General Reports

[Artisttyp]

Thanks for all the input.

Still pondering about getting a Tijuana number. Does anyone know if there is reception here in the US?Just buy an unlocked cell phone off of EBAY for a few dollars and get a local SIM from TELCEL (plaza Rio). Bring it when you go to Tijuana. They usually only last six months without refilling your card but that shouldn't matter to you local guys.

There is no reason she can't email you if she's that interested in you. Beware of spelling errors though. I've seen better grammar in mexican sex comics.

[Phordphan]

I have to disagree with the 2-3 arribas in a week. Maybe an unattractive girl but not a good looking girl. I HK I've seen them doing atleast that in a night, the daytime girls might be more like 1 a day. I think the same way with money like I think it should be a ton less but unfortunately in the past I have stood firm over $20 difference and kick myself later because I had to pass on something I wanted only to get a SG and not have a great time. There are times where I'm like you're fucking crazy get out of here but where I live you can get a hot chick of craigslist for $100, so there's no way I'm going to pay more than that. I agree they do tell much higher prices than what they really make and do assume their best day but I still think on a Friday or Sat night they will easily pull down $200 or more. Shit I've seen close to that in dollar bills on a stage in one performance.Your point is well taken. However, those are not average chicas, and HK is not an average club.

HK, since its remodel, has always been pretty busy. The economy certainly had its effect on it, but not to the same extent as other places. And now that things are picking up a bit, HK is busy, especially on the weekends.

But I think HK skews the numbers. The chicas working HK are the minority. Many, many more work in other places. It can be an education to hang at some of the smaller clubs and see what the real world looks like. I still think, if you average all the girls in the zona, you're going to come up with a number a lot closer to 2 or 3 per week, then 1 per day.

[Ramher]

[QUOTE=Super Gato; 1196212]The key to successful hobbying is to remember it a business. Some of the girls can be very sweet, be great in bed, and make it difficult to keep your head straight. I think everyone here has fallen for a girl at least a little, at least once. Like a good salesperson, she's using her feminine charms to get to you and make you a steady customer. But if you remember it is a business, you're better off. There's some girls I love conducting business with.

[QUOTE]I had a similar situation last year with one of my long time favorites. I saw her on a Friday night, we had a great session, and I told her I'd come back the next day to see her. When I came back on Saturday night, I made a lap around the bar and she was sitting with a guy in a booth having a drink, so I just winked Hello, and moved along. I was at the bar and she got up from the table to head to the Ladies room, and stopped to tell me not to leave, which was funny to me since I was eyeing a new girl, and I ended up taking this new girl upstairs. End of story I thought. I had been pretty busy with things and had not made a return visit to Tijuana for about a month, so when I dropped back in to AB, I saw her and was very happy to pull her in to a booth for some drinks and a good time, she ends up ragging on me about the girl I had taken up a month ago, she knew her name and wanted to know what we did together, (and I tried not to laugh, what the hell do you think we did upstairs). I kept thinking, this is just a game, what's with the 3rd degree questions?

Funny thing is that I haven't seen her at all this year, like most girls from other cities, she would go home periodically and then return, but I've been a little bummed out that maybe she's not coming back. Like you said, it's just a business, but with her I really do miss it, even with her jealousy quirks.You have a problem Dude. You are human. They are people too. When they a good, we get greedy and wish we can have more than what we should.

Play safe. Ramher

[Super Gato]

Thanks for all the input.

Still pondering about getting a Tijuana number. Does anyone know if there is reception here in the US?
Just buy an unlocked cell phone off of EBAY for a few dollars and get a local SIM from TELCEL (plaza Rio). Bring it when you go to Tijuana. They usually only last six months without refilling your card but that shouldn't matter to you local guys.

There is no reason she can't email you if she's that interested in you. Beware of spelling errors though. I've seen better grammar in mexican sex comics.When you buy a phone you, make sure it an unlocked GSM phone. Mexico uses the same frequencies as the US for the most part. And if you travel to other countries, you can pop out the Telcel SIM and pop in another carrier's SIM). And remember if an offer on ebay is too good to be true, it is so pass. If everyone sells a basic Nokia dumb phone for $20 and one person is selling it for $2, then don't buy it. You can always buy a cheap phone from Telcel instead of getting an unlocked phone but it will be only useful on Telcel.

Remember when you go to the Telcel office like at Plaza Rio (not an authorized reseller) to but the SIM (or as they're called by Telcel CHIP) you'll need to pay in pesos now and you'll also need to present your passport to register it. The movistar office won't even let me get one of their phones without a CURP (sort of the Mexican equivalent of a SSN). Once you have the SIM you can top it off practically anywhere in Mexico and at several outlets in the US (and online). I usually stop by the Oxxo across the street from Adelita / Hong Kong and buy 100 pesos worth (Oxxo does take dollars) when I'm running low. Some retailers will sell a card to top off the account (call the number on the back and enter the code) , some places will ask you for your phone number and will add your credits via computer in the store. You'll usually receive a text within seconds after the clerk types in the number. Telcel's site says you can top off your account from more than 100, 000 retailers in the US. I'm in Tijuana so often I haven't had to take advantage of that though.

If you buy more than 100 pesos at a time you get "regalo" (gift) pesos that you can use for calls inside Mexico for calls to Mexico). Also, for 100 peso or more recharges, the balance lasts 60 days. If you by less pesos they'll expire after 30 days and no gift time. If you don't recharge by then you lose the balance. If you don't top off the phone in six months, Telcel will take the number away and you'll have to go to their office and buy a new CHIP and start over. After a year of continuous use, you can get things like a frequent number list where you can keep your girlies on standby at much cheaper rates. Most of the gift pesos and other features are only for calls made to Mexican numbers while in Mexico. When you're roaming in the US or elsewhere you're paying premium rates.

The Telcel Amigo phones roam in the United States on AT&T's network so if you live where there's good AT&T service, you're in business. If you live in border towns like San Diego, Mexicali, Nogales, El Paso, etc the your roaming rates are lower than they are farther into the country. The roaming is significantly more and often times it is cheaper for you to use a US cellphone or landline for calling into Mexico. I use my Tijuana number almost always for SMS text messages. They are free to receive even when roaming in the US. I think the roaming rate to reply to texts is 30¢ or so (which is deducted from your regular account and not from your gift account).

In addition to text and voice, you can also have internet access on a daily / weekly / monthly basis for rates much cheaper than you'd pay while roaming on your US carrier in Mexico (15 pesos for 15MB, or $4 for 150MB over 24 hours versus $20 / mb on ATT roaming). What is nice is you can decide on the fly if you need to use the internet by using the Mi Telcel link on the ideas. Telcel portal while in Mexico or by sending an SMS message with what flavor of access you want.

The Telcel website has the exact details but it is all in Spanish (and even if you know the language some of the details are buried). Interestingly enough, if you but a card (ficha) to recharge your account when you call in, you can select English as a language to help you enter the code and consult your balance.

[MadisonGuy]

Your point is well taken. However, those are not average chicas, and HK is not an average club.

HK, since its remodel, has always been pretty busy. The economy certainly had its effect on it, but not to the same extent as other places. And now that things are picking up a bit, HK is busy, especially on the weekends.

But I think HK skews the numbers. The chicas working HK are the minority. Many, many more work in other places. It can be an education to hang at some of the smaller clubs and see what the real world looks like. I still think, if you average all the girls in the zona, you're going to come up with a number a lot closer to 2 or 3 per week, then 1 per day.Yup sorry, I noticed some wording I didn't see after I posted. I'm incredibly picky so average to me is probably the girls that approach me and I feel like I'm in school again and someone with coodies just walked up on me. I really wish they picked up on that vibe sooner as it irritates me. But some guys probably like that, I like to approach the girl when I find one I like. In bars like Playboy or some of the less crowded ones 2-3 a week is probably likely if not less. The massage parlors like Mermaids, New Body they seem to be the busiest. I would imagine any of the girls at New Body go in a room atleast 3 times each day. They usually have line ups about 3 times an hour and unlike me I think most people don't walk away from a line up. If a girl works in Adelitas or HK in the day not past 7 and not on weekends then I could see 2-3 a week also. It baffles me that Mexico is just as ghetto as any third world country in parts if not worse, plenty of people out of work, most people making next to nothing in a day, but yet they are the 2nd fattest country next to the US. I just don't get how half the girls get so damn fat. It's definetely hurting the supply and demand, if every girl was in shape there the sex would be cheaper.

I've yet to hear anyone here that has tried Dubai. Anyone? I heard that's a middle class hang out, unlike Las Pulgas which caters to more of a lower class.

[MadisonGuy]

When you buy a phone you, make sure it an unlocked GSM phone. Mexico uses the same frequencies as the US for the most part. And if you travel to other countries, you can pop out the Telcel SIM and pop in another carrier's SIM). And remember if an offer on ebay is too good to be true, it is so pass. If everyone sells a basic Nokia dumb phone for $20 and one person is selling it for $2, then don't buy it. You can always buy a cheap phone from Telcel instead of getting an unlocked phone but it will be only useful on Telcel.

Remember when you go to the Telcel office like at Plaza Rio (not an authorized reseller) to but the SIM (or as they're called by Telcel CHIP) you'll need to pay in pesos now and you'll also need to present your passport to register it. The movistar office won't even let me get one of their phones without a CURP (sort of the Mexican equivalent of a SSN). Once you have the SIM you can top it off practically anywhere in Mexico and at several outlets in the US (and online). I usually stop by the Oxxo across the street from Adelita / Hong Kong and buy 100 pesos worth (Oxxo does take dollars) when I'm running low. Some retailers will sell a card to top off the account (call the number on the back and enter the code) , some places will ask you for your phone number and will add your credits via computer in the store. You'll usually receive a text within seconds after the clerk types in the number. Telcel's site says you can top off your account from more than 100, 000 retailers in the US. I'm in Tijuana so often I haven't had to take advantage of that though.

If you buy more than 100 pesos at a time you get "regalo" (gift) pesos that you can use for calls inside Mexico for calls to Mexico). Also, for 100 peso or more recharges, the balance lasts 60 days. If you by less pesos they'll expire after 30 days and no gift time. If you don't recharge by then you lose the balance. If you don't top off the phone in six months, Telcel will take the number away and you'll have to go to their office and buy a new CHIP and start over. After a year of continuous use, you can get things like a frequent number list where you can keep your girlies on standby at much cheaper rates. Most of the gift pesos and other features are only for calls made to Mexican numbers while in Mexico. When you're roaming in the US or elsewhere you're paying premium rates.

The Telcel Amigo phones roam in the United States on AT&T's network so if you live where there's good AT&T service, you're in business. If you live in border towns like San Diego, Mexicali, Nogales, El Paso, etc the your roaming rates are lower than they are farther into the country. The roaming is significantly more and often times it is cheaper for you to use a US cellphone or landline for calling into Mexico. I use my Tijuana number almost always for SMS text messages. They are free to receive even when roaming in the US. I think the roaming rate to reply to texts is 30¢ or so (which is deducted from your regular account and not from your gift account).

In addition to text and voice, you can also have internet access on a daily / weekly / monthly basis for rates much cheaper than you'd pay while roaming on your US carrier in Mexico (15 pesos for 15MB, or $4 for 150MB over 24 hours versus $20 / mb on ATT roaming). What is nice is you can decide on the fly if you need to use the internet by using the Mi Telcel link on the ideas. Telcel portal while in Mexico or by sending an SMS message with what flavor of access you want.

The Telcel website has the exact details but it is all in Spanish (and even if you know the language some of the details are buried). Interestingly enough, if you but a card (ficha) to recharge your account when you call in, you can select English as a language to help you enter the code and consult your balance.I don't get anything up near Chicago so I think you have to be within some range to Mexico. Also a couple posts I've seen make it seem as if it's cheaper in Mexico than in the US to text or use phone services. It is way more expensive for me. 100 pesos lasts me about 2 days, I couldn't seem to get on any kind of unlimited plan. If I had a GF like in the US text wise it would cost me around 300 pesos a day because these damn college girls now want to text 100 times a day with smiley faces and bullshit. The cost is one of the main reasons I think you will see some contact breaks, they may just be embarrased that they couldn't afford to charge their phone. The few guys I met that got deported wish they had cricket in Mexico. Ha ha

[Super Gato]

I don't get anything up near Chicago so I think you have to be within some range to Mexico. Also a couple posts I've seen make it seem as if it's cheaper in Mexico than in the US to text or use phone services. It is way more expensive for me. 100 pesos lasts me about 2 days, I couldn't seem to get on any kind of unlimited plan. If I had a GF like in the US text wise it would cost me around 300 pesos a day because these damn college girls now want to text 100 times a day with smiley faces and bullshit. The cost is one of the main reasons I think you will see some contact breaks, they may just be embarrased that they couldn't afford to charge their phone. The few guys I met that got deported wish they had cricket in Mexico. Ha haI haven't been to Chicago with my Telcel phone, but according to the website you can roam with it anywhere in the Estados Unidos where there is AT&T. If your phone has a roaming setting you may need to adjust that for it to lock to the network in Chicago.

Most Mexicans have prepaid cellphone plans and the per text messaging cost aren't cheap. Because Mexico, like many other countries, has caller pays billing, the received messages are free, but it costs you money to send texts (0. 88 pesos (about 6 cents US) each within Mexico). Calls are about 4 pesos a minute. Since most customers are prepaid and the sender pays, the costs are much more. I think if you have a post-paid contract with a cell carrier in Mexico you can get buckets of texts like we have in the US that help the cost go way down (as low as 0. 08 pesos). But most Mexicans can't qualify for credit from the carriers and many of the postpaid plans are only available to foreigners with residency visas or Mexican citizens.

Given Telcel's 80%+ market share of the Mexican market, I don't see unlimited plans for prepaid like we have in the US any time soon.

[Keg]

It baffles me that Mexico is just as ghetto as any third world country in parts if not worse, plenty of people out of work, most people making next to nothing in a day, but yet they are the 2nd fattest country next to the US. I just don't get how half the girls get so damn fat.While there are certainly lower calorie options in mexican cuisine, here are some of the menu culprits:

Burritos, menudo, carnitas, frijoles, guacamole, crema, queso, chorizo, Choco Milk why pan dulce.

(making me hungry).

[Phordphan]

Yup sorry, I noticed some wording I didn't see after I posted. I'm incredibly picky so average to me is probably the girls that approach me and I feel like I'm in school again and someone with coodies just walked up on me. I really wish they picked up on that vibe sooner as it irritates me. But some guys probably like that, I like to approach the girl when I find one I like. In bars like Playboy or some of the less crowded ones 2-3 a week is probably likely if not less. The massage parlors like Mermaids, New Body they seem to be the busiest. I would imagine any of the girls at New Body go in a room atleast 3 times each day. They usually have line ups about 3 times an hour and unlike me I think most people don't walk away from a line up. If a girl works in Adelitas or HK in the day not past 7 and not on weekends then I could see 2-3 a week also. It baffles me that Mexico is just as ghetto as any third world country in parts if not worse, plenty of people out of work, most people making next to nothing in a day, but yet they are the 2nd fattest country next to the US. I just don't get how half the girls get so damn fat. It's definetely hurting the supply and demand, if every girl was in shape there the sex would be cheaper.

I've yet to hear anyone here that has tried Dubai. Anyone? I heard that's a middle class hang out, unlike Las Pulgas which caters to more of a lower class.Ahont know nuffin' about the MP scene. But I suspect they get a lot more local action. Seems discretion is the watchword among the Mexican middle class guys, IMHO.

Just to summarize, concerning my ideas of TLN pay, the chicas' alternative lines of work seem to pay in the $100 per 48 hour week, as near as I can tell. Now, I'm sure the vast majority of the chicas working in the zona make more than that. Otherwise, what's the point? The big question is, how much more? My spidey sense tells me the number is going to be somewhere in the $300 range. Some weeks more, some less. Despite the relatively low amount of money. 300% more than the next available job has got to look pretty attractive. Certainly the hotties in the busy places will get more. The HK girls on the night shift probably do quite well, although they have to put up with a ton more bullshit than at other places. Having strange guys ram their fingers up your ass, for $1, has got to be pretty demeaning. But that's beside the point. I just think that $150-ish, or 50%.100% of a week's pay, for a TLN, is very fair. That's the starting price. After one develops a relationship, and they figure out that you're a nice guy and not an axe murderer, the price ought to drop substantially. Like in the $50. $80 range.

The obesity problem has two parts. The first, of course, is diet. They eat very fatty foods, obviously. The second is genetic. Many of the Indian strains in the southern part of North America have short, round body types. Mix in a women's propensity to gain wait after they start having kids, and you have a sure-fire recipe for chubbiness. Or worse.

[PatmarBeleza1]

What is the basics for Adelitas, HK:

1. Cross the border to McDonal's

2. How to get to the two bars?

3. Time of open, close?

4. How much?

5. Comparison with agencies, like hottijuana, cumintj?

[Guitarrefreak]

Thanks for the detailed walkthrough SG.

What is not immediately clear to me is still:

If I get a telcel prepaid SIM, I can still roam in the US and receive txt messages right?

And it sounds like it won't cost me money to receive, though it will be hella expensive to send.

I just need a sure fire way for my chica to get in touch with me, should she choose.


When you buy a phone you, make sure it an unlocked GSM phone. Mexico uses the same frequencies as the US for the most part. And if you travel to other countries, you can pop out the Telcel SIM and pop in another carrier's SIM). And remember if an offer on ebay is too good to be true, it is so pass. If everyone sells a basic Nokia dumb phone for $20 and one person is selling it for $2, then don't buy it. You can always buy a cheap phone from Telcel instead of getting an unlocked phone but it will be only useful on Telcel.

Remember when you go to the Telcel office like at Plaza Rio (not an authorized reseller) to but the SIM (or as they're called by Telcel CHIP) you'll need to pay in pesos now and you'll also need to present your passport to register it. The movistar office won't even let me get one of their phones without a CURP (sort of the Mexican equivalent of a SSN). Once you have the SIM you can top it off practically anywhere in Mexico and at several outlets in the US (and online). I usually stop by the Oxxo across the street from Adelita / Hong Kong and buy 100 pesos worth (Oxxo does take dollars) when I'm running low. Some retailers will sell a card to top off the account (call the number on the back and enter the code) , some places will ask you for your phone number and will add your credits via computer in the store. You'll usually receive a text within seconds after the clerk types in the number. Telcel's site says you can top off your account from more than 100, 000 retailers in the US. I'm in Tijuana so often I haven't had to take advantage of that though.

If you buy more than 100 pesos at a time you get "regalo" (gift) pesos that you can use for calls inside Mexico for calls to Mexico). Also, for 100 peso or more recharges, the balance lasts 60 days. If you by less pesos they'll expire after 30 days and no gift time. If you don't recharge by then you lose the balance. If you don't top off the phone in six months, Telcel will take the number away and you'll have to go to their office and buy a new CHIP and start over. After a year of continuous use, you can get things like a frequent number list where you can keep your girlies on standby at much cheaper rates. Most of the gift pesos and other features are only for calls made to Mexican numbers while in Mexico. When you're roaming in the US or elsewhere you're paying premium rates.

The Telcel Amigo phones roam in the United States on AT&T's network so if you live where there's good AT&T service, you're in business. If you live in border towns like San Diego, Mexicali, Nogales, El Paso, etc the your roaming rates are lower than they are farther into the country. The roaming is significantly more and often times it is cheaper for you to use a US cellphone or landline for calling into Mexico. I use my Tijuana number almost always for SMS text messages. They are free to receive even when roaming in the US. I think the roaming rate to reply to texts is 30¢ or so (which is deducted from your regular account and not from your gift account).

In addition to text and voice, you can also have internet access on a daily / weekly / monthly basis for rates much cheaper than you'd pay while roaming on your US carrier in Mexico (15 pesos for 15MB, or $4 for 150MB over 24 hours versus $20 / mb on ATT roaming). What is nice is you can decide on the fly if you need to use the internet by using the Mi Telcel link on the ideas. Telcel portal while in Mexico or by sending an SMS message with what flavor of access you want.

The Telcel website has the exact details but it is all in Spanish (and even if you know the language some of the details are buried). Interestingly enough, if you but a card (ficha) to recharge your account when you call in, you can select English as a language to help you enter the code and consult your balance.

[Baxter Slade]

I thought about it and the girls that were close to girlfriends that I met in hooking all had one thing in common. I didn't sleep with them right away. It always worked out that I already screwed a girl and then I met them, and I think that I didn't want to sleep with them but wanted to hang out with them was odd and for whatever reason they liked it. .Hey Guitar and anyone else like me, who just decided they wanted a bit of a relationship with a chica. What MadisonGuy said could be a very important statement. When you do find that girl you click with put on the brakes as soon as you take her arriba you have crossed the line, then you just become another customer. Point 2 Madison, You said I acomplished in one day what you couldn't in the whole time you were there. Thats false if you were to go back and read old reports I saw her for many months and never crossed that line and it worked and now it is paying dividends. I do understand most of the fellows on here think it is ridiculous to even want anything other than sex from these girls but everyone is different and to each his own.

As far as the jealousy thing Super Gato is right on its not jealousy its all about business and maintaining your customers. Getting back to the car salesman analogy. Remember as aggressive as car salseman are they have alot of rules they have to follow. When a customer hits the lot they can't all pounce on you they have to rotate. And if the customer is returning and they have already dealt with them that is there customer. Now imagine putting 50 car salesman in the same room and taking away the rules. Then add to the equation they have to sell themselves in order to make a sale. Can you imagine that kind of enviroment, thats what these ladies face everyday they hit the clubs. The time I spent with my ATF this weekend she was complaining about all the stress she faces everyday at work. I never really thought of the clubs as high stress situations for the ladies, but I guess they are.

I would like to get back to part 2 of my T / R but it has been a little tense around here, since I got back wifey keeps imagining there are hickies on my neck. To quote Dennis Rodman when he got caught with 2 ladies in his bed." What ladies" So I say "what Hickies"

[Guitarrefreak]

I did cross the line already, and maybe I shouldn't have, but then, those girls do know that sex is on the guy's mind anyway don't there?
And given that I have already crossed the line, may as well just continue, no turning back.

Just playing devil's advocate here.

Regarding the hickie, yeah what hickie, actually my gf caught me once, and she was pissed off for a while.


Hey Guitar and anyone else like me, who just decided they wanted a bit of a relationship with a chica. What MadisonGuy said could be a very important statement. When you do find that girl you click with put on the brakes as soon as you take her arriba you have crossed the line, then you just become another customer. Point 2 Madison, You said I acomplished in one day what you couldn't in the whole time you were there. Thats false if you were to go back and read old reports I saw her for many months and never crossed that line and it worked and now it is paying dividends. I do understand most of the fellows on here think it is ridiculous to even want anything other than sex from these girls but everyone is different and to each his own.

As far as the jealousy thing Super Gato is right on its not jealousy its all about business and maintaining your customers. Getting back to the car salesman analogy. Remember as aggressive as car salseman are they have alot of rules they have to follow. When a customer hits the lot they can't all pounce on you they have to rotate. And if the customer is returning and they have already dealt with them that is there customer. Now imagine putting 50 car salesman in the same room and taking away the rules. Then add to the equation they have to sell themselves in order to make a sale. Can you imagine that kind of enviroment, thats what these ladies face everyday they hit the clubs. The time I spent with my ATF this weekend she was complaining about all the stress she faces everyday at work. I never really thought of the clubs as high stress situations for the ladies, but I guess they are.

I would like to get back to part 2 of my T / R but it has been a little tense around here, since I got back wifey keeps imagining there are hickies on my neck. To quote Dennis Rodman when he got caught with 2 ladies in his bed." What ladies" So I say "what Hickies"

[Joe Arturo]

I have done this several times in Mexicali and Tijuana. First you need to get to know the young lady with a few conversations and trips to the upstairs bedroom. Once this happens and they trust you, it is pretty easy to pull off. I either do it with one that works the afternoon shift and it begins when they get off of work or I do it with them on their night off. Waiting until 3 AM or later for the late shift gal to get off of work doesn't really work for me.

They usually spend 12 to 18 hours with me. We go to dinner, dancing, play cards and watch TV in the room. And a lot of chit chat. I speak Spanish very well so it is easy to chit chat.

I usually give them a gift of $200 "to help them with their expenses" and have never had a complaint and have never been turned down for another TLN after the $200.

PLEASE DO NOT MAKE THE MISTAKE THAT I HAVE MADE MORE TIMES THAN I WANT TO ADMIT. DO NOT FALL FOR THEM. YOU WILL ONLY END UP WITH A BROKEN HEART IF YOU DO!

[Joe Arturo]

I have been using a Telcel phone in Mexicali and Tijuana for many years. I have never bought one in Tijuana, but have in Mexicali. The cheapest that I have found them in Mexicali is at the Oxxo stores. They sell them for between 500 and 1200 pesos depending on the bells and whistles (camera, music, etc) and it comes with 300 pesos of free prepaid credit. Once you purchase the phone you need to take it to a Telcel office (not an agency) and register it with your passport, etc. The Mexicans can register it over the phone, but non citizens need to do so at the Telcel office with passport identification. I don't use it in the United States as I have the Verizon Nationwide plus Mexico plan, which saves me about $200 per month as there are no long distance charges for calls from Mexico to US nor for calls from US to Mexico and there are no roaming charges when I am in Mexico. It has worked out very well for me over the years.

[Guitarrefreak]

I truly believe a broken heart makes a man stronger.

Nah dude, I get what you mean, I truly fell for a girl while I was away in China, she works at a foot massage place and she was awesome at it.

She used to come to my room every night, and buy me snacks, never took money from me, and even when I was sick, she brought herbal drink, after her work ends at 3am.

I actually shed tears for her before but eventually, things were not meant to be.

Oh wait, I think in that story, both hearts got broken.

Maybe the fucked up part of me wants feel heart broken for this Tijuana chica.


PLEASE DO NOT MAKE THE MISTAKE THAT I HAVE MADE MORE TIMES THAN I WANT TO ADMIT. DO NOT FALL FOR THEM. YOU WILL ONLY END UP WITH A BROKEN HEART IF YOU DO!

[SuperSteve]

Just the opinion of an old man so it is not necessarily fact.

All a broken heart did for me was make me callous, so for what I now desire from women, I guess it did make me stronger.

To me, working ladies are like renting cars. Why get the same one every time if you are paying for it? They certainly can, and do, get jealous. It is not only about the money, although without the money there would be no initial connection (I'm a fat, old, fart). I have been fortunate (cursed?) all my life in being able to connect with women. Yesterday I had a VGL Vietnamese lady at an AMP give me her cell number and ask me to call her. I am over twice (3 times?) her age. She said I was fun, even though it was only a R&T. My current favorita in Tijuana says I make her happy. When I leave the club, she makes mention of me sessioning in another club. I just smile, give her a kiss on the cheek, and tell her she will be my favorita no matter what happens.

Do not let this lady see you as stressing because she did not answer your text, call, whatever. Even if you are dying inside put on the happy face, laugh, and make her happy for the time you are with her. It will confuse her, you will become unique (not like all her other FWB's) , and make her want you even more. Women want strong men. Lady's of the night, especially, already have enough weak men in their lives, do not become another one. If she perceives you as weak you are history, and will be put in line with the others.

Women, no matter what their position in life, want a strong man that can take charge, but still be sensitive to their needs. With women each has different needs, both mentally and physically. Find out what hers are and fulfill them as much as she requires them. If her needs get to be too much for your needs, adios.

One of my favorite songs is "Tough & Tender" by Rod Piazza. He says in the song if you want to find the way to a woman's heart, be tough & tender. I believe this to be true.

My only real advice is, do not spend more money than you can afford to lose.

Health & happiness to all.

[MadisonGuy]

Yeah Supersteve I think you got it. Fortunately for you those experiences you had made you stronger. I know way too many guys that just stay the same IMO weak pathetic dudes falling in love with the first hot piece of ass that shakes her tail in front of him. I used to be that way and wish it didn't take me so much time to get over my first couple of girlfriends which ate up time to start dating other ones. I definetely am a fan of making a hooker your girlfriend, as long as you know that the only reason you are doing it is to lower costs. I think a lot of guys get confused and get in a fuzzy grey area, they say one thing but feel another. In fact I get more pissed if a stranger / escort does not make it for an appointment than I would if I was doing shit all day with a girl and she seemed to be very into me and I was into her and she didn't show up for the next meeting, because once that attraction takes place my mind says alright now cut off all expectations. If you expect something from these girls, pretty much any female in general, you will always be let down. Women are moody, jealous, psychotic creatures, it's just who they are. And unfortunately per books I've read the more reasonable and calm you are the more you will want some psycho ***** in your life that creates tons of drama.

[Keg]

What is the basics for Adelitas, HK:

1. Cross the border to McDonal's

2. How to get to the two bars?

3. Time of open, close?

4. How much?

5. Comparison with agencies, like hottijuana, cumintj?From the Tram Station next to McDonalds cross the street to the new pedestrian bridge that crosses over the freeway, and follow off the bridge south to the border turnstile, pass through and continue walking to the second set of turnstiles, pass through and keep walking straight towards the taxi stand. Get a Yellow Taxi to Adelitas, both AB and HK are on the same street, the Yellow Cab will drop off in front of AB. The bars are open all day and all night, they do close in the mornings for clean up of course, but are essentially opened all day and night. There is not a charge to get in to AB, but HK does have an entrance fee on weekend nights because it gets crowded and they know they can charge, it's basically a $4 beer purchase is the entry fee.

These bars do not compare to the agencies, they're apples and oranges obviously. To each his own.

Have fun.

[SuperSteve]

In relationships, the one that cares the most loses.

Many men have never been with a lady as beautiful as what they can get in P4P. To them it is like a drug. Just like a drug, it will never be better than the first time. Just remember no matter how good looking she is, some guy is tired of putting up with her sh*t.

I have been very lucky all my life, in all ways, but especially with women. I have phucked the hottest of the hot, to the moped's (you know the ones you don't want to be seen riding). I will say that IMO the most insecure have been the hottest. Hot women, especially in P4P are like buses, there will be another one by in ten minutes, or less. Be who you are, and if she doesn't like it, try the next bus that comes by, you will finally reach your destination.

It is like sales, you need to get the No's out of the way to get to the yes. In my 20's I had a job where I could take off for months at a time. Well since I lived near the beach, it was always during the summer. I would go to the beach and actually ask women to get naked with me until one said yes. My rate of return was never really great, maybe one out of ten. I found that being told no never really hurt, and made some nice acquaintances, that I would introduce to my friends. I always found a minimum of one a day though. No means nothing except not right now. Give it your best shot, and if doesn't work, give it again with someone else, until it does. You will not be happy unless you are being who you really are.

I will be in town again this weekend winging with a newbie to Tijuana. I'll see if I can finally get it right!

Health & Happiness to all.

[Rohan Cid]

I'm having trouble understanding why so many people would take a taxi to the zona rather than simply walk there. Personally, I think walking there is better as long as you know where you are going and how you are getting there. Just my 0. 02.

[Super Gato]

Thanks for the detailed walkthrough SG.

What is not immediately clear to me is still:

If I get a telcel prepaid SIM, I can still roam in the US and receive txt messages right?

And it sounds like it won't cost me money to receive, though it will be hella expensive to send.

I just need a sure fire way for my chica to get in touch with me, should she choose.My Telcel phone roams in the US just fine. Incoming texts are free (incoming MMS picture messages cost money). Sending SMS is 35¢ which is more expensive than the 25¢ I pay on my current US-based cellphone for international texts, but it could be worse. On my US cellphone within Mexico and roaming, they charge 50¢ when I'm in Mexico.

Also, remember the girl texting you will be charged as a local text (if she's on Telcel and has a number in the same zone as you, calling / texting people on other networks costs more and she can't use gift credits to text American phone numbers) so it will be cheaper for her to respond than a text to the US (SMS to the US from Mexico is relatively cheap, maybe 1. 50 pesos versus the 0. 88 pesos, but if you're a girl recharging your account in 20 peso increments, that adds up). Those prices are for girls with Telcel and a 664 phone number. In the interior the IVA is higher so the costs are slightly higher.

The only other thing to remember is you will need to top off the account or Telcel will suspend your line when your credits expire. It isn't a big deal to hit Oxxo or another store when you're in Tijuana to buy more time (100+ peso refills will last 60 days, lower denominations expire after 30 days, you leave your account with a zero balance for six months and Telcel closes the account). The little mom and pop convenience store across the street from me in the US can recharge my account instantly as well. Telcel's site claims there are 100, 000+ stores in the US that will. So unless you've decided not to keep the number or can't find $8 to keep the number alive another 2 months, there's little reason to let it lapse.

Telcel has a service that costs 100 pesos a month on its website called Amigo BIP which promises to allow you to send / receive unlimited texts via your computer anywhere in the world. Right now I don't consume that many texts a month (and most of my frequent texting is done from my Telcel phone when I'm in Mexico and so using a computer. Or paying more to use internet on my phone. Isn't practical) so I haven't played with it.

The costs will never be dirt cheap because we're dealing with cellphone carriers such as Telcel (Carlo Slim didn't get to be the one of the richest dudes on the planet from giving away phone service) and AT&T roaming in the US.

[Joe Arturo]

Jimmy Buffet said "If it floats, flies or phucks. RENT IT!"

[Artisttyp]

I'm having trouble understanding why so many people would take a taxi to the zona rather than simply walk there. Personally, I think walking there is better as long as you know where you are going and how you are getting there. Just my 0. 02.Some people aren't comfortable with crossing the bridge over Rio Tijuana that leads to El Centro. The daytime can still be pretty sketchy and desolate. One minute you see a homeless guy down below asking you for a cigarette and the next minute he's up on the bridge next to you. These are all drug addicts and polleros (illegal crossers) that have nothing to lose.

Be careful on that bridge day or night. I walk it but I'd be lying if I said I was never concerned for my safety.

[Keg]

I'm having trouble understanding why so many people would take a taxi to the zona rather than simply walk there. Personally, I think walking there is better as long as you know where you are going and how you are getting there. Just my 0. 02.Dude, if a first-timer is asking for directions, isn't it easier just to direct them to the taxi stand? As you stated in your post,"walking is better as long as you know where you are going", but then you don't post the walking directions for the newbie.

[FlapJacK]

I'm having trouble understanding why so many people would take a taxi to the zona rather than simply walk there. Personally, I think walking there is better as long as you know where you are going and how you are getting there. Just my 0. 02.I normally walk as well but I also know my way very well and usually arrive while its still daylight. If after dark then I would rather not walk alone and will take a taxi. I don't recommend that someone going for the first time walk to the Zona.

[ClamSlammer]

My Telcel phone roams in the US just fine. Incoming texts are free (incoming MMS picture messages cost money). Sending SMS is 35¢ which is more expensive than the 25¢ I pay on my current US-based cellphone for international texts, but it could be worse.You sure incoming texts are free with a Telcel phone roaming in USA? Doesn't make sense to me that Telcel and AT&T would just provide you incoming text service at no charge. Certainly the normal $.08 charge per text would still apply, correct? And no roaming fee?

BTW I found this website that you can use to anonymously send texts anywhere in the world for free. No registeration, no sign-up, no fees. I tested it and it does work, but not 100% reliable. If you guys want info PM me.

[Baxter Slade]

I left off it was Friday night and after an early evening of not drinking I was able to convince my ATF to spend the night with me. When I woke up Saturday morning I took my phone into the bathroom to study the translation that Cobrotha was nice enough to provide for " Can we meet later". However before I could get the words out of my mouth she hits me with " Honey no Trabajo today what do you want to do? I was planning on watching college football games at Caliente but somehow I don't think that is what she had in mind. Now I know the chicas are quite different than the American woman but somehow I didn't think she would want to spend the day watching football so in that respect they probably are the same as an American woman. I remember Madison talking about Rosarito and horseback riding so I said how about we drive to Rosarito. She kept saying popola or something like that wasn't sure what she was saying I just said ok.

She says first she had to feed the babies and change clothes. She is always calling home and checking in and she seems obsessed with feeding the babies. By the way the babies are not babies we are talking like 12 to 18 years old. So after driving through Tijuana for awhile she pulls up to some little market and starts beeping her horn, she yells something in Spanish and pretty soon a little boy maybe around 7 comes running out with bags of food she pays and tips the kid and we are off. Next stop she pulls up to a half taco cart half restaurant. She takes me over to a table and says wait here 20 minutes and she will be back I guess she dosen't want me to meet the babies. The people there were extremly friendly I just had a water but after a bit they talked me into a shrimp taco. I guess it doesn't matter where you are in Tijuana the food is outstanding.

Well she showed up right on time, of course Iam thinking what if she dosen't come back I have no clue where I. Am and not a taxi in sight. But anyway it was off to Rosarito we drove through the town I saw Rosarito Beach Hotel I said we go here, and she says no popola popola. Not sure what she is saying but we end up at this narrow dirt rode and she turns in there are all these guys trying to flag us down I don't know what they wanted but she keeps driving. Finally she talks to some guy and he directs us to a parking spot. This appears to be some sort of fishing village, there are a bunch of restraunts and then a hill going down to the beach. On the beach there are fisherman with stands selling all kinds of fresh fish, she seems pretty interested in the fish checking each stand out (By know I know whats going through her mind, food for the babies). We eventually take a walk down the beach climb the rocks and take some pictures. I tell her to wade out into the water and go set on the rocks and I will be able to take a nice picture of her and the ocean. When she gets on the rocks I wanted to wait for the right moment when there would be some water splashing against the rocks to take the picture. It was funny insead a huge wave comes up behind her and she ends up getting drenched. She thinks I set her up and acts like she is mad and tries to throw me in the water. As we walk back to the fish stands I see her start laughing and pointing at something. It was a beach volleyball game the funny thing was there was no net it was two guys [human poles] holding up a rope. Now it dosen't sound so funny I guess you would have had to have been there. I bought her some sun glasses and she ended up buying about 10 pounds of fish for the babies next day meal.

We through the fish in her trunk and ended up in a restraunt right overlooking the ocean. It was pretty romantic exept for the numerous soliciters that kept coming to the table every 5 minutes trying to sell us something, she did end up buying somekind of stuffed bread things [for the babies]. Besides the soliciters there was this sea gull that just sat inches away from her on the ledge and she just kept feeding him chips she then put some lettuce by him and he started shaking his head no and wouldn't touch it, she couldn't stop laughing. All and all it was probably the best date I have ever been on even including civilians.

We ended up heading back to Tijuana around 6 and of course after spending such a great day with her you can probably guess where the conversation was headed. So in a round about way I asked so how many guys did you fuck yesterday. She got a big smile on her face and she says ohhh you yellous. Then she took a moment and got real serious she said you don't understand its my work I have to feed the babies theres no spouso if I don't work they don't eat. She said me no gusta sexo in the bar but we need the money.

So then she got a call from her friend and she made some kind of plan to meet her friend in the Zona when her friend was done with work. She said we go Valentina ok. I said what about the fish don't you have to get them to the casa. She said no no problem. One thing I learned even with the language barrier, when you take away the loud club music it is easier to communicate.

We ended up at Valentina Bar. On a side note Valentina Bar might be a good place to hit up while in the zona looking for off duty chicas with no novios. After a couple buckets there I was informed we were going to a birthday party. For a guy who was always afraid to step foot outside the zona now the more adventure the better. One thing I noticed when leaving Valentina was is it my imagination or the street girls were really looking hot hotter than the bar girls.

So after driving through Tijuana for awhile, nobody was really sure where we were going they kept calling trying to get directions as we drove. We pull up to some small apartments or houses and someone comes out to get us there is a small party going on about 12 people sitting around and a few babies. I must say it was my first time entering someones house in Tijuana and right away you could feel the hospitality people I didn't know hugging me and offering beer and food. We sat around for about an hour and my chica seemed really bored. Finally said good bye and we were all ready to call it a night. It was hard getting a cab since there was no traffic on this street but eventually we made it back to the hotel. I didn't even have to talk her into staying she headed right to the room no questions asked but she did make it clear she would have to leave early in the morning to go feed the babies.

The next morning I walked her to her car she wanted me to drive it out of the parking garage for her. It didn't take long we were about 10 feet from the car when we were hit with strong odor of fish. But she said no problem pescada still good. OK I hope no one got sick.

We said our good byes and as I was walking back to the Hotel I did that look back thing, damn she wasn't looking oh well but it was one hell of a good weekend in Tijuana.

I headed back to the Border around 10 a. M. About an hour wait wasn't sure what to expect because it was 9/11 everything seemed pretty normal however there did seem to be more CBP guys standing around carrying big guns.

[Super Gato]

You sure incoming texts are free with a Telcel phone roaming in USA? Doesn't make sense to me that Telcel and AT&T would just provide you incoming text service at no charge. Certainly the normal $.08 charge per text would still apply, correct? And no roaming fee?

BTW I found this website that you can use to anonymously send texts anywhere in the world for free. No registeration, no sign-up, no fees. I tested it and it does work, but not 100% reliable. If you guys want info PM me.I don't get charged for receiving texts while in the US with my Telcel phone. There is no roaming fee for texts. There is, of course, a significantly higher per minute roaming charge for voice: It is US$0. 35 for Telcel customers to call within the US while roaming in the US, and US$1. 16 to call back to Mexico (incoming calls are billed at US$0. 93 no matter where they're from). Telcel does offer packages for discounted voice (and buckets of SMS (US$9. 00 for a whopping 40 texts. A savings of $5 over buying a la carte)

From.

http://www.telcel.com/portal/personas/roaming/llamadas_sms.html

:

Zona de cobertura Mensaje: Estados Unidos, Canadá, América Latina why Caribe.

Enviado Mensaje: $0. 34

Recibido: Sin costo.

[Colbrotha]

I definitely am a fan of making a hooker your girlfriend, as long as you know that the only reason you are doing it is to lower costs.

Because once that attraction takes place my mind says alright now cut off all expectations. Women are moody, jealous, psychotic creatures, it's just who they are. The more reasonable and calm you are the more you will want some psycho * in your life that creates tons of drama.-WOW. Mofos' kickin knowledge. I had a triangle thang with a non pro once, that in retrospect, seems oh so Madisonguyesque. I thought maybe it was just that whole "I guess I just attract psychos" that whole "opposites attract" kinda bullshit. You know how the record scratches, constant hangups at my work for the last few months, lies, manipulates, quasi abortions. 3 month late apologies, etc. Maybe subconsciously it spices up my life, it could very well be the case. I might have to check myself.

Supersteve: "Women, no matter what their position in life, want a strong man that can take charge, but still be sensitive to their needs. With women each has different needs, both mentally and physically.

-Tough, tricky balance for us men. Too NICE or WEAK and your history. I have always ventured in my endeavors to put myself in a position to help them one way or the other be it with pros / non pros. Kinda sorta like needing to show them that all men aren't hijueputas. WE have better lives than them PERIOD; we collectively haven't been to hell and back like they have. I have always followed the medical motto behind encounters with pros / semi pros,"Do no harm". If nothing else, I like to help in the OTHER dept, where money means nothing, and time is of the essence, be it with a 24K conversation.

They certainly can, and do, get jealous. It is not only about the money, although without the money there would be no initial connection.

Even if you are dying inside put on the happy face, laugh, and make her happy for the time you are with her.

It will confuse her, you will become unique (not like all her other FWB's) , and make her want you even more. Women want strong men. Lady's of the night, especially, already have enough weak men in their lives, do not become another one. If she perceives you as weak you are history, and will be put in line with the others".

I'm glad somebody else said it.

Joe Arturo: PLEASE DO NOT MAKE THE MISTAKE THAT I HAVE MADE MORE TIMES THAN I WANT TO ADMIT. DO NOT FALL FOR THEM. YOU WILL ONLY END UP WITH A BROKEN HEART IF YOU DO! Words of wisdom, no doubt.

[Colbrotha]

In relationships, the one that cares the most loses.

Many men have never been with a lady as beautiful as what they can get in P4P. To them it is like a drug. Just like a drug, it will never be better than the first time. Just remember no matter how good looking she is, some guy is tired of putting up with her sh*t.

No means nothing except not right now.Word up to SuperSteve. Your last posts are worthy in my opinion of being reports of distinction. I'm sure some men go to pros because they haven't pulled anyone that hot before. I, myself, like to follow a combination of Charlie Sheen ("You pay them to leave, not to stay") and Madisonguy ("If you want them as gf, at least you will be lowering your costs with zero expectations) as an ideal with a loose margin for error. You couldn't be more right about that ATF in XYZ club and how some dude is tired of hitting that, I. E Richard Gere / Cindy Crawford and the dirty working girl gerbels.

I think if we (mongers / semi-mongers / non-mongers) understood the multiple meanings of NO to a women, everyone would do a lot better in the game. Let's face it, No doesn't always mean no, and other girl talk like Fine means anything but. Peace

[Phordphan]

Checked into Ticuan around 3:30 on Saturday. (Note to self: Idiot, doble means two beds, NOT two people). Amy showed up about 10 minutes later.

First time to see her outside of the club. Actually, the first time we met was in the club, and we didn't go arriba. But we hit it off, and she was happy to meet outside of working hours. Actually, Saturday was working hours, but she opted to take the day off.

Now, in natural light, her complexion wasn't as nice as it looked in the club, and she was a big chubbier than her evening gown style of club wear indicated. But, no complaints. Her smile and bubbly personality more than made up for it.

After unpacking, we opted for a movie and early dinner. I let her make all the decisions. So we cabbed over to Plaza Rio. While walking she opted for Califonia Buffet. Now I do NOT recommend this joint to anybody. At least the buffet. Except for the guy making fresh quesadillas, the food was incredibly average, and cold. To make matters worse, the bill came to a shocking 400 pesos for two. She was surprised and asked the cashier. We were told that the normal 100 peso price was weekdays only. Arrgh. Live and learn.

We opted for the VIP, and had to hang around for a couple of hours. Of course, when I went to buy the tix, the damn thing was in 3D. I hate 3D. But, I like the VIP, Hadn't been in before. Very comfortable.

We cabbed back to the hotel so I could change. But, during changing, one thing led to another, and we wound up en cama. Nice B-cups, luscious nips. I won't bore everybody with the details, but I opted to wait until later. Biiig mistake, but I didn't know it at the time.

After plenty of pillow talk, joking, etc, etc, we decided to go clubbing. So, back on go the clothes. She had the foresight to bring one of those neat-o stretchy dresses that just cover the ass, and some nice high heels. You got to love the way the Mexican chicas dress up to party.

Well, the old days are gone. Back in the day, Revu was packed with rowdy gringos partying until 4:00am. Then the recession and drug violence occurred, and it was a ghost town. Dark, gloomy and deserted. Now it's packed with locals all partying until 5:00am. Which I think is a great thing.

So, she likes the clubs up and down Calle 6. Off we go. First stop, Circo. 50 peso cover, but you get 1 beer. 3 floors of nothing but kids and ultra-loud techno. It's about 11 and it's packed. Awfully young crowd. She calls it the "Baby Bar." After 2 cervezas we blow the joint.

Next stop, La Ferreteria. Much better atmosphere, better music. Mix of American and Spanish stuff. But it was nuts to butts. So effing crowded that we tried to get a drink 3 times and couldn't. So, after about 30 minutes we split. But, it's a fun place and I recommend it.

Next stop, La Soltana, across the street. Now if I thought La Ferreteria was crowded, well, I ain't seen nuthin. Sardines have more room. I gues because I'm an older, distinguished gentleman, squiring a 20-something, (LOL) a kindly waiter nabbed us and told us to wait. After what seemed like about 10 minutes he came back and found us. He'd found a spot clear in the back with a table along some banquettes. Just enough room for us to sit and get a cubeta. 6 Coronas for 150 pesos, I think. Mas o menos. 100% Mexican tunes, loud volume, and all the chicas are gettin' down! Standing on the banquettes, grabbing the walls and shaking their asses for all they were worth. Now, despite my advanced age, I can still get down with the best of 'them, so I had a great time, as did my Senorita. Did I mention this place was hot? I mean temperature-wise. Steaming. Sauna. Everybody had sweat pouring off of them. They finally turned the a / see on, and it became slightly more bearable. But by the time we were finished, we were literally drenched in sweat. After the beers were finished, that's when the trouble started. She orders what sounds to me like a coke. It looked like a coke, but tasted funny. And I thought 70 pesos was kinda steep for a coke. But I was too busy, and it was so loud I just let it go. I found out later that it was vodka and coke. Had I known that, I think I would have had her slow down a bit. So far, that's 5 beers and a vodka.

Next, at about 2:30, we stagger out of Soltana and make our way back to Revu. We duck into a little joint called San Diablo, where I take a leak and she orders something I don't catch. I just ask for lo mismo. The drinks come, and it's mostly cranberry juice. WTF? 70 pesos each? And I think I got shortchanged with the coins in the tray ruse. No biggie. But the place then closes down at 3, so we have to drink up and hit the street.

On the street, she's walking rather unsteadily. I thought it was her shoes. Then I find out that the last two drinks were vodkas. On top of 5 beers. In about 4 hours, give or take. My lady is shitfaced. Oh-oh!

We walk back up Revu, get a hot dog to go. I ask her to sit on the bench for a minute and get some air, but she tells me she does not want to vomit in public. Shades of my long night of drinking with Maythe years ago, where she ralphed all over the floor of our room at the Nelson. So, up to the room where she undresses and crawls into bed. Despite my best efforts, sexo was definitely off the menu that night. Damn! Next time, screw before party. I guess it could have been worse. She could have agreed, and then puked all over me. That would be a real buzzkill.

I crawled off to my own bed (I will never make that stupid mistake again) and fell sound asleep. In the morning, a crawled in next to her and dozed off and on until the phone rang. WTF? 12:45 already? No, I don't want to pay for another night. Yes, we'll be down right away.

We shower, pack, dress. I give her the remainder of my pesos. 1,900. She doesn't even count it, just puts it into her purse. I check out and we stroll over to Ricardo's for a nice breakfast. Much better than Sanborn's, IMHO. Then we strolled up and down Revu, stopped into some joint near the stage on Primero and had soemthing to drink. Then, about 2:30, I walked her to the proper Economico stand for her trip home. Then I hoofed it to the border. The line was pretty short at 3:00 on a Sunday, about 30 minutes was my guess. But I now have my SENTRI, and I was through in no time. Cool.

We exchanged a couple of text messages that evening and the next day. We'll probably give it another shot the next time I can get down to Tijuana.

So, it was a mixed bag. Lots of fun with a sweet, good personality chica who enjoys hand holding and cuddling. Not a lot in the way of sexo, but that's partially my own fault. I will say that this is only the second time, ever, that I got a BG so drunk she couldn't screw. Maybe she hasn't been doing this as long as I thought.

But I'm really happy to see that Revu is now what it once was. A great party hangout. Maybe no longer gringo-centric, but still a great deal of fun. A good time was had by all, and I can't wait to do it again.

[MadisonGuy]

I crawled off to my own bed (I will never make that stupid mistake again) and fell sound asleep. In the morning, a crawled in next to her and dozed off and on until the phone rang. WTF? 12:45 already? No, I don't want to pay for another night. Yes, we'll be down right away.Nice report. I hate that hotels in general boot you out so early, I stayed in Ticuan for like 2 weeks and I don't think there was a single night they had over 75% occupancy, but you can't stay past 1 or the place will crumble, every other hotel is the same though and it's annoying. I have to say if there was a passed out girl in my bed I couldn't resist especially in your situation but maybe it will pay off. It sounds like she didn't mention money at all, did you ever think about not paying her? Probably best you did, I didn't pay one girl who came to dance with me at las pulgas but we didn't have sex so I felt like paying her to hang out was kind of ridiculous because it's not hard to find a girl to dance with you at Las Pulgas. I didn't hear from her again. Ha ha. I tried that Ricardos after recommendation from cabbie and I didn't like it, the fish tasted really fishy. Sanborns is a little too bland but I still like it, I just wish they spiced things up a bit. Thanks for the great report, for us far away guys who can't go when we want we appreciate it.

[Phordphan]

nice report. i hate that hotels in general boot you out so early, i stayed in ticuan for like 2 weeks and i don't think there was a single night they had over 75% occupancy, but you can't stay past 1 or the place will crumble, every other hotel is the same though and it's annoying. i have to say if there was a passed out girl in my bed i couldn't resist especially in your situation but maybe it will pay off. it sounds like she didn't mention money at all, did you ever think about not paying her? probably best you did, i didn't pay one girl who came to dance with me at las pulgas but we didn't have sex so i felt like paying her to hang out was kind of ridiculous because it's not hard to find a girl to dance with you at las pulgas. i didn't hear from her again. ha ha. i tried that ricardos after recommendation from cabbie and i didn't like it, the fish tasted really fishy. sanborns is a little too bland but i still like it, i just wish they spiced things up a bit. thanks for the great report, for us far away guys who can't go when we want we appreciate it.come to think of it, there was a third time with an ex-fave. we'd been out until the wee hours, she came out of the shower, hopped into bed and immediately passed out and began to snore. lol. just like the scene from animal house, one side said to leave her alone, the other side said to fuck the shit out of her. i began, and her body started to respond. but it felt waaaaay too much like [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), and i stopped. the next day she told me she remembered nothing except the she walked into the room. next thing she remembered was waking up nude. lol.

amy mentioned money in a previous text, while we were arranging a meet. she agreed to meet on a saturday, and i was surprised and asked if she had to work. she just said "your money for me." no amount, or anything. so, as she was taking time off of work, it was only right to pay her something.

another ex-fave refused to eat at sanborn's. she, too, claimed the food was tasteless. i can't speak for ricardo's fish, but her spinach omelette looked pretty good, and my chilaquiles en mole were excellent. the coffee was pretty decent, too.

[Super Gato]

If you were planning a midweek trip to Tijuana, be advised that the San Ysidro port of entry. Both pedestrians and cars. Is currently closed (and according to the mayor's office may be closed for up to 12 more hours). You can get into Mexico, but to get out you'll need to go to the Otay crossing for now.

The canopy protecting people from the overhead construction collapsed and the POE has been closed since about 10:45am this morning. A 50 ft x 50 ft section collapsed that went from car lane 8 into the pedestrian processing area. 15 cars were damaged and 11 people went to the hospital. CBP has no official ETA on when it will reopen. You can check the status at CBP's website (http://apps.cbp.gov/bwt/).

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/sep/14/several-injured-border-crossing-roof-collapse/

[Fnord]

I was planning to go to Tijuana tomorrow. My wingman leaves a voice mail that says that tomorrow is some kind of Mexican Independence Day and things may be a little different. He wonders if it's going to be safe and if we should change our plans. Any tips?

[MadisonGuy]

come to think of it, there was a third time with an ex-fave. we'd been out until the wee hours, she came out of the shower, hopped into bed and immediately passed out and began to snore. lol. just like the scene from animal house, one side said to leave her alone, the other side said to fuck the shit out of her. i began, and her body started to respond. but it felt waaaaay too much like [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), and i stopped. the next day she told me she remembered nothing except the she walked into the room. next thing she remembered was waking up nude. lol.

amy mentioned money in a previous text, while we were arranging a meet. she agreed to meet on a saturday, and i was surprised and asked if she had to work. she just said "your money for me." no amount, or anything. so, as she was taking time off of work, it was only right to pay her something.

another ex-fave refused to eat at sanborn's. she, too, claimed the food was tasteless. i can't speak for ricardo's fish, but her spinach omelette looked pretty good, and my chilaquiles en mole were excellent. the coffee was pretty decent, too.a monger and a gentleman. nice! yes i've heard the i don't remember a thing that happened last night many times, i don't believe it for a second. i don't care how wasted i am, even passed out there's no way some guys going to have his way with me. so in my honest opinion alcohol is just something that makes it easier but you're still doing what you want. i really hate drunk girls though so odds are i would go my own way before they get back to my bed but.

last month in the philippines on my first night i made my way back with this girl and her cousin who couldn't even stand up to my room. this girl had a rock hard body everything was firm i mean damn, but she wasn't giving it up i have a feeling she was on the rag but i could be wrong. anyway i took trips to the bathroom with her cousin to help her throw up inbetween making out with this girl and every once and awhile the cousin would grab at my leg so finally after getting no further than 2nd base i switched to the cousin and hit a homer. the next morning she's all like i don't remember anything yadda yadda and i was just like i don't remember anything either and played the same game. i regret it because of all the girls i met in 2 weeks in philippines the one i fucked over was the one i wanted to fuck the most and i enjoyed talking to the most. who knew first night i'd find the best i figured shit 2 girls up in my hotel and my flight landed at 10pm, it's going to rain unbelievable women all day but that was just not the case. hindsight is 20/20.

[Big John 1]

This seems like a bargain. I emailed them, and they confirmed in an hour. I asked if additional fees for bringing chicas NOT from Tropical, they replied can bring guests from anyplace, no extra charge! Bueno! I am in Rosarito living there for a month, this seems like a great deal. Will report.

[Big John 1]

This am around 6:30 crossed over to hit ATM Wells Fargo San Ysidro. Presently living in Rosarito. Even then, waited over an hour pedestrian line but no hassles USA customs going North, I reasonably respectable looking 67 year old living presently in 2000peso per mes departemento. Going South, however, different story. Four Ice agents. 3 male one female had group of about 20 people lined up just in front of turnstyle to Mexico! Asking stupid questions, do you have over $10, 000, why are you going to Mexico, etc, searching bags. After about 15 minutes, I had enough of this bs! I watched the turnstyle, I watched the agents eyes in the line carefully. They seemed very interested in the luggage of young, long haired American guy. Their eyes were on him and his bags. I was maybe 12 feet from the turnstyle. The did not yet have my I'd or would not have done this. As quietly as possible I slipped out of line. They yelled when they heard the squeek of the turnstyle! I moved faster did not look back, of course! The young Mexicana in Mexico the aduana agent, was smiling, laughing, dice bravo a mi! Maybe a little daring, a tiny bit foolish but felt like a man, not like a sheep, a dupe of what was once the greatest, most free nation in the world! True, Mexico has its problems for sure but strangely feel freer here. No, will not cross there, especially around same time for a awhile. If they have a photo of me, it is of my backside! LOL!

[TomJackin]

So, it was a mixed bag. Lots of fun with a sweet, good personality chica who enjoys hand holding and cuddling.

But I'm really happy to see that Revu is now what it once was. A great party hangout. Maybe no longer gringo-centric, but still a great deal of fun. A good time was had by all, and I can't wait to do it again.Great report Phordphan! It should definitely be a "Report of Distinction" because of all the different venues that you went to and enjoyed. If I knew how to recommend your report to be a ROD, I would!

SENTRI rules!

[Guitarrefreak]

Translator app fucking with me, would be good if some brother out there helps me with:

"yo tambien tengo problemas"

"te tengo en mi cabeza"

"yo tambie quiero estar en tus brazos, extrano mucho como me besas"

I think its all good, but just want to be doubly sure.

[Joe Arturo]

Translator app fucking with me, would be good if some brother out there helps me with:

"yo tambien tengo problemas"

"te tengo en mi cabeza"

"yo tambie quiero estar en tus brazos, extrano mucho como me besas"

I think its all good, but just want to be doubly sure.I also have problems.

I have you in my head (you are on my mind)

I also want to be in your arms, I miss how you kiss me

[Guitarrefreak]

Thanks buddy.

So awesome, yet so conflicting.


I also have problems.

I have you in my head (you are on my mind)

I also want to be in your arms, I miss how you kiss me

[Joe Arturo]

I am reading a lot of posts on this forum about falling for sex workers. I have done this many times. Hell, I still do. It is easy for an old fart like me to fall for the young and good looking princesses that you meet in the fine establishments in Tijuana and Mexicali. It seems that it is really hard for this old fart to learn his lesson. But they are such great actresses. Each time this happens, I go back and read a report that I posted about myself on the Mexicali forum back in January 2007. It was my attempt to explain in English a newspaper article that appeared about me in the local Mexicali newspaper. I am providing the link here for others that might be falling for one of these sweet young things. It is about me and a sex worker that I met in one of the fine establishments in Mexicali when I was living there. I offer this up as a good piece of advice. When I read it, it is like a married man watching Fatal Attraction.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?440-Mexicali&p=550928&viewfull=1#post550928

[Guitarrefreak]

Dude, thanks for sharing, so sobering.

I will be too cheap to shell out 30k.

she is asking me to meet with her at 4 tomorrow at "centro".

does anyone know where the hell is centro?


I am reading a lot of posts on this forum about falling for sex workers. I have done this many times. Hell, I still do. It is easy for an old fart like me to fall for the young and good looking princesses that you meet in the fine establishments in Tijuana and Mexicali. It seems that it is really hard for this old fart to learn his lesson. But they are such great actresses. Each time this happens, I go back and read a report that I posted about myself on the Mexicali forum back in January 2007. It was my attempt to explain in English a newspaper article that appeared about me in the local Mexicali newspaper. I am providing the link here for others that might be falling for one of these sweet young things. It is about me and a sex worker that I met in one of the fine establishments in Mexicali when I was living there. I offer this up as a good piece of advice. When I read it, it is like a married man watching Fatal Attraction.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?440-Mexicali&p=550928&viewfull=1#post550928

[Drossi137]

Hey guys, planning on making a trip soon, is there any site that has common spanish phrases I should know when negotiating with girls because my spanish is really bad. You know, like a quick guide on how to ask for stuff when you're negotiating.

Thanks for any help.

[Colbrotha]

she is asking me to meet with her at 4 tomorrow at "centro".

Does anyone know where the hell is centro?C'mon dog. It can't be that far / hard to find out. El centro = downtown Tijuana. Just ask her for the address.

"Como es la direccion en el centro (mi amor)?"-What is the address (my love)?

"Como llegar alla?"-How do I get there?

"Como llegar al centro?"-How do I get downtown?

Peace

[MadisonGuy]

What a load of shit, seriously Mexico doesn't even search you entering but now we are searching people leaving? I only wish I lived in the area and did a night trip like some of the guys, I would cross at the beach and let them fumble around trying to figure out what to do. Unfortunately we already may be a country so controlled, that the extreme freedoms of Mexico are starting to be worth the change. I would have done the same thing as you, otherwise just walked to the front and started complaining which worked for me in the airport once when I was for some reason taken to a holding area. It's kind of funny that they check bags going to Mexico and they have yet to ever check my luggage coming back. If only I had enough balls to fill the bag with drugs and put a video on youtube of me crossing, I would be an overnight celebrity or in jail. Ha ha.


This am around 6:30 crossed over to hit ATM Wells Fargo San Ysidro. Presently living in Rosarito. Even then, waited over an hour pedestrian line but no hassles USA customs going North, I reasonably respectable looking 67 year old living presently in 2000peso per mes departemento. Going South, however, different story. Four Ice agents. 3 male one female had group of about 20 people lined up just in front of turnstyle to Mexico! Asking stupid questions, do you have over $10, 000, why are you going to Mexico, etc, searching bags. After about 15 minutes, I had enough of this bs! I watched the turnstyle, I watched the agents eyes in the line carefully. They seemed very interested in the luggage of young, long haired American guy. Their eyes were on him and his bags. I was maybe 12 feet from the turnstyle. The did not yet have my I'd or would not have done this. As quietly as possible I slipped out of line. They yelled when they heard the squeek of the turnstyle! I moved faster did not look back, of course! The young Mexicana in Mexico the aduana agent, was smiling, laughing, dice bravo a mi! Maybe a little daring, a tiny bit foolish but felt like a man, not like a sheep, a dupe of what was once the greatest, most free nation in the world! True, Mexico has its problems for sure but strangely feel freer here. No, will not cross there, especially around same time for a awhile. If they have a photo of me, it is of my backside! LOL!

[Phordphan]

Dude, thanks for sharing, so sobering.

I will be too cheap to shell out 30k.

She is asking me to meet with her at 4 tomorrow at "centro".

Does anyone know where the hell is centro?We might say "downtown"

The zona centro is, more or less, the area around Revolucion.

[Super Gato]

This am around 6:30 crossed over to hit ATM Wells Fargo San Ysidro. Presently living in Rosarito. Even then, waited over an hour pedestrian line but no hassles USA customs going North, I reasonably respectable looking 67 year old living presently in 2000peso per mes departemento. Going South, however, different story. Four Ice agents. 3 male one female had group of about 20 people lined up just in front of turnstyle to Mexico! Asking stupid questions, do you have over $10, 000, why are you going to Mexico, etc, searching bags. After about 15 minutes, I had enough of this bs! I watched the turnstyle, I watched the agents eyes in the line carefully. They seemed very interested in the luggage of young, long haired American guy. Their eyes were on him and his bags. I was maybe 12 feet from the turnstyle. The did not yet have my I'd or would not have done this. As quietly as possible I slipped out of line. They yelled when they heard the squeek of the turnstyle! I moved faster did not look back, of course! The young Mexicana in Mexico the aduana agent, was smiling, laughing, dice bravo a mi! Maybe a little daring, a tiny bit foolish but felt like a man, not like a sheep, a dupe of what was once the greatest, most free nation in the world! True, Mexico has its problems for sure but strangely feel freer here. No, will not cross there, especially around same time for a awhile. If they have a photo of me, it is of my backside! LOL!CBP is always down there looking for 'perps' at that spot. I've been pretty lucky as I apparently do not fit the profile of a money or gun smuggler. Later at night, they don't do a lineup for people leaving the country, but just look for people who fit the profile. Whatever profile that is. As I approach the group of CBP agents and wonder if it will be the night that they decide to hassle me and wonder if I should just make a run for it. Even though I've nothing to hide, it is offensive to have my government impede my lawful travel.

It does suck. And I hate that "none of your fucking business" is not an acceptable answer to the question of "why are you going / coming from Mexico?"

They also will inspect cars in the traffic lanes leaving the US on the 5 from time to time (remember ever car's driver and plate are photographed). There are sensors in the lanes and if a car weighs "too much" they'll get flagged to get a closer inspection (the Mexicans also will flag "too heavy" cars for the same reason when you get to their side). CBP have a mini x-ray van that will be parked there often near the exit of the old pedestrian bridge. Or they'll check the I'd and the "are you carrying more than $10K?" question (my answer to that whenever asked entering the US at any port of entry is a laugh).

This stuff happens at all of the US / Mexico borders. The guys in Laredo TX across from Nuevo Laredo MX are real pricks and make the people at San Ysidro seem like courteous professionals.

[Super Gato]

Dude, thanks for sharing, so sobering.

I will be too cheap to shell out 30k.

She is asking me to meet with her at 4 tomorrow at "centro".

Does anyone know where the hell is centro?Mexican Independence Day is the 16th. The parties start tonight. A lot of "el centro" which means downtown (literally "the center") will be blocked for big parities, bands, carnival games, etc. You'll need to get more info from her like a landmark / building / store / intersection than just "el centro" since it is a sea of people and things. At midnight there's fireworks (Adelita will have firecrackers inside the bar and it scares the hell out of me. Too much time hearing gunshots in Nuevo Laredo) and El Grito (the shout) which was the start of the revolution. The roads will fill with cars and people carrying Mexican flags and partying. Viva México.

Tomorrow there's a parade downtown and later Nortec Collective is playing. With the holiday on the weekend a lot of people should be out. This also will mean many may go to the US for the day so expect longer lines at the border (especially since only half of the car lanes are open due to the collapse yesterday).

[Guitarrefreak]

Yeah she sent me a txt message to meet her at a specific restaurant on revolucion later, probably just hand my phone off to the taxi guy to confirm with her when I am there

[Baxter Slade]

I am reading a lot of posts on this forum about falling for sex workers. I have done this many times. Hell, I still do. It is easy for an old fart like me to fall for the young and good looking princesses that you meet in the fine establishments in Tijuana and Mexicali. It seems that it is really hard for this old fart to learn his lesson. But they are such great actresses. Each time this happens, I go back and read a report that I posted about myself on the Mexicali forum back in January 2007. It was my attempt to explain in English a newspaper article that appeared about me in the local Mexicali newspaper. I am providing the link here for others that might be falling for one of these sweet young things. It is about me and a sex worker that I met in one of the fine establishments in Mexicali when I was living there. I offer this up as a good piece of advice. When I read it, it is like a married man watching Fatal Attraction.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?440-Mexicali&p=550928&viewfull=1#post550928Thanks for sharing your story I find it quite enlightning. I had myself convinced that yes, these chicas are quite the actresses, but my thinking was they approach you in the bar they act like they love you, however if you don't buy them a drink or take them arriba the act is over. In my case I have been proceeding with caution. I figured its been close to a year now that I have been wrapped up with the same chica, she provides good companionship more sex than I need, and she never asks for a penny. So after a great 3 days I spent with her I was finally ready to let my guard down and then I read this, thanks so much for the warning.

If you don't mind I do have a couple of questions. In your case do you think it was 3 years of acting or was it just a relationship that might have gone bad at some point? And did you ever see any warning signs or character flaws along the way. That might have indicated problems lie ahead?

[Guitarrefreak]

I think I got stood up. Was there waiting for a while, sending her txt messages to let her know I already arrived, but no phone or text from her, waited for about 45 mins.

Anyway, glad that I have an excuse to move on.

Viva mexico!


Yeah she sent me a txt message to meet her at a specific restaurant on revolucion later, probably just hand my phone off to the taxi guy to confirm with her when I am there

[Colbrotha]

So after a great 3 days I spent with her I was finally ready to let my guard down and then I read this, thanks so much for the warning.

If you don't mind I do have a couple of questions. In your case do you think it was 3 years of acting or was it just a relationship that might have gone bad at some point? And did you ever see any warning signs or character flaws along the way. That might have indicated problems lie ahead?What did Forest Gump say: "Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you going to get". This applies to all relationships (pros / semi-pros / non-pros).

My ex is a candidate to be Valedictorian at her local University, has won many awards for her academic excellence, will be working for a world class corporation when she graduates, is from MONEY, and STRANGELY enough had been asked to be an Abercrombie & Fitch model at one point in her life. Sounds like a dream come true on paper, right? Wrong, because she's a complete psycho with issues from here to the moon. My point? You never know what you're going to get.

Supersteve is keeping it real, and just giving us a heads up. It doesn't mean that his experiences have anything to do with anybody else's experiences. There are no guarantees with any girl / woman / LADY. Hugo, if you're down for your chica, then you're down, and if she's down, then she's down. The moral of the story is "Ten CUIDADO", nothing more. Supersteve has a lot of good karma emanating from his being by doing the right thing with his ex-chica's kids. We'll have to wait and see what he says regarding your questions. But I personally never saw any warning signs with my ex; It just kinda evolves little by little.

Your girl might have a "HEART OF GOLD" or be a "MANEATER". All you can do is give it a shot. If someone wants to hide something, no matter how much you want to find that out, its virtually impossible. Having "Faith" in your decisions for today and tomorrow, when using all available information at your hands now, is all you can do. It sounds like you got a good thing going up to the moment, just take it one day at a time. Peace. And have lots of sex.

[Colbrotha]

I think I got stood up. Was there waiting for a while, sending her txt messages to let her know I already arrived, but no phone or text from her, waited for about 45 mins.WTF? Are you serious? You can move on after you HIT it one more time IMHO. Don't forget the little blue pill, because your mission is to crush guts. I find it interesting to TAX somebody you're a little frustrated in sometimes, maybe thats just me. Peace

[MadisonGuy]

Yeah Hugo you have to have a really thick skin and not really care much at all to be playing with that fire. You can never imagine what these girls go through, and it's best to try not to. I never ask my wife about her past and sometimes she tells me shit that I just do not want to hear. Luckily my wife got married at 16 in mexico so she was a working girl to only one guy, she's smarter than the average puta. It is normal in their culture to lie, and they are really really good at it. I think if you find a girl in a smaller community you could possibly strike gold, but in Tijuana good luck. You won't see a sign, you won't see a character flaw. It's like having a monkey as a pet, it's cute and nice all the time and one day it literally rips your face off. But free sex is free sex, just remember a real good con artist waits till the right moment to strike and walks away with the most. Have you ever tried meeting a girl state side Hugo? There's so many of them if I could get away with it I am one devious mother fer. My latest scheme, I love taking photos and I love hot women so how do you put them together? That's right I started a modeling agency which works awesome because I like photography, like hot young girls, and like money which I make from advertising the site. I think if you catch a girl off guard and get that 1st date you can make it happen if you want, that first date is just hard here so you have to think outside the box. Latin stores is where it is at if you like latin girls. I'm sure just like here they will let you post stuff in the store on the wall, just don't put gringo looking for chica.


Thanks for sharing your story I find it quite enlightning. I had myself convinced that yes, these chicas are quite the actresses, but my thinking was they approach you in the bar they act like they love you, however if you don't buy them a drink or take them arriba the act is over. In my case I have been proceeding with caution. I figured its been close to a year now that I have been wrapped up with the same chica, she provides good companionship more sex than I need, and she never asks for a penny. So after a great 3 days I spent with her I was finally ready to let my guard down and then I read this, thanks so much for the warning.

If you don't mind I do have a couple of questions. In your case do you think it was 3 years of acting or was it just a relationship that might have gone bad at some point? And did you ever see any warning signs or character flaws along the way. That might have indicated problems lie ahead?

[Joe Arturo]

Thanks for sharing your story I find it quite enlightning. I had myself convinced that yes, these chicas are quite the actresses, but my thinking was they approach you in the bar they act like they love you, however if you don't buy them a drink or take them arriba the act is over. In my case I have been proceeding with caution. I figured its been close to a year now that I have been wrapped up with the same chica, she provides good companionship more sex than I need, and she never asks for a penny. So after a great 3 days I spent with her I was finally ready to let my guard down and then I read this, thanks so much for the warning.

If you don't mind I do have a couple of questions. In your case do you think it was 3 years of acting or was it just a relationship that might have gone bad at some point? And did you ever see any warning signs or character flaws along the way. That might have indicated problems lie ahead?I really don't know if she was acting for 3 years or not. It felt like the real thing. I have found out since then that she started using crystal meth and the guy that was doing the "autosequestro" (self kidnapping in English) with her was her dealer. I caught her in a few little lies but she always was able to talk her way around it. This was during the time that I was living in Mexicali every other week and in USA every other week. Her kids lived with us and it felt like a real family thing.

In November, it will be 5 years that they have been in prison. They both got sentenced to 9 years and 7 months. The minimum sentence for autosequestro was 7 years and the maximum was 15 years. The law has changed since then and the minimum has been increased to 12 years and the maximum to 20 years. They can get out in 2/3 of the sentence for good behavior.

I can only assume that she was acting the whole time. But it really felt like the real thing.

[Joe Arturo]

I will be in Tijuana this weekend arriving sometime Friday evening and leaving sometime on Monday afternoon. I have already set up an allnighter with one of my favorites for Friday night. She will meet me at midnight at my hotel. I am a 64 year old young guy with grey hair that speaks pretty good Spanish and on Saturday afternoon will be wearing my Chivas de Guadalajara jersey to watch the game against Puebla at 5:00 PM. Probably at Hong Kong. If anybody wants to have a beer or two with me, send me a PM with your cell number and I will give you a call.

Arriba Mexico Cabrones!

[Cerberus]

What a load of shit, seriously Mexico doesn't even search you entering but now we are searching people leaving? I only wish I lived in the area and did a night trip like some of the guys, I would cross at the beach and let them fumble around trying to figure out what to do. Unfortunately we already may be a country so controlled, that the extreme freedoms of Mexico are starting to be worth the change. I would have done the same thing as you, otherwise just walked to the front and started complaining which worked for me in the airport once when I was for some reason taken to a holding area. It's kind of funny that they check bags going to Mexico and they have yet to ever check my luggage coming back. If only I had enough balls to fill the bag with drugs and put a video on youtube of me crossing, I would be an overnight celebrity or in jail. Ha ha.MG,

Almost agree with 95% of your post, with one small exception. I live in LA and travel to Tijuana via San Ysidro. I have done both walking and driving. Out of perhaps 50 or so trips in either directlion; I have only been searched once.

I walked into Mexico, and brought nothing illegal except an extra carton of cigarettes (beyond Mexican import duty-duty-free limits). Surprisingly, I was not stopped by Mexican Customs, but by the Mexican Marines. I guess that I fit their profile as a gun-runner. They did a quick check of my bags (maybe 45 seconds) and I was on my way again.

They didn't even bat an eye at the obvious exceeding of imports into Mexico.

I will add on item of interest to travelers further south of Tijuana. I drove to Puerto Nuevo for dinner (lobster at Casa Oscar and very recommended for bang for the buck. For newbies; just Google "lobster village + Mexico." There is a boatload of restaurants of the same venue.

However, I digress. The chica and I are heading back and I made a wrong turn, and ended up on the Old.

Highway 1, instead of the "new" 1 freeway. We were looking for an alternative on-ramp, and blundered into a highway check point. The checkpoint was run by Mexican Marines. Typical of marines worldwide; they were professional, but ain't going to take shit from anyone about civil rights, etcetra. They were very polite, but limited on English language. Best advice to readers is to remain calm, don't panic, and most of all don't do anything stupid in Mexico (e. G; drinking / driving, drugs, etc. The consequences are severe to moderate, either judically punitive or bribes, and this can change from cop to cop, due to the Calderon's elimination of bribery in police forces).

We were directed to exit the car, while two marines a short distance away, kept semi-automatic weapons trained in our general direction and the vehicle search area. The Marines were very professional, quickly checked the vehicle (I assume for weapons) , they offered polite apologies (translated by chica) and we on our way again. Took about 15 minutes total including waiting in line.

The CBP does indeed "profile." There was a program on cabletelevision, (History Channel, or something else; I can't remember exactly). They actually showed a "bust" start to finish. The young longlong-haired young man you mentioned, might fit the profile of a struggling student looking to make a few quick bucks. Us older guys don't really fit fit this profile. I'm not sure and don't want to cast wild generalizations around. I'm positive that they have a wider range of profiles easiiy at their disposal.

We have grey hair, a paunch stomach, out of shape, and have an overnight bag, with a few hundred dollars on our person. Us older guys, and we fit a US CBP profile perfectly.

The old guys just want to get LAID! Leave the old men alone!

YEP! I'm an older guy too!

[SuperSteve]

IMHO:

Hey Gfreak the next time you talk to (see) her she will tell you that her sick dog ate her cell phone as she was walking out the door to the hospital, where her sick mother was having brain surgery. So you see, it really isn't that she didn't answer, she couldn't have, and her heart is heavy because she missed you, and of course, as you can see it is not her fault. Oh, by the way, when she was at the hospital she found out that she too needs brain surgery, could you spare a dime? The person that one finds for love should be that persons "best friend", first and foremost. When she did not return your call, if your first thought was not,"My God, what happened to her, she must have had something terrible happen", instead of,"What the phuck, why isn't she returning my call", you may want to take a look at where that relationship is headed, and what the future holds.

I'm not trying to bust balls here, yours is just a story that I have seen many, many times in my 40 plus years of mongering. Man finds hot young chick that rocks his world, she treats him like a god initially. Once she has the hook set, she reels him in. It soon becomes a very different ballgame, with the man saying but mine / she is different. IMO, if the sex is good, and the cost is right, continue to see her, but on your terms, not hers. If she calls you and you are in town and want to see her, by all means do it. If she calls and you are not in town, you may want to pass. Give her control, and she will get the feeling that you are on her string, and she can pull you in at any time. She will have no respect for you, and eventually you will not respect yourself, and anger will creep in, which is the beginning of the end. Set the parameters that are acceptable for you now. If she cannot accept them the choice is yours to proceed or not.

Matters of the heart do not belong in the P4P game. I'm sure that there are the very rare occasions where it works, but where else in life are you willing to take a 1 in 1, 000 bet, especially with your heart and soul. IMO these women can be wonderful companions for the short term. At best, women and men do not mix well. We are data driven, and they are feeling driven. It is like trying to mix oil, and water. Then throw in all the other variables age, cultures, immaturity, language barrier, P4P background, poor and you are rich (to them) , and it is virtually impossible to find your soul mate. IMJ stop looking for permanence, ride the horse until it falls, and then get on another.

Again, what do I know I am just a fat, old, fart that has seen much in my life, and these are only opinions, not fact. Again, what I know for a fact is, do not spend more money than you can afford to lose.

Health & happiness to all.

[Keg]

If you were planning a midweek trip to Tijuana, be advised that the San Ysidro port of entry. Both pedestrians and cars. Is currently closed (and according to the mayor's office may be closed for up to 12 more hours). You can get into Mexico, but to get out you'll need to go to the Otay crossing for now.

The canopy protecting people from the overhead construction collapsed and the POE has been closed since about 10:45am this morning. A 50 ft x 50 ft section collapsed that went from car lane 8 into the pedestrian processing area. 15 cars were damaged and 11 people went to the hospital. CBP has no official ETA on when it will reopen. You can check the status at CBP's website (

http://apps.cbp.gov/bwt/

).

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/sep/14/several-injured-border-crossing-roof-collapse/SG,

I read this story in the UnionTrib, real bummer. Thanks for including the CBP link, it appears to be all clear now, so I'll be heading down this afternoon.

Did anyone crossed over last night?

[Guitarrefreak]

Thanks for the input.

Do keep feedback like this coming, I know I have never met with you guys (well, almost did w / MG, did w / Tom, and will be w / Joe) , but I know these are words of wisdom and came from experience and is intended to help us all here.

Heck, I have been through some of it myself already in the past.

Except that I am not old.

That being said, I will be looking forward to what she has to say, and get a kick out of it, don't we all need some humor in life?

PS: yes the first reaction was "why the phuck isn't she returning my call?".)


IMHO:

Hey Gfreak the next time you talk to (see) her she will tell you that her sick dog ate her cell phone as she was walking out the door to the hospital, where her sick mother was having brain surgery. So you see, it really isn't that she didn't answer, she couldn't have, and her heart is heavy because she missed you, and of course, as you can see it is not her fault. Oh, by the way, when she was at the hospital she found out that she too needs brain surgery, could you spare a dime? The person that one finds for love should be that persons "best friend", first and foremost. When she did not return your call, if your first thought was not,"My God, what happened to her, she must have had something terrible happen", instead of,"What the phuck, why isn't she returning my call", you may want to take a look at where that relationship is headed, and what the future holds.

I'm not trying to bust balls here, yours is just a story that I have seen many, many times in my 40 plus years of mongering. Man finds hot young chick that rocks his world, she treats him like a god initially. Once she has the hook set, she reels him in. It soon becomes a very different ballgame, with the man saying but mine / she is different. IMO, if the sex is good, and the cost is right, continue to see her, but on your terms, not hers. If she calls you and you are in town and want to see her, by all means do it. If she calls and you are not in town, you may want to pass. Give her control, and she will get the feeling that you are on her string, and she can pull you in at any time. She will have no respect for you, and eventually you will not respect yourself, and anger will creep in, which is the beginning of the end. Set the parameters that are acceptable for you now. If she cannot accept them the choice is yours to proceed or not.

Matters of the heart do not belong in the P4P game. I'm sure that there are the very rare occasions where it works, but where else in life are you willing to take a 1 in 1, 000 bet, especially with your heart and soul. IMO these women can be wonderful companions for the short term. At best, women and men do not mix well. We are data driven, and they are feeling driven. It is like trying to mix oil, and water. Then throw in all the other variables age, cultures, immaturity, language barrier, P4P background, poor and you are rich (to them) , and it is virtually impossible to find your soul mate. IMJ stop looking for permanence, ride the horse until it falls, and then get on another.

Again, what do I know I am just a fat, old, fart that has seen much in my life, and these are only opinions, not fact. Again, what I know for a fact is, do not spend more money than you can afford to lose.

Health & happiness to all.

[Baxter Slade]

Have you ever tried meeting a girl state side Hugo?I guess once you reach a certain age and your looks hit the wall it becomes to much work to pursue a regular girl. And why would I want one stateside things could get to complicated being married and having someone to close. Although all the warnings are out there about getting to involved with these chicas, Tijuana seems like the perfect place to mix romance with adventure. I'am always reminded of one of the funniest thing I read on USASG, was about a guy who described himself as a fat old bald guy from the midwest who was going to be making his first trip to Las Vegas. And his question was how am I going to be able to figure out who the hookers are once I'am in one of those huge casinos filled with people. And someone answered him "Dude if a girl smiles at you she is a hooker." The point being is at a certain point its almost as if you become invisible to regular woman. Now Madison I still can't belive a playboy like you didn't get anything going with those fine ladies at the front desk at the Ticuan, unless there is something you are not sharing.

Since I have returned from my last trip I have been feeling a bit of guilt. In my effort to try to keep this relationship from being about the money I have probably been a real dick. I mean if you go to visit an out of town friend and they are taking you all over the place you should at least offer to fill the gas tank or make sure you give them a nice thank you present at some point. So I was thinking of maybe heading down to Tijuana one morning with the sole purpose of meeting my GF at the Costco I have seen somewhere around the border and filling her car with a couple hundred dollars of groceries. Since her number 1 concern seems to be feeding the family it may be the best way to say thank you. So if anyone has an opinion on whether that is a good idea or a bad idea let me know.

One more thing I just got done reading SuperSteve's advice for Guitar and you are right on as usual. Keep sharing and dispensing all that knowledge you have gained through all those years of mongering. I know there are plenty of stories out there about getting fucked over by these chicas. But any vets have a story about finding that needle in a haystack, and then by not taking action letting her get away, and going on to regret it forever.

[SuperSteve]

Hugotheman,

IMO the food idea sounds great. It will allow her to keep / spend on herself some of her "hard earned" income, while still providing the food that her family needs. IMO, a real class act, much better than buying her something that she may or may not want. With the money that she would have used to buy food she can buy something "she has wanted" for herself.

Another thought is to take her for a massage, then to her favorite salon, let her have her hair (colored & cut?) , make-up, nails done, and whatever else she desires (within reason of course) , while you sit with her patiently. Spoil her for the day, just make it about her and let her be taken care of for a change. She is so used to providing for others it would be a nice change for her to be taken care of, if only for those few hours. Let her know that you appreciate the sacrifices that she makes for her family, and what a special lady it makes her. I have found that women that are in the P4p arena often do not look at themselves as special for any reason. The more that you tell them this, and show them "you" believe they are, you will have helped her more than any amount of money could. Maybe a combination of food, and spoiling would be nice.

I have been telling my current favorita in Tijuana for a few months about how special she is. In the beginning she would actually look away, not respond, and seem embarrassed. I would tell her,"I have spoken my truth to you, why don't you accept it?" As we are sitting there now she will say from out of no where,"Yes I am" (this is the response that I have told her should be her answer). She sits up taller when she says it, her whole body language changes, and she lights up. While our "relationship" will eventually run its course, she now has a far greater gift than money could buy, better self-esteem. If you can make just one lady of the night, or anyone for that matter, feel better about themselves, IMO you have done something great, and wonderful.

You are a good man for even thinking about this. Many others would just brag about what they are getting for free. Do not discount this, and honor yourself for being such a good man.

Health & happiness to all.

[Super Gato]

SG,

I read this story in the UnionTrib, real bummer. Thanks for including the CBP link, it appears to be all clear now, so I'll be heading down this afternoon.

Did anyone crossed over last night?I was in town last night for El Grito. The pedestrian border crossing was business as usual. I read that the car lanes are reduced to about half and there's not a clear ETA when they will reopen. Since I cross at 3am, car traffic seemed to be swift.

[Big John 1]

They had one day special for $20 online! When I got there even though had a prinout confirming $20 they tried for $25. On principle stood my ground politely, asked for management, got it! The place is dark in room but great showers, beds, no Internet, but fine for price plus you can bring any chicas to you room even street chicas which I did. Read my next report. When I brought street chica in clerk asked for a dollar, I found this comical and gave him a dollar! Oh, watch out for stairs in Rizo de Oro, hard to navigate even sober.

[Big John 1]

Hey guys, planning on making a trip soon, is there any site that has common spanish phrases I should know when negotiating with girls because my spanish is really bad. You know, like a quick guide on how to ask for stuff when you're negotiating.

Thanks for any help.I used these books when learning about 8 years ago. All are available online, used and cheap. 1". Spanish for Gringos,"even phrases for dating, romance. 2."Mexican Spanish"good pocket phrasebook, dating, romance terms, also. 3". Margarita Madrigals Guide to Spanish"love that first name "Margarita"Good luck, though I learned more from people the books good starter material Big john

[Spanky99]

Well, let's just say that some sights are best unseen and left to the imagination. :)I agree with that completely.


But I wonder, after you roll around nude in the shaving cream, how do you clean up? You can't just get dressed. Enquiring minds, and all that.You don't. You clean up as best as you can and go with it from there. The shaving cream was the easy part, the freaking beer they kept dumping sucked. So you smell like cheap aftershave mixed with beer and no shower to get it off you.

Not that I know anything about that.

[Guitarrefreak]

Still buzzed from last night to type in great detail, but, had a fucking awesome night down at the zona, spent most of my time with a chica I met last week.

She hails from Cancun and was there with her friend for like 10 days vacation before school starts.

She is as cool as always, slowly, very very slowly taking in her drink, never pushing me for anything and even when she went ahead to order another fischa, she asked for beer and a glass of ice and she explained that there was more liquid for her to consume than the regular drinks which is just one glass and finishes quickly.

Is she awesome? Or is she fucking awesome?

To top that off, I went vamos arriba with her, total GFE, no rush, total foreplay, washed me and gave me the awesomenest BBBJ I have had in a long time, and she was dripping wet too, and after we were done (cuddling included) , I wanted to give her the money I paid her last time and she refused it, and I offered, and she refused it again, saying that she had a great time, and asked me to just buy her 2 more drinks after we returned to HK, which I did.

Is she awesome? Or is she fucking awesome? .

I also told her story about my ATF#1, to which she just laughed it off and told me not to worry about it, but even after we parted ways and was exchanging txt messages, she was asking whether I returned to amnesia after leaving the zona.

Of course I did, was still a little hung up about getting flaked. ATF's phone hasn't been ringing through and no return on my txt mensajes.

Heading down again tonight, of course meeting with the awesome chick in HK for the last time, and of course, trying my luck again at amnesia.

Peace

[Metro Male]

Landed on Friday evening. Checked into Ticuan at USD 56 for emperor room and it is a great choice. Large rooms and efficient staff.

Around 10 pm Went walking 8 blocks to the action scene. Checked Adalita but selection was poor. Moved to HK and it was full. Absolutely no place to move but great as you could grab all tities and asses for fun. Exchanged USD 40 for 1 dollar notes to hand out to the dancing ladies and nuzzle the face in the different sizes of boobs and smell variety of pussies.

After spending the entire 1 dollar notes on various girls saw a girl who looked appealing and started the routine. She was smiling and laughing and I like that in a girl. I asked for BBBJ and she agreed for 80. Up we went and paid 15 to the hotel. I was expecting a normal service and was pleasantly surprised. She was clean shaven with a beautiful pussy and an awesome ass. I kept complimenting her and it seemed she was turned on. We took a shower and she licked me and I started licking her. We jumped into bed and were in position 69. She was in her full swing and took me in completely and gave the best BBBJ ever. I have a few times experienced the GFE suck and this was one of my lucky days. She was at it for 20 mins and there was a knock and I asked her to pay them 15 enough to stop bothering us for another half hour.

There is a picture in the room of an Indian king fucking his queen doggie style with 2 women watching and she wanted to try that. On with the condom and we went into that position with me hard slapping her ass and then she was laughing and saying she was sure I wanted two girls to watch. But I said my eyes were only for her and she became very GFE. We tried several other positions and best part was that she wanted me to kiss her deep. She was a great kisser and this is something that turns me on completely. We were talking and laughing in between serious fucking. And I am sure some of the mongers and boys outside must have heard us.

I mentioned that I needed to cum in her mouth and she readily agreed. So I threw the condom and she held out her tongue to slurp all the cum. Her fingers were on my balls and scratching. I have seen all this in various porno movies but I seemed to be in one of them now. I burst out completely and cum was all over her face and tongue and boobs. She licked me clean and even swallowed some of it. It has never happened to me with a hooker and this was an outstanding performance.

We hugged for a while and then off to the shower again. Her only request was not to put water on the hair as she had to go back to her performance. I was tempted to ask her number and name and make her my permanent GF but my judgement tells me to leave it at that. Why spoil a great evening by trying to get into an emotional affair. She said this was one of her most enjoyable fucking sessions and I am tempted to believe her.

I gave her 150 as we were almost an hour together. She never asked for it but I know the rates and it would have been wrong to short change her. We kissed for almost 5 minutes before we parted. She knew I was not coming back her way and told me to be careful with girls. Absolute GFE.

I went out and had a great meal. Coming back around 12:30 my Johnny was up for action again and decided to hit HK again. Mistake. Never do another fuck after a great fuck. This lady Crystal, was younger but with an attitude. Had brown and golden curled hairs and asked for 80 upfront but said she will do everything. Up we went and she started acting as soon as she put the money in her purse. Saying she has hurt herself with pole dancing and her nipples were swollen and I could not squeeze her boobs or ass or anything. Her nipples were covered with a flower tape and she lied down with no emotions almost like fucking a corpse. And worst was that she was expert in putting the legs in a manner that I could only go in not more than an inch at best. It was impossible. No hugging, no kissing, no squeezing and worst. No fucking. In disgust I threw the condom and walked out and called the hotel manager who shrugged his shoulders and said I should meet the HK bar manager Hussein who was nice but said it is a difficult situation for him as I was in for more than 10 mins so cannot qualify for a refund. He still called this girl. CRYSTAL and she lied completely (obviously in spanish so I did not understand anything) what I found out that she said that I had quick sex and wanted more. She said I was hitting her but thank God the bar manager did not believe her. He asked all the boys in the hotel and the receptionist and they agreed that I was out in 10 mins screaming but nobody could know whether we had sex or not as the condom was lying in the dustbin.

To cut the story short. Cristal or Crystal was now nowhere to be found so no refund but Hussein was kind enough on three things. 1. He would give me entry free for next two days and 2. I could take a girl up and they won't charge for the room and 3. In case any other ISG member reported Crystal to him he will throw her out of HK. How about that. The power of ISG. So guys next time you have a girl like that do not keep it to yourself but tell the manager of whichever bar. Slowly and surely we will weed the bad ones out as it is our duty to the fellow mongers.

Next day I wanted only to sample the SW and decided it has to be a score of 4. So left hotel at 2 pm after lunch and was surprised to find very few girls. Perhaps it was the heat. Waited till about 3:30 at a bar and then did the first round (and then came later at 10 pm to do the second round). Found a nice tall young girl who wanted 20 normal and 30 without clothes and 40 for a blow-job with condom. I absolutely hate a CBJ so settled on normal without clothes and all future fucking to USD 30. Now here is the interesting part. I may have found out the magic potion that unleashes me and distinguishes a good fuck from a bad fuck for me. It is kissing. Kissing passionately on the nipples and mouth turns me on but most important. The girls who allow that are definitely better GFE than who lie down to finish your juice.

In all I sampled 4 SW till about 4 am in the morning between visits to various bars and small rooms. The best one was Kalina just standing a little ahead of HK. I was sure by this time that I will only go with girls who allow me to kiss them and she agreed. I would rate this 30 dollar plus 5 expense for the room at par with a best quickie. She was moaning right, and scratching my back and ass and my nipples all the time. Half way through I lifted her and thrust deeper. She told me later that she enjoyed the fuck and again I am happy that my John could rise to the occasion to service the needy.

So after 6 fuck Tijuana veteran I have discovered a few things about my style and plan to keep it simple. I make a pledge to go with only those girls that allow kissing and with no one else however tempting and ravishing they might look standing or dancing.

Overall had 2 great fucks. 2 average and 2 extremely bad deals. It is not about SW vs Bars, it is about kissing or no kissing. And If you guys try this formula and if it works for a few of us. It could become our secret formula to increase that GFE success ratio.

[XmangoX]

I've been lurking this forum for a while and decided it was time to post a report. Reading all these stories about how easy it was to get laid down in Tijuana I thought to myself what am I waiting for and decided to go for it. I've always been extremely shy around girls so you guessed it I was a virgin. So after reading and memorizing all the advice I'd read on these threads I figured what have I got to lose (pardon the pun).

Ideally I would have had a wingman to go with me but because I wanted this trip to be all about me I decided to go solo. I was kinda scared to go by myself at night somewhere I'd never been before so decided to go during the day. I drove down to the border, parked behind JIB and walked across. I hopped in a yellow taxi (in the front seat, of course) and told the guy to take me to Adelitas. He tried to convince me to go somewhere else, but I lied and told him I was meeting my friends there. So off we went. We pulled up by the bar and I paid him the five bucks plus one for a tip (I had three denominations of bills in three different pockets. Ones for tips, fives for drinks, twentys for girls. And a five in each sock for cabs. This way I can just pull out cash without haivng to fumble around and showing too much money by mistake).

I remember reading how dark it felt coming into AB from outside during the daytime so I made sure to wear sunglasses that day. I didn't want to be tripping around as soon as I went in and making an ass of myself. I go inside and there were quite a few girls there for it being so early in the day (it was a little after one or so). I buy a drink and walk around. A couple of girls came up to me but they were too aggressive. I wasn't feeling it. So I sit down and this gorgeous Latin chick walks by and sits down next to me. She asks if I'll buy her a drink. Of course I say yes. By this point I had made up my mind I was going to fuck her, and I was sweating like crazy with the anticipation. Legs were shaking, heart pounding, everything. I decided not to waste any time and asked her how much. She said 60 like I expected, didn't bother haggling since by now I was probably stuttering. I should have had a few more beers but oh well. Off we went. She took me next door and we went upstairs. I paid 12 for the room and was so nervous I almost dropped my money on the ground. I wanted to appear calm so she wouldn't know it was my first time, but I think she probably knew the minute I walked in the room.

Anyway we go into the room and I put her money next to her purse on the table. She smiles and sits me down on the bed. By this point everything seemed sort of surreal. She went into the bathroom for a few minutes and then we start to undress. She was awesome. Perfect body and she did a good job keeping me relaxed. She started with a CBJ for a few minutes, then she climbed on top and we started to fuck. We did a few different positions and I finished her off doggy. Came kind of quick but she was willing to let me try again after a bit. I told her it was my first time and she said she could tell. Not sure if that was a good or bad thing, but apparently she gave me a freebie so it must not be too bad. After a couple of minutes I was ready to go at it again. This time I lasted longer and heard the famous knock on the door. She started moaning and if I'm not mistaken I believed she came. I asked if I could come on her and she said yes, so when I was ready I pulled out and came all over her tits. We cleaned up and she gave me a kiss on the cheek on complimented me on how good I was. She was probably just saying that but it felt good all the same. I decided I was not quite ready to leave so I went back to the bar and order more drinks. I noticed this girl in the part of the bar where all the hot girls hang out. With my newfound confidence I went straight up to her, grabbed her by the arm and said "let's go." She didn't waste anytime and we agreed on 60 and up we went. The sex was ok, not as good as the first girl, but this chick was definately hotter. After fucking her for twenty minutes I let her ride me and she finished me off in no time. Paid her and went back downstairs.

I ran into the first chick I was with and we clicked again right away. We went back upstairs and the guy at the counter gave me a grin. By this time I was feeling like I owned the damn place and I gave this girl a good pounding. It was porn-style sex complete with fake orgasms (or maybe they were real?) I'm pretty sure everybody could hear us. When we were done we exchanged cell numbers and she told me never enjoyed a customer so much. Not sure if I buy it but she sure knows what to say. Anyway I paid her ten bucks extra and this time she gave me a kiss on the lips. It wasn't DFK or anything but it was still pretty nice.

I go back down and have another beer before leaving. I decided to try one of the street girls before heading home. I walked down the alley and saw a few girls who looked good enough to be working at the bars. I asked one how much and she said twenty. Five for the room and we were upstairs. No BJ but for twenty bucks I think I got my money's worth. Overall I was pretty happy. I got to fuck three chicks and had a little money left over to grab a bite to eat after. I will definately be going back again next month when I get paid. I think I will stick to the one BG and try a few more of the SGs this time. Hopefully I can convince my buddy to go with me and we can check out the nightlife. Will report then!

[Ath Trainer]

Great report, but, you never mentioned the GFE's name or what she looked like.

I would rather have a girl who gives good service, but is not a "hottie", than a "hottie" who just lays there any day of the week. Our goal is to find a GFE hottie. Please give more details about the GFE. I will be there in December, and would love to write the same report that you did when I return.

[Keg]

Overall had 2 great fucks. 2 average and 2 extremely bad deals. It is not about SW vs Bars, it is about kissing or no kissing. And If you guys try this formula and if it works for a few of us. It could become our secret formula to increase that GFE success ratio.Cool post Metro Male, always nice to read about a successful trip. I'm sure many will agree that chicas kissing during a session is certainly part of the GFE equation, but I'm not sure you can call it a "secret formula" really. The GFE and / or PSE are a bit subjective, based on each persons expectations and experiences. Cheers.

[MadisonGuy]

I have only found one good kisser in all the girls I've been with there, plenty of girls kissed though. I do agree the good kisser was pretty damn great but 1 in 50/100 is not really great odds. I may feel old but in the big picture I'm not and I've become increasingly irritated with girls I felt I needed to teach them how the hell to kiss, fuck, BJ everything. I'm worried that by the time my age doubles I'm going to ***** slap a working girl right out the window one of these times. I know everyone likes there own thing and I can understand that not every girl will be perfect but some things just seem obvious, this one girl in the Philippines (not a bar girl) would bite my lip so hard it'd hurt. I had to tell her like 3 times to stop and finally was like next time no more sexy time for you. A SG last trip would stick her tongue out and just barely touch my cock with it, she might as well try to jack me off with two fingers. I don't get it, porn is readily available everywhere it seems obvious to study up a little bit. I feel like I need to make a website or infomercial to teach women how to please a guy or something. Either that or we need to go back to the day we clubbed them over the head and had our way with them because that would be better than some of the experiences I've had over the last couple years and it seems to be getting worse.

[Baxter Slade]

Great first report, sounds like you had quite a good time. Looks like you did your homework on this site and gained enough good info to make everything go smooth. If you are interested in having a couple extra bucks for the ladies, you can walk past the yellow cabs to and cross the street by Mcdonalds and catch an econo cab they would be happy to deliver you to the zona for 3 dollars. Or if you don't feel like walking just tell the yellow cab guy you are going to catch an econo cab for 3 dollars and they will usually match the price. And remember everything in Tijuana is negotiable even the sex.

From virgin to veteran in a matter of hours Tijuana comes through again.

[XmangoX]

Great first report, sounds like you had quite a good time. Looks like you did your homework on this site and gained enough good info to make everything go smooth. If you are interested in having a couple extra bucks for the ladies, you can walk past the yellow cabs to and cross the street by Mcdonalds and catch an econo cab they would be happy to deliver you to the zona for 3 dollars. Or if you don't feel like walking just tell the yellow cab guy you are going to catch an econo cab for 3 dollars and they will usually match the price. And remember everything in Tijuana is negotiable even the sex.

From virgin to veteran in a matter of hours Tijuana comes through again.Thanks for the tip. Will be sure to do that!

[Rohan Cid]

Dude, if a first-timer is asking for directions, isn't it easier just to direct them to the taxi stand? As you stated in your post,"walking is better as long as you know where you are going", but then you don't post the walking directions for the newbie.Of course, silly me. From the San Ysidro border crossing, cross the bridge over the river. Make your way to the arch then make a right on Revolucion to Coahuila then make a left. BTW, I've only been down there once and had fun at Adelitas (believe it or not, a girl approached me almost right away, but I digress) so I am also a newbie.

Hope that helps.

[FlapJacK]

Headed down on Saturday afternoon, got there around 5:30ish, parking lot was pretty full and looked like it would be a busy night. I walked to the Zona from the parking lot got my vitamin V along the way. Went to the alley first and got coffee, checked out the street scene.

I did not see very many street chicas that got my attention so I headed to HK bar and the place was packed. Bought beer at the door and sat down at one of the dance Islands, while sitting there I met this taller tanned girl with long jet black hair from Mazatlan.

She called her self Brietza. She seemed to be in her mid 30's to me as she had kind of a rough looking face but not ugly, she has a very athletic looking body with fake titties. I would give her a 7 at best due to her face but not ugly, just looked like she been out in the sun allot and had that weathered look.

The vitamin V was kicking in and she had a pretty nice personality and spoke ok English so I asked her how much for an hour. She said $100. 00 so off we went. This chick was pretty cool, smart with good humor. She slapped on the condom and started out with BJ and then asked me to do her doggie. I pounded her long and hard until I blew. Kicked back and talked for a bit until I was up again. She started out with condom BJ again, back to doggie and then, missionary, and down to sideways missionary, not even sure what that position is called, she was on her back with one leg up and over while I as on my side and I pounded away as hard as I could. It took me while but I finally blew.

Back down and headed over to one of the taco shops and got a 2 fish and one shrimp taco, best I have had in a while and for four only bucks.

Cruised through a few of the other clubs and did not see anything the interest me and back to the alley and pickings were still pretty slim, most of the girls I saw seemed mostly 3 and 4's by me. But I finally found one that I knew and have not been with in about 3 to 5 years, she calls her self Sissy or something like that. Very very short. Maybe 4'8? Long black hair, maybe in her late 20's by now and very small built all around built but not sickly thin but still cute. All, I would give her a 6 or 7 but not ugly at all just not that hot either, more of that girl next door look I guess.

Any way up to room and I couldn't believe how small she is, we did sin ropa, did not even talk about price. Stated out missionary and then went to cow girl, she felt very nice bouncing away on top of me and as light a feather, switched to doggy and realized I was having trouble Cumming and worried about knock on the door so back to missionary and I pounded her as hard as I could until I finally came. Man it felt good. Also to note she was telling me thank you like 4 or 5 times while I was hammering away and lightly kissing her. Business must be slow? I gave her 30 bucks and headed back to the street. Got me a few more beers in HK bar and watched the dance shows until about 11Pm I got in to a taxi and headed back. Line was very short and I was back home in my own bed by 12:45 AM

[Joe Arturo]

I got to Tijuana about 5 PM Friday afternoon and checked into Hotel Hacienda Del Santiago which is my hotel of choice as it is close to the action, is clean. They are supposed to have Wifi in about a month which will make it even better. Had exchanged messages with Guitarrefreak to have a couple of beers together, but we never could hook up.

Started out at Chicago Club. There is a gal in there that is half Japanese and half Mexican named Lisette that is really hot and I have been eyeing her for about a year, but she seemed to be always occupied in a booth with a guy for one or two drinks and upstairs. Back downstairs with another guy waiting for her. It seemed like there was always a line of guys waiting for her, so I had never had an opportunity to be with her. Friday night I found out why. I got to Chicago Club about 6 and asked Richard the mesero what time Lisette got to work. He said between 7 and 8 PM. I told him that I wanted a reservation to be her first for the night. Richard said no problem. I went out and had a couple of quesadillas con carne and was back at Chicago Club at 7.

Lisette showed up about 7:30 and Richard brought her to me. I bought her a couple of girlie drinks and we chit chatted for about half an hour. I speak pretty good Spanish so it is easy for me to chit chat with these gals. We went upstairs. I paid for an hour for the room as I am an old fart and it normally takes me almost an hour to come. The good providers love this and the bad providers complain about this."When are you going to come, etc.". I was a little disappointed at first as she put on a condom to do the blowjob. I really prefer BBBJ and usually don't repeat with those that only do CBJ. I told her that I wanted BBBJ in Spanish and she told me that she never does this. It was one of the best if not the best CBJ that I have ever had. She really knows what she is doing. Next we went to cowgirl, doggie style with me standing at the side of the bed, her on her back with me standing at the side of the bed and finish with mish with me blowing one of the biggest loads of my entire life. I looked at my watch and it we had only been together for 20 minutes. This never happens to me! She said that we have time to do it again if I have more condoms. I told her that I more condoms but didn't think that this old man could come again before the hour was over. She told me not to worry that she would take care of me. She had me lay on my stomach and gave me a massage with baby oil for about 10 minutes. She had me roll over, put on the cover and started with another incredible CBJ. She indeed took care of me and she made me come just before the knock on the door. I could not believe it!

Next I headed to Hong Kong where Guitarrefreak said he would be. We never found each other. I chatted with my bartender friend Fernando that I had known for several years when he was the daytime manager at Chicago Club. I was waiting for 11:00 PM to go back to my room, take a shower and wait for one of my favorites of Tijuana to show up to spend the night with me. She used to work at Chicago Club, but doesn't work anymore. She always spends one night with me when I am in Tijuana. She sent me a text message and told me that she would be late and would arrive at 1 AM as that was when her mother would be home to watch her kids. I headed to my room at midnight and she called me at 1 to tell me she had just arrived so I headed downstairs to meet her. She left at 3 PM on Saturday. She always does this and I always give her $200 and she never complains about this.

Next I put on my Chivas jersey and cap and headed to Hong Kong to watch the Chivas / Puebla game. The Chivas lost but so did America, so it was okay. Guitarrefreak and I were supposed to hook up at this time, but it never happened. Then I headed to my room to take a well deserved nap.

Last week one of my favorites from Mexicali (I have been mongering in Mexicali for several years and have lived there on and off) texted me and said she was now working in Tijuana at Amnesia. Now I have heard a lot about Amnesia, that it had the best looking women in town, but had never gone there as there is too much action in the zone. Saturday night I headed to Amnesia to visit with my friend. It was $8 to get in for which you get a "free" drink. It is a really fancy place, but as I entered I was disappointed as there was nothing in there hotter than the top gals at Hong Kong, Adelita or even Chicago and the girlie drinks are $10! Guitarrefreak was to meet me there, but I guess our timing was off. My friend sat down with me, I bought her a couple of drinks and asked her what time she got off of work. She said about 3 and to meet her at Sanborns at 3:30.

I got to Sanborns at 3:20 and she showed up at 3:30 and we taxied to my hotel. During the night she was complaining about Tijuana, that she doesn't have any friends there, that she misses her friends in Mexicali, etc. I was planning on heading to Mexicali on Sunday afternoon, so I told her that she could come with me if she wanted to. She said great and spent the night with me. Sunday morning, she headed to her hotel to get her suitcase. When she returned, we ate something at La Perla and headed out on the toll road for Mexicali. We got to Mexicali at about 5:30 Sunday afternoon and checked into a hotel. We went and had dinner and back to the room for some more good sport.

We got up this afternoon and as we were eating breakfast she gave me the normal line in Spanish."I think I am falling in love with you". I told her that I had told her when we first met in Mexicali that I wasn't looking for love, that everytime I had a girlfriend like her that I got hurt, and that it would never work out her being 20 and me being 64. She said she remembered that I had said that we could only be friends when we first met so we can be friends "with benefits".

I took her to the hotel where she lives in Mexicali. As she got out of the car I was expecting her to ask for money. I didn't offer any as I was testing her friends with benefits statement. She never asked for any, kissed me goodbye and asked when I was going to return to Mexicali. I told her soon. She headed into her hotel and I headed for the border crossing, which only had a 12 minute wait and headed for home.

I wish that every weekend could be as good as this one, but know that most will not be.

Have fun out there and be safe!

[MadisonGuy]

Great report Joe, how did you like Amnesia. I've walked in a couple times but never even stayed for a drink because the quality was so poor. The last time there was a girl over 200lbs working right at the front area I saw her and did a fast 180. The strip clubs in Rosarito have much better talent than I have seen there, but every night could be different. New Body is a really cool laid back place to have a beer you might want to check that out sometime you just walk past Ticuan from Sanborns and it's on a bend on the left hand side. That lizette sounded great, you should try Cindy or Sindy at HK, she was similar to your report, tall dark hair very pretty college girl with no flaws on the body.


I got to Tijuana about 5 PM Friday afternoon and checked into Hotel Hacienda Del Santiago which is my hotel of choice as it is close to the action, is clean. They are supposed to have Wifi in about a month which will make it even better. Had exchanged messages with Guitarrefreak to have a couple of beers together, but we never could hook up.

Started out at Chicago Club. There is a gal in there that is half Japanese and half Mexican named Lisette that is really hot and I have been eyeing her for about a year, but she seemed to be always occupied in a booth with a guy for one or two drinks and upstairs. Back downstairs with another guy waiting for her. It seemed like there was always a line of guys waiting for her, so I had never had an opportunity to be with her. Friday night I found out why. I got to Chicago Club about 6 and asked Richard the mesero what time Lisette got to work. He said between 7 and 8 PM. I told him that I wanted a reservation to be her first for the night. Richard said no problem. I went out and had a couple of quesadillas con carne and was back at Chicago Club at 7.

Lisette showed up about 7:30 and Richard brought her to me. I bought her a couple of girlie drinks and we chit chatted for about half an hour. I speak pretty good Spanish so it is easy for me to chit chat with these gals. We went upstairs. I paid for an hour for the room as I am an old fart and it normally takes me almost an hour to come. The good providers love this and the bad providers complain about this."When are you going to come, etc.". I was a little disappointed at first as she put on a condom to do the blowjob. I really prefer BBBJ and usually don't repeat with those that only do CBJ. I told her that I wanted BBBJ in Spanish and she told me that she never does this. It was one of the best if not the best CBJ that I have ever had. She really knows what she is doing. Next we went to cowgirl, doggie style with me standing at the side of the bed, her on her back with me standing at the side of the bed and finish with mish with me blowing one of the biggest loads of my entire life. I looked at my watch and it we had only been together for 20 minutes. This never happens to me! She said that we have time to do it again if I have more condoms. I told her that I more condoms but didn't think that this old man could come again before the hour was over. She told me not to worry that she would take care of me. She had me lay on my stomach and gave me a massage with baby oil for about 10 minutes. She had me roll over, put on the cover and started with another incredible CBJ. She indeed took care of me and she made me come just before the knock on the door. I could not believe it!

Next I headed to Hong Kong where Guitarrefreak said he would be. We never found each other. I chatted with my bartender friend Fernando that I had known for several years when he was the daytime manager at Chicago Club. I was waiting for 11:00 PM to go back to my room, take a shower and wait for one of my favorites of Tijuana to show up to spend the night with me. She used to work at Chicago Club, but doesn't work anymore. She always spends one night with me when I am in Tijuana. She sent me a text message and told me that she would be late and would arrive at 1 AM as that was when her mother would be home to watch her kids. I headed to my room at midnight and she called me at 1 to tell me she had just arrived so I headed downstairs to meet her. She left at 3 PM on Saturday. She always does this and I always give her $200 and she never complains about this.

Next I put on my Chivas jersey and cap and headed to Hong Kong to watch the Chivas / Puebla game. The Chivas lost but so did America, so it was okay. Guitarrefreak and I were supposed to hook up at this time, but it never happened. Then I headed to my room to take a well deserved nap.

Last week one of my favorites from Mexicali (I have been mongering in Mexicali for several years and have lived there on and off) texted me and said she was now working in Tijuana at Amnesia. Now I have heard a lot about Amnesia, that it had the best looking women in town, but had never gone there as there is too much action in the zone. Saturday night I headed to Amnesia to visit with my friend. It was $8 to get in for which you get a "free" drink. It is a really fancy place, but as I entered I was disappointed as there was nothing in there hotter than the top gals at Hong Kong, Adelita or even Chicago and the girlie drinks are $10! Guitarrefreak was to meet me there, but I guess our timing was off. My friend sat down with me, I bought her a couple of drinks and asked her what time she got off of work. She said about 3 and to meet her at Sanborns at 3:30.

I got to Sanborns at 3:20 and she showed up at 3:30 and we taxied to my hotel. During the night she was complaining about Tijuana, that she doesn't have any friends there, that she misses her friends in Mexicali, etc. I was planning on heading to Mexicali on Sunday afternoon, so I told her that she could come with me if she wanted to. She said great and spent the night with me. Sunday morning, she headed to her hotel to get her suitcase. When she returned, we ate something at La Perla and headed out on the toll road for Mexicali. We got to Mexicali at about 5:30 Sunday afternoon and checked into a hotel. We went and had dinner and back to the room for some more good sport.

We got up this afternoon and as we were eating breakfast she gave me the normal line in Spanish."I think I am falling in love with you". I told her that I had told her when we first met in Mexicali that I wasn't looking for love, that everytime I had a girlfriend like her that I got hurt, and that it would never work out her being 20 and me being 64. She said she remembered that I had said that we could only be friends when we first met so we can be friends "with benefits".

I took her to the hotel where she lives in Mexicali. As she got out of the car I was expecting her to ask for money. I didn't offer any as I was testing her friends with benefits statement. She never asked for any, kissed me goodbye and asked when I was going to return to Mexicali. I told her soon. She headed into her hotel and I headed for the border crossing, which only had a 12 minute wait and headed for home.

I wish that every weekend could be as good as this one, but know that most will not be.

Have fun out there and be safe!

[Guitarrefreak]

Glad to hear you had an awesome time Joe.

Sorry we never got to meet, I felt really bad. What turned out in the case of HK, was that my phone has absolutely no reception once within the curtains, and I had to constantly walk in an out to receive / send messages. By the time I got the message you were next to the band, I think it was pretty late in the night already. First round beer is on me next time and we will probably have to agree on a time in advance.

On Amnesia the next day, I cannot recall what happened, still trying to piece together all the pockets of memory. I don't know if it was my own tolerance problem or the number of tequilas we downed in a super short time span, but I got really shit faced, just plain fucking bizarre. I never got to be of much use that night.

Have my own little reports to share from the last few days. But will do so once I recover from all this first.


I got to Tijuana about 5 PM Friday afternoon and checked into Hotel Hacienda Del Santiago which is my hotel of choice as it is close to the action, is clean. They are supposed to have Wifi in about a month which will make it even better. Had exchanged messages with Guitarrefreak to have a couple of beers together, but we never could hook up.

Started out at Chicago Club. There is a gal in there that is half Japanese and half Mexican named Lisette that is really hot and I have been eyeing her for about a year, but she seemed to be always occupied in a booth with a guy for one or two drinks and upstairs. Back downstairs with another guy waiting for her. It seemed like there was always a line of guys waiting for her, so I had never had an opportunity to be with her. Friday night I found out why. I got to Chicago Club about 6 and asked Richard the mesero what time Lisette got to work. He said between 7 and 8 PM. I told him that I wanted a reservation to be her first for the night. Richard said no problem. I went out and had a couple of quesadillas con carne and was back at Chicago Club at 7.

Lisette showed up about 7:30 and Richard brought her to me. I bought her a couple of girlie drinks and we chit chatted for about half an hour. I speak pretty good Spanish so it is easy for me to chit chat with these gals. We went upstairs. I paid for an hour for the room as I am an old fart and it normally takes me almost an hour to come. The good providers love this and the bad providers complain about this."When are you going to come, etc.". I was a little disappointed at first as she put on a condom to do the blowjob. I really prefer BBBJ and usually don't repeat with those that only do CBJ. I told her that I wanted BBBJ in Spanish and she told me that she never does this. It was one of the best if not the best CBJ that I have ever had. She really knows what she is doing. Next we went to cowgirl, doggie style with me standing at the side of the bed, her on her back with me standing at the side of the bed and finish with mish with me blowing one of the biggest loads of my entire life. I looked at my watch and it we had only been together for 20 minutes. This never happens to me! She said that we have time to do it again if I have more condoms. I told her that I more condoms but didn't think that this old man could come again before the hour was over. She told me not to worry that she would take care of me. She had me lay on my stomach and gave me a massage with baby oil for about 10 minutes. She had me roll over, put on the cover and started with another incredible CBJ. She indeed took care of me and she made me come just before the knock on the door. I could not believe it!

Next I headed to Hong Kong where Guitarrefreak said he would be. We never found each other. I chatted with my bartender friend Fernando that I had known for several years when he was the daytime manager at Chicago Club. I was waiting for 11:00 PM to go back to my room, take a shower and wait for one of my favorites of Tijuana to show up to spend the night with me. She used to work at Chicago Club, but doesn't work anymore. She always spends one night with me when I am in Tijuana. She sent me a text message and told me that she would be late and would arrive at 1 AM as that was when her mother would be home to watch her kids. I headed to my room at midnight and she called me at 1 to tell me she had just arrived so I headed downstairs to meet her. She left at 3 PM on Saturday. She always does this and I always give her $200 and she never complains about this.

Next I put on my Chivas jersey and cap and headed to Hong Kong to watch the Chivas / Puebla game. The Chivas lost but so did America, so it was okay. Guitarrefreak and I were supposed to hook up at this time, but it never happened. Then I headed to my room to take a well deserved nap.

Last week one of my favorites from Mexicali (I have been mongering in Mexicali for several years and have lived there on and off) texted me and said she was now working in Tijuana at Amnesia. Now I have heard a lot about Amnesia, that it had the best looking women in town, but had never gone there as there is too much action in the zone. Saturday night I headed to Amnesia to visit with my friend. It was $8 to get in for which you get a "free" drink. It is a really fancy place, but as I entered I was disappointed as there was nothing in there hotter than the top gals at Hong Kong, Adelita or even Chicago and the girlie drinks are $10! Guitarrefreak was to meet me there, but I guess our timing was off. My friend sat down with me, I bought her a couple of drinks and asked her what time she got off of work. She said about 3 and to meet her at Sanborns at 3:30.

I got to Sanborns at 3:20 and she showed up at 3:30 and we taxied to my hotel. During the night she was complaining about Tijuana, that she doesn't have any friends there, that she misses her friends in Mexicali, etc. I was planning on heading to Mexicali on Sunday afternoon, so I told her that she could come with me if she wanted to. She said great and spent the night with me. Sunday morning, she headed to her hotel to get her suitcase. When she returned, we ate something at La Perla and headed out on the toll road for Mexicali. We got to Mexicali at about 5:30 Sunday afternoon and checked into a hotel. We went and had dinner and back to the room for some more good sport.

We got up this afternoon and as we were eating breakfast she gave me the normal line in Spanish."I think I am falling in love with you". I told her that I had told her when we first met in Mexicali that I wasn't looking for love, that everytime I had a girlfriend like her that I got hurt, and that it would never work out her being 20 and me being 64. She said she remembered that I had said that we could only be friends when we first met so we can be friends "with benefits".

I took her to the hotel where she lives in Mexicali. As she got out of the car I was expecting her to ask for money. I didn't offer any as I was testing her friends with benefits statement. She never asked for any, kissed me goodbye and asked when I was going to return to Mexicali. I told her soon. She headed into her hotel and I headed for the border crossing, which only had a 12 minute wait and headed for home.

I wish that every weekend could be as good as this one, but know that most will not be.

Have fun out there and be safe!

[Guitarrefreak]

All memories are a little fuzzy, but from my previous post, I mentioned about a freebie I received on Saturday.

That night, she actually wanted me to spend the night with her which I did not, for non-obvious reasons and she was upset, but cool about it.

Yesterday, I went down there to have a regular late afternoon date with her, one thing led to another, and when it was about time for me to leave, she started tearing up, boy, this is really a first experience for me (in mexico that is) , and she really poured her emotions out, and when I told her I needed to work the next day, or I have no money, she actually opened up her purse and asked me how much money, she pay for me.

I guess I did start to grow fond of her, seeing her genuine (whether its real or not) to me, it is a shame she is returning to school next week somewhere else.

After all the fuss, I did leave for a while, and came back 3 hrs later (2 hrs later than I promised her) and we didn't say anything, just went to the room and made sweet love for 2 hrs, all the time total GFE, and we did not say much, though afterwards when we were cuddling, I did tell her I still could not stay, she was upset, but didn't make a fuss, and even when we said our goodbyes at the hotel lobby, she dragged me back to give me another big hug and wet kiss in front of the SGs.

This romance thing is killing me.

Now for the fucked up part, originally I had to leave early not because of work, but because I set up a date with my ATF#1 who "flaked" from our date last Thursday, what it turns out is that, she did not receive the text message that I sent her to change to Thursday, so she actually went on Friday (according to her, she may have lost her phone while on a taxi back that night but in the past, I know her phone has been shoddy receiving texts from me) , anyway, what reassured me that her phone was really lost is because she actually called me from payphones to confirm where I was and that we were meeting, what a cutie.

Anyway, she showed up at the restaurant, looking all nice and clean, with her bubbly personality, I was hooked, but at the back of my mind, thinking about the girl who just cried for me, I could not really focus on the dinner but we still exchanged some sweet talk and after 2 hrs, I told her I had to leave to grab my buddy from zona norte, she gave me a look of shock and said "no hotel?"

That was funny, I told her sex is not always necessary, and she seemed to understand and agree, but while we were on our way walking to grab a taxi, we conveniently passed by a hotel at which point she said, see'mon lets go for a quick one, I want to make love to you". Dudes, my mind was racing there, cannot compute so many different things at the same time, eventually, my little brother prevailed and we went for a quickie. As usual, she was cute and bubbly and looked great naked, but because I was in a rush, we skipped the shower, which was a bit of a turn off for me but, that is fine, when we were done and being all intimate, I grabbed 100 rolled in 20s to give to her, I don't know if I was mistaken, but she seemed to avoid eye contact and seemingly wanted to reject it, but I offered to her again and at which point, she did not touch the money, but just gestured for me to put in her bra,

Not sure about this, but will our fellow mongers practiced in the art of wooing hispanic girls comment if using the hands to take the money will mean its business, whereas them letting you leave it on them is more like a "friendly helpout"? I don't know, maybe I am overanalyzing

Anyway, after we were done with that and left the hotel, I hauled ass back to meet with the girl earlier to continue what I described earlier.

Busting your nuts 2 times with 2 very passionate girls in the span of 1 hr is great but not recommended for the faint of heart.

The experience from last night is so confusing, that if I could dig a hole for myself to sit in and ponder, I would.

[MadisonGuy]

Well there you know you had a girl that was into you, when you're ready to give you money then you know you've passed the customer stage. Unfortunately that does not mean you can change this girl into someone else, the second you do something that makes her think twice she'll move on. Personally I wouldn't waste much time with the second girl she's still all about the money and you can find a girl who's not about the money. I'd keep in contact with the first girl if you do like her because that will be a fun and fair relationship, I just advise you never start to think it can be more than a booty call / friends with benefits type thing. Maybe you can stop and see her on your backpacking trip! In my opinion though you really put too much into the texts and phone calls, if a girl stands you up that's a big deal because you wasted your time, but if she just doesn't text or call for awhile who cares. I would love to avoid that part in any relationship and spend time texting and calling people who can make me money, not those who eat it up.


All memories are a little fuzzy, but from my previous post, I mentioned about a freebie I received on Saturday.

That night, she actually wanted me to spend the night with her which I did not, for non-obvious reasons and she was upset, but cool about it.

Yesterday, I went down there to have a regular late afternoon date with her, one thing led to another, and when it was about time for me to leave, she started tearing up, boy, this is really a first experience for me (in mexico that is) , and she really poured her emotions out, and when I told her I needed to work the next day, or I have no money, she actually opened up her purse and asked me how much money, she pay for me.

I guess I did start to grow fond of her, seeing her genuine (whether its real or not) to me, it is a shame she is returning to school next week somewhere else.

After all the fuss, I did leave for a while, and came back 3 hrs later (2 hrs later than I promised her) and we didn't say anything, just went to the room and made sweet love for 2 hrs, all the time total GFE, and we did not say much, though afterwards when we were cuddling, I did tell her I still could not stay, she was upset, but didn't make a fuss, and even when we said our goodbyes at the hotel lobby, she dragged me back to give me another big hug and wet kiss in front of the SGs.

This romance thing is killing me.

Now for the fucked up part, originally I had to leave early not because of work, but because I set up a date with my ATF#1 who "flaked" from our date last Thursday, what it turns out is that, she did not receive the text message that I sent her to change to Thursday, so she actually went on Friday (according to her, she may have lost her phone while on a taxi back that night but in the past, I know her phone has been shoddy receiving texts from me) , anyway, what reassured me that her phone was really lost is because she actually called me from payphones to confirm where I was and that we were meeting, what a cutie.

Anyway, she showed up at the restaurant, looking all nice and clean, with her bubbly personality, I was hooked, but at the back of my mind, thinking about the girl who just cried for me, I could not really focus on the dinner but we still exchanged some sweet talk and after 2 hrs, I told her I had to leave to grab my buddy from zona norte, she gave me a look of shock and said "no hotel?"

That was funny, I told her sex is not always necessary, and she seemed to understand and agree, but while we were on our way walking to grab a taxi, we conveniently passed by a hotel at which point she said, see'mon lets go for a quick one, I want to make love to you". Dudes, my mind was racing there, cannot compute so many different things at the same time, eventually, my little brother prevailed and we went for a quickie. As usual, she was cute and bubbly and looked great naked, but because I was in a rush, we skipped the shower, which was a bit of a turn off for me but, that is fine, when we were done and being all intimate, I grabbed 100 rolled in 20s to give to her, I don't know if I was mistaken, but she seemed to avoid eye contact and seemingly wanted to reject it, but I offered to her again and at which point, she did not touch the money, but just gestured for me to put in her bra,

Not sure about this, but will our fellow mongers practiced in the art of wooing hispanic girls comment if using the hands to take the money will mean its business, whereas them letting you leave it on them is more like a "friendly helpout"? I don't know, maybe I am overanalyzing

Anyway, after we were done with that and left the hotel, I hauled ass back to meet with the girl earlier to continue what I described earlier.

Busting your nuts 2 times with 2 very passionate girls in the span of 1 hr is great but not recommended for the faint of heart.

The experience from last night is so confusing, that if I could dig a hole for myself to sit in and ponder, I would.

[Keg]

Not sure about this, but will our fellow mongers practiced in the art of wooing hispanic girls comment if using the hands to take the money will mean its business, whereas them letting you leave it on them is more like a "friendly helpout"? I don't know, maybe I am overanalyzingSi, no preocupa.

[Mr Sassinak]

Greetings fellow mongers.

I'll be spending my first time in Tijuana either this evening or tomorrow evening (in SD on business) and can use a guide.

PM me with your contact details so we can meet up.

Thanks.

Sassinak

[Mr Sassinak]

Excuse me if these questions are rather elementary, but some of the numbers tossed around (200. 300) are they in Pesos or dollars? Also is it better to work from Pesos or Dollars? (Pesos is more exact but there are currency conversion elements one has to contend with).

Also would earlier in the day / week be better for a newbie vs. Later in the day / week?

Thanks.

Sassinak

[Dcell75]

Excuse me if these questions are rather elementary, but some of the numbers tossed around (200. 300) are they in Pesos or dollars? Also is it better to work from Pesos or Dollars? (Pesos is more exact but there are currency conversion elements one has to contend with).

Also would earlier in the day / week be better for a newbie vs. Later in the day / week?

Thanks.

SassinakI have never paid 200 or 300 dollars for a girl in Tijuana. Those numbers are in pesos. SG girls are 20 dollars and usually 3-6 dollars for the room. The room is only good for 20-30 minutes. Always discuss the terms of your meeting so you don't get disappointed when she asks for an extra 5 dollars per position or 5 to take her top off.

BG range from 60-80 dollars with the room costing between 11-15 dollars. The room is also just good for 20-30 minutes.

As far as pesos vs dollars, I always use dollars. Pesos is probably the best way to go but I'd rather skip the hassle of exchanging currency. I have never had a problem using dollars.

Safety issues: for a newbie I think it's safer during the day but I think it is also safe at night. I think it's just like any city, just use common sense. There is less of a crowd during weekdays as is expected.

[Super Gato]

Excuse me if these questions are rather elementary, but some of the numbers tossed around (200. 300) are they in Pesos or dollars? Also is it better to work from Pesos or Dollars? (Pesos is more exact but there are currency conversion elements one has to contend with).

Also would earlier in the day / week be better for a newbie vs. Later in the day / week?

Thanks.

SassinakThe major gringo-centric bars and the girls inside happily accept dollars and for the most part keep their USD prices set and adjust their peso prices to match the exchange rate taking away any benefit of fluctuations in currency. Away from the zona pesos are more common. But smart girls, meseros and an taxi drivers will know the exchange rate. Some guys will attempt to use paying in pesos as a way to negotiate a price (say she asks for $60US, and he counter with 600 pesos. Again, the smart girls know that the exchange rate isn't 10:1. Most border places use 12:1 these days as that's close to the retail exchange rates found around town). Some on these boards will argue to always pay in pesos but unless you're spending a lot of time and money in town, you might as well just pay in dollars.

Unless I'm in the interior of Mexico I'll pay in dollars for another reason: I'm terrible at paying for things with coins so I get home with lots of 5 and 10 peso coins. Many exchange houses. Especially on the US side. Won't take coins. I've gotten better at spending coins while I accumulate them but I still have a jar with hundreds of pesos in money. And even the locals get $1 bills to tip the strippers.

When you come to Zona Norte is up to you as a veteran or newbie. Earlier in the week and during daylight hours is going to be less crowded in terms of women and mongers. You may want to walk through the area during the day if it makes you feel better, but if you ask me, the area right in front of Hong Kong / Adelita and its alley is pretty safe. The hotter girls work in the bars at night and on weekends because thats when there's more money to be made. My favorite time to visit is Thursday nights since usually the A-list girls are working, but there are fewer guys there to crowd up the bars.

[Joe Arturo]

All memories are a little fuzzy, but from my previous post, I mentioned about a freebie I received on Saturday.

That night, she actually wanted me to spend the night with her which I did not, for non-obvious reasons and she was upset, but cool about it.

Yesterday, I went down there to have a regular late afternoon date with her, one thing led to another, and when it was about time for me to leave, she started tearing up, boy, this is really a first experience for me (in mexico that is) , and she really poured her emotions out, and when I told her I needed to work the next day, or I have no money, she actually opened up her purse and asked me how much money, she pay for me.

I guess I did start to grow fond of her, seeing her genuine (whether its real or not) to me, it is a shame she is returning to school next week somewhere else.

After all the fuss, I did leave for a while, and came back 3 hrs later (2 hrs later than I promised her) and we didn't say anything, just went to the room and made sweet love for 2 hrs, all the time total GFE, and we did not say much, though afterwards when we were cuddling, I did tell her I still could not stay, she was upset, but didn't make a fuss, and even when we said our goodbyes at the hotel lobby, she dragged me back to give me another big hug and wet kiss in front of the SGs.

This romance thing is killing me.

Now for the fucked up part, originally I had to leave early not because of work, but because I set up a date with my ATF#1 who "flaked" from our date last Thursday, what it turns out is that, she did not receive the text message that I sent her to change to Thursday, so she actually went on Friday (according to her, she may have lost her phone while on a taxi back that night but in the past, I know her phone has been shoddy receiving texts from me) , anyway, what reassured me that her phone was really lost is because she actually called me from payphones to confirm where I was and that we were meeting, what a cutie.

Anyway, she showed up at the restaurant, looking all nice and clean, with her bubbly personality, I was hooked, but at the back of my mind, thinking about the girl who just cried for me, I could not really focus on the dinner but we still exchanged some sweet talk and after 2 hrs, I told her I had to leave to grab my buddy from zona norte, she gave me a look of shock and said "no hotel?"

That was funny, I told her sex is not always necessary, and she seemed to understand and agree, but while we were on our way walking to grab a taxi, we conveniently passed by a hotel at which point she said, see'mon lets go for a quick one, I want to make love to you". Dudes, my mind was racing there, cannot compute so many different things at the same time, eventually, my little brother prevailed and we went for a quickie. As usual, she was cute and bubbly and looked great naked, but because I was in a rush, we skipped the shower, which was a bit of a turn off for me but, that is fine, when we were done and being all intimate, I grabbed 100 rolled in 20s to give to her, I don't know if I was mistaken, but she seemed to avoid eye contact and seemingly wanted to reject it, but I offered to her again and at which point, she did not touch the money, but just gestured for me to put in her bra,

Not sure about this, but will our fellow mongers practiced in the art of wooing hispanic girls comment if using the hands to take the money will mean its business, whereas them letting you leave it on them is more like a "friendly helpout"? I don't know, maybe I am overanalyzing

Anyway, after we were done with that and left the hotel, I hauled ass back to meet with the girl earlier to continue what I described earlier.

Busting your nuts 2 times with 2 very passionate girls in the span of 1 hr is great but not recommended for the faint of heart.

The experience from last night is so confusing, that if I could dig a hole for myself to sit in and ponder, I would.You indeed are overanalyzing everything. I never give the money directly to the "service provider" I always leave it on the table under her purse.

Be careful with the freebies. I have experienced this several times (including last weekend). The next step is they tell you that their mother / son / daughter / self needs an operation and can you please help out with this. Something like this always happens. Their number one interest is to separate you from your money and the freebie is usually a setup for a big score.

I will be in Tijuana tommorrow (Thursday) afternoon, if you happen to be their send me a text and we will have a couple of cervezas.

[Phordphan]

The major gringo-centric bars and the girls inside happily accept dollars and for the most part keep their USD prices set and adjust their peso prices to match the exchange rate taking away any benefit of fluctuations in currency. Away from the zona pesos are more common. But smart girls, meseros and an taxi drivers will know the exchange rate. Some guys will attempt to use paying in pesos as a way to negotiate a price (say she asks for $60US, and he counter with 600 pesos. Again, the smart girls know that the exchange rate isn't 10:1. Most border places use 12:1 these days as that's close to the retail exchange rates found around town). Some on these boards will argue to always pay in pesos but unless you're spending a lot of time and money in town, you might as well just pay in dollars.In all the time I've been going, I think I can count on one hand, with fingers left over, the number of girls who adjust their prices to the dollar / peso exchange rate.

It has been ages since some chica said "Sesenta dolares", I said "No tengo dolares. Tengo pesos", and she comes back with "Ooh... Wel... Let's see... 60 x 12... Hmm... I think that's uhh... 700? No, wait... 720 pesos... Yes, that's right... 720 pesos, corazon." :D

In the real world, she says "OK. Sesenta pesos. Lez go the hroom"

[Guitarrefreak]

Dude, you are tempting me to head down. I just got back tonight to san diego, my buddy wanted to give his favorita a farewell, and I wanted to give mine a final one too (Since she extended her stay because some fucking guy offered to pay her some amount to stay for another week) , but anyway, this is no place for jealousy.

She did tell me about her family today, but surprisingly, she tells me that she is fiercely independent and chases whatever her heart tells her, no mention of money.

Ahhh. What a rare find.

(fortunately this girl has temporarily helped me to move my mind off my ATF #1 from amnesia for the time being)


You indeed are overanalyzing everything. I never give the money directly to the "service provider" I always leave it on the table under her purse.

Be careful with the freebies. I have experienced this several times (including last weekend). The next step is they tell you that their mother / son / daughter / self needs an operation and can you please help out with this. Something like this always happens. Their number one interest is to separate you from your money and the freebie is usually a setup for a big score.

I will be in Tijuana tommorrow (Thursday) afternoon, if you happen to be their send me a text and we will have a couple of cervezas.

[MadisonGuy]

I'm just curious Guitar, you said you have a GF here state side I thought. These girls in Tijuana seem to be in your mind a lot plus all the texting you do, how do you manage keeping it together with your GF. I know it's possible but usually it's the type of guy that just sees it as sex and good times. You puzzle me because you seem so determined to have a relationship with these girls but yet you already have one in the states. I wish we would've met up I probably wouldn't be as puzzled. You remind me of a couple of my good friends here, I just hope you don't let your infatuations get you into trouble.


Dude, you are tempting me to head down. I just got back tonight to san diego, my buddy wanted to give his favorita a farewell, and I wanted to give mine a final one too (Since she extended her stay because some fucking guy offered to pay her some amount to stay for another week) , but anyway, this is no place for jealousy.

She did tell me about her family today, but surprisingly, she tells me that she is fiercely independent and chases whatever her heart tells her, no mention of money.

Ahhh. What a rare find.

(fortunately this girl has temporarily helped me to move my mind off my ATF #1 from amnesia for the time being)

[Margaya]

Folks,

I noticed the rates for rooms at the bars for 20-30 minutes but was wondering what are the options to have girls for an hour or two at a decent safe hotel? And while we are at where to find the girls from and how much is it likely to cost per hour?

Thanks

[Guitarrefreak]

Thanks dude, the short answer is, I don't know. I love my gf, very much, very very much and I will not replace her for anything else in the world.

The only explanation I can come up with for myself is, maybe these latinas are giving me something I have never ever felt before, and in return, I like to make them feel "special" (yeah money talks I know)

As far as whether I want to have a relationship with these girls, I honestly don't know, maybe I will find out more after talking to why'all old timers, and for me these days though, sex or no sex, is no grande problema, and I know I am too young to be saying that, which, in itself, is a grande problema.

On keeping it together with my gf, I guess it is just the dynamics of being in the kind of relationship I am in, just like whoever here with wives.

I hope my infatuations don't get me in trouble too.


I'm just curious Guitar, you said you have a GF here state side I thought. These girls in Tijuana seem to be in your mind a lot plus all the texting you do, how do you manage keeping it together with your GF. I know it's possible but usually it's the type of guy that just sees it as sex and good times. You puzzle me because you seem so determined to have a relationship with these girls but yet you already have one in the states. I wish we would've met up I probably wouldn't be as puzzled. You remind me of a couple of my good friends here, I just hope you don't let your infatuations get you into trouble.

[Artisttyp]

Folks,

I noticed the rates for rooms at the bars for 20-30 minutes but was wondering what are the options to have girls for an hour or two at a decent safe hotel? And while we are at where to find the girls from and how much is it likely to cost per hour?

ThanksAnything is possible in Tijuana but like "everything" it depends on you. If you intend to spend the night then somewhere like Hotel Ticuan would be a nice place to bring a date. Tijuana has escort services which can be found in the escort thread. They range anywhere from $150. 300US per few hours.

If you have game and stay out late drinking there is a chance you can meet girls near the end of their shift (4am) who wouldn't mind the extra work. It depends but you need to be at the right place at the right time. I would also assume you would need to buy them "fichas" prior to even discussing the possibility. That could prove to be expensive. Again it depends on you.

Conclusion:

Tijuana is mainly known for ST romps from bar girls or street girls. If you have the money to spend on an escort look at the reviews and pick one. The other option is to get a "F#$%k pad in the zona and re use the room for your sessions.

In general there are better places for the type of mongering you are looking for. The set up is a little different in Tijuana. It's all about making a fast peso and getting the next guy in.

[SuperSteve]

Gfreak:

The hook is being set.

P4P women are pro's at making one believe that they are "giving men something" they have never felt (been given) before. It costs them nothing, and the rewards can be very great. Ask yourself, what apparently is it that they "seem" to give you that you are currently lacking from your real relationship? If they have been in the game for anytime, and are good at it, they can rap better than Snoop. Having been with so many men, they can sense the buttons on you to push, and will push them at will. A part of that is slow playing a person. I even use that on the ladies in Tijuana. I often will not session with them, but laugh, and play around with them. They see m taking other ladies arriba, but do no understand why I don't take them. Finally I get the,"Well are you ever going to go arriba with me"? When we do it is usually a very good session for a multiple of reasons. My suggestion to you would be play the game as they play it, but on your terms. The person that cares the most in a relationship is the one that loses.

If your current GF is not giving you this "something", whether it be great head, understanding, etc, talk to her about it. If your current GF is not your best friend, that you can discuss anything with, you probably are not going to make it long term anyway. You sound like you are not wanting to lose your GF, but at some point you will "slip up" somehow, and have some splanin' to do. Hopefully it will not cost you a real relationship.

Again, don't spend more money than you can afford to lose. Consider the elation of this "short term" feeling, it may be the downfall of your real relationship. This feeling can be like a drug. It will never be better than the first time, but you will try to compensate for that by doing it more often.

When you are not thinking a thought that serves the highest purpose for who you are, change that thought immediately to one that actually serves you, and makes you who you really are.

Health & happiness to you, and all!

[Margaya]

Wow!

Awesome reply Artisttyp, you answered more than I asked and expected. This is the kind of replies, I wish, we could get on this forum.

Hats off to you Sire.


Anything is possible in Tijuana but like "everything" it depends on you. If you intend to spend the night then somewhere like Hotel Ticuan would be a nice place to bring a date. Tijuana has escort services which can be found in the escort thread. They range anywhere from $150. 300US per few hours.

If you have game and stay out late drinking there is a chance you can meet girls near the end of their shift (4am) who wouldn't mind the extra work. It depends but you need to be at the right place at the right time. I would also assume you would need to buy them "fichas" prior to even discussing the possibility. That could prove to be expensive. Again it depends on you.

Conclusion:

Tijuana is mainly known for ST romps from bar girls or street girls. If you have the money to spend on an escort look at the reviews and pick one. The other option is to get a "F#$%k pad in the zona and re use the room for your sessions.

In general there are better places for the type of mongering you are looking for. The set up is a little different in Tijuana. It's all about making a fast peso and getting the next guy in.

[Guitarrefreak]

I blame it on the curse of being a scorpio.

Actually, again, thanks for your advice, its all wisdom here, not contesting any of that. Actually, seeing this new girl who cried for me, I am actually not obsessed / infatuated with her, I was with the girl from amnesia, and this girl helped to pull me back from that obsession, things have sort of evened out for me. In some sense, she did me a huge favor.

As far as my own personal life, I don't know, there is nothing much to comment about it, it is what it is, and I will probably still go for these little adventures on my own and see what there is to offer outside the comfort of my home.


Gfreak:

The hook is being set.

P4P women are pro's at making one believe that they are "giving men something" they have never felt (been given) before. It costs them nothing, and the rewards can be very great. Ask yourself, what apparently is it that they "seem" to give you that you are currently lacking from your real relationship? If they have been in the game for anytime, and are good at it, they can rap better than Snoop. Having been with so many men, they can sense the buttons on you to push, and will push them at will. A part of that is slow playing a person. I even use that on the ladies in Tijuana. I often will not session with them, but laugh, and play around with them. They see m taking other ladies arriba, but do no understand why I don't take them. Finally I get the,"Well are you ever going to go arriba with me"? When we do it is usually a very good session for a multiple of reasons. My suggestion to you would be play the game as they play it, but on your terms. The person that cares the most in a relationship is the one that loses.

If your current GF is not giving you this "something", whether it be great head, understanding, etc, talk to her about it. If your current GF is not your best friend, that you can discuss anything with, you probably are not going to make it long term anyway. You sound like you are not wanting to lose your GF, but at some point you will "slip up" somehow, and have some splanin' to do. Hopefully it will not cost you a real relationship.

Again, don't spend more money than you can afford to lose. Consider the elation of this "short term" feeling, it may be the downfall of your real relationship. This feeling can be like a drug. It will never be better than the first time, but you will try to compensate for that by doing it more often.

When you are not thinking a thought that serves the highest purpose for who you are, change that thought immediately to one that actually serves you, and makes you who you really are.

Health & happiness to you, and all!

[Colbrotha]

Check It, This is a Copy and Paste Posting from Genio Della from the Colombian / Medellin Reports #8206. His one line conclusion is worthy of a mention and a read-over. Different country, same ho mentality, the Game don't stop, it only evolves. Enjoy the busted up English piece.


Ninfomane mentirosa.

Hi GUYS!

I have a funny story for ya,

I was in Colombia almost 1 month between July and August,

Second day I was there I tried a prepago in chicas lindas,

She told me I was the first customer. Next day I went out with her alone.

Without paying anything. But you know you can't trust a prepago.

So I took my laptop and began to look for a girl in internet I found on badoo a nice girl.

Nothing especial but I went to bello and get to know her,

Same night we were in my apartment, she acted like a girls that does everything in life.

All opposite of other girls. She made me get drunk and I fucked her even if she was not so willing.

In the morning she woke up and wanted to do it forever. But I was bothered by his behaviour she wouldn't let me go.

So I dated with her a few times, but I had to go to Cartagena so I left her even if she made me a lot of problems.

When I was in Cartagena she called me and she made such a theatre that I began to think this girls was really in love with.

Me, but something was missing, she told me she almost never had sex and she made me a lot of BBBJ without problems.

Even if I saw she wasn't so experienced. I went back to europe decided to leave her but when I called her.

Her sweet voice made me think I could give her a choice. So we went on. Now arrives the funny part.

She began to go out at night and I didn't bother about this. Unless from the fact that I night she called me drunk.

And told me I betraied her in Medellin. I knew I didn't do it so I understood that is conscience was not so clean.

I put an initial sum of 100mil pesos in a new cuenta created for the visa and woooow, after one week 70mil pesos were gone,

She always told me she didn't need money from me and she didn't ask me for money when I was there but I saw the.

Account summary and no doubt she was her to take the money. Plus she always.

Everyday spoke me about a different famale (she called it friend) friend she had. (but she acted like an almost virgin)

At this point I began to get fed up and I decided to enter via social engineering tecniques in her facebook account. And bingoooooooo.

This wonderful girl so sweet and in love is a nymphomane!

She kept speaking with other men told her best friend to go out and don't tell anyone.

What was happening so that I didn't get to know it.

Spoke with the male friend telling him that I am a problem and she couln't take more money.

From my account because I could have asked it.

Conclusions.

Woman that doesn't ask for money is going to cost more.

[Keg]

Hopefully nobody from our group here was in line during this shooting incident.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/sep/22/shooting-at-san-ysidro-border-crossing/

Be safe.

[MadisonGuy]

Yikes. I guess nobody told this kid he could've just walked through at the beach. Tomorrow I'll have to resize my image and throw it up on the board for those of you that don't know what it looks like at the ocean.


Hopefully nobody from our group here was in line during this shooting incident.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/sep/22/shooting-at-san-ysidro-border-crossing/

Be safe.

[Ninguno Especial]

Lot's of good posts the past few days, several in great length that contained replies as well as the entire quote of post replied to. This makes for a lot of scrolling, scrolling, scrolling that is needless and senseless IMO.

I realize not everyone knows how to click, highlight and delete but that's all it takes to shorten the quote and leave just a key item or 2 that you want to respond to. Unless you are going to address every single solitary sentence why on earth would you want to copy an entire post? I swear that the page up and down keys are beginning to stick on my keyboard due to extremely high usage.

Gentlemen, please think before you reply with a 14 paragraph quote por favor.

Gracias

[TomJackin]

Gentlemen, please think before you reply with a 14 paragraph quote por favor.Damn good idea. I also might add, please consult with Dr. Phil instead of ISG with personal issues.

[Phordphan]

Check It, This is a Copy and Paste Posting from Genio Della from the Colombian / Medellin Reports #8206. His one line conclusion is worthy of a mention and a read-over. Different country, same ho mentality, the Game don't stop, it only evolves. Enjoy the busted up English piece.

:D Yes! The only difference between sex for free, and sex you pay for is. . . The free sex costs you much more!

[TomJackin]

:D Yes! The only difference between sex for free, and sex you pay for is. The free sex costs you much more!Married twice. AHEM!

[Chris Long]

I am thinking of taking my first trip to Tijuana over Thanksgiving weekend. I have done a great deal of research here on this board and have found lots of valuable information, thank you to those of you who contributed information. I will be flying in to San Diego on Thanksgiving day and then taking the 992 bus to the trolley and taking the trolley to the boarder and then returning via the same route on Sunday afternoon for a 5: pm flight

My first question is, is Thanksgiving weekend a good time to visit Tijuana or will it be too crowded and prices to high due to the holiday.

My second question is if this is a good weekend to go how much should I budget for. My eyes may be bigger than my libido but I would like to session two to three times a day with girls while I am there.

Third question should I exchange my dollars before I leave and take all of the money I will need for the weekend with me. Should I take all of the money I will need for the weekend with me and exchange it once I get to Tijuana, if so where. Or should I just take enough for the first day and then get the rest from ATMs, is so what ATMs should I use, where are they located.

Fourth question if Thanksgiving weekend is a good time to go I would like to stay in Tijuana for the weekend, In my researche I have narrowed it down to the hotel cascadas the one used for the Hong Kong club, the hotel RIzo De Oro which I believe is above the Tropicana bar, the hotel Leyva which I believe is next to the Chicago club, or the hotel Ticuan which is the most expensive one. Which one would you recommend.

Fifth question where can I get Viagra preferably kemagra (sp?) in the zone and what would the price be.

Sixth question my flight leaves San Diego at 5. M on Sunday, I would like to have one last session early Sunday morning before I leave. Will any one be available Sunday morning, if so where.

Seventh question does the bus from the airport and the trolley run on Thanksgiving day.

Thank you very much for all of your help, if you are going to be there on Thanksgiving weekend let me know and I will buy you a beer.

Thanks

Chris

[MadisonGuy]

First answer is. I think I'll answer them all in general. Just like anywhere else mongering in the world there is no good or bad time, because each day is different. So my first question for you is, why would you fly to San Diego and put yourself on a budget for mongering? Lots of guys can drive there, myself I fly there like you. I do not think budget when I visit because I do not know when the next time I will be there is. In a weekend fri-Sunday I would normally spend around $1500 you could do it for a lot less and a lot more because you can pay $10 for a girl or $250, same with drinks, food, hotel. Very broad range. I personally would take a taxi if I was you, it's only $50. Why dink around with all that other stuff wasting valuable time? I've never purchased viagra, but if I did I would get it only from a pharmacy I think it runs around $20 for a couple pills, but you can buy it in the bathroom at HK so it's easy to find.

If there's one thing I recommend more than anything is not to stay in the zone, I love Ticuan but there are other hotels to pick also. I'm not saying mongers don't do it but I can not in a million years figure out how it's possible I have a hard time fucking in those nasty beds let alone sleeping down there. It is going to be loud, Tijuana never sleeps so for your last question you can get a girl at anytime. But I think you are under estimating the wait at the border you will probably have to leave the night before to make it to the airport in time Sunday and Monday morning are some of the busiest times. Also the train I think stops running from like 3-5am, could be wrong though. The money thing I personally would bring the cash with me, but you need to stay at a nice hotel with a safe then. The reason I say that is if you go to the ATM and it keeps your card (this is mexico not US it's very possible) you are most likely screwed. Well I would be I only know one of my cards pin numbers. There's a couple hotels on Revolution that are pretty cheap like $20 / night but I think they'd be really loud. Ticuan is $50 and they have all the bases covered you will be safe, feel comfortable, they have back up generators, it's a good place and only 10min walk to HK with viagra all along the way. Also a rub and tug across the street and amnesia and New Body within 4 blocks. Happy mongering, it's really a much better mongering destination than people give it credit for.


I am thinking of taking my first trip to Tijuana over Thanksgiving weekend. I have done a great deal of research here on this board and have found lots of valuable information, thank you to those of you who contributed information. I will be flying in to San Diego on Thanksgiving day and then taking the 992 bus to the trolley and taking the trolley to the boarder and then returning via the same route on Sunday afternoon for a 5: pm flight

My first question is, is Thanksgiving weekend a good time to visit Tijuana or will it be too crowded and prices to high due to the holiday.

My second question is if this is a good weekend to go how much should I budget for. My eyes may be bigger than my libido but I would like to session two to three times a day with girls while I am there.

Third question should I exchange my dollars before I leave and take all of the money I will need for the weekend with me. Should I take all of the money I will need for the weekend with me and exchange it once I get to Tijuana, if so where. Or should I just take enough for the first day and then get the rest from ATMs, is so what ATMs should I use, where are they located.

Fourth question if Thanksgiving weekend is a good time to go I would like to stay in Tijuana for the weekend, In my researche I have narrowed it down to the hotel cascadas the one used for the Hong Kong club, the hotel RIzo De Oro which I believe is above the Tropicana bar, the hotel Leyva which I believe is next to the Chicago club, or the hotel Ticuan which is the most expensive one. Which one would you recommend.

Fifth question where can I get Viagra preferably kemagra (sp?) in the zone and what would the price be.

Sixth question my flight leaves San Diego at 5. M on Sunday, I would like to have one last session early Sunday morning before I leave. Will any one be available Sunday morning, if so where.

Seventh question does the bus from the airport and the trolley run on Thanksgiving day.

Thank you very much for all of your help, if you are going to be there on Thanksgiving weekend let me know and I will buy you a beer.

Thanks

Chris

[Phordphan]

I am thinking of taking my first trip to Tijuana over Thanksgiving weekend. I have done a great deal of research here on this board and have found lots of valuable information, thank you to those of you who contributed information. I will be flying in to San Diego on Thanksgiving day and then taking the 992 bus to the trolley and taking the trolley to the boarder and then returning via the same route on Sunday afternoon for a 5: pm flight

My first question is, is Thanksgiving weekend a good time to visit Tijuana or will it be too crowded and prices to high due to the holiday.

My second question is if this is a good weekend to go how much should I budget for. My eyes may be bigger than my libido but I would like to session two to three times a day with girls while I am there.

Third question should I exchange my dollars before I leave and take all of the money I will need for the weekend with me. Should I take all of the money I will need for the weekend with me and exchange it once I get to Tijuana, if so where. Or should I just take enough for the first day and then get the rest from ATMs, is so what ATMs should I use, where are they located.

Fourth question if Thanksgiving weekend is a good time to go I would like to stay in Tijuana for the weekend, In my researche I have narrowed it down to the hotel cascadas the one used for the Hong Kong club, the hotel RIzo De Oro which I believe is above the Tropicana bar, the hotel Leyva which I believe is next to the Chicago club, or the hotel Ticuan which is the most expensive one. Which one would you recommend.

Fifth question where can I get Viagra preferably kemagra (sp?) in the zone and what would the price be.

Sixth question my flight leaves San Diego at 5. M on Sunday, I would like to have one last session early Sunday morning before I leave. Will any one be available Sunday morning, if so where.

Seventh question does the bus from the airport and the trolley run on Thanksgiving day.

Thank you very much for all of your help, if you are going to be there on Thanksgiving weekend let me know and I will buy you a beer.

Thanks

ChrisOK. In no particular order.

The border wait is hellacious on Sunday. Give yourself 2 hours to get across. It may be less, but it shouldn't be more. The trolley takes about 45 minutes to get from San Ysidro to America Plaza (I assume you'll be getting the trolley there). Not sure how long the bus takes, maybe 30 minutes? And 1. 5 hours at the airport. So, you may need to start your trip back around noon-ish on Sunday. This is a worst-case scenario, but better to be a bit early.

Thanksgiving is not a holiday in Mexico, so there will be plenty of opportunity. Of course, there may be a lot of customers, too. Prices will be same as always. This is Mexico. Negotiate a bit. Tijuana is never crowded with gringos anymore. Haven't you heard? Narcotraficantes lurk around every corner, waiting to kill unsuspecting turistas. So, except for a couple of clubs, on weekends, you will find no crowds.

Why anybody wants to sleep overnight in the zona is beyond me. If you must then Cascadas is probably the best of the ones you mentioned. Ticuan is nice and comfortable. Also, Hotel Espana and Caesar, both on Revu, almost opposite one another. Not as nice as Ticuan, but clean and comfortable, and a bit cheaper.

Budget $60 per session. You can get them cheaper. In some cases, much cheaper. Don't know how much you drink, and if you like chatting with the ladies before and after. But it can be easy to blow through the better part of $100 in ficha drinks in a long afternoon / evening / night. And whatever you like to drink. So, $300 - $400 per day might suffice.

An ATM is better, but if your card gets eaten, you're screwed. Because it won't happen in the middle of a weekday, but on Saturday night. Take a bunch of money, and an ATM for a backup.

Lots of ED meds all up and down Revu. Just ask. Many have prices posted. It's not expensive. Avoid the men's room viagra. Maybe it's real, maybe not.

Plenty of street action on Sundays. The clubs will be a bit slow before noon.

Can't help with the bus on Thanksgiving thing.

Good luck

[QuackUp]

Late report but better late than never. Got to the border around 14:00 and parked at the jib because I noticed the parking lot across the street covered up the sign for the special deal on the 10 hrs for $5. 00. I guess it is only good during the weekday.

Since it was early, I decided to walk to the zona. It's funny, at least 3 taxi guys yelled at me $3 dollars to Adellitas. These were the taxi economico.

It's funny because when I left the zona, I came out of A / be and one of the taxi drivers in front asked if I needed a taxi. I said yes, and he points to his car. I asked how much. He just keeps walking and I walk with him to his car. Again I ask him how much, he says come on in. Before getting into the car, I firmly ask him how much. He said $5. 00. I said no way and start to walk off. He then yells at me, okay $3. 00 USD. I got in. Anyways, I know $2. 00 is not a big deal but I hate when I know I'am getting scammed. Hopefully you guys do the samething and make them charged the right or fair amount.

Okay, enough preaching. Walked first to H / k. Not sure what it is but H / k wasn't doing it for me. I actually got bored after a while and left for another club. Maybe it was like when A / be was the shits and so crowded with people you couldn't even walk. But back then, I got tired of A / be and had more fun at L / see and T / be, and the old H / k. Hopefully it just a phase I'am going through.

I walked over to L / see. The live band was playing and it was to loud for me so left there to get something to eat. Went back to Cheripan. Got my fill and went back to the zona.

Went into T / be, I couldn't find the chica who I had a great time with last time. Had a drink, nothing aroused me so left to A / be. I will write about that in the A / be section.

After A / be, went over to C / see where I had a great time. You can read the adventure on that thread.

[Super Gato]

My first question is, is Thanksgiving weekend a good time to visit Tijuana or will it be too crowded and prices to high due to the holiday.It isn't a holiday in Mexico, of course and many mongers will be home with their families that weekend. Then again, some mongers will make a run for Tijuana to escape their families. So I've noticed it to be a typical weekend. Note that everyone in Baja California with a visa to visit the United States will be in San Diego shopping for Black Friday weekend deals. So the line to get back into the US might be longer than a typical Sunday. None of these things are deal killers though.


My second question is if this is a good weekend to go how much should I budget for. My eyes may be bigger than my libido but I would like to session two to three times a day with girls while I am there.There should be a full compliment of girls since it is getting close to Christmas and many girls will go back to their home cities for the holiday and will want to make as much money as they can before they leave. I budget $100 / session which includes the bar girl (HK or AB) , room, my drinks, her drinks (I tend not to go upstairs w / o having a drink or two to ensure I'll have a good time). Some guys only bang $15 street girls. You'll need to budget according to your tastes and how much extracurricular activities you indulge in (extra drinks, food, etc)


Third question should I exchange my dollars before I leave and take all of the money I will need for the weekend with me. Should I take all of the money I will need for the weekend with me and exchange it once I get to Tijuana, if so where. Or should I just take enough for the first day and then get the rest from ATMs, is so what ATMs should I use, where are they located.Dollars are widely accepted in the big bars in Zona Norte and there's not much of an advantage of using pesos at the moment. Most ATMs in Tijuana only dispense pesos (some will ask if you want dollars). For me the big thing about ATMs is although their exchange rate is great, many banks will tack on international currency fees. My bank has an agreement with HSBC in Mexico and I can use the ATM next door to Adelita Bar w / o paying a surcharge (well, HSBC does charge me a few pesos to use their machine, but it is cheaper than using my bank's competitor banks in the US). Check with your bank.


Fourth question if Thanksgiving weekend is a good time to go I would like to stay in Tijuana for the weekend, In my researche I have narrowed it down to the hotel cascadas the one used for the Hong Kong club, the hotel RIzo De Oro which I believe is above the Tropicana bar, the hotel Leyva which I believe is next to the Chicago club, or the hotel Ticuan which is the most expensive one. Which one would you recommend.Cascadas is the nicest hotel in the Zona but it isn't that nice. When I would visit Tijuana on weekend trips I'd stay in Pueblo Amigo (walk to the border for the trip back home) or the Marriott. Today, I'd probably add Ticuan to the list. In my mongering I prefer to sleep in a nice hotel away from the action and didn't mind taking a taxi to / from the zona.


Fifth question where can I get Viagra preferably kemagra (sp?) in the zone and what would the price be.I'm only aware of the generic Viagra branded as Maxifort being sold. You can get them for $2-4 depending on the farmacia and quantity. The pharmacies just off Revo tend to be a little cheaper than the places on Revo.


Sixth question my flight leaves San Diego at 5. M on Sunday, I would like to have one last session early Sunday morning before I leave. Will any one be available Sunday morning, if so where.The Zona does not close. However it does slow down so the quantity and quality of girls are limited. There tend to be only a few alley girls and club girls working that shift so expect the second or third string squad. Having done what you've done in the past, I know how you'll want to get one last one off before heading home, but before moving to SD, I decided I'd rather have my final session the night before when there are the best options. But I'm a stickler for looks and your tastes may differ.


Seventh question does the bus from the airport and the trolley run on Thanksgiving day.Typically the bus / trolley runs on a Sunday schedule on holidays. As the date approaches you can confirm this on the MTS website (

http://www.sdmts.com/

).

If you get to the pedestrian line on the morning you're leaving and it is really long, you'll find guys offering rides in their van / bus for $5. This can get you to the head of the line for 2+ hour wait times. I did this once on Memorial Day weekend when I got to the line and it was nearly all the way to Pueblo Amigo and I had a flight to catch from LAX. Made my flight (barely). Most of the time you spend doing this is waiting for them to sell out the rest of the seats. For me it was about 20 minutes from the time the guy came up to me in line and I was talking to the CBP agent.

[ClamSlammer]

It's funny because when I left the zona, I came out of A / be and one of the taxi drivers in front asked if I needed a taxi. I said yes, and he points to his car. I asked how much. He just keeps walking and I walk with him to his car. Again I ask him how much, he says come on in. Before getting into the car, I firmly ask him how much. He said $5. 00. I said no way and start to walk off. He then yells at me, okay $3. 00 USD. I got in. Anyways, I know $2. 00 is not a big deal but I hate when I know I'am getting scammed. Hopefully you guys do the samething and make them charged the right or fair amount.

Walked first to H / k. Not sure what it is but H / k wasn't doing it for me. I actually got bored after a while and left for another club. Maybe it was like when A / be was the shits and so crowded with people you couldn't even walk. But back then, I got tired of A / be and had more fun at L / see and T / be, and the old H / k. Hopefully it just a phase I'am going through.

I walked over to L / see. Went into T / be. So left to A / be. Will write about that in the A / be section.

After A / be, went over to C / see where I had a great time.Yeah I hate being scammed too. The only thing I do different is if I get quoted $5 to begin with, I just walk away and find another taxi. I don't even give the first guy a chance to come down to $3. I think it might teach them a lesson on trying to rip off Americans. If more people did the same, I think we'd see a lot less $5 quotes.

And Quackup, with all due respect, what the heck do you mean by "H / k" "A / be" "L / see" "T / be"? I imagine "H / k" means Hong Kong but the others I can't figure out. Adelita? Tropical?

[ClamSlammer]

I am thinking of taking my first trip to Tijuana over Thanksgiving weekend. I have done a great deal of research here on this board and have found lots of valuable information, thank you to those of you who contributed information. I will be flying in to San Diego on Thanksgiving day and then taking the 992 bus to the trolley and taking the trolley to the boarder and then returning via the same route on Sunday afternoon for a 5: pm flight

My first question is, is Thanksgiving weekend a good time to visit Tijuana or will it be too crowded and prices to high due to the holiday.

My second question is if this is a good weekend to go how much should I budget for. My eyes may be bigger than my libido but I would like to session two to three times a day with girls while I am there.

Third question should I exchange my dollars before I leave and take all of the money I will need for the weekend with me. Should I take all of the money I will need for the weekend with me and exchange it once I get to Tijuana, if so where. Or should I just take enough for the first day and then get the rest from ATMs, is so what ATMs should I use, where are they located.

Fourth question if Thanksgiving weekend is a good time to go I would like to stay in Tijuana for the weekend, In my researche I have narrowed it down to the hotel cascadas the one used for the Hong Kong club, the hotel RIzo De Oro which I believe is above the Tropicana bar, the hotel Leyva which I believe is next to the Chicago club, or the hotel Ticuan which is the most expensive one. Which one would you recommend.

Fifth question where can I get Viagra preferably kemagra (sp?) in the zone and what would the price be.

Sixth question my flight leaves San Diego at 5. M on Sunday, I would like to have one last session early Sunday morning before I leave. Will any one be available Sunday morning, if so where.

Seventh question does the bus from the airport and the trolley run on Thanksgiving day.

Thank you very much for all of your help, if you are going to be there on Thanksgiving weekend let me know and I will buy you a beer.

Thanks

ChrisOkay, here are my thoughts:

Thanksgiving isn't a holiday in Mexico so it shouldn't be too crowded. It is a border city so they'll probably have some minor Thanksgiving promotions and stuff going on. But overall it shouldn't be much different from a normal weekend.

I'm almost certain public transportation operates on Thanksgiving. I would definitely take the Blue Line trolley to / from the border. $5 vs. $100 cab round trip. That $95 could buy some fun in Tijuana. Would you rather have $95 in your pocket or the taxi driver's? The answer is obvious for me. Make sure you buy a ticket-I've seen security officers on board checking for tickets. Also, the 992 bus sometimes takes forever to arrive, especially with the reduced schedule on holidays. The wait can be up to 45 minutes. Here's a tip. There is a major rental car company, whose name will remind you of the city of San Antonio. Hop on one of their shuttles and it will take you within steps of the Middletown trolley station. Whatever you do please do not pay more than $3 + $1 tip for a taxi to / from border / Zona / hotel / Plaza Rio. Do not get in a cab (sit in front seat) until you've been quoted $3. If you're quoted $5 walk away and find another one of the 5000 cabs in the area that will take you for $3.

As far as budget, everyone is different. I'd say a minimum of $150 / night for food / drink/"entertainment"/temporary housing. I usually go out with $200. $250 and come back with $50. $100 although I almost never session with chicas at all.

I would recommend just bringing all you anticipate spending in dollars with you at the begining, and an ATM card as backup. I would avoid ATM's if possible (fraud / currency conversion fees, etc.) For a newbie, don't worry about exchanging for Pesos. It's a pain in the ass too but I suppose it can save you a couple of bucks. But not worth it to me. Especially if you have Pesos left over at the end of your trip. You can't use them in USA so you just end up giving them away to homeless / maid / girls anyway so there goes your savings.

As far as hotels I would recommend Ticuan hands down. It's equivalent to a 3. 5 star hotel in America, like Hilt*and or Doubletr. Has in-room safe, flat screens, restaurant / bar, quiet AC and decently reliable American cell phone signals on higher floors on NW side of building. Plus you can walk to Caliente, Sanbourns, Amnesia and Las Pulgas. No pool / fitness center though. Some people walk to the Zona from Ticuan but that's way too far for me. I walked down just to the arch once and it took like 30 minutes. You don't want to stay in the Zona. Although fun, it is filthy and full of con-men and drug addicts.

Don't worry about sourcing Viagra and the like. Pharmacies are everywhere-expect $8-$12 per. Your flight leaves at 5 AM or PM on Sunday? I'm assuming AM. Expect 1:15 trolly / bus ride to airport, :30 wait in line, :15 ride from hotel to border. These estimates are generous-it shouldn't really take you that long. So assuming you have to be at the airport a 4 AM, you should depart the Zona around 2 AM. There will be a large amount of girls available at 1 AM.

I'm actually going to be there for Thanksgiving weekend too. Can't wait to check it out myself.

[MadisonGuy]

Late report but better late than never. Got to the border around 14:00 and parked at the jib because I noticed the parking lot across the street covered up the sign for the special deal on the 10 hrs for $5. 00. I guess it is only good during the weekday.

Since it was early, I decided to walk to the zona. It's funny, at least 3 taxi guys yelled at me $3 dollars to Adellitas. These were the taxi economico.

It's funny because when I left the zona, I came out of A / be and one of the taxi drivers in front asked if I needed a taxi. I said yes, and he points to his car. I asked how much. He just keeps walking and I walk with him to his car. Again I ask him how much, he says come on in. Before getting into the car, I firmly ask him how much. He said $5. 00. I said no way and start to walk off. He then yells at me, okay $3. 00 USD. I got in. Anyways, I know $2. 00 is not a big deal but I hate when I know I'am getting scammed. Hopefully you guys do the samething and make them charged the right or fair amoun.

After A / be, went over to C / see where I had a great time. You can read the adventure on that thread.Quackup it may help save you time if you tell them what you're going to pay, that is if you know the rates. Otherwise they think you don't know. I've never had a taxi driver tell me no that's too low it's more. I have gotten some cheaper rides by saying if you want I would pay this but I prefer to walk but in the end it's a few pennies really.

On a side note are any of the guys that go often using pesos more now. I heard today the exchange is 15-1, that's a huge change in a short time.

[QuackUp]

I think it might be because I have been going down there for so long, I kinda play their game. I don't like it but, I guess it becomes part of nature there.

I try to use peso's whenever I'am in Mexico. Doesn't matter what city.

Q

[TomJackin]

I heard today the exchange is 15-1, that's a huge change in a short time.Yesterday the exchange rate was 12. 54.

[MadisonGuy]

Yesterday the exchange rate was 12. 54.Sorry I should know better than listen to my wife. Mexican math isn't quite the same as US math.

[Sock111]

The US dollar is getting stronger, might be time to switch to pesos since I could end up spending $200. $300 a night. I would save on all those drinks.

[TomJackin]

The US dollar is getting stronger, might be time to switch to pesos since I could end up spending $200. $300 a night. I would save on all those drinks.I used pesos for drinks for quite awhile, but stopped because I never seemed to get the proper change back from the maseros, even the ones that I knew didn't seem to be able to convert the exchange rate worth a damn. So now I use dollars for drinks, but tip in pesos. And I always use pesos for the bar and street girls.

[Joe Arturo]

Hong Kong uses 11 to 1 for their exchange rate, Chicago Club uses 12 to 1 for theirs. I don't know what it is at Adelita but I am sure it is somewhere in that range. If you can buy pesos at 12.5 at a casa de cambio and ask for change in pesos from the meseros (not maseros) you are ahead of the game. My bank does not charge a foreign transaction fee for ATM card useage (some banks do which can be as much as 3%). Right now from the ATM, I am getting pesos at 13.5 to one. This means that when I buy an 88 peso ficha drink ($8 at 11 to 1) in Hong Kong it is costing me around $6.50. Or if I buy an 84 peso ficha drink at Chicago ($7 at 12 to 1) it is costing me about $6.22. But be careful, if your bank charges a foreign transaction fee, this could take away all of the advantage. I searched for a bank that does not charge a foreign transaction fee just for this reason.

Even if the girls insist on 12 to 1 exchange rate on their in room services (most do but some still go at 10 to 1 which is great) 720 pesos for the $60 service fee is only $53 at 13.5 to 1. And at the end of the weekend, if I have any pesos left over, I cash them in at a casa de cambio for between 12.5 and 13 to 1, which means I get back more dollars than I paid for those pesos through the ATM machine.

As an example, last Thursday I purchased new tires and a front end alignment in Tijuana. At the exchange rate at the llantera it would have been $832. I used my ATM card as a credit card and it cost me $683.

Now is the time to use pesos!

[Watnow78]

Hey Fellas,

Ill be heading back to Tijuana this weekend for a 2 night stay at the Ticuan hotel. Being on a budget, I'm going to try to make this trip as cheap as possible. The hotel is where I'm going to spend a good portion of my money because I need to have a decent room, very clean, with great AC, and little away from the action. Cheap drinks and street food will be my diet for 48 hours. The rest will be spent on hopefully 6 Chicas from Friday evening 5pm to Sunday 4pm. Ill just have to find somethings to do on the down time. ANY IDEAS?

Also, when I was in Tijuana a short time ago I ate at the Caesars restaurant on Revolution and remembered seeing a sign "Rooms Available". I've tried to locate a phone number or email but I found nothing. Has anyone stayed here? And if so, what are the weekend rates?

I'm also going to try looking for a decent strip club to hang back for a bit. On my last trip I walked into a strip club with my buddy and seconds after sitting down the bar lady brought over 2 dancers and demanded us to buy them drinks. We hadn't even ordered our own yet! WTF! So I ordered beers for me and my bud, we got 2 beers each for $10. 00. Not a bad deal. And again the bar lady said," ok now you ordered, you need to buy girls a drink". I was getting aggravated and told the waitress to give us a few minutes. So she did, but stood in front of our booth the whole Effin' time. Now I was annoyed and nodded to my friend to head out. He agreed and pounded our first beer and walked out, but not before handing over the other 2 beers to some dude sitting alone.

So if there is a strip club where I can just chill for a few hours and watch some sports and drink a few I'd love to hear about it.

Hopefully ill try to get some pictures to share this time. I wish I had my camera last trip because the girls I banged where really HOTT!

Later

[Chris Long]

Thank you for your help, if you are going to be there over Thanksgiving lets hook up it would be more fun to have someone to hang out with and chase the women with.

Thanks again.

Chris.


Okay, here are my thoughts:

Thanksgiving isn't a holiday in Mexico so it shouldn't be too crowded. It is a border city so they'll probably have some minor Thanksgiving promotions and stuff going on. But overall it shouldn't be much different from a normal weekend.

I'm almost certain public transportation operates on Thanksgiving. I would definitely take the Blue Line trolley to / from the border. $5 vs. $100 cab round trip. That $95 could buy some fun in Tijuana. Would you rather have $95 in your pocket or the taxi driver's? The answer is obvious for me. Make sure you buy a ticket-I've seen security officers on board checking for tickets. Also, the 992 bus sometimes takes forever to arrive, especially with the reduced schedule on holidays. The wait can be up to 45 minutes. Here's a tip. There is a major rental car company, whose name will remind you of the city of San Antonio. Hop on one of their shuttles and it will take you within steps of the Middletown trolley station. Whatever you do please do not pay more than $3 + $1 tip for a taxi to / from border / Zona / hotel / Plaza Rio. Do not get in a cab (sit in front seat) until you've been quoted $3. If you're quoted $5 walk away and find another one of the 5000 cabs in the area that will take you for $3.

As far as budget, everyone is different. I'd say a minimum of $150 / night for food / drink/"entertainment"/temporary housing. I usually go out with $200. $250 and come back with $50. $100 although I almost never session with chicas at all.

I would recommend just bringing all you anticipate spending in dollars with you at the begining, and an ATM card as backup. I would avoid ATM's if possible (fraud / currency conversion fees, etc.) For a newbie, don't worry about exchanging for Pesos. It's a pain in the ass too but I suppose it can save you a couple of bucks. But not worth it to me. Especially if you have Pesos left over at the end of your trip. You can't use them in USA so you just end up giving them away to homeless / maid / girls anyway so there goes your savings.

As far as hotels I would recommend Ticuan hands down. It's equivalent to a 3. 5 star hotel in America, like Hilt*and or Doubletr. Has in-room safe, flat screens, restaurant / bar, quiet AC and decently reliable American cell phone signals on higher floors on NW side of building. Plus you can walk to Caliente, Sanbourns, Amnesia and Las Pulgas. No pool / fitness center though. Some people walk to the Zona from Ticuan but that's way too far for me. I walked down just to the arch once and it took like 30 minutes. You don't want to stay in the Zona. Although fun, it is filthy and full of con-men and drug addicts.

Don't worry about sourcing Viagra and the like. Pharmacies are everywhere-expect $8-$12 per. Your flight leaves at 5 AM or PM on Sunday? I'm assuming AM. Expect 1:15 trolly / bus ride to airport, :30 wait in line, :15 ride from hotel to border. These estimates are generous-it shouldn't really take you that long. So assuming you have to be at the airport a 4 AM, you should depart the Zona around 2 AM. There will be a large amount of girls available at 1 AM.

I'm actually going to be there for Thanksgiving weekend too. Can't wait to check it out myself.

[ClamSlammer]

Thank you for your help, if you are going to be there over Thanksgiving lets hook up it would be more fun to have someone to hang out with and chase the women with.

Thanks again.

Chris.Sure, I'll be around. Stay at Ticuan if you can. Just shoot me a PM. To tell you the truth, I've never been to the Zona by myself and don't know if I would. There's so many people and police around that it's not overtly dangerous but still, it's a magnet for the derelicts of Mexican society and the chances of you getting assaulted / robbed / threatened / intimidated are much, much higher when you're alone vs. When you're in a group.

[Baxter Slade]

I had texted my GF / BG last week to try to arrange for my Humanitarian relief effort. In a previous report I had mentioned I was feeling kind of bad about how on my last trip she had taken me all over the place, spent three wonderful nights together and had shown me remarkable hospitality without ever holding her hand out wanting anything in return. So when I found out she didn't work on Monday we arranged to meet at Costco by the border. I had a feeling there would be some kind of problem, since she had no idea what or where Costco was. And she is always getting lost and these chicas are never on time. The plan was to meet at noon, I rolled up to the Costco at around 12:15 and there she was waiting, amazing.

After spending alot of time with her on previous trips I had noticed her #1 concern in life is providing food for her family, so I figured a great way to say thank you would be to let her go on a shopping spree. At first she acted a bit shy about what to get, but it didn't take long for her to fill the cart. And she did stick to all food items, she didn't even try to go after a big screen tv. It was a very pleasurable experience just watching, first she couldn't get over the size of the store, and all the free samples available. And you could just see her light up as she was filling the cart. When you have a wife who's biggest dilema in life is should I get my nails done at salon A or salon B, it was so refreshing to watch her shop and be so exited about all the food she would be bringing home to her family. After about an hour of shopping the grand total was $221.

I helped her load everything in her car and went to hug her good bye. At that point I wasn't sure what I was going to do. I had planned on just heading home after shopping, but then how could I be this close to the Zona and not see what it is like on a Monday afternoon. But she would have no part of any of that. She insisted I come with her I agreed and it was off to her errands. As sick as it may sound I think I like just rolling around Tijuana and taking in the sites as much as sex. She always wants me to drive, and as bad as she drives it might be a good idea. But I'am just not sure about my liability if something were to happen so I always decline.

So once again she was lost trying to find some Frontera College place. We passed through some pretty crazy traffic circles, it reminded me of a figure 8 racetrack with numerous cars trying to get in and out of the circle, we came within inches of many accidents. Finally we parked in the general vicinity of where she wanted to go, she paid some security guy who happened to be across the street to keep an eye on her car, I guess she was worried about all those groceries. As we set out on foot to find this place we passed this building that seemed to be guarded by these policia they were dressed all in black wearing armor with masks covering there faces and carrying large automatic weapons, not sure what that was all about. We finally found the place and she did what she had to do. She does have a good personality and struck up a friendship with someone else who was waiting in line at the college, so next thing I know the lady and her little boy are in the car and she is taking them somewhere. I kept telling her she needs to get her groceries to the freezer but I don't think she understood.

She finally got everything put away and I told her I needed to get to Caliente so I could put a bet in for Monday night football. So we headed to the Zona. On the way we called our translator friend, he said he was off work and we made plans to meet him at the bar he is now employeed at to watch the game. On a side note he did recently lose his job at a different club, rumor has it he was part of that conspiracy to charge more for ficha's and pocket the difference. I let her pick the team we would bet on, and she picked the Redskins. The translator dude wanted the Cowboys so it made for an interesting game. The only problem was I had this bright idea that everytime your team scored you had to drink tequila. This is the first time this guy has taken advantage of me everytime I turned around he was ordering Tequila and I was getting the bill. But everyone was getting good and drunk and having alot of fun. That is until he threw up all over the place, and then got into an argument about not wanting to tip the guy who cleaned it up. I hope this incident doesn't cost him his job.

I had never been to the Zona on a Monday Thursday was always my night of choice. But I have to say it really does not seem to matter what night you choose. The streets had many beautiful ladies working and the bars although not as busy had many ladies to choose from.

Anyway after heading to another place to sober up for a bit it was time to go since I have lost my overnight Privileges. No wait at the border and I was on my way home. So this ended up being the most I have spent in Tijuana probably around $350 and no sex, but I will always have memories of this trip.

On the way home the chica texted a bunch of Te Amo's and called twice and this morning there was a text from her. To quote that brillant philosopher SuperSteve " The one that cares the most loses" hopefully this thing gets turned around because after those 3 days I spent with her I was starting to care a little to much.

[Chris Long]

Hay thanks I tried PM you but it said you were not receiving or could not recieve PM messages. Is there some other way to contact you.

Chris.


Sure, I'll be around. Stay at Ticuan if you can. Just shoot me a PM. To tell you the truth, I've never been to the Zona by myself and don't know if I would. There's so many people and police around that it's not overtly dangerous but still, it's a magnet for the derelicts of Mexican society and the chances of you getting assaulted / robbed / threatened / intimidated are much, much higher when you're alone vs. When you're in a group.

[Sound7]

ATM Card with no foreign exchange fee? Banamex, HBSC, Citi. Which bank's ATM has this great program?

Early September the rate at the combo was 11. 20 to 11:50 buy andsell 1, 5 pesos more and changing in the evening by. 5 to 1 pesos.

Thanks for the research.


Hong Kong uses 11 to 1 for their exchange rate, Chicago Club uses 12 to 1 for theirs. I don't know what it is at Adelita but I am sure it is somewhere in that range. If you can buy pesos at 12. 5 at a casa de cambio and ask for change in pesos from the meseros (not maseros) you are ahead of the game. My bank does not charge a foreign transaction fee for ATM card useage (some banks do which can be as much as 3%). Right now from the ATM, I am getting pesos at 13. 5 to one. This means that when I buy an 88 peso ficha drink ($8 at 11 to 1) in Hong Kong it is costing me around $6. 50. Or if I buy an 84 peso ficha drink at Chicago ($7 at 12 to 1) it is costing me about $6. 22. But be careful, if your bank charges a foreign transaction fee, this could take away all of the advantage. I searched for a bank that does not charge a foreign transaction fee just for this reason.

Even if the girls insist on 12 to 1 exchange rate on their in room services (most do but some still go at 10 to 1 which is great) 720 pesos for the $60 service fee is only $53 at 13. 5 to 1. And at the end of the weekend, if I have any pesos left over, I cash them in at a casa de cambio for between 12. 5 and 13 to 1, which means I get back more dollars than I paid for those pesos through the ATM machine.

As an example, last Thursday I purchased new tires and a front end alignment in Tijuana. At the exchange rate at the llantera it would have been $832. I used my ATM card as a credit card and it cost me $683.

Now is the time to use pesos!

[Phordphan]

Hay thanks I tried PM you but it said you were not receiving or could not recieve PM messages. Is there some other way to contact you.

Chris.You are both regular members. PM will not work unless you subscribe or otherwise become Senior Members.

[MadisonGuy]

I helped her load everything in her car and went to hug her good bye. At that point I wasn't sure what I was going to do. I had planned on just heading home after shopping, but then how could I be this close to the Zona and not see what it is like on a Monday afternoon. But she would have no part of any of that. She insisted I come with her I agreed and it was off to her errands. As sick as it may sound I think I like just rolling around Tijuana and taking in the sites as much as sex. She always wants me to drive, and as bad as she drives it might be a good idea. But I'am just not sure about my liability if something were to happen so I always decline.That's not sick man, that's a great report. As long as the day with her was worth the money that's all that matters. There's girls I would spend a couple grand on and girls that I would give money to leave me alone. Have you went into any of the ghetto areas of Tijuana? I saw one on the way to the beach, all tin roof type looks like wind could blow them over dwellings. I'd like to check that out next time it looked a little surreal.

[Dad Fun 555]

ATM Card with no foreign exchange fee? Banamex, HBSC, Citi. Which bank's ATM has this great program?I believe most online banks have this, as well as Credit Unions, and small banks. The reason these banks do this is that they don't have their own ATM's so it is cheaper to give free ATM access than to build their own ATM network.

To name one: E-Trade Bank.

[Joe Arturo]

I believe most online banks have this, as well as Credit Unions, and small banks. The reason these banks do this is that they don't have their own ATM's so it is cheaper to give free ATM access than to build their own ATM network.

To name one: E-Trade Bank.There are very few banks that do no charge an extra fee for using their debit card in a foreign country. I spent a lot of time to find one. Most charge 3 to 5 percent. Some charge a flat $3 to $5. I am using Pacific Western Bank. They have several branches throughout Southern California.

[Country John]

There are very few banks that do no charge an extra fee for using their debit card in a foreign country. I spent a lot of time to find one. Most charge 3 to 5 percent. Some charge a flat $3 to $5. I am using Pacific Western Bank. They have several branches throughout Southern California.HSBC does not charge American account holders to use their ATM cards in Mexico. You can open an HSBC account online.

[John Magellan]

The best deal I have found is use your Bank of America card at any Santander ATM and there are ZERO fees and a GREAT exchange rate. I have been doing it for 2 years now and it is true. It might say there is going to be a fee but there isn't. Has to do with an agreement BofA made when they sold Santander.

[Misteroc]

Had an interesting trip to Tijuana. Mid-week, early morning. Arrived about 8 or 9. Usual activities, beer trucks, sidewalk washing, workers eating breakfast. Wandered around a bit to check it out.

Stopped in the alley across from HK. Watching a sexy little lady with see-through black net pants and a turquoise thong. A lot of, umm, derelict types were hanging around just down the sidewalk, across from Chavellas. At some point, some guy showed up from a doorway and about 15 people, locals and derelicts rushed him like piraña feeding. He was giving out something, couldn't tell what. In seconds it was all over and those that scored walked off putting their new item away, the others wandered back to the other side of the street. It was literally over in seconds! WTH.

Anyhow, I walked to the corner of the alley and Los Ninos.

A couple of white and blue police cars came up the other side of los Ninos. The driver of one got out. I couldn't see clearly because of phone poles so I started walking up Los Ninos. A big one called out to me and stopped me. A second and then two more showed up too. They put me against the wall and searched me, asking for ID. They missed the big pack of smokes in my shirt pocket though. Anyhow, looked at my passport, saw my money and handed it to me while still searching. Then they found half of my vitamin V I was saving for later. Yes, I have a prescription but in the US and no paper copy.

They put me in the backseat, told me it was illegal in Mexico. They drove me off. My Spanish isn't good, neither was their English. They said Ticket a lot and Judge. Then said what I though was jail for 36 hours!

I asked if I could pay them the ticket. I showed the passenger cop $60. He took took it thru the metal screen. I was half afraid I got in deeper by offering a bribe. The guy gave me back my V. I promptly threw it out the back window. They drove me somewhere isolated down by where the foot bridge comes over and let me out. Then they drove off real fast. Sucks. I just wanted to GTFO at that point. But nooooooo, I had a mission. One involving firm sexy women.

I walked back up past the arch and along behind McDonalds. Then dropped back down to the alley. I ducked into a store each of the two time I saw another cop car or truck.

I picked up a pretty young girl named Noemi outside Hotel Mini. 22 years old. Bright smile but serious crooked teeth. Still very sweet, pretty, and most important sexy.

Went up with her. Good time. Friendly. Sexy. Decent lay.

I was paranoid leaving so I waited by the mop girl for a few. Walked out the hallway but saw a police car go by. I jumped back down the hallway and waited about 10 min, watching traffic in a window reflection. Finally I snuck out onto the alley. Noemi was laughing cutely at my paranoia.

Jumped immediately into HK. Sat for awhile, enjoyed a beer, brushed off the meseros and the chunkier girls. Some dozen or so girls working. I like them petite and firm, with a nice small bubble ass, narrow hips and waists.

I was sorta watching an Asians looking girl w black hair but she wasn't even smiling. Just sitting in the booth next to me talking to her girlfriend. All of a sudden a cute young bikini wearing babe sat next to me. She coulda been Asian, at first, but then realized she was all mexicana with almond shaped eyes.

Her English wasn't too bad so we chatted a bit. She was flirty and funny. 22 years old from Mexico city (aren't they all haha). Mara. I liked her. We went upstairs. Paid for the room. When i got there and undressed, i realizes I was about $7 short. I apologized and started redressing. She was conflicted but said i already paid for the room so the money was ok. I feel bad. I will give her more to make up for it next time i see her.

She did an okay CBJ. I really liked fucking her on top because of her size. 145cm. 45kg. That's about 4-9, 100 lbs. True spinner! We switched to mish then doggie, but I was drained. I ripped off the rubber and straddled her belly so I could cum on her stomach and tits. She didn't want that but into paper was ok. Stroking didn't do it. Sucks to be hard on V but drained of cum. She took a shower while I stroked off watching her- very creepy like haha.

Added some shampoo as lube and rubbed her ass while she showered. She kept licking her lips and pushing together her all natural be cups. Finally got there and spewed. She found that funny! Backdown to HK for her and to the border for me. No line. In fact, regular line was fasterthansentri, there was some hold up.

They dragged some pissed off guy away in handcuffs near the x-ray machine too. I was glad to be done with Tijuana, for today anyway.

[Artisttyp]

Sorry to hear about your mishap. I anticipate the same thing when I am down there. My situation is different. I use a medication that needs to be kept on ice. Therefore I cannot take the script bottle with me. I do however carry a copy of the prescription and my doctor's business card along with my ID. Does anyone know if this would be an issue? The meds are usually sitting on ice at the hotel.

Glad to hear you didn't let it ruin your experience. Tijuana cops hurt the entire economy when they pull these stunts. It's a shame.

[Phordphan]

Sorry to hear about your mishap. I anticipate the same thing when I am down there. My situation is different. I use a medication that needs to be kept on ice. Therefore I cannot take the script bottle with me. I do however carry a copy of the prescription and my doctor's business card along with my I'd. Does anyone know if this would be an issue? The meds are usually sitting on ice at the hotel.

Glad to hear you didn't let it ruin your experience. Tijuana cops hurt the entire economy when they pull these stunts. It's a shame.You'll be fine.

Apparently there are still some corrupt cops in Tijuana. These assholes just decided to fuck with some gringo for sport. When they found the V they figured they'd hit pay dirt. Contraband Vitamin V seems to be one of their favorite scams. I don't think it's really illegal to posess viagra (but I'm not a Mexican lawyer). But they take full advantage of the gringo's uncertainty, and the fact that nobody wants to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) away several hours of his day in the back of a car or in the Judge's office.

Here's a link. It may be a bit outdated, but it has some good information.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2690860/Tijuana-Know-Your-Rights-Tourist-Guide

[Artisttyp]

You'll be fine.

Apparently there are still some corrupt cops in Tijuana. These assholes just decided to fuck with some gringo for sport. When they found the V they figured they'd hit pay dirt. Contraband Vitamin V seems to be one of their favorite scams. I don't think it's really illegal to posess viagra (but I'm not a Mexican lawyer). But they take full advantage of the gringo's uncertainty, and the fact that nobody wants to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) away several hours of his day in the back of a car or in the Judge's office.

Here's a link. It may be a bit outdated, but it has some good information.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2690860/Tijuana-Know-Your-Rights-Tourist-GuideThe link is a great source of information. I will read it later.

Thanks.

[Margaya]

Very sorry to hear about your trouble with corrupt cops.

I wonder if it is quite common for cops to accost well dressed people on roads? If so what is one supposed to do. Take a cab to clubs and get the hell out of mexico?


Had an interesting trip to Tijuana. Mid-week, early morning. Arrived about 8 or 9. Usual activities, beer trucks, sidewalk washing, workers eating breakfast. Wandered around a bit to check it out.

Stopped in the alley across from HK. Watching a sexy little lady with see-through black net pants and a turquoise thong. A lot of, umm, derelict types were hanging around just down the sidewalk, across from Chavellas. At some point, some guy showed up from a doorway and about 15 people, locals and derelicts rushed him like piraña feeding. He was giving out something, couldn't tell what. In seconds it was all over and those that scored walked off putting their new item away, the others wandered back to the other side of the street. It was literally over in seconds! WTH.

Anyhow, I walked to the corner of the alley and Los Ninos.

A couple of white and blue police cars came up the other side of los Ninos. The driver of one got out. I couldn't see clearly because of phone poles so I started walking up Los Ninos. A big one called out to me and stopped me. A second and then two more showed up too. They put me against the wall and searched me, asking for I'd. They missed the big pack of smokes in my shirt pocket though. Anyhow, looked at my passport, saw my money and handed it to me while still searching. Then they found half of my vitamin V I was saving for later. Yes, I have a prescription but in the US and no paper copy.

They put me in the backseat, told me it was illegal in Mexico. They drove me off. My Spanish isn't good, neither was their English. They said Ticket a lot and Judge. Then said what I though was jail for 36 hours!

I asked if I could pay them the ticket. I showed the passenger cop $60. He took took it thru the metal screen. I was half afraid I got in deeper by offering a bribe. The guy gave me back my V. I promptly threw it out the back window. They drove me somewhere isolated down by where the foot bridge comes over and let me out. Then they drove off real fast. Sucks. I just wanted to GTFO at that point. But nooooooo, I had a mission. One involving firm sexy women.

I walked back up past the arch and along behind McDonalds. Then dropped back down to the alley. I ducked into a store each of the two time I saw another cop car or truck.

I picked up a pretty young girl named Noemi outside Hotel Mini. 22 years old. Bright smile but serious crooked teeth. Still very sweet, pretty, and most important sexy.

Went up with her. Good time. Friendly. Sexy. Decent lay.

I was paranoid leaving so I waited by the mop girl for a few. Walked out the hallway but saw a police car go by. I jumped back down the hallway and waited about 10 min, watching traffic in a window reflection. Finally I snuck out onto the alley. Noemi was laughing cutely at my paranoia.

Jumped immediately into HK. Sat for awhile, enjoyed a beer, brushed off the meseros and the chunkier girls. Some dozen or so girls working. I like them petite and firm, with a nice small bubble ass, narrow hips and waists.

I was sorta watching an Asians looking girl w black hair but she wasn't even smiling. Just sitting in the booth next to me talking to her girlfriend. All of a sudden a cute young bikini wearing babe sat next to me. She coulda been Asian, at first, but then realized she was all mexicana with almond shaped eyes.

Her English wasn't too bad so we chatted a bit. She was flirty and funny. 22 years old from Mexico city (aren't they all haha). Mara. I liked her. We went upstairs. Paid for the room. When I got there and undressed, I realizes I was about $7 short. I apologized and started redressing. She was conflicted but said I already paid for the room so the money was ok. I feel bad. I will give her more to make up for it next time I see her.

She did an okay CBJ. I really liked fucking her on top because of her size. 145cm. 45kg. That's about 4-9, 100 lbs. True spinner! We switched to mish then doggie, but I was drained. I ripped off the rubber and straddled her belly so I could cum on her stomach and tits. She didn't want that but into paper was ok. Stroking didn't do it. Sucks to be hard on V but drained of cum. She took a shower while I stroked off watching her- very creepy like haha.

Added some shampoo as lube and rubbed her ass while she showered. She kept licking her lips and pushing together her all natural be cups. Finally got there and spewed. She found that funny! Backdown to HK for her and to the border for me. No line. In fact, regular line was fasterthansentri, there was some hold up.

They dragged some pissed off guy away in handcuffs near the x-ray machine too. I was glad to be done with Tijuana, for today anyway.

[Keg]

I'm heading in on Friday night, anybody want to meet up for a cerveza?

Keg

[TomJackin]

rolled into the very popular town of san ysidro to exchange some cash at my favorite spot. the rate was 12. 89 per dollar, so i stocked up. as another member pointed out, now is the time to use pesos for everything, drinks, girls, taxis, etc.

was in my favorite spot in hk by 3 and i noticed that many of the girls that i knew were missing, maybe there was a hk girl meeting of some sorts going on, who knows? anyhow, i was taken by a sweetie dancing on the back stage, her name was jesse. i've seen jesse off and on, but she has always been the best friend of my other favorite, levite.

i called over my trusted mesero, freddie, and tasked him with 3 different tasks. get my 2 for 1 drink coupon approved, find speedy, and fetch jesse when she was finished dancing. freddie accomplished all the tasks within 3-4 minutes, and received a well deserved propina!

jesse turned out to be quite a hoot. big natural breast, which she proudly showed off, great sense of humor, and sweet as fuck. i explained to her that she was hot as hell and i wanted to take her up to the hotel, but i had another commitment at tropical in less than an hour. i did ensure her that next friday, we would get a room and i meant it. one thing that i have learned from doing this hobby for 35+ years is if you tell a girl you will come back, take her out later, pay her bar fine tomorrow, etc, follow through with your word. it makes a big difference with the girl and helps your creditable in any country. just my 2 cents.

went out the back door into the alley and the girls were abundant. i want to pull the trigger on the really dark skin girl, but do not get a good vibe from her, any intell on her? she is fucking hot! sat down at one of the taco stands with my favorite street girl and big john came wondering over. said he was looking for me and one of the hk girls, but only found me. either way we walked over to tropical and hung out a bit.

one of my favorites in the zona walked in and it was off to a booth to the very back of the new section, quiet and empty to boot. after some drinks, we ended up in one of the big vip booths, oh my! we had it for an hour, but an hour and a half went past, and no one ever called us out. there is sometime about being buck naked and fucking with customers sitting a foot from your window.

normally, i would stop in ny club, but i gave up on the place. the hottest girl there is from seattle, speaks english well, and will not go to a hotel; so fuck the place! plus, the girl that i liked, crossed over the border to texas from what i last heard. so i headed back to hk. it was past 8 and the evening crew was in, so was the sausage fest, but i hung out for a couple of drinks anyway.

earlier in the day, freddie recommend a tall blond and i did not bring her over because i was with jesse. so went i went back, i hunted her down like rambo, but without all the muscles. i had a drink with her and she was added to my hk bucket list. she wanted to go to one of the hk vip rooms, but i was vip room spent out at that point.

i was back across the border by 10. i honestly feel that it is a blessing and a curse to be 20 minutes away from the zona norte; and thoughts on this?

[ClamSlammer]

I'm heading in on Friday night, anybody want to meet up for a cerveza?

KegYeah I'm down here at Ticuan. Wouldn't mind a beer. Don't have PM here. Is it against policy to exchange emails with other members?

[Keg]

I was back across the border by 10. I honestly feel that it is a blessing and a curse to be 20 minutes away from the Zona Norte; and thoughts on this?No truer statement, amen to that!

I got to HK about the time you probably left. I hooked up with Miranda again, she's getting to be a favorite. Cool chick, permed hair, fair-skkinned, nice thin waist and soft ass, and kind of reminds me a bit of an ex-gf from a dozen years or so ago. She and her sister have been back at HK for about a month after they left for AB for a short period. Always a fun time with her.

[Big John 1]

rolled into the very popular town of san ysidro to exchange some cash at my favorite spot. the rate was 12. 89 per dollar, so i stocked up. as another member pointed out, now is the time to use pesos for everything, drinks, girls, taxis, etc.

was in my favorite spot in hk by 3 and i noticed that many of the girls that i knew were missing, maybe there was a hk girl meeting of some sorts going on, who knows? anyhow, i was taken by a sweetie dancing on the back stage, her name was jesse. i've seen jesse off and on, but she has always been the best friend of my other favorite, levite.

i called over my trusted mesero, freddie, and tasked him with 3 different tasks. get my 2 for 1 drink coupon approved, find speedy, and fetch jesse when she was finished dancing. freddie accomplished all the tasks within 3-4 minutes, and received a well deserved propina!

jesse turned out to be quite a hoot. big natural breast, which she proudly showed off, great sense of humor, and sweet as fuck. i explained to her that she was hot as hell and i wanted to take her up to the hotel, but i had another commitment at tropical in less than an hour. i did ensure her that next friday, we would get a room and i meant it. one thing that i have learned from doing this hobby for 35+ years is if you tell a girl you will come back, take her out later, pay her bar fine tomorrow, etc, follow through with your word. it makes a big difference with the girl and helps your creditable in any country. just my 2 cents.

went out the back door into the alley and the girls were abundant. i want to pull the trigger on the really dark skin girl, but do not get a good vibe from her, any intell on her? she is fucking hot! sat down at one of the taco stands with my favorite street girl and big john came wondering over. said he was looking for me and one of the hk girls, but only found me. either way we walked over to tropical and hung out a bit.

one of my favorites in the zona walked in and it was off to a booth to the very back of the new section, quiet and empty to boot. after some drinks, we ended up in one of the big vip booths, oh my! we had it for an hour, but an hour and a half went past, and no one ever called us out. there is sometime about being buck naked and fucking with customers sitting a foot from your window.

normally, i would stop in ny club, but i gave up on the place. the hottest girl there is from seattle, speaks english well, and will not go to a hotel; so fuck the place! plus, the girl that i liked, crossed over the border to texas from what i last heard. so i headed back to hk. it was past 8 and the evening crew was in, so was the sausage fest, but i hung out for a couple of drinks anyway.

earlier in the day, freddie recommend a tall blond and i did not bring her over because i was with jesse. so went i went back, i hunted her down like rambo, but without all the muscles. i had a drink with her and she was added to my hk bucket list. she wanted to go to one of the hk vip rooms, but i was vip room spent out at that point.

i was back across the border by 10. i honestly feel that it is a blessing and a curse to be 20 minutes away from the zona norte; and thoughts on this?well my friday in la zona was frankly nor great. the best part saying hello, to member tom jackin great guy. went to hk to find this guy and a certain chica and found neither but did find tom around the corner talking to a nice street girl. should have followed my instincts and gone immediately with this this street chica but member tom assured me she would be there i had my doubts, but wanted to talked to my friend we went to tropical and tom had a real spinner there but went back to get street chica sure enough she was gone! so i hung out at taco stand where last seen hoping she would reappear and while waiting an older lady beatriz about 45, english speaker asked me for a taco so i said why not / poorly dressed not sure she was working! anyway this woman beatriz offered me a bbbj with swallowing for $20 i said 200pesos she agreed i figured she was doable for that deed and no more as i was horny as hell and we went to a shitty 30p hotel for a half hour. i swear i though this gal was going to bite my dick off! obviously not experienced, just a broke middle age housewife who lived in california 20 years then deported! after a few minutes i said forget it! then this gal did something unheard of! she said she did not give good service and handed me back one of the 100pesos notes i gave her! wtf? so i returned to taco stand the chica recomended bytom jenkins had returned we made a deal for 300p plus 60p for room a little high for street gal but this girl 25 and very attractive. we go to room she puts on condom starts cbj and says sangre, blood! i put on my glass sure enough a cut on my dick from the other gal really small but looked real bloody when she was sucking rather disgusting and basically end of session. the cut is tiny and like a small scape really from the other gals tooth probably. pretty much healed by morning. so out 360p for this street chica, really not her fault at all she kept the money i even bought her taco afterwards. damn sure wish i had followed my instincts and grabbed this second chica first! disgusted took collectivo for 16pesos where i am living home by ten or earlier not a good night. big john.

[TomJackin]

I swear I though this gal was going to bite my dick off! Obviously not experienced, just a broke middle age housewife who lived in California 20 years then deported! After a few minutes I said forget it! Then this gal did something unheard of! She said she did not give good service and handed me BACK one of the 100pesos notes I gave her! WTF?Damn Big John, you would figure at her age she would be able to suck a dick. It's no wonder she was deported! Maybe she gave you back 100 pesos so you could buy some Band-Aids?

Sorry to hear that your night went to shit, but it was still great to run into you again!

[Big John 1]

Damn Big John, you would figure at her age she would be able to suck a dick. It's no wonder she was deported! Maybe she gave you back 100 pesos so you could buy some Band-Aids?

Sorry to hear that your night went to shit, but it was still great to run into you again!And great to run into you again, also, the worst part was losing that nice street chica we both know, oh well my old dick will recover. And when she returned 100p out of 200pesos because not good service that blew my mind strange things occur en La Zona. Hey sure did like your Tropical gal.

[Big John 1]

Got off collectivo from Rosarito about 4pm yesterday. At about 2nd and Modero was waiting for a red light a young motorcycle cop pulls over I figure I am screwed? The guy says in English, can I help you with anything Sir / I was dumbfounded. Jose. 22, only on force two months! We talked couple minutes. I have met a few cops like this in US very rare the Boy Scout type guy want to help people they either quit in a year or less or become corrupt like huge majority of cops! I feel sorry for Jose, an angel surrounded by sharks!

[Elregar]

Hey dudes. I'm on my last day of a three day trip. I'm staying at Hotel Ticuan. A great hotel. Very helpful and friendly staff. If your Spanish is lacking you won't have a problem here as the staff all speak English. NFL and MLB playoffs in the bar on big flat screens. The hotel is very clean and modern and it will be my first choice on return trips. First night I met Anabel. One of Tania's girls. She is very, very sweet and very accomodating. Despite the language barrier we were able to communicate. We had some dinner from the hotel restaurant and watched a little tv before she departed. If you like seafood, I recommend the seafood soup. A very large bowl filled with shrimp, mussels and many other tasty tidbits. The fettucine alfredo is good too. I arrived late Saturday afternoon after being awake for over 24 hrs due to work and travel. Anabel came over and helped put me to sleep. Sunday morning I was up early. I went down to the restaurant and had a cup of coffee and walked around the lobby, outside to have a smoke. Smoking is allowed in the bar area but not in the restaurant area. The cooks were already prepping for the day and it was fun to watch them work their magic in the open kitchen. After my coffee I set out on foot to enjoy the early morning Baja weather. I wasn't worried about being mugged or anything. Lots of shopkeepers getting ready for the business day. I headed towards the giant arch and was stopped by two policeman in a truck as I was walking. They asked what I was doing, I told them I was just out walking and enjoying the weather. They asked me

Where I lived and I responded by telling them I was staying at the hotel as I wasn't sure if they actually wanted to know where I lived permanently or if they wanted to know where I was staying while in Tijuana. They said ok and drove off. Whew! I instantly thought of all the horror stories I've heard and read over the years. Anyway, on my way I went. I soon crossed the street and headed back the way I came. I was trying to find zona Rio but didn't really know where I was going. Ai alai stadium cause I like the building. BTW, there is a map of the city in front of the stadium. I realized I had been way off the mark. Ok no problema. I found a cabby fiddling with his car and jumped inside for a trip to Adelitas. He dropped me off and I went into HK instead. I don't remember any names. Just beer, titties, butts, and football. I ended up buying quite a few beers for this chica in a referee jersey (made for a woman). She was cute but I wasn't feeling up for a trip in private. I was watching the Steelers lose (bummer as they are my team). I rolled over to Adelitas to see what was up. IMHO HK has better looking women. Stayed for one beer at Adelitas then back to HK. Didn't stay long as I got hungry for some street tacos. Walked the corner shop and sat down next to a couple of American dudes and got two tacos, frijoles, why agua for $4 US. Blows taco bell out of the water LOL. They were so good and I'm heading back to HK today just so I have an excuse to go eat there again. I started to get a little tired so I canned it back to my hotel where I contacted Tania to attain some company for awhile. It being Sunday night there were not too many options. It's family day, and I like that. I ended up meeting Sandy. Very accommodating. She has implants but they are well done. She keeps in shape and has wonderful curves. Flat stomach, gorgeous behind. Both her and Anabel are recommended as far as I'm concerned. Sandy helped me to relax and then we parted ways after an hour. I couldn't sleep so I went. Down the hotel bar for a cup of coffee and a smoke and watched some tv. The restaurant closes early on Sunday so I missed dinner but thats ok because I just made up for with a big breakfast. Two eggs scrambled, with chiles and salsa mixed in, three large strips of thick bacon, large orange juice, refried beans, coffee, three large pieces of toast, and some potatoes from room service. $11 US. I'm not sure what to do next, I think I'll take a nap and call Tania! Viva la Mexico.

[Phordphan]

Anyway, on my way I went. I soon crossed the street and headed back the way I came. I was trying to find zona Rio but didn't really know where I was going. Ai alai stadium cause I like the building. BTW, there is a map of the city in front of the stadium. I realized I had been way off the mark. Ok no problema.Nice TR. Thanks.

Be careful and don't get your zonas mixed up. You were looking for the Zona Norte, a / k/a Zona Rojo. The Zona Rio is along the river, and has all the higher-end shopping and dining venues. Not the same place at all! :D

[Oh Ya Papi]

So funny I feel ya! Been there, a little more pay and instincts better than that. I called it off in Peru once and with one of those catholic dress girls in zona rosa horrible masturbation way better. Feel them out maybe pay more. Funny story!


Well my Friday in La Zona was frankly nor great. The best part saying Hello, to member Tom Jackin great guy. Went to HK to find this guy and a certain chica and found neither but did find Tom around the corner talking to a nice street girl. Should have followed my instincts and gone immediately with this this street chica but member Tom assured me she would be there I had my doubts, but wanted to talked to my friend we went to Tropical and Tom had a real spinner there but went back to get street chica sure enough she was gone! So I hung out at Taco stand where last seen hoping she would reappear and while waiting an older lady Beatriz about 45, English speaker asked me for a taco so I said why not / Poorly dressed not sure she was working! Anyway this woman Beatriz offered me a BBBJ with swallowing for $20 I said 200pesos she agreed I figured she was doable for that deed and no more as I was horny as Hell and we went to a shitty 30p hotel for a half hour. I swear I though this gal was going to bite my dick off! Obviously not experienced, just a broke middle age housewife who lived in California 20 years then deported! After a few minutes I said forget it! Then this gal did something unheard of! She said she did not give good service and handed me BACK one of the 100pesos notes I gave her! WTF? So I returned to Taco Stand the chica recomended byTom Jenkins had returned we made a deal for 300p plus 60p for room a little high for street gal but this girl 25 and very attractive. We go to room she puts on condom starts CBJ and says sangre, blood! I put on my glass sure enough a cut on my dick from the other gal really small but looked real bloody when she was sucking rather disgusting and basically end of session. The cut is tiny and like a small scape really from the other gals tooth probably. Pretty much healed by morning. So out 360p for this street chica, really not her fault at all she kept the money I even bought her taco afterwards. Damn sure wish I had followed my instincts and grabbed this second chica first! Disgusted took collectivo for 16pesos where I am living home by ten or earlier not a good night. Big John.

[Rahodeb]

This seems like a bargain. I emailed them, and they confirmed in an hour. I asked if additional fees for bringing chicas NOT from Tropical, they replied can bring guests from anyplace, no extra charge! Bueno! I am in Rosarito living there for a month, this seems like a great deal. Will report.Thinking of staying at Rizo De Oro. How was your experience there? Bad or good?

[Big John 1]

Thinking of staying at Rizo De Oro. How was your experience there? Bad or good?And you can bring anybody to rooms no extra fees. Brought street girl there no hassles. Hope to go again over weekend. Big John

[Big John 1]

There are about 4 to 5 blocks north of border on left give great rate, no hassles changed $500 at this rte guy next to me changed $5000 to pesos. Unlike most places no I'd required. Only 2 windows next to parking lot again ABC Casa de recommended now I do not have to peso so much! LOL! Big John

[Baxter Slade]

I was going to make a Tijuana trip next week, and with all this talk about the good exghange rate I was thinking about if I should get pesos before I cross (never done it before) but it sounds like a good idea. I was just wondering how it would work at the Ticuan. I know they require a credit card as far as booking and getting the internet discount. I did notice on my last credit card statement it does say something about the exchange rate. So do they already take into account the value of the dollar. Or is it better for me to book it on the card but then when it comes time to pay, pay in pesos and have it taken off the card.

[Artisttyp]

I was going to make a Tijuana trip next week, and with all this talk about the good exghange rate I was thinking about if I should get pesos before I cross (never done it before) but it sounds like a good idea. I was just wondering how it would work at the Ticuan. I know they require a credit card as far as booking and getting the internet discount. I did notice on my last credit card statement it does say something about the exchange rate. So do they already take into account the value of the dollar. Or is it better for me to book it on the card but then when it comes time to pay, pay in pesos and have it taken off the card.Always ask to be billed in foreign currency when you use your charge card overseas. I don't know the technicalities of it but it winds up being more favorable to you. What you may not realize is that a lot of people will charge you an extra percentage to use your card. Why? They want to defray the vendor charges onto you. Usually that is around +10%. Basically if you want to use your card to pay you pay ALL costs. Welcome to the 3rd world.

On top of that you will have I think a 3% international adjustment fee added to your card when using your card overseas. If you get points back that you can cash in for money later on you may not care. My math skills are not up to par to figure out the cost benefit ratio for you.

Cash is king. If you like a place make a deal via email and pay in cash. Hide it where the sun don't shine until you get there. No fees no hidden charges and no worries.

Pesos will serve you well for SGs and most other local purchases...well recommended.

* Don't forget to go to the bank and get 5's 10's and 1's. Load up...you WILL NOT be sorry that you did.

[Fnord]

I've had some pretty lousy crossings this summer, we usually go on Thursday mornings and head back around suppertime. Sometimes we've had well over an hour wait. Past two Thursdays between 18:00-19:00? 15 minutes. Word is people are scared of collapsing bridges and such. I don't know, but if anyone's putting off a trip because they're worried about walking back. Now's the time to enjoy.

[Big John 1]

First around 3pm yesterday went to Hotel Nelson for a cita with regular chica she never showed up in the bar so around 4pm walked down the street to an outdoor place advertising one dollar Coronas and had about 4. Went to HK to find member Tom Jackin and looked for a chica there found neither I think chica I looked for probably quit. So left HK and in front of Adelitas saw a gal who looked like he Mexican version of an an Iowa farm girl, tall about 5 foot 10inches, robust looking, huge tits! Camelita from Culican very little English but luckily I speak Spanish. She said she was hungry and about to leave Tijuana for Culican so we went around corner and shared a couple spicy shrimp tacos at outdoor place delicious. Said she was 39 almost 40 but I thought maybe 32! Said her esposo killed in a drug war this I believe! Especially after what happened next. Staying in Hotel La Oficina next to hotel Del Sol Wanted to do full hour session sin ropa BBJ todo sin ropa she said 400pesos will ask for no money in advance but when we finish you will pay me more! Sounded like a salespersons trick but I was game and thought this chica would be good. And those tits got to me! Took cab to Hotel La Oficina 2 to 3 blocks only 20p! Very nice hotel by my standards huge king bed she pays 320p per noche. The desk clerk hit me for 50p extra and I did not care! She was just as friendly in room as on calle. Heavier than I though sin ropa but ok! We had nice warm shower together and she did a little BBJ in the shower! Next a great tit roll damned near came! She seemed to like to be on top and talked dirty a lot in Espanol I like this gal but oh by aching back too she knew how to move! More BBJ this made up for last weeks bad experience! Junior stayed straight up she also did much deep kissing! But for some reason could not cum this happens some times with Vitamin V and drinking! Session nearing end I was about to forget about coming and then heard a click! WTF? My right wrist was hand cuffed to side of bed! When I was lying on my back! Then she pulled out another individual handcuff and handcuffed other wrist! Frankly I was kind of scared and thought maybe there goes my pants and my wallet! Then this chica pulls small whip out of her purse she if I did not cum she was going to have to whip me! WTF! About this time I let go big time! Great! Fantastic! She said she learned all these tricks from her drug dealer esposo! Offered me TLN for 2000p great price but did not have near that much on me which was probably good as doubt could handle TLN with this chica! And she was right. I paid her way more than agreed for a very unique session. I had about 750p left on me I gave her 700p, a very unusual thing for me to do but once if a life time experience. When I got home to Rosarito I had only 6p on me. Who cares! She rates in my top 4or 5 fantastic experiences in many decades of mongering. I am 67 and not sure I ould handle this chica long term! Said returning to Culican soon! Damn! Maybe I should go there too! LOL! PS.Before she unhandcuffed me she teased me said llave perdido!1 lost the key!I love nutty women and this sometimes my downfall!

[Duke Of Pussy]

My friends and I finally made a weekend trip again to Tijuana. Overall good times as always. I won't recap my entire trip but post some details that may help others.

First night we went to Peanuts and Beer outside the zona on Rev. Avenue. I know what many have said about this place with respect to being a shadow of its former glory and the rip off tactics some of the staff have done to others etc. However, I like this place and always try to get there at least once a year. First off, there were about 15 or so girls working including some pretty decent girls and 2-3 hotties. They still have the 2 songs for $20 and you can get sex etc either in the larger curtained areas or downstairs for $40-85 total, either way don't expect a nice clean bed etc. There appears to be a lot of bargaining power especially after you already had a girl or two. They also will throw in lap dances beforehand and really weren't watching the time especially if you throw a few bucks to the woman pimp waitress. I really think YMMV also is very high here. They did scam me once when the woman pimp waitress said 2 lap dances, BJ, and sex for $40 for the girl on stage. Then it became $20 for the room and $5 for the condom after I paid the $40. I came in her mouth so I wasn't too mad afterwards. The other 2 girls I had were straight forward and no scams. I got BBBJ's from all but the girls did seem concerned about making sure the staff didn't get wind. One hot girl I had gave a very GFE-type experience, very passionate. She ran up to me when I was leaving and gave me a huge hug and kiss good-bye. I took this as,"I kinda like you, how about you be my client much more often." Overall my friends and I all had a great time here. I recommend it for groups or more experienced solo mongers. Keep you bargaining wits with you and make sure you get them to price in the room and condom etc along with everything else you should do in a mexican strip club.

Second night went to Hong Kong, I haven't been there for a few years, usually just going strictly to Adelita's when in the zona. Very loud and crowded but still good times. I got the VIP card this time. They honored everything but the staff often was confused by it or acted so and said they would be right back but wouldn't return. My mistake, but I thought all lap dances were half off, but it is only the first as is the extended time, so that really sucked. Good news is they dated it good for a year instead of six months so I should get another 2 uses out of it. They give you $5 and hail a taxi for the border drop off which was also nice. I was very happy to run into a favorite girl from my previous Monterrey trips up until it got dangerous and got some great GFE action. One thing that was hard to get this time was some crotch and ass in the face when the girls were on stage for $1. Is this not common when it is busy or do you have to tip more or be much more aggressive?

I hope the info can be useful to some. Be safe, have fun.

[Guitarrefreak]

Headed down to Tijuana immediately after work on Friday and stormed my way from parking lot behind JIB to the zona. Same deal.

Hung out at the back alley for a little, discovered a "new" taco joint that is NOT the one at the corner of the main coahuila and constitucion but instead on the other side of the block, run by this senorita and her husband (?) , makes pretty damn good quesadilla de adobada for 3 dlls, can't be beat, anyway, headed to HK after.

Was fucking awesome to bump into JoeA again and his very hot looking date whom I spent the better part of 30 mins staring (sorry Joe.) , there were many other talents around that night but none that really caught my attention, had a few drinks w / Joe until my buddy ask me guess who he saw and it was none other than TomJackin'. Was awesome to spend time w / my 2 new buddies in Tijuana and I broke my own rule of downing too many tequilas in a short time (if I remember, maybe like 4 in 10 mins?). Anyway, I was walking on cloud at that time.

My buddy decided to head to las chavelas (bad choice, me thinks) at which point we lost Tijuana (who probably went off after the nicest pair of ass / tits he saw.) , while my buddy tried to spend time to seduce his new found love in chavelas, I followed JA to chicago (which I think I have started to have a new found liking for. If only my espanol can improve more quickly)

At some point, I was itching to head to amnesia to check out my atf#1 who has been elusive this period (more to follow below). Anyway, not much going on in amnesia, bumped into my atf#3, bought her a few drinks, she gave me a few deep kisses, but without my atf#1 around, nothing else seems to excite me, good thing about this place is that for the minimal cover, they give me 2 free loaded drinks as well as some basic snacks, after about 1 hr, we decided it was time to cut out and head back out to the zona

Spent a little bit of time checking out the SW scene, and this one girl who typically stands on the other (non-HK) side of the block whom I have promised to bang a few times, well, I eventually did that night but it was a little disappointment. 40 dlls for fucky sucky sin ropa but turned out to be only 15 mins and the tequila did not help me with cumming, so that was that, I should have spent that same amount of money on my regular SW, who, despite not allowing me to kiss has started to give me new positions, and make a little more noise while we are getting it on. Oh well, it was a new experience anyway.

Finally, ended the night with this fucking hot thing w / tall, full body (forgot her name but goes by something that starts w / F) and I met her a long time ago in amnesia anywya, she obviously recognized my face and smiled wide when she saw me, (looks like she just got out from upstairs) , anyway, offered to buy her a few drinks and she was happy to accept, not sure if it is my imagination but she seems to be a little more affectionate to me compared to when I see her with other guys, she allows me lips to graze her face and even grabs my hand. The many times I have seen her with other guys, typically she just hovers above them but not much else, then again, maybe it is just my little head doing the thinking,

Anyway, she had to leave a couple of times but always return as she promised, finally after her dance, I asked her if she wanted to go upstairs to which she looked at me and said "but I don't have sex with friends", eventually the conversation came to me asking her how much she charge, at first she wouldn't say citing that most guys leave after she quotes but I say try me anyway, she said 150 dlls for 30 mins, and I said "ok sounds good, lets stick with the drinks for now", me cheap bastard.

Anyway, she left me her number and we exchanged a few txts, she is one of those hotties who know there are guys in the world who will spend any amount to bag her regardless of whether they can afford it, I will just look to her as a trophy to be won.

UPDATE: my atf#1 has started texting me again quite aggressively despite having disappeared for a while without any news, too lazy to share all the details but I shall say that her unprecitability is what drives me nuts (read, obsessed) with her, and she never directly answers my question, we shall see what happens this week.

Happy mongering all

[ClamSlammer]

Guitarre,

If you're coming down this weekend we should grab a beer at Amnesia or HK. Sorry I didn't PM you last time as you asked but there doesn't seem to be a way to PM for me.

[SuperSteve]

This weekend will be the Tequila Expo from Wednesday to Sunday.

It will be on Ave. Revo and Calle 7. For more info google Tijuana Tequila. Booths with Tequila, raffles, etc. The preview of the Queen contestants will be on Saturday at 8 PM. From the look of the video from last year they have some very hot women.

Shows start at 2 PM, and I think it actually opens at about 10 AM.

For those Tequila lovers it should be a great time. Another weekend in Tijuana for me. I need intervention. If you see a fat, old, fart, with a Panama hat on, stumbling around prop me up.

Health & happiness to all.

[Irony Monger]

This weekend will be the Tequila Expo from Wednesday to Sunday.

It will be on Ave. Revo and Calle 7. For more info google Tijuana Tequila. Booths with Tequila, raffles, etc. The preview of the Queen contestants will be on Saturday at 8 PM. From the look of the video from last year they have some very hot women.

Shows start at 2 PM, and I think it actually opens at about 10 AM.

For those Tequila lovers it should be a great time. Another weekend in Tijuana for me. I need intervention. If you see a fat, old, fart, with a Panama hat on, stumbling around prop me up.

Health & happiness to all.Thanks for the info. I'll be in San Diego on Saturday. Now I have one more reason to cross the border that afternoon.

[Grandma]

Guys, I don't know how to activate my Telcel sim. Can you guys give me some directions. I'm trying to activate it in Los Angeles. Do I have to go down to Mexico to do it? I want to use this card to text my girls while I'm in Mexico since my T-Mobile texting rates are crazy in Mexico!

[Artisttyp]

Guys, I don't know how to activate my Telcel sim. Can you guys give me some directions. I'm trying to activate it in Los Angeles. Do I have to go down to Mexico to do it? I want to use this card to text my girls while I'm in Mexico since my T-Mobile texting rates are crazy in Mexico!It should automatically activate once you get down to mexico providing the SIM card is still active. Just add some minutes onto it when you get there. I have a Telcel SIM card in my phone now but I can't connect either. Chances are you have a pre-paid plan. Therefore it will not work while roaming.

If that fails just agree to email each other. Internet cafes are all over TJ and cost next to nothing. Maybe it would be a good idea to open up a separate email account for chicas...just in case.

[ClamSlammer]

Guys, I don't know how to activate my Telcel sim. Can you guys give me some directions. I'm trying to activate it in Los Angeles. Do I have to go down to Mexico to do it? I want to use this card to text my girls while I'm in Mexico since my T-Mobile texting rates are crazy in Mexico!There are two ways to activate a prepaid Telcel SIM:

1. You have to be a Mexican citizen. Call Telcel customer service. I think it is *3 but not sure. The phone must be in a Telcel service area. If you are in L. A. You are probably roaming on AT&T and I don't think you'll be able to reach customer service. Once you are in Mexico, call customer service. They will ask you the basic questions. Then they will ask for your citizenship number. Obviously, if you are not a Mexican citizen you won't have one. If you have a Mexican friend, you can have your friend use their citizenship number to activate you SIM card. As long as you have a citizenship number, your phone can be activated over the phone.

2. If you are not a Mexican citizen, you MUST go to a corporate owned Telcel store to activate your phone. There is one in Plaza Rio, a $3 cab ride away. There's actually 2 Telcel stores there. You must go to the big, huge one that is corporately owned. The other store is much smaller. They will ask you for your basic info. They will also require your passport. Good thing about Telcel is that you get to choose 3 favorite numbers (must be Telcel) that you can call / text for free.

And when you add minutes, do so at Oxxo or some other corporate store. The independent little shops might be tempted to rip you off. There is a small cell shop on Revolution, just south of Ticuan. I went there to add $10 each to two different phones. At the time, I should have received approx 137 pesos credit per phone. But the text I received indicated I only received 100 pesos. The shopkeeper, who's teeth looked like he was chewing on a bag of rocks, ripped me off. When I complained, he stated that Telcel uses a 10 to 1 ex-rate. I said no way is that possible and then he said they use 11. 5 to 1. He offered me back $2 when really he stole about 75 pesos which would be about $5. 50. I didn't want to sit and argue over $3. 50 so I just took the $2 and left. The next day, my cell didn't work so I went online to check my balance. It was less than 2 pesos. So that bastard must have canceled my credits that I paid for.

[Vitrea]

Guys, I don't know how to activate my Telcel sim. Can you guys give me some directions. I'm trying to activate it in Los Angeles. Do I have to go down to Mexico to do it? I want to use this card to text my girls while I'm in Mexico since my T-Mobile texting rates are crazy in Mexico!I automatically does it. If it does not, go into the phone-network-carrier settings and pick the network of choice. Very simple.

[Vitrea]

Headed down to Tijuana immediately after work on Friday and stormed my way from parking lot behind JIB to the zona. Same deal.

Hung out at the back alley for a little, discovered a "new" taco joint that is NOT the one at the corner of the main coahuila and constitucion but instead on the other side of the block, run by this senorita and her husband (?) ,

Finally, ended the night with this fucking hot thing w / tall, full body (forgot her name but goes by something that starts w / F) and I met her a long time ago in amnesia anywya, she obviously recognized my face and smiled wide when she saw me, (looks like she just got out from upstairs) , anyway, offered to buy her a few drinks and she was happy to accept, not sure if it is my imagination but she seems to be a little more affectionate to me compared to when I see her with other guys, she allows me lips to graze her face and even grabs my hand. The many times I have seen her with other guys, typically she just hovers above them but not much else, then again, maybe it is just my little head doing the thinking,

Anyway, she had to leave a couple of times but always return as she promised, finally after her dance, I asked her if she wanted to go upstairs to which she looked at me and said "but I don't have sex with friends", eventually the conversation came to me asking her how much she charge, at first she wouldn't say citing that most guys leave after she quotes but I say try me anyway, she said 150 dlls for 30 mins, and I said "ok sounds good, lets stick with the drinks for now", me cheap bastard.

Anyway, she left me her number and we exchanged a few txts, she is one of those hotties who know there are guys in the world who will spend any amount to bag her regardless of whether they can afford it, I will just look to her as a trophy to be won.

UPDATE: my atf#1 has started texting me again quite aggressively despite having disappeared for a while without any news, too lazy to share all the details but I shall say that her unprecitability is what drives me nuts (read, obsessed) with her, and she never directly answers my question, we shall see what happens this week.

Happy mongering all

Very nice report. Hello, my friend, care to PM me the contact info for the expensive hottie you were referring to? Thanks.

-V

[Ramprats]

Can you get after market V in Tijuana it been 20yrs sence I was there.

[Reinaldo]

I automatically does it. If it does not, go into the phone-network-carrier settings and pick the network of choice. Very simple.Are you speaking from experience? The Telcel website says you cannot activate your phone while you're in the USA.

¿Puedo activar el servicio estando en USA?

No. Para poder activar el servicio lo debe de realizar estando en cobertura nacional.

http://www.telcel.com/portal/search.do

[Ninguno Especial]

The Telcel website says you cannot activate your phone while you're in the USA.And even activated the phone is practically useless in the USA except for receiving text messages. Great to have and use in Tijuana though. I've had mine for many years but maybe 3 years ago they made everyone register them using their full name and some other criteria. Back then you could do it by sending a text msg to Tel Cel but now days you have to go to an office. It's a pain.

Then if you go past 60 days without buying a prepaid card they cut your service off until you recharge it. Another pain.

[Big John 1]

Can you get after market V in Tijuana it been 20yrs sence I was there.They are all over Tijuana and all over Mexico. 219 pesos or about $18 for 4 100 mg. Pills called Maxfort Zimax. There are cheaper options but ound this chain dependable no phony stuff. And watch out for the cops technically you need presciption but famarcy sells without it.

[Big John 1]

Located on Benito Juarez RRosarito near MC Donalds. They asked what name wanted then registered for me. They even suggest a Hispanic one! Had to wait maybe 20 minutes tlil they confirmed online. Got a phone there for 130pesos with 50 units airtime. Big bulky, old, but works have to carry in a bag phone rebuilt cerca 1995. I understand Moviestar only works in bigger areas of Mexico still great deal

[Big John 1]

If any of you guys heading that way you need to read my report in Ensenada section.

[Ninguno Especial]

Sort of quiet around here, no posts for a couple of days. Is everyone down at the tequila expo getting sloshed? I checked it out and it was seemed smaller in area than last year but plenty of booths offering samples and a higher percentage of pretty hostesses. Probably a better selection than last year.

We had our share of tequila as well as some tacos. Worth the 70 pesos ($5. 30) entry fee.

It runs through Sunday but today will be the highest attendance.

[Sock111]

Sort of quiet around here, no posts for a couple of days. Is everyone down at the tequila expo getting sloshed? I checked it out and it was seemed smaller in area than last year but plenty of booths offering samples and a higher percentage of pretty hostesses. Probably a better selection than last year.

We had our share of tequila as well as some tacos. Worth the 70 pesos ($5. 30) entry fee.

It runs through Sunday but today will be the highest attendance.I'm on my way down there today. I look forward to checking out the expo.

[TomJackin]

i got into hk around three and most of the booths were occupied, quite a few of them were occupied by asian tourists. wtf? what company organizes these damn tours? i saw a tour group come through the main entrance last friday. and hk charged each person in the group an entry fee. i got a kick out of that one.

scored a booth in the back that had an ac vent overhead because it was warm in there. it wasn't more than a minute when one of my favorites stopped by to say hello. she was also in a playful mood, so let the booth follies begin! i asked speedy if he had a camera, and he said no, and then he asked at least 6 other meseros, and they all said no. wtf? seven meseros with no cameras? but they all had that fucking cheese plate!

finally a mesero showed up with a camera, and shortly thereafter a few more showed up with cameras; go figure. speedy kept trying to get in the shots, but i told a did not want a picture of a maricóand. when we did finally sit up and after i licked my fingers, i noticed that we drew a crowd of about a dozen spectators. i looked at them and said,"no propina? wtf?"

on my way out of hk, i ran into guitarrefreak, and we headed to tropical. for whatever reason, tropical is trying something different. i like the place because of the music and dancing, but instead there was about 6-7 girls take the stage one after another, and stripped and danced on the pole, wth tropical? then after each dance, the girl was escorted around by the announcer and hitting us up for propinas. i broke out my,"such one nipple and touch that ass rule" if you want a buck. it worked!

ended up in the big vip room with a butt load of beers and screwdrivers, plus the girl of course. usually the only time someone knocks on the door as when you press a button for service that i think lights up something on the outside. or maybe the button sets off a high pitch noise that only meseros can hear; guess i'm not sure. anyhow, we are in the booth knee deep in passion and we hear a knock on the door. we both look and it's the fucking "snack bastard" and he is wanting to sell us snacks from his little snack selection basket! wtf? my guess is that he figured we must have worked up an appetite was just trying to help; bless his heart.

headed back over to hk and watched somewhat of a shift change. a lot of new faces, and many had nice asses to boot. i about ran out of dollar bills because there were so many new asses to play with. i figured i had enough wtf moments and didn't want to push my luck; so headed back around ten. even with the wtf moments, it was still a fun romp.

[Guitarrefreak]

Good times buddy, good times.

I headed back to HK after Tropical to continue my drinking with my new found favorita from HK. Not sure how it happened, but for about 7 hours of time with this girl, I was down about 150 dlls (not all with her though, includes tips, my own drinks, etc) , actually come to think about it, it is more like 100 dlls with this girl. She asked me to spend the night but I could not, but we did agree to meet again next Friday and head to las pulgas after her shift, will talk more about it.

Side story, actually my trip down yesterday was to meet with my favorita from Amnesia, who seemed to have started working at HK, this really kills me inside but whatever, anyway, she flaked on me at the last minute and said that she had homework to do and asked me what I was doing at 8pm, anyway, I decided I have had enough with this and she is mi favorita no more.

(TomJackin' hope I am making you proud.)

Health to all.


On my way out of HK, I ran into Guitarrefreak, and we headed to Tropical.

[Reinaldo]

Tropical is trying something different. I like the place because of the music and dancing, but instead there was about 6-7 girls take the stage one after another, and stripped and danced on the pole, WTH Tropical? Then after each dance, the girl was escorted around by the announcer and hitting us up for propinas.Tropical has had a strip show, known euphemistically as la variedad for years. Did they stop doing it for awhile?

[TomJackin]

Tropical has had a strip show, known euphemistically as la variedad for years. Did they stop doing it for awhile?I stop in there almost on a weekly basis and it is always around the same time. It could be that they changed the time of the strip show. For the last year or so, I've only seen the show like that a couple of times, and that was usually later on in the evening. Usually they have the Mexican music playing, or they throw in a singer from time to time. I guess it is about time that they put that damn pole to use.

So, I guess I don't have a good answer, but I did try like hell.

[Joe Arturo]

I decided I have had enough with this and she is mi favorita no more.

(TomJackin' hope I am making you proud.)

Health to all.Its about time. She has really been playing you. I am proud of you. Who is your new favorita in HK?

[Guitarrefreak]

No new favorita (yet) , at this time, I am down for anything.


Its about time. She has really been playing you. I am proud of you. Who is your new favorita in HK?

[Irony Monger]

took one for the team tonight. decided to venture beyond adelita's, honk kong, well known agencies, and the usual girls in front of the street hotels, hoping a different bar might prove itself worthy. man was i wrong.

i really hate to post rep001hing reviews, because i know this is the hardest business in the world, but blatant lairs need to be called out. cut to the chase. i paid more than enough for a two girl all night session with the full knowledge of the so called manager, and received 5 minutes in a room before the lights burned out. the next two hours were spend trying to find a new room, with the manager promising everything would be fine over and over, but in the end the room was not provided and the girls said "time is up" and walked even though the deal was for all night. the manager just shrugged when i pointed this out, and he know up front the deal was for all night.

do not patronize this place. tell your friends to avoid it like the plague. if you see anyone walking in there, warn them. this place needs to close down (yeah, i know another just like it will open the week after).

too bad, because the day started off so great. i will post the rest of my tijuana report later, but needed to get this off my chest now. signing off for the night.

can't wait to get back to the philippines. for all that i might b*tch about the food in pi, i have never be cheated like this there.

[ClamSlammer]

Went to Peanuts and Beer on Fri. It sucks. Really dark in there and I know why-they don't want you to get a good look at the girls because they are ugly. Extremely persistant and high-pressure waitstaff constantly hounding you to buy buckets of beer. They had a 2-1 beer promo so I only stayed about 20 minutes to finish my beers. No cover though.

[Artisttyp]

Yet another birthday in Tijuana (numero 42). This makes 3 years in a row.

I am leaving to the airport in a few hours. My hotel is pre booked for a month to get the deal they gave me.

I intend to eat screw and buy duty free items for Christmas. Hopefully I will be inspired to take an overnight trip somewhere. If not Tijuana will suit me just fine.

As usual no promises.

If anybody is around pm me. Always willing to meet the "good guys".

[Reinaldo]

yes, the playboy club is a notorious clip joint. however, there are ways to avoid being ripped off. how much did they get you for?


took one for the team tonight. decided to venture beyond adelita's, honk kong, well known agencies, and the usual girls in front of the street hotels, hoping a different bar might prove itself worthy. man was i wrong.

i really hate to post rep001hing reviews, because i know this is the hardest business in the world, but blatant lairs need to be called out. cut to the chase. i paid more than enough for a two girl all night session with the full knowledge of the so called manager, and received 5 minutes in a room before the lights burned out. the next two hours were spend trying to find a new room, with the manager promising everything would be fine over and over, but in the end the room was not provided and the girls said "time is up" and walked even though the deal was for all night. the manager just shrugged when i pointed this out, and he know up front the deal was for all night.

[TomJackin]

Took one for the team tonight. Do not patronize this place. Tell your friends to avoid it like the plague. If you see anyone walking in there, warn them. This place needs to close down (yeah, I know another just like it will open the week after).Thanks for taking one for the team. I already did, but forgot to report about the place.

I was in there a few weeks ago because I was meeting a girl that worked in both, NY and Playboy clubs. First off, they lied to me (go figure) that she was there, but changing clothes. Next the meseros and women hounded the hell out of me, for drinks, tips, etc. Many on this forum complain about the HK meseros, but compared to what I experienced in Playboy, the HK meseros don't seem so bad after all.

After about 15 minutes, and one drink finished; I got the hell out of there. There were still people pulling on my arm to keep me in there. Agree, the place sucks!

[Baxter Slade]

I hit the border about 4 pm on Thursday. Things did not start out good, the CBP guys had some barriers set up and you had to pass through an opening where they had a dog sniff you. Will for some reason the dog was attracted to me and they pulled me aside. They start out by asking me how much money I have I say a few hundred and they say you know it is ok to bring more than 10 thousand dollars accross the border, as long as you tell us first but if we search you and you lied then its big trouble. I say ok maybe 4 hundred but 10 thousand no way. They then start pulling stuff out of my pocket and searching my backpack and after about 15 minutes they let me go. No sorry sir for the inconvience they really treat people like shit.

I checked into the Ticuan and headed to the Zona My GF / BG was not working but had some family commitment until 7:30 so that gave me some time to hit up a few clubs. I guess I'am getting burned out on the clubs in the Zona I walked around and was getting bored, same old thing give me $1 buy me a drink, we go to the rrrroooom. Finally 7:30 rolled around and I headed over to the dive bar I was supposed to meet my GF at. She showed up on time and we stayed for a few drinks.

We then headed for Las Pulgas we spent some time out front waiting for a friend to meet us. As we were standing by the fence to the Tequila Festival some vendors were bringing us some Tequila samples. Spent a few hours drinking and dancing and then took that nice short walk back to the Ticuan.

Ever since I took her on a shopping spree at the local Costco her texting has gone from a once a week Como Esta to sending like three texts a day begging for sexo. So when we got to the room she wasn't kidding it was a very sleepless night.

The next day we headed to the Zona had lunch at the seafood restaurant across from the Tropical. We then picked up her car and she kept saying something about park I thought she wanted to just park the car at the hotel garage. But instead we ended up at some big park in Tijuana. This is the stuff I have really come to enjoy just the simplest adventures outside the Zona. We sat in the park for hours just holding hands and watching all the people. At one point an auxilary policeman came around he had one handcuff on a guy who was walking a dog, he walked up to some guy who was just sitting on the bench and through the other cuff on him and then started hauling off the 2 guys and the dog. Not sure what that was all about but it was entertaining.

And then reality set in, I wasn't enjoying a beautiful day in the park with my girlfriend I was with a hooker. She started getting texts from a guy who said he was at the bar and he wanted to see her. She told him she was off work. He then told her he had been jacked up by the police and they took some money from him and he was headed back to the USA (this sound familiar to anyone maybe we are seeing the same girl). I have noticed you don't see the Federal Police around Tijuana that much anymore and I'am hearing of more and more incidents of the police messing with people it did seem like the police were leaving people alone for awhile but maybe those days are gone. And then as she was scrolling through her phone there were about 5 Mi Amors listed silly me I thought I was MI Amor. I also came across a big article she was carrying around in her purse about prostitution in Tijuana. I'am curious what the article was about so if any spanish speaker comes across the article it was in LA Opinion dated July 5th let me know.

We then headed back to the Hotel and it was about 5 o clock as soon as we got comfortable in the bed there was a knock at the door and it was the maid wanting to clean the room. My first complaint about the Ticuan we are gone all day and they come at 5 to clean the room. Then we leave for dinner and tell the front desk we want the room cleaned now and they say the maid all ready came and you said no so now it is to late.

After dinner and a few drinks at Rio Verde it was back to the room for another night of to much sexo. Yes I would say I'am a sex addict but I can't keep up with this girl. By morning my dick was ready to fall off. I remember Country John warning me about the energy level of these chicas. Saturday she had to go home for family obligations and I found myself alone and depressed. I had no desire to hit the Zona or the Tequila festival. On top of that I woke up Saturday with a bad sore throat and no energy it was my worse day in Tijuana ever. I went to sleep early and checked out Sunday morning luckily there was hardly a line at the border.

[Phordphan]

Thanks for taking one for the team. I already did, but forgot to report about the place.

I was in there a few weeks ago because I was meeting a girl that worked in both, NY and Playboy clubs. First off, they lied to me (go figure) that she was there, but changing clothes. Next the meseros and women hounded the hell out of me, for drinks, tips, etc. Many on this forum complain about the HK meseros, but compared to what I experienced in Playboy, the HK meseros don't seem so bad after all.

After about 15 minutes, and one drink finished; I got the hell out of there. There were still people pulling on my arm to keep me in there. Agree, the place sucks!Hmm. That is so odd. But, this is Tijuana, and you never know.

I've been in several times, pre and post-remodel. I posted my good experiences here the last time.

But I was never hounded for drinks or tips. The mesero / as were always polite and attentive. If I didn't want the lady that they brought around, there was no pressure.

Absolutely no chip scams, cheese plate bullshit, or other nonsense.

Now, whenever a lady finished her drink they were always there trying to sell another, but that's to be expected. No trying to carry off half-finished Lady Drinks, or other shit that they've tried to pull on me on a number of occasions at HK. And the place is too small for them to run off with your large-denomination note, never to be seen again.

A few of the "more experienced" ladies might come up and ask for a teep. If they allow some fondling and groping, hey, it's worth a buck. Sometimes they try to cadge a drink, but you just say no.

Haven't been in several weeks, but if the really large mesera is there, she is an absolute hoot to talk to.

I have no particular hard-on for the place, and everybody's mileage varies. But to say that it's as bad as HK? C'mon! :D

[Member #2041]

Yet another birthday in Tijuana (numero 42). This makes 3 years in a row.

I am leaving to the airport in a few hours. My hotel is pre booked for a month to get the deal they gave me.

I intend to eat screw and buy duty free items for Christmas. Hopefully I will be inspired to take an overnight trip somewhere. If not Tijuana will suit me just fine.

As usual no promises.

If anybody is around pm me. Always willing to meet the "good guys".I would have joined you, but I'm presently in Puerto Vallarta. And finding that reasonably priced action (1000 pesos for an hour with a young cutie) is quite available here.

[TomJackin]

I have no particular hard-on for the place, and everybody's mileage varies. But to say that it's as bad as HK? C'mon! :DAlright, maybe I was a bit too hard on the place. But there were a couple of factors involved. First, it was early on, around 6, and I was the ONLY customer in the place, thus, I got more hounded than usual. Second, I was a new face in the place and I'm sure that didn't help either.

So it might have been a better experience if those factors were not in place.

I would be glad to join you someday so you can show me what the club really has to offer. :)

[Artisttyp]

I would have joined you, but I'm presently in Puerto Vallarta. And finding that reasonably priced action (1000 pesos for an hour with a young cutie) is quite available here.No worries. I know you mean well. I will be low balling it while you roll the big dice. We even each other out. Have a great time!

[Artisttyp]

I just arrived last night.

When I went to the 7/11 today I noticed that they were building next to Las Pulgas and the Ticuan. It happens to be a new parking garage for Las Pulgas. If you book a room over the tel or email make sure you tell them to put you away from the revolucion side of the street or the construction might be your alarm clock. I don't stay there myself but I would be pissed off if I arrived and I saw that. Its taller than Las Pulgas. A beast.

* I am a huge cologne guy and I know some of you guys like to wear some while mongering. I advise you to wait and purchase it in Tijuana at a store called LIVERPOOL in Plaza Rio. WHY? Because they get it sent directly from France and it is way more potenet and longer lasting than scents made in the USA. We don't allow them to use certain ingredients in the USA. Yet another reason to be pissed off. Do not purchase it at other stores. Chances are it is old stock sent from Mexico City. There are lots of fakes as well. I hate you guys that have access to Tijuana. LES ODIO.

I saw vice cops in the zona last night. That was a first for me. Be careful and just know eyes are watching you even if you don't see them.

All is well. Trying to keep myself occupied. Not easy for this loon.

Until Soon

[FlapJacK]

I just arrived last night.

When I went to the 7/11 today I noticed that they were building next to Las Pulgas and the Ticuan. It happens to be a new parking garage for Las Pulgas. If you book a room over the tel or email make sure you tell them to put you away from the revolucion side of the street or the construction might be your alarm clock. I don't stay there myself but I would be pissed off if I arrived and I saw that. Its taller than Las Pulgas. A beast.

* I am a huge cologne guy and I know some of you guys like to wear some while mongering. I advise you to wait and purchase it in Tijuana at a store called LIVERPOOL in Plaza Rio. WHY? Because they get it sent directly from France and it is way more potenet and longer lasting than scents made in the USA. We don't allow them to use certain ingredients in the USA. Yet another reason to be pissed off. Do not purchase it at other stores. Chances are it is old stock sent from Mexico City. There are lots of fakes as well. I hate you guys that have access to Tijuana. LES ODIO.

I saw vice cops in the zona last night. That was a first for me. Be careful and just know eyes are watching you even if you don't see them.

All is well. Trying to keep myself occupied. Not easy for this loon.

Until SoonThe Zona has Vice cops now? Please explain.

[ClamSlammer]

Anybody coming down this weekend?

[Locoaztec14]

Not sure about "vice Cops" but theirs people definitely watching foot traffic around the red zone; and if they notice you very suspicious they will definitely confront you and ask you what you looking for.

[Sock111]

Anybody coming down this weekend?I'm going to head down this Friday night and show Toto around. Any other ISG members want to meet up, send me a PM.

[FlapJacK]

Anybody coming down this weekend?I'm headed down on Saturday

[Keg]

I'm going to head down this Friday night and show Toto around. Any other ISG members want to meet up, send me a PM.I'll be there on Friday night too. Have you picked a time / place already?

Keg

[Artisttyp]

The Zona has Vice cops now? Please explain.There has always been a question whether or not they existed. On another forum guys with way more experience than me told me there werent any. I found that hard to believe. Maybe they just started having them since the police chief was ousted.

I think it is a good thing. I wanted to alert mongers who might be tempted to do something that they shouldn't be doing. It is never cool to go against the grain in Tijuana. Eventually you will pay the price. Also worth noting is there are agents here from the USA. They even made a movie about it. This is no secret.

* The store I mentioned with the cologne from france "liverpool" is actually closer to the imax theater and cultural center on (corner) blvd de los heroes. NOT in plaza Rio. I went there today and they sprayed my hand with the fragrance I use. It lasted all day even after washing my hands. They use animal products in france that they don't allow in the USA. That makes them more potent. If you are american you are made to suffer with cheaper goods. Loserville.

On a brighter note the exchange rate is totally in our favor. Some pricks however will only give you 11mx (on revo) for your dollar. Have both.

* Girls are still taking 200mx for a $20 session. It comes out to be around $15. 50. Plus I have been finding the $3 hotels.

I think a list of the $3 hotels is essential. Oddly enough they also tend to be more lax with the dreaded knock on the door. I need to write them down. Do any regulars know off hand which hotels they are and what they are called? I have a Tijuana zona map at home that we can pinpoint these places.

Off to celebrate my birthday. Today the bottom feeder turns 42. One load too many.

[Artisttyp]

I'll be there on Friday night too. Have you picked a time / place already?

KegAny room for an ass licker? I will hopefully be with " Tom Jenkins ".

[ClamSlammer]

I'm there Thur-Tues and staying at Hotel T. Let's meet up.

[Sgt Perv]

They have a few fake cops that will show you a badge on the downlow and try to scam you. Remember cops carry a gun, scammers do not, and if in doubt ask for a uniformed cop. He will not want that, so he will say you are disrespecting him. Then you know he is fake.

[Guitarrefreak]

This weekend is going to be rockin' for me.

I plan to cut the fuck out of work early, so I can go down to meet with a new girl I have befriended in HK.

Last week, she made me promise to take her to Las Pulgas after work which I did, and from today's call with her, she definitely remembered.

She asked me many times over for me to reassure her that I will not be having friends with me to kill the mood as she wants to have alone time with me.

I made that reassurance.

Hopefully I do not turn up dead in the streets or missing a kidney. On Saturday.

This girl says she wants to head down to Ensenada with me on Saturday but cannot make that promise because she has school work to do.

Maybe I should offer to do it for her (and then do her too.).

My dilemma is, my ultimate favorita has gotten back to me, and we had a nice dinner at TGI Friday's (WTF?) at Zona Rio yesterday.

What turned out was that her sister was visiting her for 2 weeks, and that she had an exam last week, hence the lack of responses and everything.

I believed her, she even dyed her hair back to black because she didn't want her sister to see.

What a lovely girl, she even told me how seriously her family celebrates Day of the Dead (Halloween) , no fucking around for them.

(TomJackin' and Joe Arturo. You guys can voice your disgust at me, but man, this girl has totally rob my senses).

No I did not fuck her last night, there was no need to. Dinner came down to about 30 dlls, + 15 dlls at a coffee shop after + taxi. All in all, maybe 50 dlls for a few hours of good time sounds about right.

I gave her 20 dlls for the taxi which she seemed to appreciate. Didn't want to set the wrong expectation by paying her for services not rendered.

Back to my dilemma is, she also said she wanted to hang out, but we made no promises, so I was thinking, maybe I can do the HK new girl on Friday, and then go for my favorita on Saturday, which will make it an awesome weekend, yeahhhhh.

Side story: remember this hot busty, ms I-know-how-much-I'm-worth-girl?

Well, when I was hanging out with my favorita at the coffee shop, this girl was handing out flyers.

I was so shocked to see her in street clothes that I could not react in time, but what it turned out was that the father of her daughter, has apparently kidnapped her daughter and is frantically looking.

She was crying, while I had my favorita next to me, in public.

I felt bad for this girl, to think how their private life is so fucked up, despite all the glamour and glitter we see in the bars.

Anyway, I helped her distribute some flyers on my way back and even across the border, since she say the man comes to work in SD.

She called me today to thank me for sending her some text message for emotional support, and apologized for causing trouble for me, and thank me for being a nice guy to her.

Nice guys finish last though.

However, I still cannot help but wonder, if this is an opportunity for something interesting to blossom between me and this unacquirable hottie.

Of course, the humane side of me wishes the best for her and curse the scumbag who made her cry.

[ClamSlammer]

Hey Guitarre,

Again, let me know if you want to do the Amnesia / HK / AB circuit this weekend. Sorry I didn't PM the first time but I couldn't because I don't have PM.

[Artisttyp]

I had a very strange experience last night. Yesterday was my birthday and one of the barkers at a strip club on revo and calle 4 (in front of the tourist hut across the street from peanuts. Upstairs) was begging me to buy a drink. Under normal circumstances I would never go into those places.

Anyways I ordered one beer and was on my way to HK 20 minutes later. Before I left I went into the bathroom to organize my money. When I was in the stall I heard two employees come in then suddenly I started smelling a very toxic chemical. It smelled more like clorox than anything else but it was not the usual smell of a floor being mopped. It was airborne and I believe deliberately sprayed into the stall I was in.

Immediately I sensed danger and I could feel myself getting faint and my heart racing. The shit burned my nose and entered my blood stream rather quickly. I rushed to get out of there and one of the employees bitched at me for not washing my hands. Under normal circumstances I would but I think he was trying to get me to stay longer. If I did I might not have made it out. Robbery? I was the only customer in the entire club and nobody would have missed me.

When I did make it out I felt my heart racing for around 2 hours afterwards and I can still taste some of the chemicals today. It was extremely potent.

This was definitely a huge wake up call. Is there a moral to the story? Yes. Be careful about going into clubs where you are the only customer in the joint.

I am ok though. I managed to go back out and enjoy myself afterwards but it did raise a concern.

[Guitarrefreak]

Holy shit, glad you made it out ok, some of those clubs on revue are really fucking shady.


I had a very strange experience last night. Yesterday was my birthday and one of the barkers at a strip club on revo and calle 4 (in front of the tourist hut across the street from peanuts. Upstairs) was begging me to buy a drink. Under normal circumstances I would never go into those places.

Anyways I ordered one beer and was on my way to HK 20 minutes later. Before I left I went into the bathroom to organize my money. When I was in the stall I heard two employees come in then suddenly I started smelling a very toxic chemical. It smelled more like clorox than anything else but it was not the usual smell of a floor being mopped. It was airborne and I believe deliberately sprayed into the stall I was in.

Immediately I sensed danger and I could feel myself getting faint and my heart racing. The shit burned my nose and entered my blood stream rather quickly. I rushed to get out of there and one of the employees bitched at me for not washing my hands. Under normal circumstances I would but I think he was trying to get me to stay longer. If I did I might not have made it out. Robbery? I was the only customer in the entire club and nobody would have missed me.

When I did make it out I felt my heart racing for around 2 hours afterwards and I can still taste some of the chemicals today. It was extremely potent.

This was definitely a huge wake up call. Is there a moral to the story? Yes. Be careful about going into clubs where you are the only customer in the joint.

I am ok though. I managed to go back out and enjoy myself afterwards but it did raise a concern.

[Guitarrefreak]

Hey Guitarre,

Again, let me know if you want to do the Amnesia / HK / AB circuit this weekend. Sorry I didn't PM the first time but I couldn't because I don't have PM.Hey clam. I will be down in hk until 10 pm. Will pm you details

[Guitarrefreak]

Hey clam. I will be down in hk until 10 pm. Will pm you detailsLooks. Like. I cannot pm you too

[Sock111]

i'll be there on friday night too. have you picked a time / place already?

kegnot yet, toto said he'd give me a call friday night. i don't get off work til after 5, so definitely after that. always happy to show new peeps around. i love seeing the light in their eyes when they first enter the zona. its like watching a kid in a candy store.

[Guitarrefreak]

Hey guys. I'm planning to spend 2 nights down there this weekend but ticuan is a little pricey I think. Any other recommendations for more economical options?

[ClamSlammer]

Guitarre, stay at Ticuan 664-685-8078 or 800-788-0483. I'm here now #622. Walking distance to Amnesia. Get a hold of me.

[Zing Bang]

It has been some years since I have quit mongering. Just got the urge again last month.

Staying in Ticuan this weekend. Will post more details as and when they happen.

[ClamSlammer]

Guitarre,

My PM should work now.

[Joe Arturo]

I had a very strange experience last night. Yesterday was my birthday and one of the barkers at a strip club on revo and calle 4 (in front of the tourist hut across the street from peanuts. Upstairs) was begging me to buy a drink. Under normal circumstances I would never go into those places.

Anyways I ordered one beer and was on my way to HK 20 minutes later. Before I left I went into the bathroom to organize my money. When I was in the stall I heard two employees come in then suddenly I started smelling a very toxic chemical. It smelled more like clorox than anything else but it was not the usual smell of a floor being mopped. It was airborne and I believe deliberately sprayed into the stall I was in.

Immediately I sensed danger and I could feel myself getting faint and my heart racing. The shit burned my nose and entered my blood stream rather quickly. I rushed to get out of there and one of the employees bitched at me for not washing my hands. Under normal circumstances I would but I think he was trying to get me to stay longer. If I did I might not have made it out. Robbery? I was the only customer in the entire club and nobody would have missed me.

When I did make it out I felt my heart racing for around 2 hours afterwards and I can still taste some of the chemicals today. It was extremely potent.

This was definitely a huge wake up call. Is there a moral to the story? Yes. Be careful about going into clubs where you are the only customer in the joint.

I am ok though. I managed to go back out and enjoy myself afterwards but it did raise a concern.I think you got a wiff of some crystal meth being smoked by the employees. When I had my bar in Mexicali, crystal meth was always being smoked in the bathroom. Crystal Meth is probably one of the most adictive drugs out there nowadays.

[Joe Arturo]

Hey guys. I'm planning to spend 2 nights down there this weekend but ticuan is a little pricey I think. Any other recommendations for more economical options?Hey. I always stay at Hotel Hacienda De Santiago on the corner of Revo and Coauilla (across the street on Revo is the place where the gals renew their health cards). It is 325 pesos per night on week nights and 425 pesos per night on Friday and Saturday. Most of the rooms have kitchettes with stove and small refridgerator. On cold nights (like last night) I light the 4 burners for 10 or 15 minutes and the room gets nice and toasty. They are supposed to be installing wifi soon.

It is the newest hotel in the zona and I believe it is the best place for the price. Give it a try!

[Joe Arturo]

(TomJackin' and Joe Arturo. You guys can voice your disgust at me, but man, this girl has totally rob my senses).To start off, I don't understand how you can have more than one favorite.

And as to what happened, you might as well have stayed in the USA. You took a girl to dinner and didn't get laid. No reason to go to Mexico!

I just had a great time in Tijuana. Arrived Tuesday afternoon and was supposed to meet up with Guitarefreak, but he took a gal to dinner and didn't get laid instead. Tuesday afternoon I took a spinner upstairs at Chicago. Afterwards she said that Wednesday was her day off and wanted to spend some time with me in my hotel. I said fine and we set it up for 1:00 PM.

Tuesday night I went upstairs with a gal named Dakota at Hong Kong. Nice natural tits and a great lay, but no BBBJ so won't repeat. I made the mistake of not asking "Te haces sexo oral sin condon?" I usually ask this but in my hurry didn't this time.

Tuesday night in my hotel I received a message from one of my old standbys. She wanted to see me Wednesday night. We set a date for her to arrive at my hotel at 10:30 on Wednesday night.

Wednesday at 1:00 PM the spinner from Chicago arrived at my hotel and stayed until 5:00 PM. It was a great $100 investment. During this time, I received a message from another spinner which every time that I am with her, I swear that it is the best lay that I have ever had. She has been out of commission for a couple of months from an appendix operation. She said that she is finally back in commission and wanted to see me. We set a date for Thursday at my hotel at 1:00 PM.

Next, I took a well deserved nap. And at 10:30 my old standby showed up and stayed until 3:00 AM. An even better $100 investment.

Today (Thursday) arrived and the newly recovered appendix operatee showed up at 1:00 PM and stayed until 5:00 PM. Another great $100 investment.

I then got in my car and headed home. Only a 15 minute wait at the border crossing.

All and all not a bad few days for a 64 year old fart like me!!!!

Hey Guitarrefreak. I hope that you don't mind that I kid around with you!

[TomJackin]

Arrived Tuesday afternoon and was supposed to meet up with Guitarefreak, but he took a gal to dinner and didn't get laid instead.Hey Joe,

It was great to meet you a couple of weeks ago, no less doing shots of tequila with you and the youngsters.

I know that both of us tried to warn Guitarefreak of the,"What is really going on in Tijuana," but maybe someday he will awaken. But as long as he is having fun, who can argue with that? In life, we all have that thought that someone needs us for more than money and security. But after two long marriages, I know the fuck better!

Take care my new friend!

[Guitarrefreak]

Heheheheheh.

No sweat buddy, no sweat, great to hear you had a good time.

I hope to have a story like that for myself this weekend.


And as to what happened, you might as well have stayed in the USA. You took a girl to dinner and didn't get laid. No reason to go to Mexico!

[Guitarrefreak]

Kids these days just won't fucking learn!

Hehehe, I am glad I made friends here guys, really am, sorry you have to put up with my pussy whipped attitude, but I do appreciate the philosophy about as long as I am having fun, there is nothing to argue.

TomJ. I am heading down there tomorrow at the usual time, my turn to buy you a drink this time.

Peace.


Hey Joe,

It was great to meet you a couple of weeks ago, no less doing shots of tequila with you and the youngsters.

I know that both of us tried to warn Guitarefreak of the,"What is really going on in Tijuana," but maybe someday he will awaken. But as long as he is having fun, who can argue with that? In life, we all have that thought that someone needs us for more than money and security. But after two long marriages, I know the fuck better!

Take care my new friend!

[Dcell75]

Wednesday at 1:00 PM the spinner from Chicago arrived at my hotel and stayed until 5:00 PM. It was a great $100 investment.

Next, I took a well deserved nap. And at 10:30 my old standby showed up and stayed until 3:00 AM. An even better $100 investment.

Today (Thursday) arrived and the newly recovered appendix operatee showed up at 1:00 PM and stayed until 5:00 PM. Another great $100 investment.Man, you got some crazy skill! Much respect to you!

A couple of months ago I was trying to get a SG to spend the night with me but was asking for $250 US, I passed.

[Guitarrefreak]

Still no, why don't you go ahead to try and PM me.

Actually I thought you need to be a senior member to PM, but I may be wrong.

I will most likely settle down in ticuan, if I am bringing a chick back from las pulgas (my anticipated final destination before hotel) , I would probably want to stay close.


Guitarre,

My PM should work now.

[Joe Arturo]

Hey Joe,

It was great to meet you a couple of weeks ago, no less doing shots of tequila with you and the youngsters.

I know that both of us tried to warn Guitarefreak of the,"What is really going on in Tijuana," but maybe someday he will awaken. But as long as he is having fun, who can argue with that? In life, we all have that thought that someone needs us for more than money and security. But after two long marriages, I know the fuck better!

Take care my new friend!At times I get the stupid feeling that something more than sex can be found in the zonas of the border towns in Mexico. Then the nightmares of my two long gringa marriages and my really short Mexican marriage bring me back to reality. I am sad to admit that I was stupid enough to marry a gal that I met in a bar in Mexicali. We all live and learn but the reality is ONLY SEX CAN BE FOUND IN THE ZONE.

[Guitarrefreak]

The fact that I just got out from a concert tonight infused with weed and that I pounded several jack and coke excuses me from any sensibility.

1) what if no sex was conducted (like me on Tuesday)

2) what if sex was conducted OUTSIDE the zone (which happened once for me a while ago, but then, I fucked up the relationship with that girl)

3) what if sex was conducted without the transaction of money (which happened when this girl who worked temporarily in Hong Kong, now returned to Cancun) did. That girl eventually turned down a guy who was going to pay her 300 dlls / night for 5 nights to be with him, she said she couldn't spend time with him since she developed feelings for me, we still stay in touch.

Anyway, just really curious what the seasoned guys have to say about the above.


At times I get the stupid feeling that something more than sex can be found in the zonas of the border towns in Mexico. Then the nightmares of my two long gringa marriages and my really short Mexican marriage bring me back to reality. I am sad to admit that I was stupid enough to marry a gal that I met in a bar in Mexicali. We all live and learn but the reality is ONLY SEX CAN BE FOUND IN THE ZONE.

[ClamSlammer]

Still no, why don't you go ahead to try and PM me.

Actually I thought you need to be a senior member to PM, but I may be wrong.

I will most likely settle down in ticuan, if I am bringing a chick back from las pulgas (my anticipated final destination before hotel) , I would probably want to stay close.Just bought my membership a few hours ago. It's supposed to take up to 24 hours to process. Hopefully it will be activated sometime Fri. I will PM you once my account clears. Me and you, Guitarre, have some things in common with our exploits in Tijuana, I. E. Amnesia girl and HK girl OTC.

[SuperSteve]

GF.

Just the ramblings of an old man. I don't know if I am seasoned or not, but have been doing P4P for over forty years.

A few things to remember:

1. If their lips are moving they are lying.

2. Do not spend more than you can afford to lose.

3. The one that cares the most in a relationship loses.

From the words that you write you seem like a good guy. For you to actually believe that a lady could not spend 30 seconds to text you for a couple of weeks, is well. Young people all over the world spend hours a day texting. You don't really believe that she couldn't find a spare minute, in two weeks, to text you?

I recently had a favorita (which is very rare for me) at one of the local haunts. She saw me drinking in her bar with another lady. Her panties got all in a bunch. She came over to the table (the other lady was gone) , and I said let's go arriba. She said no, and went up with my amigo instead. He asked if I cared, and I assured him I did not, it was her job. Her intent was to show me, and probably cause friction between my amigo and me. She also phucked my amigo like a champ (he later called it a grudge phuck) , which is out of the ordinary for her. It could just be me, but the first few sessions with her were not like he described, nor what other amigo's have told me. Little did she understand that first, and foremost, in this game it is bro's before ho's. Also what she did was kill the goose that laid the golden egg. I am in town 2-3 times a month, and would session with her, and buy her fichas. I'm sure there has been many to take my place though. I still feel that she is a good person and I hope that she can be civil to me when I see her. What she did opened me up to NEXT! I really don't understand why a lady 1/2 my age, or more, would get jealous about this fat, old fart. Apparently she cared more than I, so at least for the short term, she loses.

Last week I had three ladies, in the same bar, trying very hard to get me to go arriba. Two I had been with previously, and a new one with potential to put in the rotation. One of the ladies I had been with got real snippy with me about her playing NASCAR with me in the seat. I told her that she had better lose the attitude if she ever wanted to go arriba with me again. She immediately changed her attitude, went back to smiles, and being pleasant. Do not even for a second let these women feel that they can control you, you will lose any respect they may have had for you. If you choose to let them have control, you may as well stay in Gringaland.

One of my favorite songs is by Rod Piazza & The Mighty Flyers is called "Tough & Tender". In it he says that is a way to a young girls heart. IMO, it is very true. Women want a man who can be in control (tough) , but a certain moments when they feel the need, to be tender to them. It confuses the hell out of them, but they love it.

All of this is just IMHO, which isn't even worth dos pesos. Do it your way, but if you are not happy, and thinking thoughts that serve you well, change those thoughts immediately. Life is too short to be thinking negatively, especially when most of my negative thoughts never came to be true anyway.

Health & happiness

[Artisttyp]

I think you got a wiff of some crystal meth being smoked by the employees. When I had my bar in Mexicali, crystal meth was always being smoked in the bathroom. Crystal Meth is probably one of the most adictive drugs out there nowadays.No not meth. I've been around it before. This came out of a spray bottle. I heard the spray sound almost in my ear now that I think of it.

[Guitarrefreak]

Thanks for the tips SS.

I agree with you on all counts, and I guess time will prove to me what a fuckin idiot I am.

At least for now, I can't wait for night to kick in and for me to head down, will see what happens.

Side comment about your story, I guess for me, if "my" chick decides to give attention to my guy friend out of spite, then she and I are pretty much over, previously at amnesia, I had this girl twice overnight, but one time she caught me staring at my favorita and she got mad and started making out with a guy friend and took him to get a lap dance.

Only difference is that, my guy friend did not ask me if it was cool, but then, he is a dumb fuck anyways.


GF.

Just the ramblings of an old man. I don't know if I am seasoned or not, but have been doing P4P for over forty years.

A few things to remember:

1. If their lips are moving they are lying.

2. Do not spend more than you can afford to lose.

3. The one that cares the most in a relationship loses.

From the words that you write you seem like a good guy. For you to actually believe that a lady could not spend 30 seconds to text you for a couple of weeks, is well. Young people all over the world spend hours a day texting. You don't really believe that she couldn't find a spare minute, in two weeks, to text you?

I recently had a favorita (which is very rare for me) at one of the local haunts. She saw me drinking in her bar with another lady. Her panties got all in a bunch. She came over to the table (the other lady was gone) , and I said let's go arriba. She said no, and went up with my amigo instead. He asked if I cared, and I assured him I did not, it was her job. Her intent was to show me, and probably cause friction between my amigo and me. She also phucked my amigo like a champ (he later called it a grudge phuck) , which is out of the ordinary for her. It could just be me, but the first few sessions with her were not like he described, nor what other amigo's have told me. Little did she understand that first, and foremost, in this game it is bro's before ho's. Also what she did was kill the goose that laid the golden egg. I am in town 2-3 times a month, and would session with her, and buy her fichas. I'm sure there has been many to take my place though. I still feel that she is a good person and I hope that she can be civil to me when I see her. What she did opened me up to NEXT! I really don't understand why a lady 1/2 my age, or more, would get jealous about this fat, old fart. Apparently she cared more than I, so at least for the short term, she loses.

Last week I had three ladies, in the same bar, trying very hard to get me to go arriba. Two I had been with previously, and a new one with potential to put in the rotation. One of the ladies I had been with got real snippy with me about her playing NASCAR with me in the seat. I told her that she had better lose the attitude if she ever wanted to go arriba with me again. She immediately changed her attitude, went back to smiles, and being pleasant. Do not even for a second let these women feel that they can control you, you will lose any respect they may have had for you. If you choose to let them have control, you may as well stay in Gringaland.

One of my favorite songs is by Rod Piazza & The Mighty Flyers is called "Tough & Tender". In it he says that is a way to a young girls heart. IMO, it is very true. Women want a man who can be in control (tough) , but a certain moments when they feel the need, to be tender to them. It confuses the hell out of them, but they love it.

All of this is just IMHO, which isn't even worth dos pesos. Do it your way, but if you are not happy, and thinking thoughts that serve you well, change those thoughts immediately. Life is too short to be thinking negatively, especially when most of my negative thoughts never came to be true anyway.

Health & happiness

[Keg]

not yet, toto said he'd give me a call friday night. i don't get off work til after 5, so definitely after that. always happy to show new peeps around. i love seeing the light in their eyes when they first enter the zona. its like watching a kid in a candy store.friday i'll be going to ab early to see a chica, and then i can meet up for beers with you guys later. i usually go back and forth at hk or ab, i'll be wearing a green and white stripe pattern shirt and green pants, so give me a shout if i walk past you all.

cheers,

keg

[Joe Arturo]

The fact that I just got out from a concert tonight infused with weed and that I pounded several jack and coke excuses me from any sensibility.

1) what if no sex was conducted (like me on Tuesday)

2) what if sex was conducted OUTSIDE the zone (which happened once for me a while ago, but then, I fucked up the relationship with that girl)

3) what if sex was conducted without the transaction of money (which happened when this girl who worked temporarily in Hong Kong, now returned to Cancun) did. That girl eventually turned down a guy who was going to pay her 300 dlls / night for 5 nights to be with him, she said she couldn't spend time with him since she developed feelings for me, we still stay in touch.

Anyway, just really curious what the seasoned guys have to say about the above.In both Mexicali and Tijuana I have had my dates with the bar girls, have had sex with them outside the zone (in their houses) and had my freebies. But once the gal "thinks" that you love her, she starts talking about needing a car or a boob job or she needs money for her mother's operation (the mother is always somewhere else in Mexico and the gal will wire her the money). Thats when you jump back into reality and instead of a $60 or $100 service, that freebie (if you fall for it) can cost you several thousand dollars. And if you have really fallen for her, you now have a broken heart.

When I had my bar in Mexicali, I used to hear the gals chit chating about this. Don't be fooled....it is only a business for them.

Take advantage of and enjoy the freebies, but don't start caring a lot about the gal. They only want to separate you from your money. And nothing else! Enough said?

[GlobalRampage]

Hey. I always stay at Hotel Hacienda De Santiago on the corner of Revo and Coauilla (across the street on Revo is the place where the gals renew their health cards). It is 325 pesos per night on week nights and 425 pesos per night on Friday and Saturday. Most of the rooms have kitchettes with stove and small refridgerator. On cold nights (like last night) I light the 4 burners for 10 or 15 minutes and the room gets nice and toasty. They are supposed to be installing wifi soon.

It is the newest hotel in the zona and I believe it is the best place for the price. Give it a try!Actually, with the exchange rate's recent fluctuation, the best value by far is booking a room at Ticuan online for 650 pesos. The USD-Peso has gone from 11:1 to 13. 8:1 but the rates in Pesos are the same. Meaning the room at Ticuan is 48$/night. I've used to stay at HDS before finding Ticuan (thanks to the users on this forum)

[Duke Of Pussy]

No not meth. I've been around it before. This came out of a spray bottle. I heard the spray sound almost in my ear now that I think of it.As I like to visit the clubs outside the zona from time to time, your report is concerning to me. So your gut feeling is they were after you? I can't figure out what substance it could be that is cost-effective to spray it from a bottle and work quickly. They weren't affected by it also being close to you?

[Joe Arturo]

Actually, with the exchange rate's recent fluctuation, the best value by far is booking a room at Ticuan online for 650 pesos. The USD-Peso has gone from 11:1 to 13. 8:1 but the rates in Pesos are the same. Meaning the room at Ticuan is 48$/night. I've used to stay at HDS before finding Ticuan (thanks to the users on this forum)I am really having a difficult time trying to understand how 650 pesos is a better value than 325 pesos?

[QuackUp]

I went to Tijuana this past Wednesday and did the usual rounds of h / k, a / b, t / b, l / b, and c / c. I had fun in all the clubs but wanted to try something different so I toftt and went to a bar called Cristian bar. It is located halfway up the hill on Ninos Heroes.

The sign on the outside made the bar seem bigger than what it was. I went inside to see a small bar, small stage and small table area.

As I walk in a masero hits me up right away for a drink. I tell him I want to take a look first. I notice there were about 5 customers in the place. There was a strip show going on but the girl on stage was pretty heavy.

I take a quick lap and most of the chicas here are on the heavy side, so I'am about to walk out when a guy with a regular shirt on, comes up to me and speaks to me in perfect English. His name was Raul and says there are more girls that would blow my mind.

I told him I doubt it and he gives me this lecture that he wants my repeat business so he doesn't want to screw me. He tells me to sit, have a drink and he will bring me my dream girl. I'am thinking, yea, right! But what the heck, I had nothing to lose but my time.

So I got a drink, which cost $3. 00, better than the other clubs. They also have two for one beers but I only had a water. So after about 4 minutes, he brings a chica over to my table. She is alright looking but not a stunner and she to is on the heavier side.

I figured this was a locals bar since most of the chicas were on the big side. If you are looking for a flauca, don't come here. Knowing Spanish is a plus since the few chicas I spoke with, said they didn't know English.

So Raul ask me what kind of girls I like. I told him tall and thin, just to see if he could make it happen. I wasn't expecting him to, and just like I thought, he couldn't produce. I'am thinking, this place really isn't a rip off joint, but more of a locals bar. At least I know what it's like inside and I will probably not return.

I was thinking that until I started to walk out. I see a very pretty girl at the doorway. She smiles at me, I smile back and ask her if she would like a drink.

I can tell she is on the bigger side, not much, but definetly not thin. The lady drinks here are $7. 00 USD. She ordered a beer and good news, she didn't drink it in one gulp. I wanted badly to take this chica to the hotel but here is where thing are very different.

Raul had gone home by now but there is a waitress who speaks perfect English so I asked her how things worked. She said there is no hotel, but they have 3 VIP rooms that you can rent for $20. 00 USD 45 minutes.

Since that is all they have, I said okay. The VIP room are not like the ones in h / k or l / see. The VIP rooms here are very small and basically have a couch in there. Almost like being in a large closet, plus it was very hot in there. Well, we made the best of it.

I pay the waitress the $20. 00 she leaves and comes back in a couple of minutes and I'am thinking, here comes the hard sell to buy drinks or something else. Actually, she came back to give the chica a condom. There was also a full box of kleenex in the room.

Well, if nothing else, I think I picked the right chica for my last of the night. For the first 20 minutes in the room, all we did was make out like high-schoolers and petted like crazy. The make out session was almost as good as the make out session in the termas in Brazil, and since we had 45 minutes instead of the 30 minutes at the hotel, we could take our time.

Even though it was tight, both the chica and the room, we did the deed with no problem. The only bad thing was not being able to shower after. I guess it's was like some of the hotels with the street girls. At least there was plenty of tissues and fortunately, I had some indvidual wet ones to clean up with. I guess another plus would be no tipping the cum boys. When I think about it though, the $1. 00 is worth it. At least the room looked clean when we first went in.

By the way, I thought h / k was hot, after being in that closet, it was worse. After we were done, I just wore my t-shirt even outside, and it was a chilly night that night.

I had such a good time with the chica I asked her for her phone number but she said she didn't have cellular. Doesn't it always seem that way. I told her I would be back in a couple of weeks so hopefully we can hook up again. She did mention to me that this was her first night working there. I told her that was okay since this was my first time in this bar.

She is only 20 years old and looks younger. She does have a little pouch in the mid section but still looks good. She kisses with the best of them. Not sure what days she works but she would be the only reason for me to go back to that bar. Again, if you like heavier chicas, this place will be right up your alley.

Before I forget, I paid her $500mx and some candy. If you do decide to visit this bar, make sure you take some handy wipes with you. LOL.

Last add: Got to the border around 21:40 and because there weren't many lines open, the lines started about where the door to let the bus traffic in. I'am guessing the wait time was about 20 minutes. Fortunatly, the sentri line was still open and I went right through.

[Atticusct]

I'm finally going to Tijuana after a year of promising I'll go. Can I pay cash (pesos) and put a CC on file? Also, I was thinking about using sexytj (. Com_) to invite a girl or two up. Has anyone had a positive experience with them? How's Ticuan with pulling girls in like that?

[TomJackin]

I'm finally going to Tijuana after a year of promising I'll go. Can I pay cash (pesos) and put a CC on file? Also, I was thinking about using sexytj (. Com_) to invite a girl or two up. Has anyone had a positive experience with them? How's Ticuan with pulling girls in like that?Yes, you can pay cash at the hotel, but if you pay in advance on-line, you can save about 7 to 9 bucks per night. Make sure you bring your printed out receipt to show that payment was paid in full.

I can't comment on any agency, never used one there. But I have brought women to the room, with no problems. But I made sure to check the box for (2) adults when I made the reservation.

[Rahodeb]

Guys,

I was told Banco Santander does not charge fees for B of America customers? Does anyone know where that is in the Zona area? Otherwise, what is the best way to convert $ to pesos in the zona area.

Also, is it best to pay for drinks with $ and the chica with pesos? Its hard to figure out if the meseros are giving you the right change when you pay with pesos.

[Guitarrefreak]

Typing up this report here while the stuff is still fresh in mind.

Had a chance to hang out w / Clam@HK and Amnesia on Friday night but missed on Saturday (hope you had a good time yourself buddy).

Missed Flapjack via phone and text since I was travelling between places and was talking business with people (someday we will meet up man)

Missed TomJackin' by maybe 20 mins@HK.

In total, dropped about 1G (fuck!) this weekend but I will break it down shortly.

For the sex to payment ratio, this was totally not worth it, but read my report and tell me if this is turning out to be an interesting story anyways that money cannot buy.

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So remember this new chick I met in HK last Friday who said she wanted to hang out with me after work@Las Pulgas this Friday?

Well, on Friday when I finally headed down, I called her and she said she left work because she was sick. She was sneezing and sounded she had a watery nose (and I don't think you can fake that) , so I thought, what the fuck, I will give her the benefit of the doubt and asked her to get a good sleep and we will hang wherever. She thanked me and that was it.

I headed to Ticuan and met up with Clam. I shall say that considering the proximity of where I live to Tijuana, it does not make any economical sense for me to plan to stay in Ticuan. I don't think it impresses the chick (actually only serves to give them a false sense of how deep your pocket is) and it takes away the flexibility of spontaneously taking a chick back to a nearby motel when the moment hits (wherever and whenever that is). I will be taking Joe's advice for the next time. Damage for hotel is about 120 dlls for 2 nights.

Clam and I headed to HK and chilled there for a good 2 hours. Nothing really that caught my attention. This girl Selena who works there still remembers me because I vamos arriba once with her. Well, she is nothing much to look at but I was acting as wingman for my buddy that one time so I TOFTT and now she jumps on me everytime I am there. A bit of a buzz kill. I was still a little hung up about getting flaked and I was not sure if my Amnesia favorita was confirmed working that night, so feeling a little blue, I ventured to the back alley to look for my regular there. She is tall, nice body, always with her arms tucked beneath her chest and her ass nice and perky. She always smiles when I walk pass her because I make an effort to clown around with her a little and give her a quick shoulder rub if she was cold. She always ask how my heart is feeling because I tell her mi corazon roto all the time. Anyway, we never negotiate now, it is always 40 dlls for fucky / sucky sin ropa and I see that she is giving in a little more, she let's my face come in contact with hers, she moves her hips when I pound her, and she lets off a little moan every once in a while. Not a world class fuck, but always guaranteed something.

So the tab right now is. 5 dlls + 5 dlls (parking and cab) + 120 dlls + 40 dlls + 10 dlls (misc) = 180 dlls.

At one point, Clam and I decided it was time to cut the fuck out to Amnesia which we did. Scarface Victor (the door man) is always there to help and for a 5 dll cover, he hooks me up with 2 strong drinks of whatever I want (typically Jack and Coke and a beer). Waltzed in there and chilled. At one point, my main mesero guided my favorita to me and she is as pretty as ever, jumping, yelling and kissing me. I asked her why she is working at Amnesia again after saying HK and she gave some vague reason that I don't quite recall but said that rent was due (she was 200 dlls short) , so she has to work. Her first drink was a double (20 dlls) and I figured that I may as well get it off my chest by telling her that I don't like the money to go to the house, but yo todo entiende ella necessita trabajo, but take it easy with the drinks and I will make it up to her. She took it like a champ, gave me her wide eyed look and say she todo entiende. That night, she took her drink really slow, and ordered only the 10 dll fichas. At one point, she hit the stage to dance and I have always wanted the opportunity to tip her a 20 dll (first and last time though) because her dance is that fucking awesome. She gave me a kiss and hug when I did that. Other guys tried to grope her when they tip her, but she barely even lets them touch her ass. (I know I am not special but for fuck's sake, let me finish my story.). After her dance was done, I was going to guide her back to our couch, but she decided she wanted to hop on my back and have me carry her back to our spot. She marked her territory. I marked mine. Fast forward a few hours, she started dancing again and I went to the side to watch her (tipped 1 dlls this time.) and when she was done, I escorted her back to our spot. By that time Clam has left to create his own stories.

At 4:30am, she asked me to back first and she will meet with me at the lobby of Ticuan at 5am. At 5:05am, I was getting a little anxious so I stepped out to the roadside and saw her petite frame carrying a back crossing the street and running to me. We went upstairs. I gave her a FBSM, no happy ending, and she fell asleep. I really wanted that to happen, because on Tuesday night, we talked about this and she said she was looking forward for it to happen.

Side note: I am nuts about this girl, but I am not in love with her. Actually she and I had a discussion. We mutually agreed (not explicitly) that our relationship is built upon some monetary exchange, but that we don't dwell on the dll amount and that it is never discussed anymore. We agreed that when we spend our time together, we are genuinely happy. You know those BS looks that girls give you when they are BSing you? Well, think the opposite of that and that's how this girl behaves when she is with me. I am sure she is definitely a fucking good actress, and I have it pounded in me already (thanks Tom / Joe) but at least she is taking the trouble to fake it. She gives me no drama about her problems in life. We always just talk about what is happening, her life back home, now, school, she ask me about my plans, what I am doing, etc.

Anyway, in the morning, we got woken up by the construction happening on Revolution, which is annoying, but the entire night, she cuddled with me. She woke up saying she was hungry and wanted to eat first but apparently kitchen was not open yet so we proceeded to the sexo. After the condoms arrived we got it going. Now, I have had much better sex before (in all capacity) , she is by no means the best, but it just felt good, and she tried to make things work for me. Of course, it didn't help that I blew my load a few hours ago with the SW and that I only slept for 2 horas, but anyway, eventually mission accomplished.

She was in a rush to go back home because a cat was scheduled to be neutered and she lost track of time and we rushed through breakfast. Now, she and I have eaten together many times and I know when she is really in a rush to leave or not. As upset as I was she had to leave, this is one of those unpredictable Latina life style that just drives us hombres nuts. Still, she did try to make things easier but not being bitchy about it. And we headed to the ATM to withdraw the cash that I was going to give her. ATM fucked around with me but eventually I gave her like 1700 pesos (recall that she say she was 200 dlls short in rent and 1700 pesos is only about 136 dlls. Yes I had to pay her, but the fact that she did not at all haggle about it to me is a positive sign. We never haggle). I gave her a extra 20 dlls which she smiled and say "good for taxi". We headed back and she hopped on a cab and was blowing kisses and even when the cab took off, she turned around to stay in eye contact.

Reality: the above few paragraphs have been pussy talk, but I am not one to shy away from trash talking by folks here so please do. At the same time, I am writing my report damnit, so you guys can either read it or fuck off. But seriously, say something. I like discussion.

Note: we did not exchange texts anymore but she did say she might work that night. I told her to text me if she did.

Tab so far: 180 dlls (previous) + 10 dlls (cover for me and Clam) + 50 dlls (for all fichas) + 20 dlls (big tip) + 10 dlls (misc tips) + 140 dlls ("donation) + 20 dlls (cab for her) = 430 dlls.

Then I texted this HK girl to ask her how she was doing and fucking hell she said she was working! I was thinking, what the fuck is wrong with this woman, flaking on a date she initiated citing her being enfermo, and then telling me she is working. Ok, she said that she had to work Saturday because she didn't make her money on Friday. But she wanted to see me (yea) but anyway, I needed some company so I headed down to HK. Saw her, looking fine, bought her a few drinks and looking at the really thin crowd. Long story short is, originally she planned to cut out of work by 8pm and say she can meet with me at 9pm. But at some point, maybe she feel like she was making money from drinking with me quickly enough (and I tried to explain to her the economics behind it. But I failed miserably) and she said she might have to work until 10pm or 11pm when there is a bigger crowd. Basically I negged her by saying,"well, you will need to fuck a lot of guys to get your quota for today". She took it like a champ. Anyway, I had to go to Plaza Rio for a meeting so our final exchange was, maybe tonight we will or will not meet, but when she gets off work, to send me a text anyway just to see how things go. Drinks with her probably added to about 100 dlls.

During this period, met with this girl whom a mutual friend and I are acquainted to, bought her a few drinks, and had a chance to learn of her true color, trying to damage the relationship I have with my homie. I guess bros before hos don't quite resonate with these girls.

I headed to Plaza Rio at 7pm, met with this guy who is the boyfriend of one of the dancers we mutually knew, talked some business, ate some food, then we cut to Amnesia about 10pm.

Accelerate this part: we started playing pool, this hot thing called Alice has this thing going on for my guy friend (she is smoking hot, but obviously gold digger) , he cannot touch her because he has girls there watching out for their dancer friend who loves him. Complicated story. Anyway, I was just hanging with them, and his female friends were drinking with us. At 11pm, I texted HK girl and she said she was in VIP room. That was the last message I got her from her this trip. Next time, I will just be banging her and dropping her like the working girl she is. I am done with that girl. Especially because my weekend plan this time was revolved around her, and she was told about it.

Towards the end of the evening, this guy got into a quarrel with his girlfriend and they took off, leaving me with a tab of about 360 dlls. Awkward situation, it is a lot of money and I took care of it. He promises to pay me back but we will see. Besides, I did enjoy the time that I was hanging out with his group and we learned that we had mutual friends in Amnesia. We will see if this 360 dlls becomes a lesson learnt, or it is just a temporary hiccup which presented an opportunity to be more well connected with that group.

Now, while I was there in Amnesia, a girl I have never seen before walked up to me and she introduced herself as my favorita's friend. The name checks because my favorita is always saying her name and they live together. This friend told me that my favorita didn't come to work today because she wasn't feeling well due to a migraine. My favorita, long time ago, has told me that she is plagued with migraine. And it makes sense that the she was late, left in a hurry to her cats operation, being all nervous, is easy for a migraine to kick in.

Reality check: this all sounds like a perfect picture for a major BS story, and for all I know, it maybe is. I guess she deserves some credit to put all this together. But a point to take note of is, we never promised to meet up, did not promise to make plans together, and she didn't know that I was going to be in Amnesia. Whatever happened, her friend came up to me to initiate telling me about this and we will leave it as that.

Tab so far: 430 dlls + 100 dlls (wasted drinks) + 360 dlls (tab) + 100 dlls (miscellaneous crap) = 990 dlls.

I have just returned to SD today, and will wait for the guy to call me up to continue our business discussion (as planned last night) and for him to pay back his tab (as expected). I don't expect any of the girls to get in touch with me today, and honestly, I am kind of burnt after this weekend.

I am looking for people to just shoot the shit with, to relax, and to laugh and joke about the stories, as I prepare to be out of commission for 3 weeks due to international travel.

Health and peace.

Final tab: 990 dlls + 5 dlls (cab) + 25 dlls (parking) = 1020 dlls out of my pocket as of right now.

If you enjoyed my post this time (doesn't mean you need to sympathize) , then you owe me a drink.

[Artisttyp]

As I like to visit the clubs outside the zona from time to time, your report is concerning to me. So your gut feeling is they were after you? I can't figure out what substance it could be that is cost-effective to spray it from a bottle and work quickly. They weren't affected by it also being close to you?No need to be that concerned. Just be on guard if you are the only customer in the place. I have been that one guy in the place a number of times in a number of different countries. It never dawned on me that it could dangerous. Doh!

As I mentioned earlier the spray was loud and very close. I was busy counting my money when it happened.

They sprayed it into my closed stall. Away from their faces.

[Sgt Perv]

As I like to visit the clubs outside the zona from time to time, your report is concerning to me. So your gut feeling is they were after you? I can't figure out what substance it could be that is cost-effective to spray it from a bottle and work quickly. They weren't affected by it also being close to you?Ether would fit the bill but I am assuming (with I shouldn't) everyone knows what that smells like. It is cheap easy to get and would knock you out.

[Phordphan]

I am really having a difficult time trying to understand how 650 pesos is a better value than 325 pesos?He said "best value" not "cheapest price"

The Ticuan, at $48 / sencillo is by far the bes value. Beats the hell out of the HDS, and any other hotel on Revu. And they've been providing mighty stiff competition for the hotels in the vicinity.

I see the Pueblo Amigo has dropped their prices quite a bit. Probably in response to the dual whammy of the recession and the Ticuan. Don't know, just MHO.

[Artisttyp]

He said "best value" not "cheapest price"

The Ticuan, at $48 / sencillo is by far the bes value. Beats the hell out of the HDS, and any other hotel on Revu. And they've been providing mighty stiff competition for the hotels in the vicinity.

I see the Pueblo Amigo has dropped their prices quite a bit. Probably in response to the dual whammy of the recession and the Ticuan. Don't know, just MHO.Just make sure you understand that there is a HUGE parking complex being built next door. You couldn't get me to stay there for free unless it was an inside room facing the courtyard. Even then I would need to test the waters for 1 night to see how noisy it is.

This parking complex is a beast.

[Dickhead]

Joe Arturo: Value equals quality divided by price, or V = Q / P. Price is objective but quality is subjective so value will always be subjective and neither quality nor value can be as precisely defined as is price. But we know quality when we see it, whether it is chicas or tonight's well-played World Series game in contrast to the sloppy ball game last night.

So a blow job that is four times as good as one that costs half as much is twice the value. Now if you don't have the money for the blow job that costs twice as much that's a bummer. You could get half as many blow jobs, or you could try to double your income, or you could jack off which is still free although probably against the law in the US, somehow. Or, you could console yourself with the thought that the average married guy probably gets 5 or 10 blow jobs a year. I would be interested in seeing some statistics on how many blow jobs per year the average married guy in the US gets. I'd like to compare that to how many blow jobs the average guy in other countries gets per year.

[Guitarrefreak]

Made the mistake of settling for a room facing revolution, fucking woke me and my chica up prematurely on Saturday morning.


Just make sure you understand that there is a HUGE parking complex being built next door. You couldn't get me to stay there for free unless it was an inside room facing the courtyard. Even then I would need to test the waters for 1 night to see how noisy it is.

This parking complex is a beast.

[Daytonamonger]

Guitar,

I enjoy reading of your exploits in Tijuana. I think you have a good thing going for yourself and I never try to tell a guy how to spend his money. But I will say this. For 1K you banged some chicas, made some new friends and hung out with old ones, and IMHO had a blast. Hopefully to you it was worth it. I'm hardly ever in the zona since I'm an east coaster but I'd deff buy you a drink for a little company if I was in town.

[Phordphan]

Just make sure you understand that there is a HUGE parking complex being built next door. You couldn't get me to stay there for free unless it was an inside room facing the courtyard. Even then I would need to test the waters for 1 night to see how noisy it is.

This parking complex is a beast.Depends on the day, I suppose. I was there on Saturday night, and didn't hear a sound.

Maybe the construction workers don't work on Sunday?

[Duke Of Pussy]

Ether would fit the bill but I am assuming (with I shouldn't) everyone knows what that smells like. It is cheap easy to get and would knock you out.It would be hard to knock out someone with ether and a spray bottle. But then again maybe they didn't know that and is why he got away.

[Joe Arturo]

Joe Arturo: Value equals quality divided by price, or V = Q / P. Price is objective but quality is subjective so value will always be subjective and neither quality nor value can be as precisely defined as is price. But we know quality when we see it, whether it is chicas or tonight's well-played World Series game in contrast to the sloppy ball game last night.

So a blow job that is four times as good as one that costs half as much is twice the value. Now if you don't have the money for the blow job that costs twice as much that's a bummer. You could get half as many blow jobs, or you could try to double your income, or you could jack off which is still free although probably against the law in the US, somehow. Or, you could console yourself with the thought that the average married guy probably gets 5 or 10 blow jobs a year. I would be interested in seeing some statistics on how many blow jobs per year the average married guy in the US gets. I'd like to compare that to how many blow jobs the average guy in other countries gets per year.I agree 100% with you but the Ticuan is not anywhere near twice as nice as the Santiago and if you factor in all of the taxi fares to and from the zona the Ticuan value goes down even more.

[MikeyMae]

I agree 100% with you but the Ticuan is not anywhere near twice as nice as the Santiago and if you factor in all of the taxi fares to and from the zona the Ticuan value goes down even more.Respectfully, I think the Ticuan is PRECISELY twice as nice as the HDS since it's only a couple of years old and it would qualify as a three star hotel in the States. I like the HDS because of the location and the mini fridge but for comfort they're worlds apart.

[Phordphan]

I agree 100% with you but the Ticuan is not anywhere near twice as nice as the Santiago and if you factor in all of the taxi fares to and from the zona the Ticuan value goes down even more.How many trips do you make between the zona and your room?

I just walk. It's not far, it's good exercise, and Revu is no longer the dark, deserted, scary-ass place is was a couple of years back. Folks are milling around until at least 3:00am on the weekends.

[Daytonamonger]

Call me cheap but I also just walked from Ticuan when I stayed there. I agree that it is a bit of a walk but Ticuan I think would qualify as at least a 4 star hotel in the states. I don't stay there often as I'm usually at Hotel Espana. It's a bit cheaper and 4 blocks closer to the zone.

[Guitarrefreak]

This new guy I have befriended showed me some awesome pictures of motels outsize the zona going for 40 dlls / night with plasma TVs and indoor jacuzzi.

I think I will start taking my favoritas (ok I will try) to those places and pimp on them there (ok maybe just let them sleep there)

Now I just need to find a more cost effective way to travel outside the zona

I am going to be MIA for a few weeks on international travel, you may see me post a little on the China forum but I will be checking in here once in a while.

Peace

[Don Smith 10]

This new guy I have befriended showed me some awesome pictures of motels outsize the zona going for 40 dlls / night with plasma TVs and indoor jacuzzi.

I think I will start taking my favoritas (ok I will try) to those places and pimp on them there (ok maybe just let them sleep there)

Now I just need to find a more cost effective way to travel outside the zona

I am going to be MIA for a few weeks on international travel, you may see me post a little on the China forum but I will be checking in here once in a while.

PeaceWhere is this nice new hotel? Name, location, phone number or web site address? Thank you. BTW have a good time in China. Just be careful your kidney. Hahaha