General Reports

[Sunset Strip]

Here is a video shot in Tijuana of Viagra soup.

http://braziltravelcenter.wordpress.com/2012/03/24/mexican-viagra-soup-in-baja-california/

Rather than buy those expensive pills perhaps we should try this soup. Viagra soup from Tijuana.

I had it and remember it being effective but this was years ago.

[TomJackin]

It has been a couple of weeks since I traveled south so I was getting a tad antsy, so I drove extra fast. After running across the pedestrian bridge, knocking people over all along the way, I could soon hear the clanking of the first turnstile. Unlike Pavlov's dogs, that salivated when they heard bells, I start salivating when I hear that wonderful clanking sound.

I came through the alley entrance of HK and either HK was darker, or my old eyes were failing me once again. So I just sat on the first barstool on the left so my vision could catch up with the rest of me. I had this cutie walk up to me in regular clothes and said Hello. I looked and wondered if I knew her or not, and then I realized she was my favorite gal in the entire club. Hell, I did not recognize her because she wasn't half naked! She said she was sick and was going home early. I touched her forehead and the girl was burning up. No kiss goodbye today!

After hanging out for a while, I had to get off my lazy ass because I was meeting my friends, and then later, my other favorite for dinner. I decided I had some time to spare, so I wanted to check out the street action. Out the back of HK, made a right and then a left at the corner and headed up the hill. The more I walked, the rougher the girls looked. But no worries, I was trained by the "Street Girl Master" Artisttyp. I knew what to expect and had no illusions that my dream girl would be waiting for me on this route I was taking. I made another left and was headed towards the arch. Half way down the block, I heard,"Hola, let's go."

This plus size gal seemed nice, so I stopped and chatted. She said she was from Columbia and informed me about her "Blue Light" special. I could have every hole for a mere 10 bucks, and no time limit, and 5 for the luxurious room. I said,"Are you serious? Why are we still standing here? Lead me the way to ecstasy!" She did not ask for any money upfront and was a great team player. I was having trouble getting off, in all probability because the light was on. She offered assistance, she said,"Try my ass." BINGO! I took a few pictures, and yes, I will share at least one of that disconfigured shaped ass. Make sure that your stomach is settled before viewing though; just a warning.

Fast forward to after dinner, I dropped off my favorite at her club and headed back to HK. Lately, I've been bringing my camera to Tijuana and I'm getting a bit bolder in HK with it. After I got a booth, my night time HK favorite spotted me and made a beeline to my table. Shortly thereafter, booth follies began. Camera was out and was clicking away. Then she pointed out one of her friends, whom I've never met. Hell, let's bring her over too! Her friend was about to sit across for us, and I said,"Hell no, I will be in the middle of this sandwich, get over here!" Her friend turned out to be very camera-friendly as well. Oh, and I love the shoe bank; picture will explain.

BTW SS, thanks for the tip on the soup!

[Kman1]

I envy you Tom. Wish I lived around there. The pics are mmm. Yummy!


It has been a couple of weeks since I traveled south so I was getting a tad antsy, so I drove extra fast. After running across the pedestrian bridge, knocking people over all along the way, I could soon hear the clanking of the first turnstile. Unlike Pavlov's dogs, that salivated when they heard bells, I start salivating when I hear that wonderful clanking sound.

[Shemp]

Anybody know what the Tijuana scene is like over the Easter weekend? I know in Colombia.

& Costa Rica it sucks as most of the girls are off with family or at the beach. Was.

Wondering if anybody had been in the Zona at this time in a previous year. Will it.

Be dead or business as usual?

[DavezPlace]

I had a bit of down time, so I came down on Wednesday and spent the night with a favorita.

FWIW, the UETA lot is $10 for 24 hours, during the week. Parking at the Beyer or Iris trolley stop is easier, and free, but I don't really like leaving my car completely unsecured overnight. Has anybody had any experience with this, good or bad? .Used to live a few blocks north of the Beyer trolley stop. Wouldn't recommend parking overnight there, as cars left in the lot are a target for thieves. However, Avenida de la Cruz runs north up the hill across the street from the lot. Street is lined with parked cars every night, and didn't hear of a single break-in during the two years I lived there.

[Hargow20]

I asked some girls in HK for a BJ only, But they would only do it for $10 less $50. This still seemed a bit high so decided to pass. The only good thing is that they were not asking $80 min.

[Bruner85]

Curly hair most of time, dress in black, works at AB.

[Kooloo23]

Hey all,

I'm going to take the plunge this Sept. For my birthday. It'll be the first time in Tijuana and first time outside the US. I've done some reading on the reports here and wanted to ask a few quick questions.

1. What is a good hotel to stay at in Tijuana? How much will it cost per night? I'll be arriving in San Diego but going to spend the nights in Tijuana. Looking for something in the middle of the action where I can take the girls back.

2. Exchange USD to Pesos in Tijuana or in the US? I'm not sure if I should carry mostly USD to Tijuana then work it out from there or do it beforehand if the exchange rate is worse there (like using an ATM in the strip club).

Any help is appreciated. If anyone is also going to be there around that time, let me know!

Thanks

[Kooloo23]

Hey all,

I'm going to take the plunge this Sept. For my birthday. It'll be the first time in Tijuana and first time outside the US. I've done some reading on the reports here and wanted to ask a few quick questions.

1. What is a good hotel to stay at in Tijuana? How much will it cost per night? I'll be arriving in San Diego but going to spend the nights in Tijuana. Looking for something in the middle of the action where I can take the girls back.

2. Exchange USD to Pesos in Tijuana or in the US? I'm not sure if I should carry mostly USD to Tijuana then work it out from there or do it beforehand if the exchange rate is worse there (like using an ATM in the strip club).

Any help is greatly appreciated. If anyone is also going to be there around that time, let me know!

Thanks

[Ath Trainer]

Hey all,

I'm going to take the plunge this Sept. For my birthday. It'll be the first time in Tijuana and first time outside the US. I've done some reading on the reports here and wanted to ask a few quick questions.

1. What is a good hotel to stay at in Tijuana? How much will it cost per night? I'll be arriving in San Diego but going to spend the nights in Tijuana. Looking for something in the middle of the action where I can take the girls back.

2. Exchange USD to Pesos in Tijuana or in the US? I'm not sure if I should carry mostly USD to Tijuana then work it out from there or do it beforehand if the exchange rate is worse there (like using an ATM in the strip club).

Any help is greatly appreciated. If anyone is also going to be there around that time, let me know!

ThanksIf this is your first time outside of the US, you might want to stay at a hotel in San Ysidro, USA, just next to the border. You can walk across the border, get a cab, and come back. Most of the action in Tijuana, especially for a newbie, happens in the hotels connected to the bar you are in. The SW's have their own hotels, also. There are 3 inexpensive hotels within walking distance to the border.

You do not have to exchange USD to Pesos "at all" if you don't want to. The reason you would, is to save a couple dollars. Again, for a newbie, KISS is always recommended. If you are going to do it, you will usually do better on the Tijuana side.

Look forward to your report.

[Chris Long]

Hey all,

I'm going to take the plunge this Sept. For my birthday. It'll be the first time in Tijuana and first time outside the US. I've done some reading on the reports here and wanted to ask a few quick questions.

1. What is a good hotel to stay at in Tijuana? How much will it cost per night? I'll be arriving in San Diego but going to spend the nights in Tijuana. Looking for something in the middle of the action where I can take the girls back.

2. Exchange USD to Pesos in Tijuana or in the US? I'm not sure if I should carry mostly USD to Tijuana then work it out from there or do it beforehand if the exchange rate is worse there (like using an ATM in the strip club).

Any help is appreciated. If anyone is also going to be there around that time, let me know!

ThanksI'm going to be in Tijuana the last weekend of Septemeber Thursday through Sunday Let me know if you are going to be there that weekend and we can meet up. You sound like me 6 months ago. I made my first ever monger trip and my first trip outside of the US over Thanksgiving weekend last year. Do you know how to get from the airport to the border, it is real easy here is some information to help you, San Diego public transit at http://www.sdcommute.com/TripPlanner/index.asp http://transit.511sd.com/PDFs/TrolleyTimetables.pdf Getting to Tijuana from the San Diego airport is really easy the airport itself is small and slow compared to the ones I am used to. There are two terminals terminal one and two. Most flights come in and out of terminal two. Once you exit the baggage claim from either terminal walk to your left a short distance and you will see a bus stop. Wait for the 992 bus which will take you to the trolley tell the driver you want a day pass which will cost you $5 this will allow you on the bus and the trolley. Many of the trolley stations seem to be under construction and my suggestion and the one I always used is the city college stop on 11th ave. And Broadway. Once you exit the bus on the side of the street that you exit there will be a building walk to the other side of the building and there will be the trolley stop take the blue line to San Yasidro the trolley itself is actually red but it will say San Yasidro at the front of the trolley. The trolley seems to work on some kind of honor system as there are no turnstiles that you have to put your ticket in to get access and no conductor ever came and asked for the ticket but be sure to buy your day pass from the bus driver just to be sure. The trolley will drop you right at the border. Once you exit the trolley if you stand facing south on your right hand side you will see a pedestrian bridge cross over it and turn to your left follow the sidewalk around go through the two turnstyles get in a cab and tell him Hong Kong club.

Be prepared for your jaw to drop and your eyes to fall out of your head when you walk into the Hong Kong club and see the quality of women that are available there.

I always stay on Tijuana side right in the zone. If you are going to be a high volume user of HK girls and street girls you will probably want to stay at the Cascades it is the hotel the HK girls use when they take a customer up. If your not staying there it will cost you an extra $15 for the half hour. Here is a link to the hotel and a youtube video someone shot at the hotel. http://hotelcascadas.com/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9WOxu078aY The place isn't bad, a little more rustic than appears in the video but not bad I always book the standard single ok room looks just like the youtube video, they don't come and clean the room on a daily bases but will if you ask them and tip them. There are no safes in the standard room but I always felt pretty safe staying there and never had any problems. If you are a light sleeper however you may not like it as there is 24/7 noise coming up from the bar below. Another place to stay on the Tijuana side is the hotel Ticuan many on here like it http://hotelticuan.com/ I belive you can get a room there for around $50 or $60 easy walking distance to the zone durring the day but you would want to cab it at night. I have never stayed there but a buddy of mine did and I took a look at his standard room and it was pretty nice.

As far as exchanging money there will be cambios in the zone you can do it there. Dollars are readily accepted and for the most part I did not notice much of a savings from converting almost all of the bar girls know what the conversion is and will adjust thier rates accordingly I only found with about 1/3 of the street girls was it a savings as they would use the old 10 to 1 conversion but about 2/3 of the street girls would adjust their rates to the current exchange rate.

Hope this helps, be prepared for the kid in a candy store reaction. I went crazy my first time there in a three and a half day period I slept with nearly 20 women.

Chris

[JPF]

2. Exchange USD to Pesos in Tijuana or in the US?Unless you are really good with math I would forget about pesos and just use $US. You will have enough other things to deal with.

If a chica says $60 or 700 pesos, which do you choose? Does it save you enough money to make it worthwhile? If you change too much money and have to convert back that will cost you, too.

[Phordphan]

If a chica says $60 or 700 pesos, which do you choose? Does it save you enough money to make it worthwhile?Neither. You counter with 600 pesos and stick to it. You've either saved $10 or $18. Does that make it worthwhile? Does between 3 and 6 free beers, depending on where you're drinking, make it worthwhile?

[JPF]

Neither. You counter with 600 pesos and stick to it. You've either saved $10 or $18. Does that make it worthwhile? Does between 3 and 6 free beers, depending on where you're drinking, make it worthwhile?It is just my opinion and I think that a first timer is in a very different position than a very experienced visitor like you. Unless he is good with math he will not be able to do that calculation quickly to know what his savings would be (and the savings will differ with the going exchange rate which changes constantly even between the afternoon and evening). Also, being a first timer he may be less inclined to bargain and / or walk away from a hotty that catches his fancy.

Having different points of view are valuable to Kooloo (and others in a similar position) so hopefully he can determine what he is comfortable with and how important it is to save some money on his trip.

[Keg]

Hit Tijuana this weekend and I can not wait for summer, I don't like having to take a jacket along. Every chica was cursing the cold when we'd go out of the club to go upstairs to the hotels, can't wait for summer.

Did not see one of my favoritas, a couple have taken extended time off from Easter, and one sent me an email saying she was going back home for six months, and that REALLY bummed me out.

There were a number of chicas I saw at HK and AB that I had done before so I repeated, not quite GFE but better than average experiences. I tried a couple of new chicas I have not seen before, one at HK was a nice choice and another at AB was a disaster. (I take responsibility for not vetting her better) , oh well, sometimes you got to gamble with the new ones when the favoritas are MIA.

[Keg]

If this is your first time outside of the US, you might want to stay at a hotel in San Ysidro, USA, just next to the border. You can walk across the border, get a cab, and come back. Most of the action in Tijuana, especially for a newbie, happens in the hotels connected to the bar you are in. The SW's have their own hotels, also. There are 3 inexpensive hotels within walking distance to the border.

You do not have to exchange USD to Pesos "at all" if you don't want to. The reason you would, is to save a couple dollars. Again, for a newbie, KISS is always recommended. If you are going to do it, you will usually do better on the Tijuana side.

Look forward to your report.KooLoo23,

I would certainly agree with Ath Trainer's advice. I was just in Tijuana this weekend and just happened to have a lenghty conversation with a newbie (not from this board, just a guy out on business to SD who came down to Tijuana on his own for the first time). We chatted at the bar over beers, and gave him a few pointers, but he did not know about this board, so you are already ahead of the game by reading about it first.

I have mongered in many different countries, and when you are there you jump in with both feet, language / culture / etc, at least with Tijuana you have the benefit of sticking your toe in first, and have the opportunity to go back to the US at night to stay in a US hotel.

There are several places that others have listed here as good options if you want to stay in Tijuana, and plenty of guys with little or no spanish can have fun in the Zona.

[Kooloo23]

I'm going to be in Tijuana the last weekend of Septemeber Thursday through Sunday Let me know if you are going to be there that weekend and we can meet up. You sound like me 6 months ago. I made my first ever monger trip and my first trip outside of the US over Thanksgiving weekend last year. Do you know how to get from the airport to the border, it is real easy here is some information to help you, San Diego public transit at.

http://www.sdcommute.com/TripPlanner/index.asp

http://transit.511sd.com/PDFs/TrolleyTimetables.pdf

Getting to Tijuana from the San Diego airport is really easy the airport itself is small and slow compared to the ones I am used to. There are two terminals terminal one and two. Most flights come in and out of terminal two. Once you exit the baggage claim from either terminal walk to your left a short distance and you will see a bus stop. Wait for the 992 bus which will take you to the trolley tell the driver you want a day pass which will cost you $5 this will allow you on the bus and the trolley. Many of the trolley stations seem to be under construction and my suggestion and the one I always used is the city college stop on 11th ave. And Broadway. Once you exit the bus on the side of the street that you exit there will be a building walk to the other side of the building and there will be the trolley stop take the blue line to San Yasidro the trolley itself is actually red but it will say San Yasidro at the front of the trolley. The trolley seems to work on some kind of honor system as there are no turnstiles that you have to put your ticket in to get access and no conductor ever came and asked for the ticket but be sure to buy your day pass from the bus driver just to be sure. The trolley will drop you right at the border. Once you exit the trolley if you stand facing south on your right hand side you will see a pedestrian bridge cross over it and turn to your left follow the sidewalk around go through the two turnstyles get in a cab and tell him Hong Kong club.

Be prepared for your jaw to drop and your eyes to fall out of your head when you walk into the Hong Kong club and see the quality of women that are available there.

I always stay on Tijuana side right in the zone. If you are going to be a high volume user of HK girls and street girls you will probably want to stay at the Cascades it is the hotel the HK girls use when they take a customer up. If your not staying there it will cost you an extra $15 for the half hour. Here is a link to the hotel and a youtube video someone shot at the hotel.

http://hotelcascadas.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9WOxu078aY

The place isn't bad, a little more rustic than appears in the video but not bad I always book the standard single ok room looks just like the youtube video, they don't come and clean the room on a daily bases but will if you ask them and tip them. There are no safes in the standard room but I always felt pretty safe staying there and never had any problems. If you are a light sleeper however you may not like it as there is 24/7 noise coming up from the bar below. Another place to stay on the Tijuana side is the hotel Ticuan many on here like it.

http://hotelticuan.com/

I belive you can get a room there for around $50 or $60 easy walking distance to the zone durring the day but you would want to cab it at night. I have never stayed there but a buddy of mine did and I took a look at his standard room and it was pretty nice.

As far as exchanging money there will be cambios in the zone you can do it there. Dollars are readily accepted and for the most part I did not notice much of a savings from converting almost all of the bar girls know what the conversion is and will adjust thier rates accordingly I only found with about 1/3 of the street girls was it a savings as they would use the old 10 to 1 conversion but about 2/3 of the street girls would adjust their rates to the current exchange rate.

Hope this helps, be prepared for the kid in a candy store reaction. I went crazy my first time there in a three and a half day period I slept with nearly 20 women.

ChrisVery detailed advice. Thanks.

I really appreciate you and others helping out. Right now I'm thinking Sept 19-23 since my birthday is that weekend. I graduated college not too long ago so I'm used to long nights and all kinds of noise levels. I actually love lively places that always has something going on so Tijuana will be a good fit.

I'm extremely low maintenance so it'll probably end up whatever is most cost effective. Just need a mattress somewhere I can pass out on after a long night.

Just waiting for a good time to get my ticket and I'm ready (hopefully)!

[Phordphan]

It is just my opinion and I think that a first timer is in a very different position than a very experienced visitor like you. Unless he is good with math he will not be able to do that calculation quickly to know what his savings would be (and the savings will differ with the going exchange rate which changes constantly even between the afternoon and evening). Also, being a first timer he may be less inclined to bargain and / or walk away from a hotty that catches his fancy.

Having different points of view are valuable to Kooloo (and others in a similar position) so hopefully he can determine what he is comfortable with and how important it is to save some money on his trip.Agreed. It's best not to overcomplicate things. It's also best not to overthink the situation.

If one changes one's money up front, then all one has to work with is pesos. No need to try to figure exchange rates. You have pesos, you'll only spend pesos, and if the girl doesn't like it she can go pound sand. Let the bars worry about exchange rates. As far as you, the customer, are concerned, you're going to figure 10:1 when it comes to girls.

So, the newbie has a bit more power in the transaction. He knows that $60/600MXN has been the going rate for ages. He can spend more, or less, as he chooses. But I'm all for giving the customer the most power in these transactions, and I hate to see newbies fleeced.

As you said, he can work out what's best for him. Having a good time is what's important. $10, one way or another, isn't going to make a hill of beans.

[Member #2738]

If you head to mexico and are not fluent in spanish just put a sign around your neck that says " OVERCHARGE ME " Everything in tijuana will be overprice (taxis, food, women, drinks, etc) if you don't speak the language or don't look local. The zona is pricey and yes they got hot girls but are hardened professionals who are mechanical in bed or just rushing to get it overwith. My best advice is to avoid mexico, the state department is right, and save your money for south america or asia. One good thing about tijuana is the crime is over rated. Daytime is pretty safe to walk around and even the night time is kind of ok to walk around. I was solo in tijuana and walked around day or night and never had any problems. But you don't want to dress nice (jeans tshirt) and late night it is probably better to take a cab to your hotel room.

[JPF]

My best advice is to avoid mexico, the state department is right, and save your money for south america or asia.If you have plenty of time and money this is good advice but it doesn't take into account the cost of travel to South America or Asia if you live in the US especially if you are within driving distance of Tijuana. The biggest ripoff I can think of (not counting scams that your common sense should help you avoid) would be paying the $100 that some chicas in HK ask when you should not spend more than $60 (or less if using pesos). That $40 "loss" is very small compared to the hundreds or thousand dollars difference in cost to get to Tijuana versus those distant mongering locals. Overpaying for taxis, drinks, etc. Would add to your loss but not significantly.

The odds of getting poor,"mechanical" sex in Tijuana for someone who does not speak Spanish is much higher than in South America or Asia but there are no guarantees anywhere.

My advice would be to do your research so you know what the going rates are and avoid overpaying wherever you go.

Member 2738: I see from your reports in other threads that you had some bad experiences in TJ. I am sorry to hear that. I hope that you don't give up and that you can experience some of the great chicas that be found in the zona.

[Ath Trainer]

If you have plenty of time and money this is good advice but it doesn't take into account the cost of travel to South America or Asia if you live in the US especially if you are within driving distance of Tijuana. The biggest ripoff I can think of (not counting scams that your common sense should help you avoid) would be paying the $100 that some chicas in HK ask when you should not spend more than $60 (or less if using pesos). That $40 "loss" is very small compared to the hundreds or thousand dollars difference in cost to get to Tijuana versus those distant mongering locals. Overpaying for taxis, drinks, etc. Would add to your loss but not significantly.

The odds of getting poor,"mechanical" sex in Tijuana for someone who does not speak Spanish is much higher than in South America or Asia but there are no guarantees anywhere.

My advice would be to do your research so you know what the going rates are and avoid overpaying wherever you go.

Member 2738: I see from your reports in other threads that you had some bad experiences in Tijuana. I am sorry to hear that. I hope that you don't give up and that you can experience some of the great chicas that be found in the zona.Tijuana is a 20. 30 minute, wham bam thank you mam, set up, taking place in a hotel room which is not yours. Girls want to do volume, since they cannot guarantee that giving exceptional service will result in repeat customers or sugar daddies. The older ones, may find it more successful for them to alter their approach as they age, and their appearance erodes.

[TweedleD]

Tijuana is a 20. 30 minute, wham bam thank you mam, set up, taking place in a hotel room which is not yours. Girls want to do volume, since they cannot guarantee that giving exceptional service will result in repeat customers or sugar daddies. The older ones, may find it more successful for them to alter their approach as they age, and their appearance erodes.If you can communicate, and you"re willing to pay the price, you can have wonderful sessions in Tijuana. Girls will come to your hotel, I've gone to their Apts, ect. And gotten exactly what I wanted out of the session, Also I don't Know how many times a girl tells me we need to go to her hotel and I just let her know its my way or the hiway. Sometimes it is the highway, but that's just part of the process for weeding out the starfish. There are a number of fun cool chicks that are fun to play with, and there's quite a few that aren't worth the bother, Kinda up to you to figure it out

[Joe Arturo]

If you head to mexico and are not fluent in spanish just put a sign around your neck that says " OVERCHARGE ME " Everything in tijuana will be overprice (taxis, food, women, drinks, etc) if you don't speak the language or don't look local. The zona is pricey and yes they got hot girls but are hardened professionals who are mechanical in bed or just rushing to get it overwith. My best advice is to avoid mexico, the state department is right, and save your money for south america or asia. One good thing about tijuana is the crime is over rated. Daytime is pretty safe to walk around and even the night time is kind of ok to walk around. I was solo in tijuana and walked around day or night and never had any problems. But you don't want to dress nice (jeans tshirt) and late night it is probably better to take a cab to your hotel room.I have had some true GFE experiences in Tijuana. Some have been mechanical but I have honed my skills to weed those out before we even talk about getting it on. Sorry that you have had bad experiences there.

[Member #4728]

I am local and I can say that in Mexico and even more in Tijuana the key is to negotiate for the service (its a lifestyle). The Americans have understood that, automatically get success in 80% of its agreements with prostitutes.

Do not forget, always ask or negotiate, even some of the paraditas speak some English and you can negotiate with them.

[RicFace]

Tons of advice here, thanks. I'm sure this place has been an endless source of support and information to a unrelenting amount of newbies like myself for years.

I just need to throw some questions out, if you guys don't want to answer them I understand.

-Which bar or haunt would give me the best exhibitionist experience? I really want perform in front of an audience. Price is the X-factor though in my motivation though, I don't want to spend full price.

-If I bought a hotel for the day, do I still have to pay the hotel price to the street girl?

-Which bar has the best value for lap dances?

-viagra or cialis?

-Is it possible to take a bar girl out for an event, like a boxing fight, the night you meet her?

[MikeyMae]

Let's see, I'll try to answer these to best of my abilities:

-Which bar or haunt would give me the best exhibitionist experience? I really want perform in front of an audience. Price is the X-factor though in my motivation though, I don't want to spend full price.

Hong Kong's famous shaving cream show often incorporates willing audience members. The shows usually start in the late afternoon. I'm not sure if any money changes hands in these instances.

-If I bought a hotel for the day, do I still have to pay the hotel price to the street girl?

Not strictly speaking but most street girls will only use their hotel and will not stray far from their "office". For example, if you have a room at Cascadas you wouldn't pay a hotel joiner fee but a chica standing in front of, say, Hotel Eduardo won't cross the street to accommodate you.

-Which bar has the best value for lap dances?

I have no idea. I don't drive two hours to Tijuana to get a lap dance LOL.

-viagra or cialis?

I prefer Cialis but the two medications work differently. Viagra has a more dramatic effect and you feel like you could punch holes in drywall for an hour. You'll also be walking around the zona with a boner that won't go away. Cialis will keep you in a constant state of readiness for up to a day and a half. When you need it it'll be there.

-Is it possible to take a bar girl out for an event, like a boxing fight, the night you meet her?

Absolutely. If it's during business hours, you'll probably have to pay a barfine unless you can convince the girl to sneak out and meet you (this is easier than you might think).

[Artisttyp]

I have had some true GFE experiences in Tijuana. Some have been mechanical but I have honed my skills to weed those out before we even talk about getting it on. Sorry that you have had bad experiences there.Agreed. It may take forever to get to that point but it is possible. If you do get there it is a win / win situation. How many people can cross an international line and get their rocks off then sleep in their own bed at night. I think it is pretty cool.

I will be in tijuana next week. At the moment I am in culiacan sinaloa.

[Joe Arturo]

Tons of advice here, thanks. I'm sure this place has been an endless source of support and information to a unrelenting amount of newbies like myself for years.

I just need to throw some questions out, if you guys don't want to answer them I understand.

-Which bar or haunt would give me the best exhibitionist experience? I really want perform in front of an audience. Price is the X-factor though in my motivation though, I don't want to spend full price.

-If I bought a hotel for the day, do I still have to pay the hotel price to the street girl?

-Which bar has the best value for lap dances?

-viagra or cialis?

-Is it possible to take a bar girl out for an event, like a boxing fight, the night you meet her?Hong Kong is probably the best place for exhibitionist experience. Several times I have seen guys participate in the shaving cream show with the girls. I have seen the girls put a condom on guys and give them head on the stage. Also I have seen guys naked in the jacuzzi with the girls after the shaving cream show. This is not my cup of tea but I have seen it several times.

You don't have to pay for the hotel if you buy a hotel for the day, but in most cases it has to be the hotel that the gal uses. Cascadas is probably a good choice for this because some of the street girls use it and all of the girls from Hong Kong use it.

I am not much into lap dances, so an answer from me is probably not too valuable, but I have heard that the best lap dances are at Hong Kong.

Cialis without a doubt. Viagra's effect lasts from 4 to 6 hours so you have to plan when you take it. Viagra loses its effect if you eat fatty foods (like those great al pastor tacos that are sold on the street). Cialis's effect lasts from 24 to 36 hours, so you just pop one and forget about it. Both lose their effects with the consumption of alcohol.

It is possible to take a bar girl to an event the night you meet her but is not probable. I have done this on occasion but I am known by the bartenders and the waiters who vouch for my honorable (hihihi) behaviour. I also speak Spanish fluently which really helps. This can be done with the first shift gals who get off of work around 10 PM.

Hope this helps

[Kuya Arikis]

I have read several posts today about Viagra vs Cialis. My question is whether or not you bring the Viagra / Cialis from home (take before crossing the border) , or do you buy it from a cheap Mexican source there for use? Is it readily available there? Is it reliable (heard people talk about Mexican Cialis vs more potent US version)? Also, has anyone bought and brought some back across the border? If you buy it there, is it expensive?

Very good hotel information today- it is greatly appreciated.

[Psychman]

If you head to mexico and are not fluent in spanish just put a sign around your neck that says " OVERCHARGE ME " Everything in tijuana will be overprice (taxis, food, women, drinks, etc) if you don't speak the language or don't look local. The zona is pricey and yes they got hot girls but are hardened professionals who are mechanical in bed or just rushing to get it overwith. My best advice is to avoid mexico, the state department is right, and save your money for south america or asia. One good thing about tijuana is the crime is over rated. Daytime is pretty safe to walk around and even the night time is kind of ok to walk around. I was solo in tijuana and walked around day or night and never had any problems. But you don't want to dress nice (jeans tshirt) and late night it is probably better to take a cab to your hotel room.This is frankly full of bad information. First, Tijuana is full of wonderful, cheap, low end resterants that would not dream of charging a gringo different prices than a Mexican national. It also, in spite of what some people might think, has some amazing food. See Mariscos Ruben for an amazing chebiche or seafood meal. The key is to get away from the tourist traps or the three block area of La Zona. Also, while it is true that there are many clock watchers and the majority of service is mechanical, there are some great escort services like adultbaja. Com where you can get killer GFE. 2 hour sessions for 160. Yes, more than most places, but for a short weekend away, a couple sessions at that price are not bad. Also, if you dress in jeans and a decent but modest dress shirt, you are actually more likely to fit in. Taxis? From my hotel of several trips (Ticuan) to the zona it is 5 bucks; how expensive is that. To some of the better resteraunts and normal clubs in the financial area it is under 10 bucks. So, yes, if you walk around like a tourist and go only to tourist rip off spots- you may get taken. But for the most part, Mexicans are honest and honorable people.

Of course, it is true that speaking Spanish helps, as it does anywhere in Latin America.

[HorseTrader]

I've done more bar and street girls than I can count. Add to that a few of the massage girls and I'm moderately experienced in the Zona. But I've never experienced a Tijuana escort and am ready to try. A couple of the girls on cumintj look totally hot to me and the thought of a GFE is a turn on.

The basic process seems simple enough: make arrangements while in the states, walk across the boarder, meet at McDonalds (or similar) , get in a cab, drive off to parts unknown, have a great time, get in another cab to the boarder. The part I don't like is meeting at the boarder and going to an area that is unfamiliar to me. I don't want to be sitting at McDonalds for an hour for a girl that never arrives or being hijacked because someone knows that I'll have a pocket full of cash to pay the escort.

On suggestion was to get a room at Cascadas and have her meet me there. If she doesn't show up, I'll at least be where I want to be and won't have wasted the hotel money.

Other suggestions would be appreciated.

[Reinaldo]

If you go with an established escort agency, your chances of being hijacked are nil. These agencies have been around for years and no one has ever reported being hijacked. My understanding is many if not most escorts will not go to Cascadas or other locations in the red light zone. They don't want to be seen in the zona. In fact that is one of the reasons they are escorts rather than working in the bars.


The part I don't like is meeting at the boarder and going to an area that is unfamiliar to me. I don't want to be sitting at McDonalds for an hour for a girl that never arrives or being hijacked because someone knows that I'll have a pocket full of cash to pay the escort.

On suggestion was to get a room at Cascadas and have her meet me there. If she doesn't show up, I'll at least be where I want to be and won't have wasted the hotel money.

Other suggestions would be appreciated.

[Simonwagstaff]

I have read several posts today about Viagra vs Cialis. My question is whether or not you bring the Viagra / Cialis from home (take before crossing the border) , or do you buy it from a cheap Mexican source there for use? Is it readily available there? Is it reliable (heard people talk about Mexican Cialis vs more potent US version)? Also, has anyone bought and brought some back across the border? If you buy it there, is it expensive?

Very good hotel information today- it is greatly appreciated.I asked about this before, with no reply so here goes. I bought some Mexican cialis at the drugstore that is right there when you cross the border. Mexican cialis. 4 20mg pills for 24 bucks. Bigger and rougher looking than the USA stuff. I have no idea if it is real or not but I took half of one and three pops out of this old man seemed to indicate something useful is going on. I don't know if it is cheaper or more real at other pharmacies. I will also say that it seems that the grocery store on Ave. Revolution is the best place to be buying tequilia, not the best selection but very good prices, better than the duty free. The pills are so small I am not sure that they would care much if you crossed the border back with them but I am not advocating this, however I do have a prescription so perhaps not a problem. To my knowledge they have not trained drug sniffing dogs to look for cialis.

[TomJackin]

it's been about a month since i traveled the brutal distance to spend time in my little backyard paradise, so after a full recovering from the dr, which took longer than usual, i had a long talk with my liver and we both agreed to head south on friday.

the i-5/805 onramp.

a month ago, it was posted to open in may, but now it's not due to open until august! does anyone know what happen there?

the mystery hound.

at the bottom of the pedestrian bridge ramp (on the way to cross into mexico) , a month ago i noticed a dog in the fenced in area, and i thought it was a fluke, that maybe the hound wondered in there by accident. but a month later, the pooch is still in the fenced area. does the dog have a purpose? who feeds the damn thing? help me out with this one.

the highlight of the trip.

got into hk around 3 and the spring break thing was going and it didn't seem like much of a change than the normal routine. sat down and it wasn't long before i spotted 2 of my favorite girls in mexico hanging out at the handicap ramp wagging there asses back and forth for dollar bills, and they both looked up at the same time and greeted me with big smiles. i went down to the ramp to pay my respects and was trying to decide which one to bring over for the fun loving "booth follies." one of them is my regular, but the other is the sweetest girl i've met in years. couldn't decide, so i brought them both over.

the girls and i had a good time. both are trained ficha drinkers, at least with me. they each sipped three little beers for over two hours. my camera was out most of the time and girls didn't show a ounce of shyness whatsoever. there is something nice about it when the girls are relaxed and playful, no expectations, just enjoying the time. they both knew which one i would be talking upstairs later; didn't make a difference to the other. i was able to practice my shitty spanish, and they did their best to correct my shitty spanish. hell, this is fun; another bucket of beers!

after getting some food in their bellies, one girl went back to work, and my girl and i retired to the room. it's been a month since i've been with her and she had an ass kicking planned for me. we got in the room, and she gave me this serious, but kind of drunk look, and asked,"listo? i replied,"sí." then she asked,"seguro?" i came up short for an anwser, so i replied,"fucking a!" that girl pounded my face and cock like it was her last day on earth. it was like every pound had a word. like,"don't, you, ever, stay, away, from, me, for, a, fucking, month, again!" it was the unspoken language that was important here. once again, point well taken!

other tidbits.

while on my way down revolution avenue when headed to cesar's for some good tequila and snacks, i noticed that revolution was vibrant with people out and about. as i was walking by el torito, there was this tall nice dude, that always tries to get me to go in there for the two for one drink specials. i told him that i was headed somewhere else, and he reminded me that i always say that to him. i said ok, on my way back i promise i will go up for a drink if he is out in front. and my promise is as good as gold.

after hanging with manual at cesar's, i headed back to the zona. on one of the corners, some dude was trying to get me to a club called madona's? i looked over and saw the place, never been, so i headed over with him. i inquired how much the mixed drinks were and was told $6. i told the dude that i pay $4 for the best places in the zona, so he said ok. i told him i would take a look, but no promises on buying a drink. i walked in the place and it seemed like a nice place, but there were only a few girls there, and one lonely ass customer that was sitting in front of a deserted stage with dance pole. as i was bailing, the guy offered my drink for $2.

on my way back, the el torito dude was out there, and a promise is a promise, so i went up and hung out looking over the balcony, which was great for down-shirt titty shots from the sidewalk below. i told him i wanted my 2 for 1 margaritas in one big glass. off he went, but returned and said there were no big glasses, which i know better because i've drank there in the past. i said whatever, just bring the damn drinks. he returned with, not two glasses, but two wendy paper cups full of margarita. i asked wtf? he just shrugged his shoulders and laughed.

so i finished one drink, i figured i could walk with the other, why not, it was a wendy's paper cup for goodness sake. at the next light, i was waiting to cross the road, and this pretty woman came up next to me and was waiting as well. i smiled and said hello and asked her if she would like to taste my tasty beverage, and she did! i didn't think much of it and continued walking towards the zona, but she was in tow the entire time. so i made a right at the arch and was about a block in and realized she was still right behind me. i stopped, turned around, asked her name, and asked if she was working someplace. she told me her name, said she wasn't working, and then said,"tu hotel, $50." i explained to her that i was old and tired. she smiled and gave me her number. opportunity is everywhere!

las chavelas.

i run through this place every trip in search of the hidden gem. as soon as i entered, i spotted a slender, yes i said it, slender dark skin girl. she looked like whitney houston, but not dead, more alive! whitney and i grabbed a booth and she turned out to be a great kisser. i got so wrapped up with her that i let my guard down. i looked down on the table and noticed a bag of fucking chips! and then i realized that i paid for that bag of fucking chips! i was livid! i forgot all about whitney, went to the bar, and told the bartender i wanted to see the manager right fucking now! the manager was a nice dude, and refunded my money for the chips immediately. hell, i done forgot about whitney.

the lowlight of the trip.

in hk during the late afternoon, i noticed this american couple were playing with the same bar girl. she is a new girl, kind of tall and built like azul, but not as big in features. the american woman was about the size of a fucking buffalo and nasty as hell! well eventually, it was the hk girl's turn to dance on the back stage. and on her last song she was buck naked and she really looked hot! then this doom settled over hk, and the buffalo got on stage!

the buffalo starts grinding with the dancer and then the dancer starts the horrid act of undressing this buffalo. i'm yelling,"for the love of christ! for the sake of humanity! someone stop this disaster before it strikes!" at this point, i'm hoping for a fire drill, an actual fire, an atf raid, an earthquake, anything to stop what's about to happen! the stripper peels off her pants, and the buffalo is wearing a thong! who in the fucks makes a thong in the xxx6 size?

i've always wanted to shake the hand of the original maker of the thong, because it has brought me so much pleasure over the years; especially in rio during carnival on the beach. but if i ever met the maker of the plus size thong, i would beat that fucker to a pulp! here is the sad and sick part. the act was drawing a crowd! even my girls wanted to get up and go over to the stage to check it out. maybe because it was different, maybe because it was like a grossed out circus act, who knows? but then again, i thought to myself,"hell, i fucked bigger woman than that! but, not from hk!"

[Guitarrefreak]

Fucking A buddy, your stories never cease to amaze, I had a pretty good time down there too myself this weekend, chilled with joe A a little. So many new faces in HK and adelitas, it is like new business in town!


It's been about a month since I traveled the brutal distance to spend time in my little backyard paradise, so after a full recovering from the DR, which took longer than usual, I had a long talk with my liver and we both agreed to head south on Friday.

[Ready Ru]

it's been about a month since i traveled the brutal distance to spend time in my little backyard paradise, so after a full recovering from the dr, which took longer than usual, i had a long talk with my liver and we both agreed to head south on friday.

the i-5/805 onramp.

a month ago, it was posted to open in may, but now it's not due to open until august! does anyone know what happen there?

the mystery hound.

at the bottom of the pedestrian bridge ramp (on the way to cross into mexico) , a month ago i noticed a dog in the fenced in area, and i thought it was a fluke, that maybe the hound wondered in there by accident. but a month later, the pooch is still in the fenced area. does the dog have a purpose? who feeds the damn thing? help me out with this one.

the highlight of the trip.

got into hk around 3 and the spring break thing was going and it didn't seem like much of a change than the normal routine. sat down and it wasn't long before i spotted 2 of my favorite girls in mexico hanging out at the handicap ramp wagging there asses back and forth for dollar bills, and they both looked up at the same time and greeted me with big smiles. i went down to the ramp to pay my respects and was trying to decide which one to bring over for the fun loving "booth follies." one of them is my regular, but the other is the sweetest girl i've met in years. couldn't decide, so i brought them both over.

the girls and i had a good time. both are trained ficha drinkers, at least with me. they each sipped three little beers for over two hours. my camera was out most of the time and girls didn't show a ounce of shyness whatsoever. there is something nice about it when the girls are relaxed and playful, no expectations, just enjoying the time. they both knew which one i would be talking upstairs later; didn't make a difference to the other. i was able to practice my shitty spanish, and they did their best to correct my shitty spanish. hell, this is fun; another bucket of beers!

after getting some food in their bellies, one girl went back to work, and my girl and i retired to the room. it's been a month since i've been with her and she had an ass kicking planned for me. we got in the room, and she gave me this serious, but kind of drunk look, and asked,"listo? i replied,"sí." then she asked,"seguro?" i came up short for an anwser, so i replied,"fucking a!" that girl pounded my face and cock like it was her last day on earth. it was like every pound had a word. like,"don't, you, ever, stay, away, from, me, for, a, fucking, month, again!" it was the unspoken language that was important here. once again, point well taken!

other tidbits.

while on my way down revolution avenue when headed to cesar's for some good tequila and snacks, i noticed that revolution was vibrant with people out and about. as i was walking by el torito, there was this tall nice dude, that always tries to get me to go in there for the two for one drink specials. i told him that i was headed somewhere else, and he reminded me that i always say that to him. i said ok, on my way back i promise i will go up for a drink if he is out in front. and my promise is as good as gold.

after hanging with manual at cesar's, i headed back to the zona. on one of the corners, some dude was trying to get me to a club called madona's? i looked over and saw the place, never been, so i headed over with him. i inquired how much the mixed drinks were and was told $6. i told the dude that i pay $4 for the best places in the zona, so he said ok. i told him i would take a look, but no promises on buying a drink. i walked in the place and it seemed like a nice place, but there were only a few girls there, and one lonely ass customer that was sitting in front of a deserted stage with dance pole. as i was bailing, the guy offered my drink for $2.

on my way back, the el torito dude was out there, and a promise is a promise, so i went up and hung out looking over the balcony, which was great for down-shirt titty shots from the sidewalk below. i told him i wanted my 2 for 1 margaritas in one big glass. off he went, but returned and said there were no big glasses, which i know better because i've drank there in the past. i said whatever, just bring the damn drinks. he returned with, not two glasses, but two wendy paper cups full of margarita. i asked wtf? he just shrugged his shoulders and laughed.

so i finished one drink, i figured i could walk with the other, why not, it was a wendy's paper cup for goodness sake. at the next light, i was waiting to cross the road, and this pretty woman came up next to me and was waiting as well. i smiled and said hello and asked her if she would like to taste my tasty beverage, and she did! i didn't think much of it and continued walking towards the zona, but she was in tow the entire time. so i made a right at the arch and was about a block in and realized she was still right behind me. i stopped, turned around, asked her name, and asked if she was working someplace. she told me her name, said she wasn't working, and then said,"tu hotel, $50." i explained to her that i was old and tired. she smiled and gave me her number. opportunity is everywhere!

las chavelas.

i run through this place every trip in search of the hidden gem. as soon as i entered, i spotted a slender, yes i said it, slender dark skin girl. she looked like whitney houston, but not dead, more alive! whitney and i grabbed a booth and she turned out to be a great kisser. i got so wrapped up with her that i let my guard down. i looked down on the table and noticed a bag of fucking chips! and then i realized that i paid for that bag of fucking chips! i was livid! i forgot all about whitney, went to the bar, and told the bartender i wanted to see the manager right fucking now! the manager was a nice dude, and refunded my money for the chips immediately. hell, i done forgot about whitney.

the lowlight of the trip.

in hk during the late afternoon, i noticed this american couple were playing with the same bar girl. she is a new girl, kind of tall and built like azul, but not as big in features. the american woman was about the size of a fucking buffalo and nasty as hell! well eventually, it was the hk girl's turn to dance on the back stage. and on her last song she was buck naked and she really looked hot! then this doom settled over hk, and the buffalo got on stage!

the buffalo starts grinding with the dancer and then the dancer starts the horrid act of undressing this buffalo. i'm yelling,"for the love of christ! for the sake of humanity! someone stop this disaster before it strikes!" at this point, i'm hoping for a fire drill, an actual fire, an atf raid, an earthquake, anything to stop what's about to happen! the stripper peels off her pants, and the buffalo is wearing a thong! who in the fucks makes a thong in the xxx6 size?

i've always wanted to shake the hand of the original maker of the thong, because it has brought me so much pleasure over the years; especially in rio during carnival on the beach. but if i ever met the maker of the plus size thong, i would beat that fucker to a pulp! here is the sad and sick part. the act was drawing a crowd! even my girls wanted to get up and go over to the stage to check it out. maybe because it was different, maybe because it was like a grossed out circus act, who knows? but then again, i thought to myself,"hell, i fucked bigger woman than that! but, not from hk!"what, no picture of the buffalo, jajajaja

[Artisttyp]

Nice butt in face pics tom. Lets see a little "dirt" on the nose next time.

[Country John]

I've done more bar and street girls than I can count. Add to that a few of the massage girls and I'm moderately experienced in the Zona. But I've never experienced a Tijuana escort and am ready to try. A couple of the girls on cumintj look totally hot to me and the thought of a GFE is a turn on.

The basic process seems simple enough: make arrangements while in the states, walk across the boarder, meet at McDonalds (or similar) , get in a cab, drive off to parts unknown, have a great time, get in another cab to the boarder. The part I don't like is meeting at the boarder and going to an area that is unfamiliar to me. I don't want to be sitting at McDonalds for an hour for a girl that never arrives or being hijacked because someone knows that I'll have a pocket full of cash to pay the escort.

On suggestion was to get a room at Cascadas and have her meet me there. If she doesn't show up, I'll at least be where I want to be and won't have wasted the hotel money.

Other suggestions would be appreciated.One reason for meeting at the border is so that they can throw eyeballs on you to see if they really do want your business. Once you get past that, you go to their hotel for security reasons. Many (if not all) will go to your hotel, so you can do that too. Communicate with the agency, ask all the questions; you are the client. Don't worry about waiting at the border, just stay and plain sight, and don't be counting money while you are waiting. Don't look like you have money, and don't look stupid or appear to be unaware of your surroundings.

[Country John]

Nice butt in face pics tom. Lets see a little "dirt" on the nose next time.LOL, that's what I call "sniffing out them mud bunnies." Great post too!

[Country John]

If you head to mexico and are not fluent in spanish just put a sign around your neck that says " OVERCHARGE ME " Everything in tijuana will be overprice (taxis, food, women, drinks, etc) if you don't speak the language or don't look local. The zona is pricey and yes they got hot girls but are hardened professionals who are mechanical in bed or just rushing to get it overwith. My best advice is to avoid mexico, the state department is right, and save your money for south america or asia. One good thing about tijuana is the crime is over rated. Daytime is pretty safe to walk around and even the night time is kind of ok to walk around. I was solo in tijuana and walked around day or night and never had any problems. But you don't want to dress nice (jeans tshirt) and late night it is probably better to take a cab to your hotel room.My advice would be to read O'Tools post very carefully. The girls here really do want your money, not your love; it's a business plain and simple. Many have found love here and very many more found out the hard way that business is business.

If you are not fluent in Spanish, then don't be fluent in Stupid. There is no shortage of information here to help you through.

I would disregard the above post.

[Guitarrefreak]

Pure words of wisdom, plain and simple.


My advice would be to read O'Tools post very carefully. The girls here really do want your money, not your love; it's a business plain and simple. Many have found love here and very many more found out the hard way that business is business.

If you are not fluent in Spanish, then don't be fluent in Stupid. There is no shortage of information here to help you through.

I would disregard the above post.

[Derekj6926]

Pure words of wisdom, plain and simple.Country John I have never had the pleasure to meet but I am quite sure we have partied together and did not know it. Let me affirm what the gentlemen said, it is ALL about the green. As a sweetheart of mine said to me with the brutal truth which I will never forget!"When hunger comes in the door love goes out the window"

[Joe Arturo]

My advice would be to read O'Tools post very carefully. The girls here really do want your money, not your love; it's a business plain and simple. Many have found love here and very many more found out the hard way that business is business.

If you are not fluent in Spanish, then don't be fluent in Stupid. There is no shortage of information here to help you through.

I would disregard the above post.As a prositute friend of mine in Mexicali once advised me. Never fall in love with a prostitute as they are not capable of loving you back.

I have made this mistake a few times and found to my sorrow that my prostitute friend was absolutely correct. Look for a great time but forget about love!

[Baxter Slade]

As a prositute friend of mine in Mexicali once advised me. Never fall in love with a prostitute as they are not capable of loving you back.

I have made this mistake a few times and found to my sorrow that my prostitute friend was absolutely correct. Look for a great time but forget about love!Hey Joe, or anyone with experience in this area. How does that theroy apply to a retired prostitute? Or does the old adage come into play," once a prostitute always a prostitute"

[Phordphan]

Hey Joe, or anyone with experience in this area. How does that theroy apply to a retired prostitute? Or does the old adage come into play," once a prostitute always a prostitute"I think a lot depends on how long she was in the business. The longer, the more damaged, IMO. Of course, exceptions abound, but, in general, I think that adage is true.

I've had civvies and hookers "fall in love" with me, and the "love" you receive is, somehow, different. It's hard to really put your finger on the differences, but it's there. I guess maybe it's the feeling that if money gets tight, or other problems crop up, she'll always resort to hooking. A non-hooker would never consider that. If you can live with that, great. If not, best to reconsider.

Just my dos centavos, FWIW.

[TomJackin]

dog 1.

at the bottom of the pedestrian bridge ramp (on the way to cross into mexico) , over a month ago i noticed a dog in the fenced in area, and i mentioned the pooch in the last report. well, i was determine to feed the damn thing this time around. i went into jack-in-the-box to buy a cheap burger, but the line was way too long. so i went to macdonald's and the line was worst. so not giving up, i stopped in a little store and decided to buy a big tasty muffin. i've had labs in the past and they ate every damn thing in site. at the end of the ramp, i spotted the pooch and tried to call it over, it got closer, but kept its distance. i broke the muffin in half and launched the two halves towards the pooch. the dog went over, smelled the muffin, and then looked up and said,"yo gringo, ¿dónde está la carne?" so much for that idea.

dog 2.

there was a dog sniffing trap set-up before the first turnstile going into mexico. not sure what the dog was sniffing for, but it sure did take a liking to me. it sniffed my crotch, jumped up on my leg, my side, and as i kept walking, it jumped up on the back of my leg. as i'm holding my arms in the air, keeping at least two limbs protected, i asked the agent,"does the dog bite?" the asshole replied,"i don't know." i replied,"wait a damn minute, you are telling me that you are handling a dog and you don't know whether it bites or not?" the agent just ignored me completely.

the assault.

around 3 in the afternoon, i head down the front entrance in hk and speedy is sitting next to the bottom of the ramp so i stopped and chatted for a couple of minutes, freddy was also there. i had my back to the crowd while chatting. and then i felt this shoulder and elbow slamming into me as hard as possible to get me out of the way, and i damn near went down. granted, i was on the ramp to exit the place, but there was still plenty of walking space. speedy yells out something to this bald headed latino and i looked at him with a "what the fuck? look. i gaffed it off and continued talking to speedy. out of the corner of my eye, i saw this dick coming down the ramp rather quickly, and before i could have reacted faster than i wanted to, i took a strong right hook to the side of my face. he turned and bolted, and speedy and freddy made a beeline after him, but to no avail. still not sure why that happened. my guess is that he was drunk and pissed about something, and i just happen to be an easy target while on his way out.

no place to go but up from here.

while sitting in the booth licking my wounds and still wondering wtf happen, i was determine to change the mood. lucky for me, the sg master artisttyp was in town and was on his way over. after some intellectual conversation, it was time to bring one of the ladies over for booth follies. i saw one of my favorites and it was game time. after about an hour of booth follies i was feeling a lot better about things, but not completely. because i called the day before and made an appointment with one of my favorite sgs, we bailed and hit the alley. and you can bet your ass that i was scanning that alley so i didn't run into my new found friend.

and then there were three. part 1.

my street girl gaffed out our date and stayed home, so with the recommendation of artisttyp, i quickly had a substitute. the sg and i headed over to the little corner store to stock up on some goodies for the upcoming hour session. we got some orange juice, vodka, ice and cups. then the moment of dread, i feel someone tugging on the back of my shirt. could this be my new hk buddy? i glance over at the sg and saw that she is looking down and smiling at the person behind me; whew! it was a little girl asking for change. i told her no. and then she did the little belly rub indicating she was hungry. i pointed to the taco stand just outside the store, and asked if she wanted a taco, and she said no. then she got this big smile on her face and yelled out something that meant potato chips. just at that moment her other siblings came running in. and when i said ok, they reacted like i told them i would take them to disneyland! yeah, i know it wasn't the healthiest thing to give them, but after being rejected earlier by a dog for my choice of food, i didn't feel too bad.

and then there were three. part 2.

after a great session, it turned out the sg was hungry; go figure. so we head to the fish taco stand for some great spicy shrimp tacos. artisttyp showed up at the same time. we sit down and were just about to order when i noticed two of the dressed like school girls sprinting across the street and they ended up right behind us. i looked at my sg and took a wild guess and asked,"amigas?" she smiled and nodded. i said, alright, i'm going out on a limb here and taking another wild guess that they are hungry as well. all three smiled and nodded. well hell, let's eat! it worked out well because i planned a 3-some with two of them in the near future.

crosswalk opportunities.

on my way back to the zona from la estrella, i there was a sweetie that looked over and smiled while we were waiting for the light to change. i smiled back and said hello. then we crossed the road and she seemed to be waking fast and i was in no damn hurry, but then she slowed down and let me catch up with her. we started chatting, if you can call my shitty spanish chatting, and i ask her if she wants to have a drink. just then her friend walked up, and she seemed thirsty too. so we headed up to el torito's and sat outside and ordered some drinks, they each ordered a beer. when the server left, the negotiations started. both of them in my hotel for $60 each. i told them i was tired, had a hard enough day, and was headed back to sd shortly; so no thank you was my answer. the first girl said that she wanted money for both of them just to sit there and have a drink with me. my first question was,"do i look that fucking stupid?" which could have been answered either way at that point. my second question was,"are you out of your fucking mind?" they got the message, got up and left. the server came back with my two wendy's cups full of margaritas and two unopened beers, which stayed unopened.

i ended the evening at adelita. i will admit, that club has some of the hottest women in the zona. i just wish that i could play with them for a lousy buck like i can in hk. and i seriously doubt if i could get away with half of the shit that i do in the booths in adelita as i do in hk. i hung out with guitarrefreak for awhile and just watched stunner after stunner walk by. i met and had a drink with one of the stunners and i found out to my surprise, that she lives in oceanside and only comes down to tijuana to work on the weekends. phone numbers were exchanged. this might be a good thing, but these girls are so unpredictable; who in the hell knows?

[Guitarrefreak]

Great to see you again old friend.

I did hang out for a while til my gal came for me, she explained the situation, which I will spare the details (bet you will roll your eyes and say "wake up dude, what the fuck man!") , but it was a decent story nonetheless, wasn't too try-hard on her part to be too dramatic.

All in all, I had a decent time til 5am at which point I had to leave, but I did go back last night and bumped into Joe A. In Chicago. Always nice to see another friendly face.

Thing about Adelitas is, I may be going there too frequently that the girls are starting to poke fun at me for not taking them upstairs, nice thing though is that they will come up, grab any part of my body, or just start giving me an unprompted massage, and really doesn't look pissed if I have to ask them to leave, like that feeling.

HK is full of talents as usual, but the lights flashing and the loud music, and just the density of guys walking around, sometimes gets to me.

Also great to finally meet the great Artisstyp in person.

Health and happniess to all.


Dog 1.

At the bottom of the pedestrian bridge ramp (on the way to cross into Mexico) , over a month ago I noticed a dog in the fenced in area, and I mentioned the pooch in the last report. Well, I was determine to feed the damn thing this time around. I went into Jack-in-the-Box to buy a cheap burger, but the line was way too long. So I went to MacDonald's and the line was worst. So not giving up, I stopped in a little store and decided to buy a big tasty muffin. I've had Labs in the past and they ate every damn thing in site. At the end of the ramp, I spotted the pooch and tried to call it over, it got closer, but kept its distance. I broke the muffin in half and launched the two halves towards the pooch. The dog went over, smelled the muffin, and then looked up and said,"Yo Gringo, ¿Dónde está la carne?" So much for that idea.

I ended the evening at Adelita. I will admit, that club has some of the hottest women in the Zona. I just wish that I could play with them for a lousy buck like I can in HK. And I seriously doubt if I could get away with half of the shit that I do in the booths in Adelita as I do in HK. I hung out with Guitarrefreak for awhile and just watched stunner after stunner walk by. I met and had a drink with one of the stunners and I found out to my surprise, that she lives in Oceanside and only comes down to Tijuana to work on the weekends. Phone numbers were exchanged. This might be a good thing, but these girls are so unpredictable; who in the hell knows?

[Sunset Strip]

Tomjackin,

Is that a dog or a wolf? He is always sitting there in the mornings when I go to Tijuana.


Just completed reading your post. I see you took a picture of the wolf!

Again, sorry to hear of the attack.
I am away, getting ready to head to the DR, as you know. I will be back in SOCAL around mid-June. Until then you guys keep holding it down in TJ.


SS

[JimmyKienTran]

Tomjackin,

Is that a dog or a wolf? He is always sitting there in the mornings when I go to Tijuana.

Just completed reading your post. I see you took a picture of the wolf!

Again, sorry to hear of the attack.

I am away, getting ready to head to the DR, as you know. I will be back in SOCAL around mid-June. Until then you guys keep holding it down in Tijuana.

SSWsup with them? Still around? I read a post from you about it a while ago. I heard Cheap but goood sex and BJ? True or false?

[Artisttyp]

Also great to finally meet the great Artisstyp in person.

Health and happniess to all.Nice to meet you too.

The Tijuana thread has some good guys on it. These are people that look out for each other. Like joe arturo who arranged a hotel reservation for me in Mexicali. Even offered to pick me up at the bus station.

Tom Jackin who lets me bottom feed off his ficha drinks. Thanks to him I have my first butt in face photo. I will post it when I return.

This is a good crew!

[Baxter Slade]

TI was a beautiful day in So Cal so why not make a run for the border. The only problem was my truck wasn't cooperating. It died a couple times along the way. Then I would wait on the side of the freeway for a few minutes and it would start again. I probably should have turned around but once you get Tijuana in your mind there is no turning back.

I arrived at the 24 hour lot at about 1 o clock I was supposed to meet GF at 12:30 at Ticuan at 12:31 I recieved a text donde esta mother Funker. I told her I would be there shortly. Good thing never a shortage of cabs in Tijuana took the 3 dollar trip to Ticuan and met up with her. Kind of creepy when you leave the country for sexcapades and you go to check into the hotel and they know you by name without even asking.

Got my favorite room and the bellman took us up, before the door could even close I was being attacked by GF wanting sex. What is with these women south of the border they are so passionate. I have spent most of my adult years looking for sex and it has never been anything like this, it is usually the other way around. Anyway I convinced her to wait and we headed over to a restaruant about a 15 minute cab ride away We took one of those red cabs, you share it with other people and no matter where you go it comes out to a buck a person. We ended up at this restaurant that looks like a giant sombrero. The food was good they had entertainment, and the orange juice was about the freshest I have ever tasted.

After lunch we decided to walk all the way back to Ticuan. One thing I noticed along the walk was Tijuana sure has alot of restaraunts and the other thing was I know alot of people come on this board worrying about crime and safety in Tijuana. Well I must say I felt much safer than walking around LA or most large US cities.

We thought about heading to the zona for some drinks but instead ended up in the room for sex, nap, sex, nap. Before we knew it it was 7:30 and we had plans for a XBG friend of hers to meet up with a current monger friend of mine. We made it on time of course her friend was running on chica time. But we had a nice italian dinner at the place by 9th and Rev. And headed to Las Pulgas for some drinking and dancing. My friend and hers seemed to hit it off ok but he ended up leaving without her. His choice I guess in Tijuana you just don't have to worry about finding sex when there is a chica around every corner.

After he left her friend was getting attention from men in Las Pulgas, as strange as it may sound she seemed to be conducting interviews by checking penis size and apparently she didn't find what she was looking for. About 4 something we headed back to the room. By now I was exahusted and believe it or not sex was the last thing on my mind, I just needed sleep. Without anything being said it appeared her drunk friend was going to sleep over. Why not the bed was big enough. Just about as I was to fall asleep I started hearing loud breathing and moaning, how do you like that there was a lesbian show going on right next to me. And just like that I wasn't so tired and I became interested in sex. You want penis in friends pussy, I think that was a test so I passed but I was eventually satisfied and I could feel extra hands involved and it was a great experience. So now it is about 5:30 in the morning and her friend is telling me to call my friend and tell him she needed penis. So I sent him a text and like a trooper he responded send her over by cab and he would be out front waiting. I never did hear how his experience worked out, but damn Tijuana is one crazy place.

Next day I headed home about noon a long wait at the border due to some Mexican holiday, almost 2 hours. And regarding tahat dog by the bottom of the ramp it remains a mystery. I gave that fenced area a closer look and it looks like he may be able to leave by walking under the concrete ramp there was no fence in that area. Maybe like those homeless guys who find a good freeway ramp to look for freebies he has found a place to hang out and get fed by all the people who pass by

[Member #4728]

Great experience.

You walked from the hat until the 8th street, wow, is about 1 hour walk.

Yes, Tijuana is usually safe when you have Low profile appearance, not so much for the rich or people who have no minimum precaution.

Congratulations on your real girlfriend experience.


TI was a beautiful day in So Cal so why not make a run for the border. The only problem was my truck wasn't cooperating. It died a couple times along the way. Then I would wait on the side of the freeway for a few minutes and it would start again. I probably should have turned around but once you get Tijuana in your mind there is no turning back.

I arrived at the 24 hour lot at about 1 o clock...

[Travel Addict]

SHORT VISIT TO Tijuana?

WORRIED ABOUT GETTING LOST, COPS, SAFETY, FOOD, ETC?

DON'T KNOW WHERE TO STAY?

THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO DO IT, BUT HERE IS THE SAFEST, QUICKEST, CLEANEST, DRAMA- FREE BUT NOT CHEAPEST WAY TO SEE Tijuana FOR THE FIRST TIME.

DO NOT DRIVE A RENTAL CAR INTO Tijuana. DO NOT TRY TO STAY OUTSIDE THE ZONA AND GO BACK AND FORTH, DO NOT GO EXPLORING ON YOUR OWN. DO NOT TRY TO STAY ON THE USA SUDE AND COMMUTE, IT IS NO SAFER AND YOU CAN GET STUCK IN A 3 HOUR LINE TO GO BACK ACROSS.

DO NOT WALK AROUND OUTSIDE DRUNK STONED OR WITH CONTRABAND IN YOUR POCKET.

DO NOT TALK TO OR FOLLOW people YOU DON'T KNOW ON THE STREET.

EAT AT THE MONTE CARLO RESTAURANT NEXT TO ADELITAS, CALIENTE ACROSS THE STREET,"COMO LO BUENO" RESTAURANT NEXT TO MERMAIDS.

XOXO STORE IN FRONT OF HK IS THE 7/11 OF MEXICO, COFFEE, BEER, ETC.

OFFER $20 to open negotiations with street girls (YMMV, make sure you know what you are getting, OK to go up to $30-40 for exceptional or on wkends.)

S / G operate in 15 minute increments, bar girls in 30 minute increments, $5-10 for a quickie room 15 minutes, $12-15 to use the bar hotel for 30 mins.

Club girls offer $60 (YMMV anywhere from $50-100 depending on day, time, phase of the moon, special interests etc.) 30 mins.

Stick to the Hong Kong, Adelitas, Chavelas, Chicago, Tropical, street girls until you know what you are doing.

BEFORE you enter a room, give a buck or two to the guy who takes you there, now you are big friends and he won't come bang on your door early.

If you follow these instructions, you will be 99% safe and have a happy experience.

STAY OVER RIGHT IN THE ZONA: The Tijuana scene is a red light 4x3 block area where it is legal, the cops (theoretically) protect the girls the hotels and the clubs, and 90% of the girls won't leave that safe area unless they have known you for a long time, so now you are going to have to rent a fleabag room for $5 for 15 minutes or $10 for 30 minutes to do the deed.

WHY NOT GET A ROOM AND JUST STAY THERE, NOT WORRY ABOUT TIME LIMITS, WALKING AROUND, ETC?

Best bet: Walk across the border, grab a yellow cab 50 mts in front of the gate, go DIRECTLY to the Hong Kong Club. 10 minute ride for $5, pay $50 for a VIP card at the HK front desk, then walk right upstairs to the Cascadas Hotel, get a regular room for about $40, Jaccuzi suite for $65, nicer and cleaner than the Ticuan. It is the only place the HK girls are allowed to go, AND you can enter with any s / g, who will think you area high class guy for not making her go in the stinky $5 room. The place was completely remodeled over 5mm a yr ago and most of these cheapskates you are talking to won't spring for an extra $20 for the nice rooms, LOL.

The jacuzzi suites are on the higher floors, very little noise from the club below. Great restaurants on the street, clean food, room service, if you are coming from out of town why fuck around to save $20? You got everything there on ONE BLOCK. Check out the pic of the room with the champagne and jacuzzi that's the actual room = $85 MINUS 20% for the VIP card. $20 higher Friday Saturday, Immaculate and safe, and you don't have to go gallivanting around in taxis. The street girls stand right outside the door to the Cascadas. After a coupla nights there, WITH 200+ to choose from within 100 mts of your room, you will know the whole area, have lots of friends, and THEN you may decide to try somewhere else.

http://hktijuana.com/

http://hotelcascadas.com/

YES THERE ARE A LOT OF CHEAPER ALTERNATIVES, AND INTERESTING SIDETRIPS, BUT THEY ARE ALL WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF THE CASCADAS / HK / ADELITAS / TRIANGLE ANYWAY SO JUST CHECK IN FOR A NIGHT AND THEN GO LOOKING AROUND.

[Sunset Strip]

Travel Addict is making sense here. In the old days, before 9/11, nobody would really consider staying in Tijuana. Cascades was a basic hotel. I knew some rooms in Cascades that actually shared an A / C back then.

But now there have been lots of improvements and as TA states you are, to an extent, in a better room than you can get in San Diego oftentimes for the same price. Try getting a jacuzzi suite for $65 in San Diego!

The other big advantage and change from the old days is the LONG wait in the border line. The wait can kill your trip, for sure. In fact, I know lots of guys who will fly to other areas rather than Tijuana just to avoid the waiting each day.

But TA is right, staying the zona will cut out the issue of the border line all together.

TJ will really be a good spot if there comes a time when we can get the GFE inside the zona. It took TJ a long time to realize that sprucing the zona hotels would entice men to stay in TJ. Now all they need to realize is that some sort of GFE that men can get in other Latin American nations might entice more men to stay with TJ.

SS

[Ath Trainer]

I disagree with you saying it's not safe to commute back and forth to San Ysidro. I do this every trip, w / o incident. If you are going to cross the border during the day back into the states, I would agree that's not a good idea. I come back after midnight and a 5 minute line is a long one.

Which guy are you tipping to delay the knock? I never remember anyone showing us where the room is. The guy at the counter gives her a room number, and I follow her lead. Never got lost, BTW. LOL

[HorseTrader]

I disagree with you saying it's not safe to commute back and forth to San Ysidro. I do this every trip, w / o incident. If you are going to cross the border during the day back into the states, I would agree that's not a good idea. I come back after midnight and a 5 minute line is a long one.

Which guy are you tipping to delay the knock? I never remember anyone showing us where the room is. The guy at the counter gives her a room number, and I follow her lead. Never got lost, BTW. LOLSometimes I stay in San Ysidro, sometimes in San Diego, seldom in Tijuana. It all works and I've had zero problems.

I've crossed the border 10 times in the last 2 weeks without incident. Longest line was back to the point where it doubles around off the sidewalk and onto the street; that was last Sunday evening around 10:00 and it took 1 hour and 5 minutes (I timed it). Three times I had less than 10-minute wait; those were all at about 8:00 PM. One weekday evening at about 7:30 PM there was absolutely no wait, but the agent said that an hour before it was all backed up.

[Rabo Verde]

I agree with TA below. Why anyone would stay in San Ysidro post 9/11 is a mistery to me. Yeah just what I want to do when I am drunk and tired, pay $5 for a cab ride back to the border go stand in line for an hour+ so I can have the great privilege of staying at some stinky fleabag in San Ysidro for the same price as a nice room in the zona. Why waste several hours a day fucking around with homeland security, crooked cops, etc. For the "privilege" of sleeping on american soil a whole mile as the crow flies from the Hong Kong Club???? WHY WHY WHY?

Then the next day I can walk back to the border, pay $5 to go BACK to the zona, great idea and waste ANOTHER hour or so. The when I find a girl I am going to pay $5-15 to use a room for 15 or 30 minutes anyway, and instead of staying in my nice clean room drinking champagne in the jacuzzi for as long as I want for $60, some kid is gonna knock on my door and kick me out. If you guys have some masochistic streak, fine. I will be in my nice clean jacuzzi while you are wasting your time and licking cum off the pillow of some fleabag hotel as fast as you can before the cum-boy knocksso you can come here and brag to the rest of us about how you saved $20 by wasting hours of your time. Oh wait you didn't save anything, you paid $10 round trip for the taxi, wasted hours of your time, and then had to pay for a TEMPORARY cum-stained room in the zona anyway so you could get a quickie.

[Chris Long]

Flying into San Diago tomorrow, going to spend the weekend in Tijuana, Cascadas, anybody else going to be in town and want to hang out and chase women together. I should be at the HK around 5 or 6. Ill be the short pudgy middle aged unempressive looking white guy. White shirt tan pants. If your gong to be in town and see me there stop and say hello.

Chris

[Joe Arturo]

Tijuana will really be a good spot if there comes a time when we can get the GFE inside the zona. It took Tijuana a long time to realize that sprucing the zona hotels would entice men to stay in Tijuana. Now all they need to realize is that some sort of GFE that men can get in other Latin American nations might entice more men to stay with Tijuana.

SSIt took me a few years to hone my skills and learn to speak Spanish fluently, but now I get GFE 9 times out of 10 in the zona. I think the zona knows that GFE will get more guys to stay in Tijuana but the guys don't know how to get it!

[Sunset Strip]

It took me a few years to hone my skills and learn to speak Spanish fluently, but now I get GFE 9 times out of 10 in the zona. I think the zona knows that GFE will get more guys to stay in Tijuana but the guys don't know how to get it!Ok, Joe, that is food for thought. So the GFE is possible if you work at it diligently. Makes sense.

But I was actually talking in terms of comparison with the DR, Brazil, and a few other places in latin America, where guys hang out with girls, stay in relatively cheap apartments, get all night at a good rate (about what we pay for an hour in Tijuana). In the DR and Brazil you can walk down the street holding hands with girls, grab dinner in their "zona". There are discos where you can go and hang out with girls (not strip bars). You can take girls to the movies, etc.

Some guys do all of this in Tijuana but the norm is wam, bam, than you ma'am. You leave her the money and walk out the room separately. There is no you and her beyond the few minutes in the room. Prostitution in Tijuana is closer to USA prostitution (very business like) than anywhere else in Latin America.

Tijuana is a gem that has much more to offer, IMO.

P.S.
I forgot prostitution is technically illegal in Mexico, just tolerated in certain zones. This fact may well influence why guys and girls do mingle openly the way they do in latin american nations where prostitution is legal.
SS

[Phordphan]

P. S.

I forgot prostitution is technically illegal in Mexico, just tolerated in certain zones. This fact may well influence why guys and girls do mingle openly the way they do in latin american nations where prostitution is legal.

SSAu contraire, mon frere.

It is legal in MX, however it is regulated and regulations tend to vary from state to state.

That's why, in Tijuana for instance, you see most of it happening in the Zona Norte, or zone of tolerance. You can have chicas standing on the street, going shh, shh, and all that goes with it. It's been zoned to this area and, at least officially, not permitted elsewhere. However, there are still laws forbidding brothels and pimping. That's why you have to exit a bar and walk on the street (even a few feet) to get to the hotel. And also why in-house escort places don't advertise their locations.

Tijuana has evolved as it has, IMHO, due to its proximity to the USA, and its traditional "use" as a spot to briefly escape idiotic regulation in the USA, such as Prohibition. It's never really been a vacation destination (I'm not sure how many border towns truly are) , and the prototypical customer tended to be a gringo who popped over the border for some cheap booze and quickie sex. I don't think the market for long-time GFE-type services really ever existed in Tijuana. You can get it, but it's a lot more work, and requires multiple visits.

[Artisttyp]

Flying into San Diago tomorrow, going to spend the weekend in Tijuana, Cascadas, anybody else going to be in town and want to hang out and chase women together. I should be at the HK around 5 or 6. Ill be the short pudgy middle aged unempressive looking white guy. White shirt tan pants. If your gong to be in town and see me there stop and say hello.

ChrisChris if I am around the zona at that time I will look for you. I wear a navy blue dickies quilted jacket and carry a black knapsack or fanny back on my back. I'd like to hear some of your travel stories.

Cheers

[Artisttyp]

I have been studying Tijuana for a while now. I am still learning but my take on GFE here is :

It is possible. How? You become a regular visitor AND YOU ARENT CHEAP when buying ficha drinks. If anything the chica knows that you are always good for a drink. On the occasion you do take her upstairs she will remember that and obviously most barriers have already been worked through.

Some of these girls like to drink more than they like earning money. Working in a club sober for 8 hrs a day is a bore. I've done it and it isn't fun watching other people have fun when you arent. They can't afford to buy them for themselves. YOU become the savior for getting them through a day at the office. If you know some spanish even better so it doesn't ruin their buzz when they are trying to decipher your english into spanish.

Lone mongers who come into town for a few days now and then will not have the greatest luck but obviously being overly generous with ficha drinks can put you in a better position.

[RomanyStar]

I have been studying Tijuana for a while now. I am still learning but my take on GFE here is :

It is possible. How? You become a regular visitor AND YOU ARENT CHEAP when buying ficha drinks. If anything the chica knows that you are always good for a drink. On the occasion you do take her upstairs she will remember that and obviously most barriers have already been worked through.

Some of these girls like to drink more than they like earning money. Working in a club sober for 8 hrs a day is a bore. I've done it and it isn't fun watching other people have fun when you arent. They can't afford to buy them for themselves. YOU become the savior for getting them through a day at the office. If you know some spanish even better so it doesn't ruin their buzz when they are trying to decipher your english into spanish.

Lone mongers who come into town for a few days now and then will not have the greatest luck but obviously being overly generous with ficha drinks can put you in a better position.I rarely buy drinks. I tip dancers, I tip those that come to me for a feel, and I occasionally do a private dance.

I speak pretty passable Spanish, and make it clear that I'm not interested in a half hour upstairs. I go for a minimum of three hours at Premier, but try for an overnight at a high end hotel. I let them know how hot I think they are, and that I want to make it a romantic evening. Ask about their kids, their home. Get a phone number. Texting is the norm.

I try to schedule in the next couple days when they have a night off. Pricing is usually 200-300 for 7PM to 7AM. Works out to cheaper than the alley. I always show up with a little gift bag from Victoria's Secret, and chocolates. I'll take them for dinner if all is going well.

This works sometimes and not others, one of my HK favorites just won't see me outside the club. I've been in and out of TJ for thirty years, pretty active for the past couple years, and have had this turn into some amazing evenings. Currently have a half dozen I can call for all nighters, but tend to not repeat often to avoid too strong a connection on either of our parts.

Latin ladies are romantics, even those working in the Zona, use it to your advantage.

If this is too much work for you call Mundo or Tanya, they both have fair prices for GFE girls.

[Sunset Strip]

Dude you just repeated what I said! I think you were just trying to be contrary but if you read my post again, I said exactly what you repeat. Your first paragraph merely states in other words what I said about prostitution being technically illegal except in certain zones.

Your words:

"That's why, in Tijuana for instance, you see most of it happening in the Zona Norte, or zone of tolerance. You can have chicas standing on the street, going shh, shh, and all that goes with it. It's been zoned to this area and, at least officially, not permitted elsewhere. However, there are still laws forbidding brothels and pimping. That's why you have to exit a bar and walk on the street (even a few feet) to get to the hotel. And also why in-house escort places don't advertise their locations."

Exact same thing! We all know this already!

Dude I am decades long veteran of Tijuana!

Then you go on to state that there has never been a vacation, GFE, long term sort of environment in Tijuana. THAT IS WHAT I SAID! MY POINT WAS THAT Tijuana SHOULD CHANGE!

"Tijuana has evolved as it has, IMHO, due to its proximity to the USA, and its traditional "use" as a spot to briefly escape idiotic regulation in the USA, such as Prohibition. It's never really been a vacation destination (I'm not sure how many border towns truly are) , and the prototypical customer tended to be a gringo who popped over the border for some cheap booze and quickie sex. I don't think the market for long-time GFE-type services really ever existed in Tijuana. You can get it, but it's a lot more work, and requires multiple visits"

DUDE! PLEASE!

Ss.

SS.


Au contraire, mon frere.

It is legal in MX, however it is regulated and regulations tend to vary from state to state.

That's why, in Tijuana for instance, you see most of it happening in the Zona Norte, or zone of tolerance. You can have chicas standing on the street, going shh, shh, and all that goes with it. It's been zoned to this area and, at least officially, not permitted elsewhere. However, there are still laws forbidding brothels and pimping. That's why you have to exit a bar and walk on the street (even a few feet) to get to the hotel. And also why in-house escort places don't advertise their locations.

Tijuana has evolved as it has, IMHO, due to its proximity to the USA, and its traditional "use" as a spot to briefly escape idiotic regulation in the USA, such as Prohibition. It's never really been a vacation destination (I'm not sure how many border towns truly are) , and the prototypical customer tended to be a gringo who popped over the border for some cheap booze and quickie sex. I don't think the market for long-time GFE-type services really ever existed in Tijuana. You can get it, but it's a lot more work, and requires multiple visits.

[Sunset Strip]

Do not do this again!

If you want to try to bully me, then we can settle this easily. Otherwise leave me alone!

SS


au contraire, mon frere.

It is legal in mx, however it is regulated and regulations tend to vary from state to state.

That's why, in tijuana for instance, you see most of it happening in the zona norte, or zone of tolerance. You can have chicas standing on the street, going shh, shh, and all that goes with it. It's been zoned to this area and, at least officially, not permitted elsewhere. However, there are still laws forbidding brothels and pimping. That's why you have to exit a bar and walk on the street (even a few feet) to get to the hotel. And also why in-house escort places don't advertise their locations.

Tijuana has evolved as it has, imho, due to its proximity to the usa, and its traditional "use" as a spot to briefly escape idiotic regulation in the usa, such as prohibition. It's never really been a vacation destination (i'm not sure how many border towns truly are) , and the prototypical customer tended to be a gringo who popped over the border for some cheap booze and quickie sex. I don't think the market for long-time gfe-type services really ever existed in tijuana. You can get it, but it's a lot more work, and requires multiple visits.

[Sunset Strip]

I have been studying Tijuana for a while now. I am still learning but my take on GFE here is :

It is possible. How? You become a regular visitor AND YOU ARENT CHEAP when buying ficha drinks. If anything the chica knows that you are always good for a drink. On the occasion you do take her upstairs she will remember that and obviously most barriers have already been worked through.

Some of these girls like to drink more than they like earning money. Working in a club sober for 8 hrs a day is a bore. I've done it and it isn't fun watching other people have fun when you arent. They can't afford to buy them for themselves. YOU become the savior for getting them through a day at the office. If you know some spanish even better so it doesn't ruin their buzz when they are trying to decipher your english into spanish.

Lone mongers who come into town for a few days now and then will not have the greatest luck but obviously being overly generous with ficha drinks can put you in a better position.I agree. Living in SOCAL for years has allowed me to become a known quantity in Tijuana. Once the girls know you they treat you better. But it took over a decade to get this treatment.

The other thing was I had to learn to take them or leave them. My main girl used to try to treat me like a regular trick at times. I actually ignored her for about four years. Now remember I was in Tijuana at least twice a week for the last 12 years, so she had to take this embarrassment for years. It takes time and like a real relationship you both have to give a little.

I actually get GFE in Tijuana from two chicas. In fact, I am so well known that I can actually show up prior to a certain street girl's arrival, pay at the desk, and just chill in a room until she gets there. And in another hotel, I just show up, plop down $3 and they will actually go down the block and get"my" girl. I have not had a knock on the door at either of these hotels in over five years. When I am done, I am done.

And the girls give total GFE in the room.

The downside, if there is one, is that in Tijuana few chicas bother me on the street. They all know I am "with" somebody.

We need to remember that Mexican women are VERY loyal. Even though these are hookers they have that loyal quality and appreciate it in us. The California Prison guards always marvel at how Mexican American women visit their imprisoned man not matter how long he is locked up. No other group is that loyal, they say. As the saying goes, a Mexican won't divorce you, she might KILL you, but she will not divorce you!

P. S. Another good thing about being a known quantity in Tijuana is that the girl drops her guard and you get a good look at her. When I show up early for my main girl, they send her straight to see me. No makeup, no high heeled shoes, etc. Just her in all her natural beauty. GFE all the way. No hooker attire, she saves that for other guys!

SS

[Phordphan]

Do not do this again!

If you want to try to bully me, then we can settle this easily. Otherwise leave me alone!

SSNobody flamed you, asswipe. Re-read the post and you'll find no flame or otherwise insulting words.

You specifically stated that prostutution is illegal in MX, when, in fact, it's not. Put down the bong, sober up and enroll in some remedial reading courses.

You may also be surprised that others read this forum. So, perhaps there is something in my posts that others may find useful. If you do not, please don't read them, or put me on your ignore list.

I fully confess that you have brass balls far larger than mine, and are the toughest dude behind a keyboard in all of SoCal. So, now that honor is satisfied, keep your machismo to yourself. This board is no place for it.

[HorseTrader]

The following text is from Wikipedia:

"Prostitution in Mexico is legal, but the laws vary by state; 18 of the 32 states of Mexico regulate prostitution. Prostitution involving minors under 18 is illegal, but such activities are common and represent a serious problem. Some Mexican cities have enacted tolerance zones which allow regulated prostitution and function as red light districts. In most parts of the country pimping is illegal. The government provides shelter for former prostitutes."

Take it for what it is worth.

For the last 2 weeks I've been working near San Diego and making almost daily trips to the zone. Today I make my last trip into Tijuana before I head east where the choices are far more limited. In a day or two I'll post a summary report of my recent experiences.

[Sunset Strip]

First let me state that the Ph. Guy merely restated what I said. Not one of you seems to get it that I am using a different definition of legality, one that is more correct. So it is a bit overboard to keep Trying to prove me incorrect by saying the same things I said. Did I ever say prostitution was not allowed anywhere in Mexico?

Yes, as I said it is Technically illegal. Lots of guys in the Nevada jails right now who read that prostitution is legal there. For those schooled in the law, anytime something is not openly tolerated, then it is Technically illegal. In Mexico prostitution is tolerated only in certain zones. That is not anywhere close to making it definitionally legal for anybody schooled in law.

So let's say prostitution is totally legal in Mexico. Does anything I ever said have to be changed? NO.

Prostitution is legal in brazil, for example. That means you can solicite for sex anywhere. Just watch an episode of Cops set in Vegas. They always laugh about tourist thinking it is legal when it is not. But according to the broad wiki definition it is legal since it is allowed in certain zones.

And for what it is worth, wiki is not considered a quality source of information. Use it with caution.

[Michi T]

It took me a few years to hone my skills and learn to speak Spanish fluently, but now I get GFE 9 times out of 10 in the zona. I think the zona knows that GFE will get more guys to stay in Tijuana but the guys don't know how to get it!Where in the zona can one find girls? I am staying at the Marriott hotel and there is absolutely no girl around.

[Member #4728]

But I was actually talking in terms of comparison with the DR, Brazil, and a few other places in latin America, where guys hang out with girls, stay in relatively cheap apartments, get all night at a good rate (about what we pay for an hour in Tijuana). In the DR and Brazil you can walk down the street holding hands with girls, grab dinner in their "zona". There are discos where you can go and hang out with girls (not strip bars). You can take girls to the movies, etc.

SSHello sunset.

Your posts are always interesting.

Have an opinion about the old comments of sgt perv that he had easily TLN with sg alley for 1000 pesos?

I am local and I've tried only 3 hours (GFE) by 600-700 pesos and about 30 paraditas only 4 were accepted (none of the alley) I think it would be very difficult for me to get TLN for 1000 pesos.

Regards

[Member #4728]

But I was actually talking in terms of comparison with the DR, Brazil, and a few other places in latin America, where guys hang out with girls, stay in relatively cheap apartments, get all night at a good rate (about what we pay for an hour in Tijuana). In the DR and Brazil you can walk down the street holding hands with girls, grab dinner in their "zona". There are discos where you can go and hang out with girls (not strip bars). You can take girls to the movies, etc.

Some guys do all of this in Tijuana SSHi Sunset.

Your posts are always interesting for me.

What is your opinion about the old perv sgt comments that said that he would get sg TLN of the alley for 1000 pesos,

I'm local and I tried to get only 3 hours with some GFE for 600-700 pesos. I asked about 30-40 paraditas and only 4-5 girls have accepted. (non of the alley)

I think it would be very difficult for me to get a TLN for 1000 pesos. Maybe sgt perv is very handsome.

Regards

[KC Questor]

Best bet: Walk across the border, grab a yellow cab 50 mts in front of the gate, go DIRECTLY to the Hong Kong Club. 10 minute ride for $5, pay $50 for a VIP card at the HK front desk, then walk right upstairs to the Cascadas Hotel, get a regular room for about $40, Jaccuzi suite for $65, nicer and cleaner than the Ticuan. It is the only place the HK girls are allowed to go, AND you can enter with any s / g, who will think you area high class guy for not making her go in the stinky $5 room. The place was completely remodeled over 5mm a yr ago and most of these cheapskates you are talking to won't spring for an extra $20 for the nice rooms, LOL.

The jacuzzi suites are on the higher floors, very little noise from the club below. Great restaurants on the street, clean food, room service, if you are coming from out of town why fuck around to save $20? You got everything there on ONE BLOCK. Check out the pic of the room with the champagne and jacuzzi that's the actual room = $85 MINUS 20% for the VIP card. $20 higher Friday Saturday, Immaculate and safe, and you don't have to go gallivanting around in taxis. The street girls stand right outside the door to the Cascadas. After a coupla nights there, WITH 200+ to choose from within 100 mts of your room, you will know the whole area, have lots of friends, and THEN you may decide to try somewhere else.Great post, man! My last trip to Tijuana was well before the post-9/11 security issues and I never had any problem staying in San Ysidro or Chula Vista, but your guide makes a lot of sense. Some questions:

1) Should I make a reservation at Hotel Cascadas? I'll be there on a Friday night. I don't mind the surcharge for a Friday but I don't want to be stranded without a hotel.

2) You mention other hotels in the area. Are there any that you'd recommend as backups? A lot of people talk about the Ticuan, but it looks to be quite a bit away from the Zona.

3) You said there is no problem taking street girls to the Cascada. What about girls from other clubs? Will Adelita or Chicago girls go there?

[Keg]

El café del descafeinado está en la olla anaranjada.

[Joe Arturo]

Where in the zona can one find girls? I am staying at the Marriott hotel and there is absolutely no girl around.The Marriot Hotel is not in the zona!

[Bluat]

Great post, man! My last trip to Tijuana was well before the post-9/11 security issues and I never had any problem staying in San Ysidro or Chula Vista, but your guide makes a lot of sense. Some questions:

1) Should I make a reservation at Hotel Cascadas? I'll be there on a Friday night. I don't mind the surcharge for a Friday but I don't want to be stranded without a hotel.

2) You mention other hotels in the area. Are there any that you'd recommend as backups? A lot of people talk about the Ticuan, but it looks to be quite a bit away from the Zona.

3) You said there is no problem taking street girls to the Cascada. What about girls from other clubs? Will Adelita or Chicago girls go there?I'm in the Zona right now for the first time and staying in the Cascadas.

1) The hotel is not bad. I wouldn't mistake it for a Ritz or even a Hilton, but overall it's clean and comfortable. There's no temperature gauge so it gets kind of hot after a hot shower and a hot dip in the jacuzzi. You'll need to crack open a small window located above head level facing the hallway. The music is loud downstairs and it starts around 7 am until maybe 5 am. I'm not sure since I'm asleep during some of those times. Definitely get a room on the top floors. Even floor 3 isn't high enough (that's my floor).

2) Not sure what it is like at the Ticuan, but it's a good walk from the Zona, and frankly I don't want to stray too far from the Zona. Even though Tijuana is right across the border it's still like the Mexican ghettos in the states. And do you feel safe walking through your local Mexican neighborhood?

3) I've aked a couple of Adelita girls but they refused me. Said they can only use the Adilta's hotel. Not sure about the other clubs but probably the same.

[Dcell75]

3) I've aked a couple of Adelita girls but they refused me. Said they can only use the Adilta's hotel. Not sure about the other clubs but probably the same.The girls from Hong Kong use Cascadas. I'm sure they'll go up with you.

[Kooloo23]

This is probably a bad question but why does no one mention Hotel Coahuila? I tried Googling for some info but couldn't find anything.

Is it strictly for the girls to use?

Thanks

[Psychman]

The Marriot Hotel is not in the zona!What the responder I am sure meant to say is that it is IS in the zona, but ZONA RIO, not Zona Norte. Zona Rio is a business district with great resteraunts and "normal" bars and clubs- you won't find working girls there. That said, it is not an expensive taxi to the Zona Norte, and frankly nice to stay somewhere quiet and out of the action. If you want someone coming to your hotel, I have had great luck with www.adultbaja.com. I have been with four or five chicas from there over the years, and all have been great GFEs (well, one was average, the others have been great).160 for two hours for many of the chicas- not cheap, but not awful if you are not spending money on drinks in the club and get multiple shots.

[Keg]

This is probably a bad question but why does no one mention Hotel Coahuila? I tried Googling for some info but couldn't find anything.

Is it strictly for the girls to use?

ThanksKooloo,

It's a normal question, Hotel Coahuila doesn't seem to get much mention because it's just a basic hotel that services Adelita Bar primarily. From the bar you step outside and then up the stairs to get a short-term room use typically. You can get a room for the entire night for yourself, they are very basic rooms, no frills, and makes sense if you plan to only pull in chicas from Adelita. If you want to go to other bars for chicas, you won't be able to bring them up to your room. If you want a nicer hotel for a weekend there are better options. If you just want a place that is basic and convenient to chill in-between sessions, it's not bad, but you'll only get to bring Adelita chicas up to your room. Of course you will want to tip the room cleaners after every chica session so you can get new bed sheets and towels.

[Psychman]

I'm in the Zona right now for the first time and staying in the Cascadas.

1) The hotel is not bad. I wouldn't mistake it for a Ritz or even a Hilton, but overall it's clean and comfortable. There's no temperature gauge so it gets kind of hot after a hot shower and a hot dip in the jacuzzi. You'll need to crack open a small window located above head level facing the hallway. The music is loud downstairs and it starts around 7 am until maybe 5 am. I'm not sure since I'm asleep during some of those times. Definitely get a room on the top floors. Even floor 3 isn't high enough (that's my floor).

2) Not sure what it is like at the Ticuan, but it's a good walk from the Zona, and frankly I don't want to stray too far from the Zona. Even though Tijuana is right across the border it's still like the Mexican ghettos in the states. And do you feel safe walking through your local Mexican neighborhood?

3) I've aked a couple of Adelita girls but they refused me. Said they can only use the Adilta's hotel. Not sure about the other clubs but probably the same.The area around the Ticuan is nothing like a "Ghetto," and only takes a few minutes by taxi. Frankly, I far prefer to stay there where it is quiet than the zona- no problem bringing chicas back as well. Great place with great service. Also, have you been to the Zona Rio or other middle class areas of Tijuana? I don't think so, or you would not make this statement. Also, many Mexican neighborhoods in the states are safer than many white neighborhoods (in my city, the statistics support my point across crime type). Stereotypes are the enemy of good information.

In case you don't believe me about the Zona Rio, try La Differencia for amazing haute Mexican cuisine or Cheripan, a very nice Argentine steak house (great wine selection from Chile and Argentine). Have cognac or cocktail and flirt with the wealthy hotties there and then me it is all a ghetto.

[Magic Rancher]

Kooloo,

It's a normal question, Hotel Coahuila doesn't seem to get much mention because it's just a basic hotel that services Adelita Bar primarily. From the bar you step outside and then up the stairs to get a short-term room use typically. You can get a room for the entire night for yourself, they are very basic rooms, no frills, and makes sense if you plan to only pull in chicas from Adelita. If you want to go to other bars for chicas, you won't be able to bring them up to your room. If you want a nicer hotel for a weekend there are better options. If you just want a place that is basic and convenient to chill in-between sessions, it's not bad, but you'll only get to bring Adelita chicas up to your room. Of course you will want to tip the room cleaners after every chica session so you can get new bed sheets and towels.I've stayed at Hotel Rizo De Oro, Hotel Cascadas and Hotel Hacienda de Santiago, but haven't overnighted at Hotel Coahuila. I also didn't see any webpage for this hotel. Do you know their rates for overnight, weekdays or weekends? Extra fees for more than one chica? Thank you for any additional information.

[Reinaldo]

Even though Tijuana is right across the border it's still like the Mexican ghettos in the states. Probably one of the most ignorant/clueless posts ever on the site.

[HorseTrader]

I just finished a 2-week work assignment near San Diego, which left me plenty of time for many visits to the zona. My visits to Tijuana were usually between about 4:00 PM and about 10:00 PM. I had multiple encounters with bar girls, street girls and escorts. I didn't try any of the massage places this trip.

Street Girls. Most of the girls that were on the streets this trip were also available during my last visits (November 2011 and January 2012). Not enough new talent. The prices may be a little bit lower now than last November, the most I paid was 300 MX for a terrible sin ropa experience with Kenya. All other girls asked for 20 US but accepted 200 MX for sin ropa. They definately understand that 200 MX is less than 20 US. I experienced about 10 street grils, all were the typical quickie experiences that are so common. Nothing was close to GFE. My prior trips somtimes got better results with street girls.

Street Girl Kenya. I mentioned this in another post, but I'll avoid Kenya in the future (west end of alley on the north side). Totally hot looking, but another monger's cum came dripping out of her pussy during my session. I don't ever want to see that again. All of my other street girl experiences were OK by SG standards.

School Girls. Every trip I make there seem to be fewer and fewer of the school girls at their standard corner. In past years I might see 8-10 of them together, this trip I never saw more than 3 or 4 and often there were none. That group used to get some of the hottest cuties but they now seem to be older and heavier. They still seem to be among the most aggressive in the zone.

Talent at AB, HK, and LC. I didn't see much change in AB or HK. Perhaps there are a few less girls available at AB than a few months ago, and maybe their average quality has gone down a bit. I couldn't see any change in HK, the place is still overloaded with young hotties. The difference was LC, which had more girls available and of a better quality than a few months ago. One day (maybe April 25?) they had about triple the number of girls that I had ever seen there before, and, they tended to be younger and hotter than normal LC girls. I think there was some sort of anniversay celebration happening but I don't know exactly what it was. Other days at LC were not that great, but better than in past months.

Prices. I think prices are a little lower now than a few months ago. In the past I always found several bar girls who insisted on 80 US, this trip there was only one girl who wouldn't go arriba for 60 US. She was very young and sexy and probably could have gotten more money from another visitor. I think the street prices tended a bit lower now than a few months ago.

Counterfit US Cash. I normally exchange money on the US side, but forgot to do it one trip. I went through the turnstile on the right and across to the currency excahange to the right. I didn't read too well and found myself asking the electronics shop attendant to exchange my 5 $20 bills for pesos. She tried to pass a Xerox copy of a $100 US bill to me. This copy looked so bad that no US citizen would have accepted it, I can only suspect that it was made to pass to Mexicans when they are trying to exchange MX for US.

No More Pesos for Me. I think I'm done exchanging my dollars for pesos. Everybody knows the exchange rate isn't 10:1. I don't save enough money by using pesos to justify the headaches in making the exchange and carrying two currencies.

GFE with Bar Girls. Over my 10+ visits, I successfully received GFE three times. Once with a girl from Hong Kong and twice with girls from LC. I think the pre-arriba drink is the best way to tell if GFE will be available. I'm also convinced that chances are better at LC than at HK or AB. Of course, the average girl at LC isn't nearly has hot as the average girls at HK or AB, but I have to say that the best LC girls looked really good to me.

Bar Girl Phone Numbers. Of my 3-GFE encounters, two of the girls gave me their telephone numbers without me asking. I don't know why, they both knew that I live very far away. I can't remember the last time this has happened to me in Tijuana. I have no idea what to do with those numbers, but I have them.

Escorts. I had my first two Tijuana escort experiences. Both met me at Ticuan and looked just like their photographs. Both provided GFE. But neither really turned me on like their pictures. After paying for the hotel, escort fees, and taxi, each one of these escorts cost me over 200 US. It just wasn't worth the extra time and money compared to a bar girl.

Border Lines. Worst case line was 1 hour and 5 minutes, best case line was no wait at all (walk right up to the agent and hand him the passport). Half the trips I only had to wait about 10 minutes.

Police. Twice I watched police run out of their trucks and immediatly (and aggressively) arrest someone. The other people on the street just ignored what was happening, I guess this sort of arrest is common.

There is probably no new information to most of the readers, but that's all I really have to say.

Horsetrader

[Guitarrefreak]

A pleasant light-hearted read, nice to see the break down on your experiences, what I would regard as a "fair and balanced" report.

I should start doing this again myself.

Just in case it was too obvious that I didn't catch it, what is LC?


I just finished a 2-week work assignment near San Diego, which left me plenty of time for many visits to the zona. My visits to Tijuana were usually between about 4:00 PM and about 10:00 PM. I had multiple encounters with bar girls, street girls and escorts. I didn't try any of the massage places this trip.

Horsetrader

[HorseTrader]

Just in case it was too obvious that I didn't catch it, what is LC?Damn, I was afraid someone would ask that question. LC is Las Chavelas. I didn't know how to spell it and I was just too lazy to look it up. My best memories are of the girls of Las Chavelas.

Glad you appreciated the report.

[Sock111]

There is probably no new information to most of the readers, but that's all I really have to say.

HorsetraderThere is plenty of good information, if anything, its good to see updates to what has or has not changed. I'm surprised about the $60 rate you were getting at HK. Although I go there frequently I have regulars I take up and haven't had to negotiate a price in a while. A few months ago every girl was trying to get $80. I'm guessing that didn't work out too well for them.

[Bluat]

There is plenty of good information, if anything, its good to see updates to what has or has not changed. I'm surprised about the $60 rate you were getting at HK. Although I go there frequently I have regulars I take up and haven't had to negotiate a price in a while. A few months ago every girl was trying to get $80. I'm guessing that didn't work out too well for them.$80 is what I'm getting. Maybe there are some cheaper ones but none that I've asked has said $60. I even asked the waiter whom I've been showering with tips so he tells me all the ins and outs. He told me $80 is the average rate for as long as he's been there (since December) and he doubts its going to change since 90% of the customers are US citizens and they gladly pay that. And I doubt the locals are getting a different rate. I haven't tried negotiating yet.

[HorseTrader]

A few months ago every girl was trying to get $80. I'm guessing that didn't work out too well for them.That's exactly what I experienced a few months ago. This trip most of the girls were only asking for $60 and the ones that asked $80 would agree to $60. Perhaps I was coming at off-peak times or perhaps I just looked and acted right to these girls. I was asking only the girls that looked and acted the sexiest to me, so I wasn't dealing with the 2nd tier girls. I think the girl prices are a little lower now than they were 6 months ago.

[Bluat]

$80 is what I'm getting. Maybe there are some cheaper ones but none that I've asked has said $60. I even asked the waiter whom I've been showering with tips so he tells me all the ins and outs. He told me $80 is the average rate for as long as he's been there (since December) and he doubts its going to change since 90% of the customers are US citizens and they gladly pay that. And I doubt the locals are getting a different rate.I forgot to mention that $80 was for HK. For Adelita I'm not sure. There was a guy from AD, I believe he's an AD promoter, that said AD girls are cheaper then HK girls and only cost $60. I can't really confirm because the one AD girl I took up cost me about $1400 pesos between the drinks, and upselling. I'm a little iffy on the upselling. On the one hand I hate promoting such behavoir, but on the other hand where else in the US can you get a hot girl that will french kiss, DATY, BBBJ, and then swallow your cum.

[Keg]

but on the other hand where else in the US can you get a hot girl that will french kiss, DATY, BBBJ, and then swallow your cum.. That's just what the Secret Service guys said.

[Sunset Strip]

Somebody just stated that,"they definately understand that 200 MX is less than 20 US."

Disclaimer: not a flame.

This is quite true. But, as I have always stated to SGs, what does that matter to YOU, YOU live in Mexico, not the USA. I have never truly understood why guys worry about whether girls realize you are getting a bargain (now) by paying in pesos. Would she rather get 0 from you, or the 100-150 pesos she is going to get from a Mexican? I doubt it. It is only a temporary thing that the Mexican peso is so devalued versus the dollar. The peso is normally 10:1 and we have always paid in pesos or dollars assuming the 10:1 rate. Just because it is 12 or 13 to 1 does not mean the girl is affected in any way. What, because you gave her what amounts to 16 American dollars rather than 20, SHE is somehow hurt? Please! The long term SGs love that the dollar is more than the peso (over 10 for those who understand) , because they know we will gladly give them 200 pesos! Mexican guys are paying a lot less.

I have seen this attitude towards gringos paying in pesos with guys I go down with. Usually, the guy has talked to me previously and kept asking if she would take 200 pesos. What I assume is that guys are in the room acting nervous, acting as if they are getting over, etc, and the girls pick up on it.

Trust me a Mexican giving a SG 200 pesos would be placed on the treated like royalty. It is gringo guilt the girls are playing upon. Please, remember guys that these girls are "connected" to somebody. They are told to "play" gringos. She is "acting" the "disappointed" role over the 200 pesos to try to get more (because that pimp novio of hers is going to take most of it anyway).

Give the SGs 200 pesos and know that you have overpaid!

SS

[Bluat]

Somebody just stated that,"they definately understand that 200 MX is less than 20 US."

Disclaimer: not a flame.

This is quite true. But, as I have always stated to SGs, what does that matter to YOU, YOU live in Mexico, not the USA. I have never truly understood why guys worry about whether girls realize you are getting a bargain (now) by paying in pesos. Would she rather get 0 from you, or the 100-150 pesos she is going to get from a Mexican? I doubt it. It is only a temporary thing that the Mexican peso is so devalued versus the dollar. The peso is normally 10:1 and we have always paid in pesos or dollars assuming the 10:1 rate. Just because it is 12 or 13 to 1 does not mean the girl is affected in any way. What, because you gave her what amounts to 16 American dollars rather than 20, SHE is somehow hurt? Please! The long term SGs love that the dollar is more than the peso (over 10 for those who understand) , because they know we will gladly give them 200 pesos! Mexican guys are paying a lot less.

I have seen this attitude towards gringos paying in pesos with guys I go down with. Usually, the guy has talked to me previously and kept asking if she would take 200 pesos. What I assume is that guys are in the room acting nervous, acting as if they are getting over, etc, and the girls pick up on it.

Trust me a Mexican giving a SG 200 pesos would be placed on the treated like royalty. It is gringo guilt the girls are playing upon. Please, remember guys that these girls are "connected" to somebody. They are told to "play" gringos. She is "acting" the "disappointed" role over the 200 pesos to try to get more (because that pimp novio of hers is going to take most of it anyway).

Give the SGs 200 pesos and know that you have overpaid!

SSThat's 200 pesos for pussy pounding for 20 minutes only right? As for the bar girl one of them actually pulled out a calculator and multiplied 12.5 times $80.

[Sunset Strip]

That's 200 pesos for pussy pounding for 20 minutes only right? As for the bar girl one of them actually pulled out a calculator and multiplied 12.5 times $80.WOW. She was serious about her money to pull out a calculator. LOL.

But then again, the same principle applies. What does it really matter TO HER that YOU are paying LESS in YOUR dollars by using pesos?

She lives in Mexico and the peso is the peso. They are only doing all of this out of anger that they know you are getting over. But

How are you cheating them? You are not. A few years ago 800 pesos was ok and it hurt your wallet. Now that the dollar is stronger than the the peso (but cost of living in Tijuana is still cost of living in Tijuana) they want you to hand over more! Why? The Mexicans guys don't pay more!

SS

P.S.

An interesting sidenote is the situation in Brazil. That nation has now surpassed certain European nations economically (8th largest world economy surpassing the UK earlier this year).
Back in the early 2000s girls were pulling that "this is not much money" when we paid them 120R all night (about 30US). Well, now that their money is almost even with the US dollar do you think they help us out. NOOOOOOOOO! All of that monitoring the exchange rate crap went out the window now that Americans are hurting financially. It is all part of their game!

[Ninguno Especial]

That's 200 pesos for pussy pounding for 20 minutes only right? As for the bar girl one of them actually pulled out a calculator and multiplied 12.5 times $80.Damn! Just tell the ***** you ALREADY KNOW what the conversion rate is and that the going price for locals is 300 to 500 pesos maximum. IMO anyone paying even 600 pesos and for sure $60 USD is not negotiating properly especially if he has already spent from $8 to $18 on a drink or 2 (incl tip).

When guys don't negotiate and just lay down and let the chicas walk on them it encourages them to keep asking outrageous (for MEXICO) amounts. I've done my share of chicas in both AB & HK for 500 pesos and several (once I was a regular) for 400 pesos (30 min.) or 600 to 800 for an hour. I'm talking upper tier chicas too.

[Sunset Strip]

Damn! Just tell the * you ALREADY KNOW what the conversion rate is and that the going price for locals is 300 to 500 pesos maximum. IMO anyone paying even 600 pesos and for sure $60 USD is not negotiating properly especially if he has already spent from $8 to $18 on a drink or 2 (incl tip).

When guys don't negotiate and just lay down and let the chicas walk on them it encourages them to keep asking outrageous (for MEXICO) amounts. I've done my share of chicas in both AB & HK for 500 pesos and several (once I was a regular) for 400 pesos (30 min.) or 600 to 800 for an hour. I'm talking upper tier chicas too.Good points. The chica's job is to run game on guys all day. They KNOW that the exchange rate means NOTHING in reality. I mean what, does the price of a fish taco rise and fall by the minute based on the NYSE ticker tape?

These girls know, and are taught, that many gringos will flinch and give them more money if they start acting as if the dollar-peso difference is somehow hurting them. That is all it is. Now, she can get EVEN more from the gringo than she ever did. And that is the plan. They laugh and tell their friends how the gringo, who she was already charging 200 pesos more than a Mexican anyway, gave her another 50 to 100 pesos just because she used the conversion rate "scam."

And, again, that is the plan. Instead of the gringo asking her why her normal price is so high and bringing it closer to, or at, the Mexican pay level, he is now made to feel he OWES her more because the dollar is stronger today (according to the Wall Street Journal. LOL. Do chicas have stock portfolios to go with their business calculators).

SS.

SS

[Duke Of Pussy]

For those of you who advocate the overnight hotel Cascadas strategy:

Is the wifi connection decent?

Are previous reports of a lack of accessible power outlets in the rooms true?

Do the TVs get US channels?

Safes in the Jacuzzi rooms or others beside the master suite? And overall, are items that aren't too valuable but I prefer not to lose safe? I. E. An old laptop.

Thanks. I need some connection to the outside world for work and entertainment between the frequent motorboating of hot young asses and relieving the resulting tension.

[Chris Long]

For those of you who advocate the overnight hotel Cascadas strategy:

Is the wifi connection decent?

Are previous reports of a lack of accessible power outlets in the rooms true?

Do the TVs get US channels?

Safes in the Jacuzzi rooms or others beside the master suite? And overall, are items that aren't too valuable but I prefer not to lose safe? I. E. An old laptop.

Thanks. I need some connection to the outside world for work and entertainment between the frequent motorboating of hot young asses and relieving the resulting tension.Just got back from a three night stay at Cascadas. I stay there everytime I go to Tijuana, have never stayed anyplace else.

I brought my lap top and had no problem with the wifi at Cascadas the pass code is 0123456789

I don't know what qualifies as lack of outlets, there were outlets in the room I was able to plug in my lap top and plug my cell phone in, the outlets and location seemed fine to me.

I always book the standard single, tell them you want one on the 6th floor its a lot quiter up there I had no problem with the noise up there, Some of the girls stay up there as well. The rooms arnt bad however there is no safe in the standard single, but I've never had anything ever missing from my room. I felt safe enough to take my work issued lap top with me.

I love the Cascadas I think its the best deal around, if you are going to be a high volume user of HK girls and street girls the room practicly pays for itself. You avoid the $15 dollar room fee per HK girl and just about every street girl will agree to go back to your room at the Cascadas which avoids the $5 to $6 street girl room fee, and if the two of you hit it off the girl may stay in your room for a few hours. I had one last night I picked up at Hk around 3 in the morning and she ended up staying and talking until 5 in the morning.

Hope this helps.

Chris

[Duke Of Pussy]

Just got back from a three night stay at Cascadas. I stay there everytime I go to Tijuana, have never stayed anyplace else.

I brought my lap top and had no problem with the wifi at Cascadas the pass code is 0123456789

I don't know what qualifies as lack of outlets, there were outlets in the room I was able to plug in my lap top and plug my cell phone in, the outlets and location seemed fine to me.

I always book the standard single, tell them you want one on the 6th floor its a lot quiter up there I had no problem with the noise up there, Some of the girls stay up there as well. The rooms arnt bad however there is no safe in the standard single, but I've never had anything ever missing from my room. I felt safe enough to take my work issued lap top with me.

I love the Cascadas I think its the best deal around, if you are going to be a high volume user of HK girls and street girls the room practicly pays for itself. You avoid the $15 dollar room fee per HK girl and just about every street girl will agree to go back to your room at the Cascadas which avoids the $5 to $6 street girl room fee, and if the two of you hit it off the girl may stay in your room for a few hours. I had one last night I picked up at Hk around 3 in the morning and she ended up staying and talking until 5 in the morning.

Hope this helps.

ChrisThanks for the great info. Everything is what I wanted to hear.

[Bluat]

So I will say this about the Zona Norte, it's not the safest place in the world but doesn't feel like the most dangerous either. I'm not going to be like some people here and say you have nothing to worry about because during this weekend I did see some things that didn't look right.

I mean how safe can one place be when there is a drug dealer literally out in the middle of the side walk handing out dope in the middle of the street to a line of customers like it was candy. This wasn't a back alley or any place secluded. It was out in the open with a policeman literally 20 feet away ignoring what was going on.

Another thing I saw when my new amigo showed me Tijuana was somewhere in the Zona Centro some gringo looked like he was getting a shakedown from a policia. The cop was going through his backpack searching for something. I have no clue as to whatever happened to the guy, but I would guess he paid the bribe and moved on.

Other things to look out for is the hustlers. I had some shoe shine guy pull me aside and tell me he'll clean my shoe for $2. I agreed and as soon as he starts cleaning my shoes he goes into a sob story about not having enough money for a hotel room and started begging me for more money to help him out. I stayed quiet the whole time as he was cleaning and whining. At the end I paid him $2 and left. Of course as I'm walking away I hear nothing but "amigo, amigo, please, please." the HK doorman was another hustler. Started telling me some bullshit like it was a $2 tip for the robe. Of course I knew better since all I have been paying is $1. Also watch out for the cleanup cum boys. No problems at HK since I have my own room, but at Adelita once I left the room I had one cum boy that asked for a tip to clean the room, which I payed, and then another cum boy ask for a tip as well. I don't know if this was standard operating procedure at AD's hotel, but I have a feeling I was had this time since at HK only one person cleans up per room. And of course watch out for the girls. Now those hustles are alot more costly. I'm sure we all have a story or two concerning the women.

But overall if you stick with a buddy, don't go looking for trouble, stay within highly populated tourist areas then you should be fine. But you do have to have street smarts otherwise you're not going to make it back to the states fully intact.

[JimmyKienTran]

1. My buddy have a Birth certificate and a California Driver license would he be able to get back in the U. S? He dosnt have a passport, has any of use travel to Tijuana with out a passport recently?

[JPF]

Also watch out for the cleanup cum boys. No problems at HK since I have my own room, but at Adelita once I left the room I had one cum boy that asked for a tip to clean the room, which I payed, and then another cum boy ask for a tip as well. I don't know if this was standard operating procedure at AD's hotel, but I have a feeling I was had this time since at HK only one person cleans up per room.Yes it is SOP for every cum boy you pass at the AB hotel to ask for a tip. But you can't blame them because they may not know if you have been hit up yet and it doesn't hurt to try. Just tell them "I paid the other guy" and they will not hassle you.

[Bluat]

Yes it is SOP for every cum boy you pass at the AB hotel to ask for a tip. But you can't blame them because they may not know if you have been hit up yet and it doesn't hurt to try. Just tell them "I paid the other guy" and they will not hassle you.I can understand that, but this other guy came to me with his palms out before I even fully relenquished my dollar to the first guy.

[HorseTrader]

I can understand that, but this other guy came to me with his palms out before I even fully relenquished my dollar to the first guy.I always leave $1 in the room and then tell the cum boys "the tip is in the room." Never had a problem or tense moment.

[Keg]

Busty hostess steals limelight in Mexico presidential debate:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/world_now/2012/05/mexico-debate-edecan-model-woman-twitter.html

We can learn a lot from the Edecan!

[Phordphan]

1. My buddy have a Birth certificate and a California Driver license would he be able to get back in the U. S? He dosnt have a passport, has any of use travel to Tijuana with out a passport recently?You can get back with just a B / C and a D / L. However, depending on the time of day, you may get stuck in a hellacious line. You have to go into the non-WHTI line if it's open. And you'll get a tongue-lashing from the agent.

Just have your "buddy" get a passport. He'll need it eventually.

[Phordphan]

Damn! Just tell the * you ALREADY KNOW what the conversion rate is and that the going price for locals is 300 to 500 pesos maximum. IMO anyone paying even 600 pesos and for sure $60 USD is not negotiating properly especially if he has already spent from $8 to $18 on a drink or 2 (incl tip).

When guys don't negotiate and just lay down and let the chicas walk on them it encourages them to keep asking outrageous (for MEXICO) amounts. I've done my share of chicas in both AB & HK for 500 pesos and several (once I was a regular) for 400 pesos (30 min.) or 600 to 800 for an hour. I'm talking upper tier chicas too.Amen, brother!

[Chris Long]

flew into san diago to spend cinco de mayo in tijuana.

airport to tijuana:

the san diego airport is very small, slow and easy to navigate. most airlines fly in and out of terminal 2 but it really doesn't matter which terminal it is 1 or 2 the system works the same. once you exit baggage claim go outside and walk to your left there you will find the bus stop. take the 992 bus to the trolley stop. pay the $5 to the bus drive for an all day pass this will allow you to ride the bus and the trolley. the exit i always use is the city college stop. mainly because the others were under construction on my first trip so now this is the one i am used to and use all the time. the bus drivers have always been very friendly and if you tell them you need to take the trolley to san yasidro they will tell you when your stop is and where to find the trolley. once you exit the bus at the city college stop you will see the train tracks and there will be a building in front of you, walk to the other side of the building and there you will find the trolley stop. the train you want is the blue line to san yisidro / tijuana the train itself will be red but it will say san yisidro / tijuana on the front. take the trolley all the way to the boarder, that will be the last stop on the line. the whole trip from bus to trolley to the boarder takes about an hour. once you exit the trolley if you stand facing south on your right hand side you will see a pedestrian bridge, go up the winding walk way to the bridge cross over it on the other side go to your left walk back down the winding walk way follow the side walk past some shops sometimes there will be some usa boarder agents there, they have never stopped me nor have i ever seen them stopping any one. go through some turn styles, this will be mexico, there will be some mexican officials a few solders, i have never been stopped by them or seen them stop anyone. once one of them was asking everyone to push a green go button but that was it. go through a second set of turn styles and then you will see shops people selling things and a lot of yellow taxis. jump in one of the yellow taxis and tell them hong kong club, or where ever it is that you want to go. all taxi drivers know where hong kong is. every taxi driver i ever had could speak basic to decent english. the price will be $5.

when going back the whole things works the same way only in reverse. get a taxi from where ever you are and tell the driver the boarder. i have always used yellow taxis because they were the ones i used on my first trip so now i am used to them. at the boarder there will be people offering to get you through in ten to twenty minutes for anywhere from ten to twenty dollars i have used these services and have also just walked the line. the line itself moves pretty quick there is not a lot of standing around but it is so long that it takes about an hour or more to get through. the shuttle guys sometimes have you just walk past everyone to the front of the line and then have you bud in the line right before it goes into immigration, this was always the fastest way that i've gotten through. sometimes they have you pile into a very full van and drive you across this may be a little faster than the line but still can take as long as forty to forty five minutes some times. the worst part of going to tijuana is the line to get back to the usa side. once you are past immigration and exit the building the trolley will be in front of you it will say old town on the front of it by your ticket from the machine, you cannot buy a day pass so you will have to buy a one way $2. 50 trolley ticket there are usually trolley employs who will be there to answer questions if you are unsure how to purchase the ticket. take the trolley just as you did coming down and the exit i always use is city college. once you exit the trolley do not walk back to the same bus stop that you exited at when you got on the trolley. once you exit the trolley walk towards that bus stop but before you get to it you will see another one on your left that will say 992 on it. this is the bus stop you want, wait for the 992 bus and tell the driver you want a one way ticket to the airport. the price will be $2. 25 you will need the exact amount as the bus driver does not have change.

tijuana & the zone:

tijuana and the zone can be a bit ruff looking and dangerous looking. if you are not used to mexico, this may be a bit of a shock to you. the place you want to go to is the zone, if your sole purpose is mongering there really is no reason to leave the zone and in all of my trips i have never left the zone. the zone is basically one square block filled with bars shops, hole in the wall restaurants, food carts, hawkers, beggars and of course street girls. the bars, and street girls jut off in each direction for a few feet out side of this block. the zone can be a bit dirty looking at first but once you have experienced it, it quickly becomes paradise. the mexican people by in large are good and honest people many of whom have just been put into a shit existence and have to make the best out of it, and you will meet many good people there. however, there are many hucksters, swindlers and just plain thieves and you will have to keep your wits about you use common since and stay away from strangers. do not go down with an attitude do not get to drunk and don't do anything stupid. i have always felt safe in the zone and have never had any problems there, but i have always used common since and stayed away from anything and anyone that didn't look right. police presence is visible and somewhat heavy. i've never been stopped by them harassed or bothered by them at all but i have heard stories from others down there who said they have been stopped for bribes and others down there tell me in all of their travels have never had any problem with them. i've never seen them stop or question any gringos the only people i have ever seen them taking away searching or questioning have been mexican nationals. i personally believe there presence helps to keep the criminal element down and keeps the place safer. the zone runs 24 hours a day 7 days a week and the action really never stops. however, some times are heavier than others and weekends on general seem to be more active then week days. on this trip i notice more people smoking marijuana, as i would walk around the zone there were times i could definitely smell it and even walked past a few of the locals smoking it in the street. there does seem to be some drug dealing going on in what is called the alley, i noticed at certain times of the day people would line up like at a bus stop waiting for a bus and then someone would show up and place little bags in their hands and everyone would start crowding around this individual like male ducks in heat over a female duck trying to get there drugs. once on one of my walk around i naively walked right into the middle of this mealy and saw the individual placing tiny little bags of what looked like a blue substance in their hands. at first i didn't know what was going on then quickly realized that this was some sort of drug distribution and quickly got out of there. these individual were all dirty unclean shabby looking mexican nationals and you should definitely not get involved in any sort of drug activity down there. the majority of the customers in both the clubs and the streets seem to be mexican nationals themselves but there is a decent size crowd of gringos coming across the border from southern california, i did not notice a lot of national or international mongers there most gringos are from southern california. weekdays seem slower in both the streets and the club than weekends so better deals may be available during the week days than on the weekends.

need for spanish:

the zone can easily be handled without any spanish. everyone knows what you are there for. there are enough mexican nationals who know enough english to help you get by. only about 10% of the girls, both street girls and club girls had a decent command of the english language the rest know practically nothing. however, they all know what you are there for and know enough of the sex words and the numbers for the two of you to reach an agreement. the language was never a barrier when arranging a session with the girls.

food:

there are plenty of hole in the wall restaurants, hole in the wall food shops and street carts to eat from. the hole in the wall restaurants are around $5 a meal. i eat exclusively off of the street carts $1 for a taco an oyster, pancake, hot dog and there are guys walking around selling slices of pizza for a $1. i never felt sick but always did have an urgent early morning bowl movement, but apart from that had no problem with the food. i would buy big bottles of fruit juice for a $1 from the hole in the wall shops.

money:

dollars are readily accepted everywhere so there really is no need to exchange to pesos if you do not want to. however, you can quit often get a better deal with the street girls by using pesos. i found many of the club girls knew what the current exchange rate was and would adjust their rates accordingly. there are money exchanges right in the zone with big signs out front and they will be easy to find.

internet:

the hotel i stayed at cascadas had good wireless internet the pass code is 0123456789 there is also an internet spot in the alley cost $1 for the hour i used this on my first trip and the connection was good had no problem.

hotels:

i have always stayed on the tijuana side of the boarder and i have always stayed at the hotel cascadas on all of my trips. this is the hotel that the hong kong girls use and if you are a high volume user of hong kong girls and street girls the hotel can save you money. i've only had two street girls ever refuse to go to my room at the hong kong so it will save you in most cases the $5 to $6 street girl hotel fee and it will save you the $15 dollar charge for bringing up a hong kong girl. so if you are a high volume user the room can actually pay for itself. the benefit of having a room here is that it can save you money, you are right in the heart of the action and if the two of you hit it off the girl may stay and hang out for a few hours. on every one of my trips i have always had at least one girl either a street girl or a hong kong girl that i hit it off with and she ended up staying and hanging out for a couple hours. i have always booked the single double room for $40 on the week days and $50 on the weekend. make sure you get a room on the 6th floor as the rooms on the lower floors can be extremly noisy 24 hours a day. i had a room on the 6th floor and had no problem with the noise. the rooms are clean comfortable, basic, there's no daily maid service but i suppose if you would ask they would send someone to clean the room for a tip. there was no safe in the basic double but in all of my trips i've never had anything stolen and felt my stuff was safe. i even felt safe enough to bring my work issued lap top. there was no remote for the tv but i suppose if you asked they would give you one. the tv channels all seemed to be in spanish and there were some porn channels i didn't search the channels a great deal so i don't know if they have english channels, i did not come to mexico to watch tv or watch porn. i turned the tv to the local music channel and left it there. i found from my experiences in san jose that when the girls come back to your room if you're playing all of the local popular music it seems to put the girls in better more at ease mood.

there are several other hotels in the area but i have never used any of them so can't give you much information on them. the santiago is just a few paces down the street from the zone and can easily be walked day or night. a monger friend i met down there always stays there and he said the rooms are nice and cost around $40 a night but none of the street girls or club girls will go back to your room with you unless they know you well. another hotel that has been talked about in great detail is the ticuan which is a three to four star hotel i believe the basic standard rooms run around $40 to $60 a night another monger friend on my first trip was staying in one of the basic standard room and it was a nice room. however, again none of the street girls and none of the club girls will go back to your room unless they already know you. it is safe to walk to the zone from the ticuan during the day time but you would want to take a cab at night.

massage parlors:

i've never used any of them so i don't have any first had information on them. there is one in the zone one by the hotel ticuan and a few others around. i believe the total price once you pay the door fee and then pay the girl comes out to more than one hundred dollars. not really worth it to me when i could pick up a hong kong girl and an adalita girl for the same price.

escort agencies:

i have never used them so i have no first hand information, but, from what i have been told they are available and will send girls to the ticuan the santiago and some of the other hotels but will not send girls to the cascadas. i have heard they are more gfe, bbbj, daty, and even anal are standard services with many of them. i've heard that they will stay for an hour or two or more and charge one hundred to one hundred and fifty or more. but, again i have never used them so i have no firsthand knowledge of them.

street girls:

the street girls circle all around the block but are concentrated mainly on the side street and the alley, the best ones are found in the alley. they also circle the block next to the zone but these go mainly with the mexican nationals. the street girls range from grandmas to goddesses with everything in between. there are some truly phenomenal street girls available and there are some ugly dirty nasty street girls available. the hot ones will rival anything you can find in the clubs and you will be amazed at the beauty you will find in some of the street girls. the median price for a street girl is $30 for everything fuck and suck a couple even quoted me $20 and a few quoted $40 but when pressed would drop to $30. many will go for 300 pesos which at today's exchange rate is around $25. i found just about every street girl will still use the old 10 to 1 conversion so you can get a better deal with most of the street girls by using pesos. this is not true with the club girls. very, very few street girls will give a bbbj in all of my experiences less than 10% and very, very, very, few will let you go down on them, again less than 10. the street girls all offer the two basics suck and fuck. on this trip i found about 40% of them wanted extra to get completely naked the rest just automatically got completely naked. on my previous trips getting completely naked was never an issue with any of them. almost all of the street girls quote 20 minutes for the time a couple even quoted 15 minutes a couple quoted 25 and many who quoted 20 when i pressed for 25 agreed to it. i never found time to be an issue either i am able to have my fun and finish in the required time or the time limit is not a hard and fast rule with them. i never had any of them tell me my time was up and they were going to leave. they all let me do my thing and finish before they left, but i never abused it or tried to get them to stay there for long periods of time. all of the street girls i had gave me pretty good sex. they all gave good to great blow jobs were all good fucks and all except for one would fuck in whatever positions i wanted. the street girl rooms are around $5 to $6 for 20 minutes. i have only ever used two street girl rooms in all of my trips both times it was more out of curiosity than necessity. the rooms were ok not that bad not that good better than many of the mp and strip club rooms i used in san jose. almost every sg would agree to go back to my room at the hotel cascadas which is right in the middle of the zone and the action. about a quarter of them told me i would still have to pay the room fee or would have to pay for the full half hour with them, which was $40, again when using pesos this was around $35 for the half hour not a bad deal.

a special mention to street girl carla who is one of the very few who will give a bbbj and will let you go down on her and is one of only two girls in all of my trips who would agree to do anal. carla stands on the corner in the alley, if you exit the hong kong club from the alley side she stands across the street from the hk on the corner on your left hand side in front of the marquee i believe its called, i would give her a solid 8 to 9 in looks, if you're looking for anal this is your girl, price for 20 to 25 minutes full service bbbj daty and anal will be 70 usa

hong kong club.

oh my god i love this place. hong kong club truly has to be experienced i think every true monger should do the hong kong club at least once. the first time i walked into this place was like a movie moment, it was the middle of the afternoon i walked in and my jaw dropped i was speechless and could not believe what i was seeing, the dj was playing donnie osmond's puppy love and there were gorgeous beautiful women of every body type swaying around and dancing to the music. i found many of the women to be truly phenomenal, this place can mesmerize you and you will find yourself spending hours in there. the most beautiful women in mexico go to the hong kong club to work. women in the hong kong are available for $80 for the half hour i've had some go as low as $60 and a few even asked for $90 there are some truly beautiful women in there. i've had some great, great services from many of these girls but i have also had a couple of star fish's with professional attitudes, a bbbj is extremely rare with this girls, maybe less than 10% and a tip will be expected after. however from my experienced about 90% of them will agree to let you go down on them. the waiters can be a real pain at times constantly bothering you for tips later at night the waiters aren't as bad but the crowds get much worse. if you see a girl you like you can have the waiter bring her over to you but this will cost you a lady drink which is $9 plus the one dollar tip for the waiter. this allows you to interview the girl find out what she will and will not do and it allows your hands to roam while she is drinking her drink. i would often try to go up to the girl myself and interview her first to avoid the lady drink, however, if a waiter sees you talking to a girl they will be there in a new york minute trying to get you to buy a lady drink. late at night when it's more crowded it is much easier to talk to the girls without the waiter bothering you to buy a lady drink. drinks for you in the hong kong club are around $4 plus a one dollar tip for the waiter. tipping the dancing girls as well as the shaving cream girls a dollar allows your hands to roam on their body. the girls use the hotel cascadas which will cost you $15 for the half hour plus one dollar tip for the clean up boy. the hong kong club is probably the closest thing to a main monger watering hole where you can hang out with and meet fellow mongers like they have in san jose. the hong kong club has a $4 door fee at night but you get one drink with your door fee. if you are staying at the hotel cascadas you do not have to pay the door fee.

special mention: there were two that i had from hong kong on this last trip that deserve special mention. one stayed with me for two hours and gave me great sex, was real gfe with lots of kisses cuddling and caressing, this one i will keep to myself. the other one was exxxxtttrrreeemmmllllyyyy ggggrrreeeaaattt sssseeexxxx pse. don't remember her name didn't speak a word of english. darker skinned super hot body super nice butt real philippine looking in the face. lots of passionate wet sloppy deep french kissing, let me go down on her and feast on her both front and back like she was christmas dinner, gave me a bbbj and a rim job without me even asking, sex was real hard core pounding in many positions which she seemed to really get into. i don't know how long she stayed but it was way more than a half hour.

adalita bar:

this is the second best club in the zone, it's a great place and really should not be missed when you visit the zone. the girls here go for $60 for the half hour i have had one or two try to quote me $70 or $80 in the past but this is very rare. the hotel fee is $12 for the half hour plus a one dollar tip for the clean up boy. many of the girls here go for more of the silicon injection look, there are a number of girls who have had the silicon breast, ass, and lips and even the michael jackson plastic surgery nose. some have gone too far with it and have the silicone tranny look which can leave you in doubt as to their gender. however, there are many other very attractive girls there that don't have the silicon look and the adalita girls should definitely be checked out. there is no door charge to enter the adalita bar and on this trip i session with more adalita girls than i did with hong kong girls. i found the session with the adalita girls to be good i had good sex with all of the ones i had. however, a bbbj is extremely rare maybe less than 10% would agree to do this and it will usually be done with the expectation of a tip. however. 90% of them will agree to let you go down on them.

other clubs:

there are many other clubs in the zone and a few jutting off in either direction from the zone. none in my opinion are worth going into. on this trip and on all of my other trips i stuck my head in and took a look at almost all of them and in my opinion none of them are worth it. i only ever session in two of the other clubs besides the ones mentioned above. on my first trip i session with one girl from the chicago club, this place used to be popular from what i have been told and used to be the main pick up joint but has now slowed down a great deal, i session here mainly because i wanted to say i did a chicago club girl. the place is slow not a lot of people in there, girls are in the 6 to 7 to 8 range, prices are $60 plus room fee. at this price i would rather go over to adalita and find a hotter looking girl. the chicago club is a good place if you want to avoid the crowd and hang out with friends without being trampled on. also on my first trip i session with a girl from one of the newer clubs called la dolce cabana or something like that. she was a hot little 19 year old who gave me a great all natural session; however every time i've gone back in i've never seen anything that interested me. as for all of the other clubs i've never seen anything that really sparked my interest, most of these clubs cater more to the mexican nationals and for the same price i would rather go to adalita or hong kong to get my girls. all of these clubs have door guys out front who will try to get you into their club when you walk by, you can just ignore them. one club i would definitely avoid is play boys i've looked inside and never seen anything that sparked my interest and i have also read reports of guys being ripped off their by the girls and the management. i was eating at one of the food carts outside of the club when one of their girls came out to get something to eat i struck up a conversation with her and she told me you pay $45 for the vip room you get a bucket of beer and you pay the girl $60 for her service, this is a little more than $100 in total for a girl that i thought was a 6 or 7 at best.

final thoughts:

after having a few trips to tijuana and san jose under my belt i was not as in awe or as dumb struck by the zone as i had been on my first few trips. given the choice between gringo gulch in san jose or the zone in tijuana i would take san jose hands down. however, this is not a knock on the zone i still think the place is great and every monger should experience the zone and hong kong club in particular at least once. given the right airline price and the right timing i would go back to the zone in a heartbeat. there will always be a special place in my monger heart for the zone and the hong kong club as it was my first monger experience.

chris.

[JPF]

I can understand that, but this other guy came to me with his palms out before I even fully relenquished my dollar to the first guy.As I said, some will try for an extra tip anyway. If you didn't tip the second guy did he complain? It is my experience that they won't complain if they think you have paid once. However, if they see you coming out of the room and know you haven't tipped anyone they will complain if you don't tip. That happened to me once while I was getting the money out of my pocket.

[Bill]

Complain?

So what?

You are not required to "tip" or pay any housekeeping staff.

If it really bothers you, do what you have to.

I don't give them anything and it doesn't bother me.

If they call me names I tell them "same to you pal"

Your girl doesn't care, because she got what she wanted.

You can't go to zona norte with thin skin.

"Keep 'them poor" Most of us go to Mexico for bargains.

[Ath Trainer]

Complain?

So what?

You are not required to "tip" or pay any housekeeping staff.

If it really bothers you, do what you have to.

I don't give them anything and it doesn't bother me.

If they call me names I tell them "same to you pal"

Your girl doesn't care, because she got what she wanted.

You can't go to zona norte with thin skin.

"Keep 'them poor" Most of us go to Mexico for bargains.C'mon Bill. Give the guy a buck. You just got done banging a hott Mexican chick for a very reasonable price. The cum boy now has to go in and clean up your body fluids so the next monger can bang a hott Mexican chick on a "semi-clean" bed. That's the best dollar I can spend. Probably even better than the $1 tacos.

[Sock111]

C'mon Bill. Give the guy a buck. You just got done banging a hott Mexican chick for a very reasonable price. The cum boy now has to go in and clean up your body fluids so the next monger can bang a hott Mexican chick on a "semi-clean" bed. That's the best dollar I can spend. Probably even better than the $1 tacos.I always give the buck, and sometimes when I feel like I left more jizz stains than normal I'll give him two bucks.

[HorseTrader]

Nice report, I like the details.

Your comments are consistent with my experiences and observations, it's good to see that I'm doing things about the same as at least one other monger. I've never taken the public transportation from San Diego to San Ysidro, but maybe I will try it the next time I don't have a business reason to rent a car in San Diego.

Regarding girl prices, I think you have experienced slightly higher priced girls than I have experienced. Other mongers pay less than I pay, but the difference isn't a problem to me. The only reason I try to not overpay is because we don't want a few mongers to overpay and raise the expectations of the street girls.

Keep writing reports!

[Keg]

I always give the buck, and sometimes when I feel like I left more jizz stains than normal I'll give him two bucks.Too funny.

[DownInRosa]

Anyone hear about an indie near Otay? MILF-type, blonde. 30s? I've been in Tijuana since last year, so I'm not worried about venturing off the beaten track.

Don't feel like dipping into the used & bruised on the Zona lately.

[ObtForever]

Question for you Tijuana fans.

I am heading there this weekend for Sat / Sunday festivities. I have a room on Saturday night but don't plan on leaving the area until around 6pm on Sunday. I was planning on bringing an overnight bag and a change of clothes with me, but don't know what I would do with my bag after I have to check out of the hotel around noon / 1pm on Sunday. Any thoughts / tips? Do I just carry it around? What do you guys do?

[Monolith]

Question for you Tijuana fans.

I am heading there this weekend for Sat / Sunday festivities. I have a room on Saturday night but don't plan on leaving the area until around 6pm on Sunday. I was planning on bringing an overnight bag and a change of clothes with me, but don't know what I would do with my bag after I have to check out of the hotel around noon / 1pm on Sunday. Any thoughts / tips? Do I just carry it around? What do you guys do?Unless if you have any expensive or sensitive items, won't you just leave it at the front desk or bell man. Otherwise, HK can also store away your bag as well.

[Joe Arturo]

Question for you Tijuana fans.

I am heading there this weekend for Sat / Sunday festivities. I have a room on Saturday night but don't plan on leaving the area until around 6pm on Sunday. I was planning on bringing an overnight bag and a change of clothes with me, but don't know what I would do with my bag after I have to check out of the hotel around noon / 1pm on Sunday. Any thoughts / tips? Do I just carry it around? What do you guys do?I usually pay for another night so that I have a place to leave my bag, have a place to take a crap and have a place to bring a gal.

[Dan D Dick]

I usually pay for another night so that I have a place to leave my bag, have a place to take a crap and have a place to bring a gal.Ask the hotel to hold it all for you. Virtually all will, though I don't know the quality of the hotel you've selected.

/dddick

[JimmyKienTran]

Which bar? Where do they hang out at? And how much they charge? (cheaper then the young girl I guess ).

Thanks guys

[JimmyKienTran]

I am a prop 215 patient and I am not going to risk bringing my medicine across the border, what the easiest way to get some Marijuana?

[Phordphan]

I am a prop 215 patient and I am not going to risk bringing my medicine across the border, what the easiest way to get some Marijuana?Ok. Let me get this straight.

You've never been to Tijuana. You don't speak Spanish. You are unfamiliar with the Zona, outside of what you've read on this board.

And now you want to go to a foreign country, and, first item of business, score some (technically) illegal drugs? WTF? Are you stupid or something?

If you must. Try the Zacazonapan bar. There is also a guy selling it across from Chicago Club for 10 pesos a joint. But you're on your own. Maybe it's just me, but I suspect an Asian dude, wandering around the Zona looking to score, might stand out just a bit. Again, maybe just me, but IMHO you really don't want to give the cops an excuse to jack you up, even if it has been decriminalized.

Maybe others have a different take.

[Ath Trainer]

Ok. Let me get this straight.

You've never been to Tijuana. You don't speak Spanish. You are unfamiliar with the Zona, outside of what you've read on this board.

And now you want to go to a foreign country, and, first item of business, score some (technically) illegal drugs? WTF? Are you stupid or something?

If you must. Try the Zacazonapan bar. There is also a guy selling it across from Chicago Club for 10 pesos a joint. But you're on your own. Maybe it's just me, but I suspect an Asian dude, wandering around the Zona looking to score, might stand out just a bit. Again, maybe just me, but IMHO you really don't want to give the cops an excuse to jack you up, even if it has been decriminalized.

Maybe others have a different take.No different take here. Take your "medicine" before you leave the states and suck it up till you get home.

[Sock111]

Ok. Let me get this straight.

You've never been to Tijuana. You don't speak Spanish. You are unfamiliar with the Zona, outside of what you've read on this board.

And now you want to go to a foreign country, and, first item of business, score some (technically) illegal drugs? WTF? Are you stupid or something?

If you must. Try the Zacazonapan bar. There is also a guy selling it across from Chicago Club for 10 pesos a joint. But you're on your own. Maybe it's just me, but I suspect an Asian dude, wandering around the Zona looking to score, might stand out just a bit. Again, maybe just me, but IMHO you really don't want to give the cops an excuse to jack you up, even if it has been decriminalized.

Maybe others have a different take.I would not even provide info on getting drugs, telling a newbie that is just begging to get him in to trouble. If you want info on getting laid, there is plenty of info here.

I ask that fellow mongers not provide further info on scoring drugs in Tijuana. I believe it would just cause all kinds of problems in the Zona. Next thing I know I'll see some stupid asian kid in the back of the police truck as I walk down the alley.

[Keg]

I am a prop 215 patient and I am not going to risk bringing my medicine across the border, what the easiest way to get some Marijuana?I have found the Policia to be very helpful and friendly with tourists.

Just ask them: ¿Dónde puedo comprar marijuana?

[JimmyKienTran]

Yo calm down old farts. Thanks for the info and all, but chill out, is just weed. Man if some dude here trying to score viagra. I bet you guys would gladly help him, isn't that a drug?

[Bluat]

I would not even provide info on getting drugs, telling a newbie that is just begging to get him in to trouble. If you want info on getting laid, there is plenty of info here.

I ask that fellow mongers not provide further info on scoring drugs in Tijuana. I believe it would just cause all kinds of problems in the Zona. Next thing I know I'll see some stupid asian kid in the back of the police truck as I walk down the alley.As soon as he gets to Tijuana and explores a little he will see the drug dealer and the line of mexicans waiting to purchase it on the sidewalk. So really if he's perceptive enough he will find out where to score pretty easily.

The question though is should he. And in my opinion that is a NO. Tijuana despite what anyone says here is not the safest of places in the world. And as an Asian you stand out. Every beggar will be begging you, every street girl will go ch-ch-ch to get you to take her to a room, every club promoter will be hounding you to go into their club, and every street vendor will want to try to sell you some food. Suffice it to say all eyes will be on you, because they will think you have money. So with all the horror stories you hear about corrupt cops shaking down foreigners (to which I have seen last week with my very own eyes) do you really think it's a good idea purchasing and smoking weed on your very first trip to Tijuana? Where are you even going to smoke it anyway? In a dark alley somewhere by yourself? In your hotel room where there's a bunch of cumboys that will probably smell it? Out in the open where there are cops everywhere, and I really do mean they are everywhere. Cops might not bug the locals because they have been paid off, but believe me they wouldn't hesitate to bring you down.

[Thumperr]

yo calm down old farts. thanks for the info and all, but chill out, is just weed. man if some dude here trying to score viagra. i bet you guys would gladly help him, isn't that a drug?jimmy,

people offer advice because they are willing to help. that is why the board exists.

you are obviously free to ignore it.

like many on this board, i monger all over the earth. a universal rule in every country is the

experience versus "what is the worst that could happen?". in almost every case, the

worst case scenario for drug conviction outside of the us is so incredibly out of proportion to

the benefit, it is simply not worth it.

if you want to get high. good luck. but for those of us who know the world, we advise against.

not to highjack the conversation, but i would frankly prefer that any discussion of drugs, like ****

providers, be a subject we don't ever talk about on this site. guilt by association, and the oh so easy

steps to getting all of our private information released for a drug trafficing or kiddie porn investigation.

[Bill]

I am a prop 215 patient and I am not going to risk bringing my medicine across the border, what the easiest way to get some Marijuana?The sun doesn't shine there.

You can also ask any of the mexican or USA border agents how to dispose of any unused smoke.

Face book is a good way for you to hook up with guys with your similar interests.

[Reinaldo]

Man if some dude here trying to score viagra. I bet you guys would gladly help him, isn't that a drug?Earth to JKT. Viagra can be purchased legally in Mexico. The same can't be said for marijuana.

[TomJackin]

Yo calm down old farts. Thanks for the info and all, but chill out, is just weed. Man if some dude here trying to score viagra. I bet you guys would gladly help him, isn't that a drug?There are a few good things about us "old farts." That would be experience, wisdom, and knowledge.

Phordphan gave you solid advice, as well as telling you what bar that will support your need. When I walk by the place, almost every week, I smell the weed coming from the place. You should thank him for the information.

So at this point, you have a couple of choices: You can either listen and learn from the experience of others OR you could just ignore us "old farts" and dive in and take your chances. Good luck either way.

[Derekj6926]

The advice you received is worth adhering to, don't even think about illegal drugs outside the USA. The stories of those who are killed are usually involved with drugs in some way. I am comforted knowing that those of us who go to Tijuana for the ladies are in a protected status so to speak, we are the customers. If you are not going to Tijuana for the ladies get high in the USA or get high before you cross over. Those of us who don't use drugs don't like to corrupt our site with anything other than what this site is designed for. This site will give you great advice about almost any place in the universe you could ever dream of going, we value that very highly!

[Artisttyp]

I have spent many years on this forum and have never flamed anybody. I just don't believe in it. We are all here to help each other get laid and make friends with people who have similar interests period.

With that said I find your posts to be painfully infantile both in the Streetwalker thread and more obviously this one. So much so that it pains me to believe that people like you actually exist.

At least purchase a senior membership so people can ball you out via pm without wasting precious bandwith. Your best chance in Tijuana is having an old timer show you the ropes but I don't know who would be silly enough or kind enough to risk their well being.

*My advice is stay home.

With that said I am leaving today in the wee hours of the morning. To make matters even more exciting I am doing so with the runs from some bad mariscos that I ate in playas. Never a dull moment in Tijuana!

A lengthy report is to follow when I arrive home.

Tom Jackin and Joe Arturo. Thank You! Thanks for looking out.

[Chris Long]

I am a prop 215 patient and I am not going to risk bringing my medicine across the border, what the easiest way to get some Marijuana?Chris Long Scoring Drugs in Mexico.

Drugs:

The police in Mexico are very friendly and helpful to tourist when trying to buy illegal drugs. Any tourist can walk up to the first police officer they find and get helpful advice and guidance on where to find drugs. In almost all cases the police will assist the individual with a ride in their car and even give the individual accommodations during their stay in Mexico. Though some have reported the accommodations are slightly below a five star rating.

There is no need to go all the way to the zone to ask for drugs and I would highly advise against going to the zone to ask for your drugs. The best thing to do once you go through the turn styles and enter the Mexican side of the boarder is go immediately up to the very first police officer or soldier you see and ask them where you can buy your drugs, doing this will save you the extra five to ten minutes cab ride it takes to get to the zone plus the five dollar cab fee, this is money you will desperately need later.

Almost all drugs in Mexico are distributed by club organizations, these organizations are similar in many ways to the Moose clubs or Knights of Columbus in America though their initiation and penalty for early withdrawal can be somewhat more severe. These clubs engage in many fun activities like marksmanship, carving and rumor has it that almost all members are fascinated with Houdini the escape artist and often engage in fun activities like tying individuals up and seeing who can be the best escape artist. Some of the newer member of the club who are hoping to earn their merit badges will be the individuals you will approach for your drugs or who may approach you. These individuals will be easy to recognize as in many instances their appearance is similar to the American homeless. These will be fine upstanding individuals, you can go down allies with, enter buildings and houses where you don't know anyone and feel completely safe with these individuals. But again there is no need to go to the zone to find these individuals; these individuals can be found anywhere. If you decide not to follow the above advice of asking a police officer, then once you pass through the turn styles on the Mexican side simply start asking everyone you see where you can find your drugs, within sixty seconds one of these individuals will approach you. Follow them where ever they lead you and stay with them as long as they like, they can provide accommodations for you and will introduce you to situations you never thought in your wildest dreams you would find yourself in.

Final Thoughts:

STAY THE FUCK OUT OF THE ZONE WHEN LOOKING FOR DRUGS. Gringos going down to the zone to buy drugs will draw unwanted attention and scrutiny to a hobby which already has enough evangelists and crusaders trying to end it. Bringing a gringo drug trade into the zone will only destroy the zone and shut it down. If I ever see you down there trying to buy drugs I will report you to the police myself.

Chris

[Dos Lunas]

Arrived at the border just before 8pm courtesy of Tres Estrellas via Santa Ana bus depot $30 roundtrip. Still daylight and safe decided to walk the 10 minute distance to HK, first stopping at the pharmacy just after the bridge for one Ciales $4. Even after numerous trips to Tijuana over the years, I still find myself on guard and scanning my surroundings making sure no one is right behind me. Did not see many chicas at the alley this time, and the few that were there did not catch my eye. The police were highly visible and abundant which made the area feel safe. Sadly didn't see any of my past regulars.

HK confirmed my online reservation made the day prior for a room with two beds on the sixth floor $60 plus a refundable key deposit $10. The room was nice with the best benefit being no knock on the door during a session and getting a good quiet night's sleep. Also flashing the key card allowed me free entrance to HK, and so I roamed quite a bit checking out Adelitas, Chavelas, and Tropical many times.

HK was the usual party atmosphere and for this reason alone, aside from the $1 tacos in the corner, I had a good time. This place is hands down the best strip bar compared to the states. You get the most mileage for the least amount of money, and the acrobatic talent some of these strippers have are as good if not better than the USA counterpart. The lesbo shaving cream show is becoming a bit over-rated.

HK did not have many 9's or 10's Friday night, and the mostly 7's that were there didn't catch my eye to take to the room, which was a first for me. But I made the best of it with the $1 tips and all the touching I wanted, along with tits and ass on my face.

I couldn't find Tomjackin as we planned on meeting there, so I decided for plan B, Chavelas, which has never failed me in the past with finding gems. I approached three different chicas, and during the ficha interview none of them passed my particular tastes. So on to Adelitas and although the place was packed, the one that caught my eye was already having drinks with a guy. Tropical didn't have any gems this time. The alley was disappointing. So was my routine for the night. Hitting all the places and the obligatory taco stand (in the left corner as you exit the front of HK) , until the late hours of the night.

Saturday before checking out at 1pm, HK was starting the party atmosphere and I spotted several 9's. But the WTF they all wanted $80! Negotiation didn't help, even buying one a ficha drink didn't help. Now, I thought about giving in as these were some gorgeous women, but then realized I would not out of principle. We have the money and need to stand firm on this otherwise all the chicas will start asking for $80, and then more after. If these chicas won't take the usual $60, then on to others who will. So finally settled on a 7 face but a 9 body for $40 with a condition if I really liked her I would give her a $10 tip.

As I left for the border, I had a smile on my face. I really did like that session.

[Guitarrefreak]

Jakarta. As a fellow asian myself, I feel compelled to provide some words of caution, the newbies (both in terms of age, or just length of involvement in this hobby) , rely on "old farts" like TomJackin' and JoeArturo (whom I have had the pleasure of hanging out with and shown the ropes and share stories with, just for full disclosure) , we may not agree with everything the guys have to share, we sure as hell can listen to some friendly advice every once in a while from people who has no ulterior motive but to make sure that newbies stay alive and well down there, and also, don't fuck up at others' expense.

(I myself, have made random acquaintances down there, whose only motivation is to take full advantage of my wallet, 'nuff said)

That being said, you may not realize, but this little incident can cause unnecessary attention for asians who travel alone down there (and who does not look like an "old fart"). Not to say that someone is going to go out there to look for you, but one can't wonder if a lone asian down there will get that dirty look from fellow mongers.

I hope your ego does not get in the way of accepting that the last few posts from fellow members are intended to provide you with some perspective and some real wisdom, though this forum is virtual, the guys who regularly posts are really the ones who will end up looking after each other.

Peace |. |/


Yo calm down old farts. Thanks for the info and all, but chill out, is just weed. Man if some dude here trying to score viagra. I bet you guys would gladly help him, isn't that a drug?

[Guitarrefreak]

Arrived at the border just before 8pm courtesy of Tres Estrellas via Santa Ana bus depot $30 roundtrip. Still daylight and safe decided to walk the 10 minute distance to HK, first stopping at the pharmacy just after the bridge for one Ciales $4.

I couldn't find Tomjackin as we planned on meeting there, .Regarding walking, recently I asked a taxi driver about how he feels about walking that route. He gave me a stuttering "senor, no senor, por favor, cuidate, muy peligroso". I walked once about a month ago around 3pm, and it felt fine, it seemed fine, but the fact that a local warned me against it, makes me think twice again (Though, he might just be looking out for the taxi biz.) , personally, I could not help but look over my shoulder every once in a while even during broad daylight, I won't consider evening walk though, especially since I have seen policias parked there with flashing lights 7 out of 10 times I have passed by in a taxi.

Regarding tom, did you try looking for him sandwiched between chicas' ass or tits.

[FlapJacK]

Regarding walking, recently I asked a taxi driver about how he feels about walking that route. He gave me a stuttering "senor, no senor, por favor, cuidate, muy peligroso". I walked once about a month ago around 3pm, and it felt fine, it seemed fine, but the fact that a local warned me against it, makes me think twice again (Though, he might just be looking out for the taxi biz.) , personally, I could not help but look over my shoulder every once in a while even during broad daylight, I won't consider evening walk though, especially since I have seen policias parked there with flashing lights 7 out of 10 times I have passed by in a taxi.

Regarding tom, did you try looking for him sandwiched between chicas' ass or tits.I walk to the Zona all the time during the day no big deal, never any issues. But I always take a taxi after dark now days and Of course hes gong to tell you its a bad idea as they don't want to lose your business.

[ClamSlammer]

Looking for a wingman or two. I'm staying at Ticuan until Weds. PM me if any of you want to hang out. I know the ropes and speak almost passable Spanish.

[TomJackin]

I couldn't find Tomjackin as we planned on meeting there, so I decided for plan B, Chavelas, which has never failed me in the past with finding gems.Nice trip report.

I can see where the misconnect could have happened:

First, I haven't seen you in almost two years, so I'm sure we forgot what each other looked like. I was in HK from 8 until at least 9:30/10.

Second, I'm sure we were both preoccupied with all the fine ass in HK that we forgot we were suppose to meet in the first place, at least on my tired old brain's part.

Third, if it was close to 9 or 10, it was already past my bedtime, so I could have been taking a nappie in one of the booths OR could have had an ass sitting on my face when you walked by.

Sorry I missed you!

[Simonwagstaff]

About returning to Tijuana is that I had such a great time on two separate evenings that I am not sure it could happen again! Have had some good times and some times that were like "Well, it was only 60 bucks". Last two trips were mellow and fun and the ladies were quite beautiful and friendly. Very nice! Now, I like to get there in the afternoons and get out by dark, not walk too far, and don't smoke a doobie on the corner. I have never been hassled nor felt threatened. Headed back in a month or so and will see how it goes. I am sure I will have a nice time.

Thanks to the lovely chicas of Tijuana.

[Dos Lunas]

Nice trip report.

I can see where the misconnect could have happened:

First, I haven't seen you in almost two years, so I'm sure we forgot what each other looked like. I was in HK from 8 until at least 9:30/10.

Second, I'm sure we were both preoccupied with all the fine ass in HK that we forgot we were suppose to meet in the first place, at least on my tired old brain's part.

Third, if it was close to 9 or 10, it was already past my bedtime, so I could have been taking a nappie in one of the booths OR could have had an ass sitting on my face when you walked by.

Sorry I missed you!Ha ha, you're probably right. I too had my face implanted on tits and ass when you walked by as well. See you next time buddy.

[JimmyKienTran]

There are a few good things about us "old farts." That would be experience, wisdom, and knowledge.

Phordphan gave you solid advice, as well as telling you what bar that will support your need. When I walk by the place, almost every week, I smell the weed coming from the place. You should thank him for the information.

So at this point, you have a couple of choices: You can either listen and learn from the experience of others OR you could just ignore us "old farts" and dive in and take your chances. Good luck either way.Thanks For the Info Tom, Phordphan, and other in this Forum, Iam sorry about the comment.

[JimmyKienTran]

About returning to Tijuana is that I had such a great time on two separate evenings that I am not sure it could happen again! Have had some good times and some times that were like "Well, it was only 60 bucks". Last two trips were mellow and fun and the ladies were quite beautiful and friendly. Very nice! Now, I like to get there in the afternoons and get out by dark, not walk too far, and don't smoke a doobie on the corner. I have never been hassled nor felt threatened. Headed back in a month or so and will see how it goes. I am sure I will have a nice time.

Thanks to the lovely chicas of Tijuana.Sound good simon. But don't you wish we can smoke a doobie while we are in Tijuana? That would enhance my sex performance LOL.

[Rabo Verde]

oh for christ's sake, there is a marijuana bar 2 blocks from adelitas, where everyone is smoking pot.

about 1/4 of the club girls are potheads, i know because they call me on their days off and go with me.ditto some for the cops from the zona, we go out and have beers and 420 and they brag to me how they got $400 out of some fuckwit gringo, while they are smoking the pot they "confirep001ed" from him, and laughing how the gringo shit his pants as soon as they showed him the handcuffs.

you can get an 1/8 oz anywhere in the zona for $5. but if you don't speak spanish and know what you are doing, you will end up getting ass-fucked by the cops. not because of the "law" but because they know you are a girlie-man who will start crying and give them all your money as soon as they say "boo" to you!

regardless of what the "law" says. i have read the drug laws, in spanish, but it is irrelevant, if you are a fuckwit who speaks no spanish and you are caught with mj in the zona, they will lock you up for a few minutes, you will shit your pants, and you will give them every penny you have or can get ahold of, and then come on here crying about how you were "hassled" by the cops. meanwhile they are smoking the pot they took from you, taking the viagra they took from you, partying with the money they took from you, and banging your "novia" for free, and bragging about it to me.

and for you guys who think you have "girlfriends" in the zona, ask her to spend her day off with you without payment
and report back to me. i have taken maybe 30 girls from the zona out to the movies, met their moms, etc. some of them have traveled with me for no payment.

it is always amazing to me that the least knowledgeable weekend warriors come on here to argue about who knows more about what.

i am going to veracruz next month with 2 of my gfe's from the zona, they cook for me, go out with me, and charge me zero, introduce me to their parents, etc.
so which one of you tijuana "experts" has a "girlfriend" who will go for a weeks vacation with you for no money, pm me and we can go together!
what, no takers from the "experts" with their novias? gee i thought so.

meanwhile, keep arguing with each other about who knows more about the zona lol
(for anyone who knows the zona for real, relax i am not talking to you, so don't bother flaming me)

[Joe Arturo]

oh for christ's sake, there is a marijuana bar 2 blocks from adelitas, where everyone is smoking pot.

about 1/4 of the club girls are potheads, i know because they call me on their days off and go with me. ditto some for the cops from the zona, we go out and have beers and 420 and they brag to me how they got $400 out of some fuckwit gringo, while they are smoking the pot they "confirep001ed" from him, and laughing how the gringo shit his pants as soon as they showed him the handcuffs.

you can get an 1/8 oz anywhere in the zona for $5. but if you don't speak spanish and know what you are doing, you will end up getting ass-fucked by the cops. not because of the "law" but because they know you are a girlie-man who will start crying and give them all your money as soon as they say "boo" to you!

regardless of what the "law" says. i have read the drug laws, in spanish, but it is irrelevant, if you are a fuckwit who speaks no spanish and you are caught with mj in the zona, they will lock you up for a few minutes, you will shit your pants, and you will give them every penny you have or can get ahold of, and then come on here crying about how you were "hassled" by the cops. meanwhile they are smoking the pot they took from you, taking the viagra they took from you, partying with the money they took from you, and banging your "novia" for free, and bragging about it to me.

and for you guys who think you have "girlfriends" in the zona, ask her to spend her day off with you without payment

and report back to me. i have taken maybe 30 girls from the zona out to the movies, met their moms, etc. some of them have traveled with me for no payment.

it is always amazing to me that the least knowledgeable weekend warriors come on here to argue about who knows more about what.

i am going to veracruz next month with 2 of my gfe's from the zona, they cook for me, go out with me, and charge me zero, introduce me to their parents, etc.

so which one of you tijuana "experts" has a "girlfriend" who will go for a weeks vacation with you for no money, pm me and we can go together!

what, no takers from the "experts" with their novias? gee i thought so.

meanwhile, keep arguing with each other about who knows more about the zona lol.

(for anyone who knows the zona for real, relax i am not talking to you, so don't bother flaming me) siempre quice a irme para vera cruz. cuando vamos a ir? vamos en avion o camion o en mi carro? puedo llevar una o dos chicas conmigo? no tengo novia porque amor es muy pendejo!

[Artisttyp]

The marijuana bar you speak of is trouble. I've seen the cops raid that place several times. It is not amsterdam. Wrong impression. Only careless users would smoke there. You might get away with it a few times but don't forget to say hello to the cop who stands right outside on the corner.

Lots of bad advice if you ask me. If you do it in Tijuana keep it to yourself.

I smelled it on the streets recently being smoked by *street people who have nothing to lose. If that is where you want to fit in cool. For those of us wise enough to realize we arent zona rats and actually value our freedom or the money in our pocket eat a brownie before you cross.

[Travel Addict]

Anyone asking is XYZ is legal in Mexico is asking the wrong question.

The question is if the cops put the cuffs on you and tell you there is a $500 fine or they will put you in a cell until the judge can see you tomorrow, are you going to whip out your Mexican law books and argue. With them? NOOOO. As stated below, you are going to shit your pants, go to the ATM and pay them. Most Mexican cops have never read a law book. Do not carry ANY pills powders drugs pocket knives or get into any altercations in the zona. You have no rights, PERIOD.

[TomJackin]

started out the afternoon by picking up artisttyp at his hotel via taxi and headed to plaza rio mall so i could get my own tijuana phone number. for christ's sake, i'm down there enough, so why not. artisttyp led the way to some phone shop in the back of the mall, and for 150 pesos, the pretty lady installed the sim card in one of my unlocked travel phones, and activated the card as well. i was told that as long as i added minutes to it every now and then, i would always keep the same number. yep, i did try to get the pretty lady's phone number as well, but the moon and stars were not aligned to allow that to happen.

headed to hk and then planted my old ass in a booth. there were quite a few new girls in the place; some better looking than others, of course. but still, a very nice addition. after watching sharon dance on both stages, i came to a semi conclusion. i think that girl has the hottest and hardest body in the zona, imho. after tipping her on the back stage, i returned to my booth. as freddy was leaving the area, he asked,"so what, are you going to chill with sharon for a while?" i gave him my best,"are you out of your fucking mind" looks, and said,"sure, i would love to pay another 8 fucking dollars for a tasty plastic cup of ice water for her!" he had a good laugh and walked away.

i was looking for a different booth playmate, but as time went by, i did not see any fun candidates. thus, i was sinking into a deep depression. just about the time i was about to slit my wrists, i looked up and there she was with a million dollar smile, or more like a thousand peso smile. nevertheless, she seemed worth a try. as soon as she came over to the booth, she looked at me dead in the eyes, and dropped her panties to her knee caps! lord have mercy! i just met my next wife! she sat down and played like a champ, no restrictions at all. she told me both her bar name and real name, but it only took less than ten minutes to forget both of them.

what i do remember is that she love the camera and attention. speedy came by and decided that an ass crack tequila shot would be more than appropriate, so i agreed. i will admit, there was quite a bite to that shot, more than i expected, but i'm a big boy; no worries. the only thing that i did not like about "what's her name" was she drank a bit too fast for my taste. so after a couple of drinks and a dozen of pictures, i sent her packing, which confused her. btw, i took a shot for you foot fetish dudes, you know who you are. i did see her a bit later, and she pulled me aside and asked,"don't you want to fuck me?" i replied,"oh yes, but not today, tonight is street girl night." which seemed to confuse her even more.

headed out to the alley and started looking for one of my favorites, but they were either busy or not there. btw, last week artisttyp were trolling for some nasty street girls when this nice dude came up to us and told us that his club, christian, had a special, two beers and two tequilas for 3 bucks. i said what the fuck, let's go. well i thought it was either, two beers for 3 bucks, or two tequilas for 3 bucks. but to our surprise, it was all for 3 bucks! there was only one spinner in the place, but i thought it was good to check the place out anyway. the highlight was the spinner dancing with one of the other girls and she was wearing one of those tight short dresses that kept rising over her ass cheeks while she danced. she tried like hell to keep pulling the dress down, but because god was in my corner that night; the dress kept rising!

i circled the wagon (blocks) a few times before i saw one of my favorites. went to the store to stock up and then off to the 5 star shitty hour hotel; but it's all good. my girl has a belly that looks like a shipwreck, not like the titanic, but pretty damn close. but i'd be damned if she doesn't have the wackiest, cutest socks in the zona! i almost wanted to shoot my load on them, but it was a lot warmer to unload inside her; tough choices, huh?

the rest of the evening i bounced through hk, lc, ab, and cc, but spent the bulk of time in hk. ab had some seriously fine asses standing around, but just doing that, standing around. one day i will try a ab girl, when i get the time. lc had a few great looking, non big girls, but they were tied up. cc at least had dancers that rotated on the large stage, and then added a second dancer on the back stage.

i'm not sure why i continue to park in a $5 for 8 hours lot when i have not been able to get out of tijuana in less than 9 hours during the last several trips, but dammit, i won't give up.

[MiamiHeatLuver]

I'm not sure why I continue to park in a $5 for 8 hours lot when I have not been able to get out of Tijuana in less than 9 hours during the last several trips, but dammit, I won't give up.

I like you Tom, Not afraid to get you hands dirty or NOSE for that matter, you dive right in there and wash everything down with a little tequila. No smells, no fear and it doubles as a potent antiseptic. Jajajajaajajajaja LOL

[Ready Ru]

Love your reports man! Sorry I missed meeting you in Managua. Mabey in Tijuana some day

[DeepMmpactt]

I like you Tom, Not afraid to get you hands dirty or NOSE for that !.matter, you dive right in there and wash everything down with a little tequila. No smells, no fear and it doubles as a potent antiseptic. Jajajajaajajajaja LOLMiami HeatLuver I agree, this a great accurrate post, Tom is 'Legend Of The Face In Ass Shots" I guess that makes him a Ass-In-Face-O-Logist. LOL. And I'm The Number 1 Feet Fetish Wierdo. So Thanks Tom for those great toe shott. I can't wait to go to Tijuanna for the first time. So DeepMmpactt invades Tijuanna, I'm taking no prisioners. LOL!

[Derekj6926]

great report, one day i must introduce myself to you when i see you and shake the hand of the man who can do tiquila shots down her ass at no charge to the lady! got to luv it!


started out the afternoon by picking up artisttyp at his hotel via taxi and headed to plaza rio mall so i could get my own tijuana phone number. for christ's sake, i'm down there enough, so why not. artisttyp led the way to some phone shop in the back of the mall, and for 150 pesos, the pretty lady installed the sim card in one of my unlocked travel phones, and activated the card as well. i was told that as long as i added minutes to it every now and then, i would always keep the same number. yep, i did try to get the pretty lady's phone number as well, but the moon and stars were not aligned to allow that to happen.

headed to hk and then planted my old ass in a booth. there were quite a few new girls in the place; some better looking than others, of course. but still, a very nice addition. after watching sharon dance on both stages, i came to a semi conclusion. i think that girl has the hottest and hardest body in the zona, imho. after tipping her on the back stage, i returned to my booth. as freddy was leaving the area, he asked,"so what, are you going to chill with sharon for a while?" i gave him my best,"are you out of your fucking mind" looks, and said,"sure, i would love to pay another 8 fucking dollars for a tasty plastic cup of ice water for her!" he had a good laugh and walked away.

i was looking for a different booth playmate, but as time went by, i did not see any fun candidates. thus, i was sinking into a deep depression. just about the time i was about to slit my wrists, i looked up and there she was with a million dollar smile, or more like a thousand peso smile. nevertheless, she seemed worth a try. as soon as she came over to the booth, she looked at me dead in the eyes, and dropped her panties to her knee caps! lord have mercy! i just met my next wife! she sat down and played like a champ, no restrictions at all. she told me both her bar name and real name, but it only took less than ten minutes to forget both of them.

what i do remember is that she love the camera and attention. speedy came by and decided that an ass crack tequila shot would be more than appropriate, so i agreed. i will admit, there was quite a bite to that shot, more than i expected, but i'm a big boy; no worries. the only thing that i did not like about "what's her name" was she drank a bit too fast for my taste. so after a couple of drinks and a dozen of pictures, i sent her packing, which confused her. btw, i took a shot for you foot fetish dudes, you know who you are. i did see her a bit later, and she pulled me aside and asked,"don't you want to fuck me?" i replied,"oh yes, but not today, tonight is street girl night." which seemed to confuse her even more.

headed out to the alley and started looking for one of my favorites, but they were either busy or not there. btw, last week artisttyp were trolling for some nasty street girls when this nice dude came up to us and told us that his club, christian, had a special, two beers and two tequilas for 3 bucks. i said what the fuck, let's go. well i thought it was either, two beers for 3 bucks, or two tequilas for 3 bucks. but to our surprise, it was all for 3 bucks! there was only one spinner in the place, but i thought it was good to check the place out anyway. the highlight was the spinner dancing with one of the other girls and she was wearing one of those tight short dresses that kept rising over her ass cheeks while she danced. she tried like hell to keep pulling the dress down, but because god was in my corner that night; the dress kept rising!

i circled the wagon (blocks) a few times before i saw one of my favorites. went to the store to stock up and then off to the 5 star shitty hour hotel; but it's all good. my girl has a belly that looks like a shipwreck, not like the titanic, but pretty damn close. but i'd be damned if she doesn't have the wackiest, cutest socks in the zona! i almost wanted to shoot my load on them, but it was a lot warmer to unload inside her; tough choices, huh?

the rest of the evening i bounced through hk, lc, ab, and cc, but spent the bulk of time in hk. ab had some seriously fine asses standing around, but just doing that, standing around. one day i will try a ab girl, when i get the time. lc had a few great looking, non big girls, but they were tied up. cc at least had dancers that rotated on the large stage, and then added a second dancer on the back stage.

i'm not sure why i continue to park in a $5 for 8 hours lot when i have not been able to get out of tijuana in less than 9 hours during the last several trips, but dammit, i won't give up.

[TomJackin]

The peso exchange was 13. 045 in San Ysidro so I stocked up a bit. I wasn't in HK for more than few minutes when a new cutie approached me, sat down, and butchered English. So I did my best and butchered Spanish, but not on purpose, but only because my Spanish still sucks, and we both did one hell of a job butchering both languages; I liked her. Plus she was photogenic. She wanted to show off her new tattoo.

It was a motorcycle / tattoo theme in HK and there were a few hogs set up, not the ones that walk around in LC, but regular Harleys. Once the new girl left, one of my favorites was swarming and watching, and then she saw her chance to swoop in for a drink, no worries, she played for the camera and was quite affectionate in the booth as well. My mesero made the ultimate mistake and left a bag of chips on my table. I launched them fuckers from the upper section to the lower section! They landed next to one of the hogs; he had a hell of a time retrieving them. Pic included.

Met up with Woodster (TJA) and his buddy in HK, stayed there a bit, and then moved on to Playboy. I admit Playboy has not been my cup of tea, but I decided to give it another try with Woodster and pal. Woodster and his friend hooked up right away and I decided to stay solo, because they had the only good looking girls already. The mesero returned with my screwdriver and told me it was $7. 00. Yep, I got pissed! I said,"There is no way in hell I'm going to pay 7 fucking dollars for a damn screwdriver, so you now have a couple of options, you can take the drink back, OR, you can go ask the bartender, the manager, or God, what is the real fucking price of this drink. He returned and said it was only 2 bucks.

The mesero swore up and down that I needed a girl to sit with. So one by one, he kept bringing them to me for my approval; each time I sent them packing, but at least with a dollar tip because I did check out the goodies. I was about to move on and out when he brought over this last girl. Tall, dark, and quite pretty. I asked him,"Where did you get her from, Hong Kong?" I told him, no thanks, but on my way out the door, she was sitting at the bar and gave me a big beautiful smile as I passed by. God Dammit! OK, just one drink! We chatted and exchanged numbers; another gal for the Tijuana bucket list.

I had a date lined up at Chicago Club, but she was a no show, so I bounced around and chatted with as many girls as physically and mentally possible. I ran into one, who I met before that gave me a great booth massage, and she speaks English to boot, but she is a bit older. She wanted to do a three some with this decent looking younger gal, but not much younger. I got them down to $120, for an hour, and it included the room. But she was acting like a used car salesperson and I deleted her from the three some. Then she got pissed and said,"This is a business and that's all." I replied,"I agree, but you don't have to act like it." Then I said,"For example, just how many business clients do you have each day? While your friend here is rubbing my cock and will get my business, you on the other hand only speak of dollars, so apparently you need to take a "Customer Service" class at a community college so you can figure things the fuck out." I spent a great hour with her friend.

I got a couple of toe shots for you toe freaks; I'm here to help.

[D Cups]

Hi Tom, is the busty one from Chicago Club, Playboy or HK? In any case, very nice! Thanks!

Ya, some of the Mexicans must think we're stupid with their upselling.


The peso exchange was 13. 045 in San Ysidro so I stocked up a bit. I wasn't in HK for more than few minutes when a new cutie approached me, sat down, and butchered English. So I did my best and butchered Spanish, but not on purpose, but only because my Spanish still sucks, and we both did one hell of a job butchering both languages; I liked her. Plus she was photogenic. She wanted to show off her new tattoo.

It was a motorcycle / tattoo theme in HK and there were a few hogs set up, not the ones that walk around in LC, but regular Harleys. Once the new girl left, one of my favorites was swarming and watching, and then she saw her chance to swoop in for a drink, no worries, she played for the camera and was quite affectionate in the booth as well. My mesero made the ultimate mistake and left a bag of chips on my table. I launched them fuckers from the upper section to the lower section! They landed next to one of the hogs; he had a hell of a time retrieving them. Pic included.

Met up with Woodster (TJA) and his buddy in HK, stayed there a bit, and then moved on to Playboy. I admit Playboy has not been my cup of tea, but I decided to give it another try with Woodster and pal. Woodster and his friend hooked up right away and I decided to stay solo, because they had the only good looking girls already. The mesero returned with my screwdriver and told me it was $7. 00. Yep, I got pissed! I said,"There is no way in hell I'm going to pay 7 fucking dollars for a damn screwdriver, so you now have a couple of options, you can take the drink back, OR, you can go ask the bartender, the manager, or God, what is the real fucking price of this drink. He returned and said it was only 2 bucks.

The mesero swore up and down that I needed a girl to sit with. So one by one, he kept bringing them to me for my approval; each time I sent them packing, but at least with a dollar tip because I did check out the goodies. I was about to move on and out when he brought over this last girl. Tall, dark, and quite pretty. I asked him,"Where did you get her from, Hong Kong?" I told him, no thanks, but on my way out the door, she was sitting at the bar and gave me a big beautiful smile as I passed by. God Dammit! OK, just one drink! We chatted and exchanged numbers; another gal for the Tijuana bucket list.

I had a date lined up at Chicago Club, but she was a no show, so I bounced around and chatted with as many girls as physically and mentally possible. I ran into one, who I met before that gave me a great booth massage, and she speaks English to boot, but she is a bit older. She wanted to do a three some with this decent looking younger gal, but not much younger. I got them down to $120, for an hour, and it included the room. But she was acting like a used car salesperson and I deleted her from the three some. Then she got pissed and said,"This is a business and that's all." I replied,"I agree, but you don't have to act like it." Then I said,"For example, just how many business clients do you have each day? While your friend here is rubbing my cock and will get my business, you on the other hand only speak of dollars, so apparently you need to take a "Customer Service" class at a community college so you can figure things the fuck out." I spent a great hour with her friend.

I got a couple of toe shots for you toe freaks; I'm here to help.

[TomJackin]

Hi Tom, is the busty one from Chicago Club, Playboy or HK? In any case, very nice! Thanks!

Ya, some of the Mexicans must think we're stupid with their upselling.Both of the busty ones are buddies of mine in HK. If we ever get a chance to meet up, I'd be more than happy to introduce you to both of them. One is a HK day girl and the other works at night, both are awesome.

[Baxter Slade]

Tom, good move sending those potato chips flying. It is a total act of disrespect when a mesero tries to pawn off chips on a seasoned veteran such as yourself.

[KC Questor]

Love the story of the chips as well as the info on the drink scam. It is these kinds of details that really help a guy who hasn't been to Tijuana in years. I'm going down in June for the first time since 2002, and it sounds like some things have changed, while others are still the same as they always were.

[Derekj6926]

Was in the Zona Norte having a drink with some chicks in the Las Chevalas Bar when one of the street vendors came in the bar to sell some things off her over the shoulder flea market of gum, chicklets, chips, jerky, etc. I did not want anything so I started conversation with this beautiful lady beside me by asking her if she wanted anything, she said yes lets get some jerky and I will share it with you. We got the jerky, I paid for it and she proceeded to prepare the jerky unlike anything I had every seen, she put hot sauce on the jerky then took a lemon and squeezed the juice over the jerky, it was so delicious the best jerky I have ever had, then I proceeded to take her to the room and enjoyed her. Great night in the Zona! The next day I was back there enjoying the company of some different ladies when another vendor came in to sell her wares. I ordered some jerky put the hot sauce on and squeezed the lime over the jerky as I was taught the day before thinking I was brilliant, I offered some jerky to the ladies at the bar and they were all excited and said to me; You must be a Mexican! I said why do you say that, the lady said do you know what you are eating? I said yes Beef Jerky, she said NO that is DOG. Thankfully I had six beers in me and I kept right on eating as if everything was normal. Needless to say I have not ordered any more jerky in Tijuana!

[Chris Long]

Question.

What is the most women you have ever session with in one day.

What is the most women you have ever session with on one trip.

On average how many times do you session a day when you are mongering.

I ask these questions because I have been going way over board when I monger and I am just wondering what the norm is for everyone.

Thanks.

Chris

[Phordphan]

Was in the Zona Norte having a drink with some chicks in the Las Chevalas Bar when one of the street vendors came in the bar to sell some things off her over the shoulder flea market of gum, chicklets, chips, jerky, etc. I did not want anything so I started conversation with this beautiful lady beside me by asking her if she wanted anything, she said yes lets get some jerky and I will share it with you. We got the jerky, I paid for it and she proceeded to prepare the jerky unlike anything I had every seen, she put hot sauce on the jerky then took a lemon and squeezed the juice over the jerky, it was so delicious the best jerky I have ever had, then I proceeded to take her to the room and enjoyed her. Great night in the Zona! The next day I was back there enjoying the company of some different ladies when another vendor came in to sell her wares. I ordered some jerky put the hot sauce on and squeezed the lime over the jerky as I was taught the day before thinking I was brilliant, I offered some jerky to the ladies at the bar and they were all excited and said to me; You must be a Mexican! I said why do you say that, the lady said do you know what you are eating? I said yes Beef Jerky, she said NO that is DOG. Thankfully I had six beers in me and I kept right on eating as if everything was normal. Needless to say I have not ordered any more jerky in Tijuana!Yummmm.

I'm skeptical, but anything is possible in Tijuana!

Since you're now following in our beloved President's footsteps, and enjoying his favorite dish, I found a link you'll enjoy! ;)

http://puppybeef.com/history.php

Be sure to visit their sister site, kittybeef. Com. Between the two, you'll find something to satisfy your new-found craving! :)

You'll never look at your pets the same way again. :D

[TomJackin]

I ask these questions because I have been going way over board when I monger and I am just wondering what the norm is for everyone.I don't think there is a norm in this hobby. Some are into sport fucking, as many as possible. Others are interested in one great GFE each day. Some are interested in have a wife experience for several days.

I personally think each style stems from previous experiences, whether it be from family members, girlfriends, or wives. Personally, I don't have to fuck 4-6 girls a day to prove my manhood, in fact, I could give a fuck what others think about me; but that's just me.

[TomJackin]

I ordered some jerky put the hot sauce on and squeezed the lime over the jerky as I was taught the day before thinking I was brilliant, I offered some jerky to the ladies at the bar and they were all excited and said to me; You must be a Mexican! I said why do you say that, the lady said do you know what you are eating? I said yes Beef Jerky, she said NO that is DOG.Bring that puppy on, but without the lime! In PI, I'm sure I ate dog, cat, and monkey, but cannot confirm it because BBQ sauce makes it all taste good. Here is the great street food in Thailand.

[Dan D Dick]

Okay, visited last night, a Wednesday, arriving about 7:30 & finally leaving about 11. Normal Tijuana hustle to the extreme, everybody is hounding you for something every 2 minutes, usually propinas.

Set at the stage so I could just relax & enjoy. In 30 sec the muchacha drops a girl in my lap. But. She was gorgeous & had a huge rack. So I said okay & bought her a drink ($10 plus the obligatory dollar tip for everybody & their little brother).

Bottom line, by the time I left she was boracha, I had felt up everything possible, had a great time and was out much more than was prudent, probably $200 or so. The muchacha, a very not-nice-looking older and very gorda lady offered me anything I wanted and kept feeling me up. She clearly was having a great time.

Furniture needs re-covering badly, most prices aren't bad by USA standards, the girls were very nice and several were gorgeous. So as long as you go with money in your pocket, can tolerate the incessant hustle and wait to visit the alley to get laid you can have a very good time. I had no issues in walking the distance to the Hong Kong area.

Only ran into one person that spoke a bit of English so some Spanish would certainly help. I'm pretty fluent and had a very good time joking & groping & drinking.

/dddick

[Jrzmong]

Has anyone seen Luna from Chavelas? She is a thin 19yo with green eyes and fair skin, very cute girl, she asks 100 but maybe you can bargain with her

[Simonwagstaff]

220 bucks just for some feelie action? That's three very fine times with nice girls at Adelitas, including room and tip.


Okay, visited last night, a Wednesday, arriving about 7:30 & finally leaving about 11. Normal Tijuana hustle to the extreme, everybody is hounding you for something every 2 minutes, usually propinas.

Set at the stage so I could just relax & enjoy. In 30 sec the muchacha drops a girl in my lap. But. She was gorgeous & had a huge rack. So I said okay & bought her a drink ($10 plus the obligatory dollar tip for everybody & their little brother).

Bottom line, by the time I left she was boracha, I had felt up everything possible, had a great time and was out much more than was prudent, probably $200 or so. The muchacha, a very not-nice-looking older and very gorda lady offered me anything I wanted and kept feeling me up. She clearly was having a great time.

Furniture needs re-covering badly, most prices aren't bad by USA standards, the girls were very nice and several were gorgeous. So as long as you go with money in your pocket, can tolerate the incessant hustle and wait to visit the alley to get laid you can have a very good time. I had no issues in walking the distance to the Hong Kong area.

Only ran into one person that spoke a bit of English so some Spanish would certainly help. I'm pretty fluent and had a very good time joking & groping & drinking.

/dddick

[Dan D Dick]

220 bucks just for some feelie action? That's three very fine times with nice girls at Adelitas, including room and tip.But at the end of the day $200 ain't really much to me & I had a very good time. If it's all about the dollar go visit Quito (Ecuador) where you can get a decent hostel for $3-5 a night and visit the chongas & get a beautiful woman for $6. I once new a guy who did just that, paying about $90 a month for room, $3. 5 a day for food and $12. 20 a day for girlsat2x / day. [BTW, when I visited Quito I went to the best in town & paid $15 plus tip. ]

That's why I was clear in the post. Had a great time, got my money's worth but it wasn't cheap. And if you just want to get laid, right away, there are certainly chearper options out there. Haven't ever gotten a gal at AB for $33 though ($220/5 minus the $11 room fee). Guess you're a better bargainer than I.

/dddick

[Ath Trainer]

But at the end of the day $200 ain't really much to me & I had a very good time. If it's all about the dollar go visit Quito (Ecuador) where you can get a decent hostel for $3-5 a night and visit the chongas & get a beautiful woman for $6. I once new a guy who did just that, paying about $90 a month for room, $3. 5 a day for food and $12. 20 a day for girlsat2x / day. [BTW, when I visited Quito I went to the best in town & paid $15 plus tip. ]

That's why I was clear in the post. Had a great time, got my money's worth but it wasn't cheap. And if you just want to get laid, right away, there are certainly chearper options out there. Haven't ever gotten a gal at AB for $33 though ($220/5 minus the $11 room fee). Guess you're a better bargainer than I.

/dddickI hear what you are saying Dan. The difference is that you are in Tijuana. Can't compare Tijuana prices to another location. At AB, standard is. 60 for the girl, .12 for the room, and. 1 for the cumboy. That's. 73; Multiply it times 3 and it's. 219.

Sometimes you just want to play, and have some fun with the girls. Usually ends up being more expensive than if you went to the room with them.

[Derekj6926]

While in the Zona Norte I like to party like a Rock Star, I plan on four hundred a day. I give at least fifty to one hundred a day in tips to the girls while I play with them in the bars. If you are there it is up to you how you want to play. It is good to know you can come out of your room and for twenty you can get a BJ. Loving the ladies as I do I LOVE to tease and play with them between sessions. Some of us live very stressful lives in our professional lives and find relief in different ways. I find it so pleasurable just walking up to a lady and for a buck or two enjoying her lucious breasts or her beautiful sexy round ass or her sweet smile, buying a few drinks for a sexy lady, going in a booth if I feel like it and blowing twenty or forty dollars. Even on the street talking to the street girls and once in a while you find one who is as sweet as any AB or HK girl. The don't forget to help the less fortunate on the street.

If you got it! Enjoy it! That is my motto, everything I do in life I do to excess and I don't stop while in the Zona Norte!

I DO LOVE THE LADIES!


I hear what you are saying Dan. The difference is that you are in Tijuana. Can't compare Tijuana prices to another location. At AB, standard is. 60 for the girl, .12 for the room, and. 1 for the cumboy. That's. 73; Multiply it times 3 and it's. 219.

Sometimes you just want to play, and have some fun with the girls. Usually ends up being more expensive than if you went to the room with them.

[Lempo]

Everybody is making valid points on both sides. And to be honest, I can't see why it wouldn't be in the interest of a monger with money to burn to burn it in whatever way he wants, to party like a rock star, providing he visits Tijuana only once or twice in his life.

But after ten years of mongering in Tijuana, I can say that unlike other places (Europe, Brazil, Thailand) paying more doesn't get better service, especially if you frequent Tijuana. I'm not sure what's going on their chica heads. Perhaps it's all part of the nice guy syndrome: women can't get wet for guys that treat them well.

My advice is for mongers to find out what the going rate is, offer it before they make their offer, and send them packing if they don't like your offer. If they do accept, tip them after the session if you feel they gave it a personal touch. If not, leave it at a thank you. I promise you she'll go up with again even if you don't tip.

But the other problem with overpaying is that's inflationary and, in turn, throws your less affluent brother mongers under the bus, importantly our Mexican counterparts who, through their dickering and steady patronage, have worked so hard to keep the chicas cheap and on the streets. We owe them that respect.

If and when it gets to a point where they cannot afford the local prostitutes, those guys aren't going to care if the voters sweep the chicas off the streets, as has been done in the US and other first world nations. And away goes the eye candy, to say the least.

P. S. DDD, if you only feel 'them up, and if you have not been to Madonna's and some of the other strip bars on Revolution near 9th, you should visit those places. The women are consistently better looking than anything in the Zona.

[Joe Arturo]

Last week Chicago Club was using 12 to 1 as their internal exchange rate. This week it was raised up to 13 to 1. Last night at Chicago Club I set up a tab of $200 on my ATM card. They ran it through their machine as 2600 pesos. $186. 00 was debited to my bank account. That means I got 13. 97 to one last night through my bank. If you want to do this or use your card at one of the ATM machines in Tijuana, make sure that your bank does not charge a foreign transaction fee. Most banks do and it runs 3% to 5% depending on the bank. My bank does not charge a foreign transaction fee.

[Super Gato]

P. S. DDD, if you only feel 'them up, and if you have not been to Madonna's and some of the other strip bars on Revolution near 9th, you should visit those places. The women are consistently better looking than anything in the Zona.Yeah, Amnesia has some pretty stunning girls what will give you lots of fondling and mileage (but no sex) for about what you paid at Peanuts & Beer.

[Super Gato]

Last week Chicago Club was using 12 to 1 as their internal exchange rate. This week it was raised up to 13 to 1. Last night at Chicago Club I set up a tab of $200 on my ATM card. They ran it through their machine as 2600 pesos. $186. 00 was debited to my bank account. That means I got 13. 97 to one last night through my bank. If you want to do this or use your card at one of the ATM machines in Tijuana, make sure that your bank does not charge a foreign transaction fee. Most banks do and it runs 3% to 5% depending on the bank. My bank does not charge a foreign transaction fee.I wish I could drop $200 at Chicago. Lately I find it hard to spend more than $5. There was a clique of about 4-5 stunners there up until about a year ago like Stefani. I'll usually stop in every time I'm down there (a few times a month) , I'll get a cold drink and avoid the crowds of the other bars and relax.

It is sad I'll walk in and there will be 5 customers. 5 meseros and 5 girls (none of them up to my standards). I go back to HK or AB and they're packed to the rafters. Even three years ago Chicago would be crowded at about 11pm Thu-Sat

[Ath Trainer]

I wish I could drop $200 at Chicago. Lately I find it hard to spend more than $5. There was a clique of about 4-5 stunners there up until about a year ago like Stefani. I'll usually stop in every time I'm down there (a few times a month) , I'll get a cold drink and avoid the crowds of the other bars and relax.

It is sad I'll walk in and there will be 5 customers. 5 meseros and 5 girls (none of them up to my standards). I go back to HK or AB and they're packed to the rafters. Even three years ago Chicago would be crowded at about 11pm Thu-SatI will check out Chicago at least 3 times during each visit, hoping for something to catch my eye. Unfortunately, every visit lately, is disappointing. Very few girls, most are eh at the best. If you do see something that could be decent, they don't even have a pulse. About 2 years ago, I stopped in after doing a AB girl, and was immediately approached by a hottie with a personality. Unfortunately, I left my leche across the street.

[Joe Arturo]

I wish I could drop $200 at Chicago. Lately I find it hard to spend more than $5. There was a clique of about 4-5 stunners there up until about a year ago like Stefani. I'll usually stop in every time I'm down there (a few times a month) , I'll get a cold drink and avoid the crowds of the other bars and relax.

It is sad I'll walk in and there will be 5 customers. 5 meseros and 5 girls (none of them up to my standards). I go back to HK or AB and they're packed to the rafters. Even three years ago Chicago would be crowded at about 11pm Thu-SatI prefer to go to a place where I can walk around and hear the conversation that I am having with the muchacha. I go to HK and AB in the morning and early afternoon before the sausagefest starts. There is something about squeezing my way past sweaty men with hard ons that just doesn't do it for me. Like you, I have developed my techniques to weed out the good providers from the rest. I speak fluent Spanish, which helps but it also helps to be able to hear the other side of the conversation, which I find impossible to do when they crank the music up at HK and AB.

Yes, I remember Estefanie and Misteriosa and the rest. During those days, Chicago Club became my home and it still is to this day.

I didn't drop the whole $200 last night. It is on my account when I go back today. Last night Chicago Club was rocking. They still have stunners such as Ivanna and Lizet. I think that too many guys go to Chicago Club at the wrong time and turn around and leave instead of waiting a little bit. I have taken a few of HK and AB customers there with me and they usually come back for more.

Hope to meet you sometime here in Tijuana. I am here almost every Friday through Monday. Take care and good hunting my friend.

[Reinaldo]

Does this mean their peso prices have gone up or remained the same?


Last week Chicago Club was using 12 to 1 as their internal exchange rate. This week it was raised up to 13 to 1.

[Super Gato]

I prefer to go to a place where I can walk around and hear the conversation that I am having with the muchacha. I go to HK and AB in the morning and early afternoon before the sausagefest starts. There is something about squeezing my way past sweaty men with hard ons that just doesn't do it for me. Like you, I have developed my techniques to weed out the good providers from the rest. I speak fluent Spanish, which helps but it also helps to be able to hear the other side of the conversation, which I find impossible to do when they crank the music up at HK and AB.

Yes, I remember Estefanie and Misteriosa and the rest. During those days, Chicago Club became my home and it still is to this day.

I didn't drop the whole $200 last night. It is on my account when I go back today. Last night Chicago Club was rocking. They still have stunners such as Ivanna and Lizet. I think that too many guys go to Chicago Club at the wrong time and turn around and leave instead of waiting a little bit. I have taken a few of HK and AB customers there with me and they usually come back for more.

Hope to meet you sometime here in Tijuana. I am here almost every Friday through Monday. Take care and good hunting my friend.I hear what you're saying about HK being a sausage fest at night. It is hot and smells of BO and desperation. Lots of guys will get paralyzed when they see a foam show for the first time and just stand there in the middle of the aisle. I visit all three bars in a progression when I go but Hong Kong is too hot and crowded, Chicago is too dead, so I end up at Adelita most to the time. I have a few favorites there, it isn't' as packed as HK and they will turn the AC on when it is crowded so it isn't a sweat lodge like HK.

I swear I didn't imagine it but in 2008 or so I was there and there was a 100% Chinese girl working there who was an acrobat on the pole and that ring on the stage. She was super duper popular with the Asian guys and I was in town for just one weekend and didn't have a chance to get with her. It wasn't Lizete, this girl was very thin with an athletic build, and again, quite the dancer. I haven't seen her or anyone like her in Tijuana since. Back then on a weekend night it was standing room only and there were always dancers on the main stage and those little mini stages in the back. I'd love to see Chicago have a return to that.

[Joe Arturo]

Does this mean their peso prices have gone up or remained the same?The dollar prices stayed the same. The peso prices went up. For instance a ficha drink was 84 pesos and now is 91 pesos but remains at 7 dollars

[Super Gato]

The dollar prices stayed the same. The peso prices went up. For instance a ficha drink was 84 pesos and now is 91 pesos but remains at 7 dollarsI've noticed that bars like HK / AB / Chicago will price their drinks in dollars and float the peso cost based on currency fluctuations so you it is hard to take advantage of fluctuations unless you do thinks like open a tab but I'd guess that the person that ran the card through wasn't good at math and gave you a bonus. Of course, as a good customer you deserve a great rate. And it isn't bad for the bar since that means you'll spend it all there.

The girls in these clubs will also price themselves in dollars and adjust the peso rate based on the exchange rate. Most use the rate posted in the bar or something close. But some are like Banamex and get pretty precise when you're paying in pesos. For this reason, for many of my jaunts into Tijuana I'll just pay in dollars and skip trying to save money through arbitrage.

You can also tell the primary currency in a bar by how hard it is to get change. At AB / HK any mesero can break a US$20 but he has to go back to the bar to break a 200 peso note and definitely has to for a 500 peso note. The final test is how Hong Kong now has Coors Light as the beer at the door you have to buy to get in instead of the local Tecate. Fortunately you can change that warm gringo beer in for something cold at the bar.

You go into the second tier mostly locals market where everything is priced in pesos and you'll see the paso prices remain constant over time and the dollar prices fluctuation. Most of these club girls and the paraditas are less likely to keep up with the exchange rate and so your dollar can go farther there.

[QuackUp]

Been coming down south about once a month but haven't written lately because I have been meeting up with a favorite and doing things away from the zona.

During this time, I didn't go into the clubs to check out the talent. Anyways, went down this past Sunday stayed overnight and came home on Memorial day. I took the train which cost $36. 00 from L. A. To San. On Sunday. Then the cost jumped up to $45. 00 coming back on Monday.

Although it takes longer to get there, it was nice not having the pressures of driving. Also for a Sunday, there was alot of traffic on the Freeway. There were streches when all you saw were red brake lights.

Once there, I visited a / be, t / be, lc, and Valentinas. I will write about those in their forums.

I exchanged money at the cambio next to the mcdonalds by the trolley. It was better than anything I saw in Tijuana. The rate there was 13. 055 to 1.

After checking into the Ticuan, my favorite texted me and said she couldn't make our designated time which was for 15:00. Instead she said she couldn't make it until 19:00.

That was okay by me, I could check out the clubs and see what I've been missing.

Wasn't really planning on doing anyone but one girl at L / see caught my eye and I bought her a drink. Her name is Monserrat. Only been at the club for a month. She has a pretty face but when the clothes came off, she had a bigger belly than what I had thought. She has a great personality and was better than average upstairs.

She is a great kisser, didn't rush and we did about three positions. But I don't think I will repeat because there were better looking girls who I would like to try. In fact, l / see for this day, had the better looking chicas than the other clubs. I paid her $600 mx.

Not a bad start to the day, especially since I had to kill some time.

Also, I did go back to l / see after my meeting with the favorite, and I saw a slim black hair chica that looked pretty good. Before I could get to her, another monger flagged her down. I asked one of the waiters I know to let the chica know that when she was done with the other person, to come on over.

The waiter came back and said I got bad news. It looks like she was going to be tied up all night. So, I asked him what her name was and he said Camille.

So if anyone knows her, is she worth seeking out for the next time?

By the way, after hooking up with the favorita and enjoying every minute with her, she was hungry so I suggested the tapas place at Caesars hotel that someone had recommended here. We got there around 21:30 and I guess it's closed on Sunday. Bummer, so we tried next door to the main restaurant and unfourtunately they just closed also.

We didn't want to travel far so we ended up at Sanborns. Not highly recommended by me. It was okay, but nothing else. Bland and not cheap. What was good was plenty of room to eat and relax. I told my favorita, next time, we eat first then we do the boom boom. LOL.

Since it was the end of the holiday, there was more traffic going back home than I ever saw in a long time. Thank heavens, I have my Global entry card. It is worth it's weight in gold.

But today, it was a hastle just to get to the border with all the cars going back. I finally told the driver to let me off across from the hotel Pueblo Amigo, and even then it took some time because of all the traffic. Without going through the sentri line, I would have missed my train

[KC Questor]

I told my favorita, next time, we eat first then we do the boom boom. LOL.Nah, better to go hungry or eat crappy food than to try to have boom boom fun times on a full stomach. Always eat after. You work up an appetite that way!

[Uncle Al]

Any info on massage palors in Tijuana, thanks.

[Chator]

Any info on massage palors in Tijuana, thanks.What info are you looking for? Locations? Quality of service? Cost? Maybe a thread should be started on that topic?

[Phordphan]

Any info on massage palors in Tijuana, thanks.There are two legit places on Revu, Azteca and Viva Mex. Do a search of the board for more info.

I think there is only one left in the Zona. Mermaids. Again, search the board for more infor. Reviews have been so-so. I don't think the one on Coahuila and Revu is still around.

There is one on 7th, near Ticuan Hotel. New Body, I think? Search for it, there are a couple of good reviews.

Tijuana is really not the place for massage parlors.

[Artisttyp]

Any info on massage palors in Tijuana, thanks.If you want a straight up "no sex" massage VivaMex on Calle 4 and Revolucion is very professional. I get my massages there. Recently I was down for 3 weeks and had at least two a week. Professional talented cute looking (for the most part) and good at what they do. Just make sure you specify what type of a massage you want so they can match you up with the right girl. I used Daniella several times for a strong massage.

If you are after a massage place with happy endings I would re consider the idea. There is no need to do that in Tijuana. Chicas are widely available at the bars escort agencies and on the streets. You would probably be paying more when you include the up sells. You can always negotiate a massage as part of your session in bar like HK if that is what gets you off. However you would need to account for the limited time you have in the room.

I like to get a legit massage $35 for the hr at Viva Mex then go hunting right after. There are showers and towels there for you. Nothing beats having an hour long massage knowing that immediately afterwards you will be having yet another massage but of a different kind.

Many ways to play with it. I just wouldn't go to the massage places for sex. This is coming from someone who has never been to one in Tijuana but I have heard about the routine.

[Monolith]

If you want a straight up "no sex" massage VivaMex on Calle 4 and Revolucion is very professional. I get my massages there. Recently I was down for 3 weeks and had at least two a week. Professional talented cute looking (for the most part) and good at what they do. Just make sure you specify what type of a massage you want so they can match you up with the right girl. I used Daniella several times for a strong massage.

If you are after a massage place with happy endings I would re consider the idea. There is no need to do that in Tijuana. Chicas are widely available at the bars escort agencies and on the streets. You would probably be paying more when you include the up sells. You can always negotiate a massage as part of your session in bar like HK if that is what gets you off. However you would need to account for the limited time you have in the room.

I like to get a legit massage $35 for the hr at Viva Mex then go hunting right after. There are showers and towels there for you. Nothing beats having an hour long massage knowing that immediately afterwards you will be having yet another massage but of a different kind.

Many ways to play with it. I just wouldn't go to the massage places for sex. This is coming from someone who has never been to one in Tijuana but I have heard about the routine.There's one that trumps VivaMex and its name is Namaste Spa. It's between 2nd and 3rd St on Revolucion next to El Torito. The prices and massage quality are the same. But I feel that Namaste has a better facility and amenities.

[SeanBig]

Well back in Tijuana after my "Mexican penpal" AKA fake GF begged me to come back for a week since I was last there in Feb. She promised she would take the week off for me (liar) but of course the week before I came stated that "Sorry I have to make money and have to work all week". Before coming to San Diego I have to think of ways to kill time in the USA since I won't be having the vacation for a week IN Tijuana with chica as previously thought. So I buy game 6 tickets to the nba playoffs in LA (if LA doesn't lose game 5)

Monday- get into San Diego, get rental car and drive to San Ysidro hotel. Check in and watch NBA game. Lakers lose (so no playoff game for me)

Initial plan was to meet spinner / chica at her work at 3am, but she calls me at 10pm saying she didn't go to work as her nephew was spending time with her. Asked me if I wanted to come over to her place. I smile inside and say yes, lets meet at Mcdonalds near border around 11pm.

Stupid me, feeling giddy and thinking maybe I have a chance, get lost walking to border from hotel, and realize at the border that I forgot my passport at the hotel. Good thing I remembered, or else I would be in a lot of sh*T especially since I am not american. Luckily, I call chica, tell her I am dumb and she agrees to meet me at midnight.

Eventually find passport back at hotel, and walk back to border and wait for her at mcdonalds'. Finally see her and her sleeping nephew and we go back to her place. Nephew, her and me all share her bed, so no action tonight:P Just some tongue action and the nephew seems jealous.

Tues- wake up and realize I have no idea WTF the kid is saying as I don't understand no spanish I wash up and we all go for breakfast in some restaurant near the coast. Food is ok and ends up being $20 for all 3 of us. Music in the restaurant is really loud. THen the rest of the day is spent following chica, her nephew and an older lady around Sears, while she looks for shirts and toys to buy for the boy. I play dumb as there is no Fking way I am paying for those presents. She ends up shelling out like 2500 pesos for some stupid electric car for the boy. He is estactic. Then we finally dump the nephew back at his house so we can be alone.

We go back to her place, and start making out in her bed, DFK CLothes come off, and we go miss, then cowgirl and scissors and then release outside. I am hesistant making love with her since I don't have a cover, but she assures me that she has "my heart" and I am her "mi amor". She then calls one of her "regulars" and it is awkward as it sounds exactlly what she's says when she calls me.

We shower together and clean up. Her place is quite nice, with 2 tvs. 1 nice flatscreen tv in her bedroom that some previous cliente bought her from Christmas 2 years ago. AFter talking to her more, I realize that she was lying when she said she had only been working 4 months (instead of the actual fact of 6 years at AB) and that all her prior boyfriends were just previous clientes. She hints that if I wasn't married then she would consider me as her bf, and says she hates sharing men (I think. What the hell do you do at work then?)

Anyway we end out ending delivery italian food that her taxi driver brings, along with some extra groceries (the taxi man asks me for $50US. Ouch). That night we end up talking for a little bit but I can't remember if we did anything else.

Wed- wake up. Chica tells me she is waiting for men to come fix her fridge. After they finally come, we eat leftovers and then back to more lovingmaking. I ask her if she wants to have kids, but she says not right now. I end up doing the deed inside, and she says she doesn't want to go to work. But realizes a couple of her "regulars" have already made plans with her later that evening. I realize that this relationship, or whatever it is is Fcuked up but hey I guess she needs to make a living. I tell her I plan to go back to Diego and we make plans to meet up at 4am after she is done work.

That night I go back to diego, go the the coach outlet and pick out a purse for her, since I stayed at her place. Cross back the border at 130am and first hit HK when I talk to a ferrari girl but don't go arriva. I cross over to Adelita by 3am. But no sign of my chica.

I text her at 4am and she finally calls me, saying she has been in the VIP all night and very busy, and very drunk. She tells me that one dude wanted to pay her 1K to go on vacation with her, but she declined as she knew I was waiting for her. After a few drinks I tell her I want to go take a trip, and she says it's ok but wants like 1K if she doesn't work Friday / sat and sun. She says that if she didn't have to support her parents and sibs in central america, then it wouldn't be as big a deal.

I suck it up and say fine, lets go for trip. And she is ecstatic.

Thurs- it is 6am at adelita. I am dead tired, and she is hung over. She calls a cab, we go back to her place and pick up clothes and take the cab to ensensada. Fare is 100.

Go to the resort and book 2 days. $250.

Finally reach room and sleep / but not before getting some breakfast $30 (I was like WTF. $30)

Sex / nap / sex / nap and then walk on the beach. It is damn cold as I think there is a hurricane along the west coast making the temperatures a lot lower. We have mexican sushi for dinner ($80) and retreat back to the room, where we watch nice mexican music videos, and she argues over the fact that I have a wife and she doesn't trust me. I get mad, call the operator and try to see if I can cancel the next night, because no way I am paying for an extra night if biatch is upset and still have to give her $$$

Fri- we end up making up and stay the 2nd day. More sleeping and fcuking.

Sat- we go back to Tijuana; she wants to go back to work, but we ending up sleeping together and spend the entire evening watching movies in her bedroom.

Sun- a quickie before I head back to the border and back to my hotel in san diego and fly back up north. I end up giving the chica the rest of my money (500us) but I don't think she carried too much. She tells me that previously a month ago she wanted to go out with a white boy but didn't like him, and is why she seemed distant on the phone.

Now that I am back home, with my own family, own career. Me and chica still keep contact via email (the reason she is named penpal)

Questions:

1) What kind of relationship is this? Is she real when she says her heart is lost and crazy for me or am I just stupid. I guess I never really paid for sex, although paid for everything else.

2) She asks me to move to San Diego so we can meet more often but no way I want to move because my job is pretty good. She says she feels bad for my wife and kids, but still wants me?

3) Should I just stop communicating with her and just look for her again if I go back to Tijuana next time? (she has no papers to go to US for now)

[Joe Arturo]

Questions:

1) What kind of relationship is this? Is she real when she says her heart is lost and crazy for me or am I just stupid. I guess I never really paid for sex, although paid for everything else.

2) She asks me to move to San Diego so we can meet more often but no way I want to move because my job is pretty good. She says she feels bad for my wife and kids, but still wants me?

3) Should I just stop communicating with her and just look for her again if I go back to Tijuana next time? (she has no papers to go to US for now) 1) This is not a relationship. I have fallen for this tactic more times than I want to admit. You are stupid if you really believe what she is saying. I have also been stupid in this way. YOU REALLY DID PAY FOR SEX. $1, 000 for the weekend and $500 when you left will get you laid at least 25 times in Tijuana.

2) She doesn't want you. She just wants your money. That is her job. To separate you from your money. And has already done a pretty good job at it with you.

3) It will be difficult to do, but you should stop communicating with her. Nothing she tells you will ever be real. These girls are great actresses and in the end you will have a lot less money and will end up being hurt. Play the field in Tijuana and get to know a variety of women. Do not concentrate on just one!

What she is doing with you has been done to me and it took me a long time to learn to not fall for their tactics. They start out including you with their family to make you feel special. The next thing you know you are supporting her so that she will only be with you. The fact is that she will only be with you when you are in Tijuana. She will not give up her other clients when you are not there. Some family member will have an emergency sickness and she will have to send money to them somewhere else in Mexico. She will need a flatscreen TV or a car or a boob job or something else that is real expensive.

My advice is to forget about relationships with these women unless it is purely a friendship relationship which I have with several gals in Tijuana and Mexicali. But there is no lies or love or anything else except friendship. But don't try to be friends with this one. She has already lied to you and started down the path that you don't want to be on.

A prostitute friend in Mexicali once advised me not to fall for a prostitute. Her theory is that a prostitute does not have the capability of loving you back because she does not love herself otherwise she would no be a prostitute. And a person that does not love theirself is not capable of loving others. These gals all have had really bad experiences with men in their past and deep down inside want to get revenge.

My advice is to have fun and get laid several times with several of them, but never fully trust anything that they are saying.

You can choose to follow or ignore my advice, but I am giving you the best advice that over 10 years of mongering in Mexico experience can give.

Is this spinner from Michiocan with a taxi driver named Juan?

Be careful but have fun!

[Artisttyp]

There's one that trumps VivaMex and its name is Namaste Spa. It's between 2nd and 3rd St on Revolucion next to El Torito. The prices and massage quality are the same. But I feel that Namaste has a better facility and amenities.I know the place but never went inside. I get a full hour for $25 at VivaMex. Can't trump that!

[Chator]

For massages with happy endings, the three most famous places in la zona, are mermaids, purple rain, and luxor. Quality of service really depends on the girl, and none claim to offer a professional massage. Purple rain's prices can be found on their website, mermaids offers $35 massages, extras not included, luxor offers $45-55 massages, extras not included. The extras are negotiated with the girl, massage prices include time in the room with the girl of your choice only.

[Phordphan]

Questions:

1) What kind of relationship is this? Is she real when she says her heart is lost and crazy for me or am I just stupid. I guess I never really paid for sex, although paid for everything else.

2) She asks me to move to San Diego so we can meet more often but no way I want to move because my job is pretty good. She says she feels bad for my wife and kids, but still wants me?

3) Should I just stop communicating with her and just look for her again if I go back to Tijuana next time? (she has no papers to go to US for now) First, I couldn't tell. Did you pay $1K for the weekend, AND $500 extra? Or just the $500?

Unless she is truly the cream of the crop, there is little chance she pulls down $1K on a weekend. That's like 6 arribas per shift, assuming average pricing. Sure, it can be done, but supply always exceeds demand in these places. Never take at face value what one of these girls says she makes, unless you've known her for a very long time.

Now.

1) Do you really need to ask? I think you already know the answer. She may like you, you may get along well together, but that's it. You are hearing what you want to hear, and that is dangerous.

2) All guys should ask themselves, before hooking up long-term with a working girl,"What do I bring to the party, and what does she bring?" You have a good job, wife and kids. She works in a hooker bar, has zero education, kids, a nice body and a pussy. Will you give up what you have to acquire what she has? Is this equitable? When she throws you out in 5 years, will it have been worth it? Again, you already know the answers.

3) Blow her off. You won't be the first guy, nor the last, to do that. It's really hard, and we've all had to do it. But, again, you already knew that. Oh, and the odds of her getting papers is really, really slim.

Joe A had good advice. Follow it. I, too, have been sorely tempted by girls from another country. BUt, in the end, after lots of introspection and lots of considering what I said in #2 above, I bailed. I'm much happier that I did, and you will be too.

[SeanBig]

Yeah I paid her $500 plus meals and everything else.

She says she knows she is stupid for liking a married man but doesn't

Want to listen to her friends.

I know what I am doing is dumb, but am addicted.


First, I couldn't tell. Did you pay $1K for the weekend, AND $500 extra? Or just the $500?

Unless she is truly the cream of the crop, there is little chance she pulls down $1K on a weekend. That's like 6 arribas per shift, assuming average pricing. Sure, it can be done, but supply always exceeds demand in these places. Never take at face value what one of these girls says she makes, unless you've known her for a very long time.

Now.

1) Do you really need to ask? I think you already know the answer. She may like you, you may get along well together, but that's it. You are hearing what you want to hear, and that is dangerous.

2) All guys should ask themselves, before hooking up long-term with a working girl,"What do I bring to the party, and what does she bring?" You have a good job, wife and kids. She works in a hooker bar, has zero education, kids, a nice body and a pussy. Will you give up what you have to acquire what she has? Is this equitable? When she throws you out in 5 years, will it have been worth it? Again, you already know the answers.

3) Blow her off. You won't be the first guy, nor the last, to do that. It's really hard, and we've all had to do it. But, again, you already knew that. Oh, and the odds of her getting papers is really, really slim.

Joe A had good advice. Follow it. I, too, have been sorely tempted by girls from another country. BUt, in the end, after lots of introspection and lots of considering what I said in #2 above, I bailed. I'm much happier that I did, and you will be too.

[HorseTrader]

1) What kind of relationship is this?A good prostitute is one who makes you feel that the two of you are in love while using you as a walking ATM. Your penpal is a very good prostitute.

I have to commend Phordphan and Joe Arturo, they both did a great job of explaining all the details.

About a month ago I visited the zone many times over a 2-week period. On two successive days I went arriba with one of the HK girls and she promissed that she loved me and only me. She invited me to spend the night with her in her Tijuana apartment (I declined). On the third day I wanted something different. I actually felt a little guilty walking out the door with another girl while she watched from one of the mini stages. She is another good prostitute.

[Keg]

Well back in Tijuana after my "Mexican penpal" AKA fake GF begged me to come back for a week since I was last there in Feb. She promised she would take the week off for me (liar) but of course the week before I came stated that "Sorry I have to make money.she assures me that she has "my heart" and I am her "mi amor". She then calls one of her "regulars" and it is awkward as it sounds exactlly what she's says when she calls me.SeanBig.

HorseTrader, Phordphan & Joe Arturo have been quite thorough in their analysis and advice, so I won't beat a dead horse with my own personal stories about similar situations, so I will just say 'ditto'.

Chances are pretty high that if she's been working at AB for the past 6 years that someone on here has been hitting that ass too. I personally don't have a single set type, I like them all; voluptuous, tall & thin, and little spinners, so I'm curious if she's one that I know.

What does she look like & what is her name?

[SeanBig]

Appreciate the feedback fellas. She goes by the name zuwane and is real skinny

About 5'5 brunette with long hair. Always wears yoga pants

I know I need to stop but the GFE is too good. Dammit.


SeanBig.

HorseTrader, Phordphan & Joe Arturo have been quite thorough in their analysis and advice, so I won't beat a dead horse with my own personal stories about similar situations, so I will just say 'ditto'.

Chances are pretty high that if she's been working at AB for the past 6 years that someone on here has been hitting that ass too. I personally don't have a single set type, I like them all; voluptuous, tall & thin, and little spinners, so I'm curious if she's one that I know.

What does she look like & what is her name?

[Joe Arturo]

Appreciate the feedback fellas. She goes by the name zuwane and is real skinny

About 5'5 brunette with long hair. Always wears yoga pants

I know I need to stop but the GFE is too good. Dammit.I have GFE with just about every gal that I am with here in Tijuana. So don't give your soul away just for GFE. The good providers will always give you GFE. You just have to learn to weed the good providers out from the bad ones.

[Mj In Jax]

I text her at 4am and she finally calls me, saying she has been in the VIP all night and very busy, and very drunk. She tells me that one dude wanted to pay her 1K to go on vacation with her, but she declined as she knew I was waiting for her. After a few drinks I tell her I want to go take a trip, and she says it's ok but wants like 1K if she doesn't work Friday / sat and sun. She says that if she didn't have to support her parents and sibs in central america, then it wouldn't be as big a deal.

I suck it up and say fine, lets go for trip. And she is ecstatic.SeanBig – I am not going to get down on you too much but there is something that I think I need to point out to you. The quote above where she told you that someone offered her 1k to take a trip is a sales / negotiation tactic used by every salesman, hooker, and stripper in the world. Regardless of whether the offer was real or not, by telling you that she 1) Set her price level for the weekend. 2) built a sense of urgency in you to take her before someone else did, and 3) set her expectations of what you needed to do to get her time (go on a trip).

The proper response to her telling you this would have been to say:

'Honey you are defiantly worth 1k for a weekend trip and I know that you need the money. This is more than I was planning on spending so maybe you should take the other gentleman up on his offer. Since you will be busy I will just go home early and spend time with my family. '

That reply tells her. 1) that you will not be spending that kind of cash on her without bruising her ego. 2) it also serves to tell her that you are willing to walk away if you think she is being to demanding, and 3) that you have other options also.

Once you caved in to her demands I can guarantee you that she lost a lot of respect for you. You gave her all the leverage in the negotiations at that point. What is my point you may ask, my point is that at the time you caved in you destroyed your chance of having a relationship with this woman. You built the expectation that you will do what she wants and when you don't from now on this will cause problems between you. Every time you do not do what she wants she will make you miserable until she gets it. Once you lose the respect of a woman (working girl or not) the relationship is over and you need to say good bye.

The previous posters were correct, time to say goodbye and move on.

[Bill]

Forgot where I saw this scenario (dumb and dumber?) but will repeat as it may be appropriate.

The guy asks the hottie if there is a chance they could get together and she replies maybe "one in a million".

He walks away happy and smiling because statistically there is still a chance.

You had your fun and your fantasy double life. You got what you paid for. Now it seems you are wanting more and more.

I think you had a great experience like a crack high and you will be chasing it and judging others by this new standard.

Be happy but don't fool yourself because none of us on this site are Brad Pitt and fucking miss universe GFE style day in and day out will eventually get old.

Just my twisted take. Maybe she loves you and only you and ride into the beautiful sunset together forever in story book bliss.

[Bill]

Forgot where I saw this scenario (dumb and dumber?) but will repeat as it may be appropriate.

The guy asks the hottie if there is a chance they could get together and she replies maybe "one in a million".

He walks away happy and smiling because statistically there is still a chance.

You had your fun and your fantasy double life. You got what you paid for. Now it seems you are wanting more and more.

I think you had a great experience like a crack high and you will be chasing it and judging others by this new standard.

Be happy but don't fool yourself because none of us on this site are Brad Pitt and fucking miss universe GFE style day in and day out will eventually get old.

Just my twisted take. Maybe she loves you and only you and ride into the beautiful sunset together forever in story book bliss.

[Baxter Slade]

1) They start out including you with their family to make you feel special.I do enjoy reading about the topic of getting feelings for and falling for a Tijuana prostitute. And I must say after becoming a regular reader of this forum there is alot of good advice out there. I'am also willing to say if you could earn a doctorate in Mexican hooker, client relationships Joe Arturo has earned his. So I would carefully reread the info he has provided.

Since I have not listened to all the advice out there and find myself still involved with the same BG, I do find my feelings for her growing stronger each time we are together. While she is somewhere in her late 30's and the years of 20 fichas a day has caught up with her there is something very special about her personality, that keeps me coming back to her instead of nailing those hot young spinners that are in abundance down in the zona. But enough of that.

The thing that I have to question in our releationship is why she has not included me in the life of her family. So when I read the post from Joe it hit me that. That was a big part of what was missing in our relationship. And I'am not sure why since from what I have read it is not that uncommon for a girl to bring a regular into her family life.

So I will continue to ride this relationship out, and will always be on the look out for those warning signs that involve money. Even though it feels like I'am falling deeper into a trap, I will say that fantasy double life that Bill mentioned is quite addicting.

[Joe Arturo]

The thing that I have to question in our releationship is why she has not included me in the life of her family. So when I read the post from Joe it hit me that. That was a big part of what was missing in our relationship. And I'am not sure why since from what I have read it is not that uncommon for a girl to bring a regular into her family life.This usually means that the gal has man living with her. This is quite common.

[SeanBig]

I do want to thank all the people posting their opinions. No where else can I tell people that I am falling for a hooker in Mexico. They would think I am fcuking crazy and ignore me.

I do honestly believe that not everything she does is out of money. She tells me that every other day there is another guy that tells her to quit her job and follow her for 100k. She tells me that she values love above money.

She tells me that chicas that she works with say she is crazy for not going for money, and that they are jealous of how successful she seems to be at work. To be honest she isn't a stunner, but very sure of herself and probably a little cold.

She tells me that her last bf was some rich Korean man and she quit her job for him, and stayed at home for him, but later regretted that he left her.

She keeps fantasizing about her first japanese ex that lived with her for 4 years, but eventually cocaine got in the way.

I do think she does genuinely like me. But not love me. She has mentioned in the past at why she hates herself for "falling" for a man with kids, somewhere far far away. She states she is Jealous that another woman shares my heart,

And when I told her I had to go to a family trip to california, she got really really jealous. So I don't blame her for looking out for herself and trying other guys.

I think in my mind it is very clear that we will never have the fairytale Pretty Woman movie ending, however I think the fact that someone younger than you, seems to be so into you is very very attractive.

I agree there is acting on her part and probably on mine too. I think at sometime she will wake up and realize that I am not quiting my good job to live in HOnduras or whatever with her when she "retires"

Financially speaking, the time that she uses to email / talk to me everyday probably is a waste of her time; I live 3000 miles away from Tijuana, can probably only see her 3 times a year and at most she can get? 1k from me per week. Factoring in the time she spends it probably adds up to like $200 / day which for her is probably not much.

I am not her friend; if I were I would tell her not to mess around with a married guy with kids. I am also ok with her working as that is her Only means for a very good mexican income.

I guess I am investing more time and emotions than money and I guess my heart will hurt the more I "invest"; I think she might be more genunine if I wasn't married, but then I would probably be more gulliable and hope that we could really be together.

And that would really really hurt.

[SeanBig]

I guess what I enjoy the most is having a local tour guide, showing me around the city without knowing the language.

Staying in her place, seeing where she keeps her money. She seems to have a level head (ie knows her goal is to send money back to Hondoras.

To support her family) and doesn't smoke, drink and hates watching porn (which I find odd). Then she tells me that her ex-japanese bf used to get high in the

Washroom on coke and watch porn in the washroom while masturbating and that is probably why. She tells me that she jerks off to my pic sometimes. Whatever.

She tells me that she tried to go to school but eventually quit.

I dunno. I think I will "play along" for a bit longer, but I guess if I weren't such an ass I should just stop talking to her.

[Joe Arturo]

Just as a reminder to myself I reread some of my old posts on the Mexicali board and came across a post (from January 2007) about summarizing an article in the Mexicali newspaper about one of my worst experiences. I am quoting it here as it seems to pertain to the latest thread on this board:

"Summary of Newspaper Article

What happened is that I was living with Lupita. I have known her for 3 years and lived with her on and off during that time. We were really good friends. We were friends for 6 months before we even had sex and although she was a puta, I never had to pay her. But I did end up paying her with my soul.

Wed, Nov 22 she woke me up at 5 AM, said she had a stomach ache and was going to Oxxo (a store like 7-11 thats open 24 hours) to buy apples and herbal tea to help calm her stomach. She did not return. At about 11:30 AM she sent me a text message that she had been kidnapped and that they would kill her if I went to the police. At 9 PM I received a text message from her phone saying that they wanted $30, 000 for her life. I sent a text message back saying that I wanted to talk to Lupita to make sure she was still alive. I received no reply, so I went to the Ministero Publico (district attorney) to report that she had been kidnapped.

It turned out that she had not been kidnapped. She was trying to rip me off for the $30, 000. When the agents found her, she was fucking a drug dealer. They are both going to prison for 7 to 15 years.

I am now paying for a psychologist for her kids who are now living with their grandmother. She has a 14 year old daughter and a 12 year old son that are both great human beings but are suffering a lot for what their mother did.

LESSON LEARNED!"

They are both still in prison. They got sentenced to 9 years 7 months. Back in 2006 when this happened the sentence for autosecuestro (self kidnapping) was a minimum of 7 years and a maximum of 15 years. Since then, the law has changed and now it is a minimum of 12 years. I hope this post will help all of those on this board who are getting "free" sex from these hookers and/or are thinking about a relationship with one of them.

[Sock111]

Appreciate the feedback fellas. She goes by the name zuwane and is real skinny

About 5'5 brunette with long hair. Always wears yoga pants

I know I need to stop but the GFE is too good. Dammit.I don't usually post pics of girls but I don't want to see fellow mongers make poor choices. Is this the girl you are talking about?

[SeanBig]

I don't usually post pics of girls but I don't want to see fellow mongers make poor choices. Is this the girl you are talking about?Yeah I think so.

[Magic Rancher]

I appreciate the sincerity of your questions. There have been excellent responses by HorseTrader, Phordphan, MJ in Jax and especially Joe Arturo. Here's my perspective: In the States women have considerable control of whether men get sex or not. The US legal system mandates that all sex is to be consensual and at the same time outlaws prostitution. This effectively limits and restricts access to recreational sexual activities. But this is reversed across the border.

Around seven years ago I made my first travels to the pay for play world in Mexicali and Tijuana. Because I spent a great deal of time in Imperial County, it wasn't long before I became a regular with an attractive spinner (Roxette) in Miau Miau. Getting her in bed made me believe that I was somehow special. We would meet at hotels and various places around the town and even out of town with her friends. I remember one night at Miau on my birthday how extra sweet and thoughtful she was to have even brought over a cake. We ate, drank and partied until about 2 am when my cash had run through. Since closing time wasn't until 3 am, she excused herself and promptly moved over to the next available paying client. It doesn't get much more obvious than this to show that the girl "is working."

I wish I had learned then that for the girl it's always about the money. But that's another story. What I do understand now is that there is a limitless supply of young, attractive latinas minutes across the border who are anxiously waiting to trade some cash for your fantasies. Because sex is more open across the border, you have control unlike in the States. The next girl is just a kiss away. There is no reason to believe having good mongering times is anything other than that. It is certainly not worth losing a job, a wife or your sanity. Enjoy the freedom that is prohibited by our closed society.


We go back to her place, and start making out in her bed, DFK CLothes come off, and we go miss, then cowgirl and scissors and then release outside. I am hesistant making love with her since I don't have a cover, but she assures me that she has "my heart" and I am her "mi amor". She then calls one of her "regulars" and it is awkward as it sounds exactlly what she's says when she calls me.

We shower together and clean up. Her place is quite nice, with 2 tvs. 1 nice flatscreen tv in her bedroom that some previous cliente bought her from Christmas 2 years ago. AFter talking to her more, I realize that she was lying when she said she had only been working 4 months (instead of the actual fact of 6 years at AB) and that all her prior boyfriends were just previous clientes. She hints that if I wasn't married then she would consider me as her bf, and says she hates sharing men (I think. What the hell do you do at work then?)

Questions:

1) What kind of relationship is this? Is she real when she says her heart is lost and crazy for me or am I just stupid. I guess I never really paid for sex, although paid for everything else.

2) She asks me to move to San Diego so we can meet more often but no way I want to move because my job is pretty good. She says she feels bad for my wife and kids, but still wants me?

3) Should I just stop communicating with her and just look for her again if I go back to Tijuana next time? (she has no papers to go to US for now)

[DeepMmpactt]

i appreciate the sincerity of your questions. there have been excellent responses by horsetrader, phordphan, mj in jax and especially joe arturo. here's my perspective: in the states women have considerable control of whether men get sex or not. the us legal system mandates that all sex is to be consensual and at the same time outlaws prostitution. this effectively limits and restricts access to recreational sexual activities. but this is reversed across the border.

around seven years ago i made my first travels to the pay for play world in mexicali and tijuana. because i spent a great deal of time in imperial county, it wasn't long before i became a regular with an attractive spinner (roxette) in miau miau. getting her in bed made me believe that i was somehow special. we would meet at hotels and various places around the town and even out of town with her friends. i remember one night at miau on my birthday how extra sweet and thoughtful she was to have even brought over a cake. we ate, drank and partied until about 2 am when my cash had run through. since closing time wasn't until 3 am, she excused herself and promptly moved over to the next available paying client. it doesn't get much more obvious than this to show that the girl "is working."

i wish i had learned then that for the girl it's always about the money. but that's another story. what i do understand now is that there is a limitless supply of young, attractive latinas minutes across the border who are anxiously waiting to trade some cash for your fantasies. because sex is more open across the border, you have control unlike in the states. the next girl is just a kiss away. there is no reason to believe having good mongering times is anything other than that. it is certainly not worth losing a job, a wife or your sanity. enjoy the freedom that is prohibited by our closed society.tell you what guys, if seanbig aint listening to your timely advice, me deepmmpactt is defitnitely listening, wow i'm completely speechless, reading you guys horror stories of so called 'the one', we all think we are 'different' and somehow, we have succeeded, where time and time others have failed. when in the end we get the same results, as others tried to warn us about. we are 'shocked' that the same thing happen to us. shocking!

if you always do what you've done, youll always get what you've gotten thats a rude awakening, thing a person is really into you. they even bring a cake. everythings just 'perfect'but when the money ran out, so did she. that wouldve probaly hurt my feeling. like this american girl i used to see would always say. romance without finance is a absolute nuisance. no money no honey' she's a working girl. no george no bush. she's pay per view. no greenery no scenery. lol!

thanks again my monger brothers for sharing personal intimate encounters, if no one here doesn't learn from your expieriences i pledge i deepmmpactt will learn and better myself concerning these situation.

[SeanBig]

I think if I keeping on reading this over and over; maybe if I do that, then I wouldn't do anything stupid.

1) She keeps on mentioning that her sister works in the morning and is nice. Maybe I should try her?

2) I think I should stop calling her and emailing her, and only respond if called, so I am not so "Desperate" and delusional.

3) She will only get older, and you guys are right. At some time the banging will get old.

4) I do realize that money is her number 1, 2 and 3 priority. So why like me when I told her from the get-go that I was attached? She says that her heart is "not a rock" and still has feelings.

I guess she wants a sweet sugar daddy, not just any sugar daddy.

[Sock111]

Yeah I think so.Zwane was one of my favorites, but she is the insanely jealous type. Very distrusting. Her story is a sad one. She disappears from Adelitas when she finds someone to support her, but believe me when I tell you she still see's her regulars. She returns from time to time when she needs money.

I hate to break it to you but if all you know is what Zwane has told you then you know very little. I think that hearing this from someone who has been with Zwane will carry more weight. She is a working girl. I don't think she is intentionally playing you, I just think that from her perspective that is how a relationship works. What you feel for her is definitely not what she feels for you. She can never return your feelings because she now see's her body as a commodity. Ask yourself some questions. Do you know her real name? How many kids she has? Her sisters name? How long she's been working the scene? You will never have her to yourself if you can't take her out of the zona. You should ask her the story of how she first got started, the girl she told me about is so different from the girl is she today. I can't say I know everything, but from what she's told me on top of what other "staff members" have told me about her, most of the pieces fit. You will be surprised at the wealth of information you can get from the Meseros to the cum boys.

My advice to you is to enjoy her, she is providing you with services that she only provides to a small circle of regulars. But keep it in your mind that you are just a VIP client. You are not the love of her life.

[Bill]

I do want to thank all the people posting their opinions. No where else can I tell people that I am falling for a hooker in Mexico. They would think I am fcuking crazy and ignore me.

I do honestly believe that not everything she does is out of money. She tells me that every other day there is another guy that tells her to quit her job and follow her for 100k. She tells me that she values love above money.

She tells me that chicas that she works with say she is crazy for not going for money, and that they are jealous of how successful she seems to be at work. To be honest she isn't a stunner, but very sure of herself and probably a little cold.

She tells me that her last bf was some rich Korean man and she quit her job for him, and stayed at home for him, but later regretted that he left her.

She keeps fantasizing about her first japanese ex that lived with her for 4 years, but eventually cocaine got in the way.

I do think she does genuinely like me. But not love me. She has mentioned in the past at why she hates herself for "falling" for a man with kids, somewhere far far away. She states she is Jealous that another woman shares my heart,

And when I told her I had to go to a family trip to california, she got really really jealous. So I don't blame her for looking out for herself and trying other guys.

I think in my mind it is very clear that we will never have the fairytale Pretty Woman movie ending, however I think the fact that someone younger than you, seems to be so into you is very very attractive.

I agree there is acting on her part and probably on mine too. I think at sometime she will wake up and realize that I am not quiting my good job to live in HOnduras or whatever with her when she "retires"

Financially speaking, the time that she uses to email / talk to me everyday probably is a waste of her time; I live 3000 miles away from Tijuana, can probably only see her 3 times a year and at most she can get? 1k from me per week. Factoring in the time she spends it probably adds up to like $200 / day which for her is probably not much.

I am not her friend; if I were I would tell her not to mess around with a married guy with kids. I am also ok with her working as that is her Only means for a very good mexican income.

I guess I am investing more time and emotions than money and I guess my heart will hurt the more I "invest"; I think she might be more genunine if I wasn't married, but then I would probably be more gulliable and hope that we could really be together.

And that would really really hurt.Dude,

Do you really need this drama in your life? Listen to yourself. Why are you even spending all this time wondering what she is thinking, what is your next move, etc.

Did anyone tell you she's just a crafty hooker? Very good at separating money from men. Yeah, she's a person, but when you met her she was a W HORE.

Man up, and figure out what the real problem is here.

You get too involved with this hobby and your real life will come crashing down. (Maybe its what you really want)

[Joe Arturo]

I do honestly believe that not everything she does is out of money. She tells me that every other day there is another guy that tells her to quit her job and follow her for 100k. She tells me that she values love above money.


She is really good at her job if you really believe this. And you are further down the wrong path than I originally believed.

Please stop believing that what she tells you is the truth. You need to know that you cannot believe anything that any of these girls tell you.

It appears to me that you will end up learning the lesson the hard way like I did. I hope not.

[Joe Arturo]

Around seven years ago I made my first travels to the pay for play world in Mexicali and Tijuana. Because I spent a great deal of time in Imperial County, it wasn't long before I became a regular with an attractive spinner (Roxette) in Miau Miau.Wow! I haven't thought about Roxette for years. She was one of the best. This means that you were in Mexicali at the same time that I was living there. That was back when I had my bar in Mexicali. Did you ever go to Bar Pajaritas that later changed its name to Bar Excalibur?

[SeanBig]

Zwane was one of my favorites, but she is the insanely jealous type. Very distrusting. Her story is a sad one. She disappears from Adelitas when she finds someone to support her, but believe me when I tell you she still see's her regulars. She returns from time to time when she needs money.

I hate to break it to you but if all you know is what Zwane has told you then you know very little. I think that hearing this from someone who has been with Zwane will carry more weight. She is a working girl. I don't think she is intentionally playing you, I just think that from her perspective that is how a relationship works. What you feel for her is definitely not what she feels for you. She can never return your feelings because she now see's her body as a commodity. Ask yourself some questions. Do you know her real name? How many kids she has? Her sisters name? How long she's been working the scene? You will never have her to yourself if you can't take her out of the zona. You should ask her the story of how she first got started, the girl she told me about is so different from the girl is she today. I can't say I know everything, but from what she's told me on top of what other "staff members" have told me about her, most of the pieces fit. You will be surprised at the wealth of information you can get from the Meseros to the cum boys.

My advice to you is to enjoy her, she is providing you with services that she only provides to a small circle of regulars. But keep it in your mind that you are just a VIP client. You are not the love of her life.Thanks man.

Yeah I have only spoken to her and soon realized that her sense of reality is kinda fcuked up. Because being taken care of and given everything is the only relationships she has ever had.

You are right about the insanely jealous stuff.

She has told me stuff, in broken pieces. Which when put together sounds like this.

1) grew up in poor central American country- had a bf and wanted to save sex for him, only to have her heart broken when he dumped her for another girl at school.

2) has sex with the next guy she meets and gets pregnant at 16 with twins-doesn't marry that guy even though his family is rich because she just doesn't love him.

3) disappears for a while then has kids and her mother basically raises them.

4) goes to Mexico to make money and I suspect working at adelitas.

5) meets first bf at Adelitas within months of working-he moves in with her and she keeps working at ab and he crosses the border daily to work in USA

6) Japanese bf eventually leaves and she is sad. She has told me that a friend of hers tells me that by working as a sex worker she will never Be lonely

[SeanBig]

6) Next I think she ended up being with a rich Korean dude, actually trying to stop working for that entire period of time and devoted her time as a "housewive". He was basically a sugar daddy and gave her everything she wanted but wouldn't let her go out and drink.

Eventually he took off and left her and she was "heartbroken" since.

Then fast forward to valentine's day was when I first saw her.

After that night, we spent whole day together and she started to say how I reminded her of her first ex-japanese dude. And we went out a few times. I think she didn't work for the rest of that week because, she had been working every day and we ended up going out to the stripper bar for "fun". I thought it was likely totally fcuked up, to go there for a "date", where she was having fun with the strippers, and throwing down 1k on them when trying to get me hooked up with them.

7) Yeah I know everything you guys say is right. They have a different psychology of what is a "date"

What is a "relationship"

I know that unless I give everything up and get her out of Mexico, she will never be mine, and I know that as long as she is in Mexico she will keep on spinning her tricks and look for the next "Asian sugar daddy"

I know that a "freebie" is actually more costly than paying outright for sex

[Magic Rancher]

Ahhh Roxette. I gave her a CD of tunes with the Police song, Roxanne, so then she used to play that alot for one of her stage songs. Anyway, the last time I saw her was in Ensenada where she worked at Paris de Noche. Attached is a photo of her and friends from June 2006. And yes, I do remember Excalibar, the place close to Guau Guau and next to Mercado de Pasteles. This girl, Ambar, liked to bring me there for after hour recreation. I don't party much in Mexicali anymore because that's where my novia lives.

But let me know next time you plan to head down to Chicago Club. I'd be happy to buy you a drink.


Wow! I haven't thought about Roxette for years. She was one of the best. This means that you were in Mexicali at the same time that I was living there. That was back when I had my bar in Mexicali. Did you ever go to Bar Pajaritas that later changed its name to Bar Excalibur?

[Guitarrefreak]

For what its worth, here are my 2 pesos. Glad that you came to your conclusion in 7) , relationship / love / date / etc is all relative, what it means to us may not be the same meaning as it is to them. The common denominator is $$$ (and even that, the value is still somewhat relative, but less ambiguous, IMHO)

1) I had a girl who works on / off in the zona, only had me pay her once, but ever since then, always freebie, never asked me for money, and never calls / messages me unnecessarily. This is a great girl, but probably a horrible prostitute if she is doing the same for other guys (which I doubt / shrugs)

2) I have another girl who works very regularly in the zona, who was madly obsessed about me (ok fine, so was I to her) , but she is so full of crazies that she gets jealous when I even so much as hang out with other girls in the club, I have never directly paid her for sex, but have bought things for her (nothing expensive, and if you ask me, I am actually still ahead.). This is a decent prostitute, but a horrible potential gf.

3) then there is this ultra flaky girl, whom sex with is always so-so, but everything else, is a complete GFE (ok maybe not that much) , but the shit that she says, really makes me think that she cares about me (which, big head is telling me that it is all just words, and these girls should know by now what is it that mongers love to hear). This is a decent prostitute, and a potentially interesting gf.

4) and then a SW, whom I never have to haggle with, provides increasingly better service each time I am with her, but even when I don't take her upstairs, she always greets me with a big smile and ask me in a friendly manner how my day has been and whats up. This is a fucking great prostitute, and will never be a gf.

5) and on and on.

Anyway, my point is, given long enough time, and close enough distance, you will probably experience many more different personalities to come, and for your sake, I really hope you go through this painful (but necessary experience) in the quickest and least damaging way (both financially and emotionally) because it seems like you already reached your own conclusion, but whether you truly believe what you say, is another thing.

Incidentally, zwane does stand out in the crowd (at least to me) , never paid for her services but bought her a drink before, I would say, given how she talks to me about my regulars, I would say she is not a 'bad' person per se. Ie, I don't think she is maliciously scheming anything, but you will most likely find that whatever way she intends to guide this relationship, may not be something you will be able to cope with.

Stay healthy, stay sane.


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7) Yeah I know everything you guys say is right. They have a different psychology of what is a "date"

What is a "relationship"

I know that unless I give everything up and get her out of Mexico, she will never be mine, and I know that as long as she is in Mexico she will keep on spinning her tricks and look for the next "Asian sugar daddy"

I know that a "freebie" is actually more costly than paying outright for sex

[AmanteDeLatina]

In the past I have mongered in Nogales, Los Algodones and Mexicali and enjoyed it. I have became pretty knowledgeable in those areas. I have never been though to probably the most famous Mexican place of all for mongering, Tijuana. This is because I live in Phoenix, Arizona and Tijuana is a bit further of drive than those other cities I mentioned (from what I understand another 3 hours beyond Mexicali). I have also of course heard a lot about the drug cartel violence situation there and it has made me reluctant to go there in the past and of course we have all heard the stories of how Tijuana has the most crooked, corrupt police force anywhere on the border. I still have heard a lot of good things though about Tijuana especially Adelita's and Hong Kong so I am seriously thinking about trying it once. On the last week of July I am going to have some time off of work so I am thinking about making a trip to Tijuana.

My first question to all of you Tijuana pros is if anyone is familiar with the San Diego public transportation system? I am debating if I should drive or if I should fly if I find some good deal on airfare from Phoenix to San Diego. Does San Diego have good, reliable public transportation to get one from the San Diego airport to the Tijuana border? Do they have regulary scheduled bus / subway / light rail routes that can get you there and back? I have never even been to San Diego let alone Tijuana so this is completely new to me.

Second question is about hotel / motels. Does anyone know of some cheap but respectable hotels near Adelita's that you can rent for the night? I know that Adelita's has a hotel attached to it but I am looking for a place that rents for the night, not by the hour. I am looking to spend the night near Adelita's (unless you people who know the place well would say that that is not advisable). Is it safe for a gringo that speaks no Spanish to spend the night in that area of Tijuana? I am not looking for a 5 star motel. I would be quite happy with something the equivalent of a motel 6 in the USA I am used to being able to go to a respectable motel in Mexicali for 250 pesos (approx 20 dollars) a night. Will I find that in Tijuana or is that a pipe dream? In Tijuana is it better for a person to spend the night north of the border?

The next question is about safety. I know of course we have all heard the stories on the news about drug cartel violence and crooked police in Tijuana. I have also read though that this occurs only in certain areas of Tijuana and that some areas are just as safe if not safer than any major city in the USA Is the area of Adelita's and Hong Kong a safe area? As long as I am not blatantly stupid like walking around in a drunken stupor, causing fights or taking pictures of ladies am I safe from crooked cops in that area? I realize that being safe if relative. Incidents occur here in Phoenix and other major USA cities too but is it relatively safe? Also, I would like to walk through the zona norte if it is advisable. I do not want to pick up any of those ladies as I do not like to do street girls be it in Nogales, Los Algodones, Mexicali or for that matter here in Phoenix. They are just not my thing. Too unpredictable. Sometimes you get a gem and sometimes you get mugged. I do however know that the zona norte is probably the most famous and largest area in the world for street workers and I would personally just like to see it. I would like maybe just to walk through it never conversing with any of the ladies. Is it safe just to walk through the zona norte?

Anyone's experience and advice would be greatly appreciated. If you have other advice on issues that I did not mention that you think a Tijuana first timer should know I woud appreciate hearing that too. If you ever need to go to Nogales (hopefully not, that place is a shit hole. LOL) , Los Algodones or Mexicali contact me and I can tell you whatever you would like to know. Also, if you need advice on the local Phoenix, Arizona scene let me know and I can help you with that. Thanks for your help in advance!

Jon

[SeanBig]

Thanks Guitar,

She actually seems like a decent human being but from her stories with clients she is all business.

Ie. If you ain't going upstairs stop wasting my time.

It's weird. Now when I talk to her on the phone. I think of everything the posters are saying.

It's just when she reminisces of when we first met in the club it sounds oddly romantic and really really fcuked up.

[Hargow20]

SD does have public transportation. Getting around is not to much of a hassle if you are staying near the trolley lines in down town or Mission Valley. Personally I think driving is the best option if time is not a big factor. I would not drive a car into Tijuana. Tijuana is fairly safe during the day time. Personally I avoid Tijuana at night there this to many shadows for the bandit's to hide. There is cops all around and they will not bother you so long as you obey the laws and mind your manners. I always look around to see who is behind me

[Joe Arturo]

Ahhh Roxette. I gave her a CD of tunes with the Police song, Roxanne, so then she used to play that alot for one of her stage songs. Anyway, the last time I saw her was in Ensenada where she worked at Paris de Noche. Attached is a photo of her and friends from June 2006. And yes, I do remember Excalibar, the place close to Guau Guau and next to Mercado de Pasteles. This girl, Ambar, liked to bring me there for after hour recreation. I don't party much in Mexicali anymore because that's where my novia lives.

But let me know next time you plan to head down to Chicago Club. I'd be happy to buy you a drink.I will be at Chicago Club at about 10:00 or 10:30 tonight. I will be the old fart. My name is Mike

[TomJackin]

I will be at Chicago Club at about 10:00 or 10:30 tonight. I will be the old fart. My name is MikeNow wait a god damn minute! I thought I was the only old fart in the Zona!

[Ath Trainer]

Take a bus and the trolley to, and from SAN airport to the border. There IS a Motel 6 at the border, if you want to stay stateside. There are hotels in Tijuana that are safe, decent, and cheap. Other mongers can help you with that. As far as safety, you hit it right on the nose. Be smart, and you will have no problem. Don't get drunk, don't talk to strangers, and no drugs. Stay in the zona, until you get comfortable and learn a little Spanish.

[Once Sailor]

The hotel Cascades, the one that is used by the girls in Hong Club club, rents by the day too. You can check out there web site. (Do Google search for Hotel Cascades Tijuana.) If you are staying there get a high floor, since the music is pretty loud. A lot of others prefer the Hotel Ticuan, it's close to the zone and pretty nice. (Same google search for it.)

[Joe Arturo]

In the past I have mongered in Nogales, Los Algodones and Mexicali and enjoyed it. I have became pretty knowledgeable in those areas. I have never been though to probably the most famous Mexican place of all for mongering, Tijuana. This is because I live in Phoenix, Arizona and Tijuana is a bit further of drive than those other cities I mentioned (from what I understand another 3 hours beyond Mexicali). I have also of course heard a lot about the drug cartel violence situation there and it has made me reluctant to go there in the past and of course we have all heard the stories of how Tijuana has the most crooked, corrupt police force anywhere on the border. I still have heard a lot of good things though about Tijuana especially Adelita's and Hong Kong so I am seriously thinking about trying it once. On the last week of July I am going to have some time off of work so I am thinking about making a trip to Tijuana.

My first question to all of you Tijuana pros is if anyone is familiar with the San Diego public transportation system? I am debating if I should drive or if I should fly if I find some good deal on airfare from Phoenix to San Diego. Does San Diego have good, reliable public transportation to get one from the San Diego airport to the Tijuana border? Do they have regulary scheduled bus / subway / light rail routes that can get you there and back? I have never even been to San Diego let alone Tijuana so this is completely new to me.

Second question is about hotel / motels. Does anyone know of some cheap but respectable hotels near Adelita's that you can rent for the night? I know that Adelita's has a hotel attached to it but I am looking for a place that rents for the night, not by the hour. I am looking to spend the night near Adelita's (unless you people who know the place well would say that that is not advisable). Is it safe for a gringo that speaks no Spanish to spend the night in that area of Tijuana? I am not looking for a 5 star motel. I would be quite happy with something the equivalent of a motel 6 in the USA I am used to being able to go to a respectable motel in Mexicali for 250 pesos (approx 20 dollars) a night. Will I find that in Tijuana or is that a pipe dream? In Tijuana is it better for a person to spend the night north of the border?

The next question is about safety. I know of course we have all heard the stories on the news about drug cartel violence and crooked police in Tijuana. I have also read though that this occurs only in certain areas of Tijuana and that some areas are just as safe if not safer than any major city in the USA Is the area of Adelita's and Hong Kong a safe area? As long as I am not blatantly stupid like walking around in a drunken stupor, causing fights or taking pictures of ladies am I safe from crooked cops in that area? I realize that being safe if relative. Incidents occur here in Phoenix and other major USA cities too but is it relatively safe? Also, I would like to walk through the zona norte if it is advisable. I do not want to pick up any of those ladies as I do not like to do street girls be it in Nogales, Los Algodones, Mexicali or for that matter here in Phoenix. They are just not my thing. Too unpredictable. Sometimes you get a gem and sometimes you get mugged. I do however know that the zona norte is probably the most famous and largest area in the world for street workers and I would personally just like to see it. I would like maybe just to walk through it never conversing with any of the ladies. Is it safe just to walk through the zona norte?

Anyone's experience and advice would be greatly appreciated. If you have other advice on issues that I did not mention that you think a Tijuana first timer should know I woud appreciate hearing that too. If you ever need to go to Nogales (hopefully not, that place is a shit hole. LOL) , Los Algodones or Mexicali contact me and I can tell you whatever you would like to know. Also, if you need advice on the local Phoenix, Arizona scene let me know and I can help you with that. Thanks for your help in advance!

JonHi Jon. If you like Mexicali like I do. You are going to love Tijuana. It is a whole different game here. My advice to you is to read the postings on this forum. Answers to all your questions are contained here. PM me with the dates and times you will be here (I am in Tijuana right now) and maybe we can finally hook up. I can probably be your tour guide as I wanted to in Mexicali. It seems that we never could hook up in Mexicali. Good luck and safe hunting!

[Joe Arturo]

Now wait a god damn minute! I thought I was the only old fart in the Zona!I should have said to look for the oldest fart.

[Joe Arturo]

Ahhh Roxette. I gave her a CD of tunes with the Police song, Roxanne, so then she used to play that alot for one of her stage songs. Anyway, the last time I saw her was in Ensenada where she worked at Paris de Noche. Attached is a photo of her and friends from June 2006. And yes, I do remember Excalibar, the place close to Guau Guau and next to Mercado de Pasteles. This girl, Ambar, liked to bring me there for after hour recreation. I don't party much in Mexicali anymore because that's where my novia lives.

But let me know next time you plan to head down to Chicago Club. I'd be happy to buy you a drink.The gal on the right in the picture is Laura. She works at Chicago Club from 2:00 PM to 10:00 PM just about every day. She has aged a lot since the picture. I asked her today about Roxette and she said that Roxette got married and moved back to her home town.

[Joe Arturo]

Who changed the name of this board (now Hotels) and of the Hong Kong board (now Discounts)?

[Keg]

Who changed the name of this board (now Hotels) and of the Hong Kong board (now Discounts)?Weird looking change.

[AmanteDeLatina]

There must have been a system glitch. I e-mailed Jackson. What was the name of this board before? I can not remember.


Weird looking change.

[Joe Arturo]

There must have been a system glitch. I e-mailed Jackson. What was the name of this board before? I can not remember.Tijuana Reports

[BionicMan]

there must have been a system glitch. i e-mailed jackson. what was the name of this board before? i can not remember.same happeened a couple of weeks ago on many other boards, taking the name of the last post title. and screwing up the individual member post count.

[KC Questor]

I will be arriving at the border on a Friday for an overnight stay in Tijuana. I was planning to park my car on the US side and take a taxi to a hotel (Cascadas or Ticuan, probably) and then taxi back the next morning. However I was thinking about visiting Ensenada on Saturday afternoon. I know there is reliable bus service, but I would love to be able to stop along the way to look at the view or have a snack. Which of these options would you suggest?

1) Drive into Mexico, find a secure place to park in Tijuana Friday night, then continue on to Ensenada in the morning, returning to Tijuana in the evening, driving back across the border Saturday night. (easiest, but least secure?)

2) Park in the US, taxi to zona on Friday, taxi back to border on Saturday morning to get car, then drive to Ensenada, driving back across the border Saturday night. (pain to have to cross the border multiple times)

3) Forget about driving in Mexico. Taxi to zona, taxi to bus terminal, take the bus to Ensenada in the morning and back in the evening, then walk across the border Saturday night. (I'd feel stranded without my car).

If it matters, my car is pretty old, but would be full of luggage and some electronics that I need for a trade show in San Diego the next week. It won't be conspicuous, but it would suck to lose it.

[HorseTrader]

I will be arriving at the border on a Friday for an overnight stay in Tijuana. I was planning to park my car on the US side and take a taxi to a hotel (Cascadas or Ticuan, probably) and then taxi back the next morning. However I was thinking about visiting Ensenada on Saturday afternoon.Every time I walk across the border I'm glad that my car is on the US side. Even on a good day, those car lines look like they would take hours. Not to mention that Tijuana drivers can be very aggressive, I'd worry about having an accident. I'd have to be staying in Mexico for several days before I'd consider driving.

[Sock111]

I will be arriving at the border on a Friday for an overnight stay in Tijuana. I was planning to park my car on the US side and take a taxi to a hotel (Cascadas or Ticuan, probably) and then taxi back the next morning. However I was thinking about visiting Ensenada on Saturday afternoon. I know there is reliable bus service, but I would love to be able to stop along the way to look at the view or have a snack. Which of these options would you suggest?I will give you some advice.

1. You must buy mexican insurance. YOU MUST BUY MEXICAN INSURANCE. It doesn't matter if your US insurance covers you in mexico, the cops won't accept it. If they decide to pull you oer and you don't have insurance, it is just one more "ticket" they will make you pay for. It is very easy to buy mexican insurance, there is even a drive through insurance place near the border.

2. Crossing back is a pain. It is always a pain. If you really want to drive, try to plan your return across with your car between 1-3 am. That way your wait will only be 30 mins max. Any other time, expect the car line to be 1.5 to 3 hours.

3. Make sure you use the toll roads. It is very cheap. The roads are much nicer and I have never seen a cop on the toll road. If you are driving to Rosarito you will only pay the toll once. Driving to ensenada, I think it was 3-4 tolls. Still very cheap. The toll was like 26 pesos or something like that. They take US dollars.

I have gone to Ensenada during the day. Came back to Tijuana at like 6pm and spent the rest of my time in HK til it was time to drive back. HK has a parking lot and so does chicago club. The prices are fair, and they usually have attendants watching the lot so you won't have to worry about someone breaking in to it. I really recommend those lots, you don't want to park your vehicle far away.

As for the shit in your car, if you have a hotel room on the US side, leave it there. Try not to carry anything over that customs might take a second glance at. I know its a bit paranoid but it is best to avoid attention and cross smoothly. If they decide to pull you in to a secondary search, that 30 min wait just went up to 2 hours.

Be honest when you cross back. You are a single adult male coming back in an old car. Tell them the truth, you went to Ensenada to site see and spent the evening at HK. They will waive you right by.

[Joe Arturo]

I will be arriving at the border on a Friday for an overnight stay in Tijuana. I was planning to park my car on the US side and take a taxi to a hotel (Cascadas or Ticuan, probably) and then taxi back the next morning. However I was thinking about visiting Ensenada on Saturday afternoon. I know there is reliable bus service, but I would love to be able to stop along the way to look at the view or have a snack. Which of these options would you suggest?

1) Drive into Mexico, find a secure place to park in Tijuana Friday night, then continue on to Ensenada in the morning, returning to Tijuana in the evening, driving back across the border Saturday night. (easiest, but least secure?)

2) Park in the US, taxi to zona on Friday, taxi back to border on Saturday morning to get car, then drive to Ensenada, driving back across the border Saturday night. (pain to have to cross the border multiple times)

3) Forget about driving in Mexico. Taxi to zona, taxi to bus terminal, take the bus to Ensenada in the morning and back in the evening, then walk across the border Saturday night. (I'd feel stranded without my car).

If it matters, my car is pretty old, but would be full of luggage and some electronics that I need for a trade show in San Diego the next week. It won't be conspicuous, but it would suck to lose it.I ALWAYS drive into Mexico. I have an annual Mexican insurance policy that I get from Lewis & Lewis in Beverly Hills. You can find them on line. My policy runs me about $300 per year. I usually stay at Hotel Hacienda del Santiago which has secure guarded parking and I have never had any problem in this parking lot. If I am not spending the night, I park in the parking area of Hotel Leyva which is next to Chicago Club. Once again it is secure and guarded and I have never had a problem there.

Let me know if you are going to drive and I will give you directions to get to and from the zona in your car.

[KC Questor]

OK, so Friday afternoon I drive into Mexico.

1) I make sure I have two days of Mexican auto insurance. Either purchased at a kiosk at the border or online in advance ($20 at http://www.mexinsure.com).
2) Drive to Hong Kong and check in at Hotel Cascadas and park in their secured lot.
3) Have fun Friday night.
4) Saturday morning get up and drive to Ensenada, paying $10 in tolls each way.
5) Enjoy Ensenada, returning to Tijuana Saturday night (maybe stop back in zona for some fun, especially if it is still early)
6) Wait in line at border and then drive to SD hotel Saturday night.

Sounds totally doable! Thanks.

I'll probably post in a couple of weeks to see if anyone wants to get together for a drink or chat on 6/22. I haven't been to the zona in 7-8 years, so it will be awesome to see how it has changed.

[Magic Rancher]

Thanks for the Roxette update. She was unique and had amazing skills on stage with a beer bottle. I never knew Laura or the other friend. They were simply company for a trip down to La Bufadora. But it's ironic she ends up in Chicago Club.

This Wednesday I head out to Mexicali. Depending on the heat and the company, I will be back to SD Fri or Saturday. I'll come down to CC in the late afternoon one of those days.


I will be at Chicago Club at about 10:00 or 10:30 tonight. I will be the (censored!).

[Joe Arturo]

Thanks for the Roxette update. She was unique and had amazing skills on stage with a beer bottle. I never knew Laura or the other friend. They were simply company for a trip down to La Bufadora. But it's ironic she ends up in Chicago Club.

This Wednesday I head out to Mexicali. Depending on the heat and the company, I will be back to SD Fri or Saturday. I'll come down to CC in the late afternoon one of those days.I will arrive in Tijuana Friday evening about 5 PM and be in Chicago Club shortly thereafter. I will be in Tijuana until Sunday morning when I am heading for some adventure in Mexicali and then some parts of Sonora. Hope to see you Friday or Saturday!

[SeanBig]

For what its worth, here are my 2 pesos. Glad that you came to your conclusion in 7) , relationship / love / date / etc is all relative, what it means to us may not be the same meaning as it is to them. The common denominator is $$$ (and even that, the value is still somewhat relative, but less ambiguous, IMHO)

1) I had a girl who works on / off in the zona, only had me pay her once, but ever since then, always freebie, never asked me for money, and never calls / messages me unnecessarily. This is a great girl, but probably a horrible prostitute if she is doing the same for other guys (which I doubt / shrugs)

2) I have another girl who works very regularly in the zona, who was madly obsessed about me (ok fine, so was I to her) , but she is so full of crazies that she gets jealous when I even so much as hang out with other girls in the club, I have never directly paid her for sex, but have bought things for her (nothing expensive, and if you ask me, I am actually still ahead.). This is a decent prostitute, but a horrible potential gf.

3) then there is this ultra flaky girl, whom sex with is always so-so, but everything else, is a complete GFE (ok maybe not that much) , but the shit that she says, really makes me think that she cares about me (which, big head is telling me that it is all just words, and these girls should know by now what is it that mongers love to hear). This is a decent prostitute, and a potentially interesting gf.

4) and then a SW, whom I never have to haggle with, provides increasingly better service each time I am with her, but even when I don't take her upstairs, she always greets me with a big smile and ask me in a friendly manner how my day has been and whats up. This is a fucking great prostitute, and will never be a gf.

5) and on and on.

Anyway, my point is, given long enough time, and close enough distance, you will probably experience many more different personalities to come, and for your sake, I really hope you go through this painful (but necessary experience) in the quickest and least damaging way (both financially and emotionally) because it seems like you already reached your own conclusion, but whether you truly believe what you say, is another thing.

Incidentally, zwane does stand out in the crowd (at least to me) , never paid for her services but bought her a drink before, I would say, given how she talks to me about my regulars, I would say she is not a 'bad' person per se. Ie, I don't think she is maliciously scheming anything, but you will most likely find that whatever way she intends to guide this relationship, may not be something you will be able to cope with.

Stay healthy, stay sane.So based on your numbers would this girl I am obsessed with be somewhere.

Between 2 and 3?

We are still talking emailing daily but suspect it will wither away after a month

[SuperSteve]

now wait a god damn minute! i thought i was the only old fart in the zona!you should have also said to look for speedy pouring tequila down your throat, or if that wasn't happening to look for a lady attached to your face.

keep up the good work amigo.

[Party God]

I ALWAYS drive into Mexico. I have an annual Mexican insurance policy that I get from Lewis & Lewis in Beverly Hills. You can find them on line. My policy runs me about $300 per year. I usually stay at Hotel Hacienda del Santiago which has secure guarded parking and I have never had any problem in this parking lot. If I am not spending the night, I park in the parking area of Hotel Leyva which is next to Chicago Club. Once again it is secure and guarded and I have never had a problem there.

Let me know if you are going to drive and I will give you directions to get to and from the zona in your car.Nice recommendation (even if unintended). I've always driving in to Mexico (since I have a Sentri Pass) but I hate the extra time to stop for insurance. I've been considering an annual policy. Looks like Lewis & Lewis is reasonable and I'd feel more at ease buying a policy with from a place stateside. Thanks.

[ArcherAim]

Looking for advice.

I know don't bring drugs to Mexico, I know you're opening a whole can of hurt if you smuggle substance. BUT you arrive in Tijuana and there's a farmacia and the ED drugs are available (or did they change that? Do you now need a prescription? Heard that was the case with antibiotics finally.) So you go in and buy one or a dozen. I read someone saying buy one pill and a soda, take the pill with the soda, make sure the wrapper is thrown away in the farmacia trash and only then step out into the street since police can start demanding your prescription if you have fresh pills in your pocket. But is that crazy paranoid? Likewise, buy a ten pack of ED and stuff 'them in your jockeys and bring them back to the us. It's for personal use, do they care? Do you declare them when you show up at the border so if they're pissed they just take them, or do you hide them and see if they're going to strip search you? ED drugs aren't weed or hard drugs, and you might have brought them with you from US when you came over in the first place. Or is this just plain too dangerous to even think about?

[Joe Arturo]

Looking for advice.

I know don't bring drugs to Mexico, I know you're opening a whole can of hurt if you smuggle substance. BUT you arrive in Tijuana and there's a farmacia and the ED drugs are available (or did they change that? Do you now need a prescription? Heard that was the case with antibiotics finally.) So you go in and buy one or a dozen. I read someone saying buy one pill and a soda, take the pill with the soda, make sure the wrapper is thrown away in the farmacia trash and only then step out into the street since police can start demanding your prescription if you have fresh pills in your pocket. But is that crazy paranoid? Likewise, buy a ten pack of ED and stuff 'them in your jockeys and bring them back to the us. It's for personal use, do they care? Do you declare them when you show up at the border so if they're pissed they just take them, or do you hide them and see if they're going to strip search you? ED drugs aren't weed or hard drugs, and you might have brought them with you from US when you came over in the first place. Or is this just plain too dangerous to even think about?These medicines (not drugs) are legal in Mexico and you don't need a prescription to purchase them. I have never ever had a problem carrying them around with me in Mexico. I do have a prescription in my possession to bring them back into the USA. But I rarely do that. I think that you are being paranoid.

[ArcherAim]

These medicines (not drugs) are legal in Mexico and you don't need a prescription to purchase them. I have never ever had a problem carrying them around with me in Mexico. I do have a prescription in my possession to bring them back into the USA. But I rarely do that. I think that you are being paranoid.Paranoid. Hopefully! I'm only commenting on a few things I've read on the board. If I don't have a prescription to carry them back to the US, what happens if they find the other five of my six pack when I try to cross the border to come home? Wouldn't mind having them here in Phoenix for use over the next month but don't want to be caught "smuggling". If it's just a couple pills, do the border agents just figure it's for personal use, perhaps I had them with me when I came south of the border anyway, and no big deal? I'm not bringing back twenty boxes to distribute them on the streets. But I don't have a prescription. Otherwise I probably wouldn't need to buy them at a farmacia when I get there.

[TomJackin]

Started out in HK, go figure. Stay there for a couple of hours checking out some of the new girls and I was impressed with the lookers. Wasn't in the mood for HK prices, so I opted for the alley in search for alley buddies. I wasn't more than 30 feet (maybe 31) from HK, when I got attacked from the rear; it was my good pal Chunky. I had no real plans, so off to the store to stock up on adult beverages, and then off to the Five-Star Monitos!

I guess the exceptional hotel ran out of towels, because we were given an outstanding bar of soap and a sheet to use as a towel. I gave Chunky some serious shit about her footwear and asked her,"How in the fuck do you expect to get clients dressed like that?" She shut me up in a hurry with her response,"I have you here with me now, right bit@h?" I was more than humbled! But I did tell her,"Baby, after we get married, I will take you to Payless and buy you some quality footwear!" She seemed unmoved by the notion.

Afterwards I met my Tijuana friends at Chiki Jai and I was impressed with the food and service. When they served the bread, it came with a bowl green sauce, both were good, and the green sauce had a nice spicy kick to it. Although, I thought that the paella at Lorca Espanol was better, the food was still quite good and reasonable in price at Chiki Jai.

Once back in the Zona, I tried to track down Chunky so I could pop the big proposal question to her, but she was nowhere to be found. Unlike the other SGs, Chunky roams the Zona and is never in the same spot; it works for her. Stopped by CC and hung out a bit with Joe Arturo. For whatever reason, he was still wearing all of his clothes, but then again, it was still early. Made runs through some of the other clubs, but ended up back in HK so I could play with the twins! Love the damn twins!

[Phordphan]

I caught up on my DVR viewing a couple of days ago. Did anybody catch the No Reservations episode where he went to Tijuana (and other parts of Baja)?

A few interesting shots of the streets, a few seconds of La Malquerida's neon, a few SGs.

But my question is, has anybody been to Mision 19? He loved it. I've looked it up on Google, and it's not far. Would a taxi driver know it?

Also, any experience with Dandy del Sur or Mezcalera? I know where they are on 6th, but never been inside. Maybe this Saturday I'll take my date and check 'them out.

Advice, comments, suggestions?

[Artisttyp]

[QUOTE=ArcherAim; 1290574 If it's just a couple pills, do the border agents just figure it's for personal use, perhaps I had them with me when I came south of the border anyway, and no big deal?[/QUOTE]

Archer,

Never bring prescription meds back to the USA no matter how many you have. I sometimes bring back an anti fungal cream that is prescription only in the USA but I declare it. If it is something like that just declare it and have no more than a 1 month's supply on you. According to the law it is allowed. Other meds need a mandatory doctor's prescription.

Having viagra on you without a script in Mexico is a grey area. While it may not be illegal a cop might try to tell you otherwise. If you don't handle the situation the right way it could be a hassle and / or costly. Depends on who finds it. Some people will argue that I am wrong. Better safe than sorry in my book.

I carry a letter from my doctor and the pharmacy receipts but I am still cautious. If I go to the zona I try to take any meds before I go down if I can. Even with my letter etc. I know I would have to play it off well enough if the cops did search me. Add two beers and red eyes to the mix and it may get even harder to explain.

I would suggest that you buy them on a per pill basis while down there and swallow them before you hit the zona or the street for that matter.

Paranoid like you.

Welcome to ISG.

Artisttyp

[Dave_Far]

I caught up on my DVR viewing a couple of days ago. Did anybody catch the No Reservations episode where he went to Tijuana (and other parts of Baja)?

A few interesting shots of the streets, a few seconds of La Malquerida's neon, a few SGs.

But my question is, has anybody been to Mision 19? He loved it. I've looked it up on Google, and it's not far. Would a taxi driver know it?

Also, any experience with Dandy del Sur or Mezcalera? I know where they are on 6th, but never been inside. Maybe this Saturday I'll take my date and check 'them out.

Advice, comments, suggestions?For Mision 19, this place has been on several other travels shows before Bourdain. I once asked a taxi driver if he knew where it was and he didn't but at that time I didn't even know what general area the restuarant was at. You're better off checking a foodie site such as Chowhound for more info about the place than here. But to save you time, reviews are generally positive and the meal is well worth the price.