Mexico at 3AM on a Friday night, then you "belong" if you say you've been partying, but you don't "belong" if you say you work for the consulate. Country John, who freely admits visiting Tijuana for one of the most common reasons American men visit Tijuana, "belongs. " If boarder guards have been giving you trouble, then ask yourself why you might not "belong. "
Also, keep in mind that the boarder guard, like anyone else, wants to be treated with respect and dignity.
With the above in mind, my advice on responding to questions asked by boarder guards is to follow the following simple rules:
1. Be polite.
2. Answer whatever questions you are asked honestly; but,
3. Do not volunteer information.
If the boarder guard asks a vague, generic question like "What was the purpose of your trip to Mexico, " give a vague, generic answer like "Tourism. " If the boarder guard asks something more specific like "Did you visit any clubs? " the correct answer is either "yes" or "no. " Answer truthfully, but answer the question asked, only the question asked, and nothing but the question asked. There is no need to tell a boarder guard that you have been having sex with prostitutes unless the boarder guard directly asks you, "Have you had sex with any prostitutes? " I have never heard of a boarder guard asking that question.
Note that this advice does not apply if you are, in fact, breaking the law (I. E. Entering the country illegally, trying to smuggle drugs, etc.) In that event, you're on your own. Also, this advice does not apply to dealing with Mexican authorities. That's another subject for another thread.
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LOL, as a former police officer myself (ex-SDPD), I have to second this poster's advice. When I used to patrol Southern Division neighborhoods I often looked for the same thing - that is, something which was out of place. I didn't have to necessarily search for anything; if something didn't "belong" it would just stick out like a sore thumb (especially once you've become used to the usual sights, sounds, people and happenings in your sector).
Crazzycopp
01-24-09, 04:23
Hey guys I'm from florida and am going to be stuck in San Diego overnight Sat the 24th. Looking for anyone heading south for some Tijuana fun. Will pay gas expenses etc. Looking to return the same night or early morn. Never been and realy don't have the time to explore on my own.
INA Section 212(a)(2)(D)(i)-(ii) specifically states that prostitutes or persons who have engaged in or sought to engage in prostitution or to procure prostitutes within the past 10 years are inadmissible.
That applies to nonimmigrants and immigrants (but not to US citizens) who are applying for admission to the US.
Additionally, 22 CFR Section 40.24(c) specifically states an alien is inadmissible even if the acts engaged in are not prohibited under the laws of the foreign country where the acts occurred.
This is the basic law, you can google the statutes and take a quick look. Remember that technically anyone entering the US is applying for admission, even though you're not filling out an application in the literal sense.
Again, this is only applicable to legal permanent residents (green card holders) or nonimmigrants (who have some other type of US visa). This does not apply to US citizens.
If anyone has any further questions, please feel free to ask.Yes, this is correct. One of the questions on the application to become a US citizen is something like, "Have you engaged in prostitution during the last 10 years."
Hey guys I'm from florida and am going to be stuck in San Diego overnight Sat the 24th. Looking for anyone heading south for some Tijuana fun. Will pay gas expenses etc. Looking to return the same night or early morn. Never been and realy don't have the time to explore on my own.Copy the map and you will be fine.
http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=794871
I finally went down again to Tj and this time took public transportation like I had been talking about before. More like annoying people about it.
Drove to the Santa Ana Depot where I took the Amtrak to Downtown San Diego, then the trolley to the San Ysidro border. All I can say is, avoid doing this. It's the equivalent of hassling with with an airport to reach a destination.
The waiting, sitting around annoying loud kids, the waiting, getting harrased by ticket takers and more waiting. This is how it all went down for those of you interested. Don't read this unless you want to hear about a long annoying trip...
I drove to the Santa Ana depot which takes about 30 minutes from my house, I got there late and decided I should just drive to Tj instead since the next train wouldn't pull out for another 2 hours. I wasn't going to wait 2 hours. Since I was already there I looked around the Amtrak station just to get the feel of the place for the next time. Well they announced the train was 15 minutes late. So I bought a 2 way ticket. $40 bucks!
I waited the long 15 minutes listening to useless chatter from old people. Finally the train arrives, someone gives out the tip that the last train cab are the best bet since they tend to be empty. I entered the second to last train and it was full, walked to the last train and found some empty seats. Then the same old people sat in the chairs next to me including some family with loud annoying kids. I had to put up with this for 2 hours while enjoying some scenery.
Finally I reach San Diego. According to the schedule they where supposed to stop at Old Town San Diego first. They skip it, but didn't mention it. I had to get off the train and ask where I was and what happened to the Old Town stop.
Now I am at the Santa Fe Depot in San Diego. Wasn't sure how or where to get a boarding ticket. I ask a guy and he points me to some machines. I pay for the all day pass of $5 bucks. At least the trolley was on schedule and arrived on time. Luckily there was a guy boarding with me, cause you have to press a button to get into the trolley and he pressed it. I would have completely overlooked it and just stood in front of the trolley door waiting for the door to open and it would have left me behind looking like a fool.
I'm on the trolley, too many people so nowhere to sit. After a few stops some people get off and I get a free booth to myself. Again annoying people and teenagers scream aloud to each other. Surprisingly no one ever checks the tickets. Looked like anyone can get on or off and ride for free. 45 minutes for this ride. I finally reach the San Ysidro border. So looking back, I left my house at about 10 am and reached the Zona at 1 pm. That's 3 hours!!
I have my fun at Tj and decide to return to the train madness.
An Amtrak train is scheduled to leave back to L.A. at 6:20 pm. So I figure if I head back to border at 5:30pm I can take a trolley and make it to the station on time for the 6:20. WRONG! Huge line at the border. I don't make it through the line until it's too late. I still take the trolley. On the way this time they do check the tickets. My ticket comes with two stubs, but I lost the bottom stub and the guy starts harrasing me and telling me he was going to kick me off the train. So I'm like, "if its such a big deal, I'll get off and buy another ticket." But he lets it go. I get to the amtrak station at 6:30. Too late for the train. And next one doesn't leave until 8:20pm! That's two hours of waiting!! So I wait, reading a newspaper i found on the trolley. Finally I get on the train, reach the depot, drive home and get there at 12am.
The trip back was like 6 hours! No way I'm doing this again. I spent more time travelling than I spent in the Zona. At the Santa Ana depot, I noticed they had a bus line named Tres Estrellas. This bus goes straight to TJ. They leave every hour of everyday even Weekends. Their fare is 36 bucks total. Next time I'm gonna have to try this bus.
Call AB on phone and ask them to play it.
They will accommodate you.
Okay thanks. But I would think a place like AB wouldn't keep it's number public.
Also, since when did these forums start adding ads?
All that chatter and you did not even answer the important question!
Did you or did you not get to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on any cows?
Angry Dragon69
01-25-09, 00:05
I have my fun at Tj and decide to return to the train madness.
....
The trip back was like 6 hours! No way I'm doing this again. I spent more time travelling than I spent in the Zona. At the Santa Ana depot, I noticed they had a bus line named Tres Estrellas. This bus goes straight to TJ. They leave every hour of everyday even Weekends. Their fare is 36 bucks total. Next time I'm gonna have to try this bus.Hey, tell us about the actual fun times you had.
The train thing definitely sounds like a hassle, but that's what happens when you're not in control of the situation. I'd venture to guess that taking the bus would only be marginally better. I think you're better off driving, you can control (aside from border crossing) the timing of when you want to go and leave, plus gas prices aren't that bad anymore.
In SD for meetings, looks like Sunday will open up around 11 am. I'm going to drive down around noon. If there are brethren to be found, pm me. This will be my fourth trip to the zona.
Wiz Banger
01-25-09, 06:13
I haven't been to TJ in a long time, will most of the girls in the bars take 600 pesos?
Crazzycopp
01-25-09, 11:29
Ok, my first Tijuana report, and it goes a little something like this. I flew into San Diego today from Florida. Ughh long ass trip and got a room at the Holiday Inn on the Bay. Even though I was completly tired I had to do the trek into Tijuana. I had no Idea where I was going or what the hell I was getting myself into, But after reading the reports and directions from the senior reporters on here I actually had a nice easy trip. I walked to the santa Fe Depot a couple blocks from the hotel. And noticed when the Blue Line trolley arrived everyone just walked on, so I followed. The Blue line will bring you sraight to the border, about 15 stops and your there. I didn't even pay for the trolley! No one checked the tickets. So I arrive, follow the group of people over the bridge, stop and get a 5. 00 Viagra, per someones last post. Thank you: o) and off to the strip. I printed a map of the Hot spots also that I found on past reports. I walked around not having a clue, but I made off like I did and no one botherd me. Went into Hong Kong, girls were ok, watched the lesbian show, nothing special, by now I'm a little buzzed and after popping the blue pill, feelin a little frisky, I stopped by the other big club, Adelitas. The girls in there were fuckin smokin! My eyes couldn't stop from scanning. Found one that I wanted smokin hot blonde / brunnette mixed with a smokin bod. But I couldnd get to her too many guys talking to her. Next thing I know a good looking Brunette standing off to my right starts grabbing my shit, lets just say it wasnt long due to my blue little friend we were in route up stairs. 12. 00 for the room 60 for everything and hopped into a cab back to the border. Jumped back on the trolley which I didn't pay for and back to the Hotel. I would just like to thank all the senior members that have posted that made My experience very easy, since I was going into another county and didn't have a clue! Just to think I paid 250. 00 for an american girl the night before I traveled and it wasnt even close the the 60. 00 experience I had!
Tijuana is a good place. Will return one more time before I fly home!
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All that chatter and you did not even answer the important question!
Did you or did you not get to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on any cows?
I did actually. But all he did was look at me, moo, then stroll away to graze on more grass. Not as exciting as I thought it would be.
Hey, tell us about the actual fun times you had.
The train thing definitely sounds like a hassle, but that's what happens when you're not in control of the situation. I'd venture to guess that taking the bus would only be marginally better. I think you're better off driving, you can control (aside from border crossing) the timing of when you want to go and leave, plus gas prices aren't that bad anymore.
Mostly I tried the train trip just to see what it was like. Turned out to be bad experience. Not by any means something that should be avoided by all cause, but I would only recommend it as a last resort.
As for the fun times I had, it lead to an STD. That's right, I got the flu during sex. I have huge headache and runny nose right now and have to keep taking cough medicine. Damn I hate this, I always get a cold after returning from TJ. It never fails. I'm gonna have to start rubbing alcohol on the girls tits before I suck on them. I know a few girls don't even shower after a session. Who knows how many other guys have had those tits in their mouths before me. Next time I'm gonna demand that they shower first. Or just stop sucking on their tits. No, I won't stop doing that. lol.
I would just like to thank all the senior members that have posted that made My experience very easy, since I was going into another county and didn't have a clue! Just to think I paid 250. 00 for an american girl the night before I traveled and it wasnt even close the the 60. 00 experience I had!
Tijuana is a good place. Will return one more time before I fly home!
Glad to hear your first experience was good. I too would have never been able to take the Tj plunge if it wasn't for this site. And since it helped me so much, I like to contribute as well. Glad my map was of help to you.
Clodbuster
01-26-09, 03:01
[QUOTE=Efjayel]I got the flu during sex. I have huge headache and runny nose right now and have to keep taking cough medicine. Damn I hate this, I always get a cold after returning from TJ. It never fails. I'm gonna have to start rubbing alcohol on the girls tits before I suck on them. I know a few girls don't even shower after a session. Who knows how many other guys have had those tits in their mouths before me. Next time I'm gonna demand that they shower first. Or just stop sucking on their tits. No, I won't stop doing that. lol.
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I was wondering if this is common among other mongers. I have been to TJ three times in the past few months and each time I came back I also developed a cold. Any other mongers have this problem? What is the solution??
I finally went down again to Tj and this time took public transportation like I had been talking about before. More like annoying people about it.
Drove to the Santa Ana Depot where I took the Amtrak to Downtown San Diego, then the trolley to the San Ysidro border. All I can say is, avoid doing this. It's the equivalent of hassling with with an airport to reach a destination.
The waiting, sitting around annoying loud kids, the waiting, getting harrased by ticket takers and more waiting. This is how it all went down for those of you interested. Don't read this unless you want to hear about a long annoying trip...
I drove to the Santa Ana depot which takes about 30 minutes from my house, I got there late and decided I should just drive to Tj instead since the next train wouldn't pull out for another 2 hours. I wasn't going to wait 2 hours. Since I was already there I looked around the Amtrak station just to get the feel of the place for the next time. Well they announced the train was 15 minutes late. So I bought a 2 way ticket. $40 bucks!
I waited the long 15 minutes listening to useless chatter from old people. Finally the train arrives, someone gives out the tip that the last train cab are the best bet since they tend to be empty. I entered the second to last train and it was full, walked to the last train and found some empty seats. Then the same old people sat in the chairs next to me including some family with loud annoying kids. I had to put up with this for 2 hours while enjoying some scenery.
Finally I reach San Diego. According to the schedule they where supposed to stop at Old Town San Diego first. They skip it, but didn't mention it. I had to get off the train and ask where I was and what happened to the Old Town stop.
Now I am at the Santa Fe Depot in San Diego. Wasn't sure how or where to get a boarding ticket. I ask a guy and he points me to some machines. I pay for the all day pass of $5 bucks. At least the trolley was on schedule and arrived on time. Luckily there was a guy boarding with me, cause you have to press a button to get into the trolley and he pressed it. I would have completely overlooked it and just stood in front of the trolley door waiting for the door to open and it would have left me behind looking like a fool.
I'm on the trolley, too many people so nowhere to sit. After a few stops some people get off and I get a free booth to myself. Again annoying people and teenagers scream aloud to each other. Surprisingly no one ever checks the tickets. Looked like anyone can get on or off and ride for free. 45 minutes for this ride. I finally reach the San Ysidro border. So looking back, I left my house at about 10 am and reached the Zona at 1 pm. That's 3 hours!!
I have my fun at Tj and decide to return to the train madness.
An Amtrak train is scheduled to leave back to L.A. at 6:20 pm. So I figure if I head back to border at 5:30pm I can take a trolley and make it to the station on time for the 6:20. WRONG! Huge line at the border. I don't make it through the line until it's too late. I still take the trolley. On the way this time they do check the tickets. My ticket comes with two stubs, but I lost the bottom stub and the guy starts harrasing me and telling me he was going to kick me off the train. So I'm like, "if its such a big deal, I'll get off and buy another ticket." But he lets it go. I get to the amtrak station at 6:30. Too late for the train. And next one doesn't leave until 8:20pm! That's two hours of waiting!! So I wait, reading a newspaper i found on the trolley. Finally I get on the train, reach the depot, drive home and get there at 12am.
The trip back was like 6 hours! No way I'm doing this again. I spent more time travelling than I spent in the Zona. At the Santa Ana depot, I noticed they had a bus line named Tres Estrellas. This bus goes straight to TJ. They leave every hour of everyday even Weekends. Their fare is 36 bucks total. Next time I'm gonna have to try this bus.
Well, glad to see you finally did it!
Cupple o' comments:
Take a small book or disposable magazine/newspaper.
Why did you want to get off at Old Town? There is no benifit, and it makes a MUCH longer trolley ride.
I TOLD you to get the business class ticket. :)
What made you think you could get from the border to the train station in 50 minutes!! :eek: The trolley trip itself is over 30 minutes. I think my record time through the border at 5:00-ish is like 25 minutes. That's cutting things awfully close.
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