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Dave was a very harmless mild mannered person. He treated the girls he dealt with respect. I have never seen any lewd or erotic pictures from him. He is a 65 year old white guy having fun sleeping with third world girls. I never had anything against him. I am surprised at the venom some have here. His reports were helpful to the real newbies. I never saw anything hurtful from him. I wish him well. He thought he was sharing good information. He was far from an expert but he gave what he thought was good G2.CD had the "Sosua Syndrome" which rendered a lot of his advice and recommendations biased, to say the least.
He had nothing but contempt for the chicas, and Sosua in general. He apparently never met a local who he could trust, which is a shame if you spend any time down there at all. He spent all his time complaining about the politics of the game, instead of relaxing and playing the game.
He was just trying to hustle a buck or a deal out of every situation.
He was a hustler, not a monger.
(*note "Sosua Syndrome" is where a person hates the place but lives his life vicariously through it).
ForceSteeler
09-10-15, 00:38
I am surprised at the venom some have here. His reports were helpful to the real newbies. I never saw anything hurtful from him. I wish him well. He thought he was sharing good information. He was far from an expert but he gave what he thought was good G2.I can understand the hate, a lot of mongers don't like guys like CubaDave because they feel he is exposing there hobby. What are they going to tell there wife or girlfriend, when everybody knows DR is a sex tourism haven?. Its a catch 22. The Internet has helped me out a lot, I would not have found out about Brazil, DR, Columbia, or Asia without the internet or people like Cuba Dave. The Bad thing is that when to many people find out, Its never good. Which is the reason why DR is in a state that it is now. Chicas are hardly GFE anymore, most just want to fuck and make as much in 1 night as possible.
Manizales911
09-10-15, 04:55
Dave was a very harmless mild mannered person. He treated the girls he dealt with respect. I have never seen any lewd or erotic pictures from him. He is a 65 year old white guy having fun sleeping with third world girls. I never had anything against him. I am surprised at the venom some have here. His reports were helpful to the real newbies. I never saw anything hurtful from him. I wish him well. He thought he was sharing good information. He was far from an expert but he gave what he thought was good G2.I agree with you OldKool, I met Dave in Passions a few times a couple years ago and he seemed like an okay guy. I've spent a lot of time in the DR over the last 2 years and there are a lot worse people in Sosua than Cuba Dave, both locals and gringos.
Dave was a very harmless mild mannered person. He treated the girls he dealt with respect. I have never seen any lewd or erotic pictures from him. He is a 65 year old white guy having fun sleeping with third world girls. I never had anything against him. I am surprised at the venom some have here. His reports were helpful to the real newbies. I never saw anything hurtful from him. I wish him well. He thought he was sharing good information. He was far from an expert but he gave what he thought was good G2.I don't disagree. As I mentioned, I spoke with him a few times, and he was a very pleasant guy. And like you say, he was pretty harmless, always was very nice to the girls and others around him.
My point was he was more clueless than a guy on his first mongering trip. How could someone who has taken hundreds of trips to the DR, Cuba, and Costa Rica not speak Spanish? FWIW, I don't expect someone who makes a trip or two a year to learn Spanish, but this guy who many looked up to as an expert?
Even more, how could someone with hundreds of trips not try out places further afield? The guy had never ventured beyond the absolute easiest mongering venues. I asked him if he had ever visited Brasil. He looked at my like he'd never heard of the place. I'm not sure he could have even placed it on a map.
Dave was a very harmless mild mannered person. He treated the girls he dealt with respect. I have never seen any lewd or erotic pictures from him. He is a 65 year old white guy having fun sleeping with third world girls. I never had anything against him. I am surprised at the venom some have here. His reports were helpful to the real newbies. I never saw anything hurtful from him. I wish him well. He thought he was sharing good information. He was far from an expert but he gave what he thought was good G2.I definitely agree with this. CD, by and large, has tried to be helpful to like-minded travelers. I only know him from his online presence, but he seems like a generally decent guy. I hope he gets out of his troubles down there with minimum damage, as I would hope the same for any one of us.
I definitely agree with this. CD, by and large, has tried to be helpful to like-minded travelers. I only know him from his online presence, but he seems like a generally decent guy. I hope he gets out of his troubles down there with minimum damage, as I would hope the same for any one of us.Hotels and restaurants, even massage parlours who knew his schtick treated him like royalty. He could steer a lot of business to them, or take it away with one bad review (and like the old protection racket shakedown, not to mention a recipe for getting folks who won't play your game pissed off at you)
That's a lot of power for a guy who is no better than the touts you meet at the airport, on the street, or in the bars. Also a lot of exposure.
Like he said, "I don't need to work, I make money by just being me!
Like all touts, he could be helpful, as long as you knew where he was coming from, only promoting his "friends", but successful touts usually say under the radar.
Guys like him could cause our ISG to be shut down eventually.
Hotels and restaurants, even massage parlours who knew his schtick treated him like royalty. He could steer a lot of business to them, or take it away with one bad review (and like the old protection racket shakedown, not to mention a recipe for getting folks who won't play your game pissed off at you)
That's a lot of power for a guy who is no better than the touts you meet at the airport, on the street, or in the bars. Also a lot of exposure.
Like he said, "I don't need to work, I make money by just being me!
Like all touts, he could be helpful, as long as you knew where he was coming from, only promoting his "friends", but successful touts usually say under the radar.
Guys like him could cause our ISG to be shut down eventually.Wow! We are in disagreement, Oakie. You see a powerful, mob-like enforcer, shaking down business all over Central America and the Caribbean. A man so powerful, his incarceration could lead to a horrific backlash against legal prostitution, resulting in websites closing, website owners cowering in fear.
I see a 65 year old man that, awhile back, found a way to support his lifestyle by reporting and promoting his lifestyle. A guy that had, I think, about 2000+ followers on his infrequently updated websites. And as far as repercussions from his arrest? I don't know about Dave, but I'm certain it won't shut down the P4 P community or endanger any websites. That's pretty out there, really.
In all seriousness, I think everyone agrees that CD being so out in the open was a bad thing, especially for him. But I won't root against him and don't understand those that do. I hope he gets sprung from jail with minimal fuss and lives the rest of his days quietly in retirement. And I'd want the same for any ISG members that got into a jam overseas for something so trivial.
I never met the man, and really didn't know much about him. I saw a video or two, read some interview, but mostly he was off my radar as far as Sosua and the DR are concerned.
But, as visitors to economically challenged countries, each of us is a tempting target. Everyone from the chicas looking for a few pesos to the thieves looking for a big score, from the girls wanting visas or a WU daddy to the cops looking for a small bribe.
When we hang out in the gray areas of the law, the risk goes up, and the potential losses increase. This is what Charles was getting at with the guy who wants to smoke his weed every day. It's a lever and if the wrong person grabs it, that little crime becomes a very big problem.
Now, if you spend all your time in that gray area and constantly shout to tell everyone what you're doing, you are just begging for someone to take you down.
The DR gave CD his first warning. The US, when they confiscated his stuff was the second warning. For all I know there were several other warnings.
I don't have much sympathy for anyone who gets bit by the same dog 3 times.
Wow! We are in disagreement, Oakie. You see a powerful, mob-like enforcer, shaking down business all over Central America and the Caribbean. A man so powerful, his incarceration could lead to a horrific backlash against legal prostitution, resulting in websites closing, website owners cowering in fear.
I see a 65 year old man that, awhile back, found a way to support his lifestyle by reporting and promoting his lifestyle. A guy that had, I think, about 2000+ followers on his infrequently updated websites. And as far as repercussions from his arrest? I don't know about Dave, but I'm certain it won't shut down the P4 P community or endanger any websites. That's pretty out there, really.
In all seriousness, I think everyone agrees that CD being so out in the open was a bad thing, especially for him. But I won't root against him and don't understand those that do. I hope he gets sprung from jail with minimal fuss and lives the rest of his days quietly in retirement. And I'd want the same for any ISG members that got into a jam overseas for something so trivial.
Wow!
You see a lot that ain't there.
He's no "powerful, mob like enforcer".
Just a cheap hustler who didn't have the common sense to see what was coming! Not to mention a loudmouth that draws unwanted attention to our favorite hobby.
I don't root for anybody who defies common sense!
I leave that for religious followers.
(Feel free to follow him to jail)
Politicians being what they are, could very well cite CD when they actually did close the bars (Passions and CP) he was touting. It happened in reality, so fuck you and your imagination!
I have a buddy who really misses those bars!
Great places to leave him happy while I am wifed up!
You are apparently younger than I, so I won't be around when censoring a web site (ISG) will be easier than closing a lot of bars on main street!
I never met the man, and really didn't know much about him. I saw a video or two, read some interview, but mostly he was off my radar as far as Sosua and the DR are concerned.
But, as visitors to economically challenged countries, each of us is a tempting target. Everyone from the chicas looking for a few pesos to the thieves looking for a big score, from the girls wanting visas or a WU daddy to the cops looking for a small bribe.
When we hang out in the gray areas of the law, the risk goes up, and the potential losses increase. This is what Charles was getting at with the guy who wants to smoke his weed every day. It's a lever and if the wrong person grabs it, that little crime becomes a very big problem.
Now, if you spend all your time in that gray area and constantly shout to tell everyone what you're doing, you are just begging for someone to take you down.
The DR gave CD his first warning. The US, when they confiscated his stuff was the second warning. For all I know there were several other warnings.
I don't have much sympathy for anyone who gets bit by the same dog 3 times.Thank you! I was beginning to depair at the lack of common sense, in this forum.
We do this thing for our love of the game.
When somebody treats our hobby like an opportunity to score, follow the money!
No sympathy for a fast buck artist.
But like P. T Barnum always said, there's a sucker born every minute!
And justice always prevails, in the end!
Wow!
I don't root for anybody who defies common sense!
(Feel free to follow him to jail)
It happened in reality, so fuck you and your imagination!
I have a buddy who really misses those bars!
Great places to leave him happy while I am wifed up!
You are apparently younger than I, so I won't be around when censoring a web site (ISG) will be easier than closing a lot of bars on main street!Man, Oak, little loud with the exclamation marks. And a bit mean. I was having a little fun with you, but no need to get your blood pressure up. It's all good. People can disagree and not resort to f-bombs and exclamation marks. Sit down, take your meds, and relax. Take things a little less seriously. Youll enjoy yourself more and live longer.
Live here in Sosua on Thursday night and it is my favorite night to come. The current ratio seems about 7 to 1. Rumba is packed and a lot of chica are looking good and ready to begin the week. The police are constantly harassing the chicas and have them running and hiding. I won't pull from Rumbas so I came back to the room for rest until 12:30 am. I figure I will be on my level by 1:15 and hit the strip about 1:30 am. There is no need to speed ball. What never is for me will be there when I get there.
Man, Oak, little loud with the exclamation marks. And a bit mean. I was having a little fun with you, but no need to get your blood pressure up. It's all good. People can disagree and not resort to f-bombs and exclamation marks. Sit down, take your meds, and relax. Take things a little less seriously. Youll enjoy yourself more and live longer.Relax yourself. You started out with the "Wow!" Then you infer I see him as some kind of powerful mobster, when I actually described him as a two-bit hustler.
Don't put your words in my mouth, and we're fine.
I left out my usual smiley, is all :)
But back to the topic.
Seriously, I found out first hand CD's attitude towards Sosua. He had contempt for the town and its people, and the women.
They were all putas, out to cheat, rob and steal from the mongers. He shared that view with many like-minded mongers, some here.
Well guess what. Sosua has actually become that. Guys are complaining there no GFE anymore, just slam bam, bait and switch. I don't blame him for all this, just his share, in the pricing and commercializing of the game.
Kick a dog continuously and eventually he'll bite you. And another golden goose gets slaughtered, if I can mix metaphors.
And yes, CD with his Internet pimping, Passions with it's online "menus" accessible to every child in the world with an internet connection, do have a chilling effect on our hobby.
Our anonymity protects us here, but it would not be that unusual these days for ISG to be served with a warrant to ID some of its more vocal members, or even find some fool to set up with an [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) scam.
Let's not help them!
Member #4398
09-11-15, 18:37
This is the only link I found on Cubadave's website. Apparently he is asking for help if that site is his and nobody is trying to profit from his situation. Please note I'm not endorsing nor denying the validity of this site. I'm just sharing it because it seems to have more information about his awful situation.
http://www.cubadave.com/dave-is-in-trouble-and-needs-your-help/
ForceSteeler
09-11-15, 21:05
This is the only link I found on Cubadave's website. Apparently he is asking for help if that site is his and nobody is trying to profit from his situation. Please note I'm not endorsing nor denying the validity of this site. I'm just sharing it because it seems to have more information about his awful situation.
http://www.cubadave.com/dave-is-in-trouble-and-needs-your-help/Here's the Video of CubaDave Getting Arrested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=22&v=PeaU-eO8WDo
Really Feel Sorry for CubaDave, If I was him I would just run a regular blog giving advice, but I would never show my face. This is not the USA. Your traveling and operating in a 3rd Country, You become a target. That's what happens when you want to be famous. People will come after you and look to make a example out of you. From what I hear he can face up to 5-8 Years in Jail. Which is terrible. You don't want to know what a Costa Rican Jail Looks like, Its crazy.
Relax yourself. You started out with the "Wow!" Then you infer I see him as some kind of powerful mobster, when I actually described him as a two-bit hustler.
Don't put your words in my mouth, and we're fine.
I left out my usual smiley, is all :)
But back to the topic.
Seriously, I found out first hand CD's attitude towards Sosua. He had contempt for the town and its people, and the women.
They were all putas, out to cheat, rob and steal from the mongers. He shared that view with many like-minded mongers, some here.
Well guess what. Sosua has actually become that. Guys are complaining there no GFE anymore, just slam bam, bait and switch. I don't blame him for all this, just his share, in the pricing and commercializing of the game.
Kick a dog continuously and eventually he'll bite you. And another golden goose gets slaughtered, if I can mix metaphors.
And yes, CD with his Internet pimping, Passions with it's online "menus" accessible to every child in the world with an internet connection, do have a chilling effect on our hobby.
Our anonymity protects us here, but it would not be that unusual these days for ISG to be served with a warrant to ID some of its more vocal members, or even find some fool to set up
Let's not help them!Part of the controversy here seems to be over whether CD treated the girls well. Some say yay and some say nay. I have never met the guy so I cannot say, except that I don't think you can have much of a relationship with anyone without a shared language. Or perhaps one can somehow bypass the communication gap with nonverbal communication. Anyhow, no one really knows what goes on between two people behind closed doors (unless it is a threesome, of course.).
Ibn Buttita
09-11-15, 21:27
Hmm, anyone ever notice the resemblance between Cuba Dave and Super Dave?
This is the only link I found on Cubadave's website. Apparently he is asking for help if that site is his and nobody is trying to profit from his situation. Please note I'm not endorsing nor denying the validity of this site. I'm just sharing it because it seems to have more information about his awful situation.
http://www.cubadave.com/dave-is-in-trouble-and-needs-your-help/It seems like CD's invisible partner has now registered him as a charity. Perhaps we can ask DR chicas to waive their professional fees to enable a donation to this worthy cause from which they have benefited so much. It is only fair.
It seems like CD's invisible partner has now registered him as a charity. Perhaps we can ask DR chicas to waive their professional fees to enable a donation to this worthy cause from which they have benefited so much. It is only fair.CD philosophy.
I was just now watching a Cuba Dave video. And he was saying that it was no good coming to Sosua looking to meet a girl to marry or take back to United States, . Because she would not be happy and the husband would acquire many dependents. . Therefore it was better just to prostitute the girls for an hour.
Although this might seem like conventional wisdom here, I can see how a lot of people would find this very offensive. After all, if the beautiful DR girls aren't good wife material, why not just walk away from them? Why recommend that other men should get into prostitution.
Well I guess he will eventually get a chance to explain his philosophy and how it serves the greater good.
CD philosophy.
I was just now watching a Cuba Dave video. And he was saying that it was no good coming to Sosua looking to meet a girl to marry or take back to United States, . Because she would not be happy and the husband would acquire many dependents. . Therefore it was better just to prostitute the girls for an hour.
Although this might seem like conventional wisdom here, I can see how a lot of people would find this very offensive. After all, if the beautiful DR girls aren't good wife material, why not just walk away from them? Why recommend that other men should get into prostitution.
Well I guess he will eventually get a chance to explain his philosophy and how it serves the greater good.What he says there is mostly true, and that makes perfect sense to us here, because we are mongers, in our own little mongers world.
What most here forget, is that in the eyes of the real world, mongers (sex tourists) are perceived as no better, and probably a lot worse (more exploitive) than the economically deprived working girls (putas).
When we are bragging here about how many poor chicas we can fuck in one hour, day or week, or the "proper way to monger" or "mongers rules", to a lot of the world what we are doing is no better than exchanging info on how to rob a bank, how to build a bomb, or even how to manage a successful kidnapping.
It's about keeping a perspective on the hobby.
Only if you do keep a proper healthy perspective, will the deportings, shakedowns, arrests, closing of clubs and bars, make any sense to you at all!
CD was living in a mongers world, not the real world, and he lost sight of the difference.
Looks like they passed an anti Cuba DAve law. He is the first to be charged for the ficticious crime of writing where to find working girls in a country where prostitution is legal. What a danger. This is a crazy thing. Dave has committed no crimes and should and will be on the streets soon but a message is being sent. Do not make public that sex can be had here by tourist.
Tempoecorto
09-12-15, 01:46
CD philosophy. You are giving too much credit to characters like these by creating a separate thread. This person, whether he was a good or bad guy, his modus operandi and so forth, it is just not worth dwelling on, to my mind.
What he says there is mostly true, and that makes perfect sense to us here, because we are mongers, in our own little mongers world.
What most here forget, is that in the eyes of the real world, mongers (sex tourists) are perceived as no better, and probably a lot worse (more exploitive) than the economically deprived working girls (putas).
When we are bragging here about how many poor chicas we can fuck in one hour, day or week, or the "proper way to monger" or "mongers rules", to a lot of the world what we are doing is no better than exchanging info on how to rob a bank, how to build a bomb, or even how to manage a successful kidnapping.
It's about keeping a perspective on the hobby.
Only if you do keep a proper healthy perspective, will the deportings, shakedowns, arrests, closing of clubs and bars, make any sense to you at all!
CD was living in a mongers world, not the real world, and he lost sight of the difference.Exactly. I think too many here ignore worldwide trends and sentiments. Prostitution is legal in, say Scotland, but don't you think that is someone was making a business of promoting Scotland as a sex tourism destination, there would be pressure groups urging the government to act. Why should it be different in other small countries. Scotland can tolerate Donald Trump with his golf courses, but Cuba Jock, nae.
We hit Classico a round 2:15 o'clock. I just came from Cuba and they have beautiful women but I must admit; there is nothing that compare to Sosua's simplicity. Thursday night was a perfect example. It was simple about 300 girl come to small city with about 75 foreigner mixed in with the locals. To sale sex. The clubs cater to both cultures. The Chica's were looking so Damn good. To have so many flavors in one generalized area can really spoil a man. My man M who hadn't been to Sosua in 2 year was kicking himself for not remembering the thrill of the environment. My Regular came in and made it easy for me to make a decision. I could say she rescued me. It was going to be a hard decision to pick from such a beautiful stock. I left my dogs hanging. I was headed toward the hotel with what I know was going to be a good night session. In sosua I leave with pussy from the club. I nevertake. Hell I am not a drinker. No need have one with me. I see the chica I want and tell her what time to meet me down stairs to leave.
Back at the room; she was the beast she is appreciated for being. She was my number one Dominicana in Sosua. One pop tonight and another pop in the morning. 2000 to 2500 and a dress. Man her camel toe commands her g string like she had an afro. Pull those panties off. No hair all pussy. She gave me the hardest ejaculation I've had this year. PM for the number.
.... The Chica's were looking so Damn good....GrownMan,
Sounds like my kid after his first trip to Disneyland. Good to know you had a good time. I have been there a few times but caution to all is that DR is good if you like big breasts and asses and black women in general or at least morenas. I prefer mixing it up with European looks so I break the monotony by going to Tijuana, Colombia, Thailand etc. DR is in top 10 for me for sure. Love the simplicity of Sosua as he said: drink, fuck, sleep and repeat.
Looks like they passed an anti Cuba DAve law. He is the first to be charged for the ficticious crime of writing where to find working girls in a country where prostitution is legal. What a danger. This is a crazy thing. Dave has committed no crimes and should and will be on the streets soon but a message is being sent. Do not make public that sex can be had here by tourist.I wouldn't be putting any money on CD being out soon. It could happen, but Costa Rica is clearly wanting to make a statement. Hand the right person enough money and he might get a quick exit and a do not return card. Hand the wrong person money, or don't hand enough money and expect to have plenty of time to learn the language.
We hit Classico a round 2:15 o'clock. I just came from Cuba and they have beautiful women but I must admit; there is nothing that compare to Sosua's simplicity. Thursday night was a perfect example. It was simple about 300 girl come to small city with about 75 foreigner mixed in with the locals. To sale sex. The clubs cater to both cultures. The Chica's were looking so Damn good. To have so many flavors in one generalized area can really spoil a man. My man M who hadn't been to Sosua in 2 year was kicking himself for not remembering the thrill of the environment. My Regular came in and made it easy for me to make a decision. I could say she rescued me. It was going to be a hard decision to pick from such a beautiful stock. I left my dogs hanging. I was headed toward the hotel with what I know was going to be a good night session. In sosua I leave with pussy from the club. I nevertake. Hell I am not a drinker. No need have one with me. I see the chica I want and tell her what time to meet me down stairs to leave.
Back at the room; she was the beast she is appreciated for being. She was my number one Dominicana in Sosua. One pop tonight and another pop in the morning. 2000 to 2500 and a dress. Man her camel toe commands her g string like she had an afro. Pull those panties off. No hair all pussy. She gave me the hardest ejaculation I've had this year. PM for the number.We're with you GM. Keep it coming.
I'll be there very very soon.
Exactly. I think too many here ignore worldwide trends and sentiments. Prostitution is legal in, say Scotland, but don't you think that is someone was making a business of promoting Scotland as a sex tourism destination, there would be pressure groups urging the government to act. Why should it be different in other small countries. Scotland can tolerate Donald Trump with his golf courses, but Cuba Jock, nae.Right on Frannie!
A wee rest haven from the troubles of the day, would be, and is, tolerated, among the wilds of Edinborough.
(That's the real value of our ISG, they probably have a forum here)
But if some loud mouth limey sassanach started advertising it he would be given the CD treatment, only quicker!
(For me Scotland still holds the record for bars where I, as a young Englishman was not welcome, and don't even mention going to the local dance hall)
If I had been a different color, I would have called it extreme racism, which it actually was.
We hit Classico a round 2:15 o'clock. I just came from Cuba and they have beautiful women but I must admit; there is nothing that compare to Sosua's simplicity. Thursday night was a perfect example. It was simple about 300 girl come to small city with about 75 foreigner mixed in with the locals. To sale sex. The clubs cater to both cultures. The Chica's were looking so Damn good. To have so many flavors in one generalized area can really spoil a man. My man M who hadn't been to Sosua in 2 year was kicking himself for not remembering the thrill of the environment. My Regular came in and made it easy for me to make a decision. I could say she rescued me. It was going to be a hard decision to pick from such a beautiful stock. I left my dogs hanging. I was headed toward the hotel with what I know was going to be a good night session. In sosua I leave with pussy from the club. I nevertake. Hell I am not a drinker. No need have one with me. I see the chica I want and tell her what time to meet me down stairs to leave.
Back at the room; she was the beast she is appreciated for being. She was my number one Dominicana in Sosua. One pop tonight and another pop in the morning. 2000 to 2500 and a dress. Man her camel toe commands her g string like she had an afro. Pull those panties off. No hair all pussy. She gave me the hardest ejaculation I've had this year. PM for the number.Man you are the man Grownman and I'm stuck her in Colombia with all these beautiful Paisas who chant on the street "where have all the Grownmen gone". To Sosua of course!
Right on Frannie!
A wee rest haven from the troubles of the day, would be, and is, tolerated, among the wilds of Edinborough.
(That's the real value of our ISG, they probably have a forum here)
But if some loud mouth limey sassanach started advertising it he would be given the CD treatment, only quicker!
(For me Scotland still holds the record for bars where I, as a young Englishman was not welcome, and don't even mention going to the local dance hall)
If I had been a different color, I would have called it extreme racism, which it actually was.Laddie, sounds like you need to watch "Braveheart" again.
You can take the Russian out of Russia, but you cannot take the paranoia out of the Russian.Here, CP, I have found a magnificent example for you to follow:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3228647/Russian-actor-84-announces-plans-start-family-new-wife-24.html
Charles Pooter
09-13-15, 03:33
Here, CP, I have found a magnificent example for you to follow:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3228647/Russian-actor-84-announces-plans-start-family-new-wife-24.htmlNo, I think that is disgusting. Sixty years age difference. Maximum should be fifty. 47 is just right.
Man you are the man Grownman and I'm stuck her in Colombia with all these beautiful Paisas who chant on the street "where have all the Grownmen gone". To Sosua of course!Too damn, frickin funny! .
I assume by your conclusion that you are not a grown man? Well, most surfer dudes are not. . LOL!
No, I think that is disgusting. Sixty years age difference. Maximum should be fifty. 47 is just right.Charles, you speaking just for yourself? Or, for all the King's men? Or, The Queen, as it may be?
Exactly. I think too many here ignore worldwide trends and sentiments. Prostitution is legal in, say Scotland, but don't you think that is someone was making a business of promoting Scotland as a sex tourism destination, there would be pressure groups urging the government to act. Why should it be different in other small countries. Scotland can tolerate Donald Trump with his golf courses, but Cuba Jock, nae.Dude! Lest you forget? Who the fuck would want to travel to Scotland for the Scottish women? Or, for that matter, women in the UK or Ireland? Ok, maybe the Irish would travel to Scotland and maybe Londoners too?
Not the Scandinavians! Not the Spanish! Not the Dutch! Certainly not the French! The Arabs use a different modus operandi! Etc, etc, etc. As Yul Brynner would say in the King and I. !
So, in conclusion, your example is off the wall! Sorry! LOL! And RIP! .
Well, I think I know why YOU don't travel to Scotland for the Scottish women! ROFLMAO!
Dude! Lest you forget? Who the fuck would want to travel to Scotland for the Scottish women? Or, for that matter, women in the UK or Ireland? Ok, maybe the Irish would travel to Scotland and maybe Londoners too?
Not the Scandinavians! Not the Spanish! Not the Dutch! Certainly not the French! The Arabs use a different modus operandi! Etc, etc, etc. As Yul Brynner would say in the King and I. !
So, in conclusion, your example is off the wall! Sorry! LOL! And RIP! .
Well, I think I know why YOU don't travel to Scotland for the Scottish women! ROFLMAO!There are Thai women and African women in Scotland and men travel to those countries. And Donald Trump's father married a Scottish woman.
There are Thai women and African women in Scotland and men travel to those countries. And Donald Trump's father married a Scottish woman.I can attest that Scottish women were (are) hot.
I was a lowly apprentice working in the rough opencast coal mining fields in those days, the late 50's, so my comments about it being dangerous applied only to the working class pubs. We weren't exactly meeting literate, jovial, Robbie Burns spouting, bagpipe playing, kilt wearing characters.
So we did what young horny guys do, waited till our project filled up with imported laborers, steelworkers, and then we took over the local pubs, and did get to go to the dances, even if we had to walk out with our backs to the door.
That's where we met the sweet young lassies, a couple of which I can never forget!
No slouches, one turned me on to Sam Cooke. She played the 45 "You send me" and the reverse, "Summertime" over and over again.
No, I think that is disgusting. Sixty years age difference. Maximum should be fifty. 47 is just right.My colombiana novia of 18 months is 49 years younger than me, but I think you are jokingly saying 60 is disgusting. Are you not going to trade in your 20 something when she turns 30+ for another 20 something?
Tempoecorto
09-13-15, 19:17
No slouches, one turned me on to Sam Cooke. She played the 45 "You send me" and the reverse, "Summertime" over and over again.Ha. Don't know much about history!
It is weird to hear someone saying that some women in some specific place are not worth it. I never have been to Africa (and I would love to. Both Anglophone and Francophone countries) but otherwise, can't find a single place under god's earth, where women were that "bad".
Charles Pooter
09-13-15, 19:24
My colombiana novia of 18 monthsA novia of 18 months? Get off this board, you pervert!
Are you not going to trade in your 20 something when she turns 30+ for another 20 something?That is more than two years away. I doubt if I will still be around to make that decision.
But at the moment, I would not want to change. It takes a long time to train these girls into gringo-acceptable ways. Besides, I am very fond of her and, even more, or her two children.
A novia of 18 months? Get off this board, you pervert!
That is more than two years away. I doubt if I will still be around to make that decision.
But at the moment, I would not want to change. It takes a long time to train these girls into gringo-acceptable ways. Besides, I am very fond of her and, even more, or her two children.Always figured you must have some redeeming features.
Charles Pooter
09-13-15, 21:36
Always figured you must have some redeeming features.Are those loyalty points in supermarkets? If so, I redeemed mine last week in La Sirena.
And Donald Trump's father married a Scottish woman.And that produced one of the biggest assholes ever!
Man you are the man Grownman and I'm stuck her in Colombia with all these beautiful Paisas who chant on the street "where have all the Grownmen gone". To Sosua of course!You are in Columbia and the water is calling your name. Passing Nagua the waves are looking as good as the chicas.
You are giving too much credit to characters like these by creating a separate thread. This person, whether he was a good or bad guy, his modus operandi and so forth, it is just not worth dwelling on, to my mind.Sorry about that, but there's a point to be made here, which is that touts, whether selling pills in a bar, promoting travel on the internet, are only ever there to hustle a buck. That nice friendly guy persona is part of the deal which allows them to be successful at it.
I just saw this now from Cerebro here, and its all you need to know about Cuba Dave.
He's even trying to hustle a buck from getting arrested LOL.
***This is the only link I found on Cubadave's website. Apparently he is asking for help if that site is his and nobody is trying to profit from his situation. Please note I'm not endorsing nor denying the validity of this site. I'm just sharing it because it seems to have more information about his awful situation.
http://www.cubadave.com/dave-is-in-t...needs-your-help/ ***.
Of course this comes from your friendly guru that "advises" mongers, how not to get scammed by putas. His supporters will probably send it by Western Union, too.
Too fucking much! Lol
Sorry about that, but there's a point to be made here, which is that touts, whether selling pills in a bar, promoting travel on the internet, are only ever there to hustle a buck. That nice friendly guy persona is part of the deal which allows them to be successful at it.
I just saw this now from Cerebro here, and its all you need to know about Cuba Dave.
He's even trying to hustle a buck from getting arrested LOL.
***This is the only link I found on Cubadave's website. Apparently he is asking for help if that site is his and nobody is trying to profit from his situation. Please note I'm not endorsing nor denying the validity of this site. I'm just sharing it because it seems to have more information about his awful situation.
http://www.cubadave.com/dave-is-in-t...needs-your-help/ ***.
Of course this comes from your friendly guru that "advises" mongers, how not to get scammed by putas. His supporters will probably send it by Western Union, too.
Too fucking much! LolI offer my two cents on this discussion.
I had heard of CD about a year ago (from a press article) on the net and found his site. I also recall reading his bio (probably from the article).
Seems he got initiated into mongering only a few years ago in Cuba (hence the CD nickname).
He got hooked on it and started traveling frequently, and an internet-savvy buddy showed him how to create a 'blog' to finance his travels.
CD would travel and gather material, and his buddy would upload the material and manage the blog. They would also create and market other items on the blog, sell advertising, etc.
This is actually no different than a lot of people have done, monetizing a blog, and a lot of articles have been written on "how to finance your travels blogging. ".
Now that he's likely to have big legal bills, its only normal that the blog would be used to solicit contributions for his legal expenses.
The idea of financing his traveling / mongering with a blog is actually pretty clever; something most of us wish we could do (IMO).
His fatal error was being too high profile, and being personally linkable to the site.
I have noted other websites touting sex tourism for DR, Costa Rica, Colombia, etc, doing essentially the same thing.
His "advice" or "expertise" is a separate issue, and commentary from anyone needs to be taken with a grain of salt; everyone has their own opinion.
He was essentially writing about his opinion (like the posters to this forum) and posting them into a blog; - and we have seen on this forum how opinions vary.
I have nothing against the guy, will wish him luck in his troubles.
(Imagine if "Dominican Billy" had started a DR blog "back in the day. ".
I offer my two cents on this discussion.
I had heard of CD about a year ago (from a press article) on the net and found his site. I also recall reading his bio (probably from the article).
Seems he got initiated into mongering only a few years ago in Cuba (hence the CD nickname).
He got hooked on it and started traveling frequently, and an internet-savvy buddy showed him how to create a 'blog' to finance his travels.
CD would travel and gather material, and his buddy would upload the material and manage the blog. They would also create and market other items on the blog, sell advertising, etc.
This is actually no different than a lot of people have done, monetizing a blog, and a lot of articles have been written on "how to finance your travels blogging. ".
Now that he's likely to have big legal bills, its only normal that the blog would be used to solicit contributions for his legal expenses.
The idea of financing his traveling / mongering with a blog is actually pretty clever; something most of us wish we could do (IMO).
His fatal error was being too high profile, and being personally linkable to the site.
I have noted other websites touting sex tourism for DR, Costa Rica, Colombia, etc, doing essentially the same thing.
His "advice" or "expertise" is a separate issue, and commentary from anyone needs to be taken with a grain of salt; everyone has their own opinion.
He was essentially writing about his opinion (like the posters to this forum) and posting them into a blog; - and we have seen on this forum how opinions vary.
I have nothing against the guy, will wish him luck in his troubles.
(Imagine if "Dominican Billy" had started a DR blog "back in the day. ".In addition to my previous post, I found this online regarding CR. (Just querying 'sex tourism' and the country will provide a lot.).
"Sex Related Criminal Law in General.
The age of consent in Costa Rica is 18 for both men and women and that includes gay or heterosexual interaction.
If anyone is thinking about coming to Costa Rica because they heard it was a good place to have relations with children, I would think again.
The government here does not tolerate it, nor do the people, and there is a very active enforcement effort to eradicate it. You will never know if the person you are talking to is undercover, and there are really good sting operations that net a lot of these people each year. Fool around with kids, and you may never go home.
Costa Rica uses an antiquated version of Napoleonic law. In Costa Rica, the law is not "innocent until proven guilty" as in the US and many other countries. Here, it is more like "innocent for now, but you are still going to jail, without bail, for a year or so while we prove you ARE guilty".
I am not joking here. Those accused (I. E. Not convicted) of crimes are held in "preventative detention" (I. E. A nasty prison), for up to a year or longer, without bond, while the police and prosecutor build their case against them.
This covers ANY criminal activity in Costa Rica, regardless of how petty YOU may think it is.
Think twice before you do anything here that makes you eligible for extending your vacation in this manner.
No, the US Embassy will not be able to get you out. ".
He was essentially writing about his opinion (like the posters to this forum) and posting them into a blog; - and we have seen on this forum how opinions vary.
I have nothing against the guy, will wish him luck in his troubles.You don't seem to understand the difference between a "tout", or a "shill", "I don't have to work, I make money by being me". Steering business to his sources of influence or income.
and, a poster here who is offering opinions and advice out of a genuine interest and regard for our hobby, mongering and, in my case, Sosua.
Getting deported from several countries, and arrested at airports, finishing up in jail, begging for a W.U. handout, hardly qualifies him as a successful blogger.
I think it should be a warning, rather than just a hard luck story about a nice guy who just happens to meet intolerant corrupt cops and politicians.
(just my opinion)
Charles Pooter
09-14-15, 15:49
Costa Rica uses an antiquated version of Napoleonic law.How can you have "an antiquated version of Napoleonic law"? Napoleonic law is antiquated per se. You can have a modernized version of it (and many countries do, including, I would strongly suspect, Costa Rica) but you cannot have an antiquated version.
Getting deported from several countries, and arrested at airports, finishing up in jail, begging for a W.U. handout, hardly qualifies him as a successful blogger.
I think it should be a warning, rather than just a hard luck story about a nice guy who just happens to meet intolerant corrupt cops and politicians.
(just my opinion)Come on now, mongers, I need 10 guys to stand up and make a commitment to Western Union $100 per month to Cubadave so that he can enjoy a few creature comforts like hamburgers, pizza, Coke, bug spray, soap, and condoms (if needed) and medical treatment in his current predicament. It is not a lot to ask.
Come on now, mongers, I need 10 guys to stand up and make a commitment to Western Union $100 per month to Cubadave so that he can enjoy a few creature comforts like hamburgers, pizza, Coke, bug spray, soap, and condoms (if needed) and medical treatment in his current predicament. It is not a lot to ask.
Mr. E. and Gogo have already PM'd me to say that they are in. I am sure I can count on Oakie and Pooter too, so we are already half way to the target.Count me out.
My chica needs a blood transfusion, and braces.
You don't seem to understand the difference between a "tout", or a "shill", "I don't have to work, I make money by being me". Steering business to his sources of influence or income.
and, a poster here who is offering opinions and advice out of a genuine interest and regard for our hobby, mongering and, in my case, Sosua.
Getting deported from several countries, and arrested at airports, finishing up in jail, begging for a W.U. handout, hardly qualifies him as a successful blogger.
I think it should be a warning, rather than just a hard luck story about a nice guy who just happens to meet intolerant corrupt cops and politicians.
(just my opinion)Yes, Oakie, I understand what a "tout" or "shil" is, but frankly, that's what a lot of "legitimate" travel writers are.
(Let me stay at your hotel free, and I'll write a great article about it).
Comments like: "I don't have to work, I make money by being me" are braggadocio, but that's essentially what some bloggers do.
There are some lucky buggers out there, (easy to find online) that make money blogging via the content, marketing E-books, people who put adverts on their site, etc.
Check "Costa Rica Ticas" online and you'll see a commercial site plugging CR sex tourism, though in a less 'in your face' manner than CD did.
Shoot, they have ads for hotels, tours, travel, even local dentists.
ForceSteeler
09-14-15, 20:05
Come on now, mongers, I need 10 guys to stand up and make a commitment to Western Union $100 per month to Cubadave so that he can enjoy a few creature comforts like hamburgers, pizza, Coke, bug spray, soap, and condoms (if needed) and medical treatment in his current predicament. It is not a lot to ask.
Mr. E. and Gogo have already PM'd me to say that they are in. I am sure I can count on Oakie and Pooter too, so we are already half way to the target.My response to that is. If you got lock up in Costa Rica, would CubaDave come to rescue to bail you out! I don't think so.
Count me out.
My chica needs a blood transfusion, and braces.Perhaps you could talk to your chica and explain to her the merits of this situation. She might be willing to give up $100 per month for a worthy cause.
Come on now, mongers, I need 10 guys to stand up and make a commitment to Western Union $100 per month to Cubadave so that he can enjoy a few creature comforts like hamburgers, pizza, Coke, bug spray, soap, and condoms (if needed) and medical treatment in his current predicament. It is not a lot to ask.
Mr. E. and Gogo have already PM'd me to say that they are in. I am sure I can count on Oakie and Pooter too, so we are already half way to the target.Frannie!! You are one funny dude! ROFLMAO.
Mr E and Gogo definitely should pony up !!! I assume you are already in for $250 a month, or are you getting a cut from CD for the loot ?? JK
Perhaps you could talk to your chica and explain to her the merits of this situation. She might be willing to give up $100 per month for a worthy cause.Yeah, I wholeheartedly agree! BTW, just give her your blood Oakie! That excuse is a red herring! Hahaha.
And BTW, if you've been fine with your wifey's smile for the past 4 years, things should continue to be smiley white eh? Again JK!!
Parkinsons
09-15-15, 00:09
. This person, whether he was a good or bad guy, his modus operandi and so forth, it is just not worth dwelling on, to my mind.Yeah I think the Cuba Dave talk has run its course.
Or please move all the CD talk to the CD philosophy thread. I thought that was started for this purpose.
Thanks.
Yes, Oakie, I understand what a "tout" or "shil" is, but frankly, that's what a lot of "legitimate" travel writers are.
(Let me stay at your hotel free, and I'll write a great article about it).
Comments like: "I don't have to work, I make money by being me" are braggadocio, but that's essentially what some bloggers do.
There are some lucky buggers out there, (easy to find online) that make money blogging via the content, marketing E-books, people who put adverts on their site, etc.
Check "Costa Rica Ticas" online and you'll see a commercial site plugging CR sex tourism, though in a less 'in your face' manner than CD did.
Shoot, they have ads for hotels, tours, travel, even local dentists.Absolutely correct.
It's just that I was being a dog with a bone about your point comparing him to a poster here. With me it's all about principles.
Luv y'all.
Absolutely correct.
It's just that I was being a dog with a bone about your point comparing him to a poster here. With me it's all about principles.
Luv y'all.Cheers, mate.
ForceSteeler
09-18-15, 12:58
Yeah I think the Cuba Dave talk has run its course.
Or please move all the CD talk to the CD philosophy thread. I thought that was started for this purpose.
Thanks.For you guys wanting to know why cubadave got arrested here's the full article.
http://amcostaricaarchives.com/2015/09/well-known-sex-tourist-snagged-on-arrival-at-airport/
Also the United States is the main reason why countries like DR and Costa Rica have to do Raids from time to time and crack downs, They Get Grant Money from United States and They all have to sign a Anti-Prostitution Pledge, The only country that did not sign up was Brazil. This Bill Was Started by the Bush Administration.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-prostitution_pledge
For you guys wanting to know why cubadave got arrested here's the full article.
http://amcostaricaarchives.com/2015/09/well-known-sex-tourist-snagged-on-arrival-at-airport/
Also the United States is the main reason why countries like DR and Costa Rica have to do Raids from time to time and crack downs, They Get Grant Money from United States and They all have to sign a Anti-Prostitution Pledge, The only country that did not sign up was Brazil. This Bill Was Started by the Bush Administration.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-prostitution_pledge"So this morning the seemara de Comercio y Turismo de Tamarindo and the Fundaciand Rahab plan a conference on the topic at the Hotel Tamarindo Diri".
Interesting. Wonder if that hotel is chica friendly?
For you guys wanting to know why cubadave got arrested here's the full article.
http://amcostaricaarchives.com/2015/09/well-known-sex-tourist-snagged-on-arrival-at-airport/
Also the United States is the main reason why countries like DR and Costa Rica have to do Raids from time to time and crack downs, They Get Grant Money from United States and They all have to sign a Anti-Prostitution Pledge, The only country that did not sign up was Brazil. This Bill Was Started by the Bush Administration.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-prostitution_pledgeGood information, thanks. Will be interesting to monitor things. There are many local hotels / bars, parlors and websites that could be affected, depending on how the CR decides to interpret their law. CD may have only been "low hanging fruit" to impress the US State Dept.
Count on a Republican administration to screw things up. Trafficking in minors or forced prostitution is one thing, but consenting adults is a different matter. The GOP has become a party of hypocrites.
Good information, thanks. Will be interesting to monitor things. There are many local hotels / bars, parlors and websites that could be affected, depending on how the CR decides to interpret their law. CD may have only been "low hanging fruit" to impress the US State Dept.
Count on a Republican administration to screw things up. Trafficking in minors or forced prostitution is one thing, but consenting adults is a different matter. The GOP has become a party of hypocrites.I first saw and I thought, oh no the US is sending them grant money to stop prostitution if they signed the pledge". But then it says that the grant money goes to help former prostitutes. It sounds like a gimmick that the US started that if you stop prostitution we can help a bit. So is this a big deal? If that money was going for something CR really needs, I could see them cracking down. But this basically does nothing for CR. It just a way that the US tries to push it's values on other nations.
I first saw and I thought, oh no the US is sending them grant money to stop prostitution if they signed the pledge". But then it says that the grant money goes to help former prostitutes. It sounds like a gimmick that the US started that if you stop prostitution we can help a bit. So is this a big deal? If that money was going for something CR really needs, I could see them cracking down. But this basically does nothing for CR. It just a way that the US tries to push it's values on other nations.So Big Brother is saying: if you stop dem hoes from making money. We will pay yall.
Pip Jaeger
09-20-15, 12:48
It sounds like a gimmick that the US started that if you stop prostitution we can help a bit. So is this a big deal? If that money was going for something CR really needs, I could see them cracking down. But this basically does nothing for CR. It just a way that the US tries to push it's values on other nations.You are correct in saying it's just a way for the US to flex it's muscles and exert is prudish influence, but it's not a gimmick. The article failed to mention the significant amounts of money the US sends via assorted foreiign aid packages. Many aid packages require the respective country to addreess various human rights issues such as human trappicking (spelled correctly with "f's" it's a "code word") (ie prostittution), which seems to be a hot button right now. So yes, money does go for things that the CR does in fact need; like agricultural projects.
So Big Brother is saying: if you stop dem hoes from making money. We will pay yall.Looks like a double win for the Third World.
They get to keep the money, and the systematic hoe business goes on unimpeded, (unless some big mouth foreigner start to advertise all over the world).
All at the expense of the US taxpayer.
Sorta like that "climate change" scam :)
Parkinsons
09-23-15, 23:34
Was in Sosua a few days ago. Report coming soon.
On the way there, near Maimon before Puerto Plata, there is massive construction going on. Road is widen from two lanes to four in a mile-long stretch. No doubt this is the infrastructure improvement for the new cruise port.
Grownman how do you like the waist-to-hip ratio on that leopard print?? She may be wearing some of that hair you imported.
Was in Sosua a few days ago. Report coming soon.
On the way there, near Maimon before Puerto Plata, there is massive construction going on. Road is widen from two lanes to four in a mile-long stretch. No doubt this is the infrastructure improvement for the new cruise port.
Grownman how do you like the waist-to-hip ratio on that leopard print?? She may be wearing some of that hair you imported.She needs to be a little more firmer for me. Did you catch the fake ass on the chica beside her.
I got in at 11 checked in Europa 35 a night. Desk lady knows me. I walk around and get manicure and pedicure. Plenty of chicas around nothing miND blowing. I do 2 girls 1st night. 1st is a 3 year vet I saw her 1st week working in sosua. Holly Barry look alike. She was a little cold but great in the sack.
The 2nd was a very thin Haitian. Not my norm but wtf. She was good as well. The are not looking to wife up. Most want st and run.
Both girls did all I wanted.
Day 2 I head to caberetti. I don't like going to the beach alone so I keep my eyes open while walking. I make eye contact with a chica a 7. I invite her to beach and off we go. We caught the puBlico 30 pesos. Stayed an hour and back to the room. She looked like a school teacher and fucked like a pro. Really good sessions. Sometimes being spontaneous pays off. This is a good mid-day rump. This is my last night so I want go out strong. So many girls to choose from. I hit rumba and Classicos much to chose from. I get a 22 chica no kids very tight body slim built carrying 36 DS. She really worked hard and gave an excellent ride. She spent the night and got my morning started rocking. I had a very good time hanging with bros just chilling. I had great time food and fun. It was all good.
I was strolling Pedro I was surprised I saw Rick the owner of Rockiies "chilling with a drink. I am not a 100 percent sure but I have seen Rick many times and this guy was a dead ringer
I spent 5 day in the DR 2 in Sosua and 3 in SD. Sosua was great as usual. I am getting older so my tastes are changing. I enjoy food and beach as much as the ladies. Having discipline will make your time much better. I had really good sessions in Sosua but I missed a few stunners because I could not pull the trigger. My advise when you something step to it. The week days is filled with the pros. These girls work everyday and often very hungry. They come at you hard. I found the Haitian girls more aggressive then in the past. One benefit of being 60 is I do not have to have 3 girls a day to be happy.
I was strolling Pedro I was surprised I saw Rick the owner of Rockiies "chilling with a drink. I am not a 100 percent sure but I have seen Rick many times and this guy was a dead ringerWow. I'd be shocked if it was him. I checked out his situation on DR1 a few months ago. An article they had said he plead to embezzlement and was heading for the slammer.
The guy was at An obcur spot sitting alone with a drink. I have known Rick for 3 years. Sosua suites was my only place to stay in Sosua. If money is an issue anything is possible. I always liked Rick so I hope it was him. Read that he had 2 years 9 months of prison.
Wow. I'd be shocked if it was him. I checked out his situation on DR1 a few months ago. An article they had said he plead to embezzlement and was heading for the slammer.
The guy was at An obcur spot sitting alone with a drink. I have known Rick for 3 years. Sosua suites was my only place to stay in Sosua. If money is an issue anything is possible. I always liked Rick so I hope it was him. Read that he had 2 years 9 months of prison.I hope you're right. He was a great guy to everyone.
I hope you're right. He was a great guy to everyone.Except, apparently, the company he worked for.
Wow. I'd be shocked if it was him. I checked out his situation on DR1 a few months ago. An article they had said he plead to embezzlement and was heading for the slammer.It could have been his brother if you saw him from a distance.
Except, apparently, the company he worked for.I should have qualified that statement with everyone "in Sosua. ".
Parkinsons
09-27-15, 15:25
Spent two nights in Sosua as part of trip to the DR. I stayed at the Sea Breeze Inn, $40/ night. The front desk was trying to upsell me on their "newly renovated" $50/ night room. I took a tour and decided new paint and curtains don't justify the $10 premium. I hit Pedro Clisante around 9 or 10, just to see what's out there. Lots of girls as usual, but nothing really caught my fancy. First night a cute young girl with a Cindy Crawford mole was hitting me up with the "que haces"? What a dumb question. So I told her I was looking for a fianc, a wife, and a mother for my children, to take back to the US. If I could draw her face, it'd be what the "crying smiley" exactly look like. "En Sosua?? En serio?! En Sosua? Anyway she wouldn't budge from 2500 pesos for ST so I passed.
Neither nights I felt like going into Clasicos, so I probably missed out on the stunners -- or they missed out on me. I like to scrape the bottom of the barrel at 3 am after Clasicos closes. Both nights I found what worked for me. First night I got a SD cutie, negotiated TLN for 3000 pesos. She was funny, she gave me a schedule after the first 3:30 am pop and said we'd do it again at 6 am and then 9 am, ok? Tiny girl but could move jevi. 3 pops all delivered as promised.
Second night I got another SD girl this time for 2000 pesos TLN. What a bargain. She told me she came to Sosua that same day and would go back to SD first thing in the morning -- she had a hair appointment to catch. So she came just to make money to pay for her hair extension. LMAO!
After leaving Sosua, I went back south and stopped to have an overnighter with a girl in Santiago. Then continued back south to SD for my flight home.
Spent two nights in Sosua as part of trip to the DR. I stayed at the Sea Breeze Inn, $40/ night. The front desk was trying to upsell me on their "newly renovated" $50/ night room. I took a tour and decided new paint and curtains don't justify the $10 premium. I hit Pedro Clisante around 9 or 10, just to see what's out there. Lots of girls as usual, but nothing really caught my fancy. First night a cute young girl with a Cindy Crawford mole was hitting me up with the "que haces"? What a dumb question. So I told her I was looking for a fianc, a wife, and a mother for my children, to take back to the US. If I could draw her face, it'd be what the "crying smiley" exactly look like. "En Sosua?? En serio?! En Sosua? Anyway she wouldn't budge from 2500 pesos for ST so I passed..Thanks for the report, Parky. Ditto OldKool.
"En Sosua?", lol. In the old days she would have said, "Mi para tu", and glommed on to you, and fought off all challengers :)
I was waiting for my well heeled buddy to declare, (he picks up the tab for our week in the sun) but he's too busy, so I am going down in a couple of weeks.
I always tell my chica, when is good? And give her two dates. I could just tell her to get her ass to Sosua, but after 7 years, I give her some leeway, so we don't have her cousins, the hotel cleaners, washing out menstrual stains from the sheets.
But whenever I give her the dates, like this time, Oct 12 o Oct 19, she always says, "Ahora, pronto".
I think she loves me! .
Anyway, I got a ticket for 7 days at the Casa Marina, , on the beach, all inclusive, including non stop return flight from Toronto (Nolitours) for $471 USA dolares.
Read it and weep!
In Sosua you have two distinct types of chicas. The 7 day a week chicas and the weekend cruisers. The 7 day a week girls have been strolling the streets for years. One chica I saw was 21 and working every day for 3 years. All sweetness and innocence is long gone. These are the leche papi and rise and fly girls. They are much like the working girls in the states that none of us care for. These girls rarely step into Classicos but can be found trolling the streets. Their dream is a horni newby. Many will give you a good professional ride.
The week end girls tend to be fresher and less jaded. They come looking for quick money and fun if it can be had. They want top dollar if possible but can be worked if you have decent game.
Both type of girls have use and help make a good time in Sosua. The hardest thing about Sosua is controlling your self. You need to chose carefully. In my next trip in February I have a 3 some planed with bi chica I know there and gorgeous thick brown skinned babe who I have seen twice and not hooked up with.
Lastly you have to pace your self. Most of us are on the wrong side of 40. Fucking 3 and 4 girls a day is hard when you are 20. Two really good sessions is better then 3 efforts when there is nothing left in your nuts. I have learned much more from mistakes then from my successes. Make your vacation as relaxed as much as possible. Enjoy the beaches, food and women they will wait for you.
Anyway, I got a ticket for 7 days at the Casa Marina, , on the beach, all inclusive, including non stop return flight from Toronto (Nolitours) for $471 USA dolares.
Read it and weep!Yep, I'm weeping in Southern California, and you have to return to Toronto.:)
Thanks for the updates.
Yep, I'm weeping in Southern California, and you have to return to Toronto.:)
Thanks for the updates.Yeah, but I was there in 1972, SF, too. Tail end of the free love and flowers.
Too bad you missed all that! .
Yeah, but I was there in 1972, SF, too. Tail end of the free love and flowers.
Too bad you missed all that! .Tail end of free love in SFO? Freudian slip my friend? ! LOL.
Yep, I'm weeping in Southern California, and you have to return to Toronto.:)
Thanks for the updates.Hey, here's an update. Seems I was exaggerating a wee bit. Just got the final credit card charge of $600 USA For my trip. Upgraded to a Superior Oceanview room, and with a bit of luck, I'll get my usual ground floor room almost on the beach.
(They added a single occupancy charge, and seat selection too).
I like to live dangerously. I turned down the medical insurance this time.
Spent two nights in Sosua as part of trip to the DR. I stayed at the Sea Breeze Inn, $40/ night..Sea Breeze I thought I taught you better. On the outside of Classico is good hunting for your solo style smart move.
Anyway, I got a ticket for 7 days at the Casa Marina, , on the beach, all inclusive, including non stop return flight from Toronto (Nolitours) for $471 USA dolares.
Read it and weep!Damn good price!
In Sosua you have two distinct types of chicas. The 7 day a week chicas and the weekend cruisers. The 7 day a week girls have been strolling the streets for years. One chica I saw was 21 and working every day for 3 years. All sweetness and innocence is long gone. These are the leche papi and rise and fly girls. They are much like the working girls in the states that none of us care for. These girls rarely step into Classicos but can be found trolling the streets. Their dream is a horni newby. Many will give you a good professional ride.
The week end girls tend to be fresher and less jaded. They come looking for quick money and fun if it can be had. They want top dollar if possible but can be worked if you have decent game.
In love the weekend party chicas. With a trained eye- one can see the different in Classico.
These girls are actually selective. If the do not like your look or style they will blow you off. However if you get the right ones what a ride.
In love the weekend party chicas. With a trained eye- one can see the different in Classico.
Damn good price!Yeah I agree mucho!! Bloody Canadians! They should have to pay more for the chicas and at Classicos, eh? LOL.
Anyone on the ground in Sosua can tell me what the exchange rate for US dollars.
Thanks
Anyone on the ground in Sosua can tell me what the exchange rate for US dollars.
ThanksSeems to have levelled out at 45 for the past month.
Yeah I agree mucho!! Bloody Canadians! They should have to pay more for the chicas and at Classicos, eh? LOL.Well, your wish has come true.
Our dollar, at par two years ago is now only worth 75 cents USA I get 34 peso to my dollar.
Where's the love y'all?
Well, your wish has come true.
Our dollar, at par two years ago is now only worth 75 cents USA I get 34 peso to my dollar.
Where's the love y'all?But, Oakie you have the best Wifie! So, she's got all the love you can probably handle! . LOL.
Its 45 pesos to the dollar.
It's early but Rumbas is already half packed. Personally I can't stand that place with those hardcore tricks. I was just walking through and saw some friends from the states and they already had a party going at their table with 3 dudes and 5 women. Just stayed a few minutes and split. Merengue was empty and winners circle was empty. Damn! Back to Rumbas but after that went to city lights (big mommas place), she was there and started giving me drinks. I don't usually drink till after 10 pm but fuck it. Just ran into my uncles and they buying drinks, fuck it I'm just hanging in Sosua letting things come to me. More later just an intro.
It's early but Rumbas is already half packed. Personally I can't stand that place with those hardcore tricks. I was just walking through and saw some friends from the states and they already had a party going at their table with 3 dudes and 5 women. Just stayed a few minutes and split. Merengue was empty and winners circle was empty. Damn! Back to Rumbas but after that went to city lights (big mommas place), she was there and started giving me drinks. I don't usually drink till after 10 pm but fuck it. Just ran into my uncles and they buying drinks, fuck it I'm just hanging in Sosua letting things come to me. More later just an intro.Thanks for the update Mr. Gogo!
BTW, don't fuck OUR girl, I want her to be fresh for me next month!:p
I'm sitting at Romanitas bar in front of Europa and I notice more girls doing "in call " service where they don't leave the room. I'm now looking at a chocolate sister with bedroom eyes and a banging body who I initially saw earlier on my introduction walk around. She just walked by me to sit in Europa for five minutes and he came down. Damn! Now mongers don't want to leave the room to pull. Classicos is still the premier spot but I just chilled. Trying to find me an off brand average looking Chica who appreciates my deniro. Saw a few regulars but now they are begging for 100 pesos when you tell them " mas tarde", a complete turn off. A few girls on the corner but they have to come at me a certain way to draw my interest. The highlight of the evening was a Chica offered to ride me around Sosua on her moped and pulled over in the area of the casino and gave me a blowjob for 200 p gas money.
That's Sosua for you average days and better days to follow.
Thanks for the update Mr. Gogo!
BTW, don't fuck OUR girl, I want her to be fresh for me next month!:pI think she has reached her expiration date for Sosua because she is not here. Well, it was a good run with her and we have some memories for the old folks home LOL.
We have created the environment. No matter how hard they try to please we kick them to the curb and look for the next chica. We are sport fucking and the girls are our prey. That is why Sosua loses its luster for long time mongers. Sosua fills the niche for the casual mongers very well. However if you are looking far a GFE experience you have to do some work. The girls get frustrated trying to attract enough guys to support their life styles.
I think she has reached her expiration date for Sosua because she is not here. Well, it was a good run with her and we have some memories for the old folks home LOL.
I stopped by Eric tours as you walk down the hill to the beach to discuss recent developments. He said Carnival cruise line has had about 20 meetings with local business owners to get input and exchange ideas. No sales talk was discussed but carnival has initially reached out.
Talked to another guy who said the girl trade won't come into play because the groups would be structured and not around in the late evening.
Also talked to Russell Brown who is the owner of two adjacent bars on the beach. El Torro negro 107-108 and he is finishing up construction. Russell is a retired military vet who is from St Pete Florida and is looking forward to sharing his paradise with us.
Hooked up with WRX2005 and traded info, cool guy very down to earth guy willing to share valuable info. Grownman and his crew came through and we posted up across from Rumbas with premier seating for the show. At 11;15 the crowd shifter west toward Classicos and we followed.
Now here's the clicker, my ex works the window at Classicos and she doesn't know I'm there. She rolls her eyes as I pay 400 p for me and my boy with a 1000 note. I forget my change as I want to move past this tense situation. On Fridays and probably Saturday also Classicos has now placed all seating at an 1000 p premium. You can stand at the bar or in the walk ways but it's a 1000 p to have a seat.
It's ironic because the previous night I saw my friend who does security at Classicos standing outside saying he was hungry but I just played him off. I then slid him 200 p in Classicos that night. Well this night with the table premium shit my friend got me a table for nothing. Good karma coming back. An hour later we were asked to move as two girls paid the 1000 p premium for our table. Fuck this I'm out.
Now I'm trolling putter bars for shit, but that's cool.
Russell is a retired military vet who is from St Pete Florida and is looking forward to sharing his paradise with us.A retired military vet; I already like the guy!
Thanks for the updates!
Most of the SW and girls on the strip at night are quick in and out fucks and all business. If your looking to spend quality time with a Chica its best to troll the outer bars or get a girl from the beach, these girls despise the strip at night. They aren't clock watchers and tend to appreciate the money and time spent more. After 3 nights on the strip I'm probably going to invite my friend who works on the beach for a date and have her spend the night. Friday and Saturday Sosua nights changes for the worse. It's a show but has no essence, it's a free fall. Earlier in the week has more meaning for me because it's more relaxed and real.
If you visit Sosua often like I do, you can actually witness good girls becoming jaded and it's a sad sight. Turnover is high. Girls are working in teams like a weekend work crew, with the SD girls dominating and a few Santiago girls working Friday and Saturday, the local girls have been pushed out unless they are connected with the SD crews. I see very few independent girls working the strip, you may think they are independent but they are affiliated with some SD crew to survive at night in the New Sosua. The local girls are working during the days while the SD girls are resting for the night. The local girls work the beach, massage parlor, restaurants and might even walk the street but at night time it's back to Montellano, Puerto Plata or La Union to hangout or party and get out of the SD girls office. Sinatras is the most talked about new spot with its 2-4-1 dinner specials and live music.
Sosua has become a hustle and everyone has their hand out. It's some pretty girls on the stroll but it might be best to select the average looking girl if you want some quality time and a more meaningful experience. Now it's on to Santiago.
I stopped by Eric tours as you walk down the hill to the beach to discuss recent developments. He said Carnival cruise line has had about 20 meetings with local business owners to get input and exchange ideas. No sales talk was discussed but carnival has initially reached out.
Talked to another guy who said the girl trade won't come into play because the groups would be structured and not around in the late evening.
Also talked to Russell Brown who is the owner of two adjacent bars on the beach. El Torro negro 107-108 and he is finishing up construction. Russell is a retired military vet who is from St Pete Florida and is looking forward to sharing his paradise with us.Twenty meetings is interesting, I really never thought that Sosua would be affected but that's a lot of effort. I don't think anyone at this point knows what will happen to Sosua. I do know part of the charm for me was that I didn't see middle class American woman and families there. Seeing hookers are big issue for your typical conservative American middle class married woman. If they see just one girl walking around or a 21 year old girl holding hands with a 70 year man that's all they are going to talk about and they will go home and write a review saying the place is infested with hookers.
But the girls are only part of the problem and probably the easiest thing to fix. Americans in general take no risk on vacations. After talking to some investors over the years I think it's something Dominicans and Europeans don't fully understand but Carnival does I am sure. The lack of good accessible bathrooms, terrible sidewalks, having to play frogger to cross the street, the scams, the moto a-holes, drugs, traffic, empty rundown buildings, and noise are much harder to fix. For example how long did the moto vests last or one way enforcement. I just can't see American ship cruisers walking around Sosua as it is now, there are currently so many ways to find yourself in trouble. But if people start selling to Carnival well....my guess is there are some big plans, there a lot of ships scheduled per month coming up.
ForceSteeler
10-10-15, 19:44
Most of the SW and girls on the strip at night are quick in and out fucks and all business. If your looking to spend quality time with a Chica its best to troll the outer bars or get a girl from the beach, these girls despise the strip at night. They aren't clock watchers and tend to appreciate the money and time spent more. After 3 nights on the strip I'm probably going to invite my friend who works on the beach for a date and have her spend the night. Friday and Saturday Sosua nights changes for the worse. It's a show but has no essence, it's a free fall. Earlier in the week has more meaning for me because it's more relaxed and real.
If you visit Sosua often like I do, you can actually witness good girls becoming jaded and it's a sad sight. Turnover is high. Girls are working in teams like a weekend work crew, with the SD girls dominating and a few Santiago girls working Friday and Saturday, the local girls have been pushed out unless they are connected with the SD crews. I see very few independent girls working the strip, you may think they are independent but they are affiliated with some SD crew to survive at night in the New Sosua. The local girls are working during the days while the SD girls are resting for the night. The local girls work the beach, massage parlor, restaurants and might even walk the street but at night time it's back to Montellano, Puerto Plata or La Union to hangout or party and get out of the SD girls office. Sinatras is the most talked about new spot with its 2-4-1 dinner specials and live music.
Sosua has become a hustle and everyone has their hand out. It's some pretty girls on the stroll but it might be best to select the average looking girl if you want some quality time and a more meaningful experience. Now it's on to Santiago.Yeah Sosua is pretty much hardcore, its was fun a few years ago, I usually go once a year now, Not the 5 Times a Year like how I use to visit the town. Now that Brazil Currency is almost 4 to 1, you will hardly ever catch me in Sosua like that. I Rather spend my hard earn money on some Brazilian Women, There in Killer Shape and they give the best GFE. Not your typical Sosua rat that just want you to leche as quickly as possible and hop onto the next trick. Brazilian women like there Jobs and Take Pride in pleasing there clients. Sosua is to close to America.
Charles Pooter
10-10-15, 20:15
But the girls are only part of the problem and probably the easiest thing to fix. Americans in general take no risk on vacations. After talking to some investors over the years I think it's something Dominicans and Europeans don't fully understand but Carnival does I am sure. The lack of good accessible bathrooms, terrible sidewalks, having to play frogger to cross the street, the scams, the moto a-holes, drugs, traffic, empty rundown buildings, and noise are much harder to fix.Thoughtful post, as ever, Doker.
You have mentioned one word which I consider critical, yet I have not previously seen it in the hundreds of posts about the Carnival scheme which I have read on the wh_oreboards, DR1, travel forums, etc, - "bathrooms".
Strange American euphemism as 99% of the time one does not seek them to have a bath. We English call them "lavatories" (originally also a euphemism as it meant somewhere to wash). Somewhere to p_iss or shit.
Middle-class people from First World countries are mostly horrified to use dirty, ill-equipped, and insanitary-looking lavatories. Our family's first overseas holiday after WWII was to Brittany. My father's experience in a public toilet there cast a shadow over his holiday. He swore he would never go back to France and he never did. He was still advising friends to avoid France because of the public lavatories thirty years later.
Dominicans won't get this. I have been in smart upper-middle class restaurants in the DR with big new SUVs filling the car-park but the crapper blocked and the floors running with p_iss. For Dominicans, that is normal, so it would not occur to them to improve things.
I may have missed it, but I have seen no initiatives to build modern, hygienic and well-staffed toilets in Pto Pta or Sosua.
Thoughtful post, as ever, Doker.
You have mentioned one word which I consider critical, yet I have not previously seen it in the hundreds of posts about the Carnival scheme which I have read on the wh_oreboards, DR1, travel forums, etc, - "bathrooms".
Strange American euphemism as 99% of the time one does not seek them to have a bath. We English call them "lavatories" (originally also a euphemism as it meant somewhere to wash). Somewhere to p_iss or shit.
Middle-class people from First World countries are mostly horrified to use dirty, ill-equipped, and insanitary-looking lavatories. Our family's first overseas holiday after WWII was to Brittany. My father's experience in a public toilet there cast a shadow over his holiday. He swore he would never go back to France and he never did. He was still advising friends to avoid France because of the public lavatories thirty years later.
Dominicans won't get this. I have been in smart upper-middle class restaurants in the DR with big new SUVs filling the car-park but the crapper blocked and the floors running with p_iss. For Dominicans, that is normal, so it would not occur to them to improve things.
I may have missed it, but I have seen no initiatives to build modern, hygienic and well-staffed toilets in Pto Pta or Sosua.Sir Charles,
It occurs to me that if "public" toilets were built, they would probably have to be guarded, to prevent theft (toilet paper, etc) and keep them from being trashed.
Charles Pooter
10-11-15, 01:15
Sir Charles,
It occurs to me that if "public" toilets were built, they would probably have to be guarded, to prevent theft (toilet paper, etc) and keep them from being trashed.Well, there are some public toilets. Along the Malecon in Pto Pta for example. Some are quite decent. Each would need two attendants, one for each sex, to check and clean-up every time a Dominican used one. Finding people to do that miserable job for a few hundred pesos a week plus tips would not be difficult. There would be a queue.
But there are not enough and not in the right places where tourists want to go. I cannot recall a "public" toilet in Sosua, apart from those on the beach, and they are barely acceptable.
I may have missed it, but I have seen no initiatives to build modern, hygienic and well-staffed toilets in Pto Pta or Sosua.Hygienic and well staffed toilets for tourists are certainly not a priority for Dominicans.
Public toilets reflect the population at large, so NA standard facilities would be a anomaly there.
Maybe commercialize them PFP (pay for [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)) but I'm sure they'd fill up with touts handing you toilet paper and demanding payment.
If you go to Sosua, don't expect the comforts of home, because you are not paying for the comforts of home.
In the old days more daring hotel guests in Mexico would be offered a "night life" tour that included at least one club/brothel stop. Maybe that's the only kind of tour Sosua would get from cruise ships. Included in the price would be condoms, rubber boots and a ticket for 2 free drinks.
Hygienic and well staffed toilets for tourists are certainly not a priority for Dominicans.
Public toilets reflect the population at large, so NA standard facilities would be a anomaly there.
Maybe commercialize them PFP (pay fothey'd fill up with touts handing you toilet paper and demanding payment.
If you go to Sosua, don't expect the comforts of home, because you are not paying for the comforts of home.
In the old days more daring hotel guests in Mexico would be offered a "night life" tour that included at least one club/brothel stop. Maybe that's the only kind of tour Sosua would get from cruise ships. Included in the price would be condoms, rubber boots and a ticket for 2 free drinks.I have always used the ones at Merengue Bar. Tour buses may also have a loo at the back. But, no, there are no large scale public loos in Sosus. Perhaps the property formerly known as Passions would make a nice Pissoir-cum- souvenir shop, or museum of the sex industry.
Well, there are some public toilets. Along the Malecon in Pto Pta for example. Some are quite decent. Each would need two attendants, one for each sex, to check and clean-up every time a Dominican used one. Finding people to do that miserable job for a few hundred pesos a week plus tips would not be difficult. There would be a queue.
But there are not enough and not in the right places where tourists want to go. I cannot recall a "public" toilet in Sosua, apart from those on the beach, and they are barely acceptable.I wish gas station toilets in the you S had attendants too. It seems like Dominicans come over in large numbers just to leave toilets unflushed, loo paper on the floor, etc.
Slept late as usual and hit Grownman up on Wassap to see if he was getting breakfast. He said meet him at Midtown hotel (formerly Don Antonio) for lunch at 11:30. After lunch we walked around but the heat made us think of other plans. Grownman was headed to the crib for an afternoon delight and nap while me and one of the boys decided to find a shady bar and girl watch. Grownman said he will be out around 3.
We head to big mommas on the beach and enjoy the show as girls on the "Sosua beach circuit"make their repeat rounds every 30 minutes. We get numbers and post up there till sunset. Presidente 100 p, Cuba libre 100 p, chicken fingers platter with fries 370 p. One girl works at the bar next to big mommas and lives in Puerta plata so we exchange numbers.
On our way walking out the beach we make nighttime plans, GM is going to lay low in some pussy till about 1 am and then hit the strip, I leave in the morning so I go pack now.
I can't figure out how I want to spend my last night in Sosua. I'm bored with the strip, and my mind is split, half of me wants some pussy and half of me say lay low and just chill. I decide to go down to Romanitas bar (in front of Europa) and see if one of these skanks hanging around catches my fancy. While sitting there the beach girl hits me on what's up. Also WRX2005 hits me and says he's stopping by, well so much for taking it easy tonight. Beach girl comes by from POP and WRX is impressed. I go to the hotel to shower and change and leave WRX to entertain the girl till I return. When I return WRX had made his play and got the friend hookup, so we have to wait for her to arrive. She arrives and WRX wasn't impressed but we brought them a few drinks till me and WRX can figure out how to abort this mission.
My options had also increased, Chica working city lights was bored and wanted me there, two girls wanted to meet in front of Rumbas, Sosua is a full green light now for me. I devise a plan with WRX and pickup my phone and walk away urgently for a conversation and walk back. I tell the girls my boys were in trouble and we had to go up to Classicos ASAP, I paid the bill, gave the girls a few pesos for publico to POP and whispered to WRX to meet me in 15 minutes at the bar across from Baileys, they would never go there. I hail a motochonco and disappear into the night. Five minutes later I'm at the bar across from Baileys having a drink thinking I was slick when the beach girl rides by on the back of a motochonco and looks directly at me. I hear my Sosua name yelled as I see the red brake light from the motochonco, damn I'm busted. I wanted to run but I hadn't paid for my drink. The look she had as she walked up on me was one I won't soon forget. Now it's time for me to do damage control so I put everything on WRX. I said" he didn't like your friend, I didn't know how to tell you, I was going to call you later" and it worked. She said I was a sweet individual for not wanting to hurt their feelings. I texted WRX and said "we" busted not just "me"to give him the heads up. He never got the message and walks up 15 minutes later and the girl is already there, he is like WTF.
To make a long story short the girl gave me the best sex this year so far, stayed till the morning and walked to the bus station with me for my exit. Here is a girl I've ditched twice before, proving to be that hidden gem I was always looking for, only in Sosua does it happen like that.
I have always used the ones at Merengue Bar. Tour buses may also have a loo at the back. But, no, there are no large scale public loos in Sosus. Perhaps the property formerly known as Passions would make a nice Pissoir-cum- souvenir shop, or museum of the sex industry.It's not all bad, there's always a place to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134). And where else is it not unusual to be offered a blow job while you're standing there.
(from a female, that is :))
Riky Rapido
10-12-15, 16:31
I wish gas station toilets in the you S had attendants too. It seems like Dominicans come over in large numbers just to leave toilets unflushed, loo paper on the floor, etc., well unflushed toilets are like this, this country sits on a rock, Dominicans don't flush paper down the toilets because the solid waste fills up the septic systems. Also, many places water is in short supply, if it's yellow, let it mellow, if it's brown, flush it down. Most every house or business has a waste basket lined with a plastic bag to dispose of the waste paper. Learning not to flush the paper down is simple. Blaming the Dominicans for practicing an age old problem is wrong. They have the septic problem figured out.
, well unflushed toilets are like this, this country sits on a rock, Dominicans don't flush paper down the toilets because the solid waste fills up the septic systems. Also, many places water is in short supply, if it's yellow, let it mellow, if it's brown, flush it down. Most every house or business has a waste basket lined with a plastic bag to dispose of the waste paper. Learning not to flush the paper down is simple. Blaming the Dominicans for practicing an age old problem is wrong. They have the septic problem figured out.Actually, I was just kidding, my point being that people including many adults not knowing how to use toilets properly seems to be a universal problem. There is a lot to be said for the toilet-paper-in-the-basket system.
Parkinsons
10-13-15, 04:36
Seeing hookers are big issue for your typical conservative American middle class married woman. If they see just one girl walking around or a 21 year old girl holding hands with a 70 year man that's all they are going to talk about and they will go home and write a review saying the place is infested with hookers.This middle class conservative American man seemed to have the same sentiment as well.
http://youtu.be/Dpb7w7WRpNE
Very insightful analysis. Must watch the whole thing.
To make a long story short the girl gave me the best sex this year so far, stayed till the morning and walked to the bus station with me for my exit. Here is a girl I've ditched twice before, proving to be that hidden gem I was always looking for, only in Sosua does it happen like that.Hey mi amigo!
How about sharing some info on our future wife!
I will be there next month and would love to have sloppy seconds; is there an echo in here?
I promise to take good care of her, for at least one session!
Think of all the stories we will share in the old folks home, wait a damn minute, I'm already in a old folks home; Dammit!
Hey mi amigo!
How about sharing some info on our future wife!
I will be there next month and would love to have sloppy seconds; is there an echo in here?
I promise to take good care of her, for at least one session!
Think of all the stories we will share in the old folks home, wait a damn minute, I'm already in a old folks home; Dammit!It will probably be sloppy thirds because another guy from this board has already made a play for her LOL. Actually she is a keeper and he is a good guy so hopefully they will make a love connection because I would love to see her happy long term. Check your email I will send you photos of her. I really hate to let her go but he lives there and can give her the attention she needs regularly.
Tempoecorto
10-15-15, 15:29
I was in Sosua this past weekend. Saturday and Sunday. Got there from Santiago by Javilla (120 pesos) and then paid 100 pesos for two seats in the carro that leaves from Pto Pta for Sosua. Overall Metro is a better deal hence, in terms of competitive price (210 P) but mostly for comfort.
I wanted to be in Casa Valeria but they had a room free only for one night out of the two. I hence opted for Hotel Don Andres. $45 for a "studio" first floor. Very clean and spacious. The bar was nice and right outside which worked well for breakfast. There was a pool which was quite nice as the sun went down. This was a place that I found frequented only (or mostly) by the Dutch. Friendly crowd. They do check the ID.
I had a woman visit me the evening of Saturday, from Pto Pta. I had already posted a picture of hers under another thread prior to my trip (the green top) in a group of four that I was supposed to meet this trip. Speaking of this conversation of pro and non pro, I find the "non pros" often have to be guided as to what pleases you. It is certainly my experience. The flip side of the coin is that, these lasses are often extremely malleable and willing to do what pleases you.
On Sunday, during the day, I had no plan and so decided to go visit Belkis during the day. Had a massage there and a release. 40 minutes and very comfortable. As I was coming back, and it was around 3 in the afternoon, the sun was merciless, I saw a woman walking by the path where Don Andres is. I had a quick chat, invited her in. She too was from POP, 19 with a child, one common reason why many do this. This was a better experience in that the woman took the initiative and so even though she was not exactly the "haha" kind, complied to my needs very well. Paid her what I thought was appropriate with nary a question and she left.
The same night, I was eating at one of the tables, at the German place opposite the now closed "whatever" it was called (that closed place is such an eyesore now). I had pork ribs with "papas salteada". A girl sitting next with a bunch of other women and a German man, continued to smile at me. She was petite and had a sweet dark face but her smile was particularly joyful. After a while, as she gesticulated, I invited her over. She said she was from Haiti, lives in Montellano since she came over about 4 months back. She was actually able to converse in French and so it worked better as my Kreyol is zilch. She shared my food, indeed she ate most of it which worked really well as I was not particularly hungry. I then invited her to the Austrian place, for dessert. I had a cappuccino and a cigar sitting there. I had very low libido at that time and so I told her that unfortunately, I am not going to take her to my place. I paid her 200 pesos as a little compensation for her time.
Food: I enjoyed a sumptuous Schnitzel at the Austrial place the first day. The price is high here. For the 18% taxes as well. The second day, went to an Italian place next to the colmado close to Bar Bologna. The pasta was OK with a seafood sauce but in comparison to what I had in Boca Chica, it was dismal. On Monday, before I left for Santiago by Metro, I had lunch at Elefante Rosso, a dish of spaghetti. Aglio, olio, peperoncino. Again, just about OK, indeed the pasta was not al dente as I had asked for. 330 pesos with a bottle of water and 10% service charge added.
Club: the Usual places. Women out on the street and so forth. I did not have any interest in going to the crowded Classico on Saturday night. Indeed came to sit in front of the colmado, next to Rockys. A Santiaguera (white and long black hair) was sitting outside as well and so I sent her to buy a beer to share. Again, did not have any interest in taking her to hotel but in general, Sosua is what Sosua was during my last trip.
I was in Sosua this past weekend. Saturday and Sunday. Got there from Santiago by Javilla (120 pesos) and then paid 100 pesos for two seats in the carro that leaves from Pto Pta for Sosua. Overall Metro is a better deal hence, in terms of competitive price (210 P) but mostly for comfort.
I wanted to be in Casa Valeria but they had a room free only for one night out of the two. I hence opted for Hotel Don Andres. $45 for a "studio" first floor. Very clean and spacious. The bar was nice and right outside which worked well for breakfast. There was a pool which was quite nice as the sun went down. This was a place that I found frequented only (or mostly) by the Dutch. Friendly crowd. They do check the ID.
I had a woman visit me the evening of Saturday, from Pto Pta. I had already posted a picture of hers under another thread prior to my trip (the green top) in a group of four that I was supposed to meet this trip. Speaking of this conversation of pro and non pro, I find the "non pros" often have to be guided as to what pleases you. It is certainly my experience. The flip side of the coin is that, these lasses are often extremely malleable and willing to do what pleases you.
On Sunday, during the day, I had no plan and so decided to go visit Belkis during the day. Had a massage there and a release. 40 minutes and very comfortable. As I was coming back, and it was around 3 in the afternoon, the sun was merciless, I saw a woman walking by the path where Don Andres is. I had a quick chat, invited her in. She too was from POP, 19 with a child, one common reason why many do this. This was a better experience in that the woman took the initiative and so even though she was not exactly the "haha" kind, complied to my needs very well. Paid her what I thought was appropriate with nary a question and she left.
The same night, I was eating at one of the tables, at the German place opposite the now closed "whatever" it was called (that closed place is such an eyesore now). I had pork ribs with "papas salteada". A girl sitting next with a bunch of other women and a German man, continued to smile at me. She was petite and had a sweet dark face but her smile was particularly joyful. After a while, as she gesticulated, I invited her over. She said she was from Haiti, lives in Montellano since she came over about 4 months back. She was actually able to converse in French and so it worked better as my Kreyol is zilch. She shared my food, indeed she ate most of it which worked really well as I was not particularly hungry. I then invited her to the Austrian place, for dessert. I had a cappuccino and a cigar sitting there. I had very low libido at that time and so I told her that unfortunately, I am not going to take her to my place. I paid her 200 pesos as a little compensation for her time.
Food: I enjoyed a sumptuous Schnitzel at the Austrial place the first day. The price is high here. For the 18% taxes as well. The second day, went to an Italian place next to the colmado close to Bar Bologna. The pasta was OK with a seafood sauce but in comparison to what I had in Boca Chica, it was dismal. On Monday, before I left for Santiago by Metro, I had lunch at Elefante Rosso, a dish of spaghetti. Aglio, olio, peperoncino. Again, just about OK, indeed the pasta was not al dente as I had asked for. 330 pesos with a bottle of water and 10% service charge added.
Club: the Usual places. Women out on the street and so forth. I did not have any interest in going to the crowded Classico on Saturday night. Indeed came to sit in front of the colmado, next to Rockys. A Santiaguera (white and long black hair) was sitting outside as well and so I sent her to buy a beer to share. Again, did not have any interest in taking her to hotel but in general, Sosua is what Sosua was during my last trip.Thank for the report.
We will assume you had a good time?
But what's with all the restaurant revues?, we are interested in the women We have high libidos, LOL.
Joking aside, I've done what you did, often. Used to book Valeria, and Arien and his nosy wife would often be overbooked and send me up to Don Andres for a night. Looks like he still has that relationship.
Don Andres is very quiet during the day, but you might get a regular walking by if she sees you at the bar.
That's where I was my very first afternoon in Sosua, when I went with a tall chica who offered all for 500 peso. What did I know?
I didn't notice that she was a "he" until we got into the Cali, and I begged off. I took off and went back to Don Andres bar and they were all laughing!
I still remained friends with the he / she because she was fun, polite and non threatening. Until she met a very bad end in Sosua a couple years ago.
Tempoecorto
10-15-15, 23:32
Thank for the report.
We will assume you had a good time?
But what's with all the restaurant revues?, we are interested in the women We have high libidos, LOL.
Joking aside, I've done what you did, often. Used to book Valeria, and Arien and his nosy wife would often be overbooked and send me up to Don Andres for a night. Looks like he still has that relationship.
I chose Don Andres of my own accord, I. E. , Casa Valeria did not direct me there, even though both are Dutch owned. I never tried the place and I like quiet places, BUT, but I do not like places where they check cedula, it is offensive to my sensitivity.
LOL. Low libido Indeed: I went for the massage and almost back to back, into my room with the walker. So, no, did not feel like "coucher de nouveau" with the Haitian girl who had such a beautiful glow on her smiling face. This is my biggest problem. It is feast there and famine here.
How can anyone not like Sosua? I came from Santiago and the sea has its soporific effect on me. All women are approachable, so no homework necessary. You can walk everywhere even though the heat was killing and suddenly, hamburger / fries are not the only food options. I am not a fan of Bacchus but there are cigars which go well after a nice cappuccino. Sosua. It is a hedonist's dream!
Parkinsons
10-16-15, 02:46
I had already posted a picture of hers under another thread prior to my trip (the green top) in a group of four that I was supposed to meet this trip. I was going to vote for the green top as my fav out of the 4. Good catch.
I enjoyed a sumptuous Schnitzel at the Austrial place the first day. The price is high here. For the 18% taxes as well. The second day, went to an Italian place next to the colmado close to Bar Bologna. The pasta was OK with a seafood sauce but in comparison to what I had in Boca Chica, it was dismal. On Monday, before I left for Santiago by Metro, I had lunch at Elefante Rosso, a dish of spaghetti. Aglio, olio, peperoncino. Again, just about OK, indeed the pasta was not al dente as I had asked for. 330 pesos with a bottle of water and 10% service charge added.
I think you're telling us that Sosua is not what it was. The SD chefs have squeezed out the local cooks and now they're just all in for the hustle. That's why it's important to interview and vet them before you eat. The lesson here also is you need a wingman. If the pasta is overcooked, get your wingman to come running into the restaurant to create a diversion, like screaming that your hotel is on fire. Then you can just bounce. You'll learn from your rookie mistake.
To make a long story short the girl gave me the best sex this year so far, stayed till the morning and walked to the bus station with me for my exit. Here is a girl I've ditched twice before, proving to be that hidden gem I was always looking for, only in Sosua does it happen like that.This what happens when you catch a sleeper.
Tempoecorto
10-16-15, 18:34
I think you're telling us that Sosua is not what it was. The SD chefs have squeezed out the local cooks and now they're just all in for the hustle. That was a great use of allegory. It would not come to me, the rookie!
What's not to like about the place? I suddenly discover I am on an island, what with the seaview. I can walk anywhere. All women are approachable and so no homework and finally, the food is way better and genuine. Sosua, is a hedonist's dream!
Can someone tell me about Casa Valeria? Is it chica friendly, clean etc.
Thanks
Can someone tell me about Casa Valeria? Is it chica friendly, clean etc.
ThanksTempocorto was there last, so he's your best bet.
Normally it is very quiet, and clean. One chica at a time only, and you must escort them in and out. 8 or 9 units and a small pool. Handy to the action.
But I'm on their mailing list and it looks like there's some major work being done right now to renovate and/or expand.
Grandnash84
10-18-15, 20:45
Can someone tell me about Casa Valeria? Is it chica friendly, clean etc.
ThanksAny hotel on that street or in the vicinity is going to be chica friendly otherwise they would survive.
Tempoecorto
10-19-15, 03:19
Can someone tell me about Casa Valeria? Is it chica friendly, clean etc.
ThanksLike someone said, all hotels there (I have not been to all though) need to be chica friendly, plain and simple. I understand though, reading the posts here that Terra Linda is not but I might be wrong. Now if you mean whether they check "cedula" by the word "chica friendly", I guess the answers might vary from place to place.
Casa Valeria is a first class hotel, clean, tastefully decorated, warm and very comfortable. Its location could not be better and yet it is very discreet and quiet which is something I enjoy as I travel solo. They also have a great restaurant. The management is Dutch.
Charles Pooter
10-19-15, 14:25
Casa Valeria is ... warm I should think worrying about whether a hotel is "warm" would be the last of anyone's worries in the DR.
Like someone said, all hotels there (I have not been to all though) need to be chica friendly, plain and simple. I understand though, reading the posts here that Terra Linda is not but I might be wrong. Now if you mean whether they check "cedula" by the word "chica friendly", I guess the answers might vary from place to place.
Casa Valeria is a first class hotel, clean, tastefully decorated, warm and very comfortable. Its location could not be better and yet it is very discreet and quiet which is something I enjoy as I travel solo. They also have a great restaurant. The management is Dutch.It sounds like it has improved a fair bit since I stayed there several years ago if it is now first class. Problems back then included mosquitoes in the rooms, constant plumbing problems, absence of air conditioning, weak fans, dim lighting in the room, uncomfortable beds. On the other hand the food was excellent and the pool was nice. At that time I think you were restricted to once chica per day, so not totally monger friendly. And I think the TV was an extra that had to be installed manually if a guest wanted one. Still I also remember having a threesome there, so I guess the rules could be bent.
It sounds like it has improved a fair bit since I stayed there several years ago if it is now first class. Problems back then included mosquitoes in the rooms, constant plumbing problems, absence of air conditioning, weak fans, dim lighting in the room, uncomfortable beds. On the other hand the food was excellent and the pool was nice. At that time I think you were restricted to once chica per day, so not totally monger friendly. And I think the TV was an extra that had to be installed manually if a guest wanted one. Still I also remember having a threesome there, so I guess the rules could be bent.That must have been a long time ago, because I didn't experience any of that. (The negative stuff) I will say that the guests are a mixed bag of mongers and civilians. You can bring in multiple guests throughout the day, no problem, but you probably would want to practice a little discretion. Like others have said, it's a quieter place to stay in all the craziness of Sosua.
Terra Linda is chica friendly. They check ID sure, but I've never had a problem bringing a girl there unless something changed significantly in the last year.
Like someone said, all hotels there (I have not been to all though) need to be chica friendly, plain and simple. I understand though, reading the posts here that Terra Linda is not but I might be wrong. Now if you mean whether they check "cedula" by the word "chica friendly", I guess the answers might vary from place to place.
Casa Valeria is a first class hotel, clean, tastefully decorated, warm and very comfortable. Its location could not be better and yet it is very discreet and quiet which is something I enjoy as I travel solo. They also have a great restaurant. The management is Dutch.
Tempocorto was there last, so he's your best bet.
Normally it is very quiet, and clean. One chica at a time only, and you must escort them in and out. 8 or 9 units and a small pool. Handy to the action.
But I'm on their mailing list and it looks like there's some major work being done right now to renovate and/or expand.Thanks for the info Victorian house rooms going for 71 for Super Bowl weekend so I guess I'll stay at Casa Valeria.
Tempoecorto
10-21-15, 03:06
It sounds like it has improved a fair bit since I stayed there several years ago if it is now first class. I cannot tell you what it was but ever since I visited the place first (Sept 2011), I found the place excellent. Since then I have been there for single as well as double occupancy. The bed is large and comfy. The bath is very modern with nice faucets and water pressure. The mini bar is well stacked. The lights, for some reason have a warm glow which I find particularly nice. The Aircon works great (they also have a fan) and finally, TV is there even though I never needed to watch it. Regarding women, I did not see any issue. Indeed, the very first time I went, they had a young Englishman as the Manager and he knocked on my door and told me "there is someone outside for you". The rooms around the pool are nice. There are chairs outside where you can lounge overlooking the pool, especially at night and it is very quiet. Needless to say, it is situated at a fantastic location so one can walk everywhere.
Charles Pooter
10-21-15, 14:36
I meant "somewhere near POP Airport". So wherever good and easy action is available. Reading through this forum, it looks like Sosua is the place in that area.
Best place for a first trip. But in the future, as you are an experienced monger speaking fluent Spanish, all of the DR is open to you and you may do better away from the tourist areas where chicas tend to be more hardcore and pricier.
Aim is to get "revolving door" chicas, lets say a new one each night.
LOL. By "revolving door" chicas I meant one every two hours. Some of the non-monger hotels would frown on that.
Do any of the resort hotels allow "revolving door" chicas? Meaning they ignore who the customers bring over with them to their rooms.If you use one of the monger hotels in Sosua you can have as many chicas as you like.
Or does anyone rent decent apartment / condo for the week in that area?Yes, there are several options. The Palms is a decent place that is doing several special offers at present. Downside is it is a walk or moto ride from the action, but some guys prefer that. Mary Rose is nearer the town center.
I am planning to stay there for about a week over the thanks giving weekend.Not the best time to come. Lots of groups arrive so less choice of accommodation and chicas prices rise accordingly. But maybe your work schedule only allows then?
This will be my first trip to DR. I speak Spanish fluently. I plan to fly into Santiago from Miami and from there to POP area. What are the safe options to get from Santiago airport to POP area?Taxi around US $80 (guys please chip in with your prices!) or taxi + bus (around US $20?) Lots of info here. Read the board.
I checked the website of Blackbeard and will keep it as a last option. I generally prefer to go to strip clubs and pick up or setup chicas from there or through some local guys. That way it will be less expensive than Blackbeard and probably more options.
Are there any "strip club" type joints available in that area? Where you can buy lap dances or private dance or invite chicas for drink and talk? Or some other similar setup? Idea is to invite chicas for drink and conversation and make a deal, if you like them. Prefer a place where you can get to pick and choose from many diff chicas, after talking over with them. Also, are the mongering areas in Sosua within walking distance of each other? Or are they far apart to have to take cabs to go from one to the other?Blackbeards is great for beginners, but with your experience and fluent Spanish you do not need your hand held.
Sosua is a small town. Everywhere is within walking distance or, if you are not a good walker, a short moto ride (US $1). No need to take cabs unless late at night if you are staying outside the town center and are nervous about riding motos.
There is not the strip club / lap dance model in Sosua. You pick up girls at bars, clubs, dance-halls, the beach or on the street.
Most of the hotels in Sosua are chica friendly. Depending on the hotel they will generally take the girl's Cedulla (Govt. ID) and return it when you walk her back out. If they have any rooms available, Casa Cayena is a good choice. The price is a bit higher than some others but it includes breakfast and dinner. Decent food, nice rooms and excellent staff.
If you need a kitchen, Hotel Plaza Europa is excellent. $40 per night with a small, equipped kitchen. It's a bit farther from the action, maybe a 10 minute walk at most. Nice pool, all rooms with balconies overlooking the pool, and money exchange service at the hotel desk.
Sosua is about the size of the main strip in Tijuana, if you've spent any time there. Most of the action is found in the area around the intersection of Dr. Rosen and Pedro Clisante although you can find women and bars the length of Pedro Clisante.
During the day, pick a bar in the area where you can sit close to the street (most bars and restaurants are open design). The girls who are available will let you know. Early in the night, find a seat in Rumbas and take your pick. Late night, try Merengue / Classicos. Rumbas seems to run about 15 to 20 women to men. You should be able to find one. You'll probably end up paying about 2000 pesos for an hour or two, 4000 and up for TLN.
Don't write off Blackbeard's completely. As an experienced, Spanish speaking monger, you don't need to go there, but if you prefer the strip club environment, it's a reasonable substitute. Between the room and food prices, it is expensive, but the chica prices are very reasonable 1800 pesos for ST, 3300 for TLN, 500 for a trip to the jacuzzi. Just walk from your room to the pool, order a beer and pick and choose. The girls like to work in tandem in the jacuzzi, not a bad way to spend an hour for 1000 pesos.
Charles Pooter
10-21-15, 16:53
You'll probably end up paying about 2000 pesos for an hour or two, 4000 and up for TLN.
Yes, these will be the prices during Thanksgiving, but other weeks you should not need to pay these prices.
Best thing is to collect numbers of chicas you like and arrange to meet during the day. This will be "bonus" income for them and they will be less hurried and cheaper.
Sosua is deadly quiet during the day. If the weather is good you can pass a few hours at a bar on the beach path chatting to other mongers and looking at the chicas. Or you can visit nearby towns, Puerto Plata and Cabarete, by public shared taxi for around a dollar each way (or two dollars if you buy adjoining seats for more comfort).
El Tiburon
10-25-15, 02:04
I read through some of the posts in this forum and the good reports. Very useful information. Thanks to all the veterans of the area.
I tried my hand at cupid site as some member suggested to do before landing here. As expected, I was contacted by many members. Some of them proved to be pros and were pretty straight about it on whatsapp. But many of them said they were looking for "serio" or "seria" relation.
On further inquiry, for most of them, seria means some kind of maintenance package. They are looking for a steady relationship in which you visit them a few times a year and then send them some money on a monthly basis. Upon asking how much their monthly expectation was, all chicas denied revealing any figure up front. They responded by saying let us meet here and we will discuss. I am curious to know what the deal is with maintenance packages? What is the usual money amount chicas in DR expect in a such an arrangement? What other expectations do they usually have apart from money? Although, I have no intention of becoming a "western union daddy"; it will be interesting to know other members' experiences in this matter for the benefit of all members at large. Please share your good or bad experiences, in this regard.
Thanks again Charles and JjBee62 for your valuable responses. Appreciate it.
There are best practices but every one has to do what is comfortable for them. Some guys go to place like oxygen and spend a grand a day for what they think are high class hookers. If you find someone you like on cupid what you do is your business. My Cupid girls have been great. I treat them like princesses and they treat me like a king. You call your shots on cash or gifts. Most prefer the illusion of not being putas. You buy a few gifts they want and give some cash when you leave. Used phones and perfumes seal the deals. They know you are bringing treasure and they can not wait to see you. WIN WIN.
I read through some of the posts in this forum and the good reports. Very useful information. Thanks to all the veterans of the area.
I tried my hand at cupid site as some member suggested to do before landing here. As expected, I was contacted by many members. Some of them proved to be pros and were pretty straight about it on whatsapp. But many of them said they were looking for "serio" or "seria" relation.
On further inquiry, for most of them, seria means some kind of maintenance package. They are looking for a steady relationship in which you visit them a few times a year and then send them some money on a monthly basis. Upon asking how much their monthly expectation was, all chicas denied revealing any figure up front. They responded by saying let us meet here and we will discuss. I am curious to know what the deal is with maintenance packages? What is the usual money amount chicas in DR expect in a such an arrangement? What other expectations do they usually have apart from money? Although, I have no intention of becoming a "western union daddy"; it will be interesting to know other members' experiences in this matter for the benefit of all members at large. Please share your good or bad experiences, in this regard.
Thanks again Charles and JjBee62 for your valuable responses. Appreciate it.
Good day,
I have been following a post on another board (DR1) that is reporting that Rancho Tipico was closed down by the authorities the other night? This allegedly happened due to the presence of women under the correct age being on the premises?
There is no solid conclusion as to why it was closed, and it is not clear when or if it will be reopening. I have spent a lot of enjoyable evenings there over the past couple of years and will be returning to Sousa soon for another winter of relaxing. It was always a enjoyable place to hang out and enjoy the atmosphere.
I wonder if someone who is in town now and is familiar with Rancho Tipico could provide any follow up or thoughts on what has happened?
On the DR1 board there is speculation that Ad (the owner / manager may be the latest victim of the drive to 'clean up' Sosua and rid it of foreign operated businesses benifiting on sex tourism.
If this sort of pressure on the expat bars and restaurants continues it can only have negative results for the little town we love.
Cheers, all the best.
Good day,
I have been following a post on another board (DR1) that is reporting that Rancho Tipico was closed down by the authorities the other night? This allegedly happened due to the presence of women under the correct age being on the premises?
There is no solid conclusion as to why it was closed, and it is not clear when or if it will be reopening. I have spent a lot of enjoyable evenings there over the past couple of years and will be returning to Sousa soon for another winter of relaxing. It was always a enjoyable place to hang out and enjoy the atmosphere.
I wonder if someone who is in town now and is familiar with Rancho Tipico could provide any follow up or thoughts on what has happened?
On the DR1 board there is speculation that Ad (the owner / manager may be the latest victim of the drive to 'clean up' Sosua and rid it of foreign operated businesses benifiting on sex tourism.
If this sort of pressure on the expat bars and restaurants continues it can only have negative results for the little town we love.
Cheers, all the best.I was talking to WRX and Brother P about this closure two days ago and nobody knows the specifics. They were one of the few places in Sosua that employed Haitian girls so some have speculated about this. The rumor is [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) girls but I think the Dominicans probably have their hands out again. The girl I had my last day in Sosua used to work there but things turned sour.
Personally I liked the girls working there but I always had an uncomfortable feeling from the guys working there that I wasn't wanted, so I stopped going.
Good day,
I have been following a post on another board (DR1) that is reporting that Rancho Tipico was closed down by the authorities the other night? This allegedly happened due to the presence of women under the correct age being on the premises?
There is no solid conclusion as to why it was closed, and it is not clear when or if it will be reopening. I have spent a lot of enjoyable evenings there over the past couple of years and will be returning to Sousa soon for another winter of relaxing. It was always a enjoyable place to hang out and enjoy the atmosphere.
I wonder if someone who is in town now and is familiar with Rancho Tipico could provide any follow up or thoughts on what has happened?
On the DR1 board there is speculation that Ad (the owner / manager may be the latest victim of the drive to 'clean up' Sosua and rid it of foreign operated businesses benifiting on sex tourism.
If this sort of pressure on the expat bars and restaurants continues it can only have negative results for the little town we love.
Cheers, all the best.Locals on the ground have been making this prediction since March. He lasted much longer then most thought. Not a surprise!
Sosua is alive and well.
A few changes here and there haven't affected the core business, which is sex for sale.
You can speculate on the changes, but should be wary of trying to figure out "what it all means". It's been my take for years that the locals will take over or muscle in on any successful ex pat business eventually. It's modus operandi for the third world.
Last week the cops were on the street early in the evening rounding up not only Haitians but Dominicana putas also. A pick up truck was filled up twice with hard core putas, but it was as if they were just trying to clean up the streets for the evening strollers, because after that the cops never showed up again and the streets filled up again later with more putas than ever.
Moto and scooter drivers aren't wearing helmets anymore, so the enforcement effort there has been forgotten, the same with the old rule of no solo chicas wandering through bars. Most bars are back to being open to the street, so that's a plus for me.
Slow on Monday and Tuesday, but picks up nicely on Wednesday heading into the weekend. The chicas seem to operate in pairs, and in half an hour at the bar, or across from Rhumba, you can find plenty of action of your choice. The ones holding hands are the best bet for a Happy Hour. I'm an early bird, so I never did check out the late action around Classico, but there were enough 7's and 8's to keep anyone busy.
The local touts were a little more aggressive this time and gave the newbies a hard time. I try to tell 'em, don't ever let a hustler do you a favor, or he'll stalk you all week.
The main corner continues to entertain with a screaming chica on the street and a death defying drunk lying down in the intersection as cars see and avoid him at the last minute. The crowd were going to leave him there to die, but we eventually dragged him back to the sidewalk. A local was shot by the cops around the corner on Dr Rosen.
For you guys who remember the "Happy Bar" on the corner, where you could practice your Bachata, the bar across from Baileys has music and impromptu dancing. The bartender chicas are a little cool at first but soon get in the spirit of things if you start it up.
Lots of rain last week and some serious surf kept the beach around my hotel closed all week. At night the surf was so strong you could feel the ground shake, and the "boom" rattled the sliding windows.
I was looking around for a high end condo for a buddy and me later on this year, and I was amazed to find a brand new exclusive development between Infiniti Blu and the Victoria House, called Gansvoort, with prices of $895 USA Per night. Now, where the fuck is the market in Sosua for that sort of thing? But it is obviously there.
Needless to say we passed on that.
There is major construction going on at Casa Valeria so be aware. Don't take moto concho thru Puerto Plata traffic, especially if you're 3 up and holding on to shopping bags. Six Flags has nothing on that ride.
My regular had an Orange Hub, so we had WiFi Internet everywhere we went, which was great. Around 1300 peso / mes she tells me.
Had a great time and as usual can't wait to get back there.
Charles Pooter
10-30-15, 22:58
At night the surf was so strong you could feel the ground shake, and the "boom" rattled the sliding windows.Oakie, you are a poet!
Don't take moto concho thru Puerto Plata traffic, especially if you're 3 up and holding on to shopping bags. Six Flags has nothing on that ride.A poetic pussy.
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Nice little report.
Not having a great time is Sosua is hard to pull off but some people do. It has everything you want right at hand. I can tell you know whast you want and where to get it.
Sosua is alive and well.
A few changes here and there haven't affected the core business, which is sex for sale.
You can speculate on the changes, but should be wary of trying to figure out "what it all means". It's been my take for years that the locals will take over or muscle in on any successful ex pat business eventually. It's modus operandi for the third world.
Last week the cops were on the street early in the evening rounding up not only Haitians but Dominicana putas also. A pick up truck was filled up twice with hard core putas, but it was as if they were just trying to clean up the streets for the evening strollers, because after that the cops never showed up again and the streets filled up again later with more putas than ever.
Moto and scooter drivers aren't wearing helmets anymore, so the enforcement effort there has been forgotten, the same with the old rule of no solo chicas wandering through bars. Most bars are back to being open to the street, so that's a plus for me.
Slow on Monday and Tuesday, but picks up nicely on Wednesday heading into the weekend. The chicas seem to operate in pairs, and in half an hour at the bar, or across from Rhumba, you can find plenty of action of your choice. The ones holding hands are the best bet for a Happy Hour. I'm an early bird, so I never did check out the late action around Classico, but there were enough 7's and 8's to keep anyone busy.
The local touts were a little more aggressive this time and gave the newbies a hard time. I try to tell 'em, don't ever let a hustler do you a favor, or he'll stalk you all week.
The main corner continues to entertain with a screaming chica on the street and a death defying drunk lying down in the intersection as cars see and avoid him at the last minute. The crowd were going to leave him there to die, but we eventually dragged him back to the sidewalk. A local was shot by the cops around the corner on Dr Rosen.
For you guys who remember the "Happy Bar" on the corner, where you could practice your Bachata, the bar across from Baileys has music and impromptu dancing. The bartender chicas are a little cool at first but soon get in the spirit of things if you start it up.
Lots of rain last week and some serious surf kept the beach around my hotel closed all week. At night the surf was so strong you could feel the ground shake, and the "boom" rattled the sliding windows.
I was looking around for a high end condo for a buddy and me later on this year, and I was amazed to find a brand new exclusive development between Infiniti Blu and the Victoria House, called Gansvoort, with prices of $895 USA Per night. Now, where the fuck is the market in Sosua for that sort of thing? But it is obviously there.
Needless to say we passed on that.
There is major construction going on at Casa Valeria so be aware. Don't take moto concho thru Puerto Plata traffic, especially if you're 3 up and holding on to shopping bags. Six Flags has nothing on that ride.
My regular had an Orange Hub, so we had WiFi Internet everywhere we went, which was great. Around 1300 peso / mes she tells me.
Had a great time and as usual can't wait to get back there.
I'm in Sosua and love seeing all the pretty girl's. But I usually like being the pursuer, suddenly I'm the prey. A bit overwhelming for this old timer. I'm heading East tomorrow to find more laid back environment. If I were here for one week or so, it would be great to have pretty babes constantly hitting on me. I've talked to several people about getting a motorcycle, all tell me it is too dangerous. May rethink that. I'm too old for broken bones. Anyone been to Monte Cristi?
Charles Pooter
10-31-15, 15:49
I'm heading East tomorrow to find more laid back environment ... Anyone been to Monte Cristi?? Monte Cristi is to the west (and it is a shithole like most other Dominican small towns).
Tempoecorto
10-31-15, 17:46
? Monte Cristi is to the west (and it is a shithole like most other Dominican small towns).Shit hole? I beg your pardon. I have been there a couple of times (last time coming from Loma de Cabrera, which would more like be a fitting one for your expression) and it sure is a quiet town and not much happens (for an outsider) unless you have a hook up (which I did). But the beach area was nice, not to speak of the view of the cliff, whatever it is called. The hotel in the center of town, Chic, if I recall, was quite nice and then there are hotels around the water, which were rather pricey but some with palm fronds etc, made it look exotic. Sure it is not Sosua with women seeking business or like Puerto Plata with fancy hotels.
Most of the hotels in Sosua are chica friendly. Depending on the hotel they will generally take the girl's Cedulla (Govt. ID) and return it when you walk her back out. If they have any rooms available, Casa Cayena is a good choice. The price is a bit higher than some others but it includes breakfast and dinner. Decent food, nice rooms and excellent staff.
If you need a kitchen, Hotel Plaza Europa is excellent. $40 per night with a small, equipped kitchen. It's a bit farther from the action, maybe a 10 minute walk at most. Nice pool, all rooms with balconies overlooking the pool, and money exchange service at the hotel desk.
Sosua is about the size of the main strip in Tijuana, if you've spent any time there. Most of the action is found in the area around the intersection of Dr. Rosen and Pedro Clisante although you can find women and bars the length of Pedro Clisante.
During the day, pick a bar in the area where you can sit close to the street (most bars and restaurants are open design). The girls who are available will let you know. Early in the night, find a seat in Rumbas and take your pick. Late night, try Merengue / Classicos. Rumbas seems to run about 15 to 20 women to men. You should be able to find one. You'll probably end up paying about 2000 pesos for an hour or two, 4000 and up for TLN.
Don't write off Blackbeard's completely. As an experienced, Spanish speaking monger, you don't need to go there, but if you prefer the strip club environment, it's a reasonable substitute. Between the room and food prices, it is expensive, but the chica prices are very reasonable 1800 pesos for ST, 3300 for TLN, 500 for a trip to the jacuzzi. Just walk from your room to the pool, order a beer and pick and choose. The girls like to work in tandem in the jacuzzi, not a bad way to spend an hour for 1000 pesos.Casa Cayena is good. Last time I was there it was $65 a night including set breakfast and Dinner for one. Suited me fine. Did pay for the breakfast for the girl. I am toda la noche type. After that I ate dinner by myself which was good and filling. After dinner starts hunting. Only problem is not enough towels. Do not know why hotels skimp on towels knowing mongers like us take lots of showers.
Hotel Europa used to be good but need improvement. I heard they have re modeled something not sure what.
Checked other hotels and after they showed the rooms did not like it.
Chica prices are not fixed. I have generally paid 2500 LT. I like to take them to eat if they are hungry (most are not) dancing, casino. Usually after one shot in the room. I always rent a car, sp transportation is not an issue. If the girl is from outside visiting Sosua they love to spend lots of time with you. Beware of some prima donnas who can be tough to negotiate. One offered me 3000 for half hour.
Blackbeards is not my thing knowing it is essentially a brothel with fixed prices and resident girls. It is more fun playing the game with girls. Money does not matter if the girl gives good service and good companionship but at the same time why not play your game as buyer.
Good day,
I have been following a post on another board (DR1) that is reporting that Rancho Tipico was closed down by the authorities the other night? This allegedly happened due to the presence of women under the correct age being on the premises?
There is no solid conclusion as to why it was closed, and it is not clear when or if it will be reopening. I have spent a lot of enjoyable evenings there over the past couple of years and will be returning to Sousa soon for another winter of relaxing. It was always a enjoyable place to hang out and enjoy the atmosphere.
I wonder if someone who is in town now and is familiar with Rancho Tipico could provide any follow up or thoughts on what has happened?
On the DR1 board there is speculation that Ad (the owner / manager may be the latest victim of the drive to 'clean up' Sosua and rid it of foreign operated businesses benifiting on sex tourism.
If this sort of pressure on the expat bars and restaurants continues it can only have negative results for the little town we love.
Cheers, all the best.You can only be a Dick to people for a time in life then the time runs out.
Everyone has a cell phone now and we keep putting more and more important content on it. Word to the wise if you don't have a password protected screen create one and if you do have a password protected screen protect your password and change it after a few days. These people a very slick at getting your password they use there friends and family to help them obtain yours.
Manizales911
11-01-15, 14:48
Good day,
I have been following a post on another board (DR1) that is reporting that Rancho Tipico was closed down by the authorities the other night? This allegedly happened due to the presence of women under the correct age being on the premises?
There is no solid conclusion as to why it was closed, and it is not clear when or if it will be reopening. I have spent a lot of enjoyable evenings there over the past couple of years and will be returning to Sousa soon for another winter of relaxing. It was always a enjoyable place to hang out and enjoy the atmosphere.
I wonder if someone who is in town now and is familiar with Rancho Tipico could provide any follow up or thoughts on what has happened?
On the DR1 board there is speculation that Ad (the owner / manager may be the latest victim of the drive to 'clean up' Sosua and rid it of foreign operated businesses benifiting on sex tourism.
If this sort of pressure on the expat bars and restaurants continues it can only have negative results for the little town we love.
Cheers, all the best.As of yesterday they are still closed. Plenty of speculation as to why they shut him down.
Parkinsons
11-01-15, 15:14
Anyone been to Monte Cristi?I think Charles and Tempoecorto are both right. It's worth perhaps a day trip or an overnight stay max. The road there going northwest from Santiago is flat and has very little traffic, good for riding your motorcycle. The hotel on the water is marinadelmarhotel.com.
I took this pic of the cliff, El Morro, last December.
Everyone has a cell phone now and we keep putting more and more important content on it. Word to the wise if you don't have a password protected screen create one and if you do have a password protected screen protect your password and change it after a few days. These people a very slick at getting your password they use there friends and family to help them obtain yours.Obviously there is a very interesting backstory behind this that we are not privy to, regarding how and perhaps more importantly why the cell phone password was cracked and what happened next.
Grandnash84
11-01-15, 20:18
Obviously there is a very interesting backstory behind this that we are not privy to, regarding how and perhaps more importantly why the cell phone password was cracked and what happened next.Yeah he got his ass busted LOL you need the iphone with the fingerprint unlock LOL.
I'm in Sosua and love seeing all the pretty girl's. But I usually like being the pursuer, suddenly I'm the prey. A bit overwhelming for this old timer. I'm heading East tomorrow to find more laid back environment. If I were here for one week or so, it would be great to have pretty babes constantly hitting on me. I've talked to several people about getting a motorcycle, all tell me it is too dangerous. May rethink that. I'm too old for broken bones. Anyone been to Monte Cristi?In my last report I mentioned what I thought was the increased aggressiveness of the local touts, and the reason I did so, was a couple things.
A guy came over to me at the bar and asked me how to get rid of them. He had noticed that they never bothered me. As he was saying that, the liitle old smiling lady in the orange dress making her rounds, came up and gave me a hug, then immediately left, sans peso.
I had watched him at the entrance to the bar go from friendly, fist bumps, answering the 'death question', "Where're you from?" to downright hostility, "Get outa my face!
He hadn't figured it out yet, and it wasn't a pleasant experience.
Obviously the question and the fist bumps (It could even be something on your T shirt, or your sports cap, 'Go Royals") is the opening they are looking for.
I'm sure the vets here can give you some advice, so they don't drive you out of Sosua.
It would take too long to explain how I personally handle it, anyway, and I could get into another flame war, so I'll leave it to the "best practice" guys.
(pm me if you need more).
Charles Pooter
11-03-15, 00:47
They no longer bother me. I just look "through" them with no change of expression and a cold shiver runs down their spine. As Oakie says, do not give them an opening. And, of course, I do not dress like a tourist.
They make me laugh sometimes. There is a Haitian selling pictures along the Malecon in Puerto Plata. He first approached me some nine years ago when I naively asked him about prices. I bought nothing then and he must have approached me two hundred times since with the same result but never misses a chance to try.
One who pisses me off is the guy selling cigars on Cabarete beach. I explained I do not smoke. He apologized for bothering me and we parted amicably. Fuck me, twenty minutes later he is back. If I have not smoked for the last 75 years I am not likely to have changed my mind within the last twenty minutes. Same thing on my two subsequent visits there.
Another one I do not like is the cripple (about 40?) who works the strip in Sosua and the Malecon in Pto Pta. He covers a lot of ground for a cripple. He is always surly and aggressive. I cannot see how that is a good strategy.
Tempoecorto
11-03-15, 01:30
They no longer bother me. I just look "through" them with no change of expression and a cold shiver runs down their spine. As suggested by Oakie, I too might have to PM you for your trade secret on "cold shivers". He he!
This conversation is kind of moot: not only am I kinda invisible in Sosua rarely facing this dilemma but also, the same almost anywhere, and that is a long list, in the world I have been to, while my black and white brethren were being "harassed". Thankfully, my skin color equates me with no money -another reason why I can visit places, that others are often fearful to tread. I also continue to travel with my wallet in the back pocket and not always have use for a locker. I have to say though, Boca Chica was an exception, perhaps my shorts or perhaps they have a carpet bombing strategy in that town.
Member #4398
11-03-15, 04:25
They no longer bother me. I just look "through" them with no change of expression and a cold shiver runs down their spine. As Oakie says, do not give them an opening. And, of course, I do not dress like a tourist.Very good approach for dealing with the annoying touts. I agree that the best way to deal with them is to ignore them. Don't try or let them befriend you too much. If you do, you will pay the consequences. They don't want to be your friend, they want your dollars just like the putas. In other words, they are putas too without the sexual feminine appeal. If you allow them in they will try to get you some way or another. They will even stalk you once they find where you staying and be waiting for you and looking for you everywhere, never wanting you to leave you alone and they will be asking for more money than the putas. So best way is to just ignore them.
Member #4398
11-03-15, 23:10
Any recent reviews on Perla De Sosua Hotel https://www.facebook.com/PerlaDeSosua/ at la propiedad # 7 (Located behind Popular Bank) -near the streets of Alejo Martinez and Durate, Sosúa, RD. Phone:(702) 258-7376. Is this hotel chica friendly? How is this hotel, safety, the staff, cleanliness, and how are the beds? Is it walking distance to the beach and the action at Pedro Clisante? Do you need to take a taxi or motoconcho to bring a chica from a Pedro Clisante bar or is it close enough to the action to walk there and take a girl waking? Is this hotel a good base to stay in Sosua? I appreciate any response. Cerebro.
Relax.
The very thing that turns putas on to you, is also the very thing that attracts the male hustlers.
If you can't deal with the male shit, you going to be hard pressed to deal satisfactorily with the putas!
Unless like me, your chica really loves you, and tells you every day :)
No really, she does!
In the Hoy newspaper on October 26 appeared an extensive report on the visit of President Danilo Medina to Sosúa. It was especially the remarkable speech by Andrés Pastoriza, the president of ADSSosúa, which attracted the attention. He asked the President to help fight prostitution in Puerto Plata, Sosúa and Cabarete. According to Andrés Pastoriza an intervention from the government is urgently required to bring a solution for the growing problem caused by prostitution.
El Tiburon
11-04-15, 04:42
Are hotels Bellamar Resort and Victorian House chica friendly?
They seem to have a nice view of the sea.
Grandnash84
11-04-15, 06:15
Are hotels Bellamar Resort and Victorian House chica friendly?
They seem to have a nice view of the sea.No they are not.
Wednesday, November 4, 2015.
PP prosecutors requested detention couple against US citizen murdered and dismembered.
Attorney Attorney PUERTO PLATA Puerto Plata today before Judge deposited by the Office of Permanent Attention of this jurisdiction, the application of coercive measures against citizens Frank Sorichette and / or Carleone Frankie and Mary Geraldine De La Rosa Batista, whom they are accused of being associated to kill and rob their property Renault Mr. Brent Lewis, dated November 3, 2014.
It was reported that during the investigations carried out by the Public Ministry and the National Police determined that the defendants planned to take the life of the victim and then fraudulently take possession of their properties.
The criminal plot was organized by Frank Sorichette and / or Frankie Carleone and Mary Geraldine De La Rosa Batista, who murdered and then dismembered his body, using an electric saw and a sharp ax, Mr. Brent Renault Lewis inside a villa property, located in the residential Loma Sosua Mironas the municipality of this province.
After mutilate, defendants divided into plastic bags each body part and proceeded to board the vehicle Dodge brand, model Caravan, white color, property of the deceased, to water it in various locations expressed the instance.
After several months of research, as of May 15 this year, the researchers tracked part of the deceased body, near Loma Minced, Espaillat province, preceding the National Institute of Forensic Sciences (INACIF) to perform the corresponding DNA, which found that the limbs found are consistent with the DNA of the children of Mr. Lewis, which shows the death of the same.
"The prosecution is putting every effort to clarify this fact and therefore achieve ejemplarizadora sentence, which will serve to alleviate the pain of the families and to send the message that heinous and planned events like this will have to deal with investigative bodies State "said Osvaldo Bonilla Hiraldo, District Attorney Holder.
In the coming hours the hearing where the prosecution will request custody as a measure of coercion, for violation of Articles 265,266, 295 and 296 of the Dominican Penal Code criminalizing conspiracy and murder is known.
It is recalled that both defendants keep custody by the fact related to the falsification of documents by which they sought to appropriate the assets of the deceased.
Digi Man65
11-05-15, 12:05
No they are not.Sorry. The Victorian House is. Your guests just have to surrender their ID with security while staying with you.
Any info on the Hispaniola Condos in Sosua?
TIA.
Grandnash84
11-05-15, 20:41
Sorry. The Victorian House is. Your guests just have to surrender their ID with security while staying with you.Surprised your the only one who thought I was serious. The guy that asked is a newbie who could have found out the answer to his question in less than 5 min of searching the dr forum. If you don't rtff youll get no answer or answers like this.
Any recent reviews on Perla De Sosua Hotel https://www.facebook.com/PerlaDeSosua/ at la propiedad # 7 (Located behind Popular Bank) -near the streets of Alejo Martinez and Durate, Sosa, RD. Phone:(702) 258-7376. Is this hotel chica friendly? How is this hotel, safety, the staff, cleanliness, and how are the beds? Is it walking distance to the beach and the action at Pedro Clisante? Do you need to take a taxi or motoconcho to bring a chica from a Pedro Clisante bar or is it close enough to the action to walk there and take a girl waking? Is this hotel a good base to stay in Sosua? I appreciate any response. Cerebro.My group had made reservations there a few years ago once I got there I stayed one night got my money refunded for the remaining days and the relocated to another place. I did not like the accommodations or where it was located. Its walking distance from the main strip, if my memory serves me correctly its pretty close to the Orange cell phone store a little past Bailey's.
Surprised your the only one who thought I was serious. The guy that asked is a newbie who could have found out the answer to his question in less than 5 min of searching the dr forum. If you don't rtff youll get no answer or answers like this.Then when you're answering make whatever snotty comment you're going to and then tell them to rtff, instead of just giving them an answer that's patently wrong. There's nothing wrong with being a newbie, and newbies aren't expected to know everything, or anything really. Even some snarky guidance will teach them the lesson and better let them contribute to this or any other other board than steering them wrong in the first place. It would have taken the same amount of time too.
Grandnash84
11-09-15, 11:36
Then when you're answering make whatever snotty comment you're going to and then tell them to rtff, instead of just giving them an answer that's patently wrong. There's nothing wrong with being a newbie, and newbies aren't expected to know everything, or anything really. Even some snarky guidance will teach them the lesson and better let them contribute to this or any other other board than steering them wrong in the first place. It would have taken the same amount of time too.Dosent matter if your a newbie or not, a question like that should have been looked up, as if it needed to anyway. Its common sense that any hotel in sosua is chica friendly especially vh. Questions like this get answers like this. It would be a differnet story if he asked about the price of chicas, bars on the strip etc, where to eat etc.
Then when you're answering make whatever snotty comment you're going to and then tell them to rtff, instead of just giving them an answer that's patently wrong. There's nothing wrong with being a newbie, and newbies aren't expected to know everything, or anything really. Even some snarky guidance will teach them the lesson and better let them contribute to this or any other other board than steering them wrong in the first place. It would have taken the same amount of time too.It gets frustrating seeing people constantly ask the same questions, questions which have been answered many times in the past. Different people deal with the frustration different ways.
There are some really incredible resources buried in the forum, including a very comprehensive list of chica friendly hotels with contact info and prices. When people are encouraged, snottily or otherwise, to RTFF, they gain a great deal more than if we all play 20 questions with them.
Member #4398
11-10-15, 02:45
I am curious. Why this post and update in this section? Is the unfortunate victim a known monger from ISG? Is this a warning not to go to RD?
Wednesday, November 4, 2015.
PP prosecutors requested detention couple against US citizen murdered and dismembered.
Attorney Attorney PUERTO PLATA Puerto Plata today before Judge deposited by the Office of Permanent Attention of this jurisdiction, the application of coercive measures against citizens Frank Sorichette and / or Carleone Frankie and Mary Geraldine De La Rosa Batista, whom they are accused of being associated to kill and rob their property Renault Mr. Brent Lewis, dated November 3, 2014...
I am curious. Why this post and update in this section? Is the unfortunate victim a known monger from ISG? Is this a warning not to go to RD?The victim was the owner of Perla de Sosua. Questions were asked about that particular hotel.
Member #4398
11-11-15, 16:33
The victim was the owner of Perla de Sosua. Questions were asked about that particular hotel.Wow! That was sick. Thanks for the info.
OK. I am headed down in a couple weeks. It will be my fourth trip = I love it there and I always have a blast but to be honest I have not had that many good encounters. Some have been down right shit and I left the room before anything happened with out my money. I tend to be a morning or afternoon guy and sometimes the pickins are a little slim and it doesn't seem to matter anyway. You pick a likely girl and take your chances. Is there a review board with some contact info anywhere. I am sick of hit and miss. Are there any worthwhile casas de citas. I have some functional spanish- sorry if this has been asked before I have trouble sorting the threads here.
OK. You pick a likely girl and take your chances. Is there a review board with some contact info anywhere. I am sick of hit and miss. Are there any worthwhile casas de citas. I have some functional spanish- sorry if this has been asked before I have trouble sorting the threads here.I know exactly how you feel because I felt the same way my first 3-4 times to the DR. Its just a crap shoot in Sosua and Santo Domingo, its a roll of the dice with these girls. Maybe you can get a good review by one of your buddies who has been with her but for the most part you just have to hope you have a decent time.
Charles Pooter
11-14-15, 17:48
I always have a blast but to be honest I have not had that many good encounters.Most of us visit Sosua for the sex. So how do you have "a blast" without good sex? I am guessing (and I could be completely wrong) that you drink a lot? If so, this could explain why your sexual encounters are bad. Selecting chicas while under the influence can impair your judgment.
I left the room before anything happened without my money. So where are you doing these chicas if not in your own room? And why are you paying up front (always a bad move)?
I tend to be a morning or afternoon guy and sometimes the pickings are a little slim.This should work to your advantage. Most girls rely on late evening / night to make money. Any money they make during the day is a bonus for them. They should be less hurried or cheaper or both. The secret is to collect phone numbers early (ish) in the evening. You can make appointments for the next day too, but half of these will fall through so you need other numbers to try on the following day. For this reason make it clear to the chicas that if they do not arrive on time the deal is off.
You pick a likely girl and take your chances. That is true for all of us even the most experienced, but the percentage of disappointments should lower with experience. For newbies the percentage may be:
20% to 25% disappointing.
50% to 60% value for money.
20% to 25% especially enjoyable. You would repeat.
You will improve these odds by (1) finding girls away from the Strip and (2) choosing haitianas.
Is there a review board with some contact info anywhere? No. Firstly YMMV and secondly the scene is always changing. Those chicas who are always there are generally the ones to avoid.
Are there any worthwhile casas de citas? No. There were two, but they were closed down by the authorities two years back.
I am sick of hit and miss. So why do you not go to Blackbeards instead? (See the Blackbeards section on this board for reviews).
It is a little more expensive than Sosua but if you have a high failure rate with chicas in Sosua it would work out cheaper for you.
One reason not to go there might be your answer to my first question. If you have a blast in Sosua doing stuff you can only do there, drinking with friends, scuba diving, or whatever, a compromise might be to stay at Field of Dreams. Sosua is only a couple of dollars and 25 minutes away by public transport which runs 24/7. You could go into Sosua to do whatever you want to do. You could pick up girls there and do them in Sosua in Dulce Secreto or take the back to Field of Dreams. If you fail to find a chica in Sosua you would have the Field of Dreams girls to fall back on.
There are downsides to Field of Dreams so read the posts in that section first.
Charles Pooter
11-14-15, 17:57
I know exactly how you feel because I felt the same way my first 3-4 times to the DR. Its just a crap shoot in Sosua and Santo Domingo, its a roll of the dice with these girls. Maybe you can get a good review by one of your buddies who has been with her but for the most part you just have to hope you have a decent time.I know nothing about SD, except that it would be unwise to go there without reasonable Spanish, but the answer in Sosua is to avoid the hardcore girls on the Strip and the daytime streetwalkers. Pick up chicas away from the strip in Sosua and in nearby towns, villages and bateys. Those that have normal jobs (that do not interface with gringos) are generally better. Haitianas tend to be more honest and sweeter-natured.
OK. I am headed down in a couple weeks. It will be my fourth trip = I love it there and I always have a blast but to be honest I have not had that many good encounters. Some have been down right shit and I left the room before anything happened with out my money. I tend to be a morning or afternoon guy and sometimes the pickins are a little slim and it doesn't seem to matter anyway. You pick a likely girl and take your chances. Is there a review board with some contact info anywhere. I am sick of hit and miss. Are there any worthwhile casas de citas. I have some functional spanish- sorry if this has been asked before I have trouble sorting the threads here.No, there's no review board with contact info. If there was, the quality girls would be swamped with 500 contacts a day, 495 of them people who will never visit and who just want free pics or want to harass a chica.
If you limit your searches to morning and afternoon, your chances of a good time are reduced. The ones who are worth the price aren't going to hang out on the street in the hottest part of the day, getting nasty looks from regular tourists and turning down all the 500 peso offers. There might be some gems, maybe at the beach, but you'll have a tougher time finding them.
There are options. First option is to hunt at night, take your time, do some screening and set something up for the following morning or afternoon. You might have some no shows, but I think chances of a good session are better with the ones who do show.
Another option is to set up dates before your trip. Use the cupid sites, chat up 20 or 30. You will find plenty who are willing. You might improve your chances by staying somewhere other than Sosua. Many of the cupid chicas think it's dirty to go to Sosua and get paid for sex, but it's fine in Santiago or Puerto Plata. There's no performance guarantee there either, but it does give you more morning and afternoon options.
Of course you could just go to Blackbeard's or Field of Dreams. You might have the same bad luck, but you don't have to walk as far.
In the dozens of times I have been in Sosua, I have never yet had a bad week. I was there last month, and I'll be there next month. It will be a great week.
Guaranteed!
Early on, I liked what I saw over a few days, and developed a relationship with a former Dominicana semi pro, her family and her island-wide contacts, who has a job (sometimes two) and who lives far away from gringos and tourist resorts.
Some call it "wifing up", I prefer the term "regular".
Wifing up implies you are supporting her when you are not there, but my regular is with me 24/7 when I'm there, and I'm there often enough to make it worth her while not to bug me for money in the meantime. We have actually become very good friends, so there is a little bit of gift giving at Christmas and birthday. The cost is about the same as serial fucking for the week.
I sometimes get there a couple days early, so I can sample the putas. I had maybe two putas over the years who held out for more money than agreed, but even then the sex was great!
But it's not till Princessa shows up after a 10 hour taxi and bus ride, with that big smile on her face, at my local pub manned by her "cousins", with her bags, that my vacation really begins. If she's early she'll come to the airport.
I've taken a lot of shit on this board for believing and writing that you can have such a relationship (you can't trust them, they are all hoes, they'll steal your stuff, and so on) but it seems a more intimate relationship than the slam bam, bait and switch putas, is now being recommended here, even by my former critics :)
Take next month for example. I'm taking a buddy down for a week. My regular has already sent me at least half a dozen photos of chicas for my buddy to choose from, from her own small town. These are personal friends that know how to behave and have a good time. We did the same thing a couple years ago, and it worked out great.
Dominican Republic is what it is.
It's what you make of it that's important.
I know exactly how you feel because I felt the same way my first 3-4 times to the DR. Its just a crap shoot in Sosua and Santo Domingo, its a roll of the dice with these girls. Maybe you can get a good review by one of your buddies who has been with her but for the most part you just have to hope you have a decent time.I have said this before, but I guess it is time for a refresher. These girls are not board-certified licensed professionals who deliver a service according to measurable quality standards.
If you want good sex, then you have to make them like you enough to want to please you, or perhaps make them sufficiently sexually aroused themselves to deliver a passionate sexual experience. So. While paying money will get you sex, you will still have to treat them like girls you are not paying if you want to form the kind of intimate bond that will lead to great sex. As others have said, if you don't want late night sex, you may need to find ways to set up appointments for the following day, rather than hunting in the heat of the afternoon, when choices will be limited.
My other advice would be don't rush into sex or deal with girls who are in a hurry to get the deed done. Spend some time with them, flirt with them, don't necessarily go with them on the first day. When they eventually nail you, they will then have a sense of accomplishment.
I am assuming that you take all the necessary steps to show good hygiene, well-groomed, well-dressed, classy behavior, and so on and will not presume to lecture on that. I know you know this, but I am constantly amazed when I see guys who are in Sosua presumably on sex vacations, and yet they don't even bother to get their hair decently styled or clean their shoes, or walk in the street in their undergarments.
Live fight night in Sosua. 500 peso to 1000 for seats. Crowd is gathering.
I have said this before, but I guess it is time for a refresher. These girls are not board-certified licensed professionals who deliver a service according to measurable quality standards.
If you want good sex, then you have to make them like you enough to want to please you, or perhaps make them sufficiently sexually aroused themselves to deliver a passionate sexual experience. So. While paying money will get you sex, you will still have to treat them like girls you are not paying if you want to form the kind of intimate bond that will lead to great sex. As others have said, if you don't want late night sex, you may need to find ways to set up appointments for the following day, rather than hunting in the heat of the afternoon, when choices will be limited.
My other advice would be don't rush into sex or deal with girls who are in a hurry to get the deed done. Spend some time with them, flirt with them, don't necessarily go with them on the first day. When they eventually nail you, they will then have a sense of accomplishment.
I am assuming that you take all the necessary steps to show good hygiene, well-groomed, well-dressed, classy behavior, and so on and will not presume to lecture on that. I know you know this, but I am constantly amazed when I see guys who are in Sosua presumably on sex vacations, and yet they don't even bother to get their hair decently styled or clean their shoes, or walk in the street in their undergarments.Great advice, put them on your time and make them appreciate working for the experience. The problem is that this advice isn't appreciated in this sport fucking climate. I've noticed guys these days don't have time for charisma or understand the girls want to be seduced. Being that most guys view P4 P as a business transaction they forget the human aspect that is involved and forget the chase and seduction. It excites me when she plays the role of wanting this to be real and I get to play the same role.
I was looking at flights to Columbia and they are cheaper then going to the DR. My question is to guys who have done both places. I have done some reading but haves questions. The hotels and food are very close. I have seen Columbian women and they seem to be superior to the DR girls. A lot more plastic surgery but that is ok with me. I would like to get some opinions comparing the 2 places.
I was looking at flights to Columbia and they are cheaper then going to the DR. My question is to guys who have done both places. I have done some reading but haves questions. The hotels and food are very close. I have seen Columbian women and they seem to be superior to the DR girls. A lot more plastic surgery but that is ok with me. I would like to get some opinions comparing the 2 places.What part of Colombia? I just booked a trip to Bogota for 211 usd rt. We can't go into details about Colombia here in the Sosua forum so hit me on the PM.
I was looking at flights to Columbia and they are cheaper then going to the DR. My question is to guys who have done both places. I have done some reading but haves questions. The hotels and food are very close. I have seen Columbian women and they seem to be superior to the DR girls. A lot more plastic surgery but that is ok with me. I would like to get some opinions comparing the 2 places.Of course flights to Columbia are cheaper than the DR, because Columbia is in South Carolina.
Of course flights to Columbia are cheaper than the DR, because Columbia is in South Carolina.Moe, "Rome wasn't built in a day".
Shemp, "neider was Syracuse".
For some reason your post is showing up on my phone, but not on my desktop, hence the reply in a different thread.
Yeah, well, sport fucking is OK if that is what you want, but you are mostly not going to get really great sex, if that is what you are looking for. Unfortunately a lot of people these days see the whole of life as a business transaction, and they lose out a lot because of this narrow outlook. I think people are also influenced in their perspectives by the easy availabilty of online pornography, and even though they may state that they know it is not real, they don't quite understand exactly how it is not real. For example, there is never any realistic conversation or flirting in porno, people never address each other by their names, never talk about condoms, or taking a shower. I could go on, but you get the picture. It is not just that what is shown on camera is edited and impossible in real life, but that a whole abnormal style of interaction is depicted.
Moe"Rome wasn't built in a day".Frannie, "but when it caught fire, it burned down in one night".
Durandpaul
11-15-15, 22:56
For some reason your post is showing up on my phone, but not on my desktop, hence the reply in a different thread.
Yeah, well, sport fucking is OK if that is what you want, but you are mostly not going to get really great sex, if that is what you are looking for. Unfortunately a lot of people these days see the whole of life as a business transaction, and they lose out a lot because of this narrow outlook. .I was in thailand few weeks ago. I went there for work, but I was able to get away from my co-workers few times to go massage spots or BJ bars. I am a booty man, so DR is the place to be for me. I will be in sosua in December for my second trip, my first trip was all about sportfucking. My experience in thailand was definitely better. I am not trying to start a debate on what's better between sosua and Bangkok, but I experienced a better level of customer satisfaction in Bangkok. When you get a 90 min massage, you can bang the girl for the first 30 min. When you are done, you get cleaned up and get to continue your massage for the remaining 60 min.
For my next trip to sosua, I am willing to venture to Puerto Plata on few nights to try my luck with semi pros or non pros. I will need a regular or few regulars to spend the nights with. I hate spending the night with a chick that you just want to keep out as soon as you get the change. My preference is to spend the night with a chick I like or have some type ofconnection, during the day I am all about getting a nut.
Eventually I would like to stay in puerto plata on my third trip, and just head to sosua during the day. Talking to non pros require investing time, I think what I got going on for my is being young. By young I am talking about early 30's. Buying drinks to girls in a club or being in a VIP section can be an ice breaker. I am not talking about being in a VIP spot at classicos, but in a club where 90% of women are non pros. I was able to score with an accountant in Bangkok. The only thing I spent on her were dinner dates. When a non pro looks at you and feel like you are not a monger, I don't see why the normal strategies to get women wouldn't work. I do that in the US, and it works well.
Very Deep Man but I like it.
For some reason your post is showing up on my phone, but not on my desktop, hence the reply in a different thread.
Yeah, well, sport fucking is OK if that is what you want, but you are mostly not going to get really great sex, if that is what you are looking for. Unfortunately a lot of people these days see the whole of life as a business transaction, and they lose out a lot because of this narrow outlook. I think people are also influenced in their perspectives by the easy availabilty of online pornography, and even though they may state that they know it is not real, they don't quite understand exactly how it is not real. For example, there is never any realistic conversation or flirting in porno, people never address each other by their names, never talk about condoms, or taking a shower. I could go on, but you get the picture. It is not just that what is shown on camera is edited and impossible in real life, but that a whole abnormal style of interaction is depicted.
I was looking at flights to Columbia and they are cheaper then going to the DR. My question is to guys who have done both places. I have done some reading but haves questions. The hotels and food are very close. I have seen Columbian women and they seem to be superior to the DR girls. A lot more plastic surgery but that is ok with me. I would like to get some opinions comparing the 2 places.Comparing the two places is like comparing apples to oranges. I have been to Medellin, Colombia three times in the last five months and spent two months during those last three trips. Everything is actually cheaper than in Sosua and the women are beautiful. Colombia is also much more dangerous in my opinion than the DR. The country has no real tourist infrastructure so the Colombians are not used to seeing lots of tourists. Speaking Spanish is a must there as very few people speak English. In Medellin you can get by on less than $ 50 a day if you stay in El Centro where you can get a hotel room for $ 10/ day and three street girls at $ 10 each a day and $ 10 a day for food. I have done this there and there are many others there doing the same thing, however this is the low end mongering excursion in Medellin and unless you have some Spanish speaking skills and can somewhat blend in I would not recommend it. They have a great casa scene in Medellin and from about $ 15 up you can have a great time with some beautiful girls. On my last trip I stayed a month in Medellin and actually rented two places. I had a one bedroom apartment in Poblado near Parque LLeras which is the Beverly Hills of the City which cost me less than $ 40 a night including breakfast and a hotel room in El Centro that I got for $ 8 a night. The people in Medellin are the nicest people I have ever met and quite frankly make the Dominicans seem like a bunch of hillbillies in comparison. As far as things to do there, well that's an issue because if your on a pure mongering trip there's only so much tourist stuff you can do in Medellin. On my last two trips I was studying Spanish at a University which basically kept me busy all day between classes and homework. If you have Spanish speaking skills I think you will enjoy it. I know some of the other DR regulars have been there and like it, it's very different than Sosua which has all the nice beaches, etc. To give you an idea how different things are between the two places in Medellin the construction workers all wear hard-hats, long pants, gloves, hearing protection, red vests, eye protection, etc. In Sosua the construction workers wear shorts and flip flops. Perhaps this is a weird comparison but it speaks volumes as to how up to date the Colombians are. As far as the women, there are some beauties and some can be passionate beyond belief but a lot will depend on you. I suggest you go for a week, you might fall in love with the place and dump the DR. Feel free to PM me if you need any help planning a trip there in the near future.
Sitting in a bar in Costumbar yesterday. Cops enter looking for the girl I banged the night before. The charge, soliciting. Bartender tells me they're cleaning this area of working girls. Question: Wouldn't that drive all the girls to Dominican cupid? I haven't met anyone from Cupid yet, but am getting a lot of numbers and I'm no hunk. LOL. Are they all strumpets? Thanks lonely.
Most of us visit Sosua for the sex. So how do you have "a blast" without good sex? I am guessing (and I could be completely wrong) that you drink a lot? If so, this could explain why your sexual encounters are bad. Selecting chicas while under the influence can impair your judgment.
[I]Yup - I go on a Caribbean vacation with buddies and there's drinking - shocking I know but I have heard rumors that others do similar things - frankly thats why I focus late morning and afternoon - I am smart enough to avoid the chicas...Ty CP. I appreciate the help. I am a pretty experienced monger with basic functional Spanish so it is a little frustrating.
Closing times suspended.
The Minister of Interior and Police, Mr José Ramóand Fadul has announced that from 10 December to 7 January, the curfew on sales of alcoholic beverages will be lifted. This means that all establishments such as bars, restaurants and nightclubs are allowed in this period to stay open 24 hours a day and sell alcohol. The Minister came to this decision after consultation with representatives from the bars and restaurants and artistic world as both depend on these additional opening hours for extra revenues during this period. Artists, such as musicians can do more than one gig on an evening in this period and gain extra during Christmas time.
The minister also announced that during the holidays there will be more police and soldiers in the streets (also in Sosúa and Cabarete) to ensure the safety of citizens.
I was looking at flights to Columbia and they are cheaper then going to the DR. My question is to guys who have done both places. I have done some reading but haves questions. The hotels and food are very close. I have seen Columbian women and they seem to be superior to the DR girls. A lot more plastic surgery but that is ok with me. I would like to get some opinions comparing the 2 places.I can only compare Bogota and the DR, and Medellin is really the monger capitol of Colombia.
You know the routine in Sosua, say no 30 or 40 times until you find one worth a yes. Or you work the Cupid girls and line them up and hope they show. The cost of either is about the same.
With Bogota you're dealing with a city of 8 million (census) to 12 million (according to the locals) people. Except in the Santa Fe area, the Zona de Tolerencia, it's not anything like Sosua. Overall, the people there are healthier and more attractive than Sosua, but that might just be my preference. In 10 days there, I saw one woman I would consider obese and maybe 50 who I would call fat. I spent every day riding the Transmilenio and walking the streets, so I got a good view of the population.
Prices are comparable to Sosua for food, lodging and chicas. The only real difference is that, like any big city, Bogota has places you probably should avoid. Most of the worst areas are in the south and west. I stayed north, near Parque 93, a popular nightclub and shopping area. Great hotel for about $75 per night, breakfast included.
With Sosua, everything is either walking distance or a short motoconcho ride. With Bogota, as long as you can get to the Transmilenio, everything is pretty accessible. Cost is 1300 pesos off peak and 1700 pesos during peak times. Currently it's about 3050 pesos per dollar. The cost gets you into the station. From there take any bus, transfer as many times as you want. I spent a few hours just riding and getting a bigger view of the city. The altitude might affect you. It keeps the climate very comfortable, but the lower air pressure means you'll probably get winded quicker.
There are a few things to worry about in Bogota. Taxis, especially in the Santa Fe area, can be dangerous. Always better to call for a taxi than to flag one down, especially at night. There's a scam where two men will work together, one pretending to be with the police. They lure you somewhere to verify your identification and to make sure you aren't carrying drugs or counterfeit money. A couple were arrested at the airport several months ago. One other trick is to spike your drink. This happens occasionally in the strip clubs. When you head to the bathroom or while you're distracted, someone drops something in your drink. Then they lead you to a few ATMs, then back to your hotel, you wake up the next day and everything is gone.
I didn't try exploiting the cupid scene for my Bogota trip, but I'm sure it's an option. However, I expect the girls will be less easily impressed than in the DR. Bogota is a world-class city, they are less likely to be impressed with cheap gifts. I also didn't venture into Santa Fe, as it wasn't a mongering trip, but plenty of information is available.
The different strengths, IMHO, of Sosua, Bogota and Medellin.
Straight sport fucking, go to Sosua. It's safe, cheap and everything's within reach. Maybe best of all, there's plenty of fellow mongerers to chat with when you're not otherwise occupied.
For more varied mongering, go to Medellin. The casas have been recommended by many.
For a tourist vacation with mongering opportunity, go to Bogota. Take a ride up Monserrate, visit the gold museum and other cultural sights downtown, head out on Sunday morning to experience Ciclovia, hit the discos in Zona Rosa, enjoy a burger and beer at La Hamburgesa, and an arepa at La Areparia Venezolana. And either venture to Santa Fe, or pick up some of the streetwalkers, try the various massage parlors, use the many escort services, or use your magic on cupid to keep your bed occupied.
It really all depends on what you want to get out of the trip.
Charles Pooter
11-17-15, 17:57
I can only compare Bogota and the DR etc
Good stuff, JjBee. I hope you will copy and paste it into the Bogota section as well.
Good stuff, JjBee. I hope you will copy and paste it into the Bogota section as well.That sounds like work, but since it's you asking, I'll do it.
I was looking at flights to Columbia and they are cheaper then going to the DR. My question is to guys who have done both places. I have done some reading but haves questions. The hotels and food are very close. I have seen Columbian women and they seem to be superior to the DR girls. A lot more plastic surgery but that is ok with me. I would like to get some opinions comparing the 2 places.Olkool I been to Medellin and the little I know about it; I don't think you will go crazy. Seem to me you like to socialize in your comfort. There is not a lot of tourist socialization with normal chicas looking to make some extra cash. You will be limited to the Casa and strip clubs. Because these chicas are working for someone in their establishment the service is better. Sosua chicas are mostly independent. No boss means terrible to good service. You are dealing with street chicas after all. It take a little skills, patients and a lot of luck to get a winner. Once you get the hang it smooth. The street walker in Medellin central I wouldn't touch. I ever seen any chicas that will make me yes Damn. I say Damn a lot in Santiago. Medellin is silicone Valley. I passed on this. My last day in Medellin I settled with a with flat ass chica because she was natural. I don't know how anyone can say Sosua is the sports capital. Columbia hands down! You can fuck 3 girls in one casa for just $48. To me the biggest difference is the average chicas in Sosua are fucking 2 to 5 gringos a week. The chicas in the Casa in Medellin fuck 3 to 5 a day. Some guys actually sit and wait for their favorite to finish with her session.
Hats off to Surfer, Grown Man and JBee. True brothers.
Advice like that is worth a lot!
I want to start by thanking everyone who post on these threads for all the great information.
With that being said, I am planing a trip to DR in January with some high school buddies. I have been to Santo Domingo on my own about 3 years ago and had a great time. I was there for about 3-1/2 weeks.
I want to take my buddies to with Puerto Plata, Sosua or Cabarete. I friend of mine who frequents DR quite a bit said I should stay in Cabarete. I concerned there will not be enough talent in this area.
We are looking for top notch ladies. It is there first time in DR and I want it to be a memorable time. What do you guys think? We are planning on renting a luxury home (5 Bedroom).
I would go to Santiago because I know the girls are beautiful there but we are looking for a beach town.
Thanks in advance.
I want to start by thanking everyone who post on these threads for all the great information.
With that being said, I am planing a trip to DR in January with some high school buddies. I have been to Santo Domingo on my own about 3 years ago and had a great time. I was there for about 3-1/2 weeks.
I want to take my buddies to with Puerto Plata, Sosua or Cabarete. I friend of mine who frequents DR quite a bit said I should stay in Cabarete. I concerned there will not be enough talent in this area.
We are looking for top notch ladies. It is there first time in DR and I want it to be a memorable time. What do you guys think? We are planning on renting a luxury home (5 Bedroom).
I would go to Santiago because I know the girls are beautiful there but we are looking for a beach town.
Thanks in advance.Cabarete would be fine, but presumably the large 5-bedroom house you are going to rent will be somewhere between Cabarete and Sosua anyway, as there is not much on the other side of Cabarete. If that is the case, it will be within 10 minutes drive of Sosua, where there are all kinds of chicas to be found. With 5 of you, you might want to rent a large SUV or a couple of vehicles to get around, or you can use local taxis or the public taxis, which are very cheap and run all night. As far as "top notch ladies" are concerned, that is all in the eye of the beholder, but beware of Dominican pimps offering "top notch ladies", because they will almost certainly be lower notch ladies with top notch price tags attached.
I want to start by thanking everyone who post on these threads for all the great information.
With that being said, I am planing a trip to DR in January with some high school buddies. I have been to Santo Domingo on my own about 3 years ago and had a great time. I was there for about 3-1/2 weeks.
I want to take my buddies to with Puerto Plata, Sosua or Cabarete. I friend of mine who frequents DR quite a bit said I should stay in Cabarete. I concerned there will not be enough talent in this area.
We are looking for top notch ladies. It is there first time in DR and I want it to be a memorable time. What do you guys think? We are planning on renting a luxury home (5 Bedroom).
I would go to Santiago because I know the girls are beautiful there but we are looking for a beach town.
Thanks in advance.Cabarete is a poor choice if your major objective is mongering. Sosua is where most of the action is. And there are no "Top Notch Ladies" in any of these places. These girls are NOT high class refined escorts you might find working for agencies in various parts of the US and the rest of the world. They are mostly poorly educated women with little sophistication who are struggling to make ends meet and feed their children in a society where this is little economic opportunity for them, or anybody else. Not saying you can't have a great time there, just make sure you have realistic expectations.
Cabarete is a poor choice if your major objective is mongering. Sosua is where most of the action is. And there are no "Top Notch Ladies" in any of these places. These girls are NOT high class refined escorts you might find working for agencies in various parts of the US and the rest of the world. They are mostly poorly educated women with little sophistication who are struggling to make ends meet and feed their children in a society where this is little economic opportunity for them, or anybody else. Not saying you can't have a great time there, just make sure you have realistic expectations.I agree with your advice on Cabarete. It's the perfect place to entertain a chica though.
Like the other poster says, stay away from pimps.
My buddy's favorite place to hang out is Meringue Bar at the bottom of the stairs to Classico, and watch the parade. It is always mind boggling for a first timer who is not used to seeing all that beautiful and available cheap pussy all in one place.
For the experienced monger in Sosua, I believe you hone your game and insstincts towards the fresh talent that comes and goes all the time.
How do you know the difference between fresh talent and hard ones?
That's where experience comes in, and it's part of the fun, sorting them out!
Charles Pooter
11-18-15, 14:40
Like the other poster says, stay away from pimps.
... beware of Dominican pimps offering "top notch ladies", because they will almost certainly be lower notch ladies with top notch price tags attached.I will "third" those sentiments. Find your own chicas and never pay anything up front. If you find one good chica, and she becomes aware that nothing will happen unless she also finds chicas for your mates, she will soon magic up some "primas" (so-called cousins).
Members here know that I maintain a vendetta against private taxis, but with five guys sharing (or even only three or four sharing) they become the most sensible option, as Dominican taxis charge per mile and not per passenger (although with a group an additional propina would be only fair). If there are indeed five of you, you will need to find a guy with a sizable jeepeta (SUV). Plenty of options. Don't try to negotiate a package for your whole stay, it will only end in tears. Pay the driver as you go.
Don't waste time and money looking for North American style "models" or "porn stars". The DR is for the cheap and cheerful crowd, although some idiots somehow manage to pay through the nose and still leave miserable.
If money is no object and you put a premium on looks, stay in Puerto Plata and draw your chicas from Cristal. Not worth the extra in my opinion, but a hundred dollars to me may be like ten dollars to you if you guys are loaded.
If you find one good chica, and she becomes aware that nothing will happen unless she also finds chicas for your mates, she will soon magic up some "primas" (so-called cousins)..Classic Advice!
Thank you for all your replies!
I forgot to mention that I am a seasoned monger. Many countries and many years as well as a few friends that are coming to the trip. I have had great success in Santo Domingo since I am spanish. I met locals and pros. Some top notch.
Since this is my first time in the Puerto Plata / Sosua area I wanted to go to the experts!
I am now thinking about looking for a house in Puerto Plata. We know not to over pay. I would never mess it up for the next guy. I was thinking about a trip to Santiago since the girl there are a little better but we are trying to keep the trip simple.
With that being said, Any recommendations in Puerto Plata besides renting a house that have top accommodations and guest friendly in case we don't go with a house.
I have had success with Dominican cupid as well and might line something up but I don't want to get stuck with girl for entire trip.
Please keep input coming.
Thanks!
Grandnash84
11-19-15, 08:24
Thank you for all your replies!
I forgot to mention that I am a seasoned monger. Many countries and many years as well as a few friends that are coming to the trip. I have had great success in Santo Domingo since I am spanish. I met locals and pros. Some top notch.
Since this is my first time in the Puerto Plata / Sosua area I wanted to go to the experts!
I am now thinking about looking for a house in Puerto Plata. We know not to over pay. I would never mess it up for the next guy. I was thinking about a trip to Santiago since the girl there are a little better but we are trying to keep the trip simple.
With that being said, Any recommendations in Puerto Plata besides renting a house that have top accommodations and guest friendly in case we don't go with a house.
I have had success with Dominican cupid as well and might line something up but I don't want to get stuck with girl for entire trip.
Please keep input coming.
My advice would be to rent a manson in sosua. Most of the action is going to be in sosua so why not just stay there. Pp is nice but it will be a hassle taking a taxi to the strip everytime and way more convient. If 9's and 10's are what you are looking for crystal in pp or passions in santiago is where its at. To find 9 and 10 models, they are all in the casas and charge $100 for 2 hour take out so it will get very expensive. You can get their numbers and have them come over before they start thier shifts but if your going to be with 4 other people prob be hard to cordinate 5 cases chicas to come over before thier shifts. It is best to stay in sosua and take a taxi to pp or santiago for the day or night. Renting a van and driver for 6 or 8 hours to take you and your friends to santiago would prob cost 150-200 split by 5 people. during the day can be boring if your staying ia a manson in between sosua and pp, sosua is already kinda of boring byitself during the day so imagine staying in a house that is not walking distance to anything. will be quite annoying Try hispanoliarealestate to rent a manson in sosua or pp.
Thank you for all your replies!
I forgot to mention that I am a seasoned monger. Many countries and many years as well as a few friends that are coming to the trip. I have had great success in Santo Domingo since I am spanish. I met locals and pros. Some top notch.
Since this is my first time in the Puerto Plata / Sosua area I wanted to go to the experts!
In that case I would call the whole thing off. With five people renting a house together there is just too much that can go wrong. One guy will meet a chica the first day and want to wife up for the rest of the trip, another will feel guilty and be on the phone to his wife or girlfriend in Spain for the whole trip, another will spill the beans back home when someone finds the photos on his cell phone, or he gets Whatapp messages from a DR chica, and so on. That is my two cents worth.
In that case I would call the whole thing off. With five people renting a house together there is just too much that can go wrong. One guy will meet a chica the first day and want to wife up for the rest of the trip, another will feel guilty and be on the phone to his wife or girlfriend in Spain for the whole trip, another will spill the beans back home when someone finds the photos on his cell phone, or he gets Whatapp messages from a DR chica, and so on. That is my two cents worth.Sorry if this sounds a little harsh, but I think if it is just a question of catching up with some old high school buddies for a vacation and you want a beach town, you would be better to get a nice place in or near Cabarete, where there are great beaches, windsurfing galore, some quite good restaurants on the beach, and so on and use that as your base, then go on some trips and excursions as the mood takes you, golfing if that is what you want, and just keep the mongering low key and let each guy decides what he wants to do in the evenings. Mongering is too personal a thing to work well as a group activity. If you are going in January, you need to get your accommodations sorted out pretty soon. There are not many large houses available for short term rent in Puerto Plata, and even then you might have to be careful about upsetting neighbours etc. Ideally you might want to find a large walled villa in a subdivision where the buildings are not too close and the neighbors not too nosy and the landlord or rental agent not too intrusive. You are also perhaps going to have to think about things like housekeepers or even a cook if you are staying for any length of time.
Fran your are getting old and stiff. Five guys traveling to screw young girls on a tropical island is a dream come true. Puerto Plata is a poor choice for your location because there is no central location for seeing the ladies. Finding five acceptable girls in a brothel is even hard. You guys are sport fucking and Sosua is one of the best sport fucking locations in the world. You have beaches, Restaurants and women all with in walking distance. Every night over a hundred women show up to service willing men even more on the weekend. % guys together will have no problem finding acceptable girls. They are not all 9's and 10's but every guy will see some one they want to get with. Get a place as close to Sosua as possible and you and your friends can point and click. You will have a great time.
You guys can be on the prowl 24/7 if you want. There is always a little day time action on the beach. Make it easy post up in Sosua.
Sorry if this sounds a little harsh, but I think if it is just a question of catching up with some old high school buddies for a vacation and you want a beach town, you would be better to get a nice place in or near Cabarete, where there are great beaches, windsurfing galore, some quite good restaurants on the beach, and so on and use that as your base, then go on some trips and excursions as the mood takes you, golfing if that is what you want, and just keep the mongering low key and let each guy decides what he wants to do in the evenings. Mongering is too personal a thing to work well as a group activity. If you are going in January, you need to get your accommodations sorted out pretty soon. There are not many large houses available for short term rent in Puerto Plata, and even then you might have to be careful about upsetting neighbours etc. Ideally you might want to find a large walled villa in a subdivision where the buildings are not too close and the neighbors not too nosy and the landlord or rental agent not too intrusive. You are also perhaps going to have to think about things like housekeepers or even a cook if you are staying for any length of time.
Fran your are getting old and stiff. Five guys traveling to screw young girls on a tropical island is a dream come true. Puerto Plata is a poor choice for your location because there is no central location for seeing the ladies. Finding five acceptable girls in a brothel is even hard. You guys are sport fucking and Sosua is one of the best sport fucking locations in the world. You have beaches, Restaurants and women all with in walking distance. Every night over a hundred women show up to service willing men even more on the weekend. % guys together will have no problem finding acceptable girls. They are not all 9's and 10's but every guy will see some one they want to get with. Get a place as close to Sosua as possible and you and your friends can point and click. You will have a great time.
You guys can be on the prowl 24/7 if you want. There is always a little day time action on the beach. Make it easy post up in Sosua.Agreed.
Being close to a place like Sosua is the ANSWER for a bunch of horny guys. NOT a problem. A dream come true!
Frannie, you showing your age? :)
Fran your are getting old and stiff. Five guys traveling to screw young girls on a tropical island is a dream come true. I don't see why it is a dream come true to have four other guys along. You have said yourself that when you took some other guys along with you, there were all kinds of problems. Obviously the OP can do exactly what he wants, but remember that as a Spaniard, he comes from a country that already has beautiful beaches, brothels, fine resorts, and legal prostitution, so his perspective will be rather different from yours. I am in agreement that it would probably be a good thing to be close to Sosua, but both Cabarete and Puerto Plata are close to Sosua.
Welcome bro, let me start by saying that most of the things you plan pre-trip will never happen because once you get there plans go out the window. I agree with Old Kool, stay in Sosua. Get a few rooms at Europa hotel (40 usd a night), there is a bar out front as the group meet spot and you are within walking distance to the beach and clubs. This also allows each guy to maintain some independence.
I would not recommend a first timer to the DR to rent a car. The roads are bad, motochonchos do stupid shit and the cops will fuck with you, not to mention the shakedown on five gringos by the corrupt police and lawyers. Once you get a few trips to the DR under your belt you will be better prepared for these pitfalls. A group of gringos getting out of an SUV will probably only draw the hardcore girls that will be only thinking about a quick payday.
Groups:
My first trip to Medellin in 2009 was with a group of seven and five of us had never met before, we were all first timers to Medellin. Four guys rented a four bedroom penthouse compete with pool table (El Pablado), I rented a two bedroom across the street for me and the other guys stayed in a hotel 20 minutes away. The first day was cool as we walked around like lost newbies, but once we got comfortable the personalities started to come out. One guy was never on time so we always had to be on his time, another guy wanted to fuck every girl he saw in our condos never his, another guy never reached into his pocket to pay for shit unless we asked him three times, one guy fell in love and didn't want to go anywhere, and we had the undercover druggie that disappeared every now and then. Luckily I had my independence so I had a few luxuries. The girls always wanted to chill with me and not do the group thing at the penthouse. Girls were staying with me until the next day while the girls in groups at the penthouse did a 6 am morning wake up call to leave together. When guys at the penthouse would argue over taxi money I could just go to my spot and chill. One guy used my spare bedroom to fuck a girl and another guy got mad because he fucked her three days before. The funny part was that as we were exiting at the airport there was a major problem. One guy had a muslim named which raised flags so they asked him the names in his group. All the other guys went by the first name on their passport and were pulled into secondary but I have travel name that's different so I walked through without a problem as they looked for GoGo. That was my last time doing the big group thing.
Being NYC speaks Spanish will allow him some favors but I would suggest to keep it simple but allow each person to have some privacy to prevent internal bickering.
Having good fellowship is a very positive thing. The guys I took were not good friends. Never the less it was not a bad experience.
Coming from Spain seeing latina chica will be an exciting thing for these guys as well as having hot young girls. Prostitution in the first world is vey different then in the DR.
I don't see why it is a dream come true to have four other guys along. You have said yourself that when you took some other guys along with you, there were all kinds of problems. Obviously the OP can do exactly what he wants, but remember that as a Spaniard, he comes from a country that already has beautiful beaches, brothels, fine resorts, and legal prostitution, so his perspective will be rather different from yours. I am in agreement that it would probably be a good thing to be close to Sosua, but both Cabarete and Puerto Plata are close to Sosua.
Charles Pooter
11-19-15, 23:16
Prostitution in the first world is very different than in the DR.Yes, in Spain a third of the working girls are Dominican. In the DR, a third are Haitian. :)
Welcome bro, let me start by saying that most of the things you plan pre-trip will never happen because once you get there plans go out the window. I agree with Old Kool, stay in Sosua. Get a few rooms at Europa hotel (40 usd a night), there is a bar out front as the group meet spot and you are within walking distance to the beach and clubs. This also allows each guy to maintain some independence.
I would not recommend a first timer to the DR to rent a car. The roads are bad, motochonchos do stupid shit and the cops will fuck with you, not to mention the shakedown on five gringos by the corrupt police and lawyers. Once you get a few trips to the DR under your belt you will be better prepared for these pitfalls. A group of gringos getting out of an SUV will probably only draw the hardcore girls that will be only thinking about a quick payday..I agree completely!
This makes 2 in a row from my old adversaries, Oldkool and MrGG.
Something's changed here, as I could have posted this stuff (probably did), years ago. :)
Anyway, whatever, welcome to the Sosua puta appreciation society.
Great advice and info guys.
We are definitely looking to monger. We are all on the same page. After all your advice we are looking to book a home in Sosua. We want to be able to enjoy the home during the day and possibly bring girls over. Then hit the strip at night.
Will keep you guys posted.
I will look into hispanoliarealestate.
Thanks
Pip Jaeger
11-20-15, 07:13
Overdue FR's from late Sept. Sorry for the delay in posting this series of reports; work's been crazy since I returned.
Hitched a ride to POP on a cargo plane, which is owned by friend, so saved a bit on airfare. My friend wanted to join me, but he had other stops to make on other islands. Happened that the A / A Miami flight arrived just after us, but I managed to get into the terminal ahead of the passengers so I didn't have to wait in any lines. POP airport is small and easily navigated. Once inside I went to the area where you can purchase your tourist card. As I already purchased it in advance online, I simply presented the form to the second set of officials (first group was if you needed to purchase the tourist card).
Went past baggage claim and then thru customs. Didn't like the aggressive porters trying to grab my suitcase. Private driver was waiting to take me to BB. Along the way we stopped for a beer at a roadside "caf" (I had a beer / driver a juice). I wasn't aware there were two sizes of "El Presidente" and wound up with a grande sized bottle of ice cold goodness. The driver and I sat at a roadside table, played a few games of dominos which, judging from the many other occupied tables, seems to a popular way for locals to pass time and gossip.
After finishing the beer and getting a slight buzz (no real food since early in the morning) we continued on thru Puerto Plate. Stopped at a money changer, place called Rosas I think. The spot forex rate that morning was 47.24; at the airport the rate was 37 pesos to the USD, which I knew this was a rip-off. At the money changer, the rate was fair at 45.50. Then it was on to BB.
Continued in the BB thread.
Pip Jaeger
11-20-15, 07:14
Day 5.
Breakfast at hotel was good; it's a set menu with quite a few options; eggs, omelets, pancakes, bacon, ham, etc. Afterwards I went to place up the street for a manicure / pedicure (600 p) and to another place for a haircut (200 p). I also checked around for a place to get a massage, the salon where I got the manicure offered them, but the small room and on their premises looked filthy and the massage table was nasty looking as well; I was quoted 600 p for one hour and 1,000 p for one hour outcall at my hotel. Decided to hold off as was I supposed to meet Biggins soon for coffee and cake at SP. He told me about another massage place around the corner from the hotel. After our coffee we took a walk over and he got a massage. I wound up passing on it as there was only one masseuse on duty. Went back to the hotel instead, took a dip in the pool and relaxed until dinner. Met Biggins at Bailey's; had the fish platter which was very good, portion was large and the fish was well prepared.
After dinner while walking to the casino I met a cute and very skinny SW; got her number for later. Won enough to cover a ST and a few rounds of drinks, Biggins lost about 400 p. Messaged the skinny girl as we entered Rumbas and as soon as we sat down I spied another skinny girl who I thought was very attractive. Got her number and told her some BS excuse about my friend and needing a bit of time to discuss some business. After 30 minutes I got no reply from the first girl, so I switched to plan be. Within minutes the other skinny girl was at my side. In the meantime Biggins had been chatting up a girl he found. My girls's English was not too great, so with Biggins' help we I negotiated TLN with the girl; 2,500 p all holes open. Had a good time with her that night, took a bit to get her to relax enough to take her anally, but once we got going she came twice in rapid succession.
Pic: Manicure / Pedicure place (on Dr. Rosen, just down from Rumbas); Casa Cayena.
Pip Jaeger
11-20-15, 07:16
Wingman picked me up and went back to sosua. Couldn't get out of FOD soon enough. Checked into El Rancho. Decent room at 50 USD per night; smallish safe, window type ac, comfy bed and good food at reasonable prices. German owned.
After getting settled in the room went with Biggins to the beach. Met up with another guy who's friends with Biggins. We all wanted fish, but what was offered at the first place didn't look too good (frozen and not what either of us wanted). Decided to go back to booth 151 for some excellent ribs. After we ate we met up with 2 cute chicas. As we needed a third chica one of them called her cousin. Cousin was goddess; 6' tall, thin, curvy and very cute. She turned out to be a starfish, but it was pleasant to have those mile long legs wrapped around my around shoulders. Did a ST with her and took nap (sucks getting old, LOL). Met up with Ann later and decided to wife up with her for the rest of my stay. So not much more to report as mostly did some regular tourist stuff for the balance of my trip.
Overall I had good time and will most likely return, but only for brief visits when I need a break and don't have enough time to make a run to the Phils. About the only negative thing I could say would be that I'm into more of a GFE experience and without any language skills I was limited to mostly ST encounters. And before anyone jumps down my throat, I do realize that I was in Sosua and it's more about sport fucking there then other places, but I guess I had expected more. I'm sure that in other areas what I sought could be found. On the plus side it's like shooting fish in a barrel and anything can be found, light to dark skinned and skinny to obese (lots of those to choose from, LOL); whatever your tastes are it's there for the picking. About language; for anyone thinking about visiting, don't let a lack of Spanish put you off. Although my wingman did speak fluent Spanish and he helped me out, there were plenty of times where I was on my own and had no issues what so ever.
Finally I wish to extend my heartfelt thanks to those members who graciously offered their advice to this DR newb and who regularly offer it to all those who ask; you know who you are.
Pics: Hotel El Rancho (note the Laundry place next store; two large bags, same day service if brought in before 9 am or so was 250 p); German Style breakfast at the hotel (290 p);.
Pip Jaeger
11-20-15, 07:20
Damn. Don't know what happened, maybe tried to upload too much at once (and of course in my haste I closed all the open tabs). Will try to upload the missing reports again. Hope it works this time. Sorry as they'll now be out of order.
Pip Jaeger
11-20-15, 07:44
The driver asked if I liked sugar cane juice and if I've ever had it. Being from south Florida I of course knew of it, but it was something I have not had in years so I jumped at the chance to get some. Minutes later he pulled up to a roadside stand and for a whopping 30 p per 16 oz cup we had some of this delicious nectar. If you've never had it, it's worth a try and it's not a sweet as you might think (my great Aunt used to prepare it with a few Key Limes squeezed in or some fresh mint leaves; my great uncle always added some Pusser's rum; thinking of it is making my mouth water now for some as I write this).
It was a nice ride, traffic was light and before I knew it we were pulling up in front of Casa Cayena. By 2 pm I was unpacked and settled into my room. I went out to get some bottled water and some snacks. On the way back, about 100 meters from hotel, I was approached by a stunning looking slender dark skinned chica. We agreed on 1 k for ST. After our session I took a short nap and then met up with my wingman at place called Schnitzel Paradise (SP) for dinner. My wingman, who I'll call Biggins (as he's quite. , well let's say he rather corpulent and leave it at that, LOL), has been coming to the DR for years. He speaks good Spanish and in addition, like me, he's also fluent in German. That came in handy a few times when we were with chicas and wanted to devise a plan or had something to say that we didn't want them to know about, LOL.
Biggins is friends with the owner of SP so it was like old ho's week when he arrived (he had just flown into the DR that day). Dinner was excellent; Schnitzel (of course, LOL) and some freshly homemade Spaetzle. After dinner we strolled up the casino. We played black jack for about an hour or so, I lost about 500 p and Biggins won about 2 K. The casino is pretty laid back and of course they'll serve you whatever you want to drink at no extra charge as long as you're playing. What's neat was that they will let you take your drink with you when you leave. Just ask the doorman near the exit for a plastic cup and he'll gladly give you one.
Pics: Cane juice vendor; Casa Cayena.
By then was about 9:30 pm so we walked to Rumbas. The place nearly full of chicas in all shapes, sizes and colors; and this was on a Monday. There must have been well over 200 girls there, but very few guys. Maybe 5-6. Biggins knows the bouncers there, so one of them cleared away a group of chicas from a table near the entrance. The waitress came over with 2 shots of some stuff called "Mama Juana". For those unfamiliar with it, it's a drink made up of rum, red wine (usually a sweet wine I was told) and honey that poured into a bottle filled with various herbs and tree bark. It's allowed to steep for a few days or perhaps even weeks (the longer the better I was also told) and typically served at room temp in shot glasses. The taste reminded me a bit of port wine, but not as sweet, but more of a slight bite from the rum and just hint of cinnamon. Reportedly it's supposed to both an aphrodisiac and a local cure all remedy for whatever ails you. I found it to be quite good, but after a few shots it does sneak up on you!
A local guy who's friends with Biggins came by and hung out with us. He owns a taxi (van) and his prices are quite reasonable (seniors can PM me for his name and number). His English is decent too for those who don't speak Spanish.
A few girls came over to try to push themselves onto us, but I'm not into fat girls, or those with the giant asses, and that's what the majority of the girls in the immediate vicinity were like. Biggins suggested I take a stroll thru the club and if seen something I liked then just invite her to join us. I took his suggestion and near the back I spotted a rather tall (about 5'9") and very skinny girl I had seen earlier on the street as we were walking to the casino. I intro'd myself in my halting Spanish and motioned for her to follow me back to the table. When I arrived Biggins had already found another girl, or I should say one of his regulars found him. She was a dark skinned beauty, but a little too thick in the ass for me. After a few rounds and after negotiating with my skinny girl, Biggins and I settled the tab and we headed to our respective hotels.
The session with the skinny girl was ok, nice BBBJ and after being with so many short Pinay spinners it was a treat to have those long legs wrapped around my shoulders and her rubbing my back with her feet as I licked her pussy.
Pip Jaeger
11-20-15, 07:51
I woke up to the skinny girl grinding her tight little ass against my cock, so I just slipped it right into her already wet pussy for another session. After we cleaned up took her to breakfast at the hotel (cost was an extra 250 p) It was funny as another guy who was there with his wife was eyeballing my chica. His wife busted him for which he got a firm slap up the side of his head. Being married to a DR lady I figured he would have learned by now that Latinas can be prone to sudden acts of intense violence, LOL.
After breakfast the girl left and I went for a massage at the place where Biggins showed me yesterday. Good massage, no extras on site, but most likely would be available at hotel.
After the massage and a quick shower back at the hotel I met up with Biggins and we went to beach area. It was fairly quiet, but there were a few lookers. Got a number from an attractive, slender yet very curvy girl, who I met up with later for ST (1 K).
As we were walking Biggins asked I was up something to eating a plate of ribs. I mentioned Rocky's and that I had read they had good ribs. He of course kew of them too, but said the place we were going was far better. We wound up and a Scandinavian place, Booth 151, and he wasn't kidding. Best ribs I've had in long time; large portion was 550 p, comes with choice of potato and salad. Tom, the owner, goes weekly to Santiago to select his own meat from a wholesale butcher / importer of prime Brazilian and US beef. He prepares his and cooks his ribs using a dry rub of various spices and serves them with some homemade BBQ sauce that's neither too sweet nor too tangy.
After our meal we sat, chatted a while and continued to admire the "scenery". As it was quite warm and humid I went for a swim in the crystal clear water to cool off. That area of the beach is very clean. From there we headed to SP for some great coffee and freshly made Tiramisu. As we were finishing up one of Biggins' old regulars strolled by. He wound up taking for ST and I had already messaged the one I met earlier to meet me near my hotel.
The session with her wasn't anything special. She was a bit of a starfish and complained after we were done that she was hungry. I guess she expected me to take her for dinner. I told her I already had other plans and before I could offer her a little extra to get some food she demanded a 500 p tip (on top the 1 k we had agreed upon) so she could eat and for bus fare back to PP. Even though her service wasn't great, I had planned to give her small tip for bus / concho fare and for food, but when she turned bitchy and started to get demanding I gave her the 1 K and told her to leave. She started to argue, but I cut her off and told her I'd call security. I guess she didn't want to risk getting banned from the hotel so she merely stormed out. I discretely followed to be sure she really left and that she didn't try to pull some crap at the front desk when she retrieved her Cedula. At the front desk she only asked for her Cedula and left quietly.
Later I met up with Biggins at the Casino. We played black jack for about an hour; each of us wo about 3,000 p. Biggins was hungry again so we went to Sinatra's. It was too late for the 2 for 1 special (ends at 8 pm). I had the sea bass in white cream and taragon sauce. It was excellent! Biggins is friends with the owner of Sinatra's, Steve, and when Steve seen us he came right over. Man that guy can really talk your ear off! He's a nice enough guy, but he's also a legend in his own mind, LOL. Next time anyone see's him singing tell him he sounds a little like Rod Stewart; you'll be his best friend for life, LOL.
After dinner we strolled down to Rumbas. Biggins only wanted a blanco chica that night. As we got near entrance I seen a smoking hot chica. Tall, morena, thin yet curvy, a nice rack on small frame and a killer little bubble butt. Just as I was about to say something to Biggens about her, the girl lets out a small shriek, runs up and throws her arms around him. Yep, one his regulars, LOL, he introduces me to her (I'll call her Ann, not her real name) and she flashes me a thousand watt smile. They converse in half Spanish and half English. She wants to go with him, but he's declining. Too dark he tells me in German (he's insistent on a blanco) and he also tells me she's an honor student at, not a regular there and she's very very picky who she goes with (not too old, not too young as they're cheap and she's heard they're often rough, no blacks or locals, not too muscular as she's also heard they can be rough and not too fat or big in stature as she thinks all big guys have big dicks and they would tear up her tight little pussy, LOL).
Biggins tells me that maybe she's a plan be if he doesn't find a blanco. I tell him he's fucking crazy to say no to that. We talk some more and he says if I want her I can have her as it would get her off his back. She had already asked about me and was interested. Biggins tells her I'm an ok guy, that I don't hurt girls and that I have a small dick so I won't tear up her pussy, LOL. About the same time I saw a very cute and very blanco chica walk in. I motion to Biggins who goes nuts when he sees her as she's exactly his type and exactly what he was looking for. Ann see's his reaction and sets off to talk to the girl. Within minutes she back with her. We start drinking, the girls are dancing, both together and giving us lap dances; it was a fun night, which only got better when Ann and I got back to the hotel. Talk about high energy sex, she about killed me.
Pics: Rib place; some other beach "scenery".
Pip Jaeger
11-20-15, 07:52
Ann and I had previously agreed on ST as she had an 8 am class in PP, but she wound up falling asleep in my arms. As is my habit I was up early and got her up early enough to get to class, but only after one more quick round (who am I to argue with a beautiful chica she asks for sex?, LOL). We agreed to meet up later in the afternoon and spend the night together again.
After Ann left I decided that I needed a massage. The work out last night left me sore in places I never knew existed. I went back to the place where I got the manicure and asked about outcall with a chica I seen there the other day. A bit older, but very attractive. I was told no problem, 1,500 pesos. I said the other girl, Wendy, quoted me 1,000 pesos the other day. I was told she made a mistake as the price is 1,500 p. I opted to pass and just went back to the hotel to swim and relax by the pool as well reflect on last night, which was the highlight of my trip; at least so far.
Ann flaked out on me saying she had to help her mom with something. As I was leaving the next day for FOD I told her I'd see her Sunday when I got back to Sosua.
Met Biggins at SP, initially for just coffee and cake, but as it stated to heavily rain we ate dinner there and waited for rain to slacken. Another one of Biggin's regulars stopped by and he took her for ST. We agreed to meet up later at Rumbas. I just went back to my room and took a short power nap. Rumbas was off to a slow start due to the rain, but by 9:30 or so it was in high gear. Biggins grabbed a curvy blanco chica, a bit large in the ass for me, but each to their own. I had my eye on a couple others, and was about to invite a small skinny Haitian girl over, when in walks a smoking hot chica. She the school teacher look going on; conservative type top, jeans and large presciption glasses (real ones, not the fakes some girls wear to attain that look). She makes a be line for the toilet then afterwards sits at a table nearby and begins to furiously text someone. A few guys approached but she waived them off. I figured she was meeting someone so I ignored her and turned my attention back to the other 200 or so girls. About 10 minutes later the school teacher walks by and it turns out she friends with Biggins' girl. I guess I passed muster as she joined us; much to the chargin of some of the other guys who had tried hitting on her. She speaks very good English and tells me she a student at a uni in Santiago and only a part timer in Sosua. We sealed the deal for TLN (3 K) and after a few drinks went back to the room. She was freshly waxed so it was the smoothest and softest pussy I've licked in a long time; a very tasty treat.
Continued in the FOD thread
I agree completely!
This makes 2 in a row from my old adversaries, Oldkool and MrGG.
Something's changed here, as I could have posted this stuff (probably did), years ago. :)
Anyway, whatever, welcome to the Sosua puta appreciation society.Nothings changed friend, you always had guys open to new experiences and others that live in a time warp. A guy once told me that the board has a short memory and everyone has an expiration date on the board, which some guys over stay. Its always been about helping the newbie through our adventures but nowadays the newbies wants our advice but they still do it their way and have to grow that way.
Pip Jaeger great reporting dude, much appreciated.
Great advice and info guys.
We are definitely looking to monger. We are all on the same page. After all your advice we are looking to book a home in Sosua. We want to be able to enjoy the home during the day and possibly bring girls over. Then hit the strip at night.
Will keep you guys posted.
I will look into hispanoliarealestate.
ThanksYou might check with the New Garden hotel. I'm sure someone here knows more about it, but I believe they have a separate hotel with its own pool, right across the street. Not sure what the facilities are like, but it puts you right in the action.
Wingman picked me up and went back to sosua. Couldn't get out of FOD soon enough. Checked into El Rancho. Decent room at 50 USD per night; smallish safe, window type ac, comfy bed and good food at reasonable prices. German owned.
After getting settled in the room went with Biggins to the beach. Met up with another guy who's friends with Biggins. We all wanted fish, but what was offered at the first place didn't look too good (frozen and not what either of us wanted). Decided to go back to booth 151 for some excellent ribs. After we ate we met up with 2 cute chicas. As we needed a third chica one of them called her cousin. Cousin was goddess; 6' tall, thin, curvy and very cute. She turned out to be a starfish, but it was pleasant to have those mile long legs wrapped around my around shoulders. Did a ST with her and took nap (sucks getting old, LOL). Met up with Ann later and decided to wife up with her for the rest of my stay. So not much more to report as mostly did some regular tourist stuff for the balance of my trip.
Overall I had good time and will most likely return, but only for brief visits when I need a break and don't have enough time to make a run to the Phils. About the only negative thing I could say would be that I'm into more of a GFE experience and without any language skills I was limited to mostly ST encounters. And before anyone jumps down my throat, I do realize that I was in Sosua and it's more about sport fucking there then other places, but I guess I had expected more. I'm sure that in other areas what I sought could be found. On the plus side it's like shooting fish in a barrel and anything can be found, light to dark skinned and skinny to obese (lots of those to choose from, LOL); whatever your tastes are it's there for the picking. About language; for anyone thinking about visiting, don't let a lack of Spanish put you off. Although my wingman did speak fluent Spanish and he helped me out, there were plenty of times where I was on my own and had no issues what so ever.
Finally I wish to extend my heartfelt thanks to those members who graciously offered their advice to this DR newb and who regularly offer it to all those who ask; you know who you are.
Pics: Hotel El Rancho (note the Laundry place next store; two large bags, same day service if brought in before 9 am or so was 250 p); German Style breakfast at the hotel (290 p);.Excellent reports. For future visits, just past the laundry place, the little massage place does a good massage for 600 p. They'll finish you for 1000 p, but definitely YMMV. Probably best to see if take out is available, as I don't think the bedding on the tables gets changed often.
Charles Pooter
11-20-15, 13:29
I wasn't aware there were two sizes of "El Presidente" Actually there are three: normal (usually called "pequena") grande, and jumbo.
Anyone else think the taste of Presidente has worsened over recent years?
Stopped at a money changer, place called Rosas I think.
RUSA (in all capital letters). There are three branches in Pto Pta (on the main road, corner of Padre Granero), in 12 de Julio (near the Amber Museum), and a new one in 27 Febrero. Very reliable changers with good rates. Does this company exist outside Pto Pta?
Charles Pooter
11-20-15, 14:42
Super reports. Really give the flavor of what it is like to those pondering a first visit.
I am glad Pip was not too idle to divide his reports around the appropriate sections. It is bit confusing because he messed up the order, but well worth making the effort to read them all in day order. The FoD report is very valuable and amalgamates all the different negative remarks which guys have made into one review. You would have to be mad to stay there now after Pip's review, and for non-resident visits it is even worse value. Amazing how quickly Dominicans can fuck something up if left to their own devices. Let's hope Blackbeards finds a good buyer or those needing that type of vacation will be fucked.
One point for intending first-timers to bear in mind if they are on a tight budget. Pip was in the fortunate position to splash the cash. Those without his budget might not be able to achieve all he did, or would have to work a lot harder at it. Threesome are not cheap. (They do not give quantity discounts). On the other hand, he does not speak Spanish. Those who do might be able to negotiate better. (2000 pesos for a taxi to Sosua? WTF?
Having said that, the actual prices he paid the chicas were very fair. I suspect he is a reasonably attractive guy, not like most of us decrepit old farts.
He only mentions one haitiana, and passed on her. Oh well.
Charles Pooter
11-20-15, 14:53
... a compromise might be to stay at Field of Dreams. Sosua is only a couple of dollars and 25 minutes away by public transport which runs 24/7. You could go into Sosua to do whatever you want to do. You could pick up girls there and do them in Sosua in Dulce Secreto or take the back to Field of Dreams. If you fail to find a chica in Sosua you would have the Field of Dreams girls to fall back on.
There are downsides to Field of Dreams so read the posts in that section first.I was wrong to post even this very tentative recommendation for Field of Dreams. After reading Pip Jaeger's new report in the FoD section I can only advise everyone to avoid the dump. It seems to have sunk to a new low.
Pip Jaeger
11-20-15, 21:04
Excellent reports. For future visits, just past the laundry place, the little massage place does a good massage for 600 p. They'll finish you for 1000 p, but definitely YMMV. Probably best to see if take out is available, as I don't think the bedding on the tables gets changed often.Thanks. I had a look inside at the one you mentioned and passed by it several times a day. With one exception, I just didn't like the way the girls looked there and felt the same about the the place's cleanliness.
The MP I mentioned is just around the corner on Dr. Alejo Martinez. Called La Prima #2, clean, fresh sheets, and professional type table.
Pip Jaeger
11-20-15, 21:19
Super reports. SNIP One point for intending first-timers to bear in mind if they are on a tight budget. Pip was in the fortunate position to splash the cash. SNIPThanks CP. You make a good point about budgets. Although I'm careful with my money, I'm not what you would typically label a budget traveler. I work hard and play hard, LOL.
2000 pesos for a taxi to Sosua? WTF? Failed to mention that the driver is a career army officer with a family. Someone who's worth extending a bit of good will to; Karma. I was told P1,000-,1500 was what he would normally accept (day time less and late nights more, hence the spread).
Having said that, the actual prices he paid the chicas were very fairThat's where RTFF came into play. Some did try to hit me for more, but forewarned is forearmed.
He only mentions one haitiana, and passed on her. Oh well.Passed on that one, but did have a couple of others. It's all pink on the inside, LOL.
I want to start by thanking everyone who post on these threads for all the great information.
With that being said, I am planing a trip to DR in January with some high school buddies. I have been to Santo Domingo on my own about 3 years ago and had a great time. I was there for about 3-1/2 weeks.
I want to take my buddies to with Puerto Plata, Sosua or Cabarete. I friend of mine who frequents DR quite a bit said I should stay in Cabarete. I concerned there will not be enough talent in this area.
We are looking for top notch ladies. It is there first time in DR and I want it to be a memorable time. What do you guys think? We are planning on renting a luxury home (5 Bedroom).
I would go to Santiago because I know the girls are beautiful there but we are looking for a beach town.
Thanks in advance.I ride out with a group of friends a lot. So here are some things you need to think about. KNOW your group. Get the fellas together and talk about the places. Do you guys want a chica per day. Do you want chicas ST or TLN. What is the highest each is willing to pay? Do you want to party in a group together or take your chicas away solo. Charles advice on keying in one 1 chica and letting her call all her girls is straight out of my book. I get them all together and tell them I have all the money. My friends only have tip money. At the end of the day I pay everybody and the coordinating chica get an extra tip. If there is a problem with 1 chica all the chicas with get a 500 peso cut. You want problems bring a group of different chicas that don't click to your nice place and watch the fireworks! Remember if you are far away from the action and everyone came together; its going to be hard to have chicas and guys (10 people) to ride to and fro the house. Chicas will want to leave at different times. You are going to have to coordinate with a set price with another cab for pick up time. I tell them they can all leave together in the cab we provide or their on transportation in the morning.
A casa in Caberete is good if you have your own security who knows what up. I would tell him he handles all the problems and if everything goes well propina for him and the end. Caberete is relaxing and smooth hunting. Its not for the frat boy type of mongering. Its for mongers that don't need to see 200 plus chicas. Maybe 25-50 doable ones. The chicas and not pushing you to go to your place after 30 seconds of conversing. You can hit the nice beach bars there and the talent is less problematic. If a few guys are late bloomers they can always just shoot to Sosua for a back of plan. When you take most chicas away from their working area they are less problematic. It better for quality and not quantity. Most chica will jump at the opportunity to come and chill with you in Caberete.
A place in Sosua limits you to mostly Sosua chicas. You are not going to meet a group of chicas out side of Sosua that's willing to go back with you to Sosua. The layout is simple. The volume of chicas are high. I wouldn't say top notch chicas but they can give to some top notch prices. If you get a place by the strip; a lot of coordinating with 5 guys is out the window. Just park the car at the place, explain the layout; and everyone for themselves. You can do the frat boy partying at our place every day with a different bunch of unscreened street chicas. Going back and forth with a different chica for ST is the MO in Sosua.
All in all you must know your group! You are going to be the quarterback. Control your team's objective. Low scoring defense or high scoring offense!
When I was with a group of 8 of my boys and they were all and happy saying "what country should we do next". "Grownman take us to Cuba with you". I told them " if yall think I would taking all yall asses with me any place other than Sosua / BC- I will be a fat Gorilla ass.
Sosua is alive and doing well!
Putas every damn where!
Sosua is alive and doing well!
Putas every damn where!At La Rumba between 11 and 12 tonight, it was at least 3-4 chicas to each dude. But the cops were out in full force as well.
Grandnash84
11-21-15, 07:49
At La Rumba between 11 and 12 tonight, it was at least 3-4 chicas to each dude. But the cops were out in full force as well.Were they doing sweeps on the chicas?
Were they doing sweeps on the chicas?I was at on the strip from 9 to 12 Friday night, my eyes must have been blinded by all those hot flaquitas because I did not see a muchos polices.
Were they doing sweeps on the chicas?I was eating outside Rumbas and I saw at least 4 chicas go by on police motorcycles. They were the same girls I saw earlier in Rumbas.
It seems Rumbas and the bars close by are a safe haven.
I will find out more tonight.
Nothings changed friend, you always had guys open to new experiences and others that live in a time warp. A guy once told me that the board has a short memory and everyone has an expiration date on the board, which some guys over stay. Its always been about helping the newbie through our adventures but nowadays the newbies wants our advice but they still do it their way and have to grow that way.
Pip Jaeger great reporting dude, much appreciated.I agree about expiration dates.
If you check my posts, I mostly show up when folks are complaining about Sosua. I want newbies to have the same kind of open minded fun that I have down there.
Let 'em turn into jaded mongers later if they want to.
I'll also come out to point out all the wasted flame wars here when my old adversaries are posting the same damned advice they crucified me for, like they just found religion.
Other than that, as long as there are positive reports, like the great ones lately, I'm content to be a lurker.
Were they doing sweeps on the chicas?I was at the beach for 3+ hours today. The girls were out and the cops were not.
I learned today that Tommy at my favorite beach restaurant has cancer; a sad day indeed.
Grandnash84
11-22-15, 01:09
I was at the beach for 3+ hours today. The girls were out and the cops were not.
Cool thanks for the update, headed down in 2 weeks!
I was at the beach for 3+ hours today. The girls were out and the cops were not.
I learned today that Tommy at my favorite beach restaurant has cancer; a sad day indeed.You mean Tom from Scandinavian Bar?
You mean Tom from Scandinavian Bar?Yes, it appears he has lung cancer.
Yes, it appears he has lung cancer.Too bad. I met him on my very first visit to the beach in 2003 and have eaten there often since then. Hope he beats it.
Too bad. I met him on my very first visit to the beach in 2003 and have eaten there often since then. Hope he beats it.Great chow there! The place is up for sale, I agree, I hope he beats it. He hired a another cook because he is very weak. Bill, helps him put his tables out in the mornings.
On an another note, does anyone have any good info on the new BBQ place across the street of that crappy NY pizza place?
Originally posted by Grownman1:
Charles advice on keying in one 1 chica and letting her call all her girls is straight out of my book. I get them all together and tell them I have all the money. My friends only have tip money. At the end of the day I pay everybody and the coordinating chica get an extra tip. If there is a problem with 1 chica all the chicas with get a 500 peso cut. You want problems bring a group of different chicas that don't click to your nice place and watch the fireworks! Remember if you are far away from the action and everyone came together; its going to be hard to have chicas and guys (10 people) to ride to and fro the house. Chicas will want to leave at different times. You are going to have to coordinate with a set price with another cab for pick up time. I tell them they can all leave together in the cab we provide or their on transportation in the morning. However when you do this, although perhaps you have not thought about it, you are putting yourself at risk of running foul of the DR pimping / pandering laws. I am not suggesting that the Puerto Plata prosecuting attorney is likely to come after you, but you might be setting yourself up for a shakedown by local cops if one of the girls feels she is not getting a fair deal. The whole scenario depicted also assumes that there is one alpha male and four betas who will just be grateful to take the scraps from the great man's table.
The OP stated 1. This is a group of 5 high school friends. 2. They want upper level girls. 3. They want to rent a large luxury home. 4. They want to be at the beach. 5. He is Spanish. 6. He was in Santo Domingo three years ago and stayed for three and a half weeks.
Based on this information this is an affluent group who are some years out of college and all have decent jobs with disposable income, the ability to coordinate vacation schedules, and a lack of other commitments such as wives, girlfriends, and children.
Whether any of them are prepared to take settle for leftovers chosen by someone else is something that we could not possibly know.
People change in the years after high school. In high school common interests are being of the same age, studying in the same classes, playing on the same sports teams, living in the same neighborhood, having common acquaintances, such as the same teachers, shopping in the same stores, knowing each other's families, and so on. A few years after college personalities diverge. My recommendation would still be to enjoy the vacation treats that the DR offers together as a group as rebonding exercises, for example windsurfing, excursions, fishing trips, but split up individually or maybe in pairs when looking for chicas, and then just go with the flow.
Pip Jaeger
11-22-15, 14:46
SNIPOn an another note, does anyone have any good info on the new BBQ place across the street of that crappy NY pizza place?Very good! I had the pork steak special and my chica had the chicken. Large portions that were well prepared. The pork steak was very tender and had nice light smoky flavor.
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