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Have you looked into any of the action around Roosevelt Ave, Jackson Heights? I remember getting propositioned by SG's at 5 am on my way to the airport at the bus stop. This was as late as 2013. Guys used to hand out little cards on the corner with numbers on it. Still going on?I haven't walked around that area since I went to hk for first time 6 years ago. Basically for myself anyway, flushing nyc is my tijuana when on the east coast. It's got a lot of the same stuff. More affordable hotels then most areas, walkable, public trains, woman on the street that will ask me for sex, great 40 dollar massages. Feels like foreign country as it's probably 90% asain when you walk around. I love going into the asain supermarkets. They have 24 ounce beers buds etc for like 2 bucks. The woman, regular woman are all about half the weight of mexican woman. I like thin woman so thoe asin woman are much more my type. But its endless endless beautiful korean woman walking around here. Tons working girl houses. Like probably 20 to 30 just in flushing I would guess. Some have been open 20 years so I feel safe. Only issue is the price had gona up anyway or two ago. I used to spend 40 to get massage table shower, and let them convince me I needed their extra services. Usually 40 to 60 more would work. Now it does not so I just go to hang out and look at the woman and get a massage.
Wonder if there is a correlation between happiest countries and those that have legalized prostitution?
G.I think the answer is yes for men.
I have suffered from a sexless marriage for years in California & miserable because prostitution is illegal here and they set up stings to catch johns.
Then I discovered Tijuana and my happiness turned around.
I think Tijuana is DisneyWorld for men. Yes. Happiest place on earth.
Hey all. Is anyone here familiar with the SoCal scene?
I've lived in LA area for about 7 years now and I've long tried not to 'shit where I eat'. Fear of running into a girl in public while I'm out with the girlfriend, friends, or coworkers LOL.
However, lately I've cared less and less about that problem.
For those of you familiar with both SoCal & Tijuana. Would it be safe to say the total cost between SoCal and Tijuana is comparable?
Obviously the per session fee in Tijuana is cheaper but not including hotel / drinks / driving / etc.
I've tried looking up rates for SoCal K-agencies and rates seem to be pretty common at 160/ hh? In which case its almost the same as HK if you factor in all the other expenses you'd incur.
Obviously with K-agencies, you're on a fixed time table with almost zero chance of pulling the girl for outside hours. And theres obviously no atmosphere as you're just fucking and leaving.
Just thinking out loud. Appreciate any feedback.
Hey all.
Is anyone here familiar with the SoCal scene?
...For those of you familiar with both SoCal & Tijuana. Would it be safe to say the total cost between SoCal and Tijuana is comparable?
Obviously the per session fee in Tijuana is cheaper but not including hotel / drinks / driving / etc.
I've tried looking up rates for SoCal K-agencies and rates seem to be pretty common at 160/ hh? In which case its almost the same as HK if you factor in all the other expenses you'd incur.
Obviously with K-agencies, you're on a fixed time table with almost zero chance of pulling the girl for outside hours. And theres obviously no atmosphere as you're just fucking and leaving.
Just thinking out loud. Appreciate any feedback.I don't monger in SoCal, but I am a regular visitor at the Korean agencies in NorCal. I have done few hh over the years, not worth it in my opinion. I now do 1-hour sessions all the time, for a bit more money. If you are doing the comparison strictly based on how much money you spend, I would agree with you and say that the cost are comparable. However, for me the quality of the sessions I get with Korean WGs is far superior than what I get in Tijuana. A whole lot more GFE, especially since I tend to repeat with my favorite WGs. Their locations are a lot nicer, and the service is much better overall.
You can pull the girl for outside hours. I have done it many times. I usually don't pay for their time, but I pay for their food, and drive them around for sightseeing. I have even visited one in Seoul. So, yes it is doable.
Indeed, if you do only hh, you don't have time to connect with the girl. It is much easier to establish a connection if you do 1-hour long sessions. Even better if you like the girl and repeat with her.
I do like variety, however, and I get my Latina treats at Tijuana, Colombia, and Brazil.
Definitely get Global Entry instead of SENTRI. There is no reason any more for an American citizen to get SENTRI. Global entry has all the same features, a lot more interview locations, more available appointments, a lower fee, and it works for any foreign travel (not just Mexico).Unless you want to register your car with SENTRI you need SENTRI the vehicle SENTRI not available through Gobal Entry.
I haven't walked around that area since I went to hk for first time 6 years ago. Basically for myself anyway, flushing nyc is my tijuana when on the east coast. It's got a lot of the same stuff. More affordable hotels then most areas, walkable, public trains, woman on the street that will ask me for sex, great 40 dollar massages. Feels like foreign country as it's probably 90% asain when you walk around. I love going into the asain supermarkets. They have 24 ounce beers buds etc for like 2 bucks. The woman, regular woman are all about half the weight of mexican woman. I like thin woman so thoe asin woman are much more my type. But its endless endless beautiful korean woman walking around here. Tons working girl houses. Like probably 20 to 30 just in flushing I would guess. Some have been open 20 years so I feel safe. Only issue is the price had gona up anyway or two ago. I used to spend 40 to get massage table shower, and let them convince me I needed their extra services. Usually 40 to 60 more would work. Now it does not so I just go to hang out and look at the woman and get a massage.Great Info. I never ventured into Flushing much but I do know it is highly Asian populated so makes sense. I did the soapies in Korea Town years ago. None of it was really cheap except out on the street during the 80's.
Hey all. Is anyone here familiar with the SoCal scene?
I've lived in LA area for about 7 years now and I've long tried not to 'shit where I eat'. Fear of running into a girl in public while I'm out with the girlfriend, friends, or coworkers LOL.
However, lately I've cared less and less about that problem.
For those of you familiar with both SoCal & Tijuana. Would it be safe to say the total cost between SoCal and Tijuana is comparable?
Obviously the per session fee in Tijuana is cheaper but not including hotel / drinks / driving / etc.
I've tried looking up rates for SoCal K-agencies and rates seem to be pretty common at 160/ hh? In which case its almost the same as HK if you factor in all the other expenses you'd incur..Interesting question as I wasn't really aware of "K-agencies" myself but mongered in Asia and of course Mexico. If your driving from LA then I can see where the costs is very comparable when you factor in the hotel etc. But, we are talking apples and oranges here in terms of experiences. In a given night I may only screw one girl, but I talked to many, had drinks, groped them, took them in a private room for private lap dance where I negotiated for her to be totally nude etc. I other girls that I am looking forward to fucking in the future etc, and I learned a bit about Mexico from the girls.
I was able to bounce between 2-3 bars that each have their on flavor of ambiance. Music etc. Sometimes check out a recommended restaurant, at times meet up with a buddy from the forum and exchange mongering experiences.
It really is "the whole enchilada" in Tijuana.
I have met a few Mexican girls I really enjoyed hanging out with and doing a GFE with them would be really nice as well so it's got it's wonderful perks.
Seems you can have your cake and eat it too. Take in some K-Agencies up there and make some trips to Tijuana!
Here is the Post Malone tune that embodies these opportunities.
https://youtu.be/UceaB4D0jpo
G.
...It really is "the whole enchilada" in Tijuana.
I have met a few Mexican girls I really enjoyed hanging out with and doing a GFE with them would be really nice as well so it's got it's wonderful perks.
Seems you can have your cake and eat it too. Take in some K-Agencies up there and make some trips to Tijuana!...Yes, a night out with your buddies can be ton of fun in Tijuana. I have done that a number of times, and I always had fun.
But, speaking strictly about the sessions, the Korean WGs are superior IMO. They are more sophisticated, and know how to please a man. You get an overall better session with them. And if you are into Asian girls, they tend to be better looking as well.
Captain Solo
10-12-21, 17:30
Perhaps you can start a boxing school to train pussy-whipped gringos how to deal with their aggressive wives!
Hola Amigos:
As many will recall, I left Cali over a month ago to live and work in San Antonio. Bad idea. Since I moved to San Antonio, I have had nothing but bad luck. This includes getting side swiped in New Mexico by a big rig when two lanes merged into one, working a job that ended up to be a piece of crap labor camp type of employment, getting my front bumper and side panel of my car bashed in by a hit and run idiot at a grocery store. The bar scene in both Nuevo Laredo and Ciudad Acuna totally sucks. I was with a hottie in a bar called Pullmans in Nuevo Laredo. She was going to hang out with me all night and not work as long as I gave her some money for the whole day and night. I got sicker than a dog at one of the bars we went to and told her that I needed to go back to my hotel alone. She got pissed and threatened me, telling me. You leave and don't pay me and you will be very sorry. You will pay big time. This is as she started making calls to god knows who. So I ended up paying her so I didn't get my ass whipped by a band of cartel thugs. So, with this string of bad luck, I have decided to come back home to Cali.
Hola Amigos:
As many will recall, I left Cali over a month ago to live and work in San Antonio. Bad idea. Since I moved to San Antonio, I have had nothing but bad luck. This includes getting side swiped in New Mexico by a big rig when two lanes merged into one, working a job that ended up to be a piece of crap labor camp type of employment, getting my front bumper and side panel of my car bashed in by a hit and run idiot at a grocery store. The bar scene in both Nuevo Laredo and Ciudad Acuna totally sucks. I was with a hottie in a bar called Pullmans in Nuevo Laredo. She was going to hang out with me all night and not work as long as I gave her some money for the whole day and night. I got sicker than a dog at one of the bars we went to and told her that I needed to go back to my hotel alone. She got pissed and threatened me, telling me. You leave and don't pay me and you will be very sorry. You will pay big time. This is as she started making calls to god knows who. So I ended up paying her so I didn't get my ass whipped by a band of cartel thugs. So, with this string of bad luck, I have decided to come back home to Cali.
Captain Solo
10-12-21, 18:43
LeFeu,
It's great to visit the girls in Korea and have them guide you through local culture while getting hot sex on foreign soil. I hope she was also young and beautiful for your honeymoon hehe.
I tried Korean agencies and apartment girls. Most were older, no so hot and all strictly business. Some women in Korean and Asian agencies are shrunken geriatric women, they look disgusting, left alone touching, kissing and screwing.
In the best cases, the girls would be mid 30's, average-looking, really stressed for time. They typically shuttle you in, no social interaction, quickly get your clothes off, ride you to pop then push you out to make room for the next guys. The girls also rotate frequently to different locations so it's impossible to make connections. For me the sexeperiences with agency girls are impersonal and clinical at best, more like factory sex, not much better than making passionate love to a rubber doll hehe. However, a Korean-speaking guy has been doing $300 full-hour BB sessions with hot, young Korean girls and gets to know a few personally, taking them on local vacations with unlimited BB sex gratis like you did. These girls are pretty much isolated and put to work long hours everyday of the week for long stretch without rest or recreation. They also need real human connections which Korean guys have the advantages and can deliver.
I went to China many times, had the companies of some of the most beautiful girls but it was not fulfilling as we could not communicate even the simplest things. I spent a few days with Pinays in Manila, not as pretty as Chinese girls, but hey can really pump up my libido as they could communicate their wants and needs in English and we were screwing many times day and night BB. Young Pinays are sexier and a lot more fun and I still prefer the Phil over Thailand. The food, sight seeing, water sports, ocean recreations and night life entertainment are also way more exciting. Looking to do a S E Asia tour at year end when countries open up, Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Bali, Philippines. All sex destinations are only 1 to 2 hours nonstop flights apart costing no more than $50 each. Lots of hot, sexy girls are starving for sex, Any bro want to go at year end let me know.
I have more than my share of hot, sweet, sexy Latinas in Tijuana. Don't feel urgent urge to spend time flying down to South and Central America for more. But the bros should visit Buenos Aires to experience the life of a very gentle, noble, beautiful people of Argentina with their sweet, pretty girls and their life full arts, music, dances.
While you can get sex with agency girls in Socal, the sexperiences are those of selfishness, loneliness, desperation, like one ugly, senseless robot fucking another. The clubs in Tijuana are a lot more social and fun with large selections of girls. It's more fun and exciting to spend hours to flirt with girls, talk, grope, kiss, check them out, pump up your lust before taking them to the hotel for hot sessions. The chase is as much fun as the main events. A few wingmen, who speak zero Spanish, have made connections with HK girls for long, hot BB sessions and all nighters without surcharges.
Either way, if you spend time and money to cultivate the girls you will have more satisfying sessions, even relationships. You have to figure out which way is easier and less expensive.
LuvMexicanas
10-12-21, 19:47
Yes, a night out with your buddies can be ton of fun in Tijuana. I have done that a number of times, and I always had fun.
But, speaking strictly about the sessions, the Korean WGs are superior IMO. They are more sophisticated, and know how to please a man. You get an overall better session with them. And if you are into Asian girls, they tend to be better looking as well.Was in Seoul during the mid to late 90's as a very young man when the exchange rate exploded from 800-900 won per dollar to at one point 2000 won per dollar. It was once in a lifetime and yes Coreanas are amazing from a service and looks standpoint. Thin and pale beauties who have been cultured for thousands of years to cater to men is an unrivaled combination. Also, BBFS+CIP was the norm and rarely, if ever, any pussies with even the slightest off putting smell. If a girl liked you, she'd even get you a bibi (beeper) so she can reach you at all times. If only there were smart phones back then I'd post a barrage of photos that would fill the photo gallery, albeit not in the Tijuana threads.
Big Magick
10-12-21, 21:50
I've picked up chicas in normal bars but the ones I've picked up were not true civvies and instead young single moms out having a good time yet not opposed to making some milk money. That's the sweet spot for me because although pros, not hardened ones and at the same time lines don't get blurred because I'm paying. Just in a stage of my life right now where I just want the booty call as opposed to get caught up in a relationship. As for what Mexican women dream of, I don't know or care.So you meet them at a bar / club and you don't try to sleep with them for free? You just straight up tell them ill pay X amount to sleep with you? I'm curious about your process. Sounds like the sessions would be better than bar girls.
DramaFree11
10-12-21, 23:07
Perhaps you can start a boxing school to train pussy-whipped gringos how to deal with their aggressive wives!
Hola Amigos:
As many will recall, I left Cali over a month ago to live and work in San Antonio. Bad idea. Since I moved to San Antonio, I have had nothing but bad luck. This includes getting side swiped in New Mexico by a big rig when two lanes merged into one, working a job that ended up to be a piece of crap labor camp type of employment, getting my front bumper and side panel of my car bashed in by a hit and run idiot at a grocery store. The bar scene in both Nuevo Laredo and Ciudad Acuna totally sucks. I was with a hottie in a bar called Pullmans in Nuevo Laredo. She was going to hang out with me all night and not work as long as I gave her some money for the whole day and night. I got sicker than a dog at one of the bars we went to and told her that I needed to go back to my hotel alone. She got pissed and threatened me, telling me. You leave and don't pay me and you will be very sorry. You will pay big time. This is as she started making calls to god knows who. So I ended up paying her so I didn't get my ass whipped by a band of cartel thugs. So, with this string of bad luck, I have decided to come back home to Cali.Sorry for your bad luck. I have had the opposite experience. I love SA.
Laredo sucks, not sure why you thought it would be good. MTY is great, but is expensive. Hope things get better.
So you meet them at a bar / club and you don't try to sleep with them for free? You just straight up tell them ill pay X amount to sleep with you? I'm curious about your process. Sounds like the sessions would be better than bar girls.Mexican culture is different from the USA. It's more of a "feudal" society (although it's changing rapidly) and the "richer" person is expected to "help" the poorer person. Noblesse oblige. You don't do something as crude as saying Hi, want to screw for $100? You talk and flirt and do what you'd normally do to pick up the girl. At some point she may mention help with the rent. Or, she may not. But you, at some point, would ask if they need assistance with bills, or whatever. They do not consider it prostitution, and offering them money for sex would piss off many of them. Maybe it's a rose by another name, but it pays big dividends to be culturally sensitive. I help all of my civvie GFs when I see them. The amount varies, NONE of them consider it P4 P, and all of them are very happy to have the help.
LuvMexicanas
10-12-21, 23:49
So you meet them at a bar / club and you don't try to sleep with them for free? You just straight up tell them ill pay X amount to sleep with you? I'm curious about your process. Sounds like the sessions would be better than bar girls.What I'm saying is there are pros in regular bars but more along the lines of chicas having a good time yet won't pass up an opportunity to make some cash. A non-Mexican guy like me in a Centro bar by himself might as well have monger stamped on his forehead. As for process, you make eye contact and then things go where they go. Yes, the sessions are better but not all the time, as I have quite a few former agency chicas saved as contacts from getting their number if they give good service during the initial session through their agency. Many chicas work for an agency just for a week or two until they quickly realize walking into a random guy's room every night is not their cup of tea. I suspect some chicas build up some regulars and only go back to an agency when things dry up and they need to rebuild their clientele.
LuvMexicanas
10-13-21, 02:42
Mexican culture is different from the USA. It's more of a "feudal" society (although it's changing rapidly) and the "richer" person is expected to "help" the poorer person. Noblesse oblige. You don't do something as crude as saying Hi, want to screw for $100? You talk and flirt and do what you'd normally do to pick up the girl. At some point she may mention help with the rent. Or, she may not. But you, at some point, would ask if they need assistance with bills, or whatever. They do not consider it prostitution, and offering them money for sex would piss off many of them. Maybe it's a rose by another name, but it pays big dividends to be culturally sensitive. I help all of my civvie GFs when I see them. The amount varies, NONE of them consider it P4 P, and all of them are very happy to have the help.A much more eloquent explanation than mine earlier and exactly right, a rose by another name. Well said. I say pros to keep it short because lord knows we have some on the thread you'd swear are being paid per word and yes, you should never just offer money to fuck. It's a less direct culture so you eventually make your way around to assistance, which is why I like to use the expression milk money.
Sorry for your bad luck. I have had the opposite experience. I love SA.
Laredo sucks, not sure why you thought it would be good. MTY is great, but is expensive. Hope things get better.Kudos to the guys on this forum who share their bad learning experiences as it really does help others to make better decisions out there in the mongering world.
We have all made them and while it seems simple to hook up with a prostitute or even hang out in a bar. There are a ton of good and bad decisions that can be made to fuck up your evening or worse.
Thanks for sharing!
G.
Big Magick
10-13-21, 08:55
Mexican culture is different from the USA. It's more of a "feudal" society (although it's changing rapidly) and the "richer" person is expected to "help" the poorer person. Noblesse oblige. You don't do something as crude as saying Hi, want to screw for $100? You talk and flirt and do what you'd normally do to pick up the girl. At some point she may mention help with the rent. Or, she may not. But you, at some point, would ask if they need assistance with bills, or whatever. They do not consider it prostitution, and offering them money for sex would piss off many of them. Maybe it's a rose by another name, but it pays big dividends to be culturally sensitive. I help all of my civvie GFs when I see them. The amount varies, NONE of them consider it P4 P, and all of them are very happy to have the help.Thanks for the advice everyone and I would never be so crass to just proposition civies like that, even in the zona bars I make sure to talk and flirt with the girl first. I've learned making things less transactional benefits everyone. I get better service and she feels less guilt / shame or whatever about it. I really need to get in better shape so I can hit the nightlife outside of the zona LOL.
Interesting question as I wasn't really aware of "K-agencies" myself but mongered in Asia and of course Mexico. If your driving from LA then I can see where the costs is very comparable when you factor in the hotel etc. But, we are talking apples and oranges here in terms of experiences. In a given night I may only screw one girl, but I talked to many, had drinks, groped them, took them in a private room for private lap dance where I negotiated for her to be totally nude etc. I other girls that I am looking forward to fucking in the future etc, and I learned a bit about Mexico from the girls.
I was able to bounce between 2-3 bars that each have their on flavor of ambiance. Music etc. Sometimes check out a recommended restaurant, at times meet up with a buddy from the forum and exchange mongering experiences.
It really is "the whole enchilada" in Tijuana.
I have met a few Mexican girls I really enjoyed hanging out with and doing a GFE with them would be really nice as well so it's got it's wonderful perks.
Seems you can have your cake and eat it too. Take in some K-Agencies up there and make some trips to Tijuana!
Here is the Post Malone tune that embodies these opportunities..So here on the East Coast, we have a few K girl agencies that are rather hard to get into initially (lots of personal information required) but once you are in, the experience is great. I live in a major political area, and the going rate is $$$ for an hour. This is actually a bargain, as many of our providers are starting to hit $$ (independents). Its funny how you see inflation creep into the black market well before the regular areas (mostly). Anyways I love Tijuana and the K-Agencies so I feel like if I had the option for 1.60 for a half hour, that would be a great bargain. Just my opinion.
Mexican culture is different from the USA. It's more of a "feudal" society (although it's changing rapidly) and the "richer" person is expected to "help" the poorer person. Noblesse oblige. You don't do something as crude as saying Hi, want to screw for $100? You talk and flirt and do what you'd normally do to pick up the girl. At some point she may mention help with the rent. Or, she may not. But you, at some point, would ask if they need assistance with bills, or whatever. They do not consider it prostitution, and offering them money for sex would piss off many of them. Maybe it's a rose by another name, but it pays big dividends to be culturally sensitive. I help all of my civvie GFs when I see them. The amount varies, NONE of them consider it P4 P, and all of them are very happy to have the help.Yeah. I think that this is a big cultural misunderstanding, and we often wrongly typecast the chicas as gold diggers. It's not just us guys expected to help out the chicas financially. It's also the club chicas expected to give money to their moms, brothers, sisters, cousins, and even friends in distress. And from my personal experience at least, when you decline to help where you can help, they go ape shit. It took me a long time and a lot of misunderstandings to figure the Mexican culture out regarding help etiquette.
Cocr Brotheler
10-13-21, 19:04
Sorry for your bad luck. I have had the opposite experience. I love SA.
Laredo sucks, not sure why you thought it would be good. MTY is great, but is expensive. Hope things get better.https://www.audacy.com/krld/news/local/115-arrested-in-tarrant-county-human-trafficking-sting
Can you imagine that caught in the sting? Ruin your job, profession and life, have a felony on your record just for natural urges unmet in US!
They said in the article wouldn't have the human trafficking without the demand (B.S.). Cartels making $ hand over fist bringing whomever person across our southern border for whatever reason. Demand is the overall chance for a better life in U.S. Yes since p-tution illegal in U.S. organized crime gets involved and do take advantage of at risk women.
https://www.audacy.com/krld/news/local/115-arrested-in-tarrant-county-human-trafficking-sting
Can you imagine that caught in the sting? Ruin your job, profession and life, have a felony on your record just for natural urges unmet in US!
They said in the article wouldn't have the human trafficking without the demand (B.S.). Cartels making $ hand over fist bringing whomever person across our southern border for whatever reason. Demand is the overall chance for a better life in U.S. Yes since p-tution illegal in U.S. organized crime gets involved and do take advantage of at risk women.You got that right! Texas is such a BS state, and I would never live there!
https://www.audacy.com/krld/news/local/115-arrested-in-tarrant-county-human-trafficking-sting
Can you imagine that caught in the sting? Ruin your job, profession and life, have a felony on your record just for natural urges unmet in US!
They said in the article wouldn't have the human trafficking without the demand (B.S.). Cartels making $ hand over fist bringing whomever person across our southern border for whatever reason. Demand is the overall chance for a better life in U.S. Yes since p-tution illegal in U.S. organized crime gets involved and do take advantage of at risk women.115 arrested, 100% were men. This says all you need to know. Note that there were ZERO arrests of anybody actually involved in this "trafficking. " These shadowy kingpins, who smuggle and "traffic" these girls all over the country (if you actually believe this) somehow escaped. These noble cops and lawyers rescue these girls, but for some reason the girls never seem to roll over on their traffickers. So, there you have it. If a girl offers sex for money, she's the victim and in need of rescuing. If a man offers, he's a felon.
Captain Solo
10-13-21, 19:50
This is a very serious charge.
Soliciting arrests will likely go down but other sex crimes, rape, kidnap, murder will likely go up.
https://www.dallasjustice.com/buying-sex-in-texas-texas-is-first-state-in-usa-to-make-solicitation-of-prostitution-a-felony-offense/
Cocr Brotheler
10-14-21, 00:39
I haven't paid for many sessions in the states in my life nearing 55 years.
When I lived in South Florida in the early 2000's I did a handful of times because could get some nice talent and not too much $$. Then I discovered CR and Colombia and no need for it in US since I don't have to have it very often. Only one time in TX early 2011 and was a chance encounter in an elevator of a nice hotel where the woman asked if she could use my restroom LOL. I was not actively pursuing and she started the negotiations.
Sounds like these Johns all got caught on-line. The article Solo linked mentions if is a first offense and get a good lawyer then can get it dropped from your record but still! Even before upgrade of the offense I just didn't pursue due to not even wanting to be Misdemeanored on my record. I considered SA and SB but too much $$$ and hassle. I wonder what it is like on those sites now?
I'm thinking the recent Johns caught were going onto free or low cost social boards like on "To Catch a Predator" series and actively offering in a predatory manner but who knows?
San Diego/TJ just a 2.5 hour flight away when I can arrange my schedule. Have been thinking of pursuing work in CA to be closer but soon I think they will eliminate negative testing requirement for air travel back to U.S. and is game on for me for more trips south of the border.
This is a very serious charge.
Soliciting arrests will likely go down but other sex crimes, rape, kidnap, murder will likely go up.
https://www.dallasjustice.com/buying-sex-in-texas-texas-is-first-state-in-usa-to-make-solicitation-of-prostitution-a-felony-offense/If demand goes down girls will just go to other states to work which will probably piss off the girls from those areas and maybe the prices will go down in the non-felony states?
I think it's kind of funny that the religious right has Texas by the balls and "everything" that encompasses. It's one thing when they say "no abortion" but many men didn't give a shit as it does not affect them. But now some of the men's lives could get fucked up a bit with this new law. So as much as I hate to see it I think it's good that Texas feels the full weight of the BS laws they pass. Plus maybe it will drive more prostitution demand over the border in Mexico and get some of the money going down there.
Also those folks who claim they just had to move to Texas due to all the issues in CA. They brag a bit how good it is and yet life seems more and more not so great there.
Can't wait to see the next bullshit laws they pass in Texas.
Not trying to trash TX too much as I really like Houston and know several folks who live in that city. But just "saying". Tijuana is looking better and better.
G.
While Luke sounds like he will be out of state he did a heck of a sales pitch on Halloween in Tijuana / Norte. Have never been there for Halloween so it be tempting as it's a new adventure. Could be fun to meetup with a few from the forum if others make it down there.
https://youtu.be/dDo4irBJOaM
G.
https://www.audacy.com/krld/news/local/115-arrested-in-tarrant-county-human-trafficking-sting
Can you imagine that caught in the sting? Ruin your job, profession and life, have a felony on your record just for natural urges unmet in US!
They said in the article wouldn't have the human trafficking without the demand (B.S.). Cartels making $ hand over fist bringing whomever person across our southern border for whatever reason. Demand is the overall chance for a better life in U.S. Yes since p-tution illegal in U.S. organized crime gets involved and do take advantage of at risk women.It isn't just having a felony on your record. The troubling thing is also where you will jailed. Probably prison with the real Felons. General population.
With a misdemeanor, more often that not, you can plea out to a fine and probation. It's really the bread and butter of the court system. The money is used to pay the salaries of the court system employees. And if jailed, you are held in county jail with all the other jay-walkers. And it cost the county to host you. Hence the rate of a misdemeanor plea is so high.
Dcrist0527
10-14-21, 03:34
Thanks for the advice everyone and I would never be so crass to just proposition civies like that, even in the zona bars I make sure to talk and flirt with the girl first. I've learned making things less transactional benefits everyone. I get better service and she feels less guilt / shame or whatever about it. I really need to get in better shape so I can hit the nightlife outside of the zona LOL.I am the epitome of out of shape. But I do well in civie bars. I think Mexicanas are more forgiving. No doubt good looks help. But I would not say you need to delay.
I was Tuesday in Tijuana (pedestrian crossing San Ysidro ped east) and the first time I saw a Mexican officer had a sniffing dog and the dog was sniffing people entering Mexico. The dog looked like a brown spaniel (not a German shepherd used by the US CBP). There were four or five Mexican Marines with machine guns at the X-Ray machine, and they watched everyone as they entered. Do not bring any illegal items to Mexico because you're going to be in deep doo-doo (e. G. Weed is legal in California but illegal in Mexico).
This is a very serious charge.
Soliciting arrests will likely go down but other sex crimes, rape, kidnap, murder will likely go up.
https://www.dallasjustice.com/buying-sex-in-texas-texas-is-first-state-in-usa-to-make-solicitation-of-prostitution-a-felony-offense/A law pushed by haters and deviants.
Dickus Maximus
10-14-21, 16:51
I am the epitome of out of shape. But I do well in civie bars. I think Mexicanas are more forgiving. No doubt good looks help. But I would not say you need to delay.Curious as to where you go and what your approach is? I did have a girl at the Green Witch try to get me to join here and her friends going to another place. But one of her friends cock-blocked and said I was too old. (he's like 40 - if they only knew, LOL) Still, I don't find it easy to approach people at those places.
Curious as to where you go and what your approach is? I did have a girl at the Green Witch try to get me to join here and her friends going to another place. But one of her friends cock-blocked and said I was too old. (he's like 40 - if they only knew, LOL) Still, I don't find it easy to approach people at those places.In a Zona club it's not unusual for a guy to have relations with a girl one-third of his age. He's the paying customer. In civvie bars it will be a bit different. Generally speaking, you're going to have to be more "age appropriate." It won't necessarily be as bad as the USA, but if you're 50, for example, it'll be hard to pull a 22 year old. Women between, say, 35 and 40 would be more likely targets.
LuvMexicanas
10-14-21, 18:36
I did have a girl at the Green Witch try to get me to join here and her friends going to another place. But one of her friends cock-blocked and said I was too old.The friend may have saved you the expectation of picking up the tab. There is asking you to join in a genuine sense and asking you to join so her and her friends can drink on your dime.
Captain Solo
10-14-21, 18:44
Texas' recent felony prostitution and antiabortion laws, allowing any party to rat on and sue providers for bounties, are way too extreme. Soon they may have stricter laws against fornication and adultery if they are not already in the book. Texas' lawmakers prefer the citizens to praise the Lord while screwing their own children and cousins hehe.
OTOH Texas is not serious about prosecuting human traffickers and horny teachers screwing their young students, which seem to happen a lot in Texas.
Elon Musk and company are moving to Texas. These guys are highly stressed and wild. I figure they will have lots of run ins with redneck laws. Or Elon may just buy all those Bible-thumping pols and legislate Texas into a Philistine state just to keep his workers happy pumping out cars.
Dcrist0527
10-14-21, 19:28
Curious as to where you go and what your approach is? I did have a girl at the Green Witch try to get me to join here and her friends going to another place. But one of her friends cock-blocked and said I was too old. (he's like 40 - if they only knew, LOL) Still, I don't find it easy to approach people at those places.Most often, I've had success at El Copeo and at Rancho Grande.
I would stop short of saying I have an approach. I don't really go in those places to hunt so I'd credit luck more than an approach. But when I've had success, I just go to the bar, have a drink and just look around the room. If I make eye contact and get a smile, I'll raise my glass and ask them (by my motion, not verbally) if they'd like a drink. If they come over, chances are very high that things will go very well. I'm definitely passive because it's not a goal I have when I walk in. So it's a lot about luck, timing but most importantly, be approachable and welcoming. If guys aren't comfortable because of language or environment, then it just won't work.
Also, as others have said, the key word is help. After establishing rapport (do NOT lead with help), the conversation will naturally lead to her difficulties. That's your cue to offer help. Be direct but do not make it transactional. Here again, I am very passive, I'll sit and drink and talk for a long time. I enjoy the flirting and conversation. But if you offer help, she will know what you are talking about.
Las Pulgas is another place some have reported success. I haven't had any luck there. Chicas are usually in larger groups and it's just a different dynamic. It just hasn't worked for me.
Most importantly, realize that I am over 40, overweight, can't dance and my Spanish is limited. If I can do it, anyone can. Be approachable and you'll do well.
Curious as to where you go and what your approach is? I did have a girl at the Green Witch try to get me to join here and her friends going to another place. But one of her friends cock-blocked and said I was too old. (he's like 40 - if they only knew, LOL) Still, I don't find it easy to approach people at those places.A young gringo like under 33 shouldn't really be paying in HK. Partying in HK sure. But I know young guys who would go to beer garden place and get woman very easily. They were not tall either. Just walking into Mexico makes them go from a visual 7 to 9 due to woman not caring much about height.
Cocr Brotheler
10-15-21, 00:27
Maybe a game changer in the "transactional" dating scene here in TX?
I went out a couple weekends ago here in TX to see a Kiss cover band and most of the women in there were 30ish-50ish typical stuck up bitches.
Not that I was trying to hit on any of them however the only ones smiling at me and making eye contact were a couple of younger hotties. Makes me wonder if before the new law they could of possibly been on SA or SB web-sites but now with new law must go out and physically interact for clients versus being tracked on-line? I don't know and not interested in trying to find out. New law even makes me scared to try and regular date again.
Housing no longer cheap in TX either unless move to BFE. Use to be able to get on the fringes of the major cities a nice new 3 or 4 bedroom for low 200's. Now is $350 K-$500 K easily.
Captain Solo
10-15-21, 01:04
If you approach these stuck-up women in person, they may call in the sheriff for sexual harassment and sue you in civil court for destroying their chaste lives.
It would be easy to sting Sugar Babies in TX. Once there are agreements to exchange sex for money and the Sugar Babies show up to further the exchange, they can be arrested for prostitution and thrown in state prison 1 year to honeymoon with beefy butches.
Remember how FBI arrested the owners of Back Page in Texas? Potentially TX already has secret indictments for guys like the owner of SA. If he ever sets foot on Texas LE may be waiting. In fact FBI can use sugar babies as witness to charge SA owners with human trafficking, mail fraud, wire fraud, abusing interstate infrastructure, pimping and pandering. They can send out Red Notice to Interpol and the first time the guy crosses a border out of Singapore, they can arrest his ass and extradite to the US for prosecution.
Texas just loooooves to throw the big law book and the Bible at the evil, devil-possessed perverts who enable and facilitate sex, except the kinky and incestuous kinds practiced by their Bible thumping state officials.
Maybe a game changer in the "transactional" dating scene here in TX?
I went out a couple weekends ago here in TX to see a Kiss cover band and most of the women in there were 30ish-50ish typical stuck up bitches.
Not that I was trying to hit on any of them however the only ones smiling at me and making eye contact were a couple of younger hotties. Makes me wonder if before the new law they could of possibly been on SA or SB web-sites but now with new law must go out and physically interact for clients versus being tracked on-line? I don't know and not interested in trying to find out. New law even makes me scared to try and regular date again.
Housing no longer cheap in TX either unless move to BFE. Use to be able to get on the fringes of the major cities a nice new 3 or 4 bedroom for low 200's. Now is $350 K-$500 K easily.Considering it's a felony, I don't even think it's worth trying, especially since the law just kicked in and the politicians are going to be pushing Law Enforcement to show results for it to make the people feel like they are rooting the immoral degenerates out of their state, and stopping it from turning into Los Angeles or San Francisco.
Tiger Guy X2
10-15-21, 05:14
I saw this video on you tube from this dating coach about how once you go down the escort hooker route it's almost impossible to go back to normal girls. It's a real good video I thought you guys would like watching, but there is a mention in the video about these famous identical twin sisters in Brazil that were escorts. He talks about his friend and other guys flying from around the world to sleep with these identical twins. Did I miss this. I don't remember twins at Help or on the escort site. Anyone care to comment and know anything about these twins and did you hook up with them. Thanks.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ONtl6xjdk3sGiven this video was from a "dating coach" that's trying to sell you his services I watched this video with a skeptical eye. While I agree if you only use escorts and give up on regular dating you will have some cost to pay for that but the vast majority of guys aren't doing that. Most guys are still involved in the dating scene (if they are single or cheating) or with their significant other if they have a wife / girlfriend already so this decline he speaks of can easily be avoided by simply not going escort only which probably very few here will advise. I'd also so some of us may even see being able to pull women in our regular dating life that look like some of the best escorts we've bang as a challenge to aspire to which means we know there are things we need to work on to accomplish that.
I don't know about the so call famous identical twins though. No idea if that was a true story or just a made up story to demonstrate a point.
Texas' recent felony prostitution and antiabortion laws, allowing any party to rat on and sue providers for bounties, are way too extreme. Soon they may have stricter laws against fornication and adultery if they are not already in the book. Texas' lawmakers prefer the citizens to praise the Lord while screwing their own children and cousins hehe.
OTOH Texas is not serious about prosecuting human traffickers and horny teachers screwing their young students, which seem to happen a lot in Texas.
Elon Musk and company are moving to Texas. These guys are highly stressed and wild. I figure they will have lots of run ins with redneck laws. Or Elon may just buy all those Bible-thumping pols and legislate Texas into a Philistine state just to keep his workers happy pumping out cars.Prostitution was legal in the US (Texas, California, New York, Louisiana etc before 1914.) Now politicians cannot regulate even such a simple thing as legal prostitution. (I'm not a mathematician) but I figured out how much the state of California is losing money because it has illegal prostitution and money is spent by US citizens 10 minutes from the border in Tijuana's Zona Norte. For example, in one week, 1000 US guys spend $ US 250 / person in Zona Norte = $ US 250,000 / week. That's $ US 1 million per month. And now for a year, $ US 1 million x 52 weeks is $ US 52 million. The total is about $ US 52 million is spent in Mexico 10 minutes from the border in Zona Norte but not in California.
A law pushed by haters and deviants.That's not even close to being the end of the story. I remember when I first started my mongering life. I was sitting there in a bar located in a well-known Central American puta palace tossing one back. So, I'm looking up at the wall, and what do I see? Patches from police departments all over the United States! I'm like well I'll be damned! Will you look at this shit? So, these guys are back there arresting people for doing the same damn thing they're traveling abroad to do! It's not that I was particularly "surprised" by what I was seeing (people are going to be people). It was just having the hypocrisy so openly flaunted in my face. Well, it only gave me more encouragement to take more steps towards living my life the way I wanted to. I liked flying in and slam fucking all those pretty Ticas and Colombianas, and I wasn't going to stop it. Anybody else's morals (real or feigned) be damned!
We have a moral hangup about prostitution and this why it is illegal. People don't like seeing girls out on streets. So many girls dress so scantily in bikni's or lingerie & standing in the middle of the streets only riles up the locals. It is only within the past 5 or 6 years that the girls started dressing like this. I can understand people that live in the neighborhoods get irritated when they act like this. My own belief is that eros centers like they have in Germany is the best solution. They are discreet & guys can still have fun at a reasonable price. The Eros centers have largely eliminated the pimps as well. As for Texas it is ridiculous that they have made prostitution a felony. Let's remember that a felony is defined as penalty that carries a sentence of 1 year or more. I seriously doubt prostitution will be legalized in the CA however.
Prostitution was legal in the US (Texas, California, New York, Louisiana etc before 1914.) Now politicians cannot regulate even such a simple thing as legal prostitution. (I'm not a mathematician) but I figured out how much the state of California is losing money because it has illegal prostitution and money is spent by US citizens 10 minutes from the border in Tijuana's Zona Norte. For example, in one week, 1000 US guys spend $ US 250 / person in Zona Norte = $ US 250,000 / week. That's $ US 1 million per month. And now for a year, $ US 1 million x 52 weeks is $ US 52 million. The total is about $ US 52 million is spent in Mexico 10 minutes from the border in Zona Norte but not in California.
We have a moral hangup about prostitution and this why it is illegal. People don't like seeing girls out on streets. So many girls dress so scantily in bikni's or lingerie & standing in the middle of the streets only riles up the locals. It is only within the past 5 or 6 years that the girls started dressing like this. I can understand people that live in the neighborhoods get irritated when they act like this. My own belief is that eros centers like they have in Germany is the best solution. They are discreet & guys can still have fun at a reasonable price. The Eros centers have largely eliminated the pimps as well. As for Texas it is ridiculous that they have made prostitution a felony. Let's remember that a felony is defined as penalty that carries a sentence of 1 year or more. I seriously doubt prostitution will be legalized in the CA however.Yeah, it's going to take a while, if it ever happens. They've been trying in San Francisco since I can remember and the measure always loses by large margins.
These days the police sort of tolerate the SW's or until they become a nuisance or their superior's tell them to crack down. SDPD cut back vice to 1 officer at the sub-stations.
Yeah, it's going to take a while, if it ever happens. They've been trying in San Francisco since I can remember and the measure always loses by large margins.
Member #4730
10-15-21, 21:46
Mexican culture is different from the USA. It's more of a "feudal" society (although it's changing rapidly) and the "richer" person is expected to "help" the poorer person. Noblesse oblige. You don't do something as crude as saying Hi, want to screw for $100? You talk and flirt and do what you'd normally do to pick up the girl. At some point she may mention help with the rent. Or, she may not. But you, at some point, would ask if they need assistance with bills, or whatever. They do not consider it prostitution, and offering them money for sex would piss off many of them. Maybe it's a rose by another name, but it pays big dividends to be culturally sensitive. I help all of my civvie GFs when I see them. The amount varies, NONE of them consider it P4 P, and all of them are very happy to have the help.I wish I would have known this before my conversation with a regular on the last night in Cancun. She said it is normal and her previous boyfriends helped when they could. I told her in all of my previous relationships they never asked for a dime and also weren't materialistic. She said she wasn't either, but her previous job only covered daily living basics and if emergency occurred, then a boyfriend would help out. She tells her family I'm her boyfriend in Tijuana and that justifies her money she received while working at HK.
I told her they should be smart enough to figure out a gringo that she just met isn't going to give her enough cash for her to get them a car and take them on vacations. She said she needs to focus on helping herself since her family hasn't provided her support since she was 17. Fucked up reality, but sure most struggle. Also she told me a story of how she was raped by an older boyfriend and had to have an abortion at 17. Really fucked me up, but sure most have their challenges their dealing with. Fun Cancun trip and feels like a dream for the first 3 days. Things got back on course the next day, but at night it felt like a bad marriage where we both sleep with our backs to each other and she played a Bruno Mars song I haven’t heard of that hit me hard “Talking to the moon.”
Mexican culture is different from the USA. It's more of a "feudal" society (although it's changing rapidly) and the "richer" person is expected to "help" the poorer person. Noblesse oblige. You don't do something as crude as saying Hi, want to screw for $100? You talk and flirt and do what you'd normally do to pick up the girl. At some point she may mention help with the rent. Or, she may not. But you, at some point, would ask if they need assistance with bills, or whatever. They do not consider it prostitution, and offering them money for sex would piss off many of them. Maybe it's a rose by another name, but it pays big dividends to be culturally sensitive. I help all of my civvie GFs when I see them. The amount varies, NONE of them consider it P4 P, and all of them are very happy to have the help.Well, I've got news for people. American culture is the same with respect to this. I know it from direct experience! You start dating a "civvie" girl and you're going out and you're fucking her, and then she starts feeling entitled and justified in asking for a little "help" every now and then because she's giving up the pussy. This kind of thing is hardly exclusive to either Mexico or the United States. Like a buddy of mine said, it's like the value of the dick she's getting isn't worth enough! That's not an even up trade in her mind, so the guy is expected to start throwing in some "help" (money) every now and then. But oh no she's not a tute! And what if the guy needs some help and asks her for some? Oh, now all of a sudden he's a freeloader and taking advantage! I for one can say I never asked a civvie girlfriend for one red cent, and got tired of some acting like I owed them some "help" just because we were fucking. That pussy isn't gold!
I wish I would have known this before my conversation with a regular on the last night in Cancun. She said it is normal and her previous boyfriends helped when they could. I told her in all of my previous relationships they never asked for a dime and also weren't materialistic. She said she wasn't either, but her previous job only covered daily living basics and if emergency occurred, then a boyfriend would help out. She tells her family I'm her boyfriend in Tijuana and that justifies her money she received while working at HK.
I told her they should be smart enough to figure out a gringo that she just met isn't going to give her enough cash for her to get them a car and take them on vacations. She said she needs to focus on helping herself since her family hasn't provided her support since she was 17. Fucked up reality, but sure most struggle. Also she told me a story of how she was raped by an older boyfriend and had to have an abortion at 17. Really fucked me up, but sure most have their challenges their dealing with. Fun Cancun trip and feels like a dream for the first 3 days. Things got back on course the next day, but at night it felt like a bad marriage where we both sleep with our backs to each other and she played a Bruno Mars song I havent heard of that hit me hard Talking to the moon.I don't want to presume anything about the girl, but I have plenty of family in Mexico, and the boyfriends were never expected to help the girlfriends family financially when things got bad. They are expected to provide for her once your marry her, and possibly help the family, but you're not there.
I will say this, her family might not actually put 2-and-2 together about her work, because it's the idealized dream of every Mexican mother that her daughter finds herself a rich guy to look after her daughter, and that might be the line she feeds when about why she goes to work at the border, in hopes of finding a solid middle-to-upper-class Norteo. Her family might intentionally have blinders on.
Some Mexican families do put pressure on their Children to help them with money, even if they're grown ass adults not living at home, and if she's been lying about where the money comes from, she may have worked herself into a bind. I have a buddy who's mom just paid $60 k cash for a piece of land in a gated Colonia, and when I asked him where the hell she (who doesn't work) got that kind of money, he said it was from her savings of the money each of the grown kids give her each month. Family financial situations that come up are expected to be solved, whenever possible within the family- like they all pull together to figure it out. That's the cultural part. Hitting up the boyfriends for money is outside of that, unless you've made her think you've got plenty of disposable cash, and are willing to help her out with whatever she needs.
Sorry to hear the last night was rough, but the "I need to send money back home and I'm short, can you help me out?" conversations are probably not going to stop.
LuvMexicanas
10-16-21, 01:02
Well, I've got news for people. American culture is the same with respect to this. I know it from direct experience! You start dating a "civvie" girl and you're going out and you're fucking her, and then she starts feeling entitled and justified in asking for a little "help" every now and then because she's giving up the pussy. This kind of thing is hardly exclusive to either Mexico or the United States. Like a buddy of mine said, it's like the value of the dick she's getting isn't worth enough! That's not an even up trade in her mind, so the guy is expected to start throwing in some "help" (money) every now and then. But oh no she's not a tute! And what if the guy needs some help and asks her for some? Oh, now all of a sudden he's a freeloader and taking advantage! I for one can say I never asked a civvie girlfriend for one red cent, and got tired of some acting like I owed them some "help" just because we were fucking. That pussy isn't gold!I've had the opposite experience with American women as far back as my college days. Fiercely independent and were pay their own way kinda gals. Took a chic to Vegas during grad school and she insisted on splitting all travel expenses 50/50. American women that I've dated have also taken me out to eat and paid. Women I have spent time with in Mexico and Asia have never attempted to pay for anything. It's not even alligator arms. It's just so culturally ingrained. For example, American girls have given me genuine thank yours for taking them out and footing the bill. That never happened with Asian or Mexican chicas I've dated. Of course, the guy should pay for the date is the mentally that I've experienced.
Member #4730
10-16-21, 02:45
I don't want to presume anything about the girl, but I have plenty of family in Mexico, and the boyfriends were never expected to help the girlfriends family financially when things got bad. They are expected to provide for her once your marry her, and possibly help the family, but you're not there.
I will say this, her family might not actually put 2-and-2 together about her work, because it's the idealized dream of every Mexican mother that her daughter finds herself a rich guy to look after her daughter, and that might be the line she feeds when about why she goes to work at the border, in hopes of finding a solid middle-to-upper-class Norteo. Her family might intentionally have blinders on.
Some Mexican families do put pressure on their Children to help them with money, even if they're grown ass adults not living at home, and if she's been lying about where the money comes from, she may have worked herself into a bind. I have a buddy who's mom just paid $60 k cash for a piece of land in a gated Colonia, and when I asked him where the hell she (who doesn't work) got that kind of money, he said it was from her savings of the money each of the grown kids give her each month. Family financial situations that come up are expected to be solved, whenever possible within the family- like they all pull together to figure it out. That's the cultural part. Hitting up the boyfriends for money is outside of that, unless you've made her think you've got plenty of disposable cash, and are willing to help her out with whatever she needs.
Sorry to hear the last night was rough, but the "I need to send money back home and I'm short, can you help me out?" conversations are probably not going to stop.I am waiting for that request to help family to drop, but we are going to Paris for New Years as it was her "dream. " I just did it since I don't have a significant other anymore and more of a gift for her graduation from university. I put a time limit on "support" as I told her to have a normal relationship, it shouldn't involve providing "support" money and I do the same with my kids. I only support for so long and then kick them out of the nest to fly or flop. You can only help people enough so they can help themselves. If she needs continual support, then sure other guys will be lining up. We went to Coco Bongo and they picked her twice to be in the show. Some guy from Germany was trying to hit on her and so was another Mexican dude, but I don't speak Spanish and plus we are just "friends.
She was drunk the first night and was crying asking if she was pretty and I said sure and she should know from all of the attention she received. The guy working at the club gave his contact info if she wanted a job. I joked and said she should move to Cancun and I could visit. She admitted that she is insecure and I said only you can be satisfied with your looks and don't seek out confirmation from other people. She reminds me of some chick from the mid-west that grew up in the country and comes to LA or any large city and realizes their beauty once they get so much attention. I actually prefer to be low key and behind the scenes kind of guy, but they kept pointing the camera that displays on the big screens our direction while she was dancing. Fun times!
Cocr Brotheler
10-16-21, 06:29
"If you approach these stuck-up women in person, they may call in the sheriff for sexual harassment and sue you in civil court for destroying their chaste lives. ".
Exactly what I'm scared of even before the Sex Felony Law. Sometimes I get questions from family or some friends why I'm still single but only protecting myself women have so many rights and men almost always wrong in USA. I scared these days to even try and arouse/get sensual a date. Fuck it I'd rather just go to TJ and pay for it, no issues no complications no legal risks.
For now I have to stay and work in TX 1-3 more years then I could move wherever in the world. Would like Thailand or PI but feels so far away + I been all over Colombia and speak a decent Spanish so why not permanent base myself there for awhile? Or somewhere in Mexico. If I really itch to leave TX sooner would try to get a job in CA or back to FL. I loved some aspects of South Florida but women just as stuck up (not all if you go the local bars and night clubs). P4P in FL especially Ft. Lauderdale and Miami more overlooked by LE and certainly not a felony + if can travel freely CR and Colombia so close for long weekends!
If woman in U.S. completely gets her way everything Ok however if make just 1 mis-step however trivial watch out!
Big Magick
10-16-21, 09:19
"If you approach these stuck-up women in person, they may call in the sheriff for sexual harassment and sue you in civil court for destroying their chaste lives. ".
Exactly what I'm scared of even before the Sex Felony Law. Sometimes I get questions from family or some friends why I'm still single but only protecting myself women have so many rights and men almost always wrong in USA. I scared these days to even try and arouse/get sensual a date. Fuck it I'd rather just go to TJ and pay for it, no issues no complications no legal risks.
For now I have to stay and work in TX 1-3 more years then I could move wherever in the world. Would like Thailand or PI but feels so far away + I been all over Colombia and speak a decent Spanish so why not permanent base myself there for awhile? Or somewhere in Mexico. If I really itch to leave TX sooner would try to get a job in CA or back to FL. I loved some aspects of South Florida but women just as stuck up (not all if you go the local bars and night clubs). P4P in FL especially Ft. Lauderdale and Miami more overlooked by LE and certainly not a felony + if can travel freely CR and Colombia so close for long weekends!
If woman in U.S. completely gets her way everything Ok however if make just 1 mis-step however trivial watch out!I've seen many men's lives ruined by false accusations from women. People say I'm too young to monger, that I should be getting it "free" and I have before but I have my reasons, the things you state being one of them. Colombia sounds like heaven from what I read on the forums. Maybe one day but for now the plan is move to Mexico, close to Tijuana and bang beautiful Mexican women. Dating in America is time consuming, risky, the women are not feminine and often greedy, way more greedy than Mexican women. The juice is not worth the squeeze in America anymore.
Captain Solo
10-16-21, 16:27
Cocr.
There are so may problems and legal liabilities between the sexes that Millennials are not dating, shacking up or getting married. The main problem is US women's inflated sense of entitlements that destroys any trust or love in the relationships.
A few of my wingmen have so much headache with their mates that they are not worth living with. It's better to go to Tijuana to flirt with hot girls, get love and sex and go home to relax to normal life.
I've had the opposite experience with American women as far back as my college days. Fiercely independent and were pay their own way kinda gals. Took a chic to Vegas during grad school and she insisted on splitting all travel expenses 50/50. American women that I've dated have also taken me out to eat and paid. Women I have spent time with in Mexico and Asia have never attempted to pay for anything. It's not even alligator arms. It's just so culturally ingrained. For example, American girls have given me genuine thank yours for taking them out and footing the bill. That never happened with Asian or Mexican chicas I've dated. Of course, the guy should pay for the date is the mentally that I've experienced.Well, I guess it's on me then since I keep picking chicks who look good, but don't have much money. LOL!
Cocr.
There are so may problems and legal liabilities between the sexes that Millennials are not dating, shacking up or getting married. The main problem is US women's inflated sense of entitlements that destroys any trust or love in the relationships.
A few of my wingmen have so much headache with their mates that they are not worth living with. It's better to go to Tijuana to flirt with hot girls, get love and sex and go home to relax to normal life.So true, Cap. In 2017, California passed a bill making it a crime for a man to remove a condom during sex or to engage is bare sex without.
Verbal consent. This is now a crime under sexual battery so you can go to jail and be sued. Good luck if a girl decides to get you on this one.
Difficult to prove but the black robes will lean toward the "victim". Condom breaking during sex is included in the bill.
Tijuana is the way to go.
LuvMexicanas
10-16-21, 20:30
Well, I guess it's on me then since I keep picking chicks who look good, but don't have much money. LOL!I am cognizant of a chica's resources when I date in America. Does that make me a gold digger?
ScatManDoo
10-17-21, 00:25
I am cognizant of a chica's resources when I date in America. Does that make me a gold digger?If you're only going for chicks with deep pockets, it does.
LuvMexicanas
10-17-21, 05:43
If you're only going for chicks with deep pockets, it does.Deep pockets are your words. I was referring to chicas being able to hold their own.
"If you approach these stuck-up women in person, they may call in the sheriff for sexual harassment and sue you in civil court for destroying their chaste lives. ".
Exactly what I'm scared of even before the Sex Felony Law. Sometimes I get questions from family or some friends why I'm still single but only protecting myself women have so many rights and men almost always wrong in USA. I scared these days to even try and arouse/get sensual a date. Fuck it I'd rather just go to TJ and pay for it, no issues no complications no legal risks.
If woman in U.S. completely gets her way everything Ok however if make just 1 mis-step however trivial watch out!I plan to donate to the men's rights club exactly because I think men no longer have much rights due to $Metoo-extremists. The politicians and like eunuchs who cave in due to their own fears.
I bet guys are now too scared to pick up a drunk woman at a bar.
The pendulum has swung too much to #metoo.
Me too extremists are like terrorists.
Tijuana works for me. And there is no club like HongKong Club.
We have a moral hangup about prostitution and this why it is illegal. People don't like seeing girls out on streets. So many girls dress so scantily in bikni's or lingerie & standing in the middle of the streets only riles up the locals. It is only within the past 5 or 6 years that the girls started dressing like this. I can understand people that live in the neighborhoods get irritated when they act like this. My own belief is that eros centers like they have in Germany is the best solution. They are discreet & guys can still have fun at a reasonable price. The Eros centers have largely eliminated the pimps as well. As for Texas it is ridiculous that they have made prostitution a felony. Let's remember that a felony is defined as penalty that carries a sentence of 1 year or more. I seriously doubt prostitution will be legalized in the CA however.USA constitution says we are entitle to "pursuit of happiness" - but the religious assholes make prostitution illegal.
Not only is prostitution illegal in San Francisco but the police actually set up stings to lure men and arrest them. I know of close friends who got nabbed by this.
Some men should have the balls to sue prostitution laws as unconstitutional. Elliott Spitzer should do it.
ScatManDoo
10-17-21, 16:57
Deep pockets are your words. I was referring to chicas being able to hold their own.You need to rent a sense of humor.
I am cognizant of a chica's resources when I date in America. Does that make me a gold digger?That makes you smart. Thinking with both the big head and the little head.
LuvMexicanas
10-17-21, 17:45
You need to rent a sense of humor.Well, will you accept a few trinkets or regalos as rent?
Captain Solo
10-17-21, 20:03
Our bro NeverOnce has personally struggled with horrific spousal abuses and came out triumphant. He's now a Tijuana devotee.
NeverOnce is highly experienced in litigation. He's a good man to have on your side if you are suing or being sued by anyone. He can get you the multi million compensations you deserve.
Member #4730
10-17-21, 20:38
That makes you smart. Thinking with both the big head and the little head.Less damage to your wallet and never have to deal with family emergency requests. I'm amazed at how bad the bar girls budgeting skills are compared to my ex and her family that were middle / upper class Mexicans. The bar girls think of future money to pay back current debts. One said she is getting approved for a credit card and I just died inside as I think they see Americans just swiping, but no idea the bill comes due with high interest if not paid off every month.
USA constitution says we are entitle to "pursuit of happiness" - but the religious assholes make prostitution illegal.
Not only is prostitution illegal in San Francisco but the police actually set up stings to lure men and arrest them. I know of close friends who got nabbed by this.
Some men should have the balls to sue prostitution laws as unconstitutional. Elliott Spitzer should do it.I lived in the San Francisco Bay Area in the 1990's. Market Street Cinema was a legendary place (strip show, lap dances, wall dances and more behind the stage). Also there were famous Asian massage salons offering everything. Everything was closed. I have nothing against gays and lesbians but they have it all in San Francisco: gay clubs, big gay parade, gay porn movie festival etc. If you're straight in SF you're a second class citizen for paying for sex you will be arrested and sent to a so-called "John school" for the re-education course. (but not free, fee various from $ 400 to $ 1500 per course). You're right it's illegal that prostitution is illegal. Around 1914, prostitution became illegal in the state of California without any state referendum, and it was the decision of the then governor under pressure from women who had just been given the right to vote and to moral and religious organizations.
I lived in the San Francisco Bay Area in the 1990's. Market Street Cinema was a legendary place (strip show, lap dances, wall dances and more behind the stage). Also there were famous Asian massage salons offering everything. Everything was closed. I have nothing against gays and lesbians but they have it all in San Francisco: gay clubs, big gay parade, gay porn movie festival etc. If you're straight in SF you're a second class citizen for paying for sex you will be arrested and sent to a so-called "John school" for the re-education course. (but not free, fee various from $ 400 to $ 1500 per course). You're right it's illegal that prostitution is illegal. Around 1914, prostitution became illegal in the state of California without any state referendum, and it was the decision of the then governor under pressure from women who had just been given the right to vote and to moral and religious organizations.There ought to be a law. And the Market Street Cinema. Oh, those were the days wink, wink!
USA constitution says we are entitle to "pursuit of happiness" - but the religious assholes make prostitution illegal.
Not only is prostitution illegal in San Francisco but the police actually set up stings to lure men and arrest them. I know of close friends who got nabbed by this.
Some men should have the balls to sue prostitution laws as unconstitutional. Elliott Spitzer should do it.If you think that religious people in San Francisco are behind this, well, as mom used to say, you've got another think coming!
I don't want to presume anything about the girl, but I have plenty of family in Mexico, and the boyfriends were never expected to help the girlfriends family financially when things got bad. They are expected to provide for her once your marry her, and possibly help the family, but you're not there.
I will say this, her family might not actually put 2-and-2 together about her work, because it's the idealized dream of every Mexican mother that her daughter finds herself a rich guy to look after her daughter, and that might be the line she feeds when about why she goes to work at the border, in hopes of finding a solid middle-to-upper-class Norteo. Her family might intentionally have blinders on.
Some Mexican families do put pressure on their Children to help them with money, even if they're grown ass adults not living at home, and if she's been lying about where the money comes from, she may have worked herself into a bind. I have a buddy who's mom just paid $60 k cash for a piece of land in a gated Colonia, and when I asked him where the hell she (who doesn't work) got that kind of money, he said it was from her savings of the money each of the grown kids give her each month. Family financial situations that come up are expected to be solved, whenever possible within the family- like they all pull together to figure it out. That's the cultural part. Hitting up the boyfriends for money is outside of that, unless you've made her think you've got plenty of disposable cash, and are willing to help her out with whatever she needs.
Sorry to hear the last night was rough, but the "I need to send money back home and I'm short, can you help me out?" conversations are probably not going to stop.Very well said. Only serious low-life moochers will hit up a girl's "rich" boyfriend / husband for money. In the roughly 10 years I've known my main squeeze I've only been asked to contribute twice, as far as I can remember. Once was to chip in to help buy some medical supplies for mom, who had just had a hip replacement. A toilet seat extension, a walker, etc. And once, some cousin apparently pissed of some local narco and the cousin disappeared. They found his body several days later and I contributed a few bux to help bury the poor kid. I had a Thai "sister" for a number of years. She explained a lot about "normal" Thai families. (I find Thai culture has many parallels to Mexican culture) Families take care of financial emergencies within themselves. It would have to be something extremely dire, life and death, for them to ask a daughter's BF for money. My long-time Thai ex-GF said similar. If Somchai came sniffing around for money, she *might* consent to lend him a few baht with the proviso he pay it back. Should he not, there would not be another baht forthcoming. In other words, ClownDays is right. A "decent" family will not treat a daughter's BF as some sort of walking ATF. If that were to happen, the thing to do is to head for the nearest exit.
I lived in the San Francisco Bay Area in the 1990's. Market Street Cinema was a legendary place (strip show, lap dances, wall dances and more behind the stage). Also there were famous Asian massage salons offering everything. Everything was closed. I have nothing against gays and lesbians but they have it all in San Francisco: gay clubs, big gay parade, gay porn movie festival etc. If you're straight in SF you're a second class citizen for paying for sex you will be arrested and sent to a so-called "John school" for the re-education course. (but not free, fee various from $ 400 to $ 1500 per course). You're right it's illegal that prostitution is illegal. Around 1914, prostitution became illegal in the state of California without any state referendum, and it was the decision of the then governor under pressure from women who had just been given the right to vote and to moral and religious organizations.So true Rambo. Isn't it funny. Its not pursuit of our happiness its pursuit of their version of happiness.
G.
When I visited in July they tried to hit me up for $30 FMM.
I bribed the guy $20 for 1 time visit thinking Covid will soon be over.
For those who crossed by foot recently are they still hitting you up for the $30 FMM fee or is it back to normal with free forms that you just fill out?
Before people reply with why I care about just $30 . I am cheap & it is the principal of it and I am just trying to gather intel before I visit near end of October so that I can be prepared.
Captain Solo
10-18-21, 07:27
Rambo,
These are words of the wise.
If the bros pursue any illegal activities involving prostitution in major metropolitan areas, like street hookers. Massage parlors or web sites escorts, eventually they will be caught in police stings.
About early 2000's, a guy I know worked in managerial level at a Fortune 50 industrial company in LA, employing tens of thousands workers. On Friday paydays street hookers would line the major streets around the factories in that blighted industrial area, not residential, at lunch time and into the night. The guy went out to lunch and spotted a slutty-looking young girl hanging out near a motel. He stopped the car to offer her a "ride" and was quickly surrounded, man handled, cuffed up in a police van with a dozen other workers, a few even knew him at work.
The local police did not have evidence that he actually offered money for sex or took aany furtherance act for prostitution but they arrested and booked him anyway. Local paper published names and booking pictures of arrestees the same week and most people at work quickly knew about his arrest, of course his wife quickly heard about it. He was shamed, had to quit his high-paying job. Peer pressure pushed his wife to divorce him, lost his home, his children no longer looked him in the face. He had to hire a high-powered and highly respected attorney, who was a respected local pro-temp judge, to fight the charge. There was a lot of legal wrangling, bluffs and threats, between the defense attorney and the city attorney of that small blighted city, who normally would only prosecute $50 parking and $500 speeding tickets in court, but he had some help from the county the. A. office. The case dragged out for over a year until the city attorney decided to drop the case. He cleared his name but by then had run up about $20 K in attorney's fees, lost his job and his family.
He spent a few more thousands for the attorney to expunge his name from the records of that municipal court, but when he traveled on business by himself and tried to enter Canada by air, the Canadian Immigration was suspicious of single male travelers, pulled up his arrest records, and based on information on that prostitution case deemed him a sex tourist, denied him entry into Canada. He was totally fucked.
After losing his job and the divorce, he was in Las Vegas for some R&R, found a nice, clean middle-aged woman in front of a late night coffee shop near downtown and started talking. She suggested partying in the motel nearby. He followed her to her room and was quickly cuffed by half dozen cops waiting inside. He was an intelligent and educated guy, but the allure of pumping hot, wet pussies can sometimes cloud a man's judgment and prudence. Attorneys in LV wanted thousands $ to defend the case but he found a discount firm that charged only $1 K to plead down to a jay walking charge. However, the circumstances of his arrest remain in court records. It's scary how LEs, Immigration, FBI, HSI can pull up arrest records and court information decades old with all the juicy details. Damn.
I used to go out to lunch and dinner with him in strip bars near LAX, where he was a broken man, drinking all night, pouring his guts out that a small indiscretion avalanched into events that completely destroyed everything in his life. It's a very sad story of the complete destruction of a man and his family by LE and the municipal legal system which I would not want to see happen to anyone else.
Prosecution of prostitution-related vices are even fiercer now with emphases on human trafficking. Be careful and try to stay well away from any acts even only fringing the laws. Lots of hungry attorneys on government payrolls would love to take you on for righteous causes and over time pay.
Mongering is such a large hobby of many I think some bank should offer a Mongering credit card. Instead of cash back perhaps a blow job or free massage with a happy ending once in a while. Should be able to find a bank in Thailand to make this happen.
G.
So many politicians and others have been burned with sexual harassment charges, Metooed, rape claims etc. Bill Clinton got burned, as did Mayor Filner of San Diego, Weinstein and many others years later like Bill Cosby. Most of their problems could have been avoided by partying with women outside the USA or feminist countries like Sweden or Australia. After the feminist Metoo movement, guys in the USA are starting to realize that American women are very risky to be around. Check out www dot goingyourownway dot com forum lounge for the latest advice for avoiding divorce, sex harassment claims, feminists, alimony etc.
Rambo,
These are words of the wise.
If the bros pursue any illegal activities involving prostitution in major metropolitan areas, like street hookers. Massage parlors or web sites escorts, eventually they will be caught in police stings.
About early 2000's, a guy I know worked in managerial level at a Fortune 50 industrial company in LA, employing tens of thousands workers. On Friday paydays street hookers would line the major streets around the factories in that blighted industrial area, not residential, at lunch time and into the night. The guy went out to lunch and spotted a slutty-looking young girl hanging out near a motel. He stopped the car to offer her a "ride" and was quickly surrounded, man handled, cuffed up in a police van with a dozen other workers, a few even knew him at work..
Captain Solo
10-18-21, 18:19
Women's happiness is to send their spouses to hell and keep them their forever.
A divorce attorney friend said in every case, the women will accuse their husband of sexually abusing their children just to hurt them. Some of these women are educated, responsible professional, but when they get angry, they would do anything regardless how ugly, stupid or ugly.
In most cases, continued fights by divorces couples end up selling off most of their assets to pay the attorneys.
.....Prosecution of prostitution-related vices are even fiercer now with emphases on human trafficking....Yet the nasty scum that are the human traffickers are never arrested. Is this deliberate?
Captain Solo
10-18-21, 19:10
Turgid,
In most prostitution stings you would read dozens of Johns' names but never the pimp or traffickers. I don't think they could ever get near the pimps. I am guessing most arrested hookers, or trafficked "victims" would return to hooking and their pimps, so they don't rat them out.
If prostitution is decriminalized then hookers won't need pimps so there will be no trafficking problems to solve. By criminalizing it the women have to work underground and need pimps for support.
Captain Solo
10-18-21, 20:16
These guys are foolish to flirt with the laws:
https://www.mysuncoast.com/2021/10/18/hcso-announces-arrests-human-trafficking-sting-teacher-pastor-among-suspects/
Tampa, Fla. (WWSB) - Officials in Hillsborough County have announced a human trafficking sting operation that resulted in the arrest of 125 individuals.
Sheriff Chad Chronister held a press conference Monday on Operation Round-Up. Undercover detectives were also able to free four individuals, including a 17-year-old girl. A teacher and pastor were among the suspects, Chronister reported.
Joel Velasco, who was an employee of Hillsborough County Schools, was charged with soliciting another to commit prostitution.
Deputies worked 20 days on the sting and say some of the suspects believed they were messaging minors, sending explicit texts. You can watch the entire press conference below.
... $30 FMM ...I walked in at San Ysidro 3 weeks ago and they barely glanced at my passport before waving me through. YMMV.
And, of course, there's never any FMM issue when I drive in.
Captain Solo
10-18-21, 21:06
In the US corporate world there are way too much risks in working with women. Everything you do can be misinterpreted as sexual harassment. Bill Gates is now accused of harassing his employees.
Goingyourownway site has some serious discussions. Thanks for introducing it.
Captain Solo
10-18-21, 23:00
Looks like states are stepping up on sex stings recently:
https://www.wlwt.com/article/ohio-ag-161-arrested-during-state-s-largest-ever-anti-human-trafficking-sting/37849346
WLWT Updated: 12:39 PM EDT Oct 4, 2021 Infinite Scroll Enabled COLUMBUS, Ohio —.
Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost announced Monday that 161 men were arrested and 51 potential human trafficking victims were helped as part of a statewide anti-human trafficking operation.
The anti-human trafficking sting titled "Ohio Knows" took place over the course of a week, resulting in the arrest of 161 men who solicited sex, three of whom were trying to solicit sex from a minor, Yost said.
It was the largest sting in the history of Ohio to date.
"People who traffic other humans are doing it for a really simple reason — money. And if there's no demand then there will be no market," Yost said Monday morning during a press conference at the Statehouse. "Reducing the demand means we reduce the number of people who are victimized by human trafficking.
More than 90 law enforcement agencies participated in the operation, including federal, state and local law enforcement officers and social service partners.
Among those arrested were a teacher, a professor, a firefighter, a pilot, municipal employees and a city councilman.
A simultaneous operation carried out by the USA Marshals Service recovered 10 missing children.
According to Summit County Sheriff Kandy Fatheree, 158 were arrested for seeking to solicit sex, three were arrested for internet crimes against children and 10 missing children were recovered.
"This is not just something that happens down in the hood in the city, it's in every county in every town in Ohio, poor neighborhoods, rich neighborhoods, educated, uneducated, Black, white, it doesn't matter, it happens everywhere and that's why this fight is so important. And that's why I won't rest until no one in Ohio buys or sells human beings," Yost said during the news conference.
Looks like states are stepping up on sex stings recently:
https://www.wlwt.com/article/ohio-ag-161-arrested-during-state-s-largest-ever-anti-human-trafficking-sting/37849346
WLWT Updated: 12:39 PM EDT Oct 4, 2021 Infinite Scroll Enabled COLUMBUS, Ohio .
Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost announced Monday that 161 men were arrested and 51 potential human trafficking victims were helped as part of a statewide anti-human trafficking operation.
The anti-human trafficking sting titled "Ohio Knows" took place over the course of a week, resulting in the arrest of 161 men who solicited sex, three of whom were trying to solicit sex from a minor, Yost said.
It was the largest sting in the history of Ohio to date.
"People who traffic other humans are doing it for a really simple reason money. And if there's no demand then there will be no market," Yost said Monday morning during a press conference at the Statehouse...Most of these woman that take the help for being trafficked are going to be Asian woman without papers. So of course they take the help. 1st they will be given shelter some spending money, working papers, and eventually citizenship. And of course. Nothing stops them from getting that whole process going, and at the same time doing this kind of work when they want to again. Sure better than getting arrested. I've read articles about nyc Asian woman who went into this program and got papers and returned to this life because who wants to work for 15 dollars an hour when you can make 300 to 400 a day.
..I walked in at San Ysidro 3 weeks ago and they barely glanced at my passport before waving me through. YMMV...I crossed into Mexico on Wednesday and Thursday for the evenings, with a wingman who lives in San Diego. This fellow never carries a passport with him, and he loves to cross with the locals. He talked me into crossing with him in the Mexican line. It was a breeze, as nobody paid attention to us. He also convinced me to take a local bus for 75 cents. I took the bus only once, as I prefer taking a taxi.
Rainman306
10-20-21, 03:30
Can anyone list out all the bars (including smaller ones) that have a VIP room option in Zona Nortre. I'm only familiar with Tropical, HK & Chicago and mostly Tropical.
Tropical is $45 for 30 minutes, which is the length I prefer. Though you always get extra time anyway. HK girls are too stuck up for VIP & Chicago only has an hour for $80.
Member #4730
10-20-21, 03:39
Can anyone list out all the bars (including smaller ones) that have a VIP room option in Zona Nortre. I'm only familiar with Tropical, HK & Chicago and mostly Tropical.
Tropical is $45 for 30 minutes, which is the length I prefer. Though you always get extra time anyway. HK girls are too stuck up for VIP & Chicago only has an hour for $80.Are you referencing the small private rooms in Miami club in HK? I think it was $20-25 and seems like 15 min. Maybe shorter. All the ones I've asked were down to go to the private rooms. One even popped out vibrators and was surprised when the knock came as she was just getting started. The one that got away. She was young from GDL and smelled amazing, but as usual, I seem to always catch them after I've done long sessions with a regular.
Rambo,
These are words of the wise.
If the bros pursue any illegal activities involving prostitution in major metropolitan areas, like street hookers. Massage parlors or web sites escorts, eventually they will be caught in police stings.
About early 2000's, a guy I know worked in managerial level at a Fortune 50 industrial company in LA, employing tens of thousands workers. On Friday paydays street hookers would line the major streets around the factories in that blighted industrial area, not residential, at lunch time and into the night. The guy went out to lunch and spotted a slutty-looking young girl hanging out near a motel. He stopped the car to offer her a "ride" and was quickly surrounded, man handled, cuffed up in a police van with a dozen other workers, a few even knew him at work.
The local police did not have evidence that he actually offered money for sex or took aany furtherance act for prostitution but they arrested and booked him anyway..Saw a recent YouTube video from a guy who posted video of hookers from Zona Norte and Figueroa Street in LA. Was crazy when he was negotiating with the girls all the girls asked to see the guys dick. I guess cops won't show their dick. Sounds like a great way to vet customers. Can guys ask to see the girls pussy? Sounds like a good way to vet possible police?
G.
Did any of the other Zona Norte regulars notice how quiet it was this weekend? If so, anyone know why?
Saturday I arrived in the zone just before 1 am and hit Tropical first and I couldn't help noticing that I was able to grab a table next to the main dance floor, which never happens on the weekends unless its super late. Not only that, but aside from the guys sitting at tables w / gals at the West end the rest was pretty empty. At least for a Saturday. After that beer I went to Chicago and spent a couple of hours there drinking, slipping in 20 P notes here and there and once again it was pretty dead. The whole night felt more like a Wednesday / Thursday than it did a weekend.
Sunday afternoon the only club that had more than a dozen gals was Hong Kong and even Hong Kong didn't have as many women working as they normally do at that time and a lot of empty tables on the first floor. It was so chill in Hong Kong that I actually sat w / a gal over a ladydrink, I don't remember her name, but not the typical HK gal. All natural, girl next door more than a stunner. Spoke no English, but she let my hands wander and wander they did! Sitting with her got me worked up so I split after finishing my beer and got me an SW.
Overall, it was more odd than unpleasant being so dead. Granted I didn't step foot in either HK or Adelita, but I assume they were busy, but they're always busy.
Looks like states are stepping up on sex stings recently:
https://www.wlwt.com/article/ohio-ag-161-arrested-during-state-s-largest-ever-anti-human-trafficking-sting/37849346
WLWT Updated: 12:39 PM EDT Oct 4, 2021 Infinite Scroll Enabled COLUMBUS, Ohio .
Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost announced Monday that 161 men were arrested and 51 potential human trafficking victims were helped as part of a statewide anti-human trafficking operation.
The anti-human trafficking sting titled "Ohio Knows" took place over the course of a week, resulting in the arrest of 161 men who solicited sex, three of whom were trying to solicit sex from a minor, Yost said.
It was the largest sting in the history of Ohio to date..What Sad men will do for sex in America. Better to go to Tijuana, it is legal there.
An example of a trafficked woman is a woman who is kidnapped by the trafficker and forced to be a prostitute. A trafficked woman could also be a woman who is promised by the trafficker a non-prostitution job such as a waitress, cook or cleaner and is forced against her will to work as a prostitute.
A woman who agrees to work as a prostitute is controlled by a pimp.
LuvMexicanas
10-20-21, 18:44
Saw a recent YouTube video from a guy who posted video of hookers from Zona Norte and Figueroa Street in LA. Was crazy when he was negotiating with the girls all the girls asked to see the guys dick. I guess cops won't show their dick. Sounds like a great way to vet customers. Can guys ask to see the girls pussy? Sounds like a good way to vet possible police?
G.A good tactic that criminal defense attorneys have shared is to simply ask the girl for nude modeling. There is nothing illegal about that and a working girl will catch your drift. Once in the room, have her get naked because no undercover cop will do that. A female undercover cop would most likely try to end the engagement before ever going to your room so she can continue trying to bust some other John.
One Eyed Man
10-20-21, 22:01
Given this video was from a "dating coach" that's trying to sell you his services I watched this video with a skeptical eye. While I agree if you only use escorts and give up on regular dating you will have some cost to pay for that but the vast majority of guys aren't doing that. Most guys are still involved in the dating scene (if they are single or cheating) or with their significant other if they have a wife / girlfriend already so this decline he speaks of can easily be avoided by simply not going escort only which probably very few here will advise. I'd also so some of us may even see being able to pull women in our regular dating life that look like some of the best escorts we've bang as a challenge to aspire to which means we know there are things we need to work on to accomplish that.While the video is intended to drive traffic to his for-pay website, he does make some good points, many of which hit close to home. If you have the resources, why go to the gym or bother to get to know and deal with women, when you can just pay for it?
One big red flag: a real cowboy doesn't wear his cowboy hat indoors.
A good tactic that criminal defense attorneys have shared is to simply ask the girl for nude modeling. There is nothing illegal about that and a working girl will catch your drift. Once in the room, have her get naked because no undercover cop will do that. A female undercover cop would most likely try to end the engagement before ever going to your room so she can continue trying to bust some other John.I have read similar. Photography and pornography, in and of themselves, are First Amendment protected speech. Paying for sex is illegal, but paying people to screw in front of the camera is not. Go figure. But, yes, you're not looking for sex, you're a freelance photog who shoots pretty women for his private collection. Want to do some modeling? A cop won't leave her area to go off with some rando dude. A real working girl will.
An example of a trafficked woman is a woman who is kidnapped by the trafficker and forced to be a prostitute. A trafficked woman could also be a woman who is promised by the trafficker a non-prostitution job such as a waitress, cook or cleaner and is forced against her will to work as a prostitute.
A woman who agrees to work as a prostitute is controlled by a pimp.A few years ago, I saw an article by a self-proclaimed anti-trafficking activist, claiming that the SuperBowl was contributing to a spike in sex trafficking. Her rationale went like this:
As the SuperBowl drew near, there was a spike in the number of sex ads on CraigsList. And as we all know, anybody in a sex ad on CraigsList is obviously a sex slave being trafficked by bad guys.
I don't claim to know how prevalent sex trafficking really is, but I usually can recognize when somebody is trying to feed me a ration of bullshit.
I saw this video on you tube from this dating coach about how once you go down the escort hooker route it's almost impossible to go back to normal girls.For me this is 100% true. I'm not interested in "civilian" women anymore, and have not been so for a couple of decades now. There's no going back for me, I'm happy with my choice, and I'm not going to let anybody tell me that I'm wrong, or that I shouldn't be happy, or that something is wrong with me. No, something is wrong with society that would rather that I be miserable and unhappy, especially if somebody can sell me something in the process! No sir, I get to define my own happiness!
LuvMexicanas
10-21-21, 02:40
For me this is 100% true. I'm not interested in "civilian" women anymore, and have not been so for a couple of decades now. There's no going back for me, I'm happy with my choice, and I'm not going to let anybody tell me that I'm wrong, or that I shouldn't be happy, or that something is wrong with me. No, something is wrong with society that would rather that I be miserable and unhappy, especially if somebody can sell me something in the process! No sir, I get to define my own happiness!Plus you're supporting single moms which is noble in my mind.
I've got some business in San Diego in a few weeks and am thinking I might like to try some P4 P in Tijuana.
If you guys could do a check on my thinking, I'the be really grateful! I've mongered a lot overseas, but the one previous trip I took to Tijuana, I just sat in HK for a bit, watched a less show, and decided to call it a day. The talent in HK was pretty good, it was just too much of a circus for me.
I really enjoyed the tacos on the corner, the gastropark and Caesar's though.
A year after COVID hit, I'm thirsting for human touch and thought with this trip I'the try again.
Some people suggested the escort scene for something quieter. I looked at cumintj though, and the talent wasn't to my liking. I'm not too keen on the round Latina faces or only choosing between Gorditas and Flacas, so the only ones that are to my taste were Antonella and Corinthia.
I also looked at Musas Tijuana though, and was impressed by the talent there. My first two questions:
- Why is Musas Tijuana generally cheaper than cumintj, even though it seems the talent is better?
- There are some detailed reviews in the Musas forum. Can I take them seriously or are they a fraud?
If I was going to hire Musas talent, they say they don't go to the Zone Norte hotels or Airbnbs, only certain hotels and motels and since I'm walking across the border, I think my best best is to get a room at Ticuan. More questions:
- Are there any other hotels I should consider?
- What kind of guest fee should I expect to pay at Ticuan? Double it for two girls?
- What is the procedure I should follow? Meet her in the lobby? Tell the front desk I'm expecting a friend?
- The rooms don't seem that different in the Ticuan. I think I'll go with the base one. Should I get a double bed — so I can sweat up one and sleep in the other? Or will that look weird to the girl, and I should just get the single room with the bigger bed?
I think I'm also going with Ticuan instead of Cascadas because.
- It's slightly cheaper ($69 vs $75 for arriving on a Sunday afternoon).
- I'm sensitive to noise, and I fear the cheap rooms at Cascadas are thumping all night.
- I can try a short-term rental at Cascadas if I find a HK girl that I like.
So my questions are: How much is a Cascadas short term rental these days?
- can I bring girls from other clubs like Adelitas, or street girls, inside?
- is the VIP card still worth it if I don't stay at Cascadas, or should I consider one if I take a girl from HK?
- How much is the entry to HK these days? I know at some times of day I need to buy a drink (for how much?) but is it free to enter otherwise? Is this the same for the other clubs?
- If I'm coming on a Sunday afternoon and leaving on a Monday, when should I expect it to be busy and when should I expect it to be dead?
Thanks!
I've got some business in San Diego in a few weeks and am thinking I might like to try some P4 P in Tijuana.
If you guys could do a check on my thinking, I'the be really grateful! I've mongered a lot overseas, but the one previous trip I took to Tijuana, I just sat in HK for a bit, watched a less show, and decided to call it a day. The talent in HK was pretty good, it was just too much of a circus for me.
I really enjoyed the tacos on the corner, the gastropark and Caesar's though.
A year after COVID hit, I'm thirsting for human touch and thought with this trip I'the try again.
Some people suggested the escort scene for something quieter. I looked at cumintj though, and the talent wasn't to my liking. I'm not too keen on the round Latina faces or only choosing between Gorditas and Flacas, so the only ones that are to my taste were Antonella and Corinthia.
I also looked at Musas Tijuana though, and was impressed by the talent there. My first two questions:
- Why is Musas Tijuana generally cheaper than cumintj, even though it seems the talent is better?
- There are some detailed reviews in the Musas forum. Can I take them seriously or are they a fraud?
If I was going to hire Musas talent, they say they don't go to the Zone Norte hotels or Airbnbs, only certain hotels and motels and since I'm walking across the border, I think my best best is to get a room at Ticuan. More questions:
- Are there any other hotels I should consider?
- What kind of guest fee should I expect to pay at Ticuan? Double it for two girls?
- What is the procedure I should follow? Meet her in the lobby? Tell the front desk I'm expecting a friend?
- The rooms don't seem that different in the Ticuan. I think I'll go with the base one. Should I get a double bed so I can sweat up one and sleep in the other? Or will that look weird to the girl, and I should just get the single room with the bigger bed?
I think I'm also going with Ticuan instead of Cascadas because.
- It's slightly cheaper ($69 vs $75 for arriving on a Sunday afternoon).
- I'm sensitive to noise, and I fear the cheap rooms at Cascadas are thumping all night.
- I can try a short-term rental at Cascadas if I find a HK girl that I like.
So my questions are: How much is a Cascadas short term rental these days?
- can I bring girls from other clubs like Adelitas, or street girls, inside?
- is the VIP card still worth it if I don't stay at Cascadas, or should I consider one if I take a girl from HK?
- How much is the entry to HK these days? I know at some times of day I need to buy a drink (for how much?) but is it free to enter otherwise? Is this the same for the other clubs?
- If I'm coming on a Sunday afternoon and leaving on a Monday, when should I expect it to be busy and when should I expect it to be dead?
Thanks!EVERYTHING you want to know. Is really worth a few short hours over the next few days, reading back 20 or a few more pages.
These are are Day-1 questions.
John Clayton
10-21-21, 05:03
- The rooms don't seem that different in the Ticuan. I think I'll go with the base one. Should I get a double bed so I can sweat up one and sleep in the other? Or will that look weird to the girl, and I should just get the single room with the bigger bed?...I pretty always have stayed at the Ticuan. I just book the regular room; although, they have on occasion upgraded me, once to a jacuzzi suite, for some reason. All the rooms seem to be pretty nice for the price (usually $60 - $80) -- linens are clean, bathrooms functional, beds comfy. I don't think the girls give a rat's ass whether you're in a basic or deluxe room.
I also looked at Musas Tijuana though, and was impressed by the talent there. My first two questions:
- Why is Musas Tijuana generally cheaper than cumintj, even though it seems the talent is better?
- There are some detailed reviews in the Musas forum. Can I take them seriously or are they a fraud? It depends on the Girl. Most of them are $125 and the rest are like $105. I think CITJ states that all girls offer GFE, while, if you look, not all of the Musas girls do. So you're going to have to sort out what you want with the agency when booking. I can get 2 shots off in an hour, so I always get clarity on MSOG before booking.
If I was going to hire Musas talent, they say they don't go to the Zone Norte hotels or Airbnbs, only certain hotels and motels and since I'm walking across the border, I think my best best is to get a room at Ticuan. More questions:
- Are there any other hotels I should consider?
....
I think I'm also going with Ticuan instead of CascadasIf you're going to get an escort, go to Ticuan, but make sure you get a room with an occupancy to match what you're looking for. All rooms are for 2 guests, so you'll be okay, but if you want a Threesome, you're going to need to get a room that accommodates 4 people. Out of general practice, I always just get a room with 2 beds. I don't like sleeping on a sweaty bed.
So my questions are: How much is a Cascadas short term rental these days?
- can I bring girls from other clubs like Adelitas, or street girls, inside?
- is the VIP card still worth it if I don't stay at Cascadas, or should I consider one if I take a girl from HK?
Thanks!You can bring girls from the Tropical to Cascadas, but not from other clubs- at least not without paying some kind of fee.
CaptainSolo likes banging street girls at Cascadas, because the Short Term rooms have showers. Maybe he can chime in on details and price. I'm a sucker for the girls outside of Ibiza, and the Cascada hotties he talks about are never there when I'm there.
The VIP card is only good for 3 months, and it pays for itself if you stay at the hotel once on a Monday or Tuesday. It takes a few trips to make it worth it on other days.
Cocr Brotheler
10-21-21, 07:12
In the US corporate world there are way too much risks in working with women. Everything you do can be misinterpreted as sexual harassment. Bill Gates is now accused of harassing his employees.
Goingyourownway site has some serious discussions. Thanks for introducing it.Thank you Solo for this post. It can't be more true.
The two jobs I held before my current I had to leave or eventually get fired due to women and nothing sexual harassment related. First job I made the mistake of choosing to work in a office with all females (a very smart Asian, a "Sister" who is still my friend and helped me get the job and a Hispano Super). That mix and all womens who are generally catty was the end of me in that organization (a large State Agency in sex felony prison TX). I got into a minor verbal and email scuffle with the smart Asian and made the mistake of trying to improve her English on a certain word she was using and how it was applied on me. She ratted on me and I got written up on EEO. If a man we just but heads and let it go on not reporting up. I lost one day of work, humiliated damaging my reputation there plus the evil Hispano Super tried to make it much worse than it actually was which I successfully fought off (I mentioned I would get my Attorney to intervene if necessary). I survived that but 6 months later they then tryied to go after me for performance but I got the hell out before it got even uglier.
Bottom line is even if you are correct but get into an argument with a female you will lose. So try very hard to at least not work in a closed in office environment with them and if do try and select an office where they aren't the majority. Or just drive a truck like I considered or be independently wealthy and not have to worry about working for someone else!
2nd job I held a high level position in a global corporation and after about 2 months I knew it wasn't going to work out and the company led by evil women HR Directors and VPs looking to fire others to make themselves look good. Nothing sexual that got me fired but an employee under me abused a credit card which I not report it time so I got out before they went after me. That evil ***** threatened to fire me in front of the whole office. I could of sent in an EEO on her but I settled with some good money so couldn't have file complaints afterwards. She met her due however this year when she left the company taking a lower level with another company.
Now I planning my trip out hopefully before my 90 day HK VIP expires hehehehe.
One of the YouTube guys in a recent clip listed below would not give the name of some web site related to hookers that would screw with out condoms. He just said the initials "PH". (I actually am not interested in taking that risk but he claims everyone "knows" this site). Wtf. What site is he talking about? I am clueless.
(at the 3:00 minute mark on this video).
https://youtu.be/iBQQ8Fu57sQ
Any ideas what site this is?
G.
Captain Solo
10-21-21, 09:40
Cocr.
But what you posted, you may have bugged out too early to avoid confrontation on minor issues. If you think you will get fired, may as well fight to the end.
US women are spoiled and want men to surrender to them. If the women want to fight you should give it to them. Usually they would back down or lose the fight. They bluff most of the time and have no strength to go through a fight. They can be more easily pressured than men, or in urban language, they have no balls.
Tijuana is very nice. You can pick a hot girl and honeymoon with her. If things turns bad, well, pick another girl for another honeymoon. There are no headache or any serious consequences. You can always fall in love a couple times a week, Life is good.
EVERYTHING you want to know. Is really worth a few short hours over the next few days, reading back 20 or a few more pages.
These are are Day-1 questions.Ok, thanks, I can look harder for the factuals, but how about these on nuance / opinion?
- Why is Musas Tijuana generally cheaper than cumintj, even though it seems the talent is better?
- There are some detailed reviews in the Musas forum. Can I take them seriously or are they a fraud?
- Are there any other hotels I should consider?
- is the VIP card still worth it if I don't stay at Cascadas, or should I consider one if I take a girl from HK?
There is fair number of girls on Sunday & Monday at HK. The numbe & quality of SG's is quite a bit lower however.
I've got some business in San Diego in a few weeks and am thinking I might like to try some P4 P in Tijuana.
If you guys could do a check on my thinking, I'the be really grateful! I've mongered a lot overseas, but the one previous trip I took to Tijuana, I just sat in HK for a bit, watched a less show, and decided to call it a day. The talent in HK was pretty good, it was just too much of a circus for me.
I really enjoyed the tacos on the corner, the gastropark and Caesar's though.
A year after COVID hit, I'm thirsting for human touch and thought with this trip I'the try again.
Some people suggested the escort scene for something quieter. I looked at cumintj though, and the talent wasn't to my liking. I'm not too keen on the round Latina faces or only choosing between Gorditas and Flacas, so the only ones that are to my taste were Antonella and Corinthia.
I also looked at Musas Tijuana though, and was impressed by the talent there. My first two questions:
- Why is Musas Tijuana generally cheaper than cumintj, even though it seems the talent is better?
- There are some detailed reviews in the Musas forum. Can I take them seriously or are they a fraud?
If I was going to hire Musas talent, they say they don't go to the Zone Norte hotels or Airbnbs, only certain hotels and motels and since I'm walking across the border, I think my best best is to get a room at Ticuan. More questions:
- Are there any other hotels I should consider?
- What kind of guest fee should I expect to pay at Ticuan? Double it for two girls?
- What is the procedure I should follow? Meet her in the lobby? Tell the front desk I'm expecting a friend?
- The rooms don't seem that different in the Ticuan. I think I'll go with the base one. Should I get a double bed so I can sweat up one and sleep in the other? Or will that look weird to the girl, and I should just get the single room with the bigger bed?
I think I'm also going with Ticuan instead of Cascadas because.
- It's slightly cheaper ($69 vs $75 for arriving on a Sunday afternoon).
- I'm sensitive to noise, and I fear the cheap rooms at Cascadas are thumping all night.
- I can try a short-term rental at Cascadas if I find a HK girl that I like.
So my questions are: How much is a Cascadas short term rental these days?
- can I bring girls from other clubs like Adelitas, or street girls, inside?
- is the VIP card still worth it if I don't stay at Cascadas, or should I consider one if I take a girl from HK?
- How much is the entry to HK these days? I know at some times of day I need to buy a drink (for how much?) but is it free to enter otherwise? Is this the same for the other clubs?
- If I'm coming on a Sunday afternoon and leaving on a Monday, when should I expect it to be busy and when should I expect it to be dead?
Thanks!
PokerLover11
10-21-21, 16:40
Thank you Solo for this post. It can't be more true.
The two jobs I held before my current I had to leave or eventually get fired due to women and nothing sexual harassment related. First job I made the mistake of choosing to work in a office with all females (a very smart Asian, a "Sister" who is still my friend and helped me get the job and a Hispano Super). That mix and all womens who are generally catty was the end of me in that organization (a large State Agency in sex felony prison TX). I got into a minor verbal and email scuffle with the smart Asian and made the mistake of trying to improve her English on a certain word she was using and how it was applied on me. She ratted on me and I got written up on EEO. If a man we just but heads and let it go on not reporting up. I lost one day of work, humiliated damaging my reputation there plus the evil Hispano Super tried to make it much worse than it actually was which I successfully fought off (I mentioned I would get my Attorney to intervene if necessary). I survived that but 6 months later they then tryied to go after me for performance but I got the hell out before it got even uglier.
Bottom line is even if you are correct but get into an argument with a female you will lose. So try very hard to at least not work in a closed in office environment with them and if do try and select an office where they aren't the majority. Or just drive a truck like I considered or be independently wealthy and not have to worry about working for someone else!.This World (society) has destroyed what a woman is, that is why we a forced to choose Tijuana, it is the only place where we get to experience the goodness of woman although most of the times it is fake, for money only, some are good actresses and pretend to be falling in love but ultimately only want their own independence. A man works too much and too hard for this shit, it is not working and no one is truly happy.
Ok, thanks, I can look harder for the factuals, but how about these on nuance / opinion?
Spend more than 5 minutes researching for an international sex trip.
You say you've been around. Use the tools.
I do a trip every 6 mo or so, I still spend at least 2-3 hrs of reading every thread back to my previous stay, and taking notes.
People do share a fair amount of data over time.
Good hotels are often discussed.
The Ticuan girl fee and procedure is *chuckle* often discussed. Did you read anything on the Musas forums at all?
Cascadas costs and data. Pages of this.
What to wear to avoid the HK door fee.
Girls from other clubs in another club. That was recent.
Etc. All highly discussed things.
I don't think you have read anything, at all.
Captain Solo
10-21-21, 18:23
The guy got other jobs with smaller companies, but never got his Top Secret clearance with special access back to work high-pay jobs in classified programs. Every time he got job offers, employment security would pull up his arrest records and he had to explain and justify them all over, so he was pretty much black listed and had to take lower jobs.
The biggest loss was his broken family. His wife filed sexual abuse charges alleging he molested the children and took sole custody. She remarried and moved out of state. He ran out of money to fight that suit and never saw his children again. Most of his family, relatives, friends and ex-inlaws shunned him, not wanting to associate with an immoral pervert who cheated his wife with prostitutes. He was broken and lonely like a shadow. I was one of the few close friends who occasionally went out to dinner with him to commiserate. He was so scared he never went into relationships with other women again. I could not even get him to go to Tijuana to party because he fears being entrapped by federal LE at the border.
Meanwhile there were lots of sexual relationships between executives and underlings at that company. One I know personally, an old exec was fucking his direct senior aide a few times every week, bragging to his peers about his sexual conquests and how he fucked her every week behind her husband's back. She was a cheap * not even pretty, may be a 4 in HK scale. Executives and managers all know about his affair and talked about them but that old guy had important contacts with customers and can bring in contracts. So the old men talked and giggled among themselves but never did anything to stop or curb those illegal affairs. The company was exposed to potentially large liabilities for sexual abuses in that case. Legal department must have heard but did nothing.
Of course there were also rampant fucking among the lower managerial and professional levels. People talked about who are fucking whom this week and giggled.
That friend was so broken he never had another happy day again AFAIK.
Captain Solo
10-21-21, 22:00
Poker,
You think American women give you their companies, affection, love, sex for free?
Pretty soon you will find your mate demanding, controlling, wanting life-time commitment and support while withholding or not giving you any respect, love, sex, fairness at all, and breaking your balls every day. My friends' mates are so angry. Aggressive, abusive, vindictive, just a like giant venomous king cobras, that I don't want to be near them.
With the putas you are getting their companies, affection, love, sex, however fake, by paying, but at least you and the girls agree it's fair a exchange each time so there is no biitching, pissing, screaming, hating and abusing.
Nortenas should learn how to be good humans, stop their ugly games, ruthless manipulations, evil abuses, shameless gold digging. They should give their mates true love and trust to have good, happy relationships. Without good relationships, the bros should just buy their true love and hot sex with hundreds nice, clean, young, sexy girls in Tijuana and many other places in the world.
Society has made them Loco.
PokerLover11
10-21-21, 23:59
Poker,
You think American women give you their companies, affection, love, sex for free?
Pretty soon you will find your mate demanding, controlling, wanting life-time commitment and support while withholding or not giving you any respect, love, sex, fairness at all, and breaking your balls every day. My friends' mates are so angry. Aggressive, abusive, vindictive, just a like giant venomous king cobras, that I don't want to be near them.
With the putas you are getting their companies, affection, love, sex, however fake, by paying, but at least you and the girls agree it's fair a exchange each time so there is no biitching, pissing, screaming, hating and abusing.
Nortenas should learn how to be good humans, stop their ugly games, ruthless manipulations, evil abuses, shameless gold digging. They should give their mates true love and trust to have good, happy relationships. Without good relationships, the bros should just buy their true love and hot sex with hundreds nice, clean, young, sexy girls in Tijuana and many other places in the world.
Society has made them Loco.Unfortunately I am speaking of all women everywhere, the World is society in that the thinking is similar invert country now, the USA was the start of the fall of women everywhere, now they all want to be like western women, I have met many Mexican women who want to get pregnant but they don't want the child to ever know who the father is, humanity will not be better off for it.
"You think American women give you their companies, affection, love, sex for free?
Time to stop judging the rest of humanity thru your personal lens. It was funny for the first few posts.
Love ya CS. But. Your (and others) broken relationship with females isn't everyones. And is often times a reflection of both sides.
Captain Solo
10-22-21, 00:59
Speed Toy.
I was not trying to be funny. I was dead serious.
My personal lens is the only lens I have. Among the many couples around me I see only broken, ugly, abusive, violent relationships, mostly die to the women's anger caused by their over expectation of what the men have to offer to be able to get into their panties occasionally. These women have ro consideration, empathy, respect, love, loyalty for their hard0 working men. They are so dumb they would fight to the death over petty issues, especially their false pride and their inflated self worth and break up their relationships and families, neglecting or abandoning their children.
My observations are not 100% scientific, but based on fairly large sample sizes and are as objective as I can get. It involves average people I know personally, professional, managerial, executive people, not unemployed losers.
Tension and legal problems and liabilities between the sexes are so high due to high visibility of militant feminists, Millennials are scared of personal relationships, not dating, not shacking, not marrying. Won't be long before the US will have negative birth rate.
Big Magick
10-22-21, 01:00
"You think American women give you their companies, affection, love, sex for free?
Time to stop judging the rest of humanity thru your personal lens. It was funny for the first few posts.
Love ya CS. But. Your (and others) broken relationship with females isn't everyones. And is often times a reflection of both sides.Recently we've painted a dreary picture of male female relationships in America on this forum but you're right. I've had some nice genuine relationships in America. Not every women is out to get you. Definitely would say those girls are the rare exceptions though. Or maybe like you said, it takes two and perhaps my short comings cause me to get into bad relationships. Got to say after all this mongering I'm missing a regular relationship. Probably not worth the headache.
Was out of town on vacation last weekend and my hotel near the airport was just a few blocks from a strip club. I knew it would be lame in comparison to Tijuana but hopped over there for a beer just to see as I had a few hours to kill. It was actually nice inside, music wasn't too crazy loud. And the several girls had some nice bodies to tip a bit during their pole dances on stage.
One of the dancers said while there was no contact out in the club there was a big private side room with a lot of couches that for $25 contact was ok.
I decided to do a lap dance and once it started I learned only she could have the contact. I couldn't touch at all. (I forgot how lame US clubs were). She is grinding on me on the couch and while she was pretty and nice to talk to. What a waste of $25.
It was so odd to be able to speak English to the girls in the club after the broken English in Tijuana.
G.
Poker,
You think American women give you their companies, affection, love, sex for free?
Pretty soon you will find your mate demanding, controlling, wanting life-time commitment and support while withholding or not giving you any respect, love, sex, fairness at all, and breaking your balls every day. My friends' mates are so angry. Aggressive, abusive, vindictive, just a like giant venomous king cobras, that I don't want to be near them.
With the putas you are getting their companies, affection, love, sex, however fake, by paying, but at least you and the girls agree it's fair a exchange each time so there is no biitching, pissing, screaming, hating and abusing.
Nortenas should learn how to be good humans, stop their ugly games, ruthless manipulations, evil abuses, shameless gold digging. They should give their mates true love and trust to have good, happy relationships. Without good relationships, the bros should just buy their true love and hot sex with hundreds nice, clean, young, sexy girls in Tijuana and many other places in the world.
Society has made them Loco.I view the Tijuana pay scene as a big party, place to drink make jokes with the chicks. Even if I was making 150 k a year with no kids, it wouldn't be enough money to make these girls give me the experiences tinder dates give. There's no comparison. A real woman's effort is miles and miles better than 99.9% working girls. Yes some dudes might pay double promise big tip after show her the suite and she performs GFE. For most of us that's not what we get. I'm not tall or handsome. If a guy in USA is tall or handsome he can clean up on tinder. You can meet woman with high sex drive. You just have to weed put the low sex drive woman. 30% of the girls I dated had higher sex drive than me. 60% had a low to non existent sex drive.
Recently we've painted a dreary picture of male female relationships in America on this forum but you're right. I've had some nice genuine relationships in America. Not every women is out to get you. Definitely would say those girls are the rare exceptions though. Or maybe like you said, it takes two and perhaps my short comings cause me to get into bad relationships. Got to say after all this mongering I'm missing a regular relationship. Probably not worth the headache.And ID say the same in a forum cutting down on "all" dancers are "broken daddy toys" at the same time.
LuvMexicanas
10-22-21, 15:35
I have met many Mexican women who want to get pregnant but they don't want the child to ever know who the father is, humanity will not be better off for it.Feel free to PM me their names and numbers so I can help them achieve their objective.
Feel free to PM me their names and numbers so I can help them achieve their objective.I got myself fixed 20 yrs ago. I'll be happy to try as _hard as I can_ too.
Feel free to PM me their names and numbers so I can help them achieve their objective.I've met a few that wanted me to blow a load in them again and again. They all way they want a boy. Very strange.
Was out of town on vacation last weekend and my hotel near the airport was just a few blocks from a strip club. I knew it would be lame in comparison to Tijuana but hopped over there for a beer just to see as I had a few hours to kill. It was actually nice inside, music wasn't too crazy loud. And the several girls had some nice bodies to tip a bit during their pole dances on stage.
One of the dancers said while there was no contact out in the club there was a big private side room with a lot of couches that for $25 contact was ok.
I decided to do a lap dance and once it started I learned only she could have the contact. I couldn't touch at all. (I forgot how lame US clubs were). She is grinding on me on the couch and while she was pretty and nice to talk to. What a waste of $25.
It was so odd to be able to speak English to the girls in the club after the broken English in Tijuana.
G.Oh yeah, I remember going to my first strip club in San Francisco at the age of 18. Market Street Cinema (no longer there). And then I went to Tijuana the first time and all American strip clubs were permanently ruined for me.
I've met a few that wanted me to blow a load in them again and again. They all way they want a boy. Very strange.Seems timely.
'I've met a few that wanted me to blow a load in them again and again. They all way they want a boy. Very strange.' Yep. I have lost count of the number of times a puta has shoved my dick in her raw and said 'Quiero un hijo (never una hija) con ojos celestes.' And no, I do not explain Mendel and eye color to them. And yes, I'm snipped, and no, I don't tell them that. Two so far have said they were pregnant by me and I just laughed.
Captain Solo
10-23-21, 02:50
The Bare is off fwy 405, on Imperial Highway near LAX. I have not been to there after CoVid, but it had some of the most beautiful and classy girls from US, Europe, South America, and they really do some of the most sensuous, most erotic dances. HK strippers cannot even come anywhere close to Bare Elegance girls in the stripping art. I used to know a few very hot girls working here. Their lap dance is lame because they have a very strict no touch regime. WTF good is it if you cannot kiss, lick, touch, squeeze, grope, poke the girls?
But the Bare is a very good entertainment value, costs $6 parking, $10 cover, $10 drink, but they have food specials every night, $3 steak and fries special Sat night, $6 massive burger on Wed. The sister club nearby is Jet Strip, girls are not as classy but very slutty and give high mileage in the lap dance booths.
Japanese tourists have to hit strip clubs every time they are in the US.
https://www.bareelegance.com/events/
For fun I was on erotic review to see what escorts are charging on west coast. You're talking 700 for a hour average. 500 was about as low as I saw for a attractive girl. We are really getting a deal in Tijuana. We are spoiled as hell.
'I've met a few that wanted me to blow a load in them again and again. They all way they want a boy. Very strange.' Yep. I have lost count of the number of times a puta has shoved my dick in her raw and said 'Quiero un hijo (never una hija) con ojos celestes.' And no, I do not explain Mendel and eye color to them. And yes, I'm snipped, and no, I don't tell them that. Two so far have said they were pregnant by me and I just laughed.Yah I had a few chicas tell me I got them preggers too, I like you have also had the snip job. Puta's are liars "siempre" LOL!!
Plan on going down to Tijuana for a few hours Saturday afternoon if others are heading down shoot me a message to say Hello.
G.
I was on SA tonight and checked a few cities. I did a really narrow search in LA and there were close to 6000 women on there. What happened to the feminist movement. I thought girls wanted to make their own money. Looks like women are desperate now since the free money ran out. Anybody know what they are charging in LA from SA.
I was on SA tonight and checked a few cities. I did a really narrow search in LA and there were close to 6000 women on there. What happened to the feminist movement. I thought girls wanted to make their own money. Looks like women are desperate now since the free money ran out. Anybody know what they are charging in LA from SA.US girls on SA are dry holes.
Amazing what a line on a map does for enterprising attitudes.
US girls on SA are dry holes.
Amazing what a line on a map does for enterprising attitudes.There's 4,000,000 people in the city of LA, and 10,000,000 in LA County. 6,000 is a rounding error.
Hi,
I noticed Tijuana (Baja State) is in the world Covid status in Mexico. Only state in Mexico in Orange.
https://coronavirus.gob.mx/semaforo/
Have there been any new restrictions regarding in capacity, etc in Tijuana in the last two months as cases have risen?
Any risk of clubs closing soon due to Covid?
Also, I plan to be there end of October before US opens border.
But, I know Mexico was open when I visited in July via foot. But I had to pay a bribe to the border official.
Are they still hitting people up for FMM visa or a bribe to enter Mexico by foot?
Did the open the normal booths for foreigners to look at passport get the FREE FMM at no charge for 7 days.
I would like to hear from people who didn't already have FMM who entered in October by foot (at the old transit center entrance. Ped East) - did they make you pay a fee?
The Bare is off fwy 405, on Imperial Highway near LAX. I have not been to there after CoVid, but it had some of the most beautiful and classy girls from US, Europe, South America, and they really do some of the most sensuous, most erotic dances. HK strippers cannot even come anywhere close to Bare Elegance girls in the stripping art. I used to know a few very hot girls working here. Their lap dance is lame because they have a very strict no touch regime. WTF good is it if you cannot kiss, lick, touch, squeeze, grope, poke the girls?
But the Bare is a very good entertainment value, costs $6 parking, $10 cover, $10 drink, but they have food specials every night, $3 steak and fries special Sat night, $6 massive burger on Wed. The sister club nearby is Jet Strip, girls are not as classy but very slutty and give high mileage in the lap dance booths.
Japanese tourists have to hit strip clubs every time they are in the US.
https://www.bareelegance.com/events/If it's a fully nude club. Even though you can't touch I still enjoy watching when they are butt naked. If I am up in that area sometime I will have to check it out for some eye candy.
G.
For fun I was on erotic review to see what escorts are charging on west coast. You're talking 700 for a hour average. 500 was about as low as I saw for a attractive girl. We are really getting a deal in Tijuana. We are spoiled as hell.I found a few US escorts on Twitter and they didn't have prices but one of them posted a pic of a new SUV Porsche she just got. So they are doing well.
There's 4,000,000 people in the city of LA, and 10,000,000 in LA County. 6,000 is a rounding error.Why does that matter to my post?
Hi,
I noticed Tijuana (Baja State) is in the world Covid status in Mexico. Only state in Mexico in Orange.
https://coronavirus.gob.mx/semaforo/
Have there been any new restrictions regarding in capacity, etc in Tijuana in the last two months as cases have risen?
Any risk of clubs closing soon due to Covid?
Also, I plan to be there end of October before US opens border.
But, I know Mexico was open when I visited in July via foot. But I had to pay a bribe to the border official.
Are they still hitting people up for FMM visa or a bribe to enter Mexico by foot?
Did the open the normal booths for foreigners to look at passport get the FREE FMM at no charge for 7 days.
I would like to hear from people who didn't already have FMM who entered in October by foot (at the old transit center entrance. Ped East) - did they make you pay a fee?You could look at elimparcial.com for local news and Covid numbers. BC is currently the 5th most infected state in Mexico. I believe Mexicali leads in numbers but Tijuana is a strong second place. Urban environment in close proximity to other people during a pandemic is never really a great idea but we need to get used to it. Only thing to do would be to choose your "events" wisely and mask up when needed NOT to avoid Covid but to possibly avoid the amount of viral load you inhale. That's really all you can do besides getting vaccinated.
For fun I was on erotic review to see what escorts are charging on west coast. You're talking 700 for a hour average. 500 was about as low as I saw for a attractive girl. We are really getting a deal in Tijuana. We are spoiled as hell.The professional girls in USA charging 500 plus I believe do GFE no? For guys who have to fly into San Diego there's a expense factor in the hundreds. You need to lose 3 or 4 days of your life at home. That a not appealing to a lot of guys. Whenever someone starts writing how great of a deal it is, I get annoyed. Prices are about double 6 years ago. If they keep going up it's certainly not a great deal to most guys. San Diego is my fav city and Tijuana is next door. Without San Diego I'd probably have never been to Tijuana and certainly not more than once.
If it's a fully nude club. Even though you can't touch I still enjoy watching when they are butt naked. If I am up in that area sometime I will have to check it out for some eye candy.
G.I believe in CA strip clubs, you cannot have alcohol and nudity at the same time. If you like to watch them butt naked, get your alcohol fix somewhere else first. Up North, we have O'Farrell theater, used to be the best in San Francisco but I have not been there in years. They have nudity and no alcohol.
Member #4730
10-24-21, 05:35
I found a few US escorts on Twitter and they didn't have prices but one of them posted a pic of a new SUV Porsche she just got. So they are doing well.I'm sure it is a lease and they write it off for "adult" business transportation.
Member #4730
10-24-21, 05:38
If it's a fully nude club. Even though you can't touch I still enjoy watching when they are butt naked. If I am up in that area sometime I will have to check it out for some eye candy.
G.Exactly why I hate the clubs in Ca. Blue balls, no thanks! I recall a hot spinner grinding on me and then she got on top of the backrest of the sofa and started putting her pussy a few inches from my face. I wanted to lick it, but sure it would have got me thrown out. Tijuana is paradise where I don't have to get on a plane.
The professional girls in USA charging 500 plus I believe do GFE no? Maybe. Maybe not. Its super sucky.
Maybe. Maybe not. Its super sucky.To get GFE in the US, you probably have to repeat first, until the girl is comfortable with you.
Member #4730
10-24-21, 06:04
To get GFE in the US, you probably have to repeat first, until the girl is comfortable with you.Pretty much all of the regulars I've met were GFE on the first meeting. Chemistry and hobby is YMMV.
Pretty much all of the regulars I've met were GFE on the first meeting. Chemistry and hobby is YMMV.And sometimes intense research.
For fun I was on erotic review to see what escorts are charging on west coast. You're talking 700 for a hour average. 500 was about as low as I saw for a attractive girl. We are really getting a deal in Tijuana. We are spoiled as hell.These girls' johns are earning upwards of $25,000 per month. For them paying 500 - 750 per hour is a good deal.
I'm sure it is a lease and they write it off for "adult" business transportation.Definitely a lease. I actually thought it was odd to advertise how much she makes since the clients might realize they aren't special.
It depends on the Girl. Most of them are $125 and the rest are like $105. I think CITJ states that all girls offer GFE, while, if you look, not all of the Musas girls do. So you're going to have to sort out what you want with the agency when booking. I can get 2 shots off in an hour, so I always get clarity on MSOG before booking.
If you're going to get an escort, go to Ticuan, but make sure you get a room with an occupancy to match what you're looking for. All rooms are for 2 guests, so you'll be okay, but if you want a Threesome, you're going to need to get a room that accommodates 4 people. Out of general practice, I always just get a room with 2 beds. I don't like sleeping on a sweaty bed.
You can bring girls from the Tropical to Cascadas, but not from other clubs- at least not without paying some kind of fee.
CaptainSolo likes banging street girls at Cascadas, because the Short Term rooms have showers. Maybe he can chime in on details and price. I'm a sucker for the girls outside of Ibiza, and the Cascada hotties he talks about are never there when I'm there.
The VIP card is only good for 3 months, and it pays for itself if you stay at the hotel once on a Monday or Tuesday. It takes a few trips to make it worth it on other days.This was a lot of help, thank you. Interesting about the cuminTJ / Musas distinctions, I hadn't thought of that. Since I'm an infrequent Tijuana visitor, I think the card won't work for me.
Mr Enternational
10-25-21, 17:21
San Diego is my fav city and Tijuana is next door. Without San Diego I'd probably have never been to Tijuana and certainly not more than once.Exactly. Only reason I have ever been to Tijuana is because I was in the Navy in San Diego over 30 years ago and we would go on weekends. Only reason I go back these days is because I happen to be in San Diego sometimes. I could not see making a special trip to Tijuana when there are much better places to go. Taking a vacation to Tijuana is laughable.
Mr Enternational
10-25-21, 17:30
I found a few US escorts on Twitter and they didn't have prices but one of them posted a pic of a new SUV Porsche she just got. So they are doing well.LOL. That means they are doing well? I just heard a story 1 minute ago that when Drake was working on his first album he would scrape together $5000 per month to rent a Bentley so he could look the part. His manager recently tracked down the car and bought it for him as a gift. Same as Birdman talking about having helicopters on their first songs when he didn't have any helicopters. Or Bow Wow posting a pic of a private jet and someone a few rows behind him on a commercial flight saying he is not in a private jet; he is on this regular airliner with 120 other normal ass folks. Posting a picture does not mean a damn thing.
The professional girls in USA charging 500 plus I believe do GFE no? For guys who have to fly into San Diego there's a expense factor in the hundreds. You need to lose 3 or 4 days of your life at home. That a not appealing to a lot of guys. Whenever someone starts writing how great of a deal it is, I get annoyed. Prices are about double 6 years ago. If they keep going up it's certainly not a great deal to most guys. San Diego is my fav city and Tijuana is next door. Without San Diego I'd probably have never been to Tijuana and certainly not more than once.That's funny. I live in SD and I find it pretty boring compared to Tijuana. Tijuana has better food and better nightlife. Everything in SD is about rules and limitations. And the cost of entertainment is just overpriced in general. As far as the girls. There's just too many things to worry about in the states. There's way too much bait and switch, it's not legal, bad service, and the girls are generally older. $500-700 sessions are not a sustainable lifestyle for most of us. If you whiff and get bad service then you're screwed. You can try 5 girls in Tijuana for the same price. There's no comparison. Would I get on an airplane to go to Tijuana or stay 3 days? Maybe not. But I would drive a few hours to do Tijuana for sure. If I can drive 4 hours to a clip joint town like Vegas then Tijuana is no problem.
LuvMexicanas
10-25-21, 18:57
Taking a vacation to Tijuana is laughable.Disagree. Some of us live where it's hot as fuck so driving a few hours during summer vacation season to Tijuana where it's 80 compared to 110 degrees is fucking paradise by itself. You throw in one of my favorite foods (tacos) for cheap, a $70 room at Ticuan that'd bust me $200 in San Diego, and tons of chicas putting out for just $60-85 (1200-1700), and it's perfect for me. Are there better pay for play destinations? Of course, but it's difficult for me to get away for more than a few days at a time due to the demands of work.
LOL. That means they are doing well? I just heard a story 1 minute ago that when Drake was working on his first album he would scrape together $5000 per month to rent a Bentley so he could look the part. His manager recently tracked down the car and bought it for him as a gift. Same as Birdman talking about having helicopters on their first songs when he didn't have any helicopters. Or Bow Wow posting a pic of a private jet and someone a few rows behind him on a commercial flight saying he is not in a private jet; he is on this regular airliner with 120 other normal ass folks. Posting a picture does not mean a damn thing.You are right just because she posted a pic doesn't mean that it's hers. To me it made more of an impact on how many guys she is seeing to afford that car if it was hers. It just was a sharpe contrast in how an American escort was flaunting how much she makes as compared to the girls in Mexico giving stories of how poor they are. I also think the comparison between a Twitter escort and a rapper is completely irrelevant. Like you said they are trying to look the part. The escort in my eyes is laughing at the guys that let her pay for that. But who knows maybe some guys like giving that much money to girls.
Exactly. Only reason I have ever been to Tijuana is because I was in the Navy in San Diego over 30 years ago and we would go on weekends. Only reason I go back these days is because I happen to be in San Diego sometimes. I could not see making a special trip to Tijuana when there are much better places to go. Taking a vacation to Tijuana is laughable.There are better places for sure but I don't feel like doing the flight time right now to go to Brazil Or Colombia. I wish I would have moved to Miami in 2011 and bought a house like I planned. It's close to the great mongering places. My dumb ass changed my mind because of a decent job somewhere else.
DramaFree11
10-26-21, 01:54
That's funny. I live in SD and I find it pretty boring compared to Tijuana. Tijuana has better food and better nightlife. Everything in SD is about rules and limitations. And the cost of entertainment is just overpriced in general. As far as the girls. There's just too many things to worry about in the states. There's way too much bait and switch, it's not legal, bad service, and the girls are generally older. $500-700 sessions are not a sustainable lifestyle for most of us. If you whiff and get bad service then you're screwed. You can try 5 girls in Tijuana for the same price. There's no comparison. Would I get on an airplane to go to Tijuana or stay 3 days? Maybe not. But I would drive a few hours to do Tijuana for sure. If I can drive 4 hours to a clip joint town like Vegas then Tijuana is no problem.You guys are so lucky. I will never understand why anyone complains about Tijuana. Great food, so much too do, you are close to everything (LA, SD, Ensenada and Vegas), service is great at the restaurant, affordable and yes, great and affordable night life.
We have Laredo and that sucks ass.
You are right just because she posted a pic doesn't mean that it's hers. To me it made more of an impact on how many guys she is seeing to afford that car if it was hers. It just was a sharpe contrast in how an American escort was flaunting how much she makes as compared to the girls in Mexico giving stories of how poor they are. I also think the comparison between a Twitter escort and a rapper is completely irrelevant. Like you said they are trying to look the part. The escort in my eyes is laughing at the guys that let her pay for that. But who knows maybe some guys like giving that much money to girls.For some guys, that much money is like only $50 to us.
It's "more than they should" spend, but it's budget dust to them too.
For some guys, that much money is like only $50 to us.
It's "more than they should" spend, but it's budget dust to them too.Yeah I guess the guys that spend time with her might like the fact that not every John can afford time with her.
I'll be staying in Tijuana on a coming Sunday to Monday. I initially made reservations at Ticuan for $70 but I'm thinking of cancelling.
I won't have any company on Sunday anyway, because a lot of the major agencies don't work then. So I'm just looking for some place to stay.
Check out is at noon and the agencies don't start until Monday at 10, so it's unlikely I'll have time for morning action.
I could stay at Cascadas, but it's noisy. I'm a one or two shot guy, and so $75 might not be well spent. Plus, escorts won't go there. I can check out a room for $17 with a girl.
The last time I came to Tijuana, I stayed in a very nice airbnb by the border for $50, but it's a bit of a hike, maybe 20 minutes? And I won't be able to receive girls there.
Velario is closer and about $55 but I've read posts saying it dissuades visitors, few agencies will service it, and it's kind of dangerous.
Hotel Aqua Rio has been recommended here, and it's about $47, but agencies won't come.
La Mansion seems like it could be an option. I think they're around $25, and on Sundays (or not weekend days), they let you stay the whole night, from what I read. They'll also allow late check-out, and of course, the agencies visit. The problem is they're kind of far off, so would require an Uber to and from, and there's nothing in the area.
Or I could do no hotel at all, drop in on HK in the afternoon or evening, take appointments in Cascadas, and walk across the border to my car when I'm done.
I'm thinking the sweet spot is Caesars, where rooms are $50, within walking distance of Coahuila and is visited by the agencies in case I do manage to get some action on Monday morning. If I want a duo on Monday, I can hike out to a love motel. Plus, there's a little history to Caesar's, which is nice.
How do you guys think of this plan? Is there anything I overlooked? Like, for example, thought Ticuan would be the best place for me to reserve. But none of the agencies work on Sunday, so why spent extra?
Yeah, ultimately the difference is $20 at most but I can be OCD like that. $20 is a free room rental at Cascadas!
LuvMexicanas
10-26-21, 16:01
I'm thinking the sweet spot is Caesars, where rooms are $50, within walking distance of Coahuila and is visited by the agencies in case I do manage to get some action on Monday morning. If I want a duo on Monday, I can hike out to a love motel. Plus, there's a little history to Caesar's, which is nice.Rio Rita is a better option. Much nicer room. Only drawback is you're limited to one visitor per stay, but that seems ok in your case if I read correctly you're thinking of one session Monday morning.
Captain Solo
10-26-21, 19:31
Clownday,
Hotels Cascada and Ibiza are owned by the HK group. Rooms are relatively nice, clean, modern with showers and towels, much better than the rest of the fuck hotels in La Zona. While they charge $23 to $29 for 30 minutes with bar girls, they charge only $6 for a session with street girls, very good deals in their parallel pricing structure.
There are quite a few street girls in front of Cascada and Ibiza looking and feeling as good and would give as good and as sexy sessions as HK girls. Once you do a few sessions and get to know them, a few can be nice, sweet, fun, sexy and genuinely friendly. It's a lot easier and cheaper to develop friendships with street girls than bar girls, as you should know by now. However, hot street girls may be popular and busy. You just have to know where and when they are likely to work and wait for them to show.
2 popular girls at Cascada back door are Anahi (Anaeve?) and Melanie. Anahi is tall, shapely, big boobs, long legs, lots of guys like her. She works long hours every day and can be found easily. Melanie is also tall and shapely, all natural assets with a sweet and pleasant personality, always smiling, giggling. She has been working only sporadically. A new pair of girls in front of Azuls are tall, slim, looking classy in tasteful dresses, very attractive. My wingman took the tall one to Cascada last week with the standard street rate with her top on. He said she was very nice. Most girls across the alley would also go to Cascada, like Wendy Vampire. She was always hot and horny with me and gave me passionate session, huffing and puffing while she took advantage of me in bed hehe. But Ufrikhan just reported her short timing him. YMMV.
There are about a dozen girls in front of Ibiza. Vanessa is very pretty with her beautiful body, soft, smooth skin. She gave me a very sweet and sexy session. Paola is a tall. Slim girl in her bright party dress, with her pretty, pimpled face and a glittering collar around her neck. Paola loves sex and shows it, groaning, moaning, bucking her hip while she gets her rocks off hehe.
Ximena in front of Caretta is a very pretty girls with her slim body, smooth skin with a few tats. She would be in a trance while immersing herself in the pleasure you give her. Her wallmate is a pretty girl with beautiful body who would give you hot session with extras if asked. Next to them is the tiny Michel, the tiniest girls in the alley, shy and plain in bed.
I met a few street girls who were beautiful and classy, fun to be with. Sessions with them were sweet, tender and loving, far better than with ornery and stuck up bar girls. Regrettably some quit La Zona and never came back. I miss them like good, fun friends. Perhaps you can try a few and advise us where, when, what they look like and how hot they are nin bed.
Here are a few random pics of street girls.
I'll be staying in Tijuana on a coming Sunday to Monday. I initially made reservations at Ticuan for $70 but I'm thinking of cancelling.
I won't have any company on Sunday anyway, because a lot of the major agencies don't work then. So I'm just looking for some place to stay.
Check out is at noon and the agencies don't start until Monday at 10, so it's unlikely I'll have time for morning action.
I could stay at Cascadas, but it's noisy. I'm a one or two shot guy, and so $75 might not be well spent. Plus, escorts won't go there. I can check out a room for $17 with a girl.
The last time I came to Tijuana, I stayed in a very nice airbnb by the border for $50, but it's a bit of a hike, maybe 20 minutes? And I won't be able to receive girls there.
Velario is closer and about $55 but I've read posts saying it dissuades visitors, few agencies will service it, and it's kind of dangerous.
Hotel Aqua Rio has been recommended here, and it's about $47, but agencies won't come.I like your choice of Caesar's. Because the rooms are the same size, but small, I would look for a full-size bed rather than a king.
Clownday,
Hotels Cascada and Ibiza are owned by the HK group. Rooms are relatively nice, clean, modern with showers and towels, much better than the rest of the fuck hotels in La Zona. While they charge $23 to $29 for 30 minutes with bar girls, they charge only $6 for a session with street girls, very good deals in their parallel pricing structure.
There are quite a few street girls in front of Cascada and Ibiza looking and feeling as good and would give as good and as sexy sessions as HK girls. Once you do a few sessions and get to know them, a few can be nice, sweet, fun, sexy and genuinely friendly. It's a lot easier and cheaper to develop friendships with street girls than bar girls, as you should know by now. However, hot street girls may be popular and busy. You just have to know where and when they are likely to work and wait for them to show.
2 popular girls at Cascada back door are Anahi (Anaeve?) and Melanie. Anahi is tall, shapely, big boobs, long legs, lots of guys like her. She works long hours every day and can be found easily. Melanie is also tall and shapely, all natural assets with a sweet and pleasant personality, always smiling, giggling. She has been working only sporadically. A new pair of girls in front of Azuls are tall, slim, looking classy in tasteful dresses, very attractive. My wingman took the tall one to Cascada last week with the standard street rate with her top on. He said she was very nice. Most girls across the alley would also go to Cascada, like Wendy Vampire. She was always hot and horny with me and gave me passionate session, huffing and puffing while she took advantage of me in bed hehe. But Ufrikhan just reported her short timing him. YMMV..Love that body!
G.
Times are changing with the US in terms of covid testing coming into the US.
I have my vaccine but the news is saying the US requires covid test 72 hours in advance. I am assuming this is only at the airport and not if your walking across? Or driving?
I am coming back from Puerto Vallarta in November using CBX so not sure how that will all play out but sure it will be a pain!
G.
Clownday,
Hotels Cascada and Ibiza are owned by the HK group. Rooms are relatively nice, clean, modern with showers and towels, much better than the rest of the fuck hotels in La Zona. While they charge $23 to $29 for 30 minutes with bar girls, they charge only $6 for a session with street girls, very good deals in their parallel pricing structure.I always get a room at Cascadas when I'm down there. I re-up my VIP card when I'm in the zona, since my schedule always gets me there on Mondays and Tuesdays the break on the hotel is unbeatable. The older I get, the more I appreciate how great it is to pay $30 to have your own bed, shower and shitter all day. Since I always use the VIP card, I was just unsure of what the standard price is for an ST room with street girls. I don't recall ever paying more than a few bucks- definitely never over $20.
I love the Ibiza hotel and the hotties outside. I'll pay a bit extra to take a girl to Ibiza or Cascadas. A couple years ago some hottie was standing outside of El Porton, and when I was done, I just felt gross. Ever since then, an overnight room at Cascadas has been non-negotiable for me. Recently it's paid off in spades, because the talent on Constitution over by the Chinese Restaurant and Hotel Irma has been out of control. I do my thing, and straight back to Cascadas for a shower.
The last couple of times I was there, your hotties outside of Cascadas were not there. I'm assuming it's their day off or someone else recognized good talent. Not like it matters, there's so much good stuff on that Malquerida corner, I always feel like a fat kid at a buffet.
Cocr Brotheler
10-27-21, 06:18
Cocr.
But what you posted, you may have bugged out too early to avoid confrontation on minor issues. If you think you will get fired, may as well fight to the end.
US women are spoiled and want men to surrender to them. If the women want to fight you should give it to them. Usually they would back down or lose the fight. They bluff most of the time and have no strength to go through a fight. They can be more easily pressured than men, or in urban language, they have no balls.
Tijuana is very nice. You can pick a hot girl and honeymoon with her. If things turns bad, well, pick another girl for another honeymoon. There are no headache or any serious consequences. You can always fall in love a couple times a week, Life is good.The state job no way I would have fought and won because I am male and they had every thing in their favor (multiple paper documentations on me and in the most liberal city of TX (Austin).), no way. And I had consulted with a couple minority female colleagues who said: 1. Get the hell out ASAP and 2. Don't even try to transfer to another division because they already have a paper file on you; cut the cord and get completely out then can re-apply from the outside (not that I ever want to go back).
The corporate job I think I could of fought but 1. Just coming off the ugly experience in the previous state job and 2. Such a stressful position with insufficient resources I didn't want to remain working there anyways (not worth the extra $). The stress that extra $ brings not worth the adverse impact on my health. And I did negotiate a good separation agreement ($).
Now my current job is busy but they leave me alone and not nearly as stressful. Plus they are talking about putting us on 9/80's so I can come out to Tijuana more frequently! .
Captain Solo
10-27-21, 07:42
I hope you did not do to these women at work what you normally do to HK girls, I. E. Squeezing boobs, grabbing butts, groping crotches, poking pussies.
You need to deprogram your brain immediately after you leave HK to go back to Texas, or one of these days you may get lynched by a mob of short, fat, ugly, sexless Texas women.
LuvMexicanas
10-27-21, 16:09
Times are changing with the US in terms of covid testing coming into the US.
I have my vaccine but the news is saying the US requires covid test 72 hours in advance. I am assuming this is only at the airport and not if your walking across? Or driving?
I am coming back from Puerto Vallarta in November using CBX so not sure how that will all play out but sure it will be a pain!
G.Read the CBX thread to get your answers.
Member #4730
10-27-21, 16:33
Read the CBX thread to get your answers.I just got from Cancun a few weeks ago and no Covid test for CBX. I will have to take one before heading to Paris for NYE.
Times are changing with the US in terms of covid testing coming into the US.
I have my vaccine but the news is saying the US requires covid test 72 hours in advance. I am assuming this is only at the airport and not if your walking across? Or driving?
I am coming back from Puerto Vallarta in November using CBX so not sure how that will all play out but sure it will be a pain!
G.At the airports, it's the airlines, because of Government guidelines, that are requiring you to show a negative COVID test.
You don't require it for land crossings. The CBX is just another land crossing. You should be fine.
Times are changing with the US in terms of covid testing coming into the US.
I have my vaccine but the news is saying the US requires covid test 72 hours in advance. I am assuming this is only at the airport and not if your walking across? Or driving?
I am coming back from Puerto Vallarta in November using CBX so not sure how that will all play out but sure it will be a pain!
G.You are flying into Tijuana not the US so none of the new rules that are starting in November will apply to you.
You are flying into Tijuana not the US so none of the new rules that are starting in November will apply to you.Ah. Perfecto. I was hoping that was the case but seems odd that thousands can cross by land but not by air. Maybe that's the way it is with all countries including Europe.
G.
I was hoping that was the case but seems odd that thousands can cross by land but not by air.
G.Yeah not much common sense in our government.
....Here are a few random pics of street girls.Never saw streetwalkers looking like that in my visits to Tijuana many years ago. I always partook at Adelitas and HK. If I had seen streetwalkers looking like that they would certainly have got the benefit of my lollypop.
Yeah not much common sense in our government.It's more the expected geographic distribution.
Nobody is local by air.
Captain Solo
10-28-21, 17:42
Turgid,
That's Claudia. She looks and feels nice, clean, pretty like a Japanese porcelain doll with soft, smooth skin and a genuinely gentle, happy, sexy personality.
A few girls in front of Ibiza, Irma and Caretta look and feel as good or better than Claudia. They tend to be reserved, not as slick and manipulative as urban girls in bars, but once you get to know them and treat them right, you will get genuine tender, loving care.
Here are pics of sexy spinner Paola. She worked on and off in front of Cascada, then HK.
Hello all,
Was planning on being in SD next week and maybe a few days in Tijuana. Wanted to know what the new requirements are for crossing:
1. Is covid tested needed for entering MX and returning to US by foot?
2. I have read you need to fill out the FMM form to enter which is fine have done that before but is there anything new about it?
I have read about 10 post back in both this forum and the escort forum for Tijuana could not fine any info.
Gov websites don't give any clare info. Thank you for you help.
You need important reason to cross. If they ask tell them you have a dental appt. Search for for a dentist & write it down. You will need a passport. Sometimes the Mexican immigration officials will not make you get a FMM / visa But be prepared to get one. They cost $30. The last few times I crossed the border they were more strict about the FMM forms.
Hello all,
Was planning on being in SD next week and maybe a few days in Tijuana. Wanted to know what the new requirements are for crossing:.
1. Is covid tested needed for entering MX and returning to US by foot?
2. I have read you need to fill out the FMM form to enter which is fine have done that before but is there anything new about it?
I have read about 10 post back in both this forum and the escort forum for Tijuana could not fine any info.
Gov websites don't give any clare info. Thank you for you help.
Make sure and have a confirmation for the appointment. My wingman always uses this and the last time they actually wanted to see a confirmation. He did not have it and had to pay.
TBH the $30 is no big deal for me. I save the visa and use it until it expires. Like you mentioned it is still possible to cross without one but it seems they getting more strict about this.
Like other fees being paid at the border there is no or very little traceability here with the money. Got the feeling there is a lot of money finding its way into the pockets of the people taking the money. As long as they stamp my visa correctly I am good.
You need important reason to cross. If they ask tell them you have a dental appt. Search for for a dentist & write it down. You will need a passport. Sometimes the Mexican immigration officials will not make you get a FMM / visa But be prepared to get one. They cost $30. The last few times I crossed the border they were more strict about the FMM forms.
I went down to the Zona over 10 years ago. Back then I did not partake much in street girls. My current crew of wingmen and I been going down for 5 years. In that time there has always been good street girls.
Basically I spend the night going from HK to Tropical to Chicago and maybe add Adelitas in the mix depending on how I am feeling towards Adelitas as they have been the club I have had the most problems with. Sometimes I will pop in a smaller club and if I see a girl I want to get a drink with will spend time in there. Two things happen on this trip to club to club. One I get to walk and clear my mind. Two I know where the good street girls go and I make sure and swing by those locations.
During the morning (known from experience) or noon time (what I hear) good street girls will stay out for a while before getting a date. These are the best times to find good street girls if you expect to walk the streets once or twice and find one. At night time the good ones are busy getting work I assume. I will see a good one. Not see her again on my next couple trips around the streets and then on the 4th trip see her again. Then I may not see her again for that day.
Never saw streetwalkers looking like that in my visits to Tijuana many years ago. I always partook at Adelitas and HK. If I had seen streetwalkers looking like that they would certainly have got the benefit of my lollypop.
You need important reason to cross. If they ask tell them you have a dental appt.Thank you sir.
So I guess no need for neg covid test.
Make sure and have a confirmation for the appointment. My wingman always uses this and the last time they actually wanted to see a confirmation.Thank you. Trying to get an email confirmation one place responded with waiting on others.
Captain Solo
10-30-21, 19:42
Fanny is pretty like a Chinese opera star with beautiful, supple, flawless body, no tats.
A very nice, sweet, sexy girl, she would go to Ibiza or Cascada and do everything to please you.
Thank you. Trying to get an email confirmation one place responded with waiting on others.Yes, same here. I used the dentist reason a few times but then the last time they wanted proof. I just purchased a 6 mo visa for $30 and told them I was planning a trip to baja coming up.
Heading down to Tijuana today if anyone is looking to connect up PM message me.
G.
I have read about 10 post back in both this forum and the escort forum for Tijuana could not fine any info.You went a WHOLE 10 posts back.
Or go by car, no questions.
But the last 2 times I wandered over, was not asked.
https://www.google.com/search?q=can+I+just+walk+into+mexico+covid+test&rlz=1 C5 CHFA_enUS725 US725&oq=can+I+just+walk+into+mexico+covid+test&aqs=chrome. 69 i57 j33 i160.6095 j1 j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8.
Anyone for / need wingman Sunday Sept 5 let me know.
How was your Sunday experience? Mexico seems to slow down on Sunday. Many of the agencies aren't open. They stay open in Europe, Canada and the US!
I use Red Pocket as my provider. They charge $9 for 1 GB of international data. I don't need service that much, except for a few things. I see some OXXOs have free WiFi, but I'm not sure about the ones closest to Zona Norte. Thanks!
I use Red Pocket as my provider. They charge $9 for 1 GB of international data. I don't need service that much, except for a few things. I see some OXXOs have free WiFi, but I'm not sure about the ones closest to Zona Norte. Thanks!I always go to the Caliente in the alley if I need to use wifi. Fast and free. Lately I've also been pretty lucky with international roaming in the Zona on AT&T. I have also used the wifi in HK / Cascadas and Adelita but it's been spotty at best.
I always go to the Caliente in the alley if I need to use wifi. Fast and free. Lately I've also been pretty lucky with international roaming in the Zona on AT&T. I have also used the wifi in HK / Cascadas and Adelita but it's been spotty at best.The casino behind HK? That looks good to me -- cool, thanks so much for the tip!
I always go to the Caliente in the alley if I need to use wifi. Fast and free. Lately I've also been pretty lucky with international roaming in the Zona on AT&T. I have also used the wifi in HK / Cascadas and Adelita but it's been spotty at best.Why do I not recall HK having wifi?
I've sat there in cellular darkness quite a bit.
LuvMexicanas
10-31-21, 18:28
I always go to the Caliente in the alley if I need to use wifi. Fast and free. Lately I've also been pretty lucky with international roaming in the Zona on AT&T. I have also used the wifi in HK / Cascadas and Adelita but it's been spotty at best.You could eliminate the luck component by switching to T-Mobile. I've had zero issues along the many border towns, on the coast (eg Vallarta) and deep interior (eg CDMX). If you plan on spending a lot of time in Mexico, T-Mobile is a pretty good way to go.
Captain Solo
11-01-21, 07:59
Started going down about 4 with 3 other guys, traffic was clear all the way, got to La Zona about 5:30. Sun was still out, La Zona was nice, warm, happy, bustling with lots of people on streets. The bros was hungry but were anxious to get in HK so we decided to order food inside.
Got a booth on the balcony right above main stage, drinking beers, watching strip show, ogling hot girls. The noob was partying all night before and was in La Zona first time, but on the way to HK he saw a hot street girl and had to bag her, so he went out by himself for her. He came back all happy, proceeded to pick up a few hot HK girls to sit and grope.
A couple groups of guys tried to seize our booth, but an old time mesero knew me and headed them off. A hard partying bro ordered a $200 Jack Daniels bottle with mixers and we started drinking, feeding it to the girls with our little private Halloween party. A wingman found his favorite girl in the last couple trips. They were drinking, talking their heads off, while kissing and groping, with his nonexistent Spanish, like real lovers.
Eventually other ISG bros found us, a few driving long distances from out of state. We missed out on a few bros due to miscommunication. Hope to meet up next trip. A bro showed up with 4 stacks of single dollar bills, immersing in the sexy scene and started raining propinas on the stage. They ordered food from Azul's and were gulping down in earnest. The bros were all unknown to each other, but they quickly clicked and had fun. They took a couple HK girls upstairs and came back down drinking, talking.
HK had 2 women in Halloween costumes and painted faces doing a long strip show with all sorts of lesbian sex on the main stage. The women were large and lumpy with droopy boobs and sagging butts, but the crowd just loved the erotic show and rained propinas. The pair gathered about $200 in tips.
By 10 we decided to go to Las Pulgas to check out the local club scene.
Las Pulgas Halloween party.
Las Pulgas is only 1 mile South of HK, a $5 cab ride. A long line was waiting to get in, taking like an hour. I suggested a Spanish-speaking bro to bribe the security guys to cut the line. They wanted $5 a head and we went in the lobby. Had to pay $8 cover so the bros decided to leave. I told the security the club was "No Bueno" and asked for our money back. Surprisingly the security goons handed our money back hehe. The waiting line was mostly single guys, only a few girls in huge costumes and face paints, looking unattractive. We felt we did not miss anything inside and decided to walk back to La Zona on Revolucion.
Party on Revolucion, Trannies on Call1.
About 11, hundreds of men and women, some in costumes, were out partying on Revo in sidewalk bars and on streets. The scene was festive and happy. A bar had large banners, premium beers for 15 pesos compared to 100 pesos or $5 in HK. Damn. Lots of young people were drinking and partying in sidewalk bars. You could potentially meet and talk to many young girls at these bars instead of paying cover to put up with loud music in Las Pulgas.
The bros were having a good time walking among the revelers. On Calle 1 a few hot girls, taller and chunkier than normal, were hanging out in front of hotels near the Arch. They were looking at us smiling, inviting without saying or gesturing. The bros immediately speculated trannies. I came over, inquiring with the hottest one. She wanted 800 pesos for a session with a feminine voice laced with only a tiny bit of a deep tone. I groped "her" crotch and found a good-sized dick, semi erect, packed tight to the crotch. I backed out. Her huge wall mate Shrek seemed pissed that I sampled the goods without buying and slapped my hands. Never know what a woman would do when scorned. We quickly retreated hehe.
New hot spinners on Consitucion.
We checked out Adelitas which was fairly crowded, found a few hot girls, but ventilation was way inadequate, the air was unbearably hot and humid. We took a pit stop and left quickly.
On the way back to Chicago we found a few hot new young girls on Constitucion. Chicago had about 80 guys and 40 girls, stripping on stage, wallowing in a hot tub and rolling around in a foam show on the back stage, sitting around the bar. I found 2 or 3 doable. Guys were sitting around the stage poking and inserting weird things in their crotches. The bros again drank and talked with their favorite girls.
A bro and I went back out to the street looking for the hot street girls. Midnight the streets were well lit and busy with people and lots of street girls. We were hanging out on the street, watching the lively scene, talking to girls and locals. Everything seemed fun and peaceful. 2 hot spinners were posting in front of hotel Michoacan. Anna was a tiny girl with a pretty smiling face, light skin. Took her in the hotel. She looked nice, clean, sexy with clothes off. Her tiny, nice, tight, youthful, all natural body, nice flat ab, tiny and bald kitty. She was tight and firm, definitely never had babies, looked and felt just like the little baby sitter next door. Got an instant erection for the third session of the night. She was so tight I had to try hard many times but only got in half way. I was pumping her tiny kitty hard and fast, rocking the bed; she seemed to like sex a lot. She was so attractive, sexy and erotic but I ran out of time, could not pop, was considering doing a double session with her. Reported her in the street girls thread, really want to do her again soon.
The bro had way too much to drink and was still in Chicago with his girls. I had serious doubt he could do anything with her in bed but he was staying and not coming out.
Another spinner Anahi came back, big boobs, long shapely legs, looking hot in a nice dress and white sneakers, like a real Universidad student hehe. I could not resist, took her in Michoacan. Her body looked nice and sexy, face average. I got erected quickly, again screwing her hard and fast, rocking the bed, and popped big. Also want to repeat with her.
Chicago BB deals.
About 2 AM a bro came out of Chicago, did an hour BB session with a hot girl for $180, not a bad deal. The drunk bro was still missing. We waited then walked back in Chicago looking for him. The mesero immediately knew whom we talked about, said he was still upstairs. We sat in the bar and waited. Eventually he came stumbling into the club with severely slurred speech. His girl also came down, frowning, giving him dirty looks. He had a dispute with the girl in the room; she called security goons and he had to pay $350. Looked like he was way too drunk, had a hard time performing, stayed a long time in the room, like 90 minutes. So he had to pay her for 3 sessions, $300, plus $50 for extended room. It worked out about right. Out on the street he was pissed, declared loudly with his slurred speech that he would never come back to Chicago. Will see. In a few days he may be missing the smell, taste and feels of that juicy pussy and hurry back to eat it up hehe.
Had a long but fun night with the wingmen and hot sex with a couple girls. Already planning to come back in a couple days to do long sessions with those sexy little spinners.
Life is sweet and sexy.
T-mobile usually works in Tijuana. I will sometimes switch directly to the Telcel towers if the reception is poor. If this happens turn off adapting tower selection & select T-mobile. You many have to restart your phone.
You could eliminate the luck component by switching to T-Mobile. I've had zero issues along the many border towns, on the coast (eg Vallarta) and deep interior (eg CDMX). If you plan on spending a lot of time in Mexico, T-Mobile is a pretty good way to go.
Pre-printing the FMM form helped me avoid the fee at the border. I think because the pre-printed form is actually registered with the Government. Anyway. It worked for me this trip. I showed them my form on entry. I got in with no FMM fee.
Form at https://www.inm.gob.mx/fmme/publico/en/solicitud.html.
Another guy said he was charged $30 fee on Saturday night. So that FMM shakedown is still on.
Fanny is pretty like a Chinese opera star with beautiful, supple, flawless body, no tats.
A very nice, sweet, sexy girl, she would go to Ibiza or Cascada and do everything to please you.Fanny is often my good night fuck.
Agree she has a great personality.
I used to take pride walking her from the taco stand corner opposite Ibiza to my room Cascadas. Like walking with a trophy.
She had an awesome body before covid. But put on some pounds during covid and I would no longer call her slim or her body as awesome.
As far a F'ing. Something is not a good about her pussy once you penetrate. It's like too loose after entry.
But, she does know how to give a great fuck when riding you because she makes sure your tip is going in / out without going too deep.
Despite some weight gain I still do her for my goodnight Fuck, even post covid. But she was not there last weekend.
Explorer8939
11-02-21, 01:49
I just got here and am stuffing my face in Azul restaurant.
When I got to the Mexican side of the border, I told them I was staying one night, and was going shopping. I got ushered into a side room and given a lecture about Mexico not being open to tourists. But no need for a bribe, the guy let me go on without even checking my passport.
I walked to the Taxi Libre spot (it changes constantly), checked the price, got into a taxi, and told the "100 pesos". He reluctantly agreed. But, then he passed my destination (Cascadas) and stopped in front of Adelitas, telling me this was Cascadas.
No tip for him.
RocksWithSalt
11-02-21, 02:07
When I got to the Mexican side of the border, I told them I was staying one night, and was going shopping. I got ushered into a side room and given a lecture about Mexico not being open to tourists. But no need for a bribe, the guy let me go on without even checking my passport.
This is the current status of Mexico. They use a stop light system. Green is resume normal activities with caution, Yellow some limitations, orange is please stay home. Looks like only the area south of California is rated orange as of 10/31. The snowbirds who winter in Mexico are arriving in the beach areas. Mexico is open for business.
Fanny is often my good night fuck.
Agree she has a great personality.
I used to take pride walking her from the taco stand corner opposite Ibiza to my room Cascadas. Like walking with a trophy.
She had an awesome body before covid. But put on some pounds during covid and I would no longer call her slim or her body as awesome.
As far a F'ing. Something is not a good about her pussy once you penetrate. It's like too loose after entry.
But, she does know how to give a great fuck when riding you because she makes sure your tip is going in / out without going too deep.
Despite some weight gain I still do her for my goodnight Fuck, even post covid. But she was not there last weekend.This is the girl who owns the corner on same side of street as hk back door but on the east side right,? She's the only girl whoever works that spot besides the 4 foot 10 heavy woman who doesn't even dress up or anything. She's been out there for what feels like 8 months a year for 5 years. I always try to buy her a drink get some food. All she wants to do is work. She is a good chick, if you left your phone or wallet and walked out she'd bring it to you immediately. She also has feminine behavior opposed to hardened street girls who essentially act like men or angry trans. She got herself a boyfriend 3 or 4 months ago. A gringo I think she said. Pissed me off because now her head is in the phone talking to him constantly. I wish she would just go live with him I kind of hate seeing her out there banging so many guys.
FlagRunner77
11-02-21, 13:06
At very last minute, I'm visiting Tijuana for the first time on Wednesday for 5 days! I'm frantically reading through as much as I can. It appears Ticuan is the place for me in terms of accommodation (I need to work a little).
It's a bit daunting on my own, especially with very little time to research. If anyone happens to be in zona Norte between Wednesday and Saturday, PM me and perhaps we can team up for a while!
BrotherMouzone
11-02-21, 14:43
T-mobile usually works in Tijuana. I will sometimes switch directly to the Telcel towers if the reception is poor. If this happens turn off adapting tower selection & select T-mobile. You many have to restart your phone.Yeah, I have Sprint / T-Mobile and roaming internet service works very well in like 90% of places (and is free with my plan). One issue I've had is internet never seems to work once I cross the border into Tijuana so I always have to catch a taxi (as opposed to Uber) if I can't get the 10 peso bus. Internet doesn't seem to work until the taxi takes me further into Tijuana a bit. Maybe it's just a matter of restarting my phone.
BrotherMouzone
11-02-21, 14:49
Pre-printing the FMM form helped me avoid the fee at the border. I think because the pre-printed form is actually registered with the Government. Anyway. It worked for me this trip. I showed them my form on entry. I got in with no FMM fee.
Form at https://www.inm.gob.mx/fmme/publico/en/solicitud.html.
Another guy said he was charged $30 fee on Saturday night. So that FMM shakedown is still on.Yeah, filling out the FMM form beforehand is also a signal to the Mexican customs officials that you're an experienced, somewhat knowledgeable border crosser (even if you actually aren't). They'd much, much rather "pick on" someone less experienced and less knowledgeable about the FMM paperwork as those people would tend to be much easier to shake down for the fee.
You also have to have T-Mobile's Mexico (North American plan) of course. T-Mobile's Mexico plan is only $5 a month.
Yeah, I have Sprint / T-Mobile and roaming internet service works very well in like 90% of places (and is free with my plan). One issue I've had is internet never seems to work once I cross the border into Tijuana so I always have to catch a taxi (as opposed to Uber) if I can't get the 10 peso bus. Internet doesn't seem to work until the taxi takes me further into Tijuana a bit. Maybe it's just a matter of restarting my phone.
BrotherMouzone
11-02-21, 17:41
You also have to have T-Mobile's Mexico (North American plan) of course. T-Mobile's Mexico plan is only $5 a month.I don't know anything about that particular plan. I'm in something called the Sprint Wireless Advantage Club (which is now under T-Mobile since the recent merger) which is a discount program for family and friends of Sprint employees. In that club, there's an "Advantage Unlimited" plan where, in addition to unlimited talk, text, and data for a relatively cheap price you get unlimited talk, text, and LTE data in Mexico and Canada at no additional cost.
Testing 1140 PM Nov1 From room.
149 Mb down.
98 Mb up.
Testing at 2 pm Nov2 from the restaurant.
90 Mb down.
18 Mb up.
Testing Nov2 at 7 pm from room.
155 Mb down.
92 Mb up.
My Roku stick is wayyyyyyy happier this trip than ever before.
Cocr Brotheler
11-03-21, 06:18
I hope you did not do to these women at work what you normally do to HK girls, I. E. Squeezing boobs, grabbing butts, groping crotches, poking pussies.
You need to deprogram your brain immediately after you leave HK to go back to Texas, or one of these days you may get lynched by a mob of short, fat, ugly, sexless Texas women.LOL! Almost believe new Texas sex felony law a ploy by the many many big fat disgusting beef-eater women here to garner more dates (seriously).
Oh no so much as even look at a woman "differently" in the workplace more than a few seconds fired immediately and walked out the door.
Cocr Brotheler
11-03-21, 06:23
Fanny is pretty like a Chinese opera star with beautiful, supple, flawless body, no tats.
A very nice, sweet, sexy girl, she would go to Ibiza or Cascada and do everything to please you.Nice hairy Bush and tight bunzs!
Cocr Brotheler
11-03-21, 06:38
At very last minute, I'm visiting Tijuana for the first time on Wednesday for 5 days! I'm frantically reading through as much as I can. It appears Ticuan is the place for me in terms of accommodation (I need to work a little).
It's a bit daunting on my own, especially with very little time to research. If anyone happens to be in zona Norte between Wednesday and Saturday, PM me and perhaps we can team up for a while!Just "nest" in Ticuan for your stay nice and comfy and safe and head on out when not working for the fun sexy times. You can walk all of la zona Norte in 10-15 minutes and will most likely end up in HK the best place whilst exploring the other solid options. I would say spend 2 hours or so researching back in this thread maybe 6 months and take copious notes and printout a map.
Captain Solo
11-03-21, 07:01
Cocr,
You got the idea. Old, ugly, obese, sexless feminists in Texas pushed felony prostitution law to lock your dick in the house so they can molest you with their stinky pussies and general ugliness.
Women always think guys make passes at them. Just close your eyes and pinch your nose so you won't be assaulted and permanently injured by their ugly faces, obese bodies and stinky pussies.
This is the girl who owns the corner on same side of street as hk back door but on the east side right,?
She also has feminine behavior opposed to hardened street girls who essentially act like men or angry trans. She got herself a boyfriend 3 or 4 months ago. A gringo I think she said.Yes- that's the right corner for Fanny.
She stands out because she is far prettier than others in that area.
Also agree she has very nice feminine behaviors.
The fact that she now had a gringo boyfriend may explain why she wasn't there last weekend. I wish her the best.
....Oh no so much as even look at a woman "differently" in the workplace more than a few seconds fired immediately and walked out the door.However, if you're a Brad Pitt look alike and seriously wealthy you're in like Flynn.
Mr Enternational
11-03-21, 16:03
I walked to the Taxi Libre spot (it changes constantly), checked the price, got into a taxi, and told the "100 pesos". He reluctantly agreed. But, then he passed my destination (Cascadas) and stopped in front of Adelitas, telling me this was Cascadas.
No tip for him.LOL. Seeing that the tip was already included, why would he care. I have always paid 50 pesos without even having to discuss it.
BrotherMouzone
11-03-21, 16:31
LOL. Seeing that the tip was already included, why would he care. I have always paid 50 pesos without even having to discuss it.Yeah, all of us that pay $5/$6 for that taxi ride (myself included) are overpaying anyway. For comparisons sake, Uber rides from the border to Hong Kong are often slightly under $2 these days (and generally wouldn't be more than $2. 50/$3).
LOL. Seeing that the tip was already included, why would he care. I have always paid 50 pesos without even having to discuss it.It's just like the SW girls. It's how you approach the issue.
"How Much" is just asking what the current based on your looks max price is.
Walking of of Ticuan, handing over 50 pesos and saying "Hong Kong". Means the price is 50 pesos. They know that I know that. It's 50 pesos.
LuvMexicanas
11-03-21, 20:16
Yeah, all of us that pay $5/$6 for that taxi ride (myself included) are overpaying anyway. For comparisons sake, Uber rides from the border to Hong Kong are often slightly under $2 these days (and generally wouldn't be more than $2. 50/$3).I sometimes just walk. It's free and a little exercise never hurt anyone. Of course, some may not be able to due to health conditions or if they brought a crapload of luggage like a prima donna.
I sometimes just walk. It's free and a little exercise never hurt anyone. Of course, some may not be able to due to health conditions or if they brought a crapload of luggage like a prima donna.I only bring my self, sometimes a cheap cell phone, passport, a light wallet, and the clothes on my back. Less is more in Tijuana and you really don't want to lose any valuables down there when your drunk or high, or like I was in the past all the above.
As prices are going up we got to find ways to save a few bucks.
One idea I had was have one person buy a drink for a girl who sits / stands at the stools and you and a bro tip her while groping the hell out of her. Normally only one guy would do this when he buys a drink but if both guys are tipping and groping the meseros probably will leave the guys alone and they both get to enjoy the girl a little tag-team-way.
G.
What is the deal with those Mexican guys that approach you when you get out of your cab to cross at Pedeast about a ride over the border, they always say there is a 3 hour wait. Is their ride legitimate and how much does it cost?. Does it save you any time. Also Monday non essential traffic will be permitted into Mexico. However only Pedeast will be open for foot traffic, Pedwest will remain closed.
FlagRunner77
11-04-21, 16:05
Is anyone in town today? I'm planning to head to ZN around 1 pm to get things underway. PM me of you are around and wouldn't mind meeting up for a while.
Baxter Slade
11-04-21, 16:23
What is the deal with those Mexican guys that approach you when you get out of your cab to cross at Pedeast about a ride over the border, they always say there is a 3 hour wait. Is their ride legitimate and how much does it cost?. Does it save you any time. Also Monday non essential traffic will be permitted into Mexico. However only Pedeast will be open for foot traffic, Pedwest will remain closed.Those guys you are talking about with some ID hanging around there neck would sell you a seat on a bus for around $7 to $10 the bus would wait until full and then drive into a bus line where you would sit on the bus until you got to the front. Then you would get off and walk through customs.
These days the douche bag dudes discovered a way to skip the buses and for around $25 dollars they will walk you to the front of the line. I don't want to give to many details how they are able to pull this off but it is certainly not fair to all those people who have been waiting in line.
Mr Enternational
11-04-21, 18:07
I sometimes just walk. It's free and a little exercise never hurt anyone. Of course, some may not be able to due to health conditions or if they brought a crapload of luggage like a prima donna.I had been walking it for 25 years, then I went down with a buddy that said let's take this taxi for 50 pesos. Then after that, I went down one day with Cool and he said let's take this bus for 10 pesos. Many times I still walk it for the nostalgia of when I was in the Navy and first started going.
Also Monday non essential traffic will be permitted into Mexico. However only Pedeast will be open for foot traffic, Pedwest will remain closed.Speaking of Monday when they open up the border I saw a headline in the Tijuana newspaper that the CBP is expecting long lines since they will probably be strict on checking for vaccine proof for the non American visitors. So anyone that is planning on visiting that week and trying to cross I would plan on expecting a longer wait and to plan accordingly if you need to catch a flight or something.
What is the deal with those Mexican guys that approach you when you get out of your cab to cross at Pedeast about a ride over the border, they always say there is a 3 hour wait. Is their ride legitimate and how much does it cost?. Does it save you any time. Also Monday non essential traffic will be permitted into Mexico. However only Pedeast will be open for foot traffic, Pedwest will remain closed.You may end up waiting on a bus for a long time. And I wouldn't believe anything they say about how long the wait is in the regular line.
You may end up waiting on a bus for a long time. And I wouldn't believe anything they say about how long the wait is in the regular line.I did the bus once in March. It's a covid disaster. Packed bus no window 45 minutes on the bus. The line was a 3 hrs line that day and overall it took maybe hour 20 minutes with the bus. Cause you still have to spend 7 minutes walking to the bus waiting for it to fill up. The line at the border, with Christmas season here, and thousands Mexicans in need of shopping, there must be a million Mexicans in or near Tijuana with tourists visas and they don't miss San Diego or LA. They miss the outlet shopping. That lines gonna be 5 to 7 hours I bet.
Explorer8939
11-05-21, 00:11
The Ped East line was 50 minutes this morning.
Ped West opens next week.
PokerLover11
11-05-21, 00:25
Speaking of Monday when they open up the border I saw a headline in the Tijuana newspaper that the CBP is expecting long lines since they will probably be strict on checking for vaccine proof for the non American visitors. So anyone that is planning on visiting that week and trying to cross I would plan on expecting a longer wait and to plan accordingly if you need to catch a flight or something.There could be 40% less of a line and how can they really check to see if it is real, Mexico is the capitol of fake documents biggest problem will be in December when the deadline for CBP to be vaccinated, I heard up to 40% will walk out they have job offers in Texas to remain unvaccinated.
Where would one go for premium condom shopping in Tijuana?
A search led to a lot of BBFS discussions, but no shopping ones.
Where would one go for premium condom shopping in Tijuana?
A search led to a lot of BBFS discussions, but no shopping ones.I use trojan piel natural myself, that are the best for feeling and they can be bought at Oxxo or any farmacia. Beyond that I would just bring your own from the states.
There could be 40% less of a line and how can they really check to see if it is real, Mexico is the capitol of fake documents biggest problem will be in December when the deadline for CBP to be vaccinated, I heard up to 40% will walk out they have job offers in Texas to remain unvaccinated.Not sure how opening up the border will mean 40% less of a line. I think the whole essential travel thing has not been enforced except for one day when they had the line to cross over 8 hours by car. Now I hope for those traveling across everyday it's not that bad but I think what the CBP was warning of is that they will be stricter at checking vaccine proof in the beginning even though they are only supposed to send suspicious cases to secondary to verify vaccine status.
Yes they have many fake documents in Mexico which is why the CBP will be checking the documents more in the beginning to get an idea of what is real and not. I don't work for the CBP but once the start to have evidence of fake documents and what to look for it will make it easier to identify.
Hopefully the CBP vaccine mandate will be extended or removed, but if it's not who knows how bad the border will get.
The Ped East line was 50 minutes this morning.
Ped West opens next week.I haven't seen anything that the CBP will be opening the Ped West crossing next week. I think with the migrant camp still over there they will keep it closed. Even when I read the CBP info on next weeks opening it said that pedestrian traffic was going to be thru the East only. So will shall see if that changes.
As prices are going up we got to find ways to save a few bucks.
One idea I had was have one person buy a drink for a girl who sits / stands at the stools and you and a bro tip her while groping the hell out of her. Normally only one guy would do this when he buys a drink but if both guys are tipping and groping the meseros probably will leave the guys alone and they both get to enjoy the girl a little tag-team-way.
G.Good idea Gregyyr. But only for us loners. Guys who go in groups already do this.
You & I did a variant of this last weekend. You bought that beautiful gal a drink and invited me to grope her too. So we have already done this.
In many booths I see the girl get groped by all guys in the booth and she even lap dances for all.
So, definitely when two guys like the same girl this is an awesome idea. Whether one person at a time buys a drink for two gropers. Or whether tow guys tip with no drink for the gal.
biggest problem will be in December when the deadline for CBP to be vaccinated, I heard up to 40% will walk out they have job offers in Texas to remain unvaccinated.That's what the unions and other science-denying pendejos want you to believe, but when push comes to shove, very few will actually walk.
Look what happened with New York City employees.
That's what the unions and other science-denying pendejos want you to believe, but when push comes to shove, very few will actually walk.
Look what happened with New York City employees.Well I can't speak for the CBP officers but I think a lot of people that worked the whole time out in the public without a vaccine and risked getting sick or their family getting sick and maybe already getting COVID and having natural antibodies now feel disrespected when they are forced to get a shot.
Those guys you are talking about with some ID hanging around there neck would sell you a seat on a bus for around $7 to $10 the bus would wait until full and then drive into a bus line where you would sit on the bus until you got to the front. Then you would get off and walk through customs.
These days the douche bag dudes discovered a way to skip the buses and for around $25 dollars they will walk you to the front of the line. I don't want to give to many details how they are able to pull this off but it is certainly not fair to all those people who have been waiting in line.Is there a reason to guard this information? I've read on civilian sites that they expedite you by having someone in the line, and you take their place.
Member #4730
11-06-21, 01:32
I just got back from Tijuana after a week with a regular. No pedestrian line at 3 pm on Friday and the Sentri car lane took 20 min. Not sure when they check for C19 vaccination. All they asked was if I brought anything back. I'll post more about the week with regular, getting Airbnb for 2 months, getting a car in Tijuana, more bar girl insights, and meeting her religious Tya.
Is there a reason to guard this information? I've read on civilian sites that they expedite you by having someone in the line, and you take their place.I had a friend who didn't realize how long the line would be and needed to get back to San Diego for something she had going on. When she got out of the taxi at the drop off in Tijuana someone approached her that for $40 they would get her to skip much of the line. She said ok and they told her to get in their wheel chair and they proceeded to wheel her past a block of people. They couldn't go past the border patrol guys checking ID's but saved her maybe 30 or 45 minutes.
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I think a lot of people that worked the whole time out in the public without a vaccine and risked getting sick or their family getting sick and maybe already getting COVID and having natural antibodies now feel disrespected when they are forced to get a shot.I knew a guy like that. He died of COVID. But not before infecting his parents, one of whom lived.
I just got back from Tijuana after a week with a regular. No pedestrian line at 3 pm on Friday and the Sentri car lane took 20 min. Not sure when they check for C19 vaccination. All they asked was if I brought anything back. I'll post more about the week with regular, getting Airbnb for 2 months, getting a car in Tijuana, more bar girl insights, and meeting her religious Tya.The border full reopening starts Monday. The last thing I've read was that Tijuana will have 50 extra traffic patrols and 30 police to help conduct traffic on the rápida. Seems like they are preparing people to expect a real "s" show for the first couple of days and hopefully it doesn't last to long. I hope you are enjoying your time living in Tijuana and don't have to deal with crossing on a daily basis. I don't think the Sentri will be as bad.
Member #4730
11-06-21, 06:28
Thursday I went to Tijuana airport to pick up a regular flying in from GDL. I wasn't quite sure what to expect so didn't book a hotel. I ended up getting a fruit bowl from a street vendor on the side of the street near the airport. The regular texted she was landing and had to get her luggage. I pulled up to the arrivals and she was escorted to the car with her luggage by some guy. Apparently I'm supposed to tip this random guy that helped with her luggage.
She gives me a big hug and kiss and off we went. It is always awkward when I pick her up as not sure what to expect, but she is always warm and friendly. I guess it has to do with my insecurities of dating a bar girl. She is making out with me at every stop and things are back to normal in my mind. I feel at home and she is always so passionate. I ask her if everything is alright and if she got all of her clothes from her friends home in GDL. She went on the short trip to get the rest of her clothes. Her friend rents a 3 br condo in GDL for $150 per month which I found shocking as you couldn't even find a rental in Tijuana for that amount. She asked previously if I was interested in moving, but I have too many obligations in the USA To pull off remote working full-time.
I forgot a lot of things that happened as I spent a whole week together with her, but stayed 3 nights at the Marriott and ate at numerous restaurants (LOS Arcos, El Potrero Carnes, The Park, Nigori Sushi, Cerveceria Chapultepec, Restaurant Mexicano, and numerous visits to Caffenio).
After the 2nd or 3rd day together we decided to give living together a try. I booked 2 months at an Airbnb and it is in a rough looking area, but quiet. Also has numerous mini marts and tons of stray dogs that roam at all hours. As the Airbnb is 3 miles from the center of town, I decided to get her a car to use during the week. I had a hard time trying to convert $15 k in USD to peso as every place in the USA Wanted statements, proof, etc. I told them I pulled the cash out that day so a statement would be impossible to provide, so I had to go to 5-6 different exchanges to convert $2 k-$3 k at each location. I am sure these transactions using my SSN is probably flagging some kind of warning with border patrol as most of the time they ask me to roll my windows down and check my trunk.
We ended up finding something we like within the budget and she agrees that she would pay me back in affordable installments if the relationship goes south. She seems happy and sending the photos and video to her family. She still hasn't got her passport for the trip to Paris so we goto the office and find out the enhanced passports are being rolled out and only available to be issued in Mexico City or La Paz. I find it odd that only 2 cities in Mexico offer this service. We booked a trip to Mexico City for end of November as they only had 2 dates available for the appointment.
Since we've been spending a lot on eating out, she wants to cook me every meal (breakfast, lunch, and dinner). She tells me more about her life and how her father used to be a police officer in Sinaloa and the family made decent money, but he left the career behind once the police were being executed, most likely by the cartel. He ended up with a disability and works doing security for some company earning $65 per week. Her mother works at a taco shop and didn't disclose how much she made, but she said she got the family their only car and wants to tile their home since it is mostly barren concrete. I wasn't sure if this was asking for help, but I just acknowledged the dilemma she has regarding family matters. She also has an aunt that hits her up for money to repair a car, but told her she can only help with so much since she isn't working anymore.
One of the week day nights, she invites me to meet her other cousins and religious aunt. I wasnt sure what the religious aunt would think of her dating a gringo that speaks nonexistent Spanish. We arrive at the house and meet her cousin and aunt. Everything is a handshake rather than the family hug. I sit and watch YouTube travel clips with her one cousin that speaks English. Everyone else in the house knows as much English as I do Spanish. They offer me food and drink and they end up playing cards until 2-3am. I was tired and the aunt seemed to like me and kept glancing over at me while I was chatting with a cousin and watching YouTube. At the end of the night, she invites me to come back when she makes some Pozole and tamales. Ive been told she makes the best tamales in Sinaloa, so expectations are high since it is a bold claim. The night ends and I get the same handshake, but this time get the family hug. I am not sure what to think of meeting more aunts, cousins, and possibly her family if they come to TJ.
Later in the week, we end up going to her apartment that she was sharing with other bar girls in Zona Norte and she ends up meeting the landlord. The landlord said she owes $5 k pesos since she used a pair of some shoes and left her luggage when she quit working. She told the landlord lady that I got her a car and she told the regular that I was just going to use her and then end up meeting other ladies. Also that if she continued to work she could buy multiple cars for herself. She told me that she assumed the lady would be happy for her, but she realized the landlady was just using her to keep making money for her. The bar girls pay $2 k pesos per week for room and board at the house and get free breakfast, lunch, laundry, and cleaning services while residing in the home.
I told her that the thought that always lingers in the back of my mind is that she is young and in the prime earning years of her life in the bar girl profession and I wouldn't be upset, but just disappointed if she returned. Also told her the guys from the club probably hit her up to ask when she is working, but she said she tells them she doesn't work anymore. The amazing thing is that the bros wish her well. The sad part is the aunt and landlady wanting to keep using her for the money. Once she stopped sending her aunt money for car repairs, regular communication stopped.
I told her I understand her circumstances with poor family and other monetary requirements being requested from various family members. She said she doesn't like the work and really wants the relationship to work. I am not sure if it is genuine or some sort of desperation or combination of both. She told me in a fucked up way that she would make more money working than being with me, but justifies her love for me as she is willing to stop working in order to make the relationship work. I asked what she wanted and she said she wants to make me happy. I told her it is her life to live and she should focus on herself or she would be resentful trying to please other people.
During the week she made me every meal and clean the apartment. She said she has been on her own since 17 and cooked all of her meals out of necessity since she didn't make a lot of money. The transition from not having to worry about money when she was working to a set amount per month has her trying to take care of her money. We go to Sorianas and Walmart and she complains that I buy too many things that aren't required and she seems annoyed that I don't like staying in the house. She assumes I have an anxiety disorder or don't want to stay in with her at the apartment. I probably do have some kind of disorder, but I hate being a homebody. I like going out and experiencing the world.
I had to leave today back to the USA To take care of things and will be back next week. She seems to love the stability, but doesn't like to ask for money or help either from me or her family, which kind of scares me at times as I told her if she wanted to go back to work, then no problem, but just let me know so I can go my own way. So far things have been going great and waiting for the negative things to pop up.
Well thanks for the update on things. Yeah Mexico has lots of guys at the airport to help with luggage especially single ladies. So it sounds like you really need to get over this her working at a bar if you want something more. She may have worked at a bar but it doesn't define who she is, just the same than you went to that same bar and would be with multiple women doesn't men you are a bad guy. You are getting to know the real her and from what you have said before she amazes you and I think you need to just imagine that you meet her at a office or something and had no idea what she did would you have such a hard time being with her. When I was with my ex the hardest thing was taking her to work before we got serious. I would never talk with her about work and when she left it was never mentioned. It was her past and mine as well and we moved on.
Not sure what part of GDL she lived in but it is pretty inexpensive. The girl I know stays in a nice area and told me sh pays 4000 pesos a month for a studio type place that she has to share a bathroom and kitchen with. You should take a little trip to GDL sometime with her just so she can show you around.
Congrats on the roommate thing and hope it works out. The money thing is total BS. Damn government. When I travel I usually just go to multiple places changing $500 at a time sm they don't bug me with all the questions. Last trip to GDL I didn't have time and just wanted to change $1000 and the girl had to ask me all the stupid questions and how I got the money etc.
I'm very confused on her paying you back if things go south as you seem to have a very negative mindset on what's going to happen. Also how can you get the money if she bails and you never see her again. I don't want to put more negative thoughts in your head but girls have been known to sell all the furniture in the apartment and leave. So that's why I advise to just spend or give what you can and don't break the bank to provide things. I imagine since they are a new type of passport is why you have to go to CDMX.
Good job with the family. Now just work on your Spanish. If her tamales are that good you might end up leaving your girl for the aunt. LOL.
The landlord sounds like she's seen many girls get used by American guys. Just like most guys say all bar girls are liars and only want money. I'm sure the landlord will soon have some other girl to rent to. Usually those type of places cater to the bar girls and they feel comfortable being with other girls and not having to live in a place where the others look down on them knowing what the do.
Well seems things are going well all in all. You didn't say much about her cooking to I would assume it wasn't anything special but it's just nice that she cares enough to make the effort. Try not to be so negative on everything and think that all the stories you here from others on this site will happen to you. I only suggest you work on the Spanish more and come t grips with her past and enjoy these 2 months and the New Years trip. Be the time you return from Paris you should have a good idea on what you want and if her feelings are real.
Good luck.
Big Magick
11-07-21, 02:18
They say the prettiest women in Mexico come from GDL. My family is from there. The Spanish blood has mixed well with the natives. From your reports this girl seems very genuine. Her mannerisms are typical of Mexican women which is good, she's acting like a normal girl not a bar girl. Like the thing you said about her just wanting to please you. From an American perspective that sounds weird to us because women in America aren't like that, we are a more selfish culture. Non western women are more feminine and devote themselves to their man. My father was a cop in Mexico too, he fled to the USA for similar reasons. He arrested the wrong guys and had a price on his head. Meeting the family and getting hugs is a very good sign. Also the landlord situation, people can have some serious hate / jealousy in their hearts. A guy like half your age doesn't need to tell you this but just keep your wits about you. Having like 15 k on you in Mexico is no joke, I have read on these forums people finding out who a person is just by the stories we post. I say this not to be a bummer but I genuinely hope your relationship works out, I mean if yours works out then maybe my future relationships with bar girls can too. Think of it like this, she knows she can make more being a BG but she chooses you over the cash. That's huge. Yes we can say she would rather just bang you then all the guys as a bar girl but still. She's making a choice and its you.
Bunter Hiden
11-07-21, 03:13
Concerning the six month visa thing. I'm on my third go around and I think it's a deal if you go to play in Tijuana often. Careful though. The last time I renewed the dude said he could not accept my global entry card. He said I had to have passport. After a bit of a stare off and the fact that I had $30 out he accepted my idea of using the info off the expired one. I doubt heavily that money ever makes it to the national treasury.
Member #4730
11-07-21, 04:05
Well thanks for the update on things. Yeah Mexico has lots of guys at the airport to help with luggage especially single ladies. So it sounds like you really need to get over this her working at a bar if you want something more. She may have worked at a bar but it doesn't define who she is, just the same than you went to that same bar and would be with multiple women doesn't men you are a bad guy. You are getting to know the real her and from what you have said before she amazes you and I think you need to just imagine that you meet her at a office or something and had no idea what she did would you have such a hard time being with her. When I was with my ex the hardest thing was taking her to work before we got serious. I would never talk with her about work and when she left it was never mentioned. It was her past and mine as well and we moved on.She mentioned taking me on tours of GDL since she has a friend that works for Volaris and can get discounts. I understand I need to get over my insecurities and my past as well as hers. It is just strange to me that she is so hot, passionate, and obsessed with me, but maybe my exwife was a different type of Mexican and grew up in a more privileged class as they had maids and she didn't go without. This girl was genuinely crying at the dinner table trying to explain to me she understands the worth of a dollar and appreciates the help I offer. She has been on her own since 17 and never asked her family for assistance as she knows they have their own debts and challenges. She doesn't want to burden anyone.
Every place we go she wants to hand out money to the less fortunate, but I told her you'll go broke doing that and some people need to find their own work instead of a handout. She said everyone in Mexico relies on tips. We went to the car wash and the guy that sprayed the car down got a tip along with the guy that dried the car off. I told her you only tip at the end. Also paying for parking everywhere is annoying in Mexico. I don't understand how these large malls have to nickel and dime you for parking. I got to experience getting license plates in Tijuana and apparently you have to pay everyone a "tip" to make the process more smooth. It took her 3 hours to get the placas and some people said they had been waiting over 6-8 hours. It is like the Wild West where everyone requires a tip to reduce the hassle of dealing with the more rigid process.
She did tell me that if we are serious than I should meet her family, but if not then I could at a later date. She doesn't want her family to meet someone that isn't serious. She seems to have an extensive family all over Mexico. I haven't experienced any negative things from her which is odd as I'm just waiting for the cold and heartless woman to reveal themselves. Who knows what will happen? She seems genuine and seems to have a normal relationship with her family and cousins.
Also any suggestions on must do in Mexico City would be appreciated. We will be in the city for 4 days and only 1 of them we have to make getting the passport a priority in Coyoacan.
Member #4730
11-07-21, 04:28
They say the prettiest women in Mexico come from GDL. My family is from there. The Spanish blood has mixed well with the natives. From your reports this girl seems very genuine. Her mannerisms are typical of Mexican women which is good, she's acting like a normal girl not a bar girl. Like the thing you said about her just wanting to please you. From an American perspective that sounds weird to us because women in America aren't like that, we are a more selfish culture. Non western women are more feminine and devote themselves to their man. My father was a cop in Mexico too, he fled to the USA for similar reasons. He arrested the wrong guys and had a price on his head. Meeting the family and getting hugs is a very good sign. Also the landlord situation, people can have some serious hate / jealousy in their hearts. A guy like half your age doesn't need to tell you this but just keep your wits about you. Having like 15 k on you in Mexico is no joke, I have read on these forums people finding out who a person is just by the stories we post. I say this not to be a bummer but I genuinely hope your relationship works out, I mean if yours works out then maybe my future relationships with bar girls can too. Think of it like this, she knows she can make more being a BG but she chooses you over the cash. That's huge. Yes we can say she would rather just bang you then all the guys as a bar girl but still. She's making a choice and its you.She is actually from Sinaloa and cares more about me saving money than I do. When we are out I want to eat out and she says she is going to make me something at home. The money was used for the car. I don't carry $15 k with me and at most $1 k and only in Vegas I'd have $10 k bundle for blackjack. The way she treats me like a king only reminds me of my time in Thailand where the bar girl drove me around town, fucked the shit out of me everyday, did my laundry, and cooked for me. It actually makes me cringe when she has to tell me it isn't about the money or she would still be working at the bar.
I noticed people are more friendly in Mexico than in the USA As everyone greets each other by saying buenos dias, tardes, or noches. The regular would try to give the greeting of the day to Americans at the various locations we've vacationed and they didn't return the greeting. I told her it is normal for some Americans to be stuck up and not acknowledge you. The only challenge we have is she has to transfer schools to Tijuana as the Sinaloa university is going to start in person classes next year. I told her if she can't transfer, then the relationship is most likely going to be over as I don't do distance well. I guess it will be the real test if she can walk away from 3 years of knowing the professors and classmates. She also mentioned that Tijuana university may be more challenging which made me laugh as education isn't supposed to be a cakewalk.
I guess Americans are a more selfish culture, but I tried to explain to her that she should focus on what makes her happy and not my happiness. The family thing is strong for her to make sure they are comfortable, but she tells me it isn’t my responsibility. I guess time will tell how it works out, but I rarely meet people that are so passionate and wants to please you. If you happen to find it, then hope it works out for you. It feels like a dream at times as she is so good to me.
maybe my exwife was a different type of Mexican and grew up in a more privileged class as they had maids and she didn't go without.Where I grew up, these people were called "cremosas," and when they got here they either got humbled or turbocharged into gigantic girls.
If your girl comes from humble roots, she's most likely going to be the exact opposite of what your ex-wife was like. Poor and lower-middle-class people from that part of Mexico are amazing, especially if they manage to stay humble. Enjoy the ride.
She mentioned taking me on tours of GDL since she has a friend that works for Volaris and can get discounts. I understand I need to get over my insecurities and my past as well as hers. It is just strange to me that she is so hot, passionate, and obsessed with me, but maybe my exwife was a different type of Mexican and grew up in a more privileged class as they had maids and she didn't go without. This girl was genuinely crying at the dinner table trying to explain to me she understands the worth of a dollar and appreciates the help I offer. She has been on her own since 17 and never asked her family for assistance as she knows they have their own debts and challenges. She doesn't want to burden anyone.
Every place we go she wants to hand out money to the less fortunate, but I told her you'll go broke doing that and some people need to find their own work instead of a handout. She said everyone in Mexico relies on tips. We went to the car wash and the guy that sprayed the car down got a tip along with the guy that dried the car off. I told her you only tip at the end. Also paying for parking everywhere is annoying in Mexico. I don't understand how these large malls have to nickel and dime you for parking. I got to experience getting license plates in Tijuana and apparently you have to pay everyone a "tip" to make the process more smooth. It took her 3 hours to get the placas and some people said they had been waiting over 6-8 hours. It is like the Wild West where everyone requires a tip to reduce the hassle of dealing with the more rigid process..Your ex sounds like the typical upper class in Mexico. It's definitely a class structure and the upper class treat the lower class like a and some of the ways I've seen how they treat people made me very angry. Especially the light skinned getting priority over darker skinned Mexicans. That's why a huge amount of bar girls like lighter skinned guys especially if you have colored eyes.
My ex wasn't they type to hand out money to everyone and often got upset with me for over tipping. When in GDL the girl, I would hang out with would definitely hand out money to people on the street. Don't be mad about the malls for the parking, I know it's different than the US abut they aren't trying to nickel and dime you it's a way to keep your vehicle from getting stolen. I mean they usually charge about 5 pesos for 3 hours. It's a good way to get rid of your change since I would usually just leave all my change in the car for thes little tips.
Well I've only been to CDMX once last year but it was mostly closed due to COVID. Some of the things I wasn't able to do was visit the castle, and visit the ruins. On the CDMX page I shirt time ago one guy mentioned he took a hot air balloon ride over the ruins that was just over $100. I remember you don't like heights so that may not be for you but a cool experience. For me mostly just did a lot of walking. Started in the Zocalo where the old famous church is and the government buildings. They have a couple of restaurants that you can at at that over look this area that are highly rated. From there you can walk over there the Bella's Artes building which is nice. If you continue to walk you run into a build that for a small fee take an elevator about 4 stories up the enjoy the view. I'm sure others have done more but with COVID closing things and only a few days I didn't do much.
I noticed people are more friendly in Mexico than in the USA As everyone greets each other by saying buenos dias, tardes, or noches. The regular would try to give the greeting of the day to Americans at the various locations we've vacationed and they didn't return the greeting. I told her it is normal for some Americans to be stuck up and not acknowledge you. The only challenge we have is she has to transfer schools to Tijuana as the Sinaloa university is going to start in person classes next year. I told her if she can't transfer, then the relationship is most likely going to be over as I don't do distance well. I guess it will be the real test if she can walk away from 3 years of knowing the professors and classmates. She also mentioned that Tijuana university may be more challenging which made me laugh as education isn't supposed to be a cakewalk.
I guess Americans are a more selfish culture, but I tried to explain to her that she should focus on what makes her happy and not my happiness. The family thing is strong for her to make sure they are comfortable, but she tells me it isnt my responsibility. I guess time will tell how it works out, but I rarely meet people that are so passionate and wants to please you. If you happen to find it, then hope it works out for you. It feels like a dream at times as she is so good to me.I have always loved that part of Mexico and going to out and seeing how the people acted towards one another is one thing I genuinely miss. I'm happy that you can see the difference so quickly and in smaller cities it's even better. It's how I imagine people are in small parts of the south and the so called southern hospitality.
So I'd imagine since she is so tight with family and her age that she has talked to you about having a kid, with your past and age I'm sure you have thought about this and my guess is that maybe you not wanting a child would be the downfall of your relationship. Just talking from experience.
Concerning the six month visa thing. I'm on my third go around and I think it's a deal if you go to play in Tijuana often. Careful though. The last time I renewed the dude said he could not accept my global entry card. He said I had to have passport. After a bit of a stare off and the fact that I had $30 out he accepted my idea of using the info off the expired one. I doubt heavily that money ever makes it to the national treasury.Its even better if one plans on living in Mexico. Living in Asia is a lot easier for an expat, except for the immigration part. Thailand and the Philippines have retirement visas, but both require a nest egg to be held in a local bank. Otherwise, you either need a work permit or do you have to do trips to immigration and / or border runs. The six-month, multi-entry visa that Mexico has is insanely convenient. I guess its a matter of making a living that will allow you to live in the Latin world that seems to keep Westerners away. Well that and its not as safe in regards to violent crime. But still, the Latin world looks like a great place to retire for a guy to retire. We can even own land.
About 3 years ago. I offered the posted rate (I think 50 or 60 pesos) from border to the club.
Though he reluctantly agreed at first all along the way the driver was moaning saying you don't have to pay me anything in a sarcastic tone, etc.
When we finally got there I think he grabbed by suitcase or in other ways tried to create a scene. I just paid him 100 pesos to avoid a scene.
So, now I only take the limo. Last time I even waited 10 minutes for the limo to return to the border rather than taking a taxi.
I wonder if anyone else has experienced attitude with a driver if you negotiated less than $5 taxi ride to / from border.
I recently read others offered 50 pesos so it seems that not all drivers are angry about that.
They say the prettiest women in Mexico come from GDL..I have asked many women I find attractive where they are from. Most of the time the answer is Puebla.
So, for my taste, it seems like Puebla has something special that makes the gals really beautiful.
Has anyone else noticed this?
Trouble in paradise: Americans say they've lost access to their Baja resort homes.
San Diego Union Tribune.
Cantamar residents, many of whom are USA Retirees, are caught up in a complicated land dispute.
Rosarito — The barbed wire fencing that surrounds most of Cantamar, a beachfront development located about 15 miles south of Rosarito, is barely noticeable against the towering palm trees lining the property and the percussion of nearby ocean waves.
Residents of the luxury beach-side community say they've had to climb over that steel fencing just to leave their homes in recent weeks because of an escalating dispute with the property manager. They say that in pursuit of new maintenance fees, she has blocked the exit, cut-off water and gas, and refused entry to guests, maintenance workers, and even some residents.
About 40 Baja California residents, many of them USA Citizens and California retirees, say they've completely lost access to their homes.
"I feel like a prisoner there," said Robert Boyd, a retired attorney from Arizona. "People have all their money invested in the place, and they're at their wits end. They'll be damned if they're going to lose their investments or their life savings."
If a retired attorney is screwed on his Mexican retirement house, just imagine how far up shxt creek you could be. . . Yeah, that's the ticket, put your retirement money into a foreign land deal! Hope you like eating Alpo or Kennel Rations!
Its even better if one plans on living in Mexico. Living in Asia is a lot easier for an expat, except for the immigration part. Thailand and the Philippines have retirement visas, but both require a nest egg to be held in a local bank. Otherwise, you either need a work permit or do you have to do trips to immigration and / or border runs. The six-month, multi-entry visa that Mexico has is insanely convenient. I guess its a matter of making a living that will allow you to live in the Latin world that seems to keep Westerners away. Well that and its not as safe in regards to violent crime. But still, the Latin world looks like a great place to retire for a guy to retire. We can even own land.
About 3 years ago. I offered the posted rate (I think 50 or 60 pesos) from border to the club.
Though he reluctantly agreed at first all along the way the driver was moaning saying you don't have to pay me anything in a sarcastic tone, etc.
When we finally got there I think he grabbed by suitcase or in other ways tried to create a scene. I just paid him 100 pesos to avoid a scene.
So, now I only take the limo. Last time I even waited 10 minutes for the limo to return to the border rather than taking a taxi.
I wonder if anyone else has experienced attitude with a driver if you negotiated less than $5 taxi ride to / from border.
I recently read others offered 50 pesos so it seems that not all drivers are angry about that.I had a taxi taking me to playas de Tijuana. When we got along the. Beach side, I was a mile from destination and he demanded more money or be dumped off in middle of nowhere. So I told him dump me here. Taxis are to be avoided unless desperate. For me, best way to HK is the 10 pesos bus that drops you off near revolution.
LuvMexicanas
11-08-21, 17:28
Trouble in paradise: Americans say they've lost access to their Baja resort homes.
San Diego Union Tribune.
Cantamar residents, many of whom are USA Retirees, are caught up in a complicated land dispute.
Rosarito The barbed wire fencing that surrounds most of Cantamar, a beachfront development located about 15 miles south of Rosarito, is barely noticeable against the towering palm trees lining the property and the percussion of nearby ocean waves.
Residents of the luxury beach-side community say they've had to climb over that steel fencing just to leave their homes in recent weeks because of an escalating dispute with the property manager. They say that in pursuit of new maintenance fees, she has blocked the exit, cut-off water and gas, and refused entry to guests, maintenance workers, and even some residents.
About 40 Baja California residents, many of them USA Citizens and California retirees, say they've completely lost access to their homes.
"I feel like a prisoner there," said Robert Boyd, a retired attorney from Arizona. "People have all their money invested in the place, and they're at their wits end. They'll be damned if they're going to lose their investments or their life savings.The obsession with ownership is fascinating to me. Simply rent. Problem solved. This is especially true if you get bored easily like I do. In no particular order but a year in each of the following: Puebla, Vallarta, Merida, GDL, CDMX, Oaxaca, Leon, Mazatlan, Tijuana and Pachuco is far more appealing to me than 10 years in the same place.
Trouble in paradise: Americans say they've lost access to their Baja resort homes.
San Diego Union Tribune.
Cantamar residents, many of whom are USA Retirees, are caught up in a complicated land dispute.
Rosarito The barbed wire fencing that surrounds most of Cantamar, a beachfront development located about 15 miles south of Rosarito, is barely noticeable against the towering palm trees lining the property and the percussion of nearby ocean waves.
Residents of the luxury beach-side community say they've had to climb over that steel fencing just to leave their homes in recent weeks because of an escalating dispute with the property manager. They say that in pursuit of new maintenance fees, she has blocked the exit, cut-off water and gas, and refused entry to guests, maintenance workers, and even some residents.
About 40 Baja California residents, many of them USA Citizens and California retirees, say they've completely lost access to their homes.
"I feel like a prisoner there," said Robert Boyd, a retired attorney from Arizona. "People have all their money invested in the place, and they're at their wits end. They'll be damned if they're going to lose their investments or their life savings.It's why you don't buy in Mexico unless you're a national and know exactly what you are doing.
MikeFromNW
11-08-21, 20:31
Headed to the for the first time. Beginning of December. Looking forward to it. Will be staying at HK Monday Tuesday getting the VIP pass. . then Wednesday Thursday will probably stay at tiquan. Walking in. And want to say thanks to everyone for the info on here. Wouldn't able to make this work if it wasn't for this forum. I will send a report after the trip. For sure.
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