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Sgt Perv
06-19-09, 11:49
Maybe the street girls preffer the street or maybe they are stuck there cause their pimps(the ones that have them) don't want to share their profits with the bars and decide to keep them on the street.Can not imagine a chica wanting to be a paradita.

The different weather conditions and the clientele has got to be worse at times.

Standing in one place has got to get old fast.

Can not see the money being better then all clubs.

I have seen better looking chicas on the street than in some of the clubs.

I can understand some not having right papers but not all of them.

I met a paradita a 8 years ago who said she had been in Tijuana for 2 months and had 4 more months on her "contract".

This chica was smoking hot. Face, hair and body.

At first, I could not believe she worked the streets. Hell I would have gave her $60 (I did not only $25 but in pesos) she was that hot and all natural. Great attitude, sweet as could be in the room.

She was one of those chicas that I had to keep away from for my own good, if you know what I mean.

I only had her once in the three day period I was there.

I did not even want her to see me with a different paradita, that is how smitten I was after only 30 min of knowing her. LOL

She had my head spinning for half the day and I still have not forgotten her.

I was thinking about her and that is why I asked the question.

Dornyone
06-19-09, 15:02
"Maybe the street girls preffer the street"
Yes, the bracing, healthy, outdoor life, combined with networking and business challenges on a daily basis. The chance to meet interesting people from foreign lands and blow them. A dream job.

Phordphan
06-19-09, 15:44
My guess the monthly update is reflected on the TJ Health Card some how. Request to see TJ Health card of the provider might cause a stir since high percentage of the providers risk working without it according to 2001 TJ sex practice survey.

Yes, there is a colored sticker on the front of the cards, indicating the date of their last checkup. The sticker is replaced with a new one after the checkup. So, if you're checking the card you must also check the sticker.

Libra 7474
06-19-09, 16:30
I also asked a few times why a SW was working on the streets instead of inside a bar. Most of them told me that being your own boss on the street is more appealing that working inside a bar where one would be subjected to many rules. Plus, I also gathered that many simply might not fair as well working at AB or other places, just because they simply cannot compete with the beauty queens who work there.

Sound7
06-19-09, 17:27
Professor Katsulis research was in 2001 period over a two month period without the effect of drug cartel violence issue, H1NI, current TJ practice or the current recession. This part of her PH.D program.
Katsulis is a medical anthropologist with extensive and impressive credentials and exceptional training, and currently an Associate Professor in Women Studies as ASU. A Ph.d and Master from Yale puts her over the top on the research subject of Sex Workers in TJ.

Page 40, Table 3-1 Primary Route into Sex Work (by Gender) (percentage)
For Female:

Ads 39%
Friends 36%
Stranger 9%
Workplace 7%
Family Member 6%
Partner 3%

Efjayel field reports (FRs) touch on how the females are currently recruited in TJ bars and street.


2009 TJ Sex Worker Research Project: Field Reports

Need 200 to 300 FRs on TJ female Sex Woker in a structured format to compare with Katsulis' 2001 research and finding to establish the current trend. Please keep the interview appropriate, caring and professional. Meet all the pre-qualification and current certification for field work on the subject of sex workers. Able to comprehend the subject matter and female sensitivity. Fluent in language, dialect and culture without exception.

Read Katsulis' research with great care and generate an outline to follow and generate Field Reports (FRs). Refer to her reference material for additional clarification, if needed. Deviation from Katsulis baseline would require additional research and supporting fact finding including collaboration material.

Self-funding required and implied risk assumed for all phases.


I don't know. But interesting that you brought this up cause I've asked a few bar girls if they started on the street since I figured they all start at the bottom as SW. But surprisingly they all said they started in the bars. One told me she started at Chicago Club but got penalized cause she refused to work over time so she left and joined AB. She then moved to HK cause AB had too much competition.

Another girl was a Mexican-American girl that surprisingly lived near me about ten years ago. She then moved to Italy with a sugar daddy but when that finished, she ended up in TJ where she started in HK and has been there ever since.

An AB girl told me she entered prostitution because her friend used to do it and made good money working at AB. So she decided to do it as well. She applied for AB and was accepted.

A girl from Tropical Bar told me she had only been working there for about a week. She answered an AD in a newspaper and got the job.

I've asked many other bar girls and they all had similar stories but apparently none of them started on the street. Maybe the street girls preffer the street or maybe they are stuck there cause their pimps(the ones that have them) don't want to share their profits with the bars and decide to keep them on the street.

Sound7
06-19-09, 17:32
With the monthly pressure to pass the health test can someone just generate a "fake sticker" easily and drop-out of the monthly checks ? Any special tag marking on the sticker?

Yes, there is a colored sticker on the front of the cards, indicating the date of their last checkup. The sticker is replaced with a new one after the checkup. So, if you're checking the card you must also check the sticker.

Libra 7474
06-19-09, 18:18
With the monthly pressure to pass the health test can someone just generate a "fake sticker" easily and drop-out of the monthly checks ? Any special tag marking on the sticker?You have a good point. The sticker is nothing but a round piece of blue or red paper with manually written date of the next checkup. But I also think that the date of a checkup is automatically incoded into the card's magnetic strip. The cops are supposed to scan the cards through their hand-held device to verify the information. But again, I ve talked to some girls who hung out right outside the police station and did not have cards at all. Seems like the cops are not that bent on enforcing.

Sgt Perv
06-19-09, 19:30
2009 TJ Sex Worker Research Project: Field Reports

Need 200 to 300 FRs on TJ female Sex Woker in a structured format to compare with Katsulis' 2001 research and finding to establish the current trend. Please keep the interview appropriate, caring and professional. Meet all the pre-qualification and current certification for field work on the subject of sex workers. Able to comprehend the subject matter and the sensitivity. Fluent in language and culture without exception.

Read Katsulis' research with great care and generate an outline to follow and generate Field Reports (FRs)r. Refer to her references for additional information if needed. Deviation from Katsulis baseline would require additional research and supporting fact finding.

Self-funding required for all phases.That is well written and funny.

Jackson is such a visionary.

He has already set up a forum to post all findings and field all questions concerning subject matter.

LOL

Sgt Perv
06-19-09, 21:37
With the monthly pressure to pass the health test can someone just generate a "fake sticker" easily and drop-out of the monthly checks ? Any special tag marking on the sticker?Does not seem like it would take much with a computer unless it has a raised seal.

Knowing that it is actually hers and not a friends is another concern.

Where there is a will there is a scam.

All considered, it is far better to see a health card than not see a card.

Efjayel
06-19-09, 22:07
Efjayel field reports (FRs) touch on how the females are currently recruited in TJ bars and street.


2009 TJ Sex Worker Research Project: Field Reports

Need 200 to 300 FRs on TJ female Sex Woker in a structured format to compare with Katsulis' 2001 research and finding to establish the current trend. Please keep the interview appropriate, caring and professional. Meet all the pre-qualification and current certification for field work on the subject of sex workers. Able to comprehend the subject matter and the sensitivity. Fluent in language and culture without exception.

Read Katsulis' research with great care and generate an outline to follow and generate Field Reports (FRs)r. Refer to her references for additional information if needed. Deviation from Katsulis baseline would require additional research and supporting fact finding.

Self-funding required for all phases.
WTF? I feel like I'm reading a contract here. What are you talking about?






I met a SW a 8 years ago who said she had been in Tijuana for 2 months and had 4 more months on her "contract".
Did she happen to mention who contracter her?





"Maybe the street girls preffer the street"
Yes, the bracing, healthy, outdoor life, combined with networking and business challenges on a daily basis. The chance to meet interesting people from foreign lands and blow them. A dream job.
What do you mean? I wasn't talking about girls wanting to work as a prostitute.

I was talking about girls who ALREADY ARE prostitutes, if they prefer working in a bar or on the street. The morality and dangers of prostitution are of another subject matter. Please pay attention.

Reinaldo
06-20-09, 03:13
Seems like the cops are not that bent on enforcing.

It's not up to the cops to enforce the health card requirement. There's a city agency Municipal Medical Services SMM in spanish that does that. The cops provide back up when the inspectors come around.

Sound7
06-20-09, 06:00
TJ forum members would greatly benefit by having a Faculty Advisor like Professor Katsulis from ASU. I am not sure if Professor Katsulis would accept this honorary position.
S7

WTF? I feel like I'm reading a contract here. What are you talking about?

Did she happen to mention who contracter her?

What do you mean? I wasn't talking about girls wanting to work as a prostitute.

I was talking about girls who ALREADY ARE prostitutes, if they prefer working in a bar or on the street. The morality and dangers of prostitution are of another subject matter. Please pay attention.

Sound7
06-20-09, 06:24
Pay for thirty and get 60 minutes. 2 x 1

Promotion of what? 2 girls for the price of one?

Thanks for those links Rabo Rojo. Although I remember there was a scene where Cheech was hired as a barker to get customers into the Hooker bars. They show the Zona and some of the bars. Those are the parts I want to see. I'm wondering what bars they used.

Member #4450
06-20-09, 07:05
I couldn't possible have a girl to show me her health card, and they would get offended if I ask to to see it.
It could be many reasons why most girls refused to show their health card. Maybe is expired or the real name is in the card. When I started mongering in TJ I used to ask for the card in rare occasions and they always find an excuse like she left it with a friend or whatever BS, so I don't ask anymore hoping they have no health issues.
Had anyone ask to see this card?
Have you ever seen an inspector checking on the paraditas?

Sgt Perv
06-20-09, 07:33
paraditasParaditas - Standing girls.

So much more accurate than streetwalker (moving) or alley girls and less confusing.

Alley girls could be either paraditas or SW.

SWs are not paraditas.

All paraditas are not in the alley.

Paraditas have health cards SW have no Health cards.

I will use this from now on to be more accurate.

Thank you HornyTraveler for my new word.

Super Gato
06-20-09, 18:56
I've asked many other bar girls and they all had similar stories but apparently none of them started on the street. Maybe the street girls preffer the street or maybe they are stuck there cause their pimps(the ones that have them) don't want to share their profits with the bars and decide to keep them on the street.

There is definitely a class system with regard to sex workers, not just in Mexico, but everywhere. One only need to look at the high-class $2000+ night escorts in the US all the way down to the crack addicted streetwalker that will blow you for $10.00

The bar girls I've asked in Mexico in the zonas are all exclusively bar girls and none started out at the street girl (or in the boystowns of Nuevo Laredo or Reynosa, door girls). A bar girl starts out a bar girl and will either exit the game when she's lost her looks or will rarely resort to the street. These girls have a price in their mind of their session worth and will not lower it (this is why girls aren't having 2x1 sales in a rough economy). The bar girls see themselves as servidoras and the street girls as putas. Even though to many of the customers -- and society in general -- do not see the difference.

In addition to the street girls that may have a pimp or boyfriend controlling them, many of them actually lack the self esteem to think they can get bar girl prices. Some don't know any better.

In most of my non-scientific interviews with service providers I've found many enter the game after hearing from their friends or cousins about the money to be had. Since most of these girls are poor and single mothers it is easy to trade off the sin of prostitution with money for her kid, nice clothes and men who tell them they're pretty.

I was in the Nuevo Laredo Boystown Thursday night and it was dead. I ran into two girls I've seen over the years I've never sessioned with since they are a little too old and fea for me. But we sat at a taco stand about how dead it was and one asked if other cities are better for their trade. I told them about the high prices girls in the beach towns can get and about the Zona Norte of TJ where bar girls made less (or about the same, depending on the quality of the girl/club) as the NLBT girls but there was a much larger supply of customers.

On some of my trips I've run into favoritas from Nuevo Laredo working in AB, HK and CC. Most came because they heard from friends about how there's more business in TJ than the other border towns. One ATF favorita I ran into at CC would work there and at AB when she'd come to TJ for a month a few time a year to get more money in the bank (she also had a sugar daddy that would fly her to beach weekends, a few years ago she had another sugar daddy that lived in San Diego that rented an apartment for her in TJ) When I saw her last she said preferred CC because it was more laid back and like some of the bars in NL but the money was better at AB. She also knew her competition and that she could make more money as one of the hotties in CC or the NL bars than as a second tier girl at AB. As she gets older she knows she's only got limited time left before she retires.

Ninguno Especial
06-20-09, 19:16
10 years ago the line between bar girls and street girls (not walkers) in TJ was more clearly defined. Over the years I know of at least 3 dozen former street girls working in Adelitas and another 2 dozen moving over to Chicago Club.

Some remained in the bars, others returned to the streets after dealing with too many back stabbing gossipy bar chicas, drunken guys reeking of ash tray breath, etc.

Lately I get as much GFE from street girls for 200 pesos as I did from bar girls for 500 pesos.

Viva street girls!!!

JesseJames
06-21-09, 00:36
10 years ago the line between bar girls and street girls (not walkers) in TJ was more clearly defined. Over the years I know of at least 3 dozen former street girls working in Adelitas and another 2 dozen moving over to Chicago Club.

Some remained in the bars, others returned to the streets after dealing with too many back stabbing gossipy bar chicas, drunken guys reeking of ash tray breath, etc.

Lately I get as much GFE from street girls for 200 pesos as I did from bar girls for 500 pesos.

Viva street girls!!!

All the SW, that I've gone with, in TJ, are dolls. They are very friendly and sweet. I've never had a troubled one. I could definetly develop a relationship with almost any of them. All SW I go with are beautiful, with great bodies. I wish I spoke decent Spanish.

TJ club girls are very nice and sexy too and give you little kisses and stuff, but SW are best for FS and GFE, in my opinion.

As to the Professor, I couldn't care less about the ZN hierarchy. But it is interesting that gays go to TJ beach for their fun. A must for me to avoid. She obviously put a lot of effort into that report.

TJ is a great scene. I don't know why SoCal guys risk getting busted, by cops, picking up SW in their cars. Costing them thousands of $ for lawyers and getting their cars back. Or get ripped off in the bs clubs and massage joints. When they can easily go to TJ for the real thing.

Sgt Perv
06-21-09, 05:27
Lately I get as much GFE from street girls for 200 pesos as I did from bar girls for 500 pesos.

Viva street girls!!!Some bar girls are asking as much as 800 pesos now!

I prefer to have 2-3 paraditas and use the clubs for rest/refresh and entertainment in between sessions.

If I find a paraditas I really like, I can just double the time or take her to my hotel for TLN and I am still ahead of the game ( pops per dollar).

Phordphan
06-21-09, 16:38
One question I have, being the pedantic nitwit I am. Maybe a native Spanish speaker can assist.

The word paradita is used a lot. However, I thought I heard a taxi drive use "paredita" with me on a few occasions. Now "pared" makes more sense to me, being Spanish for wall, and the girls ceratinly stand against the wall.

So, which is correct: Paradita or Paredita?

Anyone...

Anyone...

Bueller...

Libra 7474
06-21-09, 22:42
One question I have, being the pedantic nitwit I am. Maybe a native Spanish speaker can assist.

The word paradita is used a lot. However, I thought I heard a taxi drive use "paredita" with me on a few occasions. Now "pared" makes more sense to me, being Spanish for wall, and the girls ceratinly stand against the wall.

So, which is correct: Paradita or Paredita?

Anyone...

Anyone...

Bueller...Paradita, which means "the ones who is standing". I am 100% certain. I am not a native spanish speaker, but I speak spansih well

Jbizzy979
06-21-09, 23:14
I have to say that I have had a totally different experience with street girls, compared to chicks from Adelitas. I have had some good experiences with street girls but their not as consistent as the one's in Adelitas and the sexiness factor is miles away in comparison. As far as performance I have had good session with street girls, but rarely anything to brag about, and as far as the 200 peso price it doesn't come with fully nude or multiple position sometimes even no BJ. If your going on the cheap and just need to get your jolly's off than you can't beat the price, if sexiness and a good performance is what your looking for than your best bet (not your only) is to go to Adelitas.

Hands Down

Sgt Perv
06-21-09, 23:20
The word paradita is used a lot. However, I thought I heard a taxi drive use "paredita" with me on a few occasions. Now "pared" makes more sense to me, being Spanish for wall, and the girls ceratinly stand against the wall.So, which is correct: Paradita or Paredita?Actual Translations/definitions :
Paredita is a diminutive of pared

pa·red Feminine - Noun - Singular

Diminutives: paredilla, paredillas, paredita, pareditas, pareduela, pareduelas
Aumentatives: paredona, paredonas, paredota, paredotas

1. wall; Synonyms: paramento; Muro, obra de albañilería vertical que cierra o limita un espacio. ; En alpinismo, corte vertical o perpendicular en la cara de una montaña. ; Cara o superficie lateral de un cuerpo.
http://www.wordmagicsoft.com/dictionary/es-en/paredita.php

paradita is a diminutive of parada

pa·ra·da Feminine - Noun - Singular

Diminutives: paradilla, paradillas, paradita, paraditas
Aumentatives: paradona, paradonas, paradota, paradotas

1. stop, halt, standstill, stop-off, fare-stage, surcease; Synonyms: cese, alto, frenazo, interrupción, pausa, detención, detenimiento, estancamiento, punto muerto; Cese, destitución, hecho de cesar. ; Destitución o cesación en el ejercicio de un empleo o cargo. ; Cesación, acción o resultado de cesar [suspenderse, acabarse una cosa]. ; Cesación, acción o resultado de cesar [dejar de desempeñar algún empleo o cargo].
2. stop, stopping, check;

http://www.wordmagicsoft.com/dictionary/es-en/paradita.php

Several articles referring to prostitution and Paraditas (little ones who stand).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXVoupQvo5A
http://www.allwomencount.net/EWC%20Sex%20Workers/Tijuana%20Sex%20Workers.htm
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/01/23/MNG32ATVFN1.DTL

When I first looked the word up (after HorneyTraveler posted it), I found a picture of a worker that said "Paradita-standing girl" so I thought of it as a reference to the chicas.

Member #4450
06-22-09, 00:17
One question I have, being the pedantic nitwit I am. Maybe a native Spanish speaker can assist.

The word paradita is used a lot. However, I thought I heard a taxi drive use "paredita" with me on a few occasions. Now "pared" makes more sense to me, being Spanish for wall, and the girls ceratinly stand against the wall.

So, which is correct: Paradita or Paredita?

Anyone...

Anyone...

Bueller...

Two different words.
Pared means wall got nothing to do with paraditas.
Paraditas is standing up, alley girls are standing against a wall, even standing against a tree or a car is the same they are paraditas.
Paredita is incorrect.
Now send me that check for the translation fees!

Member #4450
06-22-09, 00:56
Some bar girls are asking as much as 800 pesos now!
Don't pay it always negotiate down to $60 , if we pay 800 now it will go up to
1000 pesos later.

I prefer to have 2-3 paraditas and use the clubs for rest/refresh and entertainment in between sessions.
Quantity vs quality?
I always worry about paraditas because I think they more likely to catch STDs from been with too many customers daily.
I've never had a paradita taking a quick shower just wipe and go.
No offense but they're more likely to screw some drug addict for U$15
I've seen a few filthy guys making a deal with the paraditas and honestly I have never seen one in the clubs with the exception of some PERVERTS! :D

Sgt Perv
06-22-09, 02:57
Don't pay it always negotiate down to $60 , if we pay 800 now it will go up to 1000 pesos later.I would pay 800 pesos before I paid $60 USD.

Now you have me back to economics.

800 pesos is slightly less than $60 USD.

A few years ago the club price was either 500-600 pesos or $50-$60 USD.

Since the exchange rate has changed, they still ask for the same USD but want 650 -800 pesos!

Uninformed people have already gave them a raise by using USD (never pay more then $50 USD, slightly more than 660 pesos now).

Their equalization of $15 USD !

Now when the exchange rates drop, these same people will complain because the clubs will raise the rate so they can maintain the income they are used to having.
This is why I push the pesos.

I am not cheap I am somewhat informed.

I am trying to help others.

Blend to host country's economics do not force yours on them.


Quantity vs quality

No offense but they're more likely to screw some drug addict for U$15
I've seen a few filthy guys making a deal with the paraditas and honestly I have never seen one in the clubs with the exception of some PERVERTS! :D
Actually, the drug addicts only have to pay 150 pesos ($11.25 USD) because they are locals.

Us "Foreigners"/tourist are always charged more including the taco stands.
That is why I have a paradita pay for things. ;)

I am not filthy!

After each session I wash and then dry Mr.Happy.

I pull the pillow cases off, then dry him on the pillow, then put the pillow case back on. You never know who had their head on that cover.:D

Those virgins you do in the clubs ,are just as likely to have something from a guy who spends more money.

Money does not mean disease free.

Phordphan
06-22-09, 06:35
Thanks, gents.

I'll turn up my hearing aid!!

What you guys say makes perfect sense now. Spanish idioms really throw me sometimes.

:D

Sgt Perv
06-22-09, 07:12
Quantity vs quality?

I always worry about paraditas because I think they more likely to catch STDs from been with too many customers daily.

I've never had a paradita taking a quick shower just wipe and go.Sometimes paraditas leave to end the session and then go to their own room and shower (safety, now they have money they do not want stolen).

Now streetwalkers are the addict specials and as far as hygiene goes :eek:

I do not deal with them at all.

I have been offered $5 and $10 specials from sw but, not on my life would I have sex with one.

Member #4450
06-22-09, 07:45
I would pay 800 pesos before I paid $60 USD.

Now you have me back to economics.

800 pesos is slightly less than $60 USD.

A few years ago the club price was either 500-600 pesos or $50-$60 USD.

Since the exchange rate has changed, they still ask for the same USD but want 650 -800 pesos!



Their equalization of $15 USD !

Now when the exchange rates drop, these same people will complain because the clubs will raise the rate so they can maintain the income they are used to having.
This is why I push the pesos.

I am not cheap I am somewhat informed.

I am trying to help others.

Blend to host country's economics do not force yours on them.
Uninformed people have already gave them a raise by using USD (never pay more then $50 USD, slightly more than 660 pesos now).
OK you win!
You got me lost with numbers again lol!
I thought $800 pesos were $70 USD
I never use pesos I don't see the difference the girls will charge you the equal
to the dollar so is the same thing for me.




Actually, the drug addicts only have to pay 150 pesos ($11.25 USD) because they are locals.
Your kidding right?
Drug addicts are really doing the alley girls?
Needle users can share Stds with the girls, yeah the club girls also are at risk but I think they are better control by the clubs because they have to show the health card every time they start their shift on the other hand no one controls the paraditas so the risk for STDs is greater I think?


Us "Foreigners"/tourist are always charged more including the taco stands.
That is why I have a paradita pay for things. ;)
Freaking tacos are a buck, how much she pay?


I am not filthy!
I wasn't referring to you I said "Some Perverts" :D




I pull the pillow cases off, then dry him on the pillow, then put the pillow case back on. You never know who had their head on that cover.:D
No big deal I always put the pillow under her ass for support!:D


Those virgins you do in the clubs ,are just as likely to have something from a guy who spends more money.
Money does not mean disease free.
Maybe so but I feel more comfortable with a clean bar girl.
Some paraditas never shower when working, and they do you for a buck that
to me is disgusting!

Member #4450
06-22-09, 07:54
I have to say that I have had a totally different experience with street girls, compared to chicks from Adelitas. I have had some good experiences with street girls but their not as consistent as the one's in Adelitas and the sexiness factor is miles away in comparison. As far as performance I have had good session with street girls, but rarely anything to brag about, and as far as the 200 peso price it doesn't come with fully nude or multiple position sometimes even no BJ. If your going on the cheap and just need to get your jolly's off than you can't beat the price, if sexiness and a good performance is what your looking for than your best bet (not your only) is to go to Adelitas.

Hands Down
I agree!
200 pesos only get you a hairy dead beaver under the skirt, nothing else!

Sgt Perv
06-22-09, 09:14
I agree!

200 pesos only get you a hairy dead beaver under the skirt, nothing else!300 pesos gets me everything !

My real cost because I used pesos about $22.

Same deal just using USD $30.

Bargaining power does go along with using pesos.

I saved about $8 because I used pesos plus my head.

Paraditas can get tacos for 5 pesos (35-40 cents US)

Best I can do is 10 pesos.

They save me pesos on most things ex. cigs,booze in liquor store. She does not get the tourist tax like I do.


I never use pesos I don't see the difference the girls will charge you the equal to the dollar so is the same thing for me.You are not charged the same for anything, always less when using pesos and have more bargaining options. ;)

It is like getting an automatic 8% discount just because you are using pesos.

Your skill in negotiations adds more savings.

Most guys (Americans not using MXN), I could follow around the zona and easily spend $80 to their $100. Partaking in the exact same thing as them.

On your next trip to TJ, Try something.

Get almost $50 worth of MXN ( 6 100 bills).

Do not show any USD in the bar and pay in MXN.

Take a cheat sheet with the price of things I already stated.

Before that 600 pesos is gone you will see the actual difference.

Even try negotiate an arriba when all she thinks you have is pesos.

After the deal is made ,tell her all you have is USD.

Watch the price jump 5-10 USD.

It is not a penny for penny direct exchange between MXN and USD.

Using MXN it is in your favor, Using usd it is in their favor.

Give it a try. You have nothing at all to lose.

Sgt Perv
06-22-09, 09:55
Maybe so but I feel more comfortable with a clean bar girl.Are you referring to the sweaty chica who was crawling on the "clean" stage floor and whose almost bare ass is sitting on a "clean" chair ?

The same chica with all the "clean" DNA samples on her titties and "clean", fingers put in her vagina for tips?

The same chica that your are lucky number 4 for the night?

Yes , sounds real comfy.

It is all a matter of perspective.

That is what is so good about having all the options in the zona.

We can all get what, we perceive, suits us best.

DJ FourMoney
06-22-09, 21:28
300 pesos gets me everything !

My real cost because I used pesos about $22.

Same deal just using USD $30.

Bargaining power does go along with using pesos.

I saved about $8 because I used pesos plus my head.

Paraditas can get tacos for 5 pesos (35-40 cents US)

Best I can do is 10 pesos.

They save me pesos on most things ex. cigs,booze in liquor store. She does not get the tourist tax like I do.

You are not charged the same for anything, always less when using pesos and have more bargaining options. ;)

It is like getting an automatic 8% discount just because you are using pesos.

Your skill in negotiations adds more savings.

Most guys (Americans not using MXN), I could follow around the zona and easily spend $80 to their $100. Partaking in the exact same thing as them.

On your next trip to TJ, Try something.

Get almost $50 worth of MXN ( 6 100 bills).

Do not show any USD in the bar and pay in MXN.

Take a cheat sheet with the price of things I already stated.

Before that 600 pesos is gone you will see the actual difference.

Even try negotiate an arriba when all she thinks you have is pesos.

After the deal is made ,tell her all you have is USD.

Watch the price jump 5-10 USD.

It is not a penny for penny direct exchange between MXN and USD.

Using MXN it is in your favor, Using usd it is in their favor.

Give it a try. You have nothing at all to lose.

Your right, you have nothing to loose, but TIME....

It takes me roughly 2 hours to drive to the boarder and 2 to come back.

This won't work on Weekends I bet, only during the week and not on Friday because less tourist means less chances to make money and in this trade ladies tend to take whatever they can get and make it up later in the week.

Just what are you getting for your $22US???

Could I get GFE or PSE with no Spanish Speaking skills for $22US? I don't think so...

Sgt Perv
06-22-09, 22:37
Your right, you have nothing to loose, but TIME....

It takes me roughly 2 hours to drive to the boarder and 2 to come back.

This won't work on Weekends I bet, only during the week and not on Friday because less tourist means less chances to make money and in this trade ladies tend to take whatever they can get and make it up later in the week.

Just what are you getting for your $22US???

Could I get GFE or PSE with no Spanish Speaking skills for $22US? I don't think so...300 pesos is an over price.

250 pesos gets me multi positions, bj, nude and as close to a gfe as I want.

300 pesos might get me anal but Mr. Happy does not like getting shit faced in the zona.

I have limited Spanish Speaking skills but I have some game in my mannerism.

I have sign language and a gentle smile on my face and speak softly never loudly.

I have patience and timing on my side.

You act rushed she will not bargain.

I basically know what is going on around me.

I appear confidant and not needy ( I can have anyone I want but you are my choice ,maybe).

I am clean with no bling.

I use pesos.

I keep an appearance up in the zona (non threatening).

How long does it take to do a lap in the zona ? 15 min ? 10 min ?

I acknowledge them when I pass.

I have a sense of judgment (timing when to ask).

I keep a sense of humor with them.

I treat them respectfully.

I am polite and not crude.

I do not act rich or poor.

I act like I value the peso.

It is not what you do it is how you do it.

I avoid rush hours and large crowds.

Those periods I rest and do other things.(scouting)

I keep my eyes open and watch how chicas react to others (very important info).

I may do something nice for one paradita so some others can see.

If I get them to compete a little, cool because that means price and service.

If you walk up to the chicas and act arrogant ,rich ,nervous,disrespectful or straight up bargaining then you will not make a good deal.

Got to lay a little seed and not just in her.

I would not drive 2 hours just for just one piece nor would I spend more time on the road than in TJ.

TJ Fannatic seems like he has things down pat.

Cool
06-22-09, 23:05
I couldn't possible have a girl to show me her health card, and they would get offended if I ask to to see it.
It could be many reasons why most girls refused to show their health card. Maybe is expired or the real name is in the card. When I started mongering in TJ I used to ask for the card in rare occasions and they always find an excuse like she left it with a friend or whatever BS, so I don't ask anymore hoping they have no health issues.
Had anyone ask to see this card?
Have you ever seen an inspector checking on the paraditas?

Yes, I've seen inspectors checking.

Cool
06-22-09, 23:06
Does not seem like it would take much with a computer unless it has a raised seal.

Knowing that it is actually hers and not a friends is another concern.

Where there is a will there is a scam.

All considered, it is far better to see a health card than not see a card.

Anyone with a health card phobia should see club girls exclusively, however, girls who stand (not moving) religiously probably have a health card.

Cool
06-22-09, 23:12
I seen a Mexican ID at a cambio store and it said sexo M. Does the M mean female?

Cool
06-22-09, 23:16
I would highly advise against trying to re-enter the USA without proper identification. Apply for a Passport Card, they are $45.00. If you need it within a few weeks, request the Expedite Service which runs an additional $60.00. $105.00 seems like a grip of money, but you have to understand that it will keep you safe. Your life is worth more than $105.00. That's just my take on it.

There is no expedite service for the card.

Cool
06-22-09, 23:23
are you saying my gfs were peeing on me? :eek:

the only white thing i have seen come (drip) out of a female was either yeast infection,me or from the guy before me.

after a vasectomy , a male's fluid is clear-ish.

let's not be dumb. most of the time with a sg it is lubricante. most of us would love to fantasize that we made the girl cum.

Sgt Perv
06-22-09, 23:45
Let's not be dumb. Most of the time with a SG it is lubricante. Most of us would love to fantasize that we made the girl cum.I was not talking about the chicas. lol

I was referring to my real gfs in the USA.

Member #4450
06-23-09, 00:08
It takes me roughly 2 hours to drive to the boarder and 2 to come back.

I Feel better now.
I thought I was the only insane driving 5 hours round trip to get laid:)

Sgt Perv
06-23-09, 00:26
Your right, you have nothing to loose, but TIME.I said/meant on your next planned trip.

No time is being lost.

Libra 7474
06-23-09, 00:35
I seen a Mexican ID at a cambio store and it said sexo M. Does the M mean female?M means Masculino which means Male.

Libra 7474
06-23-09, 01:15
It's not up to the cops to enforce the health card requirement. There's a city agency Municipal Medical Services SMM in spanish that does that. The cops provide back up when the inspectors come around.I had no idea, thank you for the info. I think my premise was based on the fact I've seen cops asking a woman for the card. But I think it was just because she was a sure bet not have a card -from the States, in her 50s, and unfortunately, an obvious drug user.

Reinaldo
06-23-09, 04:31
I seen a Mexican ID at a cambio store and it said sexo M. Does the M mean female?

No. The M is short for masculino ie sexo masculino= male

Phordphan
06-23-09, 17:13
Your right, you have nothing to loose, but TIME....

It takes me roughly 2 hours to drive to the boarder and 2 to come back.

This won't work on Weekends I bet, only during the week and not on Friday because less tourist means less chances to make money and in this trade ladies tend to take whatever they can get and make it up later in the week.

Just what are you getting for your $22US???

Could I get GFE or PSE with no Spanish Speaking skills for $22US? I don't think so...

Perv-o is correct. Pesos net a bargain every time they're employed, unless you're patronizing a place that deals exclusively in dollars and they give a crappy exchange rate.

It works days, nights, weekends. You may and may not be able to strike a good bargain during busy periods, but using pesos, at a roughly 10:1 rate, will net you better deals, no matter what.

And, yes, with practice, you can get some semblance of GFE for your $22. It's still a buyer's market.

Sound7
06-23-09, 18:24
Please promote 2010 Viva TJ ******300 peso+****** W2S

Perv-o is correct. Pesos net a bargain every time they're employed, unless you're patronizing a place that deals exclusively in dollars and they give a crappy exchange rate.

It works days, nights, weekends. You may and may not be able to strike a good bargain during busy periods, but using pesos, at a roughly 10:1 rate, will net you better deals, no matter what.

And, yes, with practice, you can get some semblance of GFE for your $22. It's still a buyer's market.

Sgt Perv
06-23-09, 23:31
Could I get GFE or PSE with no Spanish Speaking skills for $22US? I don't think so...Will you get a GFE or PSE everytime you pay $60 to a bar girl?

I don't just think you will not, I know for sure you will not every time (maybe 50/50).:(

They are all chicas with their own way of doing things.

This is what makes it so interesting.

Your own skills (how you treat and judge a chica) makes the most difference.

With the paraditas I have 2-3 chances with the same amount of money.

If/When I get a bad session with a bar girl I am somewhat sad.

But with the paraditas, I am more like "Ok, 1 down 2 to go. Next!".

Cool
06-24-09, 01:34
Simply put converting to pesos pays for the room with a SG.

Cool
06-24-09, 01:37
No. The M is short for masculino ie sexo masculino= male

Thats what I thought. That is scary because I seen an ID where the person has hair like a woman and almost looks like a woman but the M confirmed my suspicion.

Cool
06-24-09, 01:39
I was not talking about the chicas. lol

I was referring to my real gfs in the USA.

Your definitely a sex addict. Anyone who has 3+ girlfriends in the US has no reason to step foot in TJ more than 4 times a year.

Sgt Perv
06-24-09, 06:18
Your definitely a sex addict. Anyone who has 3+ girlfriends in the US has no reason to step foot in TJ more than 4 times a year.Not saying I have three plus girlfriends but I will stop going to TJ when all women are the same.

Efjayel
06-24-09, 10:02
I Feel better now.
I thought I was the only insane driving 5 hours round trip to get laid:)


You are. I take the bus. I can sleep to and back from Tj. Compared to driving, it's only like 15 minutes more cause of the stops. Definitely worth it so you can rest on the trip.

DJ FourMoney
06-24-09, 13:18
You are. I take the bus. I can sleep to and back from Tj. Compared to driving, it's only like 15 minutes more cause of the stops. Definitely worth it so you can rest on the trip.

While in Santa Ana, I got all the Bus information and its reasonable given gas prices and parking.

Thanks Perv for breaking it down. I've been on a Saturday and during the week, both at night and overspent both times.

I guess these would be alley girls for $22US since you mentioned "naked" when the AB girl(s) I have been with stripped down to nothing...

I have things to buy but the need to get laid is calling...

Sgt Perv
06-24-09, 21:45
Thanks Perv for breaking it down. I've been on a Saturday and during the week, both at night and overspent both times.

I guess these would be alley girls for $22US since you mentioned "naked" when the AB girl (s) I have been with stripped down to nothing.Paraditas are not only in the alley check Constitucion also, at night it is safe.

Use pesos and save for the next chica.

When bargaining act like 100 pesos is $10 and 200 is $20.

This aids in your appearance and savings.

Best of luck.

Dornyone
06-26-09, 05:50
My wingman is about to return to the UK so I brought him down to TJ for a swift midweek afternoon's mongering. We drove down from OC at about 12, parked at the $8 lot nearest the turnstiles and walked in. Cab to HK's then walked over to La Perla for lunch, the obligatory marlin tacos and a few beers.
We went back over to HK's, there were a lot of chicas but the place was pretty dead, about 2-3 chicas/guy.
After a beer we decided to go to Adelitas. This too was a great ratio, saw a few past experiences which I decided not to repeat and settled down to check things out. My buddy picked a chica with a huge rack and ass, $60? gone arriba.

A very good looking gal kept flitting around the place, making eye contact then disappearing. Finally I spotted her alone and walked over, we negotiated the deal and went up. I should describe her first, so that nobody makes the same mistake. Very pretty face, from Guadelajara she says, 5'0 plus shoes (which she never removes) petite frame, about D cup boobs, tight ass. Most identifying feature is this stupid flicked up hairstyle she has, like from an old "Space family Robinson" re run.
We get to the room, she says "relax, get on the bed" so I disrobe after she spreads the sheet. Her phone rings, "tranquilo" she says, while writing down a tel # on a piece of TP. Finally those jugs are unleashed and I get a look at her...they hang to her waist. No problem, I'm not the athlete I was 25 yrs ago either. She pulled her white spandex top up and let it hang around her neck, didn't want to spoil that "unique" hairdo.
OK, here's the wierdest part, she "papered" me, like you would if you were taking a shit at a porta potty. Layered paper all around my dick so it was sticking up like a rubber encased groom on a wedding cake. Mechanical CBJ, then started to mount up CG, "oy, grande"...more delays while she went to the bag for lube. All the time she's spitting on the floor (lovely girl, this) probably didn't like the taste of rubbers. Contorted face while I tried to get into her and the mood,, we fuck a little with her on top. I want to go mish, we wrestle a bit then...final straw, she goes for a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140). I have to say I was losing interest by this time. She starts trying to get Mr Happy in the mood again. Fuck it says I, just a hand job will do, which she managed without too much fuss, despite the knock coming at a measured 20 minutes.
All in all a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor performance at the end of a 2 hr drive. I hope my description might save some of you guys from this twat.
A twist in the tale was that as we stood in line, I spied a guy immediately in front of us, admiring his puta pics, damn, there she was! stupid hair do and all. So if you crossed back over today with a handful of pics of zona chicas, a fellow monger was behind you.

Efjayel
06-26-09, 08:38
Nice story Corny. Do you remember her name?

Dornyone
06-26-09, 15:45
FJL, they change them as often as they change underwear, a better identifier will be that she's from Guadalajara with that stupid hairdo and big titties. She has a very different look from the usual chicas, no miniskirt etc, wears jeans and a white spandex (I think) top. Not much English over what she'll promise (and not deliver) "lotta suckee, good fuckee in room".

Sgt Perv
06-27-09, 04:38
LMAO.

Sorry about your experience but I found it funny as I am sure you sure intended it to sound by the way you wrote the TR.

Guys brag about PSE and GFE but what you had sounded like a POWE.

The Pissed Off Wife Experience is when you ask your wife for sex,she says no but you talk her into it and when it is over you regret the whole attempt. :)

Dornyone
06-27-09, 08:36
Yes Sgt Perv, I don't get bitter with anyone if I bust a nut and still have my watch & wallet at the border.
We're all here to pool info on how best to get P4P, I just thought I'd describe this strange yet attractive twat in detail. I have to say, she has a snapper (if you can access it), not the usual TJ receptacle.
Not worth the show though.
I usually monger in SA where there's less drama, and better value.

Pelongera
06-27-09, 20:00
(PART ONE OF FOUR)

I land in San Diego, board Metropolitan bus #992, put a five in the fare-box, take a day pass, get off the bus at America Plaza, enjoy french toast with (albeit) canned blueberries at Grand Central, and take the Blue Line to Tijuana.

I met stunning Pauline on my last trip at midnight in the corridors of Cascades, the hotel above Hong Kong. I should have taken her then, but at that moment, I wasn't sufficiently open to the possibly of seeing anything doable.

SexinMex. Since I'll have to wait for Pauline, I arranged prior to my departure an escort with SexinMex. As promised, I telephone John at SexinMex upon my arrival.

The first thing John tells me is that the escort I booked last week, Alondra, frequently cancels at the last minute. "Romy? "

I agree to Romy. In an email a week prior, I told him I’d stay in the jacuzzi room at Cascades in order to confirm that the hotel was acceptable to his escorts. Many won’t go there, even with the jacuzzi perk. When I get the exact room number, I let him know. A hour or so later, appointment time rolls around. No Romy.

I wait 20 minutes and call John, who says something to the effect that when he told Romy which hotel, she wasn’t happy. Needless to say, hearing that doesn’t make me happy. In fact, it feels seedy.

For reasons I now regret--like, lack of confidence in my game--I don’t cancel.

Romy arrives an hour and fifteen late.

John is affable fellow, easy enough to talk to. But (1) since he didn’t tell me until the last minute about Alondra’s tendency to cancel at the last minute--if that was really the problem with her--I cannot be sure he had not intended all along to wait until the eleventh hour. In any event, I was screwed out of time and escort options.

I would think that, just as if he knows Alondra is not going to show for $120, he needs to tell us that when her name is first mentioned, (2) so too he needs to tell us which hotels are going to be a problem when he’s asked, not at the last minute.

My sense is that John is a typical American salesman trying apply his sales skills to the Tijuana escort market. And there’s nothing wrong with trying to bring the best looking women to the market as best he can. But in my case, he wasn’t willing to suffer the loss (or lose the "lead, " as they say) when in fact he knew he could not deliver as promised.

Unfortunately, I therefore can’t recommend the service. Since I have just 16 waking hours in Tijuana to fuck as much as I can. I don’t want to lose a 1/8th or a 16th of that time negotiating unknowns or waiting on females who cost more but are not significantly more attractive nor better performers than the top tiers on the streets or in the bars.

On the other hand, if I lived in San Diego, I’d be more inclined to use him again. Nothing he did in terms of keeping me on the line is not atypical of what ordinary American sales people do everyday. But for me, it’s the difference between sales oriented and service oriented.

And at $120, Romy, at least, is priced right.

Romy at SexinMex. (Looks, 8) Recommended. She’s not the classiest escort you’ll ever hang with, but she’s playfully engaging, a fun fuck, petite, and prettier than she realizes. You shouldn’t feel a bait and switch against her sexinmex fotos.

I discover (or recognize) her sexuality in closing moments. As we lie face down not touching one another--I, perfectly satisfied; she, ready to go again but busy reading the dictionary--I see her slide a little closer and on an impulse my leg straddles her booty. She’s a snuggler, (and she brings it out in me, which is pathetic, I know). Her eroticism reminds me of a girlfriend who likes sex for the sake of sex (not necessarily for the sake of having sex with me.)

Her special anatomy is Andalusian in character, light pink, delicate, not prominent, tight lips, small clit, about.4 inches. She gets wet enough on her own, which, for me, may be the essential measure of a good gfe.

On this day, she isn’t able to take the dog in all his glory, but my sense is that limitation was a cycle thing. Her Kagels are reasonably strong. I feel them with my fingers during her orgasm, but not so much with my cock. So I don’t ask if she orgasms during penetration, as I doubt she does with me.

At $120/hour, her services are a good value, especially if she arrives on time.

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Pelongera
06-29-09, 03:32
It’S now 6 PM, midweek, and after having been escorted by a vibrant Romy, I’m spent. I get something to eat.

Refueled, I exit Cascades on Coahuila, turn right on Constitucion, and right again into The Alley to resume collecting data for my amateur research project:

The Question: Can a pasty, middle-aged monger get a blowjob in Tijuana for cien cincuenta pesos, about twelve bucks, (+ propina + hotel)? And if so, who is the best?

Krystal de Puebla at Mini (Looks, 6) Recommended.

The first SG I approach in The Alley, standing about 20 feet from the corner, won’t go less than 30 pesos. The next won’t go less than 20. But Krystal accepts my offer.

Her unfortunately narrow hips are the most obvious characteristic pulling down her looks. She also doesn’t have black hair. She is sufficiently dark-skinned, though, and, when our eyes meet, she smiles in a way I can’t resist.

In the room, she’s great, no hands, no teeth. She even attends to my balls. She doesn’t have the will to give it a full fifteen minutes, so I let her stop. I ask if I could see her pussy. When she pulls apart her labia, she reveals a dark pussy with a conspicuous moisten glow. Omg! Wet to the touch! She got wet sucking my cock! Now, I’m humping air.

I ask her what is her favorite position?

"doggy."

We both pull down her pants.

But if I cum now, I’ll never get through this alley, let alone complete one lap collecting data in Zona Norte! So I pull out.

Maribelle (sp? ) de? At Hotel Coahuila. (4) Not recommended.

Twenty feet West of Krystal, I spot Marybelle. Or, perhaps, she spots me. I look for brown eyes and black hair, both of which she has, but once a provider engages me I often overlook their figures until its too late. Even as we negotiate, I’m not attracted to her, but she quickly takes the offer and hustles me into the room.

Way too much teeth. And she quits the first chance she gets. She proves another example of why I ought to shoe-away the hard-sells.

With Tijuana providers, I’m finding best service comes from providers who act like wanting women at some conservative country-music dance, the ones giving the guys they want non-verbal clues, smiles, glances, or that cute thing they do with their forearms closing their cleavage and squeezing their breasts together to make them look bigger. Maybe it is as simple as finding the ones that are selling their bodies, not their voices.

Rosy de Acapulco at Cascades. (8) Recommended.

Now here’s a sexy little SG. But she won’t go for cein cinquenta. So I bail, enter HK, and look for Paulina. No Paulina. I ask the doorman who says, "she works days now." I look around, spot "Aphrodite, " try but fail to strike a deal with her, walk-out, and accept Rosy’s counter-offer, which will allow me to caress her juicy, womanly body.

She starts by giving a thoughtful, respectable blowjob, no teeth but not a lot of enthusiasm. So I roll her over, which is what I wanted do from the first gaze.

Pop. Excellent service.

The night is too young, and I have too much cash. In the absence of Paulina, I want a threesome. But first, more about the failed negotiations with Aphrodite:

Aphrodite of Sonora (? ) at Hong Kong. (9) Not reviewed.

A 5’4" morena with dark, thick, wavy, shoulder-length hair, including a few cheap blond highlights. She obviously likes to let clumps of hair hang in her face; erotic, latin trash at its best. She has a sister that works with her, although Aphrodite is significantly better looking.

I get no-fucking-where with her, literally nowhere beyond the negotiating table. My strategy of making an offer before they make one does not work with her, not at 800 pesos.

I mention Aphrodite for two reasons: (1) she is great looking: exceptional legs, cute butt, very pretty, and probably new to Hong Kong, as she says. As the negotiations collapse, she says, "Maybe in a month" [I. E. Maybe then she’ll go up for 800 peso]. Not now.

(2) the second reason is that the way in which she rejects my offer is (paradoxically) a fine example of why I prefer latin women. Although she giggles in shock at my offer, she does so in a way that doesn’t insult me. I laugh along. I find Latin women are consistently more thoughtful in the way they reject me.

That said, I’m not really into FOB’s, which is the image she successfully affects with me. Yes, I know the payoff is the highest, I. E. If you find a genuinely aroused newbie who likes to fuck, it doesn’t get any better. But in Tijuana, finding them takes too much practice.

At this stage, I’m also starting to think about putting together a threesome, and there’s no way Aphrodite will participate in that act with me for less a hundred, not because she isn’t bisexual but because she demonstrates knowledge of the sex market and her value in it. So I don’t even counter-offer. Instead, I tell her, let’s keep negotiating.

I walk out of HK, fuck Rosy de Acapulco, and grab a delicious chicken sandwich at the cafe in the alley next to Cascades.

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Sgt Perv
06-29-09, 06:22
The Question: Can a pasty, middle-aged monger get a blowjob in Tijuana for cien cincuenta pesos, about twelve bucks, (+ propina + hotel)? And if so, who is the best? Great self challenge!


The first SG I approach in The Alley, standing about 20 feet from the corner, won’t go less than 30 pesos. The next won’t go less than 20. But Krystal accepts my offer.200 pesos ($15) is not that bad but that was not your mission of 150 pesos.


no-fucking-where with her, literally nowhere beyond the negotiating table. My strategy of making an offer before they make one does not work with her, not at 800 pesos.Not for 800 pesos?

She must need to re-gold plate her pussy because that is $60.

Sounds like your having a great time!

Even pasty, middle-aged mongers (your words) have still got game.

Efjayel
06-29-09, 20:27
I mention Aphrodite for two reasons: (1) she is great looking: exceptional legs, cute butt, very pretty, and probably new to Hong Kong, as she says. As the negotiations collapse, she says, "Maybe in a month" [I. E. Maybe then she’ll go up for 800 peso]. Not now.

(2) the second reason is that the way in which she rejects my offer is (paradoxically) a fine example of why I prefer latin women. Although she giggles in shock at my offer


Shocked at what offer? the 800 pesos?

Pelongera
06-30-09, 05:17
Shocked at what offer? The 800 pesos? Yes, the 800.

And in this market, I think that's a fair offer, even for the hottest in the bar.

I'm not unattractive nor too old.

I try to follow the Getting to Yes strategy with providers (and in life): make a fair offer and walk if they don't recognize it.

Too often, I cave.

But I've learned from experience and these boards that providers who try to squeeze one more increment in the negotiations do the same in the room.

And not in a way that pleases me.

Pelongera
06-30-09, 05:31
Great self challenge!

200 pesos ($15) is not that bad but that was not your mission of 150 pesos.

Not for 800 pesos?

She must need to re-gold plate her pussy because that is $60.

Sounds like your having a great time!

Even pasty, middle-aged mongers (your words) have still got game.Pasty it is. What were my ancestors thinking in selecting translucent skin?

Seriously, thank you for adding the dollar amounts.

I find the idea of getting a sweet blowjob for fifteen dollars nothing less than thrilling.

And of course I appreciate hearing I've got game.

I'm batting 500 on cientos cinquenta, so I'd guess the going rate is not more the 20 bucks, I. E. Any reasonably human looking form should be able to get a condom BJ in Tijuana from just about any SG for 20 bucks.

I find it interesting that pesos accelerate the negotiations. It doesn't matter whether I pad the dollar in their favor or not. And yet, they never say they don't want dollars.

But I'm an infrequent Tijuana visitors. Maybe you regulars have some insight.

My theory is that they're either slow to calculate, which doesn't seem right, because they do it all day, or pesos are easier to conceal from their padrotes?

Pelongera
06-30-09, 05:49
Two Forgettables @ Hong Kong, as in I forgot their names, I won’t do them again, and they aren’t worth describing.

But, at one stage in the bar, the pursuit gets boner hot. To start a threesome, I ask an appealing young woman, Montagne (I think), if she’s bisexual.

As pedestrian as they may be, threesomes are my thing. Through the years, though, I’ve found that there’s an art to putting a good one together, both for play or for not.

If the women know each other, they must have been fantasizing sex with each before I bring it up. If they are non-sexual friends, especially providers, it never gets hot. My guess is that there is too much emotionally at stake for them, should one reveal more than the other can handle. So in the absense of a known pair of lovers, my strategy is to find one bisexual woman, buddy-up with her, and find out who she wants to see eat her pussy.

Montagne tells me she’s not bisexual, except when she has a lot to drink. A believable answer. So I buy her some fichas, anyway, and tell her that I’d like to be with two woman and that I want the second woman to have a big clit. Much to my surprise (and delight), she’s not weirded-out.

Over the next hour, she and I interview several women and, as we do, she keeps talking about big breasts. She keeps picking women with knockers and making gestures about sucking tits. Hmmm. My mistake this night is not flowing with it, not picking the first woman she spots (that is NOT her friend.)

Instead, I push the envelop on clit size. At one stage, an applicant (a BG) confident about her clit size (maybe big for TJ, but not more.5 inches, average, really) applies for the third person. She sits on my lap and insists on me diddling her. Montagne then snuggles up and recognizes a friend walking by whom she thinks might have a big one and flags her over.

Before I know it, we’re all spreading pussy lips and diddling clits trying to make them as big as we can.

But I’m not impressed with their sizes (or looks) and start thinking about Montagne’s boob thing. So I decide to leave and return for Montagne’s dance number at 1am, supposedly. As I leave, I tell her to find a woman whose body she likes, and we’ll go up after she dances.

1 AM, no Montaigne.

Lesson learned: in TJ, strike while the iron is hot. So I settle on two forgettables.

Still, I pop, show them the door, sleep, and look forward to Paulina at 11am.

After a tasty, piping-hot huevos rancheros at Montecarlo (excellent cook) I swing by HK at 11:20 AM. I am told that Paulina will start at 1PM.

Someone de somewhere @ some quarters in the alley. (8) Recommended.

I exit HK on the alley side, turn right, and begin collecting more data for my research on the SG’s. I encounter a pretty little lady, maybe 5’ in heels, but height/weight perfect, indeed, a sexy figure, hair tied back, and the single prettiest pubic hairline in Tijuana. I’d guess she’s 27.

She gives me the very best street bj yet, eclipsing Sandra on Constitution (East). Extremely skillful, using her hand to enhance the service, such as by constricting blood-flow, without allowing her hands to take-over. Master-class.

Perhaps, one of vets can help me recall her name. No good man should live without experiencing her oral skills.

But with a diminishing supply of semen, and my sights still set on Paulina, I stop the job.

So far, of the ten SG’s I’ve asked, five have agreed to doing a cien cincuenta BJ, 2 out of 4 last trip; 3 out of 6 this time.

Paris de Mexico City @ Hong Kong. (8) Recommended.

A 5’3” brunette with thick, straight hair, Paris projects a strong, intelligent presence. Unfortunately, she has breast implants, which discourage me, partly because I’m always afraid to touch them, and partly because I find their existence in our society evidence of our adolescent sensibilities, leaving the women who get them as our aesthetic victims.

In that sense, Paris is for me one of many tragic examples of a woman with prominent, fairly dark sexual anatomy (and in her case, big nipples and a stunning camel-toe pussy) who tries to “feminize” her body by surgically implanting silicon (or whatever) where it doesn’t belong.

I rant.

Despite the implants, I can’t resist Paris’ many other appealing qualities, so I buy her a ficha. Frustrated with last nights threesome, a phony bisexual act, I ask Paris if she’s bisexual. She tells me that, although she does threesomes, she’s not bisexual. But she goes on to say that at HK approximately 1/3 of her co-workers are lesbian, a striking contrast to AB’s Josephina’s estimate that at Adelitas only 3 or 4 individuals are.

Paris also estimates that at HK, 1/3 are bisexual. I’m not sure how credible those numbers are. Paris is a woman’s woman. So in addition to the strong possibility that she is teasing me, I can imagine that her estimates are biased by the likelihood that good percentage of her co-workers attracted to other women (and not necessarily lesbian) are coming on to her.

She then tells me an interesting story about going up with a friend’s friend who was a lesbian. Paris enjoyed the experience saying the usual stuff about the knowing touch. Apparently, the female monger wanted something more “serious,” so she kept returning to Paris, Hong Kong. So Paris cut it off. I was heartened by that story because it proves that the pathetic gene is not gender specific.

I find Paris soulful, deliberate, and sophisticated. GFE material, I should think. On the bar, I place a New York Times, which is not widely distributed in Tijuana. While I might expect a chica to flatter me by looking at it, she goes right for the Arts section, actually pulling it out without asking. That’s cool, and intimate. Indeed, does it get anymore intimate, Mr. Soderberg?
Having been told that Paulina starts at 1pm, I say to Paris, “Yo pago 800 cientos pesos... “

In the room, she provides a good example of a chica performing very well even though we use protection. Indeed, she fucks like a bunny, even preferring doggy.

(And I’m not sure how the lesbian competition can get around that, even with that BS line about the knowing touch!)

But Paris cannot take me lying face down, so she stops the act and has us do something I’ve never tried. Without abandoning doggy, she pushes back and down, snuggling her bunda as close to me as possible. As she squats back, her knees may be off the bed.

God, I love the feeling of a woman’s ass in the clutches of my waist!
But now, for support, I’m relying heavily on my thigh muscles, not my knees. When Al Green’s Full of Fire comes on my amplified iPod, we both start banging in perfect rhythm to the tune’s galloping beat. Needless to say, it works for me. So I try to sustain it. She’s a fine sex-partner.
After I pop, she leaves, and I vacate the room. But as I descend a Cascades staircase to the alley, my thighs give out and my knees buckle. The hazards of sport fuking? Or maybe age. I think of Jay Leno’s joke about falling and not being able to get up.

As I’m about to fall down, I notice that the street chicas ten feet in front of me are out in force. So with Leno’s joke in mind, I grab the railing as though my dignity (if not my life) depends on it. Thankfully, I don’t fall. But I pause.

Then, like an old man who lost his cane, I walk wobbly past the SG’s. What the fuck happen, I think to myself? Was this Paris’ doing? The SG’s must be noticing this! What are they thinking?:

“Cialis, I’ve seen it before.”

“Well then, let me tell you what drugs they need to control in this town because I don’t want some old gringo collapsing on me!”

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Mr Daisy
06-30-09, 07:51
Hi all,

Headed to Tijuana this weekend from San Francisco to blow off some steam. I want to stay across the border this time at a decent hotel, and am will to fork out up to $80. I saw Brockton's recommendations, the la Villa de Zaragoza and the hotel Rio del real. Zaragoza looked ok.

Here's what I'm looking for:

Safe (for my money etc)

AC and kind of clean (step up from travel lodge across the border)

Pool (not required but would be NICE)

Ok with bringing home a date (picked up a local hipster girl last time)

Anyways thanks for your help. Location is not too important unless you deem it so, I'll be cabbing it to and from the Zona.

Thanks for all the info and any and all suggestions.

MR. D

Balto1
06-30-09, 16:21
Mr Daisy asked the exact question I have.

Where would be a good place in the zone or near it that is girl friendly?

Precocious One
06-30-09, 17:25
Good stuff, Pelongera.

In one of the S/C's that I currently frequent, up to 50 percent of the strip_ers were lesbians at one point. Almost all of them would provide sex in the privados, or so I am told.

Also, some of the girls here in the Monterrey S/C's do not have sex and are there just to fleece the customers for fichas. I would say that in one of the clubs that I patronize the number of non-sex girls is around 20 percent. Since Aphrodite rejected you offer of $800 pesos, there is a chance that she is one of these girls. And many of these girls are not meeting their ficha qoutas(9-12 fichas/shift) and subsequently not making their salary($300-400 pesos/shift).

As for me, I just stick to the MP's. There are some things I am currently encountering that I have never seen in my prior visits here.

Needless to say, it is a buyers market right now.

Super Gato
06-30-09, 19:04
Hi all,

Headed to Tijuana this weekend from San Francisco to blow off some steam. I want to stay across the border this time at a decent hotel, and am will to fork out up to $80. I saw Brockton's recommendations, the la Villa de Zaragoza and the hotel Rio del real. Zaragoza looked ok.

Here's what I'm looking for:

Safe (for my money etc)

AC and kind of clean (step up from travel lodge across the border)

Pool (not required but would be NICE)

Ok with bringing home a date (picked up a local hipster girl last time)

Anyways thanks for your help. Location is not too important unless you deem it so, I'll be cabbing it to and from the Zona.

Thanks for all the info and any and all suggestions.

MR. D

I stay at the Hotel Pueblo Amigo when I overnight in Tijuana and sometimes the rates are about $80/nt and include breakfast. In a former life it was a Holiday Inn or something with a large atrium area. It has seen better days but is better than the dumpy places on the CA side. There's no pool but the AC works well and the rooms are large. The TV gets the San Diego and US cable channels mostly as well as the sportsbook dog/horse racing and other sporting events. There's a mini Caliente casino in the lobby with an ATM that dispenses dollars or pesos (I find it runs out of dollars more often than pesos). There's a larger Caliente casino in the same center near a strip club and as well as decent bars and restaurants. It is about a 5 minute walk from the border which is why I like it when I have to get home early in the morning. It is a 500 peso taxi trip to Zona Norte and there are almost always taxis at the sitio on the street just outside the hotel.

I think the rooms have safes but I can't remember as all the hotels are running together in my mind. If it does, it isn't big enough to hold a computer. I keep my valuables way in the back of a closet and have never had a problem.

Pueblo Amigo is chica friendly. In fact the center the hotel is in has a full service massage parlor that will let you take out to the room if you choose. One of the times I stayed there the bellhop told me he could get me a girl if I want to come to the room. It isn't a hooker hotel but if you and the girl are remotely discreet there isn't a problem.

Sgt Perv
06-30-09, 21:21
I'm batting 500 on cientos cinquenta, so I'd guess the going rate is not more the 20 bucks, I. E. Any reasonably human looking form should be able to get a condom BJ in Tijuana from just about any SG for 20 bucks.I am sure you meant 200 pesos (which is about $15 USD) not 20 bucks (which is about 260 pesos). Well, maybe you mean $20 total (chica + room) which is a good price. Whichever it is you are going the extra mile in your research. lol

Conversions can be confusing even when typing. You know what you mean but out of habit type another.

Dealing with pesos does add increments to the bargaining table.

Pesos seem more valuable(real) to the chicas just like USD seems more valuable(real) to us.
For the chicas to use USD, they have to convert them to pesos, an added hassle for them.

Using pesos ,a small cheat sheet (if needed) helps tremendously to get the price you want.

I was hoping that you would attempt a TLN with a paradita to see what your price would be, if that is something you would want.

I know 1000 pesos (about $75) is very doable but was wondering if 800 would work also.

I will try my next trip.

I am jealous of your adventures making my wait seem longer.

You seem to roam, sample and challenge yourself like I enjoy doing in TJ.

It is great that you keep your sense of humor through out the events.

A sense of humor is your best friend in this hobby.

Sgt Perv
06-30-09, 21:29
Mr Daisy asked the exact question I have.

Where would be a good place in the zone or near it that is girl friendly?If you check back reports, I think in around Oct 08 a lot of recommendations was given out.

Efjayel
07-01-09, 09:51
So I buy her some fichas, anyway, and tell her that I’d like to be with two woman and that I want the second woman to have a big clit. Much to my surprise (and delight), she’s not weirded-out.

lol, how do you even say "big clit" in spanish?

Balto1
07-01-09, 14:23
Thank you Sgt.

Pelongera
07-01-09, 17:19
lol, how do you even say "big clit" in spanish?i don't know. and the translators return 'clítoris' for 'clitoris, ' note the different 'i. ' so for big clitoris, i say clítoris grande. (for what it's worth, the portuguese have felt the nobel structure warrants a distinction. they call it grelo.)

i appreciate the question because i'm not talking about big lips or big pussies. i like a tight wet pussy with full, taut lips and a big fallus, though not one through which she can also [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)! disgusting, indeed.

anyway, these women understood english 'clitoris' right away.

and yes, that really was a hilarious scene. even the hour with montagne warming up to talking about the beauty of big clits was worth the fichas, priceless.

Pelongera
07-01-09, 17:43
I am sure you meant 200 pesos (which is about $15 USD) not 20 bucks (which is about 260 pesos). Well, maybe you mean $20 total (chica + room) which is a good price. Whichever it is you are going the extra mile in your research. lol

Conversions can be confusing even when typing. You know what you mean but out of habit type another.

Dealing with pesos does add increments to the bargaining table.

Pesos seem more valuable(real) to the chicas just like USD seems more valuable(real) to us.
For the chicas to use USD, they have to convert them to pesos, an added hassle for them.

Using pesos ,a small cheat sheet (if needed) helps tremendously to get the price you want.

I was hoping that you would attempt a TLN with a paradita to see what your price would be, if that is something you would want.

I know 1000 pesos (about $75) is very doable but was wondering if 800 would work also.

I will try my next trip.

I am jealous of your adventures making my wait seem longer.

You seem to roam, sample and challenge yourself like I enjoy doing in TJ.

It is great that you keep your sense of humor through out the events.

A sense of humor is your best friend in this hobby.I wasn't clear. Sorry. I'm concluding that because 50% of the SG's rejected ciento cincuenta ( 15 US dollars) I cannot say the price of an SG BJ is fifteen bucks.

Yes, an ordinary gringo can get one for that amount, but not without shopping.

On the other hand, I venture that for $20 US bucks any reasonably polite, ordinary looking pasty can get a BJ from any SG in Tijuana.

Therefore, if he has not already, a monger should walk away from any SG who asks for more than that.

Egnahcc
07-01-09, 20:17
Pesos seem more valuable(real) to the chicas just like USD seems more valuable(real) to us.

For the chicas to use USD, they have to convert them to pesos, an added hassle for them.Sorry, but this statement is absolutely untrue.

Sgt Perv
07-01-09, 22:27
Sorry, but this statement is absolutely untrue.Let us hear the truth.

I am not lying but saying what I have seen and heard to be the truth.

Please explain the truth so we all can learn.

You will not hurt my feelings.

Cool
07-01-09, 22:52
Sorry, but this statement is absolutely untrue.

Concur. The chicas are comfortable with pesos. Giving the Chica USD is not a hassle for them and is kind of doing her a favor because the USD has more value. The Chica relishes a loyal repeat customer who uses pesos over a guy who only bangs her once. Especially her pimp. Summarily chicas care more about volume than currency. I sure wished my boss paid me in EUROS.

Cool
07-01-09, 23:06
To clear up any possible confussion but the top 10 girls that work the streets at night are not going to do sucky fucky for less than 300 pesos with the "average" gringo. Getting sin ropa for 250 pesos would be a small victory. The realistic goal would be to try to get 2 positions for your "$20" Being cheap is going to leave you stuck with mid-range girls. I for one am not going to be always content with them no matter what deal they peddle. Remember these top 10 girls are already sort of bargains because they know they have the looks to work in a top club.


I wasn't clear. Sorry. I'm concluding that because 50% of the SG's rejected ciento cincuenta ( 15 US dollars) I cannot say the price of an SG BJ is fifteen bucks.

Yes, an ordinary gringo can get one for that amount, but not without shopping.

On the other hand, I venture that for $20 US bucks any reasonably polite, ordinary looking pasty can get a BJ from any SG in Tijuana.

Therefore, if he has not already, a monger should walk away from any SG who asks for more than that.

Cool
07-01-09, 23:14
The black chick at Adelitas is genuinely bisexual. Her girl friend is smoking hot (10 out of 10)

Cool
07-01-09, 23:17
The disguisting plumper ultra dark black chick that stands at the East end of the alley towards the chinesse restaraunt has an infant child. She must've been hooking while she was pregnant but the fat was concealing the pregnancy. I think most of her customers are native mexicans on a steep budget. She is not worth a trip to TJ (p.s. judging by her looks never personally tried her.)

Sgt Perv
07-01-09, 23:21
Where is part 4 of 4 you have me intrigued with your adventures.

It is like reading a book and you are missing the last chapter.

Efjayel
07-02-09, 02:50
The black chick at Adelitas is genuinely bisexual. Her girl friend is smoking hot (10 out of 10)

Is the black girl hot too? I've never seen a black girl in AB.

For how many black chicks pro's there are in SD and LA, I'm surprised they're almost none in TJ. I wonder if it's simply racial prejudice or their own safety why they don't migrate down to where they can work freely without having to worry about LE. I'm sure the real hot ones would make good scratch. If they opened up a bar with perfect 10 black girls I'd definitely attend. Black girls have some of the best asses/figures I've ever seen.

Sgt Perv
07-02-09, 03:22
If they opened up a bar with perfect 10 black girls I'd definitely attend.You would travel to TJ for American black women.

Would you travel to Asia for American women?

Latin women/Mexican culture is what TJ is all about.

If TJ starts to get mostly American women, I would quit going.

I do not need to travel to find that type of attitude.

If I want black women ,I will travel to a different country minus the American attitude.

Pelongera
07-02-09, 04:28
To clear up any possible confussion but the top 10 girls that work the streets at night are not going to do sucky fucky for less than 300 pesos with the "average" gringo. Getting sin ropa for 250 pesos would be a small victory. The realistic goal would be to try to get 2 positions for your "$20" Being cheap is going to leave you stuck with mid-range girls. I for one am not going to be always content with them no matter what deal they peddle. Remember these top 10 girls are already sort of bargains because they know they have the looks to work in a top club.Neither the question I asked nor the data I collected pertains to anything but BLOWJOBS!

And I stand by my claim that regardless of the tier, I can get any street girl to suck my dick for twenty bucks.

Still confused?

Dornyone
07-02-09, 04:30
FJL, dunno if you ever had a black GF but there's an aroma aspect that one has to get past. Not necessarily bad, a bit like venison say, over beef.

Sgt Perv
07-02-09, 04:50
.. aroma aspect that one has to get past. Not necessarily bad, a bit like venison say, over beef.The persons diet will change body scent, not so much the race.

Sgt Perv
07-02-09, 05:38
To clear up any possible confussion but the top 10 girls that work the streets at night are not going to do sucky fucky for less than 300 pesos with the "average" gringo. Getting sin ropa for 250 pesos would be a small victory.You need to work on your game a little.

If you have locked yourself into those prices, you need to find the key and unlock yourself.

I agree with Pelongera's findings.

For 150 pesos ($12) possible and $20 (260 pesos) for average gringo , I never tried for just a blow job.
.
I can get sin ropa for 200 pesos (I will only do sin ropa).

250 peso gets me the basics.

300peso if I try on a weekend or during rush hour but I have patience as I stalk my preys.

What is funny is we are only talking about $3.75 USD per 50 pesos difference, to our wallets.

I do not understand $30 USD unless you are`asking for the real unusual acts because before I would pay the almost 400 pesos, I would have to have some freaky shit I plan on doing (not that it is a bad thing).

Dornyone
07-02-09, 06:36
Well then, in all that time I spent in Durban and Capetown, I never encountered a black gal who differed in diet.
It's OK, I'm no longer the thrill seeker I used to be.

Sgt Perv
07-02-09, 06:49
Although not intended, what was said could be considered racist.

I was just trying to justify what you said.

I can tell a different scent in Mexico, Italy and Germany for the first week or two.

When I get back home, I am told I have a different scent.

Even few weeks on a different diet does make a difference.

Pelongera
07-02-09, 15:23
The persons diet will change body scent, not so much the race.That's right. It can, anyway. Taste too.

Mostly, the comment on having to get past the scent of black women is bullshit.

Not only is it fraught with racism, it simply is not the case that no blacks are significantly scent-less, which is what he implies.

Both my ex-wife and my current lover, both of whom are unmistakably negro, give off zero body odor. And my current l lover's pussy is relatively tasteless.

But the ignorance in the comment is in the fact that the speaker doesn't realize that the 'getting over part' is a product of the conditions of milieu he was raised, not some gene.

The genes that code for skin are exceedingly complicated and not so transparent.

It's amazing, though, how determine people are to ascribe to genetics every wiff of difference.

Scary shit.

Sound7
07-02-09, 15:47
Standard prepaid fee is $20 (200 pesos?). Every option is a minimum $5 (50p?) plus prepaid. The $20 prepaid is for showing you the room and intro. Each Chica has her own guiding rules regarding the activity and price. Three par are rare. HJ common at AB with Upper End Chicas or with a novice Paraaditas . Lubricated condom not ideal for BJ. Standard issue. 4th in TJ? Top Ten?

Getting sin ropa for 250 pesos would be a small victory. The realistic goal would be to try to get 2 positions for your "$20" Being cheap is going to leave you stuck with mid-range girls. I for one am not going to be always content with them no matter what deal they peddle. Remember these top 10 girls are already sort of bargains because they know they have the looks to work in a top club.

Sound7
07-02-09, 15:58
Black has such a variation in this world hard to say what is black these days.
10 Perfect Willing Blacks in TJ, it would be a riot in TJ.

Originally Posted by Efjayel
If they opened up a bar with perfect 10 black girls I'd definitely attend..

Pelongera
07-02-09, 16:40
Standard prepaid fee is $20 (200 pesos?). Every option is a minimum $5 (50p?) plus prepaid. The $20 prepaid is for showing you the room and intro. Each Chica has her own guiding rules regarding the activity and price. Three par are rare. HJ common at AB with Upper End Chicas or with a novice Paraaditas . Lubricated condom not ideal for BJ. Standard issue. 4th in TJ? Top Ten?What part of the word blowjob is unclear to you guys?

This discussion stems from my reports in which I find that 5 out of 10 SG's will give a gringo a BJ for cientos cinquenta (+hotel).

From that, I predict that price for a BJ, I. E. The price at which any ordinary gringo can get a BJ from an SG, is 20 bucks.

You can argue against that, you can make distinctions, and, of course, you want to change the subject.

But there is nothing unclear about the subject: it's about BLOWJOBS FROM STREET GIRLS!

Truly, if you're going to jump into a discussion as some kind of expert, you owe it to yourself to read the thread!

Sgt Perv
07-02-09, 21:27
What part of the word blowjob is unclear to you guys?
You did so great research for blow jobs from street girls.

$20 for average gringo and 150 pesos if you shop around a little.

Since you attempted 10 request and got 5 street girls to accept at 150 peos, I am convinced you are correct.

You seemed to sneak in a few extras after the deal but that has to do with your game, how you treated them.YMMV.

Efjayel
07-03-09, 10:28
You would travel to TJ for American black women.

Would you travel to Asia for American women?

Latin women/Mexican culture is what TJ is all about.

If TJ starts to get mostly American women, I would quit going.

I do not need to travel to find that type of attitude.

If I want black women ,I will travel to a different country minus the American attitude.

You misunderstood. I've mentioned in the past that the only reason I travel to Tj, besides the hot latin girls, is that prostitution is legal. It's also cheap(I'm talking about money not morality) and safe. Prostitution in the states is illegal, very dangerous, risky and expensive. All bad combinations but yet it continues to thrive.

And no I wouldn't want American pros mixing with the latin pros in tj. That's why I proposed a separate bar for black women. No it's not segregation but mostly safety for themselves since most latin women resent when non latin women work in their bars. Plus an all black girl bar will allow you to have your choice of the litter for when your in the mood for an ebony beauty. A wide selection. They should also make a bar just for Asian women since they too are rare in Tj. Of course, I doubt that will ever happen.

And if these american girls have their attitude, it would definitely change if they worked in Tj. Competition is greater so they cannot be as picky obviously.


Although not intended, what was said could be considered racist.

I was just trying to justify what you said.

I can tell a different scent in Mexico, Italy and Germany for the first week or two.

When I get back home, I am told I have a different scent.

Even few weeks on a different diet does make a difference.

This is actually true. And even though it sounds racists, there is some truth to it. Many years ago I used to work in a sleazy hotel that rented rooms by the hour. The idea of people of the same race having a distinct smell never even occured to me until this other guy I worked with brought it up. He mentioned how he could tell the race of the person that rented the room by the smell they left behind after having had sex in the room. I tested that theory and it held to be pretty accurate. The way the rooms would smell after a Mexican used it, or a white guy, an Asian guy, even a black guy was pretty distinct. Gross but distinct. Bottom line was that even though they smelled different, they all had a pretty bad smell. None worse than the other.

Sgt Perv
07-03-09, 10:43
Many years ago I used to work in a sleazy hotel that rented rooms by the hour.Our little Efjayel used to be a cum boy, how sweet. lol

Did you stand outside the rooms and wait for a dollar tip?

Where did the odor cum from the rubbers or the sheets?

Just joking with you and yes there is a difference , you tend to get use to / expect one scent and the others tend to throw you off.

They are all funky.

Kinda like going to the bathroom, everybodys stinks but yours. :D

Efjayel
07-04-09, 05:44
Lol, I only rented the rooms out not cleaned them.

Dornyone
07-04-09, 06:47
I never thought I'd be siding with FJL re a posting but he's right re the scents exuded by different races.
Shame on you Sgt Perv, taking the low road.
While I respect (and admire) the fiscal research Pelongeria has provided the forum, I have to comment that the most "Scary shit" is the knee jerk denial of racial differences.
Clearly the result of a Western education, his "fraught with racism" comment dilutes the otherwise stellar prior report.
Try a few years in Africa before crying "bullshit", US deodorant is more effective than you might think.

Efjayel
07-04-09, 08:43
I never thought I'd be siding with FJL re a posting

Well that was insulting...

Sgt Perv
07-04-09, 08:58
Shame on you Sgt Perv, taking the low road.Well , I have a Western Education and have spent a day or two in the US Army.
I have had the pleasure/displeasure of spending time in the "field" with many different races.

When we are all on the same diet and after a few days without a proper shower we all start to get funky.

I could not, in the dark, tell what race was what by scent.

Some people have better hygiene practices than others.

I worked a civilian job where one of my co-worker loved his garlic and rum.

When that man would sweat he smelled like acetylene gas.

Was not his race (Irish) but his diet.

Diets and hygiene vary around the world.

People taste in food vary worldwide.

Example, If you go to Atlanta, Georgia you will find the Cocoa Cola HQ.

Inside they will let you taste the different , I forget how many maybe 40, cokes they sell around the world. The can is the same but not the taste. Some I wanted to spit out.

Buy your brand of cigarettes in a foreign country and you can taste the difference.
I stayed at a motel once that was own by Indian (India). Their dog would come up to me, we all know about dog breath, and try to like my face. This dog reeked of curry. Now is it the breed of dog or the food the dog is being fed.

I really do not believe the scent is race as much as culture.

Culture is where you find a person diet, what they have learned to eat and develops a taste for certain foods.

I probably am more sensitive to what "could be" perceived as racist comment because of my involvement/position with the military.

There is no place for it and it needs to be addressed and explained before it get blown out of proportion.

Racist remarks are a mixture of one part fact and two parts stupidity.

Not just on the person saying them but also the way people hear them and react.

Different races due to their culture do have different scents.

I guess I should add skin and hair care products (scents) also vary with race and region.

Pelongera
07-04-09, 16:29
Elena at VivaMex Is VivaMex back to form? All showers are clean and well stocked with soaps. The flip-flops fit. And there are plenty of towels. But best of all is Elena’s hands, strong and expert. Refreshed, I return to the Zona having saved a batch of pesos for Paulina.

Daisy (de Vera Cruz or Puebla) atHong Kong. (7) Recommended. Daisy wins two awards in my book: (1) an award for giving the best blow job in Tijuana and (2) a special award for being a genuinely self-less performer.

In San Jose Costa Rica, there is a brothel called New Fantasy Massage, including a petite, black women who gives a no-teeth, cock swallowing, ball tickling BJ that is sooo good it attracts mongers from throughout the hemisphere. Phenomenal skills. Daisy runs a respectable second.

She is a stocky little morena (if not mulata) with a broad face and a boyish figure. She's a sex-savvy dancer who can shake her hips in ways that would shrivel an American feminist. I couldn’t resist. I offered 800 pesos, and she took over.

She is enthusiastic (and physically strong) enough so that, even if you feel guilty watching women work hard to please you, as I do, you won’t have a problem letting her suck your cock (or clit, I suppose) for a solid thirty minutes.

She even begins bareback. But I stop her explaining that I have no problem with condoms, put the condom on, roll her over, and mount the little bunda. From doggy, I proceed to lay her face down, trust deep into to her pussy, and bounce unapologetically off her buns, heterosexualism, in its quintessential form.

Alas, no pop.

Yes, I’ve hit passage. Gone are days of more than four pops in one twenty-hour run. I can’t blame the conditions. There was plenty of time, and Daisy was fucking up a storm.

The lesson on Paulina is simple: don’t hesitate. She may be gone by the time you return. As they say in the stock market, be bold, borrow, and buy!

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Sound7
07-04-09, 18:10
Russian mix would add international touch to TJ.

125 year celebration in TJ.

Early Russians moved to California. Visit Cultural Center for TJ for cultural and sex study.

Real window girls at TJ Liverpool store.


You misunderstood. I've mentioned in the past that the only reason I travel to Tj, besides the hot latin girls, is that prostitution is legal. It's also cheap(I'm talking about money not morality) and safe. Prostitution in the states is illegal, very dangerous, risky and expensive. All bad combinations but yet it continues to thrive.

And no I wouldn't want American pros mixing with the latin pros in tj.

Pelongera
07-04-09, 19:00
You did so great research for blow jobs from street girls.

$20 for average gringo and 150 pesos if you shop around a little.

Since you attempted 10 request and got 5 street girls to accept at 150 peos, I am convinced you are correct.

You seemed to sneak in a few extras after the deal but that has to do with your game, how you treated them.YMMV.Thanks, Sarg. I'm glad someone appreciate my attempt to get beyond the self-appointed claims to authority.

And I admit that I got this idea of the science of pussies in college studying Anthropology.

I had a TA (a Graduate Student Instructor) who was livid at the men in her discipline who were always measuring things. Of course, she was right. We do go overboard, arguably to the peril of the planet.

But I also have to admit that measuring things is plain erotic.

And so I've been measuring clits ever since.

Belgrath
07-04-09, 19:14
Non Mexicans arent allowed to work as hookers in TJ since the city requires them to pay for and get a health ID card with current monthy checkup stickers on it. There are a couple of Health Dept vans that go around mainly the red zona and check up on the card status of the sg's in and around the alley and occaisionally they go inside the bars with police to check the ID's of the girls working in them.

In the process they often take out the few non mexican hookers and the few you do find often pose as mexican to the authorities with bribes and stuff. There are a few girls that do pose as girls from other countries like brazil, venezuela and russia but they prob do have Mexican ID's from somewhere for the authorities. There are non carded street walkers who seem to be american women but they seem like hard core drug users or just seem risky to let your guard down around.

And for the food thing yeah what people cook and eat does affect the way they smell and how their house smells too. Oils and spices especially can stick to you ,your clothes and the paint even. An Indian house where the occupants cook alot smells alot like chiles, onions, oils, masala spices, naan and/or basmati rice and my mouth starts to water since I love Indian food. Even serious vegatarian people always are saying meat eaters smell different to them too.

Sound7
07-04-09, 20:13
This is more clear in the Cities of India including Goa how smell divides individual and result in crazy behaviour. Currently is some condo building in India including Goa CC&R allow only above ground vegetarians occupants after majority resident established. Said for the Goans.

You are what you eat!

I am sure the Scands have the same feeling with the high sea food diet.

Not sure if smell is an issue with TJ pussy in general?.


And for the food thing yeah what people cook and eat does affect the way they smell and how their house smells too. Oils and spices especially can stick to you ,your clothes and the paint even. An Indian house where the occupants cook alot smells alot like chiles, onions, oils, masala spices, naan and/or basmati rice and my mouth starts to water since I love Indian food. Even serious vegatarian people always are saying meat eaters smell different to them too.

Efjayel
07-05-09, 08:06
Well, I have a Western Education and have spent a day or two in the US Army.
I have had the pleasure/displeasure of spending time in the "field" with many different races.

When we are all on the same diet and after a few days without a proper shower we all start to get funky.

I could not, in the dark, tell what race was what by scent.Well I've never been in the army and the closest I got to a bunch of smelly guys was during gym class in high school. But my test theories when I worked in the hotel still held to be pretty accurate. By the way, Sarge, could you do us all a favor and not press "Enter" after every sentence? A paragraph or two wont kill you. :)





The lesson on Paulina is simple: don’t hesitate. She may be gone by the time you return. As they say in the stock market, be bold, borrow, and buy!
Your trip to TJ was interesting and all the more from your educated style of writing. I like it. Keep it up!




Russian mix would add international touch to TJ.

125 year celebration in TJ.

Early Russians moved to California. Visit Cultural Center for TJ for cultural and sex study.

Real window girls at TJ Liverpool store.What the hell are you talking about? After reading many of your posts I'm convinced that you're high all the time.

Sgt Perv
07-05-09, 08:58
But my test theories when I worked in the hotel still held to be pretty accurate. By the way, Sarge, could you do us all a favor and not press "Enter" after every sentence? A paragraph or two wont kill you.I am not at all saying that your results are false. I am just explaining why. Your results will hold basically true.

Now as far as my writing style. I really do not believe I have much of a choice how it turns out. I have always been monitored and I am not sure what I am doing wrong. I, like right now am typing two paragraphs but it will change. I try to copy how it is changed but I still get monitored.

Sound7
07-05-09, 17:54
I think it was James Brown who had a great song on getting natural high. But James was on drugs and busted.

Dornyone
07-07-09, 08:20
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/mexico_builds_border_wall_to_keep?utm_source=a-section

Is this really the end? We should be told.....!

Sgt Perv
07-07-09, 08:28
At least they did not complain about American asshole having paid sex with their women. It would have been interesting for them to show the zona while they complained.

Sgt Perv
07-07-09, 23:33
It is a dead subject (odor), so let it go. No sense arguing.

Phordphan
07-08-09, 16:38
my schedule lately is that i must visit the zona during the day. so, i've been going down 2 - 3 times a month, for a couple of hours, mid-week. i haven't been posting any trs, cuz there hasn't been much of interest to report. i usually see a fave in hk for 60 - 90 minutes of sweaty pse, or a fave sg. but you can only report the same thing so many times before it becomes repetitive.

today i hit the road at 9:30 and stepped out of the parking lot at 11:30, crossed the turnstiles and walked to the zona. i walked from revo to con on art. 123, n on con, east side, down to my fave casa de cambio, changed some money and strolled the alley.

i wandered into the front door of hk, made a lap, went to the front bar and ordered a beer. 30p. i am starting to like the bar more and more due to the lack of annoying meseros. one did come up, mid-swig, and asked if i wanted a drink.

i waited for my fave, but i guess she wasn't working. i looked for the part japanese hottie i met 2 weeks back, but she wasn't working either, or at least not yet. it was just past noon.

so, about 12:15 i decided to take a stroll. maybe i'd come back, maybe not, but i thought i'd go look for plan b, who is a sg who works near the rio nilo. her schedule is somewhat inconsistent, so i figured there'd be a plan c somewhere.

as i'm walking up the w side of con, looking carefully at the sgs, to make sure i didn't miss my intended, i forgot, for a few minutes, to check my six. i heard rapid footsteps behind me, and before i could react a guy grabbed me from behind and got his arm around my neck.

everything happened within a few seconds, but it seemed like a much longer time. i was stunned, then figured out what was happening. i lurched to my left, and twisted hard. i don't know if it was the guy's momentum, or my twisting, but we both fell on the ground, me onto my left knee and left elbow, i think, him behind me. i had the thought to cover my pocket that held my passport. i didn't really care about the money in the other. all at the same time, i was beginning to think about how to try to break the hold, i see his friend running up to assist, and my cheap-ass boost mobile cell phone came skittering out of my shirt pocket. i tried to stand up, and grabbed for the cell phone, all at the same time. at least that's how it seemed. then, as soon as it happened, the shitass let go and he and his friend started sprinting n on con.

i hopped to my feet, grabbed my phone and started to chase them, swearing at them as they fled. maybe i could have caught them, maybe not. but, i stopped after a bit. i figured that little good could come of it.

i checked my pockets. i don't carry a wallet, so they didn't get that. in fact, they didn't get shit. all i had in my back pockets were a couple of condoms, hand sanitizer and a comb. total damage was a minor bruise on one knee and a missing button on my shirt.

of course, the human debris populating constitucion didn't do jack shit to help. i didn't expect anybody to run to my rescue, but to not even yell? they just watched impassively. and, of course, there were no fuzz in the substation at 12:15pm.

i dusted myself off, straightened my sunglasses and strolled back up con to art 123. the girls just grinned sheepishly. hey, if you ever had the misconception that anybody in the zona gives a shit about you, this'll wake you up. when i got to the corner an obese abuela did ask me if i was ok. i told her yes, and that they didn't get anything.

well, that's kind of a buzzkill, so i was debating just heading back to la linea. then i said fuck it, i'm here to get laid. so, i collected my thoughts and marched off w on art. 123 towards ninos heroes. i wandered down nh to coahuila, then over to ab. i rarely, rarely go into ab, but i figured i'd just make a pass and take a leak.

so, i wander into ab, make said pass and head for the head. unbeknownst to me, i had been targeted by one of the milfs. there was nobody sitting in the booth next to the bathroom door when i went in. when i cam out, this lady was waiting for me. she grabs her purse and pops up like a jack-in-the-box. she was somewhat dark, shaped like a grape with legs, and nobody would classify her as pretty. not my type. i was going to blow her off, but she had such a funny way about her, and such an insistent sales pitch, that i stopped to listen. her name is [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901), she's from guatemala (and looked like it). she promised good sucky, good fucky, assured me her tits were natural and not silicone, then showed me. then she started grabbing my dick, promising that i could cum in her mouth. then she said all this could be mine for $30. i told her i only had pesos, so she said no problem, 300 pesos would be fine. i just smiled and said something to the effect of what if i want to eat you? she smiled and said sure, no problem. ok. wth. as monty python used to say, "now for something completely different." vamanos.

we head to the room, i pay for 1/2 hour (150 pesos), and i pointedly look at my watch as i picked up the towel, hoping the guy would take the hint. en cama she has an interesting form of rapid-fire spanglish. she told me of her two babies at home in guatemala, and said that she hadn't had an arriba in three days. her reason was that all the customers went for the girls with the "big silicone titties." she was natural, and couldn't afford a set. then she mentioned that she would be flaca if she stopped eating. (duh! yo, tambien!) i agreed, but told her that it was mostly the young guys who dug fakes. she insisted that, even up to age 50, all the gringos liked fakes. i didn't have the heart to tell her that the lack of silicone wasn't the main reason she wasn't attracting customers.

she asks if i want to pay before of after. i tell her after. she says ok, but wants a tip. i hem and haw, and she says a tip for really good service. por supuesto! we undress and she takes me to the sink and proceeds to wash of mr. happy. ok...

then the drags me back to bed, lays me on my back and begins a fairly good bbbj. a little toothy, but certainly competent. after about 5 minutes of that, she stops and says ok, now you eat me pussy. she lays down and assumes the position. it was all good, fresh panocha, trimmed bush, smelling a little sweaty, but nothing serious. tiny clit. i enjoyed it for about 10 minutes, or so. she enjoyed it, too, and got suitably wet, but no thrashing orgasms.

i came up for air and she asked if i wanted to fuck her pussy. sure. she asked if i wanted to use a condom, or not. i, at first, opted to not. she asked if i was clean. i said yes, and asked her if she was clean. she said yes. so, i begin in mish, she asks me to pin her legs back near her ears and i comply. but, after a few nice strokes i thought better of it, pulled out, and said we'd use a condom. she agreed that it was safer, and i handed her one of my avantis.

we resumed for several minutes, then she asked if i wanted to fuck her ass. i said, sure. she mentioned that a tip would be involved! so, she grabbed her jar of lotion (which doubled as lube), lubed up the condom, made me lay on my side, she assumed the spoon position and i eased in. i am not too fond of that position, and decided we needed to do it doggy. i pulled out, but the friggin' avanti didn't. she yanked it out, said it was no good, and proceeded to apply her goodyear special. oh, well. after easing in and settling into a nice rhythm, it became clear that she was in a bit of pain and not enjoying it too much. she asked me if i wanted to fuck her pussy now. after a few minutes i relented and withdrew. she then wiped off the condom and we resumed a pretty good mish. her belly prevented really close docking, but i had little to complain about!

after a rousing, sweaty climax she pulled off the condom, wiped me down a bit and asked me to lay down for a bit of massage. on with more lotion and a brief, but not too terrible massage. then off to the shower together. she washed my chest, i washed the rest, then left for her to finish her ablutions.

we dressed and she reminded me to pay. i forked over the agreed 300p, plus a 150p propina for the hard work and anal. i was now in a fairly good mood, as we were a couple of minutes over, yet no knock. i tipped the cum boys a buck each. she invited me for a drink, but i had to get going. instead of a ficha i just gave her a stray $5 bill.

on my way back up the 5, i thought things over. is it worth it? is the risk of getting rolled in broad fucking daylight worth the pussy? i have a friend who doesn't go to tj anymore. he does the asian "floating condo" thing, and loves it. an hour of bliss for something under $100. he keeps asking me to come along. well, it's now looking better. i dunno...

Efjayel
07-08-09, 18:42
1. I dusted myself off, straightened my sunglasses and strolled back up Con

2. After a rousing, sweaty climax she pulled off the condom, wiped me down a bit and asked me to lay down for a bit of massage. On with more lotion and a brief, but not too terrible massage. Then off to the shower together. She washed my chest, I washed the rest, then left for her to finish her ablutions.


3. On my way back up the 5, I thought things over. Is it worth it? Is the risk of getting rolled in BROAD FUCKING DAYLIGHT worth the pussy? I have a friend who doesn't go to TJ anymore. He does the Asian "floating condo" thing, and loves it. An hour of bliss for something under $100. He keeps asking me to come along. Well, it's now looking better. I dunno...

1. I imagine this must have looked like one of those cool scenes like in a movie. lol.

2. Hey, you never got the CIM like she promised you. Gyp!

3. So is it worth it? And what's this Asian floating condo thing?

Awesome TR Fjord. Don't let those scumbags discourage you from going. Otherwise they win. Tj has become as much our town as it is theirs.

Sgt Perv
07-09-09, 00:59
Great travel report and day prices.


As I'm walking up the W side of Con, looking carefully at the SGs, to make sure I didn't miss my intended, I forgot, for a few minutes, to check my six. I heard rapid footsteps behind me, and before I could react a guy grabbed me from behind and got his arm around my neck.I wonder what made them pick you out besides you not watching your back (that would confirm their choice)? You go there enough that you most likely do not have that lost tourist look about you. Seems like there must of been something that got them to target you in the first place.

Broad daylight WTF! Guess they do not like it as much if they can not choke you out right away. Glad you got away safe.

Pelongera
07-09-09, 03:52
On my way back up the 5, I thought things over. Is it worth it? Is the risk of getting rolled in BROAD FUCKING DAYLIGHT worth the pussy? I have a friend who doesn't go to Tijuana anymore. He does the Asian "floating condo" thing, and loves it. An hour of bliss for something under $100. He keeps asking me to come along. Well, it's now looking better. I dunno.great report, Phorphan. Thank you for taking the time to write it.

I had thought the rats would not attack in front of the street girls, reasoning that doing so would [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off the padrotes. After all, you and I both are looking for another venue.

So, what's the "floating condo" thing?

Sgt Perv
07-09-09, 04:35
It is time to switch to "punk rock" fashion ! Yes a nice spiked (sharpened) dog collar. Place it around your neck and flip your collar up or put your hoodie up. What a surprise for those assholes.

Sound7
07-09-09, 05:52
Right on Con and two street up at the crossing with the busy diagonal - just as the light switched one kid took off with the purse and another kid running along. She was not hurt - yelling and running.
No help, an elderly woman to say the least. No LE in sight at this location at that time. All this happened in seconds last month.


Of course, the human debris populating Constitucion didn't do jack shit to help. I didn't expect anybody to run to my rescue, but to not even yell? They just watched impassively. And, of course, there were no fuzz in the substation at 12:15pm.

On my way back up the 5, I thought things over. Is it worth it? Is the risk of getting rolled in BROAD FUCKING DAYLIGHT worth the pussy? I have a friend who doesn't go to TJ anymore. He does the Asian "floating condo" thing, and loves it. An hour of bliss for something under $100. He keeps asking me to come along. Well, it's now looking better. I dunno...

Sgt Perv
07-09-09, 06:26
In Chicago (USA) they have amp apartment buildings. You go to them as you would an Amp except the rooms change in order to keep LE at bay. I will bet the floating condos are about the same with the location changing (floating) so as not to get attention from LE. With amp apartments, it is a little cheaper than going to a regular amp.

Phordphan
07-09-09, 07:50
Great travel report and day prices.

I wonder what made them pick you out besides you not watching your back (that would confirm their choice)? You go there enough that you most likely do not have that lost tourist look about you. Seems like there must of been something that got them to target you in the first place.

Broad daylight WTF! Guess they do not like it as much if they can not choke you out right away. Glad you got away safe.

I often wear somewhat loud Hawaiian shirts, so maybe that made me a target. Or, the fact that I was the only gringo on the street. Literally.

Phordphan
07-09-09, 07:53
great report, Phorphan. Thank you for taking the time to write it.

I had thought the rats would not attack in front of the street girls, reasoning that doing so would [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off the padrotes. After all, you and I both are looking for another venue.

So, what's the "floating condo" thing?


You and me both!

I understand that some C-gals or K-gals have condos in parts of some cities. You call for an appt. and they give you the address. I think they tend to move around a bit. My friend swears by them. I guss I'll find out more and report back. He insists that it's much safer than TJ and cheaper, when you factor in the r/t transportation. We'll see...

Sgt Perv
07-09-09, 09:31
I often wear somewhat loud Hawaiian shirts, so maybe that made me a target. Or, the fact that I was the only gringo on the street. Literally.Those touristy loud Hawaiian shirts do get attention. Kinda makes you look like a tourist two blocks away.

Still Learning
07-09-09, 10:24
...
But you can only report the same thing so many times before it becomes repetitive.
...
He does the Asian "floating condo" thing, and loves it. An hour of bliss for something under $100...Great report. I have a feeling your reports would not seem so repetitive, so would be nice to read more. I havse not been to TJ yet and been wanting to go, so the reports really help. E.g. I did not know you could get bar action for $30 - most reports state $60 or more.

Sorry you got jumped. It is a risk always, but probably more so right now with the economy in the dumpster.

Where are the floating condos under $100? In San Diego? They are $160 or more for an hour up here in Northern Cal.

SL.

SuperSteve
07-09-09, 16:07
Long time lurker, I just joined.

The K-girls work out of what is most commonly known as AAMP's (Asian Apartment MP's). For the most part it is about $160 to $200 for 1/2 hour. You will usually get a smokin' hot Korean, but a very mechanical session. I think they had a school to teach them. Prior to the flip, rub there bodies on your back, flip put the condom on with their mouth, and away you go. Check out the Orange county threads, and there will be more posted. Several around the JW Airport.

Efjayel
07-09-09, 18:44
safer?

you're going into an unknown building/apartment with who knows who could be in there. chances of it being a sting, mugger, [CodeWord126] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126), serial killer. most likely in an unsafe neighborhood. how could this be safer?

Firedsup
07-11-09, 08:22
Phordphan, and all others it has been a few years since I last posted this advise, but still good today.

Walking flashy or to good of clothes to impress, walking with bling or other bright jewelry, can and will make you a target.

Making a splash with your money, and showing it, along with drinking will make you a target.

There are numerous other things, that will make you a target. But to numerous to detail in this report.

As far as odors are concerned, you are what you eat, if it smells bad do not eat it throw it away.

I am not going judge anybody in the use of a condom, but once you stick it in, game over, no sense in putting one on after 5 or ten minutes damage done already.

I have been going to adult Disney, for many years and have not picked up anything sin condom. Maybe because I stuck with regulars or just plain luck.

As far as walking in the streets are concerned remember the rules walk in the streets when possible, always carry your cash in a least four pockets, there is no thief or mugger that wants to spend more that 10 seconds on a person, walk the streets day or night. Dark and blind alleys have nasty little creatures that crawl and lurk in them, all about 5ft 1 to 5ft 7.

MILF are some of my fav they are just about willing to do anything for a few pesos, and who knows she just might become one of your favs.

To all who care this information has been accumulated since the late 60's, and I can tell you from past fuck ups this is fairly good advise.

I pass this info for all to read and so everybody can enjoy our Disney world.

There is no malicious intent towards anyone from this post.

Enjoy everyone and happy hunting.

Sound7
07-11-09, 16:47
Risky behaviour among clients of Tijuana sex workers heightens risk of HIV transmission

A study by a bi-national team of global health researchers at the University of California, San Diego School of Medicine, examining HIV infection among male clients of female sex workers in Tijuana, has found that over half of male clients had recently had unprotected sex. They also reported a high prevalence of drug use.

'Targeted intervention among male clients is necessary to prevent the spread of HIV and other sexually transmitted infections - intervention that doesn't solely place the onus on female sex workers,' said lead author Thomas L. Patterson, of UC San Diego's Department of Psychiatry and the Veterans Administration Health Care System, San Diego.

Tijuana, located in Baja California, directly across the border with San Diego, has a thriving sex industry and is a popular destination for U.S. and foreign sex tourists. While the city's health service does license female sex workers, on condition that they are regularly tested for HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases (STIs), only about half of them are indeed licensed. In addition, Baja California has the second highest cumulative AIDS incidence of any Mexican state and, in 2006, the HIV prevalence among female sex workers in Tijuana was six percent. It has been estimated that as many as one in 112 persons aged 15-49 living in Tijuana is HIV-infected.

'Male clients of female sex workers in the San Diego-Tijuana border region act as a bridge that can potentially transmit HIV and other STIs to sex partners, including their wives,' said co-author Manual Gallardo, M.D, Patronato Pro-COMUSIDA in Tijuana. 'However, given that only 59% of clients reported regularly using condoms with a female sex worker, there appears to be some level of complacency that urgently needs to be addressed.'

The study, published in the current on-line issue of the journal AIDS, looked at 400 clients - about half residents of San Diego and the remainder from Tijuana. Their average age was 36.6 years, with the majority Mexican or Hispanic (about 80%) and single, never married or divorced (57.5%). During the past year, clients had sex with an female sex worker an average of more than 25 times and over half of them reported having unprotected sex during the past four months.

While only half of clients reported having been tested for HIV, 14.2% tested positive for at least one STI (Chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis or HIV). The prevalence of HIV infection among clients was similar to that of female sex workers in Tijuana. The risk of contracting HIV was highest for those who lived in Mexico, used methamphetamines or had tested positive for syphilis.

'Of those we interviewed, nearly nine out of 10 reported having used illicit drugs during their lifetime,' said Patterson. Many were binge drinkers, and one-third said they were frequently high on drugs when with a female sex worker. This profile of substance abuse - especially methamphetamine use - likely contributes to high-risk sexual behaviour.'

Earlier reports by UCSD researchers suggested that interactions with clients can be a critical barrier to the adaptation of safe sex practices among female sex workers, who reported that some clients are willing to pay double for unprotected sex.

'Our new data suggests an urgent need to develop behavioural interventions to improve the clients' knowledge of the risk of HIV,' said co-author Steffanie Strathdee, PhD, associate dean for Global Health Sciences at UC San Diego. 'Intensified efforts to 'test and treat' should reach out to this high-risk group in ways that are culturally sensitive, recognising that some men fail to realise that sexual health is a shared responsibility.'

Source: UCSD News Centre
http://www.sciencecentric.com/news/article.php?q=09071102-risky-behaviour-among-clients-tijuana-sex-workers-heightens-risk-hiv-transmission

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Shoebridge
07-12-09, 22:49
I'll be in San Diego later this week and thought I'd extend the trip with a few days in Tijuana. My first time there.

I'm relatively experienced (Brazil, Thailand etc), and have posted on these areas a few times, but other than a week in Cancun this is my first time to Mexico. Grateful for any advice, but specifically would like to know:

- Are there any places where its possible to arrange for a girl "Toda la noche"? From the reports I'm reading a lot of the town seems very commercial (upstairs for an hour only).

- What can I do in the day time? Are there any clubs or massage parlors that are recommended?

- Possibility on arranging a 3+ some? I can do the mechanical stuff, but get enough of that back here in the US, I'd like to recreate some of my Thai/Brazil experiences.

- Hotel recommendations? I'll be traveling with my laptop and some business items, so need to have somewhere where my belongings are more secure.

I'll be there from Friday to Sunday this week, let me know if you plan on being around and want a drink.

Thanks,

Shoe

Dornyone
07-13-09, 06:52
Shoebridge, I'll be down probably Tues pm, debating a TLN or just staying overnight at a zona place and sampling whatever comes up, so to speak.
The questions you've asked have been covered pretty comprehensively on the forum. A TLN is probably best handled via an agency. Several decent hotels have been noted and massage places abound. Enjoy but be careful.

Sgt Perv
07-13-09, 07:18
I'll be in San Diego later this week and thought I'd extend the trip with a few days in Tijuana. My first time there.http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2995

Efjayel
07-13-09, 19:32
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I'll be in San Diego later this week and thought I'd extend the trip with a few days in Tijuana. My first time there.Shoo, all the questions you ask can be found from reading previous posts and of course reading the O'toole guide here. http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2995

Sound7
07-13-09, 19:41
Positive Comment:Efjayel

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Adventur
07-14-09, 05:42
Nice report Phordphan. Sorry that you got mugged. I went through that myself 2 yrs ago. In my case, I did get help from 2 Tijuana citizens, one was a hooker and another a parking attendant on art123. I stayed one extra night and put those guys in Jail. The police caseta helped but it is very slow and bureaucratic to get those guys in jail. They styed there 2 yrs and are probably out now!

After reading your report I mentioned it to an amiga and she said she had not seen anything but another incident involving a chica on coahuilla on Friday am.

Another chica actually mentioned an incident on Thursday nignt (9th July) at 11pm (she said) between playboy and la gloria where she said that 3 baddies got a gringo. This is also west side of constituicion just south of coahuilla. And she said this all without any info from me except that 'Tijuana es muy peligrosos verdad? ' comment

So where did your case happen exactly? Do you know what the 3 looked like? Mine had their heads shaven and one spoke english.

(Quote: So, about 12:15 I decided to take a stroll. Maybe I'd come back, maybe not, but I thought I'd go look for Plan B, who is a SG who works near the Rio Nilo. Her schedule is somewhat inconsistent, so I figured there'd be a plan C somewhere.
As I'm walking up the W side of Con, looking carefully at the SGs, to make sure I didn't miss my intended, I forgot, for a few minutes, to check my six. I heard rapid footsteps behind me, and before I could react a guy grabbed me from behind and got his arm around my neck.................)

Shoebridge
07-15-09, 12:33
Thanks for the link - I've read that and trawled through the forums enough to have a good idea of what to do. I'll report back on it Sunday

Sgt Perv
07-16-09, 02:48
Thanks for the link - I've read that and trawled through the forums enough to have a good idea of what to do. I'll report back on it SundayIf you have questions, now ask more specific questions. We will be happy to answer.

Sgt Perv
07-16-09, 03:40
Hotel recommendations? I'll be traveling with my laptop and some business items, so need to have somewhere where my belongings are more secure.We should open a new thread entitled 'TJ Hotel Recommendations'. Even though it has been discussed in detail in the past, they tend to get buried and hard for the newbie to find. Having a thread dedicated to the various hotels should be of great help for newbies and FF alike due to normal changes in hotels.

What do you guys think ? Every month people are asking about Hotels. I think it would improve the TJ forum. We title the reports with the hotel name and then describe rates, location, conditions,pro and cons.

Phordphan
07-16-09, 06:28
So where did your case happen exactly? Do you know what the 3 looked like? Mine had their heads shaven and one spoke english.


I was on Constitucion, west side, mid-way up the block south-bound between the callejon and Art 123. Near the entrance to the parking garage and the entrance to the Rio Nilo hotel.

Didn't get a look at them (there were 2 as far as I could tell) as they took off very quickly. One was 5' 8"-ish, thin, wearing a green military-style fatigue cap. The other a bit shorter, non-descript vertical-striped button-down shirt, dark jeans. I only saw their backs.

Shoebridge
07-16-09, 11:54
If you have questions, now ask more specific questions. We will be happy to answer.Thanks - my only remaining question is that I've decided to stay in Tijuana, and am wondering whats good to do in the day (weekend day time). It seems some of the clubs might be open, but less busy, but I wasnt too clear on if there was anything else worth doing particularly.

Sound7
07-16-09, 16:49
It is a great idea to know what are the current promotions are.

We should open a new thread entitled 'TJ Hotel Recommendations'. Even though it has been discussed in detail in the past, they tend to get buried and hard for the newbie to find. Having a thread dedicated to the various hotels should be of great help for newbies and FF alike due to normal changes in hotels.

What do you guys think ? Every month people are asking about Hotels. I think it would improve the TJ forum. We title the reports with the hotel name and then describe rates, location, conditions,pro and cons.

Sgt Perv
07-17-09, 02:53
Thanks - my only remaining question is that I've decided to stay in Tijuana, and am wondering whats good to do in the day (weekend day time). It seems some of the clubs might be open, but less busy, but I wasnt too clear on if there was anything else worth doing particularly.For your first trip to TJ ,you have the tourist area shown on the map. Well worth walking around and exploring for your first time. You also have the casino and the daytime is best for massage. Depending on your weekend, bullfights. http://www.borderbullfights.com/2008cartel.html

Daytime is the best time to scope out the paraditas. You might find one to act as a tour guide/companion for you.

Use the daytime to get familiar with the area. Between massages,eating (try the ice cream) casino,scoping tourist area`and paraditas , your dance card should be full. There is a mall with theater (cab ride).

Shoebridge
07-18-09, 21:19
Morning all! Thought I'd drop in a report of my first ever night in TJ:

Am staying at the Zaragoza hotel in TJ, as recommended in Brockton's guide. Perfectly fine, wireless internet, good food in the cafe, AC etc.

I hit Adelitas first, at around 10pm. Its not what I'm used to. My experience extends to either furtive state side stuff, or Thailand style bars where I'm frequently the only John, and I rarely see locals in the same establishments as me. The Johns also outnumbered the girls. Probably around 40 girls. Lots of silicon. some girls with truly epic sized chests (made mental note to self to try out some of these fun bags later).

I drank a beer and wondered around, but I'm used to the girls jumping all over me. Here it seemed clear that I'd have to walk over to get the ball rolling, so I left to check out Hong Kong.

The jacuzzi's were going and some girls were soaping each other up. Walked around for a few minutes, the girls can be pretty here, but, as you've all told me, it was no comparison to Adelitas. However, just as I was on my way back out I saw a stunning dancer. 21, Marie-Claire (?), half chinese and half mexican - just my type - very skinny, natural, young, flawless skin and petite at around 5'3" and 100lbs (body = 8/10). I bought her a drink and we chatted in my halting spanish. The barman told me upfront that she was not for sex, but she was worth the drink. After that I realized I had to lay something, so I found a girl who looked vaguely similar, Sylvia, 22 from Vera Cruz (seems many are from there), Mexican, with a wide, but pretty face, 5'4" 110lbs. Think with natural breasts. Body 7. You can recognize her by her 4 gangster gold teeth edges. Went to the hotel, $60 - everyone quoted me $60 in all the bars, no haggling. We ended up going for an hour for $100, plus $1 for the cleaner, $1 for the robe, and $22 for the room.

Technically she wasn't great. She tried, she had a good attitude, but her BBBJ sort of just involved nuzzling it. There was a lot of DFK, and it was a GFE. I dont think she'd really come to terms with being a working girl yet, as she seemed embarassed. She did work CG well though. Ended up doggie.

I then went back to Adelitas for a beer, then to Chicago. Run down, but I wanted to check it out. There was a pretty girl with nicely proportioned silicons, and we were arranging for her to come to my hotel when she finished work (3am) and for her to stay until the morning (8am ish). Would have been $140 for the night. Her name was Nancy, 5'2", dirty blond hair, child maybe, she sort of had a little slack on the belly, did I mention her breasts? I ended up getting too drunk and wandered off, but otherwise, and assuming I didnt get robbed, I think that would have been a decent deal for that length of time.

Back to Adelitas, I'm on my 9th or 10th beer, have had to hit the ATM twice, have bought a similar amount of ladies drinks and it's 4am, so I'm starting to flag. Speak to one girl with unbelievably huge knockers (she was very fun to hug! kind of like trying to hug someone who's holding a pillow), 22, raven hair, with a japanese style sever fringe, face was average, body was decent (7, but if you like the hoots, then a 9!). She was very direct, kept making sucking noises and grabbing my cock, suggested $60 for sex, including anal, when I asked for BBBJ it went downhill. At one point her friend, with better english, came to lecture me on responsibility. Moving on...

There was an S&M show with a very hot natural girl and a midget. Pretty amusing, but they didnt fuck, which is what I was hoping for. While I'm watching this I see an absolute Adelitas Hottie and given my inebriated state, I clearly stare. She flicks her eyes indicating I should come over there (what kind of brothel is this, that I have to make the first move?). Strange name I cant remember, she's from Honduas, very pal skinned, 5'6", skinny, very toned, natural B cups. Flawless face, at least under 1/4" makeup and through my beer goggles. Body had to be a 9. Another couple of drinks and she says we should go arriba. $60. she's too pretty for me to ask for anal or any other special service.

Upstairs and she's awesome, great GFE, pulling my clothes off, pushing me on the bed, nice CBJ, lots of positions, and because I'm having trouble finishing, and I'm guapo (like the rest of her clients?) she allows me to finish on her chest. Then at around 5am its time for me to crash.

Today I have to tap this girl again, but I'm going to good look for the most well stacked chica I can find as well.

Thanks for the tips over the last week.

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Efjayel
07-18-09, 23:15
Daytime is the best time to scope out the paraditas. You might find one to act as a tour guide/companion for you.



I doubt it. Unless the girl knows you very well or you pay her very well she's not about to leave her post and hang out with you unless it's to go to the hotel. She has her income and perhaps a padrote to worry about.

Sgt Perv
07-19-09, 05:14
What was your impression of the Alley Girls (paraditas)?

Phordphan
07-19-09, 07:33
You're doing OK. The only constructive criticism I can offer is to pay less.

Stick to $50 US. It's a buyer's market. If you use pesos you'll do better. Stick to around 600p. Hours should be no more than 1000 pesos, about $75.

The girls in the puta bars in most Latin American countries expect the guys to make the first move.

I like the part about the friend lecturing you on responsibility! :D

Sgt Perv
07-19-09, 08:46
Stick to $50 US. It's a buyer's market. If you use pesos you'll do better. Stick to around 600p. Hours should be no more than 1000 pesos, about $75.The chicas are not going to offer their lowest price that they will take. If all are offering $60 then that tells you business is not that great, so offer lower always.
Pecos will save you a lot of money. From what I read on your TR, you would have saved over $50 USD. The more you spend ,the more you save. Remember it is not a direct exchange, you actually get charged less. Plus it takes some of the touristy look away from you which means even better prices.:)

Sgt Perv
07-19-09, 08:58
I doubt it. Unless the girl knows you very well or you pay her very well she's not about to leave her post and hang out with you unless it's to go to the hotel. She has her income and perhaps a padrote to worry about.I pay them for TLN and get a companion/tour guide also. I love doing this when I am in TJ. It is not that hard to do at 1000 pesos. I will get at least 3 pops and a companion / translator / ghost buyer / tour guide. Best deal (I believe) in TJ.

Those chicas get prices I could not come close to getting. Chicas love to shop and do not enjoy standing around the zona. They are happy,I am happy. Win- Win.

Sgt Perv
07-19-09, 09:16
I remember I wanted a blanket for a loved one and the guy wanted $35 dollars for the one I wanted. The best I could talk him do to was $20 so I walked away. Later ,I told my chica about it so she said give her the money and stand back so the guy does not see me. Two minutes later she had it for $15.WTF! The list of things I have had them buy me goes on to include vitamin V and always the chica get a better price. I had one chica that got me so much of a discount on different items that she was free. If you smoke have them get your cigarettes outside the zona (they know where) around $10 a carton.

It can be (an outside the box) GFE! :)

Efjayel
07-19-09, 10:12
The girls in the puta bars in most Latin American countries expect the guys to make the first move.I'm a lazy guy so I tend to go with the pushy girls that come on to me. But out of all the girls I've been with, I usually have a better session upstairs with the pushy girls. More fun upstars opposed to the girls I had to make the first move with. But that's just my experience. Could be just the opposite experience for someone else.




Thanks for the tips over the last week.
Nice TR shoe but I'm interested in knowing the final damage to your wallet at the end of that night. Actually I'd like to know how much you ended up spending when your trip is said and done. :)

Efjayel
07-19-09, 10:21
Damn double post...

Dornyone
07-19-09, 10:25
Personally I like that I should make the first move, avoids all the rejections when fat chicks come over. Good job, sounds like you made the most of your time.
I just got in from a quick trip down with a fellow ISG monger, pretty routine trip but this time I wanted to check out Mermaids (the massage place opposite HK).
If I had to sum it up in one sentence it would be "don't bother"

The room and chica is $40 for an hour, you get on the bed naked, the chica will start a half ass massage then ask you about "extras" and quote a stupid sum for BJ and FS. I wasn't interested in paying $100 (I kid you not) for it and said "the massage will be fine".
Worried at the thought of having to actually make good on the hour long massage in this tiny, hot room the price came down rapidly. I said $50 and the deal was done. About the best thing I can say about this encounter is that it wasn't rushed due to the 1 hr already agreed upon.
The place is noisy, the girl was constantly ducking out to see "her boss", left her phone on, had no condoms (WTF?) and then went looking for baby wipes to clean up with. Again, this place is not worth it, no matter WHAT you are quoted on the street

Shoebridge
07-19-09, 19:13
Day, and night 2. It took a while for my cracking hangover to shift, and it wasn't until 4pm that I was ready to head back to Zona Norte. I had a legit massage at the Vivamex spa, very good, very professional. And then wandered around the Zona for a while before heading into Adelitas in search of bountiful bosoms. Carla of Guadalajara, 5'8", long mid brown hair with highlights, fairly well toned, curvy ass, did not disappoint (body 7 or 8). She claims they were 34C, but I think that was the bra she was wearing that led to them virtually falling out, they were F's conservatively. She was certainly able to holding items (drink, dollar bill etc) between them effortlessly. Quick drink and arriba. She wasted no time, and it wasn't mechanical so much as perfunctory (ie. no wasting of time, no DFK, no chit chat), however, she moaned in the right times, said encouraging things about "mi leche" and was responsive. I got what I want, which was to play with those mammaries. She was the only provider that asked for money upfront.

Back again that night, I walked around the alley to see the streetwalkers, and then for some reason walked into Tropical. Total waste of time IMO, old dumpy latinas, slow dancing to local tunes, clearly not a place for the likes of me. Downed my double tequila and moved on. Hong Kong had a mandatory 150 peso cover, for which you got a can of Tecate, and inside had some decent girls dancing, fully nude on the main stage, and at least one with an excellent body (8+), although an average face.

Finally, back to Adelitas, where I met up with my chica from the night before. Her name, now that I finally remembered it, was Surani (at least phonetically), and here's her interesting story (not a sob story, she never used it that way). She's from Honduras, came to Tijuana for vacation, met a guy and moved in with him, they lived together for years, but he ultimately left the country (he was a gringo). I presume that because she's not worked that time, that once he left, and with her family so far away she fell on hard times and ended up doing this.

Nice girl, and today's her day off. She gave me her phone number and invited me to her apartment, over by the beach. She lives alone, with a 3 room place, so I guess she earns enough, and although it violates my butterfly instincts, I'd have gone to at least check it out, as it intrigues me. I've done this in Thailand and Brazil before, once each, and was pleased to find the girls live a safe, if boring, existence outside of work. I have a clothed photo of her, but she asked that I not post it on the internet, so if anyone wants to check her out so as to identify her, PM me and I'll send it. She stands at the back on the right, on the edge of hottie central - i asked why she always stood in the same place. She said it's easy to keep an eye on the entrance from there, and its less busy than the main bar area near the entrance.

We went for an hour, popped twice. Generally I find it better the second time with a girl, as they start to know what I like. Excellent at before. A beautiful girl, very fair skinned, with fine features (high cheekbones, pronounced jawline etc), hairless body and flawless skin - very Columbian, or Venezuelan in appearance. Body and face were a 9. Performance and attitude were 8's. Damn high ratings all around. If she lived locally and didnt have the background I'd clearly do what I could to date this girl. Anyway, after our session I was pretty worn out, and had spent enough for the weekend, so bailed back to he hotel and got some decent sleep.

On my way to get a taxi I saw a wasted american guy in the small restaurant next to Adelitas, stand up, knock his water onto the floor, leave his wallet on the table, and then collapse by the front door. A few of us walked over to help him stand - I thought he might have had a heart attack or something. He was just totally drunk. He recovered his bearings, we gave him his wallet, and then he stumbled off into the night. I get drunk, wasted, and do stupid things, particularly when the little head does all the thinking. But, I've never been mugged. This guy, on the other hand, seemed to more than ask for it - drunk to the point of not being able to stand, and leaving your wallet behind! So, back to YMMV, if he were to post of the dangers in Zona Norte, and how someone stole his wallet one evening, it doesnt mean that its going to happen to everyone. I sure luck is a big factor in who gets mugged, but some people probably look more 'lucky' that others.

A note on the economics. I'm always fascinated by this, and meant to ask more, but here's what I know. The girls in Adelitas get 30 pesos per ladies drink/ficha. Its also possible to barfine a girl, but it costs 2000 pesos. I meant to ask what cut they got on the room rates, or if they had to share the money we pay them, or if they had to pay a working fee to the bar, but never got around to it. If you are in TJ regularly and want a TLN experience, I think a relatively good deal could be had by arranging to meet a favored girl on her day off.

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Firedsup
07-19-09, 21:37
Shoebridge I have been going to this hotel for years, I pay cash never a card. But great for a monger. Since it is a long walk from the zona, and fazed I hope you did not walk from there, to the hotel. At 5:00 a.m. it could be a little dangerous, although I myself Have done this, I can speak the language fairly well, and I am not exactly a little guy, and carry myself with kind of an attitude for safety sakes.

Most of these robbers do not want to spend to much time with a person if they have their money in many pockets or look like they can take care of themselves.

But alas old age is creeping up and can not do what I used to do, although the fun is in the game, hunt, and conquering, and also all the many new chica friends one meets in our sport.

Happy Hunting to all

Phordphan
07-20-09, 06:51
1. Don't pay up front.

2. That was FJL who was passed out in the restaurant. He thanks you for returning his wallet.

:D

Shoebridge
07-20-09, 07:23
I would laugh if it did turn out to be one of you in the restaurant that night!

Day dreaming about my time on the flight back to FL, I think I could have saved $50 by negotiating, anywhere from $50-80 on ladies drinks, and another $100 by not taking any of the girls for an hour. Although, taken to the extreme I could have stayed home and watched porn and saved even more

I took a single stroll down the alley to look at the girls, some were decent. I just like the club atmosphere. Nothing like taking my time looking around with a beer in hand.

Til next time!

I'll loiter around this thread, I'm in California on business a fair amount, so should be able to get back there in a month or so.

Sgt Perv
07-20-09, 07:44
2. That was FJL who was passed out in the restaurant. He thanks you for returning his wallet.

:DFJL hooked up with Sound 7 in TJ. He should have known not to take even half of what Sound 7 takes. :D

Efjayel
07-20-09, 10:21
1. Don't pay up front.

2. That was FJL who was passed out in the restaurant. He thanks you for returning his wallet.

:D


It was gone when I woke up in that abandoned alley including my pants. And don't even get me started on the hangover afterwards. :eek:

Gatoraide
07-20-09, 11:31
Looking to go to TJ for the first time. Possibly stay the night. Does domestic/us cell phone service extend into the zona (HK/Adelita area)?

Sgt Perv
07-20-09, 12:47
It was gone when I woke up in that abandoned alley including my pants. And don't even get me started on the hangover afterwards. :eek:So the condom hanging out of your butt and the 50 pesos in your hand did not bother you? :D

Sgt Perv
07-20-09, 22:05
Day dreaming about my time on the flight back to FL, I think I could have saved $50 by negotiating, anywhere from $50-80 on ladies drinks, and another $100 by not taking any of the girls for an hour. Although, taken to the extreme I could have stayed home and watched porn and saved even more Noway should you short yourself your pleasures, just save yourself a little money in the process. Do what you want and remember their culture is all about the haggling. Just part of doing business in Mexico.

Simply by using pesos would have save you some money on all the drinks you bought( your and the ladies) plus your arribas.

Sounded like you had a great time and most likely not forget it for years.

Dylan
07-20-09, 22:57
Looking to go to TJ for the first time. Possibly stay the night. Does domestic/us cell phone service extend into the zona (HK/Adelita area)?I think it depends on whether your phone has a 'sim' card. My phone works in the U.S. side parking lot, but does not work just across the border.

Efjayel
07-20-09, 23:30
Sounded like you had a great time and most likely not forget it for years.

Oddly for me, the memories afterwards tend to be better than the live actual event. But that's just me...

Phordphan
07-21-09, 04:37
Looking to go to TJ for the first time. Possibly stay the night. Does domestic/us cell phone service extend into the zona (HK/Adelita area)?

Some, do, some don't. My Verizon will work on the corner of Con and Coahuila, but not in the alley. I won't work in CC, but may in the rooms.

My Boost Mobile is similar.

YMMV.

DJ FourMoney
07-21-09, 04:50
Okay I am trying to understand this as best as possible. I'm on a total budget and in need of services...

I am trying to keep it to $150 max, two girls (not SW), including a bite to eat at some fast food place, or street tacos or whatever and the ride back to Los Angeles.

About $47US is 600 Pesos. I asked before if he chicas are doing the math, in other words keeping track of day to day exchange rates?

I'm going to try to do one of these "budget runs" that some of you guys are famous for and try and get two hours of pleasure from one, two, maybe three providers.

Thanks

Sgt Perv
07-21-09, 08:07
Okay I am trying to understand this as best as possible. I'm on a total budget and in need of services...

I am trying to keep it to $150 max, two girls (not SW), including a bite to eat at some fast food place, or street tacos or whatever and the ride back to Los Angeles.

About $47US is 600 Pesos. I asked before if he chicas are doing the math, in other words keeping track of day to day exchange rates?That is a realistic goal ! The chicas do not basically keep up with the daily exchange rates. The clubs do not either. Club give you a straight 12 to 1 rate for drinks(saves a little cash).

Math for drinks is simple in clubs. If they ask ,say, $7.00 USD then math is 12x7 which is 70 +(2x7)=70+14=84 pesos. $3.50 drink is 3.5x12=35+(3.5x2)=35+7=42 pesos. I shortcut through the math and x2 the number and then add to the original.
Now arriba at top price of $60 USD should be 720 pesos and $50 is 600 pesos. Now remembering that the the chicas were last year going arriba for 600 peso and 500 peso lets you know your realistic scale for negotiations are 500 to 720 pesos depending on your way/time of doing things.

Paradita (not sw) is all negotiations with a 10 - 1 exchange in your mind (200 pesos is $20 and 300 pesos is $30). So it is how much service you can get for the price you want to pay.

Taxi 50 pesos(tell them first), tips are 5 to 10 pesos and $1 tacos are 10 pesos.

Using pesos will without question save anyone money! How much will depend on you!
Math a problem , take a cheat sheet with you. Simple

Sgt Perv
07-21-09, 10:50
Looking to go to TJ for the first time. Possibly stay the night. Does domestic/us cell phone service extend into the zona (HK/Adelita area)?The best thing to do is call your cell phone provider and ask them. Each provider is different and some have a way to extend your coverage area.

Cobra Comander
07-21-09, 10:50
Some, do, some don't. My Verizon will work on the corner of Con and Coahuila, but not in the alley. I won't work in CC, but may in the rooms.

My Boost Mobile is similar.

YMMV.

The only place my phone seems to work is upstairs on the north side in Hong Kong, Mermaids, La Perla and also discovered today that I get service in Bar Delicious.

CC

Sgt Perv
07-21-09, 11:11
When I go to a new area with my Verizon I dial *228 and get my towers in the area updated for better service. I even do it every month or so, in home area, in case they get new towers. So it would be advised to update your roaming capabilities right before you cross the border (parking lot). I have noticed from 1 to 2 bar differences in signal strength. You guys can try this right where you are now and see the difference.

Joehart1
07-22-09, 01:10
I was able to make a detour on a business trip and spend some time in Tijuana. My Flight got into SD about 6:30 on a Thursday and I was scheduled to fly out Saturday afternoon. So, less than 48 hours.

I had reserved a Motel room at the Travel Lodge in San Yrodio. $56 per night. It's about a mile to the border and I easily walked that in about 15 minutes. So I got to Tijuana about 9:00 PM. Note if you're thinking about buying some "V" or"c". The drug stores close about 8:00 PM. My plan was to buy some "C" (36 hours would be about perfect for my stay). But they were closed.

While I went to all the usual places, I had the best time at La Valentina. The enterence is in the alley. How can you beat 2 beers for 3 bucks. I hooked up with "Candy" and definately had a GF experience. We spent a lot of time dancing and fondling and finally went upstairs about 5:00 in the morning. The session was terrific and I was pleasently surprise with what was available. $50+10 room + 1 for the clean up boy. Certainly not rushed and I know I spent more than 1/2 hour. Taxi back to the border and walked a mile back to the travelodge.

Went Back on Friday afternoon and walked to Reveloution. No problem walking over the bridge. Stopped at the Casino. So everyone knows there are no table games. Just slots and a sports book. It was crowded on this Friday afternoon. The good news is it was one of the few places air conditioned.

Later back in the Zona. Hong Kong was packed. I have never seen so many girls dancing at the same time. The baths were being used by 2 chicas in each and on the stage two girls were soaping each other up. The visual experience should not be missed while in Tijuana.

I did not partake on Friday night as I was worried about making my Saturday flight. Almost was talked into a quickie by a SW but backed out.

Overall I enjoyed my time in Tijuana and look forward to sneaking back.

Enjoy!

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DJ FourMoney
07-22-09, 03:40
That is a realistic goal ! The chicas do not basically keep up with the daily exchange rates. The clubs do not either. Club give you a straight 12 to 1 rate for drinks(saves a little cash).

Math for drinks is simple in clubs. If they ask ,say, $7.00 USD then math is 12x7 which is 70 +(2x7)=70+14=84 pesos. $3.50 drink is 3.5x12=35+(3.5x2)=35+7=42 pesos. I shortcut through the math and x2 the number and then add to the original.
Now arriba at top price of $60 USD should be 720 pesos and $50 is 600 pesos. Now remembering that the the chicas were last year going arriba for 600 peso and 500 peso lets you know your realistic scale for negotiations are 500 to 720 pesos depending on your way/time of doing things.

Paradita (not sw) is all negotiations with a 10 - 1 exchange in your mind (200 pesos is $20 and 300 pesos is $30). So it is how much service you can get for the price you want to pay.

Taxi 50 pesos(tell them first), tips are 5 to 10 pesos and $1 tacos are 10 pesos.

Using pesos will without question save anyone money! How much will depend on you!
Math a problem , take a cheat sheet with you. Simple

So they are actually working from a 10-1 to 12-1 exchange?

Okay here the rough draft -

Greyhound Roundtrip: $36.00

Taxi from boarder to Revolution: 50 pesos ($5)

Question - Are the Libra Taxis available? I haven't seen one yet, just Yellow cabs

That's $41US thus far, that leaves roughly $119US

Here's where I'm kinda confused, if I base purchases on 10-1 exchange rate but I get 13-1 when I exchange my money, I'm actually spending less right?

666.28p = $50.00US Real exchange rate

600.00p = $45.03US Chica/Bar exchange rate

But they seem to think 600p is $60.00US correct? In fact I am saving $15.00, almost the price of one way bus ticket and it covers my purchase of food and soda (I don't drink). If I eliminate ficha drinks (straight into negotiations) and take a soda as to not be bothered, total transaction shouldn't be higher than $46-47US right?

How's here is something tricky -

I am not talking about AB here and I will not say were I am talking about. But if I wanted a short-time hotel, how much can I expect to pay and can I work that into the negotiations, say 700p for off-site?

Help me work this, I don't want to delay the trip I get and extra check this month, everything is covered...

Efjayel
07-22-09, 04:23
Intercalifornias bus in OC Santa Ana bus station is $23 bucks round trip. Actually it's $23 from East L.A. Probably cheaper from the OC.

I can do a cheap run which is usually all I do now for $120. This is limited to one girl though and I don't do money exchange.

$23 for bus
$60 for girl
$12 for room
$17 for drinks
$1 cum boy tip
$7 for tacos & drink
__________
$120

I always end up spending more because I like to do extras with the girl and perhaps buy more than a couple of drinks. But if you stick to the above plan you should be good.

Sgt Perv
07-22-09, 04:42
Get the HK coupons ,that is a free drink and your taxi fare.


Here's where I'm kinda confused, if I base purchases on 10-1 exchange rate but I get 13-1 when I exchange my money, I'm actually spending less right?That is the whole purpose of using pesos.

Your kinda fuzzy on what you want as far as chicas but almost anything can be worked out. Figure for 60-70 pesos for each 15 minute of a room (still cheaper than using USD) Hotels use 12-1 exchange. Each hotel has different prices.

Most your bargaining is with the chica...price for services.

Are you talking about a club chica ? You said something about 700 pesos.

Non club chica is where you stay close to 10-1 rates in your mind but you can use it for bargaining with the club chicas too but by using pesos you'll get a better deal.Deal in 50 pesos($3.75USD) increments instead of $5 USD.

I have talked in past posting on all of this, I was annoying some so I let it go. Read some back post, you are on the right track, be confident .

DJ FourMoney
07-22-09, 06:13
Intercalifornias bus in OC Santa Ana bus station is $23 bucks round trip. Actually it's $23 from East L.A. Probably cheaper from the OC.

I can do a cheap run which is usually all I do now for $120. This is limited to one girl though and I don't do money exchange.

$23 for bus
$60 for girl
$12 for room
$17 for drinks
$1 cum boy tip
$7 for tacos & drink
__________
$120

I always end up spending more because I like to do extras with the girl and perhaps buy more than a couple of drinks. But if you stick to the above plan you should be good.

You go all the way down for ONE girl?

That was the bus I was thinking about, I think its $28 RT from Downtown LA actually.

If that's the case, $8 savings...

Like I was saying if I exchanged say $90US for 1200p I can't see why I can't get something REALLY good for maybe an hour, maybe longer or two short and keep it under $110US.

Hmmm, still working it out. Might go down Thur night.

Phordphan
07-22-09, 06:49
I am not talking about AB here and I will not say were I am talking about. But if I wanted a short-time hotel, how much can I expect to pay and can I work that into the negotiations, say 700p for off-site?

There is a nice short time hotel right next to La Perla restaurant. If you proceed west on Coahuila, past La Perla's parking lot, the first door on the right is the place. I just can't remember the name. A girl's name, I think.

Price is 200 pesos for as long as you want, or until noon the following day. The place is clean, very basic, but with hot showers and a twin bed.

Getting the girl out of the bar mid-shift is going to put a crimp in your budget.

DJ FourMoney
07-22-09, 09:10
There is a nice short time hotel right next to La Perla restaurant. If you proceed west on Coahuila, past La Perla's parking lot, the first door on the right is the place. I just can't remember the name. A girl's name, I think.

Price is 200 pesos for as long as you want, or until noon the following day. The place is clean, very basic, but with hot showers and a twin bed.

Getting the girl out of the bar mid-shift is going to put a crimp in your budget.

Should I target those coming off shift?

Cobra Comander
07-22-09, 11:26
I don't do money exchange.

$23 for bus
$60 for girl
$12 for room
$17 for drinks
$1 cum boy tip
$7 for tacos & drink
__________
$120



$23 for bus
$60 for girl= 600pesos= $45.15
$12 for room = 144pesos
$17 for drinks= 204pesos
$1 cum boy tip= 10peso coin
$7 for tacos & drink 70pesos

total pesos used= 1018= 76.63

Plus your $23 for the bus= $99.63

I just don't understand why (as you have previously stated) if you have limited fundage you REFUSE to use pesos to your advantage....... And just don't blow me off and say it's a hassle because its not. Not at all.

CC

Efjayel
07-22-09, 11:41
You go all the way down for ONE girl?I have my favoritas that are a guaranteed good time.



I just don't understand why (as you have previously stated) if you have limited fundage you REFUSE to use pesos to your advantage....... And just don't blow me off and say it's a hassle because its not. Not at all.

CCYou're right it's not a hassle. It's an inconvenience. lol

Actually, it's not that I'm against exchanges or totally refuse to do it. I'm just a lazy guy that would rather pay/lose the 20 bucks than to exchange it then have to do the math conversions when trying to pay for anything. I go maybe every other month so the loss isn't exactly something to cry about.

Cobra Comander
07-22-09, 11:47
I go maybe every other month so the loss isn't exactly something to cry about.

For sure. Just saying. I'm not calling you out or anything but from some past posts that you don't have alot of cash to play with so....

If you knew there was a place that would give you a twenty dollar bill would you take the 90 seconds out of your trip and go get your free twenty bucks? Cause I mean its basically the same shit.

CC

Efjayel
07-22-09, 11:57
I could come up with a list of reasons why I don't care to exchange the money but there is no need for that. Bottom line is I honestly just don't want to bother with doing the exchange even if it does save me $20. I am looking to save money if I can but for lazy reasons, exchanging money isn't one I'm interested in. Again conversion and that most girls quote in dollars anyways.

Sgt Perv
07-22-09, 12:05
I just don't understand why (as you have previously stated) if you have limited fundage you REFUSE to use pesos to your advantage....... And just don't blow me off and say it's a hassle because its not. Not at all.

CCEven though the more you spend the more you save, the guys on a limited budget are the ones who "feel" the difference the most! Just seems foolish to waste hard earned cash when you do not have to. $aving $20 on a $120 budgeted trip a is significant difference.

Stop trying to play the "Rich American" role and life is easier. Your in a poor country so blend in with the masses.

Sgt Perv
07-22-09, 12:13
Like I was saying if I exchanged say $90US for 1200p I can't see why I can't get something REALLY good for maybe an hour, maybe longer or two short and keep it under $110US..Possibly a short and a long depending on the chicas and the hotel fee but using coupons (taxi/drink) and pesos the room fee will be mostly absorbed (13.50).

Sgt Perv
07-22-09, 12:22
Actually, it's not that I'm against exchanges or totally refuse to do it. I'm just a lazy guy that would rather pay/lose the 20 bucks than to exchange it then have to do the math conversions when trying to pay for anything. I go maybe every other month so the loss isn't exactly something to cry about.
I bet if they raised the bus fare $20 you would be crying.

If you knew there was a place that would give you a twenty dollar bill would you take the 90 seconds out of your trip and go get your free twenty bucks? Cause I mean its basically the same shit.

CCWell said CC.

Chicas quote what they think you are spending. Math? Use a cheat sheet! You will catch on very soon and not need the sheet.

You are already spending the most limited resource everybody has your time.

Cobra Comander
07-22-09, 13:00
I could come up with a list of reasons why I don't care to exchange the money but there is no need for that. Bottom line is I honestly just don't want to bother with doing the exchange even if it does save me $20. I am looking to save money if I can but for lazy reasons, exchanging money isn't one I'm interested in. Again conversion and that most girls quote in dollars anyways.


Aren't you the guy who was complaining about getting thrown outta Hong Kong for not wanting to spend 3.50 on a drink?

CC

Dornyone
07-22-09, 14:38
I am looking to save money if I can but for lazy reasons,
Yeah, stay at home, read everyone else's posts and monger vicariously, the exchange rate's better.

Phordphan
07-22-09, 17:19
I could come up with a list of reasons why I don't care to exchange the money but there is no need for that. Bottom line is I honestly just don't want to bother with doing the exchange even if it does save me $20. I am looking to save money if I can but for lazy reasons, exchanging money isn't one I'm interested in. Again conversion and that most girls quote in dollars anyways.

There are at least two cambios in the zona. It literally takes about 90 seconds to exchange dollars for pesos. Unless you cab up to the door of AB, go inside, leave and hop into a cab, it's no trouble. Inside AB and HK are ATMs. I've never used one, but I think they dispense pesos as well as dollars. Again, no trouble.

All the clubs are geared toward dollars, with a fixed exchange rate. No thinking involved. You order a drink, you give them pesos, they bring your change in pesos. Lately it's about 12 x 1, which isn't great, but it will save a little money. Same with the hotel.

The girls always quote in dollars because their clientele thinks in dollars. All you have to do is add a zero. They say $60, you say 600 pesos. Easy. A trained chimp could do it. In fact, it would be a waste of a good chimp! The girls think in pesos, because most of their bills are in pesos. They don't want to do the math any more than you do!

Phordphan
07-22-09, 17:21
Should I target those coming off shift?

Yes. Often, a TLN is easier to arrange if you are able to make prior plans with the chica. However, you have to know her and have some mechanism to communicate with her. Shift changes are around 8pm, and 4am-ish, so take your pick.

Sound7
07-22-09, 18:15
Dream Latina Travel (DLT) from East LA or Santa Ann:

Thank you FJL, CC, Sgt Perv and many others. Dream Latina Chica starting at $50. VIP $125

DLT FJL Plan: Dearm HK Latina.
$87 (Pesos+Coupons) Budget
$107 (Dollars + Coupons) Delux
$125 (No Peso, No Coupon) VIP Program

CC Plan: 104.63 Dream HK Latina

$23 for bus
$60 for girl= 600pesos= $45.15 ??
$12 for room = 144pesos
$17 for drinks= 204pesos
$1 cum boy tip= 10peso coin
$7 for tacos & drink 70pesos ??

total pesos used= 1018= 76.63 ??

Plus your $23 for the bus= $99.63 ??
CC

DLT CC Plan:
$84.63 (Pesos + Coupons) Budget
$104.63 (Pesos, No Coupons) Delux

Sgt Perv Plan: $50 (All Pesos + HK Coupons) Dream SW (Paraditas) Latina

$28 RT Intercalifornias bus - Last Bus at 20:00
1000 E Santa Ana Blvd # 106, Santa Ana, CA‎

VIP $125 Dream HK Latina.

Intercalifornias bus in OC Santa Ana bus station is $23 bucks round trip. Actually it's $23 from East L.A. Probably cheaper from the OC.

I can do a cheap run which is usually all I do now for $120. This is limited to one girl though and I don't do money exchange.

$23 for bus Rev. $28
$60 for girl
$12 for room
$17 for drinks
$1 cum boy tip
$7 for tacos & drink
__________
$120 Rev $125

I always end up spending more because I like to do extras with the girl and perhaps buy more than a couple of drinks. But if you stick to the above plan you should be good.

Efjayel
07-22-09, 20:03
Aren't you the guy who was complaining about getting thrown outta Hong Kong for not wanting to spend 3.50 on a drink?

CC


It wasn't that I was too poor to spend money on a drink. Allow me to re-tell the story once again;

I walked into Hk(this was before the renovation and was still rather small). It was standing room only being a crowded Saturday. I went in only to look around. There was a girl dancing show going on so I stopped in the middle of a standing onlooking crowd just to look for a few seconds when a waiter approaches me to buy a drink. I wave him away. Like half a minute later he returns and insists I buy a drink. Again I try to wave him away but now says I either buy or leave. I opted to leave.

This pushy waiter targeted me out of everyone in the crowd and I didn't see drinks on any else in the crowd nor did I see him or any other waiters bugging any of them to buy drinks. I would understand if I had been sitting in a booth or had been in there for a while gawking but neither where the case. I didn't like that I was being forced to buy a drink under those circumstances so I left.

Cobra Comander
07-22-09, 21:53
I am looking to save money if I can but for lazy reasons,
Yeah, stay at home, read everyone else's posts and monger vicariously, the exchange rate's better.

Ditto.

CC

Cobra Comander
07-22-09, 21:57
It wasn't that I was too poor to spend money on a drink. Allow me to re-tell the story once again;

I walked into Hk(this was before the renovation and was still rather small). It was standing room only being a crowded Saturday. I went in only to look around. There was a girl dancing show going on so I stopped in the middle of a standing onlooking crowd just to look for a few seconds when a waiter approaches me to buy a drink. I wave him away. Like half a minute later he returns and insists I buy a drink. Again I try to wave him away but now says I either buy or leave. I opted to leave.

This pushy waiter targeted me out of everyone in the crowd and I didn't see drinks on any else in the crowd nor did I see him or any other waiters bugging any of them to buy drinks. I would understand if I had been sitting in a booth or had been in there for a while gawking but neither where the case. I didn't like that I was being forced to buy a drink under those circumstances so I left.

Perhaps they paid in pesos and fit in more than dudes with $97 and return trip bus ticket in hand..... Just saying.

CC

DJ FourMoney
07-23-09, 00:13
Yes. Often, a TLN is easier to arrange if you are able to make prior plans with the chica. However, you have to know her and have some mechanism to communicate with her. Shift changes are around 8pm, and 4am-ish, so take your pick.

Thanks, weighting my options...

I am for sure going tomorrow or next week.

I've only been with a couple of girls thus far so the chances of getting TLN GFE isn't that good without a few sessions under your belt with said chica.

Sound7
07-23-09, 04:37
Dream Latina Waiting 4U

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=907696&postcount=3299


Thanks, weighting my options...

I am for sure going tomorrow or next week.

I've only been with a couple of girls thus far so the chances of getting TLN GFE isn't that good without a few sessions under your belt with said chica.

DJ FourMoney
07-23-09, 06:30
Dream Latina Waiting 4U

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=907696&postcount=3299

Huh?

Sorry but I don't understand, you gave a cost comparison which is great. But who is this "Dream Latina"? When you say "HK" when I suppose your talking about Hong Kong?

PM me if you have to break it down any further.. :)

Dornyone
07-23-09, 07:37
I took a little time away from my mundane Wednesday to sample the many pleasures on tap in Tijuana today. Leaving OC at about 2, I was in the Jack in the Box parking lot by about 4:15, not bad. It's been hot so I park facing W and put up my sunshades, the lot is 1/3 full. I have been meaning to try the Vivamex Day spa for a while so I told the cab driver to go there. Blank stare. He had to ask several other cabbies where it was until a guy says "a real massage? " I say yes and he gives my driver the address on Revo. They haven't got a masseuse for 45 minutes so I wander amid the empty shops, stalls and idle zebras, nothing going on.

After picking up a few Tijuana T shirts for next week's SA trip, I go back and am introduced to "Berenice", an average, but fit looking Latina who shows me the room and asks me to strip. I do so, in this sweltering little room while she fetches a fan, that's better for me, but I just have to lie there. I should point out that I don't think this place has AC, a definite factor during the summer months.

Berenice proceeds to administer a very competent 60 min combo massage that took care of my nagging back pains. She even managed to adjust my back while she was up there on top of me, something that surprised me as I felt the vertebrae move back into place. In all, highly recommended, a lot of power in a small girl. I tipped her well, she worked hard in that hot little room. I left, looking for dinner and sport. I don't have Brockton's map memorized so I ended up getting a cab.

You can imagine my disgust when I arrived outside La Perla and was asked for $5. WTF? I don't have enough Spanish to cuss a cabbie out properly (if I felt like it) so I winged his $1 bills all over the cab, making him grovel to get them. He asked why I did it, I replied that he had ripped me off.

Exit cab, enter restaurant. Being parched, I down 2 beers before the entree arrives, one after, total damage $9, I leave $2 tip. Out the door, cruise over to the alley to check out a little spinner that was recommended to me, one Paola. It didn't take too many sweeps or questions to establish she "has gone home". It's only 7pm?

Her amigas are cute so I engaged one of them, she asks for $20 for 20 mins. "how much for an hour? " I know how hot the alley is, and I want to give this chica the opportunity to shower and get cleaned up before I soil her. "$100" Obviously math is not a strongpoint in the alley. I point out that $20 for 20 mins X 3 = $60/hr. No? She now wants $80.

Fuck it, I went into Adelitas and settled for a mediocre chica who spoke English and knew math. $72 later plus $1 for the boy, I was done. I am disappointed that the alley didn't yield the kind of treasure you guys find regularly but I'll be back.

Many cops checking IDs, on Revo and in La Zona. I didn't get hassled even though I walked right through their lines. Awkward moment as my border cab dropped me in the middle of a shakedown by Tijuana's finest at the border drop point but I skated through that too. YMMV be safe!

75 plus all the way to OC, Left the lot, rolled into my drive in North OC in 1 H 33 mins.

Yes, we WILL "drive to Tijuana for one pop".

Thedude8521
07-23-09, 08:54
Hey,

I just wanted to introduce myself to the boards. I just relocated from northern California to SD and can’t wait to get my ass to Tijuana. Do people ever meet up and roll down together? I have never been to la zona, but have been to Tijuana a million times, I have family down there. I pretty much speak fluent Spanish. Well, I’ll be reading through the posts to get as much info as I can. Get at me.

DJ FourMoney
07-23-09, 11:08
I took a little time away from my mundane wednesday to sample the many pleasures on tap in TJ today. Leaving OC at about 2, I was in the Jack in the Box parking lot by about 4:15, not bad. It's been hot so I park facing W and put up my sunshades, the lot is 1/3 full. I have been meaning to try the Vivamex Day spa for a while so I told the cab driver to go there....blank stare. He had to ask several other cabbies where it was until a guy says "a real massage?" I say yes and he gives my driver the address on Revo.
They haven't got a masseuse for 45 minutes so I wander amid the empty shops, stalls and idle zebras, nothing going on.
After picking up a few TJ T shirts for next week's SA trip, I go back and am introduced to "Berenice", an average, but fit looking Latina who shows me the room and asks me to strip. I do so, in this sweltering little room while she fetches a fan, that's better for me, but I just have to lie there. I should point out that I don't think this place has AC, a definite factor during the summer months.
Berenice proceeds to administer a very competent 60 min combo massage that took care of my nagging back pains. She even managed to adjust my back while she was up there on top of me, something that surprised me as I felt the vertebrae move back into place. In all, highly recommended, a lot of power in a small girl. I tipped her well, she worked hard in that hot little room.
I left, looking for dinner and sport. I don't have Brockton's map memorized so I ended up getting a cab.
You can imagine my disgust when I arrived outside La Perla and was asked for $5 ...WTF? I don't have enough Spanish to cuss a cabbie out properly (if I felt like it) so I winged his $1 bills all over the cab, making him grovel to get them. He asked why I did it, I replied that he had ripped me off.
Exit cab, enter restaurant. Being parched, I down 2 beers before the entree arrives, one after, total damage $9, I leave $2 tip. Out the door, cruise over to the alley to check out a little spinner that was recommended to me, one Paola. It didn't take too many sweeps or questions to establish she "has gone home" ...it's only 7pm?
Her amigas are cute so I engaged one of them, she asks for $20 for 20 mins... "how much for an hour?" I know how hot the alley is, and I want to give this chica the opportunity to shower and get cleaned up before I soil her.... "$100" Obviously math is not a strongpoint in the alley. I point out that $20 for 20 mins X 3 = $60/hr...no? She now wants $80.
Fuck it, I went into Adelitas and settled for a mediocre chica who spoke English and knew math. $72 later plus $1 for the boy, I was done. I am disappointed that the alley didn't yield the kind of treasure you guys find regularly but I'll be back.
Many cops checking IDs, on Revo and in La Zona. I didn't get hassled even though I walked right through their lines. Awkward moment as my border cab dropped me in the middle of a shakedown by TJ's finest at the border drop point but I skated through that too. YMMV be safe!
75 plus all the way to OC, Left the lot, rolled into my drive in North OC in 1 H 33 mins.
Yes, we WILL "drive to TJ for one pop"

You crazy! I don't think I can do one pop for 2.5hr bus ride, only to wait for said bus to return for another 2.5hr trip. I'm without car at the moment so its my most affordable choice.

But whatever works for you mayne, thanks for the report.

Cobra Comander
07-23-09, 11:25
Huh?

Sorry but I don't understand, you gave a cost comparison which is great. But who is this "Dream Latina"? When you say "HK" when I suppose your talking about Hong Kong?

PM me if you have to break it down any further.. :)

Yeah I have no fucking idea what he's talking about. Kinda don't care either.

CC

Sgt Perv
07-23-09, 11:28
Her amigas are cute so I engaged one of them, she asks for $20 for 20 mins. "how much for an hour? " I know how hot the alley is, and I want to give this chica the opportunity to shower and get cleaned up before I soil her. "$100" Obviously math is not a strongpoint in the alley. I point out that $20 for 20 mins X 3 = $60/hr. No? She now wants $80.Should have been talking pesos to her. They bargain so much easier in that currency. She had you pegged as a rich American tourist and was trying to take advantage of you. I have said it before and so has others, using pesos gets you better deals! Using pesos takes some of the "dumb" tourist aura away from you. Using pesos makes you seem to have experience from the start. Should have offered 400-500 peso for the hour (30-40 usd). Would have worked it in 50 peso increments.

It is not so much that their math skills are bad as it is they are trying to get as much as they can from a tourist using USD.

Still no pics? It is not all that easy and is a bit of a hassle.

Sgt Perv
07-23-09, 11:35
Huh?

Sorry but I don't understand That was live feed from planet Sound 7, nobody understands most of his post. :D

If I ever start to fully understand them, I will know it is time to check in to rehab.

Sound7
07-23-09, 13:24
Great detail report. Thanks.
What was the price for 60 minutes and tip?


Berenice proceeds to administer a very competent 60 min combo massage that took care of my nagging back pains. She even managed to adjust my back while she was up there on top of me, something that surprised me as I felt the vertebrae move back into place. In all, highly recommended, a lot of power in a small girl. I tipped her well, she worked hard in that hot little room.


Keep the dream alive. Keep the hope, Keep coming,
Viva Viva TJ!

Yes, we WILL "drive to TJ for one pop"

Dornyone
07-23-09, 15:54
Here's their site, the prices are posted
http://www.vivamexspa.com/massagenew.htm

Phordphan
07-23-09, 16:21
Thanx for the TR, Dorny.

One thing I have to point out was the cab thing. IMHO, you came off looking like a jerk. No flame here, just an observation.

If it was a yellow cab you took, they operate on the zone principal. A trip to/within a particular zone is a flat fee. The fees go up, depending on where the zone is, i.e. how far away. Often that can be a relatively good deal, but short trips within a particular zone are not. If it was a Taxi Libre who didn't use his meter, then he was chiseling you, no doubt. Otherwise, he wasn't cheating you. $5 is ridiculous from VivaMex to La Perla, but I think it's standard. I think that's why the locals always use the Collectivos.

When in doubt, always ask before getting in.

Dornyone
07-23-09, 17:28
It was a taxi libre and we both knew he was chiseling me. He couldn't look me in the eye when I asked how much and made him repeat it.
I will certainly ask ahead in future.

Country John
07-23-09, 17:38
It was a taxi libre and we both knew he was chiseling me. He couldn't look me in the eye when I asked how much and made him repeat it.
I will certainly ask ahead in future.Mongers should also keep in mind that there are a record number of taxi libres for sale in TJ right now and those who are working are not making much money. It cost these guys $40 a day for the car plus gas so they have to hustle to break even. There are drivers who will try to clip you; some things never change. But business is very slow in TJ right now.

It's smart to confirm the fare before getting into the car like you said.

Sound7
07-23-09, 17:47
Sometimes Vivamex runs a promotion during the week. Tips are posted in some massage places and not at Vivamex. Not sure what a big tip is reading your post. I was going to add your info to "Dream Chica" or "Dream Latina" updates.

Aztec is the other spa on Revolution. Having paper spread over the massage table is a turn-off for me. Like the doctor's office set-up. Has a sign that reads "Do not Request Sex." I wonder who had sex at Aztec from this forum and can talk about it. Did anyone post it?

Check you body for week to make sure you did not pick a fungi from all the sheet contact.

Here's their site, the prices are posted
http://www.vivamexspa.com/massagenew.htm

DJ FourMoney
07-23-09, 21:17
Yeah I have no fucking idea what he's talking about. Kinda don't care either.

CCLOL, well anyway, I think I will go down today/tonight. I don't have any other plans and don't have to be at work until 5pm, ya cut hours, boo less money, but whatever. I have the same schedule next week! Back to Back trips?

Only if this Cheap experiment works.

Phordphan
07-23-09, 21:24
It was a taxi libre and we both knew he was chiseling me. He couldn't look me in the eye when I asked how much and made him repeat it.
I will certainly ask ahead in future.Oh, a Libre. That's certainly a different matter. Things are tough right now, but chiseling customers is never the solution. Bad karma.

Wooterz
07-24-09, 19:57
Drove down to Tijuana on Wednesday (7/22). Left the house at around 9:00pm for I thought would be a ~1 hour 30 minute drive. When I arrived at the $5 parking lot behind the Jack-In-The-Box, the clock had struck midnight. There was some construction being done on the 5 South which converted the highway from 5 lanes down to 1, causing insanely bad traffic. When I say insanely bad traffic, I mean insanely bad traffic for Southern California on a Wednesday night at 10:30pm (read: horrible). Anyways, I walked over the bridge and hitched a taxi to Adelitas Bar. The taxi driver was either drunk, incompetent, or trying to scare me. He was swerving all over the street, often times towards pedestrians, coming within several feet of running them over. He also took a detour from Calle Coahuila to show me Purple Rain even when I insisted that I didn't want to go there. Needless to say, he got no "teep" from me.

Inside Adelitas, there were less chicas present than usual, most likely due to the time/day of week. I saw a couple of familiar faces from previous trips and some new ones. I ordered a beer, sat down for a minute, and scoped the scene. A petite chica approached me and we chit-chatted for a while. She was from Vera Cruz (aren't they all), 23, morena. Can't remember her name, might have started with an M. Althought not bad looking by any means, I wasn't really in to her. She asked for a beer and agreed. Her attitude was very geniune, no hustle, no rush, no bs. My Espanol was on point and we had a pretty decent conversation even with the language barrier. I finally gave in and decided to go arriba.

Upstairs was much of the same, no rush, no hassle. I was her first customer of the night so the sights and smells were fresh. We got undressed and she laid down next to me. She didn't give oral and I didn't even ask, we just went straight to mish. In the sack, she was very tight, almost too tight, even for an average-sized guy such as myself. I went slow to get acclimated to the tight situation at hand and it didn't take very long for me to finish. Nothing spectacular but not a bad time by any means. We cleaned up and chit-chatted for a while, I paid the fine and we parted ways. I took a taxi to la linea and walked to the checkpoint. I was a little nervous as I was still rocking the old license and birth certificate combo and while the border agent didn't hassle me for that, he did ask me a bunch of questions and made me lift up my pant legs to see if I was smuggling anything across. Everything was fine and grand, I got in my car and drove home.

While I enjoyed my time in TJ, I wasn't 100% satisfied so I may take another trip down there tonight if I'm not too tired after work. One question I've been dying to ask you mongers: What's the lowdown on the tall, stacked chica with black/blonde highlights and butterfly tramp stamp above her butt? She looks very similar to the pornstar Krystal Steal and is always hanging near hottie central, usually in jeans and white-ish top (if I recall correct). I've seen her every single time I've been there but held off because I have a feeling she may be too overly mechanical upstairs. Help out a fellow monger with some info, I know one of you guys have handled that.

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Surfnk9
07-25-09, 19:53
Hey,

I just wanted to introduce myself to the boards. I just relocated from northern California to SD and can’t wait to get my ass to Tijuana. Do people ever meet up and roll down together? I have never been to la zona, but have been to Tijuana a million times, I have family down there. I pretty much speak fluent Spanish. Well, I’ll be reading through the posts to get as much info as I can. Get at me.

Yes, some people get together and monger in a group. But be very careful. This is an anonymous board so you never know who you are actually dealing with; even a senior long time member may be not be what they say they are.
Since you are pretty much a local and you know the culture and the language you have a big leg up on most gringos. But still read all of Brockton O’Tool’s guide and print Effjayel’s map. There is a lot of info and much of it may feel you don’t need, but situations change and at some point in the future you may need it. Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. The map is tops too.
Good luck and welcome. We look forward to hearing from you soon.

Dylan
07-25-09, 21:39
I also went to VivaMex Spa last week, and had a massage tech that I'd never had before named Angie. very little English, and works every day except for Friday.

She had lots of strength, and gave a great massage. It was hot outside and inside. I had to take a shower before and after. Luckily there was a great floor fan in there, and I was able to dry out my clothes before heading to Hong Kong.

$39.00 plus tip for one hour.

Dylan

Wooterz
07-29-09, 05:26
I'm making it a priority to post more TR's to get this place back to what it once was so here's another from Sunday night (7/26).

Took another trip down to TJ to take care of some unfinished business. In a ideal world, I probably wouldn't have gone on a Sunday but it was my only day off from work so I decided to take the plunge. Left the house at around 10:00pm and got down to the border at around 11:30pm. Traffic wasn't bad on the 5 South, although it was pretty bad for the people coming back on the 5 North (got to love Southern California). Parked behind the Jack-In-The-Box, walked across, hitched a taxi. My goal was to visit Hong Kong and the Alley before I engaged in any activity. I didn't realize how close Hong Kong was to Adelitas. Walked into Hong Kong and was pleasantly surprised, it was completely different from what I had envisioned. I didn't realize I had held such a huge misconception about Hong Kong for so long now. The archived TR's back from ~2004-2006 painted a much different picture, considering the place has been remodeled and changed.

The chicas at Hong Kong looked pretty damn good and the club had a very nice atmosphere to it, definitely appealing to us "Americanos" who are used to strip clubs here in the US. I sat back with my beer and soaked up the sights and sounds. A couple of girls approached me but our discussions never really panned out as they seemed a little too business-like. After roughly 45 minutes, I decided to leave and check out the alley. Again, I was surprised by the quality of the chicas present. Several girls grabbed my jacket as I walked by, a little awkward but kind of cool at the same time. However, something about the whole "stigma" that comes with picking up a prostitute on the street in front of all her "hooker" friends made it too embarrassing for me to finalize anything. Plus, I had read on another board that muggings have been on the rise in the Zona so I decided to play it safe and headed over to Adelitas.

Inside Adelitas, there were a decent amount of girls working for a late Sunday night. The quality was fairly up to par, with most girls ranking around the 7-8 range on my scale. I saw the girl I was with on Wednesday night and had to deal with her puppy dog looks all night from across the bar but it all worked out. The girls outnumbered the mongers roughly 1.5:1, but again, the complete bombshell looking girls just weren't present. On this trip, it took a considerable amount of time for me to find the right girl for me. Enter ______. I wish I could remember her name but alas, I'm terrible with names, especially when I'm buzzing and it's loud as hell in there. She was from Tijuana, 20, and spoke very little English. Her English was downright awful and communicating with her was very difficult, even though I can speak some Espanol. It was surprising because she looked like your typical American girl. She was short, had straight black hair, fair skin (Caucasian), nice sized natural breasts, with a little baby fat, but not chubby by any means, and wore a white dress that didn't reveal a huge amount of skin. We chit-chatted for a little while and supposedly she had only started working there two weeks ago. This is usually where my BS meter skyrockets but she seemed very genuine. Either that or she was an incredibly good liar (more about this in the next section). After she finished her drink, we headed arriba.

It started becoming a little obvious she was still new at this point because as we exited the curtains to the street, she turned right instead of left and took me down the sidewalk (we were holding hands). I was sort of thinking "wtf" and she looked confused as hell, not knowing where to go, till I grabbed her and we went the other way. Next, when we went to pay the hotel clerk, he asked her in spanish what her name was, like the guy didn't know her. In the room, I ended up having to set up the blanket and got the ball rolling. She looked good without the dress off and we hopped into the sack. She went straight into some crazy DFK which sort of threw me off guard. After a little while we went at it. Everything was nice and tight, no complaints whatsoever. Cue in some of the old "in-n-out" and some more DFK for ~15-20 minutes. She was very passionate and seemed generally into it, giving tons of eye contact, caressing my face, and kissing me. I ended up blowing two loads. She asked if I wanted to wait as she took a shower, of course I did. Afterward, we talked a little and she asked if it was good. I assured her it was good and we exchanged good byes. I hitched a cab back to la linea, the driver was cool as hell. Crossed the border and drove home, almost falling asleep behind the wheel several times and getting honked at by other motorists. Made it home by 5am, slept for 2 hours, then woke up and went to work. Man I love summertime.

Stay safe.

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Sound7
07-29-09, 20:29
Alex does light to medium massage in combination style strokes. Moves the fan around to cool-off. Report to work after 4:30 pm.

What shift is Angie on ?

I also went to VivaMex Spa last week, and had a massage tech that I'd never had before named Angie. very little English, and works every day except for Friday.

She had lots of strength, and gave a great massage. It was hot outside and inside. I had to take a shower before and after. Luckily there was a great floor fan in there, and I was able to dry out my clothes before heading to Hong Kong.

$39.00 plus tip for one hour.

Dylan

Country John
07-29-09, 21:20
Happy birthday Tijuana.

Lots of street closures around Zona Rio and Plaza Rio etc. Lots of cops out, they'll have their hands full so don't pick this weekend to do something stupid and get introduced into the Mexican justice system for ANY reason, it could take a week just to get processed.

Have your paperwork in order, get to the Zona and hang there unless you know your way around and want to partake in the festivities. There will be lots going on and traffic will be fucked up. I'm not sure if you can get a quick route to the Zona from the border. I'll see what I can find out and come back,

Cobra Comander
07-29-09, 22:14
Ok so I went down last Monday and "was planning" on writing a long detailed report but... I'm am very lazy and never did it and probably won't. BUT I did wanna clue you guys in that I spent several hours in and out of Delicias talking to the very butch lesbian barmaid Lindy and getting hammered on 12 peso beers. Around 4 this hottie named Belen shows up and we have eye sex from across the bar for several hours as I kept leaving after each beer to check out the other bars. When I finally talked to her and ought her a drink the mesero told me I could take her in that horrid "VIP" room for a 5 fisha bucket ($35 or 480 pesos) and also says "you can have sex in there." FANTASTIC. So off we went. Got very comfortable and was making out ect. I had my own condom that I put on the arm of the couch thing but she wound up sliding down on me without it and we went at it for awhile bb.... Turned her over and fucked her that way for another several minutes until I finally put the rubber on. Also while she was riding me and I was sucking on her tits milk began coming out in copious amounts, which really surprised me since she told me her kid was two years old already.

Anyways , finished up and she went back to the table with the rest of her beer. I didn't stay long as I didn't wanna get "attached" to another puta.


CC

Efjayel
07-31-09, 05:55
However, something about the whole "stigma" that comes with picking up a prostitute on the street in front of all her "hooker" friends made it too embarrassing for me to finalize anything.
Stay safe.

Yeah I know what you mean. Not only the hookers friends you have to be concerned about being lookie loos but the pedestrians walking the street. I always imagine they're thinking, "What a pervert!" LOL

The only paradita I ever picked up was standing by herself and practically no other girls where standing in the alley that night. Maybe like 10 or so and where spread out. Was oddly slow for a weekend night.


Nice report Wooterz. I'm surprised you've never been to HK. That was weird that the AB girl didn't know where the hotel was or that the receptionist didn't know her name. Unless she truly was new but even at two weeks she should have at least known where the hotel was. Maybe it was her first day but didn't want to admit to it or else someone could take advantage of her for not knowing the ropes.

CJ, is this 120 year anniversary going to last only the weekend? Cause I plan to go after the weekend and would hate to deal with all the road blocks and commotion.

Sgt Perv
07-31-09, 16:00
However, something about the whole "stigma" that comes with picking up a prostitute on the street in front of all her "hooker" friends made it too embarrassing for me to finalize anything. Plus, I had read on another board that muggings have been on the rise in the Zona so I decided to play it safe and headed over to Adelitas.Everyone in the zona knows the score. Be proud that you are getting yours. The first time is always the hardest but after that it is just business with a happy ending.

As far as the mugging, just keep looking behind you because they do not want you to see their faces. It is not like they confront you face to face, so just look around at everybody coming behind you. Keep your head on a swivel.

Country John
07-31-09, 17:33
I think it ended last night with a concert at plaza rio. I am not aware of anything planned for the weekend.

Wooterz
07-31-09, 19:09
Yeah I know what you mean. Not only the hookers friends you have to be concerned about being lookie loos but the pedestrians walking the street. I always imagine they're thinking, "What a pervert!" LOL

The only paradita I ever picked up was standing by herself and practically no other girls where standing in the alley that night. Maybe like 10 or so and where spread out. Was oddly slow for a weekend night.

Nice report Wooterz. I'm surprised you've never been to HK. That was weird that the AB girl didn't know where the hotel was or that the receptionist didn't know her name. Unless she truly was new but even at two weeks she should have at least known where the hotel was. Maybe it was her first day but didn't want to admit to it or else someone could take advantage of her for not knowing the ropes.

CJ, is this 120 year anniversary going to last only the weekend? Cause I plan to go after the weekend and would hate to deal with all the road blocks and commotion.Thanks bro. Well, after we finished and we were walking back downstairs, the girl told me that was her first time going arriba and she seemed unsure of herself. Didn't really make much sense to me, I was thinking the exact same thing as you. Plus, I didn't really know what to say to her as I felt bad, but hey, at least I'm in her age class and not some really old perv monger. The more I think about it, the more I think that was probably one of her first nights there.

Good luck on your next trip FJL. I also forgot one HUGE detail in my last TR that I'm going to share right now:

I know why TJ citizens hate our guts and continue to take advantage of us. There was a monger in AB, drunker than hell, doing the whole "I'm blacked out" walk around the stage for hours. He would go up to random people and show them a spot on his pants near his package where he split alcohol. The chicas just sort of laughed it off and the policia just stood there not doing much. Even though he was clearly intoxicated, he was able to order another beer, although the bartender did tell him to slow down. People need to do their homework before they hit up TJ, you should NEVER be that drunk in public, especially in a foreign country.

Stay safe guys.

Sgt Perv
08-01-09, 01:04
You're right but it feels awkward going up to a girl that's basically a stranger and saying, "suck my cock!" at just earshot distance from her friends. The only other times I've ever said that in public was with a group of guy friends but there's no awkwardness there since it takes on a whole different meaning. :)I would be embarrassed to be that crude too. Try saying "oral" or something with a less aggressive crude sounding. Why be so crude on the streets ? I mean DAMN.

Seems more of how you are asking for it than what people are going to be thinking that is embarrassing. What do you think people are thinking when you come outside of a club with a chica and then go into a hotel ? What do you think people are thinking just seeing you in the zona ? What do you think the Taxi driver is thinking when you ask him to drop you off in the zona ? Really, it has nothing to do with what people are thinking that embarrasses you. You are embarrassed at how you are asking, which I totally understand. :D

Save the "suck my cock" for the room.

Lulu Pussy
08-02-09, 04:50
Wanted to figure out distances to my favorite places on Earth. Copy and paste the following numbers into Google Earth to find where the action is (actually, the real action is right next door to these places):

Adelita's, specifically Hottie Central: 32°32'15.54"N, 117° 2'22.01"W
Hong Kong, new entrance: 32°32'15.72"N, 117° 2'24.29"W
Hong Kong, old entrance: 32°32'14.13"N, 117° 2'24.11"W
Chicago Club: 32°32'17.63"N, 117° 2'19.80"W

Sgt Perv
08-02-09, 05:49
I was talking about starting thread for hotel recommendations in TJ and One Wing Low started one with restaurants also.

Thanks

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=3068

So if you guys can add your recommendations and opinions it would be a great help tip all who want to spend the night in TJ.

Efjayel
08-03-09, 07:57
I was talking about starting thread for hotel recommendations in TJ and One Wing Low started one with restaurants also.

Thanks

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=3068

So if you guys can add your recommendations and opinions it would be a great help tip all who want to spend the night in TJ.


Wow, when did One Wang Low get all those sub forums? Good job buddy :D

Sound7
08-05-09, 02:11
August 16 2009 Chinese Food & Cultural

Location: Avenida Revolucion

August 21 - September 17 Tijuana Fair

Location: Morelos Park (Avenida Insugentes)

Tortellini
08-05-09, 02:51
I am currently in San Francisco (senior monger in KY) and can you please give me advice on this proposed Tijuana trip.

Rent a car from San Francisco to border by Mexico.

Walk over and take the appropriate cab to Motel Premier.

Stay at Motel Premier 2-3 days

Not sure which escort site to use?

Can someone at the hotel find me an escort?

Any information would be greatly appreciated for this newbie traveler.

Thanks!

Sgt Perv
08-05-09, 18:50
I am currently in San Francisco (senior monger in KY) and can you please give me advice on this proposed Tijuana trip.

Rent a car from San Francisco to border by Mexico.

Walk over and take the appropriate cab to Motel Premier.

Stay at Motel Premier 2-3 daysI do not know your situation but if you are going solo even two people, Take a plane to San Diego, store your things in a locker,taxi or walk to trolley and trolley to the border.

You are talking about a 500 mile drive with the last 200 miles being fucked up California traffic (10 plus hours). Spending 4-5 days car rental fees, 2 tanks of fuel and 2-3 days parking lot fees and wasting a day traveling to be worn out when you get there. Thats one way.

Seems to me that a plane is cheaper and faster. That will give you more time to enjoy TJ.

If you are thinking scenery south of LA, well just stand in the middle of a parking lot to get an idea of what you will see.

Flights are 1.5 hrs long and round trip is around $120. You can not just rent a car for that price.

As far as escort ,I have never used a escort service but finding someone at the hotel may not be the best of plans. Read the escort section here where Country John has made some recommendations.
Do not miss the opportunity to taxi to the zona for the sights. Honk kong bar has excellant strip show and AB has some real hotties.

Surfnk9
08-06-09, 18:50
I am currently in San Francisco (senior monger in KY) and can you please give me advice on this proposed Tijuana trip.

Rent a car from San Francisco to border by Mexico.

Walk over and take the appropriate cab to Motel Premier.

Stay at Motel Premier 2-3 days

Not sure which escort site to use?

Can someone at the hotel find me an escort?

Any information would be greatly appreciated for this newbie traveler.

Thanks!
PP2009 and Sgt. Perv are both right on, take a plane. Driving down will take longer and you’ll spend more money. Take an early flight and you'll be getting a blow job around lunch time!
Some mongers like to stay in a hotel outside of Zona Norte and some like to stay in a hotel in the Zona. I like the Cascadas, next to HK. If you decide to stay there be sure that your room is not too close to the club, the music goes all night. Also I take a daypack with my monger essentials for the overnights in hotels of this caliber. It includes my own soap, shampoo, and bath towel, change of clothes, flavored lube and flavored condoms, (better for BJs ). Outside the Zona, Villa de Zaragosa is good, clean and safe.
Happy hunting!

Efjayel
08-06-09, 19:55
If you are thinking scenery south of LA, well just stand in the middle of a parking lot to get an idea of what you will see.What does this mean? Or is it supposed to be a pun about L.A. traffic? :)


According to Google maps the drive from San Francisco to Tijuana is almost an 8 hour drive. I'm not sure about that cause I used to work with some guys that lived in San Jose and they told me that their drive from San Jose to L.A. was already 8 hours. And keep in mind that San Jose is closer to L.A. than San Fran. And to get to Tj from L.A. it's at least another 2 hours.

So if they are telling the truth then a drive from San Francisco to Tijuana would could easily be over 10 hours and that's not including driving through traffic. So driving would be a bad idea.

I find it funny that if you spend a day driving, you're exhausted afterwards even though you spent the whole day sitting down. I remember my 2 hour drives from L.A. to tj, I would be a bit tired afterwards. Can't even imagine what it would be like from an 8 hour drive.

Since you guys are saying it's better to fly, wouldn't it be even easier if he just flew straight to Tijuana airport instead? Or would it be more of a hassle since it's considered an international trip?

Sgt Perv
08-06-09, 20:50
What does this mean? Or is it supposed to be a pun about L.A. traffic? :)Exactly there is some scenery but with the traffic you will be watching cars. Could you imagine catching the beginning of rush hour WOW. Think about the time he would have to leave in order to miss it completely.


Since you guys are saying it's better to fly, wouldn't it be even easier if he just flew straight to Tijuana airport instead? Or would it be more of a hassle since it's considered an international trip?Commuter flights within California are cheaper and which airport would you want to leave some luggage at the airport lockers ?

If he does not like the trolley he could easily taxi to the border but I do not know how much it would be for the ride ( maybe $30). Still better/cheaper than driving that long fucked up way.

Super Gato
08-06-09, 23:30
Since you guys are saying it's better to fly, wouldn't it be even easier if he just flew straight to Tijuana airport instead? Or would it be more of a hassle since it's considered an international trip?

Flying into TIJ on a commercial airline would mean flying through Guadalajara, Monterrey, Mexico City or some other city in Mexico since there are no commercial flights to the US. So it would take longer than a flight from SFO and cost a ton more than flying on one of the zillion flights daily between San Diego and the Bay Area.

edited to add: I take that back, Volaris will offer a nonstop from Oakland to Tijuana starting August 28th. On the dates I plugged in for some random dates in September, the lowest price I could find was $240 (hand luggage only, extra for checked bags). It is still going to be cheaper and you'll have more options to fly into San Diego and take a taxi and/or the trolley.

Cool
08-07-09, 05:24
PP2009 and Sgt. Perv are both right on, take a plane. Driving down will take longer and you’ll spend more money. Take an early flight and you'll be getting a blow job around lunch time!
Some mongers like to stay in a hotel outside of Zona Norte and some like to stay in a hotel in the Zona. I like the Cascadas, next to HK. If you decide to stay there be sure that your room is not too close to the club, the music goes all night. Also I take a daypack with my monger essentials for the overnights in hotels of this caliber. It includes my own soap, shampoo, and bath towel, change of clothes, flavored lube and flavored condoms, (better for BJs ). Outside the Zona, Villa de Zaragosa is good, clean and safe.
Happy hunting!

Sorry to burst your bubble but most TJ providers hate flavored lube. works good stateside though.

SteeleCan
08-07-09, 06:19
Ok this report is definitely coming from a rookie experience. I had just come out of Hong Kong from hooking up with a girl read the report here http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=913678&postcount=1017 . I was walking down the street and this guy approached me with a flier and he was really hyping up Mermaids. Normally I wouldnt pay any attention to this, but I was curious about it so I patronized the guy for a minute.

It was literally directly across the street. I walked over their and there was some girls across the street. There was this really thick girl borderline bbw sitting on a stool and some girls around her. I walked up the stairs and there were a bunch of mirrors and a couch. I sat down and then they commenced with the lineup. Now let me tell you fellas, it was like picking the best of the worst. None of them floated my boat. I wound up picking the girl who was smiling at me the whole time. The other girls look like they hated there lives lol. Ive read on other forms to pick the girl who is showing you interest and smiling at you.

The massage was $40 and paid it to the one in charge the bbw. She spoke english and actually was kinda cute. Asked if I wanted a beer, yes for only $2, then asked if I wanted to buy the lady a drink $7,damn. Hard to say no with her standing right there lol.

Ok fellas, I definately know these MP are fronts for sex, but she literally rubbed me down less than 5 mins and wanted me to flip. I would have at least liked 15 mins of a massage. What! We tried to negotiate, but I drew a blank and couldnt remember how to say "how much" in spanish. She had to get bbw to help with the negotiations she came in and lifted up my towel to get a peak for herself. I actually didnt mind it lol. She said "$130 but for you $90" I just wanted a HJ and get out of there.

The girl I chose, her name is Gina. She was really skinny and didnt have any of the body features I like. No booty or boobs! We agreed on $30 for a HJ and she went to work. I busted,finished my drink, and got out of there quick. Will not be back. I'd rather spend $60 across the street. Had to see what it was like though.

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Locoaztec14
08-07-09, 06:19
PP2009 and Sgt. Perv are both right on, take a plane. Driving down will take longer and you’ll spend more money. Take an early flight and you'll be getting a blow job around lunch time!

I Agree!! I'm from San Jose. It's a pain to drive down to TJ.

Surfnk9
08-07-09, 19:06
Sorry to burst your bubble but most TJ providers hate flavored lube. works good stateside though.

That’s odd; I got the idea from a gal out of HK.
After putting the condom on, she took a tissue to wipe off the lube. She told me she didn’t like the taste of the lube on the condoms the hotel supplies. The next time there I pulled out my own flavored condoms and she happy, which resulted in an enthusiastic longer BJ. She said it was because she liked the flavor and that I thought enough about her and her dislike of the other condoms.
I have made it a habit and had nothing but positive results, of course like so many things in the Zona YMMV.

Sgt Perv
08-07-09, 20:15
Stay at Motel Premier 2-3 days

Any information would be greatly appreciated for this newbie traveler.

Thanks! State what you want out of your hotel like location, price, security, comfort level and maybe someone can help you with things you may have not thought about yet. Are you planning on seeing anything in Tijuana? If you are planning to visit the zona, visit first during the daytime while it is slow. This way you can walk all through the clubs and see what is there before the crowds show up. This will add to your comfort level at night because you will know the lay of the land. The zona does not seem as scary during the day light hours. Be sure to read and get the map at.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2995

Efjayel
08-08-09, 00:20
Ok this report is definitely coming from a rookie experience. I had just come out of Hong Kong from hooking up with a girl read the report here http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=913678&postcount=1017 . I was walking down the street and this guy approached me with a flier and he was really hyping up Mermaids. Normally I wouldnt pay any attention to this, but I was curious about it so I patronized the guy for a minute.

It was literally directly across the street. I walked over their and there was some girls across the street. There was this really thick girl borderline bbw sitting on a stool and some girls around her. I walked up the stairs and there were a bunch of mirrors and a couch. I sat down and then they commenced with the lineup. Now let me tell you fellas, it was like picking the best of the worst. None of them floated my boat. I wound up picking the girl who was smiling at me the whole time. The other girls look like they hated there lives lol. Ive read on other forms to pick the girl who is showing you interest and smiling at you.

The massage was $40 and paid it to the one in charge the bbw. She spoke english and actually was kinda cute. Asked if I wanted a beer, yes for only $2, then asked if I wanted to buy the lady a drink $7,damn. Hard to say no with her standing right there lol.

Ok fellas, I definately know these MP are fronts for sex, but she literally rubbed me down less than 5 mins and wanted me to flip. I would have at least liked 15 mins of a massage. What! We tried to negotiate, but I drew a blank and couldnt remember how to say "how much" in spanish. She had to get bbw to help with the negotiations she came in and lifted up my towel to get a peak for herself. I actually didnt mind it lol. She said "$130 but for you $90" I just wanted a HJ and get out of there.

The girl I chose, her name is Gina. She was really skinny and didnt have any of the body features I like. No booty or boobs! We agreed on $30 for a HJ and she went to work. I busted,finished my drink, and got out of there quick. Will not be back. I'd rather spend $60 across the street. Had to see what it was like though.


So you spent $90 dollars for a bad massage and tug from a below average girl?

I have also been curious about the massage parlors but never risked trying them. Mostly out of obligation in that I would feel bad if I didn't choose anyone after they already lined up for me even if they are all ugos. At the bars I tend to cave in to the pushy girls because I think they would feel bad if I where to reject them.

Sgt Perv
08-08-09, 01:14
At the bars I tend to cave in to the pushy girls because I think they would feel bad if I where to reject them.Man up and buy only what you want.:D All the chicas know the deal, no real feelings (emotional) are being hurt. You are not rejecting them you are merely choosing another.

If you ever want a massage ,just go to the legit ones on Ave Rev. and then find a paradita or even club chica for the happy ending. Better/longer massage and cheaper all around. I tend to get the massage "after" an arriba so I can relax and enjoy the massage to the utmost ( eyes closed and Mr.Happy passed out across my boys).

I got fleeced for about $120 USD on the combo massage/happy ending my first trip to TJ. A shitty quick massage with a quick lame fuck for a total of 30 min.. I learned from that and have not repeated.

Steelecan is just going through the trial and err process to see what fits him. Even though he knows what has been said about places, sometimes you have to see for yourself ( human nature). He only got a bad experience and was not heavily drained of his cash. He has learned from it and that is what will help him in the future. Nice TR Steelecan !

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Cobra Comander
08-08-09, 08:36
of course like so many things in the Zona YMMV.

Like the part where I don't use them.... OOPS!

CC

Cobra Comander
08-08-09, 08:39
I would feel bad if I didn't choose anyone after they already lined up for me even if they are all ugos.

Here you go again with your "I might feel bad" or "I don't wanna look like a cheap-ass" shit again. GET OVER IT. MAN UP. Everyone knows why you're there. It's the nature of the game so play it.... or it plays you....

CC

Cobra Comander
08-08-09, 08:42
I love that place though.... Some super cool chicas there who are just down to chill and drink and put up with my horrible spanish. I LOVE going in there to just take a break from all the noize and other bullshit (chips, stuffed animals ect) in la zona. AND my EX favorita is there now... so... thats a WHOLE different story.

CC

Efjayel
08-08-09, 23:28
Here you go again with your "I might feel bad" or "I don't wanna look like a cheap-ass" shit again. GET OVER IT. MAN UP. Everyone knows why you're there. It's the nature of the game so play it.... or it plays you....

CC


lol I know. But it's not like I haven't turned down a few hotties in my time. The more aggressive ones I definitely turn down. The compassionate and sincere girls are harder for me to turn down.

This reminds me of one my previous regular chicas. She would tell me that I should go with another girl when I was the slightest bit hesitant on going upstairs with her. That she would be okay with it. I always admired her for caring enough to help her co-workers make money as well. She was never pushy like many of the other girls either. I usually ended up choosing her anyways. Would give a nice GFE. :)

Ninguno Especial
08-15-09, 16:35
If you have been walking in best re-think and take a taxi. What few police are in the area are paid off by the muggers. Too many deportees from USA are dropped at the S.Y. entrance to Mexico (TJ). Several gang members have re-grouped to form gangs in TJ. Broad day light attacks even on gringos in pairs so a wingman doesn't mean shit these days.

Link below photos taken at NW corner of Constitution and Primera (top of hill). Rule of thumb do not walk South of the alley but the muggers are now slipping into the alley and lower part of Constitution so be extra careful there as well.

Best to walk between the alley and Coahulia by way of Las Chavelas or Hong Kong.

http://ed.grandiarioregional.com/impreso/Tijuana/081209/12-08-2009%20TIJ_16A.pdf

Bunky
08-15-09, 18:49
Ninguno Especial helpfully posted a link to a newspaper story describing the conduct of rateros in the Zona Norte:

http://ed.grandiarioregional.com/impreso/Tijuana/081209/12-08-2009%20TIJ_16A.pdf

Unfortunately my Spanish is not good enough to understand it, and it appears to be a scanned PDF so I can't copy the text in order to paste into an online translator.

Can one of our Spanish speakers translate this please? Doesn't have to be word for word. But the gist would be nice.

Thanks in advance,

Bunky

Latin Bound
08-15-09, 20:06
Ninguno Especial helpfully posted a link to a newspaper story describing the conduct of rateros in the Zona Norte:

http://ed.grandiarioregional.com/impreso/Tijuana/081209/12-08-2009%20TIJ_16A.pdf

Unfortunately my Spanish is not good enough to understand it, and it appears to be a scanned PDF so I can't copy the text in order to paste into an online translator.

Can one of our Spanish speakers translate this please? Doesn't have to be word for word. But the gist would be nice.

Thanks in advance,

BunkyThere are 5 gangs working the area. The m/o is for 2 to follow the target, mostly drunks and start their chase around the clock area and wait until they come to 1st and constitution towards coahuila. Once the victim approach the streetwalker. That is when they jump the victim holding them with a choke hold. Once they are down another two jump in the action and take the jewelry, shoes, and wallet of the person. Mostly it happens at night or in the early hours of the morning. When the municipal police is approached with the problem they don't intervene. Is a special task force the only ones doing so. The streetwalkers are afraid to talk so they don't fall under the gangs wrath.

That is the jist.

Phordphan
08-15-09, 21:36
Ninguno Especial helpfully posted a link to a newspaper story describing the conduct of rateros in the Zona Norte:

http://ed.grandiarioregional.com/impreso/Tijuana/081209/12-08-2009%20TIJ_16A.pdf

Unfortunately my Spanish is not good enough to understand it, and it appears to be a scanned PDF so I can't copy the text in order to paste into an online translator.

Can one of our Spanish speakers translate this please? Doesn't have to be word for word. But the gist would be nice.

Thanks in advance,

Bunky

You can copy the text if you have Acrobat.

This is it via Babelfish. Not great, but it will give you the gist.

TIJUANA. - Tourist, and citizens that they go to the bars of the North Zone and of first picture of the city they are being victims of assaults and in risk of until being killed a known hands of mafi ace like “chineros” and “tapemen” who operate in this zone, without the authority he can put them after the grates. A victim of these criminal bands, who by security prefi ere to omit its name, denounced to Voice Citizen the form in which operates these delinquents, sending individual videos of the moment at which they commit the illicit one. The “chineros” are subjects that rob the properties, the money and until the shoes and the clothes. They hold behind to its victims of way surprise, and they implement a “key Chinese” to the neck, of he is that them there it knows so with mote. These bands operate from the area of the monumental clock, in the avenue Revolution, the street First and Constitution, Coahuila alley, as well as in the Young Heroes, and street Second, that is to say, they maintain a boundary of being able in all the Zone Center without nobody it puts a stop to them and commit his assaults in view of all. At least 5 bands exist, reveals the denouncer, the one of “the Panda”, “The Fat person”, “the Iván”, “Moralillo”, “the Flacoman”, that is dedicated to assault to those who leave the bars or they go by the services of one sexoservidora in the Coahuila street. The “tapemen” on the other hand, called thus to snatch the chains, even, they operate in the neighborhood of the Cathedral, was denounced, and have detected in criminal action two-way that they snatch the purses to the ladies, while they walk by the street in this area. In the sent videos, it is revealed modus operandi: two subjects, firstly, they watch and they study his victim, almost always people in state of intoxication they are the perfect target. The unwary ones are chosen, preferably, in the area of the monumental clock, they are persecuted cautiously by the delinquents, who they hope that its “prey” arrives at the street First and Constitution, so that it lowers towards the Coahuila alley. There, at the precise moment at which this one - her victim approaches to a sexoservidora, they decide to act. While other two subjects are close of the victim, those that came behind, they quickly attack it by the back. They hold it of the neck they drown and it stops to debilitate it and asfi to xiar it, which causes that the person falls without sense to ground. At those moments the other two subjects that they were close they conduct battle and they, in a matter of seconds, they undress the victim of the portfolio, clock, shoes, and articles to dress. The assaulted person is distance in the ground without air and in danger that asfi xie, while the delinquents flee without nobody can stop them. It is very common that these attacks they happen at night or in the dawns, outside of the bars without Municipal police can come up crimes. Even, they denounce that the elements of the Municipal Police - some times colluded with pelafustanesni at least they put with these bands, it is only a special group of the Police the one gets that them to stop. Nevertheless, to the being taken before Public ministry, the lack of the denunciation on the part of the victim generates that these rowdies leave free, in two or three weeks, and return to streets to continue berthing more people. Although the first picture of the city, is a sectored zone by the Municipal Police, the “chineros” and the “tapemen”, operate with total impunity. The assaults are committed against “paraditas”, but they from fear of to be attacked by these bands they decide to shut up, not to denounce the facts, that in many occasions, it is called on to them to be present at.

Sgt Perv
08-15-09, 23:33
I remember when the federals used to hang out on the corners in packs of two or three. That would stop the muggers from having an escape route.

Guess taking your shoes will prevent you from chasing them.

Still everyone on those businesses know this is happening and its hurting their income. Why do they not each just pony up a little money and pool it together to hire security? Security at the corners in packs of two or three will stop them from trying to mug people. How much would it cost each large business..200 -300 pesos a day max? Smaller ones 20- 50 pesos ? Less than one customer spending at their business. They would easily make that up with more costumers .

Alley has the camera but security on the two corners of Constitution Ave would have an effect on all businesses in the zona. Used to love seeing the cops standing there.

Daytonamonger
08-16-09, 15:43
On my last trip to the zona, I spent 2 nights at the Fiesta Inn and cabbing back and forth from the hotel to the zona. I was very lucky not to encounter any muggers or rateros. I limited my movements from the zona to el arco and up and down revolution and only in the day time. At night I stayed in the zona and only moved from AB,HK, and the alley.

I am considering going to the zona tommorow as I'm off for 4 days. In your opinion with all the muggings is it safer just to cab to the AB bar and stay in the bar rather than hit up a paradita?

It seems like they are targeting those intoxicated by alcohol and gringos. I'm a big guy and it's usually a deterrent as I used to be a professional wrestler and I still have a lot of that size on my frame that guys with bad intentions tend to stay away because of the fact that if I got in a shot or two they'd be stunned.

Daytona

Ninguno Especial
08-16-09, 17:07
Due to too many deaths and law suits the LAPD stopped using choke holds. It is just a matter of time before some gringo is either put into coma due to lack of oxygen to the brain or flat out dies. Losing your money, ATM card, passport, car & house keys, shirt and shoes is one thing but is it worth losing your life? To save $5 on a taxi in and out?

Until we hear different (that is until a task force removes these vermin) don't be walking up or down the hill on Constitution, Ninos Heros and by all means do not walk from the clock on 1st over to Ninos Heros or even to Constitution.

The street girls in those areas can either move down the hill or pay the cops to remove the vermin.

Link below very informative as to why LAPD stopped using the choke hold.

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/6416/choke.html

SuperSteve
08-16-09, 17:20
I went with a wingman arriveed Friday night. Traffic really sucked getting there from 5 miles North of Oceanside to just after the fairgorunds. We arrived at about 7:30 cab to the Hotel, and walk to the Zona.

We first take a stroll through the alley. It seemed that there were more women out than usual, with some very hot bodied young things. As usual I don't have the b*lls to pull the trigger, although with how hot some of the laides were it will be soon.

First stop Tropical so the wingman can get in on the 2-1 beers. Some decent looking ladies (all hooked up), and the music is blaring, so we leave.

We next head over to Chicago Club. I see a favorita that I haven't seen in months, and siting with her is another Gringo who had written he would be there. We have a drink, and leave so the guy could be with her if he chose, and said we would meet up later. Not many people in the club, but some nice looking ladies for the small amount there. For those of you who are into Asian's, she was in Friday night.

Off the Adelitas. I have never seen it so slow in Adelitas, not many women or mongers, even hottie corner was bare. We have a drink and head out to Hong Kong.

Hong Kong was packed. The vibe was rocking, with probably 50-75 girls, and mongers galore. My wingman score with a hot spinner, who later was in the lesbo show.

We head back to Chicago Club, and I meet up with the old favorita. We go arriba for a GFE experience. She has another gringo on the line so I say bye bye, back for a quick walk through Adelitas. It was the same scene.

On to Las Chevlas. The wingman and I are the only Gringos in the place, and it is busy. Soon one of the ladies in the club comes up and asks me to dance. Off we go, no chemistry so go back and sit down. Wingman leaves to go to HK, so now I am the only Gringo. No problem, a senorita is eyeballing me, and soon comes over. I would say 6-7 in looks. We talk (a very loose interpretation of our conversation), and soon go arriba. First non-shaved P4P lady I have been with. This woman loved sex, and another GFE session. I go back inside for a couple of drinks, and then decide to go back to the hotel. Walk outside and it is daylight. I look at my pocket watch and it 7:30 AM, and walk back to the Hotel.

We meet to check out at noon and walk to breakfast at Nelson Restaurant in the Nelson Hotel. We stroll to the alley and the wingman hits up a young thing with a bod to die for. She says $20.00, and yes sin ropa. He decides to pass, but she is definately on my radar for my first street session.

Back into Hong Kong, and the infamous Salma jumps on me. The wingman pulls a hot lady dancing on the bar in front of him (says it is her fifth day, which is true because of what she asked Salma), and we are both off to arriba. Salma is her usual "what do you want, does it feel good", and a good session.

We walk back to la linea with virtually no wait, and back home.

A frist for me three BBBJ's with no negotiations, and all three GFE type sessions (6-8's). My last trip it was about hard bodied spinners (8-9's), and the session, while O. K., lacked the intensity of this trip.

I also understand that some of you may want to rip on me for walking from the Zona to Ave. Revo. Yes, there are risks involved, but not only is my head on a swivel, but I will actually stop several times and turn around. I stay keenly aware of the situation. If something does not appear right, I step into the street and let the possible situation go by, or cros the street. Thoughts from this trip. Adelitas was as slow as I have seen it in a year, most other clubs had about the same amount of women, but far fewer Gringos. There were more street girls, and some real stunners.

I will be back next weekend with another group fo three-four guys.

Health & happiness to all.

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Precocious One
08-16-09, 18:10
Due to too many deaths and law suits the LAPD stopped using choke holds. It is just a matter of time before some gringo is either put into coma due to lack of oxygen to the brain or flat out dies. Losing your money, ATM card, passport, car & house keys, shirt and shoes is one thing but is it worth losing your life? To save $5 on a taxi in and out?

Until we hear different (that is until a task force removes these vermin) don't be walking up or down the hill on Constitution, Ninos Heros and by all means do not walk from the clock on 1st over to Ninos Heros or even to Constitution.

The street girls in those areas can either move down the hill or pay the cops to remove the vermin.

Link below very informative as to why LAPD stopped using the choke hold.

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/6416/choke.html


Well said, Ninguno Especial.

Also, if you look at your previously referenced article, you will notice how precariously close the unconscious victim's head is to the concrete pillar. I can guarantee you one thing that it was not carefully placed there with precision but dropped there in contempt. If your head hits a solid object as such, you will suffer a concussion at best and a broken neck at worst. You do not want to be fu_king around when it comes to your head.

I am not trying to come off as some doom and gloom type individual. Out here in Monterrey, MX, I see or feel nothing different in regards to safety compared to last year even though business is universally down 25-30 percent(YOY). In fact, I would strongly recommend any guy that can take six months off to do so as I have never seen better conditions in regards to P4P in the four times that I have lived here in Mexico. I am positively and unequivocally getting the absolute sh_t fuc_ed out of me right now.