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Just run down to Western Union. She will be thrilled and you will be a Western Union popi. Nothing wrong as long as you are happy and stay in charge. She will continue to ask for more. You have to learn how to say no.
Hey all!
My favorite is having a birthday this weekend and I want to get her a little something. Since I am not going back til fall.
I was thinking of getting a gift card for something online, but have no idea what may be a good place to do that for her, since obviously the Spanish speaking internet world is far different than mine.
It will be like a 50 dollar gift, but I feel it is worth it as she has been very good to me! I really don't care if she gets gifts from others or fucks other guys like me. (Sure she does). I like making her happy and she will repay by letting me fuck her friends!
Any ideas for a good site for that sort of thing?
Hey all!
My favorite is having a birthday this weekend and I want to get her a little something. Since I am not going back til fall.
I was thinking of getting a gift card for something online, but have no idea what may be a good place to do that for her, since obviously the Spanish speaking internet world is far different than mine.
It will be like a 50 dollar gift, but I feel it is worth it as she has been very good to me! I really don't care if she gets gifts from others or fucks other guys like me. (Sure she does). I like making her happy and she will repay by letting me fuck her friends!
Any ideas for a good site for that sort of thing?If you're thinking of sending a gift card, you're better off sending cash. The downside of sending cash is that she will expect and ask for cash on a regular basis and it will always be important.
Buy her some clothes, the sort of things you want to see her in. Rainbow has retail stores or online along with many others, like Rose Wholesale. Buy some stuff she can wear for you and some stuff she can wear with friends.
Tell her you bought some presents and that you will bring them next trip. That way you avoid the "Papi send me" syndrome, and you can make sure she earns the gifts.
Mr Enternational
07-10-15, 16:12
Hey all!
My favorite is having a birthday this weekend and I want to get her a little something. Since I am not going back til fall.
I was thinking of getting a gift card for something online, but have no idea what may be a good place to do that for her, since obviously the Spanish speaking internet world is far different than mine.
It will be like a 50 dollar gift, but I feel it is worth it as she has been very good to me! I really don't care if she gets gifts from others or fucks other guys like me. (Sure she does). I like making her happy and she will repay by letting me fuck her friends!And you think you won't be able to fuck her friends if you do not give her anything? Like Old Kool said, just be prepared if you choose to open that door.
Advantageous
07-10-15, 16:43
Hey all!
My favorite is having a birthday this weekend and I want to get her a little something. Since I am not going back til fall.
I was thinking of getting a gift card for something online, but have no idea what may be a good place to do that for her, since obviously the Spanish speaking internet world is far different than mine.
It will be like a 50 dollar gift, but I feel it is worth it as she has been very good to me! I really don't care if she gets gifts from others or fucks other guys like me. (Sure she does). I like making her happy and she will repay by letting me fuck her friends!
Any ideas for a good site for that sort of thing?There's always the option of buying her something based on what you want--maybe there are some heels you've been dying to fuck her in, or a (by Western standards) inexpensive dress you wanted to take her out in next time you're in town. Now you've omitted one more person in line at that way-too-crowded WU down the street from Banco Popular (and all the perks of being a WU novio), and you've given her a gift that you'll both get to enjoy when you see her next (if this chica is as tops as you make her out to be, she'll definitely wear whatever it is).
My one regret is that I missed the period of time in the DR where you could just give one of these chicas a 2-3 generation old iPhone or a generic Android smartphone from Amazon or CL (30) and gift your favoritas impressively (in their eyes) on the cheap; by the time I first made it to Sosua, most of the 7's and higher had the same gen iPhone as me!
Tempoecorto
07-10-15, 17:35
Hey all! My favorite is having a birthday this weekend and I want to get her a little something.This is definitely a challenge as concepts like gift cards or even store gift cards do not exist there, as far as I could tell. I understand you can send flowers but it is ridiculously priced. Indeed once I was thinking of buying remotely from one of the large supermercados, La Sirena for example, for the recipient to pick it up at the other end, but it appeared that it was not feasible. Indeed your best bet remains Western Union or Xoom (via Caribe express).
OldSchool318
07-10-15, 19:06
And you think you won't be able to fuck her friends if you do not give her anything? Like Old Kool said, just be prepared if you choose to open that door.This girl brings her friends around for me to fuck. I dig that! I have already told her no when needed and I am not going to send her money. I just want to do something nice as she has been great to me.
I was thinking of maybe giving her an Amazon card, but I am not sure she would know what the fuck to do with it!
Hey all!
My favorite is having a birthday this weekend and I want to get her a little something. Since I am not going back til fall.
I was thinking of getting a gift card for something online, but have no idea what may be a good place to do that for her, since obviously the Spanish speaking internet world is far different than mine.
It will be like a 50 dollar gift, but I feel it is worth it as she has been very good to me! I really don't care if she gets gifts from others or fucks other guys like me. (Sure she does). I like making her happy and she will repay by letting me fuck her friends!
Any ideas for a good site for that sort of thing?
You are missing it OLK. My man Old is just trying to sho love on the strength. He never said his chica was pressuring him for dinero. Straight up; if I was dealing with just one chica and she is not a puta, like my lawyer friend. I would get her a basket from Bath and Body Works. You can get a nice assortment at that price. And a card tittled simplemente porque. If she was a puta I would just give her 50. Tell her you were thinking about her and the wind blew this to you. So it must belong to her. I that doesn't work- I still have good quality Hindu pelo with an ISG discount. LOL It won't hurt your pockets too bad.
On the real notice I said give or get. Meaning me there or her here. I respected you Old showing love and all; but I let all my putas know- if you can't send me your cono, don't asked me to send you my dinero.
Spending 50 bucks for flowers for someone who is scraping to get by is asinine. Her honey take these pretty flowers. She thinks I can not eat these. These ladies have real issues that only money can solve puta or non pro. Like my man says she may have several other guys doing the same shit. We all learn the hard way not to have serious relationships with DR ladies. For you guys who do good luck.
You are missing it OLK. My man Old is just trying to sho love on the strength. He never said his chica was pressuring him for dinero. Straight up; if I was dealing with just one chica and she is not a puta, like my lawyer friend. I would get her a basket from Bath and Body Works. You can get a nice assortment at that price. And a card tittled simplemente porque. If she was a puta I would just give her 50. Tell her you were thinking about her and the wind blew this to you. So it must belong to her. I that doesn't work- I still have good quality Hindu pelo with an ISG discount. LOL It won't hurt your pockets too bad.
On the real notice I said give or get. Meaning me there or her here. I respected you Old showing love and all; but I let all my putas know- if you can't send me your cono, don't asked me to send you my dinero.
OldSchool318
07-11-15, 04:24
Spending 50 bucks for flowers for someone who is scraping to get by is asinine. Her honey take these pretty flowers. She thinks I can not eat these. These ladies have real issues that only money can solve puta or non pro. Like my man says she may have several other guys doing the same shit. We all learn the hard way not to have serious relationships with DR ladies. For you guys who do good luck.I just find acts of kindness for some of these girls who's company I have grown to enjoy is a show of strength.
On my last trip I gave this girl face cream. It made her so happy! What is wrong with that? I could care less about her novio or other guys she fucks. Lord knows I have more than one woman in my stable. If she asks for money I will tell her no. When she has provided me a shitload of pleasure and fun I have no problem treating her like a nice girl. Even if I know she is anything but.
She has brought me 2 of her girls and the 4 of us all fucked. That makes this all worth it.
You need to really know what you are doing if you decide to send something of value to a puta.
Not recommended, but depends how much she does for you, and how smart you are about it.
If you send her 50 bucks just for her birthday, it will be difficult later to say no to her requests for more dire needs like medicine, or food for the kid if she gets "sick", or even to top up her phone minutes so she can tell you she "lobes" you three time a day.
Say no, and that nice birthday gift will be forgotten and you will feel like trying to be nice is wasted shit, which it always is. LOL. Money is the only thing they want and understand, because most are in survival mode.
I have had a great regular for years now and we have worked things out. I give her money when I'm there, as part of my budget. But the only money I ever send down there nowadays is a week or so before I arrive, so she can take care of her place in her distant town, phone bill, bus and taxi fare, get her hair and nails done, new dress, that sort of thing, so she will be absolutely ready to give me a complete hassle free week, without having to worry about shit back at her family and home.
Actually, my always buys ME gifts, personal stuff like simple jewelry, shirts, and even shoes! I'm sure she has smart assed friends like some on this board, who tell her she's crazy for buying stuff for a stupid gringo, Lol.
Sosua used to be a little more GF romantic. Chicas and mongers would hang together for a few days, even have a lovers quarrel when they broke up, (or the monger saw something better. Lol). They even had real flower sellers around the bars, and it wasn't unusual to see the chicas with a bunch of flowers at the bar. Now it looks stupid.
But most of that old magic is long gone.
Now, it seems, it's strictly business, P4 P, pretty much commercialized.
So, if you can find a good regular that can do it all for you, much recommended, you are a lucky man.
These girls are very poor. They are thrilled with anything they get but money floats the boat I AM always kind to the ladies but I know that without finance there is no romance. They love you when you can pay their bills. In DR culture they expect their men to pay for the honor of banging them. So at the end of the day remember she is a puta. Give her whatever you want if it makes you happy. However this is a simple game. You pay to play.
I just find acts of kindness for some of these girls who's company I have grown to enjoy is a show of strength.
On my last trip I gave this girl face cream. It made her so happy! What is wrong with that? I could care less about her novio or other guys she fucks. Lord knows I have more than one woman in my stable. If she asks for money I will tell her no. When she has provided me a shitload of pleasure and fun I have no problem treating her like a nice girl. Even if I know she is anything but.
She has brought me 2 of her girls and the 4 of us all fucked. That makes this all worth it.
Tempoecorto
07-11-15, 16:24
I just find acts of kindness for some of these girls who's company I have grown to enjoy is a show of strengthI think whatever you want to do with your own money is your choice no matter what others say. Having said that, I do agree with Old Kool and Oakie that most of the women you come across there have a hand to mouth existence and so money is something they value the most. It is as Maslow had described it. Food, medication and the likes. Anything on top of that is appreciated, especially if it is brought from somewhere else. I personally wished I could get them a card in a grocery store, which probably would be of most use to them.
Yes, even the non-puta shop owner I met on Sosua beach who spent two nights with me showed me her insurance bill that was more than three months behind in payment so I paid the 5000 P. It was worth it to me to bang this lovely 35 yo 38 D 24 34 tight pussy. I bought her a bikini, too. She knew how to grab my balls right before I filled her up. Mmmm good.
These girls are very poor. They are thrilled with anything they get but money floats the boat I AM always kind to the ladies but I know that without finance there is no romance. They love you when you can pay their bills. In DR culture they expect their men to pay for the honor of banging them. So at the end of the day remember she is a puta. Give her whatever you want if it makes you happy. However this is a simple game. You pay to play..
Yes, even the non-puta shop owner I met on Sosua beach who spent two nights with me showed me her insurance bill that was more than three months behind in payment so I paid the 5000 P. It was worth it to me to bang this lovely 35 yo 38 D 24 34 tight pussy. I bought her a bikini, too. She knew how to grab my balls right before I filled her up. Mmmm good.
.How did you figure out she was a non puta?
Mmmmm! A girl on the beach who's ready to move in for two nights, with unpaid bills. :)
How did you figure out she was a non puta?
Mmmmm! A girl on the beach who's ready to move in for two nights, with unpaid bills. :)That's not fair unless you add in the fact that she show him the amount she owed. LOL.
" I don't need your money I have my own ".
She owned a shop on the beach, Oakie. Where did you learn to read? Jajajajaaj
How did you figure out she was a non puta?
Mmmmm! A girl on the beach who's ready to move in for two nights, with unpaid bills. :).
She owned a shop on the beach, Oakie. Where did you learn to read? Jajajajaaj
.Don't suppose you'd give me her phone number? :)
Don't suppose you'd give me her phone number? :)Sorry, I don't know you.
These girls are very poor. They are thrilled with anything they get but money floats the boat I AM always kind to the ladies but I know that without finance there is no romance. They love you when you can pay their bills. In DR culture they expect their men to pay for the honor of banging them. So at the end of the day remember she is a puta. Give her whatever you want if it makes you happy. However this is a simple game. You pay to play.It's just not just the DR culture, but many other Latin American countries as well where the men pay to bang them!
Phreeman69
07-15-15, 14:59
An amiga I met on FB is meeting me at my hotel for a drink and amor. I haven't been in Sosua in years, what should I offer her? I was thinking 1000 pesos.
I can speak Spanish and I'll court her a bit, but I don't want price to be a topic for extended discussion. I want to just say a number that she's fine with, but not go too high, obviously. It's during early afternoon for an hour or two.
Thanks for your comments, and also any pointers regarding managing contacts through facebook. It seems like FB could be very efficient, but in reality it takes a lot of time to check their age and city, message them, find out they won't talk to you without a photo, etc.
An amiga I met on FB is meeting me at my hotel for a drink and amor. I haven't been in Sosua in years, what should I offer her? I was thinking 1000 pesos.
I can speak Spanish and I'll court her a bit, but I don't want price to be a topic for extended discussion. I want to just say a number that she's fine with, but not go too high, obviously. It's during early afternoon for an hour or two.
Thanks for your comments, and also any pointers regarding managing contacts through facebook. It seems like FB could be very efficient, but in reality it takes a lot of time to check their age and city, message them, find out they won't talk to you without a photo, etc.I'm sure there are experts who have a better idea, but instead of offering a price, why not ask something neutral. Unless her Facebook hints pretty strongly that she's pay 4 play, offering her cash is probably a bad idea. She's probably hoping for a more long-term and lucrative arrangement.
Offer her 1000 pesos up front and chances are good, you just wasted money buying drinks. If she is selling, 1000 will be offensive to her, she'll probably think 4000, willing to settle for 2000 or maybe 1500, if you're charming. If she isn't selling, she's either looking at this as the first step to a husband or a Western Union Novio. In either case she'll be insulted.
Why not just ask her how much she wants, or what she expects? If she wants money, she'll give a price and you can negotiate. If she wants a relationship, figure out how you want to deal with it and go from there.
Camaro1257
07-15-15, 17:50
An amiga I met on FB is meeting me at my hotel for a drink and amor. I haven't been in Sosua in years, what should I offer her? I was thinking 1000 pesos.
I can speak Spanish and I'll court her a bit, but I don't want price to be a topic for extended discussion. I want to just say a number that she's fine with, but not go too high, obviously. It's during early afternoon for an hour or two.
Thanks for your comments, and also any pointers regarding managing contacts through facebook. It seems like FB could be very efficient, but in reality it takes a lot of time to check their age and city, message them, find out they won't talk to you without a photo, etc.The low end is 1000 and the top end would be 2000 pesos. If she is not happy with 1500 pesos she would get a side eye from me since this is low season.
Phreeman69
07-18-15, 03:54
The low end is 1000 and the top end would be 2000 pesos. If she is not happy with 1500 pesos she would get a side eye from me since this is low season.Thanks Camaro. It worked out fine. I met a delightful, 24 year old Haitian on the street and after chatting her up offered her 1000. She countered with 2000, and we agreed to split the difference. Others have mentioned the enthusiastic Haitian attitude. This one certainly was both affectionate and worked hard.
That night I offered a shy, little cutie-pie 1500. She wanted 2000, but after I told her I was moving on (I kind of lost interest) she said she would agree to 1500. Instead, I took two pushy girlfriends home. They offered a rate of 1000 each, but then they pretty quickly tried to up-sell when I got them in the room. I was having none of that, but I did tip them 500 (to split between them) for a good effort.
Sosua seems little changed from when I was here years ago. There are more bars (not all full), and ladies outnumber guys significantly.
There may be a full two year gap between visits to the Island for me. For those of you who have stepped away for a couple of years, was it hard to find an old favorite or is it common to see the same chicas plying their trade for three or more years?
The shelf life of the girls is very short. I knew a 19 year old who two years ago who was a newby. I was one of her first customers. She was fresh and somewhat innocent. I now see her every trip. She is now a tough hard core girl who scares the shit at of me. Those favorites from a few years ago can go very bad very fast. The life these girls live can be very hard.
There may be a full two year gap between visits to the Island for me. For those of you who have stepped away for a couple of years, was it hard to find an old favorite or is it common to see the same chicas plying their trade for three or more years?
ForceSteeler
07-20-15, 06:22
The shelf life of the girls is very short. I knew a 19 year old who two years ago who was a newby. I was one of her first customers. She was fresh and somewhat innocent. I now see her every trip. She is now a tough hard core girl who scares the shit at of me. Those favorites from a few years ago can go very bad very fast. The life these girls live can be very hard.Yeah these girls in Sosua burn out real quick, I have seen so many 18-22 year old girls that look fresh and innocent, give them 6 months- 1 year and they start looking like shit. Having sex with hundreds of guys every month can take a toll on your body. Plus.
The constant partying everyday all night, drinking presidente, and not sleeping and taking care of your body also make you age quick, Plus these Dominician Girls are lazy, most of them do not exercise and exercise can do wonders and make you look younger.
The only working girls that age well to me is Brazilian women, I have seen a chick I fucked in the 4 x 4 Termas Casa in 2010, Look 100 x Times better when I seen her in 2014. She was ripped with muscle, She is 33 Years old and She can pass for a 21 Year old.
That is because Brazilians take care of there bodies, and they take exercising seriously. They do not play when it comes to there body and looks, They keep it top notch!.
Phreeman69
07-20-15, 15:31
I had some decent luck on Facebook that might be interesting to the forum. The night scene is fine, but it is hard to get something nice during the day. A 19-year old local on FB agreed to meet me, and brought an 18-year old friend. She had had a 34-year old American boyfriend who gave her presents, but they were not P4P. I got them back to my room for a (bad) massage, but with both together I couldn't get anything going. They were sexy showoffs on FB, but reserved in person.
Another, "Denia," worked out better. She came to me from Puerto Plata, where she lives with her sister. I don't think she knew what to expect. She was surprised when I kissed her on the lips when she entered my room. We hadn't said anything more on FB than that I was an older American and wanted to meet her (and that I would pay her transportation, 100 pesos). She had lunch and a couple beers on my patio (Casa Cayena has the perfect setup for this type of thing). Then she took a shower and we hopped in bed. She was hesitant to do some of what I wanted but with some coaxing she obliged. It's fun because the new ones want to get themselves off as well as you. That's a turn-on.
I gave her 1500, we had never talked money at all. She said she had never been with a foreign tourist like this. I take this kind of comment with a grain of salt, but I believe her. Her FB page had pictures of her family and everything. We talked frankly about P4P. She needs the money, but she would never work the bars at night.
There has got to be a better way to use FB to introduce these newbies to hobbyists. There are a lot of younger, less hardened ladies who would agree to meet in, for example, the hotel bar for a drink in the afternoon, and then take it from there. We need an "Amigas de Sosua" FB page to select from!
One other cautionary tale. A lady I brought back changed her attitude after taking a shower and getting naked. I should have picked up the warning signs in the bar, but honestly the selection is less ample on Sunday nights. I was having none of it and told her she would have to leave, but that I would give her 500 pesos. She, of course, demanded the full 1500. I got dressed, cracked the door and told her I would fetch security. She left. (Her name was Esmerelda, long straight hair, light-skinned and somewhat tall and slim).
Lessons: it's good to know the security guy's name and chat him up when you come in with the chica so she knows you know him. Rafael at Casa Cayena is good too because he keeps the hotel locked and is always just a few steps away. It's also good to have all belongings away and locked up so that if there is trouble with the chica you have less exposure in the room. Shit happens, but it's not a big deal.
Mr Enternational
07-20-15, 17:02
Yeah these girls in Sosua burn out real quick, I have seen so many 18-22 year old girls that look fresh and innocent, give them 6 months- 1 year and they start looking like shit. Having sex with hundreds of guys every month can take a toll on your body.What hyperbolization. I doubt there is any hooker anywhere on the planet that has sex with hundreds of guys every month. And in Sosua I wouldn't even say it averages to 1 per day. Phreeman69 just mentioned that the girls significantly outnumber the guys. I know hookers around the planet who follow the same regimen that Sosua girls do, yet they do not become close to "grimey" even after a couple of or a few years. Sosua chicas just have a je ne sais quoi about them.
Mr Enternational
07-20-15, 17:22
There has got to be a better way to use FB to introduce these newbies to hobbyists. There are a lot of younger, less hardened ladies who would agree to meet in, for example, the hotel bar for a drink in the afternoon, and then take it from there. We need an "Amigas de Sosua" FB page to select from!I don't know if you realize that you are making a valiant effort to kill your golden goose by making an all-call like this. You do know that the ones who are hardened are like that because of their contact with foreigners whom they eventually realize they can get over on by means of poor service, begging, upselling, manipulation, and threats? And you want to introduce them to more foreigners? DR isn't but so big so there is not an endless supply of women who will do P4P. Any picture of a Sosua chica that you post on here half the board will more than likely recognize her, if they haven't been with her. Don't give away all of your secrets.
What hyperbolization. I doubt there is any hooker anywhere on the planet that has sex with hundreds of guys every month. And in Sosua I wouldn't even say it averages to 1 per day. Phreeman69 just mentioned that the girls significantly outnumber the guys. I know hookers around the planet who follow the same regimen that Sosua girls do, yet they do not become close to "grimey" even after a couple of or a few years. Sosua chicas just have a je ne sais quoi about them.Sorry to disagree with you amigo. Tomjackin did a report some time back about some place in central America where the guys lined up to fuck the two girls and the line was out the door. GPB girls can do about 4-8 guys a day. , then some after work. These girls don't waste time negotiating or going through an interview so time is maximized. Doing over 100 guys a month in some of these barrios third world countries is not unheard of. We don't patronize these type of establishments so we don't know.
Also the wear and tear on the girls becomes evident over time. They become fast money chasers and maybe their hygiene might suffer. Maybe they don't pay attention to detail with their appearance because they just view themselves as fuck toys. Their self esteem is low and they look tired, then they internally hate all men for lowering her value.
My trip last month to Boca chica with Grownman we met this beauty on the beach who had just arrived from the campo. I wanted her but Grownman had first dibs on this trip so he knocked her off. Grownman gave me the heads up about terrible sex with this chica but good head. The next day I got horny in the afternoon and went to the beach stand she hangs out at to see if her 1000 peso special was still in effect. It was, and I gave up on the intercourse because she was fighting against it so I settled for head which was pretty good. We talked after and she doesn't like to fuck but she gives head about 5 times a day and she likes that better than fucking. She said gives head to about 3 Dominicans and a couple tourists a day. I actually felt bad for the girl because she was beautiful but not very smart. I had to tell her my name 5 times, I would tell her my name and ask her 10 seconds later what it was and she didn't remember. This went on till she finally remembered after the fifth time. She had been broken down to sucking dick and looking good, that was her life.
Most girls go home alone. There always more ladies then guys. The top shelf ladies get the consistent work. They know how attract and close the deal because they get the work. I like the girls who are motivated and a little hungry. These ladies are often grateful for the work and perform. They act like they have something to prove. Some of these ladies may do one or 2 guys a week. The top 20 girls get 80% of the business. IMHO The problem most of us have is letting the girls pick you as opposed to you selecting them. Sport fucking affects the working girls and makes them cold. If they like you and the see you chasing other girls they feel stupid so their defenses are up. I like GFE so I use charm to soften them up.
What hyperbolization. I doubt there is any hooker anywhere on the planet that has sex with hundreds of guys every month. And in Sosua I wouldn't even say it averages to 1 per day. Phreeman69 just mentioned that the girls significantly outnumber the guys. I know hookers around the planet who follow the same regimen that Sosua girls do, yet they do not become close to "grimey" even after a couple of or a few years. Sosua chicas just have a je ne sais quoi about them.
Actually, I just wanted to know if chicas last two years or more so I guess they do but---
You guys make a good point about wear and tear. I've noticed as a newbie to the DR that there are some really hot, naturally beautiful chicas that just look exhausted. I could be wrong but my theory is that the local guys began to go through them when they were in their early teens. The family needed cash and the family knew she'd make a lot of money selling herself so she turned pro in her mid-teens. By her late teens she was strolling around Sosua getting 2 or 3 short-timers per night, six nights per week.
At some point the easy money became and addiction so even though she wanted to end it she couldn't. Maybe she is supporting 12 family members now too at age 22 so there's that pressure too. So now I roll up and meet her when she is 23. I notice she is beautiful but she looks like she is 30. She offers no emotion or passion. Just sex.
These women, from what I've seen, also seem to have a screw loose. All that fucking without emotion messes with their brain chemistry or something, I don't know.
What I don't understand is why these type of chicas don't do what some other 8's and 9's do. Line up 10 or 11 suckers to WU them $100 to $200 or so per month each. These chicas are the players I see strolling around Sosua looking fine as hell but they can barely be bothered to look at a gent. They remind me of American women.
Mr Enternational
07-21-15, 04:26
Sorry to disagree with you amigo. Tomjackin did a report some time back about some place in central America where the guys lined up to fuck the two girls and the line was out the door. GPB girls can do about 4-8 guys a day. , then some after work. These girls don't waste time negotiating or going through an interview so time is maximized. Doing over 100 guys a month in some of these barrios third.Shhh. Except you forget that I saw the list and the girls getting paid in GBP a couple of weeks ago. The highest one had 1000 pesos if recall correctly, which means 2 tricks? While a couple had 1 and some had none. And none of them appeared the least bit interested in sessioning after work. (I tried to get one to come with me.) They were breaking their necks to get home. So that is a long way off from hundreds of tricks in a month. Even if a GBP girl did do 100 guys in one month that would mean 50,000 pesos for her. And I have not seen any chick in a DR brothel who looks like they are even thinking about raking in that type of cash.
Yeah these girls in Sosua burn out real quick, I have seen so many 18-22 year old girls that look fresh and innocent, give them 6 months- 1 year and they start looking like shit. Having sex with hundreds of guys every month can take a toll on your body. Plus.
The constant partying everyday all night, drinking presidente, and not sleeping and taking care of your body also make you age quick, Plus these Dominician Girls are lazy, most of them do not exercise and exercise can do wonders and make you look younger.
The only working girls that age well to me is Brazilian women, I have seen a chick I fucked in the 4 x 4 Termas Casa in 2010, Look 100 x Times better when I seen her in 2014. She was ripped with muscle, She is 33 Years old and She can pass for a 21 Year old.
That is because Brazilians take care of there bodies, and they take exercising seriously. They do not play when it comes to there body and looks, They keep it top notch!.Your comparison to Brazil is spot on. I'm thinking poverty may have something to do with it. My experience is that the better off countries have women with better bodies. The Dominican Republic is one of the poorest countries in which I have hobbied. India which has a very low per capita GDP would be another very poor country in which I have sessioned and the bodies on many of the providers there are comparable to Dominicans. However, taking care of the body is important so it could be argued that Haitians have better bodies than Dominicans even though Haiti is a poorer country. The diet In Asia (less junk food) enables Asian women to have much healthier bodies than western women. Also the majority of mongers in Asian countries are from Asia (especially from China, S Korea and Japan) which means less wear and tear on the women's bodies compared to the wear and tear caused by men from the west. In Thailand where I am now it is very easy to session with girls with slim hot bodies with beautiful faces and smooth flawless skin.
ForceSteeler
07-21-15, 13:27
Your comparison to Brazil is spot on. I'm thinking poverty may have something to do with it. My experience is that the better off countries have women with better bodies. The Dominican Republic is one of the poorest countries in which I have hobbied. India which has a very low per capita GDP would be another very poor country in which I have sessioned and the bodies on many of the providers there are comparable to Dominicans. However, taking care of the body is important so it could be argued that Haitians have better bodies than Dominicans even though Haiti is a poorer country. The diet In Asia (less junk food) enables Asian women to have much healthier bodies than western women. Also the majority of mongers in Asian countries are from Asia (especially from China, S Korea and Japan) which means less wear and tear on the women's bodies compared to the wear and tear caused by men from the west. In Thailand where I am now it is very easy to session with girls with slim hot bodies with beautiful faces and smooth flawless skin.Its also the mindset of the people, In Brazil your body is like a temple, Brazilians are so much into there looks and there body that there a beast in the gym, and it also translates into the bedroom which is why you can never truly say you had good sex until you.
Fucked a Brazilian chick. These women are a beast in bed. They workout and take care of there body which is why they have so much energy and are very wild in bed. I never had a bad nut in Brazil. Never!
Its also the mindset of the people, In Brazil your body is like a temple, Brazilians are so much into there looks and there body that there a beast in the gym, and it also translates into the bedroom which is why you can never truly say you had good sex until you.
Fucked a Brazilian chick. These women are a beast in bed. They workout and take care of there body which is why they have so much energy and are very wild in bed. I never had a bad nut in Brazil. Never!I agree. My best sessions ever have been in Brazil. Also, I rate Brazilian and Argentinian women as the most beautiful in Latin America. Even more so than Colombianas. I can't wait til after the Olympics next year to return to Rio; prices should be more reasonable then.
These women, from what I've seen, also seem to have a screw loose. All women everywhere have a few screws loose (algunas tornillas sueltas); that is one of the main reasons mongering was invented, so that they can be gotten rid of more easily.
All women everywhere have a few screws loose (algunas tornillas sueltas); that is one of the main reasons mongering was invented, so that they can be gotten rid of more easily.No, I don't mean the usual level of nuttiness we see in most women. I mean some sort of semen PTSD that some of the high-mile but good looking chicas sometimes exhibit. The hundred mile stare, the lack of emotional range, the bizarre behavior.
I've seen this type of personality from some of these chicas but not from the more overweight and less desired chicas.
I agree. My best sessions ever have been in Brazil. Also, I rate Brazilian and Argentinian women as the most beautiful in Latin America. Even more so than Colombianas. I can't wait til after the Olympics next year to return to Rio; prices should be more reasonable then.The Real is 3.17 to the USD today. Hopefully this trend will continue. I've never been to Brazil but I've always wanted to go but I too am waiting for it to get more affordable. Venezuela is another fantasy destination and would be extremely cheap but it is far, far too dangerous for Americans.
Actually, I just wanted to know if chicas lasted two years or more...
What I don't understand is why these type of chicas don't do what some other 8's and 9's do. Line up 10 or 11 suckers to WU them $100 to $200 or so per month each. These chicas are the players I see strolling around Sosua looking fine as hell but they can barely be bothered to look at a gent. They remind me of American women.What I don't understand is how you have obtained detailed information on the finances and modus operandi of certain chicas, and yet in other areas like the longevity of chicas, you have no information at all. I presume that you could, if you wished, name several of these women who have multiple sponsors, or are you just making it up as you go along. Sorry to be skeptical, but to me the story of how the information was obtained is as interesting as the story itself.
I would have thought that stringing along 10 sponsors and keeping them all happy would be a full time job even if the gurl is single, so why would they be strolling around Sosua in their spare time? Makes no sense to me.
ForceSteeler
07-22-15, 01:13
What I don't understand is how you have obtained detailed information on the finances and modus operandi of certain chicas, and yet in other areas like the longevity of chicas, you have no information at all. I presume that you could, if you wished, name several of these women who have multiple sponsors, or are you just making it up as you go along. Sorry to be skeptical, but to me the story of how the information was obtained is as interesting as the story itself.
I would have thought that stringing along 10 sponsors and keeping them all happy would be a full time job even if the gurl is single, so why would they be strolling around Sosua in their spare time? Makes no sense to me.Good point, but I never understand why guys waste money and time on being a western union sucker. These guys don't realize you can waste that money on a local chick? Right now its so easy. Girls willing to suck and fuck for the newest pair of Jordans.
Flying all the way to DR is for sport fuckers or guys that have wives and need something on the side without breaking a happy home, you don't go to DR for a relationship and becoming a WU sucker. Its pointless, you can trick that money on a college girl, in.
The United States, at least you will get the pussy everyday instead of waiting 3-4 months to plan your next trip and having to think about does she have something hard in her mouth.
Mr Enternational
07-22-15, 03:56
What I don't understand is how you have obtained detailed information on the finances and modus operandi of certain chicas, and yet in other areas like the longevity of chicas, you have no information at all. I presume that you could, if you wished, name several of these women who have multiple sponsors, or are you just making it up as you go along.Well he started his post off with
I could be wrong but my theory is...
So I took it as the entire post was a fantasy and pure speculation in his head and not based on gathered facts. Come on, supporting 12 family members? But still, even a theory should be based on some real information. It seems that he just saw a few chicks in the street, fucked a couple of them, and from that came up with an entire life story and mental analysis for the population of Sosua sex workers.
The hundred mile stare, the lack of emotional range, the bizarre behaviorHave you ever heard of drugs?
I smoke a little weed every now and then. In the DR the vast majority of chica I have dealt with did not do any drugs. Most think weed is like cocaine. I do tend to pick chicas who are sweet and somewhat innocent. I have run into a few who used but they have been rare. I do not drink but do enjoy a nice buzz every now and then. I was surprised how few of the ladies were like minded.
Have you ever heard of drugs?
Have you ever heard of drugs?Yes I have.
Good point, but I never understand why guys waste money and time on being a western union sucker. These guys don't realize you can waste that money on a local chick? Right now its so easy. Girls willing to suck and fuck for the newest pair of Jordans.
Flying all the way to DR is for sport fuckers or guys that have wives and need something on the side without breaking a happy home, you don't go to DR for a relationship and becoming a WU sucker. Its pointless, you can trick that money on a college girl, in.
The United States, at least you will get the pussy everyday instead of waiting 3-4 months to plan your next trip and having to think about does she have something hard in her mouth.I think some guys feel it is love so they send money.
Good point, but I never understand why guys waste money and time on being a western union sucker. These guys don't realize you can waste that money on a local chick? Right now its so easy. Girls willing to suck and fuck for the newest pair of Jordans.
Flying all the way to DR is for sport fuckers or guys that have wives and need something on the side without breaking a happy home, you don't go to DR for a relationship and becoming a WU sucker. Its pointless, you can trick that money on a college girl, in.
The United States, at least you will get the pussy everyday instead of waiting 3-4 months to plan your next trip and having to think about does she have something hard in her mouth.
There's this giant myth about WU novios. It's a cliche that covers many different kinds of relationships. Easily dismissed as stupid. Save a ho, and all that.
The myth is that guys who scheme and plot and research low end holes like Sosua, to get the best bang for his buck, are going to send their hard earned money every week or every month to some street walker, who may not even be around the next time he visits in a years time. Makes no sense to anybody.
It's a strawman.
The truth is, it is much more nuanced and complicated than that. There are many, more savvy, DR women that have been scooped from stores, pharmacias banks, restaurants and bars, who are willing to give it all to a foreigner they admire, in exchange for financial security. Some of these women are kept in condos, with motoconchos, even SUVs, by frequent prosperous, financially well off businessmen. The relationship is tested for longevity, (in cases I'm aware of, they maybe hired in the guys business, and she's watched for fidelity over time, by his friends and her coworkers).
This arrangement can, and I can tell your firsthand does, often lead to a marriage / union and children, there, or in a foreign land, (if he should be deported, LOL.).
I'm not talking about mongers here, but guys to whom money is nothing, to get a subservient beautiful young wife, eager to please her master. He typically may have such an arrangement with more than one "wife" around the world, not to mention a ball breaking fraulein in charge of his business back home, LOL.
Many Sosua chicas strut and dream of this future (which accounts for that hard to get attitude among the top shelf girls, that common mongers complain about here, LOL) but only a very few are smart enough and disciplined enough or lucky enough to actually see it come true.
That's where most of the WU money goes, not from guys on a "consumers report" style mongering board like this one, where even raising the price of a cerveza a few pesos is enough to send regulars off en mass, to a new bar down the street. lol.
If it makes you feel good to call them suckers and hos, go ahead, but real life goes on without them worrying about what you think.
ForceSteeler
07-22-15, 12:49
There are many, more savvy, DR women that have been scooped from stores, pharmacias banks, restaurants and bars, who are willing to give it all to a foreigner they admire, in exchange for financial security. Some of these women are kept in condos, with motoconchos, even SUVs, by frequent prosperous, financially well off businessmen. The relationship is tested for longevity, (in cases I'm aware of, they maybe hired in the guys business, and she's watched for fidelity over time, by his friends and her coworkers).
This arrangement can, and I can tell your firsthand does, often lead to a marriage / union and children, there, or in a foreign land, (if he should be deported, LOL.).
I'm not talking about mongers here, but guys to whom money is nothing, to get a subservient beautiful young wife, eager to please her master. He typically may have such an arrangement with more than one "wife" around the world, not to mention his ball breaking fraulein in charge of his business back home, LOL.
Many Sosua chicas strut and dream of this future (which accounts for that hard to get attitude among the top shelf girls, that common mongers complain about here, LOL) but only a very few are smart enough and disciplined enough or lucky enough to actually see it come true.
That's where most of the WU money goes, not from guys on a "consumers report" style mongering board like this one!Yeah but if you want to be a sugar daddy and give women support, You don't have to do it on a 3rd world girl, There are plenty of broke hungry girls in the USA, that will suck and fuck for the latest tennis shoes, and Gucci Bag just so they can brag to there.
Friends on facebook and instagram. I have nothing against being a sugar daddy, I Just seen so many WU Suckers that send hundreds of dollars a month to there so call "girlfriend" and only visit Sousa DR like 1 or 2 Times a Year. Its stupid and pointless, and.
Still most of these chicas cheat anyways. Trust me I fucked to many chicas that had my cock in 1 hand and text there sponser on the other hand, Telling them they miss them and they love them. While later that night her back is getting blown out by me.
If you live in DR or your in DR damn near every month then cool I can understand being a sugar daddy, but if you only there 1-3 Times a Year, don't be a WU Suckers, you can trick that money on a local struggling college student, and you get the pussy.
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There's this giant myth about WU novios. It's a cliche that covers many different kinds of relationships. Easily dismissed as stupid. Save a ho, and all that.
The myth is that guys who scheme and plot and research low end holes like Sosua, to get the best bang for his buck, are going to send their hard earned money every week or every month to some street walker, who may not even be around the next time he visits in a years time. Makes no sense to anybody.
It's a strawman.
The truth is, it is much more nuanced and complicated than that. There are many, more savvy, DR women that have been scooped from stores, pharmacias banks, restaurants and bars, who are willing to give it all to a foreigner they admire, in exchange for financial security. Some of these women are kept in condos, with motoconchos, even SUVs, by frequent prosperous, financially well off businessmen. The relationship is tested for longevity, (in cases I'm aware of, they maybe hired in the guys business, and she's watched for fidelity over time, by his friends and her coworkers).
This arrangement can, and I can tell your firsthand does, often lead to a marriage / union and children, there, or in a foreign land, (if he should be deported, LOL.).
I'm not talking about mongers here, but guys to whom money is nothing, to get a subservient beautiful young wife, eager to please her master..That's an excellent description and it happens all over the world, in many different ways, but there's also the other type. They hang out on dating sites like DC and look for the suckers. They sweet talk, send pictures and then they have a sick child, or their mother lost her job, or some other emergency. Papi, necesito dinero. If they can get any money from you, they keep sending the pictures, if they get nothing they look elsewhere.
For the type you describe, it's called a Sugar Daddy. An attractive woman, who I've known all my life had one for several years, a very rich Mexican who frequently traveled to the US, to the city she lived in. He put her up in a nice house, with a maid, bought her a new car, fur coats, jewelry, paid to send her kid to private school, paid to send her to college. He took her on trips all over the world.
Then there's the one I met. She was bored, had just come back from a long stay overseas with someone who wanted a trophy wife. She found out he had lied about his money and came home and met me at the house of a mutual friend. She spent about 5 months with me until her mom / pimp found her someone with enough money. He put her up in an apartment and gave her everything she needed and a few times a week he'd drop by to collect on his investment.
There's also another type, you'll find them on the different cam sites. They get naked on their camera while anywhere from a dozen to several thousand guys watch. Some tip a little, but some fall in love. I know one such girl. I've seen her pull in almost $4000 in less than 5 hours. All of it from guys who will never meet her. Without even the pretense they are the only one. She averages spending 5 hours a week online and makes about $100 k per year.
Pussy is a commodity, some are better at marketing it than others, and some are better at shopping for it.
Yeah but if you want to be a sugar daddy and give women support, You don't have to do it on a 3rd world girl, There are plenty of broke hungry girls in the USA, that will suck and fuck for the latest tennis shoes, and Gucci Bag just so they can brag to there.
Friends on facebook and instagram. I have nothing against being a sugar daddy, I Just seen so many WU Suckers that send hundreds of dollars a month to there so call "girlfriend" and only visit Sousa DR like 1 or 2 Times a Year. Its stupid and pointless, and.
Still most of these chicas cheat anyways. Trust me I fucked to many chicas that had my cock in 1 hand and text there sponser on the other hand, Telling them they miss them and they love them. While later that night her back is getting blown out by me.
If you live in DR or your in DR damn near every month then cool I can understand being a sugar daddy, but if you only there 1-3 Times a Year, don't be a WU Suckers, you can trick that money on a local struggling college student, and you get the pussy.
Everyday and anytime of the week]As I said that's a strawdog.
I don't know anybody who sends "hundreds of dollars every month" and only goes once a year, LOL.
You must hang with some stupid shit!
Ken_Apples
07-22-15, 17:31
Pussy is a commodity, some are better at marketing it than others, and some are better at shopping for it.This my friend, should be a forum thread on it's own.
If pussy did grow on trees, the economical model of today (Male population working to bring home some cash, giving it to the female population) would collapse.
This is another example that Robert Briffault wrote a law about.
It's not just for us humans, the animal world works the same.
For you intrested, stickman has a good post about it. (google briffault's law stickman).
But as said, Pussy is a commodity, some are better at marketing it than others, and some are better at shopping for it.
And unlike many believes, not he who holds the money makes the rules, but she who decides that she do accept his offer to her.
You can be a multi-billionare and still be turned down by a (ny) woman.
Happy Hunting, Ken Apples.
As I said that's a strawdog.
I don't know anybody who sends "hundreds of dollars every month" and only goes once a year, LOL.
You must hang with some stupid shit!Not necessarily stupid. My cam girl friend, her most consistent tipper spends $2000 -$3000 on her every month and has been doing it for over a year, without ever meeting her. He's smart, polite, successful, but she's a fantasy to him and he gets a thrill from tipping her. If 2 or 3 big tippers are there, they compete to see who can tip the most.
Different strokes.
ForceSteeler
07-22-15, 18:06
As I said that's a strawdog.
I don't know anybody who sends "hundreds of dollars every month" and only goes once a year, LOL.
You must hang with some stupid shit!You won't believe how many guys are pussy whipped! a lot of WU suckers don't talk about it on how much money they send, but the chicas talk. I know one of my good friends that only goes to DR maybe 2 time a year and he meet a girl and he started sending money about ($150-$300) a month, but he never told me about because he know I will put him on blast, but some guys got Big Egos, and when you try to school them, they think your jealous, or hating! But these chicas behind your back laugh and its like a badge of honor to have a WU Gringo. They love to brag to there friends about how many gringos they have sending them money and they laugh because in a 3rd world country like Sosua, What kind of man pays a girl every month to be there girlfriend? Anybody with a little street smarts will know that if a girl truly likes you and wants to be your girlfriend, you don't have to send her anything, especially every month like that, just like friendship, anybody will be your friend when they can get something from you, but you know who your real friends are when your broke and down on your luck. Just like these chicas, you will really know how they feel about you when they cannot get something from you!.
Yeah but if you want to be a sugar daddy and give women support, You don't have to do it on a 3rd world girl, There are plenty of broke hungry girls in the USA, that will suck and fuck for the latest tennis shoes, and Gucci Bag just so they can brag to there Friends on facebook and instagram.If they are broke and hungry, you would think they would spend it on food, wouldn't you?
I have nothing against being a sugar daddy... Its stupid and pointless.... So I take it you would not object to being a sugar daddy, then.
Still most of these chicas cheat anyways. Trust me I fucked to many chicas that had my cock in 1 hand and text there sponser on the other hand, Telling them they miss them and they love them. They have obviously identified your kink.
If you live in DR or your in DR damn near every month then cool I can understand being a sugar daddy Not sure that I get the logic here. Surely if you live in the DR you could spend your money on a struggling college student and you get the pussy every day and anytime of theweek.
but if you only there 1-3 Times a Year, don't be a WU Suckers, you can trick that money on a local struggling college student, and you get the pussy.
Everyday and anytime of the week. Could not have put it better myself. Could you give some examples of how you do this in the US? Is there any particular location where this works, state, city, ethnicity of female students, subjects of major, type of college or university that would give us some hints on how to avoid unnecessary expense traveling to the DR? Would one do better with overseas students or with local-born scholars? Have you had any luck with female soccer players?
OldSchool318
07-22-15, 22:25
I know this may not be the right forum for this, but I would love to know the sugar daddy tactics within the USA.
In the DR I am happy to do something nice for these girls if I have a friendship with them. Sometimes a nice gesture without reason goes a long way.
Here in USA I have never taken the "hey I have a nice gift card to forever 21 if you are ready to suck the meat off the bone."
Approach.
Maybe I should.
Please detail how you introduce this concept as I am interested for sure.
Ath Trainer
07-23-15, 03:26
I'll be heading to Sosua next week. First time jn 2 years. I was wondering where's the best place, right now, to find girls during the day? Where's a good spot on the beach, if any? Thanks. Will report on my trip.
Phreeman69
07-23-15, 03:34
I wanted an all night session for my last night in town, so I arranged to have my best GFE of the week over. I told her early in the evening that I would give her 3000 pesos in the morning. From evening to morning we alternated from bed to dinner to walking on the beach to drinking. It was great.
At one point she mentioned that she needed 5000 pesos for rent. I said no, 3000 is more than reasonable. I should have paid more attention then. I should have asked her then if she would be happy with 3000, or if it would be better to leave now with 1500 or 2000 for the evening, as opposed to TLN--and forced her to really make a choice and agree.
Most importantly, I told her I was flying out in the morning. I had this romantic notion that she would appreciate that I picked her for my last session. Wrong.
Instead, in the morning she says she really needs the rent money. She won't take my 3000, she's going to tear it up, etc. It wasn't too ugly, and I didn't get bent out of shape, but I gave her another 1000 and she split. It's nice to be somewhere that twenty bucks can make a problem go away. Still, it took the after-glow off our time together.
I'm sure if she thought I would still be around and calling for another session she wouldn't have gotten pushy with me. Better not to tell them when you're leaving.
(FYI. Yolande, Haitian spinner, 31 years old but looks great. Recommended, but obviously be smart.).
Phreeman69
07-23-15, 04:00
I'll be heading to Sosua next week. First time jn 2 years. I was wondering where's the best place, right now, to find girls during the day? Where's a good spot on the beach, if any? Thanks. Will report on my trip.Good question. I just got back from a short week there. There are girls out during the day on the strip, I. E. The corner of Pedro Clisante and Dr. Rosen. There are also a few walking around, including on the beach, and also the massage places.
Unfortunately these are all pretty much full time working girls. I like to session in the afternoon, and I felt good about one I picked up, but generally I did not like the selection and it was not a fun, relaxing hunt.
It's too bad there is not a spot people gather during the day, perhaps a rotating beach bar party with two-for-one beers when the guy treats a lady. I don't know if this would appeal to hobbyists, but I think non-pro girls would come out for free drinks during the day if it were low pressure and not too sleazy. Mr. Enternational commented below that there is not an endless supply of fresh DR talent, but I think there really are a lot of 18 to 25 year-old with nothing to do, a casual attitude toward sex with strangers, and an interest in making a 1000 pesos or two.
I understand that the authorities don't want anything too noisy in public. For example, I don't think the hotels are allowed to have unescorted girls hanging out at their pools anymore. If the event was organized online and popped up at different beach bars on different days (not Sundays), maybe that wouldn't draw too much scorn. What do you think?
Advantageous
07-23-15, 05:32
I smoke a little weed every now and then. In the DR the vast majority of chica I have dealt with did not do any drugs. Most think weed is like cocaine. I do tend to pick chicas who are sweet and somewhat innocent. I have run into a few who used but they have been rare. I do not drink but do enjoy a nice buzz every now and then. I was surprised how few of the ladies were like minded.I just think it depends on the chica's comfort level. I smoke in the DR on occasion, and I'd say approximately 1 in every 4 chicas I had were down with smoking after they saw / heard that I was. It does help that I use a vape pen the grand majority of the time I'm in the Su, and a lot of girls are intrigued that there's really strong concentrated herb in such a gentle package. I don't know anything about blow, as the "White Horse" is a drug typically attributed to the lower half of my home state. If all pot tasted / smelled / hit like Dominican bud, I'd probably be clean and sober too -- I use it for anxiety and trouble sleeping, and that DR shit gave me a headache that kept me up for a couple of hours the two times I've tried it.
Not necessarily stupid. My cam girl friend, her most consistent tipper spends $2000 -$3000 on her every month and has been doing it for over a year, without ever meeting her. He's smart, polite, successful, but she's a fantasy to him and he gets a thrill from tipping her. If 2 or 3 big tippers are there, they compete to see who can tip the most.
Different strokes.Different strokes is right. I know a good looking businessman who sends good money down there just to have her send back rather lame pictures of her posing every which way. He has never met her except on social media. I introduced him to DR.
Since I know him well, I've been asking him why he would send money for a few routine pics, when the world is full of free porn, cheap chicas anything you could ever want.
It's fantasy that he has projected on to this particular girl, and he likes the control, and he's willing to spend his money on the good feelings. She's pretty, but wouldn't turn me on, but to him maybe she's Beyonc and Shakira all rolled up into one. He doesn't WANT other forms of stimulation, he wants to tell HER what to do and have her happy to do it for him. (he will be meeting her soon when we both are down there, and I suspect that might be the end of it).
I cast my mind back when I was new to Sosua. The girl of my dreams appeared the first night (how good is that!) and I was happy to go down there often and send money in between visits. She still measures up, but I don't give her money unless I'm fucking her, or getting her ready, and it's more like a propina at the end as I say goodbye.
It's all about getting your OWN value for your OWN money. You couldn't pay ME to fuck some of the P4 P women posted on here. I don't need to go there to fuck ugly fat chicks.
My point is that no matter what someone spends their own money on, they are getting something of equal value to them that THEY want, in the flesh, or even in their own minds, not what YOU want them to have, LOL. If you insist on calling them suckers, they will hide their true feelings from you, just like the other poster's "good friend" did, and all we'll have are pissing matches. Lol.
I's important to remember that!
You won't believe how many guys are pussy whipped! a lot of WU suckers don't talk about it on how much money they send, but the chicas talk. I know one of my good friends that only goes to DR maybe 2 time a year and he meet a girl and he started sending money about ($150-$300) a month, but he never told me about because he know I will put him on blast, but some guys got Big Egos, and when you try to school them, they think your jealous, or hating! But these chicas behind your back laugh and its like a badge of honor to have a WU Gringo. They love to brag to there friends about how many gringos they have sending them money and they laugh because in a 3rd world country like Sosua, What kind of man pays a girl every month to be there girlfriend? Anybody with a little street smarts will know that if a girl truly likes you and wants to be your girlfriend, you don't have to send her anything, especially every month like that, just like friendship, anybody will be your friend when they can get something from you, but you know who your real friends are when your broke and down on your luck. Just like these chicas, you will really know how they feel about you when they cannot get something from you!.You know "who your real friends are" only if they are honest with you.
Like your "good friend" above, he never told you anything about what he was doing. LOL.
It's his money, what's your problem?
There's only one thing worse than a Captain Save a Hoe, and that's a "Captain Save a Monger", and this board is full of 'em, LOL.
I'll be heading to Sosua next week. First time jn 2 years. I was wondering where's the best place, right now, to find girls during the day? Where's a good spot on the beach, if any? Thanks. Will report on my trip.The area right around Rumbas is where most of the action is, day or night.
ForceSteeler
07-23-15, 14:26
You know "who your real friends are" only if they are honest with you.
It's his money, what's your problem?
There's only one thing worse than a Captain Save a Hoe, and that's a "Captain Save a Monger", and this board is full of 'em, LOL.I'm tired of guys saying that its his money? Yeah its his money but he is fucking up the game and spoiling these chicas! There is a reason why when you go to Sousa, Most of these girls now are asking for $3,000-$4,000 pesos and you can hardly get GFE. Why do you think american women are so spoiled and entitled? Its the captain save a hoe thirsty men, most American males are pussy whipped and grow up in single mother households so they are taught to put women on a pedestal. They think if they do all this extra shit like overpaying girls and sending money, that they are going to get browie points with the chicas and all it does is make these chicas more wiser and feel like I don't have to work hard. I'm not a hater and everybody can do what they want with there money, but if you look back, If you went to Sosua in 2005, It was less tourist and the chicas were making way less money, But the service was amazing and way better, GFE. You damn had to kick a chica out because she did not want to leave. Fast forward to 2015. Chicas are making way more money and have tons of WU Sponsers, and now you can forget GFE, and most of these chicas don't even put there full effort like they use too. Giving these chicas the world has not made any difference, Just more hardcore and lazy. No different from a chick collecting welfare and section 8 she feels entitled and she does not have to work hard, because she got Uncle Sam / Tax Payer.
I wanted an all night session for my last night in town, so I arranged to have my best GFE of the week over. I told her early in the evening that I would give her 3000 pesos in the morning. From evening to morning we alternated from bed to dinner to walking on the beach to drinking. It was great.
At one point she mentioned that she needed 5000 pesos for rent. I said no, 3000 is more than reasonable. I should have paid more attention then. I should have asked her then if she would be happy with 3000, or if it would be better to leave now with 1500 or 2000 for the evening, as opposed to TLN--and forced her to really make a choice and agree.
Most importantly, I told her I was flying out in the morning. I had this romantic notion that she would appreciate that I picked her for my last session. Wrong.
Instead, in the morning she says she really needs the rent money. She won't take my 3000, she's going to tear it up, etc. It wasn't too ugly, and I didn't get bent out of shape, but I gave her another 1000 and she split. It's nice to be somewhere that twenty bucks can make a problem go away. Still, it took the after-glow off our time together.
I'm sure if she thought I would still be around and calling for another session she wouldn't have gotten pushy with me. Better not to tell them when you're leaving.
(FYI. Yolande, Haitian spinner, 31 years old but looks great. Recommended, but obviously be smart.).Great post Pman, and honest.
It's a typical problem for mongers in Sosua, and you handled it well.
Know when to fold 'em!
What kind of man pays a girl every month to be there girlfriend? Anybody with a little street smarts will know that if a girl truly likes you and wants to be your girlfriend, you don't have to send her anything, especially every month like that, just like friendship, anybody will be your friend when they can get something from you, but you know who your real friends are when your broke and down on your luck. Just like these chicas, you will really know how they feel about you when they cannot get something from you!.If you are 50 and she is 20, it is nave to think that she is having a sexual relationship with you just out of feelings of spontaneous love, friendship, and sexual attraction. There is ALWAYS some kind of quid pro quo. However it is reasonable to think that if men are sending money to women, then the men are getting something they want too. If you take the time to read the boards for some of the other countries on International Sex Guide most of it is really depressing, and you will see how rare it is for men to have something that more or less approximates to an ongoing friendship or relationship with a woman in another country, as opposed to just paying a girl in a brothel for suck and fuck.
You say that men cannot find relationships in Sosua, but if you go to one of the local schools for example on an open day, you will see evidence of numerous mixed families in the area that seem to be very happy and loving families with small children who are well cared for.
Just last week I heard some terrible sad news about an absolutely beautiful Haitian girl aged 23. A couple of years ago she married a Dutchman in Puerto Plata. I was at the wedding. A few months later she went to live in the Netherlands where she had a child who is now two years old. Last Friday she died from septicaemia in childbirth in Holland, and the new baby died too. The funeral is on Saturday. Her family is distraught, her husband is devastated and is left alone with a motherless two-year-old child that his own mother is now caring for.
You see relationships can and do happen, and they do mean a lot to the participants.
You may not think this is a good idea, and maybe it is not, and they don't always have a happy ending, but you cannot babysit people and tell them what they can and can't do. They have to decide for themselves.
I'll be heading to Sosua next week. First time jn 2 years. I was wondering where's the best place, right now, to find girls during the day? Where's a good spot on the beach, if any? Thanks. Will report on my trip.There is no particular place.
There are a lot more girls out at night, and they are probably going to be more dressed up and attractive looking and on the hunt. You would do better to talk to girls at night and arrange to meet them in the daytime the next day. They might not want to do that, but in the end they will agree if you stick to your guns.
Of course there are lots of ordinary looking girls around working in every day jobs in stores and offices and restaurants and bars, and they might be available for dates, although it could be quite a bit of work figuring out if they are, but when they come out again at night all dressed up and looking all glamorous and completely different, then it is much more obvious that they are available to you.
However a lot of the most attractive girls who come out at night will be sleeping late in the daytime, and then doing laundry and going to the salon during the afternoon, taking care of children, and so on, so not so easy to make dates with at those times.
You won't believe how many guys are pussy whipped! a lot of WU suckers don't talk about it on how much money they send, but the chicas talk. I know one of my good friends that only goes to DR maybe 2 time a year and he meet a girl and he started sending money about ($150-$300) a month, but he never told me about because he know I will put him on blast, but some guys got Big Egos, and when you try to school them, they think your jealous, or hating! !Well your friend did not tell you about this, because he knows about your agenda and knows that you like to tell other people what to do and ridicule them if you do not agree with them, and act like they are pupils and you are the schoolmaster.
However he is an adult and he is having a one-on-one relationship with an adult woman. Let him make his own mistakes. That way he will learn from experience and the learning will mean something to him, and if it doesn't work out for him, he will probably try something different in the future.
Parkinsons
07-23-15, 20:32
WU novio talk again. Guys, let me remind everyone that this is a thread about mongering in Sosua. Can we get back to writing about Brazilian women? Thanks.
WU novio talk again. Guys, let me remind everyone that this is a thread about mongering in Sosua. Can we get back to writing about Brazilian women? Thanks.So what's stopping you, Einstein?
Cat got your tongue?
Lol
I'm tired of guys saying that its his money? Yeah its his money but he is fucking up the game and spoiling these chicas! There is a reason why when you go to Sousa, Most of these girls now are asking for $3,000-$4,000 pesos and you can hardly get GFE. Why do you think american women are so spoiled and entitled? Its the captain save a hoe thirsty men, most American males are pussy whipped and grow up in single mother households so they are taught to put women on a pedestal. They think if they do all this extra shit like overpaying girls and sending money, that they are going to get browie points with the chicas and all it does is make these chicas more wiser and feel like I don't have to work hard. I'm not a hater and everybody can do what they want with there money, but if you look back, If you went to Sosua in 2005, It was less tourist and the chicas were making way less money, But the service was amazing and way better, GFE. You damn had to kick a chica out because she did not want to leave. Fast forward to 2015. Chicas are making way more money and have tons of WU Sponsers, and now you can forget GFE, and most of these chicas don't even put there full effort like they use too. Giving these chicas the world has not made any difference, Just more hardcore and lazy. No different from a chick collecting welfare and section 8 she feels entitled and she does not have to work hard, because she got Uncle Sam / Tax Payer.All the crap you talk about happens everywhere, but that's why Sosua remains a popular destination.
Get down there, kick back, relax with a Presidente, maybe a Cohiba, some batchata, a couple of chicas, and all that goes away for a while.
(If it doesn't, why waste your money? Just stay home).
Anyone recognize this girl? I thought I saw her on my last trip to Sosua. She was mentioned on this thread some years ago but I just can't remember what year.
ForceSteeler
07-24-15, 01:51
but that's why Sosua remains a popular destination..I don't think so, last time I was there (January 2015 and in June 2015) A lot of the chicas and hotel owners told me business is extremely slow and when I stayed in New Gardens there were hardly any Gringos in town like how it use too see all the time.
Even hardcore Sosua Guys, That only goes to sosua and no where else, are branching out and visiting places like Costa Rica, Columbia and Argentina. I Guess with Passion Closed and Latino Discos closing, it kinda scared off some of the regular gringos. Classicos had a lot of chicas every night, but mostly trash, doesn't look like it attractive the stunnas from Santo Domingo and Santiago like how it use too back in the days. Because a lot of nights I would go home by myself. Alot of people will ask me why am I so picky, I have a right to be picky because its no free. If it was free, then you have a point. If I have to pay I have every right to be judgmental, plus the fact that most of these chicas are horrible in bed and are just trying to get you to leche so they can go back on the strip to fuck another gringo.
She's pretty. Wish I knew her.
Anyone recognize this girl? I thought I saw her on my last trip to Sosua. She was mentioned on this thread some years ago but I just can't remember what year..
Tempoecorto
07-24-15, 03:55
I was wondering where's the best place, right now, to find girls during the day? Frannie suggested the right strategy. The women. Those that you may want. Are all sleeping or doing chores in the morning and are not likely to be available prior to early afternoon. Pick up phone numbers the night before (better still whatsapp so you can leave message) and connect with them about midday.
All the crap you talk about happens everywhere, but that's why Sosua remains a popular destination.
Get down there, kick back, relax with a Presidente, maybe a Cohiba, some batchata, a couple of chicas, and all that goes away for a while.
(If it doesn't, why waste your money? Just stay home).
First never worry about what another man does. When you worry about how much he pays and blame him for you not getting GFE your lying to yourself. Being a prostitute is a tough job most times girls want to have fun and make money. As you get older, a lot of times you can walk in to a club and see people who are fun and have cool personalities and women tend to gravitate to those type of people and trust me those men are never thinking of you and how much money you spend on a women. They are confident in themselves and if you travel all that way isn't that what is all about. Who cares what another man does with his money be confident in you and always be honest with yourself. Do you really think another man is the reason your not getting GFE.
They are due back Friday. I am very curious how they did. Both guys have some quirks so I am sure they will have some stories. This is their first time in Sosua without me. I hope blind squirrel rules apply. Even an idiot can have a great time in Sosua. One of my guys will put this to the test.
I'm tired of guys saying that its his money? Yeah its his money but he is fucking up the game and spoiling these chicas! There is a reason why when you go to Sousa, Most of these girls now are asking for $3,000-$4,000 pesos and you can hardly get GFE. Why do you think american women are so spoiled and entitled? Its the captain save a hoe thirsty men, most American males are pussy whipped and grow up in single mother households so they are taught to put women on a pedestal. They think if they do all this extra shit like overpaying girls and sending money, that they are going to get browie points with the chicas and all it does is make these chicas more wiser and feel like I don't have to work hard. I'm not a hater and everybody can do what they want with there money, but if you look back, If you went to Sosua in 2005, It was less tourist and the chicas were making way less money, But the service was amazing and way better, GFE. You damn had to kick a chica out because she did not want to leave. Fast forward to 2015. Chicas are making way more money and have tons of WU Sponsers, and now you can forget GFE, and most of these chicas don't even put there full effort like they use too. Giving these chicas the world has not made any difference, Just more hardcore and lazy. No different from a chick collecting welfare and section 8 she feels entitled and she does not have to work hard, because she got Uncle Sam / Tax Payer.Sorry for the negativity, but what a load of crap.
When I first started driving, I was paying $0.49 for a gallon of gas. Now I'm lucky to get it for $2.49 and forget about finding 105 octane. All because everyone is petroleum whipped and keeps paying too much. And don't get me started on motel rooms. Remember $16.95 for Motel 6?
The world changes, people change and prices always go up. The chicas that were working Sosua 10 years ago have moved on. They didn't all have cell phones, many of them probably didn't have electricity. The girls from 2005 didn't grow up surrounded by a steady flow of mongers and had no idea about relative pricing. They only knew how much it cost them to survive. Any amount above that was special and they felt lucky to get it and were more appreciative.
The Sosua chicas today have the world at their fingertips through the Internet. They know that just about anywhere else in the world, the price for what they offer is at least double. So they are a lot less willing to give you GFE when you think they should only get paid at 2005 rates. Go into a decent restaurant on a regular basis and always tip only 5%. Do you think you're going to get top shelf service?
Instead of whining about everyone else ruining it for you, step up your game. Start giving the chicas BFE and you're a lot more likely to get GFE.
Chief Justice
07-24-15, 07:06
Anyone recognize this girl? I thought I saw her on my last trip to Sosua. She was mentioned on this thread some years ago but I just can't remember what year.I know this old hag. She's long in the tooth. I heard when the clothes come off, its not a good luck:
https://www.facebook.com/yasmin.munoz.902/media_set?set=a.139200739464820.40841.100001246830609&type=3
Naked Gunz
07-24-15, 07:35
They are confident in themselves and if you travel all that way isn't that what is all about. Who cares what another man does with his money be confident in you and always be honest with yourself. Do you really think another man is the reason your not getting GFE.Wow, this is one of the best posts I have seen on this web site. Sure I love getting (and giving) info to brother mongers about where to go, and how to get there-but it's who you are at the end of the day that determines the outcome. Nobody is there to hold your hand to tell you how to handle women. She needs money, you need pussy. Discuss what is satisfactory to both parties and have a good time while in the game.
Naked Gunz
07-24-15, 07:46
If you went to Sosua in 2005, It was less tourist and the chicas were making way less moneyMy man, you sound like the bitches your complaining about. It's 2015. It's not 2005 anymore. The new generation of puta which saw they're moms struggle in 2005 are not accepting their moms prices fo sho! Hell, they paying $15/ HR for flipping burgers now. Learn to have fun, you will live longer.
OldSchool318
07-24-15, 11:11
I am sometimes amazed at this board and I love it so much.
This place is a wonderland for your Penis. My experiences have been to smile, say Hello, kindly negotiate, and then have fun.
For me most of the girls are into GFE and I have found some amazing lookers during the day.
Here is what I found works for daytime. Go near casino and go down road with art installations. I found a bunch of university types. Take them then, or use whatsapp. 1500 2 HR sessions. Repeats whenever I wanted. Afternoon was my hunting ground.
As for giving the girls gifts etc, if you like them then do it. If not don't. I enjoy being generous but only because the girl has earned it and I want to. As soon as I feel like someone is taking advantage that shit ends.
First never worry about what another man does. When you worry about how much he pays and blame him for you not getting GFE your lying to yourself. Being a prostitute is a tough job most times girls want to have fun and make money. As you get older, a lot of times you can walk in to a club and see people who are fun and have cool personalities and women tend to gravitate to those type of people and trust me those men are never thinking of you and how much money you spend on a women. They are confident in themselves and if you travel all that way isn't that what is all about. Who cares what another man does with his money be confident in you and always be honest with yourself. Do you really think another man is the reason your not getting GFE.Couldn't have said it better! Most here wouldn't spend the money on the skinny-assed chicas I love, they wouldn't see the point.
A good thing too, otherwise we'd all be lined up outside Classicos for 10 kilometers waiting for the same chica :)
I know this old hag. She's long in the tooth. I heard when the clothes come off, its not a good luck:
https://www.facebook.com/yasmin.munoz.902/media_set?set=a.139200739464820.40841.100001246830609&type=3Thanks Chief! Had to look hard to see your post amidst all this drama on the board. Clicked on the link but nothing comes out.
Parkinsons
07-24-15, 16:43
Thanks Chief! Had to look hard to see your post amidst all this drama on the board. Clicked on the link but nothing comes out.Stop the url at Yasmin. Munoz. 902 delete the rest. You'll find her.
Looks like you need to friend her to see more though.
Manizales911
07-24-15, 19:26
I'll be heading to Sosua next week. First time jn 2 years. I was wondering where's the best place, right now, to find girls during the day? Where's a good spot on the beach, if any? Thanks. Will report on my trip.If you speak some spanish and aren't afraid to approach girls just go to playa Sosua pull up a chair, have a few beers (and some patience) at one of the many places and watch the parade, be careful to not insult any girls walking with family. Don't sit on the beach sit up close to the shops. Plenty to be had at the beach.
Mr Enternational
07-24-15, 23:51
The Sosua chicas today have the world at their fingertips through the Internet. They know that just about anywhere else in the world, the price for what they offer is at least double. So they are a lot less willing to give you GFE when you think they should only get paid at 2005 rates.Surely you jest. When have you ever seen a Dominican (nevermind Sosua puta) on the internet researching ANYTHING? They all think the internet is only for chatting. Chat to any Dominicana and take too long to answer and the response you will get is "Who else are you chatting with?" As if there were not 1 million other things to do while on the internet. And they definitely are not researching hooker prices around the world.
Case in point: I was in a pickup club in Thailand the night before last and spotted a Colombian chica. Definitely not my first time seeing or talking to one in the discos here. I went over to talk to her. Turns out she was from Medellin. I asked her about her prices. Do you know this chick told me $86 for 1 hour? (To put this in perspective, I gave the girl that I took home $28 for the entire night.) I laughed and told her that she knew good and well that I could get 100 just like her in Medellin for $12. After that, she turned up her nose and gave me the cold shoulder. What would even make her think she could get porterhouse steak prices in a discount meat warehouse? Was she researching on the internet what hookers are getting in England and decided that is how much she should be getting in Thailand? I seriously doubt it. More likely she said to herself let me see if I can find any suckers.
I will say it. They are hookers and you give them too much credit. Now I am not saying they are not people and are worth any less than any other person on the planet. What I am saying is that they are not among the most brightest crayons in the box. When is the last time that you ran into a scholarly hooker? So this crap about hookers doing due diligence should be flushed down the toilet.
It is the mongers who are driving the prices. Just read some of the posts. Guys constantly compare to back home. Well it would cost me x back home, so anything under x is a great price for me. Then if you try to tell them that it shouldn't cost that much on the local market they get very defensive and pull out the "Don't try to tell me how to spend my money" cliche. And if you think that word does not spread like wildfire then you sir are dead wrong.
Once me and my dad took some chicks from the club in Thailand. These chicks were friends. Now I don't know what got into me that time, but the next morning I decided to give my girl $42, which was 50% more than the normal $28. When the girls left and me and my dad joined back up he asked me how much I gave my girl. I said $42. He said now why in the hell would you do that? She called and told her friend that she got $42 from you, so her friend wanted $42 from me. He stuck to his guns and only gave her the normal $28 though.
A lot of guys are thinking it is only a $14 difference. There is a reason that businesses do certain calculations not on price differences, but instead on percentage differences. No. You did not pay $20 to make that problem go away. You in fact paid 33% more to make it go away - which is highway robbery. If the bank notified you tomorrow that your mortgage or car note would immediately increase by 33% then you would have a shit fit. But when a chica tells you the price of the pussy you just had has instantly increased 66%, but you negotiate that down to 33% then it is all good?
Like Chaka Khan said, once you get started it is hard to stop. Think if your boss gave you a 50% increase on your next paycheck. Will you look at it as a one-off thing or will you get the big head and begin to think yeah I deserve more than the paychecks I was getting before and from then on refuse to accept less? Well some of these chicas are resorting to trickery, threats, and extortion because they "deserve" the new paychecks that a couple of one-off mongers bestowed upon them and not the old ones like they originally negotiated for with the present monger just 3 hours ago. And the present mongers are giving in.
My last bone to pick is since when does GFE correlate with the price you pay? You are just as likely to get GFE paying $5 as you are paying $500. Hell the $5 chica will probably put something on you to make sure you want to give her a little extra. While the $500 chica will be trying to do a rush job so she can hurry up and get out of there with your money before you change your mind.
Grandnash84
07-25-15, 00:09
Case in point: I was in a pickup club in Thailand the night before last and spotted a Colombian chica. Definitely not my first time seeing or talking to one in the discos here.
.Wow is there a lot of colombians in thailand working? Besides colombian, did you see any other races there?
My last bone to pick is since when does GFE correlate with the price you pay? You are just as likely to get GFE paying $5 as you are paying $500. Hell the $5 chica will probably put something on you to make sure you want to give her a little extra. While the $500 chica will be trying to do a rush job so she can hurry up and get out of there with your money before you change your mind.So newbies, listen carefully. This is advice from a guy who claims to get it for free from real girl friends all over the world, DR, Thailand, Columbia, Brazil, St Tropaz, you name it. LOL. (These also happen to be the world's brothels)
We poor mongers who have to pay, should listen carefully. Apparently in some alternate universe for 5 bucks you can get better than a $500.00 hooker.
Ah, if we could only be Mr E.!!
How fortunate we are for him to take a time out from his normal relationships to help us with our P4P.
LOL.
Mr Enternational
07-25-15, 02:45
So newbies, listen carefully. This is advice from a guy who claims to get it free from real girl friends all over the world, DR, Thailand, Columbia, Brazil, St Tropaz, you name it. LOL. (These also happen to be the world's brothels)Don't hate on me because you are scared of pussy that you do not have to pay. (It's ColOmbia and St. TropEz (never been there but I did study 5 hours away in Toulouse) by the way.).
Everywhere on earth there are hookers as well as women who are not hookers. In some places it is more "in your face" than in others. Besides that nothing is different between what you call the world's brothels and main street whatever country.
A couple of weeks ago my main girl home in Atlanta (who is Indian and has been in the States for 4 years) was saying when she goes back to visit India she is going to make a side trip to Thailand to do some shopping. She asked prostitution is very big there huh? I said baby prostitution is big everywhere. You just have to know where to look. Then I did something most of you are scared to do (hell, half of you are scared to tell a hooker that you are staying in Sosua). I pulled out my cell phone and went to backpage Atlanta to show her just how many women from all different walks of life and all different parts of the city were selling pussy. There were chicks from $50 to $700. Then I switched to India to show her how many women there.
So newbies listen carefully while Uncle Oakie teaches you to be a Western Union sucker. Uhhh I mean novio. Wait a minute. Or was this not the guy who sent the girl all of the money so she could come see him in Canada, but she ended up using said money to go elsewhere? Can't get any smarter than to send your hard earned money to some hooker that has another guy's dick in her mouth. Meanwhile you have kids or relatives who are struggling with their university tuition or rent or whatever. Before you send money to a hooker that only cares about you as far as your money will allow her, be sure that the 1000 relatives and real friends you have are in need of nothing.
So newbies listen carefully while Uncle Oakie teaches you to be a Western Union sucker. Uhhh I mean novio. Can't get any smarter than to send your hard earned money to some hooker that has another guy's dick in her mouth. Meanwhile you have kids or relatives who are struggling with their university tuition or rent or whatever. Before you send money to a hooker that only cares about you as far as your money will allow her, be sure that the 1000 relatives and real friends you have are in need of nothing.By my count you are in some 5 continents, getting your pussy for free.
I can only assume you've taken care of all your relatives and friends before you spend those big bucks on "free" pussy in those brothel towns in 5 continents.
That don't come cheap.
Sosua, Colombia, Rio, and Bangkok, and you're supposed to get pussy for free, really? And you argue with us over prices for pussy? How come you know the prices better that anyone here? LOL.
But we believe you. Honestly.
Wish we had your "intel", "connections" and smarts!
(On the other hand you demonstrably spend far more on your pussy "hunting" in a month, with all that world travel and hotels, than I would in two years, LOL).
Me. I actually spend far less for Sosua pussy than it costs me to take a real girlfriend out to dinner and a movie, once a month. I posted the actual budget here, years ago!
Mr Enternational
07-25-15, 03:20
Sosua, Colombia, Rio, and Bangkok, and you're supposed to get pussy for free, really? And you argue with us over prices for pussy? How come you know the prices better that anyone here? LOLHow do I know the prices better than anyone here? I guess your reading comprehension is not as strong as your propensity to be a Western Union novio. I have always admitted that I monger as well as have normal chicks. (MF the same as I have a car, and a motorcycle, and a pair of rollerblades, and a bus pass - since when must a person be forced to partake in only one form of transportation? The same as he shouldn't be relegated to take to only one form of getting pussy.)
As a matter of fact, 2 of my posts down I gave account to that. Show me any post of mine where I have stated otherwise. You must have missed the whole thing while trying to multitask on the WU website.
(On the other hand you demonstrably spend far more on your pussy "hunting" in a month, with all that world travel and hotels, than I would in two years, LOL).And when did I ever say that I was out spending money to hunt for pussy? Maybe I am out for other endeavors and being able to hunt for pussy is just the fall out or by-product of that. Don't get it twisted. Just because a person writes on a monger board that they fucked some chicks in a particular destination, does not mean their sole purpose for being in that destination was to hunt for pussy. (Unlike you who has to take vacation in a third world country just to be able to smell pussy.)
I went scuba diving in Palau and just so happened to end up fucking some chick that worked at the national museum that I met while touring the place. But by your logic I went all the way to Palau to look for chicks to fuck.
How do I know the prices better than anyone here? I guess your reading comprehension is not as strong as your propensity to be a Western Union novio. I have always admitted that I monger as well as have normal chicks. (MF the same as I have a car, and a motorcycle, and a pair of rollerblades - since when must a person be forced to partake in only one form of transportation? The same as he shouldn't be relegated to take to only one form of getting pussy.)
As a matter of fact, 2 of my posts down I gave account to that. Show me any post of mine where I have stated otherwise. You must have missed the whole thing while trying to multitask on the WU website.And when did I ever say that I was out spending money to hunt for pussy? Maybe I am out for other endeavors and being able to hunt for pussy is just the fall out or by-product of that. Don't get it twisted. Just because a person writes on a monger board that they fucked some chicks in a particular destination, does not mean their sole purpose for being in that destination was to hunt for pussy. I went scuba diving in Palau and just so happened to end up fucking some chick that worked at the national museum that I met while touring the place. But by your logic I went all the way to Palau to look for chicks to fuck.So, how much time and how many posts did you do on the "Palua Scuba Website" LOL.
Do you find it easier to find free pussy in your brothel towns, Rio, Bankok, Sosua, Colombia, or is that just coincidence? Or maybe you like the food there? Lol
Do you ever run into my ex there? ...er the young Morgan Fairchild, yeah, that's the ticket!
From a psychoanalytical approach it would appear that an individual who has close to 5000 posts on a board who in almost all of the posts boasts about getting free pussy simultaneously all over the world is likely to be (a hermaphrodite?) holed up in a basement somewhere living life through an internet connection getting thrills from a mistaken belief that readers believe the stories.
Mr Enternational
07-25-15, 05:23
From a psychoanalytical approach it would appear that an individual who has close to 5000 posts on a board who in almost all of the posts boasts about getting free pussy simultaneously all over the world is likely to be (a hermaphrodite?) holed up in a basement somewhere living life through an internet connection getting thrills from a mistaken belief that readers believe the stories.Maybe so, but then when you account for the fact that I do post actual field reports (unlike you - have you ever posted even 1 or is it sufficient to use those of other posters in your spank bank troll?) and have met many members from this thread as well as others, then whoever comes to such a conclusion from whatever approach, psychoanalytical or otherwise, needs to go back to where they got their degree and ask for refund.
Surely you jest. When have you ever seen a Dominican (nevermind Sosua puta) on the internet researching ANYTHING? They all think the internet is only for chatting. Chat to any Dominicana and take too long to answer and the response you will get is "Who else are you chatting with?" As if there were not 1 million other things to do while on the internet. And they definitely are not researching hooker prices around the world. I can understand why you picked Mr Enternational instead of Mr Einstein.
Imagine a possibility, the possibility that at least 1 chica in Sosua has a friend or relative living in the US. Now imagine that from time to time, they talk to that person. Do you think there is a chance she might learn a few things? Do you think she might be the least bit curious about things? Do you think she might share that knowledge?
While girls are with me, especially if I'm paying them, they aren't using their phone, so I can't say I've seen any of them researching anything.
Case in point: I was in a pickup club in Thailand the night before last and spotted a Colombian chica. Definitely not my first time seeing or talking to one in the discos here. I went over to talk to her. Turns out she was from Medellin. I asked her about her prices. Do you know this chick told me $86 for 1 hour? (To put this in perspective, I gave the girl that I took home $28 for the entire night.) I laughed and told her that she knew good and well that I could get 100 just like her in Medellin for $12. After that, she turned up her nose and gave me the cold shoulder. What would even make her think she could get porterhouse steak prices in a discount meat warehouse? Was she researching on the internet what hookers are getting in England and decided that is how much she should be getting in Thailand? I seriously doubt it. More likely she said to herself let me see if I can find any suckers.Did you ever think, if a Colombian is in Thailand, perhaps she has been other places as well? Perhaps she's been someplace where her services are worth more. Perhaps she figured it was worth a try to get more. She just didn't realize she was talking to a prick who, instead of bartering with her, would ridicule her and treat her like garbage.
I will say it. They are hookers and you give them too much credit. Now I am not saying they are not people and are worth any less than any other person on the planet. What I am saying is that they are not among the most brightest crayons in the box. When is the last time that you ran into a scholarly hooker? So this crap about hookers doing due diligence should be flushed down the toilet.No. You clearly just stated they are worth less than other people. You told her to her face she was worth less than $12.
Believe it or not, just because a woman in a third world country with a poor education system and a very high poverty level, chooses to support herself by prostitution, does not mean she is stupid. Once again you are stating they are less than other people.
I grew up in an all white, little redneck town and I was taught all blacks were stupid criminals. Then I got out into the world and I met some who were stupid and some who were criminals. I also met a lot more who were neither of those things and I learned not to judge or discriminate against groups. Haven't you learned that yet?
It is the mongers who are driving the prices. Just read some of the posts. Guys constantly compare to back home. Well it would cost me x back home, so anything under x is a great price for me. Then if you try to tell them that it shouldn't cost that much on the local market they get very defensive and pull out the "Don't try to tell me how to spend my money" cliche. And if you think that word does not spread like wildfire then you sir are dead wrong.
Once me and my dad took some chicks from the club in Thailand. These chicks were friends. Now I don't know what got into me that time, but the next morning I decided to give my girl $42, which was 50% more than the normal $28. When the girls left and me and my dad joined back up he asked me how much I gave my girl. I said $42. He said now why in the hell would you do that? She called and told her friend that she got $42 from you, so her friend wanted $42 from me. He stuck to his guns and only gave her the normal $28 though...You might want to get someone else to handle your business dealings. If the base price is $28 and you pay $42, that is a 50% increase. However, if base price was $42 and you paid $28, that is a 33% discount.
And here you are complaining about people paying too much and driving up prices, when you're worse than most.
Like Chaka Khan said, once you get started it is hard to stop. Think if your boss gave you a 50% increase on your next paycheck. Will you look at it as a one-off thing or will you get the big head and begin to think yeah I deserve more than the paychecks I was getting before and from then on refuse to accept less? Well some of these chicas are resorting to trickery, threats, and extortion because they "deserve" the new paychecks that a couple of one-off mongers bestowed upon them and not the old ones like they originally negotiated for with the present monger just 3 hours ago. And the present mongers are giving in.Were you under the influence of anything when you wrote this? I ask because you're not making much sense. You're rambling around but ignoring the basic premise, which is that prices for everything have gone up in the last 10 years. Expectations have also gone up. What was a hidden gem is now known worldwide. The chicas have higher expenses than the previous generation, so they expect more money. The chicas have more knowledge of the world around them, so they expect more money. The chicas have bigger dreams, so they expect more money.
Sure there are some who get overpaid and figure it's worth trying to get that again, and there are some who will do whatever they can to get more, but you're acting like they are the Teamsters. Listen up girls, nobody works for less than 3000. If we need to, we'll go on strike. Please. If the one you want won't come down to your price, pick another one and walk past her. It's not like there's a shortage.
My last bone to pick is since when does GFE correlate with the price you pay? You are just as likely to get GFE paying $5 as you are paying $500. Hell the $5 chica will probably put something on you to make sure you want to give her a little extra. While the $500 chica will be trying to do a rush job so she can hurry up and get out of there with your money before you change your mind.Now you're just being ridiculous. I suppose there could be someplace in the world where a girl would be excited to get $5, but I prefer them to be 18 or older, rather than fresh out of kindergarten. While you are somewhat correct that GFE isn't directly tied to cost, what you pay, as compared to what was requested does have an impact. If a girl wants $50 and you belittle her and insult her into taking $10, you're probably not going to get her best effort. On the other hand, if you stop treating them like they are a lower class of person, you might be surprised.
AGarbageMan
07-25-15, 11:43
I am planning a trip to Sosua in August. I am in my 60's and in great shape.
Hotel recommendations with and without Chicas on site close to the action?
Transportation from airport?
Money exchange or not?
Any other do's and don't's?
Maybe so, but then when you account for the fact that I do post actual field reports (unlike you - have you ever posted even 1 or is it sufficient to use those of other posters in your spank bank troll?) and have met many members from this thread as well as others, then whoever comes to such a conclusion from whatever approach, psychoanalytical or otherwise, needs to go back to where they got their degree and ask for refund.I have no doubt that at least in what it concerns DR, you actually are in country as you file your reports. However I was surprised as how sophomoric your last posting describing your comings and goings between AILA, SD Este, the Capital, and Bocachica sounded. Frantic is a word that comes to mind when reading about double bookings, your non-stop pace that conveyed a lack of serenity an experienced voyager is assumed to have. My opinion.
I don't think so, last time I was there (January 2015 and in June 2015) A lot of the chicas and hotel owners told me business is extremely slow and when I stayed in New Gardens there were hardly any Gringos in town like how it use too see all the time.
Even hardcore Sosua Guys, That only goes to sosua and no where else, are branching out and visiting places like Costa Rica, Columbia and Argentina. I Guess with Passion Closed and Latino Discos closing, it kinda scared off some of the regular gringos. Classicos had a lot of chicas every night, but mostly trash, doesn't look like it attractive the stunnas from Santo Domingo and Santiago like how it use too back in the days. Because a lot of nights I would go home by myself. Alot of people will ask me why am I so picky, I have a right to be picky because its no free. If it was free, then you have a point. If I have to pay I have every right to be judgmental, plus the fact that most of these chicas are horrible in bed and are just trying to get you to leche so they can go back on the strip to fuck another gringo.I agree with everything you just said.
I have a regular so it doesn't affect me as much, but I do like to get a free day or two before or after to look around. It is harder to find a good short timer compared to the past, which is why I stick with what I've got.
It's the fun of prospecting on the cheap, though, and there's always the possibility that you'll find a shiny nugget!
A lot of guys have mentioned moving out to other towns and other countries, and we are all interested in that. The NEXT Sosua.
Maybe they'll never be another one, (Cuba?) that has been so close, so good, and so cheap for so long!
Happy hunting.
Tempoecorto
07-25-15, 16:41
I grew up in an all white, little redneck town......
.... On the other hand, if you stop treating them like they are a lower class of person, you might be surprised.Appreciated your introspecting considerations and for opening an window to your own life and thinking process.
Given that background of yours, I am wondering how common it was / is in this country, to go (horing) with your closest elders (same question for the Europeans on this board as they were growing up in the European countries)? Legalized brothels were removed from most EU countries by end of WWII while in the US, it is restricted to only a few states. Based on my reading, I understand that in South America (perhaps also in Mexico), it might still be customary for a father to take his son to an initiation ceremony but I wonder if there are class ramifications to such a comportment. As far as I am concerned, growing up in a third world country like India, where prostitution in all its forms abounds but never in the open, my father would have strangled me even for entertaining the idea in our lower middle class upbringing and I have a feeling that my 16 year old son would look at me with disbelief and perhaps disdain for even floating the idea.
Mr Enternational
07-25-15, 16:43
However I was surprised as how sophomoric your last posting describing your comings and goings between AILA, SD Este, the Capital, and Bocachica sounded. Frantic is a word that comes to mind when reading about double bookings, your non-stop pace that conveyed a lack of serenity an experienced voyager is assumed to have. My opinion.My lifestyle is very frantic. It may appear to be chaos to you but for me it is flexible organization. I never book a hotel because I may not end up staying there anyway. So in the different cities I have my usual hotels where I just show up and get a room if need be. I just make sure I have a car booked. And that being the DR they didn't even have the car that I reserved. I was in Santo Domingo for only 3 days and had a lot of bases to cover. You will never see me around just sitting waiting for what may come next. I already have something coming next and have to make that appointment. This time I was just happy that I didn't have to drive out east or up north.
I never finished my report but in short me and my Santiago girl woke up about 730 then went out and sat on the beach in Juan Dolio for a couple of hours. We went back to the hotel to get her things and I took her back downtown to Caribe Tours. Funny thing. First I took her to Caribe Express in Boca Chica. She was like what are we doing here? I said go in and see if they have a bus going to Santiago. She said uhhh Caribe Express is a store to change money and send money. Oops. My bad.
After I dropped her back at the bus Miss Big Booty sent a message about 12 to say she had gotten off work early and to come get her. Now the night before I was not answering MBB's messages. Then all of a sudden I started getting whatsapp messages from a number I did not know so I thought it was MBB putting one of her friends up to send me messages to see if I answered. So I left them unanswered until the following night after I dropped Miss Big Booty home but before I went to check out the clip joints and GBP. It was a chick saying that I had given her my number at the airport. She sent me pictures and everything but I did not remember. Like I said in the other post I do the same shit everytime but always forget so when the chick contacts me I think it is another chick trying to set me up. Well I finally realized it is the chick who works in immigration. We set up a date for the following morning before I left.
So when I left GBP I went back to Boca Chica to check out Grown Man's spot, El Batey. I was shocked. There was actually some talent there. And there were plenty of Santiago style chicks. There was a group of about 8 girls and while I was playing eenie meenie a big group of guys came in the club and swooped down on them leaving me with my dick in my hand. I also saw the one-legged chick in there. Wow. She was pretty and sexy hopping around the club, but for some reason she had a crazy ass scarf on her head looking like Grace Jones.
I then left to get some rest because I had to get up early to get my nails done and meet up with the chick from immigration. Needless to say, I woke up late and only had time to run by my nail chick's house before I had to hurry off to the airport. Since I left I have been talking with the immigration chick nonstop. Only 1 boyfriend her whole life and she was married to him.
From a psychoanalytical approach it would appear that an individual who has close to 5000 posts on a board who in almost all of the posts boasts about getting free pussy simultaneously all over the world is likely to be (a hermaphrodite?) holed up in a basement somewhere living life through an internet connection getting thrills from a mistaken belief that readers believe the stories.You have to be careful with amateur phsycology here.
Not that long ago, we had one of the best amateurs explode publicly here from all his "inferences" and lamentable "diagnoses" because no one would lie still on his make believe couch long enough to agree with him. LOL.
In spite of our recent disagreements I always found Mr. E to be entertaining, informative and sharing, if a little egocentric, shall we say?
In my opinion, I believe the hubris comes from his real association with others on this board. Once you are not anonymous anymore you have a rep and cred to be lived up to. Then this board becomes like a bar with the regulars who know each other personally, telling their fisherman's story about the big catch.
By being anonymous, I can be brutally honest even with myself, posting about how I did send WU to my dream chica for a while, years ago.
But once anonymity is given up, it's not a fair or totally believable exchange of views, ans some stuff has to be taken with a grain of salt.
The fact that I put it all out here, some in the clique, continue to try to hit me over the head with my honesty.
What they get out of that, I don't know, and if it makes them somehow feel a little better about themselves, that's probably a good thing for them. I really don't care.
Es no mi problema! LOL.
I got another on topic interesting story on WU that happened just yesterday, but am reluctant to post it because of all the negativity. But I can be coaxed, if anyone is interested. lol
Mr Enternational
07-25-15, 17:18
Hotel recommendations with and without Chicas on site close to the action?Stay at Casa Cayena. Just email Wilifred. He will tell you that the price is $60/ day, but at the end of your stay he will say that you owe him $120/ day. Nevermind that though because you don't want to have problems so plead him down to $90/ day and everything will be fine. It's just $30 more and he probably needs it more than you because he is one of the many people starving to death down there.
Naked Gunz
07-25-15, 18:00
Wow is there a lot of colombians in thailand working? Besides colombian, did you see any other races there?I saw more in Singapore than Thailand. But that could be increasing as we speak. There are more and more Africans in PTY, esp Ugandans asking 3 and 4 x the going rate, as if they are some sort of exotic rare form of pussy that fell into LOS. And yes some idiots are paying! What gets me are the Nigerian men coming over and getting young ones to smuggle yaba. I'm surprised Thai mafia are not cracking heads. When the numbers of any of these groups gets excessive, Thai police round them up, put them on tv to show the crackdown, then send them home.
Mr Enternational
07-25-15, 18:15
I can understand why you picked Mr Enternational instead of Mr Einstein.
Imagine a possibility, the possibility that at least 1 chica in Sosua has a friend or relative living in the US. Now imagine that from time to time, they talk to that person. Do you think there is a chance she might learn a few things? Do you think she might be the least bit curious about things? Do you think she might share that knowledge?
While girls are with me, especially if I'm paying them, they aren't using their phone, so I can't say I've seen any of them researching anything.Duhh. You not only showed but also admitted that you know nothing about Dominicans. You are talking about possibilities and imaginations while I am talking about facts.
Did you ever think, if a Colombian is in Thailand, perhaps she has been other places as well? Perhaps she's been someplace where her services are worth more. Perhaps she figured it was worth a try to get more. She just didn't realize she was talking to a prick who, instead of bartering with her, would ridicule her and treat her like garbage.
No. You clearly just stated they are worth less than other people. You told her to her face she was worth less than $12.
Believe it or not, just because a woman in a third world country with a poor education system and a very high poverty level, chooses to support herself by prostitution, does not mean she is stupid. Once again you are stating they are less than other people.It appears that you know even less about hookers. I told her to her face she was worth less than $12? No I told her that the price that she would get in a casa in Medellin, her home town, is $12 and I think the Medellin vets can attest to that. She can charge what she wants, but I'm not going to be fool enough to give her $100 for an hour and would hope other mongers aren't as stupid either.
And sorry dude. There are no Colombian tourists here. The women that are in the club are hooking over in China and Macau and come here to Thailand to reset the clock on their visas. The Colombian guys who come here are no tourists either. http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/647871-thai-immigration-police-foil-colombian-gang-of-thieves/ http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/827961-alleged-gang-of-colombian-burglars-busted/ http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/555881-three-colombians-arrested-in-20-million-baht-bangkok-phuket-and-pattaya-burglary-case/ http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/408550-thai-police-break-gang-of-colombian-thieves/.
You might want to get someone else to handle your business dealings. If the base price is $28 and you pay $42, that is a 50% increase. However, if base price was $42 and you paid $28, that is a 33% discount.
And here you are complaining about people paying too much and driving up prices, when you're worse than most.Read for understanding. I gave an example of a time when I paid too much and the girl got word back to her friend to try to get the same from my dad. Yet many people insist that what one person pays does not affect anyone else. If you can get it from one then why not try to get it from all. Where are you getting a 33% discount from? When I mentioned 33% it was in reference to
Instead, in the morning she says she really needs the rent money. She won't take my 3000, she's going to tear it up, etc. It wasn't too ugly, and I didn't get bent out of shape, but I gave her another 1000 and she split. It's nice to be somewhere that twenty bucks can make a problem go away. Still, it took the after-glow off our time together.After being extorted he paid a 33% increase (the girl was asking for 66% more) to the price that was originally agreed upon in order to make the problem she was making go away.
Were you under the influence of anything when you wrote this? I ask because you're not making much sense. You're rambling around but ignoring the basic premise, which is that prices for everything have gone up in the last 10 years. Expectations have also gone up. What was a hidden gem is now known worldwide. The chicas have higher expenses than the previous generation, so they expect more money. The chicas have more knowledge of the world around them, so they expect more money. The chicas have bigger dreams, so they expect more money.What the fuck are you talking about man? Big dreams? I didn't say anything in reference to how much a chica should get. And I didn't set any premise about prices going up. My gripe is not about chicas who ASK a certain price at the beginning of negotiations. My gripe is with the chicas that try to extort you for more money afterwards as they did my man Phreeman and as they are doing to mongers around Sosua day in and day out these days.
Naked Gunz
07-25-15, 18:16
However I was surprised as how sophomoric your last posting describing your comings and goings between AILA, SD Este, the Capital, and Bocachica sounded.
I can understand why you picked Mr Enternational instead of Mr Einstein. And here you are complaining about people paying too much and driving up prices, when you're worse than most.Now you're just being ridiculous.
From a psychoanalytical approach it would appear that an individual who has close to 5000 posts on a board who in almost all of the posts boasts about getting free pussy simultaneously all over the world is likely to be (a hermaphrodite?) holed up in a basement somewhere living life through an internet connection getting thrills from a mistaken belief that readers believe the stories.It finally happened Mr. E. The villagers are armed with torches, and coming to burn down your castle of over 4800 posts to the ground. The constant bragging from all the exotic locales. Tsk. Tsk. I saw it coming. I'm only surprised it took so long.
Mr Enternational
07-25-15, 18:23
It finally happened Mr. E. The villagers are armed with torches, and coming to burn down your castle of over 4800 posts to the ground. The constant bragging from all the exotic locales. Tsk. Tsk. I saw it coming. I'm only surprised it took so long.LOL. Yeah and these just happen to be the sideline villagers with no trip reports.
It finally happened Mr. E. The villagers are armed with torches, and coming to burn down your castle of over 4800 posts to the ground. The constant bragging from all the exotic locales. Tsk. Tsk. I saw it coming. I'm only surprised it took so long.It's a guy coming out of a brothel, and telling the poor saps waiting outside that he is getting his for free. And telling the poor guy with the box of chocolates for his favorite girl, in a loud voice, to "forget it, she won't taste the chocolate because he has just pumped her mouth full of his cum", for free of course.
That about right? ROFLMAO.
Tempoecorto
07-25-15, 19:31
Then this board becomes like a bar with the regulars who know each other personally, telling their fisherman's story about the big catch.Good point! One can see the defense in action now.
By the way, whatever happened to the forum Psychoanalyst, he was a regular in Sosua, despite always badmouthing it?
Good point! One can see the defense in action now.
By the way, whatever happened to the forum Psychoanalyst, he was a regular in Sosua, despite always badmouthing it?He seemed (seems?) to spend a lot of time down there, but also seemed to live most of his life vicariously through his "buddies" who had all these bad experiences all the time, and how he single handedly straightened them out. Funny part was, he couldn't seem to get any fun out of the place himself Lol. Usual stuff, the hos were all out to rob him, the locals all out to screw him, and so on. His problem was typical, he had a hate on for anybody who knew how to handle the hos and touts and have a good time down there, like it was some reflection on him (actually it was, LOL).
I don't think he ever figured out what the Sosua P4 P was really all about, but he had met the "Captain Save a Monger" crowd here personally so he was part of the monger police circle jerk crowd, but even they finally gave up defending him.
Hopefully he's finally been able to figure Sosua out to his advantage, and will maybe come back as a fan, but I doubt it.
Stay at Casa Cayena. Just email Wilifred. He will tell you that the price is $60/ day, but at the end of your stay he will say that you owe him $120/ day. Nevermind that though because you don't want to have problems so plead him down to $90/ day and everything will be fine. It's just $30 more and he probably needs it more than you because he is one of the many people starving to death down there.I doubt he does that. First of all always print a copy of the e mail. You need to pay in full before going to the room. Breakfast and Dinner is included in a set menu but the food is good especially schnitzel. I never had problem from him asking for more money than we he confirmed in the e mail. I believe the price is $65/ night.
I doubt he does that. First of all always print a copy of the e mail. You need to pay in full before going to the room. Breakfast and Dinner is included in a set menu but the food is good especially schnitzel. I never had problem from him asking for more money than we he confirmed in the e mail. I believe the price is $65/ night.I second that. Stayed there many times and Wifried always extended courtesy and kindness. Food is always good too.
I second that. Stayed there many times and Wifried always extended courtesy and kindness. Food is always good too.I think Mr. E was just joking. It is well known about Wifried hospitality and the fact that Casa Cayena is one of the best spots in Sosua.
It finally happened Mr. E. The villagers are armed with torches, and coming to burn down your castle of over 4800 posts to the ground. The constant bragging from all the exotic locales. Tsk. Tsk. I saw it coming. I'm only surprised it took so long.Yes, he has been exposed. His activities are regarded as notional (have always been). Time for him to change his game, or his name to Mr? Enternotional. "Things come apart so easily when they have been held together with lies. " ― Dorothy Allison, Bastard Out of Carolina.
Good point! One can see the defense in action now.
By the way, whatever happened to the forum Psychoanalyst, he was a regular in Sosua, despite always badmouthing it?Mr E is here and can handle his own, but Sigmund Freud isn't here to defend himself.
I'm looking to take Metro bus from Santo Domingo to Sosua.
Can someone please provide the location of the Metro Bus station closest to the Santo Domingo airport (Las Americas) ?
I also need to know what can I expect to pay for taxi from airport to Metro bus station in Santo Domingo?
Stay at Casa Cayena. Just email Wilifred. He will tell you that the price is $60/ day, but at the end of your stay he will say that you owe him $120/ day. Nevermind that though because you don't want to have problems so plead him down to $90/ day and everything will be fine. It's just $30 more and he probably needs it more than you because he is one of the many people starving to death down there.Pardon me, but what in the world is this? Now you're accusing Wilfried of being a thief?
The Casa Cayena website has the prices posted. When you check in you pay in advance. The price includes breakfast and dinner and the food is good. The rooms are also quite nice. Location, cleanliness and service are all excellent.
While I might understand how you might think this is a funny tie in to the ongoing discussion, messing with someone's livelihood is really not funny at all.
Tempoecorto
07-26-15, 05:51
He seemed (seems?) to spend a lot of time down there.....When I had a corporate job, based out of EU, I could do only EU; based out of Singapore, I could do only ASIA, certainly not all the continents in infinite circles, reading the posts. The organizations rarely allows such latitude and I daresay, if anything thanks to technology, the leash is tighter, when one intends to squeeze out a little personal time.
Duhh. You not only showed but also admitted that you know nothing about Dominicans. You are talking about possibilities and imaginations while I am talking about facts.
It appears that you know even less about hookers. I told her to her face she was worth less than $12? No I told her that the price that she would get in a casa in Medellin, her home town, is $12 and I think the Medellin vets can attest to that. She can charge what she wants, but I'm not going to be fool enough to give her $100 for an hour and would hope other mongers aren't as stupid either.
And sorry dude. There are no Colombian tourists here. The women that are in the club are hooking over in China and Macau and come here to Thailand to reset the clock on their visas. The Colombian guys who come here are no tourists either. http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/647871-thai-immigration-police-foil-colombian-gang-of-thieves/ http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/827961-alleged-gang-of-colombian-burglars-busted/ http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/555881-three-colombians-arrested-in-20-million-baht-bangkok-phuket-and-pattaya-burglary-case/ http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/408550-thai-police-break-gang-of-colombian-thieves/.
Read for understanding. I gave an example of a time when I paid too much and the girl got word back to her friend to try to get the same from my dad. Yet many people insist that what one person pays does not affect anyone else. If you can get it from one then why not try to get it from all. Where are you getting a 33% discount from? When I mentioned 33% it was in reference toAfter being extorted he paid a 33% increase (the girl was asking for 66% more) to the price that was originally agreed upon in order to make the problem she was making go away.
What the fuck are you talking about man? Big dreams? I didn't say anything in reference to how much a chica should get. And I didn't set any premise about prices going up. My gripe is not about chicas who ASK a certain price at the beginning of negotiations. My gripe is with the chicas that try to extort you for more money afterwards as they did my man Phreeman and as they are doing to mongers around Sosua day in and day out these days. There is some evidence there may be a correlation. Are you the wake and bake type? I'm merely trying to understand how you can't seem to keep track of your posts from one day to the next.
Let's start at the beginning with facts. Facts are tricky little bastards, something like the truth. When people are actually telling the truth, or presenting facts, they never have to say "this is a fact" or "this is the truth", because everyone can recognize facts. But when people start throwing the labels around, the little buggers seem to be camera shy.
Are you saying there are no Dominican women in the US? Or are you saying no Dominican women in the US would ever talk to a woman in Sosua? Or is it that no woman in Sosua has any curiosity? Can you staple your fact to one of these, or is there somewhere else that fact belongs?
I'm paraphrasing here, because right now, going back for the exact quote is more work than I'm willing to put in. You said "I laughed in her face and told her there are 100 girls in Medellin I can have for $12". It's that memory loss thing popping up again. This is much different than discussing the going casa rate in Medellin. Considering the going rate where she was is $28, you were indeed saying she was worth less, because you were telling her she's not even worth 1/2 the going rate. You do understand that you can't apply Medellin rates to Pattaya, or are we back to the dementia again?
Nowhere did I mention or insinuate she was a tourist. I didn't fully grasp the nature of your disability before. My reasoning is, if a woman is selling sexual services in a known center for prostitution, and she is originally from another well known center for prostitution, she could very well be a traveling prostitute. Therefore, the possibility exists that she has offered those same services in other countries as well. I believe you understand that the going rate varies with location. This is just spit balling, but just maybe, she had recently come from a place where she was getting $86. Regardless of her rationale for the price, it could have just been her way of saying it would take a helluva lot more money before she'd give you anything, there really is no need to belittle someone. A simple "no thanks" is sufficient.
Here's a helpful hint. When you are replying to one post, and suddenly start throwing out something from another post by a different person, try to throw something in to connect the two. All I could come up with is you had worked the problem wrong with your $28 & $42 example (14 is 33% of 42 and 50% of 28).
The ongoing discussion has been about chicas charging more now than they were charging 10 years ago. It was not about the habits of individual chicas. If your gripe is completely different from the gripe I was responding to, prices going up, why did you quote me? And why did you go on to great length about prices going up, if you have no problem with that?
Seriously, see a physician. This could be a sign of a serious medical condition.
That's why she could ask for more. $86 is probably too much, but on the other hand if someone a bit tired of doing Asians for a week why not?
Case in point: I was in a pickup club in Thailand the night before last and spotted a Colombian chica. Definitely not my first time seeing or talking to one in the discos here. I went over to talk to her. Turns out she was from Medellin. I asked her about her prices. Do you know this chick told me $86 for 1 hour? (To put this in perspective, I gave the girl that I took home $28 for the entire night.) I laughed and told her that she knew good and well that I could get 100 just like her in Medellin for $12. After that, she turned up her nose and gave me the cold shoulder. What would even make her think she could get porterhouse steak prices in a discount meat warehouse? Was she researching on the internet what hookers are getting in England and decided that is how much she should be getting in Thailand? I seriously doubt it. More likely she said to herself let me see if I can find any suckers.
Mr E is here and can handle his own, but Sigmund Freud isn't here to defend himself.It was my way of inviting him back. LOL.
He was always all over my posts like a wet blanket.
Appreciated your introspecting considerations and for opening an window to your own life and thinking process.
Given that background of yours, I am wondering how common it was / is in this country, to go (horing) with your closest elders (same question for the Europeans on this board as they were growing up in the European countries)? Legalized brothels were removed from most EU countries by end of WWII while in the US, it is restricted to only a few states. Based on my reading, I understand that in South America (perhaps also in Mexico), it might still be customary for a father to take his son to an initiation ceremony but I wonder if there are class ramifications to such a comportment. As far as I am concerned, growing up in a third world country like India, where prostitution in all its forms abounds but never in the open, my father would have strangled me even for entertaining the idea in our lower middle class upbringing and I have a feeling that my 16 year old son would look at me with disbelief and perhaps disdain for even floating the idea.Interesting question:
My ageing son and I are very close, and he knows I spend a lot of time in Sosua. He's heard from different relatives of my "friend" down there because a couple of them have actually met her.
I usually restrict my conversation to the place, the weather, the beaches, the fish, etc. Out of respect for his late mother.
Now, he's a lot like me, and from what I gather we share the same taste in women. But I just couldn't bring myself to take him with me whoring, even though he'd probably be the best wingman possible.
Why is that? I don't know, you tell me.
"Out of respect for his late mother. ".
I assume she has passed on since you say late mother. If you had a girlfriend would you not do her out of respect. It is just sex. My belief is we westerns are repressed sexual. It is all in our heads. Have fun and let him make the decision to chase hookers. Cheers.
"Out of respect for his late mother. ".
I assume she has passed on since you say late mother. If you had a girlfriend would you not do her out of respect. It is just sex. My belief is we westerns are repressed sexual. It is all in our heads. Have fun and let him make the decision to chase hookers. Cheers.I think you are on to something there!
I've managed to overcome any traditional "repression" in my personal sex relatiionships, not to mention my routine trips to Sosua. :)
But, I do have a vestige of "respect' for women in general.
Interesting question:
My ageing son and I are very close, and he knows I spend a lot of time in Sosua. He's heard from different relatives of my "friend" down there because a couple of them have actually met her.
I usually restrict my conversation to the place, the weather, the beaches, the fish, etc. Out of respect for his late mother.
Now, he's a lot like me, and from what I gather we share the same taste in women. But I just couldn't bring myself to take him with me whoring, even though he'd probably be the best wingman possible.
Why is that? I don't know, you tell me.My two cents.
Of course I don't know your son's personality, beliefs, etc.
You are a widower (for how long, I don't know) but after a "respectable" interval, you have the rest of your life to live.
You ARE alive, you are a heterosexual male, and its normal you would want female companionship, and hopefully your son would understand this.
If you ever discuss this with him, I would put it like that. "I loved your mother, but she's gone. I'm still alive, I want a woman's company occasionally, etc. ".
You are certainly not being unfaithful to a deceased partner.
It sounds like you are discreet, not relating tales of your latest whoring expedition, which is good.
Not sure I would make these trips "family affairs" as the sex life of one's parents / children is one of those things best left unexplored, in my view.
Several years ago, I was at BB when some guy brought his son (late teens) along and set him up with one of the chicas.
I found that pretty disgusting, personally. Could really screw up the kid's attitude toward women, any future serious relationships, etc.
Also makes his father look like a low-life. I know this sounds hypocritical on this forum, but there are things about our parents best left unknown, in my view.
We are all fallible human beings, not perfect heroes, but flaunting those human flaws in front of our children does damage, in my view.
What image / respect can the son have for his father after that?
Whoring with one's children is not a good idea.
Perhaps, one day, you could introduce him to your "girlfriend" but in the context of a woman you have a "semi-relationship" with.
Not in the context of cruising Sosua for working girls, etc.
For what its worth.
Good luck.
Tempoecorto
07-26-15, 19:09
My reasoning is, if a woman is selling sexual services in a known center for prostitution, and she is originally from another well known center for prostitution, she could very well be a traveling prostitute. Therefore, the possibility exists that she has offered those same services in other countries as well. I believe you understand that the going rate varies with location. You would find Russian (Stan kinds in particular) women in Istanbul, or in Dubai commanding higher prices. Not too long back, in Singapore, white women were rarely found in clubs, forget Thailand which is way down the pecking list there and so you could not see them there. Indeed, white women in Singapore, because of the "rarity" aspect commanded higher price from Asian men. Similarly Nigerian women (and Albanians) were sought after in Italy. So you are right, going rate varies with location.
When I had a corporate job, based out of EU, I could do only EU; based out of Singapore, I could do only ASIA, certainly not all the continents in infinite circles, reading the posts. The organizations rarely allows such latitude and I daresay, if anything thanks to technology, the leash is tighter, when one intends to squeeze out a little personal time.Maybe Mr E works for the Airlines. I believe his exploits because I know a few guys who travel all over the world and some of them have girlfriends in damn near every continent that they visited. The one common denominator was they all worked for the airlines and had jobs where they could work their asses off for a short period, then they had time to travel on a frequent basis. Its was actually easier for these guys to get seats on international flights than it was to secure a 1st class ticket within the states.
The only other guy I ever met who traveled that frequently was a Doctor. His schedule was 7 days on, 7 days off. He would go to Brasil every other weekend for about 3 years straight.
Appreciated your introspecting considerations and for opening an window to your own life and thinking process.
Given that background of yours, I am wondering how common it was / is in this country, to go (horing) with your closest elders (same question for the Europeans on this board as they were growing up in the European countries)? Legalized brothels were removed from most EU countries by end of WWII while in the US, it is restricted to only a few states. Based on my reading, I understand that in South America (perhaps also in Mexico), it might still be customary for a father to take his son to an initiation ceremony but I wonder if there are class ramifications to such a comportment. As far as I am concerned, growing up in a third world country like India, where prostitution in all its forms abounds but never in the open, my father would have strangled me even for entertaining the idea in our lower middle class upbringing and I have a feeling that my 16 year old son would look at me with disbelief and perhaps disdain for even floating the idea.Having grown up in Spain, in a small town, during the repressive twin dictadorships of Franco and the Catholic Church, the only venues for sexual release were the *houses in the provincial capital or a charitable housemaid. One day me and a cousin, both 16,were taken to lunch in La Coruna by my father and some of his friends. As dessert and coffee was being served and cognac was poured and habanos were lighted one of the men told my father to give us some money to spend in a bordello. My father smiled and let it pass but a while later suggested that we should go to the nearby port to see the ships and let the adults talk. The money he gave us was more than enough and so many years later I still remember vividily that first time experience. Of course my mother never knew. She would have been horrified. To this date, Spain leads the EU in per capita visits to houses of pleasuer, perhaps a sequel to forty years of repression.
Marc Anthony
07-26-15, 23:43
I'm looking to take Metro bus from Santo Domingo to Sosua.
Can someone please provide the location of the Metro Bus station closest to the Santo Domingo airport (Las Americas) ?
I also need to know what can I expect to pay for taxi from airport to Metro bus station in Santo Domingo?You are better off googling this stuff and storing it on your own device. The main Metro station is on highway 1 near Ave Luperon, the same highway that goes past SDQ. All info is on their website. Taxi from the airport to the station is the same fixed rate to most places in town. $30? Uber has come to town and there are a lot of posts on trying to get around the tax mafia. If you can get out of the airport you can find cheaper alternatives.
Mr E is here and can handle his own, but Sigmund Freud isn't here to defend himself.If he was in Sosua I daresay his id would get the better of his superego.
That's why she could ask for more. $86 is probably too much, but on the other hand if someone a bit tired of doing Asians for a week why not?She'd certainly be exotic for a Japanese or Chinese businessman doing Thailand, no? I can see them paying more for a non-Asian.
We are all fallible human beings, not perfect heroes, but flaunting those human flaws in front of our children does damage, in my view.
What image / respect can the son have for his father after that?
Whoring with one's children is not a good idea.
Perhaps, one day, you could introduce him to your "girlfriend" but in the context of a woman you have a "semi-relationship" with.
Not in the context of cruising Sosua for working girls, etc.
For what its worth.
Good luck.Thank for the comments, and your other post re family and societal attitudes.
Sex preferences really do depend on your upbringing and culture. I grew up in the UK and sex was separate and hidden from normal life, not so much a church thing, but a general working class attitude influenced by the War, and although I lived in a poor working class city, travelled around there, and drank regularly in bars from age 16, I never saw a real life hooker until I was 21 and in Canada. But being young, I guess I really wasn't looking for them. Or maybe it was the lack of money to indulge, so that shacking up was the cheapest way to get regular pussy.
Of course now when I go back to visit there's no problem getting laid in one of the "parlors". Now they are everywhere.
But seeing as how the first adult pussy I saw had hair, I still have a hard time getting off on a bald pussy, LOL.
And, I'm still blown away by beautiful black and Asian women, because they weren't around when I was growing up.
Given that background of yours, I am wondering how common it was / is in this country, to go (horing) with your closest elders (same question for the Europeans on this board as they were growing up in the European countries)? Legalized brothels were removed from most EU countries by end of WWII while in the US, it is restricted to only a few states. Based on my reading, I understand that in South America (perhaps also in Mexico), it might still be customary for a father to take his son to an initiation ceremony but I wonder if there are class ramifications to such a comportment. As far as I am concerned, growing up in a third world country like India, where prostitution in all its forms abounds but never in the open, my father would have strangled me even for entertaining the idea in our lower middle class upbringing and I have a feeling that my 16 year old son would look at me with disbelief and perhaps disdain for even floating the idea.A good topic for discussion. I'm sure there are subcultures within the US where the practice is acceptable, but it doesn't follow any racial lines.
I remember overhearing a conversation when I was quite young. When my father was stationed at Miramar, sometimes him and his buddies would head down to Tijuana on a Saturday "to get haircuts". That was probably 1963 or '64, and for $2 you could probably get a shave, haircut, nut and a cerveza in Tijuana. My dad also went on 4 WestPac cruises, with stops in Hawaii, Phillipines, Japan and who knows where else. I expect I've got a dozen or so half brothers and sisters scattered across eastern Asia.
Because of the discussion about prices in Sosua, and the increase, I decided to do the math and find out just how bad things are. It's not too difficult, you just need the price in 2005, I assumed 500 DOP, the current price, 1500 DOP, the exchange rates for then and now, 29 DOP /1 USD and 45 DOP /1 USD, and the adjustment for inflation, 1.22 for the US and 1.6 for the DR.
Roughly speaking, in 2005 dollars, 500 pesos was about $17.24. In today's dollars 1500 pesos is about $33.33. A big jump, but not too crazy. However, when you adjust for inflation, 1500 pesos in 2005 dollars is $27.30. So, the tourist is paying quite a bit more today.
Now for the Dominican numbers. The Dominican Republic inflation rate over the same period is much higher than the US rate, due to 2 critical factors. The first is the steady growth of the DR tourism industry, but more importantly, the DR was not hit nearly as hard by the collapse in 2008. It hurts a lot more when you fall off the ladder when you're at the top.
Are you ready for this? Adjusted for inflation and exchange rates, the jump from 500 to 1500 pesos is only an increase from $17.24 to $20.83.
As you can see, all the talk about people overpaying and driving up prices is meaningless. The price difference represents a small increase in standard of living.
Charles Pooter
07-27-15, 15:44
I grew up in the UK and sex was separate and hidden from normal life, not so much a church thing, but a general working class attitude influenced by the War.I didn't know you came from the UK, Oakie, but I always sensed there must be some good in you.
You are way off-beam with the above comment, though. Suppression of, and hypocrisy about, sex was very much a church thing, in the sense that it derives from the Puritan tradition. Working class people (other than those of Irish stock) were predominantly low-church. My parents never went to church except for weddings and funerals but all their social values were low church / Methodist, and the same for our whole street apart from one despised Irish family who had nine kids, got blind drunk every weekend, and set the net curtains twitching.
The Second World War was the great liberator of the working class, socially, politically and sexually. All those young lads away from their parents and neighbours, were sexually liberated for the first time. Once the war was over they had to knuckle down again, but twenty years later they were the generation in charge, hence the famous "Swinging Sixties".
Because of the discussion about prices in Sosua, and the increase, I decided to do the math and find out just how bad things are. It's not too difficult, you just need the price in 2005, I assumed 500 DOP, the current price, 1500 DOP, the exchange rates for then and now, 29 DOP /1 USD and 45 DOP /1 USD, and the adjustment for inflation, 1.22 for the US and 1.6 for the DR.
Roughly speaking, in 2005 dollars, 500 pesos was about $17.24. In today's dollars 1500 pesos is about $33.33. A big jump, but not too crazy. However, when you adjust for inflation, 1500 pesos in 2005 dollars is $27.30. So, the tourist is paying quite a bit more today.
Now for the Dominican numbers. The Dominican Republic inflation rate over the same period is much higher than the US rate, due to 2 critical factors. The first is the steady growth of the DR tourism industry, but more importantly, the DR was not hit nearly as hard by the collapse in 2008. It hurts a lot more when you fall off the ladder when you're at the top.
Are you ready for this? Adjusted for inflation and exchange rates, the jump from 500 to 1500 pesos is only an increase from $17.24 to $20.83.
As you can see, all the talk about people overpaying and driving up prices is meaningless. The price difference represents a small increase in standard of living.Precisely. But in 2005 500 pesos was rock bottom and as I recall the price at Blackbeards around that time was something like 1300 pesos. However in 2003 the exchange rate was 50 pesos to the dollar, so 1300 pesos had been only about $26 at that time. Then when the exchange went to 29,1300 pesos would have been about $35.
The notion that mongers have caused prices and wages inflation in the DR is absurd. Don't I recall Mr. Emotional complaining not long ago about being caught up in industrial action with protests blocking the street? Haven't DR teachers struck for more pay, and government doctors too? Does the world commodity price of oil or propane affect the DR in any way?
Actually the one thing that keeps wages for unskilled labor down in the DR is the presence of Haitians, and this is also the case in the sex industry, and also the cause of some friction.
I didn't know you came from the UK, Oakie, but I always sensed there must be some good in you.
You are way off-beam with the above comment, though. Suppression of, and hypocrisy about, sex was very much a church thing, in the sense that it derives from the Puritan tradition. Working class people (other than those of Irish stock) were predominantly low-church. My parents never went to church except for weddings and funerals but all their social values were low church / Methodist, and the same for our whole street apart from one despised Irish family who had nine kids, got blind drunk every weekend, and set the net curtains twitching.
The Second World War was the great liberator of the working class, socially, politically and sexually. All those young lads away from their parents and neighbours, were sexually liberated for the first time. Once the war was over they had to knuckle down again, but twenty years later they were the generation in charge, hence the famous "Swinging Sixties".It all started with George Formby and his Little Stick of Brighton Rock in his pocket--during WWII, as you say.
Parkinsons
07-27-15, 16:20
Sir,
Any reason why you have to (re) upload your YouTube videos like every month? Is YouTube censoring your stuff? Just curious. Keep up the good work.
Tempoecorto
07-27-15, 17:07
You are way off-beam with the above comment, though. Suppression of, and hypocrisy about, sex was very much a church thing, in the sense that it derives from the Puritan tradition. Great conversation, also with the input from Yonkers 44 about Spain. But do explain to me one thing, in the UK, what percentage of people 50 years back used to belong to the Church of England and was that church as "hypocritical" as the Catholic church given that it descended from them? Didn't the Puritans have a beef with the Church of England and hence I tend to view the latter, as more liberal than the Calvinists.
More interestingly, given that the church was the moralist everywhere in Europe, how does one explain the geographic variations, say, between the Latin cultures (Spain / Italy / France) where fathers were more open about theirs sons vis a vis the Northern cultures (UK / Holland / Germany) where such a thing would be unthinkable.
I didn't know you came from the UK, Oakie, but I always sensed there must be some good in you.
You are way off-beam with the above comment, though. Suppression of, and hypocrisy about, sex was very much a church thing, in the sense that it derives from the Puritan tradition. Working class people (other than those of Irish stock) were predominantly low-church. My parents never went to church except for weddings and funerals but all their social values were low church / Methodist, and the same for our whole street apart from one despised Irish family who had nine kids, got blind drunk every weekend, and set the net curtains twitching.
The Second World War was the great liberator of the working class, socially, politically and sexually. All those young lads away from their parents and neighbours, were sexually liberated for the first time. Once the war was over they had to knuckle down again, but twenty years later they were the generation in charge, hence the famous "Swinging Sixties".Love that "twitching curtain" bit. A full time job for some stay at home ladies.
We lived in industrial terraced houses in the smoky north, so our experiences may differ, say, from Sussex, Kent, or Mayfair, LOL.
Nobody in our family went to church, but they did send us to Sunday school! Our grandparents were dead against sex outside marriage, scared stiff of an out of wedlock pregnancy in the family, for practical reasons rather than religious, but we had one anyway. (condoms were for the rich, and anyway nobody in our district had STDs).
All the teenage girls had curfews, and woe betide any that came in late. Most of the rows that occurred were with girls coming home late. It was a problem for us lads because sometimes the bus actually DID breakdown and we got them home late. Then there was hell to pay. Sneaking in to her house and hiding under the bed, it actually happened!
It was all be summed up brilliantly in the Kinks' YouTube video, "Come dancing".
Fast forward to Canada at 21. A big car, women everywhere looking to get laid, parks, lakes, laneways, and cheap motels. Girls with their own apartments and flats with no curfews, (and no nosy landladies). lol
Fast forward again to today, now we have Sosua. There IS a god!
Great conversation, also with the input from Yonkers 44 about Spain. But do explain to me one thing, in the UK, what percentage of people 50 years back used to belong to the Church of England and was that church as "hypocritical" as the Catholic church given that it descended from them? Didn't the Puritans have a beef with the Church of England and hence I tend to view the latter, as more liberal than the Calvinists.
More interestingly, given that the church was the moralist everywhere in Europe, how does one explain the geographic variations, say, between the Latin cultures (Spain / Italy / France) where fathers were more open about theirs sons vis a vis the Northern cultures (UK / Holland / Germany) where such a thing would be unthinkable.Fifty years ago not many people in UK went to church, but its influence was pervasive with daily prayers and hymns in schools and religious education the only subject that was (is) mandatory by law. Sex ed in schools was basically "don't or you will die of syphilis". Church of England and Presbyterians in Scotland kept businesses and nearly all entertainment closed on Sundays. So before TV parents sent children to Sunday school on Sunday afternoon so parents could stay home and fuck undisturbed.
At barber shops they would ask "is there anything else sir" and the boldest teenagers would ask for a packet of Durec in the hope of having a chance to use them in combat.
Also see the movie The Family Way or read an online synopsis.
More interestingly, given that the church was the moralist everywhere in Europe, how does one explain the geographic variations, say, between the Latin cultures (Spain / Italy / France) where fathers were more open about theirs sons vis a vis the Northern cultures (UK / Holland / Germany) where such a thing would be unthinkable.Because Protestants believe that faith is necessary for salvation, but Catholics believe you can confess and be forgiven on your deathbed. Church of England is basically Catholicism without the Pope except in Scotland. Also Catholics revere the Virgin Mary more than other types of Christianity.
Because Protestants believe that faith is necessary for salvation, but Catholics believe you can confess and be forgiven on your deathbed. Church of England is basically Catholicism without the Pope except in Scotland. Also Catholics revere the Virgin Mary more than other types of Christianity.I have noted that in the Latin American culture, (Spain / Portugal), the machismo culture is also a factor.
The men consider it their prerogative to have mistresses, go to bordellos, etc.
The women indoctrinated in this mindset just brush it off as "men being men," etc.
The more old-fashioned types might accept this, but I have seen more "modern" society react with condemnation.
Still talking about the Catholic traditions, after all.
My impression is that the Northern Europeans, ie, German, Dutch are more open-minded regarding sex.
An Army buddy in Germany would spend the weekend with his German girlfriend (who lived with her father) and they walked around the house stark naked, like no big deal.
Same impression in Germany with women sunbathing topless in the parks and very liberal attitudes toward sex.
Look at the number of FKK clubs in Germany.
It may be the Scandinavians that inherited the stricter forms of Protestantism.
Maybe Mr E works for the Airlines. I believe his exploits because I know a few guys who travel all over the world and some of them have girlfriends in damn near every continent that they visited. The one common denominator was they all worked for the airlines and had jobs where they could work their asses off for a short period, then they had time to travel on a frequent basis. Its was actually easier for these guys to get seats on international flights than it was to secure a 1st class ticket within the states.
The only other guy I ever met who traveled that frequently was a Doctor. His schedule was 7 days on, 7 days off. He would go to Brasil every other weekend for about 3 years straight.Give that man his props. Bravo you nailed it! Mr. E does deals with the airline. The man travels. If you ever was standing beside him you wouldn't know because he is like a chameleon. He has chicks he fuck for free- And hoes he pay a fee. I call him Ghostface Killer because with his job he can be any where in the world killin dem and else where the next week. Yeah I said dem! If he fucks with you - you can PM him and he drop a jewel or two or give you some good info. I met Mr. E in BC once. He was with a fellow young pilot and he was schooling him. I remember when the police came to asked him a question. He looked at the officer like he didn't understand a word and play the dumb gringo role. LOL He spoke the most Spanish out of all 5 of us. Sorry Mr. E. I didn't mean to but your personal out there but Bravo deserve his props.
Give that man his props. Bravo you nailed it! Mr. E does deals with the airline. The man travels. If you ever was standing beside him you wouldn't know because he is like a chameleon. He has chicks he fuck for free- And hoes he pay a fee. I call him Ghostface Killer because with his job he can be any where in the world killin dem and else where the next week. Yeah I said dem! If he fucks with you - you can PM him and he drop a jewel or two or give you some good info. I met Mr. E in BC once. He was with a fellow young pilot and he was schooling him. I remember when the police came to asked him a question. He looked at the officer like he didn't understand a word and play the dumb gringo role. LOL He spoke the most Spanish out of all 5 of us. Sorry Mr. E. I didn't mean to but your personal out there but Bravo deserve his props.I don't give a fuck who he is. Here, he is just another monger on a monger board.
If he comes out with contradictory crap here, I for one will call him on it.
We don't have royalty here, nor do we have to be PC.
(unless he's getting you laid for free) LOL.
ThunderStar
07-28-15, 21:02
You haven't met Charlie Pooter yet. He is royalty!
You haven't met Charlie Pooter yet. He is royalty!Well, you got me there! Lol
Ath Trainer
07-29-15, 15:56
Got into Sosua yesterday. Staying at New Garden. Seemed very quiet. Took a walk around town. Very quiet during the day. Had a couple bottom feeders approach, but that's it.
Went out about 930, still very quiet. Decided to sit at Rumba. A few girls were there. Was approached by a few, but nothing good.
A light carmel skinned, petite blond came in, with 2 friends. Looked nice, upbeat, dancing to the music at times. Would not look my way. Then, out of knowhere, she comes over. Bambi, 26, SD. She had some neg signals, which my lust overlooked. Ordered a expensive drink. Origionally asked for 100 dollars, immediately dropped to 3000 pesos, then settled for 2000. Before we left for the room, she ordered another drink, took a sip, and gave it to her sister when we left.
At one point, she was dancing for me at the bar, and the waiter told her to stop.
We get to the room, she puts the condom on when I'm limp, does CBJ for 5 min, jumps on top for 5, and gets off. I'm limp, so she thinks I came. I sa no, so she grabs me for 2 min, and falls asleep. I'm like, wtf. After a while, I take some pics, and turn the tv on, loud. She still is out. She keeps moving around in her sleep, more than when she was on top. I start to play with her kittty, and she wakes up. I'm now hard, somwe put the condom on right, and try again, with much better results. She gets dressed, I walk her out. Security aks about her ID. Nobody checked on the way in. She did have one. She gave me her number, but hope I won't need it.
Never made it to Classicos, so no report there.
I made a second trip to Sosua mid June. Just mostly general things here for this report. I stayed again at the New Garden Hotel. Its an ok Hotel, some decent food, friendly staff. The loud music tends to get played at the pool at all hours of the night, I finally asked someone at the front desk to take care of this, and they did. The highlight of my trip was Jenny, about 5' curvy body, great dominican ass, soft MM the's (couldn't tell until I felt them, but still soft and nice) long black, straight hair. Good in the bed, a little too much with the "oh Papi", but good none the less. I think I paid $2500. I found here at Rumba's.
The rest of the trip, nothing unusual. Last time, I picked up a few girls on at the beach during the day, this time, I didn't see many except Sunday when I arrived. Many of the girls this time got to the room and tried to upsell. I told two of them to leave right away when they started that stuff, and they stayed anyway. One of these started CBJ and said our fee only included BJ, I told her to leave, handed her $500 instead of the $2000, she also changed her tune. One chica argued about the price we agreed on, I just sent her packing this time. Picked up a couple of Classicos girls and at the bar downstairs, ok service but always the upsell.
I went to MM massage a couple of times, great massage for about $12 US, no extras. Not sure that some of these wouldn't go out on a regular date, though. I went to a massage place that I went to last time, walking out of New Garden take a right toward the beach, then right at the next street, and the place is on the right. (next to the baseball field) Last trip, I got HJ from one of the therapist each time, along with a great massage, and one morning, she came to my room for FS. Didn't see her this trip. This place is just a room with curtains, MM is more like a real massage place with rooms, unless you end up on the table in the hall. I had a cute therapist this time, but no teasing and I didn't ask for extras.
Anyway, I wish there were more available during the day, I missed out on a cutie at one of the side bars from the main street, seemed very sweet, but I was worn out. I called Jenny the last morning, she came back for more of the same. She said she does greek for more money, I hope she is there next trip.
I wasn't there in the so called hey day, but still plenty of girls available. It did seem like the hotter girls (in my opinion) were harder to find, but there still is plenty to go around.
The food is good food to be found, Mafango King at the beach was a favorite. Also Sinatras, Baileys are all good. I am sure I will be back, but it seemed the upsell was more this time.
I have had many girls who are exhausted when they get back to the room. It could also be they are not used to comfortable beds. I usually give them a shower and massage before activity. First encounters are often less then satisfactory You did a good job of saving the night. I cut the cord when they order expensive drink or do other similar crap. Plenty of ladies will be thrilled to have your money. When they show a like of consideration I cut them off.
Got into Sosua yesterday. Staying at New Garden. Seemed very quiet. Took a walk around town. Very quiet during the day. Had a couple bottom feeders approach, but that's it.
Went out about 930, still very quiet. Decided to sit at Rumba. A few girls were there. Was approached by a few, but nothing good.
A light carmel skinned, petite blond came in, with 2 friends. Looked nice, upbeat, dancing to the music at times. Would not look my way. Then, out of knowhere, she comes over. Bambi, 26, SD. She had some neg signals, which my lust overlooked. Ordered a expensive drink. Origionally asked for 100 dollars, immediately dropped to 3000 pesos, then settled for 2000. Before we left for the room, she ordered another drink, took a sip, and gave it to her sister when we left.
At one point, she was dancing for me at the bar, and the waiter told her to stop.
We get to the room, she puts the condom on when I'm limp, does CBJ for 5 min, jumps on top for 5, and gets off. I'm limp, so she thinks I came. I sa no, so she grabs me for 2 min, and falls asleep. I'm like, wtf. After a while, I take some pics, and turn the tv on, loud. She still is out. She keeps moving around in her sleep, more than when she was on top. I start to play with her kittty, and she wakes up. I'm now hard, somwe put the condom on right, and try again, with much better results. She gets dressed, I walk her out. Security aks about her ID. Nobody checked on the way in. She did have one. She gave me her number, but hope I won't need it.
Never made it to Classicos, so no report there.
At one point, she was dancing for me at the bar, and the waiter told her to stop.
We get to the room, she puts the condom on when I'm limp, does CBJ for 5 min, jumps on top for 5, and gets off. I'm limp, so she thinks I came. I sa no, so she grabs me for 2 min, and falls asleep. I'm like, wtf. After a while, I take some pics, and turn the tv on, loud. She still is out. She keeps moving around in her sleep, more than when she was on top. I start to play with her kittty, and she wakes up. I'm now hard, somwe put the condom on right, and try again, with much better results. She gets dressed, I walk her out. Security aks about her ID. Nobody checked on the way in. She did have one. She gave me her number, but hope I won't need it.
.Why did the waiter tell her to stop dancing? Was she giving you a lap dance or something?
The new owner or mgr does not want people dancing in the club and will sanction girls who do. I like to dance with girls before I select them. I have been told by the girls they will get in trouble for dancing.
Why did the waiter tell her to stop dancing? Was she giving you a lap dance or something?
Ath Trainer
07-29-15, 19:01
I have had many girls who are exhausted when they get back to the room. It could also be they are not used to comfortable beds. I usually give them a shower and massage before activity. First encounters are often less then satisfactory You did a good job of saving the night. I cut the cord when they order expensive drink or do other similar crap. Plenty of ladies will be thrilled to have your money. When they show a like of consideration I cut them off.I speak very little Spanish, which weakens my hand, at times. When the waiter came to take her order, she motioned to me to order. I didn't know what she wanted, so I through it back to her. My lg Presidente was 150, where her alcohol was 300. Posibly a shot of tequila. Didn't want to blow, what appeared otherwise as a good lay.
Ath Trainer
07-29-15, 19:04
The new owner or mgr does not want people dancing in the club and will sanction girls who do. I like to dance with girls before I select them. I have been told by the girls they will get in trouble for dancing.The dance was far from a couch dance, or provacative. What was funny, there was a girl twirking in the corner, for a guy. It caufgt my eye, and hoped shed leave him and come to me. Nobody said a word. I know I wasnt complainng, LOL.
We are often so sex starved and deperate we accept anything the girls do. However I have learned that no, matter how pretty the girl is iff her attitude sucks the sex will suffer. I will take a decent looking girl over a 10 if her attitude is bad. If the girl is not enjoying the session with me I feel cheated.
I speak very little Spanish, which weakens my hand, at times. When the waiter came to take her order, she motioned to me to order. I didn't know what she wanted, so I through it back to her. My lg Presidente was 150, where her alcohol was 300. Posibly a shot of tequila. Didn't want to blow, what appeared otherwise as a good lay.
We are often so sex starved and deperate we accept anything the girls do. However I have learned that no, matter how pretty the girl is iff her attitude sucks the sex will suffer. I will take a decent looking girl over a 10 if her attitude is bad. If the girl is not enjoying the session with me I feel cheated.Usually a hooker will enjoy the session if you are young and handsome. However, I am no Brad Pitt, more like an Ernest Borgnine. I, therefore, see it as my task to get the girl to enjoy the session. Recently (in SEA where I am now), I encountered a starfish among starfishes; after taking off her clothes she lay flat on her back on the bed with her eyes closed. When asked she said she does not do BJ and when I tried to go down on her she refused. What was a guy to do? Acknowledging that there was a risk of throwing away money here I continued to try to make a session out of the encounter especially as she was so hot with silky smooth skin, beautiful face, slim body. Caressing and kissing that body from head to toe secured my hard on. I entered her in mish then after ten minutes side spoon entry with her left leg up in the air all with minimal reaction on her part. However, when I proceeded to doggy she could not hold back and her moans and groans were genuine. I like it when I make a starfish cry out as I know she has no intention of pleasing me and the noise is not fake. Mission accomplished.
AColonizer
07-30-15, 08:16
I don't trust anything about prostitutes, no groaning voice no muscle contractions, that's just an acting. I say, I saw too many unimaginable frauds and scams: in fact a prostitute understands the type of man in front of her and she acts the role of the poor little girl. The real story is the opposite and it has lasted millennia and it always works with butter-hearted men.
Usually a hooker will enjoy the session if you are young and handsome. However, I am no Brad Pitt, more like an Ernest Borgnine. I, therefore, see it as my task to get the girl to enjoy the session. Recently (in SEA where I am now), I encountered a starfish among starfishes; after taking off her clothes she lay flat on her back on the bed with her eyes closed. When asked she said she does not do BJ and when I tried to go down on her she refused. What was a guy to do? Acknowledging that there was a risk of throwing away money here I continued to try to make a session out of the encounter especially as she was so hot with silky smooth skin, beautiful face, slim body. Caressing and kissing that body from head to toe secured my hard on. I entered her in mish then after ten minutes side spoon entry with her left leg up in the air all with minimal reaction on her part. However, when I proceeded to doggy she could not hold back and her moans and groans were genuine. I like it when I make a starfish cry out as I know she has no intention of pleasing me and the noise is not fake. Mission accomplished.
ForceSteeler
07-30-15, 08:36
Usually a hooker will enjoy the session if you are young and handsome. However, I am no Brad Pitt, more like an Ernest Borgnine. I have been mongering for 5 Years and I'm a young guy (32 Years old) and most hookers prefer older men like 50 Years+. They like older men because it's a better chance of having a relationship or aka Western Union Novio. Younger crowd are usually sport fuckers and it's much harder to extract money because most young guys are not established like older men. Now if your trying to get a Non-Pro or trying to get pussy for free, Then these kind of girls prefer a more younger guy. A Non-Pro in the Dominican Republic does not want to walk around with a 50 year old Gringo as most people will think she is a hooker. She would prefer someone close to her age to kinda blend in and not get stares when she walks through the mall. But even older guys 50+ year still have a chance, you just have to tailor your game into which you don't make a Non-Pro feel like a hooker. I know I just contradicted myself but the main thing is if your a older guy expect to spend money where a guy that is 25-29 Years old or younger can get it for free.
Usually a hooker will enjoy the session if you are young and handsome. However, I am no Brad Pitt, more like an Ernest Borgnine. I, therefore, see it as my task to get the girl to enjoy the session. Recently (in SEA where I am now), I encountered a starfish among starfishes; after taking off her clothes she lay flat on her back on the bed with her eyes closed. When asked she said she does not do BJ and when I tried to go down on her she refused. What was a guy to do? Acknowledging that there was a risk of throwing away money here I continued to try to make a session out of the encounter especially as she was so hot with silky smooth skin, beautiful face, slim body. Caressing and kissing that body from head to toe secured my hard on. I entered her in mish then after ten minutes side spoon entry with her left leg up in the air all with minimal reaction on her part. However, when I proceeded to doggy she could not hold back and her moans and groans were genuine. I like it when I make a starfish cry out as I know she has no intention of pleasing me and the noise is not fake. Mission accomplished.The seduction should have started from the beginning not at the end where you were uncertain of the outcome. In this sport fucking climate we sometimes forget that the girl has to reach her comfort zone in order to fully enjoy the session. You have to make them like you by complimenting them, touching them, and relaxing them by making them laugh. Take them out of that business zone and make them think it means more to you than that.
Reverse it and make it about them, women love to be seduced. Take your time and enjoy every minute of it as she appreciates your desire, sport fuckers don't do this. Something simple as playful slaps will help you figure out how they want it, but play it off with a laugh if she doesn't reply accordingly. Rub your naked body on hers looking for a sensual moan, and read the signals. Show her your erection and follow her reaction. Sometimes you have to climb her body and present the dick to her with help of your hand behind her head. Moan as if you really appreciate her effort. If you go down on her make her appreciate it, start at her inner thighs. Tell her she is beautiful as you tease her. Hold her legs up and lick the full length of her back leg. Grab a condom and watch her reaction (eye contact) as you put the condom on and she knows she is about to get fucked. Start slow and go by her reaction. After the first session cuddle and tell her she is special as she spits some bullshit thinking she has you hooked or maybe you are the one. As you talk move her hand downstairs to prove she is genuine, and go for seconds. Let her play the conclusion because she is the professional but you have already completed the mission. Be a classy guy as she states you are different than the other guys. Take her number, kiss her on the forehead sweetly and say goodbye. She will give you her number and look genuinely as she says please call me.
The problem will be that now you have created a stalker who feels you are only for her so be careful LOL.
Member #4716
07-30-15, 12:18
Usually a hooker will enjoy the session if you are young and handsome. However, I am no Brad Pitt, more like an Ernest Borgnine. I, therefore, see it as my task to get the girl to enjoy the session. Recently (in SEA where I am now), I encountered a starfish among starfishes; after taking off her clothes she lay flat on her back on the bed with her eyes closed. When asked she said she does not do BJ and when I tried to go down on her she refused. What was a guy to do? Acknowledging that there was a risk of throwing away money here I continued to try to make a session out of the encounter especially as she was so hot with silky smooth skin, beautiful face, slim body. Caressing and kissing that body from head to toe secured my hard on. I entered her in mish then after ten minutes side spoon entry with her left leg up in the air all with minimal reaction on her part. However, when I proceeded to doggy she could not hold back and her moans and groans were genuine. I like it when I make a starfish cry out as I know she has no intention of pleasing me and the noise is not fake. Mission accomplished.Great job, Turgid! Remember: we are not here to look good for women; women are here to look good for us.
I, therefore, see it as my task to get the girl to enjoy the session. .Negotiate the price AFTER you've fucked them!
You should get a major discount LOL.
But I share your love of 10's. In my old age I can still get 6's for free at home, but I'm not interested. To get a 10 P4P here, it always took some effort to search, set up, was expensive, hit and miss, and the good ones didn't stick around.
But I got lucky and stopped going to DR for 2 years because I found my dream girl (yes another one) right here. A beautiful Japanese part time student and independent stripper (yes, really!), who drove her own car (and sometimes even cooked for me). It was a "you help me, I help you" (no meter running) deal and just like my DR regular we both enjoyed the deal.
After I had that for over a year I was totally spoiled. I figured I could now die happy.
Being young, she moved on and I moved back to DR.
Ath Trainer
07-30-15, 14:42
We are often so sex starved and deperate we accept anything the girls do. However I have learned that no, matter how pretty the girl is iff her attitude sucks the sex will suffer. I will take a decent looking girl over a 10 if her attitude is bad. If the girl is not enjoying the session with me I feel cheated.I agree. Attitude is more important than looks. My first impression of this girl was she had both. As the night went on, I learned better. The girl I found lat night had great attitude and good look. She was as good in the room as she was at the bar. She's suppose to come back this am for sum more.
When you find a winner repeating is a great thing. Sometimes we are so anxious for numbers we sacrifice quality. I bet you will will have a ball on round 2. Thanks for the reports tske pictures.
I agree. Attitude is more important than looks. My first impression of this girl was she had both. As the night went on, I learned better. The girl I found lat night had great attitude and good look. She was as good in the room as she was at the bar. She's suppose to come back this am for sum more.
I don't trust anything about prostitutes, no groaning voice no muscle contractions, that's just an acting. I say, I saw too many unimaginable frauds and scams: in fact a prostitute understands the type of man in front of her and she acts the role of the poor little girl. The real story is the opposite and it has lasted millennia and it always works with butter-hearted men.I see your point. With ANY woman, you never know what really satisfies her until you've known her long enough to have "the talk," where you really discuss what you and she like and don't like. Until then, unless you are inside her when she climaxes, you never really know where she is. Unless she starfishes, then you know.
Not that it matters. As long as her performance convinces you in the moment, for STRs, that's all that really matters. Basing your satisfaction by trying to gauge whether SHE is really being genuine in this or that is an exercise in futility. If she is not your girlfriend, then why do you care?
I don't trust anything about prostitutes, no groaning voice no muscle contractions, that's just an acting. I say, I saw too many unimaginable frauds and scams: in fact a prostitute understands the type of man in front of her and she acts the role of the poor little girl. The real story is the opposite and it has lasted millennia and it always works with butter-hearted men.There are a few physiological reactions that a woman, prostitute or not, can't fake, same as a man can't fake an erection. The difference between an aroused and an un aroused pussy is quite obvious, and the former is a helluva lot more enjoyable.
I have been mongering for 5 Years and I'm a young guy (32 Years old) and most hookers prefer older men like 50 Years+. They like older men because it's a better chance of having a relationship or aka Western Union Novio. Younger crowd are usually sport fuckers and it's much harder to extract money because most young guys are not established like older men. Now if your trying to get a Non-Pro or trying to get pussy for free, Then these kind of girls prefer a more younger guy. A Non-Pro in the Dominican Republic does not want to walk around with a 50 year old Gringo as most people will think she is a hooker. She would prefer someone close to her age to kinda blend in and not get stares when she walks through the mall. But even older guys 50+ year still have a chance, you just have to tailor your game into which you don't make a Non-Pro feel like a hooker. I know I just contradicted myself but the main thing is if your a older guy expect to spend money where a guy that is 25-29 Years old or younger can get it for free.I'm going to have to call nonsense on this one too.
The DR pros, like other pros, prefer older men to younger men for some very good reasons. First, an older man is more likely to be considerate, a younger man is generally out to get what he wants and doesn't care about making it a better experience for the pro. This may seem like nothing, but if the girl is too sore to walk after 15 minutes of dry jackhammer action, she's not going to be making any money for the next 3 days.
Next, the older men are more likely to be respectful, such as during the initial meeting, or when dickering over the price. Just because a girl is selling herself doesn't mean she doesn't have feelings. Given the choice she'd rather go with the guy who treats her nice, rather than the guy who treats her like a piece of meat.
The older guys are more appreciative, less rushed, less demanding, and less likely to treat them like a pro.
These same qualities also work well with non-pros, especially outside the US, where an older man with a younger woman is more widely accepted.
Ath Trainer
07-30-15, 18:56
When you find a winner repeating is a great thing. Sometimes we are so anxious for numbers we sacrifice quality. I bet you will will have a ball on round 2. Thanks for the reports tske pictures.Started my evening at Rumbas, again. A little more crowded than Tues night. Quantity but not quality. A petite chica stops by, wearing a hat. Like her look, and attitude. Friendly and playful, and just a little English. Ordered a sm beer. She had 2 friends, who left after we started talking. The one looked prettier in the face, and younger.
Back to the room, still good attitude, and still looked good with her clothes off. We did a little of pretty much everything, no rush. No upsell when done. Did ask for moto money. No biggie. Asked about return visit jn the am. Arranged for 1130.
She showed up after 1200. Not a surprise. Still wearing that hat, and still looked good in daylight. Back in the room, a little faster pace than the night before. I wasnt feellng it, but she was a trooper, and go the job done. Did ask for a tip. I gave her moto money, and she was ok. Talked about tonight. I was uncomittal, and she was good. Need some change, if I'm going to leche tonight.
I have been mongering for 5 Years and I'm a young guy (32 Years old) and most hookers prefer older men like 50 Years+. They like older men because it's a better chance of having a relationship or aka Western Union Novio. Younger crowd are usually sport fuckers and it's much harder to extract money because most young guys are not established like older men. Now if your trying to get a Non-Pro or trying to get pussy for free, Then these kind of girls prefer a more younger guy. A Non-Pro in the Dominican Republic does not want to walk around with a 50 year old Gringo as most people will think she is a hooker. She would prefer someone close to her age to kinda blend in and not get stares when she walks through the mall. But even older guys 50+ year still have a chance, you just have to tailor your game into which you don't make a Non-Pro feel like a hooker. I know I just contradicted myself but the main thing is if your a older guy expect to spend money where a guy that is 25-29 Years old or younger can get it for free.Another post hits the spot!
Signed.
An older guy.
Started my evening at Rumbas, again. A little more crowded than Tues night. Quantity but not quality. A petite chica stops by, wearing a hat. Like her look, and attitude. Friendly and playful, and just a little English. Ordered a sm beer. She had 2 friends, who left after we started talking. The one looked prettier in the face, and younger.
Back to the room, still good attitude, and still looked good with her clothes off. We did a little of pretty much everything, no rush. No upsell when done. Did ask for moto money. No biggie. Asked about return visit jn the am. Arranged for 1130.
She showed up after 1200. Not a surprise. Still wearing that hat, and still looked good in daylight. Back in the room, a little faster pace than the night before. I wasnt feellng it, but she was a trooper, and go the job done. Did ask for a tip. I gave her moto money, and she was ok. Talked about tonight. I was uncomittal, and she was good. Need some change, if I'm going to leche tonight.Thanks for the current reports.
(I can almost smell it) :)
Tempoecorto
07-31-15, 00:49
.....where a guy that is 25-29 Years old or younger can get it for free...Free? Really? Is there such a thing?
BTW, as far as this forum is concerned, getting it for free is only one man's prerogative!
Free? Really? Is there such a thing?
BTW, as far as this forum is concerned, getting it for free is only one man's prerogative!There's definitely such a thing as free (unless you count time spent on the encounter as a cost). When I was 35 and younger, I got lots of girls for free in the USA And I'm sure many of my monger brothers on here did the same. Girls like to fuck also and if they find a guy attractive for whatever reason, many will fuck just for the enjoyment of it.
Don't tell me you never went on Spring Break and fucked a chick or two from across the country, both parties knowing nothing would come of it.
Alas, if you're my age (51), the only girls you can get for free in the USA are about 40 year old and up. That's where this mongering thing comes into play!
There's definitely such a thing as free (unless you count time spent on the encounter as a cost). When I was 35 and younger, I got lots of girls for free in the USA And I'm sure many of my monger brothers on here did the same. Girls like to fuck also and if they find a guy attractive for whatever reason, many will fuck just for the enjoyment of it.
Don't tell me you never went on Spring Break and fucked a chick or two from across the country, both parties knowing nothing would come of it.
Alas, if you're my age (51), the only girls you can get for free in the USA are about 40 year old and up. That's where this mongering thing comes into play!If I take a girl out on a date and spend on gas for the car, for the meal at the restaurant, I will add the money spent to the earnings I could have made working instead of spending time with her. Even if I don't take her out and she comes over to my place the time I would spend with her is worth something to me for my time is money. If I make her my GF or worse my wife then we're talking major expense, more so than p4 p. As Charlie Sheen says "I don't pay hookers for sex, I pay them to leave". Nothing worth having is free.
I'm going to have to call nonsense on this one too.
The DR pros, like other pros, prefer older men to younger men for some very good reasons. First, an older man is more likely to be considerate, a younger man is generally out to get what he wants and doesn't care about making it a better experience for the pro. This may seem like nothing, but if the girl is too sore to walk after 15 minutes of dry jackhammer action, she's not going to be making any money for the next 3 days.
Next, the older men are more likely to be respectful, such as during the initial meeting, or when dickering over the price. Just because a girl is selling herself doesn't mean she doesn't have feelings. Given the choice she'd rather go with the guy who treats her nice, rather than the guy who treats her like a piece of meat.
The older guys are more appreciative, less rushed, less demanding, and less likely to treat them like a pro.
These same qualities also work well with non-pros, especially outside the US, where an older man with a younger woman is more widely accepted.I wrote almost exactly your post about a year ago, but I don't find what Forcesteeler said contradicted our views. It actually augments them.
Because there are as many reasons why some chicas will prefer an older man, as there are chicas.
Ath Trainer
07-31-15, 13:33
Head out about 930 last night. Stroll the strip, still slow. Head to Rumba. Get a beer, and sit and watch Canadian foitball on the big screen. Plenty of chicas, but very few even worth looking at. Finish my beer, its now after 1100. Head down towards Classicos. Quality of girls is much better. At one point, I see some police. Girls go scattering into the bars, like roaches when you turn on a light. I'm leaning against the wall, taking in the sights. A chica approaches, who I already turned down. She's trying, one more time, and is rubbing up against me. I have my guard up, with my left hand in my peso pocket.
She leaves, and I'm immediately groped, aggressively, by a sloppy chica. She's not dressed up, and has a beer belly most of my friends would not be seen in. I push her away, and she comes back at me, sticking her butt in my crotch. I push her off, and she gets mad. I go to check my peso pocket, and its empty. I accuse her, and she says it was the girl before me.
So, what do I do? I can't prove it was her. There was the girl, right before her, but my hand stayed in my pocket the entire time. The girl who probably took it, looks rough, I'm in a foreign country, and speak very little Spanish. I decide to cut my losses, and get out of there.
It wasn't much money, but was more than I should have had on me. Chica money could have stayed in the room. It happened in a split second, never saw it coming. Never felt it happened. She was a pro. The grope distracted me, followed by the scuffle to change the topic. Most probably dontbnoticenthe money missing that quick. She attacked right after the first girl, to use her as an alibi. Doubt they were together, since first girl approached in Rumba earlier.
There's definitely such a thing as free (unless you count time spent on the encounter as a cost). When I was 35 and younger, I got lots of girls for free in the USA And I'm sure many of my monger brothers on here did the same. Girls like to fuck also and if they find a guy attractive for whatever reason, many will fuck just for the enjoyment of it.
Don't tell me you never went on Spring Break and fucked a chick or two from across the country, both parties knowing nothing would come of it.
Alas, if you're my age (51), the only girls you can get for free in the USA are about 40 year old and up. That's where this mongering thing comes into play!Context is everything. I never paid for sex before I turned 50. No need to do so. But if you are over 50 and the woman is attractive and under 25 there is always a quid pro quo. It could be cash for sex, ongoing financial support, a nice apartment, marriage, visa. Always something. And if you are poor you will not get it. I know a poor guy right now who is "dating" a female prison inmate. She is young and attractive, but I would not touch her with a 50 foot sterilized bargepole, and I would not count on his prospects when she gets out.
There is always a cost, especially when it appears to be free.
I wrote almost exactly your post about a year ago, but I don't find what Forcesteeler said contradicted our views. It actually augments them.
Because there are as many reasons why some chicas will prefer an older man, as there are chicas.Older men fuck better. Some of the youngsters are so wet behind the ears that they believe porn is real.
I have been mongering for 5 Years and I'm a young guy (32 Years old) and most hookers prefer older men like 50 Years+. They like older men because it's a better chance of having a relationship or aka Western Union Novio. Younger crowd are usually sport fuckers and it's much harder to extract money because most young guys are not established like older men. Now if your trying to get a Non-Pro or trying to get pussy for free, Then these kind of girls prefer a more younger guy. A Non-Pro in the Dominican Republic does not want to walk around with a 50 year old Gringo as most people will think she is a hooker. She would prefer someone close to her age to kinda blend in and not get stares when she walks through the mall. But even older guys 50+ year still have a chance, you just have to tailor your game into which you don't make a Non-Pro feel like a hooker. I know I just contradicted myself but the main thing is if your a older guy expect to spend money where a guy that is 25-29 Years old or younger can get it for free.Have seen some good input on this theme, and would like to reaffirm and add to them.
Older vs. Younger men in P4 P context.
The guy with a little gray is likely more established, better off financially; more likely to treat the girl better than the 30 yr old who wants to nickel and dime her, ideally trying to jackhammer her all night in exchange for a meal.
Older guy less likely to to try to play out the hip-hop fantasy of "breaking a worthless ho" and treat her with some courtesy, etc.
(Once watched two younger types at breakfast at BB, laughing about last night's exploits while the chica (a very sweet girl) sat patiently by the flower planter waiting to be paid so she could go home. (Do you think Mr Player offered her a little breakfast? Hell no).
A more mature man may go for quality vs quantity, and take more time; less time trying to punch a hole in her uterus.
Also more likely to appreciate some sleep time, where a younger guy, fired up on Red Bull and Cialis, will try to hammer the girl till 3 am.
The age difference thing is true to a degree. But the context of where you are affects that.
My novia is about 25 years younger than I, and we've been together, on and off for about 8 years.
We get the occasional glance from people, but I notice that more than she does.
Frankly, when we're together at the supermarket, or at a hardware store, it looks more "normal" and domestic than in a tourist area.
In my opinion, the younger guy who acts more "mature" in the sense of treating the girls with a little courtesy and acts like a gentleman instead of a junior pimp, will be sought after wherever he goes.
(And the girls he is with will usually be more responsive and enthusiastic).
You and the girl both know the situation, but allow both to enjoy the illusion that money is not involved.
Of course this depends on the girl, but when the chemistry is right, it far surpasses the usual Sosua quickie.
Head out about 930 last night. Stroll the strip, still slow. Head to Rumba. Get a beer, and sit and watch Canadian foitball on the big screen. Plenty of chicas, but very few even worth looking at. Finish my beer, its now after 1100. Head down towards Classicos. Quality of girls is much better. At one point, I see some police. Girls go scattering into the bars, like roaches when you turn on a light. I'm leaning against the wall, taking in the sights. A chica approaches, who I already turned down. She's trying, one more time, and is rubbing up against me. I have my guard up, with my left hand in my peso pocket.
She leaves, and I'm immediately groped, aggressively, by a sloppy chica. She's not dressed up, and has a beer belly most of my friends would not be seen in. I push her away, and she comes back at me, sticking her butt in my crotch. I push her off, and she gets mad. I go to check my peso pocket, and its empty. I accuse her, and she says it was the girl before me.
So, what do I do? I can't prove it was her. There was the girl, right before her, but my hand stayed in my pocket the entire time. The girl who probably took it, looks rough, I'm in a foreign country, and speak very little Spanish. I decide to cut my losses, and get out of there.
It wasn't much money, but was more than I should have had on me. Chica money could have stayed in the room. It happened in a split second, never saw it coming. Never felt it happened. She was a pro. The grope distracted me, followed by the scuffle to change the topic. Most probably dontbnoticenthe money missing that quick. She attacked right after the first girl, to use her as an alibi. Doubt they were together, since first girl approached in Rumba earlier.That totally sucks, but it just shows that one should always be cautious and try to get away from aggressive chicas like this. It reminds me of a similar situation I faced the last time I was in Sosua. Was walking to my hotel by myself, it was after 2 AM I think and I was on the opposite side of the road from where Bailey's is (that split road area, where you can walk through that has a couple benches to sit down). Saw a group of 3 or 4 chicas approaching and they stopped me as I was trying to walk by and two started to grope me. One spoke very decent english, and I've seen her around Sosua. Her name is Vicky, and is from Santo Domingo. First time I saw her was at the corner bar (Bermuda) from Rumba's, she was clearly a pro and tried to get me to a buy her a drink despite telling her no several times. Thankfully I didn't lose anything that night I ran into her on the street walking to my hotel, but I'd consider myself lucky to get her off me and continue walking without being followed. It was late, all other bars and restaurants were closed in that area, and it was dark. Couldn't hear any cars, motos, or other people walking around either.
i have been mongering for over 25+ years and the first rule of mongering is to never believe anything working girl / prostitute tells .How long? And how old were you when you started?
I have been mongering for 5 Years and I'm a young guy (32 Years old) ...How long? And how old were you when you started?
Head out about 930 last night. Stroll the strip, still slow. Head to Rumba. Get a beer, and sit and watch Canadian foitball on the big screen. Plenty of chicas, but very few even worth looking at. Finish my beer, its now after 1100. Head down towards Classicos. Quality of girls is much better. At one point, I see some police. Girls go scattering into the bars, like roaches when you turn on a light. I'm leaning against the wall, taking in the sights. A chica approaches, who I already turned down. She's trying, one more time, and is rubbing up against me. I have my guard up, with my left hand in my peso pocket.
She leaves, and I'm immediately groped, aggressively, by a sloppy chica. She's not dressed up, and has a beer belly most of my friends would not be seen in. I push her away, and she comes back at me, sticking her butt in my crotch. I push her off, and she gets mad. I go to check my peso pocket, and its empty. I accuse her, and she says it was the girl before me.
So, what do I do? I can't prove it was her. There was the girl, right before her, but my hand stayed in my pocket the entire time. The girl who probably took it, looks rough, I'm in a foreign country, and speak very little Spanish. I decide to cut my losses, and get out of there.
It wasn't much money, but was more than I should have had on me. Chica money could have stayed in the room. It happened in a split second, never saw it coming. Never felt it happened. She was a pro. The grope distracted me, followed by the scuffle to change the topic. Most probably dontbnoticenthe money missing that quick. She attacked right after the first girl, to use her as an alibi. Doubt they were together, since first girl approached in Rumba earlier.I've never been picked wearing cargo pants with side zip pockets at the lower thigh. Its more difficult for thieves to get at the money there.
How long? And how old were you when you started?Clearly the man is in possession of a time machine. He is always 32 years old and has been mongering for 1000's of years. It's sometimes difficult to keep track.
He's got me confused. I thought the first rule of mongering was never pay a girl who has a bigger Adams apple than you. Or maybe it was, don't let the little head overrule the big head. Then again I seem to recall something about never do working girl with open sores.
"Never believe anything working girl / prostitute tells you" seems like a silly first rule. If she tells you she wants to have sex with you, you shouldn't believe her? If she says 1500 pesos is fine, do you call her a liar and give her 3000? Maybe we can change the first rule to something like:
"Sometimes you shouldn't believe everything you are told by everyone, especially if they can't remember whether they started mongering at 7 years old or 27 years old."
Tempoecorto
08-01-15, 01:46
How long? And how old were you when you started?Whoa. Do you have an elephant's memory Frannie? I would never think of this. LOL. The 7 year, ahem 32 year or is it 57 year old has a lot of experiences dealing with prostitutes. No wonder he is so certain of his beliefs about such fallen women.
Tempoecorto
08-01-15, 02:07
I'm going to have to call nonsense on this one too.A good call too!
I liked your thoughts and I agree with all but I have one contrarian thought. There are assholes who are young just as much there are assholes that are old / older. Treating women with respect, no matter what they do for a living is something that is a learned behavior and if you have not seen such example in your young age, it would not come to you, younger or older.
Head out about 930 last night. Stroll the strip, still slow. Head to Rumba. Get a beer, and sit and watch Canadian foitball on the big screen. Plenty of chicas, but very few even worth looking at. Finish my beer, its now after 1100. Head down towards Classicos. Quality of girls is much better. At one point, I see some police. Girls go scattering into the bars, like roaches when you turn on a light. I'm leaning against the wall, taking in the sights. A chica approaches, who I already turned down. She's trying, one more time, and is rubbing up against me. I have my guard up, with my left hand in my peso pocket.
She leaves, and I'm immediately groped, aggressively, by a sloppy chica. She's not dressed up, and has a beer belly most of my friends would not be seen in. I push her away, and she comes back at me, sticking her butt in my crotch. I push her off, and she gets mad. I go to check my peso pocket, and its empty. I accuse her, and she says it was the girl before me.
So, what do I do? I can't prove it was her. There was the girl, right before her, but my hand stayed in my pocket the entire time. The girl who probably took it, looks rough, I'm in a foreign country, and speak very little Spanish. I decide to cut my losses, and get out of there.
It wasn't much money, but was more than I should have had on me. Chica money could have stayed in the room. It happened in a split second, never saw it coming. Never felt it happened. She was a pro. The grope distracted me, followed by the scuffle to change the topic. Most probably dontbnoticenthe money missing that quick. She attacked right after the first girl, to use her as an alibi. Doubt they were together, since first girl approached in Rumba earlier.Love it!
You know, it's like watching a great throw, or an end zone catch, you have to give them credit! It's real artistry!
I had a couple of girls in my car in Lauderdale. My wallet was in my back pocket and I had my hand on it at all times, well, mostly, LOL.
I dumped the girls, but it wasn't until I got to a bar did I realize that somehow they had taken the $400 I had out of the wallet and put the wallet back in my back pocket. .
If you ever get a chance to watch scam city of youtube you will see most of the bigger cities the biggest scams involve pick pocking. They are many pros. The second is taxis. LOL.
Radpoker.
Ken_Apples
08-01-15, 08:23
You and the girl both know the situation, but allow both to enjoy the illusion that money is not involved.
There is a word for this. It is called Marriage! LOL.
Cheers, Ken Apples.
Love it!
You know, it's like watching a great throw, or an end zone catch, you have to give them credit! It's real artistry!
I had a couple of girls in my car in Lauderdale. My wallet was in my back pocket and I had my hand on it at all times, well, mostly, LOL.
I dumped the girls, but it wasn't until I got to a bar did I realize that somehow they had taken the $400 I had out of the wallet and put the wallet back in my back pocket. .1. When you go to any foreign country change dollars into local currency.
2. It does not matter if you are into mongering or just a tourist.
3. Lock all valuable things you have including wallet in room safe.
4. Carry only enough local currency to cover your activities including drinks and food.
5. Never carry dollars. You do not need it.
6. Never get too drunk.
7. Not all girls are thieves. But given a choice they will steal.
8. Even if you are a victim, you will loose less money in local currency.
9. Once you are in the room with a girl, lock your left over currency in the safe. You can always get money to pay the girl from the safe when she leaves. I learned the hard way long time ago when one of my regulars stole 3000 pesos from my pocket when I was asleep. So I do not trust anybody anymore. Does not matter who she is.
10. If you are a victim, your whole mood is foiled not just because you lost money but a bad feeling that you cannot trust anybody.
I've never been picked wearing cargo pants with side zip pockets at the lower thigh. Its more difficult for thieves to get at the money there.Definitely second that. It's the easiest way to prevent pickpocketing.
Of course, I follow the other rules too, but you do have to always carry at least some cash, and one credit card. This doesn't prevent theft completely. If you flash a bunch of hundred dollar bills in public, they WILL go after you. But its like one of those bars across the steering wheel, or the ulock bicycle locks. Its not that it can't be done, but rather, the thief just goes after easier targets. I keep my wallet in the left thigh pocket, and my cell phone in the right. Since first being pickpocketed in France a long time ago, I have never been a victim again.
Just get one of those convertible cargo pants that can be turned into shorts. Of course, you won't get into high end bars or clubs. But for most venues, it will do.
Ath Trainer
08-01-15, 19:34
1. When you go to any foreign country change dollars into local currency.
2. It does not matter if you are into mongering or just a tourist.
3. Lock all valuable things you have including wallet in room safe.
4. Carry only enough local currency to cover your activities including drinks and food.
5. Never carry dollars. You do not need it.
6. Never get too drunk.
7. Not all girls are thieves. But given a choice they will steal.
8. Even if you are a victim, you will loose less money in local currency.
9. Once you are in the room with a girl, lock your left over currency in the safe. You can always get money to pay the girl from the safe when she leaves. I learned the hard way long time ago when one of my regulars stole 3000 pesos from my pocket when I was asleep. So I do not trust anybody anymore. Does not matter who she is.
10. If you are a victim, your whole mood is foiled not just because you lost money but a bad feeling that you cannot trust anybody.Cell phone was in my right, front pocket. Money / pesos were in my left, front, with my hand. When she initially bumped me, I must have taken my hqnd out, in reaction. As the scuffle continued, I had a feeling to check my pocket. The money was gone that quickly. My biggest regret was carrying more than I needed. It wasnt a lot, but should have been less.
Cell phone was in my right, front pocket. I don't carry a wallet, even at home. CC and other shit with money wrapped around but when I travel I put a few clean rubber bands around the bunch. Clean rubber bands grab the fabric in the pocket making it very difficult to get a clean pick. The have to be clean and tacky though.
NewbieMonger23
08-02-15, 00:58
Hello everybody,
I'm a 24 year old with some money to spend. Want to go on a trip and 3 destinations that have caught my eye are DR, Thailand and Germany. If it makes any difference I'm black and just want some sort of feedback from you guys. I'm posting here as my first post because I think DR is where I will end up going. I don't speak a word of Spanish so was considering going to Blackbeards for about 10 days and bringing like 2500 US. Any tips on my plan or any feedback would be great. I'm thinking of doing my trip in the wintertime January or Feb.
Newbiemonger23
Charles Pooter
08-02-15, 01:39
... you do have to always carry ... one credit card ...Why?
I can understand if you are out for a day's drive or shopping in a city, but for an evening on the town in Sosua, why would you need a credit or debit card?
Incidentally, looking at posts from time to time on DR1, I note that many experienced ex-pats will not use cards in this country other than at the teller counter in banks. The incidence of card fraud is very high in the DR. Not only by Dominicans but by foreign professional gangs with IT expertise. Scams occur not only at point of sale or at the ATM but also somewhere during the processing.
3 destinations that have caught my eye are DR, Thailand and Germany. If it makes any difference I'm black
Newbiemonger23You will have racial issues in Thailand and with no Spanish and plenty of money, you should go to Germany.
NewbieMonger23
08-02-15, 02:48
You will have racial issues in Thailand and with no Spanish and plenty of money, you should go to Germany.Dickhead,
Thanks for the feedback. I was considering the folks I just heard a place in Puerto Plata called Black Beards catered to people with very little Spanish. Reason I was leaning to DR is because it will be in Jan. Or Feb. Time which would equal woman and sunshine as opposed to just women in Germany. Have you ever been to a FKK and how would you compare that to the DR?
Charles Pooter
08-02-15, 04:33
You will have racial issues in Thailand and with no Spanish and plenty of money, you should go to Germany.He is making the trip in Jan or Feb.
Germany is fucking cold at that time. Sure, life goes on as normal, but one of the advantages of the DR during those months is the very pleasant weather so he could have fun indoors or outdoors.
Food and accommodation at Blackbeards is about US $100 a day. That leaves him RD $6500 a day for sex and incidentals. One ST and one TLN per 24 hours with money left over for other expenses.
Not a generous budget (he does not have "plenty of money" as Dickhead suggests) but doable if he does not drink much. If he does drink, he would need to cut out the TLNs to save money and make it 2 x ST per day.
He could have a slightly more economical trip by going to Sosua, but I think Blackbeards is a wise choice for someone on a first trip with no Spanish. He cannot afford to buy meals and presents for chicas, and a good thing too in my opinion. Best to start off as a tightwad. He can always loosen the purse-strings later if well within budget, but harder to tighten up if he starts off by being too generous.
Even though he has a budget of US$2500 and will wisely stick to it, he needs access to further cash in the very unlikely event of some emergency (especially a medical emergency). I don't want to alarm him as 99% of trips pass off without problems, but better safe than sorry.
No racial issues at Blackbeards.
If he is only fucking two chicas per 24 hours, he is going to have plenty of time on his hands, and not much money for excursions or taxis to get off campus. I hope therefore he likes reading and swimming. I would suggest bringing an elementary Spanish primer. I would also suggest he starts learning Spanish now. He has five or six months to learn some common phrases and (most important) the numerals. Even a tiny bit of Spanish will lubricate things socially.
Ath Trainer
08-02-15, 04:41
Hello everybody,
I'm a 24 year old with some money to spend. Want to go on a trip and 3 destinations that have caught my eye are DR, Thailand and Germany. If it makes any difference I'm black and just want some sort of feedback from you guys. I'm posting here as my first post because I think DR is where I will end up going. I don't speak a word of Spanish so was considering going to Blackbeards for about 10 days and bringing like 2500 US. Any tips on my plan or any feedback would be great. I'm thinking of doing my trip in the wintertime January or Feb.
Newbiemonger23If you want dark skinned girls, your in the right place. Blackbeards, is the rookie league. Like shooting fish in a barrel. Sosua, a little more complicated, but you could survive without spanish, but more of a challenge, and limiting at times.
Thailand, is going to be Asian girls. Can't speak about if theres a language issue. Germany, is going to be mostly Euro girls. Again, not sure of the language issues.
If this is your first time traveling out of the country, and, you are traveling solo, Blackbeards may be the choice. You get on the plane, get off in Puerto Plata, get a taxi to Blackbeards, enjoy your stay, go back to the airport, and go home.
He is making the trip in Jan or Feb.
Germany is fucking cold at that time. Sure, life goes on as normal, but one of the advantages of the DR during those months is the very pleasant weather so he could have fun indoors or outdoors.
Food and accommodation at Blackbeards is about US $100 a day (please adjust to a more accurate figure if necessary, you Barba Negra fanboys). That leaves him RD $6500 a day for sex and incidentals. One ST and one TLN per day / night with money left over for other expenses.
Not a generous budget (he does not have "plenty of money" as Dickhead suggests) but doable if he does not drink much. If he does drink, he would need to cut out the TLNs to save money and make it 2 x ST per day.
He could have a slightly more economical trip by going to Sosua, but I think Blackbeards is a wise choice for someone on a first trip with no Spanish. He cannot afford to buy meals and presents for chicas, and a good thing too in my opinion. Best to start off as a tightwad. He can always loosen the purse-strings later if well within budget, but harder to tighten up if he starts off by being too generous.
No racial issues at Blackbeards.
If he is only fucking two chicas per 24 hours, he is going to have plenty of time on his hands, and not much money for excursions or taxis to get off campus. I hope therefore he likes reading and swimming. I would suggest bringing an elementary Spanish primer. I would also suggest he starts learning Spanish now. He has five or six months to learn some common phrases and (most important) the numerals. Even a tiny bit of Spanish will lubricate things socially.I'm not really sure if he can take 10 days at Blackbeard's. That's a long time with not much to do, except for the obvious. I'd suggest 5 to 7 days at the most, then spend a few days in Sosua. He's got 5 months, he can pick up a Spanish learning course and learn the basics before his trip.
Charles Pooter
08-02-15, 04:58
If you want dark skinned girls, your in the right place.It is funny you wrote that, because I live in Puerto Plata, and on the rare occasions I go to Blackbeards to meet visiting friends, I look at the chicas there and think, "Yes, some attractive girls, but all too light-skinned for me".
Not contradicting you, AT, just pointing out it is all relative.
NewbieMonger23
08-02-15, 05:23
Wow thanks for the quick an informative feedback Charles Pooter and everybody else. Because of the time of year I also feel DR is the best choice specifically Blackbeard because of my lack of Spanish. Honestly I'm not much of a drinker maybe a few drinks here and there get some for the ladies once in awhile. My budget is not tight I could bring 3000 I said 2500 because I thought 180 a day would be plenty. Around 50 for ST and 80 LT still leaves me with 50 dollars for food and drink. Remaining 700 is hotel for the trip. Only bummer is I'm in Canada and our dollar was on par with the USA Just 3 years ago now it's a measly. 76 . Nevertheless this is something I hope will be fun and would love any tips or feedback!
Thanks.
Dickhead,
Thanks for the feedback. I was considering the folks I just heard a place in Puerto Plata called Black Beards catered to people with very little Spanish. Reason I was leaning to DR is because it will be in Jan. Or Feb. Time which would equal woman and sunshine as opposed to just women in Germany. Have you ever been to a FKK and how would you compare that to the DR?I good question to ask would be, what type of women do you prefer?
You should definitely visit Germany eventually. But Germany in January is a bad idea. Think Michigan.
January is a great time to visit Thailand. You may encounter some racial bias, but not anything insurmountable with some effort. Think about it from their point of view. They live in a racial homogeneous country. Their ideas of African Americans are from movies, what gets reported in the news, and American GI's on leave, partying in Thailand. BTW, you will encounter the same bias from men. Except for England, there are no countries as diverse as the US. You will probably encounter some initial lookover everywhere you go. But if you smile, chat and show that you are a normal guy, and that you have money, most of the time the tension just disappears.
Especially if you have never been, the northern coast of DR in January is a great vacation. Fun and sun. Lots of outdoor type things to do. Its close to the US. Its the cheapest Caribbean destination (after Haiti). Lots of night time fun to be had. I don't know how long you have, but I would recommend staying at BB until you get bored, then move on to Sosua or Cabarete. The DR is cheap enough that you can make decisions about hotels on the fly. And don't listen to all the "rookie" banter. That's just nonsense. As for language, you'll have lots more fun if you can speak spanish, but its not essential. Pick up a phrase book or study the appendix section in Lonely Planet and you'll be fine. Green is the only important language, for anything. Also, with your $2500 budget, the DR is your best option.
Hello everybody,
I'm a 24 year old with some money to spend. Want to go on a trip and 3 destinations that have caught my eye are DR, Thailand and Germany. If it makes any difference I'm black and just want some sort of feedback from you guys. I'm posting here as my first post because I think DR is where I will end up going. I don't speak a word of Spanish so was considering going to Blackbeards for about 10 days and bringing like 2500 US. Any tips on my plan or any feedback would be great. I'm thinking of doing my trip in the wintertime January or Feb.
Newbiemonger23For a first visit Germany would be ideal for him. Forget the weather, he is going to monger not beachcomb. There are indeed the race issues in Thailand. I am there now and see African American dudes hand in hand with Thai babes but seeing how many Thai hookers especially the gorgeous ones rush towards the Japanese, Korean and Chinese punters nearly trampling over farangs I would say it would not be the best for an African American newbie, perhaps after some experience in the mongering business he could chance it and in that respect I would suggest the Philippines over Thailand.
In terms of the Dominican Republic I would advise to forget it. I don't think Sosua is a good introduction into mongering especially if he can afford to do better. For me I go to Sosua as much for the beach activities as for the mongering. If I want to sunbathe why not go to a place where I can get laid easily as well? Leave Blackbeards for a short trip such as a holiday weekend or when getting a few days off from work. Go to Frankfurt and visit an FKK every day. You will think you are in heaven surrounded by dozens of hot naked ladies and just having to point and beckon seconds before pounding a juicy orifice.
NewbieMonger23
08-02-15, 07:20
For a first visit Germany would be ideal for him. Forget the weather, he is going to monger not beachcomb. There are indeed the race issues in Thailand. I am there now and see African American dudes hand in hand with Thai babes but seeing how many Thai hookers especially the gorgeous ones rush towards the Japanese, Korean and Chinese punters nearly trampling over farangs I would say it would not be the best for an African American newbie, perhaps after some experience in the mongering business he could chance it and in that respect I would suggest the Philippines over Thailand.
In terms of the Dominican Republic I would advise to forget it. I don't think Sosua is a good introduction into mongering especially if he can afford to do better. For me I go to Sosua as much for the beach activities as for the mongering. If I want to sunbathe why not go to a place where I can get laid easily as well? Leave Blackbeards for a short trip such as a holiday weekend or when getting a few days off from work. Go to Frankfurt and visit an FKK every day. You will think you are in heaven surrounded by dozens of hot naked ladies and just having to point and beckon seconds before pounding a juicy orifice.Turgid I appreciate the advise and you Guys have really narrowed it down for me. Thailand is off the list. DR was my main choice because it's closer it's cheap and it's warmer. I don't have a preference in woman I enjoy Spanish and black girls I would see in DR thick and slim and would enjoy Germany as well. I plan on doing annual trips but I wanted my first trip to be memorable and FKK or Blackbeard will def be where I go.
Hello everybody,
I'm a 24 year old with some money to spend. Want to go on a trip and 3 destinations that have caught my eye are DR, Thailand and Germany. If it makes any difference I'm black and just want some sort of feedback from you guys. I'm posting here as my first post because I think DR is where I will end up going. I don't speak a word of Spanish so was considering going to Blackbeards for about 10 days and bringing like 2500 US. Any tips on my plan or any feedback would be great. I'm thinking of doing my trip in the wintertime January or Feb.
Newbiemonger23Do yourself a favor, forget Blackbeards and go to Sosua!
Sunny, warm, short flight, cheap food and lodging. Ssmall central area where all the action happens, bars, clubs, restaurants, music, lots of beautiful and cheap girls, and you don't have to look for them, they find you.
Spanish not necessary, and you'll come home with money left over to do it again, soon.
ForceSteeler
08-02-15, 12:41
You will have racial issues in Thailand and with no Spanish and plenty of money, you should go to Germany.
Hello everybody,
I'm a 24 year old with some money to spend. Want to go on a trip and 3 destinations that have caught my eye are DR, Thailand and Germany. If it makes any difference I'm black and just want some sort of feedback from you guys. I'm posting here as my first post because I think DR is where I will end up going. I don't speak a word of Spanish so was considering going to Blackbeards for about 10 days and bringing like 2500 US. Any tips on my plan or any feedback would be great. I'm thinking of doing my trip in the wintertime January or Feb.
Newbiemonger23You should go to Sosua, no Spanish is needed, the only thing you need is your wallet full of cash. As for Thailand they love Blacks from american, I know Thai women and Filipino (Angeles City Philippines) do not like Indians, Malayasians, Africans (Nigerians) because they are known to be cheap and sometimes disrespectful. So if your dark skin, they might think your African and you might not get play. But once you talk with your American accent, the girls will go wild. The girls love hip hop culture, when you go to the bar all they play is hip-hop music. As for Germany, I never been but will like to go someday, all I keep hearing about is the FKKs.
Hello everybody,
I'm a 24 year old with some money to spend. Want to go on a trip and 3 destinations that have caught my eye are DR, Thailand and Germany. If it makes any difference I'm black and just want some sort of feedback from you guys. I'm posting here as my first post because I think DR is where I will end up going. I don't speak a word of Spanish so was considering going to Blackbeards for about 10 days and bringing like 2500 US. Any tips on my plan or any feedback would be great. I'm thinking of doing my trip in the wintertime January or Feb.
Newbiemonger23IMHO a 24 yr old can get any young girl he wants if he is savvy. Why get into mongering world? I would suggest get on American dating sites, get a nice girl and take her to any of the islands for vacation.
If you still want to go for the hookers, there are plenty of options. One option is Brazil. No race issues there.
There are race issues anywhere. Some girls do not care while others are selective. Any of your chosen destinations are OK. Sosua is loaded with African American punters.
ForceSteeler
08-02-15, 14:32
IMHO a 24 yr old can get any young girl he wants if he is savvy. Why get into mongering world? I would suggest get on American dating sites, get a nice girl and take her to any of the islands for vacation.
If you still want to go for the hookers, there are plenty of options. One option is Brazil. No race issues there.
There are race issues anywhere. Some girls do not care while others are selective. Any of your chosen destinations are OK. Sosua is loaded with African American punters.Well I started mongering at 25 Years old and its the best decision of my life. It really taught me what being a man is about. I also suggest getting all the fucking out of your system that way when you ready to get married and settle down, You won't care about cheating as much like that. I would have hate finding out about mongering at the age of 50. You will be more depressed and have regrets that you did not find out about the lifestyle sooner.
I have been to FKK Samya in Cologne and also DR for the first time in June 2015. The FKK was fun. A great way to spend an afternoon or evening. Banged some big titted Romanian girl that was good to me. The food and beer was good, too. As for DR, I went to Santo Domingo, Santiago and Sosua. I don't speak much Spanish but I did ok. I would recommend Blackbeards for first time visit even though I did not go there. I had two nice, busty chicas in Sosua but I think it would have been cheaper in Blackbeards. If you like big boobs, Germany and Dominican Republic has got them although it will be more expensive in Germany. Don't go to Germany in winter
Have you ever been to a FKK and how would you compare that to the DR?.
To add to my previous response, if it were me it would be BKK hands down. Or even better PI. I did not see too many blacks in BKK tho and I did see I sign at a bar there that said no blacks but it might have been the only one. The Thai girls are great, cheaper than frauleins and dominicanas. The best bang for the buck is PI, tho. The girls are great and they speak English! I didn't see too may black people in the PI, tho. Good luck. Let us know what you decide and give a report upon return.
Hello everybody,
3 destinations that have caught my eye are DR, Thailand and Germany.
Newbiemonger23.
The DR is close and cheap. The flight to Thailand cost more then a week in the DR. As most black guys like thick women Asian women rarely do it for me. Sure every now and then you can find a big back girl but that is the exception. Germany is the home of the modern skin head movement. If you have a lot of money sure do Rio but your trip will cost twice for the same number of days in the DR. Do Sosua and sport fuck to your hearts content. Enjoy the beach. Women and fellow mongers. I think it is a no brainers. You will have A ball.
Do yourself a favor, forget Blackbeards and go to Sosua!
Sunny, warm, short flight, cheap food and lodging. Ssmall central area where all the action happens, bars, clubs, restaurants, music, lots of beautiful and cheap girls, and you don't have to look for them, they find you.
Spanish not necessary, and you'll come home with money left over to do it again, soon.
... Germany is the home of the modern skin head movement...I think its safer for black people in Germany than in the United States. I haven't heard of black people being killed in Germany. Frankfurt, for example, is a multi-cultural city with many Africans, Middle Easterners and other ethnicities.
Hello everybody,
I'm a 24 year old with some money to spend. Want to go on a trip and 3 destinations that have caught my eye are DR, Thailand and Germany. If it makes any difference I'm black and just want some sort of feedback from you guys. I'm posting here as my first post because I think DR is where I will end up going. I don't speak a word of Spanish so was considering going to Blackbeards for about 10 days and bringing like 2500 US. Any tips on my plan or any feedback would be great. I'm thinking of doing my trip in the wintertime January or Feb.
Newbiemonger23I have lived in Germany, and have visited the DR. Sorry, no Thai experience (in Thailand).
I would recommend DR, for cost, women, convenience.
Germany, though not as far as Thailand, is still a long trip. The cost of women there is higher as well, though you might enjoy it. Plane fare to Europe or Asia is far more costly.
Figure twelve hours to Europe, even more to Thailand.
The DR is just two hours from Miami. Though I don't know your taste, I suspect you'd like the women as well.
Especially for a first visit, I recommend Blackbeard's.
The controlled atmosphere and quality control will save you some hard "lessons learned" elsewhere.
No thieves, druggies, scams, etc, and if you have a problem, there is someone to complain to. On the streets, its all on you. The prices are already set, there is a "mama-san" on site to assist if needed, and lack of Spanish is not a problem.
The girls also get monthly medical checks. Though monthly checks for disease are not a perfect solution, its more than the chicas in Sosua can offer.
If you want to explore the area, fine.
Or, if you wanted to, you could spent the entire time on site, in the pool, at the bar, in the jacuzzi, having several girls a day, rather than spending your time cruising the streets, looking for women.
I also have no problem with the idea of "shooting fish in a barrel. " I go there for sex, not looking for a "challenge. "
If you want to spend your day on the boat "fishing," that's great, enjoy.
If you want to spend your day eating seafood, not trolling for fish, that is also YOUR choice.
When I visit the DR, I have limited time, and don't want to waste my time trolling the streets or bars looking, when I can have access to a pre-screened collection of women within arm's reach. On the streets, when you get a chica back to your hotel, you may have a great time, or a lousy time, with little recourse but to tell her to leave (hopefully with no argument over money). At BB, no such problems. Trouble makers are barred and the girls don't want that, so they are motivated. Discuss what you want beforehand, etc, and you should have no misunderstandings. Services provided and prices are pretty standardized.
Or if you feel the need for "bonding" with your peers, the bar area is very conducive to conversation with guys there for the same reason you are.
Oh, and in Sosua, you are going back and forth from the bars back to your hotel with your chica. At BB, its a walk of two minutes from the pool/bar area to your room. Much more convenient in my opinion.
I have been to Sosua as well, but it wasn't for me.
Ten days? In one location that would be overkill.
Suggest you go to to Blackbeards for the first half, then maybe to Sosua, so you can experience both.
For a sneak peek, look up Blackbeards website and sign up for their newsletter; it provides pics of the girls, location, etc.
He is making the trip in Jan or Feb.
Germany is fucking cold at that time. Sure, life goes on as normal, but one of the advantages of the DR during those months is the very pleasant weather so he could have fun indoors or outdoors.
Food and accommodation at Blackbeards is about US $100 a day. That leaves him RD $6500 a day for sex and incidentals. One ST and one TLN per 24 hours with money left over for other expenses.
Not a generous budget (he does not have "plenty of money" as Dickhead suggests) but doable if he does not drink much. If he does drink, he would need to cut out the TLNs to save money and make it 2 x ST per day.
He could have a slightly more economical trip by going to Sosua, but I think Blackbeards is a wise choice for someone on a first trip with no Spanish. He cannot afford to buy meals and presents for chicas, and a good thing too in my opinion. Best to start off as a tightwad. He can always loosen the purse-strings later if well within budget, but harder to tighten up if he starts off by being too generous.
Even though he has a budget of US$2500 and will wisely stick to it, he needs access to further cash in the very unlikely event of some emergency (especially a medical emergency). I don't want to alarm him as 99% of trips pass off without problems, but better safe than sorry.
No racial issues at Blackbeards.
If he is only fucking two chicas per 24 hours, he is going to have plenty of time on his hands, and not much money for excursions or taxis to get off campus. I hope therefore he likes reading and swimming. I would suggest bringing an elementary Spanish primer. I would also suggest he starts learning Spanish now. He has five or six months to learn some common phrases and (most important) the numerals. Even a tiny bit of Spanish will lubricate things socially.To add to Sir Charles, depending on you, if you walk to the beach in Costambar (where BB is located) its 5 minutes from BB, and very nice. Almost deserted during the week. I have rented a "recliner", bought a beer, and set myself down under a palm tree with a cigar, and not another person on the beach. (If a young man of 24 could enjoy that sort of tranquility).
Turgid I appreciate the advise and you Guys have really narrowed it down for me. Thailand is off the list. DR was my main choice because it's closer it's cheap and it's warmer. I don't have a preference in woman I enjoy Spanish and black girls I would see in DR thick and slim and would enjoy Germany as well. I plan on doing annual trips but I wanted my first trip to be memorable and FKK or Blackbeard will def be where I go.A couple more points of emphasis.
1. The girls at BB are tested. At FKKs, and most of Thailand, they are not.
2. $2500 just isn't enough for Germany. You'll be spending $100 MINIMUM for a hotel room, probably more. Western Europe is MORE expensive than the US. In FKK's, admission price plus two drinks is about $80. If you count your Taxi rides to and from the FKK, that's $100 per night, and you haven't even had any fun yet. Count on spending about $200 total daily at FKK's. Even not considering the weather (which WILL suck BAD), there is so much fun tourist and historical stuff to do in Germany that you are better off waiting to go until you are at a point in your life when you have more disposable income.
NewbieMonger23
08-02-15, 20:17
A couple more points of emphasis.
1. The girls at BB are tested. At FKKs, and most of Thailand, they are not.
2. $2500 just isn't enough for Germany. You'll be spending $100 MINIMUM for a hotel room, probably more. Western Europe is MORE expensive than the US. In FKK's, admission price plus two drinks is about $80. If you count your Taxi rides to and from the FKK, that's $100 per night, and you haven't even had any fun yet. Count on spending about $200 total daily at FKK's. Even not considering the weather (which WILL suck BAD), there is so much fun tourist and historical stuff to do in Germany that you are better off waiting to go until you are at a point in your life when you have more disposable income.Yanqui, Manny and everybody else who responded thank you! Blackboards seems like the best choice and to the guy who said I could take a girl to the instead you're probably right but that's now what I'm looking for. I'm looking for variety over settling down at this point. I work 50 hours a week in finance and I'm not really interested in a relationship at this point. Money is not an really an issue at this point and I can bring 3000 to black beards if that's recommended. I know 10 days seems like a lot but I just really want to enjoy myself and you guys have told me very valuable information. I hope this posts BTW some of my posts haven't for some reason. I'm in Canada BTW which sucks because our dollar was on par 3 years ago now it's only. 76 but I want to enjoy myself and black beards seems like the way to go at this point.
Figure twelve hours to Europe, even more to Thailand.Well, it kind of depends where he is in Canada. From Vancouver it is under ten hours non stop to Frankfurt, but from Toronto it is only seven and a half.
I admit I missed that he was going in wintertime, but mongering will be unaffected. I definitely agree he should NOT spend 10 days in one place. Also, my opinion may be affected by the fact that I hate hot weather and am not much of a beach guy.
A lot more shit can go wrong in the DR or in Thailand as compared to Western Europe, especially without language skills. Thus I think the FKKs are the most fool proof option for the inexperienced monger.
I have traveled to the DR for five years and have yet to have shit happen. Where would you rather be, in Western Europe in the winter or in a tropical Island on the beach. I blind squirrel can thrive in Sosua.
Well, it kind of depends where he is in Canada. From Vancouver it is under ten hours non stop to Frankfurt, but from Toronto it is only seven and a half.
I admit I missed that he was going in wintertime, but mongering will be unaffected. I definitely agree he should NOT spend 10 days in one place. Also, my opinion may be affected by the fact that I hate hot weather and am not much of a beach guy.
A lot more shit can go wrong in the DR or in Thailand as compared to Western Europe, especially without language skills. Thus I think the FKKs are the most fool proof option for the inexperienced monger.
Well, let's see. The murder rate in the DR is about 27 times that of Germany (22.1 vs. 0. 8). The DR has malaria, in all areas except Santiago and Santo Domingo, and Germany does not. The DR's HIV rate is seven times that of Germany.
Shit like that. Hope that was clear enough for you!
Charles Pooter
08-03-15, 01:27
Well, let's see. The murder rate in the DR is about 27 times that of Germany (22.1 vs. 0. 8). The DR has malaria, in all areas except Santiago and Santo Domingo, and Germany does not. The DR's HIV rate is seven times that of Germany.
Shit like that. Hope that was clear enough for you!Yes, but many mongers like to keep their exploits confidential and the Germans have ways of making you talk.
Plus once you have AIDS and malaria, you won't really care if you get murdered. But seriously, I have been travelling and mongering in Latin America for over 40 years and I speak fluent Spanish. This guy does not. So I think safety is not an inappropriate factor for him to consider. Obviously if he just goes to BB for 10 days and doesn't wander around, it will be much less of a factor.
But that concept fails to excite me. Bear in mind I have not been to Blackbeard's.
He is in Canada. A trip to Germany would be going into warmer weather. Moreover, the FKKs are heated, he could spend the entire day there; meals are provided. Taxis are heated. His hotel room will be heated. If it is a monger trip and not a sightseeing trip he should be okay. If money is not an issue for him a trip to FKKland is a no brainer.
A simple question from a newbie has prompted some interesting replies.
Malaria, HIV and murder! In our sleepy little Sosua?.
Sosua could be a lot safer than your home town.
I have been going there for 7 years and know a lot of folks down there and I can tell you their problems are not murder, HIV, or Malaria, LOL.
Seasoned veteran posters here have been doing it longer and most of the complaints are puta "upselling" and petty theft.
It happened to me once but only because I took a puta back to my room with absolutely no conversation, because she was so hot! Even at that it was one of my best sessions and only cost me 10 bucks or so to get her to leave.
Sosua is a tourist area and they are generally safer than the country at large. Countrywide statistics can be misleading. Think Medeilin, Rio and a few other "dangerous places".
Sometimes there are as many cops on the street in Sosua as putas, Lol
Jf you are afraid of your shadow do not go to the DR. It rains there some times. I have been all over the DR. I have never been sick or murdered. Much like every guy on this site.
I have been to the DR about 15 times and have had no problems other then no leche from to much sex. When were you last in the DR.
If you are
Plus once you have AIDS and malaria, you won't really care if you get murdered. But seriously, I have been travelling and mongering in Latin America for over 40 years and I speak fluent Spanish. This guy does not. So I think safety is not an inappropriate factor for him to consider. Obviously if he just goes to BB for 10 days and doesn't wander around, it will be much less of a factor.
But that concept fails to excite me. Bear in mind I have not been to Blackbeard's..
It's always a bit annoying when I read others making it look like DR and other countries in Latin America are places where your chances of being murdered are pretty high compared to Europe. There are stats, both accurate and inaccurate (crime can go unreported and this is not uncommon) but let's be realistic. Bad things can happen to you anywhere, and even more so if you don't use common sense. Sosua is fine if you don't speak Spanish, there are going to be women who don't speak any english but for the most part there are enough english speaking visitors to where many people can speak a few words of english. It's always advised to learn a few basic words in Spanish when going anywhere in Latin America.
I've been to Barcelona a few times and have always felt like I'd get pick pocketed, I'm generally cautious everywhere I go and do my best not to stand out. Same thing goes in Amsterdam, and in Frankfurt. While these cities are considered "safe" by statistics, crime does exist and bad things can happen. Walk around the red light districts of these cities and you'll see plenty of shady characters, and drugged out thugs walking around looking for easy prey. While the Caribbean and Latin America have illnesses such as Malaria and Chikungaya, you could eat something in Europe or anywhere for that matter that gives you food poisoning etc. You could touch something that gives you an illness. Yes, the stats will say that this is a much more common occurrence in Latin America, but it's unrealistic to assume that make it look like "if you go to Sosua, you are 22 x more likely to end up dead. But if you go to Germany, you're going to be screwing girls left and right with no chance of something bad happening. " That type of mindset is no only ignorant, but it's wrong.
Everyone has their own experiences, and while there are greater risks in certain parts of the world based of statistics. It's stuff that can happen anywhere. Go to shady parts of big cities in the United States and you put yourself in risk for being in the wrong place. Sosua is not big. The DR is not a rich country, you see lots of poverty, and there are always going to be people who want to take advantage of your being there. But use some common sense with the way you present yourself, with the things you do, and you'll have an excellent time. I used to hold myself back from going to certain places because of all those stats, then I decided to take a chance and experience it myself and rely on opinions of those that actually had been to those places. Not everything has been perfect, but I've had much more fun mongering in the caribbean and latin america than in Europe. Experiences will vary.
Member #4398
08-03-15, 03:29
Well, let's see. The murder rate in the DR is about 27 times that of Germany (22.1 vs. 0.8). The DR has malaria, in all areas except Santiago and Santo Domingo, and Germany does not. The DR's HIV rate is seven times that of Germany.
Shit like that. Hope that was clear enough for you!There is Malaria in the DR but not everywhere as you have pointed out. According to the Carter Center, "In 2010, nearly 87,000 cases of malaria were reported on the island of Hispaniola (total population approximately 20 million). Haiti accounted for 97 percent of those cases", which means that 3 percent or 2600 cases of Malaria were reported in the DR in 2010. http://www.cartercenter.org/health/malaria/hispaniola/index.html Please note that the Hispaniola island is both countries the DR and Haiti combined. There was an increase of incidents of Malaria in the DR after the 2010 earthquake in Haiti, which might have been linked to the massive migration of Haitians to the DR that followed. The numbers have been going down since 2012 due to initiatives to reduce or eliminate malaria, 600 cases in 2013 and 300 were reported in 2014 http://fundacionio.org/viajar/paises/america/republica%20dominicana%20malaria.html As for the comparison of the murder rate per 100,000 residents between Germany (. 8) vs. Dr (22.1) I would say that it is accurate as per the statistics noted on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate but to put things into perspective and to be fair with the comparison, there are many other countries with a murder rate much higher than the 22.1 DR rate. For example, here is a list of countries that kick the DR in the higher murder rate department:
Honduras 90.4, Venezuela 53.7, United States Virgin Islands (US) 52.6, Belize 44.7, El Salvador 41.2, Guatemala 39.9, Africa-Lesotho 38, Jamaica 39.3, Africa-Zwaziland 33.8, Saint Kitts and Nevis 33.6, South Africa 31, Colombia 30.8, Brazil 25.2, Bahamas 29.8, Trinidad Tobago 28.3, Africa-Republic of Congo 28.3, USA-Puerto Rico 26.5, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 25.6, and Africa-Rhuwanda 23.1.
I am pretty sure that most of those countries if not all also have more HIV incidents than the DR too.
Cerebro.
NewbieMonger23
08-03-15, 03:39
A simple question from a newbie has prompted some interesting replies.
Malaria, HIV and murder! In our sleepy little Sosua?.
Sosua could be a lot safer than your home town.
I have been going there for 7 years and know a lot of folks down there and I can tell you their problems are not murder, HIV, or Malaria, LOL.
Seasoned veteran posters here have been doing it longer and most of the complaints are puta "upselling" and petty theft.
It happened to me once but only because I took a puta back to my room with absolutely no conversation, because she was so hot! Even at that it was one of my best sessions and only cost me 10 bucks or so to get her to leave.
Sosua is a tourist area and they are generally safer than the country at large. Countrywide statistics can be misleading. Think Medeilin, Rio and a few other "dangerous places".
Sometimes there are as many cops on the street in Sosua as putas, LolI appreciate the feedback I consider myself cautious and for my first trip honestly would probably not venture into Sosua not knowing Spanish. 10 days seems like a lot but honestly the way I see it if their are at least 20 girls having 2 a day for 10 days sounds like a lot of fun to me! Hopefully seeing fellow mongers and having a good time. Working hard most of the year I don't really see the point going all the way to the DR for only 3-4 days. Would 10 days really be too much? What's the average length of your guys trips to the DR?
I appreciate the feedback I consider myself cautious and for my first trip honestly would probably not venture into Sosua not knowing Spanish. 10 days seems like a lot but honestly the way I see it if their are at least 20 girls having 2 a day for 10 days sounds like a lot of fun to me! Hopefully seeing fellow mongers and having a good time. Working hard most of the year I don't really see the point going all the way to the DR for only 3-4 days. Would 10 days really be too much? What's the average length of your guys trips to the DR?Two trips of four days might be better than one trip of ten days and the overall cost about the same. Of course this may depend on your ability to get away from work. If you are running a business seven days a week and can only get away for ten days once in the year in the quiet time, then you have no choice. If you are an employee, you can probably get away two times in the year or more. The thing is, if you enjoy your trip, you will probably immediately want to return again, as so many do.
Charles Pooter
08-03-15, 15:15
My budget is not tight I could bring 3000 I said 2500 because I thought 180 a day would be plenty. Around 50 for ST and 80 LT still leaves me with 50 dollars for food and drink. Remaining 700 is hotel for the trip. Only bummer is I'm in Canada and our dollar was on par with the USA JAre you estimating here in US or Can $?
If US $3000 that's US $300 per day:
US $70 for room.
US $50 for food and drink (ample for you as you don't drink much, but not really enough to buy chicas food or drinks each day).
US $70 for TLN (toda la noche = all night. You may not want to do that. I love it but many guys don't).
US $40 for ST (short time. Usually one cum or up to 2 hours).
That leaves US $70 for other expenses such as taxis and excursions. Or you may prefer to stay on campus and do another ST or a blowjob in the jacuzzi (US $12).
I would recommend that you spend one day (midday to early evening) in Sosua to check the place out for a possible future holiday. See if you can find guys to share a taxi, as taxis charge per mile not per person.
Try to get talking to other guests there. That was a big part of my first trip.
Also you could spend one afternoon in Puerto Plata on the Malecon. (Would be glad to meet up given enough notice and assuming I am still alive by winter). To be honest, there is not much to see here, but it would make a break from Barba Negra.
I assume you are talking US $. If you mean Can $3000 you will have to cut right back, and Can $2500 would not be doable.
I'm in Canada.I know some Canadians learn French. Do you speak any French? If so, this opens up further options for you. You have said that you are OK with black girls. If you speak some French you could get along with Haitian girls. Many of us ex-pats have learned to prefer them. As a rule they are sweeter-natured and less demanding. But no haitianas inside Blackbeards (as far as I know) and if there were they would be same price and same "professional" attitude as the dominicanas there.
In your circumstances I still recommend Blackbeards. It is ideal for a first trip. After your first trip you will be eager for a quick return to the DR. That second trip you might think about Sosua and the haitiana option so spend a day there to get the feel of the place. You could arrange to meet a board member to show you around. Most of them are "bored" members in the daytime and would be happy to do so.
Charles Pooter
08-03-15, 15:25
Two trips of four days might be better than one trip of ten days and the overall cost about the same.Eight days for the price of ten? Great idea, Frannie. Maybe makes sense if popping over from Miami, but from Canada not.
My first ever DR trip I spent two weeks at Blackbeards. Could cheerfully have stayed another two, but the money ran out.
Never stayed there in the nine years since, because once I learned a bit of Spanish (still don't know a helluva lot more, I am ashamed to say) I could enjoy a more varied and adventurous time free-range, but I still think it is a great place to start.
I appreciate the feedback I consider myself cautious and for my first trip honestly would probably not venture into Sosua not knowing Spanish. 10 days seems like a lot but honestly the way I see it if their are at least 20 girls having 2 a day for 10 days sounds like a lot of fun to me! Hopefully seeing fellow mongers and having a good time. Working hard most of the year I don't really see the point going all the way to the DR for only 3-4 days. Would 10 days really be too much? What's the average length of your guys trips to the DR?Don't let the lack of Spanish deter you from at least visiting Sosua. A monger and a puta can always communicate. That language is universal, LOL. You hold up two fingers, she holds up three, and it's fun figuring out the saw off, over a beer.
I was like you when I started, no Spanish, but from that first beer, I knew I was where I wanted to be.
I could be wrong but I doubt many guys would go to Blackbeards, after seeing Sosua.
Well I started mongering at 25 Years old and its the best decision of my life. It really taught me what being a man is about. I also suggest getting all the fucking out of your system that way when you ready to get married and settle down, You won't care about cheating as much like that. I would have hate finding out about mongering at the age of 50. You will be more depressed and have regrets that you did not find out about the lifestyle sooner.As usual, I cannot disagree more with this poster. Mongering will not teach you what being a man is about in any way that I can think of.
I did not discover mongering until I was over 50, and I am very glad that I did not, and I am not in the slightest bit depressed, nor do I have any regrets, because mongering can easily become like an addiction and divert your mental and financial resources from other career goals and other forms of personal and intellectual development. For example you will probably give up on the idea of traveling to all kinds of interesting places overseas that are not mongering destinations. For a few years mongering was a ruling passion in my life, but now it is much less so and it something I can take or leave, just like getting a massage or a haircut or a pedicure, which is the way I like it.
The advantages of mongering are: 1. Having sex with much younger women than you could have for free. 2. Having sex with more beautiful women than you could have for free. 3. Being able to fulfil some sexual fantasies that you would find very hard to get on for free, for example threesomes with two women and you.
I cannot think of any really good reasons why I would recommend a young person in their 20's to take up mongering, unless perhaps they had some kind of handicap that stopped them from having normal relationships without paying, or were on the way to becoming 40-year-old virgins and wanted to find out how to relate to women in a sexual way.
In addition, for a younger man traveling to the DR would open up a huge range of attractive Dominican and Haitian women with whom there is a possibility of legitimate long term relationships outside the scope of mongering, or paying women for sex acts.
Essential reading for younger, or older, mongers (I know no one will pay attention to this, but putting it here anyway).
1. My Secret Life by Paul Theroux. A semifictional novel about the author's sex life from his teen years onwards, including a fascinatingly hilarious section about mongering in Africa as a young Peace Corps volunteer, and having sex with a young female leper in a leper colony in the same room as her blind grandmother, confronting his wife's lover and spraying him with a water pistol full of [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109), plus numerous other sexual encounters. The book is available from Amazon, of course.
2. Porn. A totally brilliant and hilarious 49 minute documentary on YouTube made by Louis Theroux (son of Paul Theroux) about the making of porno movies in which Theroux himself plays a part in a porn movie. This movie should be of massive interest to any young would-be monger, as it explodes many of the myths of pornography and demonstrates that even the actors in pornography do not have "porn star experience" sex. Just Google "Porn Louis Theroux YouTube" if you want to see it.
Charles Pooter
08-03-15, 15:40
I could be wrong but I doubt many guys would go to Blackbeards, after seeing Sosua.Very wrong. I never stayed at Blackbeards again after getting to know my way around Puerto Plata (it was a good mongering area for learners in those days). But Sosua is not for everyone. Many guys prefer to return to Blackbeards or Field of Dreams (before the latter went south).
Many first-timers have a bad experience in Sosua through bad luck or naivety and it puts them off the DR for life. A member of my family, an eight-trip Thailand vet, hated it. He had no Spanish. He moved to Blackbeards for the last four days of his two weeks and loved it. He blamed me for not booking him there for the whole two weeks. He will never come back to the DR.
Don't let the lack of Spanish deter you from at least visiting Sosua. A monger and a puta can always communicate. That language is universal, LOL. You hold up two fingers, she holds up three, and it's fun figuring out the saw off, over a beer.
I was like you when I started, no Spanish, but from that first beer, I knew I was where I wanted to be.
I could be wrong but I doubt many guys would go to Blackbeards, after seeing Sosua.Anyone who makes the effort can pick up a useful amount of Spanish in a few weeks of study. The language has many words similar to English, so what you need is same basic phraseology to join up the dots and a bit of common vocabulary.
Words like policia, taxi, hospital, clinica, antibiotic, dentista, doctora aeropuerto, platano, pi-pi, ca-ca, ficky-ficky, banco, supermercado. pharmacia, restaurante, pizza, are not worth bothering with as they are obvious.
Learn the numbers and most common colors like red, blue, green, yellow, orange, black, white, pink.
Learn the basic form of the 20 most common verbs and their opposites, like stop-go, come-go, drive-walk-run, eat-drink, go to bed-get up, cost-pay, give-take, love-hate, live-die, be, have, hurt.
Learn a dozen of the most common adjectives their opposites, like hot-cold, fast-slow, good-bad, tired, drunk, left-right.
Learn common converstational words like yes-no, good morning--good night, thank you, excuse me, I would like. , how much is?, hungry, thirsty, where is the bathroom, how are you, I have no money. Fuck off.
Learn a few words for common foods, like potatoes, pork, chicken, beef, salad, ice cream, beer, wine, coffee, tea, rice, bread, cheese, milk (very important), fried.
Now you are good to go. If you just learn 5 words per day for two months, then you have 300 words and that is plenty to get by.
Tempoecorto
08-03-15, 17:00
As usual, I cannot disagree more with this poster. Mongering will not teach you what being a man is about in any way that I can think of.I could not agree more with you. I started around 33 as work took me to various continents but I cannot imagine a normal young person looking for paid sex, indeed it might screw up a man's perspective by looking at women as objects.
1. My Secret Life by Paul Theroux. A semifictional novel about the author's sex life from his teen years onwards, including a fascinatingly hilarious section about mongering in Africa as a young Peace Corps volunteer, and having sex with a young female leper in a leper colony in the same room as her blind grandmother, confronting his wife's lover and spraying him with a water pistol full of [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134), plus numerous other sexual encounters.Oops, the name of the book is My Secret History. He also wrote a book called My Other Life, but My Secret History is the book for mongers.
Don't let the lack of Spanish deter you from at least visiting Sosua. A monger and a puta can always communicate. That language is universal, LOL. You hold up two fingers, she holds up three, and it's fun figuring out the saw off, over a beer.
I was like you when I started, no Spanish, but from that first beer, I knew I was where I wanted to be.
I could be wrong but I doubt many guys would go to Blackbeards, after seeing Sosua.Lack of Spanish shouldn't deter him, from Sosua. He's got time to pick up the basics, and very little is needed.
I spent 6 days in Sosua and then went to Blackbeard's for 2 days. Looking back I think 5 and 3 would have been a better split. I enjoyed both and would return to both.
For a 24 year old, Blackbeard's will probably be more fun. By the time you reach 50, most guys are willing to slow down and focus more on quality than quantity. I'm not being insulting, younger men tend to enjoy the easier route.
It's easy to find a chica in Sosua, all you have to do is leave your hotel and one will find you within minutes. The harder part is finding the ones who are worth the price. That takes a bit of patience.
ForceSteeler
08-03-15, 21:09
As usual, I cannot disagree more with this poster. Mongering will not teach you what being a man is about in any way that I can think of.
I did not discover mongering until I was over 50, and I am very glad that I did not, and I am not in the slightest bit depressed, nor do I have any regrets, because mongering can easily become like an addiction and divert your mental and financial resources from other career goals and other forms of personal and intellectual development. For example you will probably give up on the idea of traveling to all kinds of interesting places overseas that are not mongering destinations. For a few years mongering was a ruling passion in my life, but now it is much less so and it something I can take or leave, just like getting a massage or a haircut or a pedicure, which is the way I like it.
The advantages of mongering are: 1. Having sex with much younger women than you could have for free. 2. Having sex with more beautiful women than you could have for free. 3. Being able to fulfil some sexual fantasies that you would find very hard to get on for free, for example threesomes with two women and you.
I cannot think of any really good reasons why I would recommend a young person in their 20's to take up mongering, unless perhaps they had some kind of handicap that stopped them from having normal relationships without paying, or were on the way to becoming 40-year-old virgins and wanted to find out how to relate to women in a sexual way.Well everybody have different experiences. I have met a lot of older mongers and they all told me they wish they found out about DR, Brazil, etc. When they were younger. I Personally am happy I know about mongering at a young age, because if I did not I would have been your typical pussy whipped american male kiss ass that put women on a pedestal and will make women walk all over them just because they got pussy. When I go to a country like Brazil and I get to bang some of the hottest chicks I ever seen in my life, when I go back to america, I look at a typical american women like there shit! And it fucks with there ego, as there so used to thirsty ass dudes that will role out the red carpet for them. I know my value as a man and I rather find out when I'm young then when I'm old, and have to pay alimony and child support. So ID say its better to party hard and monger hard when your young. When you get old then its time to settle down with a wife, That way you don't have to worry about cheating and sneaking around. You can always have a clear head and say "Been there, Done, That". When I have a wife, I don't want to cheat on her and I don't have the need too because at the back of my head I know I already been around the world and I fucked the planet! Just my 2 cents!.
I appreciate the feedback I consider myself cautious and for my first trip honestly would probably not venture into Sosua not knowing Spanish. 10 days seems like a lot but honestly the way I see it if their are at least 20 girls having 2 a day for 10 days sounds like a lot of fun to me! Hopefully seeing fellow mongers and having a good time. Working hard most of the year I don't really see the point going all the way to the DR for only 3-4 days. Would 10 days really be too much? What's the average length of your guys trips to the DR?My typical trip to the DR is -- arrive Thursday afternoon, fly back on Sunday. Two full days of daytime outdoor activities, and three nights of fun. But that's after being a repeat visitor. I get bored in the DR any longer than that.
I do agree that 10 days in the DR is too long a time, unless it is your first time and you want to see the whole country. Ten days, including time in Punta Cana, Santo Domingo, and in the interior, could be easily filled.
NewbieMonger23
08-04-15, 01:54
Well everybody have different experiences. I have met a lot of older mongers and they all told me they wish they found out about DR, Brazil, etc. When they were younger. I Personally am happy I know about mongering at a young age, because if I did not I would have been your typical pussy whipped american male kiss ass that put women on a pedestal and will make women walk all over them just because they got pussy. When I go to a country like Brazil and I get to bang some of the hottest chicks I ever seen in my life, when I go back to america, I look at a typical american women like there shit! And it fucks with there ego, as there so used to thirsty ass dudes that will role out the red carpet for them. I know my value as a man and I rather find out when I'm young then when I'm old, and have to pay alimony and child support. So ID say its better to party hard and monger hard when your young. When you get old then its time to settle down with a wife, That way you don't have to worry about cheating and sneaking around. You can always have a clear head and say "Been there, Done, That". When I have a wife, I don't want to cheat on her and I don't have the need too because at the back of my head I know I already been around the world and I fucked the planet! Just my 2 cents!.I kinda have the same view as ForceSteeler on this one. The way I look at it at this point in my life I'm not looking for love. I have two things on my mind that is women and money. Trying to settle down and have a relationship is going to prevent me from working overtime and spending money on dates etc. I'm a pretty regular 24 year old who's had relationships before, go to the gym and can get girls if I put in an effort. I just feel going to a tropical country and being able to enjoy the sun and having relations with various women is quite amazing! I don't waste my money on dumb tings and feel mongering is a great thing to try out. I think it's best to be objective here for the guy who said young men shouldn't monger is all personal opinion maybe that worked for him and he was more into relationships at my age. Times have changed however and honestly breaking your break for women of these days is not worth it when you can travel the world and bang sexy women! I think black beards is where I'm going and I really appreciate everyone thoughts!
Well everybody have different experiences. I have met a lot of older mongers and they all told me they wish they found out about DR, Brazil, etc. When they were younger Well, maybe so, but that doesn't mean that they were depressed.
So ID say its better to party hard and monger hard when your young. When you get old then its time to settle down with a wife, That way you don't have to worry about cheating and sneaking around. You can always have a clear head and say "Been there, Done, That". When I have a wife, I don't want to cheat on her and I don't have the need too because at the back of my head I know I already been around the world and I fucked the planet! Just my 2 cents!.And have you met older men who have done this with the outcome you describe? What if the older man finds he cannot become sexually aroused without variety. Would that not possibly be fatal to his late-life marriage to a presumably younger woman of childbearing age? Anything is possible, I suppose.
Charles Pooter
08-04-15, 02:57
It's easy to find a chica in Sosua, all you have to do is leave your hotel and one will find you within minutes. The harder part is finding the ones who are worth the price. That takes a bit of patience.After my first couple trips I tended to avoid the ones "who found me". Not for some macho reason of the male needing to take the lead. I am too old for that bullshit. But because the ones "who found me" were usually full-time, or at least experienced, pros whereas the ones I have had the best time with are semi-pros, by which I mean they do not go out to look for men for money, but won't turn down the opportunity if it arises (of course, with the right guy and at the right price). They would normally have some other main means of support, a low-paying job or bumming off their families.
You have to approach such girls yourself, and it is not always successful.
Charles Pooter
08-04-15, 03:15
I'm not looking for love.I hope you remember that when in the DR. I have heard those words so many times from first-time (and not even first-time) visitors, and so many have fallen at the first hurdle. The island chicas (and especially the pros) are expert at making guys fall for them. Your biggest danger is not ForceSteeler's malaria, traffic accidents, or assasins, but some dark-skinned siren with her line of bullshit.
I remember one Canadian guy, former law enforcement officer now with his own business and loads of cash. You would have thought he was a hardened type who had seen it all in his life. He was not a drinker or on drugs. He became infatuated with the most popular girl at Blackbeards. He was active on the monger boards so he knew she was fucking literally hundreds of guys a year using three holes or more. Yet he convinced himself they were soulmates.
When the inevitable light dawned after two or three longish trips and tens of thousands of dollars expended, it was not pretty. I only found out about it after the event (though I should have read the signs) when I innocently mentioned her name. He thought I was taking the [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) and started assaulting me in front of the stage at a bachata concert. He was a big, tough guy and I am a frail old man. I nearly wet myself with fright and surprise.
That is an extreme example of infatuation but I have witnessed numerous lesser cases. I cannot describe more now because I need a CodeWord109.
ForceSteeler
08-04-15, 04:17
I hope you remember that when in the DR. I have heard those words so many times from first-time (and not even first-time) visitors, and so many have fallen at the first hurdle. The island chicas (and especially the pros) are expert at making guys fall for them. Your biggest danger is not ForceSteeler's malaria, traffic accidents, or assasins, but some dark-skinned siren with her line of bullshit.
I remember one Canadian guy, former law enforcement officer now with his own business and loads of cash. You would have thought he was a hardened type who had seen it all in his life. He was not a drinker or on drugs. He became infatuated with the most popular girl at Blackbeards. He was active on the monger boards so he knew she was fucking literally hundreds of guys a year using three holes or more. Yet he convinced himself they were soulmates. I started mongering young but I was more of the hybrid guy. I was book smart and street smart. (I'm not trying to brag). I Never fell in love or fell for those weak ass western union hustle scams. I'm from the streets of NewYork and I use to hang around alot of hustlers, so call pimps, and smooth talking players and I would see what women will do when there truly in love. When a women is truly in love with you and she is your ride or die, You don't have to give her shit. And I'm not talking about paying for pussy, I'm taking about when your in a real relationship, This whole giving $100-$200 monthly support bullshit is all game and I always want guys to realize it Just all game and its not a real boy girlfriend / girlfriend relationship, because when the western union check stops coming these chicas do not know you. Just like friends, you cannot call people your friend when your down on your luck and only hang out with you when they can get something, But anyway I'm rambling. To make a long story short, Don't fall in love with a Chica *****, and don't turn a working girl into a housewife. And if you really want to know if a chica likes you, Don't send her any money. Most of these Dominician Men are jobless bums, but there chicas deep down love them to death, You can buy the pussy but you cannot buy her heart. So go to Sosua and fuck but don't ever fall in love. If you really want a REAL Dominician Girlfriend, Do NOT go to Sosua, Learn Spanish and head to the Santiago, or Santo Domingo go to a trendy club and try to find a Non-Pro girl with a Job and has a career, spit game.
You have a better shot. Always remember about hookers and relationships, If you pay her $40 dollars to get her, All It takes is another man with $40 or more money to have her! If you want a girlfriend try getting a non-hooker, Non-Pro that you have to actually spit game too. A truly Non-Pro girl cannot be bought with money, So its going to take a guy with the same level of game or more to have her, And that's a good thing, because alot of guys don't have game, but a lot of guys do have $40 bucks, Which is the reason why I never understand how guys can wife hookers.
Durandpaul
08-04-15, 06:29
I kinda have the same view as ForceSteeler on this one. The way I look at it at this point in my life I'm not looking for love. I have two things on my mind that is women and money. Trying to settle down and have a relationship is going to prevent me from working overtime and spending money on dates etc. I'm a pretty regular 24 year old who's had relationships before, go to the gym and can get girls if I put in an effort. I just feel going to a tropical country and being able to enjoy the sun and having relations with various women is quite amazing! I don't waste my money on dumb tings and feel mongering is a great thing to try out. I think it's best to be objective here for the guy who said young men shouldn't monger is all personal opinion maybe that worked for him and he was more into relationships at my age. Times have changed however and honestly breaking your break for women of these days is not worth it when you can travel the world and bang sexy women! I think black beards is where I'm going and I really appreciate everyone thoughts!NewbieMonger,
Like you I had asked about sosua or blackbeards. I am glad I went for sosua. I am in my early 30's, I monger because I love pussy and love to bang different women. Big titties / big booties / long legs / etc. The beauty about mongering or paying for sex is I get my nut and can tell the girl to either leave or stay. As long as you can afford the hobby I don't see your age as a problem. For me mongering is about peace of mind. I rather focus on my career and girl. I have no time for other girls.
I speak english, french, and zero spanish. You don't need to speak spanish to go to sosua. Just learn greetings in spanish, and make sure you know how to say or understand the basic negotiation phrases. Like how to say how much, how to count, how to say leave me alone, come to my hotel, I will call you etc.
French did not help me because Haitians speak creole, so that didn't get me anywhere. Most girls understand basic english for negotiations. If you are just going to fuck then you don't need spanish, but if you are looking for GFE, or a girl to chill with and talk then blackbeards may be the place to go. If you just want to do some type of sport fucking, sosua is the place to go even with no spanish.
And when a girl get into your room you can use google translate. My best experience in sosua was with a girl I met a the beach. She spoke no english and couldn't write well in spanish, so google translate couldn't translate well. I bought her a drink while I was eating and getting a massage at the beach. The girl was hot, but I played it cool and when I left she asked to come to my room. I showed her 1,500 pesos and she followed me. After I banged her, she wrote on google translate that she wanted to stay. I told her I only had 700 peso left and was tired. Right after she saw the 700, she crawled between my legs and gave me a blow job for like an hour, til I blow a load in her mouth. Cash didn't all the communications between us.
My routine when I was in sosua was get morning sex, tell the girl to leave, then go get massage with happy ending. After the massage, I will go back to my room, get ready and head to the beach. At the beach I will get beers, food, feet massage, and do some work on my computer. While working on my laptop I will also look at the talent at the beach. I will then take a girl back to my room from the beach, bang her, then tell her to leave. After the girl left, I will take a nap, and wake up for Rumba. I will go to rumba like at 6 pm, get a beer and pick a girl to bang before classico. This means that I was usually drained when I went to classico. Classico is definetly like any good club in the US, good music if you like rap, hip hop, jamaican music. Girls at classico were fine, most of them come from out of town. But having a nut before going to classico allowed me to be in control and not think with my dick. After I find a girl at classico, I will negotiate the price for multiples and make sure I have a good vibe from her.
Rumba and classico added value to my trip and I don't think those options would have been available at blackbeards. The choice of girls is so limited at blackbeards. I don't think that all the girls at blackbeards are fine.
I am already planning my next trip, for a week, sometimes at the end of the year or beginning of the year. The only thing I don't like about sosua is quality of the hotels that are within walking distance to the beach and rumba. I stay at the casa cayana, which is one of the best options close to the beach. My preference will be a 3 to 4 stars hotel US standards.
NewbieMonger23
08-04-15, 06:53
NewbieMonger,
Like you I had asked about sosua or blackbeards. I am glad I went for sosua. I am in my early 30's, I monger because I love pussy and love to bang different women. Big titties / big booties / long legs / etc. The beauty about mongering or paying for sex is I get my nut and can tell the girl to either leave or stay. As long as you can afford the hobby I don't see your age as a problem. For me mongering is about peace of mind. I rather focus on my career and girl. I have no time for other girls.
I speak english, french, and zero spanish. You don't need to speak spanish to go to sosua. Just learn greetings in spanish, and make sure you know how to say or understand the basic negotiation phrases. Like how to say how much, how to count, how to say leave me alone, come to my hotel, I will call you etc.
French did not help me because Haitians speak creole, so that didn't get me anywhere. Most girls understand basic english for negotiations. If you are just going to fuck then you don't need spanish, but if you are looking for GFE, or a girl to chill with and talk then blackbeards may be the place to go. If you just want to do some type of sport fucking, sosua is the place to go even with no spanish..Duranandpaul wow that sounds amazing man! Is it easy to find fellow Americans or Canadians to hang out with? This is a solo trip so just wondering if fellow mongers are laid back. Sosua sounds tempting man but honestly if I enjoy the DR that sounds like a round 2 trip. I first want to dip my foot in the water and just be in a closed relaxed enviorment with girls and variety. My plan is to not sleep with the same girl the whole trip unless she's outstanding. I'm looking forward to it! Reading all this is getting my excited glad I finally made an account and getting all this feedback I've literally been lurking for years.
$100 is too much, depending on the city and fairs at the time of your visit you can spend under $50 for decent 3 star hotel.
Many FKK located near train or bus station, so no expense if you have travel card which is a must.
$200 a day for an entrance fee and two girls sounds about right. And with included food and drinks you may save even more.
You basically have to choose between sex & beach and sex & sightseeing. The whole experience is very different, DR is much more relaxed, GFE in FKK is not an option if it matters.
2. $2500 just isn't enough for Germany. You'll be spending $100 MINIMUM for a hotel room, probably more. Western Europe is MORE expensive than the US. In FKK's, admission price plus two drinks is about $80. If you count your Taxi rides to and from the FKK, that's $100 per night, and you haven't even had any fun yet. Count on spending about $200 total daily at FKK's. Even not considering the weather (which WILL suck BAD), there is so much fun tourist and historical stuff to do in Germany that you are better off waiting to go until you are at a point in your life when you have more disposable income.
Spanish phrase book & dictionary of sex-http://www.amazon.com/Spanish-phrase-book-dictionary-y%C2%A0diccionario/dp/5803332569/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1438672289&sr=8-1&keywords=sex+phrase+book+spanish.
Do not buy it if you stay only at BB as they can lend it to you. Otherwise a good investment. I had a lot of fun with chicas by opening a random page and doing some crazy stuff.
Anyone who makes the effort can pick up a useful amount of Spanish in a few weeks of study. The language has many words similar to English, so what you need is same basic phraseology to join up the dots and a bit of common vocabulary.
Words like policia, taxi, hospital, clinica, antibiotic, dentista, doctora aeropuerto, platano, pi-pi, ca-ca, ficky-ficky, banco, supermercado. pharmacia, restaurante, pizza, are not worth bothering with as they are obvious.
Learn the numbers and most common colors like red, blue, green, yellow, orange, black, white, pink.
Learn the basic form of the 20 most common verbs and their opposites, like stop-go, come-go, drive-walk-run, eat-drink, go to bed-get up, cost-pay, give-take, love-hate, live-die, be, have, hurt.
Learn a dozen of the most common adjectives their opposites, like hot-cold, fast-slow, good-bad, tired, drunk, left-right.
Learn common converstational words like yes-no, good morning--good night, thank you, excuse me, I would like. , how much is?, hungry, thirsty, where is the bathroom, how are you, I have no money. Fuck off.
Learn a few words for common foods, like potatoes, pork, chicken, beef, salad, ice cream, beer, wine, coffee, tea, rice, bread, cheese, milk (very important), fried.
Now you are good to go. If you just learn 5 words per day for two months, then you have 300 words and that is plenty to get by.
I cannot think of any really good reasons why I would recommend a young person in their 20's to take up mongering, unless perhaps they had some kind of handicap that stopped them from having normal relationships without paying, or were on the way to becoming 40-year-old virgins and wanted to find out how to relate to women in a sexual way.Mongering is exactly like porn, only more expensive, LOL.
Very wrong. I never stayed at Blackbeards again after getting to know my way around Puerto Plata (it was a good mongering area for learners in those days). But Sosua is not for everyone. Many guys prefer to return to Blackbeards or Field of Dreams (before the latter went south).
Many first-timers have a bad experience in Sosua through bad luck or naivety and it puts them off the DR for life. A member of my family, an eight-trip Thailand vet, hated it. He had no Spanish. He moved to Blackbeards for the last four days of his two weeks and loved it. He blamed me for not booking him there for the whole two weeks. He will never come back to the DR.So I guess you and I, and most other regulars here, are the "exceptions" to your rule!
Well everybody have different experiences. I have met a lot of older mongers and they all told me they wish they found out about DR, Brazil, etc. When they were younger. I Personally am happy I know about mongering at a young age, because if I did not I would have been your typical pussy whipped american male kiss ass that put women on a pedestal and will make women walk all over them just because they got pussy. When I go to a country like Brazil and I get to bang some of the hottest chicks I ever seen in my life, when I go back to america, I look at a typical american women like there shit! And it fucks with there ego, as there so used to thirsty ass dudes that will role out the red carpet for them. I know my value as a man and I rather find out when I'm young then when I'm old, and have to pay alimony and child support. So ID say its better to party hard and monger hard when your young. When you get old then its time to settle down with a wife, That way you don't have to worry about cheating and sneaking around. You can always have a clear head and say "Been there, Done, That". When I have a wife, I don't want to cheat on her and I don't have the need too because at the back of my head I know I already been around the world and I fucked the planet! Just my 2 cents!.There's truth there!
When I was young and very horny, I put beautiful girls on a pedestal, and although I managed to get more than my share of pussy, I was always sweaty handed around them, and It was hard to have a normal conversation with them, or a sense of humor, because all I saw them as was sex objects I was desperate to fuck. (I functioned normally in all other areas, I was married for many years, LOL, so I don't need any cheap psychoanalysis).
Mongering helped me reset my clock, so that I saw women, all women, as just people, with warts and all, and had no trouble sharing a laugh and relaxing and actually being indifferent to some truly beautiful women. Mongering did wonders for my attitudes and success rate with normal women.
Blackbeards would be no place for a guy like me. Menu too limited. I am very fussy and I don't want to wait two days untill some guy in the next room gets tired of fucking the one chica I find attractive, Lol.
"Yes, I'll have your Prime Rib Special, rare"
"Sorry sir, that gentleman over there, has ordered our last rare cut, but we do have lots of "well done" left over". :)
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