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will be heading down to TJ on this Sat and plan to stay overnight there. anyone interested in meeting up? will be exploring bars in ZN and perhaps some more clubs on Revo as well.
Country John
12-05-07, 03:25
will be heading down to TJ on this Sat and plan to stay overnight there. anyone interested in meeting up? will be exploring bars in ZN and perhaps some more clubs on Revo as well.
Don't waste your time on Revo. They are clip joints. Probably good for little more than a laugh unless you got bucks to waste. The action is in the Zona. Have a nice (and safe) trip.
Country John
Petite Penis
12-05-07, 19:24
http://image.bayimg.com/cahhhaabp.jpg
Is this map of ZN still valid in terms of clubs? Can you really get to HK by going through Las Chevales?
PS. I'm not sure where I found this map but I know it's older. I want to give credit to whoever made it, I just don't know who. Also, sorry that it's a link but it's too big to upload to ISG.
http://image.bayimg.com/cahhhaabp.jpg
Is this map of ZN still valid in terms of clubs? Can you really get to HK by going through Las Chevales?
PS. I'm not sure where I found this map but I know it's older. I want to give credit to whoever made it, I just don't know who. Also, sorry that it's a link but it's too big to upload to ISG.
This map is very dated.
There are still clubs in all of these locations, but some of the names have changed.
You can't go between Las Chavelas and Hong Kong, maybe staff can. Same thing for Adelitas and Valentina. Perhaps staff can cross through the back rooms (same owner), but certainly not open to the public.
Mike
Smut Villain
12-06-07, 15:13
Don't waste your time on Revo. They are clip joints. Probably good for little more than a laugh unless you got bucks to waste. The action is in the Zona. Have a nice (and safe) trip.
Country John
CJ is right. Most of the "veterans" who know their way in and around Tijuana usually stay the hell away from Avenida Revelucion. That place is where touristas who don't know any better go to get ripped off.
CJ is right. Most of the "veterans" who know their way in and around Tijuana usually stay the hell away from Avenida Revelucion. That place is where touristas who don't know any better go to get ripped off.
I dont consider myself a veteran but I defentely know my way around TJ. The ZN is still my favorite place but I don't spend too much time in the bars like AB anymore since it became such a hardcore place than before. Actually I've had pretty good luck getting hooked up with strippers from those strip joints on Revo and I don't usually spend too much money on them either. So wish me a good luck again. :-)
Smut Villain
12-06-07, 23:05
I dont consider myself a veteran but I defentely know my way around TJ. The ZN is still my favorite place but I don't spend too much time in the bars like AB anymore since it became such a hardcore place than before. Actually I've had pretty good luck getting hooked up with strippers from those strip joints on Revo and I don't usually spend too much money on them either. So wish me a good luck again. :-)
I hear you on AB. I remember that place before they got all "modernized" and shit. It had a certain gritty appeal to it, but this was waaay back in the day when the CC girls charged more than AB and AB was a pretty good deal. Hell, AB didn't even have the "Fuck Factory" feel to it like it does these days, and scoring a GFE was a lot easier.
Glad to hear you're scoring on Revolucion (I've been able to do that a couple of times myself back in the day :)) but remember; for every story like yours and mine there are 200 other customers getting set up and ripped off in those Avenida Revolucion clip joints. Next time you take a stroll down that street just duck into San Souci, Peanuts or one of the other bars for a beer and watch the clientelle. You'll see exactly why I'd never take a noob down that way (except for the sole purpose of showing him what not to do).
Country John
12-07-07, 17:57
I dont consider myself a veteran but I defentely know my way around TJ. The ZN is still my favorite place but I don't spend too much time in the bars like AB anymore since it became such a hardcore place than before. Actually I've had pretty good luck getting hooked up with strippers from those strip joints on Revo and I don't usually spend too much money on them either. So wish me a good luck again. :-)
Ahh cool, if you know your stuff then no need for me to tell you. I was not certain if you knew the "lay of the land" so to speak.
AB is a fuck store, much like Walmart. It's not what it used to be. Not by a long shot. The reason? Sex sells. It always did and it always will.
Be safe and be dry. It's raining like crazy here.
Country John
What strip clubs are good on Revo ave?
What strip clubs are good on Revo ave?
None, unless you like really expensive lady drinks, being constantly hustled for private dances, having a large mama-san twisting your arm to pay top dollar to your lady for a BJ, FS, or the like, in a really ratty "room" upstairs. Of course, if this is your thing, then they're all pretty good.
:-)
Actually, I've seen some pretty chicas at Peanuts and Beer. Avoid Bambis, unless you like TVs. Beverly Hills will hustle the sh*t out of you for drinks, dances, etc., etc. The one across from the Jai Alai fronton (can't remember the name) reminded me of the dog pound. The last time I went into Cesar's the chicas all looked like crack hos. Been to a couple of others, but can't remember the names. But the talent really doesn't compare to La Zona.
PP
None, unless you like really expensive lady drinks, being constantly hustled for private dances, having a large mama-san twisting your arm to pay top dollar to your lady for a BJ, FS, or the like, in a really ratty "room" upstairs. Of course, if this is your thing, then they're all pretty good.
Actually, I've seen some pretty chicas at Peanuts and Beer. Avoid Bambis, unless you like TVs. Beverly Hills will hustle the sh*t out of you for drinks, dances, etc., etc. The one across from the Jai Alai fronton (can't remember the name) reminded me of the dog pound. The last time I went into Cesar's the chicas all looked like crack hos. Been to a couple of others, but can't remember the names. But the talent really doesn't compare to La Zona.
PPThanks I went to one called Amnesia where the girls are pretty hot but they do kinda hustle you a little. I paid 60 bucks for fingering some chick for a long time and getting her all naked and shit "sucked my dick" with my pants on. Do you think this was a good deal. LOL.
La Zona is a strip club?
Thanks I went to one called Amnesia where the girls are pretty hot but they do kinda hustle you a little. I paid 60 bucks for fingering some chick for a long time and getting her all naked and shit "sucked my dick" with my pants on. Do you think this was a good deal. LOL.
La Zona is a strip club?
You got fleeced, IMHO.
La Zona = La Zona Norte (the North zone) or La Zona Roja (the red zone, aka red-light district). Same-same. That's where all the action is, and where all the talent works.
PP
Thanks I went to one called Amnesia where the girls are pretty hot but they do kinda hustle you a little. I paid 60 bucks for fingering some chick for a long time and getting her all naked and shit "sucked my dick" with my pants on. Do you think this was a good deal. LOL.
La Zona is a strip club?
A good deal? Relative to what you would have paid in a U.S. strip club(like Cheetah's in SD, or Bare Elegance in L.A), you'd probalbly feel like you got the best deal since the Lousiana Purchase. LOL. It just depends on what you're used to and your end of the night goal. I have been to my fair share of strip clubs since coming of age and through my college years. I've seen some of my buddies blow big money at places like Bare Elegance where you an even use your credit card; just to drool over an exotic Hungarian beauty. I wasn't open to going to TJ until a couple of years ago; and now I can't get enough. I still have buddies who prefer U.S. strip clubs; maybe their just "hooker shy". LMAO. Anyways, adult entertainment on all levels(MPs, strip clubs, brothels) is a much better bargain in TJ. If you really like strip clubs, you'll probably like Hong Kong Club; it has a strip club feel to it. Just remember to protect yourself and your wallet.
Jay
You got fleeced, IMHO.
La Zona = La Zona Norte (the North zone) or La Zona Roja (the red zone, aka red-light district). Same-same. That's where all the action is, and where all the talent works.
PPOh, ok. Peanuts and beer is a strip club? . Would taxi drivers know if you told them that you wanted to go there?
And btw any recommendations of bars you guys like, I know of Adelitas, any others really good? Just to chill with some buddies. College guys. LOL
Oh, ok. Peanuts and beer is a strip club? . Would taxi drivers know if you told them that you wanted to go there?
And btw any recommendations of bars you guys like, I know of Adelitas, any others really good? Just to chill with some buddies. College guys. LOL
Yeah, all the taxi guys will know.
The bar in the Hotel Nelson is a great place to just chill and drink No chicas or other distractions, if just chilling is what you're after.
PP
Locoaztec14
12-11-07, 05:32
Any people been to the zona lately? How is the selection of ladiez this week?
No shortage due to the holidayz?
Yeah, all the taxi guys will know.
The bar in the Hotel Nelson is a great place to just chill and drink No chicas or other distractions, if just chilling is what you're after.
PPWell chilling at a bar like Adelitas I mean. Then taking care of business. LOL
Playa Pavones
12-12-07, 12:53
What time do these clubs/bars close now in Tijuana? Thanks.
What time do these clubs/bars close now in Tijuana? Thanks.
At least 4:00am, maybe later.
PP
hey guys, I have some international co-workers that are in the USA on work / student visas. I want to show them a great time down in TJ, but I have no clue if they'll be allowed back into the states.
I would hate for there to be complications....is there any info you can give me about this matter? THANKS!
Country John
12-18-07, 22:59
hey guys, I have some international co-workers that are in the USA on work / student visas. I want to show them a great time down in TJ, but I have no clue if they'll be allowed back into the states.
I would hate for there to be complications....is there any info you can give me about this matter? THANKS!
Here is the link to the information concerning student visas:
http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/types/types_1268.html
Country John
LookslikeLE
12-19-07, 23:00
It looks like I might have a chance to get down to TJ next week. Does anyone know if there are any girls working the week between X-mass and the New Year.
Undercoverh
12-20-07, 04:53
Below is a link to a NPR radio report about the sex trade in Tijuana that played on my local radio station today. Click the speaker icon to listen to a rebroadcast. As usual, when the media finds out America men are having fun with foreign women, the media tries to find the angle that portrays the American man as some stupid guy taking advantage of women.
The story is full of BS. The angle is, "a recent survey there found workers who had sex with American clients more likely to have a sexually-transmitted disease than those who didn't work with Americans." Is this bullshit or what.
Of course, the survey is done by an American women.....is this a joke or what. Geeezzzes, I can't wait to go back home to my country, there is so much media BS here.
During my lunch break, I often talk with an American coworker about American women. He was upset (pissed off is more like it) I put down most American women for being money hungry bitches. I told him if the women here are so wonderful, why are so many American men coming to my country (China) to find a wife or girlfriend. In China, there is not a day that goes by I do not see some American guy with a younger Asian girl.
I also told him, how many men around the world are coming to America to find an American wife........ZERO. Why, because most men around the world know that having an American wife is NO prize.........and she will be a lots of trouble.
Hum, I wonder why the media never has a stories about the outrageous amount money men pay for child support or alimony. Or, how America women are bitches.
http://www.theworld.org/?q=node/14819
Country John
12-20-07, 19:28
It looks like I might have a chance to get down to TJ next week. Does anyone know if there are any girls working the week between X-mass and the New Year.
Holy shit, I thought I missd the funeral. Where you been LLLE? Are you the same guy?
Christmas will be very thin, New Years will be packed. But you can ALWAYS get laid in the Zona.
Country John
Sunset Strip
12-20-07, 23:13
This report, or one like it, aired on a big southern CA news show a few weeks back.
Yes, the report is very biased. The conclusion that a TJ sex worker who has sex with American men is more likely to have a sexually contacted disease as a result of that sex is erroneous. The woman is more likely to have a disease because she is probably prettier than the sex workers who ONLY get local Mexican men. And she probably has lots more sex than the woman who only has sex with locals.
The report that I heard of (I cannot listen to the one posted here yet because I am at work) made it seem American guys are giving the girls diseases and thus are "dirty." But even if the prettier girls serviced a whole bunch of Mexicans their chances of catching something would go up. that survey was BS is my point.
TJ
TJ
Petite Penis
12-21-07, 00:18
Anyone up for a run to the Zona on Christmas Day?
I don't leave work until the afternoon so it would have to be in the afternoon / evening.
Country John
12-21-07, 00:53
This report, or one like it, aired on a big southern CA news show a few weeks back.
Yes, the report is very biased. The conclusion that a TJ sex worker who has sex with American men is more likely to have a sexually contacted disease as a result of that sex is erroneous. The woman is more likely to have a disease because she is probably prettier than the sex workers who ONLY get local Mexican men. And she probably has lots more sex than the woman who only has sex with locals.
The report that I heard of (I cannot listen to the one posted here yet because I am at work) made it seem American guys are giving the girls diseases and thus are "dirty." But even if the prettier girls serviced a whole bunch of Mexicans their chances of catching something would go up. that survey was BS is my point.
TJ
TJ
The only people believing this stuff are the bytch gringas sitting at home or in the car while their husbands are in TJ getting some fine sex. Anyone who knows TJ knows this is just a bunch of baloney.
It's more like the thumpers got together and decided to put some pressure on NPR to air some bad PR in order to discourage mongers (who already know better).
Any monger who doesn't exercize good judgement when it comes to intimate sexual encounters will only have himself to blame if things go terribly wrong. NPR was noticably silent on the fact that you run that risk stateside or anywhere. Mongers need to know the risks and make their own decisions.
So think it through. The report might have been bullshit, but putting the focus on safe sex makes it less than a total loss.
Country John
Flying in from Vegas on the 26th and leaving 29th? to drive to LA. Will be staying in a hotel on the US side near the border.
Any one want to hook up and go trolling the zone. Figure a early afternoon and a eve troll.
D Cooper76
12-21-07, 03:07
Anybody see the news report about this - 'A group of armed men opened fire inside Rosarito Beach's police station yesterday.'
I guess one policia was killed. Seems like a lot of gunplay between the police and "a group of armed men" in the TJ area. I remember reading more than one article about incidents such as this in the past year.
Anybody have any ideas on what this is all about?
Country John
12-21-07, 17:11
Anybody see the news report about this - 'A group of armed men opened fire inside Rosarito Beach's police station yesterday.'
I guess one policia was killed. Seems like a lot of gunplay between the police and "a group of armed men" in the TJ area. I remember reading more than one article about incidents such as this in the past year.
Anybody have any ideas on what this is all about?
Yeah, the bad guys don't like the cops getting into their shit. There are some interesting stats on police activity as it relates to organized crime (including narcos) and some government/law enforcement guys actually believe that the bad guys should not win. Too bad they don't have the support of the community.
The Federal Government of Mexico is not doing their part and local law enforcement is feeling the brunt of the organized crime resistance because protection of tourists and citizens is being left up to local law enforcement and that includes doing what they can to control the organized crime. They lack the training, equipment and resources to do the job and, again, the federal government is nowhere to be found.
Calderon needs to wake up.
Here is a link to a story that sums up what went down: http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/mexico/tijuana/20071220-9999-1m20station.html
If you stay out of the drug trade, away from the mess, you'll be out of the line of fire.
Be safe and be nice
Country John
D Cooper76
12-21-07, 20:35
Thanks for the insight CJ. It definately sounds like the lack of support from the Feds will continue to have tragic results for the local police. It is surely a bad sign when thugs feel brazen enough to shoot up a police station.
Member #4450
12-22-07, 23:50
The only people believing this stuff are the bytch gringas sitting at home or in the car while their husbands are in TJ getting some fine sex. Anyone who knows TJ knows this is just a bunch of baloney.
It's more like the thumpers got together and decided to put some pressure on NPR to air some bad PR in order to discourage mongers (who already know better).
Any monger who doesn't exercize good judgement when it comes to intimate sexual encounters will only have himself to blame if things go terribly wrong. NPR was noticably silent on the fact that you run that risk stateside or anywhere. Mongers need to know the risks and make their own decisions.
So think it through. The report might have been bullshit, but putting the focus on safe sex makes it less than a total loss.
I agree with CJ and some of the the audio tape, I think at this stage of age having unprotected sex is crazy and dumb stupid period!
I have a rule to follow when in the zona, every time I take a girl, I always ask if she does unprotected sex, not because I want to, I just want to hear her answer if she say "YES" but I need more money I say Bye Bye, and I look for someone else, chances are she does it often and your chances of getting a disease are very high, I think we should listen to this important message and also to educate the few mongers looking for BBFS in TJ.
I do not believe the bullshit about Americans giving diseases to sex workers.
I do worry about some bisexuals who practice unprotected sex, those are the ones more likely to share diseases to the girls, controversial yes but true!
I like when the chicas take good care of them selfs, it just makes me feel safe too, I always stay away from needle users, I always check arms,legs and feet for bruises,needle scars etc. If I find any of that shit I walk away and look for someone else.
There are plenty of beautiful and clean girls in TJ, there's no need to get a skank, again I would be worry if a girl offer me BBFS, it's like if she asks me to play Russian roulette with a gun!
You guys can do as you wish, but for you safe and everyone else wear the freaking condom.
Thanks.................
Ninguno Especial
12-23-07, 00:23
I have a rule to follow when in the zona, every time I take a girl, I always ask if she does unprotected sex, not because I want to, I just want to hear her answer if she say "YES" but I need more money I say Bye Bye, and I look for someone else,
I do worry about some bisexuals who practice unprotected sex, those are the ones more likely to share diseases to the girls, controversial yes but true!
I worry about the bisexuals too as they most likely butt F their buddies and try to do it with the TJ chicas sin condon.
So how often do the chicas imply they do unprotected sex when you ask? I would say most wouldn't admit it before going up so you could most likely miss some that do allow it but don't want to fess up right away.
Member #4450
12-23-07, 04:08
So how often do the chicas imply they do unprotected sex when you ask?
Very good question!
The good news is 99.9% said they would not do anything without a condom, but there's a few street walkers that offered me when walking the track!
Stay away from the druggies, and some older paraditas the no so good looking, they will do all kind of crazy stuff for money, but you never know, even a good clean girl on the wall can do whatever for the right price, but lucky for us most girls use rubbers, I don't trust some of the old women you find in bars or the wall ,these girls in the mid 30s or more, they just can't compete with younger girls and some will do unprotected sex, most offers I got were from these bunch!
Most will offer BBBJ which I think is still somehow safe, I don't know I'm not a doctor!
Country John
12-23-07, 19:26
Thanks for the insight CJ. It definately sounds like the lack of support from the Feds will continue to have tragic results for the local police. It is surely a bad sign when thugs feel brazen enough to shoot up a police station.
One thing to keep in mind about law enforcement in general and their responses: the bad guys have all day, all week or all month to plan their caper. Sometimes they have all year. Some capers were in the planning sages for years.
When they go down, the cops usually have about "0" time to react and during that time they have to assess the stuation and try to remove any danger in it, foil the caper and get the bad guys. That's a tall order when yu are working against a bad guy who has the luxury of planning every move.
The cops try to anticipate the bad guy and what moves he'll make, hence the trainng that never covers every possible scenerio, and the equipment that looks like it was made on Mars. Cops don't grow up until after a year or two on the street. Even then some don't make it a career. Those that do face the reality that getting killed at work is something that can happen to any of them. Try dealing with that over your starbucks eh?
In Mexico, you have all of the above AND the fact that the bad guys are quite possibly ex cops or ex military who know tactics and weapons. They got the cops out-gunned and they are obviously good at tactics. Believing that departments like Rosarito have no members on the SWAT team isn't much of a reach. But the local departments are not charged with dealing with the organized crime or the drug trade; that's the responsibility of the Federal Government and the military who have been asleep at the wheel as far as I'm concerned, and I'm a nobody.
Out-classed and out-gunned. They don't have a prayer. Well, maybe a prayer but that's always after the fact. City departments can do nothing more than take cover and give the bad guys what they want. Those that shoot back are, in reality, fools.
Calderon needs to get the military in here big tine, he needs to organize an assasination squad to go out there are cut the legs out from under this organization until there are no more legs and then rule drugs and crime with an iron fist.
Country John
D Cooper76
12-23-07, 23:05
Well yesterday I got to the border around 3pm, and decided to walk to the zona instead of taking a cab. It was the first time that I had walked and it wasn’t all that difficult. At first I wasn’t too sure of my bearings and there was this older guy walking next to me and I thought ‘I bet this guy is a monger, I should ask him for the best route to the zona.’ But I decided against it and sure enough I got a little lost on my way to the zona, too much rubber necking all the stores on Revolucion I guess. Anyway I finally recognized the sign for Hong Kong and knew that I had arrived. I made a bee-line for Adelitas and who should I see when I walk in? That older guy I had seen earlier at the border, he was already relaxing in a booth with a cold beer in one hand and a chica in the other, and here I am just arriving and sweating a little from my protracted trek. Oh well, makes for a funny story nonetheless.
Many hours later when I walked back to the border, I was shocked at the size of the line. I guess I had lucked out on all my previous trips, I’ve never had much of a wait at the border. This time it was insane, there were guys offering to drive people across for 5 dollars but I was totally tapped out, damn the luck. Oh well, over an hour later I was on the 5 north.
Smut Villain
12-24-07, 20:06
One thing to keep in mind about law enforcement in general and their responses: the bad guys have all day, all week or all month to plan their caper. Sometimes they have all year. Some capers were in the planning sages for years.
When they go down, the cops usually have about "0" time to react and during that time they have to assess the stuation and try to remove any danger in it, foil the caper and get the bad guys. That's a tall order when yu are working against a bad guy who has the luxury of planning every move.
The cops try to anticipate the bad guy and what moves he'll make, hence the trainng that never covers every possible scenerio, and the equipment that looks like it was made on Mars. Cops don't grow up until after a year or two on the street. Even then some don't make it a career. Those that do face the reality that getting killed at work is something that can happen to any of them. Try dealing with that over your starbucks eh?
In Mexico, you have all of the above AND the fact that the bad guys are quite possibly ex cops or ex military who know tactics and weapons. They got the cops out-gunned and they are obviously good at tactics. Believing that departments like Rosarito have no members on the SWAT team isn't much of a reach. But the local departments are not charged with dealing with the organized crime or the drug trade; that's the responsibility of the Federal Government and the military who have been asleep at the wheel as far as I'm concerned, and I'm a nobody.
Out-classed and out-gunned. They don't have a prayer. Well, maybe a prayer but that's always after the fact. City departments can do nothing more than take cover and give the bad guys what they want. Those that shoot back are, in reality, fools.
Calderon needs to get the military in here big tine, he needs to organize an assasination squad to go out there are cut the legs out from under this organization until there are no more legs and then rule drugs and crime with an iron fist.
Country John
Well said, CJ (as usual). But I don't think it'll ever happen. Who says that Calderon isn't on the take, like every other TJ official? During the time I lived in Mexico I learned quickly that La Mordita is a way of life and simply considered a normal "business expense" for those wishing to operate enterprises south of the border (both legal and illegal).
Country John
12-26-07, 01:32
Just got in from a trip to the Zona delivering some presents. Yes, there is Christmas Pussy and the clubs are open. The maseros are so fucking desperate, they're trying to sell each other drinks.
Mostly chicas de campo types in the alley. Few gringos but they have the pick of the litter, what little there is.
LOTS of police activity. They are either conducting free tours of the Zona Norte from the back of the 1/2 tons or they are rounding up rateros like there is no tomorrow. Few cars parked down by CC, I had the entire street to myself.
Again, merry Christmas Mongers.
Jingle Bells.
Country John
Petite Penis
12-26-07, 06:27
First off, thanks to all of the veterans who provided such invaluable information. Second, sorry for the length of this report.
Arrival: I parked in the parking lot up the hill behind the Jack in the Box. $5 for 8 hours doesn't seem too bad. Walked across the pedestrian walkway over the border itself. Went through the two sets of metal cattle herding rotating doors. There were barely any people around. I didn't see any police either. Walked past McDonalds and over to the Taxi Libre line and was surprised that there was no one in line and only one taxi waiting. He dropped me off right in front of Adelitas. $5-Parking; $6-Taxi + tip
Adelitas: Wow, 230PM on Christmas Day means absolutely no girls. There was one girl dancing, two standing way in the back corner and about 3 sitting with mongers. There were about 25+ mongers. Ordered my water and sat through a couple of dancers. All of them had about the same body type, a little thick with B/C size cups. After each dance, the girls would walk around for tips. I tipped them $1 and got a good squeeze of their boobies and a kiss on my cheek. At one point, Angela came over and sat with me. She seemed very nice so I bought her a drink. She was a little older than what I would look for but she did have bigger natural boobs. She stroked my little thimble a little bit while I squeezed her boobies. Declined her request for a trip upstairs so I could see if there were any other talent. After the same girls came up to dance again, I left.
$10-2 Waters for me +tip; $9-Drink for her +tip
Hong Kong: I was hoping HK would be better. It was, by just a little. It's a nice touch that they have 2 girls dancing on the right, near the customers, as well as on the main stage. Ordered my water and sat down in the mini-booths to the right. There was a beautiful girl dancing on the side but was stopped mid-way as one of the waiters pulled her to a customer. They were making out within 5 minutes. I should have done that. The girl on stage was very skinny and had no boobs but she could dance. Later on, she even did a dance where she poured beer all over her and where she suspended her self and stuck a lit candle in her poonani. I like the strip club type atmosphere so I went and sat at the stage for dances from other girls. After a couple more girls of the same type that I'm not into so I just wasn't feeling it and left.
$10-2 waters for me +tip
Adelitas: Went back hoping that some more girls might have come back. Once again, all the hot girls were already sitting with the mongers so I sat down and ordered a water. Adelitas seems pretty clean, including the bathroom. Angela came out from the Damas area and sat with me. We negotiated $60 for BJ and multiple positions. Noticed that one police officer walked in twice, once to use the bathroom and once to just walk around the front area. $5-1 water for me +tip
Angela: Paid for the room. She spread the sheet over the entired bed. While we were undressing, she said she has "specials" only if I want them: BJ without condom, BBBJCIM, Anal but no sex without condom. I declined them all. She gave me the towel, broke the soap in half and asked me to wash my hands and my little marshmellow. The last several things have made me feel a little better about her. I took some pics of her and then we got down to business. She put the condom on my little mushroom using her mouth. She wrapped her legs over mine and we started with reverse cowgirl with me just squeezing her boobies (sense a theme here? ). Finished with doggie while grabbing both boobies. Cleaned up and paid her for a fun time. On the way out, tipped the towel boy. $12-room; $65-Angela +tip; $1-tip towel boy
Departure: After exiting the hotel, went to the right past Adelitas to the Taco stand on the corner. Had 5 different tacos and hailed a Taxi Libre back to Linea Sentri. I was dropped off where all the taxis were and saw about 5 police officers. Walked to the border and there was no wait what-so-ever. The wait for cars was insane but at 5PM, no one in line. I walked right inside and only waited 3 minutes to see the Border Agent. He barely looked at my brand new passport and only asked me if I was bringing anything back. $6-5 tacos +tip; $6-taxi +tip
I'm going to have to come back on a Saturday night so I can find better hotties. I also want to try a massage place that gives a decent massage before the fun. Hopefully one of you guys can recommend a place.
TIP for my fellow newbies: Bring lots of $1 and $5 bills. It made my life a lot easier regarding buying drinks, tacos and tipping. No hassles or worrying about cheated on change.
Photos to go with this report in the Photo Gallery section:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=686045&postcount=402
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
bbbjcim!? Man why can't I ever find these women?
D:
Petite Penis
12-27-07, 05:31
LOL. I didn't want to pay an extra $20 nor did I even want a BBBJ.
bbbjcim!? Man why can't I ever find these women?
D:
Country John
12-27-07, 06:02
bbbjcim!? Man why can't I ever find these women?
D:
It's simple. When you enter Adelita Bar, just hold your wallet high above your head. You will be surrounded in no time.
Most of these "extras" can be negotiated of course. You just have to be willing to pay. While not all girls will provide the service, it won't take long to find someone who will.
Country John
I've asked many... none so far want to do any of that.
My main concern is that to negotiate with one of the girls, I have to sit her down and talk to her which obviously means I have to buy her a drink. And if she doesn't do those things I want I'm still out the price of a drink which are not cheap and the total accumulates fast. There is this one chica that I see a lot but I've never requested any of those things with her. And I've come to grow some respect for her and asking her now would seem like I'm insulting her if she wouldn't want to do those things and I'd probably even scare her away. The farthest thing I've gotten with her is to be able to cum on her tits. The first time I asked her she charged me more, but now she knows I expect it as part of the package deal and doesn't charge me anything extra for it.
I know I could simply ask these other chicas for the special requests without sitting them down, but I don't feel comfortable making all those negotiations the second I walk up to them. Seems so impersonal. I also don't like those girls that simply come up to me and just blurt out if I want to go upstairs with them. I like to get to know them a bit before we talk upstairs deal.
btw, John, think you can answer my questions at the Adelitas thread? I need those answered before new years comes!
LOL. I didn't want to pay an extra $20 nor did I even want a BBBJ.
$20 bucks for that extra deed? That doesn't sound too bad.
Now everytime I sit a chica down, I'm gonna start asking them, "So why should I chose you over the other chicas? What can you do for me that's better?" And see what they respond with.
Yeah, the bad guys don't like the cops getting into their shit. There are some interesting stats on police activity as it relates to organized crime (including narcos) and some government/law enforcement guys actually believe that the bad guys should not win. Too bad they don't have the support of the community.
The Federal Government of Mexico is not doing their part and local law enforcement is feeling the brunt of the organized crime resistance because protection of tourists and citizens is being left up to local law enforcement and that includes doing what they can to control the organized crime. They lack the training, equipment and resources to do the job and, again, the federal government is nowhere to be found.
Calderon needs to wake up.
Here is a link to a story that sums up what went down: http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/mexico/tijuana/20071220-9999-1m20station.html
If you stay out of the drug trade, away from the mess, you'll be out of the line of fire.
Be safe and be nice
Country John
Nasty business.
What *needs* to happen is for the US to legalize, zone and tax drugs. THAT would put these gangs of human debris out of business overnight.
PP
But think of the moral issues it will bring up and all the people that will be saying, "Won't someone please think of the children!"
Drugs are an epidemic from what I see. In my earlier years there was all this stuff on tv and in school about "staying away from drugs." I followed suit and thought many people did as well being a naive young guy I saw drugs as only being used by street alley junkies. But once I got out there into the real world, the amount of people that are into drug use, hooked or just as a social setting is mind bending. I've never used drugs of ANY kind to get high but like I said before, its amazing how many people do and yet are hypocrites because they're preaching all the time that "drugs are bad, mmkay?"
Country John
12-27-07, 16:53
I've asked many... none so far want to do any of that.
My main concern is that to negotiate with one of the girls, I have to sit her down and talk to her which obviously means I have to buy her a drink. And if she doesn't do those things I want I'm still out the price of a drink which are not cheap and the total accumulates fast. There is this one chica that I see a lot but I've never requested any of those things with her. And I've come to grow some respect for her and asking her now would seem like I'm insulting her if she wouldn't want to do those things and I'd probably even scare her away. The farthest thing I've gotten with her is to be able to cum on her tits. The first time I asked her she charged me more, but now she knows I expect it as part of the package deal and doesn't charge me anything extra for it.
I know I could simply ask these other chicas for the special requests without sitting them down, but I don't feel comfortable making all those negotiations the second I walk up to them. Seems so impersonal. I also don't like those girls that simply come up to me and just blurt out if I want to go upstairs with them. I like to get to know them a bit before we talk upstairs deal.
btw, John, think you can answer my questions at the Adelitas thread? I need those answered before new years comes!
$20 bucks for that extra deed? That doesn't sound too bad.
Now everytime I sit a chica down, I'm gonna start asking them, "So why should I chose you over the other chicas? What can you do for me that's better?" And see what they respond with.
You DO NOT have to buy a drink for a girl. Adelitas is a business. The girls are there to have sex for money. Negotiating extras is part of the game. Buy yourself a drink. Don't waste your money on drinks for the girls.
Don't worry about "insulting" them or hurting their feelings. They are there to fuck. So fuck them. If they do not offer what you want, move on. Money talks and if you interview enough girls, you'll find one who will offer what you're looking for.
It's "fun" sometimes having the girl sit with you as you blow wads on drinks for her. She makes money on every drink so will not object.
Do not concern yourself about whether her feelings are hurt or if you insult her. Of course treat everyone with respect and be nice, but get it through your head that it's a BUSINESS. You will pay dearly for sex at Adelitas, you pay for the room, you pay tips you pay for your drinks. Let her buy her own unless you WANT to spend your money on drinks.
The cost of three three at Adelitas will get you laid in the alley. Remember that.
Country John
But think of the moral issues it will bring up and all the people that will be saying, "Won't someone please think of the children!"
Drugs are an epidemic from what I see. In my earlier years there was all this stuff on tv and in school about "staying away from drugs." I followed suit and thought many people did as well being a naive young guy I saw drugs as only being used by street alley junkies. But once I got out there into the real world, the amount of people that are into drug use, hooked or just as a social setting is mind bending. I've never used drugs of ANY kind to get high but like I said before, its amazing how many people do and yet are hypocrites because they're preaching all the time that "drugs are bad, mmkay?"
Right, very hypocritical.
I have never taken illegal drugs and have never advocated their use. However, I believe (Libertarian that I am) that the Feds are supposed to be limited to what's explicitly stated in the constitution. And keeping you from using drugs doesn't seem to be in there, no matter how hard I've looked.
If you wanna inject heroin into your arm, fine by me. Keep it off the street and off my front lawn. And don't expect me to use my tax money to dry your sorry ass out once you're a junkie.
But drugs are a commodity and are subject to the laws of supply and demand. Legalization will bring the price down by injecting more competition into the marketplace, will improve the quality, will put a LOT of very bad people out of business, and generate tax money (hardly my first priority).
We saw the same thing with Prohibition, but nobody learned. But, today, you'd be hard pressed to find gangsters killing cops over liquor distribution rights, and Ernest & Julio Gallo haven't corrupted the political infrastructure of any country's government. :-)
Sorry for the rant. The whole nanny-state mindset seems to permeate everything these days.
PP
You DO NOT have to buy a drink for a girl. Adelitas is a business. The girls are there to have sex for money. Negotiating extras is part of the game. Buy yourself a drink. Don't waste your money on drinks for the girls.
Don't worry about "insulting" them or hurting their feelings. They are there to fuck. So fuck them. If they do not offer what you want, move on. Money talks and if you interview enough girls, you'll find one who will offer what you're looking for.
It's "fun" sometimes having the girl sit with you as you blow wads on drinks for her. She makes money on every drink so will not object.
Do not concern yourself about whether her feelings are hurt or if you insult her. Of course treat everyone with respect and be nice, but get it through your head that it's a BUSINESS. You will pay dearly for sex at Adelitas, you pay for the room, you pay tips you pay for your drinks. Let her buy her own unless you WANT to spend your money on drinks.
The cost of three three at Adelitas will get you laid in the alley. Remember that.
Country John
As far as I know, having them sit with me means that I have to buy them a drink or else they are not allowed to sit with me. Or maybe they just tell me that. But I have seen girls sitting with guys with no drinks in hand.
And I am a bit concerned about insulting them cause in a way, I'm not just there to "fuck" but also make some friends. And I think that if I insult one, she will tell the others and even make stuff up and I'll become "the guy to stay away from." I know I'm just looking too deep into this but thats just me.
Wtf is, "three three?"
As far as I know, having them sit with me means that I have to buy them a drink or else they are not allowed to sit with me. Or maybe they just tell me that. But I have seen girls sitting with guys with no drinks in hand.
And I am a bit concerned about insulting them cause in a way, I'm not just there to "fuck" but also make some friends. And I think that if I insult one, she will tell the others and even make stuff up and I'll become "the guy to stay away from." I know I'm just looking too deep into this but thats just me.
Wtf is, "three three?"
The cost of "three" drinks at AB(about $25) = the cost of an alley girl plus room(on the low end). Its usually a good idea to buy at least one drink for the girls; when you sit down with down for conversation. Too much penny pinching takes the fun out of it; it's better to save/bring enough money to spend in the bars; it just makes for a more relaxing and comfortable trip. Do you know what I mean?
Too much penny pinching takes the fun out of it; it's better to save/bring enough money to spend in the bars; it just makes for a more relaxing and comfortable trip. Do you know what I mean?
Absolutely!
Country John
12-28-07, 06:40
The cost of "three" drinks at AB(about $25) = the cost of an alley girl plus room(on the low end). Its usually a good idea to buy at least one drink for the girls; when you sit down with down for conversation. Too much penny pinching takes the fun out of it; it's better to save/bring enough money to spend in the bars; it just makes for a more relaxing and comfortable trip. Do you know what I mean?
If you got it, spend it. If your money can't do this for you then your money ain't no good.
I am not saying DON'T buy the drink, I'm saying that it is not a requirement of the club, nor should you feel obligated.
I don't want to come off as a jerk, but remember guys that these are wh*res. You need not concern yourself that you will be blacklisted or not thought well of unless you are a downright 4th level asshole. Then you deserve it. But the girls want to go arriba to make money, and then they want you to buy fichas for them between sessions.
Nothing wrong with socializing, nothing wrong with buying a girl a drink to see what she does with her rack. I don't mind dirty feet as long as I got that big smile happening.
Dont feel like you have to buy every girl that says "BOO" a drink however. They play that game too.
Be safe and be nice
Country John
Absolutely!Buying drinks for every chica that asks is going to be expensive but I see nothing wrong with buying a couple. I usually buy drinks for the chicas I have known for a while.
Whosurdaty
12-30-07, 09:26
Anyone heading down on the 30th or 31st? Are the passport laws still changing on the 1st?
Not sure if this was already posted but here is a vid of outside of Adelitas. Surprised the police didn't stop the guy from using his camera in the Zona Norte and even let him get away with recording this event and them.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=COomOt_INn8
As for the passports, far as I know, requiring them to get through the Tj border begining Jan 1st 2008, has been postponed indefinitely. I'm gonna take mines anyway just for good measure.
Sunset Strip
12-30-07, 22:29
Anyone heading down on the 30th or 31st? Are the passport laws still changing on the 1st?
I will be in TJ on the 31st. They have postponed the ground border passport requirement as the last poster said.
I will post on the girls I see tomorrow!
Oh yeah, if you get up to the border gate and see a rather large, white guy, with white hair and glasses, GET OUT OF HIS LINE! This guy checks every bag people have and then runs every ID. Of course, it takes a long time to find info. on some people in line. I was there recently and had only 10 people in front of me but stood in line over 30 minutes! Normally 10 people are out of there in under 5 minutes!
This guy actually walks every person with a bag over to the screener machine behind him!
TJ
Thanks for the tip about the fat guy, I'll be sure and try avoiding him. I'll be down there for the 31st as well just like teajayfunaddict. I'd meet you down there and give you a high five but I think it'd be a bit awkward, at least for me. That's why I like the anonimity of the net. So instead I'll give you a high five here.
*Virtual high five!*
It's weird cause while I like going to Tj for some fun, I hate that its literally a mission just to get there. It's not just the drive but preparing for it the day before, that includes doing a check up on my car. At times I wish it wasn't so far away, but then I like that it is cause if it wasn't, I'd be going every weekend. Knowing how far it is discourages me which is good otherwise I'd be blowing all my money there. Plus since its such a long way from home, its also not easy for anyone else I know to get there. Cause I would be totally embarrased running into someone I know while I was in the Red Zone.
Sunset Strip
12-31-07, 00:07
Efjayel,
I hear you about remaining anonymous. If I meet somebody while in TJ then sometimes I hang out with them, but this is rare. I have only made one (male) friend in the last 6 years while in TJ. I think it is best to just go down alone and enjoy yourself. Otherwise, you bring TJ back to you in the states and the two do not mix. Keeping your fun on one side and work on another is a good idea.
Next week I think I may actually just hole-up in some hotel in TJ, probably Pueblo Amigo, for a few days and just run back in forth from the hotel to the zona by cab. Then on day three I will leave.
have fun. i may actually post o this site from TJ. There is an internet spot near the HSBC bank on Revolution.
TJ
Where is that hotel? I was thinking of getting a room tommorrow for after the party. I just don't know where a good one is at. Where is that Pablo Amiga hotel located and how much for a night?
Sunset Strip
12-31-07, 00:35
Pueblo Amigo is located near the border. You see it when you are on the bridge walking back to the border.
TJ
expedia listing (PA is third or fourth)
http://www.expedia.com/pub/agent.dll?qscr=htwv&from=m&stat=1&khst=1&locn=Tijuana%2C+Baja+California+Norte%2C+Mexico&date1=1/4/2008&date2=1/6/2008&cadu1=1&crom=1&rdct=1&rfrr=-905
Here is the link to the reservation page for Hotel Pueblo Amigo https://reservations.ihotelier.com/onescreen.cfm?hotelid=10278&languageid=1
I don't know if this is allowed but if not (sorry Jackson) I will PM it to you. I figured I'd post it in case others wanted it. I stayed there earlier this year and it served my purpose just fine. Friendly staff. It was not immaculate but not bad. I am still looking for the hotel that I keep seeing listed when I read the escort reviews. It's called La Mansion. Anyone know if there is a website for them? Country do you know?
DP
Hey guys,
I plan to give Tijuana a quick visit when I'm in San Diego for 2 days. It will be my first time in Tijuana and from all the posts about police and criminality I suppose it wouldn't be a bad idea to find someone who could show me around. I'd be more than happy to spend a few bucks on some beers for that.
I'll probably visit on Tuesday or Wednesday (only possible dates) January 22/23.
Thanks in advance, this board already provided some useful information.
Country John
12-31-07, 07:17
Here is the link to the reservation page for Hotel Pueblo Amigo https://reservations.ihotelier.com/onescreen.cfm?hotelid=10278&languageid=1
I don't know if this is allowed but if not (sorry Jackson) I will PM it to you. I figured I'd post it in case others wanted it. I stayed there earlier this year and it served my purpose just fine. Friendly staff. It was not immaculate but not bad. I am still looking for the hotel that I keep seeing listed when I read the escort reviews. It's called La Mansion. Anyone know if there is a website for them? Country do you know?
DP
The reason you never saw it is because it's in the opposite direction fom La Zona. Correct me if I am wrong: its about $30 for 4 hours. But it's worth the price.
La Mansion is nice short term place to take a girlie. The girls like it there too. It's a bit expensive but a very very nice and classy "love motel."
It's about 5 miles South on the Via Rapida, just before the Otay/Airport cut-off. It's a $5.00 cab ride from the Zona and they will bring a girl to the room or you can bring your own. Credit cards gladly accepted. Have good ID. Very tight security.
It's a place where no expense was spared to put a nice room together. You'll like it. So will she.
Country John
John, What hotel would you recommend to spend the night in near or in the Zona Norte? Or should I stay away completely from crashing in any of those hotels?
I read some reviews on another site and it sounded like a cabana but the guys kept calling it a "hotel"...lol. It's description is like some of the cabanas in the DR (and other places I'm sure). I will be sure to check that out when I come down.
Wait...they will bring you a girl? They have a selection book there? Wow, as different as it is around the world, some things are the same!
I'll be there the 10th and leave on the 12th. Short trip to kill some extra comp. days at work. I'll watch the board to see if any other ISG members will be there. We should be easy to find now since we will all be well dressed! I like that idea and although I'm trying to pack very light I will bring dress/casual stuff and leave the flip-flops home...LOL.
DP
Country John
01-01-08, 05:28
Happy 2008. Be safe and be nice.
Counry John
Was down in Tj this past Sunday the 30th. I got there late, around 7:00 p.m.. Not only was I late, I forgot the bring my pesos from my last trip. Around mx$2,000.
I had about $60.00 usd in my wallet but knew it wouldn't last too long. Even though it was dark, I walked to Revolution ave. I went to the hsbc bank to get some pesos. Not sure if it was because it was a Sunday, or it was just out of money, but both atms were not working.
I then went to the banamex on 2nd street. There were two atms there, but only one was working. There were a couple of shady characters in line so I decided to find another atm. I walked to two banks near 4th and 5th street, but they both had lines and walked to the other hsbc just past 6th street. Finally, no line. The reason there was no line, the doors to the atms were locked. I guess this branch is not 24 hours.
Now what to do? I go back to Revolution and walk to Sanborns, I believe it is on the corner of 7th and Rev.. But then again, it might have been 8th street. As I was walking, I notice that Las Pulgas was open. I thought I had read that it had closed down. At least on this night, it was open.
I get to Sanborns and wouldn't you know it. Both atm there are not working. Somthing about a connection. I'am thinking, this is not my day, maybe I will just go back home. As I'am walking heading towards the arch, I past by the Jai Alai ( sp ) and see an atm open in a booth. I go in and surprise, I was able to get money out. Now a happy camper, I set off for the zona.
On the way there, I past by viva max. I read the post about this place, knowing it was legit, a message sounded great. The massage I got was 45 minutes for $25.00 usd. It was wonderful. The name of my masseuse was Karin. Very cute and gave a great massage. I gave her a mx $100.00 tip. Well worth the money. I think this will be a regular stop on all future visits.
From there I walk to the zona, first stop l/c., this place had about 10-15 girls there, non that I wanted to do. Didn't stop to have a drink and walked straight to t/b.. Not to many girls there either but there were at least two, that I would have done. Unfortunately both were occupied. I had a drink, and since the two that I would have done were still busy, I headed over to the alley. I finally did an alley girl, the report will be in that section.
After the alley girl, I went into h/k. Not too busy there either. There were a couple of girls I would do, but after the alley girl, I just wanted to chill. After a drink, I headed over to a/b.. The guys definitely out-numbered the girls. It looked more like a sausage fest, than a bordello. Took my walk around and left. Time for some grub, headed to the taco stand, the one on the same side of the street as c/c. I like their tacos because they dip the totillas into a soup before warming them up. For some reason, it makes the tacos taste better.
Now stuffed, I head into c/c.. Again not much going on, and it is pretty late, so I don't think anymore girls will be showing up. I walk back to h/k, of course the girls I want are taken. I have a drink and say to myself. If the one of the girls gets free before I finish my drink, I will take her up, otherwise, it will be time to go home.
I finish my drink, the girls are still occupied, time to head out. Bad news is, my little head doesn't want to leave. He wants to stick his head into the deep, one last time. I head back to t/b.. Both the girls I was eyeballing earlier were still taken, but now sitting with someone else. I was so horny at this time, I see a little homely girl sitting at one of the tables.
Because it was so late, I went off my game plan. At the clubs, I usually buy a girl a drink, just so I can get a good or bad vibe from the girl. With this girl, I just asked if she wanted to go upstairs. Big mistake.
Her name is Dulce, short flaca with black hair. Once upstairs she try rushing things. When I tried daty, she said it would be another $10.00. No kissing, no fun. I had a better time with the alley girl. Oh well, at least in the future, I will stick to my game plan and interview the girls in the bar.
Also, about the question earlier about La Mansion. I believe the 4 hour limit, unless changed recently, only applies on Fridays and Saturday. The rest of the week for the same price, you can have the room for 8 hours. It is more expensive but the rooms are very nice and clean. They also have room service. Hope this helps.
I see in some other posts that a passport is not going to be required after Jan. 1. Is this true? Does anybody have a link to the Feds' web site with this info? (Cuz I'm too friggin' lazy to look).
I need to send my passport off to get more pages, and I don't know how long that'll take. I hate to put off a visit to TJ while waiting for the PP, and, now, maybe I won't have to.
The last visit, I asked the border guy about the '08 requirements, but he was non-commital. I'm not sure what we pay these guys to do, but finding evil people crossing the border to do evil things, doesn't appear to be one of them. Maybe the chairs in the border station need to be kept warm?
PP
I got an e-mail from someone saying the same thing. 4 hours Friday and Saturday and at least 8 hours or overnight the rest of the week. I will be going there at least once and get the exact info. If you guys are interested, I'll take some pics too.
Happy New Year to all!
DP
Ninguno Especial
01-01-08, 17:52
I see in some other posts that a passport is not going to be required after Jan. 1. Is this true? Does anybody have a link to the Feds' web site with this info? (Cuz I'm too friggin' lazy to look).
PP
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cbpmc/cbpmc_2223.html
Super Gato
01-01-08, 18:32
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cbpmc/cbpmc_2223.html
That page hasn't been updated to reflect that Congress has passed legislation saying passports will not be required until at least June 2009.
HOWEVER, the border stations are still going to require a driver's license AND a birth certificate or other proof of citizenship beginning January 31, 2008. Or you can use your passport.
On Monday, State Department and DHS announced its design for the new border card -- a special wallet sized passport -- that can be used at the land/sea crossings only. Details on how to get the card will be available this spring.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/nation/5414351.html
This card will be more convenient than the full sized passport and can help you protect your passport from getting damaged when you're traveling to the Mexican/Canadian border. However, it will probably take several months to get the program started so using your birth certificate or a regular starting in February will probably be the best.
Then again, I'm betting the birth certificate requirement will be suspended/canceled.
Well I passed(walked) through the border January 1st at about 1:30am and wasn't asked for a passport. The only thing the guys asked me what my citizenship was so I handed him my permanent resident card. He scanned it, handed it back and I walked through. No need for a passport. No one else in line showed one either.
That page hasn't been updated to reflect that Congress has passed legislation saying passports will not be required until at least June 2009.
HOWEVER, the border stations are still going to require a driver's license AND a birth certificate or other proof of citizenship beginning January 31, 2008. Or you can use your passport.
On Monday, State Department and DHS announced its design for the new border card -- a special wallet sized passport -- that can be used at the land/sea crossings only. Details on how to get the card will be available this spring.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/nation/5414351.html
This card will be more convenient than the full sized passport and can help you protect your passport from getting damaged when you're traveling to the Mexican/Canadian border. However, it will probably take several months to get the program started so using your birth certificate or a regular starting in February will probably be the best.
Then again, I'm betting the birth certificate requirement will be suspended/canceled.
Thanx! I knew about the Drivers' License and Birth Certificate thing, but it sounded like maybe they'd done away with that, too.
I really don't wanna lug around a certified copy of my BC. Sheesh! I guess I'll just go w/the passport until they get their sh*t together.
PP
Thanx! I knew about the Drivers' License and Birth Certificate thing, but it sounded like maybe they'd done away with that, too.
I really don't wanna lug around a certified copy of my BC. Sheesh! I guess I'll just go w/the passport until they get their sh*t together.PP,
I just crossed La Linea last night with only a Drivers License and the border guard hardly blinked. I had my passport with me just in case, but looks like it's true about additional proof being in limbo.
Also, previously in December I asked a border guard if an old passport would work, and he said that'd be fine too. Nice to know since if you lose it, it's not a big deal, whereas if you lose a valid one.
I just got back from TJ and here is what I saw and heard.
One of the biggest mistakes I made was doing the stroll around the block looking for the cutest one. That took me forever to try to decide. So if I saw one that looked decent and wasn’t chunky I grabbed her. I saw one really plain looking gal with a decent body. Should have grabbed her because I bet she would have been a bargain and really worked it.
I would say half the street women were dead fish and just lied there with legs spread. Most would give head. A lot of the women once they got back to the room wanted more to give head. I picked up one cute blonde and asked how much and is that todo. She said yes but her todo was just taking off all her clothing and she didn’t give head.
Saw a lot of chicas that dressed up as school girls with visible thongs, which was pretty hot. Some wore way too much makeup and it was a turn off. Saw a few grannies but not a lot.
Saw lots of police all over the place. Every so often they would stop and grab someone off the street. I never saw them hassle any gringos. One time on a taxi ride back to the border my driver spoke English. As we were going along we came across three police cars that stopped and they stepped out all wearing black mask and had automatic weapons. The driver told me that violence was getting out of hand. One time when he was driving he saw a shoot out in front of him. He also told me that after dark do not walk back to the border. Sometimes there are robbers waiting in the dark shadows. One time at night I did walk from the border to the zone. I saw very few people walking and with the shadows on the cement buildings it looked very scary.
Spent some time in the Hong Kong club, which I thought was a waste.
Went into Adelitas and all I can say is oh my god. Everyone must go there at least once. The daytime is ok but at night it is incredible. There are some silicone sisters but wow the place is filled with lookers. Most of them don’t paw at you and you can joke around with them and the prices of the drinks are not bad.
I also want to try a massage place that gives a decent massage before the fun. Hopefully one of you guys can recommend a place.
I saw it posted elsewhere, but VivaMex on Revolucion is a good real massage place. Not sure if there are any extras (never seen or asked), but they give US quality massages for $25 for 45 min.
They also offer $35 for 1hr, but technically that's more expensive, so I've always opted for the 45 mins. Guess I'm a cheap bastard.
Does anyone know of a good pool/bar hall close to the zona? Might be a good pre-zona stop for me sometimes. Thanks.
PP,
I just crossed La Linea last night with only a Drivers License and the border guard hardly blinked. I had my passport with me just in case, but looks like it's true about additional proof being in limbo.
Also, previously in December I asked a border guard if an old passport would work, and he said that'd be fine too. Nice to know since if you lose it, it's not a big deal, whereas if you lose a valid one.
Thanx! I'll give it a try. Of course, with my luck, that'd be the day they decide to enforce the law, and make an example of some schmuck sex tourist! ;-)
PP
I found this information on the US Department of States website...
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cbpmc/cbpmc_2223.html#compliant_document
and here's information from the Homeland Security website...
http://www.dhs.gov/xnews/releases/pr_1182350422171.shtm
It looks like after Jan 31st of 2008 that you can use your drivers license but you will also have to have proof of citizenship, such as a birth certificate with you. I hope this information is helpful!!!
Starphucker
01-04-08, 10:13
Has anyone stayed at the Pueblo Amigo Hotel in TJ. If so, can you tell me what the rates are? Also, has anybody been to the club directly next door to the Pueblo Amigo? It is supposed to have the hottest ladies in TJ. Any info would be helpful.
Starphucker
Sunset Strip
01-04-08, 20:10
We just posted a little discussion about Pueblo Amigo on this same thread around 12/30/07. There are two web links: 1.) the hotel website 2.) expedia, which has current rates.
later,
TJ
Has anyone stayed at the Pueblo Amigo Hotel in TJ. If so, can you tell me what the rates are? Also, has anybody been to the club directly next door to the Pueblo Amigo? It is supposed to have the hottest ladies in TJ. Any info would be helpful.Never stayed at the Pueblo Amigo, but I've hung out at their bar area. From the lobby area it looks very much like a US styled hotel. Layout reminded me of an Embassy Suites lobby but not as nice.
As for the place next door, if you're talking about Luxor (massage), it's ok. Compared to the likes of Purple Rain, Mermaids, etc I think they run a better business (options for 2 girls, cleaner jacuzzi, etc). But all of them are going to run you a lot more than what AB or CC are going to cost you. (Curiousity got the best of me ;) ).
Occassionally Luxor had a couple of hotties, and GFE was to be had if you happen to connect with one of them (if you do, take the option of showering with them off the clock). But you're still talking ~$40-55 to the house for 45-60 min and then whatever the girl charges. It's been a while, but I was charged $80 by my fav there during the afternoons which is slow, seems like the other places Purple Rain, etc either charge more or I got a discount (time of day, repeat business, etc). At the time, the cleanliness there (place and girls) appealed to me, as well the thought that these girls weren't busy so they'd only be seeing perhaps 2-3 guys a day (non-Fri/Sat). Now that was about 2 years ago, so slow business could have cut into the quantity/quality of girls, or for whatever reason there's a shift in their popularity and then there might be some good quality there now. I don't know. But if someone told you from a recent 1st hand experience then check it out if you're curious (just dont trust any cabbie!).
For me, it was always nice to have an option if I didn't find anything at AB during the day, to take a quick look over at Luxor for a nice last chance before walking over to the border. Btw, Pueblo Amigo is close enough to walk to the border (7-8 min from the normal taxi drop off) if you want to save yourself a little cab fare. From AB to Pueblo Amigo/Luxor should only cost you $5.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Thanx! I'll give it a try. Of course, with my luck, that'd be the day they decide to enforce the law, and make an example of some schmuck sex tourist! ;-)PP,
One thing a border guard said to me that was interesting. In talking about the vagueness of the new requirements he said, "Legally there is nothing that can prevent a US citizen from re-entering his own country except for some criminal reason." So the gist I got from that guard is they might hassle you, delay you but at least he wouldn't keep you out of the country.
Remember, if you know your rights things will go a lot smoother.
Besides worse to worse, the passport requirement for sea entry won't go into effect until 2009. You could always hit La Playa and swim for it! ;)
are the two reports Star. The place next door did have some pretty girls outside whenever I wandered by but my buddy and I never went in. We asked the guys in the hotel about it the night before we left and they said it was ok. These guys were pretty cool and looked out for us the few days we were there. I think they were genuine in their opinion and by no means "pressured" us to go. I'm going to TJ next Thursday and was going to try to stop in and check it out so I can tell my buddy about it. If I go I will be sure to post something.
DP
CJ or anyone else,
Do you guys know of some good restaurants in TJ? Perhaps upscale (by TJ standards) or with good ambiance. I heard Ochoa is pretty good and it has a piano bar, but it was closed when I went over there. I drove over to La Playa, and at least the street closest to the beach was kind of a dump (by US standards). Someone needs to built a Cheescake Factory there. Some of the apartments has signs for some cheap rent though.
Be careful out there! See the news report.
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080105/mexico_frightened_tourists.html
Happy New Year fellow-Mongers.
I saw this article regarding the recent drop in tourism into the northern Baja area which I thought would be of interest to you. Nothing new, but just keep vigilant out there. As a side note I will be posting my Hot Fox/Anthonys experience from the holidays in the Ensenada forum.
Tourists Shun Crime-Hit Mexico Beaches
Saturday January 5, 1:24 PM EST
PLAYAS DE ROSARITO, Mexico (AP) — Assaults on American tourists have brought hard times to hotels and restaurants that dot Mexican beaches just south of the border from San Diego.
Surfers and kayakers are frightened to hit the waters of the northern stretch of Mexico's Baja California peninsula, long popular as a weekend destination for U.S. tourists. Weddings have been canceled. Lobster joints a few steps from the Pacific were almost empty on the usually busy New Year's weekend.
Americans have long tolerated shakedowns by police who boost salaries by pulling over motorists for alleged traffic violations, and tourists know parts of Baja are a hotbed of drug-related violence. But a handful of attacks since summer by masked, armed bandits — some of whom used flashing lights to appear like police — marks a new extreme that has spooked even longtime visitors.
Lori Hoffman, a San Diego-area emergency room nurse, said she was sexually assaulted Oct. 23 by two masked men in front of her boyfriend, San Diego Surfing Academy owner Pat Weber, who was forced to kneel at gunpoint for 45 minutes. They were at a campground with about 30 tents, some 200 miles south of the border.
The men shot out windows of the couple's trailer and forced their way inside, ransacked the cupboards and left with about $7,000 worth of gear, including computers, video equipment and a guitar.
Weber, who has taught dozens of students in Mexico over the last 10 years, plans to surf in Costa Rica or New Zealand. "No more Mexico," said Hoffman, who reported the attack to Mexican police. No arrests have been made.
The Baja California peninsula is known worldwide for clean and sparsely populated beaches, lobster and margaritas and blue waters visited by whales and dolphins. Surfers love the waves; fishermen catch tuna, yellowtail and marlin. Food and hotels are cheap.
News of harrowing assaults on American tourists has begun to overshadow that appeal in the northern part of the peninsula, home to drug gangs and the seedy border city of Tijuana. The comparatively isolated southern tip, with its tony Los Cabos resort, remains safer and is still popular with Hollywood celebrities, anglers and other foreign tourists.
Local media and surfing Web sites that trumpeted Baja in the past have reported several frightening crimes that U.S. and Mexican officials consider credible. Longtime visitors are particularly wary of a toll road near the border that runs through Playas de Rosarito — Rosarito Beach.
In late November, as they returned from the Baja 1000 off-road race, a San Diego-area family was pulled over on the toll road by a car with flashing lights. Heavily armed men held the family hostage for two hours. They eventually released them but stole the family's truck.
Before dawn on Aug. 31, three surfers were carjacked on the same stretch of highway. Gunmen pulled them over in a car with flashing lights, forced them out of their vehicles and ordered one to kneel. They took the trucks and left the surfers.
Aqua Adventures of San Diego scrapped its annual three-day kayak trip to scout for whales in January, ending a run of about 10 years. Customers had already been complaining about longer waits to return to the U.S.; crime gave them another reason to stay away.
"People are just saying, 'No way.' They don't want to deal with the risk," said owner Jen Kleck, who has sponsored trips to Baja about five times a year but hasn't been since July.
Charles Smith, spokesman for the U.S. consulate in Tijuana, said the U.S. government has not found a widespread increase in attacks against Americans, but he acknowledged many crimes go unreported. The State Department has long warned motorists on Mexico's border to watch for people following them, though no new warnings have been issued.
Mexican officials acknowledge crime has threatened a lifeblood of Baja's economy. In Playas de Rosarito, a city of 130,000, police were forced to surrender their weapons last month for testing to determine links to any crimes. Heavily armed men have patrolled City Hall since a failed assassination attempt on the new police chief left one officer dead. On Thursday the bullet-riddled bodies of a Tijuana police official and another man were found dumped near the beach.
"We cannot minimize what's happening to public safety," said Oscar Escobedo Carignan, Baja's new secretary of tourism. "We're going to impose order ... We're indignant about what's happening."
Tourist visits to Baja totaled about 18 million in 2007, down from 21 million the previous year, Escobedo said. Hotel occupancy dropped about 5 percentage points to 53 percent.
Hugo Torres, owner of the storied Rosarito Beach Hotel and the city's new mayor, estimates the number of visitors to Rosarito Beach since summer is down 30 percent.
In the city's Puerto Nuevo tourist enclave, which offers $20 lobster dinners and $1 margaritas, restaurant managers said sales were down as much as 80 percent from last year. One Saturday afternoon in October, masked bandits wielding pistols walked the streets and kidnapped two men — an American and a Spanish citizen — who were later released unharmed. Two people who were with them were shot and wounded.
Omar Armendariz, who manages a Puerto Nuevo lobster restaurant, is counting on the new state and city governments to make tourists feel safer. He has never seen fewer visitors in his nine years on the job.
"It's dead," he said.
I visited Tijuana a few time when I lived in the Southern California area a few years back and it was a lot of fun. I thought about going visiting further south of TJ but it sounds like it's not as safe as it used to be!
Happy New Year fellow-Mongers.
I saw this article regarding the recent drop in tourism into the northern Baja area which I thought would be of interest to you. Nothing new, but just keep vigilant out there. As a side note I will be posting my Hot Fox/Anthonys experience from the holidays in the Ensenada forum.
Tourists Shun Crime-Hit Mexico Beaches
Saturday January 5, 1:24 PM EST
PLAYAS DE ROSARITO, Mexico (AP) — Assaults on American tourists have brought hard times to hotels and restaurants that dot Mexican beaches just south of the border from San Diego.
Surfers and kayakers are frightened to hit the waters of the northern stretch of Mexico's Baja California peninsula, long popular as a weekend destination for U.S. tourists. Weddings have been canceled. Lobster joints a few steps from the Pacific were almost empty on the usually busy New Year's weekend.
Americans have long tolerated shakedowns by police who boost salaries by pulling over motorists for alleged traffic violations, and tourists know parts of Baja are a hotbed of drug-related violence. But a handful of attacks since summer by masked, armed bandits — some of whom used flashing lights to appear like police — marks a new extreme that has spooked even longtime visitors.
Lori Hoffman, a San Diego-area emergency room nurse, said she was sexually assaulted Oct. 23 by two masked men in front of her boyfriend, San Diego Surfing Academy owner Pat Weber, who was forced to kneel at gunpoint for 45 minutes. They were at a campground with about 30 tents, some 200 miles south of the border.
The men shot out windows of the couple's trailer and forced their way inside, ransacked the cupboards and left with about $7,000 worth of gear, including computers, video equipment and a guitar.
Weber, who has taught dozens of students in Mexico over the last 10 years, plans to surf in Costa Rica or New Zealand. "No more Mexico," said Hoffman, who reported the attack to Mexican police. No arrests have been made.
The Baja California peninsula is known worldwide for clean and sparsely populated beaches, lobster and margaritas and blue waters visited by whales and dolphins. Surfers love the waves; fishermen catch tuna, yellowtail and marlin. Food and hotels are cheap.
News of harrowing assaults on American tourists has begun to overshadow that appeal in the northern part of the peninsula, home to drug gangs and the seedy border city of Tijuana. The comparatively isolated southern tip, with its tony Los Cabos resort, remains safer and is still popular with Hollywood celebrities, anglers and other foreign tourists.
Local media and surfing Web sites that trumpeted Baja in the past have reported several frightening crimes that U.S. and Mexican officials consider credible. Longtime visitors are particularly wary of a toll road near the border that runs through Playas de Rosarito — Rosarito Beach.
In late November, as they returned from the Baja 1000 off-road race, a San Diego-area family was pulled over on the toll road by a car with flashing lights. Heavily armed men held the family hostage for two hours. They eventually released them but stole the family's truck.
Before dawn on Aug. 31, three surfers were carjacked on the same stretch of highway. Gunmen pulled them over in a car with flashing lights, forced them out of their vehicles and ordered one to kneel. They took the trucks and left the surfers.
Aqua Adventures of San Diego scrapped its annual three-day kayak trip to scout for whales in January, ending a run of about 10 years. Customers had already been complaining about longer waits to return to the U.S.; crime gave them another reason to stay away.
"People are just saying, 'No way.' They don't want to deal with the risk," said owner Jen Kleck, who has sponsored trips to Baja about five times a year but hasn't been since July.
Charles Smith, spokesman for the U.S. consulate in Tijuana, said the U.S. government has not found a widespread increase in attacks against Americans, but he acknowledged many crimes go unreported. The State Department has long warned motorists on Mexico's border to watch for people following them, though no new warnings have been issued.
Mexican officials acknowledge crime has threatened a lifeblood of Baja's economy. In Playas de Rosarito, a city of 130,000, police were forced to surrender their weapons last month for testing to determine links to any crimes. Heavily armed men have patrolled City Hall since a failed assassination attempt on the new police chief left one officer dead. On Thursday the bullet-riddled bodies of a Tijuana police official and another man were found dumped near the beach.
"We cannot minimize what's happening to public safety," said Oscar Escobedo Carignan, Baja's new secretary of tourism. "We're going to impose order ... We're indignant about what's happening."
Tourist visits to Baja totaled about 18 million in 2007, down from 21 million the previous year, Escobedo said. Hotel occupancy dropped about 5 percentage points to 53 percent.
Hugo Torres, owner of the storied Rosarito Beach Hotel and the city's new mayor, estimates the number of visitors to Rosarito Beach since summer is down 30 percent.
In the city's Puerto Nuevo tourist enclave, which offers $20 lobster dinners and $1 margaritas, restaurant managers said sales were down as much as 80 percent from last year. One Saturday afternoon in October, masked bandits wielding pistols walked the streets and kidnapped two men — an American and a Spanish citizen — who were later released unharmed. Two people who were with them were shot and wounded.
Omar Armendariz, who manages a Puerto Nuevo lobster restaurant, is counting on the new state and city governments to make tourists feel safer. He has never seen fewer visitors in his nine years on the job.
"It's dead," he said.
PP,
One thing a border guard said to me that was interesting. In talking about the vagueness of the new requirements he said, "Legally there is nothing that can prevent a US citizen from re-entering his own country except for some criminal reason." So the gist I got from that guard is they might hassle you, delay you but at least he wouldn't keep you out of the country.
Remember, if you know your rights things will go a lot smoother.
Besides worse to worse, the passport requirement for sea entry won't go into effect until 2009. You could always hit La Playa and swim for it! ;)
Yes but remember when you come to the border from Mexico you are entering a DMZ.
If customs wants to they can do a full body cavity search on you and they can hold you (last time I checked) for 72 hours for no reason at all. Just do what they tell you to do and do not speak until spoken too.
Pumphernickel
01-07-08, 02:53
I get down to TJ on a somewhat regular basis and becuase of the hassle with the policia at the border I started taking the Mexicoach located on Revolution between 6th and 7th. They are cool because for $5 they take you from downtown, thru the bus line and let you off at the side of the US immigration building and into a shorter line than the rest of the pedestrians are going through. I've made it through in as little as 10 minutes and also had a 2 hour wait at times (but at least you're sitting in what is usually an air conditioned bus). Only problem is, they only run every half hour from 9AM to 9PM and unless you're staying down there, the hours are not conducive to mongering schedule.
Last weekend I left around 1:00AM to get back to my room at the Comfort Inn.I hid most of my money in various locations keeping $30 in my wallet for the cops and caught a cab just outside the Chicago Club. While talking to the cabbie who spoke perfect English I mentined how I didn't like going past the policia that wait at the border. He told me that he knew a way where he could let me off past them but that the road was shitty and he would have to charge me more - $9.I told him to foget it and that I'd screw with the cops if I had to.He said he would take me any way for $5. Kind TJ cabies always make me leary, but I agreed.
He took me down some really shithole streets. Dirt, large rocks, it did take a toll on his car. Wen we got to the end of the last street, he motiond over his left shoulder and said "you don't have to worry, the cops are back there." Looking out, I could tell that I was only about 200 feet from the entrance to the building. If there had been a line, I would have had to walk to the back of it. I gave him $9 - hell, he was a nice guy and it was worth it (though next time he'll probably only get $7). He left the haedights on and insisted on walking me to the line because it was such a sihtty street.
His name is Perfidio. He says he always.parks outside CC and is well worth it if you want to bypass the cops.
Just curious, has any one else taken this way to the border? Perfidio can't be the only cabbie who knows about it.
Pumphernickel
01-07-08, 03:11
I see in some other posts that a passport is not going to be required after Jan. 1. Is this true? Does anybody have a link to the Feds' web site with this info? (Cuz I'm too friggin' lazy to look).
I need to send my passport off to get more pages, and I don't know how long that'll take. I hate to put off a visit to TJ while waiting for the PP, and, now, maybe I won't have to.
The last visit, I asked the border guy about the '08 requirements, but he was non-commital. I'm not sure what we pay these guys to do, but finding evil people crossing the border to do evil things, doesn't appear to be one of them. Maybe the chairs in the border station need to be kept warm?
PPThere seems to be a lot of different dates coming up for this. When I crossed the border last weekend I asked an agent And he told me that it is suppose to go into effect this June.But who knows. It was supposed to go into effect a couple of years ago. Our tax dollars at work!
If customs wants to they can do a full body cavity search on you and they can hold you (last time I checked) for 72 hours for no reason at all..
What is your source for the 72 hour holding period? It's true that customs does not need probable cause to search and detain you since you are entering the country but I would be surprised to learn they can do so for 72 hours.
His name is Perfidio. He says he always.parks outside CC and is well worth it if you want to bypass the cops.Porfirio is his name hehe. He is a good hearted guy, we've partied before, known the guy for about 4 years now.
Queer Juan
01-07-08, 06:54
Pumpernickel
I've used that back door route in a cab a few times just because I got tired of dealing with the cops as I 'm there a lot. Currently the cops seem to have backed off under a new administration so it isn't nescessary right now.
If you want to use it it runs parallel to where the peddestrian line forms but it's poorly lit and you'll have to direct the cab to it as most aren't used to using it although they know about it. If you speak Spanish it's not a problem although it will cost a few bucks more. The cabs drop you about a 100 feet from the Caliente Sports book just before the border and like you observed you are already past the cops at this point.
A simple and easier way is to always take your remaining funds and any remaining condoms and tuck them under the inside sole of your shoe leaving just a few bucks and cab fare back in your wallet.
Don't do it in the cab, do it just before leaving, I always do it in the room after my last session. Then have the cab take you to the Mcdonald Dropoff and walk the bridge just past the taxi drop off. There are sometimes cops on the bridge but more often than not there aren't any.
Even if you get stopped, when they find nothing in your wallet they want little to do with you and that's it. I've never lost a dime to these dopes this way.
People tell you all kinds of things like hold your money in your hand and that generally works but for newbies or those who don't speak Spanish, this way is even better.
The reason for hiding the condoms is to not let them know where you have been and they will ask, always lie and tell them you were shopping or with a friend at dinner or lunch, remain calm and you 'll be fine. They'll ask if you've been drinking, again just say no, always no. I always have mints with me but I drink very little anyway. NEVER try to cross at night in front of the cops if you're drunk. People get away with it all the time, I don't recommend it.
I posted this information earlier on what found on the US Department of States website...
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cbpmc/cbpmc_2223.html#compliant_document
and here's information from the Homeland Security website...
http://www.dhs.gov/xnews/releases/pr_1182350422171.shtm
It looks like after Jan 31st of 2008 that you can use your drivers license but you will also have to have proof of citizenship, such as a birth certificate with you. Like you said it's our tax dollars at work so we'll see what happen at the end of the month!!!
There seems to be a lot of different dates coming up for this. When I crossed the border last weekend I asked an agent And he told me that it is suppose to go into effect this June.But who knows. It was supposed to go into effect a couple of years ago. Our tax dollars at work!
Mofo Monger
01-07-08, 12:28
Gentlemen,
I've been a TJ man a few times (personally, I'm more a BKK man myself) but seeing how I can't take 2 weeks off every month to fly over to BKK for some RNR, TJ is the closest I can get.
Given the fact that Adelita girls run you $60 for 30 mins ($120 an hour plus about $10-15 for the room) doesn't it make more sense to hire an escort in San Diego for $140+ an hour?
It's safer and it seems like you are getting the same quality type girls. With the San Diego girls being more GFE.
Course if we throw in the Alley Girls, then yes the equation does tend to lean towards TJ.
Your thoughts?
I'm planning a TJ run on the weekend of the 18th? Anyone fellow members here going?
Given the fact that Adelita girls run you $60 for 30 mins ($120 an hour plus about $10-15 for the room) doesn't it make more sense to hire an escort in San Diego for $140+ an hour?
It's safer and it seems like you are getting the same quality type girls. With the San Diego girls being more GFE.Actually I'm impressed if you can find hot escorts that provide GFE for $140. I haven't gone down that route in a long time, but generally I'd think it'd be more expensive than that. Also, unless you want the girl to go over to your place (and know where you live), you're going to have to get a hotel which will probably run you at least $45-50 after tax. Then if you live in the area where you call an escort, you also run the risk of bumping into her at some public place. A small risk, but one some may not want to chance.
Of course, going to TJ is more than just $60 and $12 for a room. You have gas, parking, taxi fare, takes more of your time (which some of us either have or don't have), etc.
Then in TJ you'll also have a selection you can choose from, whereas even a real pic of an escort might be far lacking in what you thought. At least in TJ you get to see him up close and personal first. And if you're talking about doing 1 girl for 1hr, I'd like that to be my option and not a forced 1 hr min. Also, you have the option of cutting your losses on a bad choice, or even walking out before it starts which is much more acceptable in TJ. Besides, doing 2 girls in 2 30 minute sessions is usually preferrable to 1 for 1 hr (even if the escort stays the full hour).
Then again, if you don't know much spanish, it is actually nice to be with someone who spoke english.
Certainly it's all personal preference, but even if all things were equal, I think I'd still prefer TJ. Mainly, as someone else mentioned, the anticipation is fun. I like going to HK, CC, and SG to see what's out there, waiting to see if any new girls are in, cruising from club to club, checking out the SG's, etc. You get to roam around, get a few drinks and then decide who you want. Some don't care for it, but I also like the social aspect of getting a sense of the girl, or looking for a fav and reconnecting (perhaps for an even better trip upstairs this time).
I used to go to AB on the typical Fri/Sat nights when it was packed, you walk in choose a girl within 5 minutes, do your business and then hit a taxi ride back afterwards. But then standing in line back or on the drive home, it just seemed a little anticlimatic, a bit empty. Nothing to look forward to anymore. I guess it'd be like heading out to Vegas and blowing your bankroll in the first couple of hours and deciding to drive home. Much more fun to at least have a couple of days in Vegas for your efforts, the ups and downs rather than just pouring your money down a hole. In the few times I tried an escort, it was very much the same.
Now when I'm in TJ, I find it more enjoyable to spend a day/night of it, if I have the time. Nice to hit HK to get warmed up, or catch a good game on TV with a few beers. Gives you a chance to remind yourself of some real good trips to Mexico and maybe who/what you feel like looking for/doing that day.
As for BNK, never been but heard its great! Probably nothing over here can compare, and spoils the experience on anything in this continent.
Gentlemen,
I've been a TJ man a few times (personally, I'm more a BKK man myself) but seeing how I can't take 2 weeks off every month to fly over to BKK for some RNR, TJ is the closest I can get.
Given the fact that Adelita girls run you $60 for 30 mins ($120 an hour plus about $10-15 for the room) doesn't it make more sense to hire an escort in San Diego for $140+ an hour?
It's safer and it seems like you are getting the same quality type girls. With the San Diego girls being more GFE.
Course if we throw in the Alley Girls, then yes the equation does tend to lean towards TJ.
Your thoughts?
I'm planning a TJ run on the weekend of the 18th? Anyone fellow members here going?
One can stack the financial odds a bit more in one's favor by NEVER paying the asking price. This is Mexico, not USA. We're not shopping in Oxxo or Gigante. Everything on the street, from trinkets to p*ssy, is negotiable. $120/hour is a phenomenal amount of money in Mexico.
Instead of $120/hour, $80 - $100 is extremely do-able, and it's still a ton of dough. If they won't budge, they're not that interested and they're not gonna be that good. There're a lot of chicas, and they all gotta eat.
If we stick together we can, maybe, help make this more of a buyer's market.
Also, there's no danger of a police sting in TJ. THe girls are just that, girls selling a service. In SD, who knows? I'm certainly no expert, but I just don't bother taking the unnecessary risks.
PP
Ninguno Especial
01-08-08, 02:28
Instead of $120/hour, $80 - $100 is extremely do-able, and it's still a ton of dough. If they won't budge, they're not that interested and they're not gonna be that good. There're a lot of chicas, and they all gotta eat.
If we stick together we can, maybe, help make this more of a buyer's market.
Also, there's no danger of a police sting in TJ. PP
Very well said. It's really a monger's (buyers) market in TJ these days and everything is negotiable down in Mexico even pussy. Some guys just don't want to drive a couple of hours and go through the hoops it takes to get to the TJ Carnival. For me it is a lot more fun and challenging than calling an escort or dropping by a MP. Not to mention a lot less risky from a legal stand point.
Al Be Sure
01-08-08, 06:51
Gentlemen,
I've been a TJ man a few times (personally, I'm more a BKK man myself) but seeing how I can't take 2 weeks off every month to fly over to BKK for some RNR, TJ is the closest I can get.
Given the fact that Adelita girls run you $60 for 30 mins ($120 an hour plus about $10-15 for the room) doesn't it make more sense to hire an escort in San Diego for $140+ an hour?
It's safer and it seems like you are getting the same quality type girls. With the San Diego girls being more GFE.
Course if we throw in the Alley Girls, then yes the equation does tend to lean towards TJ.
Your thoughts?
I'm planning a TJ run on the weekend of the 18th? Anyone fellow members here going?It is exciting going down to TJ. I frequent an MP in LA that gives great service but the experience only lasts for an hour at most. In TJ the experience is much more than the session; it also includes everything before the session. For the same amount that I spend for an hour at the MP I can make it last for about 4 hours at TJ. At least for me when I leave TJ I leave satisfied.
I do agree that service in TJ is hit or miss, and mongering in other countries is a much better experience than TJ. I have mongered in El Salvador, and Costa Rica and the service is excellent most of the time. The proximity of TJ to the US makes it a practical mongering destination.
While talking to the cabbie who spoke perfect English I mentined how I didn't like going past the policia that wait at the border. He told me that he knew a way where he could let me off past them but that the road was shitty and he would have to charge me more - $9.I told him to foget it and that I'd screw with the cops if I had to.He said he would take me any way for $5. Kind TJ cabies always make me leary, but I agreed.
He took me down some really shithole streets. Dirt, large rocks, it did take a toll on his car. Wen we got to the end of the last street, he motiond over his left shoulder and said "you don't have to worry, the cops are back there." Looking out, I could tell that I was only about 200 feet from the entrance to the building. If there had been a line, I would have had to walk to the back of it. I gave him $9 - hell, he was a nice guy and it was worth it (though next time he'll probably only get $7). He left the haedights on and insisted on walking me to the line because it was such a sihtty street.
His name is Perfidio. He says he always.parks outside CC and is well worth it if you want to bypass the cops.
Just curious, has any one else taken this way to the border? Perfidio can't be the only cabbie who knows about it.
Wait, what cops? Tj cops? In all my trips to Tj while walking back to the border, that includes crossing the bridge, I've never seen any cops just waiting around to question the tourists. Only thing close to a cop that I've seen is the border patrol that checks your ID. So exactly what cops and where?
Ninguno Especial
01-09-08, 02:13
Wait, what cops? Tj cops? In all my trips to Tj while walking back to the border, that includes crossing the bridge, I've never seen any cops just waiting around to question the tourists. Only thing close to a cop that I've seen is the border patrol that checks your ID. So exactly what cops and where?
You are one of the chosen few who have not had the free massage by TJ's finest at the sentry lane taxi drop. This is at the foot of the new bed bridge East side of highway.
Consider yourself lucky but for the past month there have not been reports that they are still robbing gringos at this spot. Most activity was after 10pm.
Wait, what cops? Tj cops? In all my trips to Tj while walking back to the border, that includes crossing the bridge, I've never seen any cops just waiting around to question the tourists. Only thing close to a cop that I've seen is the border patrol that checks your ID. So exactly what cops and where?
You haven't ran into the cops because you've exclusively make daytime TJ runs. You're a "wild west monger" FJL, you get out of town before sunset. LOL. But from the late evening into the early morning, TJ's finest use the taxi drop-off point to pick off mongers; it's a turkey shoot for em' man. LOL.
Red Stripe
01-09-08, 08:42
Is the room cost for a hour same as 1/2 hour?
Country John
01-09-08, 18:43
Is the room cost for a hour same as 1/2 hour?
No. An hour is usually twice as much.
Country John
You are one of the chosen few who have not had the free massage by TJ's finest at the sentry lane taxi drop. This is at the foot of the new bed bridge East side of highway.
Consider yourself lucky but for the past month there have not been reports that they are still robbing gringos at this spot. Most activity was after 10pm.I crossed on Monday night at 7:30pm and there were no sign of cops at the crossover bridge. Which was good.
Generally, if you're going during the evening you can't miss the cops it'll be a group of about 3-4 hanging right next to the taxi drop off.
Just and FYI, been testing an old expired passport and the border guards have been fine with that. One even ran it through the scanner which should've told him it's expired (by about 4 years) and he didn't even hesistate.
I know the size of the passport is a pain, but it's a lot safer to carry an old passport than a copy of your birth certificate IMHO. With a birthcertificate (if stolen by the Mexican police or lost) identify thieves can do a lot more damage than with an expired passport.
D Cooper76
01-09-08, 21:39
Anybody hear about this?
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/mexico/tijuana/20080109-9999-1m9baja.html
You haven't ran into the cops because you've exclusively make daytime TJ runs. You're a "wild west monger" FJL, you get out of town before sunset. LOL. But from the late evening into the early morning, TJ's finest use the taxi drop-off point to pick off mongers; it's a turkey shoot for em' man. LOL.Indeed, most of the money sucking vampires come out at night :)
Pumphernickel
01-10-08, 05:41
Located on the North side of 7th St. between Rev. and Constitucion. I've been seeing a lot of their ads lately.
"We have the best assortment of ladies anywhere who give 100% everyday...
The Team Juanita chicas do not work in the bar, but are available by appointment"
Anyone have personal experience? Is it worth walking in and having a beer to look around or just the typical Rev. type joint?
Located on the North side of 7th St. between Rev. and Constitucion. I've been seeing a lot of their ads lately.
"We have the best assortment of ladies anywhere who give 100% everyday...
The Team Juanita chicas do not work in the bar, but are available by appointment"
Anyone have personal experience? Is it worth walking in and having a beer to look around or just the typical Rev. type joint?
A while back I searched the forum for info on ML. Only found a few postings.
I went a few months back, and posted a trip report.
I believe I went on a weekend night. They have a nice juke box, and the drink prices are fairly reasonable. At the time, only a few girls worked there, maybe around 6. (read the TR for more accurate info.). My research indicated that the girls wanted $100/hour. I never asked anybody there, as there was nobody there worth it.
Things may have changed since then, but I'm skeptical.
PP
Country John
01-10-08, 17:04
Team Juanita is probably the most reliable service available in TJ.
Country John
Pumphernickel
01-11-08, 01:42
Team Juanita is probably the most reliable service available in TJ.
Country JohnCJ,
I've heard good things about them but what would be the advantage of making an appointment with them at Mexico Lindo rather than through the agency. It seems like it would probably just cost you extra.
Thanks
I have used them and they are great. Just tell them what you want. Their customer service is on point too. I am in TJ now at the Marriott and look forward to seeing a few of the ladies and visiting the bar although I don't know the details between that and the escort service. I mean I think on the escort site they do talk about the bar and say that the girls are different from at the bar. I don't have the link on this computer but I'll see if I can get the exact page that they talk about the bar on.
Man, I'm supposed to check out La Mansion too. I did see it on the way to the Marriott from the border. I better take my vitamin C and get moving!
Country John
01-11-08, 08:33
CJ,
I've heard good things about them but what would be the advantage of making an appointment with them at Mexico Lindo rather than through the agency. It seems like it would probably just cost you extra.
Thanks
A good and sound question.
In order to better serve its customers, the service has had to change its operating basis for the time being. It is still the same service and same level of service, just a different way of doing business. I can't go into detail, but let's just say that it adds a layer of protection for the concerned parties. It should not cost extra and if it does, ask to speak to the owner and tell him I told you to call and complain. If you ge the run-around (which you will not) then PM me.
This service is well established and has very nice girls who know what to do. If you ever wanted to have a GFE with a latina who knows how then this is the service. Just INSIST on the very best and you will get it. Ask for a session with Dulce. You'll see what I mean.
Country John
This may be late since CJ may have answered your question by now but here is a link to the info page for Mexico Lindo Bar if anyone else is interested: http://mexicolindobar.com/Home_Page.html
-DP
Country John
01-11-08, 18:05
This may be late since CJ may have answered your question by now but here is a link to the info page for Mexico Lindo Bar if anyone else is interested: http://mexicolindobar.com/Home_Page.html
-DP
OHMYGOD, I forgot that Dulce is with child!! Holysmokes! But the beautiful Kamala, the total GFE wonderwoman (who is probably smarter than most guys on this board) is on board and Tania the legend is there too. What a pair!! Coming up for air will be your problem with these girls.
This is NOT an advertisement by the way, I just get excited when I see these girls.
Country John
I didn't know how to break it to you...lol. I tried to see her last time I was here and she was on vacation.
I heard some really interesting stuff about Kamela and Tania. I wonder if they would work together! I hear Kamela is not GFE but PSE to the extreme! Angelica has some great oral skills too but is a "mature" provider. I guess when you hit 30 you are a mature provider. I enjoyed her visit more then some of these younger girls! I don't know who to see this evening but I hope to have some respiratory issues too...LOL!!
DP
Country John
01-11-08, 22:35
I didn't know how to break it to you...lol. I tried to see her last time I was here and she was on vacation.
I heard some really interesting stuff about Kamela and Tania. I wonder if they would work together! I hear Kamela is not GFE but PSE to the extreme! Angelica has some great oral skills too but is a "mature" provider. I guess when you hit 30 you are a mature provider. I enjoyed her visit more then some of these younger girls! I don't know who to see this evening but I hope to have some respiratory issues too...LOL!!
DP
I love Dulce. She is MY kind of girl. A beautiful creature that you'll want to take home with you for sure (many have tried).
Kamela is a real Mattress Monster and will probably out-perform anyone you've seen so far, she's young, beautiful and intelligent. Tania, well...what can I say about the Legend that has not already been said. She's got a great bod, a kodak memory, excellent skills that comes with years of professional experience (she used to work at AB) and she is a sweetheart, I love her. She'll ask your sign and your birthday etc., and she will NEVER forget it. An Amazing woman and a treat to have around.
If you want a wild ride, take Kamela...you won't regret it. And don't forget to post your trip report! If you want a great session with a legend, take Tania. You won't lose in either case.....trust me.
Country John
I love Dulce. She is MY kind of girl. A beautiful creature that you'll want to take home with you for sure (many have tried).
Kamela is a real Mattress Monster and will probably out-perform anyone you've seen so far, she's young, beautiful and intelligent. Tania, well...what can I say about the Legend that has not already been said. She's got a great bod, a kodak memory, excellent skills that comes with years of professional experience (she used to work at AB) and she is a sweetheart, I love her. She'll ask your sign and your birthday etc., and she will NEVER forget it. An Amazing woman and a treat to have around.
If you want a wild ride, take Kamela...you won't regret it. And don't forget to post your trip report! If you want a great session with a legend, take Tania. You won't lose in either case.....trust me.
Country John
Just curious to know if you take these girls to a short time hotel or will most decent hotels in TJ accept them as guests ?
What hotels(type) would not let them in ?
Is the rate $100 for the evening or just for an hour or two ? I looked on the website but did not see this information.
It sounds like it could be a nice alternative to $60 quick fixes.
Man, I'm supposed to check out La Mansion too. I did see it on the way to the Marriott from the border. I better take my vitamin C and get moving!I recommend "El Ensueño" motel which is up in Otay. Same owners as La Mansion I believe but nicer and same prices +/- few dollars maybe.
The jacuzzi suite is nice. Two plasmas in the room, you can view both from inside the jacuzzi. If porn if you cup of tea, have each plasma on a different porn channel. DVD/MP3 player also provided.
Just curious to know if you take these girls to a short time hotel or will most decent hotels in TJ accept them as guests?
What hotels (type) would not let them in?
Is the rate $100 for the evening or just for an hour or two? I looked on the website but did not see this information.
It sounds like it could be a nice alternative to $60 quick fixes. The best bet for escorts is to take them to a Love Motel like La Mansion, El Ensueño, El Parador, Premier, etc. Just to name a few. Prices around $20-40 for standard room depending the motel. Jacuzzi suites $50-70 or so. Usually during the weekday you get the room for the whole night. Weekends you get it for 3-4 hours or so. These places frequented by other Mexicans and there "Amantes" for some private fun
Although you shouldn't have a problem bringing your date back to you own hotel room. Friends never had a problem at Pueblo Amigo, Grand Hotel or Camino Real.
As for the rate, it used to be $150 the hour, unless it has change recently. Never used the service myself, I prefer the zona.
Sunset Strip
01-12-08, 02:32
Went to TJ today around 2pm. On the way back from the alley I heard a guy telling the waiters at Margarita Ville (the bar that you pass upstairs on the bridge back) that he wanted $1 beers and free tequilla. The waiters then asked him how many beers he was going to drink and then took him in.
That place is known as a clip joint/tourist trap. usually they do not even bother me because I am in TJ so often that they know I know better. But if you can get them to deal with you on a slow day like today, then it might be worth a stop.
The alley was rather slow today. Lots of girls but few customers. I got whatever I wanted for $20, $3 for the room!
The line at the border walking back was only 10 minutes around 3pm, so a daytime quickie is again possible as it was before the increased security.
TJ
although limited here has been to get a room in TJ and see them there. I can only speak for two hotels and they are Pueblo Amigo (seemed VERY relaxed about the girls and some of the guys offered to get some) and the Marriott which I am at now.
I suggest you book for two at the Marriott as I was informed it is against policy to have guests. I have yet to have an issue at any Marriott BUT I was told if the security person wants to be a hard*ss it might be a hassle. I do that all the time and in non-Marriott hotels too if it doesn't change the rate much. I did not have to put any names down. I say this because in Santo Domingo they asked for a name but maybe that was their protocol. No other Marriotts have done this before or since and even that one never checked the girls ID. I am ashamed as a fledgling monger to say that I was wifed up on that trip so it was only one ID to check...lol. The guest must dress regular and not like a stripper or SW especially if she is a local.
Artisttyp, I know some of this is old news to you so to get back to your questions. Both hotels are decent. The Marriott is more upscale. I understand that the other big TJ hotel is guest friendly too. I forgot the name right now but it and Pueblo Amigo are supposed to be top notch "regular" non-chain hotels here. Most will go to the short time places with the most common being La Mansion and Premier. CJ commented on these because I was curious about them.
The typical rate for escorts here looks to be about 150.00 dollars. There are some $ girls that have good reviews on that review site for escorts. This is for an hour of time. One particular service is running a $$ for two hour special on their 150 girls. Selection is limited compared to the bars for sure. I can post the website addresses for a couple of the escort sites if anyone is interested.
DC
Somehow the order of these reports came out weird. I did not see your post prior to doing mine. I did not see your suggestion either. Sorry to be redundant with the info...lol. I never did make it to La Mansion but NEXT time I will go visit some places including the spot in Otay.
I still enjoy the hotel stay but for a quick trip, the motel seems to work out just fine. Be aware of the different rules about staying in them. I was told that some do not let you go in and out...of the room that is! Some will also charge you (at a discounted rate) again if you bring another girl there later after checking in. Doesn't matter if you used your four hours or not! I don't know if it is some or all or what but two providers told me that. I was going to get the room and have two visits over the course of the four hours.
Depeche Mode
01-12-08, 23:25
Hey guys, whats up?
So my buddies and I have not been to TJ since November. Since its the New Year and I heard you are now required to bring passports I was wondering if this was true.
Pumphernickel
01-13-08, 06:15
The requirement for passports has been pushed back (once again) until June. BTW, if you had used the "Search this Thread" tool on this board and entered "passports", you coud have found this out much quicker. Have fun!
They pushed the passport requirement back another year, and I'm sure, that in 2009, they'll push it back again.
Depeche Mode
01-13-08, 18:27
Awesome! Its cause my passport is from when I was like 5, and I lost my birth certificate so it would be a hassle to get a new passport.
A good and sound question.
In order to better serve its customers, the service has had to change its operating basis for the time being. It is still the same service and same level of service, just a different way of doing business. I can't go into detail, but let's just say that it adds a layer of protection for the concerned parties. It should not cost extra and if it does, ask to speak to the owner and tell him I told you to call and complain. If you ge the run-around (which you will not) then PM me.
This service is well established and has very nice girls who know what to do. If you ever wanted to have a GFE with a latina who knows how then this is the service. Just INSIST on the very best and you will get it. Ask for a session with Dulce. You'll see what I mean.
Country John
I don't expect you to go into detail but since your pumping this service don't you think you have an ethical obligation to disclose that you have at least a short term financial interest?
Country John
01-13-08, 22:19
I don't expect you to go into detail but since your pumping this service don't you think you have an ethical obligation to disclose that you have at least a short term financial interest?
I understand why you would post this, and I welcome the opportunity to reply.
I have absolutely no interest in that service of any kind. I have no investment, receive no money or "commissions," or consideration at all. I am not involved in running the business nor do I have any contact with the girls. I have not seen the owner for several months even though he is a good friend, and we are both in Tijuana.
I do know that his service is excellent, he is an honest guy and goes out of his way to make certain the customer is satisfied. This is a hard won reputation and people who go to those lengths deserve a proper reference from those who know about it.
I would expect anyone with information about a service to post it if they felt it would be helpful to other mongers.
My other very good friend owns the VivaMex day spa on Revolution and I often talk positively about his business. I have no ownership interest in VivaMex but I do carry a pre-paid service card ($250.00) for services at the spa which is totally legit by the way, no sexual services of any kind are offered there. As soon as he completes his move to the new (bigger and better) facility, I am certain his business will increase even more. I took a tour of the new digs with him last nigh and I can tell you, he has gone all-out to put a top shelf spa there for you.
I have my own interests in Tijuana and on March 1 will commence operations of a manufacturing company there. It has tied up all my resources and time. It is a non sex-industry related company and one that I am certain will have a very bright future. I am in the process of finalizing my move to Tijuana at this time, and plan on living out the rest of my days here, where I have been living off and on for the past two and a half years.
Feel free to ask anything at any time. I have no reason to be dis-honest or mis-lead anyone.
Thanks for asking.
Country John
Edit:
I did post a $10,000 bail for the owner a year ago when he was busted after being set-up by TJPD, that might be what you are referring to but that is between him and I. The "loan" remains unpaid and I, again, have not tied that to his business.
Country John
01-13-08, 22:25
Just curious to know if you take these girls to a short time hotel or will most decent hotels in TJ accept them as guests ?
What hotels(type) would not let them in ?
Is the rate $100 for the evening or just for an hour or two ? I looked on the website but did not see this information.
It sounds like it could be a nice alternative to $60 quick fixes.
As long as you register the girl with you then there should be no problems. There have been many instances of girls ripping off guys, physical harm to girls or guys and stuff missing from the hotels so they don't like to have people there that are not registered at the front desk. When you are finished with her you can "unregister" her.
Country John
I did post a $10,000 bail for the owner a year ago when he was busted after being set-up by TJPD, that might be what you are referring to but that is between him and I. The "loan" remains unpaid and I, again, have not tied that to his business.
That is exactly what I was referring to. You may consider the loan not tied to his business but that is the nature of disclosure-to let people draw their own conclusions based on full knowledge. Thank you for your response.
Pumphernickel
01-14-08, 04:15
It shouldn't be that big of a hassle to get your passport - it just may take you a little longer. Since your passport was issued so long ago and before you were sixteen though, it will be like applying for a new one. You'll need proof of citizenship and a photo ID. To get your BC you'll have to contact the Hall of Records in the county where you were born, find out what info they need from you, mail it to them and they'll mail you a copy with the official seal on it. For more info on obtaing passports check out usps.com. They have a link to the Dept. of State's section on passport info. Sounds like a bigger hassle than it really is but the biggest pain is that the Dept. of State is getting bogged down with orders and are taking a lot longer to process them so don't put it off too long.
Roguesta, I was wondering where you heard it was being pushed back another year? Someone else saidi that it was until June '09 but when I asked a border agent the last time I crossed he told me it was June of this year. Just curious.
Pump
Awesome! Its cause my passport is from when I was like 5, and I lost my birth certificate so it would be a hassle to get a new passport.
From the other posts, and web links, I believe they have postponed the passport requitement, but will still want a driver's license AND a birth certificate after Jan. 31.
PP
Super Gato
01-15-08, 00:49
From the other posts, and web links, I believe they have postponed the passport requitement, but will still want a driver's license AND a birth certificate after Jan. 31.
PP
On Feb 1, the State Department will begin accepting applications for a new "passport card" which is for traveling over land into the US from Canada or Mexico. It is $45 for people w/o passports or $20 for those with passports.
http://travel.state.gov/passport/ppt_card/ppt_card_3926.html
For those of us living near the borders, this might make sense if you don't want to have your passport book or carry your birth certificate with you.
Country John
01-15-08, 01:40
That is exactly what I was referring to. You may consider the loan not tied to his business but that is the nature of disclosure-to let people draw their own conclusions based on full knowledge. Thank you for your response.
You're welcomed.
You know, I never considered the bail when referring people to his service. Hard to believe but it is true. When the case is finished, the bail is refunded in full so there is very little risk and like I said, he's my friend. We expect that his case will be dismissed and the bail money returned this year sometime so there is no need to encumber his business, and no need for me to be concerned about it.
The fact is that he runs a great service and he doesn't need Country John to advertise, his customers do a much better job than I. I just wish him the best of luck in continuing a positive operation.
Country John
I stopped by VivaMex yesterday and found the whole place stripped down and a sign saying they have moved. Fortunately, it's only about 50 feet further down the street heading to 4th street (same side) near the strip club Beverly Hills.
I heard earlier reports that VivaMex was only going to be down for about 1 week when they did move, but there is some serious construction that needs to be done on the new location. Looks like it might be a fair amount of time, maybe like until sometime in Feb.
Sounds like they will have more rooms (and hopefully more good masseuses, and being attractive wouldn't hurt either). Not sure if the prices will get a bump up due to their costs of a new place, hope not. Generally, the massages there have been the best I've gotten in TJ, especially considering the price of $25 for 45 min or $35 for 60 min.
MasterPelican
01-17-08, 04:02
JANUARY 31, 2008
U.S. and Canadian citizens will need to present either a WHTI-compliant document, or a government-issued photo ID, such as a driver’s license, plus proof of citizenship, such as a birth certificate. DHS also proposes to begin alternative procedures for U.S. and Canadian children at that time.
LATER
At a later date, to be determined, the departments will implement the full requirements of the land and sea phase of WHTI. The proposed rules require most U.S. citizens entering the United States at sea or land ports of entry to have either a U.S. passport; a U.S. passport card; a trusted traveler card such as NEXUS, FAST, or SENTRI; a valid Merchant Mariner Document (MMD) when traveling in conjunction with official maritime business; or a valid U.S. Military identification card when traveling on official orders.
At those massage places, what do they do?
Do you get naked or do they?
Country John
01-17-08, 08:52
I stopped by VivaMex yesterday and found the whole place stripped down and a sign saying they have moved. Fortunately, it's only about 50 feet further down the street heading to 4th street (same side) near the strip club Beverly Hills.
I heard earlier reports that VivaMex was only going to be down for about 1 week when they did move, but there is some serious construction that needs to be done on the new location. Looks like it might be a fair amount of time, maybe like until sometime in Feb.
Sounds like they will have more rooms (and hopefully more good masseuses, and being attractive wouldn't hurt either). Not sure if the prices will get a bump up due to their costs of a new place, hope not. Generally, the massages there have been the best I've gotten in TJ, especially considering the price of $25 for 45 min or $35 for 60 min.
He moved overnight Saturday, I took a tour of the new space with the owner after I met up with him on Revo during a Saturday evening stroll, we're friends and have had some interesting meetings over the years. The new place is fantastic and will be 1000% better than the old spa, you wait and see.
The spa is totally spa. No sex of any kind, no happy endings that you might expect. It's gringo owned and run by his lovely Latina wife. The place gets rave reviews. The expanded services (medical/cosmetic) will be great for the girls and there will be an MD on staff.
I would strongly suggest visiting VivaMex when they open in the new spot. If you've been there before, you will be very surprised.
Country John
Remember, it is NOT a massage parlor but a legit spa, so don't ask.
Now the passport card does make sense for people who live and cross the border frequently. But it looks like they are saying that you will receive them in the Spring of 2008 at the earliest!
On Feb 1, the State Department will begin accepting applications for a new "passport card" which is for traveling over land into the US from Canada or Mexico. It is $45 for people w/o passports or $20 for those with passports.
http://travel.state.gov/passport/ppt_card/ppt_card_3926.html
For those of us living near the borders, this might make sense if you don't want to have your passport book or carry your birth certificate with you.
The prices won't necessarily go up, at Viva Mex, because the rent at the new place is a lot lower than the old one. This was the biggest reason for the move.
Country John
01-17-08, 19:55
The prices won't necessarily go up, at Viva Mex, because the rent at the new place is a lot lower than the old one. This was the biggest reason for the move.
I think he was still on the hook for the restaurant portion, I'm not sure. The new space is much larger it seems and it is certainly very well planned out. I'm anxious to see ti when the paint is dry. He did an excellent job.
Hobbyguy10
01-17-08, 22:38
Sorry if this question has already been asked. I'm still not clear if a passport or birth cert. is required if I visit and leave Mexico today.
I read where a birth cert. is required after Jan. 31. Unfortunately, I'm visiting SD today and I don't have my passport or birth cert. Only have a CA license.
Want to hit Tj tonight!
Thanks
I heard earlier reports that VivaMex was only going to be down for about 1 week when they did move, but there is some serious construction that needs to be done on the new location. Looks like it might be a fair amount of time, maybe like until sometime in Feb.
As recently as last week the plan was to open on Saturday 1-19 with only the ground floor operational.
Sorry if this question has already been asked. I'm still not clear if a passport or birth cert. is required if I visit and leave Mexico today.
I read where a birth cert. is required after Jan. 31. Unfortunately, I'm visiting SD today and I don't have my passport or birth cert. Only have a CA license.
Want to hit Tj tonight!
ThanksYou should be OK to cross the border and back with only your California drivers license up until the 31st. After that you will need your drivers license and your birth certicate or your passport.
For everybodys info the U.S. Dept. of Homeland Security will be monitoring pass ports after Jan. 31,2008.
You will need 2 forms of I.D. the passport and your Drivers I.D. not so sure of Birth certificate, but just be prepared.
You Can probably expect longer lines.
Read this this morning on the O.C. Register.
Guys, just go out and get your passports if you don't have one already. It's quick and easy. I assume a high % of the mongers on here already have one anyways.
I've had guys tell me, "but I can't, I am busy working/have no time". WTF? So you have time to go to the zona and bang hookers but no time to get apply for a passport? ! ? ! IMO it's just being lazy.
I've had a passport since I was 14, later lost it at the casino in San Diego Took less than 30 minutes to go apply for a replacement.
Sounds great guys, thanks for the updates on VivaMex. I look forward to the upgrades, and glad it looks like it'll work out better (lower rent and no price raises).
The spa is totally spa. No sex of any kind, no happy endings that you might expect. It's gringo owned and run by his lovely Latina wife. The place gets rave reviews. The expanded services (medical/cosmetic) will be great for the girls and there will be an MD on staff.You should have the guy advertise or give specials to the working girls, since they'll likely be girls willing to spend the money. Although one of the times I was there, a group of 4 US girls (mid to late 20's) were all getting massages (also buying beer I guess from your friend's wife). One of the girls was touting how she loves this place for a cheap massage and was introducing it to her friends. Perhaps US advertising wouldn't be bad either.
Pumphernickel
01-19-08, 08:11
Guys, just go out and get your passports if you don't have one already. It's quick and easy. I assume a high % of the mongers on here already have one anyways.
I've had guys tell me, "but I can't, I am busy working/have no time". WTF? So you have time to go to the zona and bang hookers but no time to get apply for a passport? ! ? ! IMO it's just being lazy.
I've had a passport since I was 14, later lost it at the casino in San Diego Took less than 30 minutes to go apply for a replacement.Right on Nero X. Guys, just go to usps.com, click on "All Prodcts & Services", then down to passports. They've even got a locator to the closest PO that issues passports (Most of them will take your photos there), a downloadable Passport Application Form and even a link to the Department of State for those of you that are still confused. The process took me less than 30 minutes, but the time it takes for them to mail them to you is getting backed up, So get off your butts and do it now unless you want to wait and pay them an extra $60 bucks or so that they charge you for rush service.
Pumphernickel
01-19-08, 08:37
Saw this on SD Craigslist. Heard anything about it? Sounds like a major scam to me!
(I'll reply to your inquiry on my dental experience shortly. I have another dentist who was highly recommened to me by a couple that have been seeing her for 14 years and I want to find her card so I can post her info also)
Later.
"SEX and BUSINESS - mw4m
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Date: 2008-01-18, 8:52AM PST
It is possible!
We have a Night Club and a Hotel in Tijuana's World Famous "Red Zone".
Right On The Heart of the Area. Really! Right on the Heart of it all!!
You can make money, have fun, and have sex, with no worries.
Please contact us if you have money to remodel the properties and operation costs.
We will run it! Over 20 years of experience.
Be clear about this, We will meet in San Diego, face to face, have money to put down right away, business will start operating in 3 months.
All necessary permits current!
The "Red Zone Area" is serious multi million dollar business, and it is a regulated legal business.
Keep in mind, you can only find these scenarios in the State of Nevada, and Here in Tijuana's "Red Zone" or as locall call it "Zona Norte" (North Zone).
There will be contracts sign before Public Notary, and all the legalities needed to operated a legal business.
Reply with a number where we can call you.
Otherwise you wont be taken seriously.
No time to waste here.
Location: Tijuana"
Better check what the US Dept of State on travel says after Jan. 31st...
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cbpmc/cbpmc_2223.html
LAND AND SEA TRAVEL
The following summarizes information available on the Department of Homeland Security’s website.
* JANUARY 31, 2008
U.S. and Canadian citizens will need to present either a WHTI-compliant document, or a government-issued photo ID, such as a driver’s license, plus proof of citizenship, such as a birth certificate. DHS also proposes to begin alternative procedures for U.S. and Canadian children at that time.
* LATER
At a later date, to be determined, the departments will implement the full requirements of the land and sea phase of WHTI. The proposed rules require most U.S. citizens entering the United States at sea or land ports of entry to have either a U.S. passport; a U.S. passport card; a trusted traveler card such as NEXUS, FAST, or SENTRI; a valid Merchant Mariner Document (MMD) when traveling in conjunction with official maritime business; or a valid U.S. Military identification card when traveling on official orders.
Note: The passport requirement does NOT apply to U.S. citizens traveling to or returning directly from a U.S. territory.
U.S. PASSPORT AND OTHER TRAVEL DOCUMENTS
* U.S. Passport: U.S. citizens may present a valid U.S. passport when traveling via air, land or sea between the U.S. and the aforementioned Western Hemisphere countries.
* The Passport Card: U.S. citizens may begin applying in advance for this new, limited-use, wallet-size passport card beginning February 1, 2008. We expect cards will be available and mailed to applicants in spring 2008. When available it will only be valid for land and sea travel between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico, the Caribbean region, and Bermuda.
* Other Accepted Travel Documents: SENTRI, NEXUS, FAST and the U.S. Coast Guard Mariner Document. Members of the U.S. Armed Forces on active duty traveling on orders are exempt from the passport requirement. DHS has more information on these travel documents. This information may be seen at www.dhs.gov.
So as of Jan. 31st, 2008, you will need either your passport OR your driver license and your birth certificate to cross the border. Not a passport AND your drivers license. You only need two forms of ID only if you do not have a passport.
For everybodys info the U.S. Dept. of Homeland Security will be monitoring pass ports after Jan. 31,2008.
You will need 2 forms of I.D. the passport and your Drivers I.D. not so sure of Birth certificate, but just be prepared.
You Can probably expect longer lines.
Read this this morning on the O.C. Register.
Tribalicious
01-21-08, 12:19
Hey guys,
Thanks for all your posts. I know what (and who) to do but not where. Are there any maps I can print out (no I won't walk around with it out)? Also a walkers faq? I dont see one.
I have been to TJ 6 times but I only used team juanita (yes that one). Dulce was the ultimate PSE but my fav is Mia ( who has retired I think) She is a combination of dirty and innocence that I haven't seen for a while. I also tried Xiomara who was fun but not as fun as the other 2.
Anyway I am off to La Zona to reedeem myself so I appreciate any help.
Saw this on SD Craigslist. Heard anything about it? Sounds like a major scam to me!
We have a Night Club and a Hotel in Tijuana's World Famous "Red Zone".
Right On The Heart of the Area. Really! Right on the Heart of it all!!
You can make money, have fun, and have sex, with no worries.Pump, not sure if these are the same guys but about a couple of years ago I met these 2-3 guys who said they had an arrangement with the Tecate Bar owner (I think on 1st, just outside of SG territory). Basically, the place was empty and unused and they proposed to that owner they were going to get American money to remodel the place and turn it into a monger hang out, with monthly dues. They'd solicite non-pros to come and hang out with the members, etc.
Seemed like a decent idea, but really they needed a critical mass of about 50 consistent members. And with AB, CC, and HK so close by, logistically, it would be hard to get people from a financial standpoint to choose to spend their dollars at that Tecate bar, unless there was a strong social bond between members.
Perhaps it's these same guys that have opted for a different strategy to build a rival to AB, CC, and HK by either providing high value or quality girls to work for them. Either way, those 2-3 guys I met had no experience running a club, had no capital that seemed apparent, and were basically looking for an angel investor to come in and give them money to run with.
Perhaps when times were real good, it might have made some sense, but there's less customers crossing the border these days (perhaps due to the violence) and the whole passport issue will cut traffic as well.
Makes a lot more sense to run something inhouse in the US, if it can stay under the radar.
Thanks for all your posts. I know what (and who) to do but not where. Are there any maps I can print out (no I won't walk around with it out)? Also a walkers faq? I dont see one.
I have been to TJ 6 times but I only used team juanita (yes that one). Dulce was the ultimate PSE but my fav is Mia ( who has retired I think) She is a combination of dirty and innocence that I haven't seen for a while. I also tried Xiomara who was fun but not as fun as the other 2.If you do a google search on Zona Norte Map you can probably find one of the maps online.
Basically the 3 main places AB, CC, and HK are all very close. Take a taxi to Adelitas, and from there, you can ask any of the other mongers where one of the other clubs are. AB (Calle Coahuila) is the only place that's busy during the day, HK is OK. But the best selections are generally in the evening at all 3. The SG's are in the sidestreet / alley (Callejon Coahuila) that's directly behind Adelitas, also HK is located there as well.
So as you step out of AB, make a right, go to the intersection. To the left is CC (opposite side of the street), to get to the SG's make a right and then another right onto Callejon Coahuila.
Country John
01-21-08, 19:34
Hey guys,
Thanks for all your posts. I know what (and who) to do but not where. Are there any maps I can print out (no I won't walk around with it out)? Also a walkers faq? I dont see one.
I have been to TJ 6 times but I only used team juanita (yes that one). Dulce was the ultimate PSE but my fav is Mia ( who has retired I think) She is a combination of dirty and innocence that I haven't seen for a while. I also tried Xiomara who was fun but not as fun as the other 2.
Anyway I am off to La Zona to reedeem myself so I appreciate any help.
Ahhhh Dulce, a real sweetheart.
As far as a map is concerned, I'll look for one for you if you PM me with an email address that I can send it to. You'll find that when you get there, you really won't need it. ONce you get there, you'll see that everything is in one tight area and you won't want to be walking around outside the area for any reason. Stick to the bars and the Alley for now. You won't have trouble finding your way around.
If you read Brocton's guide, you will read everything pertinent.
Country John
Gfe Finder
01-22-08, 00:15
While in San Diego over the weekend, I stayed at the Days Inn in Chula Vista (as recommended in the BOT FAQ.) Nice hotel, big rooms with a king-size bed for me, lots of restaurants nearby, and not too far a drive to the border.
I made a stop in Tijuana to see Monica of Adelitas. She had given me her cell phone number last time. She mentioned that recently, she’s started a website (Google Tijuana Escort Angelica and you’ll find it.) So, I booked an hour with her via the website.
Even though she is older than most of the girls at Adelitas, her service and attitude have always been outstanding as far as I’m concerned. This time was no exception. She met me in the plaza across the border, and we headed off to a hotel in town. After telling me during the ride over how nice it was to see me, how good I looked, and how much she was looking forward to this, we arrived. We got undressed and did some light kissing by the bed. She started with a bodyrub, running her large natural breasts down my back and butt. She then massaged my dick with some baby oil. This feels *so* good—imagine your dick rubbing up against something slippery but tight. Thus, it became very hard to contain myself but I managed. She put the condom on me and rode me cowgirl for a while. I really wanted to finish at this point. So, I got on top, and after a couple minutes, I finally came.
Afterwards, we showered, and she wanted to go again. Even though I thought I was spent, she managed to massage my dick and use her oral skills to get me back to a hard state, and got on top once more. Even after my moving on top, I couldn’t get a 2nd pop even though we were past the hour, so we just rested and she continued telling me how glad she was to see me. Again, she has a fantastic service and attitude, so I can easily recommend her.
BTW, this has been covered elsewhere but FWIW I just showed my driver’s license at the Customs station and was sent on my way. I’ll be curious to hear how bad the hassles will be once the new requirements kick in on the 31st.
Here's a map I made. It also has the walking pathways to get to the Zona Norte and how to get back to the border and even parking behind the Jack in the box. I think I'll put this up in the photo gallery thread as well.
If you print it, set the picture to landscape and have it fit the page to aspect ratio.
Enjoy! :]
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6176/tjmapjy5.gif
I have not been to TJ in over a year but when I went in the past few years I always walked to/from the Zona and felt safe alone at any time of the day or late at night. Never had a problem walking back to the border except for getting stopped and searched a lot. Is the situation the same now days? All this talk about recent violence makes me worry a little. Yes, I'm a cheapskate and I don't want to pay an extra $5 + $5 for taxi fares every night I go there.
While shopping on Revolution on my previous trip, I noticed that most stores that carry jewelry have imitation Rolex watches. They lowered prices on these watches to $30-$50. Has anyone purchased one of these watches and how reliable have they been?
Tribalicious
01-23-08, 07:56
Here's a map I made. It also has the walking pathways to get to the Zona Norte and how to get back to the border and even parking behind the Jack in the box. I think I'll put this up in the photo gallery thread as well.
If you print it, set the picture to landscape and have it fit the page to aspect ratio.
Enjoy! :]
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6176/tjmapjy5.gifThanks to all of you for the responses to my request. My friends and I are set for thursday after 9pm. If any one will be around pm me so we can connect.
Country John
01-23-08, 18:05
While shopping on Revolution on my previous trip, I noticed that most stores that carry jewelry have imitation Rolex watches. They lowered prices on these watches to $30-$50. Has anyone purchased one of these watches and how reliable have they been?
They are junk. Do not waste your money. They are very cheap chinese watches and most are "seconds," meaning they didn't get through "quality" control so like most seconds, they were sent to Mexico.
Same with the silver or "plata." Guys walk around with this stuff all day long and try to sell it on the street to unsuspecting and stupid tourists.
It's usually silver plate over cheap steel. Take a good magnet (I have a telescopic magnet with a pen-like clip) and if the piece sticks to the magnet, don't buy it. Silver is non magnetic, gold is non magnetic.
Most stores on Revo have not paid their rent in over a year, are suffering crushing losses and will do anything to get into your wallet. They are slick operators who have a lot more experience selling than you do in buying, some of them love to rip you off too. The best bet is to buy hand made arts and crafts stuff and articles of clothing that you get to inspect first.
Times are tough in TJ right now, but support vendors who do the right thing and when you catch someone trying to sell a fake anything, let them know it's not OK. Trying to make a living and feed your kids is a noble undertaking but ripping people off is not.
Country John
I have not been to TJ in over a year but when I went in the past few years I always walked to/from the Zona and felt safe alone at any time of the day or late at night. Never had a problem walking back to the border except for getting stopped and searched a lot. Is the situation the same now days? All this talk about recent violence makes me worry a little. Yes, I'm a cheapskate and I don't want to pay an extra $5 + $5 for taxi fares every night I go there.With all the violence lately (and from the urging of a couple of girls who suggested better to be safe), I've taken taxis back and forth. I actually liked the walk for some exercise, but personally I'd only walk now during the day.
Others probably knows the situation better, but seems like most of the violence has happened after midnight. Since they've got specific targets, mainly you'd just have to worry about being at the wrong place at the wrong time. The ratteros though, with a hurting economy are likely out looking for easy cash as well.
Remember, on the way back if you hang by Adelitas' entrance you can probably share a cab with anyone heading back.
While shopping on Revolution on my previous trip, I noticed that most stores that carry jewelry have imitation Rolex watches. They lowered prices on these watches to $30-$50. Has anyone purchased one of these watches and how reliable have they been?I have one in my room just for shits and giggles. You can haggle the price down to 100-200 pesos or so. A few years ago I got mine for $100 pesos. That $30-50 bones sounds too high IMO. Again, just for shits and giggle, most likely it will break down fast, mine still looks good at least.
If you want a imitation, I would suggest a high quality Rolex imitation, usually found online. Prices around $2-400 bones but they are as good as they can be.
Times are tough in TJ right now, but support vendors who do the right thing and when you catch someone trying to sell a fake anything, let them know it's not OK.
Country John
I assume there are way less tourists going to Revo now with this statement.
Is that because:
A. They are scared
B. US recession
C. Something else?
I assume there are way less tourists going to Revo now with this statement.
Is that because:
A. They are scared
B. US recession
C. Something else?
From my acquaintences, it's A. Scared may be too strong a word, but cautious and not willing to chance the BS. There are loads of stories of gringos getting ripped off on their way to Ensenada, or wherever. This sort of thing spreads quickly, and then everybody stays away, regardless of the real risks.
PP
How do you back to the border from Adelitas?
I mean how do you walk back to the border from Adelitas?
Country John
01-24-08, 17:56
Things have been going downhill in TJ and especially on Revolution for quite some time now. While the violence would be adding to the reasons to stay home, I think people saw quickly that it was a hustle from one block to the next and people got sick of it.
Think of Dizzneyland. It's all blue skys whe you walk through the gate but after getting fucked for everything from water to hotdogs, the luster begins to wear off quickly and you can't wait to go home. Many first timers to TJ experience this, so they get out and some never come back.
Revolution Avenue is not very "Mexican." It's very "hustle" with a spanish flavor. You can get that in LA. I think people are disappointed when they finally get there, similar to Hollywood. People get there, look around and say: "OK, let's go home." All the way in and all the way out you got street people putting the arm on them for money etc. Nobody wants an entire day of that. So the decline in tourism started a few years ago.
I am always impressed with how Hawaii handles the environment for tourists in Honolulu. Even though it is a State, I still feel like I am out of the country when I am there. Hawaii strugglrs to preserve its Hawaiian identity while towing the America line. They do a good job. Mexico is missing the mark in this respect. The Mexican culture is beautiful but the point is lost amid the dire financial straits all of the vendors (bars and restaurants included) face now and over the past few years. No mistake about it, Mexico is alive and well and living in Tijuana, it is missing at the point of purchase however. If people want to be treated rudely, ripped off etc., there are plenty of venues in the USA to achieve that.
That's my take, I could be wrong.
Country John
Things have been going downhill in TJ and especially on Revolution for quite some time now. While the violence would be adding to the reasons to stay home, I think people saw quickly that it was a hustle from one block to the next and people got sick of it.
Think of Dizzneyland. It's all blue skys whe you walk through the gate but after getting fucked for everything from water to hotdogs, the luster begins to wear off quickly and you can't wait to go home. Many first timers to TJ experience this, so they get out and some never come back.
Revolution Avenue is not very "Mexican." It's very "hustle" with a spanish flavor. You can get that in LA. I think people are disappointed when they finally get there, similar to Hollywood. People get there, look around and say: "OK, let's go home." All the way in and all the way out you got street people putting the arm on them for money etc. Nobody wants an entire day of that. So the decline in tourism started a few years ago.
I am always impressed with how Hawaii handles the environment for tourists in Honolulu. Even though it is a State, I still feel like I am out of the country when I am there. Hawaii strugglrs to preserve its Hawaiian identity while towing the America line. They do a good job. Mexico is missing the mark in this respect. The Mexican culture is beautiful but the point is lost amid the dire financial straits all of the vendors (bars and restaurants included) face now and over the past few years. No mistake about it, Mexico is alive and well and living in Tijuana, it is missing at the point of purchase however. If people want to be treated rudely, ripped off etc., there are plenty of venues in the USA to achieve that.
That's my take, I could be wrong.
Country John
Very well said. If one travels to other poor countries, one can get used to the hustle, or at least figure out how to deal with it. But, for the occasional tourist, it can get pretty oppressive. Add to that the horror stories of getting fleeced by TJ's finest, and I can see why people would stay away.
PP
How were you planning to get to the Adelita Bar from the border in the first place? I would use the same means to get back as getting there.
How do you back to the border from Adelitas?
I mean how do you walk back to the border from Adelitas?
Walk to the giant silver arch which is on Revolution blvd. Then go east and follow all the signs that say "To USA Border". Just keep going east. It's about a 12-15 minute walk. I would practice it in the daytime before trying it at night. At night, there's a good chance the cops will stop you and search you.
You can also go to the Adelita website and click on directions and you will get a map of how to walk to and from the Adelita Bar.
http://www.adelitabar.com.mx/
Walk to the giant silver arch which is on Revolution blvd. Then go east and follow all the signs that say "To USA Border". Just keep going east. It's about a 12-15 minute walk. I would practice it in the daytime before trying it at night. At night, there's a good chance the cops will stop you and search you.
Are SG safe as girls in AB?
In terms of STDs and shite.
Pumphernickel
01-25-08, 08:02
I mean how do you walk back to the border from Adelitas?I actually would recomending walking to Adelita's from the border the first time for two reasons. 1st you'll probably be doing it in daylight and it's not a reeally safe walk to make at night. 2nd, you can see the arches all the way there (even from the US side) so you'll always have a focal point if you make a wrong turn.
After you go though the border turnstyle go through the next turnstyyle to yuor right (most of the locals will be going that way while most Norte Americanos will go straiit through the next turnstyle towrad the cabs Once through the second turnstyle go left about a block to the sports book, cross the street pass the McDonlads and straiit ahead will be the pedestrion bridge.and the arches. When you get to the arches hang a right on Rev.a left on the next street. Adelita's is about a block and a haf on your left.
If you do decide to walk back go the same way but don't turn at the sports book. Walk past it and you''ll be on the bride that takes you to the border line. BTW, the walk in the daytime can fun. Food stands, hawkers selling theirr wares etc. but at night it's all closed and very dark. I always take a cab.
Also, see post #1467 on this board, Efjayel made a good map to get from their border to the Zona and back.
Have fun.
Country John
01-25-08, 16:45
Walk to the giant silver arch which is on Revolution blvd. Then go east and follow all the signs that say "To USA Border". Just keep going east. It's about a 12-15 minute walk. I would practice it in the daytime before trying it at night. At night, there's a good chance the cops will stop you and search you.
Don't be walking back to the border at night. Take a cab.
Country John
Here's my map again...
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6176/tjmapjy5.gif
The first time I went to Tj I used a taxi. I didn't tell them to take me to Adelitas since others have mentioned how they are coerced into going to other sleazy rip-off joints when the Taxi drivers know you are heading to the Zona Norte. I told the Taxi Driver to take me to the Arc. I said, "El Arco Por favor." Nothing else needed to be said and it cost me $5 bucks. From there, I walked to Adelitas using a map I printed out which I had previously studied for hours on end so I really didn't even need it. At the Arc go North then make a left at the first corner which is Coahuila and you're there.
My second time, I decided to save the $5 bucks and walk all the way to Adelitas. I wasn't about to pull out my map in front of people so I did the next best thing. I simply walked toward the Arc. You can see it from the border. This is how I found my route on the map. I didn't use a map I just walked in the direction of the Arc. It's simple.
Walking back to the Border, I took the same path but followed other people who where obviously tourists. That's how I found the border. Once you walk both ways you'll easily remember it the second time you're there.
Are SG safe as girls in AB?
In terms of STDs and shite.Risk is risk my friend. I'm sure everyone here will tell you that.
A large number of mongers here have been with both CG's and SG's meaning that the whole thing about "you sleep with everyone your partner has slept with" comes into play.
Pick your risk and wrap it up.
Country John
01-27-08, 02:09
Here's my map again...
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6176/tjmapjy5.gif
The first time I went to Tj I used a taxi. I didn't tell them to take me to Adelitas since others have mentioned how they are coerced into going to other sleazy rip-off joints when the Taxi drivers know you are heading to the Zona Norte. I told the Taxi Driver to take me to the Arc. I said, "El Arco Por favor." Nothing else needed to be said and it cost me $5 bucks. From there, I walked to Adelitas using a map I printed out which I had previously studied for hours on end so I really didn't even need it. At the Arc go North then make a left at the first corner which is Coahuila and you're there.
My second time, I decided to save the $5 bucks and walk all the way to Adelitas. I wasn't about to pull out my map in front of people so I did the next best thing. I simply walked toward the Arc. You can see it from the border. This is how I found my route on the map. I didn't use a map I just walked in the direction of the Arc. It's simple.
Walking back to the Border, I took the same path but followed other people who where obviously tourists. That's how I found the border. Once you walk both ways you'll easily remember it the second time you're there.
During the day the Arc is fine. At night, it's one of the most dangerous places in the Zona Norte.
When you get the cab, tell the driver to take you to Adelitas "And nowhere else." Do this before you get in and get his agreement before you get in. Adelitas does not pay a finders fee. Cabbies will try to make money etc.
I'd agree with you that a daytime approach and the directions you have given would be very helpful for him. It's just that he never really stated when he was planning on doing this (day or night) in walking back from Adelita. When I've gone to Adelita it was always in the evening so I would just take a cab.
I actually would recomending walking to Adelita's from the border the first time for two reasons. 1st you'll probably be doing it in daylight and it's not a reeally safe walk to make at night. 2nd, you can see the arches all the way there (even from the US side) so you'll always have a focal point if you make a wrong turn.
After you go though the border turnstyle go through the next turnstyyle to yuor right (most of the locals will be going that way while most Norte Americanos will go straiit through the next turnstyle towrad the cabs Once through the second turnstyle go left about a block to the sports book, cross the street pass the McDonlads and straiit ahead will be the pedestrion bridge.and the arches. When you get to the arches hang a right on Rev.a left on the next street. Adelita's is about a block and a haf on your left.
If you do decide to walk back go the same way but don't turn at the sports book. Walk past it and you''ll be on the bride that takes you to the border line. BTW, the walk in the daytime can fun. Food stands, hawkers selling theirr wares etc. but at night it's all closed and very dark. I always take a cab.
Also, see post #1467 on this board, Efjayel made a good map to get from their border to the Zona and back.
Have fun.
Smut Villain
01-27-08, 02:33
During the day the Arc is fine. At night, it's one of the most dangerous places in the Zona Norte.
When you get the cab, tell the driver to take you to Adelitas "And nowhere else." Do this before you get in and get his agreement before you get in. Adelitas does not pay a finders fee. Cabbies will try to make money etc.
I remember making the trip from Zona Norte to the border crossing at night, on foot - but this was back in the day. It was a bit frought with peril even back then but at least a reasonably sober gringo could make it with almost no problem (at long as he used a little common sense). These days, however, I would definitely agree with all who advise against doing this; the areas one has to travel during that trip have become even more dangerous since I stopped living there full-time, and now the cops are fucking with people in that area (they weren't doing this as badly back then as they are now).
Seems as if the only thing that hasn't changed since my heyday is that a gringo still has to watch his back in this part of town.
I went to AB this saturday around noon. Very quiet, probaly 30 girls and hardly 20 men. Took my time and finally decided to pay a LD to a cute brunette called Jessica. I always do this to chek the chemistry. Since the vibes were positive, I take her up. So far so good. She asks for money upfront, but I say no, and I have no change anyway. No problem. We undress, and the view of her tight body makes my instrument happy, and it shows.. and then, she kooks at it, stunned, and ask "Have you got a problem?" Before I could answer, she says " muy grande, muy grande, sorry no!" and start to dress and goes...
It's true that almost every girl I have been with, (and there are many, I am 60 and have been mongering since a while) has made a comment about my size, but never never have I been denied, even by the smallest tightest Thai or Singaporian girl!!
Well, not a big deal, I had not paid ( although I did not try to get back the room money...), but I did not feel like going back to AB, I suppose she would talk to the other girls, and that would become embarassing..
Instead I went to HK bar, and had a lovely time..
Has something like this ever happened to any of the respectable ISG members?
I went to AB this saturday around noon. Very quiet, probaly 30 girls and hardly 20 men. Took my time and finally decided to pay a LD to a cute brunette called Jessica. I always do this to chek the chemistry. Since the vibes were positive, I take her up. So far so good. She asks for money upfront, but I say no, and I have no change anyway. No problem. We undress, and the view of her tight body makes my instrument happy, and it shows.. and then, she kooks at it, stunned, and ask "Have you got a problem?" Before I could answer, she says " muy grande, muy grande, sorry no!" and start to dress and goes...
It's true that almost every girl I have been with, (and there are many, I am 60 and have been mongering since a while) has made a comment about my size, but never never have I been denied, even by the smallest tightest Thai or Singaporian girl!!
Well, not a big deal, I had not paid ( although I did not try to get back the room money...), but I did not feel like going back to AB, I suppose she would talk to the other girls, and that would become embarassing..
Instead I went to HK bar, and had a lovely time..
Has something like this ever happened to any of the respectable ISG members?
Lol, thats funny.
Just out of curiosity how big is it? The size of a cucumber? :P
By the way, what's and LD? Ugh... It bugs me when people start making up new abbreviations. I'ts hard enough keeping up with the current ones. Come on people, lets not add more twists to the tangle.
Anyways, did this Jessica have thick lips and can speak english pretty well but with an accent? If so, I've talked to her and bought her a drink once. Pretty cute from what I recall. I was sitting and she asked if she could join me so I allowed her too. She quickly started groping my crotch. I pulled her hand away and told her, "None of that." She gave me a surprised look and said, "Why not?" I told her I wasn't in the mood. But we had a pleasant chat. I ended up buying her three drinks just to keep talking to her. She ended up liking me as a friend. I had just finished a previous session otherwise I would have gone with her. I plan to go back and hopefully see her again.
Pumphernickel
01-27-08, 18:19
During the day the Arc is fine. At night, it's one of the most dangerous places in the Zona Norte.
When you get the cab, tell the driver to take you to Adelitas "And nowhere else." Do this before you get in and get his agreement before you get in. Adelitas does not pay a finders fee. Cabbies will try to make money etc.I didn't know that the arc was that bad, but if I have to walk Rev at night, it's become a habit to look over each shoulder regularly.
When I use a cab I always stipulate the location and the price (to Rev. or the Zona it's always $5 - though I'v heard it's about $3 for the locals) before I get in. If I'm going to Adalita"s the sell usually begins after I get in.
"What are you looking for Senior?" I say "Adelitas." Theni it's "You want a good massage? I know a good place." Then I say "Adelitas only, you can take me there, right?" and the conversation usually ends there.
Almost everything is a negotiation in Mexico. Even if I'm staying at a hotel that is questionable, I ask to see the room first (it's not uncommom there) and I find that they usually take me to the best room they have. Always establish the terms before you commit yourself.
Lol, thats funny.
Just out of curiosity how big is it? The size of a cucumber? :P
By the way, what's and LD? Ugh... It bugs me when people start making up new abbreviations. I'ts hard enough keeping up with the current ones. Come on people, lets not add more twists to the tangle.
Anyways, did this Jessica have thick lips and can speak english pretty well but with an accent? If so, I've talked to her and bought her a drink once. Pretty cute from what I recall. I was sitting and she asked if she could join me so I allowed her too. She quickly started groping my crotch. I pulled her hand away and told her, "None of that." She gave me a surprised look and said, "Why not?" I told her I wasn't in the mood. But we had a pleasant chat. I ended up buying her three drinks just to keep talking to her. She ended up liking me as a friend. I had just finished a previous session otherwise I would have gone with her. I plan to go back and hopefully see her again.
Yes, probably cucumber size...But there are all sort of cucumbers, so I doubt this gives much info..
LD is lady drink, sorry ,that's common abbreviation in other forums such as Thailand.
Could be the same girl: petite, short straight dark hair.. if you see her again, ask her, if it's the same girl, she should remember!
D Cooper76
01-28-08, 22:13
spent about 4 hours in the zona on friday. i got there about 3pm, parked behind jack in box, crossed the border and walked to fun-land.
i walk over because i like to check out a few shops, i rarely if ever buy anything but i like looking at the trinkets none the less.
i noticed a big change walking over this time. usually about 4 or 5 vendors will offer me valium, x, weed, and it always shocks me how brazen they are about it, but this time they were all conspicuously absent, and none of the vendors i talked to tried to get me to buy any naughty stuff.
got to the zona and the alley was pretty full with girls. a few of my favs weren’t out yet but i did notice some new faces. i finally located a fav and up we went. when we got upstairs i was greeted by a funny sight. about 3 girls were gathered outside the little room where their lockers and bathroom is. i guess the old door knob and rusty lock had finally given up and in the process had locked 2 girls inside the room. they were all commiserating on how they could get the door open. they looked at me sheepishly and asked if i could help. with a paper clip and a wad of chewing gum i was able to free the lock and release the girls who were very happy, i knew all those years of watching macguyver would pay off.
after i got the door open, one of the guys who works at the hotel comes from around the corner to see what the ruckus was all about, i don’t know why the girls didn’t just ask him to begin with.
after dropping my load, i cruised over to hk and watched a shaving cream show that was already in full swing with 2 hotties.
went by cc and it was as dead as i have ever seen it. i didn’t even completely cross the drapes, just got about half my body through and turned on my heels.
adelitas was surprisingly full of chicas, even hottie central, which is usually vacant this time of day. damn there were some stunners in there, and i made some mental notes on who i wanted to look for next time.
the sun was almost down, and it was getting dark, but i thought i would brave the walk back. lady luck was with me again and i made it across unrep001hed enough to right this report.
until next time my fellow mongers.
editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Ninguno Especial
01-29-08, 17:07
Seems like the Street Girl topic was hi-jacked by a series of posts about MP's such as Azteca of late. True Azteca is strictly 'legit' non-sexual but about 5 years ago there was one chica who gave GREAT hand jobs to the point of a happy ending. Alas she left Azteca and have not heard of her since. Point is that anything is possible, anywhere, any time but not to be counted on.
the rain finally stopped so i made a run for the border monday the 28th.
the chicago club was dead, with maybe ten girls rep001tered around the perimeter mostly chatting with each other. one listless chica at the bar never looked up from her cell phone game. drank a single tecate ($4.00) and chatted with a tallish, thin blonde who went by the name of geisha. even had it printed on a card. nice girl with good english. under different circumstances, i might have been tempted. but i wanted to escape the funereal vibe so i split.
next stop was the hong kong club. the main floor was moderately crowded, but the second and third were deserted. it's been awhile since i've been in there, and it appears the gross tonnage of the dancers is somewhat reduced. you won't confuse them with the hotties on road rules, but they're less bovine than they used to be.
spent some time with a elizabeth, a 20-year-old blonde from cancun with a big smile and smooth golden skin. her petite frame featured some nice natural tits and a cute butt, but a baby fat belly detracted from her appearance. we adjourned to the second floor, where some of the booths near the railing now feature a tiny stage so girls can dance right there in front of you. in between drinking a couple of mini-beers, i got a chance to admire elizabeth's totally shaved pussy and perky tits. she was putting the hard sell on me to go to the hotel, but i opted for one of the private dance booths on the third floor instead. elizabeth pouted and the dance was pretty tame. i got to fondle her young body, but she paid no attention to mr. wood. still, it was a nice tune up.
my final stop in the zona norte was the adelita bar. my tecate was $3.50, or 370 pesos for those of you who trade in the local currency. it was very slow, even for a monday night. took a seat at the main bar and cast my gaze across the expanse of empty tile in hottie central. the superstars were nowhere to be found, and the talent on hand was most disappointing. lots of second tier girls with too much makeup and pushup bras trying to fool the unwary, along with the usual chubettes reclining in booths here and there. did see one girl i thought was hot, a waifish brunette with a pretty fresh face wearing super low rise jeans, a bikini top, and flat shoes. she was definitely a nice antidote to the hoor parade, but she disappeared before i could approach.
went upstairs with mary, a compact girl whose enhanced tits and bubble butt were displayed to good effect in a very snug knit minidress. she had a nice face, blondish streaked hair pinned up, and glasses. (which i think are hot on the right girl.) the overall look was naughty business associate, which did more for me than the tj trollop look affected by the rest of the chicas. in the room and out of her dress mary had a nicely upholstered frame, a neatly shaved pussy, and a pleasant if workmanlike technique. the session was nothing special, but it got the job done, and the room wasn't that cold if you keep your black socks on like john seeman circa 1978.
the trip back across the border was remarkable for the absence of any cops lurking near the spot where the taxis disgorge their passengers. perhaps we can hope the days of the obligatory stop and frisk at the end of every trip are at an end. i entered the pedestrian inspection building reaching for my passport, while at the same time noting absolutel zero signs warning of the documentation requirements that will soon take effect. i predict that when they start requiring a u.s. citizens to have a drivers license *plus* a birth certificate it will be chaos.
one last point on a topic that's come up here recently. they have posted a sign advising that the bridge on the u.s. side that goes over the freeway will be closed on tuesday and thursday mornings from 2:00 a.m. to 5:00 a.m. that shouldn't be a problem for most of us who park in the preferred parking lot behind the jack in the box on the east side of the freeway, unless we begin our zona norte sojourn in the wee hours on those days.
bunky
Country John
01-30-08, 05:46
Seems like the Street Girl topic was hi-jacked by a series of posts about MP's such as Azteca of late. True Azteca is strictly 'legit' non-sexual but about 5 years ago there was one chica who gave GREAT hand jobs to the point of a happy ending. Alas she left Azteca and have not heard of her since. Point is that anything is possible, anywhere, any time but not to be counted on.
Didn't that get Aztec shut down a few years ago too? One or more of the girls were offering to supersize the massage without the knowledge of management and she got the place busted?? I can't quite recall but I seem to remember something about that.
Country John
Apparently there are other locations that should be noted like the Massage parlors and other things. I should add them to my map. Anybody have any suggestions on things to add? For one thing, where are the ATM machines, money exchange locations, massage parlors, the Casino, the better hotels and some great places to eat?
Suggestions? Tell me their locations and I'll add them to my map.
Big Bopperino
01-31-08, 00:21
Has anyone been to La Tropa lately? Any good?
Ninguno Especial
01-31-08, 02:17
Didn't that get Aztec shut down a few years ago too? One or more of the girls were offering to supersize the massage without the knowledge of management and she got the place busted?? I can't quite recall but I seem to remember something about that.
Country John
Could be but this chica didn't solicite. I heard about her extra service from an amigo and had to tell her I was a friend of monger X before she agreed to the service.
Lol, thats funny.
Just out of curiosity how big is it? The size of a cucumber? :P
By the way, what's and LD? Ugh... It bugs me when people start making up new abbreviations. I'ts hard enough keeping up with the current ones. Come on people, lets not add more twists to the tangle.
Anyways, did this Jessica have thick lips and can speak english pretty well but with an accent? If so, I've talked to her and bought her a drink once. Pretty cute from what I recall. I was sitting and she asked if she could join me so I allowed her too. She quickly started groping my crotch. I pulled her hand away and told her, "None of that." She gave me a surprised look and said, "Why not?" I told her I wasn't in the mood. But we had a pleasant chat. I ended up buying her three drinks just to keep talking to her. She ended up liking me as a friend. I had just finished a previous session otherwise I would have gone with her. I plan to go back and hopefully see her again.Yeah, I've put that fearful look on many a girls eyes. all of em in fact. One chick in Purple Rain (don't start with me, I like the place) told me she was gonna put my picture up to warn girls. lol But never been turned down. It's a gift and a curse though because girls don't like me to go fast or go too deep. That's why when I find one that takes it well I keep lookin for her.
I read this report from women who have been with guys of all sizes, yes they've even been with guys who have "dongs," and all voted prefference toward the average sized guy.
Do you fellas know if a photocopy of your birth certificate will suffice?
Do you fellas know if a photocopy of your birth certificate will suffice? I don't know for sure, but I would think not.
When applying for a passport the State Department requires a "certified" copy of the applicant's birth certificate bearing an embossed raised seal from the government agency that issued it. Given how easy it is to create a fake document using Photoshop etc. the requirement for a certified copy bearing a seal is sensible. I'm not saying the crooks can't fake the seal as well. But the average person probably lacks the capability to do that.
Anyway, given that a certified copy of a birth certificate is needed to apply for a passport, I suspect the official rule is that a certified copy is required as proof of citizenship when crossing the border without a passport.
Will officials at the border let you slide and accept a photocopy? Who knows? I suspect there will be some leniency at first. But the Department of Homeland Security seems bound and determined to require "WHTI compliant travel documents," regardless of the hassle that's going to cause at the world's busiest border crossing. So I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually take a hard line and require a certified copy of your birth certificate.
Bunky
Do you fellas know if a photocopy of your birth certificate will suffice?
I would tend to agree that I think you need the real deal with an official seal on it. The website for US Department says "proof of citizenship, such as a birth certificate" so I would say no copies. Like the old saying "If it ain't listed (photo copied birth certificates), it ain't legal!"
This is what the US Department of State website says...
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cbpmc/cbpmc_2223.html
LAND AND SEA TRAVEL
The following summarizes information available on the Department of Homeland Security’s website.
* JANUARY 31, 2008
U.S. and Canadian citizens will need to present either a WHTI-compliant document, or a government-issued photo ID, such as a driver’s license, plus proof of citizenship, such as a birth certificate. DHS also proposes to begin alternative procedures for U.S. and Canadian children at that time.
* LATER
At a later date, to be determined, the departments will implement the full requirements of the land and sea phase of WHTI. The proposed rules require most U.S. citizens entering the United States at sea or land ports of entry to have either a U.S. passport; a U.S. passport card; a trusted traveler card such as NEXUS, FAST, or SENTRI; a valid Merchant Mariner Document (MMD) when traveling in conjunction with official maritime business; or a valid U.S. Military identification card when traveling on official orders.
I'd rather not go through being hassled at the border and making my crossing the border any longer then need be, so I'd take my passport with me.
Will officials at the border let you slide and accept a photocopy? Who knows? I suspect there will be some leniency at first. But the Department of Homeland Security seems bound and determined to require "WHTI compliant travel documents," regardless of the hassle that's going to cause at the world's busiest border crossing. So I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually take a hard line and require a certified copy of your birth certificate.I crossed last night (so the 30th) and there was a guy in line with a photocopied Birth Certificate. Admittedly, the guard in my line was a stickler for stuff, since it turned out to be the slowest moving line. But that guard made the guy go to the secondary with the copy. He wouldn't wave him through.
Last night at about 6:30pm there a full crew (maybe 6-8 guys) working on VivaMex. They had guys working the interior, a guy on a ladder painting the front of the building and a working neon "Open" sign, but it wasn't open yet. Even saw 2 guys standing outside, a Latino and Caucasian guy surveying the work. I suspect one of the two were probably the owner, or maybe they were just fellow mongers like myself checking out the progress.
I still think Friday is very optimistic for an open date, but I could see next week if they get their plumbing done.
When the I saw the Open neon sign I thought it was worth a look, but ended up going to Azteca later. The time off must be killing VivaMex's masseuses, thought a few might be over at Azteca temporarily, but didn't see any the 3 times I've been over during the move.
Country John
02-01-08, 03:06
Do you fellas know if a photocopy of your birth certificate will suffice?
Original documents are required.
Ninguno Especial
02-01-08, 03:39
Original documents are required.
Or certified original. The birth certificates in some states are more or less decorative, very large with baby foot prints on the back side. LOL
I pulled a couple of certified copies years ago so I'm all set. I think this will get you through faster than a passport if your passport has a lot of activity the inspectors will just waste time flipping through pages and asking questions.
The B.C. is a small boring document so they will just look at it and let you go most likely. Much more compact than a passport as it folds up under the DL in the same wallet window.
Or certified original. The birth certificates in some states are more or less decorative, very large with baby foot prints on the back side. LOL
I pulled a couple of certified copies years ago so I'm all set. I think this will get you through faster than a passport if your passport has a lot of activity the inspectors will just waste time flipping through pages and asking questions.
The B.C. is a small boring document so they will just look at it and let you go most likely. Much more compact than a passport as it folds up under the DL in the same wallet window.
My original birth certificate is huge at about 8"x10". Not the thing I would like to lug around with me. And I just renewed my passport so I only have a couple of stamps for my recent trip to Brazil, so it shouldn't take me any time to get through! I hope!!! :-)
Country John
02-02-08, 03:35
Yeah but we're talking about your actural birth certificate on file at the county hall of records. You get a "certified extract." If you show up with a piece of paper from Mother of Great Agony Parish, it ain't gonna fly.
Returned to the Zona Norte on Wednesday the 30th, and I am pleased to report the girls appear to have returned in force.
First stop was the Chicago Club. It was a little more crowded, and there was even a girl or two worth looking at twice. But that place now has a ficha bar vibe and I find myself less and less inclined to spend any time in there. They REALLY need to re-examine their business model.
Next stop was the Adelita Bar about 9:30 p.m., where the selection was excellent. In addition to the usual girls with the usual look I was thrilled to see some chicas featuring a fresher, less tarted up appearance. Standing near the front door there was a super hard body blonde about 5' 7", with chin length hair and golden skin. She was wearing low rise jeans and a simple crop top, which displayed her amazingly fit body to excellent effect. She looked like one of the teen hotties you see at the mall. She was talking to a shorter, more petite girl who had shoulder-length platinum blonde hair and a banging little body marred only by the obligatory tramp stamp tattoo on her lower back. Again, the look was fresh and natural and a very nice contrast to the heavy makeup and hilarious outfits favored by the rest of the girls. In hottie central there was a brunette with chin length hair, a gorgeous face and a nice body stuffed into a skintight knit minidress. Back in the left rear corner behind the sunken bar there was a tiny little spinner girl with a stylish bob and the cutest little short shorts. And hanging out near the entrance to the mens room was another spinner who is a dead ringer for adult film actress Alexis Love, albeit slightly less well endowed. She was wearing her trademark outfit, which consists of impossibly tiny boy shorts and an equally small sports bra top.
It's always nice to seen half a dozen fuckable girls in the first ten minutes, but I was off to the Hong Kong Club to see if the post holiday lineup was there as well. Am happy to report that's the case. Spent some time sitting with Estrella, a thin brunette with pale skin and the smoky dark eye makeup that young women like these days. I was just going to buy her a drink, but the vibe was good and before I knew it we were up on the third floor making out like teenagers. The girlfriend experience was a nice change of pace, and the waiters even left us largely alone. Estrella was a definite sweetie, and before I knew it we were at the hotel for a great session. Too bad the room was small and dumpy even by Zona Norte standards.
Jumped into a Taxi Libre for the trip back to the border, only to discover there was no meter. I asked the guy about it, but I'm afraid my Spanish wasn't good enough to follow his explanation. But it's funny how bullshit sounds like bullshit, even if it's not in your mother tongue. His car was a death trap, even by Taxi Libre standards, and it died several times en route, the final time coming to an ignominious stop near the Yellow Taxi parking lot. I threw him a few bucks and walked the rest of the way. Inside the pedestrian inspection building there was a short line, but all seemed to be moving smoothly. I suspect that won't be the case on a busy weekend night.
Bunky
Depeche Mode
02-02-08, 06:01
Just wondering what you guys think of Purple Rain?
And on a totally different subject, looks like I might actually have to get a passport :(
Its gonna take so long.
Sotana Sot
02-02-08, 06:43
Any specific girls you guys recommend from VivaMex & Azteca and specific references.
I can say that Lizeth at VMx is a 6 at the looks, 8 in massage;
Mary at Az is an 8 at the looks, 8 in massage
Puple Rain is on the tourist Strip. I would definitely stay away from any and all of those clubs. From what I hear, they're total rip-offs cause they're exactly like U.S. strip clubs with the same price gouging tactics and no touching allowed and hideous girls.
Hey Bunky, did you use a passport to get through the line?
By the way, can someone tell me the locations of Vivamex and Azteca?
Two Dollars
02-02-08, 10:08
Just wondering what you guys think of Purple Rain?They charge a flat room fee (you can negotiate with the fat lady running the show who speaks perfect English), but then on top of that you still have to negotiate for any service with the girl in the room. The service I got was excellent, but still a ripoff compared to the standard places. The cabbie gets a kick back for taking you there.
Just wondering what you guys think of Purple Rain?
And on a totally different subject, looks like I might actually have to get a passport :(
Its gonna take so long.I happen to like the place. The girls are NOT ugly as Efjayel seems to think and there is no rip off. Beers costs less than at AB too so no rip off. 120 for a full hour with no room fee. let me repeat. FULL HOUR. No rush. I say check it out and judge for yourself.
I crossed last night on foot. Upon crossing to the states, I was asked to show my passport and/or birth certificate. I said I had no idea that they were required. She handed me a leaflet regarding the new security measure and slid my driver's license through the computer, gave a brief explanation and then allowed my passage.
I think you'll be able to cross by claiming ignorance for the next couple of months while carrying only a state ID.
Ninguno Especial
02-02-08, 17:56
If you show up with a piece of paper from Mother of Great Agony Parish, it ain't gonna fly.
I hear ya. What about "Mother of Pearl"? LOL
I used my certified copy of the B.C. last night, no problem, no questions, waived me on.
For those who are not citizens, will the permanent residence card be enough or will I still need a passport? I have a passport but obviously its not a US passport since I'm not a US citizen.
Also I was wondering, there is this place that has many mirrors on the outside. It's on the corner of Revolucion and Coahuila. I marked it with a blue box on this picture.
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3310/tjareaqd4.gif
One time when I was passing through there, there was a guy sweeping outside, he stopped me and mentioned that they line up girls and I could pick out any girl I want. And if I didn't like anything I see I could simply leave and wouldn't be charged anything. I didn't try but it got me curious as to what this place is. Massage parlor or sex club? Anyone been there? What exactly is this place and what kind of girls do they have there?
D Cooper76
02-02-08, 21:39
Efjayel,
I had the exact same experience walking past that mirror place. One time I followed a barker to a place that is across the street from Adelita, he gave the same sell as this guy. There was a line up and I got to choose, then there was I think a $60 room charge for the hour, and then I had to negotiate with the girl. She would not budge from $120, and I tried hard, but she was hot and I didn't want the mood to get any worse. Lucky for me she was a great lay, just super, but was kind of a rush, I don't think I was there the whole hour. This mirror place may be similar in operation.
Hey Bunky, did you use a passport to get through the line?I did, and I was quickly waved through. My totally unscientific estimate is that about half of the people in line with me had passports. They breezed through the inspection as well. The others spent *MUCH* longer with the inspectors. What they should do is have a special line for those with passports.
I see in another report that for the time being the inspectors are permitting people to enter even though they only have a drivers license. That's OK for now, but eventually you'll need a birth certificate as well. Get a passport, gentlemen. It's not that difficult.
Super Gato
02-02-08, 22:51
For those who are not citizens, will the permanent residence card be enough or will I still need a passport? I have a passport but obviously its not a US passport since I'm not a US citizen.
According to the sheet they hand out at the border:
"US Lawful Permanent Residents
Permanent Resident Card (I-551) or other valid evidence of lawful permanent residence is required."
Get a passport, gentlemen. It's not that difficult.
From my experience of geting a passport, its the equivalent of a trip to the DMV. Not very fun at all. Neccessary though.
I walked back today.
short line with mostly (90%) non-whites which is different from the usual 50-60% non-whites that I have seen. Please do not get this wrong as I am not being racist but just reporting data.
for efjayel.
that place of mirrors is OK. it is like a usual Massage parlor. you go in take a small left and the lady presents set of chics (maybe 5) and you pick one and away you go. My experience was not great so I did not go there again.
However, that street is not good to walk on after sundown. there are many other places that are safer.
By the way, can someone tell me the locations of Vivamex and Azteca?Vivamex is between 3rd and 4th on Revolucion.
Azteca is on 1st I think. It's near the intersection of 1st and Rev, but you have to walk about 100 ft from the intersection heading to the Zona Norte on 1st, and you'll see an entrance on the left side of the street to head up to the 3rd floor. Also, you'll see a big banner for Azteca on the top floor of the building on 1st & Rev.
Hi,
Could not find a more appropriate areas so posting here.
I will be in Tijuana tomorrow for a couple of days. Wondering if anyone can give me good contacts for any of the following:
- GOOD teeth whitening dentist
- GOOD permanent hair removal centre (laser/IPL)
- chemist selling steroids
- chemist selling HGH
- chemist selling Viagra/Cialis/Levitra
Any relevant costs/prices will also be appreciated.
will it be hard to take the steroids/HGH back into USA?
Thanks in advance
Azteca is not on 1st, but on 2nd. 1st is the same as Articulo 123.
Country John
02-04-08, 18:55
Hi,
Could not find a more appropriate areas so posting here.
I will be in Tijuana tomorrow for a couple of days. Wondering if anyone can give me good contacts for any of the following:
- GOOD teeth whitening dentist
- GOOD permanent hair removal centre (laser/IPL)
- chemist selling steroids
- chemist selling HGH
- chemist selling Viagra/Cialis/Levitra
Any relevant costs/prices will also be appreciated.
will it be hard to take the steroids/HGH back into USA?
Thanks in advance
Hi Kute Guy.
Lots of dentists in TJ. Whitening is something they all do now, you'll see many shops as you cross. There is a web site that will assist you: http://www.bestmexicandentists.com/. Check them out.
Regading steroids and HGH, I am not aware of any information that would be helpful as far as procurement. You might want to ask the Farmacia. I would expect that you would have problems crossing if they find it and you do not have your prescriptions in order. You will have problems here if TJPD grabs you and finds prescription drugs on you without a prescription.
The personal enhancement stuff is available all day long in Tj. I think one viagra is selling for $12. here.
Be safe and be nice
Country John
Supermonger2
02-04-08, 22:08
Hi,
Could not find a more appropriate areas so posting here.
- chemist selling steroids
- chemist selling HGH
- chemist selling Viagra/Cialis/Levitra
will it be hard to take the steroids/HGH back into USA?
Thanks in advance
Although cheap and plentiful, those items you mentioned come with certain risks. A body-builder buddy told me that in the US Customs lines, they look for buffed out Gringos to search them for steroids. Also Mexico cops often stake out pharmacies and vet supply houses (where steroids are sold) and wait to arrest and subsequently shake down those who buy. Same deal for Viagra--I'm not sure if it is a controlled substance like cops will claim but it provides them the excuse to demand a bribe.
Hi,
I will be in Tijuana tomorrow for a couple of days. Wondering if anyone can give me good contacts for any of the following:
- GOOD permanent hair removal centre
I don't have any personal experience but there are a number of places that do this. Google "depilacion laser + Tijuana"
I walked back today.
short line with mostly (90%) non-whites which is different from the usual 50-60% non-whites that I have seen. Please do not get this wrong as I am not being racist but just reporting data.
for efjayel.
that place of mirrors is OK. it is like a usual Massage parlor. you go in take a small left and the lady presents set of chics (maybe 5) and you pick one and away you go. My experience was not great so I did not go there again.
However, that street is not good to walk on after sundown. there are many other places that are safer.
Thanks for that info, but please, elaborate on your experience there. And is sex involved or just massages?
Thanks guys for the info - fingers crossed it all goes smoothly.
Azteca is not on 1st, but on 2nd. 1st is the same as Articulo 123.Oops, thanks for the correction.
Efjayel & Adventur, are you guys talking about Mermaids across the street from Adelitas?
I don't know. I've seen the bars in front of Adelitas. Never been in them but they seem like dive bars.
Alguem; The place I'm talking about with mirrors is located on this pix, the blue square...
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3310/tjareaqd4.gif
I don't know. I've seen the bars in front of Adelitas. Never been in them but they seem like dive bars.
Alguem; The place I'm talking about with mirrors is located on this pix, the blue square...
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3310/tjareaqd4.gifDo you mean the club La Tropa? A Ficha Bar like Tropical, Las Chevalas, etc.
La Tropa is on the corner with Revo. On Revo itself next to La Tropa is a massage place (like Mermaids, Luxor, etc).
Not sure on the name of it, I suppose it could be "La Tropa."
Massage place huh? I once saw a fat guy and what looked like his fat wife, waiting to get in. No sex involved there?
I'll probably be going this weekend, if so I'm going to write down the name and location of all these places.
The blue square is La Tropa. If you walk straight through the bar and exit out the back, you'll enter a courtyard, and across this courtyard is El Compamento (sp?), and this is where you can get a massage. They are both owned by the same person.
Massage place huh? I once saw a fat guy and what looked like his fat wife, waiting to get in. No sex involved there?Well both might have been getting serviced, or not. I don't know. But the place next to La Tropa is a sex massage place (perhaps not all the girls but at least 1).
OCTraveler
02-08-08, 06:05
Hey Country John or any other veterans out here ...
With the new laws regarding passport requirements, are border agents just looking and checking passports or are they STAMPING passports - makes a lot of difference (a stamp from TJ would bring serious questions from the Mrs.)
Be safe down there .........
They're not stamping passports.
Do you mean the club La Tropa? A Ficha Bar like Tropical, Las Chevalas, etc.
La Tropa is on the corner with Revo. On Revo itself next to La Tropa is a massage place (like Mermaids, Luxor, etc).
And this is the place with the mirrors on the outside walls?
Country John
02-08-08, 17:55
They're not stamping passports.
Roguesta is correct, they are not staming passports.
And this is the place with the mirrors on the outside walls?
You know I can say if it has mirrors on the outside. They have glass squares that make up a wall next to the entrance. But La Tropa (and the adjoining sexual massage place) is the only thing of interest at the intersection of Revolucion and Coahuila.
Since you said you're going this weekend, just walk on by. I hear La Tropa has a pretty decent lineup on a Fri/Sat night, but that the quality comes and goes from week to week.
Bigfreddude
02-09-08, 00:29
How has the return to the US been since the new requirement for docmentation was put into practice? Has anyone found it to take a significantly longer time to return from TJ? I'm considering a first visit to Zona Norte next Friday.
I'm new to this forum, but a senior member of USASexGuide. I appreciate all of the inoformation everybody has been sharing here.
I took a trip to TJ and I have to say things are a bit slower than what I'm used to seeing. Adelitas was semi full and when I went over to Cicago's it was really dead. I remember what one of the vets here said that it's a good time to negotiate and that's just what I did at AB. She would only go down to .5 but it was dropped and that was my point. I went to the alley later on and partook in one of the wall pickings. The cops are jerks over there and stopping drivers left and right. Good thing this board has all the info you need. Left my ride across the border and zipped through la migra pretty quick. Showed a DL and some other ID and had no problem.
Be safe!
Scooter Line
02-09-08, 16:56
I've been to the massage parlor next to La Tropa and Mermaids and was dissapointed with both. The one next to La Tropa had a nice selection of girls but the one I had, even though she had a hot body, was very cold. She complained when I told her I wanted a topless massage.(The guy on the street who brought me over assured me it would be naked.) Then when it came time for "extras" the prices she quoted were outrageous. I got the feeling she really didn't want to be there.
When I went to Mermaids the guy who brought me over assured me it would be a one hour massage. I picked out a girl and we went upstairs. After 10 or 15 minutes the girl starts pressuring me to pay for "extras". When I said after the massage was finished she told me the massage was finished. The "hour" massage promised turned out to be a 25 minute session.
I find it much more fun to negotiate a massage with an Adelita girl. It has been my experience that most know what they are doing and it adds to the sexual experience. Get a $3 bottle of oil and get a longer session. In the long run it is a better deal.
(The guy on the street who brought me over assured me it would be naked.)
When I went to Mermaids the guy who brought me over assured me it would be a one hour massage.Hope you've learned your lesson about the street touts. They get a commission to take you and will lie to your face to get it.
I crossed Wednesday night. On the way back in, I handed the US Gatekeeper my driver's license and he asked if I had my birth certificate. I said no. He tore me off a leaflet and sent me on my way.
Why make rules if you're not gonna enforce them? Whatev.
The place with the mirrors on revolucion north is La Tropa. The place on coahuilla west of constitucion is bar tropical. Where the +50yrs and +50K$s guys hang out! At least that was what I was told.
To answer a question posted a while back for me is that yes I was there (la tropa) a year or so ago. Yes I did get a normal sexo deal. The girl was not great at all.
But a OK place with some service.
Do not go there after low light.
The place with the mirrors on revolucion north is La Tropa. The place on coahuilla west of constitucion is bar tropical. Where the +50yrs and +50K$s guys hang out! At least that was what I was told.
To answer a question posted a while back for me is that yes I was there (la tropa) a year or so ago. Yes I did get a normal sexo deal. The girl was not great at all.
But a OK place with some service.
Do not go there after low light.
La Tropa is not a bad place. It's not AB, but it's off the beaten track a bit so it is possible to get a good deal there. I have never had good luck with massage parlors in TJ, and from what I have read very few other mongers have had good luck either. The one time I tried at La Tropa I was disappointed. However, one trick I discovered there is that some of the massage girls also work at the bar. They will go upstairs with you for the standard $50, but you can negotiate a one hour session plus massage for a little more (I think I paid $60 plus the room). Don't know why, but you seem to get a better massage and deal upstairs than you do in the parlor in the back.
At the MP in the back, they also used to have a "no hassle" deal where you paid a little more up front but the negotiations were all taken care of. Never did partake in that - too expensive - but it might be worth a shot if you are hell bent on getting a massage in TJ.
If you just want a massage without the extras, try the Massage Azteca on Revolucion - at $25 for one hour, it's a pretty good deal.
Blue Nose
Hey Country John or any other veterans out here ...
With the new laws regarding passport requirements, are border agents just looking and checking passports or are they STAMPING passports - makes a lot of difference (a stamp from TJ would bring serious questions from the Mrs.)
Be safe down there .........
OCTraveler and others. If you are worried about passport stamps or new passport requirements, here is a potential solution for you: as of this month, the govt is accepting applications for a "Pass Card", which is proof of citizenship and good for crossing the border into the US at LAND and SEA crossings (note: you still need a passport to get on an international flight). Since the Pass Card is just wallet sized, it cannot be stamped.
The cost is, I believe, $45 and $25 for current passport holders. You can get an application at the Post Office or check out the Dept of State website for more info.
Blue Nose
OCTraveler and others. If you are worried about passport stamps or new passport requirements, here is a potential solution for you: as of this month, the govt is accepting applications for a "Pass Card", which is proof of citizenship and good for crossing the border into the US at LAND and SEA crossings (note: you still need a passport to get on an international flight). Since the Pass Card is just wallet sized, it cannot be stamped.
The cost is, I believe, $45 and $25 for current passport holders. You can get an application at the Post Office or check out the Dept of State website for more info.
Blue Nose
Here is a link to the US Dept. of State with information on the new Passport Card for which they just starting accepting application on Feb. 1st 2008.
http://travel.state.gov/passport/ppt_card/ppt_card_3926.html
As stated, it is only good for U.S. land and sea ports-of-entry when arriving from Canada, Mexico, the Caribbean and Bermuda. But don't expect to see these cards until the Spring of 2008 as that's when they will be mailing them out at the earliest. US passports are never stamped upon reentry to the US but they are swiped through the Immigrations computer which is linked to a government database. At least they are when I return from another country via air. They may just look at the passport at the TJ border like they do if you show them two ID's (like your drivers license and birth certificate) now.
However, one trick I discovered there is that some of the massage girls also work at the bar. They will go upstairs with you for the standard $50, but you can negotiate a one hour session plus massage for a little more (I think I paid $60 plus the room). Don't know why, but you seem to get a better massage and deal upstairs than you do in the parlor in the back.
If you just want a massage without the extras, try the Massage Azteca on Revolucion - at $25 for one hour, it's a pretty good deal.Thanks Blue Nose for the tip on La Tropa's girls. Tried stopping by at 6pm one day and the place was pretty empty (4 girls, 2 customers). Bar Tropical definitely had a lot more business at that time of day.
Azteca was fine when I went there, but for some reason I like VivaMex better even though they are $25 for 45min. Just stopped in after the new move, and I like the look of the new place. Still lots of evidence of construction, and it seemed like there weren't many girls back at work yet.
As for massages in general, I've old bones, so even non-sexual they feel good and rejuvenating. Besides, I used to pay a lot more in the US on a fairly regular basis.
Some gentlemen have expressed concern about using their passports to cross on the ground that they might have a difficult time explaining multiple stamps evidencing their visits to Tijuana. This fear is unfounded. The authorities do not stamp U.S. passports when you enter. (Don't know about passports issued by other countries, but I suspect the rule is the same.)
The authorities may, however, "swipe" U.S. passports through a device that automatically records information regarding your crossing in a government database. In my observation, this seems to be a the discretion of the agent. Some merely look at U.S. passports and send you on your way. Others swipe the passport.
As I have noted in previously postings here, the government's collection of data regarding crossings that formerly left no paper trail implicates privacy concerns. Given the Six Degrees of Separation way that law enforcement databases work, I'm uncomfortable knowing the government can track my trips. Let's hope that the agents' lassitude will reduce the amount of data collected on us.
Bunky
Here is a link to the US Dept. of State with information on the new Passport Card for which they just starting accepting application on Feb. 1st 2008.
http://travel.state.gov/passport/ppt_card/ppt_card_3926.html
As stated, it is only good for U.S. land and sea ports-of-entry when arriving from Canada, Mexico, the Caribbean and Bermuda. But don't expect to see these cards until the Spring of 2008 as that's when they will be mailing them out at the earliest. US passports are never stamped upon reentry to the US but they are swiped through the Immigrations computer which is linked to a government database. At least they are when I return from another country via air. They may just look at the passport at the TJ border like they do if you show them two ID's (like your drivers license and birth certificate) now.
Thanks for the post. Yes, passports at the TJ land border can also be scanned although in my experience they are not always.
One thing I forgot to mention is that even though the passport cards cannot be stamped, they are "machine readable" just like a passport, meaning that a record of entry into the US will be kept in a database, just like a passport. At this stage in the game (post 9/11) there really is no way around this. Very soon (by the Spring of 2009) you will need a passport or Pass Card to re-enter the US by land, sea and air. At that point, the government will be able to keep an entry record of virtually every person who enters the country, regardless of the port of entry or the mode of transportation. The days of anonymously crossing back into the US are rapidly coming to an end.
Blue Nose
Thanks Blue Nose for the tip on La Tropa's girls. Tried stopping by at 6pm one day and the place was pretty empty (4 girls, 2 customers). Bar Tropical definitely had a lot more business at that time of day.
Azteca was fine when I went there, but for some reason I like VivaMex better even though they are $25 for 45min. Just stopped in after the new move, and I like the look of the new place. Still lots of evidence of construction, and it seemed like there weren't many girls back at work yet.
As for massages in general, I've old bones, so even non-sexual they feel good and rejuvenating. Besides, I used to pay a lot more in the US on a fairly regular basis.
Yeah, La Tropa is like CC in that it tends to heat up more at night. Saturday afternoons can be OK though in terms of having quite a few girls and few customers.
Never tried VivaMex, but I keep hearing good things about it, so I will take a look next time I am in the area. As for enjoying a massage with no extras, I completely agree with you - they feel great and are actually pretty good for you if you get them on a regular basis. And, yes, the rates in TJ are about 50% of what you will pay in the US - still expensive for Mexico, but of course we are paying the tourist rate. I am sure you could save more money if you ventured off the beaten track a little bit, but I have not heard of anybody doing this.
Blue Nose
Thanks for the post. Yes, passports at the TJ land border can also be scanned although in my experience they are not always.
One thing I forgot to mention is that even though the passport cards cannot be stamped, they are "machine readable" just like a passport, meaning that a record of entry into the US will be kept in a database, just like a passport. At this stage in the game (post 9/11) there really is no way around this. Very soon (by the Spring of 2009) you will need a passport or Pass Card to re-enter the US by land, sea and air. At that point, the government will be able to keep an entry record of virtually every person who enters the country, regardless of the port of entry or the mode of transportation. The days of anonymously crossing back into the US are rapidly coming to an end.
Blue Nose
Well unless your wife can somehow get a hold of this government information, I doubt she will ever know you've been frequenting Tj. I doubt it's anything to worry about. If anything, that information, if ever used would have to be in court of law for indictment. And unless you have something to do with the missing women of Juarez, I wouldn't think twice about it.
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