Adelita Bar Reports

[Member #4450]

Adelitas yesterday wasn't doing much, loads of girls, probably 2 to one vs guys. I was at the bar having my 1st beer when an unattractive hag came up being very aggressive, said "1 hour, $50" I said no, she started pleading, said her kid hadn't any food, one hour $30 etc..
That is just sad!
She must be desperate, and can't compete with other prettier girls in the bar.
These girls sometimes are the best performers, just turn the light off and keep her face covered with a towel!

[Dornyone]

"These girls sometimes are the best performers, just turn the light off and keep her face covered with a towel!"

Unfortunately even "vitamin V" wouldn't have gotten me interested enough to find out! I hope someone else bought her a beer at least, she was screwing up my visit so badly I didn't want to encourage her.

[Efjayel]

If she was truly sincere I would have at least bought her a drink. I once bought a drink for a friend of one of the chicas. At least I think she was a friend. She wasn't really dressed for the occasion and she was fat plus ugly. And she was carrying her purse, so yeah she must have been a friend. I really wasn't in a position to be a jerk and say no so I bought it for her.

Or maybe you should have taken that "hag" to a store and let her pick up some food for the kid and just pay for it. I dunno...

[Phordphan]

well, who knows? hag is certainly in the eye of the beholder. i'm surprised the door guy would let her work in the place.

but, i, too, think that many of the less attractive girls are the best performers (assuming they're not druggies). i probably would've bought the beer, too. maybe slipped her a fin if she was really ugly.

years ago a chica past her prime convinced me to take her up. we became friends and always had good times when i could get away to tj. she eventually got way past her sell-by date and moved back to her home town. a couple of days before she moved, i went down and gave her a few bucks to help defray the costs of airfare, etc. (it was only $100, all i could scrape together at the time). i had no intention of doing anything, as i was going to a padres game that evening, so i just bought her lunch and gave her the $$. when she found out i wasn't hanging around, she got rather upset. she really wanted to make love one last time. i finally agreed to come back after the game, which i did. we had a couple of cheap coronas and she took me to her grotty little room near cc. we had a good time. i still miss her.

so, the less-than-stellar ones can really turn out to be diamonds in the rough.

pp

[Dornyone]

"Hag is certainly in the eye of the beholder" LOL! nothing wrong with my eye. I can see how an older but decent looking puta might morph into an old friend. This however wasn't something I would have done on her best day.

I felt genuinely touched by her plight but am adverse to high pressure panhandling and got annoyed at being forced out of the place by her.

How should one handle this situation should it reoccur?

[Efjayel]

I saw her the last time I was there. Cute girl. And she does hang out by the door. She doesn't dress slutty like the other girls. Or maybe she didn't that day.

[Tjmee]

I saw her the last time I was there. Cute girl. And she does hang out by the door. She doesn't dress slutty like the other girls. Or maybe she didn't that day.Hey, slutty is a good thing in my book.

LOL we are in Mexico after all.

[Phordphan]

"Hag is certainly in the eye of the beholder" LOL! nothing wrong with my eye. I can see how an older but decent looking puta might morph into an old friend. This however wasn't something I would have done on her best day.

I felt genuinely touched by her plight but am adverse to high pressure panhandling and got annoyed at being forced out of the place by her.

How should one handle this situation should it reoccur?

Good question.

Maybe a $5 bill and, if that doesn't work, a somewhat sterner "Get lost."

If that didn't work, maybe having one of the meseros escort her away.

If THAT didn't work, I guess one would need to vacate. :)

PP

[Efjayel]

I've been in a similar situation but it wasn't in the bar it was with one of the street girls. She was just okay looking but very persistent that I go with her. So much that I had to completely avoided passing through that part of the alley cause it almost felt like harrasment. I understand that some of these girls are in need of money, but this girl put her arms around my waist in a strong lock while trying to convince me to go up with her. Her hands where near my back pockets, I was concerned she was going to pick pocket my money. I held on to her hands as if playing the part of liking her, but really it was just so she couldn't reach into my pockets.

I literally had to unbolt her from me and promise her that I'd be back after I had a drink just to get her to leave me alone. After that fiasco I would avoid her standing area at all costs. Which put a damper on my joy of walking around and checking out the street action.


Girls in the bar that come up to me and I don't want to be with, I simply tell them I just came from "arriba" and its too early to go back up. One other guy at this forum says that he gets rid of a girl by making lewd requests like CIM or BBFS. That usually gets them running. :D

[Gilgamesh]

Just wondering, how often do you guys go to AB.
It varies for me depending on lifes circumstances. Anywhere from every two weeks to every other month when I'm single.

[Mr416]

She is from Sonora and is probably 22-23 years old.She is 29, born in September 1978.

[Efjayel]

I don't think anyone could last that long. But hey if we start a fund, I'll glady try 15 girls in one night and report back. It wouldn't be too expensive. Its $60 for the girl plus $12 for the room times 15 would equal $1080. I'll gladly do a 1080 for you guys. :)

But in all seriousness, a girl doesn't have to perform like a guy does. I guy has to have an erection to have sex. Girls do not need to keep anything at attention so its so much easier for them and why they are so notorious at faking.

[Dornyone]

Efjayel, they fake it for you?

Sorry dude, I can't imagine how that must feel.

[Tjmee]

I was at AB Sunday and I finally found out who erica was, hahaha. I think you guys call her erica la terrible or w. E ya, shes pretty hot, she kinda looks like someone I know. Very straight black hair, fake tits, thin like 5'8 I would say. 23 or 24. I didn't pick her though, I got some chick with a yellow dress cut in the chest. Nice one though.

[Efjayel]

Efjayel, they fake it for you?

Sorry dude, I can't imagine how that must feel.Yeah they tell me they're really just saving it until you come along. :rolleyes:

[Beverly Hills]

First time in TJ this week, and first time on this board.

My buddy saw Pamela and said that he has never in his life felt so rushed. She started out by trying to roll on the condom on his limp dick. Too bad because she was super hot.

I on the other hand saw a girl from Guadalajara about early 30's, 5'2, 110, b cup, hard body, incredible dancer, brownish blond hair wearing white pants and white top. Pretty girl and super sweet. Everything covered but she didn't make me feel like another John. Does anybody know anything about her? I will be back for more.

Also, as a newbie here, what is the deal with the Adelita girls? Do some of them live there? How much money to they make on any given night? I am hard pressed to think that even the cute ones are doing 10-15 clients a night. It seems like they have to hustle and sit and talk ordering drinks, which takes time.

[Beverly Hills]

Theres this one chick that was there Friday, she was wearing a white top and white pants maybe 5'1 very petite blond hair possibly dyed. Whats her name? If you know her. And theres one chick that did a dance with another girl that Friday night she had black hair 5'6 tattoo on abdomen very hot. Whos that?I think I saw her.

[Beverly Hills]

First time in TJ this week, and first time on this board.

My buddy saw Pamela and said that he has never in his life felt so rushed. She started out by trying to roll on the condom on his limp dick. Too bad because she was super hot.

I on the other hand saw a girl from Guadalajara about early 30's, 5'2, 110, b cup, hard body, incredible dancer, brownish blond hair wearing white pants and white top. Pretty girl and super sweet. Everything covered but she didn't make me feel like another John. Does anybody know anything about her? I will be back for more.

Also, as a newbie here, what is the deal with the Adelita girls? Do some of them live there? How much money to they make on any given night? I am hard pressed to think that even the cute ones are doing 10-15 clients a night. It seems like they have to hustle and sit and talk ordering drinks, which takes time.I asked my buddy her name since I didn't remember it. Miroslava (spelling)?

Awesome. Far better than any of the local girls in LA that I've seen and paid 300-500 an hour for. I think I'm heading back this weekend. At least I know now that I have one reliable provider I can count on down there if all else fails.

[Lulu Pussy]

It was opening night at HK and, while it was a hoot, the party atmosphere made mongering nearly impossible. I always and only go to HK when in TJ, but tonight had to bite the bullet if I wanted to lick the clit.

Had a beer and was approached by 2-3 girls. I was looking around for the it-chica. Just wasn’t particularly feeling it being a bit out of my usual HK element. Myda approached, ask for a drink, told her maybe later, but she started giving me the schpiel about how much she want to lick my balls and have me fuck her and cum in her mouth. She’s in her 30s, not very hot, but she was in the right place saying the right thing at the right time so I said si.

We went up, she got naked. She has that flabby loose way-way-post-childbirth belly fat that wasn’t very dick-lifting. She starts off faking a BBBJ with her hand (although it was a very good fake). We fucked for a while, then she finished me off BBFBJ. If I pretended along, it was fun, but don’t like to be promised one thing and get quite another (although we all have to get used to that).

Pussy was nice, and if you have a good imagination then Myda may be worth a roll, but there is much better to be had.

[Efjayel]

So how was business in good old AB during the grand opening of HK?

[Super Gato]

So how was business in good old AB during the grand opening of HK?

I went to AB last night. Just as packed as usual for a Saturday night. I was hoping the buzz of the new HK would have kept some of the guys away and leave more chicas for me, but no such luck. The last few times I've been to Chicago it had been sort of slow, but last night it was full of customers and a few hot chicas (and a few not-that hot). They were having a foam show which I'd only seen at HK before. It might not be new, but about 90% of the time I go to Chicago it is dead so I leave after I finish my first drink.

[Alguem]

I asked my buddy her name since I didn't remember it. Miroslava (spelling)?

Awesome. Far better than any of the local girls in LA that I've seen and paid 300-500 an hour for. I think I'm heading back this weekend. At least I know now that I have one reliable provider I can count on down there if all else fails.Yeah Miroslava is pretty personable and actually tries to keep customers happy, unlike many in AB.

[Locoaztec14]

Went to TJ for the first time today. not a bad experience.Walked around freely in that area. no problems what so ever with cops.

Went to Adelitas around 3PM and the selection was not bad. Lots of hotties standing around.Couple of gourgous ladiez i was like DAMN and WOW. I did manage to land one. I forget her name alexa, alexis something like that. She was a big blonde, big tits, big ass, very cute.I though her service was great; no rush no nothing. Treated me like king. Asked for $60 bucks. i gave her 20 de propina since she was really koo in the bar and in the room. She came all through with all her promises.

I only managed to nail one lady for the day.

Looking forward on going back within a month.

Very Happy and satisfied customer will be looking for that lady again when i go back. :)

[Beverly Hills]

Just got back from a 3 day stint in TJ. Was at AB every night. Saw a few very nice girls. Checked out Hong Kong and was NOT impressed.

I took Francia from AB back to my hotel room and had an amazing time. She is super hot, pretty face, and one of the nicer girls. Very personable. I highly reccomend her.

I am realizing that AB's is fun, but it is nice to be able to have a "date" and bring them back to the hotel room for the night. As long as you let them sleep in (they have late nights and usually like to sleep all morning), take them for breakfast, and pay them well-I think they are happy to go with you. If they have not made their 20 drink coupons for the night, you have to pay whatever the difference is to the bartender for them.

I stayed at the Marriot hotel and was quite impressed with the rooms and the service. They have rooms overlooking the golf course and pool and the hotel is newly remodeled.

I think I have the town wired now. Great concierege service at the hotel, a trustworthy taxi driver who is always 5 minutes away, a private cell phone with a local TJ number, and a quality professional spa to get a (legitimate) massage at the next day when you are suffering from a hang over. I also did some shopping at Plaza Rio where they have a department store, smaller shops, movie theater, cell phone shop, and a great leather store with some nice boots and leather jackets.

I think I am in love with TJ now. Warm people, beautiful women, and just a hop, skip and a jump away from LA.

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[Efjayel]

you live in beverly hills?

[Country John]

Just got back from a 3 day stint in TJ. Was at AB every night. Saw a few very nice girls. Checked out Hong Kong and was NOT impressed.

I took Francia from AB back to my hotel room and had an amazing time. She is super hot, pretty face, and one of the nicer girls. Very personable. I highly reccomend her.

I am realizing that AB's is fun, but it is nice to be able to have a "date" and bring them back to the hotel room for the night. As long as you let them sleep in (they have late nights and usually like to sleep all morning), take them for breakfast, and pay them well-I think they are happy to go with you. If they have not made their 20 drink coupons for the night, you have to pay whatever the difference is to the bartender for them.

I stayed at the Marriot hotel and was quite impressed with the rooms and the service. They have rooms overlooking the golf course and pool and the hotel is newly remodeled.

I think I have the town wired now. Great concierege service at the hotel, a trustworthy taxi driver who is always 5 minutes away, a private cell phone with a local TJ number, and a quality professional spa to get a (legitimate) massage at the next day when you are suffering from a hang over. I also did some shopping at Plaza Rio where they have a department store, smaller shops, movie theater, cell phone shop, and a great leather store with some nice boots and leather jackets.

I think I am in love with TJ now. Warm people, beautiful women, and just a hop, skip and a jump away from LA.

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Nice trip report. I like TJ too, that's one reason why I moved here. Your comment about warm people, beautiful women etc. is true. I get more eye candy than I can handle every day. I get to come home and take it out on my girlfriend.

One notable difference living here is that when you are nice to people, they are nice right back. I love the way the women smile at me when they catch me checking them out. No gringa attitudes here, I love that. Mexican women have taken their beauty seriously for much longer than the gringa. They are much better at it.

Country John

[Phordphan]

Just got back from a 3 day stint in TJ. Was at AB every night. Saw a few very nice girls. Checked out Hong Kong and was NOT impressed.

I took Francia from AB back to my hotel room and had an amazing time. She is super hot, pretty face, and one of the nicer girls. Very personable. I highly reccomend her.

I am realizing that AB's is fun, but it is nice to be able to have a "date" and bring them back to the hotel room for the night. As long as you let them sleep in (they have late nights and usually like to sleep all morning), take them for breakfast, and pay them well-I think they are happy to go with you. If they have not made their 20 drink coupons for the night, you have to pay whatever the difference is to the bartender for them.

I stayed at the Marriot hotel and was quite impressed with the rooms and the service. They have rooms overlooking the golf course and pool and the hotel is newly remodeled.

I think I have the town wired now. Great concierege service at the hotel, a trustworthy taxi driver who is always 5 minutes away, a private cell phone with a local TJ number, and a quality professional spa to get a (legitimate) massage at the next day when you are suffering from a hang over. I also did some shopping at Plaza Rio where they have a department store, smaller shops, movie theater, cell phone shop, and a great leather store with some nice boots and leather jackets.

I think I am in love with TJ now. Warm people, beautiful women, and just a hop, skip and a jump away from LA.

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How much did you give for the TLN?

Also, I have a hard time believing that AB has a 20-ficha quota for the girls. That's a LOT of drinks in an evening, just under 3 an hour. My experience at AB is that the girls aren't nearly as interested in sitting and schmoozing over a drink as they are rushing arriba, then rushing back down to troll for another mark. YMMV.

PP

[Ninguno Especial]

How much did you give for the TLN?

Also, I have a hard time believing that AB has a 20-ficha quota for the girls. That's a LOT of drinks in an evening, just under 3 an hour.
PP

I agree. Sounds like a line to me. At Chicago Club it is my understanding that the chicas are required to have to fichas for each 30 min. session arriba. If you take a chica up without buying her a drink, pay her $60 for the session, she then owes the bar $8 ($4 for each of the 2 fichas you didn't provide for her.)

This could explain why many have no problem with $50 or $40 sessions if you have bought a couple of drinks.

The bar tracks the number of trips arriba by having the hotel desk person give the chica a ficha which she turns in to the door guy. This as well as the door guy (if he is paying attention) logging the chica in and out of the bar.

[Beverly Hills]

How much did you give for the TLN?

Also, I have a hard time believing that AB has a 20-ficha quota for the girls. That's a LOT of drinks in an evening, just under 3 an hour. My experience at AB is that the girls aren't nearly as interested in sitting and schmoozing over a drink as they are rushing arriba, then rushing back down to troll for another mark. YMMV.

PPSorry, I am new here. What is TLN? And the way it works is that if they don't cover their drink quota (which IS 20), they have to pay it out of their own pockets. That's how the club makes money off of them. That and the rooms.

If you were asking how much I paid Francia, I gave her a good amount for the night. I am certain she would have taken less, but I am generous. I also happen to be sort of good looking (toot-toot-on a good day), well dressed and well groomed. I am not in TJ for cheap sex, I am there for the overall experience and the fact that AB's is like a strip bar where you can get FS and I believe if you are generous, respectful and charming, GFE.

[Beverly Hills]

you live in beverly hills?Yes, I do. Do you as well?

[Beverly Hills]

I agree. Sounds like a line to me. At Chicago Club it is my understanding that the chicas are required to have to fichas for each 30 min. session arriba. If you take a chica up without buying her a drink, pay her $60 for the session, she then owes the bar $8 ($4 for each of the 2 fichas you didn't provide for her.)

This could explain why many have no problem with $50 or $40 sessions if you have bought a couple of drinks.

The bar tracks the number of trips arriba by having the hotel desk person give the chica a ficha which she turns in to the door guy. This as well as the door guy (if he is paying attention) logging the chica in and out of the bar.Sorry, let me clarify. The bar keeps HALF of the $8 drink. The girl is responsible for the other half. X 20.

[Efjayel]

No i dont live in Beverly Hills. But I figure if you reside in a rich city you have the money to splurge on a three day trip.

I'd do the same if I had that kind of cash. :(

[Yiyo1]

Does anyone know Mariana from Guadalajara?

[HopelessSinner]

Strolled into AB on Sat. nite. Saw many familiar faces including Claudia, Jessica, Esmerelda and a few others. there were so many hotties i couldn't make up my mind on which ones to choose??!! too many chicas and not enuf jism to go around! i settled on a few and was not dissapointed! it was one of the better nites i have had there in a while. anyone know if HK has changed any if at all after adding new entrance off of Coahuila? has layout changed?

[Jddamigos]

Can't say that I'm new to AB been there past 4 months like 2x a month. I'm really picky (just like buying a fruit in a market, who does not want the shiniest apple they can find.) Long story short there are times that I was just there for drinks and to wait for my "regular" friends because there just wasn't someone there that catches my eye. Anyone have any good suggestions. Other than Claudia lol. I think my friends had her one too many times. I'm all about young, good facial features, and definitely a Ass man. Granted there is someone I want to take the whole night out. What are the rules, fee's etc? Is there a bouncer following you guys around all day?

P.S never heard of a girl name Francia, where does she normally stand. I think the girls towards the back walls by the Mens room are the hottest?

What is GFE, TLN?

How do you guys find out how the pay plan is layed out for these girls?

Sorry for the newbie questions.

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[Jddamigos]

The downside is more about the girls givin me a vip treatment and they ask me to take them out. They dont accept tips from me they always tell me to keep it so i can come back, and from time to time they dont charge me. But one time I decided to go w/ a new girl and my regular got mad and refuse to get a room w/ me, been like 6months now since I had gone up w/ her. Just feels like I'm goin there for a good time but I have to be on my guard to not get a girl mad. They do get jeoulus and latinas dont let it sly so easily.Interesting. Can girls really refuse to get a room with a customer? Did you try to ask her again in the past 6 months? What kind of excuse does she give you?

[Phordphan]

Sorry, let me clarify. The bar keeps HALF of the $8 drink. The girl is responsible for the other half. X 20.

OK. So, in other words, for EVERY night EVERY girl is on the hook for $80, payable to the bar. She can work that off via her commission on drinks.

So, EVERY night she must, at a minimum, either hustle 20 drinks or do 1 arriba and hustle 5 drinks before she turns a profit. Every night, 5 days a week.

Sorry, I still don't buy it. The numbers aren't there, the economics aren't there.

First, there are way too many girls, and way too few customers, to reasonably assure 2 arribas EVERY night (the point where you would turn a $40 profit assuming no drinks), let alone 20+ drinks. During busy nights the more popular girls can do well, but not all of them. During slow weekdays, nobody does well.

Second, if you're a local, live in the local economy and pay local prices, $80 is still a good chunk of money. I have a hard time believing that all the girls are willing to risk $400 a week ($80 x 5 days), just to work at AB. There are other bars in TJ that don't have such a draconian policy (assuming they do, in fact, have this policy).

So, I remain skeptical.

PP

[Beverly Hills]

OK. So, in other words, for EVERY night EVERY girl is on the hook for $80, payable to the bar. She can work that off via her commission on drinks.

So, EVERY night she must, at a minimum, either hustle 20 drinks or do 1 arriba and hustle 5 drinks before she turns a profit. Every night, 5 days a week.

Sorry, I still don't buy it. The numbers aren't there, the economics aren't there.

First, there are way too many girls, and way too few customers, to reasonably assure 2 arribas EVERY night (the point where you would turn a $40 profit assuming no drinks), let alone 20+ drinks. During busy nights the more popular girls can do well, but not all of them. During slow weekdays, nobody does well.

Second, if you're a local, live in the local economy and pay local prices, $80 is still a good chunk of money. I have a hard time believing that all the girls are willing to risk $400 a week ($80 x 5 days), just to work at AB. There are other bars in TJ that don't have such a draconian policy (assuming they do, in fact, have this policy).

So, I remain skeptical.

PPI can call one of my new "friends" tomorrow to confirm but this is what one of them told me and she has no reason to lie to me. She said if its very dead, they may only make $60. Sometimes 200-300 and on a busy weekend 700-800. On the other hand another one, who is one of the busiest there and really hustles told me she tries to make 1, 000 a night if not more. A couple of these gals and I have spoken on the phone every day and I actually to an extent trust what they tell me with regards to their income and their work situations (I know what some of you are thinking, and yes, I get it.). If you want me to clarify with one of them tomorrow, I gladly will. Remember that these girls work 12 hour shifts. Some of them dance as well and I've seen quite a few bills thrown their way when they dance, including 20's or 100's from nutcases like myself. The dancers have 3 dance shifts a night. So, if they crank out a client the first few hours of their 12 hour shift, they've already paid the rent. Everything after that is pocketed. They keep everything they make upstairs. From what I gather, it also seems that Adelita's is THE best place for these girls to work and they pay a price to work there. There seems to be some rules for working. Such as, they can't enter after a certain time (I think one told me 9 pm? But don't quote me on that time). Meaning they can't just come for a few hours of creme de la creme time, make their dough and split.

[Yagami Light]

OK. So, in other words, for EVERY night EVERY girl is on the hook for $80, payable to the bar. She can work that off via her commission on drinks.

So, EVERY night she must, at a minimum, either hustle 20 drinks or do 1 arriba and hustle 5 drinks before she turns a profit. Every night, 5 days a week.

Sorry, I still don't buy it. The numbers aren't there, the economics aren't there.

First, there are way too many girls, and way too few customers, to reasonably assure 2 arribas EVERY night (the point where you would turn a $40 profit assuming no drinks), let alone 20+ drinks. During busy nights the more popular girls can do well, but not all of them. During slow weekdays, nobody does well.

Second, if you're a local, live in the local economy and pay local prices, $80 is still a good chunk of money. I have a hard time believing that all the girls are willing to risk $400 a week ($80 x 5 days), just to work at AB. There are other bars in TJ that don't have such a draconian policy (assuming they do, in fact, have this policy).

So, I remain skeptical.

PPIf I remember correctly, girls are charge 75 dollars to work per night, wether is ficha money or their own money. Since the economy is slow and the passports issue business have gone down, so I guess been skeptical is normal. Girls are aware of this since they spend more time there then us, correct me if I'm wrong >.>, they will rather just come to work on friday and saturdays but the manager wouldn't allow this. If they want to work friday and saturday they must also come 3 more days per week, I know a girl that is require to work 6 days a week because she skip a lot of slow days. Also she show on a friday and they wouldnt let her in and was ask to come sunday instead if she wanted to work.

[DJ FourMoney]

I've been down to Mexico once or twice but not for mongering.

I havnen't had sex since I returned to the US from my trip to Europe, way too much effort for little in return, so I am swearing off American women for the time being.

Since my experience is based on the FKK's I visited in Germany, I felt that Adelitas might be the ideal place for me.

When would be the best time to go?

My work hours are flexible enough I can go during the mid-week if the men to women ratio is better. I went to an FKK during mid-day and it was empty just a few guys, ratio was about 3-1 and alot of bored faces..lol

But I got excellent services and two shots on goal with a nice German girl, bit of GFE mixed with PSE.

So based on that experience mid-week might be a good idea.

Disagree?

With gas prices being what they are, I'm located in the SFV area of Los Angeles and my car is much too nice to park near the boarder, I think taking the bus is very acceptable. I see Greyhound has affordable rates - $30-40 roundtrip (according to the post in this thread anyway)

Im strictly an English speaker, my Spanish isn't non-existant but I don't know enough to even hold a minor conv, so I won't bother trying.

I'm also a Brotha, do Black folk have any problems with Chicas down there? I woudn't think so, since the most important color is GREEN but what about harasment by the police and stuff like that? I am street smart and hardly stupid, I also don't drink or smoke the cheeba-cheeba so I'll be clear headed enough to know if something is about to go down and if I should do my Carl Lewis impersonation or not.

Any insight is wecome, thanks!

[Dornyone]

"Do Black folk have any problems with Chicas down there?"

Well, how shall I phrase this? The Latinas I've met are none too fond of bruthas but YMMV. Good Luck.

[Thatdude]

What chicas are you talking about? Those that have black hair and have tans do not qualify down there in Alabama or wherever you seem to be from.

[DJ FourMoney]

"Do Black folk have any problems with Chicas down there?"

Well, how shall I phrase this? The Latinas I've met are none too fond of bruthas but YMMV. Good Luck.

You can say it anyway you like that doesn't get you in trouble with Jackson...

It seems we (some of us, funny how ONE becomes ALL but that's for another thread) get a bad rap with Latin women, save for Brasil I hear and maybe Columbia.

Maybe its that upwardly mobile thing, then again, I have always maintained that Latinas prefer Caucasians firstly, if that isn't an option their own men and I would think Blacks are a very distant 3rd. I would be better off finding a local chica, no language barrier and judging from the fair amount of Latino/Black children in California, Texas and New York, I think its fair to say maybe I should stay home.

But if my past success has taught me anything, its basically the FAT ones want you first and you have to "dig" for the ones that are mostly thin and have no children.

Something I have lost interest in doing, as I have lost interest in American based women all together for the most part.

The "Hot" ones weather its Eva Longoria or Angie Martinez DO like Black Men...

But they aren't FOB, American born for whatever that's worth.

I actually do know one or two girls but they live off the Texas/Mexican boarder and they are now both involved.

Oh well I just thought I would ask, hardly an indictment of TJ and I find it hard to believe that Caucasians actually ASK some chica in the middle of trying to work a deal asking "Hey I got a Black buddy up in San Diego, do you know anybody that would be interested in him"

Thanks for your reply however.

[Beverly Hills]

"Do Black folk have any problems with Chicas down there?"

Well, how shall I phrase this? The Latinas I've met are none too fond of bruthas but YMMV. Good Luck.One girl the other night there told me she doesn't like black men because their cocks are TOO big and she is small and it hurts. LOL.

My guess is that if you are kind to the girl and treat with her respect, you would be welcomed.

And maybe if you are "well endowed", don't pick the smallest girl in the place.
;-)

[Efjayel]

As a black guy, yes you can expect things to be a little more difficult, from the cops to the chicas. Some black guys I've seen in the zona where nicely/preppy like dressed. And these guys where doing a lot better with the chicas than the black guys dressed gangster like.

Not to mention that the thugs where easy targets for the police. I saw a few of them being patted down. This included a black guy that was just dressed average. For black dudes I recommend you stay out of the Zona streets and inside the bars as much as possible.

[Phordphan]

You can say it anyway you like that doesn't get you in trouble with Jackson...

It seems we (some of us, funny how ONE becomes ALL but that's for another thread) get a bad rap with Latin women, save for Brasil I hear and maybe Columbia.

Maybe its that upwardly mobile thing, then again, I have always maintained that Latinas prefer Caucasians firstly, if that isn't an option their own men and I would think Blacks are a very distant 3rd. I would be better off finding a local chica, no language barrier and judging from the fair amount of Latino/Black children in California, Texas and New York, I think its fair to say maybe I should stay home.

But if my past success has taught me anything, its basically the FAT ones want you first and you have to "dig" for the ones that are mostly thin and have no children.

Something I have lost interest in doing, as I have lost interest in American based women all together for the most part.

The "Hot" ones weather its Eva Longoria or Angie Martinez DO like Black Men...

But they aren't FOB, American born for whatever that's worth.

I actually do know one or two girls but they live off the Texas/Mexican boarder and they are now both involved.

Oh well I just thought I would ask, hardly an indictment of TJ and I find it hard to believe that Caucasians actually ASK some chica in the middle of trying to work a deal asking "Hey I got a Black buddy up in San Diego, do you know anybody that would be interested in him"

Thanks for your reply however.

I think FJL's advice may be pretty good.

I'm not black, but I see a fair number of black guys wandering around the zona. I don't know if they get hassled more than us white guys, or not.

But, the appearance thing does seem to be important. If you're dressed gangsta or seriously ghetto, I'm sure you'd get hassled more than if you're wearing slacks, or jeans, or whatever, a regular shirt, no sideways hats, baggy clothing, etc. I'm sure the cops are on the lookout not only for easy marks, but real gangsters. I figure if you don't look the part you improve your odds.

As far as the girls go, I really don't think it's a racial thing. Many countries I've visited, Mexico included, just think light skin is "prettier" than dark skin, for lack of a better term. So, whether it's TJ or Thailand, you may encounter more resistance than encountered by us pasty-hued guys, but I don't think it would be intolerable. Just my opinion, FWIW.

Actually, to be honest, the only consistent things I've heard from the girls all over, concerning black customers, are size complaints. :) No, seriously. Sadly, it's a problem I don't have, and am not likely to have!

I think the best thing is to give it a try. Dress conservatively (good advice for everybody) and go to have fun.

PP

[Jay Love]

I've been down to Mexico once or twice but not for mongering.
When would be the best time to go?

My work hours are flexible enough I can go during the mid-week if the men to women ratio is better. I went to an FKK during mid-day and it was empty just a few guys, ratio was about 3-1 and alot of bored faces..lol

But I got excellent services and two shots on goal with a nice German girl, bit of GFE mixed with PSE.

So based on that experience mid-week might be a good idea.

Disagree?

With gas prices being what they are, I'm located in the SFV area of Los Angeles and my car is much too nice to park near the boarder, I think taking the bus is very acceptable. I see Greyhound has affordable rates - $30-40 roundtrip (according to the post in this thread anyway)

Im strictly an English speaker, my Spanish isn't non-existant but I don't know enough to even hold a minor conv, so I won't bother trying.

I'm also a Brotha, do Black folk have any problems with Chicas down there? I woudn't think so, since the most important color is GREEN but what about harasment by the police and stuff like that? I am street smart and hardly stupid, I also don't drink or smoke the cheeba-cheeba so I'll be clear headed enough to know if something is about to go down and if I should do my Carl Lewis impersonation or not.

Any insight is wecome, thanks!
During the week, thursday nights are good. You get a good selection of girls without the fri/sat crowds. Generally, GFE's come with time after repeat sessions/unless you meet a girl that really likes you. Parking a nice car near the border isn't a problem; I normally use a secured ACE parking lot, which is supervised by a parking attendant/clerk. My car is nice and I always see plenty of other nice cars parked as well(mercedes, corvettes, BMW). Also, my two years of high school Spanish takes me a long way down in TJ. So if you're going to TJ, you should learn some basic conservational Spanish. A fair amount of the girls in AB English as well. It just helps because you're trying to gain a rapport with the girls in a short period of time. I personally don't think skin color is an issue in the zona/you won't be hassled any more than anyone else. It always helps to be well dressed or business casual (khakis, polo shirt) and well-mannered. I never wonder around down there;usually moving strictly between AB, CC and the alley. Read over Brockton's guide;I'm sure you'd have a lot of fun.

[DJ FourMoney]

J-Love, Phord and Efjayel -

Thanks, just the answers I was looking for!

Its not lost on me that Chicas like pale faces more. Its more than obvious when you see the makeup of the populous anywhere Europeans have been in South or Central America.

I saw a guy in my store the other day and while not blond and blue eyed, did look like somebody with a European background. He came up to the counter to my co-worker that happens to be Mexican and fluent Spanish came flying out of his mouth...

As he made he way to pay the cashier, she had heard him speaking Spanish and she happens to be half Flip/half Mexican and she asked him where did he learn to speak Spanish like that and he said he was from Argentina....

Also that Blond hair is fairly common in Brasil, its like DUH I get it....

I don't envision having problems with Chicas like I said, GREEN is firstly on their minds, not what color my dick is... Phordphan you can let the girls know that I'm not "packin" I'm pretty average when it comes to length and above average when it comes to width and girls don't complain.... :)

Let's see I have alot of BS to pay for this pay period, maybe I can make the trip down after June 20th.

Since I think 3,000 pesos is the limit ($290 at current exchange rates) I can pull out of an ATM, would that be enough?

I also see TLN is also common in Mexico, what's with Chicas wanting to spend overnight with you??? lol

I read Brockton's Guide before, but I need to read it again as I don't remember a THING.

Thanks fellas!

[Bone Claws]

Dj FourMoney

I have been to TJ many many times in the past five years and have never had any problems with the girls or the cops. Girls on the street will pull on your sleeve and call for chocolate if they really want some. I have done girls of my choice from the street in HK, CC, and Adelitas for the going rate and had a blast. I do speak 1st grade level spanish, so that might help a little. I generally go in the evenings, don't carry a lot of cash, don't drink, don't accept any offers for drugs, and wear jeans plus a sweater. I would suggest that you stash your money in different pockets so the girls don't think you are loaded. I will also leave my wallet on the safer side of the border and only take keys, DL, and cash.

Be safe and have fun

[Desertratco]

I went over the border at about 9pm Tuesday. Caught a cab to Coahuila. Wandered the alley, found a tall-ish (relative to me) chica in tight jeans. Name is Carla. Carla says she's 22, looks 18. Cute face, nice butt, little boobs, but good overall. 20 for sin ropa, 3 for the room. We had a little problem in the room. I asked for con chupa for the 20, when we got to the room, she wanted 5 more for the BJ. I declined and got down to business. doggie plus mish got me to the desired pop. Carla was OK, not exactly a starfish, but not overly excitable, either. Good enough for the 20, I guess.

Afterwards, I wandered into AB to scope things out. I didn't think i would be good to go so soon afterwards, but figured I'd look anyway. Was stopped by a pretty, 21 yr old named Sharon. Newish in town, 2 weeks at AB. Sharon speaks decent english, so I sat down to talk and was soon hard enough to go, though I wasn't sure I could finish again that soon. 60 plus room charge and we went up.

Sharon is cute, nice boobs, but very rushed in the room. She insisted on turning out the lights (I kind of like watching the action with the lights on), and though I said I wanted to leave the money on the table, she grabbed it and put it in her purse. Things went as you would expect from there. CBJ, cowgirl, and doggie couldn't get the job done. Not surprising, considering I had finished with Carla not 30 minutes before. Tried finishing with mish, but Sharon asked at least three times, "have you come yet?" If that's not a mood killer, nothing is.

Anyway, the knock came really soon--too soon for me. Couldn't finish, dang it! Sharon popped up, took a quick shower, then left. I cleaned up and went downstairs and back to the border.

Thus ended my first foray into AB. I'll probably return to AB before I go back home on Friday morning, but I think I'll look for someone besides this chica. YMMV, but she was too rushed for me. Next time, I'll walk before paying up front (yeah--I know, I know, RTFF and never pay antes!). Live and learn.

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[Phordphan]

Since I think 3,000 pesos is the limit ($290 at current exchange rates) I can pull out of an ATM, would that be enough?

I also see TLN is also common in Mexico, what's with Chicas wanting to spend overnight with you??? lol


If it's for one evening, $300 will go a looong way, depending on how much you and the lady likes to drink.

Despite what some recent posters may have said, TLNs aren't that common. You generally have to get to know the chica a bit, especially, IMHO, in a f*ck factory like AB. Several repeats, etc.

It's been my experience that a TLN is best pre-arranged. It's difficult (read expensive) to get a chica to leave with you mid-shift. There's usually a salida to be paid, but that seems to vary from place to place. But I've heard numbers of $200+ bandied about. Waiting until end-of shift, around 4:00am, may not be an option for some. So, you arrange it prior to your visit.

The chica may want to be paid whatever she thinks she would have earned had she worked her normal shift that evening. Of course, this will probably be rather optimistic. Often there may be a sliding scale, depending on the day of the week. Monday night may be very cheap, with Saturday/Sunday costing a lot more. I've been quoted a little as $100 + dinner for a Monday, to over $300 for a Saturday. The most I recall giving was $300 for a Saturday all night and all day Sunday. But that was a fave I'd known for a long time.

Again, IMHO, you'd have an easier time getting one with chicas from a lower-key club, like CC. Speaking some Spanish will help.

PP

[Tjmee]

I think FJL's advice may be pretty good.

I'm not black, but I see a fair number of black guys wandering around the zona. I don't know if they get hassled more than us white guys, or not.

But, the appearance yhubh does seem to be important. If you're dressed gangsta or seriously ghetto, I'm sure you'd get hassled more than if you're wearing slacks, or jeans, or whatever, a regular shirt, no sideways hats, baggy clothing, etc. I'm sure the cops are on the lookout not only for easy marks, but real gangsters. I figure if you don't look the part you improve your odds.

As far as the girls go, I really don't think it's a racial thing. Many countries I've visited, Mexico included, just think light skin is "prettier" than dark skin, for lack of a better term. So, whether it's TJ or Thailand, you may encounter more resistance than encountered by us pasty-hued guys, but I don't think it would be intolerable. Just my opinion, FWIW.

Actually, to be honest, the only consistent things I've heard from the girls all over, concerning black customers, are size complaints. :) No, seriously. Sadly, it's a problem I don't have, and am not likely to have!

I think the best thing is to give it a try. Dress conservatively (good advice for everybody) and go to have fun.

PPI can tell you right now Latin girls all over prefer Latins over others and if ur at ab it won't make that big of a difference I do see a couple black guys there but its business so if your paying they'll go

[Beverly Hills]

P.S never heard of a girl name Francia, where does she normally stand. I think the girls towards the back walls by the Mens room are the hottest?

What is GFE, TLN?

How do you guys find out how the pay plan is layed out for these girls?

Sorry for the newbie questions.

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[Roaddog]

Well I RTFF and decided to head south of the border the weather was shitty but I was Jonesing for some Mexican pussy. So I walked over the bridges and found myself in downtown TJ I hit several strip bars and was approached by some horrible looking women with the most disgusting breath I have ever smelled and those nasty wenches were pawing at my dick and asking for tips not deserved. Anyway I was in control of the little head until I ended up at New Body Gentleman's Bar and Massage and it was like a body snatcher( little head). The little guy made me choose Naomi she had sex appeal at first sight. anyway $40 for their rooms with a massage for 1 hour and you negotiate with the girl. I negotiated with her she wanted 100 for that pussy anyway I got her down to 50 and she wouldn't budge beyond that. I started to reciprocate with the massage and she suddenly got horny and well I was already Butt naked and in terrible need of a shot of pussy. So I gave in. I know I need my ass kick for fucking up the prices it won't happen again. Anyway Roaddog out. I gotta make it up to LA where my ex gf is so I can hit my freebie.

[Beverly Hills]

I think I'm heading down tomorrow.

Anyone else going?

[Efjayel]

New Body Gentleman's Bar and Massage

Where is that massage parlor located?

[Samurai0907]

J-Love, Phord and Efjayel -

Thanks, just the answers I was looking for!

Its not lost on me that Chicas like pale faces more. Its more than obvious when you see the makeup of the populous anywhere Europeans have been in South or Central America.

I saw a guy in my store the other day and while not blond and blue eyed, did look like somebody with a European background. He came up to the counter to my co-worker that happens to be Mexican and fluent Spanish came flying out of his mouth...

As he made he way to pay the cashier, she had heard him speaking Spanish and she happens to be half Flip/half Mexican and she asked him where did he learn to speak Spanish like that and he said he was from Argentina....

Also that Blond hair is fairly common in Brasil, its like DUH I get it....

I don't envision having problems with Chicas like I said, GREEN is firstly on their minds, not what color my dick is... Phordphan you can let the girls know that I'm not "packin" I'm pretty average when it comes to length and above average when it comes to width and girls don't complain.... :)

Let's see I have alot of BS to pay for this pay period, maybe I can make the trip down after June 20th.

Since I think 3,000 pesos is the limit ($290 at current exchange rates) I can pull out of an ATM, would that be enough?

I also see TLN is also common in Mexico, what's with Chicas wanting to spend overnight with you??? lol

I read Brockton's Guide before, but I need to read it again as I don't remember a THING.

Thanks fellas!Oe thing Brah, DO NOT EVER ue the ATM's down there. Too many stories of ratero's ad policia's ripping off gringos. They lie in wait at the ATM's.

[DJ FourMoney]

Well I RTFF and decided to head south of the border the weather was shitty but I was Jonesing for some Mexican pussy. So I walked over the bridges and found myself in downtown TJ I hit several strip bars and was approached by some horrible looking women with the most disgusting breath I have ever smelled and those nasty wenches were pawing at my dick and asking for tips not deserved. Anyway I was in control of the little head until I ended up at New Body Gentleman's Bar and Massage and it was like a body snatcher( little head). The little guy made me choose Naomi she had sex appeal at first sight. anyway $40 for their rooms with a massage for 1 hour and you negotiate with the girl. I negotiated with her she wanted 100 for that pussy anyway I got her down to 50 and she wouldn't budge beyond that. I started to reciprocate with the massage and she suddenly got horny and well I was already Butt naked and in terrible need of a shot of pussy. So I gave in. I know I need my ass kick for fucking up the prices it won't happen again. Anyway Roaddog out. I gotta make it up to LA where my ex gf is so I can hit my freebie.

LOL

Butt Naked Road Dog!

Thanks for giving back to the forum, I hope to head down in a week or two.

[Super Gato]

Oe thing Brah, DO NOT EVER ue the ATM's down there. Too many stories of ratero's ad policia's ripping off gringos. They lie in wait at the ATM's.

Ever is a long time. I use the ATMs in the Caliente casinos. Or the HSBC on Revo during the daytime.

[Samurai0907]

Ever is a long time. I use the ATMs in the Caliente casinos. Or the HSBC on Revo during the daytime.Those are safe places, but I don't even carry any extra credit cards or atm cards with me down there.

Why not get your cash here and not mess those? Unless, I guess you're having a bad day at Caliente.

[Roaddog]

New Body
CALLE 8VA Y AV. D #7903
RAMPA INDEPENDENCIA ZONA CENTRO

WWW.NEWBODY.COM.MX

They also take credit cards but as you know not advised.

Hope this helps

Sincerely Roaddog

[Jddamigos]

I think I'm heading down tomorrow.

Anyone else going?I might stroll on down after work tomorrow. Or maybe saturday, how many heads you have going. Sorry I couldn't PM, I havn't paid the 19.95 yet lol.

[Samurai0907]

Ever is a long time. I use the ATMs in the Caliente casinos. Or the HSBC on Revo during the daytime.Thoe spots are ok, but it's dangerous on the streets and I wouldn't take an atm or cc there anyway.

Just take cash, cdl, bc and keys.

[Efjayel]

Think you can point out the location on this map? Cross streets and such?

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/315/tj2ag6.gif

[Super Gato]

Those are safe places, but I don't even carry any extra credit cards or atm cards with me down there.

Why not get your cash here and not mess those? Unless, I guess you're having a bad day at Caliente.

When I'm down there several days I'm not going to deal with la linea just to get more money from an ATM in San Ysidro unless I'm crossing anyway. I usually keep my cards in my room and only take the money I need and an ID to the zona after dark.

Sure if you're just going down for a few hours you can hit an ATM on the US side.

I wouldn't use a credit card in a bar/club/massage parlor in TJ ever. Many of these types of places will add a "service fee" upwards of 10% on top of whatever goods or services you are buying (I heard a strip club in Puerto Vallarta charged 30%). I only use my card trusted establishments (nice hotels, etc).

[Samurai0907]

When I'm down there several days I'm not going to deal with la linea just to get more money from an ATM in San Ysidro unless I'm crossing anyway. I usually keep my cards in my room and only take the money I need and an ID to the zona after dark.

Sure if you're just going down for a few hours you can hit an ATM on the US side.

I wouldn't use a credit card in a bar/club/massage parlor in TJ ever. Many of these types of places will add a "service fee" upwards of 10% on top of whatever goods or services you are buying (I heard a strip club in Puerto Vallarta charged 30%). I only use my card trusted establishments (nice hotels, etc).Oh yeah, if you're there for multiple days and don't want to keep crossing (a pain), then I guess you have to carry and use your atm.

I never take any cc's, so no temptation to get ripped off.

[Sgt Perv]

I only carry and use an ATM card to checking account only.

Never a major cc or a ATM to saving.

With checking ATM you are very limited to lose.

[Beverly Hills]

Ok, I can't get enough of it down there. In fact, I'm considering getting an apartment there.

Saw my two favorites (one of them stayed with me by the way all of the 3 nights), but tried a new one last night, Lizette. Awesome body, tall, dark brown (maybe black) hair, beautiful lips, spoke little English.

She started out on the agressive side in bed, super hot, but I slowed her down a bit and it was perfect from there.

I will probably take her for the night on my next trip.

I would give her a 9 face, 10 body, 9 performance.

By the way, last night before I took off with my gal, they had a Boa show, it was pretty interesting and I couldn't help but wonder how that Boa wasn't going to kill the poor girl.

In retrospect, this having had been my first weekend trip down there, although there were much more girls, I think I still prefer to trip down there during the week when there is less smoke and less crowd.

[Beverly Hills]

By the way, went to Las Chavallas for the first time Saturday night for about 20 minutes. What a shithole. The bathroom had bugs in it and the whole damn place stunk, even the girls looked dirty, older, lots of tattoos. The place was filled with scruffy Mexican guys and some American looking clients, but more of the "I'm a convict living in TJ" variety.

[Beverly Hills]

Oh yeah, if you're there for multiple days and don't want to keep crossing (a pain), then I guess you have to carry and use your atm.

I never take any cc's, so no temptation to get ripped off.I would rather take plenty of cash down there, keep it in the hotel safe rather than not have enough and have to use an ATM. If they want to rip me off, go ahead, it will be recovered. God forbid I get into trouble or have some sort of emergency, I want to know I can access my money.

Even if I went down for one day, I think I would still get a safe hotel room that I could use sort of as a home base. To keep cc's in, extra cash, a clean bathroom to use, etc.

[Sgt Perv]

Sometimes walking around with a lot of cash can get you in trouble. If policia stops you with a lot of cash on you , they will hassle you. They will think you are there for more then chicas. More then $200 is to much money. ATM to checking account seems safest bet to me. If you start off with $200 cash and have an ATM with a limit of $300 per day , that is more then enough money to partake in the pleasures of TJ. If policia catches you with ATM the most they can get you to bribe them with is $300. You can always always call your bank and adjust the amount to your personnel satisfaction.

[Efjayel]

I hide my money. And not just common places like my shoes or anything like that. Some ingenious locations that the police would never think of looking. No not where the sun don't shine.

Basically I make hidden pockets on certain parts of my clothes and add one large or a few bills so if patted down, the cash isn't noticed. And when I get low in cash, I'll go to the restroom stall and take it out. If I'm going to the room with a chica, I'll go in the restroom to access the money without her seeing where I hide it.

[Chacachaca]

I hide my money. And not just common places like my shoes or anything like that. Some ingenious locations that the police would never think of looking. No not where the sun don't shine.

Basically I make hidden pockets on certain parts of my clothes and add one large or a few bills so if patted down, the cash isn't noticed. And when I get low in cash, I'll go to the restroom stall and take it out. If I'm going to the room with a chica, I'll go in the restroom to access the money without her seeing where I hide it.

I his mine in shorts underneath my regular pants.

[Sgt Perv]

Carrying your medical insurance card is not a bad idea either.

Because you never know. Just keep it with your ID.

[Beverly Hills]

I just learned about this today and am getting one for $20.

No more having to carry and pull out my big bulky US passport in TJ or stick it in my back pocket hoping it won't fall out or get stolen.

http://www.travel.state.gov/passport/ppt_card/ppt_card_3926.html

[Malo9517]

I just got my new passport in May and planning a trip to Cartagena on 6/18. So instead of carrying it to TJ I brought my expired one. No problem, crossed the border twice with it. One guard just said they can't scan the old one since it is not electronic. But I explained not wanting to loose the new one. NO PROBLEM he said. As far as the passport cards, I ordered one along with my new passport. They said they will should start producing them this month.

Also my daughter lost her passport and when we crossed over she used her birth certificate and her license. They just want proof of citizenship.

[Malo9517]

Took my first day trip to AB around 3PM. It wasn't crowded, but I had to wait to get a seat at the bar. There were a couple of nice chicas walking around. But not the ones on the late shift. No Claudia, no Carla, etc. One chick had a body to die for, but a weird puss.

Hook up with a veteran. I've seen her before but never spoke to her. I thought she said she was 27, but I later learned she was 37. What turned me on to her was that she wore glasses. Evelyn said she was from Vera Cruz and needed to go home to her 7yr old by 5PM. She wanted $70 and I balked. We settled for $60 and arriba we went. She was very friendly, loving and gave me a great massage after. I returned the favor. She almost fell asleep after. But the knock came after 30 minutes. I gave her a $5 propina.

Going during the daytime may be a good idea for those still afraid to get their feet and other parts wet. And I did my usual...I taxied in and taxied out.

Happy and safe mongering!

[Surfnk9]

I hide my money. And not just common places like my shoes or anything like that. Some ingenious locations that the police would never think of looking. No not where the sun don't shine.

Basically I make hidden pockets on certain parts of my clothes and add one large or a few bills so if patted down, the cash isn't noticed. And when I get low in cash, I'll go to the restroom stall and take it out. If I'm going to the room with a chica, I'll go in the restroom to access the money without her seeing where I hide it.

Good idea! I have done the same but with my shoes. A careful placed slit in the tongue of my shoes is my spot. Done right you can take off your shoe, look under the insole, and still not detect the hidden money.

[Commonglass]

I went into Adelitas during the early afternoon. Gina approached me with an aggressive sell. She was sitting pretty close and I couldn't get a good look at her body. Her face looked late 20s/early 30s to me, which is a little old for a bar girl in my book. However, She was engaging, so I bought her a drink and she built her case for why we should go upstairs. She finally proposed $60 for BBBJ and covered sex, and said that if she couldn't make me come in 30 minutes or less the session was free. I often have a hard time completing in that timeframe, so I accepted her deal.

In the light of day, Gina has a tight body and great looking skin. I really underestimated her looks. She also did fantastic work with the BBBJ, including deep throat action. We had a great session, and she finished me off no problem.

[Efjayel]

Yeah, a hidden flap inside the lining of my shoe is also a place I use. There are other things I do. I should write a report on how I prepare for my trips to TJ. It's rather ingenious actually the stuff I do. :p

[Beverly Hills]

Ok, once again I have just returned from TJ. Was there nearly a week!

I am not the best at writing detailed reviews as some of you have maybe noticed but I'll do my best.

I spent time this past week with:

Monica (they call her Monica Lewinsky, although she is far hotter and has a perfect body). When Jorge the announcer announces her though, it sounds like he is saying "Mani", rather "Moni"-which sounds like the first part of Monica.

What an amazing girl. Super hot, speaks great English, and makes me laugh to the point where my stomach hurts (in a good way). She has brown hair, eyes, PERFECT body, great dancer and works the day 12-9 shift. I spent time with her outside the bar throughout the week. Actually that is true of all of the girls I saw this week. If you want to have serious FUN, this is the girl.

Lizette (from Sinaloa)

I think perhaps the prettiest girl at AB, and I have seen all of them by now. She has straight black hair, beautiful lips, piercing eyes, amazing body (not huge breasts), and is probably the best dancer at AB. In the bedroom she tends to be on the wild side. Make her laugh and she has the cutest smile (I tease her about a couple of things and that laugh comes out--so adorable).

Really, a NICE girl.

Pamela

Now, in a previous report I mentioned that my buddy saw her and didn't like her. Well I gave her a chance and had the pleasure of spending time with her and she was absolutely wonderful. Long legs, which shows when she dances around the pole. She often hangs out around the steps to the left of the stage. Also, truly a nice girl and very responsive in bed. She is young-I forget how old, but early 20's. I will spend more time with her.

Diana from AguasCalientes

Ok, I saved the favorite for last. This gal is awesome. Tall blond, big chest, beautiful smile, and probably has THE sweetest demeanor of ANY of the AB girls. I had the BEST time with her in bed and she exudes an extreme level of Mexican warmth and hospitality. I will surely be spending a LOT more time with this woman in the future. She works the night shift, but she does return to her home city every few weeks usually for a week or two at a time so ask the doorman if she is working that night or on vacation.

Now, some of you boneheads have criticized me in the past because I "don't belong here" since I have more money to burn that most of you. From some of the private messages I have received, that is simply not true. So if you have something rude to say, shove it. That being said, here is how I believe I get the best service:

Ok, YES, I do spoil them. Take them shopping at Plaza Rio, etc. But, I also tell them that whenever they sit with me, they can always earn their fichas and relax a little. They have to make those tickets and instead of hustling the other clients for drinks, they know they can hang with me and earn them for the night. The bar guys know to just keep the drinks coming.

When in bed with them, whether it be arriba or at my hotel, there are times when I don't even do the whole act. I have been known to spend some sessions just talking, massaging their feet (no, I don't have a foot fetish), and a little playing around. I go out of my way to make them feel comfortable and make them laugh. I ask them about their kids, since as many of you know; a lot of these women are here because they have little ones to support. I always tell them when they are hanging out sitting with me in the bar drinking that if they see another client or want to do a walk-around to scope out the bar for clients, I am cool, and to go for it because I won't take offense. They are there to make money and work, and I respect that. When treating these ladies with respect, it comes back to you 10 fold believe me.

I have tons of photos of these gals in and out of the bar, but have promised to not post them anywhere:.(Wish you guys could see them though. These girls are awesome.

Cheers,

BH

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[Beverly Hills]

I just learned about this today and am getting one for $20.

No more having to carry and pull out my big bulky US passport in TJ or stick it in my back pocket hoping it won't fall out or get stolen.

http://www.travel.state.gov/passport/ppt_card/ppt_card_3926.htmlBy the way, forgot to mention that last week I went to my local Federal building to apply for the passport card. They took my application and $20 but aren't issuing them yet. They should be in the next month or two and when they do, they are mailing it to me.

[Phordphan]

Ok, once again I have just returned from TJ. Was there nearly a week!

I am not the best at writing detailed reviews as some of you have maybe noticed but I'll do my best.

I spent time this past week with:

Monica (they call her Monica Lewinsky, although she is far hotter and has a perfect body). When Jorge the announcer announces her though, it sounds like he is saying "Mani", rather "Moni"-which sounds like the first part of Monica.

What an amazing girl. Super hot, speaks great English, and makes me laugh to the point where my stomach hurts (in a good way). She has brown hair, eyes, PERFECT body, great dancer and works the day 12-9 shift. I spent time with her outside the bar throughout the week. Actually that is true of all of the girls I saw this week.
If you want to have serious FUN, this is the girl.

Lizette (from Sinaloa)

I think perhaps the prettiest girl at AB, and I have seen all of them by now. She has straight black hair, beautiful lips, piercing eyes, amazing body (not huge breasts), and is probably the best dancer at AB. In the bedroom she tends to be on the wild side. Make her laugh and she has the cutest smile (I tease her about a couple of things and that laugh comes out--so adorable).

Really, a NICE girl.

Pamela

Now, in a previous report I mentioned that my buddy saw her and didn't like her. Well I gave her a chance and had the pleasure of spending time with her and she was absolutely wonderful. Long legs, which shows when she dances around the pole. She often hangs out around the steps to the left of the stage. Also, truly a nice girl and very responsive in bed. She is young-I forget how old, but early 20's. I will spend more time with her.

Diana from AguasCalientes

Ok, I saved the favorite for last. This gal is awesome. Tall blond, big chest, beautiful smile, and probably has THE sweetest demeanor of ANY of the AB girls. I had the BEST time with her in bed and she exudes an extreme level of Mexican warmth and hospitality. I will surely be spending a LOT more time with this woman in the future. She works the night shift, but she does return to her home city every few weeks usually for a week or two at a time so ask the doorman if she is working that night or on vacation.

Now, some of you boneheads have criticized me in the past because I "don't belong here" since I have more money to burn that most of you. From some of the private messages I have received, that is simply not true. So if you have something rude to say, shove it. That being said, here is how I believe I get the best service:

Ok, YES, I do spoil them. Take them shopping at Plaza Rio, etc. But, I also tell them that whenever they sit with me, they can always earn their fichas and relax a little. They have to make those tickets and instead of hustling the other clients for drinks, they know they can hang with me and earn them for the night. The bar guys know to just keep the drinks coming.

When in bed with them, whether it be arriba or at my hotel, there are times when I don't even do the whole act. I have been known to spend some sessions just talking, massaging their feet (no, I don't have a foot fetish), and a little playing around. I go out of my way to make them feel comfortable and make them laugh. I ask them about their kids, since as many of you know; a lot of these women are here because they have little ones to support. I always tell them when they are hanging out sitting with me in the bar drinking that if they see another client or want to do a walk-around to scope out the bar for clients, I am cool, and to go for it because I won't take offense. They are there to make money and work, and I respect that. When treating these ladies with respect, it comes back to you 10 fold believe me.

I have tons of photos of these gals in and out of the bar, but have promised to not post them anywhere :-( Wish you guys could see them though...these girls are awesome.

Cheers,

BH

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Sorry, I just have to call b*llsh*t on these sort of reports.

This is an "experiences" and "information" board, but these reports seem to have little of either. They remind me a bit of urban legends - long on vague details, short on specifics. Maybe they actually happened, maybe they didn't.

But, we're supposed to believe that there is a newbie to the TJ scene. When an AB girls strikes his fancy he has sufficient dough to cover each and every of these chica's ficha quota, then some. Diamond Jim Brady has nothing on him. (BTW, these sorts are a dime a dozen in SEA. They get royally fleeced by the girls, who always give extreme GFE, then are royally mocked when their back is turned.)

He shovels money at them for arribas, or just for the privelege of rubbing their feet, but is conveniently vague about the amounts and any other details. He hangs out with them outside of club hours, but is conveniently vague about where and what sort of activities. He has loads of pictures but conveniently promised to post none of them.

If you're on vacation for a week, with virtually unlimited funds. why would you spend a week in TJ? Costa Rica, the DR, Nicaragua, Colombia, Venezuela, all come to mind as MUCH better places for MUCH better chicas. If you can stand the plane ride, the SEA girls will give GFE that the TJ girls haven't dreamed of. But we're suposed to believe that someone with a huge bankroll and a week to blow it picks TJ. Hmm.

If you have money falling out of your ass, there are plenty of putas in clubs all across BH, WH, WLA, SM, and you don't have to deal with the hassles of getting to/from TJ. Of course, if your chauffeur is doing the driving, then I guess it's not that big a deal.

Pardon my cynicism. If I'm the only one who thinks something smells fishy, then I'll retract every word.

PP

[Beverly Hills]

sorry, i just have to call b*llsh*t on these sort of reports.

this is an "experiences" and "information" board, but these reports seem to have little of either. they remind me a bit of urban legends - long on vague details, short on specifics. maybe they actually happened, maybe they didn't.

but, we're supposed to believe that there is a newbie to the tj scene. when an ab girls strikes his fancy he has sufficient dough to cover each and every of these chica's ficha quota, then some. diamond jim brady has nothing on him. (btw, these sorts are a dime a dozen in sea. they get royally fleeced by the girls, who always give extreme gfe, then are royally mocked when their back is turned.)

he shovels money at them for arribas, or just for the privelege of rubbing their feet, but is conveniently vague about the amounts and any other details. he hangs out with them outside of club hours, but is conveniently vague about where and what sort of activities. he has loads of pictures but conveniently promised to post none of them.

if you're on vacation for a week, with virtually unlimited funds. why would you spend a week in tj? costa rica, the dr, nicaragua, colombia, venezuela, all come to mind as much better places for much better chicas. if you can stand the plane ride, the sea girls will give gfe that the tj girls haven't dreamed of. but we're suposed to believe that someone with a huge bankroll and a week to blow it picks tj. hmm.

if you have money falling out of your ass, there are plenty of putas in clubs all across bh, wh, wla, sm, and you don't have to deal with the hassles of getting to/from tj. of course, if your chauffeur is doing the driving, then i guess it's not that big a deal.

pardon my cynicism. if i'm the only one who thinks something smells fishy, then i'll retract every word.

ppi clearly desire more than just a quick fuck. i enjoy the overall experience and the company. yes, true, i could pay for it here in la. but it is too close to home for me. tj is perfect, a 2 hour drive away and in another country. i have never paid for sex in any of the countries you've named and frankly, i prefer to have a few regular girls to see somewhat nearby than random women rep001tered in various 3rd world countries. maybe i am a dime a dozen and a fool as you've mentioned. maybe the girls mock me "royally" behind my back. i doubt it but i don't care. they make me feel good and i have fun so what's it to you how i spend my money phordphan? you want details on more? i really don't feel that all of my experiences are any of your business. this is a public board. i can tell you that 3 of the girls took me out of town for a night to a nearby beach town. some have spent the night in my hotel complete with breakfast the next morning. would you like to know where and what we ate for breakfast? or would you like to know that i fucked one of them in the ass? if my report is not complete enough for you phordphan, that's cool, move on to the next report. it may be interesting to another member though.

yes, i am a newbie. i have also spent many many days over the last couple of months down there. i actually like it down there as there are much nicer places to enjoy outside of the zona norte, which reminds me something of hell.

i am also not sharing any of my photos because i have promised the girls that i wouldn't. you can call them putas phordphan, but i see them as girls just trying to make a living. girls who may have not had the opportunity to go to good schools like some of our sisters, daughters and wives.

i don't know why you and some of the other board members choose to be so negative. aren't we all just trying to have a good time?

cheers,

bh

[Tjmee]

Ya I don't really believe him either, 1 week in TJ? And your from beverly hills. Supposedly. LOL. I would go to brazil or Colombia where the girls are better.

[Member #4647]

I agree, why TJ? Anybody with 2 grand to spend can go to SEA for a week and nail 10-15 girls.

[Beverly Hills]

I agree, why TJ? Anybody with 2 grand to spend can go to SEA for a week and nail 10-15 girls.Are you guys not listenting to ANYTHING that I am saying?

I am not interested in quanity. I am also not interested in other countries. I have a thing for Mexican girls and am REALLY not attracted to Asians-at all.

I have PM'd a highly reputable member on this board for some advice. If he and I are to hang out sometime in TJ, I am sure he will vouch for me on this board. I don't give a shit about what you boys think though. I try to give back by reporting, but it really does nothing for me. Perhaps it's best if I just read all of your reports on doing Tijuana on $5 a day, especially Phordphans.

And by the way, I spend much much more that 2 grand in a week. My hotel bill alone came to nearly that much.

[Efjayel]

Lol, you go fjordfan. As for 90210, don't take things so seriously. In a board especially like this one you can expect there to be non believers. I don't know who these people where who PM'd you just to tell you that you where in fact not rich but that just stupid. I would simply ignore them.

But I do agree that that you should be a bit more detailed on the stuff that happened. For the most part, most people here do that. But I guess it's really your choice as to how much info you want to give.

I also agree with some of the other people. If you have money to burn, go somewhere besides TJ. Brazil is way better. I know a guy that goes there and you wouldn't believe the stories he tells me.

I think you mentioned previously that TJ was your first mongering experience. Thats cool. Now that you're learning about the trade you can move up to something better. I'd be skipping TJ if I had the money. Unfortunately I don't. And sadly I don't even have the money to currently go to TJ.

By the way, how much did you blow for this week of Tj fun?

[Phordphan]

i clearly desire more than just a quick fuck. i enjoy the overall experience and the company. yes, true, i could pay for it here in la...but it is too close to home for me. tj is perfect, a 2 hour drive away and in another country. i have never paid for sex in any of the countries you've named and frankly, i prefer to have a few regular girls to see somewhat nearby than random women rep001tered in various 3rd world countries. maybe i am a dime a dozen and a fool as you've mentioned...maybe the girls mock me "royally" behind my back. i doubt it but i don't care. they make me feel good and i have fun so what's it to you how i spend my money phordphan? you want details on more? i really don't feel that all of my experiences are any of your business. this is a public board. i can tell you that 3 of the girls took me out of town for a night to a nearby beach town. some have spent the night in my hotel complete with breakfast the next morning. would you like to know where and what we ate for breakfast? or would you like to know that i fucked one of them in the ass? if my report is not complete enough for you phordphan, that's cool, move on to the next report. it may be interesting to another member though.

yes, i am a newbie. i have also spent many many days over the last couple of months down there. i actually like it down there as there are much nicer places to enjoy outside of the zona norte, which reminds me something of hell.

i am also not sharing any of my photos because i have promised the girls that i wouldn't. you can call them putas phordphan, but i see them as girls just trying to make a living. girls who may have not had the opportunity to go to good schools like some of our sisters, daughters and wives.

i don't know why you and some of the other board members choose to be so negative. aren't we all just trying to have a good time?

cheers,

bhwell, by the looks of things, i'm not the only one who finds the postings a bit specious.

however, i'm always willing to give people the benefit of the doubt. i just realized that we may be dealing with someone with only a public school education, so let me endeavor to explain why these reports don't ring true.

but first, a quick follow-up.

1. you haven't paid for sex in any of these countries, because you haven't been to any of these countries. there's nothing wrong with that, not everybody's been everywhere. just don't try to play clintonian word games.

2. you can doubt all you want about the girls laughing behind a plm's back, but, again, you haven't been there and seen it. i have. don't take my word for it, check around.

ok. i don't have time to go into too much detail, so let's just examine a couple of examples. your report states that you go into ab, throw around wads of cash and leave with your fave for the night. yet you won't go into detail. let's discuss that. nobody cares how many times you fucked her in the ass, and what positions. frankly, most of us find those sorts of reports boring. but i suspect you already know that and are just trying to deflect the question.

those of us who have actually done tlns know that you can't just go into a club, pick a girl, buy lots of drinks and waltz out the front door with her in tow, trailing dollar bills, to head for your hotel (and an anonymous hotel at that). it doesn't work that way. so, folks legitimately wonder how it was done. what are the mechanics involved? more detail in this aspect either will make your stories more believable, or will show them up as bs.

again, those of us who have done tlns, shopping trips, etc., etc., and those who haven't, like to know the pricing. if you dropped a grand, you may be castigated as a moronic spendthrift, but you may actually be believed. if you only dropped a couple hundred, then you may earn the envy of all the board members and, again, be believed. but answers which are the equivalent of "if you have to ask, you can't afford it" come across as condescending and arrogant. not a good way to win friends and influence people.

it's ok to be a newbie. it's ok to make newbie mistakes, as long as you learn from them. it's not ok to jump in, claim that you always get great gfes cuz you outspend everybody, and give snide answers to legit questions. it's up to you whether you want your contributions taken seriously, or whether they remain in the fantasy/braggadocio realm.

pp

[Beverly Hills]

EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted because I do not allow "Goodbye Forever" posts in the forum, generally because these posts amount to nothing other than a public "Kiss Off" from Serial Antagonists who are trying to stir up one final round of trouble before they switch to another alias. Thanks!

[Efjayel]

Lol, I missed the "Good Bye Forever" that 90210 wrote before the admin removed it. Oh well.

So long Brandon Walsh and happy mongering in the future. Just one re-cap though. Like I said before, you need to lighten up and not take things so seriously. People are not here to kiss your ass and agree with everything you have to say. that goes for this board and in real life. Gotta come to terms with this early in life otherwise you'll end up making mountains out of molehills and think people are always against you for every little disagreement.

And fjordfan was right in pointing out how at some points you like to somewhat brag about how you spend money. Regardless, good luck and perhaps someday we will bump into each other at one of the clubs.

On a side note...

I guess people here believe my stories cause I usually tend to strike out. A more believable outcome. :D

[Phordphan]

Lol, I missed the "Good Bye Forever" that 90210 wrote before the admin removed it. Oh well.

So long Brandon Walsh and happy mongering in the future. Just one re-cap though. Like I said before, you need to lighten up and not take things so seriously. People are not here to kiss your ass and agree with everything you have to say. that goes for this board and in real life. Gotta come to terms with this early in life otherwise you'll end up making mountains out of molehills and think people are always against you for every little disagreement.

And fjordfan was right in pointing out how at some points you like to somewhat brag about how you spend money. Regardless, good luck and perhaps someday we will bump into each other at one of the clubs.

On a side note...

I guess people here believe my stories cause I usually tend to strike out. A more believable outcome. :D

Rats. I missed it, too.

But it's still fishy that, instead of modifying his posting style, or vigorously defending his position, his grabs his marbles and storms off. Either he really is quite wealthy and nobody's ever stood up to him before, or he really is a poseur who was nabbed embroidering the truth. Who knows?

PP

[DrBrew1]

For all you guys that feel that the chicas in TJ are way below the chicas of the rest of the world i have to disagree.The first 6 months of this year i have been to Costa Rica,Monterrey,Medellin,and ofcourse TJ.The hottest chicas in TJ could hold there own in those other places.

[Efjayel]

I think he mentioned in another post that hes only 19 or so. Can't really expect much from a person at that age. He's still learning. But whatever, life goes on whether hes here or not. So fjord, whens your next planned tj excursion? :p

[Phordphan]

I think he mentioned in another post that hes only 19 or so. Can't really expect much from a person at that age. He's still learning. But whatever, life goes on whether hes here or not. So fjord, whens your next planned tj excursion? :p

Hmm, didn't see the age thing. But it would make sense.

I was gonna try to get down on Thu after the Pads game, but my friend got the willies so bad after the federales scared him the last time he was at AB, that I'm not even going to try.

A quick trip next mid-week is a possibility. I'll have the better part of a weekend in mid-July.

Work's been really busy the last few months. I'm not complaining, but it sure eats into one's "free" time. :)

How about you?

PP

[Efjayel]

Finally starting to roll into money again so I was thinking Sunday of 4th of July weekend. If not, the week after that. I'm gonna have to look into the bus schedule thing though cause it will be too expensive to drive with how much gas currently costs.

[Mark_Simon]

If you gotta worry about bussin it over driving to save a couple of bucs then you might want to keep rolling a littel longer.

[DJ FourMoney]

Finally starting to roll into money again so I was thinking Sunday of 4th of July weekend. If not, the week after that. I'm gonna have to look into the bus schedule thing though cause it will be too expensive to drive with how much gas currently costs.

I'm thinking either Wed or Thurs after the 4th. I get paid that Friday but I believe TJ will be far too crowded to get good selection.

Just a small question, not including fuel and eating, is $200 enough for a decent amount of fun? I'm thinking 2-3 ladies 30/60 mins per...

[Phordphan]

If you gotta worry about bussin it over driving to save a couple of bucs then you might want to keep rolling a littel longer.

It ain't a "couple of bucs" anymore. A tank of gas is approaching $75. I think FJL lives farther away than I, so it probably costs him even more.

Hmm, $40 for the bus, $75 + parking to drive, you do the math. An extra $40 - $50 goes a long way in TJ.

PP

[Phordphan]

I'm thinking either Wed or Thurs after the 4th. I get paid that Friday but I believe TJ will be far too crowded to get good selection.

Just a small question, not including fuel and eating, is $200 enough for a decent amount of fun? I'm thinking 2-3 ladies 30/60 mins per...

Not in AB. Not if you are going to have anything to drink, Not if you're going to buy them any drinks. Figure another C-note for 3 chicas.

PP

[Tjmee]

I couldn't seem to find the schedules for the santa ana bus depot departure and return dates.

[DJ FourMoney]

Not in AB. Not if you are going to have anything to drink, Not if you're going to buy them any drinks. Figure another C-note for 3 chicas.

PP

Hmmmm;

I don't drink, not often enough to consider it necessary to have good time.

I'll look up the cost of "Lady Drinks", which I am sure is around here someplace and factor that in.

I don't think I can swing another "Benjamin" by mid week after the 4th.

Another question?

I live in SFV and a bus ride is a long way down and back up just to be with 2-3 chicas for around 30 mins per, what else are you doing down there? It doesn't matter how much time you spend in FKK's because of all the spa/wellness activities, free drinks (no alky) and usually food.

I'm not trying to directly compare but I'll have a tough time doing that and it might be unfair but I'm only human.

If $200 is just not enough to fill up your time down there, just how much do you recommend?

[Sgt Perv]

A fun time in the zona can be had for two hundred especially if you do not drink. Window shopping in the alley for the chicas. In and out the various clubs (CC,HK and AB) Chicas at AB with room 72 and alley girls with room 32. Mix and match, a good time can be had on $200. Chica drinks are $6-$7

[Tjmee]

Hmmmm;

If $200 is just not enough to fill up your time down there, just how much do you recommend?I have gotten pretty far with 200 bucks. Not even 200 really. 3 girls and some drinks.

[Efjayel]

If you want 3 girls, you're gonna need about $300 bucks. Unless you go with a SG, then you can figure a few bucks less.

It basically breaks down like this...

$60 for a bar girl
$13 dollars for room (1/2 hour) plus cum boy tip.
$15 for drinks, both you and the lady drink plus tip.

So that's about $90 dollars for each session.

Easily put it can be about $100 dollars for each girl. Of course this is not considering eating, extra drinks, parking, gasoline and misc. cause you will probably buy extra drinks for other girls.

If you go with a SG it can be considerately less but I don't like the hassles dealing with Street Girls.

[Member #3157]

$300dls. for 3 girls at Adelita's is pretty much right on. I don't drink myself,so I order Agua mineral con limon $3.50per. Remember you don't have to select a girl right out of the gate, take your time take in the scenery. I like to interview the girl first so fichas are almost mandatory but you might get some insight into her performance upstairs.

You might want to take a look at Transpoprtes Intercalifornias. as a bus option. From Santa Ana to the line in San Ysidro express is $28dls. round trip they make a dozen runs a day and they have service in L.A. as well.

As for other options on things to do between girls, you can get a 45min. massage (ligit) for $25 plus tip at Azteca or Viva mex. I like sports you can go to the sports book and bet as little as $2dls. and watch a game and have a cheap beer while you charge your batterys. another option is The Zona Rio a nice mall, lots of eye candy, catch a movie in a nice theater for half what you pay in the U.S.

[Mark_Simon]

HM,

6 months ago tank of gas 60 dollars

Today 75= 15 dollars difference. If 15 dolars is killing you, than, well you should still go.


It ain't a "couple of bucs" anymore. A tank of gas is approaching $75. I think FJL lives farther away than I, so it probably costs him even more.

Hmm, $40 for the bus, $75 + parking to drive, you do the math. An extra $40 - $50 goes a long way in TJ.

PP

[Phordphan]

Hmmmm;

I don't drink, not often enough to consider it necessary to have good time.

I'll look up the cost of "Lady Drinks", which I am sure is around here someplace and factor that in.

I don't think I can swing another "Benjamin" by mid week after the 4th.

Another question?

I live in SFV and a bus ride is a long way down and back up just to be with 2-3 chicas for around 30 mins per, what else are you doing down there? It doesn't matter how much time you spend in FKK's because of all the spa/wellness activities, free drinks (no alky) and usually food.

I'm not trying to directly compare but I'll have a tough time doing that and it might be unfair but I'm only human.

If $200 is just not enough to fill up your time down there, just how much do you recommend?

FJ's breakdown is pretty good. Even if you get them to $50 per session, you're still not gonna get 3 for $200. Now, the SGs are a viable option if you go in knowing you have to negotiate for everything up front, and it's a 15 or 20 minute "quickie."

If you like sports, it's not bad hanging out in one of the Caliente sports books for a while, taking in a ball game, dog racing, horse racing, etc. Maybe win a few bux. Strolling around Revu can be interesting, and there are some cheap places to get $1 Coronas, etc., and just relax a bit. A massage is an option, but it costs. Movies are an option, but my not be any fun if you're alone.

You can save a bit by NOT going to AB, but trying Tropical, Las Chavelas, etc., but you're gonna need a bit of Espanol and the chicas may not be to your liking. That is, if you're into the fake chi-chis and fake asses of AB, you wont find too many at the other clubs. But if you like 'em a little darker and a little chubbier, well... :) Better attitudes, generally, too. But to each his own.

PP

[Tjmee]

You can save a bit by NOT going to AB, but trying Tropical, Las Chavelas, etc., but you're gonna need a bit of Espanol and the chicas may not be to your liking. That is, if you're into the fake chi-chis and fake asses of AB, you wont find too many at the other clubs. But if you like 'em a little darker and a little chubbier, well... :) Better attitudes, generally, too. But to each his own.

PPI think I may try tropical or las chavelas pretty soon, there have been some pretty good looking girls in there.

[Efjayel]

Where are the theaters at?

[Phordphan]

Where are the theaters at?The Cinepolis. I forget the name of the mall. It's over near the racetrack, I think. Not far. My ex-fave always took me in the collectivo, so I don't know what a taxi there would cost.

I'm sure somebody here knows the name of the mall.

PP

[DJ FourMoney]

FJ's breakdown is pretty good. Even if you get them to $50 per session, you're still not gonna get 3 for $200. Now, the SGs are a viable option if you go in knowing you have to negotiate for everything up front, and it's a 15 or 20 minute "quickie."

If you like sports, it's not bad hanging out in one of the Caliente sports books for a while, taking in a ball game, dog racing, horse racing, etc. Maybe win a few bux. Strolling around Revu can be interesting, and there are some cheap places to get $1 Coronas, etc., and just relax a bit. A massage is an option, but it costs. Movies are an option, but my not be any fun if you're alone.

You can save a bit by NOT going to AB, but trying Tropical, Las Chavelas, etc., but you're gonna need a bit of Espanol and the chicas may not be to your liking. That is, if you're into the fake chi-chis and fake asses of AB, you wont find too many at the other clubs. But if you like 'em a little darker and a little chubbier, well... :) Better attitudes, generally, too. But to each his own.

PPHmmm, might have to wait until the end of the month then. Kinda prepared for that just in case $200 didn't go too far. I pretty much feel GFE is required after I got it twice in German FKK's and I didn't find the RLD in Frankfurt too my overall liking and its just as CHEAP as TJ ($45US at the time I went last year) but its workable...

There's another spot I am going to hit down in TJ and since I rather not mention what or where it is, I'll need money leftover for that venture. Caliente Sports, I forgot all about that! I used to be a diehard "Jungle" fan and used to listen too Philly Billy Werndell and Steve "Raider/UCLA" Hartmann and used to hear those ads all the time.

So if $200 isn't enough I guess $300 is good enough... For roughly $600US I went to FKK Miami (1 girl for an hour 100E, FKK Oase (2 girls, 1 for an hour 100E two shots on goal, GFE), FKK Palace (100% GFE and Hot easy 9 100E)( AND hit the RLD two different times (4 total women 35E for 20 mins)

I'm a car nut, so much beyond $200 I start thinking about what to add to my car. Lucky most of the HP mods are done (390hp/400+ft tq) when dollars start increasing, I personally think "Pussy" is worth no more than $100US for an hour, since I got GFE for 100E ($135US at the time) twice and the dollar is worth less now.

Just how likely is GFE anyway?

[Phordphan]

Just how likely is GFE anyway?At AB, IMHO, not very. Some will not agree, but this thread is full of complaints of mechanical/rushed/pay-up-front service.

More likely at CC, Tropical. More likely after a couple of drinks. More likely with longer sessions, like an hour. I usually do hours, and RARELY give more than $80.

PP

[Efjayel]

The Cinepolis. I forget the name of the mall. It's over near the racetrack, I think. Not far. My ex-fave always took me in the collectivo, so I don't know what a taxi there would cost.

I'm sure somebody here knows the name of the mall.

PPI'm guessing it's not walking distance from the Zona, right?


Hmmm, might have to wait until the end of the month then. Kinda prepared for that just in case $200 didn't go too far. I pretty much feel GFE is required after I got it twice in German FKK's and I didn't find the RLD in Frankfurt too my overall liking and its just as CHEAP as TJ ($45US at the time I went last year) but its workable...

There's another spot I am going to hit down in TJ and since I rather not mention what or where it is, I'll need money leftover for that venture. Caliente Sports, I forgot all about that! I used to be a diehard "Jungle" fan and used to listen too Philly Billy Werndell and Steve "Raider/UCLA" Hartmann and used to hear those ads all the time.

So if $200 isn't enough I guess $300 is good enough... For roughly $600US I went to FKK Miami (1 girl for an hour 100E, FKK Oase (2 girls, 1 for an hour 100E two shots on goal, GFE), FKK Palace (100% GFE and Hot easy 9 100E)( AND hit the RLD two different times (4 total women 35E for 20 mins)

I'm a car nut, so much beyond $200 I start thinking about what to add to my car. Lucky most of the HP mods are done (390hp/400+ft tq) when dollars start increasing, I personally think "Pussy" is worth no more than $100US for an hour, since I got GFE for 100E ($135US at the time) twice and the dollar is worth less now.

Just how likely is GFE anyway?Dude, i'm sorry but your post doesn't really make sense. It's like your talking about one thing then end the sentence with some other topic. It's funny actually. :)

Anyways, GFE at Adelitas is possible but mostly depends on the chica and their mood. Like someone already mentioned, most are the "wham bam thank you ma'am" lot. As soon as you take them upstairs, they'll be looking to finish quickly and go back down for the next sucker to come along.

But from personal experience I can say that GFE is proportional to looks. The less hot they are, the better GFE experience you'll receive. I usually stay away from the hotter girls because they tend to be less friendly. But like always, there are the exceptions. Being a repeat customer to one girl can help you out a lot as well. It allows them to open up to you and want to give you a better gfe service.

[DJ FourMoney]

I'm guessing it's not walking distance from the Zona, right?

Dude, i'm sorry but your post doesn't really make sense. It's like your talking about one thing then end the sentence with some other topic. It's funny actually. :)

Anyways, GFE at Adelitas is possible but mostly depends on the chica and their mood. Like someone already mentioned, most are the "wham bam thank you ma'am" lot. As soon as you take them upstairs, they'll be looking to finish quickly and go back down for the next sucker to come along.

But from personal experience I can say that GFE is proportional to looks. The less hot they are, the better GFE experience you'll receive. I usually stay away from the hotter girls because they tend to be less friendly. But like always, there are the exceptions. Being a repeat customer to one girl can help you out a lot as well. It allows them to open up to you and want to give you a better gfe service.


What part of it made no sense? lol

I tend to post like that, sorry.... My mind goes in several directions and I post as those thoughts come out.

When you say less attractive girls tend to give better service, that's general P4P rule of engagement I have found. The girls I banged in Germany were women I felt I could pull under normal circumstances and I followed that train of though, that means I occasionally end up with a "stunna" in my view, but could be one in others minds because I tend to have good taste - ;)

In any event, in FKK GFE is likely not unlikely no matter how many visits, I went to three only once and got GFE two times and "Good Service" once but she didn't speak English...

Thanks for the tips...

[Tjmee]

What is GFE to you guys?

[Gilgamesh]

Today's line was too big returning around 5pm. I paid a guy 5 bucks and I thought he was leading me to a bus, but instead he just cut me up to right before the turnstile gate I hadn't seen before. So I'm the gringo putz who did that today...my bad. However wasn't stupid enough to turn back around after I figured out what he was doing.
P.S. When does the line get small on weekends? I should have gone back to AB and gotten another hottie...Speaking of which:
I thought her name was Denise, but thatmust have been someone else I had been talking to earlier. A few beers can cloud things a bit. I'm pretty sure her name is Jackie. She's from I can't remember where, but she said Guadlahara was the biggest nearby. It had two pieces to the name of her home. She doesn't understand too much English for small talk, but enough to make me happy. She has long dirty blonde or light brown hair. C cup implants and dirty fuck me eyes on an otherwise innocent face. She's around average height with those shoes they all love to wear and she had on white stalkings...which she left on. :) For those who like their balls sucked, I'd say she's one to try. I didn't discuss, negotiate, and I paid up front. I also had a great time. She started with minor uncovered BJ and some serious ball licking and sucking. She then rolled the cover on and continued, but asked it if I like to be sucked slow or fast. After a bit of that she mounted me and moved, grooved and moaned in all the right ways. Then on to doggie and her innocence was no longer there. "Fuck me" seems to be some of her best English. Then on to mish where her eyes really got a hold of me. I like the mirrors but she commanded my attention by starring at me. Her eyes are definatley bedroom eyes and I highly recommend.

[Phordphan]

I'm guessing it's not walking distance from the Zona, right?


Sorry, I had a brain fart when I posted earlier. It's the Plaza Rio center.

http://www.plazariotijuana.com.mx/

It's not far, but probably not within walking distance, unless you like to walk a lot.

I'd guess about $3 in a taxi libre.

PP

[Gilgamesh]

What is GFE to you guys?

DFK,passion and forgetting I paid for this. A couple of times we started before the hat was on. That kind of passion. The hat came on as soon as I got enough blood flowing to the big head. Always remember where you are because if you think it'll be safe this one time...it won't. I've been with over 30 women in TJ and I've never caught a thing. I was recently tested too so I consider myself lucky more than anything.

[DJ FourMoney]

DFK,passion and forgetting I paid for this. A couple of times we started before the hat was on. That kind of passion. The hat came on as soon as I got enough blood flowing to the big head. Always remember where you are because if you think it'll be safe this one time...it won't. I've been with over 30 women in TJ and I've never caught a thing. I was recently tested too so I consider myself lucky more than anything.

Don't baggin it huh?

The GFE from the German girl at FKK Oase was like banging my GF and it was no act, she was into it, we kissed passionately, did many positions, she grinded into my pelvis, sucked me off more and better than any GF I've had and was really cute (to me) very girl-next-door, not fat, but not model thin either, just like a girl you find in any mall or nightclub you dance with.

The GFE from a Hungarian girl was more PSE (Porn Star Experience) but we DFK as well and she dug how I pounded her doggy style. Now she was a stunna for somebody at my level (just being realistic fellas!) tight body, golden tan all over, very pretty green eyes

Both girls were blond, in fact the Polish girl at Oase I had before I left was blond....

Maybe Mexico will be a let down? lol jk, I like chicas too!

[Dornyone]

Along the lines of what Gilgamesh posted, this OKC hoe laments her HIV positive status

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH5KnOoAfKc&feature=user
Don't let those $2 beers get you so careless that you wind up with HIV. As for DFK, think Hepatitis.

Like SCUBA diving, this can be a high risk pastime but with precautions and discipline we'll still be mongering for years to come.

[Dermdoc58]

After meeting you-- last nite in front of AB-- I was sad that I am not a psychiatrist.

Because you would single handedly pay all my expenses for like a year (including hookers and rooms and booze) for me and my friends

Look I am no Dr. Phil-

But I recognize when someone is way fucked up--

Not that you arent a nice person-- (I won't OUT you)- but you need some serious therapy-

My friends and I are willing to put your image on a milk container-- and ask people to donate for your care.

Best wishes

Derm doc

[Gilgamesh]

Don't baggin it huh?
I always put the hat on with P4P, but there have been a few times that while making out I've been inside her and then pulled it out realizing I'm being an Idiot. Once the condom is on then right back to where we were. A few years ago I had a not too attractive one approach me and offer FS no condom for 30 and I said "No thank you." Back then the "hotties" would go up for 50 and she didn't sweeten the deal by wanting to go uncovered.
I did go down on a hottie once and I was worried for months until I got checked out. I know how many other mongers may have been there before me.
It was just my turn.

[Efjayel]

90210

After meeting you-- last nite in front of AB-- I was sad that I am not a psychiatrist.

Because you would single handedly pay all my expenses for like a year (including hookers and rooms and booze) for me and my friends

Look I am no Dr. Phil-

But I recognize when someone is way fucked up--

Not that you arent a nice person-- (I won't OUT you)- but you need some serious therapy-

My friends and I are willing to put your image on a milk container-- and ask people to donate for your care.

Best wishes

Derm doc


Wow.

According to those who previously knew you, they think you aren't right in the head. So if you found someone who you think is messed up, sure gets me to thinking to just how messed up that person must be.

[Tjmee]

I was at AB yesterday and it was pretty dead, HK is renovating the other side now, but there was this chick at AB she was a fcuking psycho, her name was Sharon I think she was old like 38 but she said she was like 24 LOL. I don't know if she was on crack or something cause she was in a rush talking all fast too. She was wearing a white knitted top and skirt any of you know her?

[MrBlac]

Is there a separate charge for the room?

If so, how much?

I'm planing on going there in Aug.

[Dreams]

Is there a separate charge for the room?

If so, how much?

I'm planing on going there in Aug.
Have you bothered reading ANY post? I am in a good mood , so will answer: 12 US plus 1 for the cum man...

[USSmaximus]

I heard Malena has left the biz, any truth to that? Sure hope not, I'm going down in 3 weeks and have been jonesing for her again.

Thanks,
Max

[Ath Trainer]

I was in Adelitas Friday night. Lots of chicas to choose from as the night went on. After drinking a beer, and checking out the possibilities, I narrowed my choices down to four. I was getting ready to go for a walk to check out the alley and Chicago, when one of my choices made eye contact w/me, smiled, and said "hola". I took the opportunity to chat w/her a little. I believe her name was Liliana, and she was from Puerto Valerta. She said she was here about 2 months. She was petite, dark hair/skin, with a tight body, and what felt like small implants when I leaned against her. She was fairly young, had a sweet smile, friendly, and spoke good English.

When I got back from my walk, She was gone, and never returned. This is one time when thinking with my BIG head was a mistake. I ended up with another girl who was a disappointment. She was medium height, long brown hair w/a few blonde streaks, light skinned, young, fake tits, flat stomach and small butt. She had beautiful eyes, and a great smile. When she went up with a guy earlier (I like to check out how they leave, and how long they are upstairs) she held his hand and was gone at least 30 minutes. Once upstairs she started with a kiss (good sign) but soon asked for the $ (not a good sign). With her clothes off, she had big aeroleas, a scar through her right nipple, and one on her stomach (possibly from lipo, not baby or appendix). She used alot of lube, and her pussy seemed loose. She would make eye contact and smile alot, but I was not feeling it. Ended up asking for a hj. She obliged, but thought she was pumping water out of a well. She thought the harder she pulled, the better. She gave alot of effort, but could not complete the mission.

My confidence was now low, so I wanted to get a sure thing. There was a girl downstairs who I had been with twice before. She is a bit older, not the hottest one in the house, but knows how to do it. Of course when I get back downstairs, she is not around. A few minutes later, she walks in wearing her street clothes, and leaves with 2 Americans. I ended up going over to Chicago, where I found a young spinner who quickly brought me back to life (I will report about her in the Chicago section).

[Ninguno Especial]

I was in Adelitas Friday night. I was getting ready to go for a walk to check out the alley and Chicago, when one of my choices made eye contact w/me, smiled, and said "hola". I took the opportunity to chat w/her a little. I believe her name was Liliana, and she was from Puerto Valerta.

I bought her a drink a couple of weeks ago. Pretty and pleasant chica. Highly educated and continueing school I believe. No info on her performance but would like to know if she is as pleasant arriba.

[DrBrew1]

I heard Malena has left the biz, any truth to that? Sure hope not, I'm going down in 3 weeks and have been jonesing for her again.

Thanks,
MaxI have not seen her in several trips this year.

[Dermdoc58]

Last seen in Adelitas with a gringo that was obviously paying for everything

I. E..---- he "rescued" her from a life of prostitution.

Had many a great session with her.

Must say that since her working days-- ie my photos-- she has put a on a few pounds when last seen.

Also have seen her walking in and around TJ-- so she is probably still living in TJ.

I wouldn't count on fucking her when you get to town--

There will be others

So your plan B will work

GOod luck

[Green_Thumb]

Made my quadruple annual trip to SD over the 4th.

Friday. Got to AB around 10pm-thinking it would be dead and the celebration would stay state-side. Wrong! Many guys in the bar but many chicas to choose from also. Went with Bolina or Paulina, short straight hair, braces, very young looking, 20-22, pettite, awesome body & a great tan. $60 + $12 + $1. I have been with her on previous visits and she always delivers.

Stopped by HK, not quite as busy, and not really anyone who grabbed my attention. Downed my entry fee beer and headed for Chicago. Same results as the Hong Kong. Went back to AB. Hooked up with a girl, can't remember her name, but she looked like queen Cleopatra. I called her that and she laughed as she's been told that before. Very attractive gal. 22-24. Nice body, not too skinny, not fat by any means. Had a nice great time. $60 + $12 + $1.

Had some street tacos and taxi'd to the border round 3am.

Observations:

HK is definitely the place to hang out for the new scenery and night club set up. Unfortunately, the girls just don't measure up to AB. Now if they can snag the AB girls, it would definitely be the premiere place to be, in my opinion.

No police presence at the border Fri nite, that was nice.

GT

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[Efjayel]

Last seen in Adelitas with a gringo that was obviously paying for everything

I. E..---- he "rescued" her from a life of prostitution.

Had many a great session with her.

Must say that since her working days-- ie my photos-- she has put a on a few pounds when last seen.

Also have seen her walking in and around TJ-- so she is probably still living in TJ.

I wouldn't count on fucking her when you get to town--

There will be others

So your plan B will work

GOod luck


Now those are a lot better pictures from the many that you've been posting in the foto Gallery. Either this girl is photo hygenic(looks good on camera) or you got yourself a better camera. Or both!

[Ne123]

Hello Mongers,

I wanted to begin this post by thanking everyone who posts on here. I spent a couple of weeks reading through all the posts and acronyms to get a feel for what I should expect. I don't think I did too well on my first trip but I feel satisfied nonetheless and would welcome any tips from the more experienced people.

Arrived at the border at around 9pm (by myself, don't think that was too great of an idea) parked behind "Jack in the Box" and crossed over. Caught a cab to AB. It seemed emptier than I would've expected but I guess since it was a Monday it is normal. Spoke to a girl named Carla (about 5'9", very skinny, C cups, brown hair with highlights), she said she was from Guadalajara. Bought her a drink then went upstairs (if anyone is willing to teach me the finer points of negotiating I would be grateful). Started off nicely then after 20 minutes she said that was it and requested a $20 for tip to finish. I paid it since I wanted to go home afterwards and would've cost more to get another girl. Finished up and left. For the first experience I wouldn't rate it as bad but it felt rushed and overall not too great of an experience. Total damage for the trip $7. 50 + $60 + $12 + $1 + $20 = $100. 50

I would like to make another trip this week but feel uncomfortable going by myself, if anyone wouldn't mind me tagging along please let me know.

[Efjayel]

Hello Mongers,

I wanted to begin this post by thanking everyone who posts on here. I spent a couple of weeks reading through all the posts and acronyms to get a feel for what I should expect. I don't think I did too well on my first trip but I feel satisfied nonetheless and would welcome any tips from the more experienced people.

Arrived at the border at around 9pm (by myself, don't think that was too great of an idea) parked behind "Jack in the Box" and crossed over. Caught a cab to AB. It seemed emptier than I would've expected but I guess since it was a Monday it is normal. Spoke to a girl named Carla (about 5'9", very skinny, C cups, brown hair with highlights), she said she was from Guadalajara. Bought her a drink then went upstairs (if anyone is willing to teach me the finer points of negotiating I would be grateful). Started off nicely then after 20 minutes she said that was it and requested a $20 for tip to finish. I paid it since I wanted to go home afterwards and would've cost more to get another girl. Finished up and left. For the first experience I wouldn't rate it as bad but it felt rushed and overall not too great of an experience. Total damage for the trip $7. 50 + $60 + $12 + $1 + $20 = $100. 50

I would like to make another trip this week but feel uncomfortable going by myself, if anyone wouldn't mind me tagging along please let me know.


$20 bucks more to finish!? Lol, you where had. I suggest next time you try a bar girl.

[Phordphan]

$20 bucks more to finish!? Lol, you where had. I suggest next time you try a bar girl.

I think this *was* a bar girl. He said he went to AB.

PP

[Phordphan]

Hello Mongers,

I wanted to begin this post by thanking everyone who posts on here. I spent a couple of weeks reading through all the posts and acronyms to get a feel for what I should expect. I don't think I did too well on my first trip but I feel satisfied nonetheless and would welcome any tips from the more experienced people.

Arrived at the border at around 9pm (by myself, don't think that was too great of an idea) parked behind "Jack in the Box" and crossed over. Caught a cab to AB. It seemed emptier than I would've expected but I guess since it was a Monday it is normal. Spoke to a girl named Carla (about 5'9", very skinny, C cups, brown hair with highlights), she said she was from Guadalajara. Bought her a drink then went upstairs (if anyone is willing to teach me the finer points of negotiating I would be grateful). Started off nicely then after 20 minutes she said that was it and requested a $20 for tip to finish. I paid it since I wanted to go home afterwards and would've cost more to get another girl. Finished up and left. For the first experience I wouldn't rate it as bad but it felt rushed and overall not too great of an experience. Total damage for the trip $7. 50 + $60 + $12 + $1 + $20 = $100. 50

I would like to make another trip this week but feel uncomfortable going by myself, if anyone wouldn't mind me tagging along please let me know.

Yeah, you were had. This thread is full of stories of rip-offs from the AB chicas. They're not alone, but the whole clock-watching, hurry up and get back downstairs, clip-joint vibe seems to be a lot worse at AB. IMHO, not the best place for noobs to start.

First, you will be miles ahead if you learn some basic Spanish. It's amazing how much mileage you can get from being able to converse, even a bit, in the local lingo. TJ, Bangkok, Amsterdam, it's all the same.

Second, don't be afraid to buy a drink or two. This can tell you a lot. If she's not interested in sitting and drinking, blow her off. If she orders the thimbleful of orange soda, and gulps it, red flag. She should sit and chat and take at least 15 - 20 minutes per drink (my general rule of thumb). Talk to them about their family, kids, etc. They love that. Get a little touchy-feely. A little boob play, good natured groping, etc., will give you an indication of how much fun, or not, she'll be.

Third, always negotiate a bit. Never accept the first offer. This is Mexico, they bargain for everything. If they ask $60, don't be afraid to counter with $40 and come up to $50. Plead poverty, they certainly understand that. NEVER cough up more than $60. Ever. Period. If they demand more, smile and tell them adios. TJ has waaaay to many PLMs who will pay anything, with the excuse that the girls is just too hot. Bullshit. I've had hotties in AB just walk up to me and ask to go arriba for $50. Stick to your price point. And, if you want longer than 30 minutes, the rate goes DOWN. It does NOT go up or stay the same. If 30 minutes go for $60, an hour does NOT go for $120. $100 tops, and $80 is a lot close to reality.

Fourth, NEVER pay up front. Ever. If she demands money after the door closes, leave. Cut your losses. Tell the towel guy she changed the deal and he'll give you credit on the room. Lots of guys report having good service and still paying up front, but YOU are not those guys. You are a noob learning the ropes. You control the situation. It's your money.

Fifth, a session IS 30 MINUTES and includes pretty much whatever you want, not what she wants, within reason. Touching, light kissing (some won't DFK and it's more of a disease-prevention thing), DATY (very few will refuse, but it doesn't hurt to check downstairs), CBJ (some will do BBBJ but I respect their decision in this matter), CFS multiple positions until completion (IMO, you are an idiot to bareback a TJ bar girl). NEVER let them upsell. If they want to haggle over every little thing, they can work the alley. She can put on makeup, etc., on her own time, or when you're finished, whichever comes first.

Sixth, the gorgeous ones are often mediocre to bad arriba. They have a line of panting gringos following them around, why bother with good service?

Seventh, you might try a lower-key place, like CC, to get your feet wet. The chicas are a lot less shark-like.

Eighth, at night take a taxi in and out. I always have them drop me at the Hotel Nelson and I walk to the Zona. This avoids the stupid "CC is closed, I take you to Purple Rain" nonsense. If you must take a cab directly to the venue, don't take no for an answer. Catch a return cab southbound on Ninos Heroes, not eastbound on Coahuila. The EB ones go directly through the policia-infested area up Maduro.

Ninth, don't sweat going alone. Just leave the drugs and weapons at home. BYO party hats.

Tenth, have fun!!!

PP

[JPF]

Ne123,

You can't receive PMs. If you can send one and are interested in getting together with my friend and me when we go down on Thursday (we'll be in the zona from about 8:30pm for a couple of hours), send one to me. We go down once a week most every week.

[Iammrted0]

Hey Phordpha,

I wouldn't mind going to TJ w/ you. Hit me up.

[Phordphan]

Hey Phordpha,

I wouldn't mind going to TJ w/ you. Hit me up.

Might go next Saturday. Depends on business...

If that doesn't work, might do a quick run the following week.

PM me w/ an e-mail address and your general location.

PP

[Tjmee]

I need to go to tj on a weekend its been a while since I last been there on like Friday or Saturday LOL.

[Two Dollars]

Might go next Saturday. Depends on business...I'm heading down next weekend (haven't decided Friday, Saturday, or both). If anybody is up for a non-spanish speaking wingman, let me know. I'll spot you some beer.

Of course, I finally just mailed Jackson my subscription, so my pm isn't active quite yet.

[Precocious One]

Yeah, you were had. This thread is full of stories of rip-offs from the AB chicas. They're not alone, but the whole clock-watching, hurry up and get back downstairs, clip-joint vibe seems to be a lot worse at AB. IMHO, not the best place for noobs to start.

First, you will be miles ahead if you learn some basic Spanish. It's amazing how much mileage you can get from being able to converse, even a bit, in the local lingo. TJ, Bangkok, Amsterdam, it's all the same.

Second, don't be afraid to buy a drink or two. This can tell you a lot. If she's not interested in sitting and drinking, blow her off. If she orders the thimbleful of orange soda, and gulps it, red flag. She should sit and chat and take at least 15 - 20 minutes per drink (my general rule of thumb). Talk to them about their family, kids, etc. They love that. Get a little touchy-feely. A little boob play, good natured groping, etc., will give you an indication of how much fun, or not, she'll be.

Third, always negotiate a bit. Never accept the first offer. This is Mexico, they bargain for everything. If they ask $60, don't be afraid to counter with $40 and come up to $50. Plead poverty, they certainly understand that. NEVER cough up more than $60. Ever. Period. If they demand more, smile and tell them adios. TJ has waaaay to many PLMs who will pay anything, with the excuse that the girls is just too hot. Bullshit. I've had hotties in AB just walk up to me and ask to go arriba for $50. Stick to your price point. And, if you want longer than 30 minutes, the rate goes DOWN. It does NOT go up or stay the same. If 30 minutes go for $60, an hour does NOT go for $120. $100 tops, and $80 is a lot close to reality.

Fourth, NEVER pay up front. Ever. If she demands money after the door closes, leave. Cut your losses. Tell the towel guy she changed the deal and he'll give you credit on the room. Lots of guys report having good service and still paying up front, but YOU are not those guys. You are a noob learning the ropes. You control the situation. It's your money.

Fifth, a session IS 30 MINUTES and includes pretty much whatever you want, not what she wants, within reason. Touching, light kissing (some won't DFK and it's more of a disease-prevention thing), DATY (very few will refuse, but it doesn't hurt to check downstairs), CBJ (some will do BBBJ but I respect their decision in this matter), CFS multiple positions until completion (IMO, you are an idiot to bareback a TJ bar girl). NEVER let them upsell. If they want to haggle over every little thing, they can work the alley. She can put on makeup, etc., on her own time, or when you're finished, whichever comes first.

Sixth, the gorgeous ones are often mediocre to bad arriba. They have a line of panting gringos following them around, why bother with good service?

Seventh, you might try a lower-key place, like CC, to get your feet wet. The chicas are a lot less shark-like.

Eighth, at night take a taxi in and out. I always have them drop me at the Hotel Nelson and I walk to the Zona. This avoids the stupid "CC is closed, I take you to Purple Rain" nonsense. If you must take a cab directly to the venue, don't take no for an answer. Catch a return cab southbound on Ninos Heroes, not eastbound on Coahuila. The EB ones go directly through the policia-infested area up Maduro.

Ninth, don't sweat going alone. Just leave the drugs and weapons at home. BYO party hats.

Tenth, have fun!!!

PP


Great report. Every newbie Gringo should read this before heading to TJ or MX for that matter. Other than basic respect for the Mexican National and their rules and culture, the most important aspect is learning basic Spanish. Like most Gringos, I briefly studied the topic in college some 20 years ago. I am pretty much average when it comes to foreign languages and it took me no more than 30 hours of revisiting my college textbook before I was comfortable again. Just learn as many common words, verbs and their proper pronunciations as you can. Do not worry about the different verb tenses other than the past and present. I now speak passable Spanish and have had two non-pro GF's that spoke absolutely no English.

When it comes to mongering with Latinas, this is without a doubt the best investment you can make to increase your chances of GFE.

[Mutha Foo]

Guys, don't be lame. These girls have been ripped off so many times that sometimes they will demand to get paid first. If the girl doesn't demand the money first it's because she's a novice and doesn't know any better. I am fluent in Spanish and I have heard a million stories from these hard working girls about how they were ripped off. So don't be offended and don't worry, if the girl asks for the money first. These girls for the most part are just working girls that are doing it for the money and not because your good looking or you have a great personality but because they have a family to feed.

[Phordphan]

Guys, don't be lame. These girls have been ripped off so many times that sometimes they will demand to get paid first. If the girl doesn't demand the money first it's because she's a novice and doesn't know any better. I am fluent in Spanish and I have heard a million stories from these hard working girls about how they were ripped off. So don't be offended and don't worry, if the girl asks for the money first. These girls for the most part are just working girls that are doing it for the money and not because your good looking or you have a great personality but because they have a family to feed.

Sorry, I don't buy it. Been with lots of experienced chicas in the zona. Few of them demand payment up front. Sure, some have been ripped off but I think they're in the minority.

If you pay up front you have given away what little leverage you have in the transaction. When things go bad, and this thread is full of such stories, what are youi going to do? Punch out the girl and rifle her purse for the money? Not likely.

Giving in to demands of up-front money just convinces the girls that they can give worse service with no consequences. They figure that we'll put up with anything. You wouldn't pay up front for any other service, why with the chicas? FWIW, I really like the girls and would never dream of deliberately cheating one.

BTW, I'm wondering if anybody here HAS ripped off a girl. Or, if anybody knows what happens to somebody who does. I know in other countries the girls usually know some people who you really don't ever want to meet. I'm wondering what happens in TJ to some dumb f*ck who would try this.

PP

[Two Dollars]

BTW, I'm wondering if anybody here HAS ripped off a girl. Or, if anybody knows what happens to somebody who does. I know in other countries the girls usually know some people who you really don't ever want to meet. I'm wondering what happens in TJ to some dumb f*ck who would try this.I would be afraid that the bucket boy would come running after me if I tried to 'dine and dash.' That might be a worse fate than having the bar bouncers rough you up.

[Two Dollars]

Guys, don't be lame. These girls have been ripped off so many times that sometimes they will demand to get paid first. If the girl doesn't demand the money first it's because she's a novice and doesn't know any better. I am fluent in Spanish and I have heard a million stories from these hard working girls about how they were ripped off. So don't be offended and don't worry, if the girl asks for the money first. These girls for the most part are just working girls that are doing it for the money and not because your good looking or you have a great personality but because they have a family to feed.I speak basically zero spanish, and I've only been asked to pay up front once - at Purple Rain (which was my first trip). That was a good decision on Purple Rain's part, since they were ripping me off big time. Better to get my money before I wised up.

[Efjayel]

Prostitution is a city sanctioned business. Meaning they have the same rights as other businesses and are backed up by city laws. I asked one of the girls once, what would happen if a monger rips off a girl. It came up cause I was like three dollars short of her full fee. I was one of her regulars so she let it slide plus she even did me a favor and paid the tip to the clean up guy.

So what happens if you rip one of them off? Think about it, what happens if you rob a store, a restaurant or a person walking down the street? Exactly.

It's not worth getting butt rammed by some burly cellmate just to skip paying the chica whats owed to her.


As for not wanting to pay up front, that's up to you. Do what you want. Some of the regulars I go to, I never pay up front. Always at the end. But that's just because they know me and trust me. Other new girls I try out, I pay up front cause for them it's a requirement. I obviously let them know that I want to get my money's worth. And if they don't comply I just make it obvious that I no longer require their services by ignoring them the next time I come around. Trust me they get the hint. I know you must be thinking that I ended up wasting my money the first go with the chica. But that's fine. It's expected for this type of business. If you want a sure thing everytime, find yourself a regular chica and stick with her. But I don't really see the fun in choosing only one girl when there is so many available.

[Tjmee]

Looks like I'll be going down there tommorow with some friends. Might hit up las pulgas just to check it out haha I'll try to get some pics.

[Reinaldo]

You really think the girls at AB, CC, HK etc have been ripped off many times? If a guy were to try to get out without paying, the girl would start yelling at the top of her lungs and you would be prevented from leaving by all the jizz cleaners who are milling around. It would take less than 5 minutes for them to summon a policia auxiliar from the substation at the corner of Constitucion and the alley.





Guys, don't be lame. These girls have been ripped off so many times that sometimes they will demand to get paid first. If the girl doesn't demand the money first it's because she's a novice and doesn't know any better. I am fluent in Spanish and I have heard a million stories from these hard working girls about how they were ripped off. So don't be offended and don't worry, if the girl asks for the money first. These girls for the most part are just working girls that are doing it for the money and not because your good looking or you have a great personality but because they have a family to feed.

[Surfnk9]

You really think the girls at AB, CC, HK etc have been ripped off many times? If a guy were to try to get out without paying, the girl would start yelling at the top of her lungs and you would be prevented from leaving by all the jizz cleaners who are milling around. It would take less than 5 minutes for them to summon a policia auxiliar from the substation at the corner of Constitucion and the alley.
I have to agree with Reinaldo. There is no way you would get near the door if one of the gals calls for the guys. I have paid up front and gotten a everything from great to terrible. The best times are when a rapport has been developed and often money isn't even discussed. I just pay at the end. One techique is half and half with a promise of propina if she is good. If it does come to that, it's hit and miss with the quality.

[Efjayel]

I don't know, but I see it as you agreed to go with her but then blew her off completely which I think wasn't cool, regardless of her attitude toward you before sealing the deal. You said yes and so did she. She went to do something first. What if she hadn't gone to do something? You would have gone up with her? But you used that brief period as an excuse to leave her.

I guess I just view it differently than you.

So did she just walk away after seing you with Lisette? I've seen a few chicas have a jealous fit.

[Gglee]

AB had good ratio of chicas to mongers and so easy to get price down to $50.
Saw Anjelica, gorgeous face and natural Cs but she was always sitting and
never smiling and making no attempt to attract mongers. Because of her hot looks, had waiter bring her over. She sucked her ficha in a couple of swallows. Asked for $70 and would not budge from that price. When one has to bargain that hard, her demeanor of not smiling, knew action would be lousy so I passed. I wonder how she can attract anyone except a dummy like me. I can see why no one went up to her. Took someone from Mexico City arriba for agreed $50 but she demanded payment first and claimed everyone did but I know that is not true and again I passed. Some guy in hotel asked me what happened and then saw him talking to her. What did I do wrong in these two cases? BTW, Chicago Club had 2 mongers and about 5 sad chicas Tue night.

[Tjmee]

I've paid upfront before and havnt had much issues at all.

[Efjayel]

AB had good ratio of chicas to mongers and so easy to get price down to $50.
Saw Anjelica, gorgeous face and natural Cs but she was always sitting and
never smiling and making no attempt to attract mongers. Because of her hot looks, had waiter bring her over. She sucked her ficha in a couple of swallows. Asked for $70 and would not budge from that price. When one has to bargain that hard, her demeanor of not smiling, knew action would be lousy so I passed. I wonder how she can attract anyone except a dummy like me. I can see why no one went up to her. Took someone from Mexico City arriba for agreed $50 but she demanded payment first and claimed everyone did but I know that is not true and again I passed. Some guy in hotel asked me what happened and then saw him talking to her. What did I do wrong in these two cases? BTW, Chicago Club had 2 mongers and about 5 sad chicas Tue night.


First thing you did wrong was calling over a girl who looked like she wasn't in the mood at all. Avoid those types. But maybe she was just feeling a bit down since no one was coming up to her, and perhaps calling her over could have cheered her up. Sadly that didn't happen in your case.

As for the second girl, you demanded paying afterwards. I don't really understand why some mongers insist on this. I could understand that they think it gives them an upperhand on the situation, but this isn't always the case. I've had some chicas that demand up front and still turn out to be some real nice GFE's. View it from their point of view. Wouldn't you require getting paid first if your doing something for a complete stranger?

What exactly do you mean by 5 sad chicas? They looked like they where sad? or sad as in, "it was a sad display of chicas?"

[Jackie888]

I'm unsure about the pay at the end and haggling also. To me at least, it really makes it too business like and the girls resent you.

Before I start, I generally ask them what their days are so that I can return just for them so that I can make her my "special. " Then I insist paying immediately before we start so that I won't forget later.

My price is set at $60. I figure that the $10 you save isn't worth the headache of a grumpy ***** in bed.

[Phordphan]

I'm unsure about the pay at the end and haggling also. To me at least, it really makes it too business like and the girls resent you.

Before I start, I generally ask them what their days are so that I can return just for them so that I can make her my "special. " Then I insist paying immediately before we start so that I won't forget later.

My price is set at $60. I figure that the $10 you save isn't worth the headache of a grumpy ***** in bed.

It *is* a business. They don't resent you for some light bargaining. If they're insulted, they won't go up.

This is Mexico, not the USA. :)

[Ninguno Especial]

It *is* a business. They don't resent you for some light bargaining. If they're insulted, they won't go up.

This is Mexico, not the USA. :)

Agreed and thank God we have Mexico in our back yard. True, it is in their blood to bargain. I've had chicas agree to going up for $40 only if I buy them 2 drinks. With no drinks it was $50 or $60. They are business women albeit not all are business 'savvy'. They factor everything into the deal as should we. You want to pop with putas on top of their game, best get on top of yours.

[USSmaximus]

Had a great experience with Tania last week. She was super, she worked hard and we were both sweating by the end of the session. Definetely a girl worth repeating with. I'll give full report next week sometime. Going in again Friday night, 8/8. If any of you wants a wing man, shoot me a PM.

Later, Max

[Efjayel]

I've had chicas agree to going up for $40 only if I buy them 2 drinks. With no drinks it was $50 or $60.


That's brilliant! I didn't even think of that. I should tell them that if I buy them a drink/another drink, they should lower the price by $10 bucks. Lady drinks are about what, 7 bucks?

This reminds of a bar pick-up line joke I once heard. When you see a girl tell her, "Can I buy you a drink or would you preffer the money?" Well it was something like that. :D

[Phordphan]

This reminds of a bar pick-up line joke I once heard. When you see a girl tell her, "Can I buy you a drink or would you preffer the money?" Well it was something like that. :D

I've done that before. The last time was when I bumped into a favorita, but was broke. She is a really sweet chica. I stopped to chat a bit. After a while she asked for a drink, but I only had $5 for the cab and my $20 emergency stash. So, I told her as much and asked her if the wanted the drink or the money. She just looked down and softly said "dinero." :)

[Member #4450]

This is like you pay me two $20 or if you prefer pay me $40??????
Where's my frigging calculator??

[Locoaztec14]

Just curious but are there any hot chicks early friday...say around 10ish or 11ish thinking of doing a quickie before i leave :( im in heaven when im in their. Beatiful chicks. banged 2 hot chicks today from Adelitas and had a GREAT Time.

[Samurai0907]

I was in there, HK and CC from about 630p until 1100p and there were a lot of hot chicas in all. Moreso than any other night, except Sat, which I don't know, as I never go on Sat.

In HK, there were at least 5-6 hotties, and I NEVER like any in HK usually, too many gorditas for me.

[Efjayel]

Never been there on a Friday morning. Have been there Saturday and Sunday mornings. And there's been plenty to pick from. Many of the girls tell me they usually work almost every day so my guess is yes. Especially at AB.

[Sgt Perv]

Just curious but are there any hot chicks early friday...say around 10ish or 11ish thinking of doing a quickie before i leave :( im in heaven when im in their. Beatiful chicks. banged 2 hot chicks today from Adelitas and had a GREAT Time.Dude your are close go look!! No matter who says what go look!

[Member #4450]

Is AB too hot right now?
I mean the bar temperature inside, I want to go by I'm waiting for cooler days, can someone please give me an update?
They always said they have A/C but it never runs, same thing with the motel next door, a freaking sauna.
Forecast for TJ 85 and up so I figure AB must be around 95+ 110% humidity.

[Samurai0907]

I just got back. AB is hot for me, as I'm ALWAYS hot, but it's probably in te 70's at night. HK and Trop have AC ducts that blow COLD air if you stand by them. CC is also ok. The rooms in Coahuila are ok not steaming hot, some have AC.

[Efjayel]

From personal experience,

Unless you're running before you get to AB the A/C in the bar should be sufficient to keep you cool as long as you only sit and sip a cold beer. It's not supermarket frozen aisle cool, but cool enough to be comfortable. As for the rooms, they also have air conditioning. It was about as good as the bar. Which in my opinion wasn't sufficient to keep cool while busting a move. Cause while doing the deed, both the chica and myself found each other getting kind of sweaty. Although I found sweaty sex kind of hot. Just be sure to use body spray before you meet the girl and to shower afterwards.

[JPF]

In AB as the number of people increase, so does the heat. Last night it was okay for me at 9pm but not at 10:30 as it filled up.

The AC in the hotel varies widely from room to room. In some you can barely feel it and it is too warm. In some it blows so strongly that chica closed the vent as it was hitting us on the bed.

Note, that SD and TJ have many microclimates and while it may be 85 in some places it will be a lot cooler in others (and hotter further inland). It doesn't usually get that hot in la zona.

[B Dulles]

Sorry, I don't buy it. Been with lots of experienced chicas in the zona. Few of them demand payment up front. Sure, some have been ripped off but I think they're in the minority.

If you pay up front you have given away what little leverage you have in the transaction. When things go bad, and this thread is full of such stories, what are youi going to do? Punch out the girl and rifle her purse for the money? Not likely.

PPSome demand to be paid upfront, others do not. I do not know about losing leverage with them. Typically, we get down to business immediately after the money transaction takes place. It would be hard to back out of the deal (even if I had not paid) once my cock was in her mouth.

I have no problem paying up front and have had great service. I tell them that I will give them a propina (tip) for good service and generally give $20 if it was good. After all, they are providing a service and etiquette demands you tip them properly (yes I am half joking here).

The whole setup at the zona is a well oiled machine. Everyone is in on the action. Leaving without paying or getting into a monetary dispute would be a very bad scene for the monger. Though I have never seen it happen, it has at some point I am sure and it was dealt with. Once you close the door with a girl, you better be prepared to pay up.

[Member #4450]

Are they running the A/C?
I have never got that luxury while in AB, I always go out to get some fresh air, maybe they run the A/C at night because I always feel hot in the day, and the same for hotel coahuila.
Please don't tell me is my imagination, I live in the San Fernando Valley I know what hot is LOL!

Yes, very true when there's a lot of people inside it gets really hot and very humid i guess driving ol the way from LA to TJ in a car with a nice cold A/C can make you more sensitive to the hot TJ weather?
Trust me on this one they don't run the A/C because of us the customers they just don't give a shit about us is because the girls ask for it.
Anyway, thanks guys for the update :)

[Phordphan]

Some demand to be paid upfront, others do not. I do not know about losing leverage with them. Typically, we get down to business immediately after the money transaction takes place. It would be hard to back out of the deal (even if I had not paid) once my cock was in her mouth.

I have no problem paying up front and have had great service. I tell them that I will give them a propina (tip) for good service and generally give $20 if it was good. After all, they are providing a service and etiquette demands you tip them properly (yes I am half joking here).

The whole setup at the zona is a well oiled machine. Everyone is in on the action. Leaving without paying or getting into a monetary dispute would be a very bad scene for the monger. Though I have never seen it happen, it has at some point I am sure and it was dealt with. Once you close the door with a girl, you better be prepared to pay up.

Sorry, a $20 tip is waaay out of line. This is Mexico, not LA. Normal business transactions don't require any tip, or just small ones. Locals tip $1 or $2 after large meals at restaurants. $5 tips for great service arriba are fine, but not expected, $10 borders on the exorbitant. Paying up front, paying top dollar and paying exorbitant tips are just hallmarks of gringos ignorant of the local culture. This goes for Mexico, Central America, SEA, etc., etc.

[K I R A]

Been a while since I've last been to AB, I believe maybe a year ago. Read a couple reports here and I get the feeling things may not be as good as HK. How's that working out? HK taking over as the top contender or is AB still holding out? I'm looking to hit it up Friday for a "happy" birthday. One other question though, Daytime vs Nighttime? Much of a difference?

Cheers

[Egnahcc]

Been a while since I've last been to AB, I believe maybe a year ago. Read a couple reports here and I get the feeling things may not be as good as HK. How's that working out? HK taking over as the top contender or is AB still holding out? I'm looking to hit it up Friday for a "happy" birthday. One other question though, Daytime vs Nighttime? Much of a difference?

CheersHK the best? No way. AB all the way. HK sucks. It looks cool inside, but that place is wack. Day time vs. night time = not much of a difference.

[Queer Juan]

Been a while since I've last been to AB, I believe maybe a year ago. Read a couple reports here and I get the feeling things may not be as good as HK. How's that working out? HK taking over as the top contender or is AB still holding out? I'm looking to hit it up Friday for a "happy" birthday. One other question though, Daytime vs Nighttime? Much of a difference?

Cheers

HK is popular right now because of the remodel which expanded it greatly and it's a cheap thrill because you can grope the chica's for a buck. It's hit and miss as to quality on any given day. I like hanging out there, if you find someone you can make out and do the private dances which can be off the charts. 20 bucks for two songs.

I'd hit AB about 5 p.m. or so and catch both shifts, day leaving and night coming around 8 p.m.

The difference isn't so much between clubs but who you know, that's what determines great sessions. Familarity is everything down here.

[Efjayel]

Been a while since I've last been to AB, I believe maybe a year ago. Read a couple reports here and I get the feeling things may not be as good as HK. How's that working out? HK taking over as the top contender or is AB still holding out? I'm looking to hit it up Friday for a "happy" birthday. One other question though, Daytime vs Nighttime? Much of a difference?

Cheers


HK has changed which has it growing in popularity. I believe they've also been doing more shows with variety. I have yet to witness it myself though so I can't comment if its better. But even though, I preffer the calmer bar scene of AB to the rowdy strip club scene of HK. As for the women, AB still has most of the perfect 10's.

There is a difference from night time and day time. You'll find more girls and hotter ones during the night. But this doesnt mean the day shift doesn't have its share of hotties. There's just less of them. Of course it comes down to personal prefference.

So really, there is not much difference in the zona since last year. Economy has taken a downturn but that's happening everywhere. Things are pretty much the same at the Zona.

And i think the shifts at AB change at 9pm. With the hottest girls starting their shifts around 11pm or so.

The private dances at HK are fun if you're into a quick thrill. But personally I think 20 bucks is pretty expensive for the 5 to 7 minutes you get.

[K I R A]

Many thanks on the feedback. Its pretty much what i kinda figured, i might have to check out HK even if its just to see how its changed but sounds to me like AB is still the place to do the deed. Should be checking it out later today, ill be the guy enjoying a good cig with hard liqour, no better way and place to celebrate my bday. :) Hope a good report will be coming tommorrow, if your there, raise a glass with me! haha.

[Efjayel]

I preffer people didn't smoke in the bars but I doubt that's going to stop. One time a guy complained and told the waiters to get people to stop. Well let's just say he was ridiculed by the Dj and everyone in the bar laughed at him.

[Thumperr]

I get down to TJ a few times a year from the Northeast.

Due in 8PM Sunday night. Can't decide if I should head right down from SD or wait until Monday afternoon,which has it's own unusual rhythm.

Anyway, what's the latest lay of the land guys? Haven't been down since June, way too long.

ANd wha's new with the taxi situation. Last time down it didn't seem Taxi Libre was the bargain it used to be. I thought the guy was goingtoi freak when I paid him in Mexican $ instead of US. Used the standard 10 for 1 conversion.

[Green_Thumb]

Ok,

I haven't been to Tijuana since the 4th of July and just got on the guide last night to catch up since I'm coming out for Halloween. What exactly is going on with AB pricing? I have read several threads where some of the girls are asking for $100 and some not budging off $70. Don't they know our economy is the one that feeds them and right now it sucks!

I've been going pretty regularly for the last 3-4 years and pricing was easily negotiated for $40-$50 for most girls, while the stunners went for $60. NO MORE. Has something changed or is it a case of newbies gettin had?

Please advise.

Thanks,

GT

[Phordphan]

Ok,

I haven't been to Tijuana since the 4th of July and just got on the guide last night to catch up since I'm coming out for Halloween. What exactly is going on with AB pricing? I have read several threads where some of the girls are asking for $100 and some not budging off $70. Don't they know our economy is the one that feeds them and right now it sucks!

I've been going pretty regularly for the last 3-4 years and pricing was easily negotiated for $40-$50 for most girls, while the stunners went for $60. NO MORE. Has something changed or is it a case of newbies gettin had?

Please advise.

Thanks,

GT

Newbies gettin' had.

[So Slow]

Tonight Adelitas got raided. Checked everyone for an ID then took oictures of many people. Guys out side said it was to check that girls were of age. It did get a bit wierd. Cop knocking and hotel door with handle of his gun.

No harm no foul. Just an FYI.

[Amerioca]

I get down to TJ a few times a year from the Northeast.

Due in 8PM Sunday night. Can't decide if I should head right down from SD or wait until Monday afternoon,which has it's own unusual rhythm.

Anyway, what's the latest lay of the land guys? Haven't been down since June, way too long.

ANd wha's new with the taxi situation. Last time down it didn't seem Taxi Libre was the bargain it used to be. I thought the guy was goingtoi freak when I paid him in Mexican $ instead of US. Used the standard 10 for 1 conversion.

I will be there Sunday. The line up should be good.

How much did the taxi driver ask for? I alway pay $5 from the taxi stand to AB.

[Rewsna]

Yeah, no need to worry about cops in the clubs, or in the street, unless you're carrying drugs. Then you have to bribe them. They're really making sure the girls got their proper IDs.


Tonight Adelitas got raided. Checked everyone for an ID then took oictures of many people. Guys out side said it was to check that girls were of age. It did get a bit wierd. Cop knocking and hotel door with handle of his gun.

No harm no foul. Just an FYI.

[B Dulles]

Went down tonight with a coworker. We have done this many times.

Got to the border at 8:30pm. Parked in the lot across from the Jack in the Box. This is the best lot, the attendant is nearby and can watch my car. We ask how things are south of the border and he says about a "3" on a scale from 1-10.

So we cross over and are a little nervous with all the recent activity in Tijuana and what the parking guy said. We know that the shootings that happen affects mostly those in the drug trade. It was 3 days since the 18 people were murdered.

So we get in a yellow cab and say my favorite line, "Adelita Bar por favor. " The guy starts driving, then tells us that Adelitas may be closed. He tells of the recent shootings. I have a hard time understanding most of what he said. He even goes so far as to show us a newspaper with the killings on the front.

So, we both get a little freaked out. He says there are police everywhere and people are getting searched and shaken down. Then I start to smell a rat. I ask him what we should do, he says that Luxor is still OK and they have "everything. " I know the taxi guys get kickbacks for going here. I insist we go to Adelitas. We arrive and it is open and looks like it always does.

So we go inside. There are mucho girls working, outnumbering the mongers almost easily. It is still early though. We settle into the back corner. My buddy finds a girl right away as usual. He picks up Maria. She has a stunning body and fake eyelashes I do not like. My buddy is happy and ready to go arriba.

Anyway, when he gets her upstairs, he realizes this is the same girl he was with last time, about 9 months ago. He was already checking in to the room so it was too late to back out. He said it was good, but the fact he had been there before along with the panic put into us by the taxi driver kind of soured the experiance.

I had to hurry and find a girl. I see a couple familiar faces. I meet up with Marissa. I like her pierced lip and nose. She has a smoking bod. She is 22 and from Mexico City. She has a good attitude. I buy her a ficha drink. I try to get her to agree to anal, she says no. I know I could shop around, but I will make do. She says she will give me a BBBJ but I decline in the interest of safety/paranoia.

We go arriba. We take a shower together. She did not understand, that I wanted to do the soaping up for her, that is half the fun. So we get out of the shower. We only got one towel and share. We get a fair amount of water on the floor.

So we got down to business. She covers me up and starts with a BJ. She did a good job and actually spent some time here. We then get down to fucking. We do many positions and I finish with her on top of me.

I ask if I can take a picture with my cell camera, she declines. No big deal, wanted to bring back a picture for a friend that wimped out last minute. I go to put on my socks and find that one of them was in a pool of water on the floor. Nothing I can do about that now, so I get dressed.

I go downstairs and meet up with my co-worker. I found the bathroom remodel is complete. They really did a nice job on the bathrooms, nice especially for Tijuana. I also see there are more mongers coming in and things are picking up.

We taxi to the sentri. Traffic is backed up so we get dropped off a little further than normal. We hightail it to the border. Saw the lone policeman standing in the shadows by the bridge. He paid us no attention as usual.

About a 20 minute wait to cross. My co-worker had a simialr issue with his shoelaces getting wet and he was disgusted. He also took a shower, then realized that all their water is contaminated. So now we are both grossed out and eager to get back to our hotel and decontaminate ourselves. Yeah, I know we were being a little weird with it all, but the whole trip this time had left us kind of frazzled.

My ratings for this trip:
Girl (looks): 8
Girl (attitude): 9
Girl (service): 7
Overall trip experiance: 5 (thanks to the taxi driver)

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[Efjayel]

How do you know all their water is contaminated? This reeks of south of the border paranoia. Or is there some new contamination issue I don't know about?

[Smut Villain]

How do you know all their water is contaminated? This reeks of south of the border paranoia. Or is there some new contamination issue I don't know about?
Well, he's right and wrong at the same time. The water's not so contaminated that you can't take a shower or wash dishes in it - that part really is south-of-the-border paranoia.

On the other hand, having lived south of Tijuana for 5 years myself I can tell you this from personal experience: when you look around your local barrio and notice that not even the locals are drinking their tapwater, that's a hint-and-a-half for your ass right there :) . Most (almost all) of my former neighbors got their potable water from those big dispensers like you see in the office; they'd take the empties back to some location to redeem them for some return fee (like turning in glass soda bottles) and grab a new jug for their home dispensers.

I may have been mistaken about the general safety of Tijuana's water supply but, as I already said, when the locals won't even drink their own tap water, it does make you stop and think...

[Surfnk9]

How do you know all their water is contaminated? This reeks of south of the border paranoia. Or is there some new contamination issue I don't know about?

B Dulles might have legitimate concerns about the water on the floor. I would clean the rooms with the same enthusiasm as those guys do, which is a superficial wipe down with water that hasn’t been changed in a week; and then get out as soon as possible. It’s not just the water on the floor that concerns me; it’s also the precious bodily fluids that missed their mark, either by sloppy condom technique or overshooting an open mouth.

[Efjayel]

when you look around your local barrio and notice that not even the locals are drinking their tapwater, that's a hint-and-a-half for your ass right there :) . Most (almost all) of my former neighbors got their potable water from those big dispensers like you see in the office; they'd take the empties back to some location to redeem them for some return fee (like turning in glass soda bottles) and grab a new jug for their home dispensers.


But thats true practically everywhere now a days. Not that water is contaminated. Well actually there was a contamination scare last week here close to my city that they even closed all the surrounding restaurants for a few days, but that's beside the point. Rarely anyone drinks tap water. People have come accustomed to and preffer the better taste of filtrated water. Even I do. I practically buy crates of bottled water. But on some occasions I'll fill up a cup with tap and drink that instead.

[Smut Villain]

But thats true practically everywhere now a days. Not that water is contaminated. Well actually there was a contamination scare last week here close to my city that they even closed all the surrounding restaurants for a few days, but that's beside the point. Rarely anyone drinks tap water. People have come accustomed to and preffer the better taste of filtrated water. Even I do. I practically buy crates of bottled water. But on some occasions I'll fill up a cup with tap and drink that instead.
That's interesting to know. I'd always assumed that reason I always saw everyone using bottled water was that TJ's water plants were straining under the weight of the population. Never knew the water was okay for drinking (but I already knew it was okay for everything else, including bathing). Now that I think about it, I guess it wouldn't make any sense for Tijuana to not have (at least) adequate processing facilities; after all, I'm sure the ice in all those Cuba Libres I used to guzzle down at AB didn't come from bottled water, and I never became sick from it.

Again, I will agree with you 100% on the point that there is an awful lot of "south-of-the-border" paranoia about TJ.

[The Power]

Well I have been reading the reports here for a while and thought I would give it a try. My friend told me about Adelitas and what happens there and me being the shy one I declined sever al times to go with my friend. Well I finally got the motivation and access to my ID and needed funds. My friend and I arrived at the border at about 3:45AM and got a taxi to Adelitas. At first I was like wow... It's like a strip club.

We roam around for a while looking at the girls but I did not initally find one. I saw some girls that were kinda in the low 4's and some in the high 10's. Well I found one girl about a few minutes and I took here up to the hotel room. I paid hte $12 for the room and $60 to the girl. We get it on but I was expecting more. It took me a while to get it up but I finnaly did and we did multiple positions.

It would have been better if she spoke more english. She did but not much.

Well after the party was over we got cleaned up and went back dow to the bar.

My first empression is it was GREAT. But my friend said we shoudl go a differnet day of the week.

[B Dulles]

I may have been mistaken about the general safety of Tijuana's water supply but, as I already said, when the locals won't even drink their own tap water, it does make you stop and think...South of the border paranoia is right. I have eaten on the carts and will continue to. I have showered in the hotel before, no big deal. It was something about the cab driver rattling our cages that got us in the mindset. The whole night felt like a bad experience, maybe we wanted to shower so bad to get the bad memories off our bodies, who knows. So I agree, it was paranoia.

The problems in TJ have been amplified in the news, even here in L. A. We hear about them. It is a little nerve racking crossing the border, seeing federales in masks toting assault rifles. We have done this enough times before not to worry too much, but you cannot help a little paranoia creeping in now and then. We still feel safe, largely because of the knowledge gained here in the forums.

[B Dulles]

Well I have been reading the reports here for a while and thought I would give it a try. My friend told me about Adelitas and what happens there and me being the shy one I declined sever al times to go with my friend. Well I finally got the motivation and access to my ID and needed funds. My friend and I arrived at the border at about 3:45AM and got a taxi to Adelitas. At first I was like wow... It's like a strip club.Was it 3:45AM or PM you went? Either time may be slow I would think. Anyway, congrats on popping your TJ cherry.

Next time you go, try to take your time. Look around and flirt with a girl or two. If you get one sitting down with you, do not feel bad about kicking her loose and talking to someone else. These girls are *****s and they know the game. Find the right girl and your experience will be better. Also, I find it better to get with a girl with the right attitude. I went for the hottest one once and her attitude was poor and so was the session.

Enjoy your next trip!

[Fire Fox]

How are people bargaining with the current rate these days?

Its at 13 to 1 right now. Any one getting the girls for 50? Still works out in their favor.

Paying 60 gives them almost 800 pesos. Incredible.

[Efjayel]

About a year ago, the exchange rate was about 11 to 1. Meaning that 660 pesos equaled 60 bucks, the going chica rate.

So if you pay $60 bucks now at the current 13 rate that comes to almost 800 pesos, it's like your paying them $72 bucks! The rate is going up!

Maybe it'd be better to exchange the money and pay in pesos;

So basically, a year ago 660 pesos equaled $60 bucks.
Now 660 pesos equals $50 bucks. Score!

[Sgt Perv]

This is a good automatically updated currency converter.

http://www.ac-markets.com/forex-resources/currency-converter.aspx

[Sgt Perv]

About a year ago, the exchange rate was about 11 to 1. Meaning that 660 pesos equaled 60 bucks, the going chica rate.

So if you pay $60 bucks now at the current 13 rate that comes to almost 800 pesos, it's like your paying them $72 bucks! The rate is going up!

Maybe it'd be better to exchange the money and pay in pesos;

So basically, a year ago 660 pesos equaled $60 bucks.

Now 660 pesos equals $50 bucks. Score!They accept pesos in Mexico;0

[Locoaztec14]

Just Curious, but does adelita's take credit cards as a payment for when your "arriva"?

Has anybody tried it?

If so has their been any credit card problems?

[Phordphan]

Just Curious, but does adelita's take credit cards as a payment for when your "arriva"?

Has anybody tried it?

If so has their been any credit card problems?

Only if your girl carries a credit card swiper in her purse!

[Efjayel]

lol, fjord.

It's cash only buddy.

I don't know if the bar takes Credit card for the drinks but even if they did I wouldn't trust a hooker bar with my credit card information.

[Fire Fox]

I don't know if the bar takes Credit card for the drinks but even if they did I wouldn't trust a hooker bar with my credit card information.On two occasions me and a close friend have run into the problem of a Mexican joint overcharging us, and in one instance (Peanuts and Beer *cough*), stolen the card and charged it up full blast.

Each time the bank reversed the charges and everything was fine. I think its worth the gamble. As long as you've been a long standing member and pay most of your bill on time, you're all set. Not to mention its Mexico so you're not the first person this has happened too. They know.

There is always identity theft on a broader scale though.

[Depeche Mode]

Hmmm...Dude thinking about it...I SWEAR I remember seeing a credit card machine at Purple Rain. It was so long ago I cant really remember if Im making this up or if it was really there.

[Sgt Perv]

On two occasions me and a close friend have run into the problem of a Mexican joint overcharging us, and in one instance (Peanuts and Beer *cough*), stolen the card and charged it up full blast.

Each time the bank reversed the charges and everything was fine. I think its worth the gamble. As long as you've been a long standing member and pay most of your bill on time, you're all set. Not to mention its Mexico so you're not the first person this has happened too. They know.

There is always identity theft on a broader scale though.Using a Credit Card you are asking for trouble. Just get a cash advance and hide your CC.

[Peendogg]

Sorry my first post has to be a question but I am planning a day trip to TJ friday and am just curious if anyone knows the actual hours of the Adelita bar. I've heard 6pm to 6am. And I got this off of another website: "The bar opens during the day and stays open all night and into the early morning". Question is what time exactly during the day. Thanks. I look forward to posting a report when I return.

[Horntoad]

sorry my first post has to be a question but i am planning a day trip to tj friday and am just curious if anyone knows the actual hours of the adelita bar. i've heard 6pm to 6am. and i got this off of another website: "the bar opens during the day and stays open all night and into the early morning". question is what time exactly during the day. thanks. i look forward to posting a report when i return.

i've been there at 11am in the morning just because i was putting in a bet at caliente and there are some girls but not that much of a selection. of course, horny as i was, i found something to poke. :)

[Phordphan]

sorry my first post has to be a question but i am planning a day trip to tj friday and am just curious if anyone knows the actual hours of the adelita bar. i've heard 6pm to 6am. and i got this off of another website: "the bar opens during the day and stays open all night and into the early morning". question is what time exactly during the day. thanks. i look forward to posting a report when i return.

a lot of the girls work a 6pm to 6am shift. but it's open a lot earlier. probably around 9am or 10am, but i've never been there that early. plenty of selection by noon.

[Efjayel]

I was there once at around 10am on a Saturday. It was empty and like only four or five girls. I was the only guy there. This was a holiday though. I've been there at around 12 pm noon on a saturday, non holiday and found it crawling with chicas and customers. So yeah, it opens up early.

[Sgt Perv]

I have always considered early morning as bargain hunting.

The chicas who are out need pesos and there is not a lot of customers.

You can get a better price without a rush.

Great advantage to staying the night in TJ.

[Surfnk9]

I was having breakfast in the restaurant nextdoor at about 8:30 one morning after staying overnight at Cascadas. The sausage and eggs consisted of scrabbled eggs with sliced hotdogs, and the coffee was Sanka dispensed from a syrup bottle. It was classic. Anyways all the girls showing up for their early shift at AB were coming in for a cup of cofffee. It was good to get a good look at them in the light. Even though my friend and I were eating, they knew why we were hanging out in TJ. They definitely flirtred with us, maybe they wanted a few quick bucks early in the morning.

They were cleaning AB and we were told they opened at 9am.

[Efjayel]

The sausage and eggs consisted of scrabbled eggs with sliced hotdogsLol, that reminds me of breakfast at home when I was a kid.

[Hans25]

Hey, what happend to little claudia 1 ( petite little blonde)?

I haven't seen her in a while, anybody seen her?

[German God]

Head to San Diego next week for work and was wondering how safe it is to cross the border for some fun. Been down there several times mostly to visit AB but I havent been in about a year. Anything I need to worry about? I hear all kinds of horror stories about kiddnapping and murders but I cant believe that this occurring in the tourist area. Also do I need to bring a passport now or can I still get across with my drivers license?

Thx for info.

[Boglee]

Any of you been with this petite morena. She usually hangs by the area the mini bar behind the stage. This is the opposite end of the main bar and the entrance. She usually is dressed as a school girl and has a pierced left eyebrow and nose. I've had a few drinks and conversations with her before but never went arriba.

[Day Sleeper]

Monday, I went to Adelitas after roaming the alley and HK for a while.

It was already late (early morning) and I like to spend some time seating there and looking at the girls.

It is a easy way to get a feeling on who may be good to go up with.

This tall and slender chica came to my table to offer her services. She had a nice body with small but perky breasts with a dark mole right between them and a somewhat small and masculine face.

Her english was well above average and had good conversation.

We went up after a slow drink and after she showed me her barely visible and very high quality job C-section scar right above her pussy (this tells me that it may have been done in the States). She said that it kept her pussy very tight (and boys, was she right).

We had a very nice unrushed session ($.6 / 1.2hr) with shower, DATY, multi position and covered everything.

Finished with uncovered HJ while I was playing her tight pussy with my fingers...
Her name was quite long and sounded Russian.

A good time I may repeat.

[DJ FourMoney]

But thats true practically everywhere now a days. Not that water is contaminated. Well actually there was a contamination scare last week here close to my city that they even closed all the surrounding restaurants for a few days, but that's beside the point. Rarely anyone drinks tap water. People have come accustomed to and preffer the better taste of filtrated water. Even I do. I practically buy crates of bottled water. But on some occasions I'll fill up a cup with tap and drink that instead.

Here's a small off-topic suggestion -

Get a filter for your tap DUDE, forget that "bottled" water nonsense, your just enriching Coke-A-Cola for one thing and don't think they own just ONE brand you see, same with Pepsi...

There is NOTHING wrong with America's water supply (maybe the LACK of it...). Conspiracy theory aside, its chlorinated and you might taste that, when you talk about taste of bottled water. But bottled water is a placebo at best and a money waster as worst.

I don't drink enough water and my kidneys are more than likely paying the price, though I do try and "flush" my insides out every once in awhile with a couple of glasses of good ol'e tap water backed up by a Brita filter....

Take heed and I just saved you a TON of money...

Back to your regularly scheduled programing

[Gaucho 74]

Hey, what happend to little claudia 1 ( petite little blonde)?

I haven't seen her in a while, anybody seen her?Yea, I actually saw her a couple/few weeks ago after not seeing her for months. She said she had just returned that day after being at home for a long visit. She had removed her hair extensions so she looks a little different. More normal and not quite as hot as before. Her hair is kind of short and not really healthy looking. She is; however, as sweet as ever. Had a great time. Like hooking up with a old girlfriend or something.

[Efjayel]

Here's a small off-topic suggestion -

Get a filter for your tap DUDE, forget that "bottled" water nonsense, your just enriching Coke-A-Cola for one thing and don't think they own just ONE brand you see, same with Pepsi...


Take heed and I just saved you a TON of money...




I buy it mainly because I take a bottle or two in my lunch pack for work.

[Starphucker]

Got a girl named "America" Saturday at AB and what a waste of $ that was. She is about 5'4" with a Perfect body, C-implants and no scars. Bad service, very rushed, no DATY, no BBBJ, no fingers inside or around kitty. AB girls are hot but give bad service! I will stick to HK and CC now.

[Dermdoc58]

More photos.

[DJ FourMoney]

I buy it mainly because I take a bottle or two in my lunch pack for work.

Your excused...lol

[RoadGlide]

Dermdoc; Nice photos of Claudia. I noticed that these photos were taken in 2005. Do you have any recent photos of the talent in the bars?

RG.

[Polvo]

More photos.Dermdoc:
I am still laughing at picture 165. What the hell is the story behind the gloved hand? Was she in the middle of washing the dishes??

Suerte!

Polvo

[Rob Hay]

They're new, young and hot!! They look like twins. dress similiar, same haircuts, braces but I prefer the older (20) one... They're brand new and according to them they'll be there for 4 months. Younger sister clearly had a fondness for nose candy. But then again shes from Sinaloa so whats the surprise there. They look like Mexican Paris Hiltons. Very pretty and very stylish

Was there Friday and Saturday and they were clearly the hottest girls in the bar and the crowd favorite. Little Claudia was looking a bit aged under eyes but is always a top money maker. Still in pretty good shape for someone 27. But

[Efjayel]

Nose candy?

[Cobra Comander]

Nose candy?Cocaine

CC

[Phordphan]

Nose candy?Coke. Dude, you gotta get out more! :)

[Sgt Perv]

Nose candy?Cocaine because they snort it.

[Efjayel]

I avoid drugs and anyone who likes being around them. So I'm not up to date on the lingo. I'm sorry but I think anyone who does drugs are complete idiots.

[Phordphan]

I avoid drugs and anyone who likes being around them. So I'm not up to date on the lingo. I'm sorry but I think anyone who does drugs are complete idiots.I agree, and have never done them. However, it's been called nose candy since the '70s.

You get a pass if you were born after 1985. :)

[Dohhh]

They're new, young and hot! They look like twins. Dress similiar, same haircuts, braces but I prefer the older (20) one. They're brand new and according to them they'll be there for 4 months. Younger sister clearly had a fondness for nose candy. But then again shes from Sinaloa so whats the surprise there. They look like Mexican Paris Hiltons. Very pretty and very stylish

Was there Friday and Saturday and they were clearly the hottest girls in the bar and the crowd favorite. Little Claudia was looking a bit aged under eyes but is always a top money maker. Still in pretty good shape for someone 27. ButAny of you gents have any pics of such said lovelies.

Thanks

[Dermdoc58]

The two sisters originated at AB-----like 6 months ago---------Then when they lost any remaining dignity they went to work at HK. After the remodel of course. Camilia-- which you will see in the photos (both as a blonde and a brunette) wasnt fucking enough at HK-- ie her snapper (pussy) wasnt pulling in the dough ($$$$) at HK--- Most dorks there put a buck or two in the G- string and then move on. So she went back to AB to make more money-- FIrst time I fucked her like 6 months ago at AB-- she was the most receptive ***** around-- took all the lumber like a champ==== BUT NO BLOW JOBS-- Now note that she has braces-- so I wasnt too keen on having a Black and Decker Pecker Wrecker working on my Love Tool.

If you want her phone number--- here it is--- but I think it was disconnected or lost or she was too stupid and flakey to pay the bill. I also have her EMAIL-- though she is very very bad about responding.

Once she came to my hotel-- directly from the Tijuana Airport--- so she said-- but she had no Luggage? (that session cost me $100 bucks for servicio al domicilio) REmember they are *****s-- and they have no dignity--- thats why we love them!

Also since I am posting pics-- I need to throttle that little momzer with 587 posts--- Dorks type-- Real men/ Mongers post photos for their buddies. To appreciate-- Maybe you should get a job at the Braille Institute- they don't require photos. Just a thought.

[Country John]

Nice pics Dermdoc, gotta love them nips.

Country John

[Efjayel]

Also since I am posting pics-- I need to throttle that little momzer with 587 posts--- Dorks type-- Real men/ Mongers post photos for their buddies. To appreciate-- Maybe you should get a job at the Braille Institute- they don't require photos. Just a thought.


There you go again. Putting me down simply because you have posted more pictures than I have. But it's fine. You go ahead and keep on believing that somehow makes you better than me. The arrogance in your posts amuses me anyways.

Although, last I checked this is a contribution forum. We post our stories and yes even pictures about mongering. But nowhere does it say it's supposed to be a competition like you believe it is. So go ahead and keep posting pictures and believing you're better than everyone else if it makes you feel better.

[Rob Hay]

Didnt see them 6 months ago at AB but Camila and the younger sister she showed me her id but i dont remember...i wanna say Savilla? look much better as bottle blondes with their new short hair. I went a couple times with the younger sister , older seems to be the brains of the operations telling her sister shes allowed to do me for 60. Camila charged some poor guy 100 and he did it too....poor guy.

Amnesia i can understand but why would anyone move to HK?? They clearly do enjoy drinking and partying and certainly are good a pretending to be into the sex.

[Hizark21]

Are any of the girls willing to give a better price for just a bj...? I have not asked but $60 min seems to be the going rate.

[Dohhh]

The two sisters originated at AB-----like 6 months ago---------Then when they lost any remaining dignity they went to work at HK. After the remodel of course. Camilia-- which you will see in the photos (both as a blonde and a brunette) wasnt fucking enough at HK-- ie her snapper (pussy) wasnt pulling in the dough ($$$$) at HK--- Most dorks there put a buck or two in the G- string and then move on. So she went back to AB to make more money-- FIrst time I fucked her like 6 months ago at AB-- she was the most receptive ***** around-- took all the lumber like a champ==== BUT NO BLOW JOBS-- Now note that she has braces-- so I wasnt too keen on having a Black and Decker Pecker Wrecker working on my Love Tool.

If you want her phone number--- here it is--- but I think it was disconnected or lost or she was too stupid and flakey to pay the bill. I also have her EMAIL-- though she is very very bad about responding.

Once she came to my hotel-- directly from the Tijuana Airport--- so she said-- but she had no Luggage? (that session cost me $100 bucks for servicio al domicilio) REmember they are *****s-- and they have no dignity--- thats why we love them!

Also since I am posting pics-- I need to throttle that little momzer with 587 posts--- Dorks type-- Real men/ Mongers post photos for their buddies. To appreciate-- Maybe you should get a job at the Braille Institute- they don't require photos. Just a thought.Thanks Dermdoc. Keep up the pics. Love them. I live in the Midwest so I don't make it to Tijuana that often. I have seen Camila both as a brunnette (about 1 year ago) and as a blond (6 months ago). Have not had her sister. Both extremely skinny--my type. I only have one pic to contribute, not quite on par with Dermdocs but I will try harder next time.

Cheers

[Efjayel]

If you're only going for a bj, then go for a street girl, they're cheaper. But then I've heard that they suck at doing BJ's. Pun not intended.

[Two Dollars]

Are any of the girls willing to give a better price for just a bj...? I have not asked but $60 min seems to be the going rate.YMV, but BJ only shouldn't cost you more than $50.

[Hizark21]

Yes SG's usually give really lame BJ's. I have only been with 1 or 2 SG's that give a good BJ.

[Supermonger2]

Are any of the girls willing to give a better price for just a bj...? I have not asked but $60 min seems to be the going rate.

A CBJ from a decent street girl naked, is $20 but at the most from girls like Paola, it's $30.

[Hizark21]

These days most of the SG's charge $30 for a bj. There is some SG's that will charge $25. I would not mind spending a bit extra for a good looking Adelita. But paying $60 for a is to much.

[Green_Thumb]

Hit AB about 10:00pm. Surpised to see how slow it was for a Fri night. It did pick up later on but tapered off around 2am. Maybe because of holiday, signs of the economy, I don't know. The selection was so, so. They had a costume contest on stage for the girls that was kinda lame and took way too long.

Session #1. Marlene or Marlie, black hair in ponytail. 24-26. 120-125lbs. Very facially beautiful girl. Session was pretty good, BJ, multiple positions light kissing. $60 Overall: 8

Went to other bars for beers and recharge. Chicago absolutely sucked, walked in, looked around, took a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and walked out. Had some corner tacos & that seafood cocktail, $7 but pretty tasty if you can stomach raw oysters & clams. Hong Kong didn't have much selection either but they had a live band that was actually pretty damn good at old school classic rock. Allowed me to chill out for some beers and enjoyable music. Took long way back to AB to check out the street girls. Worthless.

Session #2. The legendary Claudia! Boy was I glad to see her. She still looks great, body still as tight as a college girl. Are you sure she's 27? Had the best session with her to date (4 previous). Very personable, laughs & jokes with you. In a nutshell: the other girls let YOU fuck them, while Claudia takes you upstairs and SHE fucks your brains out. Pornstar type performance. Was looking forward to seeing her again but she said not working Saturday. $60 Overall: 9. 99

Back to the border about 3:30am, no cops and no line waiting. Going back for more tonight, hope its as good. Will report.

GT

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[Efjayel]

Had some corner tacos & that seafood cocktail, $7 but pretty tasty if you can stomach raw oysters & clams.


I love their Seafood Cocktail. It's called a campechana. Iv'e been looking here in L.A. for a place that has a cocktail simlar to theirs but so far all places fall flat. Oyster's and clams all taste unfresh like they came from a can. It's nothing as near as good as and fresh tasting as what they give you in that stand. Although I hate that the seafood stand buy never washes his hands and takes your money while handling the raw oysters but it's really good it's worth it.

[Belgrath]

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Went to other bars for beers and recharge. Chicago absolutely sucked, walked in, looked around, took a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and walked out.
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Apparently a longtime popular mesero, Juanito thin, grey hair crewcut collapsed in front of CC and died that earlier night so pretty much literally was like a morgue and alot of chicas left reportedly.

[Supermonger2]

These days most of the SG's charge $30 for a bj. There is some SG's that will charge $25. I would not mind spending a bit extra for a good looking Adelita. But paying $60 for a is to much.

Not to argue amigo but I'm there several times a month for thirty years and almost always pay twenty from decent looking chicas...except for a few exceptions like those mentioned. Smiling, speaking Spanish and politely negotiating works miracles.

[Louie OK]

30 years ago I think I paid 20 for a girl at "Pollo" something club. I didn't feel rushed and the girl even fired up a joint. I would think now that the street girls then would've been cheaper back then, but I never experienced them back in those days.

Only in the last 10 years have I been doing the SW scene in TJ. I've rarely paid more than 20 (even for anal). It's true that in recent years inflation seems to be kicking in and many of the girls are wanting more (or will do less).

I haven't done an Adelita girl in 5 years or more in which 40 was the rate (yes and even anal was easily enough to get from some of them). A few times I paid less than 40 when I played hard-to-get. I'm sure it would be harder these days if I put things to the test.

What can I say ? I don't like doing P4P but I'm glad it's there and I will give in when I need to.

[Hizark21]

It's true you can fuck most SG's for $20. But a lot of the SG's want to charge $30 for bj. I got a lame bj from Carla (east end of Cojilla alley) and she want to chage $10 extra for sin ropa. This past week I paid $40 for a better bj from Kristal on ECB. So this is why I prefer SD even though it is harder to find SW's.

I would like to find a girl at Adelita that will charge a reasonable price for bj. I think this is unlikely however.

[Efjayel]

The mentality at AB is that going upstairs is $60 bucks regardless if it's full sex or just a Bj.