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Frannie
08-04-15, 13:53
There's truth there!

When I was young and very horny, I put beautiful girls on a pedestal, and although I managed to get more than my share of pussy, I was always sweaty handed around them, and It was hard to have a normal conversation with them, or a sense of humor, because all I saw them as was sex objects I was desperate to fuck. (I functioned normally in all other areas, I was married for many years, LOL, so I don't need any cheap psychoanalysis).

Mongering helped me reset my clock, so that I saw women, all women, as just people, with warts and all, and had no trouble sharing a laugh and relaxing and actually being indifferent to some truly beautiful women. Mongering did wonders for my attitudes and success rate with normal women.I think my experience is the reverse of yours. . What I took away from mongering is the conviction that money is the basis for relationships with women. . Or at least financial security for themselves and their children. . This may not apply to women who are professionals who have their own careers and are career driven.

I am not a romantic like one frequent poster who believes that women everywhere desire him for himself. There is always an ulterior motive, even if it is not apparent.

I also think mongering is the reverse of porn because it involves relating to a real person with real needs in real time and not with an artificial image created on an industrial production in which the consumer plays no part. I agree with what you say about warts and all, though I never did mentally put women on a pedestal.

Charles Pooter
08-04-15, 14:21
French did not help me because Haitians speak creole, so that didn't get me anywhere. You are correct. All the Haitians you will meet on the North Coast speak Kreyol as their first language. The tiny proportion of Haitians who speak French as their first language are from the educated upper and middle classes and are unlikely to be on the game in the DR.

However a large proportion of the chicas learned some French in school, and even if they learned none, 98% of Kreyol words are derived from French. Most people who speak French (and my experience is with French Canadians not Frenchmen) have found it a distinct advantage with haitianas. Even my very rusty schoolboy French (unused for fifty plus years) was a help.

If you found French no use, I would guess that you spoke too rapidly or, more likely, you were dealing with haitianas who had been here some time and learned some English. These are not the ones NB23 should be aiming for. Once they have been here 3 to 12 months they have acquired all the Dominican bullshit. The best ones are those still with sand on their ankles from having waded across the Rio Masacre.

Charles Pooter
08-04-15, 14:50
Is it easy to find fellow Americans or Canadians to hang out with? Yes. Especially in Jan which is a busy time. (Don't leave booking at Blackbeards too late!)

At Blackbeards you have little choice but to socialize as you are thrown together on a fairly small property. My stay there, talking to guys was a big part of the experience and the reason I did not get bored after two weeks. Your main problem might be avoiding some bore who latches on to you, but this is unlikely.

One advantage of socializing is you can maybe find guys to share taxis, making outings affordable which would otherwise be outside your tight budget.

In Sosua, you would be wise to learn the ropes from ex-pats or regular visitors. But be cautious. Not all gringos are angels. Avoid like the plague heavy drinkers, drug-takers (that includes weed) and macho types who prefer to fight rather than walk away. If they get themselves into trouble they might drag you down too. The police have a "birds of a feather" philosophy.

Don't let guys talk you into going outside your comfort zone until you know them and the area well after two or three trips. If you stay in populated area you will be OK.

Charles Pooter
08-04-15, 14:59
Sosua sounds tempting man but honestly if I enjoy the DR that sounds like a round 2 trip.Although I think you are wise to start at Blackbeards, you could consider staying in Sosua (I would recommend Casa Cayena) for the final three nights. By that time you won't have a lot of money left to get stolen or scammed out of!


I'm looking forward to it! Start learning a little Spanish now. Half hour a day until January and you can enhance your enjoyment when there. And start thinking about prices in DR pesos rather than dollars now so it comes naturally by January. That can save you money.

Oakie
08-04-15, 16:06
I think my experience is the reverse of yours. . What I took away from mongering is the conviction that money is the basis for relationships with women. . Or at least financial security for themselves and their children. . This may not apply to women who are professionals who have their own careers and are career driven.

I am not a romantic like one frequent poster who believes that women everywhere desire him for himself. There is always an ulterior motive, even if it is not apparent.

I also think mongering is the reverse of porn because it involves relating to a real person with real needs in real time and not with an artificial image created on an industrial production in which the consumer plays no part. I agree with what you say about warts and all, though I never did mentally put women on a pedestal.I put their pure fresh hard young bodies on a pedestal, not their brains, LOL!

I don't know about a sport fucker "relating to a real person". It's just a business transaction, like shopping or a restaurant. Her "real needs" are money, unless like me, you have found a great long term relationship with a regular, and there's quite a bit more to it.

But I get nothing but crap here in this forum, for claiming she's a real "person", even while they themselves are looking for, or giving advice on, how to find a "non pro" or a "semi pro", LOL.

Go figure!

(And porn IS cheap!)

Oakie
08-04-15, 16:20
Duranandpaul wow that sounds amazing man! Is it easy to find fellow Americans or Canadians to hang out with? This is a solo trip so just wondering if fellow mongers are laid back. Sosua sounds tempting man but honestly if I enjoy the DR that sounds like a round 2 trip. I first want to dip my foot in the water and just be in a closed relaxed enviorment with girls and variety. My plan is to not sleep with the same girl the whole trip unless she's outstanding. I'm looking forward to it! Reading all this is getting my excited glad I finally made an account and getting all this feedback I've literally been lurking for years.As you can see, your original post brought out a lot of advice on how to spend your time and your money!

While all advice is good, you can see that mongers here differ greatly among themselves, in attitudes towards our sport, and it would be impossible to take all their advice to heart.

So choose what suits YOU! Other than that, keep an open mind and be open to new experiences. Not everybody down there is trying to screw you. Just as we mongers differ greatly, so do the chicas!

Frannie
08-04-15, 16:25
I put their pure fresh hard young bodies on a pedestal, not their brains, LOL!

I don't know about a sport fucker "relating to a real person". It's just a business transaction, like shopping or a restaurant. Her "real needs" are money, unless like me, you have found a great long term relationship with a regular, and there's quite a bit more to it.

But I get nothing but crap here in this forum, for claiming she's a real "person", even while they themselves are looking for, or giving advice on, how to find a "non pro" or a "semi pro", LOL.

Go figure!

(And porn IS cheap!)Porn is mostly free. To me, discovering the personality of the girl is what makes it hot sex. If she turns out to be dull and just wants to get the deed done, get her money, and get out, then there is hardly any value added over masturbation. Non pros are more interesting, because presumably they have some aspirations beyond getting their pro card.

In any intimate encounter of this kind both participants are bringing their personalities into play, and the interaction will determine the quality of the encounter. It is a two-way process.

Frannie
08-04-15, 16:28
I put their pure fresh hard young bodies on a pedestal, not their brains, LOL!

(And porn IS cheap!)You put them on a pedestal mentally, or you actually had a real pedestal onto which they climbed like a statue? Surely the former.

JjBee62
08-04-15, 16:30
Duranandpaul wow that sounds amazing man! Is it easy to find fellow Americans or Canadians to hang out with? This is a solo trip so just wondering if fellow mongers are laid back. Sosua sounds tempting man but honestly if I enjoy the DR that sounds like a round 2 trip. I first want to dip my foot in the water and just be in a closed relaxed enviorment with girls and variety. My plan is to not sleep with the same girl the whole trip unless she's outstanding. I'm looking forward to it! Reading all this is getting my excited glad I finally made an account and getting all this feedback I've literally been lurking for years.The mongers I ran into in Sosua were mostly laid back. If you stay at Casa Cayena, you'll have several mongers sitting around during breakfast, a mix of new visitors and old pros. If you stay at Plaza Europa, the little bar out front usually has a few guys hanging out. Chez Mon, across from Rumbas is another spot where there were usually quite a few guys hanging out.

Blackbeard's is a good place to start, but I wouldn't recommend 10 days. Stay 5 to 7 days then head to Sosua.

Frannie
08-04-15, 16:55
You are correct. All the Haitians you will meet on the North Coast speak Kreyol as their first language. The tiny proportion of Haitians who speak French as their first language are from the educated upper and middle classes and are unlikely to be on the game in the DR.

However a large proportion of the chicas learned some French in school, and even if they learned none, 98% of Kreyol words are derived from French. Most people who speak French (and my experience is with French Canadians not Frenchmen) have found it a distinct advantage with haitianas. Even my very rusty schoolboy French (unused for fifty plus years) was a help.

If you found French no use, I would guess that you spoke too rapidly or, more likely, you were dealing with haitianas who had been here some time and learned some English. These are not the ones NB23 should be aiming for. Once they have been here 3 to 12 months they have acquired all the Dominican bullshit. The best ones are those still with sand on their ankles from having waded across the Rio Masacre.French helps a lot with Kreyol. I was just talking to a Haitian taxi driver yesterday and had quite a good conversation in Freyol, combining my somewhat limited Kreyol with French to plug some gaps. Kreyol is mostly French spelled wrong.

Manny51
08-04-15, 17:27
As you can see, your original post brought out a lot of advice on how to spend your time and your money!

While all advice is good, you can see that mongers here differ greatly among themselves, in attitudes towards our sport, and it would be impossible to take all their advice to heart.

So choose what suits YOU! Other than that, keep an open mind and be open to new experiences. Not everybody down there is trying to screw you. Just as we mongers differ greatly, so do the chicas!Yeah, funny how his newbie request brought out such an opinionated debate. Usually somebody just snaps "RTFF" and rips on other people's opinions. I enjoyed following it. I am just curious as to why it went that way.

Oakie
08-04-15, 17:42
You put them on a pedestal mentally, or you actually had a real pedestal onto which they climbed lika a statue? Surely the former.I'm talking about top shelf girls. I had much respect for their Playboy bods, not so much for their brains!

Oakie
08-04-15, 17:47
Yeah, funny how his newbie request brought out such an opinionated debate. Usually somebody just snaps "RTFF" and rips on other people's opinions. I enjoyed following it. I am just curious as to why it went that way.Good point, Manny!

It just goes to show that your attitude is your destiny.

He was cheerful, polite and curious and appreciative and so everybody wanted to help him.

I find life is a lot like that!

Pip Jaeger
08-04-15, 23:19
It is a two-way process.Yep, we give and the chicas take, LOL.

All kidding aside I agree with what you said. For me I can compromise (to a point) on a girls' looks if her attitude is good.

And thanks guys for a lot of useful info posted lately. Already started brushing up on my Spanish, a few minutes a day and I hope to at least be able get by some useful phrases as well as know whether I'm ordering pork or dog meat for dinner (not that I'd be able to tell the difference as they taste similar, LOL). I'll be finalizing my plans this week. Looks like I may forgo SD and just hit the northern coast for this trip; just 2-3 days at BB, a few in Sosua, maybe a 2 nights at FOD (take one for the team as recent reports indicate they've slid down hill) and then either back to Sosua or to STI.

Durandpaul
08-05-15, 01:20
You are correct. All the Haitians you will meet on the North Coast speak Kreyol as their first language. The tiny proportion of Haitians who speak French as their first language are from the educated upper and middle classes and are unlikely to be on the game in the DR.

However a large proportion of the chicas learned some French in school, and even if they learned none, 98% of Kreyol words are derived from French. Most people who speak French (and my experience is with French Canadians not Frenchmen) have found it a distinct advantage with haitianas. Even my very rusty schoolboy French (unused for fifty plus years) was a help.

If you found French no use, I would guess that you spoke too rapidly or, more likely, you were dealing with haitianas who had been here some time and learned some English. These are not the ones NB23 should be aiming for. Once they have been here 3 to 12 months they have acquired all the Dominican bullshit. The best ones are those still with sand on their ankles from having waded across the Rio Masacre.I spoke too rapidly. I meant to say that most of the Haitians in Sosua speak french mixed with creole and can't speak french without adding words in creole. It was no use in getting me pussy LOL. And you are right, that's because the average hooker isn't educated. I was also hesitating between blackbeards and sosua. But speaking french was the deciding factor of me going to Sosua. I went to the German Bar, but the only women that spoke good french were not my type.

NewbieMonger23
08-05-15, 01:28
Good point, Manny!

It just goes to show that your attitude is your destiny.

He was cheerful, polite and curious and appreciative and so everybody wanted to help him.

I find life is a lot like that!Well I'm thankful that's for sure. I've been a long time lurker and have finally decides to stop dreaming and make it happen! I will definitely brush up on Spanish for the next 6 months and if I enjoy my time at black beards will be doing a second trip to Sosua that's for sure! There are people my age who spend money on gadgets, cars etc and although I have those things women are truly what wake me up in the morning. Not being in a relationship just he sheer sexiness of them and being in a trouble island with hot women drinks and beaches honestly is the best money spent in my opinion I can't wait and hope to meet great people on my journey as helpful as all of you! Just a question how are the TLNs usually? I've read 2 pops but I mean that's not really overnight 2 pops may be quick for me tbh my first round or 2 don't last very long. Just curious?

Thanks

Lonely566
08-05-15, 02:04
If you ever get a chance to watch scam city of youtube you will see most of the bigger cities the biggest scams involve pick pocking. They are many pros. The second is taxis. LOL.

Radpoker.I watched them, very informative.

Durandpaul
08-05-15, 02:18
Duranandpaul wow that sounds amazing man! Is it easy to find fellow Americans or Canadians to hang out with? This is a solo trip so just wondering if fellow mongers are laid back. Sosua sounds tempting man but honestly if I enjoy the DR that sounds like a round 2 trip. I first want to dip my foot in the water and just be in a closed relaxed enviorment with girls and variety. My plan is to not sleep with the same girl the whole trip unless she's outstanding. I'm looking forward to it! Reading all this is getting my excited glad I finally made an account and getting all this feedback I've literally been lurking for years.It's easy to meet people. One of the guy I met in sosua is now a good friend in the US. As long as you act mature and respectful, you will not have problems hanging out with the vets. Just don't be pushy and let the flow going. You can either go to sosua or blackbeards. Both are fine and you will have fun. It's your vacation. My point was to just let you know that not speaking spanish shouldn't be the reason to not go to Sosua. I travel a lot for my job. That makes me comfortable going to new places. When I flew to the DR, I landed in Santo Domingo. Got out of the airport and told the taxi driver to drop me to caribe tours bus station. Then I took the bus to Sosua.

Below are just few things that will help you if you were to go to sosua:

1. Always make sure you agree on how much to pay when dealing with hookers and taxi drivers. If possible show them the money before.

2. Never carry all your money on you. When I travel I wear a short with pockets to hide emergency cash. Put all your cash in the safe as soon as you get in your room.

3. Do not use an ATM is Sosua. I learnt that the hard way. Someone took about $800 from my account. I got it back though. They must have installed a card reader at the ATM near casa cayana. I thought it was safe because it was a bank, apparently not.

4. Do not talk to the local guys. They will either try to sell something to you or beg for money. It's ok to ignore them. There are exceptions, but.

5. Do not buy drinks to a girl you are not planning to fuck because that will add up The best way to get rid of them is to say no. Then most girls talk about mongers. She may retaliate by saying something bad about you to other girl. I just tell them I brought money for 1 beer.

6. Be ruthless LOL. Many girls will just be cockblocker if you do not tell straight to their face that you are not going with them. Just say you have a girl waiting on you in the room, you are drained, or you are waiting on another girl who charges you 1,000 peso for the night. Most chicks will try to make you look like a man working girl because you are fucking many girls. Guess what? They do the same. One of my priceless moment was when I was seating on a table with another monger who was with the chick I banged the night before. That bird was working hard to make sure she doesn't lose both of us.

7. Do not attract bad attention.

8. Do not show more than what you need to pay the girl. As soon as she sees an extra 500 peso she will tell you all kind of stories to get that. That when you say why don't you suck my cock for the 500 peso. I always make sure I just have enough for what I have to pay and some money for transportation.

9. Be respectful to everybody even the hookers. I am not just ruthless when I hear BS.

10. Wrap it up. Catching something at 70 isn't the same as catching something at 24.

11. Its all about supply and demand.

12. Buy antibiotics, I also asked girls to use a mouth wash when I get a BBBJ (I am all about reducing my risks LOL).

Good luck on your trip. I think you had enough advises for your trip. I learnt about sosua when I was about your age, but none of my close friends share my lust for trying different women.

Oakie
08-05-15, 03:59
Well I'm thankful that's for sure. I've been a long time lurker and have finally decides to stop dreaming and make it happen! I will definitely brush up on Spanish for the next 6 months and if I enjoy my time at black beards will be doing a second trip to Sosua that's for sure! There are people my age who spend money on gadgets, cars etc and although I have those things women are truly what wake me up in the morning. Not being in a relationship just he sheer sexiness of them and being in a trouble island with hot women drinks and beaches honestly is the best money spent in my opinion I can't wait and hope to meet great people on my journey as helpful as all of you! Just a question how are the TLNs usually? I've read 2 pops but I mean that's not really overnight 2 pops may be quick for me tbh my first round or 2 don't last very long. Just curious?

ThanksI have no experience with Blackbeards, but I assume you'll get what you pay for with no problems.

TLN in Sosua is a different deal, a 50/50 proposition at best, especially with someone you've just picked up. Once they've done the deed, or got paid, most want out of there.

I think most would agree that a good ST session is the best way to find a good TLN chica.

Anyway, in general, a repeat session is always a good way to get things a little more interesting. They'll do more, and take more time. And who knows? You may want to go back for more!

You may even finish up like me and keep going back to the same one for 7 years, Lol

Enjoy!

NewbieMonger23
08-05-15, 06:06
It's easy to meet people. One of the guy I met in sosua is now a good friend in the US. As long as you act mature and respectful, you will not have problems hanging out with the vets. Just don't be pushy and let the flow going. You can either go to sosua or blackbeards. Both are fine and you will have fun. It's your vacation. My point was to just let you know that not speaking spanish shouldn't be the reason to not go to Sosua. I travel a lot for my job. That makes me comfortable going to new places. When I flew to the DR, I landed in Santo Domingo. Got out of the airport and told the taxi driver to drop me to caribe tours bus station. Then I took the bus to Sosua.

Below are just few things that will help you if you were to go to sosua:

1. Always make sure you
agree on how much to pay when dealing with hookers and taxi drivers. If possible show them the money before.

2. Never carry all your money on you. When I travel I wear a short with pockets to hide emergency cash. Put all your cash in the safe as soon as you get in your room.

3. Do not use an ATM is Sosua. I learnt that the hard way. Someone took about $800 from my account. I got it back though. They must have installed a card reader at the ATM near casa cayana. I thought it was safe because it was a bank, apparently not.

4. Do not talk to the local guys. They will either try to sell something to you or beg for money. It's ok to ignore them. There are exceptions, but..Thanks man! That was a great list I especially agree with the last part seems like I'm the only dude in my group who constantly wants to bang women. I think it's because I don't eat junk food and work out which makes my sex drive stronger then somebody who eats junk all day. This will be a solo trip for sure hope to see some of you guys maybe haha. Oakie 7 years? Wow that's pretty serious I highly doubt I'll even see the same girl twice LOL! Variety is the spice of life.

Member #4716
08-05-15, 12:37
NewbieMonger,

Like you I had asked about sosua or blackbeards. I am glad I went for sosua. I am in my early 30's, I monger because I love pussy and love to bang different women. Big titties / big booties / long legs / etc. The beauty about mongering or paying for sex is I get my nut and can tell the girl to either leave or stay. As long as you can afford the hobby I don't see your age as a problem. For me mongering is about peace of mind. I rather focus on my career and girl. I have no time for other girls.

I speak english, french, and zero spanish. You don't need to speak spanish to go to sosua. Just learn greetings in spanish, and make sure you know how to say or understand the basic negotiation phrases. Like how to say how much, how to count, how to say leave me alone, come to my hotel, I will call you etc.

French did not help me because Haitians speak creole, so that didn't get me anywhere. Most girls understand basic english for negotiations. If you are just going to fuck then you don't need spanish, but if you are looking for GFE, or a girl to chill with and talk then blackbeards may be the place to go. If you just want to do some type of sport fucking, sosua is the place to go even with no spanish.

And when a girl get into your room you can use google translate. My best experience in sosua was with a girl I met a the beach. She spoke no english and couldn't write well in spanish, so google translate couldn't translate well. I bought her a drink while I was eating and getting a massage at the beach. The girl was hot, but I played it cool and when I left she asked to come to my room. I showed her 1,500 pesos and she followed me. After I banged her, she wrote on google translate that she wanted to stay. I told her I only had 700 peso left and was tired. Right after she saw the 700, she crawled between my legs and gave me a blow job for like an hour, til I blow a load in her mouth..How much do you currently pay for each bang? Do you just go up to a random girl on the beach and offer her money for a short time session? How much do you currently offer?

Charles Pooter
08-05-15, 15:06
... maybe a 2 nights at FOD (take one for the team as recent reports indicate they've slid down hill) There was one recent enthusiastic report but that was from a poster whose group filled the place, so may or may not be a reliable test for solo visitors. I will be interested to read your report.

Charles Pooter
08-05-15, 15:14
Do you just go up to a random girl on the beach and offer her money for a short time session? Use some discretion. The majority of chicas on Sosua beach are civilians, often with family or boyfriends. Most of the available girls are strolling the path above the beach, not on the beach itself.


How much do you currently offer?1500 pesos is a rough guide. But better to invite her for a drink first and get a feel for the situation. Any chica who is not put off by agreeing a price within the first exchanges is going to be a hard-core pro. Which is fine, if that is what you want. Not my choice, but we are all different.

Oakie
08-05-15, 15:52
Thanks man! That was a great list I especially agree with the last part seems like I'm the only dude in my group who constantly wants to bang women. I think it's because I don't eat junk food and work out which makes my sex drive stronger then somebody who eats junk all day. This will be a solo trip for sure hope to see some of you guys maybe haha. Oakie 7 years? Wow that's pretty serious I highly doubt I'll even see the same girl twice LOL! Variety is the spice of life.As I get older (and wiser?) I get tired of the hassle and time spent finding, renting and returning, a different car everyday.

I find leasing is cheaper and more predictable, LOL.

Same with women.

Manny51
08-05-15, 16:11
Use some discretion. The majority of chicas on Sosua beach are civilians, often with family or boyfriends. Most of the available girls are strolling the path above the beach, not on the beach itself.

1500 pesos is a rough guide. But better to invite her for a drink first and get a feel for the situation. Any chica who is not put off by agreeing a price within the first exchanges is going to be a hard-core pro. Which is fine, if that is what you want. Not my choice, but we are all different.Yeah, seriously man. Do NOT start going up to random women and propositioning them. Don't be one of those guys that gives Americans a bad name. The DR is like any other country, with the difference being that one vice is tolerated. Except for that, its just like your own neighborhood. If a woman is in the game she will come to you-- BELIEVE ME.

And while we are still promoting advice, I would incidentally a couple of things.

1. Learn to smile and say no gracefully -- in a way that she saves face. That's the measure of mastery of the craft. They talk about you just like we talk about them.

2. As a safety tip, whenever you give money to someone, ESPECIALLY taxi drivers, always show them the bills and look at them together. A few times in Europe, I would give someone 50 euro, and he would just turn around two seconds later and either claim that I "mistakenly" gave him a 20 euro or some other foreign currency.

JjBee62
08-05-15, 17:41
2. As a safety tip, whenever you give money to someone, ESPECIALLY taxi drivers, always show them the bills and look at them together. A few times in Europe, I would give someone 50 euro, and he would just turn around two seconds later and either claim that I "mistakenly" gave him a 20 euro or some other foreign currency.This is excellent advice anywhere in the DR. When I took the Metro bus from SD to Sosua, I handed the woman a 1000 pesos note. She gave me back change for a 500. She argued with me for 5 minutes, and I probably would have lost, except her supervisor was standing right behind her. She ended up doing a count of all her money, then compared against what the computer said she should have. I got the 500 pesos back and a look of pure hate.

It may have been an honest mistake, or she might do that a few times every day, figuring the tourists either won't notice, or be uncertain, or be unwilling to make a scene over $11.

OldKool
08-05-15, 19:14
Good sex happens when 2 people are familiar with one another. I am with you Oak man when you find a good one keep her a little while you get your moneys worth. Sport fucking is great but rarely measures up to a good GFE session.


As I get older (and wiser?) I get tired of the hassle and time spent finding, renting and returning, a different car everyday.

I find leasing is cheaper and more predictable, LOL.

Same with women.

NewbieMonger23
08-05-15, 19:15
As I get older (and wiser?) I get tired of the hassle and time spent finding, renting and returning, a different car everyday.

I find leasing is cheaper and more predictable, LOL.

Same with women.I guess chasing different girls every few hours begins to wear you down eventually haha. BTW I had a questions that's really bothering me I don't know what I should do with the money situation. Should I board the flight leaving Canada with 2500 us in my wallet then exchange it outside of Blackbeards? That's why my plan but seems really risky if something happens in the airport or taxi ride all my money is gone. Is there a place outside of black beards where I can just insert my card and pull out a bunch of pesos? I'm not sure best way to go about this because I know airports are major rip offs!

Durandpaul
08-05-15, 21:52
How much do you currently pay for each bang? Do you just go up to a random girl on the beach and offer her money for a short time session? How much do you currently offer?I was approached by women 80% of the time. I paid between 1500 to 1700 for short time (transportation included) . What's amazing about sosua is most girls are fair game.

I also paid 1500 to 1700 at rumba for short time, my only problem is when I go to classico. My goal is 3000, but on few occasions I have paid 3,500 because you got to be quick in securing who you are taking home.

The way I see it, I have 4 nuts a day. The only critical nut is at night time. I don't have to rush the other nuts because I have plenty of time.

Frannie
08-05-15, 23:44
How much do you currently pay for each bang? Do you just go up to a random girl on the beach and offer her money for a short time session? How much do you currently offer?Whether you meet a girl on the beach, in a bar, or in her place of work, like a dentist office, supermarket, or if she is a waitress, essentially the sequence is the same, and you only progress if successful at the prior stage.

1. Make eye contact.

2. Smile.

3. Say Hello,.

4. Compliment such as "you have a pretty smile".

5. Touch hand or arm.

6. Invitation to join you now or meet you later.

If all theses steps are completed, you can assume that sex is probably going to take place and go from there. These six steps could be completed in seconds, or they could take multiple visits to the DR. But even if she is a hard core hooker it is a good idea to observe these courtesies before discussing sex for money. Of course if she approaches you, then there is little doubt of her intentions.

People say that almost every woman in Sosua is available, but this is a bit of an exaggeration. However, because there are so many hookers in Sosua, it sometimes seems that way. I had sex a few times with a chica whom I met when she was handing out religious pamphlets and dressed like a church lady. I still think about her sometimes and wonder what she is doing now. She was not really a hooker, but she wanted money for a computer.

Frannie
08-06-15, 00:45
I guess chasing different girls every few hours begins to wear you down eventually haha. BTW I had a questions that's really bothering me I don't know what I should do with the money situation. Should I board the flight leaving Canada with 2500 us in my wallet then exchange it outside of Blackbeards? That's why my plan but seems really risky if something happens in the airport or taxi ride all my money is gone. Is there a place outside of black beards where I can just insert my card and pull out a bunch of pesos? I'm not sure best way to go about this because I know airports are major rip offs!I will meet you at the airport and you can give me your money, then each day you can call me and I will give you what you need.

Seriously, bring a few hundred dollars in cash for emergencies and get the rest from ATMs. There is a Banreservas ATM at POP airport outside near where you get the taxi. In town I will use the Banco Popular or ScotiaBank ATMs as they have guards and you can get 10000 pesos. Bring 2 different debit cards if you have them. Copy them to your phone and your passport too.

Avoid the money change place inside the airport.

Husker Dude
08-06-15, 01:01
I guess chasing different girls every few hours begins to wear you down eventually haha. BTW I had a questions that's really bothering me I don't know what I should do with the money situation. Should I board the flight leaving Canada with 2500 us in my wallet then exchange it outside of Blackbeards? That's why my plan but seems really risky if something happens in the airport or taxi ride all my money is gone. Is there a place outside of black beards where I can just insert my card and pull out a bunch of pesos? I'm not sure best way to go about this because I know airports are major rip offs!I usually bring all cash with me, all in different pockets. I cash out at least $1000 us at a time at Yennys, just inside the gate of Costambar on the way to BB. Then put all the money, passport, DL, etc in the safe when I get to BB. Only carry around enough for 1 couple ST's. As others have noted, I carry around a copy of my DL and passport on me. To save a few pesos, pay BB in pesos instead of $. Also there is an ATM outside of Yennys. , however I don't trust using ATM's in the DR, as I've heard of guys cards getting skimmed, etc. Cash is King in the DR.

Pip Jaeger
08-06-15, 01:15
I guess chasing different girls every few hours begins to wear you down eventually haha. BTW I had a questions that's really bothering me I don't know what I should do with the money situation. Should I board the flight leaving Canada with 2500 us in my wallet then exchange it outside of Blackbeards? That's why my plan but seems really risky if something happens in the airport or taxi ride all my money is gone. Is there a place outside of black beards where I can just insert my card and pull out a bunch of pesos? I'm not sure best way to go about this because I know airports are major rip offs!Can't' speak for the DR as haven't been there yet, but I've found sometimes it depends on the country as to whether or not you'll get a much better exchange rate at a bank / money changer vs. the airport; though generally speaking the rates at banks / money changers is usually better. In any event I usually exchange 100-200 USD upon arrival so I have enough to pay for the taxi, buy a SIM card or load if I already a SIM for the country I'm in as well as a little extra for a cold beer or three.

I've traveled and mongered extensively through out Eastern and Western Europe, North Africa, the Philippines and a few weekend trips into Mexico. I've often carried 3-4 times the amount you plan to bring. What I do is take a few hundred for traveling money. I keep that in my left front pocket. The rest I'll simply fold up, wrap with a fresh rubber band and keep it in a pouch that fastens to my belt and can be tucked into my pants. When I go thru the scanner at the airport I remove it and hold it in my hand (some TSA may want to see inside and once they see cash they've never pursued it any further); metal detectors only I just leave it tucked in). I NEVER exchange large amounts of cash all at once, unless it's inside of a bank (even then the most I've ever exchanged at one time in a single location was 1 k USD.

Once at the hotel I'll keep most of it in the hotel safe and some reserve / emergency cash in my suitcase (locked of course). Most hotel safes are notoriously easy to break into, so you may want to invest in something like a "Milockie" which basically locks the safe's door via your own combo or key lock. If the hotel does not have an in room safe / lock box then usually reception will be able to secure your cash for you. Be sure to place it into sealed envelope with the amount written on it and get a receipt (I've only had to this on a few rare occasions at smaller be&be's in Europe).

You can find info about Milockie and purchase it here: https://www.corporatetravelsafety.com/catalog/milockie-hotel-safe-lock.html#/ product /544.

The same company also offers RFID protected pouches, money belts, etc.

Something else to consider. Sanitize your wallet. By sanitize I mean remove everything you don't need for the trip; such as biz cards, Social Security card (or your countries equivalent), club membership cards, etc. I have a separate travel wallet (metal and RFID shielded) where I simply keep a copy of my passport, ICE contact info, my driver's license, one or two credit / ATM cards (depends where I'm going and for how long) and maybe a 50 or a 100 bill tucked in.

I also call my credit card companies / bank card issuer a few days before my trip and inform them where I'm going and my travel dates. Most can set a daily spending limit (if desired) and it keeps them from locking your card unless they see unusual spending activity.

In addition, in case you haven't done so already, I also recommend you password protect your phone. All it takes is one slip up, like getting drunk and passing out or not locking it up before you go in to take a shower, and some nosy chica will have all your private contact info as well as any personal data / other info you may have stored on it.

Charles Pooter
08-06-15, 01:19
Don't be one of those guys that gives Americans a bad name.Actually, he is allowed to do that. He is Canadian. And he won't give Canadians a bad name because, to Dominicans, they are all Americans.

Charles Pooter
08-06-15, 01:24
Can't speak for the DR as haven't been there yet ... etcSome excellent advice here (even if some of it is a bit too technical for this old luddite to understand).

Manny51
08-06-15, 01:26
I usually bring all cash with me, all in different pockets. I cash out at least $1000 us at a time at Yennys, just inside the gate of Costambar on the way to BB. Then put all the money, passport, DL, etc in the safe when I get to BB. Only carry around enough for 1 couple ST's. As others have noted, I carry around a copy of my DL and passport on me. To save a few pesos, pay BB in pesos instead of $. Also there is an ATM outside of Yennys. , however I don't trust using ATM's in the DR, as I've heard of guys cards getting skimmed, etc. Cash is King in the DR.Agreed. Except for eurozone countries and Japan, I am all cash, all the time. I almost never use my ATM card overseas, and I only use credit cards (one low limit one) for larger purchases from clearly reliable vendors. Identity and electronic theft is rampant all over the world.

I know people have all these tricks, like hiding cash in their sock or whatever, but I just use the hotel room safe. I have never had a problem with these (knock on wood). Probably because I never have overnight guests. I can't imagine a scenario where a hotel employee would have the guts to rob your room safe (which the hotel should be liable for) unless there was a HUGE incentive to do so, like a situation similar to Venezuela. And with cash, you get a better exchange rate than a bank or ATM would ever give you. The way I see it, the inconvenience of having to periodically exchange currency is easily outweighed by the better exchange rate and better security.

Frannie
08-06-15, 01:43
Agreed. Except for eurozone countries and Japan, I am all cash, all the time. I almost never use my ATM card overseas, and I only use credit cards (one low limit one) for larger purchases from clearly reliable vendors. Identity and electronic theft is rampant all over the world.

I know people have all these tricks, like hiding cash in their sock or whatever, but I just use the hotel room safe. I have never had a problem with these (knock on wood). Probably because I never have overnight guests. I can't imagine a scenario where a hotel employee would have the guts to rob your room safe (which the hotel should be liable for) unless there was a HUGE incentive to do so, like a situation similar to Venezuela. And with cash, you get a better exchange rate than a bank or ATM would ever give you. The way I see it, the inconvenience of having to periodically exchange currency is easily outweighed by the better exchange rate and better security.I have used ATMs in the DR thousands of times over more than 10 years and not had a problem. However I do use the ones that have 24 HR security guards or are indoors in supermarkets or hospitals. Usually Banco Popular. On the other hand, I have lost cash or had it stolen a few times, or dropped it. Fortunately not very much.

Pip Jaeger
08-06-15, 01:48
Some excellent advice here (even if some of it is a bit too technical for this old luddite to understand).Thanks CP. BTW, saying "old luddite" is an oxymoron, isn't it?

In exchange for some local info I'll be glad to explain the technical parts to you over a cold beer when I arrive (my treat of course. Same offer to other senior members). And Mr. Pooter, I'll try to speak slowly, just be sure to put a fresh set of batteries in your hearing aides. LOL.

I'll PM you with my travel dates once I firm them up. Just waiting on a reply from a hotel in Sousa about available rooms / reservations.

Charles Pooter
08-06-15, 01:53
... get the rest from ATMs. Whenever possible, instead of using ATMs, draw or change money inside the bank at the teller counter during opening hours (which vary from bank to bank).

1) ATM malpractices are comparatively high in the DR. Not bad enough to put you off using an ATM if you really need to, but bad enough to choose the alternative if available.

2) Bad guys and gals sometimes watch ATMs for gringos drawing cash and follow them. Harder for them to do so inside the bank.

3) If the machine eats or spoils your card it is hard work to get the matter rectified, especially if you have no Spanish.

4) At the teller counter, you can ask for small bills and coins. These can be hard to come by in the DR, and a common trick is to say they have no change, hoping you will let them keep the difference. This can mount up to an extra ST over the course of your trip.

For example, if I draw RD $20,000, I will ask for:

10 x RD $1000 bills.

10 x RD $500 bills.

10 x RD $200 bills.

10 x RD $100 bills.

20 x RD $50 bills.

RD $1000 in "moneda" (coins).

If you have no Spanish, best to write this down first. I have printed out a pageful of little slips into which I can insert by hand the total quantity and the number of RD$1000 bills. The other amounts I leave unchanged. Dominicans often have low literacy and low numeracy, even in banks*. Make things easy for them.

*This was surprising to me at first, but I soon learned that half of jobs in the DR go, not to the best qualified person or even to any remotely qualified person, but to a family member or a mistress of someone higher up.

Some are lazy fuckers who will try to send you to the ATM so that they can get back to the important business of showing around the latest photos of their children, but say "Necesito cambio!" (I need change!)

If you are using the ATM, instead of a round amount (say) RD $10000, ask for (say) RD $9900. This will give you at least a few smaller bills.

When paying, do not be an obvious asshole and offer RD $1000 and RD $500 bills every time you buy a beer, but do be a bit sneaky and jump one step. So instead of paying a 47 peso charge with a 100 bill, offer a 200 instead. Instead of paying a 340 charge with a 500 bill, offer a 1000 instead. If you do this throughout your trip you will be able to build up a stock of change.

One downside of using the teller counter is that they will want to see your original passport (or maybe driving licence for Americans?), so it is best to make drawing cash a dedicated outing, straight to the bank and straight back to your hotel to lock up cash, passport and card.

Charles Pooter
08-06-15, 02:12
... saying "old luddite" is an oxymoron, isn't it?

No.

Were you confusing it with "tautology"?

(Waiting for Tempoecorto to home in on this one. He is our standard-bearer for India's reputation for excellence in English).

Durandpaul
08-06-15, 02:14
I will meet you at the airport and you can give me your money, then each day you can call me and I will give you what you need.

Seriously, bring a few hundred dollars in cash for emergencies and get the rest from ATMs. There is a Banreservas ATM at POP airport outside near where you get the taxi. In town I will use the Banco Popular or ScotiaBank ATMs as they have guards and you can get 10000 pesos. Bring 2 different debit cards if you have them. Copy them to your phone and your passport too.

Avoid the money change place inside the airport.Frannie, is banco popular the bank behind casa cayana? You get there by making a right at the first intersection.

If it is. That's where I got my card information stolen. It was the only bank I used during my trip.

Charles Pooter
08-06-15, 02:28
I had sex a few times with a chica whom I met when she was handing out religious pamphlets and dressed like a church lady. I still think about her sometimes and wonder what she is doing now. She was not really a hooker, but she wanted money for a computer.I had one who stopped during foreplay and, out of the blue, asked me whether I had asked Jesus to save me. I assured her I had and we got straight back to it. She was not a hooker either but accepted 800 pesos "for the church funds".

Women, Dominicans and Jesus Freaks are three known categories of crazy, but when combined they make mediocre lays.

Frannie
08-06-15, 02:33
I had one who stopped during foreplay and, out of the blue, asked me whether I had asked Jesus to save me. I assured her I had and we got straight back to it. She was not a hooker either but accepted 800 pesos "for the church funds".

Women, Dominicans and Jesus Freaks are three known categories of crazy, but when combined they make mediocre lays.Mine asked if I knew who created me. I said my mum and dad. She then asked who created them, so I knew we were in for a very long night. The subject was changed to whether she knew how to suck dick. Apparently she had studied a DVD on the topic.

Frannie
08-06-15, 02:38
Frannie, is banco popular the bank behind casa cayana? You get there by making a right at the first intersection.

If it is. That's where I got my card information stolen. It was the only bank I used during my trip.I think so. I have used it many, many times. There is an armed guard there, but of course a guard could collaborate with a scammer. I mostly use the one inside Supermercado Playero.

Durandpaul
08-06-15, 03:45
I think so. I have used it many, many times. There is an armed guard there, but of course a guard could collaborate with a scammer. I mostly use the one inside Supermercado Playero.I thought it was safe though. But I know one time I went there and there was something stuck in one of the ATMs, preventing people to use that machine. I think someone must have installed something on the other machine in order to collect information stored on cards. Then there was a little boy following me at the ATM. I suspect he saw my PIN and he is working with other people.

Parkinsons
08-06-15, 04:14
Hot off the press! Expose' on Sosua's sexual tourism on Dominican TV.

Oakie's post from 2 days ago made a prominent cameo appearance at the 2:22 mark. Congrats you are famous!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7aiJEoialE

Frannie
08-06-15, 05:05
Hot off the press! Expose' on Sosua's sexual tourism on Dominican TV.

Oakie's post from 2 days ago made a prominent cameo appearance at the 2:22 mark. Congrats you are famous!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7aiJEoialESo the prices vary from 1500 pesos for a quick to 4000 pesos for a sleep over and girls can make up to 5000 pesos per day, so that is official! And the girls get to keep very little of what they earn by the time they have paid expenses and sent money to mama. And prostitution is legal there as long as there is no "pandering" (proxenetismo). So now you have it.

NewbieMonger23
08-06-15, 06:01
Hmm this is a really diverse group. From all cash to only exchanging little cash. Thing is I don't feel like going into a bank and doing all that passport BS. My estimated budget was around $90 for girls a day (2ST) food around $25 (each meal around $8) and drinks maybe $30 (not much for me maybe 1-2 and couple for the Chicas) so lets round that up to 150 a day x 10=1500 +hotel 600 (60 x10) that's $2100 US was going to bring like 2500 exchange 2000 at this place that's apparently outside black beards and put away 500 in safe in hotel because I might spend less then 150 a few days so exchange 2000 and 500 is there just for in case. Actually put 400 in safe because 100 will be exchanged at airport for taxi and whatever else, I'm just wondering is 2000 cash dangerous to have in pocket with a taxi driver? Are taxi drivers good guys? I'll be asking black beards to send me one so maybe that's different? Also I'll obviously have more then the 400 on my card for emergencies but just wondering how that sounds? Any feedback? This is so helpful honestly just all the knowledge I've learned from the vets!

Tempoecorto
08-06-15, 13:03
No. Were you confusing it with "tautology"?

(Waiting for Tempoecorto to home in on this one. He is our standard-bearer for India's reputation for excellence in English).Do I detect a whiff of condescension, Dear Charles Pooter? LOL.

Speaking of tautology, an Indian classic is "returning back". As far as I am concerned, I always confused the Luddites with Canaanites. Speaking of my own ignorance.

Oakie
08-06-15, 13:20
I guess chasing different girls every few hours begins to wear you down eventually haha. BTW I had a questions that's really bothering me I don't know what I should do with the money situation. Should I board the flight leaving Canada with 2500 us in my wallet then exchange it outside of Blackbeards? That's why my plan but seems really risky if something happens in the airport or taxi ride all my money is gone. Is there a place outside of black beards where I can just insert my card and pull out a bunch of pesos? I'm not sure best way to go about this because I know airports are major rip offs!As a Canadian myself I find that the best, easiest, safest, and cheapest routine for me is to use only ATM machines. They give you local currency anywhere in the world at the best Canadian bank rate (no interim currency exchange for USA Dollars etc). I get a seniors discount on ATM fees from RBC. But even without that, it still works out best.

Use the ATM at the airport for taxi, tipping, pocket money etc. , and the main ones in town during daylight hours only. You should have 2 cards, in case of a malfunctioning machine. Never, ever use a credit card down there, except to use the ATM.

Only take out your budget for each day, so you can't be seriously ripped off. You don't need a wallet, keep that in your room safe.

Carry your daily pesos and possibly an ATM card only. The other card is in the room safe, for emergencies. Add a photocopy of your passport if you intend to travel outside Sosua.

Now here's where I get everybody's shorts in a knot, again. THIS IS NOT RECOMMENDED FOR AMATEURS!

For convenience I always give my wallet (slimmed down. See PipJ's post below) to my GF as soon as I arrive. She takes care of local stuff, taxis and transportation, and restaurant and bar bills, and propinas. She spends more wisely than I do, always gets a better deal on everything, and because what's left over in my budget at the end of the week, she gets to keep. I don't have to worry about paying a bill in a dark, crowded bar, and counting my change, because all the bills look alike to me. She always checks the bar bills for "errors". She likes the cred she gets for pulling out my wallet and cash (and passport if we are on the raod.

In that wallet is only daily pesos, anyway, an ATM card, and a copy of my passport. I go cash free and that's like an all inclusive luxury for me.

I got a lot of insults here for disclosing that. But my main adversary, Sigmund Freud, a self styled expert, who could write pages of posts on internatiuonal banking regulations never figured out that I am not responsible for fraudulent use of my ATM card, and the daily pesos are hers anyway. LOL.

And, after 7 years, not remotely an issue.

OldKool
08-06-15, 13:48
It was a interesting view of the situation. They talking of creating an official red light district. This is a huge leap for a Catholic country. Never the less cash is king. I was a bit surprised by Cabereti being lumped in with Sosua.


Hot off the press! Expose' on Sosua's sexual tourism on Dominican TV.

Oakie's post from 2 days ago made a prominent cameo appearance at the 2:22 mark. Congrats you are famous!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7aiJEoialE

Oakie
08-06-15, 14:03
Hot off the press! Expose' on Sosua's sexual tourism on Dominican TV.

Oakie's post from 2 days ago made a prominent cameo appearance at the 2:22 mark. Congrats you are famous!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7aiJEoialEYou have a good eye!

I guess that's my 3 seconds of fame :)

Frannie
08-06-15, 14:40
Hmm this is a really diverse group. From all cash to only exchanging little cash. Thing is I don't feel like going into a bank and doing all that passport BS. My estimated budget was around $90 for girls a day (2ST) food around $25 (each meal around $8) and drinks maybe $30 (not much for me maybe 1-2 and couple for the Chicas) so lets round that up to 150 a day x 10=1500 +hotel 600 (60 x10) that's $2100 US was going to bring like 2500 exchange 2000 at this place that's apparently outside black beards and put away 500 in safe in hotel because I might spend less then 150 a few days so exchange 2000 and 500 is there just for in case. Actually put 400 in safe because 100 will be exchanged at airport for taxi and whatever else, I'm just wondering is 2000 cash dangerous to have in pocket with a taxi driver? Are taxi drivers good guys? I'll be asking black beards to send me one so maybe that's different? Also I'll obviously have more then the 400 on my card for emergencies but just wondering how that sounds? Any feedback? This is so helpful honestly just all the knowledge I've learned from the vets!Since you are taking a taxi from the airport to Blackbeards, you can also ask the taxi driver to stop by an ATM in Puerto Plata. There is a drive in ATM at Banco Popular that you pass on the way to Blackbeards, but you could also ask him to take you the more scenic route (this is what I would do) along the oceanfront (Malecon) and stop by the ATM at the La Sirena supermarket complex. And if you wwant to get a cold drink or an ice cream, or buy any prescription drugs at the pharmacy inside the supermarket, you can do that too while you are there. By this means you get a little tour of Puerto Plata scenery, get your errands done, withdraw money, so you get more for your money's worth, it won't cost you any more, and you will be the envy of your fellow guests at Blackbeards who will be overawed by your local savvy.

Yanqui69
08-06-15, 14:58
Hmm this is a really diverse group. From all cash to only exchanging little cash. Thing is I don't feel like going into a bank and doing all that passport BS. My estimated budget was around $90 for girls a day (2ST) food around $25 (each meal around $8) and drinks maybe $30 (not much for me maybe 1-2 and couple for the Chicas) so lets round that up to 150 a day x 10=1500 +hotel 600 (60 x10) that's $2100 US was going to bring like 2500 exchange 2000 at this place that's apparently outside black beards and put away 500 in safe in hotel because I might spend less then 150 a few days so exchange 2000 and 500 is there just for in case. Actually put 400 in safe because 100 will be exchanged at airport for taxi and whatever else, I'm just wondering is 2000 cash dangerous to have in pocket with a taxi driver? Are taxi drivers good guys? I'll be asking black beards to send me one so maybe that's different? Also I'll obviously have more then the 400 on my card for emergencies but just wondering how that sounds? Any feedback? This is so helpful honestly just all the knowledge I've learned from the vets!Here's what I used to do. Never had problems. I always preferred to carry cash versus an ATM.

If you are going directly to BB from the airport, carrying cash is not a problem.

Take a cab, either from those at the airport, or provided by BB directly there.

If you like, ask the cab to stop in front of Jenny's Supermarket once you enter the gate at Costambar (its on the right, can't miss it) and change a little cash there first.

Once you get to BB, check in and pay your room bill in pesos (saves you some money over changing at the hotel).

Put your remaining cash in your room safe, taking out a little as needed, a 10 minute stroll to Jenny's to change money, buy bottles of water, maybe cross the street to the pharmacy for "chemical insurance" etc.

I never had a problem.

Oh hell, no. Don't change money at the airport!

If the cab is from BB, you can pay once you arrive at the hotel.

You won't have any expenses between the airport and the hotel.

The probability of someone robbing you in the cab are negligible, but if you keep your cash in an alternate place (money belt, cargo pocket) and keep a "throw away" wallet, with a few bucks in it, that also helps.

Particularly if you are having the hotel send a cab, you should have no worries about security. A cabbie won't rob you as that will end his livelihood, though he may try to squeeze a little more money out of you. A robbery while in the cab is not a serious concern.

Yanqui69
08-06-15, 15:07
Hot off the press! Expose' on Sosua's sexual tourism on Dominican TV.

Oakie's post from 2 days ago made a prominent cameo appearance at the 2:22 mark. Congrats you are famous!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7aiJEoialEIf the corrupt hypocrites in power there wanted to effectively deal with the sex industry, they'd provide these people with an honest means of earning a decent living. Wage scales there are unbelievably low. Attracting companies that pay a decent wage and providing a decent education would be a start.

Secondly (and least likely) is to teach the men there to support the children they father, and then leave to the women to raise.

Once chatted with a guy in his 60's who boasted of having fathered 20 children.

No wonder the country is so impoverished.

Yanqui69
08-06-15, 15:10
It was a interesting view of the situation. They talking of creating an official red light district. This is a huge leap for a Catholic country. Never the less cash is king. I was a bit surprised by Cabereti being lumped in with Sosua.If "official" districts could also provide some safety / security for the chicas, and require regular medical checks, etc, that would be a plus.

On the other hand, considering this is the DR, I would also expect there will be corrupt officials profiting from this.

Manny51
08-06-15, 15:19
As a Canadian myself I find that the best, easiest, safest, and cheapest routine for me is to use only ATM machines. They give you local currency anywhere in the world at the best Canadian bank rate (no interim currency exchange for USA Dollars etc). I get a seniors discount on ATM fees from RBC. But even without that, it still works out best.

Use the ATM at the airport for taxi, tipping, pocket money etc. , and the main ones in town during daylight hours only. You should have 2 cards, in case of a malfunctioning machine. Never, ever use a credit card down there, except to use the ATM.

Only take out your budget for each day, so you can't be seriously ripped off. You don't need a wallet, keep that in your room safe.

Carry your daily pesos and possibly an ATM card only. The other card is in the room safe, for emergencies. Add a photocopy of your passport if you intend to travel outside Sosua.

Now here's where I get everybody's shorts in a knot, again. THIS IS NOT RECOMMENDED FOR AMATEURS!

For convenience I always give my wallet (slimmed down. See PipJ's post below) to my GF as soon as I arrive. She takes care of local stuff, taxis and transportation, and restaurant and bar bills, and propinas. She spends more wisely than I do, always gets a better deal on everything, and because what's left over in my budget at the end of the week, she gets to keep. I don't have to worry about paying a bill in a dark, crowded bar, and counting my change, because all the bills look alike to me. She always checks the bar bills for "errors". She likes the cred she gets for pulling out my wallet and cash (and passport if we are on the raod.

In that wallet is only daily pesos, anyway, an ATM card, and a copy of my passport. I go cash free and that's like an all inclusive luxury for me.

I got a lot of insults here for disclosing that. But my main adversary, Sigmund Freud, a self styled expert, who could write pages of posts on internatiuonal banking regulations never figured out that I am not responsible for fraudulent use of my ATM card, and the daily pesos are hers anyway. LOL.

And, after 7 years, not remotely an issue.I am sorry if this comes off as personal, because its not. But that might be the worst posting of advice that I have ever seen.

This is an unusual string of conversation, but I'll put my 2 cents in. So here is what I do. When going to BB, I would pay the taxi driver in a PRE-AGREED amt in US dollars. Something like $30-40. Unless you are willing to change your money at the airport, this may be the one transaction that you have to do in dollars. Just consider the $4-5 overcharge the cost of doing business. Once I asked the driver to pull over at Yenny's on the way to BB while I changed money, but in hindsight this was probably a bad idea. He could have just driven off with my stuff. The best idea is to have some pesos leftover from a previous trip (you KNOW that you are coming back!).

Going to an area where there are impovershed people and standing in front of a machine outdoors while you withdraw cash is just asking to be robbed. At Yenny's the cash is exchanged in a room near the back of the store. Buy a soda, and you come outside with no one the wiser. And interestingly, that shop owner is the one guy I have seen who is smart enough to run his business for the long haul. He has a good reputation of giving good rates, and people come to him, who also patronize his store. I remember the first time I went there. After the transaction, he smiled and said to me 'I give good rates yeah? I have a nice store yeah? Tell your friends!" He gets it.

Once you have checked in, your are golden. Yenny's is a 10 minute walk from BB. You may want to walk there for meals anyway, as I found the food to be better deal at some of the restaurants around Yenny's. There is also a pharmacy.

Oakie
08-06-15, 15:34
I am sorry if this comes off as personal, because its not. But that might be the worst posting of advice that I have ever seen.

This is an unusual string of conversation, but I'll put my 2 cents in. So here is what I do. When going to BB, I would pay the taxi driver in a PRE-AGREED amt in US dollars. Something like $30-40. Unless you are willing to change your money at the airport, this may be the one transaction that you have to do in dollars. Just consider it the cost of doing business. Once I asked the driver to pull over at Yenny's on the way to BB while I changed money, but in hindsight this was probably a bad idea. He could have just driven off with my stuff. The best idea is to have some pesos leftover from a previous trip (you KNOW that you are coming back!).

Going to an area where there are impovershed people and standing in front of a machine outdoors while you withdraw cash is just asking to be robbed. At Yenny's the cash is exchanged in a room near the back of the store. Buy a soda, and you come outside with no one the wiser. And interestingly, that shop owner is the one guy I have seen who is smart enough to run his business for the long haul. He has a good reputation of giving good rates, and people come to him, who also patronize his store. He gets it.That's ok Manny, no offense taken.

It was bound to bring out the choir. It always does.

That's why I post it from time to time! LOL.

But somehow I trust an airport mezzanine or a banking plaza, with a guard, over some back room at some guy's store who's name is Yanny, and who "gets" it.

I know some of you guys like to think you are 007 special agents, with "intel", and "sources on the street", on a real "hunt" to track down the elusive pussy.

But get a life. It's only buying a piece of chicken from a buffet counter!

(And you don't need to keep defending you pal, Sigmund. He's a big boy)

Charles Pooter
08-06-15, 15:52
Do I detect a whiff of condescension, Dear Charles Pooter?

Not at all, my Commonwealth brother.

Yanqui69
08-06-15, 17:03
That's ok Manny, no offense taken.

It was bound to bring out the choir. It always does.

That's why I post it from time to time! LOL.

But somehow I trust an airport mezzanine or a banking plaza, with a guard, over some back room at some guy's store who's name is Yanny, and who "gets" it.

I know some of you guys like to think you are 007 special agents, with "intel", and "sources on the street", on a real "hunt" to track down the elusive pussy.

But get a life. It's only buying a piece of chicken from a buffet counter!

(And you don't need to keep defending you pal, Sigmund. He's a big boy)On the taxi question, if the taxi was sent by BB, there should be absolutely no concerns, as he is not anonymous, they know who he is, etc.

On the other option, its questionable that an identifiable cabbie from the airport list, will jettison his livelihood, risk jail, just for the contents of my suitcase.

My cash / passport, cards, etc are on my person, any laptop, etc, is in a pack on my back.

The cambio in Jenny's is not some anonymous guy on the street corner. You think the guy will destroy a successful business and go to prison for your piddly cash?

He is a known entity, has been changing money for years.

On the other hand, there are occasional reports of ATMs being planted with card readers, etc. And outside the airport, I would not feel entirely safe, as any thug could follow you away from any guard posted at the ATM.

Member #4351
08-06-15, 17:50
It seems that NewbieMonger23 has received much more than $19.95 worth of advice. Maybe its time for him to pay Jackson and join the forum:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/ISG_Payments.php?

Frannie
08-06-15, 18:01
Secondly (and least likely) is to teach the men there to support the children they father, and then leave to the women to raise.

Once chatted with a guy in his 60's who boasted of having fathered 20 children.

No wonder the country is so impoverished.There are plenty of men who do this in the US. Maybe you could open a school where they could pay you to give them instruction. And abolish poverty in the US.

Frannie
08-06-15, 18:07
On the taxi question, if the taxi was sent by BB, there should be absolutely no concerns, as he is not anonymous, they know who he is, etc.

On the other option, its questionable that an identifiable cabbie from the airport list, will jettison his livelihood, risk jail, just for the contents of my suitcase.

My cash / passport, cards, etc are on my person, any laptop, etc, is in a pack on my back.

The cambio in Jenny's is not some anonymous guy on the street corner. You think the guy will destroy a successful business and go to prison for your piddly cash?

He is a known entity, has been changing money for years.

On the other hand, there are occasional reports of ATMs being planted with card readers, etc. And outside the airport, I would not feel entirely safe, as any thug could follow you away from any guard posted at the ATM.Can this also happen in the US? I don't think I will use ATMs any more. Thanks for the warning.

Member #4351
08-06-15, 18:12
And Jackson has obtained and copyrighted a great deal of original research and copy for free.1. Keeping the forum up and running isn't free.

2. You spend a lot of time here, if you resent Jackson's efforts the door is open for you to move on.

Frannie
08-06-15, 20:37
1. Keeping the forum up and running isn't free.

2. You spend a lot of time here, if you resent Jackson's efforts the door is open for you to move on.I imagine Jackson makes a living out of providing an online environment where people are willing to donate copy. Nothing wrong with that. Just saying that the new guy does not owe anything as he provided a stimulus that led to a good deal of good information getting posted.

Member #4716
08-06-15, 21:02
I was approached by women 80% of the time. I paid between 1500 to 1700 for short time (transportation included) . What's amazing about sosua is most girls are fair game.

I also paid 1500 to 1700 at rumba for short time, my only problem is when I go to classico. My goal is 3000, but on few occasions I have paid 3,500 because you got to be quick in securing who you are taking home.

The way I see it, I have 4 nuts a day. The only critical nut is at night time. I don't have to rush the other nuts because I have plenty of time.Great info! Gracias.

Manny51
08-06-15, 21:11
It seems that NewbieMonger23 has received much more than $19.95 worth of advice. Maybe its time for him to pay Jackson and join the forum:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/ISG_Payments.php?Can you even enter a post if you haven't paid?

Oakie
08-06-15, 22:12
On the taxi question, if the taxi was sent by BB, there should be absolutely no concerns, as he is not anonymous, they know who he is, etc.

On the other option, its questionable that an identifiable cabbie from the airport list, will jettison his livelihood, risk jail, just for the contents of my suitcase.

My cash / passport, cards, etc are on my person, any laptop, etc, is in a pack on my back.

The cambio in Jenny's is not some anonymous guy on the street corner. You think the guy will destroy a successful business and go to prison for your piddly cash?

He is a known entity, has been changing money for years.

On the other hand, there are occasional reports of ATMs being planted with card readers, etc. And outside the airport, I would not feel entirely safe, as any thug could follow you away from any guard posted at the ATM.Here's the choir!

You're late!

If you guys don't know how to safely draw money out of your bank account. You should spend six months practicing before you come on here, trying to tell others what to do, LOL.

Oakie
08-06-15, 22:21
Since you are taking a taxi from the airport to Blackbeards, you can also ask the taxi driver to stop by an ATM in Puerto Plata. There is a drive in ATM at Banco Popular that you pass on the way to Blackbeards, but you could also ask him to take you the more scenic route (this is what I would do) along the oceanfront (Malecon) and stop by the ATM at the La Sirena supermarket complex. And if you wwant to get a cold drink or an ice cream, or buy any prescription drugs at the pharmacy inside the supermarket, you can do that too while you are there. By this means you get a little tour of Puerto Plata scenery, get your errands done, withdraw money, so you get more for your money's worth, it won't cost you any more, and you will be the envy of your fellow guests at Blackbeards who will be overawed by your local savvy.Good stuff, Frannie.

But everytime we go to La Sirena, we finish up at the phone counter. ;.

I'm happy to buy my love the phone of her choice, but the only argument we ever have is why she doesn't say yes!

"Demasadio caro" she always says, and that's why she hasn't had a new phone for years!

We always walk out of there with the same fuckiing problem.

She cares!

Oakie
08-06-15, 22:27
On the taxi question, if the taxi was sent by BB, there should be absolutely no concerns, as he is not anonymous, they know who he is, etc.

On the other option, its questionable that an identifiable cabbie from the airport list, will jettison his livelihood, risk jail, just for the contents of my suitcase.

My cash / passport, cards, etc are on my person, any laptop, etc, is in a pack on my back.

The cambio in Jenny's is not some anonymous guy on the street corner. You think the guy will destroy a successful business and go to prison for your piddly cash?

He is a known entity, has been changing money for years.

On the other hand, there are occasional reports of ATMs being planted with card readers, etc. And outside the airport, I would not feel entirely safe, as any thug could follow you away from any guard posted at the ATM.I hope you will re-imburse mongers who find that the room at the back of yannies store has been boarded up. LOL.

Oakie
08-06-15, 22:30
It seems that NewbieMonger23 has received much more than $19.95 worth of advice. Maybe its time for him to pay Jackson and join the forum:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/ISG_Payments.php?Well, there's THAT, but he's unleashed a lot of pent up opinion and hate from the regulars here.

I will be happy to pay his membership! PM me!

Frannie
08-06-15, 22:55
Good stuff, Frannie.

But everytime we go to La Sirena, we finish up at the phone counter. ;.

I'm happy to buy my love the phone of her choice, but the only argument we ever have is why she doesn't say yes!

"Demasadio caro" she always says, and that's why she hasn't had a new phone for years!

We always walk out of there with the same fuckiing problem.

She cares!They are way too expensive in there so she is right. You can pick up a new iPhone 5 c unlocked for her on eBay for about 200 us dollars.

Oakie
08-06-15, 23:13
They are way too expensive in there so she is right. You can pick up a new iPhone 5 c unlocked for her on eBay for about 200 us dollars.There was a time when I got tired of her demands for rent, cable, luz or whatever! So I was unavailable to her for a couple years.

So I goes down to Sosua, and gets a new chica. I go back a month later and bring the new chica an Alcatel phone (Galaxy knock-off).

Anyway, I go down there later and mi princessa shows up!

Turns out she and our friends (at the bar) all know about the Alcatel phone, It's a big deal, and turns out also the chica I was banging is the cousin of mi princessa!

Donde este mi neovo telephonica? Says my regular! She is so insulted I treated her like a puta!

Don't mean to bore you guys, but as I've said before3 "There're no secrets in Sosua!

Oakie
08-06-15, 23:36
Since you are taking a taxi from the airport to Blackbeards, you can also ask the taxi driver to stop by an ATM in Puerto Plata. There is a drive in ATM at Banco Popular that you pass on the way to Blackbeards, but you could also ask him to take you the more scenic route (this is what I would do) along the oceanfront (Malecon) and stop by the ATM at the La Sirena supermarket complex. And if you wwant to get a cold drink or an ice cream, or buy any prescription drugs at the pharmacy inside the supermarket, you can do that too while you are there. By this means you get a little tour of Puerto Plata scenery, get your errands done, withdraw money, so you get more for your money's worth, it won't cost you any more, and you will be the envy of your fellow guests at Blackbeards who will be overawed by your local savvy.I'm starting to like you, Frannie!

Wanna date? LOL.

On the other hand, we don't have a lot in common. I actually quit smoking but I have a little cigar once in a while.

And I love a beer!

JjBee62
08-07-15, 00:24
I don't have the extensive and worldwide experience of the experts here, but I'll toss out what I have.

When I went to Bogota I only took $400 in cash, with plans to just use the ATM for my needs. My hotel was paid with my flight as a package deal, so I didn't expect to need much.

At the airport ATM I had my first problem. Even though my card has all the affiliations to make it accepted anywhere, it wouldn't work. The next day I tried every ATM I saw, still no luck. I contacted my bank, but they weren't the problem. Finally I found a Citibank office and it worked fine.

For my DR trip I took all cash. About half was hidden in different spots in Mt carry-on and the rest was on me. The majority of my cash was always locked in the room safe, with a small emergency fund hidden in an unlikely place. I only changed over $100-$200 at a time and only carried what I needed plus a little extra, when I left the room.

I always split my cash between 2 or 3 pockets, depending on how much I'm carrying. If someone picks your pocket, they won't get it all.

NewbieMonger23
08-07-15, 04:53
I don't have the extensive and worldwide experience of the experts here, but I'll toss out what I have.

When I went to Bogota I only took $400 in cash, with plans to just use the ATM for my needs. My hotel was paid with my flight as a package deal, so I didn't expect to need much.

At the airport ATM I had my first problem. Even though my card has all the affiliations to make it accepted anywhere, it wouldn't work. The next day I tried every ATM I saw, still no luck. I contacted my bank, but they weren't the problem. Finally I found a Citibank office and it worked fine.

For my DR trip I took all cash. About half was hidden in different spots in Mt carry-on and the rest was on me. The majority of my cash was always locked in the room safe, with a small emergency fund hidden in an unlikely place. I only changed over $100-$200 at a time and only carried what I needed plus a little extra, when I left the room.

I always split my cash between 2 or 3 pockets, depending on how much I'm carrying. If someone picks your pocket, they won't get it all.I think I will just have all cash pay the cab driver us and maybe exchange to pesos in Blackbeards? Do they exchange in the resort? Also guys I don't want to sound silly but I need some serious advice and if it's rude on this board then I understand and you don't need to respond. My question is do you guys have any tips on solving severe pre mature ejaculation? I don't want to have to get erectile pills because I get erections very easily but I might need them to make the sex last longer. I literally last 30 secs to 1 min I've only lasted more then 5 minutes like once and that was after I've slept with the girls numerous times. I've even tried to masturbate before and still no luck. I just don't know I don't want to go to DR to ST last 1 min 1 Pop and she's gone. Any feedback? I know it's kinda awkward but I really need some feedback is this rare or common? I lost my virginity at 21 and don't have my experience is that why?

Thanks!

OldKool
08-07-15, 06:16
During the day you can just walk into the bank with your card and safely withdraw as much as you want.

During thr


I don't have the extensive and worldwide experience of the experts here, but I'll toss out what I have.

When I went to Bogota I only took $400 in cash, with plans to just use the ATM for my needs. My hotel was paid with my flight as a package deal, so I didn't expect to need much.

At the airport ATM I had my first problem. Even though my card has all the affiliations to make it accepted anywhere, it wouldn't work. The next day I tried every ATM I saw, still no luck. I contacted my bank, but they weren't the problem. Finally I found a Citibank office and it worked fine.

For my DR trip I took all cash. About half was hidden in different spots in Mt carry-on and the rest was on me. The majority of my cash was always locked in the room safe, with a small emergency fund hidden in an unlikely place. I only changed over $100-$200 at a time and only carried what I needed plus a little extra, when I left the room.

I always split my cash between 2 or 3 pockets, depending on how much I'm carrying. If someone picks your pocket, they won't get it all..

Oakie
08-07-15, 12:09
I don't have the extensive and worldwide experience of the experts here, but I'll toss out what I have.

When I went to Bogota I only took $400 in cash, with plans to just use the ATM for my needs. My hotel was paid with my flight as a package deal, so I didn't expect to need much.

At the airport ATM I had my first problem. Even though my card has all the affiliations to make it accepted anywhere, it wouldn't work. The next day I tried every ATM I saw, still no luck. I contacted my bank, but they weren't the problem. Finally I found a Citibank office and it worked fine.

For my DR trip I took all cash. About half was hidden in different spots in Mt carry-on and the rest was on me. The majority of my cash was always locked in the room safe, with a small emergency fund hidden in an unlikely place. I only changed over $100-$200 at a time and only carried what I needed plus a little extra, when I left the room.

I always split my cash between 2 or 3 pockets, depending on how much I'm carrying. If someone picks your pocket, they won't get it all.Your strategy will change depending on your circumstances.

Obviously if I were going somewhere new, like Bogota, I would cover all bases. Make sure I had enough cash, until I found a convenient and safe ATM that worked on demand. Maybe all cash all the time would be the best option there.

In my post I said "as a Canadian" which means first that the money changers are not going to be bidding for my business (Canadian dollars) and secondly I said "my routine" referring to my predictable trips to Sosua over the years.

It obviously would not apply to an American in Bogota. LOL. And I certainly wouldn't let a puta hold on to anything, except my dick. Lol

ATMs to me are just a giant room safe, is all, Take out only what you need, when you need it!

Frannie
08-07-15, 12:51
I think I will just have all cash pay the cab driver us and maybe exchange to pesos in Blackbeards? Do they exchange in the resort? Also guys I don't want to sound silly but I need some serious advice and if it's rude on this board then I understand and you don't need to respond. My question is do you guys have any tips on solving severe pre mature ejaculation? I don't want to have to get erectile pills because I get erections very easily but I might need them to make the sex last longer. I literally last 30 secs to 1 min I've only lasted more then 5 minutes like once and that was after I've slept with the girls numerous times. I've even tried to masturbate before and still no luck. I just don't know I don't want to go to DR to ST last 1 min 1 Pop and she's gone. Any feedback? I know it's kinda awkward but I really need some feedback is this rare or common? I lost my virginity at 21 and don't have my experience is that why?

Thanks!If you change your money at BB, your vacation could cost you 10% more.

The other matter is more complex. I would try taking some Viagra. If it works it works, and if it doesn't it doesn't. Only costs a buck or two. Get girl to give you a full body massage for half an hour to get you relaxed. Let her touch your dick, but keep stopping her before you come. Ask the girl for her suggestions on lasting longer. Have a threesome. Pig out on sex and forget about this problem. Have the girl get on top.

Probably you just get over excited. This will probably wear off naturally with time.

Frannie
08-07-15, 13:48
My question is do you guys have any tips on solving severe pre mature ejaculation? I don't want to have to get erectile pills because I get erections very easily but I might need them to make the sex last longer. I literally last 30 secs to 1 min I've only lasted more then 5 minutes like once and that was after I've slept with the girls numerous times. ..Any feedback? I know it's kinda awkward but I really need some feedback is this rare or common? I lost my virginity at 21 and don't have my experience is that why?

Thanks!On reflection, this is part of why I don't think it is a such a good idea for people to get into sex for pay at a young age, like before 35. When I mentioned this before, you said you were sexually experienced and had made a decision to devote yourself to your career rather than pursuing relationships, or something like that, I don't remember the exact wording.

Now it seems likely that you have never been in love and have never lived with a woman, which are kind of basic components of what it means to be sexually experienced. You can probably get over your problem of coming too quickly by practicing the sex act at Blackbeards, but it would be better to overcome it in the context of a relationship, where you can get to the point that sex is a natural part of life and not something that has to be quantified in terms of how many minutes you last, or how many strokes it takes to make a woman come, or stuff like that. These things are not really important, because good sex is to do with two people communicating each other's needs to each other and providing mutual satisfaction, not running a stopwatch on your fucking so as to be able to compare it with someone else's numbers. Maybe I am naive or old-fashioned, but I think these things can be learned better in the context of a "normal" "romantic" relationship than in a pay-for-sex environment. However at BB you may meet quite a few very nice girls who would be happy to help with this problem, them having a lot more experience than you, but you will be very vulnerable to falling in love with the first one who really hits the spot for you. Or if you do learn to be sexually skilled first in a pay-for-sex environment, it could be difficult to transfer the skills to a regular relationship. On this last point, I don't know, I am just speculating.

Oakie
08-07-15, 13:50
If you change your money at BB, your vacation could cost you 10% more.

The other matter is more complex. I would try taking some Viagra. If it works it works, and if it doesn't it doesn't. Only costs a buck or two. Get girl to give you a full body massage for half an hour to get you relaxed. Let her touch your dick, but keep stopping her before you come. Ask the girl for her suggestions on lasting longer. Have a threesome. Pig out on sex and forget about this problem. Have the girl get on top.

Probably you just get over excited. This will probably wear off naturally with time.It's normal for a young guy.

He should enjoy it while he can, because once he's older, he may be banging for an hour before gets off, LOL.

If she's THAT good, just climb back on. He needs to find a TLN who's up to it.

Frannie
08-07-15, 13:56
It's normal for a young guy.Yes, and no. If that is the case, is aging the only cure? I would agree that it is normal on a first sexual encounter, but usually things get better on the second or third go round. There is an interesting, if banal, description of this phenomenon in "Jaws", the book by Peter Benchley, not the Spielberg movie.

JjBee62
08-07-15, 14:49
I think I will just have all cash pay the cab driver us and maybe exchange to pesos in Blackbeards? Do they exchange in the resort? Also guys I don't want to sound silly but I need some serious advice and if it's rude on this board then I understand and you don't need to respond. My question is do you guys have any tips on solving severe pre mature ejaculation? I don't want to have to get erectile pills because I get erections very easily but I might need them to make the sex last longer. I literally last 30 secs to 1 min I've only lasted more then 5 minutes like once and that was after I've slept with the girls numerous times. I've even tried to masturbate before and still no luck. I just don't know I don't want to go to DR to ST last 1 min 1 Pop and she's gone. Any feedback? I know it's kinda awkward but I really need some feedback is this rare or common? I lost my virginity at 21 and don't have my experience is that why?

Thanks!They do exchange at Blackbeard's. When I was there, the rate at BBs was 42.50, the rate most other places was 44.50. Over your entire stay, you're paying the hotel for 2ST sessions if you exchange all your money with them. To get your money's worth you might want to jerk off in the lobby twice. Take the advice of the others, stop somewhere and exchange about $500. When you run low, just walk up to Jenny's and exchange some more.

For your other problem, it's all in your mind. Slow down, take it easy, there's no hurry. When you get too excited, just stop, switch it up and do other things.

Your local sex supply store probably carries several creams which you can use to desensitize the area, they also carry thicker condoms to help, and you definitely want to bring your own condoms.

You can also use prescription pain pills. I've found that when I take Darvocet, it's going to take a lot to finish me off. If you can't get a prescription, just stop at "La Farmacia" on the way to BBs. You can ask for Viagra or Cialis by name, or by the drug name, or you can get the branded generics, La Pela for Viagra or Mambo 36 for Cialis. At your age, 3 or 4 of the Mambos will be plenty, take one every 3 days. While you're there, buy some ibuprofen. You will only need 1 per day. They will give you 800 MG pills. Take one before you head down to pick out your first conquest of the day.

The combination of the 2 pills should help with the premature ejaculation, and if not, you should be able to recover in just a few minutes and go for a quick round 2.

Member #4351
08-07-15, 15:24
Can you even enter a post if you haven't paid?If he is a "regular member" and when you click on his name it doesn't say "Private Message" underneath, it means he hasn't paid. Ex. the Indian thread posters with one or two posts.

At this time in the morning, here is who is on the forum: Online Users: 626.

Members: 97.

Guests: 529.

That gives you an idea of proportions. Among the Members are the cheapskates who have registered but haven't paid.

Yanqui69
08-07-15, 15:26
I don't have the extensive and worldwide experience of the experts here, but I'll toss out what I have.

When I went to Bogota I only took $400 in cash, with plans to just use the ATM for my needs. My hotel was paid with my flight as a package deal, so I didn't expect to need much.

At the airport ATM I had my first problem. Even though my card has all the affiliations to make it accepted anywhere, it wouldn't work. The next day I tried every ATM I saw, still no luck. I contacted my bank, but they weren't the problem. Finally I found a Citibank office and it worked fine.

For my DR trip I took all cash. About half was hidden in different spots in Mt carry-on and the rest was on me. The majority of my cash was always locked in the room safe, with a small emergency fund hidden in an unlikely place. I only changed over $100-$200 at a time and only carried what I needed plus a little extra, when I left the room.

I always split my cash between 2 or 3 pockets, depending on how much I'm carrying. If someone picks your pocket, they won't get it all."Extensive worldwide experience?

"Bond, James Bond".

But seriously folks.

A lot of guys are up on the latest way of doing things, but I retain a healthy skepticism of technology. Its a great thing, - until it doesn't work. I also prefer cash in the DR, though it might change in other locations.

I only carry back up credit cards for an emergency, - air fare, rental car, etc.

Every "critical" item (money, passport, cards, cell, etc) is on my person. In a questionable place, I carry a throw-away wallet with just a little money in the back pocket.

Laptop in a pack carried over my shoulder. Luggage only has clothing, incidentals, nothing critical.

The concern with cash is robbery, and I spend minimal time outside with cash. Directly to hotel, where it goes in safe with my passport, cards, cell, etc.

I only carry in my pockets what I am prepared to lose, and in alternate locations. Velcro closures are good against pickpockets. And again, a throw away wallet with lots of small bills, a small total.

And it may be antiquated, but if its a real concern, traveler's checks are maybe old-fashioned, but carrying a few as back up to change in a bank is an option.

Separate tip: Potable water. As a backup option, (brushing teeth, etc.) consider a tiny bottle with an ounce or so of old-fashioned chlorine bleach. Add a few drops, swish it around and wait a few minutes. A few drops will treat a liter of water, for brushing, or drinking when bottled water is not handy.

Yanqui69
08-07-15, 15:42
I think I will just have all cash pay the cab driver us and maybe exchange to pesos in Blackbeards? Do they exchange in the resort? Also guys I don't want to sound silly but I need some serious advice and if it's rude on this board then I understand and you don't need to respond. My question is do you guys have any tips on solving severe pre mature ejaculation? I don't want to have to get erectile pills because I get erections very easily but I might need them to make the sex last longer. I literally last 30 secs to 1 min I've only lasted more then 5 minutes like once and that was after I've slept with the girls numerous times. I've even tried to masturbate before and still no luck. I just don't know I don't want to go to DR to ST last 1 min 1 Pop and she's gone. Any feedback? I know it's kinda awkward but I really need some feedback is this rare or common? I lost my virginity at 21 and don't have my experience is that why?

Thanks!Two cents.

If the driver is sent by BB, simply wait till you arrive to pay him. He knows you're not going to run off. Pay in whatever you want, US or pesos. I repeat, once you enter Costambar, Jenny's is a great place to stop, buy some bottled water, and change a few hundred while the cab waits.

He makes his living with BB, so he won't run off with your luggage.

On the other matter.

Premature ejaculation? Ah, those were the days!

No pills, but as a young man, I learned there were creams available to deaden the sensation, and prolong things. You can find such stuff on the net. Rather than shell out for some "stay-long" cream, any cream with LIDOCAINE will do the job. Just go online and search CREAM LIDOCAINE and you'll see what is there.

Apply just a drop or so to Mr Happy's head, and use sparingly. The potential problem is your tool may be so numb, you (or she) may get blisters before you get off.

So use a tiny bit and experiment.

The other alternative is fun, too. Tell the chica you want one time orally, one time "normal. " As a young man, you might be ready again in minutes, but my experience is that the second time is nowhere near as quick. It might cost a little more, but hell, you'll get your money's worth. .

Those were the days. .

Oakie
08-07-15, 16:16
Two cents.

If the driver is sent by BB, simply wait till you arrive to pay him. He knows you're not going to run off. Pay in whatever you want, US or pesos. I repeat, once you enter Costambar, Jenny's is a great place to stop, buy some bottled water, and change a few hundred while the cab waits.

He makes his living with BB, so he won't run off with your luggage.

On the other matter.

Premature ejaculation? Ah, those were the days!

No pills, but as a young man, I learned there were creams available to deaden the sensation, and prolong things. You can find such stuff on the net. Rather than shell out for some "stay-long" cream, any cream with LIDOCAINE will do the job. Just go online and search CREAM LIDOCAINE and you'll see what is there.

Apply just a drop or so to Mr Happy's head, and use sparingly. The potential problem is your tool may be so numb, you (or she) may get blisters before you get off.

So use a tiny bit and experiment.

The other alternative is fun, too. Tell the chica you want one time orally, one time "normal. " As a young man, you might be ready again in minutes, but my experience is that the second time is nowhere near as quick. It might cost a little more, but hell, you'll get your money's worth. .

Those were the days. .Those were the days, indeed!

When I was a young man, hookers were THE SOLUTION to sexual problems.

Now guys spend all kinds of money on drugs, pills, and medications just to get ready to fuck a hooker.

I hear you "retain a healhy skepticism of technology".

I myself, have a healthy skepticism of drugs.

It's OK, I'm getting old, LOL.

Frannie
08-07-15, 17:40
Those were the days, indeed!

When I was a young man, hookers were THE SOLUTION to sexual problems.

Now guys spend all kinds of money on drugs, pills, and medications just to get ready to fuck a hooker.

I hear you "retain a healhy skepticism of technology".. Hookers would suck dick when nice girls gagged at the thought.

Technology? ATM machines have been with us since about 1980, so about 35 years. I remember what a huge boon they were right from the start for international travel, no longer having to get in line in foreign banks that take an afternoon siesta to cash a traveler's check. And not having to get in line at the bank every pay day to get cash to pay the grocery and electric accounts. And now we have young guys who were born after the invention of ATMs not trusting the technology and carrying cash for safety. Ah, well. Such is progress. I am old enough to remember flights before jets and when men walked on the moon--now, that is a technology that I would not really trust for my vacation time. But ATMs, never had a problem in any country.


I myself, have a healthy skepticism of drugs.

It's OK, I'm getting old, LOL.Me too, I am almost into Medicare territory and I don't take any drugs, though I have to admit the occasional recreational sildenafil (viagra) and ibuprofen (Motrin) does help to stiffen the resolve at times for a better fuck. For a younger person the novelty of a new partner alone should be more than enough to get the job done. It takes a real man to fuck a 60-year-old woman, so drugs are allowed. Wasn't it Bob Dole who said Viagra is the greatest marital aid ever invented, because it enables men to fuck women they cannot stand the sight of?

The vast majority of medical drugs do not help with sexual performance, and you can include tobacco and alcohol there.

Yanqui69
08-07-15, 18:04
Hookers would suck dick when nice girls gagged at the thought.

Technology? ATM machines have been with us since about 1980, so about 35 years. I remember what a huge boon they were right from the start for international travel, no longer having to get in line in foreign banks that take an afternoon siesta to cash a traveler's check. And not having to get in line at the bank every pay day to get cash to pay the grocery and electric accounts. And now we have young guys who were born after the invention of ATMs not trusting the technology and carrying cash for safety. Ah, well. Such is progress. I am old enough to remember flights before jets and when men walked on the moon--now, that is a technology that I would not really trust for my vacation time. But ATMs, never had a problem in any country.

Me too, I am almost into Medicare territory and I don't take any drugs, though I have to admit the occasional recreational sildenafil (viagra) and ibuprofen (Motrin) does help to stiffen the resolve at times for a better fuck. For a younger person the novelty of a new partner alone should be more than enough to get the job done. It takes a real man to fuck a 60-year-old woman, so drugs are allowed. Wasn't it Bob Dole who said Viagra is the greatest marital aid ever invented, because it enables men to fuck women they cannot stand the sight of?

The vast majority of medical drugs do not help with sexual performance, and you can include tobacco and alcohol there.I'd have to disagree with Mr Dole; Viagara will help with the hydraulics, but it can't help the libido. If you can't stand the woman and are not attracted, the pill won't "force it up. ".

On the tech question, I won't quibble over chronology, my point is, technology is great, - until it breaks.

Get a card eaten by a machine on Friday evening, get your data stolen by a planted card reader, won't accept the card, etc. You name it.

There's something to be said for low-tech cash. Works under all conditions.

A mix of all options is not a bad idea.

My only suggestion to the lad with the problem of "going off half-cocked" is just a cream with a de-sensitizer.

Don't believe they've come up with a "slow down" pill. Mother Nature takes care of that. Works slowly, but all too effective.

Frannie
08-07-15, 18:19
My only suggestion to the lad with the problem of "going off half-cocked" is just a cream with a de-sensitizer.

Don't believe they've come up with a "slow down" pill. Mother Nature takes care of that. Works slowly, but all too effective.Anything is worth a try. You had the same problem and the cream worked for you. You think the cause is simply that his nerve endings are too sensitive. Well, does he also come off very quickly if he masturbates with a lubricant? If so then you could be right. On the other hand, if he can take his time when masturbating, then the root cause is more likely to be psychological than physical. Anyway, any remedy is worth a try and if it doesn't work for him, then he can try something else.

Frannie
08-07-15, 18:22
No pills, but as a young man, I learned there were creams available to deaden the sensation, and prolong things. You can find such stuff on the net. Rather than shell out for some "stay-long" cream, any cream with LIDOCAINE will do the job. Just go online and search CREAM LIDOCAINE and you'll see what is there.

Apply just a drop or so to Mr Happy's head, and use sparingly. The potential problem is your tool may be so numb, you (or she) may get blisters before you get off..That would really put the dampers on his vacation, so perhaps that would not be the time to try this method.

Mr Gogo
08-07-15, 19:33
Some great info has been given to newbies lately but they rarely listen and do it their way. With this said I've scaled back from reporting because I think there is a certain " break in period" that usually has to occur where a newbie sees what we were trying to tell him. Hell, my first trip in 2006 I discarded all the advice given and did it my way and it completely went south on me. My next few trips I started to appreciate more what the veterans were saying after having boots on the ground. Transportation, money exchanging, girls prices and safety should mainly be shared prior to a first trip. Interacting with girls in the bedroom, sexual performance, etc will be developed over time after several visits to develop your own style. Everyone wants to be helpful and pound their chests proving their monger savvy, but I see it as wasted energy now. The newbie needs to do his own homework by going over the forum top to bottom for the last year and pay his membership fee to be a part of the community and have PM services. Going the back channel (Pm) is an under used asset to reach out to certain members for personalized advice.

As a teenager getting a girl pregnant was a major taboo so it affected my sexual performance because not getting a girl pregnant was on my mind more than having good sex. In my 20's I became more of a style fucker meaning I was just fascinated that I was getting pussy. Watching the dick go in and out, watching myself in the mirror, I would even laugh at girls having orgasms. Having kids and child support was another adjustment I had to make as it made me aware of the financial implications of fucking recklessly. In 2005 I got a vasectomy and it eased some of my sexual worries. The limitations now are that its very hard to have great sex with a condom but safety first. After knowing girls I chanced it in the past which lead to me having great sex with no inhibitions. What I've learned over the last 5 years of having great sex (where you can completely let yourself go and experience that ultimate sex zone) is that it is very intoxicating and addictive and only temporary before other dynamics come into play.

NewbieMonger23
08-07-15, 21:28
On reflection, this is part of why I don't think it is a such a good idea for people to get into sex for pay at a young age, like before 35. When I mentioned this before, you said you were sexually experienced and had made a decision to devote yourself to your career rather than pursuing relationships, or something like that, I don't remember the exact wording.

Now it seems likely that you have never been in love and have never lived with a woman, which are kind of basic components of what it means to be sexually experienced. You can probably get over your problem of coming too quickly by practicing the sex act at Blackbeards, but it would be better to overcome it in the context of a relationship, where you can get to the point that sex is a natural part of life and not something that has to be quantified in terms of how many minutes you last, or how many strokes it takes to make a woman come, or stuff like that. These things are not really important, because good sex is to do with two people communicating each other's needs to each other and providing mutual satisfaction, not running a stopwatch on your fucking so as to be able to compare it with someone else's numbers. Maybe I am naive or old-fashioned, but I think these things can be learned better in the context of a "normal" "romantic" relationship than in a pay-for-sex environment. However at BB you may meet quite a few very nice girls who would be happy to help with this problem, them having a lot more experience than you, but you will be very vulnerable to falling in love with the first one who really hits the spot for you. Or if you do learn to be sexually skilled first in a pay-for-sex environment, it could be difficult to transfer the skills to a regular relationship. On this last point, I don't know, I am just speculating.I'll have to respectively disagree with this. I actually lost my virginity at 21 to my girlfriend. It was long distance and I flew her over to visit me eventually. We were going at it 3 times a day and it went something like this. Round 1= 30 secs round 2= 1 min round 3= maybe 2 minutes on a good day. I only lasted more than 10 minutes one time with her. And it was near the end of our relationship when I started getting used to it. I think it's like those animal tests where the ejaculation times are way faster with a new partner I think it's excitement. Even when I masturbate its over very fast I get too excited. Maybe I'll try creams or pills but I rather solve this on my own and I have 6 months to train haha! Appreciate the feedback and be thankful you guys can last while banging hot chicks it really sucks when it's over so fast!

Yanqui69
08-07-15, 22:17
Anything is worth a try. You had the same problem and the cream worked for you. You think the cause is simply that his nerve endings are too sensitive. Well, does he also come off very quickly if he masturbates with a lubricant? If so then you could be right. On the other hand, if he can take his time when masturbating, then the root cause is more likely to be psychological than physical. Anyway, any remedy is worth a try and if it doesn't work for him, then he can try something else.As you say, its more psychological than physical, depending on his level of experience with sex, he's likely already so mentally excited, a hot woman almost only has to look at him and he could blow his load. The beauty of that is being so young, he's ready again in minutes and the second time will be longer.

For this reason, I would say go for oral sex, to be followed by the main event. A couple hundred extra pesos to the chica, and he gets off twice.

Hell, 500 pesos in the jacuzzi is only $12 US!

The alternative, the cream, he can experiment with. As I said, a tiny bit rubbed into the head is enough.

He can always experiment, starting with a tiny amount, and after the first session it wears / washes off and he can decide how to continue.

The best option is probably the "oral relief" followed by the longer session.

Ya can't lose there.

Ah, the problems of youth.

Frannie
08-08-15, 00:38
The limitations now are that its very hard to have great sex with a condom but safety first. After knowing girls I chanced it in the past which lead to me having great sex with no inhibitions. What I've learned over the last 5 years of having great sex (where you can completely let yourself go and experience that ultimate sex zone) is that it is very intoxicating and addictive and only temporary before other dynamics come into play.This is one of the great unspoken truths about mongering, the elephant in the room, if you like, in many discussions on these boards, and probably one of the main reasons guys lose interest in mongering over time. That and hairy pussy.

Oakie
08-08-15, 12:49
Some great info has been given to newbies lately but they rarely listen and do it their way. With this said I've scaled back from reporting because I think there is a certain " break in period" that usually has to occur where a newbie sees what we were trying to tell him. Hell, my first trip in 2006 I discarded all the advice given and did it my way and it completely went south on me. My next few trips I started to appreciate more what the veterans were saying after having boots on the ground. Transportation, money exchanging, girls prices and safety should mainly be shared prior to a first trip. Interacting with girls in the bedroom, sexual performance, etc will be developed over time after several visits to develop your own style. Everyone wants to be helpful and pound their chests proving their monger savvy, but I see it as wasted energy now. The newbie needs to do his own homework by going over the forum top to bottom for the last year and pay his membership fee to be a part of the community and have PM services. Going the back channel (Pm) is an under used asset to reach out to certain members for personalized advice.A monger board like this one is good for exchanging logistical information, like prevailing prices, where and when to stay, where to eat, how to get around, and of course where to find the chicas.

What it is not good at, and where it is always guaranteed to bring out the pissing match, is dispensing advice to strangers, on personal choices, values, and attitudes.

Everybody ultimately does their own thing, because everybody is different. It's not that they don't appreciate all the advice, it's just that most of it doesn't apply to them.

Just show them where the buffet is. Don't try to tell them what to put on their plate, or how to eat it. LOL.

We all roll differently, as you can see everyday here.

Tempoecorto
08-08-15, 13:22
I hate that military term.

Came to Sosua. For a short two nights stay. I will be on my way back to Santiago by Metrobus this morning.

Casa Valeria had no space so went over to Romanoff. Interestingly, for those who favor the women on the hotel premises bit, might find this place interesting now. Lots of women rent rooms here in one specific wing facing the main street. So while lounging at the entry, I found one around 4 PM yesterday, that appealed to me, look wise but once inside had the usual, no to this and no to that. So attitude is a big thing for me and she scored low. There were many others too but by the time I come to Sosua, my libido has waned and I do not have the time.

The main drag was rather quiet on Thursday night. Last night I went to eat at an Italian place, next to Mamajuana cafe. Had a nice plate of pasta. As I was eating, a girl was walking by, recognized me and came and said Hello. Once my meal was over, I called her and we went back to the hotel for an hour. She too stays at Romanoff, speaking of coincidence. In general, Sosua is live and kicking. Not too many males and plenty of women. I stayed away from Rumba, that effing music kills me, except the ribs of the rumba guy, which were delectable that I ate on Thursday night.

By the way, the other side of mamajuana, there is a bar and at least 3-4 pretty, slim young women who were belting songs of Romeo Santos, on full blast as usual. I checked but their job apparently is to persuade you to buy drinks. I told one, I would buy one in exchange of her phone number. She demurred. Others on this forum may get luckier. Pretty women, Santiaguera kind!

Manny51
08-08-15, 22:32
A monger board like this one is good for exchanging logistical information, like prevailing prices, where and when to stay, where to eat, how to get around, and of course where to find the chicas.

What it is not good at, and where it is always guaranteed to bring out the pissing match, is dispensing advice to strangers, on personal choices, values, and attitudes.

Everybody ultimately does their own thing, because everybody is different. It's not that they don't appreciate all the advice, it's just that most of it doesn't apply to them.

Just show them where the buffet is. Don't try to tell them what to put on their plate, or how to eat it. LOL.

We all roll differently, as you can see everyday here.I beg to differ, sir.

That kind of discussion is what this board is all about. Yes, it is about logistics information. I always turn here when visiting a place I haven't been yet. But its also about discussion about philosophy and approaches. When posters give unsolicitied advice, the answers are rhetorical in nature, and not meant to be "telling anybody what to do. ".

Personally, what I can't stand are overly detailed field reports. If I want soft core porn, I'll read penthouse letters. And all these photos. Close ups of crotches. And guys showing pictures of girl they are in head over heels love with, and they look like a cow. JC.

Frannie
08-09-15, 01:52
I beg to differ, sir.

That kind of discussion is what this board is all about. Yes, it is about logistics information. I always turn here when visiting a place I haven't been yet. But its also about discussion about philosophy and approaches. When posters give unsolicitied advice, the answers are rhetorical in nature, and not meant to be "telling anybody what to do. ".

Personally, what I can't stand are overly detailed field reports. If I want soft core porn, I'll read penthouse letters. And all these photos. Close ups of crotches. And guys showing pictures of girl they are in head over heels love with, and they look like a cow. JC.Exactly. Any advice offered is only notionally addressed to the OP, but is just in the nature of an open discussion that may be enjoyed by many lurkers who never contribute a word.

Oakie
08-09-15, 12:01
I beg to differ, sir.

That kind of discussion is what this board is all about. Yes, it is about logistics information. I always turn here when visiting a place I haven't been yet. But its also about discussion about philosophy and approaches. When posters give unsolicitied advice, the answers are rhetorical in nature, and not meant to be "telling anybody what to do. ".

Personally, what I can't stand are overly detailed field reports. If I want soft core porn, I'll read penthouse letters. And all these photos. Close ups of crotches. And guys showing pictures of girl they are in head over heels love with, and they look like a cow. JC.Personally, what I can't stand are posts which contain overly detailed complaints about what other posters post, LOL.

Oakie
08-09-15, 12:10
I hate that military term!Thanks for the report. Sosua alive and well is always good.

I too hate that term, Boots on the Ground.

Sounds like a military expedition, with drills, manuals, a years training etc.

I go there for fun!

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08-09-15, 12:17
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Sammon
08-09-15, 14:05
It's normal for a young guy.

He should enjoy it while he can, because once he's older, he may be banging for an hour before gets off, LOL.

If she's THAT good, just climb back on. He needs to find a TLN who's up to it.First of all I do not believe a young guy should take a trip exclusively for mongering whatever his sexual hang ups are?

He needs to experience normal girlfriends. It is a learning curve. Yes, there are times before the age of Viagra I have failed. Why? I do not know. Maybe I am interested in the girl or alcohol or any number of factors. Yes girls do seem disappointed and ask me if I do not like them. But there are some who are patient and arouse me and we have great sex. Very seldom you will find patient girls in P4 P situation. Over time we get confident and can perform in any situations. By dating normal girls we find out every girl is different when it comes to sex.

Personally I like young girls irrespective of how old I am. They are juicy, fun to be with and can be taught how to have fun. This is the reason I make frequent trips to mongering destinations. Majority of the girls are normal ones I meet at dating sites. Irrespective of what they write in their profile they all enjoy sex with whoever. Some teach me good sex as well like a 18 year old in Costa Rica with big boobs. She is telling me how I should handle her boobs when she is on top of me. Couple of girls in China teaching me art of cow girl sex. It is all learning. Prostitutes unless they are into you do not have the patience to make sure you are happy. If you last only a few seconds it is better for them.

Oakie
08-09-15, 14:27
First of all I do not believe a young guy should take a trip exclusively for mongering whatever his sexual hang ups are?

He needs to experience normal girlfriends. It is a learning curve. Yes, there are times before the age of Viagra I have failed. Why? I do not know. Maybe I am interested in the girl or alcohol or any number of factors. Yes girls do seem disappointed and ask me if I do not like them. But there are some who are patient and arouse me and we have great sex. Very seldom you will find patient girls in P4 P situation. Over time we get confident and can perform in any situations. By dating normal girls we find out every girl is different when it comes to sex.

Personally I like young girls irrespective of how old I am. They are juicy, fun to be with and can be taught how to have fun. This is the reason I make frequent trips to mongering destinations. Majority of the girls are normal ones I meet at dating sites. Irrespective of what they write in their profile they all enjoy sex with whoever. Some teach me good sex as well like a 18 year old in Costa Rica with big boobs. She is telling me how I should handle her boobs when she is on top of me. Couple of girls in China teaching me art of cow girl sex. It is all learning. Prostitutes unless they are into you do not have the patience to make sure you are happy. If you last only a few seconds it is better for them.That's why I prefer a regular. After 7 years we are fine tuned to each other's needs. And not just about sex.

What activities we like, which people we like to be around (mostly family, friends, but no mongers) how much alcohol we drink, when we are tired and ready for bed, when we are hungry, when we want to go out, and when we want to stay home. When we rise in the morning.

All important in an ongoing relationship.

The only habit we don't share is she likes a siesta from 4 to 6, which is when I go to the bar, have a beer, and look around, say hello to a monger, and try to stay out of trouble :)

Tempoecorto
08-09-15, 14:56
He needs to experience normal girlfriends. It is a learning curve.I am with you completely. A regular woman will teach and learn together and will be patient. Looking for paid sex at an young age is counterproductive.

The Sosua experience this time itself was a pointer. There are boundaries everywhere which stifles exploration, an important part of quality sex, not just hump and dump. Sure it takes time and other resources but boy, is it worth?

On the other hand, as Oakie (and Gogo, his post was insightful) states, we can opine as much as we want but history never teaches anything.

Tempoecorto
08-09-15, 15:18
I was sitting at the entry of the Sosua hotel and shooting the breeze with Andre', a gentleman Frannie knew. Another person came down and sat down. He looked disheveled and slowly I hear this story from Andre's questioning that he was taken to an ATM machine by a man at gunpoint, but the saving grace was that the ATM limits withdrawal, so his loss was limited to $1000. Now knowing that I am not in Iraq or Syria, I was rather surprised and asked him more questions. It turned out that he had a regular woman who got too close to him and knew all his details and then he dumped her who apparently then planned this with some man she knows. Take whatever lesson you want to take from this, but I who go into territories in the DR, the Sosua wanderers would not dare into, have not found the place that "dangerous". Or, perhaps I am lucky. My skin color does not flag any attention for anyone compared to the white skins that are associated with money. Indeed I have never had bad experience anywhere, except my maiden voyage to Rome, where my passport was stolen, many many moons ago.

Interestingly, this gentleman, a nice man from around the Eastern Seaboard, asked me to go to Rumba (when I mentioned that I did not find anyone worth bringing back) to check women. Clearly you are only looking for professionals who may have more than one game to play. Any day, a regular woman, ideally young, as Sammon mentions. .

Parkinsons
08-09-15, 16:34
My skin color does not flag any attention for anyone compared to the white skins that are associated with money. Your skin color may not, but you better start toning down the way you dress, and accessorize.

Oakie
08-09-15, 17:11
I was sitting at the entry of the Sosua hotel and shooting the breeze with Andre', a gentleman Frannie knew. Another person came down and sat down. He looked disheveled and slowly I hear this story from Andre's questioning that he was taken to an ATM machine by a man at gunpoint, but the saving grace was that the ATM limits withdrawal, so his loss was limited to $1000. Now knowing that I am not in Iraq or Syria, I was rather surprised and asked him more questions. It turned out that he had a regular woman who got too close to him and knew all his details and then he dumped her who apparently then planned this with some man she knows. Take whatever lesson you want to take from this, but I who go into territories in the DR, the Sosua wanderers would not dare into, have not found the place that "dangerous". Or, perhaps I am lucky. My skin color does not flag any attention for anyone compared to the white skins that are associated with money. Indeed I have never had bad experience anywhere, except my maiden voyage to Rome, where my passport was stolen, many many moons ago.

Interestingly, this gentleman, a nice man from around the Eastern Seaboard, asked me to go to Rumba (when I mentioned that I did not find anyone worth bringing back) to check women. Clearly you are only looking for professionals who may have more than one game to play. Any day, a regular woman, ideally young, as Sammon mentions. .He mixed a few things, there.

Foreign country, a hooker, money, and he made an enemy on an opponent's turf, a woman scorned, bent on revenge! A volatile mix!

Unfortunately not a brew guaranteed to bring the same level of tranquility as lying on the couch watching NFL football all day!

Mr Gogo
08-09-15, 17:33
He mixed a few things, there.

Foreign country, a hooker, money, and he made an enemy, a woman scorned, bent on revenge!

Unfortunately not a brew guaranteed to bring the same level of tranquility as lying on the couch watching NFL football all day!Actually Tempoecorto reported on the new crime in the DR. An American was killed a few months ago in Santiago for his laptop, cash, and possibly his ATM card and code. He was found bound and gagged and it could have been a scorned lover. The police have been investigating but so far no closure, hopefully they will be caught soon.

I've stopped letting girls in my room use my laptop to get online, saying that I don't own a laptop. In the Sosua kidnapping they probably knew he carried his wallet and ATM card with him regularly, from the girl. Fellas don't take these girls with you when you do banking transactions.

Also stay in a hotel with good security and responsible guards. My last trip I stayed at Garant in Boca Chica and this Haitian girl was raising hell with a guest on the property. Me and two other dudes are looking at the Haitian security guard telling him to remove the girl but he just sat there and did nothing. It made me realize that anyone could probably knock on my door and put a gun to my head and walk me to my safe very easily. Make sure that security has a history of protecting the guests and are not just there to sleep and see nothing.

Yanqui69
08-10-15, 00:12
Actually Tempoecorto reported on the new crime in the DR. An American was killed a few months ago in Santiago for his laptop, cash, and possibly his ATM card and code. He was found bound and gagged and it could have been a scorned lover. The police have been investigating but so far no closure, hopefully they will be caught soon.

I've stopped letting girls in my room use my laptop to get online, saying that I don't own a laptop. In the Sosua kidnapping they probably knew he carried his wallet and ATM card with him regularly, from the girl. Fellas don't take these girls with you when you do banking transactions.

Also stay in a hotel with good security and responsible guards. My last trip I stayed at Garant in Boca Chica and this Haitian girl was raising hell with a guest on the property. Me and two other dudes are looking at the Haitian security guard telling him to remove the girl but he just sat there and did nothing. It made me realize that anyone could probably knock on my door and put a gun to my head and walk me to my safe very easily. Make sure that security has a history of protecting the guests and are not just there to sleep and see nothing.Just butting in with more unsolicited comments.

I would have spoken to the management about the guard.

If wishing to avoid problems, I might have waited til the end of my stay, but I would have raised the issue.

Oakie
08-10-15, 01:02
Actually Tempoecorto reported on the new crime in the DR. An American was killed a few months ago in Santiago for his laptop, cash, and possibly his ATM card and code. He was found bound and gagged and it could have been a scorned lover. The police have been investigating but so far no closure, hopefully they will be caught soon.

I've stopped letting girls in my room use my laptop to get online, saying that I don't own a laptop. In the Sosua kidnapping they probably knew he carried his wallet and ATM card with him regularly, from the girl. Fellas don't take these girls with you when you do banking transactions.

Also stay in a hotel with good security and responsible guards. My last trip I stayed at Garant in Boca Chica and this Haitian girl was raising hell with a guest on the property. Me and two other dudes are looking at the Haitian security guard telling him to remove the girl but he just sat there and did nothing. It made me realize that anyone could probably knock on my door and put a gun to my head and walk me to my safe very easily. Make sure that security has a history of protecting the guests and are not just there to sleep and see nothing.Always good advice Mr G. Mongers should take heed!

I tend to make light of actually how dangerous it can be for some folks, but believe me, just as I am a "defensive" driver, I am a "defensive" monger.

I learned my mongering in my home town, and I can tell you it can be a really dangerous and seedy business here, because it is illegal. So add cops to your enemies list of ho's pimps and other criminals, Lol. . If you are ripped off, or set up for a sting, you have nobody to turn to. So to me Sosua is actually monger friendly, and by observing a few rules, I feel very, very safe there.

I don't put myself in situations where I am not in control, and breaking off with a woman can be a difficult and costly problem anywhere. It must be done right. In my main life relationships, I have always had an exit strategy, a Plan B. Otherwise you are a prisoner of circumstances beyond your control, I stay friends with 'em! (The Seinfeld Rule - It's NOT you, it's ME!)

My insurance rates are low, and my ex wife payouts were minimal, (for god sakes you guys, wait till the kids are grown!) but we know guys who have to pay through the nose to get insured, and give up half their livelihood to get free from some biatch.

Some things can be learned, but you can't teach common sense. AS P.T Barnum said, There's a sucker born every minute., and I think that should be emblazed on the DR flag, Lol

RocheBrazi
08-10-15, 02:47
Well that could happen everywhere in the world. I could go here in Europe to a ATM and some random thief could gunpoint at them to withdrawl all my cash. That could happen without I made the GF froma dominican ladron angry or something.

I do not think that is daily buisness in sosua neighter in the whole dr, menos celoso ex novias that let their ex husband / boyfriend get murdered for a few pesos.

Once I was with a friend from me in spain on vacation. Just a buddy vacation to get drunk as much. We both had serious relationships and was not in mood to monger or anything. We was in the disco and late at night I could not find mi friend. I found him in the hotel in his bed. Not too bad.

But the next morning he could not find his cell phone.

He remebered he got harrased by a african looking puta that offered todo includo anal por buen precio in the shruberry etc. He refused. She did in the end pickpocked him. Basically she would ahve pickpocked him anyway and not fucked his John even if he wanted to. Guess his cell made the round to all native africans in spain during the night. And when he woke up with a hangover he had a 5000 euro bill from his provider.

Even without dealing with putas you can get ripped off like hell.

You never be save of any crime. But the best thing to avoid is stay at home or do not get drunk and do not give to much personal info to anyone in a foreign county.


I was sitting at the entry of the Sosua hotel and shooting the breeze with Andre', a gentleman Frannie knew. Another person came down and sat down. He looked disheveled and slowly I hear this story from Andre's questioning that he was taken to an ATM machine by a man at gunpoint, but the saving grace was that the ATM limits withdrawal, so his loss was limited to $1000. Now knowing that I am not in Iraq or Syria, I was rather surprised and asked him more questions. It turned out that he had a regular woman who got too close to him and knew all his details and then he dumped her who apparently then planned this with some man she knows. Take whatever lesson you want to take from this, but I who go into territories in the DR, the Sosua wanderers would not dare into, have not found the place that "dangerous". Or, perhaps I am lucky. My skin color does not flag any attention for anyone compared to the white skins that are associated with money. Indeed I have never had bad experience anywhere, except my maiden voyage to Rome, where my passport was stolen, many many moons ago.

Interestingly, this gentleman, a nice man from around the Eastern Seaboard, asked me to go to Rumba (when I mentioned that I did not find anyone worth bringing back) to check women. Clearly you are only looking for professionals who may have more than one game to play. Any day, a regular woman, ideally young, as Sammon mentions. .

Yanqui69
08-10-15, 15:25
Well that could happen everywhere in the world. I could go here in Europe to a ATM and some random thief could gunpoint at them to withdrawl all my cash. That could happen without I made the GF froma dominican ladron angry or something.

I do not think that is daily buisness in sosua neighter in the whole dr, menos celoso ex novias that let their ex husband / boyfriend get murdered for a few pesos.

Once I was with a friend from me in spain on vacation. Just a buddy vacation to get drunk as much. We both had serious relationships and was not in mood to monger or anything. We was in the disco and late at night I could not find mi friend. I found him in the hotel in his bed. Not too bad.

But the next morning he could not find his cell phone.

He remebered he got harrased by a african looking puta that offered todo includo anal por buen precio in the shruberry etc. He refused. She did in the end pickpocked him. Basically she would ahve pickpocked him anyway and not fucked his John even if he wanted to. Guess his cell made the round to all native africans in spain during the night. And when he woke up with a hangover he had a 5000 euro bill from his provider.

Even without dealing with putas you can get ripped off like hell.

You never be save of any crime. But the best thing to avoid is stay at home or do not get drunk and do not give to much personal info to anyone in a foreign county.
True enough. There are always threats to tourists anywhere. (It takes money to be a tourist, right?)

It can happen in Europe, but in 8 years in Germany, I never felt a physical threat.

Poor countries, especially Latin America, have more people hunting for easy money.

In my own defense, that's why I mentioned I never go out with more than I could afford to lose.

Imagine this guy had his passport stolen. !

I travel direct to my hotel, with cash stashed away from the usual / easy locations.

My cash, cards, documents, are in the safe. I only change money as needed, and carry even less on me.

I personally, don't need a cell on the street, but a local cel with a calling card is a low-risk option.

But then, I enjoyed being "spoon-fed" women at BB, anyway. .

Lil Bear
08-10-15, 20:39
Hey guys,

I am taking a friend to Sosua from Oct. 5th to the 10th. I'm just wondering is this a bad time to go? I haven't been to the DR since 2009. And also will there be a nice amount of chicas to choose from?

Pip Jaeger
08-10-15, 23:31
Separate tip: Potable water. As a backup option, (brushing teeth, etc.) consider a tiny bottle with an ounce or so of old-fashioned chlorine bleach. Add a few drops, swish it around and wait a few minutes. A few drops will treat a liter of water, for brushing, or drinking when bottled water is not handy.Bleach is a banned item by the TSA / airlines; even in the small quantity you mentioned. Besides it always seems to leak (no matter how well sealed or wrapped) and would hate for that to ruin any one's clothes. In addition, many people will think: "Well if a few drops is good, then a few more must be better"; that could be dangerous if your going to use it to purify drinking water.

A better, and much safer, alternative are water purification tablets. They're cheap and readily available at places like Wal-Mart, Bass-Pro, Cabela's, etc.

If you want to go the bleach route then wait till you arrive and buy it there. Bleach is cheap and readily available at just about any local grocery store. I usually do get a small bottle when I travel abroad, but not for purifying the water. I pack a small plastic spray bottle (about an 8-10 oz size one / empty) and mix about a 10% bleach / water solution. Since I don't want to get any cooties (lol) I use it to disinfect the toilet, shower / tub / jacuzzi and sink in the bathroom of the hotel as well the kitchen area if I'm renting a condo.

globalhydration.com/ blog / there-difference-between-aquatabs-water-purification-tablets-and-common-household-bleach.

https://www.tsa.gov/traveler-information/prohibited-items

Oakie
08-11-15, 17:00
Hey guys,

I am taking a friend to Sosua from Oct. 5th to the 10th. I'm just wondering is this a bad time to go? I haven't been to the DR since 2009. And also will there be a nice amount of chicas to choose from?It's hurricane season until the end of November, but they don't worry about hurricanes as much as our MSM do. I've been through a couple. Mostly wind and rain and a few tin roofs fly off or leak, and sometimes the main street floods for a couple hours.

And, there's always enough chicas.

Charles Pooter
08-12-15, 00:52
It's hurricane season until the end of November, but they don't worry about hurricanes as much as our MSM do. I've been through a couple. Mostly wind and rain and a few tin roofs fly off or leak, and sometimes the main street floods for a couple hours.

And, there's always enough chicas.There has not been a hurricane in the Sosua area for over a hundred years.

What is a hurricane in the south of the DR and elsewhere only has tropical storm force by the time it hits Sosua. Never dangerous for those staying in tourist standard accommodation and not travelling. It can put a damper on social life and communications unless you have lined up company in advance, but after one to three days the chicas all come out in force anxious to make up for lost income.

Some years there are no serious storms at all.

Frannie
08-12-15, 01:33
There has not been a hurricane in the Sosua area for over a hundred years.

What is a hurricane in the south of the DR and elsewhere only has tropical storm force by the time it hits Sosua. Never dangerous for those staying in tourist standard accommodation and not travelling. It can put a damper on social life and communications unless you have lined up company in advance, but after one to three days the chicas all come out in force anxious to make up for lost income.

Some years there are no serious storms at all.I think it is not quite that, but something similar. The ocean steering currents nearly always take hurricanes to the south of Hispaniola, and then the high mountain ranges stop them from turning north over land, at least to the point that the eye of the hurricane does not pass over the north coast, though there may still be high winds and torrential rain, depending on the overall size of the hurricane, that can cause flooding, trees falling, knocking out bridges, etc. And other kinds of potentially lethal damage. Fortunately the DR does not have the large number of mobile home parks that makes Florida particularly vulnerable to hurricane damage, though flying tin roofs can become pretty lethal in high winds. If you are in a concrete building you are fairly safe. Of course in the DR you can absolutely count on the power going out--and that is just on a fine day!

Oakie
08-12-15, 09:12
Bleach is a banned item by the TSA / airlines; even in the small quantity you mentioned. Besides it always seems to leak (no matter how well sealed or wrapped) and would hate for that to ruin any one's clothes. In addition, many people will think: "Well if a few drops is good, then a few more must be better"; that could be dangerous if your going to use it to purify drinking water.

A better, and much safer, alternative are water purification tablets. They're cheap and readily available at places like Wal-Mart, Bass-Pro, Cabela's, etc.

If you want to go the bleach route then wait till you arrive and buy it there. Bleach is cheap and readily available at just about any local grocery store. I usually do get a small bottle when I travel abroad, but not for purifying the water. I pack a small plastic spray bottle (about an 8-10 oz size one / empty) and mix about a 10% bleach / water solution. Since I don't want to get any cooties (lol) I use it to disinfect the toilet, shower / tub / jacuzzi and sink in the bathroom of the hotel as well the kitchen area if I'm renting a condo.

globalhydration.com/ blog / there-difference-between-aquatabs-water-purification-tablets-and-common-household-bleach.

https://www.tsa.gov/traveler-information/prohibited-itemsI live alone, and am a frequent traveler, and I always used to forget something if I was in a hurry packing.

I now have a computer list that contains everything I might need on my trip, and nothing more.

Things like a charger, a pen for all the forms, even a toothpick can be handy on a plane. Spare pair of old glasses just in case. Pick up some extra forms as you go through customs, you can fill them in before you travel.

A glance at the list a few days before might remind you to get a haircut, get some USA Small bills from the bank. Wash or replace those tattered shorts.

Also stuff to do at home before I leave like water the plant, take out the garbage, turn the thermostat up or down, clean out the old crap from the fridge.

That sort of thing.

Obsessive? Or just being practical.

Charles Pooter
08-12-15, 14:26
Wash or replace those tattered shorts.Speak for yourself. I do not imagine any other of our gentlemen members have any tattered shorts. If still wearable we pass them on to our house-servants.

Manny51
08-12-15, 16:15
Hey guys,

I am taking a friend to Sosua from Oct. 5th to the 10th. I'm just wondering is this a bad time to go? I haven't been to the DR since 2009. And also will there be a nice amount of chicas to choose from?Agree with the warning about hurricane season. But even if you don't have a full blow hurricane, it can rain a lot. And the tropical pattern of rain is sunny mornings, slowly transforming to rain in the late afternoon and early evening. This can put a damper on your evening plans. Nothing like being at an outdoor when it suddenly starts to pour. EVeryone runs for cover somewhere, and sometimes don't congregate again.

If you are stuck for that week of travel, may I recommend the ABC islands? Aruba, Bonaire, Curacao. They are off the coast of Venezuela and outside of the hurricane zone. It has equatorial weather that is almost the same sunny, rains but not as much as the Carribean, all year round. Its very reliable. If I feel the need for some island "fun" in Sept-Nov, that's where I go.

Of course, your trip to the DR may go just fine. But if you want more of a sure thing, I would recommend ABC.

In regards to the chicas, I imagine nothing would change, since they live there.

Oakie
08-12-15, 21:05
Agree with the warning about hurricane season. But even if you don't have a full blow hurricane, it can rain a lot. And the tropical pattern of rain is sunny mornings, slowly transforming to rain in the late afternoon and early evening. This can put a damper on your evening plans. Nothing like being at an outdoor when it suddenly starts to pour. EVeryone runs for cover somewhere, and sometimes don't congregate again.

If you are stuck for that week of travel, may I recommend the ABC islands? Aruba, Bonaire, Curacao. They are off the coast of Venezuela and outside of the hurricane zone. It has equatorial weather that is almost the same sunny, rains but not as much as the Carribean, all year round. Its very reliable. If I feel the need for some island "fun" in Sept-Nov, that's where I go.

Of course, your trip to the DR may go just fine. But if you want more of a sure thing, I would recommend ABC.

In regards to the chicas, I imagine nothing would change, since they live there.There are obviously chicas there, but if there are putas too, be careful, you might be in for an invasion.

Manny51
08-12-15, 22:31
There are obviously chicas there, but if there are putas too, be careful, you might be in for an invasion.I should clarify. There will definitely be chicas in the DR, regardless of weather, because they obviously live there.

At ABC, there may be some variation based on the season. Because even if they don't have hurricanes, I think that tourism volume definitely goes down all over the Carribean in the summer, so the chica population may go down in the summer, though I suspect not as much as in the upper Carribean. I was speaking mostly about the weather.

Oakie
08-12-15, 22:42
I should clarify. There will definitely be chicas in the DR, regardless of weather, because they obviously live there.

At ABC, there may be some variation based on the season. Because even if they don't have hurricanes, I think that tourism volume definitely goes down all over the Carribean in the summer, so the chica population may go down in the summer, though I suspect not as much as in the upper Carribean. I was speaking mostly about the weather.Got it.

Thanks. (Thought you were talking about chicas in ABC)

So, while we are on the subject, any good mongering in ABC?

Manny51
08-13-15, 00:06
Got it.

Thanks. (Thought you were talking about chicas in ABC)

So, while we are on the subject, any good mongering in ABC?All three places used to be great up until about 4-5 years ago, but have since undergone a rapid decline. Curacao, especially, was legendary. As recently as 5 years ago, I would have said top ten in the world.

But for reasons that remain mysterious, all three have declined, below the party potential in the DR in my opinion.

I guess it depends on how you like to travel. If punting is your primary purpose, than there are definitely better places. But if you enjoy travelling to different places, being a tourist, accumulating stamps in your passport, and in the evening partaking, then ABC makes an excellent diversion.

Despite the punting decline, ABC remains a great destination for general travel. The beaches in most of Aruba are superior to those in DR, and with a much more developed (aka wealthy) tourism infrastructure. Nice restaurants and hotels. No slumming here. Bonaire is a world class diving destination, as in Top 20 in the world period. Bonaire has no other industries. It has very few nice beaches. But it STILL does reasonably well in tourism based solely on diving. That's how good it is.

Curacao is the island that's the most difficult to defend on a tourism standpoint. Yeah, its mainly for punting. The ABC islands are former Dutch colonies, so the laws are similar to those in Amsterdam (except for the drugs). The girls in ABC are mostly Colombian and fly there to staff bars. They don't live there, so the livliness in the scene can depend on whether the girls choose to work there. That depends on lots of things, the level of general tourism traffic being the primary indicator. If you have ever been to SXM, its very similar, though a notch down in overall quality. Are.

If you have never gone, and want to try something different, its a good alternative. Aruba has a zillion direct flights from the US. From there, you can travel direct to Bonaire and Curacao on one of those little Carribean airlines for cheap. The three islands are close together..

Oakie
08-13-15, 03:04
All three places used to be great up until about 4-5 years ago, but have since undergone a rapid decline. Curacao, especially, was legendary. As recently as 5 years ago, I would have said top ten in the world.

But for reasons that remain mysterious, all three have declined, below the party potential in the DR in my opinion.

I guess it depends on how you like to travel. If punting is your primary purpose, than there are definitely better places. But if you enjoy travelling to different places, being a tourist, accumulating stamps in your passport, and in the evening partaking, then ABC makes an excellent diversion.

Despite the punting decline, ABC remains a great destination for general travel. The beaches in most of Aruba are superior to those in DR, and with a much more developed (aka wealthy) tourism infrastructure. Nice restaurants and hotels. No slumming here. Bonaire is a world class diving destination, as in Top 20 in the world period. Bonaire has no other industries. It has very few nice beaches. But it STILL does reasonably well in tourism based solely on diving. That's how good it is.

Curacao is the island that's the most difficult to defend on a tourism standpoint. Yeah, its mainly for punting. The ABC islands are former Dutch colonies, so the laws are similar to those in Amsterdam (except for the drugs). The girls in ABC are mostly Colombian and fly there to staff bars. They don't live there, so the livliness in the scene can depend on whether the girls choose to work there. That depends on lots of things, the level of general tourism traffic being the primary indicator. If you have ever been to SXM, its very similar, though a notch down in overall quality. Are.

If you have never gone, and want to try something different, its a good alternative. Aruba has a zillion direct flights from the US. From there, you can travel direct to Bonaire and Curacao on one of those little Carribean airlines for cheap. The three islands are close together..Great info, thanks!

I spent a day in Aruba, and a day in Anguilla plus some other ports, I was on a cruise with my wife and in those days, it was all foreign to me, and me to them.

I never thought I would be so at home and natural with people in the Caribbean, but I guess it was always my dream. Now I'm ok sharing their little houses with lots of family and bringing my water up from the street for a shower (get it the night before so it has a chance to warm up a bit).

Manizales911
08-14-15, 08:30
I live alone, and am a frequent traveler, and I always used to forget something if I was in a hurry packing.

I now have a computer list that contains everything I might need on my trip, and nothing more.

Things like a charger, a pen for all the forms, even a toothpick can be handy on a plane. Spare pair of old glasses just in case. Pick up some extra forms as you go through customs, you can fill them in before you travel.

A glance at the list a few days before might remind you to get a haircut, get some USA Small bills from the bank. Wash or replace those tattered shorts.

Also stuff to do at home before I leave like water the plant, take out the garbage, turn the thermostat up or down, clean out the old crap from the fridge.

That sort of thing.

Obsessive? Or just being practical.I have a list saved on my computer also, I can't imagine packing for a trip without it. In addition to items to pack, things to do like hold my mail and call my card companies and advise them of my travel plans, etc.

Haven123
08-15-15, 09:25
I have a list saved on my computer also, I can't imagine packing for a trip without it. In addition to items to pack, things to do like hold my mail and call my card companies and advise them of my travel plans, etc.Jajaja. Ok. I don't! But YMMV! Train your mind my man! Train your inind. It's a terrible thing to waste. As you get older. Use it or lose it governs how the billions of neuronal connections in massively parallel processing help you stay young and act young, and be young, in our current existence.

May be more than you asked for,. So sorry in advance for being out of line.

Haven123
08-15-15, 10:11
Been reading the stuff here for about 18 months now. Sosua is difficult to beat for its choices!

1. Rumba and Classicos and a few other places.

2. Good restaurants (eg Baileys) and USA Sports on TV (unlike in Cuba, Brasil, Thailand, Germany etc.). But a diverse expat community of US, Canadians, Germans, Italians, French etc.

3. Beaches (Sosua, Playa Alicia, Playa Cabarete, Playa Costambar (Puerto Plata) and playas in the all inclusive Playa Dorada resorts and all inclusive Lifefstyle resorts (Playa Cofresi for example) and BB for a more spoon fed option.

4. Everything in Sosua within walking distance (you won't find this most other places except Pattaya) including Great Supermarket in Sosua within WALKING distance of most hotels, with beer full choice of liquor, wine, cigars, prepared foods and just about everything you'd find in a USA Supermarket. Etc for less than in the US, including pharmacies etc. . Not so in Cuba or Thailand or Brazil and the option to enjoy local and US music in a place like Classicos until 2 am.

5. Chicas aplenty. But poor quality if you focus solely on Sosua pros.

6. Put in the effort for at least a month before you arrive on Facebook and other paid and free dating sites and collect at least 50 quality phone numbers of Chicas you are OK with, at least in the photos, and then find the 3-5 you like, are there for you and like being with you 24*7 for at least 2-3 days each.

I have focused solely on Chicas who live outside of Sosua and have had 90 plus percent positive outcomes. But if you are in purely for sport, and quantity vs quality and not interested in the Chicas besides their body (ie like to get to know them and hang with them and be nice to them, bring them stuff, never discuss dineros ahead of time (and avoid those are into dineros negotiation) then you will truly realize what you have in the PP region of the DR that you are unlikely to find elsewhere (and yes David, it is better than Peru, the Philippines or Thailand), given other issues and limiting factors for those desiring of being closer to home and with the ability to be in the local culture and in the USA Culture at the same time. In the same location! Of course, the physical aspects of the Chicas are not the same, so this only applies to those dudes who are wanting to go beyond the purely physical attributes of the Chicas.

These points of view are based on having spent over 100 total days over 5-6 trips to the Puerto Plata area. And, only a sum total of only 3-4 Chica experiences from the Sousa spots. None of which were worthy of note. Only the ones outside of Sosua. ,from Montellanos, Puerto Plata, Imbert, Luperon, Santiago, Higuey etc. Were ones that I liked. And will focus on again on my next trip.

FWIW, compared to say 10 years ago in Brasil, Thailand or the Philippines, there are truly nice non pro and semi pros you can discover in the NE coast of the DR than you will in most other spots in August 2015. My 2 cents. Take it for what it's worth or just read it and take a pass.

Just wanted to provide an additional POV. The only place with some of the same attributes IMO is Pattaya. And Pattaya has the best regular massage places on the planet. But, it's a long ways off and will take more time and effort to navigate. But the nightclub scene and organized Chica scene is bigger by factor of 10 or more. Philippines would come after Thailand in the order of things IMO.

I find the DR truly special. FWIW. And there are really, really special Chicas to be found. But please do not fall for them. It won't work!

But the ultimate beauties IMO are still in Brazil ( outside of Rio, in Sao Paulo, Curitiba, Belo Horizonte, Ceara etc. ) ..and if the Real goes from 3.5 now to over 4 and closer to 5 ( given political instability, political risk for money flows into Brazil and the commodity price crash due to China slowing down) then and only then will I prefer Brazil over the Pto PTA area.....but to be sure this is only one guys POV and I am not claiming or aspiring to be any kind of authority here...just wanting to share my POV and my experiences on a relative basis ( as Einstein may say. .. And yes he married his cousin )!

Haven123
08-15-15, 10:34
Speak for yourself. I do not imagine any other of our gentlemen members have any tattered shorts. If still wearable we pass them on to our house-servants.With all due respect, I detest your use of the notion and the mind set of ' servants'. Completely unacceptable in my view!

WTF? It is 2015.

Haven123
08-15-15, 10:38
Your skin color may not, but you better start toning down the way you dress, and accessorize.Huh? Have you seen the multitude of Bros at Classicos with the white towels hanging on their shoulders! I bet the people in the DR (there are a few regular folks who come there) find that outrageous and uncool.

Haven123
08-15-15, 10:42
Exactly. Any advice offered is only notionally addressed to the OP, but is just in the nature of an open discussion that may be enjoyed by many lurkers who never contribute a word.Quite True. Frannie!

Haven123
08-15-15, 10:45
I live alone, and am a frequent traveler, and I always used to forget something if I was in a hurry packing.

I now have a computer list that contains everything I might need on my trip, and nothing more.

Things like a charger, a pen for all the forms, even a toothpick can be handy on a plane. Spare pair of old glasses just in case. Pick up some extra forms as you go through customs, you can fill them in before you travel.

A glance at the list a few days before might remind you to get a haircut, get some USA Small bills from the bank. Wash or replace those tattered shorts.

Also stuff to do at home before I leave like water the plant, take out the garbage, turn the thermostat up or down, clean out the old crap from the fridge.

That sort of thing.

Obsessive? Or just being practical.Nah. Neither. I was going to say Parkinsons (pun intended) , but Mr Alzheimer's is more like it! Whack your brain into submission and it will! . LOL.

Haven123
08-15-15, 10:55
I had one who stopped during foreplay and, out of the blue, asked me whether I had asked Jesus to save me. I assured her I had and we got straight back to it. She was not a hooker either but accepted 800 pesos "for the church funds".

Women, Dominicans and Jesus Freaks are three known categories of crazy, but when combined they make mediocre lays.Sorry Charles. But I would definitely add English women to the list! I assume that is one reason why you left! If not, please hurry back! LOL. I do love your contributions here BTW. Seriously. Very helpful!

And yes, I just awoke from my hibernation. Hence the multitude of posts. Post my recent awakening! Anyway, it's all Frannie's fault!

Manny51
08-15-15, 15:37
Been reading the stuff here for about 18 months now. Sosua is difficult to beat for its choices!


FWIW, compared to say 10 years ago in Brasil, Thailand or the Philippines, there are truly nice non pro and semi pros you can discover in the NE coast of the DR than you will in most other spots in August 2015. My 2 cents. Take it for what it's worth or just read it and take a pass.

But the ultimate beauties IMO are still in Brazil ( outside of Rio, in Sao Paulo, Curitiba, Belo Horizonte, Ceara etc. ) ..and if the Real goes from 3.5 now to over 4 and closer to 5 ( given political instability, political risk for money flows into Brazil and the commodity price crash due to China slowing down) then and only then will I prefer Brazil over the Pto PTA area.....but to be sure this is only one guys POV and I am not claiming or aspiring to be any kind of authority here...just wanting to share my POV and my experiences on a relative basis ( as Einstein may say. .. And yes he married his cousin )!I don't understand. What do you mean by "compare to 10 years ago. ".

Charles Pooter
08-15-15, 17:20
3. Beaches ... playas in the all inclusive Lifefstyle resorts (Playa Cofresi for example)Just in case this might mislead newbies, Playa Cofresi is a very nice beach open to the public. Near to Blackbeards and much better than Costambar beach. Not a place to pick up hookers but a place to take your girl swimming.

Manizales911
08-15-15, 18:08
Jajaja. Ok. I don't! But YMMV! Train your mind my man! Train your inind. It's a terrible thing to waste. As you get older. Use it or lose it governs how the billions of neuronal connections in massively parallel processing help you stay young and act young, and be young, in our current existence.

May be more than you asked for,. So sorry in advance for being out of line.My mind is fine thank you, I just prefer to not leave things behind that will be expensive or unable to get in the DR and now that I am going for six months at a clip, the list becomes much more important to me, to each their own.

JjBee62
08-15-15, 18:31
My mind is fine thank you, I just prefer to not leave things behind that will be expensive or unable to get in the DR and now that I am going for six months at a clip, the list becomes much more important to me, to each their own.Just to be clear, this is coming from the person who, 6 months ago, claimed info from his sources, that Sosua was going to be shut down. Mongers would be arrested and dragged from Rumbas by the police, all because of a conspiracy by the real estate developers.

The state of your mind should be the least of his concerns.

Questner
08-16-15, 04:01
"A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open. ".

― Frank Zappa.

Pip Jaeger
08-16-15, 10:34
"A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open. ".

― Frank Zappa.My mind's open; like a sieve. LOL. That's why I'm with the "make a list" group.

GrownMan1
08-17-15, 03:51
I've been here in Sosua for 3 days. Everything is rolling well. We were supposed to leave today, drove 28 miles outside ofdrove 28 miles outside of Sosua, but turned around and decided to stay . Classic gets the highest Choice Award.There was some good talent at the beach. I liked sitting on the stairs outside of Rumba. Just hardcore puta watching. It has its pleasures even if I don't partake. Friday and Saturday night was wall to wall. The chicas were in full strength. Its slow season but they're hungr but they're hungry. I think the hookers Union is active again. The 1 hour 2 hours or all night price thing, is trying to stand firm. 2000,3000, or 4000. Some say 2000 for 1 or 2 hours.

Ran into my man Big Red. He was telling me that the Embassy has just opened up in Cuba. I would love to see where Sosua will be five years from now.

OldKool
08-17-15, 06:07
I am not sure how you have a bad time in Sosua. I hate leaving. It is like a sex amusement park with 100 s of different rides.


I've been here in Sosua for 3 days. Everything is rolling well. We were supposed to leave today, drove 28 miles outside ofdrove 28 miles outside of Sosua, but turned around and decided to stay . Classic gets the highest Choice Award.There was some good talent at the beach. I liked sitting on the stairs outside of Rumba. Just hardcore puta watching. It has its pleasures even if I don't partake. Friday and Saturday night was wall to wall. The chicas were in full strength. Its slow season but they're hungr but they're hungry. I think the hookers Union is active again. The 1 hour 2 hours or all night price thing, is trying to stand firm. 2000,3000, or 4000. Some say 2000 for 1 or 2 hours.

Ran into my man Big Red. He was telling me that the Embassy has just opened up in Cuba. I would love to see where Sosua will be five years from now.

Oakie
08-17-15, 15:15
Nah. Neither. I was going to say Parkinsons (pun intended) , but Mr Alzheimer's is more like it! Whack your brain into submission and it will! . LOL.I don't know about Alzheimers, but I am at least intelligent enough to find a hooker in a mongers Disneyland, without going through all your nonsense!

QUOTE "Put in the effort for at least a month before you arrive on Facebook and other paid and free dating sites and collect at least 50 quality phone numbers of Chicas you are OK with, at least in the photos, and then find the 3-5 you like, are there for you and like being with you 24*7 for at least 2-3 days each". QUOTE.

Tempoecorto
08-18-15, 15:46
I don't know about Alzheimers, but I am at least intelligent enough to find a hooker in a mongers Disneyland, without going through all your nonsense!
I believe Haven123 was suggesting an alternative mode which pays a dividend by its quality. I cannot speak of others but I definitely am used to that, reason why Sosua has lost its sheen for me, in terms of women (food wise, it is the top!

Presumably your view is focused upon Sosua and I agree, it ain't no rocket science there, speaking of the famed "hunt".

Bart1
08-18-15, 20:18
I am not sure how you have a bad time in Sosua. I hate leaving. It is like a sex amusement park with 100 s of different rides.Maybe you should say US Embassy, this is an international site, not everyone who reads this lives in Obamalandia, some might even think you were talking about a new chica club called the Embassy and go looking for it.

OldKool
08-18-15, 23:04
You must be talking in code. I have no clue as to what you are talking about. I like and respect my current president. He has had to deal with red necks and racist. You may be a member of that club who knows. I guy going to Cube are happy with his policy.


Maybe you should say US Embassy, this is an international site, not everyone who reads this lives in Obamalandia, some might even think you were talking about a new chica club called the Embassy and go looking for it.

Ghana2017
08-18-15, 23:53
Are the girls still allowed to hang out at new gardens hotel? Or is there a new spot.

Pip Jaeger
08-19-15, 00:31
You must be talking in code. I have no clue as to what you are talking about. Maybe you missed it, he added an edit:


Last edited by Bart1; Today at 15:20. Reason: Should be on Havana siteShould have just deleted it and spared us his political views as not only does his post, but his comment have nothing to do with Sosua.

Mngr18
08-19-15, 00:36
Hi all,

I don't post much. Arrived in Sosua today.

I think it may be low season or something because up until now it's been pretty quiet. I remember picking up girls during the day here in the past and there really aren't many at all. Until 1/2 hour ago Rumbas was completely empty. Perhaps I'm going to the wrong place? At the beach there weren't really any chicas either. I assume it'll be full at Classicos tonight but just frustrating during the day.

OldKool
08-19-15, 03:37
It is low season THE middle of the week. Even in high season the middle of the week can be slow. You can compensate by getting numbers of attractive girls you meet in the evening and make day time dates. You can have great time in low season if do little extra planning.


Hi all,

I don't post much. Arrived in Sosua today.

I think it may be low season or something because up until now it's been pretty quiet. I remember picking up girls during the day here in the past and there really aren't many at all. Until 1/2 hour ago Rumbas was completely empty. Perhaps I'm going to the wrong place? At the beach there weren't really any chicas either. I assume it'll be full at Classicos tonight but just frustrating during the day.

Parkinsons
08-19-15, 03:42
Hi all,

I don't post much. Arrived in Sosua today.

I think it may be low season or something because up until now it's been pretty quiet. I remember picking up girls during the day here in the past and there really aren't many at all. Until 1/2 hour ago Rumbas was completely empty. Perhaps I'm going to the wrong place? At the beach there weren't really any chicas either. I assume it'll be full at Classicos tonight but just frustrating during the day.Well Tuesdays are traditionally slow days, plus fall semester just started in the DR. Even the worst single moms would be back home to see their kids off for the new school year. Now, if you were there last week, you may have seen tons of them trying to earn that new uniform and notebook money. Keep the reports coming.

Oakie
08-19-15, 13:43
Well Tuesdays are traditionally slow days, plus fall semester just started in the DR. Even the worst single moms would be back home to see their kids off for the new school year. Now, if you were there last week, you may have seen tons of them trying to earn that new uniform and notebook money. Keep the reports coming.Just shows how time spent getting to know the local culture pays off.

Predictability, no disappointments, and few surprises.

Oakie
08-20-15, 03:17
Hi all,

I don't post much. Arrived in Sosua today.

I think it may be low season or something because up until now it's been pretty quiet. I remember picking up girls during the day here in the past and there really aren't many at all. Until 1/2 hour ago Rumbas was completely empty. Perhaps I'm going to the wrong place? At the beach there weren't really any chicas either. I assume it'll be full at Classicos tonight but just frustrating during the day.Wish I was there.

I'm betting you'll be having a great time before the week is out.

Let us know!

TIA.

GrownMan1
08-20-15, 04:19
Just shows how time spent getting to know the local culture pays off.

Predictability, no disappointments, and few surprises.Very well stated!

OldKool
08-20-15, 05:14
It can be cheaper to have local non pros if you no how to manage but this comes with complications. Most guys are here to sport fuck.


Very well stated!

Oakie
08-20-15, 11:45
It can be cheaper to have local non pros if you no how to manage but this comes with complications. Most guys are here to sport fuck.Getting to know the local culture will help you anywhere you travel, regardless of your mongering choices.

Maybe you missed Parkinson's insightful post below!

Maradona1234
08-20-15, 15:48
Hi guys,

So I was ready this thread and I wanted to do my homework before getting to Sosua. But can you guys give me the web sites where to look for non pro? Also how do you search for chicas in facebook? (Chicas Sosua in the search bar?

I'm doing this since it seems like the slow season is already happening and pros in Sousa are quite 'hard' to meet lets say a Wednesday evening (am I wrong?

Also if you meet a non pro from the sites, is it easy to get them to your room and fuck? Or you have to do a 2-3 days of diners and going out etc? What kind of BS worked for you guys?

I speak fluent Spanish by the way.

Thanks in advance.

Frannie
08-20-15, 22:27
Hi guys,

So I was ready this thread and I wanted to do my homework before getting to Sosua. But can you guys give me the web sites where to look for non pro? Also how do you search for chicas in facebook? (Chicas Sosua in the search bar?

I'm doing this since it seems like the slow season is already happening and pros in Sousa are quite 'hard' to meet lets say a Wednesday evening (am I wrong?

Also if you meet a non pro from the sites, is it easy to get them to your room and fuck? Or you have to do a 2-3 days of diners and going out etc? What kind of BS worked for you guys?

I speak fluent Spanish by the way.

Thanks in advance.There are several online sites like Badoo where you can meet people. On Facebook I believe you can search for people by locality and other demographics and then you have to send a friend request to be able to message them.

If they are truly nonpros the chances of sex on the first meeting will rather depend on how taken with you they are. Many chicas who are online and receptive to approaches from foreign visitors are not really nonprod, or may be semipros. These women will fuck on the first encounter. The best approach is to treat all as nonpro and do the usual routine of telling them how beautiful and sexy they are and gauge their response to calibrate your next step. If they are unwilling to flirt or talk about sexy topics, they are probably not up for easy sex. You can test this a bit online before you meet in person.

JjBee62
08-20-15, 23:39
Hi guys,

So I was ready this thread and I wanted to do my homework before getting to Sosua. But can you guys give me the web sites where to look for non pro? Also how do you search for chicas in facebook? (Chicas Sosua in the search bar?

I'm doing this since it seems like the slow season is already happening and pros in Sousa are quite 'hard' to meet lets say a Wednesday evening (am I wrong?

Also if you meet a non pro from the sites, is it easy to get them to your room and fuck? Or you have to do a 2-3 days of diners and going out etc? What kind of BS worked for you guys?

I speak fluent Spanish by the way.

Thanks in advance.There should be no problem finding porosity in Sosua. Monday and Tuesday may be a little slow, but there's still plenty to go around.

Finding nonpros online isn't hard, but it's not the easiest, especially if you don't speak Spanish, and if you're staying in Sosua. Many of the true nonpros won't want to come to Sosua, because they don't want you to think they are a pro.

Probably the best sites for non, semi and full pros is Dominican Cupid. Create an account, upload a picture, pay for a 1 month subscription and install Whatsapp on your phone. They will come to you.

If you're just going the nonpro route, you're better off staying in Puerto Plata. If you just want to get laid go to Sosua.

OldKool
08-21-15, 00:23
Bad night in Sosua is better then anywhere in the states. Low season means instead of 300 girls you only have 150. Way more pussy then you can handle. No need to bring sand to the beach. If you are out to have a good time having sex with young attractive women the DR is the right place. You need to decide if you are sport fucking or wifing up. Both are great options. Sosua is perfect for sport fucking and the girls IMHO are no where near as hardcore is putas in the states. It is not a good idea to bring a non pro to Sosua. There so many hot willing girls you would be distracted and the girls insulted. Sosau is known as working girl haven.

A non-pro is not a good partner for mongering for most of us. They want marriage and commitment not on our menus. Most girls on cupid who are willing to hook up for short time fun under the guise of dating. This is a great way to get GFE. I have had some cupid girls on my list for 4 years. This is not rocket science do not over think it.

If this is your first time just do Sosua it is point and click with a lot of options. Play with cupid and get some numbers and if you get a hot one reel her in. However some basic Spanish is needed if you are dealing with the semi pros on your own. You are going to have a great time do not worry.


Hi guys,

So I was ready this thread and I wanted to do my homework before getting to Sosua. But can you guys give me the web sites where to look for non pro? Also how do you search for chicas in facebook? (Chicas Sosua in the search bar?

I'm doing this since it seems like the slow season is already happening and pros in Sousa are quite 'hard' to meet lets say a Wednesday evening (am I wrong?

Also if you meet a non pro from the sites, is it easy to get them to your room and fuck? Or you have to do a 2-3 days of diners and going out etc? What kind of BS worked for you guys?

I speak fluent Spanish by the way.

Thanks in advance.

D Cups
08-21-15, 00:23
See'Mon., man. Join Dominican Cupid for outside Sosua otherwise just read the forum. You will have no problem.


Hi guys,

So I was ready this thread and I wanted to do my homework before getting to Sosua. But can you guys give me the web sites where to look for non pro? Also how do you search for chicas in facebook? (Chicas Sosua in the search bar?

I'm doing this since it seems like the slow season is already happening and pros in Sousa are quite 'hard' to meet lets say a Wednesday evening (am I wrong?

Also if you meet a non pro from the sites, is it easy to get them to your room and fuck? Or you have to do a 2-3 days of diners and going out etc? What kind of BS worked for you guys?

I speak fluent Spanish by the way.

Thanks in advance..

Frannie
08-21-15, 01:03
There should be no problem finding porosity in Sosua. Monday and Tuesday may be a little slow, but there's still plenty to go around.

Finding nonpros online isn't hard, but it's not the easiest, especially if you don't speak Spanish, and if you're staying in Sosua. Many of the true nonpros won't want to come to Sosua, because they don't want you to think they are a pro.

Probably the best sites for non, semi and full pros is Dominican Cupid. Create an account, upload a picture, pay for a 1 month subscription and install Whatsapp on your phone. They will come to you.

If you're just going the nonpro route, you're better off staying in Puerto Plata. If you just want to get laid go to Sosua.The OP says he is fluent in Spanish. You don't think that calls for an adjustment to standard advice? If he is fluent in Spanish, then he is probably very familiar with Hispanic culture in general.

Frannie
08-21-15, 01:44
There should be no problem finding porosity in Sosua. Monday and Tuesday may be a little slow, but there's still plenty to go around.

Finding nonpros online isn't hard, but it's not the easiest, especially if you don't speak Spanish, and if you're staying in Sosua. Many of the true nonpros won't want to come to Sosua, because they don't want you to think they are a pro.

Probably the best sites for non, semi and full pros is Dominican Cupid. Create an account, upload a picture, pay for a 1 month subscription and install Whatsapp on your phone. They will come to you.

If you're just going the nonpro route, you're better off staying in Puerto Plata. If you just want to get laid go to Sosua.After the Ashley Madison fiasco, does anyone really want to give their credit card info to an online sex site, or anything similar?

GrownMan1
08-21-15, 01:54
Getting to know the local culture will help you anywhere you travel, regardless of your mongering choices.

Maybe you missed Parkinson's insightful post below!Yeah don't see any minuses in Park post or the statement Oakie made.

JjBee62
08-21-15, 03:04
The OP says he is fluent in Spanish. You don't think that calls for an adjustment to standard advice? If he is fluent in Spanish, then he is probably very familiar with Hispanic culture in general.I missed the fluent in Spanish part. That does change some, but it doesn't necessarily mean he is well versed in the culture.

Oakie
08-21-15, 03:19
Bad night in Sosua is better then anywhere in the states. Low season means instead of 300 girls you only have 150. Way more pussy then you can handle. No need to bring sand to the beach. If you are out to have a good time having sex with young attractive women the DR is the right place. You need to decide if you are sport fucking or wifing up. Both are great options. Sosua is perfect for sport fucking and the girls IMHO are no where near as hardcore is putas in the states. It is not a good idea to bring a non pro to Sosua. There so many hot willing girls you would be distracted and the girls insulted. Sosau is known as working girl haven.

A non-pro is not a good partner for mongering for most of us. They want marriage and commitment not on our menus. Most girls on cupid who are willing to hook up for short time fun under the guise of dating. This is a great way to get GFE. I have had some cupid girls on my list for 4 years. This is not rocket science do not over think it.

If this is your first time just do Sosua it is point and click with a lot of options. Play with cupid and get some numbers and if you get a hot one reel her in. However some basic Spanish is needed if you are dealing with the semi pros on your own. You are going to have a great time do not worry.There's no easy road to a non pro. Like anywhere else, time and money are needed. If you have all that figured out, might as well stay home.

I doubt Sosua is a good destination for no pros, Lol

That's why guys come to Sosua. To get away from the expensive, time consuming and disappointing bullshit!

A non pro in DR will probably give you as much hassle (eventually) as a chick in the the USA. And probably more!

That's why I pay (gift) my regular of 7 years. It's a business transaction, and I set the rules. But I'm (really) a nice guy and she enjoys it!

I can go down tomorrow and she'll give me a week 24/7.

Those who obsess about what she might do when I'm not there, is no mi problema. I have first dibs on her always.

Let some submissive boyfriend worry about that!, LOL.

Charles Pooter
08-21-15, 13:08
If you're just going the nonpro route, you're better off staying in Puerto Plata. If you just want to get laid go to Sosua.Agreed. Pto Pta also better for semi-pros, but you will need some Spanish (or French for Haitians).

ForceSteeler
08-21-15, 17:15
There's no easy road to a non pro. Like anywhere else, time and money are needed. If you have all that figured out, might as well stay home.

I doubt Sosua is a good destination for no pros, Lol

That's why guys come to Sosua. To get away from the expensive, time consuming and disappointing bullshit!

A non pro in DR will probably give you as much hassle (eventually) as a chick in the the USA. And probably more!

That's why I pay (gift) my regular of 7 years. It's a business transaction, and I set the rules. But I'm (really) a nice guy and she enjoys it!

I can go down tomorrow and she'll give me a week 24/7.

Those who obsess about what she might do when I'm not there, is no mi problema. I have first dibs on her always.

Let some submissive boyfriend worry about that!, LOL.I think its pointless to chase Non-Pro's especially if your only going to be in sosua for a week or 2. Sosua is for Sport Fuckers and Guys that want to get some new pussy and get away from the Wife for while. If your looking for Non-Pros, There is no need to leave the United States. Its 2015 and You have women that will suck and fuck for some Jordans and a happy meal, Every Chick these days is looking for a sugar daddy so they can buy the latest material bullshit to Flex on Facebook and Instagram.

Oakie
08-21-15, 18:19
Non-pros are for non-mongers.

Semi-pros are for semi-mongers.

Pros are for mongers.

:)

Charles Pooter
08-21-15, 19:15
Sorry folks, duplicated post while frigging around unsuccessfully trying to get the automatic spellchecker to accept an accent. "Kreyol" should have a grave on the "o".

Charles Pooter
08-21-15, 19:15
... you will need some ... French for Haitians.


Sa se yon bon bagay yo konnen. That is good to know.Well, of course, Kreyol would be far better, but not many mongers know even a few words of it.


French did not help me because Haitians speak creole, so that didn't get me anywhere. After eight years of talking to Haitians, I am still not clear about something. To gringos, they often refer to Kreyol as "French". For example, if I essay a simple greeting in Kreyol, their little faces light up (well, insofar as black faces can), and they say "Oh, you speak French!" I used to think they were politely calling it "French" because they would not expect foreigners to know, or even know about, Kreyol. But I am now thinking that many of them, especially those who learned little or no French at school, do actually think they are speaking some sort of French. As Durandpaul found out, that can sometimes lead to disappointment.

Until recently my friends and I have been running a school for Haitian children, and even our teachers, who were educated (and the Director a graduate) often used "French" for Kreyol when they meant "not Spanish". For example "We will label the exhibits in both Spanish and French" (when they actually meant Kreyol).

Charles Pooter
08-21-15, 19:28
Non-pros are for non-mongers.

Semi-pros are for semi-mongers.

Pros are for mongers.

Amusing and almost true, but not quite.

Nowhere near as succinct and witty, but nearer the truth:

Pros are for mongers.

Semi-pros are for semi-mongers and for many more experienced and discerning mongers.

Non-pros are for non-mongers, or mongers who are taking a break from mongering, or guys with money to burn, or bullshitting fantasists.

Have you ever thought about the word "monger", short for "wh_oremonger"? It is an oddity, because with all the other words formed from "monger", like "fishmonger", "ironmonger", "warmonger", "scaremonger", etc., the monger is the person vending or purveying the object or service. Only in "wh_oremonger" does it refer to the purchaser and not to the puta or pimp.

For a while, it also referred to the vendor (as in some Restoration plays), but the current usage was the original (and oddball) one.

Haven123
08-22-15, 10:42
Amusing and almost true, but not quite.

Nowhere near as succinct and witty, but nearer the truth:

Pros are for mongers.

Semi-pros are for semi-mongers and for many more experienced and discerning mongers.

Non-pros are for non-mongers, or mongers who are taking a break from mongering, or guys with money to burn, or bullshitting fantasists.

Have you ever thought about the word "monger", short for "wh_oremonger"? It is an oddity, because with all the other words formed from "monger", like "fishmonger", "ironmonger", "warmonger", "scaremonger", etc., the monger is the person vending or purveying the object or service. Only in "wh_oremonger" does it refer to the purchaser and not to the puta or pimp.

For a while, it also referred to the vendor (as in some Restoration plays), but the current usage was the original (and oddball) one.Very clever Charles! And true! However, from my point of view (meaning it's all relative as Einstein may say- from the point of view of the observer) you are missing the essence of life! Getting to know another human being. In another country. In another culture. I love (but not ' in love ') the women and truly enjoy learning about them, their lives and see them have a good time drinking, eating, and to use a ancient expression ' and be merry'. No pun intended, Charles!

Haven123
08-22-15, 11:06
There's no easy road to a non pro. Like anywhere else, time and money are needed. If you have all that figured out, might as well stay home.

I doubt Sosua is a good destination for no pros, Lol

That's why guys come to Sosua. To get away from the expensive, time consuming and disappointing bullshit!

A non pro in DR will probably give you as much hassle (eventually) as a chick in the the USA. And probably more!

That's why I pay (gift) my regular of 7 years. It's a business transaction, and I set the rules. But I'm (really) a nice guy and she enjoys it!

I can go down tomorrow and she'll give me a week 24/7.

Those who obsess about what she might do when I'm not there, is no mi problema. I have first dibs on her always.

Let some submissive boyfriend worry about that!, LOL.As they say your mileage may vary!! YMMV, right!? I have used both Sosua and Costambar as a base! I have never discussed dineros with a chica for several months of visits (combined total with 3-5 weeks at a time) . They don't have my USA phone number and I make it clear I do not send dineros. But when I am there they do better with me than the pros for sure! I bring them stuff (phones, clothes, brand name original perfumes) take them to resorts like Lifestyle, Playa Dorada (not all of them) and do slip money into their purse and ask Them to go shopping etc.

I do however put in a lot of time..a lot...before each visit ...dating sites and Facebook ...to communiate and get a ' read' as best I can about a chica....and of course when I arrive 60 PC are not available. So, when I arrive I have at least 30 -40 good new leads. But, for say 3 weeks I only need 6-7 Chicas, new and ones from before. So, I approach things quite a bit differently. Yeah, some want more ...and when I sense it is strong ...I disconnect and move on. I stay quite objective on the one hand and quite engaged with the person at other hand, both at the same time.

But I don't select based on the body or beauty on the 1-10 scale. I prefer the 6-7 . And probably 25 per cent of them are just ok meaning it was Ok but not better than ok. And 1 out 10 I tell myself I got that one wrong. But about 2/3 Rd of time I am really glad I met that person. It all depends on what you are looking for. I enjoy their company and usually a minimum of 3 days at a time And maybe 2-3 out of 10 I see the next time.

But I am by no means average in terms of my mimdset. 3 days min? It cannot be just about sex. : sex is fleeting. , and by itself a chore. , not worth much to me. Hanging on the beach with a nice chica or in a nightclub or a resort and having some drinks and good food together ...lasts much much longer. So from my POV sex is overrated , a necessary but not a sufficient condition as they say in scientific circles ( and no I am not a scientist or a technology guy but a global business manager for large corporates ( as in was, LOL ! ) ..,,that's why I say it's all relative and that YMMV.

The point of this post is simply to say it is not all the same strokes for all folks. So, all please do whatevef you like best, the approach that works for you...but all I am saying is that there are many ways to approach this...and perhaps differently at different points in your life stages.

The question then I am sure Charles would ask is: why do you think they want to be with you. I dunno but maybe a) they have nothing better to do and are intrigued and want to have a good time for a few days and not have to spend a single dinero ? B ) their Dominican boyfriend let them down ? C ) they think something may really come out of it , d ) they were referred to me by someone I know locally and it has worked out for me before , or some combination of the above ? But I do make sure that they all do better with me than a non pro... So yeah, who knows ?

Oakie
08-22-15, 13:11
As they say your mileage may vary!! YMMV, right!? Well, in my own case the answer is no. I get pretty much what I expect from my regular and somehow we keep it fresh and fun.

Here in my case the relationship exists on two levels:

1: is the employer / employee financial relationship. We spend virtually no time discussing money (it's a given).

2: is the actual working relationship, which has grown mutually beneficial over time. We are genuinely happy to see each other as often as we can.

You ask why they might want to be with you? There are many reasons, and if you are the cynical sort, you can leave out "genuine affection", or even genuine "like", certainly not "love", but as a rule of thumb, there are good employers, and bad employers. Good employers have happier employees.

If your interactions are mostly mutually satisfactory, you would be considered a good employer. What makes a good employer? That's another subject entirely!

Those who are more frequently ripped off are usually bad employers.

(Opinion based on 50 years in business).

It's just life.

Sammon
08-22-15, 16:05
Amusing and almost true, but not quite.

Nowhere near as succinct and witty, but nearer the truth:

Pros are for mongers.

Semi-pros are for semi-mongers and for many more experienced and discerning mongers.

Non-pros are for non-mongers, or mongers who are taking a break from mongering, or guys with money to burn, or bullshitting fantasists.

Have you ever thought about the word "monger", short for "wh_oremonger"? It is an oddity, because with all the other words formed from "monger", like "fishmonger", "ironmonger", "warmonger", "scaremonger", etc., the monger is the person vending or purveying the object or service. Only in "wh_oremonger" does it refer to the purchaser and not to the puta or pimp.

For a while, it also referred to the vendor (as in some Restoration plays), but the current usage was the original (and oddball) one.Who is laying down all these rules-LOL!

My motto is find, fuck, forget till next time!

I have no time or patience to find out if the girl is pros, semi-pros or non pros. All girls fuck and love to fuck who they like in most cases.

In DR as well as in many countries I have found girls on the street, at the malls, beaches etc. Some may come across as shy, not on first date, I do not know you well and all other sorts of bull shit stories. If I give them my phone number sure enough to get a message offering services or GFE fuck. Giving money is just natural to help them out. Nobody has kicked me in the balls for giving them money yet in other countries. In many cases I have gotten a nice GF to call when I visit again. In my case being a monger is all about finding new ones to fuck.

Oakie
08-23-15, 02:09
Have you ever thought about the word "monger", short for "wh_oremonger"? It is an oddity, because with all the other words formed from "monger", like "fishmonger", "ironmonger", "warmonger", "scaremonger", etc., the monger is the person vending or purveying the object or service. Only in "wh_oremonger" does it refer to the purchaser and not to the puta or pimp.....Interesting take!

I prefer the term purveyor, it has the ring of "perv. ", or "perp. " :)

D Cups
08-23-15, 14:32
Hey Oak, I like it. Purveyor of Fine Pussy and Chi Chis Muy Grande.


Interesting take!

I prefer the term purveyor, it has the ring of "perv. ", or "perp. " :).

Charles Pooter
08-23-15, 15:54
Who is laying down all these rulesIf you are referring my post, the categories were descriptive, not prescriptive, so they are not rules.

TomJackin
08-23-15, 20:47
Pros, semi pros, hookers; just go to Sosua, fuck, and have fun!

Please get back to the trip reports.

Oakie
08-23-15, 20:55
Pros, semi pros, hookers; just go to Sosua, fuck, and have fun!

Please get back to the trip reports.Relax!

Just trying to keep the group alive between trip reports.

Summer is always slow.

Maradona1234
08-24-15, 18:32
Thanks everyone! I have a better picture now.

I just mentioned for non pro ir semi pros just because I read before that I would not find girls during the week days. But it seems like that is always chicas in Sosua for 2000 -3000 pesos!

And yes I'm from south america and I know the Latin culture.

Since I'm not interested in WIFI up or even having a girl in DR (just want to sport fuck for a week) I should have no problem with Sosua in late September.

Thanks all, coming up reports soon!


Bad night in Sosua is better then anywhere in the states. Low season means instead of 300 girls you only have 150. Way more pussy then you can handle. No need to bring sand to the beach. If you are out to have a good time having sex with young attractive women the DR is the right place. You need to decide if you are sport fucking or wifing up. Both are great options. Sosua is perfect for sport fucking and the girls IMHO are no where near as hardcore is putas in the states. It is not a good idea to bring a non pro to Sosua. There so many hot willing girls you would be distracted and the girls insulted. Sosau is known as working girl haven.

A non-pro is not a good partner for mongering for most of us. They want marriage and commitment not on our menus. Most girls on cupid who are willing to hook up for short time fun under the guise of dating. This is a great way to get GFE. I have had some cupid girls on my list for 4 years. This is not rocket science do not over think it..

Surfer500
08-24-15, 20:17
Bad night in Sosua is better then anywhere in the states. Low season means instead of 300 girls you only have 150. Way more pussy then you can handle. No need to bring sand to the beach. If you are out to have a good time having sex with young attractive women the DR is the right place. You need to decide if you are sport fucking or wifing up. Both are great options. Sosua is perfect for sport fucking and the girls IMHO are no where near as hardcore is putas in the states. It is not a good idea to bring a non pro to Sosua. There so many hot willing girls you would be distracted and the girls insulted. Sosau is known as working girl haven.

A non-pro is not a good partner for mongering for most of us. They want marriage and commitment not on our menus. Most girls on cupid who are willing to hook up for short time fun under the guise of dating. This is a great way to get GFE. I have had some cupid girls on my list for 4 years. This is not rocket science do not over think it.

If this is your first time just do Sosua it is point and click with a lot of options. Play with cupid and get some numbers and if you get a hot one reel her in. However some basic Spanish is needed if you are dealing with the semi pros on your own. You are going to have a great time do not worry.I agree with you about cupid and I find myself a lot of times chatting or instant messaging with the DC girls when their online, however you really need a little more than basic Spanish to reel in the ones you want to meet.

Haven123
08-25-15, 06:37
I agree with you about cupid and I find myself a lot of times chatting or instant messaging with the DC girls when their online, however you really need a little more than basic Spanish to reel in the ones you want to meet.Fwiw, my 2 cents having successfully had GFE's thru these sites over a number of visits now:

1. It takes a lot of time and effort over at a span of at least 30 days before you arrive because you will need to.

Really get a sense via messaging them and also checking their Facebook sites and pics. And once you arrive many will not be easily reachable. Many will say there are coming and never show up. Most will be 1-2 hours late. Some will have last minute issues with their kid babysitter, rain enroute any number of things!

2. So this requires a lot of patience and perseverance. And so you have to have many contacts and approach it as a statistical success effort.

3. The real non pros will wear head covering because they don't want to be seen walking in Sosua. Many will want to just stay in the room and the hotel for the same reason and decline to go out with you.

4. However, if all this is worth it for you (and for me it is but I expect it will not be the case for 95 percent of the guys who come to Sosua) then there are some really wonderful girls to meet that I would not be able to find in my circles back home.

I have only met up with 2-3 sosua chicas over 4-5 months of total accumulated days in Sosua and Puerto Plata. And that was on my first 2 visits. Since then it has been 100 percent non pros and semi pros from Puerto Plata. Santiago and Higuey who came to spend a few days. And ones not from Puerto Plata took major major coordination and was frustrating as heck. But they were the types you just won't see in the Puerto Plata area in terms of their personality.

I just want to be clear that the GFE non Sosua chica approach is a very difficult thing to do because it requires learning and experience. But that is the only thing I opt for and will not go with the pros. But I love hanging with them and being with them I n the Classicos, Club X and After 1 ambiance. The last 2 Club names are again just for hanging out.

I have had less than 10 PC of non Sosua, non pros who have agreed to go to Classicos with me and they were not comfortable until they'd had a few drinks!

TomJackin
08-25-15, 07:14
Relax!
No, boots on the ground reporting is way more useful than any of the other stuff that comes from the "Sosua Reports" section.

May I suggest using the PM option.

BTW, wake the fuck up, all women are PROS!

My two e-wives almost took everything I had.

Are there any new reports out there? How is Wilfried doing? Who fucked Mr. Gogo's girl lately? Besides me!:)

Mr Gogo
08-25-15, 07:23
No, boots on the ground reporting is way more useful than any of the other stuff that comes from the "Sosua Reports" section.

May I suggest using the PM option.

BTW, wake the fuck up, all women are PROS!

My two e-wives almost took everything I had.

Are there any new reports out there? How is Wilfried doing? Who fucked Mr. Gogo's girl lately? Besides me!:)I usually don't share, but when it's Tomjackin the rule is " what's your is his". BTW Wilfred was still on crutches when I saw him in June.

Haven123
08-25-15, 08:12
BTW, wake the fuck up, all women are PROS!

My two e-wives almost took everything I had.

Are there any new reports out there? How is Wilfried doing? Who fucked Mr. Gogo's girl lately? Besides me!:)Ok, then by that train of logic all men are pros too! Thus everyone in the human species is a pro! What's the difference?!

The secret to being happy IMO (FWIW) is to be happy on the inside and love life and cherish your life. Internal unhappiness has no cure. I have learned this the hard way. A simple life and internal happiness makes every day, every evening, and every meal or night way better. ,because you will wake unhappy in the morning , if you are not!

Wilfried is doing as best he can and is scheduled for surgery in a couple of weeks.

Oakie
08-25-15, 14:17
Fwiw, my 2 cents having successfully had GFE's thru these sites over a number of visits now:

1. It takes a lot of time and effort over at a span of at least 30 days before you arrive because you will need to.

Really get a sense via messaging them and also checking their Facebook sites and pics. And once you arrive many will not be easily reachable. Many will say there are coming and never show up. Most will be 1-2 hours late. Some will have last minute issues with their kid babysitter, rain enroute any number of things!

2. So this requires a lot of patience and perseverance. And so you have to have many contacts and approach it as a statistical success effort.

3. The real non pros will wear head covering because they don't want to be seen walking in Sosua. Many will want to just stay in the room and the hotel for the same reason and decline to go out with you.

4. However, if all this is worth it for you (and for me it is but I expect it will not be the case for 95 percent of the guys who come to Sosua) then there are some really wonderful girls to meet that I would not be able to find in my circles back home.

I have only met up with 2-3 sosua chicas over 4-5 months of total accumulated days in Sosua and Puerto Plata. And that was on my first 2 visits. Since then it has been 100 percent non pros and semi pros from Puerto Plata. Santiago and Higuey who came to spend a few days. And ones not from Puerto Plata took major major coordination and was frustrating as heck. But they were the types you just won't see in the Puerto Plata area in terms of their personality.

I just want to be clear that the GFE non Sosua chica approach is a very difficult thing to do because it requires learning and experience. But that is the only thing I opt for and will not go with the pros. But I love hanging with them and being with them I n the Classicos, Club X and After 1 ambiance. The last 2 Club names are again just for hanging out.

I have had less than 10 PC of non Sosua, non pros who have agreed to go to Classicos with me and they were not comfortable until they'd had a few drinks!That's a useful post.

How one guy gets what he wants from DR, without being all preachy. And he recognizes that 95 % of mongers would not go to all that trouble, which to him is obviously an enjoyable hunt.

We don't need no newbie manual, but if there was one, it would be full only of everybody's own particular experience, without the Monger Police Patrol trying to force their own "rules" on other folks.

Tempoecorto
08-25-15, 17:38
Fwiw, my 2 cents having successfully had GFE's thru these sites over a number of visits now:So it appears that there are more than one person (I. E. , the undersigned, LOL) that look for women outside of Sosua, are beyond the "how much" pitch and do not shudder at the thought of "paying" even ahead, instead of getting freebies. Indeed, my latest trip and exposures to two Sosua women, bolstered my conviction that it is absolutely no use comparing Sosua women and the pleasures of regular women, that around the island remain accessible. Of course, it is not for everyone. It takes time, good linguistic skills (good lingual skill would also be very welcome but that comes later), respect for the other and ability to manage disappointment but to me, the rewards are very different. Also, unlike Oakie, who is pleased with one woman, I cannot handle the boredom of the same person so I switch the roster periodically. Similarly, unlike you, I am more into going to where the women are, preferring to spend not more than a day or two in Sosua, for the relaxing beach and food. I wish I had discovered the DR 20 years back, instead of doing time in Asia.

Frannie
08-25-15, 23:12
So it appears that there are more than one person (I. E. , the undersigned, LOL) that look for women outside of Sosua, are beyond the "how much" pitch and do not shudder at the thought of "paying" even ahead, instead of getting freebies. Indeed, my latest trip and exposures to two Sosua women, bolstered my conviction that it is absolutely no use comparing Sosua women and the pleasures of regular women, that around the island remain accessible. Of course, it is not for everyone. It takes time, good linguistic skills (good lingual skill would also be very welcome but that comes later), respect for the other and ability to manage disappointment but to me, the rewards are very different. Also, unlike Oakie, who is pleased with one woman, I cannot handle the boredom of the same person so I switch the roster periodically. Similarly, unlike you, I am more into going to where the women are, preferring to spend not more than a day or two in Sosua, for the relaxing beach and food. I wish I had discovered the DR 20 years back, instead of doing time in Asia.On your first trip I had a hard time persuading you to give the DR a try.

Parkinsons
08-26-15, 00:06
Fwiw, my 2 cents having successfully had GFE's thru these sites over a number of visits now:

I have had less than 10 PC of non Sosua, non pros who have agreed to go to Classicos with me and they were not comfortable until they'd had a few drinks!I don't disagree with the overall theme of hooking up with non-pros, but I question the monomaniacal pursuit of bringing them to Sosua, and an almost perverse desire of herding them into hoe bars like Clasicos and Rumbas. First, the cliche "bringing sand to the beach" applies. Second, if you want dancing and drinking, why not clubs in SD or Santiago? The level of refinement in those clubs beats Sosua hands down. Conversely, if you like hanging out on the beach, a nice all-inclusive in Playa Dorado doesn't cost much more. Or even just hang out on Sousa beach (which I have done with my non-pro). What do you get out of shoving Clasicos down their throat? I am not saying these women are saints and you're exposing their virgin eyes to P4 P, but to the degree of them having to disguise themselves and you incessantly prodding, I don't get it. I wouldn't mind learning the method of your madness if you have some devilish strategy. Perhaps you're conducting some sort of reverse Pygmalion experiment? Do your non-pros perform better after observing prostitutes? Are you trying to get them jealous to vie for your attention? Etc. Etc. Please enlighten, thanks!

Tempoecorto
08-26-15, 03:42
On your first trip I had a hard time persuading you to give the DR a try.I thought it would be the usual Burma / Thailand / Malaysia / Indonesia / Singapore / Hong Kong / Taiwan / Korea kind. What a difference the language makes. Well, actually in Malaysia / Singapore / Hong Kong, it was English but only pros. Yawn! Thanks for having persuaded me.

Questner
08-26-15, 04:44
Yes, it's just cheaper and more convenient to bring sand to the beach. A night in Santiago adds RDS4,000-$8,000 in hotel and transportation expenses, and your social media girl may still be no show there. Here is my dilemma for low season: I don't do repeats or use beer goggles and keep my standards of girls looks, and there are just very few choices, so I have to expand the search beyond the regulars in town while enjoying every day at the beach and the comfort of my bed and keeping an eye on the bottom line.

OldKool
08-26-15, 05:09
When in Sosua I can not focus on one girl. Non pros know what Sosua is about. Most will reject the idea.


I don't disagree with the overall theme of hooking up with non-pros, but I question the monomaniacal pursuit of bringing them to Sosua, and an almost perverse desire of herding them into hoe bars like Clasicos and Rumbas. First, the cliche "bringing sand to the beach" applies. Second, if you want dancing and drinking, why not clubs in SD or Santiago? The level of refinement in those clubs beats Sosua hands down. Conversely, if you like hanging out on the beach, a nice all-inclusive in Playa Dorado doesn't cost much more. Or even just hang out on Sousa beach (which I have done with my non-pro). What do you get out of shoving Clasicos down their throat? I am not saying these women are saints and you're exposing their virgin eyes to P4 P, but to the degree of them having to disguise themselves and you incessantly prodding, I don't get it. I wouldn't mind learning the method of your madness if you have some devilish strategy. Perhaps you're conducting some sort of reverse Pygmalion experiment? Do your non-pros perform better after observing prostitutes? Are you trying to get them jealous to vie for your attention? Etc. Etc. Please enlighten, thanks!

Haven123
08-26-15, 12:42
I don't disagree with the overall theme of hooking up with non-pros, but I question the monomaniacal pursuit of bringing them to Sosua, and an almost perverse desire of herding them into hoe bars like Clasicos and Rumbas. First, the cliche "bringing sand to the beach" applies. Second, if you want dancing and drinking, why not clubs in SD or Santiago? The level of refinement in those clubs beats Sosua hands down. Conversely, if you like hanging out on the beach, a nice all-inclusive in Playa Dorado doesn't cost much more. Or even just hang out on Sousa beach (which I have done with my non-pro). What do you get out of shoving Clasicos down their throat? I am not saying these women are saints and you're exposing their virgin eyes to P4 P, but to the degree of them having to disguise themselves and you incessantly prodding, I don't get it. I wouldn't mind learning the method of your madness if you have some devilish strategy. Perhaps you're conducting some sort of reverse Pygmalion experiment? Do your non-pros perform better after observing prostitutes? Are you trying to get them jealous to vie for your attention? Etc. Etc. Please enlighten, thanks!Ok, all good, valid questions man!

1. I do stay at Playa Dorada and Lifetsyle resorts with the chicas, in the off season when prices are really, really good. About $115 for 2 all inclusive.

2. I have spent probably 2 months in Costambar in total in the last 18 months. Unfortunately, everything there closes down at 10 pm and I do NOT like taking motoconchos, and the taxis from Costambar can add up.

3. I do like Cabarete, I just wish rates at the Millemiunm hotel were cheaper and their chica policy more relaxed.

4. I like having everything within walking distance, quality restaurants, beaches (playa Sosua and playa Alicia) , Playero supermarket and of course the nighttime hangouts like Classicos and Club X. I usually don't get out until about 1130-1200 at night, and return about 2-5 am, depending on the day of the week. I like the safety of being able to walk back at night. And have had no issues and feel safe in Sosua. I avoid Rumbas and the pros and keep a low key when I am out and about.

5. Maybe I do need to go to SD, have not been in decades, but generally I like laid back rural feel, low population density pure touristy beach towns over commercial metro cities with their population density. For example, in Brazil, I prefer Curitiba, Belo Horizonte and Fortaleza over Rio or So Paulo (but I do love So Paulo). And, similarly do like Mirafloes in Lima very much.

6. And no, I am not trying to run any kind of experiment with the chicas. I am just a night owl who loves a place like Classicos. I do like loud, people dense disco style nightclubs and dressed up pro chicas and the visual and sensory ambiance that they provide. If you know of places like that in SD, where I can stay at a place like Casa Cayena, at similar prices, have a bunch of quality restaurants and nightclubs, a place like Playero and an interesting beach like playa Sosua and an empty one like playa Alicia, all within walking distance (that is number 1 for me) , then seriously man I would want to try such a place. As I said, I really do not know SD, so if you know of any place with that kind of walking convenience with all the options, I would love to know. Yeah, I know I'm weird! But, I am fine being me. LOL!

And finally, I do like the quiet Puerto Plata airport and the convenience to Sosua. You are right, I need to and will spend more time in the resorts with the chicas, but after 3-4 days, the all you can eat and drink buffets become a bit too much for me. And I do not like paying extra for wifi, on a daily basis and need access to really good wifi, because I do work for myself Monday. Fridays from 7 am to about 5 pm ET, .......No matter where I am ( and spend about 5 months a year traveling ). The Puerto Plata area is my favorite right now, because of short Non stop daily flights, the relaxed low population density ambiance and overall value, walk score ( the best I have seen except for Rio), safety and the personality/ variety of the non pro and semi pro chicas.

Oakie
08-26-15, 13:49
I don't disagree with the overall theme of hooking up with non-pros, but I question the monomaniacal pursuit of bringing them to Sosua, and an almost perverse desire of herding them into hoe bars like Clasicos and Rumbas. First, the cliche "bringing sand to the beach" applies. Second, if you want dancing and drinking, why not clubs in SD or Santiago? The level of refinement in those clubs beats Sosua hands down. Conversely, if you like hanging out on the beach, a nice all-inclusive in Playa Dorado doesn't cost much more. Or even just hang out on Sousa beach (which I have done with my non-pro). What do you get out of shoving Clasicos down their throat? I am not saying these women are saints and you're exposing their virgin eyes to P4 P, but to the degree of them having to disguise themselves and you incessantly prodding, I don't get it. I wouldn't mind learning the method of your madness if you have some devilish strategy. Perhaps you're conducting some sort of reverse Pygmalion experiment? Do your non-pros perform better after observing prostitutes? Are you trying to get them jealous to vie for your attention? Etc. Etc. Please enlighten, thanks!Here's another take on your question of why take sand to the beach.

Aside from it's high score on the mongering chart (see Haven's post below) it is a good place to actually vacation. The waterfront hotels and condos are relatively cheap, with beaches, good bars and restaurants at your doorstep, and the vibe at sundown can't be beat.

Shopping and exploring in PP and a great beach dinner in Cabarete. It's all there.

I'm always faced with the same decision when I go there, to shack up with my GFE's apartment in a small town 10 hours away from Sosua, or have her meet me at my favorite bar in Sosua.

Nowadays, after 7 years, it's getting pretty consistently the latter. It's a vacation for both of us.

The clincher is the fact that a lot of her relatives and friends from Charamicos, la Union and Abajo, staff the restaurants, hotels and bars of Sosua, and so it's like being at home, and among friends.

And, I do enjoy the Sosua chica parade, and occasionally get an extra day or so to sample the local talent :)

There's no problem with taking her to Classico and Rhumba, because she wouldn't be seen dead there. Likewise she is uncomfortable if I introduce her to other mongers I have met in the bar, or on the street. She wouldn't do a threesome for me with another chica, no matter how much I offered her.

So although I'm her foreign gringo, she does have standards and limits, which I respect in a weird way. They have a strange idea of morality down there, and that goes for her family too, but I love it!

Always hate to leave, always want to go back!

Crossfire1
08-26-15, 19:57
Arrived yesterday (Tuesday) I checked into Las Palmeras. Las Palmeras is the old Hotel Don Antonio. I have never stayed here before. I booked the hotel because my friend recommended it to me after I told him I needed to do a trip on a budget. This in fact is the first time in over 50 trips that I find myself on what I consider to be a budget trip. The hotel is located on the same street as New Garden, but it is on the corner close to the main road and right across the street from the Metro bus station / farmacia. At $40 a night I didn't know what to expect. I am a big critic of shitty hotels. But I have to say that this hotel delivers well at this price point. In February on this year, I stayed at both new garden (old building) and Terra Linda. Now I feel like both Terra Linda and New Garden (old wing) are over priced. My room here is better than the rooms that I had the other 2 hotels. I'm not saying that the room here at Las Palmeras is great or anything but it is better. Plus I am saving 25 to 30 dollars per day compared to the others.

So after checking in and making the standard supply run at the supermercado, I come back to my hotel and Elizabeth is just getting off her moto to come see me. I was thinking "Damn, I have never seen a Dominican on time like this. We go to the room and catch up. She has been a friend of mine for over 8 years. Later we drink some premium scotch and the fun begins. I usually don't start my trips off with a visit from Elizabeth. I usually see her towards the end of my trips and she is usually the high light of trip. One of the reasons she stands out is because she always gives me a porn star experience and she let's me make a video of her. I love how she looks right into the camera for the money shot. After making our movie, we agreed to get together again before I leave. Later, I ate an early dinner at Baileys and went back to the room to sleep.

At 8:30 I went to Rumbas to check out the start of the action. Action. What action? Rumbas was dead as hell. WTF! There were a lot of closed or dead bars all over the place. So, I hoped a moto to explore the bars close to Europa Hotel. At a bar across the street from The Four Roses Bar I met a chica named Mary. Mary is a flaca blanquita, with Chinese eyes, and blonde hair. She had one side of her short blonde locks shave off. She reminded me of the porn star Skin Diamond (just the hair). It you don't know who Skin Diamond is, just Google her. Anyway, we had good "Qumica" so we head to the room.

Once inside the room I put on some music and she is drinking and dance and going crazy. I get my phone to take a picture and she told me "stop and wait. " Then she takes off her dress and strikes a pose. I thought "Oh shit, I think I'm going to make another Porno! So we were dancing naked and out came the camera. Then she said it again "wait. " This time she gets on her knees and put my dick her mouth. It was right then that I knew I was going to keep this chica Toda La Noche. We fucked, drank, danced and made movies. Around 11:30 we decided to go to Classicos. On the way I could see that Rumbas and the other bars were still dead. Inside Classicos, it was dead also. I was really glad that I already had a chica for the night. After drinking and dancing there, we went back to the room for more movie making.

In the morning, I fucked Mary long and hard. The treadmill that I bought is paying off. My stamina is 10 times better than before. When we parted ways Mary asked me to meet here at the beach because she is going to Santo Domingo this evening. I declined the invite, but I have a feeling that I will see her tonight on the street or in the club. It been one of the best starts of any trip that I have had so far.

On a different note. This place is fucking dead. Obviously you can still have a great time as I did last night. And I know last night was Tuesday, but this place has been slowing dying since I first came in Jan 2006.

P.S. I hope nothing in my trip report starts any kind of a debate. I'm just telling my view from my perspective for entertainment purposes only.

Frannie
08-26-15, 22:18
Arrived yesterday (Tuesday) I checked into Las Palmeras. Las Palmeras is the old Hotel Don Antonio. I have never stayed here before. I booked the hotel because my friend recommended it to me after I told him I needed to do a trip on a budget. This in fact is the first time in over 50 trips that I find myself on what I consider to be a budget trip. The hotel is located on the same street as New Garden, but it is on the corner close to the main road and right across the street from the Metro bus station / farmacia. At $40 a night I didn't know what to expect. I am a big critic of shitty hotels. But I have to say that this hotel delivers well at this price point. In February on this year, I stayed at both new garden (old building) and Terra Linda. Now I feel like both Terra Linda and New Garden (old wing) are over priced. My room here is better than the rooms that I had the other 2 hotels. I'm not saying that the room here at Las Palmeras is great or anything but it is better. Plus I am saving 25 to 30 dollars per day compared to the others.

So after checking in and making the standard supply run at the supermercado, I come back to my hotel and Elizabeth is just getting off her moto to come see me. I was thinking "Damn, I have never seen a Dominican on time like this. We go to the room and catch up. She has been a friend of mine for over 8 years. Later we drink some premium scotch and the fun begins. I usually don't start my trips off with a visit from Elizabeth. I usually see her towards the end of my trips and she is usually the high light of trip. One of the reasons she stands out is because she always gives me a porn star experience and she let's me make a video of her. I love how she looks right into the camera for the money shot. After making our movie, we agreed to get together again before I leave. Later, I ate an early dinner at Baileys and went back to the room to sleep.

At 8:30 I went to Rumbas to check out the start of the action. Action. What action? Rumbas was dead as hell. WTF! There were a lot of closed or dead bars all over the place. So, I hoped a moto to explore the bars close to Europa Hotel. At a bar across the street from The Four Roses Bar I met a chica named Mary. Mary is a flaca blanquita, with Chinese eyes, and blonde hair. She had one side of her short blonde locks shave off. She reminded me of the porn star Skin Diamond (just the hair). It you don't know who Skin Diamond is, just Google her. Anyway, we had good "Qumica" so we head to the room.

Once inside the room I put on some music and she is drinking and dance and going crazy. I get my phone to take a picture and she told me "stop and wait. " Then she takes off her dress and strikes a pose. I thought "Oh shit, I think I'm going to make another Porno! So we were dancing naked and out came the camera. Then she said it again "wait. " This time she gets on her knees and put my dick her mouth. It was right then that I knew I was going to keep this chica Toda La Noche. We fucked, drank, danced and made movies. Around 11:30 we decided to go to Classicos. On the way I could see that Rumbas and the other bars were still dead. Inside Classicos, it was dead also. I was really glad that I already had a chica for the night. After drinking and dancing there, we went back to the room for more movie making.

In the morning, I fucked Mary long and hard. The treadmill that I bought is paying off. My stamina is 10 times better than before. When we parted ways Mary asked me to meet here at the beach because she is going to Santo Domingo this evening. I declined the invite, but I have a feeling that I will see her tonight on the street or in the club. It been one of the best starts of any trip that I have had so far.

On a different note. This place is fucking dead. Obviously you can still have a great time as I did last night. And I know last night was Tuesday, but this place has been slowing dying since I first came in Jan 2006.

P.S. I hope nothing in my trip report starts any kind of a debate. I'm just telling my view from my perspective for entertainment purposes only.Interesting report. I think the current heat wave and drought in the DR is sapping everyone's energy. Someone told me today it was 100 degrees in Sosua and it definitely felt awfully hot. How many chicas total do you think you saw out last night?

Adinga
08-27-15, 02:57
Just returned from Sosua 2 weeks ago and I must say that the place is a bit hard core.

Some observations:

* Most girls were in the 5 -7 range as far as looks are concerned.

* Many of the girls are Haitian and aggressive.

* Streets are overcrowded with cars and motor conchos at night. Its too loud to enjoy a walk down Pedro Casante after 10 pm.

* Police cars begin patrolling the streets at 9 pm.

* Beach is mellow and not over crowded.

* Currency rate was $1 = 44 pesos.

* Good food is available at reasonable prices.

* Most of the tourists were Italians, Canadians, Afro Americans and Germans.

* Not much to see in Sosua after 3 days -.

GrownMan1
08-27-15, 03:10
Arrived yesterday (Tuesday) I checked into Las Palmeras. Las Palmeras is the old Hotel Don Antonio. I have never stayed here before. I booked the hotel because my friend recommended it to me after I told him I needed to do a trip on a budget. This in fact is the first time in over 50 trips that I find myself on what I consider to be a budget trip. The hotel is located on the same street as New Garden, but it is on the corner close to the main road and right across the street from the Metro bus station / farmacia. At $40 a night I didn't know what to expect. I am a big critic of shitty hotels. But I have to say that this hotel delivers well at this price point. In February on this year, I stayed at both new garden (old building) and Terra Linda. Now I feel like both Terra Linda and New Garden (old wing) are over priced. My room here is better than the rooms that I had the other 2 hotels. I'm not saying that the room here at Las Palmeras is great or anything but it is better. Plus I am saving 25 to 30 dollars per day

P.S. I hope nothing in my trip report starts any kind of a debate. I'm just telling my view from my perspective for entertainment purposes only.Good report. Las Palmeras is straight. My only hang up is their bathrooms. Anyone walking by can just look in and see what's going on in your room. There's no way of closing the windows. But for $40 per night you are saving money and have a good location.

Crossfire1
08-27-15, 03:48
Good report. Las Palmeras is straight. My only hang up is their bathrooms. Anyone walking by can just look in and see what's going on in your room. There's no way of closing the windows. But for $40 per night you are saving money and have a good location.LOL! I found an easy fix for the window. I managed to stick some papers in the shutters to keep them close. But an even easier fix. Is to just close your bathroom door and no one can see in your room. Las Plameras is not perfect by any means. What bothers me more than the shutters not closing (the window does close without a problem) is that fact that there is no dead bolt on the door. It has one of those easily picked door handle locks on the door. Terra Linda has that same kind of lock I don't understand why owners wait for someone to break in to a room before they invest in a cheap dead bolt lock.

On a different note Rumbas has come alive and has a half decent crowd. The quality of chicas is really bad. Tonight I see a lot of fat (not thick) chicas that I would even date back home. But I know that some people love them chicas. You can't knock the hustle. It's a numbers game. Remember this is just my point of view.

OldKool
08-27-15, 05:06
I have an Elizebeth / Mildre that use to service me. I had to back off of her because she would drain me. When she was through with me I had nothing left in my body. In truth one of the great things about Sosua is you can always find a girl that can blow your mine. Early in the week can be a bit slow. Europa is also 40 a night and I like the rooms.

GrownMan1
08-27-15, 05:30
I have an Elizebeth / Mildre that use to service me. I had to back off of her because she would drain me. When she was through with me I had nothing left in my body. In truth one of the great things about Sosua is you can always find a girl that can blow your mine. Early in the week can be a bit slow. Europa is also 40 a night and I like the rooms.Yep Europa is the best $40 deal for budget monger. Clean and roomy. They sellout quick- even during the slow season.

Parkinsons
08-27-15, 05:54
Ok, all good, valid questions man!

The Puerto Plata area is my favorite right now, because of short Non stop daily flights, the relaxed low population density ambiance and overall value, walk score ( the best I have seen except for Rio), safety and the personality/ variety of the non pro and semi pro chicas.Fair explanation, makes sense. It was just that from your original post I got the impression all you wanted to do was to bring your non-pros to Clasicos LOL.


Here's another take on your question of why take sand to the beach.

Always hate to leave, always want to go back!Good post. I agree that Sosua is a nice beach, I have no problems taking non-pros there, which I have done. I just didn't see the point of having "wing women" with me on Pedro Clisante or inside Clasicos.

Oakie
08-27-15, 12:20
Arrived yesterday (Tuesday)....

....On a different note. This place is fucking dead. Obviously you can still have a great time as I did last night. And I know last night was Tuesday, but this place has been slowing dying since I first came in Jan 2006..If you've been there before you know the routine, slow Monday and then gradually gearing up towards the weekend, the weekend can be crazy. You'll have lots of action before long. Don't forget to let us poor jailbirds know!

(Use the first day or so to work on your stamp collection :))

Crossfire1
08-27-15, 15:10
If you've been there before you know the routine, slow Monday and then gradually gearing up towards the weekend, the weekend can be crazy. You'll have lots of action before long. Don't forget to let us poor jailbirds know!

(Use the first day or so to work on your stamp collection :))Yes, I know the drill. It is normally slower during the week than it is on the weekends. But this is a new level of slow in my opinion. I'm sure this is the new normal.

Haven123
08-27-15, 15:17
Fair explanation, makes sense. It was just that from your original post I got the impression all you wanted to do was to bring your non-pros to Clasicos LOL..Au contraire! If there were another small town with a place like Classicos, and also the variety of quality restaurants as there are in Sosua, with a nice beach, and everything within walking distance, I would not be in Sosua.

If Costambar had a Classicos (meaning a single good nightclub option that stayed open until 2 am (everything in Costambar closes at 10 pm), I would prefer to stay in Costambar. BB does not do anything for me, and yes I stayed there for 4 nights on my very first trip.

As a matter of fact, if there were a place like Casa Cayena and Classicos in Cabarete, with everything within walking distance I would just stay in Cabarete. Cabarete has a lot of Europeans and regular family vacationers and the only hotel I liked there is the Millenium, but the prices are high, it's not quite chica friendly. But if it were all inclusive I would stay there.

Why? Because many of the chicas who decline to come meet me in Sosua would have no problem coming to Cabarete.

Haven123
08-27-15, 15:57
I have stayed here a few times before. It really is a great all inclusive with about 5 different resort hotels all within the Lifestyle Resorts Complex.

I prefer the older one, The Tropical hotel within the resort complex because it is steps from the beach and has a free wifi area there.

Right now, for low season in October, Travelocity is offering a great deal of $87/ night, for 2 people, all inclusive and you can cancel up to 24 hours before arrival, with a full refund. That's all booze (poor quality local brands, but wine and beer etc during meals), all meals, all shows , drinks and entry to disco , and unlimited booze and of course accommodations. They have like 12 pools within the larger resort complex and something like 18 different restaurants, a show every night (quality varies) , and the Ice Discotheca open at 12 midnight and is open until like 5 am.

All of the above, is included in the All Inclusive price!!

The best show nights are on Thursdays (The Carnaval show) and on Sunday nights they have the VIP welcome party and show with grand Buffett dinner outdoors. Both nights are awesome.

You cannot change chicas, so whoever you go with would have to stay with you for the duration. Must be over 18 with a cedula or DR issued photo ID.

I just booked for 4 nights in Oct starting Thursday, out on Monday! $347, including all taxes for 2 people, all inclusive.

They try to sell you a timeshare (I went through the presentation on my first visit (and declined on future visits). They are a bit pushy, but just say no! It's for those who want to come regularly with a large group and stay in a private villa and cook themselves etc. Not for me!

Just thought I'd let folks know.

Oakie
08-27-15, 16:23
I have stayed here a few times before. It really is a great all inclusive with about 5 different resort hotels all within the Lifestyle Resorts Complex.

I prefer the older one, The Tropical hotel within the resort complex because it is steps from the beach and has a free wifi area there.

Right now, for low season in October, Travelocity is offering a great deal of $87/ night, for 2 people, all inclusive and you can cancel up to 24 hours before arrival, with a full refund. That's all booze (poor quality local brands, but wine and beer etc during meals), all meals, all shows , drinks and entry to disco , and unlimited booze and of course accommodations. They have like 12 pools within the larger resort complex and something like 18 different restaurants, a show every night (quality varies) , and the Ice Discotheca open at 12 midnight and is open until like 5 am.

All of the above, is included in the All Inclusive price!!

The best show nights are on Thursdays (The Carnaval show) and on Sunday nights they have the VIP welcome party and show with grand Buffett dinner outdoors. Both nights are awesome.

You cannot change chicas, so whoever you go with would have to stay with you for the duration. Must be over 18 with a cedula or DR issued photo ID.

I just booked for 4 nights in Oct starting Thursday, out on Monday! $347, including all taxes for 2 people, all inclusive.

They try to sell you a timeshare (I went through the presentation on my first visit (and declined on future visits). They are a bit pushy, but just say no! It's for those who want to come regularly with a large group and stay in a private villa and cook themselves etc. Not for me!

Just thought I'd let folks know.Good info, but I would also remind folks who might contemplate a few days with the same chica, that you can have that (shows, unlimited booze and food, disco, and the usual touristy stuff like diving lessons, bachata lessons) at Casa Marina in Sosua.

I've had two different chicas there, and they love it. Being a registered guest seems to do something for their self esteem (and sex drive). Taking your bikini clad chica from your ground floor patio deck into a large cool AC room, is so easy, compared to hustling them back to your room from town, after you've locked down your shit.

Booked through Nolitours, it's amazingly cheap. I can get a oceanfront room for two with my non stop airfare from Canada thrown in for something like 1,000 U.S.

The bonus is that you can easily get off the plantation, and are only steps from monger heaven, if you should get there early, or stay an extra day.

Haven123
08-27-15, 16:30
Good info, but I would also remind folks that you can have that (shows, unlimited booze and food, disco, and the usual touristy stuff like diving lessons, bachata lessons) at Casa Marina in Sosua, with the same restriction, one registered chica.

Booked through Nolitours, it's amazingly cheap. I can get a oceanfront room for two with my non stop airfare from Canada thrown in for something like 1,000 USA.

The bonus is that you can easily get off the plantation, and are only steps from monger heaven, if you should send your girl home early.True!

However, assuming you have stayed at Lifestyle, I just cannot see how the 2 are comparable? I would rate on 1-10 scale, Casa Marina at 3 and Lifestyle a 8. You might have a different view / rating.

BUT, you are 100 percent right about the Sosua backup options. I most likely will go there with one of the chicas I already know, and am cool with. And I will tag on Sosua, before or after.

Haven123
08-27-15, 16:33
Good info, but I would also remind folks who might contemplate a few days with the same chica, that you can have that (shows, unlimited booze and food, disco, and the usual touristy stuff like diving lessons, bachata lessons) at Casa Marina in Sosua.

I've had two different chicas there, and they love it. Being a registered guest seems to do something for their self esteem and sex drive.

Booked through Nolitours, it's amazingly cheap. I can get a oceanfront room for two with my non stop airfare from Canada thrown in for something like 1,000 USA.

The bonus is that you can easily get off the plantation, and are only steps from monger heaven, if you should send your girl home early.And I have a JetBlue non stop for about $560 (they charge addl now for first bag) , so airfare plus the 4 nights, bought separately is about $900 US. But it is only fair that Canadians should have to pay more! LOL.

Haven123
08-27-15, 16:47
Just returned from Sosua 2 weeks ago and I must say that the place is a bit hard core.

Some observations:

* Most girls were in the 5 -7 range as far as looks are concerned.

* Many of the girls are Haitian and aggressive.

* Streets are overcrowded with cars and motor conchos at night. Its too loud to enjoy a walk down Pedro Casante after 10 pm.

* Police cars begin patrolling the streets at 9 pm.

* Beach is mellow and not over crowded.

* Currency rate was $1 = 44 pesos.

* Good food is available at reasonable prices.

* Most of the tourists were Italians, Canadians, Afro Americans and Germans.

* Not much to see in Sosua after 3 days -.I'd agree with everything you said. But I do like the vibe and all the diversity that Sosua has. But then I only hang with the pros at Classicos because I love that ambiance and have non pros and semi pros visit me!

Dunno if you like Caribbean with a Latin mix. If yes, How can you not like Sosua beach? It's a very interesting place to hang out and people watch in my view......Including the Dominican families. I find it culturally and experientially fun!

Oakie
08-27-15, 17:14
And I have a JetBlue non stop for about $560 (they charge addl now for first bag) , so airfare plus the 4 nights, bought separately is about $900 US. But it is only fair that Canadians should have to pay more! LOL.Not quite. I get 7 days to your 4?

Casa Marina carries an old bad rep, as Sir Charles recently pointed out, but after a major reno over the last couple years, I really enjoy it. (So does a well traveled guy I hang with, and he mostly stays at the high, end also renovated, oceanfront Infiniti Blu)

Haven123
08-27-15, 17:24
Not quite. I get 7 days to your 4?

Casa Marina carries an old bad rep, as Sir Charles recently pointed out, but after a major reno over the last couple years, I really enjoy it. (So does a well traveled guy I hang with, and he mostly stays at the high, end also renovated, oceanfront Infiniti Blu)Cool! That's awesome! 7 days with your wifey! LOL!

Oakie
08-27-15, 19:01
Cool! That's awesome! 7 days with your wifey! LOL!Best line of the month!

Puntz79
08-30-15, 14:31
1. Your 5 to 7 range as far as looks are concerned, could be another persons 7 to 8. It just depends on what you are attracted to. I've seens lots of 5's in Sosua, and I've also seen quite a few of 8's and 9's. There are lots of girls and you can't always expect them to be the best looking, and many of the best looking ones are always in-demand and don't give the best service either.

2. Quite a bit of Hatianas yes, but have not found them to be aggressive. The aggressive ones to me are the Santo Domingo pros that have been there for years.

3. Streets being overcrowded at night is not necessarily a bad thing. That's just how Pedro Clisante has been, and I would prefer it to be very busy than quiet. It shows the scene there is not dying despite different bars / clubs being closed every year, and the action moving down the street. That overcrowded scene generally keeps the town in business, from hotels to restaurants, from street vendors to the chicas themselves. This is the "slow" season right now, and if it's still filled with lots of people that's a good thing.

4. I actually don't like the beach being overcrowded, so that's good to see. I have been there during the busy season however, and the beach is full of action and it's relatively easy to find chicas there.

Everything else I agree with. I consider Sosua to be good for a quick weekend, arrive into POP on a Friday afternoon. Get to the action within 15 minutes and by the evening there's a good chance you've been with a couple chicas already. 3 days is good for me, 2 is OK too but I can keep myself busy for 3 days and the time usually passes by quick.


Just returned from Sosua 2 weeks ago and I must say that the place is a bit hard core.

Some observations:

* Most girls were in the 5 -7 range as far as looks are concerned.

* Many of the girls are Haitian and aggressive.

* Streets are overcrowded with cars and motor conchos at night. Its too loud to enjoy a walk down Pedro Casante after 10 pm.

* Police cars begin patrolling the streets at 9 pm.

* Beach is mellow and not over crowded.

* Currency rate was $1 = 44 pesos.

* Good food is available at reasonable prices.

* Most of the tourists were Italians, Canadians, Afro Americans and Germans.

* Not much to see in Sosua after 3 days -.

OldKool
09-05-15, 06:15
I had down time at work so I laid out m 5 days in the DR. I will share some of my plans. I am landing in SD and will spend the day there. I have 5 girls to choose from to spend the night. Having a good night of GFE takes the edge off to going to Sosua. Getting up and catching metro bus to Sosua. The 4 hour plus ride is a nice relief from the previous days travel. I start in Sosau Getting my room and groceries followed by pedicure, manicure and shave. A stroll up to the beach and it is game on. Having a good night of GFE makes me more selective. I can take my time and get a chica I want and not be pushed by a willing pro. I even planned meals at my favorite spots. Number 1 for me is Baileys. I love their sea bass and the pizza is awesome. The pizza at 500 p is a bargain. Taste great and is enough to feed you and a date. Rocky's ribs are also a must with the home fries. Last on my culinary trek is a chinese joint in Cabereti that has good fried chicken and fries. My third day I hit Cabereti. If things go well I take a pretty chica I meet earlier in my trip. This can also be a great way of getting to know a new girl. Makes them feel less a puta which pay s benefits later. The 4th day is wide open. Two options, stay in Sosua and party on or head out early back to SD to meet a chica for more GFE. I have 2 good DR buddies who live in SD. We can go out clubbing a bit and wild out. Both options are good so I will play it by ear. I head back on the 5th day at 4 so I have time for a bit more fun. If I meet something special in Sosua I will wife up and stay.

That is the plan bros. I want to be discipline for a change. I take care to be flexible but to max out the fun it helps to have a plan.

Pip Jaeger
09-06-15, 01:01
SNIP. Having a good night of GFE makes me more selective. I can take my time and get a chica I want and not be pushed by a willing pro.Especially if your SD girl shows up with another girl and it turns out to be a double GFE night, LOL. Or would that be a GFE2 x night?

My plan is similar in that I'll hit BB first. After coming off a 14 week contract of 80+ hour work weeks I need to decompress for a day or three before I would be ready for the hunt and the aggressive pros at Sosua. At least at BB I know it's merely point and click to get what I want. From the newsletters I've seen a few who I am sure will meet my needs (and criteria in the looks / body dept). After that I can slow down and, like you, be more selective. Even if I did decide to spend a spend a night alone it wouldn't be a great loss as I can save up a good load for the next good looking chica I do find, LOL. I'll be in the DR for about 2 weeks, the first week I've planned to be in the Sosua area and after that I want to visit Santiago. I decided to leave that for last in case the hunting is poor and I strike out (if it's really bad I can always swing back thru Sosua before leaving).

I'll PM you when I get there with my DR number. If your "plan" permits, then maybe we can meet up for a cold one or dinner.

OldKool
09-06-15, 05:04
When are you going to be on the ground. I am 15 days away. I hope our paths can cross.


Especially if your SD girl shows up with another girl and it turns out to be a double GFE night, LOL. Or would that be a GFE2 x night?

My plan is similar in that I'll hit BB first. After coming off a 14 week contract of 80+ hour work weeks I need to decompress for a day or three before I would be ready for the hunt and the aggressive pros at Sosua. At least at BB I know it's merely point and click to get what I want. From the newsletters I've seen a few who I am sure will meet my needs (and criteria in the looks / body dept). After that I can slow down and, like you, be more selective. Even if I did decide to spend a spend a night alone it wouldn't be a great loss as I can save up a good load for the next good looking chica I do find, LOL. I'll be in the DR for about 2 weeks, the first week I've planned to be in the Sosua area and after that I want to visit Santiago. I decided to leave that for last in case the hunting is poor and I strike out (if it's really bad I can always swing back thru Sosua before leaving).

I'll PM you when I get there with my DR number. If your "plan" permits, then maybe we can meet up for a cold one or dinner.

Ipanema Carioca
09-06-15, 09:05
Extra, Extra, Read All About It! Cuba Dave Arrested Yesterday in Costa Rica!!

http://qcostarica.com/american-arrested-in-costa-rica-for-promoting-sex-tourism/

ForceSteeler
09-06-15, 13:41
Extra, Extra, Read All About It! Cuba Dave Arrested Yesterday in Costa Rica!!

http://qcostarica.com/american-arrested-in-costa-rica-for-promoting-sex-tourism/That is sad. They kicked him out of the Dominican Republic and told him to never come back in 2014, That should of been a warning. Now he is arrested in Costa Rica? Its cool to have a little website and blog but you should never show your face. It will cause problems. Remember your visiting a 3rd world country, and they get millions of dollars of Aid from the United States every year to crackdown on so call Prostitution ([CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908)) So the last thing they want is there country to be labeled a "Sex Tourism Destination".

Llttf
09-06-15, 15:13
Extra, Extra, Read All About It! Cuba Dave Arrested Yesterday in Costa Rica!!

http://qcostarica.com/american-arrested-in-costa-rica-for-promoting-sex-tourism/The guy is not very smart. He should have learned after he was run out of the DR that tourist countries do not like their sex tourism destinations so openly promoted on social media.

Lou32
09-06-15, 15:39
Extra, Extra, Read All About It! Cuba Dave Arrested Yesterday in Costa Rica!!

http://qcostarica.com/american-arrested-in-costa-rica-for-promoting-sex-tourism/Some guys never fucking learn! *Slaps Forehead*

How many times has this guy been in trouble for bringing attention to his activities?

OldKool
09-06-15, 16:45
He is a scape goat. Please explain why it is illegal to talk or write about where to buy pussy. His crime is he did not hide his name like we do.


Some guys never fucking learn! *Slaps Forehead*

How many times has this guy been in trouble for bringing attention to his activities?

Llttf
09-06-15, 18:07
He is a scape goat. Please explain why it is illegal to talk or write about where to buy pussy. His crime is he did not hide his name like we do.It apparently is illegal in CR. We may not agree with but any country can make new laws as they see fit.

Combo
09-06-15, 18:12
He is a scape goat. Please explain why it is illegal to talk or write about where to buy pussy. His crime is he did not hide his name like we do.We don't know the the facts. He may have gone beyond just talking or writing about it. Prostitution may be legal, but pimping is not.

I feel bad for him. I met him a few times in the DR and he was a really nice guy, though a bit naive IMO. The last thing you want to do in these places is have a high profile.

Lou32
09-06-15, 18:48
He is a scape goat. Please explain why it is illegal to talk or write about where to buy pussy. His crime is he did not hide his name like we do.Tell it to the judge, LOL.

I have no connection with the guy and I wish him well but, fair or not, constantly climbing on stage and grabbing the microphone is going to get you attention and some of the attention may not be what you wish for.

Combo
09-06-15, 18:54
Tell it to the judge, LOL.

I have no connection with the guy and I wish him well but, fair or not, constantly climbing on stage and grabbing the microphone is going to get you attention and some of the attention may not be what you wish for.Yeah, if he in any way made money off his talking / writing / blabbing, it could be construed as pimping.

Henley100
09-06-15, 19:30
Extra, Extra, Read All About It! Cuba Dave Arrested Yesterday in Costa Rica!!

http://qcostarica.com/american-arrested-in-costa-rica-for-promoting-sex-tourism/That is a shame. His stuff was a helpful reference to me when I first started traveling for the hobby, as I'm sure it was for many others. He probably helped bring in untold thousands of dollars for the tourist industry's of Costa Rica and the Dominican republic.

ForceSteeler
09-06-15, 20:25
He probably helped bring in untold thousands of dollars for the tourist industry's of Costa Rica and the Dominican republic.Yeah but these corrupt governments don't care, If they even think he is making money off his blogs, they want there cut, and if they can't get there piece of the pie, They don't care, Look at the Chicas they make a lot of money and they bring tourist to Sousa, But these Chica's don't pay taxes and the local government always wants too always crack down from time to time.

Oakie
09-07-15, 00:03
How come this guy, who purports to give advice on mongering, never figured out the first rule?

1. To stay out of trouble a monger should always keep a low profile!

Or, put another way, guys who like to live on the edge often fall off!

Adinga
09-07-15, 00:15
It was the internet that destroyed most of the great sex tourist destinations.

When you find paradise and its to good to be true you better think twice before posting. IMHO.

Revere
09-07-15, 18:40
Yeah but these corrupt governments don't care, If they even think he is making money off his blogs, they want there cut, and if they can't get there piece of the pie, They don't care, Look at the Chicas they make a lot of money and they bring tourist to Sousa, But these Chica's don't pay taxes and the local government always wants too always crack down from time to time.Agreed. I would also add do you think another country wants to see a foreigner come to there country and provide a how to sex guide and talking about that country's women even if legal as prostitutes. No country wants to be shamed like that even if legal. What I am more surprised is that he got away with it as long as he did. To me, the lesson should always be treat women with dignity and respect no matter what they do for a living. You all have seen someone treat a women bad in another country and get into trouble.

Combo
09-07-15, 19:05
Agreed. I would also add do you think another country wants to see a foreigner come to there country and provide a how to sex guide and talking about that country's women even if legal as prostitutes. No country wants to be shamed like that even if legal. What I am more surprised is that he got away with it as long as he did. To me, the lesson should always be treat women with dignity and respect no matter what they do for a living. You all have seen someone treat a women bad in another country and get into trouble.Yes. Always, always keep a low profile. Most people in countries where we monger do not like us. Would you like it if foreigners were visiting your country and fucking the hot women? Even worse, paying these women more than many people there earn in a week?

Whether one realizes it or not, we are a target. What's worse for Cuba Dave is he was doing this in smaller venues. If he were in a giant city like Sao Paulo, Bogota, or Bangkok, he might not get as much attention. But in Sosua or Costa Rica, he was really a big target.

Frannie
09-07-15, 19:37
How come this guy, who purports to give advice on mongering, never figured out the first rule?

1. To stay out of trouble a monger should always keep a low profile!

Or, put another way, guys who like to live on the edge often fall off!Most of his advice was poor, especially around the time of the closure of Passions nightclub, which he seemed to be promoting. Everything he prognosticated seemed to be inaccurate or misinformed, or possibly he was dissembling.

Talion
09-07-15, 19:47
Cubadave is a douche. On top of providing lots of incomplete or inaccurate info the businesses basically ran him out of Costa Rica the first time, whereupon he slagged all things Tico, then he made himself unwelcome with the businesses in the DR, who found out that being associated with him in any way drew negative attention from the authorities, then they seized his shit the first time in Miami and got thrown out of the DR, and his colossal narcissism is such that even after that, and his slinking return to Costa Rica, that he still didn't learn his lesson, didn't keep his shit private, didn't keep his electronics clean, and once again finds himself in hot water. His stupidity landed him where he is now and it's hard to feel sympathy for him, although despite all his failures and his well-known pandering to specific business in return for good reviews he's still just a guy out for a good time. I don't want to see him go to jail, and I don't think the beef that the CR administration has against him should hold up in any court, so I hope he gets out ok, but honestly IMHO one of the best things that could happen to mongering and mongers at large would be the silencing of this man. We don't need to be collateral damage to his ego.

Combo
09-07-15, 21:02
Cubadave is a douche. On top of providing lots of incomplete or inaccurate info the businesses basically ran him out of Costa Rica the first time, whereupon he slagged all things Tico, then he made himself unwelcome with the businesses in the DR, who found out that being associated with him in any way drew negative attention from the authorities, then they seized his shit the first time in Miami and got thrown out of the DR, and his colossal narcissism is such that even after that, and his slinking return to Costa Rica, that he still didn't learn his lesson, didn't keep his shit private, didn't keep his electronics clean, and once again finds himself in hot water. His stupidity landed him where he is now and it's hard to feel sympathy for him, although despite all his failures and his well-known pandering to specific business in return for good reviews he's still just a guy out for a good time. I don't want to see him go to jail, and I don't think the beef that the CR administration has against him should hold up in any court, so I hope he gets out ok, but honestly IMHO one of the best things that could happen to mongering and mongers at large would be the silencing of this man. We don't need to be collateral damage to his ego.I met him a few times and he seemed like a nice guy, just really naive. But yes, it would be good for people like him to shut up instead of drawing more attention to us. I wouldn't take advice from him, because he didn't seem to have a clue what was going on. One thing that also struck me was that he spoke almost no Spanish. The guy has made hundreds of trips to Cuba, the DR, and Costa Rica and he seemed to have a great time w / o Spanish.

Dickhead
09-07-15, 21:06
Probably in jail in Costa Rica he will at least find out what 'culo' means. I don't know if anyone has read the interview he gave to the newspaper where he said he did not have to work because he got paid just for being who he was. That was pretty funny.

Talion
09-07-15, 21:23
I met him a few times and he seemed like a nice guy, just really naive. But yes, it would be good for people like him to shut up instead of drawing more attention to us. I wouldn't take advice from him, because he didn't seem to have a clue what was going on. One thing that also struck me was that he spoke almost no Spanish. The guy has made hundreds of trips to Cuba, the DR, and Costa Rica and he seemed to have a great time w / o Spanish.I met him a couple of times during his first stint in Costa Rica and once in the DR. Every time I saw him he carried on like he was lord of the manor, and he knew about a quarter of what I did. He'd pick specific spots to call home and he would frequently wife up and then make generalized statements about the scene, of which he knew little. What he did know how to do was to recommend whatever his current favorite place was at length, and he wasn't at all shy about asking these establishments to give him some discount pussy for the "recommendations" even when what he was saying was utter bullshit. I particularly loved when he was doing his videos right around the time that Passions was shut down, lamenting the terrible injustice that the club was suffering, while at the the same time wearing his CMP hat and starting to shill for them. He's bum-steered so many people they should rename the expression Dave-steered. He was always friendly to people though, as long as they acknowledged his Dave-ness, and he was perfectly happy to share his wisdom to whatever attentive crowd of people who didn't know better would listen. I don't think he is a bad guy at heart, but he has done incalculable damage to several businesses and the mongering community at large.

Member #4398
09-08-15, 00:36
Yes. Always, always keep a low profile. Most people in countries where we monger do not like us. Would you like it if foreigners were visiting your country and fucking the hot women? Even worse, paying these women more than many people there earn in a week?

Whether one realizes it or not, we are a target. What's worse for Cuba Dave is he was doing this in smaller venues. If he were in a giant city like Sao Paulo, Bogota, or Bangkok, he might not get as much attention. But in Sosua or Costa Rica, he was really a big target.I agree 100 percent. I would also add that in countries where P4P is legal like Costa Rica, the DR, Colombia, many mongers get the erroneous impression that because many women are doing it that most women in those countries are Putas when if fact it is a very small minority that exercise the profession. It is a highly stigmatized and despised profession by the general population, government, church, etc. Add to that those are Catholic countries where everyone is taught that it is a dammed profession and everyone engaging with or involved with will go to hell. Mongers that don't understand this are the one that set a bad example, offering money to any girl they meet thinking they are all hookers, and forgetting about being very discrete about mongering or not keeping a low profile. That is why I like to mix my travel with interacting with the local culture and every where I go is the same, the profession is despised by the general population even if it is legal. And because of this most hookers hide their line of work from their families. While I travel and mingle with the locals, I don't mention to any local that my main purpose of traveling is mongering unless I really know the person I share that information, always trying to keep a low profile. CubaDave thought that because prostitution was legal in CR and DR it was not a problem to be public about it. He just found out the hard way that it is a big problem and that what he was doing was illegal. He forgot as you mentioned to be keep a low profile and worse forgot to research that his activities of profiting (ebooks about Costa Rica, getting subscribers, making videos, posting photos of hookers in social media etc) were ground to accuse him of promoting sex tourism, proxenetism, and put him in jail. The moral of the story is we should all be cautious, be respectful of other cultures, their women putas or non putas, and keep always a low profile. And always watch your back so you don't get stab by someone you think is your friend.

Lou32
09-08-15, 00:56
Probably in jail in Costa Rica he will at least find out what 'culo' means. I don't know if anyone has read the interview he gave to the newspaper where he said he did not have to work because he got paid just for being who he was. That was pretty funny.Yep. Last line of that article, LOL!

At least when Trump talks that shit he can back it up with over a billion dollars.

I began to see the snake part of Dave's nature when he'd quickly pass along ANY bad news about Sosua on his FB page but NEVER acknowledge that it was second or third hand. It was written like he'd just got back from Sosua but in fact he was kicked out many, many months ago and hadn't been back.

Any of his fans could have thought it was fresh, direct intel and said, "Gee, I guess Sosua is dead now; I won't make that trip after all".

Questner
09-08-15, 04:00
'I don't know if anyone has read the interview he gave to the newspaper where he said he did not have to work because he got paid just for being who he was. ' -.

Has anyone got proof CD was not on ICE payroll?

Oakie
09-08-15, 11:59
Most of his advice was poor, especially around the time of the closure of Passions nightclub, which he seemed to be promoting. Everything he prognosticated seemed to be inaccurate or misinformed, or possibly he was dissembling.It was weird, this guy was semi famous, but he talked like a newbie and never seemed to "get it".

I guess what he was really good at was self promotion.

Talion's take has him down to a "T".

Dickhead
09-08-15, 12:44
He's going to "get it" where he is now! But I am sure the jury will find him innocent.

Oh; wait a minute. No jury in Costa Rica. Hard to get bail too.

Charles Pooter
09-08-15, 14:18
Has anyone got proof CD was not on ICE payroll?You can take the Russian out of Russia, but you cannot take the paranoia out of the Russian.

GrownMan1
09-09-15, 11:44
Just returned from Cuba Hopefully I write a report on that in the Cuba session. I supposed to meet my boys in Fort Lauderdal one day in Boca Chic and the rest on the north coast Sosua bound. I just talked to the driver and they were runnin late. One of the guys was not in place. I hope this is not a prelude of things to come. It's supposed to be 6 of us no first timers. These next these next 5 days are going to be interesting.

Combo
09-09-15, 16:34
It was weird, this guy was semi famous, but he talked like a newbie and never seemed to "get it".

I guess what he was really good at was self promotion.

Talion's take has him down to a "T".Yup. Not sure why anyone would take advice from him. He was less knowledgeable about the scene than most guys with a visit or two under their belts.

OldKool
09-09-15, 18:35
Dave was a very harmless mild mannered person. He treated the girls he dealt with respect. I have never seen any lewd or erotic pictures from him. He is a 65 year old white guy having fun sleeping with third world girls. I never had anything against him. I am surprised at the venom some have here. His reports were helpful to the real newbies. I never saw anything hurtful from him. I wish him well. He thought he was sharing good information. He was far from an expert but he gave what he thought was good G2.


Yup. Not sure why anyone would take advice from him. He was less knowledgeable about the scene than most guys with a visit or two under their belts.

Mr Gogo
09-09-15, 19:23
Dave was a very harmless mild mannered person. He treated the girls he dealt with respect. I have never seen any lewd or erotic pictures from him. He is a 65 year old white guy having fun sleeping with third world girls. I never had anything against him. I am surprised at the venom some have here. His reports were helpful to the real newbies. I never saw anything hurtful from him. I wish him well. He thought he was sharing good information. He was far from an expert but he gave what he thought was good G2.Agreed Old Kool. People don't understand that guys like him that have been in this game a long time are a little outdated but they still are a great source for info on the past. He has done things most of us will never do so I enjoy his tales. Let him live his fantasy and get out of it what you will, but to be kicking him under the bus when he gets arrested is not cool at all.

Frannie
09-09-15, 22:36
Dave was a very harmless mild mannered person. He treated the girls he dealt with respect. I have never seen any lewd or erotic pictures from him. He is a 65 year old white guy having fun sleeping with third world girls. I never had anything against him. I am surprised at the venom some have here. His reports were helpful to the real newbies. I never saw anything hurtful from him. I wish him well. He thought he was sharing good information. He was far from an expert but he gave what he thought was good G2.I am sorry, Mr. Kool but you have joined a conversation without having a clue what you are talking about. You know nothing about Strecker's Web sites, Facebook page, books, and other commercial activities, or his behind the scenes business partner whose strategy includes using Facebook acceptable language and images to promote the product, or his exchanges of good reviews for free sex.

I have never met CD, and, as you say, he may be very charming in person, but that is not what the discussion is about.