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Baxter Slade
09-09-21, 03:36
I am thinking of coming down a spending 2 or 3 nights in Tijuana. I really only want to do the border crossing on e so I am thinking of staying right in the belly of the beast.

Any recommendations between Rizo de Oro or Cascadas. I am assuming women in the Zona Norte area will come back to either one.

Any other ideas?

Thanks.Rooms at Rizzo are not that bad. The only real advantage for Cascadas. A good chunk of alley SG's will go to Cascadas but will be hesitant to make the trek to Rizzo.

SeaBeeJoe
09-09-21, 04:33
I am thinking of coming down a spending 2 or 3 nights in Tijuana. I really only want to do the border crossing on e so I am thinking of staying right in the belly of the beast.

Any recommendations between Rizo de Oro or Cascadas. I am assuming women in the Zona Norte area will come back to either one.

Any other ideas?

Thanks.I liked Rizo myself I never stayed at Casacadas.

Travv
09-09-21, 05:40
If you want tranquility and to sleep peacefully, then Rizo is better. If you want close access to party action and can handle chicas yelling Talachero! In the halls and stomping feet at all hours, then Cascadas. Different hotels with different vibes. Most guys who go to Zona Norte are there to party and don't mind the noise at Cascadas. If you do mind noise or need sleep, then Rizo.


I liked Rizo myself I never stayed at Casacadas.

Gregyyr
09-09-21, 07:08
I liked Rizo myself I never stayed at Casacadas.Rizo was quieter than Casacadas IMO when I stayed there. Then again I had a room in Cascadas near the stairs where the noise just echoed up and down the stairwell.

G.

BrotherMouzone
09-09-21, 17:21
I am thinking of coming down a spending 2 or 3 nights in Tijuana. I really only want to do the border crossing on e so I am thinking of staying right in the belly of the beast.

Any recommendations between Rizo de Oro or Cascadas. I am assuming women in the Zona Norte area will come back to either one.

Any other ideas?

Thanks.Cascadas is slightly more expensive, though is attached to a higher quality club in HK (vs. Tropical). Rizo is the quieter hotel, though I'm the type of person who can sleep through anything when I'm tired so the noise has never been an issue (and is actually not bad at Cascadas for most rooms). I've always stayed at Cascadas and am more than satisfied there. If you plan on coming back in the future would consider maybe staying one night at Cascadas and one night at Rizo and seeing which one you prefer so you can be better prepared for your next visit.

Gregyyr
09-09-21, 19:48
Cascadas is slightly more expensive, though is attached to a higher quality club in HK (vs. Tropical). Rizo is the quieter hotel, though I'm the type of person who can sleep through anything when I'm tired so the noise has never been an issue (and is actually not bad at Cascadas for most rooms). I've always stayed at Cascadas and am more than satisfied there. If you plan on coming back in the future would consider maybe staying one night at Cascadas and one night at Rizo and seeing which one you prefer so you can be better prepared for your next visit.Also I forgot to mention. At Rizo ask for a room with the red lights. I didn't do this and didn't realize some of the rooms have this. The red lights just make the experience better I feel.

G.

Gregyyr
09-09-21, 19:56
It's been a few weeks so thinking of heading down either Friday afternoon or Saturday. If anyone up for connecting up for a beer or bite let me know.

G.

KC Questor
09-10-21, 03:31
Any recommendations between Rizo de Oro or Cascadas. I am assuming women in the Zona Norte area will come back to either one.I didn't see anyone mention this, so I will. Only girls from the affiliated clubs (Hong Kong, Las Chavelas, and Tropical Bar) will go to those hotels. Adelita Bar girls only go to Coahuila, Chicago Club girls only go to Jalos, etc.

You can sometimes get a girl to go to another hotel before or after their shift, and some might go on their lunch / dinner break. But it won't be a usual thing and you should expect to have to look harder or pay more for a girl willing to do that.

Rambo1969
09-10-21, 07:00
I am thinking of coming down a spending 2 or 3 nights in Tijuana. I really only want to do the border crossing on e so I am thinking of staying right in the belly of the beast.

Any recommendations between Rizo de Oro or Cascadas. I am assuming women in the Zona Norte area will come back to either one..I do the same. I spend 3 nights at Cascadas.

All street girls standing by the hotel and across the hotel in the alley will go to Cascadas.

Beyond that street gals willing to come to Cascadas is hit or miss. I found about 50% are willing to go to Cascadas. Last time one gal had me pay 100 pesos to her hotel's manager in order for her to walk to my hotel. So, with an extra fee that 50% becomes 75%.

And HK club gals only go to Cascadas.

HardDrive
09-10-21, 17:51
Thanks everyone for the great advice. I will probably choose Rizo since it seems a little less popular and would hopefully be a little quieter later in the evening.

I looked at the rooms online and they looked pretty decent.

Thanks again.

Smalldan
09-11-21, 05:09
Hey guys,

Does anyone knows a good place to have a oil change for my car that it is not that far from HK?

ZeroDc4213
09-11-21, 05:37
How do the really cracked out ugly street girls make any money? There are dozens if not hundreds of street girls around zona Norte most of the time. I don't understand who is willing to pay a dime for those girls and I wonder what they're doing there. Can someone enlighten me?

Captain Solo
09-11-21, 06:24
SmallDan.

There are a few shops near HK, but the best deal is at Refraccioaries? On O'Campo and Calle 4, a big chain of garage and parts stores.

If you bring your own oil and filter, they charge only 100 pesos or $5 for labor, and can get on it as you wait. The shop also sells oil, filters, cat parts cheap.

While the car is on the lift, they can check brakes, bearing, struts, coolant, leaks ect and tighten all bolts on undercarriage and suspension for free.

Artisttyp
09-11-21, 08:12
How do the really cracked out ugly street girls make any money? There are dozens if not hundreds of street girls around zona Norte most of the time. I don't understand who is willing to pay a dime for those girls and I wonder what they're doing there. Can someone enlighten me?Your trash is someone else's treasure.

Rainman306
09-11-21, 22:19
Made a trip over Labor Day Weekend. I prefer the weekdays. Bigger hotel discounts, less crowded, & there is always a few gems anytime, but I'm limited vacation because of a job change.

I will eventually write more detailed reports in the different sections. Here is a brief recap.

HK. Has lots of girls & some hot ones even at 11 am on a Sunday morning. So many have enhancements though & are business like. This was once again a trip without an Arriba from an HK chica.

Tropical. Meet a chica on her first week there. Very sensual & playful. The guys were really rough with the chicks they this night. My $100 an hour offer turned into an all nighter as she didn't want to deal with anyone else.

Chicago. A few sultry chicas, but couldn't get an overnight room, so no arribas. My shorts still have lipstick stains from the chicas trying to suck me through my shorts.

Street girls - 4 in total, about 400-500 pesos seems to be going rate. Recommend Erica & Gabby.

Food. The HK tack stand is good, but they seem to raise their price a few pesos a taco every trip.

Gregyyr
09-11-21, 23:16
A few observations from the quick overnight trip Friday night.

Cascadas hotel can be a bit of a zoo checking in on Friday or Saturday late afternoon. There is a little "bull pen" to the side of the lobby desk that they direct you to until you can get your key from the front desk. It was fun BS'ing with the other guys who were also waiting to check in and there were guys from Boston, San Fran, Chicago.

The front desk staff talked me into the VIP card which I wanted to try at some point anyway.

After buying the HK VIP membership they put a white band around my wrist which I don't really like the bands. And they tell everyone that your VIP which I guess doesn't really matter but just don't like them. And what if your staying there a couple days you have this band in the shower etc. Kind of a pain in the ass.

With the VIP membership it was Very cool to not have to pay cover charge at HK later in the night when they start charging. Friday night I was sitting with a girl in Chavellas and a mesero notice my white band and interrupted us saying since you have the band you can go up to the VIP room. I thought it was free so we walk upstairs and then the mesero say's it's only $90 for bucket of drinks and the VIP room. Kind of ticked me off with the sales bullshit so I just said no and walked the girl back to the 1's floor.

For the $90 Cascadas hotel room it was discounted to $72 for VIP. It was not too loud as it was in the middle of the 5th floor. The red mood lights were not working which kind of pissed me off as I love them. Plus the safe didn't work. I could have asked for another room but not a huge issue so next time they said to make a note that you want a room with red lights etc. One employee said rooms either have red or blue lights but I have never seen the blue light rooms.

By 10 pm the number of girls in Tropical and Adalitas was STAGFERING. Could not believe how many were in these other bars.

At Adalitas I found Ainoa from Venezuela. Really love this girls size / proportions.

While I had a room at Cascadas. Ainoa was working at Adalitas so I had to get a room at their hotel. It was only $15 so not too painful. Ainoa was really really nice. Little kissing as well which I just love. Pisses me off I forgot if I could take a picture of her.

I ran into newbie I met at check in from Chicago and was nice to hang for a bit. He had only been there 2 hours and already popped his cork and his Boston buddy was upstairs popping his.

There is something special about that first time in HK. It is just a "unreal" atmosphere.

Verizon service didn't work for the first hour for some reason (which has happened in the past). I put $5 on my 2nd phone with telcel sim chip and it worked very well. Kind of sucks if you only bring one phone to Mexico and it has Verizon. You can't count on it at first when you need it.

Also. The voice quality calling back to the US sucked on the Verizon phone vs my TelCel phone sounded much better.

The second girl I fucked. LOL. (I just had to put it that way as the first 50 years of my life I could count on one hand the number of girls I had fucked. Some long term relationships but still) I was in Chavalas (seems all the girls I find these days are in Chavellas waiting to get into HK). Ketzal from Puerto Vallarta. I loved this girls personality and for $100 she said 45 minutes was OK. DANG. She sold me!! We had time for a nice shower first. I had previously popped my cork with Ainoa from Venezuela so really didn't want to go up arriba if "Junior" couldn't have a good time. But Ketzal was so playful I just knew we would have a good time anyway. And we did. She gave me her number and hope to connect up again as she will be in Tijuana for a while.

Saturday morning the Viagra was still in my system but my money was getting lower so I wandered the back alley for a cute Peradita. Found Anna with a slim figure. She said $30 with nude but then up at the room she said another $10 for nude. I said fine. But no tip for her. I couldn't tell on the street but she had two kids and the see-section doctor should have been fired. Her breasts were nice with Big nipples which I loved. She was a bit controlling, would not let me finger her, no kissing. I have had some good fucks in the past from the alley but she reminded me of why paying the extra money at HK is often worth it. I enjoyed fucking her a bit with a couple positions but Junior was wore out a bit so with help from Anna she jacked me off to pop the corkey.

I just wanted to see HK in the morning so just before check out about 9:30 am I wandered through the club. It's amazing there are girls in there that early! Guys look like they are all hung over. Did find a girl named Army from Tecati (see picture attached) with beautiful tiny body. It's not a great picture of her as she was moving. But the kind of body that would make CAPSolo drive down to Tijuana in a minute haha. Junior was wore out and Army would not give me her phone number. Arg. She did agree to meet me next Saturday at 1 pm in Chavellas for arriba. Hope she doesn't flake but would think she wants $100 as well.

Tijuana Red Light is just a crazy crazy place. In the US it's one thing to go out to the bars or a party, meetup with someone and take them to bed. But the thought of fucking 3 girls along with table dances and other private room stuff is just amazing. I can't afford to do that type of thing very often but it's one for the memory books. 2nd observation. If I went to Disneyland every month I don't think it would be so much fun but still amazes me each time I make it to Zona Norte the adventures are still wonderful and I feel very fortunate to live so close to the border although I will probably need to work to 65 before retire due to the cost of the 'WG's.".

G.

Captain Solo
09-12-21, 00:05
Rainman is lucky with this deal. Wonder he still has his wallet and blings. Hehe.

Joking. That's a very good deal.

BrockStar
09-12-21, 01:40
How do the really cracked out ugly street girls make any money? There are dozens if not hundreds of street girls around zona Norte most of the time. I don't understand who is willing to pay a dime for those girls and I wonder what they're doing there. Can someone enlighten me?You say that, but look at how many men in the states are married to hogs. Not only are banging a fatty, but they wake up to that same fatty everyday. Some guys really do like women that most would consider homely. My Canadian buddy for example would always end up doing LT with these gaunt looking meth-heads in Cambodia and he'd get them for like 10-20 USD. Always baffled me, because a lot of them were rough, but he was as pleased as a pig in slop.

Gregyyr
09-12-21, 02:41
How do the really cracked out ugly street girls make any money? There are dozens if not hundreds of street girls around zona Norte most of the time. I don't understand who is willing to pay a dime for those girls and I wonder what they're doing there. Can someone enlighten me?Reminds me of Howard Stern's "Butter Face" competition. He would have these girls that were not so pretty but had beautiful bodies compete for winning a little cash. It was great!

G.

Fmojo
09-12-21, 03:51
A few observations from the quick overnight trip Friday night...Sounds like a great trip. Thanks for the detailed report!

Daytonamonger
09-12-21, 08:42
How do the really cracked out ugly street girls make any money? There are dozens if not hundreds of street girls around zona Norte most of the time. I don't understand who is willing to pay a dime for those girls and I wonder what they're doing there. Can someone enlighten me?Beauty is in the eye of the beerholder!

Everyman "slums" it sometimes. Variety afterall is the spice of life!

Turgid
09-12-21, 15:06
You say that, but look at how many men in the states are married to hogs. Not only are banging a fatty, but they wake up to that same fatty everyday. Some guys really do like women that most would consider homely. My Canadian buddy for example would always end up doing LT with these gaunt looking meth-heads in Cambodia and he'd get them for like 10-20 USD. Always baffled me, because a lot of them were rough, but he was as pleased as a pig in slop.I knew a guy at university who said he was not interested in a woman if when he slow danced with her his hands could touch each other at her back. And I saw it too.

Gregyyr
09-12-21, 16:07
I knew a guy at university who said he was not interested in a woman if when he slow danced with her his hands could touch each other at her back. And I saw it too.Interesting perspective. So basically if she had a really big back / top body. He was happy?

Down in Louisiana / Texas many like their women with a little more "meat" on their bones.

I remember the movie "Ray" about Ray Charles and how it would feel a girls wrists to determine what size she was. He was probably looking for a smaller wrist I am thinking but interesting methods of determining sizes us humans like.

https://youtu.be/tTVFP-9AdMk

G.

Jackie888
09-12-21, 17:21
I knew a guy at university who said he was not interested in a woman if when he slow danced with her his hands could touch each other at her back. And I saw it too.Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. We ogle at the HK girls. But if you ask Mexican men, a lot think that the girls in HK are too skinny lacking in tits and ass.

Captain Solo
09-12-21, 21:12
Greggy,

You know my taste. Army looks like tight, young, slutty girls who can get my blood pumping and my dick rising. Hope you will share her tel in the next few weeks before she goes home.

I was in HK Sat night with a couple bros from out of state. There were lots of hot girls after 8. Calia was dancing briefly on bar Kowloon. I wanted to grab her but was waiting for a bro to show and did not want to leave the table. Big mistake. Calia is one of the hottest and funniest spinner and seems to have big sponsors. She disappeared and never came back. I walked all over the club looking for her later but could not find her anywhere. She was probably taken to the hotel for long hot, kinky sessions and to smoke that Meth. She's pretty, nice, sweet, pleasant, definitely worth $100 for a session.

A stripper named Eileen was very pretty, 20 YO, tall, beautiful from head to toe, proportioned body with sexy, feminine shapes and curves, perfect, light, dry skin, no tats, beautiful all 0 natural boobs and butt, long, strong legs. She looked perfect for my taste. She put on one of the sexiest and most erotic strip show, really knows how to dance with feminine and sexy moves. The bro said her strip routine alone was worth hanging out at the stage all night. Right after she got off the stage, a guy was waiting and scooped her up, took her over to the Barn. Man, I regretted missing out on her. But she returned after 10 minutes standing near the main bar, so the guy bought her a drink but did not take her up. A deal was not struck. I came over talking to her. She was pretty cold, even a little upset, said curtly $100. I was smiling, claiming poverty as usual and offered her 1,500 pesos, but she did not respond, just stood there fuming, so I retreated. The last guy probably lowballed her and pissed her off.

I found of Mylie from Jalisco in the Barn, new to the club, just standing by herself in the dark, tall, slim, pretty, beautiful like Eileen, a perfect girl to take to bed. We were talking. She said $100 and I offered her 1,500 pesos. She was smiling sweetly, said OK, but wait until later and gave me her tel. I texted her later but forgot to add Mexico's country code, so the text did not reach her. I was disappointed she did not respond but It was my stupid fault after so many beers, not hers. Anyway I have her tel and this sweet girls is worth driving down to Tijuana for hehe.

Life is fun, sexy and exciting chasing hot, sweet, young, beautiful girls. Unlike rude, haughty, hardened women in US bars and club, Mexican club girls are always nice, fun, sexy companies, never rude rejections or biitchy attitudes. We are really treated with regards and respect like VIPs here, worth spending time and your 401 K money every week.

Watching the girls, most were just hanging around silent in the club, not bought drinks, not taken to the hotel, but they stick to $100 firm. Sasha used to be the hottest and sweetest girl in HK, a HK stara few years back. Every guy wanted to pop her. But recently after CoVid she has gained some weight, her tummy looks bigger than her droopy boobs hehe. She still looks nice, clean, tall, attractive, about 5'10 on heels, but her age is starting to show, sitting at bar Kowloon all night just about every time I was in the club, but was never bought drinks or taken to hotel. No guys would sit with her. Saturday night I sat next to her at the bar, gave her a propina into her boobs, kissed her face and told her I loved her. She did not talk back and showed no expressions, like she's mad at me. I cannot help it if she cannot compete against the new, young, hot girls. At this rate her life and her meth addiction are pretty much doomed.

I just wanted to see HK in the morning so just before check out about 9:30 am I wandered through the club. It's amazing there are girls in there that early! Guys look like they are all hung over. Did find a girl named Army from Tecati (see picture attached) with beautiful tiny body. It's not a great picture of her as she was moving. But the kind of body that would make CAPSolo drive down to Tijuana in a minute haha. Junior was wore out and Army would not give me her phone number. Arg. She did agree to meet me next Saturday at 1 pm in Chavellas for arriba. Hope she doesn't flake but would think she wants $100 as well.

Gregyyr
09-13-21, 01:37
Greggy,

You know my taste. Army looks like tight, young, slutty girls who can get my blood pumping and my dick rising. Hope you will share her tel in the next few weeks before she goes home.

I was in HK Sat night with a couple bros from out of state. There were lots of hot girls after 8. Calia was dancing briefly on bar Kowloon. I wanted to grab her but was waiting for a bro to show and did not want to leave the table. Big mistake. Calia is one of the hottest and funniest spinner and seems to have big sponsors. She disappeared and never came back. I walked all over the club looking for her later but could not find her anywhere. She was probably taken to the hotel for long hot, kinky sessions and to smoke that Meth. She's pretty, nice, sweet, pleasant, definitely worth $100 for a session.

A stripper named Eileen was very pretty, 20 YO, tall, beautiful from head to toe, proportioned body with sexy, feminine shapes and curves, perfect, light, dry skin, no tats, beautiful all 0 natural boobs and butt, long, strong legs. She looked perfect for my taste. She put on one of the sexiest and most erotic strip show, really knows how to dance with feminine and sexy moves. The bro said her strip routine alone was worth hanging out at the stage all night. Right after she got off the stage, a guy was waiting and scooped her up, took her over to the Barn. Man, I regretted missing out on her. But she returned after 10 minutes standing near the main bar, so the guy bought her a drink but did not take her up. A deal was not struck. I came over talking to her. She was pretty cold, even a little upset, said curtly $100. I was smiling, claiming poverty as usual and offered her 1,500 pesos, but she did not respond, just stood there fuming, so I retreated. The last guy probably lowballed her and pissed her off.

I found of Mylie from Jalisco in the Barn, new to the club, just standing by herself in the dark, tall, slim, pretty, beautiful like Eileen, a perfect girl to take to bed. We were talking. She said $100 and I offered her 1,500 pesos. She was smiling sweetly, said OK, but wait until later and gave me her tel. I texted her later but forgot to add Mexico's country code, so the text did not reach her. I was disappointed she did not respond but It was my stupid fault after so many beers, not hers. Anyway I have her tel and this sweet girls is worth driving down to Tijuana for hehe.

Life is fun, sexy and exciting chasing hot, sweet, young, beautiful girls. Unlike rude, haughty, hardened women in US bars and club, Mexican club girls are always nice, fun, sexy companies, never rude rejections or biitchy attitudes. We are really treated with regards and respect like VIPs here, worth spending time and your 401 K money every week.Army only works a couple days a week she say but will see if I can get her number to pass one (assuming arriba is good next week) and she doesn't flake on me. I have 0% confidence in what hookers say about commitments to get together.

With SOOO many girls in HK, Adalitas, Chavellas, Tropical is is sad to see the older or out of shape girls knowing the chances of them making any money is 0. It's got to be a little tough for them having to stand next to and compete with the 9's and 10's in there prime.

I do donate a few bucks for a little groping on some of these girls which is a win win. I ain't looking to take them arriba but a squeeze or two or three!!

What you say about the bars is true but not just chasing girls but the atmosphere. I can't go into a bar in San Diego where there are a bunch of guys that will be as friendly. Who you can actually converse with. Joke around a bit. It's like going to a football game where your all rooting for the same team. There is a comradery in Zona Norte with the guys that is very unique. It was like that a bit in Thailand as well. So much just be a brothel thing. Brings out the best in guys bonding.

What kind of Spanish name is "Army" . That's a bit unique huh?

G.

SeaBeeJoe
09-13-21, 05:08
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. We ogle at the HK girls. But if you ask Mexican men, a lot think that the girls in HK are too skinny lacking in tits and ass.No the average Mexican man doesn't have money to waste on pussy in HK.

Captain Solo
09-13-21, 06:49
You are right there is a special camaradie, almost a conspiracy, among guys in putas bars, like a bunch of horny little school boys sneaking looks up a pretty teacher's skirt, hehe.

Some local Mexican guys go to bars just to relax, drinking by themselves, ogling but not necessary popping girls, A few young guys spend a lot of money on drinks and fichas. Don't know what business they are in, but they don't fit the profile of street dealers. Just be nice and fun with them and enjoy the people in the club.

One night I was sitting all night at the bar next to El Chapo's middle son, Olivio De Guzman. He fixated on the strip stage while a line of HK managers walked past him, shaking his hand, bowing their heads. He just shook hands, not even looking at them or saying a word. I suspected he was am important cartel guy, but looked young in mid 20's, nice, clean, cool. I scanned the club looking for his bodyguards but did not find any.

Captain Solo
09-13-21, 07:27
Uber is no longer cheap in Tijuana. A ride from Mr. Pampas back to HK at 10 PM costed me $10.50, used to be less than $5. Don't know what's going on.

Monday Labor day 2 PM I had to go from Refracc garage at O'Campo and Calle 4 to HK. Maps shows 0. 8 mile and 6 minutes. UBERX showed $6.91 with a 15 minutes wait. I hate that waiting shit, so I flagged down a Taxi Libre, told him Hong Kong and showed him a 50-peso note plus a $1 note, total about $3.50. He immediately nodded his head. We got a quick, no hassle rise to La Zona, no cooking our asses in the Mexican sun waiting.

When I used to walk across the border, I would hold out 3 $ notes and walk down the taxi line waiting near the McDonalds rotary. A few cabbies would scoff but I would quickly get rides to HK for $3, often give them propinas in heavy traffic. Yes, I am cheap. I also want to be alert and on the defensive in all transactions, big or small, use all leverages to get the best deals, at least not get ripped off. If you don't hone your skills for small deals, you will get scammed in big deals.

BrotherMouzone
09-13-21, 19:01
Uber is no longer cheap in Tijuana. A ride from Mr. Pampas back to HK at 10 PM costed me $10.50, used to be less than $5. Don't know what's going on.

Monday Labor day 2 PM I had to go from Refracc garage at O'Campo and Calle 4 to HK. Maps shows 0. 8 mile and 6 minutes. UBERX showed $6.91 with a 15 minutes wait. I hate that waiting shit, so I flagged down a Taxi Libre, told him Hong Kong and showed him a 50-peso note plus a $1 note, total about $3.50. He immediately nodded his head. We got a quick, no hassle rise to La Zona, no cooking our asses in the Mexican sun waiting.

When I used to walk across the border, I would hold out 3 $ notes and walk down the taxi line waiting near the McDonalds rotary. A few cabbies would scoff but I would quickly get rides to HK for $3, often give them propinas in heavy traffic. Yes, I am cheap. I also want to be alert and on the defensive in all transactions, big or small, use all leverages to get the best deals, at least not get ripped off. If you don't hone your skills for small deals, you will get scammed in big deals.Uber rates can vary a bit based on time of day and supply / demand. We're obviously off-peak this time of day (11 am on the West Coast), but I just a few minutes ago checked the Uber rate from Mr. Pampas to HK and it was $3. 50 USD. So maybe you'd just hit a peak period when a lot of people were requesting Uber rides at the time. I suspect the rates you got weren't typical rates. Especially with the second rate you quoted. It was Labor Day in the USA So maybe that higher rate was attributable to a marked increase of people from the USA Off from work that day who were in Tijuana hailing Uber rides.

ScatManDoo
09-13-21, 19:58
Uber rates can vary a bit based on time of day and supply / demand. We're obviously off-peak this time of day (11 am on the West Coast), but I just a few minutes ago checked the Uber rate from Mr. Pampas to HK and it was $3. 50 USD. So maybe you'd just hit a peak period when a lot of people were requesting Uber rides at the time. I suspect the rates you got weren't typical rates. Uber tries to discourage problem customers. And they have the data base to effectively do it.

Member #4730
09-13-21, 22:27
One night I was sitting all night at the bar next to El Chapo's middle son, Olivio De Guzman. He fixated on the strip stage while a line of HK managers walked past him, shaking his hand, bowing their heads. He just shook hands, not even looking at them or saying a word. I suspected he was am important cartel guy, but looked young in mid 20's, nice, clean, cool. I scanned the club looking for his bodyguards but did not find any.I am sure even retards know not to mess with a top cartel member. I had a friend involved in distribution with the triads and spent time with a felony, but never snitched. People mysteriously go missing when you snitch.

Gregyyr
09-14-21, 02:24
Got a trip to Guadalajara later in the year with a friend flying from Tijuana via Volaris. I have the Covid shots and such but curious if anyone has any specific experience flying domestic around Mexico if you have to get Covid test before you fly out of Tijuana etc.

I have flown around the USA and there are no requirements like that.

Just curious if anyone has recent experience.

I googled a bunch of stuff and it all seems to be related to if your traveling from the US to Mexico. Not if your starting in Mexico and flying domestic via cross border express.

G.

WombatEd2
09-14-21, 02:26
Uber is no longer cheap in Tijuana. A ride from Mr. Pampas back to HK at 10 PM costed me $10.50, used to be less than $5. Don't know what's going on.I heard a very interesting discussion of Uber's business model recently. Allegedly, there is no real efficiency to Uber that is unavailable to local taxi companies. The only advantage they have is (was?) price, and the only way they could continue the low prices was to subsidize using venture capital.

And since venture capitalists expect, at some point, to receive a return on their investment, Uber's business model is completely unsustainable.

I haven't tried to fact-check any of this, but it makes sense. And if it's accurate, Uber is going to be around only until the venture capital runs out.

Member #4730
09-14-21, 03:06
I heard a very interesting discussion of Uber's business model recently. Allegedly, there is no real efficiency to Uber that is unavailable to local taxi companies. The only advantage they have is (was?) price, and the only way they could continue the low prices was to subsidize using venture capital.

And since venture capitalists expect, at some point, to receive a return on their investment, Uber's business model is completely unsustainable.

I haven't tried to fact-check any of this, but it makes sense. And if it's accurate, Uber is going to be around only until the venture capital runs out.Yeah the surge pricing is where some drivers just keep passing up the cheaper fares and wait around until surge pricing is in effect. Happens all the time in Vegas especially around conventions or dance festivals. I bought a car in Vegas and drove back to SoCal and the Uber driver said she just waits until surge pricing is in effect and hops in to take advantage. I think they get like a 60% cut from what we pay. Hard to imagine Uber can fuck up a good thing and not pay their drivers more since the GPS technology is basically free from people's smart phones and the app and support would be the only overhead, unless venture capitalists are milking it for all its worth. I'm sure a competitor will step in and pay drivers more to keep costs down.

Gregyyr
09-14-21, 06:43
I had a buddy that got a ticket to the Las Vegas convention for porn stars and he said it was goood! What we need is a Mongering convention! Hookers from all over he world converge and each country represented etc. Workshops on how to do this or that etc. Guest speakers that are "experts" in their field / expertise. Not porn stars but hookers!. Sex workers etc.

G.

Sol12
09-14-21, 08:01
Got a trip to Guadalajara later in the year with a friend flying from Tijuana via Volaris. I have the Covid shots and such but curious if anyone has any specific experience flying domestic around Mexico if you have to get Covid test before you fly out of Tijuana etc.

I have flown around the USA and there are no requirements like that.

Just curious if anyone has recent experience.

I googled a bunch of stuff and it all seems to be related to if your traveling from the US to Mexico. Not if your starting in Mexico and flying domestic via cross border express.

G.I did a lot of traveling in Mexico during the lockdown. Always flew out of Tijuana and they have no requirements on COVID testing to fly. It is the same as if you fly domestically in the US. The only thing they have made you do is fill out a health questionnaire before they let you go thru security.

https://www.vuelaseguro.com/login

Turgid
09-14-21, 14:53
I am sure even retards know not to mess with a top cartel member. I had a friend involved in distribution with the triads and spent time with a felony, but never snitched. People mysteriously go missing when you snitch.I had a boyhood friend who decided, in his 30's, that he wanted 'easy' money. His employment allowed him an ability to facilitate certain transactions. At some point he decided that he wanted out of the business. First warning was an injury to himself. He complied then decided he wanted out again. Second warning was the death of a family member. Repeated as above then finally, his torture and death.

Captain Solo
09-14-21, 18:42
It happened a few years ago. I sat on a stool at Kowloon bar next to a nice, clean, sweet-looking young guy, not knowing who he was. He was wearing jean, polo shirt and a tan wind breaker, no blings, sitting passively, not moving like a statue. Not drinking, not smoking, his eyes fixed at the strip stage.

The bar was crowded but no girls or meseros would come by hassling him or me for drinks and tips which was highly unusual. Then a parade of HK managers walked by shaking his hand, bowing their heads, including the woman who takes care of the girls' make up room on third floor. He shook their hands, not looking at them or saying anything. I suspected he must be top cartel guy but he looked so nice and young in mid 20's. I scanned the club looking for his bodyguards but did not find anyone unusual. Looked like he was there by himself.

When Mexican marinas arrested him somewhere in Jalisco and AMLO ordered him released, I saw the pictures in the press and found out the guy was Ovidio de Guzman. HK's security and intelligence network was fast and effective. He had enough confidence I'm HK to sit there all night by himself. Within minutes, all HK workers, managers and girls knew a hot shot was in the house and gave him room to enjoy himself. Then managers came down to show him respect and pledge loyalty. Damn sinister to me. Nobody should command that much fear over anybody else, including your biitchy and potentially violent wives with their long, sharp kitchen knives and their hungry attorneys.

Rambo1969
09-15-21, 08:04
I can't go into a bar in San Diego where there are a bunch of guys that will be as friendly. Who you can actually converse with. Joke around a bit. It's like going to a football game where your all rooting for the same team. There is a comradery in Zona Norte with the guys that is very unique. It was like that a bit in Thailand as well. So much just be a brothel thing. Brings out the best in guys bonding..I agree 100%.

We tend to drop our guard when chatting with guys in the club because just being there means there a lot in common between us and a 'shared secret'.

Also, there is factor that we are often more open with guys we think we may not see elsewhere in life.

And we are not competing with each other (fighting for the same gal, etc.) and no one cares about who you are in your professional life. It levels the playing field. We are all equal there.

Definitely it is easier to bond with other guys in the club and Cascadas hotel too. I have had good conversations in the hallway with people I met in the elevator.

Captain Solo
09-15-21, 13:52
Wombat,

UBER has made use of the internet, I phones apps, GPS, map apps and gained extremely profitable advantages over cab companies in big cities, small towns, rural areas.

First of all, UBER does not have to put up big capitals to buy the cars; drivers use their own and don't have to pay for the ridiculously expensive medallions to the cities (hundreds $K in big cities) to operate. UBER treats drivers as contractors, does not pay minimum wages, health insurance, vacation or sick leave to drivers. Comparing to traditional taxi companies, UBER's business model has frightening efficiency, very capital outlays, cheap and easy access to huge demands and low operating costs. UBER and LYFT have potentials to decimate taxi companies and rake in extreme profit.

As usual the venture capitalist assholes would put up capital for start up companies to develop business then take profit by public stock offerings or private acquisitions. UBER has been racking up losses and burning though investors' capital for years. But starting last 2 quarters, UBER beats analysts' estimates, raking in 11 billion revenue with about 4 billion or 29% net profit a year, a staggering profit percentage.

UBER has only $1 billion cash on hand, came entirely from the big profit surprise last quarter. Not sure how they turn aro0 und to tat big profit in a quarter. May be they cooked their books. They may quickly burn through $1 be cash in a couple months if business or profit slow down. They can sell more stock to raise capital but the stock market is betting UBER will crash with its precarious capital reserve. Stock price has declined to 1/3 of its height after the IPO.

With UBER's low costs and extremely high profit margin, its prices should be lower than taxis but its actually higher, almost doubled. It pissed me off. I will strike deals with taxi drivers in Tijuana just to screw UBRER into the ground hehe.

Dickus Maximus
09-15-21, 18:44
I heard a very interesting discussion of Uber's business model recently. Allegedly, there is no real efficiency to Uber that is unavailable to local taxi companies. The only advantage they have is (was?) price, and the only way they could continue the low prices was to subsidize using venture capital.

And since venture capitalists expect, at some point, to receive a return on their investment, Uber's business model is completely unsustainable.

I haven't tried to fact-check any of this, but it makes sense. And if it's accurate, Uber is going to be around only until the venture capital runs out.Don't underestimate the investment in software to make that whole system run. Little details like how airport pickups and other high volume locations are arranged differently in each city. The software has to be specifically designed for this. There are systems for taxis, but nothing as ubiquitous. You show up in a city and you know how to call an Uber. The ability to accept the next ride while you're transporting another also increases the utilization of the driver thus spreading his income over more rides.

Implying1
09-15-21, 22:48
I am in Tijuana for the next few days if any mongers want to meet up; chill or party. I met Solo and Jinxx my first time here: very different but both stand-up guys who made my introduction to Tijuana very pleasant.

Went through the Pedestrian Crossing at about 10:00 PM on Tuesday with just a US Passport. My passport was scanned and no one said a word to me the entire walk through the security area.

Spent the night at Hotel Leyva, which seems to be a complete garbage heap of a hotel. $35 per night for a decent amount of cockroaches, barely-usable Wifi only in one hallway on the ground floor, no air conditioning, and a loud / constantly-running water pipe through my room. When I first entered the room there were 3 medium-sized roaches on the bed / headboard, 2 in the drawer, and maybe 5 or 6 babies scampering around the floor / bathroom. I was exhausted, so I slept without arguing with the office. I put my belongings on top of the dresser with the hope that the roaches would have a harder time reaching them. In the morning I had 1 roach in each shoe, 3 in my laptop, and 1 in my toiletry bag. Just very nasty. The shower was good with plenty of strong, hot water which is about the only positive thing I can say.

Am now in Hotel Diaz for 440 Pesos / night, and yet it is superior in every aspect that I care about. Fast Wifi in the room, no roaches that I've seen yet, air conditioned, a clean bed, and a nice window view.

As for the girls, I went with an Hotel Ibiza girl who called herself Michelle. Maybe 5'7 with long black hair and a slim hourglass figure. Sexy eyes with lots eye makeup which made her face almost appear Asian. Wearing a cute black hat with the two pompoms on top, like a black bear. She kept it on for the act. My performance with her was so short-lived that I cannot say much about her quality. But she was playful and talkative (only Spanish) enough that I would recommend her. I wish I researched some Spanish jokes. Demanded 250 pesos minimum for two positions sin ropa.

Tijuana is feeling beautiful; a different world from New Year's 2021. Happy holidays tomorrow.

WombatEd2
09-16-21, 03:09
So Uber has recently become profitable. And their prices have risen above those charged by taxis. I don't think that's sustainable.

Meanwhile, Uber's software platform is forcing taxi companies to do likewise. (Check out Grab, in Asia.) So I think American taxis are all that far behind.

I don't claim to know how this one ends, but I'm not buying stock in Uber these days.

Hargow20
09-16-21, 04:01
Uber is still reasonable in Tijuana. Uber has doubled the prices of fares in the US however.


So Uber has recently become profitable. And their prices have risen above those charged by taxis. I don't think that's sustainable.

Meanwhile, Uber's software platform is forcing taxi companies to do likewise. (Check out Grab, in Asia.) So I think American taxis are all that far behind.

I don't claim to know how this one ends, but I'm not buying stock in Uber these days.

Gregyyr
09-16-21, 04:16
I am in Tijuana for the next few days if any mongers want to meet up; chill or party. I met Solo and Jinxx my first time here: very different but both stand-up guys who made my introduction to Tijuana very pleasant.

Went through the Pedestrian Crossing at about 10:00 PM on Tuesday with just a US Passport. My passport was scanned and no one said a word to me the entire walk through the security area.

Spent the night at Hotel Leyva, which seems to be a complete garbage heap of a hotel. $35 per night for a decent amount of cockroaches, barely-usable Wifi only in one hallway on the ground floor, no air conditioning, and a loud / constantly-running water pipe through my room. When I first entered the room there were 3 medium-sized roaches on the bed / headboard, 2 in the drawer, and maybe 5 or 6 babies scampering around the floor / bathroom. I was exhausted, so I slept without arguing with the office. I put my belongings on top of the dresser with the hope that the roaches would have a harder time reaching them. In the morning I had 1 roach in each shoe, 3 in my laptop, and 1 in my toiletry bag. Just very nasty. The shower was good with plenty of strong, hot water which is about the only positive thing I can say.

Am now in Hotel Diaz for 440 Pesos / night, and yet it is superior in every aspect that I care about. Fast Wifi in the room, no roaches that I've seen yet, air conditioned, a clean bed, and a nice window view..Great statement "Tijuana is feeling beautiful". It's irony is thick. It's not the prettiest city in Mexico. Not the safest. Not many things but Zona Norte is very special in many ways and creates great quotes like that. I will be heading down Saturday early afternoon but your probably gone by then or really broke. Have a great time and sure there are some better places to stay down there with out breaking the bank.

G.

LuvMexicanas
09-16-21, 08:07
Uber is still reasonable in Tijuana. Uber has doubled the prices of fares in the US however.Yep. Was in Tijuana two weeks ago and made multiple trips from Centro to Hippodromo and each leg was 70-90 pesos. It would have cost 12-15 dollars all day in the States for similar time and distance.

Captain Solo
09-16-21, 19:53
Implying,

Glad to see you back in Tijuana for some tender love and hot sex with the pretty chicas.

Nothing creeps me out more than roaches and bugs in the room. Damn. Leyva disgusts me, off the list for any future business. You should have walked out of the room and demanded money back, cursed the stupid guy sitting at reception desk and walk to another hotel. I may have to pack a can of Roach and Ant spray in my travel kit to set up a defensive perimeter around the beds in South and Central America hotels. Damn disgusting sleeping with bugs and roaches.

Sorry to hear about your world-record performance hehe. Try Ultra Lab's Sildenafil. 25 MG quickly pumped up my dick so hard I had a huge hardon but could not pop, pumping 2 girls hard and fast, one BB, half hour each. Looks like it desensitized my nerves and prevented popping. It may help guys with hyper sensitivity delay popping.

Hope you have a fun, sexy time in Tijuana.

Member #4730
09-17-21, 01:32
Implying,

Glad to see you back in Tijuana for some tender love and hot sex with the pretty chicas.

Nothing creeps me out more than roaches and bugs in the room. Damn. Leyva disgusts me, off the list for any future business. You should have walked out of the room and demanded money back, cursed the stupid guy sitting at reception desk and walk to another hotel. I may have to pack a can of Roach and Ant spray in my travel kit to set up a defensive perimeter around the beds in South and Central America hotels. Damn disgusting sleeping with bugs and roaches.

Sorry to hear about your world-record performance hehe. Try Ultra Lab's Sildenafil. 25 MG quickly pumped up my dick so hard I had a huge hardon but could not pop, pumping 2 girls hard and fast, one BB, half hour each. Looks like it desensitized my nerves and prevented popping. It may help guys with hyper sensitivity delay popping.

Hope you have a fun, sexy time in Tijuana.Oh come on CapN, you know you enjoy a few insects and scorpions on a stick like they sell from the food carts in China or Thailand. I never tired, but locals seemed to enjoy eating the bugs.

Gregyyr
09-17-21, 06:34
I did a lot of traveling in Mexico during the lockdown. Always flew out of Tijuana and they have no requirements on COVID testing to fly. It is the same as if you fly domestically in the US. The only thing they have made you do is fill out a health questionnaire before they let you go thru security.

https://www.vuelaseguro.com/loginThanks for the info. Wasn't aware of the site. It's not a mongering trip per say but I hope to have a bit of time on my own so I was checking out the Guadalajara forum to see what action is down there and if there is anything around the historic district.

G.

TjBrazil
09-17-21, 07:13
I saw this video on you tube from this dating coach about how once you go down the escort hooker route it's almost impossible to go back to normal girls. It's a real good video I thought you guys would like watching, but there is a mention in the video about these famous identical twin sisters in Brazil that were escorts. He talks about his friend and other guys flying from around the world to sleep with these identical twins. Did I miss this. I don't remember twins at Help or on the escort site. Anyone care to comment and know anything about these twins and did you hook up with them. Thanks.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ONtl6xjdk3s

Captain Solo
09-17-21, 07:17
Unlike you I could never eat the bugs sold in China and Cambodia. Yuk!

Cannot sleep with bugs and roaches in the room. They give me the creep.

But I sure can eat hot girls and sleep with them hehe.

Sol12
09-17-21, 16:13
Thanks for the info. Wasn't aware of the site. It's not a mongering trip per say but I hope to have a bit of time on my own so I was checking out the Guadalajara forum to see what action is down there and if there is anything around the historic district.

G.Well I haven't spent a ton of time downtown looking for women. During the day it's nice to walk around and see all the sites. I'm not a massage parlor guy so not sure what's available in that area if any. At night it's pretty dead since all the tourists and shops mostly close. They have one strip club that I went to Scandolous and I wasn't impressed. Had 1 drink and left. Even for a non mongering trip I would recommend looking to stay in a better area if the city. In the area around hotel RIU they have hotels that are very affordable and you can walk around at all hours with h no problem. I just walked back from my he strip club to my hotel at 5 am.

BTW if I you are flying out of Tijuana when you return if you are taking a Uber from the airport they will ask you to walk down by the flight tower to be picked up. With construction going on they don't like getting stuck in the traffic and it may have something to do with them not being airport taxis. Most Americans just use the CBP bridge but I didn't know your plans. One other one hung I almost forgot. I wouldn't pay the FFM at the airport. No one looks for it so it seems useless to me.

If you have any questions about GDL just let me know. Just put it in the GDL thread and I'll see it.

Captain Solo
09-17-21, 23:20
Elizabeth and her twin sister have been working in HK last few months. She's about 5'5, very skinny with stick thin legs, lots of acne and skin lesions, her dark hair bundled up on top. She used to work in the alley in front of hotel El Porton, looking very skanky in street lights with her rail thin body and bad skin, but with make up and under HK's artsy lighting, she looked pretty good. Her sister looks a lot healthier. They usually hang out near the front stair case, but Elizabeth would walk around briskly hunting down guys. They hang out all night, rarely get picked up for drinks or bed.

Another pair of Twin works on, off in HK, big, tall girls with smooth, light skin. Their faces look half Asian, broad and round, like Chinese Hans or Korean. Unfortunately both have gained weight. They are so huge may be approaching 180-200 Lbs. I used to tease the Korean wingmen about this pair of alleged Korean twin and they would go ape shit wanting to meet them hehe.

There are other twin sisters in HK.

Gregyyr
09-18-21, 07:55
Well I haven't spent a ton of time downtown looking for women. During the day it's nice to walk around and see all the sites. I'm not a massage parlor guy so not sure what's available in that area if any. At night it's pretty dead since all the tourists and shops mostly close. They have one strip club that I went to Scandolous and I wasn't impressed. Had 1 drink and left. Even for a non mongering trip I would recommend looking to stay in a better area if the city. In the area around hotel RIU they have hotels that are very affordable and you can walk around at all hours with h no problem. I just walked back from my he strip club to my hotel at 5 am.

BTW if I you are flying out of Tijuana when you return if you are taking a Uber from the airport they will ask you to walk down by the flight tower to be picked up. With construction going on they don't like getting stuck in the traffic and it may have something to do with them not being airport taxis. Most Americans just use the CBP bridge but I didn't know your plans. One other one hung I almost forgot. I wouldn't pay the FFM at the airport. No one looks for it so it seems useless to me.

If you have any questions about GDL just let me know. Just put it in the GDL thread and I'll see it.Thanks for the Uber and GDL tips! Staying at a place in the historic center and the rates are really cheap for a nice room / area it looks like. I also am not much of a massage type of guy but if it's just a front for prostitution I am all for it. Were a bit spoiled with Zona Norte in Tijuana.

http://www.booking.com/Share-mF3Ojs

Been to Lake Chapala?

G.

Turgid
09-18-21, 14:22
I saw this video on you tube from this dating coach about how once you go down the escort hooker route it's almost impossible to go back to normal girls. It's a real good video I thought you guys would like watching, but there is a mention in the video about these famous identical twin sisters in Brazil that were escorts. He talks about his friend and other guys flying from around the world to sleep with these identical twins. Did I miss this. I don't remember twins at Help or on the escort site. Anyone care to comment and know anything about these twins and did you hook up with them. Thanks.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ONtl6xjdk3sMy brother introduced me to the world of p4p in the early 1970's. Sometime in the later 70's he was badly beaten by some bouncers in a NYC brothel. He completely stopped mongering after that.

The Cane
09-18-21, 14:39
My brother introduced me to the world of p4p in the early 1970's. Sometime in the later 70's he was badly beaten by some bouncers in a NYC brothel. He completely stopped mongering after that.I don't think anybody can "beat the monger" out of me hahaha! I would just go somewhere else after recovering from my injuries LOL!

Jmioffe
09-18-21, 20:13
It seems, judging from reports here, that the clubs are still active and worth a visit. Is that fair to say?

My main concern is the border. I've been hearing about this FFM card. I'll be taking the subway to the border at San Ysidro.

Should I be prepared to pay an extra $30 to cross? Who does the money go to? Where do I get the FFM card from, and are there ways to get it more cheaply or decline?

I went to Germany and Ukraine over the summer. When I entered Ukraine, I had to buy local insurance. Will there be a requirement like that?

When I left Ukraine to come back to the USA, the airline wouldn't let me board without a negative COVID test, despite being vaccinated. Does that exist for the pedestrian crossing too?

My next concern is food. Are the taco vendors still out? I love that Hieronymus Bosch-like scene on the corner of Coahuila and see. Ninos Heroes. Is it still like that?

Is Telefonica Gastro Park still open?

Thanks!

KC Questor
09-18-21, 20:46
It seems, judging from reports here, that the clubs are still active and worth a visit. Is that fair to say?Yep.


My main concern is the border. I've been hearing about this FFM card. I'll be taking the subway to the border at San Ysidro.
Should I be prepared to pay an extra $30 to cross? Who does the money go to? Where do I get the FFM card from, and are there ways to get it more cheaply or decline?It is an FMM, and is a requirement for tourists to enter Mexico. The fee has traditionally been waived for visits of under 7 days, but during the pandemic they were often making people pay the fee for visits of any length. There is no real rhyme or reason to who has to pay and who doesn't -- it seems to be the whim of the day. I've seen more and more guys crossing without having to pay, or even fill out the form. If you go, you may have to fill out a form and cross, and they may make you pay the $30 fee, or they may just wave you through. If you do pay the $30, the form will be valid for six months, so you can keep it and just walk in using the Mexican Nationals line in the future. If you want to, you can pre-print the form and have it ready for when you cross the border.

https://www.inm.gob.mx/fmme/publico/en/solicitud.html
(your port of entry will be "El Chaparral")


I went to Germany and Ukraine over the summer. When I entered Ukraine, I had to buy local insurance. Will there be a requirement like that?Only if you are driving. You will need Mexican auto insurance. No other insurance is required.


When I left Ukraine to come back to the USA, the airline wouldn't let me board without a negative COVID test, despite being vaccinated. Does that exist for the pedestrian crossing too?Nope.


My next concern is food. Are the taco vendors still out? I love that Hieronymus Bosch-like scene on the corner of Coahuila and see. Ninos Heroes. Is it still like that?Yep.

Jmioffe
09-18-21, 20:56
Yep.

It is an FMM, and is a requirement for tourists to enter Mexico. The fee has traditionally been waived for visits of under 7 days, but during the pandemic they were often making people pay the fee for visits of any length. There is no real rhyme or reason to who has to pay and who doesn't -- it seems to be the whim of the day. I've seen more and more guys crossing without having to pay, or even fill out the form. If you go, you may have to fill out a form and cross, and they may make you pay the $30 fee, or they may just wave you through. If you do pay the $30, the form will be valid for six months, so you can keep it and just walk in using the Mexican Nationals line in the future. If you want to, you can pre-print the form and have it ready for when you cross the border.

https://www.inm.gob.mx/fmme/publico/en/solicitud.html
(your port of entry will be "El Chaparral")

Only if you are driving. You will need Mexican auto insurance. No other insurance is required.

Nope.

Yep.This is really helpful. Thank you!

Sol12
09-18-21, 22:25
Thanks for the Uber and GDL tips! Staying at a place in the historic center and the rates are really cheap for a nice room / area it looks like. I also am not much of a massage type of guy but if it's just a front for prostitution I am all for it. Were a bit spoiled with Zona Norte in Tijuana.

http://www.booking.com/Share-mF3Ojs

Been to Lake Chapala?

G.I can't say the hotel doesn't look good. Most reviews seem positive. I don't know what plans you have or how long you are staying in GDL. From my experience Centro is boring at night and many don't recommend it at night. The only experience I have is spent 1 afternoon walking around taking pictures of the buildings etc. At night I only took a cab to a strip club and left. From what I could tell is that most shops and tourist stuff close at night. It doesn't have a great selection of restaurants compared to other parts of the city. When I'm on vacation I like to eat at good restaurants since I don't at home. If you stay outside of Centro it's easy to take a cab in. From my experience you only need 1 day to see everything. Unless you want to take a tour to Chapala o Tequila, they also have those bus tours thru the city. When I went to Tequila we just hired an Uber driver to take us and wait a couple of hours and take us back. Me and my buddy didn't want to be stuck on an all day tour. When I went to Chapala I had a rental car.

So yes I visited Chapala. I wasn't impressed. The only thing I missed out on is on the way you can visit Vincente Fernández house but I forgot. I would recommend the trip to Tequila over Chapala. Also would check out Tlaquepaque. It's a nice little spot to walk around and buy some souvenirs if you want. Some good spots to eat as well. Just go during the day since I'm not sure how open it is at night.

I stayed at the Krystal Urbano before and it's a good hotel not to expensive but great part of the city.

Let me know if you have more questions.

Hargow20
09-18-21, 23:49
Sometimes the immigration officers will not require you to get a FMM form. Just show your form & the immigration officers will usually not check. When I first got mine they claimed it was a visa. I asked the officer to show me where it said it was a visa & they refused.


Yep.

It is an FMM, and is a requirement for tourists to enter Mexico. The fee has traditionally been waived for visits of under 7 days, but during the pandemic they were often making people pay the fee for visits of any length. There is no real rhyme or reason to who has to pay and who doesn't -- it seems to be the whim of the day. I've seen more and more guys crossing without having to pay, or even fill out the form. If you go, you may have to fill out a form and cross, and they may make you pay the $30 fee, or they may just wave you through. If you do pay the $30, the form will be valid for six months, so you can keep it and just walk in using the Mexican Nationals line in the future. If you want to, you can pre-print the form and have it ready for when you cross the border.

https://www.inm.gob.mx/fmme/publico/en/solicitud.html
(your port of entry will be "El Chaparral")

Only if you are driving. You will need Mexican auto insurance. No other insurance is required.

Nope.

Yep.

Flyer47
09-19-21, 13:27
Is proof of vaccination or testing required to re-enter for pedestrians at the San Ysidro port of entry?

TaipeiDan
09-19-21, 17:10
I recently crossed the border at San Ysidro. At Mexican border control, I said I was there to go to a pharmacy. I got pulled into a side room, and after waiting 10 minutes, a border officer firmly told me not to cross for touristic reasons. He let me into MX, but he also scanned my ID. Ever since, I've been leery about returning until they lift the restrictions. But the bars are calling. Are they clamping down? Do I need to worry that he scanned my ID? Is there a better story I should tell at the border? Any insights would be much appreciated.

Captain Solo
09-19-21, 18:08
Turgid,

In the mid 80's to mid 90's I used to go to NYC and Long Island for business. After work I would pick up street walkers near Time Square and on 42nd St at night.

Also went to a few Korean brothels, each would have 6 to 8 hot girls and got to know a few mamasans. One night I went to a favorite Korean brothel. Mamasan was smiling broadly, the whole place had been booked for a private party by an old congressman and his friends. Naked horny old men were running in and out of the hallway drinking, squeezing, kissing, licking young girls, grunting laughing, making lots of noise, having a good time. I don't think the old congressman gave a shit about being set up and blackmailed by guys like Kim Jung Un. Mamasan made a lot of money off that private party and was happy. There are on-going trafficking of women from Korea, Thailand, Mexico and Latin America to NYC as demands for sexual services there are so high.

I heard brothels run by Mafia but never knew where they were. There must be a lot of demand for commercial sex, prostitutes, escorts, gang bang, orgies by people with lots of money and power in a big and perverted metropolis like NY. What was shown with Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman in "Eyes Wide Shut" may be exaggerated with its slow, elaborate clergy-like rituals, but there must be lots of organized sex events every damn week in NYC with millions rich, horny perverts.

Washington DC has some high-class brothels catering to the bible-thumping politicians. The internet has made sex market far more discreet but guys still enjoy hanging out, drinking, relaxing, flirting with beautiful, slutty women, so the brothel business model like Hong Kong is still in high demand.

Your brother was very cool to have introduced you to rental women. I tried to coach my brother how to make win-win deals with women, starting with HK girls, but he balked, too much of a purist to pay for companies of women. He ended up really fucked up his life in a relationship with an old, fat, ugly, unemployed, 3-time divorced woman. Stupid guy gave his life away to a cold, greedy, ugly, evil, manipulating woman, having fights and headache every day. She got him stuck and severely fucked, cannot pull out of that ugly relationship.

Your brother must have done something very serious to get beat up by bouncers. Organized criminals running brothels usually don't want to involve with law enforcement and draw attention.

I try to counsel the young guys I know with my objective views, so they can avoid big problems and have relatively safe, happy life, sexual or otherwise.

Gregyyr
09-19-21, 18:23
I recently crossed the border at San Ysidro. At Mexican border control, I said I was there to go to a pharmacy. I got pulled into a side room, and after waiting 10 minutes, a border officer firmly told me not to cross for touristic reasons. He let me into MX, but he also scanned my ID. Ever since, I've been leery about returning until they lift the restrictions. But the bars are calling. Are they clamping down? Do I need to worry that he scanned my ID? Is there a better story I should tell at the border? Any insights would be much appreciated.I was able to cross a few times saying I was going to a dentist but last time I got pulled in and they said this time is OK but next time I needed and actual appointment.

I got tired of the BS and just said I was planning on traveling to a few cities in Mexico like Guadalajara and also taking a driving trip with a friend to Cabo San Lucas. This forced them to offer me a 6 month visa but they required that I pay for this on a credit card (which was fine) and they wrote me a 6 month visa. When they asked where I was going I first started saying I was going to Guadalajara, and border patrol interrupted me and said I should just get Visa at the airport when I leave, but when I added I was driving trip to Cabo San Lucas on the Baja peninsula with a buddy, I think this got them to offer me the $30 visa good for 6 months on the spot. The reason for my trip to Tijuana was just to get prepared like go to TelCel and get a sim chip etc.

So they gave me the 6 month visa and now I skip the line on the right for Foreigners and walk in the Mexican line on the left when going through the border into Tijuana. I just have my visa in my hand if they ask to see it. The last time I walked by he didn't even ask to see it. Just walk with purpose and if they want to stop you they can.

G.

Gregyyr
09-19-21, 18:40
Chavellas girl I met a week before said she would meet me Saturday but flaked. I kind of thought she may do that but it was a good excuse to go down to Tijuana for a few hours. I won't ever meetup with a verbal commitment again but kind of felt like this girl really wanted the $100.

Met up with mr "Implying" from the board a bit later and it was great to hang out in Azul's and exchange Mongering and other travel adventures. Checked out a couple bars which were just starting to humm late in the afternoon and he had not been to Taco's El Frac so we stopped by there as the place has a great ambiance before I headed back to the border. For others coming down if you have a few minutes stop by Mercado Hildago which is very close to downtown. I have a buddy / tour guide in Tijuana who always takes tourists to Mercado Hildago to wander around the big open air market.

G.

Captain Solo
09-19-21, 19:17
Greggy,

Did you have her tel # and stay in touch?

I whatsapp the girls and usually had no problem hooking up. A few times the girls would bullshit that they were in the club or in Tijuana but they were really still back in their little towns trying to scrape up money for airfare to go to work. Conversely a lot of guys would make dates with girls then no show. Girls are selective whom they answer texts to.

It's good you connected with Implying. El Franc is a very popular taco joint with all sorts of meats, beef, pork, mutton, goat, head cabeza, tongue lingua, tripe tripa, good to try all. I am going down this afternoon with a couple bros. Will try to raise Implying and have a few drinks. Last time he was in HK speakeasy he was in love with this girl with lots of tats all over her little body and a nose ring hehe. Hope he finds his sweetheart again. There are a few highly decorated girls in HK lately, really up his alley.

Hadez
09-19-21, 22:29
Mexico has been closed for tourism for a long time. Well that has been said at the Border but we all know people flying down there and all that goes with that. If you do not search it.

Usually this leads to a payment of $30 for a 6 month Visa. This has been going on for over a year now. Sometimes I am allowed to get in without payment and without a visa. Once I get the visa I use it to get back in for 6 months until I need to pay again.

My excuse for crossing is always to see a friend. I use that going in to Mexico and coming back to the USA.

My friend has gotten dentist information and used that reason to cross. He still has gotten charged $30 twice in the last year.


I recently crossed the border at San Ysidro. At Mexican border control, I said I was there to go to a pharmacy. I got pulled into a side room, and after waiting 10 minutes, a border officer firmly told me not to cross for touristic reasons. He let me into MX, but he also scanned my ID. Ever since, I've been leery about returning until they lift the restrictions. But the bars are calling. Are they clamping down? Do I need to worry that he scanned my ID? Is there a better story I should tell at the border? Any insights would be much appreciated.

Hadez
09-19-21, 22:32
Is proof of vaccination or testing required to re-enter for pedestrians at the San Ysidro port of entry?No.

This is not realistic.

Scbb1
09-20-21, 00:28
Sometimes the immigration officers will not require you to get a FMM form. Just show your form & the immigration officers will usually not check. When I first got mine they claimed it was a visa. I asked the officer to show me where it said it was a visa & they refused.I read the link you attached, it says that you can only use the FMM for one entry but that you can use it within 180 days?

Cocr Brotheler
09-20-21, 01:14
I read the link you attached, it says that you can only use the FMM for one entry but that you can use it within 180 days?It is good for up to 180 days multiple entries but make sure they give you full 180 days up front (or input when filling the form on-line yourself).

I filled one out on-line this last visit over LDW and think it saved me some time. I still had to wait for a border agent to inspect it and validate my receipt printed which I made sure I brought. A groups of 10 guys ahead of me without visas had to first be processed. I waited 15-20 min for the initial but got it stamped and signed and my 2 follow on visits over LDW flow I breezed right thru.

Phordphan
09-20-21, 01:57
I read the link you attached, it says that you can only use the FMM for one entry but that you can use it within 180 days?Technically, the FMM is only good for one entry / exit. If you fly into and out of Mexico they will make you get one when entering, and they will take it before you board the plane for home.

However, Mexicans are nothing if not pragmatic. There is no way to make everybody exiting at San Ysidro surrender their FMMs. And if there were, the lines would be horrendous. The same goes for entry. So, they let you keep your FMM when coming and going across the land border. At least for SY and Otay. I've never crossed with an FMM at any other crossing. Maybe others can comment on Mexicali, or El Paso, or Los Algodones.

BrotherMouzone
09-20-21, 05:54
I read the link you attached, it says that you can only use the FMM for one entry but that you can use it within 180 days?In theory FMMs are only supposed to be used for one entry and are supposed to be surrendered every time you leave Mexico but that's never actually enforced. In practice you can leave and re-enter with the same FMM for as long as the FMM is valid, whether that be the 7 or 180 day FMM.

Turgid
09-20-21, 15:33
....Your brother must have done something very serious to get beat up by bouncers. Organized criminals running brothels usually don't want to involve with law enforcement and draw attention....I was at home in bed when he came home all bruised and bloodied. He told me the woman short timed him, they argued and he tried to get money out of her hand bag. Very bad idea. That brothel had really nice women and I actually subsequently returned to it: then, a huge muscle bound goon would enter the room when they decide time is up, no warning, no knocking. Some other brothels also initiated that process. Not too long after that I switched to picking up street walkers and getting head in my car. No one anywhere in the world could have beaten a NYC hooker for BBBJCIM. That was my sexual preference for decades after that, I enjoyed it more than FS. Those were great times!

The Cane
09-20-21, 15:47
I heard brothels run by Mafia but never knew where they were. There must be a lot of demand for commercial sex, prostitutes, escorts, gang bang, orgies by people with lots of money and power in a big and perverted metropolis like NY. What was shown with Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman in "Eyes Wide Shut" may be exaggerated with its slow, elaborate clergy-like rituals, but there must be lots of organized sex events every damn week in NYC with millions rich, horny perverts.You want to know where the and how the mafia was involved in the New York City sex trade? Then watch this excellent series on HBO Max. Very real and based on (many) true stories:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixd8Tj9a25k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHd6tdIG4KI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwxwSI1s3fM

Hargow20
09-20-21, 16:42
This is fairly surprising. They usually just make you purchase a FMM / Visa. Once I got my FMM / Visa they never hassled me. If they question you tell them you have a dental appt if it is during day. The other option is carry a copy of a prescription. I carry a copy of prescription in case I need it. Once you get the FMM / visa just carry it with you and show it to immigration Usually they don't even stop to question you.


I recently crossed the border at San Ysidro. At Mexican border control, I said I was there to go to a pharmacy. I got pulled into a side room, and after waiting 10 minutes, a border officer firmly told me not to cross for touristic reasons. He let me into MX, but he also scanned my ID. Ever since, I've been leery about returning until they lift the restrictions. But the bars are calling. Are they clamping down? Do I need to worry that he scanned my ID? Is there a better story I should tell at the border? Any insights would be much appreciated.

ZeroDc4213
09-20-21, 17:12
What is the quickest way to get back into US without standing in 3 hour lines? I'd like to go more often but this is discouraging.

MacNCheeze
09-20-21, 18:01
What is the quickest way to get back into US without standing in 3 hour lines? I'd like to go more often but this is discouraging.Global entry / SENTRI. Adjust the time you're crossing, or go through Otay?

LuvMexicanas
09-20-21, 18:28
What is the quickest way to get back into US without standing in 3 hour lines? I'd like to go more often but this is discouraging.I assume you do not have global entry given the question. With that out of the way, stick to weekdays and simply return 10 pm or later.

Jackie888
09-20-21, 18:43
What is the quickest way to get back into US without standing in 3 hour lines? I'd like to go more often but this is discouraging.Get a Sentri / Global entry card.

Or come back between 2 am and 4 am.

Hargow20
09-20-21, 19:08
I always walk across. The wait is way shorter. If you cross after 9 there is usually little if any wait. The other advantage is you don't have to worried about being pulled.


What is the quickest way to get back into US without standing in 3 hour lines? I'd like to go more often but this is discouraging.

Artisttyp
09-20-21, 19:57
You want to know where the and how the mafia was involved in the New York City sex trade? Then watch this excellent series on HBO Max. Very real and based on (many) true stories:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixd8Tj9a25k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHd6tdIG4KI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwxwSI1s3fMI watched it. Doesn't come close to what it was. The set looks like it came off the studio lot in Burbank.

There are several books which capture the scene better.

City of Night by John Rechy or the Al Goldstein autobiography. Even the movie Midnight Cowboy would be a better example.

The Cane
09-20-21, 21:00
I watched it. Doesn't come close to what it was. The set looks like it came off the studio lot in Burbank.

There are several books which capture the scene better.

City of Night by John Rechy or the Al Goldstein autobiography. Even the movie Midnight Cowboy would be a better example.I think they did an outstanding job with the set. I walked those same streets of New York and know from direct experience what they looked like. They captured that. And they did an excellent job of telling a story of how the porn trade (and New York) changed over the 70's and the 80's. And oh, the critics agree with me. Midnight Cowboy. Please!

StRobert
09-20-21, 22:14
What is the quickest way to get back into US without standing in 3 hour lines? I'd like to go more often but this is discouraging.San Ysidro pedestrian crossing (pedeast) If you don't have sentri, the fastest way to come back to the US is between 10 PM to Midnight weekdays. Avoid Sunday evening, last day Easter and Christmas, Mexican Independence Day 15,16 September and big festivals e. G. This year's Baja Beach Festival in Rosarito August 13-15 and August 20-22 the line of waiting for the return to the US in pedeast was 5 -6 hours! After crossing the border, the last trolley to downtown San Diego is 1228 AM and 1258 AM. If you use a trolley you can park your car on the trolley parking free 24 hours. Easy.

Artisttyp
09-20-21, 22:15
I think they did an outstanding job with the set. I walked those same streets of New York and know from direct experience what they looked like. They captured that. And they did an excellent job of telling a story of how the porn trade (and New York) changed over the 70's and the 80's. And oh, the critics agree with me. Midnight Cowboy. Please!I started my mongering career in the Deuce. Been around that area since the 70's /80's. They squeeze in a few live shots from the past but the rest is a stage somewhere in Burbank. As a Native Ny'er I don't approve.

Captain Solo
09-20-21, 23:18
Turjid.

Robbing or raping hookers are very bad idea. You would be stealing from the pimps' stash and they will be very harsh. They could have taken your brother into an alley, stick a knife in his back and twist it, leave him to bleed to death in freezing weather. NYC's murder investigations and convictions back then were not so hot.

The flimsy doors to cramped fuck rooms are left unlocked, so pimps can badge in at any time for time outs, collecting money or to protect the girls. The sex scene in Tijuana with flirting in the club and discreet sex in your own hotel rooms is far more upscale.

NYC must have many exclusive clubs with limited membership where wealthy guys can hang out with their chums, drink cognacs, eat fancy meals, smoke cigars, flirt with the help, have orgies and fuck them after big meals. NYPD would be excluded but the Police Commissioner would be a long-time member.

We are lucky to have our cheap sexy clubs in Tijuana hehe.

Artisttyp
09-20-21, 23:50
You will love this book.

https://www.amazon.com/I-Goldstein-My-Screwed-Life-ebook/dp/B00272MRK0/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1GQBZ9TLMFG5V&dchild=1&keywords=al+goldstein&qid=1632178269&sprefix=al+gol%2 Caps%2 C209&sr=8-2.

Captain Solo
09-21-21, 01:06
My wingmen, without SENTRI or GE, have been crossing back in pedestrian lanes after midnight and usually had no wait, may be 5 to 10 minutes max, but a Saturday night had a long line back to the park, costing may be 2 hours.

One crossed back at 3 AM Monday morning last week (late night Sunday) and had a 2-hour wait. People going to work or school early morning on week day. Definitely should cross before 2 AM weekday.

Cocr Brotheler
09-21-21, 01:20
Technically, the FMM is only good for one entry / exit. If you fly into and out of Mexico they will make you get one when entering, and they will take it before you board the plane for home.

However, Mexicans are nothing if not pragmatic. There is no way to make everybody exiting at San Ysidro surrender their FMMs. And if there were, the lines would be horrendous. The same goes for entry. So, they let you keep your FMM when coming and going across the land border. At least for SY and Otay. I've never crossed with an FMM at any other crossing. Maybe others can comment on Mexicali, or El Paso, or Los Algodones.I bet they would make us buy a separate FMM for other than Otay since there is a form field for what entry crossing it is valid for.

Hargow20
09-21-21, 04:54
I agree behavior like this is foolish & gives our hobby a bad name. When I go with a working girl I am always nice to them since the girls have rough lives. There is a few times when I sensed the girl was a scammer. The girl would demand the money up front before taking off her clothes. When these incidents occur I will simply cut my losses & leave. Occasionally there is some psycho picks up a girl & rapes or kills her. TJ is reasonably safe for the girls. There is a lot of cops around so if a someone murdered a girl he would have a hard time getting away in the Zona. The redlight Zona model works fairly well for TJ. Guys can either pick a girl on the street or go to a club & find a girl. My only complaint is that you either have the low end SG's or the good club girls that charge a min of $100 in the club. There is few if any pricing in between. Personally I prefer the SW's. They usually give good service at a reasonable price. The downside is that the good ones like Jamie or Kayla are almost impossible to find.

But I have never come close to beating or hitting a girl. In the end it is always best to minimize your risks as much as possible.


Turjid.

Robbing or raping hookers are very bad idea. You would be stealing from the pimps' stash and they will be very harsh. They could have taken your brother into an alley, stick a knife in his back and twist it, leave him to bleed to death in freezing weather. NYC's murder investigations and convictions back then were not so hot.

The flimsy doors to cramped fuck rooms are left unlocked, so pimps can badge in at any time for time outs, collecting money or to protect the girls. The sex scene in Tijuana with flirting in the club and discreet sex in your own hotel rooms is far more upscale.

NYC must have many exclusive clubs with limited membership where wealthy guys can hang out with their chums, drink cognacs, eat fancy meals, smoke cigars, flirt with the help, have orgies and fuck them after big meals. NYPD would be excluded but the Police Commissioner would be a long-time member.

We are lucky to have our cheap sexy clubs in Tijuana hehe.

LuvMexicanas
09-21-21, 05:10
I agree behavior like this is foolish & gives our hobby a bad name. When I go with a working girl I am always nice to them since the girls have rough lives. There is a few times when I sensed the girl was a scammer. The girl would demand the money up front before taking off her clothes. When these incidents occur I will simply cut my losses & leave. But I have never come close to beating or hitting a girl. in the end it is always best to minimize your risks as much as possible.Even when a chica has specifically asked you to smack her around, choke her or some other rough treatment.

Turgid
09-21-21, 14:52
Turjid.

Robbing or raping hookers are very bad idea. You would be stealing from the pimps' stash and they will be very harsh. They could have taken your brother into an alley, stick a knife in his back and twist it, leave him to bleed to death in freezing weather. NYC's murder investigations and convictions back then were not so hot.

The flimsy doors to cramped fuck rooms are left unlocked, so pimps can badge in at any time for time outs, collecting money or to protect the girls. The sex scene in Tijuana with flirting in the club and discreet sex in your own hotel rooms is far more upscale.

NYC must have many exclusive clubs with limited membership where wealthy guys can hang out with their chums, drink cognacs, eat fancy meals, smoke cigars, flirt with the help, have orgies and fuck them after big meals. NYPD would be excluded but the Police Commissioner would be a long-time member.

We are lucky to have our cheap sexy clubs in Tijuana hehe.He had been drinking heavily but that is no excuse. He was cheated and acted capriciously. We had both been regular customers to that establishment so perhaps that is why he was not harmed more. These guys have good memories so they looked at me with some amount of circumspection when I visited some time after. I was cheated worst than my brother at another brothel but I just complained to the management, they took her side and I left with my tail between my legs, never to return for some time. Generally, the ladies gave great service with lots of humorous conversation and laughter.

I lived the Deuce at the time portrayed in the HBO series. Its a good series but I doubt any producer could capture the real essence of that great era in NYC history. The open drug trafficking, the numerous hustlers all over, the black 'military' on the streets, guys overdosing right before your eyes, hookers all over the place following you, pulling at your arm, the garbage on the streets, portable ghetto blasters on the move every which way you turn, young old male female street dwellers some in the most appalling dirty and tattered clothes. My goodness the sights, the sounds, the smells. I find it so strange not seeing at least a documentary that shows this. There must be because I saw videographers at work albeit in the daytime when things were a bit tamer. Nevertheless, I much prefer the 1970's NYC to the present.

Hargow20
09-21-21, 15:26
Seems foolish to go back to a place where they cheated & beat your friend.


He had been drinking heavily but that is no excuse. He was cheated and acted capriciously. We had both been regular customers to that establishment so perhaps that is why he was not harmed more. These guys have good memories so they looked at me with some amount of circumspection when I visited some time after. I was cheated worst than my brother at another brothel but I just complained to the management, they took her side and I left with my tail between my legs, never to return for some time. Generally, the ladies gave great service with lots of humorous conversation and laughter.

I lived the Deuce at the time portrayed in the HBO series. Its a good series but I doubt any producer could capture the real essence of that great era in NYC history. The open drug trafficking, the numerous hustlers all over, the black 'military' on the streets, guys overdosing right before your eyes, hookers all over the place following you, pulling at your arm, the garbage on the streets, portable ghetto blasters on the move every which way you turn, young old male female street dwellers some in the most appalling dirty and tattered clothes. My goodness the sights, the sounds, the smells. I find it so strange not seeing at least a documentary that shows this. There must be because I saw videographers at work albeit in the daytime when things were a bit tamer. Nevertheless, I much prefer the 1970's NYC to the present.

Artisttyp
09-21-21, 22:39
I lived the Deuce at the time portrayed in the HBO series. Its a good series but I doubt any producer could capture the real essence of that great era in NYC history. The open drug trafficking, the numerous hustlers all over, the black 'military' on the streets, guys overdosing right before your eyes, hookers all over the place following you, pulling at your arm, the garbage on the streets, portable ghetto blasters on the move every which way you turn, young old male female street dwellers some in the most appalling dirty and tattered clothes. My goodness the sights, the sounds, the smells. I find it so strange not seeing at least a documentary that shows this. There must be because I saw videographers at work albeit in the daytime when things were a bit tamer. Nevertheless, I much prefer the 1970's NYC to the present. I worked in several of the male revues in the area. I agree 100 % I was employed by Robin Byrd when she took over Showorld Showpalace. That wasn't until the 90's but I lost my virginity on 49th St. Between 7th and 8th ave to Wendy on the 2nd floor of a peep show in 83' that doubled as a brothel. I was also trolling The Zoo on 46th st. Never made it to Plato's Retreat though. Peepland was the first place I visited. My father had an office for 40 years two blocks away. Those were good days.

Dogers69
09-21-21, 23:02
I used to go to 42nd street in 93, for few years. Back then just walking into strip clubs was a high. Almost same experience as now with Tijuana minus sex for me anyway. . Flashdancers and private eyes were my favorite. Endless hotties beyond what HK has to offer. Manhattan is boring now it's not just these places that closed, many dive bars, music venues closed. Manhattan is more dangerous right now than Tijuana for robbery or attacks. I was in Manhattan 2 hours the other day, guy walks into restaurant, up to my table, says thanks for the burger, grabs it walks out. Almost every time I go to Manhattan since covid is a incident for each day which is only 4 hours a day.

Gregyyr
09-22-21, 01:14
I worked in several of the male revues in the area. I agree 100 % I was employed by Robin Byrd when she took over Showorld Showpalace. That wasn't until the 90's but I lost my virginity on 49th St. Between 7th and 8th ave to Wendy on the 2nd floor of a peep show in 83' that doubled as a brothel. I was also trolling The Zoo on 46th st. Never made it to Plato's Retreat though. Peepland was the first place I visited. My father had an office for 40 years two blocks away. Those were good days.Dang Artist. Those are a hell of set of memories from the past! I wish some documentary captured the NY experience better but the reality is film can't capture but only a small perception of what it's like. In comparison if you were shooting video clips inside HongKong at 10 pm on a Saturday night. Film just isn't dimensional enough to grasp even a quarter of the feeling. The memories that are seared into my brain from just being down there over the last 3 years will be there at least till I loose my mind. Just a magical place.

G.

Captain Solo
09-22-21, 02:14
Turgid.

NYC had quite a few pretty spinners, 5'2 or so, small frame, fine bones, light skin, pretty and cool, compared to bigger, fatter girls upstate NY.

I picked up a pretty spinner with a pretty with a sweet smile near Central Park. She took me to a roach hotel right at the border with Bronx. Had a very sweet and sexy session with her. When it was over, I went to the banos to take a leak, fully aware of and being careful with my jacket and pants with the wallet on a night stand nearby while she was still dressing up across the bed. I was straining to hear her foot step moving to the night stand but did not hear any. I came out in a flash; she was waiting at the door, said good bye then disappeared from the room on the second floor. Then I found out my wallet was missing from which I had taken the cash out to pay her before the session. I chased her out on the street but did not find her. Man I was mad as hell being duped by such a nice girl.

Lucky I still had the car key. Drove back to the hotel across the rive after midnight, got pulled over by NJ State Police. I had no IDs, explained to him how I lost my wallet, showed him the car rental agreement. He probably knew a lot of crazy shit can happen in Manhattan so he let me go without hassle.

Got to admit street girls and brothel girl sin NYC were some of the prettiest, funniest, most exciting. I like their sweet, sexy and fast personality with a tendency to turn dangerous at times. Youngsters in NYC always put down their neighbors in NJ as backward, clueless country folks, not worth hanging out with.

BrotherMouzone
09-22-21, 02:47
Made it to Tijuana today. Showed Mexican customs my printed FMM. The lady stamped it, checked my passport, and let me through without even asking me a single question like why I was visiting Mexico (which I think I've been asked on every other trip I've ever made). She was talking to a co-worker though and seemed distracted. I think I could've even walked through the Mexican Nationals line without stopping to get my passport checked as literally no one was paying attention or keeping guard at the time.

For whatever reason my international data connection is always shoddy at the border so couldn't call Uber. Had to catch a taxi. As soon as I got closer to the Zona, my data connection picked up just fine. Not sure why that always happens. Will say my international connection (Sprint) works great in like 90% of the spots I've been to in Tijuana.

Hadez
09-22-21, 06:01
1. Fastest way I have crossed is 2-4 AM in the morning. Even quicker than the day Sentri line. On workdays 4 AM is too late.

2. Sentri. Will get you through almost as fast as 3 AM just about any time of day. I have seen the line stopped yet they keep letting Sentri people through.

3. Pay someone at the border. The shuttle is the most legit feeling way. Shuttle costs like $7 or something. Also can pay $20 at the office building for a one day "mexican sentri". This is legit but it does not feel legit. Last time I did this the policia kicked the people out of the line before us and after us but left us in the handicap line. They like the people who pay and kick out the people who are just cutting. Actually had someone in the regular line try to "snitch" on us. The policia looked at us but said nothing. They know who pays and who does not pay. Honestly money paid here is just a stupid tax for not having the Sentri.


What is the quickest way to get back into US without standing in 3 hour lines? I'd like to go more often but this is discouraging.

Turgid
09-22-21, 14:52
I worked in several of the male revues in the area. I agree 100 % I was employed by Robin Byrd when she took over Showorld Showpalace. That wasn't until the 90's but I lost my virginity on 49th St. Between 7th and 8th ave to Wendy on the 2nd floor of a peep show in 83' that doubled as a brothel. I was also trolling The Zoo on 46th st. Never made it to Plato's Retreat though. Peepland was the first place I visited. My father had an office for 40 years two blocks away. Those were good days.You actually worked at Show World! Man you had my dream job at the time! I would not have minded even mopping up the goo in the cubicles, hahaha. We must have crossed paths. Show World Center was my favorite, it was the most popular, 3 floors of action. I visited there hundreds of times for cunnilingus and solo release. I lost my virginity in a room on 7th avenue, must have been close to where you lost yours.

Hargow20, it was my brother they cheated and beat. I did not want to return but relented since they had the best girls of all the brothels I knew of at the time.

Captain Solo, in the 70's and 80's NYC had hookers as hot as or hotter than what you can find in FKKs in Germany today and generally they gave better service for reasonable prices. Back then I paid between $10 and $30 a FS session. I got great BBBJCIM in my car for between $5 and $10, orgasm guaranteed! My best mongering days.

Hargow20
09-22-21, 16:31
Crossing after 9 pm is usually a good time to cross. Only have to wait 5 or 10 min.


1. Fastest way I have crossed is 2-4 AM in the morning. Even quicker than the day Sentri line. On workdays 4 AM is too late.

2. Sentri. Will get you through almost as fast as 3 AM just about any time of day. I have seen the line stopped yet they keep letting Sentri people through.

3. Pay someone at the border. The shuttle is the most legit feeling way. Shuttle costs like $7 or something. Also can pay $20 at the office building for a one day "mexican sentri". This is legit but it does not feel legit. Last time I did this the policia kicked the people out of the line before us and after us but left us in the handicap line. They like the people who pay and kick out the people who are just cutting. Actually had someone in the regular line try to "snitch" on us. The policia looked at us but said nothing. They know who pays and who does not pay. Honestly money paid here is just a stupid tax for not having the Sentri.

Artisttyp
09-22-21, 18:04
You actually worked at Show World! Man you had my dream job at the time! I would not have minded even mopping up the goo in the cubicles, hahaha. We must have crossed paths. Show World Center was my favorite, it was the most popular, 3 floors of action. I visited there hundreds of times for cunnilingus and solo release. I lost my virginity in a room on 7th avenue, must have been close to where you lost yours.
Actually I worked as a male dancer at Show Palace which was the male revue across the street from Showorld. Robyn would come into the dressing room to say Hello,. It was pretty cool to say you worked in a legendary sleaze establishment. I worked at a few other scandalous "revues" in the area then around 1993 - 97 is when things started to close down and Disney stepped in.

I tell people about the peep shows with rooms behind the screen and its hard to believe. The girls used to come out and sit with you while watching the movie and fondle your junk to get you into the back rooms. Really nice looking Puerto Rican and black women. There is so much more to it. I get emotional when I discuss the DEUCE. Definitely a major player in my life for better or for worse.

Captain Solo
09-22-21, 18:56
Is now a stripper joint with all nude pretty girls.

Scbb1
09-23-21, 12:57
It is good for up to 180 days multiple entries but make sure they give you full 180 days up front (or input when filling the form on-line yourself).

I filled one out on-line this last visit over LDW and think it saved me some time. I still had to wait for a border agent to inspect it and validate my receipt printed which I made sure I brought. A groups of 10 guys ahead of me without visas had to first be processed. I waited 15-20 min for the initial but got it stamped and signed and my 2 follow on visits over LDW flow I breezed right thru.I went online and got the 180 day one, it cost $90 vice $30. I am waiting for them to send me the document, can I go thru the Mexican line when I get it?

Gregyyr
09-23-21, 14:44
1. Fastest way I have crossed is 2-4 AM in the morning. Even quicker than the day Sentri line. On workdays 4 AM is too late.

2. Sentri. Will get you through almost as fast as 3 AM just about any time of day. I have seen the line stopped yet they keep letting Sentri people through.

3. Pay someone at the border. The shuttle is the most legit feeling way. Shuttle costs like $7 or something. Also can pay $20 at the office building for a one day "mexican sentri". This is legit but it does not feel legit. Last time I did this the policia kicked the people out of the line before us and after us but left us in the handicap line. They like the people who pay and kick out the people who are just cutting. Actually had someone in the regular line try to "snitch" on us. The policia looked at us but said nothing. They know who pays and who does not pay. Honestly money paid here is just a stupid tax for not having the Sentri.Where do you get the $7 shuttle from? One would think they would check for visas if you did this as well?

G.

Turgid
09-23-21, 14:55
Actually I worked as a male dancer at Show Palace which was the male revue across the street from Showorld. Robyn would come into the dressing room to say Hello,. It was pretty cool to say you worked in a legendary sleaze establishment. I worked at a few other scandalous "revues" in the area then around 1993 - 97 is when things started to close down and Disney stepped in.

I tell people about the peep shows with rooms behind the screen and its hard to believe. The girls used to come out and sit with you while watching the movie and fondle your junk to get you into the back rooms. Really nice looking Puerto Rican and black women. There is so much more to it. I get emotional when I discuss the DEUCE. Definitely a major player in my life for better or for worse.I definitely and vividly remember that place opposite Show World. It opened I believe around 1979, at least that's when I started to notice it. I was tempted on many occasions to go inside after cumming out of Show World but never did. As a matter of fact I think I did once and think I saw a contraption on display there on which you can have sex in many different positions. I did not explore further. That's a very fuzzy memory though. There was good and bad on the Deuce, the bad was the drugs, you could not walk ten paces without someone greeting you with "coke, acid, speed?".

Artisttyp
09-23-21, 18:21
I definitely and vividly remember that place opposite Show World. It opened I believe around 1979, at least that's when I started to notice it. I was tempted on many occasions to go inside after cumming out of Show World but never did. As a matter of fact I think I did once and think I saw a contraption on display there on which you can have sex in many different positions. I did not explore further. That's a very fuzzy memory though. There was good and bad on the Deuce, the bad was the drugs, you could not walk ten paces without someone greeting you with "coke, acid, speed?".Do you remember when they used to rob people with razor blades? Two guys roll up on someone on either side. One guy uses a razor blade to literally cut the guy's pocket out down the seam. Contents fall out and guys run away. 42 was a scary block between 7th and 8th. I used to test myself if I had the courage to walk it as a kid. I won't lie the first few times I was trembling.

Phordphan
09-23-21, 20:21
Do you remember when they used to rob people with razor blades? Two guys roll up on someone on either side. One guy uses a razor blade to literally cut the guy's pocket out down the seam. Contents fall out and guys run away. 42 was a scary block between 7th and 8th. I used to test myself if I had the courage to walk it as a kid. I won't lie the first few times I was trembling.And yet everybody misses the "good ol' days." WTF? People tolerated this hellscape because cheap pussy was available? AYFKM? NYC was a completely failed "state" in those days. Contrast the Manhattan of 1961 in Breakfast at Tiffany's to the shithole that served as a backdrop to 1976's Taxi Driver. Look what happened in a short 15 years. I, too, sometimes like to wax nostalgic. But, as Paul Simon said, "Everything looks worse in black and white."

Crusader560
09-24-21, 07:42
Hi fellas,

Thanks for the info. It seems like all you need to do is say I am visiting friends. And coming back leave real early like 1:30 or 2 am. To avoid the crazy line. Would that also work on Sunday night? Meaning Monday morning, LOL.

I wouldn't want to miss my plane. There should be a faster way to get a global entry pass or sentri pass than waiting 4 months.

Turgid
09-24-21, 14:22
Do you remember when they used to rob people with razor blades? Two guys roll up on someone on either side. One guy uses a razor blade to literally cut the guy's pocket out down the seam. Contents fall out and guys run away. 42 was a scary block between 7th and 8th. I used to test myself if I had the courage to walk it as a kid. I won't lie the first few times I was trembling.Back in the 70's and I would say early 80's Manhatten was a very dangerous place at nights. Robbery at knife or gun point was common. I was around 18 when I first visited Times Square and its environs and frankly I was never scared. I walked all over Manhatten at nights. I always walked the populous streets. Any street that looked dark and deserted was avoided, those were the dangerous ones. There were guys who would look at you menacingly on 42nd st. , Broadway, Times Square, for example, but they could not do anything, too many people around. After midnight one further restricted ones treks.

Turgid
09-24-21, 14:29
And yet everybody misses the "good ol' days." WTF? People tolerated this hellscape because cheap pussy was available? AYFKM? NYC was a completely failed "state" in those days. Contrast the Manhattan of 1961 in Breakfast at Tiffany's to the shithole that served as a backdrop to 1976's Taxi Driver. Look what happened in a short 15 years. I, too, sometimes like to wax nostalgic. But, as Paul Simon said, "Everything looks worse in black and white."I was not in Manhatten in 1961 but I would not doubt that it may have been a better environment than it was in 1976. However, from what I'm seeing today 2021 NYC is by far a greater failed state than 1976 NYC.

Artisttyp
09-24-21, 21:14
Hi fellas,

Thanks for the info. It seems like all you need to do is say I am visiting friends. And coming back leave real early like 1:30 or 2 am. To avoid the crazy line. Would that also work on Sunday night? Meaning Monday morning, LOL.

I wouldn't want to miss my plane. There should be a faster way to get a global entry pass or sentri pass than waiting 4 months.Give yourself and extra 1 1/2 minimum if you have a flight. You never know what the situation can be. Personally I would start the process at 12 am then kill any extra time chilling out in McDonalds having a coffee or something to eat.

Cocr Brotheler
09-25-21, 00:53
I went online and got the 180 day one, it cost $90 vice $30. I am waiting for them to send me the document, can I go thru the Mexican line when I get it?Whoah! $90 for 180 days? I only paid $30 last month for 180 days.

WombatEd2
09-25-21, 01:15
I went online and got the 180 day one, it cost $90 vice $30. I am waiting for them to send me the document, can I go thru the Mexican line when I get it?Did you by any chance sign up via one of those "expediters" who charge you an arm and a leg to "help" you get your documents?

Jackie888
09-25-21, 01:30
Whoah! $90 for 180 days? I only paid $30 last month for 180 days.It sounds like he paid a private website to fill out the same paperwork. And got ripped off and slapped with a 200% mark up.

Cocr Brotheler
09-25-21, 06:17
It sounds like he paid a private website to fill out the same paperwork. And got ripped off and slapped with a 200% mark up.I hope so. If not the rate of the increase staggering!!!

WombatEd2
09-26-21, 19:42
I walked into Mexico, through PedEast, yesterday (Saturday) around noon. The line was very short, because the Immigration officer was merely glancing at passports and waving people through.

A friend, who walks through weekly, says that's typical these days.

I walked into the US around 7:00 PM the same day, and the line took a little over an hour.

Scbb1
09-27-21, 11:29
It sounds like he paid a private website to fill out the same paperwork. And got ripped off and slapped with a 200% mark up.I went through the government website, it was not an expedite fee. It is good for 180 days, the $30 ones are supposed to be only good for 1 trip, read yours. But a lot of Mexican immigration let you get away with 180 days.

Guardman
09-27-21, 16:13
I figured that you pussy hounds that have traveled all over Latin America would know where to find the area the Country / City with the most blancas. Where would you recommend that I search? I have a strong attraction for these women. Thanks for the advice.

LuvMexicanas
09-27-21, 17:51
I figured that you pussy hounds that have traveled all over Latin America would know where to find the area the Country / City with the most blancas. Where would you recommend that I search? I have a strong attraction for these women. Thanks for the advice.Argentina because they're basically Italians which is why so many are used for telenovelas in other countries. Brazil has more in terms of raw numbers but it also has a much much higher total population so obviously I'm referring to Argentina in terms of percentage of the population that are so called white Latin Americans.

Guardman
09-27-21, 19:45
Argentina because they're basically Italians which is why so many are used for telenovelas in other countries. Brazil has more in terms of raw numbers but it also has a much much higher total population so obviously I'm referring to Argentina in terms of percentage of the population that are so called white Latin Americans.Hey brothers,

What if I limited the search area to Mexico, central America, and Colombia / Venezuela? Where would you recommend that I look?

The Southern points of South America are too damn far.

Thanks.

Captain Solo
09-27-21, 20:12
Argentinian girls are pretty but the commercial scenes, clubs, cafes and streets had been cracked down and decimated. Casas have girls but they are older, chunkier, serious and clinical, not fun, flirty, sexy. Escorts sites list lots of fake pics. The women who show are usually older and thicker than I like. Argentina's pesos tanked, but the girls peg their companies to the dollar. There is little info in the ARG thread for good reason.

A bro who lived and traveled throughout Latin America, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Bolivia ect voted for Tijuana as the best and most convenient town with lots of hot, light skinned spinners, all within 1 small block. Club girls are young, beautiful, fun, flirty in the club and can be passionate in bed. Even the street girls are hot. It's hard to find black or really dark skin girls in HK, only one I saw and she works sporadically.

A bro, who lives half time in BS As, went to Hong Kong club with me and was amazed with the good selection of over 100 hot girls, mostly light-skin spinners with Spanish / Italian looks. He popped 3 girls in a couple hours he was there.

Colombia has lots of light-skin girls, worth checking.

Jmioffe
09-28-21, 21:10
I mostly monger in Europe and Canada. I've been to Tijuana once. I had a good time, but I hardly got any sexy time.

I went to eat at Telefonica Gastropark, walked down Avenida Revolucion, stopped for a bite at Caesars, and sampled the tacos on the corner of Coahulia and Ninos Heroes.

I went into Hong Kong to take a look. The girls were pretty, but it wasn't exactly my scene. A little too loud, a little too much hustle, I felt like a mark in a casino. I watched a pretty hot dildo show on the fifth floor.

My hotel was outside the zona norte though, and the next day I went to Playas and took a walk around.

What should I do to have a more sexy experience this time?

I guess I can book a room in a local hotel, Ticuan or Cascadas? I guess Cascadas would let me get takeout from the clubs better? I read the girls won't go to Ticuan unless they know you, so Ticuan would be a choice for escorts? I like the escort model better ... more straightforward, and less hustle, and I read Cascadas is kind of noisy for sleeping.

If I go the club route for girls, do I have to sit around screening the talent in the club with interviews and buying them drinks (at what cost) or will just tipping them do? Should I have grabbed the two from the hot dildo show right off the set as they were going back to get washed up? I have a feeling once they see the desire in your eyes they know they can raise the price.

I'm not really into chasing streetwalkers.

Is there anything else do you recommend that I do on my visit? It seemed like some bars in the area had some interesting live mariachi-type music and there was a bullfighting ring in Playas. Is it possible to pick up civilians there?

Thanks!

Dogers69
09-28-21, 23:26
I mostly monger in Europe and Canada. I've been to Tijuana once. I had a good time, but I hardly got any sexy time.

I went to eat at Telefonica Gastropark, walked down Avenida Revolucion, stopped for a bite at Caesars, and sampled the tacos on the corner of Coahulia and Ninos Heroes.

I went into Hong Kong to take a look. The girls were pretty, but it wasn't exactly my scene. A little too loud, a little too much hustle, I felt like a mark in a casino. I watched a pretty hot dildo show on the fifth floor.

My hotel was outside the zona norte though, and the next day I went to Playas and took a walk around.

What should I do to have a more sexy experience this time?

I guess I can book a room in a local hotel, Ticuan or Cascadas? I guess Cascadas would let me get takeout from the clubs better? I read the girls won't go to Ticuan unless they know you, so Ticuan would be a choice for escorts? I like the escort model better ... more straightforward, and less hustle, and I read Cascadas is kind of noisy for sleeping.You already did all the main intriguing things. In fact 90% guys don't do more than HK and maybe a walk on revolucion. It's not worth the trip unless the Mexican culture itself intrigues you, for you anyway since you didn't get satisfied with the sex and HK scene. If your already bored of Mexico or need to find extra things in Tijuana to make it worth while then it's probably best to stay home. I read that Asian massage parlor busts are down like 98% and they are opening more and more due to decriminalization in NYC. There is other options. Personally I like hanging out in all the bars on revolucion so for me the trip would be worth it.

Jmioffe
09-28-21, 23:38
What should I do to have a more sexy experience this time?

Thanks!Non-essential travel is discouraged, right?

Should I book a teeth cleaning or something like that before I go? Will they ask why I'm going, and will "tourism" be an insufficient answer?

Phazze93
09-29-21, 00:12
Non-essential travel is discouraged, right?

Should I book a teeth cleaning or something like that before I go? Will they ask why I'm going, and will "tourism" be an insufficient answer?As a recent first timer. I didn't make any excuse at all.

I just walked past the border, didn't tell the guy shit cept that I was going to Caesars. Probably wouldn't have had to say ANYTHING if I didn't have an expired passport to be honest.

Artisttyp
09-29-21, 03:15
I mostly monger in Europe and Canada. I've been to Tijuana once. I had a good time, but I hardly got any sexy time.

I went to eat at Telefonica Gastropark, walked down Avenida Revolucion, stopped for a bite at Caesars, and sampled the tacos on the corner of Coahulia and Ninos Heroes.

I went into Hong Kong to take a look. The girls were pretty, but it wasn't exactly my scene. A little too loud, a little too much hustle, I felt like a mark in a casino. I watched a pretty hot dildo show on the fifth floor.

My hotel was outside the zona norte though, and the next day I went to Playas and took a walk around.

What should I do to have a more sexy experience this time?

I guess I can book a room in a local hotel, Ticuan or Cascadas? I guess Cascadas would let me get takeout from the clubs better? I read the girls won't go to Ticuan unless they know you, so Ticuan would be a choice for escorts? I like the escort model better ... more straightforward, and less hustle, and I read Cascadas is kind of noisy for sleeping.

If I go the club route for girls, do I have to sit around screening the talent in the club with interviews and buying them drinks (at what cost) or will just tipping them do? Should I have grabbed the two from the hot dildo show right off the set as they were going back to get washed up? I have a feeling once they see the desire in your eyes they know they can raise the price.

I'm not really into chasing streetwalkers.

Is there anything else do you recommend that I do on my visit? It seemed like some bars in the area had some interesting live mariachi-type music and there was a bullfighting ring in Playas. Is it possible to pick up civilians there?

Thanks!Play a round of golf at Club Campestre.

Shop for a leather jacket.

Purchase duty free perfume for "loved ones" at Sears Plaza Rio.

Visit Mercado Hidalgo for mexican candy and groceries.

Eat NY Style pizza at Tony's in La Cacho.

Gregyyr
09-29-21, 03:23
I mostly monger in Europe and Canada. I've been to Tijuana once. I had a good time, but I hardly got any sexy time.

I went to eat at Telefonica Gastropark, walked down Avenida Revolucion, stopped for a bite at Caesars, and sampled the tacos on the corner of Coahulia and Ninos Heroes.

I went into Hong Kong to take a look. The girls were pretty, but it wasn't exactly my scene. A little too loud, a little too much hustle, I felt like a mark in a casino. I watched a pretty hot dildo show on the fifth floor.

My hotel was outside the zona norte though, and the next day I went to Playas and took a walk around.

What should I do to have a more sexy experience this time?

I guess I can book a room in a local hotel, Ticuan or Cascadas? I guess Cascadas would let me get takeout from the clubs better? I read the girls won't go to Ticuan unless they know you, so Ticuan would be a choice for escorts? I like the escort model better ... more straightforward, and less hustle, and I read Cascadas is kind of noisy for sleeping.

If I go the club route for girls, do I have to sit around screening the talent in the club with interviews and buying them drinks (at what cost) or will just tipping them do? Should I have grabbed the two from the hot dildo show right off the set as they were going back to get washed up? I have a feeling once they see the desire in your eyes they know they can raise the price.Sounds like you hit a few of the interesting spots.

Yes, clubs are loud and packed later at night. I find earlier in the day they are not as loud or packed so a bit more comfortable. Best time is say 4:30 - 7:30 pm. It's getting busier so many girls, but not packed yet but has a great vibe.

Visit Adelita's and Tropical for a drink. Not as good as HK but still interesting and can find some nice girls to flirt with etc.

Need to visit Mercado Hildago 5 minutes from Hong Kong. Big market to wander around and I think it's a nice experience more locals do etc.

Rio Mall is nice to wander through and while it's like any USA outdoor mall. I still enjoyed seeing it for the first times.

The dog race track and casino is worth a trip. 10 minutes from Hong Kong. The inside bar overlooks the track and it's nice to check out. You won't find dog racing in US so it's unique!

Yes, Playas is worth a trip over to check out the border where the border is at the beach.

Taco's El Franc has great ambiance and not bad taco's. Anyone I have taken there has Loved the experience. (it's near Rio Mall and 5 minutes from downtown).

Tijuana History Museum (it's better than the big glob museum IMO). It's 3 blocks from Hong Kong and has great images from Tijuana history.

https://imac.tijuana.gob.mx/index.aspx

Bring earplugs if you stay at Cascadas. Ask for a room away from the stairs where the noise travels up and down the stairwell.

I would like to try a soapy bath house sometime. I have not done that.

Going to a Toro's baseball game on a Friday or Saturday night is an "experience" they tell me. I need to do that.

I did research and a web site for a Tijuana tour company a couple years ago so spent a few trips researching possible interesting Tijuana locations for tours.

Have a jolly good time.

G.

HellBoyX
09-29-21, 04:46
You already did all the main intriguing things. In fact 90% guys don't do more than HK and maybe a walk on revolucion. It's not worth the trip unless the Mexican culture itself intrigues you, for you anyway since you didn't get satisfied with the sex and HK scene. If your already bored of Mexico or need to find extra things in Tijuana to make it worth while then it's probably best to stay home. I read that Asian massage parlor busts are down like 98% and they are opening more and more due to decriminalization in NYC. There is other options. Personally I like hanging out in all the bars on revolucion so for me the trip would be worth it.Also there is a casino at the Hotel Pueblo Amigo? They have table games as well. The food is pretty good if you go looking as well.

Jmioffe
09-29-21, 11:57
Play a round of golf at Club Campestre.

Shop for a leather jacket.

Purchase duty free perfume for "loved ones" at Sears Plaza Rio.

Visit Mercado Hidalgo for mexican candy and groceries.

Eat NY Style pizza at Tony's in La Cacho.All good ideas, thanks! But what about P4 P?

Do I have to be in the club throwing around $1 bills until I find a girl that I like, and then make sure she's not overcharging me for a session?

Is it $1 for a drink, $1 to the mesero, and she hangs around for 10 minutes? Is it $60 for 45 minutes in Cascadas, covered?

Things are a lot more standardized in the FKK scene. You only pay for club entry and it's 50 euros for 30 minutes (but lately it's been going to 100 euros).

In Canada, prices are stated 250 CAD, 1 hour. You take your chances with the girl when you show up at an incall but they've generally been prescreened and meet a good service level.

Artisttyp
09-29-21, 18:56
All good ideas, thanks! But what about P4 P?

Order an escort to meet you in your hotel room afterwards.

Jmioffe
09-29-21, 20:41
Excellent ideas! Another recommendation for Mercado Hildago. That, dog racing and the baseball game sound like things I'd be interested in -- as well as the recommendation for another taco place! Thank you.

What are the rates that I should expect 4:30 pm to 7:30 pm? $1 to the mesero to get me a girl, $5 for the girl to have a drink with me (this could get expensive, no? Interview 10 girls and you're out $50).

Then off to a short- or long-time room at Cascadas... looks like $60-$120, average of about $100, for 45 minutes, no tip? Great tip on getting a quiet Cascadas room BTW.

I thought this thread was helpful: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2231-Hong-Kong-Club-Reports&p=2606507&viewfull=1#post2606507

Any recommendations for a soapy bath house?


Sounds like you hit a few of the interesting spots.
...
G.

Jmioffe
09-29-21, 20:42
Order an escort to meet you in your hotel room afterwards.Is there a girl or agency you'd recommend?

Artisttyp
09-29-21, 21:31
Is there a girl or agency you'd recommend?YES. It has all been documented on the Tijuana Escorts thread.

Jmioffe
09-29-21, 21:35
YES. It has all been documented on the Tijuana Escorts thread.Oops! Sorry, I will do some more research.

Baxter Slade
09-29-21, 23:40
What are the rates that I should expect 4:30 pm to 7:30 pm? $1 to the mesero to get me a girl, $5 for the girl to have a drink with me (this could get expensive, no? Interview 10 girls and you're out $50). Where did you get $5 lady drinks from? If you are talking HK they were $9 but they just raised the price to $10. And if you go to a shitty bar you will be lucky to find $8 lady drinks.

Phazze93
09-30-21, 03:44
Where did you get $5 lady drinks from? If you are talking HK they were $9 but they just raised the price to $10. And if you go to a shitty bar you will be lucky to find $8 lady drinks.Was it just raised to $10 in HK? I was just there and its $9 + $1 expected tip to mesero.

Phazze93
09-30-21, 03:49
Planning on heading back down for 2nd trip in a few weeks. Are there any recommended spots for parking your car overnight for 72+ hours? Without paying $20-40+ a night.

Last time I was there Wed night - Fri morning and I just parked a trolley station no problem. However from what I can find, it doesn't seem recommended to park at a trolley station for more than 48-72 hours.

Planning on being there Sun night - Wed morning.

Appreciate any tips.

OrganicAlo
09-30-21, 05:00
Planning on heading back down for 2nd trip in a few weeks. Are there any recommended spots for parking your car overnight for 72+ hours? Without paying $20-40+ a night.

Last time I was there Wed night - Fri morning and I just parked a trolley station no problem. However from what I can find, it doesn't seem recommended to park at a trolley station for more than 48-72 hours.

Planning on being there Sun night - Wed morning.

Appreciate any tips.Two spots, you can find it on google maps "Holiday Lodge Motel" $10/ day but it's dumpy and I've had my car scratched up before there. Right next door though is a new spot that opened up in the last year that also charges $10/ day and is much nicer.

Gregyyr
09-30-21, 06:32
All good ideas, thanks! But what about P4 P?

Do I have to be in the club throwing around $1 bills until I find a girl that I like, and then make sure she's not overcharging me for a session?

Is it $1 for a drink, $1 to the mesero, and she hangs around for 10 minutes? Is it $60 for 45 minutes in Cascadas, covered?

Things are a lot more standardized in the FKK scene. You only pay for club entry and it's 50 euros for 30 minutes (but lately it's been going to 100 euros).

In Canada, prices are stated 250 CAD, 1 hour. You take your chances with the girl when you show up at an incall but they've generally been prescreened and meet a good service level.While you can get change down there I normally stop at the bank up in the US and get a wad of $1 bills. At times the bars do run out of just giving out change for a $20 etc.

I have found browsing the bar giving out $1's to grope the girls I like is a good introduction to see if there is any chemistry. The mesero's will be on you quick asking if you want to buy her a drink, just say not yet or something to get them off your tail for another few minutes if your just seeing if there is any chemistry. Yes. You can blow through $10 fairly quickly but its so wonderful to grope the girls with a little sample of there body just to experience a bit of their bodies with out needing to take them upstairs.

For those you find a little chemistry. You can have a drink for the $9 or $10. I have not done but heard others have. When the girl is done with their drink and the mesero asks if you want to buy her another drink, you could say no thank you. And when he leaves ask her if she just wants $5 to stick around a bit longer. If you do this upstairs where there are less mesero's you may get some extra time with her. We all need to support the club and buy drinks of course. But it could give the girl more money and you get more time with her. Just a thought.

G.

Fmojo
09-30-21, 07:00
Planning on heading back down for 2nd trip in a few weeks. Are there any recommended spots for parking your car overnight for 72+ hours? Without paying $20-40+ a night.

Last time I was there Wed night - Fri morning and I just parked a trolley station no problem. However from what I can find, it doesn't seem recommended to park at a trolley station for more than 48-72 hours.

Planning on being there Sun night - Wed morning.

Appreciate any tips.Another option worth considering is Otay. Very safe lots and parking is $10 a night Sun-Thu. It's about a $6 Uber ride from there to the Zona.

Dogers69
09-30-21, 17:22
Another option worth considering is Otay. Very safe lots and parking is $10 a night Sun-Thu. It's about a $6 Uber ride from there to the Zona.I park in point Loma or Ocean beach and take the bus to the trolley if parking for multiple days. Bus is hassle full of homeless who smell but I like to park in safe neighborhoods and you can park for 3 days in San Diego before they are allowed to tow you. Actually now I have a paid parking monthly spot I keep but before I found that this was what I did. The car will likely be broken into no matter where you leave it if you leave anything at all that a homeless person may want from a sweater to 25 cents. There's no jail time for these crimes in California it's acceptable behavior for them.

Phazze93
09-30-21, 18:31
Another option worth considering is Otay. Very safe lots and parking is $10 a night Sun-Thu. It's about a $6 Uber ride from there to the Zona.Otay Mesa just before the border on USA side right? Can the uber take me across the border?? Assuming ID need to walk across right? In which case I can just take a cab $5 to HK?

HellBoyX
09-30-21, 19:49
When I was in the military, our first trip to Tijuana as young 19 year old men was a bit wild. This was back in like early 2008 so probably not applicable but I remember when we crossed the boarder, we wanted to go to Adelitas and the driver told us that they were closed. We knew that was a scam, and insisted on him taking us there anyways. Because we did not know where we were going, or where it even was, or how long it would take to get there. I remember us being driven around a bit to a residential neighborhood near the boarder, and taken to a house. The guy promised we were fine and safe, and just wanted to show us something before going to Tijuana. We were 3 military guys so I felt like we were kind of safe. So we followed him inside. Once we got in, we were sat down on a couch and given a line up of about 15 girls. Some of which were IMO stunning. We did not partake because we just could not get comfortable, and he did indeed take us to Adelitas.

The drive was not more than 10 minutes MAX. I am just wondering if this is really even a thing anymore, and if so. How does one find it again? I am sure its more risky. I totally get that. I was just wondering if anyone else has had experience with this, and if they knew what I was talking about. Thanks in advance and stay safe!

BrotherMouzone
09-30-21, 21:19
Planning on heading back down for 2nd trip in a few weeks. Are there any recommended spots for parking your car overnight for 72+ hours? Without paying $20-40+ a night.

Last time I was there Wed night - Fri morning and I just parked a trolley station no problem. However from what I can find, it doesn't seem recommended to park at a trolley station for more than 48-72 hours.

Planning on being there Sun night - Wed morning.

Appreciate any tips.Never tried it myself but maybe look into the Caltrans Park and Ride lot in Chula Vista or National City. Though 24-hour parking isn't recommended you can apparently park in these lots for up to 72 hours without having to worry about being ticketed or towed per state law. Parking is free, though in theory is intended for those using alternative forms of transportation from those lots (e. G. , rideshare, Amtrak, bus, etc.). I'm guessing a lot less cars are parked in these lots overnight relative to the MTS 24-hour lots so overnight cars might stick out more. Both for criminals / thieves and security looking to enforce parking after 72+ hours.

Some info here: https://dot.ca.gov/caltrans-near-me/district-11/programs/district-11-planning-local-assistance/district-11-park-ride-program.

Again, I've never used it as I've never had to leave a car in San Diego over 2 days or so but might be worth looking into if you're in the 48-72 hour time range.

Also note that residential street parking in San Diego is free for up to 72 hours so you could maybe find a somewhat close neighborhood you're comfortable with that has free parking and try to park there. For residential street parking it's very highly unlikely the 72-hour rule will be strictly enforced.

Phordphan
09-30-21, 21:44
Otay Mesa just before the border on USA side right? Can the uber take me across the border?? Assuming ID need to walk across right? In which case I can just take a cab $5 to HK?There are no ride share services that will cross the border. You'll need your passport and have to walk.

The cabs from Otay are not $5. Uber's the best bet. The gold / white taxis are the worst bet. A taxi libre will be in the middle. Probably in the $10 range.

Cocr Brotheler
10-01-21, 01:12
Airport parking is $32 for the day. Maybe there are some private lots that charge less near the trolley line or similar in downtown?

I usually fly in and stay in a hotel so don't have a car to park.

Gregyyr
10-01-21, 04:30
I can catch a free ride with guys from work who live in Tijuana so I am thinking about going down for a few hours this Friday after 4 pm if anyone's down there and want to hook up message me.

G.

Gregyyr
10-01-21, 15:04
Planning on heading back down for 2nd trip in a few weeks. Are there any recommended spots for parking your car overnight for 72+ hours? Without paying $20-40+ a night.

Last time I was there Wed night - Fri morning and I just parked a trolley station no problem. However from what I can find, it doesn't seem recommended to park at a trolley station for more than 48-72 hours.

Planning on being there Sun night - Wed morning.

Appreciate any tips.Other thing I have done is find a nice neighborhood 10 minutes from the border. Park your car on the street and call uber to get a lift to the border.

I did a weekend trip down to Mexico this way and it saved me a few bucks.

G.

Fmojo
10-02-21, 05:15
There are no ride share services that will cross the border. You'll need your passport and have to walk.

The cabs from Otay are not $5. Uber's the best bet. The gold / white taxis are the worst bet. A taxi libre will be in the middle. Probably in the $10 range.Phordphan is right. The gold / white taxis are the closest to the entrance and the most expensive. It's $18 to Centro. If you walk down the street to get a taxi libre, it's $10. Uber is about $6 but you also have to walk down the street and I've had to wait up to 15 minutes.

BrockStar
10-02-21, 10:43
While you can get change down there I normally stop at the bank up in the US and get a wad of $1 bills. At times the bars do run out of just giving out change for a $20 etc.

I have found browsing the bar giving out $1's to grope the girls I like is a good introduction to see if there is any chemistry. The mesero's will be on you quick asking if you want to buy her a drink, just say not yet or something to get them off your tail for another few minutes if your just seeing if there is any chemistry. Yes. You can blow through $10 fairly quickly but its so wonderful to grope the girls with a little sample of there body just to experience a bit of their bodies with out needing to take them upstairs.

For those you find a little chemistry. You can have a drink for the $9 or $10. I have not done but heard others have. When the girl is done with their drink and the mesero asks if you want to buy her another drink, you could say no thank you. And when he leaves ask her if she just wants $5 to stick around a bit longer. If you do this upstairs where there are less mesero's you may get some extra time with her. We all need to support the club and buy drinks of course. But it could give the girl more money and you get more time with her. Just a thought.

G.I'm more about slipping 20 P notes to a gal onstage or walking by than I am lady drinks. Its a cheap thrill, kinda like a peep show, but way better. Its also a great way to pre-screen them and get a good feel if she's friendly or not to see if I'd consider getting her a lady drink.

Going to go to the Zona tomorrow night, kinda late probably going to get there at around midnight (I live in Tijuana and work grave yard so I'm very much night owl). If anyone's' down to grab a drink, swap stories, pinch fannies, etc. Etc. I'm down.

BrotherMouzone
10-03-21, 03:30
Is there anything else do you recommend that I do on my visit? It seemed like some bars in the area had some interesting live mariachi-type music and there was a bullfighting ring in Playas. Is it possible to pick up civilians there?

Thanks!Just some of the places I go to while I'm out there (most recently just last week):

If you like breweries, Tijuana has a shitload of breweries where you can try cheap, but very solid craft beer. My favorites are Lúdica Artesanal, Border Psycho, and Norte Brewing (the latter two are within walking distance from Zona Norte off Revolucion). I like to hang out in the breweries, most of them also serve good food.

El Museo is a restaurant not too far from the Arch on Revolucion with great margaritas and very good food.

Giuseppis is a solid Italian restaurant chain. One of their locations is on Revolucion. Last week I had a good-sized plate of spaghetti and meatballs with lemonade for 120 pesos ($6).

Favorite taco spots: taco stand around the block from HK, Tacos El Franc (Zona Rio), Taconanzo (Zona Rio), Tacos Casa Sonora (Playas. They feature delicious bbq rib tacos and ribeye tacos). Tacos Casa Sonora and Tacos El Franc are currently my favorites.

Favorite non-taco food spots: Churrasco do Brasil, Mr. Pampas, Las Espadanas. All are in Zona Rio. First two are all you can eat Brazilian steakhouses where you'll pay like a third of the price you'd pay at a comparable steakhouse in the States.

There are numerous small Caliente casinos throughout Tijuana, including one in Zona Norte (alley across from HK). But the biggest, nicest one is the one off Agua Caliente next to the soccer stadium and dog track. I'd recommend checking that one out.

The CECUT is Zona Rio is worth checking out at least once. I found the Museo de las Californias exhibit interesting (spent a couple hours looking through it. Basically a history of Baja California) and it only cost $2.

You can get down to Rosarito, which has a slightly nicer beach than the one in Tijuana, for as cheap as 22.50 pesos ($1. 25) is you're willing to take the taxi de ruta shared taxi out there. I've used it a few times with no issue. Real easy to get back and forth between Tijuana and Rosarito that way. I believe there's even a route out to Ensanada but haven't figured that one out yet.

Hadez
10-03-21, 03:48
This is a very good point. It sounds simple but there are signs given off by a girl getting $1 tips. I will usually hold multiple 1's (as much as I am willing to tip her) and see how she reacts to getting tips. I have actually seen a girl not even make eye contact or make effort to get the tip. She did come by after the stage dance but it felt weird so I passed. Have also seen girls willing to take my finger and rub it on their pussy. Over the years a couple girls have put my finger in their pussy.

The varying degree in which a girl responds to the tip can lead to indications about how much fun she will be in the room.


While you can get change down there I normally stop at the bank up in the US and get a wad of $1 bills. At times the bars do run out of just giving out change for a $20 etc.

I have found browsing the bar giving out $1's to grope the girls I like is a good introduction to see if there is any chemistry. The mesero's will be on you quick asking if you want to buy her a drink, just say not yet or something to get them off your tail for another few minutes if your just seeing if there is any chemistry. Yes. You can blow through $10 fairly quickly but its so wonderful to grope the girls with a little sample of there body just to experience a bit of their bodies with out needing to take them upstairs.

For those you find a little chemistry. You can have a drink for the $9 or $10. I have not done but heard others have. When the girl is done with their drink and the mesero asks if you want to buy her another drink, you could say no thank you. And when he leaves ask her if she just wants $5 to stick around a bit longer. If you do this upstairs where there are less mesero's you may get some extra time with her. We all need to support the club and buy drinks of course. But it could give the girl more money and you get more time with her. Just a thought.

G.

BrotherMouzone
10-03-21, 04:03
Just came back from Tijuana earlier this week. Pretty good trip. Main thing I noticed was security at the entrances of the hotels and clubs is a bit tighter than the last time I was down here (back in May), especially for HK, Adelitas, and Tropical. At Cascadas they will search your bags / luggage, which they never used to do before. They were doing searches the last time I was there but the searches are less half-assed than they used to be (though are still mostly half-assed).

Also noticed at Adelitas a lot of turnover from the girls I saw just this past May. Only recognized a couple of girls. Many of the girls are from non-Mexican Latin American countries like Colombia, Venezuela, Dominican Republic, etc. Seems they got rid of a lot of the older women I recognized for years.

For the girls that conceal their line of work at the clubs, I wonder how good they really are at hiding it all from their relatives? Was speaking to a girl at HK. She's in her 30's and from Sonora, but now lives in Tijuana with her mom and teenaged daughter. She spoke fairly good English and said she was in graduate school in Tijuana (might've been law, can't remember). She says no one in her family. Including her mom and daughter who live with her in Tijuana. Know she works at HK and if they did she would be beyond horrified. She tells them she works late at a regular nightclub on the other side of Tijuana and also uses being immersed in her studies as an excuse for why she's out at late hours. But I don't know. While she's a little bit older. She's a woman with a very curvy body, enhanced with implants in her ass and tits. If I took one look at her on the street even in regular clothes, I'd suspect she's a sex worker just in the way she looks LOL. She's very adamant her family has no clue but just wondering how true that can be and how long she's be able to keep that kind of secret. Her family obviously knows her well and I would think might be able to figure it out. She also mentioned having to leave work early very recently once because she saw someone she knew from Sonora at HK and didn't want that person to recognize her.

Artisttyp
10-03-21, 04:13
Just came back from Tijuana earlier this week. Pretty good trip. Main thing I noticed was security at the entrances of the hotels and clubs is a bit tighter than the last time I was down here (back in May), especially for HK, Adelitas, and Tropical. At Cascadas they will search your bags / luggage, which they never used to do before. They were doing searches the last time I was there but the searches are less half-assed than they used to be (though are still mostly half-assed).
So when you check-in to Cascadas now for a reservation someone opens up your suitcase and does a search? Do they search the person as well?

BrotherMouzone
10-03-21, 04:32
So when you check-in to Cascadas now for a reservation someone opens up your suitcase and does a search? Do they search the person as well?Yeah. I was there for 5 days this past week so brought a decent sized luggage bag. They opened it up and went through it a bit, feeling through my clothes and looking through the various compartments in my luggage. They also searched the backpack I had. Honestly, it wasn't the most thorough search. It's more of a skim than really searching through every little thing like TSA might do at a secondary airport screening. But they are searching all bags. Search might've been 20-30 seconds at the most.

Yeah, they search the person as well but the person search is similar to how they search anyone entering the HK club. Take all metal out (including cellphone), walk through the screener, and they pat you down if the metal screener sounds. You can leave your wallet in your pocket if you want (I always did) though I image that could set off the detector depending on what you have in it. They never made me take my wallet out of my pocket though, even when I set off the metal detector.

Artisttyp
10-03-21, 07:11
Yeah. I was there for 5 days this past week so brought a decent sized luggage bag. They opened it up and went through it a bit, feeling through my clothes and looking through the various compartments in my luggage. They also searched the backpack I had. Honestly, it wasn't the most thorough search. It's more of a skim than really searching through every little thing like TSA might do at a secondary airport screening. But they are searching all bags. Search might've been 20-30 seconds at the most.

Yeah, they search the person as well but the person search is similar to how they search anyone entering the HK club. Take all metal out (including cellphone), walk through the screener, and they pat you down if the metal screener sounds. You can leave your wallet in your pocket if you want (I always did) though I image that could set off the detector depending on what you have in it. They never made me take my wallet out of my pocket though, even when I set off the metal detector.I appreciate the feedback. Thank You.

Definitely something to consider when packing.

ActionJacks220
10-03-21, 17:15
How long have been the average waits been to cross back over the pedestrian line on a Friday early afternoon? When is the best time (during the day) to cross back?

Hadez
10-03-21, 17:36
A girl was stabbed and killed in Adelitas Hotel walkway this spring and since then the security has gone up. Not sure if it is still available but I saw the video on the internet. A terrible thing. Hope the guy is getting ass raped in Mexican jail multiple times a day.

I go to check in with a bag of cloths and other stuff plus 1-2 bags from the pharmacy I just went to. Yes they go through all the bags.

They do not search your person but expect a pat down and there are metal detectors going inside Cascadas and HK. I have learned over the months what sets them off and put these items in the same pocket. Put the things that set off the metal detectors in a plastic bin and they happy. They will ask you put everything in the bin. Last weekend they did seem to be more closely monitoring areas people may hide drugs that were not searched before. Think the areas they were searching were too small for weapons but who knows. Not every door man did this.

All the clubs do some kind of pat down. What annoys me about the patdowns is at Adelitas they seem to find your wallet in the patdown and grab their hand around it trying to feel how much cash you have. I do not notice anything weird about the patdown at any other club or hotel.


So when you check-in to Cascadas now for a reservation someone opens up your suitcase and does a search? Do they search the person as well?

ZeroDc4213
10-03-21, 20:24
I want to go to Tijuana more often but I'm sick of the long line back to cross the border.

What is the best time of day and day of the week to avoid those lines?

Fmojo
10-04-21, 01:27
How long have been the average waits been to cross back over the pedestrian line on a Friday early afternoon? When is the best time (during the day) to cross back?I crossed into the US on foot from Otay on Friday at 1230 p. There was no line.

Dogers69
10-04-21, 01:27
I want to go to Tijuana more often but I'm sick of the long line back to cross the border.

What is the best time of day and day of the week to avoid those lines?Sunday mornings around 8, 9 am were quiet in August. But it's not reliable because it's up to the staff. Only semi reliable time is probably after 7 pm to 2 am. I would say in this time frame, 90% of the time it's under an hour. Remember if your a senior looking person you can go to the senior line 3 feet to the right and that's very quick.

Fmojo
10-04-21, 01:29
I want to go to Tijuana more often but I'm sick of the long line back to cross the border.

What is the best time of day and day of the week to avoid those lines?Since the pandemic, crossing in San Ysidro is a crapshoot. It might take 20 minutes or it might take 4 hours.

Either get a GE / Sentri card or cross in Otay.

PokerLover11
10-04-21, 02:24
Since the pandemic, crossing in San Ysidro is a crapshoot. It might take 20 minutes or it might take 4 hours.

Either get a GE / Sentri card or cross in Otay.It won't be a crapshoot come Nov 1 when 30 to 40% CBP resign because of the vaccine mandate, we are looking at 4 HR to 8 HR if not closed completely.

Rainman306
10-04-21, 03:53
For those who have global entry, where does the cab drop you off?

How do you navigate walking past everyone else who is in line who may not be aware of what global entry is?

HenryDag
10-04-21, 04:29
For those who have global entry, where does the cab drop you off?

How do you navigate walking past everyone else who is in line who may not be aware of what global entry is?There's no special drop-off point. The cab drops you off at PedEast / San Ysidro in the same place regardless of whether you have global entry or not. It's basically right behind the bridge over the traffic lanes, about 200 feet from where you enter Mexico.

If you have Global Entry / Sentri, just stay to the right of the line and walk to the front where the metal gates are, show your card to pass the gates, then continue staying all the way to the right until you see the Sentri entrance to the main customs building. It's pretty easy now since you're mostly walking past storefronts that are always kept clear and for all anybody knows you're headed to one of the little stores or farmacias next to the border rather than line-cutting.

In reality, though, all the awkwardness is just in your head: 95% of the people in line are in line all the time and know all about Sentri access. I've never gotten nasty or confused looks from anybody, even at the old PedWest crossing where you often had to ask people to get out of your way so that you could pass them.

Phazze93
10-04-21, 05:34
Hey all, sry to sound like a broken record, but still working on getting my passport renewed.

Considering last time I might have gotten lucky and not had to pay the $20 bribe to cross by simply 'forgetting' my passport. What are the rules around trying to cross with an expired one?

Passport expired back in June. If I present the passport and say SORRY I just noticed my passport is expired. Would they still let me cross? Or is it really just better to pretend like I forgot mine?

Gregyyr
10-04-21, 06:52
I want to go to Tijuana more often but I'm sick of the long line back to cross the border.

What is the best time of day and day of the week to avoid those lines?Go to this web site and check the average times etc. Realize weekends will be different than any week day averages etc.

https://bwt.cbp.gov/details/09250401/PED

G.

Hargow20
10-04-21, 07:51
I find the prices in Tijuana a bit odd & irritating as compared to other countries. Seems strange that the most of the girls charge $100 min for anything. But in Europe you pay $20-$50 for a 15 or 30 minute session with a girl. Now Mexico is far poorer country so you would think that the prices would be more reasonable. My guess is that since Tijuana is close to the border that the majority of the guys are tourists in the Zona. But Amsterdam gets primarily tourists and the window girls are not charging $100 min.

ThingStick
10-04-21, 10:46
Hey all, sry to sound like a broken record, but still working on getting my passport renewed.

Considering last time I might have gotten lucky and not had to pay the $20 bribe to cross by simply 'forgetting' my passport. What are the rules around trying to cross with an expired one?

Passport expired back in June. If I present the passport and say SORRY I just noticed my passport is expired. Would they still let me cross? Or is it really just better to pretend like I forgot mine?Why would you even think about doing this in the current state of the world. Just wait.

Jackie888
10-04-21, 15:03
I find the prices in Tijuana a bit odd & irritating as compared to other countries. Seems strange that the most of the girls charge $100 min for anything. But in Europe you pay $20-$50 for a 15 or 30 minute session with a girl. Now Mexico is far poorer country so you would think that the prices would be more reasonable. My guess is that since Tijuana is close to the border that the majority of the guys are tourists in the Zona. But Amsterdam gets primarily tourists and the window girls are not charging $100 min.I think we have a lot of fools scared to death and completely ignorant of the Negotiated Mexican cash economy. So when a chica starts with an outrageous price, she expected the fool to lowball her. Instead of negotiating, he either walks away or agrees to her outrageous price. Amsterdam isn't primary a negotiation economy.

Phazze93
10-04-21, 18:15
Why would you even think about doing this in the current state of the world. Just wait.What do you mean?.

BrotherMouzone
10-04-21, 18:41
Hey all, sry to sound like a broken record, but still working on getting my passport renewed.

Considering last time I might have gotten lucky and not had to pay the $20 bribe to cross by simply 'forgetting' my passport. What are the rules around trying to cross with an expired one?

Passport expired back in June. If I present the passport and say SORRY I just noticed my passport is expired. Would they still let me cross? Or is it really just better to pretend like I forgot mine?The rules would be the same as the last time you crossed. Technically you're not allowed to cross the border with an expired passport but Mexican customs pretty much always lets you cross with a $20/$30 bribe. It seems you were somehow able to cross the last time without paying anything so would just try the same strategy you tried the last time and see what happens. Am very surprised they let you cross the last time without paying a bribe but maybe they're getting more lax on that or maybe you just got lucky and crossed at the right time I don't know. But your worst case scenario is you'll just have to pay a bribe. Wouldn't worry about not getting in.

Technically, the passport is also supposed to be valid (non-expired) coming back into the USA But my experience there (having crossed twice with a recently expired passport last year during the height of COVID) is that USA Customs doesn't care if the passport is expired. They just scan it and let you through most of the time without saying anything. There is a chance USA Customs sends you to secondary though.

SeaBeeJoe
10-04-21, 19:15
I find the prices in Tijuana a bit odd & irritating as compared to other countries. Seems strange that the most of the girls charge $100 min for anything. But in Europe you pay $20-$50 for a 15 or 30 minute session with a girl. Now Mexico is far poorer country so you would think that the prices would be more reasonable. My guess is that since Tijuana is close to the border that the majority of the guys are tourists in the Zona. But Amsterdam gets primarily tourists and the window girls are not charging $100 min.It is because those latinas are greedy fucking putas. Don't compare Europe to Mexico it isn't even close. That and the HK cartel indoctrinates the new girls on what they should charge. It is all an evil empire! It is all "pay to play".

Dogers69
10-04-21, 19:43
I find the prices in Tijuana a bit odd & irritating as compared to other countries. Seems strange that the most of the girls charge $100 min for anything. But in Europe you pay $20-$50 for a 15 or 30 minute session with a girl. Now Mexico is far poorer country so you would think that the prices would be more reasonable. My guess is that since Tijuana is close to the border that the majority of the guys are tourists in the Zona. But Amsterdam gets primarily tourists and the window girls are not charging $100 min.Well everything blew up price wise in Tijuana maybe 6 months before covid and has continued to increase about 15 to 30% a year, depending on what you are talking about. From VIP card, 6 month visitor pass fees into Mexico, hotel Cascadas prices, decreased discounts with VIP card, lap dance increased couple dollars, hotels on revolution increased. It's a rich mans game now. Seriously if you go every week you better be rich. I used to go with 40 bucks three years ago and get sex and hotel beers and meal.

Phazze93
10-04-21, 20:27
The rules would be the same as the last time you crossed. Technically you're not allowed to cross the border with an expired passport but Mexican customs pretty much always lets you cross with a $20/$30 bribe. It seems you were somehow able to cross the last time without paying anything so would just try the same strategy you tried the last time and see what happens. Am very surprised they let you cross the last time without paying a bribe but maybe they're getting more lax on that or maybe you just got lucky and crossed at the right time I don't know. But your worst case scenario is you'll just have to pay a bribe. Wouldn't worry about not getting in.

Technically, the passport is also supposed to be valid (non-expired) coming back into the USA But my experience there (having crossed twice with a recently expired passport last year during the height of COVID) is that USA Customs doesn't care if the passport is expired. They just scan it and let you through most of the time without saying anything. There is a chance USA Customs sends you to secondary though.Appreciate it. I figured as much. Ugh I hate that my passport is expired LOL. The rare problem to face and unfortunate that it had to happen during covid.

What happens in secondary if USA customs sends me there on my way back to USA?

Do I get fined? Or is it more of a way to prove that I'm a citizen?

Hargow20
10-04-21, 20:33
Some of the girls in Hk are more willing to negotiate during the day.


I think we have a lot of fools scared to death and completely ignorant of the Negotiated Mexican cash economy. So when a chica starts with an outrageous price, she expected the fool to lowball her. Instead of negotiating, he either walks away or agrees to her outrageous price. Amsterdam isn't primary a negotiation economy.

BrockStar
10-04-21, 22:50
I find the prices in Tijuana a bit odd & irritating as compared to other countries. Seems strange that the most of the girls charge $100 min for anything. But in Europe you pay $20-$50 for a 15 or 30 minute session with a girl. Now Mexico is far poorer country so you would think that the prices would be more reasonable. My guess is that since Tijuana is close to the border that the majority of the guys are tourists in the Zona. But Amsterdam gets primarily tourists and the window girls are not charging $100 min.Not only haggle, but be cavalier about it. From my personal experience, chicks always seem to start at 100. Respond with 60. You'd be surprised how many will say OK.

BrotherMouzone
10-05-21, 01:28
Appreciate it. I figured as much. Ugh I hate that my passport is expired LOL. The rare problem to face and unfortunate that it had to happen during covid.

What happens in secondary if USA customs sends me there on my way back to USA?

Do I get fined? Or is it more of a way to prove that I'm a citizen?No, you'd never get fined for trying to cross with an expired passport LOL. They'd just put you though additional procedures to prove you're a citizen. I've never been through it myself but have heard it can take anywhere from a few minutes to perhaps a couple of hours or more.

Yeah, my passport expired just last spring (2020) during the height of COVID which was a real pain. But I applied for renewal late last year when processing times got back closer to normal and had the renewed passport back in time for my next trip. So maybe if you don't plan on going back for a long time, try to re-apply right after you come back from this trip. Worst case, if you really want to go to Tijuana during the processing time, take your driver's license, explain that your passport is in the process of being renewed (which is actually the truth), and just pay the bribe. They'll still let you in from what I've heard.

Rainman306
10-05-21, 01:37
I am finding that a VIP room purchase in Zona Norte is becoming a good value. Depending on how much they charge. I prefer a half hours time.

Poor sessions in the hotel are becoming too much for me to absorb. I feel you will get more in a VIP room that just a fischa and your likely to get a lot more time. I've done everything from making out to fingering to BBBJ (though this is becoming less common).

I'm most familiar with Tropical bar's VIP. It's 45 USD for 30 minutes, an extra 5 USD will get you an extra 10-15 minutes. Bigger tips may get you longer. Dancing, fondling, kissing are usually no extra tip. Fingering or a hand job may be 20 USD. BBBJ seems to be a 40 USD tip.

The girl will stay with you afterwards to finish the bucket of beers. Hint. Have your own drink, don't drink the fischa beers.

Dogers69
10-05-21, 01:45
I am finding that a VIP room purchase in Zona Norte is becoming a good value. Depending on how much they charge. I prefer a half hours time.

Poor sessions in the hotel are becoming too much for me to absorb. I feel you will get more in a VIP room that just a fischa and your likely to get a lot more time. I've done everything from making out to fingering to BBBJ (though this is becoming less common).

I'm most familiar with Tropical bar's VIP. It's 45 USD for 30 minutes, an extra 5 USD will get you an extra 10-15 minutes. Bigger tips may get you longer. Dancing, fondling, kissing are usually no extra tip. Fingering or a hand job may be 20 USD. BBBJ seems to be a 40 USD tip.

The girl will stay with you afterwards to finish the bucket of beers. Hint. Have your own drink, don't drink the fischa beers.I definitely agree. I mean BBBJ beats condom sex anyway for me. Plus in VIP room you got the party atmosphere the music everyone is having fun. You go to the room you got to deal with getting to room paying for the room worrying if the sheets were changed, then its CBJ condom sex usually no kissing, they gona ask for tip after since so many of you tip after already paying for sex. My 1st hour in Mexico ever, 6 years ago, I was in HK lap dance room and although I went to just see it, I ended up having sex in that room. Before you go to VIP room though you need to see if she's any good at her niche. Some girls will be duds.

ClownDays
10-05-21, 03:50
Hey all, sry to sound like a broken record, but still working on getting my passport renewed.

Considering last time I might have gotten lucky and not had to pay the $20 bribe to cross by simply 'forgetting' my passport. What are the rules around trying to cross with an expired one?

Passport expired back in June. If I present the passport and say SORRY I just noticed my passport is expired. Would they still let me cross? Or is it really just better to pretend like I forgot mine?You should be fine. They're just going to give you crap about it not being current. I know someone who regularly crosses between Tijuana and San Diego with a very expired passport, and just gets a bit of extra hassle. You'll probably be asked for extra ID, so just make sure your Driver's License is one of those that meets the Federal Requirements. Attempt to eliminate the amount of things they can give you crap about, and don't get pissy with them, and they'll let you through.

I crossed with someone who had recently bought a car, the registration had expired, and they hadn't done the transfer, because they could not get it smogged. CBP gave us a bunch of crap, and sent us to inspection, but after that, they cut us loose.

Big Magick
10-05-21, 06:16
It is because those latinas are greedy fucking putas. Don't compare Europe to Mexico it isn't even close. That and the HK cartel indoctrinates the new girls on what they should charge. It is all an evil empire! It is all "pay to play".A HK girl asked me for 130 $ HH lmao I didn't give it to her. Many girls say they are told to quote high prices like that. Europe sounds like a dream, so does Colombia. Price wise at least. I use to hate negotiating because it t does kill the mood but this is getting out of hand. I had a Chicago girl for 60 $ HH. 50-60 $ maybe 80 for the really hot ones is what prices should be.

Captain Solo
10-05-21, 07:52
CB Joe.

All HK girls are now asking for $100 for a covered session, including the skanky street girl Elizabeth and her twin sister. The they severely restrict access to their body, no kiss, no squeeze boobs, no suck tits, no eat or finger pussy ect. They only let you stick you dick in their loose pussies and pump until you pop. Some even try to keep as much distance from you as physically possible. I want sex with a lot stronger skin and sensory contacts with the girls, not pumping their loose pussies from a distance while looking at their ugly, angry faces. Sterile sex with HK girls is probably not better than pumping a rubber doll or jacking to porn for most guys, far worse when HK rubber dolls also show bad attitudes.

Before CoVid there was always a steady stream of HK girls going to the hotel's front and back doors. In the last 3 months I noticed a serious decline of girls taken to the hotel. A few of the hottest ones like Frieda, Lydia, Sasha, Suki ect start work earlier and stay longer, but are still not doing much business. If they reduce session prices down to $60-70, they could do 3 x as much business. I know a few good-looking regulars who give me fairly good sessions at discount prices. Ask the girls you like. You'd be surprised how many would take low offers and give close to GFEs.

If you repeat with street girls, they can give sexy, friendly sessions, far more satisfying than remote fucking HK girls and fighting them at the same time. For every session with ornery HK girls, you can do 3 street girls and get 3 hot sessions. If more guys keep up the pressure top push down prices, eventually a lot more HK girls will reduce prices or move to the streets.

Rambo1969
10-05-21, 08:17
Well everything blew up price wise in Tijuana maybe 6 months before covid and has continued to increase about 15 to 30% a year, depending on what you are talking about. From VIP card, 6 month visitor pass fees into Mexico, hotel Cascadas prices, decreased discounts with VIP card, lap dance increased couple dollars, hotels on revolution increased. It's a rich mans game now. Seriously if you go every week you better be rich. I used to go with 40 bucks three years ago and get sex and hotel beers and meal.I too am not pleased with the price hikes.

BUT, the good news is exchange rate has moved in our favor so paying for many services have not gone up when paying with Pesos.

Example: paying for the girls is constant because their peso prices have gone up 20% but the exchange rate has gone up 10% - so the net price increase is 10% in pesos.

I pay for hotel Cascadas in pesos and the gals in pesos.

If the prices keep going up I am sure they will start loosing business. Example: I may reduce my frequency or length of hotel stays.

Rambo1969
10-05-21, 08:22
Sunday mornings around 8, 9 am were quiet in August. But it's not reliable because it's up to the staff. Only semi reliable time is probably after 7 pm to 2 am. I would say in this time frame, 90% of the time it's under an hour. Remember if your a senior looking person you can go to the senior line 3 feet to the right and that's very quick.What is the senior line. Is it official. I. E, recognized by US border patrol staff?

What is the age requirement for this?

I have gone through ped east many times and only know of the slow line and the sentri bypass.

Hargow20
10-05-21, 11:10
CPB standard procedure is to run them through secondary if they use a expired passport. I had a passport card that lost & I found later. I applied for a new passport, but did not know if had been cancelled. The CBP did not hassle me. They just checked my info. If is your first time they will simply let you go. But you can be fairly certain that it was recorded. So chances are they will hassle you if you try again Your best option is to go to a passport center. UCSD has ones and apply for passport is quite easy their. Just take your receipt of application and they will accept it with a drivers license.


No, you'd never get fined for trying to cross with an expired passport LOL. They'd just put you though additional procedures to prove you're a citizen. I've never been through it myself but have heard it can take anywhere from a few minutes to perhaps a couple of hours or more.

Yeah, my passport expired just last spring (2020) during the height of COVID which was a real pain. But I applied for renewal late last year when processing times got back closer to normal and had the renewed passport back in time for my next trip. So maybe if you don't plan on going back for a long time, try to re-apply right after you come back from this trip. Worst case, if you really want to go to Tijuana during the processing time, take your driver's license, explain that your passport is in the process of being renewed (which is actually the truth), and just pay the bribe. They'll still let you in from what I've heard.

BrotherMouzone
10-05-21, 16:12
https://www.nj.com/sports/2021/09/the-predator-in-plain-sight.html

Lengthy report on the Adelita murder written up by an accomplished writer for the New Jersey Star-Ledger (largest newspaper in New Jersey). Was just published last week. Fascinating article. Towards the end there's a fairly big surprise on the nature of the murder that even I didn't know about (and I was in Tijuana literally the day after it happened and know a couple of girls who were friends with the victim). Made what was already a sad story even sadder. Also, dude who wrote the article met up with Luke Powell, who apparently showed him around the club and Zona Norte a bit.

Jackie888
10-05-21, 20:40
Before CoVid there was always a steady stream of HK girls going to the hotel's front and back doors. In the last 3 months I noticed a serious decline of girls taken to the hotel. A few of the hottest ones like Frieda, Lydia, Sasha, Suki ect start work earlier and stay longer, but are still not doing much business. If they reduce session prices down to $60-70, they could do 3 x as much business. I know a few good-looking regulars who give me fairly good sessions at discount prices. Ask the girls you like. You'd be surprised how many would take low offers and give close to GFEs.Well HK management probably didn't think about this. But when I am in the mood for a couple of drinks, I have no money left for the chicas. And the reverse is also true. When I in the mood for sex, I have no money for drinks.

So if HK ever wonder why they are selling less drinks, someone explain it to them. Some HK fuckhead in management came up with the idea of telling girls they can get $100 to lure more girls. Well, the same fuckhead forgot to realize that it leaves us guys with less money for drinks.

BrockStar
10-05-21, 23:19
I too am not pleased with the price hikes.

BUT, the good news is exchange rate has moved in our favor so paying for many services have not gone up when paying with Pesos.

Example: paying for the girls is constant because their peso prices have gone up 20% but the exchange rate has gone up 10% - so the net price increase is 10% in pesos.

I pay for hotel Cascadas in pesos and the gals in pesos.

If the prices keep going up I am sure they will start loosing business. Example: I may reduce my frequency or length of hotel stays.Definitely! The key is paying with pesos, I pay for everything in pesos, but I live here so its as easy as withdrawing money from the ATM. I guess the only downside of using pesos is that it feels like play money and its easy to lose track of how much you can actually spend. It's not a huge difference, but it does add up over time, especially if you hit the bars often (I go once or twice a week).

Dogers69
10-05-21, 23:36
https://www.nj.com/sports/2021/09/the-predator-in-plain-sight.html

Lengthy report on the Adelita murder written up by an accomplished writer for the New Jersey Star-Ledger (largest newspaper in New Jersey). Was just published last week. Fascinating article. Towards the end there's a fairly big surprise on the nature of the murder that even I didn't know about (and I was in Tijuana literally the day after it happened and know a couple of girls who were friends with the victim). Made what was already a sad story even sadder. Also, dude who wrote the article met up with Luke Powell, who apparently showed him around the club and Zona Norte a bit.Just what luke needs. At this point he may not even be allowed into Mexico anymore never mind Hong Kong.

Dogers69
10-05-21, 23:40
I too am not pleased with the price hikes.

BUT, the good news is exchange rate has moved in our favor so paying for many services have not gone up when paying with Pesos.

Example: paying for the girls is constant because their peso prices have gone up 20% but the exchange rate has gone up 10% - so the net price increase is 10% in pesos.

I pay for hotel Cascadas in pesos and the gals in pesos.

If the prices keep going up I am sure they will start loosing business. Example: I may reduce my frequency or length of hotel stays.They already lost my money on bar girls. When it was 60 it was doable. For the 80 to 100 it is now I'd rather keep my money.

Member #4730
10-06-21, 01:41
Well HK management probably didn't think about this. But when I am in the mood for a couple of drinks, I have no money left for the chicas. And the reverse is also true. When I in the mood for sex, I have no money for drinks.

So if HK ever wonder why they are selling less drinks, someone explain it to them. Some HK fuckhead in management came up with the idea of telling girls they can get $100 to lure more girls. Well, the same fuckhead forgot to realize that it leaves us guys with less money for drinks.I don't think they are hurting for business. Every time I go down, they always have packed tables of dudes getting buckets of beers and bottle service. I don't drink in the clubs and only for touch and feel. I went to a bar / restaurant in Tijuana with other locals and the bottle service for Don Julio 70 and misc. Food came out to $220-250. We were both wasted and she couldn't remember what happened the night before. I could recall details better than when I'm on weed, but alcohol killed my performance.

Maybe they should have dynamic pricing like Uber and if it is super busy charge more for drinks. Also what the ladies charge is totally negotiable and if parties don’t come to agreement walk away. When I first went like a decade ago, I used to tell all the ladies $60 and when they didn’t bite, I sat down and watched the performers. Eventually a lady walked toward me and I said $60 and she said sure and we went arriba. I’m sure they all talk and know which marks are willing to pay for services. They all have bills at the end of the day.

ClownDays
10-06-21, 03:18
I don't think they are hurting for business. Every time I go down, they always have packed tables of dudes getting buckets of beers and bottle service. I don't drink in the clubs and only for touch and feel. I went to a bar / restaurant in Tijuana with other locals and the bottle service for Don Julio 70 and misc. Food came out to $220-250. We were both wasted and she couldn't remember what happened the night before. I could recall details better than when I'm on weed, but alcohol killed my performance. This is pretty much the whole ballgame, I think. There's still plenty of people that flood down there on the weekend, who think that even the raised prices are a steal. Unless you've got serious game, there's nowhere in SoCal where you and your bros can go get blitzed and bang a stripper for about $200.

I remember going to an out of state Strip Club like 10 years ago, getting completely smashed with a few friends and buying random people drinks, and then laughing incessantly when the bar tab came back. We each dropped $100, and the next night, when we went back to get drunk again and watch naked girls dance, the waitresses got into an argument with the hostess about who's rotation it actually was to serve us. We did this trip four more times until it became a scheduling nightmare for everyone involved. Wish we had known then about what was available just south of the border.

Cocr Brotheler
10-06-21, 06:39
https://www.nj.com/sports/2021/09/the-predator-in-plain-sight.html

Lengthy report on the Adelita murder written up by an accomplished writer for the New Jersey Star-Ledger (largest newspaper in New Jersey). Was just published last week. Fascinating article. Towards the end there's a fairly big surprise on the nature of the murder that even I didn't know about (and I was in Tijuana literally the day after it happened and know a couple of girls who were friends with the victim). Made what was already a sad story even sadder. Also, dude who wrote the article met up with Luke Powell, who apparently showed him around the club and Zona Norte a bit.Is a very good read. Thank you Sir.

Phazze93
10-06-21, 08:40
I too am not pleased with the price hikes.

BUT, the good news is exchange rate has moved in our favor so paying for many services have not gone up when paying with Pesos.

Example: paying for the girls is constant because their peso prices have gone up 20% but the exchange rate has gone up 10% - so the net price increase is 10% in pesos.

I pay for hotel Cascadas in pesos and the gals in pesos.

If the prices keep going up I am sure they will start loosing business. Example: I may reduce my frequency or length of hotel stays.Considering the exchange rate being in favor of USD. What is the going rate in pesos for girls?

I'm still a newbie in Tijuana, but unlike Asia -- my impression was that everything was being paid for via USD.

Didn't seem like pesos was used much.

Like if girls are not budging on $100 usd, what is the equivalent in pesos? Obviously not an exact exchange rate otherwise no benefit.

Member #4730
10-06-21, 08:52
Considering the exchange rate being in favor of USD. What is the going rate in pesos for girls?

I'm still a newbie in Tijuana, but unlike Asia -- my impression was that everything was being paid for via USD.

Didn't seem like pesos was used much.

Like if girls are not budging on $100 usd, what is the equivalent in pesos? Obviously not an exact exchange rate otherwise no benefit.So $100 USD is equivalent to 2,078 peso depending on exchange rate that day. I'm sure they would take 2 k peso.

Phazze93
10-06-21, 09:56
So $100 USD is equivalent to 2,078 peso depending on exchange rate that day. I'm sure they would take 2 k peso.Ah I see. In that case idk if that is even worth the trouble. At 2000 pesos, I'm saving like less than $4 as opposed to just paying $100 USD.

I guess over time it could add up if you frequent enough. But then again, you're not really getting the exchange rate you see on google so its likely even less.

Gregyyr
10-07-21, 01:00
There have been many embarrassing moments when sharing time with the beautiful babes from Zona Norte and one reoccurring one that keeps happening is when I am buying them a drink and we are having a bit of trouble communicating, I use google translate of course and I hand my phone to the girl and she starts to type out what she is trying to say BUT. On the screen is also the previous texts I have had with other girls. The girls don't probably really care I am sure and expect it a bit but it's a bit embarrassing. I remember with one girl we were looking at the Mexico map a girl was showing me where she was from and she scrolled up on the map and noticed the marked spot in San Diego for where I live. She laughed a bit knowing gringo's like to keep their privacy a bit and she just identified where I lived so no more privacy for me!

G.

BigTwins
10-07-21, 01:42
Hello everyone,

I have two old DUI convictions over 10 years ago. I have a third arrest that was dismissed, also over 10 years old. Anyone have any info if I can get a SENTRI pass? Thanks for any information.

Baxter Slade
10-07-21, 03:34
There have been many embarrassing moments when sharing time with the beautiful babes from Zona Norte and one reoccurring one that keeps happening is when I am buying them a drink and we are having a bit of trouble communicating, I use google translate of course and I hand my phone to the girl and she starts to type out what she is trying to say BUT. On the screen is also the previous texts I have had with other girls. The girls don't probably really care I am sure and expect it a bit but it's a bit embarrassing. I remember with one girl we were looking at the Mexico map a girl was showing me where she was from and she scrolled up on the map and noticed the marked spot in San Diego for where I live. She laughed a bit knowing gringo's like to keep their privacy a bit and she just identified where I lived so no more privacy for me!

G.Good point. I had a Tijuana GF grab my phone one time and run into the bano. She was clever where did she find the dirt. ? She went into my google translate history. So remember to delete your translate history if you have a GF who might get into your phone. I learned the hard way.

ClownDays
10-07-21, 15:51
Hello everyone,

I have two old DUI convictions over 10 years ago. I have a third arrest that was dismissed, also over 10 years old. Anyone have any info if I can get a SENTRI pass? Thanks for any information.SENTRI only has a small background check fee at the beginning, it's worth the try. Just don't lie about your background history, even if it's been expunged off your record. It's my understanding that once you get provisional approval off that online part of the process, something has to go wrong in the rest of the process to get denied. When I did my interview, they seemed to be much more interested in whether I've ever violated any laws that had to do with immigration or bringing things across the border.

Member #4730
10-07-21, 17:54
SENTRI only has a small background check fee at the beginning, it's worth the try. Just don't lie about your background history, even if it's been expunged off your record. It's my understanding that once you get provisional approval off that online part of the process, something has to go wrong in the rest of the process to get denied. When I did my interview, they seemed to be much more interested in whether I've ever violated any laws that had to do with immigration or bringing things across the border.Just get global entry if you can. You can register first car free and up to 3 additional vehicles. Each additional vehicle costs $42. I don't have issues with background though so not sure if your situation would get denied.

Jackie888
10-07-21, 18:00
SENTRI only has a small background check fee at the beginning, it's worth the try. Just don't lie about your background history, even if it's been expunged off your record. It's my understanding that once you get provisional approval off that online part of the process, something has to go wrong in the rest of the process to get denied. When I did my interview, they seemed to be much more interested in whether I've ever violated any laws that had to do with immigration or bringing things across the border.My in person interview was more of a finger printing pony show. Did not get any questionings at all. On the other hand, I was never incarcerated like some of you guys.

Sol12
10-07-21, 19:12
Hello everyone,

I have two old DUI convictions over 10 years ago. I have a third arrest that was dismissed, also over 10 years old. Anyone have any info if I can get a SENTRI pass? Thanks for any information.Wasn't an issue with me but they might of changed the rules. I forget if they consider DUI a felony now. Mine wasn't. Now if you have any drug charges or issues you will be denied from others that I've known. I know another poster on hear talked about getting out of rehab and he's going to move to Tijuana and get Sentri. I don't think he will pass.

Captain Solo
10-07-21, 19:40
I feel bad for the bros who are denied SENTRI and have to put up with long waits at the border to return.

Criteria vary depending on changes of policies and admins. However, SENTRI costs about $50 for 5 years to apply, worth trying. If denied, keep writing to the ombudsman to appeal, potential asking your local congressperson for an endorsement, Dep of State may reconsider.

Recently a bro's GE was revoked but reinstated upon appeal. Another bro's GE was revoked due to unfavorable info found in his social backgrounds. Another bro applied, got approved, interviewed and the GE card within 2 weeks. Things seem to vary widely but with the huge bureaucracy in the Federal government you will usually get what you want if you persist.

KC Questor
10-07-21, 22:05
Ah I see. In that case idk if that is even worth the trouble. At 2000 pesos, I'm saving like less than $4 as opposed to just paying $100 USD.It's almost never worth paying in pesos in the Zona. Except street girls. They will usually give a much better deal in pesos. Sometimes as much as half (that is, she quotes $50 or 500 pesos, or $25). Also small purchases at the Oxxo or food carts are better with pesos.

But hotels, club drinks, and most bar girls? Fuck that. Pay in dollars and save some hassle. I've met a few bar girls who will accept lower amounts in pesos (She says $100 and you offer 1600 pesos and she agrees). Maybe she would have accepted $80, who knows? Most of the time, the girl's asking price will be the same in pesos or dollars. I've had a bar girl open the calculator on her phone and calculate how many pesos it would cost (this was when the exchange rate was like 17:1, it's much easier to calculate at 20:1).

Not to mention the amount you lose from making mistakes with tips and shit. With the $4 beer, whether you hand the guy a $5 or a $20, you know what you are getting back. With a 78 peso beer, you hand the guy a 200 p bill and you get back a 50 p note and a handful of coins. Lots of guys will take the bill and leave the coins, giving the scammer almost a $4 tip.

If you are totally comfortable with currency exchange and have no trouble manipulating strange money in a dark and noisy club, then go for it. But in my opinion it's not worth the hassle

KC Questor
10-07-21, 22:14
I have two old DUI convictions over 10 years ago. I have a third arrest that was dismissed, also over 10 years old. Anyone have any info if I can get a SENTRI pass? Thanks for any information.


Just get global entry if you can.Definitely get Global Entry instead of SENTRI. There is no reason any more for an American citizen to get SENTRI. Global entry has all the same features, a lot more interview locations, more available appointments, a lower fee, and it works for any foreign travel (not just Mexico).

Hargow20
10-07-21, 22:34
Personally I find that it is better to pay for things in Pesos. If you pay in dollars the Mexicans will round up to the higher price. The other advantage is that the girls will accept a bit less if you pay in Peso's.


It's almost never worth paying in pesos in the Zona. Except street girls. They will usually give a much better deal in pesos. Sometimes as much as half (that is, she quotes $50 or 500 pesos, or $25). Also small purchases at the Oxxo or food carts are better with pesos.

But hotels, club drinks, and most bar girls? Fuck that. Pay in dollars and save some hassle. I've met a few bar girls who will accept lower amounts in pesos (She says $100 and you offer 1600 pesos and she agrees). Maybe she would have accepted $80, who knows? Most of the time, the girl's asking price will be the same in pesos or dollars. I've had a bar girl open the calculator on her phone and calculate how many pesos it would cost (this was when the exchange rate was like 17:1, it's much easier to calculate at 20:1).

Not to mention the amount you lose from making mistakes with tips and shit. With the $4 beer, whether you hand the guy a $5 or a $20, you know what you are getting back. With a 78 peso beer, you hand the guy a 200 p bill and you get back a 50 p note and a handful of coins. Lots of guys will take the bill and leave the coins, giving the scammer almost a $4 tip.

If you are totally comfortable with currency exchange and have no trouble manipulating strange money in a dark and noisy club, then go for it. But in my opinion it's not worth the hassle

Dogers69
10-08-21, 03:23
My in person interview was more of a finger printing pony show. Did not get any questionings at all. On the other hand, I was never incarcerated like some of you guys.LOL when I walk back into San Diego, and walk past the 400 people in line, I'm always wondering what kind of crimes they must do committed to not have global entry by now. Anyone who lives on the border would of done it by now. I did mine online card in my hands 3 weeks later that was 8 months ago I think.

Gregyyr
10-08-21, 06:40
USA has it's big pluses but sex related issues are not one of them. In the Netherlands there is a government program if your disabled you can get the government to pay for hookers up to 12 times a year.

https://www.mic.com/articles/85201/the-surprising-way-the-netherlands-is-helping-its-disabled-have-sex

Were "so smart" in the USA. We would rather bust people and spend thousands a year by criminalizing it. I realize the USA was just test and all is not perfect but it's amazing the religious bull shit that has controlled our laws and allowed other countries to really show us what laws should look like. I don't know why you need to be disabled to get the government to pay for a hooker. I think any guy who has it challenging to find a good looking girl should be able to at least get a hooker with a subsidy.

I can see it now. Along with food stamps you have "ho stamps."

G.

Captain Solo
10-08-21, 17:01
How soon and where can I sign up for this "Ho Stamp?

Will I be allowed to cherry pick among the service providers?

Jackie888
10-08-21, 19:48
According to Forbes, the happiest countries in the world are. Netherlands is 5th. We are 14th. I guess it has something with Texas throwing mongers in prison to be sexually assaulted in the showers my strange men, because they wanted to have sex with women. Setting men to be raped by other men to teach them a lesson of trying to have sex with women. Fucking Texas backwardness retarded religious inbred leaders.

Finland.

Iceland.

Denmark.

Switzerland.

Netherlands.

Sweden.

Germany.

Norway.

New Zealand.

Austria.

Israel.

Australia.

Ireland.

United States.

Canada.

Czech Republic.

Belgium.

United Kingdom.

Taiwan.

France.

BigTwins
10-08-21, 21:34
Definitely get Global Entry instead of SENTRI. There is no reason any more for an American citizen to get SENTRI. Global entry has all the same features, a lot more interview locations, more available appointments, a lower fee, and it works for any foreign travel (not just Mexico).Thank you all, for the information. Just to be clear, I can use Global Entry in the passenger vehicle SENTRI lanes when coming back from Tijuana to San Diego?

Captain Solo
10-09-21, 02:42
Texas is not the only state. All 49 states, except Nevada, criminalize prostitution.

Republica Tijuana is the happiest place on earth.

Member #4730
10-09-21, 06:13
Thank you all, for the information. Just to be clear, I can use Global Entry in the passenger vehicle SENTRI lanes when coming back from Tijuana to San Diego?You need to register the vehicles on the global entry website. You will receive an email confirmation once they are accepted by DHS. You can register up to 4, but the 3 additional require a payment of $42 each.

Gregyyr
10-09-21, 07:14
Texas is not the only state. All 49 states, except Nevada, criminalize prostitution.

Republica Tijuana is the happiest place on earth.Wonder if there is a correlation between happiest countries and those that have legalized prostitution?

G.

Gregyyr
10-09-21, 07:17
How soon and where can I sign up for this "Ho Stamp?

Will I be allowed to cherry pick among the service providers?That's where it's a bit fucked up. I remember seeing a special on a sex therapist in Canada who would "service" disabled folks and she was not too good to look at. Arg.

Then again we have been a weeeee bit spoiled in Tijuana.

G.

Member #4730
10-09-21, 07:28
So resuming trip reports from food thread as someone got upset it was classified in wrong sub forum. I include restaurants during my trips. The trip south of the border started around 7 pm after I got off work and headed to the regulars friends apartment near Zona Centro. She said they were grabbing a coffee and we were going to have a chat since she confused the hell out of me when texting the previous day. I stopped by her friends apartment and waited about 15 min. Wondering when she would pop out of the apartment and then saw her walking up the street with her friend. I guess I got the pickup spot wrong.

She came by and gave me a hug and told me to wait for her so she could go upstairs to get her stuff. She came back down about 10-15 min. Later with more makeup and a different outfit. Not sure why she had to change, but she definitely looked better. I asked where she wanted to eat, but she said she wasn't hungry and neither was I. So she suggested going to watch the dogs race in Caliente Casino. We drove and parked at Caliente Casino and walked over to the dog track. It wasn't packed and I've never been to a horse or dog race for that matter. She said we watch the dogs parade around and then pick a number and place a bet on who is going to win. We placed bets on about 4-5 races and won about twice, but with multiple picks and broke even, possibly made a little more change, but we got micheladas and I got a chicken torta, which tasted great. I enjoyed the experience and don't even recall chatting, but just taking in the action of the dogs racing. I didn't book a hotel as didn't know what to expect, but she was poring on the PDA and I promptly tried to reserve a room at the Marriott, but the shitty cell coverage accidentally made 6-7 reservations as I thought the app errored out and didn't go through with completing the reservation.

We got to Marriott and the front desk had to cancel the multiple reservations I made and told them about my cell service being an issue. We got to the room and started making out. She threw me on the bed and asked if I had condoms, which I said no. She started giving me a BBBJ and telling me I need to get tested since I was banging my other regulars bare like no tomorrow. I was confused as she was giving me such an amazing BBBJ thinking she was trying to finish me with CIM as her technique was different with her using her lips tight around my shaft and licking it with her tongue. It felt amazing and I held back as much as I could. Some time goes by and then she gets on top RCG and looking back at me. It was hot and I couldn't hold it so tapped her so I busted on my stomach. She wants the vibrating cock ring and I'm licking / sucking on her nipples and she tells me to put my leg in between her thighs. She is grinding up and down on my leg while using the vibrating cock ring on her clit. I was thinking my god is she a sexual nympho from my dreams. I eventually got hard again and went in mish and finished in lazy dog.

She told me she likes it rough which made things even more enticing. I was telling her you really like it rough, so I proceeded with lightly choking her and giving it to her hard, but the more I pump and try to get her off the more she responded and the harder it was for me to hold back. She got me off about 4 times in 3 hours and we both were tired and hungry. We drove out to Ricardo's around midnight, but they were closed. During the drive over, she explained her frustration and disappointment as her aunt kept telling her to use condoms, but she told her aunt that she trusted me and I am not with other woman. I am not sure where she got that thought, but I told her I would get tested, but probably cheaper in Mexico as the last time I got tested was about 8 years ago after coming back from Thailand and Dubai as I got warts and a UTI. I thought I had something, but it was just a UTI and cryofreeze the warts off. All clear and I ran through a bunch of women on my international trips.

She suggested we should do tacos el franc, but my Telcel service ran out of credits so we both didn't have internet for the navigation. We eventually found a cab driver lead us to an Oxxo that was open so we could recharge our telcel acct. We're back in action and on our way to Tacos el Franc, but found Taconazo and it was packed. We actually had to eat standing up outside the restaurant as they said it would be a 20-30 min. Wait for a table. The tacos were delicious and service great.

When I was paying the bill, the regular asked if we could get a couple of tacos and a drink for a homeless dude hanging on the corner of the street. I said sure and she was going to hand the guy the food and drink, but was scared as he looked like he was under the influence. She handed the food and drinks to a local guy to hand it to him. She said she does the same if she has extra money left over when she is in Culiacan. I thought she has a good heart and hope the good vibes treat her well. I do this on occasion in SoCal, but we have too many people that I'd be broke.

We got back to the hotel and more action, but can't recall the events. I just remember it was 2 am and I thought to myself where did the time go? We fall asleep and I wake up with a raging hard on spooning her and she still seems out, but receptive to me giving it to her in lazy dog. She tells me we should get another 30 min, but we are out for an hour or 2 and her alarm goes off to dial into her first class at 730 or 8. I take a shower and come back to her and we get it on again, but don't recall details. We get breakfast and I found it entertaining as some places wrap the utensils in a cloth napkin and you usually place it on your lap, but she tosses it on the table. I place mine in my lap and she gets the hint that is what the cloth napkin is for. I'm not sure she is used to higher end establishments. We discuss the Cancun trip next week and Paris over New Years. She says she wants to try Ratatouille and I google it and states it is poor peoples food. She asks what poor is and I put it in google translate. She said she still wants to try it.

We go back to the room and start packing our stuff and she says she is going to her friends apartment and taking her afternoon class. They are going to head to Playas for coffee after her class and I said I'the wait for her in my car when she completes the class. She says I could come up to her friends apartment, but her friends mother is visiting her. I just took a nap in my car and get a text that I can come up and she escorts me to her friends apartment. She shows me an apartment next door to her friends that I assume she must want me to help her with, but it seems kind of run down. I try to keep a straight face like it is decent, but she can probably see in my face the shock. I said it should work for her if she likes it and she said it would be in the $500-$600 range and is a couple blocks from Revolution. The good thing is she is close to her friend so they could help each other out, but the parking situation is nonexistent. If I'm going to help her, then probably visit for overnights a couple times a week.

We all get into the car and drive to the malecon in Playas. We get coconut juice and coconut with lime and hot sauce. Unique snack, but not my thing. We walk down the beach and find a spot for coffee, cake, micheladas and just chill people watching. Decent time and I told her I would have to get back to the USA In an hour so we got back in the car and headed back to her friends apartment and bid farewell. I have the trip to Cancun booked for next week and she drained all my energy. I'm spent and don't even have enough energy to get a gym session in which is rare. She fucked the life out of me and I am still trying to recover from the overnight visit. I'm really looking forward to the Cancun trip and glad she was able to put my mind at ease.

Sol12
10-09-21, 18:28
So resuming trip reports from food thread as someone got upset it was classified in wrong sub forum. I include restaurants during my trips. The trip south of the border started around 7 pm after I got off work and headed to the regulars friends apartment near Zona Centro. She said they were grabbing a coffee and we were going to have a chat since she confused the hell out of me when texting the previous day. I stopped by her friends apartment and waited about 15 min. Wondering when she would pop out of the apartment and then saw her walking up the street with her friend. I guess I got the pickup spot wrong.

She came by and gave me a hug and told me to wait for her so she could go upstairs to get her stuff. She came back down about 10-15 min. Later with more makeup and a different outfit. Not sure why she had to change, but she definitely looked better. I asked where she wanted to eat, but she said she wasn't hungry and neither was I. So she suggested going to watch the dogs race in Caliente Casino. We drove and parked at Caliente Casino and walked over to the dog track. It wasn't packed and I've never been to a horse or dog race for that matter. She said we watch the dogs parade around and then pick a number and place a bet on who is going to win. We placed bets on about 4-5 races and won about twice, but with multiple picks and broke even, possibly made a little more change, but we got micheladas and I got a chicken torta, which tasted great. I enjoyed the experience and don't even recall chatting, but just taking in the action of the dogs racing. I didn't book a hotel as didn't know what to expect, but she was poring on the PDA and I promptly tried to reserve a room at the Marriott, but the shitty cell coverage accidentally made 6-7 reservations as I thought the app errored out and didn't go through with completing the reservation.Well seems like you are happy she hope your trip and everything goes well. One thing I was surprised to reaped is how expensive it's gotten for a place in Centro. If that's really how much an apartment in Centro is going for I can understand why prices continue to go up in HK and will probably continue to go up or girls might just stay away since Tijuana has become so expensive to live. Just the other day one of the Tijuana newspapers said that inflation in Tijuana had risen just over 7%. So if that's the case I would expect prices in the bars to continue to rise.

KB, I assume you and her AR flying out of Tijuana together. Just FYI the airport parking during COVID was bad and sometimes impossible t get a spot. I just started using parking by the border and taking a cab. So you may want to look at different options depending on what you had planned. Also I agree the parking sucks in Centro so if you can convince her to get a place in a better area of Tijuana I would. Or park at the structure where Ticuan is and just walk if it's not that far.

Captain Solo
10-09-21, 19:11
A few bros want to find hot but good GFs, not bar girls. I have seen many angelic pretty young girls at these 2 dance clubs.

Drinks are pretty cheap. Buy a $50 Don Julio bottle or a $20 bucket of beers and invite girls to dink and talk. A lot of young girls speak passable English.

Groups of guys from OC have been partying here all night Saturday until 6 AM Sunday morning, had lots of fun. Guys have gotten unbelievably beautiful GFs from these clubs. One guy had a 18 YO hot spinner GF, put her up in an apartment, pay for rent and food, took her clubbing, spent 3 or 4 nights a week with her. I met her and her natural blonde friend partying with the guy in HK. The blonde was movie star pretty, nice and sweet, smiling and giggling. Got her tel #.

Most of my wingmen are young and single, wanting intimate relationships with hot girls without the legal liabilities in the US. Forget about the nasty gold digging bar putas. We need to try these clubs and make new civie friends. My wingmen are missing out on wholesome, sweet and sexy relationships with nice, hot, sweet, young civie girls.

Las Pulgas.

This is the favorite club of the locals in the city. The club is consists of four huge stages and each stage plays different music. You can choose your favorite stage according to the type of music you like. Music of different genre played here from reggaetón, to bachata, to Middle Eastern music. Drinks here are well mixed but are very inexpensive.

This club is located at Av. Revolución 1127 Col. Zona Centro 22000 Tijuana, Baja California Mexico.

El Alebrije.

It is probably the biggest nightclub in Tijuana and the only vegas-style club in the city. Music is great here, they play a mix of electronic and reggaeton and some old school songs too. The best thing about the club is prices are cheap compared to American club prices while the services are similar.

Member #4730
10-09-21, 19:57
Well seems like you are happy she hope your trip and everything goes well. One thing I was surprised to reaped is how expensive it's gotten for a place in Centro. If that's really how much an apartment in Centro is going for I can understand why prices continue to go up in HK and will probably continue to go up or girls might just stay away since Tijuana has become so expensive to live. Just the other day one of the Tijuana newspapers said that inflation in Tijuana had risen just over 7%. So if that's the case I would expect prices in the bars to continue to rise.

KB, I assume you and her AR flying out of Tijuana together. Just FYI the airport parking during COVID was bad and sometimes impossible t get a spot. I just started using parking by the border and taking a cab. So you may want to look at different options depending on what you had planned. Also I agree the parking sucks in Centro so if you can convince her to get a place in a better area of Tijuana I would. Or park at the structure where Ticuan is and just walk if it's not that far.The friends apartment is $300 per month, but it is studio, kitchen, and bathroom. It is small, but she is a baker and has a small oven for her business. The one next door is a one bedroom, living room, kitchen, and bathroom. She hasn't got the quote from the owner. I was being cheap and said I could help her with $600 per month, but she said it wouldn't be enough to help her and I usually pay $300 for overnights. I have spent numerous overnights with her and some where I forgot to help her. It isn't much to me as I usually pay $200-$260 for hhr with Asian and Latina providers in the USA Amazing value in Mexico and can hardly believe the experiences I've had across the border. Also the locals seem to appreciate the tips as they offer great service as well. We are flying out of TIJ and will keep parking in mind. I'll let her know and see if we can get parking at airport. If it doesn't work out we can ask the locals of overflow parking situation. I am sure they have private lots as the locals seem resourceful in providing alternatives for people. Also could consider CBX, but would imagine parking is cheaper on Mexico side.

Inflation indeed is working in my favor. All of my assets, real estate, investments, etc. Have gone up 30% in the past year. They keep printing / creating money out of thin air and I can see median prices for a homes in SoCal approaching $1 million within 5 years. You only need a handful and you're set for life. Hard to imagine how much wealth was created out of thin air in the past year. If a small time investor like me made out 30% in the past year, then imagine what kind of returns the wealthy business owners have generated. Inflation is the friend of the debtor as you get to pay back fixed rate debt with today's cheaper dollar. I've considered buying in Mexico, but can't get the numbers to work as I love to leverage and make at least 12% return after debt service and operating costs.

Captain Solo
10-09-21, 20:30
The happiest places on earth have to have lots of hot girls, good sex and good food. Nobody gives a shit about sight seeing, museums or historic monuments.

Tijuana has lots of hot girls, cheap sex, cheap drinks, delicious food, exciting entertainment, exotic environment, happy time 24/7/365.

El paraiso.

Dcrist0527
10-09-21, 20:36
The friends apartment is $300 per month, but it is studio, kitchen, and bathroom. It is small, but she is a baker and has a small oven for her business. The one next door is a one bedroom, living room, kitchen, and bathroom. She hasn't got the quote from the owner. I was being cheap and said I could help her with $600 per month, but she said it wouldn't be enough to help her and I usually pay $300 for overnights. I have spent numerous overnights with her and some where I forgot to help her. It isn't much to me as I usually pay $200-$260 for hhr with Asian and Latina providers in the USA Amazing value in Mexico and can hardly believe the experiences I've had across the border. Also the locals seem to appreciate the tips as they offer great service as well. We are flying out of TIJ and will keep parking in mind. I'll let her know and see if we can get parking at airport. If it doesn't work out we can ask the locals of overflow parking situation. I am sure they have private lots as the locals seem resourceful in providing alternatives for people. Also could consider CBX, but would imagine parking is cheaper on Mexico side.

Inflation indeed is working in my favor. All of my assets, real estate, investments, etc. Have gone up 30% in the past year. They keep printing / creating money out of thin air and I can see median prices for a homes in SoCal approaching $1 million within 5 years. You only need a handful and you're set for life. Hard to imagine how much wealth was created out of thin air in the past year. If a small time investor like me made out 30% in the past year, then imagine what kind of returns the wealthy business owners have generated. Inflation is the friend of the debtor as you get to pay back fixed rate debt with today's cheaper dollar. I've considered buying in Mexico, but can't get the numbers to work as I love to leverage and make at least 12% return after debt service and operating costs.Pretty sure you can find a much better apartment for maybe $100-$200 more. From the way you describe it, I would be shocked if it was $600. There are decent places online (with a gringo price) of $800 per month. You'll find much better pricing offline with a little leg work. Maybe it's not worth the trouble, but unless this specific location is important, I think you'll find better value fairly easily.

Member #4730
10-09-21, 21:54
Pretty sure you can find a much better apartment for maybe $100-$200 more. From the way you describe it, I would be shocked if it was $600. There are decent places online (with a gringo price) of $800 per month. You'll find much better pricing offline with a little leg work. Maybe it's not worth the trouble, but unless this specific location is important, I think you'll find better value fairly easily.I don't speak or read Spanish so would be a challenge. Also have a limit to how much I'm willing to "support". I'm sure she could negotiate with the owner in regards to amount she is willing to pay as it looked vacant for a while. I'm a rental owner and know that vacancy kills ROI. It is better to lower the rent and get it working instead of having vacancy and eating the debt service. I showed her a place further out, but she said Uber is expensive and would need something more central.

Sol12
10-09-21, 21:58
The friends apartment is $300 per month, but it is studio, kitchen, and bathroom. It is small, but she is a baker and has a small oven for her business. The one next door is a one bedroom, living room, kitchen, and bathroom. She hasn't got the quote from the owner. I was being cheap and said I could help her with $600 per month, but she said it wouldn't be enough to help her and I usually pay $300 for overnights. I have spent numerous overnights with her and some where I forgot to help her. It isn't much to me as I usually pay $200-$260 for hhr with Asian and Latina providers in the USA Amazing value in Mexico and can hardly believe the experiences I've had across the border. Also the locals seem to appreciate the tips as they offer great service as well. We are flying out of TIJ and will keep parking in mind. I'll let her know and see if we can get parking at airport. If it doesn't work out we can ask the locals of overflow parking situation. I am sure they have private lots as the locals seem resourceful in providing alternatives for people. Also could consider CBX, but would imagine parking is cheaper on Mexico side.

Inflation indeed is working in my favor. All of my assets, real estate, investments, etc. Have gone up 30% in the past year. They keep printing / creating money out of thin air and I can see median prices for a homes in SoCal approaching $1 million within 5 years. You only need a handful and you're set for life. Hard to imagine how much wealth was created out of thin air in the past year. If a small time investor like me made out 30% in the past year, then imagine what kind of returns the wealthy business owners have generated. Inflation is the friend of the debtor as you get to pay back fixed rate debt with today's cheaper dollar. I've considered buying in Mexico, but can't get the numbers to work as I love to leverage and make at least 12% return after debt service and operating costs.Well with inflation and everything working in your favor you just have to decide how much you're willing to giver her. I imagine that you will be buying all the items to furnish her new place as well. In the long run this might be more expensive than you expected but if you enjoy her time and the sex is great it what do you have to lose except a few bucks but hey you would of just spent it on someone else. LOL Good luck.

Sol12
10-09-21, 22:06
I don't speak or read Spanish so would be a challenge. Also have a limit to how much I'm willing to "support". I'm sure she could negotiate with the owner in regards to amount she is willing to pay as it looked vacant for a while. I'm a rental owner and know that vacancy kills ROI. It is better to lower the rent and get it working instead of having vacancy and eating the debt service. I showed her a place further out, but she said Uber is expensive and would need something more central.A lot of places have property managers that run the places and you don't deal with the owner directly. When I was looking for my place a buddy set me up with a rental agent. She knew the aras I liked and showed me a few places. One on the golf course that was nice but more mine and bigger than I needed. Another place that was nice because it had a pool but I didn't like the layout of the apartment. I used the same lady to help another guy find a place in Tijuana. I doubt I have HR number anymore but if you drive around you will see the phone numbers of agents in Tijuana windows of people renting apartments.

The bad thing about her being in Centro and you not being with her permanently is that she could be tempted to work at a bar when your not around. Don't mean to be negative it's just something to think about.

Sol12
10-09-21, 22:13
We are flying out of TIJ and will keep parking in mind. I'll let her know and see if we can get parking at airport. If it doesn't work out we can ask the locals of overflow parking situation. I am sure they have private lots as the locals seem resourceful in providing alternatives for people. Also could consider CBX, but would imagine parking is cheaper on Mexico side..Well they have parking at the airport but last year when I tri the to use it the had a long line and not letting anyone in until other cars left. I didn't want to wait and risk missing my flight. They did have people offering overflow lots a few miles away in Otay. I don't care for Otay so just went back to a lot before the border and took a taxi back. They also have a Park and Fly lot on the way to the airport by the Airport hotel. You can park and take a shuttle to the airport. Not sure what they charge per day.

BrotherMouzone
10-09-21, 22:40
Am I the only one who gets a bit irritated when random dudes approach you to strike up long conversations in the Zona Norte clubs? I mean I understand being sociable in a club but I'm there to talk to and focus on women not other dudes LOL. Was at Adelita a couple weeks ago and had some random Nicaraguan guy (who spoke fluent English) kind of follow me into the club at around 2 in the morning, sit next to me at the bar, and talk my head off for the next 30-45 minutes. He was actually a pretty nice guy and wasn't up to anything nefarious (which is what I suspected at first) but it was hella annoying trying to concentrate on the ladies with the guy in my ear. I mean a quick chat for a couple minutes or so seems fine but I'm not there to talk to any dudes.

Sol12
10-09-21, 22:49
Am I the only one who gets a bit irritated when random dudes approach you to strike up long conversations in the Zona Norte clubs? I mean I understand being sociable in a club but I'm there to talk to and focus on women not other dudes LOL. Was at Adelita a couple weeks ago and had some random Nicaraguan guy (who spoke fluent English) kind of follow me into the club at around 2 in the morning, sit next to me at the bar, and talk my head off for the next 30-45 minutes. He was actually a pretty nice guy and wasn't up to anything nefarious (which is what I suspected at first) but it was hella annoying trying to concentrate on the ladies with the guy in my ear. I mean a quick chat for a couple minutes or so seems fine but I'm not there to talk to any dudes.I agree. Had 2 groups try to sit with me at my table last week. When your stuck on a bar stool you just have to ignore them so they get the idea or go somewhere else.

Dogers69
10-09-21, 22:50
Am I the only one who gets a bit irritated when random dudes approach you to strike up long conversations in the Zona Norte clubs? I mean I understand being sociable in a club but I'm there to talk to and focus on women not other dudes LOL. Was at Adelita a couple weeks ago and had some random Nicaraguan guy (who spoke fluent English) kind of follow me into the club at around 2 in the morning, sit next to me at the bar, and talk my head off for the next 30-45 minutes. He was actually a pretty nice guy and wasn't up to anything nefarious (which is what I suspected at first) but it was hella annoying trying to concentrate on the ladies with the guy in my ear. I mean a quick chat for a couple minutes or so seems fine but I'm not there to talk to any dudes.I don't have the look that even men desire for their male friends. So random dudes never really talk to me beyond 30 seconds anywhere in the world unless their gay. In Adelitas 1 dude talked to me for 5 minutes at that bar, my gaydar went up, and when I grabbed my dollar off the floor he smacked me in the ass LOL. I wasn't sure if I was supposed to pay him a dollar or ask for a dollar. In la Gloria bar, during pandemic when they had the smaller upstairs bar going, a Mexican. Guy maybe 25 is talking to me. Its covid time, I live alone, I never speak to men indoors. Its how I stay alive. I keep moving my seat. 4 times he follows me despite me saying I needed the seat next to me empty for a chick to want to sit next to me. I had to get a waitress to talk to him for a minute to sneak out into the street.

BrockStar
10-09-21, 23:04
A few bros want to find hot but good GFs, not bar girls. I have seen many angelic pretty young girls at these 2 dance clubs.

Drinks are pretty cheap. Buy a $50 Don Julio bottle or a $20 bucket of beers and invite girls to dink and talk. A lot of young girls speak passable English.

Groups of guys from OC have been partying here all night Saturday until 6 AM Sunday morning, had lots of fun. Guys have gotten unbelievably beautiful GFs from these clubs. One guy had a 18 YO hot spinner GF, put her up in an apartment, pay for rent and food, took her clubbing, spent 3 or 4 nights a week with her. I met her and her natural blonde friend partying with the guy in HK. The blonde was movie star pretty, nice and sweet, smiling and giggling. Got her tel #..But going by Tinder Tijuana is terrible for non pros! At least for foreigners. When I first moved here I blindly hit like (or swiped right) for like 2 weeks and I got 8 matches; 2 were trannies and the other 6 were fat, cleaning lady types. I'm not an older guy and I don't think most women would say I'm unattractive. Hell I had no problems in Asia, but here Tinder is every bit as awful as I'd imagine it being in the states.

Member #4730
10-10-21, 00:29
Am I the only one who gets a bit irritated when random dudes approach you to strike up long conversations in the Zona Norte clubs? I mean I understand being sociable in a club but I'm there to talk to and focus on women not other dudes LOL. Was at Adelita a couple weeks ago and had some random Nicaraguan guy (who spoke fluent English) kind of follow me into the club at around 2 in the morning, sit next to me at the bar, and talk my head off for the next 30-45 minutes. He was actually a pretty nice guy and wasn't up to anything nefarious (which is what I suspected at first) but it was hella annoying trying to concentrate on the ladies with the guy in my ear. I mean a quick chat for a couple minutes or so seems fine but I'm not there to talk to any dudes.I've had brief conversations with some other bros and they were about my shirt or where I'm from and then a fist bump. One was about politics and business, but wasn't uncomfortable. I think it was just to pass time since we both ran through so many women when I bumped into the other bro. If it was uncomfortable you could have probably excused yourself or invited a lady over to grind you out or rub some titties in your face. I'm sure he would have got the point and gave you space or find his lady for the day / night.

Big Magick
10-10-21, 03:25
But going by Tinder Tijuana is terrible for non pros! At least for foreigners. When I first moved here I blindly hit like (or swiped right) for like 2 weeks and I got 8 matches; 2 were trannies and the other 6 were fat, cleaning lady types. I'm not an older guy and I don't think most women would say I'm unattractive. Hell I had no problems in Asia, but here Tinder is every bit as awful as I'd imagine it being in the states.Several bar girls have told me about dating guys they met in Tijuana night clubs. The guys they dated all had one thing in common though. Money. I imagine picking up women on tinder or night clubs will be about the same as in America, it will just take less to impress a Mexican. The looks / personality might get their attention for a bit but money is what keeps them around long term.

All the forum bros at a night club sounds like a good time, would be nice to get some free sex LOL. Though its never truly "free."

Member #4730
10-10-21, 05:00
A lot of places have property managers that run the places and you don't deal with the owner directly. When I was looking for my place a buddy set me up with a rental agent. She knew the aras I liked and showed me a few places. One on the golf course that was nice but more mine and bigger than I needed. Another place that was nice because it had a pool but I didn't like the layout of the apartment. I used the same lady to help another guy find a place in Tijuana. I doubt I have HR number anymore but if you drive around you will see the phone numbers of agents in Tijuana windows of people renting apartments.

The bad thing about her being in Centro and you not being with her permanently is that she could be tempted to work at a bar when your not around. Don't mean to be negative it's just something to think about.Yeah not too worried as if she rents by her friend, then she most likely wouldn't want to reveal what she really did for work. It is just odd that her cousin and friend wouldn't know how to put 1 and 1 together by meeting a gringo with little Spanish and spending money to take her on vacations. I saw a billboard driving back from Playas with HK Halloween party and was going to say something to her, but her friend was in the backseat. Not sure how common people in Tijuana know about Zona Norte. I just stated how much I'd offer her per week for "support" which is equivalent to what I pay her for an overnight. So if I manage to stay a couple days per week, then got more than my monies worth. I can’t imagine women really enjoy working in the Zona. Also the vacations I don't have to pay her a daily rate, so win win in my book. I actually suggested meeting at HK to chat and she gave me a crazy look. I'll let her know to contact an agent for an area that she is considering.

Sol12
10-10-21, 12:32
Not sure how common people in Tijuana know about Zona Norte.It's very well known in Tijuana. They had a clown show at the mall and he would joke about it. I went to a hypnotist show and one young guy that was hypnotized said he he got a bunch of money he go to HK and do as many girls as possible. In Tijuana most people just put up with it. If you notice you'll see lots of couples go and drink. I imagine to help get the juices going. Some in Tijuana think they should get rid of the area but have yet to win enough support for it to happen. Most just know about it and since it's in a bad and that they don't have to see they just tolerate it. I mean with all the love motels in Tijuana it's not like people only go to the zona for sex.

Dogers69
10-10-21, 16:45
But going by Tinder Tijuana is terrible for non pros! At least for foreigners. When I first moved here I blindly hit like (or swiped right) for like 2 weeks and I got 8 matches; 2 were trannies and the other 6 were fat, cleaning lady types. I'm not an older guy and I don't think most women would say I'm unattractive. Hell I had no problems in Asia, but here Tinder is every bit as awful as I'd imagine it being in the states.Tinder is significantly better in Tijuana than San Diego. About ten times better. Easily. In San Diego, a tinder girl is going to care very much what you do, what part of San Diego you live in, who you live with I'd anyone, parking situation. And #1, #2 and #3 will be your height. In Tijuana you can be broke like me, just pay 70 bucks for a nice hotel on revolucion and have 30 bucks for dinner. Bam. You all set. Especially if she doesn't have a visa to go to USA. But in general Mexican woman, aren't that interested in American men. I've sat in Mexican coffee places hundreds hours had a thousand Mexican waitresses and never met a girl to even talk to for 5 minutes if it qasnt from tinder. But still tinder is better in Tijuana than San Diego, or Angeles, and better than Florida. Only place tinder is easy for a guy is nyc because its filled with woman. Unless your a tall guy. Then tinder can be good everywhere.

Jackie888
10-10-21, 16:46
But going by Tinder Tijuana is terrible for non pros! At least for foreigners. When I first moved here I blindly hit like (or swiped right) for like 2 weeks and I got 8 matches; 2 were trannies and the other 6 were fat, cleaning lady types. I'm not an older guy and I don't think most women would say I'm unattractive. Hell I had no problems in Asia, but here Tinder is every bit as awful as I'd imagine it being in the states.LOL. You know why the 2 trannies are not fat right? Because they each cannot have 12 grandkids like the 6 natural women you matched with.

Member #4730
10-10-21, 17:35
It's very well known in Tijuana. They had a clown show at the mall and he would joke about it. I went to a hypnotist show and one young guy that was hypnotized said he he got a bunch of money he go to HK and do as many girls as possible. In Tijuana most people just put up with it. If you notice you'll see lots of couples go and drink. I imagine to help get the juices going. Some in Tijuana think they should get rid of the area but have yet to win enough support for it to happen. Most just know about it and since it's in a bad and that they don't have to see they just tolerate it. I mean with all the love motels in Tijuana it's not like people only go to the zona for sex.Yeah that is what I was thinking. Her friend was kind of silent when we were talking about things to do in Cancun. I'm sure she doesn't make enough disposable income to travel often. They were high school friends in Culiacan and she did 1 year of university and dropped out. I guess we are lucky to have a car or multiple cars as it seems most just take taxis or ride share. A car still costs the same in Mexico as USA, but it would take a months worth of work to afford one, but they have other monthly expenses as well. I'm taking the CBX as don't want to deal with the parking situation and she is going to taxi to airport. It is dangerous seeing her as she rocks my world. Not sure if she fucked the life out of me to ensure I don't have enough energy to see anyone else, but I still feel spent a couple days later. Cancun is going to be interesting.

Scbb1
10-10-21, 18:32
Personally I find that it is better to pay for things in Pesos. If you pay in dollars the Mexicans will round up to the higher price. The other advantage is that the girls will accept a bit less if you pay in Peso's.I use pesos for everything, a good rule of thumb is a dollar is 20 pesos, it's a good round figure and always pretty close.

Big Magick
10-11-21, 03:58
Tinder is significantly better in Tijuana than San Diego. About ten times better. Easily. In San Diego, a tinder girl is going to care very much what you do, what part of San Diego you live in, who you live with I'd anyone, parking situation. And #1, #2 and #3 will be your height. In Tijuana you can be broke like me, just pay 70 bucks for a nice hotel on revolucion and have 30 bucks for dinner. Bam. You all set. Especially if she doesn't have a visa to go to USA. But in general Mexican woman, aren't that interested in American men. I've sat in Mexican coffee places hundreds hours had a thousand Mexican waitresses and never met a girl to even talk to for 5 minutes if it qasnt from tinder. But still tinder is better in Tijuana than San Diego, or Angeles, and better than Florida. Only place tinder is easy for a guy is nyc because its filled with woman. Unless your a tall guy. Then tinder can be good everywhere.Have you ever cold approached in Tijuana? As in go up to random women at the grocery store / mall and start a conversation. I went through a pick up phase in America but here women are tough customers. My best success was always in the party, nightclub scene. I imagine pick up in Mexico is dating on easy mode. You say different but I have this idea in my head that all poor Mexican women dream of dating an American.

TjBrazil
10-11-21, 07:05
Actually I worked as a male dancer at Show Palace which was the male revue across the street from Showorld. Robyn would come into the dressing room to say Hello,. It was pretty cool to say you worked in a legendary sleaze establishment. I worked at a few other scandalous "revues" in the area then around 1993 - 97 is when things started to close down and Disney stepped in.

I tell people about the peep shows with rooms behind the screen and its hard to believe. The girls used to come out and sit with you while watching the movie and fondle your junk to get you into the back rooms. Really nice looking Puerto Rican and black women. There is so much more to it. I get emotional when I discuss the DEUCE. Definitely a major player in my life for better or for worse.You worked as a stripper? Let's hear some stories from those days. How many pornstars did you meet back then or celebrities. I always heard from girls that have gone to Chippendales that most of the guys are gay. Did you find that to be true.

Jackie888
10-11-21, 16:30
Condom broke when I was screwing and I accidentally came inside my chica. I tried to offer to go get her a pill after, but she just laughed it off. I presumed she was already on the pill so she took it lightly. Anyone have this happened to them and what did you do?

In 20 years will I see my clone working as HK mesero?

Dogers69
10-11-21, 17:26
Have you ever cold approached in Tijuana? As in go up to random women at the grocery store / mall and start a conversation. I went through a pick up phase in America but here women are tough customers. My best success was always in the party, nightclub scene. I imagine pick up in Mexico is dating on easy mode. You say different but I have this idea in my head that all poor Mexican women dream of dating an American.I've tried to say Hello, etc to many maids restaurant workers. They are not at all interested in talking to me.

Even the ones who get tips from me as cleaning lady and have known me for years. Contrary to our wishful thinking, the Mexican woman are not desiring gringos. Maybe before the internet. Right now, any woman even left in Mexico is in Mexico because she doesn't want to be. The border is wide open. I go around in nyc suburbs and it looks more like Mexico or Guatamala then Tijuana does. I get to practice my Spanish all night long.

Artisttyp
10-11-21, 18:50
How many pornstars did you meet back then or celebrities. I always heard from girls that have gone to Chippendales that most of the guys are gay. Did you find that to be true.I was dancing at a private party on Xtasy when David Lee Roth showed up. He was pretty cool. Also got to dance in front of Deborah Harry BLONDIE.

I auditioned for Chippendales but I was too lean for it. They like big beefy jock types with mainstream looks. I was more of a club kid with an alternative look. People's sexuality was mixed but open due to the nature of the business "sex". Gay for Pay is a thing with some of the guys. You are correct.

Now back to Tijuana.

Thank You for you interest.

Artisttyp
10-11-21, 18:53
I go around in nyc suburbs and it looks more like Mexico or Guatamala then Tijuana does. I get to practice my Spanish all night long.

Have you looked into any of the action around Roosevelt Ave, Jackson Heights? I remember getting propositioned by SG's at 5 am on my way to the airport at the bus stop. This was as late as 2013. Guys used to hand out little cards on the corner with numbers on it. Still going on?

LuvMexicanas
10-11-21, 19:12
Condom broke when I was screwing and I accidentally came inside my chica. I tried to offer to go get her a pill after, but she just laughed it off. I presumed she was already on the pill so she took it lightly. Anyone have this happened to them and what did you do?

In 20 years will I see my clone working as HK mesero?Perhaps you should start by getting tested for STDs.

LuvMexicanas
10-11-21, 19:31
Have you ever cold approached in Tijuana? As in go up to random women at the grocery store / mall and start a conversation. I went through a pick up phase in America but here women are tough customers. My best success was always in the party, nightclub scene. I imagine pick up in Mexico is dating on easy mode. You say different but I have this idea in my head that all poor Mexican women dream of dating an American.I've picked up chicas in normal bars but the ones I've picked up were not true civvies and instead young single moms out having a good time yet not opposed to making some milk money. That's the sweet spot for me because although pros, not hardened ones and at the same time lines don't get blurred because I'm paying. Just in a stage of my life right now where I just want the booty call as opposed to get caught up in a relationship. As for what Mexican women dream of, I don't know or care.

RikyMichaels7
10-11-21, 21:41
Hola Amigos:

As many will recall, I left Cali over a month ago to live and work in San Antonio. Bad idea. Since I moved to San Antonio, I have had nothing but bad luck. This includes getting side swiped in New Mexico by a big rig when two lanes merged into one, working a job that ended up to be a piece of crap labor camp type of employment, getting my front bumper and side panel of my car bashed in by a hit and run idiot at a grocery store. The bar scene in both Nuevo Laredo and Ciudad Acuna totally sucks. I was with a hottie in a bar called Pullmans in Nuevo Laredo. She was going to hang out with me all night and not work as long as I gave her some money for the whole day and night. I got sicker than a dog at one of the bars we went to and told her that I needed to go back to my hotel alone. She got pissed and threatened me, telling me. You leave and don't pay me and you will be very sorry. You will pay big time. This is as she started making calls to god knows who. So I ended up paying her so I didn't get my ass whipped by a band of cartel thugs. So, with this string of bad luck, I have decided to come back home to Cali.