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Blue Nose
06-03-06, 16:53
This is news for me?

I walked into McDonalds at the border and order a soda and this chuby ok looking girl was looking at me all the time, and I she said what's up, and told her I'm just cool, she asked me if I want a BJ in the McDonalds restroom for 20 and I pass, I need to save my energy for the goodies.

And also if you look around the Constitucion and surroundings you'll see a few local gringas women walking around, mostly crack hos, one of them was walking around in miniskirt with a dog, I bid you they can suck dick and cim for peanuts, did anyone ever try?

Souther Ca is getting hard for them to work because of LE pressure, I think they just cross the border and work around the taxi line waiting for us!

I'm just not sure if this is real or was just this time, but the ones in la Zona
are dangerous drug addicts, be carefull !

Can anyone confirm this?

Yes, there are American girls who work in TJ. Generally, they seem to work as SWs rather than in the clubs. One of the doormen of a local club was pimping out two American SWs a few weeks ago on a Thursday night. They were older and less attractive. Generally, when I see American girls working in La Zona, they are older, less attractive and in one case she looked to be either a real junkie or mentally ill. My advice for other mongers is to take a pass on these girls and stick with the local talent.

Blue Nose

Whoopster
06-03-06, 18:19
Headed down yesterday for a day trip, my usual M.O. Ran into my regular provider Marisol, who works from Hotel Eduardo. Paid $30 for sex and bbbj with a facial finish. She usually stands toward the street instead of along the building, if anyone is interested in her.

Just as we started I asked if she does anal, she said si but $20 more. I agreed and we switched from mish to doggy with anal penetration. It was my first time. At first I thought I was hurting her but then she seemed to be enjoying it. I'm not sure, maybe she was just acting that way, but I sure enjoyed it. Finished with the bbbj and facial as agreed.

Went to Viva Mex Massage parlor next for a 1 hour recharge massage. This place is nice and clean. 1 hour therapuetic is $35. It's totally legit and has a nice hot shower after the massage.

Back to the alley and I found a new face. Her name is Karen and she's one of the smallest girls out there. Very friendly and playful at first, but didn't likr me touching her. She did a pretty good cbj with me sitting on the edge of the bed and her squatting in front of me. She ran her finger tips everywhere, which was a real turn-on for me.

The sex wasn't as good though. She insisted on being on top and me keeping my legs closed and straight. Took a long time this way but she worked hard enough at it to get me off. At first I thought she was playing "beat the clock" and trying to stall until the knock on the door came, but I was wrong.

All-in-all it was a good day. The border crossing sucked again.

Whoopster

Lascivious
06-04-06, 02:21
Last trip, which was a while ago, I saw a little cutie in front of the hotel Ribera. She was really cute but when I got up close to talk to her she seemed too young so I passed.

Some of the girls seem young on the street but once you get them up stairs naked, they look like women.

Do they, (the hotels, cops) allow girls that are to young to hang out right in the middle of the zona? I wanted to go up with her. Was I just being paranoid? Does Ribera have a rep for this kind of thing?

John02
06-04-06, 08:55
Try Candy in Adelitas, she is a little older (maybe 36) than the new wave of youngsters but she still has a good figure and she will probably go for .4 + .12 for the room. Ask her if she will do BJ without the cover and she will most likely say yes. If you offer .50, she may even do the BBBJ and let you bust another one with a cover inside her. Ask for her everyone there knows her. Take care of her she is a sweetie!!


I have never tried but read many reviews on ***. They give more service. Daty, dfk, and my favorite BBBJ.

I can't hardly find any BBBJ. When I do its from a big older girl or the less then avg girl will stop and spit every 10secs. Funny at first but you never cause its lame as hell.

So where is everyone scoring BBBJ in TJ?

Wazup
06-04-06, 16:06
Hey, where is Viva Mex massage? Sounds like a good deal for a legit massage.

Reinaldo
06-04-06, 23:10
Try Candy in Adelitas, she is a little older (maybe 36) than the new wave of youngsters but she still has a good figure and she will probably go for .4 + .12 for the room

I'm sure Candy would be flattered to hear you think she's 36 but I would say she's closer to 45.

USASexGuideHo
06-05-06, 05:35
There are at lease two "Mermaids" massage and extras (M+E) places in TJ; One is almost directly across from AB (Zona location) and another is about 10-15 blocks away (8th Street location).

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=424356&postcount=20

A local mentioned to me his surprise at Mermaids pricing as follows:
1) Zona pricing at 40M + (80-120)E = (120-160)/hr/gringo, compared with
2) 8th Street location at 40M + 40E = 80/hr/local

The 8th Street location isn’t in the safest of areas for a gringo (fine in the daytime) yet the group there seems happy enough also to try and up the price. First they ask for 50M, act like its standard and often get it apparently; after that the Chica might ask 120E (even from good looking dudes).

Here’s the 8th Street Mermaids Workaround:

a) Confirm with all staff (entry and 2nd floor bar) you’ll only offer 40M. Do this before going upstairs (3rd floor) and refuse the service otherwise (they'll agree). Upstairs staff will still try the hustle but mention/remind of your concurrence with the others - note the entry staff seem to have the most pull.

b) Accept that the Chica will discuss 40-120E before starting; feign disappointment if it’s at the high end and say you’ll just take the 1 hour M

c) The Chica won’t be excited to hear this as she’ll have to do her regular job, loose the gringo bonus and also any “local level” extras she might otherwise have seen. The Chica has zero in her pocket at this point.

d) Make sure the top comes off as standard.

e) About 10min later around flip time (and if you’re into it) offer to give her M; that’s right give her M - she’ll be up for a break and M generally gets most anyone hot.

f) When she goes back to work on you your bargaining hand is substantially increased; she still hasn’t made any E, the clocks ticking, and suddenly she’s actually into it.

g) Local rate should be no problem at this point. Your only added cost is the time spent straddling a hot young chica while you massaged her – value ascribed to this cost will vary among individuals.

Massage Tip – Just do what she did.

Don’t know if the workaround might apply in the Zona Location; do however know that [(50-60)+11= (61-71) for AB@20-30min] << [40+40=80 for mermaids@60min]. Also the 8th Street location is actually quite comfortable once you’re inside (pool table, comfy leather chairs, few people, very relaxed atmosphere and a bar)

Pricing reference:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=432042&postcount=70
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=431740&postcount=68
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=423737&postcount=16
(Not sure if this last link might have meant 80E above M)

Member #4450
06-07-06, 01:59
It was my first time I bought a Cialis pill at the border pharmacy I don't remember the name but there are a few on the same street.

I took this pill and to be honest I couldn't tell the difference with or without the pill, I didn't feel any xtra power or something similar, I got worry and always thinking if they sold me the real thing or a fake pill?

I paid 13 for one, it came in a small box labeled Cialis, can anyone tell me how to spot the fake Cialis, I had the 20mg pill, and I waited a few minutes but my little friend never saw the difference?

QuackUp
06-07-06, 03:18
After coming home from Cabo, see my report in the cabo section, I still had the urge for the latina culture. I headed down last Thursday. First stop a/b.. It was way better than the usual Sundays when I come down. There were more than a few hotties there. I also feel if I want a trophy f**k this is the place to be. Many good looking women were here tonight.

At the time I didn't want a trophy, so I headed over to l/c.. After being in a/b, the talent seem pretty low. I looked for Suzy but the waiter told me she doesn't work there anymore. It seems all the good ones I find leave after a month or two. Hopefully it isn't me. ( lol ).

After sitting for a half hour I decided on Melisa. A very cute blond. Went upstairs and the session was better than average but not spectacular. She did allow dfk, but only cbj. She didn't rush and at the end I paid her $600 pesos. Way better price than in cabo.

Next stop t/b.. There were only two cute girls I would have done but of course they were occupied. I stayed there for about an hour and left to get something to eat.

After dinner I went to h/k.. Yes, even on Thurday night they made you pay for a beer before going in. Talent was decent tonight. Here I picked Ruby. A short very pretty spinner. I bought her a drink and watched the lesbo whip cream show from the 2nd floor. She told me the two chicas were really lovers outside of work.

Again they brought up a brave soul to help them end the show. They brought down his pants and creamed him up exposing his privates. Brave soul indeed.

After the show I took her up. Again, better than average nothing great. She too allowed dfk but only offered cbj. Just like Melisa, this was a no rush session. I paid her $600 pesos also.

Once done, I now headed over to c/c.. I have been reading how this place seem to be going down hill but when I went inside the place was pretty full. They did have there share of hotties in the club. If I hadn't just finished a session, there were at least three chicas I would have done.
Before I forget, this was around 11:30 at night. I stayed for about an hour and retired for the night only to come back the next night. More on my next post.

QuackUp
06-07-06, 03:20
Coming back the next day I wanted a good bbbj since I couldn't get one the night before. I saw Aricelli in the street, she recognized me, smiled and we headed for the hotel. She started to strip and I told her all I wanted was a bbbj. By then she had her panties off. She then proceeded to give me a great bbbj to completion with spit. Paid her $220 pesos and $30 pesos for the hotel. Nice little bargain.

Feeling good I went to get something to eat then head back to t/b.. Much better talent today but the one I wanted was again occupied. I did get her name. I believe she said Lilith. She is somewhat tall, blond hair and a very cute face. If anyone knows her, please let me know the details.

Since she wasn't going to be free anytime soon, I picked another spinner and for the life of me I can't remember her name. Her session was quite good but again cbj.. It's funny she would lick my balls and shaft without condom but when it came time for head, on came the cover. She is pretty much an animal in the bedroom. All kinds of positions, no rush, even after the knock she wanted to keep going. If it wasn't for the cbj, she would be at the top of my list. I paid her $600 pesos, no problem. I will definitly see her again, altough she says she is pretty busy most times. I can see why.

I was done and since it was early enough, I decided to take the mexicoach back in case the line was to long at the border. At least if there was a wait, I would be waiting sitting down. As I was walking to the Mexicoach station, I notice the Caliente race book now has slot machines. I didn't go inside, but from the outside, it looks like a bit of Vegas is now in tj..

Also before the Mexicoach, I notice Bambi's is again open and the one next door is open also but under another name. From the one woman who came out of Bambi's I still think they hire a bunch of tv's to work there. In case that is your thing.

Almost forgot, for you rio verde fans out there, it is also open. That's the good news. When I went inside, the bad news was there were only three girls inside. I asked the waitress if anymore chicas would be coming in, she said no. This was on Thursday night. Well thats it for now, hope this helped.

q

BaitAndSwitch
06-08-06, 06:18
Is there any way to line up an all nighter with a hottie down there?

Thanx.

Asian Shark
06-08-06, 21:43
Fellow Mongers

I will be traveling to TJ on June 22 - 25. I am looking forward to having some TJ chicas and maybe I'll see some of you mongers. What I am hearing now is that Adelitas are busy on Thursday nights thru the weekend. Maybe I'll try Chicago or Hong Kong.

Asian Shark

Toad Tamer
06-09-06, 02:56
Why not try all three, then go back to your favorite?


Fellow Mongers

I will be traveling to TJ on June 22 - 25. I am looking forward to having some TJ chicas and maybe I'll see some of you mongers. What I am hearing now is that Adelitas are busy on Thursday nights thru the weekend. Maybe I'll try Chicago or Hong Kong.

Asian Shark

Blue Nose
06-09-06, 03:45
Fellow Mongers

I will be traveling to TJ on June 22 - 25. I am looking forward to having some TJ chicas and maybe I'll see some of you mongers. What I am hearing now is that Adelitas are busy on Thursday nights thru the weekend. Maybe I'll try Chicago or Hong Kong.

Asian Shark

AB is very busy on the weekends, day and night but especially at night. Chicago is dead until about 8:00pm and then starts to liven up. AB girls are generally considered the hottest, but you can find some nice talent at CC.

SlutFucker - see my post from about two weeks ago - "TLN in TJ". This gives you some good advice for how to line up a girl for a todo la noche (all night) session. Happy Hunting & please report back on your experiences.

Blue Nose

Blue Nose
06-09-06, 03:51
It was my first time I bought a Cialis pill at the border pharmacy I don't remember the name but there are a few on the same street.

I took this pill and to be honest I couldn't tell the difference with or without the pill, I didn't feel any xtra power or something similar, I got worry and always thinking if they sold me the real thing or a fake pill?

I paid 13 for one, it came in a small box labeled Cialis, can anyone tell me how to spot the fake Cialis, I had the 20mg pill, and I waited a few minutes but my little friend never saw the difference?

HornyTraveller - From the sounds of it, you got the real deal. Single Cialis tablets are sold in a small box. Inside the box is a single yellow, triangular-shaped tablet with a "C" on one side and a 20 on the other side. The tablet is packaged in a blister.

You may not have noticed anything unless you try for like 3-4 pops. Then you really notice it. As well, the tablet doesn't work by itself - it only helps you keep it up after you are, well, stimulated.

Haven't heard of any fake Cialis coming out of TJ, so my advice is to give it another try. Next time, try one of the Farmacias in Pharmacy Alley just after you exit the turnstiles (on the right) when you walk across.

Blue Nose

Bend It
06-09-06, 20:14
I second what Blue Nose said - Cialis doesn't make an immediate difference, only makes an impact after you've got a hardon. If you want to feel a difference, in a more immediate way, go with viagra. You'll be walking around with wood, whether you want it or not!!! LOL!!!!

Chame7777
06-10-06, 05:02
was in tj for a few hours and had a great time at ab...as someone said, its the place to get a trophy lay, but you must be direct with teh guirls, they know they are hot and they speed things up and make a lot of rules to get you in and out fast. i went over to a place called "purple rain", they have alot of english speakers and real friendly with its own hotel but its a scam. you goo in and they lineup the girls which are 6-8's and then explain thats its 45 for one hour massage and you deal with the girl upfront for extra. well sounds great but once in the room and getting that "massage", they pull out teh price list which is 60 for hj, 80 for cbj and over 120 for "full service". thats over 150 to get some panocha, hell no. stick to street walkers and ab for pleasure.

Member #4450
06-11-06, 01:05
HornyTraveller - From the sounds of it, you got the real deal. Single Cialis tablets are sold in a small box. Inside the box is a single yellow, triangular-shaped tablet with a "C" on one side and a 20 on the other side. The tablet is packaged in a blister.

You may not have noticed anything unless you try for like 3-4 pops. Then you really notice it. As well, the tablet doesn't work by itself - it only helps you keep it up after you are, well, stimulated.

Haven't heard of any fake Cialis coming out of TJ, so my advice is to give it another try. Next time, try one of the Farmacias in Pharmacy Alley just after you exit the turnstiles (on the right) when you walk across.

Blue NoseBlue Nose you're right again!

I was expecting to get it up within 10 minutes later after my first pop, but I guess it doesn't work that way even if you want to, forgot I was human!

The good news it did work for me good but it lasted about 2 days, the bad news is Mr Pecker was getting happy at home for no reason. LOL,LOL

El Putero
06-11-06, 02:14
Thank you for the warning Chame. I was in TJ for three days this past week and did take a walk in there to look around, but told them I was only there to look. I did not investigate very deeply.

I spent the three days staying in the Hotel Hacienda de Santiago. All reports about the place are accurate and I highly recommend it. Many Americans stay there and bring their chicas in. The hotel staff work to keep unwanted people out.

There needs to be a separate section for TJ hotels on this board.

Thunderbolt47
06-16-06, 02:40
I am interested in Rosarito. What would be the taxi fare from zona norte? What are the best places to go? (hottest raunchiest filthiest cheapest girls!!!!) (Yeah baby- Yeah ah ah!!!!) Where are the best stage shows?

I am interested in some really raunchy action with a hot girl in TJ (anal possibly?)

What (who) is my best bet??

Thanks a lot guys.

T-bolt

QuackUp
06-17-06, 02:10
I went to rosarito last Nov. but I took a chica from the zona with me. The taxi ride was $25.00 usd one way. You can also catch the Mexicoach. The bus ride is only $6.00 usd per person one way.

Since I took a chica, we basically stayed in the hotel except when we went out to eat. Recommended, take a side trip to Puerto Nuevo and have the lobster dinner there.

Q

Thunderbolt47
06-17-06, 10:18
Thanks Quack!

Anybodyelse been to Rosarito? Where the raunchy chicas hang out?

Thanks,

T-bolt

Pumphernickel
06-18-06, 23:38
I'm planing on heading to TJ later this week and though I'v been to the Zona many times I'v generaly stayed with the tried and true - i,.e. AB, CC, HK, et. al.I'd like to expand my horizons and try some LTCs (La Toda Noches) thogh I'v heard ther's some good and bad. Can any one name some of the better ones for a newbie in this field?

Also, concerning perscriptons, I always play it safe down there. I alys see a Mexican Dr. and have them write me one up. They're done in triplicate. One stays withe the Dr., one with the Pharmacy and the third with the customer to prove he is compying with mexican law (alays keep a back-up copy in case some dick wants to screw with me and take my original). I have never had any trouble crossing the US border this way.

I'm I being naive in thinking I am complyng with the law or could I still get my but thrown in a TJ.

Pumphernickel
06-18-06, 23:39
I'm planing on heading to TJ later this week and though I'v been to the Zona many times I'v generaly stayed with the tried and true - i,.e. AB, CC, HK, et. al.I'd like to expand my horizons and try some LTCs (La Toda Noches) thogh I'v heard ther's some good and bad. Can any one name some of the better ones for a newbie in this field?

Also, concerning perscriptons, I always play it safe down there. I alys see a Mexican Dr. and have them write me one up. They're done in triplicate. One stays withe the Dr., one with the Pharmacy and the third with the customer to prove he is compying with mexican law (alays keep a back-up copy in case some dick wants to screw with me and take my original). I have never had any trouble crossing the US border this way.

I'm I being naive in thinking I am complyng with the law or could I still get my but thrown in a TJ jail for a god long time

Pumphernickel
06-18-06, 23:45
I'm planing on heading to TJ later this week and though I'v been to the Zona many times I'v generaly stayed with the tried and true - i,.e. AB, CC, HK, et. al.I'd like to expand my horizons and try some LTCs (La Toda Noches) thogh I'v heard ther's some good and bad. Can any one name some of the better ones for a newbie in this field?

Also, concerning perscriptons, I always play it safe down there. I alys see a Mexican Dr. and have them write me one up. They're done in triplicate. One stays withe the Dr., one with the Pharmacy and the third with the customer to prove he is compying with mexican law (alays keep a back-up copy in case some dick wants to screw with me and take my original). I have never had any trouble crossing the US border this way.

I'm I being naive in thinking I am complyng with the law or could I still get my but thrown in a TJ jail for a while

Amerioca
06-19-06, 06:53
Found a gringa tricking off of the alley(on the hill) last Friday. I did not catch her name, however, she claimed to be originally from Maryland, and currently resides in Pt. Loma. Also, only works 3 weekdays out of the week. WTF?

Times are tough, I guess...

Time4aSpliff
06-19-06, 18:27
[Anybody else been to Rosarito?]

Rosarito can be fun. There's some good places for cheap fresh seafood and there are atleast two clean resort type hotels.

The last time I went, a waiter at one of the restaurants at the Plaza Fiesta recommended a little strip place called Chicks N' Beer. I don't know if the place is still there but it's a great place to kill time. There are some 7's-10's at that place and I found out that if you have a good rapport with your server (remember his name), there's some 1st rate take-out that can be arranged.

If you don't want take-out, the VIP room can be a lot of fun if you pick a "fun" girl.

The only drawback to this joint is that most of the girls allow community feeding when they're doing their stage show. That means that a girl might come up to you and give you a mouthful of 10 other guys' spit.

Have fun.

Peel Boy
06-20-06, 23:48
Spent 2 days (the past weekend) in TJ, and thanks for O'Tools Guide, I had a good time. I would like to feed back to the forum since O'Tools might be somewhat outdated. It is still extremely useful though. Being a Canadian without any spanish and experience even in SoCal, I owe O'Tool big time.

Accommodation:

I stayed at the Days Inn in Chula Vista Friday and Saturday nights. The rate after tax is 108usd, above my budget. The room is small; decor is old. The worst part is the shower, which runs with a cycle of 20 secondw with very cold and very hot water, sufficient to cause a third degree burn. If I didn't have my luggage with me, some TJ hotels could be a better option.

Parking:

Accurate information. I parked at the first lot though where the TJ shutter is, because of the light and the traffic, which provide perhaps a false sense of security. I didn't have no trouble though. The drawback is it is quite a walk when coming back from Mexico. It is fine in the day, but walking alone after midnight was kind of scary. The rate is 7 usd perday. The recommend lot by O'Tool has gone up to 9usd.

Entering Mexico:

No problem at all. It was a leisure walk around noon, when the temperature was just right.

Taxi:

5 usd to Adelita and 5 back to Sentra. Taxi driver knew where I was heading to as soon as I got into the car.

Adelita:

The best Amongst the 3 I have been: Adelita, Chicago and Hong Kong. I watched Mexico vs Angelo there. All girls were available for hugs and kisses during the game.

There were also good selections there, slightly more at night though. Picked a hottie, blonde of 24 years from ???. She told me, but I could not catch the name. She started with oral, then cowgirl, doggie and the traditional to end the 30 minute session. Total damage was 60 usd plus 12 usd for room and 2 usd for tips (?) to the guy wearing a security vest.

I did another girl, aged 21 at night, and again the usual routines and same damage. O'Tool is right. The hard bodied hottie frequented at the central while the college type ones stayed at the back. I was very interested in a young college look girl with a pretty face. She is not tall but turns myfantasy on. No luck because she was occupied and then taken out.

Girls were very aggressive. At least half of them had approached me for drinks or going up.

Beer is 3.75 usd. Girls drinks are 7.

Chicago:

No talent at all. Very disappointing and very quiet. I left before mid-night, but according to O'Tool, hot girls would come in after the wee hours.

Hong Kong:

I was confused with the system there, since I don't speak spanish. Is it a strip club only? Is there a hotel upstairs, just like Adelita and Chicago? I spent all my one dollar note there. Also had a girl to dance for me for 2 songs. 20 usd damage.

Beer is 4 usd, with buy one get one free promotion. girls drinks are 7, I believe.

HK is not a bad place to past time. I stayed there for about 4 hours each day and the total was about 40. Not bad. Unlike Adelita, girls there were not aggressive.

Alley:

Quality is extremely poor. There were at least 200 of them any time during the day or at night, but none of them was worth banging. I did 2 though. The first one was a Mayan, very short with very small tilts. We agreed 20 plus 5 for the room plus 1 for the tips. She would take her her skirt and asked me for 10 more for removing her tops and 10 more for oral. It is O'Tools fault he didn't tell us newbies how to monger in the alley. I refused, but kept banging her for 20 minutes before finish. After I walked out, I remember the phrase sina ropa.

The second time was a young 19 year old with a typical native face and very dark skin. I asked for the top removed before striking a deal and she agreed. Damn it. I forgot to ask for oral, another mistake, which cost me 10.

Food:

It seems taco is the only thing available in Mexico. 1 dollar a piece. I am not sure if I over paid. The most "exciting" part was the oyster cocktail. Back home, oyster is cheap and I love it. I spent an hour before the stall watching mexican and grave american eating the cocktail, before I decided to give it a try. I didn't get sick though. Lucky me.

Overall experience:

Not bad. Quality wise, Eastern Europe is better. Cost wise, DR and Asia are cheaper. Next time I have to go to LA for meetings again, I will pop by TJ for sure. It is geographical so close. That's it.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.

Member #4450
06-21-06, 00:50
Does anyone knows how much is a prescription in TJ?

And where in the border is the nearest clinic?

Why do I need a prescription in TJ when you don't really need one, I'm thinking to buy blood pressure medicine, this is an average drug I shouldn't have any problem I guess ? But maybe someone knows better?

I can take an empty bottle with me to TJ with the medicine brand and with ny name on it in case the policia want to give me a hard time, can always show that I'm currently talking the drug and is legally prescribed by a U.S doctor. I'm new to it so if you know the best and safest way to do it please pm me some info thanks.

Roadshark
06-21-06, 05:55
Found a gringa tricking off of the alley(on the hill) last Friday. I did not catch her name, however, she claimed to be originally from Maryland, and currently resides in Pt. Loma. Also, only works 3 weekdays out of the week. WTF? Times are tough, I guess...
Hang out enough there and you'll see an american almost every time near the alley. Always trying to either get drugs or a hook up to buy drugs. And they're always in shitty shape from being short on dope. Cops don't care, they're spread out or sitting on the corner slumped over like a rag doll - and everyone just keeps walking.

Of course, she's dressed like a ****, isn't from there, and clearly has a habit.
Now, you're in a country with scarce resources, babe (bless your heart). I don't see outreach coming to take any girls to rehab. It's got to be an awful position to be in.

Roadshark
06-21-06, 06:03
Has anyone see a woman named Lisa near the alley? She's about 39 y/o, mexican american - very fair skin with big juggs, wavy hair & tattoos on her tits (Ricardo in cursive). I fucked her last year in a hotel on the alley. She was from san diego - a DJ she said. But living in TJ, and generally didn't go to the states. Interesting. I figured she was either hiding out from the law or keeping close to a supply. She enjoyed our sex so much she actually invited me to her apartment a few blocks away next to the Molina. Unfortunately, she had a boyfriend who payed for many of her expenses & got in the way. So, my multiple encounter got cut short. Just interested to see if she was still around.

Whoopster
06-21-06, 06:10
What i heard is that you need a prescription from a Mexican doctor. To play it safe I would also take my American precription so that if you're stopped at the border, you're covered either way.

Next time I go I intend to ask one of the larger pharmacies how to get a prescription, But maybe someone here already knows??

TJ Bob
06-21-06, 16:25
What i heard is that you need a prescription from a Mexican doctor. To play it safe I would also take my American precription so that if you're stopped at the border, you're covered either way.

Next time I go I intend to ask one of the larger pharmacies how to get a prescription, But maybe someone here already knows??

Legally, you are allowed to purchase 50units(not 90days anymore) of meds to be brought back to the US with a US script if asked for it. Do not try to bring back scheduled CII meds and anabolic steriods without a US script. You do not need a US script for non-scheduled meds. Again legally, you need to get a Mex script(a US script is no good) for all meds purchased in TJ/Mex or a $hakedown is a high possibility because it is illegal to purchase meds w/o one.

You can ask any of the pharms to direct you to a mex doc that will write you a script for $20-$25 per 1 med.

Blue Nose
06-23-06, 16:37
Guys,

The Mexican Federal elections are coming up next weekend. I believe that Sunday July 2nd is the day they go to the polls. I don't want to be accused of sprading false information, but I believe all bars in the country must be CLOSED that day, including ones in the zone. If you're heading down to TJ for the Independence Day weekend, you may want to plan on doing something else on Sunday. There may still be some SG action, but I would imagine most of the clubs will be closed unless they are not serving alcohol (unlikely). I have never been there on an election day, so I do not know for sure. This is just what I hear from the locals.

Depending on the outcome of the election, you may see their currency stay where it is now (~10.5 pesos / USD) or it may fall significantly as it has in the past. Stay tuned.

Blue Nose

Roguesta
06-23-06, 16:45
I live in Tijuana, and this is what I'm hearing about the election: Bars will be closed thoughout Mexico, but Tijuana will be the exception. The reason is that since Tijuana is so close to the border and the election is so close to July 4th, the area will lose too much money. The only areas allowed to be open, however, are in the entertainment zones (Revolucion, Zona Norte).

I'm not stating this as fact, but this is what the locals are telling me.

Reinaldo
06-24-06, 05:29
, but I believe all bars in the country must be CLOSED that day, including ones in the zone.

Blue Nose

Mexico's state and federal electoral code used to mandate dry elections but the laws have been changed. Bars in Baja California were open during the last state wide elections so I expect the same will be the case this time for the federal election.

Ninguno Especial
06-24-06, 15:58
Guys,

Depending on the outcome of the election, you may see their currency stay where it is now (~10.5 pesos / USD) or it may fall significantly as it has in the past.

Blue NoseFor the last month it's been above 11.0 and rocks this week around 11.3.

Mutha Foo
06-24-06, 18:51
Currency will probably fall but not by very much. My guess is 11 pesos to the dollar.

Reinaldo
06-25-06, 01:21
I was in Cabo during the last election when alcohol sales was prohibited.

I'll take your word for it but Cabo is in a different state than Tijuana, Ensenada etc. As I said below alcohol sales were business as usual for the last elections in the state of Baja California.

Roguesta
06-25-06, 09:33
Tijuana is in Baja California Norte, so that would make it a different state from where Cabo is.

Blue Nose
06-26-06, 02:07
Currency will probably fall but not by very much. My guess is 11 pesos to the dollar.

Mutha Foo - I think it will depend on who wins. If Calderone (same party as Fox) prevails, then currency will probably stabilize. If Lopes Obrador wins then that's a differnent story altogether. That dude sounds like a watered down version of Hugo Chavez, so he is making all the business people very uneasy. If he prevails, look for a flight of capital from Mexico, increased unemployment and a falling peso. Right now, it's too close to call, although the smart money has the crazy guy a few points ahead. Depending on who wins, things may just become a little cheaper for us gabachos!

Blue Nose

Mutha Foo
06-29-06, 04:01
Dunno, but all I know is that TJ will be shut down on Sunday and I guess I'll spend my time and my dime at Harrah's.

Metal_Mickey
06-29-06, 07:12
Tijuana, being the ***** that she is, will be wide open for business this election weekend (but do stay away as I'd like Adelita's all to myself this saturday...) :)

Pumphernickel
06-29-06, 15:02
Sorrry guys this is going to be a little long winded but it took me a couple of years to get the info I am fairly certain is accurate. By the way, thouhg I dont' usualy admiti it, I am 50 some years old, grew up in La, have been going to Mexico since I was 17 and not to sound too arrrogont but have seen more of Meico than anyy native I'v run into. My longest trip was a solo dowm to Oxaca and back (about 2500 - 3000 miles each way in an old "64 bug, - can't remember -iitwas 25 years ago,. Iv'e alos driven the Baja and been to just about every other touist trap you can name Like i said , not trying to blow my own horn but I have had much experience wirh threir "customs".

Firs of all US scripts by law are not valid down there. Perhaps the Farmacias will accept them, Iv' never tried. But my experiancne has been that if you have a US script have it filled in the US. I usa COSTCO and have found their prices to be about 25 to 30% less than what I pay in TJ. Why waste the money on Gas, nerves, et, at.
Trying to friend a "gingo" friendly Farmacia is not only stupid but a waste of time and money (believe me - been thre done that). They tack on the Dr,s fee and you'r walking around with illegal drugswich can land you in a TJ prison for many moons.besides that, you're smuggling illegal drugs back into the US wich can get to into some heavy trouble here!

I've found the easiest and safest way to get them is to go to a reputable Farmacie and tell them of course you,rre from out of town (duh) and ask the for a Dr. rcomenationn. They'll give you one usually a street or two away (they) want the bus too (I use Farmacia Internatinanal at 3rd and Rvolution - If anyone watns a couple of Dr. names addresse etc. You can PM me at Jackson's other site USASexGuide.info - I'm omly a low life regular member on this board and don't have tht "privledge" should be able to PM at his other site USAsxguide.info. No offense Jackson. You probably earn less than you deserve.

Anyaway, The Dr. will ask you a few simple qestions, usually charge you about $30 or so. They make 3 copies. One for their records, one for the Farmacia and the third for your records in case th Policia stop you, you are legal (though this doesn't mean squat in Mexico) Yet one national who seemed he know what he was talking about told me the best approach if this happens is to not show any sign of fear or weaknes, the cops dowm there aren't stupid and don't wmt to waste ther time and know that there are too many idiots on the street to waste their time wiith someone who acts like they know what they are doing.

My Dr. on the other hand brlives it's easier to pay "la gripa" Get their badge # and report them to the US consolate ASAP. The decision depends on you and your frme of mind at time.

One last thing of some interest. The hardest info to find was from the US side soI finally stopped (aftre I crossed th border) I polity asked the what the US policy was abuot birnging back scripts without a US Dr, presciption. I used the line that I was going to have some dental work down there and woud need some drugs and wanted to play it bty the book. They kept putting me off (don't want to ginve out that info - hell try checking their webiste or giving them a call and you'll get no info) Anyway after politely grilling for 5 or 10 minute they finaly told me tht any perscrption that was legal in the US was also legal if perscribed by Mexica Dr, and you had the paperwork.

Since then when I come across an if they ask if i ha any thing to decare (Which they only do about 50% of the time, I sat tht I have 'a presciption for personal use'. I've hear they can send you to secondary wich is no big deak cause you're legal but thry have always let me pass righy on through.

Sorry, told you it would bee long winded, but hopeit has helped some of you out,
If any body has any other info or can correct any info I' attempted to relay.

Thanks for youir time. My next report will be on my trip to TJ last Tues. and will be a lot more fun t read, Adelita's was great - there really ia close to a 1 to 1 ratio (Girls to guys) insted of the weekend 10 to and most of them were really hot, SW''s were out there too many of them the usual pglets but some really hot onrs that looked boares-d an ready to baragain.

What I really had fun with where some drunkenf Gingas, They really like to let the hair down on theat side of the border . Got to find out where to meet some more othem! Any info would be welcomed. Enjoy!

Pump

Member #4450
06-29-06, 21:01
The truth is you don't need any mexican scripts, just buy a small 90 days supply, and don't buy any drugs that can be use recreational, like vicodin, antideprasants, valiums, xanax, etc, these drugs can get you in trouble with or without a prescription, just don't do it, they know what are the drugs for ,and a mexican script wont save your ass from going to jail, TJ cops don't care if you got them legal or not, they're corrupted and they just need an excuse to clean your wallet!

If you need cheap medicine buy only drugs that are for basic use like medicine for hypertension, diabetes, allergies etc, and only in small amounts, all the other hard drugs you're taking a risk in tj and at the line, always take an empty medicine bottle with you with you name on it, so you can show the LE that you need that drug , and better yet fill you empty bottle with same medicine, so this way you can double the amount without problems.

I never was asked for a prescription in any TJ pharmacies, so there's no rules enforced, they just want your $$ for a worthless piece of paper, that wont garantee you anything, the laws in Mexico are a joke, you got NO RIGHTS, it's not the USA , so the best way to save your ass in TJ is be polite, respectfull, and give them a tip if they ask for one to keep the cops happy , if you start acting like an idiot, or threating them with whatever legal B.S, you just getting deeper in the shit!

Reinaldo
06-30-06, 05:58
Dunno, but all I know is that TJ will be shut down on Sunday

Tijuana Mayor Jorge Hank Rhon has confirmed that bars will be open as usual this weekend. As I posted previously the state and federal electoral laws were changed to permit alcohol sales over election weekend.

Plasma Spray
07-04-06, 10:07
Haven't been to TJ of late. Is a passport now the standard?

I used to just flash my driver's license and am through.

Thanks.

ps

John Rain
07-04-06, 17:09
Just wanted to post a confirmation here. I went to TJ on Election Day, Sunday, July 2 and stayed the whole night. Everything was open, it was completely business as normal in Zona Norte and on Revolución. There is no more Ley Seca (Dry Law) for Tijuana even for this national presidential election.

The crowds were espescially light in Zona Norte, I suppose some mongers stayed away thinking it was closed.

Roguesta
07-04-06, 17:56
Plasma,

You don't need a passport. You may need one at the end of '07, but I don't think that it will ever happen. Every so often, you'll get a border guard saying that you have to prove your citizenship, and that a driver's license does not do this. If you stand your ground, and say that passports are not required yet, they'll back down.

Plasma Spray
07-07-06, 11:31
Heading over there this weekend. Maybe I'll see some of you guys there.

PS

Firedsup
07-07-06, 15:10
A law was passed in for jan1, 2006, that passport was needed, but due to complications, and misunderstanding they have allowed you to come back with a little hassle.

But as of jan 1, 2007 these laws will be strictly enforced, get a passport, fairly cheapand do not get hassled it is the easiest thing to do.

Seems like a pain but what the hell.

Conejito
07-08-06, 01:29
The Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 requires that by January 1, 2008, travelers to and from the Caribbean, Bermuda, Panama, Mexico and Canada have a passport or other secure, accepted document to enter or re-enter the United States. In order to facilitate the implementation of this requirement, the Administration is proposing to complete it in phases following a proposed timeline, which will be published in the Federal Register in the near future.

In the proposed implementation plan, which is subject to a period of initial public comment, the Initiative will be rolled out in phases, providing as much advance notice as possible to the affected public to enable them to meet the terms of the new guidelines. The proposed timeline will be as follows:

* December 31, 2006 - Requirement applied to all air and sea travel to or from Canada, Mexico, Central and South America, the Caribbean, and Bermuda.

* December 31, 2007 - Requirement extended to all land border crossings as well as air and sea travel.

This is a change from prior travel requirements and will affect all United States citizens entering the United States from countries within the Western Hemisphere who do not currently possess valid passports. This new requirement will also affect certain foreign nationals who currently are not required to present a passport to travel to the United States. Most Canadian citizens, citizens of the British Overseas Territory of Bermuda, and to a lesser degree, Mexican citizens will be affected by the implementation of this requirement.

Plasma Spray
07-08-06, 05:26
When having fun in TJ, do you guys pay in Pesos or dollars? What about hotels?

Thanks.

PS

Crash Helmet
07-08-06, 23:49
when having fun in tj, do you guys pay in pesos or dollars? what about hotels?pesos or dollars, it doesn't matter. just remember that you never want to pay the askinig price. man-up and play hardball when it comes to negotiating or else you'll be branded a wimp. and that's no way to start a 30 or 60 minute relationship, trust me.

be it a hooker or a taxi-cab driver, never give anyone the chance to slap the "dumb tourist" label on your head. nothing wrong with being a tourist. it's the "dumb" part that'll cost you extra money. (or worse, if you're around the wrong people.)

if you give them an inch, they'll take a mile and all of that and then some, ya know what i mean? just keep in mind that a few of the ab putas are known for their boxing skills when they engage a fellow puta in a catfight.

it's always best to be a subtle ball buster (or panocha disciplinarian) than a wimp. be sure to always temper your manhood with distinct, incremental doses of kindness. think of yourself as a baseball pitcher when negotiating with a puta. one with a blazing fastball that scares the beejeezus out of everyone. and an off speed pitch that keeps the batter, or in this case the chica, slightly bewildered but yet always respectful.

if an ab/cc chica wants 60 bucks hold firm at 40 or 50 bucks. walk away if she doesn't give in. you have what she has a desperate need for: money. money for rent, money for food, money to feed her 2 little kids.

plus there are always other girls just a few feet away who are just as hungry for your dollar. this theory is reinforced on days when the demand is equal or less than the supply.

on that note, try not to monger on a friday, saturday, or sunday night. daytime is where you'll find the demand is less for the services of a chica then there is a supply of drunken horndogs ready to reach for their wallet.

ab has a hotel for you and your girl right upstairs. it's 11 bucks for a room.

Bolthead
07-09-06, 06:39
Started my night off at home with a shower and some alcohol. Drinking while getting ready after my shower gave me a nice buzz.

headed off the the ATM, and a quick stop at the gas station to break my 20 (need those smaller bills for the taxi) and a red bull.

im already in San Diego, so its just down the 805 to the border. I save the red bull until arriving at the border. I park in the 7 dollar lot right off the freeway. Im ready to start my solo trip.

I walk through the border to the Taxi stand. I dont mind the 5 dollar charge, even though I hear there is a cheaper taxi company somewhere. I tell the man 'Adelitas' and we are off. He pulls right up to ABs and I go in and order a beer.

I walk around, hit the bathroom, finish my beer (3.50 + .50 for tip) slowly, and take in the sights. A decent strip show is going on, but nothing terrific. The girls were spread out and 'hottie central' wasnt as crowded with chicks as it normally is. I suppose its about 10:30pm at this point. Its full of people as normal on a friday night. I get a few looks from girls hoping I take them, but thats not my plan. I knew already I wanted to go cheap and bang a streetwalker. This was just a warm-up.

I walked out of ABs after a while, and head over to Chicago, where I grab another beer. Best selection of chicks I have seen at Chicagos, but this was only my second time there. 3 bucks for a beer here. I stand over to the side, admire and drink. I finish my beer and head out.

Up next is Miami, cuz I hadnt been there yet. Place sucks. More for locals I guess. Plenty of porkers here, but if thats your thing - this is your place. Miami will sell you a beer before you get in to the place (its the cover charge). I had no problems paying the 3 bucks for a cool one because that all I came there for. I sit in a booth and just kinda chill for a minute. This lady comes right up to me and tells me 50 for her and her friend, sucky fucky, lesbian, everything. Great deal, except this chick was a little heavy and her friend was even worse. I say 'no thanks, I'm just here to drink'. I then notice that Miami Bar and Hong Kong are connected...there is a door than allows access to both places. I head over to HKs because there are like 3 girls stripping. I finish my beer and watch the show. At this point, im pretty drunk and ready to bang.

I'm out HKs and on to the alley. I do a full walk around of the block, and get plenty of "chtt chtt" (the girls make this sound to attract you), and they even have some peice of rubber that they snap in their hands as you walk by. Again, this little sound is meant to attract you over to them. They dont ever really leave the wall they are standing at. You have to go up to them. There seems to be a difference of the two sides of the alley street - one has the nicer lookin chicks, the other side has the uglier ones. A couple of chicks did however grab my shirt and pretty aggresively tried to hook up. I always say no because I prefer to do my own shopping, instead of being sold to. On my second circle of the block, i pick a smaller chick with nice makeup, a nice ass and skinny legs.

I ask her how much, she say 20 for her, 6 for the room. DEAL! I agree and we head to the room, making small talk but nothing serious. She asks my name and where Im from. I ask hers. Just basic politeness.

The room is fine - this was my second street girl ever and I dont pay attention to the hotel. I just want to bang! I undress but she keeps her top on (its cheaper this way...if u want her naked, sin ropa costs more). she helps me get hard, puts the condom on, a dab of KY, and its off to the races.

Im fucking the shit out of her, and like to go chest-to-chest missionary because I get good pentration that way. I was often tempted to kiss her chest and neck but she says something in spanish that basically means no. thats cool, i dont mind it. I just breathe on her hot and heavy and continue to bang away. she was nice and tight and it was fun. I bust and make sure to take my pants in with me to the bathroom. Last time the streetgirl I was with went in my pockets and took my condom but actually left my wallet and money. This time, im not risking anything.

I drees, thank her and head out of the hotel. As soon as I hit the corner, this chick grabs my arm and is practically beggin me to let her suck my dick. Obviously i just finished and managed to get away from this desperate lady.

I head back to the front of ABs and signal a white taxi. He seems to be heading over to me but a Policia guy flashes the driver in the faces with his flashlight and signals for him to keep moving. the Policia guy asks me nicely if I need a taxi. I kinda picked up on what happened here, but I politely tell him yes, thank you. He brings me over to a yellow cab. I'm guessin the Policia has a pact with the more expensive taxi company, but i didnt really care. I reach the border, pay the driver his 5, and walk back to my car and head home. (first to jack-in-the-box tho!)

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.

Roguesta
07-09-06, 07:20
You'll do better if you pay in pesos. Let's say a street girl asks for $20.00. She will accept 200 pesos or the $20.00. But, if you give her $20.00, you'll be giving her more than 220 pesos (at the current exchange rate). It won't matter too much when buying drinks in bars because they usually adjust their price according to current rate.

Don't ask for change (from pesos to dollars) so that you can tip the dancers. It won't work in your favor (at least, it doesn't at HK)

Taiko
07-10-06, 10:20
Gents,

Will have approx 4 days dead time in the TJ area in August. On my first, and last, visit in April I paid a couple visits to one of the Team Juanita ladies and was thoroughly impressed. (Mia, in case you're wondering). I would like to do the same again but for a weekend get-away, 1 or 2 nights, possibly to a resort?

Am sorry to say I haven't been exposed to, therefore speak, no Spanish. Have done my share of seed sewing in other parts, but only the 2 trips to TJ last April.

Any pointers on where I should look, and how much to expect to pay? Recommendations by name and reputation would be great.

Would happily return to Mia, but don't know if she's available for days at a time, and expect it would be quite expensive. Will likley ask anyway.

Thanks in Advance,

T.

Crash Helmet
07-10-06, 19:04
Gents,

Will have approx 4 days dead time in the TJ area in August. On my first, and last, visit in April I paid a couple visits to one of the Team Juanita ladies and was thoroughly impressed. (Mia, in case you're wondering). I would like to do the same again but for a weekend get-away, 1 or 2 nights, possibly to a resort?

Am sorry to say I haven't been exposed to, therefore speak, no Spanish. Have done my share of seed sewing in other parts, but only the 2 trips to TJ last April.

Any pointers on where I should look, and how much to expect to pay?

Recommendations by name and reputation would be great.

Would happily return to Mia, but don't know if she's available for days at a time, and expect it would be quite expensive. Will likley ask anyway.

Thanks in Advance,
T.I'm a short timer, so I don't have much info to offer. I do know that snagging a girl for two whole nights like you could in Thailand would be hard to do in TJ. Some bar girls would be very leery in accepting an offer like the one you have in mind.

For one, she doesn't know you and thus would be a little hesitant. Two, the demand for her services far exceeds the supply, meaning she could make more money doing multiple short times than she could spending two days and two nights alone with you.

A TLN (an all-nighter) is not out of the question.

If you're repeating with a bar girl that is a favorita, you could get her for as low as 100 bucks. But that is a best case scenario, rare, and only with a guy she knows well, has a good feel for, at the end of her workshift. Obviously, as a one time visitor to TJ, you're not that guy.

You could always go that route anyway and alot of guys do.

They'll wait till the girls shift is about to end and then they make their pitch for a TLN. Most of the guys who are successful at that are the ones who play in the Zona Norte on a regular basis and one who the girl can readily identify. We're talking major facial recognition. Think about that for a moment. They will be your competition. And they're the ones you'll have to beat.

Suffice to say that someone like you will need to have all the stars aligned in order to accomplish your mission. And you'd better have a backup plan in case you're a lousy salesman. That's not to say that a newbie like yourself will fail at this. You might succeed. You're just going to have to weigh the odds beforehand and have a fail-safe plan in place.

You're best bet would be to go with an agency girl, though it will get expensive as you're paying for both the girl and the agencies prorprietor.

Report back and let us all know what the agencies are charging for a TLN and a two day/two nighter.

Taiko
07-11-06, 00:13
Thanks Crash. I will let you know what the agencies say. Guess I'll resign myself to the standard fair.

T.

Firedsup
07-11-06, 22:07
As a long time monger of tj, I have to say exellent report. I have often done this although, by the time I have my chica, drink and walk around. I am to damm tired, and drunk. Get taxi go to hotel Zaragoza, where by the way is chica friendly.

You can park your car here and they have 2 or 3 security guards there watching.

Any way fellows good luck good hunting

Crash Helmet
07-12-06, 06:19
Thanks Crash. I will let you know what the agencies say. Guess I'll resign myself to the standard fair.

T.Cancel that request for the agency rate inquirement, Taiko.

I just got ahold of a few TJ escort agency links. I haven't checked them all out extensively, but one agency does list their rates. Maybe all of them do, I don't know. I can shed a little light on them, but at the present, time doesn't permit me to delve into the matter.

You should know that of the three, two I know for certain are run by Americans who went down there and set up shop. The third one I'm not so sure about.

American run escort services in TJ is a very recent development when you consider how many years it's been since Adam and Eve got together. I surmise the oldest American run escort agency is right around 4 years old or so.

And I'm defining an American run escort agency as follows:

1) It's run by an American, obviously

2) It has a full stable of girls. "Full" would be defined as right around 10 or more

3) It has a communication system set up where you have virtual direct access, either by phone or email

4) They advertise globally, so businessmen in all around the world can plan their next mongering move when they come to TJ

5) They have a web-site. Having a web-site enables them to meet requirement #4

In this one web-site, I believe one owner said he's had his agency up and running for 10 years. Now either I didn't read that right, which is possible, or he's fibbing about the ten year history.

I know for a fact that his web-site is not that old, and hey, where am I going with this because in the big scheme of things it really doesn't matter. Salesmen tend to embellish things when they're going for the gold, as we all know.

I have zero experience with these girls, so everyone out there is on their own. As usual, YMMV, which always hammers home the true reality of it all. Especially after your head stops spinning from having spent a whole hell of alot of time considering the never ending list of information to consider.

http://teamjuanitaonline.com/

http://www.bestescortstijuana.com/

http://www.cumintj.com/

Blue Nose
07-14-06, 02:52
Gents,

Will have approx 4 days dead time in the TJ area in August. On my first, and last, visit in April I paid a couple visits to one of the Team Juanita ladies and was thoroughly impressed. (Mia, in case you're wondering). I would like to do the same again but for a weekend get-away, 1 or 2 nights, possibly to a resort?

Taiko - I think you are better off looking for a TLN session in and around TJ rather than a stay in a resort. First off, there are no "resorts" in the immediate area around the zone. The closest one is about 25 miles away in Rosarito, and few chicas would be willing to venture that far with a guy they just met (although maybe some from the escort services might).

Your best bet is to go for a TLN session. See my post from mid-May on this forum for my techniques on how to get a TLN girl. This works for me, but is by no means the only way to go about it. If you use this approach, you will pay no more than about $140 for the whole night with a mid-level girl (7-7.5). If you want a higher quality girl you will pay more. If your session is good the first night, and you have a good connection with the girl, there is the possibility that she might go somewhere with you the second night.

If you do use an escort service, please post a report as I am hearing good things about them, but very few actual TRs.

Do your research on this forum before you go, have fun and be safe.

Blue Nose

KC Questor
07-16-06, 01:50
Both cumintj and Team Juanita quoted me no discount at all for multiple hours. The base rate is $150 per hour, so TLN (12 hours) was quoted $1800 and a 24-hour date was $3600.

I am not sure how many of these agencies are related. Many of them have the same girls available. For example, Tania (on Team Juanita) and Itzel (cumintj) have been reported to do an excellent two-girl special.

I just returned from a quick TJ trip. My report on my experience with cumintj is coming soon.

QuackUp
07-18-06, 02:42
I went down south this past Saturday. The good news is, the taxi drivers who park near the Mcdonalds when you go to the right to enter Tj, were asking for only $3.00 usd to go to centro. It's about time the greedy bastard came down. I guess the taxi libres are having an affect on them.

The bad news, it was so crowded, especially in a/b, many girls were asking $70.00 usd. I don't usually go to a/b but I had a friend who loves it there. Not only is it crowded there, but it was so hot also. That day was not a buyers market. Because it was so hot, I stayed outside in the peanut gallery and timed some of the guys who went up. Average, about 20 minutes. I do admit, a/b still has the best looking girls on average.

We also went to t/b and l/c.. At t/b there were a few cuties but of course they were ocuppied. At l/c I was able to hook up with a very pretty girl named Melissa. Tall, slim with black hair. She said she has been there for two months.

We go upstairs and she goes to the bathroom. I take my clothes off anticipating the fun I will be having. She comes out and ask for the money first. I tell her I don't pay first, always at the end. She insist on the payment up front but me being stubborn and getting bad service when I did pay first, I told her no. She is probably the first girl in over a year to ask for the money first. Anyways I stood my ground, she stood hers, end of session without anything happening.

As we walk downstairs I ask the counter guy to give back the money. He says they don't do that anymore but if I get another girl, I would not be charged for the room. This is different from a couple of year ago when they did give the money back.

I went back to the bar, pick a girl who looked friendly and went upstairs. She didn't ask for the money up front. She wasn't bad, but wasn't great. Cbj and no kissing on the lips. I did nut, so she served her purpose. I gave her $600 pesos.

My friend took two hotties from a/b. Not sure about the names but he said one was good, the other was very mechanical.

Q

Country John
07-19-06, 19:44
I know the owner of http://teamjuanitaonline.com/ and he is straight up. (No, I am not the owner of the agency.) If you book through him you'll have a good time and you'll get your money's worth.

I know of no-one who will go to greater lengths to take care of a client and when you call, tell him that Country John referred you. Try to get a session with Dulce and try not to fall in love with her (I dare you).

Country John

Raiderman
07-19-06, 22:01
I Need Info On The Pueblo Amigo I Want To Do A Tln There But I Dont Know If They Let You Bring Girls To Your Room And Does Any Talent Hangout There Any And All Info Will Help.

Hi,

I sincerely appreciate your reports, but...

Would you please STOP capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports!

It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.

On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: Thank You!

Jackson

Taiko
07-19-06, 22:14
I know the owner of http://teamjuanitaonline.com/ and he is straight up. (No, I am not the owner of the agency.) If you book through him you'll have a good time and you'll get your money's worth.

I know of no-one who will go to greater lengths to take care of a client and when you call, tell him that Country John referred you. Try to get a session with Dulce and try not to fall in love with her (I dare you).

Country JohnI've had 2 experiences with Team Juanita. The agency support was awsome. I first went with Mia and it was a very good experience. When I went the second time I couldn't resist not going to see Mia again....and it was even better. As I contemplate my third trip, while Dulce is higly recommended and has great reviews, Mia is still very tempting! Just wish I could get her for a weekend.

Taiko

Reinaldo
07-20-06, 02:18
I Need Info On The Pueblo Amigo I Want To Do A Tln There But I Dont Know If They Let You Bring Girls To Your Room And Does Any Talent Hangout There Any And All Info Will Help.

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Hotel Pueblo Amigo is definitely chica friendly. It is afterall owned by Jorge Hank the current mayor of Tijuana.

Country John
07-20-06, 17:36
I Need Info On The Pueblo Amigo I Want To Do A Tln There But I Dont Know If They Let You Bring Girls To Your Room And Does Any Talent Hangout There Any And All Info Will Help.

Lots of talent next door in the plaza, but it's big money and it's mob saturated. Go in if you have money and are prepared to spend it.

There are no problems bringing a girl to the room. If you know in advance of the TLN arrangement, then register her at the desk. Yes, register her. There are several reasons for this.

1. The guy who works the desk at night might not be the same guy who checked you in.

2. Sure, Hank owns the place but if security wants to be a prick, they CAN send the girl away.

3. One night after a TLN I drove the girl back to the Zona and was stopped by the cops who "saw" her giving me oral sex in the car (illegal). It was bullshit of course and when I offered to have him come with me to the hotel to prove she was registered with me there and we were there all night, they had nowhere to go but the hole they came out of.

4. If she rips you off, or kills you in the room, the cops will have clues. (Go ahead, tell me this never happens.)

5. If she OD's in the room, registering her will help you if they think you did her in.

When you check in, register Mr. and Mrs. Whateveryournameis. Tell the desk that she is arriving later etc. You are in Mexico. Document your situation and then shred it when you cross Stateside if you want to.

I understand that some will see this as over the top but you must remember that you are not in the USA and therefore your rights are very G*O*N*E./ It's up to YOU to protect yourself.

Not registering the girl is like opening the door to a stranger, of which there will be no record.

Country John

Conejito
07-21-06, 19:55
To Jackson:

The 'first letter capitalized' problem indicates that the poster's caps lock key was on. Something on the forum causes only the first letter of each word to be capitalized.

I have seen this problem before. It is definitely not a guy sitting there trying to capitalize every word, lol...

I Luv Puss
07-24-06, 03:34
Hello all,

I'm from Houston, TX. I'm planning a trip to TJ during labor day weekend. Can someone give me or recommand a hotel near the boarder so I can look it up in google map and get the direction? Perfer a hotel or motel with wireless internet access

Thanks

Bend It
07-24-06, 23:03
I'm heading back to TJ! Yesssssss!

Any up to date info on the border, especially on whether I need a passport?!? Thanks,

Bend It

Csiense
07-25-06, 08:54
I went last week. Just flashed my driver's license and was on my way. They scanned it though. So I guess its lucky that I don't have anyone looking for me at the moment.

I suggest you walk over, the traffic on the way out was crazy and it was only a Tuesday.

Saw a stunner in LC who offered $50 for half an hour, but I was already heading out. May be worth checking out though.

Good luck.

Firedsup
07-27-06, 03:15
From the information I recieved the passport rules were changed this year Jan 1. But with althe confusion and uproar, the are very leinent on this rule until Jan 1, 2007, so fellow mongers, get your passports now, it takes about 3 weeks unless you pay for a quickie, 3 days and about $150.

Happy hunting guys

Bend It
07-27-06, 15:53
I went last week. Just flashed my driver's license and was on my way. They scanned it though. So I guess its lucky that I don't have anyone looking for me at the moment.

I suggest you walk over, the traffic on the way out was crazy and it was only a Tuesday.

Saw a stunner in LC who offered $50 for half an hour, but I was already heading out. May be worth checking out though.

Good luck.

Thanks for the info!

Rider Jay
07-29-06, 04:33
I don't think they have internet but I stay at the San Ysidro Travel Lodge. For around $60 per day it's at least clean. I can hang out and party in TJ and after I cross back to the US I can walk back to my room. This way I don't have to park at the border and worry about a DUI driving back to a hotel. If your looking for something nicer, Google hotels in the San Ysidro area and check their hotel ratings, their distance to the border, and their internet access. You can drive back to your hotel after you cross back over or take one of the cabs that are always waiting on the US side.

If you want to stay in TJ both the Camino Reale and the Hotel Pueblo Amigo are very nice hotels and sometimes you can get a good deal on priceline. Hotel Pueblo Amigo also has some very nice nightlife in the mall next store. Stay away from the overpriced massage parlor in that mall but if you speak spanish, and have some pretty good game, you might do ok with one of the local girls. I don't know if either have internet because everytime I plan a trip I do my internet homework before I get there and Monger during my time in the area.

Speaking of mongering, Houston is one of my favorites US spots to spend a few days. It's one of the last places over here that's still wide open.

Be Safe, Rider Jay


Hello all,

I'm from Houston, TX. I'm planning a trip to TJ during labor day weekend. Can someone give me or recommand a hotel near the boarder so I can look it up in google map and get the direction? Perfer a hotel or motel with wireless internet access

Thanks

Rider Jay
07-29-06, 06:31
I arrived in TJ about 8pm a week ago Tuesday. I never go midweek so I didn't know what to expect. I was pleasantly surprised. Even though there wasn't as many girls on the street or in the clubs like Chicago or Adelitas, the ratio of girls to mongers was much better then it is on the weekend. Also some of the starting prices were lower then they are on weekends and I'm not talking about the "suky, fuky $5" pitch that when you respond you find it's just the price for the room, but a lot of the girls were ready to give full service for $20. Of course the real hot ones still asked for the moon but I had no trouble getting my suky, fuky, sin ropa, two positions for $30 plus the room from 2 very young and pretty SW's during the course of the night.

I guess it finally had to happen. I was harassed by the TJ police. I know I’ve said in the past that if you mind your own business, don’t look for trouble, and keep a low profile you’ll never have a problem with the local police. That’s exactly what I was doing when a squad car that was shaking down some local street people called me over. The first thing he asked me was if I spoke Spanish. When I told him no he asked in perfect English if I had any drugs on me and I responded with a firm no. I assure you I don’t fit the drug profile. Whenever I’m in TJ, I never wear expensive clothes or jewelry because I don’t want to invite an opportunity for a thief. I wear jeans, clean tennis shoes because of all the walking I do, and a nice casual shirt. He then asked me what I was doing in TJ. I told him I was a tourist and was just enjoying their fine night life. He made me wait until he was done searching the street people that he was already working on and then searched me. I was expecting him to try to plant something on me or try anything to get some money from me but that didn’t seem to be his motive. When he got into my pocket and reached my BR he made me take out my money and put it on the car's hood. He was purposely making an effort not to handle the money himself. He made me place it right in front of where I was standing. I had about 3 hundred in 10s and 20s on me and probably would have given him about $20 but I was prepared to make him take me to his captain if he shot for any more. He didn’t. When he saw I had nothing illegal on me (he even made me lift up my pant legs so he could check my shoes and socks) he then rudely told me to go home. It took all I had not to tell him that if I went home I couldn’t spend my money in his dirty city, spreading it around his bars and restaurants. That it was people like me that his economy depended on and if he had any common sense he would spend his time stopping real crime and leave the tourists alone. I didn’t say any of that. I just followed some of my old rules that focused on keeping a low profile. I stopped into a local bar and had a few beers. I then took a few laps until I found a SW that appealed to me, got laid, and then took a cab back to the border. I had a great time in spite of the prick cop and an even better one the next day. Because this post is already to long winded, I’ll write about it in my next post.

Be Safe, Rider Jay

Ho Down Man
07-30-06, 07:28
Hey guys,

Is anyone going down to TJ tomorrow? If so, do you want to hook up at the border? I am a newbie to the TJ scene and would like someone with experience to show me the way to the light. First couple of rounds on me.

PM me if you are going and interested.

Ho Man

No Zanax
07-30-06, 12:20
Just visited on 7/26 after a long absence... things have changed! I guess Adelita's is always changing their layout. Spent some time there, but it seems like more girls are adopting the 'hottie central girl' attitude. They just stand around and wait for a proposition. I remember being approached on my previous visits, but apart from a couple of not-so-good-looking providers making the rounds, the women there just stood around.

So I went to Hong Kong and watched the strip shows. I saw they had remodeled as well, adding a third floor where the booths now were. Ended up spending some time with a really petite chica, can't remember her name other than it started with F, and sounded roughly like fucka, or something like that. Anyway, it was by far the most social experience I've had in TJ. It was a nice change, if not more expensive. But that was what I was looking for this time. When we did get a room, it was more of a GFE than I've experienced before in TJ.

After that, I ended up trying one of the girls on the street outside of HK, even though my past experience on the street there wasn't too good. I don't know the name of the street, I just think of it as the alley-even though it isn't- but anyway, her name was Anjelica, a little chubby with glasses, quoted me $20 for CBJ, and reluctantly agreed to $25 for BBBJ/20 min, and I have to say, she delivered a pretty good one. Of course her mouth got tired, but she sucked the sack while i finished myself off. I know $25 or even $20 is more than I've seen posted here before for service off the street, but it just seems my negotiating skills aren't any good(at all) down there. Maybe it would help if I learned some spanish. Anyway, I guess I'll be having to return in a month or so. The petite chica at HK left quite an impression on me. Best time there I've had yet.

Keep it Cheap
No Z

California Guy
07-30-06, 22:12
Just visited on 7/26 after a long absence... things have changed! I guess Adelita's is always changing their layout. Spent some time there, but it seems like more girls are adopting the 'hottie central girl' attitude. They just stand around and wait for a proposition. I remember being approached on my previous visits, but apart from a couple of not-so-good-looking providers making the rounds, the women there just stood around.

So I went to Hong Kong and watched the strip shows. I saw they had remodeled as well, adding a third floor where the booths now were. Ended up spending some time with a really petite chica, can't remember her name other than it started with F, and sounded roughly like fucka, or something like that. Anyway, it was by far the most social experience I've had in TJ. It was a nice change, if not more expensive. But that was what I was looking for this time. When we did get a room, it was more of a GFE than I've experienced before in TJ.

After that, I ended up trying one of the girls on the street outside of HK, even though my past experience on the street there wasn't too good. I don't know the name of the street, I just think of it as the alley-even though it isn't- but anyway, her name was Anjelica, a little chubby with glasses, quoted me $20 for CBJ, and reluctantly agreed to $25 for BBBJ/20 min, and I have to say, she delivered a pretty good one. Of course her mouth got tired, but she sucked the sack while i finished myself off. I know $25 or even $20 is more than I've seen posted here before for service off the street, but it just seems my negotiating skills aren't any good(at all) down there. Maybe it would help if I learned some spanish. Anyway, I guess I'll be having to return in a month or so. The petite chica at HK left quite an impression on me. Best time there I've had yet.

Keep it Cheap
No Z

For some of the reasons you mention above I havent been down in 3-4 months, if not longer. I mean the girls aren't that hot but many act like they are perfect and want more than people should pay. Even the sw's have attitudes and normally just lay there like you are banging the pillow. I am not saying you can't have a fun time but after the lame experiences I have almost completely given up. I may head down to get some cheap medication soon and will check it out but otherwise I will save my money and travel. If others do the same things would change but it won't happen.

Country John
07-31-06, 19:09
Everyone who reads the board(s) knows about corruption in TJPD. It should come as no surprise to anyone that you could be stopped and shaken down. Even pedestrians crossing back encounter problems.

It is illegal to drive while intoxicated in Mexico. It's also illegal to do so in the USA. It's illegal to drive without wearing a seatbelt or while talking on your cel phone in TJ.

When you break the law in Mexico, you are turning control over to the cop who stops you. He has the power to decide if your stop will be a short one or a long one. His decision will be determined by how much exposure you give him.

Are you drinking? BOINK! Do you have an open container in the car? BOINK!
D you have illegal drugs? BOINK! Your paperwork is not in order? BOINK!

You see, it all depends on your situation when you are stopped.

Now the cop can follow the "letter of the law" and have your vehicle towed and impounded, you can spend the night in the tank etc. etc. If you have a weapon (gun) or even ammo, you go directly to federal prison. For a long long time.

IN exchange for the officer giving you special consideration (given the situation you are in) you can provide the officer with special consideration in the form of cash that suppliments his very low income. The alternatives are not attractive at all considering the cost of the tow, storage, impound fees etc.

In Mexico, for a small sum (usuall between $20 and $100) you can walk from what otherwise would be a very difficult situation. I guaranfuckingtee you that you would not walk if you were stopped Stateside. Costs to fix a problem like this could reach into the thousands.

So do yourself a favor. Understand what you are dealing with. If you are driving while intoxicated then that's a dangerous situation and the cop has the right to deprive you of your freedom if he wants to. You should be grateful that you paid the fine on the street. Depending on your level of assholeness, the fine could be much much more.

I drive in Mexico a LOT. I had one problem with my other car (I keep an extra car in TJ for the low profile) with no plates, no registration, my girlfriend was driving, she has no license, we were both drinking etc but when we were grabbed by the cops, we treated them with respect and paid $18.25 in cash to the cop who then let us go.

I had $300.00 in the car but told him it was all I had.

When in your vehicle, keep $40 in your pocket and stash the rest. Tell the cop it's all you have because you spent all your money on the girls. They'll understand that. That's over $400 pesos, probably half a weeks pay. They'll take it.

If you are a class "A" asshole, then you'll get hit a bit harder including a police escort to the ATM machine.

Call it what you will. We flash and bling all over the place in TJ. Mexicans think we have the money so what's the problem? Keep a few bucks for morditas. And remember that when you're handing a few bucks over to the cops because YOU got busted for no seat belt, drunk driving, drugs or open container you are getting of a lot easier than you would if you pulled that shit Stateside.

I'm not defending the corruption of TJPD, I am merely giving you a bit more insight so you might handle yourself differently next time out.

Telling a TJ cop that you had only one beer while in TJ is foolish. Right off the bat he knows you are lying to him so then he is thinking "what else is this estupido gringo lying about?"

Tell him the truth. "Yeah officer, I had about 8 beers earlier in the day so I had to wait several hours before driving home, that's why I am here so late." Now THAT is more like it. And as long as you are not visibly intoxicated and able to handle yourself you should be OK.

Don't expect any cop (TJ or Stateside) to go easy if you are falling down drunk and driving a 4000 pound vehicle on their city streets.

"Common sense" should be self evident. Everyone lies to the cops. "What were you doing in the Zona?" Ans: "I was having some beer with some friends."

REal answer: "I was having sex with girls." Now you could say that you were "Chasing the girls." The bottom line is don't look like a bullshitter. These guys might be corrupt but they are not stupid. Don't give them a reason to dig deeper, toss your vehicle or give you a hard time because you are insulting their intelligence by insisting that you had only ONE fucking beer in Tijuana Mexico. 'Cmon.

Be Safe And Be Nice
Country John

Crash Helmet
07-31-06, 19:29
For some of the reasons you mention above I havent been down in 3-4 months, if not longer. I mean the girls aren't that hot but many act like they are perfect and want more than people should pay. Even the sw's have attitudes and normally just lay there like you are banging the pillow. I am not saying you can't have a fun time but after the lame experiences I have almost completely given up. I may head down to get some cheap medication soon and will check it out but otherwise I will save my money and travel. If others do the same things would change but it won't happen.SW's are notorious for lackluster performance. So I understand where you're coming from. But as far as the bargirls are concerned, what day and time are you shopping? If you can, try going during the weekday in the daylight hours for a more favorable market condition.

Theguyed
08-01-06, 15:51
This report you have written is really good advice and well written thanks.


Everyone who reads the board(s) knows about corruption in TJPD. It should come as no surprise to anyone that you could be stopped and shaken down. Even pedestrians crossing back encounter problems.

It is illegal to drive while intoxicated in Mexico. It's also illegal to do so in the USA. It's illegal to drive without wearing a seatbelt or while talking on your cel phone in TJ.

When you break the law in Mexico, you are turning control over to the cop who stops you. He has the power to decide if your stop will be a short one or a long one. His decision will be determined by how much exposure you give him.

Are you drinking? BOINK! Do you have an open container in the car? BOINK!
D you have illegal drugs? BOINK! Your paperwork is not in order? BOINK!

You see, it all depends on your situation when you are stopped.

Now the cop can follow the "letter of the law" and have your vehicle towed and impounded, you can spend the night in the tank etc. etc. If you have a weapon (gun) or even ammo, you go directly to federal prison. For a long long time.

IN exchange for the officer giving you special consideration (given the situation you are in) you can provide the officer with special consideration in the form of cash that suppliments his very low income. The alternatives are not attractive at all considering the cost of the tow, storage, impound fees etc.

In Mexico, for a small sum (usuall between $20 and $100) you can walk from what otherwise would be a very difficult situation. I guaranfuckingtee you that you would not walk if you were stopped Stateside. Costs to fix a problem like this could reach into the thousands.

So do yourself a favor. Understand what you are dealing with. If you are driving while intoxicated then that's a dangerous situation and the cop has the right to deprive you of your freedom if he wants to. You should be grateful that you paid the fine on the street. Depending on your level of assholeness, the fine could be much much more.

I drive in Mexico a LOT. I had one problem with my other car (I keep an extra car in TJ for the low profile) with no plates, no registration, my girlfriend was driving, she has no license, we were both drinking etc but when we were grabbed by the cops, we treated them with respect and paid $18.25 in cash to the cop who then let us go.

I had $300.00 in the car but told him it was all I had.

When in your vehicle, keep $40 in your pocket and stash the rest. Tell the cop it's all you have because you spent all your money on the girls. They'll understand that. That's over $400 pesos, probably half a weeks pay. They'll take it.

If you are a class "A" asshole, then you'll get hit a bit harder including a police escort to the ATM machine.

Call it what you will. We flash and bling all over the place in TJ. Mexicans think we have the money so what's the problem? Keep a few bucks for morditas. And remember that when you're handing a few bucks over to the cops because YOU got busted for no seat belt, drunk driving, drugs or open container you are getting of a lot easier than you would if you pulled that shit Stateside.

I'm not defending the corruption of TJPD, I am merely giving you a bit more insight so you might handle yourself differently next time out.

Telling a TJ cop that you had only one beer while in TJ is foolish. Right off the bat he knows you are lying to him so then he is thinking "what else is this estupido gringo lying about?"

Tell him the truth. "Yeah officer, I had about 8 beers earlier in the day so I had to wait several hours before driving home, that's why I am here so late." Now THAT is more like it. And as long as you are not visibly intoxicated and able to handle yourself you should be OK.

Don't expect any cop (TJ or Stateside) to go easy if you are falling down drunk and driving a 4000 pound vehicle on their city streets.

"Common sense" should be self evident. Everyone lies to the cops. "What were you doing in the Zona?" Ans: "I was having some beer with some friends."

REal answer: "I was having sex with girls." Now you could say that you were "Chasing the girls." The bottom line is don't look like a bullshitter. These guys might be corrupt but they are not stupid. Don't give them a reason to dig deeper, toss your vehicle or give you a hard time because you are insulting their intelligence by insisting that you had only ONE fucking beer in Tijuana Mexico. 'Cmon.

Be Safe And Be Nice

Country John

AbleGray
08-01-06, 17:56
These boards have been really informative. Took a weekday trip to TJ. Parked in the $7 lot and crossed over in the afternoon. Spent $5 for an immediate Yellow cab to Adelitas.

On the Mexico side, before the 2nd set of turnstiles, a 6'1" 200 lb 28 yo high school linebacker type asked me if I knew English. I said yes, but then realized it was a scam. I told him no, and continued walking to the turnstile. He followed, became abusive and made threats, but ultimately gave up. The guys was an American, the first of several, of varying ages who would try the "Do you know English" scam. Some of the guys were obvious drug users. I encountered several of them going through customs on the way back into the US.

Cialis is easily available for $13.10 for 20 mg, a really potent dosage. Just remember to eat and drink sufficiently during your stay. To find the Cialis, when crossing into Mexico, instead of going straight thru the turnstiles to the Yellow cabs, turn right following the locals through the other turnstiles. Go straight across the street to the pharmacy with multiple barkers. Yellow cabs and other cabs are available right outside the pharmacy.

On the drive in, two full size pickups with California plates were being stopped and searched by TJ police.

I went into Adelitas and quickly exited. I had a good time in the alley and at Hong Kong Bar. The alley girls standard were typically $20 for 1-2 positions for 20 minutes. I ended up spending $25-$30 + $0-5 tip. None of the alley girls rushed the time. None were PSE, but, at Adelitas, half the girls either rush you or are lousy. Rooms at the Cascades Hotel cost $6 with air conditioning. Cascades rooms and bathrooms were much cleaner than those at Adelitas hotel. In Adelitas favor, most of the Adelitas girls shower and clean up afterwards. For the alley girls, none used the shower, or cleaned up aggressively.

Hong Kong club had a variety of girls for many tastes, from young/stupid to DDG to skank to biker chick to mid-mileage to aerobics workout babe. Ladies drinks are $7. Drinks are $3.50, beers are 2 for 1 in the afternoon before some time. Does anyone know if bottled water can be had 2 for 1? What about choice of drink in the larger private rooms? I didn't get a price on that 2nd floor room, but did go for the 3rd floor booths for $20 for two songs + tip. The midweek, daytime songs were extended mixes. I didn't get all the extras that some have reported, but I'll just say the small booths are insane. One companion was a 20 yo aerobics/dancer type, another was a 10 body top dancer who had just finished her stage routine. Be generous with the HK women, they are awesome.

Hong Kong club has the same waiters and some of the same girls as Club Miami next door. There is an internal door between the two. Club Miami is opposite the bar behind the tinted windows. Two girls in HK that I talked to were available for FS, one definitely was not, though the prices were very high.

In the alley, Seguridad guys patrolled outside several of the businesses. A few Mexicano drug addict/drug runner types approached me with offers to find me girls, or just made abusive comments. You can figure out that I'm not 6'5" 250 lbs. Still, I felt safe. I caught a red/white taxi from the alley to the border for $4.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for directions for posting a link to a specific report.

Country John
08-02-06, 16:49
Good TR. Excellent first post. Sounds like you know what you're doing and are smart about it.

You're right, the linebacker guy has been around for a long time. At least a year. I had a long talk with him one night in the Zona and every word out of his mouth was BS. I even offered to drive him home to San Diego and arranged a meeting time but he was a no show. I didn't give him any money.

His favorite line is that he just got out of jail, his bud is still in there and he is trying to get his car out of the impound so he can go home.

He's been washing windshields, cleaning cars etc. I think the guy is wanted in the USA. One thing for sure, he is a large lad. You don;t know if he is high or not. He is desperado so be very careful how you handle him. I don;t think he's capable of an assault because he probably DOES have experience in the TJ Jail and it's not Disneyland. Just be careful.

Again, nice TR.

Be safe and be nice
Country John

Asiangreeklvr
08-04-06, 22:21
I wrote this on another site but since I frequent both, here's a copy

Wednesday, August 2 trip.

On business in San Diego for a day caused me to plan properly and pad the trip by a day and night to indulge in some basic hedonism. I've been going to TJ for over 15 years, although not with any regularity such as some of the studs list here.

I hit the border midnight Tuesday, scored my cialis, and ventured to the alley by HK. Priorities in order were: beer, tequila shot then the SG for the first bang. Got to get the skunk off. However, this was not to be. during my walk heading down the alley I saw a cutie (no name guys sorry, not memorable enough to mention) I got away with spending 35 total. summarizing - upsell, upsell... So I just conceded for a substandard cbj and then did the doggie pound with emphasis on the pounding, till I was done. #1 out of the way, and priorities already screwed up.

On to beer and tequila... Had some beers, couple shots, feeling good. I ventured around aimlessly - HK, Adelitas, Rio Rosas. Got to comment on the last one. I had never spent any time here, but read a bit about it recently and wanted to make it one of my stops. I have to tell you, my experience was good. I got a couple of cheap beers and this 5 girl came over to me at the bar. She pushed at first to go where it was dark, but I was content to hang at the bar. She proceeded to get one drink on me and massage my neck, my head (the cranial one) my back, my shoulders, my arms and hands, for like 20 minutes. All the while talking extremely dirty in my ear about all the things she wanted me to do to her. Again this was out of my agenda, but actually enjoyed it alot. Feeling refreshed I realized it was time for the trophy girl.

Based on the clubs I entered during the wee hours, AB was the target. I went there and took my time, watching the girls go up, and then come down in 15 minutes. Nope. You all know that if you hang out long enough, you start to see the ones with spark and playfulness. So I narrowed it down to 3 of them. I choose Marianna. Before I go on - I know this was her name, BUT I did a search on her and find nothing. I believe she was from Mexico City or Guadalajara, however the reports on the one from Guadalajara are nothing like her so - go figure. Anyway - She was in her 30's 5'4 BIG rack, tight waist, nice toned body, slightly thick thighs for me, but then I like the 100 pounders. Long brown hair. This was a good score, we got to the room and she was the one to slow things down, I like that. gave me a good cbj to start and then I took her through the positions. She did some great faking, I was buzzed and gave in to it like a good movie. I finished mish and she came right at the same time - it was magic (I'm joking) .... Uh, yeah right, well it was a nice effort from her and I appreciated it anyway. I enjoyed it and would repeat with her. Damage 74$ and pop #2 out of the way.

Another hour till daylight and I wanted food. Sustenance, now! I ate some tacos at the place next to AB, was decent. I ventured back to HK, the alley, and walked around a bit. Nothing seemed fun at that moment - you know that feeling? selection is poor, you just finished, not ready for a third, don't want to keep drinking cause of the boredom, daylight is coming, etc... ??? So I paid the 35 bucks for a room so I could sleep for a few hours. fast forward to 8:00 am...

Low on cash, I decide I'll taxi to the border and go to the car, get cash and return, bad idea, border line is long, so I order the taxi to return me to the zona so I can wait for the line to be more manageable. I go to the only bar open - I'm sorry maybe somebody can help me with the name - la carache? middle of the street on the HK side? anyway, I had about 60 $ left so I conceded to the 2 for drinks and watch the mexicans get drunk first thing in the morning. This whole experience here at this place at this hour was so surreal. I got to know the waiters, one in particular - Eddie, I would get bored at the bar and stand in the entrance to people watch. I ended up getting pulled into a small soccer exhibition with a cop, a local and one of the door guys. The street was so empty we just kicked the ball around and passed it back and forth. I tried of this and went back in to drink.

Flash forward 20 minutes - So I'm upstairs in their single room getting a bbbj from a girl that I gave 8 bucks. I blew it all over her face and in her mouth, was just so raunchy. I came out of the room to have the drunks in the bar cheering me... Pop #3 done

Cialis is really doing the job... muy bien! Being low on cash I head to the border and to the car for a refill. this whole process cost me like 3 hours before I was drinking a beer and stuffing singles in a gstring at HK. I spent some time there watching Miranda from TJ. VERY HOT 23 yr old, hair past her shoulders, 5'5 (approx) 100 lbs, small fake rack, big nipples. She would disappear for periods of time and then come back. I tipped a waiter and told him that he needed to set us up. He did - I'll get back to that.

While there, i met a gringo dude - one of you??? come on fess up. Anyway we had a blast on the second level. We played the gambling dice game for a couple hours with the waiters as they would come by for a dollar per round. I think we got the better of them. It was fun and if this was one of you guys, let me know, meet you there anytime!

Back to Miranda - I took her up to cascades and WOW. She says that she had only been there a week. Whatever, maybe, do I care? She got naked and gave me a long bbbj before the cover. she let me do any position I wanted, I asked her how she liked it and she said hard... I had to oblige, twas my duty! Anyway, I was having a hard time finishing and so I directed her to hj, she began but you know the rule, if you want something done right.... I asked her to lick my boys which she did happily and quite well. I blew it hard and we showered together before the knock.

Boys - I saved the best for last - She was AWESOME. Pop #4 achieved.

All in all was a good way to spend the night and day. I got over the border, had dinner and to my hotel by 6:00 showered and off to sleep.

Sorry if that was too long but had to be specific, I normally don't write these.

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Rick Rock
08-08-06, 04:57
Hey yall I have a quick question.

What if I'm walking across into Tijuana, but I plan to stay 72 hours or more or even venture further into the country? Is there some where I can get a tourist card (or whatever I need) right after I cross the border? How much does it cost? What do I need to get one? Are there buses from Tijuana to places like Mexico City?

Thanks alot!

PS. I'm Latino and grew up in Latin America so I'm not worried about safety or anything like that, just need the advice listed above. If anyone needs info on the DR feel free to PM me. I lived there for some time and fucked all over the country.

Country John
08-08-06, 23:47
Go to the immigration office after you pass through the first turn-stile. Get an "FMT" Tourist Card. Be prepared to produce a passport or birth certificate and some ID. You fill out the form with the immigration guy, then go to the bank and pay $21.00 then return to the immigration guy for the stamp.

The FMT is good for 180 days.

The office is located in the Secondary Inspection area. Anyone there will be able to direct you. There are two bus stations. The one on Revolution BL is the main station. Go there.

Be Safe and Be Nice
Country John



Hey yall I have a quick question.

What if I'm walking across into Tijuana, but I plan to stay 72 hours or more or even venture further into the country? Is there some where I can get a tourist card (or whatever I need) right after I cross the border? How much does it cost? What do I need to get one? Are there buses from Tijuana to places like Mexico City?

Thanks alot!

PS. I'm Latino and grew up in Latin America so I'm not worried about safety or anything like that, just need the advice listed above. If anyone needs info on the DR feel free to PM me. I lived there for some time and fucked all over the country.

Reinaldo
08-10-06, 02:58
There are two bus stations. The one on Revolution BL is the main station. Go there.

Country John

Actually the main bus station is called la Central Camionera and it's just off the Via Rapida on Lazaro Cardenas east of downtown tijuana.

The one on revolucion is the Mexicoach terminal. Buses leave from there to rosarito or the border.

ThePerson
08-10-06, 03:52
Hey Guys,

I'm trying to plan a trip to TJ, its been about 1.5 years and I have been dying to go back. I'm having a hard time finding a hotel to book close to the border. I prefer to stay at a cheap dive, on the border or on the Mexico side, doesn't matter to me, just whatever is cheap and somewhat clean (no cum "visible to the naked eye" stains) on the sheets. Anyone have any suggestions. I was trying to do it online so I can do the combo thing and save a little.

Thanks

Country John
08-10-06, 17:18
Actually the main bus station is called la Central Camionera and it's just off the Via Rapida on Lazaro Cardenas east of downtown tijuana.

The one on revolucion is the Mexicoach terminal. Buses leave from there to rosarito or the border.

I stand corrected. (I never take the bus.) Thanks Reinaldo.

Country John

Firedsup
08-11-06, 01:40
Fellas was planning a trip for today or tommorrow or possibly sat. would like some info about the lines or security reports due to the upgraded terror alerts.

I have been going to tj for a little over 25 yrs. and have not encountered any problems, wondering if some of you fellow mongers can help shed some light on this subject.

Thanks and happy hunting

ThePerson
08-11-06, 02:29
I normally dont eat tacos because they are usually tasteless and messy. I usually eat seafood out of La Perla in La Zona. I am a picky eater who pissed off an inumerable number of girl friends and wives.... Today I just found out that tacos can be very delicious with the best tacos I ever ate anywhere in Mexico.

It's the Club Super - Tacos Loco restaurant on the pedestrian walkway from the US border, near the monger's arch. He has $1 beers and 3 grilled-pork tacos for $1. The 3 tacos for $1 is a generous serving with grilled pork, unlike the rest of Mexico, tender, juicy, tasty, flavorful... with spices similar to those used in Jack in the Box burgers.

His $1.50 shrimp tacos are also very fresh and tasty with grilled, rather than deep-fried, shrimp. I did not try his carne asada since I was too full. He also has a good menu of other Mexican dishes.

He has a few tables right in the alley where you can suck your beers, gulp down your tasty tacos, and eye the San Diegan babes parading around for some brown meat....

Life is good.Do you mean Taco Beel right past the border or is this place after it. Id like to pass by it. Thanks.

PS: I usually walked to TJ, please let me know if its in the walking route. Thanks.

Rain At Beach
08-11-06, 03:28
Do you mean Taco Beel right past the border or is this place after it. Id like to pass by it. Thanks.

PS: I usually walked to TJ, please let me know if its in the walking route. Thanks.I suspect it's the place on the right before you get to the Arch. Open air, narrow, with openings on two opposite sides. Big grill; lots of street urchins. You missed out by not ordering the carne asada. Yum.

Country John
08-11-06, 03:55
Fellas was planning a trip for today or tommorrow or possibly sat. would like some info about the lines or security reports due to the upgraded terror alerts.

I have been going to tj for a little over 25 yrs. and have not encountered any problems, wondering if some of you fellow mongers can help shed some light on this subject.

Thanks and happy hunting


Not sure how much help I'll be (I take my vehicle) but I've noticed zero difference in wait time, zero difference in the encounter with the agents. The drama is with the airlines. If they have a reason to probe, they might go further than normal but I've not heard anything out of the ordinary.

Just have your docs in order, be nice and be neat. You'll be fine.

Country John

Blue Nose
08-12-06, 17:20
Hey Guys,

I'm trying to plan a trip to TJ, its been about 1.5 years and I have been dying to go back. I'm having a hard time finding a hotel to book close to the border. I prefer to stay at a cheap dive, on the border or on the Mexico side, doesn't matter to me, just whatever is cheap and somewhat clean (no cum "visible to the naked eye" stains) on the sheets. Anyone have any suggestions. I was trying to do it online so I can do the combo thing and save a little.

I would suggest the Hotel Hacienda de Santiago, which is right across from La Tropa Bar. It costs about $43 per night for a very nice room (including a kitchenette). Very clean and new and it comes highly recommended from myself and other mongers on this forum. Chica friendly, and you are a 1 minute (safe) walk from the zone. Noisy at night, but that is standard for TJ. Could also try the Nelson, which is at Primera and Revolucion (right by the arch) - runs you about $55, and is alos chica friendly. I personally feel Santiago is nicer and better value.

Remember to pay for a double room if you want to bring a girl back

Blue Nose

Reinaldo
08-12-06, 19:58
Remember to pay for a double room if you want to bring a girl back

Blue Nose

Is this something you thought up or did someone at the desk mention it? In Mexico a double room is one with two beds. Two people can stay in a room with one bed without generally incurring extra charges.

Ezinho
08-12-06, 21:45
Hey Guys,

I prefer to stay at a cheap dive, on the border or on the Mexico side, doesn't matter to me, just whatever is cheap and somewhat clean (no cum "visible to the naked eye" stains) on the sheets. Anyone have any suggestions. I was trying to do it online so I can do the combo thing and save a little.

Thanks
Well, (speaking of cheap dives) the last time I was in TJ was a few years ago, so this may not help, but there was a hotel called Motel Alaska on Av. Revolución (on the way to the zona) that was about $20 a night. Now, before you get ready to book a room there, let me just warn you that this place was a shithole, the room reeked, and there was an angry swam of houseflys that I had to chase out with a towel before I could settle into the room. Having said that, after about 20 beers at the various bars in the zona, I had no problems getting to sleep. And no cum stains either lol!

So, does anyone know if this place still exists? Actually I will be in the San Diego area for business the last week of this month, and was thinking about spending Labor Day weekend in TJ, I'm interested to see what transformations have taken place since I was last there. I'm assuming TJ will be packed full of gringos that long weekend, so is it still possible to be able to just roll into town and find a place to stay? Or will even my beloved Motel Alaska be booked solid? lol

After living in South America these last couple of years, I' m really gonna have to lower my expectations in order to go back to TJ. But I'm willing to give it the old college try!

ThePerson
08-14-06, 04:06
Is this something you thought up or did someone at the desk mention it? In Mexico a double room is one with two beds. Two people can stay in a room with one bed without generally incurring extra charges.Curious about that also, I intended to go to the clubs and street girls, didnt know I can take any back with me for a walk. Do you usually have to get a double room with just a visitor or few. Thanks.

Rider Jay
08-14-06, 04:30
This report is a few weeks old but a little computer trouble stopped me from posting part 2 of my last midweek trip.

After staying up late on the very eventful night that I arrived, one that included my first TJ police encounter, I didn’t get back across until about noon. Even though it was a Wednesday afternoon the selection was still pretty good. My flight didn’t leave until 9pm so I knew I’d have plenty of time to drink a few beers, eat and get in a couple of sessions.

I don’t know the name of the street but if you are standing in front of the Arch, heading for the Zona, there’s the Hotel Colon on your left. About a year ago I had a memorable session with a girl standing out front. She seemed very new to the life and she was an absolute 10. I asked my usual how much for suky, fucky, sin ropa, 2 positions and was told $20 plus room but no suky. I usually like some suky to get my engine started but, not only was the price right, she was also too pretty to pass up so I went for it. I was not disappointed. This girl seemed to actually like sex and, while on top, she rode me like a dirt bike.

It was the only time I’d seen her out until this trip. Her name is Monica and this time she seemed a little more seasoned. Suky was no problem but her starting price was $40 plus room. We worked it down to $30 for everything and had anther great session.

After that I had a few bears and a bite to eat. Nothing in the Adelitas Bar or the Chicago Club inspired me enough to spend the extra money so grabbed anther street girl, had a pretty good time, and headed to the airport. All in all, outside the prick cop, it was a pretty good trip.

Be safe, Rider Jay

Reinaldo
08-14-06, 06:28
Well, (speaking of cheap dives) the last time I was in TJ was a few years ago, so this may not help, but there was a hotel called Motel Alaska on Av. Revolución (on the way to the zona) that was about $20 a night. Now, before you get ready to book a room there, let me just warn you that this place was a shithole, the room reeked, and there was an angry swam of houseflys that I had to chase out with a towel before I could settle into the room. Having said that, after about 20 beers at the various bars in the zona, I had no problems getting to sleep. And no cum stains either lol!

So, does anyone know if this place still exists? Actually I will be in the San Diego area for business the last week of this month, and was thinking about spending Labor Day weekend in TJ, I'm interested to see what transformations have taken place since I was last there. !

The Motel Alaska is still around.

Lascivious
08-14-06, 21:32
This girl seemed to actually like sex and, while on top, she rode me like a dirt bike.


Like a dirt bike, that's a good one.

Rider Jay
08-15-06, 05:56
Every time I'm in town I stop and eat at La Perla. They have the best cavichie de camaron tostados I've ever tasted. When I read your report I got excited because I thought great food plus, for a change, fine women. Unfortunatly the place still looked the same and I saw the same chubby waitresses, but at least the food was still great :). I hope we're talking about the same place. The La Perla I'm thinking of is, if your leaving the Chicago Club and go past AB's, right on the corner to your right. I will try Kim Mon the next time I hit town so thanks for the tip.

Be Safe, Rider Jay


La Perla was closed last week for remodeling. A new owner had bought over the place.

I instead went to Kim Mon, the Chinese restaurant at the end of the alley, on Nino Hero. The food was unusually good and the beer was cheap. Just remember each order is big enough for 2 persons.

La Perla was opened this week and was redecorated by a new owner. They hired a bunch of new waitresses who were much thinner and prettier than the porkies who used to be there. They were bringing out the raw clam appetizer and consomme on the house which were excellent. The beers are still $1.

La Perla is going upscale with the same cheap menu but with much better service and classier decoration. It's a must visit place for all mongers. Highly recommended.

Smut Villain
08-18-06, 02:02
Don't know what it is but it sounds good. I have to order it next time.

La Perla has been bringing out on the house a plate of marinaded raw fish with green pepper and onion. It's fresh and excellent with a few beers, not even a hint of fishiness. They also bring endless cups of seafood consomme gratis on request.

After a meal of mariscos and a few beers, a big tent is always raised in my pants, which demands a few quick runs to the clubs and the alley. OTH a heavy meal of meat usually weighs me down and sometimes just brutally kills my libido for an hour.

Life is good.
ceviche = marinated raw seafood (just like the dish you're describing - you answered your own question ;) )

camarones=shrimp

tostadas=you already know what that is.

Rider Jay
08-18-06, 06:16
The Smut Villain is not only correct but his spelling in Spanish is much better then mine. I think they marinate the raw shrimp in a little salt, fresh lime juice, and some spices. I haven't tryed a lot of La Perla's dishes because I always sit at the bar, order 2 or 3 of these tostadas along with their chips, and either have a few beers or a premium margaritas. I'm never there long enough because I use the place to grab a quick bite and then I jump right back in the game.

Be safe, Rider Jay


ceviche = marinated raw seafood (just like the dish you're describing - you answered your own question ;) )

camarones=shrimp

tostadas=you already know what that is.

Pico1972
08-22-06, 02:44
When did this site become a restaurant guide? Stick to the real subject of this board - the Mexican Tuna. Enough already.

Raiderman
08-22-06, 04:52
When did this site become a restaurant guide? Stick to the real subject of this board - the Mexican Tuna. Enough already.No shit!

Admin
08-22-06, 07:48
Greetings everyone,

Actually, the ISG Forum is a Travel Website, and therefor travel advice such as hotel and restaurant reviews are perfectly acceptable.

Thanks,

Jackson

BlueScott
08-23-06, 15:05
First of all, thank you to everyone who gave useful and detailed information here before. You made my first trip to TJ much easier and more enjoyable. I had no problems and enjoyed myself greatly.

I walked through the gates and was immediately met by the yellow-shirted Taxi guys wanting to give me a ride for $5. I wanted to walk a little to so I went to the right toward the McDonalds. There the Taxi rides to anywhere were just $3 so I figured that walking two blocks was worth the $2 and hopped it. It was early, about 7pm so I went to the Zone and walked around to get my bearings. Yes, the alley girls really do grab your shirt and some of them hold on very tightly.

I tried Adelitas, The Chicago Club and Hong Kong. Of the three I found that Adelitas was definitely the place for a newbie who didn’t know the game. If you’ve been to a couple of strip clubs in the US, then once you push past the heavy curtains you’ll be right at home here. Grab a seat if you can find one because they fill up.

I instantly recognized “Hottie Central” from the descriptions. These are the really beautiful women that aren’t impressed by anything.

I sat down and looked around. If you make any eye contact at all then it is taken as an invitation to join you and the woman is either looking for a $7 drink to pay her bar fees, or a quick trip upstairs.

One girl that I would call second tier, not quite a hottie central girl, but definitely a 7 came over after she saw me checking her out. I can’t remember her name but she was probably late 20’s, 5-05, slender with lighter brown hair. She sat down and immediately leaned into me with lots of body contact. She started running her hands around until she found the front of my jeans and then started stroking like we were old friends.

I know from other posts that I probably could have negotiated lower but I agreed to $60 (she knew I was new) and went upstairs. When she undressed she had a firm body with just a little sag to the butt.

She took charge and told me to undress. She sat on the bed and asked me if I wanted to be sucked. Well yes… Without asking for any additional cash she asked if I wanted bare or with condom. I played it safe and asked for a condom which didn’t offend her at all.

This was clearly a pro and she knew how to suck, nice varied technique.

She then laid back and invited me aboard. We started Missionary, this was fun but I wanted a bit more interaction so when I pulled back she immediately offered, “Doggy?” Now that was what I had in mind. I got behind and she was smiling at me in the mirror the whole time making eye contact.

I got going and then she did something I hadn’t felt before. She brought her legs together, and twisted her upper body around so that she was butt in the air, but looking backwards under her left arm with her right shoulder on the bed. It made her very tight and totally exposed the hips for great hand-holds. I finished like that. I was ready for her to bolt as described in other posts. She cleaned herself up, offered to leave me the still clean towel if I wanted to take a shower, and took off for the club. Overall a very nice and worthwhile experience, I would definitely repeat.

Thomrn10
08-25-06, 04:45
Good report Blue and I would also like to thank everyone that made my trip easier with all the many fine reports throughout the forums.

I do speak passable Spanish by the way and I think it makes for a better and perhaps more economical experience.

I spent 16 hours in TJ getting a room at the Cascades a few doors down from Adelitas for 35$ which had aircon, hot water and a tolerable noise level. I would recommend the 6th floor as the lower floors are quite busy with the ladies coming and going. I paid an extra 10 to have a plastic card so i had access to my room. It felt safer and i got the ten dollars back on exit.

I started my evening taking the edge off by going with Gracie, a pretty faced spinner who weight no more than 90 lbs. A decent cbj with a couple positions including doggy...for being so small, she took the pounding well. A great way to start and take the edge off for 25$.

Went to a place called Peanuts and Bear in the center of town after dinner, sat down, had a beer and Paola came over and sat on my lap while touching and kissing. Great introduction. She was the opposite of spinner with huge natural tits and a round, firm ass as well as a pretty face. Although i wasnt quite recovered, I came back quickly when she offered a lap dance with bj for 20. We disappeared behind some curtains for about 30 minutes of play as well as a bbbj. I was feeling good.

I then spent a few hours going in and out of a variety of bars....some interesting, some not. I ended up at Adelita's drinking beers and handing out one dollar bills to the strippers. By the way, the dollar bills handed out to the desk, maid and security guys at the hotels made for a good stay.

Finally hooked up with Jessica because all the hot shit 9s and 10s have an attitude I didnt like. Id still fuck them some day. Jessica was a 7 but had a cute face with a nice rack and a wonderful ass to grab. We settled on $60 and went upstairs right after the cialis kicked in. I had told her there was a tip involved for a special good time and she provided it with bbbj, 4 positions including doggy as well as being really into it. I agree with you Blue...the ladies at Adelita's are professionals. Even if she was faking me out, it worked for me.

I was a Tj snob thinking I couldnt have a good time there given its reputation. This year alone, I will have visited Thailand/Pattaya, Cambodia, Argentina and Costa Rica but I will return to Tj and probably stay a few days as opposed to 16 hours.

To top off the trip, I left my room and in a little under an hour, I was on Interstate 5 heading north. Luck, skill and a little help from this forum was all i needed.

Blue Nose
08-26-06, 17:06
Is it just me or has the wait at the border for cars gotten almost to the point of being ridiculous? Might have something to do with all that is going on now in the UK.

Last weekend, the wait was so long that the TJ cops stopped letting cars queue up for the border crossing. I was waved past so I kept driving over to the Otay Mesa crossing and the wait there was an hour.

When it was my turn to be inspected, the guard asked all kinds of questions. He had me open up the glove compartment and then walked to the other side of my car and opened the passenger doors. The guards at the car crossings are even starting to swipe passports and IDs now, much more frequently than in the past in my opinion.

If you want a quick trip to TJ, leave the car at the border and walk. This has always been the case, but now more it's more true than ever...

Blue Nose

Reinaldo
08-26-06, 20:51
Last weekend, the wait was so long that the TJ cops stopped letting cars queue up for the border crossing. I was waved past so I kept driving over to the Otay Mesa crossing and the wait there was an hour.



This is nothing new unfortunately. If they don't do it traffic can back up almost to Revolucion.

Jimbo 2
08-29-06, 00:29
Can you take the girls up at las chavelas (or whatever its called), I was there the other night and there were a lot of girls but I didn't see any of them go up, I didn't want to be a ******* and approach one and ask how much? Also anyone have any experience w/ mermaids? Seemed intersting but wasn't sure if it would be a waste of time to go in. Thanks

Country John
08-29-06, 07:12
Hey BlueNose, Adela is pissed because you forgot her birthday.....ready for another trip to Las Pulgas? You wouldn't believe last weekend. Too much eye candy.

Border wait times can be anywhere between an hour to two hours depending on the time of day. Yes, it can back up to Zona Rio and further in the mornings at "rush hour."

Some lines move faster than others. They open the far left lane at 4AM so it's a good if you get in line (cener lane) on Ninos de los Hereos at about 3:30AM, you'll get through no later than 4.

Great TRs from the noobies!! Sounds like the girls treated you right. Good stuff!!

Be Safe and Be Nice
Country John

Blue Nose
08-30-06, 03:49
Can you take the girls up at las chavelas (or whatever its called), I was there the other night and there were a lot of girls but I didn't see any of them go up, I didn't want to be a ******* and approach one and ask how much? Also anyone have any experience w/ mermaids? Seemed intersting but wasn't sure if it would be a waste of time to go in. Thanks


Yes, the girls of Las Chevalas go up. They use the Cascadas hotel right next door. Most will ask for $50 but will settle for $40. It's a little cheaper than AB and CC and it is not the fuckmill those places are.

Country John - Happy Birthday to Adela. I didn't forget - I just didn't realize it was her B'Day. My card will be in the mail by tomorrow. I'm always ready for another trip to TJ...

Bluse Nose

Wanderer2222
08-30-06, 09:28
I queried a bunch of the hotties at Adelitas and could not find too many that would go for kissing on the mouth. Heidi is beautiful and gave a little action and Rosie as well but neither had the true GFE action. Any input on ladies that will give a true GFE?? And yes I am clean and fairly respectable looking for an older fart. And as some may expect, I still want a hottie, not a fatty. If it can't happen I can restrict my mongering to South America and SE Asia but, damn, ther are some hot little ladies in TJ.

By the way, if you dont care much about this topic, Heidi is very sexy, very hot (whew), but I really get off w/ the GFE thing that seems to be lacking in TJ.

Dr_Know
08-30-06, 18:10
Greetings.

Seasoned monger from east coast here. I will be visiting SD in September and planning on hitting Tijuana at least 1 afternoon and 1 night.

I've done Adelitas/HK a few times (great fun I might add). But am planning on street girls this time. I'd appreciate some of your PM's if you are interested in sharing info or possibly going with me. I'd feel better doing the street girl thing and the alley if I wasn't alone.

On a side note. San Diego streetwalkers are as hot as I've seen anywhere from your pics. You lads are lucky.

Thanks for the good info on your forum, and stay safe.

Doc

Reinaldo
08-31-06, 04:34
Yes, the girls of Las Chevalas go up. They use the Cascadas hotel right next door. Most will ask for $50 but will settle for $40.


The real hotties at Las Chavelas have been known to ask for and get more than $50 and I think there may be a few at any given time that don't go up either because they are new or still hope to make a living with fichas and $1 dances.

Stevewxly
09-01-06, 00:50
Hello,

I am just back from 6 days and nights in San Diego and Tijuana.

If you don't want to spend much time reading this. Then here is my overall opinion of Tijuana. As compared to Costa Rica and Panama (where I usually go for mongering). Save your money for a trip to Central America. It's just 'way better' than Tijuana. But if you are in Southern California. Then TJ is very close, and convienent for a 'quick dash over the border'.

There is much written about Tijuana on this forum. So I am not going to try to cover more than I can or should in this brief narritive.

If you want more "local" information about Tijuana. Simply go through the other trip reports on the forum, and you should be able to find out almost anything you want to about what is 'happening in Tijuana'.

I first was in Tijuana in 1967 when I moved to San Diego after being discharged from the US Air Force, and attended my first year of college at San Diego Mesa College. Things in Tijuana have not changed much in the last 39 to 40 years. It still smells, and the hundred of guys who stand around on the sidewalks trying to lure you into their 'clubs" with. " hey buddy - we've got the best club, and the best girls, 2 for 1 - $ 1. 00 beers. Etc. Etc. Check it out, are still there - in force.

I hear that the 'donkey shows' are no longer running in Tijuana. And perhaps they never did exist. But it always made for a good story.

I will say that Tijuana city and the Mexican goverment, has spent considerable money upgrading their streets and roads in the last several years ago. Most of them are now paved, and are quite wide and nice streets.

The Women:

They are still the very young (and some oldies too) girls who come into town for the weekend from the country. Most of them look like local Mexican Indians to me, and are just not very attractive compared to the gals from Central America. Especially the Colombianas. Who put these Mexican girls to shame, as far as looks go.

Last Stuurday evening my wingman - Ho Lover 1 and I walked all over the Zona Roja (North Zone) area of Tijuana. There were lots and lots of the 'pariditas' - girls who lean against the walls. The so called local street worker types.

In a 3 to 4 block area centered around the Adelitas Club. There were perhaps close to 150 of them. Some will just stand there saying nothing as you pass along, others will say " $ 5. 00 - sucky - fucky. Which refers to the $ 5. 00 fee that they want to pay for the hotel room. And then most want $ 20. 00 for themselves.

That's cheap enough for a typical 20-30 minute session with them. But somehow the quality is missing.

I did see a couple of 9's or 10's. But they were girls who were in one of the clubs, and they were obviously American college type girls.

WOW. I would have offered them $ 100. 00 for a little action. But their boyfriends would probably have objected to that. No doubt!

There are better looking gals in the major bars. Adelitas, Chicago Club, Club Hong Kong, etc. Who want from $ 40 and up to go to their hotel room. But even so, I did not see any real georgeous (sp) stunners like you will find at the casinos in Panama City or the 'Del Rey Hotel in San Jose CR.

There seems to be lots and lots of quanity (girls) in TJ, but the quality seems to be very lacking. At least in my opinion.

Hotels/Motels:

My amigo and I stayed at the Motel 6 in Chula Vista which is right on the MTA Trolley Line and only a $ 1. 00 ride away from the Mexican border. This was very convienient, and we made many trips down there and back in our 6 days there.

Most enjoyable experience on this trip was the San Diego - LA Dogers baseball game which we took in our first night. Good game and nice experience for one who does not get to see many major league sports - first hand - since I live in such a small town in SW Missouri.

Plus I was just getting over a cold that I had gotten about 4 weeks ago (I know thats a long time for a cold to hang on) when last in Panama City. So I had about 10 or 12 nice big glasses of fresh squeezed orange juice from the street stands in TJ. It's not orange season yet until November. But they tasted real good anyway.

Also I found and purchased a bottle of antibiotics (for my cold) from one of the local TJ farmicias. I asked first about them going back across the border. And sure enough when I went back into the US. I simply showed the bottle to the US Border Control guard, when he asked if I had anything to declare, and he waived me through without comment.

Eating in Tijuana:

My friend Larry refused to eat anything while in Tijuana. (he would eat before we left at Denny's in the US). But I did, and did not suffer for any of that. I even had a hot dog from one of the many, many street vendors, and actually it was pretty good. I was not 'man enough' to attempt to try the local tacos from the street carts. As they looked just a little too 'gamey' for me, but I did pretty well with some pizza, and breakfast at the Nelson Hotel.

You will actually pay as much or more for food purchased in Tijuana as in the States. So we just found it better to try to eat before going across the border.

Hotels:

On the US side were kind of pricey. At $ 50-60. 00 a night and that's for the cheap places like Motel 6. And then on the weekends. Because they can. Almost all hotels/motels in Calif. Will raise their room prices $ 10-20. 00 per night. Again simply because they can.

But we stayed 4 nights on the US side, and finally went to Tijuana and got a couple of hotel rooms over the weekend. For only $ 20. 00 a night. Stayed at a nice centrally located place called the Hotel Enva. It was clean, fairly quiet, hot water, no a/see though. Although it was fairly cool while we were there, and definately worth the difference from the $ 60-70. 00 a night we would have had to pay at Motel 6 on the US side.

I noticed several other hotels in Tijuana for as little as $ 10-12. 00 per night, which would have probably worked provided you were on a tight budget.

We were disappointed to find out that we were there in the wrong season for the horse racing and the bull fights in Tijuana. As those were springtime pursuits. We were told.

I did plan on going out on one of the party fishing boats out of San Diego, but just did not have the time for that

I met a local girl, Cristal, (39 years, barely 5 ft tall, and about 105 lbs. - but Cristal was really into sex, and was a real throughbred in the sack) I asked if she wanted some money when were finished, and she did not refuse the $ 30. 00 I offered her. Although she showed me one of her checks from her San Diego checking account, and said she would write me a check for the money. Although she never got around to doing that. But no matter, as I definately got my $ 30. 00 worth. And she had at least 6 organisms. So she enjoyed herself as well))) - She was born and worked in San Diego, but lived in Tijuana (commuted every day via the trolley to work and back) and I went out with her a couple of times. But the last 3 days there, her mother fell and broke her leg, so poor Cristal was at the hospital with her mother for most of my trip.

If I moved out there or went back for an extended trip to San Diego/Tijuana I have no doubt that Cristal and I could get it on. Lots and lots, as she said she liked me. And that's going some, since I am 23 years her senior.

But I have found that the third world gals just do not care about age as much as the Gringa's from the US seem to do.

Cristal showed me Tijuana one evening and we went to a couple of the night clubs on Revelotion Ave. (sp) one evening. I was mildly shocked to find out the price of drinks. We had a Coke and a 2 for 1 Pina Colada for her and the bill was $ 13. 00 for those. But again "when in Rome". I believe the real price was probably about $ 5-6. 00 for those drinks so our waiter more than likely just slipped the other $ 7 to 8. 00 in his pocket before bringing me my change.

The waiters in the clubs and the restaurants in TJ are not very good about bringing your change back to you. So be forewarned to watch that when you order. Try to ask what the price is beforehand. Then have single dollar bills to pay when you order. Otherwise your waiter will simply not come back with your change. Thinking that whatever he owed you was his 'tip'.

I never, ever experienced this problem in Costa Rica or Panama. But guess the 'clods in TJ' just expect that they can rip you off. If they feel like it.

The Adelitas Club was the very worse for this kind of thing. Just don't give them the chance to rip you off for their tip. Pay the exact amount. Then only leave a tip if the service warrants it.

Some of the waiters will just come out and ask you to leave them a good sized tip. And for this very reason. I will not.

Best deal at the Adelitas Club was the shoe shine from the guy immediately in front of the bar. You sit down on his chair, and he will literally spend an hour shining your shoes - 'to perfection' for only a tip or a dollar or so. He worked so long on my shoes, and they looked so good, that I gave him $ 2. 50 for the shine when I left. And then told my wingman Larry, to sit down and get a shine too.

All in all I had an enjoyable trip out there, but believe that on my next mongering trip I will again go back to Central America. Instead of to Mexico.

Steve

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Hardbarg
09-01-06, 03:41
I've never been impressed by what's available in LC and havn't had much success there. But my last trip I thought I'd gotten lucky. She looked pretty good in the dark. Drank her ficha slowly. She quoted $80. Took counter of $50 immediately.

Upstairs very disappointing, both in looks and performance. Bossy, insisted on 2 condoms. Don't remember her name. Major avoid.

Attached is only picture she let me take, after agreeing pics ok downstairs.

Jimbo 2
09-01-06, 04:27
I've never been impressed by what's available in LC and havn't had much success there. But my last trip I thought I'd gotten lucky. She looked pretty good in the dark. Drank her ficha slowly. She quoted $80. Took counter of $50 immediately.

Upstairs very disappointing, both in looks and performance. Bossy, insisted on 2 condoms. Don't remember her name. Major avoid.

Attached is only picture she let me take, after agreeing pics ok downstairs.
2 condoms??! f that

so are all the gals there fair game? because no one approached me and they were just standing around, also it was there were only a handful of locals, i must be one fugly sob lol

what about the other places on the 'strip' i want to try mermaids next time perhaps or one of the other joints, bad idea?

Country John
09-01-06, 19:58
I read with great interest the Stevewxly post. It is very very accurate. I remember most of what happened to him happening to me.

Anyone who spends time in TJ will however realize that with time and experience the level of service improves and the quality of friends improves. None of the time I spent in TJ for the last year (every weekend and holiday) was spent in the Zona.

You have to have your eyes on in this tourist oriented town. Americans go there to take advantage of everything they can. They are a major source of income. If you're not careful, you'll be taken advantage of. Just like in the USA but on a much smaller scale.

I am certain that women in other parts of the world that are "prettier" than the girls in TJ. I look forward to visiting SA with chuponalgas one of these days, he's been after me to go for a long time. I happen to live with a Maya Morena right now in Tijuana. There are prettier girls to be sure but I have a relationship going with this one that is very satisfying both in abd out of the sack.

Mongers shouldn't be dis-couraged from visiting TJ. For those that live in SoCal it's like living next to a candy store. For those far enough away, perhaps a shot to SA would be a good idea.

There are some stunning girls in TJ. Stunning. Next time, allow me to make a few suggestions.

Country John

Carlos69
09-02-06, 09:07
Country John,

Thanks for all your feed back, I'm hoping you can help. I am going back to San Diego for 5 days and will visit TJ tomorrow night. I usually go to Chicago Club or Adelita's, can anyone tell me of any other local clubs to visit like Las Chevalas and what they offer? Where is it located in reference to Chicago Club? Also, any good restuarnts that you would recommend. Last time, I went to Negro Orozco in El Rio district, it had very good seafood soup. Any place to get a good massage with good service afterwards for a good price?

Thanks

Hadez
09-03-06, 01:17
Just spent a day in TJ and not sure how someone can not like it unless you are just totally against TJ.

As for my first day mongering in TJ

Have not been there in 10 years, I personally thought it looks and smells better then I remember, tho it still looks bad and smells.

Also I walked where I wanted to go and it seems safer then when I use to go down there.

Picked up 3 SWs (a tall spinner type with a round sweat face, a fine looking hardbody with kind hard face and a younger 20s one who was wild as hell). All did CBJ, multi positions, and Sin Ropa (tooks cloths off) with almost no problems (the fine bodies one played with me a little bit but we both had fun with the "game"). All were very responsive, moaning, moving with me and pulling me to them (the fine bodied one did the least amount though). All for 20+5. Lasted about 20-25 mins each. These girls would easily be 80-100 girls in Los Angeles. Also in hindsight one girl disappeared, probably only needing a couple dates, but the other two stayed on the streets for a while with almost no customers picking them up during the morning hours. I am thinking I could have easily haggled better services for longer time with not much extra hit to my cash.

At evening time the HOTTIES came out. Even some white and asian girls came out at this time. And all were on the menu for fun. Some as cheap as $50 and some as much as $150. I did not haggle much hearing that this drives down the service of bar girls.

If you are getting a $50 then the Los Angeles exchange rate would have been 150ish.

If you are getting $150 then the Los Angeles exchange rate would have been $250-350ish. If one of the $150s are great service then you are actually landing a $500 Los Angeles date. I guess some girls actually charge 1k and up in LA and LV but I better be needing a cardiologist after sex for that kind of money.

Also a good hotel I found was Acapulco, down the street from Adelitas across Constitution. You may not want to sleep there alone but I am not sure if I would sleep in any motel in that area by myself unless the door was metal.

Walking down the steet Honk Kong is on is like dying and going to Monger Heaven. I do not want to exagerate but I swear there are 100 girls on that street alone not to mention what you see in the surrounding streets.

"tshhh" "tshhh"

The mating call a SW uses to attract her monger.

You hear it 2-3 at once walking down that road.

Love that place.

Newbie51
09-04-06, 23:27
I've been reading this forum for a couple of years now. I've never really took the time to post but I do love reading reports posted by Country John and others who enjoy and appreciate Tijuana as much as I do.

I know Tj is far from perfect, and it has its share of problems, but as a resident of San Diego and frequent (and satisfied) visitor, I consider Tijuana to be my second home.

That's why I get so pissed off whenever I read posts by snobs like tevewxly who need to attack and demean Tijuana and its people in order to brag about their awesome experiences globe trotting *****houses around the world.


Then here is my overall opinion of Tijuana. As compared to Costa Rica and Panama (where I usually go for mongering). Save your money for a trip to Central America. It's just 'way better' than Tijuana."

"Most of them look like local Mexican Indians to me, and are just not very attractive compared to the gals from Central America. Especially the Colombianas. Who put these Mexican girls to shame, as far as looks go.As far as the women are concerned. Mexican women can hold their own against any women in Latin America. I've traveled throughout Mexico, and have visited Central America on many ocassions. And i'd say that Mexican women are some of the most diversed and beautiful women in the world. Whoring around for a couple of days in TJ's alleys does not make you an authority on Mexican women. And by the way Colombia is in South America, not Central America.


Things in Tijuana have not changed much in the last 39 to 40 years. It still smellsDo us all a favor and make it another 39 to 40 years before you return to Tijuana. Guys like you give us Gringos a bad name.


on my next mongering trip I will again go back to Central America. Instead of to Mexico.Thank You!

Blue Nose
09-05-06, 00:50
Country John,

Thanks for all your feed back, I'm hoping you can help. I am going back to San Diego for 5 days and will visit TJ tomorrow night. I usually go to Chicago Club or Adelita's, can anyone tell me of any other local clubs to visit like Las Chevalas and what they offer? Where is it located in reference to Chicago Club? Also, any good restuarnts that you would recommend. Last time, I went to Negro Orozco in El Rio district, it had very good seafood soup. Any place to get a good massage with good service afterwards for a good price?

Thanks

Carlos69,
Try Las Chevalas (turn left as you leave ABs and walk about 300 feet). Las Chevalas is on your left. You should also try HK bar. Turn right out of ABs, then take first right and then first right again into the alley. HK is straight ahead about 750 feet on the right. Las Chevalas is usually a bit cheaper than ABs, with some very nice women in there. HK is mainly a strip club and while you can get the girls to go to the hotel, they can be pricey. Never had too much luck with them in the room, although you can get a privado (private dance) and YMMV.

As for restaurants around the zone, my favorite is La Perla: turn left out of AB and walk straight to the corner. La Perla is diagonnaly across the street with the thatch roof. Also, the restaurant in the lobby of hotel Nelson is quite good (Nelson is located on Revolucion right by the arch). Both are clean, safe and fairly cheap, with La Perla, I think, being the better value of the two.

Blue Nose

RedDog
09-05-06, 15:26
always nice to see frequent visitors (even people that have TJ as a second home) come into the forum they have used and enjoyed frequently to complain about a extreamly fair and well written report.

I belive that the over answer was steve had a good time but not as good as in other places. I believe that most people that have traveled to other countries and cities will back me up and say there are better places to find pussy than TJ.

Dont get me wrong there is also a nice boarder town here. Unfortunatly it is not as fun as TJ but when you live 30 min from the border it is a easy stop.

That said if for the same amount of time(and travel costs
) i could be in a FKK club in germany I would be there. Still I like TJ it is a adventure and has its own charm although i have always felt a bit at home in a shit hole.

well here is thanking steve for a well written report and even getting a forum vergin with a vast amount of information that i am sure he will share with us now.

RedDog
09-05-06, 15:29
I dont have much expearance there. but i liked Bar tropical. If you can pay a bit more mermads can have a very nice selection. But you miss out on the bar fun. Hong kong is also fun if you come at the right time you can drink a few bears and see the shaving cream show. it is funy if it is not erotic. i found it both.

Newbie51
09-05-06, 18:54
always nice to see frequent visitors (even people that have TJ as a second home) come into the forum they have used and enjoyed frequently to complain about aand well written report.

I belive that the over answer was steve had a good time but not as good as in other places. I believe that most people that have traveled to other countries and cities will back me up and say there are better places to find pussy than TJ.

Dont get me wrong there is also a nice boarder town here. Unfortunatly it is not as fun as TJ but when you live 30 min from the border it is a easy stop.

I was not simply attacking his "extreamly fair" report. I was criticizing his need to insult and demean Tijuana and its people. He didn't simply state that he did not have a good time, or even that he hated his experience in TJ. I myself have traveled to other parts of the world. And yes i've found cities that were much better than TJ, and some that were alot worse. But I never felt the need to express myself in a degrading manner about a particular city that I did not enjoy . If I wasn't pleased with my experience I would simply not return.

Maybe you weren't able to understand my post correctly. It being obviously apparent that english is neither your first, nor second language. So i'd advice that you invest in a dictionary, or perhaps spellcheck, to prevent you from mispelling every other word in your posts. And remember to capitalize the first word at the beginning of every sentence.


Still I like TJ it is a adventure and has its own charm although i have always felt a bit at home in a shit hole.I think I'll leave that one alone. Since I am not familiar with your background or domestic situation. :)

Country John
09-05-06, 21:48
Nothing spreads faster than bad news. Tijuana has had it's share. No doubt it will continue to get a bad review from those who are accustomed to a different way of doing business.

Members express their opinions, and that's what we're about here. I think anyone with a bit of experience (especially in Mexico in general or Tijuana in particular) would surmise that those who have a negative experience are comparing it to an experience they had elsewhere and were not quite prepared for TJ. What works in SA might not go over so well here.

Perhaps they tried to use SA protocol in TJ, or perhaps they have issues with the way things are done in TJ compared to the Orient. I suppose there are major differences, but there are also similarities.

The market will dictate prices, availability and quality. The fact is that there are some very nice girl in the Zona Norte. The problem is that these nice girls are playing to a different market than the girls in SA or the Orient. The money is different etc.

I've seen some of the most beautiful women in Mexico that I've seen anywhere. Even where I live, there is more eye candy on almost every corner. Some are true heartstoppers. Others are dogs. But you get that anywhere, even in CR. You don't have to go to the Zona to monger, there are plenty of venues all over TJ.

Mexicans are warm people naturally and they don't need to make excuses to cover bad behavior. If they are pissed, they are pissed and you know about it. In the past year, I've gone from NO Spanish to BAD Spanish and everyone I meet in Mexico trys to help me improve my Spanish. From the OXXO clerk to the guys who pump the gas at PEMEX. After they get over the ititial chuckle or two, they are warm and helpful. It's a pleasure to live among them.

People can say what they want about Mexico. Those who know about Mexico need to take it with a grain of salt. Spitting on someone's soup because they didn't have a good time is just bad manners, plain and simple. The cool thing about KNOWING what it's like is that you can read between between the lines and understand what really happened.

Be Safe and Be Nice
Country John

Hizark21
09-06-06, 07:17
Personally I prefer the sw's up here in San Diego. When you factor in the gas and the hotel it's roughly about the same. It's hard to find a good bj from a good looking sg in TJ. It's also very rare to get a facial in TJ. The SG's in TJ are much more likely to scam their customers.

It's much harder to find a good looking wsw who will do a facial in SD, but it's worth it when you do.

Country John
09-06-06, 18:29
Personally I prefer the sw's up here in San Diego. When you factor in the gas and the hotel it's roughly about the same. It's hard to find a good bj from a good looking sg in TJ. It's also very rare to get a facial in TJ. The SG's in TJ are much more likely to scam their customers.

It's much harder to find a good looking wsw who will do a facial in SD, but it's worth it when you do.

If you live further away, say in Riverside Country for example you could spend $50. in Gas, then there's parking, hotel, etc. etc.

But then there are those Latinas.......

The more time you spend in TJ the more you can tweak your adventures.

In TJ, you won't get busted for solicitaion or anything like that so the risk is minimal. There are other high rish things to watch out for. The saving there are enormous when you look at the big picture.

IN TJ, the girls must have health cards which proves only that they were seen, not that they practice safe sex. The only laws that control prostitution State-side prohibit it, they don't regulate it.

So there are two sides to every ledger. For me, the risk of tangling with LE Stateside, losing the car, getting written up and all that made the trips to TJ a better idea. Now that I live there I'm glad I chose that route. It's not for everyone though. You have to want it.

Be Safe and Be Nice
Country John

Newbie51
09-07-06, 00:52
Personally I prefer the sw's up here in San Diego. When you factor in the gas and the hotel it's roughly about the same. It's hard to find a good bj from a good looking sg in TJ. It's also very rare to get a facial in TJ. The SG's in TJ are much more likely to scam their customers.Unfortunately it is hard to get a decent BJ from som of the 8's and 9's in TJ.

And the prices do tend to be higher than other places i've visited in Mexico and Central America. But you have to expect that from a major border town like Tijuana. Everything is more expensive rent, food, real estate.

All that being said I still wouldnt monger in San Diego. Most of the sw's in i've seen here are usually drug addicts, many with pimps that you've got to keep your eyes on. And on top of that you have LE to deal with; Getting your car impounded, paying a hefty fine, community service, and if your really lucky the local news team might decide to do a story on johns, so now your neighbors get to see you on TV.

The only way i'd monger here in the U.S. would be with some type of escort service. But alot of those might be scams also, and even if it's not a scam it can easily run you into the hundreds of dollars. Thus defeating the original purpose of saving money.

Besides, like Coutry John, I like latina women. Both in look, and attitude. Not to mention that Mexicanas come in just about every size, shape and color imaginable.

Hizark21
09-07-06, 06:50
The risk of getting busted is very low if you take the proper precautions. Stings are not much of a concern, because they don't happen often. The other thing is that the stings are easy to spot. The decoys don't get in your car.

The other risk is that a UC will follow you. They are easy to spot if you go a drive distance from where you pick up the sw. If you drive on a empty street it's very difficult for the cop to follow you without being spotted. Vice is not out to much because they have better things to do.

The impound law is not much of a concern because either you or the sw has to admit to solicitation. If you they do catch you in the act you could get cited for "lewd conduct in a public place".

The main reason I don't go to TJ is that the quality of service is so low from sg's. The worst bj in SD is the best bj you will probably get from a SG in many cases. It's really a ripoff that so many of the sg's charge you extra just to take their top.

In my mind the only real advantage of TJ sg's is that there is a bigger selection. You do have to cruise a lot more to find a good sw, but it's worth it.

Hadez
09-07-06, 13:58
I actually live in LA and the scene here is not that bad.

If I was going to go down to SD there is no reason for me to stop until I hit TJ.

Stevewxly
09-10-06, 01:30
In response to some of the criticism (some good and some not so good) that my recent Tijuana report has received.

Gee, I really did not think by trying to write a true and factual trip report about my recent trip to Tijuana, that it would generate quite so much controversy. I was just calling them as I see them - and having been fortunate enough to have traveled a bit, I was comparing my recent experiences in Tijuana to what I have observed recently in Central America.

Don't get me wrong, Costa Rica and Panama in comparison to Tijuana - are in no way perfect either - in my opinion, but I just stated that I thought that I liked it a little better in Central America than what I recently observed in Tijuana.

Country John -

Firstly thank you John for recognizing that what I said in my report was my own personal opinion. I thought it was fairly factual about the present conditions of what I observed recently in Tijuana. I can see why you might object to a few of my observations, as you say - you are living in Tijuana with a local woman, and naturally I can see that you want to try to keep as good a reputation for Tijuana as you can. I think that is a good thing for you to try to do - make the very best of your present situation, and also try to be a proponent of the area that you have chosen to live in. Congrats to you on that. And also thanks for your good advice about Tijuana here on this forum.

I read some of your reports before going to Tijuana, and found them quite informative and very helpful. And if you are happy with your present situation, which you seem to be, then more power to you, and I wish you many, many more happy years living with your lady in Tijuana.

In response to Newbie51 -

Oh what I wouldn't give to be like you again - young!

I might still be able to round up 3 or 4 young ladies everyday - and just "screw the hell out of them".

As it is now, I have to take Viagra just to get and maintain a halfway decent 'woodie'. And I am only able to take on one a day - at most.

With the curse of old age, comes the need for quite a lot of medicine that one does not need to take in his youth.

And if I once again was young, I would not have to get up 2 or 3 times in the middle of the night - just to go take a whizz. Bummer!

And most of all Newbie51, if I could revisit the glory days of my youth - then I could once again be just like you - "young and dumb and full of cum".

In closing, I am reminded here of a pretty good joke that I would like to share with you -

There were two bulls standing up on a hill overlooking a peaceful valley.

The young bull remarked to the old bull, "Damn take a look down there, there must be 7 or 8 young heifers just waiting for us to join them.

"Let's run down there and fuck a couple of um, said the young bull", to which the old bull replied, "No son, let's walk down there, and fuck um all".

Pura Vida - stevewxly

Stevewxly
09-10-06, 23:10
Here is some good news about Tijuana that I think everyone may want to hear. While in Tijuana about 10 days ago, my wingman Ho Lover1 and I found the following:

The taxi drivers who are lined up just across the bridge inside Mexico may ask for $ 7. 00 to take you to the clubs. Adelitas, Hong Kong, Chicago, Miami, etc. But we found out that if you bargin with them some, they will gladly take you from the border to the clubs for only $ 5. 00.

Then when you get ready to return from almost any area in the Zona Norte. Like around the Adelitas, Hong Kong Club area, etc. Look for the Red & White Libre Taxis. Those guys will gladly wisk you back to the border for only $ 3. 00. They may ask for $ 5. 00 or $ 4. 00 at first, but just say, "no I only want to pay $ 3. 00". You may have to talk to 2-3 taxistias passing by, but one will say OK, and take you for $ 3. 00.

On the P4P girls. We probably personally talked to 100 or more of the SW's or pariditas, while walking along the streets. Almost all of them would say $ 20. 00 for 'fucky-sucky, and then another $ 5. 00 for the hotel room. Which was always right next door to where they were standing. I even took one of them for $ 20. 00 for about 20 minutes and the hotel room was only $ 3. 00.

So guys if you are looking for the cheaper pussy, it's OK to look and window shop in the clubs like Adelitas, Hong Kong, but when you are ready to 'do the deal' for a bargin price, then simply select one from the hundreds of pariditas (girls who stand by the wall) that you will see standing out on the street. And get the whole deal for only $ 23. 00 to $ 25. 00 a pop.

If you are one of those guys who just has to have the "best looking gal" in town, then you will probably find "her" working in one of the clubs. Not on the street. But you will find that you will have to pay considerably more than $ 25. 00 "for her company". Probably more like $ 50. To 60 to $ 70. 00.

One last thing, if you want to stay in Tijuana at a hotel, then there are some in the $ 14. -16. 00 range, of which I have no personal experience.

But for $ 21. 00 you can stay at the Enva Hotel, which is just one block south of the Arch, and you will get a clean, safe room, with double bed, sheets, locking door with key, toilet, hot water shower, towels, (but no air conditioning - but it's fairly cool) in a court yard setting, so it's reasonably quiet - as your room (I stayed in # 20) is back away 60 - 70 yards from the street, which can be noisey at times. And the Enva is 'chica friendly' with no extra charges for guests. And the management never said a word to me when I brought gals back to my room.

The Enva Hotel is only about 2 blocks from the 'heart of the action' - where the Adelitas, & Hong Kong, and several other popular clubs are located. There are pariditas or street walker type gals standing and working on the same street as the Enva Hotel, and most of them will come to your room at the Enva, thusly you can "do the deed" on your turf - not theirs, and even save the $ 5. 00 that you would have to pay if you went to 'their' hotel.

Stevewxly

Country John
09-12-06, 01:53
No worries mate. I tried to stay in context with your TR and your observations were good but typical of someone who has not had much time there, I did not intend to flame you for that at all -it was just an observation.

As far as wanting to paint a good image of TJ is concerned, i'll leave that up to the tourist bureau. Yeah, there are things I don't like about TJ but what I discovered is that there is a big difference between the "quality of living" and the "quality of life." They don't always mean the same thing and that is particularly true of the USA, that's why I have a place in Mexico.

The streets are not paved with diamonds, that's for sure but I'll take the potholes and dust devils over the self cenered arrogance of the USA any day of the week. The Mexican people are warm and giving. They appreciate good company and know how to have a good time; not unlike other people in Latin America or other places in the world. The USA stands in stark contrast.

Many Americans live in Mexico because they are running from something. Perhaps the law or an ex spouse. I am running TO Mexico because I like the people, I can handle the lifestyle (plain and simple) and I don't need the "push, shove, clutch and grab" lifestyle of the USA.

I still have substantial business interests in the USA as well as new business interests in Mexico, where doing business is much easier (you just have to stay on top of things). But as soon as I can I will have sold my interest in the USA, and then Mexico will be my home.

I appreciated your follow up post. I sort of balances things out and give a better picture of where you were coming from.

People need to come to their own conclusions about Tijuana. While it appears to be a grungy place full of dirty situations, one need not look far to find a lot to do and good people to share good times with because life in TJ does not revolve around the Zona Norte. That's for the Gringos.

Yes, I want to defend it I suppose but trust me when I do so from first hand experience, frome living, thinking and doing there solidly over the past year. There is alot people don't know about Mexico. There was a lot I didn't know.

Be safe and be nice
Country John

California Guy
09-13-06, 00:38
Damn haven't been down for about 3-4 months but decided to check out things. Needless to say it wasn't any better and I couldn't believe most of the girls were the same!

Anyway I just hung out at HK for the night because I wasn't to excited but running around. No girl/girl show while I was there so I am wondering what happened to it? I did see 2 new girls that were pretty but the others were the same so a bit of a let down. Had some drinks and went home, didn't even get a girl....and the line going home sucked nuts.

Well take care and be safe!

Country John
09-13-06, 18:37
Damn haven't been down for about 3-4 months but decided to check out things. Needless to say it wasn't any better and I couldn't believe most of the girls were the same!

Anyway I just hung out at HK for the night because I wasn't to excited but running around. No girl/girl show while I was there so I am wondering what happened to it? I did see 2 new girls that were pretty but the others were the same so a bit of a let down. Had some drinks and went home, didn't even get a girl....and the line going home sucked nuts.

Well take care and be safe!

Seems to me the old game is gone. Used to be there would be a good time along with the sex. The girls were friendly and would chat but not as soon as they hit the table it's "Ju go to da hroom?" No time to stroke or squeeze. Things have changed.

If you spend time there and get to know some of the girls, you can get back to that though. I guess that's what makes it a "hobby."

But no pop? Sheesh California Guy, next time at least do a 1 pop. You deserve that just for making the trip!

Country John

Johnyroberts
09-14-06, 18:47
Thanks for all the advice I am going to plan a trip in November now probably the 17th and leaving on the 19th. I have read all the information so far and probably will stay in Mexico and hit Rosarita during the day for the beach. Only thing is this falls on the Revolution Holiday in Mexico.

Would this be a bad weekend or a good one depending on this.

Thanks guys

Netman05
09-14-06, 19:12
I will be making another drip down to TJ in October. It has been a while since I was last there but I almost always have a good time in TJ. I had a few questions for any of the more experienced mongers out there.

Do you know of any chica that performs greek? I have asked many club girls and SWs but with no luck. I even offered $50 tip but still the answer was no. In fact they lookd at me like I was really insulting them. I found that a little odd given the whole nature of what happens in the Zona already.

The second thing I am interested in this trip is potentially an all-nighter with some girl. I read the previous report about trying to find a girl from one of the local clubs and then picking her up after her shift. I have only stayed in the Zona one night but that was in the AB hotel after drinking too much. I would deifnitely never stay there again as the loud music made it impossible to sleep for me. I felt horrible when I woke up @ 8:00 having not slept at all really. Any tips on specific chicas that are willing to do all nighters would be appreciated. I would be willing to pay up to $200+ for the right situation.

If I can't find out these 2 things I will just handle TJ like I have in the past, which means I will still have a good time.

Anyone planning on being in the Zona around Oct 14-19 PM me and maybe we can hook up for a beer.

Conejito
09-14-06, 20:44
Netman,

Try going with them for regular sex and when you're 1/2 finished, point at their back side and ask them "Cuanto mas por esto?" (how much more for this).

Mutha Foo
09-15-06, 03:06
Cal Guy, has it right. TJ has gone from the good ole days to being something what right wings might approve of or at the least approaching that. The Facist Regime that runs the US would not approve of ***** mongering but thinks it's cool to kill children and call it collateral damage. MPs all across the US are shutting down and it's bleeding over to TJ. The good ole days of ***** mongering are going away, it's all apart of the crusade. Wacko Jesus freaks are running the US into the ground and Mexico is just their lap dog.

Country John
09-15-06, 06:04
I will be making another drip down to TJ in October. It has been a while since I was last there but I almost always have a good time in TJ. I had a few questions for any of the more experienced mongers out there.

Do you know of any chica that performs greek?

Jacqueline East side of Ninos Heroes. Under 5' , 110 lbs, short brown/black hair, wears skirts. 5-10 feet south of alley day-afternoon shift. Probably a 300p upsell on top of the stanard rates.

You gots to be very cool on it, and wait till you get in the room before talking about it. Some of the girls will not discuss it on the street because the other girls will over-hear and some don't want others to know. Good luck and have funzies, real women know their stuff.

Country John

Java Man
09-15-06, 14:03
i heard about this a few days ago, but have not seen much coverage about it:
After Jan 8, 2007 Passport will be required if traveling by air or sea, to from Canada, Mexico, Bermuda.

this ones going to affect you TJ visiting dudes:
After Jan 1, 2008, US Passport will be required to enter into Mexico and Canada, return to US. via land crossing.
it's all about fightin terrorism, don'tcha kno?

check out the US Dept of State website for more info:
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cbpmc/cbpmc_2223.html

Bean Counter
09-15-06, 16:33
i am making a trip to sd in the next couple of days. wanted to get suggestions from fellow mongers about hotels that offer high speed internet access as well as are close to the trolley system. i am trying to save a few bucks by not renting a car, and would appreciate your advice and input.

thanks

Inlander
09-15-06, 19:43
i am making a trip to sd in the next couple of days. wanted to get suggestions from fellow mongers about hotels that offer high speed internet access as well as are close to the trolley system. i am trying to save a few bucks by not renting a car, and would appreciate your advice and input.

thankshi bc,

a friend and i just went to tj for the 1st time in 30 years tuesday. we stayed at the best western on 'e' street in chula vista. it offers free internet service in the rooms as well as free 'hot spots' at other areas throughout the property. it is right next to the visitors bureau which is also a trolley stop. we intended to take the trolley to tj, but a 10 minute taxi ride right to the crossing entrance was only $20 with tip for 2 of us (negotiated with the cabbie at the stand 100' from the hotel).

the ride back later that night was the same price.

the trolley is undoubtedly cheaper, but probably takes quite a bit longer from this location. we stayed here because i needed a 'safe' place, and the internet connection for work.

there are also places in san ysidro which is closer, but i don't have any first hand knowledge about them.

inlander

Inlander
09-15-06, 20:03
WOW!

That is all I can say after finally making the trip here from Riverside. I've read the reports for years, and figured they were at least somewhat embellished.

I stand corrected.

Even though we made the trip on a Tuesday afternoon and evening, which the regulars here indicate is a slower, less favorable time to come, We felt like we were in THE monger candy store.

We spent time at the Hong Kong earlier in the afternoon, where beer was 2 for the price of 1 with dancing girls. We tried the Chicago Club also, which never seemed to really liven up, but there were some lookers there.

Adelita's was hands-down the top pick we spent time at. I'm a 'senior' (not talking posts here) monger, and had my ashes hauled 3 times by what I would consider PlayBoy photo material. Over a period of 4 hours. It was just unreal. The service was up there with some of the best; The hotel was clean with a private bath/shower; The price for everything was the equivelant of a 'car date' back home with a homely mediocre provider.

The block in front of the Hong Kong must have had well over a 100 decked out streetgirls looking for action. Some of them were just HOT! I speak no spanish, so I passed on this less expensive action. I'd like to try it sometime with guidance from a knowledgable fellow monger, though. If it is really only $20 a pop, I could afford to put myself into cardiac arrest here!

In addition, it is easy and affordable to get here. We were able to over-indulge in the brewskys since we didn't have to worry about driving anywhere. And the beer prices were the same as a neighborhood bar back home. When we were finished for the night, it was a $4 cab ride to the border, dropped off right where you go through the checkpoint. Once across, the cab stand is right there. $20 for two back to the Best Western in Chula Vista.

I'll be back. Soon and often.

Inlander

Country John
09-15-06, 21:40
i am making a trip to sd in the next couple of days. wanted to get suggestions from fellow mongers about hotels that offer high speed internet access as well as are close to the trolley system. i am trying to save a few bucks by not renting a car, and would appreciate your advice and input.

thanks

i don't know about hotels (although pueblo amigo might have wireless access) but you can stop in at the ampm on revolution for a coffee, they have free access to high speed wireless internet.

country john

Skay33
09-17-06, 11:51
My trip to Tijuana is already 2 years ago. Anyway, I found some pics i've taken within Adelaide Bar (i think it was adelaide).

Look at the one with blonde hairs: she called herself Africa and was a real sex bomb.

I'm wondering if she is still in business there.

That time I crossed the border from SD to Ti at 2am by foot and was wondering if I get sloshed by someone - especially the bridge over the tijuana was that time absolutely in dark.

I ended up in a hotel (short term category) opposite the Adelaide bar and stayed there for 3 nights - that was a severe time, but luckily i survived lol.

Hadez
09-17-06, 17:30
Damn haven't been down for about 3-4 months but decided to check out things. Needless to say it wasn't any better and I couldn't believe most of the girls were the same!

Anyway I just hung out at HK for the night because I wasn't to excited but running around. No girl/girl show while I was there so I am wondering what happened to it? I did see 2 new girls that were pretty but the others were the same so a bit of a let down. Had some drinks and went home, didn't even get a girl....and the line going home sucked nuts.

Well take care and be safe!Man you must have been REALLY unlucky or something.

Maybe I was down there at a key time but I was there Friday 11 AM to Sat next morning and all day Friday I saw 10-13 a good looking girl and all the ones I asked were $20-30+5. My tastes are younger (18-24) firm bodied girls to get an idea of what I call "good looking".

All I know is next time I go down I need to prepare. After 4 girls in one day I was done for.

Louie OK
09-17-06, 18:47
Skay33 probably means the Adelita Bar. I believe that the adelitas were the female counterparts to the Mexican revolutionaries as I think are still depicted on the outside wall of the club.

Hardbarg
09-18-06, 03:57
My trip to Tijuana is already 2 years ago. Anyway, I found some pics i've taken within Adelaide Bar (i think it was adelaide).

Look at the one with blonde hairs: she called herself Africa and was a real sex bomb.

I'm wondering if she is still in business there.
Yep, that's Adelitas before the remodel, and that looks like Africa at the brass pole. An impressive physical specimen, especially if you prefer solid over slim. Havn't seen her for at least a few months.

Lascivious
09-18-06, 20:39
I know it's been posted before but just in case anyone is interested in the history of the Soldaderas of the mex rev:

http://www.ic.arizona.edu/ic/mcbride/ws200/mex-jand.htm

http://www.ic.arizona.edu/ic/mcbride/ws200/woman.gif

Skay33
09-18-06, 21:14
Yes - these are the kind of women with 'pepper in their butt' - always a pleasure to fuck with them lol.

Marvin
09-20-06, 19:17
Does anyone know if Sara at Bar Tropical is back from her long vacation?

ReallyaNiceGuy
09-22-06, 06:23
:

I made a day trip with a friend Wednesday. It's been a long time and I wonder why I don't get down here more often. Not that I'm not busy hitting it at home.

Anyways, three street girls and one from Adelitas, 8 hours, great fun and all for under $300 US total for the day.

Mike

Great One
09-23-06, 22:57
Could some one please tell me what it is like crossing the border? Into mexico and back into USA. What are the do's and don'ts. Is their places that are eisier to cross? What can I bring and not bring? How long can I stay? What do I need if I want to drive? I have a old warrant for some traffic tickets, would they pick up on this and I get in trouble?

Captain America
09-24-06, 07:01
spent the day down there and really should've done much better after reading most of the posts over the last few months. of course, everyone sees it a little different, but I'm very much a GFE type person so the ST thing and the way it came off today is just way to mercenary for me. One Adelitas girl and two streetgirls definitely left me wanting not more, but something different. Of course I could be wrong so tomorrow I'll go back to CC and HonKong Bar to sample that.

Lascivious
09-24-06, 19:39
All answers lie within:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1772

Mutha Foo
09-24-06, 21:15
Spent last night in TJ and I don't know what is going on (maybe I'm too picky) but it took me a good 6 hours before I could find a decent girl to f**k. Adelita's truly has gone downhill. The same girls that have been there for the past 8 years are still there and all of the girls that were there, I have already done before. Tropical had a few potential candidates but I'm too impatient to do that ficha thing. Ended up at CC before I found a true cutie. Her name was Marisol, black hair, 36 D, slender waist and small butt. She turned into a GFE. DATY, DFK and all positions. It took a small mob of towel boys to break down the door. Stupid f**kers, didn't bother to give them a dollar.

Great One
09-26-06, 04:33
Thanks, but what do you think about the petty warrant I have for traffic issues, will they pick up on that and hold me in jail?

Reinaldo
09-26-06, 04:41
Thanks, but what do you think about the petty warrant I have for traffic issues, will they pick up on that and hold me in jail?

If you're talking about a moving violation I wouldn't worry. If it's for a misdemeanor ie driving on a suspended license or DUI that's something else.

Country John
09-26-06, 19:38
If you're talking about a moving violation I wouldn't worry. If it's for a misdemeanor ie driving on a suspended license or DUI that's something else.

I am no expert, but here is my understanding of your situation:

You will not get stopped by TJPD because you have traffic warrants stateside. If you are stopped for running a light or other moving violation, you have nothing to worry about except the $20. morditia (so keep $20. on you or in the car).

If you are stopped for a violation (motor vehicle or otherwise) and are a flaming asshole, you can expect the call to go out if you are not paying up and the cop is pissed off. He might want to "make your day."

Techically, they can run a check on you (via the co-op laws on pediphiles etc) and if you come back dirty with a warrant, they CAN escort you to the border where San Diego's finest waits to exeute the arrest. This has happened in the past.

This is not an extradition procedure, so the treaties don't apply. It's not an immigration issue either but they could "expel" you from the country under the color of "I can do whatever the hell I want." Especially if you do not have a visa (tourist or otherwise).

So my advice to you is handle your warrants State-side and don't expose yourself to the problem in Mexico; it's no place to have legal problems. Failing that, behave when you are there. If you are stopped or detained, be polite. If you fuck up and get caught, be prepared to pay the piper. If it's serious (drugs, criminal behavior, drunk driving etc.) then you just need to see how it plays out. I for one would not be interested in taking that chance.

Be safe and Be nice
Country John

Reinaldo
09-27-06, 06:16
I am no expert, but here is my understanding of your situation:


I thought he was concerned about re-entering the United States and my comments were based on that assumption.

Country John
09-27-06, 17:22
I thought he was concerned about re-entering the United States and my comments were based on that assumption.

Jeez, you might be right......

If that is the case, having boogers on your license does not bar you from re-entering the USA. If you are DRIVING the car and your license is suspended, they WILL ALERT CHP and you can expect to get grabbed soon after entering.

If you have warrants for your arrest, the guy in the booth will not know that but he will get beeps on the computer with instructions to send you to secondary. In Secondary (depending on the warrant) you can expect to be arrested and taken into custody.

Don't be ridin' dirty. Get your situation straightened out. You'll need a passport to re-enter in a few years. Make sure you're qualified to get one otherwise your mongering days in TJ could be numbered. Good luck.

Country John

SilverNitrate
09-27-06, 20:41
I know this is bit off topic but I just crossed this past friday with expired tags on my car. I thought it might be a problem but the officer didnt say a word. Hope this helps someone.

Lascivious
09-27-06, 23:56
I thought that the passport requirement was to begin at the first of the year. Did it get pushed back yet again?

I hope so because even though I haven't been for a while, getting a passport would be a pain in the tuchus due to domestic encumbrances.

Super Gato
09-28-06, 00:55
I thought that the passport requirement was to begin at the first of the year. Did it get pushed back yet again?

I hope so because even though I haven't been for a while, getting a passport would be a pain in the tuchus due to domestic encumbrances.You'll need a passport to enter the US from Mexico/Canada via boat or plane in 2007. In Jan 2008, you'll need it for walking/driving in.

Country John
09-28-06, 03:39
I thought that the passport requirement was to begin at the first of the year. Did it get pushed back yet again?

I hope so because even though I haven't been for a while, getting a passport would be a pain in the tuchus due to domestic encumbrances.

December 31, 2005 – Passports required for all air and sea travel to and from the Caribbean, Bermuda, and Central and South America.

December 31, 2006 – Passports required for all air and sea travel to and from Canada and Mexico.

December 31, 2007 – Passports or other accepted travel documents required for land border crossings to and from Canada or Mexico.

The proposed rules for the different phase-in dates will be finalized over the coming months, but regardless of the timeframe, by January 1, 2008, all Americans departing and returning to the United States will be required to have a valid U.S. passport. This will undoubtedly cause a backlog in getting passports as these rules take effect. For information on obtaining or renewing a passport, visit the State Department’s Web site at http://www.travel.state.gov/passport/passport_1738.html.

Reinaldo
09-28-06, 04:53
I thought it might be a problem but the officer didnt say a word.


It could be a problem GOING INTO Tijuana if the Mexican custom guys choose to be assholes. I lived for a few months in Tijuas with expired registration. I crossed into the U.S at San Ysidro on a daily basis without incident. However going back in the afternoon to Tijuana I got the customs red light and they actually made me turn around and drive out of Mexico. I might have been able to bribe myself out of it but I refuse to do so. When you pay mordidas you become part of the problem instead of helping to erradicate it.

Great One
09-28-06, 11:27
Thanks for the info guys, it was really help full.

I was wondering about both entering and re-entering. And it is a misdomenor traffic issue, not DUI or DWS. It has been around 4 years now since the warrent was issued. I don't really want to resolve it, in fact I refuse to.

I didn't know Mexico had access to US state records like that.

Do you think I would be safe from being taken into custady if I took a taxi, flew, or walked over the border? Entering and Re-entering? Would they pick up on the petty warrent and arrest me?

Roguesta
09-28-06, 14:58
Mexico probably doesn't have access to your records, but it will be American border agents in which you'll be dealing with upon your return to the US.

It won't matter if you're driving or walking. They may just look at your ID and wave you through, but then, they just might do a check via the computer. For something minor, they'll probably let you go. My friend had three citations for not paying on the trolley, and he never went to court. He was worried about returning to the US. He finally had to go back; they did a check on his ID, and they let him through.

Buena suerte

Country John
09-29-06, 01:38
It could be a problem GOING INTO Tijuana if the Mexican custom guys choose to be assholes. I lived for a few months in Tijuas with expired registration. I crossed into the U.S at San Ysidro on a daily basis without incident. However going back in the afternoon to Tijuana I got the customs red light and they actually made me turn around and drive out of Mexico. I might have been able to bribe myself out of it but I refuse to do so. When you pay mordidas you become part of the problem instead of helping to erradicate it.

Morditas are not a "problem" in Mexico, they are a "way of life." This is also true for many other countries of the world. You really should re-consider your position.

For about $20. you could have continued on your journey if doing so was worth $20. Perhaps it was more efficient and ecomonical for you to return to the USA then attempt to re-enter. You shouldn't blame the Mexican government because YOUR paperwork was not in order. I've lived in TJ for a year with expired registration, the car is still not registered. Total morditas paid: $38.80. My girlfriend doesn't have a license to drive. When she gets stopped by TJPD she usually talks her way out but once she paid a $15.00 mordita.

Riddle me this: What is the ticket for driving on expired registration in California?

It's no secret that cops in TJ are probably the most underpaid civil servants anywhere. The guys at the border are similar. When they take these jobs, they know the pay is low but the rewards can make up for that. One way is to be able to grant access, another is to "decline to enforce or cite." You see, you're not guilty until you accused.

Country JOhn

China 69
09-30-06, 07:20
I have not been to Tijuana in a few years but I finally made it back recently. I just moved to S.D., and I have been to Zona Norte about 6 times in the first 2 weeks I've been here.
I found that it has become much safer to walk to and from the border. At any time of the night it is well lit and there are police posted along the way. I felt perfectly safe walking alone back to the border even very late at night. It's only a 10 minute walk so I won't be wasting money on taxis anymore.
Anyway, I went straight to CC the first night and met Tania, a 19 y.o. from Mexico city with a smokin' hot teenage body. Really nice, kind of shy girl, but spoke no english so we had to get by with what's left of my high-school spanish. She's fun and sweet and even guided my hand down to play with her for a while before we started. I have never had a CC or AB girl do that before. The only thing I didn't like was that she jumps out of bed and runs into the shower and cleans her pussy out for 5 minutes right after I finish. Oh yeah and the other thing I don't like is her long untrimmed pubic hair. Yuck. I told her she should shave or trim it but she says doesn't want to.
All of the worst girls I've ever had in Tijuana have been at Adelitas but I decided to give it another chance. Went in there on a busy Friday night and hung out and there was a super-hot bleach blonde long haired chic surrounded by several other hotties. I saw her turn down or blow off at least 8 other guys and she kept looking at me and smiling as I stood 10 feet away. I know the rule not to go for the hottest girl in the club but I went up to her anyway. Her name is I think Aileen or something that sounds like that, and she doesn't speak much english. After about 30 seconds of small talk she asked me to go upstairs and I agreed. It was the absolute worst experience I have ever had. Turns out she wasn't quite as good looking in better lighting. She had a Cesarian scar and stretch marks. She would not take her bra off. Her friendly attitude disappeared. She was annoyed that I wanted to take a quick shower first. She refused to do any position but mish. When we started fucking she put her fingers down around her pussy so I couldn't go all the way in! And she wouldn't open her legs all the way and she's like pushing me away. After about 60 seconds she's like "hurry up and finish" and I'm like how can I finish with you doing that? I could not finish with her hand down there and pushing me away and I got really pissed so I just stopped and rolled over and she got up put her clothes on, didn't clean up at all and said goodbye and just walked out leaving me there in the room still undressed. I suppose I could have complained and b*tched about it but I didn't. If you see a hot bleach-blond long-haired girl name Aileen DO NOT GO WITH HER!
After that horrible experience, the next 2 times I went back to Tania at CC and had a good time.
The next time in TJ I checked out AB again. I was going to find Aileen and stand next to her and warn guys to stay away, but she wasn't there. Instead I met a totally cool sexy girl named Lucia from Ensenada. She had large fake breasts which I don't like but she was a great time. She speaks excellent english. She likes all positions. She says she is bi and has a couple of girlfriends. After we finished she said "why don't you go back downstairs and have another beer and pick another girl, I'm not jealous". I said no thanks but how about next time I come, you hook me up with one of your friends and she said ok.
Maybe I've written too much so I'll end the report now. If anyone wants to meet up for a whoring trip to TJ, give me a PM.

Member #2041
09-30-06, 17:31
I have not been to Tijuana in a few years but I finally made it back recently. I just moved to S.D., and I have been to Zona Norte about 6 times in the first 2 weeks I've been here.
I found that it has become much safer to walk to and from the border. At any time of the night it is well lit and there are police posted along the way. I felt perfectly safe walking alone back to the border even very late at night. It's only a 10 minute walk so I won't be wasting money on taxis anymore.

I don't understand why this would make you feel safer. IMHO, for most single hobbyists going to sample the ladies in Mexico, walking on their own, the police are the biggest threat that you will face in Tijuana.

China 69
10-01-06, 01:30
I don't understand why this would make you feel safer. IMHO, for most single hobbyists going to sample the ladies in Mexico, walking on their own, the police are the biggest threat that you will face in Tijuana.

I'd rather be stopped by the police than mugged and robbed at knifepoint. Both two times the police have ever stopped me, they frisked me and didn't find any drugs or weapons and let me go without taking any of my money.
I can remember reading this message board 5 years ago and people were saying absolutely don't walk alone to and from the border at night. All I'm saying is it seems safer now, and I'm not taking taxis anymore.
I bought some Viagra last week, and no way was I going to walk around with it at night. I stayed overnight and walked back to the border the next day.

Country John
10-03-06, 00:48
China 69, the reason you were treated light-handedly is because you did not fit the profile of a stoopid drunkin Americano who has no respect for Mexico etc.

Country John

BillyGeek
10-03-06, 08:59
[QUOTE=China 69]super-hot bleach blonde long haired chic surrounded by several other hotties. I saw her turn down or blow off at least 8 other guys and she kept looking at me and smiling as I stood 10 feet away. I know the rule not to go for the hottest girl in the club but I went up to her anyway. Her name is I think Aileen.

I saw her this weekend and I swear she had a look on her puss like she was weened on a pickle. My cousins were all over her giving showering this braod with attention, but I could see that this one was colder that the ice in my drink. I wound up talking to this other girl that was sitting at the bar next to the dance floor. Really cool chick. Went up stairs with her and had a great time. GFE all the way.

Oh, and most of the hotter girls do have C-scars. Fucking road map to ED. Next time turn her around or doggy style it, or just keep the light off.

Crash Helmet
10-03-06, 09:55
I applied for my SENTRI pass many a moon ago. Today I called them up to find out what's taking so long, and I was unable to talk to a live person. That was a first. I've called a ton of times in the last few months to check on the status of my application, and I was always able to speak to a Border Patrol agent.

They have a recording that says they have a new "online system." And so I go to their website and I don't see a link anywhere that directs you to their new fancy shmancy online system.

Does anyone know what's going on with their new online system and or how to get a friggin SENTRI pass nowadays?

http://www.cbp.gov/

Country John
10-03-06, 22:32
And so I go to their website and I don't see a link anywhere that directs you to their new fancy shmancy online system.

Does anyone know what's going on with their new online system and or how to get a friggin SENTRI pass nowadays?

http://www.cbp.gov/

Your tax dollars sound asleep. Sentri passes are running between 8 and 12 months. The best way to check status is to walk up to the booth at the crossing and ask the nice guard to check for you. Ask in a polite way, like you're kissing his ass. They love believeing that your happiness depends on their charity. Mutherfuckers.

Country John

Reinaldo
10-04-06, 05:00
.

They have a recording that says they have a new "online system." And so I go to their website and I don't see a link anywhere that directs you to their new fancy shmancy online system.
http://www.cbp.gov/

Unless they've changed their message recently it says they're IN THE PROCESS of going to an online system.

Crash Helmet
10-04-06, 09:15
My as yet unprocessed application is already 10 months old. It used to be that you could call up the SENTRI office there in Otay to check on the status of an application. But now they have a voice message with no option of speaking to a Border Patrol agent. I did leave a message.

I can only hope that government agent who listens to it is in a good mood and determines from the sound of my voice that I am a decent person worthy of the basic needs of human life such as stale breadsticks and moldy drinking water. If that happens, maybe they'll decide to call me back and tell me just what the hell is up. If not, I'll have to go there myself and inquire in person.

I hear that the new online system may not be up and running until early 2007. That information is heresay, and not verified. If that is true, anyone aspiring to obtain a SENTRI pass will just have to wait until then.

Surfer
10-04-06, 23:15
All this flaming of Steve for giving his honest opinion about TJ is unfair. Hate to break it to mongers who have only the US to compare it to but TJ is very mediocre as a mongering destination. NOT because there are no hotties, IMHO there are lots of hotties, but because:

1) ST is the norm;
2) paranoia about posting of nude pictures on the web and getting STDs from giving bbbjTC is high;
3) supply and demand (too many gringo sex tourists comparing prices to the US!).

What I find ironic is that Steve compares TJ to "Costa Rica and Panama, where I do most of my mongering". While CR & Panama may be a bit better than TJ, they are still "latin lite" (i.e. for guys without the Spanish skills or the cojones to go to the REAL MONGERING PARADISES FURTHER SOUTH). I went to Costa Rica once in 1988 and it was filled with non Spanish speaking ugly Americans EVEN BACK THEN! Been to Panama a few times in the early 90s to surf, and got my first taste of Colombianas (this was the Miami Vice era when Colombia was much more dangerous than now), but once you taste Colombiana in her natural element the overpriced ones in Panama City and San Jose will lose all appeal.

Guys go to CR and Panama because they are perceived as safe, you can get by just speaking English, and flights from the wasteland are numerous.

Peru & Colombia are SO MUCH BETTER that to compare them to Costa Rica or Panama is an exercise in futilty.

I quite enjoy TJ for what it is, a very convenient place to monger for a weekend or so that blows doors on the repressed wasteland. But for guys taking an actual vacation for the purpose of mongering, GO SOUTH!

I would not usually admit this on a forum read by so many American sex tourists but the cat is out of the bag so to speak. While I still love Colombia, as a mongering destination it has lost a LOT of its appeal over the last 4 or 5 years due to the influx. Read ISG's Colombia folders, Medellin and Cartagena in particular, and you'll see what I mean.

Everything being relastive, however, the number of gringo sex tourists on the ground is less than 1% of the number in TJ on any given night.

Country John
10-05-06, 00:40
Hello Surfer and thanks for your input. I'm not sure "flaming" would be an appropriate characterization in the responses to Steve's posts.

What I got was not an "opinion" as much as an attempt to present the uninitiated with a factual reality when in fact the reality is somewhat in contrast. This is what was pointed out to Steve by myself and I beilive a few others with a bit more time on the street.

Certainly TJ is not for everyone but those of us who have "tamed the beast" through hard work and dedication to the hobby have discovered that, when you turn the thing over, it's got a real soft and tender side (if you know what I mean).

I read Steve's TR with great interest. I'm always interested in the opinion of others with much experience in other markets. While I am no globe-trotter, I've mongered far and wide but now have a house in TJ where I've settled in well and experienced mucu of what others miss on a short swing through.

I don't want anyone to mis-understand or mis-interpret an opinion expressed incidental to a short term visit as the gospel truth when there is so much more to know.

Be safe and be nice

Country John

Surfer
10-05-06, 04:06
A VERY reasoned and calm response, thanks CJ.

For the record I was NOT referring to your responses to Steve (more it was Rookie51's posts to which I was refering). You obviously have paid your dues in TJ so you get the best it has to offer.

While I have been going there on and off for 30 years (I was literally 14 on my first trip and will NEVER forget seeing the streetwalkers and HEARING about the infamous donkeyshow), I have never really gotten that deep into it. I did have a regular at the long defunct 5th Avenue Massage (up on the hill), but TJ was always a "filler" for me inbetween trips to more exotic venues.

I find it erratic; some nights I have a GREAT time and think "this aint so bad", but other nights I leave thinking "why do I even bother"?

Cheers CJ; I'll report back next week on how this weekend goes although I doubt I will run into you (as you no longer go to the Barrio Norte). I have gone to the Clubs near Aguas Calientes Race Track, La Cueva del Peludo is the one I remember, and there are VERY few gringos over there, yet it is still ST based and I MUCH prefer the all nighters I get in South America. There is NOTHING I hate more than the dreaded knock on the door to announce your time is up (often BEFORE the 30 minutes has expired, especially on busy weekend nights-I now state the time, in Spanish, when we arrive so if the knock comes early I start screaming at them in Spanish that my 30 minutes is not up until X o clock. )

There is still a lot to like there, and when you find that one gem among the rhinestones (as it sounds like you have) you really need search no further.

Blue Nose
10-05-06, 04:07
I'd rather be stopped by the police than mugged and robbed at knifepoint. Both two times the police have ever stopped me, they frisked me and didn't find any drugs or weapons and let me go without taking any of my money.
I can remember reading this message board 5 years ago and people were saying absolutely don't walk alone to and from the border at night. All I'm saying is it seems safer now, and I'm not taking taxis anymore.
I bought some Viagra last week, and no way was I going to walk around with it at night. I stayed overnight and walked back to the border the next day.
China, you are absolutely right about the cops in TJ. Yes, they are all crooked, but since you were smart enough to read this forum before going over, you also know what you should and should not be carrying. As long as you have photo ID and are NOT carrying any kind of drug or weapon, then you should be fine. I say should, because if you are under the influence of too much alcohol or drugs or if you are a beligerent asshole then they can and will detain you and even throw you in jail. I have been stopped twice now, and while it was a bit scary I just stayed cool and tried my best to act respectful. I was frisked, but after they checked my ID and determined that I was not carrying anything they just let me go.

In general, I think it's best to avoid the police in TJ, and this is definitely true at night when, under the cover of darkness, the police really take advantage of gringos. It's best to avoid walking by the cops at night if there is nobody else around, since in that scenario they almost definitely will stop and frisk you. For my take, I think you're totally fine walking during the day, but at night, especially late at night, you may want to consider taking a cab to the border just to avoid the hassle of being frisked. As long as you're clean, nothing will probably come of it, but why bother with hassle as well as taking the risk of them planting something on you. For $3, it can be avoided.

Blue Nose

Blue Nose
10-05-06, 04:21
There is NOTHING I hate more than the dreaded knock on the door to announce your time is up (often BEFORE the 30 minutes has expired, especially on busy weekend nights-I now state the time, in Spanish, when we arrive so if the knock comes early I start screaming at them in Spanish that my 30 minutes is not up until X o clock. )

Surfer, you can get around the 30 minute rule with a chica and go for a TLN session if you play your cards right. You sound like you have a lot of experience with this in Columbia and Peru, so I won't bore you with what I think is the best approach. However, I will tell you that your best chances for TLN in TJ is to go off the beaten track a bit into the clubs that are rarely or never mentioned on this board.

If you want TLN, forget about AB, CC or HK. The real TLN gold in TJ is mined in the clubs where the locals hang. There, with few gringos, you will be a bit more of a novelty and the girls will likely be semi-pro or even amateurs working for a few extra pesos. Many will leave with you for TLN for quite a reasonable (by TJ standards) price. I rarely pay more than $100 for a TLN session, and even then I could probably bargain lower, but my guilty conscience does not allow it. My advice is to have a good hotel room lined up in advance so you have a place to go, and go early so that you can spend some time evaluating and getting to know the girl. She will feel more comfortable with you, and more likely to go TLN, if you have chatted a bit with her and had a drink or two. TJ isn't South America or Eastern Europe, but it is still possible to have a really great time for relatively cheap. Have fun!

Blue Nose

Surfer
10-06-06, 02:55
BlueNose:

Excellent advice. I SHOULD get off the beaten track to low profile bars with no gringos as my Spanish skills are quite solid, but I must confess I never really make the effort to arrange allnighters in TJ. Thinking about it, I must confess that there is an ambience in the Barrio Norte you really do not get in Peru or Colombia and I have more fun walking around and flirting with the streetwalkers than I do having sex with them! Strange as this sounds, I often WISH there was a place like HK bar that is fun just to hang out at. In SA, it is more common to merely pick the chica then go to her room or your hotel and VERY few places have fun strip shows (let alone the shaving cream shows) that make HK so much fun.

A comment about the boys in Blue: keep your cool, be VERY respectful (preferably in Spanish) and often you can escape sin mordida. Only once did I have to pay; I was walking somewhere I should (in fact EVERYBODY should pasy heed to this: do NOT walk further North than the street with Adelitas as that area is a drug supermarket and cops LOOK AND WAIT for gringos going up there. I was just strolling with my friend when they pounced on us; he took off running but feeling I was doing nothing illegal I did not. They found no drugs, but did find my pocketrocket. So they gave me the spiel about it being illegal in Mexico (not true, I heard Victoria's Secrtet sells them in Mexico) and drove me around in the back of the car for close to an hour (I offered no bribe!) The driver, a guy, kept asking the female cop if she wanted it and would buzz her on the arm etc.

I was patient (I commented that it was kinda cool cruising around the barrio in the back of their car) as they tried the usual tricks to get me to offer them money. Eventually I offered him $20 to give it back (they cost $25!) and let me go (which they accepted in a heartbeat). Headed back to Adelitas and put the pocketrocket to work on the first decent flacita I encountered.

Adult Fun
10-07-06, 22:40
Are there any legit escort services in TJ?

Is carrying 1 viagra tablet illegal?

Thanks

Apache
10-08-06, 19:00
Are there any legit escort services in TJ?

Is carrying 1 viagra tablet illegal?

ThanksYes & yes.

I know of two honest escort operators with very fine chicas and yes, getting caught with viagra without a mexican prescription can get you in trouble (translation: you'll have to pay a bribe to the cops).

Ninguno Especial
10-08-06, 20:54
Are there any legit escort services in TJ?

Is carrying 1 viagra tablet illegal?

ThanksYes but operated by gringos I believe they post on other sites and Craiglist.

1 tablet is legal but YMMV. It's all up the the cop if he thinks he can intimidate a bribe out of you but they are non-prescription in Mexico. Not legal to bring them back to US though.

Country John
10-09-06, 21:19
Yes but operated by gringos I believe they post on other sites and Craiglist.

1 tablet is legal but YMMV. It's all up the the cop if he thinks he can intimidate a bribe out of you but they are non-prescription in Mexico. Not legal to bring them back to US though.

There are two excellent agencies in TJ. One run by a Gringo and the other is a non-Gringo. Both are outstanding guys, the services are excellent and safe.

There is controversy over the viagra issue. On the list of medications for which a prescription is REQUIRED, it SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDES medications to treat erectile dysfunction.

Others have said this is bullshit. But the document says what it says, Country John did not author the document.

The cops will search for Viagra and if they find it they will intimidate you into paying a mordita so be prepared - keep an extra $20 tucked in your sock. Take the Viagra IN THE PHARMACY, don't wait until you leave.

Mongers are doing Viagra like candy. You guys really need to "bone up" on this stuff. Talk to your doctor or ANY doctor.

Be safe and Be Nice
Country John

China 69
10-10-06, 06:21
FYI here's the pricing I've gotten on Viagra. I have bought from a couple of pharmacies in the area right after the taxi stand but before the Tijuana River bridge. I have never bought on Revolution.
Authentic Pfizer 100 mg: $12 each
Authentic Pfizer 50 mg: $9 each
Generic viagra 100 mg: $5 each

I was told there is no 50 mg generic. 100 mg is way too much for me so I bought the generic and the pharmacist offered to split them in half with his pill-cutter. Pretty cheap, only $2.50 per dose. The Pfizer pills are individually packaged, the generic is not and just comes out of a bottle.
I read that viagra can't be cut in pieces because the medicine may not be uniformly distributed in the pill, but every half-pill I've tried has worked just fine.
If you want to buy a bunch of pills in the daytime and then go straight across the border back to the US, then you probably don't need to worry about getting busted by the TJ police.

Country John
10-10-06, 17:35
FYI here's the pricing I've gotten on Viagra. I have bought from a couple of pharmacies in the area right after the taxi stand but before the Tijuana River bridge. I have never bought on Revolution.
Authentic Pfizer 100 mg: $12 each
Authentic Pfizer 50 mg: $9 each
Generic viagra 100 mg: $5 each

I was told there is no 50 mg generic. 100 mg is way too much for me so I bought the generic and the pharmacist offered to split them in half with his pill-cutter. Pretty cheap, only $2.50 per dose. The Pfizer pills are individually packaged, the generic is not and just comes out of a bottle.
I read that viagra can't be cut in pieces because the medicine may not be uniformly distributed in the pill, but every half-pill I've tried has worked just fine.
If you want to buy a bunch of pills in the daytime and then go straight across the border back to the US, then you probably don't need to worry about getting busted by the TJ police.

DO NOT TELL PEOPLE TO PURCHASE MEDICATIONS WITHOUT A PRESCRIPTION IN TIJUANA AND THEN ATTEMPT TO RE-ENTER THE USA. IT IS ILLEGAL. IT IS NOT PERMITTED. YOU COULD HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE LAW.

DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT "buy a bunch of pills in the daytime and then go straight across the border back to the US." One person who tried that a few years ago is in jail right now. Mind you, he had about 3000 pills, but that's not the point. How many is a "bunch?" Don't take the chance.

If you fuck this up, and an entry is made in the US Customs/Homeland Security computer that YOU (Insert your passport number here) were detained because you had a "quantity of prescription drugs without a valid prescription" on your person then you can look forward to a lovely interview every time you cross, provided you don't get real stupid and end up in jail.

If you want to avoid TJPD then take the pill in the drugstore. The whole idea is that you want to have a solid woody for mucho sexo con latinas, si? OK. Then don't worry about smuggling this stuff back to the USA.

The real deal Viagra can be cut in half, no problem. The drug store guy is bullshitting you.

Sheesh...

Be Safe and Be Nice

Country John

Firedsup
10-11-06, 00:08
Guys,

Listen to Country John I have been going down to T.J. for many years since at least 1969, lot whorring lot of stupid atuff as a young man, but I swear never ever try to bring anything back as far as pills are concerned does not make a difference if you buy viagra and end up in jail.

Take them before leaving pharmacy, enjoy, do all the tings you want to do, do not carry any pills.

Ask the pharmacy for a doctor and get a prescription on the mexican side, cost $25, or a little more, but do not take across border not legal, legal in T.J. but that prescription means nothing crossing the border. And what it does for your record for entering and leaving is something you do not want.

Friendly warning guys. Enjoy, and happy hunting

Guy #2
10-11-06, 04:11
I drove into Tijuana and got pulled over within 20 minutes. They looked at my prescription bottle for allergies and said it was "drugs". The crooked cops then demanded a 200 fine or go to the station. I paid up and was not going to risk getting ass fucked in a Tijiuana police station. The cops target cars with American plates.

China 69
10-11-06, 04:12
DO NOT TELL PEOPLE TO PURCHASE MEDICATIONS WITHOUT A PRESCRIPTION IN TIJUANA AND THEN ATTEMPT TO RE-ENTER THE USA. IT IS ILLEGAL. IT IS NOT PERMITTED. YOU COULD HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE LAW.


I wasn't telling anybody to do anything, I was just sharing information.
Yeah, it would be pretty stupid to smuggle thousands of pills into the USA.

Country John
10-11-06, 17:26
I drove into Tijuana and got pulled over within 20 minutes. They looked at my prescription bottle for allergies and said it was "drugs". The crooked cops then demanded a 200 fine or go to the station. I paid up and was not going to risk getting ass fucked in a Tijiuana police station. The cops target cars with American plates.

Is that 200 pesos or 200 dollars? Don't tell me you paid 200 dollars for having prescription medication AND a valid prescription....please.....

If you have a prescription for the medication (drugs) in the bottle, NEVER pay the cops. NEVER NEVER.

It doesn't matter what they say. You should demandto see the judge. Make sure you get the cops name and the unit number. Don' let these bandits with badges rip you off. If you demand to see the judge (in a firm but polite way) the cop will back off. Guaranteed.

If you have a prescription that is valid, current and for the meds in the bottle, you are ok legally. If you have a prescription for Viagra and have 300 pills with you then you will have a problem. Be reasonable in what you bring across. Bring enough meds for your stay. If you are going to be in TJ for the weekend, don't bring a three month supply.

One mistake people make is that they become assholes. That can get you a 2 hour tour of TJ from the back seat of a police unit.

TJPD know within 3 seconds if you are easily intimidated and if so, they know it's pay dirt.

Be safe and Be Nice
Country John

Mars Blackmon
10-11-06, 17:51
What's up bro's?

I go to the dentist down there. Even if its for just a cleaning or check up nothing serious. I was lucky to find a good clean one. Jus go in grab a phamphlet / card (remember to bring a prescription bottle from home) hit the pharmacies down stairs with a wad of cotton in your mouth. Get 10 bucks. Azithromycin or any kind of other med you like and about a benji worth of see's. Toss'um in the bottle with the others. Itll cost you the same with the cops. So might as well make it worth it. But definitly don't get greedy, especially in the same pharmacy.

10 isn't gonna get them all takin away from you, or get you in any trouble on the us side either.

I've been getting ripped for see's everytime I go down.

I usually get them from a pharmacy behind the micky d's at the roundabout just over the bridge. But I think they have since raised the price, and I really don't want to contribute to the inflation. Are they really trying to charge $15 per. Now?

I head down on Friday to get a few cavities filled. I'm wondering what can I do.

Generics?

Do they give headaches?

I gave a little, hoping to get a little back.

Guy #2
10-13-06, 01:52
it was $200. i have been told that nothing would have happened if i had gone to the station. but at the time i was scared shitless and did not want to get ass [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) waiting in jail. i know that probably would not have happened. but why take the chance? i still had a great time in mexico.


i drove into tijuana and got pulled over within 20 minutes. they looked at my prescription bottle for allergies and said it was "drugs". the crooked cops then demanded a 200 fine or go to the station. i paid up and was not going to risk getting ass fucked in a tijiuana police station. the cops target cars with american plates.

Hardbarg
10-13-06, 06:19
TJPD know within 3 seconds if you are easily intimidated and if so, they know it's pay dirt.
Says it all.

Kilmarnock
10-13-06, 19:55
Just a quick update from last week (a Sunday) in case you are a "print a reference thread and go" type.

1. The Londres Sports Bar is locked up and closed.
2. Madonnas is closed - has been for quite some time.
3. Hotel Nelson, just steps away from the action, is charging $52 for a queen bed room. The place is nothing special, but it worked out well for convenience.
4. Quotes in the alley were mostly in the 5-10 dollar range with the usual upsell as mentioned elsewhere.
5. The massage place attached to Martinis, just across from Adelitas (look for girls in school uniforms), was doing a brisk business. Don't know if it was good or bad, though. As for Martinis itself, it is a small place with decent looking but very limited selection of ladies. $7 lady drinks.
6. On the night I was there, Chicago was dead and Adelitas was rocking, especially around 10 pm. By 1, Adelitas has slowed considerably. Just one night, though.
7. The alleys had the best selection from about 7-10, and by late night the quality went way down. Again, this was just one Sunday night.
8. La Plaza Del Zapato ($4 taxi) had some fun bars and nightclubs which local folk seems to go to. It is in the Zona Rio, a wealthy part of town. Not a red light type of place.

K

Pico1972
10-13-06, 20:21
Has anybody been thrown in jail from this board? If yes, what were the charges and how long did they hold you for? What happened on the inside? I'm curious to hear these stories since everyone has been talking about being careful with the Viagra and Levitra.

Blue Nose
10-14-06, 20:15
Just a quick update from last week (a Sunday) in case you are a "print a reference thread and go" type.

1. The Londres Sports Bar is locked up and closed.
3. Hotel Nelson, just steps away from the action, is charging $52 for a queen bed room. The place is nothing special, but it worked out well for convenience.

Thanks for the update. IMHO losing Londres Sports Bar is no great loss to anybody on this forum. Even as a local hangout it was a dump with absolutely no action to be had at it. Most days it was empty of customers and chicas. As for the Nelson, they seem to have lowered their price a little - it was as high as $60, but it does vary by season. My sense is that this may be due to Hotel Hacienda de Santiago opening just a block away, and being nicer than the Nelson - all for $43 per night. It is sold out most weekend nights now.

I'll be going down next weekend and I hope to have a good TR to bring back when I return. Will make the usual rounds to the usual places but hopefully going for a TLN with a hot chica. I'll be staying at the Santiago if anybody wants to get together for a beer or a quick tour. Just ask for Senor Blue...

Blue Nose

Country John
10-16-06, 17:18
it was $200. i have been told that nothing would have happened if i had gone to the station. but at the time i was scared shitless and did not want to get ass [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) waiting in jail. i know that probably would not have happened. but why take the chance? i still had a great time in mexico.

even the greatest time in mexico can be tempered by paying $200 on a bullshit deal.

glad you had a nice time. never pay that kind of money to the cops. never. offer $30 if you are going to offer anything at all, and that's just for the inconvenience. next time demand to go to the judge. demand it.

country john

Rabo Verde
10-20-06, 10:54
Well, my number came up the other night. I was walking on Constitution, getting some fresh air. a block from Adelitas. I have done this 200 times with no problems. Suddenly 2 cops sprang out of a doorway, threw me against the wall, told me not to look at them or turn around, asked me a bunch of questions about drugs, pills, and drinking while they went through my pockets, then let me go. I had two 20's left, they kept a $20 bill from my pocket and put back the other one.

It wasn't worth their while to hassle me further as I leave my credit cards and ATM cards in my car, so they cannot make me withdraw money as they have done to some people at gunpoint. I never carry knives, pills capsules or any powders, so they have no excuse to jack me. They WILL jack you for a viagra or even an aspirin in your pocket, claiming you have to stay in jail til the lab results come back. They also work with some of the street bums, the guy will ask you what time it is, and if you stop to tell him the time they will swoop in and claim you were trying to buy drugs.

They were hassling EVERY gringo who walked by, and I saw them throw one in the back of a squad car for "drinking". There are VERY few gringos going to TJ these days, and lots of desperate robber-cops, so your odds of getting jacked by the cops is high now. I also saw 3 roadblocks where they were tearing apart cars with Calfiornia plates, looking for money to steal or a pill or a seed or a penknife or whatever to blackmail the driver. I used to drive across but it just isn't worth it any more!

So then I take the usual taxi ride back to the linea, and got jacked AGAIN by the bandido cops who hide in the dark at the taxi drop-off point. They searched me, asking for viagra or pills or knives, found nothing on me, didn't take the other $20 LOL, and cut me loose. Oh well, that's life in the big city!!!

Lessons, leave your car on the US side, don't carry a bunch of cash, credit cards or ATM cards, no pills, powders, rolling papers, knives or mace, and better to buddy up (they tend to pick on single guys) AND/OR to take a cab door to door each way. These things seem to run in cycles, and right now the TJ cops are particularly nasty and aggressive.

Country John
10-20-06, 17:04
Wonder why there is an increase in "robbery by police?" Well, Christmas is amost here.

There is ALWAYS an increase in police robberies around this time of the year. Lots of presents to buy, you see.

There is also a lot of drug traffic in TJ, there are a number of gang bangers and cartel burros out there who they are trying to locate and lock up.

I understand that most members of this and other boards think that TJPD is one grand lawless band of banditos and while they certainly have issues, that is NOT the case. Yes, there are bandit cops out there. Yes, they are looking for an easy mark to pick up some extra cash for the holidays. Yes Yes Yes.

So be careful around this time of the year espcially.

And "jingle bells," baby.

Country John

John Rain
10-21-06, 05:25
I also saw 3 roadblocks where they were tearing apart cars with Calfiornia plates, looking for money to steal or a pill or a seed or a penknife or whatever to blackmail the driver. I used to drive across but it just isn't worth it any more!
I went down to TJ on Saturday night and took a taxi from the Linea. The cops had a checkpoint with cones across the road for all cars right after you go under the freeway exit ramp. Every car had to stop. They waved on my my taxi, but had three cars with USA California plates pulled over. All three had a single male driver. Further down they had a squad car parked along the pedestrian walkway back to the border. The lights were flashing and they had had some people stopped. Again, solitary males.

TJ was rather empty that night, especially for a Saturday. Police were around the zona but didn't stop me.

Take care, boys.

jimmypage
10-21-06, 15:00
I went down to TJ on Saturday night and took a taxi from the Linea. The cops had a checkpoint with cones across the road for all cars right after you go under the freeway exit ramp. Every car had to stop. They waved on my my taxi, but had three cars with USA California plates pulled over. All three had a single male driver. Further down they had a squad car parked along the pedestrian walkway back to the border. The lights were flashing and they had had some people stopped. Again, solitary males.

TJ was rather empty that night, especially for a Saturday. Police were around the zona but didn't stop me.

Take care, boys.I saw the same thing. My taxi driver said this whole thing was about a new seatbelt law they are cracking down on. It's an easy 20.00 a cop can make if you are unbelted. Stay safe.

Jimmy

Pumphernickel
10-21-06, 21:59
I have to go down to TJ, the Grand Hotel/Twin Towers area on Mon. 10/23 returning Weds. Anyone have info on some fun in that area? My Spanish is passable, so I'd like to meet some locals if time permits. Any working girls in that area or do they confine them all to the Zona and Rev?

Also, I was planning on driving down but am now reconsidering. If I do drive I was thinking the Otay Mesa crossing would be the way to go (and come back). My thinking is that either crossing is about the same distance from where I need to go and the cops are concentrating on the tourist area.

Any feedback is appreciated.

I've been going to Mexico for 25 -30 years now but have learned a lot of good info from you all (especially Country John). Thanks. Hopefully I'll have some input and be able to reciprocate when (or if) I get back.

Pump

Bunky
10-22-06, 04:14
Just another data point on the activities of TJ's finest lately.

Traveling by taxi from the border to the Zona Norte the evenings of October 18, 19 and 20 we encountered a police checkpoint all three nights. The cops waived my taxi through without a look every time, but I did observe other drivers had been stopped. We were through so quickly I can't generalize about who the police had singled out.

I saw no unusual police activities in the Zona Norte proper.

Returning to the border by taxi I saw a pair of TJ cops at the "Sentri" drop off point all three nights. To be more specific, the cops were standing in the shadows under the stairs coming down from the bridge over the roadway from the yellow taxi stand. They had their back to the stairs, facing south toward the sidewalk where you get out of the taxi. It was only by accident that I spotted them. Clearly, they had chosen to stand there so they could see people alighting from taxis, while being difficult to spot themselves. I also suspect that appearing out of the shadows enhances the surprise and puts the victim on the defensive.

I suppose you might try getting dropped off at the yellow taxi stand and walking across the bridge before heading north to the pedestrian inspection building. But even then you'd end up at the bottom of the steps, which is close to where the cops lurk in the shadows. So it would still be easy for them to intercept you. (Which is, of course, why they've chosen that spot to set up shop.)

In the meantime, it seems obvious that it's stupid to get out of the taxi carrying anything that will give the cops an excuse to claim you broke the law. But you already knew that.

Finally, I'd be interested in the wisdom of the group regarding other risk reduction strategies. Is there any way of getting a taxi to drop you off closer to the pedestrian inspection building? If not, what's the best way to walk past these greedy cops? Is there merit to traveling in pairs? If going it alone, is there body language that might prove helpful? Acknowledge the cops with a self-assured nod? Or ignore them while trying to look bored and mean?

BillyGeek
10-22-06, 09:36
If you drive over in an expensive car at night, the odds are much higher that you will be targeted by the policia asshole. A cheap car in the day time has lower probabity.

Take a taxi to Zona Roja and back. You will save a lot of money, time and headache.

Tt's obvious that both policia and militar always try to squeeze money out of tourists. Just be firm and refuse to give them propina. The asses would drop you looking for easy target. They would let you go.I was stopped at a "Reten" around 12:30 am on a Wednesday night a few block from Revolucion Ave.. I was driving a 2003 VW Passat with CA tags and as I approached them I kindly said "Buenas Noches Caballero" and handed my over my Drivers License. The cop quickly scanned the back seat and then immediately let me through with no additional hassles. Maybe I was lucky... but knowing a few words in spanish & speaking in a friendly but direct manner to them will acknowledge your respect for their authority.

Sometimes these Farks just need to have their ego stroked.

China 69
10-22-06, 16:52
I went to TJ on wednesday night and no cops bothered me at all. I walked to and from the border.
Saturday night I went again, there were 3 cops staking out the east side of the long TJ River walking bridge. I used the strategy of avoiding eye contact and not looking at them but that didn't work, they said "Stop, where are you going?". I said I'm going to Adelita's. They didn't seem to care that I was out whoring but they said not to make any babies. They checked my passport and searched my pockets and around my shoes. I had emptied my pockets completely in my car and only carried money and my car key. They didn't make any attempt to take money. No drogas, no weapons, no problemo. I have been frisked so many times that getting stopped by the cops doesn't really bother me anymore.
Walked across the bridge and 2 cops were on the other side of stopping people entering the west side of the bridge.
At Adelita's my all time favorite Lucia de Rosarito was there and we went right upstairs. This is the coolest chick I have ever met in La Zona Norte. I asked her for an hour and paid the $24 for the room. Damn! I didn't have enough money to pay her for a whole hour so she went back to the desk and got $12 refunded for me. I promised her I would do an hour next time.
30 minutes later out the door and walking back to the border. Cops stopped me at the west side of the TJ River bridge I handed them my passport and assumed the position. They laughed and didn't frisk me and let me go. The same 3 cops from before on the east side didn't stop me when I walked out the bridge.
When I was standing in the customs line I was wondering if the border agents were going to start recognizing me since I pass through about 2 times a week. Sure enough the guy at the counter said he remembered me from a few days earlier, and he made a smart-ass comment about why do I need to be going to TJ so frequently.

Marvin
10-22-06, 21:40
I started being dropped off at the yellow taxis and walking over the two bridges. It still doesn't work. Two TJ cops were waiting for me at the bottom of the stairs right where the line ended in the afternoon on a weekday. Of course I had nothing but my wallet and keys. They frisked me three times and asked me tons of questions in front of everybody in line. It's going to get worse as Christmas nears and they need to extort more money from us. They let me go with no money stolen. I was lucky. The only thing I could think of now is crossing at Otay. I have never seen TJ cops hanging around at Otay.

Reinaldo
10-23-06, 03:06
I have to go down to TJ, the Grand Hotel/Twin Towers area on Mon. 10/23 returning Weds. Anyone have info on some fun in that area? My Spanish is passable, so I'd like to meet some locals if time permits. Any working girls in that area or do they confine them all to the Zona and Rev?



The closest action to the Grand Hotel would be the La Mesa bars ie Titanic, La Cueva del Peludo, Nachos which I believed has changed names and further east 7 copas. I don't how how busy they are during the week.

Country John
10-24-06, 01:05
1. If you carry anything illegal in Mexico and are stopped, you will have to pay. You will pay the cop his mordita, or you will pay a fine to the judge. How much you pay depends on what you got and how much you got (as well as how much money you got, if the cop decides to play you).

2. If you do anything illegal in Mexico and are caught, ditto the above.

3. There are laws in Mexico, just like in the USA and you are expected to know them, otherwise you will be stoopid and lose some cash.

4. You do not have to pay the cops. If you did nothing wrong and you're not riding dirty then insist on seeing the judge. The cops will kick you loose.

5. There are dirty cops in Mexico. The current ratio estimate is 4 out of 10 are dirty.

5. Cops in Mexico do not need to have "probable cause" to stop you and you have NO miranda rights. You can go for failing to co-operate. So don;t be an asshole.

6. Several cops have been brutally murdered in the last few months. They are all froggy right now so don't fuck with them, this is NOT the time to be riding dirty.

7. Have your paperwork in order. Your vehicle and YOU must have papers. Have MEXICAN INSURANCE on your vehicle. Sqare away your documentation. Mexcico is NO PLACE to have an accident, even if it is not your fault. You can spend an entire day squaring thing away after an accident. If you are wrong and are not financially responsible (with cash or insurance) you will have big time problems. Don't go there.

8. The cops under the bridge will search you if they WANT TO. Be ready for it by not riding dirty. Do not pay them any money, count your money before you hit the line and don't take any of their shit. Remember, you are in a foreign country. Let them search you. Be polite but firm, count your money before leaving them. Don't be afraid to ask for a supervisor if things get out of hand.

9. If you fall out of the taxi and are a drunken fool, then expect to be manhandled. Yours will be a situation that they are willing to take advantage of. Keep the odds in your favor. Behave.

10. Clean your vehicle up before going to Mexico. It will help you if you are stopped to have a squared away trunk and interior. Make it easy to search by cleaning it up yourself.

11. Don't pronounce TJPD guilty of doing their job. They have the legal right to check you out so you behave yourself and be co-operative. Let them do their thing. They want to know if you have weapons, dope etc.

12. If you have a trick car or if you dress funny then expect to get stopped because that's one of the profiles they are following up. Remember that since major drug mules were taken off the street and they are trying to et dope into the country by other means.

13. One Federal Officer I have breakfast with on Saturday mornings now tells me that one thing that really pisses him off is when Americano Gringos treat him like he is stupid. They get the full monty. Don;t fall into that trap. Be respectful of the badge even though the wearer might be an asshole. Show some class.

14. Maseros, maseras, street vendors and even the girls rely upon a minimum fog factor or stupidity level in Americans to get their scam across. Certain TJ cops are also a part of this group. They believe that you will be intimidated by the badge and become frightened. Some may even fear physical attack. If you resist, do stoopid things or wander off the beaten path then you can expect nasty things to happen. Don't be stoopid. If you're not riding dirty or have done nothing wrong then DO NOT be intimidated. These are guys just like you and me. They've stopped tousands of Gringos in the past. They all lie, most have something on them and most are disrespectful assholes. No big mystery there right? Well, be right there dealing with the guy. Don't be a wimp. This will send a message to the cop that you're not going to turn over for him. He will move on once he finds you are a tough guy.

15. Don't lie. Cop: "Excuse me sir, where are you going?" Gringo: I'm going to Adelitas Bar, maybe Chicago Club and Hong Kong Club too." Cop: "What are you going there for?" Gringo: "I am going there to see the girls." Cop: "What for?" Gringo: "Because I might want to have sex with them." Cop: "Don;t you know that in Mexico, prostitution is illegal?" Gringo: "Yes." Cop: "Then why are you going to Adelitas to have sex with women for money, isn't that illegal?" Gringo: "If it is illegal, then can you tell me why these businesses are open?" Get it?

This might be off topic, but my fellow mongers need a few baseline facts here. Sorry for the mis-spells and bad grammar.

Be Safe and Be Nice
Country John

Monger X
10-24-06, 04:50
Country John,

Much thanks for an excellent, right on the money, common sense guide for our travels in TJ. That post should be required reading for all newbies headed to our favorite place. Its also a really good refresher for those of us who have been going down for a longer time.

Kudos amigo!

Mr416
10-25-06, 07:41
DO NOT TELL PEOPLE TO PURCHASE MEDICATIONS WITHOUT A PRESCRIPTION IN TIJUANA AND THEN ATTEMPT TO RE-ENTER THE USA. IT IS ILLEGAL. IT IS NOT PERMITTED. YOU COULD HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE LAW.You are partially correct. It is illegal to bring over 50 doses of a controlled substance (except Schedule I) into the US without a prescription across an international land border. 50 or less without a prescription is specifically permitted by US law.

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode21/usc_sec_21_00000956----000-.html

John Rain
10-25-06, 13:24
I got the sudden urge to make a run down to TJ on Saturday night (weekend before last). The traffic was light, I suppose because of the gray skies. Arrived at about 7:30 p.m.. Grabbed a taxi to the Arch and headed down Constitucion. When I got to the store where one of my favorites stands, she wasn't there. I'm on friendly terms with the guy who works at the store, so I asked if I could have a seat inside to wait for her. No problem. After about ten minutes she returned from Hotel Irma. I'll called her Miss NoKisses [Sorry, but after being burned here by using real names, I have to use fake names]. We greet each other and head down to the alley to get a room. The first hotel is full, the second has a room. I check in and we get comfortable. I ask Miss NoKisses to spend the night and she has a list of excuses. In bed, we are just not getting along very well at all. She starts with the no kisses routine, I'm not in the mood, so after ten minutes of this I tell her to forget it and get dressed. I walk her back to her location and leave her standing there with her mouth hanging open in unbelief that I would dump her. I guess I was in a bad mood.

I wander down to the far end of the alley and say hello to several friends working. I see my longtime friend, let's say, Miss Gordita. Gave her a kiss on the cheek. We talk for a bit and I tell her I want a beer and will be back shortly. I turn the corner and then the next corner, heading down Calle Coahuila (the opposite way from Adelita Bar). I stop at Bar Latino Amor. Nothing much happening there. I head down further to New York Bar and have a seat. I order a Bohemia and sit at the stage. There is a very attractive girl in a micro bikini dancing on stage. Very cute, but she never takes off the bikini. I look around and see one or two other cute girls and four or five uglies. The next girl gets on stage. She has a pretty face but thicker body. She's wearing an oversized shirt completely covering her torso. She never even takes off the shirt! She has an attitude like maybe she's the manager's girlfriend or something. I decide to cut and run.

I head back to my street girlfriend, Miss Gordita, and ask her to go to Bar La Gloria with me for some cheap beers and dance. She readily agrees, but as we're approaching Las Chavelas, she says she wants to go there first. Okay, no problem. We go in and have a seat. She's never been there before, but says she has a friend that's working there. We order beers and just enjoy relaxing a bit. A girl off to the side keeps trying to get my attention and showing me the gymnastics she can do with her tongue. I just point to my girl and wave her off. A huge, fat blonde girl is awkwardly giving a table dance to a guy a few tables away and it's quite the spectacle. We're laughing our asses off watching it. Well, after a few beers, my girl never does see her friend, so we head off to Bar La Gloria.

Bar La Gloria is a locals dump on Constitucion between Coahuila and the alley. Don't bother checking it out, you'll be disappointed. Girls work there as independents for dollar dances. The bar doesn't have its own girls or a hotel. Fiche drinks are like $3, with $1.50 kickback to the girl in cash. They don't bother with fiche tickets. Anyway, we have a few drinks and dances and head back to my hotel, where Miss Gordita performs a CBJ, then some great ball slurping, and then the nasty. I walk her back to where she works and then head back to Bar La Gloria.

I take a seat at the bar facing out to the dance floor. Some fat girl sits next to me and is soon joined a by a pretty friend that basically stands in front of me. I gently tug her hair and when she looks around, I point to her friend, like she had pulled her hair. She then pretends to fall back into my lap, over and over again. Two minutes later she's sitting next to me and I give her the okay to order a fiche beer. She has a pretty face, and rich brunette hair, and a decent body. She's far above the typical girl one finds in this bar. She says her name is Jessica. She's vivacious as hell and all over me physically and with bullshit flattery. It's not five minutes before she's telling me she wants to have my babies, and on and on. I'm thoroughly enjoying myself. Our combined lack of English and Spanish seems irrelevant and is easily overcome with kisses, hugs, and laughter. Oh, and another fiche, but WTF, they're only $3 here.

I'm no match for the skills of Jessica the Vivacious. The music changes and she asks if I want to dance. I tell her no, but she insists, this her favorite song and we simply must dance. Okay. More fiches, more dances, and much more bullshit flattery. It was a lot of fun, but eventually I decide that's it's time for the hotel or nothing. Of course, she actually has no interest in going to the hotel with me and when push comes to shove, we say our good-byes. I'm disappointed but still had a lot of fun. It cost me four fiches at $3 each plus tip. I did get a photo of us for 40 pesos, just a momento of some fun times.

I circle the block and stop in front of Hotel Cascades to say hello to Miss MyNovia and her friend Miss Flaca. We hug. When I was in TJ two weeks ago, Miss MyNovia asked me to take some photos of her. I haven't made the prints yet. She wants her photos, but I don't have them. Next time I'll have them. She asks if I am borracho. I tell her yes and very tired. It's past 1:00 a.m. She tries to convince me to go to the room. I tell her no. She says she saw me with Miss Gordita earlier. I just smile. She asks how come I fucked Miss Gordita but not her. I give her a hug, kiss her on the cheek and head off to my hotel.

I toss and turn throughout the night. It's noisy in the alley. I wake several times and guzzle water to prevent the headache caused by dehydration. I never really settle in and around 5:45 a.m. I take a shower and get dressed. The alley is still booming. I'm looking for a special friend that works days in front of Hotel Mini. She's not here yet. I walk down to Cascades and my novia is still there. We stand there and hold hands for 20 minutes. She'll be going to Mexico City next month on vacation. I drift away and eventually am surprised to unexpectedly see my friend Miss PetiteLatina coming out of Hotel Najera. It's 6:45 a.m. and a bit early for her. She is equally surprised since she didn't see me arrive in TJ last night. We're both happy to see one another. She is one of my closest street girlfriends. We just plain get along well. She's raising her son by herself, her husband having abandoned her several year ago. We talk for a bit and I tell her I'll get together with her later.

Walking back to Mini, I see my friend Miss SweetLinda walking up the famous Mini hallway. I take her hand and say hello. She is also surprised, to see me. I turn her around and we head up to my room.

Miss SweetLinda is freshly showered and looking and smelling fantastic. She is young and beautiful. She has the softest skin, flawless really, and rather pale for a Mexicana. Big wide eyes and mouth. She is loving and gentle and compliant. I give her a big hug and kiss. She laughs and wipes away the red lipstick from my face. I tell her she is a beautiful and she shyly thanks me. Naked in bed, she is very gently stroking my body all over and giving me goo-goo eyes. She loves to kiss. She is so fresh, just out of the shower, so I decide to slurp on her down under for the first time. Later, she gives a wonderful CBJ while my fingers explore her body. There's no rush with her. She is amazing, a total sweetheart. Her goal is to please. Afterwards, I shower and a take short nap.

I decide to see if my friend Miss PetiteLatina is around, but she isn't right now. I walk up to Revolucion to go to the ATM and then back down to the alley. There are a lot less girls now at 9:30 a.m. than at 6 or 7 a.m. Down at the far end of the alley two friends are out bright and early. One is close friends with Miss Gordita and gives me shit as I grab the other to go to the room with her. Miss Chiquita has a beautiful face with gleeming eyes and a dimpled smile. I don't actually have sex with her. I just want to spend some time with her. I know, I'm a chump. She's very affectionate and we lay on the bed talking and playing. She grabs two Polaroid photos out of my shirt pocket. The first is Miss Gordita taken at Las Chavelas and the second is Jessica the Vivacious. She's critical, of course, and ask lots of questions. It's a tough business and everyone is competition.

So, finally, I see Miss PetiteLatina standing at her corner. I snag her bring her back to Mini with me. She's dark after a long summer in the sun and I just love her beautiful tiny body and very long straight black hair. She has a maturity beyond her years and is probably the most normal thinking, well-balanced streetgirl I know. We catch up with each other's personal lives and laugh together about my adventures and disappointment last night with Jessica. I'm exhausted after the long night and earlier session with Miss SweetLinda, so she has her work cut out for her this morning. We know each other so well at this point, that everything goes well although I take more work than usual to finish. I walk her back to her corner and stop for a soda and then rest in my room for a bit.

Around noon, I stop to say hello to Norma. She begs me to take her to the room. I do but spend the whole time just fingering her panocha. She complains that her skin is to dark and she wants to be lighter, I tell her I like her dark skin. She asks if I think she is too fat. She has a slender, hard body and I tell her she is perfect. She takes my hand and tells me to rub faster.

It's getting late, so I pack up my stuff and check out of my hotel. I grab my backpack and make a finally trip down the alley to say my good-byes. As I walk past Hotel Cascades, I look over and see Natalie standing in front of Hotel Eduardo. She gives me a big smile, damn, I haven't been with her for a long time. I wave but continue walking. Down at Venecia I pass out some Dove chocolates to the girls and say good-bye, turn around and head back up the alley and then up Constitucion. Miss NoKisses is standing in her spot eating some watermelon chunks. I take her hand and walk down to Hotel Irma with her. In the room I explain my disappointment with her yesterday, and tell her what I expect next time. She's young and immature and doesn't know how to react. We finish our business. She's quiet. I say good-bye and go to find a taxi to the border.

The line is terrible. It takes an hour to get through. It was typically trip, really, some good times and some disappointments. I'll be back.

Country John
10-25-06, 23:42
Mike123, one of these days we're gonna hook up again. Great TR. You're a vet and know that it's a box of chocolates down there in the Zona. Sounds like you are establishing your regulars though and with time they will be a sure bet, provided they are "in the mood."

The newbies and unknowns can be more unpredictable. But everyone has a bad day right?

Country John

Toad Tamer
10-26-06, 08:13
I haven't been to La Zona in a couple of months so I decided to take a quick trip after work. Got down to the US side lot at 4:30pm. Such a nice day, and still light out, so I decided to huff it and save the taxi $$. Checked out Recolucion and noticed 3 new MP's open. One big one above a bar/disco called the Aztecca??

Popped into Adelitas. About 60% full. The ratio was 3 to 1, chicas to guys. The chicas looked pissed, no dinero. Headed out to Hong Kong next. Chubby chicas up on stage. The place is 1/2 full and it's 2 for 1 beer time. Saw mainly 4- 6's here. Chugged my brew and headed out to the alley. Elbow to elbow chicas as always. Trying my best to stay arms length away so my shirt won't get ripped.

Next, I had to down some tacos next to the Chicago Club. Stepped into the club at 6:15pm. I was the only dude in the joint. 12 bored chicas sitting around, one on stage. I was hoping to hook up with my favorite but she must be on the late shift. I settle for a chica that offered an hour for $30. She wasn't any Halle Berry but she allowed me to pop a nut, save money and get back on the road home. It ended up being about 30 minutes and I gave her $40, cause I knew she wouldn't have change.

Good trip. Saw no muggings, kidnappings or assaults. If you know the route you'll be OK. Just remember to bring your passports with you real soon.

BillyGeek
10-26-06, 10:43
Counrtry John is right in all terms. You guys, especially gueros, have to realize that 99% of every Mejicano will resent you. What that means is that the Tj cops will alwasy want to 'eff' with you for the simple fact that you are white. They get on the defensive of a guero coming down and 'screwing' a mexican chicka only because of jealously. This may not appear as an obvious case but as a Pocho myself (white washed mexican) I have been subject to may 'interrogations' while on my mongering trips to TJ. Now, I'm lucky enough to be brown enough to fit in, but many I'm sure are too white too attract attention for their own good; so in my very humble opinion... just be cool, travel in pairs, and do be vigilant and direct should you be stopped by a TJPD. I always keep an additional 20 bucks in my front left pocket should I get stopped and need a quick reslolution to the matter; but many 'puercos' will let you go if you are just couteous and kind, but direct, in the way you speak with TJ law enforcement. They know exacty why you are down there for...just be cool, do not be intimidated, and enjoy your stay. Preferlibly with a couple of friends.

Remember, YOU are the foreigner. Do not imposed YOUR ideals into this country.

I'll be done there on the 3rd of Nov to take my compadre who works at AVN. He is very ineterested in exploring the Adelitas side of life.

Saludos Muchachos!

~Geek

BillyGeek
10-26-06, 10:59
Mike123, one of these days we're gonna hook up again. Great TR. You're a vet and know that it's a box of chocolates down there in the Zona. Sounds like you are establishing your regulars though and with time they will be a sure bet, provided they are "in the mood."

The newbies and unknowns can be more unpredictable. But everyone has a bad day right?

Country JohnCJ,

It's just like earning your stripes!

Be safe bruthas!

Hardbarg
10-26-06, 21:13
Late nighters, there is a new policy that all bars must close by 3am. Some kind of "experiment", but no telling how serious they are, or for how long. La zona was a very strange place this morning. Lots of dazed looking guys milling around outside a dark Adelitas. Lots of policia.

Country John
10-27-06, 02:27
Mayor Hank is apparently playing along with San Diego and the State in an effort to cut down on the number of drunks driving back the USA from the Zona on weekends. That's why you're seeing more roadblocks and checkpoints also when you are on the way out of Mexico, they want first whack at your wallet.

The word is that there are too many drunk drivers leaving TJ Satuday and Sunday morning so the curfew has gone into affect. This why you are seeing a drop in pricing for the girls.

The girls are now more interested in esarly TLNs and better deals because the nights are shorter. Be smart and take advantage of it. It's just a matter of time until everything returns to normal however (me thinks).

Be safe and be nice

Country John

Double
10-27-06, 20:23
I was down for a brief stop over, and saw a cute young lady standing across the street from the Hong Kong. Went over and did the pre interview, price, nude, what, ect. She told me that the girls on her side of the street charge $15. That was a new one to me, she said that her side of the street is $15 and the other side(Hong Kong side) is $20.

For the bargain seeker it appears that you can save $5 just by walking across the street.

Country John
10-27-06, 23:42
I was down for a brief stop over, and saw a cute young lady standing across the street from the Hong Kong. Went over and did the pre interview, price, nude, what, ect. She told me that the girls on her side of the street charge $15. That was a new one to me, she said that her side of the street is $15 and the other side(Hong Kong side) is $20.

For the bargain seeker it appears that you can save $5 just by walking across the street.

There is usualy no touching the tits, no kissing, no fingering etc. She should spring the menu on you after you've paid her (and the room).

Just make sure it's all-inclusive BEFORE you get into the room. There are some very very nice looking girls on that side of the street too.

Be safe and Be Nice
Country John

Reinaldo
10-28-06, 03:24
Checked out Recolucion and noticed 3 new MP's open. One big one above a bar/disco called the Aztecca??



Actually Azteca has been around for years. The one that is new is VivaMex across the street from the even newer Caliente sport book/casino.

Blue Nose
10-28-06, 04:15
Popped down to TJ last Saturday with the very specific purpose of seeing my fave, who is rapidly becoming my novia. I don't generally go for the 15 or 30 minute sessions, except maybe as a warmup so I have been cultivating a whole stable of TLN girls over the past few months. Most of them are the "gems" pulled from the local bars, and many of them are either semi-pros or even amateurs. They won't go the room with just anybody, and will really only TLN with somebody they like.

Rolled into town and headed over to the Hotel Hacienda de Santiago. Great place, but man is it crowded on the weekends! Hard to get a room there, and the front desk guys are giving me lots of dirty looks and attitude (this may very well be due to the "jealousy" that BillyGeek speaks of below.) They, like the cops, know exactly why you are there, and I think it pisses them off to have some pale faced gabacho come in and fuck Mexican women. (Never mind that most Mexican women I speak with, especially the ones who have been married and are now divorced, seem to prefer American men).

Anyway, I got the room and then went over to Aztec for a massage. Great way to start the day, and relax from a long drive and a long week. It was too early to meet my fave, so I popped into AB for a drink and a look around. Usually I just go for the Coronas and the eye candy, but last weekend I saw one that caught my eye. She had that slutty college girl look, like a girl at the mall who you'd like to fuck. Well, anyway, I approached her (name is Rebecca, but I didn't ask where she was from) and didn't even bother with the ficha. We went right into negotiations - she quoted $60, but settled for $50. BTW fellas, some ABs girls are now starting their quotes at $70 - yes seventy dollars. Don't be a fool and pay that...'nuff said.

Anyway, in the room, Rebecca surprised me by starting with a BBBJ - a first for me at AB, and then going right into cowgirl. We switched to mish and then finished up with doggy. All in all, a great session with a great, hard bodied girl. As we were finishing up, we had a good laugh as the couple in the room next to us were really going at it. This guy was banging his girl so hard I thought the wall was going to break. It was like he had just been released from prison after five years. Anyway, I finished up and went to pick up my girly, who finishes at 8 (most of the bars change shifts at either 8 or 9). When I came in, she saw me, kissed me and then went to shower and change while I grabbed a beer and caught my breath.

From there we went over to La Fogata, which is a nice restaurant on Av. Benito Juarez, about a $4 cab ride from the zone. This is a nice place, and there are many middle and upper middle class Mexican couples in there, so behave yourself if you do go, and make sure your girls wears something decent! They have live music here (at least on the weekends) and my girl was very impressed and appreciative that I took her to such a nice place. It's different from the places in the zone, and the food is really good (I recommend the carne Asada). Dinner for two, including drinks, came to US$33. They have a nightclub upstairs there, but I had different plans so after a very nice dinner we headed back to the Santiago where the real fun began.

Mexican women are just so much more appreciative of the things that men do for them. My girl was so happy with the dinner, and the nice rose that I bought her, as well as the respect that I paid her, that she rewarded me with a great session. Sessions with her are always great, but this one was especially nice. When we were done, she curled up next to me on the bed and we just slept. It is hard to describe the feeling of her soft body next to mine, but for me this is what makes it all worth it: the fact that her affection, passion and feelings are real. Remember guys, a little priming ($33 dinner, $4 roses and respect) goes a loooooooong way with your TLN girl or novia Mexicana. She didn't even want money the next day, but I insisted that she take it to help support her family and two children back in Veracruz. What a great girl, and she has the typical sad story (single mom, husband left her, no work where she comes from) that no nice, sweet girl like her deserves.

There are hundreds of sweet TLN girls with the same story as her in the zone who are just aching to be with a nice guy. If TLN / novia is your thing, treat them nicely, and you will be justly rewarded with passion and affection that will surpass your wildest dreams.

Blue Nose

Country John
10-30-06, 03:27
Nice TR old buddy, old pal. I almost ended up at la Fogata Saturday night but went to Las Pulgas instead - La Fogata is definitly back on the list. I like La Fogata a lot. Did yo know about the disco upstairs?

PM me so we can hook up one of these weekends - maybe next.

Country John

Country John
10-30-06, 23:00
Las Pulgas is a "locals" type club with a disco, Banda room etc. Most of the people who go there Friday are single and Saturday is mostly couples with singles showing up around 11PM.

I am impressed with the eye candy late at night. There were some seriously beautiful girls there Saturday. I'd have a great time there if I were soing solo.

It's not a Zona bar. You ask the girls to dance. Youmight find one who wants to go home with you but every one of them are out for a good time which may or may not include a session with you. It's great place to find a girl.

If your presentation is good, you'll have no trouble meeting the girls.

Approach them and say "Vamose por ballet conmigo por favor?" Then get them up on the floor, watch them dance and get a squeeze in every few bars.

They are looking for gringos who care, have manners, dress like human beings etc. So scrub up and go there.

Be Safe and Be Nice
Country John

BillyGeek
11-02-06, 08:13
I was in Las Pulgas a few weeks ago. The place was packed with young people. Some of the chicas were extremely hot in clean, wholesome ways... very yummy to my taste.

How does one pick up the nonpros at Las Pulgas? I dont suppose this standard phrase would work, 'Trenta para fuckie suckie, toda sin ropa, toda la nocha...?'

I need some quick lessons in Spanish, or I may get slapped in the face, hehehe!!!The easiest way to talk to regular senotirtas:

"Gustas bailar?": would you like to dance?
"Como te llamas (yammas)": What's your name?
"Eres de aqui (ahkee)": Are you from here? Are you form this area?
"Eres muy hermosa/bonita": You are very beautiful/pretty.
"Vamos a otro club/bar": Let's go to another club/bar.
"Me acompanas a otro club/bar": Would you accompany me to go to another club/bar?
"Tienes novio/esposo": Do you have a boyfriend/husband?
"Quieres una bebida": Would you like somthing to drink?

Just a note that you should not pick up on any local broad that is accompanied by any local man. Most of the times they are with some shady guys that just might be working with the local cartel who will not appreicate your interest in their company. This is especially true in the Zona Rio area of Plaza del Zapato. The locals call this area Plaza del Balazo.
"Balazo": Bang/Bullet.

Capich?

Be safe!

~Geek

BillyGeek
11-02-06, 08:17
They are looking for gringos who care, have manners, dress like human beings etc. So scrub up and go there.

Be Safe and Be Nice.

Country JohnWord. Be clean and dress to impress, but leave the Rolex at home. Paying for a couple of drinks goes a long way though.

Country John
11-02-06, 21:05
Word. Be clean and dress to impress, but leave the Rolex at home. Paying for a couple of drinks goes a long way though.

Another thing, don't be giving the big eyes to another guys girl, which is where BillyGeek is leading to in his other post.

Show respect when you are in the civilian world mongers. You're going to run into very traditional minded girleys out there so make sure you bone up on protocol.

The number one turn off at Las Pulgas:

White guy walks in with his baseball cap on backwards, wearing shorts or cut-offs with tennis shoes and a t-shirt that is either dirty or has some fucked up slogan like "I Fuck On The First Date" silkscreened on it. Unless you got some long green you're going to be leaving alone.

Now you might not think it's a big deal. I don't think it's a big deal either but I'm not going to bed with you anyway. Probably no one else will either. Break away from the typical arrogant American presentation and present yourself as a gentleman with manners and a good attitude. Believe me, they (the girls) are worth it.

I'd love to get more input from BillyGeek. You never stop learning.

Be Safe and Be Nice
Country John

Monger X
11-03-06, 00:17
Was in TJ yestarday afternoon. Walked across as I always do and took a Taxi Libre to Adelitas fo $3. This was around 4:15PM and traffic was horrible (aka normal for TJ LOL). On the way did not see any checkpoints but did see higher than I'm used to Policia presence with cars pulled over. Interesting to note was that 4/5 had Baja plates. Walked in and my favorita playfully scolded me for being late as I told her I'd be there at 4. Spent a wonderful couple hours before parting company. Took a yellow cab back to la linea for $5. Upon exiting I observed a black Policia vehicle with 4 officers in the customary spot at the bottom of the bridge ramps. We acknowledged each others presence and I continued on my way back through customs/immigration.

The comments made by Country John and BillyGeek are right on the money! When need to remember that we are guests in their home, we should ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS be polite and, if the situation arises, respectful of authority. Keep in mind, its "their house-their rules". As with anywhere you go, a friendly smile can go a long way.

Reinaldo
11-03-06, 02:48
Las Pulgas is a "locals" type club with a disco, Banda room etc


It's not a Zona bar.

Although not a zona bar you will see zona girls there because of its proximity to the zona and because many zona girls like the kind of music played at Las Pulgas.

Adventur
11-03-06, 04:54
How much does Las pulgas cost on Friday eve / Sat eve?

Some one told me 20US $s?

Is it worth it?

Bunky
11-04-06, 18:47
Suppose you apply for a job with the federal government, or with a government contractor. They search this database and discover that on multiple occasions over the past five years you've entered the U.S. at San Ysidro between 1:00 and 3:00 a.m. What kind of inferences will be drawn? Or suppose that one time you enter the guy behind you is up to no good and the database reflects you entered the country 30 seconds apart? Will you be forever linked by data mining with him?

Scary stuff gentlemen. Scary stuff.

======================

U.S. Plans to Screen All Who Enter, Leave Country
Personal Data Will Be Cross-Checked
With Terrorism Watch Lists;
Risk Profiles to Be Stored for Years

By Ellen Nakashima and Spencer S. Hsu
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, November 3, 2006; A18

The federal government disclosed details yesterday of a border-security program to screen all people who enter and leave the United States, create a terrorism risk profile of each individual and retain that information for up to 40 years.

The details, released in a notice published yesterday in the Federal Register, open a new window on the government's broad and often controversial data-collection effort directed at American and foreign travelers, which was implemented after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

While long known to scrutinize air travelers, the Department of Homeland Security is seeking to apply new technology to perform similar checks on people who enter or leave the country "by automobile or on foot," the notice said.

The department intends to use a program called the Automated Targeting System, originally designed to screen shipping cargo, to store and analyze the data.

"We have been doing risk assessments of cargo and passengers coming into and out of the U.S.," DHS spokesman Jarrod Agen said. "We have the authority and the ability to do it for passengers coming by land and sea."

In practice, he said, the government has not conducted risk assessments on travelers at land crossings for logistical reasons.

"We gather, collect information that is needed to protect the borders," Agen said. "We store the information we see as pertinent to keeping Americans safe."

Civil libertarians expressed concern that risk profiling on such a scale would be intrusive and would not adequately protect citizens' privacy rights, issues similar to those that have surrounded systems profiling air passengers.

"They are assigning a suspicion level to millions of law-abiding citizens," said David Sobel, senior counsel of the Electronic Frontier Foundation. "This is about as Kafkaesque as you can get."

DHS officials said that by publishing the notice, they are simply providing "expanded notice and transparency" about an existing program disclosed in October 2001, the Treasury Enforcement Communications System.

But others said Congress has been unaware of the potential of the Automated Targeting System to assess non-aviation travelers. "ATS started as a tool to prevent the entry of drugs with cargo into the U.S.," said one aide, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the subject. "We are not aware of Congress specifically legislating to make this expansion possible."

The Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, chaired by Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), yesterday asked Homeland Security to brief staff members on the program, Collins's spokeswoman, Jen Burita, said.

The notice comes as the department is tightening its ability to identify people at the borders. At the end of the year, for example, Homeland Security is expanding its Visitor and Immigrant Status Indicator Technology program, under which 32 million noncitizens entering the country annually are fingerprinted and photographed at 115 airports, 15 seaports and 154 land ports.

Stephen E. Flynn, senior fellow for national security studies at the Council on Foreign Relations, expressed doubts about the department's ability to conduct risk assessments of individuals on a wide scale. He said customs investigators are so focused on finding drugs and weapons of mass destruction that it would be difficult to screen all individual border crossers, other than cargo-truck drivers and shipping crews.

"There is an ability in theory for government to cast a wider net," he said. "The reality of it is customs is barely able to manage the data they have."

The data-mining program stemmed from an effort in the early 1990s by customs officials to begin assessing the risk of cargo originating in certain countries and from certain shippers. Risk assessment turned more heavily to automated, computer-driven systems after the 2001 attacks. The risk assessment is created by analysts at the National Targeting Center, a high-tech facility opened in November 2001 and now run by Customs and Border Protection.

In a round-the-clock operation, targeters match names against terrorist watch lists and a host of other data to determine whether a person's background or behavior indicates a terrorist threat, a risk to border security or the potential for illegal activity. They also assess cargo. Each traveler assessed by the center is assigned a numeric score: The higher the score, the higher the risk. A certain number of points send the traveler back for a full interview.

The Automated Targeting System relies on government databases that include law enforcement data, shipping manifests, travel itineraries and airline passenger data, such as names, addresses, credit card details and phone numbers.

The parent program, Treasury Enforcement Communications System, houses "every possible type of information from a variety of federal, state and local sources," according to a 2001 Federal Register notice.

It includes arrest records, physical descriptions and "wanted" notices. The 5.3 billion-record database was accessed 766 million times a day to process 475 million travelers, according to a 2003 Transportation Research Board study.

In yesterday's Federal Register notice, Homeland Security said it will keep people's risk profiles for up to 40 years "to cover the potentially active lifespan of individuals associated with terrorism or other criminal activities," and because "the risk assessment for individuals who are deemed low risk will be relevant if their risk profile changes in the future, for example, if terrorist associations are identified." DHS will keep a "pointer or reference" to the underlying records that resulted in the profile.

The DHS notice specified that the Automated Targeting System does not call for any new means of collecting information but rather for the use of existing systems. The notice did not spell out what will determine whether someone is high risk.

But documents and former officials say the system relies on hundreds of "rules" to factor a score for each individual, vehicle or piece of cargo.

According to yesterday's notice, the program is exempt from certain requirements of the Privacy Act of 1974 that allow, for instance, people to access records to determine "if the system contains a record pertaining to a particular individual" and "for the purpose ofcontesting the content of the record."

Country John
11-05-06, 21:59
Many interpret the new tighter controls at the border as an ecroachment on our civil liberties. I guess it's true, to a point.

But I'm willing to give up my condom size if it means that Alama Al Salamamamamamalamalamalamlaamalama doesn't get across with his little backpack.

I still like walking doen the street and not worrying about if a car will blow up and send my ass to the stars. Anything I can I to ehlp I'm willing to do.

Logan5
11-06-06, 05:01
Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.

Benjamin Franklin

Reinaldo
11-06-06, 06:14
How much does Las pulgas cost on Friday eve / Sat eve?

Some one told me 20US $s?


The cover depends on who's playing there. If it's a well known banda or norteño group they might charge $20US. I went by there today and they are advertising a cover of 100 pesos for this friday and 80 pesos for saturday.

BillyGeek
11-06-06, 08:48
[QUOTE=Bunky]They search this database and discover that on multiple occasions over the past five years you've entered the U.S. at San Ysidro between 1:00 and 3:00 a.m. What kind of inferences will be drawn?

The Border patrol or customs usually do not know at what time you are entering into Mexico, especially if you are doing it on foot. When you cross back they will ask you how many days you were int the country and for what reasons. Those of you who have nothing to hide will be OK. Just tell them you were down there for family reasons, or that you were there to visit the local universties for educational research such as at Universidad Iberoamericana located in Playa de Tijuana, or the UABC (Universidad autonoma de Baja California). Granted you are crossing back at an unusual hour like 2 or 3 in the morning, but the main reason that you are doing it is to avoid the long ass lines (have you seen them during the day? Holy crap). Or you may have a meeting a your local San Diego college (like UCSD, SDSU, Southwestern college) to discuss your educational trip to Mexico the next day at an early hour. Yes, the MAN will have you on record as going to Mexico many times, but be creative when you cross back. It's not like Big Brother does not already have your bank transactions or credit report already... Just be creative and plan your strategy from the get-go. Just believe the same lie you tell your spouse on the reasons you go into Tijuana/Ensenada so many times (at least what I tell her:)).

Be cool muchachos!

~Geek

BillyGeek
11-06-06, 09:01
. In furthering the beautiful friendship between USA and Mexico.

Bravo! Bravo!

Show us more.I am very glad to help out. I lived in TJ for 6 years after living in Ensenada for 15, and am happy to divulge as much info as I can on the current situations that are affecting this city. I have some family within the Juzgados Federales that always forward me info on the events that may affect our mongering activites, and I will be more than happy to post them here to help everyone of you be safe; but I add that it is important that it is up to you too also keep vigilant as you travel down south for some action. Read the posts, get educated, and by goddamn have fun!

There are a lot of women that are interested in meeting many nice americanos, the question is if you really want to have a mexican girlfriend calling you at all hours of the night asking you to come down or helping them out. Be discreet with your phone number.

Here's a new spanish lesson:

Dejame en paz Cabrona (Thehameh ehn paz Kahbronah): Leave me alone *****!

Salud!

Geek

Doubt98
11-06-06, 16:51
You give up alot of your civil rights at a border checkpoint. This has been the case since the begining of the country. You know that you will be searched and questioned with no probable cause. Where else in your life can this take place? The data mining situation does pose an interesting situation, but the other side is to look at the sheer amount of data they are going to have to sort through.

Country John
11-06-06, 23:25
Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.

Benjamin Franklin

I don't think Ben was referring to the problems of border control and immigration, problems that did not exist in his time.

When you LEAVE the USA, and then RE-ENTER the USA you have to be cleared just like anyone else and if you subject yourself to the process (by leaving the USA), you are bounds by the regulations governing re-entry.

We can't scream like hell about better border security then scream like hell when it is implemented.

Country John

Hardbarg
11-07-06, 06:37
They search this database and discover that on multiple occasions over the past five years you've entered the U.S. at San Ysidro between 1:00 and 3:00 a.m. What kind of inferences will be drawn?
The Border patrol or customs usually do not know at what time you are entering into Mexico, especially if you are doing it on foot. When you cross back they will ask you how many days you were int the country and for what reasons.
~Geek
True enough for now, but the plans are to require a passport for everyone. Right now it looks like some other, simpler, type of ID will be implemented, but still required, and yes, the whole thing is grinding its way very slowly through the fed process. But eventually (my guess would be 2010) everyone will be required to present a swipeable ID to get back in, and we will all be totally traceable.

But, that's not all. The security types have always insisted that the only way to really protect against 9/11 type sneaks is to track all border EXITS in the same way. You can bet that's being studied.

Country John
11-07-06, 06:57
Border Patrol, Customs, Homeland Security - all of these guys - have received special training on spotting bullshitters when they answer simple questions. When you give the guy a bullshit answer to the question "What were you doing in Mexico?" and he sees the corner of your mouth twitch, you could be in for a surprise.

I have an idea: tell the fucking truth. Unless your wife is there with you, tell them what you were doing in Mexico: Chasing The Girls. It just so happens that you are not the only one doing it. They know it, I tell them EVERY time I cross. They chuckle. They nod their head. They believe me. It's real.

What they think about what you do doesn't matter Their opinion is a big fat zero. Don't worry about it.

If you want something to worry about, worry that these guys won't catch a badguy with a backpack full of nastys.

Be honest with these guys. There is no reason not to.

Be safe and be nice
Country John

Pacotaco
11-07-06, 08:01
My buddy and I are visiting San Diego the weekend of Dec 8th and will be taking a break or two in TJ. Is the 3 AM closing of bars still in effect? That really blows if that is the case. Our usual routine is to enjoy the San Diego nightlife and then head on down for some after hours fun. I don't like the prospect of either-or. If I still lived in S. D. I probably wouldn't care but we only have 3 days. Any news on this front?