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LifeIsABeach
08-27-15, 03:52
I personally tried to get the residency visa but failed in doing so. They ask you a lot of personal questions having to do with finance. I had sufficient funds many X's over but they still wouldn't give it to me with a personal letter from my accountant stating my net worth and other highly confidential financial information. It is not reasonable to think that the majority of people crossing will be able to comply.Just about every country asks for some financial information of a foreigner if he wants to stay in their country. Many countries, including USA where you will get Residency permit if you 'invest' a certain amount in the country. That amount varies from country to country. It could even be just buying a house for that amount. Australia has some regulations now where foreigners buy these properties but not really invest in the country. Canada is also looking at that program. People are also complaining in Portugal too but real estate brought in Euro 50 billion into the country last year from foreigners who got a free permit to move between some EU countries. Many ways to work the books. I would have to look too next year when I decide where to retire. I am also a EU citizen and southern Spain is indeed a option and I don't have to prove anything. Any other country outside of USA and EU, I have to. No problem. My bank statements would suffice. I can also get a letter from my Accountant if necessary.
If you really want to EU now, get on one of those boats and land in Greece and you'll get refuge status, money, housing and no other botheration!
Have gone thru the new screening process and am going to learn to live with it. For those who think it is going to go away I would forget about that idea. They invested way to much on the facility the new walkway etc to have this be some temporary thing. To be honest I have no problem with them screening people entering the country. I visit for three or four days at a time get the seven day visa and just re-use it when I cross over daily for work. The person in the front of the line asks to see your visa you provide it they tell you to walk thru no big deal small price to pay for enjoying the fine company in the zona.
GolfSexRroll
08-27-15, 15:49
Have gone thru the new screening process and am going to learn to live with it. For those who think it is going to go away I would forget about that idea. They invested way to much on the facility the new walkway etc to have this be some temporary thing. To be honest I have no problem with them screening people entering the country. I visit for three or four days at a time get the seven day visa and just re-use it when I cross over daily for work. The person in the front of the line asks to see your visa you provide it they tell you to walk thru no big deal small price to pay for enjoying the fine company in the zona.Exactly. It is a painless experience compared to the BULLSHIT we go through to get BACK to our country!
Explorer8939
08-27-15, 17:40
Have gone thru the new screening process and am going to learn to live with it. For those who think it is going to go away I would forget about that idea. They invested way to much on the facility the new walkway etc to have this be some temporary thing. To be honest I have no problem with them screening people entering the country. I visit for three or four days at a time get the seven day visa and just re-use it when I cross over daily for work. The person in the front of the line asks to see your visa you provide it they tell you to walk thru no big deal small price to pay for enjoying the fine company in the zona.They have a "greeter" at the entrance, if you speak English to the greeter, they will generally send you to the line for Mexicans, but if you speak Spanish, they will send to you get a visa, even if you are just heading to Tijuana for the day.
Captain Solo
08-27-15, 18:50
I hope they catch the mules who carry drug cash back to mexico for the cartels, also the criminals who cross the border into hiding.
Exoticspirit
08-28-15, 00:19
Hi Everybody,
I will be getting into San Diego on Wed Sept 9 in the morning and heading down to Tijuana to stay one night at the Cascadas. Will stay in Tijuana until about mid afternoon on the Thur Sept 10 to head back to San Diego and catch my next evening flight.
Wondering if any of you gents will be in Tijuana around that time to take in the 'sights'.
On Monday when I stepped into the new building, I was greeted at the entry by one of the pretty agents. I showed her my passport card and she asked how long was I staying, and I told her just one night. She directed me to the free 7 day visa line. I presented my passport card to one of the agents. He asked me what will I be doing in Mexico. I had to hold back on that question. I wanted to say, "Hopefully I can fuck your daughter. " Instead I told him that I wanted to check out Caesar's restaurant because I heard the salad was outstanding. He filled out the visa and marked it for 7 dias, then stamped the date on the visa. The whole process took around 4 to 5 minutes.
On Wednesday when I stepped into the new building, I was greeted at the entry by another pretty agent. I presented my passport card and my 7 day visa. She looked at both and then directed me to the local line.
Outside the building, the walkway will take you to the hectic taxi stands. The yellow cabs are the ones you will see first. They come off a small hill where they line up. There are yellow taxi drivers all over the sidewalk. And they all want your business!
On the other side of the street there are the Libre taxis pointed the opposite direction. The Libre taxi drivers are not allowed to cross the road and mix with the yellow drivers. They stand on the curb and are shouting for your business as well. The Libre taxis have to make a you-turn for the route to HK. Keep in mind, that the yellow cannot stop in front of HK, there drop-off point is in front of Adelita. But the Libre cabs, HK is the drop-off point. I took a yellow cab on Monday and a Libre on Wednesday; both were OK with 50 pesos.
I used to take the HK shuttle van when I returned to the border, but I stopped because I didn't like waiting. It was early and as I was leaving Tropical, I saw the HK limo. The driver was available, so I took the sweet limo back to the border.
Exoticspirit
08-28-15, 03:53
Outside the building, the walkway will take you to the hectic taxi stands. The yellow cabs are the ones you will see first. They come off a small hill where they line up. There are yellow taxi drivers all over the sidewalk. And they all want your business!If I may ask, is this far from the pedestrian bridge (over the waterway or oversized gutter) to Primera where the new walkway is?
If I may ask, is this far from the pedestrian bridge (over the waterway or oversized gutter) to Primera where the new walkway is?Do you plan on parking in the Duty Free lot, if so you will use pedestrian bridge. The new ped crossing is on the trolley / McDonald's side. The same side where you will exit the US customs / immigration. Just follow the crowd from McDonald's. Make sure you either have a valid passport or valid passport card.
Ninguno Especial
08-28-15, 04:47
as I was leaving Tropical, I saw the HK limo. The driver was available, so I took the sweet limo back to the border.Thanks for the report and pictorial. I've not set foot in the HK limo but nice to see the interior. So you can just hop in if it is parked in front of HK waiting? With or without a VIP card?
Thanks for the report and pictorial. I've not set foot in the HK limo but nice to see the interior. So you can just hop in if it is parked in front of HK waiting? With or without a VIP card?The limo has bottles of water and some package snacks.
The driver takes your VIP card and verifies the card with the service desk; then off you go.
So yes, you need the card.
Yes indeed- 33 hours and we certainly made the most of it.
A five (5) hour drive, and Hugo the Man was there and ready for our 6 pm arrival in San Ysidro.
Where to park? Issue handled. And a new spot for me in the future. Great call Hugo. Traffic on the way down? Minimal. A smooth ride at 80 mph. As the thermometer hit 82 degrees, we encountered the new border entrance and process. Simple really. And the place has sort of an "airport" feel to it. Hugo agreed. Good people checking us through with a passport glance and our signature on the 7-day auto-Visa thingy, piece of paper thing that we kept with us (would need it on the return. Or did we? Trying to recall). Cab? Yes. Hugo said $3. Why no mas. The driver said "Si" - simple really, and we were off. As we coasted up the freeway (one that Hugo knows I am quite familiar with. Ahem*) a few right turns and left turns and we found ourselves in the Zona. Yes. Reservations at Casadas. Yet, our 1/2 the room required a 20-beer purchase at. Where was it? Las Chavellas? I believe so. 6:30 pm now and there was a decent buzz on the streets and in the air. Would I have that similar "buzz" after my first 5 beers? Not exactly. As Hugo shared 10 of his XX's with me, I proceeded to drink the other 20 in a fair and reasonable time of 3 to 4 hours. Did we check in? Yes, but not really sure when. Then, like a "flash", the running midget was spotted. He escaped the policia, but was he truly a wanted man? The running midget would return at a later time and another locale. It's a mad, mad world. Hugo needed the Cubs, but the Giants at Caliente sports book looked enticing to me at +120. Hugo got his Cardinals, but S. F. Won 4-2. A cashier for me and a minor set back for Hugo. Would Hugo care? Not exactly as he was surrounded by such lovely company as Lydia and Hermonia and someone else whose name escapes me. We even noticed during the 40-beer throw back that the Tijuana soccer club was down 3-1 in the 60th minute only to come back and win 4-3. The running midget might have appeared again. But it seemed dark and shadowy. In the distance really. "Bleep". Cabs making those sounds. Over and over again. The, La Gloria bar. Hugo refers to my performance in said bar as. MJ-ish. A true compliment to my footwork and truly amazing dance skills to such merengues and salsa tunes as the clock struck 11 pm. Hugo wore blue jeans and a blue collared shirt. Same here, but a black T-shirt instead. We were hip and doing Tijuana the right way. Our way really. Hugo was given a kiss by a stunning brunette. At least the upper 50%. The two of them also had their fair share of quality time to LOS canciones "slow" as they mirrored other romantic couples on the dance floor. I remained with another mujer who shared 5,200 photos on her phone with me. 99% of which involved family members and other memories of a time gone by. Her neck smelled of pink roses. With a taste of honey. Hugo and I were sporting the stunning aroma of Nautica. A blend which certainly drew the female persuasion closer by the minute. We were simply unstoppable. Then, the running little guy would run, run, run around the dance floor and out of the club, only to resurface hours later at the break of day. Who was that girl from the Jersey shore? When did she come into play? Did we have a moment together? And Hugo? Still dancing the slow dance of love at La Gloria bar. 6th floor. And a balcony with a view. Cascadas was ok enough. A / see in my room? 84 c upon check-in and 83 c as my head hit the rock-hard pillow. $27 for this cuarto with a live feed to the Tropical bar on the tube? Value is a perception. Liked the idea of it. Through and through. Hugo and I saw the break of dawn. You know, that golden time of day. The streets were thin. A rare breed double her price and upon hearing $40, Hugo ran faster than the little guy. After "Chi-town" met us on the back side of the block, we immediate went from a safe situation to pure danger. But we stepped it up and rolled like loaded dice. Did we ever. And everyone became friends within minutes after lending an ear to the situation at hand. Remember "Chi-Town" Hugo? I then recalled that I had not helped myself to a bite of food in nearly 12 hours. So, a small plate of rice and a tortilla which was the size of a half-dollar was handed my direction. And all for $5. I added $3 worth of salsa to justify the rip-off. Tasty. And necessary after such ingestion of muchas XX's. As the night comes to a close and morning breaks, Hugo finds his aim. But as for me? Alone again. A guy calls a girl and a girl comes to meet a guy. Girl with Hugo tells a lie, then this "girlfriend" appears and the guy wants his cut. Hugo hands over $1 and "Rapido", "Rapido" soon follows as we all escape the time and place. 6th floor now. Cascadas. Can you picture this? The friend of our girlfriend is ready for a mini-party. However, my 83 c cuarto is ready to fry an egg on the floor. Thus, no acciones. Ella va. Why. Es todo. Donde esta Hugo? Ahh, but a faint sound of his door sounds as I prepare for a hot night's rest. I offered a goodbye and Hello, to the lady who just left room 6 xx. "Hugo. ", I asked. And Hugo explained some minor yet relevant details. Thanks 4 clearing that up Hugo. "Adios" to the girl at the elevator I proclaimed, and she was on her way. 11 am hits and I wake up for the 5th time. 11:30 hits and Hugo has been off and running for hours now. 12:00 pm hits and there is a knock on my door. Time to check out? No clue. I open the door, and Hugo introduces me to "Giovanna de Francisco, de LOS Flores de la Luna. La de the". Does she hold some special place in Hugo's heart with her short candy-cane attire? I in my kerchief and inappropriate attire would close the door and meet the loving couple in 20 minutes on the balcony. A view of a girl named "Wendy" occurs, followed by a visit with a friend from a bar. Discussions of NFL preseason and the prior night's highlights would occur. Bright out. Hot and humid. Caliente Race book called as we received our $20 front desk deposits. 2 hours of Dogs and parlays discussions would lead to lunch and a cab ride. Some Italian joint cerca de Hotel Ticuan. Lasagna and a tune such as "Besame Mucho" would follow. Decision time. Ligna? Perhaps. The goal was 6 pm. This became 10 pm in reality. Then, as we reached the crossroad, I made the conscious decision to return ourselves to the Zona for a final gig. A visit with our friend and Hugo's partner in crime of the female persuasion would ensue at La Gloria. Prior to this, a tour of the scents of nasty small bars with a local clientele. That was a treat. Back to Caliente for Hugo's 2-team parlay as the Mets trailed 5-2 in the 6th. Game over right? 5-5 as I would cash 3 winning dog race tix. "Virtual Dogs" right Hugo? Virtual insanity. Winning those races turned me on really. Time to make a move. Hugo watched his Mets win 8-5 in 13 innings and the Cards would also be victorious for him 5-3. Nice 2-teamer Hugo. We would then discuss a combination of the options that lie out in the alley and side streets, with NCAA football lines in week #1 (all pluses on that ticket looked cool right H? LOL! Fun. Bliss. Good times. Not a single sip of alcohol all day. We were fine. I explored my options and decided upon the right one once she was through shopping. She had a special look. A read vibe. Hugo mentioned the meeting place, and 1. 274895 hours later, I would find myself in a minor tussle which turned rosy immediately thereafter. Everyone just got too excited too fast in front of that bar. Can't we all just feel all right? Thinking back to moments earlier. Wow. She really was fantastic. A true team-player with a player. Hugo saw me. He was busy with his own female company. And she was in the 6 to 7 range. Good drinking company to say the least. The, the running midget would make his final STREAK. Ok then. Someone tried a jacket on me. I didn't feel to "old-school" at the moment, so it was on to other things. Like, well. La Ligna. 10 pm now. Hugo says $3, driver says no. Next cab. Same thing. Next cab. Same thing. So I have enough of this patterned behavior. A $5 bill jumps out of my wallet and we find ourselves in a Tijuana taxi busting crazy-like towards the border. "Ligna" - no wait. None. What was the purpose of your visit? Done. Cleared. Through. Locate the car (glad it was still there. Mercy* start the said car, quick to the freeway and as we arrive at our arrival. Our final destination. Well. I would sincerely thank Hugo for a time well spent. 33 hours which we certainly made the most of. The moral of the story for all members here: Just go, and have fun. Don't sweat the small stuff you read on here. Do what you do. And do it well. Stay cool. Know your limits, and enjoy what Tijuana has to offer in most any aspect. Happy fun times. A truly excellent 33 hours.
Exoticspirit
08-28-15, 15:59
Do you plan on parking in the Duty Free lot, if so you will use pedestrian bridge. The new ped crossing is on the trolley / McDonald's side. The same side where you will exit the US customs / immigration. Just follow the crowd from McDonald's. Make sure you either have a valid passport or valid passport card.I will be taking the trolley from the San Diego airport. I remember years ago, as soon as I walked through turnstiles into Mexico, there was a right hand walkway that went to this overhead pedestrian bridge on the Tijuana side over a canal that have. This led to Primera street.
I was planning to walk this route to Revo and ZN again but if the new Mexican entries are now different, I don't know if this former route is now feasible.
I will be taking the trolley from the San Diego airport. I remember years ago, as soon as I walked through turnstiles into Mexico, there was a right hand walkway that went to this overhead pedestrian bridge on the Tijuana side over a canal that have. This led to Primera street.
I was planning to walk this route to Revo and ZN again but if the new Mexican entries are now different, I don't know if this former route is now feasible.The old route is not feasible now, the entry into Tijuana is on the trolley side. Plus, getting to the old route would be a task in itself.
BTW, there is no trolley at the airport.
http://www.sdmts.com/Trolley/Trolley.asp
Baxter Slade
08-28-15, 21:42
Wow Caprese I'm not sure if you left me more impressed with your ability to handicap sports or your ability to remember so many details after drinking so much. You even remembered the full name of the girl who gave you the wake up call. It must be nice to have Caliente fund your whole mexican adventure. I spend a fair amount of time at the Caliente and I never even knew of virtual dog racing. Let alone you could make money from it.
As far as the little person some may think he was talking about the mesero at Adelita bar. No this was an older fellow wearing a white hat. It was like ground hog day wherever we went this guy would coming running by. One time he even shoved me out of the way. Maybe a midget on speed?
And all that shopping you did in trying to select the perfect SG seemed to payoff after listening to the details of that session. But why no details of that encounter for the fellas on ISG. I get it you want to keep that one for yourself.
And Artysyp as far as your pick for italian (Giussepiss) compared to my favorite italian place in Tijuana (Vittorios) in Caprese's unbiased opinion you win.
And Caprese as far as a goal of leaving by 6 p. M the following day. Remember the original goal was to leave by 3 am 4 the latest and not even stay overnight. THANKS I'm on my way to divorice court.
A buddy and I have talked about Tijuana before and are finally going soon as he'll be in town. I've seen reports in the past about a parking lot and walking across the border. Does this still hold true?
If so, what is the name of the lot (s)? Is it best practice to get a cab once across and head to Hong Kong or one of the other clubs? Your advice in maximizing our fun in the limited time we have.
Would be much appreciated.
ScatManDoo
08-29-15, 02:17
I will be taking the trolley from the San Diego airport. I remember years ago, as soon as I walked through turnstiles into Mexico, there was a right hand walkway that went to this overhead pedestrian bridge on the Tijuana side over a canal that have. This led to Primera street.
I was planning to walk this route to Revo and ZN again but if the new Mexican entries are now different, I don't know if this former route is now feasible.If you are asking if the old pedestrian path that took you over the river to the Arch at Revo & Primera is still in use. Yes it is.
Soon after entering Mexico (at the La Linea area) you will have an opportunity to take a footbridge over the auto traffic heading towards the United States. From that footbridge, as you descend, you can see the pedestrian path leading to the Arch.
Ninguno Especial
08-29-15, 04:22
A buddy and I have talked about Tijuana before and are finally going soon as he'll be in town. I've seen reports in the past about a parking lot and walking across the border. Does this still hold true?
If so, what is the name of the lot (s)? Is it best practice to get a cab once across and head to Hong Kong or one of the other clubs? Your advice in maximizing our fun in the limited time we have.
Would be much appreciated.You will both need passports to walk across as they are now enforcing a law. Unless you happen to be in a cluster and they easily get overwhelmed and open the flood gates with no passport check. Closest lot is behind Jack and Box which is a left turn at the last stop light on San Ysidro Blvd. I think 7 bucks for 8 hours but may be more Friday thru Sunday. Other option is park at a trolley station lot, pay $2. 50 to ride the trolley to the border. But you need to be back by 1 am I believe as service stops. Good luck.
If you are asking if the old pedestrian path that took you over the river to the Arch at Revo & Primera is still in use. Yes it is.
Soon after entering Mexico (at the La Linea area) you will have an opportunity to take a footbridge over the auto traffic heading towards the United States. From that footbridge, as you descend, you can see the pedestrian path leading to the Arch.To get to that foot bridge from where the new entry leads you to, he would have to back track towards the border. The foot bridge is not close like it used to be.
A truly excellent 33 hours.Thanks for the report.
But remember, paragraphs can be good.:)
You can now skip the temporary resident card and apply directly for permanent residency.
Residente temporal visa for 3 years then you can apply for a visa permanent during the 4th year which is what I did and received, as I have maintained a home in Puerto Vallarta for what seems like forever.
They do but it is only available in Mexico City, Cancun and Los Cabos.
http://www.viajeroconfiable.inm.gob.mx/index.php/location/
I think they have some type of expedited pass system similar to Global Entry that I noticed last time I flew thru Mexico City about three months ago.
CarnifeXXX
08-29-15, 16:52
Can anyone confirm if whether a passport is needed to cross from Otay into Mexico? I heard they only have this passport measure in place a San Ysidro.
Exoticspirit
08-29-15, 17:35
To get to that foot bridge from where the new entry leads you to, he would have to back track towards the border. The foot bridge is not close like it used to be.If I cannot get to the foot bridge that easily, would I still be able to walk from the new entry areas to Revolution relatively easy? I was hoping to check out Revo anyway before I go up Nino to the ZN.
If I cannot get to the foot bridge that easily, would I still be able to walk from the new entry areas to Revolution relatively easy? I was hoping to check out Revo anyway before I go up Nino to the ZN.Personally, I would not walk from the new exit point from the entry at all. There are a lot of cabs at that point, and there no need to risk the walk.
Just ask a cab, "Cuanto a Revolucion?" It should not be more than 3-4 dollars. If the yellow cabs want more, then ask the Libre cabs.
What risk are you referring to? The risk from heatstroke? Obviously it would depend on the time of day but other than the fact it is now a longer walk I can't see why if someone wants to do walk they can't do so.
There are a lot of cabs at that point, and there no need to risk the walk.
GolfSexRroll
08-30-15, 02:57
What risk are you referring to? The risk from heatstroke? Obviously it would depend on the time of day but other than the fact it is now a longer walk I can't see why if someone wants to do walk they can't do so.I have had no problem walking. The new walkway puts a few more steps in the walk, but I have not had any problem doing so. But of course I am a renegade! I have no fear and others say I have no brains! Those of you know who you are! Jajaja.
What risk are you referring to? The risk from heatstroke? Obviously it would depend on the time of day but other than the fact it is now a longer walk I can't see why if someone wants to do walk they can't do so.I don't see the immediate walkway once exiting the immigration building being an issue. However the end point is far removed from a direct path to centro. Some people may not feel comfortable going off the beaten path to get to centro even if it is only for a few minutes. That is what I think Tom was trying to convey.
What risk are you referring to? The risk from heatstroke? Obviously it would depend on the time of day but other than the fact it is now a longer walk I can't see why if someone wants to do walk they can't do so.You have been there many times and you are familiar with the city. Different situation for the OP who is not familiar with the terrain.
I always side with caution, especially with infrequent travelers to Tijuana. Besides the rateros, you also have the police shakedowns.
I'm there every week and I always take a cab.
I'm stating my opinion. But if you and others want to save a few bucks; have at it.
Exoticspirit
08-30-15, 06:49
I don't see the immediate walkway once exiting the immigration building being an issue. However the end point is far removed from a direct path to centro. Some people may not feel comfortable going off the beaten path to get to centro even if it is only for a few minutes. That is what I think Tom was trying to convey.Where does the new entry exit point leave us on a map, ie. , near what street corner? I'll take a look on Google Maps to see where it is in relationship to where I want to go and make a decision.
Where does the new entry exit point leave us on a map, ie. , near what street corner? I'll take a look on Google Maps to see where it is in relationship to where I want to go and make a decision.When you exit the mexican immigration booth you will exit down a long bridge / ramp which leaves you in the exact same place a taxi would drop you off if you asked to go to " Sentri ". Another way to look at it is it leaves you at the very top of the hill where the pedestrian line going back to the USA sometimes extends.
I agree with Tom that for the first time you should take a taxi and gain your bearings.
Can anyone confirm if whether a passport is needed to cross from Otay into Mexico? I heard they only have this passport measure in place a San Ysidro.Correct, only San Ysidro got the new measures. For now.
Ninguno Especial
08-30-15, 17:08
Big Bro be watching you.
Biometrics, which measures physical characteristics unique to an individual, can be used in verifying identity. The methods include fingerprinting, but also iris scans that focus on the unique characteristic of the colored part of an individual's eye, and facial recognition technologies that look at bone structure and curves around the eye socket.
Unlike fingerprinting, both iris and face images can be taken at a distance of several feet, said James Wayman, a biometrics expert at San Jose State University. But these methods "can be sensitive to lighting conditions and human factors, such as hats, glasses and contact lenses. ".
The Otay Mesa trial "will determine if the available technical options for automated passenger recognition can be expanded to include iris and face imaging. ".
Once the experiment starts, northbound foreign pedestrians at Otay Mesa will be processed through kiosks that are capable of taking iris and facial scans, according to Pete Flores, director of the CBP's San Diego field office. USA Citizens would not face any changes in the way they are processed, he said.
For those crossing southbound into Mexico, the agency is preparing to set up a small processing center under a canopy just west of the port's vehicle lanes where pedestrians walk into Mexico.
These southbound crossers would be separated by categories: USA Citizens with passport cards or other radio frequency identification-enabled documents would simply swipe the cards through a document reader, with no biometrics involved, Flores said.
Non-USA Citizens with RFID-enabled documents such as the updated USA Visa card would "walk through," Flores said. "As they walk through, we will have an RFID reader, and we will have a device that will read the iris. The intent is to capture individuals while they're on the move. " The area will also include facial biometric cameras.
San Diego Tribune 8/29/15.
The walk from the new exit adds about 3 blocks of distance compared to the old exit. However you need to walk over a bridge that lacks a complete sidewalk. So there is some risk getting whacked by a taxi coming over the bridge with the sun in his eyes and a natural blind spot resulting from coming over the crest of the bridge. Add the blazing heat and it's better to cough up 50 pesos, even if it is only to 2nd and Revolution should one prefer to sight see prior to partying in the Zona.
Take a taxi. It's worth it.
Big Bro be watching you.
Biometrics, which measures physical characteristics unique to an individual, can be used in verifying identity. The methods include fingerprinting, but also iris scans that focus on the unique characteristic of the colored part of an individual's eye, and facial recognition technologies that look at bone structure and curves around the eye socket.
Unlike fingerprinting, both iris and face images can be taken at a distance of several feet, said James Wayman, a biometrics expert at San Jose State University. But these methods "can be sensitive to lighting conditions and human factors, such as hats, glasses and contact lenses. ".
The Otay Mesa trial "will determine if the available technical options for automated passenger recognition can be expanded to include iris and face imaging. ".
Once the experiment starts, northbound foreign pedestrians at Otay Mesa will be processed through kiosks that are capable of taking iris and facial scans, according to Pete Flores, director of the CBP's San Diego field office. USA Citizens would not face any changes in the way they are processed, he said.
For those crossing southbound into Mexico, the agency is preparing to set up a small processing center under a canopy just west of the port's vehicle lanes where pedestrians walk into Mexico.
These southbound crossers would be separated by categories: USA Citizens with passport cards or other radio frequency identification-enabled documents would simply swipe the cards through a document reader, with no biometrics involved, Flores said.
Non-USA Citizens with RFID-enabled documents such as the updated USA Visa card would "walk through," Flores said. "As they walk through, we will have an RFID reader, and we will have a device that will read the iris. The intent is to capture individuals while they're on the move. " The area will also include facial biometric cameras.
San Diego Tribune 8/29/15.Can you please provide an active link to this article. I was not able to find it online.
Thanks
I found it but for some reason cannot link it to this comment. Times are changing !
Where does the new entry exit point leave us on a map, ie. , near what street corner? I'll take a look on Google Maps to see where it is in relationship to where I want to go and make a decision.Again, don't overthink this. Simply grab a cab and tell him to take you to Hotel Nelson. That's on the corner of Primera and Revu. Then you can walk south up one side of Revu, to about 9th, then back down the other side until you get to wherever you want. Then head west to NH and go to the Zona. Easy peasy.
Personally, I would not walk from the new exit point from the entry at all. There are a lot of cabs at that point, and there no need to risk the walk.
Just ask a cab, "Cuanto a Revolucion?" It should not be more than 3-4 dollars. If the yellow cabs want more, then ask the Libre cabs.There's a board with all the rates posted for a yellow cab into locations in and around Tijuana. The posted price to say Avenida Revolucion and 2nd street is 35 pesos. I always walk up to the board, point at the price and they grudgingly stick me in a cab and I pay 35 pesos versus the $ 4 US the drivers will typically quote. Additionally there is a sign that says if a driver charges you more than the posted price that they will pay you six times the fare. Interesting and has probably never been enforced.
Ninguno Especial
08-31-15, 04:36
Can you please provide an active link to this article. I was not able to find it online.
Thanks
I found it but for some reason cannot link it to this comment. Times are changing !Well, a... Ok... you need to scroll down on the page to find the portion i copied and pasted.. I didn't post the entire article.
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2015/aug/29/cbp-biometric-otay-mesa-mexico-iris-facial-scans/
Wow Caprese I'm not sure if you left me more impressed with your ability to handicap sports or your ability to remember so many details after drinking so much. You even remembered the full name of the girl who gave you the wake up call. It must be nice to have Caliente fund your whole mexican adventure. I spend a fair amount of time at the Caliente and I never even knew of virtual dog racing. Let alone you could make money from it.
As far as the little person some may think he was talking about the mesero at Adelita bar. No this was an older fellow wearing a white hat. It was like ground hog day wherever we went this guy would coming running by. One time he even shoved me out of the way. Maybe a midget on speed?
And all that shopping you did in trying to select the perfect SG seemed to payoff after listening to the details of that session. But why no details of that encounter for the fellas on ISG. I get it you want to keep that one for yourself.
And Artysyp as far as your pick for italian (Giussepiss) compared to my favorite italian place in Tijuana (Vittorios) in Caprese's unbiased opinion you win.
And Caprese as far as a goal of leaving by 6 p. M the following day. Remember the original goal was to leave by 3 am 4 the latest and not even stay overnight. THANKS I'm on my way to divorice court.Yes sir, I am sure I was quite impressive on many counts. Remember - "No chalk" on those parlays OK? Heck, as for the wake-up call girl's name - - just made that up. LOL. But it did sound so formal 2 me when you introduced her that morning as I opened mi puerta in my birthday suit. And yes, Caliente paid for about 75% of the trip. The La Gloria thing set me back about $60 to $80 overall with drinks and tips. Oh, and the first time I saw Virtual Dogs was at "Pueblo Amigo" Hotel late night / early AM. Thought it was very cool for an after-hours kinda thing. Midget on speed? Not sure who that masked man was in the white hat, but he was certainly speedy. Did he shove you? Don't really remember that. Glad you enjoyed the detailed session description of the SG that I made my best efforts to find late in the game. No details on ISG? Just seemed a little too sexy for the site. Both your Italian place and the one selected by Artysyp were very cool to visit. But I think I do prefer the "service" at Artysvp's joint. And it's a little closer as well. Still, the food was good at both. Thanks for taking me to that place however. Always fun to experience a new place. Divorce Court? Um. I do feel guilty if any truth lies in that. Funny how the original plan was to stay for 12 hours, but I do recall you mentioning that you would stay at Cascadas if I did the same. I guess the past can never be changed. Very glad we did it.
Hi Tomjackin,
Agreed, and I always use them. However, when I tried to post something with paragraphs once before, the site did not allow me to post it. It mentioned something about "Unnecessary Hard Returns", thus I decided to put the whole thing in one paragraph.
Thanks for the report.
But remember, paragraphs can be good.:)
JimmyKienTran
08-31-15, 16:22
Hey guys good morning, Iam from Orange County, planning on a trip down south, I heard there a new entrance, how strict is the search and security on luggage? Iam only carrying a back pack but also throwing a vape pen contain cannabis oil in it. Iam kinda scared that they will flip out on me. Any advise guys? I really need my med. Thanks.
Explorer8939
08-31-15, 16:51
Hey guys good morning, Iam from Orange County, planning on a trip down south, I heard there a new entrance, how strict is the search and security on luggage? Iam only carrying a back pack but also throwing a vape pen contain cannabis oil in it. Iam kinda scared that they will flip out on me. Any advise guys? I really need my med. Thanks.Perhaps you might want to check out the various jails on both sides of the border to select the one most appealing to you. Marijuana is illegal at the border.
FYI, although possession of personal use quantities of drugs has been decriminalized, not legalized, in Mexico. It's still a crime to import drugs even for personal use into Mexico.
Iam only carrying a back pack but also throwing a vape pen contain cannabis oil in it. Iam kinda scared that they will flip out on me. Any advise guys? I really need my med. Thanks.
It's still a crime to import drugs even for personal use into Mexico.And it's incredibly fucking stupid, and it's not necessary. Bringing dope into Tijuana makes about as much sense as bringing your own spaghetti to Italy.
Iam kinda scared that they will flip out on me. Any advise guys? I really need my med. Thanks.Stay Home. You seem to lack common sense which is dangerous in TJ.
Hey guys good morning, Iam from Orange County, planning on a trip down south, I heard there a new entrance, how strict is the search and security on luggage? Iam only carrying a back pack but also throwing a vape pen contain cannabis oil in it. Iam kinda scared that they will flip out on me. Any advise guys? I really need my med. Thanks.Just try it and give us a report when you get back. Or if they have wifi in Hotel Tijuana.
Only been going to Tijuana for the last 4 months but the last two weeks the energy seems to be lacking both on the street and in the bars. Anyone else notice this not saying there is a correlation in the new border crossing maybe everyone still on vacation I don't know but its seems different.
Plus we told this j@ck@ss the same thing three years ago:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/search.php?searchid=1255690
You can lead a horse to water, and so forth.
Plus we told this j@ck@ss the same thing three years ago:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/search.php?searchid=1255690
You can lead a horse to water, and so forth.The clown pops-up every 2-3 years and asks the same dumb ass questions.
He also gets the same the same answers!
As if, the board members have changed and he might get different answers; he should be banned from the site.
ItsMeBeyatch
09-01-15, 04:21
I took a vape through San ysidro on Friday and had no issues. I keep my e cig in my back pack or in my pocket. I don't necessarily try to hide it because there is no way of proving it is cannabis unless it smells like it. I openly smoke it in the open like it is a regular vape pen. I've smoked it in front of Tijuana cops and USA Cops. You will be taking your own risk but for myself I am very comfortable with what I use. This is what I use. Absolute extracts. I take this shit everywhere when I want to be discreet in smoking cannabis. I've taken it to Disneyland, disneyworld, Bahamas cruise, movies, airplanes, Tijuana etc. You name it. It looks like a regular e cig vaper cartridge. It doesn't smell like cannabis and looks exactly like you are smoking a regular vape pen. The only time I got shit for it was when I was at caliente in the zona. The guy goes hey hey you. Stop smoking in Spanish. I replied in Spanish that it wasn't smoke but only a vapor pen. He said ok. And so I continued to smoke out in the open. Be careful what vape own you take because some can spell exactly like cannabis.
Hey guys good morning, Iam from Orange County, planning on a trip down south, I heard there a new entrance, how strict is the search and security on luggage? Iam only carrying a back pack but also throwing a vape pen contain cannabis oil in it. Iam kinda scared that they will flip out on me. Any advise guys? I really need my med. Thanks..
ItsMeBeyatch
09-01-15, 04:24
Vape pen. Absolute extracts.
Be careful what vape own you take because some can spell exactly like cannabis.
.I use the "O" pen indica cartridges in San Diego but it definitely smells like MJ or Hash Oil. Are you telling me your pen doesn't smell at all? I still say a trained eye can notice a hash oil cartridge vs e cig juice. The consistency of the hash oil is much thicker and resinous while the e juice is more amber in color.
I will definitely look out for your brand. Feel free to PM me with any more recommendations.
You are taking a huge risk but I am sure you are having fun doing it.
JimmyKienTran
09-01-15, 04:46
Thanks for the advise everyone yes this what Iam talking about, Iam afraid they will scan my backpack and and ask me about it, can I just keep it in my pocket? So we have to go thru a metal detector? I haven't enter the new entrance yet, this will be my 5th time in Tijuana, here a pic of my pen.
ItsMeBeyatch
09-01-15, 04:58
It's football season so I will be visiting the zona more often and so I purchased my VIP gold card. I was charged 700 pesos (around $43). When to get my room at cascadas and I got 20% off. I asked the front desk at cascadas before purchasing my VIP card if I still get the 20% off and they said yes. I asked the person in the main front entrance not the back side. Fuck those guys on the back side. I payed 750 pesos (around $46). Free beer saved me $5 and free trip to the border. Another $5 saved.
On Saturday night I was relaxing on the cascadas balcony after a session for about 20 minutes trying to relax from the heat also. As I left down the stairs there was a guy running up to me asking for a propina. I said for what, he replies it's his job to clean up. I replied that he has done nothing to earn it since I left no mess there or anything like that. I tell him again what have you done to earn it. He mumbles something and gives a mean mug stare and starts walking away. He was basically talking shit so I walk back up the stairs and ask him again que es el [CodeWord911] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord911). Do we have a problem? He says nothing. I tell him if you have Something to say then say it to my face. He turns around and walks away. That is the first time I had ever had somone at cascadas be rude like that. This asshole wanted a tip for doing absolutely nothing. If I had left a mess then I'd absolutely tip him but fir doing nothing he can kiss my ass and I'd have no problem slapping him in the face. He probably thought I was a push over guy from the USA. I stayed in east Oakland for a couple of years and I feel safer in Tijuana then in oaktown. Now that I think about it I should of grabbed a peso and thrown it on the floor and told him that he would be earning it by just grabbing it from the ground.
ItsMeBeyatch
09-01-15, 05:02
That looks exactly like my cartridge and battery. They aren't looking for vape pens. They are looking for more serious narco related things. If they ask it's a e cig.
Thanks for the advise everyone yes this what Iam talking about, Iam afraid they will scan my backpack and and ask me about it, can I just keep it in my pocket? So we have to go thru a metal detector? I haven't enter the new entrance yet, this will be my 5th time in Tijuana, here a pic of my pen..
JimmyKienTran
09-01-15, 05:06
That looks exactly like my cartridge and battery. They aren't looking for vape pens. They are looking for more serious narco related things. If they ask it's a e cig.
.Thanks buddy, I really need my med to pipe down them putas. If you know what I mean! ?
ItsMeBeyatch
09-01-15, 05:14
Oh yeah I know what you mean. I share it with chicas sometimes. They can't believe it's cannabis till it hits them 5-10 min later. I personally need it to sleep. For whatever reason I can't sleep unless I'm in my own bed unless I have some cannabis help.
Thanks buddy, I really need my med to pipe down them putas. If you know what I mean! ?.
JimmyKienTran
09-01-15, 05:47
Oh yeah I know what you mean. I share it with chicas sometimes. They can't believe it's cannabis till it hits them 5-10 min later. I personally need it to sleep. For whatever reason I can't sleep unless I'm in my own bed unless I have some cannabis help.
.The chicas can't hang with our stuff, they only smoke that mexi shit. Yeah I done that before to it was a wax pen I let her try. Ahahha she got really stone.
Walked across about 10 pm, there were 4 people in front of me in the 'foreigners' line. My paper from last week was expired so they scanned passport again. Some confusion in line about other desks being open, because they are set behind each other. Keep the free paper, it's good for 7 days in / out. Some Mexican-American teens not happy about being in line, lol. Decent lighting now after leaving building area. It's safe.
No americans, in fact was quiet except:
Big military and police presence by adelita / Chicago club. Taxi said drug lord 'el chapo' is in town.
Went to Hong Kong, bought girl a beer, waiter says $9. I went to bar to confirm prices up? Yes it's true. Was mostly older females, nothing to spend big $ on.
Adelitas: slow, not many customers, or girls either.
Chicago club: did not want to walk past all the soldiers and police, so did not go in.
Taxis on way back were leaving people at the other side of the usual drop off point. No line whatever at midnight, too quiet.
IMO, our Monday & Tues is their equivalent of Saturday and Sunday. It's their weekend so most girls are off. Last week there was a hit outside the Chicago Club area. So I guess it's technically a crime scene still. Over the weekend, there was a high police presence where they blocked off the entire block across the HK and Adelitas entrance from 8-10 pm, and intermittently thereafter. I think the street in front of the Chicago Club was cordon off all night. Over the last several months several hits occurred in the Zona during the middle of the week. I guess Tijuana police finally realized it and have stepped up their presence on weekdays as well. But the Taxi guy was probably yanking your leg because if El Chapo was in town, the entire police force would have probably been replaced with Mexican Marines.
Nice report by the way. I have never been in the Zona before Thursday.
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Captain Solo
09-02-15, 05:59
http://www.netflix.com/watch/80025319?trackId=14170286&tctx=1%252C0%252Ca5c6f084-24eb-463b-8133-3ef7750038c2-61806085
A new and very interesting series about Colombia's Pablo Escobar, worth watching. It shows how just a few smart DEA Gringos can defeat the evil Medellin drug cartels with billions dollars of drugs cash and thousands ugly, violent hitmen. We will succeed in Mexico, despite the stupid, corrupt assholes in Mexico's government.
Lots of beautiful bare-ass Colombian women swooning and fucking. It seems The men want money and power; the women just want love and sex. How stupid they are, but the men want money and power to impress their hos. What a stupid and twisted world!
We will win. Justice, peace, prosperity, love and sex will prevail in Mexico for the sake of the sweet and sexy Mexican chicas.
Captain Solo
09-02-15, 16:06
Friday, Sat, Sun or even week nights, Can pick up along freeway 5 after 6 PM.
The hot, sexy chicas are waiting impatiently in Tijuana.
Grandnash84
09-03-15, 05:48
How long should I expect to wait walking across san ysidro to Tijuana on a Saturday night at 9 pm? Haven't been to Tijuana since 2000. Thanks.
How long should I expect to wait walking across san ysidro to Tijuana on a Saturday night at 9 pm? Haven't been to Tijuana since 2000. Thanks.Should not be much of a wait at all at that time. Mostly 18+ kids coming across at that time to go to clubs.
Just bring your passport or passport card; should not be an issue.
On Monday when I stepped into the new building, I was greeted at the entry by one of the pretty agents. I showed her my passport card and she asked how long was I staying, and I told her just one night. She directed me to the free 7 day visa line. I presented my passport card to one of the agents. He asked me what will I be doing in Mexico. I had to hold back on that question. I wanted to say, "Hopefully I can fuck your daughter. " Instead I told him that I wanted to check out Caesar's restaurant because I heard the salad was outstanding. He filled out the visa and marked it for 7 dias, then stamped the date on the visa. The whole process took around 4 to 5 minutes.
On Wednesday when I stepped into the new building, I was greeted at the entry by another pretty agent. I presented my passport card and my 7 day visa. She looked at both and then directed me to the local line.
Outside the building, the walkway will take you to the hectic taxi stands. The yellow cabs are the ones you will see first. They come off a small hill where they line up. There are yellow taxi drivers all over the sidewalk. And they all want your business!
On the other side of the street there are the Libre taxis pointed the opposite direction. The Libre taxi drivers are not allowed to cross the road and mix with the yellow drivers. They stand on the curb and are shouting for your business as well. The Libre taxis have to make a you-turn for the route to HK. Keep in mind, that the yellow cannot stop in front of HK, there drop-off point is in front of Adelita. But the Libre cabs, HK is the drop-off point. I took a yellow cab on Monday and a Libre on Wednesday; both were OK with 50 pesos.
I used to take the HK shuttle van when I returned to the border, but I stopped because I didn't like waiting. It was early and as I was leaving Tropical, I saw the HK limo. The driver was available, so I took the sweet limo back to the border.I went through Monday afternoon without a hitch after showing my visa and passport card. But yesterday (Wednesday) was different. I showed my visa and passport card as I entered the building to one of the agents. He waved me through to the left.
Then there were 2 agents standing next to the wall on the opposite side as the entrance. The male agent called me over and asked me where I was from and asked to see my documentation. I told him I already showed my documentation, but yet he wanted to see it for himself. I showed him and he sent me on my merry way. So they are definitely targeting the Gringos; just a heads up.
BTFW, they spent a lot of money on the nice new building and pleasant walk way, but I noticed that there is at least 1-2 inches gap between the two. As soon as you exit the building, there is an 1-2 inches drop to the walk way. It caught me surprise once. All that money spent, but little thought between the building and walk way.
Once again, a very few Libre cabs in the hectic area. I told one of the yellow cab drivers, "Hong Kong, cincuenta pesos. " he replied, "No, it is five dollars. " I replied, "Olvdalo!. " By the time he changed his mind, I was on my way across the street and grabbed me a Libre cab.
Explorer8939
09-03-15, 23:50
What makes that area so hectic are the blue and white buses constantly passing by. You could simply get on one, and pay the 10 pesos or so, and get let off a couple of blocks from the Zona Norte.
Captain Solo
09-04-15, 00:04
I drive over, so I don't know much about local transportation, besides the yellow cabbie cabrones.
The newbies and infrequent visitors could benefit from knowing other modes of local transportation, which would be cheaper, and good opportunities for them to immerse in local lifestyle. You may be squeezed between a few voluptuous young, hot chicas who are horny, sweating and panting in heat. Hehe.
Where do the blue bus pick up passengers near the taxi drop off point? Where do they drop off near La Zona Norte? Where and How late do they pick up for the return trip?
For guys who want to take side trips outside of Tijuana, there are buses to Ensenada, leaving hour on the hour, from the circle next to the McDonald at the border. The fare is about 100 pesos. You can ask the bus to drop you off at the North end of downtown, across from Hotel Santo Tomas and bar Anthony with the gorilla head. Last returning bus from Ensenada is about 9 PM from Ensenada bus depot 5 block East of the beach.
Collectivos to Rosarito Beach leave from Negrete and Calle 4. Fare is 50 pesos.
Add in some more local alternatives for transportation, food, recreations, fun, sex ect. For the pervs.
What makes that area so hectic are the blue and white buses constantly passing by. You could simply get on one, and pay the 10 pesos or so, and get let off a couple of blocks from the Zona Norte.
Grandnash84
09-04-15, 00:11
Should not be much of a wait at all at that time. Mostly 18+ kids coming across at that time to go to clubs.
Just bring your passport or passport card; should not be an issue.Thanks tom.
What makes that area so hectic are the blue and white buses constantly passing by. You could simply get on one, and pay the 10 pesos or so, and get let off a couple of blocks from the Zona Norte.Do all the Blue bus take the same route? Thought about getting on one once, but was apprehensive about it dropping me off in Lord knows where.
ScatManDoo
09-04-15, 03:19
What makes that area so hectic are the blue and white buses constantly passing by. You could simply get on one, and pay the 10 pesos or so, and get let off a couple of blocks from the Zona Norte.The yellow & white bus that picks up close to the border will take you Primera & Constitution (stops in front of Bar Taurino).
Update: I earlier was told the free white paper was good for ins and outs. But now they say you need a new one every time you come back in. When you get it they ask how many days you intend to stay in Mexico, but if you leave you will need a new one. They keep on suggesting we should buy the 6 month pass.
ScatManDoo
09-05-15, 17:17
Where does the new entry exit point leave us on a map, ie. , near what street corner? I'll take a look on Google Maps to see where it is in relationship to where I want to go and make a decision.On Google maps it looks like the new pedestrian path into Mexico after visa processing drops you off near Frontera.
I am more familiar with Frontera as the path I take when returning to the United States by foot. Frontera handles autos and buses and pedestrians. It has a wide enough sidewalk on its north side.
Frontera is a more direct route (than I used to take from the pedestrian only bridge) to get to the yellow & white buses that cost only 5 pesos last year. I've taken the yellow & white bus to the corner of Constitution & 1st (Primera). That same yellow bus crosses Revo at 3rd street. It might cost 10 pesos these days. If you look at the satellite pictures on google maps you can actually see one of these yellow & white buses parked in the left lane of the traffic circle-like intersection of Frontera and Amistad. That's actually where the the yellow & white bus waits to take on passengers (left lane directly stopped in the traffic circle intersection). On google maps you can see the yellow & white bus stopped but headed in a north-east direction on Frontera.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/E+San+Ysidro+Blvd,+San+Ysidro,+CA+92173/ at 32.5392057,-117.0286252,319 m / data=!3 m1!1 e3!4 m2!3 m1!1 s0 x80 d9491 c5 c6 e6449:0 x2 c39691 edca77 b9 f.
Makes perfect sense to me to provide an incentive for the 6 month FMM. For a whopping $20 you don't have to fill out paperwork every time you cross and you go through a separate quicker line.
Update: I earlier was told the free white paper was good for ins and outs. But now they say you need a new one every time you come back in. When you get it they ask how many days you intend to stay in Mexico, but if you leave you will need a new one. They keep on suggesting we should buy the 6 month pass.
SportMongr
09-07-15, 18:41
Some things I was wondering about. The peso is 16.5 to the dollar. Just years ago the rate was 12-1 and some of the places and ladies rounded to 10 for easy math and because that was the rate shortly before that.
Am I the only one bothered that Americans ie white dudes, black dudes, Asian dudes. Have the rates for everything ie. Food and play adjusted to the dollar. While Mexicans American or locals get away with paying 10-12 peso rates.
When I travel to other countries the rate is the rate. If a sex is 50,000 xyz currency that is the rate. If the dollar is strong good for dollar holders. For a long time the euro ruled. Those dudes were getting extra value due to the worth of their currency. Only in Mexico do they tax that situation and make Americans pay a set rate and Mexicans another.
I was already becoming a Donald trump fan. But after this trip to Tijuana I am leading the parade. Can you even imagine if we tried to pull this off in our markets? In fact we do the opposite for the Mexican and immigrant population. We make everything GRATIS! Such a backhand. Just angered my tacos are 20 pesos when brown skins are paying 10. HK girls happy with 500-700 pesos. But if you speak English the rate goes to 1200. More people need to fight this bullshit.
SportMongr
09-07-15, 18:50
IMO, our Monday & Tues is their equivalent of Saturday and Sunday. It's their weekend so most girls are off. Last week there was a hit outside the Chicago Club area. So I guess it's technically a crime scene still. Over the weekend, there was a high police presence where they blocked off the entire block across the HK and Adelitas entrance from 8-10 pm, and intermittently thereafter. I think the street in front of the Chicago Club was cordon off all night. Over the last several months several hits occurred in the Zona during the middle of the week. I guess Tijuana police finally realized it and have stepped up their presence on weekdays as well. But the Taxi guy was probably yanking your leg because if El Chapo was in town, the entire police force would have probably been replaced with Mexican Marines.
Nice report by the way. I have never been in the Zona before Thursday.I was going to mention. Wtf is up with the cop cars and federali trucks and automatic weapons? On Sunday they were everywhere. So a hit occurred right outside of Chicago? I was eating at that taco stand on the corner outside the see club. Now you got me worried. The old adage. Tijuana is safe etc. Don't believe the hype. Hell! Until you catch a bullet in between bites of your taco? Any bystanders get sprayed? This is not good news I like to hear.
When I travel to other countries the rate is the rate. Then don't go to Iguazú Falls. The admission is lowest if you are a resident of the town. It is higher if you are resident of the province but not the town. Higher still if you are a resident of the country (meaning Argentina; I don't know about the Brazilian side) but not the province. Higher still if you are from a Mercosur country but not Argentina. And, highest of all if you are not from a Mercosur country.
Don't go to the museums in Costa Rica, either. Or fly on Aerolineas Argentina. Or go to Angkor Wat. This is called 'two tier' pricing and exists in many, many places throughout the world
Refresh my memory; what do méxicans get for free in the US? And wouldn't using pesos eliminate these difficulties you seem to be having with the exchange rate?
Hey sport,
I agree. Although I am brown skin they know I am American and they try to take advantage. Best rule of thumb is to pay in pesos and be firm. Call them on their bullshit and don't pay more. Guess Mexicans figure we can afford it. I don't agree with that logic but it is definitely a cultural thing in Mexico to stick it to the gringos. A taco at most should not cost more then 13 pesos just pay like a local and if they give you a hard time grab your sack and tell them a la verdga puto.
I was going to mention. Wtf is up with the cop cars and federali trucks and automatic weapons? On Sunday they were everywhere. So a hit occurred right outside of Chicago? I was eating at that taco stand on the corner outside the see club. Now you got me worried. The old adage. Tijuana is safe etc. Don't believe the hype. Hell! Until you catch a bullet in between bites of your taco? Any bystanders get sprayed? This is not good news I like to hear.There was a hit right in front of the corner taco stand near Chicago club on Tuesday (8/18/15) 3 weeks ago around 10:30 PM. The guy was dead and lying uncovered on the ground right in front of the liquid store for quite a while. Lots of police were there. It was all cleaned up next morning with only flowers and candles next the white wall.
I was going to mention. Wtf is up with the cop cars and federali trucks and automatic weapons? On Sunday they were everywhere. So a hit occurred right outside of Chicago? I was eating at that taco stand on the corner outside the see club. Now you got me worried. The old adage. Tijuana is safe etc. Don't believe the hype. Hell! Until you catch a bullet in between bites of your taco? Any bystanders get sprayed? This is not good news I like to hear.No bystander was hit. It was a shot to the head by a person with a handgun, implying a point blank shot. Recommend you try other Taco stands for now. Odd but with all the hits, I cannot recall when an innocent bystander was involved. However the high security implies a safer environment. But leaves us more vulnerable to shake downs. For the last two weeks I noticed a spiked in stop and frisks for Mexican National males in the Zona. I think you're OK as long as you don't look Mexican.
Some things I was wondering about. The peso is 16.5 to the dollar. Just years ago the rate was 12-1 and some of the places and ladies rounded to 10 for easy math and because that was the rate shortly before that.
Am I the only one bothered that Americans ie white dudes, black dudes, Asian dudes. Have the rates for everything ie. Food and play adjusted to the dollar. While Mexicans American or locals get away with paying 10-12 peso rates.
When I travel to other countries the rate is the rate. If a sex is 50,000 xyz currency that is the rate. If the dollar is strong good for dollar holders. For a long time the euro ruled. Those dudes were getting extra value due to the worth of their currency. Only in Mexico do they tax that situation and make Americans pay a set rate and Mexicans another.
I was already becoming a Donald trump fan. But after this trip to Tijuana I am leading the parade. Can you even imagine if we tried to pull this off in our markets? In fact we do the opposite for the Mexican and immigrant population. We make everything GRATIS! Such a backhand. Just angered my tacos are 20 pesos when brown skins are paying 10. HK girls happy with 500-700 pesos. But if you speak English the rate goes to 1200. More people need to fight this bullshit.You must not get around much, no insult intended. There is a "gringo tax" everywhere. Mexicans (only those in tourist areas) may try to charge gringos more but I can't recall any officially sanctioned double pricing. National parks in Thailand charge roughly 10 x the local rate, and official double pricing in endemic. Viet street hawkers, after one look at your white skin, will screw you into the ground if you let them.
Tijuana is a border town, with everything that implies. Sure they (street hawkers, putas, etc.) adjust things to the dollar value in Tijuana, because it's a dominant currency. You'll see similar in other border towns, whether it's the Euro, the Baht, or whatever. Other places might not, because there is only one dominant currency. You can't use dollars or Euros in Bangkok, for example, and they're not on the border of a richer country. It's simply your job to learn and not get taken advantage of. You're not a local, you'll probably never pay the true local price, but with just a bit of practice you can come close.
Tip one: use pesos for everything. You'll save money during times when the peso is falling rapidly. The local establishments can't keep up.
Tip two: learn some Spanish. Your sessions, and everything, will be much easier and more enjoyable.
Tip three: learn to negotiate. Negotiation is practically a national pastime in Mexico. You don't have to grind, but good-natured counter offers rarely go amiss.
If they try to charge you double for tacos, go elsewhere. There is no shortage of taco stands in Tijuana. In fact, most of the best ones aren't in the ZN.
Refresh my memory; what do mxicans get for free in the US? Hmm, K-12 education, medical care (emergency rooms, clinics and Obamacare), Earned Income Tax Credit, drivers licenses (nominal charge), housing subsidies, SNAP (aka food stamps), WIC, legal representation, just to name a few.
Hey guys,
Can I cross the border with just a passport card. I got my American citizenship just last month and thus would be the first time I go international after becoming a citizenship.
Do they need the passport if I am crossing border for just a few hours? I had a dui in USA 8 years back. Would that cause any problems getting back into the USA.
Anything else I should be careful about.
Thanks!
Exoticspirit
09-08-15, 09:58
Some things I was wondering about. The peso is 16.5 to the dollar. Just years ago the rate was 12-1 and some of the places and ladies rounded to 10 for easy math and because that was the rate shortly before that.
Am I the only one bothered that Americans ie white dudes, black dudes, Asian dudes. Have the rates for everything ie. Food and play adjusted to the dollar. While Mexicans American or locals get away with paying 10-12 peso rates.
When I travel to other countries the rate is the rate. If a sex is 50,000 xyz currency that is the rate. If the dollar is strong good for dollar holders. For a long time the euro ruled. Those dudes were getting extra value due to the worth of their currency. Only in Mexico do they tax that situation and make Americans pay a set rate and Mexicans another.
I was already becoming a Donald trump fan. But after this trip to Tijuana I am leading the parade. Can you even imagine if we tried to pull this off in our markets? In fact we do the opposite for the Mexican and immigrant population. We make everything GRATIS! Such a backhand. Just angered my tacos are 20 pesos when brown skins are paying 10. HK girls happy with 500-700 pesos. But if you speak English the rate goes to 1200. More people need to fight this bullshit.I plan to stick to my 600 pesos for club girls and 300 pesos for street girls offers when I get to Tijuana later this Thursday afternoon. Will be staying for 24-27 hours and will try to pay for everything in pesos including my overnight room at Cascadas.
Hmm, K-12 education, medical care (emergency rooms, clinics and Obamacare), Earned Income Tax Credit, drivers licenses (nominal charge), housing subsidies, SNAP (aka food stamps), WIC, legal representation, just to name a few.You cannot get the EIC if you are not a citizen or a resident alien. You cannot get a driver's license without a Social Security number (the loophole about using a federal tax ID #has been closed). You cannot get Obamacare without lawful permanent residence. You cannot get SNAP without lawful permanent residence and 40 quarters of work credits. The emergency room is not free (although I admit, if they don't pay the bill, there is not much recourse).
Baxter Slade
09-08-15, 17:20
Yes a passport card will work fine as far as the new requirements to enter MX on foot. When heading back to the USA there will be a couple lines there is a seperate line for people using a passport card. Make sure you are in the right line it should help you cross quicker. As far as the DUI that would only matter if you were applying for a sentri card.
The exchange rate is great right now so be sure to exchange some money into pesos. If you like the HK thing bring plenty of $1's.
After you enter MX and have reached the bottom of the ramp where the taxi's are. Cross the street and grab a taxi libre. Before you get in negotiate the fare. Tell the driver what YOU will pay. Offer $3 or 50 pesos. Tell him you are going to bar La Valentina and you will be dropped off in the heart of Zona Norte. And then just have FUN.
Hey guys,
Can I cross the border with just a passport card. I got my American citizenship just last month and thus would be the first time I go international after becoming a citizenship.
Do they need the passport if I am crossing border for just a few hours? I had a dui in USA 8 years back. Would that cause any problems getting back into the USA.
Anything else I should be careful about.
Thanks!
You cannot get the EIC if you are not a citizen or a resident alien. You cannot get a driver's license without a Social Security number (the loophole about using a federal tax ID #has been closed). You cannot get Obamacare without lawful permanent residence. You cannot get SNAP without lawful permanent residence and 40 quarters of work credits. The emergency room is not free (although I admit, if they don't pay the bill, there is not much recourse).Dude, you'd better come here and tell the illegals. They've been doing it wrong all these years. LOL. :D
But, seriously, I never said that everything there was 100% legal. However, the system is very easy to exploit, making me wonder if it was designed that way on purpose.
I think you may be mistaken on the drivers license deal. You CAN get a California license if you're illegal and don't have a SSN. Look at this:
http://dmv.ca.gov/portal/wcm/connect/11a86d62-f848-4012-bc7d-4192bdef4f00/doc_req_matrix.pdf?MOD=AJPERES
All you need is a Matricula Consular car for ID. Anybody can get one of those.
However, it seems a bunch of illegals were issued real, live SSNs under DACA.
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-hollingsworth/administration-gave-social-security-numbers-541000-illegal-aliens
According to Forbes, an illegal can get EITC, at least as of March of 2015. Maybe it's changed in the last several months.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2015/03/09/tax-refunds-to-illegals-under-obama-immigration-action-would-be-stopped-by-bill/
Technically, SNAP can't be obtained by illegals, but many have found ways to circumvent the rules. And there appear to be some loopholes, like the trafficked and battered clauses.
Again, you're technically correct that illegals can't get Obamacare, but I have read of many who did. Also the CA Senate approved a bill that would allow illegals to buy insurance on the CA exchange, although I don't think it's law yet. Also, illegals do receive Medicaid benefits.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/how-undocumented-immigrants-sometimes-receive-medicaid-treatment/
I wonder what would happen if an American wandered into another country and demanded K-12 education, legal representation to allow him to remain in the country, WIC-like benefits for his kids, maternity benefits at taxpayer expense, taxpayer-funded subsidized housing, and the ability to vote in national elections?
It seems to me that the Memxican economy is largely a negotiated economy. As Americans we are unfamiliar with the practice and feel taken advantage of. But in reality, we just need to polish up on negotiation skills to make things fair. A good point of thumb is to always counter offer at 1/3 to 1/2 of the asking price. Thereafter they will go down a little, you up a little, and everyone is happy.
I don't think that they're out to screw us over. But they're always going to over price things in anticipation of us (buyers regardless of nationality) low balling them with a counter offer. It's how things are done since the day they were born. It is unreasonable to expect the Mexicans to change the way they've been doing business in their own country just because we are Americans tourists visiting.
To me a price is reasonable when I buy something, and the owner is screaming and hollering that I am a cheap bastard and that I am ripping him off. To me it's the nicest way of saying thank you for your business.
On the earned income tax credit:
http://www.irs.gov/uac/Newsroom/Earned-Income-Tax-Credit-Do-I-Qualify
"Generally, must be a citizen or a resident alien." There are some loopholes for refugees.
But what I was saying was closed was using the employer tax ID to get a driver's license. Not supposed to be able to do that any more.
RichardGastow
09-10-15, 13:09
I'll be there in a few weeks. Are passports being stamped when crossing the border back to San Diego now?
HorseTrader
09-10-15, 13:40
To me a price is reasonable when I buy something, and the owner is screaming and hollering that I am a cheap bastard and that I am ripping him off. To me it's the nicest way of saying thank you for your business.Hahaha. I haven't had exactly that, but I did have the shopkeeper throw my item at me and mutter something in Spanish as I walked out the door. Another time I was followed into another store and brought back to buy the item at my last offered price.
I'll be there in a few weeks. Are passports being stamped when crossing the border back to San Diego now?-- Are they stamping passports while you enter MX for less than 24 hours? Either way it is going to become very problematic for mongers, stamp in the passport is a concrete evidence for the wife or significant other. Anxiously waiting to know.
Captain Solo
09-10-15, 14:46
Use your passport card. Other visitors have used them to cross in place of the passport.
The car is credit card size, no room for any stamp.
If you don't have the card, apply for one at the passport office. Have to send in the passport. Costs $10 extra at the time of passport renewals.
Baxter Slade
09-10-15, 15:59
-- Are they stamping passports while you enter MX for less than 24 hours? Either way it is going to become very problematic for mongers, stamp in the passport is a concrete evidence for the wife or significant other. Anxiously waiting to know.At this point in time the remedy to the passport stamp is to get a passport card. This can be expedited if you pay a fee. Or cross at Otay. Or drive in.
Another option is to plead ignorance to the new requirement and tell them you did not bring your passport, they seem to be letting people enter with a warning about next time you better bring it.
The Tall Man
09-10-15, 16:13
At this point in time the remedy to the passport stamp is to get a passport card. This can be expedited if you pay a fee. Or cross at Otay. Or drive in.
Another option is to plead ignorance to the new requirement and tell them you did not bring your passport, they seem to be letting people enter with a warning about next time you better bring it.Does anyone know if a SENTRI card with attached Global Entry satisfy or can be used in like fashion as a Passport Card for entry to Tijuana instead of a passport?
The Tall Man.
Does anyone know if a SENTRI card with attached Global Entry satisfy or can be used in like fashion as a Passport Card for entry to Tijuana instead of a passport?
The Tall Man.What about Green Card? In all my visits I was able to came back through the Ready Line with my GC only. The USCIS has never asked me for my passport.
Passport Stamp will be a major bummer.
Does anyone know if a SENTRI card with attached Global Entry satisfy or can be used in like fashion as a Passport Card for entry to Tijuana instead of a passport?
No, the Sentri and GE is only good to enter the US.
Member #4450
09-11-15, 00:04
I went through Monday afternoon without a hitch after showing my visa and passport card. But yesterday (Wednesday) was different. I showed my visa and passport card as I entered the building to one of the agents. He waved me through to the left.
Then there were 2 agents standing next to the wall on the opposite side as the entrance. The male agent called me over and asked me where I was from and asked to see my documentation. I told him I already showed my documentation, but yet he wanted to see it for himself. I showed him and he sent me on my merry way. So they are definitely targeting the Gringos; just a heads up.
BTFW, they spent a lot of money on the nice ne
Once again, a very few Libre cabs in the hectic area.Let me get this clear. When you walk into Mexico they're asking you all these questions and stamping your passport wtf?
I haven't been there about 4 months and don't recall having any of this shit. I just crossed into Tijuana without any questions. Why are they harassing US visitors I don't understand?
Grandnash84
09-11-15, 00:06
Let me get this clear. When you walk into Mexico they're asking you all these questions and stamping your passport wtf?
I haven't been there about 4 months and don't recall having any of this shit. I just crossed into Tijuana without any questions. Why are they harassing US visitors I don't understand?Thank donald trump for this.
Member #4450
09-11-15, 00:13
Thank donald trump for this.Man you're a genius I was going to say exactly the same!
They need our dollar that is not a smart move, they're making it a political issue we are just Tijuana visitors bringing business to Tijuana.
Their business will suffer bad if they make it harder for the visitors, they're not too clever.
Member #4450
09-11-15, 00:39
Are you serious, or this is a joke? The Mexican government in Tijuana is asking US visitors how long are we staying in Tijuana?
I would probably answer them. I would probably say I will stay in Mexico about the same is the 11 plus million of illegals you government allowed to cross into the US A. Hole.
Baxter Slade
09-11-15, 01:02
Thank donald trump for this.I'm not so sure the Donald is to blame this new building was being built before the Trump comments.
I guess we have been spoiled all of these years. There are very few countries you can just walk right into.
I guess we have been spoiled all of these years. There are very few countries you can just walk right into.True. This was one of the last "good times" in America. Of course I had to move down during the tail end of it. Oh Well.
Member #4450
09-11-15, 01:58
I'm not so sure the Donald is to blame this new building was being built before the Trump comments.
I guess we have been spoiled all of these years. There are very few countries you can just walk right into.I think it is a political issue against US citizens for what is going on lately with immigration topics. Instead they need to welcome us to Tijuana in open arms because we are making Tijuana economy better. Doing all this interrogatory and stamping visas on passports is unnecessary.
They're just hurting Tijuana tourism and frequent visitors. Tijuana is already a city of high crime they should make things easier for visitors is just common sense.
ItsMeBeyatch
09-11-15, 03:14
Yes please say that you dumbass. This building has been in the making for years. This shit didn't just pop up over night. How spoiled everyone has become to complain about 10-20 minute delay. I'll take that delay any day of the week compared to coming into the USA with the 2-3 HR wait. This is the normal process the majority of the country's around the world go through. You usually have to show some type of documentation showing who you are and answering a few questions. How spoiled and entitled we Americans have become. We complain about going into another country if they ask us for a passport and how long we will be in there country.
Are you serious, or this is a joke? The Mexican government in Tijuana is asking US visitors how long are we staying in Tijuana?
I would probably answer them. I would probably say I will stay in Mexico about the same is the 11 plus million of illegals you government allowed to cross into the US A. Hole..
LifeIsABeach
09-11-15, 03:57
What about Green Card? In all my visits I was able to came back through the Ready Line with my GC only. The USCIS has never asked me for my passport. Passport Stamp will be a major bummer.Green Card is not a international document. It is merely for temporary workers in USA and has nothing to do with any other country. It's a valid document to enter USA only.
Member #4450
09-11-15, 04:00
Yes please say that you dumbass. This building has been in the making for years. This shit didn't just pop up over night. How spoiled everyone has become to complain about 10-20 minute delay. I'll take that delay any day of the week compared to coming into the USA with the 2-3 HR wait. This is the normal process the majority of the country's around the world go through. You usually have to show some type of documentation showing who you are and answering a few questions. How spoiled and entitled we Americans have become. We complain about going into another country if they ask us for a passport and how long we will be in there country.
.Hi a pleasure to meet you. First of all no need for personal insult ASSHOLE! On the hand the building is just an structure it has nothing to do about my topic?
They never asked for anything in the past 20 years that I've been going to Tijuana so what a fucking building has anything to do with passport stamps and all the questionsThey ask?? Or maybe I hurt your feelings when I said "Illegals" dumbass!
LifeIsABeach
09-11-15, 04:01
Thank donald trump for this.DT has nothing to do with this. MX has been planning the new building for some time and they demolished the old entrance a couple of years ago. If the Tijuana businesses report lack of business, the entrance requirements may change but don't bet on it. It's MX government and things change at a snail place, like USA.
Captain Solo
09-11-15, 04:14
The US government probably pressured Mexico into tightening her borders to check for Terrorists, hitmen, Fugitives, Cash Mules ect. Who cross into Mexico unchecked before.
Don't know how well Mexico will do her checking. They need a massive data base similar to CBP with a lot of on-line intelligence to do it well. Of course the pros like terrorists, hitmen and Cash mules etc. Can always buy fake passports to fool the system.
Member #4450
09-11-15, 05:06
DT has nothing to do with this. MX has been planning the new building for some time and they demolished the old entrance a couple of years ago. If the Tijuana businesses report lack of business, the entrance requirements may change but don't bet on it. It's MX government and things change at a snail place, like USA.A building is just that a building, stamping passports and asking a bunch of stupid questions is not because of a new building they could've done that before the building if they want to.
This is shit because I just renewed my new passport I don't need 30 TJ stamps on it if I enter 30 times I don't mind answering questions but why they have to fuck with the US passports.
ItsMeBeyatch
09-11-15, 06:06
They built that building for this reason. To do what they are doing not just to say hey look at our new building. Where were they going to do this before? That little room after you cross the gates. Yeah that would have worked. Have you even been in the new building? I guarantee they won't stamp it 30 times if you enter that many times. You are complaining just to complain. Go through the process they report back with your yelp rating. I've been in the new building 3 times since it opened and still haven't received a stamp to my passport. I'm looking at getting a passport card after tequila festival next month since I'll be away from Tijuana fir a couple of months because of the holidays. The week after it opened I went to the otay Mesa border because I also didn't want my passport stamped. No stamping going on there. Shit there was no one even there as I crossed with 3 other people. But there was a shit load of construction going on. That's been going on for about 6 months strong. I mean a shit load. So this new system might be going to otay Mesa shortly.
A building is just that a building, stamping passports and asking a bunch of stupid questions is not because of a new building they could've done that before the building if they want to.
This is shit because I just renewed my new passport I don't need 30 TJ stamps on it if I enter 30 times I don't mind answering questions but why they have to fuck with the US passports..
This is shit because I just renewed my new passport I don't need 30 TJ stamps on it if I enter 30 times I don't mind answering questions but why they have to fuck with the US passports.Just my thoughts on the subject.
I'm not a happy camper either. I do have a passport card which they can't stamp.
It's Mexico and anything can happen for no apparent reason.
I think the goal is nothing more than money driven; not securing their border.
If you are a regular here, than you are targeted. I first took the time to get the 7 day free visa, but fuck, I do not want to do that on a weekly basis; time is money. So they steer you to buy the 180 day visa, which is 332 pesos. I bought one because I'm there almost every week.
So if you buy the 180 day visa, they will only stamp your passport once during that time frame.
I'm getting mixed reports from other sites that they are and are not stamping the passports.
Some are raising hell that they need a passport or passport card to enter the country. My take; you should have a passport to enter any country!
Be aware, they are doing spot checks inside the back of the building as well. They put a lot of money and time into this new building and exit walkway, so the policy will not be stopped anytime soon.
Will the local business lose money, yes, but as far as I know, this policy is directed from Mexico City.
Just my 2 lousy pesos.
Member #4450
09-11-15, 07:26
Just my thoughts on the subject.
I'm not a happy camper either. I do have a passport card which they can't stamp.
It's Mexico and anything can happen for no apparent reason.
I think the goal is nothing more than money driven; not securing their border.
If you are a regular here, than you are targeted. I first took the time to get the 7 day free visa, but fuck, I do not want to do that on a weekly basis; time is money. So they steer you to buy the 180 day visa, which is 332 pesos. I bought one because I'm there almost every week.
So if you buy the 180 day visa, they will only stamp your passport once during that time frame.
I'm getting mixed reports from other sites that they are and are not stamping the passports.
Some are raising hell that they need a passport or passport card to enter the country. My take; you should have a passport to enter any country!
Be aware, they are doing spot checks inside the back of the building as well. They put a lot of money and time into this new building and exit walkway, so the policy will not be stopped anytime soon.
Will the local business lose money, yes, but as far as I know, this policy is directed from Mexico City.
Just my 2 lousy pesos.Thanks for the explanation, but that's just crap they want us to pay for coming to shithole Tijuana WTF they think it is cancun.
So 180 days stamp is about $30 US and I guess $60 for the whole year. Sorry for my confusion I haven't been in Tijuana since May of this year and didn't see anything different. Last time I was there I walked down the stairs to the left went thru the small room and just grabbed a taxi and that's it.
They want the gringo to pay for the fucking new building LOL!
LifeIsABeach
09-11-15, 07:28
stamping passports and asking a bunch of stupid questions. This is shit because I just renewed my new passport I don't need 30 TJ stamps on it if I enter 30 times I don't mind answering questions but why they have to fuck with the US passports.I am with you on this. I also renewed my passport and did not get a passport card as a USA CBP told me once that the chip passport will work in the Ready lane. Guess what, when I tried using my chip USA passport in the Ready lane, the CBP told me that the chip passport did not work. Back to MX crossing passport stamps. They stamped my passport even when I told them that they were not supposed to do so. They said that I am entering their country. I asked if they stamp the Passport card and they do not stop cars and trucks of gang bangers. I got dumb looks and had I asked another question, I bet they would have called over those marinas with guns bigger than them who would have tossed me out. One thing. I can handle one stamp but not any more. If they decide to stamp my passport again, I would rather reverse course and spend my money in the gaslight district in San Diego.
A building is just that a building, stamping passports and asking a bunch of stupid questions is not because of a new building they could've done that before the building if they want to.
This is shit because I just renewed my new passport I don't need 30 TJ stamps on it if I enter 30 times I don't mind answering questions but why they have to fuck with the US passports.How many countries have you gone to the DIDN'T ask for a passport? And I can't think of any, except maybe Canada, that don't stamp your passport. They are simply enforcing a law that's been on the books for, at a minimum, several decades. If you fly into Tijuana (or anywhere else in Mexico) you'd better have a passport and they're going to ask where you're going and when you're leaving. Why should walking into the country be any different?
If passport stamps are a major problem, and you can't afford a Passport Card, cross at Otay. It's no big deal, parking is free if you know where to park, and it's only a few pesos more for the taxi. Or drive. An experienced Tijuana expert such as yourself can surely find a way around such a minor inconvenience until they get everything sorted out.
Frankly, I'm amazed that they haven't done this before now. It was always a joke that anybody could get into Mexico, but getting out was difficult.
Thanks for the explanation, but that's just crap they want us to pay for coming to shithole Tijuana WTF they think it is cancun.
So 180 days stamp is about $30 US and I guess $60 for the whole year. Sorry for my confusion I haven't been in Tijuana since May of this year and didn't see anything different. Last time I was there I walked down the stairs to the left went thru the small room and just grabbed a taxi and that's it.
With the current exchange rate, it is about 20 bucks.
Yes, shit hole? Have you ever traveled to countries in Central America?
Haiti is a major shit hole as well.
Dude, it is what it is, no worries; just roll with the punches.
Member #4450
09-11-15, 07:54
They built that building for this reason. To do what they are doing not just to say hey look at our new building. Where were they going to do this before? That little room after you cross the gates. Yeah that would have worked. Have you even been in the new building? I guarantee they won't stamp it 30 times if you enter that many times. You are complaining just to complain. Go through the process they report back with your yelp rating. I've been in the new building 3 times since it opened and still haven't received a stamp to my passport. I'm looking at getting a passport card after tequila festival next month since I'll be away from Tijuana fir a couple of months because of the holidays. The week after it opened I went to the otay Mesa border because I also didn't want my passport stamped. No stamping going on there. Shit there was no one even there as I crossed with 3 other people. But there was a shit load of construction going on. That's been going on for about 6 months strong. I mean a shit load. So this new system might be going to otay Mesa shortly.
.No I haven't been to the new building I can't wait LOL. So what's all this stamp on passport everyone is here talking? So you don't get stamp on your passport but others do how that works? I hope they drop this stamp bullshit, I'll pay the stamp no problem but they should stamp their ass. Don't they know most gringos are going to get laid in the zona? WTF are they thinking do they want us to get in trouble back home then you need to explain why Ashley Madison list is on your passport.
I just got a renewal I don't want to go thru the whole mailing again to just get a new passport card, it's a pain.
Thanks for the explanation, but that's just crap they want us to pay for coming to shithole Tijuana WTF they think it is cancun.
No, they want you to pay to enter Mexico period.
This is part of a report from my Mexico City trip report:
"As I was crossing through the security check point into Tijuana, I was told to press the stupid red / green light button, and I had the green light. Then some women stopped me and asked where I was going, and I told her. I should have said Tijuana, but my dumb ass didn't. She told me I had to get a travel visa right now. So I had to pay 332 pesos for the useless fucking thing, thus, I started out on my trip pissed! No one ever asked for the visa. ".
Even though I was staying less than 7 days, they still fucked me!
So be it, it goes with the terrain.
Member #4450
09-11-15, 08:08
I am with you on this. I also renewed my passport and did not get a passport card as a USA CBP told me once that the chip passport will work in the Ready lane. Guess what, when I tried using my chip USA passport in the Ready lane, the CBP told me that the chip passport did not work. Back to MX crossing passport stamps. They stamped my passport even when I told them that they were not supposed to do so. They said that I am entering their country. I asked if they stamp the Passport card and they do not stop cars and trucks of gang bangers. I got dumb looks and had I asked another question, I bet they would have called over those marinas with guns bigger than them who would have tossed me out. One thing. I can handle one stamp but not any more. If they decide to stamp my passport again, I would rather reverse course and spend my money in the gaslight district in San Diego.That's what I mean they're ruining all the fun. We should be straight forward like look I am cuming to Tijuana to drink Coronas and fuck the bar girls and then I have to return to my lady back home and she has a 357 magnum with a six inch barrel COMPRENDE?! So can I just pay for the the stamp and just leave my passport clear of stamps. Thank you I love Tijuana and you have a nice day!
Member #4450
09-11-15, 08:58
No, they want you to pay to enter Mexico period.
This is part of a report from my Mexico City trip report:
"As I was crossing through the security check point into Tijuana, I was told to press the stupid red / green light button, and I had the green light. Then some women stopped me and asked where I was going, and I told her. I should have said Tijuana, but my dumb ass didn't. She told me I had to get a travel visa right now. So I had to pay 332 pesos for the useless fucking thing, thus, I started out on my trip pissed! No one ever asked for the visa. ".
Even though I was staying less than 7 days, they still fucked me!
So be it, it goes with the terrain.You were crossing by foot into Tijuana and you told them you were going to Mexico City?
WTF now I'm more confused?
HorseTrader
09-11-15, 09:32
You were crossing by foot into Tijuana and you told them you were going to Mexico City?
WTF now I'm more confused?How many posts on this subject have you made in the last few hours? These nice and experienced mongers have answered all reasonable questions. Because of them, next week I can make my first trip thru the new system without worries. I'll just buy the 6 month visa and not have to deal with much again until March.
If this issue gets you so worked up, I can only imagine the mental turmoil you will experience when a puta puts out real good and convinces you that it is love.
Just get a passport card, spend the $20 every 6 months, deal with a few extra minutes crossing, and don't worry about it.
It's no big deal. I paid the $20 and hopefully I can now skip the lines and walk through. Seems like its a pilot program and they're learning and making adjustments as they go. They do seem a lot nicer than our own Border Patrol treating his own American brother.
I was only questioned once where I was going. The female officer looked loss when I (Asian face) said I was going to Hong Kong. She doubted her English skill and had to request assistance from a male officer. I told him that I was going to HK and Adelitas to meet "mucho bonitas mujeres sin ropa. " She blushed while he laughed his head off and wished me a good time.
I'm fine with it. Hopefully it will catch a couple of fugitives using the border as a safe haven, only to later return to the US to commit more crimes.
Member #4450
09-11-15, 18:39
How many posts on this subject have you made in the last few hours? These nice and experienced mongers have answered all reasonable questions. Because of them, next week I can make my first trip thru the new system without worries. I'll just buy the 6 month visa and not have to deal with much again until March.
If this issue gets you so worked up, I can only imagine the mental turmoil you will experience when a puta puts out real good and convinces you that it is love.
Just get a passport card, spend the $20 every 6 months, deal with a few extra minutes crossing, and don't worry about it.What's the maximum limit of post on the same subject you allow in this forum?? Sorry since when you run this site?
It is an open forum I can post about the weather every freaking day if I want to, some members don't mind. Now if my questions bother you maybe you can move to the next thread it's very simple.
You paid for six months good for you, there's no "JUST" get a passport card you have to go thru a process you can't just get a passport card at the seven eleven genius.
If you read my previous posts I just got a renewed fresh passport book.
You were crossing by foot into Tijuana and you told them you were going to Mexico City?
WTF now I'm more confused?I was flying out of the Tijuana airport; flights are a lot cheaper.
Member #4450
09-11-15, 20:43
I don't remember seeing the new building, where exactly is located? I always park in the south side by the duty free store and I walk over the bridge to the other side. I missed the old entrance thru the south side where the pharmacies and the McDonalds is.
Member #4450
09-11-15, 20:46
I was flying out of the Tijuana airport; flights are a lot cheaper.OK I understand. So if you tell them you were staying in Tijuana for a day or two and then returning to the US do you still have to pay?
Member #4450
09-11-15, 20:51
I was flying out of the Tijuana airport; flights are a lot cheaper.Can you fly international from Tijuana maybe I can save some serious dough when I do?
Member #4450
09-11-15, 21:06
It's no big deal. I paid the $20 and hopefully I can now skip the lines and walk through. Seems like its a pilot program and they're learning and making adjustments as they go. They do seem a lot nicer than our own Border Patrol treating his own American brother.
I was only questioned once where I was going. The female officer looked loss when I (Asian face) said I was going to Hong Kong. She doubted her English skill and had to request assistance from a male officer. I told him that I was going to HK and Adelitas to meet "mucho bonitas mujeres sin ropa. " She blushed while he laughed his head off and wished me a good time.
I'm fine with it. Hopefully it will catch a couple of fugitives using the border as a safe haven, only to later return to the US to commit more crimes.LOL please no offense I just find your comment funny. Quote: Asian face maybe she thought you were going to Hong Kong republic of China. On the other hand most women look at us like perverts I rather be ask by a male officer.
OK I understand. So if you tell them you were staying in Tijuana for a day or two and then returning to the US do you still have to pay?You still have to get the FREE less than 7 day visa.
Member #4450
09-11-15, 23:23
You still have to get the FREE less than 7 day visa.So the stamp is good for 7 days and its free. After 7 days If I want to cross again it is another stamp on the passport for another 7 days correct?
I rather pay the $20 in advance for the 6 months pass with only a single stamp if I'm not mistaking here. Thank you I appreciate it.
So the stamp is good for 7 days and its free. After 7 days If I want to cross again it is another stamp on the passport for another 7 days correct?
I rather pay the $20 in advance for the 6 months pass with only a single stamp if I'm not mistaking here. Thank you I appreciate it.It is a paper visa.
Some report getting their passports stamp, others are not.
I just walked through the building, many waiting for the free 7 day visa.
LifeIsABeach
09-12-15, 01:12
How many countries have you gone to the DIDN'T ask for a passport? And I can't think of any, except maybe Canada, that don't stamp your passport. They are simply enforcing a law that's been on the books for, at a minimum, several decades. If you fly into Tijuana (or anywhere else in Mexico) you'd better have a passport and they're going to ask where you're going and when you're leaving. Why should walking into the country be any different?Do not confuse the San Ysidro border crossing with the Tijuana airport. San Ysidro is regarded as a Business crossing and not your everyday airport type crossing and the rules have been relaxed on both the USA and the Mexican side. Looking at the Ready Lane going into USA, just tell me how many of those Mexican grand mas and children really need the quick entry into the USA? But USA allows it. Hence MX was allowing easy entry into MX Tijuana for economic reasons. Not all entries into other countries are the same. There are other border crossings between USA / Canada and USA / Mexico that are considered business crossings.
LifeIsABeach
09-12-15, 01:18
Can you fly international from Tijuana maybe I can save some serious dough when I do?I flew to Cuba over 10 years ago from Tijuana airport. Great service on the plane, very pretty attendants and drinks all the way to Cancun and then Havana. At that time due to USA embargo, Cuba did not stamp my passport.
ScatManDoo
09-12-15, 04:35
I missed the old entrance thru the south side where the pharmacies and the McDonalds is.You mean where the McDonalds was. The McDonalds in Tijuana near the border has been closed for maybe more than a year.
OK I understand. So if you tell them you were staying in Tijuana for a day or two and then returning to the US do you still have to pay?If you tell the Mexican authorities that you plan to visit MX for just a day or two, they will issue a 7-day visa document. They may or may not choose to stamp your passport booklet.
You can choose instead to pay $20 to obtain a 180-day tourist visa. If you buy the six month visa, whenever you return to Mexico you are allowed to stand in the free-flowing Mexican citizen line for near immediate re-entry into Mexico.
Although you can pay in pesos International flights are generally priced in dollars so the savings may not be what you're expecting. On flights that begin and end in Mexico you can find some bargains with the strong dollar.
Can you fly international from Tijuana maybe I can save some serious dough when I do?
I'm also fine with it. It will also keep the lowlifes who have no documents at all from going to Tijuas to get their fix or the walkers who go to turn tricks to support their habit.
I'm fine with it. Hopefully it will catch a couple of fugitives using the border as a safe haven, only to later return to the US to commit more crimes.
LifeIsABeach
09-12-15, 07:01
I'm fine with it. Hopefully it will catch a couple of fugitives using the border as a safe haven, only to later return to the US to commit more crimes.Do you really think that the fugitives will be crossing the MX border on foot where there picture is plastered on a board? No, they will be going in cars or buses where there are no checks. Fugitives, Drug dealers and gang bangers are smarter than that.
KevinMorison
09-12-15, 19:13
First time ever to get robbed by the cracker jack cops. 8:30 am West side at the end going right. Was drinking my coffee and thrown against the wall. I am a veteran mongers so I know not to walk around in the morning with too much cash. I was looking for a morning BJ, but I was the one that got fucked out of 500 p. Very agressive with their shake down when zero policia are not around. Not much you can do when you have one of those metal beat down sticks across your throat. The pigs are more dangerous than the rateros.
Do you really think that the fugitives will be crossing the MX border on foot where there picture is plastered on a board? No, they will be going in cars or buses where there are no checks. Fugitives, Drug dealers and gang bangers are smarter than that.I think it's a pilot program. As it matures, the system will probably lead to the monitoring of buses and cars, and be instituted at other border crossings. It will never be a perfect system, but just being there will deter many.
Exoticspirit
09-12-15, 20:00
2016 Tijuana Visit.
It's been a couple of years since I first visited Tijuana and I had another chance this year with a stopover in San Diego as part of my travels. This time around, instead of just doing a quick afternoon visit like last time, I decided to spend a night in town at Hotel Cascadas over the Hong Kong club. I reserved ahead of time online.
Transit & Border Crossing.
I took the 992 bus from the airport to American Plaza downtown where I caught the Blue Line trolley to San Ysidro. I did not have exact US change so I paid the driver $7 for an all day pass that was good for both the bus and the trolley. After getting off the trolley, the new pedestrian entrance to the Mexican border was to the left hand side. In a new customs building, I went through the border checking process without any problems. Since I did have my luggage with me, they quickly took a look at the contents and put it through the X-rays. Then they filled out the new form for me and since I was staying for only one night, it was free.
Outside were the cabs and although I was advised to grab the white Libre taxis, the yellow ones were there and I asked a driver if 50 pesos would be accepted for the Cascadas / HK club. The lady driver I got replied okay so I got in. She dropped me off at the La Perla restaurant corner which is opposite corner of the HK / Cascadas site.
Hotel Check In.
When I went up the stairs to the front reception of Hotel Cascadas at about 11 am on the Wednesday, there was already an Asian guy with a HK girl there paying for a short time room. Interesting how things start early. Anyway, the counter guy gave me a room key for a single room on the sixth floor as I requested. He quoted $50 US or 750 pesos which I paid in pesos. Interesting thing is that I did not have to fill in any paperwork nor did he give me any TV control or safety deposit key or anything. I asked about a receipt for the 750 pesos I paid and he said there were cameras all over the place proving that I paid and it did not seem he wanted to do any extra work. He said that if I got an official receipt and all, my room would have to be checked upon my departure first. So I just took the key and went up.
The room was actually nicely decorated even though I did not get any TV remote or safety deposit key. I did not ask since I did not need these anyway. I did like the water dispensers on each floor and since there was one just outside my room, I had access to clean drinking water anytime. This was a nice touch. The room itself proved to be relatively quiet. Apart from the occasional noise of workers during the daytime, I did not hear any street or club noise all night and was able to sleep well overnight.
I went downstairs to check out the back patio area overlooking the back alley scene. One of the cleaning staff (or similar role) asked me for a $1 tip but I refused since he did not do anything for me. Was a bit annoyed at this but this happened only once at the hotel. The rest of the time I did not get any hassles at all.
Streetwalkers.
It was about noon by the time I got outside to walk around the entire block checking out the streetwalkers. There were some out there during this time of day. There were two I liked who were standing on the same side of the back entrance of HK / Cascadas and just to the east. Both of these girls told me that they would not go to the hotel Cascadas. Then I met one standing at the Hotel Eduardo directly across from the Cascadas backside and I think her name was Benevisa from Mexico City. She was willing to go to the Cascadas and quoted 500 pesos if I wanted 30 minutes instead of the usual 20 minutes the streetwalkers do. I countered with 300 pesos as my maximum offer and she accepted.
She did covered BJ followed by missionary. I did not ask about multiple positions since as a first session, I just wanted to bust my nut in missionary so the session worked out fine with me. Funny how she asked about whether I had a family, wife and kids. When I told her that I did not, she seemed quite surprised.
Around Tijuana.
After the first session, I decided to walk around town and from previous recommendations on the board here, I walked down Nino Heroes where they had a pedestrian only area and continued until Manuel Juarez. From there, I went over to Revolucion. I walked up and down both sides of Revolucion which is the main tourist drag and backtracked my way back to Cascadas using the same route. There were lots of people on the streets and I did not have any problems at all.
There were cops on about each corner but they did not hassle me. I walked around the alley block again to see the streetwalker scene once more and had no hassles. I did notice that there was a cop car with lights flashing all the time at the Chicago Club so I never bothered to venture over there.
After an afternoon nap, I walked over to La Perla for an early dinner. I did check out Sonora Grill too which was directly across the street from the Adelitas club but both of these restaurants had no AC and it was a hot day. Since La Perla was bigger and had more fans running, I decided to eat there and for $13 US, I had their Perla seafood dish which was great.
Clubs.
By early evening around 7:30 pm, there were more better looking streetwalkers but I wanted to check out a few of the clubs. I walked into Tropical and noticed that there were several local guys there. The women there were a but chunkier in general but many were actually quite pretty with nice hair and faces. But nobody appealed to me since I prefer the slim ones. So I walked back out and checked out Las Chevalas. The scene was quite similar to what I saw at Tropical. Yes, heavier girls but several actually quite pretty. The main difference was that there was a live band playing at Las Chevalas. Again, since nobody appealed to me, I walked right out again.
I was not going to visit Chicago Club nor Adelitas this time around since I was going to use only my room at the Cascadas for sessions. So my next stop was Hong Kong club. This was the only club where they routinely did a quick pat down by security before entering.
The HK club was relatively busy with guys even though I was told that on weekends, it would be wall to wall. I settled on a dark haired girl with nice boobs named Dany. She quoted $800 pesos but I stated $600 pesos as my absolute maximum I would pay, She accepted. After she got her HK robe, the robe attendant demanded a tip from me which I found very annoying. But I was eager to go on my session so I passed the asshole $1 US. Also, I did not give the club any business since I did not buy any drinks for myself nor any of the girls, I was okay with this stupid tip.
The session with Dany was great. She started doing this lapdance and more foreplay. Don't know if this is the main difference between the club girls and the streetwalkers since my overall experience is limited. After she got me hard with this foreplay, she asked me what my favourite position was. Looks like she was going to skip the BJ altogether but I did not mind since I'm not really a BJ guy unless it's just to get me hard and since I was already, I wanted to get right into the fucking. She put on a condom and went at it missionary since that's what I like (interesting that both her and the afternoon streetwalker I had asked me if I had any condoms in the first place).
We then relaxed and talked about border issues, crime in Tijuana, etc, since she lives in town and spoke more English than the streetwalker I had. She also asked about family, kids and wife.
Final Morning.
The next morning, I wanted one more session before returning to San Diego to catch my next flight. At around 10 am, I saw a few streetwalkers in the alley but not many. I got into HK at about 10:30 and there were several girls there and only a few customers. I asked two different girls including a blonde one with braces named Sara. Both quoted 1000 pesos and would not budge. So I left and went back to the alley to see if anyone else was out there. After about 30 minutes I returned to HK and both girls I talked to were still there. They should have accepted my offer of 600 pesos since business seemed really slow for everyone at that time.
None of the other girls at HK at that time appealed to me as I found them heavier than most of the nighttime shift. So back to the alley and the streetwalker whom I had before was there again. I waved her over as I decided I would just do a repeat with her for 300 pesos. She seemed very happy.
After that final session, I went to Nino Heroes where the pedestrian section was and went inside this market where there were several eateries. For 32 pesos, I had an awesome fried chicken lunch cooked in front of me. I also wanted a taco from one of the street vendors and the guy at the HK corner quoted me $1. 50 US or 80 pesos for one. I think I got ripped off but wanted to get rid of pesos so I paid him for one. It was good but again, I know I got ripped off and should have paid him $1. 50 instead.
After packing, I went to the reception counter to check out. I just handed the guy my room key and that was it. He did not ask about checking my room or anything and since he did not even get any of my name and address info at check in, I just wanted to easy quick exit in case they decide to charge me anything extra.
At the street, the guys hailed me a cab even the white libber taxi was already parked there. I really did not need their help but since they were waiting there for a tip, I just handed the first guy a 20 peso note and told him to split it with the others. A young kid then rushed to the cab window after I got in and also wanted a tip which I refused since he did nothing for me. The driver told him to shoo off as he accepted my 50 peso offer to go back to La Linea which is the border.
At the border, it was terrible. I started to line up at around 1 pm and did not cross the border until 3 pm. I paid for another day pass to take the trolley and bus back to the airport.
I want to thank everyone here for their advice when I asked questions preparing for my trip over the last few months. It would have been nice to try out more than two different girls but for a quick trip, I was quite satisfied. I tried awesome and cheap local cuisine in addition to the girls.
Revolucion itself was a waste of time as expected. But I did want to see it and now that I did, I won't be wasting my time going there again. In fact, I don't think I will be returning to Tijuana again unless I happen to be doing another stopover in San Diego. There are better mongering places compared to Tijuana but for guys who live near there, it is great. But for myself from Ontario, I hardly ever travel to southern California anymore.
So I hope that my report will be helpful to some of you here. Again, thanks for the advice I got. I'll hang out here for about another week to answer any questions but after that, I won't be on this Tijuana thread anymore since I don't plan on another trip. I'll probably start hanging out at threads I'm targeting for future trips like Medellin, Rio and Curacao.
Keep well everyone!
2016 Tijuana Visit.
Thank you for the TR!
Member #4450
09-12-15, 21:30
You mean where the McDonalds was. The McDonalds in Tijuana near the border has been closed for maybe more than a year.
If you tell the Mexican authorities that you plan to visit MX for just a day or two, they will issue a 7-day visa document. They may or may not choose to stamp your passport booklet.
You can choose instead to pay $20 to obtain a 180-day tourist visa. If you buy the six month visa, whenever you return to Mexico you are allowed to stand in the free-flowing Mexican citizen line for near immediate re-entry into Mexico.Sure I'll pay $20 for 180 days best deal Thanks!
Member #4450
09-12-15, 21:37
You mean where the McDonalds was. The McDonalds in Tijuana near the border has been closed for maybe more than a year.
.LOL honestly I haven't check that side since they closed the old Tijuana entrance and I didn't know the McDonalds was gone. I just don't look around much I just grab a taxi and hit zone.
Thanks again.
ScatManDoo
09-13-15, 02:43
First time ever to get robbed by the cracker jack cops. 8:30 am West side at the end going right. Was drinking my coffee and thrown against the wall. I am a veteran mongers so I know not to walk around in the morning with too much cash. I was looking for a morning BJ, but I was the one that got fucked out of 500 p. Very agressive with their shake down when zero policia are not around. Not much you can do when you have one of those metal beat down sticks across your throat. The pigs are more dangerous than the rateros.Sorry that the odds caught up with you KM.
Look on the bright side: 500 pesos isn't worth as much today.
Captain Solo
09-13-15, 03:29
It's very nice that you found it easy to use public transportation from San Diego International airport to Tijuana for your quick jaunt, 3 times with the chicas in a day.
600 P is only $40, a very good deal with a HK sweetie. Even local guys find it hard to get that rate.
You did a lot of research and preparation for your 1 day Tijuana visit. If you know of better locations for mongers, we would be anxious to know.
2016 Tijuana Visit.
Streetwalkers.
It was about noon by the time I got outside to walk around the entire block checking out the streetwalkers. There were some out there during this time of day. There were two I liked who were standing on the same side of the back entrance of HK / Cascadas and just to the east. Both of these girls told me that they would not go to the hotel Cascadas. Then I met one standing at the Hotel Eduardo directly across from the Cascadas backside and I think her name was Benevisa from Mexico City. She was willing to go to the Cascadas and quoted 500 pesos if I wanted 30 minutes instead of the usual 20 minutes the streetwalkers do. I countered with 300 pesos as my maximum offer and she accepted.
Clubs.
The HK club was relatively busy with guys even though I was told that on weekends, it would be wall to wall. I settled on a dark haired girl with nice boobs named Dany. She quoted $800 pesos but I stated $600 pesos as my absolute maximum I would pay, She accepted.
The session with Dany was great. She started doing this lapdance and more foreplay. Don't know if this is the main difference between the club girls and the streetwal!
Baxter Slade
09-13-15, 04:23
It was great to meet up again Km. Sorry to hear that story about Tijuana's finest assholes but thanks for posting. Just a reminder about who to try to aviod while in La zona. At least in the zona the criminals wear uniforms.
True but AFAIK this is the first time any one has alleged that the police went to such extreme use of force to separate them from their money.
Not much you can do when you have one of those metal beat down sticks across your throat.
Captain Solo
09-13-15, 08:27
Thanks for the heads up. Sorry to hear you got robbed!
Tijuana Policia profiles their targets based on some criteria that I wish I know. I do know if you look at the cops, glance at them, say Hi, or change direction ect. You would raise their suspicion. I was in La Zona Friday night. A policia pick up truck carried 10 to 12 guys, all looked like tough guys wearing normal street clothes. Meanwhile hundreds other people were milling around unmolested.
Can you describe what you looked like, the clothes you were wearing and how you were walking?
Perhaps if the bros would trim their long hair, keep their beards neat, wearing clean, upscale clothes, walk with relaxed posture ect. They may be able to fly under the policia radar?
First time ever to get robbed by the cracker jack cops. 8:30 am West side at the end going right. Was drinking my coffee and thrown against the wall. I am a veteran mongers so I know not to walk around in the morning with too much cash. I was looking for a morning BJ, but I was the one that got fucked out of 500 p. Very agressive with their shake down when zero policia are not around. Not much you can do when you have one of those metal beat down sticks across your throat. The pigs are more dangerous than the rateros.
It is indeed unfortunate to be shake down particularly in broad daylight with force. I've seen arrests before and don't even recall them ever using force during their sweeps. Twice in the last several months a guy walking right next to me was stopped and frisked. Both times the guys were walking very fast, and passed me who was mosyimg along chatting with chicas.
I noticed that the cop trucks often contained Latino men so it seems that if you are Latino, you draw their attention. Also if you are in a hurry you draw attention whether you walk fast or weave in and out of people. And one guy put his hands on me to move me out of his walking path was immediately stopped and frisked, I presumed for pick pockettting suspicion. So don't touch other people when walking. Unless of course you're touching boobies, then it's ok.
I suspect that the OP looked like a particular suspect that the police was looking for, hence the use of force. And the 500 pesos was a target of opportunity.
Exoticspirit
09-13-15, 17:49
It is indeed unfortunate to be shake down particularly in broad daylight with force. I've seen arrests before and don't even recall them ever using force during their sweeps. Twice in the last several months a guy walking right next to me was stopped and frisked. Both times the guys were walking very fast, and passed me who was mosyimg along chatting with chicas.
I noticed that the cop trucks often contained Latino men so it seems that if you are Latino, you draw their attention. Also if you are in a hurry you draw attention whether you walk fast or weave in and out of people. And one guy put his hands on me to move me out of his walking path was immediately stopped and frisked, I presumed for pick pockettting suspicion. So don't touch other people when walking. Unless of course you're touching boobies, then it's ok.
I suspect that the OP looked like a particular suspect that the police was looking for, hence the use of force. And the 500 pesos was a target of opportunity.When I was there last week, I saw only one guy sitting in the back of the police truck and he did look like a local. I passed by many cops and was never hassled. I wore jeans and a Cozumel scuba diving t-shirt plus I'm Asian. I walked around basically looking like a tourist, ie. , looking at all the signs, businesses I passed by and of course the girls. I was an obvious tourist and perhaps at least at that time, the cops were not targeting tourists.
Let me make clear about the free white paper they give you when you enter.
It is NOT good for multiple re-entries. Even if you told them you will be staying for the full 7 days limit, you will have to get a NEW one every time you leave and come back.
The passports ARE being stamped every time. What this means is (besides your wife or girlfriend seeing the stamp!), if you go to Tijuana frequently, your passport will soon be FULL with mexican stamps. Would you then have to buy a new passport? I don't know.
Captain Solo
09-13-15, 18:35
Permanent stamps on the passport are the traditional way to document entries into countries. Now your soon-to-be ex wife can just count the Tijuana stamps in your passport and tell the judge how many times you were sneaking into Tijuana behind her back screwing the sweet chicas in Tijuana. Hehe. Life is tough on mongers.
The free white paper must be the single-entry visa. Over the decades I have never seen Mexican Immigration at Tijuana, or any ports of entry, have or use any data online to do any serious checking of IDs or backgrounds of people crossing their border at all. At the San Ysidro entry, there were no immigration officials checking, only a few Customs people randomly searching bags, and a few Marinas guarding. Why would they make people fill out the temp visa forms unless they will enter the data into their data base somewhere and start using them?
Of course we would like to see Mexico catch some of those fugitives and drug-smuggling cartels guys. Perhaps they should buy the device that can scan and read passports data and start building up their data bases. The US can send them update data on fugitives on the loose so they can catch them at the border.
Business in Tijuana dropped sharply after the passport requirement in 2008. Now with this visa impeding visitors, there will be another decline.
Let me make clear about the free white paper they give you when you enter.
It is NOT good for multiple re-entries. Even if you told them you will be staying for 7 days, you will have to get a NEW one every time you leave and come back.
The passports ARE being stamped every time. What this means is (besides your wife or girlfriend seeing the stamp!), if you go to Tijuana frequently, your passport will soon be FULL with mexican stamps. Would you then have to buy a new passport? I don't know.
Let me make clear about the free white paper they give you when you enter.
It is NOT good for multiple re-entries. Even if you told them you will be staying for the full 7 days limit, you will have to get a NEW one every time you leave and come back.
The passports ARE being stamped every time. What this means is (besides your wife or girlfriend seeing the stamp!), if you go to Tijuana frequently, your passport will soon be FULL with mexican stamps. Would you then have to buy a new passport? I don't know.The 7 day visa is good for 7 days, multiple re-entries during those 7 days in not an issue.
As far as stamping the passports; it is only a question that the father of jesus can answer!
Some are reporting that they are stamping the passport, while others are posting they ARE NOT stamping the passport. Thus, no clear answer to that question.
The 7 day visa is good for 7 days, multiple re-entries during those 7 days in not an issue.
As far as stamping the passports; it is only a question that the father of jesus can answer!
Some are reporting that they are stamping the passport, while others are posting they ARE NOT stamping the passport. Thus, no clear answer to that question.Or get a passport card. I will be applying for one very soon.
So the stamp is good for 7 days and its free. After 7 days If I want to cross again it is another stamp on the passport for another 7 days correct?
I rather pay the $20 in advance for the 6 months pass with only a single stamp if I'm not mistaking here. Thank you I appreciate it.
Sure I'll pay $20 for 180 days best deal Thanks!Jeez, Louise! A passport card costs a whopping $30 and is good for, what, 10 years? You can do it all online and by mail. It can't get much easier. Then there is no worry about stamps or any other nonsense.
Baxter Slade
09-13-15, 21:48
Thanks for the heads up. Sorry to hear you got robbed!
Tijuana Policia profiles their targets based on some criteria that I wish I know. I do know if you look at the cops, glance at them, say Hi, or change direction ect. You would raise their suspicion. I was in La Zona Friday night. A policia pick up truck carried 10 to 12 guys, all looked like tough guys wearing normal street clothes. Meanwhile hundreds other people were milling around unmolested.
Can you describe what you looked like, the clothes you were wearing and how you were walking?
Perhaps if the bros would trim their long hair, keep their beards neat, wearing clean, upscale clothes, walk with relaxed posture ect. They may be able to fly under the policia radar?I get the point you are trying to make. Sure your appearance may lead to a greater chance the police will mess with you. However in this particular case this is a Tijuana vet who has spent a lot of time in the Zona and like he stated he has never experienced this situation with the police before. So it pretty much boils down to timing. Being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
The 7 day visa is good for 7 days, multiple re-entries during those 7 days in not an issue.With all due respect, I am sure you are mistaken. When you try to re-enter, your old white paper will be taken away and you will be sent to a desk to get a new one. Source: me, x3. Thank you.
Baxter Slade
09-13-15, 22:17
With all due respect, I am sure you are mistaken. When you try to re-enter, your old white paper will be taken away and you will be sent to a desk to get a new one. Source: me, x3. Thank you.I have heard many conflicting reports on this subject. Some agents will tell you that you can reenter within the 7 days and some will tell you you can't. I had the opportunity to try to figure it out yesterday. I had a 7 day paper that was still within the 7 days. With the paper in my pocket I headed into the Mexican only line and walked right in and nobody asked to see anything. And I certainly don't profile as being of Mexican descent.
So I never did get the answer I was looking for. But I did see things are kind of lax as far as screening goes.
With all due respect, I am sure you are mistaken. When you try to re-enter, your old white paper will be taken away and you will be sent to a desk to get a new one. Source: me, x3. Thank you.Just telling you from my personal experience. I got the 7 day visa on a Monday and I used again on a Friday.
Obviously you seem to know the answer to your own question, why why waste others times asking.
There is no rhyme or reason with the new entry.
The 1st time, they stamped my book. The 7 days pass runs the next day, so my Friday pass was good for the following Friday which in other parts of the world meant 8 days.
The 2nd time on the following Friday, they stamped by book and honored the card.
The 3rd time on a Saturday, they stamped by book and gave me a new card.
The 4th time on the following Friday, they stamped my book and required a new card even though it was only the 6th day on their card.
The 5th time I got fed up and got an 180 days pass but their officer didn't know what to do with the $20 since there is no cash register nor cash drawer.
The 6th time, I flashed by new and dandy 180 days pass and they barely even look at it.
They're sort of working out the mechanics of what the rules are. The only consistent thing they're doing is stamping the shit out of the passports.
KevinMorison
09-13-15, 23:32
So for those that do not know me, I am a fat 39 white looking guy, short hair and jeans and Polo shirt guy. Saturday night going back to Leyva around midnight had a totally different run in with the Polica, the normal encounters I have had over the years, check ID, tell you to hold your money, look at your ID, asks a few questions, and let you go. Yes Scattman 500 p is nothing at all. Cops will do what they want to when other cops are not around. Everyone will have this happen in 20 years of mongering.
HorseTrader
09-13-15, 23:34
2016 Tijuana Visit.
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So I hope that my report will be helpful to some of you here. Again, thanks for the advice I got. I'll hang out here for about another week to answer any questions but after that, I won't be on this Tijuana thread anymore since I don't plan on another trip. I'll probably start hanging out at threads I'm targeting for future trips like Medellin, Rio and Curacao.
Keep well everyone!Excellent trip report! Thanks.
I've spent very little time in Mexico in 2015, so I appreciate the price quotes. For years many people have suggested converting to pesos, but I typically just brought dollars for simplicity. A sexy HK girl that demands 1000 pesos is now tolerable to me, I just think of it as $60 US. A year ago many girls were demanding $80, which corresponded to 1050 pesos at that time. Most would reluctantly accept $60 to $70.
With the new exchange rates, we pay slightly less dollars and they get slightly more pesos. That works for me. I'll definately be bringing pesos when I visit next week.
Baxter Slade
09-15-15, 17:43
El Grito tonight. Should be a pretty crazy night in Tijuana.
HorseTrader
09-15-15, 23:19
Sorry that this is off topic. Long ago someone sent me a PM that recommended a leather shop, I didn't need anything at the time and can't find that PM. I now need some stuff and would appreciate hearing the recommendation again.
Baxter Slade
09-15-15, 23:58
Sorry that this is off topic. Long ago someone sent me a PM that recommended a leather shop, I didn't need anything at the time and can't find that PM. I now need some stuff and would appreciate hearing the recommendation again.PM Artisttyp I believe he has the info you are looking for.
Gentlemen,
I will be in sin city 9-23/9-25 . Last time I was here was 2008 with 2 wingmen 19 years old with not a care in the world. Back then we only had the balls to partake in Adelitas only, didn't even venture to Hongkong or Trop, or even tried the street ladies. ,went to Chicago club was dead, back to Adelitas it was.
This time I shall be returning solo to venture Hong Kong my native land and then dive into the street. With a vengeance. I will be reporting back to HQ with scouting reports. I'm anxious to see how everything has changed for the better or worse. I cross into no-mans land to Cascadas to upload and the hunt begins, any tips on how much I should bring and where to stash emergency funds.
Is this in Tijuana?
http://vidmax.com/video/120988-Two-Mexican-hookers-beat-the-f-ck-out-of-this-man-who-refused-to-pay
ScatManDoo
09-16-15, 14:37
I cross into no-mans land to Cascadas to upload and the hunt begins, any tips on how much I should bring and where to stash emergency funds.Many of Cascades' rooms (not just the master suites) have room safes concealed within the built-in nightstands. Cascades requires a $10 or 100 pesos refundable deposit for the safe key. Just ask the front desk clerk.
For me, I spend between 2,200 to 3,500 pesos for each 24-hour period I spend in LZ.
The Tall Man
09-16-15, 17:16
Gentlemen,
I will be in sin city 9-23/9-25 . Last time I was here was 2008 with 2 wingmen 19 years old with not a care in the world. Back then we only had the balls to partake in Adelitas only, didn't even venture to Hongkong or Trop, or even tried the street ladies. ,went to Chicago club was dead, back to Adelitas it was.
This time I shall be returning solo to venture Hong Kong my native land and then dive into the street. With a vengeance. I will be reporting back to HQ with scouting reports. I'm anxious to see how everything has changed for the better or worse. I cross into no-mans land to Cascadas to upload and the hunt begins, any tips on how much I should bring and where to stash emergency funds.Yes WarLord many changes since 2008.
How much to bring? Answer is how long is a piece of string. Really it all depends on your style and appetite. Example. Your room about $70. / night, drink budget anywhere from $20. To $80. Day. Girls are a $60. To $80. X number of girls you can handle a day. Food probably another $20. / day.
Carry only enough cash on you to make it through a half day, return to your room and replenish cash. You can also hide cash in a money belt or in your shoes, just a few suggestions. You do get better deals if you have pesos.
Have fun!
The Tall Man.
Is this in Tijuana?
http://vidmax.com/video/120988-Two-Mexican-hookers-beat-the-f-ck-out-of-this-man-who-refused-to-payThe bozo who posted this vid apparently has never seen a Mexican. This was somewhere in Brazil. And they look like two tranny hookers to me.
But it is funny.
Those are really athletic women with no hip bone.
What are more difficult to explain to coworkers? Getting beat up by hookers, getting beat up by women, or getting beat up by trannies?
There really are no easy choices in life.
Sorry that this is off topic. Long ago someone sent me a PM that recommended a leather shop, I didn't need anything at the time and can't find that PM. I now need some stuff and would appreciate hearing the recommendation again.Atoyac Leather. Calle 3 between Revolucion and Madero. Speak to Brenda or Hector. If you pm me I can possibly tell you my name for reference and quote you a rough price before you visit.
They're sort of working out the mechanics of what the rules are. The only consistent thing they're doing is stamping the shit out of the passports.This means no Tijuana visit for me. How about pleading ignorance and saying no passport only Green Card as the ID. Are they sending people back.
This means no Tijuana visit for me. How about pleading ignorance and saying no passport only Green Card as the ID. Are they sending people back.I don't know. It depends on how busy they are as you approach. Sometimes when it gets busy, they're letting people through without checking or merely glancing at your passport. One lady didn't bring hers and they were explaining that she needed a passport. On the other hand I did not see her being taken to a separate exit to be toss back in the US.
You could give it a shot and explain that you applied for a passport, but it takes longer to obtain one because you only have a green card. Worse thing that can happen is that you have to go through the Otay crossing. See the new thread below on how to cross the Otay crossings.
KevinMorison
09-17-15, 02:39
When my pal and I crossed over around 12 am Last Friday night, they did not even bother looking at our passport cards and just lazily waved us both in.
Baxter Slade
09-18-15, 02:38
I headed down Tue. Evening to see how crazy the El Grito (Mexican Independence Day) celebration gets. Not to be confused with cinco de mayo the Mexican Independence day the American's celebrate. Entry in through the new building was smooth with the passport card. I did ask the agent if I would be allowed to re-enter within the 7 days using the paper I was issued and he responded absolutely not. More on that later.
Got a room at the Ticuan using a reservation from hotels.com. The price came out close to what you would pay at Cascadas. When you factor in the good A / see comfy beds free parking and free breakfast it is a great place to stay if you don't want to stay in the heart of the zona.
The plan was to meet up with the MBGF get do some drinking in Zona Norte get some dinner and hit Las Pulgas. Our first stop was LC, bad idea had a few beers and the waiter kept bringing over these plates of free food I barely touched mine, but she went on to eat mine and 3 more plates of whatever they were serving. Then it was on to Tropical for a few hours for more beer. I met up with an amigo there and gave him the warning about how to tell when the GF is drunk. She will do the cheers thing and bottles will start breaking. It took me a while but I finally noticed she was barely drinking. The problem I found out was she was getting a bad stomach ache from that crap they served at LC.
We left around 12 and never made it to LP or dinner I was starved and told her I needed to stop for some shrimp and queso tacos at La Gloria corner. As far as an El Grito celebration the bars were about as crowded as a weekend night with a few cars driving around with flags hanging out. Not much of a party, but maybe the rain put a damper on things. Meanwhile while I ate she chose to stand against the wall lined up with the SG's to avoid the rain dripping from the roof of the food cart. Even though she is old enough to be most of those SG's moms, it did get kind of funny when a guy stopped to try to take her to the room. After he left I went into a rant using my broken Spanish to ask what the problem was and how come she didn't close the deal and now how am I going to pay for my tacos, which left the taco guy and the SG next to her cracking up.
So then it was back to the room where she spent the night throwing up. The next day I decided to head back to the zona solo. Checked my backpack at HK and spent most of the day touring bars and waiting for the parlay cards to come out. Made my bets and grabbed a cab to the border hoping there would not be much a line. Man it was great walked right through only a few people waiting. I cleared customs and was walking by the Xray machine when it hit me. WHAT AN IDIOT my backpack was still in HK. So I headed back to MX entered the new building and thought I would test whether I needed new paperwork. I held up my 7 day pass and she directed me to the Mexican only line and I walked right in she never even checked the date. A cab to the Zona grabbed my backpack and a new cab and I was back at the POE I thought for sure they would be questioning me about you just left MX 27 minutes ago, what's up with that. But no questions and no problems maybe they don't even pay attention to the info on there screen. It could have been much worse can you imagine waiting in the line for an hour or 2 and then having to go back and do it again. Or there was that guy who drove all the way from Vegas and didn't enter MX because he forgot his passport (hahaha).
Or there was that guy who drove all the way from Vegas and didn't enter MX because he forgot his passport (hahaha).Great report Hugo.
With the 7 day visa, maybe I was just lucky to use it twice in the same week.
But dammit, it is a hit or miss in the new building.
I did just what they wanted, I got the 180 day visa.
HorseTrader
09-18-15, 08:21
I'm working mornings in San Diego and have afternoons free. Sometimes these business trips last just a day and sometimes they last weeks. I'm pulling for about a week. Business trips can be so fun. Thursday was day 1.
Normally I get to ZN several times a year. That hasn't happened this year. A few of todays impression.
Pesos. I drove around San Ysidro a bit and found two places that advertised 16.40. The first I asked how many peso's for $400? Answer was 6,420; wrong! So I went to the next place and was told (and given) 6,560. Lesson is to ask amount before actually giving your heard earned US dollars. These two places were on San Ysidro at I-805. Places closer to the border were not as good. But the one on the right just after you exit Mexico was almost as good.
Visa. It cost 332 pesos ($20.25) and took 8 minutes to get and lasts 6 months; unlimited in and out. My passport book did get stamped. There are good people everywhere to make sure you know what to do. I'm told I can use this to go in and out of Mexico for 6 months. No more waiting. IMHO, anybody that coplains about this is just plain whiner.
Girl Prices. I went arriba with three girls. One from Hong Kong asked $100 but accept 1000 pesos ($61). The second was from Adelita and she asked for $60 but accepted 700 pesos ($43). The third was from Tropical. She asked for $60 and she refused my counter of $50. Then she accepted my counter of 800 pesos ($49). With an exchange of 16 or 17, the girls can't do the math in their heads. It was easier for them when the excahnge was about 12.
Getting Change. I really got pissed off at a waiter at Tropical. I gave him 500 pesos for 170 pesos of drinks and he never brought the change to me. I eventually had to chase down El Jeffe to make things right and get a very humble appology. No tip for this guy.
Hotels. I had rooms at Cascadas, Coahuila, and Rizo de Oro. The first two were fine, but the Rizo de Oro hotel had a broken door lock, no A/C, only one towel, and a stopped up toilet with a floating condom .
Revolution: Walked up Revolution to the recently mentioned leather shop. Nice stuff. Had dinner at Caesers; decent. Still needed to have a couple street tacos. Mmmmmm.
Hong Kong Floor Plan. I saw the new Hong Kong floor plan a few months ago, but didn't think too much about it. Now I like the better seating on the south end of the main floor. Much better flow everywhere.
Shaving Cream Show. It seems they used to last about 20 minutes and were repeated only evey 2 or 3 hours. Now they are almost non-stop. Customers are losing interest. These girls aren't getting the tips they used to get.
Girl Quality - Same as my last visit. Some hotties and some notties. Best looking girl (IMHO) was Mia from AB. That will be me you see taking her arriba tomorrow.
Where is the best place to exchange pesos? Is the baja-mex insurance place good for exchanging currency.
Baja Mex sometimes has the best rates and is convenient if you park near there. Just check that the houses don't have commission.
Where is the best place to exchange pesos? Is the baja-mex insurance place good for exchanging currency.
Is this in Tijuana?
http://vidmax.com/video/120988-Two-Mexican-hookers-beat-the-f-ck-out-of-this-man-who-refused-to-payCrazy video. That guy is surely a sucker. Could get beaten up by a 10 year old.
I had to get a passport replaced and was told that they will let you cross into Mexico so long you have receipt showing that you applied for a passport along with a Drivers license and birth certificate. Can someone confirm this. ?
I can't confirm it but since you're local ie not coming from LA etc, you have nothng to lose-other than your time-by trying at the San Ysidro pedestrian crossing. Alternatively you can cross at Otay Mesa where the passport requirement is not being enforced.
I had to get a passport replaced and was told that they will let you cross into Mexico so long you have receipt showing that you applied for a passport along with a Drivers license and birth certificate. Can someone confirm this. ?
At this point they are only enforcing the rule for the pedestrian crossing. Hopefully they were correct at the passport office. I do not like driving in Mexico. They drive to crazy for myself.
I can't confirm it but since you're local ie not coming from LA etc, you have nothng to lose-other than your time-by trying at the San Ysidro pedestrian crossing. Alternatively you can cross at Otay Mesa where the passport requirement is not being enforced.
The Mexican Border is really loose-goose with their rules right now. It's really trial and error at this time. Therefore, even if one of us confirms what the rules are, it my change by the time they experiment applying the rules to your particular situation.
Anyways the combination of the new passport rule and the prior El Grito celebration this recent Tuesday really slowed business in the Zona this weekend (at least on Friday) where the girls were openly complaining of the lack of business, and several businesses and restaurants in our beloved Zona were closed on Friday.
The Tall Man
09-21-15, 17:26
Spent this past Thursday afternoon through Saturday afternoon again in the Zona. I must confess that this visit was the first since I returned from a few week stay in Havana, Cuba last month.
Like usual I stayed on the 6th floor hotel above HK, brought a few girls back to my room, drank too much both nights till early morning, had a decent fun time, met some buddies, watch some football, smoked a few cigars, walked Revolution for old times sake and enjoyed great street tacos.
Nothing more but nothing less. Then on my drive back came my epiphany. Tijuana is NOT and should NOT be viewed as a mongering destination, it is what it is and that is simply a few clubs and bars where you can watch some girls, watch some football, drink some beer, enjoy a few hours of relaxation and maybe should you find a suitable girl go and fuck with little expectation of any GFE BS that many of us mongers seek.
Lets face it, the majority of us go to HK, AB and other clubs because we can get there within a few hours drive from San Diego or LA. The decent rooms are expensive by normal standards at $70. Night on weekends at Casadas, the girl drinks are expensive at $8. Each, the cost of girls at between $70. To $100. Is on par with girls you find on Back Page in LOS Angeles for example. Then not to mention the travel and border crossing hassles and time wasted, the police corruption and shake-downs, the risks for safety, the hassles and constant never ending request for tips and more girl drinks, blah, blah, blah.
Then the quality and friendliness of the girls has indeed plummeted in the past 10 years, its ALL hardened pros only desperate to separate us from our greenbacks. Times have changed in the Zona and they will never return.
So go with little to no expectations, which I will return again, but knowing that Tijuana is NOT and never will be a mongering destination but rather just a place to stop in from time to time to get out of our rat race routine here in LA or SD.
Just IMHO after 18 years frequenting the Zona.
The Tall Man.
Exoticspirit
09-21-15, 18:12
Spent this past Thursday afternoon through Saturday afternoon again in the Zona. I must confess that this visit was the first since I returned from a few week stay in Havana, Cuba last month.
Like usual I stayed on the 6th floor hotel above HK, brought a few girls back to my room, drank too much both nights till early morning, had a decent fun time, met some buddies, watch some football, smoked a few cigars, walked Revolution for old times sake and enjoyed great street tacos.
Nothing more but nothing less. Then on my drive back came my epiphany. Tijuana is NOT and should NOT be viewed as a mongering destination, it is what it is and that is simply a few clubs and bars where you can watch some girls, watch some football, drink some beer, enjoy a few hours of relaxation and maybe should you find a suitable girl go and fuck with little expectation of any GFE BS that many of us mongers seek.
Lets face it, the majority of us go to HK, AB and other clubs because we can get there within a few hours drive from San Diego or LA. The decent rooms are expensive by normal standards at $70. Night on weekends at Casadas, the girl drinks are expensive at $8. Each, the cost of girls at between $70. To $100. Is on par with girls you find on Back Page in LOS Angeles for example. Then not to mention the travel and border crossing hassles and time wasted, the police corruption and shake-downs, the risks for safety, the hassles and constant never ending request for tips and more girl drinks, blah, blah, blah.
Then the quality and friendliness of the girls has indeed plummeted in the past 10 years, its ALL hardened pros only desperate to separate us from our greenbacks. Times have changed in the Zona and they will never return.
So go with little to no expectations, which I will return again, but knowing that Tijuana is NOT and never will be a mongering destination but rather just a place to stop in from time to time to get out of our rat race routine here in LA or SD.
Just IMHO after 18 years frequenting the Zona.
The Tall Man.I'm actually kind of jealous that you guys in southern CA have access to Tijuana whenever you want. But I do agree, it is certainly not a mongering destination for anyone else who must travel from elsewhere. I for one do not plan to return unless I find myself in southern CA and specifically San Diego. If I am flying through LA, I don't think I'll even bother to come from there.
But if I lived in the area, that would be a different story.
HorseTrader
09-21-15, 18:16
So, here I am in Southern California with plans to work in the morning and play in the afternoons and evenings. Day 1 was reported a few posts ago. There isn't much to say for days 2, 3, and 4.
Day 2 (Friday):
Crossed in the middle afternoon. No problems because the 6-month visa purchased the prior day got me through the Mexicn side of the building without problem. 50 peso yellow cab to the Arch and a walk down the hill to Disney Land. One thing I did learn is the first two cabs refused my offer of 50 pesos to Hong Kong but the 3rd cab accepted my offer of 50 pesos to the Arch. So be it.
Found one of my old favorites in Hong Kong named Sorray. Spinner with long straight jet black hair. I've never seen her approach a man, you have to approach her. Anyway, good performer in the room and well worth the 900 pesos paid.
Decided to have lunch at a nice resturant, so I walked up to my favorite, Caesers. Had the lamb chops, which were excellent.
Headed back to ZN and walked around a good bit and had drinks in HK, AB, LC, and BT (1 beer plus 3 bottles of water). My favorite girl from AB was not seen so I had to pick another. Decided on Elizabeth, who was a real ball of fire in the bar but a dead fish in the room. So much for learning about her via the fiche drink. Will not repeat. There seem to be multiple Elizabeths every where I travel, this one was probably 5'3", 130 pounds with huge enhanced tits.
Started to feel some stomach pains, so headed back to my US hotel.
Day 3 (Saturday): Did my morning work. Feeling the residual stomach problems from day 2. Spent more time on the toilet than I care to admit. Not in condition to cross the border.
Day 4 (Sunday): Just the same as Day 3. Took a ton of immodium with little affect. I find it hard to believe that a meal from Ceasars could cause so much problems. Could have been from another source.
ScatManDoo
09-21-15, 20:00
Day 1.
Hotels. I had rooms at Cascadas, Coahuila, and Rizo de Oro. The first two were fine, but the Rizo de Oro hotel had a broken door lock, no A/C, only one towel, and a stopped up toilet with a floating condom .
Day 2 Started to feel some stomach pains, so headed back to my US hotel.
Day 3 (Saturday): Did my morning work. Feeling the residual stomach problems from day 2. Spent more time on the toilet than I care to admit. Not in condition to cross the border.
Day 4 (Sunday): Just the same as Day 3. Took a ton of immodium with little affect. I find it hard to believe that a meal from Ceasars could cause so much problems. Could have been from another source.I just got to ask you H-Trader:
How many different hotel bathrooms in different hotels are you renting and fouling during this single trip?
I agree with Tall Man. La Zona can and really should up its game. Mexican's usually have an attitude of take it or leave it. Since there are not many other options I guess they feel they can take this approach. With that being said, if I was in the Hoe business I would train these girls a lot better cater to a more upscale clientele. I find it is the quality not the quantity is what mongers seek. I would rather have 10 solid women in my stable than 50 mediocre broads. Knowing this going in my approach is just to sink my pole into a wet whole. I don't expect to have intellectual conversation about geopolitics or post modern art. As long as you calibrate your expectations, there are plenty of tight wholes to pummel for a bargain.
Spent this past Thursday afternoon through Saturday afternoon again in the Zona. I must confess that this visit was the first since I returned from a few week stay in Havana, Cuba last month.
Like usual I stayed on the 6th floor hotel above HK, brought a few girls back to my room, drank too much both nights till early morning, had a decent fun time, met some buddies, watch some football, smoked a few cigars, walked Revolution for old times sake and enjoyed great street tacos.
Nothing more but nothing less. Then on my drive back came my epiphany. Tijuana is NOT and should NOT be viewed as a mongering destination, it is what it is and that is simply a few clubs and bars where you can watch some girls, watch some football, drink some beer, enjoy a few hours of relaxation and maybe should you find a suitable girl go and fuck with little expectation of any GFE BS that many of us mongers seek.
Lets face it, the majority of us go to HK, AB and other clubs because we can get there within a few hours drive from San Diego or LA. The decent rooms are expensive by normal standards at $70. Night on weekends at Casadas, the girl drinks are expensive at $8. Each, the cost of girls at between $70. To $100. Is on par with girls you find on Back Page in LOS Angeles for example. Then not to mention the travel and border crossing hassles and time wasted, the police corruption and shake-downs, the risks for safety, the hassles and constant never ending request for tips and more girl drinks, blah, blah, blah.
Then the quality and friendliness of the girls has indeed plummeted in the past 10 years, its ALL hardened pros only desperate to separate us from our greenbacks. Times have changed in the Zona and they will never return.
So go with little to no expectations, which I will return again, but knowing that Tijuana is NOT and never will be a mongering destination but rather just a place to stop in from time to time to get out of our rat race routine here in LA or SD.
Just IMHO after 18 years frequenting the Zona.
The Tall Man.TallMan. You are correct! I used to go to Adelita back in the early 90's thru whenever HK got popular and I still go back to Adelita. Its sad to say but this place aint what it used to be. NOW with the increased PIA border check going into MX they can count me as an infrequent guest looking to have a beer rather than a guy looking to go every weekend. I also agree that the ladies are NOT what they used to be. Everything has changed for the worse. I just had a shake down in Feb and haven't been back there. I have gone to many other parts of the world so life does exist outside of the zona.
Peace brothers and be safe!
H1.
LifeIsABeach
09-22-15, 03:41
Started to feel some stomach pains, so headed back to my US hotel. Day 3 (Saturday): Did my morning work. Feeling the residual stomach problems from day 2. Spent more time on the toilet than I care to admit. Not in condition to cross the border. Day 4 (Sunday): Just the same as Day 3. Took a ton of immodium with little affect. I find it hard to believe that a meal from Ceasars could cause so much problems.I travel abroad for sight seeing and mongering. I also tend to eat street food and in the early days, I had an all-world-stomach that I could eat anything without any issues. It all changed a few years back in Philippines near the end of trip that no amount of immodium would help. I started eating very little, got other stuff from Pharmacies and nothing world. I just hoped on my flight back that I did not have too many issues and ate nothing. Upon seeing My doctor, he prescribed CIPRO and it did not take long for it to take charge and stop the crap and recalibrate the body. Ever since then, I bought a 100 bottle of CIPRO from Mexico and always carry it with on travels abroad and also to Tijuana with me incase I have any issues. This stuff is strong. Get 500 MG and two tablets will set you free!
LifeIsABeach
09-22-15, 04:04
Tijuana is NOT and should NOT be viewed as a mongering destination, it is what it is and that is simply a few clubs and bars where you can watch some girls, watch some football, drink some beer, enjoy a few hours of relaxation and maybe should you find a suitable girl go and fuck with little expectation of any GFE BS that many of us mongers seek. Tijuana is NOT and never will be a mongering destination but rather just a place to stop in from time to time to get out of our rat race routine here in LA or SD. The Tall Man.I have always considered Tijuana as a refueling pit spot for me and change oil between my trips abroad to SEA, Africa, Middle East, Latin Americas (other than Tijuana) and Europe. After 15 years, I have decided that it is not really worth the long drive I have to put up with from NCAL (500 miles each way). Plus when I add the total costs of fuel, eating out, women, hotels, massages and other money I give to strippers, if I add the costs for two trips, I can fly to an exotic place and have some fun time with some beautiful women over a long weekend. The act with the WGs in Tijuana has not changed much and there is nothing new for me. The new unknown MX entry policy did it for me. Chances of me getting another stamp is remote. It is different for guys who live closer and the drive is no big deal. I am tired now the first day and never used to be like that even 5 years ago. Hard to get a woody the first and a day wasted. Mongering is fun and will continue to do it. Just booked my month long trip to Philippines and Indonesia (Bali) in November.
I only visit the Zona for women. Personally I do not like the area much. If there was still good street action in SD then I would not bother with Tijuana. Years ago I used to make a occasional cruise up to LA / OC. The day action especially for WSW's is essentially nil. So it's not worth wasting gas. It would be nice to live in Europe where WSW's were more plentiful.
I'm actually kind of jealous that you guys in southern CA have access to Tijuana whenever you want. But I do agree, it is certainly not a mongering destination for anyone else who must travel from elsewhere. I for one do not plan to return unless I find myself in southern CA and specifically San Diego. If I am flying through LA, I don't think I'll even bother to come from there.
But if I lived in the area, that would be a different story.
HorseTrader
09-22-15, 08:42
I just got to ask you H-Trader:
How many different hotel bathrooms in different hotels are you renting and fouling during this single trip?Haha. Lucky for all mongers, I didn't foul any in Tijuana. Now, my San Diego hotel room is a different story. I'm expecting to receive a letter from Marriott requesting that I never return.
HorseTrader
09-22-15, 08:50
.....I also tend to eat street food and in the early days, I had an all-world-stomach that I could eat anything without any issues. It all changed a few years back in Philippines near the end of trip that no amount of immodium would help.... This getting old really sucks. Lucky we have the little blue pill.
HorseTrader
09-22-15, 19:04
No problems crossing in either direction, though I had to ask 3 taxi drivers before I could find one that accepted 50 pesos to the arch. The standard asking price is $5. I don't know why I'm such a cheap SOB with those guys but quite generous with bar girl tips. I always give a tip in addition to the agreed price.
Being a Monday I was not surprised to see fewer girls. What did surprise me was the poor quality almost everywhere. Somehow, Hong Kong quality was fine and I found 3 different girls for trips upstairs. All were good performers, though I was unable to finish with the last one. That was my fault, she was great.
Quality of street girls, AB girls, BT girls, and LC girls was as low as I've ever seen. That's not to say there weren't exceptions. Like Mia at AB, who I think is as sexy as they get. And like SG Ximena who was at her post for the 9 hours I was there.
Girls were asking $80 or $100 but all accepted my 1000 peso counter offer.
I left ZN at about 11:30 pm and was surprised at how few customers were there. The mix at Hong Kong appeared to be about equal portions of girls, waiters, and customers.
I've never seen more American men bring their wives, all at Hong Kong. Some were in groups of couples. One couple sat right next to me and participated in everything from tequila poured down their throats to fully creamed girls hugging both the husband and wife and his and her lap dances. This woman sucked more nipples than I've ever seen. Other women seemed disgusted at the whole environment.
Took the Hong Kong limo back to the border. How much are others tipping the limo driver? I typically tip 40 pesos, so it really saves me almost no money. I'm the only passenger nearly every trip.
Captain Solo
09-22-15, 19:48
Ya. The putas reserve Monday to go to church to confess their sins. Hehe.
The 1000 peso or about $65 are very good deals for the best-looking young chicas in HK. Some will do mental calculations and insist on $80.
I pity the guys who married ugly, stupid butches who love pussies and are disgusted having sex with men. The butches are a complete the waste of money, time and erections. They should divorce them and find some real passionate girls.
I usually tip the HK limousine driver $1 or 20 pesos for each passenger. I would tip the 2 floor managers, Augustino and Edmundo, 50 pesos each. They speak English and are good people to know in La Zona. They work for very little money so they do appreciate your generosity.
Tijuana can be a very sexy and passionate mongers' heaven if you know a few people, bring a few friends to party with, and live close enough to party every week.
Quality of street girls, AB girls, BT girls, and LC girls was as low as I've ever seen. That's not to say there weren't exceptions. Like Mia at AB, who I think is as sexy as they get. And like SG Ximena who was at her post for the 9 hours I was there.
Girls were asking $80 or $100 but all accepted my 1000 peso counter offer.
I left ZN at about 11:30 pm and was surprised at how few customers were there. The mix at Hong Kong appeared to be about equal portions of girls, waiters, and customers.
I've never seen more American men bring their wives, all at Hong Kong. Some were in groups of couples. One couple sat right next to me and participated in everything from tequila poured down their throats to fully creamed girls hugging both the husband and wife and his and her lap dances..
I usually bring 20 $1 bills just for tipping. So now and then everyone generally gets a piece. This is from the door security to waiters to bathroom guy (if I use their hair mouse or cologne) in addition to the girls. I usually give the Limo guy $1 to a 20 pesos bill also. The only one that I don't tip are the pesky teenagers yapping for a tip outside of HK. One of the little fuckers were actually on the Cascadas stairs asking for tips. They are very aggressive and one even put his hands on me a week ago. And I almost chopped at his throat out of pure reaction. I even tip the ladies outside of Cascadas selling gum.
But as a rule, I never tip people asking for a tip. On the streets, I tell them directly that I never tip people I don't know and that I don't know them. I find that if one tips those people, they leech on to you forever expecting a handout all the time.
Captain Solo
09-23-15, 10:00
I only give propinas to the good-looking, sweet smiling young girls in HK, not the old, lumpy putas who walk around hitting up everyone for tips. I just say " No mas dinero" and they won't come back next time. If you tip the ugly ones, they will come back and hound you again and again. Of course HK meseros should get $1 of reach drink they bring or about 20% of the tab. If you order your drinks at the bar, you don't have to tip the bar tenders, as they are not on the propina plan and never thank you for your tips.
Most Mexicans don't tip the tacos workers, but a few putas tip them as much as 50%, like they are some high-class ladies.
I hate to be pestered by these persistent kids for tips when I eat my tacos at the Ninos corner, or by this filthy and whiny woman Yolanda. If you give them 1 tip, they will hound you again every time. You should not hit them and get into trouble with policia. Just shoo them away or ignore them. If they continue to hassle you, just say "policias" and they will back off, and won't come back. Some adults make their children beg for money to spend on tequilas and drugs.
But last time at the tacos stand, a young woman was selling gums and carrying her girl toddler. The little girl was learning to walk with her tiny feet. Her 3 YO sister sometimes came back to embrace and carry the baby. I was touched by the love the 2 little girls had for each other so I gave them some change.
Sometimes I would request my favorite Spanish songs and give the singing mariachis $1. Last weekend there was a percussion band at the tacos corner, with 7 or 8 players, complete with braided hair and huge African bongos. They were knocking out a lot of noise and I gave them $1 into the hat. I usually support the arts, both musicians and the young sex artists.
I usually bring 20 $1 bills just for tipping. So now and then everyone generally gets a piece. This is from the door security to waiters to bathroom guy (if I use their hair mouse or cologne) in addition to the girls. I usually give the Limo guy $1 to a 20 pesos bill also. The only one that I don't tip are the pesky teenagers yapping for a tip outside of HK. One of the little fuckers were actually on the Cascadas stairs asking for tips. They are very aggressive and one even put his hands on me a week ago. And I almost chopped at his throat out of pure reaction. I even tip the ladies outside of Cascadas selling gum.
But as a rule, I never tip people asking for a tip. On the streets, I tell them directly that I never tip people I don't know and that I don't know them. I find that if one tips those people, they leech on to you forever expecting a handout all the time.
About a year ago I gave a lunatic in the alley a tip when he asked for it. He has a beard, about 5'10", is scruffy homeless looking but has a memory like an elephant. So now whenever he sees me he follows me and continuously ask for a tip. Several times I had to go into a club just to ditch this lunatic because he gets aggressive when I ignored him. Avoid at all cost.
Another one that I avoid is likely a deportee who acts like he's selling gum outside the Valentina Bar. In the evenings. But he gives people a hard time if they don't want to buy gum. He will walk right up to people and aggressively ask "why" they're not buying. WTF? He has a beard, is well fed and speaks perfect English. Avoid also.
There are some people asking for a handout when in fact they're expecting a handout and sees us as their ATM machine.
LifeIsABeach
09-25-15, 07:08
I usually bring 20 $1 bills just for tipping. So now and then everyone generally gets a piece. This is from the door security to waiters to bathroom guy .I am a bit more generous. I bring $50.00 / day in one dollar bills, that is $100.00 over two days. Those bills are mostly for the strippers at the bars and I tend to tip every stripper that does her job well. Some of those dollar bills would also go for the tacos. The tips for beer are from my $5. 00 bills and I never see the change or the waiter again! Decent quality food during the day is paid by the $20 bills and the $5. 00 bills. Massages chicas also get paid more than $5.00 for tips. Sex Chicas always get $5. 00 or more tips. To me it's just pieces of paper and not to worry about nickel and diming as I like to enjoy my trips.
Crazy video. That guy is surely a sucker. Could get beaten up by a 10 year old.They were speaking Portuguese most likely Brazil.
I am a bit more generous. I bring $50.00 / day in one dollar bills, that is $100.00 over two days. Those bills are mostly for the strippers at the bars and I tend to tip every stripper that does her job well. Some of those dollar bills would also go for the tacos. The tips for beer are from my $5. 00 bills and I never see the change or the waiter again! Decent quality food during the day is paid by the $20 bills and the $5. 00 bills. Massages chicas also get paid more than $5.00 for tips. Sex Chicas always get $5. 00 or more tips. To me it's just pieces of paper and not to worry about nickel and diming as I like to enjoy my trips.You're a lot more generous than I.
I tend to tip the girls who dance more than others because they work their asses off on stage while the other girls stare at the sky. I also avoid tipping girls who walk around asking for tips. And I am kind of cheap with waiters during fichas because I find that they tend to rush my ficha drinks with the girls when I tip well. But I make it up to them afterwards and tip in full when I'm finish with a girl. I also explain why and they understand. One waiter even bought me a beer in the Valentina Bar when I ran into him.
How much do you tip the massage girls (presumably in Mermaids). I never really understood how the girls are compensated there.
Baxter Slade
09-25-15, 17:55
Before I tell my story I will set the stage. First of all I have been going down to Tijuana for close to 40 years, and I have only had one negative experience with the police That was probably about 20 years ago on the bridge between the border and centro. I was searched and while not positive I think I had a little money stolen, Since then I have learned to keep my eyes focused ahead of me and try to avoid any interaction by ducking in bars or crossing streets.
So on this wed. My wingman was going to pick me up late afternoon and the plan was to arrive in Tijuana around 6 or 7 pm Instead he oversleeps after working the night shift and we don't make it down until after 12 am I'm happy to report when entering the new building at that hour the immigration people seem tired and are not even interested in having you fill out any paperwork and just waved us through.
Yes we got a late start but in order to get our half price room we now are staring at 2 buckets of beer. So in order to move this thing along its now after 7 in the morning we are both intoxicated and sitting in La Gloria Bar he is in love with one of those diamond in the roughs and I'm getting restless. I keep getting up and walking outside every now and then when it looks like I'm going to be put on the spot to buy a drink for his girls friend. On one of these occasions I'm outside a few feet from the doorway when a cop car comes around the corner he stops I avoid eye contact and turn to walk back into the bar. He yells something like "Hey" and I hope he is not talking to me and I ignore him. Now I'm thinking if he is coming for me I can either quick duck out the other door and disappear into AB. But instead I just start to head over to where my amigo is. Before I know it the cop comes up behind me and aggressively grabs me with his arm wrapped around my neck. And leads me outside back to his car.
By the time we get to the car I already start to use the info I have learned from reading these boards. My large bills which consisted of about 10 $5's and my phone were in my hand and the 15 or so $1's I left in my other pocket. Any $10's and 20's were tucked away in a secret pocket. The cops attention seems to be totally focused on the money in my hand I think he is asking me why I'm holding my money out and I try telling him I hear the police will steal from you. So now he seems to get very insulted, the next thing I know him and his partner are taking out there wallets and showing me all the money they have and say they have plenty of money and they don't need my money. I can't remember exactly how he got control of my little pile of 5's I think he told me to put the stuff in my hand on the hood of his car, he then did a very brief search of my pockets. I was always curious to see what would happen if I were to be stopped and the cops came across my sinductura card which I keep with my ID but I don't think he ever even looked at my ID. So after the search all of a sudden this cop turns into Robin Hood he now walks over to the sidewalk and starts passing out my $5 dollar bills to the few people who are milling around. He then gives me about 5 $5's back and tells me I'm free to go. I entered the unit # on his car into my phone and headed back to the bar.
So now comes the what would you do part, seeing as how I was somewhat intoxicated the best plan probably would have been to go with the you have been doing this for many years and it was finally YOUR TURN, and you did not lose to much money and you could be carted off to jail for being drunk in public so you came out of this thing ok let it die. I soon realize my 1's are no longer in my pocket. But for a total I'm probably out 35 or 45 dollars. But instead the I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to stand for this crap side takes over. I now step outside again pull out my phone and try dialing the Sinducturia number and the tourist assistance number and I wasn't doing something right because nothing was going through. I then try the pay phone on the corner and that doesn't work. Still determined I go inside and ask the young mesero who has been taking care of us if I can borrow his phone he agrees and I dial the Sinductura number and there is no answer. I then say fuck it and dial 66 the emergency number I reach an English speaking operator and proceed to tell her I have been robbed by the police. She says she will send an officer right over. I say I don't want an officer they are all corrupt I want sinductura. She says there not open now but to wait outside and someone will be there. While I'm talking to her the police that robbed me come driving by. I get all exited and start telling her the bandits are driving right in front of me as we speak. She asks there unit # and says to wait.
About 5 minutes go by and soon 4 or 5 cops show up one who has some decorations on his shoulders, I assume he is in charge has me tell him my story and he does speak some English. He gives me a hug and tells me to relax. He then walks over to the corner about 10 ft away where the Robin Hood is standing and is talking to him. Another cop comes over to me and also hugs me and while he is asking me how much money was taken he pulls out a $100 dollar bill and asks me if I want it. WTF is going on, this is getting strange. I think its some kind of trick and I tell him no, I only lost around $40 . Next the leader comes back and Robin Hood disappears. He assures me everything will be fine and to give him a moment. About 5 minutes later Robin Hood comes back and hands me a big wad of money consisting of 5's and 1's. He then hands me my money shakes my hand and a hug.
So now this thing is pretty much wrapped up however the leader wants me to call back dispatch and basically say there is no problem and I was mistaken. I tell him my phone doesn't work in MX. So he wants to know what phone I called from. I don't want to get the mesero in any kind of trouble so I say I called from my amigos phone and he is gone. They then have me go to the pay phone and that does not work and finally they just say good bye.
Shit Hugo I'm sorry to hear about that. As far as I know you are a seasoned vet and it was not your fault. My theory is these guys are not cops. Most likely these guys are slipped in to protect the local drug rackets otherwise why would they want to keep it quiet. There us definitely some stuff going on that we don't know about. My guess is the CAF is getting muscled out and trying to keep tabs on anybody in the Zona who looks out of place. Seems as though the powers that be want to slow down business in the Zona by robbing Americans. There is not much we can do except keep our heads on a swivel. My suggestion would be get a room a few bottles and invite the girls up to party. That way you minimize your exposure to the street. You can't trust anybody down there. They all have spotters and snitches. Stay safe guys.
Before I tell my story I will set the stage. First of all I have been going down to Tijuana for close to 40 years, and I have only had one negative experience with the police That was probably about 20 years ago on the bridge between the border and centro. I was searched and while not positive I think I had a little money stolen, Since then I have learned to keep my eyes focused ahead of me and try to avoid any interaction by ducking in bars or crossing streets.
So on this wed. My wingman was going to pick me up late afternoon and the plan was to arrive in Tijuana around 6 or 7 pm Instead he oversleeps after working the night shift and we don't make it down until after 12 am I'm happy to report when entering the new building at that hour the immigration people seem tired and are not even interested in having you fill out any paperwork and just waved us through.
Yes we got a late start but in order to get our half price room we now are staring at 2 buckets of beer. So in order to move this thing along its now after 7 in the morning we are both intoxicated and sitting in La Gloria Bar he is in love with one of those diamond in the roughs and I'm getting restless. I keep getting up and walking outside every now and then when it looks like I'm going to be put on the spot to buy a drink for his girls friend. On one of these occasions I'm outside a few feet from the doorway when a cop car comes around the corner he stops I avoid eye contact and turn to walk back into the bar. He yells something like "Hey" and I hope he is not talking to me and I ignore him. Now I'm thinking if he is coming for me I can either quick duck out the other door and disappear into AB. But instead I just start to head over to where my amigo is. Before I know it the cop comes up behind me and aggressively grabs me with his arm wrapped around my neck. And leads me outside back to his car...You got even. You lost $50. But you got back $100. To remain employed, the asshole cop will likely pay $200 to the police captain who had to leave his important job to remedy the situation. So you took about 2 weeks pay from the asshole cop for screwing with you and playing Robin Hood. He probably lost his temper when you mentioned that the police like to take money. But temper isn't an excuse for treating tourists badly.
This is why I always carry the number and address of Internal Affairs in my passport and cash. Filling a complaint does work in Mexico. Just without all the red tape that we are so accustomed to in the states.
KevinMorison
09-25-15, 19:12
Glad they did not ruff you up. Sounds like a very strange incident and maybe you need to watch your back now in the zona? Many will crap on anyone giving warnings about how the zona is not the same as it was a year ago. Yet when Veteran Mongers like yourself have these problems, I would hate to see how the noobs are getting the shitty end of what is going on. Just like with the strange reports of officials going through HDS asking to check passports and visas. Glad you came out of it alright, very strange how the other cops are coughing up cash. I should of reported the fuckers that robbed me of 400 p, could of made a profit and say the fuckers took me for way much more.
Stay safe,
KM
HorseTrader
09-25-15, 20:15
I've now exceeded a week of working in the morning and playing in the afternoon and evening. It's getting exhausting but I'll be working here a few more days so I will continiue to make PM trips to ZN.
Street Girls versus Bar Girls: Various mongers have written that street girls perform just as well as the bar girls. For me, that simply isn't true. I've been with 1 or 2 bar girls per day plus 1 street girl. With the exception of one poor selection of a bar girl, every single one of the bar girls has performed better than the best street girl. I'm sure my lack of Spanish contributes to this.
Importance of the Bar Girl Drink: My only poor bar girl experience happened at AB. I was having a drink by myself when one of the Palomas suggested that we go upstairs. She looked great to me and I accepted for 900 pesos (she asked for $60). She turned out to be terrible. Absolutly the wrong personality for me. I would have realized the problem if I had only spent a few pesos and bought her the drink before going upstairs.
Bucket List: A couple years ago I set a bucket list item: have at least one session with a paradita from every major hooker street in ZN and one from every major hooker bar in ZN. I've completed the paradita goal, having now been with a girl from Articulo 123. I've almost given up on the bar girl item, I just don't think I will ever find one that fits my taste from Playboy.
How Much Money do the Girls Make? It must be very frustrating to these girls, somedays making tons of money and other days making almost nothing. On Tuesday I was eyeballing one of the HK girls, men seemed to constantly give her tips, buying drinks, and going upstairs. I tried to arrange a trip upstairs, but she was insisting on 1400 pesos and I was only offering 1000 pesos. On Thursday this same girl didn't seem to be making anything. I believe her shift started at 4 PM. At about 10 PM I arranged an arriba for 800 pesos. While in the room she said the only money she made that day was the tips I gave her and she showed me the three $1 bills that I gave her over the last few hours. I reminded her of Tuesday and she said she made over $400 that day.
Best Girls: Without a doubt, my best performers have come from Hong Kong. Second place is from Bar Tropical, though not nearly as pretty. If not for one very poor performer from AB, that bar would have been in 2nd place.
Border Crossing: On my first day I bought a 180 day visa, which cost about $20 plus 10 minutes. After that I just show my visa and my closed passport book. They send me to the Mexican side and I go through with zero problems. It simply hasn't been an issue. Returning to US has been equally easy with Sentri. There have been almost no lines, even for those with just a passport. I must admit that I didn't return to US on Saturday or Sunday evenings, so I may have missed the worst travel times.
Food: After 2 terrible days with stomach problems, I try to only eat cooked food in Tijuana. No subsequent problems. I do eat the street tacos which have raw topings, so far no problem with that. Some of the filthy little hole in the wall places on Articulo 123 serve fried chicken, beans, and shredded cabbage; I like that but won't touch the cabbage.
ScatManDoo
09-25-15, 20:30
.,.I avoid eye contact and turn to walk back into the bar. He yells something like "Hey" and I hope he is not talking to me and I ignore him. Now I'm thinking if he is coming for me I can either quick duck out the other door and disappear into AB. But instead I just start to head over to where my amigo is. Before I know it the cop comes up behind me and aggressively grabs me with his arm wrapped around my neck. And leads me outside back to his car.
By the time we get to the car I already start to use the info I have learned from reading these boards. My large bills which consisted of about 10 $5's and my phone were in my hand and the 15 or so $1's I left in my other pocket. Any $10's and 20's were tucked away in a secret pocket. The cops attention seems to be totally focused on the money in my hand I think he is asking me why I'm holding my money out and I try telling him I hear the police will steal from you. So now he seems to get very insulted, the next thing I know him and his partner are taking out there wallets and showing me all the money they have and say they have plenty of money and they don't need my money. I can't remember exactly how he got control of my little pile of 5's I think he told me to put the stuff in my hand on the hood of his car, he then did a very brief search of my pockets. I was always curious to see what would happen if I were to be stopped and the cops came across my sinductura card which I keep with my ID but I don't think he ever even looked at my ID. So after the search all of a sudden this cop turns into Robin Hood he now walks over to the sidewalk and starts passing out my $5 dollar bills to the few people who are milling around. He then gives me about 5 $5's back and tells me I'm free to go. I entered the unit # on his car into my phone and headed back to the bar.I'm glad that you're 'pushing back' resulted in getting your approx. $40 USD back.
I'm sure you would have gone though with that effort just for the policia hugs.
Captain Solo
09-26-15, 03:01
Wow. Hugo fought back and he won! He got all his money back, and he got hugs from the entire homo Tijuana policia division! Way to go!
Looks like there is enough oversight over Tijuana cops now that they are afraid of being charged with corruption. Calling the emergency number 666 will bring enough heat down on these stupid creeps. So keep using it!
Before I tell my story I will set the stage. First of all I have been going down to Tijuana for close to 40 years, and I have only had one negative experience with the police That was probably about 20 years ago on the bridge between the border and centro. I was searched and while not positive I think I
About 5 minutes go by and soon 4 or 5 cops show up one who has some decorations on his shoulders, I assume he is in charge has me tell him my story and he does speak some English. He gives me a hug and tells me to relax. He then walks over to the corner about 10 ft away where the Robin Hood is standing and is talking to him. Another cop comes over to me and also hugs me and while he is asking me how much money was taken he pulls out a $100 dollar bill and asks me if I want it. WTF is going on, this is getting strange. I think its some kind of trick and I tell him no, I only lost around $40 . Next the leader comes back and Robin Hood disappears. He assures me everything will be fine and to give him a moment. About 5 minutes later Robin Hood comes back and hands me a big wad of money consisting of 5's and 1's. He then hands me my money shakes my hand and a hug.
Baxter Slade
09-26-15, 03:14
I'm glad that you're 'pushing back' resulted in getting your approx. $40 USD back.
I'm sure you would have gone though with that effort just for the policia hugs.Hey Scatman while I was considering if I should pursue this thing that story you told a while ago about going down to the station and the Captain wanting you to ID a cop out of a room full of cops flashed in to my mind and I started thinking I would not be able to do that. I never really got a good look at him. And to me they pretty much look all the same. But thanks to the mesero who let me use his cell phone he also gave me the name of the cop and along with having the unit number that pretty much cinched it. It should be no problem locating the bad cop.
And by the way those hugs felt pretty good.
LifeIsABeach
09-26-15, 07:05
How much do you tip the massage girls (presumably in Mermaids). I never really understood how the girls are compensated there.I have not been to Mermaids for many years. Brings back memories. Now I go for legit massages on Saturday during the day and there are a couple of places you will see on Revolution. I have been to mermaids around the time they opened the place across from AD. I think I went there about 4 times. At that time, the girls were supposed to be naked. They started with their tap tap massage (not really a massage) and then playing with my genitals. One even kissed my dick to let me know what's available. After some massage, I would get off the table and put the girl on the table and start my fake massage, moving on to playing with their pussy, turning then around and doing a 69 to a point that the girls wanted sex badly. I have got away with paying only about $20.00 plus tip for sex as the girls were way aroused and wanted the dick inside them. Those were early days and now I am just not that spring chicken though some girls in Peru and Paraguay had me going multiple times.
So now this thing is pretty much wrapped up however the leader wants me to call back dispatch and basically say there is no problem and I was mistaken. I tell him my phone doesn't work in MX. So he wants to know what phone I called from. I don't want to get the mesero in any kind of trouble so I say I called from my amigos phone and he is gone. They then have me go to the pay phone and that does not work and finally they just say good bye.Dude, you did exactly the right thing. Congrats.
In hindsight, maybe trying to duck into the bar was a bad idea. You look guilty. When they call you it's best to respond as if you've done nothing wrong. Which you hadn't.
If public drunk was an arrestable offense, damn near half of Tijuana would be arrested on a Saturday night. 100% of the locals on Calle 6 ta are shitfaced by 2 am.
I'm so happy that you pushed back and that asshole got what he deserved. It seems that they are taking "tourist" complaints of corrupt cops seriously. They have a terrible reputation to live down, and it won't stop until everybody starts pushing back. A 200 peso mordida is one thing, but handing out your $5 bills, and roughing you up, and stealing your other stash, well, that's quite another.
The resolution of this story made me very happy.
LifeIsABeach
09-26-15, 07:18
Looks like there is enough oversight over Tijuana cops now that they are afraid of being charged with corruption. Calling the emergency number 666 will bring enough heat down on these stupid creeps. So keep using it!Not so. This was covered up very quickly such that there is no report and the fleecing of tourists will continue.
Can any one suggest a Pharmacy where I can get some real Viagra that's safe and will work with a prescription?
Hugo's post was well said. And here is the other part of the trip. Well, the plan was set-up for me to pick HugotheMan up at around 5 pm. I woke up at 4:45 pm. So, didn't make it exactly on time. Called Hugo and said I would do "90" all the way and pick him up. Hugo said, "Cool" - cya in 4 hours. We met at the usual spot and. Are you ready for this? No traffic, parked in the usual place, got "peso-ed" up after Hugo's 'wrong call' from 16.5 to 16.2 - LOL! Then, no passport check or nothing at the border. March through, bag check and into a cab. And be sure it's a white cab (yellow ain't the move so we heard). Off to the Zona. Straight to Cascadas, at the Front Desk and then wearing our casual shorts and related stuff, went to Las Chavelas to get the signature for the 20 beers (XX and Heineken) for the Cascadas 50% off deal. Back to the hotel. We check in. 50% off and had to make sure we had A / see in our rooms this time. So what happens? We get the same rooms on the 6th floor. My A / C doesn't work again. So, I move 1 room down and the A / see works. Hugo then examines the collection of fine scents and aromas for the "Que prefieres" game in the bars. Hugo knocks on my door and I tell him that I will take a quick shower and meet him at Chavelas in 20 minutes. 12:45 am now. 22 minutes later I walk into the bar and I notice the running little guyfrom the prior trip. The bar is fairly quiet, but I see Hugo already with a damsel in distress at the bar. The buckets are ready and the Clamato is iced.
The drinking begins and the broads are far from desirable. Somehow, and in some way we end up in a booth with two chicas who were marginal, but acceptable. Not our gig, but we danced the "March" which led to the train around the bar. Hugo even showed me the YouTube video to the song. Che Che Hue? No idea really. Hugo's lady is now on the booth passed out and possibly unconscious. Poor scene. Sad scene. I spend a few more dollars and dance to another tune or two. The girl is taken away and Hugo is idle. Hugo finds another. The 20 beers are gone along with 10 Fichas and maybe 8 more beers for myself. We move on to La Gloria Bar at 4:00 am. Hugo meets Jackie Brown. Well sorta. I meet something dark, thin and ready to rumble. We situate ourselves in the booth. But where was Hugo's girl's tooth? Hey, that rhymes. More beers. More fichas. Two Marlboro's, two Snicker's bars and a couple of dames ready to party. I dance to "Mana's" Hechicera (I think it was). Good times. Hugo is now making his way in and out of the bar. Hugo says we have to meet somebody at 7 am. That never happens. Hugo then says there is a "Fire" outside. And after the 3rd time, I check it out. Someone burned toast. Ok. Back to the bar. The mesero and I become friends. Hugo and I then make our way to the dance pole. Chicks digged it. Was it CCR playing "Who'll stop the Rain"? Yes, believe it was. Hugo then is gone. I make arrangements for what is looking like a strong and sure thing. 8 am at the balcony of Cascadas. Hugo (refer to posts and comments below) has a moment with the local authorities. Bad scene and a bizarre situation. Robin Hood was in the area as Hug's $5 bills were being spread like wildfire. I asked Hugo like 10 times if he wanted me to stay. Thus, I left as things were calming down.
Now to the balcony. 8:10 am and Jackie Brown along with my friend of the female persuasion sit down as I am downing an orange Gatorade. The waiter is there. Nice kid & harmless. Out of respect, I tell them that I am waiting for Hugo to return from the Land of the Lost. Hugo returns at 8:30 am. The waiter leaves and Hugo & I head up to the 6th floor. Next thing we know? Um, a party breaks out in my room as Hugo leaves and returns with a mesero holding a bucket of iced beers. How the heck? The next 10 minutes are even more bizarre, but we will no go there now. 12:00 am as I tell my female friend "adios" for the 3 hours (800 pesos) including the shower and the bed. I get the room for another night, then crash. Hugo says later that he was with Jackie for 4 hours and he realized he had 15 minutes before check-out. Hugo gets the room for another night. My alarm goes off and 4:15 pm and there is a knock on my door. Hugo says he will meet me in 30 minutes for the NFL game at Caliente across the street. I shower and make my way over. Wendy's replacement was out front from what I understand. Took the Redskins +4 and had a chance for a backdoor cover, but the 3 fumbles and 2 interceptions didn't help. We watched the second-half in the bar next door with a true gentlemen whom I met for the first time (a friend of Hugo's). Good times, but the bar only had 1 girl who would rate above a 4. We say goodbye to our friend and head to Guissepe's. Lasagne and Ciel and then back to the Zona. Now back to the room for a wash-up. 9 pm now. Got to head out of town by 11 at the latest. So, a final go at the ladies on the boulevards. We go down the alley, then make a left, the double-back and then we cross the street. We end up somewhere and Hugo makes his move with the famous 200 peso offer. This girl accepts. So, now I have to come through. The hottest thing in the area is right behind me. I ask if they are friends and she says that she and Hugo's girl are friends. What a shock. We head as a group to the 6th floor, and as we exit we realize that the colors are "off". It's orange around us. Floor 4 - wrong floor. Now we exit on the 6th and as we pass the water fountain, Hugo's girl show's us a little surprise. And I burst into hysterics. To the point where I really don't feel too sexy. That changes immediately as I head to my room with my female friend and leave over an hour later. Did not care about money at that time, so I would say I made the girl's night. She gives me her number and she is a definite contact on my next visit. I can't get into my safe. A big mess with the key situation, but eventually it works itself out. Moments later I meet Hugo and into a Yellow Cab we go. I am never in the mood to talk prices when leaving Tijuana, so just gave a $5 bill to the driver and he gladly took us to the Ligna. We wait less than 5 minutes, back to the parking spot and onto the 805 minutes later. Trip over. All in 24 hours. Simply fantastic yet again! (Minus Hugo's moment early AM on Thursday).
If you read my post from 2/14 titled "Tijuana's finest are at it again " you will see a similar thing happened to me. I too am a 25+ year veteran. I had others giving me shit about my report but its true. I tried warning others.
The shit is getting worse by the day and now its not worth it to me. Best of luck bro!
Before I tell my story I will set the stage. First of all I have been going down to Tijuana for close to 40 years, and I have only had one negative experience with the police That was probably about 20 years ago on the bridge between the border and centro. I was searched and while not positive I think I had a little money stolen, Since then I have learned to keep my eyes focused ahead of me and try to avoid any interaction by ducking in bars or crossing streets.
So on this wed. My wingman was going to pick me up late afternoon and the plan was to arrive in Tijuana around 6 or 7 pm Instead he oversleeps after working the night shift and we don't make it down until after 12 am I'm happy to report when entering the new building at that hour the immigration people seem tired and are not even interested in having you fill out any paperwork and just waved us through.
Yes we got a late start but in order to get our half price room we now are staring at 2 buckets of beer. So in order to move this thing along its now after 7 in the morning we are both intoxicated and sitting in La Gloria Bar he is in love with one of those diamond in the roughs and I'm getting restless. I keep getting up and walking outside every now and then when it looks like I'm going to be put on the spot to buy a drink for his girls friend. On one of these occasions I'm outside a few feet from the doorway when a cop car comes around the corner he stops I avoid eye contact and turn to walk back into the bar. He yells something like "Hey" and I hope he is not talking to me and I ignore him. Now I'm thinking if he is coming for me I can either quick duck out the other door and disappear into AB. But instead I just start to head over to where my amigo is. Before I know it the cop comes up behind me and aggressively grabs me with his arm wrapped around my neck. And leads me outside back to his car...
Baxter Slade
09-26-15, 16:24
Great report Cap 7 once again you have left me amazed with your ability to get shit faced and remember so many details.
I will say the incident I had with the police sobered me up real quick and I do remember just about every detail of that.
Baxter Slade
09-26-15, 19:18
Glad they did not ruff you up. Sounds like a very strange incident and maybe you need to watch your back now in the zona? Many will crap on anyone giving warnings about how the zona is not the same as it was a year ago. Yet when Veteran Mongers like yourself have these problems, I would hate to see how the noobs are getting the shitty end of what is going on. Just like with the strange reports of officials going through HDS asking to check passports and visas. Glad you came out of it alright, very strange how the other cops are coughing up cash. I should of reported the fuckers that robbed me of 400 p, could of made a profit and say the fuckers took me for way much more.
Stay safe,
KMYea Kevin this was indeed stranger than your normal shakedown. There were a few similarities to the experience you had. Targeting an obvious Gringo knowing he is not dealing with a criminal with his only intention to extract money, very aggressive behavior, the time of the day, and being in a car instead of foot patrol. It could have certainly been the same cops that got you.
Judging by his aggressive behavior and his wallet full of USA Currency this is a cop who has gotten way to comfortable robbing American tourists. R1 from another place believes this story should be taken straight to the police chief. I would disagree. I agree with you due to all the details I have shared it has in a way made me a marked man. While trying to take this thing further it could very well get this cop fired, but who needs enemies in the zona. I do now for a fact these dirty cops work hand in hand with some of the Zona rateros. And if this particular cop wanted to he could easily cough up 1 of his $100 dollar bills to buy me a knife in the back.
Between this board and the others out there we account for a good chunk of the money spent in the Zona Norte. The only solution I can think of is anytime any of us find ourselves in this type of situation take as many mental notes as possible and report it to 066 provided you have the evidence to back up your claim and also report it on here. Not that long ago there were reports on here and the other board about a heavy set female officer who was usually around calle primera stealing from us (GSR will know exactly who I'm talking about) in a situation like that I could see a group of us getting together and requesting a meeting with a chief and tell our stories about this out of control officer. STRENGTH IN NUMBERS.
Got to Tijuana at about 6:30 pm yeaterday (Friday).
Alley. Tried a new girl in the alley. Forgot her name because I was unable to pronounce it in the first place. She stands at the Eastern most hotel in the alley. From the neck up she looks like a pretty Hawaiian wahini. From the neck down she was 00% unadulterated Mexican. Beautiful breasts, beautiful butt, tiny waist. All natural as she liked to describe them. A real good looking woman. Personality of a lady. About 5'2" without heals. Cost 400 pesos. Worth it. I was supposed to leave the alley, but I've always wanted to spend some time with this one for the longest tim. Glad I did.
Tropical. Several thinner girls departed for HK, leaving the elderly thicker ones. Jenny Craig would make a bundle here. Tried to wait it out on one of the 3 non-fat girls. Gave up in the end because their guys were too scared to let them go, knowing what's left.
HK. Same old, same old.
Adelitas. Chatted with an alley favorite who now works here. She promised mucho besos for arriba. But there's just something weird about paying for more than double for the same girl one screwed just last week. So I declined. Ran into a sweetheart from HK. She said that she works at both locations when I asked whether she now works here. Odd reply. I didn't know they can do dual shifts. Bought a coulle of girls drinks. None kissed. Because a kiss is my measuring stick on how things will turn out upstairs, I booted them all. Feels nice to hold all the power for a change.
Dolce Gabana. My favorite girl from the bar across Valentina is now here, but she brought along her psycho girlfriend. This girl agreed to go dancing with me at Las Pulgas, but only if I being a buddy for her psycho girlfriend. I thought about you guys but after a conversation with the friend, I don't think that any of us could handle the mental issues.
Imperial Beach. Caught a nap in the car at 4 am. Woke at 8. Drove over to Imperial Beach for a nice breakfast on the beach before departure. Real nice small town atmosphere unlike Santa Monica. Next time I think I'll stop here, swim in the Ocean and snore on the beach to buff up my Mojo before hitting Tijuana. Really nice town. Highly recommended before and / or after Tijuana.
Captain Solo
09-26-15, 21:18
This incident is very serious and we need to put a stop to it. You need to finish this ratero cop off. If not he would still be robbing tourists, making enough money to hire thugs to pursue you.
You should put down on paper all details including date, time, place, name, car ID and all pertinent facts. Send a copy to Sindicuria, policia chief, Tijuana mayor, the tourist board, US Consulate and a few Tijuana and San Diego papers. That way the authorities cannot have any excuse not to act. When Sindicuria wants you to come in their office to file charges, you should do it. The stupid cop will be locked up for a few years and beat up in jail. The other cops will be deterred from robbing tourists.
You should take a low profile for a while, avoiding the Playboy pit. Go in and out La Zona discreetly, get what you want then leave quickly. After a while things will be forgotten. Unless you are stealing drugs territories worth a few millions a year, I don't think this stupid cop would get himself in bigger trouble harming anyone. You should report the incident in details so Tijuana policia can prosecute the dumb cabrone if he tries anything funny. If you don't report, he will rob and harm people again and get away with it.
KevinMorison
09-26-15, 23:43
Law Enforcement types always stick together no matter what Nation they come from. I laugh at those types that try to make us think they are just another guy in the monger crowd. Those types never have any trouble in Monger land, and seem to work with local pigs to nab Americans that are wanted, while they fuck hookers on the sidelines. Hypocrites if you ask me. I always wonder how any guy can walk in the gutter for decades without ever being burned once. And also find it strange that when they get done with some, they end up getting nabbed by authorities. Yet they can preach to use all about walking through rain drops without getting wet. Just saying. I would be careful for awhile and switch up the times you hit the zona for a tiny bit. Since that display of passing out money meant one thing "This Gringo Is Open For War" or at least that is how I feel about it. Never trust cops that get all hugging with you and try to get your to reverse you statements on the 66 line.
LifeIsABeach
09-27-15, 03:02
I have shared it has in a way made me a marked man. While trying to take this thing further it could very well get this cop fired, but who needs enemies in the zona. I do now for a fact these dirty cops work hand in hand with some of the Zona rateros. And if this particular cop wanted to he could easily cough up 1 of his $100 dollar bills to buy me a knife in the back.This is Mexico and not a country where the rule of law is respected. These cops make their money any which way they can and as someone else mentioned, these cops stick together as the money is shared among themselves. No, this cop is not going to be lose his job or be sent to prison. I have learnt to never stick my face into the 'law enforcements' of some countries as corruption is high and you never know what is going to happen next. In Mexico, they have killed well know people without second thoughts. Be happy nothing else happened to you at that time and just hang low and out of the picture hoping the cop forgets about you. You have to pick your battles and $40.00 loss I hope is not one of them. There are more important things in life, like chicas. Have a wonderful day.
Has there been much problems with mugging lately. Theread was some robberies taking place on Cohuilla earlier this year. This is where I was jumped this spring.
I would be careful for awhile and switch up the times you hit the zona for a tiny bit.My concern would be running into the same cops again. Switching times is a good idea IMO. It should be easy to do since those hours are not an ideal time to be out on the streets anyway. The beauty of Tijuana is you can do it all before the sun goes down! No need to wait past 12 am to get your freak on.
Hugo lay low for a while.
You did a great job. Now look at it as the cost of doing "business" in the 3rd world and move on.
ItsMeBeyatch
09-27-15, 05:07
This chica was in the Zona today 9/26. She was walking the alley with some tall bald guy. She looked like she was just passing through. Went into a couple of stores. Then I seen her walk up ninos.
Since I have seen some proof the story is real. And have heard a couple stories that confirm she is probably someone to avoid. The bar was Tropical the name she was using was Ninoshka. Chato is aware of the incident and may have banned her. But since these girls change bars and names all the time just look for the large grim reaper tattoo..
Thanks for the kind words Hugo & had a blast. Actually, even after 20 beers, felt pretty conscious of the happening's around me. Good times. And glad you are back safe!
Great report Cap 7 once again you have left me amazed with your ability to get shit faced and remember so many details.
I will say the incident I had with the police sobered me up real quick and I do remember just about every detail of that.
Hard to get the freak on when we don't even arrive until 12:00 am.
My concern would be running into the same cops again. Switching times is a good idea IMO. It should be easy to do since those hours are not an ideal time to be out on the streets anyway. The beauty of Tijuana is you can do it all before the sun goes down! No need to wait past 12 am to get your freak on.
Hugo lay low for a while.
You did a great job. Now look at it as the cost of doing "business" in the 3rd world and move on.
This incident is very serious and we need to put a stop to it. You need to finish this ratero cop off. If not he would still be robbing tourists, making enough money to hire thugs to pursue you.
You should put down on paper all details including date, time, place, name, car ID and all pertinent facts. Send a copy to Sindicuria, policia chief, Tijuana mayor, the tourist board, US Consulate and a few Tijuana and San Diego papers. That way the authorities cannot have any excuse not to act. When Sindicuria wants you to come in their office to file charges, you should do it. The stupid cop will be locked up for a few years and beat up in jail. The other cops will be deterred from robbing tourists.For those of us who are newer to these boards, could you post a recap of your preventive measures? In an earlier post there was mention of a Sindicatura card. Basically, once this happens, what are the proper follow up steps for us?
Graves
I have not been to Mermaids for many years. Brings back memories. Now I go for legit massages on Saturday during the day and there are a couple of places you will see on Revolution.I'm probably chasing a white whale here, but if it exists, someone on these boards must know.
I love therapeutic massage. Here at home I get them 1-2 times a week. I've also frequented massage parlors. Does the best of these distinctly different worlds exist in Tijuana? In the US one must settle for either:
- A great therapeutic massage and no release.
Or.
- A horrible massage with release.
I have yet to find both at the same time. Does it exist in Tijuana?
I'm probably chasing a white whale here, but if it exists, someone on these boards must know.
I love therapeutic massage. Here at home I get them 1-2 times a week. I've also frequented massage parlors. Does the best of these distinctly different worlds exist in Tijuana? In the US one must settle for either:
- A great therapeutic massage and no release.
Or.
- A horrible massage with release.
I have yet to find both at the same time. Does it exist in Tijuana?In a word, No.
I'm probably chasing a white whale here, but if it exists, someone on these boards must know.
I love therapeutic massage. Here at home I get them 1-2 times a week. I've also frequented massage parlors. Does the best of these distinctly different worlds exist in Tijuana? In the US one must settle for either:
- A great therapeutic massage and no release.
Or.
- A horrible massage with release.
I have yet to find both at the same time. Does it exist in Tijuana?Tijuana has some of the laziest massage therapists I have come across. I've had some ask me for a tip before the massage even started.
Every now and then I go to VivaMex on Calle 4 and Revolucion because I get a discount $25 for an hour but when you add in a tip it still isn't worth it. I go every now and then if I want to lie down for an hour and have someone touch me but I don't expect much. After all $35 gets you laid in Tijuana. Ditching the massage is a no brainer.
Captain Solo
09-28-15, 05:53
http://www.sindicatura.gob.mx/
You can report police corruption to Sindicatura on line. They would then invite you to go to their office bringing IDS, any witness and evidence to press charges:
Palacio Municipal, Segundo Nivel Avenida Independencia No. 1350 Zona areío, 22010 Tijuana, Mexico.
+52 664 973 7273.
For those of us who are newer to these boards, could you post a recap of your preventive measures? In an earlier post there was mention of a Sindicatura card. Basically, once this happens, what are the proper follow up steps for us?
Graves
For those of us who are newer to these boards, could you post a recap of your preventive measures? In an earlier post there was mention of a Sindicatura card. Basically, once this happens, what are the proper follow up steps for us?
GravesFirst of all, do not put any stock into the "Colorful Opinions" of one Captain who frequents these boards. He has no idea what he's talking about, and has never done the things he's suggesting.
Hugo did all the right things. Kept money and phone in hand, making it hard to steal. He noted the number on the car. He immediately called 066 and reported it. If it were me, I think I'd also fill out the paperwork at the Sindacatura, but it didn't happen to me, and I'm certainly not going to second guess him. Tijuana cops have a terrible reputation and I believe that the city is trying, at least somewhat, to clean up that image. Unfortunately, corrupt cops are a fact of life in Mexico, and it's not going to change overnight.
The aberration here is that the cop got violent, as another (maybe the same?) did with KevinM earlier. That was a very rare thing, indeed, in the past. HTM did the right thing by not taking it lying down. I'm sure the cop lost a ton of face and will think twice about roughing up another gringo. When the shakedown is 200 pesos for some bullshit allegation, it's one thing, and you pick your battles. What's your time and effort worth? But getting, basically, mugged by a thief in uniform, well, that's another.
Here's a link: http://www.sindicatura.gob.mx/SindicaturaNet/html/comun/mpg/queja.aspx.
Baxter Slade
09-29-15, 01:41
The aberration here is that the cop got violent, as another (maybe the same?) did with KevinM earlier. That was a very rare thing, indeed, in the past. HTM did the right thing by not taking it lying down. I'm sure the cop lost a ton of face and will think twice about roughing up another gringo. When the shakedown is 200 pesos for some bullshit allegation, it's one thing, and you pick your battles. What's your time and effort worth? But getting, basically, mugged by a thief in uniform, well, that's another.
Here's a link: http://www.sindicatura.gob.mx/SindicaturaNet/html/comun/mpg/queja.aspx.Good points Phord. Seeing how the behavior of these cops was much different than your normal just looking for a bribe, or slipping a few dollars out of your pocket during a search. I'm still considering discussing this incident with Sindicatura. Hopefully with the record of the emergency call on file somewhere that might buy me a little time. Obviously the more they got away with there robbing of tourists the more brazen they became.
The following is a quote from an amigo who posted it elsewhere:
"I talked to one of my street girls about this event and she said there are a pair of policia that do most of the morning gringo robberies. They have been assigned to zona norte for about a year and a half or two years. They often cruise around the alley over and over and shakedown gringos in the morning hours.
She works days with some early morning starts and usually stands between Hotel El Porton and the corner, so she's in a good position to witness a lot of morning thievery by these two. ".
My guess is these are the same clowns who came after me. The Method of operation seems to be the same and judging by all the USA Currency they showed me they are getting pretty good at this. Well if anything I will be in touch with my amigo who provided that bit of intel and we may be able to determine if this incident has changed there evil ways.
Good points Phord. Seeing how the behavior of these cops was much different than your normal just looking for a bribe, or slipping a few dollars out of your pocket during a search. I'm still considering discussing this incident with Sindicatura. Hopefully with the record of the emergency call on file somewhere that might buy me a little time. Obviously the more they got away with there robbing of tourists the more brazen they became.
The following is a quote from an amigo who posted it elsewhere:
"I talked to one of my street girls about this event and she said there are a pair of policia that do most of the morning gringo robberies. They have been assigned to zona norte for about a year and a half or two years. They often cruise around the alley over and over and shakedown gringos in the morning hours.
She works days with some early morning starts and usually stands between Hotel El Porton and the corner, so she's in a good position to witness a lot of morning thievery by these two. ".
My guess is these are the same clowns who came after me. The Method of operation seems to be the same and judging by all the USA Currency they showed me they are getting pretty good at this. Well if anything I will be in touch with my amigo who provided that bit of intel and we may be able to determine if this incident has changed there evil ways.Hugo,
Do you have a description of these clowns? A badge number, or police car number even if they are partial numbers. Maybe some of us in the past have neglected to complain now want to step forward to complain following your example.
LifeIsABeach
09-29-15, 07:44
Seeing how the behavior of these cops was much different than your normal just looking for a bribe, or slipping a few dollars out of your pocket during a search. Your are lucky that this did not happen to you in Colombia.
Originally Posted by Dickhead:
I have said several times that Colombia is inordinately dangerous in many regards. I have been to 49 countries now and Colombia is the only one where:
1) I was robbed multiple times (I. E. , twice in the same trip).
2) I was robbed in broad daylight with cops looking on, and indeed involved.
3) I was physically assaulted while being robbed of a very small amount.
4) I got thrown in jail for the weekend for resisting a robbery.
5) I received counterfeit bills from a taxista and then he called the cops.
6) The doormen in my building increased the danger rather than reducing it.
Captain Solo
09-29-15, 13:24
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EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted because it contributed nothing of value and in fact constituted a complete waste of bandwidth.
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex. Let's stick to the subject.
It seems like the MO of this cop (s) is to cruise the Zona in the early morning looking for tourists to shake down. In the early morning because if a tourist is still leftover from the night before, he's likely to have spent the night drinking. And an intoxicated victim is unlikely to resist nor file a complaint. This is also the time when there are less people in the streets to act as a witness.
So early Saturday or Sunday is not a good time to be on the streets in the Zona. Better to wait until at least 8 am to wander ouside?
ScatManDoo
09-29-15, 20:49
First of all, do not put any stock into the "Colorful Opinions" of one Captain who frequents these boards. He has no idea what he's talking about, and has never done the things he's suggesting.
Hugo did all the right things. Kept money and phone in hand, making it hard to steal. He noted the number on the car. He immediately called 066 and reported it. If it were me, I think I'd also fill out the paperwork at the Sindacatura, but it didn't happen to me, and I'm certainly not going to second guess him. Tijuana cops have a terrible reputation and I believe that the city is trying, at least somewhat, to clean up that image. Unfortunately, corrupt cops are a fact of life in Mexico, and it's not going to change overnight.I agree with what you say PP. Corruption and victimization of gringos is deeply ingrained in Tijuana's policia department.
Hey Scatman while I was considering if I should pursue this thing that story you told a while ago about going down to the station and the Policia Supervisor wanting you to ID a cop out of a room full of cops flashed in to my mind and I started thinking I would not be able to do that. I never really got a good look at him.That happened back in June 2014 and it was pretty intimidating.
I didn't go back to LZ for three months, and not until after I grew a beard!
Long Don Silva
09-30-15, 06:26
Just hit up Tijuana (Mexico in general) for the first time Saturday. I took a cab to La Coahuila just after crossing the border around 5:00 pm. I went by myself, but did a lot of research online beforehand. So I got out of the cab and almost instantly, someone directs me to a particular bar, followed by an offer to get me whatever drugs I need. I told him I'm not here for that, having heard about the horrors endured by Americans caught with drugs in Mexico. However, I was still a bit nervous since I read the cops will harass you even for simply verbally refusing the dealers. I hit up the street taco vendor at Calle Coahuila and Ninos Heroes since that's where the locals were mostly eating. So after my quick meal, I headed around the corner to check out the paraditas. But right as I was approaching Callejon Coahuila, two police officers appeared to just finish patting someone down, then quickly turned to me and told me to get up against the wall. One asked if I speak Spanish, to which I replied, 'poquito'. He started asking me where I came from, what's my name, show him my ID, why am I here (I told him 'por las chicas' how much money do I have, etc. So they searched my pockets and handed me my money and my phone after taking them out. I had two wads of cash on me ($20's in one and smaller bills in the other). So he took the other wad out and fiddled with it for a bit before putting it back in my pocket. They said something about cameras and taking me to the police station. My Spanish isn't great but I could ascertain that they supposedly caught me doing something illegal and were going to take me in. So I told them I've only been there for 20 minutes and I just came from the you. S, got out the taxi, and ate some tacos. That's it. While they continued to pat me down, I asked, "Quieres algo de mi?" I heard that they usually want a small bribe and you're better off just giving it to them. So he looked at me like "Huh?" and I just stayed silent. I don't think offering a bribe can backfire like it could in the states, but I don't know for sure. So they finished patting me down, I asked "Todo bien?" and they both shook my hand like it was an honor to meet me (like two or three times each, LOL!) and sent me on my way. But I wasn't sure if they took some of my money or not. So I walked through my options of street girls, keeping in mind to focus on the ones who are showing their torso so I know what I'm getting for the most part (structurally at least). I saw a few really pretty faces but their torsos were covered, and I saw a few really nice torsos with OK faces. I was conflicted. Usually I'd go with the latter but I was really hoping to get top-notch value. So I walked down and back, not able to make up my mind. There was a really cute, medium brown, petite girl that I saw right away at Ninos Heroes and Callejon, but her torso was concealed. She was the one that stood out most among the paraditas in my mind and who I kept considering. But I couldn't tell if she had a tight stomach or not. There was another real cute one too, but she was snatched up within the few seconds I paused to think about going for her (dammit!) A few minutes later, a guy asked me in English what happened with the police and I told him what happened. He told me to get their badge numbers and report them. But I told him I did my research and felt it was best to let it go. He then referred me to this website. So thanks man, if you're reading. I went into Adelita, went into the bathroom, and counted my money (cops didn't take anything! I grabbed a beer and sat at the bar where I was approached by two or three fair-skinned blondes, one after another, asking me a few ice breaker questions and if I would buy them a drink. I politely declined since my preference is morenas. Disappointed in the selection (I know, it was still early), I left and surveyed the paraditas again. Still unable to make a decision, I tried to get into Hong Kong, but one door man was taking his sweet-ass time with the guy in front of me, admitting others while talking to him, and ignoring me. I looked at the other door man and he just deferred back to the other guy. Are all the employees at HK jags? Disappointed at this, I walked away and was warmly welcomed into Las Chavelas. There were a few mediocre women in the front, which I passed by before ordering another beer. I walk into the back where I met Sandra. A stunning face sitting at one of the tables. I didn't even concern myself with the fact that her abs were concealed, since her face was so pretty. I bought her a drink and spoke a bit with her before going up to the hotel. My plan was to get a really cute girl and book two hours with her to hit it a couple times (I made sure the offer was for "todos servicios") and get her to teach me some Spanish. So she said that would be $100 and then it was like $54 for the room. Not bad compared to USA Prices but still too much compared to my expectations of Tijuana. We agreed on an hour for $60 ($27 for the room). I asked her if we can go to a cheaper hotel but I think they have to use the one next to the bar they work at (or maybe they feel safer doing so? She took off her clothes and she had saggy abs. And I'm not sure if it was that, the condom (I'm used to going raw with my wife), or just the hint of nerves that come with a white boy's first time in Mexico, by himself at that (maybe all of the above); but I was having "problems". Man, I often regret all the porn I used to watch. I eventually got it up and stuck it in, and she got really into it. Unfortunately, Mr. Happy wasn't all so into it. After going at it for a while and not finishing (I didn't at least; she seemed to really enjoy it), I got a decent conversation to help me learn the language. We both took a shower, then as she left she kept telling me "Cuidado". It was dark out by then. So I bought a Viagra from the hotel store and went back to the paraditas. Again, couldn't decide. Went back to Adelita, which was pretty lively at that point. I ordered a beer and could tell one of the girls was trying to gain position on me while I was facing the bar, trying to completely block my exit from the bar. So I tried to sneak around her after I got my beer and she caught me. Hello! One of the most beautiful faces I've ever seen, short hair (I like), and braces. Her name is Denise. I don't know why, but I really like braces. And she was very assertive so I knew she would be a good lay. She kept calling me guapo, pulling on my beard, and using it to pull me into her repeatedly as if she was banging me right there, making sex sounds while doing so. Ok, she will probably be a lot of fun in bed. Again, abs were concealed, but everything else seemed to make up for the potential shortcoming. We sat at a table and had a few drinks while she kept grinding on my lap and showing me her ass and tits. Shit, the Viagra wasn't working and she grabbed my junk and asked me if it was dead. I gave her a gentle slap on the face for that. So she suggested a shot of tequila. She started the negotiations at $60 por todo. I checked my cash. Shit, that's all I had and I left my debit card in my car across the border. So she said to just pay for the hotel and give the rest to her. We finished our drinks, she made her move to get up, and said "El cuarto". So we went up, and she undressed. Yup, as I read in another post, wonder bra and spandex go a long way for a woman. She was OK, but you could tell she had kids. Saggy abs again. I was ready to go anyway, I guess the Viagra kind of kicked in. But I took a really long time and she kept telling me to finish. I told her that I won't be able to finish if she kept telling me to finish, so she said OK and kept quiet. I think it was starting to hurt her. She straight up worked that shit though for the first half of the session (so did Sandra BTW). I finally blew my load and we got dressed and left. Oh shit! It's dark and I don't have cab fare! Fortunately, I was able to walk to the border without getting jumped and waited two hours to get back to the states. Man, I straight up had my head on a swivel the whole walk back to the border. Just thought my first time in Tijuana made for a good story, especially in this forum, and hoping for any feedback you all can provide.
Thanks!
Captain Solo
09-30-15, 06:54
La Familia Michoacan is at work kidnapping:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/grandmothers-ordeal-hands-mexican-kidnappers-040537800.html
Just hit up Tijuana (Mexico in general) for the first time Saturday.
to the border. Just thought my first time in Tijuana made for a good story, especially in this forum, and hoping for any feedback you all can provide.
Thanks!Glad you had a good time. Probably never want to offer a bribe. It actually creates a legit reason to arrest you rather than just pat you down. You were searched because the other guy was being searched for drug distribution and you were in proximity. I would insist speaking only English in any questioning. Eliminates misunderstandings and forces them to find a translator should they want to extort. Don't just assume it's a shakedown. Even the most crooket cop will pick a good time and place rather than all the time in front of many witnesses.
Try to get into HK because you appear to be a abs freak. LOL. Girls in HK parade in Bikinis in very well lit areas. Their abs are flat. Once they gain weight, they go to work for Adelitas. Hk is like being in a room with young college co-eds. Ok, half naked ones but nevertheless.
Should avoid at all cost walking back in the dark. Next time pick out a couple of Guys traveling in a group catching a cab back and ask for a free ride because the Adelitas girl took your last penny. If none, just stay in a bar until morning.
Difficult to find the perfect toy in the toy store huh?
ScatManDoo
09-30-15, 19:24
Thank you for your report on your first visit to La Zona.
It is evident that you did your research prior to your first excursion. Getting stopped and searched on your first visit? Congratulations!
You let the policia hold your money, and none was palmed by the cops? Beginners luck! Bogus assertion by the policia that you were doing something illegal with your camera: Par for the course. I recommend that you reach in your pockets first when stopped by Tijuana Policia and hold your currency in your hands during the entire stop.
Chicas with concealed body damage? Welcome to reality.
So you survived your first LZ visit, despite walking back after dark. The experience is certain to feel less spooky if you return for a second trip to Tijuana, which might help with your nerves. Arrive on a very hot afternoon and the amount of bare midriffs for your purview will be greater. Last Saturday wasn't that hot for a late September day in Tijuana.
Bar chicas in Las Chavelas, Hong Kong Bar and Bar Tropical are only allowed to have sex sessions up in Cascades or Rizo de Oro (conglomerate related hotels) during their shift unless you want to pay an onerous bar fine.
.,.she was very assertive so I knew she would be a good lay.I don't think these are words to live by in La Zona (nor to base selections on, unless super aggressive women are your thing).
I will quote my good buddy Tom J:
" Paragraphs can be your best friend "
Baxter Slade
09-30-15, 23:29
Thanks for the report. But I was just wondering if your Abs were exposed. Thats the first thing those joto cops look for.
Long Don Silva
10-01-15, 00:09
Artisttyp,
My bad. I'm usually on point when it comes to grammar. Perhaps Montezuma's Revenge got the best of me as I was writing that. I read about all these people hitting up the food there like it's no problem. Maybe I'm suffering because it's my first time? Or just got really unlucky. The asada was rarer than I'm used to.
Hugo. My abs were fully covered. Thanks for the tip though.
ItsMeBeyatch
10-01-15, 06:25
That was me. You're welcome. I was at the taco stand when I saw them talking to you at the corner. I was observing with my phone in hand in case they tried to take any money from you. But as soon as they grabbed you they let you go so I went the opposite way to check out the SW and we just happened to run into each other. I'm glad they didn't take anything from you. Probably because there where to many onlookers. , I wasn't the only one noticing the cops questioning you. Like I told you then do not offer a bribe. You need to do a little more research. Thus is the best site for it in my opinion. Any question ask the board or pm. I'm glad they didn't take your cash. Take care
Just hit up Tijuana (Mexico in general) for the first time Saturday. I took a cab to La Coahuila just after crossing the border around 5:00 pm. I went by myself, but did a lot of research online beforehand. So I got out of the cab and almost instantly, someone directs me to a particular bar, followed by an offer to get me whatever drugs I need. I told him I'm not here for that, having heard about the horrors endured by Americans caught with drugs in Mexico. However, I was still a bit nervous since I read the cops will harass you even for simply verbally refusing the dealers. I hit up the street taco vendor at Calle Coahuila and Ninos Heroes since that's where the locals were mostly eating. So after my quick meal, I headed around the corner to check out the paraditas. But right as I was approaching Callejon Coahuila, two police officers appeared to just finish patting someone down, then quickly turned to me and told me to get up against the wall. One asked if I speak Spanish, to which I replied, 'poquito'. He started asking me where I came from, what's my name, show him my ID, why am I here (I told him 'por las chicas' how much money do I have, etc. So they searched my pockets and handed me my money and my phone after taking them out. I had two wads of cash on me ($20's in one and smaller bills in the other). So he took the other wad out and fiddled with it for a bit before putting it back in my pocket. They said something about cameras and taking me to the police station. My Spanish isn't great but I could ascertain that they supposedly caught me doing something illegal and were going to take me in. So I told them I've only been there for 20 minutes and I just came from the you. S, got out the taxi, and ate some tacos. That's it. While they continued to pat me down, I asked, "Quieres algo de mi?" I heard that they usually want a small bribe and you're better off just giving it to them. So he looked at me like "Huh?" and I just stayed silent. I don't think offering a bribe can backfire like it could in the states, but I don't know for sure. So they finished patting me down, I asked "Todo bien?" and they both shook my hand like it was an honor to meet me (like two or three times each, LOL!) and sent me on my way. But I wasn't sure if they took some of my money or not. So I walked through my options of street girls, keeping in mind to focus on the ones who are showing their torso so I know what I'm getting for the most part (structurally at least). I saw a few really pretty faces but their torsos were covered, and I saw a few really nice torsos with OK faces. I was conflicted. Usually I'd go with the latter but I was really hoping to get top-notch value. So I walked down and back, not able to make up my mind. There was a really cute, medium brown, petite girl that I saw right away at Ninos Heroes and Callejon, but her torso was concealed. She was the one that stood out most among the paraditas in my mind and who I kept considering. But I couldn't tell if she had a tight stomach or not. There was another real cute one too, but she was snatched up within the few seconds I paused to think about going for her (dammit!) A few minutes later, a guy asked me in English what happened with the police and I told him what happened. He told me to get their badge numbers and report them. But I told him I did my research and felt it was best to let it go. He then referred me to this website. So thanks man, if you're reading. I went into Adelita, went into the bathroom, and counted my money (cops didn't take anything! I grabbed a beer and sat at the bar where I was approached by two or three fair-skinned blondes, one after another, asking me a few ice breaker questions and if I would buy them a drink. I politely declined since my preference is morenas. Disappointed in the selection (I know, it was still early), I left and surveyed the paraditas again. Still unable to make a decision, I tried to get into Hong Kong, but one door man was taking his sweet-ass time with the guy in front of me, admitting others while talking to him, and ignoring me. I looked at the other door man and he just deferred back to the other guy. Are all the employees at HK jags? Disappointed at this, I walked away and was warmly welcomed into Las Chavelas. There were a few mediocre women in the front, which I passed by before ordering another beer. I walk into the back where I met Sandra. A stunning face sitting at one of the tables. I didn't even concern myself with the fact that her abs were concealed, since her face was so pretty. I bought her a drink and spoke a bit with her before going up to the hotel. My plan was to get a really cute girl and book two hours with her to hit it a couple times (I made sure the offer was for "todos servicios") and get her to teach me some Spanish. So she said that would be $100 and then it was like $54 for the room. Not bad compared to USA Prices but still too much compared to my expectations of Tijuana. We agreed on an hour for $60 ($27 for the room). I asked her if we can go to a cheaper hotel but I think they have to use the one next to the bar they work at (or maybe they feel safer doing so? She took off her clothes and she had saggy abs. And I'm not sure if it was that, the condom (I'm used to going raw with my wife), or just the hint of nerves that come with a white boy's first time in Mexico, by himself at that (maybe all of the above); but I was having "problems". Man, I often regret all the porn I used to watch. I eventually got it up and stuck it in, and she got really into it. Unfortunately, Mr. Happy wasn't all so into it. After going at it for a while and not finishing (I didn't at least; she seemed to really enjoy it), I got a decent conversation to help me learn the language. We both took a shower, then as she left she kept telling me "Cuidado". It was dark out by then. So I bought a Viagra from the hotel store and went back to the paraditas. Again, couldn't decide. Went back to Adelita, which was pretty lively at that point. I ordered a beer and could tell one of the girls was trying to gain position on me while I was facing the bar, trying to completely block my exit from the bar. So I tried to sneak around her after I got my beer and she caught me. Hello! One of the most beautiful faces I've ever seen, short hair (I like), and braces. Her name is Denise. I don't know why, but I really like braces. And she was very assertive so I knew she would be a good lay. She kept calling me guapo, pulling on my beard, and using it to pull me into her repeatedly as if she was banging me right there, making sex sounds while doing so. Ok, she will probably be a lot of fun in bed. Again, abs were concealed, but everything else seemed to make up for the potential shortcoming. We sat at a table and had a few drinks while she kept grinding on my lap and showing me her ass and tits. Shit, the Viagra wasn't working and she grabbed my junk and asked me if it was dead. I gave her a gentle slap on the face for that. So she suggested a shot of tequila. She started the negotiations at $60 por todo. I checked my cash. Shit, that's all I had and I left my debit card in my car across the border. So she said to just pay for the hotel and give the rest to her. We finished our drinks, she made her move to get up, and said "El cuarto". So we went up, and she undressed. Yup, as I read in another post, wonder bra and spandex go a long way for a woman. She was OK, but you could tell she had kids. Saggy abs again. I was ready to go anyway, I guess the Viagra kind of kicked in. But I took a really long time and she kept telling me to finish. I told her that I won't be able to finish if she kept telling me to finish, so she said OK and kept quiet. I think it was starting to hurt her. She straight up worked that shit though for the first half of the session (so did Sandra BTW). I finally blew my load and we got dressed and left. Oh shit! It's dark and I don't have cab fare! Fortunately, I was able to walk to the border without getting jumped and waited two hours to get back to the states. Man, I straight up had my head on a swivel the whole walk back to the border. Just thought my first time in Tijuana made for a good story, especially in this forum, and hoping for any feedback you all can provide.
Thanks!.
Captain Solo
10-01-15, 09:29
You had a good first trip, surviving a policia search, and nailed 3 chicas. That's excellent.
You did the right things staying cool with the policia. They are afraid of witnesses and getting recorded by security cameras in the alley, so they would be unlikely to do anything stupid.
If you prefer longer sessions with the chicas, it's better and cheaper to get a room overnight in hotel Cascada for $55. Keep some beers and tequilas in the room. They are very popular with the girls and they loosen them up for good sex. Also people who frequent HK with VIP cards can usually bypass the security pat down and just walk in the club.
I use the same rules as yours to check out the chicas. Unless they bare their mid rifts and show flat abs, most times their guts would spill out disgustingly when they take off their clothes, completely turn me off and give me a serious case of ED. So I avoid chicas who cover up their abs.
In HK I would also stuff $ propinas into boobs and crotches to check the quality of the goods, and to gauge whether the girls are hardened lesbos who detest being touched by men. Good, feminine, sexy girls would feel good and smile sweetly when touched by men, and most likely will give you good sessions in bed.
Congrats on your successful first mission and a good report.
Just hit up Tijuana (Mexico in general) for the first time Saturday.
That's it. While they continued to pat me down, I asked, "Quieres algo de mi?" I heard that they usually want a small bribe and you're better off just giving it to them. So he looked at me like "Huh?" and I just stayed silent. I don't think offering a bribe can backfire like it could in the states, but I don't know for sure. So they finished patting me down, I asked "Todo bien?" and they both shook my hand like it was an honor to meet me (like two or three times each, LOL!) and sent me on my way.
So I walked through my options of street girls, keeping in mind to focus on the ones who are showing their torso so I know what I'm getting for the most part (structurally at least). I saw a few really pretty faces but their torsos were covered, and I saw a few really nice torsos with OK faces. I was conflicted. Usually I'd go with the latter but I was really hoping to get top-notch value. So I walked down and back, not able to make up my mind. There was a really cute, medium brown, petite girl that I saw right away at Ninos Heroes and Callejon, but her torso was concealed..
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