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Country John
10-02-09, 18:16
What is the story with taking a girl from AB or CC an bringing her back to your own personal hotel for the whole night.
Do the do this what can I expect them to charge?
Butch, there's an expression in the online forums community and it goes "WTFB," which is an acronym for "read the fucking board." There are LOTS of posts that address this topic.
I'll give you some info because this is your first post, please browse the board and read the O'Tool's guide. It's very accurate and up to date; it's worth reading.
You can ask ANY girl to go back to your room. Not all would be interested for a variety of reasons. Girls that are working the floor will usually stay until the end of their shift (by agreement with the management of the club) or you will pay a "bar fine" in an amount usually equal to her profit from ficha drinks on average for the night. They MUST generate about $60 a night for the club in drinks just to work there (At Adelita's, for example).
What you are requesting is a "TLN" or toda la noche, or and all nighter.
Girls at AB have been known to ask for between $300 and $500 for the "TLN." The night shift girls get off at 5am, so there is no "all night" left to spend but you still get to pay so getting a girl on the early shift is the way to go. The shift changes start at about 8PM so get there at about 7 and get to work.
A TLN usually ends at about 5AM although it's up to the girl who you will NOT argue with.
Unless you plan on screwing her brains out for 8 hours, you will be paying premium dollars for sleeping because after a night of drinking and mongering you'll most likely be a bit tired. You will also be exposing yourself to being ripped off is she's not straight.
The key is to ask, ask, ask. Start by finding the girl you like and then putting it to her.
You might be better off selecting a girl from an escort service than pulling one out of the club. You could save a substaintial amount of money.
It would also be cheaper to have several girls show up during the night if you insist on glam slamming until dawn.
A TLN is something that should be done with a girl you've sessioned before. You know her, she knows you and it could be a delightful evening with dinner, some wine and eventful sessions etc. If you have no favorites then you should either go with the service or spend your first few trips getting your feet wet along with your dick.
This is a general broad brush reply. If you search the threads you'll find much more info. Take some time and surf around here.
Good luck
Country John
Country John
10-02-09, 18:20
could be I did not get a card.. it was diagonal across the street from adelitas. says it is a massage place, does that help ?
Was it Mermaids? That's the only place I can think of across the street from AB.
Was it Mermaids? That's the only place I can think of across the street from AB.
Must be Mermaids cause Bar Tropical isnt exactly a massage parlor though it isnt too hard to find a chica in there willing to massage whatever you want in there for $$ hehe.
I might be going to TJ again soon. This time I'm thinking of using pesos.
Does anyone have a favorite cambio?
Any recent thoughts on dollars vs pesos?
Thanks
Is Bolero worth a visit?Sounds like Sr. Cabroncito is looking to show the Russians the best that Tijuana has to offer. (Even after warning them that it pales in comparison to other destinations they have previously visited.) If that's the case I think the only reasonable choice is the Hong Kong Club. For better or worse, the Hong Kong Club is what passes for upscale adult entertainment in Tijuana these days. Bolero, and the handful of other clubs still operating outside the Zona Norte, are shadows of their former selves. Most exist solely to rip off clueless newbies who fall for the scam where the taxi driver claims the Zona Norte establishments are closed.
The Hong Kong Cub has its problems. But at least it's newly renovated and the Russians will be (a little) impressed by the glitz. The girls may not be stunners. But at least there are plenty of them and if the Russians are inclined to sit and drink with them the Hong Kong Club is a nice venue. Finally I recommend the Hong Kong Club over Bolero because once Cabroncito finds a parking space in the Zona Norte his party can branch out to the Adelita Bar without having to drive.
Regards,
Bunky
Cabroncito
10-03-09, 18:24
they liked adelita and the massage place the best. Also they like the street girls. They wanted to true mexican experience, and yes bolero and amnesia were bad the night we went. I will not be back to TJ anytime soon. The value is poor and the security questionable. But good luck with your missions.
Sound like Sr. Cabroncito is looking to show the Russians the best that Tijuana has to offer. (Even after warning them that it pales in comparison to other destinations they have previously visited.) If that's the case I think the only reasonable choice is the Hong Kong Club. For better or worse, the Hong Kong Club is what passes for upscale adult entertainment in Tijuana these days. Bolero, and the handful of other clubs still operating outside the Zona Norte, are shadows of their former selves. Most exist solely to rip off clueless newbies who fall for the scam where the taxi driver claims the Zona Norte establishments are closed.
The Hong Kong Cub has its problems. But at least it's newly renovated and the Russians will be (a little) impressed by the glitz. The girls may not be stunners. But at least there are plenty of them and if the Russians are inclined to sit and drink with them the Hong Kong Club is a nice venue. Finally I recommend the Hong Kong Club over Bolero because once Cabroncito finds a parking space in the Zona Norte his party can branch out to the Adelita Bar without having to drive.
Regards,
Bunky
Precocious One
10-03-09, 18:35
i might be going to tj again soon. this time i'm thinking of using pesos.
does anyone have a favorite cambio?
any recent thoughts on dollars vs pesos?
thanks
hello tororojo,
the atm's give the absolute best exchange rates as they go through a clearing house, generally three to five percent better than the small casa de cambios. if you have a bofa atm, you can use santander serfin with no charge and i believe that there is no charge for banamex if you use a chase card.
if you have dollars that need to be exchanged, ixe banco generally gives the best rates. also, if you are planning on doing some sports book gambling, the tranrep001ions are in done dollars and not pesos. if you bring pesos, you will lose a minimum of five percent on the swing.
and yes, you should use pesos as there is a 25 percent+ difference in pricing($1000 pesos is $75.00). as srg perv has tried to stress here on numerous occasions, using dollars as opposed to pesos is simply stupid.
I believe that there is no charge for Banamex if you use a Chase card.
I think you mean to say "citibank". I bank with chase and I can assure you that there is a steep fee. Do a banamex search on google.
1. Can someone remind me about the #992 bus fare(2.25) and must I have coins vs bills ? Is there a fare that allows me to transfer to the trolley ? It's been awhile since I was there...thanks.
2. What do you guys think about carrying a laminated copy of your passport(plus visa copy) on the street vs the original ? I would have the original at the hotel. It works in south america but I have no idea about the border.
Many Thanks
1. Can someone remind me about the #992 bus fare(2.25) and must I have coins vs bills ? Is there a fare that allows me to transfer to the trolley? It's been awhile since I was there. Thanks.
Many ThanksWhen you board the #992 buy a day pass for $5.00. Any combination of bills or coins will work. The day pass is transferable to the trolley. Transfer to the "Blue Line" trolley at American Plaza, I believe it is the second stop after the trolley turns onto Broadway.The bus ride is around 10min, the trolley around 45min.
could be I did not get a card.. it was diagonal across the street from adelitas. says it is a massage place, does that help ?
Yes, that's Mermaids. Thanx.
[QUOTE=Shadow68]When you board the #992 buy a day pass for $5.00. Any combination of bills or coins will work. The day pass is transferable to the trolley. Transfer to the "Blue Line" trolley at American Plaza, I believe it is the second stop after the trolley turns onto Broadway.The bus ride is around 10min, the trolley around 45min.[/QUOTE
Excellent thanks.
hello tororojo,
the atm's give the absolute best exchange rates as they go through a clearing house, generally three to five percent better than the small casa de cambios. if you have a bofa atm, you can use santander serfin with no charge and i believe that there is no charge for banamex if you use a chase card.
if you have dollars that need to be exchanged, ixe banco generally gives the best rates. also, if you are planning on doing some sports book gambling, the tranrep001ions are in done dollars and not pesos. if you bring pesos, you will lose a minimum of five percent on the swing.
and yes, you should use pesos as there is a 25 percent+ difference in pricing($1000 pesos is $75.00). as srg perv has tried to stress here on numerous occasions, using dollars as opposed to pesos is simply stupid.i use the atm at banco santander when in tijuana there is no fee for bank of america card holders. in san ysidro the best rate is at the abc location on san ysidro bl., it is the "western union" location it is on the west side of the street and is painted green, is hard to miss it. they have the best conversions. remember the "compra" is the purchase rate for dollars and is the lowest of the posted rates.
I should have mentioned I hit about 8 clubs in ZN last night including HK. Adelita was the best though. Two quick questions:
is it customary to pay the girl up front ?
is there a separate charge for the hotel ?
the place I went last night I paid the house 40 and her 45 for 1hr. I paid up front but she was no starfish
Ahh, the old debate of paying up front. Myself I don't mind paying up front. If I was in there shoes I would ask for money up front myself so I understand when they say they require it. They're just looking out for themselves. This is after all a business for them and business transactions should be taken with caution especially in this business. But like others, I've had both good and bad experiences from paying up front. So it's really up to you if you want to take the risk. Plus I figure that arguing with the girl about not wanting to pay upfront sours her mood and could lead to an even lesser experience.
At AB and HK there is a separate charge for the hotel. Even though prostitution is legal, Brothels are illegal in Tijuana. So they separate the hotel and bar as two different establishments. Like we really don't know that they are owned by the same people. :rolleyes:
Where did you go that charged $40 for the room and $45 for the girl? AB and HK rooms go for $12 and the girls are usually $60 and over.
First. I did search last year's posts around Halloween and found nothing.
I'm wondering about the Halloween and the week before it. Wiil any of the girls at Adelitas, HK, etc. Dress up in costumes? Some of you may be thinking 'heck they already dress skimpy" but heck something about seeing a hot chick in a nurse outfit would get me going. A cop outfit would be good too.
Thanks in advance
What do you think about carrying a laminated copy of your passport (plus visa copy) on the street vs the original?I suppose that a copy would probably be good enough if the local police asked for your ID "on the street." Country John could say for sure.
At the port of entry, however, the copy won't do. Under the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative U.S. citizens are required to "present a valid passport book." I don't think a copy (even if it's laminated) qualifies as a passport "book." That makes sense because the officials prefer to use the machine readers when you cross and they can't do that with a copy.
Will the agents let you slide if you have only a copy? Perhaps. But why give them an excuse to give you the business? If you have a passport, carry it.
Bunky
I suppose that a copy would probably be good enough if the local police asked for your ID "on the street." Country John could say for sure.
At the port of entry, however, the copy won't do. Under the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative U.S. citizens are required to "present a valid passport book." I don't think a copy (even if it's laminated) qualifies as a passport "book." That makes sense because the officials prefer to use the machine readers when you cross and they can't do that with a copy.
Will the agents let you slide if you have only a copy? Perhaps. But why give them an excuse to give you the business? If you have a passport, carry it.
Bunky
This would be on the streets of TJ only. Obviously not at the border.
My original would be locked up in the hotel. I would be staying in TJ.
Precocious One
10-04-09, 15:55
I think you mean to say "citibank". I bank with chase and I can assure you that there is a steep fee. Do a banamex search on google.
1. Can someone remind me about the #992 bus fare(2.25) and must I have coins vs bills ? Is there a fare that allows me to transfer to the trolley ? It's been awhile since I was there...thanks.
2. What do you guys think about carrying a laminated copy of your passport(plus visa copy) on the street vs the original ? I would have the original at the hotel. It works in south america but I have no idea about the border.
Many Thanks
Yes, you are correct, Artisttyp. It is a Citibank/Banamex alliance. Also, if you are not already aware of this, both Banamex and Santander are two banks that will permit you to open an account with just a FMT visa and passport. IXE Banco and Bancomer will not(they require a FM3). You can then wire transfer funds directly from your US account.
PS
Don't worry about carrying around a copy of your passport. I have never been asked for it, or my FMT visa, in over two and a half years that I have lived in Mexico and the 50 or 60 times that I have visited TJ. In my experience, they only ask for a valid US identification.
And yes, never, ever carry around the original with you. Keep it locked up in the hotel safe.
You may also want to check out the Hotel Lucerna or Real Del Mar golf resort for accomodations.
www.realdelmar.com.mx/
www.tijuana.com/en/hoteles/lucerna/index.html
First. I did search last year's posts around Halloween and found nothing.
I'm wondering about the Halloween and the week before it. Wiil any of the girls at Adelitas, HK, etc. Dress up in costumes? Some of you may be thinking 'heck they already dress skimpy" but heck something about seeing a hot chick in a nurse outfit would get me going. A cop outfit would be good too.
Thanks in advanceI'd doubt it since Halloween isn't a Mexican holiday, but maybe the would do it to get some gringo doll hairs.
hello tororojo,
the atm's give the absolute best exchange rates as they go through a clearing house, generally three to five percent better than the small casa de cambios. if you have a bofa atm, you can use santander serfin with no charge and i believe that there is no charge for banamex if you use a chase card.
if you have dollars that need to be exchanged, ixe banco generally gives the best rates. also, if you are planning on doing some sports book gambling, the tranrep001ions are in done dollars and not pesos. if you bring pesos, you will lose a minimum of five percent on the swing.
and yes, you should use pesos as there is a 25 percent+ difference in pricing($1000 pesos is $75.00). as srg perv has tried to stress here on numerous occasions, using dollars as opposed to pesos is simply stupid.
thanks for the info. i'll be exchanging dollars. can you give me a location for ixe banco? i'm not finding it on google maps.
thanks
What do you guys think about carrying a laminated copy of your passport(plus visa copy) on the street vs the original ? I would have the original at the hotel. It works in south america but I have no idea about the border.
Many ThanksThat is actually the smartest thing to do.
Carrying a copy is smart because if you get mugged you are not out anything. If you have your original in you hotel that would satisfy the police. As far as the border? From what I am hearing, they are not real strict on the passport thing,as long as you have other ID. Yes the passport will help stop additional questions and faster but it nit a deal breaker.
1) Smart campers will carry a copy of ID and Passport on the streets of TJ.
2) Pesos save you money.
For small amouts of money( under 250 USD) it is more hassle than it is worth running around for top exchange rates. Get exchange at the border and start saving there with the Taxis. If you run around for better exchange rate , it will only make a difference of a dollar or so, you will waste the savings on traveling to the exchange.
On my extended stay I use the ATM at corner of Ave REV and 4th ,one block south of the Arch on the same block as Hotel Nelson. I do $300 USD at a time. I would grab a small amount at the border ($10 USD) if I did not have any pesos for the Taxi.
First. I did search last year's posts around Halloween and found nothing.
I'm wondering about the Halloween and the week before it. Wiil any of the girls at Adelitas, HK, etc. Dress up in costumes? Some of you may be thinking 'heck they already dress skimpy" but heck something about seeing a hot chick in a nurse outfit would get me going. A cop outfit would be good too.
Thanks in advance
I believe someone said they do dress up for Halloween. And one even dressed up as a cop.
Next time you order a passport just pay a little extra and get a passport card. I'm thinking that this would be a good idea for anybody. It will work great for the land borders, and if you are out of the country like Brazil or Thailand, you can leave your passport in the room safe and still have a government issued ID card with you to keep the authorities happy.
RG.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]All right, as promised I finally returned to Tijuana. After a very long dry spell (damn economic downfall) I was able to re-visit my favorite locale. Plus I finally popped my facial cherry! Read on:
Great post man. I'm serious. This was very informational. I don't know jack diddly about Tijuana and I'm trying to plan a few day visit when I get back from being overseas, and this has helped answer a lot of questions. Thanks a lot man and in Jan when I get home, I will repay with a few pics of my own.
Keep up the good reporting and awesome pics. There was 1 girl in the full black top that looked like Eva Mendes. Man I cannot wait.
Thanks brother
SF
[QUOTE=Efjayel]All right, as promised I finally returned to Tijuana. After a very long dry spell (damn economic downfall) I was able to re-visit my favorite locale. Plus I finally popped my facial cherry! Read on:
Great post man. I'm serious. This was very informational. I don't know jack diddly about Tijuana and I'm trying to plan a few day visit when I get back from being overseas, and this has helped answer a lot of questions. Thanks a lot man and in Jan when I get home, I will repay with a few pics of my own.
Keep up the good reporting and awesome pics. There was 1 girl in the full black top that looked like Eva Mendes. Man I cannot wait.
Thanks brother
SF
Damn, I remember that post. I wrote that a year ago. Sadly, the girl I "facialed" no longers works in the Zona. Real shame since she was one of my top favorite girls. And I have no idea where she went or what happened to her.
Good to see that some newbies are reading the old posts. That's highly recommended.
If you haven't already, you should also read Brockton O'tooles tj thread.
http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2995
Which happens to have a map of Tj that I made. :D
If you do have any questions just ask. We'll all gladly help.
Precocious One
10-05-09, 16:54
Thanks for the info. I'll be exchanging dollars. Can you give me a location for IXE Banco? I'm not finding it on Google maps.
Thanks
I sent you a PM with the relevant info.
SuperSteve
10-05-09, 19:16
On my extended stay I use the ATM at corner of Ave REV and 4th ,one block south of the Arch on the same block as Hotel Nelson. I do $300 USD at a time. I would grab a small amount at the border ($10 USD) if I did not have any pesos for the Taxi.I could be wrong, but I think the HSBC ATM is on Ave. Revo & Calle 2 (Benito Juarez), on the Ave. Revo side. On the corner of Ave. Revo & Calle 4 (Salvador Diaz Miron) is Carl's Jr. which is where I usually get my coffee in the morning, and a breakfast sandwich.
Calle 4 is past the Caliente Sportsbook (they also have an ATM that dispenses both $ and pesos) and is about three-four blocks south of the Hotel Nelson. The Hotel Nelson also has a decent breakfast.
There quite well could be an ATM on Ave. Revo & Calle 4, but I just don't remember seeing it. Maybe some of the vets could add to this and tell me if I am wrong.
Health & happiness to all.
SuperSteve
10-05-09, 19:27
My last post was in error, Carl's Jr. is on Calle 5, not 4, although I do still believe that the HSBC ATM is on Ave. Revo @ Calle 2.
Also with the loss of the Ceaser's Restaurant, there was a large Sanbourne's Restaurant near the corner of Ave. Revo & Calle 4 (across from VivaMex Spa) that is now empty.
Times are tough in TJ.
I could be wrong, but I think the HSBC ATM is on Ave. Revo & Calle 2 (Benito Juarez), on the Ave. Revo side. You are right ,it is a white building on the corner. Same side and block as Hotel Nelson.
Country John
10-06-09, 21:39
My last post was in error, Carl's Jr. is on Calle 5, not 4, although I do still believe that the HSBC ATM is on Ave. Revo @ Calle 2.
Also with the loss of the Ceaser's Restaurant, there was a large Sanbourne's Restaurant near the corner of Ave. Revo & Calle 4 (across from VivaMex Spa) that is now empty.
Times are tough in TJ.
Yeah, I was shocked to find Sanborns closed. It's not a good sign. Their prices were OK and it had a decent atmosphere etc. Sheesh. The times they are a-changin'.
Country John
DJ FourMoney
10-07-09, 09:43
I think I might be able to raise the cash to fund a short excursion to the border.
The Question -
Is a SW really worth it? I speak very little Spanish, will options increase the price?? Like opting for full nudity for example?
Opinions on that...
The Options -
Option 1
$28 RT Bus Ticket
$25 SW Girl (15-20 Mins)
$.99 Big Cheese Burger from Jack In The Box
$1.35 Large Stawberry Fanta (Please no Nazi jokes)
Total - $55.34
Option 2
$28 RT Ticket
$60 Early Week Special In-Call (One Hour)
Same Burger and Drink - $2.50ish
Total - $90.50 or so
Which you think presents a better value?
Maha Siddha
10-07-09, 10:17
Anyone been to Cheater Massage?
Whats the cost?
I saw the website and it seems somewhere I might want to visit.
I think I might be able to raise the cash to fund a short excursion to the border.
The Question -
Is a SW really worth it? I speak very little Spanish, will options increase the price?? Like opting for full nudity for example?
....
sin ropas (no clothes) often is extra with the standing street girls in the Alley (by Valentina, Mini Hotel, Eduardos, Karlas..). Sometimes even a bj (suckie with the fuckie) is extra so always negotiate everything that you'd want before going upstairs.
Unless you're a fairly well known regular, you're going to get upsold on each little thing. Clothing, BJ, positions, etc., etc. However, many of the chicas along Constitucion will do everything for a flat 200p or so. However, they may not be the 19 y/o cuties you might want. Depends on your tastes.
IMHO, all that way (and back) for a 15 minute quickie is waaaaay too much effort and expense. Just put on some porn and whack off! :D Seriously. Save up some more dough and go when you can spend a bit more time.
I don't get the Nazi reference and the Strawberry Fanta (which I happen to like, too).
Country John
10-07-09, 23:43
I think I might be able to raise the cash to fund a short excursion to the border.
The Question -
Is a SW really worth it? I speak very little Spanish, will options increase the price?? Like opting for full nudity for example?
Opinions on that...
The Options -
Option 1
$28 RT Bus Ticket
$25 SW Girl (15-20 Mins)
$.99 Big Cheese Burger from Jack In The Box
$1.35 Large Stawberry Fanta (Please no Nazi jokes)
Total - $55.34
Option 2
$28 RT Ticket
$60 Early Week Special In-Call (One Hour)
Same Burger and Drink - $2.50ish
Total - $90.50 or so
Which you think presents a better value?
Option 2.
The incall is more likely to be a GFE (depending on the agency). The street girl will most certainly not.
Country John
Option 2
$28 RT Ticket
$60 Early Week Special In-Call (One Hour)
Same Burger and Drink - $2.50ish
Total - $90.50 or so
Which you think presents a better value?Option 2 sounds like the best value for a quick dash YMMV
$100 total trip expense is nothing to biotch about. Nice plan DJ4M.
Long trip for just 15 min. with a chica.
$60 incall for one hour, damn good deal.
FYI you for got about the hotel for the SG.
Depeche Mode
10-08-09, 04:36
Hello all,
To fill the question about Halloween, yes they do celebrate. Me and my friend were there last year Oct 31. It was a blast! If I recall correctly, only Hong Kong Club celebrated with costumes and such.
Maha Siddha
10-10-09, 04:03
I went on to http://www.sexytijuana.com/
There are a lot of posting for this service called Patriot.
Has anyone used this service?
DJ FourMoney
10-10-09, 08:44
Unless you're a fairly well known regular, you're going to get upsold on each little thing. Clothing, BJ, positions, etc., etc. However, many of the chicas along Constitucion will do everything for a flat 200p or so. However, they may not be the 19 y/o cuties you might want. Depends on your tastes.
IMHO, all that way (and back) for a 15 minute quickie is waaaaay too much effort and expense. Just put on some porn and whack off! :D Seriously. Save up some more dough and go when you can spend a bit more time.
I don't get the Nazi reference and the Strawberry Fanta (which I happen to like, too).
I'm bored with porn and Rosie...
You never heard the story behind Fanta?
I love Fanta, I'm not mad at Coke but here's the story -
http://socyberty.com/history/did-the-nazis-really-invent-fanta/
They didn't invent it, it was just born during WWII that's all, so some people you know do 2+2=5
I like Option 2 myself the best. I believe I can swing it at the end of the month.
I'm bored with porn and Rosie...
You never heard the story behind Fanta?
I love Fanta, I'm not mad at Coke but here's the story -
http://socyberty.com/history/did-the-nazis-really-invent-fanta/
They didn't invent it, it was just born during WWII that's all, so some people you know do 2+2=5
I like Option 2 myself the best. I believe I can swing it at the end of the month.
Thanks. I had never heard that story before.
I like Fanta, but it does vary from country to country. I like the Fanta Orange in Thailand better than that in the US. It's not quite as sweet, or something. I found Fanta Limon is Spain, but I have never found it here. Even in the Mexican markets. Maybe somebody here knows if it can be obtained in the states.
Thanks. I had never heard that story before.
I like Fanta, but it does vary from country to country. I like the Fanta Orange in Thailand better than that in the US. It's not quite as sweet, or something. I found Fanta Limon is Spain, but I have never found it here. Even in the Mexican markets. Maybe somebody here knows if it can be obtained in the states.It has been retired in the USA but Mexico still has this flavor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_availability_of_Fanta
DJ FourMoney
10-11-09, 07:05
Thanks. I had never heard that story before.
I like Fanta, but it does vary from country to country. I like the Fanta Orange in Thailand better than that in the US. It's not quite as sweet, or something. I found Fanta Limon is Spain, but I have never found it here. Even in the Mexican markets. Maybe somebody here knows if it can be obtained in the states.
I was so used to seeing Fanta Orange to be "Orange", its more yellow in Germany. Same flavor its kinda of strange though. Every country has its own Coke bottler I'm sure you know that, so Coke products taste different everywhere you go.
Thailand you say? Hmmmm
I was so used to seeing Fanta Orange to be "Orange", its more yellow in Germany. Same flavor its kinda of strange though. Every country has its own Coke bottler I'm sure you know that, so Coke products taste different everywhere you go.
Thailand you say? Hmmmm
It's tough to describe, but it seems to tase less like a St. Joseph's Childrens aspirin tablet, and it has less carbonation. It's very refreshing, IMO, on a hot muggy day.
One downside is that sometimes the girls will kid you about being a ladyboy if you order one in a bar. :D
DJ FourMoney
10-12-09, 04:18
It's tough to describe, but it seems to tase less like a St. Joseph's Childrens aspirin tablet, and it has less carbonation. It's very refreshing, IMO, on a hot muggy day.
One downside is that sometimes the girls will kid you about being a ladyboy if you order one in a bar. :D
That is just what it taste like, funny you think that too!
LOL@Ladyboy
Guys, you are going to love this link. It's 7 minutes long.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtnCkE5RpK0&feature=related
Thanks.
I think it has been posted here before though.
Guys, you are going to love this link. It's 7 minutes long.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtnCkE5RpK0&feature=related
The Tall Man
10-13-09, 20:20
That is the first time I have seen that video.
LOL especially when you realize just how real those discussions with a TJ SW are.
Be Safe,
The Tall Man
I am here in the zona...
I already have alot to say but Id rather do one all inclusive report. I feel it would serve the forum better than several short posts. My "final thoughts" report will come at the end of my trip.
A few things Id like to say now are:
1. The weather is weird. You need a light hoodie or a jeans jacket but you will still sweat your ass off. Without one you will be cold...weird. Ive been drenched for two days already. Maybe its my body type or the hair on my ass...who knows.
2. I changed some money today but be aware most banks are giving 12.85mxn for each dollar. I did see many hole in the walls cambios quoting 13 but I dont feel comfortable doing business in places like that. So its either know a good hole in the wall cambio and do business more or less on the street or go to a bank. I wouldnt do the street thing in TJ but thats just me.
* Also worth noting is many establishments on revolucion are posting 13mxn for each dollar...so why go through the exchange process if you will get a better rate in *some places with dollars. It does come in handy though to have pesos. Im sure I will have more to say about it later.
* I did a DATY session with a nice indian SW today and paid 200 for the session and 50 for the room...with a 12.85 exchange rate it was $19.45. I assume if I used dollars I would have been qouted $20 plus $5 US...right? If so then yes pesos were very benefical.
Thank you very much to all of you that helped me organize this trip. I will write a full report at the end. Meantime if I can answer any questions from the ground please ask. Maybe I can be of service that way for now.
More tales from the crypt to come!
Derekj6926
10-15-09, 15:07
Went back down to Tijuana, 10/14/2009 and had a grand time stolling the streets, picked up a new pair of sunglasses and a watch at a really good price. Went into Amnesia again and had a two for one deal on Corona, sat down and two ladies came to me so I bought them each a drink and asked their price and they wanted $125. Each so I made an excuse to go to the restroom then went back up to the bar, there another even more gorgeous lady approached me but she wanted $125. Also, so I knew there was no deal there compared to Zona Norte. From there I went back down into the Zona Norte adoring the beautiful ladies every step of the way, went into Adelitas Bar and circled through looking at all of the beautiful sights, left AB and went up the street into Hong Kong Bar and there was a number of sweet ladies there, Madilynn was my favorite, if I have her name spelled correctly, her english was as good as my spanish so I am not sure. Madilynn is gorgeous with her beautiful long curly dark brown hair, nice brown skin, nice smile, and hard body, simply drop dead gorgeous, we had a couple of drinks, I just had to experience her completely so I asked her price to go upstairs, $60. And let me say she was beyond awesome between the sheets, a grand lover, nice little body that was so tight and smelled so nice. After my fabulous experience with Madilynn I knew that was going to be hard to eclipse so I decided that I needed to find a place to catch my breath as Madilynn had given me the ride of my life and the grandest of all my many sessions in Tijuana to date, I was left a bit disheveled in a good way LOL. I went for a walk and was about to grab a cab back to San Diego when I decided that I should for old times sake take a walk through the Chicago Club. As I walked up to CC I noticed a sexy lady talking to someone outside on the sidewalk, went in walked through, went to the back to the restroom, when I came out I ordered a beer and here comes the sexy lady from the side walk, she introduced herself as Luna. We had a drink at the bar and did a couple of dances on the dance floor, Luna was a fun sexy sensuous lady, I knew that Madilynn from HK had taken most of the life out of me but I knew I was recovering quite nicely so we went to a booth along the wall and had a couple of more drinks and discovered that Luna is a real seductress, amazingly sexy with her long curly hair and beautiful dancing eyes. Needless to say she seduced me and I asked her to dance for me, when she came back I asked her price, $60. So we went upstairs and let me say this lady knows how to do a man up right, I was having such a great day with my choices, maybe I am getting better at knowing who will give me a great time. After our session I did something I have never done before, we were so hot from the session that we went back downstairs and had another cold drink before I left, that somewhat tells how great our chemistry was together. I told here that I wanted to get back across the border before dark, when I went outside it was dusk so I went to the Taco Cart and had a few of the best Tacos in the world to nourish my body, then went for a short walk adoring some ladies, ran into my regular Steet Walker Estrella and wanted to go with her but was out of gas from the two sexy ladies I had chosen so I declined and jumped into a cab and came back across the border. What a great day, I'll see you in the Zona Norte tomorrow afternoon, this will be my last day in SD for a while. Must go back home where if a man wants intimacy with a beautiful woman he must pay at least $200. A pop for poor to mediocre service or go into the bathroom alone LOL.
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Went into Amnesia again and had a two for one deal on Corona, sat down and two ladies came to me so I bought them each a drink and asked their price and they wanted $125. Each so I made an excuse to go to the restroom then went back up to the bar, there another even more gorgeous lady approached me but she wanted $125. Also, so I knew there was no deal there compared to Zona Norte.Instead of just running away you should make it a point to let them know about their outrages prices. They stick with those prices because others are either too stupid to complain or are willing to pay. You should have said, "Why should I pay you that much when I can go to the Zona norte and get two girls for that price?" I'd like to see how their response.
Instead of just running away you should make it a point to let them know about their outrages prices. They stick with those prices because others are either too stupid to complain or are willing to pay. You should have said, "Why should I pay you that much when I can go to the Zona norte and get two girls for that price?" I'd like to see how their response.
Last night a SW asked me for $40 to do DATY and whack off. I simply told her "last night I paid 200mxn plus 50 for the room". She immediately agreed to said price of $200mxn. They will test you.
I have sympathy though! This is my 6th time here and I never really understood the scene until this time around. I have been staying in TJ which makes all the difference in the world. You will never "get it" by staying in san diego. Obviously I am still learning but things are much clearer.
There are several paths you can choose....ALL lead to panocha (pussy).
Derekj6926
10-16-09, 06:38
Went to Tijuana again today my last day for a few months and had the time of my life. What a great place to be able to visit and enjoy. Started walking along the street looking for a new wallet, found what I wanted and decided it was time to get some poon tang! Started down into the Zona Norte and enjoyed every step of the way with all the ladies looking so nice. It seems to me that the Street ladies are getting better and better looking on the street. Went by a gorgeous one named Brenda and had a hard time to walk by. I made it all the way to Adelitas Bar and walked through resisting all the sexy ladies, left and walked up the street to Hong Kong Bar and saw the lady I wanted to do, enjoyed the lesbian whip cream show for a while and went back for my sweetheart I found, she was so petite and sweet, she did me up good and left me out of breath with sweat dripping off me. Left the bar, went out into the shade with the breeze cooling me off for a while. Decided to go for a walk around Zona Norte again, was adoring the ladies and ran into Brenda again. Brenda did not know what to make of me when I adored her again and kept walking, little did she know I was going to get two cold Cokes to take with us to her room. When we got in the room this girl was even more gorgeous than I realized and ever so eager to please me. I asked her why she did not work at AB or HK, she said there were too many women to compete with there. She rocked my world and did me up like I could not have imagined from a street girl, she was one of the most beautiful women I have ever been with. Went for another walk and just enjoyed the women stopped into a few bars and bought a few ladies some drinks, ended up in HK again with this petite gorgeous Black Chica dancing up on the bar spinning on the ring and doing acrobatics. She was fabulous defined, I was wishing I had one more load in me, I gave her about 25 $1 bills everywhere she would let me, she bent down and gave me a huge wet kiss on the lips and I was melting so I knew I needed to get out of town while I could because I knew if I went upstairs with her I would not be going back to SD tonight I miss her still, have to catch a plane early tomorrow so I got a cab and started for the border. For those of you out there who like me live a long distance from Tijuana know it is a bit depressing going back to the USA, a world where one does not have access to this sweet place on the earth called Tijuana. Missing all of you in Tijuana very much right now, cannot wait untill I can return again!
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Precocious One
10-16-09, 12:57
They would not be towed for a moving violation, it's illegal and the cop could lose his job if you reported it.
You CAN be towed if you are stopped and your paperwork is not in order. If you are a Mexican national driving a car with US plates and YOU do not have a US issued license, the car goes. Same is true if you have Mexican plates and your paperwork is not in order.
You can be towed for double parking, obstructing traffic etc. You can also be towed for being an asshole.
The car dealers in Mexico have kicked up quite a fuss about people bringing cars to Mexico from the USA and not importing or registering them. So if you are Mexican without a US issued license, best to leave the California plates off the vehicle.
The city has to find ways to pay off the bonds issued for all the new street work. There's a lot of money in stupidity and fortunately for the City, there are LOTS of stupid people out there.
That's why you see so many junkers out there. Cheaper to replace the car than pay to get it out of the impound yard, complete with fines, towing and storage charges.
Country John
You are required to have Mexican auto insurance while in Mexico. Also, your US tags and registration must be current. A Mexican vehicle permit is not needed in Tijuana or any other town less than 20 miles from the border.
A simple traffic infraction can usually be paid off for roughly 100 to 200 pesos. If the officer wants more, just tell him to take you to see the judge. They never will.
Si
TJ hotel stay makes the cultural learning process faster and cheaper panocha depending where one stays.
Other factors to consider like good cheap food and general entertainment.
You will never "get it" by staying in san diego. Obviously I am still learning but things are much clearer.
There are several paths you can choose....ALL lead to panocha (pussy).
Precocious One
10-18-09, 03:09
The Mexican Vehicle permit is not required anywhere in Baja California.
It is only required after about 20 miles from the border in mainland Mexico.
www.puertonuevolobster.com/vehicle-permits.htm
I have been to TJ about 40 times in the last 4-5 years. I drove one time and I can't see why you would ever do that. The cost is hardly worth it IMHO. You will probably pay to park in TJ (not street) so that is mostly a wash.
The downside are:
1) Getting lost is easy
2) If you get in a wreck you are hosed
3) The cops can target you and your ca. or other US plates
4) If you drink this is another problem
5) The lines at the border can be 2-3h for driving, usually 10-30m for walking
6) If you are there secret getting any car problems can be really bad. I have been on business trips so I am OK leaving my car in the US but not taking it to TJ.
The cost to cab it are $8 to park and $10 for 2 cab rides.
I did drive one time and I was not a fun experience. The dark roads, long lines, thinking about what could happen, and I did get lost. I also waited 2h to cross @ 2 am.
Cabs are safe, quick, and fairly cheap. If you stay at the border then your parking cost is covered by the hotel.
My advice is don't even think about driving. I guess if you really need to save $$ then walking in the daytime could save you $5 and cab back. Personally I like to cab to the Zona (or el premier hotel if with an escort) and then hang out 2-10h and then cab back. Play it safe. I have had no problems in TJ other than a one time $40 ripoff by the cops at the linea sentra during a search.
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TJ Sex Worker Index - $75 for LTR (3 SW) the main reason for the long trip and not the LE.
The Tall Man
10-18-09, 22:35
A few weeks back, on a Sunday afternoon, I decided to drive into TJ and down to Rosarito for the day. My car is a black Land Rover with tinted windows, etc. etc. and I did not have any problems.
I did purchase the Mexican auto insurance to cover loss up to about $30k. It cost me about $32.00 for the 24-hour period.
Yes the lines returning even at 11 PM that night took no less then 2.5 hours.
All in all, just not worth all the effort and risk IMHO.
Be Safe all,
The Tall Man
SuperSteve
10-19-09, 01:22
I just got back from a quick Saturday night trip to TJ.
Some quick observations:
More street ladies out than two weeks ago. Probably just the eb & flow of the street. They seemed more "grabby" than usual.
Adelita's seemed slow until about 11:00 PM. Some very good looking ladies as usual, although hottie central seemed dead. I had a great session with a lady, GFE, DFK, BBBJ, with CIM option, multiple positions, we got the dreaded knock, and spent probably another fifteen minutes in la cama. Sorry I don't remember her name, if I did it might mean I care (LOL). As someone else said GFE is not common, especially in Adelita's and your first few times, although I don't ever remember seeing her before, so you never know. Walked out at about 6 AM and back to the hotel on Ave. Revo for a couple of hours of sleep.
Chicago Club was the busiest that I have seen it recently. Several VGL ladies. I sessioned with a VGL Latina type with a petite hard body, with fake hooters. Although it was great seeing her hard body, it was just s*x, and would not repeat. Probably about 50 ladies working. It is nice to see it hopping again, and always can find a place to sit. It is also nice that they play the music at a level tht you can hold a conversation. For the most part the ladies at CC are less agressive than AB or HK. I also saw what looked like an Asian lady sitting at the bar.
Las Chavelas was packed. There were more good looking women than I had seen in there. Being the only Gringo in the place, I just watched. If you can speak Spanish, this seems like a good club to find the diamond in the rough. The only time that I sessioned there it was a good experience. I don't think that she had been with many Gringos. BBBj withoug asking.
I didn't make in into HK.
On the way back to la linea I saw to moto policia had a car with California plates pulled over prior to getting to the line. IMO, I would not drive if just going to TJ only. Parking cost me $10.00, and cabs $10.00. For me, I cannot imagine driving across to save $20.00. Also at 9:00 AM it took about 10 minutes to get through. The lines for autos was backed up already.
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Super Gato
10-19-09, 03:15
The last half dozen times or so I've been in the Zona motorcycle cops in front of Adelita and Hong Kong were writing tickets like crazy to cars with MX and CA plates. I'd seem some cars get loaded onto tow trucks as well. Now more than ever, it just doesn't make sense to drive into the zona.
I believe that it is a Mexican law that foreigners are required to carry liability coverage. If I am not mistaken, it is actually a crime if you do not. Country John can probably clarify this.
You are incorrect. No such law exists. If however you are involved in an accident and you do not have Mexican insurance you risk being taken into custody until fault is determined.
You are required to have Mexican auto insurance while in Mexico.
This is incorrect. As I stated in the following post insurance is not mandatory. However if you are involved in an accident and you don't have mexican insurance you can be taken into custody until fault is determined.
Precocious One
10-19-09, 15:04
This is incorrect. As I stated in the following post insurance is not mandatory. However if you are involved in an accident and you don't have mexican insurance you can be taken into custody until fault is determined.
Like I said, Country John could probably elaborate more on this topic as the applicable law(Civil or Criminal) is somewhat vague depending on who you talk to. I would strongly recommend to anyone driving here to carry Mexican insurance, regardless of what statute the law actually falls under.
www.mexinsure.com/mexican_auto_insurance.php
www.si-mexico.com/articles/mexico_car_insurance.htm
What I believe that you are referring to is that Mexican Nationals are not required by law to carry Mexican auto insurance.
www.insurereinsure.com/BlogHome.aspx?entry=1520
For the record, I have never been asked by the Federales or the Policia for proof of insurance in the two and a half years that I have lived here. My current(Qualitas) one-year, full-coverage policy with 100k limits runs me $270.00 for a $5000 vehicle.
Derekj6926
10-20-09, 06:02
I am appreciating all the reports and am planing my next trip to TJ the first weekend of December and I am wondering what Hotel would be most recommended inside the Zona Norte and if there is a recommendation as to what is the best way to find a reasonably priced sweet Chica to spend an extended period of time with me at a reasonable price?
I am appreciating all the reports and am planing my next trip to TJ the first weekend of December and I am wondering what Hotel would be most recommended inside the Zona Norte and if there is a recommendation as to what is the best way to find a reasonably priced sweet Chica to spend an extended period of time with me at a reasonable price?
I don't recommend staying in the zona. You really dont want to be a familar face in that area...just my 2 cents. It is better to dip in and out so nobody associates you with the wrong crowd.
Also keep in mind that staying out of the zona would only be a difference of a few blocks.
I woke up to quite an unpleasant surprise today regarding the exchange rate. Most places in and around revolucion are dishing out 12.70 12.71 to the dollar. They are selling at 12.85 which was yesterday's buy rate!
As the day went on I had some interesting experiences. The japanese restauraunt I ate at tonight gave me 13mxn for the dollar. Obviously I paid in dollars. On the way to the restaurant passing blvd de los fundadores I saw a cambio offering 12.81 on the same side of the street as a pharmacy called roma.
I feel better about the hole in the wall cambios these days. Just shop around before you let go of your dollars. By all means carry both if you can.
I look forward to writing my final report in a few days...lots to tell.
Artisttyp
I am appreciating all the reports and am planing my next trip to Tijuana the first weekend of December and I am wondering what Hotel would be most recommended inside the Zona Norte and if there is a recommendation as to what is the best way to find a reasonably priced sweet Chica to spend an extended period of time with me at a reasonable price? What is your price range for extended stay girls and for hotel. I seriously do not recommend staying in the zona itself (safety and peace and quiet). Name your price range for hotels and we can give you better options. Is your stay extended or just one night? How long are you talking for extended stay with the chica? TLN? An hour?
Derekj6926
10-21-09, 10:57
What is your price range for extended stay girls and for hotel. I seriously do not recommend staying in the zona itself (safety and peace and quiet). Name your price range for hotels and we can give you better options. Is your stay extended or just one night? How long are you talking for extended stay with the chica? TLN? An hour?I am looking for an inexpensive Hotel for just three nights in the Zona Norte near Adelita's and the Hong Kong Bar, are there any of them safe and sanitary? I have thought about Hotel Nelson, Hotel St Francis, Hotel Cascadas would be my favorite location, I am not concerned about noise as I plan to be part of the action I just want to have a safe secure room that is sanitary, I know there are a couple right down in the Zona Norte but want to be sure it is safe and sanitary. I have stayed at the Hotel Santiago a few times before and it was decent but I want a place that my Chica can just come to my room without walking very far, I am looking for something in the price range of $20 to $40 per night for the room that is suitable to take a delicious Chica to so she can spend the afternoon with me and have dinner together etc., then go out with me in the evening, and then spend the night in the $200 range?
Country John
10-21-09, 21:31
Like I said, Country John could probably elaborate more on this topic as the applicable law(Civil or Criminal) is somewhat vague depending on who you talk to. I would strongly recommend to anyone driving here to carry Mexican insurance, regardless of what statute the law actually falls under.
www.mexinsure.com/mexican_auto_insurance.php
www.si-mexico.com/articles/mexico_car_insurance.htm
What I believe that you are referring to is that Mexican Nationals are not required by law to carry Mexican auto insurance.
www.insurereinsure.com/BlogHome.aspx?entry=1520
For the record, I have never been asked by the Federales or the Policia for proof of insurance in the two and a half years that I have lived here. My current(Qualitas) one-year, full-coverage policy with 100k limits runs me $270.00 for a $5000 vehicle.
You will not be cited for "no insurance" in Mexico. If you are stopped for a traffic violation you would be asked for insurance only if the cop wants to put the arm on you because even though you have AAA, it is worthless in Mexico. Mexican nationals are not "required" to have insurance unless their is a loan out on the vehicle by a bank etc. When it's your vehicle free and clear, insurance is optional.
Most cards are pre 1999 and their value doesn't dictate a policy of insurance for replacement of the vehicle, but that's only half the story.
Only insurance issued by a Mexican insurance company is accepted in Mexico. The reason? Once you go back State-side you are "untouchable" and AAA can tell the Mexican side to go and screw their hat. Besides, the damaged party in Mexico would have to live with the loss. Not acceptable to Mexican authorities.
If you have an accident in Mexico, doesn't matter where, you do NOT move your vehicle even if it is obstructing traffic. An accident investigator is sent to the scene to do an assessment and make a determination as to fault, his word is usually final unless you have a mexican insurance agent who will act on your behalf. If YOU are at fault, and you have NO insurance, then you are handed a copy of the estimate of damages by the assessor. Copy to the cops, copy to the other party.
You are required to pay up or make other "satisfactory arrangements" with the other party before you are "released" by the cops. If you do not settle up, things get shitty very quickly. Including jail time until you make good, so keep mama's number close by. If you settle up with the other party then it's all good. You get to go home tonight. Let's say the damage estimate to fix a 1962 VW Beetle comes out to about $500.00. You could offer $300 in cash and if the other party accepts, they sign off and you're good to go. That is, so long as there are no other damages (light pole, other public or private property damage). If there ARE other damages, you could be assessed accordingly.
If you INJURE someone, then you are in DEEP shit if there is no insurance. Injury cases are referred to the District Attorney for possible prosecution and you get to sit in jail until your bail is set. Your insurance will cover your bail if you have a policy, if not then you're going to have to call mama. You also have to call an attorney because there is no such thing as "pro per" here. You can't represent yourself. There are also no public defenders. You are truly on your own.
Bails for this sort of thing run depending on the extent of the injury or injuries. If you were drinking, then you can forget bail. On average, expect to pay about $100,000.00 in CASH (and in Pesos; the court does not accept any other form of currency). It will take several days to get a bail asessment and then several days after that to process you out of jail. You could be there for about 14 days, most likely more than that.
Having insurance in Mexico is having financial security at a time when you could be held financially responsible for an incident that doesn't neccessarily have to be your fault. Remember: it's a fucking free-for-all on the streets of Tijuana. Left hand "U-turns" from the far right lane against a Red light into on-coming traffic in front of the cops is a common occurance here. If you can drive in TJ, you can drive almost anywhere else in the world (except Boston).
The American Consulate usually checks on Americans locked up at La Mesa Prison every morning and sends a rep to communicate. They can help with contacting other family members, etc.
Buying Mexican insurance is a smart thing to do, and costs less than 20 minutes with a street girl. It's nothing like a bareback blowjob, but when you are looking at the rear end of your car dripping over the middle of an intersection in TJ because some shit-for-brains just rear ended you, you'll probably feel just as lucky because you popped for the $20. to buy the policy.
My insurance (full coverage, 300k limit, medical rental car, liability, legal, bail etc.) runs about $400 a year, about $1.2328767 per day.
Country John
10-21-09, 21:37
I am looking for an inexpensive Hotel for just three nights in the Zona Norte near Adelita's and the Hong Kong Bar, are there any of them safe and sanitary? I have thought about Hotel Nelson, Hotel St Francis, Hotel Cascadas would be my favorite location, I am not concerned about noise as I plan to be part of the action I just want to have a safe secure room that is sanitary, I know there are a couple right down in the Zona Norte but want to be sure it is safe and sanitary. I have stayed at the Hotel Santiago a few times before and it was decent but I want a place that my Chica can just come to my room without walking very far, I am looking for something in the price range of $20 to $40 per night for the room that is suitable to take a delicious Chica to so she can spend the afternoon with me and have dinner together etc., then go out with me in the evening, and then spend the night in the $200 range?
Sanitary is subjective. Everyone has their own threshold of tolerable filth. You are running the risk of catching anything anywhere of course and the Zona is no exception. No matter where you stay, bring slippers and DO NOT walk barefoot in the rooms.
Nelson is a decent choice. Stay there. You'll be fine.
Gents-
I have not had the pleasure of a trip into Tijuana. Up till now, I have found myself crossing further East, However fortune has me traveling to the El Centro area 5-7 Nov. And I was wondering if the additional 30 min airtime to San Diego would be worthwhile vs a trip to Mexicali? Brown Field seems to be about at close as I can get without flying to Tijuana itself.
So a few questions for the "locals." How close is Brown Field to "La Linea? " What local transportation is available? Is it best to return "state-side" or spend the night South?
TIA
Derekj6926
10-21-09, 23:17
Sanitary is subjective. Everyone has their own threshold of tolerable filth. You are running the risk of catching anything anywhere of course and the Zona is no exception. No matter where you stay, bring slippers and DO NOT walk barefoot in the rooms.
Nelson is a decent choice. Stay there. You'll be fine.Can you elaborate on the Hotel Cascadas and why you are not recommending the Hotel Cascadas, that would be the location of my choice.
I have thought about Hotel Nelson, Hotel St Francis, Hotel Cascadas would be my favorite location, I am not concerned about noise as I plan to be part of the action I just want to have a safe secure room that is sanitary, I know there are a couple right down in the Zona Norte but want to be sure it is safe and sanitary. I have stayed at the Hotel Santiago a few times before and it was decent but I want a place that my Chica can just come to my room without walking very far,
Hotel Hacienda de Santiago is as close to most of the action as either Hotel Nelson or Hotel St Francis.
In the morning the price can be high and adjusted in the afternoon. Like you said few places offer more.
I am sure you are finding TJ lot cheaper than DR.
I woke up to quite an unpleasant surprise today regarding the exchange rate. Most places in and around revolucion are dishing out 12.70 12.71 to the dollar. They are selling at 12.85 which was yesterday's buy rate!
As the day went on I had some interesting experiences. The japanese restauraunt I ate at tonight gave me 13mxn for the dollar. Obviously I paid in dollars. On the way to the restaurant passing blvd de los fundadores I saw a cambio offering 12.81 on the same side of the street as a pharmacy called roma.
I feel better about the hole in the wall cambios these days. Just shop around before you let go of your dollars. By all means carry both if you can.
I look forward to writing my final report in a few days...lots to tell.
Artisttyp
Go to la Villa de Zaragoza, its short walk, I have gone for yrs and no prob., they charge about 10. For extra person though.
I like Hotel Nelson and have done tln there . Get a top floor room for a view (north or East). I have had great luck with the SG for evening fun. Just let them get to know/used to you for a day or so before you ask. Taxi late at night as it is only a block away. 3 nights you will want to walk around anyways so you will be going in and out of the zona. At the end of the block from HN there is a good 24/7 ATM machine so you can get your money and stash some back at your room without walking all over (half a block).
What I like most about HN you are away from the bad elements and not bumping into them in the halls like some of the other "zona" hotels.
Gents-
How close is Brown Field to "La Linea? " What local transportation is available? Is it best to return "state-side" or spend the night South?
TIAYou are only 5 miles from the border entry point. Take a cab. Stay the night in TJ as there are many nice hotels for the same or less price as you would pay north of the border.
The poster was asking for hotels next to Adelitas or Chicago. Can't remember the actual name of the place. I don't stay the nights in TJ but I thought if I did it would be a good option. It's $35 a night I believe if you're going to take multiple chicks from Adelitas seems like a good deal.
Any reason no one recommended the hotel next to Adelitas? Is there something I don't know about those 3rd floor rooms?
You are only 5 miles from the border entry point. Take a cab. Stay the night in TJ as there are many nice hotels for the same or less price as you would pay north of the border.Thanks to you and Peter Pan for the info.
Peter Pan- FYI San Diego Intl. might make the trip easier on the ground but much more hassle to fly into. I hate "mixing it up" with the big sardine cans. Also parking is $20.00/day more and fuel $1.58/gal more than at Brown Field.
The Tall Man
10-22-09, 22:47
I spent the afternoon and evening of October 13th in TJ. I needed some cash so went to Scotiabank a few blocks from the Zona. Got 2,000 pesos from my debit checking account (yes Scotiabank put in their transaction commision fee of $8.70).
So as I was walking back to the Zona I stopped in one of those exchange offices on Ave. Constitution and for the exactly 2,000 pesos I recieved exactly $153.96 in the transaction.
Fast forward a few days and I get my California Union Bank record and see that my bank converted the withdrawl to exactly $152.04.
So I withdrew, what cost me $152.04 and recieved $153.96 or a PROFIT of $1.92!
Which profit, along with another couple of hundred dollars, was spent in an evening of music, women and drinks.
The Tall Man
SuperSteve
10-23-09, 01:12
It is fairly simple to get from the SD Airport to the border.
A bus will take you to Amtrak Station, and you get off. Buy your ticket from one of the automated dispensers ($2.50/$1.25 seniors each way) and get on the "Blue Line" to San Ysidro, it should be going right from the station as you look at the station from the automated ticket machines. If you take the "Orange Line" you will end up at the stadium. As was said most of the trolley cars are red, but there is no actual red line. It is approximately 45 minutes from the San Diego Amtrak station to La Linea. The trolley schedule can be found by googling Sand Diego Trolley.
Once at the border follow most of the people walking up the ramps to the left side of where people are coming out of immigration and back into the USA Switch backs on both up and down sides. Once down from the ramps turn to the right, and you are close to the border. Go through two turn styles and continue heading straight. There will be many yellow cab drivers to take you to Adelitas for $5.00. I have never had one try to take me elsewhere, but if they ask, just tell them no. They will let you out right in front.
I believe that the hotel next to Adelita's is the Hotel Coahuila. I have never stayed there but RTFF and there are several reports about it. From what I remember it is $ 35.00 for the night, but if you take more than one lady during your stay, there may be an additional charge for each time after the first. Maybe someone else with more knowledge will post about it.
The Nelson seems like a good choice. The easiest way to get there walking from the Zona is Articulo 123. I would not suggest that a newbie do this a night, and watch your back during the day. You should be able to get a cab for $ 3.00 or less, since it is only a few blocks. The yellow cabs out in front of Adelita's have never strayed off of their $5.00 to go anywhere when I inquired. Turn right out of Adelita's and walk to the corner and there will be a cab a second.
As the Sgt. Said, turn right out of the Nelson and the HSBC ATM (Ave. Revo & just before Calle Two) is just before the corner, on the right, on Ave. Revo. There is another ATM about two block up in the Caliente Sportsbook, also on the right between Calle 3 & 4, if you want to wager on some games also. I don't know about the hours, since it would not be available when the casino is closed.
Keep your wits about you, even when walking. Turn around every so often to see who is behind you. The rear naked choke seems to be used most. If you know where you are and who is around, it decreases chances of an encounter. Especially for newbies, take a cab at night to and from the Zona.
Health & happiness to all.
Yes it is true. My sperm count will drop considerably from this point forward. However I have utilized my leche to the fullest extent in these past few years. So all is good.
I am getting ready to head back to chula vista for two days before my return to NYC. I would first like to thank everybody on this forum. You guys do a good job of dishing out information and I hope that my contributions assist others the same way.
I dedicate this post to a new friend "bobisee" and to country jhon. You guys have provided me and the forum with valuable information...thank you!
Intro:
My original plan was to spend a few days in TJ then head over to cuidad juarez and maybe mexicali. However due to mis information on the juarez thread I found out that TJ to Juarez is a 24+ hour trip by bus. Unfortunately juarez will have to be another trip. Not all was lost though. I found my stay in TJ of almost 2 weeks to be very fullfiling. Ive been pretty busy until now.
Why:
Why TJ you ask ? I am an avid photographer and I wanted to utilize a free domestic ticket I had to do a photo essay of the border towns with TJ and Juarez being the most important. I have been here several times before in my early intl mongering days but I never stayed in TJ. This time I wanted to stay in mexico and feel what it is like to live here. I sort of knew the mongering was nowhere near what I have gotten used to in south america but I wanted to see what all that experience would get me here. The answer is NOT MUCH but I have gotten a feel for what it takes to score good here. However I would need to be here alot longer to really "get it".
Begin :
I flew to san diego from NYC. The #992 bus at the airport to trolley station america plaza went very smooth. Buy a day pass for $5 bills or coins and then transfer to the san isidro trolley...very easy. Give yourself a little longer to get back to the airport if you are in chula vista. Sometimes you just miss a trolley and you need to wait awhile until the next one...just like nyc.
I stayed at the motel 6 on e street. It is located very close to the trolley as well as the best western. You wont have to drag your luggage too far if you stay in either place. The single rooms were very small but comfortable for $48 with tax inlcluded. They have their own security that look like real sheriffs. They were a little agressive in following me when I arrived but I can appreciate the security non the less.
Next day I moved onto la villa de zaragoza in TJ where I have been ever since. I think this is an excellent recommendation from the forum for many reasons:
Nice staff
Quiet
Ice Machine
Big Rooms
Various ammenities surrounding the hotel (laundry,supermarket,off the beaten path restaurants,walking distance to zona rio)
I was upgraded to a delux room for the same price of a single. My daily rate was 550 pesos which included tax. Upon checking in the assured me a guest was ok as long as they register at the desk. The guest fee was waived for me due to my lengthy stay.
I had hot water and clean towels every day.
My few complaints about the hotel start with the carpets. They are absolutely disgusting. I always bring flip flops and eventually I got over it but it was very ugly to look at. They do try to make up for it by folding towels into swan shapes and giving you shampoos and other knick knacks. I guess they dont make enough to renovate too often.
My door didn´t have a rubber sealer on it and at night I felt rather annoying draft. The heater/AC worked for me for the most part but it does its own thing by shutting off when it gets too hot etc. According to my calculations it was off a few times and I woke up to a breeze at around 5 am.
I like the fact that it is on the opposite end of revolucion away from the action. Also it gave me a good opportunity to walk alot and stay fit from all the food I have been eating.
Yes I would stay here again.
Food:
I was worried about eating in TJ but I found the food to be very appetizing.
My favorites are :
Tacos,Menudos Tupidos located a block from the zaragoza
calle 8 no 1941 entre madero y revolucion.
This was the best place for typical mexican food at very reasonable prices. The place is very clean and the staff is very friendly. They also serve pancakes for breakfast if that is your thing. I highly recommend this place for lunch.
Tai-Ki-Si Japenese Restaurant
Blvd fundadores esquina con aqua caliente
This is a very moderately priced trendy japanese restaurant. They give you a ton of free goodies...free soup free ice tea and free desert with your meal. They even asked me If I wanted a free refill on my free ice tea! The food is decent and comparable to any japanese food i have eaten in south america. they dont have all the ingredients for suchi here but they do have some interesting dishes and rolls. It is a nice change from mexican food.
Vittorios/Italian food
Av. Revolucion y calle novena
Ok italian food but better pizza from what I saw and ate but still a nice change from typical mexican food....very nice enviornment and affordable prices.
Shopping:
TJ isnt what it was 6 years ago. Although there are still a number of stores open I found the quality of goods to be diminished. That isnt to say that you cant find good leather items but you need to know where to go.
I found two very high quality leather shops.
1. In plaza zapato across from plaza rio you will see a store in the very bottom of the mall towards the back. La Herradura De Oro is what it is called. It mainly caters to horse rider and mexican cowboys (charros) but you can find many nice belts and buckles here as well as a few other knick knacks.
Talabarteria Atoyac/ Leather factory/special orders
These guys are located at calle 3a no.2035 tel 685-0168
These guys made me a killer belt. I chose one that didnt have a hidden zipper and they put it on for me in one day. They have by far the best quality leather accessories I have seen in TJ. I went into almost all the leather stores and these two stuck out to me. I bought three belts at atoyac ...two for $25 each and one very special belt with add ons for $40...Do visit if you are looking for leather.
Tattoos:
I have a few myself but I was curious about the chicano art. El beto at tat 2 Mex calle6TA y revolucion had the best artist. He has some photos of himself taken with cat from miami ink and hes been in a few expos etc. If i was to get tattooed in TJ I would probably go with him. Ask to see his book. Unfortunately he cannot obtain a visa for the USA or else he would be making good money there.
Tel 044 664 311 9542 . He soeaks a little english.
Portraits:
If you have a photo that you want turned into a painting visit *luciano at rotulos 1770-2 avenida madero 687-43-99. This guy is an excellent artist that just doesn,t have any connections in the art world. He does art for pleasure like a true artist. Although he really should be exhibiting his work.
Chicas:
I sort of knew what to expect before coming here but with the economic crisis I thought things would be a little different. Maybe just a little but not much.
The Breakdown:
SWs - I only sessioned with sws due to the pricing structure here in TJ. I have gotten spoiled by my time in south america so paying $70 for a 30 minute question is out of the question to me. In a few weeks I will go someplace esle so to me it would be a waste of money.
I would have spent $70 for a session on my birthday but you really dont know what type of service you will get. I dont risk $70 like that nor did I want a negative vibe to interfer with my trip. I passed on the club girls.
The paraditas outside the clubs are very attractive and very affordable at about 200mxn a session plus 50/60mxn for the room. Unfortunately the name paraditas coincides with their service. The word parar means to stop or parado to be standing up...hence the term paraditas...someone who stands against the wall and tells you to STOP when you describe what services you enjoy. What I mean is only 10 to 20 % of them will let you do DATY or lick their ass (even less). If all you want to do is stick it in with a rubber for 15 minutes then go ahead. I at least need to taste some pussy to get off. I did manage to do that a few times as well as one ass but for the most part they were uneventful sessions with dead fishes. I mainly searched *off of coahuilla for independents.
The biggest success I had was last night hanging out with bobisee. He turned me onto a hotel right next door to the chicago club. You will see girls hanging out in front in the hallway entrance to the hotel. Most are low end or meth heads but the service I got last night was by far the best. This girl gave me a serious BBBJ that only a pro could give. $20 for her and $5 for the room with a 20mxn tip. I will go back to that area this evening.
From my experiences the druggies are the way to go as far as Sws. You will see many lookers but they are full of shit. There will always be a line of hard up gringos in TJ getting off by just putting their condom wrapped dick into pussy for $20. A sucker will be born every minute. Your business means nothing more or less. Their life doesnt depend on it. the border is just too close.
Stick with the meth heads for special services and be ready to take a fe steps down in the looks department. I will go to no one but the druggies at this point. I sort of get off tossing a tramp anyway.
* Dont let them do drugs in the room ! I had to get very firm with one of them that wanted to light up in the room...are you out of your fucking mind i told her.
I have a stopwatch and sometimes I paid for 30 minutes hotel time and got a knock at 23 minutes into the session. I was more or less ready at that point but just be aware.
As goofy as it sounds carrying a cheap stopwatch is not a bad idea. not once has a chica argued against it.
***Always pay after...no exceptions. I just told her the money will be on the table for her for when she completes the deal. Dont settle for anything less. A good **** will have no problem with this.
The Clubs:
Every club but hong kong was lame. I walked into all the adelitas etc. I found them to be dark dull and void of any ambiance. I couldnt enjoy a beer in any of them.
Hong kong club is an excellent bar and is quite swanky for TJ. Always action at HK and the girls are very pretty..decent music $3 beers and $1 touching dances. If you can bring a stack of singles. You will want them.
Las Pulgas :
I went three times. The first time I pulled a very average chica but at the end of our evening she wanted cab fare. This is without sex and still hanging out in the club. I absolutely refused and steeped on. I saw they were trying the same with a mexican guy.
In general the music sucks here...just mexicabn cumbia which is god awful. I heard maybe one salsa song and one meregue. The rest were ranchera cowboy songs. It was mainly a couples only place on the various nights I went. Single mexican women didnt seem interested in young in shape american...oh well...too close to the border I guess.
What did I do :
As I mentioned before I focused on photography and eating some good food besides sex. I took photos all along the border fence from the ocean to the airport in otay mesa by the airport. I also did a series of head shots of deported gang members and ex cons. This was the most interesting to me hearing their stories and where they did time etc. It will be an excellent addition to my phots of TJ in general.
I also visited a few art galleries..got invited to a gallery event on the eve of my birthday commemorating local border fence artists. People from mexico city even showed up for that one. I walked into a teen girl fashion show by chance. I had to dumb myself way down to get into that one:)
Bobisee took me on incredible photo journeys through the real barrios of TJ. I am extremely grateful to him for this. I learned alot about TJ and mongering TJ from bobisee. If it wasnt for his freindship and his help I probably wouldnt have had such a good time regardless of the quailty of sessions. Just by walking around the zona with him and his friend i saw what it takes. He knows all the street people the chicas by name etc. etc. thats what it really takes to cash in on TJ. You need to be a regular
I walked all over with my camera visiting people like I do in south america. Besides the few overly aggresive sales people I found the people of tijuana to be typical of mexican people further south....VERY KIND. Although you need to make the effort to distance yourself from the typical gringo they usually encounter.
I havent been stopped once by a cop nor have I been mugged. I have however been looked at at times as a potential prospect but I gave the proper body language to thwart off any activity.
Conclusion :
If you live in cali and can get to TJ fairly easy lucky you! If you are visiting the USA from europe and can get to TJ absolutely visit this slice of americana. It will be more intersting than new orleans... For all you other guys forget it. Save your money and go further south where most things are better the further you get way from america. I like TJ but I cannot recommend it as a mongering only location. You have to want to do more than fuck to get a good time out of TJ....I did.
Thank you once again to ISG...a network of true intellectuals bringing each other together one step at a time...My ADD disorder is kicking in...gotta go
Peace & Love.... lot of ass licking!!! BUY CARHARTT
Sorry for the typos. As I said my ADD is going through the roof right about now. I must get off this computer immediately.
ARTISTTYP
Thanks for sharing the many details of your extended stay in Tijuana and your 40th celebrations. Bravo Bravo !
We have very few current reports on drug addicted sex worker experience in Tijuana thread. You are right about the girls attributes are different as they stand next to CC and on the corner.
Is risk an issue? I remember the experience of a heroine addicts in Europe from years back. The daily need for money for a fix, what a daily struggle it is to watch the rush for money and this was not a sex worker as far as I knew at that time. Located at the train stations and able to speak English and give directions. Just like a local tour guide and asked for spare change. Mostly very friendly, beautiful looking and knowledgeable. Demenor questionable at times. Drug addicts are humane too.
Last report about club is posted in Tropical Bar thread with questionable experience and outcome. You TR is the first positive current report in this thread on this subject of working drug addited sex worker in Tijuana.
Congratulation on your safe 40th celebration.
The biggest success I had was last night hanging out with bobisee. He turned me onto a hotel right next door to the chicago club. You will see girls hanging out in front in the hallway entrance to the hotel. Most are low end or meth heads but the service I got last night was by far the best. This girl gave me a serious BBBJ that only a pro could give. $20 for her and $5 for the room with a 20mxn tip. I will go back to that area this evening.
From my experiences the druggies are the way to go as far as Sws. You will see many lookers but they are full of shit. There will always be a line of hard up gringos in TJ getting off by just putting their condom wrapped dick into pussy for $20. A sucker will be born every minute. Your business means nothing more or less. Their life doesnt depend on it. the border is just too close.
Stick with the meth heads for special services and be ready to take a fe steps down in the looks department. I will go to no one but the druggies at this point. I sort of get off tossing a tramp anyway.
* Dont let them do drugs in the room ! I had to get very firm with one of them that wanted to light up in the room...are you out of your fucking mind i told her.
I have a stopwatch and sometimes I paid for 30 minutes hotel time and got a knock at 23 minutes into the session. I was more or less ready at that point but just be aware.
As goofy as it sounds carrying a cheap stopwatch is not a bad idea. not once has a chica argued against it.
***Always pay after...no exceptions. I just told her the money will be on the table for her for when she completes the deal. Dont settle for anything less. A good **** will have no problem with this.
The Clubs:
Every club but hong kong was lame. I walked into all the adelitas etc. I found them to be dark dull and void of any ambiance. I couldnt enjoy a beer in any of them.
Hong kong club is an excellent bar and is quite swanky for TJ. Always action at HK and the girls are very pretty..decent music $3 beers and $1 touching dances. If you can bring a stack of singles. You will want them.
Las Pulgas :
I went three times. The first time I pulled a very average chica but at the end of our evening she wanted cab fare. This is without sex and still hanging out in the club. I absolutely refused and steeped on. I saw they were trying the same with a mexican guy.
In general the music sucks here...just mexicabn cumbia which is god awful. I heard maybe one salsa song and one meregue. The rest were ranchera cowboy songs. It was mainly a couples only place on the various nights I went. Single mexican women didnt seem interested in young in shape american...oh well...too close to the border I guess.
What did I do :
As I mentioned before I focused on photography and eating some good food besides sex. I took photos all along the border fence from the ocean to the airport in otay mesa by the airport. I also did a series of head shots of deported gang members and ex cons. This was the most interesting to me hearing their stories and where they did time etc. It will be an excellent addition to my phots of TJ in general.
I also visited a few art galleries..got invited to a gallery event on the eve of my birthday commemorating local border fence artists. People from mexico city even showed up for that one. I walked into a teen girl fashion show by chance. I had to dumb myself way down to get into that one:)
Bobisee took me on incredible photo journeys through the real barrios of TJ. I am extremely grateful to him for this. I learned alot about TJ and mongering TJ from bobisee. If it wasnt for his freindship and his help I probably wouldnt have had such a good time regardless of the quailty of sessions. Just by walking around the zona with him and his friend i saw what it takes. He knows all the street people the chicas by name etc. etc. thats what it really takes to cash in on TJ. You need to be a regular
I walked all over with my camera visiting people like I do in south america. Besides the few overly aggresive sales people I found the people of tijuana to be typical of mexican people further south....VERY KIND. Although you need to make the effort to distance yourself from the typical gringo they usually encounter.
I havent been stopped once by a cop nor have I been mugged. I have however been looked at at times as a potential prospect but I gave the proper body language to thwart off any activity.
Conclusion :
If you live in cali and can get to TJ fairly easy lucky you! If you are visiting the USA from europe and can get to TJ absolutely visit this slice of americana. It will be more intersting than new orleans... For all you other guys forget it. Save your money and go further south where most things are better the further you get way from america. I like TJ but I cannot recommend it as a mongering only location. You have to want to do more than fuck to get a good time out of TJ....I did.
Thank you once again to ISG...a network of true intellectuals bringing each other together one step at a time...My ADD disorder is kicking in...gotta go
Peace & Love.... lot of ass licking!!! BUY CARHARTT
Sorry for the typos. As I said my ADD is going through the roof right about now. I must get off this computer immediately.
ARTISTTYP
Precocious One
10-24-09, 15:56
Yes it is true. My sperm count will drop considerably from this point forward. However I have utilized my leche to the fullest extent in these past few years. So all is good.
I am getting ready to head back to chula vista for two days before my return to NYC. I would first like to thank everybody on this forum. You guys do a good job of dishing out information and I hope that my contributions assist others the same way.
I dedicate this post to a new friend "bobisee" and to country jhon. You guys have provided me and the forum with valuable information...thank you!
Intro:
My original plan was to spend a few days in TJ then head over to cuidad juarez and maybe mexicali. However due to mis information on the juarez thread I found out that TJ to Juarez is a 24+ hour trip by bus. Unfortunately juarez will have to be another trip. Not all was lost though. I found my stay in TJ of almost 2 weeks to be very fullfiling. Ive been pretty busy until now.
Why:
Why TJ you ask ? I am an avid photographer and I wanted to utilize a free domestic ticket I had to do a photo essay of the border towns with TJ and Juarez being the most important. I have been here several times before in my early intl mongering days but I never stayed in TJ. This time I wanted to stay in mexico and feel what it is like to live here. I sort of knew the mongering was nowhere near what I have gotten used to in south america but I wanted to see what all that experience would get me here. The answer is NOT MUCH but I have gotten a feel for what it takes to score good here. However I would need to be here alot longer to really "get it".
Begin :
I flew to san diego from NYC. The #992 bus at the airport to trolley station america plaza went very smooth. Buy a day pass for $5 bills or coins and then transfer to the san isidro trolley...very easy. Give yourself a little longer to get back to the airport if you are in chula vista. Sometimes you just miss a trolley and you need to wait awhile until the next one...just like nyc.
I stayed at the motel 6 on e street. It is located very close to the trolley as well as the best western. You wont have to drag your luggage too far if you stay in either place. The single rooms were very small but comfortable for $48 with tax inlcluded. They have their own security that look like real sheriffs. They were a little agressive in following me when I arrived but I can appreciate the security non the less.
Next day I moved onto la villa de zaragoza in TJ where I have been ever since. I think this is an excellent recommendation from the forum for many reasons:
Nice staff
Quiet
Ice Machine
Big Rooms
Various ammenities surrounding the hotel (laundry,supermarket,off the beaten path restaurants,walking distance to zona rio)
I was upgraded to a delux room for the same price of a single. My daily rate was 550 pesos which included tax. Upon checking in the assured me a guest was ok as long as they register at the desk. The guest fee was waived for me due to my lengthy stay.
I had hot water and clean towels every day.
My few complaints about the hotel start with the carpets. They are absolutely disgusting. I always bring flip flops and eventually I got over it but it was very ugly to look at. They do try to make up for it by folding towels into swan shapes and giving you shampoos and other knick knacks. I guess they dont make enough to renovate too often.
My door didn´t have a rubber sealer on it and at night I felt rather annoying draft. The heater/AC worked for me for the most part but it does its own thing by shutting off when it gets too hot etc. According to my calculations it was off a few times and I woke up to a breeze at around 5 am.
I like the fact that it is on the opposite end of revolucion away from the action. Also it gave me a good opportunity to walk alot and stay fit from all the food I have been eating.
Yes I would stay here again.
Food:
I was worried about eating in TJ but I found the food to be very appetizing.
My favorites are :
Tacos,Menudos Tupidos located a block from the zaragoza
calle 8 no 1941 entre madero y revolucion.
This was the best place for typical mexican food at very reasonable prices. The place is very clean and the staff is very friendly. They also serve pancakes for breakfast if that is your thing. I highly recommend this place for lunch.
Tai-Ki-Si Japenese Restaurant
Blvd fundadores esquina con aqua caliente
This is a very moderately priced trendy japanese restaurant. They give you a ton of free goodies...free soup free ice tea and free desert with your meal. They even asked me If I wanted a free refill on my free ice tea! The food is decent and comparable to any japanese food i have eaten in south america. they dont have all the ingredients for suchi here but they do have some interesting dishes and rolls. It is a nice change from mexican food.
Vittorios/Italian food
Av. Revolucion y calle novena
Ok italian food but better pizza from what I saw and ate but still a nice change from typical mexican food....very nice enviornment and affordable prices.
Shopping:
TJ isnt what it was 6 years ago. Although there are still a number of stores open I found the quality of goods to be diminished. That isnt to say that you cant find good leather items but you need to know where to go.
I found two very high quality leather shops.
1. In plaza zapato across from plaza rio you will see a store in the very bottom of the mall towards the back. La Herradura De Oro is what it is called. It mainly caters to horse rider and mexican cowboys (charros) but you can find many nice belts and buckles here as well as a few other knick knacks.
Talabarteria Atoyac/ Leather factory/special orders
These guys are located at calle 3a no.2035 tel 685-0168
These guys made me a killer belt. I chose one that didnt have a hidden zipper and they put it on for me in one day. They have by far the best quality leather accessories I have seen in TJ. I went into almost all the leather stores and these two stuck out to me. I bought three belts at atoyac ...two for $25 each and one very special belt with add ons for $40...Do visit if you are looking for leather.
Tattoos:
I have a few myself but I was curious about the chicano art. El beto at tat 2 Mex calle6TA y revolucion had the best artist. He has some photos of himself taken with cat from miami ink and hes been in a few expos etc. If i was to get tattooed in TJ I would probably go with him. Ask to see his book. Unfortunately he cannot obtain a visa for the USA or else he would be making good money there.
Tel 044 664 311 9542 . He soeaks a little english.
Portraits:
If you have a photo that you want turned into a painting visit *luciano at rotulos 1770-2 avenida madero 687-43-99. This guy is an excellent artist that just doesn,t have any connections in the art world. He does art for pleasure like a true artist. Although he really should be exhibiting his work.
Chicas:
I sort of knew what to expect before coming here but with the economic crisis I thought things would be a little different. Maybe just a little but not much.
The Breakdown:
SWs - I only sessioned with sws due to the pricing structure here in TJ. I have gotten spoiled by my time in south america so paying $70 for a 30 minute question is out of the question to me. In a few weeks I will go someplace esle so to me it would be a waste of money.
I would have spent $70 for a session on my birthday but you really dont know what type of service you will get. I dont risk $70 like that nor did I want a negative vibe to interfer with my trip. I passed on the club girls.
The paraditas outside the clubs are very attractive and very affordable at about 200mxn a session plus 50/60mxn for the room. Unfortunately the name paraditas coincides with their service. The word parar means to stop or parado to be standing up...hence the term paraditas...someone who stands against the wall and tells you to STOP when you describe what services you enjoy. What I mean is only 10 to 20 % of them will let you do DATY or lick their ass (even less). If all you want to do is stick it in with a rubber for 15 minutes then go ahead. I at least need to taste some pussy to get off. I did manage to do that a few times as well as one ass but for the most part they were uneventful sessions with dead fishes. I mainly searched *off of coahuilla for independents.
The biggest success I had was last night hanging out with bobisee. He turned me onto a hotel right next door to the chicago club. You will see girls hanging out in front in the hallway entrance to the hotel. Most are low end or meth heads but the service I got last night was by far the best. This girl gave me a serious BBBJ that only a pro could give. $20 for her and $5 for the room with a 20mxn tip. I will go back to that area this evening.
From my experiences the druggies are the way to go as far as Sws. You will see many lookers but they are full of shit. There will always be a line of hard up gringos in TJ getting off by just putting their condom wrapped dick into pussy for $20. A sucker will be born every minute. Your business means nothing more or less. Their life doesnt depend on it. the border is just too close.
Stick with the meth heads for special services and be ready to take a fe steps down in the looks department. I will go to no one but the druggies at this point. I sort of get off tossing a tramp anyway.
* Dont let them do drugs in the room ! I had to get very firm with one of them that wanted to light up in the room...are you out of your fucking mind i told her.
I have a stopwatch and sometimes I paid for 30 minutes hotel time and got a knock at 23 minutes into the session. I was more or less ready at that point but just be aware.
As goofy as it sounds carrying a cheap stopwatch is not a bad idea. not once has a chica argued against it.
***Always pay after...no exceptions. I just told her the money will be on the table for her for when she completes the deal. Dont settle for anything less. A good **** will have no problem with this.
The Clubs:
Every club but hong kong was lame. I walked into all the adelitas etc. I found them to be dark dull and void of any ambiance. I couldnt enjoy a beer in any of them.
Hong kong club is an excellent bar and is quite swanky for TJ. Always action at HK and the girls are very pretty..decent music $3 beers and $1 touching dances. If you can bring a stack of singles. You will want them.
Las Pulgas :
I went three times. The first time I pulled a very average chica but at the end of our evening she wanted cab fare. This is without sex and still hanging out in the club. I absolutely refused and steeped on. I saw they were trying the same with a mexican guy.
In general the music sucks here...just mexicabn cumbia which is god awful. I heard maybe one salsa song and one meregue. The rest were ranchera cowboy songs. It was mainly a couples only place on the various nights I went. Single mexican women didnt seem interested in young in shape american...oh well...too close to the border I guess.
What did I do :
As I mentioned before I focused on photography and eating some good food besides sex. I took photos all along the border fence from the ocean to the airport in otay mesa by the airport. I also did a series of head shots of deported gang members and ex cons. This was the most interesting to me hearing their stories and where they did time etc. It will be an excellent addition to my phots of TJ in general.
I also visited a few art galleries..got invited to a gallery event on the eve of my birthday commemorating local border fence artists. People from mexico city even showed up for that one. I walked into a teen girl fashion show by chance. I had to dumb myself way down to get into that one:)
Bobisee took me on incredible photo journeys through the real barrios of TJ. I am extremely grateful to him for this. I learned alot about TJ and mongering TJ from bobisee. If it wasnt for his freindship and his help I probably wouldnt have had such a good time regardless of the quailty of sessions. Just by walking around the zona with him and his friend i saw what it takes. He knows all the street people the chicas by name etc. etc. thats what it really takes to cash in on TJ. You need to be a regular
I walked all over with my camera visiting people like I do in south america. Besides the few overly aggresive sales people I found the people of tijuana to be typical of mexican people further south....VERY KIND. Although you need to make the effort to distance yourself from the typical gringo they usually encounter.
I havent been stopped once by a cop nor have I been mugged. I have however been looked at at times as a potential prospect but I gave the proper body language to thwart off any activity.
Conclusion :
If you live in cali and can get to TJ fairly easy lucky you! If you are visiting the USA from europe and can get to TJ absolutely visit this slice of americana. It will be more intersting than new orleans... For all you other guys forget it. Save your money and go further south where most things are better the further you get way from america. I like TJ but I cannot recommend it as a mongering only location. You have to want to do more than fuck to get a good time out of TJ....I did.
Thank you once again to ISG...a network of true intellectuals bringing each other together one step at a time...My ADD disorder is kicking in...gotta go
Peace & Love.... lot of ass licking!!! BUY CARHARTT
Sorry for the typos. As I said my ADD is going through the roof right about now. I must get off this computer immediately.
ARTISTTYP
So instead of laboring through the traditional male American 40th birthday with friends, family and colleagues, you elected to go to Mexico alone to celebrate with hook_rs, cervezas and tequila.
Classic. Absolutely fuc_ing classic.
Somebody buy this man a drink for thinking outside the box.
By the way, great TR.
PS
Don't know if you noticed but your 1000th post came on your 40th.
I was wondering if the additional 30 min airtime to San Diego would be worthwhile vs a trip to Mexicali? It would. Everybody should check out the scene in Tijuana's Zona Norte at least once.
How close is Brown Field to "La Linea? " What local transportation is available? Is it best to return "state-side" or spend the night South?Go to AirNav.com and find the page for KSDM. I'm sure the FBO can advise re transportation on the U.S. side to the border. (Taxi? Crew car? Rental car?) Then clink on the link for the Mapquest map of the local area. You'll see that KSDM sits between two border crossings, San Ysidro to the west and Otay Mesa to the east. Mapquest also shows the location of the Zona Norte. As you can see, the zona is closer to San Ysidro.
If you enter Mexico at Otay Mesa, you'll have to take a cross town taxi ride to the Zona Norte. I've never done this, so perhaps others can opine whether this is a hassle or prohibitively expensive. If you cross at San Ysdiro it's just a short cab ride to the Zona Norte. Follow the instructions in the Brockton O'Toole FAQ (here on this site).
Others may disagree, but I prefer to lodge north of the border. I'm rather fussy about my creature comforts, so I'm just not willing to rough it in the rather basic digs available in and around the Zona Norte. If you are more tolerant, you'll find lots of discussion of TJ lodging on this board. If you'd prefer to stay in the United States there are lots of hotel suggestions in the O'Toole FAQ. You can also search for my prior posts reviewing the hotels in Chula Vista.
I don't know what your budget is, but if you're flying a general aviation aircraft I can't imagine you're hurting for funds. So I recommend renting a car at KSDM, staying in Chula Vista, and commuting to the Zona Norte. If KSDM is served by taxis, I guesstimate it would be $30-35 from the field to the Chula Vista hotel district on E Street near the I-5. At that point you can hop on the trolley to the border.
Regards,
Bunky
It is good walk to the taxi stand past the money changer and customs to your right or take the bus for 8 pesos or collective for 10 pesos from the main drag. The main drag is 300 yards. If you feel safe and only during day light.
The maximum taxi fare is 15 dollars to Zona Norts from Otay Mesa.
Ask to go via Tijuana airport road.
Check on the current border closing time. Use to be closed at midnight to 6 am for foot traffic.
If you enter Mexico at Otay Mesa, you'll have to take a cross town taxi ride to the Zona Norte. I've never done this, so perhaps others can opine whether this is a hassle or prohibitively expensive. If you cross at San Ysdiro it's just a short cab ride to the Zona Norte. Follow the instructions in the Brockton O'Toole FAQ (here on this site).
So instead of laboring through the traditional male American 40th birthday with friends, family and colleagues, you elected to go to Mexico alone to celebrate with hook_rs, cervezas and tequila.
Classic. Absolutely fuc_ing classic.
Somebody buy this man a drink for thinking outside the box.
By the way, great TR.
PS
Don't know if you noticed but your 1000th post came on your 40th.
Thanks. I celebrated it this way due to necessity. The only birthday wishes I got was an email from my mother and my childhood friend. The rest of my family was AWOL...nice especially when I was a helping hand at my siblings 40th birthday.
I chose my destiny and Im not sorry. I am a product of my enviornment and I act accordingly.
I was more than happy to celebrate the big day surrounded by sleaze and latin culture. If anything defines me at this point is my growth and insight that I have gained by traveling. That is what has and will shape me from this point on.
Yes of course I timed my 1000 post to my birthday. I look forward to re reading this report in a year or so.
* I forgot to mention two things :
Lucha Libre- This is the mexican version of the WWF wrestling. They still have matches on fridays around 8/9 pm at the auditorio municipal de tijuana. However when I got there there was something else going on and wrestling was put off until sunday. I was told cameras are ok then I was told they arent ok thats why I never went back on sunday.
A taxi from revo should be like $5/6 each way.
Tecate- I would have liked to have gone to visit this colonial town but there were only two choices in buses. One way would have been 2 hrs long doing the entire routa (route) or one non stop bus via highway at 11:50am which would have had me stuck in rush hour traffic on the way back. There are no bathrooms on either bus so I passed.
In car it would take roughly 30/45 minutes.
*** If anyone has been to ciudad juarez and TJ I would love to read a report comparing the two. Do they both have a decent size zona ? What else can I do besides monger ? Is the food good ? Are leather products decent?
If anyone has the time and energy Id like to know.
Thanks.
Happy Birthday dude.
Last year for my 40th, I worked. Then I got myself a pair of socks afterwards.
I think I'm going to head South this year for my 41st. And treat myself to something BETTER!
Happy B-day I have been around a while this is an excellent account, of how to have some fun and eat at places you would not normally go to.
I must admit the observation about the stuff going on at Chicago and the hotel there has been going on for years, also you probably did not get hassled because your friend was and is known so there is a possibility you were not mugged, ripped off or hassled by the locals and Policia due to his presence.
Zarragoza has been my favorite hotel for over 15 years, i like the ambiance and also when revo was rocking many years ago it was even more convineint, the best place that i like for food is La especial, which has been there for over 40 years. it is an alley way right off of revo great menu.
Las Pulgas is a hit or miss place, sometimes chicas looking for mature older dudes and then some other nights younger ones who want to party all night. But as you mention the possibility of being ripped off is still there.
Great happy B-day dude
If you live in cali and can get to TJ fairly easy lucky you! If you are visiting the USA from europe and can get to TJ absolutely visit this slice of americana.I think you mean Mexicana. lol
Then again Tj is what it is because Mexicans are catering to what Americans want and can't get back home so it has become a part of America.
It will be more intersting than new orleans... For all you other guys forget it. Save your money and go further south where most things are better the further you get way from america.Such as?
Nice report. Thanks and Happy Birthday!
you probably did not get hassled because your friend was and is known so there is a possibility you were not mugged, ripped off or hassled by the locals and Policia due to his presence.
I went around by myself alot as well but not without eyes in the back of my head. You certainy do not want to take security lightly when you are in the zona.
I made two mistakes:
1. Somehow after doing my rounds I wound up on some streets 3/4 blocks out of the zona. This is not a good idea.
2. I didn't always have correct change so there were times I went into my money belt during a session. Obviously I didn't carry all my money just enough to go out. Even still doing that was a bad idea. If I lived there it would have been an even worse idea. Sometimes you need more money and you have to get into your stash at the wrong times. Unfortunately you can't always get the privacy you need.
Whenever I did see police activity I made sure to walk past them in a firm mannner with a serious face on. They look for people staggering around or acting stupid. I wanted to convey the opposite.
* I didn't necessarily "hang out" in the zona. I did my rounds everyday and dipped in and out.
The street characters that I wanted to avoid the most were the white american street girls. Unfortunately I met one of them and she was giving me some weird looks. The american influence over there is the most concerning to me. You have girls that have worked the streets of the US and they know their clientele. I wouldn't want to get too personal with any of them.
Alot of people are down on their luck in TJ. They move there because they were deported or struggling financially in the states. Take all these people and clump them together and you have the zona.
The zona is no joke.
Derekj6926
10-28-09, 16:30
Gentlemen,
I have been in the Zona Norte dozens of times without a problem, please don't scare people by making it sound dangerous, it is really no more dangerous than any other district of its kind in any city. You are not at a church picnic guys you are in a prostitution district and yes you need to be wise and yes you need to be careful, people are people no matter where you are. When in the Zona Norte show tremendous respect even when you don't feel the people deserve it. If one wants to fight, get drunk, or do drugs do that in the USA, save your sensuous passion for Zona Norte ladies!
Are there any American style strip clubs that someone can recommend? I am taking a coworker to TJ this weekend but don't think he is interested in mongering. Please help.
Derekj6926
10-30-09, 14:19
Hong Kong Bar is your answer, he would need to lose his pulse not to enjoy the atmosphere there, and they will strip as far as his heart desires!
Are there any American style strip clubs that someone can recommend? I am taking a coworker to TJ this weekend but don't think he is interested in mongering. Please help.
Are there any American style strip clubs that someone can recommend? I am taking a coworker to TJ this weekend but don't think he is interested in mongering. Please help.
Just take him to Adelitas... I bet he will change his mind
Are there any American style strip clubs that someone can recommend? I am taking a coworker to TJ this weekend but don't think he is interested in mongering. Please help.
There are a few left on Revolucion. Most are not worth it. Amnesia, at the far South end, on the East side of the street, is probably the "best." Also expensive. Some say the girls are better looking.
I think you'll prefer HK.
I found a 9mm round on Revolution today in front of one of the gift shops on the south end of Revolution. Nice find eh? Sheesh. I have a friend who works at TJPD who took it into custody. My girl asked why I didn't throw it into the trash, but when you know what an accidental discharge is, I wouldn't want that to happen to anyone.
PPan, when you clear the parking structure it's a straight drop (almost) and I'd be interested to know rate of decent before in ground effect in a heavy. The decision height markers are a ways down the runway too.
Still risky since if you got caught driving or walking around with a live round on you by the policia, federales or soldiers while going to your friend then you're f"cked... sure they gonna believe you that you just happened to find it lol. Guns and ammo are the one thing that a small bribe is not gonna help you get out of in Mexico. Not even for gringos.
Gentlemen,
Thank you to those who gave me advice regarding the American style strip club. My wingman and I crossed the border around 10 AM and walked to the Zona Norte. Yes it was early with not much action, but we needed to kill time, as we were waiting to head out to Plaza Monumental to watch a bullfight. It was fun to walk around the alley and have him in awe of the street walkers.
We headed down to the bullfight around 11:30. In case anyone has not seen one, they do exist in Tijuana and are worth seeing once. We made it back to la zona around 7:30 PM and walked up and down the alley, through HK and around in AB. Thanks to advice provided on this forum, I had the right information. We decided to have at seat at the bar at HK, as my wingman was not interested in mongering (at the time). I had printed off some of the coupons available on the HK website (again thanks to your help). One coupon is for, " buy one get one free" drinks and the other is for half off your first privado (lap dance). We sat at the bar closest to the Coahuila entrance, enjoyed our half priced cocktails, and checked out the gals on stage. Wow! My wingman decided he liked this slender dirty blonde, with nerdy, taped up glasses. We asked the mesero to get her. (I've seen it spelled masero on this forum several times, but the correct spelling is mesero by the way).
Anyhow, she came up and sat on my wingman's lap. She had poor English, and my wingman's Spanish was just as bad. I'm a native speaker, so I had to translate. It was my wingman's first time outside of the US so I needed to read him the rules of engagement (eg hands can wander freely unlike at a real American club). I asked the girls how the privado worked, and she read off her entire menu.
Option 1: Private dance, 2 songs, 20 bucks
Option 2: Upstairs, oral, vag, and anal, 70 bucks.
My wingman decided on option #1 and used the half off coupon mentioned above. He came out of the booth a couple songs later with a tremendous grin, that told me that those were the best 10 bucks he had ever spent. He was contemplating on taking her up on option # 2, but then he asked what I wanted to do. We had another drink, and roamed around to the other side of the club to watch the shaving cream show and scout for other hot chicas. We sat at a booth and had yet another drink, before I suggested we go a few doors down to sit at AB.
We got to AB and sat at a booth along the wall near hottie central. I explained how the system works there and suggested that we each take a turn walking around the whole club to scout for something we may like. There was this blonde (didn't ask for her name) which he had me invite over to sit at his table, while I invited "Jessi" a 24 year old from Tijuana. We each bought them a ficha and after a short conversation with Jessi about her not providing GFE, I was ready to ditch her. By this time my wingman decided that he was gonna go up with his girl. I told him to go and meet me at the bar downstairs afterwards. It was getting late so I decided I was gonna pull a random, cold turkey and ask her to go up. I got lucky as Minerva, a slender blonde, from Guadalajara, with nice enhancements was at hottie central, I had wanted to invite her over for a ficha, but she had disappeared. Some guy had just bought here a drink and was BSing with her. I keep trying to make eye contact, and finally she came up to me and asked if I wanted company. I said yes and up we went after she excused herself from the guy who had purchased her a drink.
Up at the room she read me her rules. Essentially, the rules were that I could kiss and touch her anywhere, except not touching or kissing her moneymaker. The shift had just changed and she mentioned that I was her first of the night, always a plus. We got undressed and engaged in a bit of foreplay. She offered me DFK for an extra 20 bucks, I declined, but she proceeded to provide DFK anyhow, which was fantastic. She gave me a CBJ for about 10 min. Then asked that I get on top of her in mish. I banged her for another 15-20 min like this, while enjoying the DFK. This was simply incredible! She then asked that I focus on finishing, so I asked for her to get in cowgirl for me to finish. She proceeded to bang my brains out in this position until I finished, once again while engaged in DFK. She cleaned up and I paid her. She was very nice and passionate even after we walked outside.
By the way she told me she works night shift, Thursday to Sundays. Again thank you to all for the invaluable advice which helped make this trip a success.
Report Card for Minerva
Looks - 8/10 (I’m a sucker for blondes)
Attitude - 8/10
Sex - 9/10 (Definitely did it with the DFK)
Overall - 8/10 (would repeat!)
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By the way she told me she works night shift, Thursday to Sundays. Again thank you to all for the invaluable advice which helped make this trip a success.
Nice report but I'm also interested in knowing what your friend thought about Tj and the bars and girls. Also, why was his mind set in not wanting to be a john when first arriving to Tj? Was this both you and your friends' first time in Tj?
Here is a link/URL cre8tivelab.shutterfly.com to my photo essay and editorial piece about tijuana. Please forgive me if this is agains't forum rules. If it is please remove this post. I mean no harm.
ArtisttypI don't think posting that link violates any kind of rules. Although, I think the site has a picture of you and even contains your real name. Are you okay with that?
Nice report but I'm also interested in knowing what your friend thought about Tj and the bars and girls. Also, why was his mind set in not wanting to be a john when first arriving to Tj? Was this both you and your friends' first time in Tj?
The mind set of not wanting to be a john, was just inhibitions I guess. He said it was his first time with someone other than his wife of over a decade years... He was quite impressed with the TJ girls, and seemed to be in awe of what goes on in these places and enjoyed the lack of "rules" which exist in American strip clubs. He especially liked the shaving cream show at HK. It was his first time in TJ, but I've been going for 5 years now on average every 3 months.
Nice report but I'm also interested in knowing what your friend thought about Tj and the bars and girls. Also, why was his mind set in not wanting to be a john when first arriving to Tj? Was this both you and your friends' first time in Tj?
I don't think posting that link violates any kind of rules. Although, I think the site has a picture of you and even contains your real name. Are you okay with that?
All it has is my first name. I don't think anyone will recognize me now.
DJ FourMoney
11-03-09, 11:10
Also, why was his mind set in not wanting to be a john when first arriving to Tj? ?
Because many men in America believe they have never paid for it.... Why officially admit that you are indeed paying for it?
Because many men in America believe they have never paid for it.... Why officially admit that you are indeed paying for it?
Great point!
Derekj6926
11-03-09, 17:24
You are a man of wisdom, oh and what a price I have paid over my lifetime, I could own a good portion of the Zona Norte with that price tag! I find TJ really inexpensive compared to buy a house for several women.
Because many men in America believe they have never paid for it.... Why officially admit that you are indeed paying for it?
Blue Balls Hurt
11-04-09, 02:44
Because many men in America believe they have never paid for it.... Why officially admit that you are indeed paying for it?I tell my friends this all the time. I tell them pussy is never free, but they always disagree.
DJ FourMoney
11-04-09, 19:05
You are a man of wisdom, oh and what a price I have paid over my lifetime, I could own a good portion of the Zona Norte with that price tag! I find TJ really inexpensive compared to buy a house for several women.
Average Cost of a Wedding - $20,398
Average Cost of a Home in Los Angeles - $575,000
Average Cost of a Divorce in California - $20,000
Life Lesson Learned - Priceless
As I have said before some men take a car purchase more seriously than pussy for LTR and I back away, turn around and run when they drop bombs like "Pussy is Pussy".
Derekj6926
11-04-09, 19:12
Let me say that because I did not learn the first time I am over $2 mil. in expenses for marriages that did now work because they found greener pastures elsewhere. I could own Hong Kong Bar for a portion of that 2 mil and live happily ever after with what was left over and never work again. You are so right people put more thought into buying a car sometimes than what marriage will cost them in our society where marriage only works for about five percent of the population. This is an education that Harvard could not give you.........enough said now everyone knows why for me a $3.50 cover charge is nothing for what you get in return at HK Bar
Average Cost of a Wedding - $20,398
Average Cost of a Home in Los Angeles - $575,000
Average Cost of a Divorce in California - $20,000
Life Lesson Learned - Priceless
As I have said before some men take a car purchase more seriously than pussy for LTR and I back away, turn around and run when they drop bombs like "Pussy is Pussy".
SuperSteve
11-04-09, 19:27
Why not marry someone with more money than you? Take a page from the Gringa handbook. Why not get half of hers? Also try mediation, if you live in a community property state, rather than attorney's. My half of the divorce cost $1, 750.00, plus I got a portion of her money.
Anyway, I will be in Tijuana this weekend Friday Night to Sunday morning. A friend is flying in from the East Coast. We will of course hit the usuals AB, HK, CC, Chavelas, Tropical.
Any places that are "must see" other than the usual haunts? I would like to find the "diamond-in-the-rough"!
Health & happiness to all.
DJ FourMoney
11-05-09, 04:47
This isn't the place for political arguments but the foot traffic was way down long before the passport requirement. In my opinion the narco violence you refer to was a bigger factor.
This would be Southern Californian Suburbanites who have never experienced low income communities and automatically assume when the "liberal media" shows them the drug war along the boarder has actually nothing to do with them.
Of course never explains it either...
Slowroller
11-06-09, 03:33
I apologize if this is the wrong place to put this, but I'm looking at going to Tijuana this weekend, Friday November 6th to Sunday the 8th.
Normally I go with a friend from LA, but he's out this time and I'm wondering if there is anybody who will be down there and is interested in being a wingman.
I've been down about a dozen times over the last three years, just thought it would be interesting to have a different compadre this time around. No need to share a room or anything, I've got my own, and I'll buy the first round.
Thanks
I apologize if this is the wrong place to put this, but I'm looking at going to Tijuana this weekend, Friday November 6th to Sunday the 8th.
Normally I go with a friend from LA, but he's out this time and I'm wondering if there is anybody who will be down there and is interested in being a wingman.
I've been down about a dozen times over the last three years, just thought it would be interesting to have a different compadre this time around. No need to share a room or anything, I've got my own, and I'll buy the first round.
Thanks
Yes, it's the correct place to post this.
Welcome. I hope you're able to connect with a new wingman. Sometimes it can be a blast to go by yourself, too. Have you tried it?
Derekj6926
11-06-09, 22:14
I have never gone to TJ with a wingman in all my many trips to TJ. I would suggest you try it solo. Some think you are safer alone than with a wingman, all I can say is I never have any trouble there and have met quite a few people who are there for the same reasons. I will be there the first weekend of December looking to have the grand time as I usually do. I find arriving late Thursday afternoon and leaving Monday morning works best for me as that is when the action heats up with the ladies swarming the Zona Norte.
I apologize if this is the wrong place to put this, but I'm looking at going to Tijuana this weekend, Friday November 6th to Sunday the 8th.
Normally I go with a friend from LA, but he's out this time and I'm wondering if there is anybody who will be down there and is interested in being a wingman.
I've been down about a dozen times over the last three years, just thought it would be interesting to have a different compadre this time around. No need to share a room or anything, I've got my own, and I'll buy the first round.
Thanks
Jumped in a yellow taxi Thursday night about 9:30 driven by a kid who thought he was Michael Schumacher. He took the left hand sweeper that leads to the northern part of the city like it was the Blanchimont corner at Spa, then stood on the brakes at the first light like he was setting up for the Parabolica at Monza.
When we made the left onto Coahuila and the Adelita Bar shimmered in the distance I thought my wild ride would soon be over. Unfortunately my driver's lookout discipline was as poor as his driving judgment and a couple of blocks away he blew past several cops who had set up a roadside checkpoint.
A few yards down the road another officer waved us to the curb. Anticipating the customary thorough frisk from an officer hoping to find something to justify a payoff, I sat in the passenger seat fuming about drawing a driver who was such an idiot.
Imagine my surprise when the officers left me alone. Not one approached my side of the taxi, spoke to me, or gave any indication whatsover that they cared about me one little bit. Instead they wrote the driver a ticket (in record time I might add) and sent us on our way.
I seem to recall reading a report here speculating that whoever owns the yellow taxi concern pays off the police to leave its passengers alone. That certainly seemed to be the case Thursday night. My (non) encounter with the cops stood in sharp contrast to the last time I was in a Taxi Libre and the cops pulled us over for the sole purpose of going through my pockets.
If anybody has more to add on my theory, I'd be interested to read it.
Regards,
Bunky
Super Gato
11-08-09, 07:28
Jumped in a yellow taxi Thursday night about 9:30 driven by a kid who thought he was Michael Schumacher. He took the left hand sweeper that leads to the northern part of the city like it was the Blanchimont corner at Spa, then stood on the brakes at the first light like he was setting up for the Parabolica at Monza.
When we made the left onto Coahuila and the Adelita Bar shimmered in the distance I thought my wild ride would soon be over. Unfortunately my driver's lookout discipline was as poor as his driving judgment and a couple of blocks away he blew past several cops who had set up a roadside checkpoint.
A few yards down the road another officer waved us to the curb. Anticipating the customary thorough frisk from an officer hoping to find something to justify a payoff, I sat in the passenger seat fuming about drawing a driver who was such an idiot.
Imagine my surprise when the officers left me alone. Not one approached my side of the taxi, spoke to me, or gave any indication whatsover that they cared about me one little bit. Instead they wrote the driver a ticket (in record time I might add) and sent us on our way.
I seem to recall reading a report here speculating that whoever owns the yellow taxi concern pays off the police to leave its passengers alone. That certainly seemed to be the case Thursday night. My (non) encounter with the cops stood in sharp contrast to the last time I was in a Taxi Libre and the cops pulled us over for the sole purpose of going through my pockets.
If anybody has more to add on my theory, I'd be interested to read it.
Regards,
Bunky
I think I've had that driver! Got me from the Yellow Cab sitio to the corner of Coahuila y Constitución in about 5 minutes flat. He had me get out on the corner of before the block w/Adelita and HK because the cops were out in full force writing tickets in front of those bars.
On my last several trips to the Zona there have been lots of cops with their ticket books out writing people up -- taxis, cars with California plates, and Baja plates -- like crazy. I've seen tow trucks haul off cars. It seems to me there's been a recent effort by the police to write tickets.
It has been a long time since I've heard TJ's finest have shaken down gringo mongers.
Derekj6926
11-08-09, 13:15
Maybe you are onto something here, I have had better experiences with the older gentlemen who drive the taxis, maybe one should be selective when even choosing a taxi driver..............something to think about..........
I think I've had that driver! Got me from the Yellow Cab sitio to the corner of Coahuila y Constitución in about 5 minutes flat. He had me get out on the corner of before the block w/Adelita and HK because the cops were out in full force writing tickets in front of those bars.
On my last several trips to the Zona there have been lots of cops with their ticket books out writing people up -- taxis, cars with California plates, and Baja plates -- like crazy. I've seen tow trucks haul off cars. It seems to me there's been a recent effort by the police to write tickets.
It has been a long time since I've heard TJ's finest have shaken down gringo mongers.
Item 2:
Similiar to airport taxi pick-up and drop-off in the states. Need a special decal and paying additional fee in the states. If caught a fine in 1000's USD according to the US taxi driver at this particular location for not having the decal or authorized for airport drop-off.
I have had a taxi driver do a drop at Revolution instead of HK on a given day. Yellow cab refused to accept a patron from HK on a given night. No Libre taxi at HK. Both are rare incidents.
Race driver skill common among the young one. Libre taxi driver can really move from Otay to HK via the Airport road. Make sure the seat belt is in working order prior to the trip. I call them "Mario" and they just laugh.
Ticketing for nothing as a shakedown in the current security lockdown ?
An interesting thought.
Item 1:
November 14 event at HK
Hong Kong Gentlemen's Club Hong Kong Gentlemen's Club - Free Boxing - Nov 14th 4/11/2009
Hong Kong Gentlemen's Club - Free Boxing - Nov 14th
From: Hong Kong Gentlemen's Club
Sent: Wednesday, 4 November 2009 8:02:18 p.m.
Manny Pacquiao vs Miguel Cotto
FREE, NO COVER. November 14th / Fights start at 6PM. Come to Hong Kong early, get a great seat, cold beer, and beautiful girl on your lap to enjoy the FREE HBO PPV Championship Boxing match.
Hope someone can tell us about this event.
Boxing & Lap Chica.
Jumped in a yellow taxi Thursday night about 9:30 driven by a kid who thought he was Michael Schumacher. He took the left hand sweeper that leads to the northern part of the city like it was the Blanchimont corner at Spa, then stood on the brakes at the first light like he was setting up for the Parabolica at Monza.
When we made the left onto Coahuila and the Adelita Bar shimmered in the distance I thought my wild ride would soon be over. Unfortunately my driver's lookout discipline was as poor as his driving judgment and a couple of blocks away he blew past several cops who had set up a roadside checkpoint.
A few yards down the road another officer waved us to the curb. Anticipating the customary thorough frisk from an officer hoping to find something to justify a payoff, I sat in the passenger seat fuming about drawing a driver who was such an idiot.
Imagine my surprise when the officers left me alone. Not one approached my side of the taxi, spoke to me, or gave any indication whatsover that they cared about me one little bit. Instead they wrote the driver a ticket (in record time I might add) and sent us on our way.
I seem to recall reading a report here speculating that whoever owns the yellow taxi concern pays off the police to leave its passengers alone. That certainly seemed to be the case Thursday night. My (non) encounter with the cops stood in sharp contrast to the last time I was in a Taxi Libre and the cops pulled us over for the sole purpose of going through my pockets.
If anybody has more to add on my theory, I'd be interested to read it.
Regards,
Bunky
Super Gato
11-09-09, 02:57
I usually always grab the Yellow taxi outside of Adelita when it is time for me to head home. One night the driver complained that about the police and other taxis parked right there in the in the spots outside. He said his boss pays for the concession for Adelita so his guys shouldn't have any trouble. This is why when you take a Yellow taxi the first thing the driver does is get on the radio and says a spot has opened up at Adelas.
Some of you may remember there were signs above the urinals in the bathroom in Adelita about how customers should report Yellow taxi drivers that try and tell you Adelita is closed or other scams. I guess that's been worked out.
Official taxi sitios are licensed by the city (or worked out by the local taxi mafia depending on what city you're in) and only cars from that company can collect fares there (you'll notice on the cars which sitio a taxi belongs to). A taxi can drop a patron off anywhere. And any taxi can collect a fare that flags him down in the street (trouble happens when they flag too close to a sitio with a taxi waiting... fights break out).
And Sound7's American taxi driver buddy is probably incorrect about part. In every town I've ever been in on the planet, any taxi can drop you off at the airport. However, in most cities you have to pay for the airport permit for the privilege of picking up customers. In places like Monterrey and DF it is pretty obvious since you need to pre-pay and you ride in specially marked airport taxis. In some places people will opt to skip the long line at the taxi line at the arrivals area of the airport and go to the departure area and try and get a taxi there as they drop off a fare. Almost everywhere that's a big no-no as only people with the concession can pick up passengers.
I know way more than I should about taxis, but then again, I've probably logged thousands of miles in Mexican taxis going from the border to the zonas throughout the Republic.
Item 2:
Similiar to airport taxi pick-up and drop-off in the states. Need a special decal and paying additional fee in the states. If caught a fine in 1000's USD according to the US taxi driver at this particular location for not having the decal or authorized for airport drop-off.
I have had a taxi driver do a drop at Revolution instead of HK on a given day. Yellow cab refused to accept a patron from HK on a given night. No Libre taxi at HK. Both are rare incidents.
Race driver skill common among the young one. Libre taxi driver can really move from Otay to HK via the Airport road. Make sure the seat belt is in working order prior to the trip. I call them "Mario" and they just laugh.
Ticketing for nothing as a shakedown in the current security lockdown ? A interesting thought.
LAX:
Yellow Cab taxi or lemo service to LAX drop-off to avoid the a stiff fine. Lemo service same price as yellow cab.
Festa cab service drop-off on Century blvd and not LAX terminal. No entry permit.
JKT:
Same thing happened at Jakata Airport, refused entry to the terminal by security. Not an airport taxi, just a city taxi. A critical departure situation. This was not a fun situation.
HK:
HK informal concession with Libra taxi. The white and red color one at the door.
$5 USD to linea (border) Yellow or white taxi. Yellow with radio dispatch or Libra with a cell phone dispatch.
Libra taxi in front of HK. it is free with the coupon.
Super Gato
11-10-09, 03:04
LAX:
Yellow Cab taxi or lemo service to LAX drop-off to avoid the a stiff fine. Lemo service same price as yellow cab.
I've always had a rental car at LAX and never had a need to hire a 'lemo service'.
Lemo works out to be the same price as Yellow cab or a rental car price.
I've always had a rental car at LAX and never had a need to hire a 'lemo service'.
SuperSteve
11-10-09, 07:42
I was in Tijuana Friday-Sunday.
It was very crowded. The line to get through the turnstiles was about 200 feet long, for both gates.
I took the yellow cab to my hotel on Ave. Revo, $5.00 with no problems.
Adelita's was typically crowded, but as my wing man stated, hottie central seems to have broken up. The ladies are moving more now. I sessioned with two ladies, both were very good sessions. Sorry don't remember their names. One is one of the dancers who is a GND cutie, with a petite, not flaca, body, with nice B-cup naturals. The other was with a 25 y. O., 6-7 in looks, but GFE type experience. Many new ladies in the house, some VGL. It pays to get to know the waiters. Saturday night after the tacos at the corner, we came back in and the waiter asks if we want a table. I look around and all are taken. He goes up to a guy at one of the tables behind hottie central, makes him move, and gives us the table.
Hong Kong was very crowded. As someone else said, the air either wasn't working, or couldn't handle the crowd. It was very hot. It was also said that there weren't many good looking ladies. I thought for the HK there were more than usual. Not as many sash girls, but for the most part they are young and pretty. Twice each night I had the tequila shots (about 3+) for five dollars. They had shaving cream shows going on at many of the stages.
Tropical was way too loud, with no talent. We stayed less than ten minutes. In that time they had brought over two different groups of gorditas wanting us to buy them drinks. No thanks.
Chavelas was busy, but no diamond in the rough.
Chicago was typical for early in the night. About twenty women, four of them good looking, and doable, but very few men. We never made it back, but I think the CC has become the sleeper club in the Zona. There is always a place to sit, the music is at a level to still converse, and some VGL ladies sitting at the bar. I would say go after ten.
We went to several of the other Local clubs on the block. No diamonds in the rough there, but most offer two for one drinks.
We went to the Hotel Nelson for breakfast. Coffee and the Desayuno Nelson (ham, eggs, and pancakes) about five bucks.
Went to Viva Mex for a massage on Saturday afternoon. We talked them down to $35.00 for an hour. Decent massage with no happy ending, nor even come close to the boys. Still after a night of drinking and standing it was worth it.
It didn't seem like there were as many street girls out this trip.
The policia was out in force. On Saturday there were about 20 motorcycle officers driving around the Zona. On Sunday same amount of motor police, along with cars, and foot patrols. They didn't seem to be bothering gringo's, unless they were driving. It seemed like they were really cracking down on the locals. I wouldn't suggest driving down there for a while. They seemed to be pulling over cabs, and cars with California plates.
Health & happiness to all.
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Super Gato
11-11-09, 04:30
I was in Tijuana Friday-Sunday.
Hong Kong was very crowded. As someone else said, the air either wasn't working, or couldn't handle the crowd. It was very hot.
I'm always hot in the clubs. I've found our Mexican amigos (like everyone in else in the world) will usually keep the AC at a higher temp than we gringos have come accustomed to so there's that. Plus when HK gets crowded all of those warm people will tax the HVAC. Plus, the clientes will drink faster and thus more when they're hot.
Because of that I will seek out the places of best ventilation. In HK, it is near the little bar on the second floor near the center stairs. Stand there and you get a decent view of the show downstairs, the show upstairs if there is one going on, and sweet sweet aire condicionado (when it is on). In Adelita it is in the back of Hottie Central (but they'll turn their air on only if it is hotter than the sun inside, this time of year I stick near the door to not overheat). Chicago is rarely crowded. They actually have little streamers on their AC vents in the back and so you can tell if the AC is on.
Yes, I spend way too much time in the bars.
It does help encourage the chicas to wear skimpier outfits or gstring bikinis on the floor without worrying about getting cold so I dont mind a bit!
Derekj6926
11-12-09, 00:24
I can't help but marvel that my life seems to have come to the point that I endure life and work till I can save enough money to get back to Tijuana and be with another fabulous Chica. It is an amazing experience of anticipation when you first arrive in TJ and walk into the Zona Norte knowing that you have days planned in TJ and how you are going to do this and that, some things differently than in the past, on the bottom of that list is the Taco stand on the corner going to CC. Each time I go I have found that it is the surprises you get that makes it a wonderful experience, each time I have gone to TJ there is some Chica that comes out of no where that I did not expect to make my trip very memorable. Each time I go back I usually see one or two of the ones I enjoyed. Sometimes when seemingly woody can do no more I take them to the room to just spend some time with them without sex but it usually ends up very physically intimate especially when you tell them you just want to spend some time with them.
Does anyone have a SW or other Chica you trust enough that will go out to dinner with you and spend the night with you at your hotel at a reasonable price? If you do please let me know where to look for them and what the name is. Only a few more weeks and I will be back prowling the Zona Norte on the hunt for some wonderful poon tang.
A question I have is, and always wonder about is when I read about how some dare to go bare back with some of these Chicas knowing that you could be number ten that day??? Has anyone ever had a bad experience with bare back in TJ, I definitely have considered it and have had the rubber come off a time or two but certainly not intentional.
Same here. Barely get thru the work week to go to Tijuana on Saturday. I got laid more in the last couple of months than in the 31 years before that. Trying not to go every weekend and failing miserably so far.
I can't help but marvel that my life seems to have come to the point that I endure life and work till
Does anyone have a SW or other Chica you trust enough that will go out to dinner with you and spend the night with you at your hotel at a reasonable price? If you do please let me know where to look for them and what the name is. Only a few more weeks and I will be back prowling the Zona Norte on the hunt for some wonderful poon tang.
A question I have is, and always wonder about is when I read about how some dare to go bare back with some of these Chicas knowing that you could be number ten that day??? Has anyone ever had a bad experience with bare back in TJ, I definitely have considered it and have had the rubber come off a time or two but certainly not intentional.
It's not terribly difficult to get a BG to spend the night with you. If she's not living with her kids, parents, whatever, then chances are better. But a reasonable price may be more of a challenge. You really need to cultivate a relationship with your intended. Several repeats, maybe a day-off rendezvous, things to get her more comfortable with you. Then you should be able to TLN for a reasonable sum.
Some guys on the boards talk big, others apparently have a death wish. BBFS with a TJ chica you hardly know is just asking for trouble. The odds are in your favor, HIV-wise, but, IMHO, the risk of other bugs is just not worth it.
DJ FourMoney
11-12-09, 07:55
It's not terribly difficult to get a BG to spend the night with you. If she's not living with her kids, parents, whatever, then chances are better. But a reasonable price may be more of a challenge. You really need to cultivate a relationship with your intended. Several repeats, maybe a day-off rendezvous, things to get her more comfortable with you. Then you should be able to TLN for a reasonable sum.
Some guys on the boards talk big, others apparently have a death wish. BBFS with a TJ chica you hardly know is just asking for trouble. The odds are in your favor, HIV-wise, but, IMHO, the risk of other bugs is just not worth it.
I concur, I got a number of a chica I did. She was willing to spend the night even though she had kids. She's a bit older than I would like however so I didn't take her up on her offer.
Then again I haven't been back since earlier this summer and now I can afford to go but a cold has hit me pretty good, one of my rare moments I actually get sick.
Maybe if it clears up a bit more, I can waste a few dollars, but I still think I can do $100 run, we shall see.
Dobinator1
11-13-09, 05:13
Up until now, my adventures have been in S. E. Asia, but with some extra mileage points, I figured it was time to check out Tijuana. I planned on a one day down and back from the bay area, because of time constraints, some concerns about spending too much time in Tijuana, given all the safety concerns, and just wanting to get a quick intro to the monger scene south of the border. First off, I would say, don't do it if you don't have a free flight, otherwise it is not cost effective at all.
Left the bay area at around noon, got to San Diego, jumped on the 992 bus and the trolley, and was at the border at 2:30. A quick $5 taxi ride (sitting in the front seat, and telling the driver several times "yes I know the place you recommend is much better, but I am meeting someone at Adelitas so I need to go there"), and I was through the curtain into Adelitas. I got a drink at the bar and wandered around a few times, there were no dancers on stage, but enough of a selection hanging around. Some were not at all interested, a few tried to catch my eye, but they didn't fit the profile I was looking for, which was as opposite the asian spinners I am used to as possible.
After a stroll around, I sat down at a table, and within a minute was approached by Catarina (sp?). I didn't spend a lot of time on the preliminaries, we quickly agreed on $50 and upstairs we went. She was very proud of her rock hard, enhanced boobs, repeatedly showing them off, and saying "operacion". Not my thing, but remember I was looking to try something very different. I did like her rear end a lot and made good use of it. We did the better parts of the alphabet of sex. Nothing remarkable, but at least I was satisfied.
We parted ways coming out of the hotel. I was ready to check off the next thing on my tijuana "bucket list" and that was for some street food. I went around the block once, and was a little leery, but then I recalled some of the comments on this forum, and went for it. Ate at a taco stand at the corner, and glad I did. They were excellent!
Recharged, I took another walk around, focusing on the SW's. Found one to my liking, upstairs to a much dingier room, and $25 later I checked off my third and last goal for the day. Taxi back to the border, a brief wait in line, and nice talk with the immigration guy "sightseeing and lunch" and headed back north. Got back to the airport around 6:30. In plenty of time for my 8 pm flight back to the Bay area.
All in all a very enjoyable day, and I'll definitely be back down and will try the other clubs as well next time. Tijuana does have a more insecure vibe than most places I've been to in SE Asia. I never wanted to stray far from the main drag, and there was, even in the afternoon a strong police presence that had some red head guy up against the wall. Plus there appeared to be a lot of muscle hanging out in front of the clubs. There also weren't too many places to just hang out and people watch other than the clubs while you are recharging your batteries.
Travelling Guy
11-13-09, 23:15
MAKING THE PLAN:
I had been thinking of taking a trip to TJ for some time but had not been able to make time for it. A quick one-day meeting with a client in San Diego was incentive enough to do it. Picked up my passport, booked the Marriott in TJ, a morning meeting in SD followed by taking the client out for lunch and I was driving down I-5 to the border at 2:00 in the afternoon.
THE DRIVE:
Decided to take the San Ysidro Blvd exit (the one before last US exit) to change into some Pesos. Exchanged $120 @ 12.88 pesos to a dollar, drove to the parking behind Jack in the Box and took the famous walk towards the turnstiles. Got to the yellow cab area, asked to be taken to Marriott. He asked for $10 and on being told I always pay $6, he quickly agreed. Checked into Marriott and called the agency at WizdomEscorts that I had been wanting to try. Don answered the call and I asked him if he could get a girl to me in 30 minutes and he said he will. Checked into the room and took a hot shower. Called Don 45 minutes later to check on the girl and on being told she was running late, ordered a couple of beers in room and put on some TV. Knock on the door finally and Don was there with the girl. Paid him $120 for a couple of hours he left.
THE ESCORT EXPERIENCE:
Saw the girl and I was already getting a boner! 18-20 yr old with brown hair, 100lbs, 5' 3" who greets you with DFK - how can you not like this! Offered her a beer but she just wanted a soda so ordered another beer and a soda from room service. Tried some small talk but it was a challenge given my Spanish and her English as we tried to fondle each other with my tongue down her throat. Signed for the room service, enjoyed our drinks playing with each other and moved on to the bed where I enjoyed an amazing slow BBBJ. She kept alternating between bringing her young perky boobs to my mouth and back to slow BBBJ which is how I had my first pop. Finished our drinks and I suggested a quick shower and she gave me another slow BBBJ in the shower to get me hard, we moved back to bed where I started with MISH and between that position and having my tongue in her throat, I had my second pop! She went to bathroom to clean herself and came back with towel to clean me and we snuggled in the bed caressing each other and watching videos/playing with my iPhone. She offered to give me a massage and I gladly accepted. Her massage skills were average at best but that was not what she was in the room for anyway! I offered to return the favor and enjoyed caressing her young tight body gradually leading to more snuggling and me asking her to get on top and she rode this cowboy like there was no tomorrow! 10 minutes of riding and we moved to doggy and pumped for another 10 minuted in that tight pussy when I recieved a call from Don reminding me politely that I can ask the girl to come down whenever she is ready. I had totally lost track of mind and realized it was 10 minutes over 2 hrs and kept pumping for another 5 minutes and busted my third nut. We both washed and got ready and I walked her to Don in the lobby and thanked him for his recommendation!
SERVICE: GFE, TIME: 2 Hrs+, POPS: 3, DAMAGE: $120, TIP:100pesos($10)
Will definitely repeat soon!
Took a shower and then used the free internet in room to reply to a couple of business emails. Printed a couple of coupons for HongKong club using the business center in hotel and got a cab to HongKong (100 pesos).
THE HONG KONG CLUB:
The cab took me from the alley side entrance and I was not asked for any cover charge/drink. Walked to the bar and ordered a dos equis. Enjoyed the shaving cream show from the tip rail and got to fondle T&A for $1 tip! This club is better than just about all clubs I have been to in southern California and every bit as nice as the best ones in Vegas - except everything is less than a third of Vegas prices! Multiple levels, at least 5 to 7 girls dancing at anytime including the ones on bar-counters/spotlight stages, a 1:1 girl to guys ratio. Tipped a few of $1 to different girls and for the dollar tip you get either a 10-second grind or get to fondle tits and ass for that tip! Found a girl on spotlight that I tipped $2 and she came and sat in my lap and started caressing my Jr, ordered her a drink(Tequila) and the server tried to tag a bag of chips with it (as has been reported on the forum) but picked it back up when I hand motioned him to take it back. The girl gave me a nice grind and kept caressing/biting my ear to get me in the mood. Asked her to give me privado (private dance) which was half off ($10 instead of regular $20) using the coupon I had printed and lasts 2 songs. The dance was decent, nothing out of the ordinary but not lame either and it atleast got me in the mood. Decided to check the alley to take care of the boner!
THE ALLEY:
Got out of the lobby and passed though a few girls till I saw the one that looked the best and started negotiating with her. Her name was Nancy and she offered the 200pesos basic no-frills package. I asked her for sin-ropa (without clothes), BJ and multi-position and she would not budge lower than 400pesos. Agreed to it, paid 60pesos to the hotel and we were in the love-shack! She takes her off her clothes to reveal a solid 9 body that got me even harder. She starts with a slow CBJ that was good, not BBBJ but still very good! A good 5 minutes of CBJ and we started with her on top and the girls pussy nice and tight, having busted 3 nuts already I loved me taking my time with this one. 10 minutes of CG and she suggested DG. Edge of the bed DG and it was a beautiful sight seeing that shapely booty and my Jr stretching that super tight pussy! She finally put some lube on her fingers and started caressing my balls in that position that finally made me cum. Cleaned up, put my clothes on, she gave me a kiss on my cheek/edge of lips and I walked back to HK.
SERVICE : Decent but super hot body, TIME: 20 minutes, DAMAGE : 460pesos
Repeatable!
TACOS AND BACK:
Asked the HK masero for taco recommendations and walked to the ones he recommended. 3 Tacos(that's the same as 6 tacos anywhere else north of the border!) and a Coke, 48 pesos total. Paid the lady 50 pesos and walked through HK to other side and took a yellow cab from front of Adelitas to the hotel ($6). Slept for 3 hours and checked out at 4:45AM taking a cab to the border (70 pesos) and crossed back without any issues.
I think I drove from San Diego with $500 in my pocket and came back with $250 (hotel was on CreditCard), 4 pops and a very big smile on my face!
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Travelling Guy
11-14-09, 02:31
Here is a quick map of where Nancy mentioned in my post stands.
On another note, a question for TJ veterans - who are the best night time Alley Girls in your opinion (and where in the alley do they usually stand)?
THE ALLEY:
Got out of the lobby and passed though a few girls till I saw the one that looked the best and started negotiating with her. Her name was Nancy and she offered the 200pesos basic no-frills package. I asked her for sin-ropa (without clothes), BJ and multi-position and she would not budge lower than 400pesos. Agreed to it, paid 60pesos to the hotel and we were in the love-shack! She takes her off her clothes to reveal a solid 9 body that got me even harder. She starts with a slow CBJ that was good, not BBBJ but still very good! A good 5 minutes of CBJ and we started with her on top and the girls pussy nice and tight, having busted 3 nuts already I loved me taking my time with this one. 10 minutes of CG and she suggested DG. Edge of the bed DG and it was a beautiful sight seeing that shapely booty and my Jr stretching that super tight pussy! She finally put some lube on her fingers and started caressing my balls in that position that finally made me cum. Cleaned up, put my clothes on, she gave me a kiss on my cheek/edge of lips and I walked back to HK.
SERVICE : Decent but super hot body, TIME: 20 minutes, DAMAGE : 460pesos
Repeatable!
Great report!
Welcome to the forum.
Do you have the name of your escort from Wizdom?
Great report!
Welcome to the forum.
Do you have the name of your escort from Wizdom?
Even better I'd love to get the contact info of the escort service "Wizdom" he used for $120/2hrs.
Is "Don" reachable by internet ?
Even better I'd love to get the contact info of the escort service "Wizdom" he used for $120/2hrs.
Is "Don" reachable by internet ?
Google "wizdom escorts tijuana" . The site and contact info will be there.
Google "wizdom escorts tijuana" . The site and contact info will be there.
Thanks. From what I see this looks like a great deal as long as all the extras (bbbj,daty,dfk) are included in the price.
I will definately have to check them out next time I am down there.
Derekj6926
11-14-09, 22:48
If anyone can review each of these it would be great, just read the nice review on Wizdom Escorts but any insight would be appreciated.
Wizdom Escorts http://wizdomescorts.com/vip1.html
Fiesta Models http://www.fiestamodels.com/lineuperotic/eroticlineup-01.htm
Hot Tijuana http://www.hottijuana.net/Chicas.html
Thanks. From what I see this looks like a great deal as long as all the extras (bbbj,daty,dfk) are included in the price.
I will definately have to check them out next time I am down there.
I would suggest reading the "Tijuana Escorts" thread. I believe some of those, and others, have been reviewed there. Cheers!
If anyone can review each of these it would be great, just read the nice review on Wizdom Escorts but any insight would be appreciated.
Wizdom Escorts http://wizdomescorts.com/vip1.html
Fiesta Models http://www.fiestamodels.com/lineuperotic/eroticlineup-01.htm
Hot Tijuana http://www.hottijuana.net/Chicas.html
LPAA Tijuana Chapter
No Denial ! On to Step 2
Congratulation on Step 1.
I have not been to TJ in about 3 years. I am looking for bars with transgender women or large women. I like the big hairy mexican women, do you have any suggestions? One more thing! Should I change my dollars into pesos to get better value and if so, do I do this in the USA or in TJ?
Thanks
Bunch of money changers on the US side on San Ysidro blvd have pretty good rates. Look for 'no commission' cause they can charge a hefty commission.
Sometimes paying in pesos when your very drunk or stoned can be fairly risky trying to figure out the math in your head late at night... " She said 800 pesos I countered 600 then she said 750 hmmm how much is that in dollars again? I really do want to bang her.. lol..."
Belgrath,
Great observation, many a night I have spent in t. J. And in my stupor and all my pride and glory been offered 900 pesos, oh man what a deal, lets do it hunny. As you have done this before when the next day you say what the heck happened to my monies.
Must have been a great time I figured, because that is all I could complain about as much as I can remember.
Try to remember these numbers can surely mess you up when you are messed up. I do not do this to much anymore as I have gotten older. Damn.
Still have to love that muff.
Happy hunting (aka love-muff)
DJ FourMoney
11-16-09, 22:44
Belgrath,
Great observation, many a night I have spent in t. J. And in my stupor and all my pride and glory been offered 900 pesos, oh man what a deal, lets do it hunny. As you have done this before when the next day you say what the heck happened to my monies.
Must have been a great time I figured, because that is all I could complain about as much as I can remember.
Try to remember these numbers can surely mess you up when you are messed up. I do not do this to much anymore as I have gotten older. Damn.
Still have to love that muff.
Happy hunting (aka love-muff)
I did 900 pesos once and ended up paying another $50US to finish.... That came out to around $130US! That's way too much... Roughly an hour.
That's about $78US@12.995 exchange
I feel much better, no coughing, no sniffles!
Now the problem is schedule. I'm trying to save my cash reserve for Black Friday Laptop, but we get paid this week. Next day off is Wed I believe, I might wait until next week, I dunno.
Porn is getting old....
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Porn is getting old....
Yeah one thing to be watching a porno with some pretty girl slurping on some guys dick looking at the camera and a whole nother thing to have it happen to you with the chica slurping on your dick and making eyes to you. Or AB's hotel with the mirrored headboards so you can watch yourself hump too. Chicago clubs hotel's rooms often have porno going on those old tv's so you get a double dose of female moaning...
Fiesta ModelsThere have been a lot of flinging the "scam" word on this website. It's actually not an agency, he bills it as an adult directory. On Craigslist some people were saying he simply just steals girls' photos and then posts up their contact information gleaned from CL.
I would give it a wide berth.
DJ FourMoney
11-17-09, 12:24
Yeah one thing to be watching a porno with some pretty girl slurping on some guys dick looking at the camera and a whole nother thing to have it happen to you with the chica slurping on your dick and making eyes to you. Or AB's hotel with the mirrored headboards so you can watch yourself hump too. Chicago clubs hotel's rooms often have porno going on those old tv's so you get a double dose of female moaning...
LOL, AB though repeats might get different results; I have went once, had two, last one was a mercy fuck in a way, she kept begging me to take her up. Not that cute but spoke good English. Mira (I believe that's her name) has a body to die for, kind of mechanical but at least she didn't stop be from banging her deeply. So maybe a 2nd visit might be better...
I'm kind focused on the "$100 trip" to see if I can come in under a C note.
Scroll down for details :)
LOL, AB though repeats might get different results; I have went once, had two, last one was a mercy fuck in a way, she kept begging me to take her up. Not that cute but spoke good English. Mira (I believe that's her name) has a body to die for, kind of mechanical but at least she didn't stop be from banging her deeply. So maybe a 2nd visit might be better...
I'm kind focused on the "$100 trip" to see if I can come in under a C note.
Scroll down for details :)
If a girl you havent done before runs up and starts beggin for arriba, my 'shark alert' really goes up. If shes good looking even more since maybe shes a rip off or mediocre upstairs and other guys dont want to repeat with her. If shes really hot maybe a so-so trophy fuck would be worth it to point out to your buddies later.. 'yah I hit that'.
Definitely would pay more attention during the interview and would act interested and maybe let my hands roam a little and see how she reacts or touches back in response (especially if I then bought her 1 drink if she passes the first step (chatting)).
DJ FourMoney
11-17-09, 19:41
If a girl you havent done before runs up and starts beggin for arriba, my 'shark alert' really goes up. If shes good looking even more since maybe shes a rip off or mediocre upstairs and other guys dont want to repeat with her. If shes really hot maybe a so-so trophy fuck would be worth it to point out to your buddies later.. 'yah I hit that'.
Definitely would pay more attention during the interview and would act interested and maybe let my hands roam a little and see how she reacts or touches back in response (especially if I then bought her 1 drink if she passes the first step (chatting)).
Well the not so cute one begged but I think it was because "she wasn't so cute", not because service was bad. Service was good about as much as one would expect. I could do what I want, minus kissing and anal. I just wasn't interested in doing much more than fucking...
I wasn't fully prepared that time either and I had a wingman who was too busy getting drunk...
I think its best for me to go alone unless I bump into a fellow ISG'er
Super Gato
11-17-09, 21:16
Yeah one thing to be watching a porno with some pretty girl slurping on some guys dick looking at the camera and a whole nother thing to have it happen to you with the chica slurping on your dick and making eyes to you. Or AB's hotel with the mirrored headboards so you can watch yourself hump too. Chicago clubs hotel's rooms often have porno going on those old tv's so you get a double dose of female moaning...
Some of the rooms on Adelita Bar's hotel on the third floor have TVs in them with porno so you can have both the mirror on the headboard and the pron experience too. The TVs also get the bar's dance floor in security cam quality if you want to see that. 3rd floor rooms are usually for allnight guests but on weekends when the girls are bringing guys up nonstop they'll put people up there. I left the TV off while I was up there preferring the real live action happening on the bed.
Derekj6926
11-17-09, 21:18
The man Belgrath gives some really good advice below, trust me after having made dozens of trips in these clubs and have experienced exactly what he warns off. Do as he says and you will get a much better bang for your buck!
Originally Posted by Belgrath
If a girl you havent done before runs up and starts beggin for arriba, my 'shark alert' really goes up. If shes good looking even more since maybe shes a rip off or mediocre upstairs and other guys dont want to repeat with her. If shes really hot maybe a so-so trophy fuck would be worth it to point out to your buddies later.. 'yah I hit that'.
Definitely would pay more attention during the interview and would act interested and maybe let my hands roam a little and see how she reacts or touches back in response (especially if I then bought her 1 drink if she passes the first step (chatting)).
Super Gato
11-17-09, 21:47
The man Belgrath gives some really good advice below, trust me after having made dozens of trips in these clubs and have experienced exactly what he warns off. Do as he says and you will get a much better bang for your buck!
Originally Posted by Belgrath
If a girl you havent done before runs up and starts beggin for arriba, my 'shark alert' really goes up. If shes good looking even more since maybe shes a rip off or mediocre upstairs and other guys dont want to repeat with her. If shes really hot maybe a so-so trophy fuck would be worth it to point out to your buddies later.. 'yah I hit that'.
Definitely would pay more attention during the interview and would act interested and maybe let my hands roam a little and see how she reacts or touches back in response (especially if I then bought her 1 drink if she passes the first step (chatting)).
In bars like Adelita, Chicago and HK, if the girl comes up to me at all I'm immediately suspicious. Many of them I do the approach or send a mesero over to fetch her for me. Most of the time the girls the will go from guy to guy hitting them up versus waiting to be picked out are the ones that are older/uglier/fatter/etc -- especially at Chicago. Shudder. Over at Adelita the girls that will come up to me will often come offering extras in their opening pitch like BBBJ and a $40 price tag. But many of these girls I wouldn't do for free.
I know it isn't gentlemanly to tell a girl you're not interested, but this isn't the high school fall dance. You don't have to be a dick about it, but tell her you're not interested. I think a lot of those 3rd stringers make most of their money from guys that are too timid to say no. Every girl in the bar will bang you, you don't have to settle.
I will always invest the $7.50 for the ficha drink to see how she is and if I don't feel any magic I'll say hasta luego. I'd rather waste $7 on a drink than the $60+$12+$1 "teeeps mr" room guy. So far I've not been disappointed on my countless trips arriba in TJ. Part of it is setting expectations. I don't expect GFE, but a PSE with a girl that wants me as a repeat. I have about 10 girls at AB, 4 at Chicago and 6 at Hong Kong I have on my repeat list. They'll all rock my world. When I go down there I like to have a few chicas a night, at a new girl or two and a favorita or two. Last weekend I ended up with 100% repeats with girls that after a few sessions remember what I like and didn't disappoint.
Country John
11-17-09, 21:48
The best way to deal with a shark or a suspected shark is to be as direct as they are.
For example: if the girl approaches you and you don't have "hello" out yet before she starts selling you on an arriba, then tell her it' not a very good sign when the girl wants arriba without a friendly chat first and a squeeze test.
Tell her this behavior usually means that she insists on the money up front, doesn't want to please her client with a great session, tries to get her client to blow early and does other things to turn the session into a real shit pot of an experience.
Then ask her if she thinks she would that way if you took her up. Ask her how she would be different than one of these "other" girls.
Tell her that "some girls" just lay there and don't participate in the session; you're not looking for that kind of action. Ask her if she does that in the room. Then tell her that the price is for HER to fuck YOU, not the other way around. See what color she turns.
If the girl knows that you know the score, she'll probably show her true colors by walking away; she knows you're not going to take a bad session lightly.
AB is not a giggle-hut. It's a place where business transactions take place. She is not as interested in basking in the after-glow with you at her side post session as she is in getting back on the floor. You don't want to spend the rest of the evening regretting a bad session with a "trophy" fuck. Keep your head on straight and qualify the girl - don't be stupid. If she doesn't come across with the right answers, let her finish her drink and the kick her lose. Better yet, kick her lose with the drink, you have no more time to waste on her.
Not sessioning a bad session is smart because it saves you money, time, aggravation etc.
Now: how well can you do that and have fun at the same time?
Be Safe And Be Nice.
Country John
So tommorow I got a morning trip to TJ to pick up a friend around noon. I basically got from 10-12 to find some action. Anyone got some advice? I'm not even sure there is any action going on so early in the day.
The Tall Man
11-18-09, 04:25
Great advice Country John, I could not have said it any better. Any time I stray from the protocol of sellecting a girl, be it at AB/CC/HK, it reminds me that this is a P4P business transaction only. I am always better off for it.
Be Safe,
The Tall Man
Thanks for the great advice Country John. Nothing like being honest and upfront with them.
The best way to deal with a shark or a suspected shark is to be as direct as they are.
For example: if the girl approaches you and you don't have "hello" out yet before she starts selling you on an arriba, then tell her it' not a very good sign when the girl wants arriba without a friendly chat first and a squeeze test.
Tell her this behavior usually means that she insists on the money up front, doesn't want to please her client with a great session, tries to get her client to blow early and does other things to turn the session into a real shit pot of an experience.
Then ask her if she thinks she would that way if you took her up. Ask her how she would be different than one of these "other" girls.
Tell her that "some girls" just lay there and don't participate in the session; you're not looking for that kind of action. Ask her if she does that in the room. Then tell her that the price is for HER to fuck YOU, not the other way around. See what color she turns.
If the girl knows that you know the score, she'll probably show her true colors by walking away; she knows you're not going to take a bad session lightly.
AB is not a giggle-hut. It's a place where business transactions take place. She is not as interested in basking in the after-glow with you at her side post session as she is in getting back on the floor. You don't want to spend the rest of the evening regretting a bad session with a "trophy" fuck. Keep your head on straight and qualify the girl - don't be stupid. If she doesn't come across with the right answers, let her finish her drink and the kick her lose. Better yet, kick her lose with the drink, you have no more time to waste on her.
Not sessioning a bad session is smart because it saves you money, time, aggravation etc.
Now: how well can you do that and have fun at the same time?
Be Safe And Be Nice.
Country John
Country John
11-18-09, 18:19
So tommorow I got a morning trip to TJ to pick up a friend around noon. I basically got from 10-12 to find some action. Anyone got some advice? I'm not even sure there is any action going on so early in the day.
Maybe I'm a bit late in posting this for you, but don't worry; the Zona is open 24 hours a day 7 days a week.
Country John
11-18-09, 19:01
Great advice Country John, I could not have said it any better. Any time I stray from the protocol of sellecting a girl, be it at AB/CC/HK, it reminds me that this is a P4P business transaction only. I am always better off for it.
Be Safe,
The Tall Man
I've had my share of "ups and downs" too, but what I developed was a mannerism where I could do all of that and be a nice guy too. After all, it's a good time and you should have fun with it.
I guaranfuckintee you that there are no shortages of girls out there. Go up when it feel right and your girl passed the squeeze test.
Country John
I've had my share of "ups and downs" too, but what I developed was a mannerism where I could do all of that and be a nice guy too. After all, it's a good time and you should have fun with it.
I guaranfuckintee you that there are no shortages of girls out there. Go up when it feel right and your girl passed the squeeze test.
Country John
After a few years you will get the hang of it. After several years you will feel like a mind reader.
It takes me all of one minute or less to size up a chica these days. Sometimes I can tell just by observing them.
FunBoy1133
11-18-09, 20:47
I love larger women and TJ does have its share. Does anyone know where I could find some big women in TJ?
I love larger women and TJ does have its share. Does anyone know where I could find some big women in TJ?
There is an absolutely stunning "mama" at HK club. I have no idea what her name is but her body was to die for.
She was there almost every night I was there.
Besides her there are some street walkers who fit your bill.
Las Chavales is known for having + sized women often (aka Las Chubbies). Usually not too tall though.
Country John
11-23-09, 19:44
Every morning, very early, entire families come to town from the various ranchos and colonias that lie in the outskirts of Tijuana. These are places without sewers, electricity and most without running water. Most are unemployed and some are very old while others are very young.
They are the poorest of the poor, socio-economic outcasts in an already depressed economy that was already way behind the times in the best of times.
They come to town to sell gum, do acrobatics in the intersections during your red light, sell baked goods, pottery, plaster castings; just about everything you could imagine.
Some come down at night to commit crimes. They do the same bad things that bad people in the USA do.
The people who come down to sell wares (vendadores abulantes) work all day and well into the night. The little kids you see at the border would belong to this group. I've spoken to guys and girls in their 30's who literally grew up selling shit at the border; they tell me they remember their parents doing it when they were very very young kids. They were taught how to keep from getting run over. They are better able to handle rejection than anyone in the world IMHO.
Living in TJ you get to see much more than you would if you stick to the Zona Norte. IN many areas of TJ, groups of these families work to feed themselves and it is a family affair. It's worth pointing out that on many occasions I chatted with girlies that you could put on stage at AB; they were flat out gorgeous.
At night (late), they pile into the back of a pickup truck, van or car and head back to their rancho to sleep, then the whole thing starts again the next day. There are no holidays, no vacations etc. This tradition spans generations; entire lifetimes.
I learned that they are people too. They don't mean harm, they don't want to inconvenience, they don't have evil on their minds. Most don't ask for money for nothing; there is usually some sort of exchange involved, like candy, gum soda, flowers etc.
They are more certain about their future than most of us are. They are more secure than most of us and even though their quality of living is worse than most of us could imagine, their quality of life is healthier. They bear their burdens with a level of acceptance and nobility that Americans could well learn from. They are polite, kind and courteous, they are respectful and accommodating. They are interesting to talk to and they work at least 3 times harder than you and I.
So when they walk in front of you in the line at the border selling their stuff or juggling their tennis balls with their kids running around as steam rises from the mobile cooking carts and the banda music blares in the background; just remember you are sitting in the middle of a tradition that's a lot older than you are. Appreciate that and show some respect. If all these people had run down from the hills to club yo to death then it would be a different story, of course, but the opposite is the case. Respect them for what they do, but admire them for what they don't do. They are not on a criminal flow, they believe in a fair exchange and they take advantage of an opportunity to make money; something else Americans could well learn from.
Regarding propinas or tips, my rule is that "If you got it, give it." If you don't got it, smile and tell them so. Just don't forget to smile.
Country John
Puts the cum mopper's gripes into perspective eh?
Nice report CJ. Although not all are part of that tribe. Some I've met admitted having once been americans with too many strikes resulting in deportation and now a life of hawking cheesy wares, shinning shoes etc.
Country John
11-24-09, 18:54
Nice report CJ. Although not all are part of that tribe. Some I've met admitted having once been americans with too many strikes resulting in deportation and now a life of hawking cheesy wares, shinning shoes etc.
Very true. The greater distance away from the Zona or El Centro the less you find deportees etc. and the more family type situations you see. I once stopped at a light only to have an absolutely beautiful Morena offer to sell me gum which I of course bought. I mean, she was fucking beautiful.
If I didn't already have one at home I would have talked to her a bit more. She was very nice and chatty.
Pokey's post, below, appears to be a rant and a venting of a common frustration here; the impression Americans give of Mexicans is one of them being second class citizens from a 3rd world country.
Fortunately for me, I was able to actually witness a lot of that first hand both here in Mexico and State-side. Fortunately for me I was able to see first hand the reality of the situation.
My take is that some Americans can't let Mexicans be who they really are because Americans don't know who they really are. The "great experiment" that is the democracy of the United States has led Americans down many roads over the past couple hundred years; none of them seemed to have led to a place where a sense of common decency and a basic respect for who people really are exists at the end of that road. And that's a pity.
The socio-economic situation created by Americans in their own country has cut them off from the fruits of observation. They fucked up their economy so bad that many fear for their own future. Many are not capable of experiencing this culture, it's traditions and customs anyway. It also made them very insensitive to the plight of their neighbors to the south because they've created such a fucking mess in their own country that they can't think of anyone's basic welfare besides their own. This despite allowing their government to send billions of their dollars in aid to countries that could care less about them.
Americans will continue to behave badly however, and there is not much of anything that can be done about it. Perhaps a few shifts selling gum at the border would help, I dunno.
I think it's a pity that the "greatest nation on earth" can't develop a mechanism to address the issues that involve their relationship with Mexico. I am surprised that they are more into building walls than bridges costing billions of dollars. I'm looking forward to watching the fence wash away along the 2 highway to Mexicali in the next big rain.
Maybe it's time for a new "Department Of De Fence."
Moving here gave me a perspective that only living here can give you. My lifestyle has changed a lot, my quality of living has changed a lot, but my quality of life has improved at least 100%. I'll take that any day.
So while I refer to Pokey's post as a rant, I mean it in a gentle way. I think the anger coming through is demonstrative of the kinds of emotions that get stirred up when someone's dignity is insulted.
Problem is that it's happening on a national scale.
Maybe the kids and grand-kids will fix it, as long as their education is not eliminated through budget cuts. In some sectors, big screens and SUV's trump little Johnnys's preschool costs. Irresponsibility in government has cost California it's education system.
But that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.
Be safe and be nice
Country John
Smut Villain
11-24-09, 22:16
Very true. The greater distance away from the Zona or El Centro the less you find deportees etc. and the more family type situations you see. I once stopped at a light only to have an absolutely beautiful Morena offer to sell me gum which I of course bought. I mean, she was fucking beautiful.
If I didn't already have one at home I would have talked to her a bit more. She was very nice and chatty.
Pokey's post, below, appears to be a rant and a venting of a common frustration here; the impression Americans give of Mexicans is one of them being second class citizens from a 3rd world country.
Fortunately for me, I was able to actually witness a lot of that first hand both here in Mexico and State-side. Fortunately for me I was able to see first hand the reality of the situation.
My take is that some Americans can't let Mexicans be who they really are because Americans don't know who they really are. The "great experiment" that is the democracy of the United States has led Americans down many roads over the past couple hundred years; none of them seemed to have led to a place where a sense of common decency and a basic respect for who people really are exists at the end of that road. And that's a pity.
The socio-economic situation created by Americans in their own country has cut them off from the fruits of observation. They fucked up their economy so bad that many fear for their own future. Many are not capable of experiencing this culture, it's traditions and customs anyway. It also made them very insensitive to the plight of their neighbors to the south because they've created such a fucking mess in their own country that they can't think of anyone's basic welfare besides their own. This despite allowing their government to send billions of their dollars in aid to countries that could care less about them.
Americans will continue to behave badly however, and there is not much of anything that can be done about it. Perhaps a few shifts selling gum at the border would help, I dunno.
I think it's a pity that the "greatest nation on earth" can't develop a mechanism to address the issues that involve their relationship with Mexico. I am surprised that they are more into building walls than bridges costing billions of dollars. I'm looking forward to watching the fence wash away along the 2 highway to Mexicali in the next big rain.
Maybe it's time for a new "Department Of De Fence."
Moving here gave me a perspective that only living here can give you. My lifestyle has changed a lot, my quality of living has changed a lot, but my quality of life has improved at least 100%. I'll take that any day.
So while I refer to Pokey's post as a rant, I mean it in a gentle way. I think the anger coming through is demonstrative of the kinds of emotions that get stirred up when someone's dignity is insulted.
Problem is that it's happening on a national scale.
Maybe the kids and grand-kids will fix it, as long as their education is not eliminated through budget cuts. In some sectors, big screens and SUV's trump little Johnnys's preschool costs. Irresponsibility in government has cost California it's education system.
But that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.
Be safe and be nice
Country John
I wish I could tell you that you were wrong and didn't know what you were talking about.
However, my Navy days afforded me travel to many different international locales (and some primo monger hotspots, too). The things I saw, as well as the behavior I witnessed from shipmates and Yankee tourists alike, only serve to back up what you're saying 100%.
Sometimes we Gringos can be our own worst enemies.
I wish I could tell you that you were wrong and didn't know what you were talking about.
However, my Navy days afforded me travel to many different international locales (and some primo monger hotspots, too). The things I saw, as well as the behavior I witnessed from shipmates and Yankee tourists alike, only serve to back up what you're saying 100%.
Sometimes we Gringos can be our own worst enemies.
Agreed. I was born in Mexico, but grew up in the US. I'm in my mid twenties and have been to 22 other countries... My first time leaving the US a savvy traveled gave me the best advice, " When you encounter a certain situation, think... it is not wrong, it is just different." When one is traveling abroad he should act as an ambassador of his country, for people will judge your country based on your attitude and behavior. IMHO one should not be judgmental of another society, just because their ways would simply not fly in the in your home country.... Sadly, in all 22 of these countries, I have encountered some asshole American who has made me embarrassed to be associated with the US, because they do the exact opposite of what I have mentioned above.
Country John
11-25-09, 23:28
Agreed. I was born in Mexico, but grew up in the US. I'm in my mid twenties and have been to 22 other countries... My first time leaving the US a savvy traveled gave me the best advice, " When you encounter a certain situation, think... it is not wrong, it is just different." When one is traveling abroad he should act as an ambassador of his country, for people will judge your country based on your attitude and behavior. IMHO one should not be judgmental of another society, just because their ways would simply not fly in the in your home country.... Sadly, in all 22 of these countries, I have encountered some asshole American who has made me embarrassed to be associated with the US, because they do the exact opposite of what I have mentioned above.
I'm not slagging Americans for lack of something better to post, but it's something that is significant culturally and I think attitude is everything.
Sure, you can push someone around until you get what you want but is that what it's all about? Nawww.
America stopped being serious about it's identity in the '50s, teamwork went out the window and the greed that shapes the current attitudes crept in.
America is a beautiful country. No question about that. But until they adopt a different viewpoint about how important other people (like Mexico) are to their long term prosperity, the ignorance they find so blissful will be a blind spot that keeps their focus on their own welfare instead of seeing themselves as part of a much larger family. Good luck and may God bless America.
DJ FourMoney
11-26-09, 09:41
I'm not slagging Americans for lack of something better to post, but it's something that is significant culturally and I think attitude is everything.
Sure, you can push someone around until you get what you want but is that what it's all about? Nawww.
America stopped being serious about it's identity in the '50s, teamwork went out the window and the greed that shapes the current attitudes crept in.
America is a beautiful country. No question about that. But until they adopt a different viewpoint about how important other people (like Mexico) are to their long term prosperity, the ignorance they find so blissful will be a blind spot that keeps their focus on their own welfare instead of seeing themselves as part of a much larger family. Good luck and may God bless America.
America is flawed, read Tim Wise or Google him, that is the answer.
When this country FINALLY un-do's its sins of the past (all of them) then we can let out a collective sigh and go back to being really "ONE NATION". We're not one nation, more like two or three nations...
Agreed. I was born in Mexico, but grew up in the US. I'm in my mid twenties and have been to 22 other countries... My first time leaving the US a savvy traveled gave me the best advice, " When you encounter a certain situation, think... it is not wrong, it is just different." When one is traveling abroad he should act as an ambassador of his country, for people will judge your country based on your attitude and behavior. IMHO one should not be judgmental of another society, just because their ways would simply not fly in the in your home country.... Sadly, in all 22 of these countries, I have encountered some asshole American who has made me embarrassed to be associated with the US, because they do the exact opposite of what I have mentioned above.
Very well said, especially about where you say," When you encounter a certain situation, think... it is not wrong, it is just different." When one is traveling abroad he should act as an ambassador of his country, for people will judge your country based on your attitude and behavior."
I think this kind of attitude will help you go a long way in Mexico and other countries where the locals will come to know and respect you and in turn you'll have a lot more fun.
The other way some Americans look at things is through the lens of American standards, and will judge everything according to your culture standards you learned in America, and you'll compare everything to those standards.
People like that are real fun to be around, and I'm sure the locals enjoy hearing them talk about how they don't measure up.
There is a word for that type of behavior, and it's called an "UGLY AMERICAN" If you haven't heard that term before, look it up in Google, in Wikipedia.
very well said, especially about where you say," when you encounter a certain situation, think... it is not wrong, it is just different." when one is traveling abroad he should act as an ambassador of his country, for people will judge your country based on your attitude and behavior."
i think this kind of attitude will help you go a long way in mexico and other countries where the locals will come to know and respect you and in turn you'll have a lot more fun.
the other way some americans look at things is through the lens of american standards, and will judge everything according to your culture standards you learned in america, and you'll compare everything to those standards.
people like that are real fun to be around, and i'm sure the locals enjoy hearing them talk about how they don't measure up.
there is a word for that type of behavior, and it's called an "ugly american" if you haven't heard that term before, look it up in google, in wikipedia.
these, and the other posts, make good points. and we should always strive to remember that we are guests in other countries, and that they do not need to do things the way we think they should.
but before the self-flagellation gets out of hand, we should reflect on other countries. the usa is certainly not the only country to produce boorish tourists. in fact, i would say that we are not even the worst.
the germans are notoriously rude. i've witnessed my share, and have been told horror stories by other locals during my travels. the french are not too far behind. the brits are legendary cheapskates.
the japanese are probably the most racist people on the planet (yes, even surpassing the mexicans :) ). not only are there plenty of "japanese only" clubs in japan, but you'll see them in other countries where there is a large japanese presence (and the law doesn't forbid it). sorry, i have yet to see an american set up a whites-only club in some foreign land.
american has had an odd relationship with mexico for a loooong time. but i'm not sure that if they shared a border with, say, germany, that things would be that much better. i doubt that the germans would treat the mexicans much better than the americans. in fact, they might invade them from time to time, just for sport! :d :d mexico has its own share of serious cultural problems. i think a lot of that can be laid at the feet of spain, who raped and pillaged and oppressed the indians to the point that many vestiges of that can be seen in the mexican culture today.
so, nobody has a lock on cultural perfection, and the usa is far from the worst. as the great statesman, rodney king, said: can't we all just get along?
OCTraveler
11-26-09, 18:43
As usual, when the Board changes tones and diverts to other topics, the respondents fall into two distinctive categories - the informed and the immature. The comments made by Pokey, Phordphan, DJ and of course my old amigo Country John demostrate the opinions of those who can think with "both" of their heads. Thank you for your opinions and thank you Jackson for the opportunity to continue to participate in one of our Country's oldest freedoms - that of expression.
With the above being said, let me return the topic of discussion (at least for the time being) to the pursuit of female companionship ...
While visiting TJ last night, I decided to try something a liitle out of my norm and ventured into the massage portion of "Mermaids". I was pleasantly surprized at the lack of the "hard sell" by the gentleman in charge - "This is what you pay for the 'one hour' massage ($30) and this is what you get for additional -I indicated the I would be willing to 'tip' $50 and he responded 'full service'."
I was then provided with a true "line-up" of possible companions and all had many favorable assets - I would estimate of the 6 young ladies assembled, all were as good as any you would find in Hong Kong or Adelitas. My choice was "Paola", a young provider who told me she was Tijuana born and bred.
What followed was an unrushed 45 minute experience in a clean room including mutual massage, mutual oral pleasures and mutual positions. I believe a good time had by both.
Considering the evening prices at either Adelitas or Hong Kong would be $60 +$12 + fecha for rushed experience, I think that this experience is definately worth repeating.
Happy Thanksgiving to all who contribute and not condem ... and always "be safe out there".
Country John
11-28-09, 06:26
As usual, when the Board changes tones and diverts to other topics, the respondents fall into two distinctive categories - the informed and the immature. The comments made by Pokey, Phordphan, DJ and of course my old amigo Country John demostrate the opinions of those who can think with "both" of their heads. Thank you for your opinions and thank you Jackson for the opportunity to continue to participate in one of our Country's oldest freedoms - that of expression.
With the above being said, let me return the topic of discussion (at least for the time being) to the pursuit of female companionship ...
While visiting TJ last night, I decided to try something a liitle out of my norm and ventured into the massage portion of "Mermaids". I was pleasantly surprized at the lack of the "hard sell" by the gentleman in charge - "This is what you pay for the 'one hour' massage ($30) and this is what you get for additional -I indicated the I would be willing to 'tip' $50 and he responded 'full service'."
I was then provided with a true "line-up" of possible companions and all had many favorable assets - I would estimate of the 6 young ladies assembled, all were as good as any you would find in Hong Kong or Adelitas. My choice was "Paola", a young provider who told me she was Tijuana born and bred.
What followed was an unrushed 45 minute experience in a clean room including mutual massage, mutual oral pleasures and mutual positions. I believe a good time had by both.
Considering the evening prices at either Adelitas or Hong Kong would be $60 +$12 + fecha for rushed experience, I think that this experience is definately worth repeating.
Happy Thanksgiving to all who contribute and not condem ... and always "be safe out there".
Of the several years Mermaids has been running, I've heard only one complaint from an inexperienced monger. Something about quoting one price downstairs and up-selling upstairs, or some other foolishness. Mermaids seems to have a track record of good girls and good service.
Either they really did have it together from the start or they are reading this board and paying attention.
AB seems to be turning into "old hat." It's about time. More and more mongers are getting more bag for their buck elsewhere and while they appear to be experienced mongers like my esteemed friend OTC, newbies should be taking notes.
Country John
Great report. My first mongering experience was at mermaids during thanksging weekend back in 2003 or 2004, not sure which. The place was off of revolucion a few blocks from pussy cats, not in zona norte where it is now. It was a good expierence that I repeated a month later. Another month passed and I tried to go a third time but the cabbie from the border coaxed me into trying purple rain. At the time one paid 40 bucks for the massage at it was said that one negotied the eztras upstairs with the girls. I was quoted 120 all three times. The thrid time I only had 90 bucks left to spare and she took the deal. All 3 were freat experiences. The I discovered isg which led me to AB and CC. The 60 buck deal seemed a steal in comparison to the 160 dollar lay at the massage parlors. I was a poor 20 year old college student then so I started hitting only AB. Also AB offered girls that resembled the american colle coeds I waz chasing at the time.
I haven't tried mermaid in zona norte but if what you say about price, looks, and service is correct I will gladly go back to that. Especially now as a more season mongerer. So thanks again. Has anyone tried purple rain recently? Feedback?
As usual, when the Board changes tones and diverts to other topics, the respondents fall into two distinctive categories - the informed and the immature. The comments made by Pokey, Phordphan, DJ and of course my old amigo Country John demostrate the opinions of those who can think with "both" of their heads. Thank you for your opinions and thank you Jackson for the opportunity to continue to participate in one of our Country's oldest freedoms - that of expression.
With the above being said, let me return the topic of discussion (at least for the time being) to the pursuit of female companionship ...
While visiting TJ last night, I decided to try something a liitle out of my norm and ventured into the massage portion of "Mermaids". I was pleasantly surprized at the lack of the "hard sell" by the gentleman in charge - "This is what you pay for the 'one hour' massage ($30) and this is what you get for additional -I indicated the I would be willing to 'tip' $50 and he responded 'full service'."
I was then provided with a true "line-up" of possible companions and all had many favorable assets - I would estimate of the 6 young ladies assembled, all were as good as any you would find in Hong Kong or Adelitas. My choice was "Paola", a young provider who told me she was Tijuana born and bred.
What followed was an unrushed 45 minute experience in a clean room including mutual massage, mutual oral pleasures and mutual positions. I believe a good time had by both.
Considering the evening prices at either Adelitas or Hong Kong would be $60 +$12 + fecha for rushed experience, I think that this experience is definately worth repeating.
Happy Thanksgiving to all who contribute and not condem ... and always "be safe out there".
Ninguno Especial
11-28-09, 16:42
I've only bought chicas drinks there 5 or 6 years ago, never gone upstairs for the "massage". After reading the good report it will be more difficult to resist as I pass by. Over the past year I've noticed some real cuties arriving around 7 or 8PM but as I'm in TJ earlier by then I've already bagged my limit.
If a guy doesn't already have a harem (regulars) and is looking for something different it sounds like a good choice these days.
Super Gato
11-29-09, 03:57
I've only bought chicas drinks there 5 or 6 years ago, never gone upstairs for the "massage". After reading the good report it will be more difficult to resist as I pass by. Over the past year I've noticed some real cuties arriving around 7 or 8PM but as I'm in TJ earlier by then I've already bagged my limit.
If a guy doesn't already have a harem (regulars) and is looking for something different it sounds like a good choice these days.
Years ago I developed a weakness for the sexy schoolgirl outfit and I'll be walking between AB and HK and see some cuties in front of Mermaids tempting me. Then again about 1/2 the street girls and maybe 20% of the club girls have the outfit (and the ones wearing glasses... ay dios mio)
I went over there once in the daytime and the tout at the door insisted I'd like the girls. I went inside and there weren't any. He said to wait a second and they'd line up for me in the bar area but only one girl came down and she was looking for membership in the 100kg club and well the only belly allowed in sessions with me is my own. But I'll probably check it out one of these days.
I'm a softy. I don't try Mermaids or other places where they line up girls because I wouldn't want the girls I don't pick to feel inferior to the girl I do pick.
Country John
11-30-09, 18:37
I'm a softy. I don't try Mermaids or other places where they line up girls because I wouldn't want the girls I don't pick to feel inferior to the girl I do pick.
Don't worry. The girls you don't pick get to watch the rest of their novellas and work on their makeup a bit more. They don't really mind. And think of this: maybe the girl you DO pick would rather finish watching her novella than session your ass!!
Anyone in Tijuana 12/11-12/12, was hoping to meet up with someone familiar with Tijuana. Spanish is my first language, and have been to other places like Rio, DR, Prague, Budapest, and other parts of mexico; but never to Tijuana. If anyone is going to be there or could provide some info let me know. I plan to head to Tijuana from San Diego.
Thanks
Sweetjacker
12-01-09, 12:06
Has any one hit this place.
1. How is the talent?
2. How is the service?
3. What is the cost?
4. Is it better than AB?
Any info would be appreciated.
Don't worry. The girls you don't pick get to watch the rest of their novellas and work on their makeup a bit more. They don't really mind. And think of this: maybe the girl you DO pick would rather finish watching her novella than session your ass!!
It's funny cause I've asked many of the girls if they watch novelas and none yet have admitted to it. Either they're lying or they don't watch them. I think I am a bigger fan than them since I watch them. Hot Latina chicks in skimpy clothes. Why wouldn't I watch? Plus it helps me to better understand spanish. :D
Luxor = 4 to 5 SW or 2 AB, HK, CC Chicas
It only takes one chica to please the heart and many for the mind.
Did Tiger Wood not know this?
Has any one hit this place.
1. How is the talent?
2. How is the service?
3. What is the cost?
4. Is it better than AB?
Any info would be appreciated.
Can you please decipher this complex equation? Are we talking 4 to 5 times the cost?? Or what is the meaning?
Luxor = 4 to 5 SW or 2 AB, HK, CC Chicas
It only takes one chica to please the heart and many for the mind.
Did Tiger Wood not know this?
Member #4450
12-03-09, 06:36
Can you please decipher this complex equation? Are we talking 4 to 5 times the cost?? Or what is the meaning?
Very simple!
Price for a session with 1 luxor girl equals= about the same money of 5sw or 2AB girls.
I think Luxor is a rip off.
Yes, it is complex equation, sexual tolerance and finacial tolerance are not defined.
Few things to consider:
Money no objective: Expensive good environment, 3 star
Luxor. Not in the sex zone district. Complication? Sex up to the chica.
Massage yes at $125/ 30 minutes. Sex? Good for business client treatment.
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Moderate: Adequate environment, 2 star. In the sex zone district.
HK, AB, CC, TB Clubs. Personal sex tolerance not an issue, double play for the price of Luxor. One hour
HK good for business client treatment.
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Budget: Hotels. One Star, In the sex zone district. Personal sex demands multi partners for the price of Luxor.
SW $25 per pop or 15 minutes of play time.
Can you please decipher this complex equation? Are we talking 4 to 5 times the cost?? Or what is the meaning?
Sweetjacker
12-06-09, 00:18
I see some of you gentlemen talking about Mermaids below. I have never been there.
Are the girls really as good as the AB and HK girls?
What is the cost?
Thank you for any information.
Sound7 thank for the information you provided about the Luxor. You sound like a true professional. Much respect!
DJ FourMoney
12-07-09, 10:47
i highly suggest any members in the los angeles area to consider using mass transit for trips down to tj.
this was the first time i went down using the bus. i used intercalifornias which cost $28rt. when you add in the cost of fuel in your personal car + parking, it really makes sense. plus if you wanna crash on your way home, you can, no worries and you can sleep in your own bed provided you left with the final bus...
last bus leaves central la 8pm.
just to give you an idea:
we left maple and 7th in downtown at 7:05pm saturday night or something. we got to the boarder by 9:24, you do the math, that's with two stops.
on the way back, i took the 6am bus on sunday and i was the only other person beside the driver and another guy. we left at 6:05 on the dot and hit maple and 7th by would you believe 7:35am?
i think his average speed was close to 75-80mph... buses don't have to adhere to the same class a speed regulations (55mph) that trucks do, they run just as fast as cars drive, just less acceleration.
if i didn't have issues with my tap pass for the subway, i would have been home about 9am! as it was, i got home at 9:45 including walking from the bus stop which is only a block from my front door, still caught the start of the saints game...
i highly recommend this form of traveling.
i should also note, there is another bus service that offers free wi-fi and of course there tour van, which they claim can be faster than the bus but how much faster could they travel when the bus is making that run in a little more than 90 mins???
it also $2 more
ymmv
where is the stop in tj or san ysidro?
i highly suggest any members in the los angeles area to consider using mass transit for trips down to tj.
this was the first time i went down using the bus. i used intercalifornias which cost $28rt. when you add in the cost of fuel in your personal car + parking, it really makes sense. plus if you wanna crash on your way home, you can, no worries and you can sleep in your own bed provided you left with the final bus...
last bus leaves central la 8pm.
just to give you an idea:
we left maple and 7th in downtown at 7:05pm saturday night or something. we got to the boarder by 9:24, you do the math, that's with two stops.
on the way back, i took the 6am bus on sunday and i was the only other person beside the driver and another guy. we left at 6:05 on the dot and hit maple and 7th by would you believe 7:35am?
i think his average speed was close to 75-80mph... buses don't have to adhere to the same class a speed regulations (55mph) that trucks do, they run just as fast as cars drive, just less acceleration.
if i didn't have issues with my tap pass for the subway, i would have been home about 9am! as it was, i got home at 9:45 including walking from the bus stop which is only a block from my front door, still caught the start of the saints game...
i highly recommend this form of traveling.
i should also note, there is another bus service that offers free wi-fi and of course there tour van, which they claim can be faster than the bus but how much faster could they travel when the bus is making that run in a little more than 90 mins???
it also $2 more
ymmv
DJ FourMoney
12-07-09, 13:41
Where is the stop in TJ or San Ysidro?
Final Destination #1 is behind McDonald's in San Ysidro
Final Destination #2 is in the bus layover across the boarder
Final Destination #3 is I believe the Greyhound Bus terminal
Final Destination #4 is I think the airport
* When you return from the boarder, you can either go to the bus layover and wait. Which then you'll have to wait for the bus to come across and get you, so you can turn in your slip for the return trip. Otherwise, I took the 6am Sunday bus which leaves just after the office opens at 5:30am
Like I said we left promptly at 6:05am and got to Downtown by 7:35
I see some of you gentlemen talking about Mermaids below. I have never been there.
Are the girls really as good as the AB and HK girls?
What is the cost?
Thank you for any information.
I've only tried them once, came away a load lighter but still disappointed. The girls, while being less business like that the HK/AB chicas aren't of the same caliber IMO.
Also, I thought it more expensive if only by $10 or so. YMMV
Final Destination #1 is behind McDonald's in San Ysidro
Final Destination #2 is in the bus layover across the boarder
Final Destination #3 is I believe the Greyhound Bus terminal
Final Destination #4 is I think the airport
* When you return from the boarder, you can either go to the bus layover and wait. Which then you'll have to wait for the bus to come across and get you, so you can turn in your slip for the return trip. Otherwise, I took the 6am Sunday bus which leaves just after the office opens at 5:30am
Like I said we left promptly at 6:05am and got to Downtown by 7:35
You're sounding like me now. I was also advertising Intercalifornias bus in the past. I take the bus from their East L.A. office. Bus ride is like two hours long. About the same as driving to Tj yourself.
They stop right next to the border at San Ysidro. Behind the Mcdonalds to be exact.
The only downside is that the last bus heading back to L.A. leaves San Ysidro around 8pm. It'd be awesome if they had the buses running 24 hours. But I'm only in Tj for a few hours anyways. I leave for Tj in the morning and get there by the afternoon. Then I leave Tj at night and get home by 10pm or so.
A day well spent in my opinion. :D
DJ FourMoney
12-08-09, 00:53
You're sounding like me now. I was also advertising Intercalifornias bus in the past. I take the bus from their East L.A. office. Bus ride is like two hours long. About the same as driving to Tj yourself.
They stop right next to the border at San Ysidro. Behind the Mcdonalds to be exact.
The only downside is that the last bus heading back to L.A. leaves San Ysidro around 8pm. It'd be awesome if they had the buses running 24 hours. But I'm only in Tj for a few hours anyways. I leave for Tj in the morning and get there by the afternoon. Then I leave Tj at night and get home by 10pm or so.
A day well spent in my opinion. :D
LOL, I'm glad I finally used it. Somewhat forced to use it, but none the less it was easy to find, use and get back - Painless
Its just been too hard for me to get out of the house during the day, even on my days off!
I'll try to get down when there's some daylight...
DJ FourMoney
12-08-09, 01:15
I think its been painfully and expensively clear that while the best looking girls, the safest health wise are girls who work in the various establishments, but the service is usually no better than what you get from a SG.
Which is a conundrum in itself.
I think the problem with TJ is there is no standard unlike say FKK's in Germany.
Then there's the weird sense of what makes a good provider by American standards which to be flatly honest is like almost like fool's gold. You don't know how bad you have it until you experience it someplace else.
I still have yet to find a girl in TJ to match the level of either the PSE I got in Germany or the GFE I got in Germany and frankly only ONE was even near the PSE girl in terms of looks.
I still think language is a barrier that doesn't exist in Europe and while many have had success (so they claim) by not speaking any Spanish, I find it HARD BELIEVE getting GFE or even PSE from a lady is possible unless she had a decent command of English or you have a decent command of Spanish, there is no middle ground.
After trip #3 and not getting any better results than trip #1 or #2, I am now considering the SG route. Why not spend less if your going to get the same service????
I think its been painfully and expensively clear that while the best looking girls, the safest health wise are girls who work in the various establishments, but the service is usually no better than what you get from a SG.
Which is a conundrum in itself.
I think the problem with TJ is there is no standard unlike say FKK's in Germany.
Then there's the weird sense of what makes a good provider by American standards which to be flatly honest is like almost like fool's gold. You don't know how bad you have it until you experience it someplace else.
I still have yet to find a girl in TJ to match the level of either the PSE I got in Germany or the GFE I got in Germany and frankly only ONE was even near the PSE girl in terms of looks.
I still think language is a barrier that doesn't exist in Europe and while many have had success (so they claim) by not speaking any Spanish, I find it HARD BELIEVE getting GFE or even PSE from a lady is possible unless she had a decent command of English or you have a decent command of Spanish, there is no middle ground.
After trip #3 and not getting any better results than trip #1 or #2, I am now considering the SG route. Why not spend less if your going to get the same service????
These are all good points.
I guess if the US Army had occupied Mexico for a couple of decades, the Mexicans would speak English, too! :D :D
It's definitely worth a couple of basic Spanish night-school courses at your local Community College. They will pay huuuuuge dividends. Trust me. :)
The clubs are better than anything stateside, so, they make it worthwhile to visit. SGs are OK, and I have nothing against them. But 20 minute quickies just aren't my cup of tea. That said, I have has some nice 30 minute sessions with 2nd tier SGs.
If you can cobble together a little Spanish, the best thing to do is to find a nice BG and become a "regular." Liasons outside work are much more fun, and won't cost you much more than an hour's arriba with the same girl when she's at work. But, as you said, a little Spanish lingo is a must. Unless you like 'em a bit more mature, then they very well may speak enough English to get by.
SW pre-screening needed on a new chica. Time on your hand and able to find key veiwing locations helps.
Street sweeps not recommended from safety concern as reported on this thread. For new client many add-on are demanded by some chicas this can drive the cost up by 100 percent and be a turn-off. Counter offers are accepted by the chicas in some cases.
Easy to pre-screen a SW than a club chica. Interference by the waiters in the club. It is fact the club chicas vary and so do SWs.
Desertratco
12-09-09, 01:47
I'm trying to remember. Is Mermaids the place on the same block as Bar Tropical, with the bar downstairs and massage joint upstairs, or is that another place? Last time I was there, it was a little pricey for my tastes and none of the available girls really struck my fancy. maybe the recession has improved things there?
Of the several years Mermaids has been running, I've heard only one complaint from an inexperienced monger. Something about quoting one price downstairs and up-selling upstairs, or some other foolishness. Mermaids seems to have a track record of good girls and good service.
Either they really did have it together from the start or they are reading this board and paying attention.
AB seems to be turning into "old hat." It's about time. More and more mongers are getting more bag for their buck elsewhere and while they appear to be experienced mongers like my esteemed friend OTC, newbies should be taking notes.
Country John
Country John
12-09-09, 22:02
I'm trying to remember. Is Mermaids the place on the same block as Bar Tropical, with the bar downstairs and massage joint upstairs, or is that another place? Last time I was there, it was a little pricey for my tastes and none of the available girls really struck my fancy. maybe the recession has improved things there?
Yeah, that's the same place. Like everywhere in the Zona, the quality will ebb but I see some very interesting ladies there now.
It's all a matter of taste too. One man's "10" is another man's "2" so it's a matter of throwing some eyeballs on them and evaluating for yourself.
DJ FourMoney
12-10-09, 00:30
These are all good points.
I guess if the US Army had occupied Mexico for a couple of decades, the Mexicans would speak English, too! :D :D
It's definitely worth a couple of basic Spanish night-school courses at your local Community College. They will pay huuuuuge dividends. Trust me. :)
The clubs are better than anything stateside, so, they make it worthwhile to visit. SGs are OK, and I have nothing against them. But 20 minute quickies just aren't my cup of tea. That said, I have has some nice 30 minute sessions with 2nd tier SGs.
If you can cobble together a little Spanish, the best thing to do is to find a nice BG and become a "regular." Liasons outside work are much more fun, and won't cost you much more than an hour's arriba with the same girl when she's at work. But, as you said, a little Spanish lingo is a must. Unless you like 'em a bit more mature, then they very well may speak enough English to get by.
Thanks for the suggestion and I thought about taking a class or something it would prove useful for as long as I live in Southern California really, but maybe I'm just speaking out of frustration to a degree.
I would like to find a regular I could come down and see, I'm not one for random chicks. I'm taking test drives for something more on a regular basis.
I don't have many options, I might just have to learn Spanish, there are no shortage of good looking women that's for sure.
Thanks for the suggestion and I thought about taking a class or something it would prove useful for as long as I live in Southern California really, but maybe I'm just speaking out of frustration to a degree.
I would like to find a regular I could come down and see, I'm not one for random chicks. I'm taking test drives for something more on a regular basis.
I don't have many options, I might just have to learn Spanish, there are no shortage of good looking women that's for sure.
I don't think it's just frustration. It is what it is, and in SoCal you're either gonna need to speak Spanish or Mandarin. :)
A long time ago I took a couple of night school classes, but didn't finish them. It was primarily to establish a bit of structure and some vocabulary. But they paid off big later.
Then, as I work all over town, it was just a matter of practicing in various taco stands, etc. I got laughed at a time or two, but hey. Traveling in Central America really helped.
But one of the biggest aids was, a few years back, I had a fave from CC. She spoke Ingles to a large degree, but she was a very patient teacher. I would meet her outside of work and spend the day and/or night. At least once during the day she would sit quietly in our hotel room and just chat with me in Spanish. She spoke slowly (most of the time). I was really surprised how much I could understand, after a while. I still miss her.
Now I can't carry on a conversation past that of a retarded 2nd grader, and I have loads of trouble with past/present tense, conjugating go/come/etc., and genders, I have a hell of a hard time over the phone, but I can make myself understood, and can at least converse past the sucky/fucky/$60 stage. :D
My point, I guess, is that it will pay huuuuuge dividends to learn just a bit. The chicas really appreciate it when you make an effort to communicate in their language. Oh, and carry a pocket English-Spanish dictionary. Works wonders.
IMHO, CC and LC are great places to find a regular. I've had little trouble setting up out-dates with chicas from these venues. Although, my last foray into HK netted me the number of a cute spinner, but I can't make it down as often as I'd like. :( And, at HK, a certain famous chica has let everybody and their dog know that I'm her BF. OMG!! Now I can't darken the door during the day! :D
Desertratco
12-10-09, 07:58
Thanks. It's been several months since I've been to TJ--I gotta keep up a little more.
One more question. Has the situation with the rateros gotten better, worse, or stayed more or less stable since the early fall? I'm thinking of running down to SD for a break from the wintry weather around here and a trip to TJ might be in order. I know TJ isn't ever completely "safe," but what's the skinny?
TIA for your time.
Yeah, that's the same place. Like everywhere in the Zona, the quality will ebb but I see some very interesting ladies there now.
It's all a matter of taste too. One man's "10" is another man's "2" so it's a matter of throwing some eyeballs on them and evaluating for yourself.
Super Gato
12-10-09, 20:35
Thanks. It's been several months since I've been to TJ--I gotta keep up a little more.
One more question. Has the situation with the rateros gotten better, worse, or stayed more or less stable since the early fall? I'm thinking of running down to SD for a break from the wintry weather around here and a trip to TJ might be in order. I know TJ isn't ever completely "safe," but what's the skinny?
TIA for your time.The police have stepped up foot/moto/car patrols in the area near AB/CC/HK and the alley and reports of the chokehold muggings have all but disappeared. Of course, outside this area, it is still not the safest place in the world so you should still taxi between the bars and the border and try not to go off the beaten path. As always, don't get too wasted not to be able to tell what's going on and you'll be fine.
And for the most part, these cops aren't the ratero type cops from a few years ago either. The only people that seem to be getting in trouble are those with some sort of moving violation (Taxistas are afraid to double park in front of HK for fear of a ticket) as they're writing a lot of tickets to drivers with BC and CA tags on their car. The other people I see in trouble with the police are young thuggish local guys that I've seen get hauled out of the alley.
Hi guys,
I'm going there next week. Do you guys any any local tour guide that you can recommend?
Thanks
Desertratco
12-11-09, 07:23
Anyone every mongered on Xmas? Are the bars open Xmas day? I'm debating making a run to SD and TJ for that week and since I have no commitments in SD on Xmas day, I might as well P4P. What about the street girls?
Why do you need a tour guide?
Where are you planning on going?
The map here is very good.
Are you really wanting a wingman?
Hi guys,
I'm going there next week. Do you guys any any local tour guide that you can recommend?
Thanks
Research was my tour guide. I suggest you try it.
http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2995
Hi guys,
I'm going there next week. Do you guys any any local tour guide that you can recommend?
Thanks
If you want a tour guide for non mongering experiences let me know. This guy is a TJ historian recommended by the tourist office.
Hi guys,
I'm looking for a guide for both mongering and non mongering experience in Tijuana. Please share if you guys have some contact info.
I also found this website while researching www.Tijuanasextours.comany of you guys tried it yet?
Hi guys,
I'm looking for a guide for both mongering and non mongering experience in Tijuana. Please share if you guys have some contact info.
I also found this website while researching www.Tijuanasextours.comany of you guys tried it yet?
The pricing for that site is just absurd! For that pricing you can bang a hottie for 3 hours SW and a bar girl for 1 hour.. You have already found this forum .. take a bit to do some browsing on actual reports and advice from guys like Country John and you will save yourself money and probably get a more enjoyable experience. just my 2 cents.. but its your 150 bucks
Ninguno Especial
12-12-09, 06:20
Anyone every mongered on Xmas? Are the bars open Xmas day? I'm debating making a run to SD and TJ for that week and since I have no commitments in SD on Xmas day, I might as well P4P. What about the street girls?
The chica count will be down but there should be enough to find one to your liking unless you are real picky. I was there Xmas several years ago. I think more chicas take of Xmas Eve than Xmas Day.
Tomorrow, Dec. 12th is a big holy day as well, they worship the Virgin of Guadalupe, go to church and have family gatherings so the count should be down. Only the bad girls will be out.
Tomorrow, Dec. 12th is a big holy day as well, they worship the Virgin of Guadalupe, go to church and have family gatherings so the count should be down. Only the bad girls will be out.That's just the daytime right? They'll be back at the bars at night? I don't want to go to HK or Adelitas and see a bunch of guys. I was actually planning to go on the 12th in the evening.
Anyone heading to TJ from CA on 12/12 or 12/13, if so let me know. Was hoping to go with a wingman, arriving there from San Diego.
By the way, I'm fluent in spanish.
Super Gato
12-13-09, 09:12
The chica count will be down but there should be enough to find one to your liking unless you are real picky. I was there Xmas several years ago. I think more chicas take of Xmas Eve than Xmas Day.
Tomorrow, Dec. 12th is a big holy day as well, they worship the Virgin of Guadalupe, go to church and have family gatherings so the count should be down. Only the bad girls will be out.
You mean the bad girls that work at clubs? Those are the best kind. There was no shortage of bad girls there tonight.
Every girl I've talked to at AB/CC/HK have said they're probably not going home for Christmas. That doesn't mean they'll be in the club on Xmas Eve/Xmas, but there should be plenty of talent to chose from.
Ninguno Especial
12-13-09, 18:21
You mean the bad girls that work at clubs? Those are the best kind. There was no shortage of bad girls there tonight.
Yes, I was down and there were a plenty. Those without family in TJ basically came to work.
Country John
12-13-09, 22:21
Hi guys,
I'm looking for a guide for both mongering and non mongering experience in Tijuana. Please share if you guys have some contact info.
I also found this website while researching www.Tijuanasextours.comany of you guys tried it yet?
When you say "non mongering" experience, what exactly does that mean? You want to visit museums? Civilian bars?
A good wing man can save you $150. A good taxi driver can save you $125.
It's fine to have an element of trust in anyone offering to show you around, it's usually not that person you have to worry about; it's the unexpected things that can happen because of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
So being in the right places at the right times is what I would suggest for now. When you have some trips under your belt and possibly a wingman then you can get out and about a bit more.
There is no substitute for being prepared and if you feel like you need to hire someone to show you around then you are obviously not prepared for the unexpected. No tour guide will rescue you from a dirty cop or a set up situation; they will most likely be caught up in the same shit as you.
I have nothing against tour guides. I do encourage anyone who plans on wandering out of the Zona to be prepared as an individual; know the scene and be able to stand on your own two feet. If you can do that much on your own, then a tour guide will be much more useful and productive.
That's just my dos pesos.
Read the board. Take some trips to the Zona first and get a feel for the place.
Country John
Yes, I was down and there were a plenty. Those without family in TJ basically came to work.I was down there for the Holidays last year and the previous year. There is a noticeable reduction in chicas but not so much where you can't find a few to your liking.
I have nothing against tour guides. I do encourage anyone who plans on wandering out of the Zona to be prepared as an individual; know the scene and be able to stand on your own two feet. If you can do that much on your own, then a tour guide will be much more useful and productive.
That's just my dos pesos.
Read the board. Take some trips to the Zona first and get a feel for the place.
Country JohnThe first time I went to Tj I went by myself but not until much research on the do's and dont's. I didn't go wild and try to see and do everything. Just a quick trip to the zona and back. This allowed me to wet my feet on getting comfortable with the whole Tj scene. Every trip after that I ventured a little more. Now I am completely prepared for Tj every time I go and know where to go and where to avoid. Including people. I've been going for over three years now and have not encountered one problem yet. Maybe except bad upstairs experience, but that much is expected. lol
Let us know how it went.
Thanks
Hi guys,
I'm looking for a guide for both mongering and non mongering experience in Tijuana. Please share if you guys have some contact info.
I also found this website while researching www.Tijuanasextours.comany of you guys tried it yet?
Ilikebigbutts
12-15-09, 19:52
Does anyone know of a bus or shuttle that runs form the Zona Centro to San Ysidiro. And also how do you get on the bus that takes you to the front of the line at the pedestrian crossing back to US?
For my next TJ trip I am planning on setting up a TLN with 2 chicas. This is something I have never done before but have thought about it forever.
Does anyone know if there is a DVD player in the room at Hotel Villa de Zaaragoza. I wanted to bring down my favorite porn DVD to watch. Also is it legal to carry such a DVD in Mexico? I can certainly just skip the DVD. I know last time I stayed at the Tiucan it didn't have a DVD player.
I didn't want to use the Premier or Mansion hotel as I had arranged for the 2 chicas to come at different times to get 11h of service. I will post back about how it went. I wasn't sure about having a 2nd girl show up at the Premier hotel. Anybody ever done that?
I have this setup for Karen and Alexia from LLA. I have used Karn before and she speaks perfect english so I figure that will help communicate. I am not sure if this will be worth the cost but needed to try it.
Country John
12-16-09, 01:59
For my next TJ trip I am planning on setting up a TLN with 2 chicas. This is something I have never done before but have thought about it forever.
Does anyone know if there is a DVD player in the room at Hotel Villa de Zaaragoza. I wanted to bring down my favorite porn DVD to watch. Also is it legal to carry such a DVD in Mexico? I can certainly just skip the DVD. I know last time I stayed at the Tiucan it didn't have a DVD player.
I didn't want to use the Premier or Mansion hotel as I had arranged for the 2 chicas to come at different times to get 11h of service. I will post back about how it went. I wasn't sure about having a 2nd girl show up at the Premier hotel. Anybody ever done that?
I have this setup for Karen and Alexia from LLA. I have used Karn before and she speaks perfect english so I figure that will help communicate. I am not sure if this will be worth the cost but needed to try it.
Wow.....a TLN with two girls? Sounds like a helluva time!
Zaragoza would not have a DVD player and yes, you can get into trouble if you are busted with a porn DVD in your possession. Technically it's illegal in Mexico. I'd leave it home. There should be porn on the TV in the room. If you need a porn show to get you running with two chicas in the room you should get your wanker examined!!
I will be watching for your TR.
Good luck.
Country John
Wow.....a TLN with two girls? Sounds like a helluva time!
Zaragoza would not have a DVD player and yes, you can get into trouble if you are busted with a porn DVD in your possession. Technically it's illegal in Mexico. I'd leave it home. There should be porn on the TV in the room. If you need a porn show to get you running with two chicas in the room you should get your wanker examined!!
I will be watching for your TR.
Good luck.
Country John
OK, I will just leave the DVD at home. I was thinking about getting the DVD to watch while I have 2 chicas go for a dual BBBJ.
I decided to splurge on the pay for play activities one night. I am setting the evening up to have greek (first time) and then 2 chicas (first time). I also asked to have the chicas show up at different times so I can have longer time with each of them and try for a later in the morning romp with just one.
Netman,
FYI, there is a quite negative review of Alexia on the oThER board from a monger with LOTS of Tijuana escort reviews. Of course, YMMV, but the Tijuana escort scene seems to be full of highly rated, reliable GFE. It sounded like Alexia was completely disinterested, and not GFE at all.
I'd hate for your first greek visit to be with someone who doesn't really dig it.
Sorry to possibly rain on the parade.
Best wishes.
Netman,
FYI, there is a quite negative review of Alexia on the oThER board from a monger with LOTS of Tijuana escort reviews. Of course, YMMV, but the Tijuana escort scene seems to be full of highly rated, reliable GFE. It sounded like Alexia was completely disinterested, and not GFE at all.
I'd hate for your first greek visit to be with someone who doesn't really dig it.
Sorry to possibly rain on the parade.
Best wishes.
I am a member on that board and saw that review right before my trip to TJ. I called LLA an switched the service to Karen and Karla. Marissa seemed very aware of the review and understood my want to change the situation. But thanks for the info. My trip to TJ was quite memorable and I will post a full trip report.
Looking forward to it!
Two weeks away from my own visit!
i had setup a tln with 2 chicas from lla service for my hotel room. just before leaving on my trip i read another reivew about alexia and decided that she was definitely not for me. i called marissa and she setup a different girl (karla) to do the tln. i have had a fantasy about being in a 3 way for a long time.
karen is great and her being fluent in english really helps. i had asked for her to arrive @ 9 and for karla to arrive @12. i had the goal of getting to a 4 pop this night which is not easy at my age, even with some vitamin v to help out.
karen arrives on time. the traffic down into mexico was horrible. it took 45m to get off of i-5 and to the parking lot. i called marissa and said i would be a little late but that was ok. after i got to the hotel karen showed up. i have seen her before and she remembered me. we talked for a little and then got started.
she gave me a very good bbbj with lots of slurping, ball licking, moaning, and deep throat until i popped #1. we then hung out in the room and talked. she gave me a good massage. she also had brought a bag full of toys. including vibrators, a clit massager with 9 speeds, and even anal beads. after the massage she was ready to mount me but i told here i wanted to wait until karla got there to have sex with both of them. we used the massager on her until she came.
karla was late. lla has good girls and low prices but the service can be flaky. karen could not get ahold of marissa. she finally found a drive 30m late and said karla would be here in 15-20m. this sort of sucks as she would be almost an hour late but ok. karen and i did some more kissing and massaging. karla finally arrives and karen goes to let her in. i had to pay a small amount to have 3 in the room. karla is almost freezing she had been outside waiting for the driver for 1h who was late. we put her in the middle and both of us warm her up with kissing and rubbing.
karen talks to karla (no english) and translates to me. both want me to write good reviews of them her and on another site and will do whatever i want. we start off with both of them giving me a bbbj. it is pretty amazing to have one girl sucking on you while one licks your balls. we then move into sex with me doing karen from behind while she is doing daty on karla. at one point i was doing daty while the other took turns bbbj. i finally finish with karla in missionary with karen from behind using the massager on my balls. the whole thing was pretty awesome. we hang out in bed and relax. we call the hotel and ask for a wake up call @ 4:00 for pop #3. when the phone rings i answer it. karla immediately starts to give me a bbbj and karen gets on top of her and starts using a vibrator on her. we then sort of form a triangle with karla giving me a bbbj, karen doing daty on karla, and me using a vibrator on karen. i figure pop #3 is going to take a while. we switch back and forth to all sorts of 2 girls on me action. i can't even remember it all. i didn't think i would pop again. after having sex with each for a while (different condoms) i finally pop with a bbbj and hand job from karla with karen sitting on my face. what an experience. i pay karen for her great service, leadership, and translations. karla will stay until 9 in the morning.
i immediately fall asleep. i ask for another wake up call @ 7:30 for pop #4. i wake up @ 7:15 really hard as i took v #2 @ 4:45. i wake up karla with some touching. she has already had 2-3 os so i figure just let her please me. karla is a nice girl but her breasts are really soft. she has dark skin, is fit, and is a willing provider and will do whatever you ask just i was not as turned on by her due to her breasts. she gives me a good 15-20m of bbbj and then mounts me. i do pop #4 after some missionary and doggy. the orgasm was fairly normal except almost not much came out. pop #3 was probably the most intense i can remember for some time.
karla gets a call @ 8:10 from marissa that the cab is there. normally i woul dhave said you were 1h late why leave early? marissa probably didn't even know karla was 1h late getting there. i was completely spent though so i said it was find and paid her.
overall this was a great experience. karen was willing to do anal she said but somehow i got a little unnerved about doing that in front of another girl. karen is about as good of service as you can ask for. she really needs to make some money and get referrals so she is really willing to please. i have seen 6 escorts in tj and she is by far the best in attitude and willingness. some are hotter but none give better service and you can talk to her and tell her whatever and she is ok with it.
karla is ok looking, great attitude, but average or below body. i probably would not use here again.
On the later part of my Day I wanted to do some other stuff I have never done. I had the idea of one day going for the hottest chica in AB and probably knew I would get lousy service. I found a young spinner the next evening. I was pretty worn our from the day before. I took on Vitamin V and had some drinks when I spotted this one. She is about 5'5" with natural breasts about 34/c and is 20 so she says. I have not seen here before. She hangs out in hottie central. I figured she would be bad service but I was going to take a while to pop so she was going to get some hard banging. I bought her a drink and she was OK and let me touch her breats and finger her under her bikinni shorts. So we go Arriba.
The experience was as you would expect from a 10". Condom on with her hands immediately. I very short and shallow CBJ. She then mounts me and we switch after 5m or so. I figure in the room for may 10m at this point. I start pounding her and she asks about finishing. I am glad I told her I only pay at the end and give a tip for great service. When I tried to kiss her tits she said no. She was trying to use her legs for smaller penetration but I push them away and bang at her. I then suggest doggy and she agrees. SHe asks about finishing and I say soon, but realize it will be a while. The sight of her cute little ass while I bang it is very nice. I took at least another 10m of hard banging to finally pop. I was really grabbing and pulling her ass around. The knock came as I was pulling out. I had been 35m by my watch. Good experience. Spent the rest of the night in HK drinking and grabbing as many tits as possible. I spent over $150 in there just on tips and a few ficha drinks. I also was in CC and Tropical and felt up quite a few ladies. There was a fight in Tropical this evening between 2 chicas. I got a little beer spilled on me. Last 2 times in TJ I have seen chica fights. I wonder if the down economy is putting more pressure on them.
For my last day in TJ I decided to go really pervert mode and do 2 SGs. One would be the oldest I could find and ask her to do BBBJ, CIM, but nothing else and one would be the youngest.
I got some more V and went hunting. I found a woman who could easily be 50 and was fairly large. She looked really suprised when I approached her. She stands across the alley near the corner of constitucion. I told her what I wanted and would pay $30 for it. The whole thing was so perverse is sort of turned me on. I didn't even ask her to take her cloths off which probably helped. I paid for the room for 1h ($15) and told her I would give her a tip for good service. I said I wanted lots of ball sucking and deep throating in my best spanish and BBBJ. I had written it down before so I could talk in spanish. She went at it as hard as you can. I tried not to look at her but the perverted fact was something I wanted to try out for a MILF. She is not old enough for my MIL but still this was a new low for me. Her oral sex was good. I finally came in her mouth. I hurried and left by myself so no monger would see me walking out with her.
I then went to HK and AB to grab tits and spent more on drinks and tips. I went out looking for the youngest SW I could find. Across the street on constitucion I saw a girl wearing the school girl stuff that looked 18. She said she was 18 and new to TJ. Not sure but she was young with small body. Maybe weighed 98 lbs. She would do for some hard pounding. Talked her into $30 for sin ropa, CBJ, and positions. She was OK but not great. She was sort of just laying there but in doggie seemed to like it and let me grab her tits. I popped off in doggie. My guess is she was 18 and the other woman was closer to 50, so there is perversion to an extreme.
I had 2 other things I wanted to try in TJ. I still want to hook up with Tania but I didn't this trip and I want to do Anal. I will call LLA back and do Anal but with only one chica. Next trip I will try the famous one as well.
The double chica date is something else but I am not sure if it is worth $600. After using escorts often this year I am having a harder time with the AB and SG stuff with CBJ, rushed service, and knocks on the door. Variety is good though and this trip I tried a lot of new stuff.
I think about how many chicas I want to do in the Zona and how little pops I have in me. When I was young I had lots of pops but not enough $$$ to do 5-6 a night. There is a paradox of life. I had GFs who would do sex 4-5 times but I got bored with the same girl.
I really enjoyed this TJ trip and spent quite a bit of money on hotels, taxis, Viagra, escorts ($650), ficha drinks, and the rest. The memories of the perversion == priceless.
Netman
Netman, thanx for the great TR.
IMHO, the very best BBBJs can be had from the oldest women. They have bags of experience, and to still be in the game at their age, well, they gotta offer something. Their looks certainly aren't it. :D
And I don't give a flying shit what others think if they see me with some granny. Fuck 'em! :D :D :D
Again, great TR.
Does anyone know of a bus or shuttle that runs form the Zona Centro to San Ysidiro. And also how do you get on the bus that takes you to the front of the line at the pedestrian crossing back to US?You want to take the red Mexicoach bus. It departs from the Mexicoach station on Revolution for the border crossing and then goes to a border parking lot. Last time I took the bus it was $5 one way.
What a great report.
Thanks Netman.
I may have to visit TJ again.
Desertratco
12-22-09, 20:51
I'm coming in to SD on Thursday evening and may be able to get over the border by 9:30 or so. Christmas Eve, so I dunno who will be available. I figure if nothing comes up (so to speak), I can always head back to the hotel and try tomorrow. It's been six months since my last visit, so it should be fun nonetheless. I'll report either way.
Does anyone know of a bus or shuttle that runs form the Zona Centro to San Ysidiro. And also how do you get on the bus that takes you to the front of the line at the pedestrian crossing back to US?It's not at the Mexicoach but the Intercalifornias Bus takes you through the pedestrian crossing. Of course you have to get off and go through the pedestrian line but you get the left most line which is reserved for bus riders. You then get back on the bus behind the McDonald's and it goes back toward L.A.
I really enjoyed this TJ trip and spent quite a bit of money on hotels, taxis, Viagra, escorts ($650), ficha drinks, and the rest. The memories of the perversion == priceless.
NetmanAwesome trip report! So how many pops did you have? I lost count after the bar trips. Also, lol at the girl bringing butt beads. Pre-used I bet. :D
Ninguno Especial
12-24-09, 04:13
I'm coming in to SD on Thursday evening and may be able to get over the border by 9:30 or so. Christmas Eve, so I dunno who will be available. I figure if nothing comes up (so to speak), I can always head back to the hotel and try tomorrow. It's been six months since my last visit, so it should be fun nonetheless. I'll report either way.
You should be able to find a chica worth the trip at Adelita or Hong Kong if not in the alley, Tropical, Chicago or Miami. A few on Constitution just North of the alley are honerable mentions, such as the "Ice Cream Corner". That is unless the padrote gave them the day off.
Desertratco
12-24-09, 05:43
You should be able to find a chica worth the trip at Adelita or Hong Kong if not in the alley, Tropical, Chicago or Miami. A few on Constitution just North of the alley are honerable mentions, such as the "Ice Cream Corner". That is unless the padrote gave them the day off.Yeah--if by "ice cream corner," you're referring to the NE corner of Constitucion and Cohoahuila, I've had some fun with those girls. They're usually dressed in plaid school-girl skirts. Kinda sexy, IMO. I usually take a lap around the alley and along Constitucion to see who is out, then pick one and go. I may even try a massage at Mermaids, just to see if it's worth it. I got a decent massage and experience at the MP on Ave Revolucion (can't remember the name, but I posted on it about a year and a half ago), so maybe this will work as well.
Thanks for the info.
Desertratco
12-24-09, 06:34
You should be able to find a chica worth the trip at Adelita or Hong Kong if not in the alley, Tropical, Chicago or Miami. A few on Constitution just North of the alley are honerable mentions, such as the "Ice Cream Corner". That is unless the padrote gave them the day off.Yeah--if by "ice cream corner," you're referring to the NE corner of Constitucion and Cohoahuila, I've had some fun with those girls. They're usually dressed in plaid school-girl skirts. Kinda sexy, IMO. I usually take a lap around the alley and along Constitucion to see who is out, then pick one and go. I may even try a massage at Mermaids, just to see if it's worth it. I got a decent massage and experience at the MP on Ave Revolucion (can't remember the name, but I posted on it about a year and a half ago), so maybe this will work as well.
Thanks for the info.
Country John
12-24-09, 20:33
Nice Trip report Netman, I'm convinced you had a great time and conducted yourself like a well seasoned monger. Good stuff.
I want to wish all you perverts out there in MongerLand a very happy and wholesome holiday experience. I look forward to reading your trip reports next year.
Country John
Merry Xmas all and to you Country Juan.
Desertratco
12-25-09, 18:33
boy, y'all were right. i crossed the border into tijuana at about 10: 30 on christmas eve. took a cab to the zona to take a look around. there were maybe a quarter of the number of girls on the street as usual. checked out the main bars. ab had far more mongers than girls-a change from the ordinary, in my experience. chicago was empty. i mean, zero girls, maybe 5 mongers. tropical had maybe 15 girls working and an equal amount of guys. hk was, well, hk, though with a smaller number of both girls and mongers.
competition was stiff but because of the travel and stress from it, i wasn't. nobody in the bars really was my speed-at least none of the available girls. i finally grabbed a street girl named cecile-very short, 20, stands in the alcove of the hotel just west of hk in the alley. cute, but kept one eye on the clock the whole time. did a nice, long cbj for me along with mish. wouldn't do other positions without more $$. damn. i know better-i should have asked. finished in a little more than the 20-got a couple of knocks on the door first.
stupid thing-i forgot my passport in the car. when i got to the border, i gave my drivers license to the cbp agent and explained my situation. he plugged me into the system and asked me some lame-ass "security" questions. where i was born, where i grew up, what hospital i was born in (to which i responded "beats the hell out of me-i was too young to notice"). i figure these kinds of questions are supposed to trip up someone that is trying to sneak in, but whatever. he let me in with a "don't forget again, please, " and off i went.
i'll be back a couple more times before i leave, so i'll let you know if things were any more eventful.
ttfn!
editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.
Ninguno Especial
12-25-09, 20:51
competition was stiff but because of the travel and stress from it, i wasn't. nobody in the bars really was my speed-at least none of the available girls. i finally grabbed a street girl
thanks for the quick report. i was just about to post one asking how it was on xmas eve. this evening things should pick up by 40 or 50% plus and saturday will be biz as usual for any chicas still in town.
DJ FourMoney
12-25-09, 22:45
Merry Xmas all and to you Country Juan.
Merry Christmas Efjayel, Rural John and the rest of the TJ gang...
I googled around but got no where except a nice youtube video showing a suite room at the Hacienda de Santiago motel. Does anyone know what is the rate for a basic room? Any chance for internet access in the room? Any intel would be appreciated.
Any recommendations of basic accommodations in the Zona? within walking distance to all the clubs?
Has anyone stayed at the Hacienda de Santiago motel? I found a video online that showed one of their suites and it looked very nice. Supposedly down the block from HK. Could not find anything online about the cost of their rooms per night? Any chance they would offer internet access in the room as well?
Any recommendations of inexpensive (under $50/night) Zona hotels where you can take a SG to & stay in overnight would be appreciated? I know live in SoCal so I would have to book a hotel anyway. Thought this might be an option.
Stupid thing-I forgot my passport in the car. When I got to the border, I gave my drivers license to the CBP agent and explained my situation. He plugged me into the system and asked me some lame-ass "security" questions. Where I was born, where I grew up, what hospital I was born in (to which I responded "beats the hell out of me-I was too young to notice"). I figure these kinds of questions are supposed to trip up someone that is trying to sneak in, but whatever.lol, I would have said, "Sorry, my eyes were closed the whole time so I didn't get the name of the hospital."
Also, thx DJ!
I am looking to come down during the week (from Tuesday. Friday). Can anyone recommend a hotel with safe, clean overnight rooms plus in-room internet access which you can take a SG to for short time without incuring extra costs? I need the internet for work so it has to be DSL quality.
Thanks in advance.
Desertratco
12-27-09, 19:23
Dropped into Tijuana on Saturday a little after noon. It was a nice day, so I decided to walk in-lots of tourists around and I figured the chances of being attacked by a ratero in broad daylight were slim.
Got to the zona and made the rounds of the paraditas. As predicted by Ninguno, volume was normal. Lots to choose from. I went into the Big 3 bars. There were quite a few girls around but it didn't seem as though the girl to monger ratio was that great. I walked over to Chicago and was stunned. No music was audible from the street. The door was open, but inside, there was nobody. No music, no bartender, no maseros, no girls, no mongers. Eerie. Even the coat check was closed. I've never seen that before.
Walked over to Mermaids to see if I could add a massage into my experience. The dude at the door said he'd call and bring a girl in that would suit my interest. I waited about fifteen minutes before leaving. I didn't really want to spend all day inside. Besides, the speakers were blaring a bunch of Norteño (?) music, complete with machine gun endings. Kind of creepy, if you ask me.
? Anyway, I walked back up Av. Constitucíon. Found a cute SG at the corner of Ave 123 and Constitucíon, standing in the alcove of the hotel there. 350 pesos for everything. I can't remember her name, though. She gave me a good time-as good as any SW I've had in Tijuana. Left her a little tip (400 pesos total) for being very nice.
Walked over to Av. Revo for some food. Stopped at the open-air taco shop I've frequented before-right under the big night club upstairs (damn. This CRS disease sucks-what's the name of that place?) I had a huge burrito with all the trimmings and a Coke for M$64. 00. You can't beat it.? Back to the zona. Chatted with a couple of SGs, then spotted a really cute spinner on the west side of Av. Cons. Between the callejon and Coahuila. Her name is Jocelyn. Looks 18, tight body. 300 pesos for the works. She was worth every peso-worked hard for her tip. Beautiful, no-baby body with an ever-so-slight pudge in the belly. Lovely pechos. She left me drained and I left her a 50 peso tip.? I checked my watch on the way back-4pm. I had spend 3 and a half hours. Wow.
Lines crossing the border were pretty long. I ended up in the line going to the one CBP agent that was slowing everything up. In all the other lines, people with passports were taking maybe 15 seconds to get cleared. This yahoo was taking 3 to 5 minutes for citizens, up to 10 minutes for non. And, of course, the moment I get to the front of the line, he walks off for a break. The young female agent in the next line looked over at his empty booth, rolled her eyes, and called me over to clear me. I smiled and thanked her. She was actually cute, but that's another story. I cleared in the requisite 15 seconds and strolled back to my car.
Member #4154
12-27-09, 20:03
this is my first time to tijuana. i am staying in tijuana with one of my american friends. it has been two days. my first day was on xmas day and yesterday was my second day.
i read a lot on the forums and knew what to expect. i have been to fkk in germany, thailand etc. this was a different experience. first of all, the girls were hotter than i expected. that is great. but at the same time, the service (adelita bar) left a little more to be desired. most girls don't kiss. the girls dont seem very eager to please (like say in thailand). they just want to finish you as soon as possible and head downstairs.
hey, i don't want to complain too much. you cross the border and you will be paying $20 for a lame lap dances and you cannot even touch :) here you get to screw a totally hot chica for 1/2 hour for what you would pay to 3 lap dances on the us side.
i have also enjoyed sitting around with my friend and enjoying the eye candy. it is nice that you can buy the girls some drinks and they come sit with you and play with you a little. i have spend couple of hours like that both in hong-kong and adelitas. in my opinion, for the 2 days i have spent here, i found the girls in adelitas hotter than in hong-kong. chicago was pretty much empty on xmas day. i walked in and out of other bars along the way. nothing caught my attention in those places.
some of the alley girls were totally hot. i have not tried any of the alley girls so far. they seem to have a strict menu of what they do and for how much more they will do it. i dont want to surprised later when i get to the room and they will ok, $10 more to take my top off etc. i dont want to deal with that bullshit.
btw, i dont know any spanish. so it is helpful that my american friend here has been helping me with all the translation. next time i come here i will certainly learn some spanish. helps a lot, especially when you buy chica a drink want to converse with her.
food is great. i am having a good time. in summary, the girls are hot and provide a good service. ways to go before i can classify this as gfe.
btw, i love getting massages. both therapeutic and sensual. can someone please suggest when i can get either of these. there are a few references to sensual massage on the board. any latest info on them. and where can get proper therapeutic massage.
thanks in advance.
I have worked very hard over the last 7 years to keep all of my trips to TJ completely unknown to anyone in the US. I have done some elaborate things to do that including only paying for cash for everything close to the border, no phone calls, only going solo, no souvenirs, no talking to anyone else about it, and carefully managing the cash flow in advance of trips.
However last trip I almost blew it. I purchased some gum in HK club. It looks just like the 12 small square packs you buy in the US except the words are all in spanish. I didn't realize until I got home about that. I saw it and immediately took it to a remote garbage can to dispose of it. In the future I will only buy gum in the US or leave what I buy in TJ in TJ.
Just in case nobody else thought of this until it is too late. It looks very similar unless you carefully look at it, or at least I thought so.
Happy holidays to all perverts out there and happy mongering.
Went this past Saturday the day after x-mas. My regulars weren't there so I ventured to some of the clubs.
First was Tropical. It was pretty much dead. Maybe 10 girls and more guys. Only one looked good to me and she was taken. Had one drink and left to walk the ally.
It was cold so there wasn't a whole lot of girls but one did catch my eye. There was a blond girl with a very pretty face in front of Cascadas. She gave me a smile, like she does with every other potential customer. I smiled back but for some reason I didn't stop to talk with her. My thinking was, go to h/k first and if I don't see anything I like, I would come back to this girl.
It was so slow, there was no beer buying at the door to get in. Or maybe I was too early. It was a busy crowd but not like a normal Saturday night. Didn't see any sash girls but there were a few in bikinis. In my opinion, they were the best looking girls I saw tonight. Unfortunately, they were all taken. Had a drink and left.
Went back to see if blondie was still outside. Sure enough, she was gone. As I walked past the entrance to the hotel, I see her in the restaurant next door. I figure, I would let her eat and come back to hook up later.
I walk to C/c.. Maybe 8 girls total with a handful of guys having drinks. There were a few I would have done but now my mind was on blondie.
From c/c I walk to l/c.. Boy talk about a surprise! Not with the women, but with the remodeling going on. As I walked in from the Adelitas side. The new bar is now on the right side. They closed off the left side which I assume they are remodeling. The only dance floor is the floor on the old Miami side. Again, not too many girls but there was one knockout. Tall thin with blond hair and you guessed it, taken!
So, I walk out the back side and look for blondie. She is gone. I walk around for about 20 minutes just to see if she is with someone. I even walked up the hill on the n/h street side. There was a big police presence, maybe because of the street bazzaar up the street. No hassles from them and it actually made me feel more comfortable walking around there.
Anyways, I get back to where blondie was standing and no go, not there. At least this will teach me to at least talk with the girls if I'am slightly interested. I usually do bar girls, but something about this one. Oh well, if anyone knows her, please let me know.
This was one of the few times, I left there with bullets in the belt. Hopefully, I can make it down this weekend or at least the next.
By the way I left there around 9:00 pm, so the night crew at the bars weren't in yet. I didn't want to hang around thinking most of the girls are back home. Man, I hate second guessing myself, should I stay or should I go. Sounds like a song ( lol ).
P.s. The exchange rate I got this past Saturday was 12.60
Desertratco
12-28-09, 10:37
Made another run into Tijuana Sunday night. Got there at 8:15 or so. Did the rounds of the SGs and the bars. Action is picking up again, though as the night went on, it seemed that the number of chicas was fewer both on the street and in the clubs. Still lots on vacation, I guess.
I decided to check out Mermaids, just to see if a masaje was worth the money. I went upstairs and was told there were three girls working. Julieta caught my eye. Pretty, 18, no niños. Not exactly a spinner, but a reasonably tight body. 500 pesos for the massage, plus tip for FS.
Massage was weak, to be nice about it. The host (for lack of a better word) said that the girls weren't professional masseuses, and he was correct. The worst part was that the lotion was cold. Yikes! Also, I'm used to US AMPs, where the masseuse usually does a little tease of the unit while performing the massage on the thigh area. This girl pretty much avoided the unit altogether.
After about 25 minutes of her fumbling around, I figured it was time for a little reverse massage. I had Julieta lie down and worked her over, giving special care to her panocha as I worked lower on her body. We flipped over and did a little DATY. She was either a good actress or was actually enjoying the oral and manual stimulation. She had her eyes closed and was quietly moaning the whole time. We put the glove on and went at it. Oral, mish, RCG. She worked hard for the finish, which took well over the allotted hour. Julieta never complained nor did she rush. We had to finish with a little HJ. I don't know what it is-when I visit AMPs in the US, I don't have problems finishing, but it's tougher in Tijuana. Maybe it's the raucous oompah music that permeates the rooms. I dunno.
Anyway, the total damage was MX$1250 (about $94 US, with the current exchange rate) for an hour and 15 minutes with a pretty, tight, friendly, hard worker (pun intended). This included the up-front house fee and Julieta's tip. I figure it was a bit more expensive than AB or HK, but with a bar girl, after adding in the girl's fee, the fichas, and the room charge, it pretty much evens out. I had fun, and that's what counts, I guess.
There was no line at the border on the way back-a huge change from yesterday. Of course, I came through yesterday at 5pm and tonight at 10: 45pm, so that make a difference. Still, even at that time of night, I've seen longer lines.
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Desertratco
12-28-09, 10:47
Anyways, I get back to where blondie was standing and no go, not there. At least this will teach me to at least talk with the girls if I'am slightly interested. I usually do bar girls, but something about this one. Oh well, if anyone knows her, please let me know.
P.S. The exchange rate I got this past Saturday was 12. 60I think I saw the same girl you did. I, too, thought about picking her up. She stands just to the west of Cascadas, not right in the little alcove, but along the wall closer to HK, correct?
It was the way she looked at me-wanton, yet somehow "innocent. " Yeah, I know, I know. None of them are in any way "innocent. Still, that's what her eyes said. I would have come back to see her, but on my way back, I ran into Jocelyn (see previous post) and ended up having a lot of fun with her. No regrets on my part.
I found a casa de cambio in San Ysidro where the exchange rate was $12. 50 on Christmas eve and at12. 869 on Saturday. You can do better than 12. 60 on the US side.
Super Gato
12-28-09, 22:07
Went this past Saturday the day after x-mas. My regulars weren't there so I ventured to some of the clubs.
By the way I left there around 9:00 pm, so the night crew at the bars weren't in yet. I didn't want to hang around thinking most of the girls are back home. Man, I hate second guessing myself, should I stay or should I go. Sounds like a song ( lol ).
I was down there from 10pm-1am. The night shift at AB/CC/HK was there, just not in the higher numbers you might see otherwise. Still a lot of my favoritas and some new faces did stick around. Most of the girls I spoke to before Christmas said they were staying in TJ over the holidays. My favorite at Adelita complained she it was slower than usual but her dance card was full most of the night. With a few fewer girls and a few fewer guys it wasn't nearly as crowded and hot inside the bars. This is the second day after christmas I've spend in the zona and probably not my last.
Hong Kong had the whole bar open (they'll close off part of the second floor during slow times of the week) but weren't requiring the mandatory drink to get in. Even with fewer people, it was still hotter than a mother inside.
Someone complained that Chicago was really slow when they were there on 12/26. For the most part, Chicago is totally dead before 10pm any night of the week and not just on holiday weekends. When I was there on 12/26 many of their a-list chicas were there in full effect. With fewer customers they weren't as excited about dancing through 3 full songs since hardly anyone was tipping.
I decided to check out Mermaids, just to see if a masaje was worth the money. I went upstairs and was told there were three girls working. Julieta caught my eye. Pretty, 18, no niños. Not exactly a spinner, but a reasonably tight body. 500 pesos for the massage, plus tip for FS.
Anyway, the total damage was MX$1250 (about $94 US, with the current exchange rate) for an hour and 15 minutes with a pretty, tight, friendly, hard worker (pun intended). This included the up-front house fee and Julieta's tip. I figure it was a bit more expensive than AB or HK, but with a bar girl, after adding in the girl's fee, the fichas, and the room charge, it pretty much evens out. I had fun, and that's what counts, I guess.Is this the normally expected pricing? 500 pesos for 60min massage & 750 peso tip for FS? Could you have skipped the massage and make out instead? Do the girls of Mermaids usually kiss?
Is this the normally expected pricing? 500 pesos for 60min massage & 750 peso tip for FS? Could you have skipped the massage and make out instead? Do the girls of Mermaids usually kiss?You can get an hour massage on Ave Rev at either Viva or Aztec for 300 pesos. You can get BG for 30 minutes for 600-700 pesos. Yes they are above normal prices. Is it worth getting both services for a higher price? I really dought it but YMMV.
Personally, I prefer the services done seprately and done right. 50% more time for about 30% off the price.
What are the options to get from San Diego airport to the border, besides bus/trolley and taxi?
I land in the airport around 9:30 PM. I took the bus/trolley before but it is a little bit scary at that hour, not to mention slow and uncomfortable.
Does anybody know about those vans/collectives they have at the airport? How fast, comfy, and affordable are they?
Any other options?
Desertratco
12-30-09, 06:28
You can get an hour massage on Ave Rev at either Viva or Aztec for 300 pesos. You can get BG for 30 minutes for 600-700 pesos. Yes they are above normal prices. Is it worth getting both services for a higher price? I really dought it but YMMV.
Personally, I prefer the services done seprately and done right. 50% more time for about 30% off the price.
You're probably right. However, I got an hour and 15 minutes with a pretty, responsive girl for the MX$1250 with no rush at all. No knock or anything, even when we went on after the allotted time. On a cool night outside, 75 minutes in a warm, relatively quiet, non-smoky environment playing touchy-feely with a pretty young girl is worth the extra money.
Could I have done cheaper at AB? Probably. In my experiences with BGs, though, the push to get done in a half hour is pretty strong--and, like I said, if you add in the room cost plus fichas, you're probably spending close to MX$1000 anyway for the half hour. As you said, YMMV.
I am looking to come down during the week (from Tuesday. Friday). Can anyone recommend a hotel with safe, clean overnight rooms plus in-room internet access which you can take a SG to for short time without incuring extra costs?
Thanks in advance.
I don't know of any hotels in the Zona that advertise internet access.
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