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Cocr Brotheler
12-31-22, 23:52
Fuzzy math.Luv this! This is my "calculus" too.
ABAJoeSmith123
01-01-23, 07:41
I don't know about you guys, but here is how my math works. Enhanced tits = sharks. Sharks = shitty rushed service. Therefore, Enhanced tits = shitty rushed service.
I think my algebra teacher would be proud that I still remember his x, why, z formulas and applied it for real life use.I always go for enhanced tits because I go to Tijuana for the fantasy experience. I could never hookup with a super hot chick in real life with huge tits which is why I get that amazing experience in Tijuana. The flat chested girls don't really offer that fantasy experience be / see you can see those types of girls anywhere in regular life.
Sure they enhanced tits may be sharks, but it's part of the fantasy experience we all seek down there.
FormulaOneFan
01-02-23, 08:16
I always go for enhanced tits because I go to Tijuana for the fantasy experience. I could never hookup with a super hot chick in real life with huge tits which is why I get that amazing experience in Tijuana. The flat chested girls don't really offer that fantasy experience be / see you can see those types of girls anywhere in regular life.
Sure they enhanced tits may be sharks, but it's part of the fantasy experience we all seek down there.I just don't like enhanced tits. They "look" good, but the actual experience of interacting with them is sub-par. If I wanted to knock around some volleyballs I'd go to the beach.
I'd much rather have a smaller set of natties than a big set of fake / hard titties.
Just my $0. 02.
I don't know about you guys, but here is how my math works. Enhanced tits = sharks. Sharks = shitty rushed service. Therefore, Enhanced tits = shitty rushed service.
I think my algebra teacher would be proud that I still remember his x, why, z formulas and applied it for real life use.Your a math genius and I have to agree that this looks to be the case with my past analysis. Also I have to add Catching feelings = thinking you can "save a hoe" which = being manipulated for more and more money. There for falling in love with a prositute = paying more for sex and going broke.
Cocr Brotheler
01-05-23, 02:58
"and going broke. ".
Hahahahaha.
https://images.app.goo.gl/6Xkhgw4vPu34CJUR9
ParallaxView
01-05-23, 22:01
I always go for enhanced tits because I go to Tijuana for the fantasy experience. I could never hookup with a super hot chick in real life with huge tits which is why I get that amazing experience in Tijuana. The flat chested girls don't really offer that fantasy experience be / see you can see those types of girls anywhere in regular life.
Sure they enhanced tits may be sharks, but it's part of the fantasy experience we all seek down there.I'm absolutely exactly with you. Like you, I'm not about to hook up with a super hot girl with huge tits. It is absolutely the fantasy aspect of why I go to Tijuana.
Which is also why I'm starting to tire of the bar scene (Adelitas, Hong Kong, etc.) where it is usually covered BJs unless, I imagine, you buy lots of drinks for the girl or have a good rapport with her for a long time. I'm not about to invest that type of energy or money, so I'm starting to lean towards escort agencies, but that's for another thread!
Stayed away from bars for a while after a incident with a off duty girl at different bar. Anyway returned to afelitas 2 days ago. Was looking for this girl who I bought 6 drinks and good for 10 days earlier. She was alpt of fun. This time I found her but the chemistry was gone. It was like midnight when I showed up. I'm usually gone by this time. I don't know if that's the reason or not but she wasn't very good during her teo drinks. Near the end of 2nd drink she wanted food again. "Sorry got to catch last trolley in San Diego bye". I had a hotel on revolution street. So around 1240 am I'm trying to walk back to hotel without getting robbed. One guy got mad I wouldn't give him a dollar. Then a black girl asked If I'm from states. "nope" kept moving faster. Anyone trying to slow my pace on empty streets is figuring how to rob me in my mind. When I checked out of hotel in morning saw a girl in lobby checking in who tried to get me to take her to my hotel at around 11 pm on revolution street 5 days earlier. Her I actually talked to as I was in front of Ceasars. But I don't bring girls to my hotel the maids and staff give me grief, questions, comments the next day.
Went back to Adelitas. Couldn't find a seat at the bar did a lap. Had to brush off 3 waiters to even do that. They genuinely get angry now where is hk waiters don't take it so personal like you preventing them feeding their family. After my lap I'm standing hoping a bar stool opens up. If I sit at a table I can't talk to any woman except the ones waiters bring over. At which point I have to buy them a drink within 30 seconds, with the waiter listening to whatever we talk about for 30 seconds. Its like going on a date with a woman's brother or dad watching. That's why I never sit at tables. So some boss kept sending waiters to get me to buy a drink as I'm standing still. Every 30 seconds, I kept telling them give me 1 minute please. So I was only standing still 90 seconds without a drink and the waiter said I had to buy a drink. At this I'm like, no problem I'll leave. Then he's yelling at me for leaving. I'm thinking,. Wow bro, you just yelled at me for not being ready to buy a drink immediately now your gona yell when I'm leaving. I always buy my drinks from bartenders, this bartender is similarly annoying but the whole concept of 2 waiters for every guy monitoring your every move trying to sell you food and flowers and stuffed animals and drinks constantly. Real turn off.
Went back to Adelitas. Couldn't find a seat at the bar did a lap. Had to brush off 3 waiters to even do that. They genuinely get angry now where is hk waiters don't take it so personal like you preventing them feeding their family. After my lap I'm standing hoping a bar stool opens up. If I sit at a table I can't talk to any woman except the ones waiters bring over. At which point I have to buy them a drink within 30 seconds, with the waiter listening to whatever we talk about for 30 seconds. Its like going on a date with a woman's brother or dad watching. That's why I never sit at tables. So some boss kept sending waiters to get me to buy a drink as I'm standing still. Every 30 seconds, I kept telling them give me 1 minute please. So I was only standing still 90 seconds without a drink and the waiter said I had to buy a drink. At this I'm like, no problem I'll leave. Then he's yelling at me for leaving. I'm thinking,. Wow bro, you just yelled at me for not being ready to buy a drink immediately now your gona yell when I'm leaving. I always buy my drinks from bartenders, this bartender is similarly annoying but the whole concept of 2 waiters for every guy monitoring your every move trying to sell you food and flowers and stuffed animals and drinks constantly. Real turn off.Waiters are not interested in making sense. They're interested in making money.
On the other hand, it seems reasonable to me for the house to expect everyone to buy a drink. They could easily impose a "minimum". This, of course, does not excuse the a-whole behavior described here.
ParallaxView
01-08-23, 21:11
Went back to Adelitas. Couldn't find a seat at the bar did a lap. Had to brush off 3 waiters to even do that. They genuinely get angry now where is hk waiters don't take it so personal like you preventing them feeding their family. After my lap I'm standing hoping a bar stool opens up. If I sit at a table I can't talk to any woman except the ones waiters bring over. At which point I have to buy them a drink within 30 seconds, with the waiter listening to whatever we talk about for 30 seconds. Its like going on a date with a woman's brother or dad watching. That's why I never sit at tables. So some boss kept sending waiters to get me to buy a drink as I'm standing still. Every 30 seconds, I kept telling them give me 1 minute please. So I was only standing still 90 seconds without a drink and the waiter said I had to buy a drink. At this I'm like, no problem I'll leave. Then he's yelling at me for leaving. I'm thinking,. Wow bro, you just yelled at me for not being ready to buy a drink immediately now your gona yell when I'm leaving. I always buy my drinks from bartenders, this bartender is similarly annoying but the whole concept of 2 waiters for every guy monitoring your every move trying to sell you food and flowers and stuffed animals and drinks constantly. Real turn off.This is so disappointing. Back 15 years ago when I went to Adelitas (and even 20 years ago when I would go a bit more), they would just basically let you hang out without getting a table. They'd let you ogle the women and just make laps unmolested and no pressure to buy anything if you didn't sit. What a shame to hear it has changed. I guess the only constant in life is change though. I went into Adelitas two weeks ago and didn't really see any women that caught my eye, and that was on a Saturday night no less which surprised me. Way back when, that was my spot!
Rainman306
01-08-23, 21:46
Back in February 2022 I gave a waiter a $50 when buying a lady drink. First he tried to bring over a bucket then I told him No only 1 lady drink. Then he never brought any change & claimed I only gave him a $10 bill. Then why would he at first bring over a bucket? Tried to get mgmt involved, but they were ultimately useless. He showed a random $10 bill like that's indisputable evidence.
It's a real shame because in my several visits in 2019 to 2021 and my visit later in Summer 2022 that night was the best lineup I had seen at Adelitas. Worse further, the women I was with I later overheard another monger exclaiming she was one of his best sexo sessions ever.
BrotherMouzone
01-09-23, 04:15
Back in February 2022 I gave a waiter a $50 when buying a lady drink. First he tried to bring over a bucket then I told him No only 1 lady drink. Then he never brought any change & claimed I only gave him a $10 bill. Then why would he at first bring over a bucket? Tried to get mgmt involved, but they were ultimately useless. He showed a random $10 bill like that's indisputable evidence.
It's a real shame because in my several visits in 2019 to 2021 and my visit later in Summer 2022 that night was the best lineup I had seen at Adelitas. Worse further, the women I was with I later overheard another monger exclaiming she was one of his best sexo sessions ever.Under no circumstances would I ever give a mesero a larger bill than a $20. If I need to break a larger bill would just go directly to the bar to do it. Bar meseros can be shady as well but much much less likely to try to screw you like that to your face vs. A table mesero who can walk off and say anything. But I always have more than enough smaller bills for the club and save $100 bills only for the chicas.
"and going broke. ".
Hahahahaha.
https://images.app.goo.gl/6Xkhgw4vPu34CJUR9WTF! Calculus on a monger board! You-all should be SO ashamed!
Under no circumstances would I ever give a mesero a larger bill than a $20. If I need to break a larger bill would just go directly to the bar to do it. Bar meseros can be shady as well but much much less likely to try to screw you like that to your face vs. A table mesero who can walk off and say anything. But I always have more than enough smaller bills for the club and save $100 bills only for the chicas.Giving a waiter a $100 is one of the best ways to find a trustworthy waiter. Each bar I go into I try to have a waiter that knows me and I only deal with him. Sometimes they don't stick around, especially CC seems to always have different waiters. If you pay with a $100 make sure when you hand it to the waiter he knows it's a hundred and will usually acknowledge it it with a node of the head, also be sure to look at the name or number and you could even say the name so they know you aren't clueless to who they are. So when the waiter returns with your change they will usually count it back to you but either way I count it to be sure it's correct and if so I thank them for their honesty and give them a good tip. At this time let him know that if you want anything else you will ask for him.
Usually they will come by every so often and check on you or ask you if you want a girl. I usually tell them that I'm not interested yet but when I do I will make sure to let them know so they know I will be using them to buy fichas. I know for some that don't speak Spanish this may be more difficult but most waiters said will know enough English that the 2 of you will be able to understand each other.
BrotherMouzone
01-09-23, 21:17
Giving a waiter a $100 is one of the best ways to find a trustworthy waiter. Each bar I go into I try to have a waiter that knows me and I only deal with him. Sometimes they don't stick around, especially CC seems to always have different waiters. If you pay with a $100 make sure when you hand it to the waiter he knows it's a hundred and will usually acknowledge it it with a node of the head, also be sure to look at the name or number and you could even say the name so they know you aren't clueless to who they are. So when the waiter returns with your change they will usually count it back to you but either way I count it to be sure it's correct and if so I thank them for their honesty and give them a good tip. At this time let him know that if you want anything else you will ask for him.
Usually they will come by every so often and check on you or ask you if you want a girl. I usually tell them that I'm not interested yet but when I do I will make sure to let them know so they know I will be using them to buy fichas. I know for some that don't speak Spanish this may be more difficult but most waiters said will know enough English that the 2 of you will be able to understand each other.Well I suppose finding a "trustworthy" mesero is important to you. Not so much for me as I spend 90-95% of my time in the club either sitting at the bar (as opposed to a table), or standing up and walking around. You get hounded much less by meseros if you're sitting at the bar rather than at a table which is how I prefer it. Personally not interested in getting to know any of the meseros or having them hunt down chicas for me (would much rather find the chicas I like myself) but to each his own. I'm personally not interested in handing a $100 bill to a mesero and worrying about the 5% or so chance that he might not come back or comes back and tries to give the wrong change LOL.
Well I suppose finding a "trustworthy" mesero is important to you. Not so much for me as I spend 90-95% of my time in the club either sitting at the bar (as opposed to a table), or standing up and walking around. You get hounded much less by meseros if you're sitting at the bar rather than at a table which is how I prefer it. Personally not interested in getting to know any of the meseros or having them hunt down chicas for me (would much rather find the chicas I like myself) but to each his own. I'm personally not interested in handing a $100 bill to a mesero and worrying about the 5% or so chance that he might not come back or comes back and tries to give the wrong change LOL.I'm with you. In hk other night two waiters smashed their clocks into me while I'm sitting st the bar. They couldn't go to the spot their supposed to walk to to give crap to bartender. They chose between two bar seats and I got to feel their ducks on my knees and legs. I get grossed out with men touching me. Fat guys in the club do the same thing rubning all over me. I do t want to touch these waiters I do t want them talking loud 4 inches from my face maybe giving me covid, I don't want to deal with them money wise and have to get a manager to get my money back. I sure don't need them to lock me out a girl as if I have no idea what I'm looking at.
Giving a waiter a $100 is one of the best ways to find a trustworthy waiter. Each bar I go into I try to have a waiter that knows me and I only deal with him. Sometimes they don't stick around, especially CC seems to always have different waiters.This easily takes the prize as the worst advice of 2023 posted here. LOL. As if wasting your time trying to find "trustworthy" mesero is worth it, let alone be cheated out of your cash in the process. Almost as bad as trying to find Tijuana hookers with a heart of gold to date and marry.
When it comes to meseros. Best thing you can do is minimize any interactions with these f'ckers.
Well I suppose finding a "trustworthy" mesero is important to you. Not so much for me as I spend 90-95% of my time in the club either sitting at the bar (as opposed to a table), or standing up and walking around. You get hounded much less by meseros if you're sitting at the bar rather than at a table which is how I prefer it. Personally not interested in getting to know any of the meseros or having them hunt down chicas for me (would much rather find the chicas I like myself) but to each his own. I'm personally not interested in handing a $100 bill to a mesero and worrying about the 5% or so chance that he might not come back or comes back and tries to give the wrong change LOL.I understand that I'm in the minority and enjoy sitting with a girl for hours if they are fun and interesting, so to have one waiter that I deal with makes things much easier. If your dealing with multiple waiters you will find that each one is coming buy trying to get me to buy another drink. I think this is one of the things that many on this board has discussed as well and yes it's very annoying. When I have one waiter that I am dealing with he will give me my space and occasionally stop by to check on us. Sometimes some there waiter will come by and try get me to buy a new drink for myself or the girl and I just let them know that I have a waiter that I'm working with and if I need anything I will get it from him. Most of the time the waiters will know and I'm never bugged but it happens occasionally.
If your the type to just take a girl to the room and not wanting to buy drinks I understand your point, I also enjoy picking the girl as well. Usually I will only sit at a table once I have found a girl that I'm interested in since being at the bar allows me to get a better view of everything. If you never want to trust a waiter with getting back your change for $100 I get it but I've never been taken advantage of when using the method I mentioned.
This easily takes the prize as the worst advice of 2023 posted here. LOL. As if wasting your time trying to find "trustworthy" mesero is worth it, let alone be cheated out of your cash in the process. Almost as bad as trying to find Tijuana hookers with a heart of gold to date and marry.
When it comes to meseros. Best thing you can do is minimize any interactions with these f'ckers.So do I get some type of trophy for this or is it a cash prize? Should I give an acceptance speech?
We all enjoy the Zona in different ways, in my many years of going I've always had positive experiences with waiters that I deal with and they know that I only deal with them. I've also been with other friends in the Zona and learned from them that if you treat people with respect you will get treated with respect in return. I look at it in this way, as a society we are more apt to treat a person we know better than a complete stranger.
Many on this board hate all waiters for whatever bad experiences they have had. You say it's best to minimize any interactions with them but depending on what you like to do sometimes you can't avoid them so I just provide a different strategy that has worked very well for myself and those I have spent numerous times drinking with in Tijuana. I go to Tijuana to have fun and not be concerned that everyone is going to steal from me. If you've had nothing but bad experiences with waiters I know your just set in your ways and like a person that may have negative views on a person of a certain race or religion because of a bad experience it makes you look at the entire group in that way. I'm not here to say every waiter is a good person but they aren't all criminals.
LeeroyJenkins
01-11-23, 00:23
This easily takes the prize as the worst advice of 2023 posted here. LOL. As if wasting your time trying to find "trustworthy" mesero is worth it, let alone be cheated out of your cash in the process. Almost as bad as trying to find Tijuana hookers with a heart of gold to date and marry.
When it comes to meseros. Best thing you can do is minimize any interactions with these f'ckers.I second this. I sit at the bar and drink. I tip the bartender I know the price of drinks I bring small bills, $1 $5 $10 this way no need to see if they will stiff you. It's a good control to have.
I prefer a setup where you have a big entrance fee to enter like Brazil but when you walk in there are no waiters. Nothing but girls and some security. Brazil does it right. They don't have to make a bunch on drinks because they charge 30.00 to get in. The entrance fees also keeps the broke idiots out.
ABAJoeSmith123
01-16-23, 03:17
There's always this scrawny looking black dude that walks around adelitas like a drunk homeless fool. Always goes onto the stage and tries to "dance" and dry hump with the girl performing on stage. Such a turn off. This dude would never be allowed in HK. Not sure why adelitas meseros don't kick his ass out.
On another note, the columbian wearing the cowboy thigh high boots was back and she looked incredibly hot but she got occupied with some dude in the VIP section for literally over 2 hours. Didn't wait around for her since it was taking so long. Maybe next time.
LuvMexicanas
01-17-23, 02:18
I prefer a setup where you have a big entrance fee to enter like Brazil but when you walk in there are no waiters. Nothing but girls and some security. Brazil does it right. They don't have to make a bunch on drinks because they charge 30.00 to get in. The entrance fees also keeps the broke idiots out.Hey man, I hear where you're coming from and even though my income bracket is up there, I believe in equal access to good poon. The guy breaking his back doing manual labor for not much money, of anyone, should be able to walk into the garden and partake in the bounty. Just sayin.
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Was in my hotel sat night, couldn't drink 2 days in row, couldn't eat a 4th meal need to lose weight. Nothing to do so wandered revolution and then zona Norte, went into Adelitas because I figured a could buy a soda. HK was charging entrance fee again with the free beer. I wouldn't get a bar seat on weekend so just went to Adelitas. There was a decent amount of woman at 10 pm. A lot the girls had some nice tits, a tall one looked 30 with tats all over great body pretty face. Of course the girl I had bought drinks twice in 3 weeks finds me. I would told her no drink, the 1st time she was great, fun, flirty kissing me. Bought her 6 drinks and food. The 2nd time her enthusiasm was reduced 70% so just 2 drinks and told her no to her food request. This time she sat at bar next to me ten minutes, not really flirting but said a few things, only reason I bought her 1 drink was because she didn't ask immediately. This time she drank it very slow 20 minutes as opposed to 7 minutes the other time but she wasn't touching me or flirting at all. That's been my experience, find a fun girl who remembers me but the next time she's just no fun. Its possible they were high the time I thought they were fun. One time a girl took hit weed in a room, a street girl, she was begging me for sex. I made her beg a while because I was determined to just do oral as I didn't want to touch the bed. Its nice to have a girl beg for sex once in a while.
AllAboutAss
02-02-23, 02:53
Went back to Adelitas. Couldn't find a seat at the bar did a lap. Had to brush off 3 waiters to even do that. They genuinely get angry now where is hk waiters don't take it so personal like you preventing them feeding their family. After my lap I'm standing hoping a bar stool opens up. If I sit at a table I can't talk to any woman except the ones waiters bring over. At which point I have to buy them a drink within 30 seconds, with the waiter listening to whatever we talk about for 30 seconds. Its like going on a date with a woman's brother or dad watching. That's why I never sit at tables. So some boss kept sending waiters to get me to buy a drink as I'm standing still. Every 30 seconds, I kept telling them give me 1 minute please. So I was only standing still 90 seconds without a drink and the waiter said I had to buy a drink. At this I'm like, no problem I'll leave. Then he's yelling at me for leaving. I'm thinking,. Wow bro, you just yelled at me for not being ready to buy a drink immediately now your gona yell when I'm leaving. I always buy my drinks from bartenders, this bartender is similarly annoying but the whole concept of 2 waiters for every guy monitoring your every move trying to sell you food and flowers and stuffed animals and drinks constantly. Real turn off.I love this post. Man, you think if the staff of these bars were to read all our complaints they would even care, but they would not.
We should encourage the noobs somehow to read these forums up with so much wisdom on here.
I learned a lot from you guys as a lurker.
LuvMexicanas
02-02-23, 07:30
Went back to Adelitas. Couldn't find a seat at the bar did a lap. Had to brush off 3 waiters to even do that. They genuinely get angry now where is hk waiters don't take it so personal like you preventing them feeding their family.I literally have done this exact same thing countless times. Never once has a mesero or any member of the staff expressed anger toward me. Perhaps there is something you're doing inadvertently to receive the consistent poor treatment you so often write about. I'm not being facetious.
Explorer8939
02-02-23, 07:41
I visited AB today in the early afternoon, it was dead as a doornail. Maybe 4 ladies and 2 customers.
BigButtDetecto
02-03-23, 05:01
I prefer a setup where you have a big entrance fee to enter like Brazil but when you walk in there are no waiters. Nothing but girls and some security. Brazil does it right. They don't have to make a bunch on drinks because they charge 30.00 to get in. The entrance fees also keeps the broke idiots out.I agree with you. Less meseros. The better. I miss campo allegre in Curacao that has closed; I believe; passed the entrance door, only women. No mesero to follow you like a poodle.
Why the hell would you give a waiter 100.00. Of course they won't rip you off if you give them that much. That's more than the change they try and screw you on or the 30.0 wine drinks. They are not your friends. That's why I like amnesias and Dejavu. Not as many girls but the server stands by the wall and if you need something you can call them over. I Hooked up with a 10 in amnesias last time. Got real lucky. Paid her 150 to come to my hotel. DD natural. I couldn't believe she was in there. It's always hit or miss in there. HK is a shit show. I hate the place more and more.
Hey man, I hear where you're coming from and even though my income bracket is up there, I believe in equal access to good poon. The guy breaking his back doing manual labor for not much money, of anyone, should be able to walk into the garden and partake in the bounty. Just sayin.Let the broke people go somewhere else. All they do is grab ass, don't go to the room and start shit. One reason I loved Luomo in Rio back in the day. It was a small terma but the entrance fee was high so no jerk offs and plenty of girls to choose from. The bartender was in arms length or the girl could easily walk there to get us drinks. It was an amazing place.
Adelitas has been bad lately. It smells and the quality of the girls is way down. I stopped in Monday late just to see if any diamonds in the rough and on my way out noticed the girl on stage was putting on a hell of a show to absolutely no one. There were maybe 5 customers in the entire place and none near the stage.
I sat down and gave her a few dollars and she pulled her g-string to the side to reveal a butt plug. In all my years in the zona this was a first.
She was petite and fit but small boobs and average face. 28 why / o.
I told her to come ficha with me when she was done. She got off stage sweaty and hot. I rubbed my cold beer on her neck while pushing on the plug. She quoted me $100 to go upstairs and promised me deepthroat and that she wouldn't rush me. I asked if she could come to my room at the rizo for an hour for $100 and she grabbed her google translate and told me to give her 10 minutes and then meet me outside my hotel.
She showed up as promised in street clothes. Rocked my world for an hour. Sloppy, gagging deepthroat. Didn't give me anal but let me finger her asshole while she rode me. One of the best I've ever had.
LuvMexicanas
02-04-23, 17:49
Why the hell would you give a waiter 100.00. Of course they won't rip you off if you give them that much. That's more than the change they try and screw you on or the 30.0 wine drinks. They are not your friends. That's why I like amnesias and Dejavu. Not as many girls but the server stands by the wall and if you need something you can call them over. I Hooked up with a 10 in amnesias last time. Got real lucky. Paid her 150 to come to my hotel. DD natural. I couldn't believe she was in there. It's always hit or miss in there. HK is a shit show. I hate the place more and more.Been close to four years since I've been in Amnesia. What are they charging these days for girl drinks? I do have a good memory from there when a super cute young chica gave me a BBBJ for around $30-40.
During my last trip I decided to visit the others clubs a bit. I went to Adelita during the night and saw that the place was quite alive though not as much as HK obviously.
I decided to sit down and grab a beer not intending to interact with any girl, I just wanted to see the atmosphere. Well it worked just as well as when I tried that at Tropical an hour before: I got hounded by meseros bringing girls to my table. I would tell them no but they would insist.
Finally this very hot girl sat next to me and well she broke my defenses. She spoke good english and was very flirty. After buying her a drink I decided to take my chances with her despite the original plan being that I would visit all clubs just to see what's there.
She quoted 120 and after I countered with 100, she said she would do everything except anal. And everything except anal she did. Went way over the 30 minutes and it was an amazing session.
Lesson seems to be don't discount the smaller clubs.
LuvMexicanas
02-07-23, 15:30
Let the broke people go somewhere else. All they do is grab ass, don't go to the room and start shit. One reason I loved Luomo in Rio back in the day. It was a small terma but the entrance fee was high so no jerk offs and plenty of girls to choose from. The bartender was in arms length or the girl could easily walk there to get us drinks. It was an amazing place.I guess I'm just more a man of the people and respect the common man. I have the education, cultural acumen and resources to thrive in high society circles, but at the end of the day, I'd rather be one of the fellas.
Let the broke people go somewhere else. All they do is grab ass, don't go to the room and start shit. One reason I loved Luomo in Rio back in the day. It was a small terma but the entrance fee was high so no jerk offs and plenty of girls to choose from. The bartender was in arms length or the girl could easily walk there to get us drinks. It was an amazing place.My God how I miss it so! It was one of my favorite termas in Rio. I'll never forget "Natasha". Served up the best anal sex I have ever had ever in my entire life! Nobody equal before or since! Man did that "branca" love to get cornholed! L'uomo on a Sunday afternoon (after church hahahaha) was in my favorite place to be. Thank ya Jesus for Natasha LOLOLOL!
Cocr Brotheler
02-20-23, 19:17
I should have figured she is model hot and drank her first ficha drink quickly. When the mesero inquired about a 2nd drink for her I prompted her quantos arriba and declined then she left so quickly.
After my failed SW attempt I went back in ABs and got a nice thin lanky bodied gal from Rosarito to do the deed with me for more normal cien.
I should have figured she is model hot and drank her first ficha drink quickly. When the mesero inquired about a 2nd drink for her I prompted her quantos arriba and declined then she left so quickly.
After my failed SW attempt I went back in ABs and got a nice thin lanky bodied gal from Rosarito to do the deed with me for more normal cien.Another Colombian at Adelitas charges 500 $. When it comes to Colombian it is best to have them in Colombia. The ones that move to Mexico are usually a bad deal and are trying to milk customers before they go back home.
Not sure how this place stays in business. Everytime I walk into this place they have few chicas and even fewer clients. Not sure why they spent so much on their digital billboard if you don't have the talent to keep churning rooms and alcohol sales. The only thing I can think of is the owners are laundering money since it most likely doesn't look like a profitable venture. It could be competition for HK if they added a few more stages and a lot more chicas. Not sure if their club policies ran them all away.
Not sure how this place stays in business. Everytime I walk into this place they have few chicas and even fewer clients. Not sure why they spent so much on their digital billboard if you don't have the talent to keep churning rooms and alcohol sales. The only thing I can think of is the owners are laundering money since it most likely doesn't look like a profitable venture. It could be competition for HK if they added a few more stages and a lot more chicas. Not sure if their club policies ran them all away.I agree that they have to be losing money, especially since they have that addiction to the hotel being built. The only girl I know working there at this time seems to be doing fine but she bribes the guy so she doesn't pay the ficha fine.
Not sure how this place stays in business. Everytime I walk into this place they have few chicas and even fewer clients. Not sure why they spent so much on their digital billboard if you don't have the talent to keep churning rooms and alcohol sales. The only thing I can think of is the owners are laundering money since it most likely doesn't look like a profitable venture. It could be competition for HK if they added a few more stages and a lot more chicas. Not sure if their club policies ran them all away.Typically in USA a lesser business can still do well by charging less prices. Like a McDonald's next to truths steakhouse, the McDonald's will have cheaper food options. Adelitas and all these places doesn't do that. I'm sure they are told by hk, our price is now 100, so your girls need to charge 100. Our fichas have gona up a dollar so yours need to go up a dollar. Our hotel has gona up so yours need to go up. With social media, sex chat websites, open borders in isa Canada and Europe I'm sure its hard to get woman to stay and work often in Tijuana compared to 15 yrs ago. With hk reputation, large size Adelitas may never become a top end club again. They offer much less than hk. No free drink with VIP, no easy reservation for hotel, no 2 for 1 drink coupon, no walking in and walking around without buying a drink. There's too many bars in zona Norte and not enough mem or woman. Valentina bar I think its called always empty. There's one across the side of tropicals building that I went to once it was big but kinda dead. There's another one on revulucuon 1 block south of pulls gigantic. Mostly dead. Its possible of the rule was girls can't charge more than 40 for sex that they may have twice as many guys each week in all the bars. But instead they charge USA prices. Some guys only compare hk to Vegas as if Vegas is comparable to the rest of USA. I walked into Florida lap dance room last week all the girls had ties in the guys faces. All they charge was 20 dollars. Nyc has more escorts than Tijuana. The prices in Tijuana considering its Mexico is too much.
Cocr Brotheler
02-21-23, 19:47
Another Colombian at Adelitas charges 500 $. When it comes to Colombian it is best to have them in Colombia. The ones that move to Mexico are usually a bad deal and are trying to milk customers before they go back home.Absolutely. I have had some quality of chica in a Bogota MP for 1/10th the cost = $20.
Typically in USA a lesser business can still do well by charging less prices. Like a McDonald's next to truths steakhouse, the McDonald's will have cheaper food options. Adelitas and all these places doesn't do that. I'm sure they are told by hk, our price is now 100, so your girls need to charge 100. Our fichas have gona up a dollar so yours need to go up a dollar. Our hotel has gona up so yours need to go up. With social media, sex chat websites, open borders in isa Canada and Europe I'm sure its hard to get woman to stay and work often in Tijuana compared to 15 yrs ago. With hk reputation, large size Adelitas may never become a top end club again. They offer much less than hk. No free drink with VIP, no easy reservation for hotel, no 2 for 1 drink coupon, no walking in and walking around without buying a drink. There's too many bars in zona Norte and not enough mem or woman. Valentina bar I think its called always empty. There's one across the side of tropicals building that I went to once it was big but kinda dead. There's another one on revulucuon 1 block south of pulls gigantic. Mostly dead. Its possible of the rule was girls can't charge more than 40 for sex that they may have twice as many guys each week in all the bars. But instead they charge USA prices. Some guys only compare hk to Vegas as if Vegas is comparable to the rest of USA. I walked into Florida lap dance room last week all the girls had ties in the guys faces. All they charge was 20 dollars. Nyc has more escorts than Tijuana. The prices in Tijuana considering its Mexico is too much.I agree. I don't think 100 for 30 minutes in HK, plus the room and mesero knock, is worth 200 an hour. Rather do escorts. If Adelitas got their head out of their ass and dumped all the meseros and changed to set pricing so you don't negotiate they could compete.
Nyc has more escorts than Tijuana. The prices in Tijuana considering its Mexico is too much.Well I hope NYC has more escorts than Tijuana look at how many more people it has. Also from a contact of mine NYC has had a flood of sex workers that came to the US claiming asylum. So with the market getting flooded it will keep prices down. Even though NYC is more expensive than Tijuana if you can get enough people into a house it's not to bad.
I'm not sure what other parts of Mexico you have gone to but from my experience the price in Tijuana for an 7 or above is about the same. You might get to spend a little less on some escorts but most aren't that attractive IMO. Also with the large increase of Americans now living in Tijuana you really need to imagine SD and Tijuana being almost one city, at least that's what they are trying to do with the pressure of making it faster to cross into each city.
ABAJoeSmith123
02-22-23, 06:39
I agree. I don't think 100 for 30 minutes in HK, plus the room and mesero knock, is worth 200 an hour. Rather do escorts. If Adelitas got their head out of their ass and dumped all the meseros and changed to set pricing so you don't negotiate they could compete.Yeah, adelitas is dying. The girls are mostly ugly / fat / old. The dancers are not attractive and are very infrequent so you're just looking at an empty stage. The stage at the back isn't even used. I always give adelitas a chance but literall sit there for 2 hours and don't see a single chica worth going arriba with. The one columbian chick that wears stripper boots with big tits that is hot charges $150. Wtf. LOL. She wasn't anythign spectacular arriba either. The hotel itself is also kinda run down and it alwas feels uncomfortable walking to the rooms with all these low life janitor thugs standing in the hallways seeing you go into a room.
Adelitas used to be a hotspot with tons of talent. It literally is a ghost of it's old self now. No hot girls. No customers. Nothing. It isn't competing with HK at all anymore. The girls at HK sooooo much more attractive and the hotel is nice and there's plenty of women of all types. No reason at all to go to adelitas anymore.
Yeah, adelitas is dying. The girls are mostly ugly / fat / old. The dancers are not attractive and are very infrequent so you're just looking at an empty stage. The stage at the back isn't even used. I always give adelitas a chance but literall sit there for 2 hours and don't see a single chica worth going arriba with. The one columbian chick that wears stripper boots with big tits that is hot charges $150. Wtf. LOL. She wasn't anythign spectacular arriba either. The hotel itself is also kinda run down and it alwas feels uncomfortable walking to the rooms with all these low life janitor thugs standing in the hallways seeing you go into a room.
Adelitas used to be a hotspot with tons of talent. It literally is a ghost of it's old self now. No hot girls. No customers. Nothing. It isn't competing with HK at all anymore. The girls at HK sooooo much more attractive and the hotel is nice and there's plenty of women of all types. No reason at all to go to adelitas anymore.If you want to enjoy Adelitas, you need to go after 10 pm on Friday and Saturday nights only. You have to time your visits when the best girls come to work. Other than those hot hours, Adelitas is waste of time like almost every other bar.
ABAJoeSmith123
02-23-23, 08:00
If you want to enjoy Adelitas, you need to go after 10 pm on Friday and Saturday nights only. You have to time your visits when the best girls come to work. Other than those hot hours, Adelitas is waste of time like almost every other bar.Yeah been there after 10 pm on Friday / Saturday. It's still TERRIBLE. I can only imagine how much worse it is on the other days. There used to be one very hot girl named karen with big soft tits on a skinny body. She transitioned over to HK but I think she has since quit that place too. She was hot as hell and probably got banged by way too many men each shift, making her career quite short.
I know Adelita's gets a bit of crap on this board but I have actually had a few good sessions there. Paola is an older Venezuelan girl I am guessing in her mid-thirties but in good shape and amazing in bed that I had about two weeks ago. I nicknamed her La Jefa as she was bossing the meseros around and I had a great time with her. 5 stars, recommend.I think that girl moved to Chicago. She has a tattoo of a Phoenix if we are talking about the same Chic. Total GFE with Fake boobs but really beautiful for a girl in mid thirty's. I have not seen her in a while but one of the better ones.
Yeah been there after 10 pm on Friday / Saturday. It's still TERRIBLE. I can only imagine how much worse it is on the other days. There used to be one very hot girl named karen with big soft tits on a skinny body. She transitioned over to HK but I think she has since quit that place too. She was hot as hell and probably got banged by way too many men each shift, making her career quite short.They used to have some cute Venezuelans, but now it just looks depressing and on top of that the DJ was playing Creep from Radiohead.
BrotherMouzone
02-23-23, 22:33
As of right now (as I'm posting Thursday afternoon) Adelita's is still closed from yesterday's raid from what I'm hearing. Stickers posted on the doors by local authorities indicating the place is still closed. Might take a few days to open back up but now sure. HK and the other clubs still up and running from what I understand.
https://www.elimparcial.com/tijuana/tijuana/Clausuran-el-bar-Adelitas-de-la-Zona-Norte-tras-operativo-de-FGR-y-Semar-20230223-0013.html
So now (2:30 pm Thursday) more information is coming out and since it only involves AB I'm just going to keep it in this thread. Now the news is saying that a female came to the authorities telling them that she was basically being forced to work in the bar with no freedom. Seems a little vague but it's still early. So the authorities raided the bar and confiscated items in the office including the video surveillance tapes. Some reports also mentioned tax evasion and trafficking.
So I wouldn't plan on AB being open anytime soon as a few employees were taken into custody including the general manager one report said. Other reports I read didn't mention some of these details so this early I would just wait and see what really happens. If any of you had a fav that worked in Ab I'm sure you can get a good price for them to see you at a Tijuana motel.
Since I was looking at multiple articles I'm not going to post each link here but all I did to find the info was did a search "noticias Adelitas Tijuana" and you can find multiple articles about it you just need to translate them.
As of right now (as I'm posting Thursday afternoon) Adelita's is still closed from yesterday's raid from what I'm hearing. Stickers posted on the doors by local authorities indicating the place is still closed. Might take a few days to open back up but now sure. HK and the other clubs still up and running from what I understand.Does anyone know what the raid was about?
Does anyone know what the raid was about?You can place the link to the article I posted in Google translate.
Does anyone know what the raid was about?Does it really matter, it happens all the time. Just carry on and get some pussy.
Does it really matter, it happens all the time. Just carry on and get some pussy.Just like to know where to get mine. I like to keep I got a regular there, who can suck a golf ball through a straw. Though I have other too and looking for new ones, just like to keep my option open.
As of right now (as I'm posting Thursday afternoon) Adelita's is still closed from yesterday's raid from what I'm hearing. Stickers posted on the doors by local authorities indicating the place is still closed. Might take a few days to open back up but now sure. HK and the other clubs still up and running from what I understand.Yesterday, Monday, Adelita was closed. The driver from HK Zona Shuttle said that in Mexico if the local police closes the place, you can negotiate the old-fashioned way (bribe) and the place is open again. But if the place is closed down by the federal authorities (like Adelita) then it's very serious. Adelita may be locked up for a long time. (or maybe Hong Kong will buy Adelita and also........ the church next door hehehe).
BrotherMouzone
03-01-23, 17:22
Yesterday, Monday, Adelita was closed. The driver from HK Zona Shuttle said that in Mexico if the local police closes the place, you can negotiate the old-fashioned way (bribe) and the place is open again. But if the place is closed down by the federal authorities (like Adelita) then it's very serious. Adelita may be locked up for a long time. (or maybe Hong Kong will buy Adelita and also........ the church next door hehehe).Yeah, that's what I'm thinking unfortunately. That Adelitas will be down for a long while. If it was just a matter of dealing with local authorities they could probably just pay their way out of it (as I'm sure they've done several times in the past) but the federales being involved is a whole 'nother story. I mean I guess if you have enough money and / or know the right people in the Mexican federal government you could pay your way out of even this (e. G. , big drug cartels / El Chapo have bought influence at the federal level).
But Adelitas is essentially a "mom and pop" shop (albeit a very popular, well-known one, even if they are struggling right now) so probably don't have the resources to have that kind of influence at the federal level. Will say that I am speculating a bit here, but it does seem more and more like Adelitas will be shut down for a long while at this point. Definitely have sympathy for all the chicas that are just trying to support their families. Hope everything works out and that they find jobs at other clubs if they need to.
ABAJoeSmith123
03-02-23, 03:03
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking unfortunately. That Adelitas will be down for a long while. If it was just a matter of dealing with local authorities they could probably just pay their way out of it (as I'm sure they've done several times in the past) but the federales being involved is a whole 'nother story. I mean I guess if you have enough money and / or know the right people in the Mexican federal government you could pay your way out of even this (e. G. , big drug cartels / El Chapo have bought influence at the federal level).
But Adelitas is essentially a "mom and pop" shop (albeit a very popular, well-known one, even if they are struggling right now) so probably don't have the resources to have that kind of influence at the federal level. Will say that I am speculating a bit here, but it does seem more and more like Adelitas will be shut down for a long while at this point. Definitely have sympathy for all the chicas that are just trying to support their families. Hope everything works out and that they find jobs at other clubs if they need to.The girls can just go work at HK where they will make more money too. People taking girls to the hotel nonstop there like a factory conveyor belt. It always puzzles me why girls still work at adelitas when they could be doing so much better at HK. I imagine it is financially painful at adelitas to spend 12 hours there and only get maybe 1 arriba session as a chica.
Aviator400
03-02-23, 17:29
The girls can just go work at HK where they will make more money too. People taking girls to the hotel nonstop there like a factory conveyor belt. It always puzzles me why girls still work at adelitas when they could be doing so much better at HK. I imagine it is financially painful at adelitas to spend 12 hours there and only get maybe 1 arriba session as a chica.I have met several former HK girls at AB and CC, and one who went back to the alley because they hated the strict rules at HK. Some have also said they hated the general abuse, such as being told that they are too fat or their clients being treated poorly and being driven off by things like the $30 wine scam or being limited to less than 60 minutes in the room.
One was fired from HK for reasons unknown and told that she could come back in 12 months. She went to work at AB and two months later they asked her to come back to HK. She declined. She said that she doesn't make as much money at AB, but both the clientele and the management are more mature and less abusive. And she said that all her costumes are locked up in AB. She is getting work at CC, but is not too happy about it.
BrotherMouzone
03-02-23, 18:37
A long-time chica at Adelitas is telling me that the reopening of Adelitas MIGHT be imminent (maybe even as early as today). She said the lights were back on outside for the club advertisements and that workers were cleaning up inside. Still just a rumor (and might just be moreso wishful thinking on her part) but we'll see. Heard some other details (more speculation, though she seems confident) from another chica who's worked at both Adelitas and HK on why Adelitas closed. I'll try to post those details later today.
I have met several former HK girls at AB and CC, and one who went back to the alley because they hated the strict rules at HK. Some have also said they hated the general abuse, such as being told that they are too fat or their clients being treated poorly and being driven off by things like the $30 wine scam or being limited to less than 60 minutes in the room.
One was fired from HK for reasons unknown and told that she could come back in 12 months. She went to work at AB and two months later they asked her to come back to HK. She declined. She said that she doesn't make as much money at AB, but both the clientele and the management are more mature and less abusive. And she said that all her costumes are locked up in AB. She is getting work at CC, but is not too happy about it.HK chicas tell me that they resent being controlled by the waiters who act like pimps by telling the girls who to go with and not go with. The dislike being handled to customers. They dislike some of the bullshit drink and VP games. They dislike the fucking scams played on their customers. They generally dislike the pimp waiter mafia.
They also hate the HK fee to work at HK (yes, the girls pay HK $100 for paper work when they start to work at HK or coming back from an extended vacation). And they think HK management are fools.
Some have also said they hated the general abuse, such as being told that they are too fat or their clients being treated poorly and being driven off by things like the $30 wine scam or being limited to less than 60 minutes in the room.Putas concerned that their clients are charged expensive drinks? That's a new one! And I thought I've seen everything here.
LightMan1988
03-04-23, 19:10
A long-time chica at Adelitas is telling me that the reopening of Adelitas MIGHT be imminent (maybe even as early as today). She said the lights were back on outside for the club advertisements and that workers were cleaning up inside. Still just a rumor (and might just be moreso wishful thinking on her part) but we'll see. Heard some other details (more speculation, though she seems confident) from another chica who's worked at both Adelitas and HK on why Adelitas closed. I'll try to post those details later today.Any details? PM open.
Any details? PM open.Its funny, most people crack jokes about adelitas and complain about it. But so many guys want details on what's going on with it.
Baxter Slade
03-05-23, 02:45
HK chicas tell me that they resent being controlled by the waiters who act like pimps by telling the girls who to go with and not go with. The dislike being handled to customers. They dislike some of the bullshit drink and VP games. They dislike the fucking scams played on their customers. They generally dislike the pimp waiter mafia.
They also hate the HK fee to work at HK (yes, the girls pay HK $100 for paper work when they start to work at HK or coming back from an extended vacation). And they think HK management are fools.Wow it seems like they dislike many things associated with the job. I wonder how they feel about getting fucked?
BrotherMouzone
03-05-23, 08:40
Any details? PM open.Well it's nothing definite about why Adelitas closed (one thing I've learned since that unfortunate murder of that girl by the former Rutgers basketball player a couple years ago is that these girls like to gossip and spread rumors which a lot of times are inaccurate) but she seems confident.
So I asked an HK chica I'm friendly with who's worked at both HK and Adelitas if she could confirm whether Adelitas closed because of all the illegal, non-Mexican chicas working there (which is what I'd been hearing) and this was her verbatim response:
"Son ilegales pero él pagaba por tenerlas ahí. Así que tampoco*es*eso. El dueño del adelitas es un empresario muy rico tiene más empresas. Adelitas es quien menos*LE*daba*dinero. Como te dije otra persona millonaria lo quería fuera*de*tijuana. ".
So she's basically saying that Adelitas did have a bunch of foreign girls in the club but the owner of Adelitas was paying off the right people so everything had always been good there. So the foreign girls aren't the real issue. She says the owner of Adelitas is a millionaire businessman who runs several other businesses but that it's another millionaire businessman that wants him out of Tijuana, which is why what happened at Adelitas happened. The chica mentioned that for the businessman who owns Adelitas, Adelitas doesn't make him as much money as his other businesses (so was intimating that he'd be less inclined to try to "save" the club given the current pressure it's facing from the federal government).
She also wrote in an earlier text that she didn't think there were any minors working in the club, as had been getting reported in the news.
So then I asked her if the "other millionaire businessman" who got Adelitas closed and was trying to run the owner out of Tijuana owned HK and if he was trying to get Adelitas closed to eliminate the competition. This was her response:
"No es el dueño pero si tiene amistad con LOS*dueños. Juntos lo hicieron de undir al dueño del*adelitas. ".
So she's saying that the "other millionaire" who got Adelitas closed doesn't own HK but that he is friendly with those owners and that together they are trying to run the owner of Adelitas out of business.
Again, don't know how true all this is. Just repeating here what the chica told me and she seemed pretty confident about it. So you can make your own judgement. I will say that one of my first thoughts when Adelitas first closed was that HK had to be involved somehow so this does kind of make sense to me. But I have no clue who any of the "millionaire owners" are that she's referring to or what any of the back story might be there. Might ask her about the details of that when I see her in person next month.
Aviator400
03-05-23, 15:46
Putas concerned that their clients are charged expensive drinks? That's a new one! And I thought I've seen everything here.The concern is that she orders a $10 drink and the meseros bring a $30 drink, pissing off their clients. If he is unhappy, she is less likely to score an arriba where she makes the big money.
Wow it seems like they dislike many things associated with the job. I wonder how they feel about getting fucked?The chicas say they like fucking guys who are they see as friends or potential boyfriends. They dislike drunk customers the most because those guys can be unpredictable and violent.
BTW, Adelitas remain closed as of Saturday. The front looks sad because they stopped running their electronic billboard, which is kinda a Tijuana icon. Kinda like when the Dunes hotel closed down in Vegas. I saw three guys at the front door for the longest time. Cannot tell if they were just hanging around, or working security duties.
Well it's nothing definite about why Adelitas closed (one thing I've learned since that unfortunate murder of that girl by the former Rutgers basketball player a couple years ago is that these girls like to gossip and spread rumors which a lot of times are inaccurate) but she seems confident.
So I asked an HK chica I'm friendly with who's worked at both HK and Adelitas if she could confirm whether Adelitas closed because of all the illegal, non-Mexican chicas working there (which is what I'd been hearing) and this was her verbatim response:
"Son ilegales pero l pagaba por tenerlas ah. As que tampoco*es*eso. El dueo del adelitas es un empresario muy rico tiene ms empresas. Adelitas es quien menos*LE*daba*dinero. Como te dije otra persona millonaria lo quera fuera*de*tijuana. ".
So she's basically saying that Adelitas did have a bunch of foreign girls in the club but the owner of Adelitas was paying off the right people so everything had always been good there. So the foreign girls aren't the real issue. She says the owner of Adelitas is a millionaire businessman who runs several other businesses but that it's another millionaire businessman that wants him out of Tijuana, which is why what happened at Adelitas happened. The chica mentioned that for the businessman who owns Adelitas, Adelitas doesn't make him as much money as his other businesses (so was intimating that he'd be less inclined to try to "save" the club given the current pressure it's facing from the federal government).
She also wrote in an earlier text that she didn't think there were any minors working in the club, as had been getting reported in the news.
So then I asked her if the "other millionaire businessman" who got Adelitas closed and was trying to run the owner out of Tijuana owned HK and if he was trying to get Adelitas closed to eliminate the competition. This was her response:
"No es el dueo pero si tiene amistad con LOS*dueos. Juntos lo hicieron de undir al dueo del*adelitas. ".
So she's saying that the "other millionaire" who got Adelitas closed doesn't own HK but that he is friendly with those owners and that together they are trying to run the owner of Adelitas out of business.
Again, don't know how true all this is. Just repeating here what the chica told me and she seemed pretty confident about it. So you can make your own judgement. I will say that one of my first thoughts when Adelitas first closed was that HK had to be involved somehow so this does kind of make sense to me. But I have no clue who any of the "millionaire owners" are that she's referring to or what any of the back story might be there. Might ask her about the details of that when I see her in person next month.Othwr guys know the business model of these places. Do you think this is realistic? Is hk getting extorted from so many angles that it can't make a profit unless adelitas closes? What about Gloria bar and the other clubs in the alley? My 1st assumption, any business that can pull in what hk pulls in, would be as foolish to risk messing up a great business cash cow. As foolish as that morant basketball star are with.
His gun play. Whose career will be over very soon. But then again, we all know how business ceos think. "each year needs to be increased profits, competition needs to be bought out whenever possible, business needs to expand).
Cocr Brotheler
03-06-23, 02:20
The chicas say they like fucking guys who are they see as friends or potential boyfriends. They dislike drunk customers the most because those guys can be unpredictable and violent.
BTW, Adelitas remain closed as of Saturday. The front looks sad because they stopped running their electronic billboard, which is kinda a Tijuana icon. Kinda like when the Dunes hotel closed down in Vegas. I saw three guys at the front door for the longest time. Cannot tell if they were just hanging around, or working security duties.Is the associated hotel closed also? I liked it and stayed there one night a couple weeks ago. It was clean and with new bed spread and mattress.
Is the associated hotel closed also? I liked it and stayed there one night a couple weeks ago. It was clean and with new bed spread and mattress.Taped and closed off.
Funny, but there are guys guarding the entrance to Adelitas at all hours.
I got to admit, it would be fun to break in with a favorite chica and have sex on the main stage.
Taped and closed off.
I know someone that has kept a room there for over 20 years. I wonder if they kicked him out.
PochoMonger
03-08-23, 03:00
Taped and closed off.
Funny, but there are guys guarding the entrance to Adelitas at all hours.
I got to admit, it would be fun to break in with a favorite chica and have sex on the main stage.The guard is there and often take break to eat and also walk on the alley. Wonder if you can go to AB somehow entering from Valentine, wasnt Valentina Bar one of the bars of the AB owner?
Is the associated hotel closed also? I liked it and stayed there one night a couple weeks ago. It was clean and with new bed spread and mattress.Tuesday evening March 7 - Adelita closed, hotel next door closed. Also Valentina in the alley closed. According to chica from Hong Kong, Adelita may be closed for a long time because of money laundering and other crimes.
Baxter Slade
03-09-23, 05:47
The guard is there and often take break to eat and also walk on the alley. Wonder if you can go to AB somehow entering from Valentine, wasnt Valentina Bar one of the bars of the AB owner?Yes AB and valentina bar have a walkway that connects them. I was down there the day after Adelitas was shut down and surprised to see Valentinas open. I stuck my head in there expecting to find a good chunk of the AB girls working there. But the place was pretty empty as usual.
I guess at some point the federales figured out they are connected (same owners) and I hear Valentinas I has also been closed down.
Cocr Brotheler
03-09-23, 06:11
Tuesday evening March 7 - Adelita closed, hotel next door closed. Also Valentina in the alley closed. According to chica from Hong Kong, Adelita may be closed for a long time because of money laundering and other crimes.The chica I went with Sunday 26 Feb from AB knew what was about to happen. After finishing with her as I say to many but not all 'See You Next Time'. She said back 'Probably Not' which I interpreted she not want to session with me again or leaving the biz. Now I understand what she said unfortunately. I loved that chill, cozy, clean (to me) hotel to bring SWs into and occasional AB gals. Almost every trip since 2015 I always bought a day room there. Man now all we have are cheap bed bug and roach infested hotels or expensive ones in Rio and Cascadas. Via Puebla, Oaxaca y Monterrey! I am starting to set my sights elsewhere.
BrotherMouzone
03-10-23, 15:40
Got one Adelitas chica I've known for a long while sending me her OnlyFans and Instagram for accounts she just started up with another (non-Mexican) chica from Adelitas having just moved over to Chicago. So kinda feels like Adelitas will be closed for a long while.
The chica I went with Sunday 26 Feb from AB knew what was about to happen. After finishing with her as I say to many but not all 'See You Next Time'. She said back 'Probably Not' which I interpreted she not want to session with me again or leaving the biz. Now I understand what she said unfortunately. I loved that chill, cozy, clean (to me) hotel to bring SWs into and occasional AB gals. Almost every trip since 2015 I always bought a day room there. Man now all we have are cheap bed bug and roach infested hotels or expensive ones in Rio and Cascadas. Via Puebla, Oaxaca y Monterrey! I am starting to set my sights elsewhere.I also liked Adelitas hotel. No pat downs searxh my bags. One time I had a hk hotel Cascades and a Tijuana friend wanted to sleep with me. Cascades wouldn't let her in. I had to go next door to get us a room but at least at the time Adelitas was 20 dollars Mon. Through wed. So I was paying 33 altogether for 2 hotels. You would think that was in the 1970's at those prices but no it was about 4 to 5 years ago. I just don't like Adelitas sheets. They have urine sex looking stains. So I cs t tell of they are clean or dirty and then have to ask for a new sheet if I did bring my own. But 95% of the time in any Tijuana hotel I have 1 clean sheet that I use to cover me when sleeping as well to mostly not touch any sheets, and a bed pillow case, and pillow cover. And travel towels.
Why has Hacienda Bar also been shut down these past few days?
Didn't know whether to post this in here or the Chicago thread but I passed by Chicago a little while ago and several of the Adelitas girls are working there now. It was more packed than what I expected. Almost every booth taken and some in the back too. Saw a wild tatted up chick that goes by Ashley I banged back in November I think sitting at the bar. I was only passing by before I headed back to the border and didn't really have time to hang out.
To my surprise there was a long ass line to cross back on foot around this time (10 pm). Figured I might as well post an update to kill some time.
Hong Kong was pretty slow for a Sunday night. Scouted a couple girls and made mental notes to invite them for some fichas next time around.
I'm guessing this line is going to take me around 45 minutes more or less. Should've hung out at the bars for a while longer.
Tuesday evening March 7 - Adelita closed, hotel next door closed. Also Valentina in the alley closed. According to chica from Hong Kong, Adelita may be closed for a long time because of money laundering and other crimes.Tuesday March 14. Adelita bar and hotel still closed.
I wonder if HK owners will buy Adelita's possibly?
Tuesday March 14. Adelita bar and hotel still closed.
BigButtDetecto
03-17-23, 00:08
I wonder if HK owners will buy Adelita's possibly?As stated before in the the thread, hk is waiting for adelita's to go bankrupt and buy it. Hk has a lot of money and they probably bribe the officials for them not to reopen adelitas. Adelitas doesn't have enough clout in the mexican government.
Does anyone know who owns HK bar. I heard there is many partners that own it? I personally believe that many of the bars in the Zona are owned by the cartels and are money laundering operations. It is hard to justify how much many of the clubs like Desa have spent on the signs and fronts of the building!!
As stated before in the the thread, hk is waiting for adelita's to go bankrupt and buy it. Hk has a lot of money and they probably bribe the officials for them not to reopen adelitas. Adelitas doesn't have enough clout in the mexican government.
Does anyone know who owns HK bar. I heard there is many partners that own it? I personally believe that many of the bars in the Zona are owned by the cartels and are money laundering operations. It is hard to justify how much many of the clubs like Desa have spent on the signs and fronts of the building!!I hear that two brothers, one owns HK and the other Tropical. I suspect that they own managing share in the bars rather than sole ownership. Considering that it's a cash business, it would be improbable that the cartels aren't using it to launder cash one way or another.
I wonder if HK owners will buy Adelita's possibly?It's possible HK can buy Adelita club, hotel and.... that church in between. (Girls will be a convenient place to confess all their sins hehehe). But I think competition with the Hong Kong club would be good if Adelita had a different owner, different music, different girls, different drinks and prices etc. I'm also curious what will happen next with Adelita.
Does anyone know who owns HK bar. I heard there is many partners that own it? I personally believe that many of the bars in the Zona are owned by the cartels and are money laundering operations. It is hard to justify how much many of the clubs like Desa have spent on the signs and fronts of the building!!Brizuela Family?
It's possible HK can buy Adelita club, hotel and.... that church in between. (Girls will be a convenient place to confess all their sins hehehe). But I think competition with the Hong Kong club would be good if Adelita had a different owner, different music, different girls, different drinks and prices etc. I'm also curious what will happen next with Adelita.Well like you said it would be good if things were different. But the issue is all the bars follow Hong Kong lead. So it doesn't really matter what happnes to adelitas. Its not as if the guys were getting cheaper fichas, beers, or sex. The day hk raises prices in fich or sex, all the bars follow through within 34 minutes. The woman in adelitas are good enough to work in hk. Yes they are not as hot over all but all the woman in adelitas would be as good looking as hk bottom 20%. The bigger issue to me was las chavelas closing. Because that place had cubbies girls cheaper sex less pushy waiters. And you got to use the hk hotel. So them closing was definitely a loss of fun in Zona Norte. But look how many guys fill up all these places, hk, las chacelas, hk expansion. Where the hell did these people come from? 6 yrs ago they weren't hear and nobody was in Chicago club. Seems like two to 3 times as many guys go down to zona now compared to 6 years ago.
SomeDude321
03-19-23, 05:13
The bigger issue to me was las chavelas closing. Because that place had cubbies girls cheaper sex less pushy waiters. And you got to use the hk hotel. So them closing was definitely a loss of fun in Zona Norte. But look how many guys fill up all these places, hk, las chacelas, hk expansion. Where the hell did these people come from? 6 yrs ago they weren't hear and nobody was in Chicago club. Seems like two to 3 times as many guys go down to zona now compared to 6 years ago.When was Las Chavela acquired by HK? Before the pandemic I would occasionally go two ZN like twice a year when flying out of Tijuana airport, and from what I recall, it was still it's own, independent entity. After the jab became available, I headed down just to get the poison out and Chavelas had come a part of HK.
When was Las Chavela acquired by HK? .It has always been of the HK group, just like Tropical and Malquerida.
It has always been of the HK group, just like Tropical and Malquerida.I think they own most of the bars in Tijuana. I've seen HK buckets in Siete de Copa, Latinos bar, and a few others. It always surprised me seeing the HK buckets in these various clubs.
Cocr Brotheler
03-19-23, 18:44
"Seems like two to 3 times as many guys go down to zona now compared to 6 years ago."
I very sincerely believe (someone may diagree) that due to the pandemic and not being able to fly anywhere for awhile + all the restrictions on flying when air travel started back that Tijuana Zona became discovered. What fly half way around the world or even to CR or CO when it is right there in the backyard close, relatively safe and with top talent for low dinero?
And now with inflation and airfares so high adds even more demand there.
GentileBear
03-19-23, 23:11
I mostly agree. And some of us "rediscovered" Tijuana after being denied Asian pussy for 3 years. IMO BBFS is probably the main reason people like me go to Asia instead of Tijuana. That and 85 pound spinners and thus variety of pussy abroad. Next is cost which is also very painful now. Including opportunity costs. Asia needs about 10 day min commitment. More usually 2 or 3 weeks. And Tijuana can be done on a weekend.
"Seems like two to 3 times as many guys go down to zona now compared to 6 years ago."
I very sincerely believe (someone may diagree) that due to the pandemic and not being able to fly anywhere for awhile + all the restrictions on flying when air travel started back that Tijuana Zona became discovered. What fly half way around the world or even to CR or CO when it is right there in the backyard close, relatively safe and with top talent for low dinero?
And now with inflation and airfares so high adds even more demand there.
Explorer8939
03-20-23, 01:06
When was Las Chavela acquired by HK? Before the pandemic I would occasionally go two ZN like twice a year when flying out of Tijuana airport, and from what I recall, it was still it's own, independent entity. After the jab became available, I headed down just to get the poison out and Chavelas had come a part of HK.Chavelas has been part of the HK chain since the last century. There used to be 3 bars in the area, all owned by the same family: HK, Las Chavelas and Miami bar.
SomeDude321
03-20-23, 01:31
I mostly agree. And some of us "rediscovered" Tijuana after being denied Asian pussy for 3 years. IMO BBFS is probably the main reason people like me go to Asia instead of Tijuana. That and 85 pound spinners and thus variety of pussy abroad. Next is cost which is also very painful now. Including opportunity costs. Asia needs about 10 day min commitment. More usually 2 or 3 weeks. And Tijuana can be done on a weekend.I concur. Fall-out of the pandemic; with no real or dating options or mingling (a chick proposed a zoom date once. Nope! I rediscovered ZN and started to frequent more regularly to get the poison out. I even managed to notice the increase of number of people. And beforehand, I was only a casual visitor.
BigButtDetecto
03-24-23, 05:00
Infortunately ADELITAS bar is still closed today; I bet they did not bribed the officials enough.
I concur. Fall-out of the pandemic; with no real or dating options or mingling (a chick proposed a zoom date once. Nope! I rediscovered ZN and started to frequent more regularly to get the poison out. I even managed to notice the increase of number of people. And beforehand, I was only a casual visitor.I opted for Demonican Republic, Land of the Big Boobs, 6 X during the covid bullshit. An apt choice. Those chicas were HUNGRY! Cheers.
Infortunately ADELITAS bar is still closed today; I bet they did not bribed the officials enough.A veteran chica at HK told me word amongst those in the know is that Adelitas will be closed for several more months.
No idea if it's true but she seemed pretty sure of it when she told me.
BigButtDetecto
04-01-23, 00:36
A veteran chica at HK told me word amongst those in the know is that Adelitas will be closed for several more months.
No idea if it's true but she seemed pretty sure of it when she told me.Adelita is still close today. A bouncer told me may be next week; a mesero at HK told me they shut them down because of the colombianas and venezolanas worked there. Pathetic like Labrador who was in Tijuana today.
A veteran chica at HK told me word amongst those in the know is that Adelitas will be closed for several more months.
No idea if it's true but she seemed pretty sure of it when she told me.If they open ever again, after months. How bad are the maseros gona be? I wouldn't even want to walk in for at least 5 months after they open. Even during covid they still had their hotel bar and job opprtunities. Mexixo is very strict with hiring foreigners without working papers. In fact most countries are only isa encourages it.
BigButtDetecto
04-01-23, 22:51
If they open ever again, after months. How bad are the maseros gona be? I wouldn't even want to walk in for at least 5 months after they open. Even during covid they still had their hotel bar and job opprtunities. Mexixo is very strict with hiring foreigners without working papers. In fact most countries are only isa encourages it.They are not that strict for the narcos though.
Captain Solo
04-06-23, 02:48
Employing foreigners without proper work permits is a serious federal offense in Mexico, even more serious if the Feds suspect trafficking girls or minors for prostitution.
Larry of Nikki's bar was arrested and charged with both crimes, locked up a few years in fed prison in CDMX awaiting trial.
Waiting to find out what offenses Adelita's owners and managers are charged with.
MongerSocal
04-06-23, 19:24
Employing foreigners without proper work permits is a serious federal offense in Mexico, even more serious if the Feds suspect trafficking girls or minors for prostitution.
Larry of Nikki's bar was arrested and charged with both crimes, locked up a few years in fed prison in CDMX awaiting trial.
Waiting to find out what offenses Adelita's owners and managers are charged with.I heard from a contact Adelitas has new owners. However, still don't know when it will open up again.
Employing foreigners without proper work permits is a serious federal offense in Mexico, even more serious if the Feds suspect trafficking girls or minors for prostitution.
Larry of Nikki's bar was arrested and charged with both crimes, locked up a few years in fed prison in CDMX awaiting trial.
Waiting to find out what offenses Adelita's owners and managers are charged with.Its amazing the laws these other countries have. Can't work here if your not here legally. Can't buy houses and business here if your not here with correct authorization. If you commit crime and are deported you have to pay the flight! What a country! I love mexixo.
BrotherMouzone
04-08-23, 15:07
Employing foreigners without proper work permits is a serious federal offense in Mexico, even more serious if the Feds suspect trafficking girls or minors for prostitution.
Very true, but Adelitas had been doing this for years and years and years with no recourse as I guess they'd been paying off the right people. To my understanding Chicago also hires foreign girls. The HK and HK-affiliated clubs do not.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CqjmfCHpeVX/?igshid=ZWIzMWE5ZmU3Zg==
When q govt makes a decision to put any business out of business. They gona find something. It can be something that's evena huge stretch. Look at Donald Trump. All the many millions Biden makes off foreign govts through his kids, and the democrats are putting Trump in prison because. He filled out his business accountant forms with some small $150 k money put into the wrong column. As if there's a American who hasn't also done creative accountant at tax time. Do you think the mariot in Tijuana would be closed if a worker was found to be involved in a drug trade of some sort? Or the owner met with some criminal. At the Marriott? Someone wanted qdelitas closed and then the govt makes the case to close it. Which is why I've been saying for 8 yrs, having seen Giuliani shut down nyc sex stores, I would expect someday someone to do same with Tijuana. Tijuana has so much $$ flowing through it they don't need the sex bars. 80% of that $$ is going to girls who don't live in Tijuana or the owners who don't live in Tijuana.
GentileBear
04-10-23, 01:22
https://www.instagram.com/p/CqjmfCHpeVX/?igshid=ZWIzMWE5ZmU3Zg==April Fools Joke I presume?! Regarding the headline about China? I call bullshit. And it isn't funny.
[QUOTETijuanahassomuch $$flowingthroughittheydon'tneedthesexbars. 80%ofthat $$isgoingtogirlswhodon'tliveinTijuanaortheownerswhodon'tliveinTijuana. ]QUOTE].
My near rookie opinion is that if all the sex bars closed and street walkers no longer tolerated, the Tijuana tourism would almost dry up. I am also of the opinion that if all the street walkers were no longer leaning against the buildings, the buildings would all fall down.
BrotherMouzone
04-19-23, 20:19
In Tijuana now. Way too many theories from the chicas about why Adelitas closed so am going to give up at this point LOL. Had a girl today tell me she heard some chicas at Adelitas robbed a client who happened to be very high up in the Tijuanense government so set things forth in motion to have the bar closed. Another girl repeated the rumors about Adelitas having minors. Personally don't believe either.
In Tijuana now. Way too many theories from the chicas about why Adelitas closed so am going to give up at this point LOL. Had a girl today tell me she heard some chicas at Adelitas robbed a client who happened to be very high up in the Tijuanense government so set things forth in motion to have the bar closed. Another girl repeated the rumors about Adelitas having minors. Personally don't believe either.I haven't been to Tijuana in few months, but if I was still going regularly Adelitas being closed would really bother me. Not cause I need Adelitas but because on Thurs through Sunday nights that's an extra 70 to 130 guys spread out to each of the other big clubs. I actually walked out of Chicago 3 months ago because I couldn't find a seat in the whole place.
The guy at the front door said he thought they would reopen in about two weeks.
One of my chica friends just sent this to me. Inspections going down this weekend.
One of my chica friends just sent this to me. Inspections going down this weekend.Let me see if my Spanish is working. It translates to:
Today, the owners of the Adelitas cartel agreed to increase their bribes of Tijuana officials. Both sides agreed that the upcoming recession and the effects of inflation is too much to bear alone.
One of my chica friends just sent this to me. Inspections going down this weekend.It's the same thing I was talking about in my post in the General section. Government officials will be making sure bars and nightclubs aren't open past what they are allowed. I think HK is supposed to close at 5 am. So they might kick everyone out at that time. Might just be a one weekend thing so not a big deal but we shall see.
BigButtDetecto
04-25-23, 23:21
Unfortunately Adelitas is still closed today Tuesday 25.
FlacasOnly420
05-11-23, 04:25
The infamous Luke P said they're reopening on YouTube.
Aviator400
05-11-23, 14:55
The infamous Luke P said they're reopening on YouTube.Infamous Puke tells the truth as often as the dishonorable George Santos.
I'll believe it when I see it. His inside track is the third rail.
And likely it will not be the AB I once enjoyed. Sad.
BrotherMouzone
05-11-23, 17:17
Infamous Puke tells the truth as often as the dishonorable George Santos.
I'll believe it when I see it. His inside track is the third rail.
And likely it will not be the AB I once enjoyed. Sad.A chica I've known for a long time and who's worked at Adelitas for many, many (15+) years messaged me earlier today and is also saying she's heard from guys who work at the club that the plan is to re-open Monday (May 15). She wasn't 100% certain but is saying she is hopeful that is the case.
GentileBear
05-11-23, 23:45
Infamous Puke tells the truth as often as the dishonorable George Santos.
I'll believe it when I see it. His inside track is the third rail.
Why you don't think the Skanks he parades on his livestreams are not flawless perfect 10's?
Newbies should not worry about getting a passport. Because a drivers license is all you need.?????
While I am also a longtime fan of Chicago Club. Especially pre 2000 - Luke Powells YT channel features Nasty and Ugly chicas plus his advice to first time visitors is in error - Passports or passport card are needed - sure Customs will let you in with a DL - you are just asking for them to inspect you further.
SomeDude321
05-15-23, 06:51
Watched a Luke Powell video to kill time. He's predicting that it's opening On May 15th, tomorrow, based on his "inside source (s)". Guess we'll find out soon enough if that's true or not.
GentileBear
05-17-23, 01:34
Adilitas is still closed as of 5 PM 5/16/2023. Luke was wrong. Or maybe his Heynas' were wrong.
Adilitas is still closed as of 5 PM 5/16/2023. Luke was wrong. Or maybe his Heynas' were wrong.I've never watched any of his videos but from what you guys write about he needs to have constant videos to make money. I'm not sure how many views he's getting but I imagine he's making decent money from his videos and it would be easy to throw out supposed dates that AB will open to drive up his views since it's the hot topic.
I was in HK Sunday and noticed a few AB waiters now working there so if AB was to be opened the next day I doubt they would still be at HK. One guy has been at AB for many years.
I didn't bother asking anyone about when it might open since I knew it would all be speculation especially the guy sitting on the stool in front of AB. It was very weird to not have their light on and it kind off brought down the vibe of the Zona in my opinion. Reminded me of some dreams I've had that I go to the Zona and all the bars are closed.
BrotherMouzone
05-17-23, 04:30
Adilitas is still closed as of 5 PM 5/16/2023. Luke was wrong. Or maybe his Heynas' were wrong.Just being honest I'd heard the same thing he did (May 15th reopening date). Adelitas chica who's worked there for many, many years told me that and her source was guys who worked at the club. So it was just bad information but I don't doubt that that was the info he got and was just passing along as I'd heard the same thing. And I know Luke can be full of shit a lot.
Just being honest I'd heard the same thing he did (May 15th reopening date). Adelitas chica who's worked there for many, many years told me that and her source was guys who worked at the club. So it was just bad information but I don't doubt that that was the info he got and was just passing along as I'd heard the same thing. And I know Luke can be full of shit a lot.Adelitas still has a security guard sitting in front. He told me 7 days ago "30 days".
GentileBear
05-20-23, 02:55
Adilitas is Still Closed.
But Luke wants to remind us to not go into the Taxi business with a hooker in Tijuana. (No guys, I am serious. He just posted this gem).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7hyTfJXHAY
Adilitas is Still Closed.
But Luke wants to remind us to not go into the Taxi business with a hooker in Tijuana. (No guys, I am serious. He just posted this gem).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7hyTfJXHAYHe called her dumb. Methinks he better have a look in the mirror.
Baxter Slade
05-20-23, 16:44
Adilitas is Still Closed.
But Luke wants to remind us to not go into the Taxi business with a hooker in Tijuana. (No guys, I am serious. He just posted this gem).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7hyTfJXHAYHow about a hot dog cart business with a hooker? I have heard of a few guys going that route.
NapataJohn
05-20-23, 18:26
How about a hot dog cart business with a hooker? I have heard of a few guys going that route.Yes and if a guy buys in bulk he gets a free date in the evening with the hooker. That would be a sure hit.
Adelitas still closed as of last weekend. That chicas that talked Luke into going into the Taxi business and took him for a ride must be one incredible chica in bed.
ABAJoeSmith123
05-26-23, 06:21
Adelitas still closed as of last weekend. That chicas that talked Luke into going into the Taxi business and took him for a ride must be one incredible chica in bed.Luke's knowledge of Tijuana in his reports is no different than an amateur doing a quick Google search and panning off what he reads as his own Intel to make money off his pathetic YouTube videos.
Explorer8939
05-30-23, 18:11
I just noticed the large construction in the Alley, right next to Cascadas.
I was told its owned by Adelitas. Doesn't look very active today.
At the rate Adelitas has been closed, I'd imagine HK group would buy them out and just expand their footprint in ZN. The shuttle would be for every club minus the smaller outlying ones and Chicago. It was always nice to see the difference in the clubs, but Adelitas always seemed kind of dead and they tried to get the Venezuelans to push the expensive bottles on you. They were cute and look different than Mexicans, but seemed strictly business. It was still nice alternative. Hope they open back up soon.
At the rate Adelitas has been closed, I'd imagine HK group would buy them out and just expand their footprint in ZN. The shuttle would be for every club minus the smaller outlying ones and Chicago. It was always nice to see the difference in the clubs, but Adelitas always seemed kind of dead and they tried to get the Venezuelans to push the expensive bottles on you. They were cute and look different than Mexicans, but seemed strictly business. It was still nice alternative. Hope they open back up soon.Just what the world needs, more Hong Kong. I miss Las chavelas. When I'm drinking I like the company of girls who will flirt that's not happening in hk even in 7 yrs ago it was rare to find and unreliable. But walk into a quiet Las chavelas and woman wpuld flirt with me to get me to buy a drink. Now it feels like a real brothel you just gona look, pick a woman have boring sex. Korea bar closed too. That's the speak easy hk had going during covid. They would have some woman that did t look good enough for hk, basically Las chavelas type of girls. I've been to all the bars this month theres none that fit my desire. I've been to Chicago its always full but no girl has flirted. The place is too bright. Gold palace is dark enough but it's hard to go from 1 girl to another if the 1st drink doesn't lead to anything. Tropical has been useless for me the last 30 times I've walked in. I've been in San diego and tijauan a month now and haven't touched a girl LOL. I'm grumpy even my tinder life has dried up.
BigButtDetecto
06-04-23, 18:59
Just what the world needs, more Hong Kong. I miss Las chavelas. When I'm drinking I like the company of girls who will flirt that's not happening in hk even in 7 yrs ago it was rare to find and unreliable. But walk into a quiet Las chavelas and woman wpuld flirt with me to get me to buy a drink. Now it feels like a real brothel you just gona look, pick a woman have boring sex. Korea bar closed too. That's the speak easy hk had going during covid. They would have some woman that did t look good enough for hk, basically Las chavelas type of girls. I've been to all the bars this month theres none that fit my desire. I've been to Chicago its always full but no girl has flirted. The place is too bright. Gold palace is dark enough but it's hard to go from 1 girl to another if the 1st drink doesn't lead to anything. Tropical has been useless for me the last 30 times I've walked in. I've been in San diego and tijauan a month now and haven't touched a girl LOL. I'm grumpy even my tinder life has dried up.I agree; Tijuana is a far cry from what it used to be. I live next to Tijuana but now instead of going every week I go twice a month just to see but I don't partake anymore except with my old regulars. I better save my money to go to south America every 3 months; much more choice and less expensive.
RikyMichaels7
06-08-23, 02:21
Just what the world needs, more Hong Kong. I miss Las chavelas. When I'm drinking I like the company of girls who will flirt that's not happening in hk even in 7 yrs ago it was rare to find and unreliable. But walk into a quiet Las chavelas and woman wpuld flirt with me to get me to buy a drink. Now it feels like a real brothel you just gona look, pick a woman have boring sex. Korea bar closed too. That's the speak easy hk had going during covid. They would have some woman that did t look good enough for hk, basically Las chavelas type of girls. I've been to all the bars this month theres none that fit my desire. I've been to Chicago its always full but no girl has flirted. The place is too bright. Gold palace is dark enough but it's hard to go from 1 girl to another if the 1st drink doesn't lead to anything. Tropical has been useless for me the last 30 times I've walked in. I've been in San diego and tijauan a month now and haven't touched a girl LOL. I'm grumpy even my tinder life has dried up.I totally agree with you. Chavelas used to be a fun place with girls that were nice and who would love to flirt. Only a handful of stunners but fun. You walk into Chavelas now and all you see is a bunch of the professional hoes from Hong Kong, sitting there bored to death messaging their boyfriends. They really screwed that place up joining it with Hong Kong. I honestly can't stand Hong Kong any more.
I totally agree with you. Chavelas used to be a fun place with girls that were nice and who would love to flirt. Only a handful of stunners but fun. You walk into Chavelas now and all you see is a bunch of the professional hoes from Hong Kong, sitting there bored to death messaging their boyfriends. They really screwed that place up joining it with Hong Kong. I honestly can't stand Hong Kong any more.And to make matters worse, they took away the chavelas stage the girls could dance on, and now only open the front half unless it's busy moment. So the darker seating a bit more private. Is just closed. Essentially chavelas doesn't exist anymore.
BigButtDetecto
06-15-23, 22:17
It sounds that the cartels that supervise the Mexican government still did not give the green light to reopen.
A veteran chica at HK told me word amongst those in the know is that Adelitas will be closed for several more months.
No idea if it's true but she seemed pretty sure of it when she told me.I wrote this back in March and it's almost July now. Looks like she was right. She's been working in the zona for almost 20 years so she's pretty tapped into the gossip.
Did she tell you why they closed in the first place?
I wrote this back in March and it's almost July now. Looks like she was right. She's been working in the zona for almost 20 years so she's pretty tapped into the gossip..
Did she tell you why they closed in the first place?
.Who cares at this point.
I wrote this back in March and it's almost July now. Looks like she was right. She's been working in the zona for almost 20 years so she's pretty tapped into the gossip.Wow! 20 years and still working in ZN? She should have invested part of it in Amazon and Apple stock. Hope she invested some of her earnings, but most I've met can't think past the next shopping trip or surgery. It is hard to believe this club is closed and no investors have been able to bribe the government to get it back and running especially pushing into these summer months.
Did she tell you why they closed in the first place?Yes although I would rather not speak about it out in the open, but it has nothing to do with what was being reported on. I may have alluded to it in one of my earlier posts.
Wow! 20 years and still working in ZN? She should have invested part of it in Amazon and Apple stock. Hope she invested some of her earnings, but most I've met can't think past the next shopping trip or surgery. It is hard to believe this club is closed and no investors have been able to bribe the government to get it back and running especially pushing into these summer months.To be fair she hasn't been working those 20 years straight LOL. She dips in and out. For example she hasn't been working the past couple months because she met some guy who's paying her to travel with him throughout Mexico. She says he might even pay her out through the rest of the summer.
Yes although I would rather not speak about it out in the open, but it has nothing to do with what was being reported on. I may have alluded to it in one of my earlier posts.
To be fair she hasn't been working those 20 years straight LOL. She dips in and out. For example she hasn't been working the past couple months because she met some guy who's paying her to travel with him throughout Mexico. She says he might even pay her out through the rest of the summer.https://www.excelsior.com.mx/nacional/segunda-oportunidad-para-bar-adelita-centro-trata-personas-tijuana/1592517
In this article it seems like AB is going to be able to open again but not sure when. I still question the human trafficking stuff since it's never been something that I had noticed from girls I have know to work in AB. They come and go as they please, but who knows. The part of the article that talks about money laundering is what I've heard from another person but since it was only one source I never wanted to put it here since it would be pure speculation and we have to much of that on this board.
BrotherMouzone
06-25-23, 16:38
https://www.excelsior.com.mx/nacional/segunda-oportunidad-para-bar-adelita-centro-trata-personas-tijuana/1592517
In this article it seems like AB is going to be able to open again but not sure when. I still question the human trafficking stuff since it's never been something that I had noticed from girls I have know to work in AB. They come and go as they please, but who knows. The part of the article that talks about money laundering is what I've heard from another person but since it was only one source I never wanted to put it here since it would be pure speculation and we have to much of that on this board.IMO there's too much detail here for a lot of this to not be true ("true" meaning the reasons why AB shut down, not necessarily the accusations themselves), including the human trafficking stuff. The article is in a reputable newspaper (2nd oldest in Mexico City) from a reputable news reporter from what I can tell. I did ask multiple long-time AB girls about the AB having minors allegations way back when this first came about, and they all said they didn't notice anything like that, but that doesn't necessarily mean there wasn't at least some of that. Never asked about the trafficking of legally aged girls but that part is more believable, especially with some of the details here.
Aviator400
06-25-23, 16:50
Saturday I had a TLN with a long time former AB chica. Asked if her costumes are still locked up in AB. She said yes and has no idea when she can recover her property or when she can go back to work.
BrotherMouzone
06-25-23, 17:20
https://www.excelsior.com.mx/nacional/ganancias-ilicitas-bar-adelita-tijuana/1594187?utm_source=medio-ambiente&utm_medium=ultimahora&utm_campaign=sidebar
The article in the link above was published just an hour or so ago. Based on the ongoing investigations, it would seem to me that Adelitas won't re-open for a long, long time, if at all (though that is just my own very layman opinion). Towards the end, the article does allude to what a chica who has worked at both AB and HK, and who I trust, told me a few months ago. That the owner of AB is a millionaire who owns several businesses with AB not necessarily being the most lucrative. From what the chica told me a long while back, all this legal stuff. Whether or not it's true. Is being brought about by some other local business people (business people who happen to be friendly with the HK owners) and who are all working together with the HK owners to drive the owners of AB out of Tijuana.
This article here is from another newspaper and is 5 years or so old, but if gives some pretty good background on the family that owns AB and some in-fighting they had (that might still be going on to some extent even today): https://zetatijuana.com/2018/05/administrador-del-bar-adelita-denunciado-por-secuestro/.
I only go to Tijuana 2-4 times a year but even I recall an unsual amount of turnover with chicas and AB staff around that time.
SlickVick0303
06-25-23, 17:36
Total shame that it is closed. I saw the news report and articles recently as well, which to me just means that it will likely be closed a long time indeed. Once it is in the public eye, they can no longer let it slide easily.
Too bad, I had some great times there over the years and even though lately it wasn't the best, it was still a must go to spot each visit.
I just hope it comes back as something similar soon. Although, I am sure HK will probably be the ones to buy it out. They have ZN completely monopolized. It sucks. Might actually have to start looking into DejaVu and Amnesia as stops just to change up the vibes.
IMO there's too much detail here for a lot of this to not be true ("true" meaning the reasons why AB shut down, not necessarily the accusations themselves), including the human trafficking stuff. The article is in a reputable newspaper (2nd oldest in Mexico City) from a reputable news reporter from what I can tell. I did ask multiple long-time AB girls about the AB having minors allegations way back when this first came about, and they all said they didn't notice anything like that, but that doesn't necessarily mean there wasn't at least some of that. Never asked about the trafficking of legally aged girls but that part is more believable, especially with some of the details here.I did t read articles and in general, I'll just say, govts can say anything to use as an excuse to take action. PUTIN has a big peace keeping mission going on in Ukraine. USA was in Iraq for 20 yrs because of weapons of mass destruction they unfortunately couldn't find. Everytime a dump motel is closed down by a city they use the prostitute excuse, as if prostitute isn't going down in high end hotels. Everytime someone gets shot outside a bar a town will try close it down. But kids get shot in school all the time. You can't tell me, out of that whole zona norte scene, adelitas bar, is the only place something went less than legal. Cmon. Theres so much stuff that goes on now in other bars that I find very hard to beleive is legal, die to people saying pimps and brothels are illegal in mexixo. Theres probably something else happing potlitcaly with the owner or other groups who male $ off it. At end of the day it doesn't matter because girls guys just go to the next bar. Even when it opens it has to start fi ding woman all over again and customers.
BrotherMouzone
06-26-23, 16:14
I did t read articles and in general, I'll just say, govts can say anything to use as an excuse to take action. PUTIN has a big peace keeping mission going on in Ukraine. USA was in Iraq for 20 yrs because of weapons of mass destruction they unfortunately couldn't find. Everytime a dump motel is closed down by a city they use the prostitute excuse, as if prostitute isn't going down in high end hotels. Everytime someone gets shot outside a bar a town will try close it down. But kids get shot in school all the time. You can't tell me, out of that whole zona norte scene, adelitas bar, is the only place something went less than legal. Cmon. Theres so much stuff that goes on now in other bars that I find very hard to beleive is legal, die to people saying pimps and brothels are illegal in mexixo. Theres probably something else happing potlitcaly with the owner or other groups who male $ off it.You make a very good point here and I agree with you. But it just goes to the other point I raised in my previous post about a chica I know telling me a few months ago that it was really some business people who want the AB owners out of Tijuana that's really driving all of this, not the (alleged) illegal activity. According to her some rich businessman wants the family that owns AB out of Tijuana for whatever reason and the owner of HK, who happens to be friendly with this business man and is obviously a competitor of AB, was more than happy to work with the business man to get AB shut down.
That sums up my understanding of the situation. Will stress that this stuff I'm telling you about the businessmen is NOT confirmed. I'm simply repeating what a chica who I know and trust (and was very confident in what she was saying) has told me. Will point out that I had another chica who I know and trust (and who's worked at AB for 10+ years) tell me that she'd received info from AB staff back around when AB got shut down that AB would be opening back up soon and she even had the specific starting date, but that turned out to not be true. (It was pretty much the same info Luke Powell had on a reopen date for AB.).
But yes, I agree that there are other forces in play here as whatever illegal activity was going on at AB had probably been going on for years and years.
Who cares at this point.I do, it's Tijuana's oldest brothel. It is more laid back then Hong Kong which is to commercialized. The girls are cooler.
BrotherMouzone
06-27-23, 03:31
I do, it's Tijuana's oldest brothel. It is more laid back then Hong Kong which is to commercialized. The girls are cooler.That's my feeling on Adelitas as well. Greatly prefer the laid back, more chill atmoshpere of Adelitas to the nightclub atmosphere of the other big clubs. But we're almost certainly in the minority and it's looking like Adelitas might not survive this.
Adelitas was my go to spot whenever I had endless time to kill. I would grab a seat by the bar and something interesting always came my way. Girls would notice me at the bar alone for a long time and would try to give me the hard sell. Always ended up DFK'ing chicas or offers of BBBJ and anal. Man, I still have this wild girl on my mind I met there about a year ago, she was an anything goes type girl, a real freak. Unfortunately never saw her again after that one time. Always kept an eye out or asked about her but no luck. Some monger she gave one of her wild sessions to probably wifed her up real quick.
I never stay in any bar more than 15 minutes if a goal isn't coming on to me and kissing me. So I end up at 4 bars a night and did like adelitas. But we have to remember. The adelitas it was before it closed was not the adelitas of past years. Prices are same as hk. Maseros have hounded alot guys to buy a drink immediately or even a 2nd drink or leave. It used to be a sit in back by the bar, could wait ten minutes before asked to buy a drink. Sometimes I wpuld bounce at that point. 80% time I wpuld buy a beer. But now it's buy a beer when you take the 2nd step into the place. When you go to zona 2 nights a week and 4 Bara a night sometimes you want to just chill for a moment.
BrotherMouzone
07-04-23, 18:24
https://www.yahoo.com/news/female-mayor-mexico-deadliest-city-010000791.html
Article linked above appears to provide the first "official" (I. E. , outside of the rumors we've all heard) reason Adelita's is closed, as it seems to be coming straight from the mayor of Tijuana herself:
"Caballero has waded in where few of her male counterparts have gone before — working with the federal government to close one of the biggest sex clubs in Tijuana, the Adelita, which failed to show documentation proving that all its female staff were above 18. ".
Good post, But it still gives no indication of when or if it will open again
https://www.yahoo.com/news/female-mayor-mexico-deadliest-city-010000791.html
Article linked above appears to provide the first "official" (I. E. , outside of the rumors we've all heard) reason Adelita's is closed, as it seems to be coming straight from the mayor of Tijuana herself:
"Caballero has waded in where few of her male counterparts have gone before working with the federal government to close one of the biggest sex clubs in Tijuana, the Adelita, which failed to show documentation proving that all its female staff were above 18. "..
"We're commodities," one woman told me, "bought and sold like cars. " The crime figures indicate they are probably discarded and disposed of more easily than a vehicle. We spot exceedingly young-looking girls among the sex workers. One, dressed in a short skirt and high heels with red lipstick, looks like she has not yet reached puberty.
Anybody who used to frequently visit Adelitas knows these type of girls did not work in Adelitas. You will catch many more barely legal looking girls at Chicago and HK.
MemoeNasty
07-05-23, 03:35
I never stay in any bar more than 15 minutes if a goal isn't coming on to me and kissing me. So I end up at 4 bars a night and did like adelitas. But we have to remember. The adelitas it was before it closed was not the adelitas of past years. Prices are same as hk. Maseros have hounded alot guys to buy a drink immediately or even a 2nd drink or leave. It used to be a sit in back by the bar, could wait ten minutes before asked to buy a drink. Sometimes I wpuld bounce at that point. 80% time I wpuld buy a beer. But now it's buy a beer when you take the 2nd step into the place. When you go to zona 2 nights a week and 4 Bara a night sometimes you want to just chill for a moment.AB took a nose dive in the mid 2000's when HK was expanded and remodeled to be the number one club. From that point forward AB just spent it's time just trying to play catch up and compete with HK. I got tired of their bullshit probably about 15 years ago and really stopped patronizing this place when it changed. To be fair I think the same way about HK. IMO both of these clubs have gotten ahead of themselves in recent years. Moe.
Link https://www.excelsior.com.mx/nacional/ganancias-ilicitas-bar-adelita-tijuana/1594187 Google translation " Tijuana's 'Bar Adelita' and its millions of illicit profits.
The investigations carried out go hand in hand with various testimonies from victims, who recognize the four defendants.
RAUL FLORES MARTINEZ.
06-25-2023.
Juvenal Jiménez, alias "El Padrino", built a great empire in 61 years with the forced sexual exploitation of hundreds of women in the Bar Adelitas, located in the tolerance zone of Tijuana, Baja California.
"El Padrino" is the head of a network of Human Trafficking that had its operations center in the "Bar Adelitas" (closed in February of this year) that obtains through forced prostitution an illegal profit of more than 100 million pesos monthly, which gives it the protection of municipal police, public ministries, judges, including officials of the Attorney General's Office (FGR) in the Tijuana delegation.
According to FGR sources, the investigations carried out by elements of the Criminal Investigation Agency (AIC), Federal Ministerial Police (PFM) in coordination with the Public Prosecutors of the Specialized Prosecutor for Organized Crime (FEMDO) and Other prosecutors of the agency began in November 2018, whose lines of investigation are supported by complaints against four visible heads of the criminal organization, which includes money laundering.
The Investigation Folder FED / FEMDO / UEITMPO-BC /0000026/2022, FGR / SEIDO / UEITMPO-BC /0000099/2021 held by Grupo Imagen, announce that on January 16,2023, a Specialized District Judge in Accusatory Criminal Justice System of the Federal Criminal Justice Center in the State of Sonora with residence in Hermosillo, within Criminal Case 19/2023 issued four arrest warrants against Juvenal Jiménez Rosa, Damiáand Jiménez Álvarez, Aschey Jiménez Álvarez and Servando theíaz López, (a) "Glove" for the crimes of Aggravated Trafficking in Persons in the modality of retaining one or more persons for the purpose of exploitation through the prostitution of others and Organized Crime.
The inquiries carried out by the elements of the Criminal Investigation Agency (AIC) indicate that the four defendants used different modes of operation to attract victims, in addition to having a protection network of authorities from the three levels of government.
"The modus operandi of the criminal consortium is as follows: The members of the organization capture female persons in vulnerable situations to retain them against their will inside the hotel "Coahuila" identified with the number 8057 be, located in Coahuila street, Zona Norte zip code 21910 in Tijuana Baja California, to submit them with the intention of exploiting them through the prostitution of others, controlling the services with tokens", the Investigation Folders indicate.
The investigations carried out go hand in hand with various testimonies from victims, who recognize the four defendants, such as the case of the young woman with the initials FSI, who, through the complaint made at the end of November 2018, reveals that she was the victim of Human Trafficking of Servando theíaz López, alias "Glove", Damiáand Jiménez Álvarez and others; who for a year and four months exploited her, forcing her to have sexual services with other people, through threats and violence, in the Adelita Bar and the Coahuila hotel located in Tijuana, Baja California.
The following testimony is a victim of this network, which was identified with the initials of FSI.
"I have a friend named Beatriz Adriana Ramírez, who told her that she knew a man named Servando, alias "Glove", who could send them to the United States, since he knew of a smuggler who crossed people and that he would pay for transportation; reason for which she accepted and at the end of November 2018, she went to the city of Tijuana by bus together with Beatriz Adriana Ramírez; Upon arriving at the Tijuana power plant, they were picked up by Servando, alias "Guante" in a light cream-colored closed car and taken to the Coahuila hotel; to her friend Beatriz from her, and she did not see her again since that day ". Once at the Coahuila hotel, Servando alias "Glove" took her to a room and told her that he would work at the "Bar Adelita" and at the hotel, providing sexual services, threatening her that if she ran away, he would harm her family, reiterating that since he knew where they lived.
I work for more than a year serving clients and having sexual relations with them, in the hotel charging between 60 and 80 dollars, of which she did not receive any amount, since the money was collected by the manager of the hotel named "Luis", I want to say that the percentage for working would be kept by Servando to collect the money for his crossing to the United States. Around 18 to 20 women of various nationalities and ages slept in each hotel room, including minors; they had the right to go out every 15 days only with a companion, two of them named "Mario" and "Alfredo", who also provided her with drugs (cocaine), which she was forced to consume, if she did not do so she was beaten".
With the inquiries, they were complemented with information from the Financial Intelligence Unit (FIU) of the Ministry of Finance and Public Credit (SHCP), where the various bank movements of Juvenal Jiménez Loza, Damiáand Jiménez Álvarez, José Damiáand Jiménez Álvarez, Aschley Jiménez Álvarez, Servando theíaz López, who through various accounts in 8 banking institutions, exchange centers and brokerage houses, move the money from the illicit proceeds of Human Trafficking.
Another of the agencies that have collaborated to dismantle this network of Trafficking in Persons is the Ministry of Economy (SE) which, through the Legal Support Unit, located in the Public Registry of Commerce, six companies with which movements for asset laundering.
The real estate companies DAYA S de RL de CV, located in Tepatitláand de Morelos, Jalisco; Inmobiliaria why Constructora JD Sociedad Anónima de Capital Variable, located in Tepatitláand de Morelos, Jalisco, is in the name of Juvenal Jiménez Loza.
Damiáand de Tijuana, SA de CV and JA Administracióand S. De RL de CV, registered in Tijuana, Baja California, are in the name of Aschley Jiménez Álvarez, while, in the case of Servando theíaz López, he was listed as the owner of the Corporate de Entretenimiento SA de CV domiciled in Aguascalientes and ASJI SA de CV domiciled in Tijuana, Baja California.
With this evidence, on February 20,2023, a search warrant was authorized by the District Judge Specialized in the Accusatory Criminal System of the Federal Criminal Justice Center in the State of Baja California with Headquarters in Tijuana acting as Control Judge and the Technical Investigation file 39/2023 against the Valentina Bar, Adelita Bar and Hotel Coahuila properties; in addition to two departments, where various safes were found, where the cash was kept.
However, during the hearings held on February 28 and May 12 of this year, the judges of the Federal Criminal Justice Center in the State of Sonora, Yanitt Quiroz Vanegas and Enrique Hernández Miranda, did not prosecute Juvenal Jiménez and allow the opening of this Bar, under the arguments that despite the fact that there is "doubt" about the illegal activities that are carried out in the "Adelitas Bar", "Hotel Coahuila" and "Valentina Bar", there are workers who earn legally life in this Human Trafficking Center.
Profits from Human Trafficking at Bar Adelitas in Tijuana.
Juvenal Jiménez, alias "El Padrino", built a great empire in 61 years with the forced sexual exploitation of hundreds of women in the Bar Adelitas, located in the tolerance zone of Tijuana, Baja California.
An empire of more than 60 properties in tourist areas of the country, millions of pesos and dollars in more than a dozen accounts in various banking institutions, exchange centers and brokerage houses with 28 front men that include his children, family members and close friends.
Millions of pesos that, according to the investigations carried out by elements of the Criminal Investigation Agency (AIC) of the Attorney General of the Republic (FGR) headed by the Attorney General, Alejandro Gertz Manero, the 22 companies established in Baja California, Jalisco and Aguascalientes, serve for the triangulation and laundering of assets generated by the crime of Human Trafficking.
In accordance with the Investigation Folder FED / FEMDO / UEITMPO-BC /0000026/2022, FGR / SEIDO / UEITMPO-BC /0000099/2021, supported by the inquiries of the Financial Intelligence Unit of the Ministry of Finance and Public Credit (SHCP) and the Ministry of Economy, various legally constituted companies have been located in private homes or vacant lots.
These companies are:
HACIENDA LA CAPILLA SA DE CV, INMOBILIARIA GRUPO PROMOTOR DE BAJA California SA DE CV, COMERCIALIZADORA DE LICORES SA DE CV, AGAVES SELECTOS SA DE CV, RIGEISA DE TIJUANA SA DE CV, YDAJSACV, ASJI SA DE CV, INMOBILIARIA RICONDA SA DE CV, INOBILIARIA TAJUARI S. DE RL DE CV, REAL ESTATE AND CONSTRUCTOR A JD SA DE CV, EDCE S. DE RL DE CV, PATIN BIONICO DE GUADALAJARA SA, CARROS JIMAL SA DE CV, ANDY why CORRE SA DE CV. , HOTEL FELIZ SA DE CV, JA ADMINISTRACIÓand S. DE RL DE CV. , OPERADORA AAA S. DE RL DE CV, DAMIAN DE TIJUANA SA DE CV, INMOBILIARIA why CONSTRUCTOR A ASDA, S. DE RL DE CV, JUDARCH S DE PR DE RL, CORPORATE IMAGE HIDROCALIDA SA DE CV and INMOBILIARIA DAYA S DE RL DE CV.
According to the investigations that are carried out around this network of Human Trafficking, the resources obtained from the forced prostitution of women who are co-opted by Juvenal Jiménez Loza, Damiáand Jiménez Álvarez, José Damiáand Jiménez Álvarez, Aschley Jiménez Álvarez, Servando theíaz López, through deceit to help her cross over to the United States.
Traffickers use these companies to triangulate and clear assets through gas stations, shopping malls, subdivisions, hotels, ranches, and land in Cancun, Quintana Roo; Puerto Vallarta, Jalisco, Tepatitláand El Alto, San Miguel El Alto and Arandas, Jalisco; in addition to Aguascalientes and Baja California.
In addition, the Juvenal Jiménez criminal organization also has agave plantations for the production of tequila with nationwide distribution.
The movement of assets is carried out through law firms and accountants, who have suggested the creation and expansion of front companies or various commercial companies, to avoid tracking resources, including bank accounts in the United States.
The network of front men that Juvenal Jiménez has for the purchase of properties, bank accounts and other businesses, is made up of 27 people that include his children Andrea Yarizell, Ashley and Damiáand "J"; in addition to direct relatives, such as Abigail, Israel Armando, Christian, Sandra Marisela, Gloria Alicia, Martha Yolanda, José Gerardo and Mario Alberto and friends and acquaintances, José Ramóand, José Francisco, Juan Daniel, Jaime Gabriel, Arturo, Servando, Max, Sergio Javier "M, Jesús Ricardo "see", Dante "S", Valente "M", Mario "A", José de Jesús "G", Martíand Jaime "M", Heriberto "G" and Eduardo "be".
Both the front men, properties and businesses linked to Juvenal Jiménez's companies are being investigated by the Attorney General's Office in coordination with the Financial Intelligence Unit, which have detected important payments to officials from the three levels of government that protect this company. Criminal organization in various states of the country.
The investigations carried out around this criminal organization also focus on lawyers, public prosecutors and judges who have been paid to avoid some legal proceedings against Bar Adelitas and the network of Human Trafficking headed by "El Padrino".
According to FGR sources, it is expected that in the next few days a judge will issue new arrest warrants against officials from the same agency, municipal police, local public ministries and even three judges against whom a lawsuit was opened. Separate investigation to prove its rulings in favor of Bar Adelitas and its beneficiaries.
Link https://www.excelsior.com.mx/nacional/ganancias-ilicitas-bar-adelita-tijuana/1594187 Google translation " Tijuana's 'Bar Adelita' and its millions of illicit profits.
The investigations carried out go hand in hand with various testimonies from victims, who recognize the four defendants.
RAUL FLORES MARTINEZ.
06-25-2023.
Juvenal Jimnez, alias "El Padrino", built a great empire in 61 years with the forced sexual exploitation of hundreds of women in the Bar Adelitas, located in the tolerance zone of Tijuana, Baja California.
"El Padrino" is the head of a network of Human Trafficking that had its operations center in the "Bar Adelitas" (closed in February of this year) that obtains through forced prostitution an illegal profit of more than 100 million pesos monthly, which gives it the protection of municipal police, public ministries, judges, including officials of the Attorney General's Office (FGR) in the Tijuana delegation.
According to FGR sources, the investigations carried out by elements of the Criminal Investigation Agency (AIC), Federal Ministerial Police (PFM) in coordination with the Public Prosecutors of the Specialized Prosecutor for Organized Crime (FEMDO) and Other prosecutors of the agency began in November 2018, whose lines of investigation are supported by complaints against four visible heads of the criminal organization, which includes money laundering.
The Investigation Folder FED / FEMDO / UEITMPO-BC /0000026/2022, FGR / SEIDO / UEITMPO-BC /0000099/2021 held by Grupo Imagen, announce that on January 16,2023, a Specialized District Judge in Accusatory Criminal Justice System of the Federal Criminal Justice Center in the State of Sonora with residence in Hermosillo, within Criminal Case 19/2023 issued four arrest warrants against Juvenal Jimnez Rosa, Damiand Jimnez lvarez, Aschey Jimnez lvarez and Servando theaz Lpez, (a) "Glove" for the crimes of Aggravated Trafficking in Persons in the modality of retaining one or more persons for the purpose of exploitation through the prostitution of others and Organized Crime.
The inquiries carried out by the elements of the Criminal Investigation Agency (AIC) indicate that the four defendants used different modes of operation to attract victims, in addition to having a protection network of authorities from the three levels of government.
"The modus operandi of the criminal consortium is as follows: The members of the organization capture female persons in vulnerable situations to retain them against their will inside the hotel "Coahuila" identified with the number 8057 be, located in Coahuila street, Zona Norte zip code 21910 in Tijuana Baja California, to submit them with the intention of exploiting them through the prostitution of others, controlling the services with tokens", the Investigation Folders indicate.
The investigations carried out go hand in hand with various testimonies from victims, who recognize the four defendants, such as the case of the young woman with the initials FSI, who, through the complaint made at the end of November 2018, reveals that she was the victim of Human Trafficking of Servando theaz Lpez, alias "Glove", Damiand Jimnez lvarez and others; who for a year and four months exploited her, forcing her to have sexual services with other people, through threats and violence, in the Adelita Bar and the Coahuila hotel located in Tijuana, Baja California.
The following testimony is a victim of this network, which was identified with the initials of FSI.
"I have a friend named Beatriz Adriana Ramrez, who told her that she knew a man named Servando, alias "Glove", who could send them to the United States, since he knew of a smuggler who crossed people and that he would pay for transportation; reason for which she accepted and at the end of November 2018, she went to the city of Tijuana by bus together with Beatriz Adriana Ramrez; Upon arriving at the Tijuana power plant, they were picked up by Servando, alias "Guante" in a light cream-colored closed car and taken to the Coahuila hotel; to her friend Beatriz from her, and she did not see her again since that day ". Once at the Coahuila hotel, Servando alias "Glove" took her to a room and told her that he would work at the "Bar Adelita" and at the hotel, providing sexual services, threatening her that if she ran away, he would harm her family, reiterating that since he knew where they lived.
I work for more than a year serving clients and having sexual relations with them, in the hotel charging between 60 and 80 dollars, of which she did not receive any amount, since the money was collected by the manager of the hotel named "Luis", I want to say that the percentage for working would be kept by Servando to collect the money for his crossing to the United States. Around 18 to 20 women of various nationalities and ages slept in each hotel room, including minors; they had the right to go out every 15 days only with a companion, two of them named "Mario" and "Alfredo", who also provided her with drugs (cocaine), which she was forced to consume, if she did not do so she was beaten".
With the inquiries, they were complemented with information from the Financial Intelligence Unit (FIU) of the Ministry of Finance and Public Credit (SHCP), where the various bank movements of Juvenal Jimnez Loza, Damiand Jimnez lvarez, Jos Damiand Jimnez lvarez, Aschley Jimnez lvarez, Servando theaz Lpez, who through various accounts in 8 banking institutions, exchange centers and brokerage houses, move the money from the illicit proceeds of Human Trafficking.
Another of the agencies that have collaborated to dismantle this network of Trafficking in Persons is the Ministry of Economy (SE) which, through the Legal Support Unit, located in the Public Registry of Commerce, six companies with which movements for asset laundering.
The real estate companies DAYA S de RL de CV, located in Tepatitland de Morelos, Jalisco; Inmobiliaria why Constructora JD Sociedad Annima de Capital Variable, located in Tepatitland de Morelos, Jalisco, is in the name of Juvenal Jimnez Loza.
Damiand de Tijuana, SA de CV and JA Administraciand S. De RL de CV, registered in Tijuana, Baja California, are in the name of Aschley Jimnez lvarez, while, in the case of Servando theaz Lpez, he was listed as the owner of the Corporate de Entretenimiento SA de CV domiciled in Aguascalientes and ASJI SA de CV domiciled in Tijuana, Baja California.
With this evidence, on February 20,2023, a search warrant was authorized by the District Judge Specialized in the Accusatory Criminal System of the Federal Criminal Justice Center in the State of Baja California with Headquarters in Tijuana acting as Control Judge and the Technical Investigation file 39/2023 against the Valentina Bar, Adelita Bar and Hotel Coahuila properties; in addition to two departments, where various safes were found, where the cash was kept.
However, during the hearings held on February 28 and May 12 of this year, the judges of the Federal Criminal Justice Center in the State of Sonora, Yanitt Quiroz Vanegas and Enrique Hernndez Miranda, did not prosecute Juvenal Jimnez and allow the opening of this Bar, under the arguments that despite the fact that there is "doubt" about the illegal activities that are carried out in the "Adelitas Bar", "Hotel Coahuila" and "Valentina Bar", there are workers who earn legally life in this Human Trafficking Center.
Profits from Human Trafficking at Bar Adelitas in Tijuana.
Juvenal Jimnez, alias "El Padrino", built a great empire in 61 years with the forced sexual exploitation of hundreds of women in the Bar Adelitas, located in the tolerance zone of Tijuana, Baja California.
An empire of more than 60 properties in tourist areas of the country, millions of pesos and dollars in more than a dozen accounts in various banking institutions, exchange centers and brokerage houses with 28 front men that include his children, family members and close friends.
Millions of pesos that, according to the investigations carried out by elements of the Criminal Investigation Agency (AIC) of the Attorney General of the Republic (FGR) headed by the Attorney General, Alejandro Gertz Manero, the 22 companies established in Baja California, Jalisco and Aguascalientes, serve for the triangulation and laundering of assets generated by the crime of Human Trafficking.
In accordance with the Investigation Folder FED / FEMDO / UEITMPO-BC /0000026/2022, FGR / SEIDO / UEITMPO-BC /0000099/2021, supported by the inquiries of the Financial Intelligence Unit of the Ministry of Finance and Public Credit (SHCP) and the Ministry of Economy, various legally constituted companies have been located in private homes or vacant lots.
These companies are:
HACIENDA LA CAPILLA SA DE CV, INMOBILIARIA GRUPO PROMOTOR DE BAJA California SA DE CV, COMERCIALIZADORA DE LICORES SA DE CV, AGAVES SELECTOS SA DE CV, RIGEISA DE TIJUANA SA DE CV, YDAJSACV, ASJI SA DE CV, INMOBILIARIA RICONDA SA DE CV, INOBILIARIA TAJUARI S. DE RL DE CV, REAL ESTATE AND CONSTRUCTOR A JD SA DE CV, EDCE S. DE RL DE CV, PATIN BIONICO DE GUADALAJARA SA, CARROS JIMAL SA DE CV, ANDY why CORRE SA DE CV. , HOTEL FELIZ SA DE CV, JA ADMINISTRACIand S. DE RL DE CV. , OPERADORA AAA S. DE RL DE CV, DAMIAN DE TIJUANA SA DE CV, INMOBILIARIA why CONSTRUCTOR A ASDA, S. DE RL DE CV, JUDARCH S DE PR DE RL, CORPORATE IMAGE HIDROCALIDA SA DE CV and INMOBILIARIA DAYA S DE RL DE CV.
According to the investigations that are carried out around this network of Human Trafficking, the resources obtained from the forced prostitution of women who are co-opted by Juvenal Jimnez Loza, Damiand Jimnez lvarez, Jos Damiand Jimnez lvarez, Aschley Jimnez lvarez, Servando theaz Lpez, through deceit to help her cross over to the United States.
Traffickers use these companies to triangulate and clear assets through gas stations, shopping malls, subdivisions, hotels, ranches, and land in Cancun, Quintana Roo; Puerto Vallarta, Jalisco, Tepatitland El Alto, San Miguel El Alto and Arandas, Jalisco; in addition to Aguascalientes and Baja California.
In addition, the Juvenal Jimnez criminal organization also has agave plantations for the production of tequila with nationwide distribution.
The movement of assets is carried out through law firms and accountants, who have suggested the creation and expansion of front companies or various commercial companies, to avoid tracking resources, including bank accounts in the United States.
The network of front men that Juvenal Jimnez has for the purchase of properties, bank accounts and other businesses, is made up of 27 people that include his children Andrea Yarizell, Ashley and Damiand "J"; in addition to direct relatives, such as Abigail, Israel Armando, Christian, Sandra Marisela, Gloria Alicia, Martha Yolanda, Jos Gerardo and Mario Alberto and friends and acquaintances, Jos Ramand, Jos Francisco, Juan Daniel, Jaime Gabriel, Arturo, Servando, Max, Sergio Javier "M, Jess Ricardo "see", Dante "S", Valente "M", Mario "A", Jos de Jess "G", Martand Jaime "M", Heriberto "G" and Eduardo "be".
Both the front men, properties and businesses linked to Juvenal Jimnez's companies are being investigated by the Attorney General's Office in coordination with the Financial Intelligence Unit, which have detected important payments to officials from the three levels of government that protect this company. Criminal organization in various states of the country.
The investigations carried out around this criminal organization also focus on lawyers, public prosecutors and judges who have been paid to avoid some legal proceedings against Bar Adelitas and the network of Human Trafficking headed by "El Padrino".
According to FGR sources, it is expected that in the next few days a judge will issue new arrest warrants against officials from the same agency, municipal police, local public ministries and even three judges against whom a lawsuit was opened. Separate investigation to prove its rulings in favor of Bar Adelitas and its beneficiaries.Holy moly gucamole! Looks like Adelita bar is in deep doo doo!
Holy moly gucamole! Looks like Adelita bar is in deep doo doo!Thank you "Captain Obvious".
Link https://www.excelsior.com.mx/nacional/ganancias-ilicitas-bar-adelita-tijuana/1594187 Google translation " Tijuana's 'Bar Adelita' and its millions of illicit profits.
The investigations carried out go hand in hand with various testimonies from victims, who recognize the four defendants.
RAUL FLORES MARTINEZ.
06-25-2023.
Juvenal Jimnez, alias "El Padrino", built a great empire in 61 years with the forced sexual exploitation of hundreds of women in the Bar Adelitas, located in the tolerance zone of Tijuana, Baja California.
"El Padrino" is the head of a network of Human Trafficking that had its operations center in the "Bar Adelitas" (closed in February of this year) that obtains through forced prostitution an illegal profit of more than 100 million pesos monthly, which gives it the protection of municipal police, public ministries, judges, including officials of the Attorney General's Office (FGR) in the Tijuana delegation.
According to FGR sources, the investigations carried out by elements of the Criminal Investigation Agency (AIC), Federal Ministerial Police (PFM) in coordination with the Public Prosecutors of the Specialized Prosecutor for Organized Crime (FEMDO) and Other prosecutors of the agency began in November 2018, whose lines of investigation are supported by complaints against four visible heads of the criminal organization, which includes money laundering.
The Investigation Folder FED / FEMDO / UEITMPO-BC /0000026/2022, FGR / SEIDO / UEITMPO-BC /0000099/2021 held by Grupo Imagen, announce that on January 16,2023, a Specialized District Judge in Accusatory Criminal Justice System of the Federal Criminal Justice Center in the State of Sonora with residence in Hermosillo, within Criminal Case 19/2023 issued four arrest warrants against Juvenal Jimnez Rosa, Damiand Jimnez lvarez, Aschey Jimnez lvarez and Servando theaz Lpez, (a) "Glove" for the crimes of Aggravated Trafficking in Persons in the modality of retaining one or more persons for the purpose of exploitation through the prostitution of others and Organized Crime.
The inquiries carried out by the elements of the Criminal Investigation Agency (AIC) indicate that the four defendants used different modes of operation to attract victims, in addition to having a protection network of authorities from the three levels of government.
"The modus operandi of the criminal consortium is as follows: The members of the organization capture female persons in vulnerable situations to retain them against their will inside the hotel "Coahuila" identified with the number 8057 be, located in Coahuila street, Zona Norte zip code 21910 in Tijuana Baja California, to submit them with the intention of exploiting them through the prostitution of others, controlling the services with tokens", the Investigation Folders indicate.
The investigations carried out go hand in hand with various testimonies from victims, who recognize the four defendants, such as the case of the young woman with the initials FSI, who, through the complaint made at the end of November 2018, reveals that she was the victim of Human Trafficking of Servando theaz Lpez, alias "Glove", Damiand Jimnez lvarez and others; who for a year and four months exploited her, forcing her to have sexual services with other people, through threats and violence, in the Adelita Bar and the Coahuila hotel located in Tijuana, Baja California.
The following testimony is a victim of this network, which was identified with the initials of FSI.
"I have a friend named Beatriz Adriana Ramrez, who told her that she knew a man named Servando, alias "Glove", who could send them to the United States, since he knew of a smuggler who crossed people and that he would pay for transportation; reason for which she accepted and at the end of November 2018, she went to the city of Tijuana by bus together with Beatriz Adriana Ramrez; Upon arriving at the Tijuana power plant, they were picked up by Servando, alias "Guante" in a light cream-colored closed car and taken to the Coahuila hotel; to her friend Beatriz from her, and she did not see her again since that day ". Once at the Coahuila hotel, Servando alias "Glove" took her to a room and told her that he would work at the "Bar Adelita" and at the hotel, providing sexual services, threatening her that if she ran away, he would harm her family, reiterating that since he knew where they lived.
I work for more than a year serving clients and having sexual relations with them, in the hotel charging between 60 and 80 dollars, of which she did not receive any amount, since the money was collected by the manager of the hotel named "Luis", I want to say that the percentage for working would be kept by Servando to collect the money for his crossing to the United States. Around 18 to 20 women of various nationalities and ages slept in each hotel room, including minors; they had the right to go out every 15 days only with a companion, two of them named "Mario" and "Alfredo", who also provided her with drugs (cocaine), which she was forced to consume, if she did not do so she was beaten".
With the inquiries, they were complemented with information from the Financial Intelligence Unit (FIU) of the Ministry of Finance and Public Credit (SHCP), where the various bank movements of Juvenal Jimnez Loza, Damiand Jimnez lvarez, Jos Damiand Jimnez lvarez, Aschley Jimnez lvarez, Servando theaz Lpez, who through various accounts in 8 banking institutions, exchange centers and brokerage houses, move the money from the illicit proceeds of Human Trafficking.
Another of the agencies that have collaborated to dismantle this network of Trafficking in Persons is the Ministry of Economy (SE) which, through the Legal Support Unit, located in the Public Registry of Commerce, six companies with which movements for asset laundering.
The real estate companies DAYA S de RL de CV, located in Tepatitland de Morelos, Jalisco; Inmobiliaria why Constructora JD Sociedad Annima de Capital Variable, located in Tepatitland de Morelos, Jalisco, is in the name of Juvenal Jimnez Loza.
Damiand de Tijuana, SA de CV and JA Administraciand S. De RL de CV, registered in Tijuana, Baja California, are in the name of Aschley Jimnez lvarez, while, in the case of Servando theaz Lpez, he was listed as the owner of the Corporate de Entretenimiento SA de CV domiciled in Aguascalientes and ASJI SA de CV domiciled in Tijuana, Baja California.
With this evidence, on February 20,2023, a search warrant was authorized by the District Judge Specialized in the Accusatory Criminal System of the Federal Criminal Justice Center in the State of Baja California with Headquarters in Tijuana acting as Control Judge and the Technical Investigation file 39/2023 against the Valentina Bar, Adelita Bar and Hotel Coahuila properties; in addition to two departments, where various safes were found, where the cash was kept.
However, during the hearings held on February 28 and May 12 of this year, the judges of the Federal Criminal Justice Center in the State of Sonora, Yanitt Quiroz Vanegas and Enrique Hernndez Miranda, did not prosecute Juvenal Jimnez and allow the opening of this Bar, under the arguments that despite the fact that there is "doubt" about the illegal activities that are carried out in the "Adelitas Bar", "Hotel Coahuila" and "Valentina Bar", there are workers who earn legally life in this Human Trafficking Center.
Profits from Human Trafficking at Bar Adelitas in Tijuana.
Juvenal Jimnez, alias "El Padrino", built a great empire in 61 years with the forced sexual exploitation of hundreds of women in the Bar Adelitas, located in the tolerance zone of Tijuana, Baja California.
An empire of more than 60 properties in tourist areas of the country, millions of pesos and dollars in more than a dozen accounts in various banking institutions, exchange centers and brokerage houses with 28 front men that include his children, family members and close friends.
Millions of pesos that, according to the investigations carried out by elements of the Criminal Investigation Agency (AIC) of the Attorney General of the Republic (FGR) headed by the Attorney General, Alejandro Gertz Manero, the 22 companies established in Baja California, Jalisco and Aguascalientes, serve for the triangulation and laundering of assets generated by the crime of Human Trafficking.
In accordance with the Investigation Folder FED / FEMDO / UEITMPO-BC /0000026/2022, FGR / SEIDO / UEITMPO-BC /0000099/2021, supported by the inquiries of the Financial Intelligence Unit of the Ministry of Finance and Public Credit (SHCP) and the Ministry of Economy, various legally constituted companies have been located in private homes or vacant lots.
These companies are:
HACIENDA LA CAPILLA SA DE CV, INMOBILIARIA GRUPO PROMOTOR DE BAJA California SA DE CV, COMERCIALIZADORA DE LICORES SA DE CV, AGAVES SELECTOS SA DE CV, RIGEISA DE TIJUANA SA DE CV, YDAJSACV, ASJI SA DE CV, INMOBILIARIA RICONDA SA DE CV, INOBILIARIA TAJUARI S. DE RL DE CV, REAL ESTATE AND CONSTRUCTOR A JD SA DE CV, EDCE S. DE RL DE CV, PATIN BIONICO DE GUADALAJARA SA, CARROS JIMAL SA DE CV, ANDY why CORRE SA DE CV. , HOTEL FELIZ SA DE CV, JA ADMINISTRACIand S. DE RL DE CV. , OPERADORA AAA S. DE RL DE CV, DAMIAN DE TIJUANA SA DE CV, INMOBILIARIA why CONSTRUCTOR A ASDA, S. DE RL DE CV, JUDARCH S DE PR DE RL, CORPORATE IMAGE HIDROCALIDA SA DE CV and INMOBILIARIA DAYA S DE RL DE CV.
According to the investigations that are carried out around this network of Human Trafficking, the resources obtained from the forced prostitution of women who are co-opted by Juvenal Jimnez Loza, Damiand Jimnez lvarez, Jos Damiand Jimnez lvarez, Aschley Jimnez lvarez, Servando theaz Lpez, through deceit to help her cross over to the United States.
Traffickers use these companies to triangulate and clear assets through gas stations, shopping malls, subdivisions, hotels, ranches, and land in Cancun, Quintana Roo; Puerto Vallarta, Jalisco, Tepatitland El Alto, San Miguel El Alto and Arandas, Jalisco; in addition to Aguascalientes and Baja California.
In addition, the Juvenal Jimnez criminal organization also has agave plantations for the production of tequila with nationwide distribution.
The movement of assets is carried out through law firms and accountants, who have suggested the creation and expansion of front companies or various commercial companies, to avoid tracking resources, including bank accounts in the United States.
The network of front men that Juvenal Jimnez has for the purchase of properties, bank accounts and other businesses, is made up of 27 people that include his children Andrea Yarizell, Ashley and Damiand "J"; in addition to direct relatives, such as Abigail, Israel Armando, Christian, Sandra Marisela, Gloria Alicia, Martha Yolanda, Jos Gerardo and Mario Alberto and friends and acquaintances, Jos Ramand, Jos Francisco, Juan Daniel, Jaime Gabriel, Arturo, Servando, Max, Sergio Javier "M, Jess Ricardo "see", Dante "S", Valente "M", Mario "A", Jos de Jess "G", Martand Jaime "M", Heriberto "G" and Eduardo "be".
Both the front men, properties and businesses linked to Juvenal Jimnez's companies are being investigated by the Attorney General's Office in coordination with the Financial Intelligence Unit, which have detected important payments to officials from the three levels of government that protect this company. Criminal organization in various states of the country.
The investigations carried out around this criminal organization also focus on lawyers, public prosecutors and judges who have been paid to avoid some legal proceedings against Bar Adelitas and the network of Human Trafficking headed by "El Padrino".
According to FGR sources, it is expected that in the next few days a judge will issue new arrest warrants against officials from the same agency, municipal police, local public ministries and even three judges against whom a lawsuit was opened. Separate investigation to prove its rulings in favor of Bar Adelitas and its beneficiaries.Yea these guys are not coming back. Pity I did not get to visit them.
...... Some monger she gave one of her wild sessions to probably wifed her up real quick.Smart man.
AllanParke
09-26-23, 19:14
Catching up on current Tijuana news. Damn shame I liked this place. Sometimes HK is just too much, would go here to find a Columbian or Venezuelan chick. In and Out.
I think it is very cruel and heinous that from the testimony of at least one chica she was forced to use cocaine and service clients for free or risk being beaten while they threatened to hurt her family, too. I had many good times at Adelitas, tho.
Haven't been to Tijuana in a few years but I really liked Adelitas a lot more than Hong Kong. Sorry to hear that it's closed. Adellitas was a bit more low key than Hong Kong and my favorite thing about it was it had more MILFS than Hong Kong. Adelitas was the home to MILFS with big fake tits and fake asses who provided great service. Now that it's closed, I'm wondering if there is a MILF alternative bar? They had to go somewhere, right? Is Chicago the new Adeltias alternative, a more chill place with more MILFS than Hong Kong, or did they venture somewhere else? I appreciate any intel. I'll be there next Monday and I am always looking for MILFS with big fake tits and asses. Thanks my brothers!
Haven't been to Tijuana in a few years but I really liked Adelitas a lot more than Hong Kong. Sorry to hear that it's closed. Adellitas was a bit more low key than Hong Kong and my favorite thing about it was it had more MILFS than Hong Kong. Adelitas was the home to MILFS with big fake tits and fake asses who provided great service. Now that it's closed, I'm wondering if there is a MILF alternative bar? They had to go somewhere, right? Is Chicago the new Adeltias alternative, a more chill place with more MILFS than Hong Kong, or did they venture somewhere else? I appreciate any intel. I'll be there next Monday and I am always looking for MILFS with big fake tits and asses. Thanks my brothers!Many moved to CC.
BrotherMouzone
10-19-23, 06:36
Haven't been to Tijuana in a few years but I really liked Adelitas a lot more than Hong Kong. Sorry to hear that it's closed. Adellitas was a bit more low key than Hong Kong and my favorite thing about it was it had more MILFS than Hong Kong. Adelitas was the home to MILFS with big fake tits and fake asses who provided great service. Now that it's closed, I'm wondering if there is a MILF alternative bar? They had to go somewhere, right? Is Chicago the new Adeltias alternative, a more chill place with more MILFS than Hong Kong, or did they venture somewhere else? I appreciate any intel. I'll be there next Monday and I am always looking for MILFS with big fake tits and asses. Thanks my brothers!A lot of the chicas, especially the non-Mexicans (Venezuelans, Colombians, etc. Who aren't allowed to work at the HK-affiliated clubs) went to the Chicago Club. Some went to Tropical and some (including a couple I know) went to HK. Some of those Adelitas girls working at HK or Chicago might not be allowed to work night shift, so you might have to catch them during the day.
But I agree. I greatly preferred Adelitas to Hong Kong due to its low-key, laid-back nature. Not a big deal but Adelitas also used to serve Corona beer, unlike the other big Zona Norte clubs that don't make Corona beer available.
Chicago is probably the closest thing to what Adelitas used to be, though I don't like it as much as I did Adelitas.
I'd have to think Adelitas will re-open eventually in some shape or form.
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But I agree. I greatly preferred Adelitas to Hong Kong due to its low-key, laid-back nature. Not a big deal but Adelitas also used to serve Corona beer, unlike the other big Zona Norte clubs that don't make Corona beer available.
Chicago is probably the closest thing to what Adelitas used to be, though I don't like it as much as I did Adelitas.
I'd have to think Adelitas will re-open eventually in some shape or form.Adelitas served Pacifico, which is my beer of choice. And none of the other places in ZN seem to offer it. So when the meseros in HK ask if I want something I say Pacifico and then they say they don't have it so I say OK then I'm fine.
BrotherMouzone
10-19-23, 22:28
Adelitas served Pacifico, which is my beer of choice. And none of the other places in ZN seem to offer it. So when the meseros in HK ask if I want something I say Pacifico and then they say they don't have it so I say OK then I'm fine.Right, my understanding is Adelitas was the only one of the big clubs in Zona Norte that sold beers from Grupo Modelo, which includes Corona, Pacifico, Modelo, Stella Artois, Guiness.
All of the HK-affiliated clubs like HK and Tropical only sell beers from the Heineken group, which includes Heineken, Tecate, Dos Equis, Indio, Bohemia, Amstel Ultra, and Sol.
Not sure why that is.
Right, my understanding is Adelitas was the only one of the big clubs in Zona Norte that sold beers from Grupo Modelo, which includes Corona, Pacifico, Modelo, Stella Artois, Guiness.
All of the HK-affiliated clubs like HK and Tropical only sell beers from the Heineken group, which includes Heineken, Tecate, Dos Equis, Indio, Bohemia, Amstel Ultra, and Sol.
Not sure why that is.Well the same way restaurants have a contract with soda companies HK has a certain vendor for alcohol. I'm sure they get a very good deal on the beers with all they buy.
I remember when I first started going to Mexico, this was before they had Oxxo on every corner you would see the stores painted advertising what group they sold at that particular store. So if you didn't like that brand you just had to keep on driving.
Now I know all the information about AB reopening is speculation but when talking with someone about it the person had heard that it might open again in February.
NewNumber2
11-25-23, 20:31
I went by yesterday. Still closed, but unlike all the previous times I've gone by to look, there was no employee stationed out front. Don't know whether that might indicate any change in status or plans.
ABAJoeSmith123
12-22-23, 07:52
Any news on any potential opening? Would be nice for it to come back. Had plenty of good memories here. It served as a nice middle ground BTW high powered HK and trash Chicago.
Captain Solo
12-23-23, 03:30
Adelita's new luxury branch is being ready for grand opening in swanky Federal Maximum Security District, CDMX.
Any news on any potential opening? Would be nice for it to come back. Had plenty of good memories here. It served as a nice middle ground BTW high powered HK and trash Chicago.
ABAJoeSmith123
12-24-23, 06:21
Was the owner trafficking women?I always find it interesting the original news articles about the club trafficking young women. As a I recall. The vast majority of ladies at adelitas were on the older side and MILF's compared to all the younglings you would see at HK.
BrotherMouzone
12-24-23, 23:04
I went by yesterday. Still closed, but unlike all the previous times I've gone by to look, there was no employee stationed out front. Don't know whether that might indicate any change in status or plans.I was in Tijuana last week and they did have someone camped out front 24/7. I wonder why they even "need" the person stationed out there, it's beyond obvious the place is closed. Maybe just to discourage homeless / beggars or whatever from camping out there?
Don't think anyone knows for sure when the place will reopen, if at all. One chica at HK told me this February while another (who worked at Adelitas for 3 years before moving over to HK) told me maybe "dos anos" (two years).
Was the owner trafficking women?That was the original news. From the way it looks now it seems that is a fact. Adelitas went down the gutter around 5 years ago. I sensed it when they started treating me like crap and all the girls I knew started telling me they are leaving. Yes a manager once told me to get out for not having a drink in my hands even though I had 3 drinks prior. Good riddance.
ABAJoeSmith123
12-25-23, 08:02
That was the original news. From the way it looks now it seems that is a fact. Adelitas went down the gutter around 5 years ago. I sensed it when they started treating me like crap and all the girls I knew started telling me they are leaving. Yes a manager once told me to get out for not having a drink in my hands even though I had 3 drinks prior. Good riddance.Some of the hottest women I've met were working in adelitas. Good times.
Some of the hottest women I've met were working in adelitas. Good times.At its peak Adelitas was in par with HK during Friday and Saturday nights. For 2 years I never went to HK on Friday's and Saturdays whenever I was there, always at Adelitas. The chicas were just too mesmerizing during that time. Problem was the crowds, it was at times difficult to enter let alone to get inside and move around. People used to stand right inside the curtains and there would be no further room to walk.
The decline started from the top, the owners started quarreling for control, mangers got into the act of embezzling money, most damaging of all they started abusing the girls. From there there was no stopping the spiral to the gutter for that club. Newer owners tried to revive it with that idiotic huge dance stage they built, more lights to advertise and lure the men, what was lacking was the sexy women they used to have. Business started dying and they went the illegal way trafficking women, they got caught and that was the end.
ABAJoeSmith123
12-30-23, 03:07
At its peak Adelitas was in par with HK during Friday and Saturday nights. For 2 years I never went to HK on Friday's and Saturdays whenever I was there, always at Adelitas. The chicas were just too mesmerizing during that time. Problem was the crowds, it was at times difficult to enter let alone to get inside and move around. People used to stand right inside the curtains and there would be no further room to walk.
The decline started from the top, the owners started quarreling for control, mangers got into the act of embezzling money, most damaging of all they started abusing the girls. From there there was no stopping the spiral to the gutter for that club. Newer owners tried to revive it with that idiotic huge dance stage they built, more lights to advertise and lure the men, what was lacking was the sexy women they used to have. Business started dying and they went the illegal way trafficking women, they got caught and that was the end.You're absolutely right. I also remember when it was so crowed you'd bump into people just walking through the front curtain. There was no point in going to HK. But then the quality of girls kept dropping with no improvement. Some of the girls from adelitas went to HK or Chicago, but the rest I have no idea where they went.
BrotherMouzone
01-01-24, 07:10
At its peak Adelitas was in par with HK during Friday and Saturday nights. For 2 years I never went to HK on Friday's and Saturdays whenever I was there, always at Adelitas. The chicas were just too mesmerizing during that time. Problem was the crowds, it was at times difficult to enter let alone to get inside and move around. People used to stand right inside the curtains and there would be no further room to walk.
The decline started from the top, the owners started quarreling for control, mangers got into the act of embezzling money, most damaging of all they started abusing the girls. From there there was no stopping the spiral to the gutter for that club. Newer owners tried to revive it with that idiotic huge dance stage they built, more lights to advertise and lure the men, what was lacking was the sexy women they used to have. Business started dying and they went the illegal way trafficking women, they got caught and that was the end.Yeah, Adelitas was always my go-to spot. HK was my #2 spot just to hang out and enjoy the soap shows but I always preferred Adelitas more laid-back atmosphere. Hope they come back soon. I guess Chicago's atmosphere is similar to an extent but it's not the same for some reason. Quality of girls isn't as good for one, amongst other things.
GentileBear
01-01-24, 07:40
Luke Powell is Live right now. He is wearing his Adilitas shirt.
Yeah, Adelitas was always my go-to spot. HK was my #2 spot just to hang out and enjoy the soap shows but I always preferred Adelitas more laid-back atmosphere. Hope they come back soon. I guess Chicago's atmosphere is similar to an extent but it's not the same for some reason. Quality of girls isn't as good for one, amongst other things.Just don't like the bright lighting and the general floor plan of Chicago. The Dancing tables took too much space and so makes it hard to mingle. The way those mesero / as haunt you all around the club is just too much. What makes HK so attractive is that it has secluded areas with their own unique culture (for lack of better word) that present specific opportunities. I am not a booth guy at all, I never sit at tables. I am either at the bars or standing somewhere flirting or watching dances at stages. HK is great for this.
Just don't like the bright lighting and the general floor plan of Chicago. The Dancing tables took too much space and so makes it hard to mingle. The way those mesero / as haunt you all around the club is just too much. What makes HK so attractive is that it has secluded areas with their own unique culture (for lack of better word) that present specific opportunities. I am not a booth guy at all, I never sit at tables. I am either at the bars or standing somewhere flirting or watching dances at stages. HK is great for this.The booths in Chicago in the back are pretty private and HK has more lighting in my experience. I think you have to buy a bucket to get the booths in the back of the bar. The only part that was private was second floor of Miami club, but not sure if that is even open anymore. I recall seeing bros doing doggy and chicas riding cowgirl upstairs. Meseros at either bar hassle you for drinks, but you can just wave them off. They are there to provide a service as no propina equals no money in their pockets. Interesting observation was a female mesera was pole dancing in Chicago and it really surprised me, but I’m thinking she used to be a sexworker and then maybe got into a relationship where she has to pretend she only sells drinks.
NewNumber2
01-11-24, 08:57
No other information, sorry.
Scudrucker
01-12-24, 00:01
No other information, sorry.This is too bad, as you stroll the block, this closure makes for a dark spot in the area.
Love to se it or another bar open up as this could help the whole area.
Scuddy.
This is too bad, as you stroll the block, this closure makes for a dark spot in the area.
Love to se it or another bar open up as this could help the whole area.
Scuddy.Love to see the Adelitas Bar just sell the place to a new owner who gives it a new name. It's a prime location. The should gut the Valentina Bar which is also closed, and consolidate the two bars.
The booths in Chicago in the back are pretty private and HK has more lighting in my experience. I think you have to buy a bucket to get the booths in the back of the bar. The only part that was private was second floor of Miami club, but not sure if that is even open anymore. I recall seeing bros doing doggy and chicas riding cowgirl upstairs. Meseros at either bar hassle you for drinks, but you can just wave them off. They are there to provide a service as no propina equals no money in their pockets. Interesting observation was a female mesera was pole dancing in Chicago and it really surprised me, but Im thinking she used to be a sexworker and then maybe got into a relationship where she has to pretend she only sells drinks.The Miami rooms of HK are long gone.
The Meseros of Chicago are different. I can enter HK and no one bugs me unless I sit in a booth. If they ask you can say no and they leave you alone. In Chicago they are like mosquitos at night. If you say no, they go talk to a jefe to kick you out. Happened to me. I usually enter, if I ever do, and tell them I am looking for a friend and bounce after a few minutes.
There was much fun to be had in that club, now I don't know. They are killing it for me with persistent meseros that follow you from the entrance to wherever you go in the club. Big thumbs down!
Adelitas still closed as of Jan 14.
There was always a guard at the entrance from the alley.
Baxter Slade
01-17-24, 18:10
Adelitas still closed as of Jan 14.
There was always a guard at the entrance from the alley.Guard? Are you referring to an old guy sleeping in a chair. Or the National Guardia finding a convenient place to post up for their alley patrol?
There was always a guard at the entrance from the alley.Put a fork in this place, it is done!
There is no entrance from the alley.
Heard from a couple chicas that there's been a lot of talk amongst those who work in the zona of adelitas opening back up soon, within the next month or so. Pretty much a year to the day since it closed.
Not saying it's definite, just the latest rumor. They seemed pretty sure of it though, we'll see.
Guard? Are you referring to an old guy sleeping in a chair. Or the National Guardia finding a convenient place to post up for their alley patrol?Yes. Guard at Adelitas was an old guy in a chair.
Not national guard.
Heard from a couple chicas that there's been a lot of talk amongst those who work in the zona of adelitas opening back up soon, within the next month or so. Pretty much a year to the day since it closed.
Not saying it's definite, just the latest rumor. They seemed pretty sure of it though, we'll see.I have long stopped getting predictable news from the women there. They know nothing.
Adelitas still closed as of Jan 14.
There was always a guard at the entrance from the alley.That's La Valentina Bar you're referring to. It's owned by the same family who owns Adelita. There is a small corridor off to the right inside La Valentina that can be used to connect with Adelita (I know because I did it once).
Cocr Brotheler
01-18-24, 07:26
I just want the hotel to open back up since was decent daytime room for SWs however seems like decent SWs are disappearing too.
BigButtDetecto
02-13-24, 16:25
The Miami rooms of HK are long gone.
The Meseros of Chicago are different. I can enter HK and no one bugs me unless I sit in a booth. If they ask you can say no and they leave you alone. In Chicago they are like mosquitos at night. If you say no, they go talk to a jefe to kick you out. Happened to me. I usually enter, if I ever do, and tell them I am looking for a friend and bounce after a few minutes.
There was much fun to be had in that club, now I don't know. They are killing it for me with persistent meseros that follow you from the entrance to wherever you go in the club. Big thumbs down!Yes, Chicago is really at the bottom of my list. I even like "la caretta" better.
Captain Solo
03-02-24, 16:55
In the news, the owner and managers were accused of a number of crimes, traffic minors, employ illegal workers, various other business crimes.
I too always found the women in Adelita way too old, also found a few Guatemalans work on and off, but who knows what went on behind the scene. There were accusations, minors were being held captive in the hotel and forced to sell sex.
Back in about 2000, Nicky's place, a bar on Calle 1 owned by Larry, a BBQ chef from San Diego, was raided by federal police. Owner Larry and his workers were arrested, also accused of trafficking women from Venezuela. I did find 2 chunky Vennies in mid 40's in Nicky's trying to sell sex, $100ST plus $30 for room, which was higher than HK's rates back then, so they had very few clients. Deals went sour, the women went to policia, accused Larry of bringing them over as waitresses then forced them to sell sex. Larry was held in federal prison in CDMX for about 10 years awaiting trial, but died before it happened.
As reported in the news, his workers also trafficked drugs, got into gun fires and did a number of kidnappings and other violent crimes in Tijuana. A lot more crimes were likely not discovered or reported.
A Jewish father and son team owned a strip club on Revo, had shows where naked women were walked crawling on stage with leashes like animals. It appeared they offended the pride of people in power. Never heard what exactly they were charged with, but club was raided, shut down and the pair went to prison.
Doing business in Mexico is not easy, with cartels, policia, politicians, government officials ect all want to take their bites out of you, then sometimes they have to arrest and prosecute someone just to show their bosses they actually do some work. Mayor caballero is dead set about eradicating prostitution in Tijuana. She's not popular with the cartels, mongers, bar workers, street and bar girls.
In the news, the owner and managers were accused of a number of crimes, traffic minors, employ illegal workers, various other business crimes.
I too always found the women in Adelita way too old, also found a few Guatemalans work on and off, but who knows what went on behind the scene. There were accusations, minors were being held captive in the hotel and forced to sell sex.
Back in about 2000, Nicky's place, a bar on Calle 1 owned by Larry, a BBQ chef from San Diego, was raided by federal police. Owner Larry and his workers were arrested, also accused of trafficking women from Venezuela. I did find 2 chunky Vennies in mid 40's in Nicky's trying to sell sex, $100ST plus $30 for room, which was higher than HK's rates back then, so they had very few clients. Deals went sour, the women went to policia, accused Larry of bringing them over as waitresses then forced them to sell sex. Larry was held in federal prison in CDMX for about 10 years awaiting trial, but died before it happened.
As reported in the news, his workers also trafficked drugs, got into gun fires and did a number of kidnappings and other violent crimes in Tijuana. A lot more crimes were likely not discovered or reported.
A Jewish father and son team owned a strip club on Revo, had shows where naked women were walked crawling on stage with leashes like animals. It appeared they offended the pride of people in power. Never heard what exactly they were charged with, but club was raided, shut down and the pair went to prison.
Doing business in Mexico is not easy, with cartels, policia, politicians, government officials ect all want to take their bites out of you, then sometimes they have to arrest and prosecute someone just to show their bosses they actually do some work. Mayor caballero is dead set about eradicating prostitution in Tijuana. She's not popular with the cartels, mongers, bar workers, street and bar girls.Racketeering "protection money" is pretty much the rage in Mexico because it is such a low priority crime for LEO. I would imagine that a high profile business such as a sex bar would need to pay many groups off, including politicians. I am guessing that Adelitas failed to pay the wrong groups off and were retaliated against. I find it difficult to believe that Adelitas with its reputation for fat old chicas, employed minors and HK with its reputation for young spinners did not.
Racketeering "protection money" is pretty much the rage in Mexico because it is such a low priority crime for LEO. I would imagine that a high profile business such as a sex bar would need to pay many groups off, including politicians. I am guessing that Adelitas failed to pay the wrong groups off and were retaliated against. I find it difficult to believe that Adelitas with its reputation for fat old chicas, employed minors and HK with its reputation for young spinners did not.I never saw any underage chicas in Adelitas, but at one point it seemed like any attractive chica I met at that bar was from Venezuela. I thought it must be a Venezuelan only bar and hard to imagine they would all come to Mexico to work at such an establishment. On the other hand, HK I've only met chicas from Mexico except one occasion met a Venezuelan chica that spoke perfect English and used to live in CO. She said she worked as a bartender which I assume she must have meant stripper.
Mayor caballero is dead set about eradicating prostitution in Tijuana. She's not popular with the cartels, mongers, bar workers, street and bar girls.Really? Do you have an news articles to back this up?
Not being popular with the Cartels is a good thing IMO. Most mongers have no idea who she is and could care less. Bar workers may not like some of her rules. And I've never heard any girl say anything negative about her.
I never saw any underage chicas in Adelitas, but at one point it seemed like any attractive chica I met at that bar was from Venezuela. I thought it must be a Venezuelan only bar and hard to imagine they would all come to Mexico to work at such an establishment. On the other hand, HK I've only met chicas from Mexico except one occasion met a Venezuelan chica that spoke perfect English and used to live in CO. She said she worked as a bartender which I assume she must have meant stripper.AB has hired girls from other countries for as long as I've been going to Tijuana. One of the best girls I've ever been with was from Brazil. HK and the bars associated with it doesn't hire foreigners unless they have the paperwork to be able to work in Mexico.
The foreign girls like Tijuana bars like AB because they keep the money the clients pay unlike many places in Mexico where the club gets about half of the fee when you have sex with a girl.
I never saw any underage chicas in Adelitas, but at one point it seemed like any attractive chica I met at that bar was from Venezuela. I thought it must be a Venezuelan only bar and hard to imagine they would all come to Mexico to work at such an establishment. On the other hand, HK I've only met chicas from Mexico except one occasion met a Venezuelan chica that spoke perfect English and used to live in CO. She said she worked as a bartender which I assume she must have meant stripper.I met women from Cuba once in Club Chicago. They were sitting at a table though but definitely hooking. I saw the passport of one of them.
ABAJoeSmith123
03-04-24, 07:59
I never saw any underage chicas in Adelitas, but at one point it seemed like any attractive chica I met at that bar was from Venezuela. I thought it must be a Venezuelan only bar and hard to imagine they would all come to Mexico to work at such an establishment. On the other hand, HK I've only met chicas from Mexico except one occasion met a Venezuelan chica that spoke perfect English and used to live in CO. She said she worked as a bartender which I assume she must have meant stripper.Completely agree. Everyone in AB was on the older side. It's the folks in HK that often seem under age.a
AB has hired girls from other countries for as long as I've been going to Tijuana. One of the best girls I've ever been with was from Brazil. HK and the bars associated with it doesn't hire foreigners unless they have the paperwork to be able to work in Mexico.
The foreign girls like Tijuana bars like AB because they keep the money the clients pay unlike many places in Mexico where the club gets about half of the fee when you have sex with a girl.Maybe 15 years ago there was an Adelita chica from Brazil named Sara from Sao Paulo. OMG beautiful tanned blonde, typical Brazilian ass and breasts, very pleasant personality. Everyone wrote about her on the sex forum. One day she disappeared like many chicas. Maybe she returned to Brazil, I don't know.
Cocr Brotheler
03-05-24, 05:41
Really? Do you have an news articles to back this up?
Not being popular with the Cartels is a good thing IMO. Most mongers have no idea who she is and could care less. Bar workers may not like some of her rules. And I've never heard any girl say anything negative about her.Hasn't she had one assassination attempt recently?
In some ways I hope the cartels can bring certain 'policies' into USA Making p4 p legal. Some parts of CA and NY seem that way now.
Really? Do you have an news articles to back this up?
Not being popular with the Cartels is a good thing IMO. Most mongers have no idea who she is and could care less. Bar workers may not like some of her rules. And I've never heard any girl say anything negative about her.Tijuana Mayor Caballero lives on a military base because of threats from the cartel.
Tijuana Mayor Caballero lives on a military base because of threats from the cartel.Yes I know she lives on the military base and many people call her a coward for it since the rest of the people in Tijuana aren't able to live like that.
The part I was referring to when I asked for proof was the first statement he made in regards to her being against prostitution. If you read my post you will see I addressed each statement in the order that he made them.
In some ways I hope the cartels can bring certain 'policies' into USA Making p4 p legal. Some parts of CA and NY seem that way now.CA and NY are realizing the errors in not trying to control the prostitution, businesses and schools don't want working girls hanging out. With the houses that are used you get the high risk of people being trafficked into it or having to do it to pay off their debt.
It's not a simple issue and has many problems for society like trying to legalize drugs. Those that only see it as a positive for us are being selfish IMO and not wanting to look behind the curtain to see what is really going on.
Besides between X, SA, Onlyfans if guys want to pay a girl for sex in the US it's not that hard to find. I think many just don't want to pay the price they ask.
LuvMexicanas
03-06-24, 12:43
Besides between X, SA, Onlyfans if guys want to pay a girl for sex in the US it's not that hard to find. I think many just don't want to pay the price they ask.Price is a factor for many guys agreed. However, regardless how remote the possibility of getting busted might be, it exists. And for guys with a lot to lose, simply being arrested (forget whether convicted or not) will bring a well constructed life crashing down.
Robert Goulet
03-06-24, 18:22
Price is a factor for many guys agreed. However, regardless how remote the possibility of getting busted might be, it exists. And for guys with a lot to lose, simply being arrested (forget whether convicted or not) will bring a well constructed life crashing down.Had a big sweep around here recently, the mongers weren't just charged with that but they added human trafficking to the charges. Quite a few white collar dudes went down. SA is probably the safest option.
Cocr Brotheler
03-07-24, 02:01
So what is worse keeping it illegal and all those negative aspects or legal similar to Costa, Europe etc. ? Is it selfish to look at it this way?
Legalized in Amsterdam many years ago to keep it at least all in one area with some controls. Until recently seemed to be the balance now I've heard they are thinking about relocation the red light zone away from the city center.
So what is worse keeping it illegal and all those negative aspects or legal similar to Costa, Europe etc. ? Is it selfish to look at it this way?
Legalized in Amsterdam many years ago to keep it at least all in one area with some controls. Until recently seemed to be the balance now I've heard they are thinking about relocation the red light zone away from the city center.Why doesn't the government just set up a website where all the girls get tested and have real pictures. The street scene is so trashy.
Price is a factor for many guys agreed. However, regardless how remote the possibility of getting busted might be, it exists. And for guys with a lot to lose, simply being arrested (forget whether convicted or not) will bring a well constructed life crashing down.That's why I don't pay in the US. All my jobs had serious background checks and any prostitution arrest would have been career ending. Some cities will have stings and put the picture of everyone arrested on their website. LOL.
Racketeering "protection money" is pretty much the rage in Mexico because it is such a low priority crime for LEO. I would imagine that a high profile business such as a sex bar would need to pay many groups off, including politicians. I am guessing that Adelitas failed to pay the wrong groups off and were retaliated against. I find it difficult to believe that Adelitas with its reputation for fat old chicas, employed minors and HK with its reputation for young spinners did not.How much money do you think HK pays a month to all the cartel, police and politicians. Do you think that is the reason they are so aggressive with selling everything.
Had a big sweep around here recently, the mongers weren't just charged with that but they added human trafficking to the charges. Quite a few white collar dudes went down. SA is probably the safest option.Just check Google "US prostitution arrests". A lot of sting operations. The most arrested guys are in Polk County, Florida, regularly around 100 guys every few months. Since around 1914, when prostitution was banned in the US, the prostitution policy in the US has been completely wrong. Any state can legalize prostitution. For example, California has no problem with homeless tents in downtown San Francisco, LOS Angeles, San Diego, with thieves robbing stores, poisoned beaches and air from Imperial Beach to Coronado, housing and drug crises, etc. , but OMG, if you want a happy ending in a massage parlor. Then they will arrest you.
Price is a factor for many guys agreed. However, regardless how remote the possibility of getting busted might be, it exists. And for guys with a lot to lose, simply being arrested (forget whether convicted or not) will bring a well constructed life crashing down.Well I think the "what if" factor is the main reason many people don't do a lot of things. Driving while drunk can not only change your life if caught but what if you kill somebody. Yet everyday it happens, only a very small amount get caught.
I think with social media now it's very hard for a police force to spend the time on trying to find out what's going on. In my younger days I went to a few girls in the US even had one come to my house. I think a semi intelligent person could easily find a girl and not get caught. Before with Craig's list LE had an easier way to find girls or have sting operations. If you have an Onlyfans girl that does sex acts on video I don't think your going to be busted by her working for LE. Same with SA girls that might only go on dates with you a couple of times just to see if your normal before bringing up having sex for an arranged fee.
But I understand most guys being nervous about getting caught.
So what is worse keeping it illegal and all those negative aspects or legal similar to Costa, Europe etc. ? Is it selfish to look at it this way?
Legalized in Amsterdam many years ago to keep it at least all in one area with some controls. Until recently seemed to be the balance now I've heard they are thinking about relocation the red light zone away from the city center.I'm sure your a nice person and want to think your helping these girls but in reality you have no idea if your supporting some guy taking advantage of them or more likely them being drug addicts.
Just because it's legal in a country doesn't mean girls aren't doing it against their will. Supposedly Colombia and Thailand are the top two countries for human trafficking. So how as a tourist are you supposed to know which girls fall into that category.
Lots of girls in Tijuana are drug addicts. So are we as clients really helping them? For us we just show up have sex and leave without knowing what is truly happening in their lives. That's what I mean about being selfish.
Just check Google "US prostitution arrests". A lot of sting operations. The most arrested guys are in Polk County, Florida, regularly around 100 guys every few months. Since around 1914, when prostitution was banned in the US, the prostitution policy in the US has been completely wrong. Any state can legalize prostitution. For example, California has no problem with homeless tents in downtown San Francisco, LOS Angeles, San Diego, with thieves robbing stores, poisoned beaches and air from Imperial Beach to Coronado, housing and drug crises, etc. , but OMG, if you want a happy ending in a massage parlor. Then they will arrest you.I think you answered your own question with the example of CA and letting the homelessness and open drug use get to what it is now. They stepped back from enforcing the laws without realizing all the negative consequences that come with it.
As a society we have moved on from 1914 and women being more involved in the workplace and also not so dependent on men so the need to be a prostitute is far less now. I think most use it now for easy money and a certain lifestyle and a certain amount being trafficked or drug addiction.
Well I think the "what if" factor is the main reason many people don't do a lot of things. Driving while drunk can not only change your life if caught but what if you kill somebody. Yet everyday it happens, only a very small amount get caught.
I think with social media now it's very hard for a police force to spend the time on trying to find out what's going on. In my younger days I went to a few girls in the US even had one come to my house. I think a semi intelligent person could easily find a girl and not get caught. Before with Craig's list LE had an easier way to find girls or have sting operations. If you have an Onlyfans girl that does sex acts on video I don't think your going to be busted by her working for LE. Same with SA girls that might only go on dates with you a couple of times just to see if your normal before bringing up having sex for an arranged fee.
But I understand most guys being nervous about getting caught.This girl I used to work with recently lost her husband to a drunk driver. Ran a red light. Two kids. Dumbest most avoidable crime there is. Just call a Uber or taxi.
LuvMexicanas
03-07-24, 18:46
Well I think the "what if" factor is the main reason many people don't do a lot of things. Driving while drunk can not only change your life if caught but what if you kill somebody. Yet everyday it happens, only a very small amount get caught.
I think with social media now it's very hard for a police force to spend the time on trying to find out what's going on. In my younger days I went to a few girls in the US even had one come to my house. I think a semi intelligent person could easily find a girl and not get caught. Before with Craig's list LE had an easier way to find girls or have sting operations. If you have an Onlyfans girl that does sex acts on video I don't think your going to be busted by her working for LE. Same with SA girls that might only go on dates with you a couple of times just to see if your normal before bringing up having sex for an arranged fee.
But I understand most guys being nervous about getting caught.You're over generalizing the issue. Everything is "what if", so it's pointless to say that. Also, your analogy with drunk driving is off base because a drunk driving charge has nowhere near the destructive effect of a prostitution charge on a man's career and marriage if married. Sure, you said what if you kill someone. Are you really comparing homicide with paying for pussy? That's an even worse analogy.
Supposedly Colombia and Thailand are the top two countries for human trafficking.The last time I looked into an allegation like this, it turned out that the anti-prostitution activists had generated the numbers they wanted by counting prostitution ads, with no attempt to discern between trafficking victims and willing prostitutes.
Figures don't lie, but liars do figure.
The last time I looked into an allegation like this, it turned out that the anti-prostitution activists had generated the numbers they wanted by counting prostitution ads, with no attempt to discern between trafficking victims and willing prostitutes.
Figures don't lie, but liars do figure.I would hope that this would be based on actual victims but agree that many groups will bend the data to get the answer they want. Not sure where this person got this data.
I remember watching a documentary on one of the FK clubs in Germany and they would get a bunch of emails each day of girls wanting to work but they pretty much black balled any from Romania do to the fact that they are usually being trafficked.
Some other shows that I've seen when they catch a girl and ask her about being forced to be a prostitute they sometimes seem to go along with it so they are treated as a victim instead of being prosecuted. I think it's a very difficult thing to verify without a lot of investigating. It's similar to a girl claiming that she was sexually assaulted but the guy says it was consensual. Hard to know the truth.
Just check Google "US prostitution arrests". A lot of sting operations. The most arrested guys are in Polk County, Florida, regularly around 100 guys every few months. Since around 1914, when prostitution was banned in the US, the prostitution policy in the US has been completely wrong. Any state can legalize prostitution. For example, California has no problem with homeless tents in downtown San Francisco, LOS Angeles, San Diego, with thieves robbing stores, poisoned beaches and air from Imperial Beach to Coronado, housing and drug crises, etc. , but OMG, if you want a happy ending in a massage parlor. Then they will arrest you.Agree, The US prostitution laws are as absurd as the marijuana banning or alcohol banning laws we have had. Really archaic, make no sense, oppressive, intervening in people's lives, anti democratic, anti freedom, BS.
Enter The V
03-08-24, 13:50
Agree, The US prostitution laws are as absurd as the marijuana banning or alcohol banning laws we have had. Really archaic, make no sense, oppressive, intervening in people's lives, anti democratic, anti freedom, BS.There was a prick complaining on the Ukraine forums why I dislike and Hate the USA, LOL.
You're over generalizing the issue. Everything is "what if", so it's pointless to say that. Also, your analogy with drunk driving is off base because a drunk driving charge has nowhere near the destructive effect of a prostitution charge on a man's career and marriage if married. Sure, you said what if you kill someone. Are you really comparing homicide with paying for pussy? That's an even worse analogy.Yes everything is what if when it comes to most laws and the possibility of getting caught for many people not to break the law. The police can't catch everyone but someone may not do something because of the what if factor.
Maybe you don't live in CA but a DUI here can ruin your life and depending the job you have it could get you fired and difficult to find a new job. Many women claim that they would stay with a man who cheated on them with a prostitute compared to having an affair so the wife definitely won't be happy it's not a guarantee that it will lead to a divorce. That's why I made the statement that about what if you kill a person because now your probably going to jail. It's not comparing homicide with paying for sex exactly just an extreme example of what could happen. Same way that an extreme example of seeing a prostitute and you got some STD or AIDS and passed it on to your partner.
Both activities occur thousands of times each day but only a small percentage get caught.
LuvMexicanas
03-08-24, 21:01
Yes everything is what if when it comes to most laws and the possibility of getting caught for many people not to break the law. The police can't catch everyone but someone may not do something because of the what if factor.
Maybe you don't live in CA but a DUI here can ruin your life and depending the job you have it could get you fired and difficult to find a new job. Many women claim that they would stay with a man who cheated on them with a prostitute compared to having an affair so the wife definitely won't be happy it's not a guarantee that it will lead to a divorce. That's why I made the statement that about what if you kill a person because now your probably going to jail. It's not comparing homicide with paying for sex exactly just an extreme example of what could happen. Same way that an extreme example of seeing a prostitute and you got some STD or AIDS and passed it on to your partner.
Both activities occur thousands of times each day but only a small percentage get caught.Your strengths are you know a lot about the hobby and places and also have a nice writing style, but staying on point is an opportunity.
Cocr Brotheler
03-09-24, 02:36
At Sol12,
Curious why you post on here if have such a guilt complex about it? Just curious?
Agree, The US prostitution laws are as absurd as the marijuana banning or alcohol banning laws we have had. Really archaic, make no sense, oppressive, intervening in people's lives, anti democratic, anti freedom, BS.Agree US laws on prostitution are arcane.
I think they are governed by women (indirectly) - men are afraid of passing laws to legalize prostitution because of fear of backlash from women.
Women's pussy value will go down considerably if they legalize prostitution. Because men would no longer need to tolerate their women's bullshit or put up with fat wives.
Even liberal city like San Francisco has sting operations to catch johns. I know close friends who were arrested & finger printed by SFPD. The district attorney then legally extorts $1500 via their 'first offender program' in exchange to not go to trial. The whole thing is BS.
At Sol12,
Curious why you post on here if have such a guilt complex about it? Just curious?I have no guilt complex. I just don't live in a fantasy world like some of you and think that if not doing this job these girls couldn't do anything else.
When it comes to making it legal in the US I like to look at the negative side of it as well not just what would be good for me. Just think of every girl or guy that would be getting into this work has a parent and if you would want that for your kid. I've spent a majority of my life in this world and have gotten as close as one can get to girls that have worked in it so I see the side of it that most don't especially when they are past their prime.
Agree, The US prostitution laws are as absurd as the marijuana banning or alcohol banning laws we have had. Really archaic, make no sense, oppressive, intervening in people's lives, anti democratic, anti freedom, BS.I don't think you can categorize marijuana and alcohol as the same. If that was the case why not legalize all drugs? Oregon tried this and now they are seeing the problems it causes.
If prostitution was a simple case of a woman's man coming to a mutual agreement in the privacy of a business I don't think it would be so hard but weather it's legal or not women will continue to be taken advantage of. So I think now it's just looked at one of those things that's going to happen and they don't do much to deter it.
Your strengths are you know a lot about the hobby and places and also have a nice writing style, but staying on point is an opportunity.Yes it's very hard to stay on topic sometimes in this short form because I'm not going to waste a lot of time or space trying to explain every detail. I have things I try to get to and many different angles going thru my head when I write on something. Unfortunately when I write it I tend to know what I'm talking about in my mind but the reader has a harder time following what I might be trying to express.
Thanks for the insight and I'll try to do better.
NewNumber2
03-16-24, 17:28
I walked by yesterday, no signs of life.
Aviator400
03-18-24, 14:25
I walked by yesterday, no signs of life.They don't even have the guys posted at the entrances any more.
They don't even have the guys posted at the entrances any more.I wish they'the sell the Adelitas name and property to a new group (not HK) who can continue the proud name.
I was happy seeing some posts here hoping someone's got intel on the club opening again.
Just a bunch of people debating the game. Move along, move along.
NewNumber2
03-23-24, 22:37
I was happy seeing some posts here hoping someone's got intel on the club opening again.
Unfortunately I only have negative intelligence to share. Still nothing going on yesterday. There was an employee sitting in front some of the time, but he knew nothing.
Unfortunately I only have negative intelligence to share. Still nothing going on yesterday. There was an employee sitting in front some of the time, but he knew nothing.I also talked to an Adelita employee this week because he was in front of the club and I know him. He told me that Adelita could be opened after the general elections in Mexico (June 2). There will be a new mayor in Tijuana because mayor Monteserrat Caballero is not a candidate from the Moreno political party. The candidate for mayor of Tijuana from the Morena party is Ismael Burgueno Ruiz against Erik "Terrible" Morales former world boxing champion. I'm no expert but it looks like Adelita is closed because of Tijuana mayor Caballero.
I also talked to an Adelita employee this week because he was in front of the club and I know him. He told me that Adelita could be opened after the general elections in Mexico (June 2). There will be a new mayor in Tijuana because mayor Monteserrat Caballero is not a candidate from the Moreno political party. The candidate for mayor of Tijuana from the Morena party is Ismael Burgueno Ruiz against Erik "Terrible" Morales former world boxing champion. I'm no expert but it looks like Adelita is closed because of Tijuana mayor Caballero.I disagree that it's the Mayor that has kept AB closed. If that was the case why would the other bars be allowed to be open?
Looking at old things written and some other things it seems to be a family thing and fighting for control.
Just one thing, HK doesn't do any recruiting because its considered pimping in Mexico, actaully, that's what got Adelita's closed, they were putting adds in Sonora and Sinaloa, the owner and general manager were sent to jail for it.I don't remember reading anything about anyone associated with AB actually being sent to prison. The last I heard was that they were only arrested.
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