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Dornyone
08-06-10, 07:14
I just asked this on the thailand thread, but am planning on going to TJ in a couple of months so want to ask about Tijuana as well.

How bad is the smoke in the bars there? Hong Kong, AD, CC, etc. Also, do hotels like the Ticuan have decent non-smoking rooms and are they really non-smoking or do they have some smoke residue?

I ask because I am pretty allergic to smoke. Can probably manage a couple of hours in a club but could not stay overnight in a smoking room.

Thanks!
Bring your Zyrtec. Despite HK's best efforts, during weekend evenings, it's a smoky, hot, sausagefest. I'm not saying the other bars are better (although I like a less densely populated environment for mongering) but afternoons have been my favourite times there. I have less residue of any type on my clothes if I keep it to afternoons....:)

Still Learning
08-06-10, 07:22
Bring your Zyrtec...Thanks Dornyone (and Captain Solo). Hmmm, I may make my trip shorter than planned, and stick to street girls for most of it.

I hate Zyrtec, has some odd side effects. Clariton is not as effective for me, but will have to do.

QuackUp
08-06-10, 11:37
Still Learning,

I'am not a smoker and have stayed at the Ticuan. I asked for a non - smoking room, and that is what I got. I couldn't smell any kind of smoke. I did book the executive room or whatever they call it, so as not to hear any street traffic. The rooms are very nice.

Q

Phordphan
08-06-10, 16:27
I just asked this on the thailand thread, but am planning on going to TJ in a couple of months so want to ask about Tijuana as well.

How bad is the smoke in the bars there? Hong Kong, AD, CC, etc. Also, do hotels like the Ticuan have decent non-smoking rooms and are they really non-smoking or do they have some smoke residue?

I ask because I am pretty allergic to smoke. Can probably manage a couple of hours in a club but could not stay overnight in a smoking room.

Thanks!

Yes, evenings are much worse than days. It's not as bad as years past, maybe because fewer guys smoke, but you will come out smelling like an ash tray. It's just a matter of degree.

Super Gato
08-06-10, 22:15
I just asked this on the thailand thread, but am planning on going to TJ in a couple of months so want to ask about Tijuana as well.

How bad is the smoke in the bars there? Hong Kong, AD, CC, etc. Also, do hotels like the Ticuan have decent non-smoking rooms and are they really non-smoking or do they have some smoke residue?

I ask because I am pretty allergic to smoke. Can probably manage a couple of hours in a club but could not stay overnight in a smoking room.

Thanks!

Although not allergic, I'm pretty sensitive to cigarette smoke but I can manage the bars in TJ. The smoke isn't too bad in the big clubs. Hong Kong can be the worst because it packed to the gills with people and the air is just stifling. I really wished the pinche management would turn on the AC which would help air circulation. The other bars tend to be less crowded so it isn't so bad to find a place away from smokers. My favorite place to chill is over at Chicago Club where there's always room for you to find away from a smoker.

Note that a lot of chicas smoke but are polite and ask you if they can light up in front of you.

Super Gato
08-06-10, 22:45
I'll usually restock my supply of Maxifort at the farmacia next door to Milenio just across the street from the turnstiles, but it closes early and so Milenio is my fallback. But it closes at 10pm. The other night I showed up at 950pm and they were already closed. I asked a taxi to take me to a pharmacy on the way to Adelita and the first random little farmacia he stopped at wanted to sell me one pill for $10! Considering the place next to Mlilenio sells bottles of 10 for $40, or Milenio has a 4 tablet bottle for $20 I was a little surprised. The taxista took me to a place on the next block that sold the 4 pack for $30 which I ended up taking since I didn't want to spend all night and more taxi fare looking for a better deal.

Are there better late night pharmacies on the way to Zona Norte I can go to if I get to TJ too late for the places right at the border? I'm interested in either the Maxifort generic or Viagra® at a good price that I don't have to drive around all night to get to. And no, I don't want to buy my medication from the bathroom attendant in the bar.

Ho Lover1
08-07-10, 04:27
How bad is the smoke in the bars there? Hong Kong, AD, CC, etc. Also, do hotels like the Ticuan have decent non-smoking rooms and are they really non-smoking or do they have some smoke residue?

I ask because I am pretty allergic to smoke. Can probably manage a couple of hours in a club but could not stay overnight in a smoking room.

Thanks!I am allergic to smoke also. I haven't found the bars in TJ to be all that bad. I do have a problem there though, with the smoke from the taco stands.

Still Learning
08-07-10, 06:42
...Ticuan. I asked for a non - smoking room, and that is what I got. I couldn't smell any kind of smoke.Thanks Q! That is exactly what I needed to hear.

Thanks also to everyone else with the hints and further info about smoke in bars and outside.

Been planning this trip all year but have not been able to go for one reason or the other. I really need to make it happen in the next two months before everything rusts away.

Phordphan
08-08-10, 19:55
This place used to advertise in ISG. They are manufacturer of generic drugs in India.

Their generic Viagras work great, but variations of generic Cialis are just duds. They have many cheap deals, giving you frees samples with orders etc... You should order a few kilos to make sure you never run out of ammo...hehe:

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As an added benefit after using these people, you will be treated to some Indian cocksucker calling you, using a hijacked caller ID, and telling you they want to deliver ED meds to your door, just approve it, etc. etc. Forget about telling them not to call. They will call right back, and they call anywhere from 2 to 5 times a day, 3 or 4 days a week. As their ID is consistent, I block it. But they change IDs from time to time.

I tried them once, because their prices were reasonable, they give you several freebies when you order, the stuff shows up on time. What's not to like? A couple of months later, these bullshit calls started. Coincidence? I don't think so.

Phordphan
08-08-10, 23:55
this joint apparently opened their doors in may of this year. it's located on the sw corner of the alley and constitucion, across the street from the cop shop and the cambio. (note: the cambio tends to offer great rates during the day, 12.5:1 on saturday at around 7:00pm. but later at night, the rate drops. 12.1:1 at around 11:30pm.)

it's a small place, about the size of the old las chavelas, but there is a second floor balcony. the ground floor has a bar on the left as you enter, and a shitload of level changes. beware if you're drunk, or clumsy, or are trying to walk and ogle the girls simultaneously. :) there is a fair-sized dance floor to the right as you enter, below ground level, surrounded by booths and a couple of the horseshoe-shaped things the girls at hk stand in to dance. there is one pole in the middle of the floor. the top balcony surrounds the dance floor. the privados are up here (there may be a couple tucked away on the ground floor, too, but i did not see them). they are basically an alcove with a bench, a small table for the cubeta and a curtain covering the entrance. i note that the waiters will open the curtain and peer inside, without warning, from time to time. :(

the music is basically what you'll hear at tropical, but at a slightly less ear-splitting volume. same type of dj, talking too loudly, and too closely, into a shitty microphone. at 7:30pm there was one chica dancing, but not stripping. then they pretty much seem to clear the floor and the patrons are free to dance with the chicas. i understand later they start to strip, but i was not there past about 10:00. hk this ain't. not that that's a bad thing. i think the same gang owns both, and they are smart enough not to cannibalize their hk business. there appears to be a market for both.

the beers are priced fairly, at 18p per. i like that better than 2 x 1 at 35p (or whatever), as i always feel obligated to drink the 2nd beer, whether i want it or not. the fichas are $7, or about 84p, each. i understand quite often the pony beers are water.

a privado will set you back $40, or 6 ficha beers. for that you get the privilege of going behind the curtain with your chosen, for as long as it takes her to guzzle them. what goes on is up to the two parties, as long as you don't mind a mesero audience from time to time. :(

i do not know the going rate for an arriba here. i assume they ask for the moon, but take far less. the hotel is the najera. i think they bumped their prices a bit, as a room for 1/2 hour is 70p. but that was the "honeymoon suite" overlooking the callejon, and had a shower. i don't remember if the other rooms have a shower. the first knock came right at 30 minutes, the second, a bit more insistent, at about 40. i exited at roughly 45, to a very sullen and pissed-off looking chambermaid. i just looked at her and walked past. it's not like they had a line of customers waiting. she went in and wordlessley picked up the 10p coin i left for her.

the girls range all over the joint, from chubby to thin, short, tall and in-between. young and not-so-young. i don't think you'll find any 10s here, but there were several 7s, a couple of 8s. also a couple of 2s, but to each his own. i think if your preference runs more to the mexican taste, you'll be happy.

the place is pretty smoky. the seating upstairs is ok, with a good view of the club, but smoke tends to rise. :( however, the a/c system appeard to work pretty well, and it was never hot or stuffy.

i will say that the meseros are every bit as annoying as the ones in hk. the fuckwits in management will never learn. i understand that you have to have ficha drinks to spend time with the ladies. being pestered every 5 minutes when her glass is starting to look a bit low is very offputting, and i have been known to say fuck it and walk. i also hate somebody coming along a 3 minute intervals, picking up my beer and shaking it. there's plenty of pussy in zn, you don't have to put up with too much bullshit. ms. s smuggled in a bottle of coke, and would refill her glass from time to time, whenever the ficha nazis weren't looking! :d

all in all it really reminds me of tropical, at a reduced volume. which is not a bad thing. reasonably priced cervezas, arribas probably in the 500p neighborhood, and a 70p hotel. maybe i can overlook the freaking meseros and their antics. it's probably worth a repeat.

Super Gato
08-08-10, 23:59
This place used to advertise in ISG. They are manufacturer of generic drugs in India.

Their generic Viagras work great, but variations of generic Cialis are just duds. They have many cheap deals, giving you frees samples with orders etc... You should order a few kilos to make sure you never run out of ammo...hehe:

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1-800-305-436 (Australia Toll Free)
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Thanks. But I'm actually looking for a place in town that I can just stop by on the way to the bar.

DJ FourMoney
08-09-10, 00:09
Thanks. But I'm actually looking for a place in town that I can just stop by on the way to the bar.

Costco sells the stuff and I pharmacies in the Zona have V and C.

Super Gato
08-09-10, 01:49
Costco sells the stuff and I pharmacies in the Zona have V and C.

Costco closes at 9. What I was hoping to find was a place with decent prices open after 10.

Mr Enternational
08-09-10, 05:40
Article in the paper today:
TENANCINGO, Mexico — In this impoverished town in central Mexico, a sinister trade has taken root: entire extended families exploit desperation and lure hundreds of unsuspecting young Mexican women to the United States to force them into prostitution.Those who know the pimps of Tlaxcala state — victims, prosecutors, social workers and researchers — say the men from Tenancingo have honed their methods over at least three generations.

They play on all that is good in their victims — love of family, love of husband, love of children — to force young women into near-bondage in the United States.

The town provided the perfect petri dish for forced prostitution. A heavily Indian area, it combines long-standing traditions of forced marriage or "bride kidnapping," with machismo, grinding poverty and an early wave of industrialization in the 1890s that later went bust, leaving a displaced population that would roam, looking for elusive work.

Added to that, says anthropologist Oscar Montiel — who has interviewed the pimps about their work — is a tradition of informal, sworn-to-silence male groups. He believes that, in the town of just over 10,000, there may be as many as 3,000 people directly involved the trade. Prosecutors say the network includes female relatives of the pimps, who often serve as go-betweens or supervisors, or who care for the children of women working as prostitutes.

A pimp Montiel identified only by his unprintable nickname said his uncle got him started in the business and that he has since passed the techniques on to his brother and two sons. Federico Pohls, who runs a center that tries to help victims, says established pimps will sometimes bankroll young men who aspire to the profession but lack the clothes, money and cars to impress young women.

Dilcya Garcia, a Mexico City prosecutor who did anti-trafficking work in Tenancingo, confirms that many boys in the town aspire to be pimps.

"If you ask some boys, and we have done this, 'Hey what do you want to be when you grow up?' They reply: 'I want to have a lot of sisters and a lot of daughters to make lots of money.'"

The Tenancingo pimps troll bus stations, parks, stores and high schools in poverty-stricken areas of Mexico, according to prosecutors who have raided their operations in Mexico City — often the "proving ground" where women are tried out as prostitutes before being moved to the U.S.

The pimps use a combination of threats, mistreatment, unkept promises of marriage and jobs, that send their victims on a slippery slope that usually ends in the filthy alleys near Mexico City's La Merced. There, the women are isolated and sometimes forced to service dozens of male clients a day.
Garcia, who has dealt extensively with the victims, says some pimps even show up with fake "parents" to convince women they are serious about commitment.

"The way they fish for their victims is very cruel, very Machiavellian, but very effective," said Garcia. "When somebody is isolated, or unprotected, they are the perfect victim."

A young victim who agreed to speak to The Associated Press fit that profile perfectly. She asked not to be identified because she fears retaliation from her pimp's family.

Miguel Rugerio was charming and sweet when she met him in her impoverished hometown in the gulf coast state of Tabasco, she said.

He wooed her with sweet words and promises — good jobs in the U.S. for both of them with lots of money to send home to build a house in Mexico for their future. He wanted to meet her parents — a sure sign of a serious relationship in Mexico — and said he wanted to marry her.

She couldn't believe her good fortune.

But after he got her to Tenancingo he quickly changed. When the girl, just 17 at the time, wanted to go home for her sister's 15th birthday, he said no.

"I thought he was joking, and he said he wasn't joking, that I couldn't go home," she said. "I told him I would escape, and he said he would find me and make a scene in my hometown."

He got upset and locked her in a room.

"He told me that because I was his woman I had to stay with him," she said.

He finally said she could go home for a day for her sister's party but that if she didn't come right back, he'd hurt her family. When she returned to him after the party, he and his family started to mistreat her — abusing her, humiliating her and making her do all the housework.

A few weeks later, he brought her to Mexico City and forced her to work as a prostitute.

"He told me that if I didn't do it, he was going to hurt my sister and my family," she said. "I was very afraid of him."

A typical scenario, prosecutors say, involves an elaborate sham of a marriage — sometimes with false papers and names — before the pimp feigns a sudden financial crisis that would put the couple out in the street. The pimp then casually mentions a friend whose wife "worked" them out of the problem, noting, "If you love me, you'd do that for me."

Sometimes the tactics are more violent.

Garcia tells of an 18-year-old woman who was picked up by a Tenancingo pimp; her 1½-year-old baby girl was placed in the care of one of his female relatives, and the woman was then taken to a down-at-the-heels Mexico City hotel and made to serve dozens of clients per day, for around 165 pesos ($12) apiece. When she resisted, the pimp told her, "If you don't do what I'm asking you to, you'll never see your daughter. You'll see what we'll do to your daughter."

Mostly, the pimps concentrate on isolating women, lying to them, and breaking down their self-esteem.

The victim who spoke to the AP described it this way: Her pimp, Rugerio, humiliated her, pulled her hair, withheld food and told her that she had to practice sex acts on him so she would perform well with the clients.

"I didn't like it," she said. "I felt ugly and it was very painful."

Rugerio told her he would send her to the U.S. and that he'd join her a bit later. After walking through the desert, she was sent to a nondescript apartment complex in suburban Atlanta, where she was met by two women and a man who, she was told, were related to Rugerio.

One of the women took her shopping for clothes. Even though it was September and starting to get chilly, the woman selected mostly short, tight skirts and tops and told her she'd have to start working the next day.

"I asked them what kind of work I would be doing," the young victim said. "She took out a bag of condoms and then I knew."

Her minders kept her in a small, sparsely furnished apartment, isolated from any other girls and mostly ignored her during the day. Around 4 p.m., a driver would come pick her up to take her to work. In the beginning, she had sex with between five and 10 men a night, but as time went on the number got as high as 40 or 50, mostly Latino men.

"I felt like the worst woman in the world," she said, her voice cracking and tears welling up in her eyes during an interview with the AP three years later. "I felt that if my family found out, they would be so disappointed because of what I was doing."

She thought about escaping many times, she said, but she was afraid because Rugerio had told her that if she left, the police would arrest her and toss her in jail. She also didn't know anyone, didn't have any money and didn't know where to go.

Miraculously, one night, when she got into the car that came to take her to work, a woman from her hometown was inside. She said she had been prostituted by a relative of her pimp but that the driver had helped her escape and they would help her escape too. With the help of the driver, she got away and eventually wound up testifying against her former pimp.

The 28-year-old Rugerio was sentenced in February to five years in federal prison in the U.S. for helping smuggle young women from Mexico to Atlanta and forcing them into prostitution.

But many others aren't caught.

"We've always suspected the problem is larger than we know about," said Brock Nicholson, deputy special agent in charge of the Atlanta division of the federal Department of Immigration and Customs Enforcement. "Oftentimes, victims are very reluctant to come forward."

Those arrested on suspicion of forced prostitution almost never admit it.

Of three suspected pimps captured in raids on Mexico City hotels whose testimony the AP gained access to, all denied the charges against them; they said they were merely guests or employees of the hotel.

And while some in Tenancingo will admit pimps do operate there — resident Josue Reyes says "a few people have given the town a bad name" — others are seemingly in denial, despite the inexplicably luxurious houses that crowd the otherwise dusty, impoverished town.

The three-story homes with elaborate ironwork and Greek-inspired cornices are "safe houses" used by the pimps to awe — and then confine — their victims, said Federico Pohls, a human rights activist who works with victims.

Not so, says Maximino Ramirez, the secretary of the Tenancingo town council.

The structures were "built on hard work," he said, pointing to his own compound of three houses. Indeed, he said, all the palatial homes were built with money sent home by migrants working in restaurants and other businesses in the United States.

He dismissed the claims of the women.

"In this day and age, in the 21st century, are you going to tell me that a woman of 18 or 20 can be tricked?" he asked. "Maybe they went into (prostitution) of their own free will, and then after a while, they say: You know what? They forced me to."

But town residents have another name for the imposing houses. In the local Indian language, they call them "Calcuilchil" — literally, Houses of Ass.

It is an open secret. In 2008, a group of sociologists asked 877 residents of Tlaxcala if they knew of any place where [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) was occurring; 132 mentioned Tenancingo and an adjoining village — about 10 times more than any other locality.

How can such a trade flourish without police interference? Bautista, the Mexico City prosecutor, says it would be impossible without corruption.

Tlaxcala police say it is difficult to catch such crimes at their point of origin, because the full gravity of the crime has not yet been realized, even by the victims, when they are in Tenancingo. Some are held or mistreated, but usually by men they believe to be their husbands. Most have not yet been prostituted.

State prosecutors' spokeswoman Judith Soriana says only about a half dozen people have been prosecuted under laws against [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) in the last couple of years. She denies it's a particular problem in the state, saying "it has been blown out of proportion."

"There is nothing that indicates it is particularly high in this area," Soriana said. "Pimping isn't a problem exclusive to this state, it happens everywhere in the world."

Dornyone
08-09-10, 06:25
lying to them, and breaking down their self-esteem.
Now I KNOW nobody here would stoop to such a tactic in getting the best price....

Phordphan
08-09-10, 07:43
After a cabeza taco at the corner of Con. and Calle Primero (not recommended) and an al pastor and a carne asada taco on NH near HK, I was ready for a bit of a stroll.

I was avoiding Tropical, because Ani had been texting me, wondering when I was gonna come see her. AB looked a lot like the old pre-recession days. What a sausage fest... :( Chicago was looking a bit like its glory days. And, yes, that mesera is pretty hot. This was around 10:30 - 11:00.

There were certainly a bunch of attractive SGs out and about, but I wasn't ready. So, I took a flyer and went into Playboy. I'd poked my head in a long time ago, but wasn't impressed. This time I figured I'd force myself.

I let the tout lure me in, which wasn't too tough once I saw the completely nekkid lady spinning around the pole. :)

The "catwalk" runs along the right as you enter, with a larger "stage" at the end of the catwalk, complete with pole and ring. there are seats all along the catwalk, around the stage and in the back of the place. And a few seats for the girs to sit while waiting for customers or for their turn to dance.

No sooner was I seated by the stage then a tallish, flacita, piel blanca chica, wearing nothing but a visor and a g-string, started crawling into my lap. Well, what's not to like? The mesero was on us like stank on shit, and I ordered a ficha drink for her. She had lovely A-cups, with luscious pink nips. Pretty, except for a bit of a hook nose. She was very animated and rambunctious, probably slightly chemically induced. But she was good, spacing the drink out properly, doing all sorts of bump and grind. At one point she was playing with her nipples, and she assured me that they would squirt milk. I looked surprised, so she pulled and squeezed, and she wasn't joking. :eek:

During our grope session, the mesero came over and asked if I wanted to go to the hotel. I told hiim no. Later he came by and asked if I spoke Spanish. I told him a little. That was his cue to do his auctioneer impression, trying to explain the privado system in 15 seconds or less. So, I may have missed a few things. Somebody can correct me, but I think it was 6 fichas, and you could go into the privado and do whatever you wanted, no extra charge. Again, maybe somebody can fill in the details. I wasn't in the market yet, and begged off.

When I politely refused to buy another ficha, the milkmaid kissed me and moved, after a 20p tip, to the guy next to me. I watched a few dancers. Whether linda or feo, they all danced with quite a bit of energy. They could teach their Bangkok sisters a thing or two about dancing. Interesting thing, as far as I could tell, there was virtually no tipping.

A bit later, a mesera tapped me on the shoulder and plopped a very thin, dark-skinned cutie on my knee. I was going to shoo them away, but, WTH. So, I ordered up a drink for her. Just my type, thin, nice A cups, dark, beautiful long black hair. She did not have the experience of the other girl, and tended to guzzle her drink. She was affectionate, and did some bump and grind, but she seemed pretty new. She said she was 19, and that was probably pretty accurate. Then she told me she had a kid, 4 years old. You do the math. That's one thing I will never understand about peasant cultures. Getting knocked up at 14, a mom at 15, and a single mom shortly thereafter. She pointed out a girl on the stage and assured me that this chica was her sister. Of course, I had to tip sis 20p. So, I guess it's a family affair. I mentioned to her that there were few gringos there, and she told me that was usually the case. I think I was the only one in there at the time.

Hey 19 tried to get me to buy another drink, but I wasn't going there. So, I tucked a 20p note into her bra and, with a quick kiss she was off. I exchanged my 2nd beer for a colder one, and settled in to finish it and watch the dancing. It's kinda nice to do things like the locals. The women were all ages, shapes and sizes. There was one dancer who looked to be at least an 8.5. Several 6s and 7s. A chubby 3. One lady was 45+, quite bit of cellulite in the ass, bleached blonde hair and tasteful implants. She had no business stripping, but, hey. One man's trash...

As I was finishing the second beer, during a rather passionate song I'd never heard before, a 20-something brunette climbed into my lap. More shapely than her sisters, but still thin, with a body that was a delight to hug. She kept looking deep into my eyes and singing along with the song. She'd probably be good at karaoke. Of course the mesero was all over this, but I refused, saying I was leaving. She asked for a cerveza, but I had to politely decline. She then kept singing and staring into my eyes. She might've been a hoot, but it was time to go hit the alley. I didn't want to completely deplete my party fund. :)

So, all in all, a good time was had. Your taste has to run more to "local" tastes, but there were certainly plenty of flacas. Some Spanish appears to be a must, although one mesero did appear to be willing to translate, should I wish to negotiate with a chica. It wasn't necessary, but they do appear willing to accomodate the stray gringo. :D

Sound7
08-10-10, 01:38
Interesting reporting.. how current is it ?

Tijuana vs Tlaxcala

A trip to TJ is lot safer than going to the source (Tijuana vs Tlaxcala).

Report of Russian and Eastern women coming via the same above source in the past (2004).

Border crossing is more complex now unless a tunnel is built.
It used to be $$ fee for the guide to Santa Anna designation in the past.


Article in the paper today:

TENANCINGO, Mexico — In this impoverished town in central Mexico, a sinister trade has taken root: entire extended families exploit desperation and lure hundreds of unsuspecting young Mexican women to the United States to force them into prostitution.Those who know the pimps of Tlaxcala state — victims, prosecutors, social workers and researchers — say the men from Tenancingo have honed their methods over at least three generations.

It is an open secret. In 2008, a group of sociologists asked 877 residents of Tlaxcala if they knew of any place where [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) was occurring; 132 mentioned Tenancingo and an adjoining village — about 10 times more than any other locality.

How can such a trade flourish without police interference? Bautista, the Mexico City prosecutor, says it would be impossible without corruption.

Tlaxcala police say it is difficult to catch such crimes at their point of origin, because the full gravity of the crime has not yet been realized, even by ...

Mike Yepthatsm
08-10-10, 03:22
Are drugs like viagra and cialis still available without a prescription?

Can you still buy antibiotics without a prescription?

Phordphan
08-10-10, 18:09
Are drugs like viagra and cialis still available without a prescription?

Can you still buy antibiotics without a prescription?

I think the answer you're looking for is yes. They are.

However, it is illegal to bring them back with you without a US doctor's prescription. So, bear that in mind if you're gonna buy a bunch of pills.

Surfnay01
08-10-10, 22:52
Hi all listen up.

National News in Mexico City reported on TV the other night that ALL Antibiotics will have to have a Doctor's Prescription to obtain starting Aug. 25, 2010. Ugh. By the way I live here most of the year in Mexico.

I think it has to do that Mexico has bowed under pressure to limit the to frequent use of Antibiotics since it take no prescription right now. Too much unneeded us of Antibiotics can lead to many strains of Bacteria being immune to the Antibiotics. At least that's my take on it.

Want to see what's banned (without a Dr. Prescription) just stop at your local Pharmacy in Mexico and ask them to show you the list. I think there's about 50 items last that I saw it on the list. Most of those because of mis use by Gringo's.

But, you can stop by a Pharmacy with a small Doctor's office attached and ask for a Prescription. That consultation can cost as little as $25. 00 pesos. Just bring your Prescription or empty bottle of pills from the States with your name on it and showing what it was and probably pretty easy to get a Dr. To prescribe it for you cheap.

Then you can take legally back across a "reasonable amount of the Prescription" back with you. Maybe as much as 2 months worth? Just bring back the Mexican Drs. Prescription with you.

Sorry for all of us this intrusion no our own health rights, but that's the way it will be after Aug. 25, 2010. We're stocking up some before that date.

Adios

Party God
08-11-10, 07:27
Are drugs like viagra and cialis still available without a prescription?

Thought that was hilarious that you can buy them in the bathroom at HK! Well at least they had a sign saying so.

Mike Yepthatsm
08-11-10, 22:11
Are there any pharmacies near the border that have a doctors office attached?

That sucks about the new law and the sale of antibiotics


Hi all listen up.

National News in Mexico City reported on TV the other night that ALL Antibiotics will have to have a Doctor's Prescription to obtain starting Aug. 25, 2010. Ugh. By the way I live here most of the year in Mexico.

I think it has to do that Mexico has bowed under pressure to limit the to frequent use of Antibiotics since it take no prescription right now. Too much unneeded us of Antibiotics can lead to many strains of Bacteria being immune to the Antibiotics. At least that's my take on it.

Want to see what's banned (without a Dr. Prescription) just stop at your local Pharmacy in Mexico and ask them to show you the list. I think there's about 50 items last that I saw it on the list. Most of those because of mis use by Gringo's.

But, you can stop by a Pharmacy with a small Doctor's office attached and ask for a Prescription. That consultation can cost as little as $25. 00 pesos. Just bring your Prescription or empty bottle of pills from the States with your name on it and showing what it was and probably pretty easy to get a Dr. To prescribe it for you cheap.

Then you can take legally back across a "reasonable amount of the Prescription" back with you. Maybe as much as 2 months worth? Just bring back the Mexican Drs. Prescription with you.

Sorry for all of us this intrusion no our own health rights, but that's the way it will be after Aug. 25, 2010. We're stocking up some before that date.

Adios

Super Gato
08-12-10, 02:26
People were taking antibiotics for H1N1 and the common cold. Antibiotics do nothing for viral infections except help make the antibiotics ineffective against future bacterial infections. This isn't just a Mexico thing, this is a global thing where doctors all over the world would hand out antibiotics like tic tacs. Now there are antibiotic resistant strains of bacterial infections all over. Specific to readers of this forum: there are antibiotic strains of syphilis in the wild now.


Then you can take legally back across a "reasonable amount of the Prescription" back with you. Maybe as much as 2 months worth? Just bring back the Mexican Drs. Prescription with you.
Adios

For US residents, a Mexican prescription at the US border is about as effective as a note from your mom.


U.S. residents entering the United States at international land borders who are carrying a validly obtained controlled substance (other than narcotics such as marijuana, cocaine, heroin, or LSD), are subject to certain additional requirements. If a U.S. resident wants to bring in a controlled substance (other than narcotics such as marijuana, cocaine, heroin, or LSD) but does not have a prescription for the substance issued by a U.S.-licensed practitioner (e.g., physician, dentist, etc.) who is registered with, and authorized by, the Drug Enforcement Administration to prescribe the medication, the individual may not import more than 50 dosage units of the medication into the United States. If the U.S. resident has a prescription for the controlled substance issued by a DEA registrant, more than 50 dosage units may be imported by that person, provided all other legal requirements are met.

Please note that only medications that can be legally prescribed in the United States may be imported for personal use. Be aware that possession of certain substances may also violate state laws. As a general rule, the FDA does not allow the importation of prescription drugs that were purchased outside the United States. Please see their Web site for information about the enforcement policy for personal use quantities. http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/vacation/kbyg/prohibited_restricted.xml

Ath Trainer
08-12-10, 11:06
People were taking antibiotics for H1N1 and the common cold. Antibiotics do nothing for viral infections except help make the antibiotics ineffective against future bacterial infections. This isn't just a Mexico thing, this is a global thing where doctors all over the world would hand out antibiotics like tic tacs. Now there are antibiotic resistant strains of bacterial infections all over. Specific to readers of this forum: there are antibiotic strains of syphilis in the wild now.


For US residents, a Mexican prescription at the US border is about as effective as a note from your mom.

The guy in the Hong Kong bathroom has V, C and has Mexican prescriptions. He also has notes from your mom (and can write them in English or Spanish).

Blourghus
08-13-10, 00:35
i personally have brought back personal quantities of viagra or cialis on many of my trips to mexico and usa customs has always waved it on. i have done this personally many dozens of times. i always declare it (it works well for me for "what are you bringing back from mexico?", and is totally compatible with my stated purpose). almost always they smile, a lot of times they ask me how many bringing (always 10 or less) and often they will ask, "hey, man, does that stuff really work?" i have never had any type of prescription for it in usa or mexico, and have never had any type of issue whatsoever.

controlled medications are a totally different story (note that v/c are not in this category - it mainly covers painkillers, sleeping pills, steroids, etc.)
my understanding (based on talking to mexico doctors and usa customs agents) is that a mexico prescription is part of what makes it "validly obtained". in mexico when you buy something which requires a prescription, the pharmacy keeps the original prescription. the doctor will also write a special copy specifically for bringing across the border, clearly marked as copy, which can be shown to the customs agent (along with receipt from pharmacy). it is not really a prescription but part of documentation of where you obtained the medication. i doubt that any customs agents are trained to read prescriptions from any country.

i have also declared and brought schedule iv controlled substances back without usa prescription (with mexico prescription), although it gets a lot more scrutiny than v/c. they'll question me and ask specifically what it is for and why i need it. my understanding is that the reason for this is to ensure it's actually for my own personal use. i always show it to the customs agents and ask "am i allowed to bring this back?" before they even ask what i'm bringing back, in the hope that the worst they would do is confirep001e is it. i personally doubt they would do anything worse than confirep001e it if approached in this manner as long as it a small quantity and not something which is abused. the last thing you want is to be caught smuggling prescription medications across the border. on another note, i also have found controlled medications substantially harder to get in tijuana compared to other border cities in mexico. i have been told by several tijuana pharmacists that they are unavailable when i have gone looking.

i am not a lawyer and would certainly suggest anybody considering this to consult with an attorney (as well as a physician) for their specific situation. this practice is treading on vague legal ground, and while usa customs may be tolerant of it, other state/federal agencies, including those which a traveler might be subject to search to while returning home, might not be.




i have purchased viagra several time at hong kong when i'm in a hurry. it is the good stuff. 100 mg. some of the most potent stuff i've ever taken. it is expensive though, the guy always charges me $18.00 or so. a good negotiator could probably talk them down a lot more. it is a rip off compared to the retail price, but the convenience can be a life saver. if i remember correctly the current price for a single branded viagra at the chain pharmacies is now around 90 pesos.

DJ FourMoney
08-16-10, 05:05
All my bros chickened out from going to TJ this weekend. I am very lonely huhu...

Any bros wanting to car pool from Los Angeles or Orange County to TJ on weekends with pick up along the 5 freeway, please PM me.

Will share gas money and buy you a couple drinks...


www.crucero-usa.com

$1-$2 fares!

TomJackin
08-17-10, 00:11
There was some chatter concerning obtaining the passport card without rendering the passport book in this forum not too long ago. Well with the advice from Big John, I decided to give it a try. First I called the US Department of State office and explained that I still had 4 years remaining before my passport book expired and I was still using my passport book throughout August, but still wanted the card. I was told to use the DS-11 form and I would need a note to accompany the DS-11 that explained my situation.

With the completed DS-11 form, note from my mother, and birth certificate, I went to San Diego County Office on July 27th. There is a processing center on the 4th floor and free parking to boot. They take the photos there as well for $10. After the photos, I sat down with one of the clerks and she checked everything for accuracy. I had to write two different checks, the first for $30 to the US Department of State and the other for $25 to the County of San Diego. The clerk informed me that I did not require a note of any kind, but she would include it with the paperwork because it looked nice.

I was in and out of that county office within 30 minutes. I received the passport card with protective sleeve in the mail today; August 16th. Just though I would share in case anyone else might be interested.

Super Gato
08-17-10, 01:13
There was some chatter concerning obtaining the passport card without rendering the passport book in this forum not too long ago. Well with the advice from Big John, I decided to give it a try. First I called the US Department of State office and explained that I still had 4 years remaining before my passport book expired and I was still using my passport book throughout August, but still wanted the card. I was told to use the DS-11 form and I would need a note to accompany the DS-11 that explained my situation.

With the completed DS-11 form, note from my mother, and birth certificate, I went to San Diego County Office on July 27th. There is a processing center on the 4th floor and free parking to boot. They take the photos there as well for $10. After the photos, I sat down with one of the clerks and she checked everything for accuracy. I had to write two different checks, the first for $30 to the US Department of State and the other for $25 to the County of San Diego. The clerk informed me that I did not require a note of any kind, but she would include it with the paperwork because it looked nice.

I was in and out of that county office within 30 minutes. I received the passport card with protective sleeve in the mail today; August 16th. Just though I would share in case anyone else might be interested.

Good advice. For non San Diegans, you can do that at most US post offices (but you need to make sure your post office does -- their website will say if they do and whether an appointment is required...the fees are the same and you can also get the photos taken)

Big John 1
08-18-10, 05:29
There was some chatter concerning obtaining the passport card without rendering the passport book in this forum not too long ago. Well with the advice from Big John, I decided to give it a try. First I called the US Department of State office and explained that I still had 4 years remaining before my passport book expired and I was still using my passport book throughout August, but still wanted the card. I was told to use the DS-11 form and I would need a note to accompany the DS-11 that explained my situation.

With the completed DS-11 form, note from my mother, and birth certificate, I went to San Diego County Office on July 27th. There is a processing center on the 4th floor and free parking to boot. They take the photos there as well for $10. After the photos, I sat down with one of the clerks and she checked everything for accuracy. I had to write two different checks, the first for $30 to the US Department of State and the other for $25 to the County of San Diego. The clerk informed me that I did not require a note of any kind, but she would include it with the paperwork because it looked nice.

I was in and out of that county office within 30 minutes. I received the passport card with protective sleeve in the mail today; August 16th. Just though I would share in case anyone else might be interested.
You got amazingly fast service Jim!Mine took two months!Glad to help you and others!And YOU REALLY HAD A NOTE FROM MOM<WOW!?How nice,later will give long report on my two weeks in TJ.Bigjohn PS.How was Thailand Jim?

Toddtworip
08-18-10, 21:53
Can someone help me?

I need to know how to go from the San Diego airport to the San Diego Trolley so I can make my way to San Ysidro.

Thanks!

SuperSteve
08-18-10, 23:21
Go outside the terminal and look for the bus, I believe it is 992. It will make a stop at Broadway & Kettner (Kettner is the street on the East side of the San Diego Amtrak Station).

Get off at Kettner and walk across the street to the America Plaza Trolley Station. Buy a ticket from the machines ($2.50 ea. way) and get on the Blue line to San Ysidro (it will say it on the upper front of the trolley), which will be the last stop.

Get out of the trolley and walk towards the left, and follow the people up the ramp to the other side of the freeway. At the ramp on the other side go through the two turn styles and cabs will be in front of you. After the first one, there is a Cambio if you want to exchange dollars for Pesos. You can probably get a marginally better rate, but it is not a rip either. Yesterday when I checked the rate was listed as 12.6 to 1.

Either take a yellow cab to for $5.00 to the Zona, or walk across the street and take a white cab for $3-$5, they are more negotiable. Don't let the cab drivers talk you into going to a better club they know. Just tell them Adelita's or you will get out.

Have a good time, and if you are there this weekend and see an old, fat, Gringo with a shit eatin' grin on his face, it is probably me.

Health and happiness to all...............

Dray Ben
08-19-10, 08:15
I am in San Diego on business for the next 3 months and had never been to Tijuana before so I decided to go tonight. I have been to DR, Brazil, Thailand, Costa Rica, so I had some pretty good reference points as to what I was looking for and or expecting. Brockton's Tijuana guide was on-point down to every detail. I asked the taxi to take me to the ADELITA bar. Got there, It was not very busy at first but got busier as the night went on. There were some fine ass women in there from the completely ass-less to the bom-bom pow type; old and young. I saw 1-10's in there. Some dude was talking my ear off so I had to jet to get away. Left and went into Hong Kong. The place was jam-packed, but looked to be well run and much more exciting and lively for my taste. There is a section in the back that was completely off the chain that had something I had never seen before. They have two tables (or counters) where a couple women were, completely naked and all soap-lathered up and guys were just knuckles deep in all holes. The women were fine and iit was hott! Band playing, dancers on poles, tons of fine asses walking by and rubbing something on ya! I will definitely go back. I left from there to check out Chicago. OMG! It was completely dull. Seems like an over 40's type spot. Could have been my timeframe, but damn, it was truely dead. Now, I got to Tijuana about 9pm and left about 11:30p. No "activities" this time as I was just scoping the places out, but I will be back next week. I know, I know, not a lot of exciting info, but there is more to come. I'll keep you posted.

I am sure someone has mentioned this before, but guys, forget viagra or cialis. Go to your local herbal store and get MOJO. (http://www.Mojorisen.com). It's not one of those "take it 30 min before" things. You can take it with breakfast and it not take affect until you want it to happen and BAM, its there. You'll be like (like Usher) O-M-G! It last about 2 days (depending on your build) and is excellent, and natural. Please know, I am not advertising for them. Take it or leave it. I am just telling you, I haven't been the same since I tried them. You won't either.

Dray Ben

Toddtworip
08-19-10, 23:33
Go outside the terminal and look for the bus, I believe it is 992. It will make a stop at Broadway & Kettner (Kettner is the street on the East side of the San Diego Amtrak Station).

Get off at Kettner and walk across the street to the America Plaza Trolley Station. Buy a ticket from the machines ($2.50 ea. way) and get on the Blue line to San Ysidro (it will say it on the upper front of the trolley), which will be the last stop.

Get out of the trolley and walk towards the left, and follow the people up the ramp to the other side of the freeway. At the ramp on the other side go through the two turn styles and cabs will be in front of you. After the first one, there is a Cambio if you want to exchange dollars for Pesos. You can probably get a marginally better rate, but it is not a rip either. Yesterday when I checked the rate was listed as 12.6 to 1.

Either take a yellow cab to for $5.00 to the Zona, or walk across the street and take a white cab for $3-$5, they are more negotiable. Don't let the cab drivers talk you into going to a better club they know. Just tell them Adelita's or you will get out.

Have a good time, and if you are there this weekend and see an old, fat, Gringo with a shit eatin' grin on his face, it is probably me.

Health and happiness to all...............Hey Supersteve,

Thanks for all the info.

I believe I have been at that stations before many years ago when I stayed at the Holiday Inn at the bay/cruise terminal.

You also stated about exchanging dollars to pesos. Is that usually recommended? Better paying with pesos?

Thanks a lot for all the good info.

Kman1
08-20-10, 04:33
Is this bus 992 free or you pay in the bus? does it stop where the rental car agency buses stop?
I plan to take the bus/trolley from the airport to TJ and check in at Hotel Ticuan. Does Ticuan need advance reservations? I checked out their site, its all in Spanish. I am arriving on a Wednesday so I guess it may be more open.

thx.

Ho Lover1
08-20-10, 05:40
Is this bus 992 free or you pay in the bus? Does it stop where the rental car agency buses stop?

I plan to take the bus/trolley from the airport to Tijuana and check in at Hotel Ticuan. Does Ticuan need advance reservations? I checked out their site, its all in Spanish. I am arriving on a Wednesday so I guess it may be more open.

Thanks.You pay on the Bus 992 when you enter. The bus stops outside in the ground transportation area where the rental car shuttles stop. You will see a bus stop sign there. If you need any help, there is an information counter inside at the exit.

I don't think you will need advance reservations at the Hotel Ticuan when arriving on Wednesday.

TomJackin
08-20-10, 06:13
Is this bus 992 free or you pay in the bus? does it stop where the rental car agency buses stop?
I plan to take the bus/trolley from the airport to TJ and check in at Hotel Ticuan. Does Ticuan need advance reservations? I checked out their site, its all in Spanish. I am arriving on a Wednesday so I guess it may be more open.

thx.

When I stayed at Hotel Ticuan I made reservations online and brought the printed receipt with me; it is a cheaper rate, but just my experience. I stayed in the Business Suite, which is an inside room with no street noise. If you use Google, Google will translate the pages for you. I thought it was a great hotel for the price, once again, just my opinion. On Wednesday, you should have plenty of options. I had the manager show me some of the other rooms, and he seemed happy in my interest in the hotel.

SuperSteve
08-20-10, 12:37
It is a bus city bus and is about $1.50. It stops at a city bus stop right outside the terminals. I am told, never done it myself, that it runs about every 15 minutes. I have several friends who fly into San Diego that take this route.

The Ticuan is very upscale for most hotels in the Ave. Revo area, especially for the cost. They have a twenty-four hour fruit, small sandwich, coffee, juices table in the lobby. I would suggest as Tomjackin says that you print a copy of your reservation. I made one at the desk for my return one week later. I asked the clerk if I needed written confirmation. of course it was , "Oh no amigo, it is taken care of". Well, of course amigo, the next week it wasn't. Fortunately they did have a room. They seemed to be pretty strict about the 3 PM check-in. I had to wait in the lobby for an hour until 3 to check in. Still it is a very nice hotel. When leaving they have a shuttle van that will take you to the border. You should have no problems with a Wednesday check-in.

You can save some money, especially with the street girls, by exchanging money. They convert at 10-1, and the exchange rate is actually going to be about 12-1. So a session they quote $30.00 for, at 300 pesos will actually be about $25.00.

Health & happiness to all.............

MikeyMae
08-20-10, 19:19
[QUOTE=Supersteve]They have a twenty-four hour fruit, small sandwich, coffee, juices table in the lobby.
QUOTE]
I believe they got rid of the refreshment table a few weeks ago. It was rapidly shrinking anyway. First, no sandwiches, then fruit, etc. I have a feeling they thought it was bad for the restaurant. Grab a snack at the OXXO around the corner.

QuackUp
08-20-10, 21:13
Last time I was there, they also discontinued the van service from the hotel to the border. You may want to contact them to see if they reinstated the van service.

Q

Toddtworip
08-20-10, 21:57
Last time I was there, they also discontinued the van service from the hotel to the border. You may want to contact them to see if they reinstated the van service.

QThanks everyone for all the help below.

Another question:

Quite some time ago, I would take the Greyhound bus from Revolution to the border. As they would get you through customs a lot quicker than standing in the line on the weekend.

Does that still exist today?

Super Gato
08-21-10, 00:54
It is a bus city bus and is about $1.50. It stops at a city bus stop right outside the terminals. I am told, never done it myself, that it runs about every 15 minutes. I have several friends who fly into San Diego that take this route.


The bus is $2.25* (the driver has no change). The Trolley is 2.50* one-way. You can get a day pass for $5 from the bus driver when you get on the bus at the airport which allows you to ride any bus or trolley for the day (the last trolley from San Ysidro north into SD leaves right before 1am (12:59am) so if you need to get back into SD you don't need to buy another ticket).

here's the timetable for the airport bus: http://www.sdmts.com/mtscr/Route.aspx?r=992

here's the timetable for the Blue Line trolley to San Ysidro (the blue line, southbound at the America's Plaza station is where you get on):
http://www.sdmts.com/Trolley/Trolley.asp#schedule

*if you're over 60 or disabled it is cheaper.

Kman1
08-21-10, 06:24
Thankyou all. I got things figured out now. I presume I will make it by 9pm at TJ, so taking a cab to Ticuan makes sense (5 to 10$ max?). I also dont plan to walk to and from ticuan to zona during the night.
Supersteve's idea of using pesos sounds good, saving 5 to 10$ a pop means one free for every 7 to 8 :)

The Mojo-risen sounds like a bunch of baloney ;)

Super Gato
08-21-10, 22:18
Thanks everyone for all the help below.

Another question:

Quite some time ago, I would take the Greyhound bus from Revolution to the border. As they would get you through customs a lot quicker than standing in the line on the weekend.

Does that still exist today?

Yes. Mexicoach also have a shuttle from Revo to the border. If you ever find yourself at the border and the line is very long, bus and van drivers will often sell you a seat in their vehicle to skip to the front of the line. One morning there was a huge line that wasn't moving (with at least an 1.5 hour wait) and I had a plane to catch in Long Beach in 3.5 hours and still had to deal with rush hour traffic in SD and OC. A guy was walking down the line and offered to take people in his van for $5. 15 minutes later I was at my car and didn't miss the flight.

Blue Nose
08-21-10, 23:34
Yes. Mexicoach also have a shuttle from Revo to the border. If you ever find yourself at the border and the line is very long, bus and van drivers will often sell you a seat in their vehicle to skip to the front of the line. One morning there was a huge line that wasn't moving (with at least an 1.5 hour wait) and I had a plane to catch in Long Beach in 3.5 hours and still had to deal with rush hour traffic in SD and OC. A guy was walking down the line and offered to take people in his van for $5. 15 minutes later I was at my car and didn't miss the flight.
Yeah, generally when the border is at its busiest, van comapnies will run empty vans in the bus lane at the border. They then have guys who come to the pedestrian line and advertise this van as a fast way to cross for $5. You just walk with the guy, hop into the van, and usually you're through in 15 - 20 minutes (vs 1.5 - 2 hours in line.)

Other way to do it ifast is to apply for a Sentri card. These run ~$125 and are good for 5 years. This allows you to jump the queue, flash the card at the US guards at the turnstile as you enter the US building, and then keep to the left for your own special line. Most times I've observed it, pedestrians with the card just blasted right through the line. Might be worth it if you cross every week. For a few dollars more, you can get a transponder for your car and use the sentri car lanes. Applying for the sentri takes time - need to fill out an application, pay fees, show ID, get a background check (including being fingerprinted) and even have an in-person interview. If you register a car, they will inspect the car before issuing the transponder.

Blue Nose
08-21-10, 23:50
Haven't read a lot on this forum about D&B bar in TJ, so I thought I would post a report. It opened about a year ago, and against my better judgment one evening I decided to take the advice of a street barker and visit. This part of la zona is much quieter than the eastern section and I haven't really visited it since New York club closed down a while back.

It was very quiet, with few customers and about 10-12 women. I grabbed a seat at the bar and watched a bit of the baseball game, with one eye on the stage for the strip show. Girls dance in three song sets, followed by a one song break. Masero let me enjoy my beer for a few minutes and then started bringing the girls over. I waved them off until he brought one that caught my eye. Cassandra was a nice slim, petite girl with long blonde hair and very nice body. She could speak some English and we had a nice chat as I bought her a few fichas.

I never really did learn what this club was about: some clubs in TJ have very disctinct themes (AB - straight up sex; HK - strip club; Chavelas - cowboy bar mainly for fichas and dancing) all with a sex theme mixed in. This place was like a strip club only without the booths for privados. Anyway, to make a long story short, I'm not sure if the girls there go upstairs, or if there is even an upstairs to go to. My sense is that many will go, if properly motivated. That evening, I was looking for something else, and I asked Cassandra if she would like to do a TLN with me. She replied yes, and we settled on $100, plus a $10 bar fine for her exit (this is pretty standard.)

Took her back to my hotel, the Nelson, and we had a very nice time together. Showered together, great sex, nice chat followed by sleepy time, more sex, and goodbye at about 4am, which is when her shift at the bar ended and she had to go home.

Overall, a very nice girl and a lovely evening. I've been back to the D&B a few times since then and seen Cassandra twice more. D&B has renovated and I haven't seen her since the renovation. Overall, the bar seems to be a little more crowded with customers than when I first went in. There is a fairly good selection of girls, and I would describe the average girl in there as "semi-pro", just working there to make a few extra dollars, but not a hard core pro like an AB girl. The place is laid back, not too crowded, smokey or noisy so it's probably worth a look if you're in the zone and have some extra time (and are tired of the same old same old at AB).

Blue Nose

Phordphan
08-23-10, 08:02
Can anybody comment on the daytime lines at la linea during the weekdays?

Of my last 4 visits, 3 had to be during the day. The first was late June, on a Thursday. I got to the border at about 4. The line was 1.5 hours long, cuz I timed it. It would've been 2 hours but some DHS ******* accidentally opened up another line, bringing the available kisoks to 6. I'm sure he was reprimanded for that!

So, a couple of weeks later, early July, I visited on a Wednesday. I got to the border at about 3 and the freaking line was even longer. I didn't have 2 hours to waste, so I paid some guy $5, he took me to the head of the line, put me on a van. He gave the driver $1. All in all it took about 40 - 45 minutes from van to across the border.

So, next visit, I came on a Tuesday. I got to the border about 2. The fucking line was every bit as long as before. Shit. Another fin to some guy, got to the front and put into a van full of locals. Unfortunately it was the back row, far corner seat, no open window. I was hot and sweaty from a brisk walk from la zona. Ugh. Steamy and slightly claustrophobic. It took about 45 - 50 minutes. The wait in the van was shorter, but the line inside was much longer due to a bus being ahead of us.

What are the daytime lines like now? Just as bad?

Stedd1
08-23-10, 13:24
I'll be in TJ in September on my way to Ensenada for fishing.

I usually stay at Villa de Zaragoza.

Does anyone have any info on oarking at Hotel Ticuan?

D Cups
08-23-10, 14:21
Better to park at the border for $4 and walk across. I have done this about 20X now. The exercise is good and I wear an iPod so I don't hear the hasslers. It only takes about 20 minures to walk to Adelitas/Hong Kong. But I don't think I would do it late at night unless I booked a hotel there. I have stayed at Hotel Espana a few times. The longest I have waited in line was on a holiday weekend about 45 min. It ususally only takes about 20 minutes.


Can anybody comment on the daytime lines at la linea during the weekdays?

Of my last 4 visits, 3 had to be during the day. The first was late June, on a Thursday. I got to the border at about 4. The line was 1.5 hours long, cuz I timed it. It would've been 2 hours but some DHS ******* accidentally opened up another line, bringing the available kisoks to 6. I'm sure he was reprimanded for that!

So, a couple of weeks later, early July, I visited on a Wednesday. I got to the border at about 3 and the freaking line was even longer. I didn't have 2 hours to waste, so I paid some guy $5, he took me to the head of the line, put me on a van. He gave the driver $1. All in all it took about 40 - 45 minutes from van to across the border.

So, next visit, I came on a Tuesday. I got to the border about 2. The fucking line was every bit as long as before. Shit. Another fin to some guy, got to the front and put into a van full of locals. Unfortunately it was the back row, far corner seat, no open window. I was hot and sweaty from a brisk walk from la zona. Ugh. Steamy and slightly claustrophobic. It took about 45 - 50 minutes. The wait in the van was shorter, but the line inside was much longer due to a bus being ahead of us.

What are the daytime lines like now? Just as bad?

SuperSteve
08-23-10, 14:22
I was in TJ this weekend..........

SG's seemed down in count & quality, but as usual some winners

HK was busy as usual, but it seemed the quality was down a bit, but at least 10 or so super hot. IMO it is the best day spot, but can become a hot sausage fest at night.

Chavelas was about as busy as usual, quality was way down, I didn't see one that I would bang

Tropical was about average in looks and numbers. I danced with a lady for a bit who told me how nasty she was, and I'll bet it was true. Probably at one time in her life she was pretty, but the years of working looked like it had taken it's toll. She still have a petite body though, and a lot of fun on the dance floor dirty dancing.

Chicago was very busy (for Chicago), about 3-5 that I would consider VGL. I saw my ex-favorita who tried to give me sh*t about not being with her anymore......NEXT!!!!!

AB was about the same as usual. I sessioned with a VGL lady from Mexico City, about twenty with a body to die for, C's, with no children, still very tight body. Some guy apparently was getting a BJ on stage, that turned into sex. I didn't watch it, but it certainly got people around the stage.

At 3 AM the Policia came from the outside and closed the door (AB), and all went on as normal. We finally left at about 4:30. I'm not sure how long they stay open now, but you exit out the back door.

My overall impression is that there was more gringos, and tourists, than usual. The hotel I stay at was full. Overall I think there were slightly fewer women, and the quality seemed down.

Coming back across the border was busier than normal, for a Sunday morning. The Immigration Officer asked me for a second picture ID. He held them both up and it took a while. Then he said that my passport picture did not look like me, and it was evil looking. I told him it was taken when I was still married. Upon leaving he said that I should get a new passport with my current looks. Again he made the evil comment. Did I say that my picture is not the best, somewhere between a ZZ Top band member and Charles Manson.

Health & happiness to all..............

JesseJames
08-23-10, 16:14
Can anybody comment on the daytime lines at la linea during the weekdays?

Of my last 4 visits, 3 had to be during the day. The first was late June, on a Thursday. I got to the border at about 4. The line was 1.5 hours long, cuz I timed it. It would've been 2 hours but some DHS ******* accidentally opened up another line, bringing the available kisoks to 6. I'm sure he was reprimanded for that!

So, a couple of weeks later, early July, I visited on a Wednesday. I got to the border at about 3 and the freaking line was even longer. I didn't have 2 hours to waste, so I paid some guy $5, he took me to the head of the line, put me on a van. He gave the driver $1. All in all it took about 40 - 45 minutes from van to across the border.

So, next visit, I came on a Tuesday. I got to the border about 2. The fucking line was every bit as long as before. Shit. Another fin to some guy, got to the front and put into a van full of locals. Unfortunately it was the back row, far corner seat, no open window. I was hot and sweaty from a brisk walk from la zona. Ugh. Steamy and slightly claustrophobic. It took about 45 - 50 minutes. The wait in the van was shorter, but the line inside was much longer due to a bus being ahead of us.

What are the daytime lines like now? Just as bad?

Sunday at 6 PM it was 1 hour 15 minutes. They try to make it as horrible as possible to keep people from crossing. My taxes at work.

Phordphan
08-23-10, 17:01
Better to park at the border for $4 and walk across. I have done this about 20X now. The exercise is good and I wear an iPod so I don't hear the hasslers. It only takes about 20 minures to walk to Adelitas/Hong Kong. But I don't think I would do it late at night unless I booked a hotel there. I have stayed at Hotel Espana a few times. The longest I have waited in line was on a holiday weekend about 45 min. It ususally only takes about 20 minutes.

Dude, this WAS walking across.

Hargow20
08-23-10, 18:47
I always park by Border Village road which runs parallel to San Ysidro blvd. This is right near the Kentucky fried chicken. I have never had any problems parking there.

Blue Nose
08-24-10, 04:35
Wow. TLN for $100 with a nice, young, slim blonde is a great deal.

Before New York closed down, a very good-looking stripper quoted me $100 for ST. I came back to look for her but never found her again, as their work schedule is irregular.

I have to check out the other bars besides HK and Adelita from now on. You happen to have her telefono?Yeah, TLN with a good looker (7-8) can be had for $100 if you know where to go and what to look for. Of course, there is no way this will happen at the main tourist bars (AB, CC, HK) so your best bet is a smaller, less busy bar mainly frequented by locals. The girls are not as good quality as AB or HK, but you will see a number of girls in the 6 - 8 range, with the occaisonal 9 - 10 (although these are rarer in these types of bars.)

Since there are fewer people and tourists in these bars, the girls survive on fichas and $1 tips for dancing. So, $100 is much more than they will make if they stay at the bar. Generally, they will only do TLN with you if you develop rapport with them and they like you. This means having to put some time and effort into talking with them and getting to know them (most of them are very nice people - I just show them some respect and am nice back to them, and this has always worked for me.) It also takes a few fichas, so remember that there are some up-front costs, before a TLN is sealed. However, like most guys I do buy the occaisonal ficha anyway, so it's not a huge loss if things don't work out. Anyway, that's my recommendation for TLNs. If it doesn't work out with one girl, just move to the next!

One final trick is to go to these local bars during the early evening, before the day girls get off their shifts (most day shifts end between 7 & 9pm.) If you do this, you can grab the girl when she is coming off her shift, take her to dinner / movie etc and then do a TLN, without paying a bar fine or messing up her work schedule. I've done this a few times and found it a great way not just to have a great TLN, but also a fantastic way to set up some regulars. Being nice and going on a normal date pays dramatic dividends down the road, as I think guys who treat these girls nicely are generally few and far between.

I really liked New York when it was open and I always had great luck there (although I never did a TLN from there.) The girls were amazing and it was never crowded, which surprised me. It was kind of an anything goes place upstairs, and one night I almost fucked the waitress, who was pretty hot! Too bad it didn't stay open and I sure hope it comes back some day.

MrBoring37
08-24-10, 04:39
Breaking news!

Miss Mexico won the Miss Universe Contest for 2010

Kman1
08-24-10, 05:42
How is it on saturdays early afternoon like 11am? I am hoping to make my 3:15 flight, including the trolley and the bus time to get to the airport. Worse come worse i have to forgo my last morning pop and get there by 10am.

Bill
08-24-10, 05:51
Would like advice on staying in Zona Norte for about a month.

Prefer to rent a secure, clean and low key apartment/hotel that would not attract too much attention taking different girls in and out throughout the week.

Read you have to go to a bank for a permit to stay longer than 90 days?

Any and all thoughts/recommendations appreciated!

Super Gato
08-24-10, 19:56
Would like advice on staying in Zona Norte for about a month.

Prefer to rent a secure, clean and low key apartment/hotel that would not attract too much attention taking different girls in and out throughout the week.

Read you have to go to a bank for a permit to stay longer than 90 days?

Any and all thoughts/recommendations appreciated!

Technically, you need a Tourist Card (FMT) if you're staying in Mexico more than 72 hours. However, Tijuana is in the border zone so no one is really checking (if you run into trouble, being in the country legally will be helpful and worth the $25 or so dollars they charge for the FMT...of course you could also lie and tell the official you've in in TJ less than 72 hours and most likely you'll not have a problem but you could.). You can get a tourist card at the border in TJ at the immigration office and the bank you pay is the government bank window right there. You can get an FMT for up to six months (the immigration official decides the actual amount, I've gotten them for usually 90 days when I stated I was only going to be there a week). In addition to at the border, you can also get an FMT at a local Mexican consulate in the US before you leave for Mexico. If I were planning on staying in Mexico a month, I'd get the FMT so as not to be an undocumented alien.

If you do get the FMT for your trip don't forget to turn it in at the Migracion office at the border before you leave or you may have a hard time getting one in the future and be banned from travel to Mexico (it wouldn't stop your trips to the border zones since no one checks, but if you fly in or go past the border zone you may not be allowed to enter until you pay a fine and/or mordida to clear it up).

Kman1
08-25-10, 04:05
The bus is $2.25* (the driver has no change). The Trolley is 2.50* one-way. You can get a day pass for $5 from the bus driver when you get on the bus at the airport which allows you to ride any bus or trolley for the day (the last trolley from San Ysidro north into SD leaves right before 1am (12:59am) so if you need to get back into SD you don't need to buy another ticket).

here's the timetable for the airport bus: http://www.sdmts.com/mtscr/Route.aspx?r=992

here's the timetable for the Blue Line trolley to San Ysidro (the blue line, southbound at the America's Plaza station is where you get on):
http://www.sdmts.com/Trolley/Trolley.asp#schedule

*if you're over 60 or disabled it is cheaper.

Thanks supergato, this info is really helpful. What is a good place to exchange dollars in TJ?

Phordphan
08-25-10, 05:20
Thanks supergato, this info is really helpful. What is a good place to exchange dollars in TJ?

The best rates are the the ATM, depending on any service charges your bank may levy for international transactions.

Avoid all the ones on Articulo 123. They're ripoffs. The one near the cop shop across from the alley has, generally, the best rates as long as you exchange during the day. At night the rate goes down. The one in the middle of all the Yellow taxi drivers when you cross the border is about the same. The one right as you cross is the most convenient, but seldom has the best rates.

The ones in San Ysidro, before you cross, are even better, but not nearly as convenient.

Bill
08-25-10, 15:43
Been researching this forum for the last several hours and realize I don't have a clue compared to the TJ vets.

Thanks for responding and offering your knowledge.

Firstly, learned I shouldn't have been paying first.

2ndly, didn't know about differences in hotels, negotiating time, CC v.s Adelita v.s HK .

Not sure if best dollar exchange rates are in the U.S. cambios or in Mexico.

Wanna check out that budget mongers hole Monito's and Hotel Leyva.

Can one trust the fresh seafood cocktails on the corner?

Looking forward to walking in the footsteps of sages Phord, Super and Captain.

BaitAndSwitch
08-25-10, 16:12
I'm looking to do a TJ run this weekend. I haven't been in many, many years, so I'm wondering if any experienced members are going that wouldn't mind showing me the ropes?

JPF
08-25-10, 21:55
The one near the cop shop across from the alley has, generally, the best rates as long as you exchange during the day. At night the rate goes down.If you are near the zona then also check the nearby cambio because it often has better rates at night. From the one mentioned above walk down the hill (north) towards Chicago and turn right at the intersection and it is a few stores down. However, if you don't want to take the time to check, these cambios are usually pretty close in price to each other.

Purayil
08-26-10, 11:48
Does anybody knows the trio of Sylvia, Brittany & Jessica of the Tijuana craiglist?

Alias
08-28-10, 14:15
Is Tijuana safe?

Is it safe to cross the border to hit boys town for some fun and return to US?

I ask because I'm planning on visiting next week and the other border towns are a war zone.

Have any regulars stopped visiting?

What is the situation?

Bunky
08-28-10, 18:47
Is Tijuana safe? What is the situation?Visiting the Zona Norte is perfectly safe. Read the FAQ from Brockton O'Toole and follow his advice. You'll be fine.

Regards,

Bunky

Sound7
08-30-10, 20:26
TJ is not a Bel Air by a long shoot and for sure the Zona North.

Time4aSpliff
09-01-10, 00:36
Hey guys:

I'm interested in getting a new passport card as I'm really due for a fun TJ journey.

I'm eligible to apply through the mail by submitting my previous passport book but I heard that it'll take up to a month.

I just read on the government site that LA is now issuing passport cards on site. Has anyone gone to the LA Passport Agency for a passport card?

If so, do they require the same application for passport/passport card renewals or do they treat you like a first time applicant? Are there specific requirements for on site card issuing? What exactly does it entail?

Sorry for all the questions but none of this is covered on the government site & I'm eager to get back to the zona.

Kman1
09-01-10, 04:07
Just returned from a 3 day trip, stayed at Ticuan which was a fine hotel thanks for ISG members recommendation. Walking during the day is safe, walk all you want. I did not have any problems with the taxis, I even took the red taxi (11 pesos flat) for some site seeing. Really nothing much to see there, and if you dont habla its that much more difficult. I got a map at the tourist center which on Revolution which was helpful.
Honestly, the place is really polluted, crowded, and food is good but after a couple of days I got tired of eating tacos. Next time I'd just stay in San Diego and only go to TJ at nights because besides the zone and the few bars which really get going late afternoons there aint much else. One more reason not to stay at TJ is cos unlike the DR or Brazil or Asia u dont get all niters nor do u even get to take ur time, its by the clock and u start anticipating the knock on the door. I tried to get a few TLNs or even few hours back at my hotel for which if available the price jumps dramatically and not sure how the service would be.
Ticuan was good for the price ($55), I passed by Ceasers hotel several times, looks good too and were advertising $30/nite. I dined at the restaurant at Ceasers which was upscale and pricey. Besides Ceasers its all tacos and a little bit of Sushi.
few pics - outside my 5th floor non smoking level room lobby at Ticuan, outside of Caliente casino where i went to see the dog race, an old rusted scale at one of the restaurants and the viagara lady
Chica pics coming up on photo gallery.

DJ FourMoney
09-01-10, 10:47
Hey guys:

I'm interested in getting a new passport card as I'm really due for a fun TJ journey.

I'm eligible to apply through the mail by submitting my previous passport book but I heard that it'll take up to a month.

I just read on the government site that LA is now issuing passport cards on site. Has anyone gone to the LA Passport Agency for a passport card?

If so, do they require the same application for passport/passport card renewals or do they treat you like a first time applicant? Are there specific requirements for on site card issuing? What exactly does it entail?

Sorry for all the questions but none of this is covered on the government site & I'm eager to get back to the zona.

I haven't been to the Downtown LA office yet, but if you go before I do, let me know.

TomJackin
09-01-10, 22:56
Hey guys:

I'm eligible to apply through the mail by submitting my previous passport book but I heard that it'll take up to a month.



You do not have to surrender your passport book if you do not want to. I called the US Department of State office and explained that I still had 4 years remaining before my passport book expired and I was still using my passport book throughout August, but still wanted the card. I was told to use the DS-11 form and I would need a note to accompany the DS-11 that explained my situation. In the end, I did not even need the note.

Time4aSpliff
09-02-10, 22:50
You do not have to surrender your passport book if you do not want to. I called the US Department of State office and explained that I still had 4 years remaining before my passport book expired and I was still using my passport book throughout August, but still wanted the card. I was told to use the DS-11 form and I would need a note to accompany the DS-11 that explained my situation. In the end, I did not even need the note.Thanks for the feedback. I believe I'm eligible to use the renewal application (DS 82) because it's been less than 15 years since my passport book was issued and I was at least 16 when it was issued. In my case, I think I'm required to surrender the passport book since it has expired but I'm not certain.

I am only interested in obtaining a passport card and not renewing my passport book at this time.

My questions are: Are there any special requirements for on site passport cards? [I. E. Proof that I'll be traveling within 2 weeks] And if I meet the requirements, which application do I use?

If I'm required to use DS-11, I believe I'll need some additional documents as DS-11 is designated for 1st time applicants (which I'm not). This is key for me because it'll take a bit of work to get my hands on my birth certificate. If they just require my expired passport for documentation, I'll make an appointment with the passport agency ASAP to get the card.

It's strange that these details aren't addressed on the government site.

If any one has had similar experiences with the passport card, please chime in. I would really appreciate it.

TomJackin
09-03-10, 21:41
I am only interested in obtaining a passport card and not renewing my passport book at this time.

If you get both, you will save money. I wish I could answer your questions. My best advice is to do what I did; call them directly.

There is a toll free number, plus a e-mail link:
http://travel.state.gov/passport/npic/npic_898.html

Phordphan
09-04-10, 01:50
Thanks for the feedback. I believe I'm eligible to use the renewal application (DS 82) because it's been less than 15 years since my passport book was issued and I was at least 16 when it was issued. In my case, I think I'm required to surrender the passport book since it has expired but I'm not certain.

I am only interested in obtaining a passport card and not renewing my passport book at this time.

My questions are: Are there any special requirements for on site passport cards? [I. E. Proof that I'll be traveling within 2 weeks] And if I meet the requirements, which application do I use?

If I'm required to use DS-11, I believe I'll need some additional documents as DS-11 is designated for 1st time applicants (which I'm not). This is key for me because it'll take a bit of work to get my hands on my birth certificate. If they just require my expired passport for documentation, I'll make an appointment with the passport agency ASAP to get the card.

It's strange that these details aren't addressed on the government site.

If any one has had similar experiences with the passport card, please chime in. I would really appreciate it.

If I understand the gov't's "Logic" (and I use the term loosely), the card is basically just a "copy" of the "real" passport, but can only be used in certain locales, like MX, CA and the Carribean. I believe that to obtain one you must have a valid, current, passport.

Back in the day they used to renew your passport and give you the old one with some holes punched in it. It was a cool souvenir if you had stamps, visas, etc. But now they keep the old passport. I had to renew mine, and got my card at the same time.

If your PP is expired, I think you're gonna have to pony up for both...

Bunky
09-04-10, 16:53
Next time I'd just stay in San Diego and only go to TJ at night because besides the zone and the few bars which really get going late afternoons there ain't much else. . . . Ticuan was good for the price ($55).Plus one on this sentiment. For me, Tijuana during the day is a depressing scene and I get absolutely nothing out of hanging out there. Obviously, other gents on this forum may disagree. But for my money the best bet is lodging on the U.S. side and "commuting" to the Zona Norte in the evenings. For $55 per night you can rent a nice room within walking distance of the Chula Vista trolley stop at the Best Western South Bay and spend your days in an area that's not quite as sad as Tijuana.

Regards,

Bunky

Bob Mc Bobby
09-04-10, 23:14
Plus one on this sentiment. For me, Tijuana during the day is a depressing scene and I get absolutely nothing out of hanging out there. Obviously, other gents on this forum may disagree. But for my money the best bet is lodging on the U.S. side and "commuting" to the Zona Norte in the evenings. For $55 per night you can rent a nice room within walking distance of the Chula Vista trolley stop at the Best Western South Bay and spend your days in an area that's not quite as sad as Tijuana.

Regards,

BunkyThe Trolley doesnt run very late does it? There might be an issue in getting back to Chula Vista, Unless you can find a taxi have a car. Sorry Btw, im a novice here, but i'll be heading to chula vista to lodge for a TJ trip. How long does HK and Adelitas stay open at nite?

SuperSteve
09-05-10, 13:49
The last trolley leaving San Ysidro is at 12:59 AM according to their schedule. Depending upon your stop, another 10-15 minutes to get there. Google San Diego Trolley for schedules. I've never tried to cross at that hour, but you wouldn't want to miss it. For me, I would leave the Zona at about mid-night, although maybe someone who actually does this would have better information on what time to actually leave.

When I was there last week, they closed the doors (by the Policia that stands outside) of Adelita's at 3 AM, and it went on like usual, except you had to leave by the back door. We finally left at 4:30 AM.

While I have never stayed at the Chula Vista hotels, IMHO the Ticuan is a nicer hotel than what you will get from the Quality Inn, Best Western, etc. in Chula Vista. Actually for the cost, the Ticuan is one of the best deals I have seen in my world wide mongering. It is nicer than what I pay more for in MDE, or Costa Rica. I do not stay there usually since I pay less, due to only being in a room to sleep, but it is very, very nice. If I were pulling ladies for TLN's, or doing in-calls, I would definitely stay there. The added plus is that it is a 5 minute cab ride from the Zona.

I personally like the Hong Kong much better during the day. There are far fewer guys there, and plenty of women. During the night it can become very hot, and a sausage fest. To each there own......

Health & happiness to all.............

Kman1
09-05-10, 20:35
If you are staying in the US side and want to party late in TJ get a car, carrentals.com has cheap deals. Even paying one night for a taxi might not be worth it if you missed the train. I think leaving by midnight would be about right to get the last train.
I agree you wont find anything close to Ticuan for the price in Chula vista or surrounding area. I have stayed in about 5 or 6 motels around there and most of them are dumps. The knights Inn or Kings Inn you can see from highway 5 is by far the worst place I have ever stayed, had to leave within a couple of hours. The Vagabond Inn and La Quinta are decent but they would run you upto $85 or more.
On second thoughts you could stay at Ticuan and take day trips to San Diego on the trolley but the border crossing times during the day could be prohibitive.

TomJackin
09-05-10, 21:44
Living in San Diego, I have the luxury of traveling back and forth from TJ to home. But I have stayed in both La Villa De Zaragoza ($42) and the Ticuan ($55) Hotels. And I would agree with Supersteve that the Ticuan is a great hotel for the money and within walking distance (or short cab ride) of the Zone. I walked during the day and took a cab for $3 bucks in the evening.

The Ticuan is also next to the La Pulgas nightclub for non-pro action, but knowing Spanish would help. I also agree with Supersteve that HK is better during the day and early evening hours. I've been going to HK about twice a week, and usually get there about 3pm and stay until I run out of pesos or dollar bills (whichever comes first), but about from 9-10 on, especially on the weekend, it does become a sausage festival.

The idea of staying in Chula Vista or San Ysidro does not appeal to me, especially when I could stay at one of the hotels I mentioned for the same or for a cheaper price. The Zone is active during the day. The street girls are out and the bars/clubs are open. I guess it is just a matter of comfort level.

Super Gato
09-05-10, 22:44
If I understand the gov't's "Logic" (and I use the term loosely), the card is basically just a "copy" of the "real" passport, but can only be used in certain locales, like MX, CA and the Carribean. I believe that to obtain one you must have a valid, current, passport.

Back in the day they used to renew your passport and give you the old one with some holes punched in it. It was a cool souvenir if you had stamps, visas, etc. But now they keep the old passport. I had to renew mine, and got my card at the same time.

If your PP is expired, I think you're gonna have to pony up for both...

That's not entirely true. The passport card is a completely separate document and not a copy of the real passport. It was designed as a low cost option for frequent land crossers who didn't need a full paper passport book for their trips back and forth. A passport book is $140+ whatever fees. A passport card is only $50 for non-passport book holders. If it cheaper to renew them both at the same time than to get a passport card now and then get the passport renewal later. For those of us that need a full blown passport book but travel to Mexico often, the passport card is great because it means less wear and tear carrying the passport book, and if your passport card is lost or stolen it has no impact on your ability to travel on your passport book.

You won't need to get a new passport in order to get a passport card. You may also need to pay a rush charge if you go to the passport office for the passport card (you must make an appointment and your travel date must be within two weeks to qualify). That might be worth it to you.

I know they quote a month for passport cards, but I got mine in less than 10 days by mail by applying by mail. YMMV, of course.

A phone call to the passport number at travel.state.gov will help answer all your questions.

Phordphan
09-06-10, 00:23
That's not entirely true. The passport card is a completely separate document and not a copy of the real passport. It was designed as a low cost option for frequent land crossers who didn't need a full paper passport book for their trips back and forth. A passport book is $140+ whatever fees. A passport card is only $50 for non-passport book holders. If it cheaper to renew them both at the same time than to get a passport card now and then get the passport renewal later. For those of us that need a full blown passport book but travel to Mexico often, the passport card is great because it means less wear and tear carrying the passport book, and if your passport card is lost or stolen it has no impact on your ability to travel on your passport book.

You won't need to get a new passport in order to get a passport card. You may also need to pay a rush charge if you go to the passport office for the passport card (you must make an appointment and your travel date must be within two weeks to qualify). That might be worth it to you.

I know they quote a month for passport cards, but I got mine in less than 10 days by mail by applying by mail. YMMV, of course.

A phone call to the passport number at travel.state.gov will help answer all your questions.

Thanks for the clarification!!

Nauskas
09-06-10, 11:53
I always park by Border Village road which runs parallel to San Ysidro blvd. This is right near the Kentucky fried chicken. I have never had any problems parking there.

How much is that ?

Cheers

Nauskas
09-06-10, 11:55
How is it on saturdays early afternoon like 11am? I am hoping to make my 3:15 flight, including the trolley and the bus time to get to the airport. Worse come worse i have to forgo my last morning pop and get there by 10am.

On a Saturday by noon, the line is often shorter since its hot and most have crossed the border in the morning. At 2 or later its typically a 10-15 minute wait.
I always plan 3 hours, which is generally good for anyday. The longest line I have been on was 90 minutes at the border on a weekday. You can take a taxi of you are late, versus the train.

I always have a rental and I have never missed a flight from SAN

Artisttyp
09-09-10, 01:43
I will be back Oct 18 until Nov 9. I got a great deal on jet blue for $350 from NYC. Considering I paid $600 + this summer I am thrilled.

I look forward to seeing the regulars.

Artisttyp
09-09-10, 05:24
Wow. You could be in Medellin having a great time for that kind of money. Why did you decide on Tijuana?

Are you hooked on big, fat, brown chicas? You have to stick your nose up where the sun never shines for some good aroma therapy? Give us some explanations here.

Will have to hook up with you this time. Have to buy a few drinks for a bro from the far-away land of New York...


Yes of course we will meet this time.

* You pose a good question that deserves a good response :

These days most of my trips come out to be the same price. The only difference would be cost of airfare and every now and then hotel costs.

TJ would be $5 a night more expensive for my hotel and between $5/10 more per chica session than medellin. The sex is far better in medellin but that's where it stops. I've posted several times that medellin is about drinking and fucking period....unless you know people can travel without a bathroom or have the money to hire a driver. TJ on the other hand is a fascinating city to me. I totally suck up the vibes. I love seeing the marineros with ski masks the chicas on the streets etc. I have a few other projects I can work on in TJ as well.

When I am in medellin I do my session then what ? I've stayed in the centro for a total of 7 weeks. The other areas are too expensive and don't offer anything different. Lima peru is a great city...not medellin. Eventually I will go back to medellin and combine it with an overdue trip to cali. Cartegena is too expensive and bogota is too high.

This time I really need to get over doing bbbj everytime. I see some really hot indian girls in TJ but I never take advantage due to no butt licking and bbjs. I will try (no promises) to get off without it. I can always get a pig to slurp on me now and then.

What are my chances of getting kisses tit sucking and feet smelling ?

TomJackin
09-09-10, 06:14
I will be back Oct 18 until Nov 9. I got a great deal on jet blue for $350 from NYC. Considering I paid $600 + this summer I am thrilled.

I look forward to seeing the regulars.

Looking forward to a great ass monger reunion!

Cunnah Lingus
09-10-10, 22:33
Legalization debate gains momentum in Mexico

Legalization, Marijuana News Sep 09


MEXICO CITY – A debate about legalizing marijuana and possibly other drugs – once a taboo suggestion – is percolating in Mexico, a nation exhausted by runaway violence and a deadly drug war.

The debate is only likely to grow more animated if Californians approve a ballot initiative on Nov. 2 to legalize marijuana for recreational use in the state.

Mexicans are keeping a close eye on the Proposition 19 vote, seeing it as a bellwether, Tim Johnson reports for McClatchy Newspapers.

“If they vote ‘yes’ to approve the full legalization of marijuana, I think it will have a radical impact in Mexico,” said Jorge Hernández Tinajero, a political scientist at the National Autonomous University.

Discussion about legalization flew onto the agenda last month, the result of President Felipe Calderón’s pressing need to win more support for waging war against criminal organizations profiting hugely from drug trafficking.

As he held a series of forums with politicians and civic leaders about faltering security, Calderón suddenly found himself amid a groundswell of suggestions that legalization – which he described as “absurd” – should be considered.

Among those throwing their weight behind legalization was former President Vicente Fox, a member of Calderón’s own conservative National Action Party.

“We should consider legalizing the production, distribution and sale of drugs,” Fox wrote on his blog during the forums.

“Legalizing in this sense does not mean that drugs are good or don’t hurt those who consume. Rather, we have to see it as a strategy to strike and break the economic structure that allows the mafias to generate huge profits in their business.”

Calderón immediately said Mexico couldn’t act on its own to legalize.

“If drugs are not legalized in the world, or if drugs are not legalized at least in the United States, this is simply absurd, because the price of drugs is not determined in Mexico. The price of drugs is determined by consumers in Los Angeles, or in New York, or in Chicago or Texas,” he said.

Such public debate would have been largely unthinkable a few years ago. Since Calderón came to office in late 2006, however, a national gloom has descended on Mexico from relentless cartel violence and a death toll topping 28,000. The grim mood has provided fertile ground for public figures who think legalization would undercut the power of the drug cartels.

Among them are business tycoons such as billionaire Ricardo Salinas Pliego, who controls broadcaster TV Azteca, and retailer Grupo Elektra.

With his own pro-legalization statement, Fox aligned with another former president, Ernesto Zedillo, who suggested last year that prohibition isn’t working.

Still, some analysts say debate about legalization – coming most strongly from the political left – was an effort to needle Calderón as much as an exploration of whether legalization is feasible.

Edgardo Buscaglia, an expert on Mexico’s criminal syndicates, said Mexico’s government is too weak to legalize and regulate narcotics and marijuana.

“You need to have regulatory capacity in place,” he said. “Mexico does not even have the capacity to regulate its pharmaceutical products.”

Without a better framework, any move to take away penalties for narcotics would “amount to a subsidy to drug organizations,” he said, as prices and demand remain buoyant for illegal narcotics in the United States and other countries.

Legislators in August 2009 quietly decriminalized the possession of less than 5 grams of marijuana, the equivalent of about four joints. Tiny amounts of cocaine, heroin, Ecstasy, LSD and methamphetamine also are no longer subject to criminal penalties.

Further measures have been blocked, however, such as one before two committees of the Chamber of Deputies to permit the use of marijuana for medical purposes, as 14 U.S. states allow, including California. Others have been put before the Senate, the legislative assembly of Mexico City and a local congress in the state of Mexico.

Hernández Tinajero, the political scientist, said Mexican society may not be ready for such moves, but that the California ballot measure would energize the debate.

“Whatever the result may be, it will have a positive impact on Mexico,” he said, and give way to “a far more serious discussion.”

Experts said they can’t fully weigh arguments about the impact that legalization of marijuana in California might have on this country of 111 million or whether steps toward legalization here would weaken drug syndicates.

That’s because so little is known publicly about the revenue streams of cartels, the extent of production of marijuana, crystal meth and heroin, and the range of revenue from other criminal enterprises.

Counternarcotics officials say several Mexican cartels, particularly La Familia Michoacana, are deeply involved in marijuana production and sales in California.

Artisttyp
09-11-10, 17:30
As far as I know, most alley girls would do BBBJ. Some would do it voluntarily, others have to be convinced and paid $5-$10 extra etc...

The little Julie in front of hotel Cecilia would do BBBJ every time. She would also let you do DFK, tits sucking, pussy sucking, ass sucking or any position your heart desires. She's so sexy in young, sexy, horny ways that I had to suck on her clits a few times... But I dont want to go that hotel again as it's not very clean inside.

The pretty Taylor in front of the beauty shop next to hotel Edouardo loves to French kiss as she screws. I had a near perfect GFE with her recently.

The young girls hanging out in front of hotels Mini and Porton are nice, sweet and open to any sort of suggestions. Business has been slow lately, so you can negotiate for anything you want, but have to negotiate before hand. You speak Spanish so you should be able to do it easily.

The little girl Marisela in front of hotel Porton was complaining she did not have a customer for a few days and showed me her empty purse to prove it. She was probably very horny as she got on top and started screwing the day light out of me in cow girl position.

Her pussy would grab on tight to my dick. She would then pull it out, grinding the head against her vaginal wall... After a while my dick started to hurt, but she kept grinding away. She wanted me to caress her back and kiss her mouth as we screwed...

You are more likely to have a hot GFE session if the girls did not have sex for a few days (like just coming back from a vacation...), or if you take their first fuck of the day. At the end of their shift, they would already have their brains fucked out, and they are tired... so it's much more difficult to get them excited and horny...

Overall alley girls are more likely to do extras and kinky stuffs, whereas club girls tend to follow their clubs' procedures. I suspect a lot of Spanish-speaking bros were able to convince the girls to fuck without condoms...


You will have to take me on a tour. I can take you on a similar tour of the girls that won't do squat. That is unless I have alley girls and SG's mixed up.

Coahuilla would be considered the alley but the streets surrounding it would be SG's ? Coahuilla is probably the worst street for me but with the best looking chicas...again you will need to show me. I would really appreciate it.

I'm curious to know if you have a long standing relationships with these girls or you receive these acts just by asking?

I have a few other questions but I will wait at least until I start packing.


* Mexican Drug Laws- I will be there on nov 2. How exciting would that be if it does pass. Eventually something has to happen.....capital punishment for drug use like in asia or tax it and get on with life.

Artisttyp
09-11-10, 20:25
T

So I dont understand why a Spanish speaking guy could not get everything he wanted in TJ.



Basically because most said " NO " to anything I wanted. I think I am being too crude about it. I came up with my TJ inspired line " Que cosas no haces ?" (What don't you do) to get through the negotiations quicker. My responses were:

Todo con condon
Posiciones, besitos, caricias
Yo hago todo ( when in reality they don't )
Nada por atras ( no anal)
Oral solo a *ti ( you aren't munching on my rug)

I need to try a softer approach this time around. Girls must get freaked out when a newbie walks over and says " Puedo lamer tu culo?" ( Can I lick your ass).

This time around should be interesting. It will be my third trip in a rather short period of time. They know they will see me around for a few weeks.

I would still like the tour though.

Kman1
09-11-10, 20:58
As far as I know, most alley girls would do BBBJ. Some would do it voluntarily, others have to be convinced and paid $5-$10 extra etc...


My experience is the opposite. None of the street girls I picked so far have done bbbj even for a tip. I find it much easier to get it from the bar girls most without a tip. I felt the bar girls feel more secure and relaxed.

Ninguno Especial
09-11-10, 22:03
My experience is the opposite. None of the street girls I picked so far have done bbbj even for a tip. I find it much easier to get it from the bar girls most without a tip. I felt the bar girls feel more secure and relaxed.

The really good bar & street girls will not require a "tip". Don't waste your time in the alley although some will give BBBJ there. Focus on Constitucion and up the hill on Primera (1st). Your batting average will improve.

Or, you can try the skank "walkers" near the Chicago Club corner working out of the Monitos 'hotel'.

Good luck on getting your weiner saliva-sized for 200 pesos ($16.)... It is very do-a-ble but you have to do your DD.

Artisttyp
09-11-10, 22:22
Focus on Constitucion and up the hill on Primera (1st). Your batting average will improve.




I totally agree. Just get ready to toe the line on quality.

TomJackin
09-12-10, 07:46
" Puedo lamer tu culo?" ( Can I lick your ass).
Well, that is something you never hear asked in other places, such as Denny's. But at least you are to the point!

Hey Captain Solo, I want the tour too; Hong Kong is killing my life savings!

Phordphan
09-12-10, 17:55
Basically because most said " NO " to anything I wanted. I think I am being too crude about it. I came up with my TJ inspired line " Que cosas no haces ?" (What don't you do) to get through the negotiations quicker. My responses were:

Todo con condon
Posiciones, besitos, caricias
Yo hago todo ( when in reality they don't )
Nada por atras ( no anal)
Oral solo a *ti ( you aren't munching on my rug)

I need to try a softer approach this time around. Girls must get freaked out when a newbie walks over and says " Puedo lamer tu culo?" ( Can I lick your ass).

This time around should be interesting. It will be my third trip in a rather short period of time. They know they will see me around for a few weeks.

I would still like the tour though.

Despite what you may read, your experience pretty much mirrors the average experience in the alley. Many other posters, in other forums, too, report similar findings. Covered everything, no touching/licking/munching, etc., is the norm, not the exception. And, yes, the chicas will get freaked out if some guy wanders up and says "Hi, I wanna lick yer ass." :eek:

Part of this is the time factor. She has 20 minutes to get you in, get you off and get you out. The sanitary facilities in most of these hotels (and I use the term very loosely) are shitty or non-existent. She doesn't want to fuck around with tying up her hair, showering to clean all the bodily fluids off of her, re-applying makeup, etc. You're finished, you're history and she has to get back out on the street to snag another customer.

One way to improve your experience is to be a repeat customer. Obviously they will treat you better if you see them a few times. You can also go for longer time, but that'll wind up costing as much, or more, than a club girl. so, you're defeating the purpose of the alley.

I will say that your experience will improve the further south you proceed up Constitucion or, maybe, Ninos Heroes. The looks definitely decline, but the price goes down and the performance almost always goes up. Probably the very best BBBJ I have ever had (in TJ) was from a lady that probably none of the guys on this board would touch with a 10 foot pole. But that's another story.

Phordphan
09-13-10, 17:56
After seeing THESE lovely ladies, I'll never complain about the chicas in TJ again... :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ4yDhMAMJw&feature=related

Bob Mc Bobby
09-15-10, 04:37
Well I finally have my trip planned for Tijuana. I'll be staying at the not so good reviewed San Ysidro Travellodge in early November for 5 nights. I guess its a mile or a few mins walk to the border/jack in the box. I won't have a car or anything. And I plan on getting to Tijuana around noon and staying there all day till nite everyday for those next 5 days.

I just have a few issues I guess.

1. I'm kind of at a loss of what I could do in Tijuana. To recharge in between sessions instead of hanging out at the 3 most popular clubs. I would like to sit somewhere to relax and view the streetgirls. Anyone have a place in mind? Somewhere where I could go to eat, and view the streetgirls at the same time would be nice. LOL

2. How can I fit in with the crowd in Tijuana. While collecting info, someone told me not to where certain clothes with logos, brand names etc. It would make me a target for something I guess. I do stick out like a sorethumb. I'm big, with blonde hair, I look like Dolph Lundren. I don't want to sound gay. But any tips how could I fit in?

3. On my way back past the border to the ol USA at 3am. Would it be a dangerous walk back to the Travellodge in San Ysidro, knowing the fact I don't know the area at all, but only from what I see on google earth. LOL

Also, how much should I carry on reserve for the Tijuana cops?

Ty for the responses, they are greatly appreciated. I am a novice, new to the area and hope to have a good time.

Blue Balls Hurt
09-15-10, 06:53
Well I finally have my trip planned for Tijuana. I'll be staying at the not so good reviewed San Ysidro Travellodge in early November for 5 nights. I guess its a mile or a few mins walk to the border/jack in the box. I won't have a car or anything. And I plan on getting to Tijuana around noon and staying there all day till nite everyday for those next 5 days.

I just have a few issues I guess.

1. I'm kind of at a loss of what I could do in Tijuana. To recharge in between sessions instead of hanging out at the 3 most popular clubs. I would like to sit somewhere to relax and view the streetgirls. Anyone have a place in mind? Somewhere where I could go to eat, and view the streetgirls at the same time would be nice. LOL

2. How can I fit in with the crowd in Tijuana. While collecting info, someone told me not to where certain clothes with logos, brand names etc. It would make me a target for something I guess. I do stick out like a sorethumb. I'm big, with blonde hair, I look like Dolph Lundren. I don't want to sound gay. But any tips how could I fit in?

3. On my way back past the border to the ol USA at 3am. Would it be a dangerous walk back to the Travellodge in San Ysidro, knowing the fact I don't know the area at all, but only from what I see on google earth. LOL

Also, how much should I carry on reserve for the Tijuana cops?

Ty for the responses, they are greatly appreciated. I am a novice, new to the area and hope to have a good time.

1. There's a few small restaurants in the alley that you could eat and rest between sessions and check out the street girl action.

2. Since your new, Don't go past CC and just stay around the AB and HK area.

3. You should be ok walking back to your hotel at night.

4. You should have no problem with the cops if you stay around that area I mentioned.

TomJackin
09-15-10, 07:13
Well I finally have my trip planned for Tijuana. I'll be staying at the not so good reviewed San Ysidro Travellodge in early November for 5 nights. I guess its a mile or a few mins walk to the border/jack in the box. I won't have a car or anything. And I plan on getting to Tijuana around noon and staying there all day till nite everyday for those next 5 days.

I just have a few issues I guess.

1. I'm kind of at a loss of what I could do in Tijuana. To recharge in between sessions instead of hanging out at the 3 most popular clubs. I would like to sit somewhere to relax and view the streetgirls. Anyone have a place in mind? Somewhere where I could go to eat, and view the streetgirls at the same time would be nice. LOL

2. How can I fit in with the crowd in Tijuana. While collecting info, someone told me not to where certain clothes with logos, brand names etc. It would make me a target for something I guess. I do stick out like a sorethumb. I'm big, with blonde hair, I look like Dolph Lundren. I don't want to sound gay. But any tips how could I fit in?

3. On my way back past the border to the ol USA at 3am. Would it be a dangerous walk back to the Travellodge in San Ysidro, knowing the fact I don't know the area at all, but only from what I see on google earth.

I guess my first question is, "Why don't you just stay in TJ?" You can stay at a decent hotel like La Villa De Zaragoza for $42 bucks a night...how much is the Travel Lodge in beautiful San Ysidro??? Walking around San Ysidro in the early morning could be dangerous as well.

TJ does have a casino, if you are interested in recharging between sessions, and there are some good restaurants in TJ as well. Also a nice mall with movie theaters to boot.

Who is Dolph Lundren???

There are eateries to eat in the Zone, but keep in mind, the street girls don't walk around; they pick their spot and wait for you to come around. So, there is not really a place to sit, eat, and drink in order to view the selection.

Hope this helps.

SuperSteve
09-15-10, 14:17
There are many hotels in TJ that are much safer than walking to/from the Travelodge at night. On my second time in TJ I stayed there due to wing men booking there. We went back to re-charge for a while, and they decided they did not want to go back. I walked alone at about 10:00 PM back to the border, and then about 3:00 AM to the hotel. Nothing happened, but IMHO it is much safer to stay at one of the hotels in TJ and take a cab back to it. The Ticuan is about $54.00 per night and the rooms are about Marriott grade. They have safes in the room, so you can leave excess money there. Often times I will walk back from the Zona to my hotel on Ave. Revo after the clubs close. It is not a good idea for most, but I enjoy the cool night air, and with all the clubs closing at 3 AM now there are thousands of people on the street at that time. It is amazing to see how many hot non-pro ladies there are that I never see during the day.

You could dress in jeans, cowboy boots, a cosboy hat, and you would still stick out from how you describe yourself. Just be aware of where you are at all times. Keep your head on a swivel and if it looks like someone is following you stop and put your back against the wall, or cross the street. I don't know how much street sense you have, but your gut feelings can be an alert. Many times I will walk in the street on Constitution, or Articulo 123. Both are one-way streets. Unless you are going to be involved in the narco trade, chances are very good that you will be safe.

Do not go to the clubs on Ave. Revo. The touts will try all sorts of ways to offer cheap prices to get in. Do not even talk, or look at beggars, strangers that will show you ??????, or you will never be able to get rid of them. This may seem rude, but it is better than having to tell them the GTFA away later. They can smell a newbie from miles away, and will pester you into submission. Do not let the cab drivers tell you about their fabulous places to go that are much better than the Zona. They seldom if ever are, and are always more expensive.

As was said, the street girls do not move unless going arriba. There is not much to look at, as far as women are concerned. I have yet to find something like Ave. Central in Costa Rica to just sit and watch the non-pro's walk by. I mostly eat at the street vendors, or on Calle 1, the walking street. At the Arch turn north and walk down the hill towards the border. Just past the wax museum is the Taco Bell. They have 3 tacos for a dollar, and $1.00 beer. You can sit there and watch the world go by. If you continue to walk towards the border, just before the stairs to the bridge on the right, is the Artisans area. You could spend some time looking at the local arts & crafts (did that make me sound gay?). The Hotel Nelson also has a restaurant with patio, at the edge of the Zona and Ave. Revo where you could sit and chill.

If you have mongered in other countries, TJ, and the Zona, is no different. Keep you wits about you and you will be fine.

Health & happiness to all...............

Phordphan
09-15-10, 19:00
Well I finally have my trip planned for Tijuana. I'll be staying at the not so good reviewed San Ysidro Travellodge in early November for 5 nights. I guess its a mile or a few mins walk to the border/jack in the box. I won't have a car or anything. And I plan on getting to Tijuana around noon and staying there all day till nite everyday for those next 5 days.

I just have a few issues I guess.

1. I'm kind of at a loss of what I could do in Tijuana. To recharge in between sessions instead of hanging out at the 3 most popular clubs. I would like to sit somewhere to relax and view the streetgirls. Anyone have a place in mind? Somewhere where I could go to eat, and view the streetgirls at the same time would be nice. LOL

2. How can I fit in with the crowd in Tijuana. While collecting info, someone told me not to where certain clothes with logos, brand names etc. It would make me a target for something I guess. I do stick out like a sorethumb. I'm big, with blonde hair, I look like Dolph Lundren. I don't want to sound gay. But any tips how could I fit in?

3. On my way back past the border to the ol USA at 3am. Would it be a dangerous walk back to the Travellodge in San Ysidro, knowing the fact I don't know the area at all, but only from what I see on google earth. LOL

Also, how much should I carry on reserve for the Tijuana cops?

Ty for the responses, they are greatly appreciated. I am a novice, new to the area and hope to have a good time.

Supersteve's advice is good. Let me add my 2 centavos.

Stay in TJ. Besides Ticuan, there is the Nelson itself, Espana and Caesar, all on Revu. They're all clean and safe. None as nice as Ticuan.

IMHO, walking around at 3am in TJ is FAR safer than walking arouns SY at 3am. I think you're asking for trouble, walking from the border to the Travelodge. IHMO.

If you look like, and are built like, Dolph Lundgren, then nobody's gonna fuck with you. But you will NEVER blend in. So, jeans, shirt, sneaks or boots, whatever. You'll be fine.

The Caliente on Revu (both of them) have places to relax, watch sports, make a few bets, etc. Not bad places to chill.

There are NO places where you can sit and watch the SGs. They don't parade around, but stand in one spot all day.

If you want a bar to chill, the Hotel Nelson Bar is a great place. It's a small, dark watering hole with a pretty good jukebox. The bartender is nice, you may meet some nice people there. No girls to hassle you for drinks. You can sit and sip a beer and watch soccer for as long as you want.

If you want a quiet bar in the zona, try Valentina during the day. Quiet, minimal hassle, no customers. Act like a broke local, order a beer and sit. In most bars the girls will not approach you unless you ask 'em to. So, you won't be bothered until you want.

Take a cab to Plaza Rio. Nice theater, and some restaurants in the area.

Don't worry about the cops. These days they seem to have bigger fish to fry than to knock over the occasional tourist. But read the forums and you'll find loads of advice on what to do if one does hassle you. But, again, it seems that most of their scams have died down significantly.

Super Gato
09-15-10, 22:36
Supersteve's advice is good. Let me add my 2 centavos.

Stay in TJ. Besides Ticuan, there is the Nelson itself, Espana and Caesar, all on Revu. They're all clean and safe. None as nice as Ticuan.

IMHO, walking around at 3am in TJ is FAR safer than walking arouns SY at 3am. I think you're asking for trouble, walking from the border to the Travelodge. IHMO.

If you look like, and are built like, Dolph Lundgren, then nobody's gonna fuck with you. But you will NEVER blend in. So, jeans, shirt, sneaks or boots, whatever. You'll be fine.

The Caliente on Revu (both of them) have places to relax, watch sports, make a few bets, etc. Not bad places to chill.

There are NO places where you can sit and watch the SGs. They don't parade around, but stand in one spot all day.

If you want a bar to chill, the Hotel Nelson Bar is a great place. It's a small, dark watering hole with a pretty good jukebox. The bartender is nice, you may meet some nice people there. No girls to hassle you for drinks. You can sit and sip a beer and watch soccer for as long as you want.

If you want a quiet bar in the zona, try Valentina during the day. Quiet, minimal hassle, no customers. Act like a broke local, order a beer and sit. In most bars the girls will not approach you unless you ask 'em to. So, you won't be bothered until you want.

Take a cab to Plaza Rio. Nice theater, and some restaurants in the area.

Don't worry about the cops. These days they seem to have bigger fish to fry than to knock over the occasional tourist. But read the forums and you'll find loads of advice on what to do if one does hassle you. But, again, it seems that most of their scams have died down significantly.

I agree with the points above. In my numerous trips to TJ, only time I've been scared was walking around in the middle of the night in San Ysidro. I've also seen some sketchy shit on the last trolley. If you must stay at the travel lodge, take a taxi. Before living in SD, I would stay on the Tijuana side. If I got bored with what was going on in TJ, I'd cross over to San Diego and hang out there during the day.

More than trying to fit in with the locals (you can't güero), you should try not to give of the scent of a newbie. The girls, the meseros, the taxi drivers, the random "guides" in the street, everyone will be able to smell the newbie and fleece you accordingly. You're making a great start asking questions in advance, but I would read reports from as far back as you can so when you land you'll look like an old pro. If you look like you're a guy down there all the time, you'll have a better time and not be the target of overcharging. Before my first mongering trip, I read this board and every single other monger board out there and although nothing prepares you for walking into Hong Kong, you're not as doe-eyed as you could be.

You don't want to wear expensive jewelry and watch or flash your smartphone on the streets just like in any sketchy neighborhood. I try to wear darker solid colors so I'm not sticking out like a piñata but I dress comfortably in the same type of clothes I'd wear north of the border. Some guys dress up and may mix the zona norte clubs in with visiting dance clubs.

Blue Nose
09-16-10, 02:44
Well I finally have my trip planned for Tijuana. I'll be staying at the not so good reviewed San Ysidro Travellodge in early November for 5 nights. I guess its a mile or a few mins walk to the border/jack in the box. I won't have a car or anything. And I plan on getting to Tijuana around noon and staying there all day till nite everyday for those next 5 days.

I just have a few issues I guess.

1. I'm kind of at a loss of what I could do in Tijuana. To recharge in between sessions instead of hanging out at the 3 most popular clubs. I would like to sit somewhere to relax and view the streetgirls. Anyone have a place in mind? Somewhere where I could go to eat, and view the streetgirls at the same time would be nice. LOL

2. How can I fit in with the crowd in Tijuana. While collecting info, someone told me not to where certain clothes with logos, brand names etc. It would make me a target for something I guess. I do stick out like a sorethumb. I'm big, with blonde hair, I look like Dolph Lundren. I don't want to sound gay. But any tips how could I fit in?

3. On my way back past the border to the ol USA at 3am. Would it be a dangerous walk back to the Travellodge in San Ysidro, knowing the fact I don't know the area at all, but only from what I see on google earth. LOL

Also, how much should I carry on reserve for the Tijuana cops?

Ty for the responses, they are greatly appreciated. I am a novice, new to the area and hope to have a good time.

Well, I thought I would throw in my two cents as well:

1) Try to stay in TJ if you can...if it's a safety issue, don't sweat it - you will be fine. Unless you absolutely need to cross back to the US each day then I would not advise it.

2) As far as personal safety goes, just take reasonable precautions while you are there: watch where you are walking after dark, try to know where you are going before you depart for it so that you don't look like you are lost; don't get too drunk or obnoxious - act as though you are a guest in somebody's house - having a nice time, but somebody who will be invited back. I would not worry about bribing cops. Unless you're doing something bad (drugs, viagara without prescription, really drunk, DUI, weapons etc.) then you'll be OK. You may be hassled, but you'll be released.

3) In terms of not sticking out, you will stick out since you are a gabacho, but here are some things you can do to mitigate this fact: wear long pants (no shorts), leave the fanny pack in the US (use a money belt, that goes beneath your pants, if you must), don't act like a jerk (drunk, obnoxious, disrespectful to the locals and their laws etc.) The latter sounds like common sense, but you would be surprised how many drunken gabacho jerks there are in TJ!

4) Other than monger, there are plenty of things to do in TJ: grab a massage at Aztec Massage on Revo (legitimate massage for $25 + tip), movie at plaza rio, see the IMAX at Secut (cultural center of TJ), Las Pulgas (local dance club on Revolucion), Caliente casino (sports book) or enjoy one of the finer restaurants in TJ. In terms of watching SGs, best to pick a small restaurant / taco cart in the alley and just chill. Also, if you want to kill time, as somebody noted, go to a bar without much action, order a beer and watch TV (my favorite is to do this at Las Chevalas, when it isn't too crowded, and watch the bull riding / rodeo events.)

5) It's not really safe to walk anywhere at 3am - San Ysidro or TJ. I would not do either, except for ultra-short distances. At that time of night, take a cab, especially in TJ.

6) The Final Word: Discount almost everything you have heard about TJ or border cities in the mass media...it is sensationalized and incorrect. TJ is safe as long as you are not involved in anything bad, take reasonable precautions and exercise common sense. The mass media would have you believe that there is a war going on, but it's not really like that. Just keep your head about you, and you'll be fine. Have a great trip!!

Blue Nose

Stern Fan
09-16-10, 03:09
3. On my way back past the border to the ol USA at 3am. Would it be a dangerous walk back to the Travellodge in San Ysidro, knowing the fact I don't know the area at all, but only from what I see on google earth. LOLJust wanted to let you know that the Travelodge is long gone in San Ysidro and it is now a Rodeway Inn (same building, new name). I've been to Tijuana about 12 times in the past 10 years and I've always stayed state side at the Travelodge, Rodeway Inn or whatever it was called at the time. There have been times where I've been nervous walking back in SY, and usually it's dead, but be very alert. I would typically make 2 Tijuana runs a day, one in the day, then back to SY, then back to Tijuana at night. (Warning: returning to SY during the day can be a 90 minute wait in line). Also, it's alot of walking and I think my next trip in Oct I will be staying at the Ticuan thanks to all of the great advice here. The only reason I haven't done it sooner is to your point that I didn't find the daytime activities (non-chica related) to be interesting. I usually plan my trips to Tijuana around other events in San Diego so I have something to do during the day, like the Miramar Air Show I will be attending in October.

Have fun and be safe!

Artisttyp
09-16-10, 17:48
I would typically make 2 Tijuana runs a day, one in the day, then back to SY, then back to Tijuana at night. (Warning: returning to SY during the day can be a 90 minute wait in line). Also, it's alot of walking


I used to do the same thing at the same hotel. The walk alone will wear you out. By the time I got to the pedestrian bridge I was over it.

What to do ? BUY XMAS PRESENTS. There is a huge outlet mall in san ysidro that houses every brand/label you can think of. Some of the prices are indcredible....sneakers for $32 an authentic reebok padres hoodie for $35 (reg $65)

Look on the tijuana tourism website. There is always some sort of expo or convention going on in TJ.

I would also like to recommend the restauraunts on E street (bay blvd.) Chula Vista. The el toritos has excellent mexican food for a very good price.

Ninguno Especial
09-17-10, 17:20
Just wanted to let you know that the Travelodge is long gone in San Ysidro and it is now a Rodeway Inn (same building, new name).

Yes but there is (or was) another Travelodge over by the Motel 6. Much longer walk to the border if that us a requirement. I noticed a few months ago they were advertising in the Penny Saver weekly rates of $150.

Bob Mc Bobby
09-17-10, 19:46
Thank you guys for the responses. I really appreciate it. You guys have giving me some great tips. I think staying at Hotel Ticuan instead sounds like a better idea than San Ysidro.

Which means i can party late and take a cab back to my hotel. It makes everything alot easier. I guess i did have a few questions though.

If i stay in a mexican hotel, is it safe to drink the water or shower there. I keep hearing people say the water isn't safe.

Also, when i get back to the border after my 5 nite stay.I would have to explain to the border agent what I was doing in Mexico for 5 days. Not sure what i should tell him.lol

Thanks again, If any of you are there in early November. let me know, I'll buy a round of beers lol.

SuperSteve
09-18-10, 00:39
I have never been sick from TJ water. Unless you drink beer, you will also have ice in your mixed drink. Plates in restaurants get washed in water also. People also say that TJ is unsafe. Don't be out of control, and IMHO you will find it safe.

Ticuan is a very good hotel. It is one of the best values for hotels anywhere. You should be able to get a cab to the zona for no more than $3.00. Most will tell you $5.00, but just act like you are walking away and they soon change their minds. It is safe to walk in the day, and about 10 blocks or so from the Zona.

Tell the agent, it could even be a "her", that you spent five days on vacation. They usually don't ask much more, other than, "What are you bringing back", "Where are you going"? The more nervous you act, the more questioning you will get. Remember, if you have nothing illegal in your possession, and have done nothing wrong, there is not reason to be nervous. Just like the locals can pick up on a newbie, ICE is trained to look for "tells". Do not worry, and be your normal self. There is nothing illegal about traveling to TJ.

I may be there in early November with friends, but am going to Medellin at the end of November, so I may not.

Health & happiness to all.............

Member #2041
09-18-10, 00:53
I have never been sick from TJ water. Unless you drink beer, you will also have ice in your mixed drink. Plates in restaurants get washed in water also.

I only drink soft drinks in TJ - straight out of the can.

Joe Arturo
09-18-10, 01:37
Never drink the tap water. YOU WILL GET SICK!!!! It is okay to shower in it and wash dishes, but it has too much bacteria to be drinkable. Drink bottled water only. The ice cubes in the restaurants and bars are all made from purified water. The Mexicans don't even drink the tap water.

Super Gato
09-18-10, 01:40
If i stay in a mexican hotel, is it safe to drink the water or shower there. I keep hearing people say the water isn't safe.

I drink bottled water (swing by an Oxxo and get some for a few pesos a bottle) and use that when I brush my teeth but sometimes I'll forget and use the tap. In the bars like Adelita, Chicago and Hong Kong, I'll drink beer, or get a mineral water with a cup of ice, or a Coca Light in a cup of ice (these bars often keep only beer in the cooler so soft drinks are often at room temp). Just like their American counterparts, the bars have good ice. Sick customers are bad for business. I must have had thousands of drinks over the years and never have gotten sick.

And it is definitely safe to take showers and wash your hands.


Also, when i get back to the border after my 5 nite stay.I would have to explain to the border agent what I was doing in Mexico for 5 days. Not sure what i should tell him.lol
You were on vacation. Tell them you were on vacation. They're not going to ask specifics about it unless you come across a drug dealer, al qaeda member or you look like you're lying to them. Most of the times they won't even ask how long you were in Mexico but if you're traveling with a bag they might. Again, no big deal.

They'll also ask if you're bringing anything back. It is best to declare if you are bringing anything (you're only allowed to bring one liter of booze back). Most of the time during the day they'll have the x-ray machine running where you have to place your luggage. Again, no big deal and much less intrusive than at the airport.

Artisttyp
09-18-10, 02:42
Also, when i get back to the border after my 5 nite stay.I would have to explain to the border agent what I was doing in Mexico for 5 days. Not sure what i should tell him.lol



Try doing that after a 2 week say. This next time will be 3 weeks !

Just be fairly honest and say you came over to see what all the fuss was about. Maybe add you took day trips to rosarito and ensenada. Five days is very easy to explain.

I've been back and forth way too many times but I don't carry anything I'm not supposed to. The worse they could do is give me a hard time which is expected. That is their job.

Daytonamonger
09-18-10, 12:14
Try doing that after a 2 week say. This next time will be 3 weeks !

Just be fairly honest and say you came over to see what all the fuss was about. Maybe add you took day trips to rosarito and ensenada. Five days is very easy to explain.

I've been back and forth way too many times but I don't carry anything I'm not supposed to. The worse they could do is give me a hard time which is expected. That is their job.


Does it matter how long you stayed? I know that mexican law states if you're staying longer than 72 hours you need a tourist visa but if you're crossing back to the border wether it's 73 hours or 4 weeks...you're technically in the united states right? so you got away scot free!? right?

Artisttyp
09-18-10, 17:27
Does it matter how long you stayed? I know that mexican law states if you're staying longer than 72 hours you need a tourist visa but if you're crossing back to the border wether it's 73 hours or 4 weeks...you're technically in the united states right? so you got away scot free!? right?


I picked up a tourist visa last time I was there. It's good for 180 days....last trip was this past june.

Xxnegrito
09-18-10, 20:18
Hey guys, I am getting *access to a 7 passenger van and since am looking for a part time job and kinda missing being in the middle of the action in Tijuana, am offering to shuttle mongers from the Orange Co area to the Border *on Friday evenings and Saturdays *for a low fee. If interested please PM me. Door to border service. Let me know.

TomJackin
09-18-10, 20:51
After spending a few hours in HK in the late afternoon and early evening, I decided to check out a couple of hotels that were mentioned on this board. The first place was Hotel Nelson and it seems to be in a great location for popping in and out of the Zona. The desk clerk told me the rooms were $40 a night with AC, and $35 without AC. I asked him about the noise level because all the rooms seemed to face either on Revolution or on First, both busy areas. He said that it is usually noisy in the evenings and early mornings. The place has two bars, one inside with no windows, and a bar/restaurant with plenty of windows and outdoor seating. I bought a margarita for about $5 and watched the outside crowd for a bit.

I then headed up (or down) Revolution to Hotel Caesars. The single rooms are $33 (two people), they also have Master Suites for $55. The young lady told me they did have rooms off the street that were not noisy at all. I stopped in the restaurant/bar and had an excellent margarita for about $4. Apparently this is the place that invented the Caesar salad. I heard from others in San Diego that the food was excellent; however, I was still full from the street tacos, so I just checked out the menus. They have an impressive wine list menu and the food menu was also impressive. A full page of pasta dishes and I noticed they had beef wellington for less than $18.

Revolution was blocked off in front of the hotel for a Jazz and Blues festival, so I thought I would check it out. Ordered a plastic cup of white wine and the guy behind the bar said I needed to buy a ticket, and I asked from whom, and it turned out to be the guy standing next to me. The ticket was 60 pesos; which I thought was over the top for a little cup of wine. But I guess some money went to the band; which was good.

Started getting nervous, needed to get back to home base. When I returned to HK, the crowd picked up quite a bit. Hung out with my favorite school girl looking ladies; Manzaniita. The sausage festival was now in full swing; so it was time for me to bail. I looked at the time and realized I could make back to Jack in the Box before the 8 hour mark; I was proud of myself. But it was not to be. On my way out I ran into Captain Solo and I still had plenty of pesos & dollar bills; so what the hell!

We hung out at the bar near the front stage and discussed the beauty that HK presented on a daily basis. There was a hottie at the pole on the bar; whom I never saw before, but then again, I usually don't stay that late. She told me her name was Datoka, found out her real name was Sadi and she would turn 22 at midnight; which calls for a drink! She proceeded to give me about a fifteen minute lap dance and Captain Solo got to enjoy the goodies as well.

Shortly after Sadi said goodbye, Alaska took the pole at the bar. If it was not for the swivel seats, I swear I would need treatment for neck pain. Alaska has put on some weight since the pictures were taken for the HK Web site; but she is still fucking hot! And she does smile, especially when you break out a dollar bill!

I talked to Captain Solo about a possible Zona bar crawl. Hit all the bars in the Zona that people try to pull you into, and do a big report on the findings thereafter. Yeah, I would need to bring a small note pad and pen, just so I could remember the places and details. Who knows, there might be one or two gems in the Zona that many of us don't know about it. One drink per bar; how many drinks could that be??? For me, it would be an overnight trip, but I think it would be well worth it. Anyone else interested, send a PM.

Artisttyp
09-18-10, 22:04
After spending a few hours in HK in the late afternoon and early evening, I decided to check out a couple of hotels that were mentioned on this board. The first place was Hotel Nelson and it seems to be in a great location for popping in and out of the Zona. The desk clerk told me the rooms were $40 a night with AC, and $35 without AC. I asked him about the noise level because all the rooms seemed to face either on Revolution or on First, both busy areas. He said that it is usually noisy in the evenings and early mornings. The place has two bars, one inside with no windows, and a bar/restaurant with plenty of windows and outdoor seating. I bought a margarita for about $5 and watched the outside crowd for a bit.

I then headed up (or down) Revolution to Hotel Caesars. The single rooms are $33 (two people), they also have Master Suites for $55. The young lady told me they did have rooms off the street that were not noisy at all. I stopped in the restaurant/bar and had an excellent margarita for about $4. Apparently this is the place that invented the Caesar salad. I heard from others in San Diego that the food was excellent; however, I was still full from the street tacos, so I just checked out the menus. They have an impressive wine list menu and the food menu was also impressive. A full page of pasta dishes and I noticed they had beef wellington for less than $18.

Revolution was blocked off in front of the hotel for a Jazz and Blues festival, so I thought I would check it out. Ordered a plastic cup of white wine and the guy behind the bar said I needed to buy a ticket, and I asked from whom, and it turned out to be the guy standing next to me. The ticket was 60 pesos; which I thought was over the top for a little cup of wine. But I guess some money went to the band; which was good.

Started getting nervous, needed to get back to home base. When I returned to HK, the crowd picked up quite a bit. Hung out with my favorite school girl looking ladies; Manzaniita. The sausage festival was now in full swing; so it was time for me to bail. I looked at the time and realized I could make back to Jack in the Box before the 8 hour mark; I was proud of myself. But it was not to be. On my way out I ran into Captain Solo and I still had plenty of pesos & dollar bills; so what the hell!

We hung out at the bar near the front stage and discussed the beauty that HK presented on a daily basis. There was a hottie at the pole on the bar; whom I never saw before, but then again, I usually don't stay that late. She told me her name was Datoka, found out her real name was Sadi and she would turn 22 at midnight; which calls for a drink! She proceeded to give me about a fifteen minute lap dance and Captain Solo got to enjoy the goodies as well.

Shortly after Sadi said goodbye, Alaska took the pole at the bar. If it was not for the swivel seats, I swear I would need treatment for neck pain. Alaska has put on some weight since the pictures were taken for the HK Web site; but she is still fucking hot! And she does smile, especially when you break out a dollar bill!

I talked to Captain Solo about a possible Zona bar crawl. Hit all the bars in the Zona that people try to pull you into, and do a big report on the findings thereafter. Yeah, I would need to bring a small note pad and pen, just so I could remember the places and details. Who knows, there might be one or two gems in the Zona that many of us don't know about it. One drink per bar; how many drinks could that be??? For me, it would be an overnight trip, but I think it would be well worth it. Anyone else interested, send a PM.


Thanks for the report. I will need to try a meal at ceasars hotel. Were all the single rooms facing revo ?

I will do a sweep of hotels myself when I get there.

Plain White Guy
09-18-10, 22:27
Does it matter how long you stayed? I know that mexican law states if you're staying longer than 72 hours you need a tourist visa but if you're crossing back to the border wether it's 73 hours or 4 weeks...you're technically in the united states right? so you got away scot free!? right?If it worked this way, why would all the people sneaking across the desert be a problem? They would just stand in line, and when they got to the front of the line they'd say, "HA! Fooled you! We're technically in the USA now, so you have to let us in!"

Guidos
09-18-10, 23:18
Hey all,

Huge fan of this blog! Thank you all for the great reports! I'm planning a trip on 9/24. Fly in around 7:30 PM and should be hittin' up Tijuana around 9. Let me know if anyone wants to join.

Thanks!

Guidos

Big John 1
09-19-10, 02:49
Guys,just a few tips from 66 year old Spanish speaking gringo on Social Security!For safe out of zone family run hotel try Hotel Catalina 200p nightly one block off Rev 8 blocks zona internet lobby English speaker owner clean safe do not bring girls here corner Zapata y Madera!Spent week in Hotel Leyna next to Chicago Club got one week 110 dollars much haggling second floor room you can bring girls up just tip parking guys!Spnish helps here no ac nor heat no Internet convenient to all zona.El Norteno locals bar two dollar litos de Tecate same for women mostly 3 to 5s here but much fun!Around corner from HK!Cops protected me handed them burritos and tacos cheap insurance zero hassles!Only real hassle declaring 18 ays in TJ to USA Customs!I love TJ,many great flea markets,regular markets,great for mngering an non mongering on the cheap.Hats off to Tom Jenkins for intial introduction.More real soon.Big John 1

Big John 1
09-19-10, 02:58
After spending a few hours in HK in the late afternoon and early evening, I decided to check out a couple of hotels that were mentioned on this board. The first place was Hotel Nelson and it seems to be in a great location for popping in and out of the Zona. The desk clerk told me the rooms were $40 a night with AC, and $35 without AC. I asked him about the noise level because all the rooms seemed to face either on Revolution or on First, both busy areas. He said that it is usually noisy in the evenings and early mornings. The place has two bars, one inside with no windows, and a bar/restaurant with plenty of windows and outdoor seating. I bought a margarita for about $5 and watched the outside crowd for a bit.

I then headed up (or down) Revolution to Hotel Caesars. The single rooms are $33 (two people), they also have Master Suites for $55. The young lady told me they did have rooms off the street that were not noisy at all. I stopped in the restaurant/bar and had an excellent margarita for about $4. Apparently this is the place that invented the Caesar salad. I heard from others in San Diego that the food was excellent; however, I was still full from the street tacos, so I just checked out the menus. They have an impressive wine list menu and the food menu was also impressive. A full page of pasta dishes and I noticed they had beef wellington for less than $18.

Revolution was blocked off in front of the hotel for a Jazz and Blues festival, so I thought I would check it out. Ordered a plastic cup of white wine and the guy behind the bar said I needed to buy a ticket, and I asked from whom, and it turned out to be the guy standing next to me. The ticket was 60 pesos; which I thought was over the top for a little cup of wine. But I guess some money went to the band; which was good.

Started getting nervous, needed to get back to home base. When I returned to HK, the crowd picked up quite a bit. Hung out with my favorite school girl looking ladies; Manzaniita. The sausage festival was now in full swing; so it was time for me to bail. I looked at the time and realized I could make back to Jack in the Box before the 8 hour mark; I was proud of myself. But it was not to be. On my way out I ran into Captain Solo and I still had plenty of pesos & dollar bills; so what the hell!

We hung out at the bar near the front stage and discussed the beauty that HK presented on a daily basis. There was a hottie at the pole on the bar; whom I never saw before, but then again, I usually don't stay that late. She told me her name was Datoka, found out her real name was Sadi and she would turn 22 at midnight; which calls for a drink! She proceeded to give me about a fifteen minute lap dance and Captain Solo got to enjoy the goodies as well.

Shortly after Sadi said goodbye, Alaska took the pole at the bar. If it was not for the swivel seats, I swear I would need treatment for neck pain. Alaska has put on some weight since the pictures were taken for the HK Web site; but she is still fucking hot! And she does smile, especially when you break out a dollar bill!

I talked to Captain Solo about a possible Zona bar crawl. Hit all the bars in the Zona that people try to pull you into, and do a big report on the findings thereafter. Yeah, I would need to bring a small note pad and pen, just so I could remember the places and details. Who knows, there might be one or two gems in the Zona that many of us don't know about it. One drink per bar; how many drinks could that be??? For me, it would be an overnight trip, but I think it would be well worth it. Anyone else interested, send a PM.Did this for gringo who was scared in zone at night but wanted to be nearby!In August got him 4 weekdays for $100
with manager paid in advance,he liked place!Fare to zona from Nelson only 20p

Daytonamonger
09-19-10, 04:45
If it worked this way, why would all the people sneaking across the desert be a problem? They would just stand in line, and when they got to the front of the line they'd say, "HA! Fooled you! We're technically in the USA now, so you have to let us in!"I'm talking of course that you're LEGALLY allowed to enter the united states. How do they know how long you spent in mexico? It's not like they check your passport when you go INTO mexico. So whats to stop you from staying 5 or 6 days without the tourist visa?

Artisttyp
09-19-10, 05:28
I'm talking of course that you're LEGALLY allowed to enter the united states. How do they know how long you spent in mexico? It's not like they check your passport when you go INTO mexico. So whats to stop you from staying 5 or 6 days without the tourist visa?Most hotels will need to see a passport. I have no idea if that information will somehow get into a data base. There has to be alot of information sharing between both sides regardless of what the headlines read.

Don't sweat it. Do what you are supposed to do (buy a visa) and cross back with a clear mind.

Admin
09-20-10, 00:18
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In recognition of his many great contributions to the Forum, I have given Peter Pan 2009 his own thread titled "Peter Pan 2009 in Tijuana ".

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Big John 1
09-20-10, 01:00
Had been with Lucy a couple times one time the first night in TJ the great guy Tom Jenkins met her!she works the Topical part time also has job in a maquila!Not for everyone.Little English,older,46,very old for business but great personality,excellent BBJ she swallowed once LOL somewhat gordita great lover lots of fun for this 66 year old monger!She tries harder as likely few customers.In looks maybe a five,skill 8,attitude 9.First time jokingly offered her 200p in jest but she countered at 350p gave her 400p!Wonderful sense of humor.Saw her in Mercado de los Todos on day off Central TJ street clothes jeans!I bought her lunch caldo de res!She wanted to go to a placepast Playa Rosarito Potula,i think!It is about 5kms past Rosarito,a collectivo to there only 16 pesos apiece!Reminds me of Mexican fishing villiages way further south like San Blas,Nayarit or Progresso ,Yucatan.run down,all Mexican,no English cheap you buy fish from boats and pay cookshacks to cook up the product delicious.We ate seafood,watched the waves,had way too many caguamas of Tecate we bought from a tienda and sat on sand.At most spent 400 pesosfor a great day!This old sucker almost forget she was in the business!Sadly that night 10pm had to work at Tropical!I was staying at Hotel Leyna she got her work clothes showered in my hotel and guess what unzipped my pants of course resisted she not not want money for this pop just thanked me for a great day..shit emotions starting but logically old man knows better.Big John 1

TomJackin
09-20-10, 05:17
Thanks for the report. I will need to try a meal at ceasars hotel. Were all the single rooms facing revo ?

The young lady at the desk told me there were single rooms off the street and quiet. But she also told me I could reserve rooms on their Web site; which I'm unable to find. I might stay there just for the hell of it cuz of all the tequila I consume in HK. So, I will be able to give you better information before you come. Looking forward to mongering with you again!

TomJackin
09-20-10, 05:26
Had been with Lucy a couple times one time the first night in TJ the great guy Tom Jenkins met her!she works the Topical part time also has job in a maquila!Not for everyone.Little English,older,46,very old for business but great personality,excellent BBJ she swallowed once LOL somewhat gordita great lover lots of fun for this 66 year old monger!She tries harder as likely few customers.In looks maybe a five,skill 8,attitude 9.First time jokingly offered her 200p in jest but she countered at 350p gave her 400p!Wonderful sense of humor.Saw her in Mercado de los Todos on day off Central TJ street clothes jeans!I bought her lunch caldo de res!She wanted to go to a placepast Playa Rosarito Potula,i think!It is about 5kms past Rosarito,a collectivo to there only 16 pesos apiece!Reminds me of Mexican fishing villiages way further south like San Blas,Nayarit or Progresso ,Yucatan.run down,all Mexican,no English cheap you buy fish from boats and pay cookshacks to cook up the product delicious.We ate seafood,watched the waves,had way too many caguamas of Tecate we bought from a tienda and sat on sand.At most spent 400 pesosfor a great day!This old sucker almost forget she was in the business!Sadly that night 10pm had to work at Tropical!I was staying at Hotel Leyna she got her work clothes showered in my hotel and guess what unzipped my pants of course resisted she not not want money for this pop just thanked me for a great day..shit emotions starting but logically old man knows better.Big John 1

I will make it a point to stop by to say hi to Lucy, she seemed like a really nice woman. And I knew once you bought her a drink, you would be out of service for a while.

BTW, I now have a "BJ" distance when I sit at one of the dance stages at HK. No, BJ does not stand for blow job, but for Big John. Because I remember well when you got kicked in the head from that dancer!!! Yep, I keep my BJ distance!

Hope to see you again soon!

Big John 1
09-21-10, 04:41
I will make it a point to stop by to say hi to Lucy, she seemed like a really nice woman. And I knew once you bought her a drink, you would be out of service for a while.

BTW, I now have a "BJ" distance when I sit at one of the dance stages at HK. No, BJ does not stand for blow job, but for Big John. Because I remember well when you got kicked in the head from that dancer!!! Yep, I keep my BJ distance!

Hope to see you again soon!
Yes,try to get there in November .I like TJ!Lucy trying to get out of business you might not find her there.She is realistic,46 is too old for most guys.I frankly know better than to start reltionship with a woman who has worked too much heartache.Yes,hope to see you again envy places you have been!

Kman1
09-21-10, 05:27
Most hotels will need to see a passport. I have no idea if that information will somehow get into a data base. There has to be alot of information sharing between both sides regardless of what the headlines read.

Don't sweat it. Do what you are supposed to do (buy a visa) and cross back with a clear mind.

Hotel Ticuan did not ask me for a passport. Just a photo ID (like Drivers License). Honestly, I dont think they know at the border how long you spent in TJ, its what you tell them. If you stayed only for a few days it really dont matter.

Dave_Far
09-21-10, 05:32
Sorry for being a little off topic. And for the record, I did do a prior search but searches for "food" or "restuarant" didn't really help.

Everytime I go to TJ, I end up eating at the popular corner taco or seafood stand and while I love the food there it's time for something new. Anyone have favorite places to eat? I'm looking for something within a mile or 2 of the Zone. Cheap or high end doesn't matter as long as it's good quality. Thanks in advance

TomJackin
09-21-10, 06:13
Sorry for being a little off topic. And for the record, I did do a prior search but searches for "food" or "restuarant" didn't really help.

Everytime I go to TJ, I end up eating at the popular corner taco or seafood stand and while I love the food there it's time for something new. Anyone have favorite places to eat? I'm looking for something within a mile or 2 of the Zone. Cheap or high end doesn't matter as long as it's good quality. Thanks in advance

This page is a good start:

http://www.mattatouille.com/2009/07/baja-food-decathlon-part-2-tijuana.html

I went to Restaurante Espanol Lorca and the food was excellent. Also, I heard many good things about the Hotel Caesar's restaurant.

Artisttyp
09-21-10, 06:36
Sorry for being a little off topic. And for the record, I did do a prior search but searches for "food" or "restuarant" didn't really help.

Everytime I go to TJ, I end up eating at the popular corner taco or seafood stand and while I love the food there it's time for something new. Anyone have favorite places to eat? I'm looking for something within a mile or 2 of the Zone. Cheap or high end doesn't matter as long as it's good quality. Thanks in advance


There is alot of good food in TJ. I listed a few places in my last report.

There are also some tijuana blogs (google it) that offer excellent suggestions from expats living there.

I will visit a few when I get there and report back on them.

* If you wan't to treat yourself to a decent mexican meal go to "cien anos" a block or two from discoteca the rock. All cabbies know it. Lunch will set you back $22 with tip. It's well worth.

Anywhere on revolution will be more expensive and not as good....however tom liked the food at the ceasars hotel. I will check that out too.

Hambone78
09-21-10, 07:12
Its a little farther than 2 miles but the best thing that I have had so far in Tijuana is hands down Wash Mobile Tortas. If you tell the taxi to take you to the corner of Agua Caliente and Calle Jalisco its about 500 feet down Jalisco. Its a stand that has been there since the 60s. 2 carne asada tortas and a cup of horchata will run you 8 bucks but its well worth it. Its become one of my favorite sandwiches I have ever had.

Phordphan
09-21-10, 08:19
Sorry for being a little off topic. And for the record, I did do a prior search but searches for "food" or "restuarant" didn't really help.

Everytime I go to TJ, I end up eating at the popular corner taco or seafood stand and while I love the food there it's time for something new. Anyone have favorite places to eat? I'm looking for something within a mile or 2 of the Zone. Cheap or high end doesn't matter as long as it's good quality. Thanks in advance

Chiki Jai, NE side of Revu and 7th (?). Across from the Jai Alai fronton. Small joint. Good tapas-style food. Been there since the 1940s. Check out the mushrooms. Wine is OK. IIRC, dinner for two set me back around $40 a while back.

Fish taco stand, corner of Madero and 3rd. Best fish tacos you're gonna find anywhere. Shrimp, too. And, usually some grilled dorado. Lots of locals, no gringos. Closes at dusk.

Ninguno Especial
09-22-10, 02:25
Everytime I go to TJ, I end up eating at the popular corner taco or seafood stand and while I love the food there it's time for something new. Anyone have favorite places to eat?

There is a new place across from Adelita Bar that is getting good reports. Also a place on Revolucion West side just South of 2nd. It is below the Azetca Massage and a bit South. Same owner has a bar upstairs (formerly Buckets).

Great fish tacos and full menu with beer and all the waitresses are YUMMY!

Guidos
09-22-10, 02:27
Hey guys,

Does Hotel Ticuan have a 800 number? Also, are rooms pretty easy to come by there? Do the generally welcome walk ins on the weekend or is this something one should set up in advance?

Thank you!

Guidos

TomJackin
09-22-10, 05:57
Does Hotel Ticuan have a 800 number? Also, are rooms pretty easy to come by there? Do the generally welcome walk ins on the weekend or is this something one should set up in advance?

Hotel Ticuan does have a Web site and will offer Internet specials; they reply quickly. Big recommendation: Bring a copy of your online reservation with you. They tried to charge me a higher rate at the desk until I showed them a copy of the online reservation.

Guidos
09-23-10, 02:35
Hotel Ticuan does have a Web site and will offer Internet specials; they reply quickly. Big recommendation: Bring a copy of your online reservation with you. They tried to charge me a higher rate at the desk until I showed them a copy of the online reservation.Thanks man! I appreciate the help!

Super Gato
09-24-10, 01:18
Crossing back into the US at the San Ysidro station last night, I saw they've put up new signs and a new lane for pedestrians so there are now three. The left lane remains the SENTRI cardholder lane. The middle lane has signs marking it for WHTI compliant people only (passport/passport card/Mexicans with permiso/Laser visa/etc) and a new lane for people are aren't complaint. That line was closed (it was 3am so there was only 2 agents and about 4 people going through the line)

I asked the CBP agent at the desk what difference the new lines will mean and he said that on October 1 people w/o proper documents will have to wait in the special line and only ONE agent will be working on people so there will be delays. The other lanes will be open for people with proper passport/passport card. I would also think that the agent working that non-compliant line won't just let people who "look American" to pass, but to make sure they're who they say they are.

The last I read from an article int the U-T, 90+% of crossers have the right docs so this is an effort to get those 10% to get around to getting a passport or passport card. So it won't make getting through the line faster, unless you're like me and unlucky and end up picking the line that has a bunch of people who are crossing w/o any ID or notes from their mom.

For an American citizen, the WHTI has no law saying you won't be allowed back into the country without proper paperwork but it will get increasingly inconvenient and time consuming (I would suggest for people going to Tijuana without proper ID to cross in the middle of the night when there's no line).

Wasted Kkid
09-24-10, 23:36
I'm planning to drop off a friend at the airport tonight about 9ish. Is there any action around that area that i could partake in? I dont wanna drive too far out of my way.

TomJackin
09-25-10, 21:15
after a couple of great tacos off the pork roll with lots of hot sauce, i found myself a booth with an ac vent above it in the back of hk. there was great looking lady who was also hot sitting under another vent fanning herself; unsure if she just finished tacos as well. we joked about the vents and it turns out that her ac vent sucked. i told her she could sit in the booth behind me and share my vent; and she did. her name is roxanna and she is build quite well. her english was decent, which helped. she told me that her pussy was closed and tight because she did not have sex in over a week. so i asked her how much she was charging and she said $80. i told her that was the problem, and that very few people wanted to pay that much, considering many in hk will go upstairs for $60, and some $50, and i was quoted a couple of times $40 from a couple of the hk hotties. she begged to differ, but had no logic to her argument. i said, ok, so you sit around looking beautiful waiting for an $80 dude, which could be for hours. rather than going up stairs a few times for $60; do the math lady. either way, she was fun to talk to and touch, and i enjoyed our little argument; but she is better looking, so i think she won.

decided to do some bar recon at about 9 and it lasted until 11:30 or so. first i made my rounds in adelita (which i have been doing on a weekly basis.) i have not seen the hk sharks in there the past few weeks, the biggest shark, half naked maribel, included. the place seemed half full, maybe because it was still early. there were plenty of hotties waiting to go upstairs. there was a dancer on stage, a hottie too; dollar well spent.

i stopped over to tropical to see if big john's lucy was there (she wasn't). sat at the bar and ordered a screwdriver and the bartender asked me for $4.50, and my reply was wtf??? the guy next to me turned out to be retired military as well and intervened. he said the bartender used absolute vodka and that's why it cost so much. i told the dude next to me to translate the following to the bartender, "i did not ask for absolute vodka, i can see some of the finest ass in the world in hk for $3 screwdrivers, i will pay for the drink, making up my loss with his tip." as far as women, there were some pretty women sitting at the doorway just past the curtain, and a few others rep001tered throughout the club. the gal on the barstool on the other side of me had a real pretty face and smile, but i have this rule, i don't want to have sex with a woman that has a larger gut than mine; and she did.

i recently noticed a new sign in one of the alley bars; named cachanilla. stopped in there and headed for the bar. small place with about 5 women, mostly older and big. did a shot and moved across the street to la valentina. huge place and not a damn thing happening! didn't even have a drink; just walked a bit and left. the next place was la malquerida (newer place), same owner as hk. this place has potential. i sat at the bar between two pretty women and ordered up a drink. again, the $4.50 thing came up, but this time i said fuck that, pushed the little glass of vodka back to the bartender and told him $3.00; he looked confused. the bartender called over one of the english speaking servers and the server explained to me that the bartender was new, and the $3 vodka was available. the server also explained that there is a full blown lesbian show that started later, but i did not ask what time. this bar had a lot of women throughout the place; some hotties included. i spent more time than i should have talking to the beauty next to me and almost forgot about the mission.

last stop before going back to hk was the place next door to hk, i think is called bontana? either way, it is the only club between hk and the taco stand. there was a dancer on stage, so i took a spot there, and i was the only one sitting at the stage. i felt a pair of great hands massaging my shoulders and she was doing one hell of a job. i expected to turn around and see a large troll, but it turns out she was nice looking and her gut was smaller than mine; so let's have a drink. bad move because after her drink came, she stopped massaging and sat down. but it was not such a bad move after all, because she shifted her massaging hands to my crotch; bingo. i liked her for a good 15 minutes until she asked me for $20 and i asked for what? she started talking about her children, her parents, and other various problems. yep, back home to hk!

Sunset Strip
09-25-10, 21:34
I'm planning to drop off a friend at the airport tonight about 9ish. Is there any action around that area that i could partake in? I dont wanna drive too far out of my way.

yes there is action in San Diego in the area called Midway, which is very close to the airport. But you DO NOT want to get busted in San Diego. The judges feel absolutely NO sympathy for you because they know you can just go to TJ. IT IS NOT WORTH IT!

Undercover cops are always out in San Diego and they will try to ruin you! Leave it alone and stick to TJ.

SS

Reinaldo
09-26-10, 00:53
There is a new place across from Adelita Bar that is getting good reports. Also a place on Revolucion West side just South of 2nd. It is below the Azetca Massage and a bit South. Same owner has a bar upstairs (formerly Buckets).

Great fish tacos and full menu with beer and all the waitresses are YUMMY!

The name of this place is Mariscos El Palmar.

Big John 1
09-26-10, 02:03
after a couple of great tacos off the pork roll with lots of hot sauce, i found myself a booth with an ac vent above it in the back of hk. there was great looking lady who was also hot sitting under another vent fanning herself; unsure if she just finished tacos as well. we joked about the vents and it turns out that her ac vent sucked. i told her she could sit in the booth behind me and share my vent; and she did. her name is roxanna and she is build quite well. her english was decent, which helped. she told me that her pussy was closed and tight because she did not have sex in over a week. so i asked her how much she was charging and she said $80. i told her that was the problem, and that very few people wanted to pay that much, considering many in hk will go upstairs for $60, and some $50, and i was quoted a couple of times $40 from a couple of the hk hotties. she begged to differ, but had no logic to her argument. i said, ok, so you sit around looking beautiful waiting for an $80 dude, which could be for hours. rather than going up stairs a few times for $60; do the math lady. either way, she was fun to talk to and touch, and i enjoyed our little argument; but she is better looking, so i think she won.

decided to do some bar recon at about 9 and it lasted until 11:30 or so. first i made my rounds in adelita (which i have been doing on a weekly basis.) i have not seen the hk sharks in there the past few weeks, the biggest shark, half naked maribel, included. the place seemed half full, maybe because it was still early. there were plenty of hotties waiting to go upstairs. there was a dancer on stage, a hottie too; dollar well spent.

i stopped over to tropical to see if big john's lucy was there (she wasn't). sat at the bar and ordered a screwdriver and the bartender asked me for $4.50, and my reply was wtf??? the guy next to me turned out to be retired military as well and intervened. he said the bartender used absolute vodka and that's why it cost so much. i told the dude next to me to translate the following to the bartender, "i did not ask for absolute vodka, i can see some of the finest ass in the world in hk for $3 screwdrivers, i will pay for the drink, making up my loss with his tip." as far as women, there were some pretty women sitting at the doorway just past the curtain, and a few others rep001tered throughout the club. the gal on the barstool on the other side of me had a real pretty face and smile, but i have this rule, i don't want to have sex with a woman that has a larger gut than mine; and she did.

i recently noticed a new sign in one of the alley bars; named cachanilla. stopped in there and headed for the bar. small place with about 5 women, mostly older and big. did a shot and moved across the street to la valentina. huge place and not a damn thing happening! didn't even have a drink; just walked a bit and left. the next place was la malquerida (newer place), same owner as hk. this place has potential. i sat at the bar between two pretty women and ordered up a drink. again, the $4.50 thing came up, but this time i said fuck that, pushed the little glass of vodka back to the bartender and told him $3.00; he looked confused. the bartender called over one of the english speaking servers and the server explained to me that the bartender was new, and the $3 vodka was available. the server also explained that there is a full blown lesbian show that started later, but i did not ask what time. this bar had a lot of women throughout the place; some hotties included. i spent more time than i should have talking to the beauty next to me and almost forgot about the mission.

last stop before going back to hk was the place next door to hk, i think is called bontana? either way, it is the only club between hk and the taco stand. there was a dancer on stage, so i took a spot there, and i was the only one sitting at the stage. i felt a pair of great hands massaging my shoulders and she was doing one hell of a job. i expected to turn around and see a large troll, but it turns out she was nice looking and her gut was smaller than mine; so let's have a drink. bad move because after her drink came, she stopped massaging and sat down. but it was not such a bad move after all, because she shifted her massaging hands to my crotch; bingo. i liked her for a good 15 minutes until she asked me for $20 and i asked for what? she started talking about her children, her parents, and other various problems. yep, back home to hk!
yes,thanks for loooking for lucy,as i said she very part time and trying to get out of business she is pretty attractive for 46 but most guys even older guys prefer young girls i respect their opinions personally i prefer bit older.big johnps.think she wants a relationship but this hardly ever works with women who have been in business no matter how genuine their intentions.

Xxnegrito
09-27-10, 23:39
Door to border service, pm if interested.

Fri after 5pm, sat and sun after 1pm

Dornyone
10-02-10, 02:45
Some of us, as we age, get hairier in unwanted places and thin out where we were hairiest, so to speak. Anyone got a recommendation for a place that does laser hair removal? My ears are getting so I can braid them :)
It'll give me an excuse to be in the area for repeat visits too.
PM me if you like

Artisttyp
10-02-10, 03:22
Some of us, as we age, get hairier in unwanted places and thin out where we were hairiest, so to speak. Anyone got a recommendation for a place that does laser hair removal? My ears are getting so I can braid them :)
It'll give me an excuse to be in the area for repeat visits too.
PM me if you like


From my experience TJ is not the place to get spa service. Prices are not much different than what you can get in the states. I enjoy getting some work done when I travel but there is no benefit in doing so in TJ. Of course this is all IMHO.

If prices don't matter vivamex on revolucion and another one two blocks down from the arc towards the pedestrian bridge(left hand side) are decent choices.

Plaza rio would be another option.

I am a hairy guy too. I am finally at peace with it. All I do is trim using clippers. Look into something called an "oster" clipper machine and buy a few blades. It is the smoothest machine out there.

Be aware that laser hair removal is costly and your hair will probably grow back.

Nauskas
10-02-10, 05:40
I have seen folks mention this and see offices about.

Just wondering if there are any places folks care to suggest.

No idea about pricing here either.

Party God
10-03-10, 14:34
I have seen folks mention this and see offices about.

Just wondering if there are any places folks care to suggest.

No idea about pricing here either.

Got some work done about 2 years ago. Can't remember the place. Pricing is about 10 percent of US cost.

Artisttyp
10-03-10, 17:01
I have seen folks mention this and see offices about.

Just wondering if there are any places folks care to suggest.

No idea about pricing here either.

A good idea is to stop by the information center before you go through the turnstiles (coming into TJ). They should have some information for you.

Another idea is to go to any high end hotel and ask the concierge to point you in the right direction.

References though are vital IMHO.

Oh Ya Papi
10-03-10, 18:16
hey guys, i have read the other reports and will print out some info. I go to TJ second time and i fly into SD airport.

but i have a question. i have a flight at 2:40 in the afternoon out of SD, i shouldn't have any trouble on this sunday gettin to the airport with the shuttle bus method right? i should leave the hotel at like 9am, cuz i know a taxi is like 50 bucks from border to airport right?

If any one can repost the line # and bus # again youd be a champ! happy ,mongering!!!

Party God
10-03-10, 18:49
hey guys, i have read the other reports and will print out some info. I go to TJ second time and i fly into SD airport.

but i have a question. i have a flight at 2:40 in the afternoon out of SD, i shouldn't have any trouble on this sunday gettin to the airport with the shuttle bus method right? i should leave the hotel at like 9am, cuz i know a taxi is like 50 bucks from border to airport right?

If any one can repost the line # and bus # again youd be a champ! happy ,mongering!!!

I would take the trolley to downtown San Diego. You can board the trolley in San Ysidro right when you walk outside of passport control. Get off in downtown san diego and take a taxi to the airport. That would be the fastest.

Phordphan
10-03-10, 19:27
I have seen folks mention this and see offices about.

Just wondering if there are any places folks care to suggest.

No idea about pricing here either.

I took a relative here about a year ago. His work (fillings and a few odds and ends) seemed very competent. Very careful, explains all the procedures, makes sure you understand things like the water he's using is purified, etc. :D The relative's US dentist had nothing bad to say about the work.

He's a really nice guy, speaks great Ingles. His mother was Scottish, or English, or some such.

http://drdelavega.com/

Prices were something like 10% or 20% of USA.

Chinaman6969
10-04-10, 00:31
Did you friend got it from TJ.

Particularly the girls from the clubs such as hk, cc and ab?

Oh Ya Papi
10-04-10, 03:26
got it thanks there is a web site that you can enter start and end local and it tells ya everything

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hey guys, i have read the other reports and will print out some info. I go to TJ second time and i fly into SD airport.

but i have a question. i have a flight at 2:40 in the afternoon out of SD, i shouldn't have any trouble on this sunday gettin to the airport with the shuttle bus method right? i should leave the hotel at like 9am, cuz i know a taxi is like 50 bucks from border to airport right?

If any one can repost the line # and bus # again youd be a champ! happy ,mongering!!!

Purayil
10-04-10, 16:40
thanks to the voluminous forum reports& artistyps tips, my short stay in tijuana was a worthy one. reached tijuana from wash. dc (hopping flights rather tiring)on 25 th evening(thanks to forum the 992 bus, blue trolley, border crossing yellocab. everything was so easy)

prior to comming to tijuana, i have found one faithy from tijuana craiglist who offered non sexual services at10 usd/hr. after checking in at ticuen(artistyps suggestion)had a much needed shower& a cognac(bought locally)called faithy who came in a minivan equipped with massage paraphernalia including a table. she gave a decent massage&took me to zona norte&showed me all the must see bars. we had dinner at a restaurent opposite to adelitas. went first to hk who took the cover charges. it was full to the brim&smokefilled.

a not so young faty on soapy show was trying hard to jerk off a yellow mans johny. had a beer & was joined by? claris and later by laura. after 4 lady drinks& plenty of rubbings went to adelitas. penelope excited me &after a beer&lady drink went upstairs with her. had a satisfactory session with her nothing to write home about but then, repeatable. it was almost 2 am by then

went to chicago & returned in same speed-came back to ticuen & had wonderful time dancing at the disco joint(50 peso cover)adjacent to ticuen

sunday &monday mornings went to rosarito& ensanada respectivly in faithys van & it was really a pleasant experience

both of these days evenings were dedicated to hk & adelitas though visited atleast 6-7 nearby bars. there were no gems i could see in the minor bars

cludia of adelita& brigit of hk are worth mentioning,. claudia(in 30 s)for her excellent english skills& gfe and brigit for her beauty. she was a gem but then the handicap was the language. spanish is greek& latin to me

the 2 young attendants at ticuen had a list of freelancers& i gambled one from edward alias skinny. ruby was her name & very enthusiastic in all aspects but then she is an overcrooner

also had nohelia from baja vip (ariel was not available after 6 pm it seems)

she was all in smiles when i showed her picture in my ipad. had an excellent 2 hr session. there were couple of others but just alsorans. the street scene did nothing to wake up my johny-mabe i didn't see the best places

faithy turned out to be a resourceful multifaceted person(of course sex with her was not there in my agenda)

returned to san deigo on 28 th morning. my flight to wash. dc was at 8am & i had some apprehension. but then crossed border at 5. 15 am & reached airport well ahead. direct flight to wash dc& long 12 hr flight back to india

well, i enjoyed both mongering&sightseeing in tijuana. september 2011, my nex tvisit will be purly for mongering at tijuana.

Big John 1
10-05-10, 03:10
thanks to the voluminous forum reports& artistyps tips, my short stay in tijuana was a worthy one. reached tijuana from wash. dc (hopping flights rather tiring)on 25 th evening(thanks to forum the 992 bus, blue trolley, border crossing yellocab. everything was so easy)

prior to comming to tijuana, i have found one faithy from tijuana craiglist who offered non sexual services at10 usd/hr. after checking in at ticuen(artistyps suggestion)had a much needed shower& a cognac(bought locally)called faithy who came in a minivan equipped with massage paraphernalia including a table. she gave a decent massage&took me to zona norte&showed me all the must see bars. we had dinner at a restaurent opposite to adelitas. went first to hk who took the cover charges. it was full to the brim&smokefilled.

a not so young faty on soapy show was trying hard to jerk off a yellow mans johny. had a beer & was joined by? claris and later by laura. after 4 lady drinks& plenty of rubbings went to adelitas. penelope excited me &after a beer&lady drink went upstairs with her. had a satisfactory session with her nothing to write home about but then, repeatable. it was almost 2 am by then

went to chicago & returned in same speed-came back to ticuen & had wonderful time dancing at the disco joint(50 peso cover)adjacent to ticuen

sunday &monday mornings went to rosarito& ensanada respectivly in faithys van & it was really a pleasant experience

both of these days evenings were dedicated to hk & adelitas though visited atleast 6-7 nearby bars. there were no gems i could see in the minor bars

cludia of adelita& brigit of hk are worth mentioning,. claudia(in 30 s)for her excellent english skills& gfe and brigit for her beauty. she was a gem but then the handicap was the language. spanish is greek& latin to me

the 2 young attendants at ticuen had a list of freelancers& i gambled one from edward alias skinny. ruby was her name & very enthusiastic in all aspects but then she is an overcrooner

also had nohelia from baja vip (ariel was not available after 6 pm it seems)

she was all in smiles when i showed her picture in my ipad. had an excellent 2 hr session. there were couple of others but just alsorans. the street scene did nothing to wake up my johny-mabe i didn't see the best places

faithy turned out to be a resourceful multifaceted person(of course sex with her was not there in my agenda)

returned to san deigo on 28 th morning. my flight to wash. dc was at 8am & i had some apprehension. but then crossed border at 5. 15 am & reached airport well ahead. direct flight to wash dc& long 12 hr flight back to india

well, i enjoyed both mongering&sightseeing in tijuana. september 2011, my nex tvisit will be purly for mongering at tijuana.
sounds like person worth knowing for my visit next month.since you are a regular member cannot pm me with email or phone of faithy and sure do not want to viloate jacksons rules maybe can tell me how to find faithy on craigs did some looking could find her.appreciate your pointing me in right direction with out violating forum rules.thanks,big john

Hambone78
10-05-10, 07:43
About how much does a 100mg dose of viagra cost at a pharmacy in Tijuana? When you first go through the first gates are there any close reliable pharmacies that sell Viagra? How long does it take before Viagra usually kicks in? Any help would be appreciated. One more thing, anyone with a VIP card for Hong Kong, have you used it to get half price off lap dances? If so let me know.

Thank you guys!

Hargow20
10-05-10, 16:01
I was wondering if anyone knows about the history of the Zona Norte and how it started...? I do know that about 10 or 15 years ago a lot of people were upset with the SG's and the city forced them to work in the Zona Norte.

Jim0129
10-06-10, 03:42
Hi! that's not right, I really don't know the story of the zona, and I am ashamed to admit it because I am a local, but just to give you an example, Adelitas is going to be 50 years old in two years (founded in 1962) so the foundation of the zona wasn't 15 years ago, I've been going to la zona since I was 18 and I'm now 35 and thats even more.


I was wondering if anyone knows about the history of the Zona Norte and how it started...? I do know that about 10 or 15 years ago a lot of people were upset with the SG's and the city forced them to work in the Zona Norte.

Super Gato
10-06-10, 04:17
About how much does a 100mg dose of viagra cost at a pharmacy in Tijuana? When you first go through the first gates are there any close reliable pharmacies that sell Viagra? How long does it take before Viagra usually kicks in? Any help would be appreciated. One more thing, anyone with a VIP card for Hong Kong, have you used it to get half price off lap dances? If so let me know.

Thank you guys!

The pharmacies right at the border will charge around $12 for a 100mg tab of Viagra. For most people, the pill will be absorbed by your system within 30 minutes (depends on if you've taken the pill on an empty stomach or have been drinking).

There is a generic version called Maxifort (50mg) available for $4-5/pill sold in bottles of 4 or 10.

Phordphan
10-06-10, 16:51
I was wondering if anyone knows about the history of the Zona Norte and how it started...? I do know that about 10 or 15 years ago a lot of people were upset with the SG's and the city forced them to work in the Zona Norte.

You may be confusing this with another incident. Sometime around then, but probably not quite that long ago, the city tried to force the SGs to work inside. They didn't want them standing around on the streets anymore. But the idea was met with fierce resistence by the girls themselves. So, the city shelved the idea.

Dornyone
10-07-10, 07:05
While we've all become somewhat sanguine about the drug wars and their impact on TJ, the word is, that's all about to change. This is a fairly graphic blog that stays current on the scum that are screwing the place up
http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2010/10/el-chapo-will-bring-war-to-tijuana.html

Artisttyp
10-10-10, 23:02
I am getting ready to ship out soon:

1. I need to buy a space heater for my room. Would walmart be the best ? I have between $40/50 to spend on one.

2. I've been reading about TJ residents being limited to the amount of US dollars they can accept. I doubt people give a crap but is this affecting any cambio places ?

3. Where is Ave 5 y 10 ? I don't see it on my map. I believe that is where walmart is but I have no idea how to get there.

Thanks.

Jim0129
10-11-10, 00:42
Just for informative purposes,

There is a restriction on how many dollars they businesses can accept, this doesn't affect anyone who is not a formal business, however, even business owners have found ways to get around this restriction, so don't worry about it.

The "5y10" its not a street, its actualy an intersection, a crossing of two main boulevards located in the "la mesa" area of TJ, this name is of popular creation, there used to be a "5 and 10" store at the corner of that crossing back in the 80's, it was the same as the 0.99 cents stores back in the US, anyway, everybody started calling the intersection as "5y10" becase the store had a big shiny neon sign on it and everybody saw it, these days, the store is long long gone but the name sticks, you can ask any cab driver to take you there, everyone knows it.


I am getting ready to ship out soon:

1. I need to buy a space heater for my room. Would walmart be the best ? I have between $40/50 to spend on one.

2. I've been reading about TJ residents being limited to the amount of US dollars they can accept. I doubt people give a crap but is this affecting any cambio places ?

3. Where is Ave 5 y 10 ? I don't see it on my map. I believe that is where walmart is but I have no idea how to get there.

Thanks.

Reinaldo
10-11-10, 03:55
I am getting ready to ship out soon:

1. I need to buy a space heater for my room. Would walmart be the best ? I have between $40/50 to spend on one.

2. I've been reading about TJ residents being limited to the amount of US dollars they can accept. I doubt people give a crap but is this affecting any cambio places ?

3. Where is Ave 5 y 10 ? I don't see it on my map. I believe that is where walmart is but I have no idea how to get there.

Thanks.

2. I use ATM's rather than cambios but neither the San Diego nor Tijuana press have run any stories about problems with them.


3. 5 y 10 refers to the area around the intersection of Lazaro Cardenas and Diaz Ordaz but there is no Walmart there.

Reinaldo
10-11-10, 03:59
While we've all become somewhat sanguine about the drug wars and their impact on TJ, the word is, that's all about to change. This is a fairly graphic blog that stays current on the scum that are screwing the place up
http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2010/10/el-chapo-will-bring-war-to-tijuana.html

Thanks for posting the link. I don't believe that Capella's position is the consensus view and I think the article misrepresented General Duarte's position. Zeta a weekly paper recently ran an interview with Duarte and I don't recall him saying anything like that.

Big John 1
10-12-10, 22:30
2. I use ATM's rather than cambios but neither the San Diego nor Tijuana press have run any stories about problems with them.


3. 5 y 10 refers to the area around the intersection of Lazaro Cardenas and Diaz Ordaz but there is no Walmart there.
There is a Wal Mart on the way to 5 and 10,many collectivos on NW Corner of Zapato y Madero kittycorner from Hotel Catalina,some say 5y10 on front some Wal Mart some Mercado de Los Todos,market with everything past Wal Mart I recommend this place open 7 dayscolectivo about 8 pesos.Also some collectivos say Swap Meet in English on Weekends there is giant swap meet here by 5 y 10,it will put Wal Mart to shame unless you seek something specific hope this helps.Bigjohn

Dornyone
10-15-10, 20:17
Thanks for posting the link. I don't believe that Capella's position is the consensus view and I think the article misrepresented General Duarte's position. Zeta a weekly paper recently ran an interview with Duarte and I don't recall him saying anything like that.
Well, like it or not, TJ is rockin', 18 dead this week.
Stay out of the Taxi Libres, looks like they might be couriers.

"The party were the killings took place may have also been a well known tiendita or drug house and the base of operations for the transport of illegal substances, which were delivered by the taxi service."

It would suck to be a fare when TSHTF.

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2010/10/tijuana-violence-18-dead-since-sunday.html

Artisttyp
10-16-10, 20:02
Well, like it or not, TJ is rockin', 18 dead this week.
Stay out of the Taxi Libres, looks like they might be couriers.

"The party were the killings took place may have also been a well known tiendita or drug house and the base of operations for the transport of illegal substances, which were delivered by the taxi service."

It would suck to be a fare when TSHTF.

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2010/10/tijuana-violence-18-dead-since-sunday.html


This was a very interesting read. Thank you for posting it. Obviously the timing was meant to coincide with the calderon innovadora conference.

I am curious to know what the boundaries are for the zona central ? Colonia mexico sounds very familiar and so does colonia libertad. Libertad is in otay and colonia mexico rather close to el centro ?

Again great read..thanks.

Super Gato
10-17-10, 05:14
This was a very interesting read. Thank you for posting it. Obviously the timing was meant to coincide with the calderon innovadora conference.

I am curious to know what the boundaries are for the zona central ? Colonia mexico sounds very familiar and so does colonia libertad. Libertad is in otay and colonia mexico rather close to el centro ?

Again great read..thanks.


Col Mexico is probably 10km south of Zona Norte and mostly residential. Tijuana is broken into delegaciones (delegations or boroughs) , and delegations are broken into colonias. TJ has nine delegations. It can be confusing because Centro can be referring to the delegation or the zone. Centro includes the downtown area from the border including Zona Norte, Zona Centro, Zona Rio, Independencia and many, many others). To west of Centro is delegacion Playas, to the east Otay, and San Antonio de los Buenos to the south. Col Mexico is in far south Centro.

Here's a map. http://www.tijuana.gob.mx/Delegaciones/Delegaciones.asp?delegacion=2 .

Sunset Strip
10-17-10, 15:49
Hi! that's not right, I really don't know the story of the zona, and I am ashamed to admit it because I am a local, but just to give you an example, Adelitas is going to be 50 years old in two years (founded in 1962) so the foundation of the zona wasn't 15 years ago, I've been going to la zona since I was 18 and I'm now 35 and thats even more.

Yeah, the zona has been around as long as San Diego has been a Navy town.

And didn't they have a scene in Seabiscuit where they came down to TJ to race. Remember? That would have been during WWII.

But as Jim says, I know I have been in the zona since the late 80's, and know it was well developed back then.

And I know a WWII veteran who spoke of it fondly with me before he died a few years ago. No condom sex back in the day, he said!

SS

John Rain
10-17-10, 23:14
Hi Guys! I used to post here in the TJ forums a lot a few years back but in recent years circumstances have allowed only a couple of trips. I did make a trip this past week, Sunday October 10th and Monday October 11th. I have already posted two reports about my experiences with two muchachas at Las Chavelas in the new thread dedicated to Las Chavelas (http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=3128). Herein follows my other experiences and observations.

Part One: Early Sunday Afternoon
I have been looking forward to this trip for months now. It’s been almost two years since my last trip. I used to be in TJ once or twice a month. I know a dozen girls well and another dozen slightly. At my last visit four women I know well had already left. One married a gringo, one retired and lives elsewhere in Tijuana and two others retired and returned to their home towns. Two were very close and I’ll miss their companionship. They were great for activities outside of Zona Norte and gave me experiences I would never have had otherwise. But they are gone.

Now there are two women on my mind. Friends of sorts, of course, our regular normal lives can never mix--too many complications on both sides to ever allow that to happen. But when in Tijuana, they are my friends and muy simpático. At least in my mind they two woman I would very much like to hold once again. Will they be there? What if I never see them again? Are they okay?

I am rather fussy about what I need to travel to TJ and spend Saturday trying to remember everything and get it ready. I prepare a small backpack to hold a change of clothes and all the little comforts I like as well as a few things for the girls. Sunday morning I am excited and wake early like 6 am. By 11 am I am anxious to leave although it is rather early. I stop for gas and then head down I-5. There is little traffic. I’m surprised, the whole trip it is wide open. I reach San Ysidro and pull into the Ueno parking lot. I cross over the border.

I avoid the Yellow Taxi parking lot and exit to the right by the pharmacies instead. I get into the first taxi and ask him to take me to Revolución by el arco. On the ride over, I don’t see many Americans walking around. We reach the arch and I ask him to turn the corner at Art. 123 and drop me at Constitución.

It’s about 1 pm. I’m excited. What will TJ be like? The last couple of years we in SoCal have been pounded with news reports of the dangers of TJ. What’s the truth now? So I head down the hill of Constitución quickly watching my surroundings but also keen to see if I recognize any of the girls. A few familiar faces, but nobody I’ve ever been with.

Nearing the bottom of the hill I strain to look over at the corner of the alley were my favorite, Miss Perfect, often stands. She’s not there, damn! My heart drops a little, why did I not come here for so long? I cross Constitución and stand where she should be but is not.

It’s empty here. I know it’s early on a Sunday but I have been here many, many times. And my favorite gig is to arrive on Sunday, stay the night in the alley, and return to the USA on Monday. It’s empty. And I just don’t see Americans. Or at least not more that one or two. I don’t expect to see a lot of girls this early but there should be more people walking around. Clearly the economy has been hit hard down here like everywhere else.

The next piece of bad news, I don’t see Miss Cariñoso, my number two favorite must see woman. Damn it! She is the sweetest most affection street girl I know. I hope she isn’t gone as well. She works out of Hotel Mini in front of La Capirucha Bar. Wow, this will be a disappointing trip if I missed both of my favorites.

I walk down to Hotel Las Cascadas, climb the stairs, and inquire about a room, but it’s a little too early. They tell me to come back in about an hour. I exit an then inspect the new entrance to Las Chavelas where Miami Bar used to be. Nice. I continue down to the tortilleria and head towards Hotel Venecia, where I used to know several girls. I see an older woman I know and greet her. We’ve gone to Bar La Gloria and danced a few times for the fun of it. I did bring her back to my room once after too many beers. I finger fucked her to a juicy orgasm. Then she blew me. I don’t know if I’d let that happen again or not. But I’m a big fan of “go with the flow” while in TJ and see what happens. I step down into Hotel Venecia and stick my head in the oficina, but it’s some new person I don’t recognize so I say hello and leave promptly.

So, it’s time for plan B. I decide to get a room at another hotel in the Alley rather than wait for Cascadas. I head down to Hotel Mini. The manager I expected to see isn’t there anymore. Another woman that I recognize is now the manager. We greet each other and I get a room for two nights. I won’t stay the second night, but at least I can take my time leaving on Monday without worrying about an early checkout time. I get settled in my room and ask the housekeeper for a couple of extra towels, tipping her $1 when she returns with two more.

I head out to the street, and my darling, Miss Perfect, is standing at her post! And…she has her back turned towards me. This is great, we’ve had a running joke since about 2003 where I am always trying to sneak up to her, and stand right next to her without her noticing. Somehow, she always manages to turn just as I am getting close to her, but this time she doesn’t! I’ve finally done it! She turns and looks in disbelief! “Mike!” I take her hand. “Are you okay!” She asks. I am so happy to see her again, she’s as beautiful as ever. “What happened? Where have you been? I thought I saw you so many times, but it is never you!” She complains. I kiss her on the cheek and explain my situation to her. After a few minutes, I tell her I have to go to the bank but will return shortly.

I walk a couple blocks over to the ATM, again, noticing very few Americans along the way. I stop at the farmacia and get some condoms. And return to have Miss Perfect take my arm and walk down the block to Hotel Mini. We turn in and I nearly run into —Miss Cariñoso! I stop and greet her. Hooray! They’re both here! I’m so happy.

By the way, they know each other of course, because I introduced them. I don’t bullshit any of the girls, I don’t allow exclusivity, or jealousy, or lies. I’m completely open with them. If I see one while I’m with another, I stop and introduce them. Whoever I’m with gets introduced as my novia and the other girl as my amiga. This has worked well for me and I don’t have to sneak around or avoid anyone or lie to anyone. This was a necessity once I became familiar to more than a couple of street girls.

Anyhow, in the room with Miss Perfect I am thrilled and happy. We catch up with each other’s lives and have a long slow session. I pay her and walk her back and we agree to meet again tomorrow morning.

To be continued…

John Rain
10-18-10, 04:38
Part Two: Late Sunday Afternoon and Evening
Having finished with Miss Perfect, I return to my room and shower. Then I walk back down to the far end of the alley and see another girl I recognize, but I can’t remember her name. She greets me and reminds me of her name. I never slept with her but I used to like chatting with her and sometimes bought her a coffee on cold mornings or evenings. She’s always been pleasant and besides she has big tits. Off to the side there’s another girl I know that I know her, but for some reason I can’t place her --something is really different about her. I ask Miss BigTits and she reminds me of the girl’s name.

Holy shit! It’s Miss Enojado (angry). But now she’s a gordita. Damn she gained weight. She used to be slender and fine. I confirm with Miss BigTits and she agrees: muy gorda. She was one of the girls involved in this controversy Deep Shit. (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=493559&postcount=115) and has been pissed at me for four years. I back off and head up the block the other way.

As I pass by Bar La Capirucha a young brunette is standing out front. She’s just average in looks but grabs my hand and I decide to see what happens. It takes all of 45 seconds for her to start kissing me and giving me the full bar girl treatment. I’m muy guapo, my eyes, my hair, my hands, everything is the best she has ever seen. I order an agua mineral and a beer for her. We kiss, we fondle, we dance. Another beer for her. She talks me into a Pacifico Light for myself. It tastes like shit. Pacifico is good but this is my first Pacifico Light and it sucks. For the record, my Mexican favorites are Negra Modelo and Bohemia. Again we kiss and fondle and dance. She asks if I will take her to the room and I agree. The salida is $20 plus $40 for her. I agree and we quickly turn the corner into Hotel Mini.

In the room, she removes her clothes and I realize that I’ve been had. It’s the old double spandex in the bar, double fat in the room. Her tummy and hips and ass unfold from nowhere. Shit. I’m laughing at her and calling her gorda, gorda, gorda. I tell her to give me a blow job, but I really have lost interest…and Mr. Happy is sleeping. Eventually, I call off the whole thing and walk her back to her bar. Damn! I messed up with that one! Oh well, time for the next adventure.

I reckon I’ll head up the hill and see who’s working and maybe stop in at the dive bar El Fracaso to dance some dollar dances with the gorditas there. Near the top of the hill I see Miss ClassicLatina! Great! I grab her hand ask if she wants to dance with me. Sure. We’re off to El Fracaso together. She’s a nice girl, knows no English, full figured, but looks like she’s gained a few pounds since I last saw her. She’s quiet and kind of shy but we’ve done this a few times in the past.

Miss ClassicLatina orders a coke and I get an agua mineral. Then dance quite a few songs. And so it goes for about an hour, then it’s time for the vertical dance in my hotel. As we’re walking downing the hill, some of the girls make fun of her because we are holding hands as we walk. She tells them to shut up because they are just jealous. I’m laughing at the whole thing and enjoying every minute of the experience.

In the room, it’s 300 pesos. We have straight missionary sex. Rather reserved but nice enough. She has a pretty face and I tell her as much. She is surprised that I think so. Then in a classic stupid guy move I tell her I also like her big tits. (They are nice, amazingly firm.) She laughs real hard and says, “So, you like my pretty face and my big tits! Thank you!” Well, my intentions were good anyway. We finish up and I walk her all the way back up the hill hand-in-hand again. This time nobody makes fun of her. I kiss her on the cheek and say goodbye.

At this point, after showering again, I wander down the alley and see an older gal in front of Chavelas that catches my eye. She’s a slender brunette, maybe 30. We talk a bit and I like her. She promises a great blow job and no cheating, guaranteed satisfaction. (There are very few men walking around. Again, I’m really surprised at how slow it is.) I make swear that she will be great. She does and we head into Cascadas. Our deal is a blow job for 200 pesos. She briefly tries to up sell sin ropa for more money but I’m not interested. She does the deed. I pop. We’re all happy. I like her, she is a possibility for future sessions.

Next I settle into Las Chavelas as reported here: First Chavelas Report (http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1081252&postcount=2)

Afterward, I return to Mini to sleep the night. It’s not a good place to spend the night. It’s very loud. I toss and turn. So, I decide to get a girl to ease my discomfort.

There’s a girl in front of Mini that looks okay. I negotiate a BJ for 200 pesos. But in the room I’m not focused on the issue at hand and things aren’t culminating as they should. I’m tired. I had several beers at Chavelas. It ain’t working. So the gal starts to ask me if I want more time. She offers more time for 200 pesos more. I tell her that she should not charge me anything more because, “Soy tu fantasía.” “¿Que?” She responds, shocked. I explain that really I am her fantasy--an American man, so handsome and kind. Truly, she is lucky for me to allow her to suck me. This is really her fantasy not mine. She is laughing and I keep explaining her fantasía to her. Then I tell her she should spend the night for free to fulfill her secret fantasía. She says it is 300 dollars for the whole night and I laugh real hard. I tell her any girl here is available for 100 dollars for the whole night. Eventually she agrees to $100 but then explains she has to leave at 3 am to return to her home. I decline and we end our encounter on good terms. I walk her out whispering in her ear the whole time, “Soy tu fantasía, soy tu fantasía.” These girls are such fun to play with.

To be continued…

John Rain
10-18-10, 05:28
Part Three: Monday
There was some kind of incident out front in the Alley that involved an angry woman screaming like she was mad, there were police sirens. Eventually, I got up and showered at 7:30 am. This morning would be very special. This would be my time with Miss Cariñoso, my number two favorite must see woman. She works days here and sure enough is already standing out front. I take her hand and kiss her on the cheek. It’s been so long. Let’s go. Miss Cariñoso is very different than Miss Perfect. Miss Cariñoso is soft and curvy. Very pale skin. Wide eyes and face, thick lips. So delicious. I’ve known her since 2004.

I sit on the bed with her standing and just hold her against me for about five minutes enjoying her fresh clean scent. We take off our clothes and repeat the same. I stand and kiss her mouth and shoulders and breasts. She is softly petting me everywhere. She is the most gentle, affectionate street girl I have ever been with. This is how the session goes for almost two hours. Slow and sensuous. Always touching and stroking and kissing. I love time with her so much.

Afterward, I give her money folded up. She puts it in her purse without looking at it. We haven’t discussed this issue since our first year together.

She leaves, I shower and head to McDonalds for some breakfast. Miss Perfect is nowhere to be found so I walk around a bit and head down towards Hotel Venecia to see who is there. Sure enough, Miss Enojado (angry) is standing there. Well, there is no avoiding it and I may as well test the waters with her. I say good morning and she says the same. I ask her if she is still angry with me. She answers, “No, no mas.” I tell her thank you. (I guess four years of dagger eyes is enough.) I am relieved and we catch up on our personal situations. It has been difficult for her. She says American don’t come here like before. It’s hard to make a living. I ask if she would come to Hotel Mini with me. She says she would like that. Most of her friends and co-workers from the old days (a few years ago) are gone now. At the room, we have 45 minutes together for 500 pesos.

Next, still waiting for Miss Perfect to appear, I settle into Las Chavelas as reported here: Second Chavelas Report (http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1081456&postcount=5)

Eventually, Miss Perfect shows up, but I am exhausted. I bring her to my room and we talk for 90 minutes while I inspect every inch of her body and rich dark skin. She gives me a massage. I’m too tired for sex. We talk about my adventures and laugh together about everything. She is a true courtesan and friend. I am emotional when it is time for us to part, unsure of when I will see her again. I walk her back, return, and pack my stuff. It’s late. I need to go home. Leaving the hotel I pass by her giving her hand a squeeze and her cheek a kiss. I hike up the hill to catch a cab.

The damn line takes 2 hours and 20 minutes. I arrive home after 8 pm exhausted. But filled with a fine set of memories of my adventures in TJ.

Be Safe. The END.

Dornyone
10-18-10, 06:34
[b][u]These girls are such fun to play with.

To be continued…

Hats off to you buddy, pretty much the most entertaining string of reports I've read in years. I'm assuming your Spanish is stellar and that Ingles is your first language (I've noted no spelling errors and you don't constantly repeat the same adjectives). These offenses will get you your own forum of course, (a la one wing low) but your memory for chicas and events/offenses is hilarious.
It pretty much sums up what I've suspected for a few years, to get a full taste of TJ and la zona one needs to dedicate a couple of nights. I hesitate to ask but will anyway, how old are you?
In any event, good job and if our paths cross I will buy you a few mineral waters (or beers) :)

Joe Arturo
10-18-10, 17:40
Yeah, the zona has been around as long as San Diego has been a Navy town.

And didn't they have a scene in Seabiscuit where they came down to TJ to race. Remember? That would have been during WWII.

But as Jim says, I know I have been in the zona since the late 80's, and know it was well developed back then.

And I know a WWII veteran who spoke of it fondly with me before he died a few years ago. No condom sex back in the day, he said!

SS

In the movie Sea Biscuit, the Molino Rojo sign that is across the street from Chicago Club is prominently displayed!

Super Gato
10-19-10, 00:29
In the movie Sea Biscuit, the Molino Rojo sign that is across the street from Chicago Club is prominently displayed!

The LA Times had an article about the golden age of Tijuana during prohibition when Molino Rojo and Agua Caliente were big casinos and TJ was where SoCal went before Vegas. It is interesting to wonder what it would be like today had that continued.

http://www.latimes.com/travel/la-trw-before-las-vegas-tijuana-was-escape12sep07,0,3522028.story?page=1

According to the article, the neon sign across from Chicago isn't from the original casino though.

A few years ago I found a bunch of photos of Old TJ and the border. I'll have to find those sites again.

John Rain
10-19-10, 15:11
Hats off to you buddy, pretty much the most entertaining string of reports I've read in years. I'm assuming your Spanish is stellar and that Ingles is your first language… I hesitate to ask but will anyway, how old are you? …In any event, good job and if our paths cross I will buy you a few mineral waters (or beers) :)
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed my ramblings. I can't converse in Spanish, but make due with some basic vocabulary--together with a friendly attitude and a smile and I find that I can usually get by okay.

I'm in my early 50's and find these women delightful to know and to be with.

I'll likely make another trip at the end of November.

Oh Ya Papi
10-26-10, 03:13
hey guys i travel ALOT and i was at the post office today. well a passport card is 55 bucks. would this be worth it if i go to tj or if i loose my original passport. can i just take my passport card to tj and not my passport. i have a trip to central america this winter, do not wanna loose my passport, never have lost my passport in the multiple trips to 35 countries but is the price and use of a passport card a good value/thingwhat do you guys think? thanks

Phordphan
10-26-10, 06:35
hey guys i travel ALOT and i was at the post office today. well a passport card is 55 bucks. would this be worth it if i go to tj or if i loose my original passport. can i just take my passport card to tj and not my passport. i have a trip to central america this winter, do not wanna loose my passport, never have lost my passport in the multiple trips to 35 countries but is the price and use of a passport card a good value/thingwhat do you guys think? thanks

It's much easier to carry than the regular passport.

It's only good in MX, CA and some Carribean nations.

I keep mine handy and my passport in a safe place for travel outside of MX.

Party God
10-26-10, 13:42
It's much easier to carry than the regular passport.

It's only good in MX, CA and some Carribean nations.

I keep mine handy and my passport in a safe place for travel outside of MX.
It's not good for air travel.

Piedras649
10-26-10, 13:52
hey guys i travel ALOT and i was at the post office today. well a passport card is 55 bucks. would this be worth it if i go to tj or if i loose my original passport. can i just take my passport card to tj and not my passport. i have a trip to central america this winter, do not wanna loose my passport, never have lost my passport in the multiple trips to 35 countries but is the price and use of a passport card a good value/thingwhat do you guys think? thanks


They are really cool to have. Get one if you have the money to spend.

Artisttyp
10-26-10, 21:39
I orginally had planned to be in mexico for 23 days but I had to drop it down to 10. Unfortunately some personal issues came up.

This was not just a mongering trip for me. I was here in june trying to organize a photography exposition with my TJ photos. This time I closed the deal with the cultural center. Twenty of my photos and 4 of my tshirt designs will be displayed at a high school as part of a cultural program that the cultural center offers. Afterwards they will be displayed in the IMAC/SECUD building next to el arco. I received a certificate of "reconocimiento" which was a very nice surprise...done.

The big surprise however was that I banged a civie on my birthday! This was already in the making from my previous trips down here. Lets just say she was very close to home.

Mongering:

There really isnt a lot to say. All I did were street girls and I cant remember one touching my dick. These sgs here are the laziest most germophobic hoes I have ever seen. IMHO mexican attitude towards sex is rather bland in general. Women dress sexy but when it comes to the bedroom they are rather lame compared to south america or even central america. Men arent as dominant in mexico(in the bedroom) towards women as in south america IMHO.

I will say though that mon - wed are IMHO the best days for pure mongering in la zona. If you go to the zona around 9pm on these days chances are you will find some very desperate women. Last night was a prime example. I hardly had to negotiate a butt and pussy licking for $20 plus $5 for the room. She was the one that quoted me that super low price. Thursdays are ok but that is when thing start to pick up. Any day is a good day for HK club. You will always see people in there. The other bars are dead. If you arent a drinker then the zona will get very boring for you once you had a few sessions.

* The sessions were more like glorified whack off sessions more than anything else. I also felt rather pressured on time. It is better to go into a sessions with a hard on and a desire to pop rather quickly.

The other bar I liked was rio grande a few doors down from el arco on that main street where the zona starts. It is catty corner to hotel santa cecilla which is across the street from the hotel nelson. I hope this makes sense.

Hotels:

I did have a chance to visit a few hotels when I was here. This is what I found:

Hotel Aqua Rio
Av. constitution no. 1306 entre 9 y 10
tel 664-685-1912

This is located next door to the swap meet about 1 1/2 blocks from hotel ticuan. Rooms run around $30 even on weekends (some hotels charge more on those days). Ive read on another forum that guests are allowed but I did not verify it. I usually dont ask those questions when I first introduce myself to a new hotel.
I really like this place. The rooms are rather small but very clean and very plush for a $30. IMHO these were the nicest $30 rooms in TJ that I have seen.

The area is pretty mellow and you are rather central. Some people might feel a little uncomfortable walking the 1 1/2 blocks from the ticuan.

Las pulgas is right there as well as sonriana supermarket. Credit cards are accepted and there are safety deposit boxes at the front desk.

Hotel Central:

Calle 7 madero y negrete 8381
tel 011 52 664 688 2639 mex 664 685 8653

This hotel is right around the corner from ricardos sandwhich shop and the hotel la villa de zaragoza. A single room will run you a whopping $20.There is a xoxo(7 11) directly across the street. The rooms are rather basic but large with new wooden floors. There is no heat but they do offer a fan in the summer. Noise would not be too much of an issue here. Some rooms have windows and some dont. There is a sign saying no visitors. The advantage to staying here would be location. You would bascially have whatever the hotel zaragoza offers minus access to the hotel. I am not sure about parking.

Someone mentioned this hotel received so so reviews. If anyone can add to it Id like to know.

Hotel San Nicolas :

Av Madero between calle 1 y 2 no.768
tel 011 52 664 688 04 18

This is a family owned hotel on ave madero 2 blocks from el arco. The rooms face inside the building so I dont think noise would be an issue. The rooms run around $30 and are typical TJ dank looking. The owner seemed rather nice and even offered to keep medicine for me in his fridge at the front desk. There is a sign saying no visitors after 7pm.

The dank look grossed me out. It might be an option for other people.

Motel Arragon:

Ave Negrete 1671
tel 685 26 88

This hotel is one block below ave madero....3 blocks from revo. It is in a rather isolated area but there is a xoxo directly across the street. There are a total of 72 rooms some without tvs and some with heat! The manager said guests were allowed with ID. If you stay for a week the room will run $27 if not expect to pay around $30. Rooms are large with fans but pretty basic. If you have a car this might be worth a stay. The famous JUNIORS TACOS is in walking distance.


Food :

Before coming down I wrote down a few restaurants but never made it to them. I did however find a new place in the plaza rio to the right of commercial mexicana. The place is called " super antojitos". Apparently they have another one on calle 3 and ninos heroes. The place is tiny but some plates might compare to high end mexican restaurants at lower prices. I highly recommend you try this place at least once.

Another place I enjoyed was " El Museo" the new place across the street from the hotel nelson. They are owned by the same people. They offer more of an international menu but very few choices. I ate there last night...sat at an outdoor table right on revolucion. The food was excellent. Soup plate desert drink and tip came out to $17. Having a quiet moment on revolucion all to myself was very pleasant.


* I tried a few tacos varios stands and I was pleasantly surprised. My favorites were the one across the street from bar zacozanopan and the taco joint next to mac donalds where all the gay bars are (el arco). Thank you isg member "bobisee" for convincing me to try them. I did not get sick once.

I kept busy shopping for my ebay store and enjoying the atmosphere. The sex was lame but I had a great time just hanging out and being around fun people. Tomorrow I cross back to chula vista for a night then its off to my cell in NYC.

The border is fascinating me. I would really like to investigate the texas border towns. I might just do that on my next trip. I realize that I need a lot more available to me than just mongering. My trips to tijuana verify that.

Nice meeting joe arturo from the mexicali forum. Eventually I will get there. Too bad it wasnt this time around.

As always tom jackin was a lot of fun to hang out with. He had a girl sit on his face right in the booth at HK. You are my hero!

There were a lot of police out. Things felt rather safe.

END

PS. I forgot to mention I banged a SG with a beard on her lower back. Ive never seen that in my life. When I asked her why she didnt wax it I got the typical " I dont know " SG response.

Beware of Sgs putting crap on their conchas before DATY. It might just ruin your day.

Oh Ya Papi
10-27-10, 04:36
ived stayed at tucan awesome 50 bucks free wifi and brakfats friut cookies coffee. Does this hotel aqua rio have free wifi or is in location of unsecuered wifi.? plz i skype my friends phone call and want to update my website. thanks for the info!!!!!!



I orginally had planned to be in mexico for 23 days but I had to drop? it down to 10. Unfortunately some personal issues came up.

This was not just a mongering trip for me. I was here in june trying to organize a photography exposition with my TJ photos. This time I closed the deal with the cultural center. Twenty of my photos and 4 of my tshirt designs will be displayed at a high school as part of a cultural program that the cultural center offers. Afterwards they will be displayed in the IMAC/SECUD building next to el arco. I received a certificate of "reconocimiento" which was a very nice surprise...done.

The big surprise however was that I banged a civie on my birthday! This was already in the making from my previous trips down here. Lets just say she was very close to home.

Mongering:

There really isnt a lot to say. All I did were street girls and I cant remember one touching my dick. These sgs here are the laziest most germophobic hoes I have ever seen. IMHO mexican attitude towards sex is rather bland in general. Women dress sexy but when it comes to the bedroom they are rather lame compared to south america or even central america. Men arent as dominant in mexico(in the bedroom) towards women as in south america IMHO.

I will say though that mon - wed are IMHO the best days for pure mongering in la zona. If you go to the zona around 9pm on these days chances are you will find some very desperate women. Last night was a prime example. I hardly had to negotiate a butt and pussy licking for $20 plus $5 for the room. She was the one that quoted me that super low price. Thursdays are ok but that is when thing start to pick up. Any day is a good day for HK club. You will always see people in there. The other bars are dead. If you arent a drinker then the zona will get very boring for you once you had a few sessions.

* The sessions were more like glorified whack off sessions more than anything else. I also felt rather pressured on time. It is better to go into a sessions with a hard on and a desire to pop rather quickly.

The other bar I liked was rio grande a few doors down from el arco on that main street where the zona starts. It is catty corner to hotel santa cecilla which is across the street from the hotel nelson. I hope this makes sense.

Hotels:

I did have a chance to visit a few hotels when I was here. This is what I found:

Hotel Aqua Rio
Av. constitution no. 1306 entre 9 y 10
tel 664-685-1912

This is located next door to the swap meet about 1 1/2 blocks from hotel ticuan. Rooms run around $30 even on weekends (some hotels charge more on those days). Ive read on another forum that guests are allowed but I did not verify it. I usually dont ask those questions when I first introduce myself to a new hotel.
I really like this place. The rooms are rather small but very clean and very plush for a $30. IMHO these were the nicest $30 rooms in TJ that I have seen.

The area is pretty mellow and you are rather central. Some people might feel a little uncomfortable walking the 1 1/2 blocks from the ticuan.

Las pulgas is right there as well as sonriana supermarket. Credit cards are accepted and there are safety deposit boxes at the front desk.

Hotel Central:

Calle 7 madero y negrete 8381
tel 011 52 664 688 2639 mex 664 685 8653

This hotel is right around the corner from ricardos sandwhich shop and the hotel la villa de zaragoza. A single room will run you a whopping $20.There is a xoxo(7 11) directly across the street. The rooms are rather basic but large with new wooden floors. There is no heat but they do offer a fan in the summer. Noise would not be too much of an issue here. Some rooms have windows and some dont. There is a sign saying no visitors. The advantage to staying here would be location. You would bascially have whatever the hotel zaragoza offers minus access to the hotel. I am not sure about parking.

Someone mentioned this hotel received so so reviews. If anyone can add to it Id like to know.

Hotel San Nicolas :

Av Madero between calle 1 y 2 no.768
tel 011 52 664 688 04 18

This is a family owned hotel on ave madero 2 blocks from el arco. The rooms face inside the building so I dont think noise would be an issue. The rooms run around $30 and are typical TJ dank looking. The owner seemed rather nice and even offered to keep medicine for me in his fridge at the front desk. There is a sign saying no visitors after 7pm.

The dank look grossed me out. It might be an option for other people.

Motel Arragon:

Ave Negrete 1671
tel 685 26 88

This hotel is one block below ave madero....3 blocks from revo. It is in a rather isolated area but there is a xoxo directly across the street. There are a total of 72 rooms some without tvs and some with heat! The manager said guests were allowed with ID. If you stay for a week the room will run $27 if not expect to pay around $30. Rooms are large with fans but pretty basic. If you have a car this might be worth a stay. The famous JUNIORS TACOS is in walking distance.


Food :

Before coming down I wrote down a few restaurants but never made it to them. I did however find a new place in the plaza rio to the right of commercial mexicana. The place is called " super antojitos". Apparently they have another one on calle 3 and ninos heroes. The place is tiny but some plates might compare to high end mexican restaurants at lower prices. I highly recommend you try this place at least once.

Another place I enjoyed was " El Museo" the new place across the street from the hotel nelson. They are owned by the same people. They offer more of an international menu but very few choices. I ate there last night...sat at an outdoor table right on revolucion. The food was excellent. Soup plate desert drink and tip came out to $17. Having a quiet moment on revolucion all to myself was very pleasant.


* I tried a few tacos varios stands and I was pleasantly surprised. My favorites were the one across the street from bar zacozanopan and the taco joint next to mac donalds where all the gay bars are (el arco). Thank you isg member "bobisee" for convincing me to try them. I did not get sick once.

I kept busy shopping for my ebay store and enjoying the atmosphere. The sex was lame but I had a great time just hanging out and being around fun people. Tomorrow I cross back to chula vista for a night then its off to my cell in NYC.

The border is fascinating me. I would really like to investigate the texas border towns. I might just do that on my next trip. I realize that I need a lot more available to me than just mongering. My trips to tijuana verify that.

Nice meeting joe arturo from the mexicali forum. Eventually I will get there. Too bad it wasnt this time around.

As always tom jackin was a lot of fun to hang out with. He had a girl sit on his face right in the booth at HK. You are my hero!

There were a lot of police out. Things felt rather safe.

END

PS. I forgot to mention I banged a SG with a beard on her lower back. Ive never seen that in my life. When I asked her why she didnt wax it I got the typical " I dont know " SG response.

Beware of Sgs putting crap on their conchas before DATY. It might just ruin your day.

Artisttyp
10-27-10, 05:06
ived stayed at tucan awesome 50 bucks free wifi and brakfats friut cookies coffee. Does this hotel aqua rio have free wifi or is in location of unsecuered wifi.? plz i skype my friends phone call and want to update my website. thanks for the info!!!!!!


I never inquired about internet because I have an unlimited data plan on my blackberry.

By the way the bar I mentioned rio grande is actually *rio verde

TomJackin
10-30-10, 07:51
Headed into TJ this early afternoon, with a quick stop in San Ysidro for pesos, which was at 12.1050 exchange rate.

Hong Kong: I'm really addicted to this place and can spend hours on end hanging out, drinking, and playing with the chicas. Love the afternoons and early evenings before the sausage fest starts. No re-entry stamp as of yet, and my buddies at the customer service desk were MIA the entire day, so not sure when the new stamp thing will happen.

Had a new experience today at HK. I like to sit in the "loft", or at least that is what I call it. It is one of the two booths that sit above the hot tub and you really have a chance to check the whole place out at the same time. Two of the cuties finished the lez show and were in the hot tub and were looking up and flirting with their tongues and such. So when they finished, I had them come by for a drink. There is something about naked women in half-ass towels that makes me a happy camper. I asked them if they liked tequila, and they both had silly grins. I brought over the tequila guy (who should start claiming as a dependent on my taxes), and the fun started. He started pouring tequila on their tits, which I had the responsibility of licking clean. But it went further than that. The towels were open and the tequila guy motioned to their happy spots. So, he poured tequila just above the snatch and I licked it up like a wild dog. Licking tequila off a clit was a new high for me and both girls provided me with a wonderful memory, which I'm sure I will share with my grandchildren some day.

Last Friday I had the pleasure of spending time with Artisttyp, a true monger in every sense. I previously knew he was a "ass master," but did not know of his other talent. I learned about his other talent he had when he broke out the moves on the dance floor at Tropical. Always a pleasure my friend!

So, my question to others on the ISG board: Is there another club anywhere in the world like HK??? Granted, I have not been to Europe or Antarctica, so I cannot compare any place there. There are a couple I can think of, but some are closed.

Tom Popo's in Yokosuka Japan (closed)
Jolo's in PI (closed)
Marylyn's in Subic City (closed)
Banana Club in Okinawa - not near the quality
X-Zone in Pattaya Beach - closest I can get to HK
Help Disco in Brazil (closed)

Help me out here so I can book my next flight!

Street Girls: The SG's were abundant tonight, more than I usually saw in the past. And there were a good amount of hotties as well. It appears it is a buyers (or renters) market!

Chicago Club: Went there about 9, and it was quite dead; a few hotties in the crowd.

Las Chavelas: Loud music with a bunch of chunky chicas; enough said.

Adelita's: I stop in this place every week for a drink. I believe this place has some of the hottest women I have ever seen on display. I would say that compared to HK, the women at Adelita's are hotter. However, I also believe the women at HK are more playful and I do enjoy touching them so much!

Please chime in if I'm right or completely off course.

Blourghus
10-30-10, 09:58
so, my question to others on the isg board: is there another club anywhere in the world like hk??? granted, i have not been to europe or antarctica, so i cannot compare any place there. there are a couple i can think of, but some are closed.

tom popo's in yokosuka japan (closed)
jolo's in pi (closed)
marylyn's in subic city (closed)
banana club in okinawa - not near the quality
x-zone in pattaya beach - closest i can get to hk
help disco in brazil (closed)


as measured by raw quantity of ladies available for st, there are internationally many, many examples of clubs with a lot more ladies than hk under a single roof such as in bangkok (rainbow 4, tilac, baccara) or in germany (fkk oase, fkk palace), and many, many others. if you count the dollhouse/atlantis/crystal palace megaplex in angeles city philippines as one club it is about quintuple the size of hk, if not then three more examples of clubs bigger than hk and that is just one complex there out of many in that city. i can't think of a club in south america which is comparable in size to these (probably angelu's in caracas? though i haven't been there in years and i'm not sure if it's open) although in south america there are several examples of clubs which specialize in hotties and where the ugliest lady is several points better looking than the hottest lady who has ever stepped inside hk (examples: lalo's or la mansion in bogota) - south america is more about quality than quantity.

for shows (not really my specialty - actually watching these shows when you are alone screams "creepy old guy" to me), walking street on pattaya is probably the world capital of glitzy shows - lesbian shows, soapie shows, and everything else, all set up like art. for the more tasteless shows (such as on stage m/f intercouse), not sure how common that is in hk but it can be seen in lower end seedy areas around the planet (none really that notable), not that rare really.

the one unique thing in hk which i have not seen duplicated elsewhere (and not sure that i want it to be) is paying the lady $1 for a short grope. in other very low end bars in mexico (such as infinito in monterey) you can also grope the ladies although you don't have to pay. this service is the bread & butter of what hk is all about, but it is for younger, desperate, low class mexicans who can't afford full service sessions, and shouldn't be relevant to guys interested in full service. probably the closest international analog would be peep show booths available in seedy areas anywhere.

SuperSteve
10-30-10, 14:40
First, I am very happy to live close enough to get to TJ often.

I enjoy HK during the day since it is not yet a sausage fest. At night, it usually seems to hot & crowded for this old fart.

While not like HK some other clubs that I enjoy;

Medellin - Fase Dos has IMO the hottest looking women in a club that I have seen. It seems like they have a meter at the door that won't allow 7's, or below, in. The Centro clubs have some very hot women also, but a step down for Fase Dos. They will have FS shows on the stage (not really my thing to see though). My favorite is the hotel that I stay at. They let in 7-15 ladies that will sit round the pool, all sitting within 5 feet of my room, and party until you are ready to give them a private English lesson. The Mayorista street scene is something to see. Less than 30 days and I will be there again.

Angeles City - Whole streets of clubs and women. What's not to like about a $10.00 BJ at 7 AM on Santos St. (aka Blow Row)? Everything from old pro's to those fresh from the provinces.

San Jose, Costa Rica - Hotel Del Rey has no shows but on any given night a hundred, or so, ladies waiting for a date. Key Largo, across the street from the HDR where you can go to dance, which Latin women seem to love. My personal favorite strip club Le Grillion. Mostly Nica's (very hot and passionate) and FS for about $30.00. The Sportmen's Lodge (hotel) which will have 15-30 ladies, and some great parties on holiday nights. Hotel Little Havana (Zona Blue) has calmed down some, but a couple of years ago when Pamela was in her prime it was quite a party.

I haven't been to TJ for about three weeks now and am going through withdrawals. I will be making another journey south of the border prior to my MDE run for Thanksgiving.

Health & happiness to all............

John Rain
10-30-10, 15:30
the one unique thing in hk which i have not seen duplicated elsewhere (and not sure that i want it to be) is paying the lady $1 for a short grope. … this service is the bread & butter of what hk is all about, but it is for younger, desperate, low class mexicans who can't afford full service sessions, and shouldn't be relevant to guys interested in full service. probably the closest international analog would be peep show booths available in seedy areas anywhere.
that's a rather harsh assessment, don't you think? and i don't think their target customer is "low class mexicans."

it is a candy store for any american otherwise stuck with american strip clubs. i don't know anything about the international scene (i'm just a low class american and can't afford international travel.) but from what i see, it's a feast for the eyes, hands, and offers fs as well.

i've had a lot of great times there. i think of the time i brought a quiet, conservative street girl into hong kong bar with me: monger + street girl + hong kong bar (internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=462175&postcount=27)

also, it's the only place in tj that i ever got a free sex session: my sweet freebie (http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=566166&postcount=95)

to each his own, right?

Artisttyp
10-30-10, 15:48
I am extremely jealous of you guys that live next to TJ. The service can be hit or miss but at least you can blow off some steam. It does wonders for your mental health.

If I lived close to TJ I would not be doing as many over seas trips as I do. Sometimes when I take a mongering trip I realize all I needed was to bust a nut and it wasn't worth the airfare and hotel cost just to do it.

If I lived close to TJ I would spend $60 on a session in a heart beat. I'd even buy girls ficha drinks.

I am back in nyc only 1 day now and I already miss those beautiful socal mornings.

Buy a bike and ride it around imperial beach at sunset...lucky you!

TomJackin
10-30-10, 20:19
First, I am very happy to live close enough to get to TJ often.

I enjoy HK during the day since it is not yet a sausage fest. At night, it usually seems to hot & crowded for this old fart.

While not like HK some other clubs that I enjoy;

Medellin - Fase Dos has IMO the hottest looking women in a club that I have seen. It seems like they have a meter at the door that won't allow 7's, or below, in. The Centro clubs have some very hot women also, but a step down for Fase Dos. They will have FS shows on the stage (not really my thing to see though). My favorite is the hotel that I stay at. They let in 7-15 ladies that will sit round the pool, all sitting within 5 feet of my room, and party until you are ready to give them a private English lesson. The Mayorista street scene is something to see. Less than 30 days and I will be there again.

Angeles City - Whole streets of clubs and women. What's not to like about a $10.00 BJ at 7 AM on Santos St. (aka Blow Row)? Everything from old pro's to those fresh from the provinces.

San Jose, Costa Rica - Hotel Del Rey has no shows but on any given night a hundred, or so, ladies waiting for a date. Key Largo, across the street from the HDR where you can go to dance, which Latin women seem to love. My personal favorite strip club Le Grillion. Mostly Nica's (very hot and passionate) and FS for about $30.00. The Sportmen's Lodge (hotel) which will have 15-30 ladies, and some great parties on holiday nights. Hotel Little Havana (Zona Blue) has calmed down some, but a couple of years ago when Pamela was in her prime it was quite a party.

I haven't been to TJ for about three weeks now and am going through withdrawals. I will be making another journey south of the border prior to my MDE run for Thanksgiving.
Medellin: Have to agree with you Steve, this place has some of the hottest women in the world. Got to Fase Dos at closing time, but we were told most of the girls were headed to La Napa. This is one of the clubs I forgot to mention. One of the guys from the hotel brought me there. He explained to me that the place was an "underground" club that is only open from 4 to 6 in the morning. The girls came to the stage in twos and within 2 songs, they were completely naked. After their dance, they walked around for tips, and this was the point when you could touch and feel the goodies; which I did! I did not get a chance to stay at the hotel you were at, or visit the casas, or hang out on Mayorista street; I will have to go back to experience more.

San Jose, Costa Rica: The Hotel Del Rey scene did not appeal to me, but there were some beautiful women in the place, and many were quite aggressive. I stayed at the Sportsmen Lodge and really like the scene, hotel, and staff. I went to Key Largo with two of the gals I met at the SL; fun place. I did not get a chance to go to the strip clubs, I wanted to, but did not want to venture out alone. Once again, I think I will return to explore more.

Angeles City: I went there several times before the volcano destroyed Clark Air Base. Started going to Olongapo with the navy in 1977 and my last trip there was when we closed Subic Bay and evacuated both bases. Also, stationed there for 2 years (liver still hurts). So I agree with your thoughts on the place. Nowadays, I visit Bangkok and Pattaya yearly to get my Asian GFE fix.

Because I have always been married and got robbed by the cops three times while driving in Mexico, I did not discover the Zona Norte until this past April. I can thank Xxnegrito (retired monger) and Onewinglow for my first trip to the Zona. And the fucking place is 20 minutes away from where I live!!!

Poucolouco
10-30-10, 20:34
Yeah, the zona has been around as long as San Diego has been a Navy town.


Here is the link you were looking for:

www.cariocahotel.com.br/

Here it is on Google maps:

http://maps.google.com.br/maps/place?hl=pt-BR&biw=946&bih=550&rlz=1R2GGLJ_esBR363&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=carioca+hotel+rio+de+janeiro&fb=1&gl=br&hq=carioca+hotel+rio+de+janeiro&hnear=Rio+de+Janeiro+-+RJ&cid=7756128467370365365

I'll delete this post after you acknowledge you have seen it.

Party God
10-31-10, 00:53
Hey guys. I'm quite tempted to head to la zona tonight, but don't feel like going alone. Any wingmen up for it? I can drive. Leaving from the LA-OC area. Will probably leaving in the next hour or two. PM me if interested.

TomJackin
11-01-10, 22:11
Got into the Zona around 7pm and was kind of surprised by just how many children were trick-or-treating on the streets, and even in the alley; not quite sure where or whom they were getting the candy from. Either way, the main drag was alive with music and even some dancers on a small platform in front of Las Chavelas. I dressed up as a "Horny Gringo."

Hong Kong: I was told last week that I could bring my camera for the party and take pictures, but when I got there I was told I couldn't; I did anyway. Most of the girls were dressed as usual, because most wear costumes anyway. They had one strange show with two naked women covered in a black substance, and then they poured cream or something white on each other, then some sensual dancing; not really sure how else to describe just what happened on stage. The whole thing left me confused; so I left.

Adelita: Not much going on in there whatsoever; many women, not so many men.

Tropical: The place was packed. Lots of people dancing and some wacky costumes to boot.

The street girls did not seem to be in the Halloween spirit; my favorite girl could care less, she just wanted to go to the room.

The pictures are from the booth follies in HK.

The Third Man
11-01-10, 22:15
You guys should check Adelitas Bar videos.

You might have had your “fifteen minutes of fame” and not know it.

http://adelita.com.mx/blog/

Daytonamonger
11-01-10, 23:02
I am extremely jealous of you guys that live next to TJ. The service can be hit or miss but at least you can blow off some steam. It does wonders for your mental health.

If I lived close to TJ I would not be doing as many over seas trips as I do. Sometimes when I take a mongering trip I realize all I needed was to bust a nut and it wasn't worth the airfare and hotel cost just to do it.

If I lived close to TJ I would spend $60 on a session in a heart beat. I'd even buy girls ficha drinks.

I am back in nyc only 1 day now and I already miss those beautiful socal mornings.

Buy a bike and ride it around imperial beach at sunset...lucky you!

I have to agree. I live entirely too far from the zona to enjoy it on a regular basis. If I'm lucky I get to go every other month or so. I am thinking about moving to Las Vegas so I can enjoy my favorite American City, and have quick and easy access to my favorite Mexican City, only an hour flight away. I'd do an hour fllight before a 7 to 8 hour commute plus ANY day!

Jim0129
11-02-10, 02:28
Hey Steve, I've always wanted to go to Medellin, I'm a Tijuana local and love the sport, besides Tijuana, I've also been to Amsterdam and Prague, but I haven't found someone who can show me the ropes in MDE, I would love to meet you and see if we click and just maybe go to MDE one day!

Let me knwo when you're in town, I'll buy you a beer at HK.


First, I am very happy to live close enough to get to Tijuana often.

I enjoy HK during the day since it is not yet a sausage fest. At night, it usually seems to hot & crowded for this old fart.

While not like HK some other clubs that I enjoy;

Medellin. Fase Dos has IMO the hottest looking women in a club that I have seen. It seems like they have a meter at the door that won't allow 7's, or below, in. The Centro clubs have some very hot women also, but a step down for Fase Dos. They will have FS shows on the stage (not really my thing to see though). My favorite is the hotel that I stay at. They let in 7-15 ladies that will sit round the pool, all sitting within 5 feet of my room, and party until you are ready to give them a private English lesson. The Mayorista street scene is something to C. Less than 30 days and I will be there again.

Angeles City. Whole streets of clubs and women. What's not to like about a $10. 00 BJ at 7 AM on Santos St. (aka Blow Row)? Everything from old pro's to those fresh from the provinces.

San Jose, Costa Rica. Hotel Del Rey has no shows but on any given night a hundred, or so, ladies waiting for a date. Key Largo, across the street from the HDR where you can go to dance, which Latin women seem to love. My personal favorite strip club Le Grillion. Mostly Nica's (very hot and passionate) and FS for about $30. 00. The Sportmen's Lodge (hotel) which will have 15-30 ladies, and some great parties on holiday nights. Hotel Little Havana (Zona Blue) has calmed down some, but a couple of years ago when Pamela was in her prime it was quite a party.

I haven't been to Tijuana for about three weeks now and am going through withdrawals. I will be making another journey south of the border prior to my MDE run for Thanksgiving.

Health & happiness to all.

Bill
11-02-10, 12:08
Bargain basement Bill walkabout.

Found a park with a boxing gym and baseball field for jogging targeting those exercise inclined.
This would be 2 streets north of Coahuilla and Constitution intersection, hang a left and about half a mile down it runs right into it. 50p per week to train m=f 5p=8pm.

Daybreak and decided to wander. Started out with meal at one of my favorites called Lety´s on Ninos Heroes across the street from Dolce Gabanna night club.
This is a small family place with the usual menu, but clean. They are always mopping the floor and wiping the plastic covered tables. Orders come with soup and a drink. 35p for beef stir fried with onions=bistek cebollado, incl. beans, rice, tortillas. If you want to see how they cook first, you can watch them as the grill is adjacent to the sidewalk. Liked the huevos con chorizo as well.

Walked up Ninos heroes to the park across the street from the army installation where the huge mexican flag waves. Headed east and found myself at the intersection where Agua Caliente blvd begins. Heard there was a Marriott somewhere. Found it on the right side after about 2 miles of walking. The neighborhood seems to be upscale, passing the Plaza hotel and a golf course as well.

Decided not to walk back so boarded a green public bus at a stop that cost 8.5p and got off a couple of streets east of the Ticuan hotel and revolution ave. Pay as you exit. This seemed very safe, almost empty with a few schoolgirls and other folks on board about 130pm.

This store called Sanborns on Rev. near the Ticuan is like a Macys and has Cuban and Mexican sticks available. 33p for Te amo´s that are corona sized. CCs accepted, 36p for a decent stainless double guillotine cutter.

Stopped in for a couple of tacos at the 24hr place next to Mcdonalds near the arc. I see why this place is recommended because they are not only tasty, good sized and 10p but you can sit in a well lit large area and not be surrounded by trash, bums, crappy street musicians all while wondering if someone is sizing you up in the dark.

Almost forgot, did a clean, slim tweeker for 150p and a chubby white girl for 200p.

Wish it was this easy to change the oil at home.

Blourghus
11-02-10, 20:25
Angeles City: I went there several times before the volcano destroyed Clark Air Base.

It is a totally different city now, and I doubt you would recognize it. I have been going only since 2004, and the changes from year to year are profound. Even since just last year I almost didn't recognize it. The majority of the ladies are still starving and shipped in from the provinces but there are also more worldly ladies, and the whole thing is way built up, way higher end, and largely catering to well-heeled Japanese and Korean sex tourists.

On YouTube there is a video of the checkpoint area from shortly after the volcano and it is totally unrecognizable to me except for a couple of bars which are still the same.


I would not put Fase II or any Colombia strip club at world class level at least in terms of how they are operated or the overall structure. Most of the strip clubs are raunchy, rowdy, super-crowded, and just unpleasant to be in. Of course the lady quality often makes them tolerable. I find myself now preferring the much more expensive private clubs (e.g. in north Bogota) after paying my dues in the SC's.

Blourghus
11-02-10, 20:55
That's a rather harsh assessment, don't you think? And I don't think their target customer is "low class Mexicans."

It is a candy store for any American otherwise stuck with American strip clubs. I don't know anything about the international scene (I'm just a low class American and can't afford international travel.) But from what I see, it's a feast for the eyes, hands, and offers FS as well.




Why would anybody pay $1 to touch a woman for a few seconds if they could afford to pay $60 for a trip upstairs? To me, the Jose 6Packs who pack in by the stages are clearly there because it's all they can afford. It's great that Hong Kong has opened the flood gates for the masses where you can get with a lady for an investment as low as $1, since they time-slice the ladies affection even further than a 30 minute session or even a 5 minute song, but just for a few seconds. So just a few ladies can service a whole bunch of guys.

It's all about exclusivity. The high-end courtesan gets 2 grand and goes with one customer a night, the mid-range bar girl gets $100 and goes with 5 customers a night, the untouchable street walker goes with 25 guys a day for $20 a pop, but at Hong Kong they blow out the bottom out and a dancer gets fondled by 300 guys @ 1 buck apiece. Most ladies who have the ability to earn more elsewhere working less don't want to get touched by 300 guys (mostly drunk & sweaty with filthy hands) a night, which might explain why most of the ladies who work there are on the lower end of the beauty spectrum compared to elsewhere.

QuackUp
11-04-10, 10:36
It's been a while since I wrote about my travels to Tj.. It isn't because I haven't been going down, but it was because I have been lucky enough to spend much of the time with some favorites.

For the first part of the year it was a favorite from L/c and the second a favorite from H/k. It was fun not spending money on fichas, but rather spending money on movies and dinner with the chicas.

We would always spend one night or two just having fun. Stayed at Hotel Ticuan, Hotel La Masion, and at the Marriott. My favorite being the Marriott even though it was the most expensive. The last time we stayed there, there was construction on the street in front of the hotel which cause delays. Hopefully they are finished now.

Wheather or not we stayed one night or longer, I would pay the chica $1000 mx..

My L/c chica went back home to Sinaloa. My other chica from H/k went home to Mazatlan. Since I got the email for the Halloween contest at H/k, I decided to head on down.

I got down there around 17:30 and left around 22:30. There was absolutely no line at the border at that time. It was way different from the last few times.

I did stop into H/k, T/b, and C/c.. I also ate at the new restaurant across from A/b called the Sonora grill.
The restaurant is nothing bad, nothing spectacular. although I do like to sit while eating unlike the taco stands.

SuperSteve
11-05-10, 16:04
Jim0129, I will be in TJ Saturday arriving about 2 PM and leaving early Sunday morning.

Look for a fat, old, fart probably wearing all black. I will be in HK, Adelita's; Las Chevalas; Tropical; and Chicago Club for sure, and probably try out a couple of the other new local haunts.

Anyone wanting to discuss MDE, or just party, stop and say hello. I also went to Anglese City, PI this year and had a very good time. All out GFE's if that is your thing.

Health & happiness to all.......

Mambomasden
11-06-10, 22:00
I have been riding down to Tecate, BC a couple of weekends now. I know it's small and quiet, but I got to think there is some action to be had, clubs, massage? Anyone in the know? It would be so damn convenient.

Keg
11-07-10, 01:29
Had a nice afternoon session at AB with a day-shift girl, early afternoon. While I was expecting a line at the border crossing, the 2 1/2 hour was a test in patience...good thing I had a relaxing session at AB.

It's been a hot weekend, the only good point about the long line wait was there was a cloud cover that kept the sun from roasting us.

Artisttyp
11-07-10, 03:49
While I was expecting a line at the border crossing, the 2 1/2 hour was a test in patience...good thing I had a relaxing session at AB.



That's been the average wait time lately. I did that 2 weeks ago with a heavy knapsack and 2 pieces of luggage. There were no clouds in the sky that day.

I used to go back and forth twice a day in the early 2000's. These days I wouldn't recommend staying in san diego if you want to monger every day.

The Tall Man
11-07-10, 06:59
That's been the average wait time lately. I did that 2 weeks ago with a heavy knapsack and 2 pieces of luggage. There were no clouds in the sky that day.

I used to go back and forth twice a day in the early 2000's. These days I wouldn't recommend staying in san diego if you want to monger every day.

Last week on Saturday evening the wait at about 7 PM was a good 2 hours. I am thinking it must have been because it was a Holloween weekend????

What is the wait on the return for tomorrow SUNDAY evening at about 8 PM? Anyone have a clue?

Thanks,

The Tall Man

Artisttyp
11-07-10, 07:33
Last week on Saturday evening the wait at about 7 PM was a good 2 hours. I am thinking it must have been because it was a Holloween weekend????

What is the wait on the return for tomorrow SUNDAY evening at about 8 PM? Anyone have a clue?

Thanks,

The Tall ManIt's hard to say these days from the reports I've been reading on another site. One guy advised that it's a good idea to check one of the local border websites then double the time.

If you do a google search for" san ysidro border crossing times" it will lead you in the right direction.

IMHO the long wait times aren't going away soon. There is just too much going on at the border these days to be lax on security.

If I lived in the area I would plan overnight trips to TJ to make it worth my time. If I had my own car I would park on the USA side and come back in the wee hours of the night.

Nothing is perfect about TJ but at least it's available to you.

Keg
11-07-10, 22:15
After my afternoon experiece in the lines on Saturday, I've decided to skip the Sunday afternoon cross-over and just stick to evening trips.
I've previously enjoyed the talent-mix from day to night shifts, with returns to the hotel in SD, but with the length of lines lately, I'll just do the night trips for now.
Passing through the "no lines" after midnight is just easier.

SuperSteve
11-08-10, 01:17
The line was about 30 minutes this morning at 9:00 AM.

Loc Pep
11-08-10, 06:16
You use to go to Tijuana alot more but now the lines got bad. And the cbp people they got working don't care because they are getting paid no matter what. They ask you alot of stupid questions, and if they don't like your anwers they send you to second inspection than you have to wait in another line, and more stupid questions when they can just fingerprint your freakin fingers! They are just pissed off they have to work on saturdays so they give everyone a hard time! They khow what we do in mexico! They are just pissed off they can't do it so they give us a hard time! And there you go more stupid questions! Peace everyone!

Dornyone
11-08-10, 06:51
After my afternoon experiece in the lines on Saturday, I've decided to skip the Sunday afternoon cross-over and just stick to evening trips.
I've previously enjoyed the talent-mix from day to night shifts, with returns to the hotel in SD, but with the length of lines lately, I'll just do the night trips for now.
Passing through the "no lines" after midnight is just easier.

Agreed, in future, I will skip my afternoon trips unless I have a hotel room, then I can sleep off whatever I've drunk and head North in the early am.

Ninguno Especial
11-08-10, 19:29
This is the easy answer if you cross the border even 2 or 3 times per month. You can apply online but do need to set an appointment at the Otay office to have an interview. Anyone with a clean record shouldn't have a problem passing the short interview. You do not need a reason to apply for the pass other than to save time and avoid being stuck in line for 2 hours.

$122 for a 5 year pass works out to pennys per day or $2 per month. How much is your time worth? An hour here, 2 hours there, it adds up. With the pass you literally walk past everyone in the other lines regardless of how long it may be.

Shadow68
11-09-10, 07:27
This is the easy answer if you cross the border even 2 or 3 times per month. You can apply online but do need to set an appointment at the Otay office to have an interview. Anyone with a clean record shouldn't have a problem passing the short interview. You do not need a reason to apply for the pass other than to save time and avoid being stuck in line for 2 hours.

$122 for a 5 year pass works out to pennys per day or $2 per month. How much is your time worth? An hour here, 2 hours there, it adds up. With the pass you literally walk past everyone in the other lines regardless of how long it may be. Do you need to live in a state that borders Mexico to qualify for a Sentri? I live in WA state, but I have been making about 4 trips a year into La Zona. It doesn't say anything on the CBP website about residency requirements but I don't want to waste the application fee if I'm not eligible.

Ninguno Especial
11-09-10, 17:50
Do you need to live in a state that borders Mexico to qualify for a Sentri? I live in WA state, but I have been making about 4 trips a year into La Zona. It doesn't say anything on the CBP website about residency requirements but I don't want to waste the application fee if I'm not eligible.

I really doubt that it makes a difference if you live in WA state or Kansas City if you cross the border often enough not to want to incur delays you should be entitled to the fast pass. You can register and do it all online. I believe it is a $25 application fee but this is not operated by the state so it should not matter if you are a CA resident or not IMO.

TomJackin
11-09-10, 20:24
Do you need to live in a state that borders Mexico to qualify for a Sentri? I live in WA state, but I have been making about 4 trips a year into La Zona. It doesn't say anything on the CBP website about residency requirements but I don't want to waste the application fee if I'm not eligible.

These are the documents I had to bring to the Sentri office:

Originals of evidence of citizenship that you listed on your application

If not a U.S. citizen, originals of evidence of immigration admissibility to the U.S., that you listed on your application

Valid drivers license (or state identification) issued in state where applicant lives

Vehicle registration and evidence of US automobile insurance by a company authorized to write automobile insurance in the US.

If the vehicle is not registered in the name of the applicant, a notarized letter authorizing its use by the applicant is required. A company vehicle requires written authorization on company letterhead.

Evidence of employment or financial support. (For instance, most recent years tax return, pay receipt, or direct deposit salary statement. Self employed must present business license, current tax information and bank statement)

Evidence of residence, (Mortgage or rent payment receipts)

The last one, the evidence of residence, could be an issue. Just e-mail them, and I'm sure you will get an answer one way or another.

Davidhb
11-10-10, 07:12
Do you need to live in a state that borders Mexico to qualify for a Sentri? I live in WA state, but I have been making about 4 trips a year into La Zona. It doesn't say anything on the CBP website about residency requirements but I don't want to waste the application fee if I'm not eligible.My friend lives in Florida and I live in California and we applied at the same time so we could go to the interview together and we had no problems. His was processed the same as mine and we also got the Global Pass that works at Customs and Immigration at most International Airports. No more blue forms and lines coming back into the Country from anywhere!

Shadow68
11-10-10, 16:50
Thanks for all the Sentri info guys! I will put in my application this week. I never have a car when I'm in town, my plan to get to the interview is to take a cab from the Ticuan hotel to the Otay crossing and walk across the border to my interview. Is that a reasonable plan or is there somehing I don't about the interview location?

Sound7
11-11-10, 21:49
Wear comfortable shoes for the walk across the border. Give your self extra time. The one story building is to the right. Follow the direction provided once you enter the building.

The Otay bus from centro is $1 or 10 pesos. Drop-off point at the bridge and seven minute walk to the Otay border crossing.


Thanks for all the Sentri info guys! I will put in my application this week. I never have a car when I'm in town, my plan to get to the interview is to take a cab from the Ticuan hotel to the Otay crossing and walk across the border to my interview. Is that a reasonable plan or is there somehing I don't about the interview location?

Artisttyp
11-11-10, 22:32
we also got the Global Pass that works at Customs and Immigration at most International Airports. No more blue forms and lines coming back into the Country from anywhere!

I am curious to know more about this. Someone mentioned to me that a "global pass" symbol is added to your sentri card ?

Also where would I get a sentri interview done if I don't live next to the border (new york) ?

I've heard they ask you questions relating to drug intake at the sentri interview...anybody ?

Thanks

Phordphan
11-11-10, 22:46
I am curious to know more about this. Someone mentioned to me that a "global pass" symbol is added to your sentri card ?

Also where would I get a sentri interview done if I don't live next to the border (new york) ?

I've heard they ask you questions relating to drug intake at the sentri interview...anybody ?

Thanks

Global Entry program...

http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/trusted_traveler/global_entry/

You can add it to an existing SENTRI account...

http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/trusted_traveler/nexus_prog/ge_kiosks.xml

I'm not sure if you get the G/E first, can you just tack on a SENTRI, too?

Artisttyp
11-11-10, 23:45
Global Entry program...

http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/trusted_traveler/global_entry/

You can add it to an existing SENTRI account...

http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/trusted_traveler/nexus_prog/ge_kiosks.xml

I'm not sure if you get the G/E first, can you just tack on a SENTRI, too?

Thanks. I've only heard about that program...never seen actual info regarding it.

Hambone78
11-12-10, 00:15
I am curious to know more about this. Someone mentioned to me that a "global pass" symbol is added to your sentri card ?

Also where would I get a sentri interview done if I don't live next to the border (new york) ?

I've heard they ask you questions relating to drug intake at the sentri interview...anybody ?

ThanksJust last week they asked me if I had ever done any illegal drugs. I told the guy I smoked weed in high school. He didn't even flinch and went on to the next question. As long as you are honest I think you will be alright.

Gilgamesh
11-12-10, 01:07
This is the easy answer if you cross the border even 2 or 3 times per month. You can apply online but do need to set an appointment at the Otay office to have an interview. Anyone with a clean record shouldn't have a problem passing the short interview. You do not need a reason to apply for the pass other than to save time and avoid being stuck in line for 2 hours.

$122 for a 5 year pass works out to pennys per day or $2 per month. How much is your time worth? An hour here, 2 hours there, it adds up. With the pass you literally walk past everyone in the other lines regardless of how long it may be.

I loved the 5.00 bikes back in the day. It may be worth the money with just a couple of trips a year.

John Magellan
11-12-10, 03:33
Time to cross at Otay Mesa today at 11:00 AM was 5 minutes! WOW !

John Rain
11-12-10, 06:03
I was able to make another trip to TJ this past Sunday/Monday. I’ll post in three reports.

Part One: Sunday Afternoon
I headed down Sunday and arrived at the Ueta parking lot about 1:30 pm and grabbed a cab across the border outside of the farmacia. I usually get dropped off at the Arch on Revolución, but the intersection was closed so I got out a couple blocks away. It was cool and partly cloudy, but a bit warmer than when I had left Orange County. I am excited to see what adventures this trip holds for me.

After my trip last month, I was greatly relieved to discover that my two favorite street girls were still working here, Miss Perfect and Miss Cariñoso. They are the foundation to ensuring I have a great trip, everything else will be gravy for me. I really enjoy experiencing some new girls each trip, but also love the time I’ll spend with my two sweethearts.

Nearing the bottom of the hill on Constitución, I see Miss Perfect across the street. She sees me and breaks out a big smile. Damn, I love that smile! When I reach her, we hold hands. She says she is a little cold and needs me to make her calientito. While I didn’t know that word exactly, I know caliente means hot, so I imagine she wants me to warm her up. (I try to learn a few new words of Spanish with every trip.) I lean into her ear and tell her I certainly will do that. She asks me what hotel will I get. I tell her Hotel Las Cascadas, but she says she wants me to stay at Hotel Mini. I stayed there last time, but on this trip I want a different experience, so I tell her no, I want Cascadas. After a few minutes, I say goodbye and head down the street.

Standing outside of La Capirucha Bar is Miss Cariñoso! I kiss her on the cheek and say hello. She always works early mornings and then heads home in the afternoon, so I tell her I will see her in the morning, which is our normal time. She says she will be here at 6 am and I tell her I’ll see her at about 7 am. I am happy, just a few minutes in TJ and my two favorites are already queued up for me.

I walk into Hotel Las Cascadas, which has piles of construction debris everywhere, and ask for a double room. I recognize the guy at the reception desk from my many trips here in years gone by. He says they don’t have any doubles, the girls have them all, but he can give me a remodeled single room on the second floor that he says will be very quiet. I agree. The charge is $40, but I pay in pesos 480, plus 100 deposit for the key card. I had some pesos left over from my last trip. You never know what kind of a room you’ll get at Cascadas — if you can get a room at all — and I’ve had them all over the years. Too hot, more often too cold, rarely quiet, and most often too noisy to sleep. I hope his promise of a quiet room is true this time.

I get settled into the room. It is remodeled, everything is new including a glass-enclosed shower, recessed lighting, new fixtures throughout, and an LCD TV. It also features a large gaudy, color print, apparently from the Kama Sutra of an Indian man with a large penis fucking an Indian woman — a nice touch, lest one forget the purpose of a trip to Tijuana.

Leaving the room, I see several banners in English announcing new construction because the rooms are being, REMOLDED. Yup! Remolded.

I need to get some money, so I head to Constitución to go to the bank across from McDonalds. I then stop at Farmacia Naciónal and buy two 20 mg Cialis for 410 pesos. I take one and put the other in my back pocket.

On the way back, I grab Miss Perfect and tow her down to Cascadas. She says she hasn’t been here in a long time. Typically, she uses Hotel Mini, and sometimes Hotel Porton, since she stands at that end of the alley. She is very impressed with the room and laughs at the rude artwork. We start with a slow blow job to completion, rest, talk, and then fuck.

During our conversation, she complains that “chinos” (the typical street girl term for anyone Asian) are always taking photographs and it upsets her. Then she tells me that sometimes guys take videos of the street girls. I say I know. Then she says that she has seen these videos on the internet and that they show many girls in the Alley. She has recognized herself from behind in some videos, but fortunately her face wasn‘t visible. I feel bad for her and hold her tight. She asks if I have many photos of girls. I remind her that I haven’t brought my camera here for several years, but that I have some photos of a few girls including her. She says she remembers me taking some photos of her back then, but she has “confianza” that I would never show these photos on the internet. I squeeze her and tell her that I love and respect her and won’t do anything to hurt her. I really enjoy my very special amiga and my heart aches for the stresses she has in her life. Afterwards, I walk her back up to her place near the corner.

I walk up the hill on Constitución heading to Bar El Fracaso on Articulo 123. Just like my last trip, I run into Miss ClassicLatina, grab her hand and tell her “Fracaso!” She laughs and tosses her scarf over to her friend who is very surprised to see her going up hill with me (they work out of Hotel Irma, down hill by the police station). She has a pretty face with dimples and a curvy body. She speaks almost no English, but that’s okay. I don’t really need a lot of yapping out of her anyway. J

In El Fracaso Bar, we get a table. She orders an orange drink and I get an agua mineral. They increased the fiche charge here; it use to be like $5, now it’s $7. The place is still a dump, but it’s has been seriously upgraded from what it was a couple years ago. I don’t recommend it, as I suppose few guys here at ISG would have the desire to frequent such a seedy place. But I love the TJ experience and this is totally authentic. Many of the girls here try to survive on dollar dances and won’t go to the hotel, but some will. I’ve found that this is often a starting point for the new girl who hasn’t turned pro yet or some who work part time here and part time on the street. Yes, there are a lot of ugly girls here, but I troll here for dollar dances and meeting the occasional diamond in the rough; okay, maybe there are not too many diamonds but an occasional sapphire can be found. J

Anyway, Miss ClassicLatina and I dance a few songs. She has warmed up quite a bit from my last trip, after an absence of 1½ - 2 years, she was still a little reserved. Now she’s leaning into me tight and much more relaxed. Nice. I like her. We laugh together at some guy who is flailing his arms wildly like he’s doing the Tango with some poor girl who clearly thinks he is insane, but needs the dollar bad enough to tolerate him. Like I said, I enjoy the whole experience.

Eventually, we head back to my room where she thinks the new remodel is very classy. I tell her not to look at the fuck picture because she is just a child. She laughs. I’m not sure of her age maybe 28, maybe 30? We don’t discuss money; we just have straight sex and then I pay her 300 pesos. She did throw in a lame back massage. I walk with her back up hill holding hands the whole way. Her friends all smile as we approach. I always take the street girls back to where they work, unless the experience was a bad one. I also hold their hands. This might sound stupid, I think the girls like it and my theory is that all the girls along the way will notice my behavior and know that I’m serious and respectful of the girls. I think this aids future negotiations with other girls. Maybe not, but I think it does and it is a considerate thing to do for the girls. Contrary to what I read on the forums here, my experience is that about a third of them have no boyfriend or spouse or pimp. Often, two or three girls share an apartment but are really lonely. To me, some of these types are great fun and open to friendship beyond just sex in the Alley. But it takes a bit of time to find these girls. I digress. I leave my friend and head right back to El Fracaso ready to jump back in again.

Again, I’m the only American in the place, so lots of the girls try to catch my attention. If I stand in one place, one-by-one a few of the girls will throw a glance my way and then move to an area in front of me, hoping to get my attention. It’s kind of fun. Here they are usually too timid to approach me directly. I decide to circle the bar and inspect all the talent. As I am passing the far corner there are a couple of girls on stools who say “Hey!” to me. Kind of unusual for this bar. One of the girls is cute, so I grab her hand and motion toward the dance floor. She’s an El Fracaso 9, so maybe a 7 in real life. Definitely a sapphire. Nice slender body, medium brown hair, and a pretty face.

We dance for just a minute and then she lays it on me, “Let’s go hroom!” Wow, that’s bold for this place. I struggle to ask her in Spanish if she doesn’t like my dancing. She looks down at my clumsy feet and then panning her hand back and forth tells me it’s so-so. I apologize and tell her I just want “bailar” (dance). She squeezes me tight, rubbing herself against me for the next five songs. Then I ask her if she would like a beer or some juice. She says yes and we get a table. She orders a clamato and I get agua mineral. Again, with the “Let’s go hroom!” If I hadn’t just finished with Miss ClassicLatina, I surely would have gone, but I don’t feel like it now. She opens her purse to put her fiche money in and I see a tube of lubricante and laugh while pointing at it. She smiles and again says, “Let’s go hroom!” Well, after about fifteen minutes she gives me the ultimatum “Hey! ¿Hroom o no hroom?” So, I tell her “No room.” Then she says okay I go mi casa, but I like you, okay. I tell her, yes, amigos. And so we part. She goes in back to get her jacket and then leaves the bar. Definitely a future prospect.

I leave and decide to walk to the far end of the alley, down to Hotel Venecia to see if any of my amigas are there. But none are, so I walk through Las Chavelas and nothing catches my eye. I cross Calle Coahuila and walk into Tropical Bar. Hmm, after a few minutes I see nothing but gorditas (chubbies) and none of them cute. I cross the street again and stroll through Adelita Bar. One or two of the girls look vaguely familiar. When I first started going to TJ, I spent most of my time in AB, but eventually I found the Alley and lost interest in the high pressure vibe of AB.

I leave AB and walk into Bar La Gloria which now has an entrance on Coahuila. It has been completely remodeled and it looks like they now have house girls working out of the new(?) Hotel Garcia. It’s a dive, but not quite the dive it once was. Long ago, I had perhaps my most interesting TJ experience in this bar, which I wrote about here in 2007: My Latina Posse. (http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=572339&postcount=830)

I cross the street and check out Chicago Club, but it’s just late afternoon and there are only a few girls. I circle the inside and then leave.

To be continued…

John Rain
11-12-10, 06:06
Part Two: Sunday Evening
I stop at the corner store to get a couple bottles of water to bring back to my room and then head back to Cascadas. In the lobby, I see a girl I have known for many years, but never slept with. I grab her around the waist and give her a hug. She’s an average looking girl with stringy brunette hair and a large toothy smile.

Originally, several years back, I had first seen her in El Fracaso where she was dressed in shabby clothes. A couple of street girl friends working there had pulled me aside and told me to stay away from her because she was bad. I asked why and they said she often got drunk, so drunk that she would cry about her sorrows until she fell asleep right there in the bar. But eventually, she got her act together, bought a short, sexy dress, learned how to do hooker make-up and started working outside of Cascadas/Chavelas. She really improved herself. I have chatted with her many, many times.

The funny thing is that I cannot remember her name, even though I should know it. It just escapes me. So, I ask her and she hits me and starts telling me a bunch of fake names, Marisol, Maria, etc, etc. She won’t tell me her damn name. For purposes of storytelling, I’ll call her Miss N~. We flirt for a bit and then I decide to take a shower in my room.

I come back down and pass by Miss N~, because I see a girl that gave me a nice blow job for 200 pesos last month, Miss BJ. She’s a slender brunette, about 30 years old. I am happy to see her. I greet her warmly and offer her 500 pesos for an hour of her time. She says no, it’s $100 for an hour! I put my hand on her forehead and ask her if she is ill because she is certainly crazy.

So, I ask Miss BJ how much for the whole night. She says $300! —And that she would leave at 2 am. I grab my heart and fall back against the building like I’m having a heart attack. I tell her she is crazy. I look around (remember, it’s Sunday evening and there are very few men walking around) and ask her how much she thinks she will earn this night working here. She says she expects to make $300. There’s no way in hell she will pull in anywhere near that amount tonight. Last month she gave me a BJ for 200 pesos, so I think the absolute best case would be $150 tonight and possibly a lot less. It’s just too slow here on a Sunday evening. She tells me that there are many very generous men around here. I feel her forehead again and she’s starting to get annoyed with me. I offer her 500 pesos again and she declines. I walk about ten steps away from her when Miss N~ grabs me hard and pulls me into her.

Miss N~ starts grilling me about my personal situation. Why am I still not married? She says all she needs is for me to give her a ring and we can get married. She points in the direction of the cathedral down on Niños Heroes and says the church is right there, we can be married tomorrow. I start acting sad and tell her that all my street girl amigas are gone now. She quickly reminds me that Miss Perfect is still here. Why don‘t I marry Miss Perfect? Damn street girls know everything that happens out here!

I name three or four girls that have left and she corrects me again telling me that one of the four I named is still here but only works mornings. Then she gives me her pitch. She wants to be my novia. If I take her to the room right now she will do everything for me. It will be the best sex I ever had and no time limit! (She knows I have a room here.) I tell her I want to suck her pussy and she quickly agrees. Then she says $60. I tell $60 is the price without pussy sucking, but I will pay $50 and suck her pussy. She says, “¡Cabrón! Okay, let’s go!”

I have to admit it was good in the room. She insisted on spending the first 15 minutes kissing me everywhere. It was nice and I enjoyed all the personal attention. We spent over an hour together and then showered together. I paid her 600 pesos. We walked downstairs and as we approached the wall outside of Las Chavelas, where I expected to leave her, she pulled me into Chavelas and said let’s get a drink. We did. Just two regular drinks, not a fiche. There was a live band. We listened to music, watched bull fighting videos, and danced together. I think I have a new novia! (By the way, at this point I still couldn’t remember her name.) After about 30 minutes, she said she needed to get back to work and I walked her outside, and then dove back into Chavelas.

I see two or three girls that are cute and I’m interested in, but they are already taken. I walk out the far entrance on Coahuila and see lots of motorcycle cops parked everywhere. They don’t seem to be doing anything, just showing presence. I have to say that the Zona seems safer now than ever. I poke my head in Tropical but still don’t see anything interesting.

Back to Chavelas I circle around time and again. But the cuties are still busy. I pass a glitzy looking blonde with big fake tits and she says hello. We sit together. I order a Bohemia and she orders a Tecate fiche beer which she drinks in two swift gulps and orders another. Boom, that one’s also gone in two minutes flat. I tell her let’s go to my room. We agree on $50 after a bit of haggling.

In my room, she quickly strips and I realize she has a giant ass. I guess in the bar I had been focused on those big, fake titties the whole time. She gets on all fours and wags that wide ass back and forth like she was waving the Mexican flag. I stick a finger in her thick pussy and it’s wet. She purrs. I try to put a finger in her ass and she laughs and stops me. Overall, the session was okay, but nothing to brag about. I wouldn’t do her again. She was kind of lazy. I walk her back downstairs. My stomach is a bit upset, so I go to the corner mercado to buy some Tums. (Just ask for Tooms, to mimic the Spanish pronunciation.)

I decide to turn in a little after 11 pm. I’m really more of a morning person.

To be continued…

John Rain
11-12-10, 06:18
Part Three: Monday
It was time change last night, so I’m up at 5:30 am. I shower and take a Cialis. I have a big day ahead of me. I wander downstairs and stand in the lobby. There are two young Mexican men standing there. I say good morning and they ignore me. Two more tough guys come over and then a real cute bar girl. I go across the street to get some hot tea in the Mercado next to Hotel Eduardo. While I’m standing there one of the guys comes over and buys a can of Tecate beer, opens it and pours the beer on the ground. The girl comes over and stands next to him. He takes the can and flexes to break the bottom off. He hands it to her. I suppose she is going to use the can bottom to cook some drugs in for her fix. I decide to walk down the block.

Miss Cariñoso comes up behind me says good morning. She has just walked here from her apartment. She buys something at the store on the corner and then tells me it will be a little while before she starts work.

I walk back down to Hotel Las Cascadas and stand again in the lobby. The tough guys are still around. Taxi Libre cabs come down the alley in a constant stream mostly to pick up bar girls who have just finished the night shift. A cab stops in front of us. The driver motions to one of the guys. The young tough leans into the cab. They exchange something. When the young guy returns to the lobby another of the toughs tells him in Spanish something about watching out for police and cameras. I decide to get out of there and climb the stairs up to the reception area and then wait in my room 20 minutes.

I head down and get Miss Cariñoso standing outside of La Capirucha Bar. I take her back to my room and we begin a long session of lovemaking, caressing, and kissing. She is so affectionate and I tell her so. She replies, “Tu también.” (You also.) And she just keeps going and going. We spent over two hours together. She never checked the time; she never asked how much time I wanted. We didn’t discuss money. I was seriously in love that morning session.

We end with a long, hot shower together. I give her some folded up money which she shoves into her purse without a glance. We kiss and hug and she says “Mucho ejercicio.” (A lot of exercise.) I’m dazed and in love.

Meanwhile, the damn hotel has been jack hammering out in the lobby. They are in the reception area breaking up the ceiling overhanging the stairs leading outside. There is dust everywhere and the stairs are blocked with fallen debris. As we leave the room, I’m wondering how we can get out. They see us and shout to stop the jackhammer and get a couple guys to sweep the concrete chunks off of the stairs so we can pass. Miss Cariñoso is not too happy at walking through this mess (¡mucho polvo!), but we manage okay and I walk her back down the street.

It’s 10 am and I’m starving and exhausted. I head over to the ATM and then get some breakfast at McDonalds. With all the excitement of my trip, I forgot to eat dinner last night, so I have a large OJ and two breakfast combos. I sit there a long time and then head back.

There’s not much going on this early and I circle the block a couple times. In Las Chavelas I don’t see my hot porn star fuck from last time and am disappointed. I eventually let the tout from Bar La Gloria talk me into coming in to see the strip show which is going to start in just a moment.

A skinny, homely brunette bar girl is busy texting. The mesero tells her to get up and come over to me. They argue briefly and then she comes over to me. She’s wearing a loose dress without a bra and rubs her titties against me. We sit down and she orders a Tecate fiche and I get agua mineral. She asks if I’m in TJ a lot. I say no and ask her if she is in TJ a lot and she laughs and says, “Mucho!” I ask her how she ended up here. She gives me some vague answer and I press her for details. She says she used to work at Bar La Carreta in the Alley. I say, “Oh, those bastards!” She says, “¡Si!” I tell her the meseros there are all mentirosos (liars). She repeats emphatically, “¡Siiii!” So, she says she quit there decided to try this bar instead.

Meanwhile, two fat chicks have come on to the stage and begin a lame attempt at dancing. She turns and laughs at them. She says they are fatties but she is nice and skinny. She wants to know if I am interested in going to the hotel. I tell her no, but that it was nice to meet her and chat with her. We shake hands and I leave.

Around the corner I see Miss Perfect and say good morning. We hold hands. She asks how my night went and I tell I do have a few adventures to discuss with her, but that I also have a problem. Really? Yes, there’s girl from last night; I have known a long time and took her back to my room, but I couldn’t remember her name and she wouldn’t tell me. Miss Perfect asks me some questions. What does she look like? Is she short or tall or average. What her face look like? Where does she usually stand? What kind of hair? After about six or seven questions, damn if she doesn’t figure it out! As soon as she says the girl’s name, I remember. Yes! That’s her! Finally, I know who Miss N~ from last night is. Miss Perfect is amazing.

I know Miss Perfect is not going to want to walk through the big construction mess at Cascadas, so I explain it to her and ask for 30 minutes time so I can move from Cascadas down to Hotel Mini. She agrees and so I pack up everything, check out of Cascadas and get a room at Hotel Mini.

I retrieve Miss Perfect and bring her back to my new room. I realize I’m still too tired so we get under the covers and spend the next hour talking and cuddling. We don’t have sex. Yeah, I know, I’m a putz. As we are leaving my room, she shyly hems and haws and then reminds me that I haven’t paid her. I’m embarrassed at my faux pas and dig into my pocket for her money.

I walk around for a while, in and out of various bars, and then take an older spinner street girl standing on the corner of Coahuila and Constitución for 240 pesos to Hotel Garcia. The rooms are nice and bright and clean. We had agreed on sin ropa and a blow job, but she leaves her bra and panties on. I complain and she says they stay on for the blow job but she’ll take them off when we have sex. Okay, that works I guess. The BJ is weak, but when she hops on my bone she grinds the hell out of me. I hold off as long as I can, but eventual come. As we are getting dressed she asks for a propina (tip). I say yes, “un beso” and lean down and kiss her cheek. Leaving the hotel she asks again for a propina and I remind her that my beso was “muy dulce” and better than a propina. She laughs and says okay.

On Constitución I spot a girl that I have always seen but never talked to. She’s been here for years and is actually somewhat famous as a street girl. I suppose many of you know Guadeloupe? She works days and always stands on Constitución at the parking lot across from the start of the Alley. I offer her 200 pesos to come with me to Hotel Mini. She agrees. In the room I explain that I just want to meet her since I have seen her for many, many years. She say she has also seen me for many years. We laid together on the bed and I basically interviewed her. Since I’ve mentioned her name, I won’t repeat any of her personal details, since some rat here will probably repeat them to her. She’s an interesting person and it was nice taking to her.

Well it’s getting to be time for me to head to the border but I would like to pop one more time before I leave. As I am passing Hotel Mini, I look down that long brick corridor and see a girl I have already walked by four or five times this afternoon. She is young and curvy and has a gorgeous face. Okay, you guys may think she is chubby, but I love those curves. I back up, turn down the corridor and put my arm out. As I approach I slowly scoop her into me and keep walking toward the oficina. She giggles and asks if we are going to a room? I tell yes. I pay the 60 pesos and we go into my room.

Inside, she falls back onto my bed and asks me what I want. I tell her I don't know but I think she is beautiful, so beautiful. Then I say wait, wait, okay, pausing to calm down and think for a moment I say, “quiero sin ropa y oral.” So we undress. I lay down on the bed on my back, she gets between my legs and sucks me looking into my eyes the whole time. Wow! After a while she lays down on her back and spreads her legs. She is curvy and gorgeous with a shaved pussy. I push into her and start. When she smiles she has a dimple and beautiful teeth. I keep telling her how beautiful she is. The more I tell her, the more she smiles. I stop a few times to kiss her neck and ear and face. She was just so pretty!

Afterwards, I'm still complementing her and she is just as sweet as can be. I am happy and can't believe my good luck at choosing her for my final pop.

I get a cab. The line at the border is short and I cross over. A scruffy looking bleached blonde woman is bumming money. She's in her 30's and is a mess, but I hand her a dollar. She asks me if I would like a date! No, no thanks. I think of that gorgeous babe I just had less than an hour ago.

The next morning I weigh myself. I lost two pounds. It was a good trip.

Be Safe.

Reinaldo
11-13-10, 02:51
Thanks to Mike 123 for the update on this place. I used to spend some time there, mainly for the $5 fichas. I'm sorry to hear they are history.

The Tall Man
11-13-10, 03:51
[QUOTE=Mike 123]Part Two: Sunday EveningIn my room, she quickly strips and I realize she has a giant ass. I guess in the bar I had been focused on those big, fake titties the whole time. She gets on all fours and wags that wide ass back and forth like she was waving the Mexican flag. I stick a finger in her thick pussy and it’s wet. She purrs. I try to put a finger in her ass and she laughs and stops me. QUOTE]

Mike, out of your 3 long reports, to me you should win a prize for this part. Funny shit!!!!

Good job, I enjoyed reading :-)

The Tall Man

Tommy 246
11-13-10, 12:59
Well done Mike, well done.

Anyone know when the Cascades construction will be completed? I'm really looking forward to the updated rooms, just hope there isn't updated prices.

Johnny Wadd
11-15-10, 08:36
the good:

i love the variety of chicas la zona offers. after picking up some generic vitamin v and enjoying a couple beers at chavelas, picked up a light skinned sg. i got upsold but it was still significantly cheaper than hk or mermaids. her name was sol and when she took off all her clothes she revealed a thin, nice body with pink eraser nipples. she did not rush and she did multiple positions and bj. 23 years old. then went opposite on my 2nd pop. taller, voluptous, darker skinned girl from hk. the second girl from hk cost more and was less memorable. goes to show how there's great value in the sg, though sometimes it's hit or miss.

the bad:

1. 5 hours wait for the pedestrian border crossing on saturday. the street vendors should consider selling sunblock lotion instead of the tacos and churros. border agents don't seem to care or have a sense of urgency. i give dmv agents more respect. the agent was reviewing my passport info like i was the next obama.

the ugly:

one beggar was asking for money with a tube and [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) bag stuck to his body, i guess from renal failure. another dude was missing feet and was blind from diabetes.

i can't wait to get back!

TomJackin
11-16-10, 07:29
Global Entry program...
http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/trusted_traveler/global_entry/
You can add it to an existing SENTRI account...
http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/trusted_traveler/nexus_prog/ge_kiosks.xml
I'm not sure if you get the G/E first, can you just tack on a SENTRI, too?
There is no wonder why I love the information provided in these forums.

Thank you so much Phordphan!!!

I received my Sentri pass in Friday's mail, but was in TJ, so did not get it until Saturday. I checked out the links that Phordphan posted, went to my GOES account to activate the Sentri card, and applied for the (no extra cost) Global Entry Program. By the close of business today, Monday the 15th, I was approved.

So instead of standing in the long passport lines, I can scan my passport and finger prints, and receive the quickest entry. Here is more information:

http://www.globalentry.gov/about.html

And here are the locations:

http://www.globalentry.gov/locations.html

Sound7
11-17-10, 18:20
The Global Entry Kiosk works as you indicated is no contact with immgration staff but it is another story with the US customs. One needs to turn in the slip as one exits to US customs. GLobal Entry in the customs is combined with the handicape traveler's line. This is something new at this terminal.

US custom staff interview is similar to SENTRI exit interview. Some ask to see the passport again and verification of travel.

Congratulation on your SENTRI. A new entrance has been created, no need to wait in the long line prior to the gate. SENTRI ONLY gate in operation.


There is no wonder why I love the information provided in these forums.

Thank you so much Phordphan!!!

I received my Sentri pass in Friday's mail, but was in TJ, so did not get it until Saturday. I checked out the links that Phordphan posted, went to my GOES account to activate the Sentri card, and applied for the (no extra cost) Global Entry Program. By the close of business today, Monday the 15th, I was approved.

So instead of standing in the long passport lines, I can scan my passport and finger prints, and receive the quickest entry. Here is more information:

http://www.globalentry.gov/about.html

And here are the locations:

http://www.globalentry.gov/locations.html

Artisttyp
11-17-10, 22:34
The Global Entry Kiosk works as you indicated is no contact with immgration staff but it is another story with the US customs. One needs to turn in the slip as one exits to US customs. GLobal Entry in the customs is combined with the handicape traveler's line. This is something new at this terminal.

US custom staff interview is similar to SENTRI exit interview. Some ask to see the passport again and verification of travel.

Congratulation on your SENTRI. A new entrance has been created, no need to wait in the long line prior to the gate. SENTRI ONLY gate in operation.I just got off the phone with global entry JFK/NYC. The guy on the phone explained to me that you need to show up "AT THE BORDER" for a SENTRI interview. There are no govt offices away from the southern border that do this.

His advice to me (coming from nyc) is to apply for the global access program first THEN fill out an online application for the SENTRI program. If you get an interview scheduled you will need to go down to the border. Just another lame excuse to take a TJ trip.

Reinaldo
11-18-10, 06:52
A new entrance has been created, no need to wait in the long line prior to the gate. SENTRI ONLY gate in operation.It's great that they have created a sentri only gate but you could have gone to the front of the line before and showed your sentri card. The rent a cops would have let you in.

Sound7
11-18-10, 18:34
I would apply for Sentri Program first and complete the process with the Sentri card in hand and then do the Global application. Global requirements are different than Sentri program and the interview processs may show that in a strange way. Global can be a bear in some cases based on the travel history.

I am not a big fan of Nexus, one can skip it. Interview process was not an issue by Canadian/American Nexus staff.


I just got off the phone with global entry JFK/NYC. The guy on the phone explained to me that you need to show up "AT THE BORDER" for a SENTRI interview. There are no govt offices away from the southern border that do this.

His advice to me (coming from nyc) is to apply for the global access program first THEN fill out an online application for the SENTRI program. If you get an interview scheduled you will need to go down to the border. Just another lame excuse to take a TJ trip :)

Sound7
11-18-10, 19:03
This was not an option in the past - current "Sentri Lane" for general public and the gate entrance for wheel chairs. For some time the gate entrance was allowed for Sentri passholders with a bicycle or without avoiding waiting in the long general public line. Than suddenly rent a cop demanded that one stand in the general public line, single incident.

Once inside one still has to contend with the coach bus traffic and lack of Sentristaff situation (lane closed).


It's great that they have created a sentri only gate but you could have gone to the front of the line before and showed your sentri card. The rent a cops would have let you in.

Dornyone
11-22-10, 21:02
WTF?
Which chica has the big glovebox? So that we can avoid her.



If we want to be really mean, we can always make a supported report to Dateline NBC and get some sort of investigation into Consumer Reports. Snicker snickerAs for Consumer Reports, I have only four things to say to them: 1 you don't know the difference between good performance and bad performance. Only the difference between a big glovebox and a small glovebox. 2 I am the consumer. Not you. You can give me the data. I'll make my own judgement. 3 you guys write so lame. I fall asleep after the second paragraph. 4 since when could cars be evaluated by such vague circles and dots? Washing machines. Ok. But cars? Haha. Get real. Oh well. As ironic as it may seem, I'm sure most of those people who work for CR drive Buicks. Acevedo 97sl2

Sgt Perv
11-22-10, 21:09
WTF?

Which chica has the big glovebox? So that we can avoid her.Doesn't that depend on the size of the glove wheather it is big or not?

Dornyone
11-23-10, 04:17
Doesn't that depend on the size of the glove wheather it is big or not?
True but Marigold takes one and all. I think she's from Chihuahua and is usually seen in yellow :)

Party God
11-26-10, 08:41
Went down this afternoon/evening. Poped into AB aroud 5:30. Talent was meager, the usual suspects. Went to HK and the place was popping with talent. I happened to stubble on one of my favorites. Tall girl from Monterrey, with a very tone body, dark skin. Sat with her over a couple fichas and shot the shit. Then went upstairs for an hour session. Her performance was worse than what I had remembered, don't know that I will be repeating.

I was ready to head out of town. Decided to go inspect AB again. The pickings were a lot better! Lots of new faces I didn't recognize. Others I hadn't seen in a while, an then the usual suspects. Headed to my favorite Taco Stand outside CC for some Al Pastor Tacos. Delicious as always.

Took a cab back to the border. Much to my dismay, the line was ridicluous as far as I could C. I don't understand where everyone was going. To USA for Thankgiving? I didn't feel like waiting in the line so I sought out the 5 dollar van. It took around an hour (just as long as it would have) but at least I didn't have to stand.

I really need to take your advice on Sentri! I'll have to submit my application ASAP. A few questions. If I drive across with the Sentri vehicle and pass, do all the passengers have to have a Sentri pass? Or do I have to drop them off to walk across? Also, do any of you drive to La Zona? If so where is the best place to park? Is it safe?

Thanks in advance.

Ninguno Especial
11-26-10, 18:40
I really need to take your advice on Sentri! I'll have to submit my application ASAP. A few questions. If I drive across with the Sentri vehicle and pass, do all the passengers have to have a Sentri pass? Or do I have to drop them off to walk across? Also, do any of you drive to La Zona? If so where is the best place to park? Is it safe?

Thanks in advance.All passengers are required to have the sentri pass otherwise you would need to kick them out, have them walk through and meet them on the US side. Good place to park is the Leyva Hotel or the lot just West of Ninos Heros on Coahila. It is the lot adjacent to La Perla Restaurant there on the corner with the thatched roof.

JPF
11-27-10, 00:12
I was there yesterday (Thanksgiving) too. At 9pm I thought the talent in HK and AB were below normal.

I crossed the border just past 10pm and it only took me a couple of minutes (2 in line ahead of me; 3 lines open; 5 agents working). That's only slightly longer than usual for that time of night during the week.


Went down this afternoon/evening. Poped into AB aroud 5:30. Talent was meager, the usual suspects. Went to HK and the place was popping with talent.

Took a cab back to the border. Much to my dismay, the line was ridicluous as far as I could see.

Nexus1
11-28-10, 04:51
I know the weekends are packed so I was wondering how are Tuesdays at Adelitas and Hong Kong.

Also whats the best day besides weekends to go.

Ninguno Especial
11-28-10, 19:02
I know the weekends are packed so I was wondering how are Tuesdays at Adelitas and Hong Kong.

Also whats the best day besides weekends to go.

All it takes is one chica (for most guys or you can repeat with the same one 6 times if you need to). Tuesday is a day many chicas take off but you can still find plenty at AB, HK and maybe even Chavelas. HK is always rocking to some degree.

Thursday is probably the best day to go during the week. I prefer Fridays myself.

JPF
11-29-10, 02:07
Also whats the best day besides weekends to go.

It depends on what you want. If you want the most number of chicas to choose from then the numbers go up at the week progresses:

Mon < Tue < Wed < Thu < Fri

However, if you want the best female:male ratio (i.e. fewer competing men per woman) then earlier in the week (Mon, Tue) are often better but that is more variable.

Jones 89
11-29-10, 08:01
Haven't been down in a long time is amnesia still open?

Last time I was there their were 4 customers in the place including me.

Thanks

Travelling Guy
11-30-10, 02:16
Gentlemen,

I have not been in TJ last few months and am planning the next in last week of December. Is this a good time or are most girls going to be headed home for Christmas?

Also, Have any new escort agencies come up lately with reasonable rates that have been getting decent reviews (like wisdom was last year)?

Sound7
12-01-10, 05:52
TG:

Typical cold weather and most chicas heading home for the holidays. Some will stay. Limited selection in the past and may be this year fewer going home.

Please report back what you find out about the escort set-up & chica condition.

Have a safe trip.

S7


Gentlemen,

I have not been in TJ last few months and am planning the next in last week of December. Is this a good time or are most girls going to be headed home for Christmas?

Also, Have any new escort agencies come up lately with reasonable rates that have been getting decent reviews (like wisdom was last year)?

Sunset Strip
12-01-10, 14:34
Gentlemen,

I have not been in TJ last few months and am planning the next in last week of December. Is this a good time or are most girls going to be headed home for Christmas?

Also, Have any new escort agencies come up lately with reasonable rates that have been getting decent reviews (like wisdom was last year)?

There is always a fair selection of girls in TJ. Girls are smart and play the market.They, too, know it is a holiday and that others will leave so many stay to make extra money.

The weather may not be all that cold. It was not last year, for example.

You will have fun.


I normally deal with Street girls and cannot speak on escort services.

SS

Sound7
12-02-10, 20:45
Hotel Paris chicas, does anyone a good report at this location?


There is always a fair selection of girls in TJ. Girls are smart and play the market.They, too, know it is a holiday and that others will leave so many stay to make extra money.

The weather may not be all that cold. It was not last year, for example.

You will have fun.

I normally deal with Street girls and cannot speak on escort services.

SS