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Sgt Perv
01-26-09, 05:40
I got the flu during sex. I have huge headache and runny nose right now and have to keep taking cough medicine. Damn I hate this, I always get a cold after returning from TJ. It never fails. I'm gonna have to start rubbing alcohol on the girls tits before I suck on them. I know a few girls don't even shower after a session. Who knows how many other guys have had those tits in their mouths before me. Next time I'm gonna demand that they shower first. Or just stop sucking on their tits. No, I won't stop doing that. lol.I was wondering if this is common among other mongers. I have been to TJ three times in the past few months and each time I came back I also developed a cold. Any other mongers have this problem? What is the solution??Try taking a couple 500mg of vitamin C the day before, day of and day after a TJ trip.

Start the meds that work for you, on the way to TJ if you are susceptible to colds (drinking alcohol does neutralize antibiotics ).

Seriously the most important thing you can do is keep "your own hands" clean. Touching the doors ,chairs ,table and such in any crowded area can cause you to pick up a germ or virus (hands transfer it to your mouth).

Most store have those little travel bottle of clear (mostly alcohol) hand sanitizer ($1) (women carry them in their purse). Use a little every half hour or so ( it will air dry quickly) and especially before you touch anything that you are going to eat.
So, by building up your immune system, taking meds to kill it at the start and keeping your hands clean (really important), your chances of getting sick are greatly reduced.

If you choice to rub your stuff down with the hand sanitizer after arriba like I do, be prepared a one minute sting. Nothing as bad as an aftershave lotion sting/burn but you know it is there for a short minute sometimes.

Dos Lunas
01-26-09, 06:59
Thanks to the contributions posted here, I decided to try the Intercalifornias bus line in Santa Ana for $28 roundtrip leaving at 9:15pm. I took a nap and soon realized how quickly we were at the border at 10: 45pm. Took CJ's advice and decided not to try a casa de cambio at this hour, eventhough the exchange rate is at 14:1.

Took a Libre taxi for $3 to Adelitas and saw many hot chicas. But since this was going to be a 6 hour party for me before heading back I decided to take it slow and enjoy the atmosphere. I went to the delicious taco stand on the westside corner for the best tacos in the area for a dollar each.

Walked through the alley and saw some cuties but not my favorites. Went into Hongkong enjoyed the party atmosphere. Multiple girl on girl shows with other chicas dancing about. Got a bunch of dollar bills for the full hands on touch and feel on some gorgeous chicas.

Tried some of the other clubs and walked around. Felt safe but kept to myself and aware of my surroundings. Brushed many peddlers off and didn't see too many rateros.

Had 1 chica from adelitas and 1 from HK. Good food, drinks, entertainment and 2 GFE's for a night I would have spent at the local strip joint with blue balls. Took the bus back, slept, and like clockwork within 90 minutes I was back in Santa Ana. I had a very good time.

Adelitas chica was $50 and $12 for the room. HK chica was $60 and $11 for the room. Both sessions there was no knock on the door.

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Dornyone
01-26-09, 08:44
"each time I came back I also developed a cold. Any other mongers have this problem? What is the solution??"
This is a high risk pursuit, if you have a cold, stay away, if you don't want a cold, stay away. What part of DFK or DATY is approved by CDC Atlanta?
DYODD and RTFF.

Efjayel
01-26-09, 10:32
I was wondering if this is common among other mongers. I have been to TJ three times in the past few months and each time I came back I also developed a cold. Any other mongers have this problem? What is the solution??

I guess I'm not alone because I always, and I mean ALWAYS develop a cold after visiting Tj. Next time I should take some hand sanitizer and mouth wash and use them every half hour. lol


Well, glad to see you finally did it!

Cupple o' comments:

Take a small book or disposable magazine/newspaper.

Why did you want to get off at Old Town? There is no benifit, and it makes a MUCH longer trolley ride.

I TOLD you to get the business class ticket. :)

What made you think you could get from the border to the train station in 50 minutes!! :eek: The trolley trip itself is over 30 minutes. I think my record time through the border at 5:00-ish is like 25 minutes. That's cutting things awfully close.

Thanks.

I didn't want to get off at Old Town San Diego. But according to the schedule it was supposed to stop at Old Town before Downtown but it didnt. So when the train reached the stop they conductor said, "Now arriving at San Diego!" So I was like, "Wait, which one? Old Town or Downtown San Diego?" I needed to verify because the conductor also said, "all passengers must exit the train at this point." I didn't know which stop I was in.

Business class doesn't get better seating, just priority seating. But from what I saw heading back home, there was more people waiting in line on the business class than regular. It made no difference to me either way.

I was HOPING i would make to the train station under 50 minutes. But that's all right, I'm not doing the train trip again. Way too much of a hassle. :(



"each time I came back I also developed a cold. Any other mongers have this problem? What is the solution??"
This is a high risk pursuit, if you have a cold, stay away, if you don't want a cold, stay away. What part of DFK or DATY is approved by CDC Atlanta?
DYODD and RTFF.

I don't do DFK nor DATY. So the only other causes are from kissing the girls bodies or the food from the stands.

Country John
01-26-09, 17:54
I was wondering if this is common among other mongers. I have been to TJ three times in the past few months and each time I came back I also developed a cold. Any other mongers have this problem? What is the solution??

It is common. There are good reasons.

1. Americans live in a sanitized environment compared to Mexcicans. Mexicans have more resistance to viruses and bacteria it seems.

2. Bacteria is everywhere, nobody washes their hands (well, almost nobody) and the foods you eat from those taco stands (especially those bacon wrapped hotdogs) are nasty.

3. The girl is probably sick.

4. There is probably a lot of sickness in the club when it's packed.

5. The hotel rooms are NOT clean, they are full of bacteria and body fluids.

6. There is no reason number 6.

7. You are probably spending more time in the cold than usual.

The only way to avoid exposure is to come in a clean-room suit but that's not practical right?

Get into the habit of washing your hands OFTEN. Every door knob or door handle you touch is laced with bacteria. Stay away from the taco carts. The airborne bacteria and germs alone should be reason enough to stay away especially if it's been windy. If you MUST eat something, go to a restaurant.

Country John

Phordphan
01-26-09, 18:34
Business class doesn't get better seating, just priority seating. But from what I saw heading back home, there was more people waiting in line on the business class than regular. It made no difference to me either way.


Actually, B/C has a separate car. So, you get priority seating and you're away from the unwashed masses and rowdy kidz! :)

Phordphan
01-26-09, 18:36
The only way to avoid exposure is to come in a clean-room suit but that's not practical right?

Well, one could try one of those full-body condoms like the ones Leslie Nielsen and Priscilla Presley used in Naked Gun!! :)

Cobra Comander
01-26-09, 20:18
Actually, B/C has a separate car. So, you get priority seating and you're away from the unwashed masses and rowdy kidz! :)

Agreed! I used to take the train ALOT and can say that this really was the way to do it. Also included was free soda's water and snacks, newspapers and a free glass of wine.

It's nice not having annoying ass people around especially since you'll have a TON of that during the trolley trip (and in TJ itself obviously)

Also, I just want to state for those of you who use the Trolley and don't pay, I see them checking tickets about 75% of the time. I KNOW the fine is at LEAST $100 (although as MTS security was pulling some non paying riders off last week I heard them say the fine went up at the first of the year and it's now $300). Not sure if they were just trying to scare people or what though, that amouth seems a bit excessive.

Buy a $5 day pass.... It's not worth the ticket. If you can drop $100 banging putas you can drop $5 to ride the trolley



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Efjayel
01-26-09, 20:19
Thanks to the contributions posted here, I decided to try the Intercalifornias bus line in Santa Ana for $28 roundtrip leaving at 9:15pm. I took a nap and soon realized how quickly we were at the border at 10: 45pm.

Adelitas chica was $50 and $12 for the room. HK chica was $60 and $11 for the room. Both sessions there was no knock on the door.



Intercalifas bus? Why didn't I see this? This bus is at the Santa Ana Bus depot or somewhere else? Or are you talking about the Tres Estrellas bus?

Do you remember the name of the girls? The ass on the AB girl looks very familiar, lol.


Agreed! I used to take the train ALOT and can say that this really was the way to do it. Also included was free soda's water and snacks, newspapers and a free glass of wine.

(although as MTS security was pulling some non paying riders off last week I heard them say the fine went up at the first of the year and it's now $300). Not sure if they were just trying to scare people or what though, that amouth seems a bit excessive.



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It is $300 bucks now. I think I read it on their website somewhere.

Didn't you find the ride long and boring either way?

Cobra Comander
01-26-09, 22:37
Didn't you find the ride long and boring either way?

Yes. The Trolley trip for ME is 2 hours each way. However. I'm not gonna go into details but, I have NO other option to get from my place in San Diego to the border. (Unless I go with a friend of course but I generally like to go solo style)


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Ruffianomega
01-27-09, 04:20
I am planning a trip very soon and I intend to spend lots of money. I want to know where would be the best place to go. I have been to nogales and rocky point but never to Tijuana. From everything I read it seems tijuana is the place to go. Seems like the prices are much better there also.

Rocky point prices. $100. $200

Nogales prices. $160 +. Seems like all the girls start at about $160

Tijuana. From reading in the forums it seems tijuana prices can start around $40

And also would it be better to change your cash to peso because of the $1 to 14peso exchange rate. Seems they don't always average the exchange rate our properly in mexico.

Open for discussion:

Which do you like more and why? . Tijuana, Nogales, Rocky point

- looking for lady lovin and the best possible place.

Country John
01-27-09, 20:09
I am planning a trip very soon and I intend to spend lots of money. I want to know where would be the best place to go. I have been to nogales and rocky point but never to Tijuana. From everything I read it seems tijuana is the place to go. Seems like the prices are much better there also.

Rocky point prices. $100. $200

Nogales prices. $160 +. Seems like all the girls start at about $160

Tijuana. From reading in the forums it seems tijuana prices can start around $40

And also would it be better to change your cash to peso because of the $1 to 14peso exchange rate. Seems they don't always average the exchange rate our properly in mexico.

Open for discussion:

Which do you like more and why? . Tijuana, Nogales, Rocky point

- looking for lady lovin and the best possible place.

1. NEVER advertise on a public board that you are coming to TJ to spend "lots of money." It could end up costing you more than money. Don't do it. While we like to think we are all angels here at ISG, I am certain there are a few exceptions.

Based on #1 I would NOT make arrangements to meet anyone here except girls you intend to have sex with, and even then only after you arrive.

You sound like you have some experience, so I'll not rant.

2. The girls understand the difference in exchange but become easily confused when they try to do the math in their head. (Lucky for us eh?)

They know that $50.00us is $50.00us however, and whatever that works out to in Pesos doesn't concern them. They want $50.00 (or $60.00). The trick here is for you to only have pesos, that way they get confused and tend to go for the deal you are offering (500p) which is $32.50us (as an example).

Mongers think with their little heads, so it's not unreasonable to assume that the girls do too. As of this date, 50.00 USD=708.362 MXN.

Exchanges vary regardless of the current posted exchange rate. It varies from business to business, and NOWHERE will you get the current exchage rate. Some banks here in TJ will not do conversions except for existing customers. So you will go to a Casa de Cambio, and it's just a matter of finding one that has the best rate. They are mostly all in the same ball park, within a few pesos, so take your pick. You should do your exchange in Mexico.

Hey, i'm not saying that the girls will go for $500p., but you get my drift, right?

Have a GREAT trip.

Be Safe and Be Nice
Country John

Champak Lal
01-29-09, 17:33
Are the rates generally better un US side or Mexico side?

QUOTE=Country John]1. NEVER advertise on a public board that you are coming to TJ to spend "lots of money." It could end up costing you more than money. Don't do it. While we like to think we are all angels here at ISG, I am certain there are a few exceptions.

Based on #1 I would NOT make arrangements to meet anyone here except girls you intend to have sex with, and even then only after you arrive.

You sound like you have some experience, so I'll not rant.

2. The girls understand the difference in exchange but become easily confused when they try to do the math in their head. (Lucky for us eh?)

They know that $50.00us is $50.00us however, and whatever that works out to in Pesos doesn't concern them. They want $50.00 (or $60.00). The trick here is for you to only have pesos, that way they get confused and tend to go for the deal you are offering (500p) which is $32.50us (as an example).

Mongers think with their little heads, so it's not unreasonable to assume that the girls do too. As of this date, 50.00 USD=708.362 MXN.

Exchanges vary regardless of the current posted exchange rate. It varies from business to business, and NOWHERE will you get the current exchage rate. Some banks here in TJ will not do conversions except for existing customers. So you will go to a Casa de Cambio, and it's just a matter of finding one that has the best rate. They are mostly all in the same ball park, within a few pesos, so take your pick. You should do your exchange in Mexico.

Hey, i'm not saying that the girls will go for $500p., but you get my drift, right?

Have a GREAT trip.

Be Safe and Be Nice
Country John[/QUOTE]

Surfnk9
01-29-09, 20:32
On at past trip I noticed a pool hall on 5th (I think) just off Evo but didn’t go in. I’m not great at the game but I do like to shoot a few racks every now and then. Has anyone been there or know anything about it? Is it gringo friendly?
I plan to go down on Super Bowl Sunday and will be there from afternoon till late evening. So there will be recharge time between the game and chicas. Any info will be appreciated.

Country John
01-29-09, 23:06
Are the rates generally better un US side or Mexico side?


Mexico side.

Efjayel
01-30-09, 08:19
You can see the going U.S. rate by looking at Craiglist. It's about $150-$300 stateside for an hour of fun with a call girl. In Tj you can get a pro from $20 to $100 bucks for 30-60 minutes of lay.

You tell me which is better?

Let's not forget than in Tj you simply view a bunch of girls and pick the one you like. In USA, you call a girl and it's a hit or miss on what she will look like.

Depeche Mode
01-31-09, 05:47
Sigh. Looks like I'm 1 man-ing Tijuana tomorrow. I hear I might get my head chopped off or something to that effect. I hope not though. Well the plans as of now. Leave Los Angeles at around 1pm. Arrive at 4ish. Go to Adelitas, do my thing. Leave by 5. Back in L. A. At 8pm.

Cienega32
01-31-09, 09:04
The Hard Rock Cafe has closed down. Don't see why anyone would want to travel to another country and eat at a US franchise restaurant anyways.

I was looking at your map (great job!) and was surprised to see where the HRC was located. Was it always there?

I stopped in there once to add to my glassware collection and seem to remember it being away from the Zona. I think there was a Sr Frogs by it too. It was 7 or 8 years ago so I might be blurry on it.

Sorry to resurect an old post but I was lurking around wistfully, remembering my visits back then. Good times. Nowadays, I sadly watch El Centro in Cd Juarez come tumbling down, one bar at a time...

Ho Lover1
01-31-09, 14:50
On at past trip I noticed a pool hall on 5th (I think) just off Evo but didn’t go in. I’m not great at the game but I do like to shoot a few racks every now and then. Has anyone been there or know anything about it? Is it gringo friendly?
I plan to go down on Super Bowl Sunday and will be there from afternoon till late evening. So there will be recharge time between the game and chicas. Any info will be appreciated.On my last trip, I noticed that a pool hall opened in the alley. I don't know where you were going to watch the Super Bowl, but there is a Caliente in the alley also. I have watched games there before, but I prefer the location on Revolution. The alley would be the best place for seeing the chicas, shooting a little pool and watching the big game.

Phordphan
01-31-09, 18:56
I was looking at your map (great job!) and was surprised to see where the HRC was located. Was it always there?

I stopped in there once to add to my glassware collection and seem to remember it being away from the Zona. I think there was a Sr Frogs by it too. It was 7 or 8 years ago so I might be blurry on it.

Sorry to resurect an old post but I was lurking around wistfully, remembering my visits back then. Good times. Nowadays, I sadly watch El Centro in Cd Juarez come tumbling down, one bar at a time...

Yes, it was always on Revolucion, near 2nd, east side.

Just a vacant building now (like lots of the places up and down the blvd.) :(

Mr Daisy
02-01-09, 00:59
Hi everyone, thanks for sharing all the info on this board.

I'm from SF and I'm going to Tijuana next weekend to relax and have some fun. I've been once before for a whole weekend where I then stayed at the Travel Lodge across the border. I'm def not an amateur, as I've been to Amsterdam and S. America many times and speak ok Spanish. I like the city and culture of Tijuana, so I'd prefer to stay in a decent hotel in the city; one that is safe for my belongings, that allows visitors, is nicely kept, and possibly has a pool. My budget is around $100.

I was kicking my self last trip as I befriended a non-pro at HK (ex ribbon girl) that wanted to come back to my hotel, but I had to leave early and was staying across the border. I've been corresponding with her by email we plan to chill out a little while I'm there (she's cute, 20 yr old hipster girl).

Anyways, I've looked at a few spots; pueblo amigo, leyva, Hotel Lucerna, but I'd like some input. Keep in mind this is a vacation for me so my budget's not that tight.

Thanks guys!

Mr. D

TroyBoy
02-01-09, 01:48
Hi everyone, thanks for sharing all the info on this board.

I'm from SF and I'm going to Tijuana next weekend to relax and have some fun. I've been once before for a whole weekend where I then stayed at the Travel Lodge across the border. I'm def not an amateur, as I've been to Amsterdam and S. America many times and speak ok Spanish. I like the city and culture of Tijuana, so I'd prefer to stay in a decent hotel in the city; one that is safe for my belongings, that allows visitors, is nicely kept, and possibly has a pool. My budget is around $100.

I was kicking my self last trip as I befriended a non-pro at HK (ex ribbon girl) that wanted to come back to my hotel, but I had to leave early and was staying across the border. I've been corresponding with her by email we plan to chill out a little while I'm there (she's cute, 20 yr old hipster girl).

Anyways, I've looked at a few spots; pueblo amigo, leyva, Hotel Lucerna, but I'd like some input. Keep in mind this is a vacation for me so my budget's not that tight.

Thanks guys!

Mr. DHotel Villa Zaragosa is a good option: http://www.hotellavilla. Biz/

I have stayed here many times and it is clean/secure and about 8 blks from the Zona. Rooms will be in the $50-60 range. It is located between 7th-8th on Madero. I think the website has a map.

Country John
02-01-09, 02:08
Hi everyone, thanks for sharing all the info on this board.

I'm from SF and I'm going to Tijuana next weekend to relax and have some fun. I've been once before for a whole weekend where I then stayed at the Travel Lodge across the border. I'm def not an amateur, as I've been to Amsterdam and S. America many times and speak ok Spanish. I like the city and culture of Tijuana, so I'd prefer to stay in a decent hotel in the city; one that is safe for my belongings, that allows visitors, is nicely kept, and possibly has a pool. My budget is around $100.

I was kicking my self last trip as I befriended a non-pro at HK (ex ribbon girl) that wanted to come back to my hotel, but I had to leave early and was staying across the border. I've been corresponding with her by email we plan to chill out a little while I'm there (she's cute, 20 yr old hipster girl).

Anyways, I've looked at a few spots; pueblo amigo, leyva, Hotel Lucerna, but I'd like some input. Keep in mind this is a vacation for me so my budget's not that tight.

Thanks guys!

Mr. D

Well, welcome to Tijuana Ma Ma Ma Ma Ma Ma Ma Ma Ma Mr Daisey. Sounds to me like you have one hell of a weekend planned with that 20 year old, a lose budget and a hankering for a clean hotel room. I think you are in good shape for what many would call a "dream come tue."

The Pueblo Amigo is alwas a good choice for a decent place close to the border on the Mexico side. When you plan to stay in the room boinking a tightie, you want the place to be decent. There is a restaurant and a bar there that can you put to good use between pops, the showers are nice so you can get in there with her an scrub her down before sessioning her. Nothing like a freshly scrubbed 20 year old tightie in a crisp queen-sized bed at the Pueblo Amigo.

The Marriott in the Hopodromo area is a nice spot too, but it's a bit away from the border; never know when you might need to make a run for it. You could make it to the border in three minutes if you ran from the Pueblo Amigo. If you ran from the Marriott, it would be about a seven mile run, (not that you should worry about such things).

If the 20 year old tightie turns out to be a no-show, then you are about 5 minutes away from Adelita's by taxi ($5 or $50p.) if you stay at PA. There's a massage place next to PE (fuck...I can't remember the name) that is an Adelita quality and above clip joint in case you don't want to bother with the Zona seeing how your budget is loose.

The Marriott is a greater distance away and no guarantees about being girl friendly, although I never heard they were not. Why fuck with it?

Lucerna is more dollars but you have to ak yourself if it's worth it. I'd take PA any day of the week.

Concerning your assasinaton by the Drug Cartel Narcotraficante Hit Squads and Stewmasters, they are somewhat occupied at the moment hunting down and killing people who are preventing them from utilizing the trafficking resources available in Baja California to smuggle narcotics into the United States. I'm afraid you'll have to become actively involved in the drug trade in order to qualify for assasination.

Enjoy your trip. I know you must be looking forward to it.

Be safe and be nice
Country John

Efjayel
02-01-09, 04:10
Yes, it was always on Revolucion, near 2nd, east side.

Just a vacant building now (like lots of the places up and down the blvd.) :(


The bank there is closed? Man, I really need to update my map. But it was less than a year ago when I walked and verified all those locations on my map. Guess I'm gonna have to do it again. :(

Glad you liked my map Cienega, thanks!

Mr Daisy
02-01-09, 10:09
Well, welcome to Tijuana Ma Ma Ma Ma Ma Ma Ma Ma I think you are in good shape for what many would call a "dream come tue."

The Pueblo Amigo is alwas a good choice for a decent place close to the border on the Mexico side.

..you are about 5 minutes away from Adelita's by taxi ($5 or $50p.) if you stay at PA. There's a massage place next to PE (that is an Adelita quality and above clip joint in case you don't want to bother with the Zona seeing how your budget is loose.

The Marriott is a greater distance away and no guarantees about being girl friendly, although I never heard they were not. Why fuck with it?

Lucerna is more dollars but you have to ak yourself if it's worth it. I'd take PA any day of the week.

I'm afraid you'll have to become actively involved in the drug trade in order to qualify for assasination.

Enjoy your trip. I know you must be looking forward to it.

Be safe and be nice.

Country JohnThanks John! And thanks for the countless other tips.

I've gathered from your post and experience the Puebla Amiga is the place to stay. After checking the website and locale I'll probably book a king room tomorrow. At around $85 its only about $10 more than the travel lodge and probably way nicer.

Thanks for the tip on the massage parlor near PA, as I'm somewhat partial to the Asian massage joints living here in SF. I might check it out. I've good reason for high hopes for the reg. girl I met on the last trip. Regardless, I will probably spend my days chatting with locals as I've done in the past with positive results in S. America.

Anyways, I am looking froward to some serious enjoyment in the midst of the financial meltdown, and thanks again everyone for the info.

Mr. D

Dmasters
02-02-09, 00:02
I'm visiting Tijuana this week. My passport has expired but I have my birth certificate. I understand a passport would be needed after Jan 31. Is anyone aware if they are enforcing this new rule?

Lobo 003
02-02-09, 00:41
I'm visiting Tijuana this week. My passport has expired but I have my birth certificate. I understand a passport would be needed after Jan 31. Is anyone aware if they are enforcing this new rule?
June 1 2009 is the deadline
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cbpmc/cbpmc_2223.html

LOBO

Earthworm
02-02-09, 22:24
I plan to be in the Tijuana area the weekend of 2/14. I've heard many recent reports on the news that the Tijuana area is being hit hard by the drug wars in Mexico and it is not a safe place for tourists to go. What have you guys seen? Would it be safe if I was down in the Adalitas area on a Friday night? I generally stay until about 1 am and cab it back to the border. Should I cancel my plans or is it safe if I stick to the streets right around all the bars (adalitas, chicago club, etc)?

Thanks for the help.

Earthworm
02-02-09, 22:44
I plan to be in the Tijuana area the weekend of 2/14. I've heard many recent reports on the news that the Tijuana area is being hit hard by the drug wars in Mexico and it is not a safe place for tourists to go. What have you guys seen? Would it be safe if I was down in the Adalitas area on a Friday night? I generally stay until about 1 am and cab it back to the border. Should I cancel my plans or is it safe if I stick to the streets right around all the bars (adalitas, chicago club, etc)?

Thanks for the help.

Dornyone
02-03-09, 04:44
Earthworm, make like your name and you'll be fine.

Cienega32
02-03-09, 05:44
Yes, it was always on Revolucion, near 2nd, east side.

Just a vacant building now (like lots of the places up and down the blvd.) :(
Thanks for that. I guess I'm more blurry than I thought.

I can remember walking up 4 or 5 blocks on Rev to Adelitas and the Alley from a parking garage but never remembered the Hard Rock being up there. I remember driving to it on one occasion and, for some reason, think of it somewhere in the Zona Rio area by the monument/traffic circles.

The one thing I DO remember was geting searched and "wanded" to get in which I thought was 'interesting' back then. And walking The Alley...

Country John
02-03-09, 17:51
I plan to be in the Tijuana area the weekend of 2/14. I've heard many recent reports on the news that the Tijuana area is being hit hard by the drug wars in Mexico and it is not a safe place for tourists to go. What have you guys seen? Would it be safe if I was down in the Adalitas area on a Friday night? I generally stay until about 1 am and cab it back to the border. Should I cancel my plans or is it safe if I stick to the streets right around all the bars (adalitas, chicago club, etc)?

Thanks for the help.

If you are not actively involved in securing control of drug traffic routes, supply lines, personnel, political and law enforcement support, then the narcos will probably leave you alone. I always get asked to drive cars back to the USA for $500. Stuff like that. But you don't have to be a mental giant to figure that one out. You'll be ok if you cab it to the club and back. Be careful coming back. If you are falling down drunk, best to wait until you straighten up a bit.

You'll be OK if you stay close to the clubs and not wander off.

Country John

Pablito Diablito
02-05-09, 21:48
I plan to be in the Tijuana area the weekend of 2/14. I've heard many recent reports on the news that the Tijuana area is being hit hard by the drug wars in Mexico and it is not a safe place for tourists to go. What have you guys seen? Would it be safe if I was down in the Adalitas area on a Friday night? I generally stay until about 1 am and cab it back to the border. Should I cancel my plans or is it safe if I stick to the streets right around all the bars (adalitas, chicago club, etc)?

Thanks for the help.Just make it a point to keep a low profile and be considerate of others. Leave the rolex at home, stay out of the shadows and just have a good time. Try not to drink too much either. Tequila can mess with people, and alcohol fuels a lot of bad decisions.

Be nice, stay smart

PD

Pablito Diablito
02-05-09, 21:56
I'm visiting Tijuana this week. My passport has expired but I have my birth certificate. I understand a passport would be needed after Jan 31. Is anyone aware if they are enforcing this new rule?They are enforcing the new rule, but an expired US passport is cool. It establishes that you are a citizen. I would also bring a valid ID as well.

Earthworm
02-06-09, 06:12
If you are not actively involved in securing control of drug traffic routes, supply lines, personnel, political and law enforcement support, then the narcos will probably leave you alone. I always get asked to drive cars back to the USA for $500. Stuff like that. But you don't have to be a mental giant to figure that one out. You'll be ok if you cab it to the club and back. Be careful coming back. If you are falling down drunk, best to wait until you straighten up a bit.

You'll be OK if you stay close to the clubs and not wander off.

Country JohnThanks for the run down.

I'm not the big drinking type, so I feel confident that all will be well.

Earthworm

Cobra Comander
02-06-09, 21:20
I'm visiting Tijuana this week. My passport has expired but I have my birth certificate. I understand a passport would be needed after Jan 31. Is anyone aware if they are enforcing this new rule?

I crossed Tuesday 2/3/09 with my drivers license and birth certificate.


CC

Pablito Diablito
02-07-09, 04:07
Hey Guys,

I'm not sure hat the fall out from these two jack-asses is going to be yet, but be aware that working girls are going to be on-edge for a while.

http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/feb/06/bn6sailors165034-sailors-charges/?zIndex=49284

Pablito Diablito
02-07-09, 04:17
I crossed Tuesday 2/3/09 with my drivers license and birth certificate.

CCIf you drive across without a passport expect to get pulled please-f*ck-with-me-line.

BTW CC, it's about time you got that passport, Thailand is calling!!

Ruffianomega
02-07-09, 06:11
Birth certificates are still good until june 2009

Cobra Comander
02-07-09, 08:55
Fucked up shit.... If this is true I hope they get whats coming and are NOT returned to the US.

http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/feb/06/bn6sailors165034-sailors-charges/?zIndex=49284

CC

Efjayel
02-08-09, 00:22
Hey Guys,

I'm not sure hat the fall out from these two jack-asses is going to be yet, but be aware that working girls are going to be on-edge for a while.

http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/feb/06/bn6sailors165034-sailors-charges/?zIndex=49284


Hopefully they got the "royal" treatment from Tj police. lol.

Wonder what bar/hotel and what girls happened to be the victims.

Efjayel
02-09-09, 10:59
Got info from one of my sources that the two girls attacked where street girls. So far that's all I know. I'll try to get more info.

Country John
02-09-09, 20:41
The girlie has been Acapulco for two weeks, I see nothing but pussy and my dick starts becoming a pain in the ass so it was time to saddle up and get AlleyKat 105 into the books. Here is a brief summary of the trip.

Left the studio late last night, around 11PM, and reached a moment of decision while driving away and reaching an intersection: do I turn right and do some sport fucking, or do I turn left and head back to the house and go to bed with a throbbing erection, a pocket full of cash and a hankerin for some live pussy. I thought about it for about 3 seconds and then turned right. I needed to bust my nut in a warm pussy, and so it was to be.

I parked my car away from the Zona, in the lot on Revolution behind Gigante, across from El Torito. You know, the one with the spiral entrance drive. I parked there because the other lots are where I usually park, her ex (who drives a Taxi Libre) would spot the car from the street, so it was a precaution. I put $60. in cash in my pocket along with my drivers license, the spare key to my car and the parking ticket from the lot (so I could demonstrate where my car was located, in case TJPD got froggy with me). Everything else was left in the locked car including all my the keys and my wallet.

I had no plans to go to the Zona proper. Too risky since a lot of people there know me through my association with the family, I don't need problemas.

So I headed off on foot down revolution and made the left on Art.123. I was struck by two things: one, how terribly dead Revolution is and two, how many cops were out. There were cops everywhere. One car was parked in front of the Banamex ATM with lights flashing. He was there for the whole trip. The cops were stopping everything with California plates, no plates, SUV's etc. I realized it was busy out there, but the cops were everywhere. Much more than I am used to seeing.

The cops saw me walking along but never stopped to chat. From the looks of things, there seemed to be a lot of traffic in and around the Zona so they most likely had other things on their alleged minds.

Anyway, It was time to have a look around without getting to close to the Zona. I continues up Art 123 one block and found the object of my aggression standing on the corner at the next intersection holding up the hotel. She looked pretty good actually. Young, tightly wrapped, morena, clean etc. I made one pass thinking there might be other possibilities but decided to turn around and talk to her, if she was right then I could be back on the road in a half hour and under my electric blanket for the night.

She "pssst'ed" me as I walked by so I turned around and saw her again. The first thing that surprised me was how well I could communicate with her in Spanish. I guess I'm doing pretty well with my Spanish because she had no trouble negotiating. We got the normal stuff out of the way and she wanted $20. for 20 minutes and $5 for the hrooom. I told her I wanted her for 40 minutes for $40 but she wanted $50 + $1- for the room. I looked at her like she was a fucking idiot and reminded her that $20. for 20 minutes translated to $40 for 40 minutes, and I'd go $10 for the room. When she agreed with that I then explained that I want total sin ropa and full sex for the $40 minutes. I asked her if she had a problem with that and she said "no" so arriba we went.

Her name is "Nancy" (real name is Minerva sp) and she is from Vera Cruz (yeah right). Claimed to be 29 but I'd put her a bit older than that although she would have no trouble passing for 25 or so.

I paid the room, got her upstair and she wanted the money first. I put the money on the chair and said OK, but when we are finished. Again, she had no problem with that. She promptly disrobed and when she got herself out of those clothes, I noticed that she was a bit chunky. She still looked good though, I am used to boning my girlie who is mas flaca.

Nancy immediately opened a condom and wanted to cover blow job me but if I don't get a BBBJ, all she'll be doing is sucking on rubber for 40 minutes so I convinced her to start of with a very convincing hand job which was no problem. When my dick was throbbing, I told her to mount. The condom was OK, lubed etc, but she was as dry as a bone. She was an under-performer on top but had great tits and a delightful set of those grande pezons I love so much. I sucked on those why doing my crunches.

I pounded her for about 15 minutes in cowgirl then did the flip. She was uncomfortable with her feet so high in the air so I had to compromise a bit and spend some time in Mish. She was a delightful screw, lots of good skin contact, warm pussy but again, very dry.

Switched her to doggie and pounded away again for a bit. I could see she was getting tired. I KNOW she was getting tired. She thought it would be a standard quick pop but that is NOT me. I like to work the session and take her from different positions to experience as much of her young body as possible. If she were not a *****, I would have liked to DATY, she has a beautiful pussy, trimmed and luscious.

After what seemed like an hour, she indicated that we were running out of time. I told her at the beginning of the session that there might be a propina if things go well. She killed the propina by opening her mouth.

FINALLY, I switched back to mish, got her to prone out and pushed mister dick back up inside that pretty pussy for the golden strokes, that ended as usual, a cum filled condom.

She was slow to leave the room (waiting for the propina) and waited until I was dressed. I picked up the money and passed it to her, she took it, smiled and actually said "Gracias." Then she walked back to the street with me and said good night. I trekked back to the parking lot. Again, cops everywhere including in the lot. One truck with two cops were talking to some guys driving a "Mr. Swish" van (looks like a janitorial company truck) with Mexico plates. They were definitely moving stuff from the van to the police vehicle.

Got to the car, headed back to La Mesa and crawled under that electric blanket at about 12:45AM. Feeling good but missing my girlie. I do declare that my sessions with my girl are 100% better than anything I can get in the Zona IMHO. There is just no substitute for a full on bareback monkey fuck with a maya flaca that can go on for hours.

Revolution is getting scary at night. Everyone seems a bit jumpy, and everyone takes a second look at everyone else. Anticipating the rain, I had an old jacket and cap in the car that I put on when I exited my vehicle, and I'm glad I did. It helped me blend with the rest of the foot traffic. There was nothing to draw attention to myself and that I think is an important part of the game now. Low profile, don't stand out.

The session was better than I expected partially because we seemed to get along well. It REALLY helps to speak some Spanish. It gives you a chance to lighten things up and make the girl a bit more comfortable with you. That translates in to a better performance in the room if she's willing. It's going to be a long day today but I'm thinking that, since the girley doesn't get back until Sunday or Monday, I might be able to get AlleyKay 106 in. If I do, I will most certainly post a trip report.

Country John
Spell checked but not proof read.

Country John
02-09-09, 20:42
GF is in Acapulco until Thursday and my dick refused to wait so I trekked to the land of bends and squats for another round of wick dipping. Got to Rev at about 10 last night. This time I strolled around for a bit to get a better sense of the happenings on a Saturday night, first on Rev. I think I disguised myself well enough so as to not draw attention and without getting into why I think it worked, let's just say I feel good about it at best.

Rev is a faint echo of the good old days and nights. It's truly a ghost town. The only foot traffic besides the few clubbers were people apparently going home or elsewhere with a purpose. No loitering, no hanging out, none of the flair and flavor of years gone by like back in the 80's. Very sad really. A few of the clubs (El Torito, etc.) are still open, but many are shuttered, lights out and boarded up. You have to walk a long stretch to stand in front of a lit storefront, and you don't want to be just standing around either.

I think the narcos enjoy the pressure they are putting on the administration. Everyone is staying home.

Finally walked toward the Zona and went straight into AB. Lots of pretty girls, lots of guys, business as usual. I sure see much more attitude on the part of the girls these days. Used to be they'd beckon but now they just stand there waiting for the wallets to approach. As usual, all the guys were spending money and trying to impress the girls they are only going to end up paying anyway. There was a bit of traffic arriba but again, nothing like the old days. AB felt very safe and everyone there seemed to be enjoying themselves. I walked the whole club and took a real good look around. Didn't see any familiar faces.

I decided to cross the street and check out Tropical. I walked the club from front to back again, there were several empty tables and a row of girls sitting at the bar. My plan was not to get involved with anyone at the clubs anyway, but I decided to go to HK and see the new lay-out close up as well as get a beer (which they were selling at the door.) HK looks much better, it's set up for easy traffic slow and I sense that, even on a crowded night, people might not have much trouble getting around. I walked the club, front to back, upstairs, downstairs, took a long hard look. Lots of nice girls there. There were several that looked especially good but again, that's not what I was looking for. Also, no sign of Salma (who gets off at 8 and was probably watching her novellas or fucking PhordPhan). I think if I had run into her, it would have been an interesting time and a great conversation. It's probably better this way.

LOTS of police action last night. These guys were all over the map, truck beds full of rateros and drunkards. They shut down constitution just ahead of the alley for a bit to let a train of military trucks through. I asked the cop directing traffic what was happening and his response was classic: "We are trying to make it safer for you." I thanked him on behalf of all mongers. He laughed at that and I began the beaver hunt.

I parked my car at the same lot and took with me my wallet sin credit cards, etc. All I had was some cash and my CDL. I left my car keys and cell phones in the car. I took only one key to unlock the car door when I returned and took my parking ticket to prove I had wheels in the lot. Having you parking ticket on you also helps prevent your car from leaving the lot unless the thief wants to pay the "lost ticket" price.

I was amazed to find that there were NO walkers. In three hours, I did not see even one walker in the Zona proper. I was half ready to settle for a BBBJTCIM and then get the hell out of there, but the thought of getting a firm young thing under the press for a glam slam would prove to be too hard to resist.

I settled on Lourdes de Vera Cruz who posted at the South corner of the West end of the Alley. She was 22, lovely figure, tight butt but not flaca. She is about 5'-4" from the the floor, B cups with huge nips, no babies, no stretch marks anywhere and very lovely young smooth skin. She had some meat on her bones and I could tell by pressing the flesh on the street that her body had not yet given up the firmness and suppleness that we all love. She quoted $20. for 20 minutes but I gave her the same treatment on the street that "Nancy" got earlier in the week. We booked into the Theresa, Room #2 and promptly got the administrative aspects of the deal out of the way.

I decided against a covered blow job. They just don't work for me and I asked her to start with a hand job for 5 minutes or so and that worked great. She watched as my dick transformed itself from a pitiful little noodle of a thing, to a large, stiff throbbing horn. She got on top and it was on. She had a tight pussy and a great grip. She also didn't want me to throw her thighs over my shoulder but I reminded her of the deal on the street and we changed positions. I love ramming my dick into the g-spot and I could see her responding nicely to that, and getting into it. It was a great session, she was a trooper and got well into it. She also got very wet so all that natural lube was nice. With about 2 minutes to spare, I filled the condom and stayed on top of her for about 2 minutes, slowly withdrawing my very satisfied old feller. She removed the condom and cleaned me up - a nice touch.

Back on the street, I went straight to the car. It was 12:30 and I have an early day. So I ended up making some rounds, seeing some pretty girls and banging one in a session that was well worth the time and money. I doubt very much that I would have gotten the same service at any of the clubs.

I'm thinking seriously about AlleyKat 107 tonight. Maybe after I finish up my work. We'll see.

Country John

Country John
02-09-09, 20:44
well, i fell victim again to my dick telling me that it has a life too, so after work tonight i nosed over to the zona norte again. this time i wanted something young to fuck. i wanted her to be no more than 20, flaca and plyable. i found exactly what i was looking for.

parked the car at 9:45 and decided to blow off ab and the alley, no sense tempting fate by being recognized by someone so i hovered around the top of the hill and stayed in the shadows until i could make out some candidates for further review. left the important stuff in the car as usual and took a stroll down the depressing revolution blvd. i'm thinking it must be a tough gig barking on the streets these days. not much traffic, mostly taxis. the rain had not yet started, there was a chill in the air and the cops were circulating at their now high rate, stopping anything that just doesn't look right. i did have another opportunity to chat with an officer of the law too. we talked for about 10 minutes. interesting conversation.

the taxi libres were jamming traffic all over the place. trolling for customers up and down constitution, through the alley etc. they are creating major traffic jam problems and the cops are pissed off. it's a tough time for these cabbies. i did peek up the alley from constituton, there were fewer girls out, but perhaps they were arriba banging you guys .

the cop i chatted with was about my age, good attitude, good english etc. he was towing some guys new pickup at the end of the alley. well, he wasn't actually towing it, they had it hooked up waiting for the owner to return. sheesh. i'm glad it wasn't my truck. holy smokes. he was parked facing north on constitution but the rear end was jutting out a bit into the intersection. poor fuck.

again, no walkers or at least none with the nerve to proposition in front of the cops who were everywhere.

i asked the cop straight up if it was dangerous for gringos in the zona now. he replied that for gringos, it's no more dangerous than before. they take anyone who does not have id or that they know has evil on their minds. he said as long as gringos behave they are safe there. he said they have more to worry about than gringos. he asked me if i noticed that there are fewer rateros on the streets and i replied that i did notice that. he said that most of the crime and drug problems are being cleaned up and that is there focus, not gringos. then i asked him about hte stories of gringos being ripped off by the cops and he said he is aware that it goes on. he said that gringos or anyone else who is victimized by the cops should complain, there is a lot of pressure on them (the cops) right now so many feel insecure about taking chances that they might be accused of doing something wrong. "this is not the time to be lookng for a job." he said.

earlier, as i walked down the hill on the west side a few girls caught my eye. they were on the west side. i decided to approach a pretty little thing posting about half way down the hill and found her willing to submit to the squeeze test. we made some small talk and she negotiated in pesod promising great sex and no surprises.

she was clearly a young thing, claiming 20 years but i think she was not yet 19. she had pink tights that presented a fabulous panocha and a clear definition of a youthful figure that fit the bill. brown hair with light brown accents, natural long nails, snaggle toothed but nothing bad and pretty coffee eyes. she said her name was rosa and she is from cabo. been in tj three years, doesn't like the place blah blah blah. i negotiated 40 minutes for 400 p and 100p for the room which had a decent sized bed. enough room to spread her out. arriba we go.

her butt was small but excellent, her waist was very small and skin young and silky and white. she was an a cup with perky titties, nicely rounded and hanging perfectly. a delight to behold when she was arriba.

i told her, while we were undressing that we have time for good sex so i don't want her to rush and she didn't. i even let her suck on the condom to get a feel for her, and when she sucked well, i let her continue on since it was as good as a massage job. after 3 or 4 minutes i had her mount arriba and fucked her hard for about 15 minutes. her pussy was tight and articulate, she knew how to move and had a decent grip which added to the enjoyment for me. no fake moans or groans and she never "got into it." even though it was somewhat mechanical, it was a good fuck. looking up at that young body, tight waist, milky thighs and sweet smile was exciting and helped the old feller out a lot.

we changed position a few times and towards then end, she was sensing that i was about to cum and while in mish with her legs arriba, she lowered he legs, closed them over my dick and pumped with a great grip. her flat stomach slapping my not so flat one. great torso/thigh contact with my nutsack cuddled between her young thighs. i blew my load with about 5 minutes to spare. a great sensation and a great climax. she waited until i withdrew and massaged by back while i was basking in the afterglow. good girl. no tip.

she waited for me to dress and we made conversation throughout the session. it really helps if you can talk to the girl on the street, while going arriba, during the presession, session and afterward. they loosen up a lot once they sense you are going to be a nice client and they are comfortable. this always means a better session and even though this one was a bit mechanical, she did fuck very well and the young girl body was a delight to toss. i would repeat with her. i think if i got her arriba again it would be a better session than tonights.

back up the hill i went, passing the cops, the hookers, the mongers, the taco stands with the smell of the carne and tortillas cooking away, the stench of the zona fading as i got to the parking lot and exited for the drive south on the via rapida towards los pinos/la mesa.

this was a good session. not even close to my sessions with my girlie however. compared to that, on a scale of 1 to 10, my girlie is a ten, this girl is about a 7.5.

country john

Efjayel
02-11-09, 10:42
Nice reports. Good to hear stories of you back in the game. But I guess this is only until the gf returns. Lol, enjoy it while you can.

Country John
02-11-09, 16:50
Nice reports. Good to hear stories of you back in the game. But I guess this is only until the gf returns. Lol, enjoy it while you can.

Yes, she is back tomorrow. I took last night and I'll take tonight to re-charge. She made it very clear that she expects a major hose job. Going sin condom after three weeks will be a nice change!

Coug X
02-12-09, 18:54
Baby Blue Massage?

Located in "Zona Centro", does anyone have any review they can give?

Tripod
02-12-09, 22:05
Hopefully they got the "royal" treatment from Tj police. lol.

Wonder what bar/hotel and what girls happened to be the victims.Update on this...one of prostitutes has died. Caused of death: suffocation. The two Navy guys are now in a TJ jail on murder charges.

Surfnk9
02-13-09, 13:54
Update on this...one of prostitutes has died. Caused of death: suffocation. The two Navy guys are now in a TJ jail on murder charges.

According to the news links posted here, the police have linked these two guys to a murder/strangulation a month ago. From what I’ve come across, one gal was choked, one gal was stabbed and a manager (towel boy?) was stabbed a couple weeks ago. The murder was in January, and according to the reports, there was video of the same guys in the hotel at the same time.
Nothing was posted about the murder last month. Ya gotta wonder, are these two guys pathological street girl strangling sickos; or are they a couple of stupid shit jarheads who got way outta control and are now getting a murder rap pinned on them?
Anybody got any info from the street? CJ?

Efjayel
02-13-09, 22:04
It's possible they didn't murder that other girl. It could just be a huge coincidence that they where there when the murder happened. They're military guys so they probably go to the zona every weekend and where there when that girl was suffocated. If that's the case, they're royally screwed cause that murder will be pinned on them. I figure that unless they find evidence proving their innocence, they're already concidered guilty.

Now that I think about it, isn't there cameras at every hotel registration? They would know if it was them that rented the room with the girl that was murdered. In fact they would have to be pretty stupid to return to the Zona if they previously murdered someone.

Sgt Perv
02-14-09, 00:34
Ya have to wonder, are these two guys pathological street girl strangling sickos; or are they a couple of stupid shit jarheads who got way outta control and are now getting a murder rap pinned on them? This is already a disgrace for the military without some non prior service person insulting the rest. There is a lot of terms used between the different services due to pride in their own.

They are family and bicker back and forth like families do. Just because I call my brother or sister something does not mean I am not offended if you, not a family member, do.

The term "Jarhead" refers to the high and tight haircut of the Marines. Their hair looking like the lid on a jar.

The accused are Navy.

If you have no military background, any but the following terms is insulting.

Army-Soldier

Navy-Seaman or Sailor

Marine-Marine

Air Force-Airman

My favorite was for someone (civilian) to call me a GI Joe.

GI meaning Government Issue and Joe meaning a insignificant person.

Most of the time they had no idea what they said but most times I was willing to show them, even though I was Government Issue, I was a significant person.

Ninguno Especial
02-14-09, 04:39
It's possible they didn't murder that other girl. It could just be a huge coincidence that they where there when the murder happened.

They were also ID'd by other chicas who were attacked by them at that La Fayette Hotle on Revolucion as well as an amiga from the same bar as the one murdered worked at. I really doubt there were other 2 on 1 video recordings that night of the deceased bar chica. She worked across the street at a bar. I know the hotel well. It is above the Café Especial.

I also know the hotel attendant who they stabbed with intention no doubt to kill.

In Mexico you are guilty until proving innocence. They don't have a hope and all the flowery words from parents, friends, former teachers, other sailors, etc. will fall on deaf ears until they are sentenced.

Chachi420
02-14-09, 19:25
I'm planning a trip to Tijuana in a couple of weeks. However there is not much information on the net regarding girl-friendly htels in Tijuana.

Can any of you lovely people point me in the right direction of a few GF hotels in the $30.$60 price range.

I will be in Tijuana for 5 nights, and want to have a couple of all-nighters with some sexy mexicaca honies.

What is the average take-out price for the night.

Can I take-out from Adalitas/HK, or am I restricted to the street girls?

Any information will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Wrong Info
02-15-09, 01:13
Got to say after many visits to Tijuana. It is on the absolute bottom of the list of any place to go in the world for me.

Here is what to expect:

Bars that will be hustling drinks. Girls with dull faces. And not much else

Only 1 bar I found there that was any fun. All action done on premise only, and being that there was only 1 good bar I won't mention the name as not to tempt any poor sucker into wastinghis time togo down there.

Street Girls that will promise anything but if you are not done in 5 minutes will start to get up and leave and keep your money even if they say it is for 40 minutes.

Vendors and street places that will do the same. Promise things and try and take your moeny without giving anything back.

DANGER. And Lots of it.

Wrong Info
02-15-09, 01:34
I plan to be in the Tijuana area the weekend of 2/14. I've heard many recent reports on the news that the Tijuana area is being hit hard by the drug wars in Mexico and it is not a safe place for tourists to go. What have you guys seen? Would it be safe if I was down in the Adalitas area on a Friday night? I generally stay until about 1 am and cab it back to the border. Should I cancel my plans or is it safe if I stick to the streets right around all the bars (adalitas, chicago club, etc)?

Thanks for the help.I doubt you will have any problems being a gringo in the tourist area - but would honestly recomend just staying in the San diego are and getting a craig ho, for the time and expense of going to the border you will probably pay less and have a much better time.

Friday night , you will most definatley pay less for drinks in San Diego, as the clock ticks the price of drinks go up in SD, and Friday and Satueday is the busy time.

Cobra Comander
02-15-09, 08:39
Got to say after many visits to Tijuana. It is on the absolute bottom of the list of any place to go in the world for me.

Here is what to expect:

Bars that will be hustling drinks. Girls with dull faces. And not much else

Only 1 bar I found there that was any fun. All action done on premise only, and being that there was only 1 good bar I won't mention the name as not to tempt any poor sucker into wastinghis time togo down there.

Street Girls that will promise anything but if you are not done in 5 minutes will start to get up and leave and keep your money even if they say it is for 40 minutes.

Vendors and street places that will do the same. Promise things and try and take your moeny without giving anything back.

DANGER. And Lots of it.

Judging from your comments It's pretty obvious you have not really spent any time in TJ at all.

Judging from all your other posts It's pretty obvious you hate just about everywhere else in the world as well.

Lastly, thanks for not mentioning the name of the bar as I'd hate to be tempted into going.

lol

CC


PS, Do you intend on posting any reports that contain actual tales of hooking up with women or just this stuff?

Two Dollars
02-15-09, 09:10
Only 1 bar I found there that was any fun. All action done on premise only, and being that there was only 1 good bar I won't mention the name as not to tempt any poor sucker into wastinghis time togo down there.

Street Girls that will promise anything but if you are not done in 5 minutes will start to get up and leave and keep your money even if they say it is for 40 minutes.Wow. If that's what your trips are like, there is something wrong with YOU. Maybe try showering before you go next time.

Wrong Info
02-15-09, 19:20
Sorry you don't like me posting what guys can expect wtihout a bunch of flattery for Bar Owners posting on here as real posters and writing fiction.

As for you saying I hate every where and "will I post acutall hookups" etc, apparantely you didn't take the time to read the post right under this one, where I explained to a guy safety issues, and a better option for getting laid in that area.

Good Luck Though.

FlapJacK
02-15-09, 21:16
Got to say after many visits to Tijuana. It is on the absolute bottom of the list of any place to go in the world for me.

Here is what to expect:

Bars that will be hustling drinks. Girls with dull faces. And not much else

Only 1 bar I found there that was any fun. All action done on premise only, and being that there was only 1 good bar I won't mention the name as not to tempt any poor sucker into wastinghis time togo down there.

Street Girls that will promise anything but if you are not done in 5 minutes will start to get up and leave and keep your money even if they say it is for 40 minutes.

Vendors and street places that will do the same. Promise things and try and take your moeny without giving anything back.

DANGER. And Lots of it.


Well there must be something wrong with you or maybe your poor attitude as the street girls are always very good with me and never rush me. It’s always the hotel guy knocking on the door after our time is up in 20-30 minutes that rushes us, but not the girls. As for the danger it’s not worse then any other big city.

Stoker Star
02-15-09, 21:52
I have never had anything but good "suc - cess" with the street girls.

must have just been a bad day

Country John
02-15-09, 23:23
Got to say after many visits to Tijuana. It is on the absolute bottom of the list of any place to go in the world for me.

Here is what to expect:

Bars that will be hustling drinks. Girls with dull faces. And not much else

Only 1 bar I found there that was any fun. All action done on premise only, and being that there was only 1 good bar I won't mention the name as not to tempt any poor sucker into wastinghis time togo down there.

Well, this is somewhat normal. The girls are there to make money, not friends. "Fun" is what you make it and in the Zona, it's a particular kind of fun we create.




Street Girls that will promise anything but if you are not done in 5 minutes will start to get up and leave and keep your money even if they say it is for 40 minutes.


Yes, some street girls will do that but negotiations are important on the street. What did you do to prepare? I had several EXCELLENT 40 minute sessions recently, all street girls. Staying objective for a minute, it sounds like you might not have checked your attitude at the border. These are human beings you are dealing with, not Happy Ending Machines.

Vendors and street places that will do the same. Promise things and try and take your moeny without giving anything back.

DANGER. And Lots of it.

Listen mate, it should come as no surprise that the Zona is the land of hustle and if you got hustled, it's because you let it happen. You can't go there expecting to be treated completely above board. Even yo would try to get something for nothing if the opportunity presented itself.

As for the danger, same thing. You really need to be careful anytime you are in the Zona and that's no secret. It's a well known fact and well written up here and elsewhere.

Experience counts especially if you learn from it. I hope you overcome your issues and are better prepared next time.

Be Safe and Be Nice,
Country John

Efjayel
02-16-09, 01:54
Got to say after many visits to Tijuana. It is on the absolute bottom of the list of any place to go in the world for me.

Here is what to expect:

Bars that will be hustling drinks. Girls with dull faces. And not much else

Only 1 bar I found there that was any fun. All action done on premise only, and being that there was only 1 good bar I won't mention the name as not to tempt any poor sucker into wastinghis time togo down there.

Street Girls that will promise anything but if you are not done in 5 minutes will start to get up and leave and keep your money even if they say it is for 40 minutes.

Vendors and street places that will do the same. Promise things and try and take your moeny without giving anything back.

DANGER. And Lots of it.


I enjoy your view of what most of us consider one of our favorite playgrounds. Truth be told, we've all at one point had some sort of bad experience in Tj. It's the way things work in an area infested with crime, drugs and legal prostitution. But if those bad experiences are all you've had, then you have not fully experienced the good things about the Zona. Maybe you're doing something wrong. There are better places for mongering where everything works the way you'd want it to. But that's not always Tj. If you don't find Tj to suit your style then by all means try someplace else. But don't go around trying to scare people off.

Adventur
02-16-09, 05:12
Got to say after many visits to Tijuana. It is on the absolute bottom of the list of any place to go in the world for me.

Bars that will be hustling drinks. Girls with dull faces. And not much else Street Girls that will promise anything but if you are not done in 5 minutes will start to get up and leave and keep your money even if they say it is for 40 minutes. DANGER. And Lots of it.Nice frank observations! But maybe you might have done the wrong things?

Some of us that frequent the place seem to like it and if you so abhorr it. There are things that perhaps you need to wonder about.

All over the world. For the price you pay in Tijuana

1. There are no girlfriend experiences the first time! If you expect this. Then you are a 18 yr old that expects.

2. There are no bars in the world with chicas to be laid that do not hustle you a bit for drinks.

3. In such places (again at these prices. We are not talking amsterdam or denmark) there are people that prey on people that walk and talk loose!

These guys that answered were kind people!

Who the f%k cares what you think about Tijuana! The question is will you be savvy enough to use Tijuana for what you need? !

Happy holidays

Country John
02-17-09, 04:40
Hey,

I'm looking at going to Tijuana for the first time at the end of March/beginning of April for a month or two. Previous experience. 11 months in Costa Rica and 3 months in Colombia.

If anyone is going to be travelling around the same time or could help me out with some info please contact me.


The very first thing you should do is read O'tooles guide, then spend an hour or two reading posts here in this forum consisting of trips reports etc. Everything you need to know is here. If you have a specific question I'd be happy to help.

Efjayel
02-17-09, 08:11
The very first thing you should do is read O'tooles guide, then spend an hour or two reading posts here in this forum consisting of trips reports etc. Everything you need to know is here. If you have a specific question I'd be happy to help.

Yes, listen to Country Juan. I did exactly what he mentioned when I first came to this site. Read O'tooles guide then literally spent days reading old posts. I learned so much that by the time I went to Tj, it was like I had been there before. Knew exactly where to go, what to do, what not to do and how to do it. I owe this site a great deal of grattitude from all the posters adding to their experiences.

There's a map of Tj and its red light district that I made a while back that has helped many newcomers. You should be able to find it if you look at some of the old posts. If you can't find it then let me know, I'll put it up again.

Good luck!

Member #4450
02-18-09, 00:56
I had several EXCELLENT 40 minute sessions recently, all street girls.
Be Safe and Be Nice,
Country John
Wait a minute!
Don't you have a Mexican Girly friend?
What are you doing messing around with street girls, LOL! :D
Those "EXCELLENT 40 minutes session I'm sure they cost more than $20+6

I personally don't expect very much from street girls, for the average fee you just get that "AVERAGE" if you add all the xtra charges there's not much of a deal at the end, I call the street girls a hole in the wall nothing else.
when I find a GFE it's a keeper, the rest are catch and release.
this reminds me I need to renew my Ca fishing license LOL!

DriedUp
02-18-09, 08:04
I live in downtown la.

Is there a van that takes you to the Tijuana border from here?

I heard there was, off Main I think.

Any ideas?

And supposedly cheaper than greyhound.

Thanks

Country John
02-18-09, 17:49
Wait a minute!
Don't you have a Mexican Girly friend?
What are you doing messing around with street girls, LOL! :D
Those "EXCELLENT 40 minutes session I'm sure they cost more than $20+6

I personally don't expect very much from street girls, for the average fee you just get that "AVERAGE" if you add all the xtra charges there's not much of a deal at the end, I call the street girls a hole in the wall nothing else.
when I find a GFE it's a keeper, the rest are catch and release.
this reminds me I need to renew my Ca fishing license LOL!

Well, what can I say. It was the sport fuckerman in me while the girlie was vacationing in Acapulco (for three weeks).

The sessions were $400p for 40 minutes plus 100p for the room. I've been screwing the same girl for almost 4 years now (and enjoying every stroke) but a re-calibration was in order, and I wanted something different to compare to what I have. May I say that what I got in the street is nothing like what I have at home, so I can still scratch that itch. The girls I took up were good, and it certainly helps to talk to them, preferably in Spanish.



Read O'tooles guide then literally spent days reading old posts. I learned so much that by the time I went to Tj, it was like I had been there before. Knew exactly where to go, what to do, what not to do and how to do it. I owe this site a great deal of grattitude from all the posters adding to their experiences.

There's a map of Tj and its red light district that I made a while back that has helped many newcomers. You should be able to find it if you look at some of the old posts. If you can't find it then let me know, I'll put it up again.

You should post the map again. In fact, Jackson should post it in the O'Tool thread, or give it a sticky thread here in the Tijuana section. It is a very helpful and accurate map of the area and it would be extremely valuable as an aid to mongers who visit the Zona. We are all about helping each other out here, so what do you say Jackson?

Country John

DJ FourMoney
02-18-09, 19:05
i live in downtown la.

is there a van that takes you to the tijuana border from here?

i heard there was, off main i think.

any ideas?

and supposedly cheaper than greyhound.

thanksgreyhound and amtrak i have found run about the same ($60 +/-). i believe chartered buses running out of city of industry for example maybe slightly less. running my "money model" its still cheaper to drive and park near the boarder.

the problem you run into is time.

for example to drive from sfv to the boarder takes about 90 min@70 mph avg. with very little traffic, which at this point and time can only be done when your running against the flow of traffic into los angeles.

with the bus it goes right down to the boarder, in about 2 hours you could be across the boarder and don't have to worry about parking. or you can take it across the boarder into the bus station in tj.

@2.40 a gallon for high test for which my car runs on, it cost about $20 total to run to and from the boarder.

high speed rail is the answer here, but that won't even be started on until later next year is what they are saying.

i would drive at the current fuel prices, that is if your car gets 30mpg+ on the freeway.

my .02

Member #4450
02-18-09, 21:59
Well, what can I say. It was the sport fuckerman in me while the girlie was vacationing in Acapulco (for three weeks).

The sessions were $400p for 40 minutes plus 100p for the room. I've been screwing the same girl for almost 4 years now (and enjoying every stroke) but a re-calibration was in order, and I wanted something different to compare to what I have. May I say that what I got in the street is nothing like what I have at home, so I can still scratch that itch. The girls I took up were good, and it certainly helps to talk to them, preferably in Spanish.
Country JohnLOL, but of course, you took them up to the room to practice on your Spanish! :D

Had you wonder what girlie did in Acapulco practicing her English?

Efjayel
02-18-09, 22:55
You should post the map again. In fact, Jackson should post it in the O'Tool thread, or give it a sticky thread here in the Tijuana section. It is a very helpful and accurate map of the area and it would be extremely valuable as an aid to mongers who visit the Zona. We are all about helping each other out here, so what do you say Jackson?

Country JohnI said many things to him to try and convince him to give me my own forum but everything has been in vain since he never replies. But I guess that would be a better idea to put it in O'tooles guide thread. You seem to have some influence at these boards. Maybe you can convince him for me.

As for a bus ride to Tj I heard someone mention the Intercalifas bus being cheap and a non stop ride. There is also the Tres Estrellas Bus from the bus depot in Santa Ana and Downtown L.A. Not sure if that one is non stop though but it supposedly runs every hour.

DriedUp
02-19-09, 09:14
dj4money,

I have no car.

And once I was coming back from Tijuana to la, the greyhound bus was super fast. Sped down here.

I just wanted something cheap.

I heard there were van pools that load up and go.

15 or even 10 one way.

Member #4450
02-19-09, 22:09
dj4money,
I heard there were van pools that load up and go.
15 or even 10 one way.
Those are CBP One way only!

Country John
02-20-09, 00:32
LOL, but of course, you took them up to the room to practice on your Spanish! :D

Had you wonder what girlie did in Acapulco practicing her English?

That's absolutely correct. When you factor in all the positions, moves, etc., that's a lot to "brush up" on.

As for the girlie and her English, well.....she doesn't play golf!


I said many things to him to try and convince him to give me my own forum but everything has been in vain since he never replies. But I guess that would be a better idea to put it in O'tooles guide thread. You seem to have some influence at these boards. Maybe you can convince him for me.

I've suggested to Jackson that he include the map, but no response. It's Jackson's board, he makes the rules and he decides what to do. There are other boards that would appreciate the work you put in and perhaps posting it there would be a good idea. Good luck.

Country John

Ruffianomega
02-20-09, 01:55
i plan to make a trip to tijuana towards the end of the month, for my birthday bash, i have been to nogi quite a few times and also rocky point, but never tijuana. i am looking for some advise on the best place to stay thats close to the strip clubs and street girls but a nice place. how far is the motel premier from the hot spots? i am also looking for some advise on possible escorts and the best place to get a variety of hotties.

also whats the best option to cross over, i'm driving from az.

i am looking to have a very memorial time in tijuana and it seems you & efjayel are the people to talk to. i was reading all the previous blogs and there is so much info rep001tered around

thanks for any advise you can give.- i

Efjayel
02-20-09, 08:35
Hey Roofie, nice to hear you're taking the plunge.

Here's the map I mentioned about previously.

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/1020/tj2te4.gif


I have the hotels that are on the tourist strip marked. I believe most of those are the nicer hotels. Pueblo Amigo which is outside the strip is from what I heard, one of the nicest hotels and its right next to Luxor club.

For hotties just visit the bars in the Zona Norte as pointed out in my map. You can also try some of the street girls. Their locations are also pointed out in my map. I don't know about escorts in Tj. I never tried them. In the Zona norte, there are so many women, bars, street girls, massage parlors and other options that I have no reason to try an escort.

If you're planning to drive into Tj and you are coming from Arizona then the Otay Mesa point of entry would perhaps be best. I'll let CJ fill you in on how to reach that one. But if you're only going to hang around Tj and its red light district, then I would advice not driving in. It's possible to get stopped by cops all the time and State side insurance doesn't cover any damages or theft of the car if it happens in Mexico. A hotel on the strip is like a few blocks away walking distance from the Zona anyways. You can park your car on the border from the San Ysidro point of entry.

Try reading O'tooles guide. Lot's of info there.

Smuler
02-21-09, 01:24
Thanks for the effort in doing this map.

I have been to TJ about 10 times, and it's great to see what the walk looks like from above.

Best Regards

Smuler

Member #4450
02-21-09, 03:18
other options that I have no reason to try an escort.
Maybe you want to reconsider about the escort!
I've been checking some of the escorts websites and you can get great deals on some cute girls, the trick is getting a TLN and is very cheap I mean better than making a deal with any SG or a club girl, check it out!
there's always GFE and some girls will offer bbbj,cim on the menu, I don't know if it's all a scam or it's the real deal?
I think the TJ escorts are run by some American dude living in TJ or in San Diego.

Now we know for sure Country John business in TJ LOL!

PS: Btw great job on the map and funny too!

Phordphan
02-21-09, 03:43
I needed to make a TJ run. Salma had been after me to come visit her, but work’s been pretty busy. I was able to clear my schedule for Thursday, so Thursday it was.

I left 30 minutes behind schedule, and it just got worse. The 5 had some gravel spill, or something, and had a major delay. Sticky traffic outside of San Diego. Arrgh. I’d anticipated being in the zona by 11, giving me 2 hours with Ms. S before her shift, and me plenty of time after that for a recharge and another round with a SG. Alas, the best laid plans… :(

Got parked at 11:45. Ah, screw it, I’m way late anyway, I’ll save cab fare and walk. It was very nice and sunny. The border casa de cambio was offering 13.7:1. Thought I could do better. I hoofed it to Articulo 123, where they were all offering 13.1:1. NFW! Then, at the one near the cop shop, the holy grail. 14.4:1. Whee! Changed $100.

Ms. S was waiting on the corner of NH and Coahuila, per our arrangement. Unfortunately, we no longer have 2 hours. So, we opt to just go to HK, have a quick drink, and arriba for an hour at Cascadas. Oh, well.

She’s re-dyed her hair, lost a couple more pounds, and is looking pretty good. Not the most beautiful chica in HK, but one of the best attitudes. We sit and get one beer and one ficha beer. Total damage, 114 pesos. Tipped the guy 10 pesos. He didn’t look thrilled. Fuck him. This exchange rate thing is getting better all the time!

After catching up and getting several ears-full (earfuls?) of this, that and the other, it was time to go. Paid 290 pesos for an hour, just over $20. About a $5 savings from last time, when I paid in dollars.

In the room, as usual, it’s full-on GFE. Bareback everything was on the menu. She’s extremely into DATY, so who am I to argue? :) As my time was limited anyway, and I’m waaaay late as it is, I know I’m not going to have time to pop, recharge and pop again before I have to head back home. So, despite her insistence, I hold back and don’t nut. She’s insistent. I finally claim I did. She doesn’t believe me, and makes me swear on the Virgin, or some such. Suffice it to say that a great time was had by all. I drop her off in HK at around 2:15 and head out. Gave her 700 pesos.

Just for fun, I wander through CC. It’s now about 2:30. There is NOBODY there, at all, except 3 pissed-off looking meseras in schoolgirl uniforms. Two looked doable, except for their sour expressions and total lack of interest in a potential customer. Even the bar looked closed.

I walked out, and cruised the alley for a bit. Then, popped into Miami for a quick beer. I finished up the first of a 2x1 ($3), but knew if I finished the second, I’d be pissing every 10 minutes all the way home. So, I gave the second one to a Mexican guy sitting next to me. He thanked me and I hit the head, then out.

Cruised the streets a bit more. Stopped to talk to Gabriella (?) in the alley, mid-way, north side. Fairly attractive, interesting braces. Said she was early thirties. We chat, she says $20. I tell her I only have pesos. She comes back with 200p. OK, now we’re getting somewhere. I ask how long. 20 minutes. Hmm, I want 30 minutes. OK, 400p. WTF? Now come the upsells. I tell her no, she counters with 300p. I only have about 300p left, so that’s not going to work. I don’t like upsells and have always had bad to so-so experience with the upsellers, so I walk.

I stop and chat with Lety, near Rio Nilo, on Con. She’s the one who looked daggers on my last trip when I took up Araceli. I swear I saw Araceli on my way into the zona, but she was nowhere to be found now. Anyway, Ms. L started at $20. No way, not for her. Up close she was worse than expected, and looked as if she had a cold, or something. Move on.

Up around Taurino, spotted a cute, very fair skinned beauty. I kept going down to NH. A tallish, heavy chica stopped me. Very friendly, good Ingles. She pointed out that she had great tits, a great ass and a great pussy (her words). All this for only $10. Interesting, but a little too large for me. Pass. Back towards Taurino, but the fair-skinned cutie was gone.

I’ve decided that it’s just not going to happen, it’s now past 3 and I need to get to the border. So, I start walking down Art. 123. Near Fracaso stands some granny. Tiny, slim, nice hair, a face like 5 miles of bad road. :eek: I smile and nod and walk past. Then, near Dragon Rojo, I stop and look around. I suddenly get this extremely perverse idea. Another poster, on another board, a long time ago, told of his experience with, as he called it, “granny sex.” Suddenly, two little voices started yelling into each of my ears. One said “Leave, walk away, go home.” The other said “Go on, do it!” Then the first said “Eeeeew! What are you thinking??” Then the other said “C’mon, what do you have to lose? She’ll be grateful and it’ll be a great story.”

Anyway, she starts walking toward me. As she passes, I turn and say Hola. We schmooze for a minute. I *think* her name is Gloria, but I really don’t remember. She invites me to go to the room. How much? $10. Time? Media hora, mas o menos. She assured me, several times, she was really good at sucky. OK. What the hell. For a 10-spot, it’ll be worth it just to have the story to tell.

We pop into the hobbit-hole hotel. 50 pesos. The place, although really basic, is actually fairly clean. Toilets are clean, although not in the rooms. Bedspread seems clean and doesn’t crackle when you sit on it.

Anyway, she strips and I’m very surprised. From the neck up she looks well over 60. Smoking will do that to you, especially women. From the neck down, at least 20 years younger. Fair skin, non-pancake natural A cups, nice nips, flat belly.

She lays down, wipes off the ton of lipstick she’s wearing, and proceeds with a BBBJ. Holy crap. This lady knows her way around a penis. I’d have to rank this BJ in my top 5. She’s very good. Then she wants to put on the condom. I’m not ready yet, and pull her close for a little stroking. Very smooth skin, pleasant to the touch. After a few minutes she pops up and resumes the BJ. Nice. Then, she goes for the condom. Again, I stop her. I want to play with the twins a bit. So, no problem. Some fondling, some sucking, nibbling, etc. She appears to be enjoying it. On a lark, I had to give the old panocha the sniff test. So, I worked my way south and made a quick pass. Another shocker. She had one of the freshest panochas in the zona, and I’m not kidding. Soft, thin patch of natural bush, absolutely no odor. Who knew? So, I stuck my tongue in to see what would happen. She liked it, although she appeared a bit nervous. I kept at it and she started moaning and gently thrusting her hips. It just got better. You can tell they’re into it when they adjust your head and their pussy for better feeling. After maybe 10 minutes she really starts moaning and thrusting, then has a huge O.

I stop, clean up, and she resumes her wonderful BBBJ. Then, when I’m ready, she puts on the condom and pulls me into mish. Final surprise, the panocha is nice and tight. She claims 4 kids, but it’s better than lots of zona putas with fewer kids and miles. This is going great, and after several minutes I can’t hold back and fill up the condom. She’s very attentive, pulls it off after I pull out, and cleans me up a bit. (BTW, I took some hand sanitizer this trip. Good call).

We dress, and she tells me all about her sister who was hurt and in the hospital. The TJ equivalent of the sick buffalo, I suppose. She keeps showing me her hands, which are still shaking. She tells me that she gets that way after a huge orgasm. Anyway, I pull out all my change (just under 50 pesos), a 100 peso note and a dollar bill. I give it to her, she counts it, and says OK. But my soft head gets in the way, and I fork over another 50 pesos. It’s still about 200 pesos, which was my budget, so…

If you’re in Fracaso some afternoon, can get past the muy feo cara and the ciggy breath, and like BJs, you may be in for a treat.

Got to the border and in line at 4:15, onto the freeway at 4:30. Suck-ass traffic, they’re stopping northbound traffic at the checkpoint, etc. Home at 6:45.

The cool thing is that, except for gas and parking, the whole thing set me back less than a Benjamin. How cool is that? The exchange rate is really in our favor now...

Efjayel
02-21-09, 14:06
Awesome story as always fjord. And really cool of you to take one for the team on (lol)granny sex. Glad to hear you liked it.

For some odd reason I've been noticing older women too. Not granny old, but milf type and the like. Can't help but wonder what kind of tricks they've learned in their age, but try to hide it behind that innocent appearance.

btw, thanks for your comments on my map guys. Makes all my effort worthwhile. Also, what escort sites do you recommend?

Sgt Perv
02-21-09, 21:26
There is probably more granny sex going on then most think.

If the chica spits out a child at 15 y/o and her child does the same then a chica over 30 years old could be a grandma.

It would seem me that there is a good chance that Phordphan either did a great grandma or a great great grandma.

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

I am sure he gave her something to go right home and tell her great great grand children about.

Sgt Perv
02-21-09, 21:45
A sportsman's double is having a mother daughter three way.

I am wondering if it would be possible in Tijuana to get a sportsman triple or even a quad? Anybody do the Tijuana 5 way?

18 y/o, 33y/o, 48y/o and 61y/o.

What order would you take them in and how?

Have 61 give you a BJ while daty with the 18, then do 33 mish and finish doggie with the 48.

I am thinking the best would be to have 61 sit on your face while 33 and 48 gives you a BJ/nut licking and the 18 gives a nice rim job.

Wooterz
02-22-09, 10:17
First and foremost, I would like to introduce myself. I've lurked on these boards for roughly 4 years now, however, I don't think I've ever posted before. I'm 21 years old and currently living in Southern California. I'm your average college student, I'm not overweight, overly hairy, or overly gross in anyway. I've never had sex with a prostitute before, but I'm not a virgin either. Anyways, I decided to take my first trip down to Tijuana and I wanted to provide you guys with an extensive report. I really feel obligated to contribute to such an informative and helpful website as I have been helped greatly from the information contained in the posts of others. This report is lengthy and for that I apologize, I just want to be as helpful as possible to help out all the newbies such as myself.

I left my house at around 3:00 PM, Saturday, February 21st, 2009, and took the roughly 85 mile drive to the border. Exited "Camino de la Plaza. Last USA Exit and Parking. " Followed the off ramp, made the left turn and passed over the little bridge, made my first right at the light by the Jack In The Box, and finally pulled into the $5 parking lot adjacent from the aforementioned food establishment. As I exited my car, I had the following things in my jeans: car keys, driver's license, birth certificate, $200, and a three pack of trojans. Nothing else. No cellphone, no wallet, no debit/credit cards. I walked from the parking lot past the Jack In The Box, past the trolley station, and towards the brown building to my left. I was a little confused on where exactly I was supposed to go but I remembered the "Brockton O'Tools Tijuana Guide Faq" instructing me to just "follow the crowd. " I walked the little spiral staircase thing, over the bridge to the other side of the freeway, and down the staircase. As I approached the "first turnstyle" I was VERY nervous. I knew there was no turning back. I kept it cool and manuevered past the fast-moving steel bars that seperated me from "safety" to "danger. " The steel bar I inadvertantly touched had sticky stuff on it which ended up on my fingers. Damn, I was now in foreign territory. I kept pace with the crowd and noticed roughly 4-5 troops standing ahead to my right. From afar, I mistook them for US Marines. As I got closer, I saw the word "MARINA" or something printed on their black vests. Kept my head down and kept moving. I approached the "fork in the road" and continued straight for the "second turnstyle. " Continued straight, passing a guy handing out flyers and was asked by a taxi driver if I needed a ride. I agreed and off we went. Told the man I wanted to go to "Adelitas" and we were on our way. It still had not struck me that I was in Tijuana until I saw a pickup truck with a bunch of dogs standing up in the cab as it clunked down the street. Yep, Tijuana. The cab guy got me to Adelitas in one piece, I payed him $7 to be courteous, and walked in.

Although it felt like just another strip club like the ones here in the states, I was still a nervous wreck. I headed over to the bar and ordered a bottle water. Gave the bartender the $1. 50 he gave me in change as a tip and sat down at one of the booths further down by the TVs. I scooped out the area. The girls were pretty good looking, about what I expected. For some reason, I pictured Adelitas a lot darker and a lot bigger. In any case, it was a fairly good sized place with nice lighting. I was approached by an older chick, probably in her 30s, by the name of "Marelea" or something like that. She had a yellow skin-tight dress on. Although she seemed like a great person, she definitely wasn't what I was looking for and I politely turned down her offers for drinks and sex. I felt a little out of place and still very nervous and I knew I needed something to take the edge off. I ordered a Corona and quickly downed it. As I walked around and scooped out the ladies again, a cute slender blonde with "Caucasian" features caught my eye. I was still pretty nervous and played it cool. More on her later.

I ordered another Corona and again eyed up the prospects. I was approached by a tall slender latina with a great body and a tattoo on her back. I can't remember her name. She had highlights in her hair. She was pretty, but again, not what I was looking for. I declined her offers and sat back and relaxed. Eyeing up the ladies for another 20-30 minutes, I couldn't stop thinking about the Caucasin-looking blonde I had seen earlier. I decided I wanted to go up with her but low and behold, she was no where in sight. Pussy and all, just picked up and vacated. I sat around and waited for about 30-45 minutes and didn't see her. At this point, with the second beer kicking in just a tad, I was a little annoyed. A cute latina by the name of Claudia apporached me and asked if I wanted to buy her a beer. I agreed as she seemed very frienldy, and she began "caressing me down. " She told me right off the bat $50 for sex and I was seriously contemplating it, but I still had the cute blonde on the back of my mind. I told her maybe later and she left. I walked around and noticed a cute, slender latina wearing an incredibly tiny little "skirt" that revealed more than half her ass. I was just about to approach her when from the corner of my eye, I saw the blonde I was, at this point, fiending for. I changed plans and immediately approached the blonde and asked her what her name was. She told me it was "Lucy" or "Lucelle" or something along those lines. She had a cute face with a little mole on her chin, nice body, and nice eyes. I told her I wanted sex and off we went. I was so focused on having sex with her that I didn't even negotiate ANYTHING. We left Adelitas and walked next door to the hotel. As we climbed the stairs, I asked her how old she was. She told me she was 19. As we approached the counter, all I could think about was banging her. I was so dead set on fucking this chick that I put $60 on the counter as we waited for the hotel room. Like an idiot, I quickly realized what I had done and put the money back in my pocket. I gave the guy $2 tip and we headed over to the room and she shut the door.

For anyone wondering, the room is about 250-300 square feet with a decent sized bed dominating most of the room. There's a little sink and a tiny bathroom to the right as you enter. It seemed fairly clean and maintained. She put her things on the little table next to the bed and we undressed. I whipped out a trojan but she told me she wanted to use the hotel supplied one, which was also a trojan but was a different type (black wrapper instead of the teal blue one I had). From the conversation, she wanted to use the supplied one because it was better for her during the BJ. I understood. I laid on the bed and the cover went on. She sat on the bed and gave me one of the WORST blowjobs I've ever had. Actually scratch that, I've never had a covered blowjob or a blowjob for that matter, but it sucked. The best way I can describe it is that it was like someone was sort of touching my penis with something but not really. Bad explanation, I know, that's the whole point. It was just bad. I couldn't feel anything. Anyways, after about 1-2 minutes, she applied the lube and got on top. As I entered her, I knew exactly what I was in for. I recalled her telling me she was 19, but in all honesty, had I closed my eyes, I wouldn't have been surprised if I was fucking a 50 year old. Her name was quite fitting, Lucy was fairly "loosey. " It was loose, but then again the only girls I've ever had sex with were high school girls and such, who obviously have a lot less miles under their belt. I fully understand I was banging a professional sex worker so I really can't complain in this regard. Anyways, after roughly 5-6 minutes of cowgirl, we switched over to doggie. As I hit it from behind, I quickly became acquainted with a musky, cheesy odor. It could have just been the stink that I'm not used to, but it was definitely a turn-off. She also had her fingers holding my dick/her pussy from behind the entire time. I'm not exactly sure why she did this, but I do recall some of you guys talking about this. The condom was on fine, didn't have any problems with it slipping or anything in that regard. I wasn't missing and targeting her butthole, so in reality, I think she was doing to be safe? Anyways, I banged her doggie for 5-6 minutes and decided to switch to missionary. I tried to rub her clit as I pounded away but she quickly brushed my hand aside. Looking back on the situation, I'm not 100% sure but I think Lucy might have had a yeast infection. I've never banged a girl with a yeast infection, so I'm just guessing. Anyways, I was a little disappointed and took out all my aggression on her, pounding her as hard as I could. After about 7-8 minutes of kneeling down to fuck her missionary on the short ass bed, I was exhausted. However, for the life of me, I couldn't cum. She wasn't helping either with her little remarks such as, "you finish yet? " I went back to doggie for another few minutes and I just couldn't see it happening. At this point, Lucy was still complaining, claiming that I needed to finish or "30 minutes more" as she put it. This was certainly not helping my case. I lay back on the bed, closed my eyes, and let her ride me again in cowgirl. After several minutes, I just told her to get off and she gave me a crappy handjob. Finally, with eyes closed, I forced myself to cum. She got up, took the towel, and rubbed a little water on her snatch. I washed my hands, gave her the $60 and the broad had the audacity to ask for a tip. I gave her a dollar and she complained that she wanted the five dollar bill in my pocket. No dice. I walked downstairs and hitched a cab. The guy took me on an alternate route that was better for me considering I parked on the US side. I paid him $7 and walked towards salvation. I crossed the checkpoint without any problems, walked to my car, and drove home.

Reminiscing on experience, I have mixed emotions. I was both disappointed and satisfied. Driving home, I vowed to never return to Tijuana again, even if someone paid me. However, as I sit and write this, I know I would definitely return. I would rate Lucy an 8/10 on looks and a 3/10 on service. To anyone who has not gone before, Country John's explanation of Adelitas is the best analogy one can use to describe it. It is a fuck factory, a "McDonalds" of sex. Is this a bad thing? It depends on what you are looking for. I think my biggest problem is that I don't know exactly what it is that I'm looking for. I'm not looking for relationships and up until tonight, I could really careless about a "girlfriend experience. " However, what I got was less than a "pornstar experience. " I understand this is mainly my fault, the hotter the chick, the less she can do and still get away with. She could have not been feeling me, or just not been in the mood, or whatever. The saying goes that no one truly knows what is in store for them until they experience it. This is definitely true. I pictured something different but in all honesty, it know makes a lot of sense. My experience makes perfect sense now that I experienced it. That might sound weird but that's the best way I can describe it. It is what it is. Adelitas is exactly that. I've never had issues when it comes to completion, actually, quite the contrary, so I am still a little puzzled as to why it happened to me. I think it was a combination of factors. For one, I was in an uncomfortable environment. I was nervous. I did drink two beers which had me buzzed just enough for me to feel it. Lucy's "loosey" pussy that didn't smell particularly great. Possibly other reasons as well.

In conclusion, I would like to thank all of you who have posted on here for the past few years as your insight and input helped me greatly. This is one of the most helpful forums I've ever been to. I hope you enjoyed my TR, keep up the good work, and take care.

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Phordphan
02-22-09, 22:19
Thanx for the TR, Wooterz.

Let me just comment on a couple of things.

Don't tip everybody in sight. It just makes you look bad, like a gringo who throws money around. You won't get any additional respect. Don't tip the yellow taxi guy. $5 is the fee. If he does something extraordinary in some way, $1 extra is fine. Same with Taxi Libres. Pay the meter, round up to the next 10 pesos, and an extra $1 if good service.

Never tip the hotel guy, unless you're asking for extra time.

I suspect you coudn't find Loosey because she was upstairs with another client.

Unfortunately, Mexican zona girls in general have marginal personal hygiene. The ones in AB seem to me to be worse than most. Too many shower once before work, then not again until the next day. Ick. Hence, your stinky pussy.

The loose pussy is, unfortunately, a hazard. We've all experienced it, and I know of no way to check for it beforehand.

Sometimes the girl likes the house condom for BJ, but if you bring your own, and like your own, insist she use it for sex.

Except for one girl, who's still on vacation from Christmas and who e-mails me occasionally telling me what she's gonna do to me when she gets back, I have had very marginal experience in AB. Very hit-or-miss. Often too commercial. As CJ said, it's a gringo-centric fuck factory. I think you'll be happier at Hong Kong, if you like strip clubs, or Chicago for more GFE-type girls (but you'll need to go late).

Good luck on your next trip, and don't forget to post.

Efjayel
02-23-09, 00:23
Nice TR Wootz.

My first experience at AB was exactly the same. Afterwards, I kept thinking, "This is what all the other guys are talking about?" They so high price AB and it's women but my experience here sucked. After every trip I tell myself I'm no longer going back to TJ but yet I find myself doing so. It's not so much about the sex with the girls, it's also about meeting them and having fun before you ever go upstairs. I'm a guy and I enjoy sex as much as the next perv.. I mean guy, but to be honest I get a bigger kick from just hanging out at the bars and spending time with some of my favorite girls or meeting new girls and just talking, drinking and having fun. The sex is just a plus.

It's too bad that the first girl you tried was only looking at her watch and the bad smell that she had. I also encountered a girl with a bad smell. It was a horrible experience to say the least. The stink got stuck on me and I couldn't get rid of it no matter how much I washed. I think this girl did have a yeast infection. Some of the smell was also on my hands which made eating finger food unpleasant. Ruined the tacos that I loved so much. lol.

My only advice to you for your next trip is to get to know the girl before you go upstairs. I get the best service from repeat service. Once you get to know a girl and see her more than once you become comfortable with her. And her with you. She should stop treating you as just another john. It removes all that awkwardness of not being able to finish as well. Also try a 6 or 7 next time you go. Some of the lesser girls give way better service.

Efjayel
02-23-09, 00:25
A sportsman's double is having a mother daughter three way.

I am wondering if it would be possible in Tijuana to get a sportsman triple or even a quad? Anybody do the Tijuana 5 way?

18 y/o, 33y/o, 48y/o and 61y/o.

What order would you take them in and how?

Have 61 give you a BJ while daty with the 18, then do 33 mish and finish doggie with the 48.

I am thinking the best would be to have 61 sit on your face while 33 and 48 gives you a BJ/nut licking and the 18 gives a nice rim job.


Nice fantasy but when I can completely please just one girl, I'll try for two.

Wooterz
02-23-09, 01:16
Thank you guys so much for the additional advice, I'll make sure to keep that in mind the next time I go. Considering the girls only take one shower before they arrive, the idea is to get them when they first arrive? If this is the case, is there some sort of "schedule" these girls follow or is it sort of a free-flowing system where they arrive whenever they please? The next time I go, I will definitely do things differently. I will definitely get to know the girl before I head upstairs, that was one of the things I forgot to do as I was thinking with my little head instead of the big head. One last question, do you guys know of any girls that I should avoid?

Thanks in advance

Sgt Perv
02-23-09, 02:05
The stink got stuck on me and I couldn't get rid of it no matter how much I washed. I think this girl did have a yeast infection. Some of the smell was also on my hands which made eating finger food unpleasant. Ruined the tacos that I loved so much. lol. I see why you get sick after a visit to TJ. Hand Sanitizer would help


Nice fantasy but when I can completely please just one girl, I'll try for two.

Sgt Perv
02-23-09, 02:15
The stink got stuck on me and I couldn't get rid of it no matter how much I washed. I think this girl did have a yeast infection. Some of the smell was also on my hands which made eating finger food unpleasant. Ruined the tacos that I loved so much. lol. I see why you get sick after a visit to TJ. Hand Sanitizer would help


Nice fantasy but when I can completely please just one girl, I'll try for two."Completely please" a girl? Completely please? Completely?
Now there is a great fantasy!

Life is short so you better try one of my fantasies before you kill yourself trying (like so many men) to do yours.

Mine has a possibility of being a reality.

Member #4450
02-23-09, 06:31
Nice fantasy

I'll pass on the 61 y/o LOL!

Efjayel
02-23-09, 11:57
I didn't mean it was a good fantasy just a really far out one. I really doubt you'd ever get a mom and daughter fantasy and even less so a great-grandma, grandma, mom and daughter fantasy. You'd see hell freeze over and have pigs flying through it before that ever happens.

Yeah a hand sanitizer would be good. I've taken a pocket size alcohol spray hand sanitizer before but I keep forgetting to use them. But I still wash my hands all the time. I don't really care for the hand sanitizers though cause even though it kills germs, it doesn't remove the dirt. And I hate having dirty hands.



Thank you guys so much for the additional advice, I'll make sure to keep that in mind the next time I go. Considering the girls only take one shower before they arrive, the idea is to get them when they first arrive? If this is the case, is there some sort of "schedule" these girls follow or is it sort of a free-flowing system where they arrive whenever they please? The next time I go, I will definitely do things differently. I will definitely get to know the girl before I head upstairs, that was one of the things I forgot to do as I was thinking with my little head instead of the big head. One last question, do you guys know of any girls that I should avoid?

Thanks in advance

Some girls take only one shower so yeah, being their first of the shift is a good idea. Not all girls are like this though. I've known some girls that shower after every session. The hygienic girls are definitely the ones to put on your favorites list. One of my favorites would always try to convince me that I was her first that day as an incentive to go up with her.

I also did the same on my first trip. I quickly went upstairs with the first girl that caught my eye and ended up having a so-so experience. Now I always try to get to know them first. After a bit of conversation, you get a good feel of what they will be like upstairs.

There are girls to avoid and names have been mentioned in the past. But unless you take notes then it's simply a matter of experience. After a few trips you will know how to spot the bad ones and the good ones. But that doesn't mean once you are an expert you won't have any more bad experiences. It's all part of the game in this hobby that we call mongering. But in the end it's all about fun. So just keep your wits about you and take the bad experiences as learning experiences and the good as the highlights of this game.

Have Fun and enjoy it.

Sgt Perv
02-23-09, 12:38
Although I have had the sportsman double before, I believe the part with the great grandma was stretching the imagination. LOL

So from now on, I will limit my search to daughter, mom and granny.

OK, I lied, I will limit my search to two daughters, mom and granny.

Phordphan
02-23-09, 18:39
Thank you guys so much for the additional advice, I'll make sure to keep that in mind the next time I go. Considering the girls only take one shower before they arrive, the idea is to get them when they first arrive? If this is the case, is there some sort of "schedule" these girls follow or is it sort of a free-flowing system where they arrive whenever they please? The next time I go, I will definitely do things differently. I will definitely get to know the girl before I head upstairs, that was one of the things I forgot to do as I was thinking with my little head instead of the big head. One last question, do you guys know of any girls that I should avoid?

Thanks in advance

Schedules at the larger bars tend to run along 8-hour lines. So, for the most part, shifts begin around noon-ish through 8-ish, and from 8-ish to around 4am-ish. There will be variations, but this is a good rule of thumb.

AB is always a sausage fest, IMHO, and the hottest girls seem to get an inordinate amount of action. Setting your sights a bit lower will often result in a "cleaner" girl and a better experience.

Avoid the tall ones with an Adam's apple!! :)

Country John
02-23-09, 20:13
Very good TR. It was real and conveyed a real sense of what Adelita's is all about. I'd like to add my dos pesos, so take a minute and read on if you dare.

First, you did everything right. Everything was going well until she starterd in on your first covered blowjob. You began to lose interest at that point, and so did Mr. Happy.

Second, you were not ready to perform what I will call "industrial sex." One of my favorite girls calls it "sex without love." It's the performance of sexual activity for the sole purpose of getting your rocks off, nothing more. It's almost like you were waiting for something to happen that you were not aware of yet. Then you became disappointed by what WAS happening.

In the "industrial sex" hobby of mongering, the MONGER controls the action and tells the girl what he wants and how he wants it.

Third: You did not negotiate downstairs. You took the girl up based only on her appearance and the fantasy that was playing out in your mind as you climbed the stairway to heaven. Years ago I wrote about doing a "squeeze test" downstairs before going arriba. Tell her what you want. Tell her exactly what you expect. It doesn't mean you'll get it of course, but you'll know by learning from experience how the girl will play out in the room by how she plays out in the bar. You should have taken Claudia if you were not interested in negotiating. She will fuck your brains out.

Fourth: you took probably one of the youngest and most inexperienced girls in the club and expected her to perform like a pornstar. Wrongo bongo. This same girl might brighten up for you after you repeat several times, but you have to ask yourself if it is worth the investment. You MUST do the squeeze test. Learn to do it.

Fifth: You visited the most industrialized fuck factory in Baja California. Every girl and every guy in the club knows EXACTLY why you are there, and it ain't to watch TV. If you are not ready to hand your money over to a girl for sex right now, then move on. They don't care because they don't have to. That's the simple truth.

So that's enough about that. Look, you need to relax. You were a bit up-tight on your first visit, not knowing what to expect for yourself. Look at what parts of the posts you read that were true etc. Plan another visit but this time RELAX. When you lock eyes on a girl, sit her down, buy her an expensive beer and tell her EXACTLY what you want HER to do to YOU upstairs. Make certain you got through to her. Then ask her if she's one of those girls who changes her mind when she gets into the room.

You were also very smart to leave your valuables behind and take only the essentials with you. I was going to wish better luck for you next time out, but instead I will advise you to "bone up" on your procedures in order to make your experience more rewarding.

Thanks for posting and thanks for being honest.

Country John

DJ FourMoney
02-24-09, 00:12
What is the groups recommendations for which bars and strip clubs I should focus on?

GFE or PSE is important, I'm never been high on blow-jobs. Either you want to do it because you enjoy it or don't bother and that means no CBJ, always BBBJ for me or nothing at all.

Also what are my chances of requesting anal and getting it?

I don't envision myself making the same mistakes, I have been to TJ before (1), also I have mongered before (2), the only difference English isn't as widely spoken as it is in Germany.

I had such high quality service in Germany that I am concerned horrible service or smelly women would kill any desire to return to Mexico. I know what a 30 Euro industrial "fuck" looks like as well and that sounds like Wooterz AB adventure. Only difference being he expected more, I got just what I expected for 30 Euro...

or

Should I just focus on Escorts?

I don't know, its roughly the same as I paid in Europe, but I was hoping I could send much less. At the time I paid 100 Euro for an hour or about $120US. Many providers are charging $150-$170 for an hour, I'm trying to see the "value" even if its roughly 30-35% less than what you would find on say Eros locally.

What do you think??

Bubby
02-24-09, 05:24
Wooterz,

Awesome trip report. You have already received excellent advice, so I won't repeat it. You had THE typical Adelita experience. I always stop in there, but I can't remember the last time I took a girl up. I would echo the recommendation of trying Hong Kong club. You will probably have a better experience. Lots of opportunity in Tropical and Chavelas as well, but there is a little more finesse involved. (not much, though!). Good luck!

DJ,

You sound fairly experienced, but surely you realize that finding a bar girl in TJ that will offer what you are seeking is rare indeed. I haven't tried any of the escort services, but I am ready to take the plunge. Rates seem to be from $80 up to $160 per hour, and the chicas look HOT! GFE is a virtual certainty. BBBJ is offered by most. Practically all of them earn excellent reviews for service and looks. Many offer greek for an additional fee. I don't think it is permitted to post links to the agencies, but they are not too difficult to find. If you go, be sure to let us know how it goes!

Ruffianomega
02-24-09, 07:00
Hi my fellow mongers,

I am planning a trip with a few friends this weekend. Unfortunately the forecast shows rain thur, frid, sat. Nevertheless I am EXCITED, I have been to nogales & rocky point but from all I've read about Tijuana, it seems like theres MUCH more of a selection and ALOT better prices.

Can anyone give me any advise on hotel Nelson that looks like the closes hotel to the action.

Also which spots should I definitely visit, I have Adelitas, Hong Kong & the street action on my agenda (PS. Great job on the map Efjayel, I'm absolutely going to use that)

Any advise on specific girls to see and other hot spots not to miss or any tips..-- any advice would be appreciated to make my first trip to Tijuana one to remember (in a good way)

Laylow3
02-24-09, 07:57
I was TAD to San Diego last May and I went to Tijuana two times. I thought I made a lot of mistakes when I went there so initially I didn't want to post here but now that I think about it maybe I should so others can give me "corrections" on what I did wrong or whatever. Anyway.

I was staying on the naval base at 32nd street. I was a little scared to go to Tijuana alone because everyone I spoke with said that I shouldn't go alone b/c it's so dangerous and that if I did go alone I absolutely should return BEFORE it gets dark. Also, I couldn't find anyone to go with me there. So, one Friday I decided to just fuck it and go. I went down there at about 4:10pm. I took that red trolley thing that stops in front of the base. Took about 15 min. To get to the border. So after another 15 min. Of deciding whether I should actually cross. I did it. I was finally in Mexico. I stood by the gate for about 10 min. B/c I didn't know which direction to go. All of a sudden this chubby mexican-american girl asks me am I lost. Of course I was! Well, to get to the point she showed me around. (just the main small square and small club area here nearest to the border) Actually I made out w/ her and I tried to get her to go to a hotel w/ me but she said to come back and see on Sat. After about an hour she escorted me back to the gate and I went back to base.

The second time I went to Tijuana was the very next day. I didn't think it was that bad now. This time I met a fellow sailor on the trolley. He was headed home. He lived in Tijuana w/ his gf. He took me to a taxi and told the taxi to take me to the prostitute area. I thought that I was going to finally get laid. So I get there and once again I'm spooked. I see all the girls standing on the wall smiling at me but I keep thinking that if I go into a motel w/ one of these girls one of her male friends is just going to rob me, beat my ass, and take off. I go up and down that one street w/ all the girls on it about 6 times and then I see a lot of the mexican police in full body gear w/ M-16 patrolling the streets. Well, that did it for me. After that, I hopped on the bus, got back to the border and that was it. I returned home to Hawaii two days later. (btw, I do speak spanish as well)

My thoughts on what I did:

I should have:

1. Looked up specific clubs to go to and when. (I hear that picking up local girls isn't really that difficult)
2. Looked up where NOT to go and when.
3. Asked about recent prices & procedures

Hope this helps someone who's undecided about going there for safety reasons.

Wooterz
02-24-09, 09:07
Country John,

I read your post and was completely blown away. You are so dead on with your analysis it's actually kind of scary. The part about "becoming disappointed by what WAS happening" was exactly what was going through my mind about 5 seconds into the sex, something I couldn't quite convey in my original post. Further, you're absolutely right when you mention Claudia would fuck my brains out. I can't believe I overlooked some huge indicators such as body language and basic human interaction. For example, Claudia came up from behind me (I couldn't see her) and gave me a hug. When she sat down next to me, she had huge, genuine smile and told me "Abrázame, " like she actually wanted me to. She was VERY grateful when I bought her the drink, she kept thanking me and was constantly touching my arms, chest, side, back, etc. Also, she was very playful and kept repeating my name and acting as if we were having sex. When I told her "maybe later, " she commanded me to give her a kiss on the cheek before she went. In contrast, Lucy (the blonde) seemed cold as hell now that I think of it.

I realize exactly why I didn't enjoy the sex at Adelitas. Sex is supposed to be pleasurable, something that brings us joy. That's why we, as mongers, go out of our way to get it. Having sex with "Loosey" brought me no joy, it was exhausting and tiring. 25 minutes in, I felt as if I hadn't even started yet. Whether this could have been accredited to her looseness, her stink, her aloof attitude, my nervousness, or my slight inebriation, I don't know for sure. It wasn't so much that I was expecting a GFE. I just wanted to get my rocks off with a tight, good-looking, great-smelling babe. I got 1 out of the 3 which wasn't enough for me. My next trip, I'm going to go with a slightly more mature, less attractive female who is actually "in the mood" in hopes of receiving a better experience. I will definitely follow your advice the next time I visit Tijuana and I'll make sure to post about my experience. Thanks man.

Also, thanks Phordphan and FJL for your advice, I'll definitely remember that.

DJ, I just want to point out, my experience isn't exactly indicative of all that Tijuana has to offer. There are other clubs, bars, and brothels that exist in Tijuana and even more places as you venture out into other parts of Mexico. I'll let the other guys give you the lowdown on where to go because I don't really know myself.

Keep it real guys,

Wooterz

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Phordphan
02-24-09, 09:29
What is the groups recommendations for which bars and strip clubs I should focus on?

GFE or PSE is important, I'm never been high on blow-jobs. Either you want to do it because you enjoy it or don't bother and that means no CBJ, always BBBJ for me or nothing at all.

Also what are my chances of requesting anal and getting it?

I don't envision myself making the same mistakes, I have been to TJ before (1), also I have mongered before (2), the only difference English isn't as widely spoken as it is in Germany.

I had such high quality service in Germany that I am concerned horrible service or smelly women would kill any desire to return to Mexico. I know what a 30 Euro industrial "fuck" looks like as well and that sounds like Wooterz AB adventure. Only difference being he expected more, I got just what I expected for 30 Euro...

or

Should I just focus on Escorts?

I don't know, its roughly the same as I paid in Europe, but I was hoping I could send much less. At the time I paid 100 Euro for an hour or about $120US. Many providers are charging $150-$170 for an hour, I'm trying to see the "value" even if its roughly 30-35% less than what you would find on say Eros locally.

What do you think??
I can't comment on escorts because I don't use them. I just think they're poor value for money. That's just me.

The main issues with TJ, as I see them, are the language barrier and the time needed. If you're looking for GFE you almost HAVE to speak some Spanish.

You'll have better luck, IMHO, by focusing on CC, or, perhaps, Tropical or Las Chavelas. CC has a much less "commercial" feel and the girls at TB tend to have somewhat lower mileage. I think GFE is going to be easier to obtain at one of these venues.

PSE is going to be a little more elusive. I find that it's a lot more likely with repeats. If the girls knows you, and likes you, the chances for PSE go up. But YMMV and you can always get lucky!

Anal's hit and miss. It's all a numbers game. Ask. Sooner or later one will say yes.

Surfnk9
02-24-09, 12:17
I can't comment on escorts because I don't use them. I just think they're poor value for money. That's just me.

The main issues with TJ, as I see them, are the language barrier and the time needed. If you're looking for GFE you almost HAVE to speak some Spanish.

You'll have better luck, IMHO, by focusing on CC, or, perhaps, Tropical or Las Chavelas. CC has a much less "commercial" feel and the girls at TB tend to have somewhat lower mileage. I think GFE is going to be easier to obtain at one of these venues.

PSE is going to be a little more elusive. I find that it's a lot more likely with repeats. If the girls knows you, and likes you, the chances for PSE go up. But YMMV and you can always get lucky!

Anal's hit and miss. It's all a numbers game. Ask. Sooner or later one will say yes.
Is it just me or what?
I have found CC is void of girls and customers most of the time. Tropical has low quality girls and not much selection. I like Chevales for a local feel and enjoy it for a break, but the girl choice is less than average.
You didn’t mention HK. It‘s always been my favorite and now it’s even better with the new layout. The quality is on average better than the other places mentioned and it has more of a strip club atmosphere. This is where I have found all of my GFE and PSE.
Yes, Spanish is a big plus for the GFE . If a gal peaks my interest I buy her a ficha drink, talk to her for a while. They tend to like it when you engage them with more than the terms of bodily fluid exchange.
I have yet to get a PSE with a first timer; it’s always been with a repeat.

Phordphan
02-24-09, 17:57
Is it just me or what?
I have found CC is void of girls and customers most of the time. Tropical has low quality girls and not much selection. I like Chevales for a local feel and enjoy it for a break, but the girl choice is less than average.
You didn’t mention HK. It‘s always been my favorite and now it’s even better with the new layout. The quality is on average better than the other places mentioned and it has more of a strip club atmosphere. This is where I have found all of my GFE and PSE.
Yes, Spanish is a big plus for the GFE . If a gal peaks my interest I buy her a ficha drink, talk to her for a while. They tend to like it when you engage them with more than the terms of bodily fluid exchange.
I have yet to get a PSE with a first timer; it’s always been with a repeat.

CC is a shadow of its former self. :( I've always had much more in the GFE experience there, but you now need to go pretty late, and I understand mid-week is not good at all. Lots of my trips are daytime now, and there is now NOBODY in CC anytime before 8, or so.

I've seen some pretty good ones in Tropical. I've had a couple of really good sessions out of a couple of the gals, and the prices are good. I didn't think the quality of girls was much less than Las Chavelas. Speaking of which, there are tons of nice ladies at LC these days. Now, I'll admit that TB and LC tend to cater more to locals, and the girls do tend to look more like what the locals prefer, which is a little on the chubby side. But there are plenty of diamonds. Especially if you're looking more for good experience and less for model-quality looks.

I didn't mention HK to DJ4M because he was looking for GFE/PSE. I like HK a lot. But it seems to me to have gotten a lot more "commercial" since the remodel. I still think it's what all strip clubs should be like (except for the pesky meseros), but GFEs, IMHO, are a little harder to come by. Not Adelita's hard by any means.

Yeah, most of my PSEs have been with repeats.

Country John
02-24-09, 21:28
I might be off thread, but PhordPhan is right. CC is like a museum. Dark, quiet etc.

I think the reason is that Adelita's despite having such a poor reputation has the same advantage Disney does, and that is "name recognition."

IMHO, Chicago club is a better representation of the old days in the Zona. Adelitas and Miami/Hong Kong have renovated and with it took the nostalgia out of the place. The "romance" is gone.

If more guys visited Chicago Club, the girls would work there but unfortunately most mongers INSIST on going to Adelitas, therefore they have all the business. A pity really.

I'd like to start a Chicago Club Revival. It would be a happening place if people could just forget about getting clipped at Adelita's and go for some real game.

Adelita's is a "Stepford Wives" kind of robotic fuck factory. I go there with my girl to look at the nice pussy, but I would not monger there. I would monger at CC first, then slip over to HK, up to Rio Verde back down the hill to Tropical etc. I'd go to Adelita's for a beer, then leave.

DJ FourMoney
02-24-09, 22:09
I might be off thread, but PhordPhan is right. CC is like a museum. Dark, quiet etc.

I think the reason is that Adelita's despite having such a poor reputation has the same advantage Disney does, and that is "name recognition."

IMHO, Chicago club is a better representation of the old days in the Zona. Adelitas and Miami/Hong Kong have renovated and with it took the nostalgia out of the place. The "romance" is gone.

If more guys visited Chicago Club, the girls would work there but unfortunately most mongers INSIST on going to Adelitas, therefore they have all the business. A pity really.

I'd like to start a Chicago Club Revival. It would be a happening place if people could just forget about getting clipped at Adelita's and go for some real game.

Adelita's is a "Stepford Wives" kind of robotic fuck factory. I go there with my girl to look at the nice pussy, but I would not monger there. I would monger at CC first, then slip over to HK, up to Rio Verde back down the hill to Tropical etc. I'd go to Adelita's for a beer, then leave.

Thanks John

Adelita's is known to many people, mostly Mexican-Americans (in my experience) and that name recognition does bring alot of business, positive or negative results not withstanding.

The term "Fuck Factory" comes up often from people I recognize as TJ regulars, not excited about that at all.

I have noted your recommendations Phordphan and I thank you again.

I think I will delve into Escorts a bit, maybe.

Finally, I will be going next week, mid week more than likely and I would guess that showing late in the morning, early afternoon would be ideal???

I will have a full report when I return...

Belgrath
02-25-09, 03:40
I might be off thread, but PhordPhan is right. CC is like a museum. Dark, quiet etc.

I think the reason is that Adelita's despite having such a poor reputation has the same advantage Disney does, and that is "name recognition."

IMHO, Chicago club is a better representation of the old days in the Zona. Adelitas and Miami/Hong Kong have renovated and with it took the nostalgia out of the place. The "romance" is gone.

If more guys visited Chicago Club, the girls would work there but unfortunately most mongers INSIST on going to Adelitas, therefore they have all the business. A pity really.

I'd like to start a Chicago Club Revival. It would be a happening place if people could just forget about getting clipped at Adelita's and go for some real game.

Adelita's is a "Stepford Wives" kind of robotic fuck factory. I go there with my girl to look at the nice pussy, but I would not monger there. I would monger at CC first, then slip over to HK, up to Rio Verde back down the hill to Tropical etc. I'd go to Adelita's for a beer, then leave.

CC drink, ficha prices and exchange rate is very unfriendly to local Mexicans and most gringos too. A fincha paid in pesos is crazy high especially when down the street the bars are having 2 for 1 beer and some 21 peso beers. Have specials and if they do SAY IT OUT LOUD in front of the club with big glowy banner or something. Haveing one ok looking new mesera and 10 fat little ones sitting around is prob not gonna help the bottom line too much, Guys dont want to be hassled even more for drinks if nothings going on.

The chicas are nicer upstairs usually and no 20 minute knocks in Jalos but the depth of talent is way smaller then AB's. When the top 5-6 are sitting with someone or arriba'd theres not too much talent left over most nights. Often the music is too loud to really talk much to the chicas and get to know each other, even when there is no one danceing.

CC night manager needs to know about keeping momentum in his club. AB and HK always have dancers or some sort of eye candy going on stage while CC often doest start dancers till 11:30pm on Fri-Sat. Too many long dead times between dancers when one is arribad that kills momentum instead of quickly moving on to the next one available and popping the upstairs chica in later to dance when she gets back.

Kinda of vicious cycle the past few years also with less hot chicas visible less guys show up and that causes less chicas to show up... CC has had alot of nice talent start for a little while then leave for other clubs or cities cause the money wasnt there.

Those curtained booths should just be converted into a big sofa with a table and a big TV and heater/AC for curling up with a chica(s) and watching sports/soaps with a brews or something hehe.

Surfnk9
02-25-09, 09:39
With the exchange rate better now, where would a good place to get a good rate be?
In the past I traveled further south and did the exchange before heading across the border even though I knew the rate wasn't the best available. It was for convenience sake. I’m heading down in a few days and with the economy the way it is, every peso counts. Plus it will be nice dealing in the local currency. Thanks

Phordphan
02-25-09, 16:27
With the exchange rate better now, where would a good place to get a good rate be?
In the past I traveled further south and did the exchange before heading across the border even though I knew the rate wasn't the best available. It was for convenience sake. I’m heading down in a few days and with the economy the way it is, every peso counts. Plus it will be nice dealing in the local currency. Thanks

The casa de cambio on Constitucion, adjacent to the police substation, tends to have the best rates. Second best would be the one right inside the border, on the left as you walk towards the taxi turnstiles.

Surfnk9
02-25-09, 18:37
The casa de cambio on Constitucion, adjacent to the police substation, tends to have the best rates. Second best would be the one right inside the border, on the left as you walk towards the taxi turnstiles.
Muchas Gracias

SDcruiser
02-26-09, 00:18
With the exchange rate better now, where would a good place to get a good rate be?
In the past I traveled further south and did the exchange before heading across the border even though I knew the rate wasn't the best available. It was for convenience sake. I’m heading down in a few days and with the economy the way it is, every peso counts. Plus it will be nice dealing in the local currency. Thanks


If you plan to spend $200 then use the ATM. You get a better rate than a casa de cambio - even with the surcharge.

cc= $200x13.9 = 2780
ATM=$195x14.8=2886

So go to the ATM and get $3000 pesos and shopp til you drop.

Also avoid the CC's with five digits in their rate. They are such a rip and target the drunk and stupid. They will post a rate like 13099. The '0' is not a decimal point. You think your getting 13.99:1 when youare getting 13.099:1. One is on the west side on Constitution.

SDC

Surfnk9
02-26-09, 03:24
So go to the ATM and get $3000 pesos and shopp til you drop.
SDC

Or did you mean "pop till you drop"?
Thanks

Phordphan
02-26-09, 07:07
Just an FYI, I got 14.45:1 at the Constitucion C de C last Thursday.

I'll check it tomorrow and report back.

Green_Thumb
02-27-09, 07:57
Woot,

I just read your report, so please excuse my belated post. But you said you talked to Claudia first? Is this the same Claudia I know. Petite, very young looking, great little body & ass showing tattoo lower back, not to mention one of the prettiest girls in AB? Oh, she's also blond last I saw her.

So unless she's gotten fat, lost her way or changed her looks for the worst, just how hot could this Lucy chica be that you turned down Claudia? I'm telling you man, go back, find Claudia (if it's the one I'm thinking) and your trip will be 360 degrees different. I have had many sessions with her, my ATF in AB, which I have documented in detail if you check my past Tijuana reports.

In fact, I have been to several spots around the world mongering (Bangkok, Costa R) and would probably rate her top #5 as far as looks and performance I have ever encountered.

And if you want to see what #1 & #2 of all time look like, go to the Costa Rica photo gallery and check out the pics I posted from my trip there last month; photos still currently on page 1. Some real stunners. I can only pray to have these 2 girls lose their top rankings on future mongering trips

Anyways, nice report, just can't believe you possibly passed up Claudia. And for only $50! ? WTF, no way, can't be her. Killing me.

GT

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Efjayel
02-27-09, 13:58
How about a quick link to the pics?

Sgt Perv
02-27-09, 15:28
How about a quick link to the pics?It was real easy to find.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=844552
Reports 1259 and 1260.

Wooterz
02-28-09, 14:35
Woot,

I just read your report, so please excuse my belated post. But you said you talked to Claudia first? Is this the same Claudia I know. Petite, very young looking, great little body & ass showing tattoo lower back, not to mention one of the prettiest girls in AB? Oh, she's also blond last I saw her.

So unless she's gotten fat, lost her way or changed her looks for the worst, just how hot could this Lucy chica be that you turned down Claudia? I'm telling you man, go back, find Claudia (if it's the one I'm thinking) and your trip will be 360 degrees different. I have had many sessions with her, my ATF in AB, which I have documented in detail if you check my past Tijuana reports.

In fact, I have been to several spots around the world mongering (Bangkok, Costa R) and would probably rate her top #5 as far as looks and performance I have ever encountered.

And if you want to see what #1 & #2 of all time look like, go to the Costa Rica photo gallery and check out the pics I posted from my trip there last month; photos still currently on page 1. Some real stunners. I can only pray to have these 2 girls lose their top rankings on future mongering trips

Anyways, nice report, just can't believe you possibly passed up Claudia. And for only $50! ? WTF, no way, can't be her. Killing me.

GT

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The Claudia I'm referring to was definitely a different Claudia. She was probably 5'6-5'7, in her late 20s, with black wavy/curly hair. My memory is very hazy from that night so I'm not 100% sure but I think it is safe to say we are talking about two different girls here.

The reason why I wanted Lucy really bad was because she shared a very striking resemblance to a girl I knew back in high school whom I wanted to have sex with but never did. Lucy was around 5'4-5'5, 110-115 pounds, light skinned (almost Caucasian looking), no tattoos, nice sized ass, breasts at around a B cup, nice skin, and a little mole on the right side of her chin. She wore a little black top and bottom and hung out near hottie central. She had straight hair and I believe it was brown or possibly a lighter brown/blonde. Of the girls that I saw that night, she was probably the cutest one so that's why I choose her. I really wish I could remember more but again, my memory was fuzzy as it was my first time there and I was a little buzzed off the Coronas. Hope that helped.

Bunky
02-28-09, 21:27
I'd like to start a Chicago Club Revival. It would be a happening place if people could just forget about getting clipped at Adelita's and go for some real game.I share Country John's affection for the Chicago Club. Back in the early 90s it was an amazing place with a spectacular lineup of hotties. Nobody ever looked better than Rosie did wearing impossibly tiny short shorts. Esua had the look and strut of a runway model. Sophi was the girl next door in her cotton sweaters and minimal makeup. But upstairs she'd suck your dick without a condom and look you right in the eye when you launched a load all over her perfect teen face.

These days, however, the Chicago Club is a tomb and the handful of girls who still work there are scarifyingly disgusting. While I agree with Country John that more girls would show up if more guys patronized the place, I think there is much the management could do to get the ball rolling.

As I've written here before, the lighting in the Chicago Club well and truly sucks. You just can't see the girls in the gloomy alcove near the front door, or in the shadows near the DJ booth. And when they sit at the bars they are backlit by the brightest lights in the club. Both the Adelita Bar and the Hong Kong Club have excellent lighting that's easily the equal of any high end strip club in the states. The Chicago Club needs to copy it.

Second, the frequent strip shows are not helping. The lights are even dimmer while they are ongoing, and it's just impossible to see any of the girls. Having a single girl occupying the massive stage for 15 or 20 minutes is just not cutting it. Even if she is passably hot it's boring to watch only her. Perhaps this was the state of the art in south of the border raunch circa 1960, but today the Chicago Club single girl strip show pales in comparison to what they're doing at the Hong Kong Club. Back in the 90s the manager would periodically require all the girls to take the stage fully clothed where they danced to something upbeat for a couple of songs. It was like being at a nightclub full of hotties, except you could bang all of them. If they can rebuild their staff this might be a nice alternative to the endless dull strip shows.

Finally, the Chicago Club seems to have morphed into a ficha bar. The handful of girls who are worth a second look spend most of their time sitting and drinking with customers. I don't know how you encourage turnover. But it's frustrating to see somebody you'd like to take upstairs sitting in a booth for hours on end.

Perhaps all this is wishful thinking. I suspect there are only so many high end customers, and their number has been sharply reduced by the current global economic slowdown. Maybe the demand is such that only two high end clubs can survive and whoever owns the Chicago Club has elected to cede the field to their rivals. Sigh. The place was tons of fun in the past and it's sad to see it reduced to a gloomy hole in the wall.

Bunky

Dornyone
03-01-09, 10:15
Looking at the news, then reading what's posted here and on the Ab report thread, TJ is taking on the look of a place I'll skip. Mongering as I do in Chile is a far less stressful pastime and once you get past the airfare, cost effective. Seems like Efjayel and I will soon have something in common, vicarious TJ mongering.

Efjayel
03-02-09, 21:17
Hey, I still go. last time I went was like about a month ago.

Apache
03-03-09, 00:59
Reading this thread I was a little apprehensive for my safety before making a bombing run yesterday afternoon.

At a farmacia by the turnstyles, I asked how safe Coahuilla was these days...One local laughed & said "It's the safest place in Tijuana to be now."

I had no problems.

Raddar
03-03-09, 08:32
My trip last year. I was in sd last year approx March for a conference and I took the opportunity to take a quick trip on one of the evenings to Tijuana. I was really nervous because I was alone, it was midnight when I crossed the border and made it to adelitas. Just a bunch of workers heading back home looking tired as I passed from sd into the third world. Took the customary $5 taxi to adel's no problem. Felt safe once I got into the club though there were plenty of locals just loitering around.

It was packed with babes and not so babes and a moderate amount of guys. Probably a ratio of 1 to 1. Went to the back where there was a barbie, who I could not resist. 60 quoted so I took it. Told her I wanted photos, and had brought my mini digicamera. She let me take a few nonfacial shots of her body. Don't remember her name. Then straight to business. Covered BJ for five min, then cg. I lasted not 5 minutes. She then let me take a few more shots because she felt guilty I finished so fast. Total session 15 min. The cum guy wanted a tip so I gave him 1. Annoying. Back downstairs. Met another younger gal stating she was 18. Probably 21. Bought her a drink at the bar. Small talk. Couldn't resist. Back upstairs. She also allowed several pics. Sorry but I deleted the images last year. Same pattern of covered BJ for 5 min followed by cg, doggie. Lasted 15 min. Out the door in 20 min. Not really good use of my time after each 12 bill for the room.

Back downstairs. Still more interesting girls around to meet. Saw a few on the stairs outside, but they seemed uninterested. I was getting tired so I headed back. Again I got very nervous as I flagged a taxi, which was parked right outside with several other taxis. Linea. Few suspicious characters along the sidewalk as I headed out. But I made it back in one piece and breathed a sigh of relief. Was happier to see that my car was still there in the parking lot next to the border crossing. I took my passport, drivers lic, $300.

I will be in sd next week and I am wondering if things have changed much. The violence seems to be on the rise, but is it still safe to go? I am planning on going sat during the daytime. Now that I have had a chance to read this board, I will try the hk, adelita, and maybe even hit the alley. What is the proper thing to say when you are harassed by the police? I don't drink or do drugs. I will not be taking my camera after some reports here say that the pics are incriminating. Is it safer to hook up with another lurker from here?

I am looking for greek. Any specific providers there?

Raddar

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Precocious One
03-03-09, 15:28
Ugh. I was planning on coming to Tijuana within the next couple of weeks. Possibly living in Ensinada, renting a car and visiting Tijuana and California often.

I saw a report on the news recently of the escalating violence and danger between drug cartel and border patrol and then I saw that Canada (where I'm from) has issued an official travel advisory to not visit any of the border towns between Mexico and the United States. Particularly Tijuana.

Is it actually that bad? I spent 3 months in Medellin, Colombia last year and it was pretty tranquil, and 11 months in Costa Rica as well. I was 110% confident in Mexico before hearing these news reports. Just wondering if I still should be or if there is a real issue.

Obviously, there is a big difference between this year and last year in safety regardless of locality. From what I hear, they are no full-on protesting and blocking streets in the city of Monterrey, MX. A riot ready to happen. Also, a journalist was recently killed there that was reporting on the violence and dissidence.

If you still elect in venturing to Ensenada(I highly recommend this city and it is my favorite in all of MX), head on over to the Casa Country Bar and Campo where they have a large contingency of ex-patriates in a very safe beach community. Back in 2006, I was able to rent a 900 sq.foot house for $300/month. It is about two miles south of downtown. Most Mexican Nationals will know of its whereabouts.

And yes, the danger in MX is a real issue and will continue to be so(it is going to get worse) for the foreseeable future.

Phordphan
03-03-09, 18:16
I will be in sd next week and I am wondering if things have changed much. The violence seems to be on the rise, but is it still safe to go? I am planning on going sat during the daytime. Now that I have had a chance to read this board, I will try the hk, adelita, and maybe even hit the alley. What is the proper thing to say when you are harassed by the police? I don't drink or do drugs. I will not be taking my camera after some reports here say that the pics are incriminating. Is it safer to hook up with another lurker from here?


Very dangerous, especially during the day. The narcos aim better in the daylight. Stay away, far, far, away.

As far a cops, just pull all of your money out of your wallet, drop it on the ground, and run like hell when they stoop to pick it up!!

Seriously, unless you go looking for trouble, you'll have a hard time finding it. The cops will not bother you during the day unless you're doing something to attract attention. There is way too much information on this board about dealing with the fuzz for it to be repeated here.

Also, never, ever, accept the first quoted price. This is Mexico.

Phordphan
03-03-09, 18:27
Last Thursday I decided to take a break from opressing the proletariat and do a really quick, really cheap, TJ run. The G7 was down for its annual, so flying was out of the question. The ashtrays in the R8 were full, and I will not drive a car in such a condition. I'd sent Jeeves home early with a head cold, so the limo was out. Crap. I had to settle for driving the crummy SLK.

Seriously, I was short on time and the TJ budget was a bit light, but I figured I could accomplish my mission with the funds available. So, I hit the road as soon as I could.

Wound up at the border at about 12:30pm. I'd planned on maybe visiting HK to see a fave, or, perhaps, Las Chubbies for some new blood. Decisions, decisions! It was a nice afternoon, so I took a stroll from the border to the Zona. BTW, exchange rate at the border was 14.0:1.

I crossed Revu onto Art. 123 and, looking up, there was Granny Gloria, perched like a vulture, outside Fracaso. She saw me and recognized me immediately. Well, well.

She nabbed me and hugged me, asked if I'd come to see her. "Of course!" I told her I had to go change some money and would be back in 5 minutes. I went down to the casa de cambio near the cop shop and got 14.5:1. On the way to, and fro, there were two really cute SGs on Con, near the corner of Art. Both looked almost Asian, wearing the school-girl-type outfit, bare midriff, tight bodies, late teens. I almost didn't make it back to GG.

So, I got back to GG and she was ready to drag me straight into the hotel. No, I need a drink first. I'm thirsty. So we step into Fracaso, the first time I'd set foot in the place. At 1:00 it's pretty dead, with some guy at the bar staring at his beer and not moving, the bartender watching TV, a couple of other locals chatting.

We park at the bar and I order a small Tecate. Small as in regular size, as opposed to the large, which was closer to a quart. 20 pesos. Not bad. I asked GG if she wanted a drink. She cupped her mouth to my ear and whispered "Cinquenta y cinco pesos" as if it were a ridiculous amount of money. Actually, it was, in relation to the price of the beer. It seems similar to the relation of ficha drinks to beers in, say, HK. In any case, she got a thimble-full of Clamato and a handful of coins.

The cerveza certinly went down well, and I was seriously considering another. But GG was ready. She was practically pulling me off the barstool, and said we could come back afterwards for another drink. OK, whatever.

We walked into the hotel and I handed the guy a 100p note. He wanted to know if we wanted an hour. At first we said no, then I reconsidered and figured, "What the hell." So, he kept the 100 and we went downstairs.

In the room she immediately started undressing while explaining that sometimes, if one has too many beers, things don't function properly. Ahh, that explains a lot, doesn't it? :)

I got a strange feeling that she may have liked our last session a little too much, and was looking for an encore, or more. It turned out I was correct. She starts the cuddling, nibbling, LFK, and trying to undress me. Then she starts in on her patented BBBJ. I figure I'll give her about 45 minutes to stop that!!

But, after about 5 minutes, I guess she figured it was her turn. She comes up for air and, after a little more LFK, lays down and asks me to start on her tits. So, I play, fondle, nibble and suck for a while, then start working my way down south. Her panocha was just as fresh and clean this time, as last, proving that the last time wasn't a fluke.

This time she was even more into it than last. And it turned into a lot more work, too. :eek: As an aside, every girl seems to have their favorite technique. Hers is having her clit nibbled and sucked, while playing with the outside of her vagina, but not sticking your finger inside. Just a little odd, that's all. But she took advantage of the extra time and made me work for about 40 minutes, literally, before she finally let out her signature deep moans and groans and made me stop. Phew. I was tired and had a stiff neck by this time, but at least one of us was happy.

Well, she's certainly no ingrate and knows how to express her appreciation. So, she resumed her BBBJ for a while, then applied the party hat and pulled me into a really great mish. For an old gal, she sure has a tight pussy. All the while she's caressing and murmuring sweet nothings. After I finish she holds onto me for a while, then eases me out, disposes of the condom, cleans me up a bit and tells me to lay down and rest for a minute. Then she started yakking and wouldn't shut up. She kept telling me something about not doing that, or having that, or something, in half a year (her words). Then she kept telling me how "otras personas" would just come in and bang away, but not take care of her, or something to that effect. My Spanish couldn't keep up. Yikes, I think I've created a monster.

Anyway, she finally asks about the time. I see that we're alread 10 minutes over our hour, but no knock. I don't think anyone, this time of day, really cared. I finally pull myself out of bed and get dressed. I counted out 270 pesos, and she seemed really happy with that. I asked for a hug before going out, and she almost pulled me over on top of her it was so forceful. Plus, she's really short. Added bonus, no jizz-boy hanging around for a teep.

We go upstairs, and it's now about 2:40 and I really have to get back on the road if I'm to miss some of the traffic. So, no beer for me. We part on the sidewalk after she carefully examines me for lipstick! That's nice.

Got back to the border, across and in the car by 2:55. So, total cost, excluding gas and parking, was 75p for drinks, 10p tip for the bartender, 100p for the room, 270p for GG and 5p for some chicle. 460p, or about $32. That was waaaaaay cheaper than I'd anticipated. But maybe next time I can get her to pay me!!

Sgt Perv
03-04-09, 07:52
I crossed Revu onto Art. 123 and, looking up, there was Granny Gloria, perched like a vulture, outside Fracaso. She saw me and recognized me immediately. Well, well.I have always heard that once you go granny, you will never want a girl with a younger fanny.

It sounds like you get a reverse "senior discount" also.

Efjayel
03-04-09, 10:44
Nice cheapskate run fjord. And since your a rich guy like me, we should swap butlers for a day just for the laughs. lol.

Surfnk9
03-07-09, 00:40
Not once but two times with abuelita. Way to go!
It's so impressive I had to opine.

Gloria likes Phordphan and his prick
Another trip south it’s a hat trick
It’s just his good luck
She only a few bucks
Demand is quite low for the geriatric

Keep up the good work. And keep the reports coming.

DJ FourMoney
03-07-09, 11:14
Let me start by saying thank you for the information.

Second let me say, stick to your guns and stick to your plan whatever it is.

I got out of the house late. I went to pick up my Wingman and after roughly 90 mins of trying to call (lives in a Secure building in Hollywood) he finally answered and we were on our way about 2:00pm. Not much traffic from LA to SD so it wasn't bad until we hit the 805, but the last exit was coming up so no worries.

I just walked into the house, so let me write this while its fresh.

We parked and walked across. Picked up a Taxi (First mistake). He of course was getting kicked down by two places. First was Luxor. Which is fine, but my Wingman needs a drink in him before doing anything plus he's never paid for pussy (never needed too) so was a little worried overall; about that and his safety.

Next we hit I believe it starts with an M and its not Miami. Location I couldn't tell you for sure either. They have an $8 entry fee. (Second Mistake), we decided "Nothing ventured..."

Anyway it was mostly empty just two guys off in a corner with 3 girls and a few more guys around with ladies. Then we got accosted by two ladies, one average looking with big knockers and her friend a dark-skin girl that wasn't my type at all. They proceeded to plop themselves on our laps and play with our dicks. This was a turnoff, completely! There was really only two 7-8 level women working. After we got rid of those two, my homie chatted up one of the better looking women and after playing pool and talking a bit (her English wasn't bad), she said she would fuck him in the VIP Room for $150!!! I said WTF! Now if I had never seen this or ISG, chances he would have paid, but nope that got us already for the entry fee. Being the nice guy I am I bought one round of lady drinks. We must have dumped $60+ in that place before we had enough.

This was the start of mistake number 3.

The taxi driver (Juan) didn't want to take us to the "Zona" because the police have been harnessing people. Of course I have known this but what I have learned over the years with any police presents, don't make an ass out of yourself and they won't bother you.

We finally got him to take us to Hong Kong. Wow! interesting place... Decor is nice and modern, like it alot actually. The talent level was pretty high. When we first walked in a stunna was on one of the risers and then a few minutes later (man I should have snapped a phone pic) this girl who looked like she had some Asian blood stood up on one of the seats and started shaking her ass. I personally don't care if they are nature or "bolt-ons" this Brotha Likes Him Some TITTIES and this girl had plenty to spare! Ultra smooth, silky creamy skin, wow I've only seen Spaniards that look like this (when I was in Europe). My Wingman settled in and started drinking again. Now this would be an issue other than it was coming out of my pocket.... After a drink or two, he came over and said he was running short on cash (I had crossed the boarder with $200US) and all I had was one's left myself. How $200 disappeared so quickly I don't quiet understand (mistake number four).

Our driver Juan made stroll up the street and returned to inform us they had some 15 hotties up at AB. So we made the right turn out of the back of HK and stepped in to find, Juan nor his friend was lying. I would say yes, 15 solid 7's and up , couple of 8's and a few 9's.

I made a trip to the ATM, returned and while my homie was complaining I was being picky, I wasn't I just hadn't found anybody I wasn't (1) attracted too (2) not intimidated by. I consider myself attractive to a point and make no illusions dating hot women, I usually end up with lukewarm to warm women (6-7) in my dating pool. Anyway I found my first victim, her name is Mira (23, no kids) I believe, dye blond, nice rack, great ass, these are Mexicans???? Holy Cow! I love me some Latin women, curves for years and ass for days, ya hurr!

Nothing worth going into great detail about, though I did pull some Rev Cow girl Pornstar move . I haven't had sex much and while we picked up some Mista C from the RX, I didn't last two long (erection did though). Half a tab does a dick some good....As Country John likes to say about AB, its Industrial Fucking, Asmbly Line Sex and he's correct. Nothing GFE or PSE to report just full service, 3 positions.

By this time my homie was getting drunk. He is not out of control at all, in fact he's quite mellow. However he finally wanted to give a girl a try and couldn't make his mind. After several hours and more drinking it became a nuance. Constantly pulling girls aside to ask them how much, yadda, yadda.

To cut a long story short, while he was "shadow dancing", some chica plopped herself down next to me and started begging me to fuck her. About 10 mins of trying to stop her advances, I caved.

Her name is Emma (don't quote me its fuzzy at the moment) perfect English, 1 kid. She's the kind of girl you find in a bar or nightclub and you consider them "leftovers". Nothing remarkable at all about her, just cute in a somebody else's girlfriend kind of way. A little DATY, 3 positions and about 15 mins of pounding her in doggy, she actually came. After all that's what she wanted, she got it. We laid together for the least 10 mins or so, nice girl nothing you would sport as I said, but I would repeat but only if other options are available.

I would repeat with Mira if I was looking just to fuck somebody hot, but I like GFE but I doubt I would find that in AB, two down no Kissing at all, nevermind DFK.

I never made it down to the other joints I wanted to check out and spent about would you believe $600....

Lessons learned -

a) Wingman had a great time (interestingly enough) and wants to return. On his dime next time and I will get paid back I'm not worried anyway. He should have trusted me as I have trusted all of you with your reports. I knew what the deal was, yet he wanted to listen to the cabbie and I wanted to make sure he was comfortable so I would have a good time without him being worried about his personal safety or something.

I could have fucked a TON more for the money I spent and could have been fucked out with about $200 spent. Since I don't drink and I tend to milk sodas as I sit, one "lady drink" wouldn't make much a dent overall. So next time I plan on fucking more than twice and with such so-so results.

c) Re-visit A and B

All in All I had a good time, would have been better if I had taken control over the situation and we headed to the Zona first and AB which was my first choice anyway.

Is GFE only found with Escorts and maybe CC girls??? I am aware that some of you have made some of these bar girls your regulars and see then outside the clubs for longer sessions, I guess I just have to build up a rapport with somebody that mutually interested in me.

I think I have the salvation to my sex-less life I've had seemingly throughout my single life and only had been cured by either having a LTR GF's or lowering my standards far enough to make those with a series of issues that make them unsuitable for dating by many men or have low self esteem.

This is much cheaper than returning to Europe every so often that's for sure....

Sgt Perv
03-07-09, 14:05
Great report.

Sounds like you got caught up in the tourist traps including the Taxi drivers.

Next trip you should check out the alley girls because if you would have gone out the other door at HK and walked around to AB (very safe walk), you would have seen the menu for side dishes.

Convert to pesos (coin of the realm) to extend your buying power even at ATM's as you most likely do in Europe.

MX to US is about 15 to 1. A 33% discount.

It kind of sounds like you were keeping a taxi driver/tour guide close. Now I am sure you realize that is not necessary. They will only cost you more money.

On the inbound, have taxi take you to the arco (arch) and then walk around the block to the zona. Less chance of getting the taxi hussle.

Outbound ,get a taxi from in the zona(they are in high supply).

For one person and 3000 pesos ($200 us) you should be able to mate like a rabbit.
What you paid $600 for in US dollars you could have got for 600 MX pesos ($400 US).
Hope your next visit will be more enjoyable for you since you have gone through the learning curve (like we all have in newer areas).

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Ninguno Especial
03-07-09, 18:04
MX to US is about 15 to 1. A 33% discount.




15 to 1 paying the chica 1.5 or time and a half from the normal 10 to 1 rate. All street girls and many bar girls still accept 10:1 ratio.

If you normally pay $50 don't give the $50 worth of pesos (750) give her 500 pesos or $33. If you normally pay $100. give her 1,000 pesos or $66. A $20 street girl is happy with 200 pesos or $13. out of your pocket. If you pay in US dollars she will hold firm at $20 and receive 300 pesos when she goes to the cambio with your $20.

Use your head guys. It's a tough economy and BUYER'S MARKET for pussy in Mexico currently.

DJ FourMoney
03-07-09, 20:08
Great report.

Sounds like you got caught up in the tourist traps including the Taxi drivers.

Next trip you should check out the alley girls because if you would have gone out the other door at HK and walked around to AB (very safe walk), you would have seen the menu for side dishes.

Convert to pesos (coin of the realm) to extend your buying power even at ATM's as you most likely do in Europe.

MX to US is about 15 to 1. A 33% discount.

It kind of sounds like you were keeping a taxi driver/tour guide close. Now I am sure you realize that is not necessary. They will only cost you more money.

On the inbound, have taxi take you to the arco (arch) and then walk around the block to the zona. Less chance of getting the taxi hussle.

Outbound ,get a taxi from in the zona(they are in high supply).

For one person and 3000 pesos ($200 us) you should be able to mate like a rabbit.
What you paid $600 for in US dollars you could have got for 600 MX pesos ($400 US).
Hope your next visit will be more enjoyable for you since you have gone through the learning curve (like we all have in newer areas).

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Yes its learning curve. I have a number of a reliable taxi from another member and I will use that from now on. When I hit the ATM that's when the exchanged happen anyway. But I pulled about $100US every time, 3 times and I think about $50US the other time.

I didn't need the guide as much as my wingman did, so I will make him pay the $150 Juan cost me. I had the map and we could have walked to the Zona it was still daytime.

I will do much better next time and I'm working on next time. While driving is the cheapest option for me ($25). I would have to do at least two sessions to make the drive seem worth-while.

Street Girls offer the best monetary value but without more experience in the general area I don't think I'm ready for that yet and I know timing is important, which is better day or night?

Sgt Perv
03-07-09, 23:47
Day verses night?

Both have their advantages.

Days is less crowded and you can see the chicas better plus you can make better deals with the chicas.

Nights tend to have more chicas.

Personally, I prefer to spend the night in Tijuana and sample both.

Depending on how much of a creature of comfort you are, you can stay 1/2 a block off the zona (Hotel Nelson at the arco) and walk back and forth.

I like getting a alley girl from the day shift and make plans for when she gets off and take her to my room for a few hours of fun (1000 or so pesos).

Breaking up the drive back and forth to LA makes the trip so much more enjoyable plus you can relax enjoy some culture instead of watching your watch.

It is nice to wake up in the morning and walk half a block to shop for a little relief. I fully understand the taxi/tour guide for the first time but now you know the lay of the land and have a map. No need for him while you are mongering. You know that he is not going to take a bullet for you.

Hell for $150 US (2250 pesos) you could have three AB girls or eight alley girls.

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Efjayel
03-08-09, 00:28
I found my first victim, her name is Mira (23, no kids) I believe, dye blond, nice rack, great ass, these are Mexicans???? Holy Cow! I love me some Latin women, curves for years and ass for days, ya hurr!


I preffer natural women too. I don't care for stick figure women like they tend to praise here in the states.

And yes those where Mexican women. Honestly not your average Mexican girls but they are of Mexican decent. The true Mexican's where Indians and darker in color usually short. And sadly most American's stereotypically believe that Mexican's come only in this variation. But not so. When spaniards came and took over, some of them took Mexican wives and had mixed children. This is usually where some of the fairer skin Mexican's come from.

Nice Report DJ. I've seen you post many times. Surprised to find out it's your first time venturing into TJ. That other girl was crazy for wanting to charge $150 for a private booth. I'm guessing you and your friend must have looked like unknowing white american tourists and she was hoping you'd take the bait. Although, you should really learn spanish. It's helps you're cause a lot.

CadetPerv is right. You don't need a tour guide. The map points out the location of the Zona. It's only two blocks in size. Once there you don't even need the map anymore as all the clubs are practically next to each other.

For taxi's, when you first enter Tj take the the ones standing outside of the turnstyles. Just tell them where you need to go. And as Perv said, if you want to prevent being hassled by the taxi guy then ask him to drop you off at the arc. He won't know that you're heading to the clubs and won't try to take you somewhere else. The arc is very close walking distance to the Zona Norte. Like one block.

To leave the Zona norte, I recommend the taxi's in front of AB. I've taken those with no problems. All rides back and forth from the zona to the border should not be more than $5 bucks. Anyone tries to charge you more, simply walk away and try the next guy. Last time I went, the taxi's guys where desperate for riders.

You spent a lot of money like many people do on their first trips. It's okay. But now that you got a better feel for the place, you should be able to go straight for what you are there to do and not spend extra money for unnecesities.

Also perhaps you should befriend a girl you like and make her your regular. That's usually when they open up.

Night time is better since there is a wider selection and when the hotter women tend to arrive. But there is also more guys, competition and crowds.

GoodFella
03-08-09, 04:03
I've been to Tijuana a few times. Usually, I'm not too impressed. After Asia and South America the value and service just wasn't there. If it weren't for the tacos, I don't know if I would have returned. But I was in San Diego so figured might as well get some. Tacos that is.

I got to the border around 11pm. I had a taxi bring me to change my money in the city, got a little over 14 to the dollar. At the Cambio, I got out and changed 200 dollars. Got back in the cab and the car didn't start. Had a wierd feeling. Paranoid, standing outside, downtown with a cab that suddenly didn't start after me having changed a bunch of dollars. He wanted to wait for this his "friend", we did for about 20 minutes and then I asked another motorist if he could jump us. He did and we were on our way.

Driver asked where to, I said zona roja, he said I should go to a strip club on Revolucion. I said to the arc and on the way, the car stalls, dead. He pulls in to a club on Revolucion as if dropping me off. I end up pushing the car with some locals out of the road and hand him 5 bucks for getting me part way. Of course he demands 10 dollars since he took me to the Cambio. I was at the far end of Revolucion, I figured 5 bucks was enough considering the situation, if not too much and walked the 8 or so blocks to the arc.

Jumping ahead, there were a few girls at Adelita that were possibilities, for me the spinner type. One hung out with the dancers. Girls I think only go for certain customers, typically Asian and for a lot of money, so I bypassed her after seeing her snub guys left and right, myself included. Another girl, didn't drink alcohol when I bought her a drink. Bad sign for me, I like to have a few drinks and loosen the girl up, see if she will be fun or mechanical as usual. I ended up with the 3rd and final of the three possibilities.

I talked to her for a while. I left and came back after circling the alley, it was pretty slim this night, last Friday. I went back and talked to the same girl. She had mentioned she was leaving for the night in a couple hours. I asked if she ever hung out with customers outside Adelitas. She had to clarify if I was willing to pay or I just expected some free companionship. I asked if she knew of a nice hotel, I'd been to the Nelson and wanted something nicer. She knew of a place she said was nice and only 35 bucks. I suggested she show me where it was and hang out for a while.

She met me down the street and drove me to a hotel called The Mansion. Let me stop here and say, this girl was not typical. She spoke almost perfect englsih, had lived in the states for a while with an American boyfriend. She had a pretty nice car and seemed. Unusual for Adelitas. The place she took me to was about 10 minutes away and was a real nice place. Very new constuction, granite floors, big walk in shower and large tub, nice king size bed, 42 inch flat screen and 3 channels of porn. Oh, and a big mirror beside the bed.

She showered, we had a couple drinks, started watching porn and got naked. She is in her later 20's but a real nice body. I played with her T and A and she started with a CBJ while we watched porn and I watched her in the mirror. She got on top and then me behind. Who ever placed that mirror measured perfectly. I finished pretty quick, 10 minutes or so. We had a cigarette and another drink. Then repeated the process. The combination of her english, the nice place, tv, porn, mirror and her attitude, made this the best Tijuana experience, almost to good to believe. I lasted a little longer this time, multiple positions and CBJ, played with her arse in RCG and finished behind her. She had a real nice body, around 110 lbs, great little round arse. We fell asleep and woke around 11am.

She said she had to get going and asked if I wanted a little more. I was shocked but not too shocked to say yes. One more round, and off she went. I paid her what I had left in pesos, 1600, 1800, somewhere around there. I slept a little longer, showered, brushed my teeth, (the hotel had a complimentary tooth brush) and caught a cab to the border. 5 bucks later I was getting a taco lunch before crossing back to San Diego.

I paid 35 bucks for a real nice hotel and paid her what 2 sessions would have been at Adelitas. I had the comfort of what would be considered a nice 4 star hotel, drinks, privacy and this girls full attention all night and morning. A total gfe. Pretty rare in my experience in Mexico. I did tell her I was in town for a while and I think the possibility of repeat service assists in attitude but what ever the reason, it was a great experience. Far better then 15 minutes in a dirty, uncomfortable room. If I am to return, knowing this, I will not settle for those 15 minutes again. More is definately possible.

I wasn't harrased by anyone, although I have been before. Just the occasional "whatchya lookin for, " or "hey, remember me, " my experience is don't talk to anyone you don't know. It's only caused problems for me. As far as tacos, for 1 dollar, the stand next to Chicago Club gives you a huge one. Almost twice the size of the other stands. I could only eat 2. Until a couple hours passed by, then I tried the stand at the other end of the street. It was good too just smaller. I do love those things. Enjoy.

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Dornyone
03-08-09, 05:06
Errr FJL,
"I'm guessing you and your friend must have looked like unknowing white american tourists" ....
might be a neat trick, eh, DJ?

Efjayel
03-08-09, 06:21
I was simply guessing ethnicities. Either way, she thought you guys where new and would pay that outrageous amount.

DJ FourMoney
03-08-09, 08:24
Errr FJL,
"I'm guessing you and your friend must have looked like unknowing white american tourists" ....
might be a neat trick, eh, DJ?

Nope I'm Black (I know you knew that) and he's Black too, just never had to pay for pussy, made him nervous. He's from suburbia, but hearing all those negatives about cartel attacks on the news must have spooked him.

Not that I'm a ghetto child by any means, its just people with little money don't scare me. They can be more fun that people with money....

I was saying that FJL with tongue firmly planted in cheek. I have known many "White" appearing Mexicans since Jr High School. Its not that I didn't expect that, but many pictures seem to be of Morena looking chicas. THAT must be a "unknowing white american tourist thing", just like my dog Rob who the White girls just love, he won't have anything to do with them and dates Latinas and Black women, go figure.

DJ FourMoney
03-08-09, 08:35
I preffer natural women too. I don't care for stick figure women like they tend to praise here in the states.

And yes those where Mexican women. Honestly not your average Mexican girls but they are of Mexican decent. The true Mexican's where Indians and darker in color usually short. And sadly most American's stereotypically believe that Mexican's come only in this variation. But not so. When spaniards came and took over, some of them took Mexican wives and had mixed children. This is usually where some of the fairer skin Mexican's come from.

Nice Report DJ. I've seen you post many times. Surprised to find out it's your first time venturing into TJ. That other girl was crazy for wanting to charge $150 for a private booth. I'm guessing you and your friend must have looked like unknowing white american tourists and she was hoping you'd take the bait. Although, you should really learn spanish. It's helps you're cause a lot.

CadetPerv is right. You don't need a tour guide. The map points out the location of the Zona. It's only two blocks in size. Once there you don't even need the map anymore as all the clubs are practically next to each other.

For taxi's, when you first enter Tj take the the ones standing outside of the turnstyles. Just tell them where you need to go. And as Perv said, if you want to prevent being hassled by the taxi guy then ask him to drop you off at the arc. He won't know that you're heading to the clubs and won't try to take you somewhere else. The arc is very close walking distance to the Zona Norte. Like one block.

To leave the Zona norte, I recommend the taxi's in front of AB. I've taken those with no problems. All rides back and forth from the zona to the border should not be more than $5 bucks. Anyone tries to charge you more, simply walk away and try the next guy. Last time I went, the taxi's guys where desperate for riders.

You spent a lot of money like many people do on their first trips. It's okay. But now that you got a better feel for the place, you should be able to go straight for what you are there to do and not spend extra money for unnecesities.

Also perhaps you should befriend a girl you like and make her your regular. That's usually when they open up.

Night time is better since there is a wider selection and when the hotter women tend to arrive. But there is also more guys, competition and crowds.

You have NO idea how much I would like to find a "regular" girl that looked good in anything she wore and even if she didn't speak much English, so what she can't come to America in most cases anyway and I would love to see more of Mexico, would be great to have a travel companion that also served as my "girlfriend" and would "hook me up" accordingly.

I'm not quite as experienced as you think. I went to Germany did the FKK thing, mongered once in the LA area just to make sure the plumbing was working. It was, but I found out I need some pep me up, my weapon of choice is now Cialis....

Thanks for the compliment

DJ FourMoney
03-08-09, 08:45
I've been to Tijuana a few times. Usually, I'm not too impressed. After Asia and South America the value and service just wasn't there. If it weren't for the tacos, I don't know if I would have returned. But I was in San Diego so figured might as well get some. Tacos that is.

I got to the border around 11pm. I had a taxi bring me to change my money in the city, got a little over 14 to the dollar. At the Cambio, I got out and changed 200 dollars. Got back in the cab and the car didn't start. Had a wierd feeling. Paranoid, standing outside, downtown with a cab that suddenly didn't start after me having changed a bunch of dollars. He wanted to wait for this his "friend", we did for about 20 minutes and then I asked another motorist if he could jump us. He did and we were on our way.

Driver asked where to, I said zona roja, he said I should go to a strip club on Revolucion. I said to the arc and on the way, the car stalls, dead. He pulls in to a club on Revolucion as if dropping me off. I end up pushing the car with some locals out of the road and hand him 5 bucks for getting me part way. Of course he demands 10 dollars since he took me to the Cambio. I was at the far end of Revolucion, I figured 5 bucks was enough considering the situation, if not too much and walked the 8 or so blocks to the arc.

Jumping ahead, there were a few girls at Adelita that were possibilities, for me the spinner type. One hung out with the dancers. Girls I think only go for certain customers, typically Asian and for a lot of money, so I bypassed her after seeing her snub guys left and right, myself included. Another girl, didn't drink alcohol when I bought her a drink. Bad sign for me, I like to have a few drinks and loosen the girl up, see if she will be fun or mechanical as usual. I ended up with the 3rd and final of the three possibilities.

I talked to her for a while. I left and came back after circling the alley, it was pretty slim this night, last Friday. I went back and talked to the same girl. She had mentioned she was leaving for the night in a couple hours. I asked if she ever hung out with customers outside Adelitas. She had to clarify if I was willing to pay or I just expected some free companionship. I asked if she knew of a nice hotel, I'd been to the Nelson and wanted something nicer. She knew of a place she said was nice and only 35 bucks. I suggested she show me where it was and hang out for a while.

She met me down the street and drove me to a hotel called The Mansion. Let me stop here and say, this girl was not typical. She spoke almost perfect englsih, had lived in the states for a while with an American boyfriend. She had a pretty nice car and seemed. Unusual for Adelitas. The place she took me to was about 10 minutes away and was a real nice place. Very new constuction, granite floors, big walk in shower and large tub, nice king size bed, 42 inch flat screen and 3 channels of porn. Oh, and a big mirror beside the bed.

She showered, we had a couple drinks, started watching porn and got naked. She is in her later 20's but a real nice body. I played with her T and A and she started with a CBJ while we watched porn and I watched her in the mirror. She got on top and then me behind. Who ever placed that mirror measured perfectly. I finished pretty quick, 10 minutes or so. We had a cigarette and another drink. Then repeated the process. The combination of her english, the nice place, tv, porn, mirror and her attitude, made this the best Tijuana experience, almost to good to believe. I lasted a little longer this time, multiple positions and CBJ, played with her arse in RCG and finished behind her. She had a real nice body, around 110 lbs, great little round arse. We fell asleep and woke around 11am.

She said she had to get going and asked if I wanted a little more. I was shocked but not too shocked to say yes. One more round, and off she went. I paid her what I had left in pesos, 1600, 1800, somewhere around there. I slept a little longer, showered, brushed my teeth, (the hotel had a complimentary tooth brush) and caught a cab to the border. 5 bucks later I was getting a taco lunch before crossing back to San Diego.

I paid 35 bucks for a real nice hotel and paid her what 2 sessions would have been at Adelitas. I had the comfort of what would be considered a nice 4 star hotel, drinks, privacy and this girls full attention all night and morning. A total gfe. Pretty rare in my experience in Mexico. I did tell her I was in town for a while and I think the possibility of repeat service assists in attitude but what ever the reason, it was a great experience. Far better then 15 minutes in a dirty, uncomfortable room. If I am to return, knowing this, I will not settle for those 15 minutes again. More is definately possible.

I wasn't harrased by anyone, although I have been before. Just the occasional "whatchya lookin for, " or "hey, remember me, " my experience is don't talk to anyone you don't know. It's only caused problems for me. As far as tacos, for 1 dollar, the stand next to Chicago Club gives you a huge one. Almost twice the size of the other stands. I could only eat 2. Until a couple hours passed by, then I tried the stand at the other end of the street. It was good too just smaller. I do love those things. Enjoy.

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Nice report though I would hold back on calling it GFE. Because unless you're one of those people that freak out about getting gems or something; I have never, ever had a real girlfriend and now until last night provider give me a blow job covered and its not even on my "To Do List" usually.

Otherwise I'll have to check out this hotel you stayed at, sounds like the hook up!

Ewclark77
03-08-09, 19:41
Nice report though I would hold back on calling it GFE. Because unless you're one of those people that freak out about getting gems or something; I have never, ever had a real girlfriend and now until last night provider give me a blow job covered and its not even on my "To Do List" usually.

Otherwise I'll have to check out this hotel you stayed at, sounds like the hook up!La Mansion seems to be the hotel of choice for the Tijuana Escort community. Here is a link to an advertisement on YouTube, if you're interested.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP16Bu3FeDQ

Efjayel
03-08-09, 23:15
You have NO idea how much I would like to find a "regular" girl that looked good in anything she wore and even if she didn't speak much English, so what she can't come to America in most cases anyway and I would love to see more of Mexico, would be great to have a travel companion that also served as my "girlfriend" and would "hook me up" accordingly.

Thanks for the compliment


I met a girl in AB that said she lived in L.A. but came down to work in Tj. I talked to her for a bit and she mentioned that she's mostly lonely when she's in L.A. So I told her I'd hang out with her when she returns just as friends. But she insisted it should be to become boyfriend, girlfriend. Took me a bit by surprise so I laughed and said, "Sure okay!" I gave her my number and told her to contact me when she returns. She never did. Not surprised. I met her a few times before but I've never been upstairs with her before.

Efjayel
03-08-09, 23:22
As far as tacos, for 1 dollar, the stand next to Chicago Club gives you a huge one. Almost twice the size of the other stands. I could only eat 2. Until a couple hours passed by, then I tried the stand at the other end of the street. It was good too just smaller. I do love those things. Enjoy.

I only tried that taco stand once. And it was less than what I expected. A lot of people like it but I found their tacos to be small and not much flavor. I preffer the ones on the corner of Coahuila and Niños Heroes. Exit AB and make a left. Those are bigger and have more flavor. But for the best tacos try the Awesome fish taco stand as pointed out on my map. Those are huge, taste superb and are cheap. It's a block off the strip but its pretty popular amongst the locals as there's always a small crowd.

DJ FourMoney
03-09-09, 09:23
Okay -

After the minor disappointment of this past weekend, I am looking forward to returning to improve upon things.

I am thinking of coming down early afternoon, staying overnight and returning later the next day.

I am still looking at rooms and locations, so nothing solid yet.

Questions -

a) Do you think its possible to get TLN from a BG? After thinking about what happen, I feel the challenge in TJ is getting GFE/PSE from SG or BG, when its expected from escorts but at a much higher expense.

What are the keys?

b) What is the best place for this?

Would say 2000ps do it? (at current exchange of 14.5 to 1 = $130-/+) for a BG?

Sgt Perv
03-09-09, 10:38
Make sure your hotel is girl friendly and sort of close.

I have always had great luck with the alley girls for 1000 peso or so during the weekdays.

Weekdays are easier then weekends.

I walk around the alley and smile. I let them get used to seeing me and that I am not a threat. I make small talk with them or even buy them a taco just to get a vibe. Sometimes I do a quick sample with them to get a better view/feel of the body (250 pesos or 16 dollars).

For less than $20 US you know all you need to know to make a deal.

I will leave then come back and ask them about TLN when they get off work. They always ask which hotel. They know which are girl friendly and I am sure a better hotel is a bonus for them.

I do tell them which hotel but never the room number.

We agree on a time and place in the zona to meet. From there we go eat (bonus for them) and to the room.

Once in the room it is shower/spa time.

While waiting for them to get off work, I enjoy the rest of the zona in a more relaxed matter.

I do look around for back up chicas in case the first falls apart.

Weekends with bar girls would really be expensive because of all the business.

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Efjayel
03-09-09, 11:22
You can try a bar girl for an all nighter but personally I wouldn't do it unless I've repeated with her plenty of times and she's already in the habit of some small form of GFE and both of your are comfortable with seeing each other.

Otherwise, good luck...

Country John
03-09-09, 19:00
I like this strategy.

I would suggest checking out the slower bars for a good candidate. Take Chicago Club for example; business has been slow there and the girls might be more receptive to a single lay payday than a night of slow happenings.

Also, shift changes take place around 8PM. Take a girl off the day shift rather than waiting half the night for her to get off at 3 or so when you and she might be tired. By 9 or 10, she would be ready for a hot shower and some time under the sheets.

If she has kids, a babysitter or a husband, she won't stay all night. So clear that up BEFORE you take her. Find out what her definition of a tln is. Some say it's 5 hours, some want to leave at sun-up etc.

Most hotels close to the Zona are chica friendly, unless you take a walker who might already be know to the hotel security people as trouble.

Whomever you take, make sure you secure your stuff.

Country John


Make sure your hotel is girl friendly and sort of close.

I have always had great luck with the alley girls for 1000 peso or so during the weekdays.

Weekdays are easier then weekends.

I walk around the alley and smile. I let them get used to seeing me and that I am not a threat. I make small talk with them or even buy them a taco just to get a vibe. Sometimes I do a quick sample with them to get a better view/feel of the body (250 pesos or 16 dollars).

For less than $20 US you know all you need to know to make a deal.

I will leave then come back and ask them about TLN when they get off work. They always ask which hotel. They know which are girl friendly and I am sure a better hotel is a bonus for them.

I do tell them which hotel but never the room number.

We agree on a time and place in the zona to meet. From there we go eat (bonus for them) and to the room.

Once in the room it is shower/spa time.

While waiting for them to get off work, I enjoy the rest of the zona in a more relaxed matter.

I do look around for back up chicas in case the first falls apart.

Weekends with bar girls would really be expensive because of all the business.

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DJ FourMoney
03-09-09, 20:11
Thanks for the feedback....

Perv likes Street Girls and I haven't seen any yet. On another forum I found some SG pictures and a few are "doable", but I'm sure English is a non-starter???

I think another long visit is in order but maybe not TLN yet because like EFJ said building rapport with the ladies is the key to GFE.

Perv, I had the same idea you did, though I'm sure its not new... Sample the goods. I thought about this inside AB but the first girl didn't speak enough English to get a good vibe for GFE. She did like me enough to screw me however. I hope I can find somebody like the last girl but better looking and no kids, she spoke English surprisingly well which actually isn't that surprising as the Latinas I come in contact with make an effort to learn/speak English and while I'm not generalizing, all to often at work I'm speaking to the woman/girl or the kids and not the bf or husband....

I'm ready for Round 2, but the very next visit might be on the cheap...

The shift change is at 8pm? Does this cover all the clubs?

DJ FourMoney
03-09-09, 20:40
I like this strategy.

I would suggest checking out the slower bars for a good candidate. Take Chicago Club for example; business has been slow there and the girls might be more receptive to a single lay payday than a night of slow happenings.

Also, shift changes take place around 8PM. Take a girl off the day shift rather than waiting half the night for her to get off at 3 or so when you and she might be tired. By 9 or 10, she would be ready for a hot shower and some time under the sheets.

If she has kids, a babysitter or a husband, she won't stay all night. So clear that up BEFORE you take her. Find out what her definition of a tln is. Some say it's 5 hours, some want to leave at sun-up etc.

Most hotels close to the Zona are chica friendly, unless you take a walker who might already be know to the hotel security people as trouble.

Whomever you take, make sure you secure your stuff.

Country John

La Mansion looks like a good choice... Any others?

Sgt Perv
03-09-09, 20:46
I have found a better chance of GFE from the SG.

I have tried many girls from the popular clubs but it feels so professional.

I used to enjoy CC the most during its hayday.

HK is great for shows and AB has the hotties but , I have limited Spanish, I have found alley chicas the most grateful for their money on a overnighter.

Being grateful ,leads to more of a GFE.

Club chicas are already making the big pesos and are not as grateful.

As always YMMV but what has worked for me is Alley chicas for overnight and sampling to knock the edge off.

Club girls for trophy short time.

Surfnk9
03-09-09, 22:04
Getting a better experience is a combination of relationship and consistency. No not a real girlfriend relationship mind you. The gals like consistency. The better they know you the more at ease they feel.
The relationship starts by treating them like a person, not just a sex object. Funny as it sounds, that’s what they put themselves out there as and that’s what we go for, sex. But I have found that when you talk to them about their family, their hometown, their friends, and what they like to do outside “work”, they are more giving in their service.
Look at the reality of it all; it’s not the type of job they enjoy. For the most part, the better I make them feel the better they make me feel. If you find a gal you really like and you make it a point to see her on a consistent basis, and she likes you, she’ll do you right.
It’s a matter of trial and error, and nothing is a sure bet but that makes the hunt more exciting.

DJ FourMoney
03-10-09, 03:14
Getting a better experience is a combination of relationship and consistency. No not a real girlfriend relationship mind you. The gals like consistency. The better they know you the more at ease they feel.
The relationship starts by treating them like a person, not just a sex object. Funny as it sounds, that’s what they put themselves out there as and that’s what we go for, sex. But I have found that when you talk to them about their family, their hometown, their friends, and what they like to do outside “work”, they are more giving in their service.
Look at the reality of it all; it’s not the type of job they enjoy. For the most part, the better I make them feel the better they make me feel. If you find a gal you really like and you make it a point to see her on a consistent basis, and she likes you, she’ll do you right.
It’s a matter of trial and error, and nothing is a sure bet but that makes the hunt more exciting.

I agree.

Since I only went to three places, stayed more than an hour at only two and went up with only two, my experience is very limited. I will go down again soon, as early as next week, maybe.

Thanks for the advice.

Phordphan
03-10-09, 06:55
Getting a better experience is a combination of relationship and consistency. No not a real girlfriend relationship mind you. The gals like consistency. The better they know you the more at ease they feel.
The relationship starts by treating them like a person, not just a sex object. Funny as it sounds, that’s what they put themselves out there as and that’s what we go for, sex. But I have found that when you talk to them about their family, their hometown, their friends, and what they like to do outside “work”, they are more giving in their service.
Look at the reality of it all; it’s not the type of job they enjoy. For the most part, the better I make them feel the better they make me feel. If you find a gal you really like and you make it a point to see her on a consistent basis, and she likes you, she’ll do you right.
It’s a matter of trial and error, and nothing is a sure bet but that makes the hunt more exciting.

Well put. So many times I've had girls tell me that they liked me cuz I didn't treat them like a bar girl. If you show a little interest in them and a little consideration it tends to pay off in spades. Not 100% of the time, but often enough.

Locoaztec14
03-10-09, 07:12
Anybody have any recommendations for parking overnight on USA side?

Are the parking lots near the linea "safe" for overnight parking?

DJ FourMoney
03-10-09, 08:18
Well put. So many times I've had girls tell me that they liked me cuz I didn't treat them like a bar girl. If you show a little interest in them and a little consideration it tends to pay off in spades. Not 100% of the time, but often enough.

I totally agree and this is apart of the Morality of Prostitution thread on a regular basis if you have seen it.

I don't want to make too much of my first experiences, I need more of them.

I would have went today (Monday) however I feel most chicas take Mon-Tues off since business tends to be low, my next day off is Wed, which makes no sense. So I believe I will wait until next week as this Friday is payday.

I got delayed last time and my wingman dictated alot of where I went, including stopping at some Rasta shop run by some locals who were apart of a band with some kids from San Diego.

I'm still considering if I can stay overnight and not exceed my budget, because roughly one night in one of the better hotels cost the same as a 30 min session at AB, so I'm weighing that now.

Phordphan
03-10-09, 16:11
I'm still considering if I can stay overnight and not exceed my budget, because roughly one night in one of the better hotels cost the same as a 30 min session at AB, so I'm weighing that now.

Stay at a mid-range place. I've stayed at the Espana many times. 350 pesos Sun - Thu, 400 or 450 pesos on Fri/Sat. Very clean, A/C and heat, current remodel. Beds, unfortunately, are doubles, and not a queen or king. On Revu between 3rd and 4th?? Across from Sanborn's.

Socal Pimp
03-10-09, 18:12
Well put. So many times I've had girls tell me that they liked me cuz I didn't treat them like a bar girl. If you show a little interest in them and a little consideration it tends to pay off in spades. Not 100% of the time, but often enough.I don't care about them hos, as long as I get my nut.

Cobra Comander
03-10-09, 23:09
I don't care about them hos, as long as I get my nut.

And some people wonder why they get routine, mechanical and lousy service.


CC

Sgt Perv
03-10-09, 23:37
I don't care about them hos, as long as I get my nut.Guys like you make it hard on the rest of us.

Treating them respectfully as you would a girlfriend , should come natural.

The more natural and relaxed you act around them , the more natural and relaxed they will act around you.

Treat them like a ho and they, as they should, will treat you like a bad customer.
If it takes treating the chicas or anybody like garbage to make you feel macho, you have some serious issues.

Taking the time to learn about a person and their culture will only make you a better person.

When I ask a chica for a TLN I do not want to spend the entire time in a room (why be in TJ) so I offer food or entertainment (mostly outside the zona).

I ,for one, can not f*ck 8 hours straight.

She is my tour guide as long as I feel safe (bonus for me).

So I have a tour guide and chica for the same price. ;)

Phordphan
03-11-09, 05:03
I don't care about them hos, as long as I get my nut.

Nice. Your very first post and you come off sounding like a complete jerk. Congrats.

ThatGuy865
03-11-09, 17:31
I don't care about them hos, as long as I get my nut.Social Pimp thats the bottom line, especially in T.J.

99% of those babes are straight up and down hoes.

Get yours, because that's what you pay for.

Socal Pimp
03-12-09, 06:44
Guys like you make it hard on the rest of us.

Treating them respectfully as you would a girlfriend , should come natural.

The more natural and relaxed you act around them , the more natural and relaxed they will act around you.

Treat them like a ho and they, as they should, will treat you like a bad customer.
If it takes treating the chicas or anybody like garbage to make you feel macho, you have some serious issues.

Taking the time to learn about a person and their culture will only make you a better person.

When I ask a chica for a TLN I do not want to spend the entire time in a room (why be in TJ) so I offer food or entertainment (mostly outside the zona).

I ,for one, can not f*ck 8 hours straight.

She is my tour guide as long as I feel safe (bonus for me).

So I have a tour guide and chica for the same price. ;)Your freaking crazy if you think Im gonna treat a bar ho like my girlfriend or wife! I know enough about that culture from eating at Taco Bell and watching the Narco Wars on the news.

No Thanks.

Country John
03-12-09, 18:06
If all you are interested in is getting your nut and then moving on, then you should stay at home and fuck the wife because that's what most of you who are married are getting now anyway. That's why you are going to the Zona. Let's be honest for a second (or two).

The true Sportfuckerman gets much more out of the hobby than the sexually bankrupt and he is usually satisfied in more than one way after a well planned session with a pretty girl.

It takes absolutely no skills whatsoever to hand money to a girl in exchange for sex. None. Zip. Zero. That's true. If all you are interested in is a nut then you could save substantial amounts of money by just rubbing it out. Why have a ho on the end of it at all?

This hobby has a much broader spectrum than you think. From the cold "industrial sex" to the GFE, there is a lot to be experienced in between. Whatever you choose, there is never any excuse to be disrespectful. BUt that's just my opinion.

Be safe and be nice
Country John

Socal Pimp
03-12-09, 18:12
If all you are interested in is getting your nut and then moving on, then you should stay at home and fuck the wife because that's what most of you who are married are getting now anyway. That's why you are going to the Zona. Let's be honest for a second (or two).

The true Sportfuckerman gets much more out of the hobby than the sexually bankrupt and he is usually satisfied in more than one way after a well planned session with a pretty girl.

It takes absolutely no skills whatsoever to hand money to a girl in exchange for sex. None. Zip. Zero. That's true. If all you are interested in is a nut then you could save substantial amounts of money by just rubbing it out. Why have a ho on the end of it at all?

This hobby has a much broader spectrum than you think. From the cold "industrial sex" to the GFE, there is a lot to be experienced in between. Whatever you choose, there is never any excuse to be disrespectful. BUt that's just my opinion.

Be safe and be nice

Country JohnOf course I don't call the ho a ho to her grill. I treat her with all due respect, but as far as a GFE experience, I don't need that. If your a lonely dude and want that thats fine with me. But I think that the majority of guys who are there are in it just for the nut, not for GFE or to talk the night away with them.

I meant no disrespect to you guys as I love reading these forums and your stories.

Efjayel
03-12-09, 21:30
Your freaking crazy if you think Im gonna treat a bar ho like my girlfriend or wife! I know enough about that culture from eating at Taco Bell and watching the Narco Wars on the news.

No Thanks.


Right, because Taco Bell(a fast food american ran corporate conglomerate with food that taste like crap) is a true representation of Mexico and it's women.


If you don't want to treat these women with respect and just get your nut off as you say, then go ahead. I'm sure some of them like their quick buck no hassles customer that serve only to help pay their bills. On the other hand I'll look even better to them when I don't treat them like trash and make them feel like they matter.

Sgt Perv
03-13-09, 01:31
Your freaking crazy if you think Im gonna treat a bar ho like my girlfriend or wife! I know enough about that culture from eating at Taco Bell and watching the Narco Wars on the news.

No Thanks.Congratulations!

If you were trying to come across as a immature, ghetto mentality racist with very little monger experience. You nailed it.

SDcruiser
03-13-09, 13:13
Please stop responding to his posts. He is a troll. Why give him a stage? He will go away. I've met angry mongers in the zone with the same mentality. I walk away from their hyprocritical banter about how they feel about the girls. We know that if you are decent to the girls they are decent to you.

Back to mongering. SDC.

Socal Pimp
03-14-09, 04:06
Please stop responding to his posts. He is a troll. Why give him a stage? He will go away. I've met angry mongers in the zone with the same mentality. I walk away from their hyprocritical banter about how they feel about the girls. We know that if you are decent to the girls they are decent to you.

Back to mongering. SDC.I'm not an angry monger, or a troll. Im a fan of this site and its posts. I have a dry sense of humor and can be taken too seriously. I guess nobody here is a fan.

Efjayel
03-14-09, 10:23
Fan of what, bad humor?

Your beliefs are your own. If you only need these women to get off so be it. Just don't disrespect them. For some of us, these women are more than an easy lay. They are friends and women we respect regardless of how society views prostitution. They have feelings too. If you only want to fuck then treat them like soul-less objects then I suggest a blow up doll. Those don't have feelings. Anyone who does view prostitutes as having no heart would mean they are heartless themselves.

Socal Pimp
03-14-09, 15:43
Fan of what, bad humor?

Your beliefs are your own. If you only need these women to get off so be it. Just don't disrespect them. For some of us, these women are more than an easy lay. They are friends and women we respect regardless of how society views prostitution. They have feelings too. If you only want to fuck then treat them like soul-less objects then I suggest a blow up doll. Those don't have feelings. Anyone who does view prostitutes as having no heart would mean they are heartless themselves.Hah! You respect a ho? You seriously are a soft touch.

Efjayel
03-14-09, 20:28
Hah! You respect a ho? You seriously are a soft touch.


You're right, that does make me a despicable waste of a human being doesn't it?

Pablito Diablito
03-15-09, 07:51
Hah! You respect a ho? You seriously are a soft touch.I get the impression that we would also refer to most girls as hoes, which makes me think that we are harboring some unresolved animosity towards women in general. Why don't you share with the group and tell us a little bit about your mother?

Respect is a subjective term. Why are you so bent out of shape that someone would be courteous to a prostitute?

BTW, screen name Socal Pimp? How f@#cking cliché is that? Have you really been to the zona, or are you taking it strait out of some Tupac video?

Depeche Mode
03-15-09, 11:09
Hey guys!

Real short report as I'm real sleepy and wanna get this report out while its still fresh. Date of Trip: 03/14/09 arrived at the border at 8:30pm

So after 4 months in hiatus, my buddy and I decide to head on down to Tijuana with a co worker from New York. We arrived at around 8:30pm, parked and walked over to where the gate is usually open. Its not. We are like wtf. We pay a cab to take us to the other side of the bridge. We get to the turnstyle side to be greeted by an enormous line! I later found out this line was so huge because the turnstyle was broken. We wait inline for about 15 minutes.

Once in Mexico we take a cab to Adelitas. My friend talks to the taxi driver, who brings up several good points. He laughs at how American TV tells all the Americans that theres so much death and killing going on. He also mentions that they are probably just trying to keep Americans from spending there money in Mexico instead of the good ol United States! I digress.

We arrive at Adelitas. I, of course, am on my infamous sex fasts (5 days). So once in there I go bonkers, I walk the circle looking for my prey. My buddies say they are heading to Hong Kong and to meet them there (I feel WAY better in Adelitas alone for some reason). I do a half circle before I find my chick. Black hair big boobs and a nice thick butt. We go upstaris. Hmmm sex was as mechanical as usual, I really don’t give a shit, shes hot and that’s good enough for me. I give her a 9. 5/10, well on looks at least.

I walk over to Hong Kong. Find my friends quickly up stairs. They drink there cold ones while I take in the Mexican chicas. My favorite was not there! She has a ridiculous butt, so big. They finish there drinks and my buddy was like lets go to mermaids.

We arrive at Mermaids, they do the usual, escort us upstairs. There the ladies line up. The one chick that I have been waiting 4 months to see again. Was not there! Its possible that she was downstairs or busy. Fuck I was like. LOL I liked this part of the conversation when selecting our ladies:

My friend: I'll take the first one.

Me: I'll take the last one.

So we pay the 40 bucks to the host. Then go to the rooms with our ladies. I tell her that I don’t want to fuck, I just wanted a massage. She of course looked at me all crazily. I disrobe and she starts to massage, pretty legit, it actually kinda hurt. We talk she likes my piercing and tattoos. She explains to me the money procedure: 40 bucks to the host this covers the massage and room.

Any thing the lady gets out of the client is her minus 10 bucks that she must give to the guy that brought in the work (he will be on the street and tell you how good mermaids is, real obnoxious).

If the client only wants a massage, the girl is screwed cause she has to still give 10 bucks to that douche bag.

I eventually recharge and tell her lets fuck. We do a little DFK. Fuck for a bit, I could not finish easily because of the first Adelitas fuck. But, LOL, 30 minutes later I finally came. Walked out my buddies are waiting for me. They tell me that they quoted a fuck for my white New York friend at 400 dollars! WOW. He got her back down to 60. We leave because he has to catch a plane back to New York at 6am.

We take a cab to the border. The border line is about 15 minutes long. They hassle my New York friend cause he only had ID. The guy did not even look at my Birth Certificate LOL. He did comment on my tattoos though. We leave at 1045PM and arrive back in L. A. At around 1am.

LOL I must say, all the locals we talked to, all were confused as to why we think theres a massacre going on there. All said everything is calm. All in all a very nice efficient trip. I wanted to fuck a total of 3 chicks, but whatever. I've also noticed, very excellent friendly service at Mermaids. I will def make that a routine stop from now on. All the girls I've been with there have always been so damn talkative.

Damages:
6 dollar taxi
60 dollar Adelitas girl
12 Room
1 dollar tip to the cum boy
40 massage at Mermaids
60 dollar girl at mermaids
15 dollar 130am Ihop breakfast
Total 194 Doll Hairs
Not bad, I was expecting to spend around 300.

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Locoaztec14
03-15-09, 20:57
Anyone been to TJ lately? Is their a good showing out at the alley? Might go within in a week or two.

Also, is it "safe" to leave car overnight at the USA border parking lots?

Surfnk9
03-15-09, 22:18
BTW, screen name Socal Pimp? How f@#cking cliché is that? Have you really been to the zona, or are you taking it strait out of some Tupac video?
No, it's from a Pauly Shore straight to video, circa '94

Mike Yepthatsm
03-16-09, 02:30
I have researched this site and can say the info on here is great. I spent the past week in San Diego at a conference and decided to visit tijuana. I decided to visit during the day as I wasnt sure if I would be comfortable going there by myself at night. I have been to Cancun, playa del carmen, puerto vallarta, mazatlan, and acapulco before so I am no stranger to mexico.

I was staying at a hotel in downtown San Diego and left at about 11 am, not knowing how long it would take to get across the border. It was about a 15 min drive to the border. I parked at the lot behind Jack in the Box as suggested by many on this site. It was 5 bucks for 8 hours I think. The walk from my car, over the bridge, and through the turnstyles took only 5-10 minutes. I didn't really know where to go, but followed the crowd. It was a little interesting seeing the two officers wearing bullet proof vests, ski masks, and carrying machine guns just as you crossed the border. One of them saw me looking at them and just nodded to me.

As soon as you enter mexico, there are cabs everywhere. I had one take me to adelitas. I got out of the cab and immediately entered the club. I was a little disappointed as there was only about 10 girls there. Most where not that great looking. I sat there for about 10-15 minutes when I was approached by the best looking one in the club. She had a nice thick ass, huge fake breasts and a decent face (sorry I don't remember her name). She asked if I wanted to go upstairs. She asked for 40 bucks and said that included BBBJ and cfs for 1/2 hour. We went upstairs and I paid the 12 buck hotel fee. The BBBJ was good (not great), but the doggy was quite good. When I finished I decided to walk over to HK. Hong Kong is only a few clubs away from adelitas. Walk out of adelitas and turn left. It is a few clubs down on the same side of the road from adelitas.

Upon entering HK I was a again disappointed. Not many girls were there, and again they werent that great looking. After a while I decided to walk around for a bit and check out the street ladies. They are everywhere. They are lined up along the walls of the various clubs and businesses along several different streets. From a distance, most looked hot as hell. Most are wearing school girl outfits or "stripper" outfits. Up close the girls ranged from fugly to cute. None that I would call hot. There were several that had knockout bodies though. After walking around some more, and checking out other clubs (which were pretty dead by the way) I decided to go back to adelitas. When I returned, I was amazed at how busy it was. I didn't realize Tijuana is an hour behind San Diego. That explains why the place was dead when I first arrived. Now there was 20+ ladies working. Several where hot as fuck. Lots of petite ladies with large fake breasts, tight asses, and pretty faces. I decided to leave, but planned to return the next day.

I took another 5 buck cab ride to the border. I followed the crowd and got in line to enter back into the us. The line was very long, but moved quickly. It took about 15 minutes or so. I'm guessing it was around 5 pm. No hassle from the border guard. I had my drivers license and birth certificate.

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Mike Yepthatsm
03-16-09, 02:56
well i couldn't sleep and kept thinking about all the hot ladies at adelitas so i decided to go back to tijuana (i was there about 6 hours earlier). again i crossed the border and took a cab to adelitas. i arrived at about midnight. when we got close to the zona norte area, i immediately noticed there was a lot more police. there was also not as many people walking the streets as there were during the day. in fact the streets were almost dead except around the taco stands, in front of the clubs, and all the street ladies.

i sat down and admired the view of the ladies. i had my eye on this cute little blond with an amazing body. again i can't remember her name. she was about 5'2", 100 pounds, tight little ass, and nice store bought see cups. she saw me checking her out and eventually came and sat with me. she was wearing black mesh panties, a black see thru mesh top and had pasties in the shape of x's on her nipples. she asked if i would buy her a drink. i think it was 7 bucks. the waiter brought her a drink and handed her a little piece of paper/ ticket. each time they got one of us to buy them a drink, they got a ticket. after some small talk, we went upstairs. she was so damn hot, i didn't bother to ask how much, or what was included. again i went upstairs and paid the 12 buck hotel room fee for 1/2 hour. i gave her 60 bucks.

i undressed and she excused herself to the restroom. i looked over and noticed her squating over the toilet peeing, but not sitting on the toilet. she then came over to the bed and also undressed. she then wiped my dick with some toilet paper. i'm not sure what she thought that would do, but oh well. i then tried to kiss her, she turned away so i only kissed her cheek. i then tried to touch her pussy and was blocked by her hand. she told me to lay down and started to give me a cbj. after ony about a minute she climbed on top of me. the whole time she was reaching down holding the condom in place (she must have been scared it would break or fall off). from there she wanted to do mish position. she basically just laid there, and continued to hold the condom while i fucked her. she was very cold and mechanical. if i had a magazine, i would have given it to her to keep her entertained while i fucked her. after only a few minutes of fucking her, she was already asking me to hurry. i eventually finished with a hand job (but she required that the condom stay on). she had a little bag with lube, condoms, and listerine that was given to her by the hotel clerk when i paid for the room. she scrubbed her hands and used the mouthwash, but didn't bother to clean her pussy. she just wiped it with a piece of toilet paper. for being such a germaphobe, i couldn't believe she didn't take a shower or at least clean her pussy with at least soap and water.

despite the fact that she was hot as fuck, she was a horrible lay.

from there i decided to call it a day and head back to the us. oh well, i paid a lot more for worse in the us.

Mike Yepthatsm
03-16-09, 03:31
Now that I was comfortable with the layout of the area I decided to head back to Tijuana. It was about 8 or 9 at night. I decided to go to HK first. Again I was a little disappointed. The ladies were different than the ones at adelitas. For the most part, the ladies had natural breasts. I didn't think they had as high of caliber ladies that adelitas did. Don't get me wrong, there were a few lookers but nothing that made me want to stay. From there I decided to walk around and check out some other clubs. Chicago club was dead. Only 3 or 4 customers and a few ladies (none worth staying for). I then walked the streets and check out the street ladies. There was one with a smoking hot body that stopped me and asked if I was interested. For 20 bucks I couldn't resist. She had an ok face, but a great body. She was tiny (maybe 100 pounds) and had nice firm perky be cup breasts. She started to undress first. As soon as she undressed there was a horrible odor that filled the room. It smelled like tuna and onions. I seriously thought I was going to get sick. I told her I'm too nervous, gave her 20 bucks and left.

From there I decided to continue to check out some other places. Just as I was leaving this short little mexican dude started following me asking me to check out mermaids, and purple rain (I think it was called). I politely declined, but he kept following me. He then told me his sob story how he was deported and he only gets paid on commision. I finally gave him 1 buck and told him to leave me alone. He finally left.

I eventually ended up back at adelitas. This time I was approached but this long black haired beauty wearing a skin tight black dress. She had the most amazing j lo ass, and her tits were spilling out of her dress. She sat down and I bought her a drink. I found out she has 1 kid and is from guadalahara (damn I wish I remembered her name). She too asked if I wanted to go upstairs. Once upstairs, I gave her 60 bucks and she undressed me and herself. She too didn't kiss, except for a light peck on the lips. She had the largest, firmest, natural breasts on anybody I have seen who is as petite as her. She took my face and burried it in her breasts. She then laid me back and put a condom on me with her mouth. After a few minutes of great cbj (which normally I hate cbj) she climbed on top. Watching those large tits bounce up and down were quite the site. From there we moved to doggy. I could barely hold it in, but she asked me to cum on her tits. She took off the condom and gave me a hand job until I came on her tits. When we were finished she sat on the counter and scrubbed her pussy in the sink. We then got dressed and sat and chatted for a few minutes then headed back downstairs.

I was getting hungry so I decided to leave and get some food from one of the street venders. As I was walking down the road (not the one adelitas is on, but the one chicago club is on) a police van stopped and two officers got out. One came up to me and the other one stayed back and didn't say anything. The cop said something to me in spanish. I told him no comprende. He then looked irritated with me and asked what I was doing. He then told me to get up against the van and spread my arms and legs. He asked if I had any drugs. I told him no. He then took my ID, credit card, and the 150 bucks out of my pockets. I left me wallet back in the US purposely. He then started asking me rediculous questions like my birthday, my address, what hotel in the US I was staying at. He then gave back my credit card and ID and said I was ok to leave. I then politely said he forgot to give back my money. He handed it to me and I walked away.

There was a cab driver sitting in his car close so I walked directly to him and got in. I asked him to bring me back to the border. He said he saw what they did. I told him what happened and he said some cops will do that hoping I leave and don't ask for the money back.

Up until that point I never once felt unsafe. I always walked as if I knew exactly where I was going (even if I had no clue). I was always aware of my surroundings. That incident with the police kink of freaked me out, because I was literally walking by myself, on a street with other people around and had not done anything to provoke the police.

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Mike Yepthatsm
03-16-09, 03:51
Despite the incident with the police, I decided to return for some more fun. This time I went during the day. I arrived at about 2 pm. I went to adelitas and watched the ladies dance for a little bit. I decided to check out HK once again.

When I walked in, one of the waiters immediately attached himself to me. I ordered a drink, then he asked what kind of lady I liked. I told him I was going to look around, but he decided to follow me. He then asked if I wanted to see the VIP room. I said ok. He first showed me the lap dance area. These were a buch of small booths that had a frosted glass door for privacy. The VIP room was much much larger, and had a couple of padded bench style seating, a table and also was private. The lap dances were 20 bucks in the regular area. To be in the VIP area you had to by the lady 10 drinks (I think they are 8 bucks a piece). I looked around (with the waiter at my side) and finally saw this young hotties dancing in the back. She was dressed in black shorts, a black corset over top of a white button down shirt. There were several other ladies wearing the same outfit (sash girl? ). Anyways the waiter got her and had her come sit with me. After attempting to talk to each other (she spoke little english and I speak little spanish), we went upstairs to the lap dance area. She gave me one dance, but did not undress and would not let me touch anything other than her ass and breasts. After one dance I told her a had to leave.

As I was walking out, the same waiter asked what was wrong. I told him I was looking for more action than what she was willing to give. He than again asked what I was looking for. I said simple; pretty face, huge breasts, small waist. He started laughing and told me to wait there. A few minutes later he returned with a very cute, young lady that had large natural breasts that were popping out of her shirt. I thanked him, tipped him 5 bucks then sat and talked to the lady he brought over. She was 26 years old, but looked 19 or 20. She was very cute. I bought her a drink. She then took my hand and placed it on her tit. She then started to kiss me. She eventually straddled me and started making out with me. It didn't take long and we were upstairs. I paid for the hotel room for 30 minutes (I think it was 15 bucks but I don't remember). There were alot of older asian men coming in and out of the hotel with ladies. I don't recall seeing any asian men in the club.

Anyways, once again I can't remember her name. This time the experience was off the charts. I could touch wherever I wanted. She kissed me very passionately. She gave an amazing and enthusiastic cbj. She attempted to deep throat me, but couldn't. But damn did she try. After muliple positions I finally ended up coming all over her chest.

Its a good thing I don't live near Tijuana or I could seriously become addicted.

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Phordphan
03-16-09, 16:33
Nice set of TRs. Thanks for posting.

You did pretty well for your first time. You found that the hotties at AB often give extremely poor service. The cops can often be complete assholes. Valuable lessons, all.

It's tough, but, IMHO, you should have told the stinky SG that she needed a doctor and not forked over $20. That's not a criticism, and it wouldn't be easy unless you spoke a bit of Spanish.

But it sounds like all went very well and that you had a good time. Congrats!

Surfnk9
03-16-09, 17:43
Great reports Curt. It looks as though you got a good variety of the TJ experience.
Unfortunately you have to be as wary of the cops as much as the criminals. What seems like stupid questions are cop’s way to determine if you are telling them the truth or not. The difference between TJ and the US is that here an inconsistent story here gets further investigation by law enforcement. There a suspicious story leads to having to pay them off with a bribe. Any American is a “valued target”.
There is no need to spend money for lap dances at HK. A couple ficha (ticket) drinks with the gal of your choice in a back booth should get a good feel of the goods. And if she’s good, she reciprocates.
The least the street hawkers are is annoying, the worst is dangerous. They are often in cahoots with the cops. The hawker starts to talk to you, the cops arrive and label him a known drug dealer; and then the shake-down begins. One technique I have used to get rid of them is to nip it in the bud. Before they can finish their first sentence I interrupt them with a firm, “No gracias, dejame”. de-ha-me (No thank you, leave me) I say it firmly but politely with an obvious disposition of displeasure. If needed repeat, this time alittle louder. If walking, keep walking don’t stop. If standing, say eating a taco at a stand; turn and step away, make it abrupt and obvious.
On the bright side you ended the trip on a high note. Just like Vegas, a taste of the good side will keep you coming back.
Ah grasshopper, you have done well monger-son

Efjayel
03-17-09, 21:21
Nice reports Curt. In the few days you visited Tj you went through most of the experiences that come with mongering Tj. You are now a true Tj monger, Congrats! lol





Its a good thing I don't live near Tijuana or I could seriously become addicted.


Same here. Even though you had some bad experiences you still keep coming back. There's just that something about Tj that can't really be explained. If I lived in San Diego I would go every week. Good thing I don't live in San Diego.


The street hawkers, I never talk or look at them. I simply ignore them and keep walking. They get the idea.

Cloude
03-21-09, 13:25
I'm coming in April with a buddy of mines and planning to visit for Tijuana for a few days. I've been wanting to visit Tijuana for a long time and have been reading the forum here off and on for a couple of years. Now finally I can visit this coming April and totally let loose as the scene in New England has been slow and not worth what you pay for a long time.

I have a lot of great info and a map (Thanks Efjayel) also, but would like to ask a few of questions. My buddy and I are planning to stay in Tijuana for 3-4 days, but we're not sure which hotel would be best. We want something within walking distance of the zone, but a decent place at a moderate price ($40-$50/night). I was thinking Hotel Nelson (Do they have safes?), but noticed a few other hotels on Efjayel's map (Hotel Ceasar and Hotel Lafayette). I wanted to know which hotel with a safe do you recommend.

Although mongering is the main reason we're on this trip, we might want to do other things like sight see. Is there anything worth checking out other than Ave Revolucion and is also safe? Or should we just head back into San Diego? Any good mp other than Mermaids? Doesn't have to always have HE to be good.

Last question is about the language. My Spanish is severly limited, but wanted to know certain phrases like CIM or Russian finish. The only ones I know of are arriba and con chupa (bj). I'm sure this will help with the streetgirls more than the ones in the club as they probably speak better english.

Thanks for all the great reports I've read in the past and thanks for all the great info as I'm sure this will help in a great time. It's been a long time since I last had some $ to monger with. Thanks again and good luck mongering.

Cloude

Belgrath
03-21-09, 18:40
HDS hotel del santiago is very close to the action. Hotel ticuan? on Revo is few blocks away but very nice though more like 50+ a night. Both are chica friendly.

Just dont rent any room at 'Hotel' Eduardo hehehe.

Phordphan
03-21-09, 18:52
I'm coming in April with a buddy of mines and planning to visit for Tijuana for a few days. I've been wanting to visit Tijuana for a long time and have been reading the forum here off and on for a couple of years. Now finally I can visit this coming April and totally let loose as the scene in New England has been slow and not worth what you pay for a long time.

I have a lot of great info and a map (Thanks Efjayel) also, but would like to ask a few of questions. My buddy and I are planning to stay in Tijuana for 3-4 days, but we're not sure which hotel would be best. We want something within walking distance of the zone, but a decent place at a moderate price ($40-$50/night). I was thinking Hotel Nelson (Do they have safes?), but noticed a few other hotels on Efjayel's map (Hotel Ceasar and Hotel Lafayette). I wanted to know which hotel with a safe do you recommend.

Although mongering is the main reason we're on this trip, we might want to do other things like sight see. Is there anything worth checking out other than Ave Revolucion and is also safe? Or should we just head back into San Diego? Any good mp other than Mermaids? Doesn't have to always have HE to be good.

Last question is about the language. My Spanish is severly limited, but wanted to know certain phrases like CIM or Russian finish. The only ones I know of are arriba and con chupa (bj). I'm sure this will help with the streetgirls more than the ones in the club as they probably speak better english.

Thanks for all the great reports I've read in the past and thanks for all the great info as I'm sure this will help in a great time. It's been a long time since I last had some $ to monger with. Thanks again and good luck mongering.

Cloude

Good questions.

I'll leave the Spanish slang for others more fluent.

If in-room safes aren't mandatory then you'll be OK staying close to the Zona. AFAIK, none of them have safes, and I've stayed in all of them. The only one *COULD* be Nelson, but my memory of that particular night is fuzzy! :) The only thing that stands out is my favorita puking her guts out all over the carpet beside the bed. :eek: But I digress. CJ advised to get a wire mesh bag and a strong bicycle cable lock and lock your valuables into it, then attach it to a pipe, or something, in the room. My advice is to take nothing of value except money and passport, and keep them on your person.

The Nelson is an extremely old, overpriced dump. The location is great, which is the only reason it still exists, IMHO. The floors are old and creaky, the plumbing so-so. Unless you can't walk an extra 2 blocks I would pass on the Nelson. They do have a nice little bar on the ground floor. No girls, but a good jukebox and a good place to chill.

The Lafayette is a dump, too. It's a lot cheaper, but all you'll get is a marginal bed and a rickety chair.

The best place within walking distance, IMHO, is the Espana. It's across from Sanborn's, and about a block S. of the Lafayette. 350p/night M-Th, a bit more Fri and Sat. Heat, A/C, recently remodeled, clean. Beds are a bit small, but all the hotels are like that. Standard double. GF, although the afternoon receptionist has a bit of an attitude.

Second best is the Caesar. It's near Espana, across the street. About the same price, but IIRC, for a fan-only room. The A/C rooms were more. Also, no free bottled water at Caesar. Go figure.

After seeing Revo, there may not be a lot to do. THere is a lot of shopping, if that's your thing. You could arrange transport to Ensenada for a day and see the bufadora. If you're not too picky, there is something to do.

I'm not into massages outside of SEA, but Azteca and VivaMex are the two biggest LEGIT MPs in the area. No hanky-panky.

BTW, below the Lafayette is a little restaurant called La Especial. The food is good and the service is good. They could use the business.

Sgt Perv
03-21-09, 21:26
Last question is about the language. My Spanish is severly limited, but wanted to know certain phrases like CIM or Russian finish. The only ones I know of are arriba and con chupa (bj). I'm sure this will help with the streetgirls more than the ones in the club as they probably speak better english.
CloudeI have two places for you to look for your phrases of choice:http://www.mexican-hookers.com/chamuco/spanish.htm
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1808&page=1&pp=15

As far as Hotels...Nelson does have a safe at the front desk not sure why you would need it because you hide your money on yourself( money belt) and internet cafes are very close.

I like Nelsons because of the location. Its will be April ,so A/C should not be an issue. You can look out your window and watch the craziness of Ave Rev.

If you or your buddy drinks ,it has a lounge to top off.

For your first "newbie" night in TJ, I would really recommend Nelsons for it location.
Its a great home base to get your feet wet. Walk around your first day/night and see if walking a few more blocks at night is right for your buddy and yourself (you can always change hotels for the next nights). Keep in mind ,your own bathroom closeness for three days/nights.

Sgt Perv
03-22-09, 00:38
One more thing to consider when picking your hotel. The weather in April. In three to four days, you might see some rainy moments.

The thing I love about three to four days stay in Tijuana is the opportunity to do some serious scouting before the mounting.

A morning romp with a Alley girl helps knock the edge off for relaxing scouting. By the evening hours you should have been able to find an evening companion/tour guide.

Some of the regular night clubs on Ave Rev. Can be entertaining, watching the college kids act crazy.

I have drove down to both Rosarito and Ensenada. Not a whole lot to see other then the drive. I took the old road to Ensenada (wanted to see some Baja dunebuggy area), it was both scary and scenic. I drove to highway back (seemed safer). Your first day/night you will be stumbling around getting used to the area and culture, by your third night all the chaos will seem normal and you will not want to leave. LOL

From this point on you will be scarred for life and ruined for any (enjoyable) future US mongering. LOL

Once again convert to pesos to save a lot of money (instead of spending $1000 US it will be more like $700).

Cloude
03-22-09, 14:22
Thank you for your feedback guys. It's greatly appreciated. The link to the Spanish guide is going to help out a lot. Hotel Espana and Caesar sound great to me, but having Hotel Nelson so close to watch the fun is good too. I'll just pick one and extend if I'm happy and get another room if we each get overnight companions.

I only ask about the safe in the rooms because I'll have a digital camera and cell phone on top of the money, debit card and passport. My wife and my buddy's wife think we are just visiting San Diego and only going to Tijuana because his wife recommended us visiting (how convenient, no need for an excuse to visit). So we have to make it seem like we're taking pics and of course we need to have our cellphones around. I'll think about that idea to use a mesh bag and bicycle lock. Are there lockers at the San Diego airport?

It doesn't sound like much to do other than the shopping on Revolucion, but it's so close to the border if we really get bored we can cross back into the US if needed. I wonder if we'll get bored at all with all that action so close. It reminds me of Asia and how much I missed it. But thinking of this trip makes me feel like Quagmire from Family Guy. "Giggity Giggity"

I'm already ruined for any kind of action in the US especially after the last trip to Hong Kong a few years ago. With the economy and the type of mongering here, I've already put most of my mongering on hold for a long time. It's sad how bad we have it here in the US. But I'm happy about all the other great places we can visit.

I'm definately hitting up the atm when we cross the border to get more BANG for the buck. I was wondering if the girls in the clubs will take pesos? I hope they do. Anyways, thanks for the feedback and info. I can't wait until the trip. It's so close but yet so far. "Giggity Giggity"

Good luck mongering

Cloude

Phordphan
03-22-09, 16:43
Thank you for your feedback guys. It's greatly appreciated. The link to the Spanish guide is going to help out a lot. Hotel Espana and Caesar sound great to me, but having Hotel Nelson so close to watch the fun is good too. I'll just pick one and extend if I'm happy and get another room if we each get overnight companions.


Just a couple of comments...

Don't get too excited about watching the fun. Revo is nowhere near what it used to be, even a couple of years ago. Until recently, after 1-ish (?) they turned out all the lights and the street was as dark as a mine shaft. They have bright new street lights now, which helps keep the cops at bay. But the days of folks running up and down Revu until 3 or 4 are pretty much over. If you like mariachis, the Nelson corner is where they all hang out.

Overnight companions are not as easy to come by as elsewhere. YMMV, but, in general, it's a lot easier to arrange TLNs after a couple of repeat sessions. So, it could happen, but don't plan on it.

Depending on your carrier, odds are good that your cell phone will not work in TJ. I have Verizon and Boost Mobile (CDMA and GSM) and they'll work in spots nearer the border, and the northern tip of Revu, and certain corners in the Zona, but not much more.

Lastly, don't compare TJ to ANY Asian destination or you will be disappointed. There is no comparison. It is what it is, and stands or falls on its own merits. It's better than anything going in the US (duh!), and you'll see more beautiful Latinas than you can shake a stick at. But there have been too many gringos, for too long, mucking up the joint. :)

Have fun, don't get your hopes up too much, go with the flow but keep your wits about you, don't let 'em fleece you and you'll be fine!

Efjayel
03-23-09, 05:46
I've used both Verizon and Nextel phones in the Zona. Nextel seems to get great reception. Verizon, not so great but usable.

Country John
03-23-09, 21:18
I have a Nextel in Mexico, but use a sprint cel for state-side calls when I'm close to the border with no problems in the Zona, or from almost any location where I'm at a higher elevation. My sprint cel works from my house in Los Pinos/Lamesa/La Presa, about 12 miles South of the border.

Kid Esquiss
03-24-09, 01:50
Just in case for anybody who goes into Mexico and has an Iphone with At&t, make sure you turn your signal off because it will charge you roaming every minute trying to search for " data " even if you aren't making calls. Just a heads up.

Efjayel
03-24-09, 20:43
At one instance my Verizon phone displayed roaming on it. I guess it meant that if I used it, it would have roaming charges. It quickly went away though.

Everytime I cross the border with my Verizon phone I instantly receive a text message saying something like, "Welcome to Mexico and how to dial out while in mexico." That probably comes up on the bill. So just a heads up for those of you taking your phones across the border. Maybe you should turn them off before you cross.

Pablito Diablito
03-24-09, 21:05
Just in case for anybody who goes into Mexico and has an Iphone with At&t, make sure you turn your signal off because it will charge you roaming every minute trying to search for " data " even if you aren't making calls. Just a heads up.This is a good reminder for everyone carrying a phone with a data package. In your settings you should have the choice to go "off when roaming". They sure stick it to you with this one. The lady at ATT told me a story of helping some guy who ran up a $40, 000 phone bill because he receives so many emails while he was out of the country. They charge ridiculous rates for information sent or received while roaming internationally.

Sgt Perv
03-25-09, 04:08
You are better off calling your cell provider, prior to your out of country visit.

You need to know what your package includes and how it will act.

I use Verizon and my team stops at the border and texts me also with instructions to place calls while in Mexico.

I tried it once but the digital operater spoke in Spanish, without saying press 2 for English (I was pissed).

Once I re-entered the USA (100 Feet) my team picked me up and texted me again saying wecolme back to USA.

I always could maintained a signal in Tijuana but I have never recieved or made a call in Mexico but have gotten voice mail notices once I returned.

I mostly keep it turn off but on my person in case of emergencies.

I sure did not want to receive a call while I was in the middle of someone. LOL I do not check my email with my phone, I use the cafes once a day if needed.

I am sure the call date/time for Mexico will reflect on your cellphone bill.

So if you call mama and tell her you are in San Deigo, the cell bill will get you busted. I think the smart camper would step across the border (your so damn close) to tell that lie. LOL

Two Dollars
03-25-09, 09:46
I visited Hotel Manhattan (I think it's east of Chicago by half a block), and perhaps they gave me the best room there, but it was very nice. Tile floors, queen bed, gigantic wall mirror, clean sheets and shower. I've not read anything about it here, but it's better than anything that is closer to the action.

Libra 7474
03-25-09, 21:19
After years of reading the reports, I finally decided to join the forum and write a report about one of my past adventures in Mexico. I'll start with my February of the last year trip. Skipping all the boring details about me eating tacos and being bored in Ensenada, I 'll get straight to Tijuana.

After taking a bus back to the border from Ensenada, I arrived in Tijuana around 6pm and decided to spend the night there. My flight back to the Bay Area wasnt till next day afternoon. So I assumed I'd entertain myself by wondering around Coahuila and stare at the street girls. Before doing that I got $15 room at Hotel Michoacan, right next to the parking lot and the police station. Big mistake. Dirty, nasty, loud, lighs on all night long outside.

Saturday night. Throngs of women around, I went to several bars I. E. Adelita's, HK, El Tropical. Beautiful women but for some reason I kept being drawn to the street girls. So finally I decide to grab one, hanging near Hotel Michoacan with several other girls of her age. About 19, cute personality, playful. 200 pesos for 20 minutes. Go back to Hotel Michoacan with her, she says "oh the price doesn't include me taking clothes off". I speak spanish well enough to let her know that "I don't like her anymore, and I am leaving to get someone else". Her attitude changes immediately, she agrees to my terms and actually gives me a nice playful GFE, even with kissing and "Aye papi, que ojos azules lindos". About an hour later I decide to grab another one, one girl caught my attention standing against the wall next to taco stands. I make her go back to her hotel room and bring me the health card, which she obliges to do. I take her to my room, go at it for 15 minutes, can't finish. The girl just gets up and leaves telling me if I want to finish, it's another 200 pesos. I am miffed, telling her to leave and going back on the street grabbing more or less the first girl I see. Very cute, from DF, she gives me a CBJ while I am fingering her, does it in several positions and finally I finish her doggy style.

Now I am hungry, walking around to get something to eat. A masked mexican cop comes up and asks me for my passport. He takes it and walks across the road where 2 more cops wait. The cop starts "We have seen someone who looks like you buying drugs and now you have to go to prison and wait till it gets sorted out". Obviously, a bribe request. I am replying "Okay, let's go, I didn't do anything, I know my rights, I am going to complain etc. " Pretty ballsy but again I had a couple of beers and felt brave. But it worked. The cops immediately turned into being my best friends joking about women, even failing to find my wallet which undoubtedly would've been rummaged through. I go back to my hotel, pissed off, scared and not wanting to do anything else that night again.

Next day went without adventures if you don't count me coming back with 104 degree fever and almost passing out on the plain. I sure hope it was just a flu. : | I haven't been back to border Mexico since then, but I did hit some places in Mazatlan and Guadalajara and Puerto Vallarta that are worth being mentioned. It is for another day, however.

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SDcruiser
03-26-09, 03:54
Good for you libra7474. Showing no fear of going to the "big house" is the first step to putting them in their place.

Efjayel
03-26-09, 07:43
Libra, that was cool how you handled the cops. I would have probably retaliated. But if it happens to me I'll probably do the same thing.

Too bad you got a cold but same thing happens to me everytime I visit Tj. Bacteria is probably in the air.

Libra 7474
03-26-09, 18:18
Thank you for the kind words, everyone.

I am happy to contribute everytime I have anything interesting to report.

Sound7
03-26-09, 18:36
After years of reading the reports, I finally decided to join the forum and write a report about one of my past adventures in Mexico. I'll start with my February of the last year trip. Skipping all the boring details about me eating tacos and being bored in Ensenada, I 'll get straight to Tijuana.

After taking a bus back to the border from Ensenada, I arrived in Tijuana around 6pm and decided to spend the night there. My flight back to the Bay Area wasnt till next day afternoon. So I assumed I'd entertain myself by wondering around Coahuila and stare at the street girls. Before doing that I got $15 room at Hotel Michoacan, right next to the parking lot and the police station. Big mistake. Dirty, nasty, loud, lighs on all night long outside.

Saturday night. Throngs of women around, I went to several bars I. E. Adelita's, HK, El Tropical. Beautiful women but for some reason I kept being drawn to the street girls. So finally I decide to grab one, hanging near Hotel Michoacan with several other girls of her age. About 19, cute personality, playful. 200 pesos for 20 minutes. Go back to Hotel Michoacan with her, she says "oh the price doesn't include me taking clothes off". I speak spanish well enough to let her know that "I don't like her anymore, and I am leaving to get someone else". Her attitude changes immediately, she agrees to my terms and actually gives me a nice playful GFE, even with kissing and "Aye papi, que ojos azules lindos". About an hour later I decide to grab another one, one girl caught my attention standing against the wall next to taco stands. I make her go back to her hotel room and bring me the health card, which she obliges to do. I take her to my room, go at it for 15 minutes, can't finish. The girl just gets up and leaves telling me if I want to finish, it's another 200 pesos. I am miffed, telling her to leave and going back on the street grabbing more or less the first girl I see. Very cute, from DF, she gives me a CBJ while I am fingering her, does it in several positions and finally I finish her doggy style.

Now I am hungry, walking around to get something to eat. A masked mexican cop comes up and asks me for my passport. He takes it and walks across the road where 2 more cops wait. The cop starts "We have seen someone who looks like you buying drugs and now you have to go to prison and wait till it gets sorted out". Obviously, a bribe request. I am replying "Okay, let's go, I didn't do anything, I know my rights, I am going to complain etc. " Pretty ballsy but again I had a couple of beers and felt brave. But it worked. The cops immediately turned into being my best friends joking about women, even failing to find my wallet which undoubtedly would've been rummaged through. I go back to my hotel, pissed off, scared and not wanting to do anything else that night again.

Next day went without adventures if you don't count me coming back with 104 degree fever and almost passing out on the plain. I sure hope it was just a flu. : | I haven't been back to border Mexico since then, but I did hit some places in Mazatlan and Guadalajara and Puerto Vallarta that are worth being mentioned. It is for another day, however.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.Interaction with LE seems typical in TJ based on the data collected by LA Times in Febrauary 2009. Still the personal experience has a very long memory.

Arrests of Americans in Tijuana up in 2008, but drop in other cities

06:26 PM PST, February 03, 2009 LA Times

http://travel.latimes.com/articles/la-tr-ultimatearrested8-2009feb08?page=1

Sgt Perv
03-26-09, 20:51
The usual causes of American arrests, U.S. and Mexican officials agree, are drunk and disorderly behavior, involvement in a traffic accident, possession of a firearm and drug trafficking (which can mean possession of small amounts of forbidden substances, not necessarily linked to the region's warring drug cartels).Do not drive across,do not drink excessively and leave your drugs and guns at home.

All sounds reasonable to me. Most of this will get you arrested in any country.

Surfnk9
03-27-09, 00:03
...A masked mexican cop comes up and asks me for my passport. He takes it and walks across the road where 2 more cops wait. The cop starts "We have seen someone who looks like you buying drugs and now you have to go to prison and wait till it gets sorted out". Obviously, a bribe request.
I am replying "Okay, let's go, I didn't do anything, I know my rights, I am going to complain etc. " Pretty ballsy but again I had a couple of beers and felt brave. But it worked. The cops immediately turned into being my best friends joking about women, even failing to find my wallet which undoubtedly would've been rummaged through.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

The arrests of Americans are more about making money, i.e. bribes, than it is about law enforcement. With the narco wars going on, the local and state police have been in a constant state of chaos. Combine that with an ample supply of Americans who often put themselves in a vulnerable position. Maybe the reporting has changed, as suspected by the L.A. Times article, but I would have to say it is a multiple factors. The greatest factor being:

cops trying to squeeze every penny from every Yank they can get their grubby hands on.

Right or wrong they have the power, and if you do anything to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) them off, they can easily make your life a living hell.
The only way you can be insistent on being innocent is to be absolutely innocent. So, don’t talk to street people, don’t be drunk, don’t have any drugs in your possession, or be under the influence of any drugs, don’t drive down there, heck I don’t even j-walk. Don’t do anything to give them any reason to accost you. It is no guarantee, but keeping a low profile is the best way to stay below their radar.
The worst thing anyone can do is to take an attitude with the police; no matter how egregious their actions or how outlandish their accusations are. Remember, they are looking for an easy shakedown. A coherent, lucid, and confident gringo is not what they want to spend their time on. So be insistent, but polite.
When walking the street I avoid all eye contact or conversation with street people; but not with the police. When encountering the cops I don’t look away from them. I give them a glance, a nod, and then go my way. Any sign of avoidance is a red flag to any cop. My only bad experience came at the sentri drop off at 2 a.m. It was a shake down that if I had kept my wits about me, could have been avoided. Other than that, it has been clear sailing.

Once while traveling much further south on the Baja, I was stopped on a dirt road off the beaten path by Federalies in a flat-bead truck, one suspicious captain and 8 nervous kids with machineguns. With all the horror stories my brother had heard he was shitting his pants. They asked to look in my truck for armas y drugas, guns and drugs. The dirt road we were on went to the coast and it had a makeshift airstrip. I opened my camper shell and politely offered to help them pull stuff out, which they took me up on. I opened coolers, cabinets, board bags, anything they asked to see; then stepped back. As they thoroughly went through my stuff, I chatted it up with the captain in marginal Spanish. Near the end of the search I offered the captain some cigaros americanos, American cigarettes. Our Marlboros are much better than theirs. Three packs went to the captain; three packs went to the soldiers. To their delight they found a few Playboys; two ended up in the captain’s hands, two went to the kids. Any tension of the initial contact melted away once they realized we were not doing anything illegal and we were not a threat. We told them where we planned to camp and went on our way. A couple days later they showed up at our campsite on their rounds. They had found out we had dropped off a couple bags of kids clothing and toys at the church on the main road. They came to say thanks from the mothers with a bucket of lobsters and Halibut from the local fisherman village. We cooked up the bugs and fish and shared them along with some beers and laughs. You would have thought we were their cunados. It should be noted that Federalies are different from state and city cops, and the country is much different from the cities.
By the way, I don’t smoke, subscribe to Playboy or have any kids. A seasoned traveler clued me in to how to handle myself down there; just like the seasoned mongers have helped on this forum.

Libra 7474
03-27-09, 00:46
Surfnk9 is absolutely correct. The experience I described earlier is my only negative experience with the police I ever had in Mexico. Everywhere else, even in the rundown dangerous Zona Roja in Mazatlan, police never attempted to solicit a bribe. Acting low-key and respectful is very very important.

Khornal
03-30-09, 01:43
Hey yall,

First time in TJ, arrived yesturday saw Karla from http://mexicolindobar.com/.

What can i say, bbbj, cof, overnight lovemaking all night it was stupendeis.

I'm staying at the Ticuan and i left the hotel and saw a massage parlor right across the street. Was delighted to go in there see a Lara, 19 years of age. First she began with LFK and massage. She moved onto a CBJ on my little soldier which was a major dissapointment, than did a little doggy in the message bed, but after realizing the message beds wernt really my cup of tee she finished me off with a BBBJ cim it was awesome i had a blast.

El Flaco
04-02-09, 00:06
I go everywhere and never write about it. This is time is going to be different. I owe so much to the Forum, that a little love MUST be returned for sharing.

A twist of business brings me to the US. At the end of it I open up one week for vacation and try to arrange a special rendezvous with my Colombian favorita, she simply does not get it, consequently she is off my list now.

So it´s either DR or TJ. In the US all kind of BS circulates about how dangerous this place has become. Perfectly convinced by that, I book my ticket and at 3pm of a fine Sat. I´m crossing the bridge, walking the streets, back to the clubs, back to the alley.

Seems to me everything has improved compared to few years ago. The exchange, the girls, the streets, the traffic, everything looks like before but somewhat fresher an cleaner and better.

Anyway, the first day I feel prey to something to what was either an arranged stupid scam or an honest fuck up. Contrary to my inclination, I talk to a tout and he he promises me pretty girls that do not charge by 20 minutes intervals. Since that is pretty much what I want, I accept the services of this short dark man, his hair and mustaches already have lot of grey. We sit and in few minutes he returns with a slim girl in her late 20s, decently dressed, quite attractive overall, she say would stay over the night for $80. Paola is her name. I tell her that it seems too little to be believable but she insists the slow business is kind of forcing her to deal. I pay pesos 200 commission to the Mexican.

We´re go for the hotel I took for the night, kind of start something then she asks for cigarette money, I gave her and she leaves for a long time. As she retuns the BS begins, she gave me the old spin of the sick baby and the need to check on her often. So I get really suspicious and only leave usd 40 on the table for her to see. Well, we get at it for half an hour or so and sex isn´t even that bad. Here what pissed me off, I did not manage to come yet, and she ask to go downstair to the hotel office to meet her sister and give her the money needed for baby´s care. Seeing that she has left her watch, bracelet and cigarettes, I let her go. She never returns.

From here, the additional headache of dealing with the tout again as I run into him downstair. He swears to God that the girl never does that and something must have happened. Whatever, I go back to sleep a little more. Then he is back again with all kind of BS, that the police took away the money I gave him, because he carried no ID, that he will find the girl and fix it up, and of course demands more money. Well, to make a long story short, he never gets any and I never see that Paola again.

I kind of compensate with a petite streetwalker, Rocio, she goes full BBJCIM showing her clean pierced tongue after the act. No problems with this one.

But the best of the night is in the club with the entry door sitting 45 deg. between the alley and the downhill street. As I walk in, there are two long legged pole dancers, I ask a pole dance and with a smile the younger one of them happily goes.

Not older than 25, looooong legs, she is very attractive and nice to talk with. I tell her all kind of nice things and get good vibes but just collect her cell n. not wanting to invest more in the night. My beer is only 20 pesos and her 70, plus I have fun watching the bouncer unable to properly boot a drunk, either because the drunk was not drunk enough, or the bouncer not bouncer enough.

Then two wasted days in Ensenada follows. My bad, I should have got the straight dope on the very first night there but no, insisted for a second one, here´s the game that did NOT worked: I sit with the one of the VERY FEW girls in the clubs, Pescador and Hot Fox or whatever, agree on 600 pesos for them to show up at my hotel as they finish the night around 3am. They say yes but never show up. And the drinks, fichas are more expensive than in TJ.
There are two ladies camping across from Antony´s in a Suburban, asking $80, not worth one half of that.

I sit in regular bars drinking chatting gents and ladies but these are not the kind of women we travel thousand of miles for, to not seem impolite I smile a lot and collect their number anyway. I feel like I´m one of these Mexican club girls, by never calling back.

Anyway, I´m calling Lluvia and she is OK to see me as I return to TJ in the afternoon. From here a little of confusion begins. She is clearly lazily sitting home and not really rushing to see me right away, meeting is pushed later and later.

While I´m calling her for the 23rd time, tiny Rocio sees me while going with her baby for a doctor visit. I walk with her and and there is no BS from this GS, she pays 10 pesos for an injection and never demands anything. Think about the true cost of a public health system here.

To be honest, neither Lluvia never mentioned any money before it was me going to the subject. Anyway, I start loosing hope in seeing her again, so in a kind of slow motion Rocio reappears having dropped the baby and we can session in the shitty hotel. Boy, that girl can blow!

I spend one last watch in front of AB, all the touts know me by now and I wonder if the Police would not want to talk to me, as I´m there without an apparent reason.

Finally Llluvia appears on the curb, grabs my hand and says to walk fast as we talk. She is in great looks, tight jeans, hight heels and that girl´s baseball cap nicely topping her black hair and red extensions. I watch her in the eyes and must notice how the heavy makeup is totally appropriate for her face, she looks like of on these ´promotoras´ that everyone wants to fuck but can not.

I ask what she want to do and she says anything goes. So off we go to the small sushi place that just opend one block away. She never had sushi before and that alone is a great subject of conversations. I give her all the honest BS that I can about myself and she laughs and tells me how she managed to be booted from her own club because she was drunk and argumenting with a girlfriend of her last night. The sushi is not even that bad with a tasty salmon-tempura roll for 140 pesos.

I do not want to shag this fine one in any of the horrible hotels around so we check in at Caesars, that is having a special for 360 pesos per night. At least these are like rooms from this century!

In bed Lluvia is a pleasant surprise, it was totally worth to wait for her. She is sweet and natural but can move strong and fast, wants to be kissed, not even attempt to use a condom for oral. It´s a pure pleasure to watch her fine legs and face from any angle. Yes she had a child and bears some minor marks, but all in all she is the kind of girl that simply make you drool.

Time goes and she has to go back to the club anyway. I gave her 600 pesos, whatever sense that may or may not make, I try to compensate with some taxi money that she never asked for. I tell her in full honesty how I liked everything and wanted to repeat with her only, she says she believes me and will be trying to as well.

So all I have to do today is just call her six or ten times, then walk around the block 200 times and eat 40 tacos while waiting for her.

By the way I check HK, it´s in full swing at any time, with many true beauties inside. Altough have to say, even some SWs are very appetible. But I think the service from Rocio is the exception and not the rule.

EDIT - My Last night in TJ. Banged Rocio again and going to chase Lluvia in her own turf. Back to goodboy personality after that. But I have a ticket for BsAs already !

Efjayel
04-03-09, 00:51
Nice report flaco but whats DR and BsAs?

Sgt Perv
04-03-09, 01:14
Nice report flaco but whats DR and BsAs?Buenos Aires and Dominican Republic.

Phordphan
04-03-09, 01:27
Nice report flaco but whats DR and BsAs?

Dominican Republic & Buenos Aires

El Flaco
04-03-09, 04:24
An update must be given, the last night has been hectic as few in my life.

Correction due, the club where I meet Lluvia is "Bodana" next door to HK.
I show up there and I'm super nice and she is as well, the deal is to wait for her to finish about 2am.

I kill time in one of the lesser clubs, side by the police station, 2 beers 23 pesos how they can do that? Anyway, barely two attractive girls inside, I hook up with the skinny pole dancer, don't know why, that must be my dancers season. She is happy with 500 p. at my hotel, the "upscale" Caesars.

Like if I knew it, as their club closes early, Lluvia and her ugly friends move to HK and go wild. At 2.30 am, the whole place is wild.
Here her little "problem" shows up again, she gets drunk and passes out, her "girlfriends" do not give me a chance, moreover the bouncer kicks me out for "not consuming" - I protest to have bought 200p (100 in reality) of beers to which they reply still too little!, at that point the damage is done anyway, I tell them to stick with the jerk off big club spenders, and I make a beeline for plan B.

That turned out just OK except the skinny dancer looked much better in the darkness of the club, as she is worn out and also have an abuse problem. Some good rounds are being practiced anyway.

5.30 am, I'm not defeated yet and go back to the alley for a last rescue tour. It's not an easy game to pickup the best (but wasted and diffident) girls coming out from the clubs, so I settle with a SW, she is sweet and just behaves, let's forgive her for being 10Kg overweight.

Finally theHotel charges me for the guest (that was 3rd girl!), to which again I protest just because it seemed appropriate. It's only 50p anyway.

After the curvy SW leaves, I rest a little, then put together my shit, walk and breakfast at the linea, send Lluvia a last commiserating SMS, using the phone of the taqueria girl.

Now I really don't know when I'll be back here if ever, but I'll try.

I start thinking about Ecuador and Peru now...

QuackUp
04-03-09, 08:07
After being away for over 6 months, I finally made it back to tj this past Wednesday. Some observations. First, traffic from L.A. to tj was non-existent. There was one accident going nortbound and slowed the southbound traffic abit but otherwise, light traffic. This was around noon.

I parked behind the jack in the box, which is still $5.00 for an 8 hour period. Before parking, I did shop a little at the outlets at the border. When making the right turn from the fwy off-ramp, I notice the parking lot that the mexicoach bus uses, was also $5.00. I guess they are feeling the pinch also. I did not see what the price was for the parking lot with the duty free store in it.


I walked from the parking lot to the zona. It was weird, cars coming into Mx, stretched way back from the bridge back from the fwy for as far as the eye could see. This was around 17:00. You would have thought tj itself would be crowded. It wasn't. The plaza before the bridge crossing the dry river bed, was empty.

While crossing the bridge, on the dry river, there must have been at least 25 police cars there. Not sure if it was for training or if they were after someone, I never saw that before.

I went into three clubs, trop, h/k and l/c.. I will write those adventures in the proper thread.

With all the reports of the violence in tj, I didn't see any, and this trip felt no different than any of my past trip to this city.

Before I forget, I exchanged my money just after you past through the first set of turnstyles. The exchange rate was 13.4, I past by a couple of places around Rev. the exchange rate was pretty close. The highest I saw was 13.6, the lowest at 13.2

El Flaco
04-03-09, 10:24
...
With all the reports of the violence in tj, I didn't see any, and this trip felt no different than any of my past trip to this city.
We don't see it but four bodies (one was a policeman) have been found last week only. In this case the cartel took care of leaving an explicit written note.
That not to say it is actually dangerous to be there as the media and the US Gov.nt apparently wants you to think. Perhaps they don't want you to start asking why food (among other things) is 50% less expensive there.

...
Before I forget, I exchanged my money just after you past through the first set of turnstyles. The exchange rate was 13.4, I past by a couple of places around Rev. the exchange rate was pretty close. The highest I saw was 13.6, the lowest at 13.2I found that the exchange rate is accurately tracked at least twice a day by the most competitive booths, e.g. the one next to the police station. But the difference between a most competitive and an OK one is just 5 cents to the dollar, for example one is able to exchange at 13.70 with the absolute best dealer, and a close 13.65 at most others. Of course since the most competitive ones tend to be always the same, just check the spread and use that as an absolute reference to remember where it's preferable to go. Like, 15 cents of peso spread is an excellent value.
Of course just ignore the ones showing like 13.075 as mentioned elsewhere these are just meant to confuse and screw you.

Sgt Perv
04-05-09, 08:01
Your map is now immortalized in Brockton O’Toole’s Tijuana Guide.

I am very glad your dream came to light after all your hard work.

With your map and the guide a newbie should have no troubles.

Country John
04-05-09, 23:18
Your map is now immortalized in Brockton O’Toole’s Tijuana Guide.

I am very glad your dream came to light after all your hard work.

With your map and the guide a newbie should have no troubles.

The addition of the map to Brockton's guide will be an asset to newbies who want to see the "lay" of the land (pun intended) and plan their route. So thanks, Jackson.

Note to all GPS users out there: I just upgraded to the microsoft streets 2009 pgm from streets 2004 and sabes que? It has street level navigation capabilities for cities and towns in MEXICO, including Tijuana right now now.

So thanks to Jackson and thanks to Bill Gates.

Lazyboy
04-06-09, 04:44
Always leave enough money in you car to pay the parking fee. Do the worst case. If the fee is $7 then leave 25 in the car. This way if you are detained or robbed you can still get your car out of the parking lot. Also some lots change the rates on you. Having a few bucks for gas in also a good idea. This tip actually came from a lot guy! No money no get car out period.

Firedsup
04-06-09, 04:50
Congrats Buddy,

Hope all newbies, and others will use this to their advantage.

Happy and safe hunting

Efjayel
04-06-09, 07:50
Yeah, I just noticed my map finally made the Tj guide. Joy! :D
Thanks to all you guys who used it and also suggested it should be added.


I think one of the guys at the parking lot behind jack in the box charged me for going over the time limit of 8 hours even though I didn't. $5 bucks for 8 hours and $10 more if you go over. My fault was that I didn't pay attention to the ticket. And after I paid they kept the ticket so I couldn't check. Ten dollars is no big deal I guess but now I make sure to check the ticket before I pay.

One time I left the parking lot literally like 2 minutes before my time was up.

Country John
04-08-09, 01:48
Yeah, I just noticed my map finally made the Tj guide. Joy! :D
Thanks to all you guys who used it and also suggested it should be added.


I think one of the guys at the parking lot behind jack in the box charged me for going over the time limit of 8 hours even though I didn't. $5 bucks for 8 hours and $10 more if you go over. My fault was that I didn't pay attention to the ticket. And after I paid they kept the ticket so I couldn't check. Ten dollars is no big deal I guess but now I make sure to check the ticket before I pay.

One time I left the parking lot literally like 2 minutes before my time was up.

Do everyone a favor and keep the map up to date and accurate. Jackson posted it in the best possible place so now your obligaton to the membership is to make it as accurate as possible. Of course all this goes without saying.

Sound7
04-08-09, 08:05
Yeah, I just noticed my map finally made the Tijuana guide. Joy! : D Thanks to all you guys who used it and also suggested it should be added.

I think one of the guys at the parking lot behind jack in the box charged me for going over the time limit of 8 hours even though I didn't. $5 bucks for 8 hours and $10 more if you go over. My fault was that I didn't pay attention to the ticket. And after I paid they kept the ticket so I couldn't check. Ten dollars is no big deal I guess but now I make sure to check the ticket before I pay.

One time I left the parking lot literally like 2 minutes before my time was up.Great map update with pertinent info regarding Tijuana visit.

LOL the new parking sign. Being one minute over 8 hours. No exceptions $10. 00

A zero tolerance parking lot and only one with quick access to fwy for $5. Eight (8) absolute hours. $10 & $15 options.

Champak Lal
04-08-09, 16:21
I think one of the guys at the parking lot behind jack in the box charged me for going over the time limit of 8 hours even though I didn't. $5 bucks for 8 hours and $10 more if you go over. My fault was that I didn't pay attention to the ticket. And after I paid they kept the ticket so I couldn't check. Ten dollars is no big deal I guess but now I make sure to check the ticket before I pay.

One time I left the parking lot literally like 2 minutes before my time was up.[/QUOTE]For longer time, parking on the other side of the road is much cheaper and it is also very close to the border.

Efjayel
04-08-09, 23:45
Do everyone a favor and keep the map up to date and accurate. Jackson posted it in the best possible place so now your obligaton to the membership is to make it as accurate as possible. Of course all this goes without saying.

Thanks!

Yeah, I have to update it. I need to go back and spend a day there just verifying locations and things. Although I get kind of paranoid when I'm in TJ standing around the bars looking and writing stuff down. I figure it's going to catch the attention of Tj's finest and I don't want to have to be explaining what I'm doing. I see the police stop random people all the time and I'd hate to be one of them. I'll just have to be sneaky I guess. lol.

I'm planning a trip for this monday so I have to start making notes on what needs updating.


For longer time, parking on the other side of the road is much cheaper and it is also very close to the border.

I've never tried the other parking lots. I'm usually set in my ways that if something works then I'll stick with it. And since I've never really had any problem with the parking behind Jack in the box, I keep going back to it. I don't go anymore though. I take buses down to Tj instead. I can rest on the way there and back.

Intercalifornias bus. It's a hell lot better than the Amtrak plus trolley option. And it's way cheaper. $28 bucks roundtrip and about 2.5 hours later leaving L.A. I reach Tj. Amtrack plus trolley was like 5 hours each way and tickets where +40 bucks!

Dos Lunas
04-09-09, 03:11
Efjayel,

There is no comparison to taking the bus than driving. One of the reasons that kept me from going to Tijuana was the long tiring drive, that is, until I started taking the buses from Intercalifornias or Tres Estrellas. Its great being able to re-charge before and after the trips.

Have you tried the Greyhound to Tijuana yet. They reduced their roundtrip to only $20, but they stop in San Diego first. I wanted to know whether they are relatively on time and punctual like the other two bus companies.

Efjayel
04-09-09, 07:00
Never tried Greyhound. How is the Tres Estrellas? How often do they make the trip per day, how much do they charge roundtrip and do they make stops in between? Intercalifornias Goes straight from the Santa Ana bus depot straight to the border with no stops.

Sgt Perv
04-09-09, 10:34
Thanks!

I'll just have to be sneaky I guess. lol.I would do it in the open.

You will seem like a tourist looking for places.

Trying to conceal what your doing would look suspicious and warrant closer investigation.

Pablito Diablito
04-09-09, 18:13
So I saw somebody asking about passports in the AB thread, but I had a question myself. After driving all the way down to San Ysidro and realizing that I had forgotten my passport, AGAIN! , I want to get that new passport card so that I can just keep it in my wallet at all times. I printed out the application, and am almost ready to send it back in, but I also have to send my regular passport with it, and I tell myself, "one more trip, then send in the paperwork"

Has anyone actually got one of these cards yet? And how long am I going to be without a passport while I am waiting to get it back in the mail from that delightful bureaucracy?

By the way, for all or you still using a birth certificate and DL, you too are coming down to the wire. Unless the gov pushes the date back again, you are going to NEED that passport this summer. I think that I read about some deal on getting a passport card and book for the same price, for first time passport applications.

Travel. State. Gov

Get them while there is still time!

Efjayel
04-09-09, 20:00
By the way, for all or you still using a birth certificate and DL, you too are coming down to the wire. Unless the gov pushes the date back again, you are going to NEED that passport this summer.


What's the deal for us Permanent resident holders? Are we going to need more than the Green Card?

Sound7
04-09-09, 20:45
So I saw somebody asking about passports in the AB thread, but I had a question myself. After driving all the way down to San Ysidro and realizing that I had forgotten my passport, AGAIN! , I want to get that new passport card so that I can just keep it in my wallet at all times. I printed out the application, and am almost ready to send it back in, but I also have to send my regular passport with it, and I tell myself, "one more trip, then send in the paperwork"

Has anyone actually got one of these cards yet? And how long am I going to be without a passport while I am waiting to get it back in the mail from that delightful bureaucracy?

By the way, for all or you still using a birth certificate and DL, you too are coming down to the wire. Unless the gov pushes the date back again, you are going to NEED that passport this summer. I think that I read about some deal on getting a passport card and book for the same price, for first time passport applications.

Travel. State. Gov

Get them while there is still time!Do not know the actual backlog now but request for passport in down by 25% according to the US State Dept. statement.

It took two months in my case last year.

Pablito Diablito
04-09-09, 22:46
What's the deal for us Permanent resident holders? Are we going to need more than the Green Card?so according to the department of homeland security website:

http://www.dhs.gov/xtrvlsec/crossingborders/index.shtm

Lawful Permanent Residents

Air Travel

All travelers including children must present a passport or secure travel document when entering the United States by air.

Land/Sea Travel

Lawful permanent residents may continue to present their Form I-551, Permanent Resident Card. More information available at CBP.gov.

For the Yanks (estadounidenses or USA citizens), 52 days and counting until they put the Wester Hemisphere Travel Initiative into effect.
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cbpmc/cbpmc_2223.html

Fredla4947
04-09-09, 23:56
I just came back from Tijuana lot of fun in Hong Kong bar and adelita no problem at all price are still same as 3 months ago and passport are not requier for perminent resident yet.

Dos Lunas
04-10-09, 06:27
Never tried Greyhound. How is the Tres Estrellas? How often do they make the trip per day, how much do they charge roundtrip and do they make stops in between? Intercalifornias Goes straight from the Santa Ana bus depot straight to the border with no stops.

Tres Estrellas is identical to Intercalifornias regarding prices, times, and services, except that Intercalifornias can take you to the TJ airport but Tres Estrellas is more punctual.

Piedras649
04-12-09, 00:47
I still bring my passport when I cross the border but I only carry the card when moving about. It's great!!!

I live in Texas and I am hearing some really bad thing about Mexican border violence. As long as one sticks to mongering, how bad is it? I haven't been since December.


So I saw somebody asking about passports in the AB thread, but I had a question myself. After driving all the way down to San Ysidro and realizing that I had forgotten my passport, AGAIN! , I want to get that new passport card so that I can just keep it in my wallet at all times. I printed out the application, and am almost ready to send it back in, but I also have to send my regular passport with it, and I tell myself, "one more trip, then send in the paperwork"

Has anyone actually got one of these cards yet? And how long am I going to be without a passport while I am waiting to get it back in the mail from that delightful bureaucracy?

By the way, for all or you still using a birth certificate and DL, you too are coming down to the wire. Unless the gov pushes the date back again, you are going to NEED that passport this summer. I think that I read about some deal on getting a passport card and book for the same price, for first time passport applications.

Travel. State. Gov

Get them while there is still time!

Jackie888
04-12-09, 01:24
I still bring my passport when I cross the border but I only carry the card when moving about. It's great!!!

I live in Texas and I am hearing some really bad thing about Mexican border violence. As long as one sticks to mongering, how bad is it? I haven't been since December.Re Violence in Tijuana:

As far as I know the Red zone is being protected by SWAT teams who travel in groups of 8, in two seperate trucks but always in visual contact. All armed to the teeth in body armor and assault rifles. All wear facemasks. If you watch them closely, they all patrol like military personel. They don't bullshit with each other, their eyes continuously roam the streets in different direction. If they weren't wearing blue, I could have sworn that these Mexican military.

To me it does seem safer with these guys around. On the other hand, you do have to wonder why these guys are needed in addition to the ordinary police.

Pablito Diablito
04-12-09, 01:47
I still bring my passport when I cross the border but I only carry the card when moving about. It's great!

I live in Texas and I am hearing some really bad thing about Mexican border violence. As long as one sticks to mongering, how bad is it? I haven't been since December.To tell you the truth, I think that things have gotten better since the turn of the new year. I mean people are still dying, but the random shootings in public places are no where near as frequent. The military is out in force, and it sounds like Calderon is starting to clean up the police depts, but only time will tell.

As for the zona, the only difference that I notice is the drop in tourism. Just seams like there are less people, but that could just be that my last couple trips were during the day, instead of the night.

Cloude
04-12-09, 12:13
day 1

i just got back from a 4 day trip to tijuana flying into san diego with my good buddy. i’m from the east coast so the last day was just spent on traveling. i’d like to start off by saying we had a great experience and it was all due to the advice and reports i’ve read here for the past 2 years. with all the reports, brockton o’tools guide and efjayel’s map, i felt like i knew tj like it was my own neighborhood. thank you very much. i’ve been planning this trip for the past 2 years and finally had the opportunity to do it now. i’ve been good since my last monger trip to montreal in 2007, but more because it’s not worth it on the east coast to monger.

the reports are going to be long and as detailed as possible. too bad if it bothers you. just don’t read it. i’m just trying to give back to all my monger brothers. i’ll break it down by days, so only 3 reports. we mongered like newbies the first day, but quickly figured things out and it all turned out to be a great experience. my buddy can’t wait until we go again. although we both have mongered in asia (my buddy in thailand/cambodia and hong kong, china for me), this is the best on this side of the planet. nothing beats asia, but tj is good, closer and a lot cheaper.

our trip started on monday and after landing at san diego airport, we found our way to the bus stop to take bus 992 and headed into town to find the trolley. after finding the trolley we decided to walk around the area to find a bank which was across the street. i decided we needed to take some pics of the city to show our significant others that we did some things in san diego and before visiting tj. after walking around and taking some pics of the city we jumped on the trolley heading to the border. after about an hour’s ride, we arrived and followed the crowd heading up the ramps. we joked about not getting killed and getting shot as we walked up the ramps and over the bridge. i noticed the clanking of the gates as we were walking down the ramp on the other side and knew what everyone was talking about that familiar sound as they head over the border. my friend was a little worried about the guards with the automatic weapons. we got out the gates and had the first taxi driver take us to hotel espana which is 2 buildings from vivamex spa. we checked in and paid $40/night + $10 deposit.

after showering and freshening up we headed out to explore the area by heading towards the arch. riding in the taxi towards the hotel everything seemed so overwhelming with people all around and buildings looking run down. while walking towards the arch, it felt similar to chinatown in nyc with all those shops and touts outside trying to get you inside. we walked towards the zone and found ourselves on the corner with the seafood stand and taco stand by hk. we were hungry so we stuffed ourselves with a couple of beef and pork tacos. they were awesome. after debating we decided to head back to vivamex to get a massage to recharge after our long travels. i got the therapeutic massage for $39/hour and my buddy got the deep tissue massage for $49/hour. i drew alexandra who was pretty and ended up giving me one of the best massages i’ve ever had. great technique and made me feel so relaxed. of course no he included. it just hit the spot.

after showering back at the hotel we headed out determined to check out the sw’s and hit up the clubs. we saw a few promising girls, but decided to hit up adelitas. we were ushered by one of the waiters to a booth by the wall opposite the entrance. we each ordered a beer and within a minute of getting our drinks, we each had a girl sitting next to us. i had carla, she was a 7 with enhanced boobs. she asked for a drink and i obliged. we talked for a bit and she asked to arriba. i declined and wanted to chill a little more. of course now she is rubbing and getting junior hard. my friend gets asked to go up and decides to go with his tall blond. i head right after him and get mechanical service. total turn off as i knew it would be. she didn’t let me suck on her tits or much else. i did get multiple positions with a cbj to start it all off. of course it wasn’t good, but i was able to nut after 10 mins. definitely a newbie move, but i knew it would happen. the same went for my friend. he was totally turned off by the whole experience. he was only use to mongering in thailand and cambodia so he hates not having that connection. we head back out of adelitas and head straight for the street stalls on the corner. now we decide to try the seafood. the seafood and clams are friggin amazing. that’s some of the best seafood i’ve ever had. thanks for putting that on your map efjayel. it’s awesome.

we head back to our hotel full and shower. my friend past out sleeping by 8:30pm. i forget to mention we had a birthday party for him the night before we left for our flights. we only slept 2 hours and almost were late for the flight too. it’s been a tiring day and not a good start to our trip. i stay up watching training day thinking about what we could do differently and determined to make this trip a damn good one.

cloude

Cloude
04-12-09, 12:15
Day 2 Part 1

We start off by waking up around 9am and are out the door around 10am. We walk down Revolucion heading toward the Jai Alai arena to explore picking up coffee on the way. After seeing nothing much we decide to head back up toward our hotel and head into the restaurant directly across from our hotel to get breakfast. We relax and plan out what we should do next. We finally decide to try a SW. We head toward and the zone to check out the girls available. My friend can’t decide, but I’ve had my eyes on this girl in a school girl outfit I saw the day before. He just decides to go with the girl that’s talking to the girl I pick out. So we head up to the hotel a block away. I get Maribel who initially agrees to everything for 200 pesos. Of course I didn’t specify before going up exactly what I wanted. So she upsells for multiple positions. I don’t go for it and start to go limp. After a few more tries, I’m totally lost it and ask her to cbj to finish. Of course it was an upsell for that too, but I’m needing to nut so I go for it at 50 extra pesos. My friend got a little better service without the upsell, but he got limp too and had a hard time finishing. His girl did work hard to finish him up though. Again he was so turned off and pissed that he went limp on his girl. He didn’t have that connection with the girl so it made it worst that jerking off. He was all freaking out that this trip isn’t going well and maybe we should head back to San Diego.

We decided to chill out and do some shopping for souvenirs. On the way to shopping my buddy started thinking about picking up some percocet to relax. So we decide to check out a few pharmacies by the hotel. We find out that he has to have a prescription to purchase percocet as it’s a controlled substance. After walking out one of the pharmacies this guy starts asking my buddy what kind of drug he’s looking for as he can get anything. He foolishly follows him back into the club next to the casino called Peanuts. This was 6pm so it was still light out, but I follow him to make sure he’s fine. The guy tells us to wait inside the club while he goes and gets the percocet for us. So we enter the club and I get a bad vibe right away as there are only 2 other patrons in this club with the rest of the girls sitting around. Right away we get asked what we want to drink and also a girl starts to give my friend a grinding lapdance. I have a girl try to get up on me but I push her back as she is ugly with black teeth. I told my friend to take off but he wanted to wait for a few minutes for the guy. Of course he did have a girl dry humping him. I told him I will wait for him outside so it will force him to leave. After leaving I saw the same guy who brought us in run out the back door heading down the other street. So I wait about 5 minutes before he finally comes down without any percocet. I can’t believe we’re trying to buy drugs right off the street in TJ. This was so retarded of him, but I’m glad I got him out of it without any problems. More to this part of the story later.

After doing some shopping we decide to check out Aztec Massage, but they had a 2 hour wait, so we headed back to the hotel to relax a bit. On the way back we hit up the Casino and lost 100 pesos each. We played some kind of bingo slot machine, but lost it pretty fast. So after relaxing at the hotel, we headed out to Aztec Massage to get our massage. We run into the same guy who try to sell my buddy some percocet and says he spent his own money to buy it and we left him hanging. So my buddy follows him to the alley behind the Casino to buy the percocet and popped them right away. I still can’t believe that we were buying drugs in TJ off the streets. After that we get to Aztec and just wait a few minutes before getting our massages. I got the basic massage and shower for $25/hour while my buddy got that plus the body shampoo for $40/hour total. For the body shampoo the girl washes you in the shower. He ends up with a not so hot girl so it wasn’t all that good, but the massage was pretty good. My girl was cute and I got a good massage, but not as good as the one at VivaMex Spa. Overall it was worth it for $25. Only if massages in the US were as good and as cheap.

Cloude

Cloude
04-12-09, 12:18
Day 2 Part 2

It was around 8pm as we head back to the hotel to freshen up after the massage. I was determined to make this trip a good one so I planned to follow some advice I’ve read on the forums here. I talked my buddy up and told him our plan was to say no to any girl asking to go arriba right away. We were going to hit up all the bars and clubs to see what’s going on in all of them and to get the true TJ experience I’ve been reading about. We checked out the SW’s around the area as we walked by heading toward Chicago Club. It was totally empty there. I remember first reading the forums here 2 years ago and this club was always hopping. How things have changed. Now we head towards HK and skip Adelitas as we were there last night.

We walk through the first floor of the club to check out the action and find ourselves at the stools by the bar and grab a drink. Things looked good here as there was always at least a few girls all around us dancing/stripping. I noticed there was a guy in the booth off in the corner getting grinded by this hot girl in red the whole time we were sitting there. This was just amazing to actually see it with my own eyes. There were plenty of 7-8’s with a couple of 9’s. We only hung around for one drink before heading out to check out the other clubs.

We hit up all the other local clubs like Gloria Club, Hacienda, etc around the area, but don’t find any reason to stay. We finally end up in La Tropical and stay for a drink. We get a seat by the dance floor and watch the strip show while checking out the girls. There was only one 7 and the rest were 1-6’s. The 7 was blond and looked like she was American and not Latin. She got picked up after a little and we decided to leave and head back to HK.

We found a booth on the 2nd floor to catch all the action going on. After getting our drinks this girl sits down with my friend. She has such a cute face and complexion and huge DD’s. She kept motioning to me that she does a great bj. It was funny just to watch my buddy groping her huge melons. After a little while my buddy told her to sit with me. One of my goals on this trip was to motorboat some cute girl with huge knockers. I just pulled them out of her tube top and went for a long boating trip. It was a great trip on those implants, plus she was so cute. Too bad one of the managers came by to tell her it was her turn to dance. She kept telling me how good she bj’s and I could also go at her Russian style too. It was so tempting, but we left after a few more drinks and right after she got off stage too. We ended up buying her a total of 3 drinks, but it was well worth it.

It was almost 11pm when we left HK to hit up the taco and seafood stand. Again it was orgasmic. I still can’t believe how good the food is there. It’s almost worth it to just go there for the food. After the food we decide to try Adelitas. My friend still had a sour taste after the night before there. It was pretty hopping when we got in, but we were able to find a booth in the same place as the night before. We sat down and got a couple of drinks. After a couple of minutes a girl sat down next to my buddy and he bought her one drink. He didn’t really like her so he sent her on her way. We sat around checking all the girls, but didn’t have any target yet.

After watching the strip show for a little, this hot blond sits next to me and asks me to buy her a drink. Who am I to say no to an 8. She doesn’t speak any English and my Spanish is preschool, but she starts getting comfortable sitting with me and I start to feel her up. She didn’t have large breasts, but they were a nice size and natural. After buying her a couple of drinks, she starts to rub junior and asks me if I want to go arriba. I tell her I like to sit and relax more. After a little while my friend sees his target and asks the girl I’m with to ask her to sit with us. My buddy buys her a beer and they start to get comfortable. Too bad his girl doesn’t speak any English either and his Spanish is none existant. It’s funny how my buddy took 4 years of Spanish and I took 6 years in school, but forgot most of it already. Anyways I end up buying my girl 6 drinks for the next couple of hours while just relaxing with her watching the strip shows and my buddy 8 drinks for about 3 hours. We both didn’t take them arriba. We just ended up leaving around 1am and headed to HK for another drink.

I was hoping to maybe see the girl I saw earlier at HK to follow up on the bj she promised to be so good, but didn’t see her around. We left after having a quick drink and got more tacos and seafood. We walked back to the hotel without any problems, but did notice the police pulling a car over a street down from our hotel. There didn’t seem to be any problems walking back to the hotel from the zone at about 2am. Then again I’m used to walking home after work late night. I just make sure to know my surroundings and nothing ever happens. I feel like TJ is pretty safe even at night. I never had any cops come up to us. Maybe we always walked around with my buddy so nothing ever came about. TJ seems just like any other large city late at night.

Cloude

Cloude
04-12-09, 12:19
day 3

we left the hotel around 11am and headed up toward the arch. we decided to walk towards the border to check out the area around there. we decided to get breakfast at taco bell which is a couple of blocks away from the arch heading toward the border. it was good food and something different than tacos and seafood. after breakfast we did some more souvenir shopping around revolucion. i wanted to go to vivamex spa to have alexandra give me another great massage. she wasn’t working wednesday, but we still went for a 90min massage for $55. after the massage we went back to the hotel to freshen up before heading out.

we both wanted to test out vitamin c so we picked up a couple at one of the pharmacy on revolucion. we then headed to the zone to get dinner at the taco and seafood stands. after filling up with some good food we hit up hk first and caught the end of the soapy show. we sat around the stage to watch the strippers more close up. after watching for a little bit i determined that the booths upstairs or against the wall give a better view of the show. i wanted to test out the vitamin c so i decided to take one of the sw’s we saw earlier. i picked naneet from mexico city, 19yrs old with blond hair and a pair of d’s. she agreed to 300 pesos for multiple positions with cbj to start. it was nothing special, but it was good to get my nut off for that price. i meet up with my buddy who was enjoying the strip show at hk.

after a few more dances, hk emptied out pretty fast. i think it was the shift change. we decide to leave and check out la tropical, but there were no lookers. we then tried chicago club again, but again it was empty like the night before. one of the guys kept trying to get us to go into mermaids each time we walked by on either side of the street so we finally went up to check out the line up. there were 6 girls and only 2 were any good, but we decided it was too early for any kind of massage and fuck. it was more to just see how it’s all set up and check out the quality of girls. we then check out the other local clubs with no luck.

we end up in adelitas and it was really busy with no booths open except for next to the bar in the back. we sit down in the back and get a drink. after a couple of songs, the girl i was with the night before sat down with me again. i buy her 3 drinks and get really comfortable with her. my friend has a couple of different girls sit with him, but he’s really waiting for the girl he was with the night before too. after about an hour my buddy suggests that my girl go arriba with me. she just takes my hand and i lead her up to the hotel. i pay the room fee and we head to our room. in the room i give her 800 pesos and start undressing. after she undresses, she tells me to get the bed ready with the white sheet provided and she tells me to lie down. she starts to kiss me all over my body and starts a slow cbj. she kept staring into my eyes and made it seem like i was with my girlfriend. i was almost expecting a mechanical session, but really hoping that it will end up a gfe session. she gets on top for some cowgirl action and then after some good pumping on my part she asks to change position. i was thinking we were going to just do some doggy or missionary. she guides me off the bed and she gets into doggy position so i’m doing her standing while she’s on the bed doggy style. it was very porn like, but very intimate as she was seeming to really enjoy it. she didn’t use any lube like all the other girls i had here in tj. after a few minutes we then both got up and i did her standing up facing the mirror in the room. it was more than anything i expected. after a couple of more minutes, she moved back to the bed for missionary while i was standing on the side of the bed. i ended up popping like this with her lightly moaning. it was just like i was with my girlfriend.

after the session i got dressed and watched her slowly get dressed and back into uniform. she then asked for propina, so i decided to give her an extra 200 pesos. it all came out to about $74 dollars with the 13.5 exchange rate i got from the atm. i could have declined the tip, but i thought she deserved it. we joked around for a little more before getting a knock on the door. we headed back down and i got her a few more drinks. my friend was sitting with another girl, but it wasn’t the one from the night before. she was sitting at one of the stools waiting for the other girl to leave. my buddy only bought the girl one drink, but would not leave. it wasn’t until he told her to leave that she left. the girl he was waiting for came over after a few minutes. they both seemed happy to see each other. my friend bought her another 6-7 drinks the rest of the night. i let my girl leave after telling her no more ficha drinks. i know she’s here to make money so i don’t mind her leaving.

my buddy is just enjoying his time with his girl and she hasn’t once mentioned going arriba with him. there were girls coming over all the time to ask for a cigarette and my friend obliged everytime. laura from monterey came by a couple times, but this time she asked if she could sit down with me and buy her a drink. i really liked her braces as i think they’re cute. she also had a pair of huge natural tits that she put my hands on and i groped them the whole time. she even slipped my hand under her top so i could have access to her kitty. i just went right at it the whole time enjoying it all. my friend later told me he was jealous especially because it was his smokes and he paid for the drink too. damn, i wished i lived closer. after laura finished her drink, i thanked her for her time as she asked for ‘a drink’.

after a few minutes, i told my buddy’s girl to take him arriba. she took him by his hand and they were gone for a good 40 minutes. he had a great gfe. after his pop, she wanted to give him another cbj for nothing, but he didn’t have another condom on him so it never happened. they just held each other and took a quick nap before getting the knock on the door. lucky bastard!! that’s a true gfe. he pulled out about 2000 pesos from his pocket and offered whatever she wanted. she only took 500. they came back holding hands and stayed for another 2 hours. we didn’t leave until 3am.

i had multiple girls ask me to buy them drinks, but i declined all. there was one girl i was looking at the whole time i was there. she has shoulder length hair and a small tight body, but she wasn’t short. i didn’t notice anyone buying her drinks. she actually was standing near where we sat the night before which is near the wall opposite the entrance. but tonight when we were sitting near the bar in the back, she stood close by too. she did go back to the other side after i brought my girl arriba. i also noticed her peeking over at me a lot both nights. i’ve always had a thing for girls with shorter hair, but i didn’t act on it this time. does anyone know what’s her name or any info on her? if i’m there again later this year, i’ll definitely have to find out more about her.

after leaving adelitas, we hit up the taco and seafood stand for one last meal. again it was awesome. i could go for some right now. we left the next morning with no troubles. we got through the border with almost no wait. i took the advice of some by going to the line on the far right.

anyways, thank you for reading my long report. thanks again for all the info i received from all the members here. without you i wouldn’t have had this great experience. i know we could have spent less, but i’m sure it might not have gotten us both gfe. my buddy also got to exchange info with his girl and he will keep in contact with her for next time. we both spent about $1500 each for 4 days/3 nights including airfare, hotel, food, etc. it may be a lot to some, but we don’t monger back home, so it’s all about getting the most out of the trip. for us, we did get that. tj is definitely not as scary as some might make it out to. the people all seem to be friendly too. just don’t act like drunk dumb american and everything should be fine.

cloude

Efjayel
04-12-09, 13:18
Awesome, nice TR's Cloude!

I know exactly what you mean about the Seafood and Taco stands. The seafood stand is there 24 hours a day. The taco stand isn't always there and they are not ran by the same people as the seafood stand. Those tacos are okay. The better tacos are the Awesome Fish tacos on Ave. Negrete and Felipe Carrilo Puerto also pointed out on my map. But that seafood stand, oh my god...

Everytime I'm there I ALWAYS order the "campechana." That's their oyster cocktail. That is so freaking good! I've never tasted one like those anywhere else. And trust me I've searched! I think their secret is how everything is so fresh. Damn, I need to go back just for that seafood. It doesn't surprise me either cause it's even better than most of the sex I get at TJ. lol.

Bowline
04-17-09, 01:19
I had not been to the "Zona" for over a month and wanted to check out the action. For me it is only w 20 peso taxi from my condo, I never drive at night unless I have to.

There was very little to be seen on a Monday night. Went to Hong Kong and Adelitas, but, they are to up market and not to my liking anyway,

My usual, have not seen any mention in these reports, is the Playboy on Constitution. It has been recently remodeled but not improved as I liked it better when it was more lower class.

There are some very attractive girls working down stairs performing 2 or 3 dance numbers stripping down to bare upper torso. All of the dancers will go to the "vip" rooms downstairs and it will cost around $65 more or less, this is $40 for the room and the rest for the girl, I have had some great times in the "vip" rooms. The furnishing leaves much to be desired, but, who of us is a an interior decorator?

The upstairs has a dance floor at just above floor level. The girls try very hard to please and are generally attractive, they also can be taken out or into the rooms in the rear. Prices are about the same. Drinks are US$4. 00 on either level. I hooked up with one of the dancers and took a room. No GFE, but, this is not available in Tijuana, or if it is I have not found it except when I operated a bar there. The performance was very good. Cost for drinks, $23 plus the room and girl came out to be less than $100.

Later hooked up with my regular, on the wall south of Coahuila about 1/2 to the alley. About 11:00 PM.

WE usually go to my condo for what would be in Bangkok a long time. She will accept whatever I want to give her and I brought her back at 6:00 am the next day, cost was $40. 00.

My experience is: go early, look around as there are some real finds for the patient and experienced monger. Stay sober and bargain.

Will be a wing man for any ISG member, so send me a PM.

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JPF
04-17-09, 22:43
There was very little to be seen on a Monday night. Went to Hong Kong and Adelitas, but, they are to up market and not to my liking anyway,


Interesting report. HK and AB are not more "up market" in terms of price compared to the "less than $100" that you spent at Playboy. They generally cost about the same (girl: 60 + room: 12) plus drinks which for us are the same price ($4).

But maybe you weren't talking price but "ambience"?

Joehart1
04-18-09, 14:16
Those were great reports Cloude I agree. But I do have a question. Is it safe to eat and drink in Mexico? I've heard some horror stories. I did visit Tijuana once before but stayed north of the border mainly because of the fear of the food. A man has to eat. I'm a guysy guy except when it comes to food in Mexico.

Opinions please.

Thanks in advance and enjoy!


Awesome, nice TR's Cloude!

I know exactly what you mean about the Seafood and Taco stands. The seafood stand is there 24 hours a day. The taco stand isn't always there and they are not ran by the same people as the seafood stand. Those tacos are okay. The better tacos are the Awesome Fish tacos on Ave. Negrete and Felipe Carrilo Puerto also pointed out on my map. But that seafood stand, oh my god...

Everytime I'm there I ALWAYS order the "campechana." That's their oyster cocktail. That is so freaking good! I've never tasted one like those anywhere else. And trust me I've searched! I think their secret is how everything is so fresh. Damn, I need to go back just for that seafood. It doesn't surprise me either cause it's even better than most of the sex I get at TJ. lol.

Surfnk9
04-19-09, 00:27
Those were great reports Cloude I agree. But I do have a question. Is it safe to eat and drink in Mexico? I've heard some horror stories. I did visit Tijuana once before but stayed north of the border mainly because of the fear of the food. A man has to eat. I'm a guysy guy except when it comes to food in Mexico.

Opinions please.

Thanks in advance and enjoy!

Good question Joe. It's been discussed here before but you would have to go back a ways to get it.
Montezumas Revenge mainly comes from dirty water. So that means tap water, ice cubes from tap ater, vegetables rinsed in tap water, hands washed in tap water without soap or heat, and dishes not properly washed. Also meat not heated enough.
There are several ways to avoid stomach proplems.
Eat at busy restaurants and stands. Where there's a crowd, the food is fresher.
Don't use tap water for brushing your teeth.
Drink bottled water and avoid ice unless you know it comes from a safe source.i.e. bagged.
I take a Peptol Bismol tablet before I eat a meal. It is a technique I have used all over the world and it has never failed. If you plan to use Levitra or Viagra, take the ED pill 45 minutes before taking Peptol Bismol.
All in all I feel it's safe, but you do need to take precautions.

Pablito Diablito
04-19-09, 00:38
Eat at busy restaurants and stands. Where there's a crowd, the food is fresher.I also try to avoid the ceviche stand that is on the street during the summer months. 90 degree temperatures and ceviche = blah

Also, long time vegetarians are best to not give up vegetarianism for the first time with a street side chorizo taco. TRUST ME! That sh*t will run right through you.

In all honesty though, you could get sick at a Sanborns if you are ordering something that is a rarity in Tijuana. Like Surfnk9 says, look for the crowd, not only does the turnover mean the food is fresher, but they have their system down. (ie the person making your food is not the one taking the money)

Vitrea
04-19-09, 02:19
There is so much written about border crossing, I thought I would skip the process but may be add a few pointers.

I used to Park my car for $8 overnight, next to the UETA duty free store. When the store is open, you could even walk through the store. On the way back though, it is a long walk back. Usually I am quite tired on the way back.

I found that if you take a left before you go into the UETA parking lot, cross the bridge and turn right you could park a lot closer to the border. There are two small parking lots but I found spaces even on busy weekends. It is $10 though. If you park here you do have to walk a bit farther (use the pedestrian bridge over the control offices) going into Tijuana.

If my explanation is not clear, feel free to PM me.

Cloude
04-19-09, 06:40
When I was in TJ with my buddy, we both were so worried about getting sick that we monitored our bathroom habits closely. The funny thing was that we got heartburn on the trolley going back to downtown San Diego when we got some kind of snack when crossing the border back into the US. We didn't get anything at all, but we had pepto and other stomach medicine ready just in case. We ate at a nice restaurant across from Hotel Espana and the rest of the time was at the street food. Definately go the the stands that are the busiest like the one on the corner near Adelitas. There's always a crowd around it at all times. But you never know when you might get sick. Always be prepared, you can get sick at McDonalds or Burger King just as easily. Only drink bottled water and no ice. Good luck, I can't wait to return.

Efjayel
04-19-09, 21:55
I went a few days ago(report to come soon) and ate some of the tacos at the stand next to the seafood stand obviously also had some of the seafood. On my way out, I also got a burger at the McDonalds that is stateside. Then when I got home I ate a huge burrito from this place near my house. The next day my stomach started grumbling so I went to the restroom and had a bad case of diarrhea. Came out black and very watery, in short bursts, "BLAM, BLAM, BLAM!" Was actually kind of fun. lol

Then I felt better. :D
I didn't get sick or anything I just had to use the restroom. Now I wonder if it was the tacos, the seafood, the burrito or the burger that caused this. First time that eating at Tj caused me any problems. I have a strong stomach anyways, I can eat a lot of crap and not be affected by it.

Firedsup
04-19-09, 23:41
Efjael,

Dude I do enjoy your reports and the maps are great, holy shit, that last report way to much info man a little funny, but hold the taquitos and pass the ice cream.

happy hunting

Sdguy777
04-19-09, 23:50
There is so much written about border crossing, I thought I would skip the process but may be add a few pointers.

I used to Park my car for $8 overnight, next to the UETA duty free store. When the store is open, you could even walk through the store. On the way back though, it is a long walk back. Usually I am quite tired on the way back.

I found that if you take a left before you go into the UETA parking lot, cross the bridge and turn right you could park a lot closer to the border. There are two small parking lots but I found spaces even on busy weekends. It is $10 though. If you park here you do have to walk a bit farther (use the pedestrian bridge over the control offices) going into Tijuana.

If my explanation is not clear, feel free to PM me.$5 behind Jack In The Box. Even on the busiest Fri&Sat nights I have found space. 5 north/ 805 north entrance right there!

Jackie888
04-20-09, 18:13
This report includes visits on Thursday 4/16/2009.

PARKING. I parked in the $8 lot rather than the Jack in the Box because it appears to me that it offered better security. So I was willing to pay the $3 premium.

TRAVEL. The border was patroled by Mexican Marines + Mexican border police. Upon crossing the border, I paid $3 to Taxi Libre for the trasportation. I always pick an older driver even when stuck with the yellow cab cartel, which I despise. They drive more cautiously, keep the seatbelts in their car in working order and not badger you for tips. I'd rather not start out my vacation with by fighting with an asshole taxi-driver.

ADELITAS. I think it's because of Easter, but this place was sparse. The ladies tend to be older than in the past. So they looked to be in the 24-34 range. However, they don't blast the music as loud as they used to, which is a nice retreat if you get burned out later. Price was 50-70 USD, or 600-800 Pesos. They will take pesos for drinks. The waiters are less pushy than other clubs. This place has melowed out since I've last visited. One big bonus about Adelitas is that the ladies generally speak English.

Hong Kong. Here, the ladies are younger but are not as pretty as Adelitas. But there are more! There are two types, one group wearing slutty clothes and the second group wearing conservative black dresses & miniskirts. I was first under the impression that the conservatives don't do the nasty thing. This is wrong. They do everything the other group does. The only difference is that they don't do the go-go dancing and strip show. Upstairs, private dances, etc. Everyone does it. Price was 50-70 USD, or 600-800 pesos. One thing I dislike about HK is that the ladies generally don't speak English, and that they blast their music. So you end up yelling a lot and you can't tell whether the ladies can't hear you or can't understand you. The best thing about this club is that you can practically get any lady to sit and play with your piece for a price of a drink. Personally, I like the lap dance. Yes you can bone them for $72 (60+12) and the dance is $20. But I see it as sampling. Maybe I'm picky, but I don't want to waste my 1/2 hour boning a real ***** of a woman. My time and energy there is as precious as my dollar.

MINOR CLUBS. Didn't get to flavor them this trip. But I did poke my head inside. Other than the one right next to Hong Kong, they were insufficient ladies. What I don't like is they like to turn the lights down. So you can't see whether the ladies are less attractive or not.

DRINKS. They still cost around $3 each. I tend to get a beer upon first arrival. But then I purchase a water bottle afterwards. You can take it to other clubs (provided you hide them upon entering), wrap a napking around it and walk around without being harrassed for drinks.

EAT. I've the world's weakest stomach. So I stay with the restaurant next to Adelitas or the Chicago club. I'm workign my way down their menu. I suppose I'll venture out to other places after I finish the menu.

PESOS. I tried using pesos to save money. However, my inabilty to speak Spanish and the inability of the ladies to do simple math, it's been a real pain. From my experience, the ladies think in USDollars. Then the convert it back to pesos. What ever romance or heat you have with a lady before you negotiate evaporates by the time you lock down a price. So unless you can speak Spanish, stick to USDollars for the ladies.

SANITARY. I try to wash my hands a lot, particularly BEFORE using the restroom. If you're like me, you like to touch as you go through a club (hey I'm a prevert, my hands go everywhere). So I do advise my fellow man to wash their hands clean of bacteria prior to handling their piece in the bathroom. It's a shame to pick up a STD but it's outrageous to pick it up without engaging in actual sex.

OUTLETS. BTW, if anyone wants to do some shopping, there is a minimall with outlet stores about 1/4 mile from the border. Turn right when you get off the final exit. Much of them are for guys. Nike, Adidas etc.come to think of it, the marjority of them are for guys unlike other outlet malls.

Hmmm. Maybe they know something.

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Country John
04-20-09, 20:01
Is it safe to eat and drink in Mexico? I've heard some horror stories. I did visit Tijuana once before but stayed north of the border mainly because of the fear of the food. A man has to eat. I'm a guysy guy except when it comes to food in Mexico.

Opinions please.

Thanks in advance and enjoy!

I avoid the taco stands and carts on windy days. You are more likely to get sick from airborne shit and boogers than on calm days. When the wind is blowing and all that stuff is in the air, it lands on uncooked meat, the cooking surface, the guys hands, the cooked food, the condiments, your tongue and everything else.

If I violate the above rule, I spend a day or two on the toilet, so I learned to behave and eat only in enclosed spaces like reputable restaurants etc. I know it's not always easy to do, but given the alternative it's an easy choice for me.

I read somewhere recently that an analysis of TJ tap water came out cleaner than San Diego water. I'll try to find the reference for you all. It was legit. But buy natural bottled water anyway. My point is that you shouldn't get sick from washing your hands and then sucking your thumb.

You need to have alcohol wipes with you anyway, so wash your hands often and stay away from open air food sources on windy days.

Country John

Belldude2
04-21-09, 20:23
I went a few days ago(report to come soon) and ate some of the tacos at the stand next to the seafood stand obviously also had some of the seafood. On my way out, I also got a burger at the McDonalds that is stateside. Then when I got home I ate a huge burrito from this place near my house. The next day my stomach started grumbling so I went to the restroom and had a bad case of diarrhea. Came out black and very watery, in short bursts, "BLAM, BLAM, BLAM!" Was actually kind of fun. lol

Then I felt better. :D
I didn't get sick or anything I just had to use the restroom. Now I wonder if it was the tacos, the seafood, the burrito or the burger that caused this. First time that eating at Tj caused me any problems. I have a strong stomach anyways, I can eat a lot of crap and not be affected by it.


I would be more than willing to bet that it was the seafood! I wont touch the seafood in mx unless it is deep fried!