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Jackie888
02-09-21, 18:32
Girls are asking $100 now. And $15 for the room. Add in a ficha and you are more than $120. I know you guys never pay that.Price gouging is what that is. I have not been up to the 7th floor, and barely came into HK to take a leak when they briefly opened since the pandemic started. A couple of my old favorites sent me messages to see them in the clubs to which I have declined. I am glad I stayed away from all the rip off venues.

Dcrist0527
02-09-21, 19:59
The pool is on the 2nd floor, up the stairs (so like 2 1/2 floor?) You have to buy a bucket of 10 lady drinks to take a girl to the pool, so that's $90 plus tip right there. It's a regular pool -- not a jacuzzi or tub -- in its own room with couches and chairs around it. You take the girl there and she splashes around in the pool with you until they bucket is empty. I don't think you are allowed in naked, so either you wear your underwear or bring some swim trunks with you I suppose. I've never done it, but saw the pool when I was there last time and have read a number of reports about it.

The $120 I was talking about is the girl's $100 asking price at Adelita and HK, plus the room for 30 minutes.Appreciate the info, KC. I'll have to look for it on my next visit. It doesn't sound like it'll be on my bucket list. I'm no germaphobe but damn, not sure about dipping into that vat of bodily fluids. Hahaha.

LuvMexicanas
02-09-21, 20:41
Price gouging is what that is. I have not been up to the 7th floor, and barely came into HK to take a leak when they briefly opened since the pandemic started. A couple of my old favorites sent me messages to see them in the clubs to which I have declined. I am glad I stayed away from all the rip off venues.Tropical is still good value. Granted, the girls are nowhere near HK across the board but as we all know, you only need one and my buddy did exactly that. I forget her name but she was snow white, thin and had a pretty face. I don't think she'll be difficult to find because my buddy is 6'2 and she was just a couple inches shorter so figure without heels she's 5'8 ish. Also, she's from Hermosillo which is not a common area for bar girls. In any event, with very little haggling she agreed to $70 and he got BBBJ included without even asking. I had a nice looking chica with perfect tits who was visiting from CDMX to make some money in Tijuana. I got my ficha's worth of her in my lap but didn't take her upstairs because I'd just busted a nut 30 minutes earlier with an escort (checkout the escort thread). I have her number so I'll hit her up my next trip to Tijuana if she's still around or perhaps during the summer if she's back in CDMX by then. Did not have to haggle with her at all, as she just offered me $70 straight out the gate. Her name is Valentina for those interested. Keep in mind $70 was on a busy weekend so who knows what price you might get during a slow weekday.

LuvMexicanas
02-09-21, 20:45
Appreciate the info, KC. I'll have to look for it on my next visit. It doesn't sound like it'll be on my bucket list. I'm no germaphobe but damn, not sure about dipping into that vat of bodily fluids. Hahaha.No joke man. The amount of pre-cum alone in there from dudes fucking around with chicas even before doing the deed sounds pretty gross. Plus, some dudes will make the decision why trek to the bathroom when I can just do what I did as a kid and pee in the public pool.

RikyMichaels7
02-10-21, 03:52
Tropical is still good value. Granted, the girls are nowhere near HK across the board but as we all know, you only need one and my buddy did exactly that. I forget her name but she was snow white, thin and had a pretty face. I don't think she'll be difficult to find because my buddy is 6'2 and she was just a couple inches shorter so figure without heels she's 5'8 ish. Also, she's from Hermosillo which is not a common area for bar girls. In any event, with very little haggling she agreed to $70 and he got BBBJ included without even asking. I had a nice looking chica with perfect tits who was visiting from CDMX to make some money in Tijuana. I got my ficha's worth of her in my lap but didn't take her upstairs because I'd just busted a nut 30 minutes earlier with an escort (checkout the escort thread). I have her number so I'll hit her up my next trip to Tijuana if she's still around or perhaps during the summer if she's back in CDMX by then. Did not have to haggle with her at all, as she just offered me $70 straight out the gate. Her name is Valentina for those interested. Keep in mind $70 was on a busy weekend so who knows what price you might get during a slow weekday.With Tropical, you often get the girls right off the bus from Sinaloa. So you can very often run into some non-hardened types which is good. But if you are planning on going to BT, be very careful of the waiters that will either short change or not bring your change back. Ask for Chato if that ever happens (the Manager). Also, as I have said before, because it happened to me, I would avoid ordering mixed drinks because they will often slip a rufee (Bill Cosby) drug in your drink and you will be out for the count for hours while you are robbed. The waiters will graciously carry you to the cab after robbing you of every dime except cab fare (no joke). Order beers only and make them open in front of you.

Babe Magnet
02-10-21, 16:14
With Tropical, you often get the girls right off the bus from Sinaloa. So you can very often run into some non-hardened types which is good. But if you are planning on going to BT, be very careful of the waiters that will either short change or not bring your change back. Ask for Chato if that ever happens (the Manager). Also, as I have said before, because it happened to me, I would avoid ordering mixed drinks because they will often slip a rufee (Bill Cosby) drug in your drink and you will be out for the count for hours while you are robbed. The waiters will graciously carry you to the cab after robbing you of every dime except cab fare (no joke). Order beers only and make them open in front of you.What he said, except order from the bar. Don't order from crooked Maseros. They will spike your beer as well. I had it happen to me at AB in September.

Babe Magnet
02-10-21, 16:23
Girls are asking $100 now. And $15 for the room. Add in a ficha and you are more than $120. I know you guys never pay that.No. We. Don't. $100 is obscene for 30 minutes with a robotic sex doll. Negotiate. Offer $60. If they turn it down go to the next one. It's not like there's a shortage. There are 5 times as many chicas as men. You guys stick together on this and they'll get the message. Or starve.

Babe Magnet
02-10-21, 16:28
Price gouging is what that is... I am glad I stayed away from all the rip off venues.It is obscene what's going on in Tijuana right now with both bars and chicas. They're using the "lockdown" as an excuse to jack prices through the roof. Don't pay it unless you want to turn Tijuana into another Cabo where you're paying $300 for a 30-minute session with a robotic sex doll.

To all the "millionaire tourists": it's great that you have money to burn and think Tijuana is God's gift to mankind. Just don't screw it up for the rest of the bros who live here or visit weekly.

BigButtDetecto
02-10-21, 19:37
I went to AB yesterday early afternoon;.

The Fat nasty slob bouncer who denied me the entrance for not drinking enough seems no longer there; I hope he is history.

People were sparse and it was great; 50%male / female. They created a large area with tables bar and bathrooms. There were several spinners and I could not make up my mind as who to go with. So I sat in a corner mindful of not getting the virus. Meseros were buzzing around desperate for business. So I left and came back 2 hours later.

I was full and I did not want to mingle again. I went directly to the bar for another drink and saw a spinner I did not see the 1st time. I offered 70 but she said 80 ; she was so appealing that I went for it. Room was $15.

The girl was from sinaloa and had a great face and body (but fake). Was cooperative and nice.

Had she said 100 I would have declined. But I don't regret the investment.

ScottHall
02-11-21, 01:05
It is obscene what's going on in Tijuana right now with both bars and chicas. They're using the "lockdown" as an excuse to jack prices through the roof. Don't pay it unless you want to turn Tijuana into another Cabo where you're paying $300 for a 30-minute session with a robotic sex doll.

To all the "millionaire tourists": it's great that you have money to burn and think Tijuana is God's gift to mankind. Just don't screw it up for the rest of the bros who live here or visit weekly.If you're going to the zona every week then you're part of the problem. If you want better prices and service then stay home and stop feeding the beast. The market is uncorrectable at this point. The fact that the clubs are still packed under the crappiest conditions ever just shows that HK and co have the mongers nuts in a stranglehold. There's plenty of other ways to get action in Tijuana.

Polyguy1
02-11-21, 02:48
I hear Sinaloa chicas are hot. If you you don't mind sharing how was she, how did she look? Able to grab her name. I haven't been to the zona for a while.

Soon I want make a trip to AB to try out.

LuvMexicanas
02-11-21, 04:16
If you're going to the zona every week then you're part of the problem. If you want better prices and service then stay home and stop feeding the beast. The market is uncorrectable at this point. The fact that the clubs are still packed under the crappiest conditions ever just shows that HK and co have the mongers nuts in a stranglehold. There's plenty of other ways to get action in Tijuana.Very true but perhaps underutilization of those other ways to get action isn't such a bad thing to keep those prices in check.

Dogers69
02-11-21, 04:54
If you're going to the zona every week then you're part of the problem. If you want better prices and service then stay home and stop feeding the beast. The market is uncorrectable at this point. The fact that the clubs are still packed under the crappiest conditions ever just shows that HK and co have the mongers nuts in a stranglehold. There's plenty of other ways to get action in Tijuana.I think covid is showing us how many men travel for sex, and as of now Mexico is the easiest place to go. I've been saying for 2 years that the woman could double their price, the $4 beers at HK could be $5, the ficha drinks,$15, the hotel $30 for 30 minutes, and 90% of the guys are going to still go. The reason I know this is very few guys who go to Tijuana are low income, worried about how much they spend. If HK was in Vegas, at double the prices, they would be in Vegas not Tijuana. I've only met two guys, who, like me, were in San Diego, and going to Tijuana with like $50 dollars, and HK free drink coupons, to bang 2 street girls and have two free beers and go back to San Diego. 99% of the time it's guys who make at least 75 k. That's what it seems like to me.

Babe Magnet
02-11-21, 18:00
If you're going to the zona every week then you're part of the problem. If you want better prices and service then stay home and stop feeding the beast. The market is uncorrectable at this point. The fact that the clubs are still packed under the crappiest conditions ever just shows that HK and co have the mongers nuts in a stranglehold. There's plenty of other ways to get action in Tijuana.I am in la zona usually 1-2 times per week. I spend very little money there. I don't buy "fichas", I don't go "arriba" and I drink very little. And yes, the bars (particularly maseros) hate my guts but I couldn't care less. But then, my reasons for being there are different from most on this forum. You are correct in saying that the bars have a stranglehold on mongers, which I don't get, personally. As you say, there's a ton of action outside the bars.

I disagree that the market is "uncorrectable". You can have a decent time in Tijuana without throwing wads of cash at the bar / chica cartels. Just don't go around with your tongue, dick and wallet hanging out is all I'm saying. If every monger who reads this forum would just agree to offer less, they'd have to come down on their rates. Again, you guys need to ask yourselves: do you want Tijuana to become another Cabo where you're paying $300 for 30 minutes with a robotic sex doll? Is that the dream, now?

In specific context to my comments, I was addressing the "millionaire sex tourists" who come to Tijuana with a hard-on and a suitcase full of dough and act like they've never seen a naked woman before. Don't spoil it for the bros who live here or live in SC and come here weekly.

Babe Magnet
02-11-21, 18:07
I've only met two guys, who, like me, were in San Diego, and going to Tijuana with like $50 dollars, and HK free drink coupons, to bang 2 street girls and have two free beers and go back to San Diego. 99% of the time it's guys who make at least 75 k. That's what it seems like to me.$75 K is pretty low income, at least in my neighborhood. Anybody making $75 K in SC certainly doesn't have disposable income for PFP. But you are correct, you don't have to spend much at all to have a decent time in la zona. You can have a fucking blast off $50.

Babe Magnet
02-11-21, 18:15
http://www.afntijuana.info/seguridad/114868_matan_a_mujer_dentro_de_bar_adelitas. I keep telling these chicas hiding in the bars that their beloved maseros are not going to protect them but they never listen. Trying to find out who it was and if I know her. If anyone has further details, please post.

Captain Solo
02-11-21, 19:45
9 PM Wednesday Adelita's girl died with slashed throat by Ohio guy. Allegedly he caught her with another guy in bed.

https://www.uniradioinforma.com/noticias/policiaca/625793/acuchillan-a-mujer-dentro-de-hotel-de-zona-centro-de-tijuana.html

Tijuana. - A woman was found with a neck injury inside a hotel in Tijuana's Downtown Zone on Wednesday night, authorities reported.

They detailed that after receiving the report, they effectively located a woman in her 30's lying on the ground with a neck wound caused by a knife.

They mentioned that the man named Kelley Logan Matthew from California, Ohio was arrested and that witnesses were assisted.

Pics from public sources.

Captain Solo
02-11-21, 19:54
I try to hold down inflation by offering the standard local rates, but succeed only about 70% of times. Guys should keep telling girls their low offers, eventually the girls will learn.

I heard a few hot bar girls are controlled by their pimps who set prices which the girls are not allowed to break, lest they get beaten. A few bar girls will stick to $100 sessions firm with no negotiation, regardless of your persuasion.

Street girls are more flexible, but a few show sign of being watched, cannot leave their posts or go to different hotels. Street girls will quote high prices to guys they don't want to fuck. Last Sunday found a bunch of new girls, like tall, skinny Julianna de Puebla, now work out of hotel Michoacan.

Ctytek
02-11-21, 23:12
I am in la zona usually 1-2 times per week. I spend very little money there. I don't buy "fichas", I don't go "arriba" and I drink very little. And yes, the bars (particularly maseros) hate my guts but I couldn't care less. But then, my reasons for being there are different from most on this forum. OK, I will bite. What then are you reasons for going to the Zona multiple times a week?

Personally, I find Zona pretty gross. I wouldn't step my foot there had it not been for drinking and arribas.

SubComm
02-11-21, 23:26
I try to hold down inflation by offering the standard local rates, but succeed only about 70% of times. Guys should keep telling girls their low offers, eventually the girls will learn.

I heard a few hot bar girls are controlled by their pimps who set prices which the girls are not allowed to break, lest they get beaten. A few bar girls will stick to $100 sessions firm with no negotiation, regardless of your persuasion.

Street girls are more flexible, but a few show sign of being watched, cannot leave their posts or go to different hotels. Street girls will quote high prices to guys they don't want to fuck. Last Sunday found a bunch of new girls, like tall, skinny Julianna de Puebla, now work out of hotel Michoacan.Agreed. Hold the line, mongers!

Dogers69
02-11-21, 23:37
She was 19 an article said. No way I ever met her my budget puts me in the 35 and over group. Few thoughts, 1-adelitas doesn't do the strict pat down that HK does. HK pat down is not a sham, the only thing they don't do that some concerts have done is grab my dick. . 2-is say it's more surprising that there isn't more problems in zona, as men, let's just use USA men, a certain % go into rage violent mode over woman. In every town, every day across America there's men doing violence over woman. Based on reading here, and listening to callers on Luke's you tube show, a lot these guys develop feelings. I can't even remember their names a day later, some on the street told me we had sex 5 months ago and were generally angry I didn't recognize them. When I would go to playboy club in past and have a hot girl making out with me in empty bar I always wondered if eventually another guy would walk in and go postal.

Captain Solo
02-12-21, 00:20
The pics show a girl lying on the floor outside Coahuila's room with a pool of blood from her throat.

She was wearing full clothing with high heels, so the attack came before they had sex.

Some of these guys are just way too stupid, more like animals than humans. He will be in Mexico's prison for the rest of his life, having daily honeymoons with beefy Mexican guys.

Fitted
02-12-21, 01:48
A chica was stabbed in the neck from behind on the steps inside leading to the speakeasy. Murderer was an American 26 year old military guy.

Mr Enternational
02-12-21, 02:59
I've only met two guys, who, like me, were in San Diego, and going to Tijuana with like $50 dollars, and HK free drink coupons, to bang 2 street girls and have two free beers and go back to San Diego.Sounds like you are running my routine, except I take $60 in pesos. Fuck a street chick. Get my hair cut. Hit the taco stand. Go to HK with my coupon and have 2 margaritas and use their toilet. Go fuck another street chick. Head back across the border and hop on the trolley.

Mr Enternational
02-12-21, 03:01
I try to hold down inflation by offering the standard local rates, And what are the standard local rates?

SpeedToys
02-12-21, 04:49
Agreed. Hold the line, mongers!"but succeed only about 70% of times. Guys should keep telling girls their low offers, eventually the girls will learn. ".

There is no line, CS loses on his offer, another wins on his. It's not so bad that she can't wait it seems. Even now.

SpeedToys
02-12-21, 04:53
99% of the time it's guys who make at least 75 k. Hello, Dogers. This 1996 calling. When 75 K was pussy available money.

Dogers69
02-12-21, 06:04
Holy crap the video of the girl getting stabbed is on Facebook and it's clear, and has audio or some girl watching after is screaming. This guy that killed her has killed people before hopefully just in combat. It looked like a action movie. She had her head in the phone, or looking at something, again, which is why I always say don't put your head in the phone on the street.

Babe Magnet
02-12-21, 06:44
Just an update on AB. I went by there late this afternoon. The bar and hotel are roped off with crime scene tape and the doors are plastered with "Asegurado" stickers. I asked a thick neck out front when they were going to reopen. He said he didn't know. I saw one of the managers near the door and he told me the same thing. I texted 2 or 3 chicas that work there today and they're not being told anything either. But, I have a feeling the money machine is not going to be shut down for long.

Having said that, the mood in la zona is subdued. Even at HK, the girls were pretty shabby looking tonight although there were more guys than usual for a Thursday night. Nothing worth taking home that I saw. So, if any of you guys are planning a trip this weekend it may or may not be the best time to come. Just sayin'.

Babe Magnet
02-12-21, 07:20
OK, I will bite. What then are you reasons for going to the Zona multiple times a week?

Personally, I find Zona pretty gross. I wouldn't step my foot there had it not been for drinking and arribas.Well, since you asked, for one thing I am living in my vacation rental on the beach since no one else seems to want to nowadays and there's not a helluva lot else to do for entertainment. For another, every non-mordida-paying-bar in Tijuana has been closed for the most part since spring.

I use the zona bars just like a regular bar: to pick up chicas. The hit rate is about the same as Las Pulgas or one of the other nightclubs. I get their number, ask them out, take them to dinner, drinks, moonlight on the beach, toda la noche, whatever. You'd be amazed how some of those robotic sex dolls come to life with a little wining and dining. Get them jacked up on booze and their favorite illegal substance and 1 in 5 can actually remember when they were a real Mexican woman and fuck all night long.

Personally, I find la zona pretty gross as well. I would not go "arriba" in one of those hotels with a borrowed dick. But when the other bars are closed, a man's got to do what a man's got to do. I don't use la zona bars as a sole source of "dates" but you must admit it's kinda nice to be able to vet them, feel them up and see them naked before you take them out. At least no surprises body-wise. After doing it for awhile, I actually prefer it over regular bars and it beats the shit out of a blind date from one of the online meat markets in most cases.

Babe Magnet
02-12-21, 08:11
In every town, every day across America there's men doing violence over woman.Just what we need: more news reports stoking the Telemundo / Univision / CNN International narrative that "American men are murders and rapists. " It is damn near impossible to pull any chica from Mexico City and south out of a bar in Tijuana. They're afraid of their shadows because that's what they see and hear and have been told.


Adelitas doesn't do the strict pat down that HK does. HK pat down is not a shamI expect that may change when AB opens back up. I noticed that tonight HK's frisker was much more aggressive than usual. Thought I was going to have to tell him to get a room.

The word on the street is the dude raped this poor girl at age 15, got her knocked up and has been pimping her since. You can take that with a grain of salt as "news" is seldom accurate in Mexico and we'll probably never know the entire story. But, if there's any truth to it, it's a damn shame Mexico does not have the death penalty.

Captain Solo
02-12-21, 08:40
The security video shows the guy in black T shirt walk to the stairs into the club. He stopped, talked to a girl on the stairs for 5 seconds, then turned around, grabbed the girl by her head from behind, slashed her throat, looks like he also stabbed her in her chest, then ran out. The girl was doing something at the counter with her back towards him. She did not know he was coming with his sneak attack. She fell down in a pool of blood.

Allegedly she was 18, working to feed her BF / padrote and a 3 YO son. I feel sad for the girls who have sell sex to live, now much sadder, even depressed, that some guy would murder this young girl so brutally in such a cowardly way. There are guys who have no respect for human life or dignity, and contribute nothing of values to society. When you see those indications, stay well away from them and report them to HSI for good measure. This guy will be tortured daily in Mexico's prison and won't live long.

Looked like he had no connection to this girl and just picked her at random. Anybody knows the motivation behind this murder? I hope guys who know her start a GOFUNDME or take up a collection to help her family and her son.

There will be back lashes against Gringos from bar girls, bar operators and the general Mexican public. Tijuana officials faked surprise that they just found out bars were operating in their hotels against state's closure order, like they did not know where to go to get their bribes. Under pressure from the state of BC and the public, they may have to close all speakeasies a while.

We should treat these unfortunate girls with fairness, care and generosity, as they are mostly abused and exploited by everyone around them.

BrotherMouzone
02-12-21, 09:38
A chica was stabbed in the neck from behind on the steps inside leading to the speakeasy. Murderer was an American 26 year old military guy.Yeah I'm in Tijuana now. Pretty much all the clubs in Zona Norte are closed due to what happened. Adelitas is taped off. HK 7th floor is still open to people staying at the hotel only. A girl I've known for years forwarded me the surveillance video of what happened. Very disturbing and hurt my heart. The girl was only 19. Dude was apparently a jealous US Marine from Cali.

The Cane
02-12-21, 16:44
Holy crap the video of the girl getting stabbed is on Facebook and it's clear, and has audio or some girl watching after is screaming. This guy that killed her has killed people before hopefully just in combat. It looked like a action movie. She had her head in the phone, or looking at something, again, which is why I always say don't put your head in the phone on the street.Just saw the video and it was clear as day, and up close and personal! There was another one from further away, but the one video was right on the crime scene. Gruesome! People screaming and hollering. Damn! Takes just one kook to end a life like that and ruin the scene for everyone. Man, man, man!

Babe Magnet
02-12-21, 21:40
There will be back lashes against Gringos from bar girls, bar operators and the general Mexican public. Tijuana officials faked surprise that they just found out bars were operating in their hotels against state's closure order, like they did not know where to go to get their bribes. Under pressure from the state of BC and the public, they may have to close all speakeasies a while.The governor of Baja is now in on the act. He issued a scathing rebuke to Tijuana officials for allowing the speakeasy bars to be open in the first place, as reported by several sources in the past 24 hours. He has ordered the State Attorney General to investigate why the bars are open. The bars will now have to pay morditas to the State as well as the City and probably Federal if they want to keep their speakeasy bars open. Going to get very expensive for them.

Babe Magnet
02-12-21, 21:41
Yeah I'm in Tijuana now. Pretty much all the clubs in Zona Norte are closed due to what happened. Adelitas is taped off. HK 7th floor is still open to people staying at the hotel only. A girl I've known for years forwarded me the surveillance video of what happened. Very disturbing and hurt my heart. The girl was only 19. Dude was apparently a jealous US Marine from Cali.I was at the HK speakeasy yesterday afternoon and again last night and I certainly don't stay at Cascadas. I went past security 3 times and there was no mention of any hotel-related requirement. Rizo and Chicago were operating normally, as far as I could tell. I did not walk across the street to Chicago but their "hawkers" were on the street corner as usual trying to herd people in that direction.

Captain Solo
02-12-21, 22:32
Cane,

Video shows he walked in with a knife already in his right hand. Apparently they just had a session and she was leaving her bag at the counter.

He walked in after her, turned and looked at her quickly, like he recognized her. He turned to the stairs and talked to a girl in a few seconds, then immediately turned to her, grabbed her head with his left arm and slit her throat with the knife in his right hand. As she turned and fell down, he stabbed her again in her back before running out. A fat mesero in a red t-shirt ran after him blowing a whistle. It was a dangerous job to detain a guy holding a knife who just murdered a girl, but somehow they managed to hold him until policia arrived.

By the looks of it, they just had a session and had some sort of dispute, causing the attack. After this murder bar girl are likely to raise their hazardous duty rates and cut short session time. Adelitas' security guys and the commercial cop out front were always sitting around picking on their hairy asses, bullshitting. Now they have to pay the price. HK is safer as everyone (except chicas) are frisked carefully by security, impossible to bring weapons into the club.

About 5-6 years ago, a pair of Marine sergeants from Camp Pendleton also slit the throat of a puta and killed her, IIRC, in hotel Hacienda de Santiago. Tijuana bars may just have to ban and girl stop dealing with guys with crew cuts and Marine looks.

Dogers69
02-13-21, 01:19
Facebook has endless list of videos on the attack, etc. Looks like a protest today outside Adelitas. Enough videos to keep someone busy all day. 20 murders a day in Tijuana and this will be "The" one everyone knows about. Biden probably has been made aware of it incase he's questioned on it.

BigButtDetecto
02-13-21, 01:51
Yeah I'm in Tijuana now. Pretty much all the clubs in Zona Norte are closed due to what happened. Adelitas is taped off. HK 7th floor is still open to people staying at the hotel only. A girl I've known for years forwarded me the surveillance video of what happened. Very disturbing and hurt my heart. The girl was only 19. Dude was apparently a jealous US Marine from Cali.I saw the killer's ID on telemundo. He is American. Not from California though from what I heard. But he has a scary face only rivaled buy the most ruthless drug cartel capo's in mexico. I hope the friends of the girl will cut him in thin slices.

Dickus Maximus
02-13-21, 02:28
Looked like he had no connection to this girl and just picked her at random. Anybody knows the motivation behind this murder? I hope guys who know her start a GOFUNDME or take up a collection to help her family and her son.
My sources tell me that she was talking with someone that was his "girlfriend". The girlfriend left and he grabbed the wrong one by mistake. She apparently realized that she was screwed and was screaming "Don't let me die!" They tried to stop the bleeding with a towel but without luck.

Three lives ruined. The poor innocent girl, her three year old, and this idiot. I hope Mexican justice is meted out to this pendejo. Of course, being stuck for life in a Mexican prison could be a fate worse than death.

BigButtDetecto
02-13-21, 02:38
My sources tell me that she was talking with someone that was his "girlfriend". The girlfriend left and he grabbed the wrong one by mistake. She apparently realized that she was screwed and was screaming "Don't let me die!" They tried to stop the bleeding with a towel but without luck.

Three lives ruined. The poor innocent girl, her three year old, and this idiot. I hope Mexican justice is meted out to this pendejo. Of course, being stuck for life in a Mexican prison could be a fate worse than death.I would be the first one to donate to help the family.

Hadez
02-13-21, 03:01
This really pisses me off. Not every experience is amazing in Tijuana but these girls always do their best to provide top notch service in my experience. They always seem happy to have a good smelling showered American willing to spend money on them. At first I wanted this guy to get the death penalty but I think a previous poster had it right. Life in the right Mexican prison may be worse.

Was considering going down tomorrow for first time Since Oct. Kind of worried girls may leave. Politics may spoil things.

Got a feeling the ladies will still welcome Americans with money tho every time I read about a bad thing happening it always seems to be at the hands of an American. These girls are heaven sent (or sexy devils if you want).

Artisttyp
02-13-21, 03:11
https://fox5sandiego.com/news/former-rutgers-basketball-player-arrested-in-murder-of-tijuana-prostitute/

AmorPorFavor
02-13-21, 17:22
That poor girl, only 19. Well I won't be going into any clubs in Tijuana that don't do a weapons check from now on. You could have drunken words with a maniac like this over some little thing and end up dead in a heartbeat.

Mr Enternational
02-13-21, 17:35
That poor girl, only 19. Well I won't be going into any clubs in Tijuana that don't do a weapons check from now on. You could have drunken words with a maniac like this over some little thing and end up dead in a heartbeat.People do not have to wait until you get into a club to kill you. People also do not have to be drunk to kill you.

BigButtDetecto
02-13-21, 18:16
This really pisses me off. Not every experience is amazing in Tijuana but these girls always do their best to provide top notch service in my experience. They always seem happy to have a good smelling showered American willing to spend money on them. At first I wanted this guy to get the death penalty but I think a previous poster had it right. Life in the right Mexican prison may be worse.

Was considering going down tomorrow for first time Since Oct. Kind of worried girls may leave. Politics may spoil things.

Got a feeling the ladies will still welcome Americans with money tho every time I read about a bad thing happening it always seems to be at the hands of an American. These girls are heaven sent (or sexy devils if you want).One of my regulars who works at Adelita says she is very scared. She told me that the murderer may get away with it pleading mental issues. Could it be true?

Mr Enternational
02-13-21, 19:15
One of my regulars who works at Adelita says she is very scared. She told me that the murderer may get away with it pleading mental issues. Could it be true?So after he gets away with it, she thinks he is coming back for her?

AmorPorFavor
02-13-21, 19:49
This article says they had a relationship and he was the father of her son and her pimp. https://talkbaja.com/american-accused-of-murdering-a-tijuana-prostitute-mother-of-his-3-year-old-son/.

BrotherMouzone
02-13-21, 19:52
I was at the HK speakeasy yesterday afternoon and again last night and I certainly don't stay at Cascadas. I went past security 3 times and there was no mention of any hotel-related requirement. Rizo and Chicago were operating normally, as far as I could tell. I did not walk across the street to Chicago but their "hawkers" were on the street corner as usual trying to herd people in that direction.So this was Thursday night. Yes, all of the speakeasies had been open earlier Thursday night but apparently at some point very late that night (perhaps past midnight) all the speakeasies closed. I personally checked Tropical, Chicago, and Gloria and was told the upstairs was closed by the person at the front door. When I went back to HK the person at the front door verified I was a hotel guest before letting me up the stairs. So this did happen late Thursday night for some reason (related to the murder at Adelitas the previous day I assume) though everything was back to normal early Friday.

Dickus Maximus
02-13-21, 20:02
This article says they had a relationship and he was the father of her son and her pimp. https://talkbaja.com/american-accused-of-murdering-a-tijuana-prostitute-mother-of-his-3-year-old-son/.Well that story is credible isn't it? The video is out there. Did you see any 3 yo walking around in the hallway?

Shit like this is why I hate the news.

Travv
02-13-21, 20:12
Punishment for murder in Mexico around 40 year sentence. I found a similar case from some years back:

"On May 26, 2019, Manuel Giorgio Ramido Waldwinos will be imprisoned in jail for the whole 19 years. He was sentenced to 43 years in prison for the murder of a person allegedly alive and healthy. Waldwinos was a musician at a Texas school in Mexico. On May 26, 2000, his son was a month old, he returned to the house to attend the domestic ceremony. At the same time, 8 police commandos blew in their house, knocked and dragged him into a car without license plates. He was arrested without warrants.

He was taken to the local police station (for interrogation), where his hands were hanged with metal chains. The police gave him electric shocks and accused him of killing a person, to whom he didn't know.

During the judicial proceedings, police officers alleged that he has killed Manuel Martinez Elizabeth. Waldwinos had once given some money to. . ."

Looks like the typical Mexican police proceeding as described in "Poso Del Mundo" by Ovid Demaris. Interrogation with cattle prods then about 40 year sentence in a Mexican state prison. . . Think this dude is going to be very sorry unless he has a regular monthly income in prison to buy food and protection from the prison gangs. . .


One of my regulars who works at Adelita says she is very scared. She told me that the murderer may get away with it pleading mental issues. Could it be true?

RickyVee
02-13-21, 20:35
Very sad news. The vast majority of our fellow patrons are very behaved. The mature ones know to keep things on a even playing field doing so with the understanding that we get to enjoy our adult Disneyland and act accordingly as to not jeopardize our paradise. Having said that we can only assume that a more sinister plot is what lies beneath. Business globally have been impacted and may never be the same for years to come. No disrespect or pun intended but the expression rings true "buy when there is blood in the streets". What transpired recently is what will be happing on Main Street over the course of the next several months. Big bank take little bank. If I were to guess somebody is in the process of consolidating their grip for vice in the zona. It's survival of the fittest. If anything is true throughout the history of politics and corruption, one only look to the Mexican Governent. Mexican corporations I. E. Tell Cell, PEMEx. Mexican cartels. Etc. Mexican culture does not like competitors. There is no way in hell that you would do something l so brazen as slitting a throat on camera knowing the consequence of a long time in a Mexican prison unless you knew upfront that you would be protected. Time will tell if this is an isolated outlier event.

AmorPorFavor
02-13-21, 20:52
Well that story is credible isn't it? The video is out there. Did you see any 3 yo walking around in the hallway?

Shit like this is why I hate the news.Its more credible than he killed her over a bad session.

Jackie888
02-13-21, 21:46
Considering that the clubs were "supposed to be closed due to the pandemic," I think that the Tijuana government will come down hard on the clubs, including the party floors of the hotels. Seems to me it was a crime of passion. She was about to leave the loser. He goes ape shit. Now he's going the big house in Mexico for killing a Mexican woman. He has little money to buy protection. Mexican prison guards have little interest in protecting a gringo for killing a Mexican woman. He is done.

Phordphan
02-13-21, 22:13
This article says they had a relationship and he was the father of her son and her pimp. https://talkbaja.com/american-accused-of-murdering-a-tijuana-prostitute-mother-of-his-3-year-old-son/.I've read the story in several Spanish-language sites. The narrative in Spanish seems to say that she had another guy, the baby's father, back home. He was the one who started trafficking her. I seriously doubt this guy, at 22, was able to go to Bumblefuck, MX, knock up a chica fresh from her quinceanera, and then start trafficking her. That's the job for some local dude.

Dogers69
02-13-21, 22:20
One time a guy in HK said he was going to cut my head off in few minutes. A sat there because I felt if I moved he was going to attack. I waited him out. Jumped into Adelitas told a gringo who said the guy told him the same thing. LOL. Maybe the most curious part that no media is mentioning is how a guy who the military denies ever employing killed someone so quickly and efficiently. They will be using that video in military training around the world. It can't be that easy for a 1st time kill can it?

BigButtDetecto
02-14-21, 00:28
So after he gets away with it, she thinks he is coming back for her?Instead of a knife it could have detonated a bomb and kill more people. Everybody should be scared and there could be copycats too.

Artisttyp
02-14-21, 00:39
I've read the story in several Spanish-language sites. The narrative in Spanish seems to say that she had another guy, the baby's father, back home. He was the one who started trafficking her. I seriously doubt this guy, at 22, was able to go to Bumblefuck, MX, knock up a chica fresh from her quinceanera, and then start trafficking her. That's the job for some local dude.The guy who killed her was apparently a PLM nothing more. Her husband is the pimp and father of her children.

A wake up call for the PLM'ers.

Mongers are TRICKS plain and simple.

AmorPorFavor
02-14-21, 01:23
The guy who killed her was apparently a PLM nothing more. Her husband is the pimp and father of her children.

A wake up call for the PLM'ers.

Mongers are TRICKS plain and simple.What's a PLM?

Artisttyp
02-14-21, 01:38
What's a PLM?Poor Loser Monger. Someone who falls in love with a prostitute thinking he is more than a paying trick.

TomJackin
02-14-21, 01:53
Poor Loser Monger. Someone who falls in love with a prostitute thinking he is more than a paying trick.But, but, but, my girl is different!

I thought the "P" stood for "Pathetic"?

Jinxx
02-14-21, 02:44
Now he's going the big house in Mexico for killing a Mexican woman. He has little money to buy protection. Mexican prison guards have little interest in protecting a gringo for killing a Mexican woman. He is done.I hope this is true and that you're right. I hope this idiot murderer gets life in prison and suffers every day. But I don't know how much faith I have in the Mexican criminal justice system that they will properly punish this guy. If this guy's family can put up 5 or 10 grand or more that might go a long way in getting him a good plea deal or a light prison sentence. And once he's in prison if he has money coming from friends family he'll live comfortably. And I don't really think many Mexican criminals really give a damn or are offended by some guy killing a prostitute, so I doubt his fellow inmates will attack him based on what he did. Honestly I'd prefer he get extradited and prosecuted in the US where I have more faith in the courts and prison system.

LuvMexicanas
02-14-21, 02:54
The guy who killed her was apparently a PLM nothing more. Her husband is the pimp and father of her children.

A wake up call for the PLM'ers.

Mongers are TRICKS plain and simple.Watch what you say because there are those on the Tijuana threads who don't think of themselves as tricks and even claim to have lots of game so you might hurt their tender little hearts by speaking such truth like mongers are tricks plain and simple.

SpeedToys
02-14-21, 03:11
Instead of a knife it could have detonated a bomb and kill more people. Everybody should be scared and there could be copycats too.Settle down Francis.

It COULD be a nuclear bomb. WHO KNOWS.

Babe Magnet
02-14-21, 15:54
That poor girl, only 19. Well I won't be going into any clubs in Tijuana that don't do a weapons check from now on. You could have drunken words with a maniac like this over some little thing and end up dead in a heartbeat.There is no possible way, short of body cavity searches, to determine if someone is carrying a weapon. If someone wants to get a gun or knife past the thick necks he will find a way. Even if they installed metal detectors, I can still get a non-metalic knife or gun or whatever past them. As someone else pointed out, there are weapons on the streets, in the hotels, etc, and someone definitely doesn't need to be drunk to kill you. There are many ways to get killed in Tijuana or any other major city. Anytime you come to la zona, you are putting yourself at risk for a number of things that can kill you--not just knives and guns. People who come here need to be aware of that risk and decide for themselves if it's worth it.

Having said that, if you stay reasonably sober, don't do stupid things, and you don't look helpless to defend yourself, there's a very small chance you're going to have any trouble in la zona. I've been in and about Tijuana for 20+ years (I live here) and I've never, not a single instance, had a reason to be afraid of anybody except crooked cops.

Dcrist0527
02-14-21, 17:54
Settle down Francis.

It COULD be a nuclear bomb. WHO KNOWS.Well said. The speculation on this board is getting a bit overblown. This is tragic and lessons to be learned for many. I don't recall the exact number but this murder number 236 in Tijuana. This year! It's salacious. It's gained all sorts of attention. And it's different because a gringo perpetrated it. But should this one murder cause panic? It's 1 of 236. And this M. O. Is extremely rare.

So with the exception of our dear friend Dodgers near beheading, SMH, I don't know that we should overreact.

BigButtDetecto
02-14-21, 23:08
I hope this is true and that you're right. I hope this idiot murderer gets life in prison and suffers every day. But I don't know how much faith I have in the Mexican criminal justice system that they will properly punish this guy. If this guy's family can put up 5 or 10 grand or more that might go a long way in getting him a good plea deal or a light prison sentence. And once he's in prison if he has money coming from friends family he'll live comfortably. And I don't really think many Mexican criminals really give a damn or are offended by some guy killing a prostitute, so I doubt his fellow inmates will attack him based on what he did. Honestly I'd prefer he get extradited and prosecuted in the US where I have more faith in the courts and prison system.US prisons are not much better than the Mexican ones.

Fryer45
02-18-21, 12:56
Be careful this weekend. Link: https://www.elimparcial.com/tijuana/tijuana/Coepris-verificara-centros-nocturnos-20210217-0034.html.

Fryer.

MemoeNasty
02-18-21, 23:42
I'm wondering if this is where Logan Kelley, the killer, will end up. It's La Mesa prison, located in Tijuana. After watching the video below, it doesn't seem like La Mesa prison is much fun. Hope he suffers. I think he just threw his life away.

https://youtu.be/jqi4ZpR2OWIHe'll spend a lot of time in Mexico because their judicial system is very slow. Eventually he will be extradited to the United States because Mexico will not want to take care of him for the rest of his natural life. As far as I know Mexico does not have a death penalty but murder does carry a life sentence. Once he is in the United States he will spend some time in prison but will eventually be let out. I expect this whole process to take 10-15 years. I read that he is 26 years old. I expect him to be out by the time he's 40-45. I don't know why this happened but the pics of this dead chica laying on the floor with towels covering her and blood everywhere is the sickest thing I've seen happen in the zona. It looks like something out of a horror movie. Many may disagree but I think the club should be punished harshly. They're operating illegally in a pandemic and should be held accountable for their employee. Hefty fines and maybe shut down for a period of time. Moe.

Ctytek
02-19-21, 00:40
Many may disagree but I think the club should be punished harshly. They're operating illegally in a pandemic and should be held accountable for their employee. Hefty fines and maybe shut down for a period of time. Moe.What does pandemic have to do with this murder? Plenty of crime happens in hotels and bars all over the world, before, during and after pandemic. By your logic, the entire city of Tijuana should be shut down, as dozens of people get murdered on the city streets daily.

I am not say this murder isn't tragic. It is. But let's not get silly here.

SpeedToys
02-19-21, 03:07
What does pandemic have to do with this murder?If they were closed, as they should have been, dude never would have visited, this would never have happened.

Ctytek
02-19-21, 03:25
If they were closed, as they should have been, dude never would have visited, this would never have happened.That's sort of an irrelevant correlation without causation. Dude could have been staying in the hotel. Hotels are officially permitted to be open. According to the reports. He also knew the chica prior. There are too many variables and "what ifs" here. Crime happens all over Tijuana for different reasons. To blame this tragic episode on speakeasies and pandemic is dumb.

Dickus Maximus
02-19-21, 07:35
If they were closed, as they should have been, dude never would have visited, this would never have happened.We should jail his parents because if they hadn't had sex, this never would have happened.

Sorry for the sarcasm. But really, there is only one person responsible for this depraved act.

SpeedToys
02-19-21, 19:13
We should jail his parents because if they hadn't had sex, this never would have happened.

Sorry for the sarcasm. But really, there is only one person responsible for this depraved act.Yes, and he came to party at a club (s) that should have been closed.

He didn't just *pop* exist there without a reason to want to be there.

SpeedToys
02-19-21, 19:16
That's sort of an irrelevant correlation without causation. Dude could have been staying in the hotel. Hotels are officially permitted to be open. According to the reports. He also knew the chica prior. There are too many variables and "what ifs" here. Crime happens all over Tijuana for different reasons. To blame this tragic episode on speakeasies and pandemic is dumb.I guess you won't ever know unless you ask why he went there at all.

But. He didn't hook up on the outside, he did so from a club he was at. And was why he was at the club hotel.

It's not a complicated set of events to chain together as -a- chain of events.

KetoAndKettle
02-19-21, 20:48
I think it's possible that the guard (s) at the Tijuana prison / jail will somehow look another way, while some prisoners have their way with him (not necessarily talking bubba type thing).

This heinous thing he did, is on camera, available to all after all. There's a 50/50 chance, I'm thinking, of him staying alive by the time he ever gets deported back to US if that happens.

Mr Enternational
02-19-21, 21:07
If they were closed, as they should have been, dude never would have visited, this would never have happened.So he could not have waited until they opened legally to do the same thing? This is why we should have professional jurors or minimum criteria for jurors. People get in there and start being led by their feelings and not the facts they are shown.

Ctytek
02-19-21, 21:29
I guess you won't ever know unless you ask why he went there at all.

But. He didn't hook up on the outside, he did so from a club he was at. And was why he was at the club hotel.

It's not a complicated set of events to chain together as -a- chain of events.You are completely missing the point and making nonsensical logical leaps.

Whether the murderer came out of a legally opened club, illegally opened club, a hotel, a cafe, a street, all those things are irrelevant. What is relevant is the fact that the dude who committed the crime, and he and no one else is guilty of the crime. To make a scapegoat of a venue which was last attended by the murderer (whether that venue happened to comply with regulations to be legally opened or not) makes no sense.

Elvis 2008
02-19-21, 21:38
We should jail his parents because if they hadn't had sex, this never would have happened.

Sorry for the sarcasm. But really, there is only one person responsible for this depraved act.Totally agree, DM. When you play the blame game, I think people have to be aware of the lawyer factor. They always blame the party with the most money or the money that can most easily be gotten to.

So the club has money and it is easy to get to. In the USA, the government has the most money but they own the judges who have often given them immunity so it is rare that governments are held responsible for anything. It takes an incident as big as the Texas blackouts to hold government responsible for anything. When you play the red-blue game, all the supposedly nonpartisan government bureaucrats are going to go free from blame.

I will say the one time I saw government held accountable was when there was a fire in Argentina that killed dozens. The club was not blamed. The people were furious with the fire inspector and demanded his resignation. I thought at the time, "No way that happens in the USA".

Yes, it is the shooter's fault. Still, the government is trying to pass the buck and blame the clubs and as you can see it did work with some members here.

The fact that the government is pointing the finger is bothersome to me, and while it is not their fault, it shows me that they feel guilt over this incident and wanted to take it out on the club.

Dickus Maximus
02-19-21, 21:51
But. He didn't hook up on the outside, he did so from a club he was at. And was why he was at the club hotel.By this logic we should close all the clubs permanently so this can never happen again.

We should probably outlaw marriage as well, because sometime during divorce people go crazy and kill their ex.

You're confusing location and timing with causation. The cause is simple. The dude was a jealous PLM. It could have happened anywhere at any time. It's purely coincidence that it happened where it did.

Phordphan
02-20-21, 00:30
So he could not have waited until they opened legally to do the same thing? This is why we should have professional jurors or minimum criteria for jurors. People get in there and start being led by their feelings and not the facts they are shown.Just to be pedantic, he won't face a jury. There is no right to a trial by jury in Mexico. No jurors, AFAIK no live testimony at all. Everything is submitted, in writing, to a judge. This will drag on for months, maybe a couple of years.

BigButtDetecto
02-20-21, 02:28
Here we go again with another misinformed individual on the "Big Lie" ticket. Biden is not going to defund the police. As a matter of fact, he is going to invest more in police. Do your homework and don't start spreading that Trump and Republican "Big Lie" BS with us.100% with you on this Riky.

Scbb1
02-21-21, 20:06
I think it's possible that the guard (s) at the Tijuana prison / jail will somehow look another way, while some prisoners have their way with him (not necessarily talking bubba type thing).

This heinous thing he did, is on camera, available to all after all. There's a 50/50 chance, I'm thinking, of him staying alive by the time he ever gets deported back to US if that happens.Where is this so called video? I can't seem to find it.

Captain Solo
02-22-21, 17:21
Was in La Zona Sunday afternoon.

Adelitas was open again. Touts on the street were trying to get us to go up, but I was still shocked by the pics of the young girl lying dead with her eyes wide open on a pool of her darkened blood in the hallway, so I did not go up.

It was very sad that a deranged guy brutally took her sweet life for petty reasons.

The Cane
02-22-21, 18:12
Where is this so called video? I can't seem to find it.I went back to the link where I saw it, and it had been taken down. A lot of sites probably did the same thing. It was grisly!

Dcrist0527
02-23-21, 07:50
I was there Saturday night. It was actually pretty difficult walking down that hall. After seeing the video so many times, it's just surreal.

It was oddly reassuring that the doorman did a fairly decent pat down. Understandable, for sure.


Was in La Zona Sunday afternoon.

Adelitas was open again. Touts on the street were trying to get us to go up, but I was still shocked by the pics of the young girl lying dead with her eyes wide open on a pool of her darkened blood in the hallway, so I did not go up.

It was very sad that a deranged guy brutally took her sweet life for petty reasons.

Pussycat123
02-23-21, 09:45
A post on the facebook page, "Rosarito Crime Watch", Feb 12th shows CCTV footage of the murder. Other posts on the same page give some background of her life. That she was a single mom and her BF sent her to work in the bar, etc. In any case, what a waste of a cute girl.

Captain Solo
02-23-21, 22:45
Dcrist,

A could not go in that hallway and have fun remembering a girl just had her throat slit and her chest stabbed by a guy, and died in a pool of blood.

Potentially any girl could be victim of brutal crimes by delusional and jealous losers who hang out in putas bars trying to prove they can get true love.

Perhaps putas bars should insist guys carry a certificate of physical and mental health for admission. A lot of pervs in this forum would flunk hehe.

Fitted
02-24-21, 00:05
I was there Saturday night. It was actually pretty difficult walking down that hall. After seeing the video so many times, it's just surreal.

It was oddly reassuring that the doorman did a fairly decent pat down. Understandable, for sure.How was the crowd? And vibe?

Ctytek
02-25-21, 00:09
How was the crowd? And vibe?The crowd was bloody amazing. And the vibe was really cutting edge. It's killing me to not be able to go back again this week.

DonkeyPuncha
02-25-21, 09:23
Please bare with my noob questions, but how often does a murder or violence like this happen in these Tijuana bars? Not just with girls, but just at all?

Babe Magnet
02-25-21, 15:42
Please bare with my noob questions, but how often does a murder or violence like this happen in these Tijuana bars? Not just with girls, but just at all?There have been a number of acts of violence (not necessarily murder) over the years. Last week, there was a shooting at Bada Bing in Rosarito. It was such a non-event they didn't even stop the music. The shooter escaped and the victim was treated on the property by the Red Cross. I don't even think the cops were called. The bars try to keep things as low profile as possible. Besides AB, in the past 5 years I can recall 3 shootings in Tropical (chica and manager wounded, shooter killed by police), 2 in HK and 3 in La Malquerida.

Jackie888
02-25-21, 18:57
There have been a number of acts of violence (not necessarily murder) over the years. Last week, there was a shooting at Bada Bing in Rosarito. It was such a non-event they didn't even stop the music. The shooter escaped and the victim was treated on the property by the Red Cross. I don't even think the cops were called. The bars try to keep things as low profile as possible. Besides AB, in the past 5 years I can recall 3 shootings in Tropical (chica and manager wounded, shooter killed by police), 2 in HK and 3 in La Malquerida.I also remember 1 hit in front of the Chicago club. Plus a hit on some cop a couple of blocks over. Plus some shootout 3 blocks south.

About 2 blocks North of HK is drug central and I remember Mexican Marines doing a bust on the street while 3 cops were hiding behind the pickup scared shitless.

Dogers69
02-25-21, 19:20
Please bare with my noob questions, but how often does a murder or violence like this happen in these Tijuana bars? Not just with girls, but just at all?If you read the news a lot, almost every strip club in USA has had a ton of shootings over the years. The most vicious I've read were in queens nyc. You could make a movie out of the shootings in that place. Most of the drama happens in the parking lot, just this year a San Diego padre get stabbed after issue in San Diego strip club. Even in Los Angeles in nicest neighborhood you can get shot walking your dog if someone wants your dogs or wants to ransom your dogs.

MemoeNasty
02-25-21, 23:39
Please bare with my noob questions, but how often does a murder or violence like this happen in these Tijuana bars? Not just with girls, but just at all?La Malquerida has definitely had some issues over the years, tropical a few incidents and about 10 years ago a masero at HK was shot dead in the alley just outside the bar. I guess earlier that evening he threw a drunk out for harassing the girls. He said he would return later and kill him. He did! As soon as he returned the masero ushered him out into the alley where the guy pulled out a gun and shot him. The HK was shut down for a period of time but I forget for how long. This is also when bars started to pat down patrons upon entering. Before this incident at HK I don't ever remember being touched up before entering a bar in the zona. It sucks that the actions of a few have to ruin it for the many. Most problems are contained and I've always felt safe in the zona. IMHO they do a good job. Moe.

RikyMichaels7
02-26-21, 03:44
La Malquerida has definitely had some issues over the years, tropical a few incidents and about 10 years ago a masero at HK was shot dead in the alley just outside the bar. I guess earlier that evening he threw a drunk out for harassing the girls. He said he would return later and kill him. He did! As soon as he returned the masero ushered him out into the alley where the guy pulled out a gun and shot him. The HK was shut down for a period of time but I forget for how long. This is also when bars started to pat down patrons upon entering. Before this incident at HK I don't ever remember being touched up before entering a bar in the zona. It sucks that the actions of a few have to ruin it for the many. Most problems are contained and I've always felt safe in the zona. IMHO they do a good job. Moe.There was an incident in Tropical a few years back where a guy came into the bar with a gun to shoot his girlfriend. He ended up getting shot and killed by the policia outside the bar as he ran. My ex girlfriend from Tropical (her name is Yamilet for all those of you who remember all of my trials and tribulations with her) was sitting in Tropical a few years back with another girl. A local came over, started chatting her up and told her to let him see her cell phone. Yamilet refused, at which point the guy punched her straight in the face and broke her nose. The waiters cornered him and the policia came and took him to jail. I met a girl in Tropical one night years ago and she told me she wanted to see me again outside of the bar. Apparently, her boyfriend caught wind of this, called me and told me that he would shoot and kill me if I ever was seen with her in Tropical. Dude was some big ass biker from Columbia. Needless to say, I stayed out of there for years.

BrotherMouzone
02-26-21, 10:40
Please bare with my noob questions, but how often does a murder or violence like this happen in these Tijuana bars? Not just with girls, but just at all?More often than people think I think. Was in Tijuana a couple weeks ago. Arrived the day after that one girl got killed by the former basketball player at Adelitas. A woman I've known for nearly 10 years that used to work at Adelitas for 15+ years (no longer works there due to the bar being closed and is uncomfortable with the speakeasy setup due to COVID) told me she personally knows of four incidents between just Adelitas and HK in the past year alone where a girl was murdered. According to her, at least one of those murders was at the hands of a military person from the USA That's what she told me. She would have no reason to lie or exaggerate about it. The clubs apparently go through some lengths to keep that stuff low-key and out of the news. Was surprised when she told me as I've been going down to Tijuana for about 10 years now and never even once heard about a girl getting killed in the clubs before a couple weeks ago. But it's apparently not uncommon. I will say in my years of experience going to Tijuana I've always felt safe and never had problems with anyone, Tijuana cops included.

Captain Solo
02-27-21, 09:52
Arrived in La Zona Thursday night. It was cold and windy. Not too many girls were working on the street. Went in and out La Zona's putas bars a couple times between hanging out drinking with the bros, flirting with girls, taking them to the hotels, going out to eat a few times.

Adelita had about 40 girls and 20 guys. A fairly hot girl was stripping on the center stage. Half a dozen lined up on the high stage by the wall. The rest were sitting around the bar eyeing guys like hawks hehe.

Went around looking at all girls but did not see anyone hot enough. Got a table near the stage and ordered beers, watched strippers on stage. Adelitas carries a lot fewer beer brands than HK. A few pairs of average-looking girls immediately came over asking for fichas. Had to give them $1 propina, squeezed their boobs and butts and declined. Meseros also brought over and pushed a few girls on us. My wingman thought Adelita was pushing girls and fichas way too aggressively. I had to decline them repeatedly, finally told the mesero "no mas chicas. " They all got the message and stopped.

But a mesero tried again, brought a tall girl to me. I declined, but when I looked up at her again, she was the blonde with short bangs. I gestured to invite her to sit down, told the mesero to bring her a drink. She ordered a strong liquor with red cherry taste. She looked pretty and classy in casual ways with her wavy short blonde bang, pretty face with braces in her mouth. Her face profile looks very similar to the blonde in the pic. Her frontal face looked like the young Jessica Lange, a bit older, like late 20's, with a gold piercing in her right nostril. Her body was tall, lanky, proportioned and beautiful with smooth light skin, long arms, long legs, large blue tat on her right hip. I was squeezing her boobs, natural A cup, tiny tits, starting to droop. She was smiling sweetly, gave me her phone number, said her name was Ellie, from Sonora. She avoided my kisses a few times. Her breath reeked with cigarette smoke and alcohol. I popped the hotel bed question. She wanted $100 firm. I offered 1,200 then 1,500 pesos but she did not bite. She drank her liquor quickly then got up to leave, went back to sit with a bunch of her girl friends near the banos. My wingman commented that her boobs were pointy and droopy. I was disappointed she looked a bit older than I thought and did not like her cold manner after I bargained with her, so did not pursue.

HK's spinner Arianna has switched and was working in Adelitas, pretty face with large eyes, snub nose, curly dark blonde hair. She looked like the prim Jewish princesses in my undergraduate years. An old guy was drinking at a table with his roll-away luggage. Arianna made her move on him but he declined. I came over to say Hi, gave her propinas, squeezed her boobs and her butt that felt very mushy. She insisted on $100 firm for a session, saying "it's worth it" as usual. I did not think her mushy assets were worth $100 session so I just passed.

Came back with another bro late at night, 11:30 PM. He had not gone to Tijuana for more than a year before the CoVid break out. Adelitas packed in a lot more people with more girls. A few strippers on stage looked better than average. A few guys brought their GFs to party, dancing to the music. Lighting and sound quality were decent. The high ceiling made the air easier to breathe. Adelitas looked and felt more like a party venue than HK's cramped hallway. The bro quickly spotted a hot young skinny girl sitting at the bar in a red dress and went after her, but she had to go up the stage for her strip routine. He waited for her, but she disappeared afterward. He invited another girl to the table, a little older but with a classic pretty Mexican face. They drank and struck their deal quickly and went to the hotel. I bought a drink for a hot girl. She also wanted $100 firm. I started to feel sleepy so just left her go back to sit at the bar in a row with the 2 dozen girls who did no business all night.

While drinking with the bro, I was texting the wingman in HK a few reminders to get ready to go home, but he did not respond for close to an hour. An hour after scheduled return time, he finally called with shaky voice, gave me a Cascada room number, pleaded with me to bring some money so he can pay a HK girl. I was incredulous that he was an hour late to go back and wanted me to walk back to Cascada to loan him money to pay a puta. I later found out his favorite HK GF unexpectedly showed up to work 3 days early, grabbed him for drinks then dragged him to the hotel. He paid for the room so he knew he was short of money to pay her, but he was counting on me to come running to the hotel to bail him out. When she found out he did not have money to pay, the GF quickly turned into a raving girl, screaming, shouting, called him names, held him hostage in the room, called hotel security and threatened to call in policias. He was badly shaken but I was getting sleepy and was afraid a late drive back may end in an accident. I was pretty mad at him for doing lots of stupid, irresponsible things, so I declined to go back to Cascada to bail him out.

It was a long story. He got out of the room badly shaken. We got home 2 hours late. I am still pissing mad at him.

Jackie888
02-27-21, 17:24
Arrived in La Zona Thursday night. It was cold and windy. Not too many girls were working on the street. Went in and out La Zona's putas bars a couple times between hanging out drinking with the bros, flirting with girls, taking them to the hotels, going out to eat a few times.

Adelita had about 40 girls and 20 guys. A fairly hot girl was stripping on the center stage. Half a dozen lined up on the high stage by the wall. The rest were sitting around the bar eyeing guys like hawks hehe.

Went around looking at all girls but did not see anyone hot enough. Got a table near the stage and ordered beers, watched strippers on stage. Adelitas carries a lot fewer beer brands than HK. A few pairs of average-looking girls immediately came over asking for fichas. Had to give them $1 propina, squeezed their boobs and butts and declined. Meseros also brought over and pushed a few girls on us. My wingman thought Adelita was pushing girls and fichas way too aggressively. I had to decline them repeatedly, finally told the mesero "no mas chicas. " They all got the message and stopped..Fucking puta cartel. They probably owe a oath to each other to maintain the $100 floor. Once the pandemic ends, I wonder if the cartel will fold or will we be stuck with this hyper-inflation. Your buddy is an insensitive bastard to short change his GF. You should have left him in Tijuana to teach him a lesson that may save his ass later in life. So much for GF relationships.

The Cane
02-27-21, 20:04
Jackie,

I am guessing the images of the Adelitas' girl dying in a pool of blood with her throat slit shocked a lot of girls. The putas now feel their jobs are dangerous and they deserve combat pay, so they all demand $100, no negotiation.I see the Hotel del Rey puta union in Costa Rica finally organized Tijuana too!

Scbb1
02-27-21, 22:29
Please bare with my noob questions, but how often does a murder or violence like this happen in these Tijuana bars? Not just with girls, but just at all?I was in the Hong Kong a year or 2 ago, I was in the back near the back door, I heard a couple of shots so I hid under a table with a Mexican Girl, she was shaking and after a few minutes of of calm I grabbed her to get her out of the bar. She said we should just stay there, I said no we got to get out while we can. It turned out to be a Mexican wife who went in the back to shoot her husband for being there, well she was the one that was shot in the leg after brandishing her weapon just outside the back door. She was taken to a pysichartric hospital after being treated.

Jackie888
02-28-21, 15:51
I was in the Hong Kong a year or 2 ago, I was in the back near the back door, I heard a couple of shots so I hid under a table with a Mexican Girl, she was shaking and after a few minutes of of calm I grabbed her to get her out of the bar. She said we should just stay there, I said no we got to get out while we can. It turned out to be a Mexican wife who went in the back to shoot her husband for being there, well she was the one that was shot in the leg after brandishing her weapon just outside the back door. She was taken to a pysichartric hospital after being treated.I think I would have suggested to her to have one last sex before we all die.

Dickus Maximus
02-28-21, 19:12
I was in the Hong Kong a year or 2 ago, I was in the back near the back door, I heard a couple of shots so I hid under a table with a Mexican Girl, she was shaking and after a few minutes of of calm I grabbed her to get her out of the bar. She said we should just stay there, I said no we got to get out while we can. It turned out to be a Mexican wife who went in the back to shoot her husband for being there, well she was the one that was shot in the leg after brandishing her weapon just outside the back door. She was taken to a pysichartric hospital after being treated.I remember that. I was there that day. I remember the waiters barricading the door and everyone suddenly running towards the other side of the bar. It was all over pretty quick though and everything went back to normal.

Psychman
02-28-21, 19:48
I see the Hotel del Rey puta union in Costa Rica finally organized Tijuana too!Except, one could negotiate a few hours for a cien--not 20 minutes! Massive difference.

Scbb1
02-28-21, 21:59
I think I would have suggested to her to have one last sex before we all die.She was really scared, she was shaking and was holding my hand very tight. I literally had to drag her to the front entrance. Good thing I was buzzed. They did open up again fairly quickly but they had crime scene tape up on the back street. I had no idea who the shooter was or what happened. I didn't find out until the next day what really happened and was relieved to find out it was a minor incident. However I did not go back to the Hong Kong that evening and waited until the next day to return. As long as I can remember I have never been afraid during a dangerous situation, it is always after it is over when I get scared. I could never understand why.

The Cane
02-28-21, 22:17
Except, one could negotiate a few hours for a cien--not 20 minutes! Massive difference.Cien would only get you 1 hour when I was going to the gulch way back when. Or, you could easily get toda de la noche (basically 3 fucks) for $300. The range I paid when I was in Tijuana (again a long time ago) was $60 to $80. And that was typically good for an hour with no rushing. Massive experience difference (I was never rushed to finish in 20 minutes in Tijuana).

Babe Magnet
03-01-21, 08:36
Fucking puta cartel. They probably owe a oath to each other to maintain the $100 floor. Once the pandemic ends, I wonder if the cartel will fold or will we be stuck with this hyper-inflation.Of course it will fold, Jackie. Just like the airlines stopped charging for baggage when the price of fuel tanked. Just like UPOS and FuckEx dropped their fuel surcharges with the price of fuel tanked. They'll continue to soak mongers for every penny they can get--if you guys let them. Or not. It's up to you. He who has the gold rules.

SpeedToys
03-02-21, 02:13
Of course it will fold, Jackie. Just like the airlines stopped charging for baggage when the price of fuel tanked. Just like UPOS and FuckEx dropped their fuel surcharges with the price of fuel tanked. They'll continue to soak mongers for every penny they can get--if you guys let them. Or not. It's up to you. He who has the gold rules.THEY have the gold. To be clear.

LuvMexicanas
03-02-21, 03:31
Of course it will fold, Jackie. Just like the airlines stopped charging for baggage when the price of fuel tanked. Just like UPOS and FuckEx dropped their fuel surcharges with the price of fuel tanked. They'll continue to soak mongers for every penny they can get--if you guys let them. Or not. It's up to you. He who has the gold rules.Never underestimate the backwardness of puta math: so many girls will actually raise prices to offset reduced volume and we all know you should do the exact opposite. Puta logic is impervious to market forces.

Dickus Maximus
03-03-21, 02:05
Never underestimate the backwardness of puta math: so many girls will actually raise prices to offset reduced volume and we all know you should do the exact opposite. Puta logic is impervious to market forces.You are presuming that demand rises as price falls in a manner that results in overall increased total sales. Not necessarily a good assumption. Selling on price is a loser's game.

Dave1027
03-03-21, 02:08
I am planning a trip to Tijuana in 3 weeks. I wanted to know if the Marriott was chica friendly? Also if the Hampton Inn is chic friendly?

Thanks in advance for any information.

MarksOfMagic
03-03-21, 02:40
Money talks.

LuvMexicanas
03-03-21, 04:41
You are presuming that demand rises as price falls in a manner that results in overall increased total sales. Not necessarily a good assumption. Selling on price is a loser's game.You're making the presumption because I'm talking about consumer choice, not overall demand. The pie is the pie. A chica can get a bigger slice of the total pool of monger cash or little or none of it. A chica who lowers her price to $70 and gets three guys a day is making over twice as much as the stubborn chica who won't take a nickel less than $100 and is lucky to get one paying customer a day. If you don't believe volume sales by undercutting the price of your competitors is effective, you must believe that companies like Amazon and Wal-mart are flukes.

Babe Magnet
03-03-21, 07:52
THEY have the gold. To be clear.No they don't. They have nothing but a pussy and a sales pitch. You have the gold. It's up to you to say NO.

Dickus Maximus
03-03-21, 18:46
You're making the presumption because I'm talking about consumer choice, not overall demand. The pie is the pie. A chica can get a bigger slice of the total pool of monger cash or little or none of it. A chica who lowers her price to $70 and gets three guys a day is making over twice as much as the stubborn chica who won't take a nickel less than $100 and is lucky to get one paying customer a day. If you don't believe volume sales by undercutting the price of your competitors is effective, you must believe that companies like Amazon and Wal-mart are flukes.Why not lower her price to $10 and get $1000 a day. Because there is no guarantee that lowering your price to $70 will get you 3 and lowering it to $10 won't get you 100 (or even $30) Frankly, I don't know what the best price point is. Probably the smartest thing to do would be to raise their price to $200 and give an experience people write on the boards about.

Why do you go to HK or Adelitas and not to the street girls. Even at $70 the HK girl is more expensive? Cutting price is just one strategy. Or you must believe that Apple is a fluke. I would rather be the Apple in the market than the Wal-Mart.

Captain Solo
03-03-21, 19:17
Damn. Babe Magnet is a funny guy!

Of course putas have nothing, just a pussy and a sales pitch. But it's the tight, wet pussies and the promise of hot, loving, passionate sessions that we want.

Babe Magnet is right. Just say NO to the high-priced pussies and the haughty attitudes to teach them good lessons.

Lots of HK girls, even the hottest ones, are not making any money in the club and are desperate. A few very nice girls started working on the streets as of last week. I would move around the club, give hot girls a $ propina, talk to them with my pigeon Spanish, squeeze their boobs, grope their crotches, tell them I only have 1,000 pesos and make them promise a "mucho bueno" session. A lot of them would biitch a little but would take that offer or make far more reasonable counter offer. If they don't I just move on to the next hot girls. Groping is cheap and talking is free in HK hehe.

If enough guys insist on $50-70 sessions, more girls will get the hint and lower their expectation.

LuvMexicanas
03-03-21, 23:51
Why not lower her price to $10 and get $1000 a day. Because there is no guarantee that lowering your price to $70 will get you 3 and lowering it to $10 won't get you 100 (or even $30) Frankly, I don't know what the best price point is. Probably the smartest thing to do would be to raise their price to $200 and give an experience people write on the boards about.

Why do you go to HK or Adelitas and not to the street girls. Even at $70 the HK girl is more expensive? Cutting price is just one strategy. Or you must believe that Apple is a fluke. I would rather be the Apple in the market than the Wal-Mart.Chicas are more akin to retail than silicon valley Apple. I never thought I would see the day chicas are compared to intellectual property.

SpeedToys
03-04-21, 03:04
No they don't. They have nothing but a pussy and a sales pitch. You have the gold. It's up to you to say NO.Ya. You're right.

We go to Tijuana for the water.

"They have nothing but a pussy".

Which was my point. Nobody here hides that truth.

ScatManDoo
03-04-21, 03:50
Chicas are more akin to retail than silicon valley Apple. I never thought I would see the day chicas are compared to intellectual property.Maybe from someone who understands neither?

BigButtDetecto
03-30-21, 02:05
I went to AB today Monday, midday, not many girls but some new chubby curvy spinners, BBW type; I picked one and I was very happy with her service. The old fat bald bouncer that denied me the entry for not drinking enough was not here; hopefully he is gone for good. The ratio male / female was around 1/2; I was pleasantly surprised. I doubt it will stay that way for long.

AmanteDeLatina
04-13-21, 22:30
I have not been to Tijuana in about ten years. I have heard it has significantly gotten worse in terms of safety since then. Has AB increased it's security due to this event?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/border-baja-california/story/2021-02-12/tijuana-killing-bar%3f_amp=true

This guy is an asshole and I hope he is in the worst jail in Mexico full of cockroaches and communicable diseases!

Captain Solo
04-13-21, 22:52
Adelita is way laid back in security. The guys would not even frisk anyone at the door.

OTOH Hong Kong and hotel Cascada have scanners at every door and security guys frisk people thoroughly.

Don't know how they frisk or pat down the mean, rude, ugly, angry lesbian butches who would sit at the strip stage, drooling with their tongues hanging out like horny dogs hehe.

Dogers69
04-14-21, 01:15
Damn. Babe Magnet is a funny guy!

Of course putas have nothing, just a pussy and a sales pitch. But it's the tight, wet pussies and the promise of hot, loving, passionate sessions that we want.

Babe Magnet is right. Just say NO to the high-priced pussies and the haughty attitudes to teach them good lessons.

Lots of HK girls, even the hottest ones, are not making any money in the club and are desperate. A few very nice girls started working on the streets as of last week. I would move around the club, give hot girls a $ propina, talk to them with my pigeon Spanish, squeeze their boobs, grope their crotches, tell them I only have 1,000 pesos and make them promise a "mucho bueno" session. A lot of them would biitch a little but would take that offer or make far more reasonable counter offer. If they don't I just move on to the next hot girls. Groping is cheap and talking is free in HK hehe.

If enough guys insist on $50-70 sessions, more girls will get the hint and lower their expectation.I'm poor, and cheap, and also aware of others circumstances. I can fully understand woman wanting 100 for 5 minute CBJ and CBJ, I just don't have the resources for it. For instance, right now I do uber eats. I refuse any order that's not a quick 20 dollars in 15 minutes. The result? I only get 3 orders a day instead of 20. I am very ok with that. I have my minimum standards. Tonight in Florida strip club there's so many men, I girl said she would only dance for 2 dances minimum. I gave her the Hong Kong 2 bucks and told her to keep moving. I'll be back in Tijuana in 50 days for more stories for everyone. There's no place in America like San Diego and HK. 2 best places in north America 1 mile from each other.

MemoeNasty
04-14-21, 03:52
I have not been to Tijuana in about ten years. I have heard it has significantly gotten worse in terms of safety since then. Has AB increased it's security due to this event?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/border-baja-california/story/2021-02-12/tijuana-killing-bar%3f_amp=true

This guy is an asshole and I hope he is in the worst jail in Mexico full of cockroaches and communicable diseases!Zona norte is no more dangerous now than it was 10 years ago. Don't believe everything you read on the internet. Don't take my word for it though but I'm sure everyone here would agree. Moe.

PokerLover11
04-14-21, 04:10
Zona norte is no more dangerous now than it was 10 years ago. Don't believe everything you read on the internet. Don't take my word for it though but I'm sure everyone here would agree. Moe.I did not believe and I was lucky enough to visit Tijuana every week from March 2020 thru Sept and then damn back to work, It was the greatest 6 months I felt like I had the place to myself BBFS with over 30 different girls and never got the Flu, call it what it is, it will be a sad day when they say it is gone, it cured every other disease and cause of death known to man.

SpeedToys
04-15-21, 01:55
I did not believe and I was lucky enough to visit Tijuana every week from March 2020 thru Sept and then damn back to work, It was the greatest 6 months I felt like I had the place to myself BBFS with over 30 different girls and never got the Flu, call it what it is, it will be a sad day when they say it is gone, it cured every other disease and cause of death known to man.Yay. Science via anonymous anecdotal evidence.

'Merica. Right here.

Explorer8939
04-15-21, 02:39
I went to AB today Monday, midday, not many girls but some new chubby curvy spinners, BBW type; I picked one and I was very happy with her service. The old fat bald bouncer that denied me the entry for not drinking enough was not here; hopefully he is gone for good. The ratio male / female was around 1/2; I was pleasantly surprised. I doubt it will stay that way for long.Yeah, I was there late Monday afternoon. Hooked up with Nina, a lanky dancer from Jalisco, mostly out of boredom. The place was very quiet, few muchachas and fewer customers.

RikyMichaels7
04-15-21, 02:45
I did not believe and I was lucky enough to visit Tijuana every week from March 2020 thru Sept and then damn back to work, It was the greatest 6 months I felt like I had the place to myself BBFS with over 30 different girls and never got the Flu, call it what it is, it will be a sad day when they say it is gone, it cured every other disease and cause of death known to man.Don't start spewing this hoax and conspiracy crap. Trump is gone and nobody wants to hear this. Especially somebody like me who lost one family member due to coronavirus.

KingOfPoverty
04-15-21, 04:23
Damn. Babe Magnet is a funny guy!

Of course putas have nothing, just a pussy and a sales pitch. But it's the tight, wet pussies and the promise of hot, loving, passionate sessions that we want.

Babe Magnet is right. Just say NO to the high-priced pussies and the haughty attitudes to teach them good lessons.

Lots of HK girls, even the hottest ones, are not making any money in the club and are desperate. A few very nice girls started working on the streets as of last week. I would move around the club, give hot girls a $ propina, talk to them with my pigeon Spanish, squeeze their boobs, grope their crotches, tell them I only have 1,000 pesos and make them promise a "mucho bueno" session. A lot of them would biitch a little but would take that offer or make far more reasonable counter offer. If they don't I just move on to the next hot girls. Groping is cheap and talking is free in HK hehe.

If enough guys insist on $50-70 sessions, more girls will get the hint and lower their expectation.I tried bargaining girls down late March when I last went, but all of them quoted $100 for me. To be fair, I'm a beginner at this so I caved and spent $100 per girl since it was my first trip. I dropped close to $2 k that weekend, which I don't regret but I would like to be a more refined monger and not inflate the market. Is the strategy to get lower quotes as simple as just not caving, I. E. Offer a certain price then walk away and try another girl? Also does the time of day / week influence the offered prices? I went during the weekdays in between 1 pm and 6 pm.

Jackie888
04-15-21, 15:09
I tried bargaining girls down late March when I last went, but all of them quoted $100 for me. To be fair, I'm a beginner at this so I caved and spent $100 per girl since it was my first trip. I dropped close to $2 k that weekend, which I don't regret but I would like to be a more refined monger and not inflate the market. Is the strategy to get lower quotes as simple as just not caving, I. E. Offer a certain price then walk away and try another girl? Also does the time of day / week influence the offered prices? I went during the weekdays in between 1 pm and 6 pm.First, many girls will ask you where you are from. If you are naive enough to say anything other than San Diego, you are going to get the tourist pricing. Even the guys selling candy will try to fuck you over. You have to act like you've been to HK a million times. And that this is like a daily stop for you.

Second, tell the chicas that you are waiting / looking for your favorite chica. This will give them notice that you are not a newbie. And that the chicas have an automatic competitor so they have to compete for your affection. This also tells them that you are a loyal guy, you got money, and you are willing to spend it only on a favorite.

Third, make the offer of $60. Since she is so fucking beautiful, you may give up your favorite for her. Make the final offer of $80 when she rejects $60. Then walk away if you cannot come to an agreement. No matter how hot she is, there are a million other chicas to take her place.

Lastly, don't let the waiters treat you like a *****. You are the boss. Make them bring all of your change back even if it is 25 cents. Count all of it in front of them. This puts them on notice that you are the fucking boss.

Captain Solo
04-15-21, 18:51
King of Poverty.

The girls have justifiable fear for their health and their lives during this CoVid pandemic and very few girls were working. The supply was low. On top of that graphic videos of the girl who got her throat slit in Feb were still fresh in their mind, so they all want combat pays hehe. I don't think you did too badly last month. Before Covid normal price in Adelita was $60, but now all girls were quoting $100. Tall, beautiful Ellie de Sonora with her short blonde bangs looking like the chick in this pic, were drinking with me in Adelitas one night. I squeezed her boobs and groped her crotch, proposed 1,000 pesos plus propina a couple times but she would not budge. She finished her drink then went back to sit with her friends. The hottest girls are popular, have big egos and their pride to maintain. They are less likely to discount.

The girls also know who are new in the bars and drive harder bargains with them. Putas bars are lively sex markets. The girls all expect to bargain. Local guys would negotiate prices and details of the services with the girls in the bar before going up. If you have been in Tijuana a few times, the girls are more likely to cave to a lower prices and better services. A wingman has been doing weekend dates with the hottest Adelita girls for 2,000 pesos or $100, multiple sessions a day all BB for 48 hours. But he speaks Spanish fluently and can romance the girls. He has a few of the hottest bar GFs in Adelitas and is trying to transfer a few to me.

Tanya in tropical was trying to drive a hard bargain with me. I told her I had only $60 and took my eyes off her, looking around the bar. She quickly cave. Never dealt with a girl who caved so quickly hehe.

I could never find any girl attractive enough, but I have done a lot of the hottest HK girls for 1,000 pesos. Last night HK had an unprecedented population of hot girls, like never before on Wednesday night. I met with a couple bros from out of town, drinking in front of the main stage all night. My wingman took a HK girl to hotel Rizo over Tropical for 1 hour of all out, hot BB sex for 1,500 pesos. Another wingman took one of his favorite girl for $70.

You just have to go around, smile sweetly, give them $1 propina in their boobs and compliment their beauty and assets. Girls love flatteries hehe. Show them you are loving and caring. Talk nice to the girls you like, ask them for deals and prepare to add incentives like propinas ect. To your best candidate. Keep your options open, Soon the girls all know you will not throw money around and will reduce their expectations. Be aware that a few hot girls have pimps and could not go below their pimps' set rates.

If you were in HK with us, I could point out girls who would discount, and could put in an endorsement for you with them. The girls who are flexible in negotiation usually give better sessions. Haughty girls in the bar usually turn into star fish or porcupines in bed hehe. Talk is free and grope cost $1 max. Tijuana bar girls are some of the prettiest, nicest, sweetest, honest, decent and fair. Most speak adequate English. Sure beats Asia IMHO. Walk around, have some fun, make some friends and you will have the hot companies you want. You should refine your people skills, practice them with bar girls, then apply the successful strategies to the rest of the world. Go with a wingman so you have the strength and reinforcement on location.

Jackie888
04-16-21, 14:48
Stopped by Adelitas Thursday late afternoon. They actually did a patdown at the door, and there was a cop (not private security) at the door. The kind meseros made a big welcome and led me to a booth where they can take turns molesting my wallet. I waived them off because I wasn't in the mood to contribute to their personal funds. The girl on stage was really. Fat. I cannot find a better word to describe the experience. So I wandered around the club to check out the experience.

There was one big girl. She was very large. Nice thick shoulders and beefy hands. She can work security. Remember how I ridiculed this club last year about its stupid low lighting? Ok. Maybe by criticisms were premature. After about 10 minutes, I had to leave. My dick was starting to involuntarily retract into my body. And so I wandered over to HK to recoup. Hey I gave Adelitas a shot. You win some. You lose some.

Babe Magnet
04-17-21, 00:30
I have not been to Tijuana in about ten years. I have heard it has significantly gotten worse in terms of safety since then. Has AB increased it's security due to this event?Not particularly, no. Same half-asleep cop in front. I could walk in there with an AK-47.

But, in "la zona", you are protected by the most powerful cartels on the planet. They will keep you alive and well so they can take your money. You have nothing to fear.

Babe Magnet
04-17-21, 00:35
I tried bargaining girls down late March when I last went, but all of them quoted $100 for me. To be fair, I'm a beginner at this so I caved and spent $100 per girl since it was my first trip.There's a little 2-letter word that means exactly the same in English and Spanish. It's called "No". It's a very powerful word. I use it constantly here. It works wonders.


Is the strategy to get lower quotes as simple as just not caving, I. E. Offer a certain price then walk away and try another girl?Pretty much. Yep. There's another bus every 15 minutes.


Also does the time of day / week influence the offered prices? I went during the weekdays in between 1 pm and 6 pm.There's nothing in AB worth $100 a night, much less $100 for 30 minutes.

Captain Solo
04-17-21, 16:31
Man,

Jackie is a real hard ass, but he has some very good negotiating skills.

Will use some of his stuffs in the next visit hehe.

Jackie888
04-17-21, 16:32
Here is a tip to bargaining. When a chica wants $100. Point to a hot girl on the other side of the room. Then say that she is your favorite. And she charges $60.

Then turn to your chica and say "$70 for you because you are more beautiful."

KingOfPoverty
04-17-21, 23:16
Thanks for the replies regarding bargaining. I'm going down Memorial day weekend to give it another go, be more firm with a price range that is 60-80. I will attest that some of the hot girls gave the starfish experience so I'll make sure to use the favorite line and offer some propina for good service. My ultimate goal will be to get a girl back to the hotel for multiple hours like you guys can do.

Captain Solo
04-18-21, 17:44
Spending 20 years, dealing with hundreds HK girls, only a few are nasty, angry beetches. Almost all are nice, sweet, gentle. Even if deeply offended, unlike the aggressive Nortenas, they are not likely to turn ugly and scream at guys or gouge their faces. They would just quietly walk away from the perps. With that you should not be too crude or too hard on them. Like all girls, putas or civies, they love flatteries, adored and sweet talked to like babies hehe.

One of the smooth ways to get what you want is to plead poverty. Mexican girls are controlled, oppressed, abused and exploited all their lives, so they tend empathize with nice, sweet, gentle but poor guys and would indulge them in good deals. Local guys would claim to have no job and not much money. "No tengo trabajo, tengo poco dinero. " Girls would smile sweetly at a poor, horny guy wishing a hot session with a fine kitty and grant their wishes.

Overpaying does not always produce hot sessions. On the contrary, pleading poverty usually produces some of the hottest, sweetest, most personal sessions just because the girls identify themselves with your difficulties.

BigButtDetecto
04-25-21, 17:16
The bald fat nasty bouncer is back at the entrance; he did not bother me this time but I'm sure he will if I come too often; It seems that he has a kind of manager position there as I saw him interviewing girls in the hotel lobby;.

Anyway there were no spinner yesterday during the day at AB; nobody to spend money with; HK had a much better showcase and the booths (privados) make it a cheaper option at HK.

Hadez
05-03-21, 19:23
Last Thursday got the first girl at Adelitas in a long time for me. Name is Valerie. She from South America. Curvy girl with tight body. Real looker. Her face may be too native indian for some but I am good with that. Tits are fake everything else is from working out. Fantastic body!

I saw her walk by me but before I could catch her another guy already got her a drink. He did not look like he was all in if you know what I mean so I waited and sure enough after one drink I was able to get her to my lap. She easily passed the drink interview and off to the room we go.

Not just a beauty but real good in bed. One of the best CBJ I have had. Would be easy to cum bbj but did not ask about bare services. Max effort in sex. Multiple positions. Pussy gripping me so much it was pulling condom. Always moaning with mouth open. Making eye contact. Totally into sex. Good PSE.

She speak a little English and is very interested in learning more.

Harbors
05-17-21, 15:28
A lesser asked question.

I know that when most bros hit Tijuana and the clubs it's for the escorts but can anyone recommend which spot is best for the strip club experience. If you all were to go with no intention of getting laid where would you go for the best show and dances?

Also, how do these clubs compare to the US clubs in terms of private dance prices?

LuvMexicanas
05-17-21, 17:14
The bald fat nasty bouncer is back at the entrance; he did not bother me this time but I'm sure he will if I come too often; It seems that he has a kind of manager position there as I saw him interviewing girls in the hotel lobby;.

Anyway there were no spinner yesterday during the day at AB; nobody to spend money with; HK had a much better showcase and the booths (privados) make it a cheaper option at HK.I've been in Adelitas more times than I can remember and never had an issue with that bouncer. I guess I must have been lucky and never caught him on a bad day.

Jackie888
05-17-21, 20:50
A lesser asked question.

I know that when most bros hit Tijuana and the clubs it's for the escorts but can anyone recommend which spot is best for the strip club experience. If you all were to go with no intention of getting laid where would you go for the best show and dances?

Also, how do these clubs compare to the US clubs in terms of private dance prices?Define Strip Club experience.

Captain Solo
05-27-21, 17:23
Went in Adelita last Sunday afternoon with a couple noobs, found no clients and only 4 girls sitting at the bar looking glum.

The meseros were trying to get us to stay, said Adelita would be expanding beyond the South stage. They probably took over Valentina and will open a new door in the alley. I hope they will bring in more hot girls with better entertainment to compete against HK and Chicago. It's unlikely the bar market will be expanding soon in this poor economic downturn. Adelita has to find novel ways to do business better to poach clients from HK.

KC Questor
05-27-21, 21:03
The meseros were trying to get us to stay, said Adelita would be expanding beyond the South stage. They probably took over Valentina and will open a new door in the alley.This was my understanding as well, considering the Valentina space was pretty much taken over by the "Club" they built for the speakeasy.

It doesn't seem like "more space" is going to help much unless they can attract enough women and customers to utilize it. I rarely see guys in the south area that they have already, so more space won't do anything.

Babe Magnet
06-01-21, 04:00
Went in Adelita last Sunday afternoon with a couple noobs, found no clients and only 4 girls sitting at the bar looking glum.

The meseros were trying to get us to stay, said Adelita would be expanding beyond the South stage. They probably took over Valentina and will open a new door in the alley. I hope they will bring in more hot girls with better entertainment to compete against HK and Chicago. It's unlikely the bar market will be expanding soon in this poor economic downturn. Adelita has to find novel ways to do business better to poach clients from HK.The guys go where the girls are; the girls go where the guys are. That's an cycle that's hard to break, especially considering the stranglehold the thugs who own and operate HK have on la zona.

Captain Solo
06-01-21, 18:36
HK can recruit hundreds of hot girls from all over Mexico to hang out all night in the club baiting guys. Ogling, flirting with those hot, young girls is why hundreds guys keep packing into HK every night. The bars really only need a few hot girls to dress up windows to draw guys in. The rest can be chubbies.

Perhaps you can bring in more bar competition in Tijuana by training the dumb managers at Adelita and Chicago how to attract hot, young girls from HK to move over and work for them. They may have to pay premium wages, good incentives and treat those prima donnas very nice to keep them.

Will buy you drinks if you can stage a coupe against HK's tyrants and bring us hotter girls, longer sessions, better services, more love, lower prices, more exciting parties.

Jackie888
06-01-21, 23:10
Went in Adelita last Sunday afternoon with a couple noobs, found no clients and only 4 girls sitting at the bar looking glum.

The meseros were trying to get us to stay, said Adelita would be expanding beyond the South stage. They probably took over Valentina and will open a new door in the alley. I hope they will bring in more hot girls with better entertainment to compete against HK and Chicago. It's unlikely the bar market will be expanding soon in this poor economic downturn. Adelita has to find novel ways to do business better to poach clients from HK.What Adelitas need to do is improve its hotel from the now dungeons, and staff them with people who know how to not knock early. Then offer a VIP discount card plus rides back and forth to the border. Run a full service operation instead of a wham bam thank you mam operation.

Sol12
06-02-21, 01:38
HK can recruit hundreds of hot girls from all over Mexico to hang out all night in the club baiting guys. Ogling, flirting with those hot, young girls is why hundreds guys keep packing into HK every night. The bars really only need a few hot girls to dress up windows to draw guys in. The rest can be chubbies.

Perhaps you can bring in more bar competition in Tijuana by training the dumb managers at Adelita and Chicago how to attract hot, young girls from HK to move over and work for them. They may have to pay premium wages, good incentives and treat those prima donnas very nice to keep them.

Will buy you drinks if you can stage a coupe against HK's tyrants and bring us hotter girls, longer sessions, better services, more love, lower prices, more exciting parties.Well the only way the bar can pay the chicas more is if they make more. They can raise ficha prices and try to be more classy. Or to have a cover charge, so for all the cheap asses that don't spend money drinking at least the bar can make money. I'm sure they are scared that they wouldn't get any patrons and are hesitant to do so. So they just think that to be better the have to expand. Which doesn't help to just have a big bar with ugly girls.

Sol12
06-02-21, 01:44
HK can recruit hundreds of hot girls from all over Mexico to hang out all night in the club baiting guys. Ogling, flirting with those hot, young girls is why hundreds guys keep packing into HK every night. The bars really only need a few hot girls to dress up windows to draw guys in. The rest can be chubbies.

Perhaps you can bring in more bar competition in Tijuana by training the dumb managers at Adelita and Chicago how to attract hot, young girls from HK to move over and work for them. They may have to pay premium wages, good incentives and treat those prima donnas very nice to keep them.

Will buy you drinks if you can stage a coupe against HK's tyrants and bring us hotter girls, longer sessions, better services, more love, lower prices, more exciting parties.All girls in Mexico knows about Tijuana and it's stigma. It's not the 90's or even early 2000's anymore. Smart girls can use Twitter, Instagram and Onlyfans to sell themselves. So not many want to waste time in a shit Tijuana bar. Especially with no money unless they go up, and not all want to. Look at how many girls just come to Tijuana for a short time and leave.

MemoeNasty
06-02-21, 03:31
What Adelitas need to do is improve its hotel from the now dungeons, and staff them with people who know how to not knock early. Then offer a VIP discount card plus rides back and forth to the border. Run a full service operation instead of a wham bam thank you mam operation.They been doing that knock shit for 20 fucking years! I hate them and HK for that shit. Moe.

Babe Magnet
06-03-21, 07:54
They been doing that knock shit for 20 fucking years! I hate them and HK for that shit. Moe.I actually spent a night in Hotel Coahuilla once because I pulled this bar girl who was afraid to leave la zona and apparently I wanted it enough to spend a night in that shithole. A masero knocked on the door about an hour after we got back and tried to sell me a bucket of something. I told him if he knocked on the door again, I would throw him over the balcony. Funny, I never heard another knock all night.

So, I dunno, maybe try that?

Babe Magnet
06-03-21, 07:56
HK can recruit hundreds of hot girls from all over Mexico to hang out all night in the club baiting guys. Ogling, flirting with those hot, young girls is why hundreds guys keep packing into HK every night. The bars really only need a few hot girls to dress up windows to draw guys in. The rest can be chubbies.The first thing AB needs to do if they want to compete, is get rid of that damn bat cave they call a bar. Their speakeasy was even a better bar environment. They need to start knocking out walls and spreading the money around. But, I'm not holding my breath on that one.

Captain Solo
06-04-21, 00:24
BabeMag,

Most guys go in bars primarily to meet hot girls, not to admire the lay out of the bars.

If the bars have hot girls and sell cheap drinks, they will come.

The first thing AB needs to do if they want to compete, is get rid of that damn bat cave they call a bar. Their speakeasy was even a better bar environment. They need to start knocking out walls and spreading the money around. But, I'm not holding my breath on that one.

LuvMexicanas
06-04-21, 00:41
BabeMag,

Most guys go in bars primarily to meet hot girls, not to admire the lay out of the bars.

If the bars have hot girls and sell cheap drinks, they will come.

The first thing AB needs to do if they want to compete, is get rid of that damn bat cave they call a bar. Their speakeasy was even a better bar environment. They need to start knocking out walls and spreading the money around. But, I'm not holding my breath on that one.Sorry but BM is right. Layout and spatial considerations matter.

Dcrist0527
06-05-21, 19:17
Sorry but BM is right. Layout and spatial considerations matter.Then explain HK. It was shoulder to shoulder last night. Hardly uncommon. Yet they never hurt for business. Why? The Captain is right. Guys will go where the chicas are.

LuvMexicanas
06-05-21, 19:40
Then explain HK. It was shoulder to shoulder last night. Hardly uncommon. Yet they never hurt for business. Why? The Captain is right. Guys will go where the chicas are.I don't have to because you didn't read my post closely. I didn't say layout and spatial considerations are all that matter. Adelitas is at a point where they need a full court press or rebrand. Of course hot chicas matter. I never said they don't.

LuvMexicanas
06-05-21, 19:53
The first thing AB needs to do if they want to compete, is get rid of that damn bat cave they call a bar. Their speakeasy was even a better bar environment. They need to start knocking out walls and spreading the money around. But, I'm not holding my breath on that one.Do you notice in BM's post that I replied to, he said "first thing" as in there are multiple issues Adelitas needs to do to compete. Do you not agree they need to update their interior which is still trapped in the 70's? Do that first, performance manage out the rude or underperforming doormen, meseros, bartenders etc, and upgrade chica talent. Sure, simply upgrading the chicas will increase traffic. No debate there, but doing the other things to create a party vibe and a respectful experience for their customers will increase business even more.

MarksOfMagic
06-05-21, 21:30
Then explain HK. It was shoulder to shoulder last night. Hardly uncommon. Yet they never hurt for business. Why? The Captain is right. Guys will go where the chicas are.To add to this topic, Dejavu- beautiful club, I mean its an awesome setup, lighting, seats, stage location. They give free popcorn too, $1/2 beers before 8 pm. And free lap dances after you pay the cover (at least their version of a lapdance) Chicago / Adelitas quality girls. And the occasional hk quality dime a dozen. Its off the main block of zona, walking distance from the border if you have some confidence in your ability to walk Tijuana. Definitely driveable, most bros park near deja / pueblo and take an uber to zona to avoid driving around nasty Tijuana cops. Very close to the global entry driving lane. It has a lot going for it.

BUT. Here comes the CONs and why its best used as a parking lot.

The club is dead, 5 to 10 girls. Sometimes 1 or 2 girls at 2 pm. If you step out, there's pueblo amigo or caliente, and a massage parlor within walking distance. They charge cover! The girls at deja are a hard $120 maybe you can push 100. But then an escort at pueblo would be a wiser option. The rooms at Dejas have no bathroom (toilet) , just a bed and sink. It has a shared bathroom down the hall. Hostel community style. This is also anther reason why zona clubs are better, cause they have hotel rooms above the club, and why HK sets the gold standard for strip clubs. The ladies and Cascadas rankkng a close 2nd.

BigButtDetecto
06-06-21, 02:28
Do you notice in BM's post that I replied to, he said "first thing" as in there are multiple issues Adelitas needs to do to compete. Do you not agree they need to update their interior which is still trapped in the 70's? Do that first, performance manage out the rude or underperforming doormen, meseros, bartenders etc, and upgrade chica talent. Sure, simply upgrading the chicas will increase traffic. No debate there, but doing the other things to create a party vibe and a respectful experience for their customers will increase business even more."Do that first, performance manage out the rude or underperforming doormen, meseros, bartenders etc". Exactly right.

Captain Solo
06-06-21, 08:56
MarksofMagic,

DejaVu is a good proof that a beautiful venue with ugly girls will have no clients.

LuvMexicanas
06-06-21, 18:59
MarksofMagic,

DejaVu is a good proof that a beautiful venue with ugly girls will have no clients.Nevermind that it's on an island nowhere near the zona and that you've glossed over all of his non chica-related points but okay.

Jackie888
06-06-21, 22:53
The problem is that Deja Vu is competing with the entire Zona Norte amusement park that includes HK, Adelitas, Chicago, alley girls, restaurants, cafes, and a bunch of other smaller bars. It's just too fucking inconvenient to go to Deja Vu and be stuck out there on an island.

Jackie888
06-06-21, 23:04
Stopped by Saturday night. Surprisingly it was real slow for a weekend.

Sol12
06-07-21, 01:02
MarksofMagic,

DejaVu is a good proof that a beautiful venue with ugly girls will have no clients.So having never been if it's a nice upscale place inside what they could try is to make it a place for more upscale visitors not your young kids or cheap ass classless people. Have a dress code, cover charge and bottles of Moët for the girls that you can buy. HK Tries to sell this VIP baller stuff but it's not. They have a terrible liquor selection and plastic seats. I just don't think you can beat HK at their own game. Try something different and see what happens. Myself and many others will not go to HK on a weekend night with the wall to wall sausage fest. So if you can have a more relaxed atmosphere with less crowds that would appeal to many. As far as not being in the Zona I think is a positive. It's closer to the border and you don't have all the drug addicts walking around bugging you.

I know many will laugh this off but what do they have to lose.

Dogers69
06-07-21, 02:08
I actually like Adelitas bar layout. I sit on the bar in the back the woman come up to me. In HK of course if they come up to you its for "1 dollar baby 1 dollar" or "sexo now baby". The girls in Adelita may even be sitting next to you for free on bar stool. My fav Adelitas experience was a working girl I didn't give any money to because after 20 minutes she went home before I could pay her. I actually thought she was not a working girl till she left and I asked her friend. When Adelitas opened and even before covid the staff meseros and bartender were becoming pain in the ass. For instance I used to chill with no beer for 10 tob15 minutes till they asked me. Now? Immediately and if you finish 1st one, you have to leave or buy another 1. Sorry the experience is not good enough to keep buying a beer if I'm I don't have a girl. I already go to 4 bars in 2 hours how many beers can I handle?

MemoeNasty
06-07-21, 03:52
The problem is that Deja Vu is competing with the entire Zona Norte amusement park that includes HK, Adelitas, Chicago, alley girls, restaurants, cafes, and a bunch of other smaller bars. It's just too fucking inconvenient to go to Deja Vu and be stuck out there on an island.Anything outside of zona norte is a waste of time. Places like deja vu, amnesia etc are great to check out once in a while but not really. Places outside of ZN are more expensive, more out of the way and definitely not as good. Quite frankly I never understood how any adult entertainment business outside ZN stays in business. Maybe I'm missing something but probably not. Moe.

Captain Solo
06-07-21, 22:52
Sol,

Deja Vu is a very nice venue with an excellent location near the Ped East border entry point. They also use the same name Deja Vu to link it top strip clubs in Loa Angeles areas.

I saw groups of young guys walk to Deja Vu but would not walk to La Zona due to fear of crimes, but they did not stay long to party and spend money because there were only a few girls and they were all ugly. If they want to party with old, ugly, obese women they can do it for free in the US hehe.

If Deja vu has beautiful girls, properly coached how to treat clients like VIPs, they may be able turn it into a high-class joint, with cover charges, expensive liquors, high-priced girls ect, but the tiny fuck rooms without showers are just low-class shit for quick turn over blue-collar fucks. Would be difficult to entice lots of wealthy guys to party and pay high prices.

HK was just a small sleazy bar before. The only reason why it rakes in a lot of money now is due to lots of new hot young girls brought in after the remodel, while Adelitas, Chicago, Tropical have very little going on and continue to decline further due to lack of talents.

Babe Magnet
06-08-21, 01:43
BabeMag,

Most guys go in bars primarily to meet hot girls, not to admire the lay out of the bars.

If the bars have hot girls and sell cheap drinks, they will come.You also have to attract girls, Captain. And girls don't like working in bat caves. I've heard more complaints from girls in AB than any other bar about the working environment. And personally, I fell like some kinda pervert just walking into that dark, dingy bat cave they have over there. So, facilities are needed to attract both girls and guys. HK has got it; that's where they're going. People are like sheep. Monkey see, monkey do. They go where everybody else goes.

As far as Deja Vu goes, their only problem is location, location, location. I'll bet you 10 skeleton, er, spinners: if you leveled that half-block between the church and Constitucion and moved the Deja Vu bar there, in a year it would be a bigger draw than HK. Assuming, of course, that the mob that owns HK didn't have them all assassinated.

Dickus Maximus
06-08-21, 06:10
Anything outside of zona norte is a waste of time. Places like deja vu, amnesia etc are great to check out once in a while but not really. Places outside of ZN are more expensive, more out of the way and definitely not as good. Quite frankly I never understood how any adult entertainment business outside ZN stays in business. Maybe I'm missing something but probably not. Moe.Try 7 de Copas or La Cuevo del Peludo. They are well out of the center, but decent selection and much more relaxed.

Jinxx
06-08-21, 11:54
Try 7 de Copas or La Cuevo del Peludo. They are well out of the center, but decent selection and much more relaxed.I'm glad you brought up 7 de Copas. I got a wingman coming into town in a couple days and we're probably going to try out some different spots. I might take him out to Rocamar and Marabu which are way out on the east side of Tijuana, but I've always been intrigued about 7 de Copas and always wanted to check it out. I've never been to cueva del peludo either so we might hit that spot too. There's another bar right next to Cueva del Peludo called El Sinaloense, does anyone here know what's up with that place?

Jackie888
06-08-21, 15:46
I actually like Adelitas bar layout. I sit on the bar in the back the woman come up to me. In HK of course if they come up to you its for "1 dollar baby 1 dollar" or "sexo now baby". The girls in Adelita may even be sitting next to you for free on bar stool. My fav Adelitas experience was a working girl I didn't give any money to because after 20 minutes she went home before I could pay her. I actually thought she was not a working girl till she left and I asked her friend. When Adelitas opened and even before covid the staff meseros and bartender were becoming pain in the ass. For instance I used to chill with no beer for 10 tob15 minutes till they asked me. Now? Immediately and if you finish 1st one, you have to leave or buy another 1. Sorry the experience is not good enough to keep buying a beer if I'm I don't have a girl. I already go to 4 bars in 2 hours how many beers can I handle?Buy a bottled water. Put it in front of you. No one will fuck with you.

LuvMexicanas
06-08-21, 16:16
Try 7 de Copas or La Cuevo del Peludo. They are well out of the center, but decent selection and much more relaxed.Can you share some insight on 7 De Copas? Is it a straight up puta bar or a club that working girls frequent?

Jackie888
06-08-21, 22:16
Can you share some insight on 7 De Copas? Is it a straight up puta bar or a club that working girls frequent?I heard from the Limo guys that the same family members that own the HK / Tropical / Chubelas also owns 7 De Copas. I google mapped it and 7 De Copas don't look like it 's in a bad neighborhood. But La Cuevo is in a poorer side, but busier side of town. They both got their own website. 7 De Copas looks huge. Doesn't even look like a Puta bar. Looks like a dance club with live bands.

Dickus Maximus
06-09-21, 01:46
I heard from the Limo guys that the same family members that own the HK / Tropical / Chubelas also owns 7 De Copas. I google mapped it and 7 De Copas don't look like it 's in a bad neighborhood. But La Cuevo is in a poorer side, but busier side of town. They both got their own website. 7 De Copas looks huge. Doesn't even look like a Puta bar. Looks like a dance club with live bands.If you look around inside HK you'll see cubetas that say HK and others that say 7 C. Go to the 7 de Copas website and you see they have a hotel on premises. It's kind of obvious its the same concept as HK.

Baxter Slade
06-09-21, 02:12
Can you share some insight on 7 De Copas? Is it a straight up puta bar or a club that working girls frequent?Both are owned by HK conglomerate. Last time I was at Cuevo it was a weekday afternoon. The place was dead maybe 4 bg's sitting on there ass. I have been there when it has been much better. For sure a locals place so be prepared to be the only gringo.

Last time I was in Siete the main bar was closed. There speakeasy was sit up in what appeared to be a 2nd floor conference room that was packed with locals and a decent selection of women.

Both are out on aqua Caliente maybe a 20 to 25 minute drive from centro. Cuevo will be before you get to the 5 why 10 and Siete will be about 10 minutes past the 5 why 10.

Sol12
06-10-21, 22:44
Sol,

Deja Vu is a very nice venue with an excellent location near the Ped East border entry point. They also use the same name Deja Vu to link it top strip clubs in Loa Angeles areas.

I saw groups of young guys walk to Deja Vu but would not walk to La Zona due to fear of crimes, but they did not stay long to party and spend money because there were only a few girls and they were all ugly. If they want to party with old, ugly, obese women they can do it for free in the US hehe.

If Deja vu has beautiful girls, properly coached how to treat clients like VIPs, they may be able turn it into a high-class joint, with cover charges, expensive liquors, high-priced girls ect, but the tiny fuck rooms without showers are just low-class shit for quick turn over blue-collar fucks. Would be difficult to entice lots of wealthy guys to party and pay high prices.

HK was just a small sleazy bar before. The only reason why it rakes in a lot of money now is due to lots of new hot young girls brought in after the remodel, while Adelitas, Chicago, Tropical have very little going on and continue to decline further due to lack of talents.Yeah Cap like I said I know Deja Vu location just haven't gone inside. In the late 90's I went there when it was just a club with a girl from AB that I took out for TLN. In that mall over there was also the old Bolero strip club that would do pretty good business until it closed in the 2000's with most of the other strip clubs post 9/11.

With the rise of HK from the dark sleezy hole in the wall it was in the beginning was due to girls but when they expanded the first time was just step one. At that time you still had CC with a better party atmosphere with the dance floor they use to have and guys enjoying drinking and dancing with the girls besides just going upstairs. Then you had AB and how packed it would get with guys just going in and walking out with a girl to bang and they had a dance floor as well. It was just to small and couldn't handle so many guys. Remember how many guys would just stand outside the club entrance just to watch the girls going upstairs with the clients? So HK had more space and instead of a dance floor they just had strippers. Then HK really took over when the second floor opened up. Since then all the other bars tried to do the same but with no success. So that's why I think someone just needs to try a different approach.

Sol12
06-10-21, 23:00
Can you share some insight on 7 De Copas? Is it a straight up puta bar or a club that working girls frequent?Well as others have stated it is all owned by the same family. One day took a trip with some buddies back in early 2000's to check out those bars. Started off in late afternoon ate Cueva del Peludo and had good selection of young girls and pool tables. Not sure if they changed but that was the old set up. Reminded me of the old La Tropa Bar that was also run by the same family. Then we went to 7, this was pre expansion and ok place not pushy like zona bars. Hotel Cancun onsite. I think with the recent expansion they are more like Chavelas with the live music and trying to get guys that don't want to be around the tourists in the Zona. Actually the captain from that bar is now a captain in HK / Chavelas. The best bar out in that part of town use to be Bar Titanic, but it closed like many others.

It's funny to hear guys say 7 is in a bad part of town considering where the Zona bars are. I mean it's not like your walking that far so not sure what to be scared of. 7 is right across from the swap meet Sígalo XXI and was always very tempting for me to have a beer while the GF was shopping.

Jackie888
06-11-21, 02:41
I think with the recent expansion they are more like Chavelas with the live music and trying to get guys that don't want to be around the tourists in the Zona.That is code for: locals that refuse to pay the outrageous prices that HK extorts moron tourists.

LuvMexicanas
06-11-21, 09:41
Adelitas was on fire at 11 pm on Thursday night. Lots of hot chicas but a Dominicana stood out for me. She's clearly Afro Latina the combo was beyond sexy along with her accent. I first met her Wednesday night and went back for more. Both nights she drank so slowly to maximize her time with me. She loved me like I was her newly wed husband. She's from CDMX and her real name is Deya. She told me the name she uses at Adelitas but I forgot it. Her piercing eyes scrambled my brain once she kissed me and told me her real name. She will return to CDMX in a couple days so I'll definitely hit her up my next visit. I was just there a week ago. I've been with hundreds of chicas during the course of the hobby but she stands out as the sexiest chica I've ever met and it's not even close. She's burned in my mind and it's going to be awhile before I get her out of my head.

Sol12
06-12-21, 05:43
That is code for: locals that refuse to pay the outrageous prices that HK extorts moron tourists.More like people that don't want to be around dumb, drunk Americans. Narcos, coyotes don't like to be around the tourists and listen to the shit music in HK.

Sol12
06-12-21, 05:46
Adelitas was on fire at 11 pm on Thursday night. Lots of hot chicas but a Dominicana stood out for me. She's clearly Afro Latina the combo was beyond sexy along with her accent. I first met her Wednesday night and went back for more. Both nights she drank so slowly to maximize her time with me. She loved me like I was her newly wed husband. She's from CDMX and her real name is Deya. She told me the name she uses at Adelitas but I forgot it. Her piercing eyes scrambled my brain once she kissed me and told me her real name. She will return to CDMX in a couple days so I'll definitely hit her up my next visit. I was just there a week ago. I've been with hundreds of chicas during the course of the hobby but she stands out as the sexiest chica I've ever met and it's not even close. She's burned in my mind and it's going to be awhile before I get her out of my head.Luv didn't you also like a girl you meet in CDMX? Are becoming a softy PLM? J / k just have fun and don't fall in love.

Jackie888
06-12-21, 18:07
More like people that don't want to be around dumb, drunk Americans. Narcos, coyotes don't like to be around the tourists and listen to the shit music in HK.The music they play in HK is pretty shitty. I think they recycle teen-pop shit from the Disney station. I'm not exaggerating.

BigButtDetecto
06-12-21, 19:39
Buy a bottled water. Put it in front of you. No one will fuck with you.Yes I call the bottle of water a "mesero repellent".

LuvMexicanas
06-12-21, 20:19
Yes I call the bottle of water a "mesero repellent".Yeah, I've done the same thing by chilling with Coke or Red Bull for a sometimes much needed caffeine boost.

LuvMexicanas
06-13-21, 17:44
Luv didn't you also like a girl you meet in CDMX? Are becoming a softy PLM? J / k just have fun and don't fall in love.It's okay to like working girls man. It makes the hobby fun and fucking more interesting. You do raise a good point. It's been awhile since I've had two memorable ones back to back. Usually, many transactional lays separate the memorable ones. The recent one in CDMX was memorable from an education and intelligence standpoint than anything else. Won't fall in love bro. Case in point, despite the numerous desperate pleas for money from chicas over the years, I've never sent a dime. Well, there was a close call a couple months ago with a chica who I was getting along with and I was going to send her money for her birthday, but it turned out her birthday was bullshit, which I wrote about in another post.

Sol12
06-14-21, 00:08
It's okay to like working girls man. It makes the hobby fun and fucking more interesting. You do raise a good point. It's been awhile since I've had two memorable ones back to back. Usually, many transactional lays separate the memorable ones. The recent one in CDMX was memorable from an education and intelligence standpoint than anything else. Won't fall in love bro. Case in point, despite the numerous desperate pleas for money from chicas over the years, I've never sent a dime. Well, there was a close call a couple months ago with a chica who I was getting along with and I was going to send her money for her birthday, but it turned out her birthday was bullshit, which I wrote about in another post.It is odd when I could go months with not finding a great session and really not wanting to go to Tijuana. Then bam I go one day and meet a great girl and my streak is over and I start having good luck again. I think this last year was very hard to not try and help a girl out with the whole Covid mess. In all my years I never sent money or was asked to send money to anyone. Now I have done my fair share of questionable things like flying down to a favs town to fly her back to Tijuana, but it was more like a little vacation. Also bought a plane ticket for a fav to go home for Christmas. Never asked just wanted to do it for her. In my opinion if you have the means and it doesn't make you sleep in the streets there is nothing wrong with helping a girl out. I think both sides try to get as much from the other as possible you just have to be smart enough to know when it's out of control.

LuvMexicanas
06-14-21, 01:23
It is odd when I could go months with not finding a great session and really not wanting to go to Tijuana. Then bam I go one day and meet a great girl and my streak is over and I start having good luck again. I think this last year was very hard to not try and help a girl out with the whole Covid mess. In all my years I never sent money or was asked to send money to anyone. Now I have done my fair share of questionable things like flying down to a favs town to fly her back to Tijuana, but it was more like a little vacation. Also bought a plane ticket for a fav to go home for Christmas. Never asked just wanted to do it for her. In my opinion if you have the means and it doesn't make you sleep in the streets there is nothing wrong with helping a girl out. I think both sides try to get as much from the other as possible you just have to be smart enough to know when it's out of control.You can get lots of mileage from a plane ticket and I'm not talking frequent flier miles. A simple plane ticket for a chica to return from let's say Guadalajara to Tijuana so she can work in the Zona again might cost you a hundred bucks but what if I told you that the first day and night she's in Tijuana she's all mine with no clock watching. Thus, I agree there's a back and forth between both sides but sometimes a symbolic monetary gesture such as a plane ticket can get you platinum status.

Captain Solo
06-14-21, 14:35
Sol12.

Some if not most young girls in Mexico are unemployed or underemployed, have no steady income, barely surviving. They can get into very desperate situations, especially with recent shutdown by CoVid19.

3 months into CoVid shutdown, an ex HK girl ran out of money to buy food for her puppy, had to put her dog up for adoption. 6 months into it, she texted me one night, terrified, had no work, no money, no food in the house. I know she was honest and would not lie to me, so I sent her money so she could have food the same night. I met her again after that. She lost a lot of weight due to malnutrition she she was not lying to me. I am guessing a lot of Mexican families were hungry during the shutdown.

A few years back I found a very beautiful MTY girl working in HK. She went home and gave me her tel. I called, talked to a woman, her next door neighbor. There were chicken quacking and children playing in the background. I had to ask a guy to talk for me on the phone. This very beautiful girl was living in poverty in a slum in Monterrey. She wanted to go back to Tijuana to make some money but had no money to buy air ticket. I really wanted to see her again so bought her a RT ticket, only about $100. It was worth it to see that girl again.

My wingmen also advanced money to desperate girls a few times. They got GFEs back big time.

Don't be so hard on these young girls. Some may be BS artist with addictions, but not all would lie to you. If you think they have real needs, be a human and help them out. In cases I have seen, the girls always return the kindness with lots of gratitude and love.

Jackie888
06-14-21, 18:13
It is odd when I could go months with not finding a great session and really not wanting to go to Tijuana. Then bam I go one day and meet a great girl and my streak is over and I start having good luck again. I think this last year was very hard to not try and help a girl out with the whole Covid mess. In all my years I never sent money or was asked to send money to anyone. Now I have done my fair share of questionable things like flying down to a favs town to fly her back to Tijuana, but it was more like a little vacation. Also bought a plane ticket for a fav to go home for Christmas. Never asked just wanted to do it for her. In my opinion if you have the means and it doesn't make you sleep in the streets there is nothing wrong with helping a girl out. I think both sides try to get as much from the other as possible you just have to be smart enough to know when it's out of control.I think it's out of control when they start linking their families into you. My mom. My brother. My sister. All needs help. I guess if I was a rich guy, there would not be a problem. But the reality is that I work for a living and that fucking retard of a brother should be looking for a job instead of having drug problems and needing my help to get into rehab.

Sol12
06-15-21, 00:32
Sol12.

Some if not most young girls in Mexico are unemployed or underemployed, have no steady income, barely surviving. They can get into very desperate situations, especially with recent shutdown by CoVid19.

3 months into CoVid shutdown, an ex HK girl ran out of money to buy food for her puppy, had to put her dog up for adoption. 6 months into it, she texted me one night, terrified, had no work, no money, no food in the house. I know she was honest and would not lie to me, so I sent her money so she could have food the same night. I met her again after that. She lost a lot of weight due to malnutrition she she was not lying to me. I am guessing a lot of Mexican families were hungry during the shutdown.

A few years back I found a very beautiful MTY girl working in HK. She went home and gave me her tel. I called, talked to a woman, her next door neighbor. There were chicken quacking and children playing in the background. I had to ask a guy to talk for me on the phone. This very beautiful girl was living in poverty in a slum in Monterrey. She wanted to go back to Tijuana to make some money but had no money to buy air ticket. I really wanted to see her again so bought her a RT ticket, only about $100. It was worth it to see that girl again..I think many guys over think things and are always suspicious of the girls that might ask for something. Unfortunately the girls that do try to take advantage of guys make it had for those that are sincere and have nowhere else to turn. You also need to take into account how the Latin culture is compared to the US. Those that have the means to help others especially family are expected to do so. My ex still has family in Mexico that will call when they need something. Sometimes she can but sometimes she just has to ignore the phone calls. One more thing that I currently have seen with a girl I spend time with is that she is always trying to help poor kids in the street. It's easy to think that it's the parents responsibility to care for the kids and I completely agree but she will go out of her way to give them money or buy them lunch. Now she could be heartless and just save the money for her own family but most aren't that way.

In regards to buying a plane ticket for girls to come back to Tijuana it might if changed over the years but lots of times if the girl works good the bar will buy the ticket and just let the girl pay it back. Can't be 100% sure on that anymore especially with a bar like HK where the girls don't bring in too many fichas for the bar.

KC Questor
06-15-21, 02:04
You can get lots of mileage from a plane ticket and I'm not talking frequent flier miles. A simple plane ticket for a chica to return from let's say Guadalajara to Tijuana so she can work in the Zona again might cost you a hundred bucks but what if I told you that the first day and night she's in Tijuana she's all mine with no clock watching. Thus, I agree there's a back and forth between both sides but sometimes a symbolic monetary gesture such as a plane ticket can get you platinum status.This works for me as well. I bought my favorita a plane ticket home to Monterrey. The night before the flight she came over and spent the night, full GFE and it cost me a $90 ticket plus a $5 uber to the airport in the morning.

She just messaged me and asked if I will fly her back to Tijuana on my next trip. That's a 100% yes. I'll buy her a ticket to TJ, let her work for 3-4 days, then fly her home. As long as I get two TLNs out of the deal, I'm happy to do that.

Dogers69
06-15-21, 02:30
I've had many girls who will text me from their home town, trying to be friends again, by 3rd text they ask for money. One this year also said needed plane ticket to Tijuana. After I said I was leaving calif in a day wouldn't see her, she shows me picture of her boyfriend and she's not really going to Tijuana any more. I'm not saying a guy can't get lucky but to me, any guy who sends 100 bucks to a girl not in Tijuana probably has a 10% of receiving free sex someday for that. These are some low odds. Remember, these girls have a ton of contacts. Food in Mexico in middle no where still costs almost same as USA and Tijuana. Same as cell phone bill. Do you really think some girl is down to less then 100 bucks?

BigButtDetecto
06-27-21, 20:49
I went to Adelitas yesterday, Saturday and the ratio men to women was pretty good. Problem is the guys at the door; one alleged again that I don't buy drinks; I had to find a server at the bar to witness that I buy drinks; they suck; among all bars they are the only one who do that; they must be desperate for $$.

MemoeNasty
06-28-21, 00:54
I went to Adelitas yesterday, Saturday and the ratio men to women was pretty good. Problem is the guys at the door; one alleged again that I don't buy drinks; I had to find a server at the bar to witness that I buy drinks; they suck; among all bars they are the only one who do that; they must be desperate for $$.This bar has always been like this. Waiters and chicas pressure you to buy a drink before you even find a table to sit at. This is the worst bar by far for that shit. Moe.

Gregyyr
06-28-21, 05:33
Buy a bottled water. Put it in front of you. No one will fuck with you.Yep Jackie. I totally agree an no problem when I did this at Adelita's (or other bars). I typically just drink water when I am at the bars. Sounds boring but I just like flirting and touching the women and having beer just fucks with my senses when I need to be very aware of what the hell is going on inside a club etc.

LuvMexicanas
06-28-21, 07:55
This bar has always been like this. Waiters and chicas pressure you to buy a drink before you even find a table to sit at. This is the worst bar by far for that shit. Moe.I've never had that issue at AB but then again, I like to throw back some brews.

Rambo1969
06-28-21, 08:17
Yes I call the bottle of water a "mesero repellent".Love it! So true!

Sometimes I want to go to HK club just to hang for a few minutes and not buy a drink since I plan to be there under 20 minutes.

Fighting off the meseros makes those visits uncomfortable.

Member #4730
06-28-21, 23:54
This bar has always been like this. Waiters and chicas pressure you to buy a drink before you even find a table to sit at. This is the worst bar by far for that shit. Moe.I didn't have any issue with any of the bars. Either I'm on the hunt or sit down and just get a Fresca or juice because I don't drink. It is hard enough to love on the chicas when sober that I couldn't even imagine being wasted. I do notice the meseros roaming around checking drink levels, but I call that good service. Sometimes it is lacking at regular restaurants as they don't stop by to see if you need another drink, but no issue in the clubs. I look at everyone in the industry trying to provide for their families. I've been supporting single moms around the world and don't regret any minute of it. Have fun and stay safe!

UsaInEurope
07-03-21, 20:48
Day 2 of our Tijuana adventure.

Went to wine country all day and had an amazing time. The best seafood was in Playa Nuevo -- get a whole huge lobster and trimmings for $20.

Day 1 summary: Chevalas, Hk, Tropical.

Wanted to hit other ones.

About 1030-11 Went to Adelitas first where he had success before. Hung out with a drink and watched the party but didn't see anyone transcendent. Getting a sense of the club vibes. HK is all party and hottest girls and would be fun to hang there. Chevalas is very badly laid out and enh girls who didn't do much for their tip. Tropical is classier with girls who are more chill I liked the vibe there best -- sure it's a party but more like a lounge than a party club. Adelitas was a party spot with hotter girls than Chicago / Chevalas and sluttier (boobs just flying around bare or under fishnet) but they're hyper aggressive and very plastic (too much makeup, big implants on tits and ass). Fun to have a girl just walk up and rub her boobs in your face and grab your dick but after a while I just wanted to chill with mi amigo and sip a drink and watch the girls and evalute who's there. So we left to see what else we missed the night before.

Chicago -- one good looking girl but my buddy hated the girls and was antsy to leave. Whatever. Good atmosphere (better than Gloria's or whatever it's called -- that's the worst) but can't report much more than that.

La Gloria -- HORRIBLE. Old, gordo, sausage fest. No idea why guys are hanging out here.

Tropical at midnight -- much worse than the night before -- maybe everyone was picked over already? One old guy was getting mouth to mouth by a fully clothed girl -- jeans and shirt and not that hot -- right next to the stage. Left quickly.

Went back to Adelitas as they had the best lineup. Now it's 1 ish. Grab seats at the stage and the shows are amazing -- fully nude, guys making it rain, good music, girls nearly screwing guys in the booths. Grabbed a girl after she kept winking her pooper shoot at me -- shorter, curvy, no fake anything, forgot her name. Doesn't matter anyway.

They key for me was to take her to the back lounge area. I bought her a beer at that stage seat and she didn't let me do much. Walked her all the way to the back and sat down and she had her nipples out, legs spread for me to rub her bare and grabbing me. Much better. A few tips and another beer and we agree to $80. I'm a great negotiator. These girls are just not budging off $80. Even on a Thursday night. Whatever, I'm not stressing $20. And, no, I'm not ruining it for anyone else. That's what the market is at after all my negotiating tricks. Anyway, it worked out.

Just like always you also have to pay $1 to the doorman when you walk out.

Took me up to the room and it was surprisingly clean and nice. Hard floors, clean shower. Was expecting mold and falling ceilings like some 3rd world Asian working girl rooms.

She jumped up to do her 10 minute fuck and dump routine. Instead I undressed her and laid her down for a foot rub and then flipped her over for a quick massage. Once I got to her shoulders she immediately relaxed and took her wall down a bit. Of course my johnson was probing her hole and she didn't stop me so I just pressed it in. Yadda yadda yadda she let me continue, she showered separately and then stood next to the stage to do it again. Hotel was $15 ish, something under $20. Cleaning guys made me tip them as we walked out, so $1. Whatever, that's a really shitty job.

Buddy walked out with a girl when I walked in so hung out from 245-315 ish am. More of the same -- more rain, more sluttier girls, guy completely passed out on a stool, girl getting doggy on the floor leaning on the stage with her boobs out and flopping back and forth (really looked like she was getting it).

TLDR: $80 seems the standard. If a club doesn't seem good, come back in a couple hours. Find the scene you want -- super party (HK, Adelitas), more chill (Tropical), etc.

KC Questor
07-06-21, 02:35
That's the Adelita Bar that I know and love. I don't know why so many guys hate the place. It's my favorite Zona Norte bar on average. Chicago may be more fun on some nights, and Hong Kong is better on the slowest times, and Tropical has some real diamonds in the rough, but Adelita Bar is consistently the best for me. It helps that I love curvy girls, and the stick thin girls at Hong Kong with the big padded bras do nothing for me.

UsaInEurope
07-08-21, 22:15
That's the Adelita Bar that I know and love. I don't know why so many guys hate the place. It's my favorite Zona Norte bar on average. Chicago may be more fun on some nights, and Hong Kong is better on the slowest times, and Tropical has some real diamonds in the rough, but Adelita Bar is consistently the best for me. It helps that I love curvy girls, and the stick thin girls at Hong Kong with the big padded bras do nothing for me.Day 3 quick update. Went back to Adelitas because the noob wanted to bang the same girl again and get it in bare.

So they were drinking and her friend comes over, sits in my lap and asks me to buy her Cheetos. Fine.

She takes all her clothes off, bends over and sticks one in her ass crack while leaning on the stage then turns around and smiles at me. Yes, I ate her ass out right there. Then she turned around and put one on her clit. Yup, you bet I did.

LuvMexicanas
07-09-21, 02:29
Day 3 quick update. Went back to Adelitas because the noob wanted to bang the same girl again and get it in bare.

So they were drinking and her friend comes over, sits in my lap and asks me to buy her Cheetos. Fine.

She takes all her clothes off, bends over and sticks one in her ass crack while leaning on the stage then turns around and smiles at me. Yes, I ate her ass out right there. Then she turned around and put one on her clit. Yup, you bet I did.That's 100% pure puta which is a beautiful thing in my book. If you're going to be one, you might as well go for the gold.

Gregyyr
07-09-21, 03:35
Day 3 quick update. Went back to Adelitas because the noob wanted to bang the same girl again and get it in bare.

So they were drinking and her friend comes over, sits in my lap and asks me to buy her Cheetos. Fine.

She takes all her clothes off, bends over and sticks one in her ass crack while leaning on the stage then turns around and smiles at me. Yes, I ate her ass out right there. Then she turned around and put one on her clit. Yup, you bet I did.OMG. What a great experience with the Cheeto! That is what I love about these places. Always something interesting. Something you never thought would happen.

I am planning on going this Saturday if all works out. Going to try to find Sofia from Venezuela in Adelitas. Last time I was there I found her but she sat with the same guy for hours at a table. I kept going back to Adelitas every hour to see if she was free but nope. Still with the same guy. The last time I checked back at the bar she was gone! Hope to hell she got the guy to go screw her for all the hours she worked for it.

G.

Jackie888
07-09-21, 17:46
Day 3 quick update. Went back to Adelitas because the noob wanted to bang the same girl again and get it in bare.

So they were drinking and her friend comes over, sits in my lap and asks me to buy her Cheetos. Fine.

She takes all her clothes off, bends over and sticks one in her ass crack while leaning on the stage then turns around and smiles at me. Yes, I ate her ass out right there. Then she turned around and put one on her clit. Yup, you bet I did.Hmm. I wonder if she used the same cheeto for both times.

Jackie888
07-09-21, 17:49
That's the Adelita Bar that I know and love. I don't know why so many guys hate the place. It's my favorite Zona Norte bar on average. Chicago may be more fun on some nights, and Hong Kong is better on the slowest times, and Tropical has some real diamonds in the rough, but Adelita Bar is consistently the best for me. It helps that I love curvy girls, and the stick thin girls at Hong Kong with the big padded bras do nothing for me.Personally I hate the hotel staff upstairs. At peak times like a Friday or Saturday night, I cannot really tell the difference in quality between Adelitas, HK or Chicago. It's only during the slow times like a mid week, mid afternoon that I sense a noticeable drop in quality in Chicago and Adelitas.

BigButtDetecto
07-10-21, 21:42
That's the Adelita Bar that I know and love. I don't know why so many guys hate the place. It's my favorite Zona Norte bar on average. Chicago may be more fun on some nights, and Hong Kong is better on the slowest times, and Tropical has some real diamonds in the rough, but Adelita Bar is consistently the best for me. It helps that I love curvy girls, and the stick thin girls at Hong Kong with the big padded bras do nothing for me.Girls are curvy; I like it too.

The fat bouncers at the entrance and the pushy meseros I don't like.

BigButtDetecto
07-10-21, 21:50
I didn't have any issue with any of the bars. Either I'm on the hunt or sit down and just get a Fresca or juice because I don't drink. It is hard enough to love on the chicas when sober that I couldn't even imagine being wasted. I do notice the meseros roaming around checking drink levels, but I call that good service. Sometimes it is lacking at regular restaurants as they don't stop by to see if you need another drink, but no issue in the clubs. I look at everyone in the industry trying to provide for their families. I've been supporting single moms around the world and don't regret any minute of it. Have fun and stay safe!"I look at everyone in the industry trying to provide for their families. ".

I personally don't consider mongering a charity. I am not here to help anybody; just have a good time for myself. I am not going to help useless meseros whose only job is to make you waste your money on drinks.

Member #4730
07-10-21, 21:56
"I look at everyone in the industry trying to provide for their families. ".

I personally don't consider mongering a charity. I am not here to help anybody; just have a good time for myself. I am not going to help useless meseros whose only job is to make you waste your money on drinks.Everyone provides a service or product for money, I just choose to get more value for my dollar. I'm into making sure I have a good time and if the people that offer the great service deliver, then they are properly compensated. I have a much better time internationally than spending $200-$400 on a provider in the states for half ass service. I highly doubt the ladies grew up thinking they are going to be working in the clubs entertaining gringos. They all have to make ends meet.

Dcrist0527
07-11-21, 03:00
Everyone provides a service or product for money, I just choose to get more value for my dollar. I'm into making sure I have a good time and if the people that offer the great service deliver, then they are properly compensated. I have a much better time internationally than spending $200-$400 on a provider in the states for half ass service. I highly doubt the ladies grew up thinking they are going to be working in the clubs entertaining gringos. They all have to make ends meet.KoolBeans, I agree. Just my opinion but guys that worry about a dollar or two to a mesero are missing the whole point. If you let a dollar ot two ruin your night, that's foolish. Yes, some meseros are crooked or insert your favorite insult. It's rare. But if some mesero scams me out of a dollar, I'll be damned if that ruins my night. Think about all of the ways you waste a dollar every day in the states and don't think twice about it. I get the whole alpha male thing. But the way I see it, they work for me.

And I stand by my suggestion for those that go often. When you find a good mesero, make him your mesero every visit. There will be a mutual respect and you will have no problems with him, or others.

Member #4730
07-14-21, 02:57
I went Monday night and was tired, but hey junior wants to party. I got in to Tijuana around 8 pm and walked around HK which was really dead except a few dancers, but it really seemed like the B team was in town and mostly overweight, plump ladies. I decided to bail before the first drink and head to Adelitas to check it out. They had more attractive women during this time and got a Fresca sitting at the main stage. The minor complaint is every club I get a fresca or coke gives me a glass with ice and the bottle or can. At Adelitas they just pour the drink, but keep the rest in a bottle or can at the bar. I guess they save significant money this way and makes you buy 2 drinks rather than just 1. I saw a cute lady sitting on a stool in the middle of the main bar in front. I asked if she wanted a drink and then took her to the more private stage booths in the back. The mesero said it was a 5 drink minimum to be in the area, so I said we’d move, but then he said it was fine if we stayed. She tried to order a $70 tequila, which should have signaled me to just get up and leave, but she was fine with a beer.

I couldn't understand what her name, but she is from Venezuela and came from Puerto Vallarta. She has a cute face and nice man makes that look natural. The best feature is her butt was perfect and I could palm a cheek in each hand. Not sure why she was showing off her assets and sitting on the bar stool, but those types of butts drive me wild. She got on top of me and I started to try and lick her titties and grab her butt, but she objected to the licking and sucking.

The objections kind of killed the vibe, but being the first lady sitting on my lap for the night, I couldn't resist that butt. I was kissing on her neck and back while she was grabbing junior. She kept saying gordo and called me crazy. I said yeah I'm pretty crazy and she said she is a little crazy. If she wasn't the first for the night, then probably would have passed, but took her up for $100. The rooms cost $16 and the room was very basic. We got down to business and she wouldn't allow DATY, but gave LFK. She isn't as freaky as I would have liked as I sure would have ate that ass. When we finished we took a shower and the one towel they gave us smelled like it should have been thrown out 10 years ago. I didn't bother to get her number, but she does have a lovely rear. If I see her in the club, then I'll be sure to buy her fichas so I can have her straddle me and rub on that butt.

Gregyyr
07-14-21, 05:41
I went Monday night and was tired, but hey junior wants to party. I got in to Tijuana around 8 pm and walked around HK which was really dead except a few dancers, but it really seemed like the B team was in town and mostly overweight, plump ladies. I decided to bail before the first drink and head to Adelitas to check it out. They had more attractive women during this time and got a Fresca sitting at the main stage. The minor complaint is every club I get a fresca or coke gives me a glass with ice and the bottle or can. At Adelitas they just pour the drink, but keep the rest in a bottle or can at the bar. I guess they save significant money this way and makes you buy 2 drinks rather than just 1. I saw a cute lady sitting on a stool in the middle of the main bar in front. I asked if she wanted a drink and then took her to the more private stage booths in the back. The mesero said it was a 5 drink minimum to be in the area, so I said wed move, but then he said it was fine if we stayed. She tried to order a $70 tequila, which should have signaled me to just get up and leave, but she was fine with a beer.

I couldn't understand what her name, but she is from Venezuela and came from Puerto Vallarta. She has a cute face and nice man makes that look natural. The best feature is her butt was perfect and I could palm a cheek in each hand. Not sure why she was showing off her assets and sitting on the bar stool, but those types of butts drive me wild. She got on top of me and I started to try and lick her titties and grab her butt, but she objected to the licking and sucking..Yes. The girl from Venezuela with the great ass! Junior was wore out and I wasn't going to drop another $100 for a hooker as I am trying to not go broke in zona norte. But she is Wonderful. Great personality. Great to share drinks with. She was the one I danced with a bit in the back. I want to go down this Friday or Saturday. And fuck her! There are two girls from Venezuela and she introduced me to the other (not as nice of a ass. Little bigger girl).

Glad to hear other bro's are loving on this girl and supporting her. I will try to do my part this weekend.

G.

Member #4730
07-14-21, 20:06
Yes. The girl from Venezuela with the great ass! Junior was wore out and I wasn't going to drop another $100 for a hooker as I am trying to not go broke in zona norte. But she is Wonderful. Great personality. Great to share drinks with. She was the one I danced with a bit in the back. I want to go down this Friday or Saturday. And fuck her! There are two girls from Venezuela and she introduced me to the other (not as nice of a ass. Little bigger girl).

Glad to hear other bro's are loving on this girl and supporting her. I will try to do my part this weekend.

G.Yeah she is lovely to have drinks with, but not as freaky with me in the bedroom. I didn't get introduced to her friend, but she was sitting by herself at the bar. She would probably get more business if she walked around or advertised that wonderful natural assets. She told me her name, but between the loud music and her accent, I had no clue and just shook my head in agreement.

Dogers69
07-15-21, 05:35
Returned to Tijuana Tuesday. Adelitas was very quiet. 3 steps into the place waiter wants to know my drink, I go to bar, bar tender keeps my dollar change without asking me. Adelitas beer is same price as HK for depressing atmosphere.

Jackie888
07-15-21, 19:55
Last week I saw a tall black woman at Adelitas and was very intrigued. Does anyone know where in Latin American is the best location for beautiful sexy black women?

Jackie888
07-15-21, 20:18
Apologize if this is a double post. Anyone know whee is the best location in Mexico or Latin America to find Black-Latina working chicas?

Member #4730
07-15-21, 21:05
Apologize if this is a double post. Anyone know whee is the best location in Mexico or Latin America to find Black-Latina working chicas?I'd imagine Brazil and Columbia. I've been with a few in the clubs from Columbia and even been with one that is possible mixed from Mexico.

Heyunous
07-15-21, 22:21
I'd imagine Brazil and Columbia. I've been with a few in the clubs from Columbia and even been with one that is possible mixed from Mexico.Best bet in Brazil is Rio (VM) and in Cali you will find more Black Colombian women than you will in Medellin or Bogota. Your best bet if you are crazy enough is Buenaventura.

Gregyyr
07-17-21, 07:50
Made a special trip down to Adelitas to fuck the gal from Venezuela but she was a no-show after texting earlier in the same day that she would be there at 8 pm. Arg. I had gotten a hotel room, took a shower. I thought the $100 income would get her to come but she probably had a better offer.

Sometimes I just got to "let it go". Like it ain't going to happen with some girls no matter how positive or what they say etc.

Of course when one door closes another opens. Met a beautiful girl in Chavellas earlier that night with a smoking little body. Thought it was interesting she just ordered a 2nd beer and didn't even ask if I was ok with it. Guess she read my mind as I wasn't about to object but would have been nice to have asked me. Course when I got stood up by Ms. Venezuela at Adelitas I looked for the Chavellas girl but she was nowhere to be found. Argg. Still some good fun was had.

G.

Member #4730
07-17-21, 14:12
I was at HK Friday night and left due to the lack of talent and absolute sausage fest in the club. I walked into Adelitas and usually walk around to assess the talent before getting a drink. As soon as I walked in, I saw a chica and she was staring at me like her jaw dropped. I was thinking she is going to be the freak I need for tonight. The club was crowded and I didn't want to share a booth with other couples, so I decided to try the more private VIP area which requires buying a bucket of 5 lady drinks. The mesero took us upstairs to a lounge area with a stripper pole. Gaby introduced herself and she says she used to work in Playa de Carmen on the beach, but it got dangerous. She is from Venezuela, but was in Playa de Carmen for past 2 years and been in Tijuana for 15 days. She has man made boobs and a natural butt, which I thought was a fake butt. The Venezuelan women I've met have a natural nice butt.

She is dancing and grinding on me, but limited kissing and limited accessibility to sucking her tits. After the bucket is done the meteor asks if I want a bottle and he said it would be $135, which he stated was a really good deal. I declined and said we are going upstairs. Second time I've been in Adelitas with a Venezuelan trying to get me to buy them tequila at $70-$135. We get upstairs and she requests the money up front like a pro. I was thinking this session was going to go down hill. She then proceeds to sanitize her pussy and my cock with a spray and baby wipe. She seems proud of her cleanliness. I knew the freak I was expecting just left the room. It was a normal session and would not repeat. She said she likes my body and was trying to learn English. I tried to teach her the word weight lifting, but she seemed to struggle. I know little Spanish and she knows less English. We went downstairs and I think she thought I was going back into the club with her to keep buying her more drinks, but I bid farewell and probably won't be back in Adelitas to pickup a Venezuelan. They have amazing rears, but service upstairs is lacking, well at least for me I need a freak.

Sol12
07-17-21, 17:14
I was at HK Friday night and left due to the lack of talent and absolute sausage fest in the club. I walked into Adelitas and usually walk around to assess the talent before getting a drink. As soon as I walked in, I saw a chica and she was staring at me like her jaw dropped. I was thinking she is going to be the freak I need for tonight. The club was crowded and I didn't want to share a booth with other couples, so I decided to try the more private VIP area which requires buying a bucket of 5 lady drinks. The mesero took us upstairs to a lounge area with a stripper pole. Gaby introduced herself and she says she used to work in Playa de Carmen on the beach, but it got dangerous. She is from Venezuela, but was in Playa de Carmen for past 2 years and been in Tijuana for 15 days. She has man made boobs and a natural butt, which I thought was a fake butt. The Venezuelan women I've met have a natural nice butt.

She is dancing and grinding on me, but limited kissing and limited accessibility to sucking her tits. After the bucket is done the meteor asks if I want a bottle and he said it would be $135, which he stated was a really good deal. I declined and said we are going upstairs. Second time I've been in Adelitas with a Venezuelan trying to get me to buy them tequila at $70-$135. We get upstairs and she requests the money up front like a pro. I was thinking this session was going to go down hill. She then proceeds to sanitize her pussy and my cock with a spray and baby wipe. She seems proud of her cleanliness. I knew the freak I was expecting just left the room. It was a normal session and would not repeat. She said she likes my body and was trying to learn English. I tried to teach her the word weight lifting, but she seemed to struggle. I know little Spanish and she knows less English. We went downstairs and I think she thought I was going back into the club with her to keep buying her more drinks, but I bid farewell and probably won't be back in Adelitas to pickup a Venezuelan. They have amazing rears, but service upstairs is lacking, well at least for me I need a freak.That story of her leaving Playa del Carmen due to it being unsafe I would question. I don't know the name of the club that the girls worked at but about a month ago they got raided and all of the foreign girls where not allowed to work anymore. I think it was about 8 girls from Venezuela that gut busted. In most other clubs in Mexico where these girls work they make a lot more off the drinks s that maybe why they have been trying to get higher price drinks so they get more.

BigButtDetecto
07-17-21, 18:31
Returned to Tijuana Tuesday. Adelitas was very quiet. 3 steps into the place waiter wants to know my drink, I go to bar, bar tender keeps my dollar change without asking me. Adelitas beer is same price as HK for depressing atmosphere.I always go to the bar too. The meseros give up right away.

Gregyyr
07-17-21, 20:10
I was at HK Friday night and left due to the lack of talent and absolute sausage fest in the club. I walked into Adelitas and usually walk around to assess the talent before getting a drink. As soon as I walked in, I saw a chica and she was staring at me like her jaw dropped. I was thinking she is going to be the freak I need for tonight. The club was crowded and I didn't want to share a booth with other couples, so I decided to try the more private VIP area which requires buying a bucket of 5 lady drinks. The mesero took us upstairs to a lounge area with a stripper pole. Gaby introduced herself and she says she used to work in Playa de Carmen on the beach, but it got dangerous. She is from Venezuela, but was in Playa de Carmen for past 2 years and been in Tijuana for 15 days. She has man made boobs and a natural butt, which I thought was a fake butt. The Venezuelan women I've met have a natural nice butt.

She is dancing and grinding on me, but limited kissing and limited accessibility to sucking her tits. After the bucket is done the meteor asks if I want a bottle and he said it would be $135, which he stated was a really good deal. I declined and said we are going upstairs. Second time I've been in Adelitas with a Venezuelan trying to get me to buy them tequila at $70-$135. We get upstairs and she requests the money up front like a pro. I was thinking this session was going to go down hill. She then proceeds to sanitize her pussy and my cock with a spray and baby wipe. She seems proud of her cleanliness. I knew the freak I was expecting just left the room. It was a normal session and would not repeat. She said she likes my body and was trying to learn English. I tried to teach her the word weight lifting, but she seemed to struggle.Where is that private area when you walk in?

Jackie888
07-17-21, 21:14
Interesting enough, I never have issues with the Meseros at Adelitas. I don't know why. But they never rush me, always give me exact change back, and never shake a bottle and take it away half-full bullshit. I actually find that the waiters at Adelitas to be more professional than their rivals at HK or Tropicals.

Gregyyr
07-17-21, 23:37
Interesting enough, I never have issues with the Meseros at Adelitas. I don't know why. But they never rush me, always give me exact change back, and never shake a bottle and take it away half-full bullshit. I actually find that the waiters at Adelitas to be more professional than their rivals at HK or Tropicals.I agree Jackie. I was in there on Friday meeting someone and we were going to actually leave the bar and I wandered around there for 15 minutes with a couple Meseros asking if I wanted anything. But not anything compared to HK. When I was at HK I was just doing an introduction with several of the girls to see if I even had any chemistry with the girl and multiple Meseros just kept interrupting asking if I wanted to get her a drink. I stopped, and explained to them very nicely that I don't even know if I have any chemistry. . or any communication at all that would be enjoyable for the length of a drink. So just give me a minute to talk to her and see if I want to buy her a drink! Adelitas was perty "chill".

G.

Member #4730
07-17-21, 23:37
That story of her leaving Playa del Carmen due to it being unsafe I would question. I don't know the name of the club that the girls worked at but about a month ago they got raided and all of the foreign girls where not allowed to work anymore. I think it was about 8 girls from Venezuela that gut busted. In most other clubs in Mexico where these girls work they make a lot more off the drinks s that maybe why they have been trying to get higher price drinks so they get more.Not sure but she used the word peligroso. It explains the drink situation as both one from Puerto Vallarta and the other from Playa de Carmen are really about the drink game. I'm more about clapping cheeks game.

Member #4730
07-17-21, 23:41
Where is that private area when you walk in?It is the second stage area with a second floor. It is still exposed, but the seats in the back are more private. Friday night was a zoo and most bros probably don't want to cough up the 5 bucket lady drinks admission to sit in the area. I had no choice as I would have been sitting next to other bros with the lady on my lap. I prefer more space especially since I think I caught a cold last night. Sore throat and runny nose. Not sure, but I prefer Sun-Tues crowds as Friday was just a pure zoo and most of the top talent I see on Sun-Tues were going or MIA. Glad I'm busy most weekends so no probably won't go back during the weekend.

Member #4730
07-17-21, 23:46
Interesting enough, I never have issues with the Meseros at Adelitas. I don't know why. But they never rush me, always give me exact change back, and never shake a bottle and take it away half-full bullshit. I actually find that the waiters at Adelitas to be more professional than their rivals at HK or Tropicals.All of the meseros have been pretty good especially the Tropical and Chicago club. They really hustle to bring ladies that might like company. Most of the time they are winners and I tip them an additional amount as they made the Zona experience. HK meseros are decent, but I've been so many times past 15 years that some nights probably 5 years back on a weekend they would sometimes run off with my $20 and never return with my $1 tips. Like the other poster mentioned, those transactions are best done straight at the bar.

BigButtDetecto
07-21-21, 03:12
OMG. What a great experience with the Cheeto! That is what I love about these places. Always something interesting. Something you never thought would happen.

I am planning on going this Saturday if all works out. Going to try to find Sofia from Venezuela in Adelitas. Last time I was there I found her but she sat with the same guy for hours at a table. I kept going back to Adelitas every hour to see if she was free but nope. Still with the same guy. The last time I checked back at the bar she was gone! Hope to hell she got the guy to go screw her for all the hours she worked for it.

G.She actually is from Colombia.

She was stting with 2 guys who did not want to let her go. So I waited and waited and finally she went to the bathroom. I could talk to her and made a quote for upstairs. She found a pretext to leave the guys. Perseverance and boldness often pays off.

Gregyyr
07-21-21, 03:20
It is the second stage area with a second floor. It is still exposed, but the seats in the back are more private. Friday night was a zoo and most bros probably don't want to cough up the 5 bucket lady drinks admission to sit in the area. I had no choice as I would have been sitting next to other bros with the lady on my lap. I prefer more space especially since I think I caught a cold last night. Sore throat and runny nose. Not sure, but I prefer Sun-Tues crowds as Friday was just a pure zoo and most of the top talent I see on Sun-Tues were going or MIA. Glad I'm busy most weekends so no probably won't go back during the weekend.In Chavellas I just dragged a girl down to the area to the right when you walk in with the stripper poles which sounds like the second stage area. We just danced on the floor near the stripper pole and didn't sit down so maybe the mesero's would have asked me for more money to be down there.

G.

Member #4730
07-21-21, 16:24
In Chavellas I just dragged a girl down to the area to the right when you walk in with the stripper poles which sounds like the second stage area. We just danced on the floor near the stripper pole and didn't sit down so maybe the mesero's would have asked me for more money to be down there.

G.I was referencing Adelitas. Not sure you can take chicas to another club.

Gregyyr
07-22-21, 00:35
I was referencing Adelitas. Not sure you can take chicas to another club.It was Adelitas. I got my clubs mixed up. When you walk into Adelitas and head back to the right the room goes into a lower floor with some strip poles. The area isn't very busy even on a Saturday night.

I still want to connect up with Orona from Venezuela at Adelatas. Maybe this weekend. Hot little ass OMG.

G.

KetoAndKettle
07-22-21, 03:32
All of the meseros have been pretty good especially the Tropical and Chicago club. They really hustle to bring ladies that might like company. Most of the time they are winners and I tip them an additional amount as they made the Zona experience. HK meseros are decent, but I've been so many times past 15 years that some nights probably 5 years back on a weekend they would sometimes run off with my $20 and never return with my $1 tips. Like the other poster mentioned, those transactions are best done straight at the bar.So it might be a good idea if you're sitting alone enjoying the sights, if whenever a mesero raises shit about you not drinking. To just say: "sure I'll get a drink, and then get up and walk past him to the bar". That would give me satisfaction. I've had some frustrating mesero experiences at HK. If you're with a girl, of course. Well, you tend to not want to leave her sitting alone.

Member #4730
07-23-21, 23:30
So it might be a good idea if you're sitting alone enjoying the sights, if whenever a mesero raises shit about you not drinking. To just say: "sure I'll get a drink, and then get up and walk past him to the bar". That would give me satisfaction. I've had some frustrating mesero experiences at HK. If you're with a girl, of course. Well, you tend to not want to leave her sitting alone.Never had shit from the meseros and they seem to throw me the shaka and yeah I know if I leave a lady by herself, then potentially she finds another customer. I just lost my turn and have to wait. They need to make that money. I'm surprised the lengths they go to present themselves with weaves, lashes, makeup, etc. It is amazing transition once you see them without lashes, weave, and makeup like a girl next door. All part of the bar girl presentation.

SeaBeeJoe
07-24-21, 21:15
Never had shit from the meseros and they seem to throw me the shaka and yeah I know if I leave a lady by herself, then potentially she finds another customer. I just lost my turn and have to wait. They need to make that money. I'm surprised the lengths they go to present themselves with weaves, lashes, makeup, etc. It is amazing transition once you see them without lashes, weave, and makeup like a girl next door. All part of the bar girl presentation.Yes I agree the mexican chica uses makeup like magic, you would hardly recognize them on the street without it, which I think is the point. The chicas have private lives outside of whoring, at least the smart ones do.

Jackie888
07-25-21, 23:48
Yes I agree the mexican chica uses makeup like magic, you would hardly recognize them on the street without it, which I think is the point. The chicas have private lives outside of whoring, at least the smart ones do.Except the eyebrows. For whatever reason, Mexican women do the weirdest craziest thing with their eyebrows. Either they draw thick as as their thumbs. Or they fucking shave most of it off and leave a line. Either way, they are distracting as hell when you are trying to hold a normal conversation.

Member #4730
07-26-21, 05:59
Except the eyebrows. For whatever reason, Mexican women do the weirdest craziest thing with their eyebrows. Either they draw thick as as their thumbs. Or they fucking shave most of it off and leave a line. Either way, they are distracting as hell when you are trying to hold a normal conversation.My ex mother in law had them tattooed to her face and she is in her 70's. Guess she was tired of the eyebrows and found permanent solution.

Rainman306
07-27-21, 02:47
It appears there is no way to make a reservation for the hotel attached to the Adelita bar.

Do they usually have availability on a walk in basis?

What are the weekday and weekend rates?

TjBrazil
07-27-21, 03:57
I don't have a problem with the clubs making you buy a drink if you sit at a booth. That's valuable real estate but if I'm sitting at the bar in those uncomfortable chairs, I'll buy another one when I'm ready. What irks me are people that think they should be able to go to a strip club in any city and watch all the girls dance and not buy anything. They are running a business.

Dogers69
07-27-21, 05:16
It appears there is no way to make a reservation for the hotel attached to the Adelita bar.

Do they usually have availability on a walk in basis?

What are the weekday and weekend rates?I once did reservation in person for 2 days later then they said I had no reservation. Yeah this hotel is not reliable. It's good to have HK reservation if this hotel is your goal. Because odds of a room are slim. Thursday probably most likely as Monday Tuesday wed at least was the 20 dollar night. Haven't tried in 4 months.

Gregyyr
07-27-21, 06:18
It appears there is no way to make a reservation for the hotel attached to the Adelita bar.

Do they usually have availability on a walk in basis?

What are the weekday and weekend rates?I just walked in there on a Friday and said I wanted a room for an hour with out any problem. I asked if I need it for another half hour longer and he said no problem for another $10. Not sure about overnight. It was weird they don't give you a key for short time of course.

That's the time my hooker flaked on me after I paid for the hotel room. Arg.

G.

KetoAndKettle
07-28-21, 05:18
I don't have a problem with the clubs making you buy a drink if you sit at a booth. That's valuable real estate but if I'm sitting at the bar in those uncomfortable chairs, I'll buy another one when I'm ready. What irks me are people that think they should be able to go to a strip club in any city and watch all the girls dance and not buy anything. They are running a business.You're right, that's a good point. Very valid. They don't ask for a cover charge, so why should guys expect a free show.

Gregyyr
07-28-21, 20:22
I once did reservation in person for 2 days later then they said I had no reservation. Yeah this hotel is not reliable. It's good to have HK reservation if this hotel is your goal. Because odds of a room are slim. Thursday probably most likely as Monday Tuesday wed at least was the 20 dollar night. Haven't tried in 4 months.Always good to print out or have the email confirmation for any reservation. At Cascadas one time they said they didn't find reservation but when I showed it to them they were able to find a room.

G.

KC Questor
07-28-21, 22:22
It appears there is no way to make a reservation for the hotel attached to the Adelita bar.
Do they usually have availability on a walk in basis?
What are the weekday and weekend rates?I've never had a problem just walking in to Hotel Coahuila, but then I never stay there on weekends. Monday-Wednesday the nightly rate is $20, so I always get a room there for at least one night even if I have another hotel room at a nicer hotel. If I take a girl from AB up it basically pays for the room, especially since there would be no time limit and I can freshen up at my leisure after the session. Even if I don't take up an AB girl, it's worth having a place to stash my phone charger, enjoy drinks bought from Oxxo, and take a nice relaxing shit.

Member #4730
07-28-21, 23:42
I've never had a problem just walking in to Hotel Coahuila, but then I never stay there on weekends. Monday-Wednesday the nightly rate is $20, so I always get a room there for at least one night even if I have another hotel room at a nicer hotel. If I take a girl from AB up it basically pays for the room, especially since there would be no time limit and I can freshen up at my leisure after the session. Even if I don't take up an AB girl, it's worth having a place to stash my phone charger, enjoy drinks bought from Oxxo, and take a nice relaxing shit.Thanks for the tip. They only provide 1 shitty towel when I go arriba, so hopefully they save the nice ones in the overnight rooms. It feels like they found the short time towels from the dumpster and I don't have to deal with the knock at the door.

TjBrazil
07-30-21, 01:31
You're right, that's a good point. Very valid. They don't ask for a cover charge, so why should guys expect a free show.I remember when I was at 4 x 4 in Rio. I love the place and the drinks were cheap. The girls didn't make commission. I would find a girl I like and grab ass and buy both of us a drink. The guy next to me tells me I don't have to buy her drink. Why am I buying her a drink. It's 4 dollars you idiot. We have been hanging out for 20 minutes. Buy her something so you have good chemistry in the room. Some guys act like they will need that 4 bucks in heaven when they die if you believe that BS. Some people are just so cheap. I can't take my money with me.

Member #4730
07-30-21, 01:45
I remember when I was at 4 x 4 in Rio. I love the place and the drinks were cheap. The girls didn't make commission. I would find a girl I like and grab ass and buy both of us a drink. The guy next to me tells me I don't have to buy her drink. Why am I buying her a drink. It's 4 dollars you idiot. We have been hanging out for 20 minutes. Buy her something so you have good chemistry in the room. Some guys act like they will need that 4 bucks in heaven when they die if you believe that BS. Some people are just so cheap. I can't take my money with me.I've met too many guys that step over dollars to pickup pennies. You can always make more money, but there is a limit to how much you can save. Mentality always struck me as odd and we might die tomorrow, so is that $4 going to do anything for your loved ones when you pass? They can't even get a value meal from McD.

TjBrazil
07-30-21, 06:58
I've met too many guys that step over dollars to pickup pennies. You can always make more money, but there is a limit to how much you can save. Mentality always struck me as odd and we might die tomorrow, so is that $4 going to do anything for your loved ones when you pass? They can't even get a value meal from McD.100 percent. I could see if a drink was 20 bucks which would be 40 a round. If you aren't that wealthy that could add up but 4 is normal and you have a 19 year old in a bikini next to you. What more do you want in life. I guess that's why a lot of the girls do have a hatred for some mongers and go through depression from their job. Treat the girl like a human being even if she is a hooker. Ain't that hard.

TjBrazil
07-30-21, 07:07
I've met too many guys that step over dollars to pickup pennies. You can always make more money, but there is a limit to how much you can save. Mentality always struck me as odd and we might die tomorrow, so is that $4 going to do anything for your loved ones when you pass? They can't even get a value meal from McD.You ever gamble at a casino and a hot waitress comes and brings everyone their drinks and there is always that one guy that completely stiffs her as if a measly dollar or two is going to bankrupt him. The girl walked in high heels back and forth and you stiff her.

Hadez
07-31-21, 04:17
Had a friend who learned a lesson at Adelitas about high cost drinks. Two guys and three girls sat down at table. The guys told the waiter to get the girls drinks. My friend was told something about a cheaper drink for all the girls (his memory of the details is not the best). The waiter brought two cheap bottles of wine in 2 buckets for the girls and 2 beers for the guys. The waiter poured drinks for all the girls and left without asking payment. My friend asked the girl how much the wine was and she said she did not know. It took him multiple tries to get the waiter back over to ask how much the wine was. Eventually the waiter came back and he was told the total for 2 beers and 2 bottles of wine was $286. I personally would have not paid but apparently he paid and claimed it was a learning experience. I am sure the vets laugh at a story like this. I personally never herd of anything to this level and I have seen some things over the many years I been going to the Zona. Maybe this helps the new people going. Maybe this just gives people a good laugh.

Personally I have learned any club besides HK will play games with the drinks. Like I said have never seen anything to this level. I have seen games played with buckets of beer for $90, have seen a waiter tell a guy if he did not buy a 2nd bucket of beer before the 1st bucket was all consumed that the girl would leave and have seen games played with specific areas of the clubs at Chicago. Chicago, Tropical and Adelitas play games with the bucket of beer hustle. This near $300 wine trick is a first for me.

Me I have learned if a bucket is delivered without discussion of the price I tell the waiter to leave. If he hesitates at all than I leave the club and go find another place to have fun. On any given night I have find great times at HK and 2 of the other major clubs around the Zona. I do not need any games the waiters play.