General Reports

[Baxter Slade]

I couldn't help but laugh, when I was watching the morning news and they were showing 20 heavily armed Policia searching Hotel Tapatio for fugitive Chris Dorner. Hmmm maybe it would be a good hideout, who in the world would stay there.

It did bring back memories of the night I spent there. I guess the worse part is taking the walk to get to the place at night, not safe. But then the Hotel experience itself was not paradise either. Bugs in the room toilet didn't work and no hot water. I was going to take a shower and realized there were no towels in the room. I went to inquire about towles and was informed they were out of them. Then about 15 minutes later a clerk knocked on my door and brought up a piece of a towel. Only in Tijuana.

[GolfSexRroll]

I couldn't help but laugh, when I was watching the morning news and they were showing 20 heavily armed Policia searching Hotel Tapatio for fugitive Chris Dorner. Hmmm maybe it would be a good hideout, who in the world would stay there.

It did bring back memories of the night I spent there. I guess the worse part is taking the walk to get to the place at night, not safe. But then the Hotel experience itself was not paradise either. Bugs in the room toilet didn't work and no hot water. I was going to take a shower and realized there were no towels in the room. I went to inquire about towles and was informed they were out of them. Then about 15 minutes later a clerk knocked on my door and brought up a piece of a towel. Only in Tijuana.I'm watching the live feed (1:45 pm today=Tuesday) of the Dorner cop killer in Big Bear Ca. Shootout in Big Bear and now a car chase? So he is not in Tijuana! I have seen the huge amount of LE going into Tijuana at the border walkway (with their asault rifles. I hope things get back to normal now.) You heard it here first!

[Keg]

I'm watching the live feed (1:45 pm today=Tuesday) of the Dorner cop killer in Big Bear Ca. Shootout in Big Bear and now a car chase? So he is not in Tijuana! I have seen the huge amount of LE going into Tijuana at the border walkway (with their asault rifles. I hope things get back to normal now.) You heard it here first!Thanks for the update GSR. I have been cursing this bastard for causing such a ruckus at the border, now my weekend crossing plans are clear.

Keg

[SBeach25]

Was down at the Otey Mesa border and getting approved for my Sentri pass. Since I was down there already I thought I swing by and check out the zone. Went to HK and hung around for an hour, the girls are looking good but I'm picky so I thought I swing to AB and there was one I liked (Fernanda) but she was busy. I then went to the alley and there were about a dozen girls. Still, nothing that caught my eye. Tuesday was sort of a let down. I'm sure I couldve had a cheap night but I was feeling that I wanted what my money was worth. I can say that the girls was definately trying to get my business seeing how most of the patrons were there just to watch and drink. Oh, I saw a guy in a wheel chair jerking off in AB. Hilarious, as he was facing the corner and was at it pretty hard. At least I got something to laugh at for the night.

[AmanteDeLatina]

I will probably spend most of my time at HK.

[GolfSexRroll]

I will probably spend most of my time at HK.I'll be in Tijuana at HK on Sunday afternoon / eve. I, ll have black shirt / black jeans on. Flaca, grey hair. 50s (I know that matches a lot of guys at HK) Say Hi. Dave

[TjRookie]

I've tried to join that forum twice now with no avail. The first time I joined, and of course you have to validate your email address through an email they send you. Then after that it tells you that the site moderator or administrator has to approve your account, and until then your really not able to do much on the forum. Well I tried to sign in a few days later to see if the account was approved or whatever and it wouldn't let me sign in and said that my username wasn't recognized. Well I double checked and the username was correct? So after this I tried to join the forum again with a different email address and everything. Same process, Validated my email address and everything, signed in, but you can't do much until your approved. So couple days later I go to sign in. And same shit again! Site says username doesn't exist. What the fuck is up with that forum? Is it only for mongering royalty or some shit like that? I wanted to join the forum and possibly gain more knowledge before my first trip April 10-13, which is now booked. Thanks for any help guys!

[TjRookie]

I meant the tijuana amxg0s forum of course, but the name was blocked for some reason.

[HorseTrader]

I'll be in the zona Sunday thru Tuesday. Probably stay 1 night at Ticuan and one in San Diego. Let me know if you are interested in getting a beer together. I'm an early bird, maybe 2pm until 10 pm mongering.

[AmanteDeLatina]

Just curious, when I was in Tijuana last Saturday, there was some tout that was advertising every time I passed him about a massage right accross the street from Adelitas that involved two nude women of your choice for only $40. I passed it because I thought it sounded too good to be true. I am not naive, I am sure that if you did that you would be expected to tip the girls for anything above viewing them. I was just curious, has anyone here tried this? How was it if you had?

[TomJackin]

Just curious, when I was in Tijuana last Saturday, there was some tout that was advertising every time I passed him about a massage right accross the street from Adelitas that involved two nude women of your choice for only $40. I passed it because I thought it sounded too good to be true. I am not naive, I am sure that if you did that you would be expected to tip the girls for anything above viewing them. I was just curious, has anyone here tried this? How was it if you had?If it sounds too good to be true, then it usually is the case.

Once you go in there, prices seem to change. The massage has no extras and the girls are always asking for tips. Not much of a line-up as well.

[TomJackin]

Well it was a long holiday weekend and usually I jump on a plane and go somewhere, but the last trip to El Salvador had me thinking differently; let's call it being a bit gun shy. This would be a close to home weekend trip, so I booked the Ticuan for a couple of nights.

HK was my starting point and dammit the Asian tour group was taking up all the good booths. I finally got a couple of photos of them, but not for long. One of the managers came over and had me delete the photos and then I was told not to take anymore photos; WTF? No more booth follies? The hell with that! It wasn't long after that I spotted J Star (TJA) at the front stage. HK did not tell him that he could not use his camera; I think I found a loop hole here! He stopped by and took a few shots for me; thanks dude.

Having a hotel already, I did not want to play and pay at a different hotel, so I started texting for dollars trying to get a date to meet me at the Ticuan at six. After a while, I set up a date with one of the street girls. She really liked the Ticuan; quite different from the five star hotel she works out of in the alley for sure. After play time was over, I headed back to HK.

Right after I entered through the front entrance of HK, I was just past the front stage when the music was lowered and I heard this announcement in English,"The personal use of cameras is never allowed in Hong Kong." I stopped dead in my tracks and thought,"Hey, wait a goddamn minute! Was that fucking announcement aimed at yours truly?" The timing was perfect and I never heard that announcement before. No worries, after the hotel romp in the room, I wanted to relax anyhow.

Wasn't long before the Twins showed up and I got her a small bucket and we drank while I practiced my shitty Spanish. Fuck it, I wanted a picture of the Twins and dammit, I took a photo. All the booths were full, so we were sharing a booth with another couple and the hottie was topless. After I took the picture of my Twins, the hottie acted jealous and motioned to me to take of shot of her Twins as well. Yep, twist my fucking arm to take a picture of your naked body; so I did! She had an excellent rack as well. I told the Twins that I was going to have lunch at El Rodeo and her eyes lit up like the Rockefeller Center Christmas tree. Yeah, she loves the place.

The next day, the Twins, Sal and wife, and I met up at the hotel and we headed to El Rodeo in La Mesa; I really like the food there. My favorite thing there is the possum soup; doesn't sound wonderful, but it is really good. Back in June, they had a special going on with the tequila they served. Buy one shot, and get a bottle for free. Last June, I bought 5 shots for us, and we had 5 free bottles. I think they came to their senses because of drinkers like me. So this time, only 2 bottles were free with the cost of 2 shots, which were 60 pesos each. The Twins are proudly displaying the bottles. After lunch, the Twins came over to the hotel for rack operations.

At this point, I'm about worn out. The key word in the last sentence was "about." Had to recharge, so I went back to HK. Had the pleasure of meeting Keg (ISG) , and we gawked at all the lovely creatures in the club; with some pleasant conversation in the middle of it all. From behind, I had two hands wrapped around my eyes, then I felt another set of hands around my chest and I really had no idea whom the hands belonged to, but it turned out to be 2 of the 3 cousins that I partied with last week. They took the positions on either side of me and let their hands do the talking. Keg's girl arrived, and she was a beauty to say the least. When he left with her, the third cousin came over and she wanted to play too! For some reason, I really like the cousins.

It was a nice, enjoyable, and safe weekend.

[Guitarrefreak]

Just curious, when I was in Tijuana last Saturday, there was some tout that was advertising every time I passed him about a massage right accross the street from Adelitas that involved two nude women of your choice for only $40. I passed it because I thought it sounded too good to be true. I am not naive, I am sure that if you did that you would be expected to tip the girls for anything above viewing them. I was just curious, has anyone here tried this? How was it if you had?I used to go there to visit one hot spinner who gave me GFE.

If you go there enough, the 1 hr room goes from 35 to 30.

Once inside, it depends on how you negotiate with the girl and prices range from 60 to whatever dumb number one is willing to pay.

I personally paid my chica 80, coming down from 120, and bear in mind that is 1 full hr of GFE with a girl I personally found hot.

In the end, the net is 110, which is not significantly better than hk, but again, its the overall experience

[Chator]

Just curious, when I was in Tijuana last Saturday, there was some tout that was advertising every time I passed him about a massage right accross the street from Adelitas that involved two nude women of your choice for only $40. I passed it because I thought it sounded too good to be true. I am not naive, I am sure that if you did that you would be expected to tip the girls for anything above viewing them. I was just curious, has anyone here tried this? How was it if you had?Well, of course, the forty dollars doesn't involve sex with the girls! Its only for the room and time / massage with the two girls of your choice. If you want sex you have to negotiate with the chicas, it might be kinda tough to negotiate with two chicas, if you want both. But if you can manage it, this is the easiest way to get a threesome. Otherwise, you can send one girl away and only have sex with one of the two. Which one do you send away? The one who isn't the toughest when it comes to negotiating!

[Smoky Jack]

When I was in Tijuana a few months ago there were two girls that I spent a lot of time with. They want to hook up again when I go back in March. Go out, dinner, dancing, yada yada. How much should I expect to pay? These are HK girls. They may or may not negotiate for money beforehand.

[FlapJacK]

When I was in Tijuana a few months ago there were two girls that I spent a lot of time with. They want to hook up again when I go back in March. Go out, dinner, dancing, yada yada. How much should I expect to pay? These are HK girls. They may or may not negotiate for money beforehand.I am sort of in the same boat. Met this chica at Adelitas at the end of the year that invited me to hang out away from the zona clubs. She invited me to go dancing and dinner and wherever with her and a friend. We been texting and emailing back and forth a few times a week keeping in touch.

I am a little wary of this as I am not sure of her intentions or expectations. I find it more simple to just come and go as I please and bang who I please without having to be dedicated to one chica.

I'm headed down this sat and will test the waters with her and should know more whats up. If I have it my way I would like to spend hours with her in a nice room having my way with her. I don't mind going out a bit but also don't like the idea of taking the risk of footing the bill for everything including any friend she might bring along and get nothing back in return. Maybe it will turn out to be a good thing. Or a big waste of time and money. I guess well see how this plays out this weekend.

[The Hammer1169]

I am sort of in the same boat. Met this chica at Adelitas at the end of the year that invited me to hang out away from the zona clubs. She invited me to go dancing and dinner and wherever with her and a friend. We been texting and emailing back and forth a few times a week keeping in touch.

I am a little wary of this as I am not sure of her intentions or expectations. I find it more simple to just come and go as I please and bang who I please without having to be dedicated to one chica.

I'm headed down this sat and will test the waters with her and should know more whats up. If I have it my way I would like to spend hours with her in a nice room having my way with her. I don't mind going out a bit but also don't like the idea of taking the risk of footing the bill for everything including any friend she might bring along and get nothing back in return. Maybe it will turn out to be a good thing. Or a big waste of time and money. I guess well see how this plays out this weekend.Without beating the drum over and over, suffice to say I married a Tijuana stripper five years ago. Been a good marriage, but be careful. If this lady brings up one word about needing cash, or "helping her out" drop her like a hot rock. She will be slow playing you. I spent allot of time with strippers down there I met through my eventual wife. They have nothing but time to groom horny men form the states. They already know we are having issues with women in the states, which generally means no self-confience or age, so they play on that. My old lady wanted a ticket to the states, but stayed with me for the long run. I half expected her to bolt the day she got her permanent residency but she stayed around. I do believe there are occasional diamonds in the rough; just make sure it isn't a lump of coal instead. Saw many men get plucked clean down there with those girls laughing their asses off the entire time. No heart man. How can they have? Every man in their life burns them or uses them so they play the same game.

[SBeach25]

Without beating the drum over and over, suffice to say I married a Tijuana stripper five years ago. Been a good marriage, but be careful. If this lady brings up one word about needing cash, or "helping her out" drop her like a hot rock. She will be slow playing you. I spent allot of time with strippers down there I met through my eventual wife. They have nothing but time to groom horny men form the states. They already know we are having issues with women in the states, which generally means no self-confience or age, so they play on that. My old lady wanted a ticket to the states, but stayed with me for the long run. I half expected her to bolt the day she got her permanent residency but she stayed around. I do believe there are occasional diamonds in the rough; just make sure it isn't a lump of coal instead. Saw many men get plucked clean down there with those girls laughing their asses off the entire time. No heart man. How can they have? Every man in their life burns them or uses them so they play the same game.I'm in the same boat myself. Seems like my fav is getting a visa next month and she said other guys have asked her to come and stay with them but she wondered why I haven't asked her. Then holds out the sex. Doh! Oh well, I'm ok with the no sex since there are so many options but damn, I am going to miss that as it slowly fades away.

[The Hammer1169]

I'm in the same boat myself. Seems like my fav is getting a visa next month and she said other guys have asked her to come and stay with them but she wondered why I haven't asked her. Then holds out the sex. Doh! Oh well, I'm ok with the no sex since there are so many options but damn, I am going to miss that as it slowly fades away.Odd SBeach; I read your posts and those of others and wish the hell I was single again, and you guys seem like you are fishing for a live in! Look; anyone who has read my lengthy and numerous posts on this subject knows I say it straight. If I could roll the clock back five years and NOT go to Club Amnesia in Tijuana where I met my wife in 2007 I would! Is she hot; yes! Is she an excellent little wife; damn straight! But truth is I married her to have steady access to her 5'0 and 110Lb body and shaved snatch! Guess what? These working girls are just as bad as all women if not worse. They like to fuck about once a week and anything more than that is like pulling teeth. I fell under that spell that they must like to fuck because that is basically their job, although my wife was a stripper and didn't do much escort work. Wrong! That part about their job being fucking was right, but the part about liking it was wrong!

Now, do I have my shirts pressed and pants ironed every morning for work? Yup. Do I have dinner on and lunch ready EVERY day? Yup. Do I have a warm, tight little ass 20 years younger than me to snuggle up against every night? Yup. Do I enter that ass? Nope; four times in five years. Do I bury my little buddy in that shaved snatch every night? Nope. Becoming more hassle than its worth truthfully. Does she like to kiss the little buddy? Rarely despite my pleas. So advice; beware! I actually have dashed out more than a few times and got what I want on the outside because she doesn't deliver it at home. I think she even knows what I'm doing but would rather ignore it than lower herself to perform when she doesn't have the right hormonal "balance."

This has been the source of some monsterous arguments actually. I can't help but ask her at times "how the hell could you do this stuff for money, but not for love or to bring peace to a marriage?" She just flat says "I just don't like it like you do."

I would rather roll the clock back like it was with her before marriage; me traveling to Mexico every weekend and having a free fuck fest. That shit ended about 6-weeks after we moved in together. So. Enjoy your liberty. I promise you with 95% certainty if you moved that girl in with you she will be stripping and fucking in San Diego three weeks later. My old lady hinted at that and I told her to hit the bricks. She backed down and became a great house wife except the lack of sex! Damn my luck! Before her I had a Honduran girl that fucked every way I wanted when I wanted but wasn't quite a hotty so we went our own way. Girl had a great heart and knew how to please her man. Me. I decide I deserve hotter. End out with a sexy little hard body with nice bolt ons that thinks sex is a once a week obligation. Go figure! I wish I could some how stuff the heart and willingness of the Honduran into the body of my wife! Paradise on earth!

Man; again I would always say beware of those girls across the border. They all want something and it sure as hell isn't cock. They have seen so many of them they all look the same. Big ones, small ones, fat ones, skinny ones. They want material goods; period. My wife wanted stability and was tired of the nightly grind and 4:00AM arrivals, and someone to take care of her. It all comes down to money for those girls as that is all they know. I know of one guy I met on this site who married a working girl from down there. Ended in divorce after two years. He said he once went three months without getting laid and then when she put out and he shot his wad, she asked him for a new purse while the jizz was still running down her leg. I believe this: Leopards can't change their spots, they just fade away, but they will always have spots. I still, five years removed from the sex industry, see the plotting and scheming side of my wife pop up on occasion. Wheels are always turning as to how to hustle.

I suppose I got lucky other than not getting my appetite satisfied in the bedroom. But what man does? Last time I went to Hong Kong I sat and thought "damn; I wish I could come here every weekend." That was Thanksgving holiday after my wife hadn't so much as touched my cock for 10-days straight! I took all that out on a little Asian / mexican down there that went by Alex. Poor girl got pounded every way possible! I get back and the wife is nice as can be, but still no interest in the bedroom. She once told me she could totally live without sex! Wish I had known that before the $15, 000 wedding! Oh well; Nogales is just 40 minutes away! HA! No woman will neuter me, ever.

[SBeach25]

Odd SBeach; I read your posts and those of others and wish the hell I was single again, and you guys seem like you are fishing for a live in! Look; anyone who has read my lengthy and numerous posts on this subject knows I say it straight. If I could roll the clock back five years and NOT go to Club Amnesia in Tijuana where I met my wife in 2007 I would! Is she hot; yes! Is she an excellent little wife; damn straight! But truth is I married her to have steady access to her 5'0 and 110Lb body and shaved snatch! Guess what? These working girls are just as bad as all women if not worse. They like to fuck about once a week and anything more than that is like pulling teeth. I fell under that spell that they must like to fuck because that is basically their job, although my wife was a stripper and didn't do much escort work. Wrong! That part about their job being fucking was right, but the part about liking it was wrong!

Now, do I have my shirts pressed and pants ironed every morning for work? Yup. Do I have dinner on and lunch ready EVERY day? Yup. Do I have a warm, tight little ass 20 years younger than me to snuggle up against every night? Yup. Do I enter that ass? Nope; four times in five years. Do I bury my little buddy in that shaved snatch every night? Nope. Becoming more hassle than its worth truthfully. Does she like to kiss the little buddy? Rarely despite my pleas. So advice; beware! I actually have dashed out more than a few times and got what I want on the outside because she doesn't deliver it at home. I think she even knows what I'm doing but would rather ignore it than lower herself to perform when she doesn't have the right hormonal "balance."

This has been the source of some monsterous arguments actually. I can't help but ask her at times "how the hell could you do this stuff for money, but not for love or to bring peace to a marriage?" She just flat says "I just don't like it like you do."

I would rather roll the clock back like it was with her before marriage; me traveling to Mexico every weekend and having a free fuck fest. That shit ended about 6-weeks after we moved in together. So. Enjoy your liberty. I promise you with 95% certainty if you moved that girl in with you she will be stripping and fucking in San Diego three weeks later. My old lady hinted at that and I told her to hit the bricks. She backed down and became a great house wife except the lack of sex! Damn my luck! Before her I had a Honduran girl that fucked every way I wanted when I wanted but wasn't quite a hotty so we went our own way. Girl had a great heart and knew how to please her man. Me. I decide I deserve hotter. End out with a sexy little hard body with nice bolt ons that thinks sex is a once a week obligation. Go figure! I wish I could some how stuff the heart and willingness of the Honduran into the body of my wife! Paradise on earth!

Man; again I would always say beware of those girls across the border. They all want something and it sure as hell isn't cock. They have seen so many of them they all look the same. Big ones, small ones, fat ones, skinny ones. They want material goods; period. My wife wanted stability and was tired of the nightly grind and 4:00AM arrivals, and someone to take care of her. It all comes down to money for those girls as that is all they know. I know of one guy I met on this site who married a working girl from down there. Ended in divorce after two years. He said he once went three months without getting laid and then when she put out and he shot his wad, she asked him for a new purse while the jizz was still running down her leg. I believe this: Leopards can't change their spots, they just fade away, but they will always have spots. I still, five years removed from the sex industry, see the plotting and scheming side of my wife pop up on occasion. Wheels are always turning as to how to hustle.

I suppose I got lucky other than not getting my appetite satisfied in the bedroom. But what man does? Last time I went to Hong Kong I sat and thought "damn; I wish I could come here every weekend." That was Thanksgving holiday after my wife hadn't so much as touched my cock for 10-days straight! I took all that out on a little Asian / mexican down there that went by Alex. Poor girl got pounded every way possible! I get back and the wife is nice as can be, but still no interest in the bedroom. She once told me she could totally live without sex! Wish I had known that before the $15, 000 wedding! Oh well; Nogales is just 40 minutes away! HA! No woman will neuter me, ever.Hammer, I've read your postings and they give great advice and experience from a fellow board member. My mission was to have a nice girl here and there in Tijuana. As much as I enjoy being with them, I can not ever go to the stages of feeling that deep for someone in that industry. Main reason, I've experienced it before in my past lives, never to the point of marriage but a deep relationship. Too much drama. I learned this at a younger age and I've seen the dark side to it myself (not in Tijuana but a stripper in the US). So that's why I said, it will be fun while the fun slowly fades away. In other words, I will enjoy the time with her till the day she gets her visa and I will let her go. I'm sure there is another that will take my place easily but I walk away with the knowledge that it was good (and a lot of fun) while it lasted and did not walk the darkside with her. I know her agenda and I can read them just like you. My next mission is to find a new one to replace her and play along. Like I said, I'm just fishing for fun. It would have to be a 500lb blue fin tuna for me to want to keep her. Other than that, its just fishing. Enjoy Tijuana for what it is.

[RimmDigger]

There is a popular saying in spanish, that says:

"Si quieres dejar de cojer con una mujer, casate con ella".

It reads: "If you want to stop having sex with a girl, marry her".

Unfortunately. There is a lot of truth in that saying. That's why is a popular saying.

[The Hammer1169]

There is a popular saying in spanish, that says:

"Si quieres dejar de cojer con una mujer, casate con ella".

It reads: "If you want to stop having sex with a girl, marry her".

Unfortunately. There is a lot of truth in that saying. That's why is a popular saying.Damn! That is the gospel right there! I am 48 years old and had my share if women; but this girl I married from Mexico is that saying in the flesh.

[HectorSanchez]

I will be in Tijuana from 3/5 TO 3/12. Staying at cascadas. Heard that they increased their prices recently.

Anyways will be mongering at HK and around.

Anybody out there during this time?

Thanks

[HorseTrader]

Perhaps Mr. Hammer will beat some sense into me. Last 4 days were in the zona. New favorite is a young spinner, exactly 1/3 my age. Spent 2 HK sessions on Tuesday and Wednesday. Spent 6 hours, Thursday and 5 hours Friday doing non zona things. Yesterday she said I promised to take her home when I go. She said she will have her passport / visa packed and ready to go at 8pm on Saturday. Hopefully She is just blowing smoke and won't have any bags packed.

[HorseTrader]

Perhaps Mr. Hammer will beat some sense into me. Last 4 days were in the zona. New favorite is a young spinner, exactly 1/3 my age. Spent 2 HK sessions on Tuesday and Wednesday. Spent 6 hours, Thursday and 5 hours Friday doing non zona things. Yesterday she said I promised to take her home when I go. She said she will have her passport / visa packed and ready to go at 8pm on Saturday. Hopefully Shefg is just blowing smoke and won't have any bags packed.

[JimmyKienTran]

What the different? Police search? More hassle?

[Keg]

What the different? Police search? More hassle?

JimmyKT,

It's a longer walk. Once I park I just want to get to the zona ASAP. The new entrance in comparison is just a hassle because of the additional time and distance.

No searches unless you're bringing in luggage / bags, the entry rules remain the same.

Keg

[Guitarrefreak]

Perhaps Mr. Hammer will beat some sense into me. Last 4 days were in the zona. New favorite is a young spinner, exactly 1/3 my age. Spent 2 HK sessions on Tuesday and Wednesday. Spent 6 hours, Thursday and 5 hours Friday doing non zona things. Yesterday she said I promised to take her home when I go. She said she will have her passport / visa packed and ready to go at 8pm on Saturday. Hopefully Shefg is just blowing smoke and won't have any bags packed.I chuckled when I read this, not because I am being sarcastic, but simply because there are times when chicas have led me to believe that they are considering to do it for real, and some actually have almost being more than 3/4 of the way!

[HorseTrader]

I chuckled when I read this, not because I am being sarcastic, but simply because there are times when chicas have led me to believe that they are considering to do it for real, and some actually have almost being more than 3/4 of the way!The girl I'm talking about is little spinner Isabel. Not surprising (nor disappointing) , she was not around on Saturday when she was suppossedly going to go to USA with me. I never had to explain that I wasn't taking her home with me nor did she have to explain that she wasn't coming. I decided to stay in the area a while longer. It will be interesting what she does if I see her at HK before I actually leave the area.

Girls' suggestions of coming to the USA are probably common, I've heard it several times over the years. On Thursday evening I received a non-serious comment from Vickie when she was dancing on the front bar stage. I approached her, gave her a dollar and said I was heading back to USA for the night. She gave a sad smile and jokingly said "take me with you."

These girls have multiple reasons for talking about going back to USA with us. Most important, they do anything possible to transfer the contents of our wallets into their purses. Second, I think there is a part of them that wants to leave Tijuana for an easy and happy life in the USA.

When all is said and done, leaving family and friends in Mexico for an uncertain world with a strange old man is far too scary. And, most of us are smart enough to leave them in Tijuana.

[MrSimple]

The girl I'm talking about is little spinner Isabel. Not surprising (nor disappointing) , she was not around on Saturday when she was suppossedly going to go to USA with me.Interesting. Take a look at HK thread. Recently Guitarfreak and I were talking about HK chica named Isabel / Isabella. Are we all talking about the same gal? HorseTrader, how deep is your relationship with her? LOL I want to try her out next time, but I do not want to crash into you with her. You know what I mean. Care you explain what / how she is like overall?

[Guitarrefreak]

Well summarized, the only girl that is coming close to actually going to the US (not "for" me, so I can claim an unbiased opinion) , is a chica who works in HK in the mornings, I don't know her stage name since I have ever only heard once in the 2 yrs I have known her so I won't be sharing her real name, she supposedly has a long running bf in SD (or LA) , whom she is gaga about forever, she speakers passable english, and she supposedly has passed certain requirements for getting her visiting visa.

If that chick truly comes to US successfully, I may change my attitude about chicas claiming they want to come (when they say that seriously) , otherwise, she is just another one of those.


The girl I'm talking about is little spinner Isabel. Not surprising (nor disappointing) , she was not around on Saturday when she was suppossedly going to go to USA with me. I never had to explain that I wasn't taking her home with me nor did she have to explain that she wasn't coming. I decided to stay in the area a while longer. It will be interesting what she does if I see her at HK before I actually leave the area.

Girls' suggestions of coming to the USA are probably common, I've heard it several times over the years. On Thursday evening I received a non-serious comment from Vickie when she was dancing on the front bar stage. I approached her, gave her a dollar and said I was heading back to USA for the night. She gave a sad smile and jokingly said "take me with you."

These girls have multiple reasons for talking about going back to USA with us. Most important, they do anything possible to transfer the contents of our wallets into their purses. Second, I think there is a part of them that wants to leave Tijuana for an easy and happy life in the USA.

When all is said and done, leaving family and friends in Mexico for an uncertain world with a strange old man is far too scary. And, most of us are smart enough to leave them in Tijuana.

[GolfSexRroll]

The girl I'm talking about is little spinner Isabel. Not surprising (nor disappointing) , she was not around on Saturday when she was suppossedly going to go to USA with me. I never had to explain that I wasn't taking her home with me nor did she have to explain that she wasn't coming. I decided to stay in the area a while longer. It will be interesting what she does if I see her at HK before I actually leave the area.

Girls' suggestions of coming to the USA are probably common, I've heard it several times over the years. On Thursday evening I received a non-serious comment from Vickie when she was dancing on the front bar stage. I approached her, gave her a dollar and said I was heading back to USA for the night. She gave a sad smile and jokingly said "take me with you."

These girls have multiple reasons for talking about going back to USA with us. Most important, they do anything possible to transfer the contents of our wallets into their purses. Second, I think there is a part of them that wants to leave Tijuana for an easy and happy life in the USA.

When all is said and done, leaving family and friends in Mexico for an uncertain world with a strange old man is far too scary. And, most of us are smart enough to leave them in Tijuana.I too have had this happen. I also have a few questions. My "novia" says she has papers in for a tourist Visa. She says she wants to see San Diego, Sea world, Disneyland and where I work and live. I have mostly dismissed this for a while as "Punta talk", you know about 98% bullshit!

Well she has a (real) job now (subsidised by SG work!) and has a few years history of rental residency in Tijuana. She is from Toluca / Mexico City. As far as I know no criminal past and she has a pre-adolesent son, never married single mother. My question is: (visa) does this sound like she has actually a chance of getting one? She says she could have it by Sept / Oct. I have the best of both worlds now. Visit and play in Tijuana. Love her and leave her and her "real life" for my "real life".

I; m realistic that there is NO WAY of a permenent long term relationship and I like (and NEED) that border between us! Does anyone have any info on this (her chances of getting it)? Mucho thank you. Cuidate'

[TomJackin]

i decided to stay the night at cascadas because i thought it might be a rougher night than usual, and it damn sure was just that!

it started out as a simple late afternoon in hk, but when diago (tja) showed up, things started going downhill hour by hour thereafter. i was scouting the place, but could not come up with the perfect package for my face and i; but i did not give up. after a while, my mesero, maricóand, brought over this new girl, and usually i wave her off, but this one had a couple of crooked teeth, so for some reason or another, i had her sit down.

we had a couple or three drinks and i realized that i liked "crooked." it wasn't long before my buddy, cachorrondo (isg) stopped over. cachorrondo finally broke off relations with the wicked witch of the west, and was now sporting a new hottie! i wanted to chat some, but crooked was working the little sailor into a frenzy, so i said my goodbyes and headed up to the room (i was staying the night.) crooked turned out to be a butt load of fun and time did not seem to be an issue with her; we stayed in the room for over an hour.

i came back relieved, unstressed, and ready to get booth follies started at full speed ahead. now i don't think that diago knew my wacked out personality or my lack of good judgment when i'm filled with tequila; but i'm sure after his hangover, he would regret the evening. we had the crazy blonde, the twins, the cousins, and more over to our small corner of the immorality world.

at one point, the girls got out of control. my girl decided to strip me down and plant her face in my ass. i'm so sorry if anyone witnessed that terrible event! i owe you if you did! at another point, the tequila mesero had his plastic fake dick out, and for whatever reason, i saw diago trying to bite the fucking head off! it was a kodak moment for damn sure! i get back to playing with my girl, it was like we were on our honeymoon, but more fun! i glanced over at diago, and "holy fucking christ!" the girls stripped off diago's pants and was attempting to insert his own beer bottle up his ass! after i took a picture, i stopped her and took the bottle from her. that was it; time to stop this silliness!

we decided we needed some food to slow things down. after eating and molesting a waitress at nikki's, the follies continued at playboy, and then on to cc, which was dead, and then on to bt, where i found a real cutie, but already forgot what she looked like.

after a few days of reflecting on the evening, as well as about pissing myself when i saw the photos, i can't help to feel responsible for corrupting the much younger diago. at one point, i felt like a proud father when he was diving in those beautiful asses. but then again, i felt sadden that diago had to witness and indulge in such debauchery; but i quickly got over the last thought! i figure, what the hell, why should diago miss out on psychological counseling.

[Member #4728]

I too have had this happen. I also have a few questions. My "novia" says she has papers in for a tourist Visa. She says she wants to see San Diego, Sea world, Disneyland and where I work and live. I have mostly dismissed this for a while as "Punta talk", you know about 98% bullshit!

Well she has a (real) job now (subsidised by SG work!) and has a few years history of rental residency in Tijuana. She is from Toluca / Mexico City. As far as I know no criminal past and she has a pre-adolesent son, never married single mother. My question is: (visa) does this sound like she has actually a chance of getting one? She says she could have it by Sept / Oct. I have the best of both worlds now. Visit and play in Tijuana. Love her and leave her and her "real life" for my "real life".

I; m realistic that there is NO WAY of a permenent long term relationship and I like (and NEED) that border between us! Does anyone have any info on this (her chances of getting it)? Mucho thank you. Cuidate'Hello,

The main requirement is that she must have a formal job the last six months, with mexican ocial security (IMSS) , where it has a net salary of 1, 500 pesos (120 dlls) per week at least, everything has to be proven with receipts pay and registration with IMSS.

Actually, even covering all requirements to the satisfaction of the immigration officer, I would say the chances of obtaining a visa for the first time is around 60-70%

[HorseTrader]

I had plans for 3 days in the zone, but business changes forced me to spend almost 2 weeks in the San Diego area. I ended up spending parts of 10 days wandering the streets and bars of the Zona Norte. Enough bar and street girls were sampled to cause complete sexual exhaustion. There won't be a strong desire to return for a good long time, perhaps a couple of weeks.

Once again, the Hong Kong girls were the highlight of the trip. So many hotties. I consistently have my best successes when the girl approaches me based on my smiles directed toward her. That process seems to eliminate the ones who don't like the way I look. The pre-arriba drink is important to assess personality, twice I skipped that drink and was later disappointed.

I was impressed with the intelligence of two of the Hong Kong girls. I spent about 2 hours in the room with the first girl and we had a great conversation. She said she is studying law at a local university; I believe it. She taught me quite a few things about the Mexican legal system, the corruption, and that the 'rich man wins and the poor man loses. ' She says she wants to be an honest lawyer, of which there are few. This girl was a real sweetheart and could fit in some very classy American social situations. I met the second smarty in the Cascadas elevator. She was carrying a huge book, of which I inquired. She showed it to me and explained that she was studying to become a pediatrician; the book title confirmed what she said. Later that day I bought her a drink in Hong Kong but was not attracted to her personality.

During the late morning and early afternoon there seemed to be several Hong Kong girls that would dance and then sit in a group and chat. Many of these were quite young and pretty; some wore the sashes and some didn't. They didn't approach men and few men approached them. They seldom sat with drinks and they seemed to receive very few tips; I never saw any of this group go arriba. I unsuccessfully approached two of them, both times learning that their English was worse than my Spanish. By the late afternoon they were gone. I can't imagine that they made much money.

Had an interesting chat with one girl from Mexico City. She claimed that she made about $300 per date in Mexico City and thought it was terrible that she sometimes only made $100 per date at Hong Kong. She was hot, but I can't believe that she consistently made that much money in either Mexico City or in Tijuana. The same girl told me she was working day shift as punishment for leaving the club early a few nights prior.

Price quotes from the Hong Kong girls ranged from $60 to a lone request for $100. Prices seem cheaper early in the day. Last November I heard one quote of $120, nothing so expensive this trip. Each time the price was negotiated down to be between $60 and $80, though I typically gave the best performers an extra $10. I think I may have given the lawyer-to-be a $40 tip after an exceptional and long session, that was $120 total for her.

According to one girl, the $8 you pay Hong Kong for her drink goes $5 to the bar and $3 to her. She also said that there is a daily drink quota; otherwise, she has to pay the bar to work. I think she said the quota was 5 drinks, but I really couldn't understand.

[HorseTrader]

Overnights were spent about half in my San Diego hotel and half at Ticuan. In prior visits my Ticuan room always had an exterior window; the natural light is appreciated. The first night was in a business suite where the only window opened to a lobby and my first sight was a man sitting about 3 feet outside my window. When you make reservations at Ticuan, be sure to request a room with an exterior window.

One pleasant Ticuan surprise was the credit card exchange rate. I specified charges in pesos and the exchange rate was better than any cash exchange rate I saw posted during the entire trip.

During this trip I only saw one escort. Usually I've been happy with the cumintj escorts, while this girl matched her pictures she was not at all what I wanted. I usually end up with real sweetheart types that make me feel like her boyfriend. This girl made me nervous by excessive wandering around the suite, playing with the TV, and other such behavior. Her advertisement posted multiple things that I didn't receive: DFK, DATY, and good English. She was almost the dominatrix type, which I don't enjoy at all. Seemed to want to finish me quickly with a BJ. Next time I'll talk to Mundo about the various girls' personalities; I'm sure he will help me find something more suitable next visit.

I will never do another 30-minute rental at Cascadas. I don't sleep at Cascadas, but I like having a quiet place to relax between sessions. With the 6th floor overnight rentals the girls tend to stay a little longer, in one case she stayed over 2 hours. The cum boys seemed happy to clean up the room for $3, I stayed there while they did the work which made the room look unused.

I talked to 3 out of town girls about the safety in Tijuana. They all said that Mexicans consider Tijuana to be a dangerous part of Mexico. I was reminded of the recent doorman shooting. Perhaps I have a false sense of security when I walk the touristy parts of Zona Norte. I will never have the nerve to walk to or from the border at night.

I went into the massage place across the street from Adalitas 2 or 3 times in 10 days. Each time I got a lineup but refused services. They remained nice to me and always invited me back for another lineup.

It seems that Las Chavales is a fun place for the girls to work. One problem with Hong Kong is many of the girls do not seem happy; their smiles seem forced. Contrast that to Las Chavales where most of the girls are always smiling and happy; they seem to really enjoy dancing with men. Though there are fewer lookers at Las Chavales, the average performance upstairs has been better from Las Chavales than from Hong Kong.

Some reports have said that the recent Tijuana street girl quality has been good. My experience was just the opposite. Physical appearance is either comparable or below what I've grown to expect. Performance in the room seems to have gone downhill. This could just be my lousy selection.

In the past I've parked at the lot behind Jack-in-the-Box for my short visits. That additional $7 charge for being 1-minute beyond 8 hours has been an irritant to me. This trip I used the UETA lot and was pleased. I'm seldom in a hurry and the extra mile of walking is good for me. I think the UETA lot was $7 for 24-hours.

I usually bring my meds from the US, but this trip was longer than expected and I ran out. My last vitamin C was from a very old bottle and it didn't work effectively. I found one pharmacy where the man was selling Viagra from a baggie in his pocket for $6 each. I refused it and bought real Viagra from another pharmacy for $14 for a 100 mg pill. I couldn't find the 50 mg or 25 mg pills sold in single pill packages. The next day I went back to the $6 / pill pharmacy and the woman working said they didn't sell Viagra; that makes me wonder what the man was really selling in that baggie.

After this long stay in San Diego and Tijuana I'm now back on the east coast. Made lots of nice memories and have no guilty feeling at all. Perhaps that is one benefit of being unmarried with a SO who assumes that men on travel will find sexual satisfaction wherever they might go.

[RimmDigger]

Cachorrondo finally broke off relations with the Wicked Witch of the West, and was now sporting a new hottie!.Hooray!

Very well said!

[TomJackin]

After this long stay in San Diego and Tijuana I'm now back on the east coast. Made lots of nice memories and have no guilty feeling at all. Perhaps that is one benefit of being unmarried with a SO who assumes that men on travel will find sexual satisfaction wherever they might go.Very good report HT! Thanks for taking the time and reporting.

[The Hammer1169]

I had plans for 3 days in the zone, but business changes forced me to spend almost 2 weeks in the San Diego area. I ended up spending parts of 10 days wandering the streets and bars of the Zona Norte. Enough bar and street girls were sampled to cause complete sexual exhaustion. There won't be a strong desire to return for a good long time, perhaps a couple of weeks.

Once again, the Hong Kong girls were the highlight of the trip. So many hotties. I consistently have my best successes when the girl approaches me based on my smiles directed toward her. That process seems to eliminate the ones who don't like the way I look. The pre-arriba drink is important to assess personality, twice I skipped that drink and was later disappointed.

I was impressed with the intelligence of two of the Hong Kong girls. I spent about 2 hours in the room with the first girl and we had a great conversation. She said she is studying law at a local university; I believe it. She taught me quite a few things about the Mexican legal system, the corruption, and that the 'rich man wins and the poor man loses. ' She says she wants to be an honest lawyer, of which there are few. This girl was a real sweetheart and could fit in some very classy American social situations. I met the second smarty in the Cascadas elevator. She was carrying a huge book, of which I inquired. She showed it to me and explained that she was studying to become a pediatrician; the book title confirmed what she said. Later that day I bought her a drink in Hong Kong but was not attracted to her personality.

During the late morning and early afternoon there seemed to be several Hong Kong girls that would dance and then sit in a group and chat. Many of these were quite young and pretty; some wore the sashes and some didn't. They didn't approach men and few men approached them. They seldom sat with drinks and they seemed to receive very few tips; I never saw any of this group go arriba. I unsuccessfully approached two of them, both times learning that their English was worse than my Spanish. By the late afternoon they were gone. I can't imagine that they made much money.

Had an interesting chat with one girl from Mexico City. She claimed that she made about $300 per date in Mexico City and thought it was terrible that she sometimes only made $100 per date at Hong Kong. She was hot, but I can't believe that she consistently made that much money in either Mexico City or in Tijuana. The same girl told me she was working day shift as punishment for leaving the club early a few nights prior.

Price quotes from the Hong Kong girls ranged from $60 to a lone request for $100. Prices seem cheaper early in the day. Last November I heard one quote of $120, nothing so expensive this trip. Each time the price was negotiated down to be between $60 and $80, though I typically gave the best performers an extra $10. I think I may have given the lawyer-to-be a $40 tip after an exceptional and long session, that was $120 total for her.

According to one girl, the $8 you pay Hong Kong for her drink goes $5 to the bar and $3 to her. She also said that there is a daily drink quota; otherwise, she has to pay the bar to work. I think she said the quota was 5 drinks, but I really couldn't understand.The girl was giving it to you straight. The top end escorts in Mexico City make $250-$300 a date. These are your very top end ladies however. I know many who made the circuit to Mexico City and made great money by wealthy business men. They worked out of the strip clubs and stayed at the finest hotels. Now; your average SG or bar girl won't pull that, but again the top end girls will.

[The Hammer1169]

i too have had this happen. i also have a few questions. my "novia" says she has papers in for a tourist visa. she says she wants to see san diego, sea world, disneyland and where i work and live. i have mostly dismissed this for a while as "punta talk", you know about 98% bullshit!

well she has a (real) job now (subsidised by sg work!) and has a few years history of rental residency in tijuana. she is from toluca / mexico city. as far as i know no criminal past and she has a pre-adolesent son, never married single mother. my question is: (visa) does this sound like she has actually a chance of getting one? she says she could have it by sept / oct. i have the best of both worlds now. visit and play in tijuana. love her and leave her and her "real life" for my "real life".

i; m realistic that there is no way of a permenent long term relationship and i like (and need) that border between us! does anyone have any info on this (her chances of getting it)? mucho thank you. cuidate'been through this. i married a tijuana stripper and have been with her here in arizona for five years. she applied for a tourist visa three times before i met her at a strip club in tijuana (amnesia club) in 2008. she was denied each time she applied despite having two homes she was buying in mexico. the states know that a single girl with no other family members with tourist visas, known as a "b-visa" will enter and never return to mexico; period.

their criteria for a tourist visa is based on the following: (1) home ownership in mexico (2) full time employment for two or more years in a legitimate job, preferably a personal business you can show income and tax payments on (3) strong ties to mexico including family, family business, children etc. (4) no criminal history in mexico (i heard the states are now checking the mexico health department in the city they live to see if girls are registered sex industry workers) (5) no history of sex worker. (6) other family members with visas who have a history of not over staying the visa or viloating it.

again; despite my wife purposely working to meet all legal requirements for a b-visa by using a rented office and running her stripper money through her hair stylist "business" which was really a front, paying taxes regularly on that business to make it look legitimate, having two homes she was purchasing, and strong family ties to mexico, they denied her application three times.

after i met her and we dated for awhile i stepped in and wrote a letter to the government on her behalf complaining they were violating their own policies by denying her because she met every criteria set forth by the immigration agency for a b-visa. i got her another hearing, and they granted her a tourist visa so we could see each other in the states. we then went fiance visa and the rest is history. by the way; even the fiance visa is a hassle. they accused her of violating her b-visa by living with me in the states illegally, grilled her in juarez about her being a "sex worker" and tested her for stds and tb, physically watched her squat and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) for a drug test which she was mortified over, and held her there for almost 10-days before they issued the fiance visa. she said that a man literally stood behind a wall, opened a little door into the bathroom so his face showed, and told her to drop her pants and [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134). when she protested he told her straight out "look; i see both men and women do this all day, so you have nothing new for me to see, and if you want to get your visa you will [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) right now." so; she dropped her pants with her little shaved pussy standing out like a sore dick, and pissed.

now; on a different note; most of these strippers or sex workers want their tourist visas so they can hit las vegas or san diego and continue their "work" in the states. i have no doubt that was my wife's intent before she met me. my wife made one mention of that and i told her if that was her plan then she could stay in mexico. many of her friends who i met in mexico had that single ambition; tourist visa to get into the states, and keep stripping / escorting for more money in the states. they know that the going price in the states is more than double what they pull for a date in mexico. some of what they believe is "stories" other girls who have crossed illegally come back and tell.

one girl i met through my wife said she made a $1000 a night in las vegas through a high end strip joint that catered to high end clients. based on what i saw; probably true! this girl was 100% model material. however, that isn't the case for the average girls. they would likely become backpage escorts or typical strippers giving $50 bjs. truth is they are probably better off in mexico because of the cost of living. my wife averaged $300 a night when working, and she wasn't turning tricks except on rare occasions when she got to really know a repeat client on a long term basis; then and only then did she provide full service. i personally saw her come home with $1200 in one night with no sex provided. guy in his 60's just threw money at her all night for lap dances and private dances. she left at 9:00pm and ran home shaking $100 bills in my face.

as for us; she never looked back at the industry after entering the states. while waiting for her employment card to come she made one small reference to working as a waitress at a strip club and i told her to pack her shit. she never discussed it again and has become a model wife and works full time as a waitress at a restaraunt. like i have always said; leopards never change their spots, they just fade away. the only complaint i have ever had about her is i thought marrying a stripper would mean kinky, hot sex with a little sexy body every night. i forgot that even strippers are people! so we have the same rotuine most couples have in that regard. but; i snuggle up to a 5'0, 110lb little hotty every night, and get to watch that hot body every morning and night. not bad for a guy pushing 50 with a wife 30! she was 25 when i met her and a barbie doll figure. still has it.

anyway; back to your question: not a snow ball's chance in hell your friend will get a visa unless she orchestrates meeting every criteria the government demands. as for you: be careful you don't get too deep. these girls are all about money and material gain. they see men as a dollar sign just as much as we see them as a fuck toy. to this day i still see that material side show through my wife. again; those spots never go away, they just fade over time until they get too old to carry out their ambition. truth is; if i had it to do over i probably would not have went through the process i went through. to this day at times i get jealous and pissed at the thought of the men my wife has seen and who have had their way with her. these relationships are complex man. deeply complex. while living with her in mexico for a couple of years it was almost torture watching her walk out of the door. i would literally inspect her when she came home. trust is huge in this type of relationship. even after five years of 100% faithfulness on her part i still wonder "is she fucking somebody? how did she make that money?" the stress, especially early in the relationship, is very heavy. unless you are one of those guys who just don't care. i did / do and the sooner i got her out of mexico the better.

the other aspect i talk about on here openly is the grand illusion that these girls really "like" fucking every night. they don't. i really, truly believed that my wife and i would be having nasty, kinky sex every night like porn starrs because that is what they portray on stage. not! these girls mostly go through a period initially where they want no sex because they can finally control their body. then they have the same appetite as the average woman does; 2-3 times a week. in fact they actually despise their job and resent it and the men who buy them. a guy wrote on here the other day how the girls at hong kong club seem to "force" their smiles and are not truly happy. no shit! these girls don't like what life has dished up to them. only the snakey meth heads and coke heads like what they do because it brings them their drugs. these women have dreams, families, boyfriends, and some have husbands they would much rather be with instead of getting groped all night, their tits stroked and touched, and guys pawing at their pussies. just telling it straight as i always do!

good luck!

[The Hammer1169]

Perhaps Mr. Hammer will beat some sense into me. Last 4 days were in the zona. New favorite is a young spinner, exactly 1/3 my age. Spent 2 HK sessions on Tuesday and Wednesday. Spent 6 hours, Thursday and 5 hours Friday doing non zona things. Yesterday she said I promised to take her home when I go. She said she will have her passport / visa packed and ready to go at 8pm on Saturday. Hopefully Shefg is just blowing smoke and won't have any bags packed.I had to laugh when I read this! Sounds like my rants are being read on here. You know how I feel about the subject. A leopard can't change their spots; they only fade over time. You guys all know my story; mostly good but the big mistake I made was thinking that marrying a Tijuana stripper would result in kinky, nasty sex every night. Lets face it; that's what I first saw in my wife. A petite little Barbie doll marching around stage like Cleopatra. BUT, I found out these girls are just like all women, hormonal as fuck and 'moody. ' So what does that mean; about two times a week. HOWEVER; I got really fortunate in that my lady was from a small pueblo and raised by a traditional grandmother who taught her how to cook traditional and take care of a house. So the benefits are pressed laundry, great dinners every night, lunch packed every morning, and a hot, hard body with a nice ass spooning me every night. Down side; I get that ass about once every four days when I desire it every day. But, for a guy pushing 50 with a petite 30 year old that still passes for a high school girl; I suppose I am ok.

Truth is I got damned lucky. Most of these girls bail out the DAY their green cards arrive. My wife has stayed right by my side. In fact I have packed her shit up and loaded her car a couple of times in a fit of testosterone rage and she just quietly unpacks everything and goes to bed. The last time I did it she rolled over, looked at me and said 'this time you are putting it all back. ' So looks like I got a keeper whether I at times like it or not. (by the way, I put it all back)

98% of these girls are gaming money every waking moment. My wife was no different. Some how I turned the game on her though and truth be told lived off her buck after a lay off in 2008. I lived for free with her for two years in Mexico, so I guess I won the game. HOWEVER; I am a rare winner. I know these girls and I know what they want: A ticket to the states where they can ply their trade and turn more tricks, period. For some reason they all want to go to Vegas. I heard that out of every one of those girls I met and partied with, including my wife early in our dating. They think strippers make a $1000 a night there. Also; allot get their Green Cards and go back to Mexico believe it or not.

The girl you are writing about was feeling you out for a slow play opportunity; no doubt in my mind. She wanted to see your reaction, pull you in, and start getting money for nothing as you chase that shaved pussy. And truth is: She got in your head didn't she? You see what I mean? They are gamers, every one of them. I have seen it so many times in my two years on the stripper circuit. I told this story many times: My wife once walked in after a 6-hour shift with 12 $100. 00 bills at 9:00PM after her shift at Maui Maui in Mexicali ended. She gamed a man in his late 50's for 6-hours telling him she would leave with him while he traveled Mexico in his motor home. Guy saw a petite. 5'0 110Lb. Girl and opened his wallet. He was throwing $100 bills at her for table dances and private dances. Last time he saw her she was jumping in a cab and heading home to me. He came back to try and get his money back three days in a row. My wife's friends were calling her and telling her to not come to work as the guy was pissed.

I always felt for that guy, but at the same time we MUST NEVER forget these girls don't do what they do because it is their passion. Money is their passion, period. They see dollar signs in men like we see fuck toys in them. Once you understand that relationship it all gets easier and less expensive. I think in my case I met that rare girl who despised what she did and wanted out of the industry and I gave her that opportunity. I chuckle when I read these stories about how the girl was GF experience and loved her job, the girl is a 'novia' Etc. Bullshit. They can't tell you one detail about what happened in that room 24 hours later and each one is a clock watcher, some just conceal it better than others. It is just a blur as they do what they do and look forward to getting off work so they can rush to the babysitter and get their kids, or go home to their real boyfriends. Every girl I ever met through my wife said they hate their job. They just get hard and close their hearts off to any emotions.

This sound familiar? : CBJ, Missionary, Cowgirl, Doggie, shoot your load. You know why it sounds familiar? Because they all use the same routine. Took three years for me to break that barrier down with my wife but there are still times to this day she will pull that same routine on me minus the rubber: BBJ, missionary, on top, flip me over and crack your nut. I always know when she carries that out she is just going through the motion to bring peace to the bedroom. Not complaining though! So even if you do successfully immigrate one to the states, be in for a very complex relationship full of stress and allot of damage to wade through. Let me ask you this; can you deal with knowing your wife has seen enough cock, big ones and small ones, fat ones and short ones, than you ever dreamed of? Can you deal with the knowledge when your wife moans that she has done it for who knows how many men? If you can't then don't get into it. I don't discuss it with my wife. The nearest I came to discussing it with her is one time early in the marriage I asked her "look, I worry that I can't fulfill you. I mean, you must have seen bigger than me." She looked right at me square in the eye and said "the last cock I saw before you was two inches and I laughed out loud." Another big difference; my wife was a high end stripper and only gave full service on rare occasions and it cost. There was never another "date" from the moment we met. That ended. But; this is an example of what one has to over come in these relationships. Jealousy, lack of trust, no confidence, years of seeing sex as a money maker not an act of love, among allot more!

Crossing the border every weekend is easier and cheaper! Now; you could flip the game on her and slow play her out! That is what I did to my wife. I turned the game on her and I guess I won her over. Again; my marriage hasn't been the fuckfest I thought it would be, but I suppose that is the story of every married man's life! I do have eye candy with me at all times and am well taken care of. But my advice to anyone thinking of it is you are in for A LOT OF WORK! And chances are you will be the one getting fucked! They know exactly how to tangle a man up in their webb. One last thing; she never once mentioned returning to stripping after our marriage. She has worked as a waitress in a restaraunt since she immigrated. The closest she has come is early in our marriage while waiting for her permit to work she mentioned work as a waitress at a strip club because they don't check papers. I told her if she ever mentioned it again she was out the door. That was five years ago.

[GolfSexRroll]

been through this. i married a tijuana stripper and have been with her here in arizona for five years. she applied for a tourist visa three times before i met her at a strip club in tijuana (amnesia club) in 2008. she was denied each time she applied despite having two homes she was buying in mexico. the states know that a single girl with no other family members with tourist visas, known as a "b-visa" will enter and never return to mexico; period.

their criteria for a tourist visa is based on the following: (1) home ownership in mexico (2) full time employment for two or more years in a legitimate job, preferably a personal business you can show income and tax payments on (3) strong ties to mexico including family, family business, children etc. (4) no criminal history in mexico (i heard the states are now checking the mexico health department in the city they live to see if girls are registered sex industry workers) (5) no history of sex worker. (6) other family members with visas who have a history of not over staying the visa or viloating it.

again; despite my wife purposely working to meet all legal requirements for a b-visa by using a rented office and running her stripper money through her hair stylist "business" which was really a front, paying taxes regularly on that business to make it look legitimate, having two homes she was purchasing, and strong family ties to mexico, they denied her application three times.

after i met her and we dated for awhile i stepped in and wrote a letter to the government on her behalf complaining they were violating their own policies by denying her because she met every criteria set forth by the immigration agency for a b-visa. i got her another hearing, and they granted her a tourist visa so we could see each other in the states. we then went fiance visa and the rest is history. by the way; even the fiance visa is a hassle. they accused her of violating her b-visa by living with me in the states illegally, grilled her in juarez about her being a "sex worker" and tested her for stds and tb, physically watched her squat and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) for a drug test which she was mortified over, and held her there for almost 10-days before they issued the fiance visa. she said that a man literally stood behind a wall, opened a little door into the bathroom so his face showed, and told her to drop her pants and [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134). when she protested he told her straight out "look; i see both men and women do this all day, so you have nothing new for me to see, and if you want to get your visa you will [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) right now." so; she dropped her pants with her little shaved pussy standing out like a sore dick, and pissed.

now; on a different note; most of these strippers or sex workers want their tourist visas so they can hit las vegas or san diego and continue their "work" in the states. i have no doubt that was my wife's intent before she met me. my wife made one mention of that and i told her if that was her plan then she could stay in mexico. many of her friends who i met in mexico had that single ambition; tourist visa to get into the states, and keep stripping / escorting for more money in the states. they know that the going price in the states is more than double what they pull for a date in mexico. some of what they believe is "stories" other girls who have crossed illegally come back and tell.

one girl i met through my wife said she made a $1000 a night in las vegas through a high end strip joint that catered to high end clients. based on what i saw; probably true! this girl was 100% model material. however, that isn't the case for the average girls. they would likely become backpage escorts or typical strippers giving $50 bjs. truth is they are probably better off in mexico because of the cost of living. my wife averaged $300 a night when working, and she wasn't turning tricks except on rare occasions when she got to really know a repeat client on a long term basis; then and only then did she provide full service. i personally saw her come home with $1200 in one night with no sex provided. guy in his 60's just threw money at her all night for lap dances and private dances. she left at 9:00pm and ran home shaking $100 bills in my face.

as for us; she never looked back at the industry after entering the states. while waiting for her employment card to come she made one small reference to working as a waitress at a strip club and i told her to pack her shit. she never discussed it again and has become a model wife and works full time as a waitress at a restaraunt. like i have always said; leopards never change their spots, they just fade away. the only complaint i have ever had about her is i thought marrying a stripper would mean kinky, hot sex with a little sexy body every night. i forgot that even strippers are people! so we have the same rotuine most couples have in that regard. but; i snuggle up to a 5'0, 110lb little hotty every night, and get to watch that hot body every morning and night. not bad for a guy pushing 50 with a wife 30! she was 25 when i met her and a barbie doll figure. still has it.

anyway; back to your question: not a snow ball's chance in hell your friend will get a visa unless she orchestrates meeting every criteria the government demands. as for you: be careful you don't get too deep. these girls are all about money and material gain. they see men as a dollar sign just as much as we see them as a fuck toy. to this day i still see that material side show through my wife. again; those spots never go away, they just fade over time until they get too old to carry out their ambition. truth is; if i had it to do over i probably would not have went through the process i went through. to this day at times i get jealous and pissed at the thought of the men my wife has seen and who have had their way with her. these relationships are complex man. deeply complex. while living with her in mexico for a couple of years it was almost torture watching her walk out of the door. i would literally inspect her when she came home. trust is huge in this type of relationship. even after five years of 100% faithfulness on her part i still wonder "is she fucking somebody? how did she make that money?" the stress, especially early in the relationship, is very heavy. unless you are one of those guys who just don't care. i did / do and the sooner i got her out of mexico the better.

the other aspect i talk about on here openly is the grand illusion that these girls really "like" fucking every night. they don't. i really, truly believed that my wife and i would be having nasty, kinky sex every night like porn starrs because that is what they portray on stage. not! these girls mostly go through a period initially where they want no sex because they can finally control their body. then they have the same appetite as the average woman does; 2-3 times a week. in fact they actually despise their job and resent it and the men who buy them. a guy wrote on here the other day how the girls at hong kong club seem to "force" their smiles and are not truly happy. no shit! these girls don't like what life has dished up to them. only the snakey meth heads and coke heads like what they do because it brings them their drugs. these women have dreams, families, boyfriends, and some have husbands they would much rather be with instead of getting groped all night, their tits stroked and touched, and guys pawing at their pussies. just telling it straight as i always do!

good luck!thanks for the info! i a'm so greatfull for your very insightfull information. if i did not have this forum and advise like yours i would be in a world of hurt. yes these girls are good. everything you say is spot on true. if i was in this situation and not have insight like yours and others i would truly be fucked (not in the good sense).

i do like (not love in a traditional sense) my "novia" but i always tell her she is playing me. i always laugh at her in the middle of sex! just cracks me up knowing it is all make believe! she asks whats so funny and i just sey "this" and she has no idea what i mean. she just says i'm loco. i say "si".

she told me she really does not like sex. hammer, so i know what you mean. i am sure she can't get a visa, but had that fear in the back of my head.

some times even now she gets a little lazy and "slacks " up. sexo it seems gets a little (routine). i've seen her now every week for a year now. i told her " i pay your rent-do the math-be good to me."

i usually wait to go arriba with other chica / amiga favorites.after my novia goes home because i have to take any sgs past her to cascada to my room. i am funny about that. well last night she told me (after our session.she was going home) and i believed her! she did not set her clock ahead and was 1 hr late to meet me and pushed her "working time" up one hr also, which i did not take into consideration. i did not see her and took my friend daniella to the room right past my novia. i got a nasty look, i just smiled, but i felt like i got caught cheating on her. yes its stupid- she's a puta and i'm a john- taking another puta arriba! i'm alway on the 2nd floor in cascada and she takes chicos past me all the time! i'm loco!

i'm thinking only better sex can come from this from her (my novia) when she doesen't see me as a"shoe in".

it is what it is. that border is my friend (crossing it sucks- 2 hrs last night). whatever happens- happens. i really try to let the big head talk! thanks to everyone for the advise and it is always taken into consideration to save my sanity. cuidate.

[FlapJacK]

finally hooked up with the cutie i met at alelitas end of last year. after seeing her several times at the club we exchanged emails and phone numbers and have kept in touch mostly by email and text over the months. i have been surprised at how she has keep touch with me and checks in every week to ask how i am dong and when i will be coming again.

anyways i had half day of work on friday and decided would try to meet with her. i arrived at the border around 3 pm and texted her letting her know i was in town and on foot, she asked me to meet her a hotel called velario which is on 1st street near ninos heros. i got to the hotel and its was no hassle getting a room. the single bed rooms are 30 bucks for the night, the rooms are good size, clean, large flat screen on the wall with free cable, average but comfortable bed, they also have wifi which i did not use and food service that i did not use. very quiet yet only a few blocks away from the action. i got the room and texted her the number. she was there within a few minutes. apparently she lives at this hotel with an other chica that shares the rent with her. she showed up looking beautiful as ever with her very long jet black hair and normal clothes looking like how any other classy normal girl might look. she gave me a big hug and kiss as i closed the door behind us. after only chatting a few minutes she begin to peel off my jacket off.

i was trying to be nice and be a gentlemen but she would have none of that, she kept pulling my clothing off while with big smile on her face so i joined in and began to strip her as well. after only a few minutes she as on top of me going at it. she needed to be at work at 11 pm so we had a good 5 hours of hanging out in the room talking, watching jeepers creepers ii and having repeated sex. out of the 4 times of having sex with her she instigated each one. she is 25 and i am 42 and its a good thing i am strong in the cardio department or else i could have had a stroke or something.

i'm still trying to figure this all out. why she is spending this time me. my first guess is obviously the money but when it was time for her to leave for get ready to work i offered her a few hundred bucks and she told me the money was not important and that she enjoyed just being with me. this makes no sense to me? what is she buttering me up for i wonder? she wanted me to stay the night while she went to work but i told her i was not prepared for that. no clean clothes or tooth brush but told her next time i would stay the night if possible. she said the next time we would go out to dinner, dancing and drinking. also told her i might do the rosarito / ensenada bike ride in may, she said she would like to stay that weekend with me and help out with transportation with her car if i end up going.

the line getting back friday night was very short i had a pretty good headache on the way home, i suspect from not drinking or eating anything since late morning. saturday legs were pretty darn sore from the work out i am guessing.

anyways i am not looking for a wife or serious girl friend but will definitely be her good friend and treat her good while this last. i also wonder about how many others guys she got queued up for this sort of stuff lol.

well it was a good time

[MadisonGuy]

Well summarized, the only girl that is coming close to actually going to the US (not "for" me, so I can claim an unbiased opinion) , is a chica who works in HK in the mornings, I don't know her stage name since I have ever only heard once in the 2 yrs I have known her so I won't be sharing her real name, she supposedly has a long running bf in SD (or LA) , whom she is gaga about forever, she speakers passable english, and she supposedly has passed certain requirements for getting her visiting visa.

If that chick truly comes to US successfully, I may change my attitude about chicas claiming they want to come (when they say that seriously) , otherwise, she is just another one of those.Guitar I'm surprised you don't have a girl over there yet, glad to see you're still posting. If I were living on the border I don't think it would be long before a couple wifey me up. The zona is not the place to find a girl, that's the place to go to cheat on a girl safely. It's been almost 2 years and finally I get to come back to Tijuana so I'm checking out if anything has changed. I'm on the other side of the country now so San Jose, and DR beat out Tijuana. But Tijuana is still my favorite. Awesome tacos, both kinds!

[Guitarrefreak]

sounds like you had an amazing time buddy.

so many red flags, yet so many possible great outcomes.

maybe she really just likes it, its rare, but it happens, and maybe you are a nice enough guy to help her forget her work.

i have been told by chicas that she (they) like me simply because of the way i smile back at her (them) , and refuses my money repeatedly (on occasions i pay for a taxi, a cheap meal, etc)

the only gentlemanly advice i can provide is, if you like her, and you like the situation you guys are in right now, better be up front with her about wanting to be casual, then to endure the latina wrath if and when it definitely happens, i made the mistake of stringing along a chica a while back, without clearly understand what i nor she wanted, so it became a big mistake.


finally hooked up with the cutie i met at alelitas end of last year. after seeing her several times at the club we exchanged emails and phone numbers and have kept in touch mostly by email and text over the months. i have been surprised at how she has keep touch with me and checks in every week to ask how i am dong and when i will be coming again.

anyways i had half day of work on friday and decided would try to meet with her. i arrived at the border around 3 pm and texted her letting her know i was in town and on foot, she asked me to meet her a hotel called velario which is on 1st street near ninos heros. i got to the hotel and its was no hassle getting a room. the single bed rooms are 30 bucks for the night, the rooms are good size, clean, large flat screen on the wall with free cable, average but comfortable bed, they also have wifi which i did not use and food service that i did not use. very quiet yet only a few blocks away from the action. i got the room and texted her the number. she was there within a few minutes. apparently she lives at this hotel with an other chica that shares the rent with her. she showed up looking beautiful as ever with her very long jet black hair and normal clothes looking like how any other classy normal girl might look. she gave me a big hug and kiss as i closed the door behind us. after only chatting a few minutes she begin to peel off my jacket off.

i was trying to be nice and be a gentlemen but she would have none of that, she kept pulling my clothing off while with big smile on her face so i joined in and began to strip her as well. after only a few minutes she as on top of me going at it. she needed to be at work at 11 pm so we had a good 5 hours of hanging out in the room talking, watching jeepers creepers ii and having repeated sex. out of the 4 times of having sex with her she instigated each one. she is 25 and i am 42 and its a good thing i am strong in the cardio department or else i could have had a stroke or something.

i'm still trying to figure this all out. why she is spending this time me. my first guess is obviously the money but when it was time for her to leave for get ready to work i offered her a few hundred bucks and she told me the money was not important and that she enjoyed just being with me. this makes no sense to me? what is she buttering me up for i wonder? she wanted me to stay the night while she went to work but i told her i was not prepared for that. no clean clothes or tooth brush but told her next time i would stay the night if possible. she said the next time we would go out to dinner, dancing and drinking. also told her i might do the rosarito / ensenada bike ride in may, she said she would like to stay that weekend with me and help out with transportation with her car if i end up going.

the line getting back friday night was very short i had a pretty good headache on the way home, i suspect from not drinking or eating anything since late morning. saturday legs were pretty darn sore from the work out i am guessing.

anyways i am not looking for a wife or serious girl friend but will definitely be her good friend and treat her good while this last. i also wonder about how many others guys she got queued up for this sort of stuff lol.

well it was a good time

[FlapJacK]

Ha-ha well I am not looking for the Latina wrath, hope to never experience it. I figure I would go along and see what move if any she makes. I think this was the first time I visit Tijuana in the 20 years I been going and not visit a club. She is very pretty, very sweet and I treated her with lots of respect, not to say I could never fall for such a girl, but For now I keep my guard up and try to have fun. But I also felt a slight guilt about the whole thing but maybe that's because I see her as Yong pretty and innocent in some way.


Sounds like you had an amazing time buddy.

So many red flags, yet so many possible great outcomes.

Maybe she really just likes it, its rare, but it happens, and maybe you are a nice enough guy to help her forget her work.

I have been told by chicas that she (they) like me simply because of the way I smile back at her (them) , and refuses my money repeatedly (on occasions I pay for a taxi, a cheap meal, etc)

The only gentlemanly advice I can provide is, if you like her, and you like the situation you guys are in right now, better be up front with her about wanting to be casual, then to endure the latina wrath if and when it definitely happens, I made the mistake of stringing along a chica a while back, without clearly understand what I nor she wanted, so it became a big mistake.

[Efjayel]

I have question for you guys. I've never driven a car into Tijuana and would like to know what exactly is involved in doing so. What am I supposed to show and if I am required to purchase Mexican insurance? How much and for how long? Are there certainly lanes I should avoid while driving in, and what if any other things I should be wary of. Once I am let in with my car, do I get a permit of some kind that I am supposed to show to the police in the case if I am ever pulled over? Plus how long can I keep the car in Tijuana?

Any info would be appreciated.

EDIT: Hey, this is my 1,100 post! I'm not sure if I should be proud or ashamed 0.0

[Artisttyp]

I have question for you guys. I've never driven a car into Tijuana and would like to know what exactly is involved in doing so. What am I supposed to show and if I am required to purchase Mexican insurance? How much and for how long? Are there certainly lanes I should avoid while driving in, and what if any other things I should be wary of. Once I am let in with my car, do I get a permit of some kind that I am supposed to show to the police in the case if I am ever pulled over? Plus how long can I keep the car in Tijuana?

Any info would be appreciated.

EDIT: Hey, this is my 1, 100 post! I'm not sure if I should be proud or ashamed 0. 0Make your life VERY SIMPLE and leave the car at home. Even a rental car is an invitation to rob you blind or go to jail. Take cabs or executive class buses to travel.

[Efjayel]

Yeah I know and have heard the horror stories many times before but I'm not looking for "visitor beware" stories at the moment, just information on how to cross a car through the Tijuana border.

I guess I should mention that I've rented cars in Tijuana before and have had no problems. Never stopped by the police, or targeted for robbery. Thanks for your concerns though. It's also appreciated.

[Keg]

Anybody going to the Zona on St. Patick's Day?

I'll be down. Shouldn't be hard to spot, a gringo wearing green and drinking a Dos Equis green bottle.

Cheers,

Keg

[KC Questor]

I have question for you guys. I've never driven a car into Tijuana and would like to know what exactly is involved in doing so. What am I supposed to show and if I am required to purchase Mexican insurance? How much and for how long? Are there certainly lanes I should avoid while driving in, and what if any other things I should be wary of. Once I am let in with my car, do I get a permit of some kind that I am supposed to show to the police in the case if I am ever pulled over? Plus how long can I keep the car in Tijuana?

My last two trips to Mexico both involved driving my car over the border. The first was in Juarez with a brand new car (less than a week old). I didn't buy any special insurance, I just drove across the border and parked at my hotel. Then I drove back across the next day. The border agent told me that I was stupid for driving my car into Mexico. I thanked him and re-entered the US.

My most recent trip was driving into Tijuana. I was planning to be there for three days, including a drive to Ensenada, so I did purchase Mexican car insurance. I did it online online through http://www.bajabound.com but there are lots of places to buy it. You can also get it at any number of drive-through places on either side of the border. It was about $12 per day, but I was driving an older car.

Driving in Mexico was really straightforward. I had maps printed out in advance, and getting from the border to the Zona was just as described. I parked in the lot across from Hong Kong. The lot was guarded and it was very handy having a place to store my luggage besides the room. I did take a cab when I went to dinner in Tijuana, but driving to Ensenada was simple. The signs were in English and Spanish, and the toll plazas were just as I had read in the travel sites online.

Driving back across the border was the biggest pain in the butt. I sat in traffic for almost two hours, inching forward every few minutes while locals pushed carts among the stopped cars selling food and souvenirs. Once at the border, though, it was straightforward. The guy asked me about my trip, a dog sniffed my tires, and I was waved on through. Later on that same trip to San Diego, I only had one day in Tijuana I chose to leave my car in the US and walk across. But for a multi-day trip I would be fine driving into Mexico again. The convenience of having all of my luggage nearby is definitely worth the hassle and cost of insurance.

I was never stopped by the police so I have no idea if you need to show them special papers. I had copies of my US drivers license, US passport, US car insurance, Mexican car insurance, title, and registration all ready in case it was needed.

[Efjayel]

Thanks for the info Questor.

A few questions though. Did you have to present anything regarding the car to the border patrol when going through the border, either coming or going? Besides insurance, are there any fees to pass a car through the border? Is insurance required or is that up to the driver? Do they take down your car information and give you a limited amount of time until you are required to return the car back into the states?

[TomJackin]

i was debating on whether to hit la coahuila or not because of the weather. i had a couple of umbrellas, so the debate didn't last very long. i stopped by the hk customer service desk to say hi to the daytime hottie, but i was told she doesn't work there anymore; dammit! hk has this new little fucking ticket machine. so if you use the vip card for a drink, or if you use a 2 for 1 coupon, you must have a ticket from this stupid fucking machine! which takes forever and a day to get, and you have to be there to get the ticket!

got my lousy free drink and headed for the booths. it was slow in hk, maybe the rain had something to do with that. it wasn't long before my buddy, cachorrondo (isg) stopped over. soon thereafter, i spotted the perfect ass walking around. i yelled,"holy fuck! did you see that ass?" once cachorrondo saw the "ass," we were both in shock. it was like someone let a hot columbian work in hk. maricóand was nowhere in sight, but i have him on my speed dial. i called him and he came a running. i said,"god damn you maricóand, where are you when i actually need you? fetch dammit!"

besides the ass, the girl was beautiful and had a smoking hot body. i managed to get a couple of photos of her ass, but that was about it. her name? not a fucking clue. but i could pick her out in a police lineup, especially if they had the girls turn around with asses facing out! she drank a tad too fast, so i sent her packing. she seemed a tad cold as well, but i could be wrong about that. then the crazy older blonde came over, and she appeared thirsty, but i pushed her ass towards cachorrondo, and he bought her a drink; sorry dude! but i still got a shot of her twins.

a bit later, maricóand comes walking over with this girl that i saw before, but never talked to her. before the drink, we chatted for a bit; i liked her. she was up for the nipple and ass pictures. she offered up hotel time for $50, but i didn't like her that much. there are many street girls that are a lot hotter than her, and i was just not that interested. i was about to throw in the towel and head out into the alley, but then i walked dead into one of my new favorites.

change of plans, back to the booth! we had a couple of drinks, then it was up to the room. she wanted to go out the front of hk because of the chilly and wet weather. i give the dude at the hotel a twenty, and he hands me back four ones. i said,"dude, did you charge me a dollar for that crappy condom?" he told me the price went up recently to $16 bucks for the short time room. after a really nice session, i was hungry; go figure.

i headed to nikki's to get some chow and to apologize to the waitress that i molested last weekend. i ordered the small chicken burrito and the beef quesadilla, both for 20 pesos each. both were enough to fill me up. one of the girls, that i liked, swooped in and took a chair at the bar next to me. but i really wanted to talk to the waitress, but she seemed to back off because of the other girl. i did apologize to the waitress about last week follies, but she said,"no problema."

i made my rounds! stopped in cc and azul was kind of dancing, she seemed a bit tanked; not sure. but i knew as soon as her dance was finished, she would come by and want a drink; wasn't in the mood, so i fled! made my rounds in adelita and there were quite a few hotties in the place. next stop was bt to look for the girl that i liked that i forgot what she looked like. i thought that maybe if i saw her; a drunken memory would appear. no such luck. i did run into the "ball and chain" that was sitting alone, which is unusual. i bought her a few beers and we talked about our wedding plans.

last and final stop was at hk. i ran into pepe and we got a good booth, and then johnny came by to secure the mesero issues. elray came by and wanted to fill me with tequila, but i passed because i wasn't staying the night. the place was pretty busy, but mostly with sausage; i hate later in the evenings on the weekend. but i still end up there for whatever reason.

i noticed my girl i was with from earlier walking around, so i had johnny bring her over. i bought her over and we had a couple of drinks together. it was a nice way to end the evening. but i did get concerned when she kept mentioning the "l" word. usually, in hk, the girls call me "loser" and i'm down with that. but the other "l" word scares the hell out of me. i guess it is time to change out favorites!

[KC Questor]

thanks for the info questor.

a few questions though. did you have to present anything regarding the car to the border patrol when going through the border, either coming or going? besides insurance, are there any fees to pass a car through the border? is insurance required or is that up to the driver? do they take down your car information and give you a limited amount of time until you are required to return the car back into the states?i assume that you aren't talking about a rental car. i don't know anything about those rules.

when i drove into mexico the first time i didn't have additional insurance, no one stopped me at the border going into juarez, and the check returning to the us was cursory. it was just an overnight trip.

my second trip in was three days. i didn't even have to stop when driving into tijuana. they may have noted my license plate with a camera, but i don't really care. there was no fee. the highway to ensenada is a high-speed toll road, but there is also a free road you could take. returning to the us i showed the border patrol my passport. i don't recall any check that the vehicle was mine. but i had my papers ready. no one mentioned any time limit. if you plan to stay longer than 72 hours or drive much past the border you are supposed to get a tourist card called a fmm. if you plan to drive beyond the baja peninsula you need a vehicle permit. this info is available on the state department web site. http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_970.html

it sounds like you are planning something shady with the questions. i just drove over, had a nice weekend, and drove back.

[Phordphan]

Thanks for the info Questor.

A few questions though. Did you have to present anything regarding the car to the border patrol when going through the border, either coming or going? Besides insurance, are there any fees to pass a car through the border? Is insurance required or is that up to the driver? Do they take down your car information and give you a limited amount of time until you are required to return the car back into the states?You don't need anything to drive across the border. However, your US insurance is absolutely no good. You don't have to have MX insurance, but if anything happens, you may be fucked. Also, no rental car agency will allow you to take their cars into MX. Check your contract.

Upon re-entry, the border patrol may ask you to prove it's your car by showing them the registration. It's rare, but it can happen. No fees otherwise.

As you'll be getting your SENTRI shortly, when you're there, ask for a car sticker. You'll have to hang around a bit longer, they'll take a look at your car and make sure there are no hidden compartments, etc, then put a sticker on your windshield. Then you can use the car SENTRI lane and bypass much of the nonsense. Note that ALL passengers in the car MUST have a SENTRI card if you go through the SENTRI lane.

[LickIt LickIt]

You can take rental cars to Mexico from some companies Budget and Enterprise to name two. Two weeks ago I rented an Enterprise in SD' had to stop at Enterprise in Chula Vista to purchase MX insurance $35. In the past I have rented at Budget by the airport and purchased the insurance there.

Do not get stopped without Mexican insurance in Mexico!

QUOTE=Phordphan; 1397851]You don't need anything to drive across the border. However, your US insurance is absolutely no good. You don't have to have MX insurance, but if anything happens, you may be fucked. Also, no rental car agency will allow you to take their cars into MX. Check your contract.

Upon re-entry, the border patrol may ask you to prove it's your car by showing them the registration. It's rare, but it can happen. No fees otherwise.

As you'll be getting your SENTRI shortly, when you're there, ask for a car sticker. You'll have to hang around a bit longer, they'll take a look at your car and make sure there are no hidden compartments, etc, then put a sticker on your windshield. Then you can use the car SENTRI lane and bypass much of the nonsense. Note that ALL passengers in the car MUST have a SENTRI card if you go through the SENTRI lane.[/QUOTE]

[Efjayel]

thanks fjord. you're always good with information.

and no, i don't plan to rent a car and drive it into mexico, will be using my own. it's an old beaten up car so i it shouldn't catch the attention of crooks or mexico's finest.

but just to re-verify, there is no charge or time limit for taking my car into mexico right? cause i googled it and i read somewhere that both where imposed. unless i was reading the wrong thing. what about allowing a friend to drive my car? i think i read somewhere that if the mexican police stops a car with american plates, that the registered owner must be in the car, either as a driver or passenger otherwise they will confirep001e the car. that true? my wingman plans on using my car while i might be busy with a chica.

you're right fjord, i remember mentioning that i didn't add any car info on my sentri application and someone said that i'd have to reapply just to add a car. well i called the sentri place some time back and they told me the same thing, that i could add a car during the interview without having to re-apply. and i will do that. i'm also aware that all passengers on the sentri lane must have sentri as well. i've been researching it and they punish the driver by taking away their sentri card. justifiable i think otherwise i could see it being easily abused. i can't wait to have get my sentri so i could laugh and flip off all the suckers waiting in line as i fly by. the last time i waited in that line, it was for over 4 hours. luckily the weather was rather nice. i can't even imagine the torture it would be to try and pass during the scorching hot summer days.

here's a video on using sentri.

http://nemo.cbp.gov/ofo/sentri_orient.wmv

[KC Questor]

but just to re-verify, there is no charge or time limit for taking my car into mexico right? cause i googled it and i read somewhere that both where imposed. unless i was reading the wrong thing. what about allowing a friend to drive my car? i think i read somewhere that if the mexican police stops a car with american plates, that the registered owner must be in the car, either as a driver or passenger otherwise they will confirep001e the car. that true? my wingman plans on using my car while i might be busy with a chica.reading the state department's page on mexico:

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_970.html


vehicle permits: tourists wishing to travel beyond the border zone with their vehicle must obtain a temporary import permit or risk having their vehicle confirep001ed by mexican customs officials. at present the only exceptions to the requirement are for vehicles traveling in the baja peninsula and those vehicles covered by the “only sonora” program in western sonora.you will be traveling in the baja peninsula.

if you plan to drive outside of the area, you will need to put down a deposit at an banjercito army bank, which you will get back when you leave the country. this is to keep you from selling the vehicle in mexico and avoiding import taxes.

i have no idea on letting your friend drive your car.


i can't wait to have get my sentri so i could laugh and flip off all the suckers waiting in line as i fly by.]

just note that the sentri line doesn't start until you get close to the border. when i waited in line for more than two hours, only the last 15 minutes or so were in an official lane. sure, it means that you get past the checkpoint easily, but you don't get to skip past too many people. sentri wouldn't have saved much time for me, as the cbp guy only took 5 minutes or so with me.

[Phordphan]

Reading the State Department's page on Mexico:

Just note that the SENTRI line doesn't start until you get close to the border. When I waited in line for more than two hours, only the last 15 minutes or so were in an official lane. Sure, it means that you get past the checkpoint easily, but you don't get to skip past too many people. SENTRI wouldn't have saved much time for me, as the CBP guy only took 5 minutes or so with me.Let me get a clarification. If you have your car with a SENTRI sticker, can't you take the same lane that the taxis take to the border? I note that the signs pointing to that lane say SENTRI. Don't you get to travel that lane, and then go into the SENTRI lane up near that pedistrian bridge? Above where the taxi drop-off spot is?

[Sock111]

Let me get a clarification. If you have your car with a SENTRI sticker, can't you take the same lane that the taxis take to the border? I note that the signs pointing to that lane say SENTRI. Don't you get to travel that lane, and then go into the SENTRI lane up near that pedistrian bridge? Above where the taxi drop-off spot is?Yes, you can. No matter how long the border line is, you need to take the path to the SENTRI entrance bypassing all the normal traffic. If you got stuck for 2 hours, you are not in the SENTRI lane.

[Zachary12]

WOW how I wish I found this forum 3 years ago! I was just reading thru the whole tread and all you new guys: Heed The Warnings from the more experienced posters on here! Do not fall into the trap! I did 3 years ago and when it was all said and done I was drained of HUGE amount of money (tens of thousands) and left much more of a chump than when the 'relationship' began. Every last word these posters say is absolutely true. I could go into details but my story is the same as all the others who have fallen into the same trap. One word of advice Do Not see these girls outside of their work place, that's how it all starts.

[HorseTrader]

WOW how I wish I found this forum 3 years ago! I was just reading thru the whole tread and all you new guys: Heed The Warnings from the more experienced posters on here! Do not fall into the trap! I did 3 years ago and when it was all said and done I was drained of HUGE amount of money (tens of thousands) and left much more of a chump than when the 'relationship' began. Every last word these posters say is absolutely true. I could go into details but my story is the same as all the others who have fallen into the same trap. One word of advice Do Not see these girls outside of their work place, that's how it all starts.We would like to hear how you were drained of that much money, perhaps we can learn something from you. Was this a standard case where she played on your emotions and kept needing a few hundred dollars for this or for that? Maybe some sort of legal issue? Or, did you encountered something that we hadn't considered?

[KC Questor]

Yes, you can. No matter how long the border line is, you need to take the path to the SENTRI entrance bypassing all the normal traffic. If you got stuck for 2 hours, you are not in the SENTRI lane.My apologies. I was unaware of this lane. I was with regular traffic until I got to the border. I was directed to pick a lane, several of which were SENTRI, but didn't notice any way to get there without sitting in the same line that I was in.

[Keg]

One word of advice Do Not see these girls outside of their work place, that's how it all starts.Welcome aboard Z12.

May I politely offer a contrarian viewpoint on your word of advice. I've enjoyed seeing club chicas outside of the zona, and not all stories on this board result in tales of woe.

I've heard it said that a smart man learns from his mistakes, but a wise man learns from the mistakes of others. So my thanks to all who post here.

It's certainly valuable and instructive for people to share their negative experiences, but we all bring different expectations and experiences. IMHO, just wanted to offer to others that it's not all bad venturing out.

Cheers, maybe I'll see you in the zona this weekend.

Keg

[FlapJacK]

Well too late already done that. Not sure who all these new guys you are referring to are? I been going to Tijuana 20+ years and on this board I'm guessing 8 or more?

But yea I hear yea. I'm sure most these girls will try to leech every last cent out yea when they can. I am currently seeing a Adelita check outside of the club and so far its been a good deal for me. I am not paying anymore then I would on any other trip. She has not asked for extra money or free stuff yet. Last visit was mostly free for me. I did not pay for the time we spent together. Maybe she has great plans and is working me up?

Guess I will find out if she is a leech eventually. But I will not fall in to that trap. I do limit my trips to once a month and have my budget and stick to that. I understand these chicks are mostly messed up to put themselves into the lives they live and must have many issues in their little noggins. As long as she treats me good I will treat her good and make feel, respected, appreciated and normal.

Until I get uncomfortable with seeing her or one of us gets tired of the other I will probably continue meeting her out of the club. Its more relaxing, not rushed, Away from all the people and noise around the clubs.

To each his own I guess, I'm sure many guys have had bad experience. I will keep my guard up.


WOW how I wish I found this forum 3 years ago! I was just reading thru the whole tread and all you new guys: Heed The Warnings from the more experienced posters on here! Do not fall into the trap! I did 3 years ago and when it was all said and done I was drained of HUGE amount of money (tens of thousands) and left much more of a chump than when the 'relationship' began. Every last word these posters say is absolutely true. I could go into details but my story is the same as all the others who have fallen into the same trap. One word of advice Do Not see these girls outside of their work place, that's how it all starts.

[Zachary12]

We would like to hear how you were drained of that much money, perhaps we can learn something from you. Was this a standard case where she played on your emotions and kept needing a few hundred dollars for this or for that? Maybe some sort of legal issue? Or, did you encountered something that we hadn't considered?No, pretty much the standard play (which I know now). When I read this quote on page 75 from poster JoeArturo I realized I got played by the book.

"They start out including you with their family to make you feel special. The next thing you know you are supporting her so that she will only be with you. The fact is that she will only be with you when you are in Tijuana. She will not give up her other clients when you are not there. Some family member will have an emergency sickness and she will have to send money to them somewhere else in Mexico. She will need a flatscreen TV or a car or a boob job or something else that is real expensive."

As for referring to the new guys, when I was going thru the tread I saw a couple of guys that seemed to be falling down that rabbit hole despite the advice given by the experienced. I didn't see that those posts are from many months ago, so damage may have already been done.

And on the topic of seeing these women outside of their workplace: This really depends on your constitution as a person, someone who is inexperienced or an easy target for these women may be falling into their trap. My advice is from my personal experience.

Anyway in my next post I will share my more than 2 year long experience with one of these brujas. It is pitiful, but where else could one share such a story eh.

[SeanBig]

Sucker from page 75 is still here.

I'm sure I'll be back to post my sob story in a couple of years

[HorseTrader]

No, pretty much the standard play (which I know now). When I read this quote on page 75 from poster JoeArturo I realized I got played by the book.Over years of mongering I've built up a bit of an immunity to the charms of even the sexiest and most charming hookers. Things became easier for me when I realized that strange ass is my preferance and it gets less strange starting after about the 2nd trip arriba. By about the 5th fuck I'd prefer to be with my regular girlfriend. It has been years since I gave more than about $400 to a single girl.

Sometimes the girls start a play for me (or my money) and I will spend time with them outside of the zona, but I keep that within reasons. Just last month a spent 2 afternoons with one of the HK girls and it seemed like she was starting a major play for me, but she just disappeared and I haven't seen her since the 2nd afternoon. I think I gave her $80 twice at HK and $100 for each afternoon. Perhaps she wouldn't have disappeard if I gave her more money than that. That was the perfect relationship that ended perfectly and only cost $360 (plus my hotel costs and about $50 of food for both of us).

[HorseTrader]

Interesting. Take a look at HK thread. Recently Guitarfreak and I were talking about HK chica named Isabel / Isabella. Are we all talking about the same gal? HorseTrader, how deep is your relationship with her? LOL I want to try her out next time, but I do not want to crash into you with her. You know what I mean. Care you explain what / how she is like overall?Sorry I missed this post from 2 weeks ago. The physical description of my Isabel sounds similar to the one you and Guiterfreak described. But, mine was not the smiling / laughing type that guitar described. And, she had only one tatoo, that being of a flower (?) on one of her ankles. I don't think it is the same girl.

If you find my Isabel, I recommend her to mongers who like the sweet girl next door type of personality. She acts more like a real girlfriend than a red hot lover.

I wouldn't ever worry about crashing into another monger with one of these girls. Everybody knows why we are there and it is a first come first served business. I won't worry about taking your favorite upstairs, but you are welcome to her after I drop her off at the bar.

[MrSimple]

Sorry I missed this post from 2 weeks ago. The physical description of my Isabel sounds similar to the one you and Guiterfreak described. But, mine was not the smiling / laughing type that guitar described. And, she had only one tatoo, that being of a flower (?) on one of her ankles. I don't think it is the same girl.

If you find my Isabel, I recommend her to mongers who like the sweet girl next door type of personality. She acts more like a real girlfriend than a red hot lover.

I wouldn't ever worry about crashing into another monger with one of these girls. Everybody knows why we are there and it is a first come first served business. I won't worry about taking your favorite upstairs, but you are welcome to her after I drop her off at the bar.You mean, after a couple of other men drop her off at the bar before you do? LOL.

The Isabel I know has definitely more than one tattoo; two on upper back, one on the thigh. But she is also girl-next-door type. I will have to see which other Isabel there is, when I get back to HK some time.

Do you have any other recommendations? I like short, B or C natural, slim, non-clockwatching gals. But I am up for any suggestions. Thanks.

Have fun and keep it simple, gentlemen.

[FlapJacK]

I think this song fits these girls and our situations pretty good haha.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-3TZiyY9Sk


Over years of mongering I've built up a bit of an immunity to the charms of even the sexiest and most charming hookers. Things became easier for me when I realized that strange ass is my preferance and it gets less strange starting after about the 2nd trip arriba. By about the 5th fuck I'd prefer to be with my regular girlfriend. It has been years since I gave more than about $400 to a single girl.

Sometimes the girls start a play for me (or my money) and I will spend time with them outside of the zona, but I keep that within reasons. Just last month a spent 2 afternoons with one of the HK girls and it seemed like she was starting a major play for me, but she just disappeared and I haven't seen her since the 2nd afternoon. I think I gave her $80 twice at HK and $100 for each afternoon. Perhaps she wouldn't have disappeard if I gave her more money than that. That was the perfect relationship that ended perfectly and only cost $360 (plus my hotel costs and about $50 of food for both of us).

[Conejito]

Parked near border behind jack in the box. It's now $7 for 12 hours.

As I got near the mexican entry gate. 5 of the US border patrol put their dogs on me. WTF! Then when I got into Tijuana the first thing I saw was a HUGE line of people waiting to re-enter the USA. Sorry guys but something is just not right about this.

the city seemed very active, more than i've seen lately, with people and police running all over the place.

Did adelitas, chicago club, las chavelas and bar tropical.

I must say chavelas had a lot of nice looking ladies that day, more than I've seen before. Still mostly mexican clients with spanish music of course. Check it out, not all of them are fat.

Bar tropical, waiters were very aggressive as I had drinks with a girl. They must be under orders to drink faster. The guy was almost stalking us, I am not kidding you.

Adelitas. A nice mix of all kinds of girls was there. I was talking to a young, thin, petite dark-haired girl with a small piercing near her mouth, age 20 (kelly, if I recall) - black dress, not gothic style girl but close. near the men's room. She acted quiet from the start, and finally when I talked about going upstairs, she said "yo cobro $70" ('I charge $70). Not negotiable although I tried. So she just got up and left. Later, a real nice lady named 'magali' (25-30 y/o) , dark hair, not fat, normal type clothes, friendly. I recommend! on the other side from the men's room.

Chicago was not very busy. Still too dark in there and hard to see the ladies, of which there were not many.

Eventually came back to the border, taxis are now leaving you at what seems to be a mile away from the gate, and it is very dark too. It's safe, just confusing and not so pleasant.

[GolfSexRroll]

I think this song fits these girls and our situations pretty good haha.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-3TZiyY9SkYes. Great song (brings back memories) I. M suprised I still have BRAIN cells to remember it! But it sure does fit!

[Keg]

The border crossing wait lines were a real buzz kill.

Went in to the zona early evening Saturday, wanted to have some fun and leave relatively early.

Got dropped off by a yellow cab at la linea at 1am, the line to cross was ridiculous. Normally it's just a walk through about that time.

It took 2 hours and 15 minutes. Buzz kill.

[Efjayel]

Yes, you can. No matter how long the border line is, you need to take the path to the SENTRI entrance bypassing all the normal traffic. If you got stuck for 2 hours, you are not in the SENTRI lane.Care to tell me the directions to get into the SENTRI lane? I figure with my bad sense of direction I'll somehow end up like the other guy in the wrong lane and stuck for hours.

[HorseTrader]

Do you have any other recommendations? I like short, B or C natural, slim, non-clockwatching gals. But I am up for any suggestions. Thanks.I don't know who is still around, I have two good recommendations from the last week of February and the first week of March.

First was Vickie. Probably 5'0" and 95 or 100 pounds with A or B cups. Straight hair to the top of her shoulders, bangs cut straight across and well below the eyebrows. Young, perhaps 18 to 21 years old. Large tatoo on the right shoulder blade; I don't remember any other tatoos. Vickie was a very nice girl next door type and easy to talk to. Exeptional English for an HK girl and very intelligent. I had a very long and enjoyable Cascadas session with her, something between 1. 5 and 2 hours long.

Second was Elsie. Probably 5'2" and 110 pounds. Perhaps 22 or 23 years old. Straight hair all the same length hanging to about 4" below the tops of her shoulders. Large tatoo on her upper left thigh, there were other tatoos but I don't remember the details. I almost didn't take her arriba because I don't like bolt-ons and her C-size natural tits are unusual on a thin girl. But in the room I found them to be natural and perfect. Her English is marginal, but good enough to satisfy all my needs. I think we spent about 40 or 45 minutes in the room, including shower time. After our trip to Cascadas I bought her another drink in HK, where she demonstrated her English skills by referring to me as "my love." I interpreted that as "I will pretend to be your girlfriend as long as you keep moving money from your wallet into my purse." Interesting, she didn't leave me after she finished her last drink, even though several waiters kept pushing drinks and trying to bring her to other customers. She finally left when someone wearing a "coordinator" tag came over and took her away by the hand.

Both of these girls were daytime girls and were both very good in the room. I will be happy to repeat with either, should I ever see them again.

[The Hammer1169]

I don't know who is still around, I have two good recommendations from the last week of February and the first week of March.

First was Vickie. Probably 5'0" and 95 or 100 pounds with A or B cups. Straight hair to the top of her shoulders, bangs cut straight across and well below the eyebrows. Young, perhaps 18 to 21 years old. Large tatoo on the right shoulder blade; I don't remember any other tatoos. Vickie was a very nice girl next door type and easy to talk to. Exeptional English for an HK girl and very intelligent. I had a very long and enjoyable Cascadas session with her, something between 1. 5 and 2 hours long.

Second was Elsie. Probably 5'2" and 110 pounds. Perhaps 22 or 23 years old. Straight hair all the same length hanging to about 4" below the tops of her shoulders. Large tatoo on her upper left thigh, there were other tatoos but I don't remember the details. I almost didn't take her arriba because I don't like bolt-ons and her C-size natural tits are unusual on a thin girl. But in the room I found them to be natural and perfect. Her English is marginal, but good enough to satisfy all my needs. I think we spent about 40 or 45 minutes in the room, including shower time. After our trip to Cascadas I bought her another drink in HK, where she demonstrated her English skills by referring to me as "my love." I interpreted that as "I will pretend to be your girlfriend as long as you keep moving money from your wallet into my purse." Interesting, she didn't leave me after she finished her last drink, even though several waiters kept pushing drinks and trying to bring her to other customers. She finally left when someone wearing a "coordinator" tag came over and took her away by the hand.

Both of these girls were daytime girls and were both very good in the room. I will be happy to repeat with either, should I ever see them again.When the girls hang out like that they just don't feel like working. I have had many in the past who would tuck in a booth with me and sit the night out. I had one lay her head in my lap and sleep while I got drunk. By the way; after a couple of ours a manager came and drug her to a table dance in front of a bunch of drunks. They don't like the girls sitting around, because most clubs pay a salary on top of FS and fischas. Many girls are happy with the salary when they are tired, but the clubs keep them working for it.

[Dave1027]

I am going to be traveling to Tijuana next Friday for 4 nights. I am going to be staying on the US side in San Diego. Can someone.

Tell me wait time walking across the border. I usually go to Tijuana around 2:00pm in the afternoon and than cross back to US around 6:00pm and head back out.

At 9:00pm and return around 2:00am. Can someone tell me approx. Wait times.

Thanks,

Dave

[Conejito]

The border crossing wait lines were a real buzz kill.

Went in to the zona early evening Saturday, wanted to have some fun and leave relatively early.

Got dropped off by a yellow cab at la linea at 1am, the line to cross was ridiculous. Normally it's just a walk through about that time.

It took 2 hours and 15 minutes. Buzz kill.Yes. As per my report above, I believe the US agents are now searching us on the way OUT of the USA, and putting their dogs on us before we enter mexico. Seriously there were 5 agents just standing there with dogs, while on the entry side was a massive jam of people exactly as you said. Americans are being treated badly.

[Sock111]

Care to tell me the directions to get into the SENTRI lane? I figure with my bad sense of direction I'll somehow end up like the other guy in the wrong lane and stuck for hours.Sure, watch this very informative video on how to get to the sentri lane. There is also one on how to get to the ready lane. It's a common problem.

http://www.bajabound.com/before/driving/directions/tijuana_sentri_lane.php

[Efjayel]

Nice, thanks!

Whats a ready lane?

[Conejito]

I am going to be traveling to Tijuana next Friday for 4 nights. I am going to be staying on the US side in San Diego. Can someone.

Tell me wait time walking across the border. I usually go to Tijuana around 2:00pm in the afternoon and than cross back to US around 6:00pm and head back out.

At 9:00pm and return around 2:00am. Can someone tell me approx. Wait times.

Thanks,

DaveDave if you plan to walk back into the USA at 2 AM, that is some risk for hitting a big line. I would say 1:30 at latest you will be ok. At least make sure it is no later than 2. The mexicans get up way early for school and work, and the american agents have been incredibly slow or just not there at the entry.

[LickIt LickIt]

There are several cell phone apps that will give you approximate wait times. I used "Best Time To Cross The Border" on my Android. Worked well.

[HorseTrader]

About 2 years ago there was some discussion related to parking and crossing at Otay Mesa instead of Tijuana. People wrote that the cab to Zona Norte was about $18 each way. Assuming $5 each way from the Tijuana crossing, the round trip cabs from Otay Mesa would run an extra $26.

The appeal of the Otay Mesa crossing would be to avoid long wait times that we sometimes see at the Tijuana crossing. Over the last few days I've been checking the on-line posted crossing wait times; Otay Mesa is consistently 30 minutes or less while the Tijuana crossing is up around 2 hours or longer.

The extra $26 doesn't concern me. But, when you consider the extra taxi time and headaches, does parking and crossing at Otay Mesa really save any time and stress?

I realize that the Sentri card would save me time and stress. But, there I reasons that I don't want to have a Sentri card.

[Sound7]

SENTRI Interview Risk Factors Are Unkown but the risk of lossing US citizenship is real. One has to guard ones citizenship if it means stop crossing international borders including Tijuana.

SENTRI interviews are open ended interview to say the least. Be prepared to be interviewed about personal matters in various format in a public space. I can understand the stress this puts on the applicants and some do bring personal advocate for the interview.

I would not be surprised by the high rejection rate for SENTRI applicants now under the current political environment regarding border issues. Having said thet personal attitude will be the key factors.

Good luck to all the Sentri applicants.

Unkown Risk Factors: Goverment and private agency data base not avialable to the general public.

Bus is 10 peso to Otay with a short walk.


About 2 years ago there was some discussion related to parking and crossing at Otay Mesa instead of Tijuana. People wrote that the cab to Zona Norte was about $18 each way. Assuming $5 each way from the Tijuana crossing, the round trip cabs from Otay Mesa would run an extra $26.

The appeal of the Otay Mesa crossing would be to avoid long wait times that we sometimes see at the Tijuana crossing. Over the last few days I've been checking the on-line posted crossing wait times; Otay Mesa is consistently 30 minutes or less while the Tijuana crossing is up around 2 hours or longer.

The extra $26 doesn't concern me. But, when you consider the extra taxi time and headaches, does parking and crossing at Otay Mesa really save any time and stress?

I realize that the Sentri card would save me time and stress. But, there I reasons that I don't want to have a Sentri card.

[Efjayel]

But, there I reasons that I don't want to have a Sentri card.What is it, the convenience, the comfort, the time saved?

[SBeach25]

SENTRI Interview Risk Factors Are Unkown but the risk of lossing US citizenship is real. One has to guard ones citizenship if it means stop crossing international borders including Tijuana.

SENTRI interviews are open ended interview to say the least. Be prepared to be interviewed about personal matters in various format in a public space. I can understand the stress this puts on the applicants and some do bring personal advocate for the interview.

I would not be surprised by the high rejection rate for SENTRI applicants now under the current political environment regarding border issues. Having said thet personal attitude will be the key factors.

Good luck to all the Sentri applicants.

Unkown Risk Factors: Goverment and private agency data base not avialable to the general public.

Bus is 10 peso to Otay with a short walk.I'm nbt sure what others felt and had to go through but mine was fairly easy. Of course there is a database that is not open to the public this is a given. These database contains criminal records and other records that you may have. From my experience, the questions asked were pretty much what I had put on the application. All the questions were about my employment, addresses and the only thing different was if someone asked me to apply for them. Seems to me they just wanted to confirm if I was the actual person applying for the pass. I was in and out of the place in 15 minutes.

[HorseTrader]

What is it, the convenience, the comfort, the time saved?I don't want to have a Sentri card simply because I don't want to risk a friend, relative, or business associate seeing this card. Since mongering is my only business in Mexico, it would be hard to explain why I have it.

Another thing is scheduling of the interview. I live on the east coast, but make frequent sales trips to San Diego. These trips are of inflexible schedule so I can't schedule one to coincide with the Sentri interview.

[Efjayel]

I'm nbt sure what others felt and had to go through but mine was fairly easy. Of course there is a database that is not open to the public this is a given. These database contains criminal records and other records that you may have. From my experience, the questions asked were pretty much what I had put on the application. All the questions were about my employment, addresses and the only thing different was if someone asked me to apply for them. Seems to me they just wanted to confirm if I was the actual person applying for the pass. I was in and out of the place in 15 minutes.How long did you wait until you where interviewed? I have nothing to worry about the non public database as I have a record as clean as a whistle.

Are you a Citizen? I'm not. So I figure I'll get the third degree. Haven't decided yet on how to answer when asked why I want a SENTRI pass. I'm still deciding if I should say it's to stay in touch with family. I'm just worried if they ask me where they live since I don't actually have any family in Tijuana. I was also thinking about saying it's to meet with my girlfriend / fiance. But then they might start asking questions about that, which I don't have either. How do you guys think I should answer?

[Phordphan]

How long did you wait until you where interviewed? I have nothing to worry about the non public database as I have a record as clean as a whistle.

Are you a Citizen? I'm not. So I figure I'll get the third degree. Haven't decided yet on how to answer when asked why I want a SENTRI pass. I'm still deciding if I should say it's to stay in touch with family. I'm just worried if they ask me where they live since I don't actually have any family in Tijuana. I was also thinking about saying it's to meet with my girlfriend / fiance. But then they might start asking questions about that, which I don't have either. How do you guys think I should answer?1. You go down to see friends, relatives, acquaintances, etc. If they ask, your relatives visit Tijuana from time to time, and you like to visit them while they're so close to SD. But they won't ask.

2. You are sick of the long lines and don't come often because of them.

3. You do not conduct commercial business in MX.

It's not illegal to visit MX. It's not illegal to visit the zona while in MX. They are trying to determine if you're a drug / alien smuggler. Don't sweat it.

[Phordphan]

SENTRI Interview Risk Factors Are Unkown but the risk of lossing US citizenship is real. One has to guard ones citizenship if it means stop crossing international borders including Tijuana.

SENTRI interviews are open ended interview to say the least. Be prepared to be interviewed about personal matters in various format in a public space. I can understand the stress this puts on the applicants and some do bring personal advocate for the interview.

I would not be surprised by the high rejection rate for SENTRI applicants now under the current political environment regarding border issues. Having said thet personal attitude will be the key factors.

Good luck to all the Sentri applicants.

Unkown Risk Factors: Goverment and private agency data base not avialable to the general public.

Bus is 10 peso to Otay with a short walk.Hogwash.

Tell us about your SENTRI interview.

[JPF]

Haven't decided yet on how to answer when asked why I want a SENTRI pass. I'm still deciding if I should say it's to stay in touch with family. I'm just worried if they ask me where they live since I don't actually have any family in Tijuana. I was also thinking about saying it's to meet with my girlfriend / fiance. But then they might start asking questions about that, which I don't have either. How do you guys think I should answer?I would recommend telling the truth. They are looking for people who act suspicious and have something to hide. If you start telling some made up story you will be more stressed trying to keep your details straight and that could trigger a longer, more serious interview.

When I had my interview it went very smoothly and I got the impression that they didn't care why I wanted the SENTRI card, there was no wrong answer. There is nothing wrong with saying you like to go to the bars.

[Artisttyp]

it's a rather simple process if you have a clean record. to my surprise my 2 summons from my past weren't an issue with getting my card. why? i don't know but they did show up on the screen during the interview.

the interview is given by a customs officer in uniform so be prepared to sit down with a cop. dress nicely and have good hygiene. remember you are presenting yourself as a model citizen. he will look on the screen and ask you a few of the same questions that you already answered on your application. he also asked me what my father did for a living and where my mother was born. he did question me about the summons i received but i told him i that i was young and dumb at the time.

also if you have ever been stopped or had something confirep001ed from you at customs then you must declare this during the interview and application. ie. if you came back from mexico with a head of lettuce in your luggage or a half eaten sandwhich be honest. i tried to bring a questionable item in as an "art piece" but they didn't buy it. i did declare it though so no big deal. also no big deal at the sentri interview because i was honest.

mexican americans will have a tougher time getting sentri imo. if you have family members that have gotten in trouble you probably stand a chance at not meeting requirements. proving that you make a decent income is an issue imo. a guy collecting unemployment with a sentri pass could lead to questionable activity.

just look at your situation from the customs perspective and be realistic. be advised though that this a geared as a privileged program to those that generate a very low risk to the govt. this is determined by the man and you have absolutely no say in the process. you apply and have the interview. imo if you make the interview process you are good. dress nicely. if your application takes way too long to be processed that is probably imo a bad sign.

good luck gentlemen.

[Efjayel]

my application process was rather quick. i was approved immediately. like within the month. the appointment is what is taking so long. minimum of 3 months for the earliest appointment. as for customs, i've never had anything confirep001ed or even had to declare anything since i never bring anything back. i guess my only worry is my relatives. mostly my dad as he's had a lot of legal troubles in the past even as far as identity theft. hopefully his past doesn't come back to haunt me as i don't relate myself to him. we rarely ever talk. would be pretty unfair though to be denied because of his mistakes since i have a very clean record. i've had a full background customs inspection in the past because of work and was also considered a low risk civilian unlike some of my co-workers who took very long in the application process. some where even called in for an interview to "discuss" gray areas of their past. my application then was also quick and required no interview. i plan to bring that up at the sentri interview.

i do not plan on telling the truth as far as why i want a sentri. if they ask i will go with fjord's suggestion of visiting family and relatives and of course the food. because honestly, you can't get food in the states like how it's made in tijuana. i will never mention bars, drinking, prostitutes or anything of that nature. as far as they are concerned, i am not even aware those places exist. wish me luck.

again, for those of you who already did the interview, how long after your scheduled appointment where you finally done and out the door?

[SBeach25]

How long did you wait until you where interviewed? I have nothing to worry about the non public database as I have a record as clean as a whistle.

Are you a Citizen? I'm not. So I figure I'll get the third degree. Haven't decided yet on how to answer when asked why I want a SENTRI pass. I'm still deciding if I should say it's to stay in touch with family. I'm just worried if they ask me where they live since I don't actually have any family in Tijuana. I was also thinking about saying it's to meet with my girlfriend / fiance. But then they might start asking questions about that, which I don't have either. How do you guys think I should answer?Yes, I am a citizen. When they asked why I wanted one, I told them the damn line is too long and the wait is crazy. Convenience was my anwer. It was really faster than I thought. 2 weeks after submission. Was a 2 month wait but all I did was keep checking to see if there was any cancellations. Could've been 1 month total but I couldn't make the appointment last minute. If you keep checking online, you can see what opens up due to cancellations.

[Phordphan]

Again, for those of you who already did the interview, how long after your scheduled appointment where you finally done and out the door?My wait was 2 or 3 months. I showed up about 15 minutes early for my appointment and the place was packed. Oh, BTW, they were taking walk-ins. I had to wait about 30 minutes before my name was called. Maybe a bit less.

They guy who interviewed me was named Lawless. Great name, huh? Wanted to know why I wanted the card. I told him the lines were stupid long, I used to come down occasionally to drink beer with a friend, etc, but had to stop because of the line. He also wanted to know if I did business in MX, which I don't. He made a huge point about employment. Wanted to see pay stubs. The instructions specifically state pay stubs or a tax return. So, it was easier for me to print off the Gutenberg Bible of my corporate tax return than to try to gen up "pay stubs" which don't really exist, as it's all electronic now. Anyway, he kept saying there was no evidence that I was employed as of the date I was there. I finally got a bit testy and pointed out that I had brought everything they required, to the letter. If the needed pay stubs only, they should have said so. He just looked at his screen for a while, then got friendly and said he figured they had enough info, and approved me.

He was also interested in criminal history of family members, and wanted to know if any of my friends were criminals.

Anyway, start to finish of interview was maybe another 15. 20 minutes. At one point they asked if I wanted a SENTRI sticker for my car. I ponied up the extra $$. Then I had to wait in another short line to pay, then waited outside for 15 minutes, or so, for the guy to come and inspect the car.

So, beginning to end was in the range of an hour or so.

[Efjayel]

Awesome Fjord, you're always so helpful and detailed.

It was crowded? So there is a whole bunch of people applying for SENTRI? I don't know why but I imagined the place to be quite dead since not many people know about SENTRI and how to apply for it. If they allow walk ins, then whats the point of setting up an appointment?

I'll do both, bring pay stubs and tax records just to be thorough.

I'm guessing that they ask you about family member's criminal history to see if you are truthful about it right? I'm not sure about my fathers criminal past besides knowing that he has one. I don't have criminal friends or even any close friends at that. Mostly everyone I know would only fit the bill of sporadic acquaintance.

Is there another fee besides the car fee during the interview? It's been so long since I did the application that I can't recall if I already payed all fees or if there is another fee at the interview. And can you pay in credit card or only cash?

Sbeach,

Obviously I want a SENTRI card to avoid the lines and have the convenience of crossing quickly. The question I am concerned about is when they ask me what I will be doing in Mexico, specially since I am originally from Mexico and don't have citizenship. They might think I'm trying to smuggle in family members or something.

[Jendabaze]

[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1400357]My wait was 2 or 3 months.

I'm leaving on a month trip next week. Is it a good idea to apply for a Sentri card before I leave or should I wait until I come back from my trip?

Do they respond to the application right away like wanting a finger print or does it take more than a month for any response?

Last Saturday I waited in line from 3:20am to 5:20am, and what made it worse was all those A-holes who were cutting in. I told myself never again I'm going without a Sentri card.

Thank you in advance for any response.

[Purple Helmet]

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2221-General-Reports/page38

PH

[Phordphan]

Awesome Fjord, you're always so helpful and detailed.

It was crowded? So there is a whole bunch of people applying for SENTRI? I don't know why but I imagined the place to be quite dead since not many people know about SENTRI and how to apply for it. If they allow walk ins, then whats the point of setting up an appointment?

I'll do both, bring pay stubs and tax records just to be thorough.

I'm guessing that they ask you about family member's criminal history to see if you are truthful about it right? I'm not sure about my fathers criminal past besides knowing that he has one. I don't have criminal friends or even any close friends at that. Mostly everyone I know would only fit the bill of sporadic acquaintance.

Is there another fee besides the car fee during the interview? It's been so long since I did the application that I can't recall if I already payed all fees or if there is another fee at the interview. And can you pay in credit card or only cash?

Sbeach,

Obviously I want a SENTRI card to avoid the lines and have the convenience of crossing quickly. The question I am concerned about is when they ask me what I will be doing in Mexico, specially since I am originally from Mexico and don't have citizenship. They might think I'm trying to smuggle in family members or something.Not everybody was there for SENTRI. Many were, but it reminded me a bit of the DMV. Lots of different things going on.

Yes, they seemed to already have the answers to a lot of the questions they asked. Don't volunteer any info, just answer. If they didn't already like you, they would have already rejected your application.

You should have already paid for the application. The only other thing to pay is the car fee. Yes they take credit cards.

[Monolith]

[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1400357]My wait was 2 or 3 months.

I'm leaving on a month trip next week. Is it a good idea to apply for a Sentri card before I leave or should I wait until I come back from my trip?

Do they respond to the application right away like wanting a finger print or does it take more than a month for any response?

Last Saturday I waited in line from 3:20am to 5:20am, and what made it worse was all those A-holes who were cutting in. I told myself never again I'm going without a Sentri card.

Thank you in advance for any response.Apply as soon as you can. Don't worry you'll be fine because the wait time for pending approval is about 2. 3 months. Even after that. You can schedule your date to come in for the interview process.

[JPF]

You should have already paid for the application. The only other thing to pay is the car fee. Yes they take credit cards.Even if you don't get a tag for your car you have to pay the SENTRI fee after your interview (if you pass). I think it was around $120. When you apply the application fee ($25?) is just for the processing of your application.

After waiting a couple of months for my interview when I got there they said that their computer program was down so they couldn't tell who had appointments so it was first come first serve. Although the place was packed I waited only about 20 minutes for my interview (that's after waiting about 10 minutes in the line at the door to get to talk to a person). Most of the people there were not waiting for SENTRI interviews. So I would recommend just doing the walkin when you have some time to spare.

[Phordphan]

Even if you don't get a tag for your car you have to pay the SENTRI fee after your interview (if you pass). I think it was around $120. When you apply the application fee ($25?) is just for the processing of your application.

After waiting a couple of months for my interview when I got there they said that their computer program was down so they couldn't tell who had appointments so it was first come first serve. Although the place was packed I waited only about 20 minutes for my interview (that's after waiting about 10 minutes in the line at the door to get to talk to a person). Most of the people there were not waiting for SENTRI interviews. So I would recommend just doing the walkin when you have some time to spare.Ahh, you're absolutely right. Memory was a bit fuzzy. I remember paying something online, but it was, in fact, the $25 fee. They wanted a credit card for the balance after the interview. Plus the car fee.

[Efjayel]

Thanks for the info guys. So after the interview, I guess I should expect to pay about $200 including car fee. Bah!

[Baxter Slade]

Anybody have any info on a clean decent hotel in Ensenada. Also best way to travel down there if we don't take the car.

Hey GSR you up for a double date with your Novia in Ensenada Tommorow?

[Reinaldo]

Can't help you with the hotel since it's been years since I've been there. Easiest way to get there is to take a bus from the small ABC terminal located in Plaza Viva Tijuana which is where McDonalds and the pharmacies are located close to the border.


Anybody have any info on a clean decent hotel in Ensenada. Also best way to travel down there if we don't take the car.

[GolfSexRroll]

Anybody have any info on a clean decent hotel in Ensenada. Also best way to travel down there if we don't take the car.

Hey GSR you up for a double date with your Novia in Ensenada Tommorow?That sounds like a great idea but I have been having trouble getting ahold of my "novia". I don't think she paid her shitty Oxxo phone bill. (she is working her Salon part time job early Sunday) so I'll have to pass. Have a good time and report back!

[Guitarrefreak]

Estacion de autobuses right next to the mc donald's in san ysidro, probably around 150 pesos for you to go down, different price by different companies.

The station is a bit far out in ensenada, but head west of the bus station along the main road and you should be able to hit the malecon, there are some decent motels near the waterfront, ranging from 220 pesos per night to 700+ depending on your budget.


Anybody have any info on a clean decent hotel in Ensenada. Also best way to travel down there if we don't take the car.

Hey GSR you up for a double date with your Novia in Ensenada Tommorow?

[GolfSexRroll]

Anybody have any info on a clean decent hotel in Ensenada. Also best way to travel down there if we don't take the car.

Hey GSR you up for a double date with your Novia in Ensenada Tommorow?Well I finally got ahold of my novia- She left her phone home- ayer! Oh well these chicas are CRAZY! If I ever get really serious with her (just shoot me!). She still has to work at her legit job in the morning / afternoon so I won"t see her till tarde. Thanks for the offer and have a good time!

[Baxter Slade]

Estacion de autobuses right next to the mc donald's in san ysidro, probably around 150 pesos for you to go down, different price by different companies.

The station is a bit far out in ensenada, but head west of the bus station along the main road and you should be able to hit the malecon, there are some decent motels near the waterfront, ranging from 220 pesos per night to 700+ depending on your budget.Looking for a room around 35 to 55 USA Do they have any love motels in Ensenada. I love the rooms at LaMansion I think the rooms are nicer than Ticuan.

[Artisttyp]

Looking for a room around 35 to 55 USA Do they have any love motels in Ensenada. I love the rooms at LaMansion I think the rooms are nicer than Ticuan.You might want to check a few Baja Expat forums not related to mongering. I'm sure they have some listed.

[Guitarrefreak]

Looking for a room around 35 to 55 USA Do they have any love motels in Ensenada. I love the rooms at LaMansion I think the rooms are nicer than Ticuan.I think artistyp pointed you a better place to look but as I recall, while I was there, there were no "nice love motels" near the malecon area, there were regular motels. And you can hear moaning maybe every hour, probably same working girl.

Then there are some of the classier ones near the pier where tourists board the cruises

[Orca Ray]

[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1400357]My wait was 2 or 3 months.

I'm leaving on a month trip next week. Is it a good idea to apply for a Sentri card before I leave or should I wait until I come back from my trip?

Do they respond to the application right away like wanting a finger print or does it take more than a month for any response?

Last Saturday I waited in line from 3:20am to 5:20am, and what made it worse was all those A-holes who were cutting in. I told myself never again I'm going without a Sentri card.

Thank you in advance for any response.What are the hours for "SENTRI"? (6:00 a. M. To 10:30 p. M?)

What good is SENTRI if it's closed by the time you return to the USA?

[Efjayel]

[QUOTE=Jendabaze; 1400474]What are the hours for "SENTRI"? (6:00 am To 10:30 p. M?)

What good is SENTRI if it's closed by the time you return to the USA?See attached pic. Don't quote me on it though.

[Phordphan]

[QUOTE=Jendabaze; 1400474]What are the hours for "SENTRI"? (6:00 am To 10:30 p. M?)

What good is SENTRI if it's closed by the time you return to the USA?Theoretically, after 10:30 there is only a very short line, so it's not needed.

If you only reenter the USA after 10:30pm, then the SENTRI is a waste.

[JPF]

[QUOTE=Orca Ray; 1402276]See attached pic. Don't quote me on it though.You can quote me. SENTRI is now technically 24 hours a day: http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/toolbox/contacts/ports/ca/2504.xml

However, as phordphan points out there are times later at night when it is not needed. I went through at 12:30 last Thursday (technically Friday morning) and the SENTRI line was open but there was no agent there. I moved across the front of a couple of lines and went to the first available agent and used my SENTRI card with no problem.

[Orca Ray]

[QUOTE=Efjayel; 1402398]You can quote me. SENTRI is now technically 24 hours a day:

http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/toolbox/contacts/ports/ca/2504.xml

However, as phordphan points out there are times later at night when it is not needed. I went through at 12:30 last Thursday (technically Friday morning) and the SENTRI line was open but there was no agent there. I moved across the front of a couple of lines and went to the first available agent and used my SENTRI card with no problem.My concerns is for the "Pedestrian" SENTRI lanes. I heard that Friday, Saturday & Sunday nights may have long lines coming back after 10:30 pm (Last December, when I crossed back into San Ysidro at 11:00 pm, SENTRI was closed for the night).

Thanks for the info. Will see what happens this weekend.

[GolfSexRroll]

[QUOTE=JPF; 1402689]My concerns is for the "Pedestrian" SENTRI lanes. I heard that Friday, Saturday & Sunday nights may have long lines coming back after 10:30 pm (Last December, when I crossed back into San Ysidro at 11:00 pm, SENTRI was closed for the night).

Thanks for the info. Will see what happens this weekend.The sentry Booth was open with a CBP agent at 11:30pm Sunday night. There wasn't many takers and they were accepting regular line ups to go there.

[Baxter Slade]

Although this report pertains to Ensenada, the purpose is to provide info for any Tijuana guys who are foolish enough to want to try to establish a relationship with a prostituta. It is a great little place for a 1 or 2 day getaway.

Sunday morning I met my MBGF at 8th and Rev, she was on time and I was running a bit late. I think we may have discovered the cheapest way to get to Ensenada. First we caught a yellow and white shared taxi van in Centro. Price was 1. 50 US each to get us to the 7-11 in Rosarito. The driver told us to wait there and a luxury bus would be stopping there and that would take us to Ensenada. After about 15 minutes a bus came along and picked us up the cost was $6. 50 per person. The ride took about an hour, it is a beautiful drive between Rosarito and Ensenada it reminded me of my favorite scenic area around Big Sur. Your riding up on bluffs looking down on the ocean.

After about an hour on the bus we arrived at a bus station in Ensenada. We took a cab for $5 its a short ride, about 12 blocks to the tourist area. The taxis do seem to be a bit over priced compared to Tijuana. We decided to explore and find a hotel before we did anything else. We found the Hotel San Tomas the cost for the room was $41 for 2 people. The room was not great, but the location and the price was perfect. The cab driver had tried to sell us on the idea of going to La Bufadora, the cost $41 roundtrip, and he would wait there for an hour while we looked around.

The day was starting to get away it was already around 2:30. We decided to go to Bufadora but shopped around for another taxi, we found one old guy who said $40 dollars no time limit if we wanted to stay 1 or 2 hours no problem. We got to La Bufadora around 3 if you have never been there it is one 3 natural blowholes in the world. When the tide comes in at this point it shoots the water high into the air. To get to it you walk through a long street of vendors selling everything from Pina coladas, trinkets food and drugs. We did buy some Pina Coladas and I would recomend the grilled clams covered in melted cheese right before you get to the blowhole they were tastee. My MBGF was quite entertained by the blowhole We did hang out for awhile watching the water shoot up a couple times the water shot so high it rained down on us and we did end up getting wet. On the way back to the taxi we stopped at a sit down restraunt and had some shrimp tacos. The food was not great but the view was. We ended up back at the taxi around 6 and she felt bad for making the taxi driver wait so long. She kept promising him a propina. When it was time to pay she asked me for an extra 2 dollars for the taxi I was thinking that was not much of an extra tip, but later she claimed she slipped him an extra 10 dollars of her money.

When we got back we hit the room for a little while then headed out to check out the nightlife. It was about a 3 block walk to the famous Hussong's Cantina. We spent most of the night there till around midnight drinking beer. I was facinated when the mariachi band played " A brick on the wall ". For some reason I thought the tab was going to be higher, not sure how many beers we had but the bill was only $27.

We then headed to Papas and beer there were 2 of them one was playing like disco type music and the other traditional mexican music. We went to the disco first the crowd was young and seemed pretty much local. After a couple beers we were watching this guy sitting next to us who seemed to be hitting up on another guy, then all of a sudden a third guy walked up and punched him in the face, then the meseros and security jumped in, we were able to escape but our beers fell victim to the brawl. We left and headed across the street. After awhile there the same thing happened, not sure what it was all about but a guy carrying a purse head butted another guy. Maybe Ensenada does not have a gay bar so they have to share the regular bars. Anyways we headed back to the hotel around 3. A. M.

The next day we slept in. The only negative moment occured in the morning when my MBGF got a call and she was setting up an apointment to fuck someone later in the week. That kind of thing used to not bother me but the closer you get, it bothered me, but oh well like GolfSexRoll would say it might be time to shoot me.

We checked out of the hotel arond noon and got something to eat and walked the 12 blocks to the bus station. The timing worked out great there was a bus ready to leave for Tijuana the cost $12. 50 per person. The bus had one stop in Tijuana before it got to the main bus station. The stop was about a block from her casa so she got off there. I stayed on the bus till the end of the line. Not really sure where I was. I inquired about a cab to La Linea and was quoted 15 dollars. I opted out and found a bus that took me right to the border for 75 cents.

All in all it was a fun filled couple of days. I know most of you don't go for this kind of thing. But if nothing else I will be left with some good memories. Of course it would have been alot cheaper to just go to Zona Norte and enjoy some robotic sex.

[JPF]

[QUOTE=JPF; 1402689]My concerns is for the "Pedestrian" SENTRI lanes.My report was for the pedestrian SENTRI.

[Efjayel]

I went through at 12:30 last Thursday (technically Friday morning) and the SENTRI line was open but there was no agent there. I moved across the front of a couple of lines and went to the first available agent and used my SENTRI card with no problem.So you cut in front of people? Did they give you "the" look?

[Phordphan]

So you cut in front of people? Did they give you "the" look?Screw 'em. SENTRI holders take priority over the other unwashed vermin. :D

[JPF]

So you cut in front of people? Did they give you "the" look?No negative looks. The people who I moved in front of saw that I was coming from the line of "kings" and eagerly let me take the next available spot. Seriously, the nearest agent was in the process of leaving to take someone to the "back room" and a different agent came and sat down in the spot diagonally opposite and I just went directly up to him without really looking at the people in line.

[TomJackin]

So you cut in front of people? Did they give you "the" look?You don't cut in front of people; just cruise by them!:)

[Suerte8]

UC San Diego team created 'Best Time to Cross the Border, ' app which provides real-time data on the length of the wait to come into the United States.

The free app can save you many hours in crossing time.

The app, for Android and iPhone, gives three important data points: the official current wait time, as reported by the Customs and Border Protection agency (which is usually an hour old) , the typical wait time and — most exciting for people who have to deal with border traffic insanity — the current wait time from travelers who are actually crossing. The users can upload actual data to fine tune the accuracy. There are currently about 20, 000 users.

So far it has received good feedback.

Technology? Why not!

[NDsg0911]

http://www.sandiegoreader.com/weblogs/news-ticker/2013/mar/29/congressmembers-vargas-davis-peters-push-for-san-y/

[Jim0129]

Here here! Lol.


screw 'em. Sentri holders take priority over the other unwashed vermin. :d

[Ath Trainer]

Screw 'em. SENTRI holders take priority over the other unwashed vermin. :DLove you too phordphan.

[Efjayel]

Had my SENTRI interview a few days ago.

It was nothing like I thought. I imagined I would be taken to a solitary room to sit in a chair underneath a hanging spotlight where some officers would grill me with questions. Guess I've been watching too many detective shows. That or at least some small office or desk where I sit and be interviewed by a CBP officer.

Instead it was more like I was applying for a drivers license at the DMV. They made me wait sitting on some chairs with a bunch of other people, then they call me up to the bunch of registers with officers with computers sitting behind them, again just like the DMV. It was a female CBP. All she really did was request all the required paperwork, asked me if I had applied for SENTRi before, which I said "no" then she asked me if I've ever been arrested, gone to jail, broke any importation laws etc. Basically the same background check questions that the application asked. I said "no" to all of them. Finally she asks me why I visit mexico, and I told her it was to visit friends and family. No further questions. Then I was told to park my car outside to have an inspector check it.

I also thought this was going to be a long check process where they put it on a lift and start poking through things and trying to find hidden compartments. Instead the officer, a friendly guy, just told me to open the trunk, and the hood. He took a brief look inside both then looked through the windows to inspect the inside of the car, stuck the sentri sticker on my window and I was on my way. Waiting to be interviewed was the longest part. They made me wait about an hour and a half. The rest which was paying and having the car inspected went pretty quick.

So now I'm SENTRI bound. Since I was down by the border I decided to cross. Aftewards the line to cross back was not very long. Like only 20 minutes to cross. Although I did see some old guy cheat and jump ahead of the line. He walked through the sentri lane but right before going to the sentri stalls he cut across to the right where everyone else crosses. The cop on duty wasn't paying attention. The old guy even bumped into him and the cop didn't notice he cut through the sentri lane. I felt like ratting him out but decided not to since I knew I will finally cross through the magical SENTRI line next time.

On another note, here is the "OFFICIAL" hours for the pedestrian SENTRI lane given to me in the orientation packet from the SENTRI office. FYI, San Ysidro is the Tijuana border. Read it and weep.

[Ak233]

on my recent trip to tijuana i enjoyed a number of hours of real massage. truthfully the girls were not trained massage therapists, but did rub and massage my body in a nice way for a very reasonable price. as i was walking along revolution avenue i came across a corner building with a large painted third floor sign called "aztec massage." it is not too far from the tijuana silver arch, as you walk away from the arch it is about two blocks down on your right. i climbed up to the third floor to investigate. the prices are great. one full hour of oil massage (no sex, no handjob) with one girl $25. if you want a four-hand (two girl massage) it was $35 for one hour. if you go back the same day, they offer an additional discount on the massage, for $20 for another hour. i was able to take a shower after the massage to wash off the oil. i gave the girls a few dollars in tip and they were appreciative. this was a great place and i went a few times during my trip. if you walk along revolution otherwise, the other places want $30-$35 for the same hour. the four hand massage was great. i was naked the entire massage, and enjoyed having a hard on the entire time they were rubbing my body (just not rubbing my cock). a nice guilty pleasure.

[FlapJacK]

i would like to find a place in tijuana that understands and can do real deep tissue and sports massage. if anyone knows of anyone or such a place in tijuana that can do this please let me know.

thanks.


on my recent trip to tijuana i enjoyed a number of hours of real massage. truthfully the girls were not trained massage therapists, but did rub and massage my body in a nice way for a very reasonable price. as i was walking along revolution avenue i came across a corner building with a large painted third floor sign called "aztec massage." it is not too far from the tijuana silver arch, as you walk away from the arch it is about two blocks down on your right. i climbed up to the third floor to investigate. the prices are great. one full hour of oil massage (no sex, no handjob) with one girl $25. if you want a four-hand (two girl massage) it was $35 for one hour. if you go back the same day, they offer an additional discount on the massage, for $20 for another hour. i was able to take a shower after the massage to wash off the oil. i gave the girls a few dollars in tip and they were appreciative. this was a great place and i went a few times during my trip. if you walk along revolution otherwise, the other places want $30-$35 for the same hour. the four hand massage was great. i was naked the entire massage, and enjoyed having a hard on the entire time they were rubbing my body (just not rubbing my cock). a nice guilty pleasure.

[Sound7]

massage therapist (mt) endurance. light swedish

relaxation and light swedish is what i nornally find at the three location on revolution:

1) namaste is near 3rd avenue has the rock music environment after 11 am from the business above ($25 for 45 minutes or $30 for 60/10 program punch card, one free).

2) viva mex is another one on the opposite side around hotel espana. the price is $35. 00 to $ 38. 00 depending on the day of the week. used to have specials on wedesday. viva mex does offer sport massage as an option for $45 plus.

3) aztec is the cheapest currently as stated but the room environment is least desirable. massage on a paper towel massage table. the $20 massage is for 2:1 package with a friend on tuesday.

deep tissue including sport massage requires rolfing skill training with great personal physical endurance. a few mt in tijuana have displayed rolfing skill endurance in my experience at the price range of $30's.

relaxation massage is the norm at the above three locations.


i would like to find a place in tijuana that understands and can do real deep tissue and sports massage. if anyone knows of anyone or such a place in tijuana that can do this please let me know.

thanks.

[Artisttyp]

On another forum there is mention of a Meningitis Outbreak occurring in Tijuana and the SD area. It has been reported that since Jan this year three times the number of cases have been reported. From what little I read about meningitis it appears that it can be spread by saliva and sharing a drink etc.

Can someone with boots on the ground or a SD local clue us in on what is going on.

I'd like to come for a visit soon but something tells me I would be an idiot to do so. What say you?

[NDsg0911]

On another forum there is mention of a Meningitis Outbreak occurring in Tijuana and the SD area. It has been reported that since Jan this year three times the number of cases have been reported. From what little I read about meningitis it appears that it can be spread by saliva and sharing a drink etc.

Can someone with boots on the ground or a SD local clue us in on what is going on.

I'd like to come for a visit soon but something tells me I would be an idiot to do so. What say you?The last couple of weeks this outbreak was covered by various TV news stations in town [b]

http://www.cbs8.com/story/21759174/san-diego-county-schools-get-meningitis-warning

Apparently this outbreak has been going on for sometimes and this is how serious it could be [b]

http://www.cbs8.com/story/20346119/sdsu-graduate-student-who-died-of-meningitis-idd

[Keg]

On another forum there is mention of a Meningitis Outbreak occurring in Tijuana and the SD area. It has been reported that since Jan this year three times the number of cases have been reported. From what little I read about meningitis it appears that it can be spread by saliva and sharing a drink etc.

Can someone with boots on the ground or a SD local clue us in on what is going on.

I'd like to come for a visit soon but something tells me I would be an idiot to do so. What say you?Yes, I've heard the same thing. Last week one of my favoritas told me about it, she wouldn't kiss this time, and she's usually a great GFE. I jokingly told her that I had a shot of tequila so we'd be OK, but she was being very cautious about.

[Artisttyp]

yes, i've heard the same thing. last week one of my favoritas told me about it, she wouldn't kiss this time, and she's usually a great gfe. i jokingly told her that i had a shot of tequila so we'd be ok, but she was being very cautious about.interesting. thank you for the response.

i'd like to hear more reports and how this is affecting the scene.

as most of you know my tongue is usually lodged up some chica's pooper. maybe this isn't the best the time to be mongering in tijuana.

[FlapJacK]

thanks, i normally pay $50/$60. an hour here in the states for a real deep tissue sports massage. i been to aztec in the past it seems to be about the same quality of massage that i would find in a chinese place. may give viva mex a try on my next trip in a few weeks.


massage therapist (mt) endurance. light swedish

relaxation and light swedish is what i normally find at the three location on revolution:

1) namaste is near 3rd avenue has the rock music environment after 11 am from the business above ($25 for 45 minutes or $30 for 60/10 program punch card, one free).

2) viva mex is another one on the opposite side around hotel espana. the price is $35. 00 to $ 38. 00 depending on the day of the week. used to have specials on wedesday. viva mex does offer sport massage as an option for $45 plus.

3) aztec is the cheapest currently as stated but the room environment is least desirable. massage on a paper towel massage table. the $20 massage is for 2:1 package with a friend on tuesday.

deep tissue including sport massage requires rolfing skill training with great personal physical endurance. a few mt in tijuana have displayed rolfing skill endurance in my experience at the price range of $30's.

relaxation massage is the norm at the above three locations.

[Artisttyp]

thanks, i normally pay $50/$60. an hour here in the states for a real deep tissue sports massage. i been to aztec in the past it seems to be about the same quality of massage that i would find in a chinese place. may give viva mex a try on my next trip in a few weeks.vivamex is where i go. not all the therapists are great so make sure you specify what you want. daniella is my personal favorite.

[Baxter Slade]

On another forum there is mention of a Meningitis Outbreak occurring in Tijuana and the SD area. It has been reported that since Jan this year three times the number of cases have been reported. From what little I read about meningitis it appears that it can be spread by saliva and sharing a drink etc.

Can someone with boots on the ground or a SD local clue us in on what is going on.

I'd like to come for a visit soon but something tells me I would be an idiot to do so. What say you?Yes this week there was a story regarding several cases spreading to Orange County California. And they did mention Tijuana as the origin. They also mentioned a vacine is available. Might want to check into that if you are coming down.

[Ath Trainer]

Yes this week there was a story regarding several cases spreading to Orange County California. And they did mention Tijuana as the origin. They also mentioned a vacine is available. Might want to check into that if you are coming down.I was at a blood drive for the red cross last week. Travelers to mexico in the last yr are being turned down because of it. No mention of Tijuana, just mexico

[Artisttyp]

No mention of Tijuana, just mexicoIs the entire country on alert for Meningitis or was this just something related to Tijuana? Any idea where this might have started?

From what I understand it starts from dirty hands (waste) touching food then passing it on to other people. It's been going on for 1 yr now?

[Ath Trainer]

Is the entire country on alert for Meningitis or was this just something related to Tijuana? Any idea where this might have started?

From what I understand it starts from dirty hands (waste) touching food then passing it on to other people. It's been going on for 1 yr now?Seems to be based in Tijuana. Red cross must be including all of mexico, since people from Tijuana do go to other places in the country.

[Sound7]

State vs Tijuana massages.

State:

Asian:

Full body massages starting at $28 in the City of GG & SG and so called Foot Massage turning into 90 % body massage for $15. 00. The tip expectation is very high for some Asian providers and not the 20 percent guideline. Repeat occure if the tip expectation is meet at the last encounter. Some asian group MT will demand certain dollar amont upon exit. Massage price structure varies among the sub-asian groups and location. A vistor to the state may tip as he choices, not an issue. No repeat transaction. Some Foot MT can match or excede the full body experience. Not all places use fresh linen and towels.

Asian massage at a hotel spa in LA run $120 plus.

Tijuana:

Tip is appreciated in any form.

Hotel massage starting $60. 00.

Tijuana places use fresh linen and the cilent volume is low.

A bargain in Tijuana but now with the Foot Massage places ($15) and some offering full body ($28) it is a tie at the low end. Hotel spa massage are still a bargain in Mexico. The future of Tijuana massage is in question.

2013 Meningitis Outbreak In Tijuana:

Will this impact massage trips to Tijuana?


Thanks, I normally pay $50/$60. An hour here in the states for a real deep tissue sports massage. I been to Aztec in the past it seems to be about the same quality of massage that I would find in a Chinese place. May give Viva Mex a try on my next trip in a few weeks.

[MS Clive]

Seems to be based in Tijuana. Red cross must be including all of mexico, since people from Tijuana do go to other places in the country.Gentlemen I had contracted both meningitis and pneumonia on my trip to Tijuana in Feb. I was miserable and out of circulation for weeks. But will still return.

Oh the power of pussy!

[Artisttyp]

Gentlemen I had contracted both meningitis and pneumonia on my trip to Tijuana in Feb. I was miserable and out of circulation for weeks. But will still return.

Oh the power of pussy!WOW. PLEASE tell us more about your ordeal and what you experienced. This is worth more than a short post. Did you have them both at the same time or did one cause the other ?

Why didn't you mention this sooner. Like in FEB? That's what we do here. Share current up to date information.

Thanks

[Artisttyp]

According to the CDC (just called them) the only health alert for Mexico is for Dengue fever in southern tropical areas. Just keep checking the website for alerts.

Would still like to hear the *complete story from Ms. Clive.

Thanks

[DaveSD]

I've had a buddy contract pneumonia down in Tijuana a couple of years back. He just happened to hit the perfect storm:

-It was winter time.

-It was a rainy year.

-He was on a non-stop month long bender due to being laid off.

-No sleep because he was always partying.

And most importantly, he wasn't being careful about his beer. If you notice, the maseros are hustling around the club, touching the girls, pushing chairs and tables around. I've seen some of them exit the bathroom without washing their hands (various clubs). What does that waiter do when you want a beer? Pop that ***** and hand it to you. When you take a drink, you're basically sucking down everything that guy has touched in the past couple of hours.

Next time you get a beer, ask for a couple of extra napkins and wipe down the neck and top of your beer. Trust me. I started doing this (and making sure I wash my hands after getting "friendly" with the girls) and I've personally been less sick throughout the year than I have in the past.

Sidenote: Sorry for no info about meningitis. I just wanted to offer advice.

[TomJackin]

Gentlemen I had contracted both meningitis and pneumonia on my trip to Tijuana in Feb. I was miserable and out of circulation for weeks. But will still return.Please share with us how you got meningitis and pneumonia in Tijuana. Help us from making the same mistakes.

[MS Clive]

Please share with us how you got meningitis and pneumonia in Tijuana. Help us from making the same mistakes.OK folks I am currently on a busy business trip so I will be brief. But wanted to report back as 2 veterans here are asking me to post.

Earlier this year in Jan / Feb I was visiting Tijuana for my first mongering trip to Mexico. Been to other countries such as DR, Colombia and Thailand. Tijuana ranked last for me but very convenient given that I am in California.

During my stay there I lived at Cascadas and pretty much stuck to Zona del Norte during my 4-5 day trip. I even met up with a veteran on this board and another interesting guy I met there. The latter advised me not to partake of street food but I did.

Anyway. What I generally ate were tacos in the food carts around the Zona, a club sandwich in the alley below Cascadas and an enchiladas next to a restaurant near Adelita's. BTW the enchiladas in the restaurant are pretty good and in my limited experience the best and cleanest food in the Zona. I stayed fairly safe by drinking bottled water etc.

As I said I contracted meningitis and pneumonia (both bacterial) during my stay in Tijuana. Here is what may have caused it. One or all of the following:

I made a series of mistakes:

1) I arrived tired after putting in a few all-nighters because I was busy with office work. Even when I got there I rested for 1 night and still worked hard on my laptop. So I was very tired.

2) Second mistake was that I took a room in the lower floors of cascadas which totally suck. There was no heating and it was 55. 60 degrees in Tijuana those nights. Maybe it was as low as 50-55 deg. So I was basically shivering there.

3) There was no hot water in the room so I took a cold shower in the morning. I was miserable right away.

4) Spent evenings partying and drinking (lightly though) without getting enough sleep.

By day 2 I asked to move to another room and got a nice master suite with hot hot water. Good move. But my mistakes continued:

5) BIG mistake was eating raw / boiled oyster and conch at a food cart right next to Hong Kong. I don't know what you call it but it is conch sliced up well and served in a plastic glass with lime juice and some spices. Something like a conch cocktail if you will. I have eaten this in Dominican Republic (a vendor serves this up at Blackbeard's with no ill effects). Damn he even added regular water to the glass and I still consumed most of it. It was quite fresh but I got fuckin tempted as I was missing DR I guess at that time.

6) Another mistake was drinking a bottle of water at Adelita's that did not seem right. I had more than one sip before I decided to discard the bottle. As soon as I had a sip I knew something was off and the water tasted different. I am giving AB the benefit of doubt that maybe that particular bottle was bad because I had several bottles there during my trip but only this one was bad.

7) Kissed some girls. I LOVE DFK so I won't call this a mistake but this was a factor in me getting infected.

On my last day there I was running a light fever so I decided to head back early. When I arrived home I was miserable and assumed it was the Flu. After 4 days of suffering or so I went to the doctor who diagnosed me with meningitis and pneumonia and gave me a bunch of antibiotics. This illness was the worst I have experienced for a while. But I am fully recovered now and returning to Tijuana late April.

[TomJackin]

OK folks I am currently on a busy business trip so I will be brief. But wanted to report back as 2 veterans here are asking me to post.Thank you for reporting back.

[Artisttyp]

GREAT POST. Thank you so much for writing it.

A few things :

I TOTALLY understand how your sleeping arrangements made you miserable. First of all it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that partying and lack of sleep = illness. There is no way I would last even a week on a mongering trip without a good night's sleep every night. Besides partaking in booze and sex which are taxing to the immune system already your body is working on overdrive to defend itself from all the new bacteria and germs in your new / foreign environment. My throat gets swollen a few days after I get there. This is your immune system going nuts in your new environment.

I wouldn't go to Tijuana at all unless I had a room with HEAT and AC. If you are around the zona area HOTEL VELARIO up on ART 123 has Heat and AC in the rooms. July And August might be the only months when you can squeak by without heat. I don't go to Mexico City for that reason alone. Affordable hotels don't have heat at 7K feet....you need to be nuts to put yourself through that....add Bogota Quito Ecuador etc.

When you plan a mongering trip you need to think about the whole enchilada not just the sex part.

I grew up traveling as a youngster with my family and I was always instructed NEVER to eat street food and NEVER eat raw salads. For most of my life I have followed this to a T. However I've let my guard down several times in Tijuana because street food is part of the experience IMO. Funny thing is I've never gotten sick from the street food but I have gotten sick at one or two 5 start restaurants in Tijuana. WHY? I ate salad and meat! Be careful of meat in Tijuana. It might be cooked when it gets to you but you never know where it comes from or how it was stored. Been to the mercados in Mexico? Slabs of beef hanging from hooks with flies swarming all over it. YUMMY.

Every time I go to Tijuana I get sick. Just ask Tom Jackin. I've stood him up many times. Too many days in bars licking strange assholes drinking too much smoking too much. Tijuana is EXCESS!

About a year ago my lungs were so weak I felt like I needed to go to the ER. For a period of one week I had trouble even walking a few blocks I was so out of breath. Maybe I had walking pneumonia. I never did get tested because it finally passed.

* What I don't understand is how you acquired both meningitis and pneumonia? Does having one cause the other or did you get you just get lucky? If you told your doctor that you went to Tijuana what was his response? Did he mention any bacterias or viruses prevalent in that area?

Something else to consider is timing. Apparently the Meningitis outbreak has been going on since JAN. Some reports say it is only in Tijuana but on some expat website it mentions "other parts of the state" as well.

I love mexico and the people but I wouldn't depend on the mexican media for honest statistics. Too many tourism dollars are at stake. Follow the local SD news channels and keep up to date. It looks like Southern California is in just as much trouble with this. Thousands of people cross back and forth daily.

Bacterial Meningitis is no joke. You can die within hours of feeling sick and amputations are sometimes necessary for survivors. Look it up.

Glad you made it out OK and Thank You for sharing your miserable experience with us. Lesson learned.

[Ath Trainer]

Looks like the red cross ban on blood donation to travelers to mexico is due to a malaria outbreak where Cancun is located. Has nothing to do with Tijuana and meningitis.

[Artisttyp]

Looks like the red cross ban on blood donation to travelers to mexico is due to a malaria outbreak where Cancun is located. Has nothing to do with Tijuana and meningitis.According to the CDC DENGUE is a problem right now as well.

[Artisttyp]

I've had a buddy contract pneumonia down in Tijuana a couple of years back. He just happened to hit the perfect storm:

-It was winter time.

-It was a rainy year.

-He was on a non-stop month long bender due to being laid off.

-No sleep because he was always partying.

And most importantly, he wasn't being careful about his beer. If you notice, the maseros are hustling around the club, touching the girls, pushing chairs and tables around. I've seen some of them exit the bathroom without washing their hands (various clubs). What does that waiter do when you want a beer? Pop that * and hand it to you. When you take a drink, you're basically sucking down everything that guy has touched in the past couple of hours.

Next time you get a beer, ask for a couple of extra napkins and wipe down the neck and top of your beer. Trust me. I started doing this (and making sure I wash my hands after getting "friendly" with the girls) and I've personally been less sick throughout the year than I have in the past.

Sidenote: Sorry for no info about meningitis. I just wanted to offer advice.DAVESD.

Thank you for your report. Please continue to post.

Welcome To ISG

[BayBoy]

Having read all the reports from the last few days, here's my check list on the Meningitis situation. I'll be in Tijuana 2 weeks from now.

1. Be careful of the water and beverages to drink (even bottled water)

2. Don't eat any raw food.

3. NO KISSING the chicas.

4. Wash your hands frequently.

5. Get plenty of sleep and rest

[GolfSexRroll]

Having read all the reports from the last few days, here's my check list on the Meningitis situation. I'll be in Tijuana 2 weeks from now.

1. Be careful of the water and beverages to drink (even bottled water)

2. Don't eat any raw food.

3. NO KISSING the chicas.

4. Wash your hands frequently.

5. Get plenty of sleep and restHow about 3 out of 5!

[GolfSexRroll]

How about 3 out of 5!I work in a hospital. Just about everything reported about Mex and Tijuana in the States is overblown. More people have DIED in SD this year than the H1N1(flu) PENDEMIC of 2009 (when NO ONE went to Mex.) Just be careful. If you are too skidish to go- more chicas for us "loco" ones.

[BayBoy]

I can't gauge just how bad this meningitis situation is right now. It sounds to me that there has only been a few cases so far.

Anyway I'll take some precautions.

[Reinaldo]

There have been 18 confirmed cases during this outbreak.

http://www.el-mexicano.com.mx/informacion/noticias/1/3/estatal/2013/03/27/662539/entre-familiares-siete-de-los-18-casos-de-meningitis


I can't gauge just how bad this meningitis situation is right now. It sounds to me that there has only been a few cases so far.

[SBeach25]

How about 3 out of 5!I take airborne tablets when I travel. I just been in 4 different environments in 2 weeks. From SoCal to Nicaragua, to Midwest back to SolCal. And I have yet to get sick. It was below freezing levels in Midwest and I landed in shorts, t-shirt, and sandals. This stuff works. I recommend you taking this to start your day. Its basically an immune booster.

[Rippa]

Howdy Boys,

Got the chance to get back to Tijuana for a couple of days next week (16th and 17th) and am looking forward to trying something a bit different this time. I have developed a taste for a certain escort on CITJ. Com and thought I'd try the Ticuan and meet up with her there. Then thought I'd spend a night at Cascadas for a change of chica scenery. Up to this point, all my visits have been day-trip walk-overs.

So if you can help a fellow punter out here, I'd sure appreciate your thoughts on these questions:

1) I've read many times it's not a particularly long walk from Ticuan to La Zona, but not all that safe at night. Any idea what's a righteous cab fare? I'm no tocano, just don't want to get ripped off.

2) Any recommendations for a good, safe place to stash my car on the US side of the border for a couple of days vs. Short term parking?

3) And if I can sneak in just one more, any good, current restaurant recommendations to pass along? I'm going to hit Ceasars, which so many of you have reviewed here, but am looking for everything from high-brow to low. BTW, I really like the little joint just to the right of the HK entrance at the corner. Great tacos al pastor.

As always, fresh field reports will be forthcoming, and I want to thank all the regular contributors to this site. I'm lucky enough to get around the world a bit for mongering from time-to-time, and this forum rates among the very best for lively reading and good, useable intel on the local scene.

Muchas gracias por tu ayuda, caballeros!

[Guitarrefreak]

My feedback:

1) I've read many times it's not a particularly long walk from Ticuan to La Zona, but not all that safe at night. Any idea what's a righteous cab fare? I'm no tocano, just don't want to get ripped off.

To each his own, if you are not planning to stumble around drunk, walking isn't so bad if you stay on revolution. Zona norte is about 8 blocks north of ticuan and then 1 block west, not a bad walk IMHO to do some thinking, cab is going to rip you off at $5 regardless, personally I would offer 30 pesos top for that trip.

2) Any recommendations for a good, safe place to stash my car on the US side of the border for a couple of days vs. Short term parking?

No advice on couple of days, but short term parking, lot behind Jack In the Box is always good, though I am sure you can find cheaper longer term options on the other side of the freeway, but honestly, if you want to do any longer, you might as well park near the airport and take a trolley down, not sure where you are coming in from though.

3) And if I can sneak in just one more, any good, current restaurant recommendations to pass along? I'm going to hit Ceasars, which so many of you have reviewed here, but am looking for everything from high-brow to low. BTW, I really like the little joint just to the right of the HK entrance at the corner. Great tacos al pastor.

Cien anos has been highly reviewed, I like pampas brazilian meats but those are probably only if you want to go on a date, the enchiladas de camarones in the alley is effing good, make sure its the older lady cooking for you though.

Have fun!


Howdy Boys,

Got the chance to get back to Tijuana for a couple of days next week (16th and 17th) and am looking forward to trying something a bit different this time. I have developed a taste for a certain escort on CITJ. Com and thought I'd try the Ticuan and meet up with her there. Then thought I'd spend a night at Cascadas for a change of chica scenery. Up to this point, all my visits have been day-trip walk-overs.

So if you can help a fellow punter out here, I'd sure appreciate your thoughts on these questions:

1) I've read many times it's not a particularly long walk from Ticuan to La Zona, but not all that safe at night. Any idea what's a righteous cab fare? I'm no tocano, just don't want to get ripped off.

2) Any recommendations for a good, safe place to stash my car on the US side of the border for a couple of days vs. Short term parking?

3) And if I can sneak in just one more, any good, current restaurant recommendations to pass along? I'm going to hit Ceasars, which so many of you have reviewed here, but am looking for everything from high-brow to low. BTW, I really like the little joint just to the right of the HK entrance at the corner. Great tacos al pastor.

As always, fresh field reports will be forthcoming, and I want to thank all the regular contributors to this site. I'm lucky enough to get around the world a bit for mongering from time-to-time, and this forum rates among the very best for lively reading and good, useable intel on the local scene.

Muchas gracias por tu ayuda, caballeros!

[Phordphan]

Howdy Boys,

Got the chance to get back to Tijuana for a couple of days next week (16th and 17th) and am looking forward to trying something a bit different this time. I have developed a taste for a certain escort on CITJ. Com and thought I'd try the Ticuan and meet up with her there. Then thought I'd spend a night at Cascadas for a change of chica scenery. Up to this point, all my visits have been day-trip walk-overs.

So if you can help a fellow punter out here, I'd sure appreciate your thoughts on these questions:

1) I've read many times it's not a particularly long walk from Ticuan to La Zona, but not all that safe at night. Any idea what's a righteous cab fare? I'm no tocano, just don't want to get ripped off.

2) Any recommendations for a good, safe place to stash my car on the US side of the border for a couple of days vs. Short term parking?

3) And if I can sneak in just one more, any good, current restaurant recommendations to pass along? I'm going to hit Ceasars, which so many of you have reviewed here, but am looking for everything from high-brow to low. BTW, I really like the little joint just to the right of the HK entrance at the corner. Great tacos al pastor.

As always, fresh field reports will be forthcoming, and I want to thank all the regular contributors to this site. I'm lucky enough to get around the world a bit for mongering from time-to-time, and this forum rates among the very best for lively reading and good, useable intel on the local scene.

Muchas gracias por tu ayuda, caballeros!1. It's not a particularly long walk, nor is it particularly dangerous. Revolucion is well lit at night, although this was not the case a few years ago. If you're there on a weekend, Revu will be busy from one end to the other. It'll all be locals out partying. This does depend on when you'll do this. It will be pretty quiet between 2 and 4 am on a weekday, so things might be different. And if you walk around shitfaced then all bets are off. Yellow cabs work on the zone model, so it'll be a flat fee and $5 is rather high for an 8 block trip. Find a Taxi Libre and offer 30 pesos and see what happens.

2. Where are you coming from? That may make a difference. As GF said, there is long term parking at the airport. The trolley is very handy and $2. 50 each way.

3. Google Mision 19 and get their address, write it down and tell the cabbie you want to go. Few of them know it by name. Excellent food, reasonable prices for the quality. If it's a weekend, make reservations. Check out the specialty cocktail bar on another floor. Run by the same owner.

[HorseTrader]

I no longer park at the lot behind Jack in the Box. I don't like paying for an extra 8 hours if I'm 1-minute late.

Go to the west end of the pedestrain bridge, I think the parking is marked as UETA. About the same price as JIB, except JIB is for 8 hours and UETA is 24 hours. I park very near the ramp to go up the pedestrain birdge. The round trip probably forces me to walk an extra mile or 2, but that is a good thing for my heart and lungs.

[Roger]

Hello,

Going to be my first time in Tijuana in June. Going to stay there for 6 days. Already have airline tickets to San Diego. Would you please recommend a quieter hotel a little bit away from the noise.

I can not sleep with too much noise. I must be able to sleep. I am a daytimer and don't wander around too much after sunset. As long as it is safe to walk during the daytime, walking from my hotel to the HK area and back, won't be a problem to me.

So, would you please recommend one or two hotels, away from the noise, within 2 to 6 blocks from (5 to 10 minute walk) from the HK and Adelitas area.

Appreciate your help,

Roger

[FlapJacK]

I recently stayed a pace called Velario that was not too bad. Single room was $30 bucks a night. It was clean and quiet. A few blocks from the action. Seemed safe enough for walking around during the day but night time I would recommend a taxi just like I would for any place that requires walking a few blocks or more during the night time. They have a web site www.hotelvelario.com. Website seems broken. They have AC, WIFI and food service and cable TV. I am sure there are many other out of the way places to but this is the only one I have experience with.


Hello,

Going to be my first time in Tijuana in June. Going to stay there for 6 days. Already have airline tickets to San Diego. Would you please recommend a quieter hotel a little bit away from the noise.

I can not sleep with too much noise. I must be able to sleep. I am a daytimer and don't wander around too much after sunset. As long as it is safe to walk during the daytime, walking from my hotel to the HK area and back, won't be a problem to me.

So, would you please recommend one or two hotels, away from the noise, within 2 to 6 blocks from (5 to 10 minute walk) from the HK and Adelitas area.

Appreciate your help,

Roger

[Phordphan]

Hello,

Going to be my first time in Tijuana in June. Going to stay there for 6 days. Already have airline tickets to San Diego. Would you please recommend a quieter hotel a little bit away from the noise.

I can not sleep with too much noise. I must be able to sleep. I am a daytimer and don't wander around too much after sunset. As long as it is safe to walk during the daytime, walking from my hotel to the HK area and back, won't be a problem to me.

So, would you please recommend one or two hotels, away from the noise, within 2 to 6 blocks from (5 to 10 minute walk) from the HK and Adelitas area.

Appreciate your help,

RogerFor a stay of that duration, you'll probably want the Ticuan. Hotel Espana and Hotel Caesar are both on Revu, there are several others a block or two off of Revu, and are a bit cheaper, but less comfortable. All will be quiet, except perhaps on a weekend. For quiet, Ticuan is your best bet. Ask for a room on the opposite side of the dance club Las Pulgas.

[Artisttyp]

You won't be getting much sleep facing or being near Revolucion or Las Pulgas nightclub. Better to stay at La Villa De Zaragoza on Madero entre Calle 7 and 8 or at least Hotel Del Rio 2 blocks up from the Ticuan on Constitution. I could never sleep in these other hotels.

I am an extremely light sleeper.

[Guitarrefreak]

Ask for a room on the opposite side of the dance club Las Pulgas.+ 1.

Extremely extremely important.

(extremely)

[Efjayel]

I know this is Tijuana unrelated but this reminds of this one time when I went out of the country and stayed at some hotel that my brother booked. He got it cause it was "cheap." When we got the room they handed us towels and ear plugs. I thought they gave us ear plugs as a creature comfort, you know for light sleepers. Little did we know that the hotel and our room in specific was located right below a dance club that stayed open all night. Worst. Night. Of. My. Life.

[Efjayel]

Just saw on the local news today here in L. A. About a Meningitis outbreak. That it had likely came from the outbreak in New York. But they mentioned that it's located in West Hollywood and affecting the gay community so they are putting warnings around the gay clubs since it's contracted through kissing and other human contact. One guy has already even died from it.

So maybe it's not Tijuana where it's coming from, it's probably here in the US where it started.

[Artisttyp]

Just saw on the local news today here in L. A. About a Meningitis outbreak. That it had likely came from the outbreak in New York. But they mentioned that it's located in West Hollywood and affecting the gay community so they are putting warnings around the gay clubs since it's contracted through kissing and other human contact. One guy has already even died from it.

So maybe it's not Tijuana where it's coming from, it's probably here in the US where it started.Two unrelated cases IMO. One started in the gay community in NYC where people travel for bi coastal parties (makes sense). The other started in Tijuana and has made it's way to the SD SoCal area from travelers that went to Tijuana. Just a few months ago we had another meningitis scare in the NYC area from a doctor giving out tainted steroid shots.

From what little I know about meningitis it is already in the environment and has to do with animal / human contact in some way then an outbreak occurs when the "scales are tipped". There is a scientific name for this "scale tipping" but I forgot what it is. Basically enough of the Bacteria has to be present under ideal conditions for it to spread then when it reaches the tipping point it becomes an outbreak. It is difficult to put into words sorry. This can take place in more than one place since meningitis is already in the environment. It doesn't need to necessarily travel anywhere specific for it to start.

[JoeSurf]

I haven't been to Tijuana in years. I know you used to be able to go there and return with a valid CA driver's license. Is that still the case?

[AmanteDeLatina]

I am right now tentatively planning a short trip to Tijuana leaving Phoenix on the morning of Saturday June 8, spending the night there and then returning sometime on Sunday June 9. I would not mind having some people to help split the very expensive cost of gasoline down there. If you live in the Phoenix area or somewhere on the way in between and if you promise me that you will not try to smuggle any illicit drugs in my car back (the last time I had someone come with me from one of these boards, they bought Vicodin which is a very controlled substance and snook it through customs and two border checkpoints) and you would like to tag along please contact me. I do not drive into Tijuana, I usually park at the UETA lot and walk in and take a taxi. Another monger has recommended a different lot that I might try so I do not know for sure yet. I do drive a small, compact car (A Toyota Corolla) so I do get very good gas mileage (about 40 miles to the gallon on the highway) so I should be able to limit the cost of gasoline fairly well.

I usually spend the bulk of my time at HK. I do though usually make a small visit to AB, CC, LC and TB. I usually spend the night at Cascadas although I am checking my options out on that one since they have raised their prices and I was not impressed with their service the last time I was there. I would have no problem if you wanted to spend the night at a different place than I do. Please contact me if you might be interested. I put this up early so hopefully someone will see it that is interested by then.

[Roger]

I recently stayed a pace called Velario that was not too bad. Single room was $30 bucks a night. It was clean and quiet. A few blocks from the action. Seemed safe enough for walking around during the day but night time I would recommend a taxi just like I would for any place that requires walking a few blocks or more during the night time. They have a web site.

www.hotelvelario.com.

Website seems broken. They have AC, WIFI and food service and cable TV. I am sure there are many other out of the way places to but this is the only one I have experience with.Thank you guys for suggesting a few hotels away from the noise. I think I will book one of the hotels you have recommended for one or two nights. Once I will be there, I will check around and move to a different hotel, if needed.

[SBeach25]

Can't remember where I posted the original on Google Translate but thanks to my fellow mongering wingman know as "jaun" to the latina's, you can also download an offline Spanish translate to use. This helps with the communication. Enjoy guys.

[Efjayel]

I haven't been to Tijuana in years. I know you used to be able to go there and return with a valid CA driver's license. Is that still the case?You'll need to be able to prove your citizenship. In my case since I'm only a resident of these fine states I have to show proof of that.

[Guitarrefreak]

I haven't been to Tijuana in years. I know you used to be able to go there and return with a valid CA driver's license. Is that still the case?You need something to prove that you are legally allowed to be in the states.

A driver's license alone (whether CA or other) is not sufficient to prove.

People take all kind's of things, passport card, passport, birth certificate, sentri.

You may be able to get by with a driver's license alone but be prepared to be taken into secondary, I would rather not take the chance

[SpideyLennon]

Where is the best place for getting singles before heading to Tijuana? I don't want to break 20's or 100's in the bar, I might get ripped. LOL.

[Guitarrefreak]

Where is the best place for getting singles before heading to Tijuana? I don't want to break 20's or 100's in the bar, I might get ripped. LOL.Why don't you break 20s instead?

You would be getting 20s anyway directly from atms, and breaking 20s in Tijuana bars are quite simple and straightforward.

Normally if you had 100s, you would have gotten them from a bank, at which point you would ask them to break it for you anyway.

Problem solved.

[FlapJacK]

20's are safe and simple to use in Tijuana. But hundreds I would break at bank before going south.

Also I am headed to Tijuana next Saturday April 20th. If any regular from the board wants to meet for a drink I be happy to meet yea. I probably get there between 3 and 5 pm.


Where is the best place for getting singles before heading to Tijuana? I don't want to break 20's or 100's in the bar, I might get ripped. LOL.

[HorseTrader]

Where is the best place for getting singles before heading to Tijuana? I don't want to break 20's or 100's in the bar, I might get ripped. LOL.I agree that 20s are fine and are easily broken in HK and other bars. The waiters are very good about giving singles as change because they want you to have them for tips. I still recommend bringing about $20 in $5 bills plus about $10 in singles. The small bills are used for the cabs, food along the street, and various tips. Never be caught at the end of the trip without at least $5 in small bills to pay for your cab ride to the border.

One of my favorite ways to spend about $3 is the freshly made juice on Constitution just south of school girl corner. The sanitary conditions are questionable at best, but the juice tastes great and it helps prepare for the next round.

[AmanteDeLatina]

Where is the best place for getting singles before heading to Tijuana? I don't want to break 20's or 100's in the bar, I might get ripped. LOL.I usually go to the bank here in Phoenix and get a shit load of singles before I go. As far as 100's, I have used them before with no problem in HK. They gave me correct change. It is funny, I have found it is more difficult to use pesos down there than dollars. I am serious, at HK if you have pesos and you ask how much your drink costs in pesos the waiter does not even know. He has to go back and ask him manager. It is literally very difficult to get the HK to accept pesos, they want dollars!

[SpideyLennon]

Is changing dollar to peso will save me money, before negotiating?

I've read members here that pays pesos instead of dollars.

[SpideyLennon]

I usually go to the bank here in Phoenix and get a shit load of singles before I go. As far as 100's, I have used them before with no problem in HK. They gave me correct change. It is funny, I have found it is more difficult to use pesos down there than dollars. I am serious, at HK if you have pesos and you ask how much your drink costs in pesos the waiter does not even know. He has to go back and ask him manager. It is literally very difficult to get the HK to accept pesos, they want dollars!I see that you travel all the way from phoenix, how often do you make trips to Tijuana? Is that worth the trip?

[Lascivious]

I crossed the boarder on foot on a Thurs for the first time since the new port was opened. *At first I thought it would be great to both come and go on the same side, as if *I were going to save walking time and distance. *It turns out, as most of you know, that is not the case.

As I walked though the new entrance, I remember it being described as reminiscent of the entrance to Auschwitz. *I must concur. * Not to *trivialize one of the most horrific tragedies *of human history. *But I digress.

I walked past the yellow cabs, *not knowing where the Taxi Libres were. *I walked up to a *cab, I forget the name but it wasn't a *Libre. *I asked,"Tres? Holding up three fingers. *He nodded and I was in my way.

I have a pretty lame routine that I vow to break out of every time I go but I find myself falling back into the same ol' rut. * AB, HK, then into *prowling down the alley looking for chicas with as close as I can get to that *FOB look.

After a quick lap around AB, avoiding the cute little puta that I ficha'd last time, I was off to HK. *I checked out the shaving cream show. *They were not that hot, but for a couple bucks, squeezing some tits and dropping a digit or two on some naked girls was worth it. *There was a girl on the bar that had an okay face but a great body. *I sat at the barand felt up her damn near perfect tits and very nice, firm young ass. *I made a couple rounds but didn't see many standouts. *I had no desire to socialize with any putas, I wanted sucky-fucky with a cutest, youngest, leanest little FOB type street girl I could find.

I prowled up and down both sides of the alley, also looking along *the adjacent street, Constitution I think. *It didn't take long for me to narrow my focus down to a couple of hotties. *After walking back and forth a few times, my choice was Katia. *I know many of you know her, she has her own thread, but for those that don't, she is relatively tall, very thin flat belly, young looking face and has something I have a bit of a fetish for, braces.

We hit the Hotel Mini. *More to come in part two.

[Guitarrefreak]

Is changing dollar to peso will save me money, before negotiating?

I've read members here that pays pesos instead of dollars.To each his own.

If you don't go down enough, don't even sweat about this and let it get in the way of having a fun experience.

The little 'extras' that you end up paying will end up just being a few bucks anyway, certainly not worth you overthinking about it.

Besides as a n00b, you are going to overspend, anyway.

That is the experience, that is the fun.

Once you start going down there enough, maybe you want to use pesos to create the impression you are local, or maybe you want to do it for better rates, hell, maybe you do it so the chicas will be impressed, but ultimately, your negotiating powers come from what comes out from your mouth, rather than what comes out from your wallet

[AmanteDeLatina]

I see that you travel all the way from phoenix, how often do you make trips to Tijuana? Is that worth the trip?I made the trip 3 times so far in the last year. I think it is worth it. First, Tijuana has so much many more girls than the closer towns (Nogales, Los Algodones and Mexicali). Nogales is a rip off and a shit hole and I will never go there again. Los Algodones is OK but it does not have a 24 hour border crossing and there is only 2 places with about maybe 10 girls a piece. Mexicali probably comes the closest to Tijuana but it is not very tourist friendly. I do not speak Spanish and in Mexicali it is hard to find anyone that speaks English. Tijuana caters to Americans so practically everyone in the town speaks English (I remember the first time I went there with another friend from Phoenix and we joked that in Phoenix there are places where you can not find anyone that speaks English but in Tijuana everyone speaks it so I think Tijuana speaks more English than Phoenix. LOL). Once and a while you will get a girl that doesn't but there are plenty of meseros to translate for you. Of course, Tijuana is legendary so I like that about it. I just think Tijuana is the best of the border towns.

[Lascivious]

I don't know why there are al the asterisks in my report. *I used apple notepad and cut and pasted it into the form. They didn't show up in the preview. I can't edit it.

[BayBoy]

On the Foreign Exchange money charts they're saying its 12 Mexican Pesos to the US Dollar. Is that what the exchange cambios giving in Tijuana? Anybody know.

[MrSimple]

On the Foreign Exchange money charts they're saying its 12 Mexican Pesos to the US Dollar. Is that what the exchange cambios giving in Tijuana? Anybody know.From my visit yesterday, the exchange places had about 11. 7-11. 9 pesos to a dollar. I knew it was going to be low because I google the exchange rate before I make a trip down. The rate has been getting low gradually since mid last year. But in a short run, it isn't too much of a difference IMO.

For example I like to pay the gals 700-800 pesos per arriba, depending on circumstances. A year ago with 12. 5-1 ratio, the converted rates for that were 56-64usd. But now it's 59. 3-67. 8usd with 11. 8-1 ratio. I know that may be a lot in the long run, but I'd rather not stress over it for a short romp. We can't do anything about the rates, it is what it is.

Also, for anyone that has BoA debit cards, try using the ATM next to AB. With my BoA debit card a couple times, I didn't get charged anything. I was worried about after-charge, but later I found out that that ATM machine (scotia) doesn't charge fees on BoA debit withdrawals (not even after-charge of 2usd for using different ATM machines besides BoA). Also it gives out much a better rate than the exchange kiosks.

That machine was down yesterday so I used the one in hk, it charges a fee of around 90mxn. And there will be a few after-charges for me.

Anyway, try not to use the ATM machines unless 1. You really need cash or 2. You have BoA debit for AB ATM machine.

For a 1st time use, choose the amounts in pesos. On my first time I wanted to withdraw 150usd so I pressed 150, but it gave me 150mxn, which is like 12usd. LOL. Luckily I used the AB machine without fees. It was a weird experience for me. LOL.

Have fun and keep it simple, mother-father gentlemen.

[GolfSexRroll]

On the Foreign Exchange money charts they're saying its 12 Mexican Pesos to the US Dollar. Is that what the exchange cambios giving in Tijuana? Anybody know.At the cambio at San Ysidro McDonalds on Sunday at 3pm the price was 11. 85 to $1 or 1180 pesos per $100. 00 (I exchanged $110 Igot change"$" and 1300pesos. On the Mexican side the cambios at the border (before the turnstyles were selling pesos at 11. 60. In the zona it was 11. 50. (the good news if you want to buy American dollars it is cheaper! Hahaha)

[BayBoy]

Thanks for the very accurate info on the exchange situation in Tijuana guys. I guess the days of 13 to 1 are over for now. I usually change $100 when I first get there plus bring a lot of $1s and $5s.

Be there Fri. And Sat. If anybody wants to get together.

[Lascivious]

She took me by the hand and led me to pay at the window. I put the cash on the table next to the bed. She acted like she was going to leave it there but she turned and snatched it up before we began. This often does not bode well for the ensuing session but it all went well.

I do everything covered so I didn't ask Katia for BB anything. She stated to strip quickly. I took a little time to explore her hot little body. This girl is really tiny. You could practically wrap your hands around her waist. Her flat belly felt really nice. Her titties are really small but she has nice nipples. She has a cute smile and soft hair.

Enough playing around, I decided it was time for her to wrap those sweet little lips around my unit. Her braces made her look so cute. I brought some flavored condoms and asked her if she liked fresas. I asked her tentatively due to my limited spanish and asked her if I said it correctly. She asked me how to say it in English and repeated it back to my with a cute little smile and accent.

I stretched the tip of the condom out a bit and put a dollop of lube in it to make it feel wet and slippery inside the condom on my cock. She applied it for me, then proceeded to shove my cock down her throat, making a little gagging sound. It was hot! I love deep throat but most street girls can't or won't do it. I asked her if it tasted good and she said yes, like it was okay.

She has a sweet playful nature, unlike many street girls that grow a bit sullen once in the room. I positioned her with her ass propped up so I could see it in the well-lit room's large mirror. It was a great sight. I love to see that view while getting blown. She allowed me to grab her hair and coax her head down a little deeper. She couldn't take it all but she did pretty well.

It looked hot when she licked up and down my shaft with some intermittent eye contact. She smiled at me and seemed amused by how much I was liking it. After a bit, she decided that she was ready to fuck. I asked her to go a little longer and she complied. After another minute or two she was done with that. I asked her to keep going but she alluded to her braces hurting her.

She began to lube herself up but I deployed a little trick of mine. I hate too much lube. I like to block them from getting too much on there by putting my cock down there before they are ready. I don't just pile drive it in right away. I rub it up and down their lips then slowly work it in.

My cock sliding into her tight little pussy was a great site and it felt even better. I'm not going to pretend that she was actually loving it but she did a great job selling the illusion. She let me pound her really hard with her legs pinned back, sometimes referred to a the half-buck or full-buck positions.

When I really got going she was moaning and getting into it. She looked at times as if she were in pain. I asked her a few times if she was okay and she assured me that she was. I've run onto this situation many times. Even when they're in obvious pain they won't admit it. It's like a badge of honor to be able to take it.

Time was running short. She let me know and I just kept pounding away. It felt so good that I actually had to hold back. She looked at me and urged me to fuck her. I could hold back any longer and let go a huge load. When she was taking off the condom she said,"mucho leche". She seemed proud of herself, making me come so much.

I took another quick lap around AB. Walking back down the alley, I was grabbing a piece of gum for myself and offered a piece to the girl ahead of her, then to Katia and her friend. I wanted to get another look at her on the street to be able to remember what she looked like. I went back to HK for a minute and decide to go home.

I remembered that I had two more condoms and wanted to ask her if she wanted them. She was talking to a guy so I waited. I then asked her if she wanted them and she accepted. That same guy walked up to me and started to ask me if I wanted girls or anything else, I assume drugs.

I blew him off and said I was leaving. As I turned to grand cab he got pissed and asked why I was hanging around. And with that I was off, back to the good ol' US of A. Not one person was ahead of me in line at 12:30a.

[TomJackin]

On the Foreign Exchange money charts they're saying its 12 Mexican Pesos to the US Dollar. Is that what the exchange cambios giving in Tijuana? Anybody know.I usually get my highest exchange rate in San Ysidro. However, last Friday the rate was lower than 12 to 1. All the bars in la coahuila are using 12 to 1 ratio for drinks and food. So I used dollars for drinks and such, but still used pesos for the girls. Some girls can do the math, but many don't seem to care.

Just my 2 pesos.

[HorseTrader]

I usually get my highest exchange rate in San Ysidro. However, last Friday the rate was lower than 12 to 1. All the bars in la coahuila are using 12 to 1 ratio for drinks and food. So I used dollars for drinks and such, but still used pesos for the girls. Some girls can do the math, but many don't seem to care.

Just my 2 pesos.For simplicity, I usually just pay in US dollars. But I have checked the exchange rate from time to time. On one trip I noticed that it was better to change from dollars to pesos on the US side and change from pesos to dollars on the Mexican side. I don't know if that is always true.

[Guitarrefreak]

For simplicity, I usually just pay in US dollars. But I have checked the exchange rate from time to time. On one trip I noticed that it was better to change from dollars to pesos on the US side and change from pesos to dollars on the Mexican side. I don't know if that is always true.If one is willing to deal with the hassle of walking back and forth the borders, I actually have considered making some money doing this.

[John Magellan]

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Also, for anyone that has BoA debit cards, try using the ATM next to AB. With my BoA debit card a couple times, I didn't get charged anything. I was worried about after-charge, but later I found out that that ATM machine (scotia) doesn't charge fees on BoA debit withdrawals (not even after-charge of 2usd for using different ATM machines besides BoA). Also it gives out much a better rate than the exchange kiosks.I have psoted this info before but the best exchange rate you will find in Mexico is BofA with 2 Mexican Banks.

FYI BofA has the same deal with Banco Santander and Scotibank. No ATM fees and they give you pretty close to the current market (spot) rate. Good for any amount, however Santander does have max limits (up tp $6K pesos) per transaction based on location of the ATM.

[John Magellan]

For those interested.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=MXN=X&t=1d

[GolfSexRroll]

For those interested.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=MXN=X&t=1dThanks. That looks like a good tool to guestamate what the rate will be like. As seen just now the rate has fluctuated. 20 pesos in 12 hours (edt) and it is different at ALL cambios (even across the street in the trolley area at San ysidro!) Fractions of pesos don't mean a lot but could get you a delicious street taco!

[MS Clive]

If one is willing to deal with the hassle of walking back and forth the borders, I actually have considered making some money doing this.Yeah tell me when you start this business so I can mug you.

[Reinaldo]

Don't get your hopes up. You won't get this good a rate at either the cambios or the atm's.


For those interested.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=MXN=X&t=1d

[AmanteDeLatina]

For simplicity, I usually just pay in US dollars. But I have checked the exchange rate from time to time. On one trip I noticed that it was better to change from dollars to pesos on the US side and change from pesos to dollars on the Mexican side. I don't know if that is always true.I have done some world travelling in my lifetime. It is always better to exchange your dollars to whatever currency you need in the states and then change back to dollars before you leave in the foreign country. The country you are in is always going to favor its own currency on exchanges. The American place will favor the dollars as they wants lots of dollars to come in and Mexico will favor the pesos because they want them.

[AmanteDeLatina]

If you want the best possible rate for exchanging dollars to pesos, the best thing you can do is to do it at your local bank. The only issue is though that you have to let them know in advance and it usually takes 2 or 3 days for them to get the money in. I bank at Chase and they offer a special rate to Chase customers. If I go in there like 3 or 4 days in advance I can order the currency and pick it up later getting a way better rate than the cambios. I have never checked the Chase banks that are really close to the border. Maybe they have pesos in stock since I am sure that there would be a bigger call for them there.

[Artisttyp]

If you want the best possible rate for exchanging dollars to pesos, the best thing you can do is to do it at your local bank. The only issue is though that you have to let them know in advance and it usually takes 2 or 3 days for them to get the money in. I bank at Chase and they offer a special rate to Chase customers. If I go in there like 3 or 4 days in advance I can order the currency and pick it up later getting a way better rate than the cambios. I have never checked the Chase banks that are really close to the border. Maybe they have pesos in stock since I am sure that there would be a bigger call for them there.I had the complete oppositie experience with my bank (Chase). They never charged me for the service but the exchange rate was always horrible compared to what I would get on the ground. I wonder if that has to do because my bank is located in NYC ?

I stopped doing that years ago.

[MS Clive]

Disturbing stats in Tijuana: 6% of girls have HIV.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nv7xBjoTIRA

[FlapJacK]

Of course if you look at the bottom of the food chain girls you will find more problems. They only interviewed the druggy dirty, nasty looking street checks in the report. I doubt the true infection rate is that high with the healthy cleaner girls.


Disturbing stats in Tijuana: 6% of girls have HIV.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nv7xBjoTIRA

[Reinaldo]

Why don't you do this the next time you come to Tijuas? Then you can post the rate they gave you and we can compare it to the atm rate and the rate at the cambios.


If you want the best possible rate for exchanging dollars to pesos, the best thing you can do is to do it at your local bank. The only issue is though that you have to let them know in advance and it usually takes 2 or 3 days for them to get the money in. I bank at Chase and they offer a special rate to Chase customers. If I go in there like 3 or 4 days in advance I can order the currency and pick it up later getting a way better rate than the cambios. I have never checked the Chase banks that are really close to the border. Maybe they have pesos in stock since I am sure that there would be a bigger call for them there.

[AmanteDeLatina]

Why don't you do this the next time you come to Tijuas? Then you can post the rate they gave you and we can compare it to the atm rate and the rate at the cambios.I just checked chase. Com and it appears that there are no Chase banks in San Ysidro or San Diego. The closest one is in Ramona, CA which is about 50 miles away. So I guess it is a mute point.

If any of you ever go to Mexicali I do know that there is a branch there because I have used it before. I have never tried to exchange currency there but I have used their ATM so I do not know if they have pesos in stock.

[SBeach25]

I just checked chase. Com and it appears that there are no Chase banks in San Ysidro or San Diego. The closest one is in Ramona, CA which is about 50 miles away. So I guess it is a mute point.

If any of you ever go to Mexicali I do know that there is a branch there because I have used it before. I have never tried to exchange currency there but I have used their ATM so I do not know if they have pesos in stock.Google San Ysidro, then type in search for chase.

Chase.

340 W San Ysidro Blvd, San Diego, CA.

(619) 428-3404

[Artisttyp]

Google San Ysidro, then type in search for chase.

Chase.

340 W San Ysidro Blvd, San Diego, CA.

(619) 428-3404It's located next door to the Post Office. Take bus# 506 or 507 (ask the driver which one) from the San Ysidro trolley station. It drops you off right in front.

[AmanteDeLatina]

Google San Ysidro, then type in search for chase.

Chase.

340 W San Ysidro Blvd, San Diego, CA.

(619) 428-3404That is strange, I wonder why chase. Com says there are none. Are those actual branches or are they just ATM's?

[HorseTrader]

That is strange, I wonder why chase. Com says there are none. Are those actual branches or are they just ATM's?It's an actual branch. I used to go there frequently, then I realized that the waiters provided all the singles and fives that I needed. Now I just use any handy ATM on the US side.

[SBeach25]

It's an actual branch. I used to go there frequently, then I realized that the waiters provided all the singles and fives that I needed. Now I just use any handy ATM on the US side.Yeah, I went through the same thing when I started taking trips down there. Nearest one was like miles away until I drove by trying to avoid the traffic to the border. Then I tried google and sure enough, it popped right up.

[GolfSexRroll]

Just saw on the news tonight that 34 guys were arrested in a Street / internet prostitution sting over the past two days here in SD. Why? Tijuana is just 10 miles away.

Why risk being a 'sex offender' for the rest of your life! Not to mention cost of lawyers, fines (jail?) Come on- it's crazy. LE are busy and the media LOVES it. Just MHO. NOT worth risking it.

[SBeach25]

Just saw on the news tonight that 34 guys were arrested in a Street / internet prostitution sting over the past two days here in SD. Why? Tijuana is just 10 miles away.

Why risk being a 'sex offender' for the rest of your life! Not to mention cost of lawyers, fines (jail?) Come on- it's crazy. LE are busy and the media LOVES it. Just MHO. NOT worth risking it.I drive down to Tijuana just to avoid this. Yes, some times its a long drive but at least I don't have worry about LE regarding my hobbies or the after effects of the stupid laws regarding prostitution in the US.

[LukeSkywalker]

Was waiting in the long return line, sometime 3 to 4 hours.

Apply for my Global Entry on the net. Paid $100. Got conditional approval in 7 working day.

Kept working the CBP appointment on line. Got an appointment with CBP in Otay Mesa within 2 weeks. Drove down and got approved with the car within 1 hour.

The CBP guy said they have relaxed the approval criteria a lot recently. Unless someone got felony convictions or 2 or 3 recent misdemeanors, chances are good they will get approved.

$100 for Global Entry is better and cheaper than Sentry. Sentry would cost $100 plus $45 for the car. Global Entry can expedite you through immigration at any airport, also any land and sea ports like San Ysidro.

Apply for your car and bring current registration and insurance. If the car is legal, having both front and back licence plates, no crack on windshield larger than a quarter, no tinted windows etc. It will be approved with a sticker for Sentry lane.

Global entry is well worth the $100 fee for 5 years, not having to wait in line with thousands other people.

Pass the word.

[Efjayel]

hate to break your high, but global entry is sentri. they've been merged together with other programs as part of the global online enrollment system.

speaking of, i finally used my sentri card on the pedestrian line. it wasn't very big this time around, it would have still been like an hour or more wait if i didn't have it, but you never know when it will be really long like that one time when i spent over 4 hours waiting in line. how i held my [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) for that long i'll never know. anyways, it felt really nice that i finally got to be one of those privileged few that gets to walk in like the king of rome and bypass that huge line. i even felt like waving bye to all the suckers waiting to get checked. got to the front of the turnstile, but bypassed it when i showed the cbp my sentri card, walked all the way in through the building again to the front, had the officer check my card. then he just waved me by. it was the fastest i've ever crossed the border in my life. there where like 3 people in front of me, but even then the whole process from walking from tijuana and getting through the border check took no longer than 4 or 5 minutes. it all happened so quick, it didn't even feel like i was back in the usa yet. luckily i was, and quickly i was back in my car and headed north. now if only there was a sentri line that bypassed the 2 hour drive back to l. a. still, as a sentri guy, i can never look back now. it's like riding first class, you'll never want to go back to coach.

[The Hammer1169]

I drive down to Tijuana just to avoid this. Yes, some times its a long drive but at least I don't have worry about LE regarding my hobbies or the after effects of the stupid laws regarding prostitution in the US.I work in a profession that puts me in contact with law enforcement. I get to know them pretty good. Couple weeks back this little blond cop, a really good looking girl, shows up. I start talking to her and she works vice. She said that her entire job is posting on Backpage and Craigslist, and busting people for soliciting sex. Now, I don't know if there is a connection to this sting in SD but she told me she was leaving to a "nearby" city for a big sting and would be out of town for a "couple of weeks." Makes me wonder if she was involved in the SD operation.

There have been a few times I serfed Backpage and Craigslist when my wife gets pissy and doesn't put out. I never used any of the girls; just considering it. I texted one once about a possible hookup. Girl starts asking what services I want, how much I will pay, Etc. I dropped her like a red hot potato.

The few times in my marriage I looked outside the house for my fulfillment were always in Mexico. Either Tijuana or Los Algodones. I won't mess with anything in the states.

By the way; for Spanish speakers, Craigslist in Tijuana is chuck full of girls. Last time I was there I called an 18-year old and had her to my room. She flat said it like this "$100. 00 for rent my body, all yours." She gave what she called "oral sex natural (no condom)" and anal. Oral on her was wide open, LITERALLY. The only limit was covered intercourse, which is good policy anyway. No drinks to buy, no BS, and a full hour in my room with no knocks, no cum boys wanting tipped, complete privacy. If or when I get cut off at home and go back to Tijuana I'm going that route again. My last experience at Hong Kong was ok. $60. 00 for a little asian / mexican girl that was a good bang, but the front desk called me at 6:00am after going to sleep at 4:00am and demanded 20 pesos for a call I made on the phone. I left and swore I would never return. I actually walked right down the stairs in my underweare and threw the money at him.

Basically; I cross the border because my wife doesn't like certain things I do; rather than live without it I go down to Mexico and get it there. Totally at peace with it too. I don't need to force her to do things she isn't comfortable with, and I don't need to live without it. But as far as getting those needs filled in the states. Not a prayer!

[AmanteDeLatina]

Just saw on the news tonight that 34 guys were arrested in a Street / internet prostitution sting over the past two days here in SD. Why? Tijuana is just 10 miles away.

Why risk being a 'sex offender' for the rest of your life! Not to mention cost of lawyers, fines (jail?) Come on- it's crazy. LE are busy and the media LOVES it. Just MHO. NOT worth risking it.I travel 6 hours from Phoenix, Az to avoid it. I do not know what the laws are in CA but here in AZ they can literally impound your car and they can even seize your house!

[Member #4728]

I work in a profession that puts me in contact with law enforcement. I get to know them pretty good. Couple weeks back this little blond cop, a really good looking girl, shows up. I start talking to her and she works vice. She said that her entire job is posting on Backpage and Craigslist, and busting people for soliciting sex. Now, I don't know if there is a connection to this sting in SD but she told me she was leaving to a "nearby" city for a big sting and would be out of town for a "couple of weeks." Makes me wonder if she was involved in the SD operation.

There have been a few times I serfed Backpage and Craigslist when my wife gets pissy and doesn't put out. I never used any of the girls; just considering it. I texted one once about a possible hookup. Girl starts asking what services I want, how much I will pay, Etc. I dropped her like a red hot potato.

The few times in my marriage I looked outside the house for my fulfillment were always in Mexico. Either Tijuana or Los Algodones. I won't mess with anything in the states.

By the way; for Spanish speakers, Craigslist in Tijuana is chuck full of girls. Last time I was there I called an 18-year old and had her to my room. She flat said it like this "$100. 00 for rent my body, all yours." She gave what she called "oral sex natural (no condom)" and anal. Oral on her was wide open, LITERALLY. The only limit was covered intercourse, which is good policy anyway. No drinks to buy, no BS, and a full hour in my room with no knocks, no cum boys wanting tipped, complete privacy. If or when I get cut off at home and go back to Tijuana I'm going that route again. My last experience at Hong Kong was ok. $60. 00 for a little asian / mexican girl that was a good bang, but the front desk called me at 6:00am after going to sleep at 4:00am and demanded 20 pesos for a call I made on the phone. I left and swore I would never return. I actually walked right down the stairs in my underweare and threw the money at him.

Basically; I cross the border because my wife doesn't like certain things I do; rather than live without it I go down to Mexico and get it there. Totally at peace with it too. I don't need to force her to do things she isn't comfortable with, and I don't need to live without it. But as far as getting those needs filled in the states. Not a prayer!These days there is a boom of prostitutes in Tijuana, especially escorts who advertise mainly in 5 or 6 websites.

This has made &8203; &8203; it much more frequent sgfe or GFE service, while they have lowered their rates to 80-100 dls for an hour or more with a high-level escort, something impossible a few years ago. So for many occasional local married monger or who do not like goi ng to the zona, has become a better option, with the added benefit that it is generally best service and the cost adds up cheaper than the zona norte.

[AmanteDeLatina]

Google San Ysidro, then type in search for chase.

Chase.

340 W San Ysidro Blvd, San Diego, CA.

(619) 428-3404I called this branch this morning and found they are the same as the branches in Phoenix. They do have a currency exchange but you have to order the money two days in advance. Odd thing is they told me they always stock British Pounds and Japanese Yen but not pesos (not sure why they stock those two currencies and not pesos since they are so close to the border, can't imagine there would be that much call for pounds and yens. LOL). As of this morning there exchange rate is 11. 9 pesos per dollar for Chase customers. I have not been down to the border lately so I am not sure if that is competitive enough to go through the hassle of buying them in advance.

[GolfSexRroll]

I called this branch this morning and found they are the same as the branches in Phoenix. They do have a currency exchange but you have to order the money two days in advance. Odd thing is they told me they always stock British Pounds and Japanese Yen but not pesos (not sure why they stock those two currencies and not pesos since they are so close to the border, can't imagine there would be that much call for pounds and yens. LOL). As of this morning there exchange rate is 11. 9 pesos per dollar for Chase customers. I have not been down to the border lately so I am not sure if that is competitive enough to go through the hassle of buying them in advance.$ to pesos: Mc Donalds at trolley station at noon Sunday; 11. 71 / In mex at the walk in at la linea 11. 78 / in the zona 11. 70. Chase: Not worth the hassle IMHO

[Efjayel]

Is changing to pesos really that detrimental? At the end of the day, how much do you end up saving?

[GolfSexRroll]

Is changing to pesos really that detrimental? At the end of the day, how much do you end up saving?Changing to pesos is easy. I use them because I have been paying my SG favorites them for a long time. Also you are more likely to get a SG to do "everything" (depends on the chica) 300 pesos than $24 USD (what 300p is worth today) Anyway that is what I go with. Yes the bar girls are asking for dollars and when quoting in pesos they are asking anywhere from 1000-800 pesos ($80-$65 approx.) I go almost every week so extra pesos just go to next week. Plus I have to admit when I buy pesos I consider it "spent" and look at as monopoly money-crazy I know!

[SBeach25]

I called this branch this morning and found they are the same as the branches in Phoenix. They do have a currency exchange but you have to order the money two days in advance. Odd thing is they told me they always stock British Pounds and Japanese Yen but not pesos (not sure why they stock those two currencies and not pesos since they are so close to the border, can't imagine there would be that much call for pounds and yens. LOL). As of this morning there exchange rate is 11. 9 pesos per dollar for Chase customers. I have not been down to the border lately so I am not sure if that is competitive enough to go through the hassle of buying them in advance.Everytime I travel I always get the exchange rate down there. Banks are there to make money so they will quote you a lower rate. In the case of Tijuana, I'm too damn lazy to get the pesos. But to each his own. As for the banks, they only carry the major currency. I tried to get Brazillian Reis but they said they had to order them and it would take 2 weeks. I found a ATM that gave me better rates down there so screw the banks. Remember they are there to make money as well. If you really want a good deal, get a citibank card and withdraw in pesos there. Citibank does not charge exchange rate fees. But then you run the risk of having your account hacked. The only reason I can think of regarding pesos at that chase bank is that there are currency exchanges all over Tijuana so I guess it doesn't make sense to carry it. There is an exchange rate service right across AB. If you look around, you may find a better rate of exchange while in Tijuana.

[DJ FourMoney]

Just saw on the news tonight that 34 guys were arrested in a Street / internet prostitution sting over the past two days here in SD. Why? Tijuana is just 10 miles away.

Why risk being a 'sex offender' for the rest of your life! Not to mention cost of lawyers, fines (jail?) Come on- it's crazy. LE are busy and the media LOVES it. Just MHO. NOT worth risking it.Why?

1) They believe Mexico is dangerous for Gringos. When was the last time a Gringo who wasn't involve with the say Zetas in some roundabout way was found dead? Americans fear their own shadow, its pathetic.

2) All the woman are sub-par like the many you find walking around the various barrios of Southern California. Again untrue, while the majority are average looking or worst, there are stunners and you usually don't have to go very far to find either working girls or non-pros, you just need to know where. Web sites like this are a wealth of information.

3) Mexico is dirty and nasty. Does it look like Huntington Beach? Of course not! At least not the areas where middle class and working class Mexicans live. In a stratified economic system, you won't find the rich in most tourist areas, but they are around.

They believe all these things are true and take the huge risk of being caught by bored vice squads looking for suckers.

[BayBoy]

I was in Tijuana last Friday and Saturday. Most cambios were doing 'compra 11. 80' pesos to the dollar, that was the highest I could find. Also I got across the border on Sunday morning at 8:45am in 5 minutes. Nice.

Was with 2 street girls (Gloria and Lucy) , good service.

[Efjayel]

It can save moneyYou forgot to mention how much.


when quoting in pesos they are asking anywhere from 1000-800 pesos ($80-$65 approx.)Sounds higher than the regular quote of $60. Exactly again, how do you save going with pesos?

[Phordphan]

You forgot to mention how much.

Sounds higher than the regular quote of $60. Exactly again, how do you save going with pesos?For a long time the peso was 10 to the dollar. The price for a chica was 500. 600 pesos, and it had been that way for some time. Then the dollar started to gain strength against the peso, eventually topping out at just over 12:1.

You saved money by still negotiating and paying in pesos, AT THE OLD 10:1 RATE. But loads of numbnuts had to be smart and say,"Well, gee. 600 pesos in now only $50, so I got to pay 800." It didn't take too long for the girls to figure this out, either.

The point of all this is that if you stick to the 10:1 rate, which most chicas will happily accept, you will save money. As the Obama Dollar slowly sinks into the west, the point will be moot, as the dollar will again be at 10:1, and probably even less.

[Reinaldo]

As the Obama Dollar slowly sinks into the west, the point will be moot, as the dollar will again be at 10:1, and probably even less.Other than you Obama haters, no serious source thinks the dollar is going to 10:1 where it was when your buddy Dubya was President.

[SBeach25]

Other than you Obama haters, no serious source thinks the dollar is going to 10:1 where it was when your buddy Dubya was President.Sorry dude, but the shift in manufacturing will cause the Mex pesos to strengthen. There is a huge shift right now in the southwest. Right now there is pending agreement for a railroad that will run straight down to Monterrey. This railroad will bring in automobiles that are assembled or parts of automobiles on this rail system along with other goods. If you follow economics, than you know Warren Buffet not only bought the 2nd largest rail company in america a couple of years ago. Not only did he buy the company but the whole damn supply chain that supports industry from fueling, manufacturing, and maintanence of the rail cars. This guy isn't called the "Oracle" for nothing. Why? Because he knows that the shift in manufacturing is coming back to North America due to rise in cost of labor in China. So the cheapest place along with logistics right now is Mexico. Look at Monterrey, the economy is already booming and set to boom even more. Monterrey has positioned itself as the place for manufacturing and this will trickle down to other parts of Mexico. Yes, the pesos will rise. Enjoy it now while it lasts.

[GolfSexRroll]

You forgot to mention how much.

Sounds higher than the regular quote of $60. Exactly again, how do you save going with pesos?I pay the SGs I go with (YMMV) at most 300 pesos (usually for 30 min sucky / fucky sin ropa / chupar penocha / besos / multi positions. Most will quote $30-$40 for that. 300=around $24/$25. Do the math. What I said (meant) that bar girls will QUOTE 800/1000 p (not pay-what you should negotiate them to 600/700 p. The chicas WILL quote $80 (1000 p) now (new norm) so if they quote 800p you can work them down to maybe 600/700 ($48-&55. This will probably work better with day chicas- the night ones think they are worth much more!

Because the little head does the thinking. (we all need someone else paying (like dcell) the bill to bring some sense to all this INFLATION!)

[Efjayel]

Damn at bad at ratios and math. Took me a while to figure out what you said. Had to refresh myself on ratios and conversions to figure it out.

But basically at 12:1, this means the dollar is worth more now and the peso is worth less. Yes, I'm so bad that I couldn't comprehend that until I did some math figures on paper.

At 10:1, the dollar is worth less and the peso more (not more than the dollar but more than at 12:1). So if it's true what you said that the exchange rate will go back to 10:1, it would mean that if you buy pesos now and wait for 10:1, you will end up making money. If that ever happens.

At 12:1, Now.

$60 dollars = 720 pesos.

$50 dollars = 600 pesos.

At 10:1, then or foresee-ably the future.

$60 dollars = 600 pesos.

$50 dollars = 500 pesos.

Lets say you change $1000 dollars to pesos at 12:1 you will get 12000 pesos.

Then you wait and change the 12000 pesos to dollars when it becomes 10:1 you get back $1200 dollars. Profit of $200 dollars.

[SBeach25]

Damn at bad at ratios and math. Took me a while to figure out what you said. Had to refresh myself on ratios and conversions to figure it out.

But basically at 12:1, this means the dollar is worth more now and the peso is worth less. Yes, I'm so bad that I couldn't comprehend that until I did some math figures on paper.

At 10:1, the dollar is worth less and the peso more (not more than the dollar but more than at 12:1). So if it's true what you said that the exchange rate will go back to 10:1, it would mean that if you buy pesos now and wait for 10:1, you will end up making money. If that ever happens.

At 12:1, Now.

$60 dollars = 720 pesos.

$50 dollars = 600 pesos.

At 10:1, then or foresee-ably the future.

$60 dollars = 600 pesos.

$50 dollars = 500 pesos.

Lets say you change $1000 dollars to pesos at 12:1 you will get 12000 pesos.

Then you wait and change the 12000 pesos to dollars when it becomes 10:1 you get back $1200 dollars. Profit of $200 dollars.Now do the opposite and you now have the concept of how to trade in foreign currency. There is a lot of money to be made in the slight changes in fluctuations. I know of people who make a killing on the fluctuations. But yes, GSR has just passed on to you the concept of why you pay in local currency is so much cheaper. I think I will execute this knowledge myself on my next trip.

[MrSimple]

Sorry dude, but the shift in manufacturing will cause the Mex pesos to strengthen. There is a huge shift right now in the southwest. Right now there is pending agreement for a railroad that will run straight down to Monterrey. This railroad will bring in automobiles that are assembled or parts of automobiles on this rail system along with other goods. If you follow economics, than you know Warren Buffet not only bought the 2nd largest rail company in america a couple of years ago. Not only did he buy the company but the whole damn supply chain that supports industry from fueling, manufacturing, and maintanence of the rail cars. This guy isn't called the "Oracle" for nothing. Why? Because he knows that the shift in manufacturing is coming back to North America due to rise in cost of labor in China. So the cheapest place along with logistics right now is Mexico. Look at Monterrey, the economy is already booming and set to boom even more. Monterrey has positioned itself as the place for manufacturing and this will trickle down to other parts of Mexico. Yes, the pesos will rise. Enjoy it now while it lasts.Where do you get this kind of information. For a long time China has been the place for manufacturing, but do you see the shift to monterrey being big enough to battle economic dominance over China? I would think that it make sense to make that shift when you consider location and price, whatnot. When is the next time you are visiting Tijuana? Enlighten me your thoughts on economics and I will get you a bucket of beer. That's now on my bucket list, sharing thoughts about the future global economics while getting a grind on my lap with a beer in my hand. LOL. Let me know when you're in Tijuana next time, sb25.

[Phordphan]

Other than you Obama haters, no serious source thinks the dollar is going to 10:1 where it was when your buddy Dubya was President.When Dubya was prez, gas was half what it is today. So, my trips to Thailand were half the cost they are today. Since my salary hasn't doubled in the past 4 years (unlike the federal deficit) , Tijuana is the closest alternative. And I blame BO for that.

[GolfSexRroll]

[QUOTE=SBeach25; 1414548]Now do the opposite and you now have the concept of how to trade in foreign currency. There is a lot of money to be made in the slight changes in fluctuations. I know of people who make a killing on the fluctuations. But yes, GSR has just passed on to you the concept of why you pay in local currency is so much cheaper. I think I will execute this knowledge myself on my next trip. [/QUOTE.

Every $/peso! Saved is more money to give to the chicas anyway, and more fun for us!

But if you think "what is a few dollars, I am on vacation and HORNY and shit I can spend what the fuck I want" This attitude has caused the "new norm" quotes from $60 (as It has been for a few years) to $80 and slowly to $100. THIS IS NOT LA. THIS IS MEXICO. If you want to pay high prices stay in the US and risk LE / and their fucking STINGS and REALLY screw your life up (sex offender)

I come to Tijuana almost every week. I live in SD. I am on a budget with my "hobby". The crazy chicas asking CRAZY prices. This has made it a challenge to play with too many new chicas. This is the reason I mostly stick to my regulars / favs. No price increases in a year. I'm not saying it is impossible to negotiate to the price you want, it just makes it more of a challenge. I pass them up If the quote and my negotiating are not in my range. (SGs / BGs see me al the time-I have time on my side-play the game.eventually they will cave in) I said this IS my HOBBY!

Remember to all you (one and done) guys you never know if you want a chica for a repeat. The price you establish will be your going rate for future dates. (of course YMMV) ' Cuidate esta pronto!

[HorseTrader]

The whole concept of saving money using the peso is based on one assumption: the girls think in terms of a 10:1 ratio. Personally, I believe only a few girls still think like that. If a girl asks for $80 and the I counter with 800 pesos, the girl knows that is less money. We would be just as well off countering with $67 as 800 pesos. I've had several experiences when the girl has asked for $80 and my counter of 800 pesos has been refused. Same concept on the street, a $30 sin ropa offer would be made but a 300 peso sin ropa counter would be refused.

Mongers give too little credit to the girls' knowledge of exchange rates. They might not do the exact conversion, but they know $1 is worth more than 10 pesos.

[GolfSexRroll]

[QUOTE=SBeach25; 1414548]Now do the opposite and you now have the concept of how to trade in foreign currency. There is a lot of money to be made in the slight changes in fluctuations. I know of people who make a killing on the fluctuations. But yes, GSR has just passed on to you the concept of why you pay in local currency is so much cheaper. I think I will execute this knowledge myself on my next trip. [/QUOTE.

Every $/peso! Saved is more money to give to the chicas anyway, and more fun for us!

But if you think "what is a few dollars, I am on vacation and HORNY and shit I can spend what the fuck I want" This attitude has caused the "new norm" quotes from $60 (as It has been for a few years) to $80 and slowly to $100. THIS IS NOT LA. THIS IS MEXICO. If you want to pay high prices stay in the US and risk LE / and their fucking STINGS and REALLY screw your life up (sex offender)

I come to Tijuana almost every week. I live in SD. I am on a budget with my "hobby". The crazy chicas asking CRAZY prices. This has made it a challenge to play with too many new chicas. This is the reason I mostly stick to my regulars / favs. No price increases in a year. I'm not saying it is impossible to negotiate to the price you want, it just makes it more of a challenge. I pass them up If the quote and my negotiating are not in my range. (SGs / BGs see me al the time-I have time on my side-play the game. Eventually they will cave in) I said this IS my HOBBY!

Remember to all you (one and done) guys you never know if you want a chica for a repeat. The price you establish will be your going rate for future dates. (of course YMMV) ' Cuidate esta pronto!I'm not bashing SoCal just the unfavorable legal system and taboo about SEX! I have been in the "hospitality" industry and have lived in EVERY county in SoCAl! Among other citys NY / MIAMI / DENVER. So I have been around the block! A time and place for everything. In SoCal work, live, Disneyland etc. But to fuck and have fun go to Tijuana (adult Disneyland) Pay the price for SoCal sunshine in the States. P4P in Mexico at MEXICO prices in Mexico money=pesos. You don't give MICKEY 1200+ pesos to ride "space mountain" so don't pay puntas in in dollars (if you can!).

[GolfSexRroll]

The whole concept of saving money using the peso is based on one assumption: the girls think in terms of a 10:1 ratio. Personally, I believe only a few girls still think like that. If a girl asks for $80 and the I counter with 800 pesos, the girl knows that is less money. We would be just as well off countering with $67 as 800 pesos. I've had several experiences when the girl has asked for $80 and my counter of 800 pesos has been refused. Same concept on the street, a $30 sin ropa offer would be made but a 300 peso sin ropa counter would be refused.

Mongers give too little credit to the girls' knowledge of exchange rates. They might not do the exact conversion, but they know $1 is worth more than 10 pesos.Of course they know the exchange rate. Most pay for things in USD and some pay their rent in USD. Of course they like $. They have to convert pesos back to $. (lose money in exchange) But in Mexico you don't pay the asking price for anything. (always been this way). So if you can get a chica to go (for your price) more likely you will save in pesos (IMHO).

[Belldude2]

When Dubya was prez, gas was half what it is today. So, my trips to Thailand were half the cost they are today. Since my salary hasn't doubled in the past 4 years (unlike the federal deficit) , Tijuana is the closest alternative. And I blame BO for that.Say what you will about GWB, but I was better off when he was prez. I used to travel to Tijuana every other weekend. Now I am lucky If I can afford to go once every couple of months. Everything went to shit when BO entered office and America voted him back in again. At least he can't be reelected again. Thank GOD!

[Phordphan]

The whole concept of saving money using the peso is based on one assumption: the girls think in terms of a 10:1 ratio. Personally, I believe only a few girls still think like that. If a girl asks for $80 and the I counter with 800 pesos, the girl knows that is less money. We would be just as well off countering with $67 as 800 pesos. I've had several experiences when the girl has asked for $80 and my counter of 800 pesos has been refused. Same concept on the street, a $30 sin ropa offer would be made but a 300 peso sin ropa counter would be refused.

Mongers give too little credit to the girls' knowledge of exchange rates. They might not do the exact conversion, but they know $1 is worth more than 10 pesos.This is MX. If they don't like your final offer, walk. The zona is such a buyers market it's ridiculous. Everybody has to be ready to pull the plug on the deal. It seems to me that if more guys refused the inflated demands the prices would drop. Unfortunately, that's not how tourists think.

Whenever the girls grouse about pesos, I simply tell them that we are in Mexico. In Mexico we use pesos. Therefore, I have pesos, not dollars.

[GolfSexRroll]

Well whatever side you are in red or blue or in between. If you newbees insist on paying top dollar at least bust your first nut on a SG! You will be HORNY / excited= not likely too drunk and if you come fast (probably will) then later you can at least spend your $80 (or more) on a BG and get (some) value for your hard earned bankroll! Remember : "when your done they RUN!"

[Rippa]

Of course they know the exchange rate. Most pay for things in USD and some pay their rent in USD. Of course they like $. They have to convert pesos back to $. (lose money in exchange) But in Mexico you don't pay the asking price for anything. (always been this way). So if you can get a chica to go (for your price) more likely you will save in pesos (IMHO).Guys, especially you first timers, this is MEXICO we are talking about. Negotiating the price of EVERYTHING is a national past time. In fact, the girls will think you are a dim-witted chump if you don't 'work' on that first price offered, at least a little! GSR has it right here, and as someone else has commented on this thread, if you don't get the price you want, just walk away.

My God, boys, there must be 500 working girls between the streets and the bars in the Zona, and that's ON AN AVERAGE WEEK NIGHT! Don't be that blubbering, simpering 'ass-hat' who falls in love with a certain firm little penoche in HK or a silicone injected 'hyper-ass' in Adelitas and just has to have her, regardless of price. Do you think she'll bang you better because you paid her stupid, over-the-top first offer? No, in fact she'll secretly think you're a SAP. For the love of Pete, save yourself and everyone else a few bucks or pesos.

The Zona is designed to suck every damn dollar or peso out of your pocket before you head back across the border. EVERY DOLLAR. For Christ's sake do NOT make it easier for them for paying silly-ass prices for a romp. There are always more starfish in the sea if the price is over $60 in one of the top tier clubs, and much less elsewhere. And in the case of Tijuana, your next target is usually just a few feet away. She's already secretly watching you, and is quite ready to step right in if her 'sister' just blew it and priced herself out of the market.

Man Up here, Fellas!

[Reinaldo]

When Dubya was prez, gas was half what it is today.July 7, 2008—Crude oil prices settled-in at a new record of $147 per barrel. The USA average price for regular gasoline climbs to an all-time high of $4. 11 per gallon. Road trip style vacations are put on hold for many summer travelers.

http://www.treehugger.com/cars/2008-us-gas-price-year-in-review.html

[Efjayel]

[QUOTE=GolfSexRroll; 1414690]P4P in Mexico at MEXICO prices in Mexico money=pesos. You don't give MICKEY 1200+ pesos to ride "space mountain" so don't pay puntas in in dollars (if you can!).This is funny as hell. And would be even more so if you're honestly serious about this. My biggest reason for not wanting to use pesos, is the conversion process. Both of them, having to use up some of my time to convert the money to pesos and having to use my calculator or my head to convert pesos to dollar amounts to see if I'm not being overcharged for something.


July 7, 2008—Crude oil prices settled-in at a new record of $147 per barrel. The USA average price for regular gasoline climbs to an all-time high of $4. 11 per gallon. Road trip style vacations are put on hold for many summer travelers.

http://www.treehugger.com/cars/2008-us-gas-price-year-in-review.htmlYes exactly. A lot of you have forgotten that one of the main reasons Obama's presidency is going bad is because of how bad Dubya left things when he departed. I'm not sticking up for obo or anything as I think he's made some really wrong decisions himself.

[SBeach25]

Where do you get this kind of information. For a long time China has been the place for manufacturing, but do you see the shift to monterrey being big enough to battle economic dominance over China? I would think that it make sense to make that shift when you consider location and price, whatnot. When is the next time you are visiting Tijuana? Enlighten me your thoughts on economics and I will get you a bucket of beer. That's now on my bucket list, sharing thoughts about the future global economics while getting a grind on my lap with a beer in my hand. LOL. Let me know when you're in Tijuana next time, sb25.Will Mexico dominate over China? NO. China now has a sustainable economy where infrastructures are in place to meet their growing economy. My comment is regards to how america needs to seek cheaper labor and also logistics play a huge part of this. Mexico is a key player in NAFTA which is still in effect. I could go on but this is a place for mongering. LOL. A few bottles of beer? Sure! I'm more than happy to monger in Tijuana with a fellow member and sure I'd be happy to discuss economy and punta's at the same time. I'm down there tomorrow night!

[GolfSexRroll]

Guys, especially you first timers, this is MEXICO we are talking about. Negotiating the price of EVERYTHING is a national past time. In fact, the girls will think you are a dim-witted chump if you don't 'work' on that first price offered, at least a little! GSR has it right here, and as someone else has commented on this thread, if you don't get the price you want, just walk away.

My God, boys, there must be 500 working girls between the streets and the bars in the Zona, and that's ON AN AVERAGE WEEK NIGHT! Don't be that blubbering, simpering 'ass-hat' who falls in love with a certain firm little penoche in HK or a silicone injected 'hyper-ass' in Adelitas and just has to have her, regardless of price. Do you think she'll bang you better because you paid her stupid, over-the-top first offer? No, in fact she'll secretly think you're a SAP. For the love of Pete, save yourself and everyone else a few bucks or pesos.

The Zona is designed to suck every damn dollar or peso out of your pocket before you head back across the border. EVERY DOLLAR. For Christ's sake do NOT make it easier for them for paying silly-ass prices for a romp. There are always more starfish in the sea if the price is over $60 in one of the top tier clubs, and much less elsewhere. And in the case of Tijuana, your next target is usually just a few feet away. She's already secretly watching you, and is quite ready to step right in if her 'sister' just blew it and priced herself out of the market.

Man Up here, Fellas!I could not of said it better! Thank You Rippa.

[AmanteDeLatina]

This board is not a political board. If you want to discuss politics, there are plenty of boards on the internet that do that. I think all Democratic, Republican, Libertarian and Independent straight men will agree on one thing: We all like pussy! Lets talk about Tijuana pussy!