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Yes I agree it had some fine ass strippers. I was there a few years back the club opened late in the evening but the quality of chicas was like vegas typeWhere's that place? At a glance given the name Boleros, I thought you were going to comment on the shoe shine guys in La Zona.
Where's that place? At a glance given the name Boleros, I thought you were going to comment on the shoe shine guys in La Zona.I believe it is (was?) next to Pueblo Amigo. But I don't get over that way too often, so can't say if it's still around.
I've heard some really bad stories about Tijuana and it's borders. Such as getting kidnapped or pulled over by cops just so they can make a quick buck. Been told not to go alone. Any of you guys find a problem with Tijuana? I'm thinking about HK or mexicolindobar or cuminTJ. Are they all safe for the border pick up?I can't speak to the others, but MexicoLindoBar is excellent! The girl pictured is the girl you get. Dennis is a first rate arranger. Above board, up front, and honest. You'll be in good hands. His primary driver, Julio, will take good care of you too.
Member #2041
07-17-11, 15:16
I've heard some really bad stories about Tijuana and it's borders. Such as getting kidnapped or pulled over by cops just so they can make a quick buck. Been told not to go alone. Any of you guys find a problem with Tijuana? I'm thinking about HK or mexicolindobar or cuminTJ. Are they all safe for the border pick up?You shouldn't go, because the drug cartels will surely want to kidnap you and ransom you off to your rich American family. In fact, I hear that they are specifically trying to obtain your travel information so that they can put their plan in place to do it. BTW, you should also be aware of the high risk of driving on the highway, and being struck by lightning back here in the USA.
Its like the movie Taken. Instead of hot chicks. They are looking for hot guys like us.
El Guincho
07-18-11, 00:00
I believe it is (was?) next to Pueblo Amigo. But I don't get over that way too often, so can't say if it's still around.Yup, right next to Pueblo Amigo or across from Senor Frogs which seems to be closed, in fact most of the business in the plaza don't seem to be open anymore.
Haven't been there in about a year so I'm not 100% sure, the reason I asked about Bolero was because someone mentioned it recently and they no longer.
Have a website, who knows.
Member #4450
07-19-11, 02:26
My last visit I noticed a group of people standing across the street from Cascadas in the alley. They were all huddled around one person so eager to get what he had, as if he was handing out donuts in Ethiopia. That guy told them all to get in a line and they got in line so fast and formed a line so straight it'll put my first grade teacher to shame. One of his customers crossed the street and stopped 3 feet in front of me to stuff his packet of meth into his shoe. I've never seenI saw it too but I believe it's not drugs, maybe someone here knows more?
I saw it too but I believe it's not drugs, maybe someone here knows more?Hard to believe but YES it is crystal meth being sold out in the open just feet away from a police substation. Sometimes you can see the police standing on the corner while it's going on.
I love seeing it as ugly as it is.
Guitarrefreak
07-22-11, 05:44
I went to mermaid's yesterday 7/20 to check out my atf.
It all started when she sent me a txt msg to tell me she was working and if I wanted to head down there. I played hard to get a little but eventually complied (my little brother did most of the thinking for me.)
When I got there (after making some rounds through coahuila, then adelitas, then hk) , I saw my atf with another guy. Naturally I let a little jealousy take over but did not make any obvious move. Seeing if she finds it in herself to come my way asap. Sure thing. After 5 min, she came over and apologized, gave me a hug and a peck on the cheek and told me that she had to tell the guy that she was waiting for me (maybe she really said that, maybe she didn't).
Anyway. 2 drinks later. We were upstairs doing the deed. 35 for the house. 80 for her. Lots of fondling, kissing and just all round GFE.
We chatted for a while after our session and in fact even went 5 mins over time. She made no effort to rush me. Only the mesero did knock on the door once.
Anyway, during the evening, we chatted about the possibility of her hanging out with me outside work. The mistake I made was to offer her compensation for her time without waiting for her to ask explicitly. But anyways, she indicated she was willing, and we did not really discuss about the details since it has yet to occur. But going to rosarito or ensenada appears to be likely.
One thing I am a little bit still trying to get over is. Despite her saying repeatedly all those sweet talk (yes I know she says it to all guys she meet) , I sense we have some little chemistry together. But when I tried to offer her pesos instead, she indicated that it will be another 200 pesos extra due to the exchange rate. Maybe I am over analyzing this, but was a tad disappointed that she was going to sweat the small stuff. All in all, still great session, and we just had a good time chatting until time was up.
She wanted me to stay for a drink but I really had to head back to SD. We exchanged a few text messages last night and agreed to meet up again soon.
Just a little Thursday night story.
You're not over-analyzing, you're over-trusting, I think. Maybe not, but the fact that she's sweating those types of details points to it being a case of squeezing out as much as possible from you. It happens, but you should definitely understand the signs and be aware. I recently had one like that from Peru, and I cut her off. It definitely took awhile reading the signs, but they became pretty clear when I drew a line and she kept pushing to cross it and get paid. My favorite girl in Brazil, on the other hand, never asks for anything, even when we spend a week or more at a time together. Of course, the week's accommodations and diversions are on me, but she doesn't ask for a dime directly. I always give her a parting gift which is fair, but the more special relationship started when we first hooked up and she told me she'd return in the morning without charge. She did, she didn't charge, I only paid by taking her to breakfast, and it's been about a year of on and off fun times with a very special person.
I went to mermaid's yesterday 7/20 to check out my atf.
Anyway, during the evening, we chatted about the possibility of her hanging out with me outside work. The mistake I made was to offer her compensation for her time without waiting for her to ask explicitly. But anyways, she indicated she was willing, and we did not really discuss about the details since it has yet to occur. But going to rosarito or ensenada appears to be likely.
One thing I am a little bit still trying to get over is. Despite her saying repeatedly all those sweet talk (yes I know she says it to all guys she meet) , I sense we have some little chemistry together. But when I tried to offer her pesos instead, she indicated that it will be another 200 pesos extra due to the exchange rate. Maybe I am over analyzing this, but was a tad disappointed that she was going to sweat the small stuff. All in all, still great session, and we just had a good time chatting until time was up.
Guitarrefreak
07-23-11, 01:44
Well said. I don't quite know right now what will happen, but part of the fun is not knowing exactly what will happen.
Your experience is similar to ones I have had in asia when I am on business. Awesome does not quite describe the experience.
Mexico is a new frontier for me. With language / cultural challenges and what-not. I am looking forward to my next encounter with her and will share my experience w / the members.
You're not over-analyzing, you're over-trusting, I think. Maybe not, but the fact that she's sweating those types of details points to it being a case of squeezing out as much as possible from you. It happens, but you should definitely understand the signs and be aware. I recently had one like that from Peru, and I cut her off. It definitely took awhile reading the signs, but they became pretty clear when I drew a line and she kept pushing to cross it and get paid. My favorite girl in Brazil, on the other hand, never asks for anything, even when we spend a week or more at a time together. Of course, the week's accommodations and diversions are on me, but she doesn't ask for a dime directly. I always give her a parting gift which is fair, but the more special relationship started when we first hooked up and she told me she'd return in the morning without charge. She did, she didn't charge, I only paid by taking her to breakfast, and it's been about a year of on and off fun times with a very special person.
One thing I am a little bit still trying to get over is. Despite her saying repeatedly all those sweet talk (yes I know she says it to all guys she meet) , I sense we have some little chemistry together. But when I tried to offer her pesos instead, she indicated that it will be another 200 pesos extra due to the exchange rate. Maybe I am over analyzing this, but was a tad disappointed that she was going to sweat the small stuff. All in all, still great session, and we just had a good time chatting until time was up.IMHO, she's playing you for a sucker. Or, maybe more accurately, she's trying it on.
There is nothing in her world that she can't buy for pesos. Unless she's living in CA, or supporting some dude in CA, she can pay for everything in pesos. The whole exchange rate thing is BS.
Actually, they do take a hit if they are paid exclusively in dollars and have to change them for pesos.
To demand more dinero because you used pesos is bullshit. I suspect she's just seeing how far she can push you.
Mexican women like the guy to take charge to a much higher degree than their gringa sisters. Maybe she's just looking to see when you'll put your foot down.
So, tell her where to get off. She'll either respect you, or walk. Either way you're better off! :D
played hooky on wednesday and drove to tijuana. hadn't been in a while, and i'd almost forgotten what pussy looked like.
saw an interesting sight. most of the way down on the 5 there was a caravan of about 20 motorcycle cops. i couldn't quite make out where they were from, the city of loma something-or-other. they were headed to sd for something. anyway, there was a stranded motorist with a flat tire on the shoulder. i think this was somewhere south of san onofre. anyway, a couple of them peeled off and made sure everything was ok. the reason i mention this is that there was a chp motorcycle officer that came tear-assing through traffic a couple of minutes later. do you think he stopped for that poor bastard? nooooo. this asshole zoomed ahead of traffic for a couple of miles, then pulled off the road and into a break in the bushes and pulled out his radar gun.
the chp has ceased to be an organization operating for the good and safety of the ca motorist. they are now simply tax collectors for the welfare state. the only time i see chp (and i see them frequently) , they are sitting on their asses with a radar gun in their hand. i feel safer just knowing about them. so, if there are any current chp officers in the membership of this august chat board, *fuck you* :(
sorry, i digress...
made it to sy. the parking lot opposite jitb seems to have an early-bird weekday special. $5, or $8 (memory is fuzzy) for 8 hours, prepaid. i like this better than jitb because it's closer to the bridge. i never cared for the old bridge, but the new one isn't much better. goofy stairs. the risers are too short to comfortably walk up, yet a little too tall to comfortably take 2 at a time. and no stairs at the other end. wtf?
noticed a few changes. i had read some article a while back, and some gay bar promoter was saying how tijuana is such a great gay destination. well, maybe he was right. the huge upstairs joint, club 42 or whatever-the-fuck they call it, across from nelson, has been there a while. the strip joint 2 doors down from nelson used to be some sort of tranny cabaret. now it's openly gay.
walking down primero i noticed that the signage for taurino is gone and, in its place, is another giant sign proclaiming another gay bar. and la malquerida openly caters to both persuasions.
sorry, no field report on any of those bars. :) besides it was before noon, and things looked pretty slow.
anyway, i met a fave for a quick snack, then we checked into the felicitas for a couple of hours of steamy no-holes-barred boinking.
afterward, i noticed that the new york bar is open again. they have a sign outside - se solicitan meseras, bailarinas. you know, the usual. some local joker had written, below the line about bailarinas,"chikas tallas." :d :d so, even the locals think there are too many gorditas in the zona.
i got back to la linea at 2:30. the line extended all the way up to as far as it could go, and then doubled back for about half a block. holy crap! but, i timed it and it was 40 minutes to inside the turnstiles, and another 20 minutes to get through the inspectors. not fun, but i thought it would be a lot worse. can't wait for my sentri.
so, shall we start a pool on when adelita or las chavelas "goes gay?" with regular business down, who knows what management may try.
the times, they are a-changin'
i hear you re the chp, a radar detector has never been more "de rigueur" than now.
as to the upsurge in queer bars in tijuana, it is a latin thing imo. they don't seem to
bat an eye if the chick sucking your cock has a dick too. reminds me of a line from an old
aliens movie "it's arturian poontang, it don't matter"
after a close call in ba i always do the "check your oil maam". it's not totally
foolproof i hear but i can look myself in the eye later.
is the divine ms s back in town? hahahahaha.
played hooky on wednesday and drove to tijuana. hadn't been in a while, and i'd almost forgotten what pussy looked like.
saw an interesting sight. most of the way down on the 5 there was a caravan of about 20 motorcycle cops. i couldn't quite make out where they were from, the city of loma something-or-other. they were headed to sd for something. anyway, there was a stranded motorist with a flat tire on the shoulder. i think this was somewhere south of san onofre. anyway, a couple of them peeled off and made sure everything was ok. the reason i mention this is that there was a chp motorcycle officer that came tear-assing through traffic a couple of minutes later. do you think he stopped for that poor bastard? nooooo. this asshole zoomed ahead of traffic for a couple of miles, then pulled off the road and into a break in the bushes and pulled out his radar gun.
the chp has ceased to be an organization operating for the good and safety of the ca motorist. they are now simply tax collectors for the welfare state. the only time i see chp (and i see them frequently) , they are sitting on their asses with a radar gun in their hand. i feel safer just knowing about them. so, if there are any current chp officers in the membership of this august chat board, *fuck you.
sorry, i digress.
made it to sy. the parking lot opposite jitb seems to have an early-bird weekday special. $5, or $8 (memory is fuzzy) for 8 hours, prepaid. i like this better than jitb because it's closer to the bridge. i never cared for the old bridge, but the new one isn't much better. goofy stairs. the risers are too short to comfortably walk up, yet a little too tall to comfortably take 2 at a time. and no stairs at the other end. wtf?
noticed a few changes. i had read some article a while back, and some gay bar promoter was saying how tijuana is such a great gay destination. well, maybe he was right. the huge upstairs joint, club 42 or whatever-the-fuck they call it, across from nelson, has been there a while. the strip joint 2 doors down from nelson used to be some sort of tranny cabaret. now it's openly gay.
walking down primero i noticed that the signage for taurino is gone and, in its place, is another giant sign proclaiming another gay bar. and la malquerida openly caters to both persuasions.
sorry, no field report on any of those bars. besides it was before noon, and things looked pretty slow.
anyway, i met a fave for a quick snack, then we checked into the felicitas for a couple of hours of steamy no-holes-barred boinking.
afterward, i noticed that the new york bar is open again. they have a sign outside. se solicitan meseras, bailarinas. you know, the usual. some local joker had written, below the line about bailarinas,"chikas tallas.". so, even the locals think there are too many gorditas in the zona.
i got back to la linea at 2:30. the line extended all the way up to as far as it could go, and then doubled back for about half a block. holy crap! but, i timed it and it was 40 minutes to inside the turnstiles, and another 20 minutes to get through the inspectors. not fun, but i thought it would be a lot worse. can't wait for my sentri.
so, shall we start a pool on when adelita or las chavelas "goes gay?" with regular business down, who knows what management may try.
the times, they are a-changin'
i hear you re the chp, a radar detector has never been more "de rigueur" than now.
as to the upsurge in queer bars in tijuana, it is a latin thing imo. they don't seem to
bat an eye if the chick sucking your cock has a dick too. reminds me of a line from an old
aliens movie "it's arturian poontang, it don't matter"
after a close call in ba i always do the "check your oil maam". it's not totally
foolproof i hear but i can look myself in the eye later.
is the divine ms s back in town? hahahahaha.yes. today i saw one of those cocksuckers on his gay little bmw. he was on a short stretch of road, near the house. i've lived here for ages and never seen a cop on that stretch. but it's downhill, and sometimes people exceed the 40 mph speed limit. so, this little faggot was sitting on his bike waiting for public enemy #1 to come by, busting the speed limit by 5, or, omg. 6 mph. again, chp sucks striped tijuana donkey dicks. and i'll say that to their face.
ms. s is semi-retired now, as far as i know. she may be waiting tables in la malquerida, but i think her arriba days are behind her. of course, you may be able to convince her. ;)
MadisonGuy
07-30-11, 14:13
I got back to la linea at 2:30. The line extended all the way up to as far as it could go, and then doubled back for about half a block. Holy crap! But, I timed it and it was 40 minutes to inside the turnstiles, and another 20 minutes to get through the inspectors. Not fun, but I thought it would be a lot worse. Can't wait for my SENTRI.
The times, they are a-changin'2:30 in the afternoon or morning? I thought I hit a long line at 3:00AM last time I was there but nothing like what you're talking about. I told myself I would never leave during the daytime again and now make sure I leave between 2-4am to avoid lines, but if you left in the morning maybe that isn't the case anymore.
2:30 in the afternoon or morning? I thought I hit a long line at 3:00AM last time I was there but nothing like what you're talking about. I told myself I would never leave during the daytime again and now make sure I leave between 2-4am to avoid lines, but if you left in the morning maybe that isn't the case anymore.I found a window of opportunity. Around 8:15am through 9am on weekdays. Right after the work crowd goes through and just before the none work crowd starts to come in. Rise and shine boys!
2:30 in the afternoon or morning? I thought I hit a long line at 3:00AM last time I was there but nothing like what you're talking about. I told myself I would never leave during the daytime again and now make sure I leave between 2-4am to avoid lines, but if you left in the morning maybe that isn't the case anymore.2:30 in the afternoon. Which, many moons ago, used to be a pretty good time to leave. Not any more.
Thank you, Uncle Sam! Thank you!
Guitarrefreak
07-30-11, 22:06
Does anyone here know what the typical price of a cab ride is from Tijuana to Rosarito?
Thanks
Big John 1
07-31-11, 04:09
Does anyone here know what the typical price of a cab ride is from Tijuana to Rosarito?
ThanksAbout a year ago helped a gringo with no Spanish negotiate this fare from Zone he was taking a chica there. Most wanted $25 we got one for $20. Good luck. Big John
Does anyone here know what the typical price of a cab ride is from Tijuana to Rosarito?
ThanksJust after you pass through the gates you will see a taxi stand across the street from the yellow cabs. They have most destinations and prices listed on a sign. Did you also know that you can take public transport (shared mini van) from Ave. Madero around 2nd St for very little. That is of course if you don't have any luggage.
Guitarrefreak
07-31-11, 09:33
Just after you pass through the gates you will see a taxi stand across the street from the yellow cabs. They have most destinations and prices listed on a sign. Did you also know that you can take public transport (shared mini van) from Ave. Madero around 2nd St for very little. That is of course if you don't have any luggage.I never had to travel to rosarito (or anywhere outside Tijuana for that matter) so never paid attention to the signs, I shall start doing that in the future (or at least ask a yellow cabbie every opportunity I have)
Reason I asked is because, I took one of my regulars to a motel after her shift last night and this morning she told me she had no money to go back to rosarito, I only had 40 left in my wallet (minus the change I had to keep handy) and I gave those to her. I was just deciding if I needed to feel bad considering that I accidentally made her 'wait' outside the club for 30 mins (some things got lost in translation, anyway, no need to digress). I was really apologetic.
Anyway, if anyone cares, the sex wasn't as great as last time and I guess part of the reason is because she has developed this 'attachment' to me (or my money, whatever). But little gestures are giving off some hints. Maybe as a monger, I like more the journey than the destination.
I never had to travel to rosarito (or anywhere outside Tijuana for that matter) so never paid attention to the signs, I shall start doing that in the future (or at least ask a yellow cabbie every opportunity I have)
Reason I asked is because, I took one of my regulars to a motel after her shift last night and this morning she told me she had no money to go back to rosarito, I only had 40 left in my wallet (minus the change I had to keep handy) and I gave those to her. I was just deciding if I needed to feel bad considering that I accidentally made her 'wait' outside the club for 30 mins (some things got lost in translation, anyway, no need to digress). I was really apologetic.
Anyway, if anyone cares, the sex wasn't as great as last time and I guess part of the reason is because she has developed this 'attachment' to me (or my money, whatever). But little gestures are giving off some hints. Maybe as a monger, I like more the journey than the destination.Just know that there are vans that goes almost anywhere in mexico. That goes for southern mexico too. Save your money and tell her to get on the bus.
Guitarrefreak
07-31-11, 21:01
Just know that there are vans that goes almost anywhere in mexico. That goes for southern mexico too. Save your money and tell her to get on the bus.Thanks for the feedback. It was a. Uh. Awkward moment at best where I sensed she wanted me to help her out a little bit on the money side (such conversation did not happen during our first encounter.). The awkwardness certainly killed the passion / excitement that was built up the night before. I have dealt with chicas who outright makes it uncomfortable by talking about money after. I guess she was feeling bad about having to ask me herself.
I guess I will be moving on. Hee hee
Hey what is wroing with all of you, I enter this site site.mexicolindobar.com and it looks like a Fail site, like a Girls posing sexy big time FAIL site, I mean come one except 1 or 2 the rest are really FUGLY, who the hell is hiring this girls?
I invite anyone here to take a stroll at the bigger malls in Tijuana and you will see real cuties spinner thin and young girls.
Most of the girls on that site are Ugly, Fat many of them old.
Guitarrefreak
08-01-11, 08:31
Hey what is wroing with all of you, I enter this site site. Mexicolindobar. Com and it looks like a Fail site, like a Girls posing sexy big time FAIL site, I mean come one except 1 or 2 the rest are really FUGLY, who the hell is hiring this girls?
I invite anyone here to take a stroll at the bigger malls in Tijuana and you will see real cuties spinner thin and young girls.
Most of the girls on that site are Ugly, Fat many of them old.Yeah browsing through this site is quite an adventure. Hehehee
MadisonGuy
08-02-11, 20:31
Anyone actually live in Tijuana? I'm curious to see if there are any expats in that area? If you would be so kind as to PM me if you are living there that would be great.
MadisonGuy
08-02-11, 20:35
Hey what is wroing with all of you, I enter this site site. Mexicolindobar. Com and it looks like a Fail site, like a Girls posing sexy big time FAIL site, I mean come one except 1 or 2 the rest are really FUGLY, who the hell is hiring this girls?
I invite anyone here to take a stroll at the bigger malls in Tijuana and you will see real cuties spinner thin and young girls.
Most of the girls on that site are Ugly, Fat many of them old.How does that differ from Tijuana as a whole? You're telling me that the majority of girls in the Zona are beautiful? You definetely went on a different night if that's the case. In some of the bars I couldn't even come up with a reason that the girls were in the sex industry unless someone just loves to screw a dirty fat cow every once in awhile. Mexico is similar to the US in that there are very very beautiful girls but there are also very ugly ones. It is in the top 10 countries as far as obesity goes right there next to us US Americans. I've tried the site myself and have been happy with it, but I do agree I only found 2 girls attractive to me out of the like 50 on the site, but that doesn't differ from anywhere else, there are nights I can't find a girl I'm attracted to in Hong Kong.
Country John
08-02-11, 21:06
Anyone actually live in Tijuana? I'm curious to see if there are any expats in that area? If you would be so kind as to PM me if you are living there that would be great.I am in my 4th year living in Tijuana.
Country John
08-02-11, 21:10
I never had to travel to rosarito (or anywhere outside Tijuana for that matter) so never paid attention to the signs, I shall start doing that in the future (or at least ask a yellow cabbie every opportunity I have)
Reason I asked is because, I took one of my regulars to a motel after her shift last night and this morning she told me she had no money to go back to rosarito, I only had 40 left in my wallet (minus the change I had to keep handy) and I gave those to her. I was just deciding if I needed to feel bad considering that I accidentally made her 'wait' outside the club for 30 mins (some things got lost in translation, anyway, no need to digress). I was really apologetic.
Anyway, if anyone cares, the sex wasn't as great as last time and I guess part of the reason is because she has developed this 'attachment' to me (or my money, whatever). But little gestures are giving off some hints. Maybe as a monger, I like more the journey than the destination.I am confused. Did you give her any money for the session? If so, she had money to get home. How did she get to the hotel in the first place (from Rosarito)? Are you certain she came from Rosarito?
Country John
08-02-11, 21:30
I went to mermaid's yesterday 7/20 to check out my atf.
Just a little Thursday night story.You have to understand something completely: she does not see the future in your eyes. She understands that you have no life in Mexico and that, most likely, you have no intention of making a life in Mexico with plans that would include her.
So her strategy is to earn income from you. There are no friends in business.
She seems to have tested your limits and developed parameters. You're good for an $80. 00 session (that works out to about $900 pesos, a lot of money for a few hours work). You might be good for more, she will have to continue working you to find out how much.
Soon, you'll get the message that her dad needs a brain operation and she needs to wire $2, 000 back to some place deeeeep in Mexico, or he will most certainly die. My girlfriends father died about four times before he actually did kick the bucket in my living room three years ago.
IN your situation, you might be able to sit down at your kitchen table and map your entire route to retirement. You can budget, you have credit, you have a steady income that you can see well into the future. Not so here. It's day to day, or week to week. There is no other profession that will bring her an income that will support her entire family like the sex industry. If she can line up several clients like you, she will be set for as long as she can keep you interested and excited (marketing).
It is totally OK for you to like her. It is totally OK for her to like you. Nothing wrong with that. The problem develops when you mis-read her like for you as some sort of promise that a condition will exist with her into the future. The ONLY condition that will exist will be the condition of client (you) , and provider (her). That is unless you are willing to change your life.
She will rely upon your "good faith" and inclination not to "cheat" on her, and your sense of guilt for even thinking about it. Her talent will be in the area of grooming those emotions to keep you in her corral.
So play the game the way you want to, but be very aware that her needs are different from yours and that her success will depend on her ability to keep you dreaming about her. Buyer beware.
Nicely done Country John, probabltthe clearest, most concise and yet detailed explanation yet of the SW or BG perspective.
Guitarrefreak
08-03-11, 05:56
I am confused. Did you give her any money for the session? If so, she had money to get home. How did she get to the hotel in the first place (from Rosarito)? Are you certain she came from Rosarito?CJ sir. I am glad you asked. I did not give her money for the session per se. Money was never brought up in our conversation and during our previous encounter. She also never asked for money (well, I actually had to leave before she became wide awake, but lets not get sucked into technical details here.). She got to the hotel w / me after we left the strip club. We took a cab there. About whether it is true she lives in rosarito. Good point, I do not know except for what she told me. It does not really matter (not to me anyways.)
Guitarrefreak
08-03-11, 06:03
It is always great to read a genuine post that knocks some sense back to oneself.
No arguments here. I am a scorpio, and in my travels, I have knack for getting myself into troubles like this. There have been times when things turned out to be sweet and great (we can talk about which part of the world this happen over an ice cold one but I digress).
I guess all I am looking for is a way to harden myself (no pun intended.). To be more resilient to the temptations of young, hot nubile chicks by allowing myself to fall into this briefly, just enough to see that she is in it for the money (maybe, most of the time) , and then finally realize that I am sick of dealing with this particular individual.
That being said, I can't help to derive a little joy and satisfaction knowing (or,"imagining") that I somehow have caused a working girl to develop some interest in me (see'mon guys, all of us do like to think that our dicks are actually bigger than they are right?.). Maybe if it is just something that temporarily gives me a place to hide from the harsh realities of corporate america.
But thanks CJ for keeping it real and making sure none of us get ahead of ourselves.
You have to understand something completely: she does not see the future in your eyes. She understands that you have no life in Mexico and that, most likely, you have no intention of making a life in Mexico with plans that would include her.
So her strategy is to earn income from you. There are no friends in business.
She seems to have tested your limits and developed parameters. You're good for an $80. 00 session (that works out to about $900 pesos, a lot of money for a few hours work). You might be good for more, she will have to continue working you to find out how much.
Soon, you'll get the message that her dad needs a brain operation and she needs to wire $2, 000 back to some place deeeeep in Mexico, or he will most certainly die. My girlfriends father died about four times before he actually did kick the bucket in my living room three years ago.
IN your situation, you might be able to sit down at your kitchen table and map your entire route to retirement. You can budget, you have credit, you have a steady income that you can see well into the future. Not so here. It's day to day, or week to week. There is no other profession that will bring her an income that will support her entire family like the sex industry. If she can line up several clients like you, she will be set for as long as she can keep you interested and excited (marketing).
It is totally OK for you to like her. It is totally OK for her to like you. Nothing wrong with that. The problem develops when you mis-read her like for you as some sort of promise that a condition will exist with her into the future. The ONLY condition that will exist will be the condition of client (you) , and provider (her). That is unless you are willing to change your life.
She will rely upon your "good faith" and inclination not to "cheat" on her, and your sense of guilt for even thinking about it. Her talent will be in the area of grooming those emotions to keep you in her corral.
So play the game the way you want to, but be very aware that her needs are different from yours and that her success will depend on her ability to keep you dreaming about her. Buyer beware.
SuperSteve
08-03-11, 19:14
Hey Gfreak:
It was nice to see that someone could take another's point of view as it was intended, and not a knock on ones self. Country John posts many good thoughts. I am a better person for reading and taking in his words.
I understand that this is P4P and they are all in it for the money. If it wasn't for the money, do you think that women 1/3 to 1/2 my age would be going arriba with me. Of course they wouldn't. That does not mean that they are not real women, with hopes, dreams, and desires. They want to feel special, especially since they have to do what they are doing. I have a current favorita (which is very unlike me) , half my age, that will sit with me for a great deal of time, refuse more drinks, and is very passionate (GFE type) in la cama. She says that she likes me because "I make her happy". When we come back down she goes about her business of making money from drinks, and going arriba if she chooses. I will often sit in the bar while this is happening, and it serves many purposes. She can continue to make money instead of counting on me for more to just sit with me. I will ride this horse until it ends, and then NEXT!
I don't think that you need to "harden" yourself. There is nothing wrong with caring. If I can make a suggestion; there is a place in your body that when you are with a woman you like, and actually want, that you can feel intensely. It could be in your chest area, or possibly your head. Understand that when you get this feeling it is not serving you well. At that moment that you realize this feeling, step into yourself and thank it for showing you where you don't want to go. Immediately change that thought to a positive thought about what a good time you are going to have with this beautiful lady, for this moment in time only. This will not harden you, but actually make you happier, which will translate to the lady, hence a better session. Then again, I am probably full of sh*t. I'm sure that she does like you in a certain perspective as CJ so eloquently stated.
It is like I tell the ladies, about my unit, I am not grande I am gordo. It always gets a laugh, and their interest.
Health & happiness to all.
MadisonGuy
08-03-11, 19:33
It is always great to read a genuine post that knocks some sense back to oneself.
No arguments here. I am a scorpio, and in my travels, I have knack for getting myself into troubles like this. There have been times when things turned out to be sweet and great (we can talk about which part of the world this happen over an ice cold one but I digress).
I guess all I am looking for is a way to harden myself (no pun intended.). To be more resilient to the temptations of young, hot nubile chicks by allowing myself to fall into this briefly, just enough to see that she is in it for the money (maybe, most of the time) , and then finally realize that I am sick of dealing with this particular individual.
That being said, I can't help to derive a little joy and satisfaction knowing (or,"imagining") that I somehow have caused a working girl to develop some interest in me (see'mon guys, all of us do like to think that our dicks are actually bigger than they are right.). Maybe if it is just something that temporarily gives me a place to hide from the harsh realities of corporate america.
But thanks CJ for keeping it real and making sure none of us get ahead of ourselves.I admire you for trying to change, but I've seen so few that can I don't know if it is possible for some and impossible for others. I can tell you this I act only 2 ways with girls, I either shower them and tell them I want to get married, or I ignore them and treat them like crap. Either way in the back of my head I know that they are only there for my amusement and when something better comes along I will jump on it. I think as long as you think like that you will be ok and I think your numbers of girls who fall for you will go up especially the really hot ones. Remember the hotter they are odds are the more insecure, which means the shittier you treat them the better. Regardless if you treat them good or not if you are thinking that they are just a piece of meat it will work the same. I don't know how it works and can't explain it but when you really turn into a asshole regardless of how you treat them they will still like you more. If you're really interested there's lots of books you can read that will help you pick up girls, over come objections like not wanting to have sex, all that good stuff. It may sound cold and it is, but I'd rather be cold and have tons of women than be nice and not have any.
CJ sir. I am glad you asked. I did not give her money for the session per se. Money was never brought up in our conversation and during our previous encounter. She also never asked for money (well, I actually had to leave before she became wide awake, but lets not get sucked into technical details here.). She got to the hotel w / me after we left the strip club. We took a cab there. About whether it is true she lives in rosarito. Good point, I do not know except for what she told me. It does not really matter (not to me anyways.)Hey Guitar, You sound like a realy nice guy. A bit nieve. I'm just giving my two cents, but you have to remember. 1st and formost, these bar girls and sws are in for the money. Like someone said," do you think a young beautiful girl you just met will be your toy if not for the money?" Its a fantasy! Leave the love at home. God knows they are. Very few women can be trusted, especially those who spread for money. Just enjoy yourself for the moment and remember, THEY ALL LIE! If you want romance & love, find one at church. Thats not fullproof either.
Country John
08-03-11, 22:01
It is always great to read a genuine post that knocks some sense back to oneself.
But thanks CJ for keeping it real and making sure none of us get ahead of ourselves.Mongers scoot across the border with visions of sugarplums dancing on their heads and all kinds of things they want to do and fantasies to fulfill. Well, that's why the Zona is there. By the time we get there, we forgot all about the grand plans and just start looking for someone to nail. But there are so many choices. Confusion, confusion. Living next to a candy store just makes you go back for more and more and more.
But it's OK to like the girls. They happen to be people, too. In fact, mongers should add appreciation to their kit. Why? Because the quality of your session could depend on it. Most girls will deliver a good session to a good attitude and respectful demeanor, even if they are rats. You can set the tone for the session and give her a "benchmark." Now, she might have one eye trolling the room for your stuff as you glam slam her, but chances are she'll keep the session running well for you.
Some might mistake your appreciation and positive attitude for stupidity and ignorance because "everybody knows" hookers lie, steal and deliver bad sessions.
Not so fast. Not all girls are out to rip you off.
It is OK for you to like the girl, take her as your favorite and pay her a bit more for the extra effort she puts into making your session a good one. All that is cool.
The thing comes apart when she mis-interprets your good intention as an opening to "groom" you into a walking ATM machine. Or if she starts playing a guilt game with you. All the girls know very well that the arrangement is a business arrangement. The one's that would exploit that opportunity on a personal level are the ones to watch out for. If yuo see it coming and don't step out of the way, you could be in for a big hit.
So, like the girl. Always be square with the girls. Pay them what you owe them, and give them a tip if they deserve it. But keep one thing in mind: THERE ARE NO FRIENDS IN BUSINESS.
You have to understand something completely: she does not see the future in your eyes. She understands that you have no life in Mexico and that, most likely, you have no intention of making a life in Mexico with plans that would include her.
So her strategy is to earn income from you. There are no friends in business.
It is totally OK for you to like her. It is totally OK for her to like you. Nothing wrong with that. The problem develops when you mis-read her like for you as some sort of promise that a condition will exist with her into the future. The ONLY condition that will exist will be the condition of client (you) , and provider (her). That is unless you are willing to change your life.Wise words. Even with my favorite SG novias that I have known for many years, they are working and I am playing. We are warm and friendly with each other, but I am a good customer and they good sex providers. We play nice together. We aren't friends, really, but we are friendly. I give money and they give sex, companionship, and affection. It works outs great for what we both seek. Doesn't mean there isn't some spill over of genuine emotion and caring between us, but I am primarily a client and they are primarily a provider.
Sometimes, it's useful to imagine, for just a moment, what it would take for me to be seriously in love with a woman 20-30 years my senior. Grab on to that thought for a moment. It always gives me the sober clarity I need.
Tratnguyen1
08-07-11, 06:29
Gents,
I have known a Street girl for quite sometimes, even before the 9/11 happen.
She was just a very Likeable Girl working in T. J. To support her family back in Mexico city. I Go with her everytime I drop by the corner alley and she was always standing behuind the newstand there. The Street working must be tough on her and She was get Old just in 10 years in the trade and retired.
I like the Girl because she was Honest working for her living and very business, good relationship in that aspect. However, my emotion Does not go beyond the 20 minutes meeting with her.
SuperSteve
08-08-11, 09:40
I made a quick run for the border on Saturday. I did my usual Amtrak / trolley run. The Amtrak was super busy with people going to Del Mar. It was about a half hour late.
I got to Tijuana at about 3:00 PM, and made my first stop a Hong Kong. It was busy with the day just starting to roll. It seemed to me that there were more VGL ladies than the week before, but I also think that this was true of most of the Gringo haunts. Hotter than h*ll, as usual in the bar. Pretty much the same sh*t different day, except for the quality of women was at a higher level. I was sitting near the bath in the upper level and a lady that was dancing on the bar. She looked at me a smiled, which is not unusual, marketing 101 for them. I was just generally looking around when she came down and sat on my lap. I think she said her name was Marisa (at least it began with an M). She is probably about 25, strong pretty Latina look, with a nice slim natural body. She said she was from Mexico City and had been in town for 2 months. Wearing a red bustier type of outfit. She promised the world, and didn't want any drinks but to go up arriba ahora. In la cama she was very expressive having to bite her lip a few times since apparently she did want her screams to leave the room. Other than CBJ (which I don't really mind) , she was pretty much GFE. She really enjoys kissing, and DFK was mandatory with her from the start. She charged $60. 00 with no drinks wanted, or propina asked for. All in all a very good session and I would repeat.
Tropical was a real pleasure again. I wish they didn't play the music so loud, and I usually enjoy loud music. The quality of women was way up again, after a disappointment last week. I like the 2 for 1 drinks also. The waiters kept bringing women by for me, but I had just been arriba in HK, so it was a no go. I will say that the quality of women they brought by was very high. It will be nice when they finish the new side of the bar.
Adelita's appeared slow for the first part of the night, but then later there were many VGL women. For some reason Adelita's is becoming less in favor with me. I think it is the standing around with the hand on the hip, bopping to the music. I still do have some favorita's there, but it is losing some of its luster. If Tropical can become more consistent, it will probably be moving up on the list ahead of Adelita's.
Las Chavelas seemed about the only of the big 5 bars in the Zona where the quality was down. It also seemd like the street scene was really down. I would say that there was only about 30 percent of what it had been previously.
I finished at Chicago Club and had a nice session with my current favorita. As was said in another thread you can get comfortable with some of these ladies. I think that we may be reaching that point, so it may be time to move on, and become friends in the bar only. The quality of the session was GFE as usual.
All in all I think that the percentage of ladies who were VGL was way up over last week. To me, it just shows how fluid the scene is in Tijuana. One minute it's hot, the next minute it's not.
I won't be back in town for two weeks, so it will be interesting to see the quality of chica's the next time.
Health & happiness to all!
I know that Motel Premier is a common place to meet up with local escorts. But is it an ok place to stay for a couple of nights? The reason I ask is that their website advertises rooms at 21US per night. That's way better than the cost of a room on the US side of the border. Heck, it's better than Ticuan (at about 50US per night) or many other places. Better than the dumps close to the Zona.
The photos make the rooms look nice. Maybe even worth it. So is the neighborhood safe? And what about transportation? Is it easy to get a cab ride from there to the zona?
Yes, I'm cheap, but I don't want to blow my savings on taxi rides or put up with other inconveniences. I want to blow my savings on chicas instead.
I know that Motel Premier is a common place to meet up with local escorts. But is it an ok place to stay for a couple of nights? The reason I ask is that their website advertises rooms at 21US per night. That's way better than the cost of a room on the US side of the border. Heck, it's better than Ticuan (at about 50US per night) or many other places. Better than the dumps close to the Zona.
The photos make the rooms look nice. Maybe even worth it. So is the neighborhood safe? And what about transportation? Is it easy to get a cab ride from there to the zona?
Yes, I'm cheap, but I don't want to blow my savings on taxi rides or put up with other inconveniences. I want to blow my savings on chicas instead.Most of those places are for short term affairs. They can make more money with turn over rather than renting it for the night. However I've read on another forum that you can work out something from mon-thurs then they want you to leave. As always confirm any and all information.
Baxter Slade
08-10-11, 18:12
Headed to Tijuana last Thursday to celebrate GF's belated birthday. First stop was Hotel Ticuan to secure internet reservation. I belive you save about 5 dollars to pre book the room. It was my first time staying at Ticuan, I decided to spend the extra. 3 since this was sort of a special occasion. Now Iam afraid I'am spoiled the room was great I don't think I will be able to stay at any of those shit bag hotels again. Since all my recent trips have ended with a night of drinking at Las Pulgas the location of Ticuan is perfect only steps away from Las Pulgas, no more driving through the streets of Tijuana with a drunk chica at the wheel.
Stopped by Adelita's I think it was the best I have ever seen it as far as girl to guy ratio. I felt like I was in a fishbowl there were many eyes watching me, just waiting for our eyes to meet. I did strike up a conversation with one of the few guys that was there. He was telling me about the two familes that own most of the places in the zona, and he was somehow related to one of them. He also spoke about someone in the family who was connected to the Chicago Club being kidnapped. And he was warning me that I shouldn't be out past sundow in Tijuana by myself, due to many kidnappings. Not sure if there is any truth to any of that. Also got a tour of the new construction from one of the chicas.
Stopped by Tropical to check it out since it has been receiving some honorable mention on her as far as chica quality. It was all good exept yes the music is a bit loud. Still trying to figure out how they got there addition done so fast. I think the owners of Adelita hired the wrong construction crew there project seems to be taking forever.
It was about 6 pm and I was getting anxious to go see my favorite. I should know by now the less time I spend with her at the bar while she is working the more money I will save. Now I did arrange with her previously, that if she wanted to bring some friends to Las Pulgas to celebrate her birthday I would buy the drinks. I wasn't at Las Chavales very long and her two friends joined us. YIKES! After two rounds at a bit over 20 dollars a round I had to put the brakes on that. Thank god for 8 pm.
Me and the the 3 beautiful ladies got a cab and headed for Las Pulgas (where were all my fellow mongers. I probably need to find a wingman one of these days). On the way to Las Pulgas we were stopped at a light and a parade of a couple hundred bicycles went by, not sure what that was all about. But it was kind of funny when the chicas started hanging out of the cab hooting and holloring at the bikers.
Las pulgas was alot of fun and was not that expensive. A round of about 9 dollars was good for 2 beers per person. Since I did not receive the usual undivided attention from my chica my eyes had a chance to wander. Not really sure but my fellow Americanos may have a chance of finding some civilian action in this place. Of course it would take alot more work than in the Zona. Well about 12:30 a. M. Things were getting pretty hot between me and my chica, lots of touching and rubbing on the dance floor. So without even saying good bye she took me by the hand and led me outside.
Oh yea I forgot to mention I did call her on her actual birthday she was talking a mile a minute and I couldn't understand a word she was saying. It turns out she had crashed her car, her family ended up with bumps and bruises and she was taken to jail. She claims they let her out of jail when they determined the accident occured because her brakes didn't work. I don't know if that makes any sense, but DAMN these girls sure have alot of drama in there lives. I know I have been warned about getting involved with these ladies. But I guess this is one of those life experiences you have to let play out and live and learn.
So once we got outside the street in front of Las Pulgas was closed and we ended up around the corner in front of Ticuan, she thought we were going to get a cab but I started leading her into the Hotel, she stopped in her tracks and wouldn't go inside she kept saying no to much money. I finally had to show her the room key and said sorry to late I already have a room. She gave in and we headed to the room. On a side note I had left the AC on and the room was an ice box great place to spend a hot summer night. The only problem was no one wanted to get out of the bed in the morning it was to cold.
Anyway it was a great trip headed to the border around 11 a. M. The line was the longest I ever saw it, but it moved really quick it only took about an hour.
MadisonGuy
08-11-11, 17:55
Great report. I love Hotel Ticuan too, it's a great bang for the buck. There's a little MP type place a block up the road called New Wave, it's a little cheaper drink wise and a pretty relaxed vibe there, you may want to check it out next time. Unfortunately last time I was there I wanted to try Las Pulgas but they were having some famous band playing so it was ridiculous. I have heard that's a great place to pick up a girl. I love the story about all the kidnappings, I'm sure Americans are getting kidnapped all the time and it is a conspiracy that the news is covering up. Ha ha. I have a bunch of friends that think it's too dangerous to go to Tijuana but yet they've never even tried it nor do they have any proof to back up the danger.
Country John
08-11-11, 19:38
Great report. I love Hotel Ticuan too, it's a great bang for the buck. There's a little MP type place a block up the road called New Wave, it's a little cheaper drink wise and a pretty relaxed vibe there, you may want to check it out next time. Unfortunately last time I was there I wanted to try Las Pulgas but they were having some famous band playing so it was ridiculous. I have heard that's a great place to pick up a girl. I love the story about all the kidnappings, I'm sure Americans are getting kidnapped all the time and it is a conspiracy that the news is covering up. Ha ha. I have a bunch of friends that think it's too dangerous to go to Tijuana but yet they've never even tried it nor do they have any proof to back up the danger.Fortunately, there are a lot of tourists around these days although Tijuana would like verymuch to return to the old days of "shoulder to shoulder" on Revolution. I find that the people who come here now understand the black PR and are unaffected by it. It's actually better in some ways because the people that DO come here know how to behave, and that makes it better for everyone.
So to those still afraid to make the trip because they believe the cartels are waiting to make lunch meat out of you, I have only one word to write: BOO!
Guitarrefreak
08-12-11, 08:35
Haven't had a chance to log in to check out what's new. Thanks to all the guys who bounced ideas off my original post, its always nice to see one's own post generating some positive interest.
I am thinking about down there tomorrow (8/12) but don't feel like doing alone. Anyone care to join and make a new friend a long the way?
Haven't had a chance to log in to check out what's new. Thanks to all the guys who bounced ideas off my original post, its always nice to see one's own post generating some positive interest.
I am thinking about down there tomorrow (8/12) but don't feel like doing alone. Anyone care to join and make a new friend a long the way?Hey Guitarrefreak, pm me if you want to meet up. I'm staying in Tijuana and would prefer to not go down to Adelitas alone. Went down on Thur night. Adelitas had lots of girls 6-7. 5 range. Hong Kong was not as busy as expected. Maybe because they were charging $4 cover (include beer) on a Thur. The alley was pretty dead by 2am-maybe 10-15 girls tops. Never seen it so dead.
Guitarrefreak
08-13-11, 05:06
Hey Guitarrefreak, pm me if you want to meet up. I'm staying in Tijuana and would prefer to not go down to Adelitas alone. Went down on Thur night. Adelitas had lots of girls 6-7. 5 range. Hong Kong was not as busy as expected. Maybe because they were charging $4 cover (include beer) on a Thur. The alley was pretty dead by 2am-maybe 10-15 girls tops. Never seen it so dead.For some reason I cannot seem to PM you. I got a buddy calling me up for drinks, if tonight doesn't work, tomorrow seems great too, let me know, see if you can PM me and we can work this out via email
Went down to Tijuana this past Sunday 08-07-11 and spent the night there after going to the races at Del Mar.
I took the train to Del Mar, bet some races and was back on the train to San Diego at 19:15. Arriving in San Diego I notice when I went to get my trolley ticket, One way fare is $2. 50. No more zone pricing. The day pass is $5. 00. I got the one way fare to Tijuana.
I had read in the past where the trolley didn't go all the way to the border because of construction, but it seems like it does indeed go all the way to the border now.
After going through the gates at the border, I made my usual right turn to catch a taxi near the Mcdonalds. I used to only take the taxi libres but recently, it doesn't seem like any of the meters work in those taxi's.
I asked one of the yellow economico taxi how much to Addelitas. He said $3. 00 USD. I then asked him how much to Hotel Ticuan. He said $2. 00 USD. So without negotiating the prices were pretty good.
Anyways, I told him to take me to the hotel. Check in was fast and easy. On line room reservations came out to $650 mx. Which came out to about $53. 00usd.
After showering, first stop Hong Kong. It was about 22:00 when I arrived and not too crowded. I was disappointed at the selection. Stayed about an hour and the selection didn't seem to get any better, I walked over to Las Chavelas.
Basically the same as H / k. No real stunners. Had a drink then over to Tropical. You can read that part in the Tropical section.
Since my train ride back to L. A. Wasn't until 20:20 the next day, I decided to leave Tijuana early just so I wouldn't have to worry about not getting over in time. Not knowing how long the lines would be.
I decided to take the Mexicoach over to the border. The cost was $4. 00 USD. Basically the same price as a taxi, with the exception that if the lines were long, at least I would be sitting, instead of standing in line.
We left the Mexicoach station around 14:30 and I was out of Immigration at 16:00. Looking out the window of the bus, the line for the walk. Up was all the way up the hill. It probably would have been faster to walk, but it would have been at least an hour. I think I made the right decision.
Got to the gas lamp district around 17:00, grabbed a quick bite and saw a movie that started at 17:30. The movie finished around 19:30. Then walked up to the trolley station on 5th av. And took it to the train depot.
Arrived at the depot about 20:00, waited another 10 minute before boarding the train back to reality.
Almost forgot, with the AAA discount the roundtrip train fare with a stop in Del Mar came out to $66. 00 USD.
Hopefully my next trip back to Tijuana. Will be shorter than the six months between this trip.
Guitarrefreak
08-14-11, 09:05
But once in a while I get the weirdest feelings that it no longer is as fun as it use to be. Maybe its just a matter with the routine, or starting to recognize the chicas who work at the different stores. The excitement factor has certainly diminished.
Anyway tonight is the shortest night I have ever stayed down there. Crossing the border at around 8pm, and heading back to SD around 9:30.
Checked out the adelitas first. Usual pickings al beit a little slim tonight. Recognized a few and the only one that caught my attention, I wasn't quite 'ready' for. Checked out back alley, nothing interesting, then headed into HK w / the 4 dll drink, still nothing much there except for the chicas who recognized me and threw me some smiles.
Headed back out, and see a chica I have had before, I figured, I am there, might as well. Fucky / sucky sin ropa, for 40 dll and though the motions were mechanical, she did attempt to make small talk despite the language barrier, and I swear there was even a point I heard her let off a soft moan and grabbed my butt as I pounded her.
Skipped my amnesia stop this time. That place is making me poor. .
Peace and love to all
DJ FourMoney
08-14-11, 22:12
Good to see John around again. I decided to build a media / storage server instead of going to Tijuana. So this month I'll be going to Tijuana for sure. I may stay a night so I have increased my budget to about $150-$190.
What's a good day to go? I'm unemployed so day really doesn't matter. I was thinking of doing my usual Friday / Saturday trip. But I'm open to mid week if the results are roughly the same but say hotel rates are bit better.
Thanks
Good to see John around again. I decided to build a media / storage server instead of going to Tijuana. So this month I'll be going to Tijuana for sure. I may stay a night so I have increased my budget to about $150-$190.
What's a good day to go? I'm unemployed so day really doesn't matter. I was thinking of doing my usual Friday / Saturday trip. But I'm open to mid week if the results are roughly the same but say hotel rates are bit better.
ThanksYou should do a midweek trip for sure if you can. You will get more for your buck IMHO with less crowds. I hate Fri / Sat in Tijuana.
Wed / Thurs
Guitarrefreak
08-15-11, 06:39
You should do a midweek trip for sure if you can. You will get more for your buck IMHO with less crowds. I hate Fri / Sat in Tijuana.
Wed / ThursI am torn on this. The pickings can vary widely on weekdays (but then, same can be said about fri / sat). Regarding bang for the buck. I guess it depends on how badly one wants the chica.
Out of curiosity. What are the guys' budget here like for a typical night (not including a overnight hotel room)? Very curious to see how we all compare.
For me. It depends on whether I go to my regular strip club and "accidentally" overdo it with fischas. If I don't. Then its probably a 100 150 trip most w / 1 pop and a few drinks.
If I go to the strip club, I can't help but jump to 200 300 (!)
DJ FourMoney
08-15-11, 08:55
I am torn on this. The pickings can vary widely on weekdays (but then, same can be said about fri / sat). Regarding bang for the buck. I guess it depends on how badly one wants the chica.
Out of curiosity. What are the guys' budget here like for a typical night (not including a overnight hotel room)? Very curious to see how we all compare.
For me. It depends on whether I go to my regular strip club and "accidentally" overdo it with fischas. If I don't. Then its probably a 100 150 trip most w / 1 pop and a few drinks.
If I go to the strip club, I can't help but jump to 200 300 (!) I've spent about $150-$200 each time, totally unintentional however. Call it a learning experience. The last time was the cheapest but I also had to pay the taxi driver for keeping my cellphone when my debt card stop working and I didn't know the pin on my credit card to get cash off it. So not including that, I spent about $100 total. I opted for alley action and club hopped a bit.
I'm looking to maybe venture into using escorts this time around and if things go well, maybe an extended session. I also wanted to stay at Ticuan if I decide to stay overnight.
Baxter Slade
08-15-11, 18:34
I am torn on this. The pickings can vary widely on weekdays (but then, same can be said about fri / sat). Regarding bang for the buck. I guess it depends on how badly one wants the chica.
Out of curiosity. What are the guys' budget here like for a typical night (not including a overnight hotel room)? Very curious to see how we all compare.
For me. It depends on whether I go to my regular strip club and "accidentally" overdo it with fischas. If I don't. Then its probably a 100 150 trip most w / 1 pop and a few drinks.
If I go to the strip club, I can't help but jump to 200 300 (!) I used to do Tijuana on a budget I would walk to the Zona have a few 2 for 1 beers get one or 2 alley girls and get in and out for anywhere from 45 to 75 total. However recent trips have been averaging about 125 with the bulk of that being spent on drinks. However to get a true cost of these monthly trips I would have to factor in about 50 in gas 8 dollars for the 24hr parking and the cost of a room which is going to be greater now that I have been spoiled by the Ticuan. Oh yea and with football starting up soon I guess I will have to factor in my other vice and many trips to the Caliente.
As far as the best day to go I used to go on weekends alot but have made the switch to Thursdays. Thursday seems to be a good day the selection of ladies seems good, the clubs are not dead, but at the same time you don't have to deal with huge crowds either.
DJ FourMoney
08-15-11, 19:13
I used to do Tijuana on a budget I would walk to the Zona have a few 2 for 1 beers get one or 2 alley girls and get in and out for anywhere from 45 to 75 total. However recent trips have been averaging about 125 with the bulk of that being spent on drinks. However to get a true cost of these monthly trips I would have to factor in about 50 in gas 8 dollars for the 24hr parking and the cost of a room which is going to be greater now that I have been spoiled by the Ticuan. Oh yea and with football starting up soon I guess I will have to factor in my other vice and many trips to the Caliente.
As far as the best day to go I used to go on weekends alot but have made the switch to Thursdays. Thursday seems to be a good day the selection of ladies seems good, the clubs are not dead, but at the same time you don't have to deal with huge crowds either.Hey Hugo if your a Chargers fan and not obnoxious about it, we should do Caliente during the football season. I bet on football as well I just haven't done it down in Mexico, usually do it online or in Vegas. If your a Raider Fan then we should definitely do a weekend at Caliente!
Crowds just don't bother me. I was thinking more financial since I'm on a limited and I do mean limited budget. I'm thinking escorts MAY be a better value. Unless it just goes horribly wrong there isn't much clock watching and compare the prices for the usual stops vs escort and the value is there IF it can be taken advantage of.
As far as the best day to go I used to go on weekends alot but have made the switch to Thursdays. Thursday seems to be a good day the selection of ladies seems good, the clubs are not dead, but at the same time you don't have to deal with huge crowds either.Agreed. Even arrive on Thurs then leave on SAT would be a good deal. Better yet WED thru SAT afternoon. Then of course you would have the line to deal with. Personally I would stay a few days in Tijuana. There are so many affordable hotels it doesn't make sense to not stay. Dollar tacos and bakeries will keep you full for an entire weekend. Bring your own sheets and pillow if you want comfort. Seriously.
My budget in general for any mongering trip is $100. $120 a day. This includes chicas food drink shopping. Hotel is separate.
It's a generous amount but it still puts me in the budget monger category. If I had affordable pfp where I lived I might be considered well to do. It takes me all that money to bang low end skanks and people still give me flack over being a gutter monger.
Some days I go with spending $50 all day including pfp. The thing about TJ is there is always that chance you can find a desperate chica who will do "whatever" for $20. If you are flexible in the looks department this will lower your daily costs considerably. I had one who tossed my salad and bbbj me for $20. How can you go wrong ? Add to that a cheap room and it leaves me +$30 that I wouldn't of had otherwise.
DJ no offense but staying at the ticuan and escorts don't see to fit the budget you mentioned...better to stretch it out and live like a local.
Baxter Slade
08-16-11, 03:47
Hey Hugo if your a Chargers fan and not obnoxious about it, we should do Caliente during the football season. I bet on football as well I just haven't done it down in Mexico, usually do it online or in Vegas. If your a Raider Fan then we should definitely do a weekend at Caliente!
Crowds just don't bother me. I was thinking more financial since I'm on a limited and I do mean limited budget. I'm thinking escorts MAY be a better value. Unless it just goes horribly wrong there isn't much clock watching and compare the prices for the usual stops vs escort and the value is there IF it can be taken advantage of.DJ, not sure how this will fit into the plan but I'am a transplanted Cheesehead, that translates to major Packer fan. But I would be happy to put a few bucks on the Raiders and we can both have a blast cheering for the Raiders. The only week it won't work is week 14 when the Packers play the Raiders.
I usually don't like watching the games in the Caliente to many degenarate gamblers. I will usually end up watching the games in Las Chavales or Tropical. I can usually get the waiter to have the guy in the booth switch to the game. However I did learn don't have anyone mess with the tv's if there is a soccer game on.
I'am shopping around for an online book that is reliable and offers a big bonus so if you kmow of one and got a minute PM me
DJ FourMoney
08-16-11, 04:43
DJ, not sure how this will fit into the plan but I'am a transplanted Cheesehead, that translates to major Packer fan. But I would be happy to put a few bucks on the Raiders and we can both have a blast cheering for the Raiders. The only week it won't work is week 14 when the Packers play the Raiders.
I usually don't like watching the games in the Caliente to many degenarate gamblers. I will usually end up watching the games in Las Chavales or Tropical. I can usually get the waiter to have the guy in the booth switch to the game. However I did learn don't have anyone mess with the tv's if there is a soccer game on.
I'am shopping around for an online book that is reliable and offers a big bonus so if you kmow of one and got a minute PM meNo problem with the Packers, more of America's team than the self-proclaimed "America's Team" (Dallas).
I don't know where they watch the games at Caliente anyway so it doesn't really matter where I watch it. No NFL Sunday Ticket this year which sucks so I'm going to have to do something about that. I saw your post and the idea popped into my head. .
There's only one book I have used over the years, I'll send you a link in a PM.
MadisonGuy
08-16-11, 16:02
Go Packers! Another cheesehead here, it would be hilarious to have a bar filled with cheeseheads during a packer game, I can only imagine how increased our gringo status would be.
okay dudes. here it goes. first report, here. this is going to be long drawn, so please bear with me. i know that before i went, i thoroughly read trip reports, and especially appreciated the ones with impeccable attention to detail. i would like to pay that forward, and hopefully help future amigos gain some knowledge. first, i'd like to share my perspective with you. i'm 32 years old. i've never traveled this far by myself. always with family, friends, or the old ex-wife to reno. i've also never had the means to afford something of this caliber. i migrated from mexico city to the bay area in 1989 and i have not come back ever since. seeing mexico again, was going to be important for me. also, i'm not usually a person who goes to wild bars, seedy places, or even drinks much for that matter. my party experience has been the underground rave scene, with happy kids, psychedelics, and fun stuff like that. i thought it would be similar, but it was a world apart from what i experienced. from the beginning, i felt like this journey was going to be more meaningful to me, than your typical carnal connoisseur's visit.
i had 2 wingmen planned out, but karma took them away from my plans, and i ended up going solo. i felt a little wary about coming by myself, considering the recent jump in violence in the city. the decapitations at the bridge, made one of my friends change his mind about coming. i had all sorts of friends trying to talk me out of coming. i guess i felt more comfortable going to mexico, looking very mexican myself. i use my translating ability for my line of work on a daily basis, so i manage to keep my spanish in good shape. i also grew up in the rougher neighborhoods of oakland, so i've learned how to have little street smarts. my friends, unfortunately, are huge anglo nerd hipster douche bags, and felt they might be ostracized if they wore skinny jeans, and vintage sweaters. i did manage to see a few geeks, and fellow nerds abound, prancing around like school children, without a care in the world, mongering to their heart's delight. in a way, i am glad my friends did not go. this is a journey a young jedi must take alone anyways.
i relied on this website mainly, for all of my plans. thank you all for the great attention to detail in the wonderful care in writing all this pertinent and life-saving information, making this trip into the jungle, a cakewalk. i took just enough money to have fun. i brought most of all the supplies suggested on the noob guides. i even got a money belt, flavored water based lube, and crown's super thin condoms. all bought on the same amazon shopping trip. i think they knew what i was up to. i printed out the business card of lic. jose gonzalo manrique, in case the cops might peek into my wallet. i went the extra mile, and i also made a business card on photoshop, in the name of my father, who is an attorney in mexico. he's a property attorney, and i am semi-estranged from him, but i thought i would cover myself both ways. i had a real wallet, with my real docs, cash, and a pseudo wallet, with an expired i'd and the aforementioned business cards. i wore the money belt, and stuffed it with 20's. i left all my hundreds in the hotel, and only took 2 out at a time. i also brought 40 dollar's worth of 2 dollar bills, to pass around the people i would meet throughout the way. that was a wonderful tip, whoever mentioned that here. people really seemed to respond to them. us mexicans and our superstitions, of course. i also made sure to make 10 dollars worth of change, to tip street folks, musicians, and mesero sharks. they sure didn't like my one peso coins jingling on their trays. i got dirty looks from tons of them. except the ones i expertly tipped of course. there was a young guy, with piercings on the bottom of his lip in hk, named "el cholo." super cool fucking cat. not a shark at all. he brought me some really choice ladies. it was awesome. really respectful. not all up in your ass like those other poo-toes. he hooked it up with the vip, knocking before coming in, only once in 2 hours, on a friday night. he earned a 10 dollar tip from me. please make sure to treat him well. i worked with him quite a bit.
i took a plane from san francisco to san diego. virgin airlines had 39 dollar tickets. i sat next to a really cool dentist / anesthesiologist from the ukraine, who was chatting my ear off. world traveler, having gone to many places in europe and asia to teach his craft. he shared his knowledge about the tijuana game, him living in chula vista, and often curing his urge there. he was awesome. he was very happy for me, when i told him it was my 1st time, coming alone, on my birthday. he bought me a drink, and told me everything he could remember about the ins and outs of border town mayhem. he definitely confirmed there is no donkey show. he even told me about meseros, and their fucking bags of chips, no joke. nothing new to you jedi masters, of course, but he was really cool. he set the tone for the rest of my trip. i was already enjoying myself thoroughly.
i arrived, took the 992 bus to the blue line trolley. it was a 1 hour trip total. the trolley was full of people, and it was stuffy as fuck. some fat cholo kid who was sitting in front of me had to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140), so he kept telling his younger brother to punch him in the arm, in order to help him not think about the urge. it was mildly amusing while it lasted. i arrived at the border, and went to the exchange house right across the street from the jack in the box. no commission of course. i mad some change, and headed to the pedestrian entry. i got into the taxi hub, and i flagged down an older looking driver. i asked him "cuatro dolares para ir al ticuan? ' he obliged, and helped me with my luggage into his car. i sat in the front, and we chatted about the madness of driving a cab in tijuana. he did not know what i was talking about. i then remembered this is how you drive in mexico. he was very nice. gave me his card. although he recommended i go to the purple rain later, i gave him 5 total for being cordial and telling me where the best carnitas are (uruapan of course). i arrived into the ticuan and checked in. i saw the lady everyone keeps talking about. short gordita, giving me a funny look while i was checking in. i avoided eye contact with this specimen. the young guy checking me in was insanely cordial. she just stood there silently, judging me with her jesus-is-my-boyfriend stare. i stared back, and she engaged me in a staring contest. i won. lol, pendeja. so i check in, and i am taken upstairs by edguan the bellboy. he leads me in, teaches me how to use the safe, and welcomes me. i tipped him one dollar, and proceeded to ask him "donde estan las buenas masajistas?" he told me he knew of some skilled workers, who would come up to my room and tend to me. i told him i would call him, and keep his number handy. you never know when the need for a late night snack might arise. i got showered, shaved, sprayed on my very best italian cologne, slanted my kangol hat the right way, and put on my favorite track jacket. i wanted to look like a fresa de la ciudad, and that's typical attire.
i flagged down a cab, and i asked him to take me to adelitas for 4 dollars. i arrived, and ceremoniously slid the red curtain aside, as i stepped into tittyville. it was a sight to behold. young senoritas as far as the eye can see. this was circa 4 pm. i was looking for creasy. i did not see him. he had described his attire to me, so i kept staring at people's hats, looking for the correct insignia. i took a lap around the bar. no dice. i sat down, and ordered a water. the guy told me it was 3. 25. i gave him 4 dollars, and he came back with my change. i told him to keep it. that was the one and only time i did that. as soon as he left, a chiqua comes and sits next to me. her name evades me. she was in her 30's and had blond, curly hair. she looked like one of my mom's friends, but hotter. she made small talk with me, and asked me to buy her a drink. i told her yes, and they brought her the tiny ficha beer. she sipped it slowly, and we talked about my journey and my reason for being there. she gave me a big kiss on the lips for it being my birthday, and she proceeded to stroke me while guiding my hand to her boob. she told me "esta bien que me agarres las chichis, aqui si se puede hacer eso." i found her honesty refreshing. i proceeded to pinch her nipple through her bra. she then finishes her drink. and asks if i want to go "a cojer." that made me smile more than a little. she pinched my cheek, and licked my ear. i shivered just a little.
i wanted to save my energies for a real looker, so i politely declined, and told her i would see her around. she left and i proceeded to check out the dancer. she was an energetic little thing. her dancing was peculiar. she was not there to please the men. she was there to show off how well she danced, and it showed. i wish i knew her name. she was a real doll. alta, pelo negro, flaca. right behind her was this nalgona, con chichis gigantes. i smiled at her. she smiled back. i waved at her, and vice versa. i made the come hither motion, and she strutted her curvy self next to me. she sat on my lap, and slammed my face into her boobs. she had just finished dancing while i was talking to the curly blonde. her body was still warm, slightly sweaty, and smelled of pheromones and cheap perfume. it was intoxicating. her hair was moist with sweat too. i love perspiring women (when they aren't fat). it was short, black, and modern looking. she had lots of freckles. she also looked like she was pushing 30, when up close. i proceeded to buy her a ficha and discover her assets. she was incredibly firm. i asked her if it was hard to work out that much. she said she had stopped working out much, because she did not want to lose her curves. she had a wonderful little six pack going, despite all that culo. i was in love with her. as i was man-handling her, she allowed me to place my hand in between her thighs, as she squeezed them together very tight. she said that if i liked that, i should see what it feels like if i did that with my cock inside of her."deberias de ver como te la dejo, si me la metes por detras." was her exact phrase. pure fucking poetry. i bought her a 2nd ficha, and she sat on my lap, while we chit chatted about my being there. i was really enjoying her conversation. although she was a fun lap-toy, i wanted younger game to copulate with, so i decided to continue the hunt. i told her i was going to hunt me down a taco, and told her i would be back to find her before her shift ended later.
i stepped out of adelita's and i walk into fresh air, and bright light. it was hot as fuck in there, so the cool wind was very good. i light a cigarette, and loiter, planning my next move. i was still hunting down creasy. i walked down the street, and look around. a taco stand is bustling in the upper right corner of the street. i see a bunch of cops standing there eating, next to some americans, and a few locals. i head on over, and join them. the smell is amazing. their grill is full of carne asada. the meat looks very fresh. i see their al pastor meat mound; it's the size of a large log. there is a plate with a ton of freshly grilled cebollitas, and chiles asados. people are gorging on these, grabbing them by the handful, and helping themselves to it. i am now salivating. i asked al senor 'deme dos de asada, why dos al pastor, por favor." i then notice the tortillas he is using; i also notice everyone's tacos. these fucking things are huge. they are using 2 tortillas on them even. he hands me the 1st two, and i inhale them. i get the next two in the middle of me eating. i can't possibly eat anymore. a musico is sitting next to us singing. he's really good. he has a guitar, and a very raspy voice. i think he's partly blind. truly a talented individual. i offer him my last taco al pastor. he thankfully accepts, and we finish the tacos together. i have never eaten a taco al pastor, so good, in my whole life. i'm a huge fan of tacos, and this current specimen is now the epitome of all tacos that came before it, for me. could this night get any fucking better? i was the whole thing with a coca, and i walk back down to the bars. let me rephrase that, i run for my life, dodging speeding yellow cabs, and narrowly escape with all my limbs still attached.
i walk down the place, and i see las chavelas. i decide to leave it for later, and instead go into the honk kong gentlemen's club. i'm waved in by a big guero looking guy, with a friendly smile. i open the red curtains, and step inside. holy fucking shit. it's the titty twister from dusk 'till dawn. chiquas dancing everywhere. dudes grabbing up on all kindsa ass and titties. girls getting their titties fellated mere feet away from me! what the fuck amigos. why didn't anyone tell me they were so hot. i mean. seriously. habian de todas, carnal. flacas, altas, gueras, chinitas, morenas, nalgonas, chichonas, why mas! way better than adelitas. a huge stupid smile came over my face. i could not wipe it off for the next hour or so. holy fucking crap. why haven't i been here before, was a thought that kept running into my mind. i walked past the girls, walking around, and looking at the goods, still smiling my stupid grin. i then remembered i was still looking for creazy. i went upstairs and then again down. no dude with hat with special logo yet. i went downstairs, and came down the back entrance. i noticed there was 2 girls flopping around in shaving cream downstairs. holy god damn. they were ass naked, with one dildo each, stuffing it inside themselves. the girls performing were scarlett, and luna. beautiful specimens. incredible bodies. scarlett's face was beautiful to me. if anyone has a picture of her, i would be insanely grateful. i really regret not taking a good camera. she was so dark, and small, and sexy. she looked fucking sassy, just sitting there bent over, waving her sudsy ass at the patrons. before the night was done, i knew i would have to bless them both with my scepter. i proceeded to sit down. i sat there mesmerized, as they flopped around the stage. there must have been 8 or 9 guys total, sitting on the stage, tipping. i noticed not all of them were tipping. i figured their arms must be broken, or not working. the girls flopped over to me. i rolled up my sleeves, and placed a dollar bill on each of their stomachs. their perfectly flat, sudsy, creamy stomachs were delightful. i then grabbed each of their dildos in each hand, and impaled them simultaneously. it was now definitely okay. i could die right now, in a horrible and humiliating manner, and it would be totally okay. i just fucked 2 girls with 2 dildos for 2 dollars. kill me before i implode, i thought. or not. i then placed another 2 dollars on top of them, and rubbed their perfect little kitties. it was very comforting to do that to a perfect stranger, in front of a bunch of strangers. i can almost quantify the moment when my brain clicked, and i knew what i was doing. i realized that i had this dumb, shocked expression on my face, my mouth was gaping open, and the girls were pointing at me and laughing. i think they smelled the noob in me. they were loving it. they both came up to me, gave me a kiss, and then slapped me in the face, getting suds all over it. fucking epic. i sat down, and ordered water, from the shark, i mean mesero who accosted me first. i noticed other guys were fellating these women on the stage after i did what i did. beautiful carnality, live and unfettered mere inches away from my face. what a wonderful thing for a man to experience. life truly is better in mexico. especially when you have a bunch of dollar bills to spare. i spent about 6 dollars, gorging on a grope fest previously unimaginable in anything in america.
i could not take it anymore. i wanted to bang the next hot thing that i saw. by this point, i was very hot, temperature wise. i usually run hot, so being in hk was heaven, and hell combined. the place had a smell like cinnamon and sex. i walked out of the back entrance, and i stepped into a cool evening breeze. sweet relief. i needed to release. i turned to the left, and the next thing i notice, is my arm sleeve being pulled by a beautiful young woman, with thin sharpie eyebrows, a beautiful face, humongous breasts, and a short, black mini skirt. i shook her hand, introduced myself, and she told me her name was maria. she began to rub my cock with her knee, and then asked me if i wanted to go to the hotel for 20 dollars. i instantly obliged, and we went upstairs. we paid the 5 dollars. we went into the room. she proceeded to take her clothes off. i took mine off, and layed back. she took off her bra, and pulled her huge perfect tits out. she had big, thumb sized nipples, and they were perfectly smooth. they almost looked fake, they were so nice. i sucked them, and she grabbed my cock and played with it. she was getting turned on by my superb oral skills. she proceeded to put on a condom on me. she told me "quieres que te lo chupe?". i simply smiled and pushed her head down into the microphone. she said,"te va a costar cinco dolares." i forgot to handle the details earlier, i thought to myself. i was so horny; i forgot some of the commandments. oh well, she was very cheap to begin with, and this was some good action, for the buck i spent. she proceeded to give me a slow, loving blowjob, and i fingered her kitty. a tight fit, for one of my fingers. she had a nice little bush going too. i dug it. reminded me of this vato loca chick i used to mess around with in high school. i was in heaven. she asked me "ya me quieres cojer?". i said yes, and she rode me cowgirl. i was pinching her nipples as she did. they were really hard. it was very satisfying. after a few minutes, i switched it up, and finished her doggy style. i had a shuddering orgasm, as the tallachero came-a-knocking. she screams "ya casi." and we clean up. i pay her 25 dollars, and then also hand her a 2 dollar bill,"para la buena suerte." her eyes lit up when i handed it to her. she loved it. she said she had received one a very long time ago, and she had lost it somehow. the planets were on my side this night, i thought. she gave me a deep long kiss, and told me i should look for her later.
maria also told me she would go toda la noche with me, and asked me if i wanted to go dancing on friday to las pulgas. i was honored by her request. i didn't really ask her. i just told her i was new there basically. i told her i was staying at the ticuan, and that i might take her up on her offer. i told her i had some free passes for las pulgas when i checked into the hotel. she told me her shift ended at 10 pm, and that i should look for her. i walked her back to her spot, kissed her on the check, said goodbye, and proceeded to walk around in the night air. the streets were bustling with mongers, senoritas, bouncers, meseros, hustlers, taqueros, policias, and oodles more. i recall this specific moment giving me great joy. what a wonderful fucking city. the air was electric with life. love, lust, joy, and desperation all flowing together. so good, it should be illegal i thought. so far, the best vacation ever (and i've been to disneyland twice!).
all this stimulus was making me hungry again. i walked around, to the upper right taco stand again. i had another taco al pastor. i drowned it in lime juice, salt, and salsa. i got a handful of cebollas, rabanos, and a chile asado. i chilled by the wall, taking the sights in. somehow, this taco was even better than the 1st one i ate. the meat was fried a little more, so it was a little crunchy, and the spicy grease on it, tasted great. i felt so satisfied. i cleaned up, payed, tipped the guy an extra buck. fucking amazing tacos, i wanted to scream it at them, but i instead thanked him politely for the best taco i've ever had in my life. he laughed and thanked me gratefully. i decided that the hunt for creasy must continue. i ran across the street, and back into the hong kong club. i was not curious about any other bar any more, after stepping into that palace of debauchery. i have a strong urge to continue my evolution into a sinful brilliant oversexed bastard, and i go back into the bar street.
i walk back in, and walk around. this time, i walk around the bar, and decide to introduce myself to a couple of the senoritas. i walk up to a nice chinita looking spinner, wearing a black g-string and nerdy glasses, and slip a dollar into her g-string, while i whisper into her ear. i grab her hip as i squeeze her closer to me. she smelled great. the olfactory sense can be the greatest aphrodisiac. i repeated this action, with several more girls, as i walked around the bar. some of them grabbed my crotch; some of them rubbed their ass on it. one of them grabbed my hands, and let me pinch her nipples. one of them asked me to buy her a drink. i told her i was touring the grounds, i had just arrived, but i would look for her later. she smiled, and kissed me on the cheek. i began to walk around a little more. i looked at a booth, and i see a hat with a familiar insignia. it's creasy my neazy! i'm very happy to see my first amigo there. i introduce myself, and i sit with him in the booth. he's currently being joined by an absolutely amazing cutie, with sparkling eyes. top choice cut. i see creasy is getting his fun on with this chick. i'm not sure if he digs an audience, so i dip out real quick. i'm still not fully down with the etiquette of ficha fucking with others in front. i imagine the girl might not get as fun, if she has another dude in front of her (unless she is awesome.)
i walk around a little while more. i sit, and tip at the south stage. i am in awe by their dancing. some of them really get down on that acrobat's ring. that shit is awesome. i'm the only one clapping, and whistling. the mc is the only other most excited fellow in current vicinity. i tip, grope, feel, kiss, suck nipples, and rub clits, for another 20 minutes or so. this time i order an orange juice. yum, tang! i fucking love tang. oh, by the way, by this time of the night, i've been asked to have my picture taken about 6 times. i must be quite handsome, i thought.
i walk around to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140), and i decide to refill my wallet. i go to the cagadero, and i remove a hundred dollars from my belt safe. i tip the bathroom guy a peso, and i go change the bill into ones and fives. i then bump into creasy. i walk with him outside to get some air. we reiterate our introductions. i'm usually a nervous person meeting new people, but everyone i have met so far on my trip has been more than accommodating. we walk around the block, checking out the sg talent. creasy spots a few nenitas. i can't take my eyes off this chinita. some of them are absolutely gorgeous. i'm definitely getting myself a mexicana as a wife, from here. fuck these americanized, rotten, evil, money hungry, wenches. our consumer culture consumes its own consumers. but i digress. yo quiero culo. we stroll around, and we look for a sg named sandra. we fail to find her. we stroll into the chicago club. we sit, and shoot the shit. we spot 2 senoritas. yoko and her young friend isabella (i think.). we proceed to buy them a ficha each, and get to know them a little closer. isabella has long straight brown, blondish hair, and a lower lip piercing. she has perfect skin. she has perfect eyes, and is dressed in a very classy dress. she says she is 20 years old. she looks so healthy, and young. her skin is tight as a drum. firmness abound. she enjoys being caressed. i notice that trying to be somewhat personable to them. i find myself immensely enjoying chit chatting with the chiquas. they are very inquisitive about the states. i love to explain things (oh yeah) , and i deal in a lot of customer service in spanish, so my people skills are razor sharp. i enjoyed listening to them talk. some of them are very intelligent. the spanish language is a beautiful tongue. i enjoy listening it to it be spoken well, and to have a beautiful muchachita, talking to me, and allowing me to enjoy her physical presence, was well worth the price of admission. i swear upon everything that is holy to me (xbox360, pot, sweet culos) , that 98% of the girls i met, sipped their fichas quite slowly. i think they genuinely enjoy being treated respectfully, and treating them like human beings. we all have a heart. they are young ladies. i know our stupid ass twisted american puritan upbringing teaches us to poo on their profession, but yet, praise real working girls like paris hilton and sarah palin (zing!). any who, it was my impression that it really helped to click with them to remember those simple rules.
creasy and his date excuse themselves to do the vertical tango. i didn't want isabella to be left out, so i asked her if she wanted to go arriba. i asked her if 600 pesos was okay. she obliged, and we proceeded to make the journey upstairs. everyone stared at us as we went up. that's right pinches gueyes. miren que me voy a cojer! we go upstairs, she turns on the porn, and goes into the bathroom to undress. she is fucking perfect. she has a belly button piercing. she has a beautiful curved ass. she ha wonderful b-cup breasts, with perfectly dark hershey kiss nipples. they match her beautiful pussy lips. she puts a condom on my now hulk-like erection. god she is fucking hot, i thought. much hotter than maria. she gobbles my thing like it ain't no thang. i jerk backwards in ecstasy. she laughs at me, and calls me payaso. she goes down again, all the way to the back of her throat. i feel it slam in there. i am loving this intensely. i rub her ass, and touch her silky kitty. she's ready to play. she rides me cowgirl. she rides me hard. she feels me deep inside of her. she grinds the cock, and squeals just perfectly. she grabs my hands and makes me squeeze her nipples. i do as so, and i she leans back, arching her spine. i then grab her hips, and begin to pound her hard, making her bounce nicely. she grabs my chest, and is panting heavily now. i think she came. i flip her around, and then fuck her doggy style standing up next to the bed. her ass and legs curve perfectly. her skin is wet with sex sweat, and she is panting still. i pound her ass until she can't stand up anymore. she made me super-horny, and she is now paying for it. time to bring it on home. i grab her missionary, on the side of the bed, and pound her while holding her legs, and ankles together. i explode inside of her, and then lay next to her, licking her panting, warm skin, from her tits and neck. did i mention i was a filthy freak? oh yeah. after a minute or two of this, comes the knock, knock, knock. she screams,"okay." and we get dressed up. we walk out. i say goodbye to her in the hotel lobby. i thank her, i call her my munequita, and i kiss her on the cheek. i walk back into the cool night air, and go look for my compadre creasy. i bump into him either in the street, or the hong kong bar (i think. by this time, my memory is slightly fuzzy, due to the sensory overload of tonight.) we hang out for a little while in a booth, checking out the nalgas, and hanging out. it's coming close to the midnight hour, and creasy has to drive back to la. we bid our goodbyes, and i'm flying solo again. my heart is still pounding from the excitement of my adventure so far. i'm continually thanking my lucky stars for being able to be here, having such a fucking blast. time for another taco. i still have many more hours to burn. i can't sleep in this condition. i go outside to look for another street girl to take arriba. i find the nice little chinita who smiled at me earlier. she says her name is iris. 20 dollars, plus 10 for "todo lo demas". cbj. 3 positions, sucked on her perfect be cups, and i collapsed on top of her after finishing in missionary. i bought another taco, and then took a yellow cab home to the ticuan, my ears and heart still thumping with excitement. i have been in tijuana for 9 hours. i have lived more in these 9 hours, than the past 3 years of my life.
day 2 to be continued.
Baxter Slade
08-17-11, 20:12
WOW Flange that was some report. I love all the detail. I feel like I have just gone to Tijuana just from reading your report. I can't wait for day 2
WOW Flange that was some report. I love all the detail. I feel like I have just gone to Tijuana just from reading your report. I can't wait for day 2Agree, nice to read his sentiment about paying back the info with a detailed report, and I must say it's probably the longest first-timer report I've ever read.
His full trip report will probably be a $9. 99 download on Kindle.
Cheers Flange.
Keg
Nice report. Welcome to the world of make believe. It can be a reality as long as the money and time is available.
Your enthusiasm is reminiscent of many other "nerdy" mongers who have ventured beyond the turnstiles. The Tijuana experience can be a lot of fun for the right monger.
I am jealous that you can get $39 airline tickets. I can't even get to the airport for that much which is only 30 minutes away from me. The dollar bus guys REALLY [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off.
Enjoy your new found freedom and congratulations on going alone. I've been all over South America alone. If I waited for someone else to accompany me I would never go. You will always meet other single travelers.
Bienvenido.
right on flange. i'm in the bay area myself and had been planning on an escapade for my birthday to tijuana. it seems that all immediate homies are bitchin' out because of x, y, z reason. as other forum members have wisely said, sometimes one has to be the lone wolf. if you have to wait for company, you'll never leave the block; that's a fact of life. we can plan ahead as much as possible, but at the end of the day, like nike "just do it". you have restored my confidence about the voyage, i was debating on escorts and will probably try that as well, but those clubs (hk, cc, lc) mentioned will have to be conquered, no doubt about it; at least worth a peek. i'll be there by the end of october, if you're there and need a wingman, hit me up beforehand. peace.
ps i'm definitely going to search for that taco stand and try a few, my mouth is already startin' to water.
Guitarrefreak
08-18-11, 05:54
Pretty fuckin awesome report. Really revs the engine for other guys to head down there.
Realmente necesito practicar más espańol.
I have been in Tijuana for 9 hours. I have lived more in these 9 hours, than the past 3 years of my life.
Day 2 to be continued.I forgot to comment on this. I so relate to this comment. YES this is what it's all about. Major reality check when you realize this. This lifestyle can lead you into the monger abyss or a new found hate for western culture.
Again. BEINVENIDO.
MadisonGuy
08-18-11, 08:52
1st night kind of blew. In the bad way. It wasn't the worst night ever but it wasn't a night that I will put down in the record books. I crossed the border around 730 checked into Tiquan and was at New Body at 8. No girls there finally two came down one was super hot probably one of the hottest girls of the night. But she was done working. So then took a taxi to HK, drank some beers stopped in almost every bar and only saw one girl I kind of liked and she didn't seem into it so I figured why waste the money. Then I gave up and walked to Las Pulgas, damn that place is huge, but I felt I needed a wingman, there were just too many dudes there I think definetely has potential but I'm a puss. So finally went to mermaid or whatever across from Tiquan and I think I screwed a girl I screwed on the last trip, can't be positive but I'm pretty sure. She was ok moaned a little fake and was a little too expensive but hopefully one of these nights I'll fill in with a normal girl and make up for the costly nights with hookers. Day 1 of? I'm hoping in the daytime I can pull more numbers, at night the girls seem overly focused on deniro. Also the girls that come to town for a month and leave seem like a waste so I might have to start making sure they are local girls. I want cheap GFE all night sex at my hotel, that is 2nd goal. First is a hot girlfriend for "free" even though it might cost me the same in the end. The zona was one of the worst nights I have seen it, a lot of playboy big titty type girls but not enough girl next door looks. Luckily the girl working the front desk is the same as last time and I gave her a pair of shoes last time when I left and she remember me so hopefully I can get her to go out with me. Working on that early AM, she hasn't seen me stroll back with any girls except one but I can say it's a girl I was dating and broke up with which will make me look more desirable. Or so I think. I have a lot of escorts picked out so tomorrow maybe escort day.
MadisonGuy
08-18-11, 09:00
Oh I forgot the most important part, I killed tacos tonight. I think it might be that this time I'm staying for awhile so I can play with porceline gods, but I had 2 pork. 1 chicken. 1 fish and 1 that I'm not really sure what it was I asked for carne and they pointed to carne and I said no way that over there. It was the best. Taco stands by Las Pulgas get my approval. I always go to the one inside by HK on the corner that has pork. Mmm My room tonight in Tiquan is on the side opposite of Las Pulgas, much better than the last time when I could hear the music.
Guitarrefreak
08-18-11, 16:29
How much was the damage at mermaids?
My regular kind of set me in that $80 territory which I cannot get out of. I used to pay $35 for the room but one of their maestros recognized me last time and say next time it will be $30 for me.
I would rather just take the chick to a hotel and pay her that total anyway.
1st night kind of blew. In the bad way. It wasn't the worst night ever but it wasn't a night that I will put down in the record books. I crossed the border around 730 checked into Tiquan and was at New Body at 8. No girls there finally two came down one was super hot probably one of the hottest girls of the night. But she was done working. So then took a taxi to HK, drank some beers stopped in almost every bar and only saw one girl I kind of liked and she didn't seem into it so I figured why waste the money. Then I gave up and walked to Las Pulgas, damn that place is huge, but I felt I needed a wingman, there were just too many dudes there I think definetely has potential but I'm a puss. So finally went to mermaid or whatever across from Tiquan and I think I screwed a girl I screwed on the last trip, can't be positive but I'm pretty sure. She was ok moaned a little fake and was a little too expensive but hopefully one of these nights I'll fill in with a normal girl and make up for the costly nights with hookers. Day 1 of? I'm hoping in the daytime I can pull more numbers, at night the girls seem overly focused on deniro. Also the girls that come to town for a month and leave seem like a waste so I might have to start making sure they are local girls. I want cheap GFE all night sex at my hotel, that is 2nd goal. First is a hot girlfriend for "free" even though it might cost me the same in the end. The zona was one of the worst nights I have seen it, a lot of playboy big titty type girls but not enough girl next door looks. Luckily the girl working the front desk is the same as last time and I gave her a pair of shoes last time when I left and she remember me so hopefully I can get her to go out with me. Working on that early AM, she hasn't seen me stroll back with any girls except one but I can say it's a girl I was dating and broke up with which will make me look more desirable. Or so I think. I have a lot of escorts picked out so tomorrow maybe escort day.
Mermaid Massage $80 range with $ 10 discount? Per MT. Push for two@180 exclusive package.
Rooms better than HK & AB but smaller.
How much was the damage at mermaids?
My regular kind of set me in that $80 territory which I cannot get out of. I used to pay $35 for the room but one of their maestros recognized me last time and say next time it will be $30 for me.
I would rather just take the chick to a hotel and pay her that total anyway.
MadisonGuy
08-18-11, 18:39
Unfortunately a lot, and it wasn't mermaids it was Maria Bonita I think. $140 total I barely negotiated, what's even worse is I think I screwed her last time too. I actually was just walking around town and thinking about last night, I wasn't hammered but I was buzzed and really picky. Thinking back there was a girl I wanted at HK but she wanted 80+15 figured I could get her down but still seemed high. But unfortunately after bar hoping all down Revolution ending up at Las Pulgas and being a pussy I ended up tired and wanting a piece quick so went to closest place to hotel. I spent way too much last night so I have to try to pull the reins in a bit if I'm going to make this last a month here mongering. I got a ton done this morning though, finally I know my way around Tijuana so I can walk instead of taking taxis. Everything is a lot closer than I thought. I also got my mexican number this morning so I'm officially a citizen. Ha ha. I got some photos of the walk from Ticuan to HK Adelitas area I will post. Not any girls at 9am worth taking a picture of. Unfortunately I'm using a DSLR camera so don't think I will take that out at night. I like Ticuan more the more I am here, there is a supermarcado a 9 iron away from front door, and New Body I think has the best talent for a MP which is only a few blocks away also, front desk staff is super nice and has cuties working. I'm still trying to contact a couple guys about renting a condo on the beach, if I stay at Ticuan I will only last for about 2 weeks until my you're an idiot throwing money away voice kicks in. The internet is also good enough at Ticuan to use magic jack. 4down1up.
How much was the damage at mermaids?
My regular kind of set me in that $80 territory which I cannot get out of. I used to pay $35 for the room but one of their maestros recognized me last time and say next time it will be $30 for me.
I would rather just take the chick to a hotel and pay her that total anyway.
Oh I forgot the most important part, I killed tacos tonight. I think it might be that this time I'm staying for awhile so I can play with porceline gods, but I had 2 pork. 1 chicken. 1 fish and 1 that I'm not really sure what it was I asked for carne and they pointed to carne and I said no way that over there. It was the best.Don't forget about the healthy and nutritious Bacon-wrapped Hot Dogs at the cart between HK and AB.
Like elite Triathletes, our mongering requires specialized nutritional diets for peak performance.
MadisonGuy
08-19-11, 00:58
Just got back from New Body, there are 3 gourgeous blondes working there. Most likely fake blondes. But if you like that playboy look these girls blow away anything I've seen in HK. Hopefully one of these days I will give it a whirl.
Bill here reporting on what's important to him.
Good news is the dollar is appreciating.
The Leyva hotel now has free wifi.
For those interested, there is a pregnant girl working out of Monitos who is fair skinned and cute.
The tacos at the corner of Coahuila and Constitution are as good as any in the zona and you can take two of 'them, pile on the complimentary beans, salsa and jalapenos, etc. Ask for a spoon and you have a meal for 2 bucks.
The best value for a roast pork taco has to be at the flea market on weekends. They just pile on the meat and you almost feel guilty for I think 8 pesos each. You will be waiting in line behind the locals.
Did a very hott street girl on west side of Const. Walking down hill before Coahuila. Had to have her sin ropa for 250 plus 50 for the shitty room. Just my type. Slim, taller than average, georgeous face. She let me bend her and take my time and I think I told her I loved her.
Took a regular sg on const. Just south of Coahuila. Brunette, clean, face is average but body is hard and her natural tits are firm as she lets me do as I please. 250 sin ropa in my room.
They had an excellent rock band by the mariachi stage on I think Sunday night. Anybody catch that show? Just caught the last set as it was over about 9:30 pm.
Does anyone know how long the wait is in the pedestrian crossing around from 4-7pm? I crossed back over in late June / July and people were lined up all the way back past the pedestrian bridge to where the street ends. It takes roughly about a 1 hour to cross.
Does anyone know how long the wait is in the pedestrian crossing around from 4-7pm? I crossed back over in late June / July and people were lined up all the way back past the pedestrian bridge to where the street ends. It takes roughly about a 1 hour to cross.Only one hour for your crossing, you were fortunate. It has been about 2 hours the last couple of times I crossed on weekend afternoons. I've stopped doing that and no longer go back and forth across the border during the those times, I just stay down there until late night.
Does anyone know how long the wait is in the pedestrian crossing around from 4-7pm? I crossed back over in late June / July and people were lined up all the way back past the pedestrian bridge to where the street ends. It takes roughly about a 1 hour to cross.Last time I crossed, a couple of weeks ago, mid-week, the line was all the way to the end, and then it doubled back for a 20 or 30 yards.
But it moved quickly, and I was through the whole thing in just about an hour.
Weekends are probably worse.
My SENTRI card comes next week! Wheeeee!
MadisonGuy
08-20-11, 09:59
Just got back from the HK, adelitas area. Stopped in all the bars and checked out all the street girls. Also walked down to purple rain. I have to say this Friday was worst than my last Friday here. It's packed and the girls weren't as good looking. The best part of down there was the tacos then walked back to Las Pulgas with a new buddy I met, probably the best wing man I could magically make appear. Waiting in Tijuana for his probation period to end so his residency from marriage make him a US resident, if anyone knows how the process works you'll understand. Anyway he's a free translator and he's like a tiger on meet he jumps on every single good looking girl in Las Pulgas. I only wish I had him Wed. Because Friday sucks there as much as it does down around HK but I'm told Sat at Las Pulgas is awesome so we'll see what tomorrow holds. Every girl we talked to in Las Pulgas was receptive, but at the same time it's a negative because I would be working my minimal spanish skillls and find out that the girls we're talking to are married. I'd personally prefer to be turned down then waste my time, or another instance this 18 year old girl is dancing wth me for a couple songs and all of a sudden her gay looking boyfriend shows up. There's positives and negatives but I didn't pull anyone out of Las Pulgas and supposedly this guy does it often. It was kind of funny because he's teaching me a bunch of shit and at the same time we went to HK which he's never stepped foot in, I told him don't use tonight to rate the place because it was horrible, very few hotties and a ratio of like 15/1 guys to girls. He told me where he lives which is like 10 minutes east from border the clubs there the girls will give you a blow job in the club for like $20, can't wait to try out the local pleasures he said there's no Americans that go there which is right up my alley. El Cheapo Gringo is in the house!
Mr Enternational
08-20-11, 15:33
Does anyone know how long the wait is in the pedestrian crossing around from 4-7pm? I crossed back over in late June / July and people were lined up all the way back past the pedestrian bridge to where the street ends. It takes roughly about a 1 hour to cross.If you get one of these you won't have to wait at all. But keep in mind the $15 is in addition to the $100 that you pay for Global Entry.
On July 12, 2011, USA Customs and Border Protection (CBP) began issuing Global Entry radio frequency identification (RFID) cards to new Global Entry members (not already in possession of a NEXUS or SENTRI card).
Global Entry members who were approved for the program prior to July 12, 2011, and are not current NEXUS or SENTRI card holders, may login to their Global Online Enrollment System (GOES) account and request a Global Entry card for a $15 card issuance fee. For more information on Global Entry and the Global Entry card, please go to www.globalentry.gov.
The card operates as a SENTRI card for Global Entry members. Global Entry card holders must follow all program rules for SENTRI when using their card at land or sea ports of entry, including having their vehicle registered and inspected prior to driving it in the SENTRI lane. For more information on SENTRI, please go to www.sentri.gov.
The Global Entry card can be used to travel into the United States from Canada and Mexico at the land border using the NEXUS and SENTRI lanes. For USA citizens, the Global Entry card is also a Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative (WHTI) compliant document for land and sea travel. For more information on WHTI please visit http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/vacation/ready_set_go/.
Global Entry cards are not valid for use to travel into Canada in the NEXUS lanes or at the NEXUS kiosks at Canadian preclearance airports. For more information on NEXUS please visit www.nexus.gov.
IMPORTANT NOTE: This card may not be used at the Global Entry kiosks. Please use your passport or USA Lawful Permanent Resident card.
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If you get one of these you won't have to wait at all. But keep in mind the $15 is in addition to the $100 that you pay for Global Entry.
On July 12, 2011, USA Customs and Border Protection (CBP) began issuing Global Entry radio frequency identification (RFID) cards to new Global Entry members (not already in possession of a NEXUS or SENTRI card).
Global Entry members who were approved for the program prior to July 12, 2011, and are not current NEXUS or SENTRI card holders, may login to their Global Online Enrollment System (GOES) account and request a Global Entry card for a $15 card issuance fee. For more information on Global Entry and the Global Entry card, please go to.
www.globalentry.gov.
The card operates as a SENTRI card for Global Entry members. Global Entry card holders must follow all program rules for SENTRI when using their card at land or sea ports of entry, including having their vehicle registered and inspected prior to driving it in the SENTRI lane. For more information on SENTRI, please go to.
www.sentri.gov.
The Global Entry card can be used to travel into the United States from Canada and Mexico at the land border using the NEXUS and SENTRI lanes. For USA citizens, the Global Entry card is also a Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative (WHTI) compliant document for land and sea travel. For more information on WHTI please visit.
http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/vacation/ready_set_go/.
Global Entry cards are not valid for use to travel into Canada in the NEXUS lanes or at the NEXUS kiosks at Canadian preclearance airports. For more information on NEXUS please visit.
www.nexus.gov.
IMPORTANT NOTE: This card may not be used at the Global Entry kiosks. Please use your passport or USA Lawful Permanent Resident card.
This is an automated email. Please do not reply.WTF?
I got my GOES approval in April or May. Had to go through the background check, interview at LAX, etc. They told me I had to do the whole SENTRI thing separately and go to SD for the interview.
Did the SENTRI thing earlier in the week. What a PITA.
Now you're telling us that now this is unnecessary? Why didn't that dork at the SENTRI office mention this?
Or am I not understanding this government-generated gibberish. :)
Hey Phordphan,
I'am a Global entry member and I was going to apply for the Sentri this coming up week. That e-mail was sent to me also but just two days ago, on August 18, 2011. Glad I waited and sorry you had to go through the second interview.
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Hey Phordphan,
I'am a Global entry member and I was going to apply for the Sentri this coming up week. That e-mail was sent to me also but just two days ago, on August 18, 2011. Glad I waited and sorry you had to go through the second interview.
QYeah, not to mention the extra $125 clams I had to fork over. Government assholes.
MadisonGuy
08-21-11, 11:21
Rosarito actually has a couple decent monger spots. It's not for mongering on a budget but if you want a strip club with an option to fuck the girls at Bada Bing are pretty fucking hot, they have much more of an American look than girls in HK area. So I know the common saying is to not follow guys trying to show you around, but obviously with any rules there is common sense involved, the last two nights I've had Mexicans that lived in the US for a long time and had to come back here to wait for marriage residency and the other just lived for so long that I guess it's like being a resident. Anyway it's pretty nice having a translator and someone that can teach me a couple things I don't know. Even though I'm on a mongering vacation I really haven't been mongering as much as I planned, I actually have been taco mongering more than working girl mongering. Today I did a street girl at like 12 before I headed to Rosarito. Rosarito is a ton of fun, horse back riding, four wheeling, hyperlights. It's a great place to bring a girl down to I'm surprised more guys don't talk about it. I planned to go back to Tijuana earlier but I went down to the bar in Rosarito Beach Hotel and there was this girl signing there and she was so frigging sexy and I liked her voice so much I had my first groupie experience. I'm actually loading a song on youtube right now I took with the DSLR camera. Unforunately I think it was her first night public, they have no CDs or nothing. Finally hit badda bing after groupie movement was over but felt like picking up a girl for real so after a quick stop at another strip club right down the road me and this mexican / semi-american guy went to las pulgas. 3 friggin nights in a row and still haven't picked up a girl there. Danced with plenty but my spanish needs enough polishing without music pumping to make it harder. Gave up there and went to HK Adelitas, got my buddy a SG who somehow let him do greek for free, I had my tacos and called it a night. There's a guy that supposedly has a escort here in Rosarito that's hot tomorrow so hopefully that will pan out otherwise tomorrow night I'm going to pull a girl from badda bing. It's a little pricey but I just like the name of the club, it might not be exactly that but it's close. BTW Rosarito Beach Hotel, not so special. I'm picky as hell and this hotel has tons of things it could do to take it up a notch. Lots of hot little mexicans and mexican / american girls running around everywhere though.
I have been to the zone at least 30 times over the last 10 years but always stayed in Chula Vista and crossed daily. I am coming in September from Ohio for a long weekend and am considering staying in or near the zone for the first time. I keep getting emails from Hong Knong about their rooms. Are there any reccomendations from the well traveled gents that contribute to this forum who obviously know a lot more about where to stay than this occasional vistor. Any help would be appreciated. If I am asking in the wrong forum please let me know.
Because I got back from the DR late Wednesday, I decided not to hit Tijuana on Friday. But on Friday afternoon and evening, I was restless and anxious, and damn near had a seizure. But the TJA fiesta gave me a great excuse to head down on Saturday. After blowing through the second turnstile, I was suddenly relieved of all my stress.
Hotel.
I stayed at the Ticuan for the 5th time. I really like the hotel and the staff is always polite and friendly. I got the Empresarial Suite, which is one of the bigger rooms in the middle of the hotel. No windows to the outside world, thus, no outside noise. I booked and paid online, which saved me about 100 pesos. Brought the receipt and checked in about 2:30; no problems whatsoever.
Hong Kong.
I met Dude around 4:00 in the club. Usually I run alone, but I met Dude from the last TJA fiesta and he turned out to be a pretty solid running mate. It was still early and there were very few stunners in sight. Snatched a booth about the same time Elisabeth hit the front stage; love this girl. She's full of energy and always a hoot to play with. After she danced I brought her over for a drink so I could lick the sweat off her body, and she does work up a sweat. Did some tequila shots off her tits; a must do if you never have. She would not let me do a shot off her pineapple, lesson learned from the last time; it burns!
Later I scored my favorite booth and Dude and I was just enjoying the scenery when out of freaking nowhere, this half drunk, maybe completely drunk, cutie literally flopped between Dude and me. Even better, she brought her own beer! After she flopped down, she threw one leg over my legs and the other leg she threw over Dude's legs. And then for whatever marvelous reason, she pulled her panties aside to show off her beautiful pineapple! After I got religious and said 20 hail Marys, I yelled,"Mesero, a round of drinks pronto!"
She hung with us for a good hour or so. At one point, Dude moved to the other side and it was only her and me in the booth. And then for whatever splendid reason, she did this spin move and took one of her legs and raised it over my head, laid back, and pulled her panties aside again. Considering I was a tad hungry, I went for it; BINGO! When I got back up, Dude had this,"What in the fuck are you doing?" expression on his face. Shortly after, I moved to the other side so Dude could play with the sweetie; I do like to share.
Meanwhile, I fetched the tall, older, not great looking, big tittie woman with the magical hands so I could get a great massage in the booth. This woman is a sweetheart and never really seems to get much attention, but I like her a lot. During the massage, I turned around a saw a new blonde with dimples from hell. I was busy, so I told Dude to go and gather some intell on her; he came back with her name. Thank goodness he doesn't work in the intell field. I told Dude to get back over there and bring her back for a drink; which he did. I would have but I was under the spell of magical hands. Had a drink, got a phone number, then off to another bar.
Later in the evening, I came back looking for Dimples, but she was coordinating the sausage festival. Scored a couple of seats at the back stage just before the next show started. The lesbian show was with this new cute hottie and the hot little spinner. The spinner has been around HK for quite some time. Tiny girl that looked 13 when she had her braces on, now she looks at least 15. I never seen her in a show before, likely because I never stay that late, but I had a note from my mom that night.
Tropical.
Went in Tropical a couple of times because of the 2 for 1 special, and I like the music. This was the first night I saw the expansion and considering there were only a couple of people in there, it made me question the reasoning. But then again, there are plenty of things that I question in the Zona.
Chicago.
Stopped in there for a drink. Because it was past my bed time, there seemed to be more women that I have seen in the past. Even a couple of dancers using the lonely pole. The place seems very bright, which I guess is a plus so you can see the girls before you take them to the room and have a "What in the fuck happen to you?" moment.
New York.
Had a couple of drinks in there because I'm in love with one of the chunky servers. Still not sure about this place. They have a neat shower set up in the back. When we came in, there were 2 unattractive women and 1 equally unattractive man in the showers. Not sure why, maybe I missed the only good show of the evening.
Delicias.
Never been, so I had to see what was going on in that place. We were ushered upstairs where there was a stage, but absolutely zip, nada, not a damn thing going on! We passed on the drink.
La Valentina.
Dude wanted to check out this place; so we did. It was packed, no tables available and no Gringos in sight; did a circle and moved on.
Playboy.
At this point, I entered another Zona, the D-Zona. Something good happen in the place at one of the back tables with one of the Chicas, but damn if I can remember. I need to go back there just to solve that mystery.
For whatever reason, Dude and I decided we were going to visit every damn bar / club in the Zona; we fell way short of our goal. We were about to head into Las Chavelas when I ran into my chunky English speaking street girl. Her English is better than mine, especially after I have too many drinks. She is about one of the only street walkers that I've seen in the Zona. She is never in the same spot when I run into her. She looked in my eyes and said the three magical words,"Please fuck me." I turned to Dude and said,"I guess we are finished here."
Chunky and I headed to the store to get a small bottle of vodka (like I needed it!) and tasty orange juice. Got in the cab and off to the hotel. Now rumor has it that Hotel Ticuan has stopped letting unregistered guest in the hotel rooms. So I'm prepping Chunky in the cab. I told her that we will walk in the hotel like we fucking own the place. I told her not to look around dumbfounded, but to the elevator and up to the room. And if somebody tries to stops us, slap the hell out of him or her, then move on. Nobody said a word. It is not as if you could not see Chunky, if you didn't, you are either blind or dead.
Left about noon on Sunday. The line was freaking ridiculous. It was forever plus two days. It even doubled up at the end. It must have been at least a 3 hour wait. I gently kissed my Sentri card and was across within 3 minutes; life is good.
During the winter the pedestrian lines will back up to US crossing gate where the immigration application house is. I have not had to wait at all a few times. I might make a trip to Tijuana in late August or mid September.
SuperSteve
08-22-11, 22:04
I made a "run for the border" this past weekend. There was a group of six of us, and some of them I have been to four countries with, and others only three.
I got into town late Friday night due to company golf tournament. After checking into the hotel and showering off to Adelita's. I meet on of my amigo's who is off to arriba. I walk around for a bit and get the usual feels from the ladies and rolling of the eyes for arriba. I thought there were many hot ladies in town this weekend.
I was still looking for the rest of the guys, so off to HK. I paid my four dollars, and got my beer. In the club, again, it seemed like there were many hot ladies in the club, many who I have never seen. After a walk through Chavelas over to Tropical.
Tropical was hopping. Again, many nice looking ladies just sitting around waiting. One thing I do like about this club is the women do not bother you, you must go and get them, although the waiters are bringing them by often until they realize that I will pick for myself. I found the others here and after a couple of bottles, one rum, one tequila and some dancing, we are out the door.
I found my way over to Chicago, but my favorita was not working. Now this can be good, because there is an Asian looking lady in there that I have wanted to session with. She is busy, but there are 2-3 very doable ladies in there.
On to Valnetina's. It was crowded, but for me I only saw one lady that I would have taken. VGL girl next door type that was sitting with a local for the entire time we were in there.
Back to Hong Kong and we sat upstairs, which seems to be cooler than the main bar, or maybe I was just more wasted. Again we bought a bottle of rum, with cokes, and a Red Bull. It comes out to $70. 00, but if you have a group it makes sense as the per drink cost, and quality, go up.
Saturday much of the same, so I won't bore you. Although Saturday morning was quite a show at La Malquerida (sp?). All of a sudden from out of the Policia sub-station across the street a couple of Policia come running, and into the bar. The next thing you know they have a guy pushed down in the street cuffing him, and he has blood all over his shirt. Soon three mesero's have another guy out in the street on the ground, with two more Policia from the sub-station. The pull out their batons and raise them, at which point the guy takes the hint and is on the road. One guy comes out with his hand, and arm, covered in blood, but he appears to be "the good guy" in this. The are actually heping him. It appeared that it may have been a bottle fight, since no weapons were in sight.
Anyway, in IMO the looks of the ladies was up this past weekend. The exception was the amount of street girl's out. It seemed to be way down, although their are still some VGL girls, and it is always a pleasure to walk around the alley and check it out.
I will probably be back in town next weekend since the quality to me is up pretty high.
Health & happiness to all.
i was still looking for the rest of the guys, so off to hk. i paid my four dollars, and got my beer. in the club, again, it seemed like there were many hot ladies in the club, many who i have never seen.damn steve, i must have just missed you. i was wondering why speedy's tequila bottle was almost empty!
SuperSteve
08-22-11, 23:09
damn steve, i must have just missed you. i was wondering why speedy's tequila bottle was almost empty!it would have been nice to meet you.
this time he took the spout off and the tequila was really flowing. i did manage to stay off the stage show this time though.
speedy was over with us at tropical partying after his shift.
I am considering staying in or near the zone for the first time. Are there any reccomendations from the well traveled gents that contribute to this forum. Any help would be appreciated.Stay at Hotel Enva, located half a block from The Arch on Calle Primera, $22 / noche, hot shower, relatively quiet, steam bath next door, small restaurant on the other side with excellent food at great prices. Gringo mongers stay there regularly.
MadisonGuy
08-23-11, 10:15
Ticuan hotel is the only hotel in my opinion. The rest are cockroach houses. Ticuan is located perfectly for prime action of all kinds.
I have been to the zone at least 30 times over the last 10 years but always stayed in Chula Vista and crossed daily. I am coming in September from Ohio for a long weekend and am considering staying in or near the zone for the first time. I keep getting emails from Hong Knong about their rooms. Are there any reccomendations from the well traveled gents that contribute to this forum who obviously know a lot more about where to stay than this occasional vistor. Any help would be appreciated. If I am asking in the wrong forum please let me know.
MadisonGuy
08-23-11, 10:27
So finally I have met up with a girl not at a club, it took a friggin week and it was a girl from Bada bing in Rosarito. I was actually about to take a girl out of las Chavelas for the night when she called and I was like shit free is better than paying so I left the other girl hanging for a later date. Well guess who the fuck showed up at Las Pulgas, no not the other girl. Friggin Newtons god damn law that states everytime you bring a fucking girl to a place that is the best time to pick up other girls. There were so many hot single girls there, one was so so so my type I would've married her on the spot. FUCK YOU MR. NEWTON. Second bad thing is this girl still hasn't fucked me, I have offered her money just to sleep in my hotel and no sex and she turns it down. She said it's that time of the month which maybe it is but throw a guy a bone. She has serious insecurity issues though and I have dated many a lady but I can tell she has been broken a couple times so I'll just be nice and let her do her thing. Anyway I have started to see some fruits of my labor but I have also realized that language is a huge slow down. If I spoke fluent spanish I would be very much better off right now. Dumb as fuckers live less than an hour away from a english country and they don't speak english. And fuck las pulgas for serving drinks so damn cheap I get drunk of $10. I just want some morning head is that too much to ask for? I got to say though I love it here in the shit hole of Mexico. Tijuana and Rosarito make the perfect union. I hope to get down to Ensanada too and broaden my horizons. For all you first time mongers I can tell you it is very safe here if you aren't a complete idiot. I've been walking down the highways at 2am because there was no taxis and walked for miles no problems, same goes in Tijuana. I am starting to feel it is my second home. I only wish I could get asian prices with latin pussy. Alright first entire day with no sex so I better get my ass to sleep and hit something early to make up for it.
MadisonGuy
08-24-11, 06:41
I think Tijuana has a bum reputation. After spending over a week here now I think it's a great place to not only monger but enjoy life. I just had an awesome dinner and a entire bottle of wine for $30. Equivelant would have been atleast double in the US. I bump into guys at clubs down here who warn me to never ever step foot outside of the club, let me tell everyone who has heard that shit it is a complete pile of shit. I have walked atleast 100 miles in Tijuana in a week, a lot of times during the day I walk around with my camera and take pictures, at night I walk from club to club. My normal route is from Ticuan, down to Zona HK area, then back up past my hotel to New Body then Las Pulgas. Sometimes during the day I go to Zona Rio to the mall. Just so there isn't that, well maybe he fits in idea. I'm white white, blonde hair, I'm not bum I wear a watch that costs a couple thousand dollars and my camera costs a couple g's as well. I always carry atleast $3-500 on me incase I bump into a seniorita I just have to have. Sure it's a shit hole in a lot of spots but as long as you're cool and don't act like a ******* it's a lot safer than everyone makes it out to be. Unfortunately the few that post they got robbed probably had it coming, I saw a asian guy yesterday following around some guy who just looked like bad news, but because he spoke english he felt he could trust him. I wanted so badly to step in and tell the guy listen stop following this loser and come with me to HK and you will enjoy yourself. There's so many people that ask where to grab a lady here, but instead of asking an American they ask anyone who speaks english. I think it's time the mongers step out and start helping each other out not just on the forum but in the flesh. I honestly think Tijuana is tied with Costa Rica for my favorite monger spot, it's a hell of a lot cheaper and I honestly think it's safer here. Las Pulgas is way safer than the clubs I went to in Costa Rica, I think a true girlfriend would be easier to find in Costa Rica but for sex, good food and good times Tijuana is hard to beat.
I honestly think Tijuana is tied with Costa Rica for my favorite monger spot, it's a hell of a lot cheaper and I honestly think it's safer here. Las Pulgas is way safer than the clubs I went to in Costa Rica, I think a true girlfriend would be easier to find in Costa Rica but for sex, good food and good times Tijuana is hard to beat.I would never walk around the streets in San Jose at night, even the locals don't walk around. But I have no problems walking the streets in Tijuana at night; so I think, not sure, that I might agree with you.
I think Tijuana has a bum reputation. After spending over a week here now I think it's a great place to not only monger but enjoy life. I just had an awesome dinner and a entire bottle of wine for $30. Equivelant would have been atleast double in the US. I bump into guys at clubs down here who warn me to never ever step foot outside of the club, let me tell everyone who has heard that shit it is a complete pile of shit. I have walked atleast 100 miles in Tijuana in a week, a lot of times during the day I walk around with my camera and take pictures, at night I walk from club to club. My normal route is from Ticuan, down to Zona HK area, then back up past my hotel to New Body then Las Pulgas. Sometimes during the day I go to Zona Rio to the mall. Just so there isn't that, well maybe he fits in idea. I'm white white, blonde hair, I'm not bum I wear a watch that costs a couple thousand dollars and my camera costs a couple g's as well. I always carry atleast $3-500 on me incase I bump into a seniorita I just have to have. Sure it's a shit hole in a lot of spots but as long as you're cool and don't act like a ******* it's a lot safer than everyone makes it out to be. Unfortunately the few that post they got robbed probably had it coming, I saw a asian guy yesterday following around some guy who just looked like bad news, but because he spoke english he felt he could trust him. I wanted so badly to step in and tell the guy listen stop following this loser and come with me to HK and you will enjoy yourself. There's so many people that ask where to grab a lady here, but instead of asking an American they ask anyone who speaks english. I think it's time the mongers step out and start helping each other out not just on the forum but in the flesh. I honestly think Tijuana is tied with Costa Rica for my favorite monger spot, it's a hell of a lot cheaper and I honestly think it's safer here. Las Pulgas is way safer than the clubs I went to in Costa Rica, I think a true girlfriend would be easier to find in Costa Rica but for sex, good food and good times Tijuana is hard to beat.Congratulations on doing Tijuana the right way. When you mentioned in a previous post that you weren't mongering as much as you thought you were going to it hit close to home. Hanging out and having fun will eventually lead to a piece of ass. You may not get all the knick knacks you want out of the session but it will do most of the time.
The culinary experience is awesome in Tijuana. It is so under rated it's depressing.
Tijuana is safe but STILL be on guard. Danger is still very real down there but experienced mongers with street smarts will be ok. The only problems I had on my last rip were:
1. Late at night on revolucion guys hang out on the corner pretending that they are crossing the street when in reality they are waiting to follow the right person. I picked up on that a few times and had to ditch guys *casually following me. They were looking for prey.
2. You still need to be REALLY careful in the zona. Especially in the little nooks or side streets where you are out of plain site. I had to avoid 2 young thugs that I know were out to jump someone but I felt it immediately and I wasn't on any main path. My fault.
The zona is literally swarming with ex cons fresh out of prison but you can feel safe if you take the necessary precautions.
Besides certain dangers the general population is really pleasant and kind. Most residents are happy and have a really fun spirit about them. You can't really get too moody in Tijuana unless you are starving. That would be like living in the french quarter in new orleans and being a grump. It's possible but not likely with all the "life" around you.
Again congratulations for doing your own thing and taking a chance. At some point Tijuana runs it's course but it's always worth a return trip eventually.
I enjoy reading your reports!
* I tried doing san jose at night but man is that freaky. NO one is on the streets at all. It's a ghost town. I went maybe 7 blocks into the centro and took my ass right out of there. The walk from el castillo to the del rey is ok...just a few men in dressed in womens clothing.
SuperSteve
08-24-11, 16:16
I was in Tijuana last weekend and walked from the Zona to my hotel on Ave. Revo both nights. For many, I probably wouldn't recommend it. I am a fat, old f*rt of about 245 lbs. Of blubbering muscle, and I carry myself with a "don't phuck with me attitude".
A couple of things I would recommend if you are walking, especially at night. From the Zona up the hill and Articulo 123 I always walk in the street. It is very wide and they will have come come out of the shadows to you. Once on Ave. Revo I am very aware of who is around me, both front and back. I will stop and put my back up against the wall, let others pass, look around, and then continue on. To me, it is important that you put your back against a wall, that way they can only come at you from the front, and that is not good for them. They want the easy way out.
I agree about walking in Tijuana, and CR, although I have done both. I would suggest that if you enjoyed CR that you may want to try Medellin, Colombia. I have not been back to CR since my first trip to MDE. My favorite night spot in MDE is Mayorista which reminds me of Tijuana very much.
Health & happiness to all.
MadisonGuy
08-24-11, 17:38
Yeah there is definetely more people on the streets at night in Tijuana than San Jose. At night I stay out of the shadows, I keep an eye out over my shoulder I haven't noticed anyone of concern. I think it might be a little safer here than San Jose. Here the girls will be surprised I walk around but they will be surprised because most guys they meet don't and they think it's safe. In San Jose I couldn't get some of the girls to walk around with me at night because they thought it was dangerous. I'm not saying everyone should walk around at night and not worry about stuff, but when I hear a guy telling me he comes every single week drives to car wash and takes taxi to Adelitas and has never been anywhere else because it his unsafe I just am baffled. He has mongered probably 500 times more than me in Tijuana but yet I have seen way more than him. To me that takes out the part of mongering I love the best which is chance, exploration and getting that true GFE experience.
Baxter Slade
08-24-11, 19:01
Hey Madisonguy just curious did you ever explore that intel you received about those bars off the beaten path where you can get. 2 BJ's. And any places you have come across that may be good to take a date. For instance how would a night at the Rosarito Beach Hotel be, is there enough to do around there. And how long is this mongers dream vacation going to last?
I honestly think Tijuana is tied with Costa Rica for my favorite monger spot, it's a hell of a lot cheaper and I honestly think it's safer here. Las Pulgas is way safer than the clubs I went to in Costa Rica, I think a true girlfriend would be easier to find in Costa Rica but for sex, good food and good times Tijuana is hard to beat.I agree with this sentiment, IMHO based on my trips to CR. In San Jose I stay in the Gringo Gulch, but have been out to the Pacific Coast beach towns too. I have had no problems walking around San Jose, all over the place during the day, but have no desire to walk around at night. It's simply not safe, and as a spanish speaker I've warned other mongers who only speak english to just take a taxi. Heck, there are many cities in the USA that I won't walk around at night, so it's just a matter of using commen sense. Tijuana certainly does have it's share of violence like many cities, but I don't feel it's as dangerous if you're using common sense, and not out trying to score drugs in places you shouldn't be at.
MadisonGuy
08-25-11, 01:22
I had the same questions about Rosarito but the second you get there you realize that it's Mexico's second Cancun. I will post some pics, but trust me there is plenty to do until the strip clubs open at 7. Plus it's only 15 minutes back to Tijuana so one night I even went back to Tijuana for fun. I do wish there was more mongering in Rosarito I prefer to do pool and beach stuff during the day. The spa was also unbelievable at Rosarito Beach hotel, although it is expensive there are cheaper hotels but that hotel is smack dab in the middle of it. I'll have to post some pictures of Rosarito beach, but within 300yards of the hotel there is horse back riding. 4 wheeling, and you can take a ride on a hyper lite or whatever those planes are. The beach is crowded on the weekends, I'd say equal to a Daytona. Honestly I'm all mongered out, I took Alejandra or something like that upstairs at HK but that's it for me today. I stopped at a spa on Revolution and got a great massage, had dinner and now time for a nap so I can hopefully hang tonight at Las Pulgas. Got to post another something quick in HK, I think they did something dumb as hell for the weekend.
Hey Madisonguy just curious did you ever explore that intel you received about those bars off the beaten path where you can get. 2 BJ's. And any places you have come across that may be good to take a date. For instance how would a night at the Rosarito Beach Hotel be, is there enough to do around there. And how long is this mongers dream vacation going to last?
Big John 1
08-25-11, 06:31
Just checked in this pm! A bit worn but great for 250p, it was 500p. Internet wireless in lobby. Just came up from San Blas, Nayarit, split with Mexican novia, mainly here for another 6 months Mexican visa renewal. For 250p, really, I doubt better hotel in Tijuana! Great for budget mongers. I walked to zone had two famous tacos around from Hong Kong, I bought a chica two tacos, Alicia, chaparita 19 staying in Hotel Alaska that is real young for me I am 67 but she offerred herself to me for 200p INCLUDING ROOM, how could I refuse. Body 7, service 5, but what can one expect for 200p and 2 tacos? I have official business manaNA so cannot party right now. Big John
MadisonGuy
08-25-11, 13:03
Fuck I don't know what it is but I am destined to be a fucking virgin at las pulgas. I had a girl tonight fucking in love with me, her friends were liking me, she was telling other guys she was with me. Then all of a sudden her and her friends bounce and are gone. What the fuck? I had an awesome time so I'm not saying it isn't a fun place to go but seriously I'm not even looking to get laid the first night just looking for a solid in. So while I was there I was with my buddy I met in Rosarito, there was another young hot girl dancing with an older guy. I was like shit I can pull that girl from him, he says to me you better not those guys are drug cartel. I honestly don't think they were, so my friend who got deported for stabbing a guy 4 times and admits to shooting people, although I didn't want to correct him because I know how hard it is to actually shoot someone is a big ass puss. Two old guys in cowboy hats does not make you drug cartel in any reality I live in. So after Las Pulgas I walked up to New Body there was one girl I would've screwed but she didn't work hard enough for it. I guess it's my fault though because I've been in there every day for a week and never took a girl upstairs, I've become the boy that's cried wolf in a way. Anyway so before Las Pulgas we stopped in HK and some goofy looking mexican guy jumped off the second floor into the pool. Honestly it felt like 95 degrees in the place and I almost thought about it. Not only does the pool make it more crowded but it also must affect the humidity because I barely could finish a beer before getting out of that place. So I screwed a girl around 2 today but the highlights for the day would be the foot spa on Revolution around 3rd street and the camarones tacos I just ate which were fucking unbelievable. I found out a couple nights ago I have been eating tripe tacos which I wasn't exactly exited about finding out, when they call it tripa it sounds different enough to catch me off guard. They tasted really good but I still can't eat it anymore just because it's fucking intestines. So I heard like 5 people today tell me I need to go to Ensenada so that might be what happens tomorrow. I still have 2 girls I want to screw. 1 in HK and 1 in Las Chevalas and the trip is complete.
DJ FourMoney
08-25-11, 21:49
Just checked in this pm! A bit worn but great for 250p, it was 500p. Internet wireless in lobby. Just came up from San Blas, Nayarit, split with Mexican novia, mainly here for another 6 months Mexican visa renewal. For 250p, really, I doubt better hotel in Tijuana! Great for budget mongers. I walked to zone had two famous tacos around from Hong Kong, I bought a chica two tacos, Alicia, chaparita 19 staying in Hotel Alaska that is real young for me I am 67 but she offerred herself to me for 200p INCLUDING ROOM, how could I refuse. Body 7, service 5, but what can one expect for 200p and 2 tacos? I have official business manaNA so cannot party right now. Big JohnThanks Big John! I need to save money as much as possible without going too extreme.
great for 250pBig John:
Do you know how long this promotion is going to last?
Thanks.
EZ
Country John
08-26-11, 18:27
So finally I have met up with a girl not at a club, it took a friggin week and it was a girl from Bada bing in Rosarito. I was actually about to take a girl out of las Chavelas for the night when she called and I was like shit free is better than paying so I left the other girl hanging for a later date. Well guess who the fuck showed up at Las Pulgas, no not the other girl. Friggin Newtons god damn law that states everytime you bring a fucking girl to a place that is the best time to pick up other girls. There were so many hot single girls there, one was so so so my type I would've married her on the spot. FUCK YOU MR. NEWTON. Second bad thing is this girl still hasn't fucked me, I have offered her money just to sleep in my hotel and no sex and she turns it down. She said it's that time of the month which maybe it is but throw a guy a bone. She has serious insecurity issues though and I have dated many a lady but I can tell she has been broken a couple times so I'll just be nice and let her do her thing. Anyway I have started to see some fruits of my labor but I have also realized that language is a huge slow down. If I spoke fluent spanish I would be very much better off right now. Dumb as fuckers live less than an hour away from a english country and they don't speak english. And fuck las pulgas for serving drinks so damn cheap I get drunk of $10. I just want some morning head is that too much to ask for? I got to say though I love it here in the shit hole of Mexico. Tijuana and Rosarito make the perfect union. I hope to get down to Ensanada too and broaden my horizons. For all you first time mongers I can tell you it is very safe here if you aren't a complete idiot. I've been walking down the highways at 2am because there was no taxis and walked for miles no problems, same goes in Tijuana. I am starting to feel it is my second home. I only wish I could get asian prices with latin pussy. Alright first entire day with no sex so I better get my ass to sleep and hit something early to make up for it.First of all, it's MURPHY'S law you are falling victim to, not Newton's, unless you were having trouble standing.
Seems like you're trying too hard to being a bit over the top with the girls. Turn the volume down a bit, and bring the profile with it. It's true that, in Mexico, girls on the rag think guys don't want anything to do with them sexually. I have friends who won't sleep with the wife when she's OTR.
Playing the monger game involves being a "Sportfucker." You find a girl that you want to screw, then you screw her. No need for expansive or time consuming games. It could involve other games besides that, like head games; these seldom lead to anything productive, especially if you are dealing with a pro.
Take your time. Relax. Enjoy yourself.
Big John 1
08-26-11, 21:49
Nelson office says 250pesos weekdays till at least October. Suppose to be 500p weekend days but Big John just negotiated them down to 330p Friday night! Hey this is Mexico! Also, desayuno across street 20p, not bad. But a much better breakfast Tortas Marce, Constitucion why Ninos Heros next to Chinese place hole in wall very clean, huge take out to hotels as no space in cafe great breakfast for 25pesos. Compliments of Big John, the budget mongers amigo! LOL! Disfrute (Enjoy)
Nelson office says 250pesos weekdays till at least October. Suppose to be 500p weekend days but Big John just negotiated them down to 330p Friday night! Hey this is Mexico! Also, desayuno across street 20p, not bad. But a much better breakfast Tortas Marce, Constitucion why Ninos Heros next to Chinese place hole in wall very clean, huge take out to hotels as no space in cafe great breakfast for 25pesos. Compliments of Big John, the budget mongers amigo! LOL! Disfrute (Enjoy)The restaurant directly across the street from the nelson on revolucion is really good. I've eaten there several times. I think it's called museo. Same owners as nelson.
Nelson office says 250pesos weekdays till at least October. Suppose to be 500p weekend days but Big John just negotiated them down to 330p Friday night! Hey this is Mexico! Also, desayuno across street 20p, not bad. But a much better breakfast Tortas Marce, Constitucion why Ninos Heros next to Chinese place hole in wall very clean, huge take out to hotels as no space in cafe great breakfast for 25pesos. Compliments of Big John, the budget mongers amigo! LOL! Disfrute (Enjoy)Constitucion and Ninos Heroes run parallel to each other.
MadisonGuy
08-28-11, 06:22
I taxied back from Rosarito today, just wasn't feeling it out there this time. It was a great call because today was a great day. I was drunk by around 3, then took a girl in Las Chavelas up who was skinny but has huge tits, it was like one of the seven wonders of the world and I was loving every minute of it. I'm really bad with names and I think it doesn't have much to do with memory but more just lack of care, I have like a dozen phone numbers hers included in my phone but no names to go with them. I can remember each girl though by her number but I can't remember any of their names, hell maybe I didn't even ask. Anyway after the romp upstairs it was taco time, killed 6 tacos at the corner taco shop. I was still feeling great so I stopped at the massage place on Revolution around 3rd, it was my 4th massage there and they are always good and make for a great end to an early night because they close at 10pm. Then went back toward zona norte and stopped at this little hole in the wall that does manicure and got one because I need a nail trim, unfortunately they didn't trim my nails and did about everything else but it was really cheap, like $7. After that I felt I owed it to myself to walk around and look at the street girls and damn there was a lot of them out. I'm going to wait for some fresh meat though in the morning so I just walked back to Ticuan and killed a flan to finish out a great night. Tomorrow is the last night where I can really let er rip so hopefully I finish the monger vacation out strong. Oh yeah I asked about girls from Monterrey at Hong Kong, the masero I talked to made it sound like there's very few girls there, I didn't talk to any from monterrey that's for sure. I would've loved some street prices for girls in HK.
Guitarrefreak
08-28-11, 08:14
My own little trips probably can't top madisonguy's but heck. Sharing it anyway for the benefit of the crowd.
Buddy 'dragged' me down to Tijuana last night (actually I kindda like the fact I can put the blame on him). Stopped at tacos el gordo on H and downed some adobada before heading to the border. Parked at the usual 5 bux / 8hr behind jack in the box. Then the 5 dll taxi ride to.
Amnesia. The place that brings me both joy and pain. They reinitiated the cover fee (5 dll) but gives you a free drink. Last night was noches pirata. And I was pleasantly surprised by the effort they put into it. The last time I went was hawaiian night and to be honest, it was a little pathetic. But they redeemed themselves w / pirate night this time. Anyways, got a tequila shot for the bebida gratis and ordered my usual dos equis. Not sure why the mesero returned me 18 dlls change out of 20 dlls when the beer was supposed to be 3 dlls each. Anyway, I digress.
I wasn't feeling much about spending money last night except to accompany my buddy who made it blatantly clear that he has blue balls. So I grabbed him one chick (petite blonde) who I recognize and sure as hell recognizes me. Anyway, I like the fact that I can cop a feel from her every once in a while without needing to pay any propina but she is obviously a gold digger (ok, rightfully so) , so I handed off to my buddy (actually my buddy had 2 dinosaurs on him prior to that and I had one, but that story isn't interesting and we got them to leave eventually).
While buddy was getting a dance, a pretty little thing called violetta came to me and sat down and we just did the usual BS chit chat and I got her a fischa for 10 dlls (used to be 8 dlls, maybe they raised the price, those fuckers.) , good thing was she took her time finishing the drink and I thought I had good feelings about this girl, the fact that she was a hottie with braces seemed to stir something within me. Anyway, a phone call came for her and she asked for my permission to take off, which I did as a gentleman would, I needed a break anyway.
5 mins later, she returned and just dragged me to the back room for a private dance, my usual self would be a little annoyed since I didn't give her permission to do so, but I kind of liked the fact that she just went straight like that. A little aggression from the girl like this always adds a spark of excitement IMHO. She did her dance well, and gave me an "imitation BJ" over my jeans. She casually gave me a nice wet kiss at the very end, which I find encouraging, by this time, I can tell the differences between girls who have "potential" and those who don't. But then again, to each his own.
After I returned to my seat, buddy was back there, and I was checking out a dancer on the stage, a hottie in red, on closer inspection, turned out to be my ATF #2 from amnesia. 2 drunk idiots were trying to harass her from under the stage and making a fool of themselves, I was her knight in shining armor (ok fuck it who am I kidding) by tipping her twice which seemed to encourage the crowd to tip more. When she got off the stage, she immediately swirl pass those 2 drunk guys and came immediately to me with a fat wet kiss (even when I tipped her, she kissed me, but not the other tippers). Anyway. She asked for my permission to sit down, which I gladly let her. And we let the mesero to come and ask if I wanted to get her a drink, she never forces me to get her a drink anyway.
She took her long sweet time to finish that tiny drink, and even chewing on the ice to extend the life of the drink. And even when the 2nd drink was ordered, she finished the last drop in the first drink before moving on to the 2nd. I would like to say I found myself a keeper, anyways, my buddy's blue balls were seriously going to burst. So I apologized to her that I have to leave. She indicated to me she was sad but made no fuss about it. I gave her a 5 dll tip and just to be funny, she asked me for another dll to slide into her thong.
Side note. I wouldn't say this chica is the hottest or prettiest out there, heck, I wouldn't even say she is my cup of tea in the regular world, but somehow, something about her attitude, totally does it for me. The fact that she has 2 kids don't bother me at all. She still looks fine the way she is. Anyway, I digress again.
So as I was heading out and down the stairs (after much wet kissing from ATF #2) , I heard a loud yell from upstairs of my name (it. Was. Fucking. Loud) I was thinking,"what the fuck" so I walked back up and there was my cute little sinaloa blonde ATF #1 whom I have tried to keep moderate touch with via txt msg but she disappeared for a while with sporadic txts to me. She was jumping up and down and yelling my name and hugging and kissing and she literally jumped on to me with her legs clung around my waist. I kid you not. It was embarrassing (in a good way) but I was also worried that ATF #2 was going to see me. But whatever.
So, if you are still following my story, I was about to leave but couldn't just yet, with some broken english / espanol conversation, I learnt from her that she was on a family trip in Cancun, and her phone got water damaged and bla bla bla. Anyways, she really wanted me to stay and I really wanted to. But didn't want BBB (blue balled buddy, as I shall call him now) to continue with the anguish, besides, I don't have enough di nero on me to meaningfully last the night there. She made no fuss about it and was as passionate as can be though she did say she wanted to give me a lap dance, which I obliged, so 20 dll there.
Slow and sensual, with some aggressive dry humping and wet kisses and all the nice shit that makes me feel like a boy going through puberty again in the back room. And she promised me that she will try to get in touch with me. I thought about leaving her a tip, but thought, nah. I want to see what the long term potential is like on this one, don't want to spoil her (or maybe I am just kidding myself.) and after the dance (actually, bell boy called her a few times and she just ignored him) but eventually we had to get up to leave. Anyway she took her sweet time giving me my goodbye hug and kisses and even lastly, we just blew a couple of kiss goodbyes before I forced myself to leave the place.
My BBB was confused as fuck by my encounters. (hey, I think I deserve this after all those fuckin investments from before.)
Anyway, took 5 dll cab to zona norte. Cab driver was a funny dude, took us to the alley west of coahuila to show us the hot looking lady-guys. I am straight, but I am also man enough to admit that those guys do look hot. .
Anyway, took a walk on coahuila. Though I had a raging hard on and become a bit of a BB from the dances earlier during the night, to be honest, I maybe have temporarily lost my lust for random fucking. Maybe its a seasonal thing, I don't know. Nothing caught BBB's eyes so we went to adelitas. Packed as usual with the girls being as pro as they can be. Saw my regular petite looking girl with braces swinging her body around and always smiling when she sees me. I have never gone arriba with her and didn't have plans to, but she still smiles at me nonetheless, also saw a very tall slim girl by the name of kim right by men's room, she tickled me as I pass by her and she struck a conversation with me. Nice to eff around with her a little but I know she probably won't be that great in the sack, so I passed, BBB didn't see anything he liked, so we went to back alley again, then headed to HK after paying the 4 dll cover.
The. Fucking. Pool. Sucked. Crowded the place and was just totally humid. Was not impressed by the selections on Friday night. Maybe I am just more of a jerk now. But anyway, spare you guys the detail. My BBBB, who is now becoming more of a BBA (acquaintance) refuses to give up despite my telling him not to force things to happen and I didn't want to make the rounds anymore in HK. Eventually, we gave up and he returned to adelitas.
Turned out that he likes petite and bubbly chicks. He managed to find one and went vamos arriba with her. I took the time to chat with the petite braces girl a little and she ask me why I never go fucky sucky with her. I gave the usual BS of promising her if the next time I see her, and I still have mucho leches and she smile at me, we will go. I told her tonight I am no more leches and she was laughing. To me. A girl who reacts to your jokes, despite it being dry, is always a good sign. Anyway, I spent the time checking out the live show. A full bodied tall long hair hottie was putting on a show, dragged an old dude and stripped him. Put shaving cream, gave him a quick BJ, rode him a little, let him DATY her. Until she pulled out a dildo and tried to shove it into his ass upon which he refused.
Side story. Now, I don't know about you guys, I personally won't let myself be seeing naked and fucking a WG in public, publicly that is. But if I already am (hypothetically) , what more is a dildo up the ass? For any of the friends here who may have been to asia. And know about poison dragon drill and its derivatives, I rest my case, for those of you who don't, go read up and educate yourselves a little. (ok, PDD is simply put, AR, but basically, if you don't mind a tongue up your ass, then.) ok I digress again.
Anyway, it was an ok show, the guy didn't get off and the girl didn't really pump up the crowd as much. By this time, BBB was back. (ok no longer blue balled, maybe more RB = relaxed ball) and RBB was ready to leave. He told me that the session was ok and because of the language barrier, he couldn't get too much passion into it. I tell him my espanol is bad too, not even high school standard, but its basically the vibe you give to a girl that also plays a big role in the level of service and passion she provides (of course, some girls are immune to any vibe. Or smell).
So we took a 5 dll taxi cab back to border and come back to the real world again.
Total damage for me the entire night was about 100 dlls, from 8:30 to 12 time frame, just drinks, dance food and tips. RBB was about 200 because of the extra session.
I sent some txts to my ATF #1 today but she still hasn't responded, but its ok, I know we will find some chance to meet up.
Tonight's update though. Is I received a txt message from a chica I banged twice at mermaids (across the street from HK) , she speaks english just fine but for reason I won't go into, she is a regular girl working at zona norte. Anyway, she txted me to tell me she just returned from Mexico city and also Cancun vacation and apologized for not keeping in touch because her 619 number didn't have reception there. We exchanged a couple of flirtatious and suggestive texts and she revealed to me that she no longer works there. But she misses me and would like to see me.
Now. The interesting part is. Previously when she was still working, I suggested to her the possibility of me seeing her outside work and compensate her accordingly and she was open to the idea. That never got to happen since life got in the way. But now she's back, I casually asked her. If she's not working there now, then I can I get her out on a regular date. Her answer, which came me an immediate boner, was "yeah sure anytime, I miss you alot". I will spare the crowd the intrinsic of the txt message exchanged, but basically I was trying to gauge and see if she was still in her money making state of mind wanting me to go down to Tijuana right now to meet with her so I told her I already went yesterday. She gave me a sad face but told me that we will find a time to set a date for a date but she was sleepy and wanted to hit the hay, I told her to have a good sleep and take care. Normally, I would expect the convo to end there but she replied a txt with stuff along the lines of. Thanks, take care too, have a good night, kisses, I miss you so much. Etc etc.
Anyway, I am personally curious to see where this will lead. As countryjohn has advised numerous times in this forum, a WG is a WG is a WG (is a WG) , so I am not hoping for too much. The only thing about this last story I am sharing is. (as jerry seinfield says."guys just want to check things out"). I would like to see where this leads, even if it is just to satisfy my own curiosity. But I am opening up the floor to anyone who wants to chime in, or call me out for making a story sound much better than it really is (and maybe that is indeed the case).
Anyhow. I got inspired to type all this tonight after a big meal in downtown SD. And would love to hear some opinions.
Peace out
Guitarrefreak
08-28-11, 08:16
The board seems to clean up formatting? I was typing my previous post like I was reading with multiple full stops to indicate train of thought but they got cleaned up.
MadisonGuy
08-28-11, 18:02
Guitar I think you are already finding out that there is a huge difference between strip clubs in Tijuana compared to US when it comes to giving out phone numbers. Here it is so easy to get it from every single girl and you will get the correct number too, but like you have already found out it's incredibly hard to get them to text you back consistently. I really can't make sense out of it myself, it's almost just a Mexican thing because it's not just girls working at the clubs but most people here are like that. But there's always that chance which your mermaids girl could be, it sounds like she's into you and I would say go for it. At the end of the day you can't lose anything. Get a date set up and don't mention money and see what happens. I'm going to have to check out amnesia again, I went in there one night and there was only like 3-4 girls but my cabbie told me that's a good place also.
Ath Trainer
08-28-11, 18:12
I taxied back from Rosarito today, just wasn't feeling it out there this time. It was a great call because today was a great day. I was drunk by around 3, then took a girl in Las Chavelas up who was skinny but has huge tits, it was like one of the seven wonders of the world and I was loving every minute of it. I'm really bad with names and I think it doesn't have much to do with memory but more just lack of care, I have like a dozen phone numbers hers included in my phone but no names to go with them. I can remember each girl though by her number but I can't remember any of their names, hell maybe I didn't even ask. Anyway after the romp upstairs it was taco time, killed 6 tacos at the corner taco shop. I was still feeling great so I stopped at the massage place on Revolution around 3rd, it was my 4th massage there and they are always good and make for a great end to an early night because they close at 10pm. Then went back toward zona norte and stopped at this little hole in the wall that does manicure and got one because I need a nail trim, unfortunately they didn't trim my nails and did about everything else but it was really cheap, like $7. After that I felt I owed it to myself to walk around and look at the street girls and damn there was a lot of them out. I'm going to wait for some fresh meat though in the morning so I just walked back to Ticuan and killed a flan to finish out a great night. Tomorrow is the last night where I can really let er rip so hopefully I finish the monger vacation out strong. Oh yeah I asked about girls from Monterrey at Hong Kong, the masero I talked to made it sound like there's very few girls there, I didn't talk to any from monterrey that's for sure. I would've loved some street prices for girls in HK.Not knocking all the chicas you have done, but, I think your biggest accomplishment so far was the 6 tacos you conquered. Good job!
MadisonGuy
08-28-11, 18:49
Not knocking all the chicas you have done, but, I think your biggest accomplishment so far was the 6 tacos you conquered. Good job!That certainly will be the highlight of the trip for sure. I always joke with the guys I chat with in the taco shop and say the first time I came to Tijuana was for the girls, since the first trip I come for the tacos. There are days I crave the tacos more than chicas, and days I'm sick from the tacos and crave neither. Ha ha.
Ath Trainer
08-28-11, 23:50
That certainly will be the highlight of the trip for sure. I always joke with the guys I chat with in the taco shop and say the first time I came to Tijuana was for the girls, since the first trip I come for the tacos. There are days I crave the tacos more than chicas, and days I'm sick from the tacos and crave neither. Ha ha.Unfortunately, I've had nights where the best thing was the tacos.
Guitarrefreak
08-29-11, 02:24
Yeap. I think the reason the mermaid's call txt me back (in fact thats what we have been doing today) , is that she has a SD number. Compared to my ATF from amnesia. Who uses tijuana numbers, I think they are also concerned about the cost they incur.
At amnesia, I always feel comfortable, maybe a little too comfortable, of course, they ought to treat me that way considering the number of times I have been there, and the money I have spent there personally and the friends I bring. But I guess in some sense we are paying for the feeling we can get down there.
If you are still going to be around this week. Maybe we can give it a try together. But I recall you are almost on your way back?
Guitar I think you are already finding out that there is a huge difference between strip clubs in Tijuana compared to US when it comes to giving out phone numbers. Here it is so easy to get it from every single girl and you will get the correct number too, but like you have already found out it's incredibly hard to get them to text you back consistently. I really can't make sense out of it myself, it's almost just a Mexican thing because it's not just girls working at the clubs but most people here are like that. But there's always that chance which your mermaids girl could be, it sounds like she's into you and I would say go for it. At the end of the day you can't lose anything. Get a date set up and don't mention money and see what happens. I'm going to have to check out amnesia again, I went in there one night and there was only like 3-4 girls but my cabbie told me that's a good place also.
MadisonGuy
08-29-11, 03:55
Yeap. I think the reason the mermaid's call txt me back (in fact thats what we have been doing today) , is that she has a SD number. Compared to my ATF from amnesia. Who uses tijuana numbers, I think they are also concerned about the cost they incur.
At amnesia, I always feel comfortable, maybe a little too comfortable, of course, they ought to treat me that way considering the number of times I have been there, and the money I have spent there personally and the friends I bring. But I guess in some sense we are paying for the feeling we can get down there.
If you are still going to be around this week. Maybe we can give it a try together. But I recall you are almost on your way back?Yup my fun is ending tomorrow night later to avoid lines. I just go back from Amnesia and walked in and out just like last time. Maybe it's a Friday Saturday type place. They had some fat girls which is usually my turn around moment, HK and Adelitas may have some ugly girls but they don't really have any fat ones. I'm going to finish some MTV video awards and then hit HK again. This girl pounces on me and watches me like a hawk, it's like I have a GF only while I'm at HK which is the worst time to have one. She literally denies all guys who want to buy her a drink or go upstairs with her, today the bartender was trying to tell her she shouldn't do that but she wasn't hearing it. So she does that just to stay around me but then she doesn't call or text me at all, the girls are so screwed up mentally down here. I'm going to take a mongering break after this trip but I'm going to take spanish classes to increase my spanish. I saw too much ugly dudes with super beautiful girlfriends down here, I think it would be a whole lot easier to pull tail with close to fluent abilities. Unfortunately I didn't have one stellar experience in two weeks, now I monger often so I suppose the more times I do it the less one will stand out. I had one stand out in Philippines last month and I'm not even attracted to Asian girls but she made me want to just screw screw screw, but not enough to go back the next night for seconds. I'm thinking about next time building a Tijuana website, photographing and breaking down price wise all mongering places in Tijuana, no chit chat just plain hard facts for newbies. I walked around taking photos during the day a lot and that's when I came up with the idea, time will tell I guess.
MadisonGuy
08-29-11, 07:37
So this post should be in two different sections so I thought I'd throw it up here. Was at HK tonight and I was having a hard time picking a girl finally I saw a girl who I thought I could make work for me, she was either really stupid or coked up because she couldn't get through her head that she can't talk fast or ghetto because I can't understand it but that didn't really matter for what I wanted to do with her. I thought about taking her and another girl and I think she knew that so maybe that is party where the problem came but anyway I gave her some dollars to try to get some lesbian action going and decided to just take her up to the hotel. Every girl in HK has either told me 80 or 60 and the most I have paid is 70. Anyway we get up to the room and she still hasn't gotten wise enough to slow down her speach and it sounded like she said she needed money up front so I was like how much, and she said cien. It's hard to mistaken that so I was like huh? I told her no way 60, and she said no way and then it became a I'm not doing it for 100 and I'm not doing it for 60 type stand off. So I just said fuck it I'm out, the hotel was fairly cool about giving me the 15 back. I had an idea of who I wanted to grab instead of her because I saw a girl as we were walking to hotel that looked just like a girl on Nickelodean who is super hot but I couldn't find her when I went back. I was kind of pissed so I thought maybe I should just throw the towel in for the night. Walking out of the zona a girl managed to stop me which pretty much happened once, I wasn't that attracted to her but she had this I'm going to please you smile that I haven't seen on a SG. Anyway she was not even a spinner, she was a spinners 18 year old daughter. Ha ha. On the way up to the hotel I told her look I'm not horny and I don't really want this and she was like no problem. She smiled more than any girl I have ever had it's like she had an instant crush on me. Surprisingly she got me hard, a little BBBJ barely worth calling it that and some freedom in the sack atleast more than most SG. I like it kind of rough and she wasn't coming anywhere near that. Anyway this was the shittiest SG hotel I have been in, no towels, no soap, yuck reason why I don't like doing them. So I finish and the girls walking me out and she's like aren't you going to ask for my number? I was like huh? It honestly hadn't crossed my mind because there wasn't enough attraction to do her more than once but I told her I forgot. She was like in the future I can come to your hotel whenever you want me. I wish they were all that eager to come to my hotel, I love Tijuana in a way it's my favorite mongering spot but the one thing I hate, hate, hate about it is screwing is those cheap nasty hotels. None of them are remotely where I would want to have sex with someone, certainly I wouldn't need porn for screwing a girl for the first time like in HK. My girl turned that shit on last week and I was like damn that's one way to make me stay limp, I've watched so much damn porn it's similar to watching sesame street when it comes to making me horny. Just checked border wait times and it says 30min, there better not be a wait tomorrow night otherwise leaving at 1am will really just be a pain in the ass worthless decision. I just don't know who I'm going to screw for my last day, my adelitas girl who emails me and tells me she tried to get to my room in Rosarito but the receptionists weren't having it. Sure. Or try to wait and find that Nickelodean girl at HK. I'm thinking HK, I saw that chick on MTV VMAs right before I went there so I think it's destiny I just need to find her now.
So next thing, is anyone else wondering how hard it is to make a decent MP? Fuck I would love to go to MPs more often but I feel like such a fucking prick when I see the line up and then walk out, I am a prick but I don't like to look like one. How hard is it to have a 1 way mirror? Or just have a small bar where the girls have to stay out so you can see them all while you have a beer. Now when the MPs are like come check out the girls I tell them when they have them lined up outside I will pick one otherwise waste someone elses time. Except for Maria Bonita when they try to get me in there I tell them I will be there the second their manager will be the girl to fuck me. Damn she is hot, who would want to pick some fat mediocre chick when she's doing the line up. Supposedly she used to work but I think it's important to get in the trenches when you are managing once in awhile to show the workers you can still do it and I really want to get in her trench.
Got a rare opportunity to get down on a Saturday, so, I did.
Effing CBP still hasn't come across with my SENTRI yet. They said a week to 10 days after the interview. Guess not.
First time at Ticuan. I got an Empreseria (SP?) room. Just a bigger room, but rather sparsely furnished. So, probably not worth the extra money. I think either go big and the the top of the line, or go with the doble. I will say it's really, really nice to have a high-pressure shower with lots of hot water. Much nicer than those dumps in LZN.
However, I will NEVER, EVER, get room 523 again. Or 623 or 723. Fucking pipes in the walls, at the top of the bed, start to knock and vibrate and make a hell of a racket at about 6:00 am. And again about 9. Every fucking morning. I complained at the front desk, at checkout, and one of the ladies said, yes, each of those rooms, every morning. You think they might have mentioned this when I checked in.
Had a late lunch in the little rabbit warren of loncherias just north of the church on NH, west side of the street. Place reminds me of all the little restaurant clusters in Asia, all trying to drag you into their establishment. Had some reasonably good chicken mole.
Had a good, but unremarkable, couple of sessions with a semi-fave. I wasn't going to go for pop #2, but one thing led to another.
So, started to wander around LZN about 10-ish, with money but no leche.
One lap through CC, nothing going on, took a leak and left.
Adelita was a sauna bath / sausage fest all rolled into one. A couple of laps was all I could stand of that place.
I wasn't about to darken the door of HK after reading about the pool, so I avoided it.
After a jaunt down the alley I popped into my new favorite place. Playboy. This place has always been rather fun. You can get an appreciation for the Mexican chica's form in all its variations. They had a chunky one, or two, some knockout flacas, and a huge waitress. Poor girl must tip the scales around 300lbs. But she has a huuge smile and an unbelievably bubbly personality. She kept flirting with me until I bought her a drink. She was surprised and pleased. Then she proceeded to try to convince me to go to the hotel with her skinny friend, her, or both. She promised good sex from her friend, and a tit massage with her giant tits. Well, I passed. But she was a lot of fun. If there are any chubby chasers here, you could do worse.
I was trying to watch the strip show and fend off the meseros (a bunch of nice guys, BTW) bringing girls. Suddenly, a cute, morena, spinner type poked me from behind and gave me a killer smile. Name is Divina. I'm sure that's on her birth certificate. I bought her a drink, and then the party started. After a couple, we adjourned to the back corner. She made me break my 2 ficha rule. But it was worth it, IMHO. From the time the first drink showed up, to the time I called enough after the 5th ficha, she didn't stop. Great lap dance, bump and grind, grope, you name it. Except they may have a no nudity off the stage policy. Because no bare tits in the booth. Other than that, it was a lot of fun. I plowed through 4 2x1 beers during the festivities. I forget, but I think it was about 1. 5 hours of non stop merriment. And what a cutie. Shortish dark hair, smooth skin, ass to die for, very practiced way of biting her lower lip and looking very passionate. Lot of fun.
Oh, BTW, they have an interesting policy. You buy, all at once. 5 lady drinks. 5 x 85 pesos = 425 pesos. For this princely sum, you get the lady of your choice. 1 condom, and a room next door for 1 hour (or 45 minutes, not sure. One lady said an hour, I thought a waiter said 45 minutes, but maybe he meant $45. It was noisy). So, had I any leche I could report on Divina's horizontal mambo skills. Next visit.
After staggering out and wandering around. I popped into CC again. Lesbo shaving cream show. Went to the can. On the way out, they had some dude on stage, the mesero was squirting shaving cream all over him and the 2 girls, they were trying to get his pants off, but he maintained his dignity (or as much as he had left). I walked out, flirted with a chica at the corner of the bar near the exit, turned around and some fat f*ck was bare-ass nekkid on the stage with the girls. Man, there are some things you just do not want to see. OMG!
Then I popped into TB. I like their new addition, but nothing there of any interest.
Went over to New York. Somebody spent a lot of $ on the remodel, but they forgot to hire any ladies. There were a handful of really average chicas.
Then popped over to D&G. Where I promptly met the love of my life. I was about tapped, half-drunk. I sat to watch the show and drink a soda water. A fine young thing scooted over next to me and introduced herself. Mmmmm. Cute face, dyed blonde hair (ick!) , rather tall, smooth legs, white skin, perfect teeth. What's not to like. Said her name was Amy de Culiacan. Lied about her age, finally 'fessed up to being 29.
I bought her a drink ($9!) and began the chit-chat. Wow. She's a cuddler and kisser. And what a kisser. Holy sh*t. If I wasn't committed to a half-dozen Thai civvies, I think I'd marry this one and take her away! Well, that may be an overstatement, but. .
Anyway, just for research purposes. Seems D&G are trying to put on the dog a bit. $9 fichas, a TLN salida is about $220, or so Amy thinks but isn't positive. Rates are standard $60 for ladies, and a whopping $20 for the room. WTF? Maybe that explains the relative scarcity of clientele.
So, figures. Just my luck. I meet Ms. Right and have no money and no leche. Damn! I did get her digits, and she made me promise I would take her dancing on her day off, next visit. So, we'll see.
The line on Sunday, at 11:15 was all the way to the end, but just under an hour to get through. So, not as bad as it looked.
The more I read, the more I think I booked my 3 day vacation for the wrong dates, but what the hell. It's done.
I'll arrive in Tijuana on 9/4 and fly out of San Diego on 9/7 at 9:40am.
I'm planning to stay in Tijuana. I like the bargain prices of Hotel Nelson, but I wonder if those prices will be valid on 9/5 (US Labor Day). I am certainly able to negotiate, so I'll do my best.
I'm also looking at the Hotel Hacienda de Santiago. Or possibly using my VIP card to get a reduced rate room at Cascadas for 3 nights.
Here are some downsides I anticipate. I've been reading that there is no air conditioning. According to the forecast, the temp won't get above 80F, but maybe the hotels are sweltering with humidity? If that's the case, then I won't be able to sleep, making any of these places a waste of money. The money I save versus staying at the Ticuan would be better spent on an air-conditioned room at the Ticuan.
My other concern is a security question. I do not plan to walk around the Zona with my passport in my pocket. But can I leave these things in my room? Also, what about my very nice cell phone and my netbook? I don't intend to carry these things around, but will they be safe in my room at Cascadas? Nelson? Santiago?
A Wikitravel article (http://wikitravel.org/en/Tijuana/Zona_Norte) discusses the question of security with this:
Do not assume anything left in your room will be there when you return.That's just before this list of hotels: Cascadas, Hotel Hacienda de Santiago, Plaza de Oro Hotel, Hotel London.
But the article goes on to say the following about the Hotel Jerez Suites and the Hotel Acapulco:
In both of these two the staff are trustworthy, and you can leave your things behind the counter when you check out, and pick them up hours later when ready to return to the border.I've not read much discussion on this board of any of these hotels, really, except for Cascadas. No mention of Nelson in the WikiTravel article.
If necessary, I can leave my cell phone and netbook home in the US, but I'd love to know my passport (and maybe my emergency cash or wallet) would be safe buried in my bag and left in my room.
Any thoughts?
The more I read, the more I think I booked my 3 day vacation for the wrong dates, but what the hell. It's done.
I'll arrive in Tijuana on 9/4 and fly out of San Diego on 9/7 at 9:40am.
I'm planning to stay in Tijuana. I like the bargain prices of Hotel Nelson, but I wonder if those prices will be valid on 9/5 (US Labor Day). I am certainly able to negotiate, so I'll do my best.
I'm also looking at the Hotel Hacienda de Santiago. Or possibly using my VIP card to get a reduced rate room at Cascadas for 3 nights.
Here are some downsides I anticipate. I've been reading that there is no air conditioning. According to the forecast, the temp won't get above 80F, but maybe the hotels are sweltering with humidity? If that's the case, then I won't be able to sleep, making any of these places a waste of money. The money I save versus staying at the Ticuan would be better spent on an air-conditioned room at the Ticuan.
My other concern is a security question. I do not plan to walk around the Zona with my passport in my pocket. But can I leave these things in my room? Also, what about my very nice cell phone and my netbook? I don't intend to carry these things around, but will they be safe in my room at Cascadas? Nelson? Santiago?
A Wikitravel article (
http://wikitravel.org/en/Tijuana/Zona_Norte
) discusses the question of security with this:
That's just before this list of hotels: Cascadas, Hotel Hacienda de Santiago, Plaza de Oro Hotel, Hotel London.
But the article goes on to say the following about the Hotel Jerez Suites and the Hotel Acapulco:
I've not read much discussion on this board of any of these hotels, really, except for Cascadas. No mention of Nelson in the WikiTravel article.
If necessary, I can leave my cell phone and netbook home in the US, but I'd love to know my passport (and maybe my emergency cash or wallet) would be safe buried in my bag and left in my room.
Any thoughts?If you have to bring your netbook, then stay at the Ticuan and use their in room safe. Otherwise, leave it at home if you don't have to have it.
Persoally, I wouldn't leave stuff in a place like Cascadas. Too much traffic. Nelson is probably OK. Also, Hotel Espana or Caesar's. They monitor the front desk at all times, and you can't get to any rooms without passing in front of the desk. So, the only danger is the cleaning staff, and I rarely worry about them.
But you MUST have your passport with you at all times. Like most countries, BTW. If you get jacked up by the cops, they will demand I'd and you'd better have it. Get a passport card. Anybody with a passport can get one, they are easy to carry. About the size of a credit card. Much better than carrying around the full PP.
SuperSteve
08-29-11, 18:52
IMO, if you are traveling with items you want to leave in your room, that are expensive, or important, the extra money for a safe at Ticuan would be well worth the money. I would imagine that American passports are worth quite a bit on the black market. I would suggest that if you do leave it in your room (which I wouldn't do) , be sure and have a copy made and carry with you in case it does get stolen, I think it would be much easier to get it replaced, or out of the country. It would only take one of your expensive items to be gone, and the money would not matter at that point. As for the phone, it may roam in Tijuana, or it may not work at all. If it roams you will pay a pretty penny for the calls to the USA You can buy a sim card and minutes if you have an unlocked phone. You may also want to look at Hotel Espana, or Caesar's on Ave. Revo, between calle 3 & 4. While I have never had anything stolen from rooms in Tijuana, I don't travel with anything other than a cell phone that I use as an MP3 player.
I was in Tijuana on Saturday; while I don't partake of the SG's it was nice to see an increase in the numbers. It is always nice to take a walk through the "sprinklers" (for the sound they make to attract you).
The pool was out of HK by Saturday evening when I got there. It was a typical sausage fest, although many hot ladies, with some new talent.
Adelita's was Adelita's; some very hot women, some not so hot, but all trolling for business.
Tropical was good again. Many fine looking women, and stage shows instead of dancing. The music was even better due to the women dancing to American rock.
Las Chavelas was crowded, but the talent level was down.
La Malquerida (sp?) was crowded, but I didn't see even one I would consider.
Chicago Club was busier than usual. Phordphan, you mean you didn't like my amigo, Spanky, becoming involved in the shaving cream show. LOL Let's just say that Spanky is unique. I have traveled with him to four different countries, and it is always a good time. While there were more women in the club than usual (which isn't hard) , the talent level was not any different. There is usually 3-4 VGL women in there. I think they try harder since it is so slow, they want to bring you back. They also are giving out coupons for a free drink, so it is two for one. It didn't seem like there was a limit on the number of coupons that you could use, but then again, I know one of the Mesera's pretty well.
All-in-all there were some very hot ladies in and around the Zona. It was good to see the SG's out in more numbers for those of you who like that scene.
Health & happiness to all.
Chicago Club was busier than usual. Phordphan, you mean you didn't like my amigo, Spanky, becoming involved in the shaving cream show. LOL Let's just say that Spanky is unique. I have traveled with him to four different countries, and it is always a good time. While there were more women in the club than usual (which isn't hard) , the talent level was not any different. There is usually 3-4 VGL women in there. I think they try harder since it is so slow, they want to bring you back. They also are giving out coupons for a free drink, so it is two for one. It didn't seem like there was a limit on the number of coupons that you could use, but then again, I know one of the Mesera's pretty well.Well, let's just say that some sights are best unseen and left to the imagination. . :)
But I wonder, after you roll around nude in the shaving cream, how do you clean up? You can't just get dressed. Enquiring minds, and all that.
I agree about the 3 or 4 VGL ladies at any given time in CC. The one in the red dress, slightly Asian features, that I was flirting with certainly fits the bill. Under other circumstances we would have gone arriba. Unfortunately, managing 3 pops in a day is not as easy as it used to be. Coupled with a lack of sleep and no vitamin V, it was best to just pass.
I had not thought of getting a Passport Card. Of course, to get one by the end of this week would certainly be impossible.
My plan was not to carry my Passport with me, but instead slip a photocopy in my pocket, along with my Drivers License. Takes up less space in my pocket. Wouldn't that be sufficient for most policias?
Finally, a question I forgot to ask in my last post. I know Ticuan is ok with you bringing a girl back to your room. How are the other places like Nelson or Santiago? Am I right that Nelson and Santiago are both okay with chicas?
I was thinking Santiago would be a good deal because most of the rooms have kitchenettes (nice to keep a few bebidas in the refri). Also, less noise. Then again, Nelson is running a special. Tough choice.
Of course, my real Passport I would keep buried in my bag back in my room for when I have to cross back early, early on Wednesday morning.
Big John 1
08-30-11, 00:04
Please refer to my post in catagory entitled"Living in Mexico."
Big John 1
08-30-11, 00:09
Living in Rosarito at least month, can somebody recommend capable, fairly cheap Tijuana dentist, some of the work needed a bit complex, just need competent, English speaking unimportant as I speak Spanish quite well. Gracias por su ayuda, guys. Big John
Big John 1
08-30-11, 00:12
I had not thought of getting a Passport Card. Of course, to get one by the end of this week would certainly be impossible.
My plan was not to carry my Passport with me, but instead slip a photocopy in my pocket, along with my Drivers License. Takes up less space in my pocket. Wouldn't that be sufficient for most policias?
Finally, a question I forgot to ask in my last post. I know Ticuan is ok with you bringing a girl back to your room. How are the other places like Nelson or Santiago? Am I right that Nelson and Santiago are both okay with chicas?
I was thinking Santiago would be a good deal because most of the rooms have kitchenettes (nice to keep a few bebidas in the refri). Also, less noise. Then again, Nelson is running a special. Tough choice.Did not do it but saw it done was there last week, yes rooms only 250p Monday to Thursday at Nelson, never been to Santiago, don't know
MadisonGuy
08-30-11, 00:24
I had not thought of getting a Passport Card. Of course, to get one by the end of this week would certainly be impossible.
My plan was not to carry my Passport with me, but instead slip a photocopy in my pocket, along with my Drivers License. Takes up less space in my pocket. Wouldn't that be sufficient for most policias?
Finally, a question I forgot to ask in my last post. I know Ticuan is ok with you bringing a girl back to your room. How are the other places like Nelson or Santiago? Am I right that Nelson and Santiago are both okay with chicas?
I was thinking Santiago would be a good deal because most of the rooms have kitchenettes (nice to keep a few bebidas in the refri). Also, less noise. Then again, Nelson is running a special. Tough choice.I think you are over thinking it all but I did the same thing on my first trip here. Stay at Ticuan and don't worry about anything. I leave out a brand new laptop, $2500 camera, ipod and other various things every single day. I use the safe for my passport and money. I used to always carry a copy of my passport in other countries but I even stopped doing that lately. They ask locals for IDs here but I have never seen a foreigner that has been asked for their I'd, and a drivers license would suffice. I went to las pulgas with a local guy here who got deported and spoke perfect english, he was straight out of an LA gang and we had to play a little show for the cops to let us in there. I told him when they asked for his I'd just look at me and talk only english and get pissed that I told you to leave your I'd in the hotel in Rosarito. The cop looked at the bouncer and said they're good let them in. Another story for security at Ticuan, I always put a tip on top of a paper that said propina, when I left to Rosarito I couldn't find my magic jack after an hour of looking around I was like the maids had to have thought it was part of the phone or something, I didn't think for a second they took it. Talked to front desk and technically they did take it because it was on the paper that said propina and I guess I just assumed they would know the difference, they brought it back the next day though. Honestly Ticuan is probably my most favorite hotel I've stayed at, I've stayed at Four Season, Ritz Carlton. But at the end of the day I feel ripped off for getting charged so much for sleeping. Ticuan is incredibly clean and the staff are very very friendly and helpful. Try to stay on the side away from Las Pulgas though as you can have problem with noise which I think you will experience more at the other hotels you are talking about. It's $3 from ticuan to Zona Norte but I love the walk, although annoying at times. All hotels are chica friendly, keep in mind it is extremely unusual to bring a girl to your hotel. I have been here for exactly 2 weeks and have only brought 3 girls. 2 of which were from escort sites and the other I pulled out of Adelitas but it's costly. HK is even more so, they told me it's 30 ficha or $210 which I got them down a little but add the price of the girl 200-400 and it's not even worth considering IMO. I would just enjoy your trip and try not to worry so much, I wish I hadn't been so concerned about what I was eating, drinking, showing money, the list goes on and on, now I just relax and enjoy myself. Just don't follow anyone around, if a guy wants to take you somewhere it's never a good thing, you can explore on your own it is much safer than you would think in Tijuana. There's lots of people on the street at all hours, enjoy your trip! $%$%Hotel Ticuan%$% that was a subliminal message by the way. Ha ha
Baxter Slade
08-30-11, 00:33
Alot of good reports on here lately, so of course I'am getting the itch to return. I have been inspired by Madisonguy and his Monger dream vacation, however I think I will only be able to get away for a 3 day 2 night trip. Which will be a huge step up for me since I would never spend more than a few hours in Tijuana in the old days.
Thanks to Phordphan for that valueable info on rooms 523, 623, and 723 I will make sure I don't get one of those. I also will put Playboy and D&G on my to do list. The only problem D&G doesn't ring a bell so any info on where that is would be appreciated.
And Guitar that texting thing adds an interesting dimension if you are trying to build some kind of relationship with a chica. It makes it very easy to communicate and overcome the language barrier, if you have the right translation ap. However trying to figure out the women on the other end of the text is a whole other issue. Sometimes the texts will roll in like crazy and then disapear for awhile. And then you wonder is it the cost of the text she is trying to avoid or did her husband come back from the USA because he couldn't find any work or maybe she dosen't love me anymore. But of course we all know that getting involved with a working girl is a NO NO anyway no matter how fun it is.
MadisonGuy
08-30-11, 01:25
Alot of good reports on here lately, so of course I'am getting the itch to return. I have been inspired by Madisonguy and his Monger dream vacation, however I think I will only be able to get away for a 3 day 2 night trip. Which will be a huge step up for me since I would never spend more than a few hours in Tijuana in the old days.
Thanks to Phordphan for that valueable info on rooms 523, 623, and 723 I will make sure I don't get one of those. I also will put Playboy and D&G on my to do list. The only problem D&G doesn't ring a bell so any info on where that is would be appreciated.
And Guitar that texting thing adds an interesting dimension if you are trying to build some kind of relationship with a chica. It makes it very easy to communicate and overcome the language barrier, if you have the right translation ap. However trying to figure out the women on the other end of the text is a whole other issue. Sometimes the texts will roll in like crazy and then disapear for awhile. And then you wonder is it the cost of the text she is trying to avoid or did her husband come back from the USA because he couldn't find any work or maybe she dosen't love me anymore. But of course we all know that getting involved with a working girl is a NO NO anyway no matter how fun it is.You can't spend enough time here. The one thing I would've like to try is go to some of the bars in Zona Rio, maybe get some semi english speaking middle class girls. Las Pulgas is pretty ghetto-lower class for the area and if I went to a bar in the US trying to pick up a ghetto girl she'd be like get your dorky ass out of here. I saw a guy in my hotel who I would guess to be 50ish and he had a really beautiful mid 30s girl that was obviously a girlfriend from here with him, but she was a little more polished around the edges. Unfortunately that isn't my type but fighting the language barrier is going to be a hard thing. Although I found some late intel about the girl who I thought vanished even though she seemed really into me, I guess she went to the bathroom like she said and I was stupid enough to listen to my buddy who said they left. What a good buddy it is in that the second I left he said he saw the girls but yet I didn't get a text or call about it, so he spent the whole night dancing with all of them. Maybe I would've had my hook up with that girl, unfortunately I can not party til 5AM like the people here often do. At around 1-2 my taco mongering comes and after that my sleep mongering. Counting down the hours now, I enjoy seeing 5 minutes wait times all day long at the border. I should breeze right through tonight and then hopefully get some sleep at the airport.
Joe Arturo
08-30-11, 04:45
Finally, a question I forgot to ask in my last post. I know Ticuan is ok with you bringing a girl back to your room. How are the other places like Nelson or Santiago? Am I right that Nelson and Santiago are both okay with chicas?
I was thinking Santiago would be a good deal because most of the rooms have kitchenettes (nice to keep a few bebidas in the refri). Also, less noise. Then again, Nelson is running a special. Tough choice.Santiago is the place that I stay when I am in Tijuana. They have ample parking and your car is watched very carefully. There is no problem bringing chicas to your rooom and the kitchenette is great for keeping your drinks cold. In the winter when it is cold in the room, I light 4 burners of the stove for 10 minutes and the room is toasty comfortable. The only problem is that it does not have wifi for the internet, but I have a smart phone and it gets a Verizon signal from the United States. So I use this for internet access.
I have taken many, many chicas to the Santiago with absolutely no problem. And it is close enough to walk to anywhere that you want. I highly recommend it.
MadisonGuy
08-30-11, 05:01
So my last night kind of ended how I expected, what would have been for an interesting adventure any other night couldn't happen because of time. I went to HK and had my eyes on some girls there, one I was told doesn't go upstairs which is the first I have heard that but I asked and she said no so atleast I saved myself a ficha, I'm sure she will break down eventually you don't go to HK to be a gogo dancer. Anyway saw another girl and she was staring at me hard, I figured it's because I'm just a stud but I guess I was wrong. I'm so picky with my type of girl that I screwed her a year ago at New Body and she remembered, I totally did when she told me that and I was super happy because I really wanted to screw her again she was awesome her name is Sindy. So anyway we're talking and I'm like I want to go upstairs and she's like 100 which was high for me so I said 60 and she said ok at my house tomorrow and I'm like huh? (side note I remembered her english being good last time, I guess that goes for every girl I have screwed here) Anyway I said ok 100 here and she like ok 100 at my house now, so I guess I didn't understand that she needed to go home for her son at first but then Igot it, she told me she lives 40 minutes away and I was like shit I can't do that it's my last night otherwise I would've jumped on that. I know she had an american boyfriend before so I know she's that type. I kind of knew going out something like that would happen on my last night, could've been worse I could've fallen in love with a girl I met shopping or something. Anyway so I had to say goodbye and made the rounds and picked up a street girl. Pulled one that looked like she had huge tits but she was doing the asian fake out, damn those bras work well. I love the idea of the SG but I think I'm going to have to throw in the towel because I just can't get my cock to agree with common sense. So we get in the room and obviously I'm as limp as a licorce stick and her idea is to throw the condom on and start sucking like all the other SGs think, someone needs to teach them that it is flow of blood that makes a boner and a condom works against that. Anyway she starts to play away but is doing a horrible job and is grabbing it like she's mixing shit for dinner so I tell hre I will take over and she moves to the balls. My nuts still hurt, I got to imagine she has screwed a ton of guys and maybe it's he norm that guys like their nuts squeezed hard but I can't imagine that to be the case, so again I have to tell a pro what to do. Finally after what seems an hour. 5 minutes in I want to fuck time, she got it up and we got to it. Normally I would atleast put some effort to last longer to maximize my dollar spent but not today she rode me for like a minute than I fucked her missionary for a minute and it was over. I was actually happier ending sooner because it gave me more time to do other stuff, when that happens you know that your mongering trip has lasted too long, not to mention I started looking at big tittied playboy types that are way more like my wife than my actual type which means I have more than fulfilled my itch. Unless one of the receptionists show up at my room to. Send me off, or I get hassled on way to border somewhere this should be my last legit report.
Guitarrefreak
08-30-11, 06:56
Yeah good point about not getting involved w / WGs, my ship "sank" so to speak, a few times getting involved with WGs, be it sauna, foot massage, anything. Anyway that is history.
Regarding the ones I am dealing with Tijuana right now. I don't know, maybe I am just sick with work, sick with life, that I want to play with a little fire, not sure, don't we run into something like this every once in a while? And what it really takes is some bro with his senses to pull you right back just before you are at the point of no return. Anyway I am dramatizing it.
We will see, I will keep you guys posted, so you can continue to talk senses into me while I am pushing this to the edge. .
Alot of good reports on here lately, so of course I'am getting the itch to return. I have been inspired by Madisonguy and his Monger dream vacation, however I think I will only be able to get away for a 3 day 2 night trip. Which will be a huge step up for me since I would never spend more than a few hours in Tijuana in the old days.
Thanks to Phordphan for that valueable info on rooms 523, 623, and 723 I will make sure I don't get one of those. I also will put Playboy and D&G on my to do list. The only problem D&G doesn't ring a bell so any info on where that is would be appreciated.
And Guitar that texting thing adds an interesting dimension if you are trying to build some kind of relationship with a chica. It makes it very easy to communicate and overcome the language barrier, if you have the right translation ap. However trying to figure out the women on the other end of the text is a whole other issue. Sometimes the texts will roll in like crazy and then disapear for awhile. And then you wonder is it the cost of the text she is trying to avoid or did her husband come back from the USA because he couldn't find any work or maybe she dosen't love me anymore. But of course we all know that getting involved with a working girl is a NO NO anyway no matter how fun it is.
Guitarrefreak
08-30-11, 06:57
A haha, taco / sleep mongering. Good one. And the price is more affordable too!
You can't spend enough time here. The one thing I would've like to try is go to some of the bars in Zona Rio, maybe get some semi english speaking middle class girls. Las Pulgas is pretty ghetto-lower class for the area and if I went to a bar in the US trying to pick up a ghetto girl she'd be like get your dorky ass out of here. I saw a guy in my hotel who I would guess to be 50ish and he had a really beautiful mid 30s girl that was obviously a girlfriend from here with him, but she was a little more polished around the edges. Unfortunately that isn't my type but fighting the language barrier is going to be a hard thing. Although I found some late intel about the girl who I thought vanished even though she seemed really into me, I guess she went to the bathroom like she said and I was stupid enough to listen to my buddy who said they left. What a good buddy it is in that the second I left he said he saw the girls but yet I didn't get a text or call about it, so he spent the whole night dancing with all of them. Maybe I would've had my hook up with that girl, unfortunately I can not party til 5AM like the people here often do. At around 1-2 my taco mongering comes and after that my sleep mongering. Counting down the hours now, I enjoy seeing 5 minutes wait times all day long at the border. I should breeze right through tonight and then hopefully get some sleep at the airport.
Guitarrefreak
08-30-11, 08:32
My mermaids ATF has yet to set up a date for us to have a date but my amnesia ATF#1 has sent me a txt mensajes that really challenges my very (very very) limited espanol.
Can someone help me translate
"si? Que haces? Te echo de menos" <- I think this just means she misses me?
And.
"podemos ir a comer el viernes" <- I am not sure if this means she wants to have a meal together on Friday, but I don't know if it implies lunch or dinner.
Google translate aint helping here.
@Maddude.
Thanks for all the reporting.
One bit of advice. Get the enter key on your computer fixed. Then use it, live it, love it! It'll make your posts much more readable. It's hard to wade through one giant run-on paragraph.
@Mojo.
I've used a photocopy of my passport in Thailand, and other countries. But I've been jacked up by cops a few times over the years in Mexico. They wanted I'd, and I seriously doubt a photocopy would have satisfied them. Maybe, but it also may result in some unnecessary contributions to their retirement fund. So, it just depends on how much risk you're willing to accept. These days the odds are in your favor, because they don't seem to be jacking up tourists like they used to.
One tip, if your pants will permit, put the PP in a front pocket. It's not terribly uncomfortable, and it's much more difficult to pick something out of a front pocket.
And let me second the other posters. About the only way to get a chica into your hotel is to use an escort, or have a favorita who will meet you. The ridiculous salida fees make that option less than desirable (which is the whole point) , and waiting until their shift is over at 5am is silly. Hooking up with a day-shift chica, after work, is more do-able, but unless she's someone you have sessioned with a few times, she'll be reluctant to do that. And few SGs will go anywhere outside their comfort zone. There are a few, but very few.
So, don't worry about being chica friendly. SEA this ain't.
MadisonGuy
08-30-11, 13:50
My mermaids ATF has yet to set up a date for us to have a date but my amnesia ATF#1 has sent me a txt mensajes that really challenges my very (very very) limited espanol.
Can someone help me translate
"si? Que haces? Te echo de menos" <- I think this just means she misses me?
And.
"podemos ir a comer el viernes" <- I am not sure if this means she wants to have a meal together on Friday, but I don't know if it implies lunch or dinner.
Google translate aint helping here.I get yes? What do you want to do? Echo might be slang I'm not really sure what that means, something about you doing something less, translators don't work great with a lot of these girls because they barely know how to spell themselves, I mean try translatting something in ebonics, it doesn't work well. You're right about the last part. Little translators might help I think you can pick them up for like $15-20, but don't type more than 1 word at a time that is part of google translator problem, you have to use the big words and piece the rest together. I've tried translatting large letters and it didn't work that great generally I just pull the words I know and guess at all the connectors. There's lots of cool english speaking guys in Tijuana I would buddy up with one and use him as a free translator / double date. I'm going to finally take a spanish class since I'm kind of getting sick of not knowing some very common terms but yet knowing shit that is almost useless.
My mermaids ATF has yet to set up a date for us to have a date but my amnesia ATF#1 has sent me a txt mensajes that really challenges my very (very very) limited espanol.
Can someone help me translate
"si? Que haces? Te echo de menos" <- I think this just means she misses me?
And.
"podemos ir a comer el viernes" <- I am not sure if this means she wants to have a meal together on Friday, but I don't know if it implies lunch or dinner.
Google translate aint helping here.The first is "what are you doing?" and pretty much she misses you, but it sure looks like an odd way of saying it. Te hecho de menos is literally something like I make less with you. I'm not a native speaker, but maybe this is slang. Spanish idioms can be really tough and the online translators suck when it comes to idioms.
The second is can we eat together on Friday. Most likely lunch. Comer just means to eat, but it can also mean lunch. Depends on context, and with these chicas' ghetto spanish, you never know.
Guitarrefreak
08-30-11, 17:04
What it just means to me is. Fuck yeaaaa.
At least this chica, her spelling is ok, there is another one that I have exchanged txts with, holy shit she really cannot spell, lots of double letters here and there, and she tells me she likes poetry.) #) @
This one I know she uses alot of regional slangs, it is kind of cute in its own way.
Baxter Slade
08-30-11, 18:05
Yeah good point about not getting involved w / WGs, my ship "sank" so to speak, a few times getting involved with WGs, be it sauna, foot massage, anything. Anyway that is history.
Regarding the ones I am dealing with Tijuana right now. I don't know, maybe I am just sick with work, sick with life, that I want to play with a little fire, not sure, don't we run into something like this every once in a while? And what it really takes is some bro with his senses to pull you right back just before you are at the point of no return. Anyway I am dramatizing it.
We will see, I will keep you guys posted, so you can continue to talk senses into me while I am pushing this to the edge. .Actually my point was texting is a great way to get involved and build some kind of relationship with a chica if thats what you want. In my case I have made many trips to Tijuana for the sex, I may have gotten bored with that and needed that extra something. So when you do come across that chica with a personality, and you just enjoy being around her go for it. Seeing the human side of these girls can be very enjoyable. I often relive the morning when I was with my ATF just laying in bed and she wanted to show me she could count to 100 in english, it was priceless (but then again I'am easily amused).
Now as far as the NO NO that was just saying remember these girls have alot of drama in there life and just be careful about how attached you become. They have been known to abruptly disapear or run off and leave you hanging. But with Tijuana at your fingertips, it is a good place to go on a PUSSY RAMPAGE and drown your sorrows.
MadisonGuy
08-30-11, 21:01
Actually my point was texting is a great way to get involved and build some kind of relationship with a chica if thats what you want. In my case I have made many trips to Tijuana for the sex, I may have gotten bored with that and needed that extra something. So when you do come across that chica with a personality, and you just enjoy being around her go for it. Seeing the human side of these girls can be very enjoyable. I often relive the morning when I was with my ATF just laying in bed and she wanted to show me she could count to 100 in english, it was priceless (but then again I'am easily amused).
Now as far as the NO NO that was just saying remember these girls have alot of drama in there life and just be careful about how attached you become. They have been known to abruptly disapear or run off and leave you hanging. But with Tijuana at your fingertips, it is a good place to go on a PUSSY RAMPAGE and drown your sorrows.They need a like button similar to facebook. Imagining a seniorita in bed counting to 100 in english would amuse me also.
Semi-newbie question: I'm wondering, with the exchange rate going up again, is it worth it to use pesos now? Can I say. 600 pesos for arriba? Just curious. Thanks.
Semi-newbie question: I'm wondering, with the exchange rate going up again, is it worth it to use pesos now? Can I say. 600 pesos for arriba? Just curious. Thanks.I would say yes but nothing extreme. Sometimes places like supermarkets will give you a higher rate if you pay in dollars. Have both. Pesos for chicas and misc. Purchases. US dollars in small denominations are best for the bars. That way they can't rip you off. Bring singles fives and 10's.
Semi-newbie question: I'm wondering, with the exchange rate going up again, is it worth it to use pesos now? Can I say. 600 pesos for arriba? Just curious. Thanks.Of course it it. Always has been, at least as far as the girls are concerned. The clubs keep pretty close tabs on the exchange rate, so it's hard to get peso bargains there.
600 peso arribas are standard. Only rookie gringos use dollars for the chicas. :D :D :D
Oh, BTW, there is a bank on NH, west side, south of the church, maybe 2 blocks up. It's in the back of an appliance store but I can't remembe the name. Best exchange rates in town (12.0:1 on Saturday). But you MUST have a drivers license. Passport wouldn't fly. Had to have my date change $100 for me.
Guitarrefreak
08-31-11, 06:48
I can't really say if I am "wanting" any sort of relationship to be honest, but really just trying to see if I can "actually do it".
Do I think she is a nice girl? Yes.
Do I think she is a attractive girl? Fuck yea.
Do I think I can have a relationship with her? Not really, we are in a different world.
But somehow at the back of my mind, I just can't help but want to have the opportunity to savor the moment and and the glory, and maybe at the same time, tell myself that this girl actually probably enjoying spending a few hours with me than go to work, but maybe I am just kidding myself.
Speaking of which, I tried giving her a call today and she picked up and she sounded genuinely excited on the phone, despite the horrible conversation, I think she confirmed that we will eat together on Friday, still, I couldn't get a confirmation on where / when exactly it will be but I told her I will give her a call again on Thursday to confirm which Google translate says:
"yo te daré una llamada el jueves para confirmar" <- I am pretty confident in my pronunciation so I think she got that.
Can someone tell me if there is any slang term to say "3pm"? I think that is what she was trying to tell me but I just cannot seem to confirm so I text her with a Google translate asking when / where to meet.
Actually my point was texting is a great way to get involved and build some kind of relationship with a chica if thats what you want. In my case I have made many trips to Tijuana for the sex, I may have gotten bored with that and needed that extra something. So when you do come across that chica with a personality, and you just enjoy being around her go for it. Seeing the human side of these girls can be very enjoyable. I often relive the morning when I was with my ATF just laying in bed and she wanted to show me she could count to 100 in english, it was priceless (but then again I'am easily amused).
Now as far as the NO NO that was just saying remember these girls have alot of drama in there life and just be careful about how attached you become. They have been known to abruptly disapear or run off and leave you hanging. But with Tijuana at your fingertips, it is a good place to go on a PUSSY RAMPAGE and drown your sorrows.
Can someone tell me if there is any slang term to say "3pm"?You can tell her "a las tres de la tarde"
All this talk has got me itching real bad to head down this Saturday. I may at least go on down and spend an hour or 2 with my favorite SW or try to find one of these Monterrey girls I been haring about in HK as well as get some drinks and tacos.
MadisonGuy
08-31-11, 22:04
Guitar I wouldn't go with your gut on this one, your gut will steer you wrong. But years ago I kind of fell for a working girl, I mean I still went to massage parlors and stuff while she shopped or whatever, but still I liked her and spent the majority of my time in Costa Rica with her. I don't think there is a chance for it to work out, no matter how great you treat her and how much better you know her life will be with you it just won't change who she is. You obviously like latin girls, and fortunately for you if you're a 6 you are an 8 in the latin world, you get 2 extra points for being a gringo, maybe even a extra. 5 if you are light skinned. If I were you I would continue going to Tijuana, obviously you aren't going to stop, and I would find a local latin store and spend an hour there every week eating, shopping whatever that latin store happens to provide find a way to use it. Then if you see a girl you think is pretty ask her out, to help you learn spanish, go to a concert or whatever floats your boat. I have dated a lot of latin girls here in the US and they are way easier to start a date with, it might not go somewhere, but atleast your rejection rate will be lower. American girls are more stop you before it starts which kills the confidence a bit. I would suggest not thinking of this girl in Tijuana as anything more than a freebie, she will never be a friend or a girlfriend. Latin women are crazy, they just are and that's one thing we love about them, but add crazy infront of a hooker and it's just setting things up for disaster. You probably could meet a cool girl in Las Pulgas or Dubai also but it's way too much work crossing back and forth over the border so I would focus more locally then when you learn spanish I think Mexican ladies will be a very easy beast to tame. I usually can have a half assed conversation with a girl but that's not enough I'm breaking down and going to take Spanish classes, I'm around it all the time but it still doesn't help me learn fast enough.
I have a FWB who is Bi. We are going down to Tijuana this month. She will probably hook up on her own, but we will do at least one 3-way. Where is the best bang for the buck so to speak on finding chicks that really want to play with her. How about going rates? I know what I usually pay. 60-80 for club girls (HK, AB, CC etc.) and 20-25 for SGs in the alley.
What should I expect my friend to pay for girl on girl, and for a three-way session?
Thanks.
Guitarrefreak
09-01-11, 07:23
Maybe I am just looking for a chica who will make me listen to her count to 100 in English. .
Actually recently I am going to go to Asia for my business trip, I have a ATF who I met at a "sauna" who is preparing to take time off work to hang out with me. Blood is already boiling just thinking about that. But that shall be something for the Asia board.
On spending time in regular places in Tijuana, you know, if I could, I seriously would. First things first, is to try and get in touch with her again tomorrow to confirm the time (thanks Keg for the translation)
Guitar I wouldn't go with your gut on this one, your gut will steer you wrong. But years ago I kind of fell for a working girl, I mean I still went to massage parlors and stuff while she shopped or whatever, but still I liked her and spent the majority of my time in Costa Rica with her. I don't think there is a chance for it to work out, no matter how great you treat her and how much better you know her life will be with you it just won't change who she is. You obviously like latin girls, and fortunately for you if you're a 6 you are an 8 in the latin world, you get 2 extra points for being a gringo, maybe even a extra. 5 if you are light skinned. If I were you I would continue going to Tijuana, obviously you aren't going to stop, and I would find a local latin store and spend an hour there every week eating, shopping whatever that latin store happens to provide find a way to use it. Then if you see a girl you think is pretty ask her out, to help you learn spanish, go to a concert or whatever floats your boat. I have dated a lot of latin girls here in the US and they are way easier to start a date with, it might not go somewhere, but atleast your rejection rate will be lower. American girls are more stop you before it starts which kills the confidence a bit. I would suggest not thinking of this girl in Tijuana as anything more than a freebie, she will never be a friend or a girlfriend. Latin women are crazy, they just are and that's one thing we love about them, but add crazy infront of a hooker and it's just setting things up for disaster. You probably could meet a cool girl in Las Pulgas or Dubai also but it's way too much work crossing back and forth over the border so I would focus more locally then when you learn spanish I think Mexican ladies will be a very easy beast to tame. I usually can have a half assed conversation with a girl but that's not enough I'm breaking down and going to take Spanish classes, I'm around it all the time but it still doesn't help me learn fast enough.
Guitarrefreak
09-01-11, 07:24
All this talk has got me itching real bad to head down this Saturday. I may at least go on down and spend an hour or 2 with my favorite SW or try to find one of these Monterrey girls I been haring about in HK as well as get some drinks and tacos.Amen to that
Baxter Slade
09-01-11, 17:19
Ok so yesterday I'am down in Calexico working right next to the POE to Mexicali. And my ATF texts me, so I text back can you meet me in Mexicali tonight. She didn't even make some excuse why she couldn't come. Her text back was take care and kisses. So I get all pissed, and I'am like what a *****. I'am thinking I 'am going to have to find a new chica who can count to a thousand. Then I started thinking maybe that translation app I use screwed up. I put in "me puede responder esta noche en Mexicali" so if anyone can tell me what I actually said it would be appreciated. I did check google translate and it said something different.
Ok so yesterday I'am down in Calexico working right next to the POE to Mexicali. And my ATF texts me, so I text back can you meet me in Mexicali tonight. She didn't even make some excuse why she couldn't come. Her text back was take care and kisses. So I get all pissed, and I'am like what a *****. I'am thinking I 'am going to have to find a new chica who can count to a thousand. Then I started thinking maybe that translation app I use screwed up. I put in "me puede responder esta noche en Mexicali" so if anyone can tell me what I actually said it would be appreciated. I did check google translate and it said something different.Respond to me tonight, in Mexicali.
Maybe she thinks you're batshit crazy? Ha ha ha. :D :D
Try something like Por favor, encontrarme en Mexicali, esta noche.
Or encuentreme (accent over the second e. Don't have a Spanish keyboard) might be a bit more correct.
Either way, she'll get the point.
Big John 1
09-02-11, 00:55
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This stuff works most Farmacia Similaries have it 219 pesos for 4 100 milligram pills roughly $4. 50 per pill stuff works great bought in Similiares Rosarito most have in Tijuana, national chain in Mexico, works great I am 67, no mail order hassles, druggist says hard to keep in stock! Enjoy! Since they are a National chain would trust poduct consistent.They sell good stuff. I brought back 6 bags of their eucalyptus lollipops. They work way better than halls and are a lot cheaper.
Guitarrefreak
09-02-11, 08:06
My ATF #1 sent me a message for lunch tomorrow. Looks like she likes pizza. To go or not to go.
Maybe I am just looking for a chica who will make me listen to her count to 100 in English. .
Actually recently I am going to go to Asia for my business trip, I have a ATF who I met at a "sauna" who is preparing to take time off work to hang out with me. Blood is already boiling just thinking about that. But that shall be something for the Asia board.
On spending time in regular places in Tijuana, you know, if I could, I seriously would. First things first, is to try and get in touch with her again tomorrow to confirm the time (thanks Keg for the translation)
Can someone help me translate
"si? Que haces? Te echo de menos" <- I think this just means she misses me?
And.
"podemos ir a comer el viernes" <- I am not sure if this means she wants to have a meal together on Friday, but I don't know if it implies lunch or dinner.
Google translate aint helping here.A little late on the translation but I'd like to help. I'm usually on the Colombian Forum but I'm planning a long awaited trip to Tijuana so I've been following the posts for some time now. The first question / pregunta "Que haces".What are you doing? The second statement "Te echo de menos" is more of a statement used in Spain or Castellano. In Colombia they would say "Me haces falta" or "Me haces mucha falta" or "Te extrano". All meaning the same of course "I miss you." The last question is pretty obvious "Podemos ir a comer el viernes?".Do you want to go out and eat on Friday? It's irrelevant what meal, could be anytime, lunch or dinner. She's leaving it up to you as they all do in their machista, man pays for everything society. It's up to you to be creative o romantic or whatever. Bottom line, she's free, she's down, you have her attention and that's all that matters.
A later post it was asked about the slang for 3pm. No slang just shorten the response another fellow member gave. You could say "A las Tres de la tarde", but no need. It's a given that's its going to be in the afternoon and not in the morning. So any spanish speaker would simply say it shorter "A las Tres".
Another post said the Google translation for "I'll call you on Thursday to confirm" was " Te dare una llamada el jueves para confirmar. You can make it shorter with "Te llamare el jueves para confirmar". I think that will help you more since you want it simple and sweet. Peace
Guitar I wouldn't go with your gut on this one, your gut will steer you wrong. But years ago I kind of fell for a working girl, I mean I still went to massage parlors and stuff while she shopped or whatever, but still I liked her and spent the majority of my time in Costa Rica with her. I don't think there is a chance for it to work out, no matter how great you treat her and how much better you know her life will be with you it just won't change who she is. You obviously like latin girls, and fortunately for you if you're a 6 you are an 8 in the latin world, you get 2 extra points for being a gringo, maybe even a extra. 5 if you are light skinned. If I were you I would continue going to Tijuana, obviously you aren't going to stop, and I would find a local latin store and spend an hour there every week eating, shopping whatever that latin store happens to provide find a way to use it. Then if you see a girl you think is pretty ask her out, to help you learn spanish, go to a concert or whatever floats your boat. I have dated a lot of latin girls here in the US and they are way easier to start a date with, it might not go somewhere, but atleast your rejection rate will be lower. American girls are more stop you before it starts which kills the confidence a bit. I would suggest not thinking of this girl in Tijuana as anything more than a freebie, she will never be a friend or a girlfriend. Latin women are crazy, they just are and that's one thing we love about them, but add crazy infront of a hooker and it's just setting things up for disaster. You probably could meet a cool girl in Las Pulgas or Dubai also but it's way too much work crossing back and forth over the border so I would focus more locally then when you learn spanish I think Mexican ladies will be a very easy beast to tame. I usually can have a half assed conversation with a girl but that's not enough I'm breaking down and going to take Spanish classes, I'm around it all the time but it still doesn't help me learn fast enough.Madison, I've been there as well with a WG from Colombia. At the end of the day, you did enjoy her company didn't you? I thoroughly enjoyed my time with my chica while it lasted. I saw my girl for three weeks and had lots of fun. It feels good when you don't have to pay for it and there's no rush for anything. Americans come from a different culture and clearly treat their women differently and it shines over and over and over again. One just can't be a pushover; and to be very weary when money is mentioned even jokingly.
Guitarrefreak clearly enjoys her company and maybe even have a small crush. There's nothing wrong with him putting his "bid" in so to speak. He can come out of this unblemished if he plays it cool. I suggest not putting your heart into it, at least not for a while, no matter what she says; Keep it cute and innocent. Women, especially latin women, don't like to show you all their cards (Poker Analogy). He obviously knows her profession, and willingly accepts it without putting too much judgment on it. If she's down for pizza or tamales or seafood, I say it's all good and to go for it. She can be a friend, maybe even a good friend. A freebie most definitely. With a little time spent together, that can improve on the intimacy part which if you think about it is the best part. Nothing's free in this world, let alone the vagina. A small insignificant gesture or small attention goes a REALLY long way in LatinoAmerica. I guarantee she would've told somebody where she's going and they will ask her how it went afterwards. So I would get the next size up on the pizza, if you were going to order a medium get a large instead so that they'll be leftovers-that's the key. So after the meal eaten together, she'll have leftovers to bring back home. Everybody in the household will be talking about how good the pizza was at their next meal, and she'll be snickering inside know ing it's true. So I would recommend going to a place with excellent pizza, most likely somewhere she hasn't gotten if it's possible and if there's time to research it. Americans are experts at knowing the best places to eat Pizza. No need to get dramatic or too romantic, but the gesture itself she'll remember for a while. A typical thing to do in Colombia in High School, when going to see a girl you like, would be to bring her a chocolatina (something sweet like a candybar; seems kinda funny but it works there like a charm more than roses I would have to say). Have fun. Keep it light. Be like Mr. Big from Sex and the City. Always the gentleman, and you'll see soon enough how quickly they start using the "L" word. Doesn't mean she means it but it's always nice to hear. She'll be texting you all the time asking to go out whenever you're in town. And that's when the real games begin to your advantage. Peace.
Ok so yesterday I'am down in Calexico working right next to the POE to Mexicali. And my ATF texts me, so I text back can you meet me in Mexicali tonight. She didn't even make some excuse why she couldn't come. Her text back was take care and kisses. So I get all pissed, and I'am like what a *****. I'am thinking I 'am going to have to find a new chica who can count to a thousand. Then I started thinking maybe that translation app I use screwed up. I put in "me puede responder esta noche en Mexicali" so if anyone can tell me what I actually said it would be appreciated. I did check google translate and it said something different.Hugo, the correct way to say it would've been "Nos podemos ver esta noche en Mexicali?" The application made it sound weird like " Can you answer me tonight in Mexicali?" I don't know why but you shorten the first word, it sounds better instead of saying Nosotros. Actually you could've dropped the Nos all together."Podemos ver esta noche en Mexicali?" is also a possibility. I'm happy to help all fellow members with translation whenever possible. Estoy a la orden-I'm at your service. Peace
MadisonGuy
09-02-11, 18:09
Madison, I've been there as well with a WG from Colombia. At the end of the day, you did enjoy her company didn't you? I thoroughly enjoyed my time with my chica while it lasted. I saw my girl for three weeks and had lots of fun. It feels good when you don't have to pay for it and there's no rush for anything. Americans come from a different culture and clearly treat their women differently and it shines over and over and over again. One just can't be a pushover; and to be very weary when money is mentioned even jokingly.
Guitarrefreak clearly enjoys her company and maybe even have a small crush. There's nothing wrong with him putting his "bid" in so to speak. He can come out of this unblemished if he plays it cool. I suggest not putting your heart into it, at least not for a while, no matter what she says; Keep it cute and innocent. Women, especially latin women, don't like to show you all their cards (Poker Analogy). He obviously knows her profession, and willingly accepts it without putting too much judgment on it. If she's down for pizza or tamales or seafood, I say it's all good and to go for it. She can be a friend, maybe even a good friend. A freebie most definitely. With a little time spent together, that can improve on the intimacy part which if you think about it is the best part. Nothing's free in this world, let alone the vagina. A small insignificant gesture or small attention goes a REALLY long way in LatinoAmerica. I guarantee she would've told somebody where she's going and they will ask her how it went afterwards. So I would get the next size up on the pizza, if you were going to order a medium get a large instead so that they'll be leftovers-that's the key. So after the meal eaten together, she'll have leftovers to bring back home. Everybody in the household will be talking about how good the pizza was at their next meal, and she'll be snickering inside know ing it's true. So I would recommend going to a place with excellent pizza, most likely somewhere she hasn't gotten if it's possible and if there's time to research it. Americans are experts at knowing the best places to eat Pizza. No need to get dramatic or too romantic, but the gesture itself she'll remember for a while. A typical thing to do in Colombia in High School, when going to see a girl you like, would be to bring her a chocolatina (something sweet like a candybar; seems kinda funny but it works there like a charm more than roses I would have to say). Have fun. Keep it light. Be like Mr. Big from Sex and the City. Always the gentleman, and you'll see soon enough how quickly they start using the "L" word. Doesn't mean she means it but it's always nice to hear. She'll be texting you all the time asking to go out whenever you're in town. And that's when the real games begin to your advantage. Peace.Yeah that's what I was trying to say, have fun but don't get too emotionally attached. But I still think it's impossible on your first one and you're better off finding a girl local to you, you are in latin country. It kind of helps in that you don't use the L word with them, to me te amo doesn't mean shit and I tell every girl I see there te amo and mi amor. Mi amor is a lot more normal in their culture though so that one doesn't mean that much to them. Not sure it te amo is as strong as I love you here, I know it means the same thing but I love you here is a big deal in a relationship.
On a side note I have been back home for like 3 days and I'm already eager for a trip to Philippines or CR. I might have to seek some help as looking through my bank statements for the year there hasn't been a month where I didn't go somewhere to supress an itch that just will never stop.
Joe Arturo
09-02-11, 18:14
I have a FWB who is Bi. We are going down to Tijuana this month. She will probably hook up on her own, but we will do at least one 3-way. Where is the best bang for the buck so to speak on finding chicks that really want to play with her. How about going rates? I know what I usually pay. 60-80 for club girls (HK, AB, CC etc.) and 20-25 for SGs in the alley.
What should I expect my friend to pay for girl on girl, and for a three-way session?
Thanks.Try Joanna at Chicago Club. She has always been involved in my best threesomes. She speaks good English also. $60 half hour or $100 for hour. Be prepared to pay for the room for both Joanna and your friend. In other words $24 per half hour instead of $12 per half hour. Tell her that Mike recommended her.
GlobalRampage
09-02-11, 20:34
After reading through the recent reports from many contributors (Madisonguy is golden) , I'm going for a solo trip this weekend. The plan is to stay at either Santiago or Ticuan. I'll follow my normal plan of starting to AB and then cruising to HK and hitting the taco stand around the block. I have gone through CC and TB in the past but never seen anything that caught my eye. I'll be checking them out this time and report back. Hopefully that pool is out of HK because the idea of a pool in that place kind of makes me nauseous. Who thought of that?
GlobalRampage
09-02-11, 21:15
I have a FWB who is Bi. We are going down to Tijuana this month. She will probably hook up on her own, but we will do at least one 3-way. Where is the best bang for the buck so to speak on finding chicks that really want to play with her. How about going rates? I know what I usually pay. 60-80 for club girls (HK, AB, CC etc.) and 20-25 for SGs in the alley.
What should I expect my friend to pay for girl on girl, and for a three-way session?
Thanks.Me and a girl I'm friends with had a 3-way with a girl from HK. We spent some time looking for the right girl to choose and the first girl we asked told us to wait for her to finish dancing but then we spotted a young hot girl in her racecar outfit (it was the theme at HK at the time). The BG was hot and it was a really good time since the girls got into each other. I think I paid 100 to the BG and 24 for the room since I had to pay for the room for each me and my friend. I definitely recommend you find a girl who is bi so you don't end up just swapping between them without them going at each other.
Yeah that's what I was trying to say, have fun but don't get too emotionally attached. But I still think it's impossible on your first one and you're better off finding a girl local to you, you are in latin country. It kind of helps in that you don't use the L word with them, to me te amo doesn't mean shit and I tell every girl I see there te amo and mi amor. Mi amor is a lot more normal in their culture though so that one doesn't mean that much to them. Not sure it te amo is as strong as I love you here, I know it means the same thing but I love you here is a big deal in a relationship.
On a side note I have been back home for like 3 days and I'm already eager for a trip to Philippines or CR. I might have to seek some help as looking through my bank statements for the year there hasn't been a month where I didn't go somewhere to supress an itch that just will never stop.You're absolutely right. 100 percent. The "L" word is used way too much in LatinAmerica. It's lost its value, yet it means Oh so much in the American culture. My chica was saying it the first week, and then on. It starting holding some water by the third week but never in the beginning. Beware, all newbies, of the overusage of the "L" word. Its a way to get sucked in unknowingly. They know how our culture is, so they know it means more to us than it does to them, GUARANTEED. That's why if you want to play the game, say it back, and use the word Mi Amor as well. It's just friendly flirtation, nothing more, and you'll score brownie points with the chica. Think about it, there is no second person in English. There is no way to make ordinary conversation more personal like in Spanish. In Colombia, you wouldn't use the second person to a stranger, only to family and significant others (ie "Como estas?" instead of "Como esta?") That's why "Te amo" is in second person, can't say "Le amo?" That wouldn't make any sense. I got my jollies, the first gf I had in Colombia, because I had earned the right to speak to her in the second person and only to her. It felt good in some weird way when I was in High School. Language can be a funny thing. Peace.
They sell good stuff. I brought back 6 bags of their eucalyptus lollipops. They work way better than halls and are a lot cheaper.Although he only approximated the spelling, Big John got the name of the chain of pharmacies correctly. Farmacias Similares not Farmacias Familiares.
Big John 1
09-03-11, 04:10
When my first Mexican GF did this thought it was just her. Now have another Mexican GF in Rosarito who did the same thing! I gently questioned her, she said she was thanking God for a beautiful time! I always knew he was a better lover than me! LOL! Anybody else have a similar experience? Big John
Guitarrefreak
09-03-11, 05:39
thanks mg and cb for the input. so here is my story today,
(12:30) i decided that i wanted to bail out from work today and just headed down, traffic was horrible and i was running late, while i was driving, she sent me a texto mensajes asking "estoy esperandotes?" which i have no clue what it meant and no time to check (since i was driving) , but i think i just knew she was already at the spot we agreed on.
(1:20) anyway, i got on a yellow cab and asked that guy to speed up, use my translator to explain to him i was late for date, he burst out laughing and say no problema and in broken english not to worry about it, i got in touch with my chica and handed the phone to the driver to help explain where to meet. 15 mins later, we met without incident on a place along paseo de los heroes.
(1:30) we then walked to the pizzeria, tiny shop, decent pizza, but since i was ran from the parking lot all the way pass the border to get the taxi, i honestly didn't have any appetite, but went ahead anyway as i didn't want her to feel discouraged, she ordered a chica sized peproni pizza and i did the same for a tocino, we went on for the hour in that tiny joint to try and maintain a conversation and at no point did we feel like we had nothing to say, despite language differences, of course, the translation app helped. total gfe along the way, giving me kisses and hugs and what not (she tells me she loves pizza by the way)
(2:30) after the meal, we then walked around the mall (like a couple, if i may say so myself) and we were just chatting, no matter sometimes she just goes on very quickly in espanol about something i don't understand, i just smile and she smiles back, what a dear. then she asked whats next, and i say, she is the host and i am the turista, how about she show me around (i was hoping she would suggest motel but anyway, thats later)
(3:00) we took a cab to a shopping mall with arcade, total gfe at this point, she asked me to exchange 10 dll of tokens and we just took our time playing air hockey, and some other bs games that people normally play in the arcade, we were very relaxed, not rushing or anything, and to be honest, though i really wanted to bang her on the spot, it has been a while since i felt anything like that, we exchanged our tickets for 2 pcs of chocolate and 2 lollipops.
(4:00) tired after the arcade, picked a spot outside where i bought myself a horchata to chill off and we just relaxed for about 10 mins there, us reminiscing about how we met and some of the funny moments, then at one point, i decided if it is now or never, and asked her (via translator) if it would be rude of me to take her to a motel, she gave me a warm smile and said no problem, she said she was ready to have sex with me anyway and that she likes me enough to do that and that she keeps an open mind about this, that really sends the blood flowing.
(4:30) hopped on a cab back to revolucion where we started to hunt for a motel, and all this while, she was still total gfe, hugging, kissing, doing what not, we went to 7-11 to buy a 3-pack condom and decided on a motel to go into. i would say, my biggest beef of the day happened at that time when, just before we went in, she turned around and asked me if i was going to give her any money, that took me a by surprise (ok maybe not surprise, just a tad disappointed) , i asked her how much, she asked how about 150, and i countered 100, she smiled and say ok sure, just for me.
(4:45) the little incident earlier did not make a dent on the passion she demonstrated to me in the room, no talks about paying upfront, absolutely nothing at all, deep passionate kisses and undressing and whatnot, and wanting to give a pleasant experience, i opted to take a shower while she undressed. careful side of me decided to leave the door open so that i can make sure she is not dashing out with my wallet (cautionary tale earlier in the thread, actually, i never thought she would, but again, maybe that little hiccup earlier put a dent in my subconsciousness) , i then proceeded to eat her out and she had that nice little musk which i am sure is well appreciated by senior members, no rush at all from her side, at one point, i asked her to give me a bj which she did not hesitate, but she give me only a cbj, no bbbj, which was another disappointment, but hey, if she is health conscious, that just means sometime if / when i do get a bbbj, its a major score for me 'eh? nonetheless, the cbj was slow and sensual, and she really took care of the surrounding, then proceeded to ride me cj, i felt she enjoyed it, then we went to missionary and we stayed like that for the remainder of the session, she was writhing and saying something in espanol which sounded really hot and kept calling my name, i could feel her sweat (or maybe its just my sweat on her, but lets not worry about technicalities) , i felt she made a genuine effort to be cooperative with my motions and thrusts and i would like to think i made her come a few times, at least thats what the bed sheets indicate.
(5:30) we spent sometime cleaning up but didn't spend much time cuddling, which was ok, and by the time we were clothed, i asked her if it was ok that i take a picture of us together but she turned that down, i think in the depths of her mind, i am still a customer and haven't completely moved beyond that, it was a little disappointing again, but to be honest, i am not surprised that a girl like her needs to protect herself, amen to that. as we checked out and walked along revolucion, there were shop owners calling out and saying we were a cute couple (now i shall reveal that i am a chino, so maybe that was the novelty behind) and she got really excited when some owner seemingly called her my girlfriend.
(6:00) as we were about to part our ways (me take taxi back to frontera, and she going back to her casa to prepare for work) , she gave me those big hugs and fat kisses out in the open, and asked me to promise that i will send her a texto mensajes to tell her i am safely home, and as we finally parted ways and i crossed the street, i looked back at her to see her looking back at me, just textbook love drama bs that can be written into a chick flick, and then i hopped on a yellow cab to head to the border.
guys, i think the text message and the looking back thing alone pretty much negates the minor disappointments i had today, because to be honest, the only thing that made me uncomfortable during those times were myself, and she did not seem like she was playing hardball on anything, and 99. 9% of the time we spent together today, she was 120% gfe. i am sure my story today will create some disputes, and of course, it is not a freebie, as i (or others supportive) hoped, still the damage was (5 for ride from border + 12 for lunch, + 8 for taxi to amusement park + 10 for arcade + 10 for taxi to revolucion + 8 for condom + 15 for room + 100 for her + 5 for ride back to border = 173 dll total)
imho, not bad for a 1:30pm 6:00pm gfe experience. this is the translated message i sent back to her when i got home:
"mi querido [name], gracias por una tarde maravillosa e inolvidable, estoy de vuelta en san diego ahora, su olor es todavia presente en mi nariz why no puerdo dejar de pensar en ti, cuando cruce la calle why mire hacia astras para ver, que me miraban, se que usted es un especial de una, algun dia, voy a ganar su corazon para que se tome una foto conmigo [my name]"
now, if google translate did not screw me over, i hope i am setting up the stage for the next meeting to up the ante, but will hear from espanol-savvy guys to challenge me on what i am trying to say above.
for now, i have to get back to planning my business trip to asia, where a atf is already asking me to go earlier, because she is worried her period may just arrive the time i planned to get there.
Plastermaster
09-03-11, 08:56
Does anyone know about the action going on there as far as the girls somebody told that the girls that used to work at mexico lindo bar across the street are working there now. I was at motel leon right next door the guy told me it was open thursay thru Saturday so I would like some feed back on this place and what kind of action.
(12:30) I decided that I wanted to bail out from work today and just headed down, traffic was horrible and I was running late, while I was driving, she sent me a texto mensajes asking "estoy esperandotes?"
"mi querido [name], gracias por una tarde maravillosa e inolvidable, estoy de vuelta en san diego ahora, su olor es todavia presente en mi nariz why no puerdo dejar de pensar en ti, cuando cruce la calle why mire hacia astras para ver, que me miraban, se que usted es un especial de una, algun dia, voy a ganar su corazon para que se tome una foto conmigo [my name]".Good start Guitar. For starters, the message she sent you in the car when you were driving down."Estoy esperandote".I am waiting for you. It can also be said by moving the last part to the front."Te estoy esperando".
Your text to her is 90% onpoint."Mi querido (should be with an a at the end because it is feminine the reference-Mi querida). Gracias por una tarde maravillosa e inolvidable. Estoy de vuelta en San Diego ahora (also possible is "Ya estoy otra vez en San Diego"). Su (better is 2nd person-tu) olor es todavia presente en mi nariz why no puerdo (puedo-misspelling) dejar de pensar en ti. Cuando cruce la calle why mire hacia atras que me miraban (not plural, only her looking back "mirabas") , se que usted (can't be usted since you already are using ti and must be consistent with tu, more personal anyway) es un especial (not precise. Must add what she is, person or lady, etc. Persona especial or mujer especial) de una, Algun dia, voy a ganar su (2nd person only "tu") para que te tome una foto conmigo.
Revised:" Mi querida (nombre) , gracias por una tarde maravillosa e inolvidable. Estoy de vuelta en San Diego ahora. Su olor es todavia presente en mi nariz why no puedo dejar de pensar en ti. Cuando cruce la calle why mire hacia atras para ver que me mirabas, se que tu eres una persona / mujer especial de una. Voy a ganar tu corazon para que tomes una foto conmigo"
I like it. Be sure the next time you text her to finish with "Mi amor". You had fun, you did not feel that it was a waste of time. You still had a happy ending, it didn't sound like it was mechanical. You are starting to have a solid rapport with this girl. It's good to have innocent / clean fun sometimes. She will not forget this afternoon so soon. Her work is so much of a routine for x, why reasons. Its funny that you mentioned the part about how she was staring at you as the taxi drove away.
I had a THANG going with a WG in Colombia and when it was the last day of my vacation, as I was saying goodbye in the staircase of her apartment building. She just stared through the glass door as I was walking down the street. I didn't notice it at first until I turned around. And just like in your case exactly, you get a weird funny feeling as those last moments leave the undeniable obviousness of the truth, a small little connection that money can't buy. HAHAHAH. Peace
GlobalRampage
09-03-11, 10:08
I just finished Friday night of the holiday weekend and wanted to write up my expeirence before bed.
Adelitas. Busy as normal, older chicas as usual, some nice ones but nothing to keep me from moving to HK.
HK. Holy crap! I haven't seen that many guys in HK ever. WTF. HK has always been a place of refuge. A water hole in the desert. Tonight was disturbing. I got there around 10pm and it was pretty packed but not terrible. One of the guys got me a good seat and brought me a lady according to what I told him I like. He did a good job and I went off to the room with that pretty girl. However, upon returning, it was like the guys have multiplied x2 and the number of girls had reduced. I now understand what Madisonguy meant when he said that Friday night's were a sausage fest. No thank you.
SW1. Upon leaving HK I was walking along and passed this stunning SW that I felt I couldn't pass up. For 20$ and 6$ for the room, the risk seems worth it! So, I went upstairs with SW1 and after a few moments she explained a CBJ was additional. I thought this was strange. And after 10 minutes into our session, I realized she wasn't even goign to take her clothes off, and I had to stop it there. She said that taking her clothes off was extra. W-T-F. I told her that I was done and got the hell out of there.
TB. Went to TB and no girls there were my type. I did not stay long.
CB. Chicago bar was empty. There were a couple girls that seemed desparate since there were no guests and a few of them were cute but I left.
Playboys. I had never been here before but the door guy insisted I check it out. Why not? So, inside there were a few people including one cute girl at the bar who seemed wasted. And one other cute one that he introduced me to. She was hot but I wasn't in the mood for her. Upstairs was dead. Dead. Dead.
SW2. As my previous encounter had left me with the impression that all SW would be that lame, I ran into SW2. SW2 had something about her that made me think she would be good; not to mention she was my type. Young and slim (and hot). We went upstairs and she was really good. I would repeat in a heatbeat.
I actually visited quite a few more places but nothing noteworthy to mention. In summary, tonight was a real sausagefest. I've done many Tijuana visits and this one had the highest sausage ratio ever. Evidently, it was so bad that I called it a night early and decided to continue tomorrow during the day.
Joe Arturo
09-03-11, 16:50
You're absolutely right. 100 percent. The "L" word is used way too much in LatinAmerica. It's lost its value, yet it means Oh so much in the American culture. My chica was saying it the first week, and then on. It starting holding some water by the third week but never in the beginning. Beware, all newbies, of the overusage of the "L" word. Its a way to get sucked in unknowingly. They know how our culture is, so they know it means more to us than it does to them, GUARANTEED. That's why if you want to play the game, say it back, and use the word Mi Amor as well. It's just friendly flirtation, nothing more, and you'll score brownie points with the chica. Think about it, there is no second person in English. There is no way to make ordinary conversation more personal like in Spanish. In Colombia, you wouldn't use the second person to a stranger, only to family and significant others (ie "Como estas?" instead of "Como esta?") That's why "Te amo" is in second person, can't say "Le amo?" That wouldn't make any sense. I got my jollies, the first gf I had in Colombia, because I had earned the right to speak to her in the second person and only to her. It felt good in some weird way when I was in High School. Language can be a funny thing. Peace.In Mexico,"Te Amo" is a really big thing (except for the hookers)."Te Quiero" is used for "I like you"."Te Quiero Mucho" is the next step. There is no such saying in English. It is a step between "I like you" and "I love you"."Te Amo" is the ultimate and is not used in real world Mexico very much. The first time that I said Te Amo to a gal that I had been dating for about a year she responded with "No te puedes amarme. No me conoces suficiente" which means you can't love me, you don't know me well enough.
The hookers say it to you in order to suck you in emotionally. From many years of experience in Mexico and many times letting my emotions (and my other head" control me, I can only give the advice that NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER fall for one of them. They are great actresses and only want to separate you from your money. A good friend hooker of mine in Mexicali once told me that all hookers were sometime in their lives emotionally killed by a man and don't have the capacity to love.
Have a good time but be careful out there.
Oh Ya Papi
09-03-11, 17:24
This is dead right on. He is so right. Me and my gf, non puta, say te quiero mucho. In fact I asked her about this, the difference between te quiero and te amo, she said te amo is with everything. So thats family and husband, so ya it will take a long time for the te amo to happen. But its just words. I like the idea of putas being emotionally dead and cannot love. I will ask a lover I have about this.
Thanks
In Mexico,"Te Amo" is a really big thing (except for the hookers)."Te Quiero" is used for "I like you"."Te Quiero Mucho" is the next step. There is no such saying in English. It is a step between "I like you" and "I love you"."Te Amo" is the ultimate and is not used in real world Mexico very much. The first time that I said Te Amo to a gal that I had been dating for about a year she responded with "No te puedes amarme. No me conoces suficiente" which means you can't love me, you don't know me well enough.
The hookers say it to you in order to suck you in emotionally. From many years of experience in Mexico and many times letting my emotions (and my other head" control me, I can only give the advice that NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER fall for one of them. They are great actresses and only want to separate you from your money. A good friend hooker of mine in Mexicali once told me that all hookers were sometime in their lives emotionally killed by a man and don't have the capacity to love.
Have a good time but be careful out there.
Guitarrefreak
09-03-11, 18:51
Some clarification, all members here will say that the starting is 20 dlls, but for any additional servicio you may want, sin ropa, CBJ, different position, that will add the price, SW is a very pop-and-go type of deal, the more "reasonable" chicas will settle on +5dlls for each, the ones that are highly sought after may ask for +10dlls, it is up to your negotiating with them.
Hopefully you popped anyway and did not waste the 26 dlls.
SW1. Upon leaving HK I was walking along and passed this stunning SW that I felt I couldn't pass up. For 20$ and 6$ for the room, the risk seems worth it! So, I went upstairs with SW1 and after a few moments she explained a CBJ was additional. I thought this was strange. And after 10 minutes into our session, I realized she wasn't even goign to take her clothes off, and I had to stop it there. She said that taking her clothes off was extra. W-T-F. I told her that I was done and got the hell out of there.
GlobalRampage
09-03-11, 20:59
Some clarification, all members here will say that the starting is 20 dlls, but for any additional servicio you may want, sin ropa, CBJ, different position, that will add the price, SW is a very pop-and-go type of deal, the more "reasonable" chicas will settle on +5dlls for each, the ones that are highly sought after may ask for +10dlls, it is up to your negotiating with them.
Hopefully you popped anyway and did not waste the 26 dlls.I missed the part about sin ropa in all the previous reading. And it didn't feel like a waste, even though I didn't pop. Just a learning experience since I've always stuck to BGs in Tijuana. Yesterday was an exception because of the overflow of guys in the bars. Thanks for pointing this out. I'll negotiate this beforehand from now on.
I had a THANG going with a WG in Colombia and when it was the last day of my vacation, as I was saying goodbye in the staircase of her apartment building. She just stared through the glass door as I was walking down the street. I didn't notice it at first until I turned around. And just like in your case exactly, you get a weird funny feeling as those last moments leave the undeniable obviousness of the truth, a small little connection that money can't buy. HAHAHAH. PeaceOh, no doubt!
Had this happen years back, with an ex-Tijuana fave. She had to retire and move back home to take care of her mom. I remember the last night, she insisted I come back to her little room for one last boink. She tried to convince me to spend the night, but I couldn't. I'll never forget her walking me to a taxi at 1:30am, and saying goodbye for the last time.
Similar experience in Burma a few years back.
But the one that will haunt me forever was a beer-bar girl in Pattaya. Had a wonderful time one night, but I had to get to BKK the next morning. I escorted her back to her bar (both of us with hangovers) and said good bye. I walked away, and felt something funny. I turned around, and there she was, looking back at me with a rather sad expression. To this day I kick myself that I didn't turn right around, go back and tell her to pack up and accompany me to BKK.
Yes, it is indeed a feeling that money cannot buy.
Guitarrefreak
09-03-11, 22:38
What a brotherhood this is, we are all kind of victims of our own mongering 'eh?
So what is the interpretation from guys here, how much do you value a girl telling you her "real" name? I know some just give them away to make you feel special, but then, there are some, that when you get their name, you feel like they are letting you in on a lot.
Oh, no doubt!
Had this happen years back, with an ex-Tijuana fave. She had to retire and move back home to take care of her mom. I remember the last night, she insisted I come back to her little room for one last boink. She tried to convince me to spend the night, but I couldn't. I'll never forget her walking me to a taxi at 1:30am, and saying goodbye for the last time.
Similar experience in Burma a few years back.
But the one that will haunt me forever was a beer-bar girl in Pattaya. Had a wonderful time one night, but I had to get to BKK the next morning. I escorted her back to her bar (both of us with hangovers) and said good bye. I walked away, and felt something funny. I turned around, and there she was, looking back at me with a rather sad expression. To this day I kick myself that I didn't turn right around, go back and tell her to pack up and accompany me to BKK.
Yes, it is indeed a feeling that money cannot buy.
So what is the interpretation from guys here, how much do you value a girl telling you her "real" name? I know some just give them away to make you feel special, but then, there are some, that when you get their name, you feel like they are letting you in on a lot.I think this varies with each, IMHO. I've had some chicas that weren't as open with their personal info until we'd been more regular together, and then there's some that that've told me their real name over first drinks, so it just varies with each. I guess we just have to develop our own personal BS-meter for what real or close-enough to real in this game.
What a brotherhood this is, we are all kind of victims of our own mongering 'eh?
So what is the interpretation from guys here, how much do you value a girl telling you her "real" name? I know some just give them away to make you feel special, but then, there are some, that when you get their name, you feel like they are letting you in on a lot.Hmnn. This is an interesting point to argue. Getting to know their real name is an obvious first step to getting to know them better. Its can be a pivotal step from being a nobody (John) to becoming a somebody. I would like to hear the opinion of a senior member like COUNTRY JOHN, for example, he has always thrown out solid "Monger Knowledge" on many many topics. In my experience, it can help, but to what degree is almost on a case by case basis. I've always gotten to know the real names of all the chicas I've been with if it was more than one encounter. It can't hurt, I'll say that much. You're starting to dip into that funny gray area, where their may be the beginning of something, what exactly? To be determined. The problem with SG / WG / BG / MG is that they have way way too many secrets. Her giving up her "real" name, is just one of a million secrets. It's a good start though. Let's say she tells you something a little juicer like where she's staying, how many bf's she really has / had, her financial situation, reasons for getting in the business, her "real" intentions with you, etc. Its a pivotal process, and I know senior members can shed a lot of light on this subject.
I remember I asked a WG once, how much money would it take to walk away from that life. You'd be surprised by their answers. Some can't even give you one because they have no other marketable skills, hence no way out. Peace.
This is dead right on. He is so right. Me and my gf, non puta, say te quiero mucho. In fact I asked her about this, the difference between te quiero and te amo, she said te amo is with everything. So thats family and husband, so ya it will take a long time for the te amo to happen. But its just words. I like the idea of putas being emotionally dead and cannot love. I will ask a lover I have about this.
ThanksI hope you and Joe Arturo are right about this. I've heard it a lot in my time in Colombia from pros (obviously) and non pros. I will say this much, the word "Mi amor" can be heard everyday depending on where you go in Colombia. Undisputable. Since Colombia is machista, and most of the sales force is made up by young attractive women, any possible reference almost always goes back to "Mi Amor". Joe Arturo's point about putas being emotionally killed and unavailable to love would be the challenge of all challenges in one's lifetime. It's probably not worth it, but imagine you wooing a pro that has been scorned, burned and jaded. If one reached such a goal, you'd have one DOWN ASS ***** on your hip. The ultimate Bonnie and Clyde scenario. It's possible, but the odds are against you and they can pull off Academy Award Performances.
Peace
Baxter Slade
09-04-11, 01:21
What a brotherhood this is, we are all kind of victims of our own mongering 'eh?
So what is the interpretation from guys here, how much do you value a girl telling you her "real" name? I know some just give them away to make you feel special, but then, there are some, that when you get their name, you feel like they are letting you in on a lot.Well when she figured out that my name was not my real name, she acted like she had some big confession and she told me her real name. However I don't think we hardly ever use our names. Whether it is her or my talking every sentence seems to start with Mi Amor. As a matter of fact I was getting so used to saying Mi Amor I almost called the waiter Mi Amor.
Guitarrefreak
09-04-11, 01:41
I have yet to make a decision on how to interpret my ATF giving me her name, actually the 1st time she told me was last Friday, which would have been our 3rd or 4th encounter, which is more than a year after our first encounter, what makes me give her credit too is, despite the very few times we have actually met in the past, she remembers my name the 2nd time we met and onwards, and while having lunch yesterday, she was so lovingly patient in helping me pronounce her name correctly, spell it and also give me her last name.
Maybe I am reading this too much, which, I guess is part of the fun anyways.
I am itching to head down there again tonight, but we will see, anyone crazy enough to join me?
Plastermaster
09-04-11, 01:53
I just finished Friday night of the holiday weekend and wanted to write up my expeirence before bed.
Adelitas. Busy as normal, older chicas as usual, some nice ones but nothing to keep me from moving to HK.
HK. Holy crap! I haven't seen that many guys in HK ever. WTF. HK has always been a place of refuge. A water hole in the desert. Tonight was disturbing. I got there around 10pm and it was pretty packed but not terrible. One of the guys got me a good seat and brought me a lady according to what I told him I like. He did a good job and I went off to the room with that pretty girl. However, upon returning, it was like the guys have multiplied x2 and the number of girls had reduced. I now understand what Madisonguy meant when he said that Friday night's were a sausage fest. No thank you.
SW1. Upon leaving HK I was walking along and passed this stunning SW that I felt I couldn't pass up. For 20$ and 6$ for the room, the risk seems worth it! So, I went upstairs with SW1 and after a few moments she explained a CBJ was additional. I thought this was strange. And after 10 minutes into our session, I realized she wasn't even goign to take her clothes off, and I had to stop it there. She said that taking her clothes off was extra. W-T-F. I told her that I was done and got the hell out of there.
TB. Went to TB and no girls there were my type. I did not stay long.
CB. Chicago bar was empty. There were a couple girls that seemed desparate since there were no guests and a few of them were cute but I left.
Playboys. I had never been here before but the door guy insisted I check it out. Why not? So, inside there were a few people including one cute girl at the bar who seemed wasted. And one other cute one that he introduced me to. She was hot but I wasn't in the mood for her. Upstairs was dead. Dead. Dead.
SW2. As my previous encounter had left me with the impression that all SW would be that lame, I ran into SW2. SW2 had something about her that made me think she would be good; not to mention she was my type. Young and slim (and hot). We went upstairs and she was really good. I would repeat in a heatbeat.
I actually visited quite a few more places but nothing noteworthy to mention. In summary, tonight was a real sausagefest. I've done many Tijuana visits and this one had the highest sausage ratio ever. Evidently, it was so bad that I called it a night early and decided to continue tomorrow during the day.Thats good I won't be going there on fridays
I have yet to make a decision on how to interpret my ATF giving me her name, actually the 1st time she told me was last Friday, which would have been our 3rd or 4th encounter, which is more than a year after our first encounter, what makes me give her credit too is, despite the very few times we have actually met in the past, she remembers my name the 2nd time we met and onwards, and while having lunch yesterday, she was so lovingly patient in helping me pronounce her name correctly, spell it and also give me her last name.
Maybe I am reading this too much, which, I guess is part of the fun anyways.
I am itching to head down there again tonight, but we will see, anyone crazy enough to join me?Yo, I'll be down there at the end of next month. If you're around, and are available, I'll be your wingman. My spanish is onpoint. Let me know later.
Peace
GlobalRampage
09-04-11, 02:21
Thats good I won't be going there on fridaysYeah, good call. However, Saturday during the day at HK was great, just like normal. I'm about to head down there again to check it out again before things get busy with the night crowd.
MadisonGuy
09-04-11, 08:10
I have yet to make a decision on how to interpret my ATF giving me her name, actually the 1st time she told me was last Friday, which would have been our 3rd or 4th encounter, which is more than a year after our first encounter, what makes me give her credit too is, despite the very few times we have actually met in the past, she remembers my name the 2nd time we met and onwards, and while having lunch yesterday, she was so lovingly patient in helping me pronounce her name correctly, spell it and also give me her last name.
Maybe I am reading this too much, which, I guess is part of the fun anyways.
I am itching to head down there again tonight, but we will see, anyone crazy enough to join me?Guitar, I enjoy reading your posts but honestly I'm a little worried about you. Just going 100% off what you are writing it sounds like maybe you're trying to talk yourself into thinking this girl is different or maybe GFE will become GF. Unfortunately it's a mistake that most guys have to make atleast once, sometimes over and over again to realize they need to seperate the two. Have you thought about trying a spanish dating site or something? Also I think you should throw away google translator. Check out odesk. Com, hire a translator for like 2-4$ per hour and translate things correctly. Google translator is great for words, but anything more and she is probably straining to understand what you are saying. I only know this because the same is true in reverse. There are just so many girls down in your area and Tijuana that aren't already whoring it up. It would be nice to meet one that speaks a little english, but there is something sexy and practical about not know what they are saying. I wish I didn't know what the hell my wife says most the time if not all the time.
Guitarrefreak
09-04-11, 08:17
Haha, MG, thanks for the advice, I do try to make my posts entertaining whenever possible.
Unfortunately for me, I have been down similar paths before too many times (al beit in Asia) and 50% of the time it turned out fine and the other 50% just plain disastrous.
In tijuana though, its the first.
To be honest, I don't think I need a gf down there, I just need a person to play the role of a gf so that every once in a while, when I cannot handle reality back home, I can escape down there.
The GFE == gf thing may still be true though, maybe I need to admit to myself I am trying to see if that will happen.
If only I could translate the very sexy espanol she was uttering along with my name while we were in the motel, that would be gold, I will need to ask her next time.
Guitar, I enjoy reading your posts but honestly I'm a little worried about you. Just going 100% off what you are writing it sounds like maybe you're trying to talk yourself into thinking this girl is different or maybe GFE will become GF. Unfortunately it's a mistake that most guys have to make atleast once, sometimes over and over again to realize they need to seperate the two. Have you thought about trying a spanish dating site or something? Also I think you should throw away google translator. Check out odesk. Com, hire a translator for like 2-4$ per hour and translate things correctly. Google translator is great for words, but anything more and she is probably straining to understand what you are saying. I only know this because the same is true in reverse. There are just so many girls down in your area and Tijuana that aren't already whoring it up. It would be nice to meet one that speaks a little english, but there is something sexy and practical about not know what they are saying. I wish I didn't know what the hell my wife says most the time if not all the time.
GlobalRampage
09-04-11, 10:14
Saturday report.
HK1. Went around 2pm and it was a great atmosphere, as I expect with HK. I sat down and was introduced to a very pretty girl who was my type (she was the forth or fifth one who was brought over). We went upstairs and had a good time.
El Museo. Okay, this isn't directly related to mongering. But damn, this restaurant is amazing. It is right on Revolution on the corner of the action. I highly recommend this place if you are looking for food in between the adventures.
HK2. Made my way back there around 6pm trying to get there before the night crowd arrived. Luckily, I sat down in a good spot because this really hot chica had a friend who was dancing 2 feet in front of me. I eventually got her to sit down next to me and she had just enough time to go arriba before she had to perform. Arriba we went. She was really good and afterwards she told me to hang out and watch her show. About 15 minutes later, she took the main stage and did a big strip show with countless cups of milk. As I watched, I thought "damn, she is hot". I'm glad I took her upstairs before she was covered in milk and soggy dollar bills. (Natalia)
HK3. After an evening intermission including a nice dinner at Ticuan and a short nap, I went back out at 11pm. I sat down and watched. Waiting for someone to catch my eye. Then I saw this tall, slim, beautiful chica walk by and go upstairs. She was too far way for me to say anything but I knew what I wanted. After finishing my drink, I made my way upstairs and walked around to see if I could spot her. Luck was on my side because I did run into her on the far side upstairs and asked her to sit down and have a drink with me. After talking a bit, I found out that it was her first night at HK (but not the last). Her price was 80$, which she told me before going arriba. I agreed. She was worth a premium IMO. It is tough to find a girl who is around 6', much less pretty and slim. She was worth every cent. (Kim)
SW4. After HK3, I was pretty tired but I ran into my favorite SW while getting tacos. I had to spend some time with her. I couldn't finish the deed before the time limit. But for 26$, I can't complain a bit.
In summary, HK is awesome. I walked through AB at least 4 times tonight and a few other bars without seeing anything of interest. It is only 2AM, so I'm going to check out Las Pulgas.
GlobalRampage
09-04-11, 12:21
To be honest, I don't think I need a gf down there, I just need a person to play the role of a gf so that every once in a while, when I cannot handle reality back home, I can escape down there.
The GFE == gf thing may still be true though, maybe I need to admit to myself I am trying to see if that will happen.
If only I could translate the very sexy espanol she was uttering along with my name while we were in the motel, that would be gold, I will need to ask her next time.I fell for a provider once. One of the independents in CR who works infrequently. We hooked up before I knew she was a provider and I didn't find out about her side-business until a few days later (she never asked for money). It just doesn't work. The girls label you as either BF material or hobbiest / sugar daddy / random guy. In my case, I do believe she really liked me. But at the same time, she knew I was on vacation and anything real wasn't practical. I wish you the best and I do believe that if you really want it, it can happen. However, I doubt that she considers you to be as serious as you consider her. Just rememeber that these girls have been through hell and back. That's why they are in this profession.
Daytonamonger
09-04-11, 13:12
I don't post an awful lot. But I also want to warn guitar that maybe 0. 5% of these women are looking for a real gringo boyfriend. Don't go all PLM on us and start throwing bad money after good on a GFE experience. Just go and enjoy Tijuana for what it is. When you start looking for a girlfriend in a working girl. You're going to walk away dissappointed 99. 5 percent of the time!
Guitarrefreak
09-04-11, 18:26
Being the cheapskate that I am, I am very cost conscious and by averaging out the cost that I spend specifically on a chick during each trip, I think I am just about doing fine.
Will be interested to see what this ATF is looking for (I know the other ATFs are just in for the di nero)
Whats PLM?
I don't post an awful lot. But I also want to warn guitar that maybe 0. 5% of these women are looking for a real gringo boyfriend. Don't go all PLM on us and start throwing bad money after good on a GFE experience. Just go and enjoy Tijuana for what it is. When you start looking for a girlfriend in a working girl. You're going to walk away dissappointed 99. 5 percent of the time!
Being the cheapskate that I am, I am very cost conscious and by averaging out the cost that I spend specifically on a chick during each trip, I think I am just about doing fine.
Will be interested to see what this ATF is looking for (I know the other ATFs are just in for the di nero)
Whats PLM?Pathetic Loser Monger. Generally a guy who thinks his hooker "GF" loves him, he knows he loves her, he spends money on her constantly, buys her anything she wants, follows her around like a puppy, etc, etc. Maybe not all of the above, but you get the idea. You've seen 'them. And SEA is full of 'them, too. Guys that send beaucoup bux to some BG, every month, because she promised him that she loved only him, would stop peddling her ass and move home and wait only for him.
In my experience, the Tijuana working ladies don't want a BF as you and I define BF. I like to call it a LTCR, or Long Term Commercial Relationship. If you get along well, and "click," you may become one of her "faves." When you visit you'll have a good time, do interesting things, have a lot of fun in and out of la cama. But, at the end of the day, money will always change hands. The amount may change, but it will never go away. Unless you tell her you love her, you put a ring on her finger, move to Mexico and support her.
One example is my fave who retired to Chiapas several years ago. She enjoyed my visits because she didn't have to spend another long night in the club, with the noise and the cig smoke, etc. In her words, she could "relax, have good sex, have a good time." Not too long into this LTCR, it became "whatever you can pay me," which I liked. But, regardless of the good time, there was always payment due. She had to pay the rent and send money home.
So, if this sort of arrangement suits you, then the Tijuana girls may be right up your alley. But a true BF / GF or FWB arrangment is much more difficult to find.
Guitarrefreak
09-04-11, 22:29
PLM, haha, noted.
No I don't think I am at that point, but good to know how the hispanic culture and latina expectations can be like.
I do think LTCR is a great way to continue this relationship at the time being, its not like I have anything else besides poor espanol to offer her at this time.
Pathetic Loser Monger. Generally a guy who thinks his hooker "GF" loves him, he knows he loves her, he spends money on her constantly, buys her anything she wants, follows her around like a puppy, etc, etc. Maybe not all of the above, but you get the idea. You've seen 'them. And SEA is full of 'them, too. Guys that send beaucoup bux to some BG, every month, because she promised him that she loved only him, would stop peddling her ass and move home and wait only for him.
In my experience, the Tijuana working ladies don't want a BF as you and I define BF. I like to call it a LTCR, or Long Term Commercial Relationship. If you get along well, and "click," you may become one of her "faves." When you visit you'll have a good time, do interesting things, have a lot of fun in and out of la cama. But, at the end of the day, money will always change hands. The amount may change, but it will never go away. Unless you tell her you love her, you put a ring on her finger, move to Mexico and support her.
One example is my fave who retired to Chiapas several years ago. She enjoyed my visits because she didn't have to spend another long night in the club, with the noise and the cig smoke, etc. In her words, she could "relax, have good sex, have a good time." Not too long into this LTCR, it became "whatever you can pay me," which I liked. But, regardless of the good time, there was always payment due. She had to pay the rent and send money home.
So, if this sort of arrangement suits you, then the Tijuana girls may be right up your alley. But a true BF / GF or FWB arrangment is much more difficult to find.
Ath Trainer
09-04-11, 23:25
These girls are screwing strangers as fast as they can, every day, to help their families survive. Even if she likes a guy, she probably can't afford to take the night off to have a good time with him, without making any $ that day.
MadisonGuy
09-05-11, 05:47
I don't post an awful lot. But I also want to warn guitar that maybe 0. 5% of these women are looking for a real gringo boyfriend. Don't go all PLM on us and start throwing bad money after good on a GFE experience. Just go and enjoy Tijuana for what it is. When you start looking for a girlfriend in a working girl. You're going to walk away dissappointed 99. 5 percent of the time!I think. 5% is on the high side. I think if you can speak spanish you're golden in getting the women in Tijuana, if not maybe hang out at the english schools? Ha ha. Tijuana is definetely not like Asia, it's way way easier there. I would say if you rate on a scale of 1 to 10 how hard it is to pick up a girl 10 being easiest, Asia is an 11, Tijuana is a 4, US averages around a 1-2, Costa Rica is like a 6. If I could find a local girl to me that only speaks spanish and I pay her to screw and learn spanish for like a couple hours a week man would that be an idea situation. Oh yeah Guitar guy check out craigslist I found a couple college hotties wanting to charge 10 / hr for teaching spanish, unfortunately I don't have the ability to pursue a real GF right now or that would be a great way to meet a girl and learn something at the same time. I need to be single for like 3 months before I really get my tiger like ability to pounce on single girls, I haven't had a drought for years and it really is making me lazy with the ladies.
Guitarrefreak
09-05-11, 05:55
Hey MG, mind PMing me examples of some of those links?
All jokes / mongering aside, I think the private tutoring will do me well and the price is in my range.
Back to the mongering side, I have txted my ATF a few times over the last 2 days and even I am starting to get bored of myself, maybe she's too busy to answer or can't be bothered, who knows, BTW, does anyone know if / how much it costs them to receive a text message on their phones?
I think. 5% is on the high side. I think if you can speak spanish you're golden in getting the women in Tijuana, if not maybe hang out at the english schools? Ha ha. Tijuana is definetely not like Asia, it's way way easier there. I would say if you rate on a scale of 1 to 10 how hard it is to pick up a girl 10 being easiest, Asia is an 11, Tijuana is a 4, US averages around a 1-2, Costa Rica is like a 6. If I could find a local girl to me that only speaks spanish and I pay her to screw and learn spanish for like a couple hours a week man would that be an idea situation. Oh yeah Guitar guy check out craigslist I found a couple college hotties wanting to charge 10 / hr for teaching spanish, unfortunately I don't have the ability to pursue a real GF right now or that would be a great way to meet a girl and learn something at the same time. I need to be single for like 3 months before I really get my tiger like ability to pounce on single girls, I haven't had a drought for years and it really is making me lazy with the ladies.
Oh yeah Guitar guy check out craigslist I found a couple college hotties wanting to charge 10 / hr for teaching spanish.Indeed, please share the links of the tutors. I've been looking on Craigslist for over two weeks, and all I found was some old hags charging 30-40 bucks per hour. So, if you would, please share.
MadisonGuy
09-05-11, 16:02
Indeed, please share the links of the tutors. I've been looking on Craigslist for over two weeks, and all I found was some old hags charging 30-40 bucks per hour. So, if you would, please share.Sorry guys I'm up in Wisconsin. College town so that might help up here. If craigslist isn't workin for you post at the local latin store, you could also find a maid for cheap that way. I pay $8 / hr for someone to clean my house. The latin store can be more time consuming because if you're looking for a hottie to teach you spanish I'm guessing it's about a 1/10 ratio because that is about ratio for house cleaning people being hot, maybe it would be a little better for spanish.
I recommend http://www.speakshop.com/. Speakshop offers live, one-on-one, video lessons with teachers in Guatemala. They have several of them. The teachers are trained language teachers, and while they have little English, most of their students (both online and in person) are English speakers and they have lots of experience bridging the language gap in their lessons.
Last time I looked, it was like $5 an hour, and I think you buy several hours up front. The money is split between the teacher and the school she works for, which is usually PROBIGUA, a non-profit language school whose proceeds benefit the Guatemelan Library Project (they build libraries in rural parts of the country to give children access to books and computers).
By the way, spent last night at the Hacienda de Santiago. Everyone warned me about the noise, but I didn't listen. So I spent all last night listening. To the noise. People in the streets shouting up at guests. Car alarms going off. Motor cycles. More car alarms. And really shabby towels.
Staying at the Ticuan now. I think it's worth the dinero.
MadisonGuy
09-06-11, 00:07
My subliminal message didn't work. Ticuan is very important which room you stay in, if you are on the Revolution side it will be fairly loud also. Also you don't want to be on the inside you want to have a window outside, the ones inside have plumbing noise per other posters.
I recommend.
http://www.speakshop.com/.
Speakshop offers live, one-on-one, video lessons with teachers in Guatemala. They have several of them. The teachers are trained language teachers, and while they have little English, most of their students (both online and in person) are English speakers and they have lots of experience bridging the language gap in their lessons.
Last time I looked, it was like $5 an hour, and I think you buy several hours up front. The money is split between the teacher and the school she works for, which is usually PROBIGUA, a non-profit language school whose proceeds benefit the Guatemelan Library Project (they build libraries in rural parts of the country to give children access to books and computers).
By the way, spent last night at the Hacienda de Santiago. Everyone warned me about the noise, but I didn't listen. So I spent all last night listening. To the noise. People in the streets shouting up at guests. Car alarms going off. Motor cycles. More car alarms. And really shabby towels.
Staying at the Ticuan now. I think it's worth the dinero.
Irony Monger
09-06-11, 06:12
My subliminal message didn't work. Ticuan is very important which room you stay in, if you are on the Revolution side it will be fairly loud also. Also you don't want to be on the inside you want to have a window outside, the ones inside have plumbing noise per other posters.Anybody know if the wireless internet is working at Ticuan now? When I was there earlier in the year it was not (I was disappointed, but not severely inconvenienced. Another customer was downright irate).
The last few times I have stayed at the Ticuan, the wifi worked really well. Make sure you get the password from the receptionist. Also, I believe they have a different password for each floor, but the receptionist will let you know.
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MadisonGuy
09-06-11, 16:09
anybody know if the wireless internet is working at ticuan now? when i was there earlier in the year it was not (i was disappointed, but not severely inconvenienced. another customer was downright irate).irony i did have a problem my last two stays there. some days it happens and some days it doesn't. i'm guessing they have an old router or something because the problem seems to be from miscommunication. anyway what i did to fix it was i went to the icon in lower right hand corner for internet, clicked disable. then i pulled up device manager and reconnected, or enabled the internet. i have no idea why it worked but it did. like i said somedays i needed to do this everytime i refreshed my laptop and some days it was fine. it could have something to do with who else is using the wi-fi it's not the most secure system in the world and if someone has a screwed up computer i'm sure it can affect others. the speed was just fast enough to use magic jack or place calls on skype, i think they are at about 6mb down and 1 up.
Ninguno Especial
09-07-11, 03:04
I have txted my ATF a few times over the last 2 days and even I am starting to get bored of myself, maybe she's too busy to answer or can't be bothered, who knows, BTW, does anyone know if / how much it costs them to receive a text message on their phones?They can receive text messages for free IF their 'prepaid' cell is charged. If not, they cannot receive the message but can receive a "call" for about a minute to 90 seconds before they are cut off. The calls incoming are free for them as well as texts but it does cost them more to reply to a USA # than Mexico.
You also need to make sure it has the 1 for example to Tijuana it is 011 521 664 xxx xxxx not sure the 1 is required for textos but for voice it is.
Baxter Slade
09-07-11, 04:18
To be honest, I don't think I need a gf down there, I just need a person to play the role of a gf so that every once in a while, when I cannot handle reality back home, I can escape down there.Hey Guitar I think you hit the nail right on the head. I couldn't really figure out exactly what I was looking for in a relationship down in Tijuana. I do know I wanted something other than just sex. And to have someone down there I can connect with it does make a great place to go to escape that reality at home. So hopefully by all of us sharing info on here we can all learn a little more about those mysterious chicas south of the border. The one thing I did do differently when I found a girl I connected with is I left sex out of the equation for about the first 7 months. Eventually she was begging to go to the room I would always come up with some excuse. At one point she was like lets go to the room NADA and she said she would pay for the room. But nothing happened as far as sex until after we went on a date away from the club. Not sure if that is a good formula to get a GF type but I would be curious to hear what others have to say. These days she never asks for money and she will spend the whole night with me. But of course nothing is free, I wish I could say she slowly sips her ficha drinks when I go to see her while she is working but thats not the case.
As this relationship continues I'am just looking for insight into the best way to treat her. I have found many times with American woman many times you can treat them like a queen and you will get nowhere as soon as you treat them like shit they come around. I am always on alert worried about being used but this one seems different. Today she texted me to see if I was still coming this week (Iam suprised she even remembered since I just threw a date out there a few weeks ago). I asked her if she needed anything for her daughter starting school again, and she said No gracias. So she doesn't seem to want to take advantage of my kindness. Maybe she is still grooming me, something CJ has warned me about or maybe she is just working on an exit strategy from the bar scene.
Oh yea one more thing I do agree that the key here is being able to communicate so I'am going to have to learn the language. On my next visit since it will be extended over a couple days it will be interesting to see how much time she sets aside for me. I didn't even warn her I would be there for a few days so that should tell me someting. So if I can ask a favor of a spanish speaker I'am going to need to learn how to say " Can you meet me later at." or "when can I see you?" I stopped trusting those online translators since they have messed me up a couple times.
Tratnguyen1
09-07-11, 05:10
Gents,
I am due for a 3 days weekend to go south of border from my last time July 4, 2011.
I arrived in Zona norte around 7pm. Friday 2 and check in my room at Rizo de Oro,
This hotel is above Tropical bar. The front desk guy said my $25 USD room Not ready,
So he sold me a nice room with zacuzzi for $30 USD a night. I was at pleasant surprise,
This room is worth $ 60 USD at fair market price. However, I Got it cheap through Internet
Reservations. First stop for the Night was at Tropicaj bar and I met a girl I was with
Last time, of course, I try the room with nice jacuzzi and Heaven time for 45 minutes, BBJ,
Full Services for 500 Pesos. Of course, I Did not have to pay extra for the room.
On Saturday, I went to Aztec for the massages at $25 USD an hour. It was just normal Good relax
And I was sure pleased with the girl who worked hard for a $5usd propina!
I checked out HK. Bar and it was full house with guys and all Chicas beatifull as usual.
I Did Not take any girl out because the Girls quote around 80usd plus room cost.
BTW, there was plenty of Street Girls hungry to work for Food at $20 USD.
I went to ST. Girl this time and It was Okay, a bargain for $ 20 USD. Plus $6usd room.
Sunday was another visit Aztec for massage after Church Visit and a lunch at Pollo Chico.
I went to Adelita to see what was new. It was None of my liking, Girsl were just average
And I Did not bother ask the price. HK girls are a Notch ot 2 above Adelita to me
I went back to Tropical bar for the girl I know and again, A Heaven time in my Jacuzzi room.
Three full Nights in T. J. Sure Did the job for me. I was head back home in the morning of Monday
To beat crazy traffic on Labor day evening.
Guitarrefreak
09-07-11, 05:27
Thanks for the input, I do have that "1" when I dial to them, I know they receive my txts
My ATF has been awfully quiet, which is a bit of a bummer, but inline with what the other members have said, these chicas sure as hell are unpredictable, I guess one just has to be prepared for these kind of roller coaster longing rides.
They can receive text messages for free IF their 'prepaid' cell is charged. If not, they cannot receive the message but can receive a "call" for about a minute to 90 seconds before they are cut off. The calls incoming are free for them as well as texts but it does cost them more to reply to a USA # than Mexico.
You also need to make sure it has the 1 for example to Tijuana it is 011 521 664 xxx xxxx not sure the 1 is required for textos but for voice it is.
Don Smith 10
09-07-11, 05:54
Thanks for the input, I do have that "1" when I dial to them, I know they receive my txts
My ATF has been awfully quiet, which is a bit of a bummer, but inline with what the other members have said, these chicas sure as hell are unpredictable, I guess one just has to be prepared for these kind of roller coaster longing rides.When you text cell phone in tijuana from USA. 011-52-664#######
When you call cell phone in tijuana from USA. 011-52-1-664#######
When you call land line in tijuana from USA. 011-52-664#######
Just got my SENTRI the other day.
The instructions clearly state to activate the card by logging into my account, and clicking an Activate Card button. But, there is NO such button.
Has anybody received a SENTRI card lately? Did you have to activate before use?
Anyone? Bueller? Anyone?
Guitarrefreak
09-07-11, 06:12
What's the difference? Cost?
When you text cell phone in tijuana from USA. 011-52-664#
When you call cell phone in tijuana from USA. 011-52-1-664#
When you call land line in tijuana from USA. 011-52-664#
Guitarrefreak
09-07-11, 06:12
This Friday, anyone down?
So if I can ask a favor of a spanish speaker I'am going to need to learn how to say " Can you meet me later at." or "when can I see you?" I stopped trusting those online translators since they have messed me up a couple times.Glad to help out a brotha in need.
"Can you meet me later at"."Te puedo ver mas tarde en?"; or "Nos podemos ver mas tarde en?"
"When can I see you?"-"Cuando te puedo ver?"; or "Cuando nos podemos encontrar?"; or "Cuando podemos encontrarnos?"
Like in any language, you can always say the same thing in many different ways. I hope this helps. Peace.
MadisonGuy
09-07-11, 15:10
Thanks for the input, I do have that "1" when I dial to them, I know they receive my txts
My ATF has been awfully quiet, which is a bit of a bummer, but inline with what the other members have said, these chicas sure as hell are unpredictable, I guess one just has to be prepared for these kind of roller coaster longing rides.I'd start looking for a new ATF, eventually you will find the anamoly that does return texts often. I feel the same as you when a girl doesn't return a text, in the US girls text like 100 times a day so it's weird when it is so different there. But like anywhere else there is always one girl who is a little different, just got to find her. Another thing I found odd, I didn't see any girls texting on their phones in any places I was at while they were working, but if there was a computer somebody was always on facebook. I sure wish facebook had better search options, it would be a great way to find girls in Tijuana that speak english. That girl I picked up at Adelitas only worked there for 2 months and before that she always dated a gringo, that's exactly what I'm looking for I just need to catch her before she starts selling herself, once you do that there's no turning back in my opinion.
Guitarrefreak
09-07-11, 15:52
At least I know not to take her un-responsiveness personally, hehe.
There are moments where she will text back to me like crazy and then drought periods for a few days, but I guess this loco side of her is what makes me crazy about her too.
I was planning on a backpacking trip down to central america in the month of julio, both as a little getaway but also an opportunity to work on my espanol, that got delayed, I wondered if she will be willing to take 2 weeks off work, of course I will compensate her a little but definitely not counting on her as a high class escort.
I'd start looking for a new ATF, eventually you will find the anamoly that does return texts often. I feel the same as you when a girl doesn't return a text, in the US girls text like 100 times a day so it's weird when it is so different there. But like anywhere else there is always one girl who is a little different, just got to find her. Another thing I found odd, I didn't see any girls texting on their phones in any places I was at while they were working, but if there was a computer somebody was always on facebook. I sure wish facebook had better search options, it would be a great way to find girls in Tijuana that speak english. That girl I picked up at Adelitas only worked there for 2 months and before that she always dated a gringo, that's exactly what I'm looking for I just need to catch her before she starts selling herself, once you do that there's no turning back in my opinion.
Ninguno Especial
09-07-11, 18:58
What's the difference? Cost?Depends on YOUR carrier not hers and the only difference would be land lines vs cell phones. I believe land lines (homes / businesses) are less $ than cell phones but rarely ever call them myself.
MadisonGuy
09-07-11, 20:26
I can't tell you how highly I unrecommend you do that. It would be worse than taking sand to the beach, it would be like taking mud to the beach. If by central america you are talking down to like Panama I suggest you find a girl who is not in Mexico or atleast not in a filthy city like Tijuana. Your appeal to the ladies will go up a ton more the further away from the US you get and Mexico has the most similar to US people in terms of obesity and lazyness. If you want find a hooker in Costa Rica or somewhere else, I still recommend a normal girl working in a store. I will tell you everytime I have been to Costa Rica I have never been turned down for a date with any girl I asked out working in a clothing store or hotel. I know you've built up some trust so it seems easier to do a vacation with this girl but trust me it gets easier the further South you travel, it's not so easy it's not fun like Asia, those girls it's hard just to get to leave. I think that would be awesome to backpack through central America, you just may want to be a little more choosey with the girl you're bringing. Another thing to consider is the language getting old. I did a 3 day trip with a girl in CR once and luckily she was pretty quiet but even then sometimes it was like damn I want to have a conversation with someone in English. I think Nicaragua and Guatamala are the easiest places that I have heard of for meeting ladies, I would go for a high class normal girl compared to a low class hooker. You have to think of yourself as Justin Timberlake in these other countries, consider this the average Costa Rican makes around $5000 / year, when they did a survey the average Costa Rican thought the average American makes $500, 000 / year. If I made 500k a year even the girls in the US would be droppin their panties now consider yourself in a third world country. That is what I used to keep in the back of my mind when asking girls out there, because I just am not that aggressive in the US. Plus your Tijuana girl will probably want to be compensated, I look at it like why the hell would I pay someone to take a vacation? The girls in Tijuana don't look at it like that, I ran a weekend getaway trip by some of them, they seemed interested but I could still see the dollar signs rolling in their head. Keep us posted if you do that though I'd love to hear about it in detail.
At least I know not to take her un-responsiveness personally, hehe.
There are moments where she will text back to me like crazy and then drought periods for a few days, but I guess this loco side of her is what makes me crazy about her too.
I was planning on a backpacking trip down to central america in the month of julio, both as a little getaway but also an opportunity to work on my espanol, that got delayed, I wondered if she will be willing to take 2 weeks off work, of course I will compensate her a little but definitely not counting on her as a high class escort.
Big John 1
09-07-11, 23:00
This was on Craigs yesterday Tijuana Craigslist under chica busca chico has phone number hurry before gets flagged give report chica about a 3 in foto but for BBBJ for $20doable! LOL! Stuck Rosarito with GF but luv report go for it researchers! Who wants to be first? LOL! Be careful guys!Just looked at Craigs foto again still up chica closer to 2 than 3 but huge tits doable for BBJ not much more close your eyes,guard your wallet!LOL!Big John
Baxter Slade
09-08-11, 00:05
Hey Madison, I just saw a news report about in room safes not being as secure as one might think. Did you happen to use the in room safe to stash any cash without any problem at Ticuan?
Also thanks for the translations Colbrotha.
MadisonGuy
09-08-11, 03:31
Hey Madison, I just saw a news report about in room safes not being as secure as one might think. Did you happen to use the in room safe to stash any cash without any problem at Ticuan?
Also thanks for the translations Colbrotha.They run a very tight ship at Ticuan I myself would not worry about it, I only put cash and passport in the safe. I talked with some of the maids and they were very nice girls, one even dateable once her braces are off. I really would be surprised to ever find out about any theft at Ticuan. I have 3 things that went wrong at Ticuan, and trust me that's a low count because I'm pretty picky about hotels. 1. Fridays and Saturday I always seem to be next to the drunk get in at 3AM crowd 2. One time I got roomservice and they forgot the lemonade (but an hour later they brought it without me even saying anything which was kind of funny) 3. My last stay they forgot my 2AM wakeup call, I always back it up though on my phone and I've had many hotels in the US do the same thing. Other than that I've got about 20 nights in there and no problems I would trust the front desk girls with a couple thousand cash in a pinch, they're really a great bunch of employees I always tip housekeeping and I bring treats for the front desk girls and I never do that in the US. Ticuan is still number 1 hotel for me in the world, it felt like home to me. Unfortunately unlike the Ritz Carlton or Four Seasons I don't catch many celebrities in Ticuan but I can't have everything.
Guitarrefreak
09-08-11, 05:32
Point noted.
Actually, as of today, I just have to get over the fact that her sporadic text messages are just the way it is, though I have asked her the same question many times about if she was available tonight or last night or when we can have the next date and no response to those except to ask me to get her a size small shirt when I am on my business trip to China, this is confusing as fuck, maybe its the translators fault.
(BTW, my atf in China, I called her up and said sorry I wasnt going to go there as intended this month, what she said just gave me an instant boner "by the time you come next month, my period will have passed and we will be completely safe to have fun")
I hope my tijuana chica can ever say that to me too.
I can't tell you how highly I unrecommend you do that. It would be worse than taking sand to the beach, it would be like taking mud to the beach. If by central america you are talking down to like Panama I suggest you find a girl who is not in Mexico or atleast not in a filthy city like Tijuana. Your appeal to the ladies will go up a ton more the further away from the US you get and Mexico has the most similar to US people in terms of obesity and lazyness. If you want find a hooker in Costa Rica or somewhere else, I still recommend a normal girl working in a store. I will tell you everytime I have been to Costa Rica I have never been turned down for a date with any girl I asked out working in a clothing store or hotel. I know you've built up some trust so it seems easier to do a vacation with this girl but trust me it gets easier the further South you travel, it's not so easy it's not fun like Asia, those girls it's hard just to get to leave. I think that would be awesome to backpack through central America, you just may want to be a little more choosey with the girl you're bringing. Another thing to consider is the language getting old. I did a 3 day trip with a girl in CR once and luckily she was pretty quiet but even then sometimes it was like damn I want to have a conversation with someone in English. I think Nicaragua and Guatamala are the easiest places that I have heard of for meeting ladies, I would go for a high class normal girl compared to a low class hooker. You have to think of yourself as Justin Timberlake in these other countries, consider this the average Costa Rican makes around $5000 / year, when they did a survey the average Costa Rican thought the average American makes $500, 000 / year. If I made 500k a year even the girls in the US would be droppin their panties now consider yourself in a third world country. That is what I used to keep in the back of my mind when asking girls out there, because I just am not that aggressive in the US. Plus your Tijuana girl will probably want to be compensated, I look at it like why the hell would I pay someone to take a vacation? The girls in Tijuana don't look at it like that, I ran a weekend getaway trip by some of them, they seemed interested but I could still see the dollar signs rolling in their head. Keep us posted if you do that though I'd love to hear about it in detail.
Point noted.
Actually, as of today, I just have to get over the fact that her sporadic text messages are just the way it is, though I have asked her the same question many times about if she was available tonight or last night or when we can have the next date and no response to those except to ask me to get her a size small shirt when I am on my business trip to China, this is confusing as fuck, maybe its the translators fault.
(BTW, my atf in China, I called her up and said sorry I wasnt going to go there as intended this month, what she said just gave me an instant boner "by the time you come next month, my period will have passed and we will be completely safe to have fun")
I hope my tijuana chica can ever say that to me too.Dude. Lose the translator. It probably regurgitates stuff she can't understand, so she ignores it and tries to make the best of what she does. .
I have two non-pro Thai GFs who like to use Google Translate. I guess they think it's the cat's ass. They put a long-ass string of Thai into it, and it spits out English gibberish, which they happily e-mail to me. I have to ignore most of it. And no way to ask for clarification, because it is such nonsense there is no place to begin."My hovercraft is filled with eels." That sort of thing.
I think your ATF may be experiencing the same problem. The online translators are really only good for small items, or getting the overall gist of something.
Go find a local Spanish 101 class. All you need is some vocabulary and the ability to string together a basic sentence. The rest you'll pick up from practice.
Guitarrefreak
09-08-11, 07:24
I know man, I know, such a fuckin bummer.
I just don't have time from my regular day to take a class (no, seriously) and I really only use this opportunity to spit out any espanol shamelessly and make her laugh.
For this ATF, actually while I was hanging out with her last week, she seemed to get most of the stuff I type on the fly into the translator, but yeah maybe some of my longer sentences got translated into eel-filled hovercrafts.
Even the shorter msgs she doesn't reply though, fucking bummer, maybe its just her latina nature.
Dude. Lose the translator. It probably regurgitates stuff she can't understand, so she ignores it and tries to make the best of what she does. .
I have two non-pro Thai GFs who like to use Google Translate. I guess they think it's the cat's ass. They put a long-ass string of Thai into it, and it spits out English gibberish, which they happily e-mail to me. I have to ignore most of it. And no way to ask for clarification, because it is such nonsense there is no place to begin."My hovercraft is filled with eels." That sort of thing.
I think your ATF may be experiencing the same problem. The online translators are really only good for small items, or getting the overall gist of something.
Go find a local Spanish 101 class. All you need is some vocabulary and the ability to string together a basic sentence. The rest you'll pick up from practice.
SuperSteve
09-09-11, 15:57
Until one learns some conversational Spanish I would recommend that they check out Ectaco translators. They are not cheap for the better ones, but do a very good job. The phrases that Guitarrefreak asked about I typed into the translator I have and they came out like what was given in response. You can also buy Sim cards with different languages, so if you go to LOS you can pop that Sim in and be good to go. If the phrases are already in the translator, you can speak into it and it will auto-translate.
Guitarrefreak I hope that things are going well with your ATF. It can be very intoxicating to have a beautiful young lady take an interest in me. If I really want a relationship with a lady I must speak her language, and move to where she is. Then, just like any relationship between a man and woman it is only 50-50 at best. Relationships are like trying to mix oil and water. Men run on data, while women run on feelings (no data needed). As a man it is hard for me to relate to a woman just because she feels a certain way.
From reading your posts, IMO you started out on a very high. As she didn't answer at times you began to doubt. IMO, do not try to figure out why there was no response. It is what it is. Doubt will not help you with where you want to be, if you truly want something more than just a fling. When you start to feel the doubt, know that it is not a good place for you, immediately change that thought to positive. If you remain positive, whatever happens will be right for you.
Just the ramblings of an old f*rt, what do I know, except that it has worked for me.
Health & happiness to all.
Super Gato
09-09-11, 19:59
I know man, I know, such a fuckin bummer.
I just don't have time from my regular day to take a class (no, seriously) and I really only use this opportunity to spit out any espanol shamelessly and make her laugh.
For this ATF, actually while I was hanging out with her last week, she seemed to get most of the stuff I type on the fly into the translator, but yeah maybe some of my longer sentences got translated into eel-filled hovercrafts.
Even the shorter msgs she doesn't reply though, fucking bummer, maybe its just her latina nature.I've noticed that my chica doesn't get some of my messages sent from my US phone. Or they're delayed. I've literally sat next to her in the bar while using AT&T coverage and sent her messages that don't come through. But with my Telcel number, they always come through instantly. A nice bonus of my Telcel phone is I receive SMS messages when I'm at home for free (it costs about 4 pesos to respond, which is more than AT&T charges) but I'll leave them hanging until I'm within the Telcel signal (Jack in the Box parking lot).
The problem with the translators is they're attempting to translate things word for word instead of from a phrase or idiomatic sense. A lot of times she can get the gist of your translations but sometimes it will be gibberish. Until you can take a class (or Rosetta Stone or Pimsler) look for phrasebooks, not dictionaries.
Also, remember although she receives texts for free, it costs money to send responses back (an international text is 2x that of sending one to a local). And if her account is empty, she won't receive messages until she tops off the account. Since SMS expire, your message can vanish into the ether between the time you sent it and she tops off her account. If she's low on pesos in her account, she might decide to wait to respond, but by the time she recharges she's forgotten about your message. Or she's a flake.
I also hate to break this to you, but she's also got several other clientes texting her all the time and so she manages her time (and phone) accordingly. You also need to build a stable of favoritas so you've always got a standby.
Big John 1
09-10-11, 00:05
This was on Craigs yesterday Tijuana Craigslist under chica busca chico has phone number hurry before gets flagged give report chica about a 3 in foto but for BBBJ for $20doable! LOL! Stuck Rosarito with GF but luv report go for it researchers! Who wants to be first? LOL! Be careful guys!Just looked at Craigs foto again still up chica closer to 2 than 3 but huge tits doable for BBJ not much more close your eyes,guard your wallet!LOL!Big JohnTold a guy I know here in Rosarito about this chica, he did a test run for 200pesos, not $20, he said worth every pesos said she swallowed also said try no look at her face! This man is Mexican. Ad still up on Craigs with phone number, this man says if you call she speaks a little English if not Spanish speaker.
MadisonGuy
09-10-11, 16:23
I've noticed that my chica doesn't get some of my messages sent from my US phone. Or they're delayed. I've literally sat next to her in the bar while using AT&T coverage and sent her messages that don't come through. But with my Telcel number, they always come through instantly. A nice bonus of my Telcel phone is I receive SMS messages when I'm at home for free (it costs about 4 pesos to respond, which is more than AT&T charges) but I'll leave them hanging until I'm within the Telcel signal (Jack in the Box parking lot).
The problem with the translators is they're attempting to translate things word for word instead of from a phrase or idiomatic sense. A lot of times she can get the gist of your translations but sometimes it will be gibberish. Until you can take a class (or Rosetta Stone or Pimsler) look for phrasebooks, not dictionaries.
Also, remember although she receives texts for free, it costs money to send responses back (an international text is 2x that of sending one to a local). And if her account is empty, she won't receive messages until she tops off the account. Since SMS expire, your message can vanish into the ether between the time you sent it and she tops off her account. If she's low on pesos in her account, she might decide to wait to respond, but by the time she recharges she's forgotten about your message. Or she's a flake.
I also hate to break this to you, but she's also got several other clientes texting her all the time and so she manages her time (and phone) accordingly. You also need to build a stable of favoritas so you've always got a standby.Hey Gato, I highly recommend getting a world phone next time you switch phones. I loved that I had one phone getting telcel and US texts, then when I left I just erased all traces of numbers from Mexico. The phones in Mexico are so ridiculously priced it makes absolutely no sense to me. The world phone option is limited, but you look better pulling out a $900usd phone than a 20usd phone. I'm guessing you didn't waste much money on one of their phones but I could be wrong.
The world phone option is limited, but you look better pulling out a $900usd phone than a 20usd phone. I'm guessing you didn't waste much money on one of their phones but I could be wrong.Look better to who?
If one is trying to impress potential muggers and pickpockets, then, well, go 'head on.
If one is trying to impress a Tijuana hooker, then, well, one is merely being pathetic. :)
BTW, you would be surprised at the number of cell phones that are "lost" in a place like HK.
I would like to know if anyone here would get Dental work with an ex Maxim Model and local celebrity.
Her name is Nadia Ramos and she is a dentist.
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Guitarrefreak
09-10-11, 20:48
Had the pleasure of meeting up with Tomjackin' in person to shoot the shit for a few hours down in Amnesia and then headed down to his turf at HK to witness some pro-mongering action.
(@tom: it is essential that I buy the next round next time, my buddies express their thanks too, I am thinking of heading down again in a few hours)
Long story short, I got into several,"what. The. Fuck" moments last night independent of the above. Got off work late, headed down w / buddies and hopped on my 1st taxi ever where I know amnesia location better than he does. Rather crowded Friday night with what I thought was a decent distribution of girls. Brought 2 friends whom I will leave their ethnicity info undisclosed for fear of retaliation.
At amnesia, I have slowly start to lose interest in many girls except my ATF (there are 3 of them) and last night, ATF #2 showed up first which was a bit of a bummer. She is the one I seemingly had a freebie during our first night out and during the 2nd encounter, suggested she wanted monetary compensation after the deed. Anyway, before things turned awkward, she was throwing smiles and wet kisses to me like we always did. At one point (and I blame it on the alcohol I already consumed) , my eyes started following an attractive looking chica walking across the room and dang it turned to be my ATF #1, whom ATF #2 knew and recognized. Man, got to take a look at the change in her face, and she tells me she is getting jealous.
Anyway, I was a getting a little annoyed because she wouldn't let the topic go, and to be honest, little brother downstairs was doing most of the thinking too, eventually, I don't know if something got lost in google translate, or out of spite, she turned to my buddy and started making out to him (I don't think I mentioned to my buddy that I fucked her twice before) , and they eventually went to get a private dance after which she disappeared (Before they headed to private dance, she texted me something along the lines of, this is why she hates guys, or why did I sleep with her if I don't like her, etc)
During this time, I was just keeping my eye on my ATF 1 who did not seem to realize I was there, and one of the chicas having fun was telling me that she was waiting for another guy, I took an opportunity to go to the rest room passing by her and she looked genuinely shocked to see me as she did not even make any attempt to hug / kiss / etc, which was fine. Anyway, we didn't say much and by the time I got out of the rest room, she was gone and for the next hour or so, sporadically spotting her coming in / out of the VIP room.
At one point, Tom suggested we should get going to HK, and my buddies were seriously becoming BBB, so thats where we headed, Tom hooked us up with no cover entrance after which he managed to get his buddy waiter to find us a spot to sit upon which he started to demonstrate his advanced mongering skills, I will have to give myself another decade there,
To each his own, but I have found the zona or Tijuana in general now to be a little 'less' attractive than it used to, but then maybe I am just going through my periods, my BBBs had a whole lot of fun it seems, and one of the first guy picked up a chica for 60 which he said later that she underperformed, don't remember her name, another buddy picked a girl he bought 2 drinks for and he told me he had the most awesomenest session he ever got for 80 bucks total (or compared to 260 dlls session he had state side). I was just having fun teasing a regular SW I banged twice and just in general being an idiot last night, all in all, great times and great memories watching Tom pound on some tequila (hope you got back to ticuan safe buddy)
Towards the end of HK, my ATF #1 texted me and asked me where I was. With the kind help of my BBB #2's good chica, she helped me send some swift messages back and also helped me translate a subsequent message along the lines of "I am so sorry, I didn't know you were here earlier, are you staying in Tijuana tonight?" anyway, that was enough to get me to want to go back to amnesia which we did. Right after I walk up the stairs, she was there waiting for me, and immediately she came up from behind me and hug me from my back while we walked to a booth, I felt my dick size triple when I hear my buddy utter,"that is total GFE right there"
The rest of the evening was a little blurry though, after the tequila shots and cerveza earlier has kicked in. I just remember making out with my ATF, she was downing the 20 dll drinks at a, slightly painful, but not quite unreasonable rate and all around we were just making out. We made verbal plans to meet up for lunch today but we will see.
As I was telling Tom earlier in the evening, I needed to have the opportunity to "feel hurt" to show up at her work place yet not getting her attention, only doing this several times will let me get used to the very point that everyone has listed earlier, that I am not her only client, and etc. All good advice and I think I will be getting to that state of mind soon (hopefully before my spending becomes too crazy).
Left Tijuana around 7am.
Another side story on the screw-ups of my buddy's primvera visite tijuana and how he managed to blow a ridiculous amount of money during trip. But I will post that tonight.
Peace all
Ninguno Especial
09-10-11, 21:58
Google Expo Tequila for link to their site which appears to be under construction so the dates are not cast in stone. On Revolucion at 7th street. Lot's of good tequilas for around other than 14th. 16th most likely $5 entry fee, unlimited tequila samples. Pretty promo models and local chicas mingling.
MadisonGuy
09-11-11, 03:43
Look better to who?
If one is trying to impress potential muggers and pickpockets, then, well, go 'head on.
If one is trying to impress a Tijuana hooker, then, well, one is merely being pathetic. .
BTW, you would be surprised at the number of cell phones that are "lost" in a place like HK.I have never in my life got mugged or pick pocketed. So I'm not going to begin to start worrying about it now. It's not necessarily about impressing anyone, it's just a chip at the confidence when you pull out a shitty little phone or have to wear a stupid tourist t-shirt or a million other things I could mention. I played the don't wear nice stuff and be afraid of your shadow but at the end of the day if I get mugged I'm getting all new shit and probably better because it's all insured. I got one of those gay ass phones in Philippines last time and I hated learning it, pulling it out, just everything about it. I love that my blackberry got message from the US and Mexico it was so convenient. The cost to replace my phone would also be less than if I lost a phone I bought in Mexico which is another reason it makes more sense.
I had a plan for Friday afternoon and evening; didn't work out. Got me a great room at the Ticuan in the early afternoon, then off I went for tacos and HK, in that order.
In HK, I chatted with one of the English speaking girls for a bit and she was telling me about the blackout the night before. She said many of the girls were crying and left the club to go home to be with their children because they thought the world was coming to an end, it has something to do with the bible I guess; like I would really know! BTW, some more new talent in HK, I was a happy camper!
The plan was to meet a girl at Playboy at 5:00. On my way to Playboy, I was tackled by my favorite SG, Clara. Not many customers around and she was hungry for me, I mean money. I told her of my plan, but also told her if the girl didn't show, she would clearly fit into Plan B.
Playboy seems like an OK place, but I only stayed for a drink. Within the time frame of that one drink, I was propositioned at least 20 damn times about women, drinks, and tips. Geez Louise, and I thought HK was bad about things like that. Either way, the girl was a no show, so off to Plan B. Grabbed Clara, off to the store for tasty adult beverages, and then on to the hour hotel.
Little did I know, Clara was only the beginning of Plan B. Spent some more time in HK and then off to New York. I'm not really sure as to why I stop in this club; I just do. One of the girls that works in there is quite a cutie. She is from Seattle, speaks perfect English, and only acts as a hostess; making money off of ficha drinks. I asked her if she ever went to a hotel with one of the customers, she replied,"Hell no!" I replied,"OK, I'll give you two hundred bucks for one hour of sex right here and now!" She turned me down, not that I would have paid that much anyway, but I did want to see if she was serious or not.
I've been wanting to check out Amnesia for quite a while and meeting up with Guitarrefreak gave me the perfect excuse to go. The 5 buck cover charge is unwarranted because the place is just OK, IMHO. It is a good size club and does have some hotties working there. The screwdrivers were 7 bucks and the ladies' drinks (did not partake) were 10 bucks. The place seems too professional? Not enough skin running around for me, but either way I did enjoy hanging with Guitarrefreak and his buddies for a while.
We all headed to my stomping ground, HK. There was a line at the door, but my pal Mercedes waved us though. It was somewhat late and the sausage fest was in full swing, but there were plenty of women available. My other pal, David, that used to work days, latched on to me and scored us a booth. I told him to fetch us some fine women and he came though like a champ. The 2 for 1 coupons and women were flowing; life was good at HK.
This is where Plan B should have ended; but not for me. I stumbled across to Tropical to see if any of my heart throbs were working and after I walked in, I saw my favorite sitting in one of the chairs where the girls wait for a dance area. After we settled in the place, I had a "Here we go" moment! I've never been to one of the VIP rooms before, so I figured last night would be a good time; what the hell.
I know the VIP rooms on the right side of the bar are a decent size, but they were occupied, so we ended up in one of the smaller ones. Either way, it was a blast. Once the light is out, no one can see in, but you can see out; kind of kinky for sure. Both of us buck naked, door unlocked, and somewhat of an audience; hell yeah!
After the play time in Tropical, I headed back to HK, but for only one reason. I had Mercedes (love that girl) put me in one of her "trusted" cabs in order to get back to the Ticuan.
Bottom line; Plan B kicked ass!
Long story short, I got into several,"what. The. Fuck" moments last night independent of the above.
At amnesia, I have slowly start to lose interest in many girls except my ATF (there are 3 of them) and last night, ATF #2 showed up first which was a bit of a bummer. She is the one I seemingly had a freebie during our first night out and during the 2nd encounter, suggested she wanted monetary compensation after the deed. Anyway, before things turned awkward, she was throwing smiles and wet kisses to me like we always did. At one point (and I blame it on the alcohol I already consumed) , my eyes started following an attractive looking chica walking across the room and dang it turned to be my ATF #1, whom ATF #2 knew and recognized. Man, got to take a look at the change in her face, and she tells me she is getting jealous. (Before they headed to private dance, she texted me something along the lines of, this is why she hates guys, or why did I sleep with her if I don't like her, etc.Welcome to the game. I'm no psychologist but I have noticed throughout my experiences that pros get "extremely" jealous about these kind of things. As fine as they are physically to the world / opposite sex, they can manifest so much EXTREME insecurity, it can be a little' mind blowin at times. Yeah, she's a woman with feelings working in a hyper-chaotic environment and money is an underlying variable never to be ignored, but still I've seen this time and time again. I guarantee you she was thinking about you the whole time she was with your BBB, GUARANTEED! It's funny like that and it was confirmed by the text message she sent you. Can there really be any more competition between girls than in a SC like HK? The fact that you had gotten a freebie says a lot, regardless of money compensation the next time around. She's been burned before, she admits it in her text message about "hatin men"; its just a weird set of circumstances what we see go down in any SC. Punters / Mongers that are constantly crossing the line between something, possibly something, maybe nothing with a BG / WG / SG over and over again. Most of them if not all of them have a tremendous amount of low self esteem, and this is one way it manifests itself. She was probably thinking,"I don't believe it, he's looking at her, she's must be prettier than me, he'll probably leave me for her, etc". I had a somewhat similar experience.
My Colombian WG thang warned me the first time we went "out" and had a few drinks. She said "Conmigo estas jugando con fuego, soy candela"-With me, you're playing with fire, red-hot. At some point in time, she saw me talking to another WG for whatever reason, it doesn't even matter. She got so mad / jealous that she started making threats under her breath, talking about putting her six feet under and all that garbage. Like GLP said back in the day "Game recognize game". Peace.
PS Expect all that to keep happening, might even get worse, but in some funny fucked up way, its how they show they care even if its just a little itty bitty bit.
Guitarrefreak
09-11-11, 12:07
Glad to hear you had a great time even after we departed bro.
I just ended got back to SD again from my trip there tonight.
Need to digest some thoughts before I make my post.
This is where Plan B should have ended; but not for me. I stumbled across to Tropical to see if any of my heart throbs were working and after I walked in, I saw my favorite sitting in one of the chairs where the girls wait for a dance area. After we settled in the place, I had a "Here we go" moment! I've never been to one of the VIP rooms before, so I figured last night would be a good time; what the hell.
I know the VIP rooms on the right side of the bar are a decent size, but they were occupied, so we ended up in one of the smaller ones. Either way, it was a blast. Once the light is out, no one can see in, but you can see out; kind of kinky for sure. Both of us buck naked, door unlocked, and somewhat of an audience; hell yeah!
After the play time in Tropical, I headed back to HK, but for only one reason. I had Mercedes (love that girl) put me in one of her "trusted" cabs in order to get back to the Ticuan.
Bottom line; Plan B kicked ass!
Guitarrefreak
09-11-11, 12:09
And, I guess the fucked up side of us men do enjoy seeing that happen.
PS Expect all that to keep happening, might even get worse, but in some funny fucked up way, its how they show they care even if its just a little itty bitty bit.
MadisonGuy
09-11-11, 15:45
I agree totally. With latin girls in general this is normal, but take a hooker and it takes all normal emotions to the extreme. Some of them probably sell themselves just because they have given up on their night in shinning armor. I thought about it and the girls that were close to girlfriends that I met in hooking all had one thing in common. I didn't sleep with them right away. It always worked out that I already screwed a girl and then I met them, and I think that I didn't want to sleep with them but wanted to hang out with them was odd and for whatever reason they liked it. I'll never forget the first night I met the Costa Rica girl who woke me up at 2am in a drunken stooper to announce her love of me, unfortunately my love of sleep was pissed off so I kicked her out, it was also before I knew any spanish so she just spoke a bunch of jiberrish to me. Anyway the next day I saw her and she apologized and everyday from then on she would be waiting for me in my hotel lobby when I woke up. Good luck finding a girl that can be on time in latin America, that too me is the most important thing because I hate waiting. Anyway long story short that girl loved me like a kid loves a puppy until she saw me get mad at her and then it all melted away, until then I was perfect. Once you lose that perfect image to these girl then you just become a quick buck again so in the end I still think you're better of going to Las Pulgas and meeting someone who will not see you with her friend at her bar or any other crazyness.
Welcome to the game. I'm no psychologist but I have noticed throughout my experiences that pros get "extremely" jealous about these kind of things. As fine as they are physically to the world / opposite sex, they can manifest so much EXTREME insecurity, it can be a little' mind blowin at times. Yeah, she's a woman with feelings working in a hyper-chaotic environment and money is an underlying variable never to be ignored, but still I've seen this time and time again. I guarantee you she was thinking about you the whole time she was with your BBB, GUARANTEED! It's funny like that and it was confirmed by the text message she sent you. Can there really be any more competition between girls than in a SC like HK? The fact that you had gotten a freebie says a lot, regardless of money compensation the next time around. She's been burned before, she admits it in her text message about "hatin men"; its just a weird set of circumstances what we see go down in any SC. Punters / Mongers that are constantly crossing the line between something, possibly something, maybe nothing with a BG / WG / SG over and over again. Most of them if not all of them have a tremendous amount of low self esteem, and this is one way it manifests itself. She was probably thinking,"I don't believe it, he's looking at her, she's must be prettier than me, he'll probably leave me for her, etc". I had a somewhat similar experience.
My Colombian WG thang warned me the first time we went "out" and had a few drinks. She said "Conmigo estas jugando con fuego, soy candela"-With me, you're playing with fire, red-hot. At some point in time, she saw me talking to another WG for whatever reason, it doesn't even matter. She got so mad / jealous that she started making threats under her breath, talking about putting her six feet under and all that garbage. Like GLP said back in the day "Game recognize game". Peace.
PS Expect all that to keep happening, might even get worse, but in some funny fucked up way, its how they show they care even if its just a little itty bitty bit.
Super Gato
09-11-11, 20:26
Hey Gato, I highly recommend getting a world phone next time you switch phones. I loved that I had one phone getting telcel and US texts, then when I left I just erased all traces of numbers from Mexico. The phones in Mexico are so ridiculously priced it makes absolutely no sense to me. The world phone option is limited, but you look better pulling out a $900usd phone than a 20usd phone. I'm guessing you didn't waste much money on one of their phones but I could be wrong.My Mexican phone is my old Sony Ericsson unlocked GSM phone I picked up in Germany. I bought a SIM card at the Telcel store in Plaza Rio (150 pesos with a 200 pesos airtime credit). The phone cost me more than a current smartphone new, but it has a great camera / video / push email / Opera browser. And its battery lasts forever it seems. Due to its age, it is EDGE only. My main US phone is an iPhone locked to ATT and there's not a super reliable unlock for it to "just work" outside the US with my firmware so I carry two phones. Having access to the net on the iPhone with a larger screen has spoiled me, so eventually I'll get an unlocked smartphone for use outside the US (I don't travel internationally nearly as much as I used to, it is less of a priority since often my iPhone can get ATT's signal from Zona Norte). The SE phone is tiny enough to carry with me. I've thought about instead of getting a new phone for my adventures in Tijuana, but to just get a 3G wifi hotspot thingy and just use my iPhone for the web via Telcel's 150MB / day for <$5 versus the $20 / mb ATT roaming (I usually get by on the 15MB for 15 pesos plan on my SE phone). For the occasional phone call and text, I can pay their extortionist rates or add the Mexico calling plan.
Although it is funny how the girl's eyes light up when they see my iPhone (especially right after they came out) but I bring the phone for me, not as a piece of jewelry to impress them.
I went years without getting pick pocketed or robbed, too. I did have my iPhone 3G lifted from me in Tijuana (at Hong Kong I think, I didn't notice it missing until I was back at my hotel). I also had a phone lifted from me in Reynosa, Tamaulipas boys town a few years ago too. In that case, the boys town version of an alley girl had hugged me and wondered why I hadn't visited her but I'd never seen her before. After that I never let strangers hug me like that. Again, didn't notice the phone missing until I was at CBP later and it was too late. Plus I needed a new phone anyway that time). I wouldn't whip out my iPhone walking down Constitucion or other places known for rateros. The key in any big city is to not to draw attention to your shit. Inside the big clubs, it is pretty safe but you still have to keep your eyes on your stuff at all time. Compared to other places I've mongered, the big clubs in Tijuana are relatively safe and I'm rarely the person that is best dressed and showing off bling. They're the ones that will get the attention from bad guys, not me.
Super Gato
09-11-11, 20:56
Welcome to the game. I'm no psychologist but I have noticed throughout my experiences that pros get "extremely" jealous about these kind of things. As fine as they are physically to the world / opposite sex, they can manifest so much EXTREME insecurity, it can be a little' mind blowin at times. Yeah, she's a woman with feelings working in a hyper-chaotic environment and money is an underlying variable never to be ignored, but still I've seen this time and time again. I guarantee you she was thinking about you the whole time she was with your BBB, GUARANTEED! It's funny like that and it was confirmed by the text message she sent you. Can there really be any more competition between girls than in a SC like HK? The fact that you had gotten a freebie says a lot, regardless of money compensation the next time around. She's been burned before, she admits it in her text message about "hatin men"; its just a weird set of circumstances what we see go down in any SC. Punters / Mongers that are constantly crossing the line between something, possibly something, maybe nothing with a BG / WG / SG over and over again. Most of them if not all of them have a tremendous amount of low self esteem, and this is one way it manifests itself. She was probably thinking,"I don't believe it, he's looking at her, she's must be prettier than me, he'll probably leave me for her, etc". I had a somewhat similar experience.It isn't jealousy so much as her belief another girl is taking money out of her pocket from her client. More than anything, this is like a high pressure sales environment and the girls build up a client list and don't want other salespeople moving in on their territory. Sure feminine insecurity might enter the equation a little, but it really is all about the money. You buy a car from the same car salesman every time and then go into the same dealership and buy a car from a new salesman and your old salesman will be a little pissed off). It is a business.
I've had favoritas show up in a club in Nuevo Laredo and totally scare away a new girl to that club (there's a senority thing going on too) sitting with me (it was OK with me, the girl wasn't proving to be worth it. And for to be a total cabrona and take her man from the newbie was fun to watch) and I wanted the favorita anyway. Had I dismissed her, it wouldn't have made a difference in our status with each other. In smaller clubs and zonas it can get fierce with competition so the girls can take it personally when you're not with them. But they forget the second they land another cliente. I like to think aside from my money, my favorites enjoy time with me. I'm attentive. I treat them like a lady. I speak their language. I practice good hygiene. I don't haggle. As with sales, some customers are better to work with than others.
On Friday night at Adelita, I bought a drink for a girl I hadn't been with before and I didn't sense a positive vibe and sent her away with the (maybe later faux promise). A favorita appears and I sit with her. The new girl saw this and made a face at me. It was really more of a teasing joke than any jealousy. My favoritas always tease me about being with other girls but I remind them that they're often with other dudes. The ones I like know I'll be back if she's worth it. And if she wasn't worth it, she wouldn't be on my favorites list. I always tease one of my current favorites that she's too popular for me and next time I'll need to make an appointment. She teases me about going upstairs with other girls and I say playfully say only because she was upstairs with some other guy.
The key to successful hobbying is to remember it a business. Some of the girls can be very sweet, be great in bed, and make it difficult to keep your head straight. I think everyone here has fallen for a girl at least a little, at least once. Like a good salesperson, she's using her feminine charms to get to you and make you a steady customer. But if you remember it is a business, you're better off. There's some girls I love conducting business with.
And there are crazy women in this line of work. There's that fat big titted cow that often dances in the cage near the front door to Adelita that will be pissed off if guys passing by don't tip her. I have no problem tipping girls I find attractive but a topless fat cow is still fat cow. She'll often make crude comments as I pass by like "why you fucking here?" um, you're by the door, puta. If the girl really is crazy about you getting with other girls over you. When she's a prostitute seeing way more people than you do. It is time to find a new favorite. Part of my criteria for favorites is their personalty and easygoingness. If she offers too much drama, she's off the list.
Guitarrefreak
09-11-11, 21:05
Maybe time for me to buy some Telcel prepaid SIM card.
So essentially, you are saying it is 150 pesos for ownership of the number + 200 pesos of talk time?
How much time does 200 pesos give you?
I bought a SIM card at the Telcel store in Plaza Rio (150 pesos with a 200 pesos airtime credit).
Guitarrefreak
09-11-11, 21:13
Well said my homie.
Just to clarify a little on my story.
The girl that told me she got jealous, is (was) my ATF#2.
She knows I am stoked about ATF#1 (actually all girls in Amnesia now seems to know, I guess I am shooting myself in the foot for making that so obvious).
ATF#1 doesn't seem to know I have ATF#2, maybe I need to tell her, you know, in the spirit of full disclosure.
Anyway, ATF#2 made me feel a little uncomfortable with her jealousy because she made it really obvious that night, despite knowing my feelings about ATF#1. Could be business, could be other things, because she asked me why I had sex with her (well, because I am a guy, duh). Guess sex does complicate things, especially if there was no 'clear' transfer of money (the transfer of money was quite ambiguous and unclear with this ATF#2). I shall know better moving forward.
As for ATF#1, last night, talked to some chicas with good English, really pro- and seasoned girl, knew I wasn't going to be spending too much money on her but I bought her several drinks anyway (cheap ones) and she stayed around long enough to listen to my story and tell me her opinion. Lots of input from her that I need to ponder about. Which I think are genuine input, because I already made it clear to her, that I see her as a friend and I don't plan on spending crazy money on her. She was cool with that.
Her advice was, in the end, whether a chica likes you or not, if you are taking time away from her work, then you will need to compensate her for it, so that the time she spends with you, she is focused on you only, and not have to worry about hustling with other guys. And to be a gentleman, you will want to pay more than what she typically makes on that night.
Words of wisdom.
Does anyone know how much a average chica would make in a strip club or Zona Norte club on lower traffic nights vs high traffic nights?
What about the average salary of a regular Tijuanan?
Peace.
It isn't jealousy so much as her belief another girl is taking money out of her pocket from her client. More than anything, this is like a high pressure sales environment and the girls build up a client list and don't want other salespeople moving in on their territory. Sure feminine insecurity might enter the equation a little, but it really is all about the money. You buy a car from the same car salesman every time and then go into the same dealership and buy a car from a new salesman and your old salesman will be a little pissed off). It is a business.
[QUOTE=Super Gato; 1196212]The key to successful hobbying is to remember it a business. Some of the girls can be very sweet, be great in bed, and make it difficult to keep your head straight. I think everyone here has fallen for a girl at least a little, at least once. Like a good salesperson, she's using her feminine charms to get to you and make you a steady customer. But if you remember it is a business, you're better off. There's some girls I love conducting business with.
[QUOTE]I had a similar situation last year with one of my long time favorites. I saw her on a Friday night, we had a great session, and I told her I'd come back the next day to see her. When I came back on Saturday night, I made a lap around the bar and she was sitting with a guy in a booth having a drink, so I just winked Hello, and moved along. I was at the bar and she got up from the table to head to the Ladies room, and stopped to tell me not to leave, which was funny to me since I was eyeing a new girl, and I ended up taking this new girl upstairs. End of story I thought. I had been pretty busy with things and had not made a return visit to Tijuana for about a month, so when I dropped back in to AB, I saw her and was very happy to pull her in to a booth for some drinks and a good time, she ends up ragging on me about the girl I had taken up a month ago, she knew her name and wanted to know what we did together, (and I tried not to laugh, what the hell do you think we did upstairs). I kept thinking, this is just a game, what's with the 3rd degree questions?
Funny thing is that I haven't seen her at all this year, like most girls from other cities, she would go home periodically and then return, but I've been a little bummed out that maybe she's not coming back. Like you said, it's just a business, but with her I really do miss it, even with her jealousy quirks.
Baxter Slade
09-12-11, 02:45
I crossed the turnstiles into Tijuana at around 4:30 pm on Thursday. This was going to be a great weekend of football betting and mongering so I thought. My first stop was the temporary Caliente to get my bets in for the NFL opener. Only problem was The Caliente had no power I didn't think much of it and just jumped in a cab to the Ticuan, then I notice traffic is a mess everywhere, and the traffic lights were not working. The cab driver told me he just talked to his wife and there is a major power outage in not only Tijuana but San Diego. Then I started picturing all the problems that lay ahead. Will I be able to even check in with the computers down, no elevators to get to the room, and with the heat no AC, heck thats my favorite turning the room into an ice box.
Without sounding like an advertisement for the Ticuan lets just say, no power all over Tijuana no problem for the Ticuan, I walked in and was greeted by the usual friendly staff and there was electricity all over the hotel. As I was checking in I asked the guy whats going on there is no power anywhere. And he explained they have there own power plant and it doesn't matter about the rest of Tijuana they would be able to supply all the power to the Hotel for at least a year if the power should be out that long.
After checking in I started walking to the Zona most of the stores along the way had closed up checked all the Calientes along the way and couldn't get a bet in. When I got to the Zona the streets were filled with people I guess nobody wanted to be inside with no power. Some clubs seemed to be able to supply there own power and others just had candle light. I found it more entertaining just hanging out on the streets. Cop cars were flying by and the policia were running through the streets chasing somebody I kind of got curious but remembered a previous post about its probably best to just mind your own business.
Even though there was no power the hustle was still going on as usual, you buy drink, you go arriba but I decided to try to find my favorite I hadn't heard from her and I was not sure if she was even still working it did seem like there were less girls in the clubs. I did find her and bought her a few drinks. The power started coming back on and as soon as she was off work we headed off to try to find my amigo / translator to join us at Las Pulgas.
Las Pulgas did not seem to be packed as usual the front foom was kind of empty and we ended up sitting in the back. We ended up getting pretty drunk I don't remember to much but there was some kind of probelm Some dude was trying to get my ATF to come over to him my Amigo stepped in and I missed most of it but security showed up and was escorting the guy out. I guess the guy was pissed that she was hanging with an ugly old gringo.
It was very convenient having Ticuan right next door we were in the room and in bed in no time. For some reason I couldn't sleep all night I was just laying there hung over and feeling like shit. As she was getting ready to leave I took a sleeping pill and when she was about to say good bye I let her know I was going to be staying a couple more days, this was a big moment for me I wasn't sure how she was going to react. I said maybe I can see you again before I go. She was like no you get in the shower and come with me. So next thing I know she is driving me all over doing her errands. One minute she is at her kids school picking something up then she is off to some open air butcher shop and the guy is chopping up pork and there is pieces of meat flying in my face and to add now the sleeping pill is kicking in. But hey this is the side of Tijuana I always wanted to see. So thank god she had to be back to work at 1 pm As she was driving me back to the hotel two thoughts kept popping into my head. How does these chicas do it now she is going to back to work drink those Fichas and fuck dudes and then she is going to want to go out and party. And the other thought was how did Madisonguy last 20 days in this town.
As soon as I got to the room I fell asleep, at about 5 pm the phone started ringing and it was housekeeping wanting to know when to clean the room I said 7 is good. The only problem was I don't think they understood because I got 3 more calls asking the same question. That was the only problem I have ever had at the Ticuan. I headed to the club to meet her when she got off.
We then headed to Valentina's Thank god she had enough drinking she had OJ and I had water and the night ended early.
Guitarrefreak
09-12-11, 03:06
If only I could live that part of your story (w / my favorita of course) , I would die a happy man.
My question to MG is, after seeing him down the tequila shot the way he did, how did he manage to make his way to Tropical, then back to hotel, and still remember the details that went down.
It was very convenient having Ticuan right next door we were in the room and in bed in no time. For some reason I couldn't sleep all night I was just laying there hung over and feeling like shit. As she was getting ready to leave I took a sleeping pill and when she was about to say good bye I let her know I was going to be staying a couple more days, this was a big moment for me I wasn't sure how she was going to react. I said maybe I can see you again before I go. She was like no you get in the shower and come with me. So next thing I know she is driving me all over doing her errands. One minute she is at her kids school picking something up then she is off to some open air butcher shop and the guy is chopping up pork and there is pieces of meat flying in my face and to add now the sleeping pill is kicking in. But hey this is the side of Tijuana I always wanted to see. So thank god she had to be back to work at 1 pm As she was driving me back to the hotel two thoughts kept popping into my head. How does these chicas do it now she is going to back to work drink those Fichas and fuck dudes and then she is going to want to go out and party. And the other thought was how did Madisonguy last 20 days in this town.
MadisonGuy
09-12-11, 06:50
Ha ha Hugo, it took you one night to achieve what I couldn't in two weeks. That is the kind of stories I love, crazy shit that most will find hard to believe especially if they have ventured to other areas in Tijuana and have an idea of what you probably saw during the day. Ticuan did the same thing to me too, at first I tried working during the day and told them they can clean my room and I will just be on my computer but I guess they can't do that for some reason so I just didn't work as much as I had planned. Damn I would've loved to be there with no power and see that stuff, now I feel like I need to go back just to not miss out on that stuff. A Thursday and power outages those girls were probably scrambling to make some money. I'm honestly surprised you gamble over there though, don't they tax your winnings? I gambled one night there and won and when they started taking taxes out I was like screw this shit. I will go to sleep a little happier to know that if the world is coming to an end Ticuan and Las Pulgas still has another year left for my pleasures.
I crossed the turnstiles into Tijuana at around 4:30 pm on Thursday. This was going to be a great weekend of football betting and mongering so I thought. My first stop was the temporary Caliente to get my bets in for the NFL opener. Only problem was The Caliente had no power I didn't think much of it and just jumped in a cab to the Ticuan, then I notice traffic is a mess everywhere, and the traffic lights were not working. The cab driver told me he just talked to his wife and there is a major power outage in not only Tijuana but San Diego. Then I started picturing all the problems that lay ahead. Will I be able to even check in with the computers down, no elevators to get to the room, and with the heat no AC, heck thats my favorite turning the room into an ice box.
Without sounding like an advertisement for the Ticuan lets just say, no power all over Tijuana no problem for the Ticuan, I walked in and was greeted by the usual friendly staff and there was electricity all over the hotel. As I was checking in I asked the guy whats going on there is no power anywhere. And he explained they have there own power plant and it doesn't matter about the rest of Tijuana they would be able to supply all the power to the Hotel for at least a year if the power should be out that long.
After checking in I started walking to the Zona most of the stores along the way had closed up checked all the Calientes along the way and couldn't get a bet in. When I got to the Zona the streets were filled with people I guess nobody wanted to be inside with no power. Some clubs seemed to be able to supply there own power and others just had candle light. I found it more entertaining just hanging out on the streets. Cop cars were flying by and the policia were running through the streets chasing somebody I kind of got curious but remembered a previous post about its probably best to just mind your own business.
Even though there was no power the hustle was still going on as usual, you buy drink, you go arriba but I decided to try to find my favorite I hadn't heard from her and I was not sure if she was even still working it did seem like there were less girls in the clubs. I did find her and bought her a few drinks. The power started coming back on and as soon as she was off work we headed off to try to find my amigo / translator to join us at Las Pulgas.
Las Pulgas did not seem to be packed as usual the front foom was kind of empty and we ended up sitting in the back. We ended up getting pretty drunk I don't remember to much but there was some kind of probelm Some dude was trying to get my ATF to come over to him my Amigo stepped in and I missed most of it but security showed up and was escorting the guy out. I guess the guy was pissed that she was hanging with an ugly old gringo.
It was very convenient having Ticuan right next door we were in the room and in bed in no time. For some reason I couldn't sleep all night I was just laying there hung over and feeling like shit. As she was getting ready to leave I took a sleeping pill and when she was about to say good bye I let her know I was going to be staying a couple more days, this was a big moment for me I wasn't sure how she was going to react. I said maybe I can see you again before I go. She was like no you get in the shower and come with me. So next thing I know she is driving me all over doing her errands. One minute she is at her kids school picking something up then she is off to some open air butcher shop and the guy is chopping up pork and there is pieces of meat flying in my face and to add now the sleeping pill is kicking in. But hey this is the side of Tijuana I always wanted to see. So thank god she had to be back to work at 1 pm As she was driving me back to the hotel two thoughts kept popping into my head. How does these chicas do it now she is going to back to work drink those Fichas and fuck dudes and then she is going to want to go out and party. And the other thought was how did Madisonguy last 20 days in this town.
As soon as I got to the room I fell asleep, at about 5 pm the phone started ringing and it was housekeeping wanting to know when to clean the room I said 7 is good. The only problem was I don't think they understood because I got 3 more calls asking the same question. That was the only problem I have ever had at the Ticuan. I headed to the club to meet her when she got off.
We then headed to Valentina's Thank god she had enough drinking she had OJ and I had water and the night ended early.
Her advice was, in the end, whether a chica likes you or not, if you are taking time away from her work, then you will need to compensate her for it, so that the time she spends with you, she is focused on you only, and not have to worry about hustling with other guys. And to be a gentleman, you will want to pay more than what she typically makes on that night.
Words of wisdom.
Does anyone know how much a average chica would make in a strip club or Zona Norte club on lower traffic nights vs high traffic nights?
What about the average salary of a regular Tijuanan?
Peace.The first part of that pearl of wisdom is correct, the last part is just self-serving bar-girl bullshit (SSBGBS). Whenever you ask a typical BG how much she makes on a night, she'll dredge up the very best night of her life. If she knows you well, you may actually get a straight answer. So, asking a random BG is often useless.
Unless the chica really doesn't like your company, the amount of money, within reason, for an extended period of her company, is usually a lot less than you would think. There are side benifits to hanging with you, besindes money. She can do fun stuff, like movies, dancing, drinking, whatever. She doesn't have to sit on her ass in a crowded, smokey club for 8 hours, listening to the same music over and over. Or, stand for extended periods of time in AB. There may be TV in the hotel room. Whatever. And, you'll be paying the freight for all the entertainment, so that's a great fringe bennie, too.
So, IMHO, the rule of thumb is what is "fair" for the time and place. We are discussing now, in Mexico. Not 5 years back, when things were booming. And not the USA.
So, I can't speak for an Average Tijuanan, but these girls probably don't fit that bill. On average, they have a substandard education, no real job skills other than relatively menial labor. That's not an insult, but they are not doctors or rocket scientists. So, these chicas can't pull down "average" wages. They would probably, if working the bars wasn't an option, wind up working in a tienda, or a maquiladora, or some such.
The minimum wage in a maquiladora is about 50 pesos per DAY. The average, I'm told on good authority, runs about 200 pesos per DAY for a 6-day work week. So, about $100 per WEEK.
My point is, $100 is still a lot of money in Mexico, and the chicas' alternatives to hooking are pretty bleak.
Now, how much does a BG make? You'll never get a straight answer, but we can make a few assumptions. The popular girls, in the popular clubs, do OK. But they are the vast minority. So, with a down economy, in an average club, I would be surprised if an average girl got more than 2 or 3 arribas in a week. It is a buyer's market and there is a LOT of competition. Fichas are the wild card, and a good salesperson, on a busy night, can make some good coin. But there are many more nights where they don't. So, you can do your own math and make your own assumptions.
Anyway, bottom line. For a day / night of her company, I think in the 2K peso range is very fair. As you get more involved, the price should drop. I don't care what they tell you, the odds of her making that in a night are pretty slim. Factor in the other bennies, and it's very fair.
MadisonGuy
09-12-11, 14:08
Now, how much does a BG make? You'll never get a straight answer, but we can make a few assumptions. The popular girls, in the popular clubs, do OK. But they are the vast minority. So, with a down economy, in an average club, I would be surprised if an average girl got more than 2 or 3 arribas in a week. It is a buyer's market and there is a LOT of competition. Fichas are the wild card, and a good salesperson, on a busy night, can make some good coin. But there are many more nights where they don't. So, you can do your own math and make your own assumptions.
Anyway, bottom line. For a day / night of her company, I think in the 2K peso range is very fair. As you get more involved, the price should drop. I don't care what they tell you, the odds of her making that in a night are pretty slim. Factor in the other bennies, and it's very fair.I have to disagree with the 2-3 arribas in a week. Maybe an unattractive girl but not a good looking girl. I HK I've seen them doing atleast that in a night, the daytime girls might be more like 1 a day. I think the same way with money like I think it should be a ton less but unfortunately in the past I have stood firm over $20 difference and kick myself later because I had to pass on something I wanted only to get a SG and not have a great time. There are times where I'm like you're fucking crazy get out of here but where I live you can get a hot chick of craigslist for $100, so there's no way I'm going to pay more than that. I agree they do tell much higher prices than what they really make and do assume their best day but I still think on a Friday or Sat night they will easily pull down $200 or more. Shit I've seen close to that in dollar bills on a stage in one performance.
Guitarrefreak
09-12-11, 15:50
Thanks for all the input.
The BG I was with. She said that she has been telling her guy to pay her $150 and her guy has been paying her $200 so she has been happy.
She say that generally that is about the range and it seems to fit with the below messaging.
I guess it is indeed hard to say exactly what average is. I have seen many girls there whom I can't help but wonder if they have a better chance in the real world working a normal job.
If I really cannot suppress my temptation on my ATF, maybe I will try to buy her time off work and see what happens
Still pondering about getting a Tijuana number. Does anyone know if there is reception here in the US?
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