General Reports

[WanderingMan]

This same thread Post #10486.Thanks. The map surprised me. I stay in Zona Central and walk to Zona Norte all the way down Avenue Constitucion during daylight. Mostly see families including the elderly and children. There are far fewer beggars and pick-pockets on Constitucion than Revolucion in my experiences.

[WanderingMan]

Is anyone else going to be there for Cinco de Mayo? Any festivals or events worth taking in during the celebration?

[Phordphan]

Thanks. The map surprised me. I stay in Zona Central and walk to Zona Norte all the way down Avenue Constitucion during daylight. Mostly see families including the elderly and children. There are far fewer beggars and pick-pockets on Constitucion than Revolucion in my experiences.The map is out of date. That part of Constitucion is fine, especially during the day.

[Baxter Slade]

Is anyone else going to be there for Cinco de Mayo? Any festivals or events worth taking in during the celebration?Believe it or not the celebrations for cinco de mayo are bigger in the USA Than in Mexico. The bigger celebration of independence in Mexico occurs in the middle of September.

[Jackie888]

Is anyone else going to be there for Cinco de Mayo? Any festivals or events worth taking in during the celebration?They go ape shit whenever their local Soccer Team plays. It's almost like a national holiday.

[BayBoy]

I have a question for you Tijuana mongers. On Sat. April 18 I got to the border at 5 AM and it took me 1 hour and 15 min. To cross over to the US side. Is that good or bad.

The other thing is these cabbies charge me $7 to go from my hotel in Tijuana to the border in the early morning hours. Is that right?

[Baxter Slade]

I have a question for you Tijuana mongers. On Sat. April 18 I got to the border at 5 AM and it took me 1 hour and 15 min. To cross over to the US side. Is that good or bad.

The other thing is these cabbies charge me $7 to go from my hotel in Tijuana to the border in the early morning hours. Is that right?The border crossing times can really vary. But it sounds like you didn't get there early enough to avoid the people going to work in the USA.

As far as what you paid for the taxi, that would depend on where your hotel was. If you were coming from Centro or Zona Norte or Zona Rio should have been $3 to $5 . However if the hotel ordered you a cab instead of you going to the street and flagging one down, you will be charged more.

[BayBoy]

The border crossing times can really vary. But it sounds like you didn't get there early enough to avoid the people going to work in the USA.

As far as what you paid for the taxi, that would depend on where your hotel was. If you were coming from Centro or Zona Norte or Zona Rio should have been $3 to $5 . However if the hotel ordered you a cab instead of you going to the street and flagging one down, you will be charged more.Gracias you answered my taxi-cabbie question. Some take $6 to the border. Got to get to the border earlier.

[LaterGreen]

This bitcoin ATM map says there's a bitcoin ATM in Tijuana:

I'm planning to use my regular ATM card for most of my Tijuana spending, but what if I want to really go lavish and spend more than my bank will let me withdraw in a single day?

I'm thinking to just put some money into a bitcoin wallet and draw out the cash in Tijuana.

Has anyone tried this strategy before? Can anyone verify that they were able to get cash from the above noted Bitcoin ATM?

What other strategies do mongers use to get access to their funds while in Tijuana?

Thanks!

[LaterGreen]

On Sat. April 18 I got to the border at 5 AM and it took me 1 hour and 15 min. To cross over to the US side. Is that good or bad.I am finding this site to be handy for my trip planning:

http://traffic.calit2.net/border/border-wait-times.php?type=pedestrian&sub=standard&port=250401

[Artisttyp]

The other thing is these cabbies charge me $7 to go from my hotel in Tijuana to the border in the early morning hours. Is that right?Your hotel charged you that rate because they use a special car service for safety and off hours concerns. Also the guys at the desk get a little kick back from the drivers or else the front desk won't call them again.

A fair price is $5 plus $1 tip. I usually have luggage so no complaints from me.

[ClamSlammer]

Your hotel charged you that rate because they use a special car service for safety and off hours concerns. Also the guys at the desk get a little kick back from the drivers or else the front desk won't call them again.

A fair price is $5 plus $1 tip. I usually have luggage so no complaints from me.That's way too much if you flag a cab off the street. You'll look like a sucker if you pay that. Assuming the hotel is in ZN or centro, pay $3 or $50 mn total. Don't tip taxi drivers. Locals NEVER tip the cabbie.

[Member #4450]

I have a question for you Tijuana mongers. On Sat. April 18 I got to the border at 5 AM and it took me 1 hour and 15 min. To cross over to the US side. Is that good or bad.

The other thing is these cabbies charge me $7 to go from my hotel in Tijuana to the border in the early morning hours. Is that right?If you Hotel was in Zona Norte you got overcharged but sometimes you pay a little more when outside the zona. I think your waiting time way too long I never cross in the morning hours next time try after 7 Pm.

[Artisttyp]

That's way too much if you flag a cab off the street. You can always flag a cab off the street. That was't the point. If you want the hotel to secure a cab for you during off hours the rate will be different than getting one yourself on the street. For a little more money you get just a little more security. As a frequent taker of taxis at off hours I prefer to call someone I know.

*There is nothing wrong with tipping someone who lifts my luggage for me.

[Jackie888]

Anybody have any positive experience with it. In the 16 + years of going to Tijuana, have yet to go in and pick one out. They seem to be the more conservative ladies. If that is possible. LOL.I generally hang out here when it's too damn late & crowded in HK and Adelitas. Here I only found about 20% of the girls to be attractive. The girls are very laid back. On the other hand I have 3 favorites and 2 waiters here who I consider to be good friends and would likely bail me out of jail if need be (knock on wood). It's not a place to go and pick one out. Think of it as a place to wind down before heading back. And if you find someone you like, its a bonus. And yeah, the ladies are more conservative in the bars.

[LaterGreen]

I'm planning to use my regular ATM card for most of my Tijuana spending, but what if I want to really go lavish and spend more than my bank will let me withdraw in a single day?
(...)What other strategies do mongers use to get access to their funds while in Tijuana?According to this website, you only need to declare if you are taking $10,000 into the country, which is way richer than my blood.

http://www.ehow.com/facts_7156616_there-spending-money-can-mexico_.html

Suppose I have like $500 or $1,000 in cash when I cross the border. I won't have to declare it but should I be concerned?

[Phordphan]

According to this website, you only need to declare if you are taking $10,000 into the country, which is way richer than my blood.

http://www.ehow.com/facts_7156616_there-spending-money-can-mexico_.html

Suppose I have like $500 or $1,000 in cash when I cross the border. I won't have to declare it but should I be concerned?Concerned in what way? The US doesn't care. The MX gov't doesn't care. No need for concern in that regard.

However, carrying a lot of cash in a dicey part of town, aka The Zona, may not be the best idea. Try carrying only as much as you'll need. If you have a hotel room with a safe, use it. If it's just a day trip, take as much as you think you'll need, plus, say, $20 for emergency. Leave a $20 in the car to pay your parking, just in case you somehow manage to leave all your money in MX. Do not ask how I know this.

[Phordphan]

Can anybody provide some intel on this place?

I ran across it a while back, and I've seen one or two mentions of it here, but nothing substantial.

How's the parking situation? It is quiet enough to get some sleep, or does its proximity to the bars preclude that? How are the beds? What's checkout time?

Thanks in advance!

[Artisttyp]

Can anybody provide some intel on this place?

I ran across it a while back, and I've seen one or two mentions of it here, but nothing substantial.

How's the parking situation? It is quiet enough to get some sleep, or does its proximity to the bars preclude that? How are the beds? What's checkout time?

Thanks in advance!Lots of info about this place on the other Tijuana Forum. I've gone there to see it myself.

On Calle Primera next to Tranny Alley.

Inside Noise can be an issue due to doors facing a hallway that echoes.

Junior Suite can be had for roughly $50. Although very often taken.

Chicas should be no problem.

Hold onto your receipt. I've read about mgmt. Errors.

Some sex workers live there.

The consensus is for one or two nights its ok but maybe not longer than that.

[ClamSlammer]

According to this website, you only need to declare if you are taking $10,000 into the country, which is way richer than my blood.

http://www.ehow.com/facts_7156616_there-spending-money-can-mexico_.html

Suppose I have like $500 or $1,000 in cash when I cross the border. I won't have to declare it but should I be concerned?You will not have problems crossing back to SY with $500 to $1000. Anything under $2-3 k is nothing to them. Maybe over $5 k they'll ask some questions but with a couple grand or less they won't even question it.

[Elmo5743]

I didn't see anywhere where I can make an upcoming trip report announcement, however haven't been to Tijuana mongering in years and happen to have tomorrow afternoon / evening off, want to be back on this side of the border by about 8 PM, will be down there about 2 ish, anybody going to be down there, I will buy the beer, you show me around. Any ideas for good afternoon mongering?

[Captain Solo]

Go to hotel Mini on second floor and ask for Tijuana's 2015 beauty queen, I. E. [CodeWord100] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord100) Man Doo's girl friend.

She's there ready for service 24 hours a day.


I didn't see anywhere where I can make an upcoming trip report announcement, however haven't been to Tijuana mongering in years and happen to have tomorrow afternoon / evening off, want to be back on this side of the border by about 8 PM, will be down there about 2 ish, anybody going to be down there, I will buy the beer, you show me around. Any ideas for good afternoon mongering?

[Phordphan]

Lots of info about this place on the other Tijuana Forum. I've gone there to see it myself.

On Calle Primera next to Tranny Alley.

Inside Noise can be an issue due to doors facing a hallway that echoes.

Junior Suite can be had for roughly $50. Although very often taken.

Chicas should be no problem.

Hold onto your receipt. I've read about mgmt. Errors.

Some sex workers live there.

The consensus is for one or two nights its ok but maybe not longer than that.Thanks! I tried booking a room on their web site, but that has to be the worst site ever. You can't confirm room availability, so I guess you just pay and hope.

The other sites, booking.com, etc. , all want $10 more for the suite. That may be worth it in order to get a confirmation. Who knows?

Usually my company and I like to walk from the hotel to party spots in Centro, then back at night. I've driven by the place during the day, and at night the area is kind of sketchy. I think I'll stick with my humdrum regular place. It's boring but has a great location.

The frigging Ticuan is $1250 per night on the weekends now. I like the place but it's really not worth $100 per night.

[Member #4450]

Am I the only unlucky one that lives 3 hours away from Tijuana? Do you all guys are living in San Diego County? Any OC or LA say Here!

[Jackie888]

Am I the only unlucky one that lives 3 hours away from Tijuana? Do you all guys are living in San Diego County? Any OC or LA say Here!1. 5 hours on a clean drive. 3 hours in traffic. Oceanside traffic often kicks my ass.

[Baxter Slade]

The frigging Ticuan is $1250 per night on the weekends now. I like the place but it's really not worth $100 per night.I was hoping to stay at the Ticuan this Saturday night for the fight night. But I was under the assumption the Hotel part has not reopened since the fire. If you found rooms there on some site let me know. I have been checking Hotels com and it has been showing no availability.

[Rippa]

Anybody have any positive experience with it. In the 16 + years of going to Tijuana, have yet to go in and pick one out. They seem to be the more conservative ladies. If that is possible. LOL.I sure don't know about 'conservative girls', but I personally like the place and recommend everyone give it a try. There's an entire thread dedicated to the Tropical Bar on this forum, and the vibe is much different than HK, AB, etc. More of a laid back, dance with the chicas kind of place (they like that!) But you certainly can go arriba as well. I find many of the chicas can be as attractive as the HK girls, (YMMV) if not a bit more naive and shy at times. I've heard it's where many FOB's start out in the Zona and some go on to HK Club. If you are staying at the Cascadas you can take a TB girl there as well. Same owner.

One of the best Anal Queens I ever found in Mexico was in this bar a few years ago -- only a 7 looks wise, but that girl was up for any and everything.

It might not be everyone's cup of tea, but I believe any interested Punter should give it a try. Then again, I like to try them all, Playboy, Chicago, etc.

[The Creaper]

Thanks! I tried booking a room on their web site, but that has to be the worst site ever. You can't confirm room availability, so I guess you just pay and hope.

The other sites, booking.com, etc. , all want $10 more for the suite. That may be worth it in order to get a confirmation. Who knows?

Usually my company and I like to walk from the hotel to party spots in Centro, then back at night. I've driven by the place during the day, and at night the area is kind of sketchy. I think I'll stick with my humdrum regular place. It's boring but has a great location.

The frigging Ticuan is $1250 per night on the weekends now. I like the place but it's really not worth $100 per night.I've stayed here a couple times. It's not bad, you can get a room for roughly $35. Jessica is the girl at the front desk and pretty nice. If your going on a weekend I would advise getting there by mid afternoon both Friday / Saturday.

[SportMongr]

Am I the only unlucky one that lives 3 hours away from Tijuana? Do you all guys are living in San Diego County? Any OC or LA say Here!I think most of Tijuana party go'ers are obviously SD and LA people. I would assume those numbers hold up a bit here too. Sort of like the hoards of Aussies in Asia:) and takes me close 2.5 hours no traffic....3 hrs. Is a good day time drive

[SportMongr]

Yeap, that's what I said in my previous posts the zona is getting hot, good to know the military is around.I read posts of "red alert" walker beware. And then posts from frequent travelers that Tijuana's no different then any other major city. Good thing there isn't a quiz at the end of the week.

[GolfSexRroll]

I read posts of "red alert" walker beware. And then posts from frequent travelers that Tijuana's no different then any other major city. Good thing there isn't a quiz at the end of the week.What the fuck is "red alert?" I live in SD. I take the trolley down. I walk to the Zona day and night, sometimes 2 times a week. I have lived in Several large cities. I have less fear in Tijuana. I keep my head on a swivel. I do not drink. I walk with a purpose. I ask again, what the fuck is "red alert?' Are the "commies" coming? Are the Baltimore Riots creeping into Mexico?

[Phordphan]

I was hoping to stay at the Ticuan this Saturday night for the fight night. But I was under the assumption the Hotel part has not reopened since the fire. If you found rooms there on some site let me know. I have been checking Hotels com and it has been showing no availability.I just looked at the prices and didn't try to book. But I did, just now, try to make a reservation. That part of the site doesn't appear to work at all. So, they probably haven't reopened.

[Jackie888]

I read posts of "red alert" walker beware. And then posts from frequent travelers that Tijuana's no different then any other major city. Good thing there isn't a quiz at the end of the week.Bottom line is that a street is safe if there is (1) a strong police patrol, or (2) a lot of people especially the elderly and families. Generally, the Zona is the most dangerous neighbohood in Tijuana. However some streets (see above) is far safer than others. Somone put up a map earlier. While not 100%, it is still usuable. BTW this are for bandits. Police shakedowns is a different issue.

[Phordphan]

Just to prove that I post a TR from time to time, here's an old one. It's from a couple of weeks back, just before I left for SEA.

I played hooky on a Friday and set up dates with two CL faves, Ms. Scatterbrain and Rocky the Flying Squirrel. Ms. S was on the night shift that day, so she had her afternoon free.

I picked her up at the usual spot, then we made our way, in heavy traffic, to La Mansion.

After a few minutes of catching up I stood up to stretch. I hugged her, we kissed, then the next thing I knew my pants were around my ankles and she was blowing me for all she was worth. Apparently she had been suffering from that terrible Hawaiian disease, Lakkanukkie.

After a few minutes I hobbled to the bed and got undressed, as did she. Then she attacked again. She alternated between very competent BJ and CG, with lots of lewd commentary mixed in. Nice.

After a couple of cycles she stopped, kicked me off the bed, hopped off herself, rested her elbows on the bed and said "I whant joo to fuck my ass!" Well, who was I to argue?

When she had had enough she stopped, yanked off the condom, put me onto my back and resumed the BJ. Next she flipped over and we went at it in mish for a while, with her continuing her lewd pep talks. I was finally getting close to finishing when she said "I whant joo to cum in my face. " Hmm, OK. Why not? So, I unloaded a week, or so, of pent-up goo all over her smooth cheeks. She really seemed to enjoy it.

After regaining our breath, and a good shower, it was getting a bit late. We'd been at it for about 2 hours. So, we went off to her favorite taco stand, then she headed to the rutas to go to work. I headed off to meet Rocky, which is another story for another time.

Total damage - 340 for the room, 800 for her, less then 100 for tacos and sodas. Tijuana is such a bargain.

[TomJackin]

Total damage - 340 for the room, 800 for her, less then 100 for tacos and sodas. Tijuana is such a bargain.Thanks for the always entertaining reports.

BTW, the Ticuan rooms are still closed, I heard maybe August.

[Member #4450]

I was under pressure and needed to release I go to check LA backpage I see this cute little spinner latina was running especial, so I called her I asked for the 30 min she said 120 I said done deal.

She told me to drive to the Hotel I got there and I called twice I was ready to leave she text me and told me come to room number x.

I go there she opens the door the girl looked like she went to hell and back and fucking tattoos on her body yuck!. The smoke of weed was overwhelming on her and in the room I asked her are you the girl on the picture she said yes, she didn't like my question and told me I should go. WTF with this girl the pictures were before she got into the business because she look like shit in person.

Anyway I left I was still looking for another girl I found another latina great body I called no answer, again and she finally text me and told me 140 for 30 min my dick said it was a great deal NO it wasn't, I got to the hotel I called once, twice third and final she text me with the most stupid bullshit ever. She said that got a family emergency Grandpa just died and she couldn't see me now, same hotel same place I'm sure the 2 latinas were working together.

Then she told me her friend was available to see me I say WTF no switch and bait and I went home.

All the work for nothing, good thing I still have my 140 for next week Tijuana trip.

[The Tall Man]

Am I the only unlucky one that lives 3 hours away from Tijuana? Do you all guys are living in San Diego County? Any OC or LA say Here!Yep, LA dude here too! I usually expect a 3. 5 hour drive, sometimes more, usually less all depending on traffic and accidents.

The Tall Man.

[SportMongr]

What the fuck is "red alert?" I live in SD. I take the trolley down. I walk to the Zona day and night, sometimes 2 times a week. I have lived in Several large cities. I have less fear in Tijuana. I keep my head on a swivel. I do not drink. I walk with a purpose. I ask again, what the fuck is "red alert?' Are the "commies" coming? Are the Baltimore Riots creeping into Mexico?LOL. That's the good news!! The rupee is being crushed and all the russian mongers are being forced back to Russia!! Thank you Putin!! They are more of a problem on the a eastern side of the world. Not Tijuana, I was referring to the red coded streets on the map. But I can tell from your posts. No Tijuana ratero wants to rumble with the sexygolf and roll:) I'm glad you are beating the odds.

[Member #4450]

Yep, LA dude here too! I usually expect a 3. 5 hour drive, sometimes more, usually less all depending on traffic and accidents.

The Tall Man.I feel your pain Tall Man, Lucky San Diegan bastards. :)

[GolfSexRroll]

I was under pressure and needed to release I go to check LA backpage I see this cute little spinner latina was running especial, so I called her I asked for the 30 min she said 120 I said done deal.

She told me to drive to the Hotel I got there and I called twice I was ready to leave she text me and told me come to room number x.

I go there she opens the door the girl looked like she went to hell and back and fucking tattoos on her body yuck!. The smoke of weed was overwhelming on her and in the room I asked her are you the girl on the picture she said yes, she didn't like my question and told me I should go. WTF with this girl the pictures were before she got into the business because she look like shit in person.

Anyway I left I was still looking for another girl I found another latina great body I called no answer, again and she finally text me and told me 140 for 30 min my dick said it was a great deal NO it wasn't, I got to the hotel I called once, twice third and final she text me with the most stupid bullshit ever. She said that got a family emergency Grandpa just died and she couldn't see me now, same hotel same place I'm sure the 2 latinas were working together.

Then she told me her friend was available to see me I say WTF no switch and bait and I went home.

All the work for nothing, good thing I still have my 140 for next week Tijuana trip.I don't get your logic. You want to spend $120 to $140 on a chica SIGHT UNSEEN for 30 min? Why don't you go to HK and overspend your money on a HOT chica, you can actually talk to and see what you are getting. I'm sure you can get the hottest one in the bar for those inflated prices!

[Captain Solo]

It's very difficult to find good-looking girls in Backpage. These girls are notoriously unreliable.

They would give the guys run around and keep 3 or 4 guys waiting, so they can finish with one guy before sending up the next. They usually look much worse than the pics they use, some with so many piercing, tattoos and skin lesions, it's obvious they are heavy drug users.

The very few I decided to fuck are usually overweight, most times I had no idea where my dick was the whole time. Sex with them is very unsatisfying.

I did find a few good-looking ones. They are so overworked in their tiny hotel rooms that they are booked solid all day, all night. Their skins are always sweaty and grimy and the rooms smell bad. Then they are usually rotated to other cities after a few weeks.

There have been many police sting using Backpage, so be very careful. The most popular sting time is Friday after work when the guys get paid and want to dip their dicks into something. Avoid your Friday urge.

Living in San Diego is very nice. The guys from LA should try to partner up carpooling. I used to do it with a couple guys either Friday or Saturday after work. It takes a lot of stress and boredom out of the driving.


I was under pressure and needed to release I go to check LA backpage I see this cute little spinner latina was running especial, so I called her I asked for the 30 min she said 120 I said done deal.

She told me to drive to the Hotel I got there and I called twice I was ready to leave she text me and told me come to room number x.

I go there she opens the door the girl looked like she went to hell and back and fucking tattoos on her body yuck!. The smoke of weed was overwhelming on her and in the room I asked her are you the girl on the picture she said yes, she didn't like my question and told me I should go. WTF with this girl the pictures were before she got into the business because she look like shit in person.

Anyway I left I was still looking for another girl I found another latina great body I called no answer, again and she finally text me and told me 140 for 30 min my dick said it was a great deal NO it wasn't, I got to the hotel I called once, twice third and final she text me with the most stupid bullshit ever. She said that got a family emergency Grandpa just died and she couldn't see me now, same hotel same place I'm sure the 2 latinas were working together...

[Phordphan]

I don't get your logic. You want to spend $120 to $140 on a chica SIGHT UNSEEN for 30 min? Why don't you go to HK and overspend your money on a HOT chica, you can actually talk to and see what you are getting. I'm sure you can get the hottest one in the bar for those inflated prices!Probably trying to avoid the 6 hour round-trip. I can appreciate that, but after reading his experience I think a party with Manuela and her sisters, until one can make the trip, sounds preferable. :D

[GolfSexRroll]

Probably trying to avoid the 6 hour round-trip. I can appreciate that, but after reading his experience I think a party with Manuela and her sisters, until one can make the trip, sounds preferable. :DYes I guess this is true. I forget how easy it is to rush to the zona it is for me. I am spoiled. You do what you need to do. It sucks though.

[Jackie888]

Anyone tried public transportation from the LA / OC? Never done it myself.

Yesterday (Thursday) was great. I just found the love of my life in HK. I tell her I want to take her home with me, she smiled ans said she already has a home. I tell her she looks smart. She tells me that's because she is smart. When a waiter tried to sell us a drink, she brushed him off like an insect. Smart as a whip, a heart of gold, and MEGA TATTAS bigger than my hands. I'm so in love with her. Our minds could not agree to a reasonable price, partially because the threesome I had earlier took most of my money. This is what I hate about myself, I blow my money on meaningless sex and when I find the One, I'm out. I asked her to marry me. Instead of rejecting me (like that cold hearted ***** Tiffany) she tells me that I wouldnt want to marry her because she's a bad girl. OMG, "how bad?" I'm thinking. I'm now having all sorts of romantic threesome fantasies with her and her girlfriend. I love her so much, I taking her to bed the next time Im in town.

Took the HK VIP limosine back to the border, which is actually an SUV. Got stopped by what I thought was a police checkpoint East of CoHuillo. I think to myself, good thing my money is all gone. We get closer and its the Mexican Marines. Platoon size. I had Marines in front in a blocking position, and more Marines down the street to my left, and to my right. They apparently commandeered several Muni Policia Vehicles, and brought along machine gunned SUV of their own to set up a pocket checkpoint. Scared the shit out of my driver. They were definitely searching for a high profiled perp my driver said. If you guys are visiting, I would advise you ask your taxi driver to go South on Heroes instead of East on CoHuillo to get back to the border.

[Captain Solo]

Greyhound bus picks up from LA and OC about every hours, 3 hours from La, 2 hours from OC. Last bus returns from San Ysidro about 1 AM. The Mexican bus line Crucero sells special discount tickets for $1 through Greyhound site:

Crucero $1 to San Ysidro.

Santa Ana Greyhound STA.

1000 E Santa Ana BLVD.

STE 105.

Santa Ana, CA 92701.

Main: (714) 542-2215.

Baggage: (714) 542-3924.

Greyhound Package Express: (714) 542-3924.

Bus leaving San Ysidro every hour until 11:30 PM on Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday:

http://www.intercalifornias.com/sanysidro.htm

Transportes Intercalifornias.

1000 East Santa Ana Boulevard.

Santa Ana, CA 92701-3900.

(714) 569-0040.

I have seen road blocks with lots of cops / troops on Coahuila East bound a few times. I usually drive via the back streets to the Purple Rain, avoiding Coahuila.

Who's the smart girl with big boobs? 2 of my wingmen spent all their money on HK girls and went broke. They spoke virtually no Spanish and could not communicate with the girls. Not sure how they fell in love.


Anyone tried public transportation from the LA / OC? Never done it myself.

Yesterday (Thursday) was great. I just found the love of my life in HK. I tell her I want to take her home with me, she smiled ans said she already has a home. I tell her she looks smart. She tells me that's because she is smart. When a waiter tried to sell us a drink, she brushed him off like an insect. Smart as a whip, a heart of gold, and MEGA TATTAS bigger than my hands. I'm so in love with her. Our minds could not agree to a reasonable price, partially because the threesome I had earlier took most of my money. This is what I hate about myself, I blow my money on meaningless sex and when I find the One, I'm out. I asked her to marry me. Instead of rejecting me (like that cold hearted ***** Tiffany) she tells me that I wouldnt want to marry her because she's a bad girl. OMG, "how bad?" I'm thinking. I'm now having all sorts of romantic threesome fantasies with her and her girlfriend...

[Exoticspirit]

Several years ago while on a trip to San Diego area, I spent an afternoon in Tijuana. I walked across the border at about noon on a weekday following the crowd, then walked across the pedestrian bridge and over to ZN. I talk a quick stroll around the area and finaly ended up in Adelita Bar. After my time there, I walked back over the bridge and across the border at about 4:30 pm.

The entire afternoon was easy and I encountered no problems or issues at all. I am going back to San Diego and planning to spend a night in Tijuana this September. Reading recent reports of police issues here have me concerned and I want to avoid them the best I can.

I will be crossing the border on a Wednesday morning this time and spending the night there, probably at Cascadas. Then I'll be returning back to San Diego by early afternoon the Thursday so I'll miss the weekend crowd. So I'm pretty sure that other than the police, I normally would not have any problems with the walk from the border and back during the morning to early afternoon hours on weekdays.

I do not drink alcohol nor do any drugs so there's no hope in hell that police would ever catch me intoxicated or anything. I'm super clean on that regard.

I am willing to spend my entire time in Tijuana for this trip at Cascadas and HK. I may take a stroll in the alleys to see the view of the streetgirls and might pop into Adelitas, Tropicana and Chicago just for the heck of it but only if it's considered low risk of getting hassled by the police. Otherwise, I don't really need to go out other than to eat.

I would also like to stroll along the main tourist street for a bit before I cross the border back to the USA.

So given this short itinerary, what would be the best strategy to avoid the police?

Are they problems mainly in the ZN area or on the main tourist street (Revolution) as well?

Should I take cabs to and from the border this time?

Would the HK VIP card be of any benefit to me given that I'm staying only the Wednesday night and can do without any alcoholic beverages for my entire trip?

Thanks in advance for comments / suggestions.

[Jackie888]

Wing, I forgot this girl's HK name. But she said that she has been here for only 3 months. Definitely educated as she spoke pefect formal English albeit with a slight accent. If it weren't for her tatas, I would have mistaken her for a diplomat. She is actually heading off for professional school soon. I so much regret not spending more quality time together. She is very curvy and now may be the best time before she chunks up considering the rich Mexican diet.

Exospirit, if you stay on the main tourist path and stay in crowds, you should have no problems. The roadblock wasnt even manned with police. They were Mexican Marines. Fully armored and heavily armed. I wasnt concern with a shakedown as I was with being caught in the middle of a violent arrest of a Cartel member.

[ScatManDoo]

Several years ago while on a trip to San Diego area, I spent an afternoon in Tijuana. I walked across the border at about noon on a weekday following the crowd, then walked across the pedestrian bridge and over to ZN. I talk a quick stroll around the area and finaly ended up in Adelita Bar. After my time there, I walked back over the bridge and across the border at about 4:30 pm.

The entire afternoon was easy and I encountered no problems or issues at all. I am going back to San Diego and planning to spend a night in Tijuana this September. Reading recent reports of police issues here have me concerned and I want to avoid them the best I can.

I will be crossing the border on a Wednesday morning this time and spending the night there, probably at Cascadas. Then I'll be returning back to San Diego by early afternoon the Thursday so I'll miss the weekend crowd. So I'm pretty sure that other than the police, I normally would not have any problems with the walk from the border and back during the morning to early afternoon hours on weekdays.

I do not drink alcohol nor do any drugs so there's no hope in hell that police would ever catch me intoxicated or anything. I'm super clean on that regard.s.You should be relatively safe with your current plans.

You might rethink your planned visit to Chicago Club. The talent there is not as good as it was in prior years.

And a group of 'grab 'and go' teenage rateros have been lately hanging around the crossroads (that's a nickname for the intersection of Coahuila & Constitution).

These young rateros have recently been been hanging out in front of the Karoke Bar and / or the Tecate beer store looking for preoccupied potential victims.

In walking from Coahuila to Revolution I would recommend strolling on 2nd street or the Santa Cecilia diagonal instead of Coahuila Ave. Or Primera (1st St.).

The prior poster suggested instructing your taxi driver to take Nino Heroes south from LZ instead of going east on Coahuila.

Now that Nino Heroes is closed to auto traffic from 1st street to 2nd street, your cabbie may be hesitant to travel far enough east to use that alternative exit from LZ.

The VIP card will save you only 20% on your Wednesday night Cascades hotel room plus the cab ride back to the border and one $4 non-alcoholic drink in HK every 24 hours. You could also use it for a slightly extended amount of time in a S / T Cascades rooms immediately before or after your planned 24-hour stay. The HK VIP card cost $50 or 650 pesos and is only good for 4 months.

So unless you plan to make another visit to La Zona within that four month period, it will likely cost you more cash than it will save.

[Captain Solo]

Looks like you found yourself a Mexican scholar, who's destined for a Nobel prize in Sex.

It's scary the fire power that cartels have to fight Mexican troops with. Besides assault rifles, they are known to have 0.50 caliber machine guns and grenade launchers. They are equipped to take down tanks and armored carriers.

Nobody knows when or where the cartels will decide to ambush the troops. It would be a big problem to get caught in the crossfire. It's best to avoid going near these troops and their road blocks.

China would probably be itching at exporting more drugs and weapons to Mexico to create more problems and instability.


Wing, I forgot this girl's HK name. But she said that she has been here for only 3 months. Definitely educated as she spoke pefect formal English albeit with a slight accent. If it weren't for her tatas, I would have mistaken her for a diplomat. She is actually heading off for professional school soon. I so much regret not spending more quality time together. She is very curvy and now may be the best time before she chunks up considering the rich Mexican diet.

Exospirit, if you stay on the main tourist path and stay in crowds, you should have no problems. The roadblock wasnt even manned with police. They were Mexican Marines. Fully armored and heavily armed. I wasnt concern with a shakedown as I was with being caught in the middle of a violent arrest of a Cartel member.

[The Creaper]

Several years ago while on a trip to San Diego area, I spent an afternoon in Tijuana. I walked across the border at about noon on a weekday following the crowd, then walked across the pedestrian bridge and over to ZN. I talk a quick stroll around the area and finaly ended up in Adelita Bar. After my time there, I walked back over the bridge and across the border at about 4:30 pm.

The entire afternoon was easy and I encountered no problems or issues at all. I am going back to San Diego and planning to spend a night in Tijuana this September. Reading recent reports of police issues here have me concerned and I want to avoid them the best I can.

I will be crossing the border on a Wednesday morning this time and spending the night there, probably at Cascadas. Then I'll be returning back to San Diego by early afternoon the Thursday so I'll miss the weekend crowd. So I'm pretty sure that other than the police, I normally would not have any problems with the walk from the border and back during the morning to early afternoon hours on weekdays.

I do not drink alcohol nor do any drugs so there's no hope in hell that police would ever catch me intoxicated or anything. I'm super clean on that regard.

I am willing to spend my entire time in Tijuana for this trip at Cascadas and HK. I may take a stroll in the alleys to see the view of the streetgirls and might pop into Adelitas, Tropicana and Chicago just for the heck of it but only if it's considered low risk of getting hassled by the police. Otherwise, I don't really need to go out other than to eat...Avoid eye contact with police at all costs. If you have good periferal vision you will see them slow down and wait for eye contact. If I see them I take my cell phone out and pretend to be messaging or reading.

The only time I have been stopped is when I have made eye contact. I have not been stopped since this routine.

Let me know how it works for you.

GL

[Jackie888]

Not sure about the eye contact avoidance thing. I have always made eye contact and a give a "nod" as to greet them here in the states as well as in Mexico and I have not been stopped. If you act tough, its trouble. But if you act suspicious and avoid eye contact, its probably trouble too. Somewhere in between while acting "normal" is probably best.

Anyways I think that the recent spike in security is a response to the recent downing of a military chopper by the Cartel in Jelisco. The military lost 3 confirmed and 4 more probable. There is a little war going on with the New Generation Cartel which is trying to reach out to other criminal organizations. Sort of like a face book friend of tge criminal world.

[Exoticspirit]

You might rethink your planned visit to Chicago Club. The talent there is not as good as it was in prior years.

And a group of 'grab 'and go' teenage rateros have been lately hanging around the crossroads (that's a nickname for the intersection of Coahuila & Constitution).

These young rateros have recently been been hanging out in front of the Karoke Bar and / or the Tecate beer store looking for preoccupied potential victims.

The VIP card will save you only 20% on your Wednesday night Cascades hotel room plus the cab ride back to the border and one $4 non-alcoholic drink in HK every 24 hours. You could also use it for a slightly extended amount of time in a S / T Cascades rooms immediately before or after your planned 24-hour stay. The HK VIP card cost $50 or 650 pesos and is only good for 4 months.

So unless you plan to make another visit to La Zona within that four month period, it will likely cost you more cash than it will save.Thanks for your feedback. I don't need to go to the Chicago Club. It's just that I've never actually been there so it would be more like a quick walk in, then walk out so I can say that I've been there. By the time I'm walking around, if I do at all, I won't have much on me for anyone to grab.

And yes, I do not plan to return to Tijuana anytime soon after that since I'm up in Ontario, Canada and will want to travel to other destinations for the next few years before returning to southern CA.

[Exoticspirit]

Avoid eye contact with police at all costs. If you have good periferal vision you will see them slow down and wait for eye contact. If I see them I take my cell phone out and pretend to be messaging or reading.

The only time I have been stopped is when I have made eye contact. I have not been stopped since this routine.

Let me know how it works for you.

GLThanks for your feedback. If I walk around at all, it will likely be during daytime hours and I can put on sunglasses. For my only night there, I plan to be at HK and Cascadas for most of the time. If I check the back alley, I will probably opt for the back door of HK.

[Exoticspirit]

Not sure about the eye contact avoidance thing. I have always made eye contact and a give a "nod" as to greet them here in the states as well as in Mexico and I have not been stopped. If you act tough, its trouble. But if you act suspicious and avoid eye contact, its probably trouble too. Somewhere in between while acting "normal" is probably best.I would have actually thought the same thing. If I am sober (which I plan to be since I won't be drinking) and drug free, I thought that even a friendly 'hola' like I'm any standard tourist would result in a better situation.

[MileHigher]

So where is everyone watching the fight tonight? No rooms to be found anywhere it seems, but seems that the "A" team of chicas should be out tonight. PM me for more contact.

[The Creaper]

I would have actually thought the same thing. If I am sober (which I plan to be since I won't be drinking) and drug free, I thought that even a friendly 'hola' like I'm any standard tourist would result in a better situation.Never tried the friendly hola or wave over the last year. The looking like your more interested to your cell phone has been working for me for the last year. Don't even want to take a chance of looking at the creeps. Whatever works for ya is best. Ignoring has worked best for me since making eye contact with them.

[Exoticspirit]

Don't even want to take a chance of looking at the creeps. Whatever works for ya is best. Ignoring has worked best for me since making eye contact with them.Since I did it last time, I initially had no reservations about walking to and from the border again during the daytime hours. But this time around, I'll be carrying a backpack as part of my carry on luggage and it may draw unnecessary attention from the cops. So because of this, I think I use cabs from the border to Cascadas where I'll dump my backpack. On my return trip to the border, I think I'll take a cab from Cascadas to the main tourist street where I'll look around for a bit. I'm guessing that even with a backpack, I should be okay walking from the main tourist drag to the border during midday.

[ScatManDoo]

Since I did it last time, I initially had no reservations about walking to and from the border again during the daytime hours. But this time around, I'll be carrying a backpack as part of my carry on luggage and it may draw unnecessary attention from the cops. So because of this, I think I use cabs from the border to Cascadas where I'll dump my backpack. On my return trip to the border, I think I'll take a cab from Cascadas to the main tourist street where I'll look around for a bit. I'm guessing that even with a backpack, I should be okay walking from the main tourist drag to the border during midday.That seems like a reasonably safe plan Exoticspirit. Good luck.

These days the current rash of muggings have been happening to mongers on Coahuila Ave. On the one block between Constitution and Revolution.

Tijuana Policia can stop you anywhere and search you, but the two current favorite policia places for these types of searches are on a big quasi-perimeter of LZ that avoids the immediate areas of politically strong AB & HK. There have been a lot of Policia searches on south sidewalk of Coahuila Ave in the 200 feet of sidewalk starting at Nino Heroes and moving east half the distance to HK's North entrance. This roughly 200 feet of sidewalk has no businesses, just high walls, so it gives the policia a lot of cover to palm money from tourists during searches. Bar Tropical is directly across Coahuila Ave. And not a lot of people stand around in the front of BT for long period of time.

From that corner of Nino Heroes & Coahuila, pretty much all on Nino Heroes is another areas of frequent policia searches, especially the short block of Nino heroes between the alley and Coahuila Ave. This bock has big stretches of building wall and was a place that drug dealers liked to use. Hence the increased policia presence & searches. And then you have Primera (1st street) from Nino Heroes or the next one to two blocks east to the arch (and the 100 feet of Constitution in front of bar Zacanozapan). Policia do a lot of searches on Primera and the immediate vicinity of Bar Zap and all of Primera because of that area's reputation of people carrying drugs and big money as it the main pedestrian entry gateway into La Zona.

ExocticSpirit, I assume the main tourist area you plan to visit on your return trip to the border is Revolution and not Plaza Rio. From Revolution you can access the main pedestrian walkway to the border at the arch. Normally I would say that this part of the pedestrian walkway is fairly safe from the threats posed by rateros and policia. And as far as I know there has not been an increased number of reports of pedestrians being bothered during daylight. I've walked it more than a dozen times this past year and never felt threatened. But I've never done it with a backpack and only once carrying a small duffle bag.

It's kind of a toss up whether you'd be safer walking that stretch in the afternoon vs. Spending 50 pesos on a taxi. Maybe it you bought something bulky on Revolution you might be more comfortable taking a taxi to the border.

[Exoticspirit]

here and search you, but the two current favorite policia places for these types of searches are on a big quasi-perimeter of LZ that avoids the immediate areas of politically strong AB & HK. There have been a lot of Policia searches on south sidewalk of Coahuila Ave in the 200 feet of sidewalk starting at Nino Heroes and moving east half the distance to HK's North entrance. This roughly 200 feet of sidewalk has no businesses, just high walls, so it gives the policia a lot of cover to palm money from tourists during searches. Bar Tropical is directly across Coahuila Ave. And not a lot of people stand around in the front of BT for long period of time.Thanks so much for the info. If I'm walking around Zona Norte once I'm checked into the hotel, I won't be carrying any backpack. In fact, I won't be carrying much of anything. No phone and just minimal money to buy eats. So if I'm stopped, they are not going to find much on me and I will be extremely straight since I won't have any alcohol or drugs in my system. I don't suppose that these cops would follow me to my hotel just because they did not find anything on me.

[ScatManDoo]

Thanks so much for the info. If I'm walking around Zona Norte once I'm checked into the hotel, I won't be carrying any backpack. In fact, I won't be carrying much of anything. No phone and just minimal money to buy eats. So if I'm stopped, they are not going to find much on me and I will be extremely straight since I won't have any alcohol or drugs in my system. I don't suppose that these cops would follow me to my hotel just because they did not find anything on me.You would be OK.

Tijuana policia are just opportunists. If they searched you and found no actual illegal contraband (or something they can bluff about as being contraband, like a Viagra pill) and very little money on your person, they will lose complete interest in you immediately.

If they find something on you, real or made up, and can convince you to pay them a bribe to 'avoid trouble', then they might go with you to your hotel room or car in LZ to collect a bigger bribe than the money you are carrying.

[Jackie888]

In the cooler winter months I generally enjoy a nice leisurely stroll from the Border while sampling / window shop just about every store on the way. But when it gets warmer such as now, I'm unsure anyone would want to brave the heat. The 50 pesos I save end up going to extra drinks just to cool down. And when my armpits (and nutsack) is drenched, I tend to get quoted a higher price. Sometimes that savings isn't really a savings.

[Phordphan]

Thanks so much for the info. If I'm walking around Zona Norte once I'm checked into the hotel, I won't be carrying any backpack. In fact, I won't be carrying much of anything. No phone and just minimal money to buy eats. So if I'm stopped, they are not going to find much on me and I will be extremely straight since I won't have any alcohol or drugs in my system. I don't suppose that these cops would follow me to my hotel just because they did not find anything on me.I'm going to toss in my 2 centavos.

There is a LOT of paranoia on the boards, lately, about the cops. Rampant speculation leads to even more, and it's something of a vicious circle.

Now, as everybody here knows, I am NOT a fan of Tijuana's finest. I have been jacked up my share of times. If you spend enough time in Tijuana you will get jacked up. It happens to tourists and locals alike. As Joseph Wambaugh pointed out in one of his books, this has been going on since the Spaniards shook down the Indians. It's a fact of life and you simply must learn to deal with it. It seriously sucks, but there you have it.

Now, if one takes off one's rose-colored glasses, one can see that the Zona is an open sewer. Yes, there are loads of pretty women available at prices far below many other areas of the world. Unfortunately, there are also loads of heroin-addled streetwalkers, rateros, druggies, drug dealers, deported ex-felons, and various pieces of human debris. The cops are a-holes, but if they weren't there the Zona would be a whole lot more dangerous. Long-time aficionados can remember when the cops left the zona (almost) entirely, and there followed a major increase in broad-daylight muggings of mongers. We don't need to go back to those days.

OK. Having said that, let's try to calm your fears. Your odds of getting jacked up by the cops is small. Very small. There are lots of guys in and out of the Zona every day. The cops certainly can't stop and shake down every one of them.

Some guys get stopped more than others, it's true. I have no idea of the cops' criteria. They don't need probable cause. The Zona is a known drug market, so anybody walking down the street is a potential target. My guess is that if you are carrying a backpack in the zona you may be more of a target. But you don't fit that profile, so don't worry about it. You don't drink or do drugs, nor will you be carrying contraband, so you really have little to worry about.

You can certainly carry a phone. The cops will not jack you up when walking around on Revolucion, for instance, unless you're causing trouble. They certainly won't follow you to your hotel.

To summarize, the cops can be a problem, but there is no point in becoming paranoid. SMD offered some good advice on streets to avoid. It's always a good idea to not carry lots of money and certainly nothing to give the cops an excuse to demand a bribe. Regardless of what some may say, always carry your ID. If stopped, put your money in your hand (after showing them the money) and let them frisk you. Most guys have money stolen by the cops palming bills when searching a wallet, pocket, etc. They won't beat you up and rob you. If they find nothing, in my experience, they will let you go. If they find a pretext, a random pill, a joint, whatever, then you've opened yourself up to forking over a contribution.

In my case, I just treat the cops as part of the scenery. Just ignore them. Have a good time, don't worry too much about the cops. Don't let your imagination run wild. The odds are in your favor. Just be prepared, so you'll know what to do should you get stopped.

[WanderingMan]

There were certainly lots of bars along the tourist strip with the fight last night. Many had open seating. A friend decided to watch at Hong Kong and indicated all the televisions, front and back, had the fight. Not much else going on he said. At least until the fight ended. The local population didn't seem happy with the results though many expected it.

[Captain Solo]

The Freedom Path, behind the border McDonalds, used to be full of tourists, farmacias, arts shops, restaurants and stalls selling trinkets on weekend. I used to enjoy walking that path, eating ice cream and tacos, flirting with the meseras, checking out shops and art stores.

After about 2008, there were fewer and fewer people after each passing year. Now, that path is pretty deserted even during day time and most shops have closed down. It's a ghost town. I would not risk walking on the bridge over the Tijuana river and get robbed. It's a sad scene.

Now I drive over and park in HK's Pepe's lot. I do all my window shopping in La Zona and only buy basic human needs: sex, food, drinks.


In the cooler winter months I generally enjoy a nice leisurely stroll from the Border while sampling / window shop just about every store on the way. But when it gets warmer such as now, I'm unsure anyone would want to brave the heat. The 50 pesos I save end up going to extra drinks just to cool down. And when my armpits (and nutsack) is drenched, I tend to get quoted a higher price. Sometimes that savings isn't really a savings.

[WanderingMan]

I was in Hong Kong and upset an American female feminist for some reason. She cursed at me and indicated she believed I showed a lack of respect because I made the dancer come down to my level to tip instead of standing. I explained the dancer was the entertainer, not vice versa. Security finally said something to her and the three male eunuchs who brought her there. The left after they finished their drinks. A couple of the other patrons reminded her on which side of the international border she was sitting. After they left the entertainment became more enjoyable.

[TJohmyGoodness]

I have read several posts regarding carrying illegal drugs and the risk in doing so. I have bad knees. As a result, I have been prescribed and take Lortab for this pain. I have taken Lortab with me every time that I have crossed. I take one about 45 minutes before I head north. Candidly, the walk is difficult with my knees and the Lortab truly helps with this walk (tequila helps also). I had never considered possession of this Lortab to be a potential problem. Is it a potential problem? I am inexperienced and naive and seriously request experiential advice.

Thanks

[GolfSexRroll]

I was in Hong Kong and upset an American female feminist for some reason. She cursed at me and indicated she believed I showed a lack of respect because I made the dancer come down to my level to tip instead of standing. I explained the dancer was the entertainer, not vice versa. Security finally said something to her and the three male eunuchs who brought her there. The left after they finished their drinks. A couple of the other patrons reminded her on which side of the international border she was sitting. After they left the entertainment became more enjoyable.Feminist. Maybe. Most likely gay! There are a lot of gay women who come to Hong Kong. They tend to be LOUD and obnoxious! A LOT worse than the guys "groping"! A lot of HK chicas are into this also (IMHO)!

[Jackie888]

Feminist. Maybe. Most likely gay! There are a lot of gay women who come to Hong Kong. They tend to be LOUD and obnoxious! A LOT worse than the guys "groping"! A lot of HK chicas are into this also (IMHO)!Yup. I see Lesbian couples all the time. Last week they took this one butch on stage, put a towel on her head and let her eat out a hot HK chica. Then without her knowing the waiters took turn rubbing their crotches in her face (behind the towel). It was pretty funny.

A couple of those Lesbians are very attractive. Probably the wife character. I was really tempted to suggest to one Lesbian that she and I take a HK girl up for a threesome. But her butch partner would have kicked my ass, and the humiliating reputation of being a Lesbian's ***** was too much for me to brave. But I have no problems with a feminist lesbian. Weeks ago I had the biggest hard-on watching a Lesbian making out with a smoking hot Chica.

[WanderingMan]

Feminist. Maybe. Most likely gay! There are a lot of gay women who come to Hong Kong. They tend to be LOUD and obnoxious! A LOT worse than the guys "groping"! A lot of HK chicas are into this also (IMHO)!I never considered she was gay but now that you mention it she did sit at the bar where the girls danced part of the night. She had an acceptable look, not the typical bull dyke look. That said, she could have made herself look much much prettier. One could tell she had the potential to look good. She was a flat out witch. She liked hanging out with her 3 male friends who could offer no protection. They looked like "love the world" hippie types left over from the sixties look. They were all in their 20's though.

I detest feminists and one benefit of tolerating the constant machista male attitude in Mexico is that the women act feminine not like outright c..ts we tolerate in the USA.

[Spinneritas]

Am I the only unlucky one that lives 3 hours away from Tijuana? Do you all guys are living in San Diego County? Any OC or LA say Here!L. A. Here too. 3. 5 to 4 hours down in the morning on a weekend; 5 back in the afternoon / evening. Border agent gave me a pissed off look when I said the reason for visit was lunch LOL. You guys want to go down together some time? Maybe the zona is safer in a group than flying solo.

P.S. - Just curious, what do you mongers say at the checkpoint when asked your reason for visiting. Are you vague (I. E. "Tourism") or more specific?

[Jackie888]

L. A. Here too. 3. 5 to 4 hours down in the morning on a weekend; 5 back in the afternoon / evening. Border agent gave me a pissed off look when I said the reason for visit was lunch LOL. You guys want to go down together some time? Maybe the zona is safer in a group than flying solo.

P.S. - Just curious, what do you mongers say at the checkpoint when asked your reason for visiting. Are you vague (I. E. "Tourism") or more specific?I just tell them HK, Adelitas, Tropicals, Playboy. These guys don't care. Theyre Border Patrol, not Vice. Theyre asking you so that they can identify a suspicious accent and see if you're indeed who the passport purports you to be, rather than some terrorist or smuggler just arriving from Columbia. Pretty sure some of our BP guys have taken a trip to the zona just to cure their curiosity.

[Jackie888]

I never considered she was gay but now that you mention it she did sit at the bar where the girls danced part of the night. She had an acceptable look, not the typical bull dyke look. That said, she could have made herself look much much prettier. One could tell she had the potential to look good. She was a flat out witch. She liked hanging out with her 3 male friends who could offer no protection. They looked like "love the world" hippie types left over from the sixties look. They were all in their 20's though.

I detest feminists and one benefit of tolerating the constant machista male attitude in Mexico is that the women act feminine not like outright c..ts we tolerate in the USA.Next time tell her that you are a male feminist, and find it highly objectionable that she is treating your favorite dancers like a piece of meat by lusting at their bodies.

[Exoticspirit]

In my case, I just treat the cops as part of the scenery. Just ignore them. Have a good time, don't worry too much about the cops. Don't let your imagination run wild. The odds are in your favor. Just be prepared, so you'll know what to do should you get stopped.Thanks so much for your insight. I'll probably opt to take a 50 peso cab from the border to Cascadas as well as the return trip. Then I'll walk around where there is enough pedestrian traffic including the taco vendors but make sure I don't have anything on me except for food $ and ID. Since I plan to bring the girls back to my hotel room, I won't have to walk around with the $ for them either.

[GolfSexRroll]

The Freedom Path, behind the border McDonalds, used to be full of tourists, farmacias, arts shops, restaurants and stalls selling trinkets on weekend. I used to enjoy walking that path, eating ice cream and tacos, flirting with the meseras, checking out shops and art stores.

After about 2008, there were fewer and fewer people after each passing year. Now, that path is pretty deserted even during day time and most shops have closed down. It's a ghost town. I would not risk walking on the bridge over the Tijuana river and get robbed. It's a sad scene.

Now I drive over and park in HK's Pepe's lot. I do all my window shopping in La Zona and only buy basic human needs: sex, food, drinks.Captain. Don't be a wuss! It is NOT that bad. You don't venture away from the alley. You don't venture anywhere in Tijuana (except sterile Zona Rio) Where did you grow up? In Nebraska?

[Jackie888]

The Art Gallery under the bridge is still there. A couple of weeka ago, the lady owner tried to sell me a copied painting of the Sistine Chapel by Michelangelo. Of course, the figures of God and Man looked distinctively Mexican so I knew that they were at least hand painted. LOL. She had a giant Pit Bull in chain on the premise, presumably for shoplifters. I hope that the Mexican Government finish with the border renovations soon so that the old crossing would reopen.

[Exoticspirit]

We see some of those video walking tours of Zona Norte on YouTube. It's interesting how these guys don't seem to get hassled by anyone. Might this imply that when a camcorder or cellphone on video mode comes out, everyone from the drug dealers to cops just mind their own business?

[Captain Solo]

Saturday I drove down to Tijuana, arriving at 3 PM. I drove to Calle 6 Looking for those highly recommended seafood restaurants, but that street was severely congested with shoppers, there was no parking.

I drove back out to O'Campo trying to park the car to try that famous mariscos taco place. I drove along all the way near the Mercado de Artesano but could not find parking on that street. Since I was so close to La Zona Norte, I told my wingman, fuck it, we are going to Coahuila and eat tacos and pussies there.

Coahuila has all kinds of food, meat and seafood. Not sure it could get any better and worth the effort going outside of La Zona. We had tacos, shrimp tacos, raw cockles en la concha. All different types of food as we walked around the block, while having personal protection by Tijuana's Secret Services. We went for 2 for 1 beers at bar Valentina, $4 for 2 cold beers. Then we went in HK to drink, sniff some pussies and watch the fight.

Coahuila is Tijuana's heaven. Food, fun, drinks, pussies, love. All in the same block. There are no needs to venture outside La Zona for anything in life.


Captain. Don't be a wuss! It is NOT that bad. You don't venture away from the alley. You don't venture anywhere in Tijuana (except sterile Zona Rio) Where did you grow up? In Nebraska?

[Elmo5743]

We see some of those video walking tours of Zona Norte on YouTube. It's interesting how these guys don't seem to get hassled by anyone. Might this imply that when a camcorder or cellphone on video mode comes out, everyone from the drug dealers to cops just mind their own business?Heading to Tijuana tomorrow afternoon from about 3 ish to about 9 ish, anyone else want to chill, have some beers and check out the chicas.

[TomJackin]

We see some of those video walking tours of Zona Norte on YouTube. It's interesting how these guys don't seem to get hassled by anyone. Might this imply that when a camcorder or cellphone on video mode comes out, everyone from the drug dealers to cops just mind their own business?Those are mostly hidden cams they are using.

Believe me, if you whipped out a video recorded, you would get hassled.

[Jackie888]

One time I was strolling in the alley, the girls started pelting this car with their cofee, drinks, and whatever they could getvtheir hands on. The car sped down the alley and almost ran some people over. One girl explained to me that they didn't want to be filmed. Considering that the police station was across the street and the alley was a one lane street, it was a pretty stupid thing to do. One can really get cornered by an angry mob in that alley, or face a shakedown.

[Exoticspirit]

Those are mostly hidden cams they are using.

Believe me, if you whipped out a video recorded, you would get hassled.The girls seem to know when they are getting recorded on video since they all start to turn their backs towards the cameras. And some of these YouTube videos feature folks speaking right to the camcorder like a documentary show so I'm sure those are not hidden cameras.

[Phordphan]

Played hooky on Friday. Set up a reservation at my usual joint, then drove down and picked up Rocky the Flying Squirrel.

After some futzing around we opted for lunch at La Strada, on 8th and Negrete. Little Italian joint. Very cute and friendly waitress. The chicken piccata wasn't the way I would have made it, but it was tasty. My penne puttanesca was good. Everybody has their own variations on that dish, but the pasta was cooked perfectly and I'm really fussy about that. The pizza looked good, but we didn't have any. I think they have decent pizza oven, based on the appearance of the crust. Next time. Anyway, a very filling lunch, with a half-liter of decent sangria, was under 300 pesos.

That evening we decided to hit the Zona, as we hadn't been for quite a while. First stop, Delicias. D'oh! Didn't know it was closed. Looks like they're remodeling that shithole. Customers were redirected to La Tropa. Forget it.

Next stop, La Malquerida for a couple of brews. Watched the girls dance a bit, listened to some gawd-awful karaoke. Then the live music started and we bailed.

Next stop, Playboy. They've "slightly" remodeled again. Loads of girls waiting on the sofas, most quite attractive. Sat for a beer and watched the strippers. The sofa chicas were prettier. After the 2nd dancer Rocky asked me to find a lady for her. I asked the mesero if there were any bisexual chicas there. He just said "Of course!" and ran off. I hit the can, and as soon as I came out there was a girl there, quite attractive, about 25, and she was being VERY attentive to Rocky.

I found out that if you buy 3 ficha drinks you can go upstairs to the "make out lounge. " So, up we went. It's a bunch of sofas scattered around, with various and sundry other couples getting their freak on. We grabbed a seat and then the chica was all over Rocky like a cheap suit. I participated off, and on. Lots of touching and lap dancing. Rocky pulled the girl's boobs out of her top and we each started sucking and nibbling them. I took the right, Rocky took the left. But, for the most part, it was all Rocky. She was really digging it. There were two guys and a chica on the sofa opposite. One guy took one look at my girls and started whacking off to beat the band. Rocky thought that was hilarious.

After a couple more fichas I was out of dinero. I was a bit short due to being shortchanged by about 200 pesos from one of the fucking meseros, who suddenly made himself VERY, VERY scarce. I have no idea how long we were up there, but I'm sure it was at least an hour, maybe closer to two. Total damage (not including the shortchanging) was 5(?) fichas, or $35, plus probably about $25 in regular beers. What a bargain.

We finally got back to the hotel sometime before dawn, where Rocky the Extremely Horny Squirrel put me through my paces. I won't bore you with the sordid details. I'll just say that we both collapsed in a heap, each drenched in "bodily fluids. " :D I can't wait to go back.

[Member #4450]

One time I was strolling in the alley, the girls started pelting this car with their cofee, drinks, and whatever they could getvtheir hands on. The car sped down the alley and almost ran some people over. One girl explained to me that they didn't want to be filmed. Considering that the police station was across the street and the alley was a one lane street, it was a pretty stupid thing to do. One can really get cornered by an angry mob in that alley, or face a shakedown.How about they recording us "I always feel like somebody's watching me and I have no privacy" Old song. Seriously I believe there must be hiding cameras inside the hotel rooms, what you guys think? Maybe for the girl safety or for general ID reference?

[GolfSexRroll]

The girls seem to know when they are getting recorded on video since they all start to turn their backs towards the cameras. And some of these YouTube videos feature folks speaking right to the camcorder like a documentary show so I'm sure those are not hidden cameras.Several times I have been talking to some of my paradita amigas and they would cower behind me in the alley when a car goes by. They are always looking into car windows, and turn their backs and especially "tinted" windows / that they can't see into. (as a side- I would NEVER drive in Tijuana with tinted windows). It BEGS the cops to stop you / almost a guarantee! I have seen the Documentary with the guy (the "scruffy one!) walking the Zona and talking. In it some of the girls are turning away, so I think he does have a hidden camera, but it is noticeable he is talking into some devise! These girls may not have much schooling but they are not fucking stupid!

[TomJackin]

One guy took one look at my girls and started whacking off to beat the band.Sorry, I could not help myself!

Another great report; thanks!

[Captain Solo]

I was walking at the corner Ninos and the alley and ran across a group of 4 young gringos. 1 of them yelled excitedly ". Wow. Pan cakes. Let's have some, guys. ".

Imagine someone went a distance to Tijuana and got excited about pan cake and hot dogs?

While there are about 20 to 30 food carts and restaurants around La Zona's pussy block, they serve sea food, beef, pork, all kinds of offal. But no chicken of any kind. The little hole in the wall restaurant, near the new OXXO, that used to grill chicken legs, are gone.

I like chicken jerks, marinaded in a tangy and spicy sauce, then grilled over charcoal the way Jamaicans and Philippinos do it. It makes very juicy and tangy finger food. I was walking on Field Ave in Angeles City one afternoon, not hungry, but the smoke coming out of chickens grilled over charcoal smelled delicious. I ordered half a chicken and washed it down with a couple bottles of San Miguel and became convinced grilled chicken jerks are juicy and very delicious.

I sure hope street vendors add grilled chicken jerks to la Zona.

[GolfSexRroll]

I was walking at the corner Ninos and the alley and ran across a group of 4 young gringos. 1 of them yelled excitedly ". Wow. Pan cakes. Let's have some, guys. ".

Imagine someone went a distance to Tijuana and got excited about pan cake and hot dogs?

While there are about 20 to 30 food carts and restaurants around La Zona's pussy block, they serve sea food, beef, pork, all kinds of offal. But no chicken of any kind. The little hole in the wall restaurant, near the new OXXO, that used to grill chicken legs, are gone.

I like chicken jerks, marinaded in a tangy and spicy sauce, then grilled over charcoal the way Jamaicans and Philippinos do it. It makes very juicy and tangy finger food. I was walking on Field Ave in Angeles City one afternoon, not hungry, but the smoke coming out of chickens grilled over charcoal smelled delicious. I ordered half a chicken and washed it down with a couple bottles of San Miguel and became convinced grilled chicken jerks are juicy and very delicious.

I sure hope street vendors add grilled chicken jerks to la Zona.Hey Captain, Solo, Wing: They have two chicken joints on Primera, BUT you don't go out of the "Alley" area so you would not know! For someone who has been in Tijuana and posting so much over the years. You MISS a lot! One chicken joint is next to Enva. The second is right on Primera across the street a few steps from the arch.

[Exoticspirit]

While there are about 20 to 30 food carts and restaurants around La Zona's pussy block, they serve sea food, beef, pork, all kinds of offal. Has anyone ever tried that Chinese resto on Nino opposite of the alley?

[Phordphan]

Hey Captain, Solo, Wing: They have two chicken joints on Primera, BUT you don't go out of the "Alley" area so you would not know! For someone who has been in Tijuana and posting so much over the years. You MISS a lot! One chicken joint is next to Enva. The second is right on Primera across the street a few steps from the arch.Don't forget Kentucky Fried Buches. Last I checked, those are chicken, too.

[Captain Solo]

I am aware of the chicken places on Primera. The chicken buche place I wanted to try but have not.

Mexicans tend to deep fry chicken legs and way overcook them, making them dry, greasy, chewy and tasteless.

Chicken jerks (marinaded in lemon juice, salt, brown sugar and pepper sauce then grilled quickly on high-heat charcoal is a lot healthier and tastier, and would go well with tortilla and salsa.

BTW I only eat food within 200 ft of the pussy block while watching chicas sell tricks.

[Jackie888]

Has anyone ever tried that Chinese resto on Nino opposite of the alley?Solo likes it. I don't, but I am extremely finnicky with Asian food. Just don't order any noodle dishes.

[Captain Solo]

Kim Mon surprisingly serves good, classic Chinese food with fresh ingredients, properly spiced and cooked by a good chef. They serve large portions of food, like double those in the US.

If I go by myself, I usually order the mixed seafood and vegetables stir fry for about $6, fresh and delicious. If I have company, I would order the combination meals for 2 at $17. That includes about 6 different dishes including soup, fried rice and usually feeds 4 gringos with left over.

Last time I took sample of each dish, with the shrimp fried rice, pack them into 2 foam boxes, complete with soy and hot sauce pouches and offered them to 2 alley girls. They really like that food.

Kim Mon lost its license to sell beers, so I usually bring in a 6-pack from the store.


Has anyone ever tried that Chinese resto on Nino opposite of the alley?

[Exoticspirit]

Kim Mon surprisingly serves good, classic Chinese food with fresh ingredients, properly spiced and cooked by a good chef. They serve large portions of food, like double those in the US.I would be most curious to try it since I like to try see how Asian cuisine is in any foreign country. I even tried to local Chinese place when down in San Jose, Costa Rica (it was only so-so).

Too bad Kim Mon is situated on the section where both the trannies and the police shakedowns are frequent, according to what I read here.

[Exoticspirit]

BTW I only eat food within 200 ft of the pussy block while watching chicas sell tricks.This is what I plan to do if possible as well. Are there any eateries you suggest between HK and Adelita as well as across the street?

[Phordphan]

Kim Mon surprisingly serves good, classic Chinese foodPlease elaborate on what you mean by "classic Chinese food. ".

[Phordphan]

I would be most curious to try it since I like to try see how Asian cuisine is in any foreign country. I even tried to local Chinese place when down in San Jose, Costa Rica (it was only so-so).

Too bad Kim Mon is situated on the section where both the trannies and the police shakedowns are frequent, according to what I read here.You will be disappointed in the "Chinese" food available in Tijuana. But you should try it once.

I promise you that you will not be hassled by the cops if you eat at Kim Mon. The few trannies who inhabit that stretch won't bite. Go easy on the paranoia and try the food. Report back here with your opinion.

[Jackie888]

I'm guessing that there's classic Chinese food and then there's American Fast Food Chinese like Chopstick Express. But I can't understand why folks would want to eat Chinese in Mexico.

[Jackie888]

About 1/2 the time I go up with a chica, especially a favorite they would ask me if I had sex that day. Why do you guys think theyre asking?

[FlapJacK]

About 1/2 the time I go up with a chica, especially a favorite they would ask me if I had sex that day. Why do you guys think theyre asking?Same here. Could be several reasons for asking this. Wanting to know how clean you are?

[Captain Solo]

The chicas would ask if you had sex or took Viagra. They just want to know how long they will be pummeled by your long dong.

A few told me they hate guys who use Viagra and take a long time to "squirt."


About 1/2 the time I go up with a chica, especially a favorite they would ask me if I had sex that day. Why do you guys think theyre asking?

[Captain Solo]

I should say Classic Cantonese Cuisine, as it's probably the most popular Chinese cuisine exported to the rest of the world.

Canton in Southern China is in warm climate, rich with seafood and lots of other fresh, exotic ingredients. Canton probably has the most diverse offering of dishes. Their classic cooking would use spices sparingly and cook quickly to balance the taste, flavor, texture of the food. The classic Cantonese food is light and tasty, not overly greasy and spicy, usually slightly sweet and tangy, but offering the maximum tastes, flavors and textures of the main ingredients. HK's favorite dimsums are good examples of preserving the taste and flavor of food by steaming.

The most famous chefs in China are mostly trained in Hainan, where there are abundant seafood. I like the food scene in ShenZhen a lot. Lots of exotic ingredients cooked fresh in many different ways.

Cantonese cuisine migrated to Singapore. All big chefs in Singapore were hired from HK or Hainan, but they blend their taste with Malays by adding Satay sauce in everything they cook, which make the food slightly bitter. Singapore's favorite dish seems to be Hainan chicken, which is very plain steamed chicken with rice cooked in chicken broth, of course eaten with satay sauce.

In the US, low-brow Chinese restaurants kick up the taste by using excessive grease, ketchup, spices and MSG, which is way overdone. Surprisingly Southern California has some very good Cantonese restaurants offering exotic banquets for weddings and large parties. But they are nowhere near the sophistication of large restaurants in Beijing, Shanghai, ShenZhen ect. With hundreds private dining rooms, serving thousands diners with menus of hundreds exotic dishes, and doing it consistently well everyday.


Please elaborate on what you mean by "classic Chinese food. ".

[GolfSexRroll]

The chicas would ask if you had sex or took Viagra. They just want to know how long they will be pummeled by your long dong.

A few told me they hate guys who use Viagra and take a long time to "squirt."A few of my favorites have said the same thing! Viagra has "helped" their career (and our Mongering careers!) but it is a pain in the ass to them. Viagra holds off orgasm, and in a lot of guys -previous sex hold off orgasm. They ask to gear their "gameplan"so to speak! Jajaja.

[Captain Solo]

I took 2 Chinos to Tijuana for a visit in March. They just get done celebrating their Chinese New Year at home and was on business in the US.

We arrived at about 9 PM and were very hungry. We delayed dinner so I could introduce them to Mexican food. One of the 2 had been to La Perla before and he liked the big fried fish a lot. So I took them to La Perla quickly. The place was pretty much empty but that stupid brass band was still playing at ear-splitting volume. I asked them if they wanted to stay; of course they would not.

These guys are loaded with money and live their high lives in China, so they refused to eat street food. I was thinking of the Sonora Grill, Monaco and Praga, but their menus are just too limited and lack diversity for these guys. We were too hungry to go out of La Zona. So I walked them into Kim Mon. I just felt they would be less disappointed at Kim Mon.

We were too hungry to think straight, so I forgot Kim Mon had English menu and we struggled with the Spanish version. The new fat meseras was so dumb and slow. I eventually figured out that they had these combination dinners at the back of the menu. Knowing they serve big portion, I ordered the meal for 2 people costing 170 pesos, which was about $12. It has 6 dishes, BBQ pork, shrimp chowmein, beef vegetables, mixed seafood, chicken soup, shrimp fried rice etc. I had to walk South on Ninos in the dark into the combat zone to buy some beers, as the restaurant lost its license.

My calculation was correct. These guys, used to the finest Cantonese food in ShenZhen and Guang Dong, actually like Kim Mon's grub a lot. They ate with gusto and complimented on the good food. But 3 hungry guys still had quite a bit of food left over. So I carefully took samples of each dish and packed them into 2 foam boxes for the chicas. Kim Mon food was not greasy, but light and easily digestible. So right after dinner, we hit HK and quickly took chicas upstairs without delays.

Most Mexican chicas are not exposed to Chinese food. If you take them to Kim Mon, they are impressed. I ate at a few Chinese places in Tijuana and Ensenada but was always disappointed. But Kim Mon is surprisingly good.


I'm guessing that there's classic chinese food and then theres American Fast Food Chinese like Chopstick Express. But I can't understand why folks would want to eat Chinese in Mexico.

[Exoticspirit]

I ate at a few Chinese places in Tijuana and Ensenada but was always disappointed. But Kim Mon is surprisingly good.For my short stay, I'm going to try and fit in Kim Mon, La Perla and Sonora Grill. Since I'm Asian, I'm always curious to see how Asian cuisine fares in other countries and I want to try La Perla and Sonora since they seem to be the ones most talked about and within safe walking distance.

I see Kim Mon easily on the Google Maps photos. The other two I don't see. I know La Perla is near the corner close to HK but just don't see it since there doesn't seem to be anything on the corner except boarded up walls. Where exactly is the entrance?

Same with Sonora. I know it's across the street close to Tropical but just don't see it on the Google Maps photos. Where is its entrance?

[ScatManDoo]

For my short stay, I'm going to try and fit in Kim Mon, La Perla and Sonora Grill. Since I'm Asian, I'm always curious to see how Asian cuisine fares in other countries and I want to try La Perla and Sonora since they seem to be the ones most talked about and within safe walking distance.

I see Kim Mon easily on the Google Maps photos. The other two I don't see. I know La Perla is near the corner close to HK but just don't see it since there doesn't seem to be anything on the corner except boarded up walls. Where exactly is the entrance?

Same with Sonora. I know it's across the street close to Tropical but just don't see it on the Google Maps photos. Where is its entrance?If you walk in a westerly direction along the alley's single block, all you need to do is cross the street (Ninos Heroes) and walk directly into Kim Mon.

La Perla is located on the NW corner of Nino Heroes and Coahuila Ave. The main entrance to La Perla is literally on the corner.

The corner that you see with boarded up walls is the SE corner of Nino Heroes and Coahuila Ave. The SE corner of that intersection is the corner closest to Hong Kong Bar's main entrance.

Sonora Grill is located almost directly across the street from Adelitas Bar (across the street on Coahuila Ave.).

I've enjoyed many meals at Kim Mon over the years. They do noodle dishes, like chow mein, very well. I rate their fried rice dishes as just so-so. I didn't like the favor of their egg rolls. A better Chinese food restaurant in LZ, IMHO, is a restaurant with very good Cantonese dishes call El Cielo. I prefer chop suey and rice dishes, and for my tastes El Cielo serves better dishes than Kim Mon. El Cielo is located on the SW corner of Primera (1st St.) and Martinez. Just a few steps away from the Verario Hotel on Primera and Tito's Tacos on Primera. Martinez is the next North-South running street to the west after Nino Heroes. El Cielo's egg rolls are very good IMO and my favorite complete lunch dish there is their puerco chop suey for around $5. They use a cut of pork in that dish that tastes a lot like bacon.

[Jackie888]

For my short stay, I'm going to try and fit in Kim Mon, La Perla and Sonora Grill. Since I'm Asian, I'm always curious to see how Asian cuisine fares in other countries and I want to try La Perla and Sonora since they seem to be the ones most talked about and within safe walking distance.

I see Kim Mon easily on the Google Maps photos. The other two I don't see. I know La Perla is near the corner close to HK but just don't see it since there doesn't seem to be anything on the corner except boarded up walls. Where exactly is the entrance?

Same with Sonora. I know it's across the street close to Tropical but just don't see it on the Google Maps photos. Where is its entrance?Grill. From the Adelitas entrance, look directly across the street.

Perla. From the HK entrance, look across the street to your left.

When in doubt, ask the doorman manager. The chicas also know where it is. I would even recommend inviting a pretty Chica to dinner if you don't mind paying under $10 for her meal. Women are the same everywhere. Feed them until they cant eat more,?and they'll fuck your brains out. Its wired in their DNA.

[Captain Solo]

You should try Mexico's unique raw seafood cocktails. They would cut up the large chocolate live clams, oyster and cockles, marinade in lime juice, and serve with salsa and cilantro. The clams fresh and delicious, better than Japanese sashimi. After eating raw mariscos for 10 years I have never had any stomach problem.

A nice, clean, safe spot to sit down and eat this mariscos while watching the girls is at the so-called " School-girl" corner, on the South East side of Constitucion and Coahuila, across the street from bar Gloria and Playboy. Its name is due to a bunch of young girls dressed up in school-girl uniforms, some are very good-looking. This mariscos guy is nice and clean. I would order a cocktail or clams on the half shelves in small $3, medium $5 or large $7. Sometimes I would ask his helper to go across the street and bring back some beers in brown paper bags.

The school girls would call out to invite me in the hotel for sex. They would tease me mercilessly, probably about the diminutive size of my dick, and laugh hysterically among themselves. They would snag and pull on every guy who walks pass on the sidewalk.

There are always policia foot patrol at that corner, so it's safe. But don't go further East on Coahuila from there by yourself, as there are news of robbers waiting near the Karaoke bar.


This is what I plan to do if possible as well. Are there any eateries you suggest between HK and Adelita as well as across the street?

[Exoticspirit]

Grill. From the Adelitas entrance, look directly across the street.

Perla. From the HK entrance, look across the street to your left.

When in doubt, ask the doorman manager. The chicas also know where it is. I would even recommend inviting a pretty Chica to dinner if you don't mind paying under $10 for her meal. Women are the same everywhere. Feed them until they cant eat more,?and they'll fuck your brains out. Its wired in their DNA.Thanks, I see La Perla now on the northwest corner. Actually looks pretty nice from the outside!

I never even thought about inviting a Mexicana out for social time like some of us do while in Philippines. I thought the Tijuana girls are all business clock watchers.

[Captain Solo]

You would be surprised how easy it is to invite Tijuana chicas, both in the club and on the street, to dinner.

May I invite you to Chinese seafood dinner, honey?

¿Puedo invitarte a cenar mariscos Chinos, cariño?

I am getting so good with my formal Spanish I will soon be the next Don Juan of Tijuana. The other guys are so jealous. Hehe.


Thanks, I see La Perla now on the northwest corner. Actually looks pretty nice from the outside!

I never even thought about inviting a Mexicana out for social time like some of us do while in Philippines. I thought the Tijuana girls are all business clock watchers.

[Captain Solo]

Over the last century, Tijuana forefathers did a lot of thoughtful planning to bring together, within safe walking distances of the pussy block, Mexico's finest food, fun and fucks.

[Lateraelus]

Any decent places around LZ that serve vegetarian dishes?

[GolfSexRroll]

Any decent places around LZ that serve vegetarian dishes?
I know a couple places that serve a mean dog chow mien!

[Jackie888]

I know a couple places that serve a mean dog chow mien!Wandered down there yesterday. Mistake! The number of chicas dropped to about 30% because of the rain forescast. Asked one favorite to dinner at Kim Mon. Her Spanish answer sounded something like "I would rather my children die of starvation than eat dog meat at a Chinese restaurant.

So I took her to the Sonora Grill instead. For 300 pesos ($20 for all of those pesos challenged) including tip, I fed her, myself, and brought home burritos with deserts for her 2 kids. Before anyone jokes that I only chase after wrinkly old women, she's 23 years old. I'm the wrinkly one somewhere in my mid 40's. Afterwards she was just about ready to move in with me. I settled for Facebook friend and exchanging numbers. Hey I just wanted good company for dinner. Not looking for a GF.

In conclusion. Breaking bread and sharing a meal is highly preferred by me. $20 is roughly the price of two ficha drinks. But the level of frienship built is exponentially higher."

Also. No. Chinese food is off the menu at the moment.

[Exoticspirit]

In conclusion. Breaking bread and sharing a meal is highly preferred by me. $20 is roughly the price of two ficha drinks. But the level of frienship built is exponentially higher."
.Would this generally include a session afterwards? If so, for how long (in general) and would the usual cost be the same?

[Jackie888]

Would this generally include a session afterwards? If so, for how long (in general) and would the usual cost be the same?Nope. In my efforts to keep it professional, I pay the regular pricing for the session thereafter. But I am treated as an old boyfriend instead of an ATM machine.

[Phordphan]

For my short stay, I'm going to try and fit in Kim Mon, La Perla and Sonora Grill. Since I'm Asian, I'm always curious to see how Asian cuisine fares in other countries and I want to try La Perla and Sonora since they seem to be the ones most talked about and within safe walking distance.

I see Kim Mon easily on the Google Maps photos. The other two I don't see. I know La Perla is near the corner close to HK but just don't see it since there doesn't seem to be anything on the corner except boarded up walls. Where exactly is the entrance?

Same with Sonora. I know it's across the street close to Tropical but just don't see it on the Google Maps photos. Where is its entrance?If you are Asian then you will probably be disappointed, although you didn't specify which "flavor" of Asian. If you're of Chinese ancestry I am convinced that you will be disappointed.

What passes for Chinese food in Tijuana can best be described as that "Chinese-ish" stuff that my parents' generation considered Chinese food. Day-glo sweet and sour pork, chop suey (a 100% American invention), that sort of thing. If you like that sort of thing, and some do, you'll be fine.

When a poster claimed that Kim Mon had classic Chinese dishes on the menu I held a (very) faint hope that one might find actual classics, like tea smoked duck, char siu, twice-cooked pork, that sort of thing. But, apparently, it's the same thing as all the other Chinese places in Tijuana. Like Jackie888, I'm very picky about Chinese food. Living in the San Gabriel Valley spoils one, I suppose. Although it does make one desperate for good Mexican, Thai, or just about anything else. :D

Although the claim of 30 eateries in one block is overstated by probably 100%, the food in the Zona is fairly good. However, with the exception of La Perla, there are no "destination" places. In other words, nobody says "Hey, let's go to Sonora Grill for dinner tonight. " Again with the exception of La Perla, the food you'll find in the Zona is basically "Mexican fast food. " All of the restaurants serve much the same menus, and they're geared to get in, eat, get out, and get back to the bar. There's nothing wrong with this, and I'm not criticizing it. Just keep your expectations realistic.

[Artisttyp]

Best chinese in Tijuana is Chans or Changs its called around the corner from Saverios. Sanchez Taboada I think is the avenue. 200mx average for each entree or appetizer. Owner is chinese mexican.

Besides Changs I highly recommend japanese food in Tijuana. The rest of the chinese joint IMO are crap.

[Exoticspirit]

All of the restaurants serve much the same menus, and they're geared to get in, eat, get out, and get back to the bar. There's nothing wrong with this, and I'm not criticizing it. Just keep your expectations realistic.I won't have any expectations. The Chinese food in San Jose, Costa Rica was a joke as was in Kansas City MO! I don't need half a tub of 'brown' sauce like they gave me in Kansas City. Hahaha.

Back to the Mexican food though. Do you gents eat any of the salads down there? If so, have you ever gotten sick, maybe because they washed the raw veggies with their tap water? I would normally avoid raw veggies altogether whenever I'm south of the US border but don't know the case with Tijuana being so close to the USA.

[HorseTrader]

Back to the Mexican food though. Do you gents eat any of the salads down there? If so, have you ever gotten sick, maybe because they washed the raw veggies with their tap water? I would normally avoid raw veggies altogether whenever I'm south of the US border but don't know the case with Tijuana being so close to the USA.Yes I have, but not very often. I've twice had salad at Caesars on revolution, it wasn't as good as I expected. The tiny grill directly north of LC also serves a small salad with their dinners and I've had that several times. Many times I've had the fresh juice a bit south of school girl corner. Lastly, I often have a cup of cut up fruit that is sold from carts at the diagonal shopping area just south of the arch.

I don't think the carts even have a decent way to wash their foods or knives or dishes. That doesn't stop me.

Never had a problem. Perhaps I'm a lucky fool.

[Jackie888]

I eat salads at La Perla all the time without issues and I do have a sensitive stomach. Seems to me that restaurants that cater to tourists tend to make sure their custome base don't get sick. So I limit my salad intake to only tourist centric restaurants.

BTW, I took HK's limo back. It's a bona fide stretched limo, not a duck taped version of a kit car. The. $1 tip was much appreciated. And it seemed as though the police presense has decreased. Or maybe they hated the rain as much as the chicas did.

[ScatManDoo]

Back to the Mexican food though. Do you gents eat any of the salads down there? If so, have you ever gotten sick, maybe because they washed the raw veggies with their tap water? I would normally avoid raw veggies altogether whenever I'm south of the US border but don't know the case with Tijuana being so close to the USA.
The tiny grill directly north of LC also serves a small salad with their dinners and I've had that several times. When I'm looking for an above average salad, but want to stay in LZ, I go to the place HorseTrader is talking about.

That tiny (four outside stools) restaurant tucked in between the two entrances to Mermaids massage is called Viejo Lobo.

While Viejo Lobo is best known for their great steaks dinners, they make pretty good main-dish salads. I've often had their Tuna salad for $70 pesos (at my request they add fresh sliced avocado) and their very good chicken salads for 10 pesos more. Much more than a side dinner salad, their main salads are delicious meals by themselves.

I've never had an unsettled stomach or other gastronomic problemos after eating at Viejo Lobo. The primary green ingredients of their salads come straight out of a Kirkland bag of ready-made salad, presumably purchased at Costco. This small restaurant is located directly across the street (Coahuila Ave.) from Las Chevelas.

[Jjj101]

Fish taco from a hole in the wall place directly across the street from the Hotel Velario is pretty good. It serves up very fresh generous portion for only 12 p.

[ScatManDoo]

Fish taco from a hole in the wall place directly across the street from the Hotel Velario is pretty good. It serves up very fresh generous portion for only 12 p.Jjj101 is talking about Tito's Tacos, and I agree that their tacos are the bomb.

A little tip for healthier eaters: Most of Tito's Tacos variety of fish tacos use battered, deep fried pieces of fish. But you don't have to order them that way.

Many of the fish tacos at Tito's Tacos can be ordered "Sin Harina" for a healthier option.

Instead of coating the fish fillets in some type of beer batter, and then deep frying them, the cooks instead place the fish 'finger fillets' directly on the grill, sin batter. By grilling the fish instead of deep frying them, you eliminate that unhealthy part of the fish's preparation. While I realize this option is contrary to "baja style" way of preparing fish tacos, it is better for most people's overall health to avoid deep fried foods.

[HorseTrader]

Usually this blog makes me horny. Today it is making me hungry.

[Dickhead]

Please note that any poster who desires a new thread can start one.

[Exoticspirit]

While I realize this option is contrary to "baja style" way of preparing fish tacos, it is better for most people's overall health to avoid deep fried foods.Speaking of health, since I would have the time during my stay there, if I put on gym shorts, tank top and went for a jog, do you think anyone. Dealers, muggers or cops. Would even bother trying to stop me? It should be obvious based on what I'm wearing and doing, I won't be carrying much of anything on me! But it would probably look pretty weird for somebody to go out for a run in Tijuana!

[TomJackin]

But it would probably look pretty weird for somebody to go out for a run in Tijuana!It is not something that you see every day in Tijuana. It would be better for you to find a gym / health club to workout.

Just my 2 lousy pesos.

[TomJackin]

Usually this blog makes me horny. Today it is making me hungry.Maybe this will get you back on the right track!

[GolfSexRroll]

Maybe this will get you back on the right track!Shit. That makes me Hungry and Horny! I could take a BITE out of that ass!

[HorseTrader]

Shit. That makes me Hungry and Horny! I could take a BITE out of that ass!If you look carefully, you will see Tomjackin's trademark teeth marks.

[Dickhead]

I would advise anyone planning on jogging anywhere in MX to first read up on 'la ley de fugo.'

[Captain Solo]

Locals get plenty of exercise running from the cops or running from each other.

Running would probably draw attention to the cops. If you don't understand their language and fail to obey, they may shot.

It's much better to do all exercises in bed with the sexy chicas, or just walk up and down the stairs of hotel Cascada. I found a few very good-looking chicas that way.

[GolfSexRroll]

If you look carefully, you will see Tomjackin's trademark teeth marks.I think you are right. I had to Enlarge the pic to see it. Jajaja!

[Exoticspirit]

During my first trip to Tijuana, I did not bother walking along Revolucion. I'm assuming that many of you have already. Upon your return trips, would you bother going back to Ave Revolucion for any reason?

[Phordphan]

During my first trip to Tijuana, I did not bother walking along Revolucion. I'm assuming that many of you have already. Upon your return trips, would you bother going back to Ave Revolucion for any reason?Heavens, no! Stay away. It's filled with many scary and dangerous places. Places like fine restaurants, clubs, live music venues. Worst of all, there are bunches of Mexicans. I see no reason to leave the sewer known as La Coahuila.

[TomJackin]

Heavens, no! Stay away. It's filled with many scary and dangerous places. Places like fine restaurants, clubs, live music venues. Worst of all, there are bunches of Mexicans. I see no reason to leave the sewer known as La Coahuila.The things that scares me the most are the Zonkeys!

Damn Phordphan, you never fail me for a good story or laugh; thanks!

[GolfSexRroll]

Heavens, no! Stay away. It's filled with many scary and dangerous places. Places like fine restaurants, clubs, live music venues. Worst of all, there are bunches of Mexicans. I see no reason to leave the sewer known as La Coahuila.DAMN! Mexico is SOOOO dangerous! I would NEVER tell anyone to go here! I would say upward of 90% of these who I know in San Diego believe this! Including my family and most of my gringo friends! MEXICANS. GOD FORBID! Why would ANYONE endanger themselves going to a third world heathen country when you live in AMERICA's FINAST CITY? Oh, I don't know? Even a larger amount of mongers on this and other sites are shitting their pants about walking in Tijuana. Have any of you guys been in a large city? Tijuana may not be the safest place, but if you are carefull (like any city) you should be OK! Of course you should not venture into areas that are shady (LIKE ANY CITY in AMERICA) . But for those who are still afraid, yes stay away. Be safe in you condo. There is a lot of porn on the internet! Oh yes. There are a lot of fine restaurants in San Diego. And you don't have to cross the border! (for those of you who are not too bright / I am being SARCASTIC, so please don't flame me!)

[Exoticspirit]

And you don't have to cross the border! (for those of you who are not too bright / I am being SARCASTIC, so please don't flame me!)I think what I was trying to get at in terms of Ave Revolucion, is whether there are any shopping or other sights there worthwhile or are they mainly el cheapo trinkets of little value and no real cultural things there that are not tourist rip offs.

[TomJackin]

Just to spice up the thread.

Yes, real photos from a single screen name poster!

[Jackie888]

I think what I was trying to get at in terms of Ave Revolucion, is whether there are any shopping or other sights there worthwhile or are they mainly el cheapo trinkets of little value and no real cultural things there that are not tourist rip offs.No. Not on Revolution. It's a tourist neighborhood. If a shop isn't catering to a tourist, it's catering to Mexicans who work to cater to tourists. And Frankly, many of the shops carry the same merchandise. For example, you will likely find that cool unique shirt that you like in every other shop.

[HorseTrader]

I think what I was trying to get at in terms of Ave Revolucion, is whether there are any shopping or other sights there worthwhile or are they mainly el cheapo trinkets of little value and no real cultural things there that are not tourist rip offs.It is largely for tourists, but still worth the stroll. Go to the arch, then south on revolution to about 8th. Head west to constitution and then back north to Zona Norte. Be sure to walk the diagonal near the arch. Revolution is mostly tourist stuff while constitution is a little less touristy. Many junk shops to visit, but also lots of good food and drinks. There is a huge dance club on Revolution just north of 8th; can't remember the name but it is worth a stop. Very easy access from my prior favored Tijuana hotel, Ticuan.

Being an old guy, I can't fuck as often as some of us. I'm always looking for stuff to do between girls, and this is one of my regular daytime walks. I haven't done it at night so I won't comment about evening safety.

[Exoticspirit]

Many junk shops to visit, but also lots of good food and drinks. I was in Cozumel years ago and there were artists on the street doing these nice original works of art paintings. I bought two on the spot. Would be nice if there are shops or street vendors who sell original works rather than mass produced souvenirs probably not even made in Mexico. The pieces that resemble old Aztec / Inca / Mayan stuff look neat too but are probably mass produced.

[Phordphan]

I think what I was trying to get at in terms of Ave Revolucion, is whether there are any shopping or other sights there worthwhile or are they mainly el cheapo trinkets of little value and no real cultural things there that are not tourist rip offs.First of all, don't take my word for it. Especially don't take the word of any poster who is so afraid of his own shadow that he won't venture out of the Zona Norte. Go and see for yourself, then post your opinion.

Now, let's define "tourist. " The prototypical gringo tourist was somebody who came to Tijuana for the day, they gawked at stuff, they got their pix taken with the zonkeys, they bought trinkets, maybe they hung out in the upstairs bars along Revu, then went back home at night. A large subset of these were Spring Breakers and college kids, who partied until the wee hours at these same bars. These tourists no longer exist in Tijuana.

Now anybody who tells you that there is nothing but vendors selling trinkets to tourists hasn't been to Revu in a very long time (perhaps never), or has never ventured there after high noon (HorseTrader, I'm not talking about you). There is not enough of the "tourist trade" to support the Revu of old. What tourists exist tend to be Mexican-Americans (partying at night with friends or who have relatives or who work in Tijuana), Chinese group tours and the odd backpacker. You see the occasional gringo at the bar in Ticuan or Caesar's, but they seem to only shuttle between the Zona and their hotel.

There is one nutty poster here who claims that there are 20 - 30 eateries in a 1-block area of the Zona Norte. While this is nonsense, I can probably name at least 20 businesses in the 9-block stretch of Revu that do not cater to tourists. In no particular order, these include fine dining, casual dining, fast food, gay bars, strip clubs, discos, live music clubs, all-night dance clubs, coffee and sandwich places, gambling casinos and sports books, pharmacies, hotels, and the list goes on. Don't forget 6th street, which is a one block section, on either side of Revu, that is positively heaving on Friday and Saturday nights. There are maybe a half-dozen shops selling trinkets during the day.

"If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the religion and avoid the people, you might better stay home. " – James Michener.

[The Tall Man]

First of all, don't take my word for it. Especially don't take the word of any poster who is so afraid of his own shadow that he won't venture out of the Zona Norte. Go and see for yourself, then post your opinion.

Now, let's define "tourist. " The prototypical gringo tourist was somebody who came to Tijuana for the day, they gawked at stuff, they got their pix taken with the zonkeys, they bought trinkets, maybe they hung out in the upstairs bars along Revu, then went back home at night. A large subset of these were Spring Breakers and college kids, who partied until the wee hours at these same bars. These tourists no longer exist in Tijuana.

Now anybody who tells you that there is nothing but vendors selling trinkets to tourists hasn't been to Revu in a very long time (perhaps never), or has never ventured there after high noon (HorseTrader, I'm not talking about you). There is not enough of the "tourist trade" to support the Revu of old. What tourists exist tend to be Mexican-Americans (partying at night with friends or who have relatives or who work in Tijuana), Chinese group tours and the odd backpacker. You see the occasional gringo at the bar in Ticuan or Caesar's, but they seem to only shuttle between the Zona and their hotel.

There is one nutty poster here who claims that there are 20 - 30 eateries in a 1-block area of the Zona Norte. While this is nonsense, I can probably name at least 20 businesses in the 9-block stretch of Revu that do not cater to tourists. In no particular order, these include fine dining, casual dining, fast food, gay bars, strip clubs, discos, live music clubs, all-night dance clubs, coffee and sandwich places, gambling casinos and sports books, pharmacies, hotels, and the list goes on. Don't forget 6th street, which is a one block section, on either side of Revu, that is positively heaving on Friday and Saturday nights. There are maybe a half-dozen shops selling trinkets during the day.

"If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the religion and avoid the people, you might better stay home. " James Michener.Spot on! Could not express it any better or clearer myself even if I tried real hard and long.

The Tall Man.

[Member #4450]

DAMN! Mexico is SOOOO dangerous! I would NEVER tell anyone to go here! I would say upward of 90% of these who I know in San Diego believe this! Including my family and most of my gringo friends! MEXICANS. GOD FORBID! Why would ANYONE endanger themselves going to a third world heathen country when you live in AMERICA's FINAST CITY? Oh, I don't know? Even a larger amount of mongers on this and other sites are shitting their pants about walking in Tijuana. Have any of you guys been in a large city? Tijuana may not be the safest place, but if you are carefull (like any city) you should be OK! Of course you should not venture into areas that are shady (LIKE ANY CITY in AMERICA) . But for those who are still afraid, yes stay away. Be safe in you condo. There is a lot of porn on the internet! Oh yes. There are a lot of fine restaurants in San Diego. And you don't have to cross the border! (for those of you who are not too bright / I am being SARCASTIC, so please don't flame me!)Come on Guys fine restaurants and fine clubs really? I guess you never had the real good stuff before.

Tijuana is only good for one thing cheap pussy and if you want fine exotic stuff go to Beverly Hills there's plenty of fine restaurants and the hottest girls on earth, now if you don't have the dough like most of us just go to Tijuana, but STOP making it sound like Tijuana is the top of the world you guys need to check Socal more often. Who the fuck wants to eat Chinese listeria food in Tijuana If you want the best Chinese food on earth go to San Gabriel, El monte or the bay area, ask the Asian people and see if I'm wrong.

BTW, Tijuana is more dangerous than most SOCaL cities, walking around Tijuana away from the zona is dumb don't encourage others to do the same because you are in a suicide mission.

The best Mexican food is here too in SoCal you just need to know where to go try East LA, El Monte. Eating often in Tijuana is playing Russian roulette with your intestines ask me why.

[GolfSexRroll]

First of all, don't take my word for it. Especially don't take the word of any poster who is so afraid of his own shadow that he won't venture out of the Zona Norte. Go and see for yourself, then post your opinion.

Now, let's define "tourist. " The prototypical gringo tourist was somebody who came to Tijuana for the day, they gawked at stuff, they got their pix taken with the zonkeys, they bought trinkets, maybe they hung out in the upstairs bars along Revu, then went back home at night. A large subset of these were Spring Breakers and college kids, who partied until the wee hours at these same bars. These tourists no longer exist in Tijuana.

Now anybody who tells you that there is nothing but vendors selling trinkets to tourists hasn't been to Revu in a very long time (perhaps never), or has never ventured there after high noon (HorseTrader, I'm not talking about you). There is not enough of the "tourist trade" to support the Revu of old. What tourists exist tend to be Mexican-Americans (partying at night with friends or who have relatives or who work in Tijuana), Chinese group tours and the odd backpacker. You see the occasional gringo at the bar in Ticuan or Caesar's, but they seem to only shuttle between the Zona and their hotel.

There is one nutty poster here who claims that there are 20 - 30 eateries in a 1-block area of the Zona Norte. While this is nonsense, I can probably name at least 20 businesses in the 9-block stretch of Revu that do not cater to tourists. In no particular order, these include fine dining, casual dining, fast food, gay bars, strip clubs, discos, live music clubs, all-night dance clubs, coffee and sandwich places, gambling casinos and sports books, pharmacies, hotels, and the list goes on. Don't forget 6th street, which is a one block section, on either side of Revu, that is positively heaving on Friday and Saturday nights. There are maybe a half-dozen shops selling trinkets during the day.

"If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the religion and avoid the people, you might better stay home. " James Michener.I agree! Well put. There is a lot of misinformation being posted, out of FEAR! Be carefull! But fearfull- I don't know?

[Phordphan]

Come on Guys fine restaurants and fine clubs really? I guess you never had the real good stuff before.

Tijuana is only good for one thing cheap pussy and if you want fine exotic stuff go to Beverly Hills there's plenty of fine restaurants and the hottest girls on earth, now if you don't have the dough like most of us just go to Tijuana, but STOP making it sound like Tijuana is the top of the world you guys need to check Socal more often. Who the fuck wants to eat Chinese listeria food in Tijuana If you want the best Chinese food on earth go to San Gabriel, El monte or the bay area, ask the Asian people and see if I'm wrong.

BTW, Tijuana is more dangerous than most SOCaL cities, walking around Tijuana away from the zona is dumb don't encourage others to do the same because you are in a suicide mission.

The best Mexican food is here too in SoCal you just need to know where to go try East LA, El Monte. Eating often in Tijuana is playing Russian roulette with your intestines ask me why.Beverly Hills (a.k.a Tehran West) places are so vastly overpriced they simply aren't worth the money. Now West Hollywood has loads of great places to eat, mostly along Sunset. Most of the newer, trendier places tend to be there, not in BH. But nobody said the fine dining was absolutely on par with the finest available in SoCal. What we said (or at least what I maintain) is that you simply can't get the same value for money anywhere in SoCal. Just as an example, Mision 19 may not be 100% as good as the best places I've eaten in SoCal. But it's damned close, and at a fraction of the price. However, you are correct about the Chinese food. Decent Chinese is one thing Tijuana does not have.

I've eaten in loads of places in Boyle Heights, El Monte, East LA, Baldwin Park, etc. Etc. For the money you still can't beat the food in Tijuana, IMHO. Taste is subjective, and I'm not going to debate that. But SoCal certainly doesn't have a lock on great Mexican food at prices far less than SoCal.

But, as you seem to have strong opinions, please back them up with some personal experience. That's what this board is for.

What sort of trouble have you gotten into when walking around away from the Zona? If it's a "suicide mission" you must have some experience to back up that statement. I, for one, want to hear about it.

Why is eating in Tijuana playing "Russian Roulette?" Lots of Mexicans do it. I got Salmonella (probably) once, something like 18 years ago, from a fish taco on the wharf in Ensenada. Before that I got something nasty in Catavina (small town on the road to La Paz) maybe 30 years ago. Other than that, I've not had any problems with food in Baja, knock wood. What happened to you? Where and what did you eat?

[Member #4450]

Beverly Hills (a.k.a Tehran West) places are so vastly overpriced they simply aren't worth the money. Now West Hollywood has loads of great places to eat, mostly along Sunset. Most of the newer, trendier places tend to be there, not in BH. But nobody said the fine dining was absolutely on par with the finest available in SoCal. What we said (or at least what I maintain) is that you simply can't get the same value for money anywhere in SoCal. Just as an example, Mision 19 may not be 100% as good as the best places I've eaten in SoCal. But it's damned close, and at a fraction of the price. However, you are correct about the Chinese food. Decent Chinese is one thing Tijuana does not have.

I've eaten in loads of places in Boyle Heights, El Monte, East LA, Baldwin Park, etc. Etc. For the money you still can't beat the food in Tijuana, IMHO. Taste is subjective, and I'm not going to debate that. But SoCal certainly doesn't have a lock on great Mexican food at prices far less than SoCal.

But, as you seem to have strong opinions, please back them up with some personal experience. That's what this board is for.

What sort of trouble have you gotten into when walking around away from the Zona? If it's a "suicide mission" you must have some experience to back up that statement. I, for one, want to hear about it.

Why is eating in Tijuana playing "Russian Roulette?" Lots of Mexicans do it. I got Salmonella (probably) once, something like 18 years ago, from a fish taco on the wharf in Ensenada. Before that I got something nasty in Catavina (small town on the road to La Paz) maybe 30 years ago. Other than that, I've not had any problems with food in Baja, knock wood. What happened to you? Where and what did you eat?You must be an old fart if you were in la Paz 30 years ago what are you doing now in Tijuana you're too old for sex so you go for the tacos?. Mexico food is not inexpensive, you get what you pay. Tijuana food vendors are not cheap either, I can pay one dollar tacos here in SoCal a pizza in Tijuana is $15 that is cheap to you? I have had a lot better quality food here in the good old USA.

Have you ever went to Calimax to check the food prices why don't you go and get us a report of your great deal findings. I personally don't like to get cheap when it comes to food I like to enjoy good clean food don't care to save a lousy buck on a dinner.

I like Tijuana because is girl cheap for my budget but never care for the fine "restaurants" they have in Tijuana.

I too got food poisoning from eating in Ensenada and on another year wifey got sick too. Mexicans living in Mexico have a stronger immune to the bacteria in their food that some of us don't have, that's why they can eat without getting sick.

Ask a Doctor for more details.

I go to Tijuana for the low cost entertainment not for the food, there's much better food here in SoCal you just need to know where to go.

[Exoticspirit]

Tijuana is only good for one thing cheap pussy .Like some of you other fellows, I'm not going to be able to have sex during all of my waking hours while in Tijuana so I will have down time. I am an avid cultural art collector but I have a feeling that I'll probably return from Tijuana empty handed as far as any possible acquisitions go.

[Caprese7]

The first time I went to Tijuana, I remember parking on the CA side / San Ysidro at a lot that only charged somewhere in the range of $15 or so.

But, on my last visit (roughly 6 months ago), the same parking place charged $30+ since I was in Tijuana overnight.

Anybody have any suggestions about the best place to park on the CA side?

Heading down there next Wed. Or Thurs. 5/20-5/21.

[Jackie888]

Like some of you other fellows, I'm not going to be able to have sex during all of my waking hours while in Tijuana so I will have down time. I am an avid cultural art collector but I have a feeling that I'll probably return from Tijuana empty handed as far as any possible acquisitions go.There is an Art Gallery underneath that bridge that takes you to the zona. There in addition to the popular copies are where you will be able to find some pieces that you may like for under $50. While not bona fide Frida Rivera pieces, they are oil on canvas, framed, some depicting life in Mexico, some still life (mexican fruits are different) that should depict Mexican culture. I was tempted to obtain some, but never figured it out on how to store it at Adelitas or HK till 12 am when I generally return to the US.

[Captain Solo]

For better arts, in the Mercado de Artesania you can find a few painters' shops who sell their original paintings. Or they can do custom hand painted portraits from pictures, but their rates are not that cheap. For good-quality, detailed copies, it's like $1,000 for a 16 x20 oil on canvas. You can have deals for $500, but the painting may look like comic-book quality. Hehe.

Jackie888 mentioned an artist shop under the bridge in that area. He sells his own paintings, but also paints copies of the old masterpieces, or he can imbed your favorite art posters on canvas and mount them in gold-leaf frames for cheap. He has large stock of poster-size masterpieces.

There used to be dozens shops in the narrow alleys of the mercado, selling colorful handicrafts of all kinds, lots of Christian-related arts, scuptures, hand carvings, papier marche ect. That make nice presents for Christmas. But the art shops have been decimated since 2008 by lack of tourists, who used to walk over on the Freedom trail. A lot of the shops have closed down. Don't know how many are still in business.

The shops along I5 going back to the US near the border sell a lot of interesting stuff. Shops on Revolution sells cowboy hats, boots, leather jackets.

Unless you drive over in a pick up truck, don't know how much you can pack in suitcases to go home by air.

[Caprese7]

Here! 5 hours away.


Am I the only unlucky one that lives 3 hours away from Tijuana? Do you all guys are living in San Diego County? Any OC or LA say Here!

[Exoticspirit]

There used to be dozens shops in the narrow alleys of the mercado, selling colorful handicrafts of all kinds, lots of Christian-related arts, scuptures, hand carvings, papier marche ect. That make nice presents for Christmas. But the art shops have been decimated since 2008 by lack of tourists, who used to walk over on the Freedom trail. A lot of the shops have closed down. Don't know how many are still in business.Wasn't this collection of shops along the path just before you get to the pedestrian bridge over the 'river'? I remember taking some stairs up. It's a real shame that these are gone as they use to at least make the area a bit more populated too.

As for the gallery under the bridge, which bridge is this? Not the pedestrian one going over the 'river'?

[Captain Solo]

Yep. The shops are right at the foot of the bridge that crosses the Tijuana river, from the plaza behind the McDonalds, to Freedom path that leads to El Arco and then La Zona Roja. Hehe. Many shops are still there as they actually manufacture the arts and scuptures on the spots.

Lots of intricate hand carvings in bone that look like ivory. These are good values. I bought a hand-carved La Pieta by Michelangelo, Mary holding her dead son Jesus in her lap, that was just exquisite. But it just looked so very sad, I could not bear to look at it. I could not stand to see a fine woman in such pain, so I had to give it away to someone stronger and more devoted, who can take it. La Pieta exemplifies the Chistian ethos. My friend cherishes that sculpture.

There are also many other carvings and hand painted ceramic statues of angels ect. Mexicans are very good at Christian-themed arts. Look at the attached pic. There are no naked butts and boobs, so the heathens may want to close their sinful eyes.

Check out Tijuana's artsy area and report what's left of it. Tijuana's pussy market has survived the recession fairly well, but we just cannot drink, eat or fuck the arts. Hehehe.


Wasn't this collection of shops along the path just before you get to the pedestrian bridge over the 'river'? I remember taking some stairs up. It's a real shame that these are gone as they use to at least make the area a bit more populated too.

As for the gallery under the bridge, which bridge is this? Not the pedestrian one going over the 'river'?

[TomJackin]

The first time I went to Tijuana, I remember parking on the CA side / San Ysidro at a lot that only charged somewhere in the range of $15 or so.

But, on my last visit (roughly 6 months ago), the same parking place charged $30+ since I was in Tijuana overnight.

Anybody have any suggestions about the best place to park on the CA side?

Heading down there next Wed. Or Thurs. 5/20-5/21.The UETA duty free lot is 7 bucks per day on a weekday, 10 on Sat and Sun. But if you part there on a Friday, you will get the weekday rate over the weekend.

[Exoticspirit]

For those of you who have stayed at both hotels, which do you prefer and why? I realize that HK / Cascadas is much busier than Tropical / Rizo de Oro but since the HK girls are willing to go to the Oro hotel and the fact that it might be a quieter place to sleep, wouldn't it be a better place for overnight stays?

[Member #4450]

Here! 5 hours away.Let me guess Santa Barbara?

[Member #4450]

There is an Art Gallery underneath that bridge that takes you to the zona. There in addition to the popular copies are where you will be able to find some pieces that you may like for under $50. While not bona fide Frida Rivera pieces, they are oil on canvas, framed, some depicting life in Mexico, some still life (mexican fruits are different) that should depict Mexican culture. I was tempted to obtain some, but never figured it out on how to store it at Adelitas or HK till 12 am when I generally return to the US.HA ha too funny never crossed my mind going to Tijuana for art and craft, Seriously I can't find myself looking at art and crafts I have better things to watch when I'm in Tijuana.

When I do tourism I stay away from Tijuana I usually go to Ensenada to relax and fish. I love it down there. Most arts in Tijuana are cheap China made. I do like the big plant pots and the rustic furniture they have. Anyone knows where can I buy a handmade Mexican Spanish guitar?

[Exoticspirit]

I was tempted to obtain some, but never figured it out on how to store it at Adelitas or HK till 12 am when I generally return to the US.I would think that you might be able to tip somebody to keep it behind the bar or in a coat check until you depart.

[Misteroc]

The first time I went to Tijuana, I remember parking on the CA side / San Ysidro at a lot that only charged somewhere in the range of $15 or so.

But, on my last visit (roughly 6 months ago), the same parking place charged $30+ since I was in Tijuana overnight.

Anybody have any suggestions about the best place to park on the CA side?

Heading down there next Wed. Or Thurs. 5/20-5/21.I park in the lot behind the Jack In The Box, along the freight railroad tracks. On your left as you drive toward the border patrol building, cross over the tram tracks and drive past the JIB, turn left into the lot. $5 with a booth-ensconced attendant, IIRC.

[Gsil247]

For those of you who have stayed at both hotels, which do you prefer and why? I realize that HK / Cascadas is much busier than Tropical / Rizo de Oro but since the HK girls are willing to go to the Oro hotel and the fact that it might be a quieter place to sleep, wouldn't it be a better place for overnight stays?For the regular rooms, I prefer Cascadas only because it's the same price and your right above HK. You have a better chance of avoiding trouble by not walking the streets at night, which I'm a weirdo and I like doing at 2 in the morning on a Saturday. But if you want a suite, get the one at Rizo. I tried to reserve the master at Cascadas a few weeks ago only to find it was unavailable. They told me the master at Rizo was free, cheaper and just as nice. I thought they were full of shit, but I was wrong. The lobby is not as good but that's only the first five minutes. Then you have to make a deposit of $50 which I thought was the trying to rip me off. Them they handed me the remote for the AC (which Cascadas charges $10 just for that), and put me in I think was room 59 or 54. First room downstairs. Anyhow, the room is so big it has two desperate rooms with two beds just but no door. I thought it was too damn big just for me, but worth it. Bottom line, you get the $50 back as they have to inspect the room to make sure you didn't fuck it up or steal pillows. Well worth it for me, and they acknowledge the HK VIP card. I'm am accountant so I know how much 20% is.

BTW, I'm still learning the Tijuana experience, but I almost felt like offering that extra room to someone just because I felt like it was a waste. Anyhow, that's my 2 cents.

[HorseTrader]

I park in the lot behind the Jack In The Box, along the freight railroad tracks. On your left as you drive toward the border patrol building, cross over the tram tracks and drive past the JIB, turn left into the lot. $5 with a booth-ensconced attendant, IIRC.That cheap JIB lot rate is only good for a few hours (7?). One minute over and the price doubles. I use the UETA lot for longer stays because the posted rate is for 24 hours. See tomjackin post for price details. UETA lot is about 5 minutes of extra walking in each direction. I only use the JIB lot when I make a very quick visit to Tijuana. Never had a security problem at either lot.

[ScatManDoo]

For the regular rooms, I prefer Cascadas only because it's the same price and your right above HK. You have a better chance of avoiding trouble by not walking the streets at night, which I'm a weirdo and I like doing at 2 in the morning on a Saturday. But if you want a suite, get the one at Rizo. I tried to reserve the master at Cascadas a few weeks ago only to find it was unavailable. They told me the master at Rizo was free, cheaper and just as nice. I thought they were full of shit, but I was wrong. The lobby is not as good but that's only the first five minutes. Then you have to make a deposit of $50 which I thought was the trying to rip me off. Them they handed me the remote for the AC (which Cascadas charges $10 just for that), and put me in I think was room 59 or 54. First room downstairs. Anyhow, the room is so big it has two desperate rooms with two beds just but no door. I thought it was too damn big just for me, but worth it. Bottom line, you get the $50 back as they have to inspect the room to make sure you didn't fuck it up or steal pillows. Well worth it for me, and they acknowledge the HK VIP card. I'm am accountant so I know how much 20% is.

BTW, I'm still learning the Tijuana experience, but I almost felt like offering that extra room to someone just because I felt like it was a waste. Anyhow, that's my 2 cents.You stayed in Rizo de Oro room #59.

Rizo de Oro has two different jacuzzi rooms that I know of. The other one has just a single large room and I think the jacuzzi is oval shaped.

I really liked room #59 (where you stayed) and for that Master Suite they will allow two mongers to register for the room and issue two room keys.

In December I rented room #59 on a Monday night. With my HK VIP card I got the room at 50% off, which made it only $40 a night. The main room is very large with a canopied king-size bed, tantra chair and large rectangular 2-reclining persons Jacuzzi. The second, smaller, semi-private room in that Master Suite has a full size bed. Both rooms in the larger Master suite have flat screen TVs and small wardrobe cabinets.

I paid in pesos and this was just after HK and their other related businesses changed to using a 13 to 1 house exchange rate.

So the Master suite rented for 520 pesos with that 50% discount. I also had to give a 500 p deposit for: two room keys, one TV remote, one safe key and one A / see remote control.

When I checked out they returned my deposit in US currency. $50 US. So I actually made a profit on the refundable deposits!.

The glass shower had a color-changing light bulb. The only downside to the Master Suite in RdeO room #59 is that it has no refrigerator.

[TomJackin]

I park in the lot behind the Jack In The Box, along the freight railroad tracks. On your left as you drive toward the border patrol building, cross over the tram tracks and drive past the JIB, turn left into the lot. $5 with a booth-ensconced attendant, IIRC.That lot is now $7. 00 for 8 hours, thus one day will cost you 21 bucks.

Again, The UETA duty free lot is 7 bucks per day on a weekday, 10 on Sat and Sun. But if you part there on a Friday, you will get the weekday rate over the weekend.

[Exoticspirit]

For the regular rooms, I prefer Cascadas only because it's the same price and your right above HK. You have a better chance of avoiding trouble by not walking the streets at night, which I'm a weirdo and I like doing at 2 in the morning on a Saturday. But if you want a suite, get the one at Rizo.Any difference in noise levels between the Cascadas and Rizo?

[ScatManDoo]

Any difference in noise levels between the Cascadas and Rizo?Rizo de Oro is quieter at night, but that is because of how they house their guests.

In the original four story structure, the rooms are all to the east of the oficina. These older rooms are typically rented to the chicas.

They built a separate two-story annex to to the north. To access the north annex you go up a half stairway, take an interior bridge that goes over a back alley, and then walk down half a stairway to the second floor of the annex. Very few, if any, of the rooms in this north annex are rented to the chicas. So when you stay in these rooms you are less likely to be woken in the early morning hours as the chicas talk loudly and clank their zapatos as they return to their rooms after work.

Just around two years ago the Rizo de Oro hotel expanded again when the owner acquired the seven story tower that was built on NE corner of Coahuila and Nino Heroes. The seven story tower has an elevator and its rooms located behind (west of) the oficina and each floor only has six or seven rooms. The tower rooms are probably the quietest late at night and many of the rooms have terrific views.

By comparison, Cascades seems to behave like a three ring circus with much activity and noise in their large hallways during all hours.

[Gsil247]

Any difference in noise levels between the Cascadas and Rizo?Yes. At Cascadas you can hear all the music at HK and a lot of putas yelling at 5 in the god damn morning. At Rizo, no club, less people, but I still recommend buying a pair of ear plugs. BTW, if you stay at Rizo, the AC unit is right above the main bed. I went crazy looking for it.

Hopefully this was helpful. I'm usually the one asking questions. I've never offered experience to help. Guess I'm becoming a season veteran.

[Jackie888]

That cheap JIB lot rate is only good for a few hours (7?). One minute over and the price doubles. I use the UETA lot for longer stays because the posted rate is for 24 hours. See tomjackin post for price details. UETA lot is about 5 minutes of extra walking in each direction. I only use the JIB lot when I make a very quick visit to Tijuana. Never had a security problem at either lot.I park at the UETA because the lot has a lot of spaces to choose from even on the weekends, and I prefer my car under a nice giant light to deter theft. The other reason I prefer this lot is that it is fully fenced, they have security patrol the lot every other hour. And on the rare occassions that I returned at 3 am, they allowed me to catch some zzz jn the car. And knowing that the lot is partoled and fully fenced gives me more peace at mind during my nap till sunrise.

And the $0.25 clean bathroom is a big plus in my books.

[LaterGreen]

But if you want a suite, get the one at Rizo.I hear Cascadas has spotty / poor WiFi (someone correct me if that is no longer the case, please!

What is the internet like in Rizo de Oro?

For me to stay a day or 2 in Tijuana I need internet so people in the office see me answering emails and figure I'm hard at work.

[Phordphan]

You must be an old fart if you were in la Paz 30 years ago what are you doing now in Tijuana you're too old for sex so you go for the tacos?. Mexico food is not inexpensive, you get what you pay. Tijuana food vendors are not cheap either, I can pay one dollar tacos here in SoCal a pizza in Tijuana is $15 that is cheap to you? I have had a lot better quality food here in the good old USA.

Have you ever went to Calimax to check the food prices why don't you go and get us a report of your great deal findings. I personally don't like to get cheap when it comes to food I like to enjoy good clean food don't care to save a lousy buck on a dinner.

I like Tijuana because is girl cheap for my budget but never care for the fine "restaurants" they have in Tijuana.

I too got food poisoning from eating in Ensenada and on another year wifey got sick too. Mexicans living in Mexico have a stronger immune to the bacteria in their food that some of us don't have, that's why they can eat without getting sick.

Ask a Doctor for more details.

I go to Tijuana for the low cost entertainment not for the food, there's much better food here in SoCal you just need to know where to go.Sorry for the late response. I was actually in Tijuana yesterday, braving the dangers of the suicide mission, fighting off the rateros populating Plaza Carrousel, and spending the better part of 3 hours with Miss Flaquita at a nice motel along the very dangerous Via Rapida (total damage 340 pesos for the room, 1,000 pesos for her).

Anyway, I'll ignore the personal insults and stick with the subject. Your post is long on hot air and conjecture, but very short on actual facts and comparisons. Let me help you out; when you say that A sucks, and be is better, cheaper, better value, whatever, then it bolsters your argument to provide actual comparisons. If you have any. Otherwise, you don't have an opinion, you have a prejudice. They are different.

So, I'll lead by example. Tacos Aaron (next to Office Depot, Zona Rio) has the best Spanish Chorizo tacos I've had. Under $1. AFAIK they are not available in SoCal at any price. The birria de res tacos at the stand at 4th and NH are the best I've had. Judging by the throngs of locals surrounding it, I'm not alone. The tortillas are standard size, but they barely contain the amount of meat they pile onto it. Under $1. Nothing like that I've found in SoCal. Now it's your turn. You know all the "good places," so post a few that have the equivalent to the above, at similar prices.

Fine dining: I've posted comparisons of Mision 19, Caesar's, Chiki Jai, Cien Anos, and others. I've compared them to places like Water Grill, Gordon Ramsay at The London, Red O, etc. You know the good places, so post a few comparos where one can get the equivalent, at similar prices, in SoCal (Beverly Hills, I believe you said).

Pizza? Good (IMHO) pizza is just beginning to penetrate the Tijuana market. So, I rarely eat pizza. The last time I did was a couple of months ago at a little place specializing in "artisan" pizzas, located in Otay near Applebee's. They were wood-fired "individual" pizzas, much like what you might find in Northern Italy. IIRC, two pizzas, and two sangrias or wine (I forget which) came to under $20. The pizzas were rather good. Maybe you don't know the good places? Oh, and yes, a nice meal for two, under $20, is very inexpensive by today's standards. The equivalent in my part of SoCal runs between $40 and $50, except at my fave noodle shops.

I don't go into Calimax often, but I go to Soriana frequently. I can feed 3 adults for a week on approximately 1,000 pesos. Can you do that in SoCal?

BTW, if you think $80 per half-hour, in a very substandard room, is cheap pussy, boy do I have news for you.

Lastly, you studiously ignored my requests to expound on your "suicide mission" comment. As you have such strong feelings about venturing outside the zona, please tell us what bad experiences you had.

As an aside, if you look at it objectively, the Zona is a "safe" as it is because it requires virtually 24-hour police presence to keep a lid on things. I can't think of many areas of Tijuana that require that level of police presence.

OK. Over to you. You know "where to go," so name names, compare and contrast with their Tijuana counterparts. I'm interested, and I'd like to visit your "good places" and form my own opinions. That is, unless you're simply talking out of your ass. In which case you should stick with what you know and stop reinforcing false stereotypes.

[Phordphan]

Wasn't this collection of shops along the path just before you get to the pedestrian bridge over the 'river'? I remember taking some stairs up. It's a real shame that these are gone as they use to at least make the area a bit more populated too.

As for the gallery under the bridge, which bridge is this? Not the pedestrian one going over the 'river'?Captain's, or Wing's, or whatever handle he's using these days, directions are a bit muddy. The Mercado de Artesanias is technically located on 2nd and Ocampo, although some would say 2nd and Negrete.

Here's a video link. It's in Spanish but they clearly tell you where it's located. The video is about 4 years old now, so who knows how many vendors are left. But it does give you a good idea of the objets the'art available there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkLnvqiMDSY

From the Arch, go 1 block south to 2nd. Go three blocks east to Ocampo. Or, if you're crossing by foot, the first main street you come to, after crossing the bridge west-bound, is Negrete. You can go south on Negrete to 2nd.

[Captain Solo]

Picking nits again, are we?

The art shops and galleries are on the Freedom footpath, starting at the foot of the foot bridge crossing the Tijuana river.

From La Zona, head to El Arco then follows the Freedom path East 2 blocks. It will take you to the North end of the Mercado.

The South end on Calle 2nd has these giant concrete water fountains that need to be carried home in a truck.

[Gsil247]

I hear Cascadas has spotty / poor WiFi (someone correct me if that is no longer the case, please!

What is the internet like in Rizo de Oro?

For me to stay a day or 2 in Tijuana I need internet so people in the office see me answering emails and figure I'm hard at work.As of last month, both there WiFi sucked. It comes and it goes. Longest it will last is about 30 seconds on my iPhone 5's. I was able to play game using the internet on my phone, but even sprint sent me a letter asking if it was me. I had to use data since I can't live without my games.

[Jackie888]

As of last month, both there WiFi sucked. It comes and it goes. Longest it will last is about 30 seconds on my iPhone 5's. I was able to play game using the internet on my phone, but even sprint sent me a letter asking if it was me. I had to use data since I can't live without my games.I was messing around with my I5. I was watching some porn on it in Tropicals (hey I'm a Horndog) and the reception was not too bad. But it is choppy, and the reception goes on and off at will. Do you like being shot at while your character freezes?

[Member #4450]

Sorry for the late response. I was actually in Tijuana yesterday, braving the dangers of the suicide mission, fighting off the rateros populating Plaza Carrousel, and spending the better part of 3 hours with Miss Flaquita at a nice motel along the very dangerous Via Rapida (total damage 340 pesos for the room, 1,000 pesos for her).

Anyway, I'll ignore the personal insults and stick with the subject. Your post is long on hot air and conjecture, but very short on actual facts and comparisons. Let me help you out; when you say that A sucks, and be is better, cheaper, better value, whatever, then it bolsters your argument to provide actual comparisons. If you have any. Otherwise, you don't have an opinion, you have a prejudice. They are different.

So, I'll lead by example. Tacos Aaron (next to Office Depot, Zona Rio) has the best Spanish Chorizo tacos I've had. Under $1. AFAIK they are not available in SoCal at any price. The birria de res tacos at the stand at 4th and NH are the best I've had. Judging by the throngs of locals surrounding it, I'm not alone. The tortillas are standard size, but they barely contain the amount of meat they pile onto it. Under $1. Nothing like that I've found in SoCal. Now it's your turn. You know all the "good places," so post a few that have the equivalent to the above, at similar prices.

Fine dining: I've posted comparisons of Mision 19, Caesar's, Chiki Jai, Cien Anos, and others. I've compared them to places like Water Grill, Gordon Ramsay at The London, Red O, etc. You know the good places, so post a few comparos where one can get the equivalent, at similar prices, in SoCal (Beverly Hills, I believe you said).

Pizza? Good (IMHO) pizza is just beginning to penetrate the Tijuana market. So, I rarely eat pizza. The last time I did was a couple of months ago at a little place specializing in "artisan" pizzas, located in Otay near Applebee's. They were wood-fired "individual" pizzas, much like what you might find in Northern Italy. IIRC, two pizzas, and two sangrias or wine (I forget which) came to under $20. The pizzas were rather good. Maybe you don't know the good places? Oh, and yes, a nice meal for two, under $20, is very inexpensive by today's standards. The equivalent in my part of SoCal runs between $40 and $50, except at my fave noodle shops.

I don't go into Calimax often, but I go to Soriana frequently. I can feed 3 adults for a week on approximately 1,000 pesos. Can you do that in SoCal?

BTW, if you think $80 per half-hour, in a very substandard room, is cheap pussy, boy do I have news for you.

Lastly, you studiously ignored my requests to expound on your "suicide mission" comment. As you have such strong feelings about venturing outside the zona, please tell us what bad experiences you had.

As an aside, if you look at it objectively, the Zona is a "safe" as it is because it requires virtually 24-hour police presence to keep a lid on things. I can't think of many areas of Tijuana that require that level of police presence.

OK. Over to you. You know "where to go," so name names, compare and contrast with their Tijuana counterparts. I'm interested, and I'd like to visit your "good places" and form my own opinions. That is, unless you're simply talking out of your ass. In which case you should stick with what you know and stop reinforcing false stereotypes.You sound like you have to stick to Tijuana and have no experience in good eating but McDonalds and AM PM. Does all you know to eat is "TACOS"?

Let me show you what's having class means my friend. I had the best Peruvian, Argentinian, Italian, Spain and Chinese Mandarin, Chinese Cambodian, and best BBQ you can only dream about. I've been thru every casino restaurant from Reno, Tahoe down to Las Vegas with real chefs that know what fine eating is all about. Eating tacos and tortillas your whole life is what you call great food, sorry but there's more than that.

I like when people think Mexican food is the best, yes maybe because you live in SoCal but sometimes you need to think outside the tortilla. There's no place o restaurant in Tijuana that can compare to a good Mexican restaurant in SoCal. The food there is cheap starting with the low quality cheap beef. Before you comment about good eating you need to educate yourself about world class eating.

Lastly I can give you 100 places for good food you can start by driving 5 and exit in Santa Ana which is little Mexico look around you and you'll find many great restaurants with handmade tortillas and great tasting food.

Wow you're so brave or too dumb by wondering around Tijuana you should try go to the hills at night and show off you courage. You keep asking me for my personal experience with Tijuana crime but I don't have one because I'm too smart and I don't walk outside the zona maybe zona rio but I don't wonder like a dumb gringo in a drug war zone. You Can find all Tijuana crime info you need under "Policiaca" section in frontera info, El Mexicano newspaper then maybe then you realize that you're not too smart.

[Phordphan]

You sound like you have to stick to Tijuana and have no experience in good eating but McDonalds and AM PM. Does all you know to eat is "TACOS"?

Let me show you what's having class means my friend. I had the best Peruvian, Argentinian, Italian, Spain and Chinese Mandarin, Chinese Cambodian, and best BBQ you can only dream about. I've been thru every casino restaurant from Reno, Tahoe down to Las Vegas with real chefs that know what fine eating is all about. Eating tacos and tortillas your whole life is what you call great food, sorry but there's more than that.

I like when people think Mexican food is the best, yes maybe because you live in SoCal but sometimes you need to think outside the tortilla. There's no place o restaurant in Tijuana that can compare to a good Mexican restaurant in SoCal. The food there is cheap starting with the low quality cheap beef. Before you comment about good eating you need to educate yourself about world class eating.

Lastly I can give you 100 places for good food you can start by driving 5 and exit in Santa Ana which is little Mexico look around you and you'll find many great restaurants with handmade tortillas and great tasting food.

Wow you're so brave or too dumb by wondering around Tijuana you should try go to the hills at night and show off you courage. You keep asking me for my personal experience with Tijuana crime but I don't have one because I'm too smart and I don't walk outside the zona maybe zona rio but I don't wonder like a dumb gringo in a drug war zone. You Can find all Tijuana crime info you need under "Policiaca" section in frontera info, El Mexicano newspaper then maybe then you realize that you're not too smart.Ahh. OK. So you were simply talking out of your ass. I suspected as much.

Look dumbshit, you mentioned all the great taco places in East LA that you were privy to, I didn't. You claim to know all the great places to get bargains, better food, cheaper prices, better value, etc. Etc. You claim to know all the Mexican places where the food's better and cheaper. But you can't back any of your BS up with personal experience. Typical. Now you want to change the subject and tell us what an expert foodie you are because you went to Vegas. BFD.

I have had Cambodian, Chinese, Spanish, Italian, Sri Lankan, Thai, Vietnamese, Burmese, Venezuelan, Honduran, to name but a few, in their respective countries. What's that you say about world class eating? You don't know the meaning of the word. BTW, James Beard, any anybody who knows anything about cuisine (this lets you out) knows there is no such thing as Mandarin cuisine. It's a made-up name for advertising purposes. But we'll leave your ignorance about that for another day. Yes, I, too, have eaten in most of the large Vegas casinos. Some (Comme Ca) are great, others (one of the Emerils places) sucked, and some (Gordon Ramsay Steak) are way overpriced. But that's beside point. Give us some examples, Mr. World Class Gourmand. Your bullshit tires me. Come up with some examples of all this world class dining where somebody in the know (like you) can get equivalent quality, service and value to their counterparts in Tijuana. You started this nonsense, so put up or shut up. I won't hold my breath.

Since you won't leave the Mexican food thing alone, start by naming, oh 5 of your 100 places in Santa Ana. I drive through Santa Ana frequently, I'm sure I can find them. Why don't you include some of your secret places in Beverly Hills or East LA?

OK. Since you've never been to any fine dining establishment in Tijuana, and therefore can't make any comparisons, let's move on.

Admit it. You are too scared to venture out of the Zona Norte. You don't know fuck all about getting around Tijuana, you don't know fuck all about any Tijuana nightlife outside of hooker bars, and you don't know fuck all about the danger level of Tijuana as a whole. That's OK, it's your choice. You certainly don't have to go anyplace you don't want to. But I take exception to "experts" who blather on about subjects they know nothing about. When you make stupid-ass statements like "suicide mission" you should have some sort of facts to back it up. Seeing as you don't, go back to Adelita and pay inflated prices for pussy and beer. Enjoy yourself, that's what it's there for.

[Member #4450]

Ahh. OK. So you were simply talking out of your ass. I suspected as much.

Look dumbshit, you mentioned all the great taco places in East LA that you were privy to, I didn't. You claim to know all the great places to get bargains, better food, cheaper prices, better value, etc. Etc. You claim to know all the Mexican places where the food's better and cheaper. But you can't back any of your BS up with personal experience. Typical. Now you want to change the subject and tell us what an expert foodie you are because you went to Vegas. BFD.

I have had Cambodian, Chinese, Spanish, Italian, Sri Lankan, Thai, Vietnamese, Burmese, Venezuelan, Honduran, to name but a few, in their respective countries. What's that you say about world class eating? You don't know the meaning of the word. BTW, James Beard, any anybody who knows anything about cuisine (this lets you out) knows there is no such thing as Mandarin cuisine. It's a made-up name for advertising purposes. But we'll leave your ignorance about that for another day. Yes, I, too, have eaten in most of the large Vegas casinos. Some (Comme Ca) are great, others (one of the Emerils places) sucked, and some (Gordon Ramsay Steak) are way overpriced. But that's beside point. Give us some examples, Mr. World Class Gourmand. Your bullshit tires me. Come up with some examples of all this world class dining where somebody in the know (like you) can get equivalent quality, service and value to their counterparts in Tijuana. You started this nonsense, so put up or shut up. I won't hold my breath.

Since you won't leave the Mexican food thing alone, start by naming, oh 5 of your 100 places in Santa Ana. I drive through Santa Ana frequently, I'm sure I can find them. Why don't you include some of your secret places in Beverly Hills or East LA?

OK. Since you've never been to any fine dining establishment in Tijuana, and therefore can't make any comparisons, let's move on.

Admit it. You are too scared to venture out of the Zona Norte. You don't know fuck all about getting around Tijuana, you don't know fuck all about any Tijuana nightlife outside of hooker bars, and you don't know fuck all about the danger level of Tijuana as a whole. That's OK, it's your choice. You certainly don't have to go anyplace you don't want to. But I take exception to "experts" who blather on about subjects they know nothing about. When you make stupid-ass statements like "suicide mission" you should have some sort of facts to back it up. Seeing as you don't, go back to Adelita and pay inflated prices for pussy and beer. Enjoy yourself, that's what it's there for.Ah another online tough asshole! Have you heard about arguing in the internet is like the special Olympics, even if you win you still a retarded.

So before you call me "dumbshit" maybe you should learn when to quit and stop posting stupidity and looking for trouble TROLL.

Yes I agree let's move on you're a waste of broadband.

[Exoticspirit]

Captain's, or Wing's, or whatever handle he's using these days, directions are a bit muddy. The Mercado de Artesanias is technically located on 2nd and Ocampo, although some would say 2nd and Negrete.

Here's a video link. It's in Spanish but they clearly tell you where it's located. The video is about 4 years old now, so who knows how many vendors are left. But it does give you a good idea of the objets the'art available there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkLnvqiMDSY

From the Arch, go 1 block south to 2nd. Go three blocks east to Ocampo. Or, if you're crossing by foot, the first main street you come to, after crossing the bridge west-bound, is Negrete. You can go south on Negrete to 2nd.Thank you. I definitely did not come across this area last time I was in Tijuana. It was just the shops before the pedestrian bridge I saw, not after. I hope to check this one out.

[TomJackin]

Yes I agree let's move on you're a waste of broadband.Completely disagree.

Phordphan has been on this site for years and has shared a wealth of knowledge about Tijuana and other parts of the world.

He tries his best to provide updated and correct information with his numerous trip reports. He travels and explores outside of La Coahuila. He is a respected and valued member on this site.

As far as your posts, they are really no value for people that are seeking accurate and solid information.

Take some trips to Tijuana, and outside La Coahuila, and then report back. Then, and only then, some other members will respect your posts.

I type this as a recommendation, not as an attack or argument.

Just my 2 pesos.

[Gsil247]

I was messing around with my I5. I was watching some porn on it in Tropicals (hey I'm a Horndog) and the reception was not too bad. But it is choppy, and the reception goes on and off at will. Do you like being shot at while your character freezes?Are you kidding me! If I died in a match because of lag, I would end up crying like a teenage girl who lost her Justin Bieber tickets, and I'm 28. That's why I said, fuck there WiFi. I'll use my phone data for a couple of matches. Yes, I'm in Tijuana on a Saturday around 6, playing video games on my phone in the hotel for an hour. Fuck, I'm a nerd!

Oh and, your not the only "horn dog" here. This site exist so all us single (most of us I think are), horny men can get some satisfaction. It's all good man, we all love sex.

[ClamSlammer]

You sound like you have to stick to Tijuana and have no experience in good eating but McDonalds and AM PM. Does all you know to eat is "TACOS"?

Let me show you what's having class means my friend. I had the best Peruvian, Argentinian, Italian, Spain and Chinese Mandarin, Chinese Cambodian, and best BBQ you can only dream about. I've been thru every casino restaurant from Reno, Tahoe down to Las Vegas with real chefs that know what fine eating is all about. Eating tacos and tortillas your whole life is what you call great food, sorry but there's more than that.

I like when people think Mexican food is the best, yes maybe because you live in SoCal but sometimes you need to think outside the tortilla. There's no place o restaurant in Tijuana that can compare to a good Mexican restaurant in SoCal. The food there is cheap starting with the low quality cheap beef. Before you comment about good eating you need to educate yourself about world class eating.

Lastly I can give you 100 places for good food you can start by driving 5 and exit in Santa Ana which is little Mexico look around you and you'll find many great restaurants with handmade tortillas and great tasting food.

Wow you're so brave or too dumb by wondering around Tijuana you should try go to the hills at night and show off you courage. You keep asking me for my personal experience with Tijuana crime but I don't have one because I'm too smart and I don't walk outside the zona maybe zona rio but I don't wonder like a dumb gringo in a drug war zone. You Can find all Tijuana crime info you need under "Policiaca" section in frontera info, El Mexicano newspaper then maybe then you realize that you're not too smart.HT and CS, there's no point in arguing with PP. It's a lose-lose situation. You win the argument but there's no glory because you beat a retard. You lose the argument, and you just lost to a retard. The same retard who thinks Tijuana is safer than San Diego.

[ClamSlammer]

Completely disagree.

Phordphan has been on this site for years and has shared a wealth of knowledge about Tijuana and other parts of the world.

He tries his best to provide updated and correct information with his numerous trip reports. He travels and explores outside of La Coahuila. He is a respected and valued member on this site.

As far as your posts, they are really no value for people that are seeking accurate and solid information.

Take some trips to Tijuana, and outside La Coahuila, and then report back. Then, and only then, some other members will respect your posts.

I type this as a recommendation, not as an attack or argument.

Just my 2 pesos.PP is a joke of a poster who posts nothing but idiotic nonsense. I called him out on it and he had absolutely no good response. Best to just ignore him.

[TomJackin]

PP is a joke of a poster who posts nothing but idiotic nonsense. I called him out on it and he had absolutely no good response. Best to just ignore him.Have you seen any of his trip reports over several years? Or are you basing your opinion based on discussions in 2015?

Are you saying HT has any value to the site?

Come on dude!

[ClamSlammer]

Have you seen any of his trip reports over several years? Or are you basing your opinion based on discussions in 2015?

Are you saying HT has any value to the site?

Come on dude!Have you ever read any of his pure fantasy idiotic comments? Like his claim that HK adjusts their tipo de cambio in real time? When the fact is they've adjusted it once in three years? Like his claim that Tijuana is safer than SD? When the murder ratio is like 1/100? And his claim to never have been ripped off in Tijuana in 30 years? And his claim about a BG's earnings that were only off by $80 k? His reports are worthless, fabricated nonsense. Definitely has a negative value to this board.

[Artisttyp]

I for one am sorry to see this thread go to shit.

It reminds me of the Colombia forum. A few guys on here want to stir up trouble for entertainment value.

Hopefully the admin comes and cleans it up. ISG has always tried to maintain a higher standard of participants.

I agree PP posts interesting information. It might not be everbody's thing but it relates to the topic.

Are things that bad that someone has to create static on an information board to keep occupied?

[Baxter Slade]

TAKE A BREAK. ?? Come on my amigo you can just ignore this crap. But while I'm serving out a ban on traveling to Tijuana, where else am I going to find this somewhat related to Tijuana drama??

Now speaking of the ban. Does anyone know a way you can take your cell phone into Tijuana and guarantee someone won't get that weird tone when they call you. I think that is the only thing that prevents me from sneaking off to enjoy an afternoon in heaven.

[Echo9]

First time poster, long time reader. I have questions about buying generic viagra in Tijuana. Is it possible to buy a generic brand of Viagra at the Costco in Tijuana?

Does anyone have experience using travelers checks in Tijuana? Where would be the best and safest place to cash? I haven't stayed in the Zona yet. I usually stay in San Ysidro or Zona Rio. I would like to get a room close Ave Revo on my next trip.

[Jackie888]

TAKE A BREAK. ?? Come on my amigo you can just ignore this crap. But while I'm serving out a ban on traveling to Tijuana, where else am I going to find this somewhat related to Tijuana drama??

Now speaking of the ban. Does anyone know a way you can take your cell phone into Tijuana and guarantee someone won't get that weird tone when they call you. I think that is the only thing that prevents me from sneaking off to enjoy an afternoon in heaven.LOL. I either turn off the phone, or leave it in the car at the border.

Why are you banned from Tijuana?

[Baxter Slade]

LOL. I either turn off the phone, or leave it in the car at the border.

Why are you banned from Tijuana?The ban is spousal related. And I must always be in phone contact which is business related.

[Jjj101]

TAKE A BREAK. ?? Come on my amigo you can just ignore this crap. But while I'm serving out a ban on traveling to Tijuana, where else am I going to find this somewhat related to Tijuana drama??

Now speaking of the ban. Does anyone know a way you can take your cell phone into Tijuana and guarantee someone won't get that weird tone when they call you. I think that is the only thing that prevents me from sneaking off to enjoy an afternoon in heaven.My AT&T iPhone gets pretty good cell phone / data reception in Tijuana near the boarder "zona" area. I've even used it to communicate with locals via Google translate. However, you must call your phone company to disable international roaming, so your signal will always bounce off an USA Tower near the boarder. You can always ask phone company to turn it back on when you are really going aboard.

[Exoticspirit]

Rizo de Oro is quieter at night, but that is because of how they house their guests.

In the original four story structure, the rooms are all to the east of the oficina. These older rooms are typically rented to the chicas.

They built a separate two-story annex to to the north. To access the north annex you go up a half stairway, take an interior bridge that goes over a back alley, and then walk down half a stairway to the second floor of the annex. Very few, if any, of the rooms in this north annex are rented to the chicas. So when you stay in these rooms you are less likely to be woken in the early morning hours as the chicas talk loudly and clank their zapatos as they return to their rooms after work.

Just around two years ago the Rizo de Oro hotel expanded again when the owner acquired the seven story tower that was built on NE corner of Coahuila and Nino Heroes. The seven story tower has an elevator and its rooms located behind (west of) the oficina and each floor only has six or seven rooms. The tower rooms are probably the quietest late at night and many of the rooms have terrific views.

By comparison, Cascades seems to behave like a three ring circus with much activity and noise in their large hallways during all hours.Sounds like the Rizo is actually a nicer place to sleep over (noise wise). Now it looks like one has to juggle whether it's more important to have a quiet sleep but have to walk across the street at night (which might not be a big deal) or put up with the noise and just go upstairs with the HK and SGs.

[Jackie888]

Sounds like the Rizo is actually a nicer place to sleep over (noise wise). Now it looks like one has to juggle whether it's more important to have a quiet sleep but have to walk across the street at night (which might not be a big deal) or put up with the noise and just go upstairs with the HK and SGs.I have spent a Friday sleeping at the Rizo before, on the 2nd floor towards the back. It's relatively quiet because there is a lot less Ariba going on in general. It only got loud in the early morning when a group of chicas got off their shift, and even then they quiet down after about 10 minutes. In fact, I will intentionally take a HK girl to the Rizo when it's too crowded above HK (difficult to get going when the Bro next door is really loud, because I'm now curious of the girl he's with rather than my own girl).

Don't worry about crossing that section of the street at night. It is safe because there is so much people around. I'd worry more about the taxi drivers running me over than crimes or police shakedowns.

[Phordphan]

I for one am sorry to see this thread go to shit.

It reminds me of the Colombia forum. A few guys on here want to stir up trouble for entertainment value.

Hopefully the admin comes and cleans it up. ISG has always tried to maintain a higher standard of participants.

I agree PP posts interesting information. It might not be everbody's thing but it relates to the topic.

Are things that bad that someone has to create static on an information board to keep occupied?My apologies to the members (and you know who you are) who are worthwhile contributors.

I admit I get a burr under my saddle when a newbie asks legit questions (in this case, if Revu was all tourist trinkets) and some yokel starts posturing about things he knows nothing about. Mexico in general, and Tijuana in particular, have some serious problems; some institutional but others a direct result of the USA's rapacious appetite for drugs. Those Mexicans who depend directly, or indirectly, on tourism dollars, have a hard enough time making a living without people tossing around false prejudices.

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.

[Phordphan]

TAKE A BREAK. ?? Come on my amigo you can just ignore this crap. But while I'm serving out a ban on traveling to Tijuana, where else am I going to find this somewhat related to Tijuana drama??

Now speaking of the ban. Does anyone know a way you can take your cell phone into Tijuana and guarantee someone won't get that weird tone when they call you. I think that is the only thing that prevents me from sneaking off to enjoy an afternoon in heaven.Unfortunately, AFAIK, the answer is No. One of my business partners calls from time to time. He can always tell if I'm in Mexico, due to the odd ring. You could turn off Int'l roaming, but that would defeat the purpose of being available by phone.

[Phordphan]

First time poster, long time reader. I have questions about buying generic viagra in Tijuana. Is it possible to buy a generic brand of Viagra at the Costco in Tijuana?

Does anyone have experience using travelers checks in Tijuana? Where would be the best and safest place to cash? I haven't stayed in the Zona yet. I usually stay in San Ysidro or Zona Rio. I would like to get a room close Ave Revo on my next trip.You can get generic V at any pharmacy up and down Revu and about 1,000 other places in downtown. AFAIK, Costco will require a prescription. A USA one is OK.

Travelers checks? Seriously? Don't bother. I don't think many business will take them. Nicer hotels will probably cash them. Banks will, during banking hours. TCs have become far too big a PITA when traveling abroad. Just use the ATM. They're all over the place. Bank lobbies, Las Pulgas, some of the Zona bars.

You want to stay on Revu? The nicest place is Ticuan but that may still be closed, depending on when you visit. There are two "decent" hotels directly on Revu. Espana and Caesar's. They are rather like a Motel 6. Clean and basic. Hotel Nelson very close to the Zona, but is very, very old. There are several shitbag hotels on Revu, too, but I won't mention them. Villa de Zaragoza is one block east of Revu, between 7th and 8th. It's reasonably priced, clean and quiet.

[Echo9]

Thanks for the Intel, sir.

I will try to contribute Intel to this forum. I'm not good with names. I remember the good, but forget the bad ones. Kenya in the alley. Anita (long black hair and braces) at AB are among the good I can recommend. Maybe on my next trip I will keep notes. How do you guys manage to remember names of chicas, location of hotels, name of restaurants?

[ScatManDoo]

TAKE A BREAK. ?? Come on my amigo you can just ignore this crap. But while I'm serving out a ban on traveling to Tijuana, where else am I going to find this somewhat related to Tijuana drama??

Now speaking of the ban. Does anyone know a way you can take your cell phone into Tijuana and guarantee someone won't get that weird tone when they call you. I think that is the only thing that prevents me from sneaking off to enjoy an afternoon in heaven.If you take your cellphone off of roaming, you can prevent the weird tones that are transmitted when your cell links up with the Mexican towers.

You will only get spotty reception in LZ from the San Ysidro towers while in LZ, and practically no reception south of 2nd street, but aren't there laces in the US well cell reception also is poor?

I use Metro PCS and get pretty good reception in most rooms at the Leyva and HDS.

I didn't get good reception in the Master Suite #59 at Rizo de Oro, but that room is on the ground floor and the south end of the north annex, so the signal would have needed to travel through about 10 rooms to get through to mine. I think rooms on the highest floors of Cascades, near the north end of building get decent cell signals.

Of course it matters a great deal which cell provider you use. For example, I use to have Verizon. I kept my phone permanently off of roaming. And for many years my Verizon phone could get good signal from the San Ysidro cell towers when I was on the streets of LZ or in the Hotel Leyva. Then about three years ago a Mexican cellphone company put up one or more broadcast towers close to Hotel Leyva and my Verizon signal strength instantly went to shit. The might have been using the same, or very similar broadcast frequencies. Because of this I switched from Verizon to MetroPCS because my buddies MetroPCS's signal was still strong in LZ.

[ScatManDoo]

First time poster, long time reader. I have questions about buying generic viagra in Tijuana. Is it possible to buy a generic brand of Viagra at the Costco in Tijuana?For many years I have bought genuine Viagra (in Pfizer packaging) from the pharmacy located within Tijuana's Costco. No prescription was necessary, but you did need a Costco membership (both USA And Mexico Costco Membership cards are valid at the Costco in Tijuana). I never tried to get generic Viagra at Costco, so I don't know if they carry generic Viagra at Costco in Tijuana.

Nowadays I buy generic Viagra from Piri Pharmacy / Piri Mercado. Piri is located one short block east of the Arch on the pedestrian path.

Generic Viagra is widely available all over Tijuana, as PfordPfan previously reported.

[Jackie888]

Thanks for the Intel, sir.

I will try to contribute Intel to this forum. I'm not good with names. I remember the good, but forget the bad ones. Kenya in the alley. Anita (long black hair and braces) at AB are among the good I can recommend. Maybe on my next trip I will keep notes. How do you guys manage to remember names of chicas, location of hotels, name of restaurants?I've a photographic memory.

[Phordphan]

For many years I have bought genuine Viagra (in Pfizer packaging) from the pharmacy located within Tijuana's Costco. No prescription was necessary, but you did need a Costco membership (both USA And Mexico Costco Membership cards are valid at the Costco in Tijuana). I never tried to get generic Viagra at Costco, so I don't know if they carry generic Viagra at Costco in Tijuana.
Very interesting and a great tip on the prescription thing.

As there is no "official" generic V, I figure Costco won't sell the Indian knockoffs.

[Reinaldo]

Tijuana Costco does sell generic Viagra however I don't think the price is any better than at Mercado Piri.


I never tried to get generic Viagra at Costco, so I don't know if they carry generic Viagra at Costco in Tijuana.

[Reinaldo]

A number of Mexican companies have been producing and marketing generic Viagra for years now. The first brand to appear was MaxiFort.



As there is no "official" generic V, I figure Costco won't sell the Indian knockoffs.

[Jackie888]

A number of Mexican companies have been producing and marketing generic Viagra for years now. The first brand to appear was MaxiFort.Nothing against Mexican products, but I prefer the Indian brands bcause their pharmaceutical industry is very well developed.

[ScatManDoo]

Nothing against Mexican products, but I prefer the Indian brands bcause their pharmaceutical industry is very well developed.The box of 4 Figral (100 MG Sildenafil) pills I bought at Piri says "Hecho en Mexico".

The box a single 100 MG Viagra (Sildenafil) pill I bought at Costco in Tijuana also says "Hecho en Mexico".

Both have always worked great for me. I biteoff about 1/3 of a 100 MG pill at a time.

The 100 MG Viagra costs around $9. 50 (US dollars) per pill.

The 100 MG Figral costs around one dollar per pill.

[Phordphan]

A number of Mexican companies have been producing and marketing generic Viagra for years now. The first brand to appear was MaxiFort.Let me clarify. There is no legal US "generic" Viagra, as Pfizer's patent hasn't expired. Unless MaxiFort is manufactured under license (I have no idea if it is, or isn't) then it's a knockoff.

[Hargow20]

I am looking for a cheap cell phone that I give to a SW in Tijuana. ? Where is the cheapest phone and plan and where is the best place to buy one. ?

[TomJackin]

I am looking for a cheap cell phone that I give to a SW in Tijuana. ? Where is the cheapest phone and plan and where is the best place to buy one. ?Buy a cheap / used unlocked cell phone on Ebay, then get a Telcel sim card in Tijuana and you pay by the minutes and there is no plan.

[ScatManDoo]

Let me clarify. There is no legal US "generic" Viagra, as Pfizer's patent hasn't expired. Unless MaxiFort is manufactured under license (I have no idea if it is, or isn't) then it's a knockoff.The active ingredient in Pfizer's Viagra is called Sildenafil.

In Tijuana we can buy pills containing 50 MG and 100 MG of Sildenafil.

It think on a board like this it might not matter whether these pills should be called generic or knockoffs.

I'd prefer to use the term generic, even if technically incorrect, just because that term is better understood (and hopefully not misleading).

I go to Piri because they seem to have the cheapest prices on these "generic" vitamin V's and a lot of different brands.

Additionally it is convenient for when I stay at HDS, since I'm often on Revo and Piri & the Tijuana Wax Museum is just a very short block on the pedestrian path from the Arch on Revo.

The first brand they were selling at Piri was the Maxifort.

But now they also carry other brands of Sildenafil called Figral and Mazzogram and a newer brand, who's name I think begins with an "E".

If buy a single pill of these generics at Piri, you'll pay around $2 or less.

If you buy 10 pills at once, the price gets down to only 80 to 90 cents per pill for some of the generic brands.

[GroovieFan]

Let me clarify. There is no legal US "generic" Viagra, as Pfizer's patent hasn't expired. Unless MaxiFort is manufactured under license (I have no idea if it is, or isn't) then it's a knockoff.I am getting a generic from kaiser. Comes in 20 MG tablets.

[GolfSexRroll]

I am getting a generic from kaiser. Comes in 20 MG tablets.From what I know there is no "generic" Viagra sold in the USA made by Pfizer. (or any other company) Pfizer has patent rights to It's "Viagra" name. I also do not believe that it is dispensed in 20 MG tabs, also. So it must be another ED med.

[ScatManDoo]

The three big ED drugs in the United States are Viagra, Cialis & Levitra.

Sildenafil is the active ingredient in Viagra and the largest dose pills I see sold are 100 MG.

Tadalafil is the active ingredient in Cialis and the largest dose pills I see sold are 20 MG.

Vardenafil is the active ingredient in Levitra and the largest dose pills I see sold are also 20 MG.

[Reinaldo]

Sildenafil is the active ingredient in Viagra and is available from Kaiser. It's prescribed in 20 MG tablets because it has another use which is for pulmonary artery hypertension.


From what I know there is no "generic" Viagra sold in the USA made by Pfizer. (or any other company) Pfizer has patent rights to It's "Viagra" name. I also do not believe that it is dispensed in 20 MG tabs, also. So it must be another ED med.

[Phordphan]

Sildenafil is the active ingredient in Viagra and is available from Kaiser. It's prescribed in 20 MG tablets because it has another use which is for pulmonary artery hypertension.Here's an interesting report. A bit eye-glazing, but interesting.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1994020/

Apparently they were testing it for use with angina patients. It didn't work too well for that, but everybody starting sporting wood, so the inventors shouted "Eureka!" and made a beeline for the bank. :D

It does appear to be a very effective vasodilator. At the time this was written, the jury was still out on its overall efficacy in treating pulmonary hypertension. My guess is that it's been proven successful in the 7 or 8 years since this was published.

[The Tall Man]

I am looking for a cheap cell phone that I give to a SW in Tijuana. ? Where is the cheapest phone and plan and where is the best place to buy one. ?A few weeks back I brought my TRAC Phone down to Tijuana and tested it. Standing on the 3rd floor in open to sky area I got a good US signal and it worked liked it should.

The phone can be bought for like $25. And you buy 90 days and about 120 minutes for like $20. Good deal.

The Tall Man.

[Phordphan]

A few weeks back I brought my TRAC Phone down to Tijuana and tested it. Standing on the 3rd floor in open to sky area I got a good US signal and it worked liked it should.

The phone can be bought for like $25. And you buy 90 days and about 120 minutes for like $20. Good deal.

The Tall Man.Actually, I think OP plans to give the phone to one of the heroin-addicted gringa streetwalkers. So, it would have to be some cheap-o Mexican phone.

[LeSinge]

When I go to a thread like this one its just a list newest to oldest of millions of post. How do I get them in the format of conversations like a threaded view. I read in the help you can click on the "display options" supposedly in the top right part of the screen but I do not see this at all and trying to parse through all this to get reasonable information is making smoke come out of my ears.

TIA

[GroovieFan]

From what I know there is no "generic" Viagra sold in the USA made by Pfizer. (or any other company) Pfizer has patent rights to It's "Viagra" name. I also do not believe that it is dispensed in 20 MG tabs, also. So it must be another ED med.I have been getting this prescription for over a year. Never said it was labeled Viagra. It is right in my hand. Really don't care if you don't believe me.

[GolfSexRroll]

I have been getting this prescription for over a year. Never said it was labeled Viagra. It is right in my hand. Really don't care if you don't believe me.NO need to get all defensive! I was just saying that it was NOT a Viagra "generic"!

[KC Questor]

When I go to a thread like this one its just a list newest to oldest of millions of post. How do I get them in the format of conversations like a threaded view. I read in the help you can click on the "display options" supposedly in the top right part of the screen but I do not see this at all and trying to parse through all this to get reasonable information is making smoke come out of my ears.As far as I know there is no threaded view. The reports are just a single long list in reverse chronological order. It is a pain, especially because you can't even see new posts marked as "New" if they go past the first page.

You get used to it.

[HorseTrader]

When I go to a thread like this one its just a list newest to oldest of millions of post. How do I get them in the format of conversations like a threaded view. I read in the help you can click on the "display options" supposedly in the top right part of the screen but I do not see this at all and trying to parse through all this to get reasonable information is making smoke come out of my ears.

TIAWelcome to the forum.

I felt the same when I first started reading this forum. But that was before my first visit to Zona Norte. Now, the format makes good sense. We tend to ramble from topic to topic in the same post, so this format works for us.

I spend about 10 minutes each day reading the latest posts. If you do the same, you will feel more comfortable in about a week.

[Goodtime Man]

Every time I walk past the 1500 foot line of humanity to get to the border crossing, saving hours in line, I never ceased to be amazed at the value of those little plastic cards. I never turn around to see what must be hundreds of glaring eyes.

[Party God]

Hi guys. I need some advice. I'm planning on going to zona norte this weekend and taking a buddy for his last hurrah before he ties the knot. We've gone there quite a bit, but for his last hurrah he is requesting that we stay at one of the hotels either the one above HK or the for above AB. One is called Cascadas. Can't remember which, and don't remember what the other is called.

Here are my questions:

Which of the two should we stay at? We will probably be bouncing around between both places. I like HK during the day but prefer AB during the night.

What does it cost? How do I go about making a reservation?

Do they have rooms with 2 beds? Not planning on toda la noche session. Just want to watch out for each other's safety.

Any advice / insight would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

[ScatManDoo]

Hi guys. I need some advice. I'm planning on going to zona norte this weekend and taking a buddy for his last hurrah before he ties the knot. We've gone there quite a bit, but for his last hurrah he is requesting that we stay at one of the hotels either the one above HK or the for above AB. One is called Cascadas. Can't remember which, and don't remember what the other is called.

Here are my questions:

Which of the two should we stay at? We will probably be bouncing around between both places. I like HK during the day but prefer AB during the night.

What does it cost? How do I go about making a reservation?

Do they have rooms with 2 beds? Not planning on toda la noche session. Just want to watch out for each other's safety.

Any advice / insight would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.Cascades is located above Hong Kong Bar and Las Chevelas.

Here is Cascades' website:

http://hotelcascadas.com/

Per the website, the cost for single rooms is $70 and the double rooms (with 2 beds) go for $90 a night on Friday & Saturday nights.

These website prices are if you make a reservation online at their site, you keep the confirmation number, and you cross your fingers they kept your reservation.

Showing up without a reservation might cost you $5 to $10 more per room per night this weekend as the regular rack rate.

If you buy a HK VIP card before paying for the room, the card's 20% discount will be a better deal. The VIP card discount and the reservation discounts do not stack.

Hotel Coahuila is above Adelitas Bar. Their rooms go for $45 a night and they have no double rooms that I am aware of.

They have no website and they don't take reservations and they often sell out (sometimes early) on weekends.

So if you want to insure that you and your buddy can get a full view of each other doing' the nasty, make a reservation online at Cascades.

[TomJackin]

Hi guys. I need some advice. I'm planning on going to zona norte this weekend and taking a buddy for his last hurrah before he ties the knot. We've gone there quite a bit, but for his last hurrah he is requesting that we stay at one of the hotels either the one above HK or the for above AB. One is called Cascadas. Can't remember which, and don't remember what the other is called.

Here are my questions:

Which of the two should we stay at? We will probably be bouncing around between both places. I like HK during the day but prefer AB during the night.

What does it cost? How do I go about making a reservation?

Do they have rooms with 2 beds? Not planning on toda la noche session. Just want to watch out for each other's safety.

Any advice / insight would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.At Cascadas, you can bring girls from HK, LC, and BT. Also many SGs will go there as well, so it is a better option.

Here is the link for the hotel:

http://hotelcascadas.com/hotel-rooms.php

You can make reservations online.

[Exoticspirit]

At Cascadas, you can bring girls from HK, LC, and BT. Also many SGs will go there as well, so it is a better option.Wouldn't many SGs also be willing to go across the street to the Rizo de Oro?

[Caprese7]

Thanks for the Intel, sir.

I will try to contribute Intel to this forum. I'm not good with names. I remember the good, but forget the bad ones. Kenya in the alley. Anita (long black hair and braces) at AB are among the good I can recommend. Maybe on my next trip I will keep notes. How do you guys manage to remember names of chicas, location of hotels, name of restaurants?I am wondering the same thing. Totally cannot keep track of all these hotel / chica / restaurant names.

Been once before, second trip this week on Wednesday. Maybe I will improve my knowledge.

[Party God]

At Cascadas, you can bring girls from HK, LC, and BT. Also many SGs will go there as well, so it is a better option.

Here is the link for the hotel:

http://hotelcascadas.com/hotel-rooms.php

You can make reservations online.Sweet! Thanks Tom.

[GolfSexRroll]

Wouldn't many SGs also be willing to go across the street to the Rizo de Oro?Unless you have a rapport & repeats with SGs they usually will not travel from their hotel. The Rizo de Oro is a stretch from the alley and "time is money" for the paraditas!

[HorseTrader]

Totally cannot keep track of all these hotel / chica / restaurant names.Thanks for admitting that, I can't keep them straight either. I had probably been inside Hotel Mini 5 times before I knew it's name. Some of the girls have unfamiliar Mexican that are easy to forget even if I had a great time with them.

Finding these tiny restaurants can even be difficult. A couple years ago Keg recommended Vieja Lobo to me. Told me it was directly across the street from LC and it was nothing but a hole in the wall with about 3 stools and 2 guys cooking. I looked across from LC on the north, didn't see it. Then I looked across from LC on the south, didn't see it. Then I looked up and down both streets for a good distance, didn't see it. Got another text from Keg that said it was across from LC on the north, I still didn't see it. Walked a couple blocks in both directions, didn't see it. Next text from Keg said it was between the two entrances of Mermaids. Bingo! Finally found it. It was exactly has he described, but it is so subtle that it almost becomes invisible. No exterior signage, at least at that time. Customer accessable area is about 25 square feet. Even when inside, there was only one very small sign that shows the name of the place.

Vieja Lobo has become my favorite food place in Zona Norte.

[Jackie888]

Unless you have a rapport & repeats with SGs they usually will not travel from their hotel. The Rizo de Oro is a stretch from the alley and "time is money" for the paraditas!I think there is also an issue with safety. Some of mongers I've ran into aren't the most upstanding model citizens in their communities. So some of the girls who agreed to go to cascadas for the first time with me, first went up to their hotel and reported that they were leaving with me. I suspect that if I did something funny, there'd be a knock on my door with the butt lof a shotgun.

[TomJackin]

Vieja Lobo has become my favorite food place in Zona Norte.The place has been closed for over a month. The chef took over Praga Restaurant in the alley and the new place is called Restaurante Azul.

[Caprese7]

Heading down to Tijuana today. Looking forward to it, but totally disorganized with where to stay. Liked Ticuan last visit 6 months ago, but heard that the place fell apart. Posts here talk about Cascadas. Might do that. Any other suggestions out there? ETA - 1:00 pm.

[ScatManDoo]

Heading down to Tijuana today. Looking forward to it, but totally disorganized with where to stay. Liked Ticuan last visit 6 months ago, but heard that the place fell apart. Posts here talk about Cascadas. Might do that. Any other suggestions out there? ETA - 1:00 pm.Staying at Cascades is probably your best choice.

If you don't have a HK VIP card, it might be best to make an online reservation because you will get a modest discount on the room cost.

Be aware that many Cascades rooms are equipped with room safes, not just the Master Suites.

Once you are in your room, check out the dark wooden front panels on the nightstands.

Some of those panels swing out, revealing a hidden room safe.

With a $10 (or 100 p) refundable deposit, the front desk will issue you a safe key if your room is equipped with a safe.

Tomjackin best expressed why Cascades is a good choice:


At Cascadas, you can bring girls from HK, LC, and BT. Also many SGs will go there as well, so it is a better option.

Here is the link for the hotel:

http://hotelcascadas.com/hotel-rooms.php

You can make reservations online.

[Exoticspirit]

Unless you have a rapport & repeats with SGs they usually will not travel from their hotel. The Rizo de Oro is a stretch from the alley and "time is money" for the paraditas!This is a good point. I am planning to visit on a Wednesday so perhaps business might be slow for the SGs especially during the daytime. I wonder if they would be more willing to go over to the Rizo in this case. If not, I would be better off staying at the Cascadas if chances of getting them over to the Rizo is too much of an effort.

[GolfSexRroll]

Heading down to Tijuana today. Looking forward to it, but totally disorganized with where to stay. Liked Ticuan last visit 6 months ago, but heard that the place fell apart. Posts here talk about Cascadas. Might do that. Any other suggestions out there? ETA - 1:00 pm.Just go to Cascadas. It is in the center of everything. It will give you the best chance of getting an alley chica to travel to your room. Also HK girls. It is comfortable and safe. Get an upper floor.

[Caprese7]

Real helpful info Satan. Appreciate it. Will definitely consider this place, and probably book online.


Staying at Cascades is probably your best choice.

If you don't have a HK VIP card, it might be best to make an online reservation because you will get a modest discount on the room cost.

Be aware that many Cascades rooms are equipped with room safes, not just the Master Suites.

Once you are in your room, check out the dark wooden front panels on the nightstands.

Some of those panels swing out, revealing a hidden room safe.

With a $10 (or 100 p) refundable deposit, the front desk will issue you a safe key if your room is equipped with a safe.

Tomjackin best expressed why Cascades is a good choice:

[TomJackin]

Liked Ticuan last visit 6 months ago, but heard that the place fell apart. The hotel did not fall apart. There was a fire in one of the rooms on the 5th floor, started by a couple of romantic mood candles. Water damage took care of the rest of the floor. I should be opened by July / August.

[HorseTrader]

The place has been closed for over a month. The chef took over Praga Restaurant in the alley and the new place is called Restaurante Azul.Thanks, that ruined my day. I'll miss Vieja Lobo but will follow the chef. I make it to San Diego and Tijuana only about 5 or 6 times per year, typically staying 2 to 10 days. Often a bit behind the times on some issues.

[TomJackin]

Actually, I think OP plans to give the phone to one of the heroin-addicted gringa streetwalkers. So, it would have to be some cheap-o Mexican phone.Trying to send you a PM!

[Phordphan]

Trying to send you a PM!OK. I flushed out some deadwood.

[Baxter Slade]

So yesterday I decided to test the spousal ban on travel to Tijuana. On Wednesday I contacted my cell provider and explained I was leaving the country on a top secret mission (jajaja) and it was extremely important that if I receive a call I need a way to avoid getting the International dial tone. They advised me to change my roaming settings to stop any roaming and also put the phone in airplane mode. They said I could occasionally go off airplane mode to check for messages and as long as I'm in airplane mode there is no way that international ringtone will show up.

Also here is an interesting tidbit about how this travel ban occurred in the first place. I have found the Whats up app a great way to message and phone a chica in Mexico. I would always delete all conversations and pictures that were sent. However after it was to late I discovered that any picture you receive on this app are automatically sent to the gallery photo section of your phone as a download. I hope this info will help someone in the future.

Ok for the trip report I arrived at noon and had arranged for the MBGF to pick me up in Zona Rio. As soon as I got in the car she seemed a bit distraught. And asked if I could help her with $100. She had just found out the abuela of the ninos had to have an emergency operation and she needed to send money back to the homeland. This was extremely out of character for her. But I did tell her I could give her $80 to help but that would mean no lunch and no hotel or we could just proceed with the plan and she could have whatever is left. As we are deciding where to eat she gets a call from some guy named Mea more, who tells her he will be sending $400 to help with her situation. Well he sure made me feel like a cheap fuck, but it did seem to relax her.

So since we had both been craving that pescado that melts in your mouth over at Chewin's we headed over there. We had a nice lunch with a shrimp cocktail and the filet Sarendeando and a couple lemonades the total came to around $30 including tip. After that it was off to Hotel Tijuana. Its one of the many love motels you will find in Tijuana the cost was $17 for 4 hours. Not as nice as La Mansion but it worked fine. Usually we would stay for the total 4 hours but I was nervous about getting back home at a reasonable time. So all in all it turned out to be a great afternoon. Got to the border at 3:45 luckily the line was only a 10 minute wait and I was in my car at 4 and home by 6. There was a slight scare when I found a voice message from wifey saying she was extremely suspicious when she tried to call me and the call went right to voice mail and she noticed my Mexican pants were not in the closet. (Mexican pants = jeans with the hidden pocket) . But since I got back to her 15 minutes after she left the message all was good.

On a side note I did ask the MBGF if she was going to be sending that $400 she was going to be getting back to the grandma and she admitted she would be keeping about half.

[Jackie888]

Hugo, that's a great report particularly the claok and dagger stuff. Not with the phone company but with the wife. Oh man, you need to get some extra Mexican pants to use as intentional disinformation.

[ScatManDoo]

Hugo, that's a great report particularly the claok and dagger stuff. Not with the phone company but with the wife. Oh man, you need to get some extra Mexican pants to use as intentional disinformation.Or get hidden pockets sewn into more of his existing wardrobe items.

[BigTwins]

Hi all,

I am planning a trip in July, not my first, to Tijuana. I have a reservation at Ticuan thru Expedia but I know they might not be open. I'm wondering what the other chica friendly hotels are down there around the same price / quality. Aqua Rio looks great but alas, no AC and it can get pretty swampy down there in the summer time. Please help. Thanks all.

BT

[Artisttyp]

Oh man, you need to get some extra Mexican pants to use as intentional disinformation.www.texasjeans.com

$23 with a hidden concealment pocket. Can't be beat.

[Jackie888]

Or get hidden pockets sewn into more of his existing wardrobe items.And when his wife does his laundry and finds out that 100% of his pants have been turned into Mexican pants, she's going to have questions. LOL.

[Phordphan]

Hi all,

I am planning a trip in July, not my first, to Tijuana. I have a reservation at Ticuan thru Expedia but I know they might not be open. I'm wondering what the other chica friendly hotels are down there around the same price / quality. Aqua Rio looks great but alas, no AC and it can get pretty swampy down there in the summer time. Please help. Thanks all.

BTCan you define "chica friendly?" What did you intend to do? The reason I'm asking is that as Ticuan is nowhere near the Zona you won't be bringing girls back to your room all night.

Sadly, there is no other place near the Zona like the Ticuan. There are alternatives, but none as nice. Your other alternatives in the area are closer to a Motel 6 kind of place. I'm not knocking them. I've stayed at all of them at one time or another. But if you're looking for king beds, on-site bar and restaurant, etc. , there are none, with the exception of Villa de Zaragoza. The rooms are nowhere near as nice as the Ticuan, but they have on-site bar and restaurant, room access is much more private (no lobby to walk through) and I've gotten up to quite a bit of mischief there.

Other alternatives are Espana, Caesar's and Nelson. Again, nothing like Ticuan but they are serviceable.

[HorseTrader]

Other alternatives are Espana, Caesar's and Nelson. Again, nothing like Ticuan but they are serviceable.I'm also looking for a Ticuan alternative for mid-June. I want a clean room, comfortable bed, decent A/C, and safety within a 15 minute safe walk to Zona Norte. Don't care about a bar, food service, valet, or any other luxuries. Motel 6 is fine when I'm paying out of my own pocket. Sounds like Caesar's and Nelson both fit that description.

[TomJackin]

I'm also looking for a Ticuan alternative for mid-June. I want a clean room, comfortable bed, decent A/C, and safety within a 15 minute safe walk to Zona Norte. Don't care about a bar, food service, valet, or any other luxuries. Motel 6 is fine when I'm paying out of my own pocket. Sounds like Caesar's and Nelson both fit that description.If you like to sleep, Nelson is not a good option.

Go with Caesar's.