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Jackie888
11-16-20, 14:31
I only have a 2 level system. She is either sexy and I want her in bed, or she is not sexy and I don't want her in bed. Looks probably makes up for 50 percent and chemistry the other 50 percent. I'm unsure why people are so focused on finding a trophy or supermodel. Once it's over, it's over. There is no one to show her off to.

Hargow20
11-16-20, 18:44
My ratings are about the same. 10 Extremely hot 9. Really good looking. 8 Very attractive. 7 Acceptable 6. Below average, would not go with (fat etc.) 5. Ugly not worth a second look. 4. Hideous. There is quite a few 8 or 9's in the clubs. Few if any 10's. On the streets most of girls are 7 or below. There is a few 8's like Kathy. Elizabeth is about 8. The main reason I go with the SW's & SG's is looks and service. With Elizabeth, Olivia or Kayla I can be assured of good looks and great service.


I would say your descriptions are generally in line with mine. Except for a few minor differences. I would say 9=extremely good looking. 8=very good looking. 7=good looking but not even close to flawless. No 10 or 9 has ever stepped foot in the Zona. You will find one or two very rare 8. 5, usually at HK, every 2-3 years. They're may be 1-2 8's in the Zona on a weekday, maybe 4-5 on a weekend. The vast majority (80%) of chicas at HK and AB are 6-7. At CC / BT most are 5-6. The lesser bars are full of 3-5's.

KC Questor
11-16-20, 20:28
The whole rating system depends on if a guy is using a bell curve or a linear distribution. A bell curve would have a tiny proportion of women at the ends (1 or 10) with most centered around the 5 range (68% of women in a normal bell curve would be 4-6 assuming one point on the scale is one standard deviation). I'm more generous. I prefer a more linear distribution, and I am WAY more liberal with my 9's and 10's than it seems like most guys are. To me, a 5 would be an average woman across the entire population, including the crippled old lady begging on the side of the road and the abuela making tortillas down the street. I don't think I've ever seen anyone at Hong Kong who I would classify as less than a 6, with there being plenty of 7's 8's and 9's.

Now if we are using a scale that only included sex workers, I'd agree with some of the below rankings. But for me almost every woman in a zona club is beautiful in some way.

MmaufcFan
11-16-20, 20:43
I am bringing a female friend to Tijuana over Thanksgiving and would like to ask if anyone through an agency or through the clubs had their female friend come to the room to watch not participate just watch? I will assume there is an extra fee for this and I will ask when I get there, but anybody actually do this and what obstacles did you run into?

Thanks.

ClamSlammer
11-16-20, 21:58
I did a short Google. What is Jinx?Jinx is an esteemed member of this board, our distinguished mongering colleague who offers mongers worry-free transportation from San Diego to Tijuana.

ClamSlammer
11-16-20, 22:05
I only have a 2 level system. She is either sexy and I want her in bed, or she is not sexy and I don't want her in bed. Looks probably makes up for 50 percent and chemistry the other 50 percent. I'm unsure why people are so focused on finding a trophy or supermodel. Once it's over, it's over. There is no one to show her off to.I understand having a single rating system for chicas you don't find attractive, you can rate a "5" or "1" the same rating because they're both unfuckable in practical terms. But rating all fuckable chicas the same has a major flaw. Surely you would pay more to fuck a 10 then a 7, be it a nominal amount or hundreds more. So that is where your simple 2-tier rating system encounters an issue trying to reconcile obvious differences in chicas you're willing to fuck.

ScottHall
11-16-20, 23:09
I started going to Tijuana in 16 and my fresh eyes used to see some 10's in Adalitas and what not. There used to be some tall Amazonian looking girls with pretty faces and monster t and a. These girls would still be 10's if they were walking in a mall in regular clothes. Maybe my eyes are jaded and fatigued but I don't see as many girls like that anymore in the clubs.

SpeedToys
11-17-20, 02:34
Jinx is an esteemed member of this board, our distinguished mongering colleague who offers mongers worry-free transportation from San Diego to Tijuana.Ohh. I see.

I would be interested in this, but I don't have sure dates yet.

I did, but my knee surgeon slapped an office visit in the middle of it.

SpeedToys
11-17-20, 02:36
I only have a 2 level system. She is either sexy and I want her in bed, or she is not sexy and I don't want her in bed. Looks probably makes up for 50 percent and chemistry the other 50 percent. I'm unsure why people are so focused on finding a trophy or supermodel. Once it's over, it's over. There is no one to show her off to.The pro method.

I sort by physical attributes (Silicone is a hard no, never smiles, etc) and what's left will get in person interviews.

Jinxx
11-17-20, 02:52
I did a short Google. What is Jinx?Jinxx is a scholar and a gentleman. Offering cross-border transport direct from San Diego airport to your Tijuana hotel. Pm for details.

Covid2020
11-17-20, 04:04
Was wondering if you guys have any suggestions (places) on cheap vacation into Mexico, excluding tijuana. I would like to fly out from San Diego, a mix of mongering and some tourist places would be good. Plan to travel over the holidays last 2 weeks of December. Thanks for your inputs.

LuvMexicanas
11-17-20, 08:13
I'll be visiting Tijuana tomorrow Nov 16. Thanks for picking me up again Jinx. It's always a smooth ride without problems with Jinx for only 30 $.It's like clockwork and smooth like butter. On top of that, Jinxx is a cool cat.

StRobert
11-17-20, 10:34
New Covid vaccine from Moderna. Effective about 95%. The first vaccinations are already in December! Here is the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYfEvNEBBIs I will take a Pfizer vaccine in the left arm, Moderna in the right arm and a Russian vaccine in the butt and completely vaccinated to. Hong Kong!

MongerHunger
11-17-20, 10:44
MongerHunger.

Oaxxaca is only 200 miles South of CDMX. Did you fly down or take the bus?

For this trip, did you buy a 6-month FMM? Anybody check FMMs or passports for boarding planes?

Guys are afraid if they show any flu or CoVid symptoms they would be denied boarding flights to return to Tijuana and get stuck in Mexico for expensive cash treatments.

How did you arrange for these flights?

What are the screening procedures to board flights?As I mentioned before when someone suggested taking the bus to me, I am covering thousands of miles across Mexico and bussing is a no go. I use AeroMexico flights to every location. I booked every single flight online. The flight from CDMX to Oaxaca took only an hour. Of course I had to purchase a 180 FMM because my stay is longer than 7 days. When boarding planes anywhere in the world your identification and boarding pass are checked. There is absolutely NO way around it anywhere. How many times have you flown on a commercial airline? There is temperature screening and a questionnaire requirement before boarding flights. Everything is quite simple and straightforward.

RocksWithSalt
11-17-20, 14:35
Was wondering if you guys have any suggestions (places) on cheap vacation into Mexico, excluding tijuana. I would like to fly out from San Diego, a mix of mongering and some tourist places would be good. Plan to travel over the holidays last 2 weeks of December. Thanks for your inputs.I've been to quite a few Mexican cities in the last 5 years including Tijuana, Mexico city, Guadalajara, Colima, Manzanillo, Tequila, and Puerto Vallarta. If I had to pick one city for a vacation with mongering and sightseeing opportunities it would be PV. Large modern airport with many flights, Lots of lodging options, I did and AirBnB last year. But be aware that many rentals limit outside visitors. If you go read last years posts to the PV thread for tips on mongering spots to hit. Of course all my experience is pre-covid so YMMV.

Dickus Maximus
11-17-20, 18:12
Was wondering if you guys have any suggestions (places) on cheap vacation into Mexico, excluding tijuana. I would like to fly out from San Diego, a mix of mongering and some tourist places would be good. Plan to travel over the holidays last 2 weeks of December. Thanks for your inputs.Suggest you fly from Tijuana. You can use the CBX for convenience. Cheaper and more direct flights.

Captain Solo
11-18-20, 18:25
MMAUFCFAN.

Is this female friend good-looking? Is she a lesbian? Is she your FWB?

If she is a voyeur and only wants to watch she could stay home and watch PORNHUB on the large TV. If she's a real woman, she would want some real physical sex.

The escorts always look for ways to upcharge and will likely upcharge for FMF sessions.

TjBrazil
11-19-20, 00:46
My ratings are about the same. 10 Extremely hot 9. Really good looking. 8 Very attractive. 7 Acceptable 6. Below average, would not go with (fat etc.) 5. Ugly not worth a second look. 4. Hideous. There is quite a few 8 or 9's in the clubs. Few if any 10's. On the streets most of girls are 7 or below. There is a few 8's like Kathy. Elizabeth is about 8. The main reason I go with the SW's & SG's is looks and service. With Elizabeth, Olivia or Kayla I can be assured of good looks and great service.If ugly chicks want to get with you at work does that mean you're ugly or does she like your personality. I consider myself a 7, but there is this 50 year old nasty black chick at my job. She is 5 10 about 200 pounds. She keeps asking me out, and as you guys know, I only do 18 to 25 and they have to be a 8. I told her I'm not interested, but she is oblivious to No. She obviously has no Idea I have been banging hoties around the world for the past 15 to 20 years. Do unfuckable women just not realize they are unfuckable. I have no idea why she thinks I would ever be interested in her. [Deleted by Admin]

TjBrazil
11-19-20, 02:48
Was wondering if you guys have any suggestions (places) on cheap vacation into Mexico, excluding tijuana. I would like to fly out from San Diego, a mix of mongering and some tourist places would be good. Plan to travel over the holidays last 2 weeks of December. Thanks for your inputs.I just got back from Tijuana. Mexico is cold as fuck now. December will be worse. I would go somewhere else.

Dogers69
11-19-20, 04:29
If ugly chicks want to get with you at work does that mean you're ugly or does she like your personality. I consider myself a 7, but there is this 50 year old nasty black chick at my job. She is 5 10 about 200 pounds. She keeps asking me out, and as you guys know, I only do 18 to 25 and they have to be a 8. I told her I'm not interested, but she is oblivious to No. She obviously has no Idea I have been banging hoties around the world for the past 15 to 20 years. Do unfuckable women just not realize they are unfuckable. I have no idea why she thinks I would ever be interested in her. On top of that, black women hate white guys anyway. Why she is infatuated with me is a puzzle.That's great. Would love to see her reaction if you told her the HK hotties you bang. Some black woman prefer white guys. Just like some Tijuana woman only date gringos. I don't think woman view themselves as rough as we might, not the fatter ones. Yeah, there's 8, 9, woman dealing with depression from not being a 10, not being able to land that 6 foot 2 hunk at school. But the fat woman have a air of self confidence, truth is, even the 3, 4, woman can have 8, 9 Looking guys show up at her house for sex, new guy every day, thanks to the internet. If you could get endless attractive woman at your doorstep begging for free sex you would see yourself as a 9.5.

SpeedToys
11-19-20, 04:47
I just got back from Tijuana. Mexico is cold as fuck now. December will be worse. I would go somewhere else.Cabi isn't bad really, around Christmas it's. Warm. But not the WARM warm you really want.

If you're going soon, Cabo.

Rainman306
11-19-20, 04:48
I just got back from Tijuana. Mexico is cold as fuck now. December will be worse. I would go somewhere else.This semi-south locations can vary from having cold to warm weather from November to March. It can be cold one week and not the next, but it won't ever be totally frigid.

The west USA has been very cold.

I've been to Tijuana in both December & January. December was still pretty warm & January was colder, but not too bad.

StRobert
11-19-20, 05:47
By Reuters, Wire Service Content Nov. 18,2020, at 2:49 pm BY DAVID SHEPARDSON.

Washington (Reuters) - USA Land borders with Canada and Mexico are expected to remain closed to non-essential travel until Dec. 21 at the earliest amid a rising number of USA Coronavirus cases, officials in Washington and Ottawa told Reuters on Wednesday. Mexico's Foreign Ministry confirmed the decision later on Wednesday in a post on Twitter.

The current restrictions expire on Saturday and the three countries were expected to approve another 30-day extension, officials said.

The United States leads the world in COVID-19 cases and deaths, and cases are rising in all three countries.

The restrictions were first put in place in March to control the spread of the virus and have been extended on a monthly basis ever since.

"After reviewing the development of the spread of COVID-19 in both countries. Mexico proposed to the United States extending for one more month the restrictions on non-essential land crossings over their shared border," Mexico's Foreign Ministry said.

In Ottawa, a Canadian government source said the travel restrictions in place at the Canada-USA Land border would remain in effect for at least another month.

A USA Department of Homeland Security official told Reuters the agency was "continuing to look at appropriate public health criteria for a future re-evaluation of existing restrictions".

The restrictions are particularly painful for USA And Canadian towns along the border that are tightly intertwined.

Statistics Canada said earlier that USA Visits to Canada by automobile had plummeted by more than 95% in August from August 2019.

(Reporting by David Shepardson; Additional reporting by David Ljunggren in Ottawa and Noe Torres in Mexico City; Editing by Chizu Nomiyama and Peter Cooney).

MmaufcFan
11-19-20, 06:59
MMAUFCFAN.

Is this female friend good-looking? Is she a lesbian? Is she your FWB?

If she is a voyeur and only wants to watch she could stay home and watch PORNHUB on the large TV. If she's a real woman, she would want some real physical sex.

The escorts always look for ways to upcharge and will likely upcharge for FMF sessions.No, actually she is just a friend no benefits. Not lesbian, not bad looking when she dolls up, decent body. She is one of those busy prudish Chinese women.

I'm the freak that asked her to come watch me in action, thinking no way she says yes but she called me the other day and said let go over Thanksgiving, I had tickets already so she got a ticket. I get to fulfill a fantasy of having a woman watch me have sex with another woman. Win-win for me.

Are you going to be in Tijuana on the 25th, 26th or 27th next week we can meet you at the club, you'll see she is real.

Captain Solo
11-19-20, 18:34
MMAUFCFan,

You have to be very close to her to be able to ask her to come and watching you have sex. If she is normal physically, she would feel aroused watching and want sex. So, what are the reasons she is holding it up? Perhaps the fun, sexy, flirting, loving lifestyle in HK will loosen her up. May be I can show her sex is much better doing than just watching hehe.

I went to China many times over the years and have a deep affinity for Chinese women. Will be in La Zona next week and try to explain that to her. Looking forward to a very fun and satisfying Thanksgiving, may be the best one for our memory.

TjBrazil
11-19-20, 18:40
That's great. Would love to see her reaction if you told her the HK hotties you bang. Some black woman prefer white guys. Just like some Tijuana woman only date gringos. I don't think woman view themselves as rough as we might, not the fatter ones. Yeah, there's 8, 9, woman dealing with depression from not being a 10, not being able to land that 6 foot 2 hunk at school. But the fat woman have a air of self confidence, truth is, even the 3, 4, woman can have 8, 9 Looking guys show up at her house for sex, new guy every day, thanks to the internet. If you could get endless attractive woman at your doorstep begging for free sex you would see yourself as a 9.5.Interesting point. I never thought of it like that. If you're a 4, and 9's are coming over to fu because they have no game with the 8's, then that could make you think you're a 9 yourself. Do you think she thinks I'm a 9 or a 7 is the question. Or does she just have a white guy fetish. I don't have a lot of experience with black girls being in to me in the non mongering world. The question to the black guys here is why doesn't she take no for an answer. She asked me the other day if I use magnum condoms. Still flirting with me even though I told her I'm not interested.

MongerHunger
11-19-20, 23:11
I enjoyed visiting Cancun. Nice beaches, clear blue waters, great weather. There are 2 parts of Cancun. The hotel zone where the tourists are and the high prices and the city where most of the locals live and the downtown area. I suggest going on the all day all-Inclusive catamaran trip to the island of Isla Mujeres. All you can eat and open bar, Snorkeling, beach, parasailing, shopping, dancing, pure fun. I met some wonderful people on that trip. Totally awesome! Cocobongo is another place to meet some hot chicks. I went to Mary's Spa. Had a good time with a nice chica for 600 MX FS including massage. I would return there and recommend. If you want to shop get out of the tourist area and go to Mercado 28. Everything you need is there and negotiate for a good rate. Cancun is a place that I would return to and explore more. I definitely enjoyed it.

MmaufcFan
11-20-20, 04:22
MMAUFCFan,

You have to be very close to her to be able to ask her to come and watching you have sex. If she is normal physically, she would feel aroused watching and want sex. So, what are the reasons she is holding it up? Perhaps the fun, sexy, flirting, loving lifestyle in HK will loosen her up. May be I can show her sex is much better doing than just watching hehe.

I went to China many times over the years and have a deep affinity for Chinese women. Will be in La Zona next week and try to explain that to her. Looking forward to a very fun and satisfying Thanksgiving, may be the best one for our memory.Hilarious.

Implying1
11-20-20, 05:06
Hello all,

I'm coming to Tijuana for the first time in December, although I've done mongering in Bangkok / Amsterdam / Kiev. Been reading up in the various threads here.

I plan on staying in Cascadas and sticking to HK and streetwalkers, although I may try my luck with an escort.

A few questions I didn't find answers for:

1) What's the general practice on multiple orgasms (I guess it's called MSOG) if it's not discussed beforehand? If I pay a HK girl for an hour (or streetwalker for 15 minutes), will she try to leave immediately after the first?

2) The right thing to do to get good prices at Cascadas is to get your VIP at HK, reserve a room on a high floor in Cascadas, then reveal that you have VIP, correct? And Cascadas is generally trusted by streetwalkers?

3) Who do I need to tip / bother at Cascadas to get decent Internet to work on?

4) It sounds like I need to have both USD and Pesos on hand, because HK works on USD?

4) Anyone have experience with Mexico Lindo Bar's new special, specifically Pamela? $300 for 8-hour overnight sounds too good to be true.

5) Recommendations on your favorite petite / spinner girls?

KC Questor
11-20-20, 20:15
1) What's the general practice on multiple orgasms (I guess it's called MSOG) if it's not discussed beforehand? If I pay a HK girl for an hour (or streetwalker for 15 minutes), will she try to leave immediately after the first?Unless you pay more for a second round, you are done after the first. Even if you negotiate a longer time, you should make sure that includes a second go. Basically confirm everything in advance. Especially with a street girl. In the case of street girls, her initial offer is usually just her pulling down her pants and bending over for you to stick it in. If you want her to get naked, provide different positions, or give a BJ, those are all extra.



2) The right thing to do to get good prices at Cascadas is to get your VIP at HK, reserve a room on a high floor in Cascadas, then reveal that you have VIP, correct? And Cascadas is generally trusted by streetwalkers?Get your VIP before you go to Cascadas. It's mostly for convenience, so you don't have to go back and forth. Some people have said that they felt like they were denied a room with VIP on a weekend because the hotel thought they could sell it for full price. But that's not an issue if you have a reservation. So make your reservation on the web site, get the VIP card at HK, then go to the hotel and check in.

As far as streetwalkers, make sure you are using the right terminology. Streetwalkers are the illegal girls without health cards who walk around and solicit guys. They are usually drug addicts, and often have been deported from the US. They will go to any hotel you want in the zona. Street girls ("paraditas") are the ones who stand in one spot, and are affiliated with a specific hotel. They are legit, and are supposed to have health cards and get checked by the police. Street girls often will not go anywhere but their own hotel. Some will go with you to Cascadas but may ask extra, since they are losing the kickback from their hotel. Street girls who stand near Hong Kong/Cascadas are more likely to go there with you.



3) Who do I need to tip / bother at Cascadas to get decent Internet to work on?I can't imagine anyone at the front desk having the ability to guarantee decent Internet. I guess you could ask them which part of the hotel has the best service. I certainly wouldn't count on it -- I use my phone's data plan when I'm there.



4) It sounds like I need to have both USD and Pesos on hand, because HK works on USD?Pesos work just fine in HK, but you have to constantly be calculating. Prices are in dollars. It's a pretty easy conversion at 20:1, but depending on your exact rate it may be a bit better than that (which means you'll be saving some money if you think at 20:1). There are a lot more opportunities for meseros to scam you. A $9 ficha will be like 180 pesos, so you give them a 500 and they bring back a 200 peso note and a handful of coins. Are you going to count all those little coins to make sure they add up to 120 pesos? Also, you are expected to tip people about a buck. That's 20 pesos, which is a coin. Are you going to have a pocketful of 10- and 20-peso coins to tip the bathroom attendant, the robe guy, the cum boy, etc? Little things like that are minor annoyances, but something to think about.

It's less of an issue at 20:1, but when the rate is 18:1 or 19:1, you can screw yourself using shortcuts. I think it's easiest to just use dollars in the zona.



4) Anyone have experience with Mexico Lindo Bar's new special, specifically Pamela? $300 for 8-hour overnight sounds too good to be true.
5) Recommendations on your favorite petite / spinner girls?
I don't have any info on this girl, but $300 for TLN does sound pretty good. MLB is a reputable agency.

If you like them petite and young looking (but not underage!), check out Michelle. She is a street girl who stands at Hotel La Carreta across from the Azul balcony in Cascadas. She's not particularly affectionate and rarely even smiles, but she is professional and gets the job done. And she's cute and tiny. I have no idea if she is working now. She's been a fixture there for a few years but I haven't been to the Zona since February, but I saw a picture of her working in a mask back in July so maybe she is around.
Small gallery: https://imgur.com/a/9fK1GIL

Covid2020
11-20-20, 21:16
"After reviewing the development of the spread of COVID-19 in both countries. Mexico proposed to the United States extending for one more month the restrictions on non-essential land crossings over their shared border," Mexico's Foreign Ministry said.

Its funny that Mexico is requesting the travel ban extension.

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2020-11-18/us-travel-restrictions-at-canada-mexico-borders-set-to-be-extended-until-dec-21-official

YyzTravel
11-21-20, 04:12
I'm coming to Tijuana for the first time in December, although I've done mongering in Bangkok / Amsterdam / Kiev. Been reading up in the various threads here.Thank you for this, otherwise, the first answer from everyone is RTFF.


I plan on staying in Cascadas and sticking to HK and streetwalkers, although I may try my luck with an escort.Cascadas is a solid place for about 7-10 days, after that, it gets old and you really want to get out and see more of Tijuana. I stay here almost every trip (or with my GF down here).


1) What's the general practice on multiple orgasms (I guess it's called MSOG) if it's not discussed beforehand? If I pay a HK girl for an hour (or a streetwalker for 15 minutes), will she try to leave immediately after the first?MSOG with street or club girls is a no-go. Once you cum they are out. Escorts yes if you talk about in advance. If you pay for one hour, if you cum at minute 5 they will try to leave. Not all but MOST of these girls are hustlers just as much as you are a monger. There are rare exceptions, but for the majority, it's "cum papi" with 90% of them. They start that shit, and I tell them I'm not paying, or shut up and let me fuck them. Once the rush starts, I pound and abuse that pussy at that point. One HK girl the other night was doing that thing where she closes her legs to not let me all the way in or turning and shit, if they do that shit call them outright then or say you won't pay if they don't stop.


2) The right thing to do to get good prices at Cascadas is to get your VIP at HK, reserve a room on a high floor in Cascadas, then reveal that you have VIP, correct? And Cascadas is generally trusted by streetwalkers?
3) Who do I need to tip / bother at Cascadas to get decent Internet to work on?
4) It sounds like I need to have both USD and Pesos on hand, because HK works on USD?Get your VIP card. It pays for itself with the hotel. The rest of the perks are a bit of a joke. If you come on a Mon or Tue, be here at 3 pm, they won't let you check in early, and if you are late you will get a shit room, or worse they will pass you off to a room that is less than you paid for. Internet here is touch and go, you can't tip better to make it work, period. If you need solid WIFI like I do for work, splurge and pay $50 on amazon for a 1 week unlimited sim card and just tether to your phone. As far as pesos, I do both pesos and dollars. Street girls will huster and say "40 bucks baby", then I offer 500 pesos (which is 25) and they take it. I like $$ for high end girls and tips, but pesos for food, shopping and SGS.

Good luck and happy mongering. PM me if you want any more specific advice.

Hargow20
11-21-20, 04:29
It is a good way for Mexico to make US citizens keep purchasing those quasi FMM / Visa's.


"After reviewing the development of the spread of COVID-19 in both countries. Mexico proposed to the United States extending for one more month the restrictions on non-essential land crossings over their shared border," Mexico's Foreign Ministry said.

Its funny that Mexico is requesting the travel ban extension.

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2020-11-18/us-travel-restrictions-at-canada-mexico-borders-set-to-be-extended-until-dec-21-official

ClamSlammer
11-21-20, 13:43
Got to HK at 11:15. The alley entrances to HK and Chavelas were both shuttered. Had to enter Coahuila side. There was a short line to get in so we entered through Chavelas. Wasn't a long visit because they shut down at 11:30 and pushed everyone upstairs to Cascadas. Miami Room and the new west wing were both closed. The ROA on the new wing isn't looking too good right now. HK and the entire Zona had a lighter crowd than I anticipated for a weekend. After HK closed at 11:30 we went over to CC. Was there maybe 15 minutes before they pushed the crowd upstairs. I did spot a pretty hot flaquita with black hair wearing a sheer white dress. Had a bunch of faded tatts on her arms though. Decided to head over to Rizo. Rizo had their 3rd floor open. It was basically the same setup as the normal 2nd floor, except it was quite empty. I didn't see any hot chicas at all. Stayed for about an hour then hit Cascadas around 1:30. They charged a $5 cover which included a can of Tecate. It was about as expected. Sasha was there, she looked better and back to being thinner like she was 6 years ago. There was this 18 year old hot blonde that I started pursuing right before covid. I think it was her first week at HK. Anyway, covid descended and she disappeared. She was back and started to heavily flirt with me. I didn't recognize her at first but after a while I remembered. She kept on suggesting to go arriba, kind of relentless. There were a couple other chicas that were quite insistent that we go arriba. Honestly I'm not used to this kind of pressure at HK, most of the chicas that I talk to seem content just chatting and drinking. Anyhow, when one is used to the more friendlier confines of the club, later that same night it's more difficult to adjust to the cramped penthouse quarters. Stayed till about 3 am, going to try to get an earlier start next time to enjoy extended time in the main club.

BroncosRob
11-22-20, 23:35
Can you still walk across without any Mexican officials stopping you? I was thinking about going but only have ID.

Hargow20
11-23-20, 00:16
No, chances are the mexican immigration will turn you back. The best thing to do is go passport processing center at UCSD or somewhere else. They will give you a receipt of application. Take this with you and the Mexican immigration will make you purchase a qusasi FMM / Visa for $30.


Can you still walk across without any Mexican officials stopping you? I was thinking about going but only have ID.

BroncosRob
11-23-20, 00:23
No, chances are the mexican immigration will turn you back. The best thing to do is go passport processing center at UCSD or somewhere else. They will give you a receipt of application. Take this with you and the Mexican immigration will make you purchase a qusasi FMM / Visa for $30.I'm only in town visiting for a week. Are you saying zero chance ill be able to cross? Precovid was so easy.

Jinxx
11-23-20, 00:38
Can you still walk across without any Mexican officials stopping you? I was thinking about going but only have ID.If you look like you could pass for a Mexican or blend in with Mexican people you could try to just go through the lane for mexican passport holders. Many times officials don't even check you at all in that lane. The worst that could happen is if they catch you you just act lost and confused and end up bribing them 20 bucks maximum to let you pass.

Scbb1
11-23-20, 00:47
No, chances are the mexican immigration will turn you back. The best thing to do is go passport processing center at UCSD or somewhere else. They will give you a receipt of application. Take this with you and the Mexican immigration will make you purchase a qusasi FMM / Visa for $30.Just get a passport card at any post office, it is cheaper than a passport book. It takes about 3-6 weeks to get it.

Dogers69
11-23-20, 04:38
Can you still walk across without any Mexican officials stopping you? I was thinking about going but only have ID.You can 100% definitely go to Mexico with no passport. I went 6 times this summer. If, you choose to, otay only has 1 line. So if they stop you, you were not in the wrong line. At that point ask to buy the 20 bucks day pass. Just say your coming back at 5 am. Don't say "hey bro can I slip you a $20? The fact that the $20 pass is probably a bribe and not official is not our business. . if you go to san Ysidro, with suitcase, probably gone get checked. No suitcase, and walk on Mexican line looking as gringo, 60% time I get checked. Looking like Latino, no suitcase, probably get stopped 30% time at most, if you don't look anyone in eye, or look at them at all, and walk with purpose, like you been through 1000 times. If you just go to main gringo line, and go before noon with copy dental appointment you can ask for 20 dollar pass. They probably will sell it to you. Its for no passport people. They say 1 day so don't say, "I'm going to HK to bang chicks for 4 days" . Mexican border does not like or respect mongers. We are rich pieces crap to them. If Mexico denies you entry they have to find someone to walk you back. They don't like to do that. They'd rather have your 20 bucks. I made them walk me back few times as I was only going to save on hotel and 20 bucks fee made it pointless to go to Mexico.

StRobert
11-23-20, 08:03
Can you still walk across without any Mexican officials stopping you? I was thinking about going but only have ID.With only ID you will have problems returning to the US because a passport or passport card is required - (possibly an interview inside the CBP office to verify your identity.).

Hargow20
11-23-20, 18:20
I have seen the white taxi vans with the yellow stripe in the Zona. I will sometimes catch the these vans and get off by 4th & Revolucion. I have tried catching the vans in the Zona, but they ignore me. I have seen the vans line up by Madero & Primera st. So I am wondering where I catch the vans to go back to the border.

Artisttyp
11-23-20, 19:33
So I am wondering where I catch the vans to go back to the border.Across the street from the Mc Donalds in Plaza Santa Cecelia there is a 7 /11 Store. The vans pass directly in front of 7/11. Technically that would be the corner of 2 nda and Constitution. It lets you off at Ped East.

Captain Solo
11-23-20, 19:57
Artiste,

Good info to know in case I need a ride back to the border.

I figure Plaza Santa Cecilia is the alley with lots of trinket shops and colorful banners overhead? If that's the spot, across from McDonalds is Farmacia International. They sell all sots of meds cheap, brand names and generic, without scripts.

What time at night do vans stop running?
TE]

BroncosRob
11-23-20, 20:53
If you look like you could pass for a Mexican or blend in with Mexican people you could try to just go through the lane for mexican passport holders. Many times officials don't even check you at all in that lane. The worst that could happen is if they catch you you just act lost and confused and end up bribing them 20 bucks maximum to let you pass.So does everyone always get stopped?

Does bribing usually work?

Dcrist0527
11-23-20, 23:00
... ask to buy the 20 bucks day pass. Just say your coming back at 5 am. Don't say "hey bro can I slip you a $20? The fact that the $20 pass is probably a bribe and not official is not our business... They probably will sell it to you. Its for no passport people. Once again, Dogers coming through with bad information. Ignoring the fact that Dogers contradicts himself, saying that it is a bribe and a pass for no passport people. You just got to laugh at this guy. Truth is, there is no such thing as a "no passport people pass". If you arrive at Mexico without a passport, one of three things will happen.

1. They can just turn you away. I do not know the rate at which people are turned away. I have never seen it but it is very rare I've seen someone have that discussion.

2. They may let you right through. I have seen that happen to people after a mild reprimand to "bring it next time."

3. They may "force" you to pay a $30 fee for the 180-day FMM. This is not a bribe. It is a legitimate requirement for stays beyond 7-days. Migration officials are taking advantage of the fact that the border is closed to non-essential traffic. So while you may not need 180-days, it might satisfy the migration official enough to let you in.

As for bribing anyone, it is Mexico. Money talks. Your success may vary. But please do not listen to Dogers; there is no such thing as a "day pass".

Artisttyp
11-23-20, 23:39
Artiste,

Good info to know in case I need a ride back to the border.

I figure Plaza Santa Cecilia is the alley with lots of trinket shops and colorful banners overhead?
What time at night do vans stop running?
TE]Yes. I am not sure if those run 24/7 but would assume they go to at least 12 am or maybe a little later. Considering workers use the same route to get across. If you think of it next time you are on that corner ask one of the transit workers standing around to verify the hours of operation for you.

SpeedToys
11-24-20, 00:51
So does everyone always get stopped?

Does bribing usually work?This is so cute.

*pinches the rosy cheeks*.

Dogers69
11-24-20, 05:53
Once again, Dogers coming through with bad information. Ignoring the fact that Dogers contradicts himself, saying that it is a bribe and a pass for no passport people. You just got to laugh at this guy. Truth is, there is no such thing as a "no passport people pass". If you arrive at Mexico without a passport, one of three things will happen.

1. They can just turn you away. I do not know the rate at which people are turned away. I have never seen it but it is very rare I've seen someone have that discussion.

2. They may let you right through. I have seen that happen to people after a mild reprimand to "bring it next time."

3. They may "force" you to pay a $30 fee for the 180-day FMM. This is not a bribe. It is a legitimate requirement for stays beyond 7-days. Migration officials are taking advantage of the fact that the border is closed to non-essential traffic. So while you may not need 180-days, it might satisfy the migration official enough to let you in.

As for bribing anyone, it is Mexico. Money talks. Your success may vary. But please do not listen to Dogers; there is no such thing as a "day pass".Ignore this poster who hasn't crossed without a passport maybe ever. A lot of posters speak not from personal experience in recent years anyway. I crossed 8 times in August with no passport. Every single time the same 20 dollar fee was explained, by 8 different people, at 2 different borders. Twice I refused to pay, maybe 6 times I paid, maybe 3 times I walked in on Mexican line as a Mexican. Again, some posters get their info on the ground, real life, others get it from decades old word of mouth. Also Mexico will not sell you the 6 month visa without a passport. That's what they told me. And offering bribes is illegal. That's why I say, don't offer a bribe, just ask to buy the 20 dollar day pass, this way, it doesn't sound like a bribe.

Hargow20
11-25-20, 00:21
I have seen people turned away without a passport on multiple occasions.


Once again, Dogers coming through with bad information. Ignoring the fact that Dogers contradicts himself, saying that it is a bribe and a pass for no passport people. You just got to laugh at this guy. Truth is, there is no such thing as a "no passport people pass". If you arrive at Mexico without a passport, one of three things will happen.

1. They can just turn you away. I do not know the rate at which people are turned away. I have never seen it but it is very rare I've seen someone have that discussion.

2. They may let you right through. I have seen that happen to people after a mild reprimand to "bring it next time."

3. They may "force" you to pay a $30 fee for the 180-day FMM. This is not a bribe. It is a legitimate requirement for stays beyond 7-days. Migration officials are taking advantage of the fact that the border is closed to non-essential traffic. So while you may not need 180-days, it might satisfy the migration official enough to let you in.

As for bribing anyone, it is Mexico. Money talks. Your success may vary. But please do not listen to Dogers; there is no such thing as a "day pass".

Captain Solo
11-25-20, 00:40
Artiste.

UBER costs only $2.50 from HK to the border.

The streets to that neighborhood and the surrounding area are very sketchy at night. I would hate to walk through the ghetto after midnight and wait an hour for the van. It can be used only as a convenience during the day time and early evening.

Dcrist0527
11-25-20, 03:24
I crossed 8 times in August with no passport. Every single time the same 20 dollar fee was explained, by 8 different people, at 2 different borders. Twice I refused to pay, maybe 6 times I paid, maybe 3 times I walked in on Mexican line as a Mexican.2+6+3=8? Got it.

If you care to read more carefully, I explained what my experiences have been. Not word of mouth. And no, I've not gone across without a passport.

6 times you've paid $20 to go in? And every time you left because a girl wouldn't agree to your price? Better yet, girls have punched you in the face because you wouldn't tip them? Man, if you want to waste $20, buy me a beer with it. You won't get lucky with me but I promise not to punch you.

Dogers69
11-25-20, 20:18
Border line terrible today Wednesday. Normally after 10 am it may just be hour half, maybe even to 3 if you show up at 9. But there's many thousands people going now for shopping season, it will be this bad every day till Christmas. It looked like a 3 to 3.5 hour wait on foot. I paid the medical pass scam for first time and that's a awful idea its 1000 x more dangerous covid wise than hk 7th floor. No windows on bus, no air, 45 minutes, every seat taken some guy sitting in aisle next to me talking to everyone no mask on several. Still took 1.5 hour paying the 7 bucks by time you factor walking to their bus. Only thing to do now, is leave Tijuana at night, by 4 am I think its bad.

Artisttyp
11-25-20, 22:15
Artiste.

UBER costs only $2.50 from HK to the border.

The streets to that neighborhood and the surrounding area are very sketchy at night. I would hate to walk through the ghetto after midnight and wait an hour for the van. It can be used only as a convenience during the day time and early evening.You wanted bus information I gave you bus info.

A private car is always a better idea.

BrotherMouzone
11-26-20, 07:07
Once again, Dogers coming through with bad information. Ignoring the fact that Dogers contradicts himself, saying that it is a bribe and a pass for no passport people. You just got to laugh at this guy. Truth is, there is no such thing as a "no passport people pass". If you arrive at Mexico without a passport, one of three things will happen.

1. They can just turn you away. I do not know the rate at which people are turned away. I have never seen it but it is very rare I've seen someone have that discussion.

2. They may let you right through. I have seen that happen to people after a mild reprimand to "bring it next time."

3. They may "force" you to pay a $30 fee for the 180-day FMM. This is not a bribe. It is a legitimate requirement for stays beyond 7-days. Migration officials are taking advantage of the fact that the border is closed to non-essential traffic. So while you may not need 180-days, it might satisfy the migration official enough to let you in.

As for bribing anyone, it is Mexico. Money talks. Your success may vary. But please do not listen to Dogers; there is no such thing as a "day pass".Well I can say from personal experience that since COVID earlier this year I've tried to get into Tijuana twice from the USA (walking through the San Ysidro border) - both times with an expired passport (expired this past May). The first time (July 4 holiday weekend) I was sent into a side room where a customs official charged me $30 to cross because my passport was expired. The second time (mid-September) I was sent into the same side room with the same customs official (who I recognized from the previous time) who this time charged me "only" $20 to cross. Both times I was told come with a valid, renewed passport "next time". I was also not given an FMM pass for either trip. Despite explicitly asking for one both times. I was just told that I didn't need one and was good to stay in Mexico for 7 days. (My excuse for being in Mexico was that I was going to be there just a couple days for multiple dentist appointments.) Really felt like I was essentially paying a bribe to cross both times LOL.

Captain Solo
11-26-20, 19:06
BrotherMouzone.

The $30-40 cash payments for nonexistent FMMs are exactly just shakedowns by greedy Immigracion assholes knowing single guys go to Tijuana for girls and have money to spare. They just pocket millions $ of that money and spend it on putas, booze and drugs. AMLO would never see a penny from it.

The bros should insist on seeing and talking to their supervisors or managers on site, taking notes, writing down names. That would put the fear in them, stop their bullshit and their shakedown conspiracy.

They should write letters to AMLO's government, Tijuana's mayor, BCN's governor, Tijuana's and San Diego's press to screw the greedy IMM assholes who harass visitors, impede commerce and damage the reputation of Mexico and her fine people. The bros should alert the press to monitor ISG and other sources for complaints against this conspiracy to abuse their authority and stealing from the Mexico's government.

Thunder12
11-26-20, 22:33
Well I can say from personal experience that since COVID earlier this year I've tried to get into Tijuana twice from the USA (walking through the San Ysidro border) - both times with an expired passport (expired this past May). The first time (July 4 holiday weekend) I was sent into a side room where a customs official charged me $30 to cross because my passport was expired. The second time (mid-September) I was sent into the same side room with the same customs official (who I recognized from the previous time) who this time charged me "only" $20 to cross. Both times I was told come with a valid, renewed passport "next time". I was also not given an FMM pass for either trip. Despite explicitly asking for one both times. I was just told that I didn't need one and was good to stay in Mexico for 7 days. (My excuse for being in Mexico was that I was going to be there just a couple days for multiple dentist appointments.) Really felt like I was essentially paying a bribe to cross both times LOL.I got hit with the same thing while crossing into Tijuana in September. I've crossed a million times without issue, but this one specific time in September the customs guy took me to the back room and asked for $60 because "I cross into Mexico too often". I didn't have cash so he directed me to the ATM in the hallway. The ATM was broken LOL. I went back and said ok, now what? He told me to come back tomorrow and pay the $60. I collected my passport and ignored his request, but he had already given me the FMM paper in my passport. Got into Mexico!

Dogers69
11-27-20, 01:45
People are saying san Ysidro trolley border USA not letting pedestrians return 10 pm till like 5 am. But otay staying open. Of course at night was only way to avoid hours of lines.

BrotherMouzone
11-27-20, 03:17
BrotherMouzone.

The $30-40 cash payments for nonexistent FMMs are exactly just shakedowns by greedy Immigracion assholes knowing single guys go to Tijuana for girls and have money to spare. They just pocket millions $ of that money and spend it on putas, booze and drugs. AMLO would never see a penny from it.

The bros should insist on seeing and talking to their supervisors or managers on site, taking notes, writing down names. That would put the fear in them, stop their bullshit and their shakedown conspiracy.

They should write letters to AMLO's government, Tijuana's mayor, BCN's governor, Tijuana's and San Diego's press to screw the greedy IMM assholes who harass visitors, impede commerce and damage the reputation of Mexico and her fine people. The bros should alert the press to monitor ISG and other sources for complaints against this conspiracy to abuse their authority and stealing from the Mexico's government.I generally agree and you have a great point, though for my specific situation I had no leverage given that I was trying to enter Mexico with an expired passport LOL. Don't really have much of a leg to stand on when you're effectively trying to enter the country illegally so paying the $20/$30 fee was IMO my best option if I wanted to enter the country, not threatening to talk to his supervisor when I don't even have a valid passport (my passport right now is with the Dept. Of State in the process of getting renewed so hopefully I won't have this problem going forward).

StRobert
11-27-20, 08:43
"Medicalxpress" November 24,2020 Mexico aims to begin coronavirus vaccinations next month.

Credit: Pixabay / CC0 Public Domain.

Mexico said Tuesday that it aims to start coronavirus vaccinations next month in the Latin American country, which has one of the world's highest COVID-19 death tolls. Link here https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-11-mexico-aims-coronavirus-vaccinations-month.html.

The government has signed deals with major pharmaceutical companies, including Pfizer, which with its German partner BioNTech on Friday sought US regulatory approval for its vaccine.

If everything goes to plan and the vaccine is approved, "Mexico will also start its process (of immunization) in December," Foreign Minister Marcelo Ebrard told reporters.

The vaccine is expected to be available in the middle of next month in the United States and arrive in Mexico a few days later, he said.

The government has promised to make vaccination available to the whole country free of charge. Priority will be given to medical personnel and vulnerable groups.

A major challenge for Mexico is that Pfizer's vaccine needs to be stored at -70 degrees Celsius (- 94 degrees Fahrenheit).

Mexico, together with Argentina, also has an agreement with AstraZeneca to produce its vaccine—also currently under development—which can be stored and transported in normal refrigerated conditions.

The country of nearly 129 million people has also signed up to the Covax mechanism, which is backed by the World Health Organization and aims to facilitate poor countries' access to coronavirus vaccines.

Mexico has officially registered nearly 102,000 COVID-19 deaths—the world's fourth-highest toll—and over a million infections.

SpeedToys
11-27-20, 19:55
This is good news, but it will be most of 2021 until it has a reasonably positive impact on the world.

It will take months just to vaccinate critical workers. That's just the first vaccination, and then 2 mo after that for their 2nd required vaccination.

Then filter down by age and health complications.

I'm guessing it will be summer before anyone 40 and under and generally healthy starts to see their -first- injection.

And this is all massively optimistic, Pfizer says "up to 1. 3 billion doses in 2021" is what it expect to produce.

Math that out against a global population of roughly 8 Billion.

Think mid 2022 to put this mostly all behind us.

That is. If the anti vaxxers on this, currently at like 40%, back down. Because a60% vaccination rate won't make it go away.

Hargow20
11-28-20, 08:47
According to this link it is only the pedestrian into mexico that is closed from 10 pm-5 am that is currently closed (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmBQ01YJjUQ). Still need to confirm. This however.


People are saying san Ysidro trolley border USA not letting pedestrians return 10 pm till like 5 am. But otay staying open. Of course at night was only way to avoid hours of lines.

BrotherMouzone
11-28-20, 17:00
According to this link it is only the pedestrian into mexico that is closed from 10 pm-5 am that is currently closed (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmBQ01YJjUQ). Still need to confirm. This however.Luke gets some of his info 2nd hand (as was the case here) and it's not always clear. I think the 10 pm-5 am "closure" would only apply for pedestrians crossing from Mexico to the USA Given the new curfew in the USA Pedestrians crossing from the USA To Mexico can still walk through 24 hours as Mexican customs doesn't have the same curfew. It's also not clear how well this "border closure" will be enforced. Luke primarily mentioned a reduction in staffing during those hours, which wouldn't necessarily be the same as an outright closure. So would just need some folks down on thee scene to provide more clear information.

Travv
11-28-20, 17:18
Lower tax rates will apply in northern and southern border states until 2024.

Lower tax rates will apply in Mexico's northern and southern border regions until the end of 2024, President López Obrador announced Friday.

A northern border free zone where the IVA value-added tax is 8% instead of 16%, the maximum income tax rate is 20% instead of 30% and the minimum wage is 50% higher than the rest of the country was established by the federal government on January 1, 2019. The zone was initially created for a period of two years but will now remain in place for four more. Fuel will also be cheaper on the northern and southern borders because it won't be subject to the same taxes that apply elsewhere in the country.

https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/taxes-will-be-halved-in-southern-border-region-states/

AMLO turning into a Trump tax cutter type? Should cost less now for restaurants and hotels in Tijuana due to the tax cut from 16 to 8 percent. .

OPIllini
11-28-20, 19:19
Hello all,

I live in the Chicago area and turn 49 in January. I am thinking of going to Tijuana for the first time ever to celebrate my birthday. I know it's been recommended that first-time visitors to Tijuana should go with a friend or two who have been there already for safety reasons. But I am considering going by myself. What reasonable precautions can I exercise while in Tijuana? I'm focusing on the paraditas (street girls).

ClamSlammer
11-28-20, 22:45
A northern border free zone where the IVA value-added tax is 8% instead of 16%...was established by the federal government on January 1, 2019. The zone was initially created for a period of two years but will now remain in place for four more. Fuel will also be cheaper on the northern and southern borders because it won't be subject to the same taxes that apply elsewhere in the country.

AMLO turning into a Trump tax cutter type? Should cost less now for restaurants and hotels in Tijuana due to the tax cut from 16 to 8 percent..C'Mon. Man, you know that Tijuana consumers collectively won't save a single peso due to some tax cuts. The business owners are going to pocket every centavo.

If you really understand the Trump tax "cuts," you will see that they are actually tax increases, unless you are extremely wealthy or are a corporation. Corporate tax rates were reduced to 21% permanently. Individual tax rates were reduced temporarily. The top 5% of earners will see their after-tax income increase by 2.2%. The majority of the population, those within the 80%-20% range of income earners, will see their after-tax income increase by only 1.7% So Trump's tax "cuts" overwhelmingly benefit the rich. And when those temporary tax cuts expire in 2025, the middle class will actually pay more in taxes starting in 2027, with taxes increasing each year starting in 2021. Overall, 60% of the overall tax cuts will benefit the top 20% of earners.

Hargow20
11-29-20, 03:24
I checked the CBP site and there is no alerts or info that indicates there is a pedestrian closure. Also tried calling, but was only able to reach the CBP border crossing hotline. There was no news about a closure. I will try checking later on tonite. If anyone has any info please post. ?


Luke gets some of his info 2nd hand (as was the case here) and it's not always clear. I think the 10 pm-5 am "closure" would only apply for pedestrians crossing from Mexico to the USA Given the new curfew in the USA Pedestrians crossing from the USA To Mexico can still walk through 24 hours as Mexican customs doesn't have the same curfew. It's also not clear how well this "border closure" will be enforced. Luke primarily mentioned a reduction in staffing during those hours, which wouldn't necessarily be the same as an outright closure. So would just need some folks down on thee scene to provide more clear information.

Jackie888
11-29-20, 04:34
I checked the CBP site and there is no alerts or info that indicates there is a pedestrian closure. Also tried calling, but was only able to reach the CBP border crossing hotline. There was no news about a closure. I will try checking later on tonite. If anyone has any info please post. ?Some dude name Luke on youtube swore that the pedestrian border closes down, or that CBP leaves a skeleton crew working and the lines grind to a halt right at 10 pm; and this last to 5 am.

Rainman306
11-29-20, 04:38
I would suggest staying at one of the Major Club hotels -- Cascades above Hong Kong, Rizo De Oro above Tropical, Jalos above Chicago or Coahuilla above Adelita. Try to most walking during the day, but the alley and main block. With HK & Adelita should still be safe up til 2/3 am.

Take the HK or Chicago shuttle to / from the border. A few taxis could be crooked.

Otherwise just stag on the main drags & don't get too drunk.


Hello all,

I live in the Chicago area and turn 49 in January. I am thinking of going to Tijuana for the first time ever to celebrate my birthday. I know it's been recommended that first-time visitors to Tijuana should go with a friend or two who have been there already for safety reasons. But I am considering going by myself. What reasonable precautions can I exercise while in Tijuana? I'm focusing on the paraditas (street girls).

Artisttyp
11-29-20, 04:47
Hello all,

I live in the Chicago area and turn 49 in January. I am thinking of going to Tijuana for the first time ever to celebrate my birthday. I know it's been recommended that first-time visitors to Tijuana should go with a friend or two who have been there already for safety reasons. But I am considering going by myself. What reasonable precautions can I exercise while in Tijuana? I'm focusing on the paraditas (street girls).Make sure any hotel room you rent has a heater. It will be cold.

StRobert
11-29-20, 06:32
Hello all,

I live in the Chicago area and turn 49 in January. I am thinking of going to Tijuana for the first time ever to celebrate my birthday. I know it's been recommended that first-time visitors to Tijuana should go with a friend or two who have been there already for safety reasons. But I am considering going by myself. What reasonable precautions can I exercise while in Tijuana? I'm focusing on the paraditas (street girls).If it's the first time in Zona Norte, please read this.

"Brockton O'Tool's Tijuana Guide (updated April 2009)" - Lots of good information and still relevant. This post is here on the Tijuana forum (scroll down). Unfortunately, please remember that we are in the middle of an epidemic on corona virus.

Dogers69
11-29-20, 07:31
Absolutely nothing to do of interest in San Diego at night if your single, so went to Tijuana. Hk, a bit quiet before 10 at least. Chicago was no fun. Normally Chicago has better effort woman but the layout is tough where everyone can see everyone at all times. Anyway Adelitas actually was crowded no idea why maybe men getting sick of hearing 100 dollars st HK. The 2 ficha I bought st Adelitas, the girl still wanted 100. I don't offer 70, if she says 80 ill offer 70. Otherwise forget it. Then was told to leave by bartender as soon as she left because I didn't want a drink again immediately. Grumpy folks in Adelitas these days. Anyway, if your Mexican or like Mexican music and can find fun in chubbier woman, Gloria bar still has 2 beers for 4 bucks, a lot of woman, I qas only gringo in it. To me Gloria bar has taken over what was once Chaveles. Was quoted 70 by 1 girl who most would rate a 6.5. Only problem is, 1 time I was in the Gloria bar hotel, the girl didn't shower before or after, it was sex on bed spread no sheets, I don't think there was towels for either of us. Its just a lot issues if your hygienic at all.

Hargow20
11-29-20, 08:55
Just checked the cbp site and the pedestrian lane heading back into the US are open.


I checked the CBP site and there is no alerts or info that indicates there is a pedestrian closure. Also tried calling, but was only able to reach the CBP border crossing hotline. There was no news about a closure. I will try checking later on tonite. If anyone has any info please post. ?

MongerHunger
11-29-20, 16:19
Started out using Figral from Piri Pharmacy. Then I tried Alegre which was better than Figral and then I tried Maxifort which had the best results out of the 3. When it comes to the USA Brands they are far superior and the effects last a lot longer than their Mexican counterparts. When I go to Piri I get Maxifort brand Sildenafil. Has anyone else had similar results?

BrotherMouzone
11-29-20, 19:18
Hello all,

I live in the Chicago area and turn 49 in January. I am thinking of going to Tijuana for the first time ever to celebrate my birthday. I know it's been recommended that first-time visitors to Tijuana should go with a friend or two who have been there already for safety reasons. But I am considering going by myself. What reasonable precautions can I exercise while in Tijuana? I'm focusing on the paraditas (street girls).Nearly every time I've gone to Tijuana (20+ times from the East Coast) I've gone solo and had no issues. Honestly, would just exercise the same precautions in Tijuana that you'd exercise in any sketchy area of the USA That you're unfamiliar with. Mainly keep a low profile, don't act like an ass (this is probably most important LOL), and mind your surroundings as you're walking around. Don't venture out from the core areas of Zona Norte, especially at night. If you look like / fit the profile of someone who has $$$ maybe dress down a bit. In particular for street girls appearance isn't all that big of a deal IMO. I always prefer nights, but daytime / afternoon might be better looking for street girls if you're especially worried about your safety. But again, I've been to Tijuana solo 20+ times (which I guess actually isn't a whole lot of times relative to many on this board) and never had any issues.

ClamSlammer
11-29-20, 20:18
Hello all,

I live in the Chicago area and turn 49 in January. I am thinking of going to Tijuana for the first time ever to celebrate my birthday. I know it's been recommended that first-time visitors to Tijuana should go with a friend or two who have been there already for safety reasons. But I am considering going by myself. What reasonable precautions can I exercise while in Tijuana? I'm focusing on the paraditas (street girls).I'd say definitely come down. It's the unknown to you but there's nothing to be afraid of. Being from Chicago, you're going to be blown away if you're used to The Admiral, All Stars and Heavenly Bodies. I know well the 708 now turned 630. There's no secrets to staying safe in the Zona. Just the usual practices when in sketchy areas. I'd say the #1 rule is to not engage in conversation with any male on the street not wearing a bar uniform. Buy yourself a forum membership so you have access to PM and I'll help you out.

BigButtDetecto
11-29-20, 21:54
Absolutely nothing to do of interest in San Diego at night if your single, so went to Tijuana. Hk, a bit quiet before 10 at least. Chicago was no fun. Normally Chicago has better effort woman but the layout is tough where everyone can see everyone at all times. Anyway Adelitas actually was crowded no idea why maybe men getting sick of hearing 100 dollars st HK. The 2 ficha I bought st Adelitas, the girl still wanted 100. I don't offer 70, if she says 80 ill offer 70. Otherwise forget it. Then was told to leave by bartender as soon as she left because I didn't want a drink again immediately. Grumpy folks in Adelitas these days. Anyway, if your Mexican or like Mexican music and can find fun in chubbier woman, Gloria bar still has 2 beers for 4 bucks, a lot of woman, I qas only gringo in it. To me Gloria bar has taken over what was once Chaveles. Was quoted 70 by 1 girl who most would rate a 6.5. Only problem is, 1 time I was in the Gloria bar hotel, the girl didn't shower before or after, it was sex on bed spread no sheets, I don't think there was towels for either of us. Its just a lot issues if your hygienic at all."Then was told to leave by bartender as soon as she left because I didn't want a drink again immediately. Grumpy folks in Adelitas these days. ".

That's exactly what I feel. Unlike HK, Adelita"s is a no go zone now.

Hargow20
11-29-20, 22:27
The main thing is to never let your guard down in Tijuana. In my mind the Mexicans see you us a rich gringo that they can get money from. When I am in the Zona I always look to see who is behind me The one good thing is that the Zona ha become much safer in the past year or so. But should not let you lull yourself into dropping your guard down. There has also been some reports that the police have been trying to extract more bribes recently.


Nearly every time I've gone to Tijuana (20+ times from the East Coast) I've gone solo and had no issues. Honestly, would just exercise the same precautions in Tijuana that you'd exercise in any sketchy area of the USA That you're unfamiliar with. Mainly keep a low profile, don't act like an ass (this is probably most important LOL), and mind your surroundings as you're walking around. Don't venture out from the core areas of Zona Norte, especially at night. If you look like / fit the profile of someone who has $$$ maybe dress down a bit. In particular for street girls appearance isn't all that big of a deal IMO. I always prefer nights, but daytime / afternoon might be better looking for street girls if you're especially worried about your safety. But again, I've been to Tijuana solo 20+ times (which I guess actually isn't a whole lot of times relative to many on this board) and never had any issues.

MmaufcFan
11-30-20, 02:10
I checked the CBP site and there is no alerts or info that indicates there is a pedestrian closure. Also tried calling, but was only able to reach the CBP border crossing hotline. There was no news about a closure. I will try checking later on tonite. If anyone has any info please post.I crossed into the states from Mexico at 4:45 AM Sunday 29th It was open. My friend left Saturday same time and it was open.

Dogers69
11-30-20, 05:02
The main thing is to never let your guard down in Tijuana. In my mind the Mexicans see you us a rich gringo that they can get money from. When I am in the Zona I always look to see who is behind me The one good thing is that the Zona ha become much safer in the past year or so. But should not let you lull yourself into dropping your guard down. There has also been some reports that the police have been trying to extract more bribes recently.If you don't do drugs, haven't been in a fist fight in 20 years, and only stay in HK, you will definitely be safe. If you are intrigued by cheaper drugs, want to fight people who try and scam, rob, verbally insult you, you can very easily get into a lot trouble. If your a angry drunk, stay home. You don't want the Mexican jail problems. If I was bigger, and trained in fighting, I probably would of been stabbed to death when choked out on the street. If my initial reaction when getting slapped hard by chicks is to hit back, I would of never made it back to the states. If I didn't like drunk customers telling me they want to decapitate me, I would of been arrested for fighting. If I didn't remain calm and polite in HK hotel when ski mask gunman tried breaking into my room, saying they were police, I definitely would not have returned to America alive. In Mexico, the other person is always correct and you just say "sorry" , and remain calm. Otherwise don't go.

RikyMichaels7
11-30-20, 07:16
Started out using Figral from Piri Pharmacy. Then I tried Alegre which was better than Figral and then I tried Maxifort which had the best results out of the 3. When it comes to the USA Brands they are far superior and the effects last a lot longer than their Mexican counterparts. When I go to Piri I get Maxifort brand Sildenafil. Has anyone else had similar results?I have tried all of the brands that you mention here. The best of all of these for me has been Maxifort. Do yourself a favor and try a brand called "Bullenza". It is sildenafil but works every bit as good as Pfizer Viagra. Much better than Maxifort. Go to Farmacia Similares or Sanborns to get it.

Jackie888
11-30-20, 20:53
Anyone notice La Valentina bar is still closed? It's the only bar still shut down.

BrotherMouzone
11-30-20, 20:58
If you don't do drugs, haven't been in a fist fight in 20 years, and only stay in HK, you will definitely be safe. If you are intrigued by cheaper drugs, want to fight people who try and scam, rob, verbally insult you, you can very easily get into a lot trouble. If your a angry drunk, stay home. You don't want the Mexican jail problems. If I was bigger, and trained in fighting, I probably would of been stabbed to death when choked out on the street. If my initial reaction when getting slapped hard by chicks is to hit back, I would of never made it back to the states. If I didn't like drunk customers telling me they want to decapitate me, I would of been arrested for fighting. If I didn't remain calm and polite in HK hotel when ski mask gunman tried breaking into my room, saying they were police, I definitely would not have returned to America alive. In Mexico, the other person is always correct and you just say "sorry" , and remain calm. Otherwise don't go.Good post. This speaks to my point in a previous post about simply not acting like an ass (even when provoked as Dogers69 alludes to above) and keeping a low profile being the most effective "precautions" you can take for staying safe in Tijuana. It *mostly* is that simple. A lot of times on these boards you hear the stories of people getting in trouble in Tijuana but honestly, you're just getting that one side of the story from that person's perspective. They'll almost always leave out / minimize the part where they did some really stupid shit to put themselves in a bad situation in the first place. I understand perfectly that you can be perfectly innocent having done nothing wrong and still be victimized in Tijuana, but I still think simply following rules, being respectful, and not drawing attention to yourself is the most effective way to minimize putting your safety in jeopardy (as it would be if you are in a "sketchy" area in the USA That you are unfamiliar with).

Rainman306
12-01-20, 00:46
Its nice to see so many young attractive chicas who have not destroyed their bodies with excessive tattoos or ruined their appearance with excessive drug use.

Many providers in the USA. From Strippers to who provide extras to escorts in the USA have excessive tasteless tattoos, or have bad teeth and facial appearance from drug use.

These young girls in the USA are being falsely flattered by boys with no brains and / or never traveled outside their area. This is particularly bad in the Midwest, I think other parts of the USA are better.

Jinxx
12-01-20, 00:51
Good post. This speaks to my point in a previous post about simply not acting like an ass (even when provoked as Dogers69 alludes to above) and keeping a low profile being the most effective "precautions" you can take for staying safe in Tijuana. It *mostly* is that simple. A lot of times on these boards you hear the stories of people getting in trouble in Tijuana but honestly, you're just getting that one side of the story from that person's perspective. They'll almost always leave out / minimize the part where they did some really stupid shit to put themselves in a bad situation in the first place. I understand perfectly that you can be perfectly innocent having done nothing wrong and still be victimized in Tijuana, but I still think simply following rules, being respectful, and not drawing attention to yourself is the most effective way to minimize putting your safety in jeopardy (as it would be if you are in a "sketchy" area in the USA That you are unfamiliar with).Yea Tijuana is definitely not the place to be a hothead or a tough guy. A couple weeks ago I was checking out of las Cascadas and the front desk guy tried to tell me I needed my receipt to get my deposit back. I told him I wasn't informed of this when I checked in and I no longer had the receipt. He replied "go get it from your room". I told him I'm not going nowhere I need my deposit. I guess he could tell I was getting mad and he gave me my deposit back. But I had to control my anger because I knew he was trying to trick me into giving up my deposit, and I was on the verge losing my temper and cussing the guy out. Then I probably would've got banned from las Cascadas and possibly banned from HK. So yes sometimes you just got to take a deep breath find a calm peaceful solution.

Ctytek
12-01-20, 01:31
I understand perfectly that you can be perfectly innocent having done nothing wrong and still be victimized in Tijuana, but I still think simply following rules, being respectful, and not drawing attention to yourself is the most effective way to minimize putting your safety in jeopardy (as it would be if you are in a "sketchy" area in the USA That you are unfamiliar with).Staying low key and not drawing unwanted attention to yourself is indeed the key.

If Dogers69 "stories" are even 25% true. There is undoubtedly something about him and the way he behaves in public, which makes people want to slap, attack and abuse him. In that case. He should really examine his behavior and what it is about him that provokes people. Because I have been coming to Mexico for over 15 years, and I have never once been slapped by a bar girl, "choked out" on the street, or anything remotely close to it.

Urfikhan
12-01-20, 04:58
Yea Tijuana is definitely not the place to be a hothead or a tough guy. A couple weeks ago I was checking out of las Cascadas and the front desk guy tried to tell me I needed my receipt to get my deposit back. I told him I wasn't informed of this when I checked in and I no longer had the receipt. He replied "go get it from your room". I told him I'm not going nowhere I need my deposit. I guess he could tell I was getting mad and he gave me my deposit back. But I had to control my anger because I knew he was trying to trick me into giving up my deposit, and I was on the verge losing my temper and cussing the guy out. Then I probably would've got banned from las Cascadas and possibly banned from HK. So yes sometimes you just got to take a deep breath find a calm peaceful solution.I always hang on to my receipt, and they always ask for it during check out. One time I had to switch rooms and they changed the room #on the receipt I had also. Must be part of the paperwork they deem necessary for accounting / books.

ClamSlammer
12-01-20, 10:03
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If you don't do drugs, haven't been in a fist fight in 20 years, and only stay in HK, you will definitely be safe. If you are intrigued by cheaper drugs, want to fight people who try and scam, rob, verbally insult you, you can very easily get into a lot trouble. If your a angry drunk, stay home. You don't want the Mexican jail problems. If I was bigger, and trained in fighting, I probably would of been stabbed to death when choked out on the street. If my initial reaction when getting slapped hard by chicks is to hit back, I would of never made it back to the states. If I didn't like drunk customers telling me they want to decapitate me, I would of been arrested for fighting. If I didn't remain calm and polite in HK hotel when ski mask gunman tried breaking into my room, saying they were police, I definitely would not have returned to America alive. In Mexico, the other person is always correct and you just say "sorry" , and remain calm. Otherwise don't go.

BrotherMouzone
12-01-20, 18:56
I always hang on to my receipt, and they always ask for it during check out. One time I had to switch rooms and they changed the room #on the receipt I had also. Must be part of the paperwork they deem necessary for accounting / books.Yeah, I've been asked for the receipt 100% of the time I've stayed at HK, no exception. I always keep it folded in my wallet to make sure I don't lose it. It's a wierd policy but no big deal. Have never had a problem getting the refund at the end of my stay.

ChinaMan360
12-02-20, 09:52
The main thing is to never let your guard down in Tijuana. In my mind the Mexicans see you us a rich gringo that they can get money from. When I am in the Zona I always look to see who is behind me The one good thing is that the Zona ha become much safer in the past year or so. But should not let you lull yourself into dropping your guard down. There has also been some reports that the police have been trying to extract more bribes recently.I think just keeping in your head "never let your guard down" is really good simple advice. A lot of guys are like I'm going to be reckless because nothing has happened to me yet and boom something happens at some point. If one errs on the safer side they will be fine in Tijuana. I have gone back and forth to the zona several times now and even walking back to the border at night (20+) and nothing has happened since I try to be on the more smart side (not be blacked out drunk, look like a tourist, dress down, etc).

Hargow20
12-02-20, 11:07
I typically will only walk back before 9 pm. When I do walk I try and stay kind of close to other people. I just wish they would have more lighting in that old shopping center.


I think just keeping in your head "never let your guard down" is really good simple advice. A lot of guys are like I'm going to be reckless because nothing has happened to me yet and boom something happens at some point. If one errs on the safer side they will be fine in Tijuana. I have gone back and forth to the zona several times now and even walking back to the border at night (20+) and nothing has happened since I try to be on the more smart side (not be blacked out drunk, look like a tourist, dress down, etc).

Hargow20
12-02-20, 17:46
Here is few more tips I forgot about. When crossing the pedestrian bridge is best to use the stairs. The only other time I use the stairs is on very top stairs on east side by the restaurant. It is to easy to become isolated on the stairs. People have been robbed on the stairs over the years.


I typically will only walk back before 9 pm. When I do walk I try and stay kind of close to other people. I just wish they would have more lighting in that old shopping center.

Jackie888
12-02-20, 21:21
Here is few more tips I forgot about. When crossing the pedestrian bridge is best to use the stairs. The only other time I use the stairs is on very top stairs on east side by the restaurant. It is to easy to become isolated on the stairs. People have been robbed on the stairs over the years.Have you considered using PedWest? In the past I have the HK limo drop me off at the footsteps of PedWest regardless of where I parked. A lot safer.

Dogers69
12-03-20, 00:01
For 99% of people going to HK, taking that walk, is about the worst choice you can make in a visit to Tijuana. Of all the money you will throw around in Tijuana, to save 3, or 4 bucks, and risk getting sliced, shot, robbed, bothered by police, . Most cabs will take 4 bucks if you show him its your last 4 bucks. Hk limo will probably take you without VIP if you give the guy 2 bucks who arranges the limo. Uber is 2 bucks st times, it goes higher when busy. Walking back to the border in the dark is probably more dangerous than walking the dark streets 2 blocks south of Hong Kong at 2 am hoping to find a street girl. Most of you will hesitate to give your phone and wallet up when robbed, if you don't see a gun or knife. Once you hesitate its then that the robber will tackle and slice you. So will his 4 friends you didn't even see.

DramaFree11
12-03-20, 02:56
For 99% of people going to HK, taking that walk, is about the worst choice you can make in a visit to Tijuana. Of all the money you will throw around in Tijuana, to save 3, or 4 bucks, and risk getting sliced, shot, robbed, bothered by police, . Most cabs will take 4 bucks if you show him its your last 4 bucks. Hk limo will probably take you without VIP if you give the guy 2 bucks who arranges the limo. Uber is 2 bucks st times, it goes higher when busy. Walking back to the border in the dark is probably more dangerous than walking the dark streets 2 blocks south of Hong Kong at 2 am hoping to find a street girl. Most of you will hesitate to give your phone and wallet up when robbed, if you don't see a gun or knife. Once you hesitate its then that the robber will tackle and slice you. So will his 4 friends you didn't even see.Dude,

You make no sense as usual.

ChinaMan360
12-03-20, 09:49
I typically will only walk back before 9 pm. When I do walk I try and stay kind of close to other people. I just wish they would have more lighting in that old shopping center.I agree. The only time I have walked back was one of my first times and I accidently spent too much and ran out of money for a taxi at 2 am and had to walk my way back by memory. I was so fucking scared LOL, but I am used to go to Juarez a lot to party and I think I have pretty good situational awareness and I tried to make myself look sketchy as well to blend in lmfao. Got back safely.

Dickus Maximus
12-03-20, 19:16
Dude,

You make no sense as usual.Not walking to the border after dark is good advice. It's a cheap Uber ride, and even for the cost of a cab it's good insurance. Being in a dark and isolated place in Tijuana is not the best idea.

Ctytek
12-03-20, 22:41
Dude,

You make no sense as usual.Got to agree with his general point on this one though. Walking from the Zone to the Crossing is one of dumbest ways to save a couple of bucks. Especially after dark.

Travv
12-04-20, 00:44
Think they made a movie about a guy who did something similar, he was returning home by running through the jungle with about 6 or 7 guys with knives running after him in Mexico. Apocalypto movie by Mel Gibson. You might want to watch it, though it is in the original Mexican language of Nahuatl. Might get some pointers on how to escape the deportee rateros who like to hunt tourists walking around at night. . .


Got to agree with his general point on this one though. Walking from the Zone to the Crossing is one of dumbest ways to save a couple of bucks. Especially after dark.

ScottHall
12-04-20, 03:56
Cheapskates LOL. Walk through one of the most dangerous cities on the planet just to save 5 bucks? I don't believe anyone is that cheap. It has to be because they just want to.

Ctytek
12-04-20, 23:28
Cheapskates LOL. Walk through one of the most dangerous cities on the planet just to save 5 bucks? I don't believe anyone is that cheap. It has to be because they just want to.Believe it. The same people who walk from the Zona to the border (while nervously looking over their shoulder) to save $4 bucks. They also haggle over 100 pesos with street hoookers. And they stalk desperate drug addicted SWs with needle marks, because bar girls are too expensive for them.

SpeedToys
12-05-20, 00:01
Left a PM for possible transport on Tuesday a few days ago, in case you missed it. .

Naked Gunz
12-05-20, 16:23
Cheapskates LOL. Walk through one of the most dangerous cities on the planet just to save 5 bucks? I don't believe anyone is that cheap. It has to be because they just want to.When I was a SD resident I used to walk from the border entrance across the bridge to zona norte (and back) no matter what time of day or night all the time- sometimes while pretty drunk. That was in the late nineties tho! Having walked thru dangerous Nairobi streets, Tijuana was a breeze. The situation has reversed these days. That move would just be asking for trouble, esp with so many desperate migrants down there now.

TjBrazil
12-05-20, 19:02
I have been going to Tijuana for 20 years and have never been robbed, beaten, choked out, or fought anyone. The closest I came to hanging out with a criminal was at Ceasars strip club on revolution back in the day (miss that place). I was talking to this white guy there and grabbing ass with him. I told him I was laid off from my job, and was getting about 300 a week unemployment. He asked me if times were tough, and I said yes like I always do. I always pretend I'm poor. He had no idea I had about 20 k saved up at that time and was actually enjoying my layoff for 6 months. He then asked me if I wanted to transport drugs to America for 1500 dollars. I told him he was nuts and wasn't going to risk 10 years in prison for 1500 bucks or any amount for that matter. He said "don't you need money". I said yes but not that bad. He said don't worry and that it was easy. I said if it's so easy why don't you do it since you're from San Diego. I'm still waiting for his answer.

About 10 minutes later I decided to leave and not associate with a drug dealer in Mexico even if he was American. Probably had warrants in the US. The strange thing is I never saw him again in all my trips after. I always wonder what happened to that guy. I really miss Tijuana from the early 2000's. Revolution was so fun and a change of pace from downtown. I miss peanuts and beer, Madonas, Ceasar strip club. There were so many places to go back then and they were all packed.

John Clayton
12-05-20, 21:54
When I was a SD resident I used to walk from the border entrance across the bridge to zona norte (and back) no matter what time of day or night all the time...Ditto -- never a problem.

Member #4722
12-05-20, 23:43
Just crossed into Tijuana. I think they are buckling down on essential travel. They were sending everyone to secondary. The agent said from now on everyone needs proof if they have a medical or dentist appointment. Didn't even offer me the $30 visa. I gave him a sob story and he let me through.

Hargow20
12-06-20, 03:48
I wonder if they are still accepting the FMM / Visa. ? I will very irritated if they do not let me visit Tijuana after spending $30 on the FMM / Visa. I wonder what sort of proof they want for a visit to a dentist. ?


Just crossed into Tijuana. I think they are buckling down on essential travel. They were sending everyone to secondary. The agent said from now on everyone needs proof if they have a medical or dentist appointment. Didn't even offer me the $30 visa. I gave him a sob story and he let me through.

SpeedToys
12-06-20, 04:02
I wonder if they are still accepting the FMM / Visa. ? I will very irritated if they do not let me visit Tijuana after spending $30 on the FMM / Visa. I wonder what sort of proof they want for a visit to a dentist. ?Ok. Who can I call to get an 'appointment' and they can make a few bucks? Ha. .

Hargow20
12-06-20, 04:10
I suppose you can just call & make a appt with a dentist. It is hard to imagine what proof they could demand unless they expect your dentist to email a letter showing your appt. If anyone has any news please post. ??


Ok. Who can I call to get an 'appointment' and they can make a few bucks? Ha. .

SpeedToys
12-06-20, 04:13
I suppose you can just call & make a appt with a dentist. It is hard to imagine what proof they could demand unless they expect your dentist to email a letter showing your appt. If anyone has any news please post. ??True. But who straight up will have a legit schedule opening for Wednesday AM this next week.

I hope to come over Tuesday Afternoon. And I REALLY hope Jinxx come online to see my PM, I have a shot knee, and the bridge will be a long ass haul for me with a bag.

Bocephious
12-06-20, 07:56
Crossed today about 730-800 and it definitely seemed as though Mexican passport check was much more vigilant. Luckily I had the 120 day FFM thing and they let me through, after actually looking at it, they haven't done that before. Was prepared to say I was staying at a hotel in Tijuana, done that before and still had an old keyboard in my passport holder if there were any issues. US customs, after scanning the passport chip, asks me if I come to Mexico often. Wanted to say "yes, 3-4 days in a row, every 3-4 months, just like your computer says. Instead, just smiled and said "yup".

SpeedToys
12-06-20, 07:56
True. But who straight up will have a legit schedule opening for Wednesday AM this next week.

I hope to come over Tuesday Afternoon. And I REALLY hope Jinxx come online to see my PM, I have a shot knee, and the bridge will be a long ass haul for me with a bag.Well, I had a CT scan last week in prep for a total knee replacement for Christmas, the juicy part is:

"There is severe degenerative narrowing of the medial compartment of the left knee with bone-on-bone appearance, multiple spurring, and advanced subchondral sclerosis. ".

There's a very dense page of info around either end of this, with that in hand, and saying that I'm headed to interview with a few surgeons to perform the work. Maybe that's enough.

Turgid
12-06-20, 14:46
...........About 10 minutes later I decided to leave and not associate with a drug dealer in Mexico even if he was American. Probably had warrants in the US. ...........I always try my very best to not chat with guys I do not know in clubs especially after an experience I had in a club in Montpellier, France in 2008 when a Belgian bloke I had befriended caused me to lose out on a freebie hottie. That pains me up to today.

Jinxx
12-06-20, 20:38
True. But who straight up will have a legit schedule opening for Wednesday AM this next week.

I hope to come over Tuesday Afternoon. And I REALLY hope Jinxx come online to see my PM, I have a shot knee, and the bridge will be a long ass haul for me with a bag.I got you brother! I just sent you a pm. I feel your pain with your knee situation. I've already had one knee surgery on my left knee and I'm pretty sure I need another surgery on my right knee. I can definitely pick you up from San Diego airport on Tuesday.

Jinxx
12-06-20, 20:53
I always try my very best to not chat with guys I do not know in clubs especially after an experience I had in a club in Montpellier, France in 2008 when a Belgian bloke I had befriended caused me to lose out on a freebie hottie. That pains me up to today.Yea you got to be careful with that. I started drinking and shooting the sh*t with these two guys I befriended in a club in Monterrey, and I totally inadvertently cockblocked one of the guys. He had a chica on his lap that I had bought a ficha for earlier in the night. Well I guess when me and that guy started talking it made her feel awkward or uncomfortable, and she ended up leaving the guy. He had no idea that she had been with me earlier. I even told him later when I realized it "dude I think I accidentally cockblocked you and scared your chica away". He didn't seem worried about it, but I kinda felt bad.

But yes linking up with random guys at strip clubs can be good or bad, it depends. One thing to keep in mind is it can change the dynamic and your vibe with the chicas. It can cause you to lose your concentration and therefore lose out on a good time with a chica you're trying to focus on. Or you could inadvertantly screw up somebody else's good time.

SpeedToys
12-06-20, 21:07
I got you brother! I just sent you a pm. I feel your pain with your knee situation. I've already had one knee surgery on my left knee and I'm pretty sure I need another surgery on my right knee. I can definitely pick you up from San Diego airport on Tuesday.Perfect, got your chat as well. .

Hargow20
12-06-20, 21:13
Was checking with several sources and both told me that crossing that people have been crossing the border as usual. I am heading down today a bit early so I use the dentist excuse if they hassle me.


Crossed today about 730-800 and it definitely seemed as though Mexican passport check was much more vigilant. Luckily I had the 120 day FFM thing and they let me through, after actually looking at it, they haven't done that before. Was prepared to say I was staying at a hotel in Tijuana, done that before and still had an old keyboard in my passport holder if there were any issues. US customs, after scanning the passport chip, asks me if I come to Mexico often. Wanted to say "yes, 3-4 days in a row, every 3-4 months, just like your computer says. Instead, just smiled and said "yup".

BrotherMouzone
12-07-20, 03:49
I always try my very best to not chat with guys I do not know in clubs especially after an experience I had in a club in Montpellier, France in 2008 when a Belgian bloke I had befriended caused me to lose out on a freebie hottie. That pains me up to today.Yeah, to each his own. And you want to be nice / sociable when you can. But when down there I try to avoid extended chats with other dudes at all costs if possible. I'm down there STRICTLY to talk to chicas, not guys LOL. I suppose some guys are more comfortable or find themselves having a better time chatting it up with other guys while checking out the chicas which is fine. To each his own. But at least for me I don't get going down to those clubs just to spend half / most of your time chatting it up with other dudes. I'm personally focusing on the women.

TravelingMan3
12-07-20, 04:07
Was checking with several sources and both told me that crossing that people have been crossing the border as usual. I am heading down today a bit early so I use the dentist excuse if they hassle me.I've crossed twice the last 3 weeks and they didn't care about why I was crossing didn't ask for proof either. Also I didn't have to pay the fee either once was asked why I'm crossing second time how long I think guy on here make a bigger deal about crossing than it needs to be.

Dusty20
12-07-20, 05:10
After having to postpone a few times this year, I'm finally getting down to Tijuana next weekend (approx 12/10-12/14 give or take).

Anybody care to meet up? I'm a mid-30's guy. I have the legit dental excuse to get through.

Dusty20
12-07-20, 05:15
Can anyone advise on T-Mobile and / or Verizon working in most parts of Tijuana with / without international plan? Want to make sure I can still be accessible.

TjBrazil
12-07-20, 06:00
Yeah, to each his own. And you want to be nice / sociable when you can. But when down there I try to avoid extended chats with other dudes at all costs if possible. I'm down there STRICTLY to talk to chicas, not guys LOL. I suppose some guys are more comfortable or find themselves having a better time chatting it up with other guys while checking out the chicas which is fine. To each his own. But at least for me I don't get going down to those clubs just to spend half / most of your time chatting it up with other dudes. I'm personally focusing on the women.It was a long time ago when I chatted with this American guy. Also, I was new to Tijuana and was getting some tips that weren't drug smuggling related. LOL. I think it was my second time there. I spoke no Spanish so having someone that speaks English was good. But yeah, you're right, it's best not to talk to guys much in the clubs, because if they have bad intentions, they will try to get as much information out of you as possible. See if you're worth robbing. "Where do you work" "what do you do" "how much is your pension. " If you're drunk you might give honest answers which is a big mistake. Instead of saying you're on social security, you might say you are on a military pension. Instead of saying you drive uber you might tell them you work at google. Best to zip up and tell everyone you drive uber and stuff g strings.

TjBrazil
12-07-20, 06:07
Is 18 considered too young. What is the largest age gap that you think is acceptable in the mongering world or the regular world. There is this couple on youtube. He is 69 and she is about 23. Even I was kind of grossed out by it and I love 18 to 21 year olds. I guess I'm a hypocrite.

Turgid
12-07-20, 13:20
Yea you got to be careful with that. I started drinking and shooting the sh*t with these two guys I befriended in a club in Monterrey, and I totally inadvertently cockblocked one of the guys. He had a chica on his lap that I had bought a ficha for earlier in the night. Well I guess when me and that guy started talking it made her feel awkward or uncomfortable, and she ended up leaving the guy. He had no idea that she had been with me earlier. I even told him later when I realized it "dude I think I accidentally cockblocked you and scared your chica away". He didn't seem worried about it, but I kinda felt bad.

But yes linking up with random guys at strip clubs can be good or bad, it depends. One thing to keep in mind is it can change the dynamic and your vibe with the chicas. It can cause you to lose your concentration and therefore lose out on a good time with a chica you're trying to focus on. Or you could inadvertantly screw up somebody else's good time.What you did was not as bad as that Belgian dude. We drank together for a little over an hour then we went our separate ways in the club. This French woman was in a group saw me and smiled (1 in a million that happens to me), we got to talking. A little later the ass sees me and obviously drunk shouts to me words to the effect ¨Hey, well done, you've picked up a babe!¨ I was speechless with anger.

Hargow20
12-07-20, 16:03
Things were normal when I crossed into Tijuana yesterday thankfully. Just showed him my FMM / Visa and he let me pass.


Was checking with several sources and both told me that crossing that people have been crossing the border as usual. I am heading down today a bit early so I use the dentist excuse if they hassle me.

SpeedToys
12-07-20, 16:04
Things were normal when I crossed into Tijuana yesterday thankfully. Just showed him my FMM / Visa and he let me pass.Great news, thanks.

Round on me this week if you're around after Tuesday.

ObviousAlias
12-07-20, 23:30
So I finally got my passport and will soon make my way to Tijuana. I would like some clarification / pointers on getting in and out smoothly and safety. I would appreciate any input that any one is kind enough to offer.

1. What to bring and how to bring it.

I plan on bringing condoms, cash, and wearing clothes that aren't too flashy. Do I need to hide my cash on my person until I get to my hotel? Am I being to paranoid here? Is there anything else I should bring?

2. Otay Mesa Border Crossing.

I was planning on going through the Otay Mesa checkpoint. I was going to park on the US side then catch a cab to Hotel Ticuan. I park at Route 125 Parking correct? Is there anything I should be aware of when parking here and making my way through to the checkpoint? Are cabs readily available as soon as I cross or do I need to go to a specific area? Is there a specific type of cab I should use in preference over others? I am a little weary of using Uber. Is this feeling unfounded?

3. Hotel Specifics.

I may or may not go for a 3 some. I read that in order to have multiple guest at Hotel Ticuan I need to get a room with double beds. Is this true? Does this still apply if I have just one guest at a time but multiple throughout the day? They serve food at the Ticuan correct? I was planning to not leave the hotel.

4. Getting Back.

I simply have the Ticuan call a cab for me correct?

5. Is there anything not here that should be addressed?

Hargow20
12-08-20, 02:06
Unless you have a FMM / Visa it is unclear if you have problems crossing into Mexico. I have a FMM / Visa and they let me pass the other day. Another person told the Mexican customs that he had a medical or dental appointment and they demanded proof. So until more is known it is probably not worth taking a chance unless you live in the San Diego area.

Hiding the cash should not be a issue unless you are bringing a large amount. Personally I would cross at San Ysidro. Uber is great and have never had a problem. I have been taking the Taxi buses sometimes. Cabs are pletniful, but it is probably expensive to take one from Otay to the Zona. When in the Zona it is important to always keep your guard up. In my mind a lot of the Mexicans think of Americans as rich gringos that they can get money from. The Zona has been fairly safe for the past year or so. But I always look behind to see who is walking behind me. If I do see someone suspicious I will often stop and let them pass.


So I finally got my passport and will soon make my way to Tijuana. I would like some clarification / pointers on getting in and out smoothly and safety. I would appreciate any input that any one is kind enough to offer.

1. What to bring and how to bring it.

I plan on bringing condoms, cash, and wearing clothes that aren't too flashy. Do I need to hide my cash on my person until I get to my hotel? Am I being to paranoid here? Is there anything else I should bring?

2. Otay Mesa Border Crossing.

I was planning on going through the Otay Mesa checkpoint. I was going to park on the US side then catch a cab to Hotel Ticuan. I park at Route 125 Parking correct? Is there anything I should be aware of when parking here and making my way through to the checkpoint? Are cabs readily available as soon as I crosbe s or do I need to go to a specific area? Is there a specific type of cab I should use in preference over others? I am a little weary of using Uber. Is this feeling unfounded?

3. Hotel Specifics.

I may or may not go for a 3 some. I read that in order to have multiple guest at Hotel Ticuan I need to get a room with double beds. Is this true? Does this still apply if I have just one guest at a time but multiple throughout the day? They serve food at the Ticuan correct? I was planning to not leave the hotel.

4. Getting Back.

I simply have the Ticuan call a cab for me correct?

5. Is there anything not here that should be addressed?

ObviousAlias
12-08-20, 02:30
Unless you have a FMM / Visa it is unclear if you have problems crossing into Mexico. I have a FMM / Visa and they let me pass the other day. Another person told the Mexican customs that he had a medical or dental appointment and they demanded proof. So until more is known it is probably not worth taking a chance unless you live in the San Diego area.

Hiding the cash should not be a issue unless you are bringing a large amount. Personally I would cross at San Ysidro. Uber is great and have never had a problem. I have been taking the Taxi buses sometimes. Cabs are pletniful, but it is probably expensive to take one from Otay to the Zona. When in the Zona it is important to always keep your guard up. In my mind a lot of the Mexicans think of Americans as rich gringos that they can get money from. The Zona has been fairly safe for the past year or so. But I always look behind to see who is walking behind me. If I do see someone suspicious I will often stop and let them pass.Thanks for the tips. I know that crossing can be hit and miss due to Covid and with a two hour drive I definitely see your point. Could I not just make an appointment to see a dentist and just not go?

Dogers69
12-08-20, 03:05
I highly recommend your money being in hidden places, multiple, so you don't lose it all. If in a shoe, it will dissolve both Mexican and USA dollars if you don't wrap it in ideally strong plastic like zip lock. I almost lost a 100 dollar bill this way. The police, have never checked my sneakers, even the muggers, who stripped clothing off me when I was knocked out, didn't check my sneakers. I would also wear thin shorts, under your jeans, to put the passport in. It needs to have secure pocket. Mine is on the side, which helps because my previous shorts had the pocket on my ass and it was ruining my passport. The reason this is a good idea, is, if you lose your passport, its expensive and a hassle for another one, the 2nd one becomes like walking around with a 100 k cash because if you lose that one, the 3rd one could be your final one. They say they can stop giving you new ones. Plus, if you lose it, when you get a new one, you will be questioned at the border at 30 times the intensity when you start using the new one. The pocket in your shorts for the passport and even a license, helps, for robbers, muggers, sticky finger girls, pick pocketers on the street, and most importantly so you don't drop it when drinking or when simply grabbing your wallet or cell from your pocket, it could come flying out and maybe you lose it.

Dickus Maximus
12-08-20, 03:14
Unless you have a FMM / Visa it is unclear if you have problems crossing into Mexico. I have a FMM / Visa and they let me pass the other day. Another person told the Mexican customs that he had a medical or dental appointment and they demanded proof. So until more is known it is probably not worth taking a chance unless you live in the San Diego area.Although I haven't done it in the last week, I drive through San Ysidro. Stop my car and walk in (it's closed to pedestrians, but open people paying aduana and for visas) and tell them you need a 180 day FMM. The only question was Cash or Credit. If you don't want to drive, see if you can get Jinxx to take you. Not sure what reason to use if they ask you for one. I think if you could get a bro to share his address and say you have a place there, they would let you in. Once they asked and I mumbled something about business and the checked other on the form. Once you have the 180 day FMM you appear to be golden, at least until things change again.

Hargow20
12-08-20, 03:28
I have seen people offering rides to Tijuana by the Jack ine box in San Ysidro. Not sure what they charge.


Although I haven't done it in the last week, I drive through San Ysidro. Stop my car and walk in (it's closed to pedestrians, but open people paying aduana and for visas) and tell them you need a 180 day FMM. The only question was Cash or Credit. If you don't want to drive, see if you can get Jinxx to take you. Not sure what reason to use if they ask you for one. I think if you could get a bro to share his address and say you have a place there, they would let you in. Once they asked and I mumbled something about business and the checked other on the form. Once you have the 180 day FMM you appear to be golden, at least until things change again.

Phordphan
12-08-20, 03:31
So I finally got my passport and will soon make my way to Tijuana. I would like some clarification / pointers on getting in and out smoothly and safety. I would appreciate any input that any one is kind enough to offer.

1. What to bring and how to bring it.

I plan on bringing condoms, cash, and wearing clothes that aren't too flashy. Do I need to hide my cash on my person until I get to my hotel? Am I being to paranoid here? Is there anything else I should bring?

2. Otay Mesa Border Crossing.

I was planning on going through the Otay Mesa checkpoint. I was going to park on the US side then catch a cab to Hotel Ticuan. I park at Route 125 Parking correct? Is there anything I should be aware of when parking here and making my way through to the checkpoint? Are cabs readily available as soon as I cross or do I need to go to a specific area? Is there a specific type of cab I should use in preference over others? I am a little weary of using Uber. Is this feeling unfounded?

3. Hotel Specifics.

I may or may not go for a 3 some. I read that in order to have multiple guest at Hotel Ticuan I need to get a room with double beds. Is this true? Does this still apply if I have just one guest at a time but multiple throughout the day? They serve food at the Ticuan correct? I was planning to not leave the hotel.

4. Getting Back.

I simply have the Ticuan call a cab for me correct?

5. Is there anything not here that should be addressed?I cross constantly at Otay, so I'll give you as much information as I can.

1. How much cash do you want to bring? Frankly, the Mexican ATMs do work (just don't use one in or outside any of the bars), you just need to notify your bank that you'll be using your card outside the country. You may be different. I don't feel comfortable carrying around large amounts of cash. Regardless, just keep your cash in your pocket, and split it up so you don't pull out a giant wad all at once.

2. Parking on the Otay side is a lot easier to come by than on the SY side. Walking though the border is easy, although with the restrictions you may be asked to purchase a 180-day FMM. The "White and Gold" taxis have a stand right outside of the border station exit. DO NOT TAKE THESE unless you don't feel comfortable with the rest of this paragraph. The White / Gold are the airport taxis (a lot of Otay crossing by gringos is because they want to go to the airport) and they are probably the most expensive in all of Tijuana. Figure a minimum of $40 usd and probably closer to $60 usd to get from Otay to Ticuan. If you can follow the locals who are crossing you'll walk out of the building a bit, and then cross the traffic lanes entering mexico, go through a gap in the barrier, cross the lanes of traffic for the cars exiting Mexico, go through some shops, and emerge onto the SENTRI road which parallels a street called Josefina Rendon. This is where all the normal Taxi Libres drop off people who want to cross back into the USA at the pedestrian crossing. The Taxi Libres now have something of a taxi stand at the end of the street (to your left after you have crossed all the lanes). You can grab a Taxi Libre there and go to Ticuan for probably $10 and $20. I'm not sure exactly, as I always use pesos and I always drive my own car. You can also call an Uber from here. I never hesitate to use Uber in Tijuana. It's far preferable to any of the taxi services.

3. Ticuan will make you have double beds if you intend to have two girls AT THE SAME TIME. Otherwise one bed will do. Of course they serve food. The restaurant "Albahaca" has very good food. The hotel bar may or may not be open, due to the restrictions.

4. There are Yellow cabs who wait outside of the hotel. If you absolutely MUST take a taxi back to Otay, and don't want to walk into the street or down the the corner of Revolucion and catch a Libre, then they are a safe option. They will be quite a bit more than a Libre or an Uber, but will be less than the White / Gold. BTW, here's the way is works, "on paper. " Yellow taxis charge by zone. If you're in Zone 1, for example, and want to go to someplace in Zone 4, they charge a flat fee to go to that zone. The fees change by zone. A Taxi Libre (Libre meaning free to go wherever, no fixed route or zone) used to have a meter but no longer do. Now in reality, for a gringo, you must negotiate your fare before you get into the cab. If I were in your shoes, I'd just call an Uber from the lobby, and he'll pick you up at the curb. Easy Peasy.

5. Not leaving the hotel is a big mistake. There is plenty to see and do in Tijuana. You didn't say what day of the week you are visiting, or how long you plan to stay. Avenida Revolucion has lots of interesting things to see, although many of the bars on 6th street aren't open on weekdays. There are microbreweries, shops, restaurants, funky bars, you name it. There is one caveat. Tijuana has gone back into "red" so some of these places might be closed.

ClamSlammer
12-08-20, 06:28
So I finally got my passport and will soon make my way to Tijuana. I would like some clarification / pointers on getting in and out smoothly and safety. I would appreciate any input that any one is kind enough to offer.

1. What to bring and how to bring it.

I plan on bringing condoms, cash, and wearing clothes that aren't too flashy. Do I need to hide my cash on my person until I get to my hotel? Am I being to paranoid here? Is there anything else I should bring?

2. Otay Mesa Border Crossing.

I was planning on going through the Otay Mesa checkpoint. I was going to park on the US side then catch a cab to Hotel Ticuan. I park at Route 125 Parking correct? Is there anything I should be aware of when parking here and making my way through to the checkpoint? Are cabs readily available as soon as I cross or do I need to go to a specific area? Is there a specific type of cab I should use in preference over others? I am a little weary of using Uber. Is this feeling unfounded?1. The better question is what *don't* you bring. And the answer is anything illegal or very valuable. Just bring the things you need for a normal vacation. Clothes, toiletries, etc.

2. I've never crossed on foot at Otay but I can say this. Unless you are ardent in not leaving a paper / electronic trail of your exploits in Tijuana, take Uber. The taxi's are going to take advantage of you. The normal price for an Uber from Otay border to the Zona is around $96 mx so $5 usd. A taxi picking up a gringo from Otay border is going to quote $20 usd or more.

3. I haven't stayed in Ticuan in 7 years, but when I did, they never had a problem with multiple guests. Probably because my guests didn't look like obvious escorts. They have a decent restaurant and bar. There are also plentiful street food carts all around downtown, but the ones in Ticuan's immediate vicinity are substandard.

4. There is almost always a yellow cab or two waiting in front of Ticuan. And there will be several taxi's driving past. Tijuana taxi's have no meters. You tell the driver the destination and he tells you how much. You can accept, decline, or negotiate a lower fare. Despite what another clueless poster may say, all taxicabs (Libre and Yellow) in Tijuana operate in this same manner. There are no set flat rates for travel to other "zones" unless you are departing the airport. Any other pickup location the driver pays no regard to any supposed "zone. " At the border crossing there used to be an official sign posted for the official rates to different zones but not one driver ever honored those prices. Just make it easy on yourself and just order an Uber.

Dickus Maximus
12-08-20, 07:42
I cross constantly at Otay, so I'll give you as much information as I can.All solid advice, but it would be nice to have a map for #2. As you exit the last gate from customs and see the taxis. Ignore them (ask them the price, then say "no mames wey, eres en pinche ladron", or maybe not, because it's the truth but you may start a fight) Turn left and cross the street to the strip mall. Find a passage through the strip mall to the other side. There you can find uber and "reasonably" priced taxis.

Second. Ignore all Phordphan's advice about taxis and only use Uber. All the taxis are a ripoff, some more than others. Uber is generally fairly priced. Except maybe at very high traffic times, but then it's hard to find a taxi either. Just make sure your phone has data in Mexico and use it to Uber everywhere.

Dcrist0527
12-08-20, 16:41
Great post. Agree with everything. I've become more of a fan of Otay. The wait time can be significantly lower, offsetting the hassle.

Just wanted to add I took a yellow taxi from Ticuan to Otay about a week ago. It was $15. There are almost always 2 yellow taxis sitting outside Ticuan, even in the wee hours of the night. Taxi Libres can definitely save you a few dollars. To me, when I'm leaving Ticuan, I don't enjoy hauling a suitcase and backpack down Revolucion or Constitucion. Other than that, I used Taxi Libre exclusively. Uber is definitely cheaper than all.

Follow Phordfan's advice and you are golden. The walk to the Libres is accurate and it's really not as difficult as it seems.

And I would agree. Get out of the hotel. Revolucion is pretty safe. Constitucion (one block west) will give you more of a local feel. There are a few good taquerias on Constucion a few blocks north of Ticuan.


I cross constantly at Otay, so I'll give you as much information as I can.

1. How much cash do you want to bring? Frankly, the Mexican ATMs do work (just don't use one in or outside any of the bars), you just need to notify your bank that you'll be using your card outside the country. You may be different. I don't feel comfortable carrying around large amounts of cash. Regardless, just keep your cash in your pocket, and split it up so you don't pull out a giant wad all at once.

2. Parking on the Otay side is a lot easier to come by than on the SY side. Walking though the border is easy, although with the restrictions you may be asked to purchase a 180-day FMM. The "White and Gold" taxis have a stand right outside of the border station exit. DO NOT TAKE THESE unless you don't feel comfortable with the rest of this paragraph. The White / Gold are the airport taxis (a lot of Otay crossing by gringos is because they want to go to the airport) and they are probably the most expensive in all of Tijuana. Figure a minimum of $40 usd and probably closer to $60 usd to get from Otay to Ticuan. If you can follow the locals who are crossing you'll walk out of the building a bit, and then cross the traffic lanes entering mexico, go through a gap in the barrier, cross the lanes of traffic for the cars exiting Mexico, go through some shops, and emerge onto the SENTRI road which parallels a street called Josefina Rendon..

Phordphan
12-08-20, 21:06
Great post. Agree with everything. I've become more of a fan of Otay. The wait time can be significantly lower, offsetting the hassle.

Just wanted to add I took a yellow taxi from Ticuan to Otay about a week ago. It was $15. There are almost always 2 yellow taxis sitting outside Ticuan, even in the wee hours of the night. Taxi Libres can definitely save you a few dollars. To me, when I'm leaving Ticuan, I don't enjoy hauling a suitcase and backpack down Revolucion or Constitucion. Other than that, I used Taxi Libre exclusively. Uber is definitely cheaper than all.

Follow Phordfan's advice and you are golden. The walk to the Libres is accurate and it's really not as difficult as it seems.

And I would agree. Get out of the hotel. Revolucion is pretty safe. Constitucion (one block west) will give you more of a local feel. There are a few good taquerias on Constucion a few blocks north of Ticuan.Good info on the Amarillos! Thanks! I developed an antipathy to the Yellows back in the day when they had the exclusive at the border, and were always chiseling people who wanted to leave the ZN and go back to the border. $15 was a bit less than I had figured, especially for those who hang around the hotel all night. One good thing about them is that the cars tend to be larger, which is nice if you're hauling suitcases or something. It's hard to fit much into a Libre Corolla, and getting an Uber XL is always a crapshoot.

Phordphan
12-08-20, 21:16
All solid advice, but it would be nice to have a map for #2. Your wish is my command!

Here is a link to Google Maps. Note the section where the the'Volada coffee shop is. This is the "strip mall" to which one will cross. When you come out the other side you'll be looking at the SENTRI road. There's a grassy median, and then Josefina Rendon. Note that to the left, at the end of the road, there is a "Taxis Libres Garita Otay. " That's the Libre taxi stand.

By the way, there at the taxi stand, is a churro vendor and a hot dog cart. For some reason, they have the best hot dogs around. I try to always stop and have one, or two, when leaving, if the SENTRI line permits. 20 pesos per.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?msa=0&ie=UTF8&t=m&ll=32.54701219479422%2C-116.93631936741033&spn=0.000832%2C0.033456&source=embed&mid=1wALr_FJjV2dhyXcMhkW9bUI3MOM&z=18

Fmojo
12-08-20, 21:39
So I finally got my passport and will soon make my way to Tijuana. I would like some clarification / pointers on getting in and out smoothly and safety. I would appreciate any input that any one is kind enough to offer.

2. Otay Mesa Border Crossing.

I was planning on going through the Otay Mesa checkpoint. I was going to park on the US side then catch a cab to Hotel Ticuan. I park at Route 125 Parking correct? Is there anything I should be aware of when parking here and making my way through to the checkpoint? Are cabs readily available as soon as I cross or do I need to go to a specific area? Is there a specific type of cab I should use in preference over others? I am a little weary of using Uber. Is this feeling unfounded?

3. Hotel Specifics.

I may or may not go for a 3 some. I read that in order to have multiple guest at Hotel Ticuan I need to get a room with double beds. Is this true? Does this still apply if I have just one guest at a time but multiple throughout the day? They serve food at the Ticuan correct? I was planning to not leave the hotel.

Just my two pesos on a few things.

The white and gold taxi is $18 from Otay to Ticuan. I ask them every time I cross if they'll accept $10 and they always counter with $18.

If you walk down the street and get an Uber, it is between 130-150 mxp.

I always park at Plaza Parking which is right on Roll Drive and only a block from the border. $10 Mon-Thu, $15 Fri-Sun.

If you take a cab from Ticuan back to Otay, it's usually $15 but again, you should take an Uber.

If you do a 3 some, you HAVE to have a room with 2 beds at Ticuan. No problem with multiple chicas during your stay but just not at the same time.

Food at the Ticuan is pretty good. Breakfast for 2 is included but you have to be downstairs by 1030 a.

Phordphan
12-08-20, 23:11
Just my two pesos on a few things.

The white and gold taxi is $18 from Otay to Ticuan. I ask them every time I cross if they'll accept $10 and they always counter with $18.Wow. I'm shocked. Years ago, as an Otay noob, they took me a mile, or so, and it was almost $10. I've read reports of them charging $40+ from the airport to Centro. Maybe with the increased competition of the Libre's across the street they have become more competitive.

Dogers69
12-08-20, 23:46
Wow. I'm shocked. Years ago, as an Otay noob, they took me a mile, or so, and it was almost $10. I've read reports of them charging $40+ from the airport to Centro. Maybe with the increased competition of the Libre's across the street they have become more competitive.I used otay a lot this summer trying to get across the border with no passport. What I did was just walk south, you pass the taxis, then you stay on sidewalk keep walking south for 7 minutes till you see a road going horizontally. You walk to it, by taking 8 steps across the road heading south that you were on. At this point you have a bus stop, another cheaper taxi guy, and a good spot for uber. If you don't fear covid and don't have more than a backpack you can wait for the dollar or less bus that takes you to san Ysidro border and I think it took me near revolution. The uber was costing me 7 dollars from otay border to revolution.

ObviousAlias
12-09-20, 01:36
Wow! You guys really came through with all these tips. Thanks a lot. I think my other post got buried cause I don't see it LOL. So how do I go about making sure I don't get turned away for being "non essential. " I was thinking I make a dentist appointment and just not go. Or is there some issue with doing that?

Ctytek
12-09-20, 04:08
Wow! You guys really came through with all these tips. Thanks a lot. I think my other post got buried cause I don't see it LOL. So how do I go about making sure I don't get turned away for being "non essential. " I was thinking I make a dentist appointment and just not go. Or is there some issue with doing that?Just tell them that fucking paraditas is essential to your health. And that you've developed a Carpal tunnel syndrome from using your hand for so long. That usually works.

Fmojo
12-09-20, 06:43
Wow! You guys really came through with all these tips. Thanks a lot. I think my other post got buried cause I don't see it LOL. So how do I go about making sure I don't get turned away for being "non essential. " I was thinking I make a dentist appointment and just not go. Or is there some issue with doing that?If they ask, and they won't, you can tell them you're going to the Washington Dental Clinic (it's about a block from the Ticuan) to see Dr. Corona but since it's a clinic, it's walk-in patients only. It's Otay; fuggeddaboutit.

Captain Solo
12-09-20, 09:39
Caltran cameras show lots of cars on fwy 5 after midnight, like 5-10 cars every mile. WTF?

There must be lots of essential workers and people with emergencies, picking up medicines ect after midnight, who are exempted from Gov Newsome's curfew.

A couple guys in my crew did say they need to pick up their medicines, or need to go to emergency centers to be checked for possible chemical poisoning.

CHPs cannot arrest everyone, Can they?

ClamSlammer
12-09-20, 12:25
Got to Zona earlier than normal, about 8:30 pm. All the clubs were closed. First stop was Rizo. Talent was as expected for a Tues. I didn't see a single chica over a 6. Got bored pretty quick waiting for a decent chica to pass by, which never materialized. Decided to head to Jalos. There was a handful of 7's. One was really white and European looking but she was constantly being ficha'd by other mongers. Overall, it wasn't very busy but the chicas that were there seemed more desperate than usual. Lots of chicas were coming around trying to earn a ficha. And meseros kept on bringing chicas over even after I told them no. Seemed to me they were bringing the Saturday night hustle on a Tuesday. Stayed for one beer then headed to Cascadas.

Much busier than the other hotel clubs. The room closest to the entrance had a couple available tables but not many chicas out and about. The 3 premium rooms on the right as you enter were packed with nowhere to sit. There weren't that many chicas lining up the hallway though. Got sick of standing around with no where to sit so left after about 15 minutes.

Headed back to Rizo and had a beer. Seemed like the talent had actually gotten worse. I was seated near a table with younger mongers. One of them you could tell he thought he was so cool. But he looked like a creepy fool. He had the same hairstyle as Ponch from CHiPs. Just clueless. Got bored again and revisited Jalos. The high pressure atmosphere continued. Mesero kept on trying to bring over chicas and I kept on declining, until he finally brought over a decent looking one so I relented and ended up buying two fichas. I've never been a groper but she insisted so I went along with it. It wasn't a bad time but the chica wasn't rail thin like I prefer, but had a pretty face. I wasn't going to buy any more fichas and the wingman was ready to head back so we decided to make an exit.

Stopped by the main taco stand and now the adobada guy had a tip jar dangling from a rope and asked for a tip before he started to prepare my tacos. I hate it when people ask for tips so I will never eat at that stand again as long as that tip jar is still dangling.

To get to the Zona a Taxi Libre quoted us $50 mx. And the return trip, the blue / white taxi across from CC quoted $10 usd, which caused me to immediately turn around and walk away. Then the guy started shouting "$6" then "$5" which I continued to ignore. There were a couple other Taxi Libres that wanted $8 usd. Maybe all of a sudden I started to look like a newbie gullible tourist. But then I realized that since Uber's rollout 3-4 years ago I may not have taken a taxi so I had missed getting rip-off quotes for the past 3-4 years. Anyhow, settled for a $5 usd taxi and called it a night.

TjBrazil
12-09-20, 19:39
I can tell you in the last year I've gone to Tijuana 3 times and the price for cabs has gone up. I used to go to Ticuan for 50 pesos. You can't touch that now unless you have uber available. They are asking 100 pesos now. 80 if you really bargain with a bunch of them. It's not worth negotiating. Tell them 100 pesos and go. Get your sim card after you check in and use uber the rest of the trip.

SpeedToys
12-09-20, 19:50
Caltran cameras show lots of cars on fwy 5 after midnight, like 5-10 cars every mile. WTF?

There must be lots of essential workers and people with emergencies, picking up medicines ect after midnight, who are exempted from Gov Newsome's curfew.

A couple guys in my crew did say they need to pick up their medicines, or need to go to emergency centers to be checked for possible chemical poisoning.

CHPs cannot arrest everyone, Can they?Kinda hard to complain about those not in curfew, when you're also an active cross border virus vector.

Just sayin. .

Hargow20
12-09-20, 22:05
The curfew is aimed at restaurants and social gatherings. The CBP will not be enforcing it either. If a customs worker hassles you just tell them you had appointment and decided hang out Tijuana and head home.


Kinda hard to complain about those not in curfew, when you're also an active cross border virus vector.

Just sayin. .

Hargow20
12-09-20, 22:16
I noticed the price for Uber has gone up dramatically the last time used one in Tijuana. About 6 months it was only about $2 to get a Uber to the border. Personally I am going to take the Taxi vans instead. I have you can catch the vans at 3rd and Revolucion. I am uncertain the yelllow and whtie vans go that head North on Consitucion. They drive north on Constitucion and then make a right on Calle Cohuila st. I have seen the vans parked by Primera & Madero st. The vans wait there until they are needed.


I can tell you in the last year I've gone to Tijuana 3 times and the price for cabs has gone up. I used to go to Ticuan for 50 pesos. You can't touch that now unless you have uber available. They are asking 100 pesos now. 80 if you really bargain with a bunch of them. It's not worth negotiating. Tell them 100 pesos and go. Get your sim card after you check in and use uber the rest of the trip.

Artisttyp
12-09-20, 22:26
I noticed the price for Uber has gone up dramatically the last time used one in Tijuana. About 6 months it was only about $2 to get a Uber to the border. Personally I am going to take the Taxi vans instead. I have you can catch the vans at 3rd and Revolucion. I am uncertain the yelllow and whtie vans go that head North on Consitucion. They drive north on Constitucion and then make a right on Calle Cohuila st. I have seen the vans parked by Primera & Madero st. The vans wait there until they are needed.Vans In front of 7 11 across the street from the Mc Donalds / Plaza C calle 2 nda will take you to Pedeast. Runs late into the night. Maybe 12 am.

ClamSlammer
12-09-20, 22:52
I noticed the price for Uber has gone up dramatically the last time used one in Tijuana. About 6 months it was only about $2 to get a Uber to the border. Personally I am going to take the Taxi vans instead. I have you can catch the vans at 3rd and Revolucion. I am uncertain the yelllow and whtie vans go that head North on Consitucion. They drive north on Constitucion and then make a right on Calle Cohuila st. I have seen the vans parked by Primera & Madero st. The vans wait there until they are needed.I haven't noticed much price differences for Uber. If anything, priced have fallen. From my personal experience, it used to be $38 mx was the minimum for any ride. Lately, I've gotten rides for $33 mx. And now Uber offers two new services, Uber English and Uber Ahorra. Uber English is basically the exact same thing as the standard UberX. The driver is supposed to speak English but they really don't. One Uber English driver didn't speak English and wasn't even aware that he was Uber English. Sometimes the fares are a bit less, and sometimes a bit more. Uber Ahorra the fares are always less, but the wait time is longer.

As far as the taxi vans, I always take them when I cross on foot at PedEast. There's always one waiting and they provide a convenient, although sometimes uncomfortable and cramped ride depending on vehicle and time of day. It's better to disembark on Constitucion than Revolucion. It's a block close to the Zona, and the walk between 2 da and the alley on Constituction is a bit safer than the walk between Revolucion and Constitucion on 1 ra.

SpiderWolf
12-10-20, 01:35
Can anyone advise on T-Mobile and / or Verizon working in most parts of Tijuana with / without international plan? Want to make sure I can still be accessible.I have T-Mobile and I can confirm that there is free roaming in Tijuana that is sufficient for getting an Uber Ride for me at the Otay Crossing.

I do believe the data speeds are reduced though (2 G or 3 G).

This is a quote from their website "Call, text, and browse in Mexico & Canada. No setup. No roaming charges. Your phone works the moment you arrive. "

Hargow20
12-10-20, 03:26
The service is quite fast in Tijuana. There is however a data limit.


I have T-Mobile and I can confirm that there is free roaming in Tijuana that is sufficient for getting an Uber Ride for me at the Otay Crossing.

I do believe the data speeds are reduced though (2 G or 3 G).

This is a quote from their website "Call, text, and browse in Mexico & Canada. No setup. No roaming charges. Your phone works the moment you arrive. "

Artisttyp
12-10-20, 05:27
The service is quite fast in Tijuana. There is however a data limit.True. I received a warning text that I was using too much of my data in Mexico. They threaten to cut service if this continues. The funny thing is how would they cut service on a phone I still owe them money for? If they cut my service I wouldn't need that phone anymore.

StRobert
12-10-20, 06:42
Link https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/coronavirus/5-stage-national-covid-vaccination-plan/ Healthcare workers then seniors are first in line in 5-stage Covid vaccination plan.

75% of population 16 and over to be vaccinated by the end of next year.

Published on Tuesday, December 8, 2020.

Healthcare workers will be the first people in Mexico to be immunized against Covid-19 under a five-stage national vaccination plan presented Tuesday by the federal government.

Second in line are people aged 80 and over followed by those in the 70-79 age bracket.

Deputy Health Minister Hugo López-Gatell, the government's coronavirus point man, told President López Obrador's morning news conference that the intention is to administer Covid-19 vaccines to about 75% of the population aged 16 and over by the end of next year.

According to the vaccination plan, the immunization of frontline healthcare workers using the Pfizer vaccine will begin this month and conclude in February 2021.

Health Minister Jorge Alcocer said Monday that people considered particularly vulnerable to a serious Covid-19 illness due to existing health conditions will also have early access to immunization.

Health Minister Alcocer: people considered particularly vulnerable due to existing health conditions will also have early access.

The Pfizer vaccine is expected to be approved by the health regulator Cofepris this month and a first shipment of 250,000 doses is to arrive soon after. That number of doses will allow 125,000 healthcare workers to be inoculated as each person requires two shots given 21 days apart.

Mexico struck a deal with Pfizer last week to buy 34.4 million doses of its Covid-19 vaccine, which was shown to be 95% effective in phase 3 trials. One million doses are slated to arrive in Mexico in each of January, February and March and a shipment of 12 million doses is expected in April.

In stage 2 of the vaccination plan, which will run from February to April, the government intends to immunize non-frontline health workers and people aged over 60, starting with those 80 or older. Immunization of people aged 50-59 will occur in stage 3 in April and May while those between 40 and 49 are to be vaccinated against Covid-19 in stage 4 next May and June.

In stage 5, the rest of the population will be immunized between June 2021 and March 2022.

López-Gatell said the vaccination schedule creates "new horizons of hope" for Mexico and the world.

"We'll be working throughout 2021 as the different vaccines appear," he said, adding that the government already has agreements to purchase three.

Foreign Minister Ebrard: having early access to vaccine is 'a great achievement' for Mexico.

The deputy health minister predicted that more vaccines will be approved in 2021, providing the opportunity to purchase additional shipments from different suppliers.

Foreign Minister Marcelo Ebrard noted that the government has an agreement to purchase 77.4 million doses of the AstraZeneca / Oxford University vaccine, adding that it will sign a deal this week to buy 35 million doses of China's CanSino Biologics vaccine.

Phase 3 trials of the CanSino vaccine and four other Covid-19 vaccines are currently taking place in Mexico, he said.

"In a nutshell, we have access to the vaccine," the foreign minister said. "It will be up to us to approve each one or not. We have guaranteed and signed access. ".

Cofepris approval of the Pfizer vaccine is expected to be facilitated by its likely imminent authorization by the United States Food and Drug Administration and the European Medicines Agency. The rollout of the vaccine began in the United Kingdom on Tuesday.

In Mexico, the first doses of the Pfizer vaccine could be administered to health workers in Mexico City and Coahuila as soon as next week. That Mexico will be one of the first countries in the world to inoculate people against Covid-19 is "a great achievement," Ebrard said.

Mexico has been one of the worst affected countries by the coronavirus pandemic, currently ranking 12th for confirmed cases and fourth for Covid-19 deaths, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University.

The accumulated case tally increased to 1,182,249 on Monday with 6,399 new cases reported while the official death toll rose to 110,074 with 357 additional fatalities.

Source: Infobae sp, Milenio sp.

Jackie888
12-10-20, 14:06
Damn I was hoping that the chicas could get their vaccination before summer.

Rainman306
12-11-20, 00:44
It seems the pros recommend exchanging all money into Pesos, but do these Tijuana pros keep a stack of USA $1 bills with them? The 20 peso note is small, and I'm not so sure its easy to get them in large quantities. So I kinda assume the pros keep at least $20 to $100 in USA $1 bills with them.

The two concerns I have with an all Peso currency is:

1. Get too many peso coins back in change when buying drinks in the bars.

2. That there may still be somewhere in the Zona that won't take pesos.

ClamSlammer
12-11-20, 01:40
It seems the pros recommend exchanging all money into Pesos, but do these Tijuana pros keep a stack of USA $1 bills with them? The 20 peso note is small, and I'm not so sure its easy to get them in large quantities. So I kinda assume the pros keep at least $20 to $100 in USA $1 bills with them.

The two concerns I have with an all Peso currency is:

1. Get too many peso coins back in change when buying drinks in the bars.

2. That there may still be somewhere in the Zona that won't take pesos.Every person and place in Mexico will take pesos. In Tijuana, the overwhelming majority of places will accept dollars. The exchange rate will vary by location of course. The only things I'm aware of that you cannot pay in dollars are utility bills. You are correct that you will receive many coins back if you are paying with pesos in the bars. It is a very common scam by meseros. If you're sitting with a puta and buy drinks and pay with pesos, they will bring back a ton of coins in change, which will undoubtedly be short. They're relying on you to not look like a cheapskate in front of the puta and count every last coin. Right now it's better to tip dollar bills than $20 peso notes because they're worth a bit less.

TomJackin
12-11-20, 01:42
It seems the pros recommend exchanging all money into Pesos, but do these Tijuana pros keep a stack of USA $1 bills with them? The 20 peso note is small, and I'm not so sure its easy to get them in large quantities. So I kinda assume the pros keep at least $20 to $100 in USA $1 bills with them.

The two concerns I have with an all Peso currency is:

1. Get too many peso coins back in change when buying drinks in the bars.

2. That there may still be somewhere in the Zona that won't take pesos.For the first part, yes, dollar bills are great for groping fees. My bank seems to already know me, thus, I stock up. Plus, for regular tipping, a buck is a good option.

1 - I use the coins most of the time; it's money!

2 - You will be in Mexico, Mexico will take some, if not all, of your pesos!

Dogers69
12-11-20, 03:05
It seems the pros recommend exchanging all money into Pesos, but do these Tijuana pros keep a stack of USA $1 bills with them? The 20 peso note is small, and I'm not so sure its easy to get them in large quantities. So I kinda assume the pros keep at least $20 to $100 in USA $1 bills with them.

The two concerns I have with an all Peso currency is:

1. Get too many peso coins back in change when buying drinks in the bars.

2. That there may still be somewhere in the Zona that won't take pesos.Your in Mexico everyone will take pesos if that's all you have. You need to have both anyway. And also, in small denominations avoid the 500 peso as nobody is going to give you change for it in a lot cases. Sure restaurants but best to have 200 100 50 peso bills. I bring 5 bucks in quarters to Tijuana to tip people 50 cents at times, in cases where maybe others tip a dollar or nothing. Like bathroom attendant, if I pay 4 bucks for a beer, if it's free beer I tip 1 dollar, street beggars, taco guy asks for tip, I'm not paying 1 dollar tip for 1 dollar taco. Normal bars even rich friends in Tijuana tip 50 cents beer and basically at around 10% vs USA norm of 20%. To get small denominations pesos sometimes you have to stand in different money exchange lines, give her 20 bucks cash, for pesos, do that few times. Stick to dollars for your drinks in HK or other bars unless you are familiar with the scene otherwise you could lose out on fake exchange rates, waiters thinking your too drunk to figure pesos out.

Jinxx
12-11-20, 03:55
It seems the pros recommend exchanging all money into Pesos, but do these Tijuana pros keep a stack of USA $1 bills with them? The 20 peso note is small, and I'm not so sure its easy to get them in large quantities. So I kinda assume the pros keep at least $20 to $100 in USA $1 bills with them.

The two concerns I have with an all Peso currency is:

1. Get too many peso coins back in change when buying drinks in the bars.

2. That there may still be somewhere in the Zona that won't take pesos.One dollar bills and 20 peso bills are basically treated as equal. One major exception is with door girls, always use pesos with them or you could easily pay double.

I like to keep a bunch of ones on me because I like to grope every hot horny chica that I see without immediately commiting to a ficha. It's a great way to "break the ice".

One thing I DON'T recommend is "making it rain". I do it sometimes, on a small scale, and it's usually just pointless. Better to spend your money on fichas or arriba.

Phordphan
12-11-20, 04:56
It seems the pros recommend exchanging all money into Pesos, but do these Tijuana pros keep a stack of USA $1 bills with them? The 20 peso note is small, and I'm not so sure its easy to get them in large quantities. So I kinda assume the pros keep at least $20 to $100 in USA $1 bills with them.

The two concerns I have with an all Peso currency is:

1. Get too many peso coins back in change when buying drinks in the bars.

2. That there may still be somewhere in the Zona that won't take pesos.It takes some practice to start using coins to pay for stuff because Americans tend to hate coins. Hence we still have a $1 bill. But with practice you'll get the hang of it.

There is NO PLACE IN MEXICO that will not take pesos. By that I mean a bar, club, restaurant, etc. Some landlords, illegally, charge rent in dollars.

I rarely have more than one emergency $20 bill on me, and maybe a few $1. I tip in pesos. 10 pesos for a round of drinks, maybe more if the situation warrants it. 20 pesos for anything I'd normally tip $1 for.

Thunder12
12-11-20, 15:41
I discovered Tijuana, this forum, and this lifestyle about 5 years ago. It was mind blowing, to live in southern California and not be sex deprived ever again. Went from being overworked / depressed to being as happy and free as I've ever been. Then I remember in 2018 or so I had a collection of thoughts like "what could possibly change in Mexico that would kill off zona norte? And a pandemic didn't even cross my mind. The only plausible thought I had was that if the Mexican government put its foot down and forced zona norte to shut down. Then fast forward to now and covid happened, and zona isn't the same as before. The reason I'm explaining all of this is because of a recent trend I've noticed on my social media this week. I am 'friends' on social media with about a dozen chicas that I met in Tijuana (but they live elsewhere), and 3 of them have vowed to not return to Tijuana or this lifestyle again. They're starting to get their shit together, even with a child at home. I spoke with one yesterday who said she enrolled in university and is started classes in January. Another one has started a banking job at Banamex. Another one got a covid scare and is now back home living with her mom and helping their family business. All 3 of them have transformed their social media and removed their sexy photos and now look like average, normal women. Aside from working in the zona, they seem completely normal and I absolutely wouldn't mind dating any of them. They've never begged me for money and we occasionally talk on the phone / etc. I'm going to invite each of them, individually, to 3 or 4 days in Cancun and see if there's chemistry with any.

Captain Solo
12-11-20, 20:24
During the recent Tijuana bars reopening, there were a lot fewer clients, like 10 to 20 % preCoVid, and probably about 60- 80 % girls as before.

Girls were doing very little business, not bought fichas or taken to hotel, like 10% as before. Even local girls could not make any money in bars, pleading with clients for quick cash for food. Girls from out of state would lose money with air fares, room and board.

For serious relationship you may want to hang out in civies bars or local universities. Some of these girls are angelic looking and may be good long-term partners.

Jackie888
12-11-20, 20:53
It seems the pros recommend exchanging all money into Pesos, but do these Tijuana pros keep a stack of USA $1 bills with them? The 20 peso note is small, and I'm not so sure its easy to get them in large quantities. So I kinda assume the pros keep at least $20 to $100 in USA $1 bills with them.

The two concerns I have with an all Peso currency is:

1. Get too many peso coins back in change when buying drinks in the bars.

2. That there may still be somewhere in the Zona that won't take pesos.Coins = bathroom tip, restaurant tip.

ClamSlammer
12-11-20, 23:16
Got to Zona at 10 pm. All clubs still closed. First stop was Jalos. Talent was disappointing. Worse than Tuesday. Meseros constantly kept trying to bring over chicas. Were acting shocked when I would turn down 38 year old, 180 lbs tatted hags. I'm beginning to wonder if there is a tattoo artist in-house. Stupid hookah guy would come by every 10 minutes too. There was one chica that was about a 7 that my wingman ficha'd. That was about it.

Next and last stop was Rizo. Stayed about hour and half. Talent was surprisingly good. More than a handful of young, slim, fresh-looking chicas I hadn't seen before. Overall, the total number of chicas wasn't much higher than Tuesday, but the number of decent 7's was respectable. Didn't get to hit Cascadas. On my way out I walked the alley and found two blondes that previously worked at HK. They were each standing at opposite sides of HK alley door. I met them right before Covid, around Jan or Feb. One was just average looking but the other was about an 8. Thin, natural, 18 with only minimal tatts. At the time she said it was her first week. It was odd because to me, she was the hottest puta in HK but she hardly got any attention. I would always see her standing by herself at the mini stairs. The other blonde is supposedly her sister but I don't buy it. But they both have tatts that say "Luis" and they claim that's their father's name. Whatever. Anyhow, as Covid began shuttering the bars, they disappeared. Didn't see them again until late November, when they were working Cascadas. And now they're in the alley.

KC Questor
12-12-20, 00:25
It is a very common scam by meseros. If you're sitting with a puta and buy drinks and pay with pesos, they will bring back a ton of coins in change, which will undoubtedly be short. They're relying on you to not look like a cheapskate in front of the puta and count every last coin.This is 100% accurate. When you pay with dollars, the most change you'll get back is three quarters. When you pay with pesos, if you don't have exact change you'll get back a stack of coins. Not only is it an easy scam by the meseros, but now you have a stack of coins in your pocket. Pay with dollars in the zona bars -- it is WAY easier and the exchange rate won't bite you (most of the time it's in your favor).

BigButtDetecto
12-12-20, 02:42
I discovered Tijuana, this forum, and this lifestyle about 5 years ago. It was mind blowing, to live in southern California and not be sex deprived ever again. Went from being overworked / depressed to being as happy and free as I've ever been. Then I remember in 2018 or so I had a collection of thoughts like "what could possibly change in Mexico that would kill off zona norte? And a pandemic didn't even cross my mind. The only plausible thought I had was that if the Mexican government put its foot down and forced zona norte to shut down. Then fast forward to now and covid happened, and zona isn't the same as before. The reason I'm explaining all of this is because of a recent trend I've noticed on my social media this week. I am 'friends' on social media with about a dozen chicas that I met in Tijuana (but they live elsewhere), and 3 of them have vowed to not return to Tijuana or this lifestyle again. They're starting to get their shit together, even with a child at home. I spoke with one yesterday who said she enrolled in university and is started classes in January. Another one has started a banking job at Banamex. Another one got a covid scare and is now back home living with her mom and helping their family business. All 3 of them have transformed their social media and removed their sexy photos and now look like average, normal women. Aside from working in the zona, they seem completely normal and I absolutely wouldn't mind dating any of them. They've never begged me for money and we occasionally talk on the phone / etc. I'm going to invite each of them, individually, to 3 or 4 days in Cancun and see if there's chemistry with any.In Tijuana, girls come and go. Its a vast country with a lot of poor people. My guess is there will always be putas unless the religion steps in. My advice is when you go with a girl, always ask for her phone #. She may hang around away from zona norte.

Artisttyp
12-12-20, 03:03
I discovered Tijuana, this forum, and this lifestyle about 5 years ago. It was mind blowing, to live in southern California and not be sex deprived ever again. Went from being overworked / depressed to being as happy and free as I've ever been. Then I remember in 2018 or so I had a collection of thoughts like "what could possibly change in Mexico that would kill off zona norte? And a pandemic didn't even cross my mind. The only plausible thought I had was that if the Mexican government put its foot down and forced zona norte to shut down. Then fast forward to now and covid happened, and zona isn't the same as before. The reason I'm explaining all of this is because of a recent trend I've noticed on my social media this week. I am 'friends' on social media with about a dozen chicas that I met in Tijuana (but they live elsewhere), and 3 of them have vowed to not return to Tijuana or this lifestyle again. They're starting to get their shit together, even with a child at home. I spoke with one yesterday who said she enrolled in university and is started classes in January. Another one has started a banking job at Banamex. Another one got a covid scare and is now back home living with her mom and helping their family business. All 3 of them have transformed their social media and removed their sexy photos and now look like average, normal women. Aside from working in the zona, they seem completely normal and I absolutely wouldn't mind dating any of them. They've never begged me for money and we occasionally talk on the phone / etc. I'm going to invite each of them, individually, to 3 or 4 days in Cancun and see if there's chemistry with any.Great Post. Extremely Thoughtful.

When Covid first appeared I had a hunch it was going to be a game changer for mongering. I got rid of my Tijuana apartment about 2 months into it. I just couldn't see myself down there mongering any time soon. Unfortunately I was right. I would have been paying for an empty apartment.

The girls continuing to work now are the desperate types who don't care about themselves or you. The guys going down right now have a choice to make. They don't NEED to be doing this but I would assume most are in the aging category or just not giving a shit living reckless lives like many mongers do including myself. I don't knock it and I understand why. But even then I am not ready to condone driving off the cliff. Not just yet. If the vaccines are a failure and there is no hope DEATH BY PUSSY is better than DEATH WITH NO PUSSY. I just don't think we have reached that point yet. We might.

Any girl with half a brain and / or a modicum of family support would get out of Tijuana immediately. It seems like you know some fine women.

I WILL monger again once the vaccines are into circulation but even then we have another year of masks and risk protocols to adhere to until we get rid of it. This is worse than AIDS IMO for the mongering community.

It has been a really hard time for older mongers who like you (and me) were living the dream.

I am in the same boat as you. I had a really nice life going for myself between SD and Tijuana and random overseas trips.

I grieve for all mongers. Wishing you all can maintain enough discipline to get through this and come out victorious on the other end. These are hard times for us. Best wishes and godspeed to all this upcoming FESTIVUS.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/stop-wearing-mask-getting-covid-080414400.html

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-borders-canada-mexico-stay-172938459.html

Thunder12
12-12-20, 03:19
Great Post. Extremely Thoughtful.

When Covid first appeared I had a hunch it was going to be a game changer for mongering. I got rid of my Tijuana apartment about 2 months into it. I just couldn't see myself down there mongering any time soon. Unfortunately I was right. I would have been paying for an empty apartment.

The girls continuing to work now are the desperate types who don't care about themselves or you. The guys going down right now have a choice to make. They don't NEED to be doing this but I would assume most are in the aging category or just not giving a shit living reckless lives like many mongers do including myself. I don't knock it and I understand why. But even then I am not ready to condone driving off the cliff. Not just yet. If the vaccines are a failure and there is no hope DEATH BY PUSSY is better than DEATH WITH NO PUSSY. I just don't think we have reached that point yet. We might.

Any girl with half a brain and / or a modicum of family support would get out of Tijuana immediately. It seems like you know some fine women.

I WILL monger again once the vaccines are into circulation but even then we have another year of masks and risk protocols to adhere to until we get rid of it. This is worse than AIDS IMO for the mongering community.

It has been a really hard time for older mongers who like you (and me) were living the dream.Thanks for that. Very insightful. The women I chase and choose to remain in touch with aren't necessarily the 10/10 chicas in the bars. Those ones usually have dull personalities. I try to make a connection (it helps that I speak Spanish) with the chicas at the bar before even going upstairs. If I can make them laugh and there's a hint of chemistry, we'll go upstairs. Whether or not they decide to remain in touch with me is 50/50. As my spanish has improved, my odds have greatly improved.

Hargow20
12-12-20, 03:44
My own belief is that prostitution is something that girl does for whatever reason. The smart ones do it part time or a part of their life. The thing to realize is that prostitution is not a lifetime career. Once their looks go downhill guys will no longer go with them. There is some girls like Carina that has been working for years on end. I feel sorry for the girls that I see for years and years in the Zona. The best girls are the ones work part time. Olivia told me recently that she is moving and got a job as a sign language interpreter. I wished her the best and told said that is a good choice. When Lindsey quit I wished her good luck as well. Phone numbers do help. But most of them go bad quickly. I find that usually phone numbers are only good for a weeks. This is because the girls are constantly losing them for some odd reason.


In Tijuana, girls come and go. Its a vast country with a lot of poor people. My guess is there will always be putas unless the religion steps in. My advice is when you go with a girl, always ask for her phone #. She may hang around away from zona norte.

Artisttyp
12-12-20, 04:18
MWhen Lindsey quit I wished her good luck as well..What ever became of her? Did she move in with a monger she was seeing?

Dogers69
12-12-20, 05:48
I discovered Tijuana, this forum, and this lifestyle about 5 years ago. It was mind blowing, to live in southern California and not be sex deprived ever again. Went from being overworked / depressed to being as happy and free as I've ever been. Then I remember in 2018 or so I had a collection of thoughts like "what could possibly change in Mexico that would kill off zona norte? And a pandemic didn't even cross my mind. The only plausible thought I had was that if the Mexican government put its foot down and forced zona norte to shut down. Then fast forward to now and covid happened, and zona isn't the same as before. The reason I'm explaining all of this is because of a recent trend I've noticed on my social media this week. I am 'friends' on social media with about a dozen chicas that I met in Tijuana (but they live elsewhere), and 3 of them have vowed to not return to Tijuana or this lifestyle again. They're starting to get their shit together, even with a child at home. I spoke with one yesterday who said she enrolled in university and is started classes in January. Another one has started a banking job at Banamex. Another one got a covid scare and is now back home living with her mom and helping their family business. All 3 of them have transformed their social media and removed their sexy photos and now look like average, normal women. Aside from working in the zona, they seem completely normal and I absolutely wouldn't mind dating any of them. They've never begged me for money and we occasionally talk on the phone / etc. I'm going to invite each of them, individually, to 3 or 4 days in Cancun and see if there's chemistry with any.75% of the HK girls were always part time anyway. Either they left for other sex paying jobs in different countries or Southern Mexico, or they left for different jobs or some would simply travel to Europe 6 months a year. Some return many don't. All can get a boyfriend to pay a lot of their bills but for reasons don't want one at that moment. I would use caution in contacting girls who have left. All woman always have a love interest. I've never met a halfway decent lookin American woman who isn't constantly getting hit on almost everyday. These woman will have men they are seeing, maybe back with ex boyfriends, some, if they know, will have anger towards guys who paid to bang her, almost all will have angry ex husband's ex boyfriends who are mad they sell pussy when the husband probably had to beg for his sex with her when married. It can lead to dangerous situation one Colombian man called me for a year for my address due to 2 coffee dates from tinder with his ex wife.

Cocr Brotheler
12-12-20, 08:12
When do why'all think it will re-open again? I absolutely loved inside of HK back in early Nov. But as always my timing was off. Friday afternoons and Sat just too busy, too much vice, the Manager of the shuttle back to the border a real AH to me yelling me give the driver a good tip which I gave them all regardless. I re-booked mid January last month to arrive Sun. 17th and Monday 18th with discounts on Cascadas rooms and not so much pretense! Think HK back open full by then? If not at least I can rebook my SWA to go partying in Florida nightclubs. .

Phordphan
12-12-20, 08:18
This is 100% accurate. When you pay with dollars, the most change you'll get back is three quarters. When you pay with pesos, if you don't have exact change you'll get back a stack of coins. Not only is it an easy scam by the meseros, but now you have a stack of coins in your pocket. Pay with dollars in the zona bars -- it is WAY easier and the exchange rate won't bite you (most of the time it's in your favor).Fuck those meseros. I use to feel that way. Now I stop and count every fucking coin. If they will pull that shit, I'll play along. A real Mexican damn sure would. So, I count every coin, and then, assuming it's correct, I tip the guy 10 pesos. 15 if I'm feeling generous. Then I keep the stack of coins on the table, and the next round I use the coins to pay for it. Two can play at that game.

Oh, and in lots of "local" bars, if you pay in dollars you'll get change in pesos. That's not an issue the the gringo-centric zona bars.

Hargow20
12-12-20, 08:35
Lindsey to San Diego east county. She had a child. So my guess is she is taking care of her kid.


What ever became of her? Did she move in with a monger she was seeing?

Artisttyp
12-12-20, 10:06
Lindsey to San Diego east county. She had a child. So my guess is she is taking care of her kid.Good for her. I hope that she is doing well. She was cool to talk to and session with.

Jackie888
12-12-20, 15:41
My own belief is that prostitution is something that girl does for whatever reason. The smart ones do it part time or a part of their life. The thing to realize is that prostitution is not a lifetime career. Once their looks go downhill guys will no longer go with them. There is some girls like Carina that has been working for years on end. I feel sorry for the girls that I see for years and years in the Zona. The best girls are the ones work part time. Olivia told me recently that she is moving and got a job as a sign language interpreter. I wished her the best and told said that is a good choice. When Lindsey quit I wished her good luck as well. Phone numbers do help. But most of them go bad quickly. I find that usually phone numbers are only good for a weeks. This is because the girls are constantly losing them for some odd reason.I think Mexicans tend to buy short term phone contracts. At least the chicas do. Many of the chicas I know send me their new phone number every 3 months or so because their old contract (chip) expired.

Travv
12-12-20, 17:09
What do women want? American Buck $$$ and Bad Boys. . . And they can find these things in Zona Norte. . .

" . . . Women (as a group) have signaled to men that what they really want are exciting sexy badboys, not boring loyal dudes. It isn't that women no longer want to marry beta providers, they just don't want to waste a day more of their youth and fertility on their husband than absolutely necessary. As a result, some up and coming boring loyal dudes aren't knocking themselves out in their twenties while they wait for their future wife to tire of having sex with other men. Wente (partially) understands this too. . . What Wente doesn't understand is that timing is everything. From an economic point of view, women are dividing up sexual access that traditionally would have been reserved only for their husband into two blocks. The first block contains their most attractive and fertile years, and it is dedicated to no strings sex with exciting badboys. Then, once women reach what Rollo calls the epiphany phase, they want to bargain sexual access in their remaining (older and less fertile) years for maximum beta buck $$$ {aka Alimony}" https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2017/10/04/theyre-back-in-your-20s-where-you-left-them/.


My own belief is that prostitution is something that girl does for whatever reason. The smart ones do it part time or a part of their life. The thing to realize is that prostitution is not a lifetime career. Once their looks go downhill guys will no longer go with them. There is some girls like Carina that has been working for years on end. I feel sorry for the girls that I see for years and years in the Zona. The best girls are the ones work part time. Olivia told me recently that she is moving and got a job as a sign language interpreter. I wished her the best and told said that is a good choice. When Lindsey quit I wished her good luck as well. Phone numbers do help. But most of them go bad quickly. I find that usually phone numbers are only good for a weeks. This is because the girls are constantly losing them for some odd reason.

Hargow20
12-12-20, 17:36
LIndsey gave good service. But she had cold personality. She was not rude, but impersonal often.


Good for her. I hope that she is doing well. She was cool to talk to and session with.

LuvMexicanas
12-12-20, 19:04
I'm writing this report in the general section because it covers various topics. I arrived Friday night and I can tell you basically everything is open and business as usual in Centro. In fact, Revo was buzzing aside from the businesses that shuttered because of COVID. El Copeo was packed and the 2nd floor bar across from Hotel Rio Rita is an awesome place with ambiance, craft beer and hot high class Mexicanas. Having said all that, the businesses have at least some semblance of protocols compared to the states I've been in lately domestically. Everywhere conducted a temperature check and required application of hand sanitizer prior to entry. The Zona was quiet on the surface but not inside the makeshift hotel clubs. Those were buzzing. I'm not one of those COVID excessive worriers, but I'm not looking to get it either. If you go to the 7th floor of Hong Kong, then you're someone who is intentionally trying to get COVID. People were packed inside in a manner that would make a perfect picture illustration in a dictionary for superspreader event. The main hallway was not people moving and instead a bunch of young, asymptotic SoCal guys standing shoulder to shoulder with chicas. I saw it and bolted faster than a fart in the wind. Tropical has a nice setup, but Chicago had the funniest girls. Finally, I'm a menudo junkie and might have found my new favorite joint in Ricardo's on Calle 7. For my nightcap, I banged out one of my faves to take a stroll down memory lane.

LuvMexicanas
12-12-20, 19:23
I think Mexicans tend to buy short term phone contracts. At least the chicas do. Many of the chicas I know send me their new phone number every 3 months or so because their old contract (chip) expired.That or they simply didn't pay their bill.

Dickus Maximus
12-12-20, 21:25
... I got rid of my Tijuana apartment about 2 months into it. I just couldn't see myself down there mongering any time soon. Unfortunately I was right. I would have been paying for an empty apartment. ...I'm interested in getting a place down there. Where was your apartment? How big? Furnished or unfurnished? And cost?

Artisttyp
12-12-20, 22:20
I'm interested in getting a place down there. Where was your apartment? How big? Furnished or unfurnished? And cost?Furnished.

1 room studio.

2 blocks from Hotel Ticuan.

$200 a month.

Not available anymore.

Walk around ask questions call numbers from the street. Owners will come right down and show you what they have. At least pre covid.

You would be unwise to move to Tijuana right now. Hunker down until this is over.

ClamSlammer
12-12-20, 23:30
I think Mexicans tend to buy short term phone contracts. At least the chicas do. Many of the chicas I know send me their new phone number every 3 months or so because their old contract (chip) expired.Mexicans don't tend to buy short term phone contracts. They tend to buy pay-as-you-go service, which in the cellular world is known as no-contract service, although anytime you hand over any money to a business, you are entering into a contract. American-style two year contracts which include a device are rare in Mexico, as most people have no credit or bad credit. Because a substantial percentage of the population work for cash off the books.

If chicas are getting new numbers every 3 months, it is not because their contract expired. They can always reload at Oxxo and keep their same number. They are getting new numbers because there are people they wish to avoid. Or if a chica was gifted her SIM card by someone else, then loses her phone, Telcel / Movistar will only issue a replacement SIM to the named account holder.

Travv
12-13-20, 18:08
The pandemic was raging, but on the beaches of Cabo San Lucas it felt like spring break. Down near the water, 24-year-old Kierston Jackson sat entwined with her boyfriend, their matching blue surgical masks a small concession to the coronavirus. "It's a good change of pace," said Jackson, a Houston resident, as she gazed at the gently lapping waves. "I'd definitely prefer to be here with a mask on than in my home without one." Unwelcome in many countries as the virus surges worldwide, USA Tourists are fleeing lockdowns at home and flocking to Mexico. Nearly half a million Americans flew to Mexico in October — the most recent month for which data is available — mainly to beaches on the Pacific and Caribbean coasts. . . The influx of Americans is a ray of hope for the country's battered tourism sector, which has hemorrhaged more than $11 billion this year. . .

Castro said Mexico's coronavirus protocols — which include temperature checks at the entrances to stores, hotels and restaurants — seemed better than those in California.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/unwelcome-other-countries-americans-fleeing-110037262.html

ObviousAlias
12-13-20, 23:29
I want to thank everyone that helped me out with info. I had a great time and I'm already planning my second trip! I really need to relearn Spanish. Right when I parked I met this dude (now a friend / bro) who was basically my guru. He made sure I got to the right places, told me where and where not to go, gave advice on good places to go for all kinds of things, talked to border officers for me and even negotiated a taxi for me. Also they didn't not ask where I was going at all (but my guru did all the talking).

Urfikhan
12-14-20, 00:17
Coins = bathroom tip, restaurant tip.I even use quarters. Think of quarters as 5 peso and use for tipping bathroom attendants, bell boys or meseros. For Limo drivers do a dollar. Is the HK limo still running?

Dogers69
12-14-20, 02:32
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LuvMexicanas
12-14-20, 09:37
Hotels are very important. That goes without saying. We should share more info so folks don't learn the hard way. I'll share a bit on Hotel Rio Rita: super polite staff, awesome balcony overlooking Revo, sleek modern rooms and more TV channels than you could ever watch. Girl friendly to boot. Notice how I said girl as in singular. The first puta is no problem. She registers at the front desk and she comes to your room, easy right? The catch is once you do that you're done. She can visit you as much as you want but you cannot register anyone else.

Hotel Baja is not somewhere I'd stay more than a night but it is a perfect fuckpad. I paid 680 and you can parade in an endless number of chicas no questions asked. I think the front desk guys enjoy it because it breaks up the monotony for them.

Turgid
12-14-20, 13:01
The pandemic was raging, but on the beaches of Cabo San Lucas it felt like spring break. Down near the water, 24-year-old Kierston Jackson sat entwined with her boyfriend, their matching blue surgical masks a small concession to the coronavirus. "It's a good change of pace," said Jackson, a Houston resident, as she gazed at the gently lapping waves. "I'd definitely prefer to be here with a mask on than in my home without one." Unwelcome in many countries as the virus surges worldwide, USA Tourists are fleeing lockdowns at home and flocking to Mexico. Nearly half a million Americans flew to Mexico in October the most recent month for which data is available mainly to beaches on the Pacific and Caribbean coasts. . . The influx of Americans is a ray of hope for the country's battered tourism sector, which has hemorrhaged more than $11 billion this year. . .

Castro said Mexico's coronavirus protocols which include temperature checks at the entrances to stores, hotels and restaurants seemed better than those in California.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/unwelcome-other-countries-americans-fleeing-110037262.htmlGood for the Mexican economy.

LuvMexicanas
12-14-20, 17:48
LE Conteiner is the best place to pick up civies. It's a short $40 mx Uber ride from the Zona located across from Costco in Zona Rio. Cheap too, only $150 mx for a bucket of 12 domestic beers. Packed with young civies in tight outfits. If you want to go more upscale, there is Alebrije, which is in Pueblo Amigo plaza. This is more like a nightclub atmosphere with bottle service prevalent. Then on Revolucion you can try El Copeo and Las Pulgas. They both have cheap beers $15 mx. Copeo is for the younger crowd. Las Pulgas is gigantic with separate "salons" featuring different types on music. There is often a live band on weekends in one of the salons. You'll see lots of middle aged folks along with younger patrons too. Then there is Calle 6 ta which intersects Revolucion. Lots of little bars but none very appealing. Lots of little dives. But overall I'd definitely recommend LE Conteiner. I drive past all the time and they are definitely open, not sure what time they close now though.Me and another bro drove past Conteiner on Sunday afternoon and he pointed it out as a cool spot so I had to search the Tijuana threads to see if anyone had written on it. Couldn't tell if it was open. I definitely plan on hitting it up at some point. I've had some maduras eyeball me at Pulgas, but I've had the best luck in Copeo. I met this one earlier this year there and repeated Sunday morning to kick off the day right. She's 5'4 and 115 pounds, which fits my ideal parameters along with the paler skin tone and not too big of boobs.

Dickus Maximus
12-14-20, 20:45
Me and another bro drove past Conteiner on Sunday afternoon and he pointed it out as a cool spot so I had to search the Tijuana threads to see if anyone had written on it. Couldn't tell if it was open. I definitely plan on hitting it up at some point. I've had some maduras eyeball me at Pulgas, but I've had the best luck in Copeo. I met this one earlier this year there and repeated Sunday morning to kick off the day right. She's 5'4 and 115 pounds, which fits my ideal parameters along with the paler skin tone and not too big of boobs.LE Conteiner is crap right now. No dancing. No mingling. All you can do is sit at your chair and drink and eat the crappy food you have to buy because it can't be a bar only. Green Witch is better.

What age range are you in? I'm around 60. Not in horrible shape. But don't know about picking up a 20 something in Copeo. (although a group in Green Witch invited me to go to Conteiner with them, then one bitchy one with them started cock blocking because "he's like 40. ").

ClamSlammer
12-14-20, 23:48
I'll share a bit on Hotel Rio Rita...the first puta is no problem. The catch is once you do that you're done. She can visit you as much as you want but you cannot register anyone else.An easy way to get around this is to break up your multiple night stay into separate reservations, one for each night. Just go to the front desk and check out every day then immediately check in. That way you'll have an entirely "fresh" reservation with no puta visits recorded. It won't help if you want multiple putas on the same night, but it will allow you to have a different puta every night.


Me and another bro drove past Conteiner on Sunday afternoon and he pointed it out as a cool spot so I had to search the Tijuana threads to see if anyone had written on it. Couldn't tell if it was open. I definitely plan on hitting it up at some point. I've had some maduras eyeball me at Pulgas, but I've had the best luck in Copeo.I've been to Conteiner multiple times. I prefer to it Copeo, mainly because more hot college age civies prefer it to Copeo. The ratio of hot chicas is noticeably higher than Copeo. Beers are a bit cheaper too. Pre-covid, a bucket of 12 domestic beers were $150 mx. The layout if prefer too. Copeo is not a bad place but Conteiner is hands down better in every way except for location.


LE Conteiner is crap right now. No dancing. No mingling. All you can do is sit at your chair and drink and eat the crappy food you have to buy because it can't be a bar only. Green Witch is better.

What age range are you in? I'm around 60. Not in horrible shape. But don't know about picking up a 20 something in Copeo. (although a group in Green Witch invited me to go to Conteiner with them, then one bitchy one with them started cock blocking because "he's like 40. ").I haven't been to that many bars during covid, but sitting and having to eat while drinking is the norm I believe. It's like that at Copeo. I'm not sure if I've been to Green Witch, I probably have, but in Plaza Zapato I just tend to walk into bars that have chicas without looking at the name on the sign. For those of you that haven't been there, it's a plaza near Plaza Rio full of small to medium size bars and clubs, maybe 30-35 of them. It's okay, but I prefer Conteiner.

And if a random group invites a gringo to go to another bar, a likely motive is that they expect you to pay for all the drinks and cover if applicable. I probably would have declined, unless one of the chicas showed obvious physical interest in me. I've had numerous experiences where 20 year old civies were genuinely smitten and enamored, and also times where I could just tell I was invited just to pay their cover charges and drinks. It's easy for me to tell now which makes the decision easy.

LuvMexicanas
12-15-20, 05:34
I like your idea but most places require noon checkout and then check in is 3 p and sometimes as late as 4 p. I may just revert back to Ticuan where I can bring in chicas galore, albeit one at a time.

Dogers69
12-15-20, 06:55
I went to Tijuana to eat, drink a bit. Nothing open in san Diego. I ended up spending a lot money, but that's ok, for 7 trips to Tijuana I took a lot money and didn't spend it. Covid aside, I 100% think they hotel set ups are more private and much better, not to mention the street girls double when bars are closed, a lot guys are in these places now due to not being able to hit up other countries and Mexico being only thing open. Revolucion street looked very empty, empties I've ever seen it, even got yelled at by a waiter on revolution street for using 2 separate 100 pesos for a bill that was 120 pesos. These Mexican waiters are grumpy it doesn't matter if its strip club or family restaurant.

Phordphan
12-15-20, 18:47
even got yelled at by a waiter on revolution street for using 2 separate 100 pesos for a bill that was 120 pesos. These Mexican waiters are grumpy it doesn't matter if its strip club or family restaurant.Ay, no mames, guey! <insert eye roll emoji here>

KC Questor
12-15-20, 21:08
even got yelled at by a waiter on revolution street for using 2 separate 100 pesos for a bill that was 120 pesos.I'll never understand how businesses can not have change for even small amounts of money.

BigButtDetecto
12-16-20, 18:11
Good for the Mexican economy.The value of people in Mexico is not the same as in US. People, especially old, die without even putting a foot into the hospital. ICU's have been full for a long time; if you are not a politician or a drug cartel capo, you will die in the street.

Covid is way underreported whether in term of morbidity, mortality or testing.

Remember: economies can always recover. Not dead people.

DramaFree11
12-16-20, 23:30
The value of people in Mexico is not the same as in US. People, especially old, die without even putting a foot into the hospital. ICU's have been full for a long time; if you are not a politician or a drug cartel capo, you will die in the street.

Covid is way underreported whether in term of morbidity, mortality or testing.

Remember: economies can always recover. Not dead people.Sorry I have to disagree with a lot of this. Yes one death is too many, but I don't think there's an air under reporting going on. I think it's the other way around. The virus is very serious, and we need to take it serious but we also need to get back to work, ASAP.

Rainman306
12-18-20, 08:12
You guys that live in Southern California or are frequent jetsetters to Tijuana are quite spoiled compared to some of the sad boys I know in the Midwest. You are experiencing hot women from across Latin America for relative low cost.

Some of these sad Midwest boys are stuck on jack shacks here. And by boys I'm really mean men generally 40's to 60's, all older than me. I believe many of these sad boys never have discovered St Louis or Detroit or even the odd club that was very heavy mileage or extras before they either shut down or straightened up.

I've been stuck in the upper Midwest for too long, but hopefully in Spring I will be back I Tijuana.

ScatManDoo
12-18-20, 13:17
Sorry I have to disagree with a lot of this. Yes one death is too many, but I don't think there's an air under reporting going on. I think it's the other way around. The virus is very serious, and we need to take it serious but we also need to get back to work, ASAP.If one death is too many, then logically efforts should be made to reduce and prevent them. Otherwise you're being disingenuous.

If opening back earlier (when the pandemic is spiking in its spread) will result in more infections (and more deaths) where and how do we strike a net beneficial balance?

If the spread is growing, wouldn't logic point to increasing social distancing and isolation, rather than change to less of it at this point?

ClamSlammer
12-18-20, 13:46
Got to Zona at around 9:30 pm. First stop was Jalos. Talent was sparse. There were a couple of 7's but the rest were prison tattoo'd train wrecks. Left after one beer. I don't know the deal with mongers complaining about $30 usd short term rooms. There are signs everywhere that say rooms are $14 usd for 30 minutes.

Next stop was Rizo. There were a decent amount of 7's available. There were hardly any mongers. The ratio was very favorable, by far the highest I'd ever seen in a puta bar. It must have been at least 8:1 puta / monger ratio. There were chicas everywhere, even lined up in chairs at the start of the main hallway. Yet there were plenty of empty tables because there was a severe shortage of mongers. Oh well, had two beer and headed for Hotel Coahuila.

Coahuila was interesting. As previously reported, they opened up a new club on the 3rd floor. It is appropriately named "The Club. " It is a rectangular room, about 3/4 the size of Adelita's main room. The ceiling is quite high, about 30 feet or so. There is a narrow elliptical stage in the center lined with about a dozen bar stools. The room is very black and dimly lit. It was a welcome sight, because honestly I like to see all, or at least a great deal, of the talent available from one perch. At The Club, you definitely have a view of all the talent currently on the floor. I saw one of twins along with fat Alaska. Her cafe business must not be doing so well in the playas. Although the new club was nice, the talent was the same old, worn down, fake T&A, aggressive sharky Adelita's putas. Wasn't interested in any AB hags so headed for Cascadas.

Cascadas was somewhat like Rizo, but to a lesser degree. Putas badly outnumbered mongers. There was seating readily available. When I was there last Thursday I left quickly because it was packed and no seats to be had. Last night was a whole different story. Not many mongers. Maybe it was because of the rain a couple hours earlier. Anyhow, talent was about as expected for a Thursday night.

Left and revisited Rizo and Coahuila. Rizo had cleared out dramatically. Still not many mongers but the chicas were reduced in number. Headed to Coahuila and it was just like it was prior in the evening. Then back to Cascadas. I was sitting near a heavily tatted younger monger who was ficha'ing two ugly putas. The uglier one had a really low, raspy voice that you would expect to hear on a tranny. They kept on pressuring him for more drinks. He relented and when the mesero brought the drinks, I saw him open his wallet. He had one $20 usd bill and that was it. He paid the $18 tab with the $20, which left his wallet completely devoid of any currency. A bit later, the chicas were pressuring him for more drinks, but this time there were 3. One heavily tatted flaquita came and joined her puta compatriots. He had no money left but refused to say so, instead pretending he was tired or whatever. Those chicas left immediately. They didn't waste any time at all. It was ruthless. They had been there a while because their table had remnants of many empty bottles and glasses along with a bottle of tequila in a bucket. I was surprised at how quickly the chicas left. And they didn't even have the decency to go off and scatter to a section of the floor where they wouldn't be seen by the monger that they had just abandoned. There was no goodbye thank you kiss or hug or anything. They literally walked 4 feet and sat at the ledge of the jacuzzi, a constant reminder to the monger that the putas preferred sitting by themselves on a jacuzzi ledge instead of sitting at a table with a monger who had just bought them many rounds, if there were no more $9 drinks being bought. It's like they immediately forgot about him as soon as he said no more drinks. Hope that monger learns his lesson and figures out that spending hundreds of dollars on fichas is a fool's task.

DramaFree11
12-18-20, 15:32
You guys that live in Southern California or are frequent jetsetters to Tijuana are quite spoiled compared to some of the sad boys I know in the Midwest. You are experiencing hot women from across Latin America for relative low cost.

Some of these sad Midwest boys are stuck on jack shacks here. And by boys I'm really mean men generally 40's to 60's, all older than me. I believe many of these sad boys never have discovered St Louis or Detroit or even the odd club that was very heavy mileage or extras before they either shut down or straightened up.

I've been stuck in the upper Midwest for too long, but hopefully in Spring I will be back I Tijuana.So true, awesome post. Some of these guys complain about dumbest thing. Tijuana / MTY and other destinations in Mexico are so much fun and amazing. There are only a few guys that actually complain, the rest realize how great they have it, minus there Governor.

Captain Solo
12-18-20, 19:15
Will head down at 10 AM, picking up a bro along the way. He wanted to treat us to lunch, anywhere we want, a very nice and cool guy. I am fortunate to have quite a few good friends, very cool and fun guys, to hang out with in Tijuana.

Will go to Mr. Pampas in downtown Tijuana for lunch, a very nice, clean, classy place with delicious AYCE Brazilian grilled meats and seafood served sizzling hot before heading to La Zona to party with the chicas all night. Mr. Pampas costs only $11 weekday and $15 weekend, way too cheap for this bro, so he doesn't have to spend too much for lunch on us. Beers are only $2; wines range from $15 to $100 a bottle.

Look at all that delicious meats and seafood served up at Mr. Pampas.

Captain Solo
12-18-20, 19:42
Rainman.

I feel sorry for the bros who freeze their dicks off in the Arctic states like Wisconsin and Minnesota when we live an dry and warm climate with sunshine year round, regularly go to Tijuana a few times a week, eating delicious spicy food, having fun partying with the bros all night, DFking, squeezing, groping, embracing pretty girls. We are having a lot more exciting and sexy fun every week than most people have in their entire lifetime, especially with a few bros I hang out with. I really appreciate the fun, supportive, giving, sharing, non-judgmental friendships with them.

I lived in the North East for decades with milder weather than the Mid West, but the long, cold, wet, dreary winters were still brutal. People cooped up indoors too long get cabin fever, become paranoid, angry, aggressive, abusive to one another.

One year a huge snow storm hit the East coast, the highways and field were all white under a couple feet of snow with zero visibility. About 2 dozen cars went off the highway and got stuck in the snow overnight, people froze to death. State troopers, snow plows and ambulances were busy all night but could not get to most accident scenes, could not even see cars buried under the snow along hundreds miles of highway and ditches.

I moved to the warm and sunny West Coast right after New Year that year, worked out my personal and professional life the best I could and lived happily ever after. I know a lot of people, born and raised on the East Coast, swear they would never move back to the snow belt.

Everyone should constantly assess his career, lifestyle, living location and happiness situations and make decisive moves. Don't waste too many years of your life in unhappy situations.

Captain Solo
12-18-20, 20:20
Tijuana bar girls are in deep troubles, having used to their expensive lifestyles while not having income for the last 9 month under CoVid shutdowns.

They may play cool but are under extreme pressure to put food on the tables for their kids and families, and can be ruthless with guys. They are using every minute of their working hours trying tom make income. Some will drink their fichas slowly, some will do it quickly, but the minute the drinks are sucked up they will get up and leave to hook other guys.

There are no friends in business and bar girls are the most ruthless.

Dickus Maximus
12-19-20, 01:50
Everyone should constantly assess his career, lifestyle, living location and happiness situations and make decisive moves. Don't waste too many years of your life in unhappy situations.Smartest thing I've heard you say. 1000% in agreement.

Lefeu
12-19-20, 03:33
Smartest thing I've heard you say. 1000% in agreement.Second that.

Captain Solo
12-19-20, 08:27
Dickus,

Thanks for your compliment.

I know a couple good examples of average guys who made the right moves for their careers and lifestyles and became very successful and happy with their lives.

One colleague left his secured management-level job, title, recognition with a big company, took a position outside of his areas of expertise with a struggling small company in San Diego. At the time his friends thought it was a risky wrong move, a step down. But the company became successful, a major player in high tech market, partly due to his contribution. His stock option keeps piling up, the vested portion is now a huge sum of money in this crazy bubble market. He's a simple man, likes his job and his employer, just quietly executes his job, no bullshit.

A few other guys were far better qualified than him for that job, but they were not always looking for opportunities like this guy. So he wins big and lives a very happy life in San Diego, but I have not seen him in La Zona. May be he's getting lots of love and good sex at home too.

I wished I had taken a job with Apple or Tesla. But the bay area is way too boring for me. It's sad to be stuck in dead end jobs in the freezing snow-belt states, freezing your butt off, shriveling your dick, no sex, no love, no fun, bad weather, bad food, bad neighbors, hostile, stupid and evil coworkers.

Everyone should constantly assess his career, lifestyle, living location and happiness situations and make decisive moves. Don't waste too many years of your life in unhappy situations.

ClamSlammer
12-19-20, 13:33
Got to Zona around 8 pm. First stop was The Club. Was slightly busier than Thursday but far from being jam packed. Saw the usual talent, which isn't a good thing. It's a shame because the best post Covid setup in the Zona is wasted featuring Adelita putas. Didn't see a single puta above a 6 except for a twin, I think it was Renata, who I'd rate 7.

Headed to Rizo next. The third floor has been renovated. The setup looks almost identical to the 2nd floor setup, until you get to the last door on the right. You step into that room and you'll see that it was expanded. Walls were knocked down to make room for more lounging space. A small stage with pole was added. Overall the space is over triple the size of the standard 2nd floor speakeasy rooms. The new section was quite crowded. Lots of mongers in the way while exploring the new spaces. Finally gave up and left for Cascadas.

Cascadas was packed with both mongers and putas. Saw Ashley de Sinaloa. She looked better than she has in a while. Lots of familiar faces. And lots of putas wearing masks, a much higher percentage than the other speakeasies. I wonder why. Anyhow, didn't see any new noteworthy new talent. It was so packed that we didn't stay long.

Next stop was Ibiza. They have a speakeasy setup on the 4th floor. It is a large space. Probably knocked down a few walls, the combined space was about the size of HK first floor. It wasn't an outwardly puta bar like environment. I didn't see scantily clad putas walking the floor hustling for customers. Neither did I see a row of putas waiting to be picked out by a monger. It just seemed like a normal bar. No seats were available so we left soon after scoping out the scene.

Went back to The Club and it was more of the same. Then ended the night at Cascadas. It wasn't as packed at 2 am like it was at 11. There is this one chica that I always see, but never pays any attention to me. She won't even look in my direction. Kinda strange. I can't figure out why. She's about 5'4" 110 lbs. Straight medium length black hair. Light skinned. No tatts which eliminates 95% of the putas in HK. Natural full "be" cups. Always wears a dress and never anything skimpy. Face kinda looks like Winnie Cooper minus the bangs. At HK she would hang around the area of the main bar and stage. I may just have to pry $10 out of my pocket to buy a ficha to see what her deal is.

Jackie888
12-19-20, 19:05
Got to Zona around 8 pm. First stop was The Club. Was slightly busier than Thursday but far from being jam packed. Saw the usual talent, which isn't a good thing. It's a shame because the best post Covid setup in the Zona is wasted featuring Adelita putas. Didn't see a single puta above a 6 except for a twin, I think it was Renata, who I'd rate 7.

Headed to Rizo next. The third floor has been renovated. The setup looks almost identical to the 2nd floor setup, until you get to the last door on the right. You step into that room and you'll see that it was expanded. Walls were knocked down to make room for more lounging space. A small stage with pole was added. Overall the space is over triple the size of the standard 2nd floor speakeasy rooms. The new section was quite crowded. Lots of mongers in the way while exploring the new spaces. Finally gave up and left for Cascadas.

Cascadas was packed with both mongers and putas. Saw Ashley de Sinaloa. She looked better than she has in a while. Lots of familiar faces. And lots of putas wearing masks, a much higher percentage than the other speakeasies. I wonder why. Anyhow, didn't see any new noteworthy new talent. It was so packed that we didn't stay long.

Next stop was Ibiza. They have a speakeasy setup on the 4th floor. It is a large space. Probably knocked down a few walls, the combined space was about the size of HK first floor. It wasn't an outwardly puta bar like environment. I didn't see scantily clad putas walking the floor hustling for customers. Neither did I see a row of putas waiting to be picked out by a monger. It just seemed like a normal bar. No seats were available so we left soon after scoping out the scene..People are more likely to appreciate the Covid if they personally know someone suffering the symptoms rather than just see it in the news. So I am guessing one or more of the chicas got hit hard by the Covid. Girls talk. And we are seeing more chicas taking the contagion seriously. Does Winnie Cooper have giant DD chi chis and can do the split when she dances on stage? It's been 2 years since I've seen her. Sweetest girl. Smart too.

Jackie888
12-19-20, 19:13
Dickus,

Thanks for your compliment.

I know a couple good examples of average guys who made the right moves for their careers and lifestyles and became very successful and happy with their lives.

One colleague left his secured management-level job, title, recognition with a big company, took a position outside of his areas of expertise with a struggling small company in San Diego. At the time his friends thought it was a risky wrong move, a step down. But the company became successful, a major player in high tech market, partly due to his contribution. His stock option keeps piling up, the vested portion is now a huge sum of money in this crazy bubble market. He's a simple man, likes his job and his employer, just quietly executes his job, no bullshit.

A few other guys were far better qualified than him for that job, but they were not always looking for opportunities like this guy. So he wins big and lives a very happy life in San Diego, but I have not seen him in La Zona. May be he's getting lots of love and good sex at home too.

I wished I had taken a job with Apple or Tesla. But the bay area is way too boring for me. It's sad to be stuck in dead end jobs in the freezing snow-belt states, freezing your butt off, shriveling your dick, no sex, no love, no fun, bad weather, bad food, bad neighbors, hostile, stupid and evil coworkers.

Everyone should constantly assess his career, lifestyle, living location and happiness situations and make decisive moves. Don't waste too many years of your life in unhappy situations.LOL. I took a huge 30% pay cut to get back to California after spending years jacking off during snowy winter months. Snowy winters stink for bachelors. For couples, they either make a ton of babies or get their divorce papers ready. To me, I didn't want to wait until I retire to enjoy my life. I saw too many guys die before they got to enjoy their retirement loot. A lot of guys want to hit midlife crisis and buy a sports car to justify all the shit they have to put up with. Me, I am blowing my sports car fund on chicas, food and drinks. I'm a simple guy with simple needs. Life is good.

BigButtDetecto
12-19-20, 23:08
So true, awesome post. Some of these guys complain about dumbest thing. Tijuana / MTY and other destinations in Mexico are so much fun and amazing. There are only a few guys that actually complain, the rest realize how great they have it, minus there Governor.US could be fun too. But the churchgoers will never let brothels to open. That's ok. We have enough mongers in Tijuana. The guys in the north can go hunting, fishing, go to baseball matches while we enjoy Tijuana.

BigButtDetecto
12-19-20, 23:13
If one death is too many, then logically efforts should be made to reduce and prevent them. Otherwise you're being disingenuous.

If opening back earlier (when the pandemic is spiking in its spread) will result in more infections (and more deaths) where and how do we strike a net beneficial balance?

If the spread is growing, wouldn't logic point to increasing social distancing and isolation, rather than change to less of it at this point?We can witness now how devastating covid is for healthcare. If you need emergency treatment forget about it. ER and ICU's are full. Health should be first. Economy second.

DramaFree11
12-20-20, 00:12
Tijuana bar girls are in deep troubles, having used to their expensive lifestyles while not having income for the last 9 month under CoVid shutdowns.

They may play cool but are under extreme pressure to put food on the tables for their kids and families, and can be ruthless with guys. They are using every minute of their working hours trying tom make income. Some will drink their fichas slowly, some will do it quickly, but the minute the drinks are sucked up they will get up and leave to hook other guys.

There are no friends in business and bar girls are the most ruthless.This goes for many more, Mexico and other parts of the world are in deep trouble both from the Virus and Financial Damage. Unfortunately this is just the beginning.

MmaufcFan
12-20-20, 01:01
Dickus,

Thanks for your compliment.

I know a couple good examples of average guys who made the right moves for their careers and lifestyles and became very successful and happy with their lives.

One colleague left his secured management-level job, title, recognition with a big company, took a position outside of his areas of expertise with a struggling small company in San Diego. At the time his friends thought it was a risky wrong move, a step down. But the company became successful, a major player in high tech market, partly due to his contribution. His stock option keeps piling up, the vested portion is now a huge sum of money in this crazy bubble market. He's a simple man, likes his job and his employer, just quietly executes his job, no bullshit.

A few other guys were far better qualified than him for that job, but they were not always looking for opportunities like this guy. So he wins big and lives a very happy life in San Diego, but I have not seen him in La Zona. May be he's getting lots of love and good sex at home too..And I am one of those dudes, work will let us know in the next few months we can move anywhere in the states (looking good) and I am bound for San Diego looking at property near the light rail each time I come. Mission Valley looks promising nice area, dispensary around the corner, weather perfect 1 HR light rail transfer at America's plaza $5 to get to the border. Bang zoom to the moon Alice! Sept 2022 my son graduates and a San Diego resident I will be. You will see me there every weekend! Nothing but good times to come.

ClamSlammer
12-20-20, 07:48
Does Winnie Cooper have giant DD chi chis and can do the split when she dances on stage? It's been 2 years since I've seen her. Sweetest girl. Smart too.Winnie has full "b" or small "c" cups. I don't remember is she dances on stage or not. But she dresses conservatively for a puta. Always in a dress, all natural with no tats. Doesn't really act like a puta either. Doesn't smile much. I have never seen her get taken up or bought a ficha. Honestly she wouldn't seem like much fun for the average monger.

Turgid
12-20-20, 15:28
LOL. I took a huge 30% pay cut to get back to California after spending years jacking off during snowy winter months. Snowy winters stink for bachelors. For couples, they either make a ton of babies or get their divorce papers ready. To me, I didn't want to wait until I retire to enjoy my life. I saw too many guys die before they got to enjoy their retirement loot. A lot of guys want to hit midlife crisis and buy a sports car to justify all the shit they have to put up with. Me, I am blowing my sports car fund on chicas, food and drinks. I'm a simple guy with simple needs. Life is good.I bought a sports car in 2003. Mongering gets me laid more than a sports car.

Artisttyp
12-20-20, 19:41
This goes for many more, Mexico and other parts of the world are in deep trouble both from the Virus and Financial Damage. Unfortunately this is just the beginning.The outcome could be incredible mongering options for those that survive. Even better than Post 9 11 which I took full advantage of. We don't know yet who gets to be lucky this time around though.

Wash your hands.

Captain Solo
12-20-20, 20:08
I bought a couple sports cars so I can drive fast and safe to La Zona. These guys were doing 95-100 MPH to and from La Zona.

A wingman parked his brand-new AMG C63 V12 in the lot across from J I be. The attendant was incredulous; must be a replica. On the return after many drinks, I was backing out of the spot and nicked the OEM alloy wheels on the curb. He did not care, as long as he was having good sexy times with the chicas.

Captain Solo
12-20-20, 20:19
MMA,

If you can swing relocation to SD you will be in hogs' heaven.

You can have access to 100 hot girls any night of the week. You don't need to waste time, money and good taste on old, fat, ugly US women.

DramaFree11
12-20-20, 20:30
The outcome could be incredible mongering options for those that survive. Even better than Post 9 11 which I took full advantage of. We don't know yet who gets to be lucky this time around though.

Wash your hands.Exactly, only the strong will survive. This is no joke.

Captain Solo
12-20-20, 20:32
Artiste,

In August HK's Cici texted me, ran out of money to feed her puppy and had to put him up for adoption. Lucky looks like a bro adopted the puppy and brought it to the US. A few weeks ago, she texted me again, had no work, no money, no food in the house. I was afraid would starve and had to send her some money the same night. A few bros also sent her money for relief. She was grateful for their help. I had a session with Cici yesterday. She had lost a lot of weight and shrunken down, not as healthy, strong and youthful like before.

The CoVid impacts world wide are not much different from famines in Africa. Lots of people in Mexico and other countries, especially in Central and South America, are having problems feeding their families.

LuvMexicanas
12-20-20, 23:32
The outcome could be incredible mongering options for those that survive. Even better than Post 9 11 which I took full advantage of. We don't know yet who gets to be lucky this time around though.

Wash your hands.This made me think of a line from an old rap song, "my dick is hard and my back is strong" and revising that to "my dick is hard and my bank account is strong."

Captain Solo
12-20-20, 23:39
So busy having fun I have not done shopping for holidays' presents. Will do a special run Tuesday afternoon for San Ysidro factory outlets sales.

This close to Christmas the stores will mark down their inventories very low. Cognacs, Whiskeys, Rums, Tequilas are 25 to 50% off market prices. Don Julio 70 was selling for $30 1 L. Chivas Regal 12 YO scotch $25 1 L. Cap Morgan rum $12 1.5 L. Jose Cuervo Especial $10.750 ML, smooth, slightly sweet with spicy fragrances and sweet notes stuck to the throat, a very good Tequila to sip on the rock. I had no hang over with this tequila.

You guys ought to head down and buy some perfumes and sexy lingeries for your sweeties then eat them out for the holidays.

StRobert
12-23-20, 08:52
So busy having fun I have not done shopping for holidays' presents. Will do a special run Tuesday afternoon for San Ysidro factory outlets sales.

This close to Christmas the stores will mark down their inventories very low. Cognacs, Whiskeys, Rums, Tequilas are 25 to 50% off market prices. Don Julio 70 was selling for $30 1 L. Chivas Regal 12 YO scotch $25 1 L. Cap Morgan rum $12 1.5 L. Jose Cuervo Especial $10.750 ML, smooth, slightly sweet with spicy fragrances and sweet notes stuck to the throat, a very good Tequila to sip on the rock. I had no hang over with this tequila.

You guys ought to head down and buy some perfumes and sexy lingeries for your sweeties then eat them out for the holidays.Captain, this Jose Cuervo Especial tequila for $ 10 may not be 100% Agave. Always buy tequila that says "100% de Agave" on the bottle because there is no headache. If the bottle does not say "100% de Agave" it means that it is a mixture of 51% Tequila with grain alcohol and caramel color and it gives a headache. Tequila 100% Agave is e. G. Cazadores, El Jimador, Corralejo about $ 20- $ 30 per bottle and of course many other types of Tequila much better and more expensive. Before Covid I always shopped at the Tijuana duty free shop (window open all night) right in front of the entrance to the US pedeast crossing to the trolley station. They have good prices, but only 1 Liter of alcohol can be taken to the US.

StRobert
12-23-20, 09:23
MMA,

If you can swing relocation to SD you will be in hogs' heaven.

You can have access to 100 hot girls any night of the week. You don't need to waste time, money and good taste on old, fat, ugly US women.I'm not a travel agent but Southern California is a good place to live and retire as well. Sun, sex, sand, beaches, beautiful chicas etc. On the San Diego and California side there are good beaches, California cuisine and legal weed. - Tijuana and Baja California Mexico side: legal prostitution 10 min. From the border! Beautiful chicas, Mexican or Baja-Med cuisine. But behind Tijuana there are beautiful places like Rosarito, Ensenada, Valle de Guadalupe, Puerto Penasco etc. I don't know everything well yet. Casinos are also Indian in California or Las Vegas. Vegetables and fruit in supermarket are cheap because they are all imported from Mexico. Generally good climate is not too cold or brutally hot. But still, a lot of people move out of California because they say it's too expensive, too liberal, too crazy etc. My complaint is that the water in the ocean is not warm like Waikiki and that's it.

Captain Solo
12-23-20, 12:35
Jose Cuervo Especial tequila, I like its slightly sweet taste, spicy fragrances and agave flavor. Had no headache or hangover, unlike other types of liquors.

Cazadore is bitter and too harsh for me. Don Julio 70 is too smooth and light. It does not have 100% Agave on the label.

This Jose Cuervo Especial tequila for $ 10 may not be 100% Agave. Always buy tequila that says "100% de Agave" on the bottle because there is no headache. If the bottle does not say "100% de Agave" it means that it is a mixture of 51% Tequila with grain alcohol and caramel color and it gives a headache.

Captain Solo
12-23-20, 12:47
StRobert.

If you have lived in the snow belt you would hate the depression caused by inactivity in the long, cold winter. You do have to get up in the middle of the night to shovel snow out of driveway and sidewalk before they freeze over. I hate to get up in the morning and spend half hour scraping ice and snow off car, run the engine, heat it up before you can sit on the frozen seat and freeze your ass off to go to work.

In Southern California' winter, the sun still shines brightly and the air warm. If you want to ski and play in snow, one hour drive up to the mountain and the whole mountain is covered in snow. Same night you can go down to the beach, sit near a fire, sip drinks and bullshit with your friends, or go off to Tijuana to drink, make out and have hot sex with your chicas.

You can live and have fun 365 days a year.

I'm not a travel agent but Southern California is a good place to live and retire as well. Sun, sex, sand, beaches,

Dogers69
12-23-20, 19:40
StRobert.

If you have lived in the snow belt you would hate the depression caused by inactivity in the long, cold winter. You do have to get up in the middle of the night to shovel snow out of driveway and sidewalk before they freeze over. I hate to get up in the morning and spend half hour scraping ice and snow off car, run the engine, heat it up before you can sit on the frozen seat and freeze your ass off to go to work.

In Southern California' winter, the sun still shines brightly and the air warm. If you want to ski and play in snow, one hour drive up to the mountain and the whole mountain is covered in snow. Same night you can go down to the beach, sit near a fire, sip drinks and bullshit with your friends, or go off to Tijuana to drink, make out and have hot sex with your chicas.

You can live and have fun 365 days a year.

I'm not a travel agent but Southern California is a good place to live and retire as well. Sun, sex, sand, beaches,I've been in San Diego half of the the last 5 years now. If you move here, you will miss weather. Its like living indoors here the weather is just so automatic. Everyday same thing. And there's no wind compared to the east coast. There's few clouds. I definitely miss rain when I'm in San Diego. The summer in San Diego, if you live here will have you missing the rain, smell of trees, shade, that you get on the east coast. And for people from east coast if you live in San Diego anyway you need to deal with elements of crime that are considered no big deal in California, things that would have 4 cop cars show up in Florida. But liberals love the criminals here.

BigButtDetecto
12-24-20, 22:52
I've been in San Diego half of the the last 5 years now. If you move here, you will miss weather. Its like living indoors here the weather is just so automatic. Everyday same thing. And there's no wind compared to the east coast. There's few clouds. I definitely miss rain when I'm in San Diego. The summer in San Diego, if you live here will have you missing the rain, smell of trees, shade, that you get on the east coast. And for people from east coast if you live in San Diego anyway you need to deal with elements of crime that are considered no big deal in California, things that would have 4 cop cars show up in Florida. But liberals love the criminals here.I live in SAN DIEGO and I would not leave this area even for any other promised land.

I lived in south Florida for several years and I can tell you it looks like a 3rd world country. I feel safer in Mexico. Pay rate is dismal and healthcare is sub standard. The hot air is barely breathable. The only thing I miss is the Cuban music.

I am glad to be back in south California for the quality of life.

Dcrist0527
12-25-20, 01:28
I live in SAN DIEGO and I would not leave this area even for any other promised land.

I lived in south Florida for several years and I can tell you it looks like a 3rd world country. I feel safer in Mexico. Pay rate is dismal and healthcare is sub standard. The hot air is barely breathable. The only thing I miss is the Cuban music.

I am glad to be back in south California for the quality of life.I grew up in South Florida. First 24 years of my life there. And I'll never go back. I've passed up some lucrative job offers but man, I just hate that place.

Dogers, man. I'm not saying this to be a jerk. But man, you're complaining about 75 and sunny, dude. SD has the best climate in the country. I don't think many would argue that. You got to start looking at the glass half full. I haven't been able to make SD work long term for me. Yet. But I'm very jealous of those that live there.

Dogers69
12-25-20, 04:16
Maybe the quietest I've seen in zona other then poring rain evenings. Still woman to bang but I go more for the atmosphere. Revolucion bars were closed otherwise maybe I don't even go. Not many woman in chocagos hotel, or Gloria, or 2 in Korea, hk had maybe 35. If you need sex it will still do tomorrow even I guess but I'd guess new years will be same. Not alor street girls but some cute ones. HK VIP card won't work for free drink which I expected but found annoying. Hk should lower beer price 4 is a lot for Tijuana.

ScatManDoo
12-25-20, 05:59
I've been in San Diego half of the the last 5 years now. If you move here, you will miss weather. Its like living indoors here the weather is just so automatic. Everyday same thing. And there's no wind compared to the east coast. There's few clouds. I definitely miss rain when I'm in San Diego. The summer in San Diego, if you live here will have you missing the rain, smell of trees, shade, that you get on the east coast..My mother grew up in Chicago. My father grew up in Brockton Massachusetts (a surburb of Boston).

My mom's family moved to Los Angeles in 1944 during World War II. Driving to LA on black market gas rations.

My uncle (my father's brother) served in the Air Force in LA during WW2 and convinced his Mom and all his siblings to move to LA just a month or two after WW2 ended.

As kids we grew up in SoCal never seeing snow. Always felt like we missed out on having any snow-related fun.

But if you ever asked my parents or my uncles if they missed the snow. They always gave a loud and emphatic no!

DramaFree11
12-25-20, 06:22
I live in SAN DIEGO and I would not leave this area even for any other promised land.

I lived in south Florida for several years and I can tell you it looks like a 3rd world country. I feel safer in Mexico. Pay rate is dismal and healthcare is sub standard. The hot air is barely breathable. The only thing I miss is the Cuban music.

I am glad to be back in south California for the quality of life.Yep, Florida sucks. Florida reminds me of Houston minus the high paying jobs. Both place sucks, but there is a lot of money and work in Houston.

Dogers69
12-25-20, 06:36
2 weeks ago a lot people were talking about the bus to the border at night. In the day its easy and 50 well at least when ped west by the outlets was open. Tonight uber wanted 8 dollars from Hong Kong. I walked to bus area by McDonald's across the street of course and basically in front of that 711 or oxxo whatever it is, the bus doesn't seem to come. Instead a taxi van, who wanted 15 pesos. The thing is, nobody is going to the border at night. So you won't know when to get off. I missed it by 1 stop and had to walk and if my phone map didn't work I would not have made it to the border on foot. Something to keep in mind. Maybe finding taxi to take 5 bucks is best. I would prefer HK limo but they aren't operating.

Turgid
12-25-20, 13:24
I live in SAN DIEGO and I would not leave this area even for any other promised land.

I lived in south Florida for several years and I can tell you it looks like a 3rd world country. I feel safer in Mexico. Pay rate is dismal and healthcare is sub standard. The hot air is barely breathable. The only thing I miss is the Cuban music.

I am glad to be back in south California for the quality of life.I've been to both South Florida and San Diego and like both. The standard all depends on which part you live. There are good and bad areas in both. Also for fun you have easy access from San Diego to Mexico and in South Florida you have easy access to the Dominican Republic.

Captain Solo
12-25-20, 19:22
Florida and Houston are hot, very humid, ridden with mosquitos and ants. I sweated so much clothes were sticking to my skin, could not peel them off. Clothes became very uncomfortable.

In the middle of summer, the sun shines bright in Florida but if you go in the shade, you would be quickly attacked by thousands mosquitoes. They would stick on your skin, sucking blood, blackening your arms and legs. Damn. A guy got a good job offer and moved his family to central Florida, only to move back to California within 6 months due to bugs.

I cannot stand the swamps in Florida with giant toothy ugly alligators, huge, long, wiggling pythons and whatever else deadly creatures living in the canals, some damn ugly water lizards. I was driving in a ritzy neighborhood near Naples. A huge alligator was waking down the street leisurely like it owned the street. I stopped the car on the side of HWY 90, watched an alligator slowly and quietly swim with its mouth wide open towards a white pelican resting in the swamp. A sneaky attack with one quick swoop, it swallowed the bird whole. Damn. I would never put my feet down any swamp in Florida.

Life has to be worse in the swamp land of Louisiana and Mississippi.

Jinxx
12-25-20, 20:11
2 weeks ago a lot people were talking about the bus to the border at night. In the day its easy and 50 well at least when ped west by the outlets was open. Tonight uber wanted 8 dollars from Hong Kong. I walked to bus area by McDonald's across the street of course and basically in front of that 711 or oxxo whatever it is, the bus doesn't seem to come. Instead a taxi van, who wanted 15 pesos. The thing is, nobody is going to the border at night. So you won't know when to get off. I missed it by 1 stop and had to walk and if my phone map didn't work I would not have made it to the border on foot. Something to keep in mind. Maybe finding taxi to take 5 bucks is best. I would prefer HK limo but they aren't operating.Just off the top of my head, if you want to get off at a certain stop and not miss your stop but it's dark and you're not sure just simply tell the driver exactly where you need to go and he'll let you know when you reach your intended stop. A little bit of communication can go a long way.

And Merry Christmas to all you mongers and horndogs out there!!

BigButtDetecto
12-25-20, 22:59
I've been to both South Florida and San Diego and like both. The standard all depends on which part you live. There are good and bad areas in both. Also for fun you have easy access from San Diego to Mexico and in South Florida you have easy access to the Dominican Republic.Going to the DR is not as easy as crossing the border from san diego to Tijuana and the flights cost. Not talking about the hassle at the airport. The ocean is warmer in Florida though.

BigButtDetecto
12-25-20, 23:03
I grew up in South Florida. First 24 years of my life there. And I'll never go back. I've passed up some lucrative job offers but man, I just hate that place.

Dogers, man. I'm not saying this to be a jerk. But man, you're complaining about 75 and sunny, dude. SD has the best climate in the country. I don't think many would argue that. You got to start looking at the glass half full. I haven't been able to make SD work long term for me. Yet. But I'm very jealous of those that live there.Best climate in the world!

Captain Solo
12-26-20, 01:03
My new wingmen were all impressed how quickly I can drive across the border at San Ysidro to Tijuana.

Even on busy Friday afternoon, the wait is usually only 5 minutes to cross Mexico's El Chaparral check point, nobody ever checks documents or cars, then another 5 minutes to drive through La Zona Norte to Hong Kong's valet parking. Total 10 minutes and I would be sitting in HK sipping a couple beers, ogling hot chicas for potential sessions in bed. Sure beat the hassles of going to airports with luggage, waiting in line to clear TSA check point, huffing a flight for a couple hours, collect luggage then wait to clear through DR's Imm and Customs.

A scared-cat new wingman found crossing so quick, easy and safe, he came back the next week by himself, hanging out in La Zona Norte most of the day and night, spent everything on bar and street girls to the last dollar hehe.

Jinxx
12-26-20, 01:20
I've been in San Diego half of the the last 5 years now. If you move here, you will miss weather. Its like living indoors here the weather is just so automatic. Everyday same thing. And there's no wind compared to the east coast. There's few clouds. I definitely miss rain when I'm in San Diego. The summer in San Diego, if you live here will have you missing the rain, smell of trees, shade, that you get on the east coast. And for people from east coast if you live in San Diego anyway you need to deal with elements of crime that are considered no big deal in California, things that would have 4 cop cars show up in Florida. But liberals love the criminals here.You have a very interesting point of view. Someone actually complaining about San Diego weather of all things? And also complaining of CRIME in San Diego? San Diego, California? Seriously? My own experience has been the complete opposite. I consider San Diego to have gorgeous awesome weather. And as a person who has been to real true ghettos and rough neighborhoods in other cities, I feel 100% safe in any area of San Diego. San Diego is like disney land compared to other high crime cities. Complaining about crime in San Diego of all places? I'm flabbergasted by that.

Captain Solo
12-26-20, 01:27
Police patrol cars in South Florida, Miami, Ft Lauderdale ect are old, big, clunky, worn out sedans of the 90's. They look funny like a bunch of LA's low riders. I don't remember seeing any police car in Orlando, Tampa and in towns along the West Coast.

Yet Florida is well known for lots of crimes, high density of hardened criminals and violent drug gangs, not to mention a high percentage of mental drugs addicts in the population. Watch Al Pacino in "Scar Face" and you will have a good idea.

I have no confidence in any police department that cannot afford decent patrol cars hehe.

Hargow20
12-26-20, 04:25
Taxi Van
I have been taking purple and red taxi van by 4th & Ninos Hero's. But I have been unable to find how to take the white & yellow taxi vans to the border. ? I asked by 3rd & Madero st. But they directed me to 2nd st. I just wish there was current map of taxi vans in Tijuana.

Uber.
i was also noticing last night that Uber prices have doubled or tripled recently I was looking at the Uber app and fare was $6.59. Earlier this it was only about $2. Uber prices is now roughly the same price as taking Taxi.

Dogers69
12-26-20, 05:19
Taxi Van
I have been taking purple and red taxi van by 4th & Ninos Hero's. But I have been unable to find how to take the white & yellow taxi vans to the border. ? I asked by 3rd & Madero st. But they directed me to 2nd st. I just wish there was current map of taxi vans in Tijuana.

Uber.
i was also noticing last night that Uber prices have doubled or tripled recently I was looking at the Uber app and fare was $6.59. Earlier this it was only about $2. Uber prices is now roughly the same price as taking Taxi.Uber prices in Mexico have started fluctuating to 3 x 4 x the price. So Christmas eve no ubers were working I guess so price is high for me. But it could simply be 5 pm to 9 pm on any day. Or going home Fri. Sat night at midnight. I found that taxi bus at 9 pm, it had stopped right in front of that oxxo or 711 across the street from McDonald's. 15 pesos, and you need to know when to get off as it doesn't pull up to the border. So there's some walking. HK being closed causes extra $$ drain from losing the $3 tip limo option, to no free drink with VIP card.

Artisttyp
12-26-20, 05:40
Taxi Van
I have been taking purple and red taxi van by 4th & Ninos Hero's. But I have been unable to find how to take the white & yellow taxi vans to the border. ? I asked by 3rd & Madero st. But they directed me to 2nd st. I just wish there was current map of taxi vans in Tijuana.

Uber.
i was also noticing last night that Uber prices have doubled or tripled recently I was looking at the Uber app and fare was $6.59. Earlier this it was only about $2. Uber prices is now roughly the same price as taking Taxi.You can catch a ruta to the border on Constiucion between Calle 4 and 5. You will hear someone shouting " Canyon ". Go up to him and say " Linea".

Lets you off at the white fence for Ped East.

Calusa
12-26-20, 07:10
I drove down to San Ysidro at 1:30 PM. I parked on the street near KFC and walked to Ped East crossing. I have FMM and I walked in on the Mexican lane and cruised on in. Once I passed the turnstiles, I kept on walking towards the pedestrian bridge. As I was crossing the bridge over the Ready Lanes, I was shocked to see no cars in line. It was a beautiful day with temperatures around 70 F and I walked all the way to ZN.

I walked past the Arch up Calle Primera and down Constitution. I got to the alley and I sat down on the bench in front of Hotel Ibiza. It was about 2 PM and I noticed it was a sausage fest. About half of the normal amount of paraditas were out. I said Hi to the ones I know and got hugs and kisses on the cheek. I sat on the bench for a while to see if there was anything or anyone that I might want to do. I already had someone in mind, but in ZN, I go with the flow and take what comes my way.

I come to Tijuana quite a bit and I usually stick to SG. BG are better quality, but they are more expensive and most of the time I just want to bust a nut and leave. I don't feel like the difference in quality is equal to the difference in price. IMHO the SG is a better value and many have nicer asses than BG do.

Two days before I went to La Carretta for a beer. On that day I ended up buying 4 fichas for two BG at the same time. One of BG was all over me and I wanted to fuck her bad. But I didn't bring enough pesos with me, plus I had already busted with a SG named Violeta. There was no way I was going to fuck Monica on that day, but I asked her if she was working on Christmas day and she said yes. I told her I would come back then.

Today was Christmas and I didn't see anything interesting on the street, and after a half hour or so, I went upstairs to La Carretta. I wasn't sure if Monica would be there and I didn't feel like drinking as it was only about 2:30 in the afternoon. I told the guy at the door that I wanted to go upstairs and look before I bought any beers.

At La Carretta, you go up to the third floor to see the lineup. When you get to the third floor, there are usually some girls in the hallway. There are rooms on both sides of the hallway with tables and chairs in the rooms. In one room there is a DJ playing hella loud Banda. I don't mind Banda because I know the girls love it. The last visit and this visit, I go to the room with the DJ and I sit in front of the speaker.

I looked around the room and I see Monica is dancing on some guy in the next room. I can't see the guy because there is a wall and I sit down. Now I can't see her either. The mesero comes and asks me if I want to stay (meaning if you stay, you pay). I told him yes and I told him to bring me one beer. They usually try to sell you 2 for $4, but I wasn't going to stay that long.

After he brings me my beer, another mesero brings over a thick Latina with big tits. We talk for a few minutes and I tell her directly that I am not interested. Two seconds later the mesero is standing over us asking me to buy her a ficha. She asks me for a dollar and I only have a fin. I ask the mesero to break the fin and I give her a dollar. She kisses me on the cheek and leaves.

I swear not fifteen seconds later the mesero brings another chica. This one is a flaquita wearing a cubreboca (mask). She hikes up her dress and starts grinding her ass on my dick. She's got a great ass and I'm like. Hell yeah. I buy her a ficha so I can get a lap dance and grab her ass. But when she takes off her mask I see how old she is and she isn't very pretty. Not only that, she doesn't have big tits.

This chica is grinding on me and I'm feeling her ass when all of a sudden Monica comes into the room and she sits next to the DJ. Up until now she hadn't seen me. As soon as I see her I waive her over. The chica that is grinding on me moves out of the way and Monica jumps on me and starts DFK like crazy. Now I've already played with Monica's tits (huge) and her ass (small) and we both already know we want to fuck each other's brains out. I tell her lets go the room NOW. Fuck! Then I remember I paid 500 pesos for the ficha and I have to wait for my change. Instead of making a getaway, I have to sit there with Monica and the girl I bought a ficha for.

As soon as I get my change, we leave out of there. The girl I bought a ficha for is pissed. She follows us down to the second floor where the rooms are. (Technically an arriba is an abajo, hahaha). She starts complaining to the manager that she was with me first and the other one invaded on her territory. I explained that I had been there 2 days before and I was waiting for Monica until she finished with the other guy. The manager was cool. I think he thought it was funny that the two girls were fighting over me.

After the drama at the front desk, we finally make it to the room which wasn't too bad. It had two night tables, a dresser, comfortable bed with clean bedding and a shower with hot water, plus they give you a towel.

We start making out like crazy and I pull off her dress, unsnap her bra and pull off her panties, but I leave on the thigh high boots she's wearing. I jump out of my clothes and dive right into her muff. I eating her out like crazy and she's tasting so good. Then I moved up and started sucking on those gorgeous melons. Now my dick is close to her pussy, and I reach down and put it in. She realizes I don't have a condom but she doesn't stop me.

I alternate between fucking her and eating her, changing positions, eating her some more, her blowing me and finally me cumming inside her. She looked real good with those thigh high boots and nothing else. Her pussy was clean shaven and it was shaped nice, not a roastie. Her tits seemed semi-enhanced, like they were already big, but she had them lifted. I really enjoyed her body and it felt like making love. We shared real passion in that room and I had a memorable Christmas experience. I even took a hot shower after. Later, I got her phone number and she told me she wants to meet me at a hotel of my choosing. I'm totally down to see her again for another round of BBFS+CIP.

I've had a few gems in La Carretta before. I've even had one or two in La Gloria. The girls faces aren't the most beautiful, but the ones I have been with have had banging bodies. I've also found that they are a lot friendlier than HK girls. HK girls have got beautiful faces, but a most of the ones I have been with were not very friendly. Friendly BG at HK seems to be the exception and not the rule. In case anyone is wondering how much it cost, I paid dos mil. Despite what everyone says about all the girls going home for the holidays, in my experience there are Christmas Presents to be found on Christmas Day if you know where to look.

Calusa.