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Actually I heard it first time from my Peruvian girlfriend and now you made me think that I never heard Spaniards to use it. But it still sounds good. Yes, we must have checked the word from the same place. Wasn't sure if it is same form in masculine and feminine.And I'm not saying "YOU ARE WRONG!" not at all.
Maybe the form used in Peru. If a Mexican says something is "muy padre" most of us would have no clue what that meant.
Yes, the website says its both Masculine and Feminine. I think I'd confirm that with another source.
Thanks for raising the issue, the discussion is of benefit. (Yeah, I admit, this would be better on a Spanish language thread).
Otra vez, Gracias.
You can take Spanish nouns and "augment" them by adding -on, -ona, or -ote. So a quejona is a great big complainer. OTOH, you make nouns similar ("diminution") by adding other suffixes. In most places, -ito and -ita are used. We've probably all heard "muy chiquito" from the chicas when we take our pants off. Chico = small, chiquito = smaller. However, other suffixes can be used, including -ico and -ica. So to me, quejica would mean a little tiny complainer, or perhaps someone with many small complaints.
The fact that Costa Ricans are very prone to using -ico and -ica, versus the more widespread -ito and -ita, is why costarriqueños are nicknamed 'ticos. '.
Shout out to Mr. Tomjackin for single handedly reminding everyone what the Sosua Reports thread is about. Take me off your list my man. LOL And to Mr. GoGo who made the following report possible.
Into the room and Chapiadora hits the shower. Comes out in a towel covering her bottom half but her bustier still on. What the what? Must be some false advertising going on is my thoughts. Good thing I'm not a breast man. She lies down crosswise on the bed and says "Dame algo" (Give me something). What the what? "Como?" I say. She says it again. Like what? Is my response. Give me clothes like a dress, give me shoes, give me earrings, give me perfume, where is my gift? Ah nah, the Cmdr got worked in the bar. Houston we have a problem. But I'm standing there alone in the room. Got to handle my business on my own this time. I tell her. I got nothing for ya. She starts in on that again and I'm like let's get started. The sooner we get started the sooner you can get out of here and find someone who has a gift for you. Now, I think I'm going to have a problem with performance out of this one. But I'm wrong. The problem is endurance. She can't take no dick. And she hurting herself because just when I'm about to give her the only gift I have (the gift of leche) she gets tired of the position and wants to change.
Fade to black (roll outo music).I don't quite understand why she would come out asking for gifts. Why would she even think that she had something coming to her besides the agreed price.
I like this report. It has your own Sub flavor. If everyone wrote the report the same this site wouldn't be what it is.
Tempoecorto
05-24-16, 20:01
Among other things I learned a new word, chapiadora. After googling it, I added the word to my vocabulary. Thx to you, when somebody's talks about chapiadoras, I don't have to say "no comprende".Chapiadora was first given to us by Boricuaonline and I presume it is a typical DR expression, IE. , may not be a Puerto Rican but I do not know. On Quejar (to complain / whine) etc, my personal favorite is "Jodon" or "Jodona". It very accurately reflects what the Spanish mean, when they use "Joder", and that too, rather generously.
Chapiadora was first given to us by Boricuaonline and I presume it is a typical DR expression, IE. , may not be a Puerto Rican but I do not know. On Quejar (to complain / whine) etc, my personal favorite is "Jodon" or "Jodona". It very accurately reflects what the Spanish mean, when they use "Joder", and that too, rather generously.Minor point.
Just for a group FYI, "joder" is also slang for "to screw. " But you can also use a vulgar expression. "No me joda!" (Don't bother / screw with me! The first time I heard the expression, all the "nice" ladies present acted shocked.
Second, using the word "chiquito", (very small).
The word "chiquito" is also Colombian slang for the a $$hole.
Tempoecorto
05-25-16, 02:07
Just for a group FYI, "joder" is also slang for "to screw. That is quite right and the funny thing is that the Dominicans, at least those that I know, do not know that in Spain, the word "joder" means what it means and so they are rather amused by such a "regular" word (for them, as in Jodon. Pain in the neck) having the double-entendre. The Mexicans on the other hand like to "coger". Actually the vocab for related words in the Hispanophone lands, is rather rich.
That is quite right and the funny thing is that the Dominicans, at least those that I know, do not know that in Spain, the word "joder" means what it means and so they are rather amused by such a "regular" word (for them, as in Jodon. Pain in the neck) having the double-entendre. The Mexicans on the other hand like to "coger". Actually the vocab for related words in the Hispanophone lands, is rather rich."Tirar" in Colombia, "singar" in DR.
"Tirar" in Colombia, "singar" in DR.Be careful with tirar, as in tiro, for it also could mean gunshot. Ex: "Se oyo un tiro!" (I heard a gunshot). The last thing you want is to tell the chica that you want to screw her and before you know it she is running down the street, away from you, because she thinks you are going to shoot her.
Be careful with tirar, as in tiro, for it also could mean gunshot. Ex: "Se oyo un tiro!" (I heard a gunshot). The last thing you want is to tell the chica that you want to screw her and before you know it she is running down the street, away from you, because she thinks you are going to shoot her.Yes, it depends on the context. But would anybody hear a f*ck?
One story about a gringo who wanted to say he was going to throw somebody out into the street. "Yo voy tirarlo en la calle. ".
The Colombians present laughed and asked him why he wanted to f*ck the guy in the street.
For throwing something or someone out, I'd use echar and not tirar.
For all the new guys who prefer or have to pay with credit cards. They are accepted in Sosua very well but when you get out of bigger areas you will have guys tell you that they take visa then when finished pumping gas they will run your card and it will say declined when you know it is good these people will then tell you where you can take cash off your card and that you can leave your wife or girl friend with them while you go get cash. I had 2 different places pull the same stuff in 1 day the 1st a gas station the 2nd a hotel. I called visa and ask if they seen any transactions being tried and they said no that probably the hotel just wanted cash and the gas station. In short when out of town take cash.
For the new guys who think you can drive better than most well you probably can and you have probably driven in New York city sin problems but I am here to tell you driving the DR is 1 in its own. Be very careful and always think speed bump.
For the new guys who think you can drive better than most well you probably can and you have probably driven in New York city sin problems but I am here to tell you driving the DR is 1 in its own. Be very careful and always think speed bump.Good advice, along with your post on credit cards.
For a hassle free vacation, never use a credit card in the DR, and never rent a car or motocycle. Use an ATM card only at a major bank.
Good advice, along with your post on credit cards.
For a hassle free vacation, never use a credit card in the DR, and never rent a car or motocycle. Use an ATM card only at a major bank.I never use a credit card. Cash is King. I always rent a car. Advantages are mobility, ability to pick up girls anywhere, ability to take girls anywhere, visit lots of places etc. Stcking to the strip in Sosua is not a good option. Driving is not really bad now that all repairs are done and importance is placed on the road between Puerto Plata and Cabarete. Dominican Republic is crowded like some other countries where all the people are on the road. Only people you need to worry about are the Motor Bike drivers who weave in and out of traffic. If you are a reasonably good driver in USA and do not get rattled easily rent a car and explore your options. Rental maybe expensive for one person. Always het the full bumper to bumper warranty which is about $30 a day in addition to rental charges.
While in Sosua playing the role of sexual tourist one morning I went to breakfast. When it was time to pay the bill I realized I had left all my cash in the safe back in my hotel room. Fortunately for me they took credit / debit cards. I used mine. And I have had no problems with fraudulent charges on my account. I was having so much fun I needed more chica cash. So went to an ATM and drained my account so I could continue to drain my balls.
While in Santo Domingo I used a Popular ATM inside of an Ole. Although I didn't know this before I used it, it was a machine known for dispensing and incorrect amount of cash. Usually less than was requested. This happened to me when I used it. I contacted the bank that issued my card. They took a report. They told me that in order to remain a member in good standing of the system owners of the ATM's need to make accurate audits of their machines. They would send a request for an investigation of my transaction and if my claim was valid I would receive a credit to my account. I received my credit within 30 days without having to follow up with my bank.
Mr. GoGo drove. And although he had a few problems getting the rental vehicle initially. No problems except for crazy drivers and a political rally that blocked traffic for an hour. Nothing highly unusual for the Dominican Republic.
Just saying.
Alex Deuce
05-29-16, 15:09
For the new guys who think you can drive better than most well you probably can and you have probably driven in New York city sin problems but I am here to tell you driving the DR is 1 in its own. Be very careful and always think speed bump.Your ability to drive is meaningless; those other fools tho! I don't drive anywhere in DR anymore. I'll park and take a taxi. It's cheaper!
I never use a credit card. Cash is King. I always rent a car. Advantages are mobility, ability to pick up girls anywhere, ability to take girls anywhere, visit lots of places etc. Stcking to the strip in Sosua is not a good option. Driving is not really bad now that all repairs are done and importance is placed on the road between Puerto Plata and Cabarete. Dominican Republic is crowded like some other countries where all the people are on the road. Only people you need to worry about are the Motor Bike drivers who weave in and out of traffic. If you are a reasonably good driver in USA and do not get rattled easily rent a car and explore your options. Rental maybe expensive for one person. Always het the full bumper to bumper warranty which is about $30 a day in addition to rental charges.I see your point, but DR is the only place in the world where I don't rent a car. If I lived there, probably.
I have driven in NY, London, Paris, Rome, Milan, Berlin and managed OK, but somehow I feel more vulnerable to rip offs in the D.R. Spend time at the main corner of Pedro Cilante and watch them face off :)
I also like a couple of beers, so that's the main reason I don't drive down there. I don't need to find safe parking, check for scratches and anticipate the argument about damage when returning the car. I don't want to be responsible for a car.
I usually get a "cousin" to borrow/rent/steal one if I need to get around the Island in comfort. It's cheaper, and he'll pick us up wherever and whenever we need him.
Maybe it's age.
Sosua is the easiest place in the world to navigate. I drove in SD for a week. Now that was an experience. I have never felt the need to have a car in the DR since. I am not wining and dining these putas. I stay close enough to the action that I can walk. I go to Caberreti on the publico for 50 pesos. The only thing I rent in the DR are rooms and pussy. I was scammed once on a scooter and will never let that happen again.
I see your point, but DR is the only place in the world where I don't rent a car. If I lived there, probably.
I have driven in NY, London, Paris, Rome, Milan, Berlin and managed OK, but somehow I feel more vulnerable to rip offs in the D.R. Spend time at the main corner of Pedro Cilante and watch them face off :)
I also like a couple of beers, so that's the main reason I don't drive down there. I don't need to find safe parking, check for scratches and anticipate the argument about damage when returning the car. I don't want to be responsible for a car.
I usually get a "cousin" to borrow/rent/steal one if I need to get around the Island in comfort. It's cheaper, and he'll pick us up wherever and whenever we need him.
Maybe it's age.
Sosua is the easiest place in the world to navigate. I drove in SD for a week. Now that was an experience. I have never felt the need to have a car in the DR since. I am not wining and dining these putas. I stay close enough to the action that I can walk. I go to Caberreti on the publico for 50 pesos. The only thing I rent in the DR are rooms and pussy. I was scammed once on a scooter and will never let that happen again.Maybe driving in the DR is for the young and the fearless.
Taking a rental car back, always seemed to be chore to me. Gas up, wait in line to check have the car checked, finish the paper work, all that stuff. Takes time.
I figure down there they are still in the manual mode, and it does get hot.
My routine now is to have the GF pick me up and drop me off at the airport on her way back to her town. Nothing like coming through the line and seeing a smiling excited chica holding up a Presidente at that little AP bar. Let the fun begin!
Sosua is the easiest place in the world to navigate. I drove in SD for a week. Now that was an experience. I have never felt the need to have a car in the DR since. I am not wining and dining these putas. I stay close enough to the action that I can walk. I go to Caberreti on the publico for 50 pesos.Only a few weeks ago you were saying that you were meeting so many desirable partners online that you were thinking of staying in Santo Domingo and giving Sosua a miss. Now you seem to have reversed on that and decided that Santo Domingo is not worth bothering with. Care to explain the change of sentiment?
Parkinsons
05-30-16, 16:14
My routine now is to have the GF pick me up and drop me off at the airport on her way back to her town. Nothing like coming through the line and seeing a smiling excited chica holding up a . . .I thought you were going to say an 8 x 11 (A4 to you Brits) paper sign with your name on it "Papi Oakie" and that you make her wear a chauffeur's hat and white gloves.
Maybe driving in the DR is for the young and the fearless.
Taking a rental car back, always seemed to be chore to me. Gas up, wait in line to check have the car checked, finish the paper work, all that stuff. Takes time.
I figure down there they are still in the manual mode, and it does get hot.
My routine now is to have the GF pick me up and drop me off at the airport on her way back to her town. Nothing like coming through the line and seeing a smiling excited chica holding up a Presidente at that little AP bar. Let the fun begin!If you buy full insurance returning the car is a cinch. Cars are auto transmission. All cars are air conditioned. Downside of having a chica wait for you is you are stuck with her and she knows where you stay.
If you buy full insurance returning the car is a cinch. Cars are auto transmission. All cars are air conditioned. Downside of having a chica wait for you is you are stuck with her and she knows where you stay.You are talking about mi princessa of 8 years, who swears she is madly in love with me, and is generally all I need down there.
The car deal sounds trouble free, but then there's my love of Presidente Lite. I'd need a designated driver anyway.
I thought you were going to say an 8 x11 (A4 to you Brits) paper sign with your name on it "Papi Oakie" and that you make her wear a chauffeur's hat and white gloves.Close enough!
She dresses like she has just come from a disco, and calls me Santa Claus, LOL.
1000 pesos a month will feed one kid. That's right! I said 1000 pesos feeds one kid for a month. And you paying the chicas 1000 to 1500 pesos a fuck? You are helping feed her kids? Only if you are her first fuck of the month? I would like to know how you calculated this and what nutritional standards you consider to be reasonable.
I agree that rice is pretty cheap and older children can drink water, not juices or sodas, and fresh fruit is fairly cheap in the DR, but you say you can feed a child (age unspecified) for 1000 pesos a month, but one glass of milk daily or a small carton of chocolate milk would use up more than half of this budget of about US $0. 75 per day regardless of whether you buy ready made or the powders like Nido or Alpha plus that have added vitamins and minerals formulated for children. School lunches in the DR cost 100 pesos or more daily, so that alone could be 2000 pesos per month. [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131) are 15 pesos each if bought singly and a bit cheaper if bought in larger packs, but 2 or 3 per day would meet your 1000 pesos. How about health insurance and the cost of medications? A bottle of pediatric Augmentin is how much? I think about 400 pesos. A bottle of cough medicine? A copayment at the pediatrician office? And then there is the cost of childrens clothing, school uniforms, shoes, back-to-school supplies, and so on. Transportation to school in a guagua will run about 2000 pesos a month and not much cheaper using motoconchos. And then women may have to pay caregivers to mind the children while they work if they don't have mothers doing this.
Manizales911
06-05-16, 01:54
I would like to know how you calculated this and what nutritional standards you consider to be reasonable.
I agree that rice is pretty cheap and older children can drink water, not juices or sodas, and fresh fruit is fairly cheap in the DR, but you say you can feed a child (age unspecified) for 1000 pesos a month, but one glass of milk daily or a small carton of chocolate milk would use up more than half of this budget of about US $0. 75 per day regardless of whether you buy ready made or the powders like Nido or Alpha plus that have added vitamins and minerals formulated for children. School lunches in the DR cost 100 pesos or more daily, so that alone could be 2000 pesos per month. are 15 pesos each if bought singly and a bit cheaper if bought in larger packs, but 2 or 3 per day would meet your 1000 pesos. How about health insurance and the cost of medications? A bottle of pediatric Augmentin is how much? I think about 400 pesos. A bottle of cough medicine? A copayment at the pediatrician office? And then there is the cost of childrens clothing, school uniforms, shoes, back-to-school supplies, and so on. Transportation to school in a guagua will run about 2000 pesos a month and not much cheaper using motoconchos. And then women may have to pay caregivers to mind the children while they work if they don't have mothers doing this.I agree 100%. I lived with a girl and her child last year in Puerto Plata and there was no way I could feed him on 1000 pesos a month, not even close.
Parkinsons
06-05-16, 02:14
I agree 100%. I lived with a girl and her child last year in Puerto Plata and there was no way I could feed him on 1000 pesos a month, not even close.And if the child is an infant not yet toilet-trained, add at least 2000 pesos a month for Pampers and wipes. At La Sirena, they sell that stuff on par to the US, if not more.
Edit: Frannie mentioned this already actually. I called them Pampers and it was fine but he used dyapers and the word was banned.
Charles Pooter
06-05-16, 03:19
I agree 100%. I lived with a girl and her child last year in Puerto Plata and there was no way I could feed him on 1000 pesos a month, not even close.I live in Puerto Plata with my partner, her 7-year-old, and her (now) 16 month-old infant. I keep meticulous and detailed records of household spending and I can report that for his first 16 months we have spent just over 3000 pesos per month on him. A lot of his clothes are gifts or hand-me-downs from his elder brother and his mother makes good use of the free hospital services. His food does not cost much as he is just now being weaned. Most of the expense has been for routine medical checks and inoculations, medicines, pampers and accessories. Fortunately, he is very healthy and lives in a good environment. If, like many babies here, he lived somewhere damp, or dirty, or insect-infested, the medical bills might be a lot higher.
Tempoecorto
06-05-16, 05:30
I live in Puerto Plata with my partner, her 7-year-old, and her (now) 16 month-old infant.If what you three say is true, those that have a substantially longer and creditable experience, I take it there is an obnoxious and pompous contributor trying to preach his "reality". Banning him from the forum would not be such a bad idea, if nothing else, to avoid vile language for no good reason but for the sake of mouthing useless arguments and to display a spiteful temperament.
I live in Puerto Plata with my partner, her 7-year-old, and her (now) 16 month-old infant. I keep meticulous and detailed records of household spending and I can report that for his first 16 months we have spent just over 3000 pesos per month on him. A lot of his clothes are gifts or hand-me-downs from his elder brother and his mother makes good use of the free hospital services. His food does not cost much as he is just now being weaned. Most of the expense has been for routine medical checks and inoculations, medicines, pampers and accessories. Fortunately, he is very healthy and lives in a good environment. If, like many babies here, he lived somewhere damp, or dirty, or insect-infested, the medical bills might be a lot higher.If the child is being breast fed, there will be no charges at point of service, but you need to account for the cost of nutrients consumed by the mother for breast milk inputs.
Also you might like to look at your records to determine the cost of ownership for a 7-year old. You will need to include expenses like crayons, the cost of cleaning graffiti from walls, ice cream, and papitas.
I agree 100%. I lived with a girl and her child last year in Puerto Plata and there was no way I could feed him on 1000 pesos a month, not even close.Agreed. The notion of feeding a child for 1000 pesos a month is absurd.
Even surviving on (cooked) dry rice and beans, and water, if a kid eats more than once a day, (forget decent nutrition (vegetables, fruit) 1000RD /25 $US a month is not enough.
If you feed a kid like an Somali refugee you might scrape by.
When I do grocery shopping at La Sirena in Santiago (comparable to others in other cities) a couple of weeks worth of food, basics, runs about 7000 pesos ($155 US). Modest by US grocery standards, but illustrates that feeding a child for a month on 1000RD is nonsense.
VERY little in the DR is cheap by US standards, and when the peso devaluates (recall when it was around 30 or 35 to the dollar) the cost of everything rises. Wages do not.
If what you three say is true, those that have a substantially longer and creditable experience, I take it there is an obnoxious and pompous contributor trying to preach his "reality". Banning him from the forum would not be such a bad idea, if nothing else, to avoid vile language for no good reason but for the sake of mouthing useless arguments and to display a spiteful temperament.Better yet just do like I do and ignore him. When you see someone who is bent on self destruction and lies, even after you have tried to help them, let them live in their fantasy world. It's best to stay out their way and elevate above them to keep the negative karma from coming your way. No one wants to deal with him (except the women that he over-pays) so he uses this board as an outlet to get attention that most people won't give him as they get to know him. Just ignoring him forces him to have to deal with himself and continue his misery.
If what you three say is true, those that have a substantially longer and creditable experience, I take it there is an obnoxious and pompous contributor trying to preach his "reality". Banning him from the forum would not be such a bad idea, if nothing else, to avoid vile language for no good reason but for the sake of mouthing useless arguments and to display a spiteful temperament.Better yet just do like I do and ignore him. When you see someone who is bent on self destruction and lies, even after you have tried to help them, let them live in their fantasy world. It's best to stay out their way and elevate above them to keep the negative karma from coming your way. No one wants to deal with him (except the women that he over-pays) so he uses this board as an outlet to get attention that most people won't give him as they get to know him. Just ignoring him forces him to have to deal with himself and continue his misery.
In your reply, you jump all over the age spectrum in your estimate of costs and we both know they will differ dramatically depending on the specific age of the child. Since you desire to challenge my statement, I would like to see your age specific list of expenses for raising a child in the Dominican Republic at Dominican standards in pesos. Pick any age you would like. Give me your specific examples of how much it costs to feed your child or the child of someone you intimately know. Feel free to do this by PM if you don't want to reveal this private information in a public forum.
You have a valid point. You have pointed out that there are additional costs of raising a child (age unspecified) here in the Dominican Republic. But my post did not address those issues. I specifically addressed the costs of feeding a child. Here is what I wrote:When you are buying food for a family, it is almost impossible to quantify the exact amount of food bought for a single child at any specific age point, but you have claimed that a child can be fed for less than a dollar a day. I know of a child whose mother was paying around 2000 pesos per month for school lunches, so that is about 100 pesos per school day, so already double the amount that you state is the norm in the DR. The exact amount varied depending on exactly what she ate. It was no cheaper to pack lunches or snacks for the child to take to school.
But a small ice cream cone is about 30 pesos, a quart carton of milk is about 42 pesos, a small bottle of cold water is 10 pesos, a can of beans is 40 pesos, so how can you feed a child on about 33 pesos a day, which is what you say?
Since you have this certain knowledge that it only costs 1000 pesos per month to feed a child in the DR, I am sure there are lots of readers and lost of families who would like to know how this is done. If you can feed a child on 75 cents a day in the DR, you can probably do it on 50 cents per day in the US.
I realize you said this is just for food, and does not include other expenses of raising children, but I think that when girls say they need money to feed their children, they are just simplifying the whole story a bit to avoid going into details. If the chica's mother is taking care of the children, the chica is probably sending her money out of which the grandmother will also feed herself, buy [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131), milk formula, and other things the child needs. When a chica says she needs money for food for her children, that is not a promise to spend any funds received on absolutely nothing but nutrition for the child (ren).
Anyway, you have made this claim that a child in the DR can be fed on 1000 pesos a month, which is less than a dollar a day. Now please explain what this will buy for the child, so that we know you are not just bullshitting. You are the person on the ground who has this superior knowledge that we do not have. I, on the other hand have lived in the DR for more than 2 years (though I am not there now) and fed two children at various ages and do not see how one could feed a child on 1000 pesos per month even if you eliminated all luxuries and treats and minimized portions of proteins like chicken, fish, and eggs and fed the child mainly on rice and beans.
Share your knowledge with us, if you have any.
That guy won't respond because he was just talking out of his ass as usual. I wouldn't be surprised if he saw one of those commercials on TV (he never leaves his apartment) where they trick you into sending money to help feed the homeless kids. Two years living in SD and didn't know where Boca Chica was but claims to know everything Dominican. Apartment that leaks every time it rains. A big ass expensive gas guzzler to drive two blocks and back. Claims to be a photographer but most of his pictures are out of focus. Creates a forum about being a sugar daddy full time and deletes anyone who doesn't praise him. Frannie keeps exposing him as a fool and he still hasn't caught on. Never have a seen a 50+ guy so out of touch with reality. We had a great trip when he humbled himself and took it all in but as soon as he got back he was back to that weird guy.
Manizales911
06-06-16, 01:27
I live in Puerto Plata with my partner, her 7-year-old, and her (now) 16 month-old infant. I keep meticulous and detailed records of household spending and I can report that for his first 16 months we have spent just over 3000 pesos per month on him. A lot of his clothes are gifts or hand-me-downs from his elder brother and his mother makes good use of the free hospital services. His food does not cost much as he is just now being weaned. Most of the expense has been for routine medical checks and inoculations, medicines, pampers and accessories. Fortunately, he is very healthy and lives in a good environment. If, like many babies here, he lived somewhere damp, or dirty, or insect-infested, the medical bills might be a lot higher.So you will know very soon how expensive formula is, kids drink that stuff like it's going out of style.
Better yet just do like I do and ignore him. When you see someone who is bent on self destruction and lies, even after you have tried to help them, let them live in their fantasy world. It's best to stay out their way and elevate above them to keep the negative karma from coming your way. No one wants to deal with him (except the women that he over-pays) so he uses this board as an outlet to get attention that most people won't give him as they get to know him. Just ignoring him forces him to have to deal with himself and continue his misery.Okay I'm lost did I miss something.
That guy won't respond because he was just talking out of his ass as usual. I wouldn't be surprised if he saw one of those commercials on TV (he never leaves his apartment) where they trick you into sending money to help feed the homeless kids. Two years living in SD and didn't know where Boca Chica was but claims to know everything Dominican. Apartment that leaks every time it rains. A big ass expensive gas guzzler to drive two blocks and back. Claims to be a photographer but most of his pictures are out of focus. Creates a forum about being a sugar daddy full time and deletes anyone who doesn't praise him. Frannie keeps exposing him as a fool and he still hasn't caught on. Never have a seen a 50+ guy so out of touch with reality. We had a great trip when he humbled himself and took it all in but as soon as he got back he was back to that weird guy.Ugh yeah somebody on that yak.
LoveFiveStar
06-06-16, 14:42
Fellas quick question. It's been about four yrs since my last trip to Sosua, can't travel for fun any longer. Friend of mine is making his first trip on Thursday June 23. We booked our flights, Jetblue has added late night route from JFK to POP for the summer. Only issue is we arrive at POP at 2 am.
Hotel (New Garden) will charge us for a whole day even though we may not get to hotel until 3 am. Would rather pay for a nutm.
Can anyone recommend a Cabana or hotel in Sosua that does short stays. I know about the spot behind Bar Central I was looking for something a little of the strip.
Trip report to follow.
Everything will be shut down when you get in. There may be Cabanas in POP. I am sure but a cab driver would know where they are but they are going to want the Sosua fare. There is a site for DR Cabanas. How much is the flight.
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Fellas quick question. It's been about four yrs since my last trip to Sosua, can't travel for fun any longer. Friend of mine is making his first trip on Thursday June 23. We booked our flights, Jetblue has added late night route from JFK to POP for the summer. Only issue is we arrive at POP at 2 am.
Hotel (New Garden) will charge us for a whole day even though we may not get to hotel until 3 am. Would rather pay for a nutm.
Can anyone recommend a Cabana or hotel in Sosua that does short stays. I know about the spot behind Bar Central I was looking for something a little of the strip.
Trip report to follow..
Fellas quick question. It's been about four yrs since my last trip to Sosua, can't travel for fun any longer. Friend of mine is making his first trip on Thursday June 23. We booked our flights, Jetblue has added late night route from JFK to POP for the summer. Only issue is we arrive at POP at 2 am.
Hotel (New Garden) will charge us for a whole day even though we may not get to hotel until 3 am. Would rather pay for a nutm.
Can anyone recommend a Cabana or hotel in Sosua that does short stays. I know about the spot behind Bar Central I was looking for something a little of the strip.
Trip report to follow.Just a thought. Consider Field of Dreams, just across from the eastern entrance to Playa Dorada complex. The management has run the place into the ground to the point you can bet they will have vacancies. You might try emailing them to explain your time requirement. you might be able to arrange picking up the keys from someone. At absolute worst, pull up a lounge chair and crash for a few hours. If someone objects, ask them for a room key. A few miles west of the POP airport.
Just a thought. Consider Field of Dreams, just across from the eastern entrance to Playa Dorada complex. The management has run the place into the ground to the point you can bet they will have vacancies. You might try emailing them to explain your time requirement. you might be able to arrange picking up the keys from someone. At absolute worst, pull up a lounge chair and crash for a few hours. If someone objects, ask them for a room key. A few miles west of the POP airport.Respectfully speaking Mr Yanqui but that defeats his purpose which is to save money. It's 20 usd for a taxi to FOD from the airport then 30-40 for a taxi from FOD to Sosua. With his luggage and not being familiar with the landscape a publico taxi isn't a viable option.
He should check coco hotel and Calypso as they cut short term deals. Also After 1 disco is still open so he could leave his luggage in the office at New Garden and go party then have breakfast and check in the hotel after 9 am.
Mr Enternational
06-06-16, 17:23
Only issue is we arrive at POP at 2 am.
Hotel (New Garden) will charge us for a whole day even though we may not get to hotel until 3 am. Would rather pay for a nutm.
Can anyone recommend a Cabana or hotel in Sosua that does short stays. I know about the spot behind Bar Central I was looking for something a little of the strip.Dulce Secreto. But you have to realize that cabanas are first come, first serve. I don't know if you want to roll into town at that hour without a place to stay, only to find out the cabana is full.
Do yourself a favor and pay New Garden. Old Kool mentioned cabanas in Puerto Plata. He may not realize that the cabanas there are on the opposite side of the city closer to Maimon. So by the time you pay a taxi both ways and pay for the room, then you should have just stayed at NG for that night.
I think Field of Dreams is like $60. And sleep in a lounge chair at a pool to let mosquitos eat you alive all night? Just take the easy way dude.
...Can anyone recommend a Cabana or hotel in Sosua that does short stays. I know about the spot behind Bar Central I was looking for something a little of the strip.
Trip report to follow.Stay at Calypso Hotel for a couple hours. They are pretty cheap and right off Pedro Clisante.
Dulce Secreto. But you have to realize that cabanas are first come, first serve. I don't know if you want to roll into town at that hour without a place to stay, only to find out the cabana is full.
Do yourself a favor and pay New Garden. Old Kool mentioned cabanas in Puerto Plata. He may not realize that the cabanas there are on the opposite side of the city closer to Maimon. So by the time you pay a taxi both ways and pay for the room, then you should have just stayed at NG for that night.
I think Field of Dreams is like $60. And sleep in a lounge chair at a pool to let mosquitos eat you alive all night? Just take the easy way dude.I agree, or just stay at a cheap hotel like Don Antonio or Orchidee and share the room between the two of you to save cash, if that is a major factor for you. After arriving at 2:00 am You will probably want to just get a shower and sleep for several hours. If you really want to go on the cheap, you could sit it out at the airport until daylight and then find somewhere in Sosua for an early breakfast. Alternatively you could PM SubCmdr for information on how to vacation in the DR on $5 per day. You COULD go to Calypso and sleep there, but how short of cash are you really? If you end up not being able to sleep, where is the saving?
The night staff at most hotels are skeleton crews. Checking when the staff is there is hard enough. Try working with the night guard getting your room good luck. Cabanas busy time is after mid night and they are cheap. I have never seen Dulce secreto sold out.
I agree, or just stay at a cheap hotel like Don Antonio or Orchidee and share the room between the two of you to save cash, if that is a major factor for you. After arriving at 2:00 am You will probably want to just get a shower and sleep for several hours. If you really want to go on the cheap, you could sit it out at the airport until daylight and then find somewhere in Sosua for an early breakfast. Alternatively you could PM SubCmdr for information on how to vacation in the DR on $5 per day. You COULD go to Calypso and sleep there, but how short of cash are you really? If you end up not being able to sleep, where is the saving?
...in the DR on $5 per day.Frannie, the $5 is that before or after they charge you Itibis and Ley?
Hotel (New Garden) will charge us for a whole day even though we may not get to hotel until 3 am.Not a bad idea to just goto the New Garden and split one room until check out. You wake up in Sosua and ready for action. It's a small price to pay to avoid any frustrations and hassles.
Mr. GoGo's suggestion of dropping your bags at the New Garden and spending time at After1 is excellent. I've been there (with Mr. GoGo actually). A fun after hours place with lots of talent. If you are in party mode it's a great way to start your vacation in the 24/7/365 style, if that's how you like to roll. No sleep til!
Mr Enternational
06-07-16, 11:14
The night staff at most hotels are skeleton crews. Checking when the staff is there is hard enough. Try working with the night guard getting your room good luck. Cabanas busy time is after mid night and they are cheap. I have never seen Dulce secreto sold out.There are skeleton crews 24 hours in most Sosua hotels. The places I stay there is always only 1 person to check you in no matter what time it is. They may be asleep and you have to wake them up, but they are there. And how many people do you need to take your money and give you a key? The poster is arriving at 2 am, hence after midnight, and as you put it the busy time for cabanas. I have only been to DS twice. Once was in the dead afternoon when I was able to get a room, and another was late that same night, when like the OP, I only needed a short stay with a chica, but they were full. That is how I ended up finding the place I stay now. We asked a motorbike taxi guy and he led us to the hotel.
The only places I have seen a hotel not have a clerk 24 hours is at the hotel that I stay in in Boca Chica. After 10 pm only the guard is there.
I agree, or just stay at a cheap hotel like Don Antonio or Orchidee and share the room between the two of you to save cash, if that is a major factor for you. After arriving at 2:00 am You will probably want to just get a shower and sleep for several hours. If you really want to go on the cheap, you could sit it out at the airport until daylight and then find somewhere in Sosua for an early breakfast. Alternatively you could PM SubCmdr for information on how to vacation in the DR on $5 per day. You COULD go to Calypso and sleep there, but how short of cash are you really? If you end up not being able to sleep, where is the saving?Another benefit of having a long term regular chica is that I never have to worry about what time I arrive, she is there with our ride (and a cold Presidente).
I have arrived late at both Boca Chica from La Romana, and POP, and I'm whisked off to stay with "cousins" in the area. A little drink, a little home cooking for the special occasion, maybe fresh atun, even chicken wings. A little propina para Mama, and it if it weren't for the lack of a warm shower, and a private room I would be tempted to stay all week!
The night staff at most hotels are skeleton crews. Checking when the staff is there is hard enough. Try working with the night guard getting your room good luck. Cabanas busy time is after mid night and they are cheap. I have never seen Dulce secreto sold out.I have seen it sold out. If there is nobody waiting they will alllow one car to wait for a room to come free if they are cleaning a room, but after that they will just not let you drive in at all and will place a barrier at the entrance. The time it is most likely to be full is on weekend nights. This is because people will take the room for the entire night--probably Dominicans--if they don't have another place to stay in Sosua. (Old Kool, you do not say how many times you have been to Dulce Secreto and on what days and at what times, and whether you ever had to wait for a room. Since you do not rent cars I assume that you were arriving in taxis or on motos, but was this late at night? I do not recall you ever reporting on your use of Dulce Secreto, but I could be wrong.)
What Mr. Enternational says about checking in at night is true in my experience, for example at the Hotel Europa or Romanoff. Don't just speculate. Tell us about a time when you tried to check in at night, which hotel you are referring to, what happened, and what you did next!
Frannie, the $5 is that before or after they charge you Itibis and Ley?How dare you ask a question? If you need to ask, you are just showing your ignorance. You are probably one of these Western Union toyboys who pays chicas more than 100 pesos a week to fuck you up the ass with a pepino. But if you really want to know, there are no taxes in the DR or payment is purely voluntary and not expected if you are a VIP like me.
Some hotels only have security at night. Casa Cayeno, Sosua suite and Rockys will not provide late night check in. I use Dulce secreto for 3 somes and the Jacuzzi. Europa will only let you bring in one girl at a time. I have not been to the Cabana on Saturday nights but the times I was there the place looked desolate.
I have seen it sold out. If there is nobody waiting they will alllow one car to wait for a room to come free if they are cleaning a room, but after that they will just not let you drive in at all and will place a barrier at the entrance. The time it is most likely to be full is on weekend nights. This is because people will take the room for the entire night--probably Dominicans--if they don't have another place to stay in Sosua. (Old Kool, you do not say how many times you have been to Dulce Secreto and on what days and at what times, and whether you ever had to wait for a room. Since you do not rent cars I assume that you were arriving in taxis or on motos, but was this late at night? I do not recall you ever reporting on your use of Dulce Secreto, but I could be wrong.)
What Mr. Enternational says about checking in at night is true in my experience, for example at the Hotel Europa or Romanoff. Don't just speculate. Tell us about a time when you tried to check in at night, which hotel you are referring to, what happened, and what you did next!
Some hotels only have security at night. Casa Cayeno, Sosua suite and Rockys will not provide late night check in. I use Dulce secreto for 3 somes and the Jacuzzi. Europa will only let you bring in one girl at a time. I have not been to the Cabana on Saturday nights but the times I was there the place looked desolate.I'm pretty sure, if you let Kelsey know beforehand, what time you're arriving, he'll make sure you can get a room at Sosua Suites. The only problem is getting security to open the gate and call him. The same is probably true at Casa Cayena / Sosua Sunrise. The key is letting them know your arrival time.
Manizales911
06-07-16, 16:26
The night staff at most hotels are skeleton crews. Checking when the staff is there is hard enough. Try working with the night guard getting your room good luck. Cabanas busy time is after mid night and they are cheap. I have never seen Dulce secreto sold out.Dulce Secreto sells out regularly late at night on weekends.
...Western Union toyboys who pays chicas more than 100 pesos a week to fuck you up the ass with a pepino...I find it shocking that you would accuse me of paying 100 pesos for such a stunt. I would never, and have never, done such a thing. Actually, I pay 75 pesos. Frannie, please correct yourself.
LoveFiveStar
06-08-16, 01:29
Everything will be shut down when you get in. There may be Cabanas in POP. There is a site for DR Cabanas. How much is the flight.
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.Flight was $337 when I booked it's gone up a lot since. It was so low I couldn't pass it up. Just got to figure out what to do when we get in at 2 am.
Mr Enternational
06-08-16, 01:59
Frannie, the $5 is that before or after they charge you Itibis and Ley?Funny you should bring this up. I was just talking to a friend who works in immigration and is studying tax law. She told me:
Impuestos sobre la transferencia de bienes industrializados y servicios (ITBIS) - Tax for the transfer of industrialized goods and services is 18%.
Ley is short for Ley Laboral or Labor Law. It says in part that servers are due 10% of the bill. So when you see ley as part of your bill, that is the tip that is already included. I asked her why they don't just write propina (tip) instead of Ley. She said she does not know why. That is up to the owner of the establishment as to what they write it on the menu as.
I cannot even begin to tell you how many times I've been with fellow mongers and they were determined to leave a tip despite the fact that we paid for Itibis and Ley. When I refuse to contribute to the 'propina' I am looked on as the bad guy. I will leave a tip if the service is quite outstanding or if I am interested in the chica (and even with this it is rare.). Excellent point, Mr Enternational.
Charles Pooter
06-08-16, 13:59
I asked her why they don't just write propina (tip) instead of Ley. She said she does not know why.To make it clear that the proprietor is obliged by law to impose this charge. In case a customer protests that he does not want to give a propina.
In many establishments the owners pocket this and the staff never see it. Or they are notionally paid it but have bullshit expenses (like laundry of uniforms) deducted. Haitian employees in particular rarely see any of it.
In other places the staff receive all of it, but no other wages.
Many places catering for gringos do not show one or both charges as extra but include them in the overall price. But they still have to pay the ITBIS to the authorities and should pay the "ley" to eligible staff.
Dulce Secreto. But you have to realize that cabanas are first come, first serve. I don't know if you want to roll into town at that hour without a place to stay, only to find out the cabana is full.
Do yourself a favor and pay New Garden. Old Kool mentioned cabanas in Puerto Plata. He may not realize that the cabanas there are on the opposite side of the city closer to Maimon. So by the time you pay a taxi both ways and pay for the room, then you should have just stayed at NG for that night.
I think Field of Dreams is like $60. And sleep in a lounge chair at a pool to let mosquitos eat you alive all night? Just take the easy way dude.Just pay the money of NG. $50 or $60, Then find a woman to fulfill your needs, then get some sleep.
To make it clear that the proprietor is obliged by law to impose this charge. In case a customer protests that he does not want to give a propina.
In many establishments the owners pocket this and the staff never see it. Or they are notionally paid it but have bullshit expenses (like laundry of uniforms) deducted. Haitian employees in particular rarely see any of it.
In other places the staff receive all of it, but no other wages.
Many places catering for gringos do not show one or both charges as extra but include them in the overall price. But they still have to pay the ITBIS to the authorities and should pay the "ley" to eligible staff.In Bogota, Colombia (I don't know if it's just a local or a national ordnance) they have something similar, a 10% propina that is added to the bill. However, it states on the bill, the propina is optional and customer can deduct it from the bill if unwilling to pay.
To make it clear that the proprietor is obliged by law to impose this charge. In case a customer protests that he does not want to give a propina.
In many establishments the owners pocket this and the staff never see it. Or they are notionally paid it but have bullshit expenses (like laundry of uniforms) deducted. Haitian employees in particular rarely see any of it.
In other places the staff receive all of it, but no other wages.
Many places catering for gringos do not show one or both charges as extra but include them in the overall price. But they still have to pay the ITBIS to the authorities and should pay the "ley" to eligible staff.Most of the owners in the Bocachica area charge the taxes but neither are shown in the receipt nor are paid to to the Gov. When confronted with this situation, I demand the " comprobante fiscal". Most of the time they are unable to produce it, in which case I refused to pay the taxes. It may generate a little argument but one that so far I have never lost.
Funny you should bring this up. I was just talking to a friend who works in immigration and is studying tax law. She told me:
Impuestos sobre la transferencia de bienes industrializados y servicios (ITBIS) - Tax for the transfer of industrialized goods and services is 18%.
Ley is short for Ley Laboral or Labor Law. It says in part that servers are due 10% of the bill. So when you see ley as part of your bill, that is the tip that is already included. I asked her why they don't just write propina (tip) instead of Ley. She said she does not know why. That is up to the owner of the establishment as to what they write it on the menu as.Thanks man! I've never understood Ley. And I don't think many Dominicans do either. I've asked and never received a direct answer like you provided. I don't know all things Dominican and never claimed I did. I only know what I know. I'm always happy to learn from someone willing to teach in a respectful manner.
This reminds me of Baileys in Sosua. They were charging this for years and one day Santo Domingo found out. They sent someone over there and before you know it they were closed down for several months.
From my experience many places that charge it do not have a legal right to do so. In addition, many years ago I went to Morua Mai with a local and upon showing his ID he was exempt from paying the Itibis. Several years later, at the same restaurant, I asked the owner about this and she was evasive, and said that they always had to pay the tax.
Arrived at Boca Chica and a bus was in the front. It was loaded with about 35 Young black English guys. They say they were on their way to the Sue. Talk with them for a second they are athletes businessmen and college students. I say between the ages of 25 and 30. They will all out of rubbers. I looked out for me I always keep a pack of cheap rubbers for those who forget theirs. Dude said they are acting like they never had pussy before. It's four to a room. How the f* they do that. They took every room available at Villa Capri. S* I started to sell my room. One guy is not coming to school for three years and he's organized a tour guide service. The Sue is in for trouble.
Could you let Frannie know that the lower we push the estimated number of prostitutes in the Dominican Republic, the stronger my argument becomes that a woman does not need to be a prostitute to feed her children? He can pick any number he likes when it comes to the cost of raising a child. Because if poverty was the sole reason women enter prostitution in the Dominican Republic we would expect that number to be around 35 - 40%. Your whole concept is way off beam. We are not just talking about all Dominican women, but about (mostly) single mothers who do not have college educations. Now in the US only a very small number of such women prostitute themselves, but on the other hand they can usually earn at least $10 per hour in unskilled jobs, and they have access to food stamps (SNAP), subsidized or capped rentals via HUD, Medicaid, CHIP free school breakfasts and lunches, free schools, free school buses, Social Security disability (in some cases), and some other programs. She can probably also earn $40 for 2 hours work off the books cleaning someone's house. Now what is the Dominican equivalent to food stamps? Are groceries and formulas cheaper in the DR than in the US? How much can she earn for cleaning someone's house in the DR?
Here is an example. I know a pleasant young Haitian woman (attractive). She lives with her family in Montellano. She is a legal resident of the DR. She is married, but her husband is in Haiti. She is not a hooker. She is hard working and intelligent and honest and likes to go to school and do courses. I have known her for about 5 years. She worked for me for about 2 years. She got 5000 pesos from me every 2 weeks, plus transportation fare, plus free meals on the job.
After I left the DR she was left jobless. She now has a new job working 6 days a week in a clothing store in Sosua as a sales assistant. After she pays 100 pesos a day for transportation to and from Montellano plus pays for her daily lunches she has 1500 pesos per two weeks left over for herself (and to feed a child, but she doesn't have a child) or to give to her mother.
So that is just an example of the economics of life for a young women in unskilled work. Now give me your example of someone you know and how much they earn, how much it costs them to get to work, and so on.
The other point I take issue with you on is the question of how often women accept money for sex. You are kind of assuming that women will have several clients per day for most of the days in the month, , make a lot of money, and spend most of it on luxuries, but while that might be the case for some hard core pros fpr a limited time in their short careers, I don't believe it is the case with the majority of part timers who just get a paying client or boyfriend when they can, or when they really need extra cash to pay bills or something.
Incidentally another Haitian woman who also worked for me who was older, uglier, fatter, and stupider, is currently living in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. When I asked how she got over there, of course the answer was that she had a boyfriend who took her. So yes, Dominican and Haitian chicas are ingenious and find ways to travel all over the world, but it is rarely without financial help from someone else.
I would be interested to hear accounts from others for personal experiences on how much Dominican single mothers earn and how much it really costs to live there and feed a family.
Your whole concept is way off beam. We are not just talking about all Dominican women, but about (mostly) single mothers who do not have college educations. Now in the US only a very small number of such women prostitute themselves, but on the other hand they can usually earn at least $10 per hour in unskilled jobs, and they have access to food stamps (SNAP), subsidized or capped rentals via HUD, Medicaid, CHIP free school breakfasts and lunches, free schools, free school buses, Social Security disability (in some cases), and some other programs. She can probably also earn $40 for 2 hours work off the books cleaning someone's house. Now what is the Dominican equivalent to food stamps? Are groceries and formulas cheaper in the DR than in the US? How much can she earn for cleaning someone's house in the DR?
Here is an example. I know a pleasant young Haitian woman (attractive). She lives with her family in Montellano. She is a legal resident of the DR. She is married, but her husband is in Haiti. She is not a hooker. She is hard working and intelligent and honest and likes to go to school and do courses. I have known her for about 5 years. She worked for me for about 2 years. She got 5000 pesos from me every 2 weeks, plus transportation fare, plus free meals on the job.
After I left the DR she was left jobless. She now has a new job working 6 days a week in a clothing store in Sosua as a sales assistant. After she pays 100 pesos a day for transportation to and from Montellano plus pays for her daily lunches she has 1500 pesos per two weeks left over for herself (and to feed a child, but she doesn't have a child) or to give to her mother.
So that is just an example of the economics of life for a young women in unskilled work. Now give me your example of someone you know and how much they earn, how much it costs them to get to work, and so on.
The other point I take issue with you on is the question of how often women accept money for sex. You are kind of assuming that women will have several clients per day for most of the days in the month, , make a lot of money, and spend most of it on luxuries, but while that might be the case for some hard core pros fpr a limited time in their short careers, I don't believe it is the case with the majority of part timers who just get a paying client or boyfriend when they can, or when they really need extra cash to pay bills or something.
Incidentally another Haitian woman who also worked for me who was older, uglier, fatter, and stupider, is currently living in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. When I asked how she got over there, of course the answer was that she had a boyfriend who took her. So yes, Dominican and Haitian chicas are ingenious and find ways to travel all over the world, but it is rarely without financial help from someone else.
I would be interested to hear accounts from others for personal experiences on how much Dominican single mothers earn and how much it really costs to live there and feed a family.I wrote about this topic months ago, but here goes again.
An outside sales rep for a plastics company got paid about 250 US a month.
A chica I met a few years ago at BB said she had worked at a department store previously, pay was 200 US.
Consider the basic expenses, DR electricity is expensive, water, rent, food (not even considering transportation, maybe a phone, not even internet / cable).
All that on a single income of 250 US?
Many get help from relatives in the US, family in the DR, but is it any wonder so many are willing to moonlight as a hooker, WU novio, or regular boyfriend.
I would like to see anyone on this board try to live on 250 US a month, even as a single man, with no family to support.
I wrote about this topic months ago, but here goes again.
An outside sales rep for a plastics company got paid about 250 US a month.
A chica I met a few years ago at BB said she had worked at a department store previously, pay was 200 US.
Consider the basic expenses, DR electricity is expensive, water, rent, food (not even considering transportation, maybe a phone, not even internet / cable).
All that on a single income of 250 US?
Many get help from relatives in the US, family in the DR, but is it any wonder so many are willing to moonlight as a hooker, WU novio, or regular boyfriend.
I would like to see anyone on this board try to live on 250 US a month, even as a single man, with no family to support.Relax, it's all bullshit.
The only thing worse than a woman with little option but to sell her body, are the asshole losers who have to buy it from them.
That includes me, and everybody else who mongers in Sosua.
Those that brag about their "conquests", and denigrate the girls down there are in serious need of psychiatric counselling.
Why does anybody take these assholes seriously?
If you do, then you need counselling too.
Its called P4 P, and it's YOU that PAYS!
No pay? No sex!
Getting it for free?
Fuck off and join alt.binaries.truelove, if you insist on talking about it publicly :)
Next?
BoricuaOnline
06-10-16, 02:56
I cannot even begin to tell you how many times I've been with fellow mongers and they were determined to leave a tip despite the fact that we paid for Itibis and Ley. When I refuse to contribute to the 'propina' I am looked on as the bad guy. I will leave a tip if the service is quite outstanding or if I am interested in the chica (and even with this it is rare.). Excellent point, Mr Enternational.Maybe they look you as the bad guy for two reasons: they expect that extra cash from foreign clients and because a lot of times they never receive the 10% they are entitled by law. I have read a few times in local newspapers that it is a common practice from patrons to keep the ley tip for themselves.
Maybe they look you as the bad guy for two reasons: they expect that extra cash from foreign clients and because a lot of times they never receive the 10% they are entitled by law. I have read a few times in local newspapers that it is a common practice from patrons to keep the ley tip for themselves.Good point. That said, let us put the pieces together. 18% for Itibis. 10% for Ley. Now we add a tip. This would all add up to a third of the bill! That is ludicrous.
Do this over a span of two weeks and it all adds up. For that, don't leave a tip. If the business is pocketing the tips that is between the employer and employee and the customer has nothing to do with it. Also, we are charged 'ley' then leave a tip. In other words, we are paying the tip twice! (No matter who pockets the money!) The tourist definitely should not pay for people's corruption.
I have been to many restaurants in the DR that have miscalculated the bill. It has always been to their advantage. I always corrected them on this. I have been to other restaurants where they did not give me the proper change back (either because they did not have the proper change to give back or they wanted to pocket the money). I rarely leave tips, for these and other reasons.
This reminds me of the time I stayed at Terra Linda. We needed to have clothes washed so Larry, who could only speak English, went to the laundry place and they charged him DOP 300. I went afterwards and after talking to them in Spanish they charged me DOP 200. I later learned that the locals were only charged DOP 100. Now, from experience, I have found cheaper alternatives. This is just one example of how we are obviously being overcharged.
That said, if someone walks into a restaurant that charges Itibis and Ley believe me when I tell you that we are definitely paying too much and the workers will do just fine without our tips. I love eating at Baileys but considering the ridiculous prices they charge (compared to the standard of living on the island) they are making out like bandits. This is also true of Morua Mai and Terra Linda. I would say, though, that all these places have great food and I would highly recommend them but they are simply overpriced. Again, there should be no reason why food should cost so much in a developing nation like the DR.
We do not know which restaurants pocket the 'Ley' and which do but, again, it is not the responsibility of the customer to know that. Hey, if I like the service that much or if the chica interests me, fine, but otherwise I usually skip the tip.
As for expecting cash from foreign clients I find this common all over the island. Many times I cannot even ask for directions in Santo Domingo without some guy asking for a tip. This also happens at the airport, while looking for a cat house, while asking for extra towels at a hotel; in fact it's a daily fact of life in the DR. It is one of the regrettable hassles of visiting the island.
I would rather be the bad guy than the foolish guy. In the DR one has to be wise with their money. Just my take and in all due respect to Boricuaonline and other members on this board.
Thanks Boricuaonline for your input.
I really love Thursday nights at Classico. Tonight was no different. A lot of prom dates. I mean these chicas are absolutely beautiful. A lot of guys but enough girls to go around. I'm thinking to myself damn this is only Thursday night. I fell in the club about 1:45. Saw the girl I met about 3 years ago on my birthday. She and I are cool. We never session because she refused to take an HIV test for me. I'm not saying she's positive she just exercise my right not to take it. I've seen her in sosua plenty of times but I've never proposition her again. She's one the few chica whom allow to come and dance on me. I had her on my "we're just cool list". She asked for a drink and I told her yes get me a water while you're at it. She and her friend are both dancing by me as the crowd go by. In comes my homie Dre. He and another homie decided on Casa Angela. I had my fire stick with me I needed hotel with updated equipment to enjoy my firestick. It was back to Europa for me. Anyway I'm wondering is his fate decided that me and my birthday girl we're going to have a session. She was looking good. I treated her like a hotel chica for the last 2 years. It would really surprise her if I came in her. Meanwhile Dre has came back over to me and seeing the group dancing by on me. He took one look at her body and grabbed her and pulled her to him. He really showed he was interested and she bit. I watch them to the phone game. She showed him a picture of her in lingerie. I could tell they were talking about price. I can tell the way she dropped her shoulders when he tried to counter. She was stuck on 3500 pesos for 1 hour. She's a Sosua vet. The negotiations stopped. 2 minutes later he said he was going to the room. He looked at her and said come on. He bit on the price! As he was walking away he ask me to tell him if the pussy was good. I looked at him and laugh now you asking me. Let me tell you now that you're asking me I've never been with her. And after you get with her I never will be with her. That's my girl why'all go enjoy yourselves. They left I wonder how thiat turned out.
Meanwhile I'm thinking about taking an L for tonight. A lot of nice chica but I am very selective. Look around make sure it wasn't any chocolate treats that could make me change my mind. I couldn't see any of my regular. I only had two thousand 200 hundred pesos. I figured I would just double up tomorrow and take it easy for tonight. I had something good waiting for me in the room. So I'm sitting outside of Classico in an all white linen suit still high from an earlier smoke session, in my zone. A group of girls from Santiago we're giving me compliments on my outfit. They had a young girl with her. First time here type of thing. They were suggesting that she leave with me and we're trying to negotiate a good price for her. I took a nice look at her Young Blanca cute. She wasn't dressed like she was going to Classico. More like or walk to the mall. Blue jean overalls and sneakers. Of course she couldn't speak any English. I seen her out the corner of my eye her pointing her friends out to me. I guess she was saying I want to be with that one. Her friends seemed eager and comfortable giving her to me. They were all from Santiago. The young lady that did the most talking was her older cousin. I told her her cousin was in good hands and offered her my phone number. They were all going to the casino. She and I agreed on a price 1500 and if she's good 2000 pesos. We get to Europa and she gives her ID to the receptionist. The reception is at the questions she did not answer correctly. This girl has no cellular. She's obviously over 21 but she doesn't have identification. I called her cousin telling her cousin that I cannot go to jail. Her cousin came explaining her cousin is an illegal. She's 23 years old. Showing me pictures of them on Facebook and what not. Of course I know the girl is over 21 however rules are rules. So I took her to another designated area I keep in reserve. And on a scale of 1 to 10 she was most definitely and 8 1/2. She gave me deep swallow. BJ. She grabbed my hips and pulled my body into her mouth. Damn I really forgot chicas can do that. I love watching when I first enter a woman in the first five minutes she's creaming all over my condom. Lucky me. Did not complain did not rush and she wanted to kiss. Must be something in the air.
I really love Thursday nights at Classico. Tonight was no different. A lot of prom dates. I mean these chicas are absolutely beautiful. A lot of guys but enough girls to go around. I'm thinking to myself damn this is only Thursday night. I fell in the club about 1:45. Saw the girl I met about 3 years ago on my birthday. She and I are cool. We never session because she refused to take an HIV test for me. I'm not saying she's positive she just exercise my right not to take it. I've seen her in sosua plenty of times but I've never proposition her again. She's one the few chica whom allow to come and dance on me. I had her on my "we're just cool list". She asked for a drink and I told her yes get me a water while you're at it. She and her friend are both dancing by me as the crowd go by. In comes my homie Dre. He and another homie decided on Casa Angela. I had my fire stick with me I needed hotel with updated equipment to enjoy my firestick. It was back to Europa for me. Anyway I'm wondering is his fate decided that me and my birthday girl we're going to have a session. She was looking good. I treated her like a hotel chica for the last 2 years. It would really surprise her if I came in her. Meanwhile Dre has came back over to me and seeing the group dancing by on me. He took one look at her body and grabbed her and pulled her to him. He really showed he was interested and she bit. I watch them to the phone game. She showed him a picture of her in lingerie. I could tell they were talking about price. I can tell the way she dropped her shoulders when he tried to counter. She was stuck on 3500 pesos for 1 hour. She's a Sosua vet. The negotiations stopped. 2 minutes later he said he was going to the room. He looked at her and said come on. He bit on the price! As he was walking away he ask me to tell him if the pussy was good. I looked at him and laugh now you asking me. Let me tell you now that you're asking me I've never been with her. And after you get with her I never will be with her. That's my girl why'all go enjoy yourselves. They left I wonder how thiat turned out.
Meanwhile I'm thinking about taking an L for tonight. A lot of nice chica but I am very selective. Look around make sure it wasn't any chocolate treats that could make me change my mind. I couldn't see any of my regular. I only had two thousand 200 hundred pesos. I figured I would just double up tomorrow and take it easy for tonight. I had something good waiting for me in the room. So I'm sitting outside of Classico in an all white linen suit still high from an earlier smoke session, in my zone. A group of girls from Santiago we're giving me compliments on my outfit. They had a young girl with her. First time here type of thing. They were suggesting that she leave with me and we're trying to negotiate a good price for her. I took a nice look at her Young Blanca cute. She wasn't dressed like she was going to Classico. More like or walk to the mall. Blue jean overalls and sneakers. Of course she couldn't speak any English. I seen her out the corner of my eye her pointing her friends out to me. I guess she was saying I want to be with that one. Her friends seemed eager and comfortable giving her to me. They were all from Santiago. The young lady that did the most talking was her older cousin. I told her her cousin was in good hands and offered her my phone number. They were all going to the casino. She and I agreed on a price 1500 and if she's good 2000 pesos. We get to Europa and she gives her ID to the receptionist. The reception is at the questions she did not answer correctly. This girl has no cellular. She's obviously over 21 but she doesn't have identification. I called her cousin telling her cousin that I cannot go to jail. Her cousin came explaining her cousin is an illegal. She's 23 years old. Showing me pictures of them on Facebook and what not. Of course I know the girl is over 21 however rules are rules. So I took her to another designated area I keep in reserve. And on a scale of 1 to 10 she was most definitely and 8 1/2. She gave me deep swallow. BJ. She grabbed my hips and pulled my body into her mouth. Damn I really forgot chicas can do that. I love watching when I first enter a woman in the first five minutes she's creaming all over my condom. Lucky me. Did not complain did not rush and she wanted to kiss. Must be something in the air.That's just Sosua at it's best.
Always new stuff coming in.
She gave me deep swallow. BJ. She grabbed my hips and pulled my body into her mouth. Damn I really forgot chicas can do that. Nice report!
I've been to Sosua many times and I had a chica do that to me for the first time on my last trip.
SavePros321
06-10-16, 21:34
Saw the girl I met about 3 years ago on my birthday...So I'm sitting outside of Classico in an all white linen suit still high from an earlier smoke session, in my zone.GrownMan a*k*a Cmo Cakes?
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Tonight was a pretty good show of chicas. There are no short supplies here in the Sue. I didn't get in there until about 2:15. The place is still packed. Didn't see nothing that really grabbed my attention. I'm feeling like Mr GoGo taking an L tonight. Guess I'll double up tomorrow. I really don't like after 1 crowd so it's back to Europa. I thought I was going to settle with one chica but she wouldn't get off 2500. I'm not in a rush to give up my money without any incentives. She even was Haitian. My Dominican last night would have gotten a rare back to back repeat had I seen her.
I saw the UK fellows in the club. They had to leave early because one of them got caught walking smoking marijuana. Man he was really slipping. I told him it's best to go and bride the officer now before things get ugly.
Tonight was a pretty good show of chicas. There are no short supplies here in the Sue. I didn't get in there until about 2:15. The place is still packed. Didn't see nothing that really grabbed my attention. I'm feeling like Mr GoGo taking an L tonight. Guess I'll double up tomorrow. I really don't like after 1 crowd so it's back to Europa. I thought I was going to settle with one chica but she wouldn't get off 2500. I'm not in a rush to give up my money without any incentives. She even was Haitian. My Dominican last night would have gotten a rare back to back repeat had I seen her.
I saw the UK fellows in the club. They had to leave early because one of them got caught walking smoking marijuana. Man he was really slipping. I told him it's best to go and bride the officer now before things get ugly.Good report dude. Once you have been somewhere more than 5 times you tend to look for that hidden gem because the regulars don't phase you. At that late hour you need to check out the bar girls who are getting off work. Respectfully speaking bro, but why fall into Classicos so late? You only get the leftovers.
Grownman, time to do some homework; see if you can find out from the black euro group the specifics of their trip. Is there a website they use? How much they paid? Was it their first time? The reason for inquiring is to find out if this is the new trend. That many dudes hitting one spot can be a problem in the future. Plus it sounds like they have been fucking up already so it might be good for a few laughs.
Good report dude. Once you have been somewhere more than 5 times you tend to look for that hidden gem because the regulars don't phase you. At that late hour you need to check out the bar girls who are getting off work. Respectfully speaking bro, but why fall into Classicos so late? You only get the leftovers.
Grownman, time to do some homework; see if you can find out from the black euro group the specifics of their trip. Is there a website they use? How much they paid? Was it their first time? The reason for inquiring is to find out if this is the new trend. That many dudes hitting one spot can be a problem in the future. Plus it sounds like they have been fucking up already so it might be good for a few laughs.I will try to get that information from them. I can't believe I haven't seen any of my regular. I've been coming to sosua for 3 years. I mean I've seen some girls out session with. A lot of chicas come and give me hugs but I can't remember the sessions. It must not be anything to shake a stick at because I only remember the real good ones and the real bad ones. I really have a lot of saved numbers but a lot talking to chicas while I am in the US bores me. Even DC cupid bores me. A lot of those conversations lead to request for money . I will be definitely going to Caberetta tonight. I need change up. This is why I missing traveling with a Vet. Vets on more adventurous to try new areas. Where the hell is Parkinson when I need him.
Good report dude. At that late hour you need to check out the bar girls who are getting off work. Respectfully speaking bro, but why fall into Classicos so late? You only get the leftovers.
.Mr. G try to stay say from Bartenders. They are hotel chicas to me. I go to the club's late because I am not a drinker and most chicas want drinks. Their are a lot of Ballers buying chicas drinks all night. And. Once they buy that wine. I just creep up from behind. I got lucky last night. The problem their aren't a lot of sleepers. I miss hitting the corners of Andres. Seeing non pro talent.
Reinventing the wheel is a dangerous thing sometimes. Sosua provides access to young pretty girls. These girls range from hard core pros to sweet fresh off the bus. I go there 3 times a year and always have a great time. I am still learning how to be less anxious. Patience is the key getting the best of Sosua. Every time I go off the rails I regret it. Rile one pick the girls you want. Just because a girl grabs your dick does not mean she knows what to do with it. Most of us lose the ability to think when a women has your dick in her hand.
Mr. G try to stay say from Bartenders. They are hotel chicas to me. I go to the club's late because I am not a drinker and most chicas want drinks. Their are a lot of Ballers buying chicas drinks all night. And. Once they buy that wine. I just creep up from behind. I got lucky last night. The problem their aren't a lot of sleepers. I miss hitting the corners of Andres. Seeing non pro talent.
Mr. G try to stay say from Bartenders. They are hotel chicas to me. I go to the club's late because I am not a drinker and most chicas want drinks. Their are a lot of Ballers buying chicas drinks all night. And. Once they buy that wine. I just creep up from behind. I got lucky last night. The problem their aren't a lot of sleepers. I miss hitting the corners of Andres. Seeing non pro talent. I don't drink either. I used to just walk into bars or the disco and take chicas out without buying drinks for myself or the chicas. There is no need to buy drinks for them. The reason the chicas are in the bars is because they want to meet men for PFP. If they are there to drink, they are probably best avoided anyway. Basic chica selection 101.
SavePros321
06-11-16, 18:48
I don't drink either. I used to just walk into bars or the disco and take chicas out without buying drinks for myself or the chicas. There is no need to buy drinks for them. The reason the chicas are in the bars is because they want to meet men for PFP. If they are there to drink, they are probably best avoided anyway. Basic chica selection 101.I didn't even know this was a thing!
I haven't been back to Sosua since 2012 but everytime I even give it a thought I read something like this that quickly puts it out of my mind. I drink, but I have never bought a drink for a chica. When I am on the strip I am there looking for something to take back to the room. The conversation should take no more than 5 minutes when you have made up your mind about the one you want. No sticking around to dance with her or buy her drinks. I've got plenty of booze and music back in the room.
I blame this shit on the younger guys. These ninjas come here and think they are on a real date like they are back home where they feel they have to buy a woman a drink in order to talk to her. The very same shit they are running from to begin with, lmao!
I didn't even know this was a thing!
I haven't been back to Sosua since 2012 but everytime I even give it a thought I read something like this that quickly puts it out of my mind. I drink, but I have never bought a drink for a chica. When I am on the strip I am there looking for something to take back to the room. The conversation should take no more than 5 minutes when you have made up your mind about the one you want. No sticking around to dance with her or buy her drinks. I've got plenty of booze and music back in the room.
I blame this shit on the younger guys. These ninjas come here and think they are on a real date like they are back home where they feel they have to buy a woman a drink in order to talk to her. The very same shit they are running from to begin with, lmao!Listen up newbies. No matter how much money you spend on buying chicas drinks, it has nothing to do with negotiations later. Unless you are like Mr. G. Mr. G wants everyone as drunk as he is as long as the party strong. He doesn't even need a big crowd. 3 decent chica and some music, he will drink and dance all night. With his two left feet. I seen guys pay over $100 on drinks along per night. Then back in the room the chica wants to charge him another hundred. So much for the love it's all about business. A lot of guys find themselves too drunk too lazy or too late to find another chica.
I didn't even know this was a thing!
I haven't been back to Sosua since 2012 but everytime I even give it a thought I read something like this that quickly puts it out of my mind. I drink, but I have never bought a drink for a chica. When I am on the strip I am there looking for something to take back to the room. The conversation should take no more than 5 minutes when you have made up your mind about the one you want. No sticking around to dance with her or buy her drinks. I've got plenty of booze and music back in the room.
I blame this shit on the younger guys. These ninjas come here and think they are on a real date like they are back home where they feel they have to buy a woman a drink in order to talk to her. The very same shit they are running from to begin with, lmao!I think a lot of the alcohol thing is about overcoming inhibitions. A lot of guys are so hung up about sex that they can't just approach a chica sober and talk to her about having sex, so they have to go through this elaborate process of drinking for hours while they try to pluck up enogh courage. If they are traveling in a group that is a sure sign of insecurity and the problem will be even worse, because they are scared of losing face in front of their friends who are bound to ask them about the sexual experience with the chica the next day. Additionally many of these guys don't speak a significant amount of Spanish, so they can't really have conversations with the chicas when they get to the room, so being drunk provides a useful cover.
I found out that the UK boys paid 500 pounds to get their partner out of trouble. I heard once they paid the 500 pounds the police took it and try just scare them away. It was a big problem because at the station the police tried to intimidate them with their guns, but those guys weren't backing down.
I think a lot of the alcohol thing is about overcoming inhibitions. A lot of guys are so hung up about sex that they can't just approach a chica sober and talk to her about having sex, so they have to go through this elaborate process of drinking for hours while they try to pluck up enogh courage. If they are traveling in a group that is a sure sign of insecurity and the problem will be even worse, because they are scared of losing face in front of their friends who are bound to ask them about the sexual experience with the chica the next day. Additionally many of these guys don't speak a significant amount of Spanish, so they can't really have conversations with the chicas when they get to the room, so being drunk provides a useful coverMaybe I've missed something but I don't think it takes courage (alcohol or not) to talk to girls in the DR. Pulling girls is like crossing the street, it's that easy. They are probably the most friendly of any girls in any country that I have traveled to. Maybe a first timer in the DR might be mesmerized by the beauty everywhere but to say they need courage through alcohol to pull in the DR is crazy. Girls are very open minded sexually and have no problem getting naked and fucking.
I don't do drugs, and I'm naturally hyper-active and in the evening I like to take the edge off and relax. I don't even drink during the daytime. Plus we are on vacation and we want to have a good time. Honestly when I see a guy at a bar just sitting there because he doesn't drink or he is too cheap to buy a drink, I wonder why is he even here. If 100 pesos is too much for you to buy a perspective sex partner a drink while you interview her then maybe you should stand outside and use hand signals.
Tempoecorto
06-11-16, 22:16
so being drunk provides a useful cover.Sad, isn't it? All the beauties waiting to be ravished and the men? Busy partaking the Dutch courage! I also need to say that I found most women I know there (not Sosua of which I know little) are not into drinking or perhaps a cerveza, tops! I was having a conversation with one and she said, "bring me candies" even after I asked if she would like, say vodka or bailey's. No interest!
Mr Enternational
06-11-16, 22:17
I think a lot of the alcohol thing is about overcoming inhibitions. A lot of guys are so hung up about sex that they can't just approach a chica sober and talk to her about having sex, so they have to go through this elaborate process of drinking for hours while they try to pluck up enogh courage. If they are traveling in a group that is a sure sign of insecurity and the problem will be even worse, because they are scared of losing face in front of their friends who are bound to ask them about the sexual experience with the chica the next day. Additionally many of these guys don't speak a significant amount of Spanish, so they can't really have conversations with the chicas when they get to the room, so being drunk provides a useful cover.What? What the f kind of theory is this? So when me, Gogo, and Grown Man - who does not drink by the way (or any of my other friends) are travelling together it is a sure sign of insecurity and we don't want to lose face? That has never been a problem for me or any of my friends. As a guy growing up one should be used to getting turned down by chicks, and by adulthood it should roll off of him like water off a duck's back. And what does it matter if he speaks Spanish or not? What if the girl speaks English or if they are mongering in an English speaking country. I don't really know too many people in this hobby that are as bashful or hung up about sex as you would make them out to be.
Just reminded me of when I was over my cousin's house the other day and his screen saver popped up of some chick sucking his dick. I said man don't nobody want to see that bullshit.
I think a lot of the alcohol thing is about overcoming inhibitions. A lot of guys are so hung up about sex that they can't just approach a chica sober and talk to her about having sex, so they have to go through this elaborate process of drinking for hours while they try to pluck up enogh courage. If they are traveling in a group that is a sure sign of insecurity and the problem will be even worse, because they are scared of losing face in front of their friends who are bound to ask them about the sexual experience with the chica the next day. Additionally many of these guys don't speak a significant amount of Spanish, so they can't really have conversations with the chicas when they get to the room, so being drunk provides a useful cover.Not really true. It is not like they are going to a regular bar to pick up normal girls. Everybody goes there knowing these ladies are for hire. Shy, not confident, does not have enough courage has nothing to do with it. In Sosua any girl can be approached and asked for sex. There are many I have seen who do not order alcohol drink.
Advantage of alcohol is in my opinion, you would not pick up any girl from there without some beer googles. All look ugly, old, out of shape etc. With couple of drinks half of the at least look good enough to fuck.
There is no reason to worry about satisfying the chica. For one reason or another he cannot perform it is no big deal. No reason for second date.
As for me having a drink, dance etc bonds me with the girl and sex is better. Besides at least for that night it becomes GFE.
Advantage of alcohol is in my opinion, you would not pick up any girl from there without some beer googles. All look ugly, old, out of shape etc. With couple of drinks half of the at least look good enough to fuck.
This supports what I said about needing alcohol to overcome inhibitions.
And what does it matter if he speaks Spanish or not? What if the girl speaks English or if they are mongering in an English speaking country. I don't really know too many people in this hobby that are as bashful or hung up about sex as you would make them out to be.
Are you drunk? This thread is about a specific location in a Spanish-speaking country. Most of the girls in Sosua don't speak English, so Spanish is the language of choice for pillow talk. A lot of the people you see in Sosua are not veterans of "this hobby". Obviously you can have sex with someone without being able to converse with them, but in my opinion it is usually much better if you can talk to them. Grownman showed in his post that even someone with his considerable experience is concerned about the girls wanting to have drinks before leaving with a customer, something I would never bother about at all.
Mr Enternational
06-12-16, 02:58
Grownman showed in his post that even someone with his considerable experience is concerned about the girls wanting to have drinks before leaving with a customer, something I would never bother about at all.Nor would I. You have never seen me saying you should buy women drinks, go dancing with them, go out to eat with them, and neither do any of my friends that I usually monger with. We all realize that we are there to fuck and the women are there for money. There are no illusions and we save regular women for all that other stuff.
If 100 pesos is too much for you to buy a perspective sex partner a drink while you interview her then maybe you should stand outside and use hand signals.Or post up outside in a fresh all white linen suit. I hit the club about 2 to 2:15. Back in my law enforcement days when I didn't drink nor smoke. I used to ask my cousin why did he smoke marijuana. He says when he smokes he understands things better. I told him it was all in his head. He said "it's easy for you to say that when you don't smoke". I remember my Ciroc days in the Sue. It was never liquid courage for me. But I'm sure to each their own.
Today at the beach I ran into Puerto Plata connection. It was only one of them without the rest. She was hot and came and sat down at Big Momma's with us. Of course I was drinking water and I offered to buy her a bottle. She said no thank you and a few minutes later she asked me to buy her a Corona. Hell no I'm not buying no Coronas. I said to her with a calm face.
Honestly when I see a guy at a bar just sitting there because he doesn't drink or he is too cheap to buy a drink, I wonder why is he even here. If 100 pesos is too much for you to buy a perspective sex partner a drink while you interview her then maybe you should stand outside and use hand signals. Look, the girls go to the bars because that is where they can meet men for P4 P. The men go to the bars to get drunk and / or find chicas. The bar owners make a lot of money.
If I wanted to go somewhere for a drink, I would probably not choose a prostitution bar. I do not feel that I owe any debt to bar owners. If I see a girl in a prostitution bar that I am interested in having sex with her, I will probably invite her to go somewhere else to discuss the matter. In my experience there is no evidence at all that buying chicas alcoholic drinks will improve the experience--in fact quite the opposite. Your mileage may differ.
Look, the girls go to the bars because that is where they can meet men for P4 P. The men go to the bars to get drunk and / or find chicas. The bar owners make a lot of money.
If I wanted to go somewhere for a drink, I would probably not choose a prostitution bar. I do not feel that I owe any debt to bar owners. If I see a girl in a prostitution bar that I am interested in having sex with her, I will probably invite her to go somewhere else to discuss the matter. In my experience there is no evidence at all that buying chicas alcoholic drinks will improve the experience--in fact quite the opposite. Your mileage may differ.That's funny Frannie. The way you attacked the bar owner and went into explaining things I'm pretty sure you are probably that guy sitting at the bar without even buying a water and the bar owner asked you to leave or gets pissed every time you come around. Maybe you should stick to meeting girls at the parks LOL.
Mr Enternational
06-12-16, 04:47
Look, the girls go to the bars because that is where they can meet men for P4 P. The men go to the bars to get drunk and / or find chicas. The bar owners make a lot of money.
If I wanted to go somewhere for a drink, I would probably not choose a prostitution bar. I do not feel that I owe any debt to bar owners. If I see a girl in a prostitution bar that I am interested in having sex with her, I will probably invite her to go somewhere else to discuss the matter. In my experience there is no evidence at all that buying chicas alcoholic drinks will improve the experience--in fact quite the opposite. Your mileage may differ.I agree with you on that. I was just questioning a guy in the Thailand thread about it as well. I like P4P because all I have to show up with is my dick and some money. No sweet talking. No getting a chick drunk to talk her out of her panties. No buying this and that in hopes of getting laid. Give me what I came for and I will give you what you came for.
Girls were friendly and I ended up buying lady drinks to 4 of them. I have started to believe that a few lady drinks helps you earn some familiarity and warmth, although you may need to pay a couple of drinks for the 'friends of the ladies you wish to spend some time with'. Let's accept it as occupational hazard.
Why do you say that? They are hookers. You agree on a price and you go fuck. That is their primary purpose for being there. None of them are going to say you need to buy me and my friends drinks first so that I can get warmed up. As a matter of fact, if I walk in and see you drinking with them at the bar and I simply tell them let's go fuck, they are going to tell you goodbye I have a customer to go with.
My business card reads: 'El Toro Rojo: Putañero, Borracho e Inútil' so I guess I am more of a monger than a drunk but I see all points of view on this subject. Sometimes I want to drink without a bunch of hookers bothering me. Sometimes I want to drink where there are hookers around. Sometimes I want to stay sober to have better sex. Sometimes I want sloppy, drunk sex. In some of these situations, I will buy a chica a drink and in others I won't. It can add to the atmosphere, sometimes. I don't think there is one right answer. Of course, the price of the drinks factors into my decision. And one fairly strict rule I have is that I do not buy more than one drink for a chica, regardless of whether I want to fuck her or not. There will always be (cheaper) booze in my room if it comes to that.
If 100 pesos is too much for you to buy a perspective sex partner a drink while you interview her then maybe you should stand outside and use hand signals.Exactly.
After working hard at home and having my holidays, I want to relax, have fun and enjoy the company and sex with a beautiful young women, not just point and shoot. I don't spend thousands of euros to spend my holidays with other guys (I don't mind having few beers and a chat with some guys, but after one hour I'm out, if there isn't any females present). And if I'm in a bar having a nice chat and few laughs with a woman and I'm drinking beer of course I buy her one, regardless if she's a prostitute or not. It hasn't even come to my mind not to buy somebody a drink just because she's a prostitute. I much prefer the company of the girls than any men (sounds strange in this heterosexual forum, doesn't it, but sometimes it seems that many of you guys just point and shoot and then go back to enjoy your holidays with "the guys") and if I drink they can drink (presidente) too.
Sometimes I want to stay sober to have better sex. Sometimes I want sloppy, drunk sex. In some of these situations, I will buy a chica a drink and in others I won't. It can add to the atmosphere, sometimes. I don't think there is one right answer. Of course, the price of the drinks factors into my decision. And one fairly strict rule I have is that I do not buy more than one drink for a chica, regardless of whether I want to fuck her or not. There will always be (cheaper) booze in my room if it comes to that.I agree. Sometimes I like a chica on my level. I have no problems sharing my lala. I go in the club and I think everything is overpriced. 100 pesos for a small bottle of water. I had el presidentes in my room for chicas, however, I have yet to see a chica finish her drink. I stopped that shit. Water, juice, and fruit in my room now. I sorry what are we talking about. I so high.
Exactly.
After working hard at home and having my holidays, I want to relax, have fun and enjoy the company and sex with a beautiful young women, not just point and shoot. I don't spend thousands of euros to spend my holidays with other guys (I don't mind having few beers and a chat with some guys, but after one hour I'm out, if there isn't any females present). And if I'm in a bar having a nice chat and few laughs with a woman and I'm drinking beer of course I buy her one, regardless if she's a prostitute or not. It hasn't even come to my mind not to buy somebody a drink just because she's a prostitute. I much prefer the company of the girls than any men (sounds strange in this heterosexual forum, doesn't it, but sometimes it seems that many of you guys just point and shoot and then go back to enjoy your holidays with "the guys") and if I drink they can drink (presidente) too.Well said. It amazes me that guys leave their homeland in search of a beautiful girl who wants to spend time with them but they all of the sudden develop morals and care if she is a pro or not. We are on vacation why cares? The shit they pull on these girls they would never try with success in their native land but now they turn judgmental. They act like these girls are the villains, but the guys use their power (money) as a tool, something that wouldn't fly fly in their homeland at the same price. It reminds me of the kid in private school who can't go outside and play because he gets beat up, but then goes to his private school and wants to be a bully.
See, this is why I like true freelance bars where drinks are reasonably priced and they don't charge extra for chicas' drinks. Argentina began enforcing this, as charging more for chica drinks is a form of pimping or profiting off of prostitution. But for example Bar Malibu in SJ, Costa Rica, a very fun place, has cheap drink prices for everyone, so I am relatively free about buying beers for chicas. That place is not strictly working girls, either. The WORST situation, for me, is in places like México, where the chicas get a 'ficha' (commission, essentially) for every drink they can convince you to buy. So in places like Malibu, if a chica asks you to buy her a drink, it's probably mostly because she likes to drink. I can relate to that. In México they give these little itty bitty chica drinks, or sometimes it's not even really booze in there. Fuck a whole bunch of that shit.
I made up for Friday night. Taking an l I recovered hanging out at the bus station. A member of the Wolfpack notice that that was a real good area to just chill in the parking lot. Lots of chica coming to and fro. We were there about 5 o'clock this evening. I noticed two Haitians headed to the strip area. One of them had a fat rabbit jumping out of her shorts. I like Haitians those little young Thundercat are built Ford tough. Just sometimes not the cutest. She wasn't a looker good, I wasn't looking for one. I wanted some makeup from last night action. She had a girl with her she wanted to bring her. As much as I hate being with my boy Dre he is good for backup. He'll take whatever left on the table. I mean whatever is left. We made a deal with the girls 1 mil and if they were good 1500 pesos. Dre was happy I was back at the negotiating table. Both of these women did their damn jobs. I can put them in the league with the best of them. This trip has made me respect the art of giving head. I've had no chica try to run that CBJ Union rule on me. Quite the opposite it's hard for me to tell who was the best. Guess I need more practice. Of course I finally was able to give someone a dress in Sosua. She loved it. When home and 50 minutes later it was on her WhatsApp profile. I love it when they appreciate the little extras.
There were a lot of guys. Classico was packed. So the guys from the UK. Seems everything is good with them. A couple of those guys work professional boxers. Felt sorry for the Chica who had to work out with them. Tonight I settled with a slim pretty chica. I was going to call this night and L because I've set up an appointment with my chica from this afternoon. She deserves an encore. 20 years old my son's age. She's coming back for 1000 Pesos. The one I got tonight was very beautiful. She had a smile that brought sunshine. I normally don't do very slim but she was cute. I told her when a girl is beautiful the sex is terrible. She asked me to try her. 2500 pesos for all night. That's what she gave me. Good price I hadn't hit her with the two hours and then the just give the hour 1 hour price. I did Tomjacking on her. My mama said that chicas can't spend the night with me. She and I settled for a deal. 1500 pesos and if she's good 2000 pesos. And if she so good she can convince me to go against my mother I will give her 2500 a tip and she can stay the night. She did her thing. She couldn't take a pounding but she road me well and I worked her. At first I thought I wouldn't come. Figure I'll just give her the 2000 pesos and wait for tomorrow when my afternoon treat returns. First time I needed Lube this trip. I use my body wash baby oil. Don't laugh it worked. She was happy I came. I asked her what does she want to do now. She asked me was she good I said yes. Okay give me 2000 pesos and I will go. Okay no problem. We got dressed and she said no tip for her. I told her she refused to tip because she's going home. Then I reached in the closet and showed her what her tip could have been. Of course now she's begging me to stay. Now she doesn't want to go home. We can have sex one more time in the morning for 500 pesos and dress. Forget it I got a young Haitian coming in the morning. She pleaded her case for 5 minutes. I only quoted her give me two thousand pesos and I will go. I told her I will repeat with her but not tonight.
I think a lot of the alcohol thing is about overcoming inhibitions. A lot of guys are so hung up about sex that they can't just approach a chica sober and talk to her about having sex, so they have to go through this elaborate process of drinking for hours while they try to pluck up enogh courage. If they are traveling in a group that is a sure sign of insecurity and the problem will be even worse, because they are scared of losing face in front of their friends who are bound to ask them about the sexual experience with the chica the next day. Additionally many of these guys don't speak a significant amount of Spanish, so they can't really have conversations with the chicas when they get to the room, so being drunk provides a useful cover.Some folks can make P4 P very complicated for themselves.
We have folks who spend thousands of dollars, travel thousands of miles, stay in expensive hotels just to meet Sosua hookers. Some bribe them with fake hair, travel with racks of dresses for the hookers, try to impress them with white linen suits, candy or like me, coffee makers :)
Others will not spring for 65 peso beer.
We even have guys that "sneak" into licensed premises without buying to score Sosua putas, LOL.
They float outlandish theories on why guys go to bars in Sosua (or anywhere else for that matter). They are either working up courage to approach a Sosua puta LOL, or have fear of rejection by a Sosua puta LOL, get drunk so they won't have to talk to Sosua puta back in the room. LOL, and worst of all, Oh the humiliation! Losing face with ones travelling companions LOL. I've read bullshit before but this takes the cake!
I go for a beer after work a couple times a week, whether I'm in Sosua or not, don't need no miserable guy in a corner hiding from the owner because he's not buying, trying to psychoanalyze me, while using the restaurant venue to scoop up spare putas. Probably stealing the condiment packages off the table too. There are folks like that who complain when they are asked to leave.
Actually when I'm in my favorite bar with female friends having fun over a couple beers, There IS usually some guy nursing a water or coke eyeing us, hoping for a spin off. Trying to hang with our crowd. I know the type well! and so do the owners and staff.
A newbie reading these posts would be led to believe it will take a 7 year apprenticeship before you can be truly successful with a Sosua puta.
I can see why there's so much negativity on this board, a lot of guys still have no clue what is actually going on in the brothel we call Sosua.
It ain't that complicated, folks. Show 'them your money, they show you their pussy.
Don't be a killjoy. Live and let live!
I made up for Friday night. Taking an l I recovered hanging out at the bus station. A member of the Wolfpack notice that that was a real good area to just chill in the parking lot. Lots of chica coming to and fro. We were there about 5 o'clock this evening. I noticed two Haitians headed to the strip area. One of them had a fat rabbit jumping out of her shorts. I like Haitians those little young Thundercat are built Ford tough. Just sometimes not the cutest. She wasn't a looker good, I wasn't looking for one. I wanted some makeup from last night action. She had a girl with her she wanted to bring her. As much as I hate being with my boy Dre he is good for backup. He'll take whatever left on the table. I mean whatever is left. We made a deal with the girls 1 mil and if they were good 1500 pesos. Dre was happy I was back at the negotiating table. Both of these women did their damn jobs. I can put them in the league with the best of them. This trip has made me respect the art of giving head. I've had no chica try to run that CBJ Union rule on me. Quite the opposite it's hard for me to tell who was the best. Guess I need more practice. Of course I finally was able to give someone a dress in Sosua. She loved it. When home and 50 minutes later it was on her WhatsApp profile. I love it when they appreciate the little extras.
There were a lot of guys. Classico was packed. So the guys from the UK. Seems everything is good with them. A couple of those guys work professional boxers. Felt sorry for the Chica who had to work out with them. Tonight I settled with a slim pretty chica. I was going to call this night and L because I've set up an appointment with my chica from this afternoon. She deserves an encore. 20 years old my son's age. She's coming back for 1000 Pesos. The one I got tonight was very beautiful. She had a smile that brought sunshine. I normally don't do very slim but she was cute. I told her when a girl is beautiful the sex is terrible. She asked me to try her. 2500 pesos for all night. That's what she gave me. Good price I hadn't hit her with the two hours and then the just give the hour 1 hour price. I did Tomjacking on her. My mama said that chicas can't spend the night with me. She and I settled for a deal. 1500 pesos and if she's good 2000 pesos. And if she so good she can convince me to go against my mother I will give her 2500 a tip and she can stay the night. She did her thing. She couldn't take a pounding but she road me well and I worked her. At first I thought I wouldn't come. Figure I'll just give her the 2000 pesos and wait for tomorrow when my afternoon treat returns. First time I needed Lube this trip. I use my body wash baby oil. Don't laugh it worked. She was happy I came. I asked her what does she want to do now. She asked me was she good I said yes. Okay give me 2000 pesos and I will go. Okay no problem. We got dressed and she said no tip for her. I told her she refused to tip because she's going home. Then I reached in the closet and showed her what her tip could have been. Of course now she's begging me to stay. Now she doesn't want to go home. We can have sex one more time in the morning for 500 pesos and dress. Forget it I got a young Haitian coming in the morning. She pleaded her case for 5 minutes. I only quoted her give me two thousand pesos and I will go. I told her I will repeat with her but not tonight.Keep the reports coming G-Man! Thanks.
Tempoecorto
06-12-16, 13:43
It ain't that complicated, folks. Show 'them your money, they show you their pussy.Wow, I see that Frannie touched a raw nerve, with his thought on drinking. I do not think it was personal though.
I agree with what Oakie says, that it ain't that complicated in Sosua, Praise be the Lord! However, over several years, I have read accounts of people here who were self-admittedly "drunk" and as we know bad things happen in twilight foreign lands because of lack of lucidity. As Grownup man wrote and I experienced, the women don't even finish their drinks. So it is more about men drinking and not so much about picking up women and for the record, I enjoy offering a drink, if I am drinking. Perhaps Nordico is right, it is more about bonhomie among males that is the true reason for a trip to Sosua together, and / or bragging rights?
In any case, traveling always alone, I cannot profess to have any special insights on the subject and, I like a drink every now and then but if I go to the DR, I find the women alone are sufficient to keep me "drunK" so I find this fire storm somewhat beguiling.
Some folks can make P4 P very complicated for themselves.
We have folks who spend thousands of dollars, travel thousands of miles, stay in expensive hotels just to meet Sosua hookers. Some bribe them with fake hair, travel with racks of dresses for the hookers, try to impress them with white linen suits, candy or like me, coffee makers :)
Others will not spring for 65 peso beer.
We even have guys that "sneak" into licensed premises without buying to score Sosua putas, LOL.
They float outlandish theories on why guys go to bars in Sosua (or anywhere else for that matter). They are either working up courage to approach a Sosua puta LOL, or have fear of rejection by a Sosua puta LOL, get drunk so they won't have to talk to Sosua puta back in the room. LOL, and worst of all, Oh the humiliation! Losing face with ones travelling companions LOL. I've read bullshit before but this takes the cake!
I go for a beer after work a couple times a week, whether I'm in Sosua or not, don't need no miserable guy in a corner hiding from the owner because he's not buying, trying to psychoanalyze me, while using the restaurant venue to scoop up spare putas. Probably stealing the condiment packages off the table too. There are folks like that who complain when they are asked to leave.No one is trying to psychoanalyze you stopping for a beer at the neighborhood bar on the way home. Or even having a bottle of Presidente while eating lunch and enjoying the breeze at a caseta on the malecon on Puerto Plata. We are talking about prostitution bars in Sosua that have little to offer other than a line-up of prostitutes.
People can do what the hell they want, but remember this discussion was started by Grownman explaining that he didn't go out on the hunt until very late at night because if he went earlier, the women were wanting drinks. If people want to travel to Sosua with a suitcase full of dresses to giver to their favorite prostitutes, then let them go at it.
Losing face with ones travelling companions LOL. I've read bullshit before but this takes the cake!
If you don't think this is a factor that influences the behavior of many visitors to Sosua, then we will just have to agree to disagree.
No one is trying to psychoanalyze you stopping for a beer at the neighborhood bar on the way home. Or even having a bottle of Presidente while eating lunch and enjoying the breeze at a caseta on the malecon on Puerto Plata. We are talking about prostitution bars in Sosua that have little to offer other than a line-up of prostitutes..This is getting quite weird!
Yes, Virgina, we all know that getting drunk is not good. We were talking about the merits of an occasional social drink for oneself while on holiday, and buying one for a prospective business partner (aka hooker).
Do you not realize that without the drinkers, your "bars in Sosua that have little to offer other than a line-up of prostitutes" would not exist and thrive there or anywhere else in the world?
Tell us again what kind of place Sosua would be without Classico, Bermuda, El Centro, Rumba, Bourbon Street, Meringue, Baileys?
It would be dead, just Frannie and his ice cream cone.
There's already this constant denigration of the putas, the locals, and now we start on drinking, and the the prostitution bars, with "little to offer than a line-up of prostitutes" that are bringing me and thousands of others into the area for enjoyment.
If they were smart, those that complain about what goes down Sosua, would be wise to avoid the place.
I would suggest Disneyworld.
Mr Enternational
06-12-16, 21:55
If they are traveling in a group that is a sure sign of insecurity and the problem will be even worse, because they are scared of losing face in front of their friends who are bound to ask them about the sexual experience with the chica the next day.Frannie, have you ever travelled in a group to monger? If so, what kind of questions did your mates ask about your sexual experience the night before? And I am not sure what you mean by losing face in front of their friends. Most people who travel in groups to Sosua are Black. Black people are used to talking shit to each other and having shit talked to them even without hookers being involved. We call it playing the dozens.
My first time in Sosua was with a group and a Haitian buddy of mine had on Timberland boots. I laughed at his ass for bringing boots to the tropics / beach. Did he lose face? No. We talked shit about him for a minute and laughed then it was on to something else. 9 times out of 10 someone does not ask another about the girl from the night before. Usually most people are anxious to tell their stories anyway. And if they didn't then someone may ask how was that chick from last night? You might answer she was alright. Or man that be this that and the other. Then you move on to something else. Or someone would say man I couldn't even get my dick hard then move on to another subject.
Nobody really loses face. I have had friends who Sosua chicas have stolen their money, stolen their camera, etc. We talk about it and laugh and move on to something else. Fill us in on some examples when some of the guys you were mongering with lost face due to something with a chick the night before.
Stripper Love
06-12-16, 23:23
I just wanted to introduce myself and let you you guys know I really appreciate the information you have provided on this board. I will be visiting July 1st-5th and am staying right in the heart of Sosua within walking distance of the beach and all the bars. I have been researching over the past couple weeks and have looked at Campo and Curacao, Blackbeard's, the all inclusive resorts, ect. I was planning on going the safest route with one of the all inclusive resorts (being a Gringo) or Blackbeards, but I really want to experience Sosua. I certainly will be careful and have a good head on my shoulders but still excitingly nervous about my trip. I am going to continue to read up on the board and learn more before my trip, and luckily who I have rented from is from the states and has been traveling to DR from 20 years now and lived in Sosua for 2. He has offered to be my guide in the city. Anyways, thanks again. Now back to doing some research.
Frannie, have you ever travelled in a group to monger? If so, what kind of questions did your mates ask about your sexual experience the night before? And I am not sure what you mean by losing face in front of their friends. Most people who travel in groups to Sosua are Black. Black people are used to talking shit to each other and having shit talked to them even without hookers being involved. We call it playing the dozens.
My first time in Sosua was with a group and a Haitian buddy of mine had on Timberland boots. I laughed at his ass for bringing boots to the tropics / beach. Did he lose face? No. We talked shit about him for a minute and laughed then it was on to something else. 9 times out of 10 someone does not ask another about the girl from the night before. Usually most people are anxious to tell their stories anyway. And if they didn't then someone may ask how was that chick from last night? You might answer she was alright. Or man that be this that and the other. Then you move on to something else. Or someone would say man I couldn't even get my dick hard then move on to another subject.
Nobody really loses face. I have had friends who Sosua chicas have stolen their money, stolen their camera, etc. We talk about it and laugh and move on to something else. Fill us in on some examples when some of the guys you were mongering with lost face due to something with a chick the night before.I have never traveled with other mongers and never will. I do have a couple of monger friends, one of whom lives in the DR, and occasionally we will discuss chica behavior and relationships, but mostly we talk about other subjects of interest. The reason I would not travel with other mongers is that I would not want anyone in my family or my work environment to associate me in any way with prostitution, which although it is legal in the DR, is illegal where I live. And anyway I would not want to be associated with sex tourism either, and would not want my bosses or subordinates on whom I have to produce regular performance evaluations to have any idea that I was not a straight arrow person. Once, a few years ago, I believe I did miss out on a promotion opportunity because of rumors that had circulated about me having had an affair with a married woman over whom I was in a supervisory role, although somewhat indirectly. So my feeling is that it is necessary to maintain very strict barriers between leisure pursuits and family and work, because even someone who is sworn to secrecy may blab under the right circumstances.
In my earliest days in the DR I never wanted to travel with anyone, because I wanted to immerse myself in the language and culture of the DR and go days or weeks without speaking English. Anyway I have lived for an extended period in the DR, so I would have no need to travel with anyone.
As for losing face, I think that a lot of what we see both on this board and on the street is evidence of face saving behavior and a desire to conform to mob pressures, and while I don't want to take this into a discussion of ethnic differences, the newspapers and media in the US are full of reports of casual murders in US cities where someone believes they have been "dissed" (disrespected) by someone else. Have you never heard of this? http://www.inquisitr.com/1193129/lil-marc-dead-chicago-rapper-murdered-days-after-dissing-lil-reese/.
This is getting quite weird!
Yes, Virgina, we all know that getting drunk is not good. We were talking about the merits of an occasional social drink for oneself while on holiday, and buying one for a prospective business partner (aka hooker).
Do you not realize that without the drinkers, your "bars in Sosua that have little to offer other than a line-up of prostitutes" would not exist and thrive there or anywhere else in the world?
Tell us again what kind of place Sosua would be without Classico, Bermuda, El Centro, Rumba, Bourbon Street, Meringue, Baileys?
It would be dead, just Frannie and his ice cream cone.
There's already this constant denigration of the putas, the locals, and now we start on drinking, and the the prostitution bars, with "little to offer than a line-up of prostitutes" that are bringing me and thousands of others into the area for enjoyment.
If they were smart, those that complain about what goes down Sosua, would be wise to avoid the place.
I would suggest Disneyworld.All I said was that I don't feel any sense of obligation to the bars to buy unwanted drinks for myself, and there is no need to buy the women drinks. I would be more likely to buy her a sandwich or a beer at the cabana, if that is what she wanted, but mostly they don't really want the beer, though often they are hungry. I don't believe that alcohol makes the sex better, in fact I think it makes it worse, especially on my side, and I don't care for chicas whose breath smells of beer and cigarettes. I do not need alcohol for beer goggles to have sex with women whom I do not find attractive. I select women whom I find sexually attractive. Of course this is purely a personal preference. Your tastes may differ.
All I said was that I don't feel any sense of obligation to the bars to buy unwanted drinks for myself, and there is no need to buy the women drinks. I would be more likely to buy her a sandwich or a beer at the cabana, if that is what she wanted, but mostly they don't really want the beer, though often they are hungry. I don't believe that alcohol makes the sex better, in fact I think it makes it worse, especially on my side, and I don't care for chicas whose breath smells of beer and cigarettes. I do not need alcohol for beer goggles to have sex with women whom I do not find attractive. I select women whom I find sexually attractive. Of course this is purely a personal preference. Your tastes may differ.There is a difference between your extreme analogies, beer goggles, drinking for hours to get up courage, fear of rejection, fear of conversation with a puta, fear of losing face along with extreme compulsive, obsessive behavior, alcohol and tobacco dependency, and commonly accepted social norms.
All that "fear" stuff says more about you than anyone else.
There is balance. A glass of wine with dinner, a cold beer on a hot day, with a chica, even a good cigar smoked outdoors on a special occasion does not mean one is on the road to depravity.
You don't seem to know the difference, and assume nobody else does either.
You decry puta bars, but you are not averse to trolling these same bars to find women to take somewhere else. It's hard to keep up with your elite, special tastes :)
Well, at least you like your Sosua hookers. So you do come down to earth occasionally, and I'm sure you find their own particular habits and dependencies much more to your taste :)
Mr Enternational
06-13-16, 01:16
the newspapers and media in the US are full of reports of casual murders in US cities where someone believes they have been "dissed" (disrespected) by someone else. Have you never heard of this? http://www.inquisitr.com/1193129/lil-marc-dead-chicago-rapper-murdered-days-after-dissing-lil-reese/.But these are hoodrats who have probably literally never even been out of their neighborhood. These guys more than likely do not even posses a driver's license and can not even spell passport. So to even think of them travelling with a group of friends would be ludicrous.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=51vFbsZkhXU
I am in total agreement with Mr E twice in one day. The guys who come with friends are all working 40 hours plus to pay for their fun. Most are very up standing citizens. Many of them are black men. Rarely have I seen them out of order. Sometimes loud but fuck they are on vacation. I have seen white guys way more out of control with drinking and being rowdy. So please do not confuse these guys with the sad hood rats E correctly identified. Sadly they are viewed in the same light. We call that prejudice.
But these are hoodrats who have probably literally never even been out of their neighborhood. These guys more than likely do not even posses a driver's license and can not even spell passport. So to even think of them travelling with a group of friends would be ludicrous.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=51vFbsZkhXU
I just wanted to introduce myself and let you you guys know I really appreciate the information you have provided on this board. I will be visiting July 1st-5th and am staying right in the heart of Sosua within walking distance of the beach and all the bars. I have been researching over the past couple weeks and have looked at Campo and Curacao, Blackbeard's, the all inclusive resorts, ect. I was planning on going the safest route with one of the all inclusive resorts (being a Gringo) or Blackbeards, but I really want to experience Sosua. I certainly will be careful and have a good head on my shoulders but still excitingly nervous about my trip. I am going to continue to read up on the board and learn more before my trip, and luckily who I have rented from is from the states and has been traveling to DR from 20 years now and lived in Sosua for 2. He has offered to be my guide in the city. Anyways, thanks again. Now back to doing some research.That's really nice of him, offering to be your guide in the city. Which city? Because Sosua doesn't really qualify. Everything is within a 10-15 minute walk of the Texaco. Every place you'll want to see, except for the beach is within 1 block. If he's asking more than 100 pesos for a beer, he's ripping you off.
As for losing face, I think that a lot of what we see both on this board and on the street is evidence of face saving behavior and a desire to conform to mob pressures, and while I don't want to take this into a discussion of ethnic differences, the newspapers and media in the US are full of reports of casual murders in US cities where someone believes they have been "dissed" (disrespected) by someone else. Have you never heard of this? http://www.inquisitr.com/1193129/lil-marc-dead-chicago-rapper-murdered-days-after-dissing-lil-reese/.Would the guy who has hacked our Frannie's account give it up? Our normally sensible expert on all thing Sosua seems to have flipped out.
Or maybe he caught his GF sneaking a beer and a smoke in a, gasp!, Prostitution Bar.
Or maybe it's just his coffee?
Anyway we want our old pal back soon.
As for the "mob" as he calls them, I would like to go on record as saying in close to ten years the NJ and NY crowd have been very instrumental in my trip enjoyment. From the early days, when they had their bikini booty parties around the pool at Casa Cayena, to a couple of individuals I have met and always look forward to seeing. (If you walk around with a big smile, and the ladies hang off you, it may even be you!) I'd rather they have my back if there's trouble.
The only trouble I recall having down there was with white mongers (The Watchers, I call them) who biatch and complain, and never seem to be able to have fun.
Stripper Love
06-13-16, 12:06
That's really nice of him, offering to be your guide in the city. Which city? Because Sosua doesn't really qualify. Everything is within a 10-15 minute walk of the Texaco. Every place you'll want to see, except for the beach is within 1 block. If he's asking more than 100 pesos for a beer, he's ripping you off.I guess guide is the wrong term. More of a resource. He is just giving me tips on good restaurants, excursions if I would like, where I should and shouldn't go, and going out with me if I want. A lot of that I can get on here but he is from the US and has great reviews on AirBnB so I think he will be a good resource for my first trip. I did let him know I was just there for relaxation and pleasure so the beach during the day and the restaurants / bars in the evenings in Sosua are all I am really interested in. And of course bring back chicas to my place LOL.
What we are trying to tell you is you do not need a guide in Sosua. The place is very small and everything is in walking distance. Once you are on the scene this will be very obvious to you. Two major clubs one main beach and one optional. Take 30 minutes to read forum posts and you will be an expert.
I guess guide is the wrong term. More of a resource. He is just giving me tips on good restaurants, excursions if I would like, where I should and shouldn't go, and going out with me if I want. A lot of that I can get on here but he is from the US and has great reviews on AirBnB so I think he will be a good resource for my first trip. I did let him know I was just there for relaxation and pleasure so the beach during the day and the restaurants / bars in the evenings in Sosua are all I am really interested in. And of course bring back chicas to my place LOL.
Mr Enternational
06-13-16, 14:46
I guess guide is the wrong term. More of a resource. He is just giving me tips on good restaurants, excursions if I would like, where I should and shouldn't go, and going out with me if I want. A lot of that I can get on here but he is from the US and has great reviews on AirBnB so I think he will be a good resource for my first trip. I did let him know I was just there for relaxation and pleasure so the beach during the day and the restaurants / bars in the evenings in Sosua are all I am really interested in. And of course bring back chicas to my place LOL.Dude, Sosua is pretty much 1 street. Okay 3 streets, but who is counting. The only resource you need is someone telling you which way is the exit from your hotel. Not many excursions either. You could go to 27 Charcos outside of Imbert, Waterworld, Teleferico, or the malecon in Puerto Plata, the castle with art that CharlesPooter hooked us on to, and Cabarete. Other than that you just hang out at the beach, street, and later on bars to pick up chicks. There aren't but a few restaurants so you could eat at a different one each day and have them all covered during your stay. You would look and feel like a total jackazz having someone leading you around Sosua.
I guess guide is the wrong term. More of a resource. He is just giving me tips on good restaurants, excursions if I would like, where I should and shouldn't go, and going out with me if I want. A lot of that I can get on here but he is from the US and has great reviews on AirBnB so I think he will be a good resource for my first trip. I did let him know I was just there for relaxation and pleasure so the beach during the day and the restaurants / bars in the evenings in Sosua are all I am really interested in. And of course bring back chicas to my place LOL.I don't know. If the guide is driving you around in an air conditioned vehicle, speaks good Spanish, and available any time you need him for a flat daily fee, he could be a very useful resource for a first visit and make it possible to get out and about more than you would otherwise. I had someone like that on my very first visit to the DR many years ago. On the other hand, if he is just out to get commissions from restaurants and tour operators and finders fees from night clubs, then it is a rather different story /.
I guess guide is the wrong term. More of a resource. He is just giving me tips on good restaurants, excursions if I would like, where I should and shouldn't go, and going out with me if I want. A lot of that I can get on here but he is from the US and has great reviews on AirBnB so I think he will be a good resource for my first trip. I did let him know I was just there for relaxation and pleasure so the beach during the day and the restaurants / bars in the evenings in Sosua are all I am really interested in. And of course bring back chicas to my place LOL.I'm not saying he is a bad guy. He's probably just being helpful and making it easier for you to choose his rental.
My opinion is that AirBnB is usually the wrong choice for a first time Sosua visitor. The apartment is probably not conveniently located. This puts you at the mercy of taxis or your host to go anywhere. Then you need another taxi or motoconcho to get back with your conquest.
For about the same price there are several nice hotels where everything is a few minutes away.
Over breakfast or dinner at Hotel Sosua Sunrise (formerly Casa Cayena, or over a beer at New Garden, Casa Valeria or Hotel Plaza Europa, you can find plenty of American tourists with all the information you need.
You did avoid a mistake by not booking and all-inclusive resort. They won't let you bring chicas back to your room.
Charles Pooter
06-13-16, 18:11
... the castle with art that Charles Pooter hooked us on to ...Thanks, but I cannot take credit. It's pretty well-known. It is called Castillo Mundo King. Used to be free entry but I think they are now charging. Still worth a visit, especially if you have a Haitian chica in tow. Take a chance to talk to the eccentric owner if possible. He lives there. So you wander into one room and it's full of statues. You wander into the next room and his mattress and underpants are on the floor. I thought it was a Tracey Emin homage.
Half-mile uphill up the turning alongside the cop shop. Take a moto unless a strong walker.
http://castillodelmundo.webs.com
Thanks, but I cannot take credit. It's pretty well-known. It is called Castillo Mundo King. Used to be free entry but I think they are now charging. Still worth a visit, especially if you have a Haitian chica in tow. Take a chance to talk to the eccentric owner if possible. He lives there. So you wander into one room and it's full of statues. You wander into the next room and his mattress and underpants are on the floor. I thought it was a Tracey Emin homage.
Half-mile uphill up the turning alongside the cop shop. Take a moto unless a strong walker.
http://castillodelmundo.webs.comI was charged 300 pesos. Other than the guy who asked for the money I didn't see another person. Good place to visit.
Would the guy who has hacked our Frannie's account give it up? Our normally sensible expert on all thing Sosua seems to have flipped out.
Or maybe he caught his GF sneaking a beer and a smoke in a, gasp!, Prostitution Bar.
Or maybe it's just his coffee?
Anyway we want our old pal back soon.
Rest assured, no one has hacked my account, and I have not changed. Sometimes I just want to offer an alternative opinion to the groupthink that tends to predominate on these boards. My interest in Sosua is as a place where you can have interesting sexual experiences of all kinds with attractive women for not very much money, not to promote any particular lifestyle based on a consumption of various types of intoxicants, love of a particular kind of music, style of dress, and so on.
My comments on this topic just started because I was struck by Grownman's odd comment that he went out very, very late at night, because earlier on the chicas were looking for drinks. I have found it perfectly easy to have sex with chicas at any time of day and never felt any need to buy any of them drinks. You can buy them drinks if you want to, but you don't have to.
Oh, and I can assure you that I enjoy every moment I am in Sosua, even though I hardly ever drink alcohol and never smoke tobacco or weed.
Stripper Love
06-14-16, 00:12
I'm not saying he is a bad guy. He's probably just being helpful and making it easier for you to choose his rental.
My opinion is that AirBnB is usually the wrong choice for a first time Sosua visitor. The apartment is probably not conveniently located. This puts you at the mercy of taxis or your host to go anywhere. Then you need another taxi or motoconcho to get back with your conquest.
For about the same price there are several nice hotels where everything is a few minutes away.
Over breakfast or dinner at Hotel Sosua Sunrise (formerly Casa Cayena, or over a beer at New Garden, Casa Valeria or Hotel Plaza Europa, you can find plenty of American tourists with all the information you need.
You did avoid a mistake by not booking and all-inclusive resort. They won't let you bring chicas back to your room.I did my research before booking and I am a couple blocks away from all the bars on Pedro Clisante, and about 4 blocks from the beach. But yes, I originally was looking into all-inclusive resorts when deciding between Dominican Republic, Curacao, etc. But with all of the help from you guys on this forum and others I learned about not being able to take the chicas back and also about all of the much better food you can get for less at local restaurants.
My interest in Sosua is as a place where you can have interesting sexual experiences of all kinds with attractive women for not very much money, not to promote any particular lifestyle based on a consumption of various types of intoxicants, love of a particular kind of music, style of dress, and so on.
I have found it perfectly easy to have sex with chicas at any time of day and never felt any need to buy any of them drinks. You can buy them drinks if you want to, but you don't have to.I don't care what you want to promote or not to promote. Just don't make your complaints personal to me. I don't care if you want to rant against your favorite bogey man, if you use me as an example of your pet hates and you'll hear from me, to set the record straight.
You don't know me, or my habits, and yet you pile on the inuendo as above. It's basically the "YOU" in you can drink for hours, to get your beer goggles on, work up courage, save face, the other shit, or as above "YOU don't have to buy them drinks" to have sex with them. It's the "YOU" stupid!
For the record, I don't actually drink as a rule, only in social situations, and then only lite beer. Never drink at home if alone, never buy booze to take there or bring back, always give the guest bottles of alcohol they give us in the room to the buss boy, or the maids or the GF if she has room to stow it when we leave. The chica and I never drink in our room, except maybe for one on the patio we brought unfinished from the bar.
I have probably set a record at least a couple times at the all inclusive Casa Marina, by not having one free drink from the multiple bars all week. I only drink offsite, because (a) our "cousins" and friends are down on the main drag, (b) they don't have lite beer, which is all I drink, and (c) they serve it in small plastic cups, which is no substutute for the ice covered bottles they dress up like penguins with napkins at the "cousins" bar. Tastes good on a hot day!
GF prefers coke or Red Bull and has never smoked, in fact she was instrumental in helping me quit smoking a couple years ago. We are in bed by 10 and I can't remember the last time I was in Classico.
(That Presidente Lite she holds up at the bar when I arrive at PP is a symbolic gesture only. Let the vacation begin!) LOL.
I don't care what you want to promote or not to promote. Just don't make your complaints personal to me. I don't care if you want to rant against your favorite bogey man, if you use me as an example of your pet hates and you'll hear from me, to set the record straight.
You don't know me, or my habits, and yet you pile on the inuendo as above. It's basically the "YOU" in you can drink for hours, to get your beer goggles on, work up courage, save face, the other shit, or as above "YOU don't have to buy them drinks" to have sex with them. It's the "YOU" stupid!
For the record, Stop crying in your cups! You are becoming maudlin. Nothing I have written has been personal to you, unless you decided to take it that way, which apparently you have. However, as Bob Marley said "And who the cap fit, let them wear it".
Stop crying in your cups! You are becoming maudlin. Nothing I have written has been personal to you, unless you decided to take it that way, which apparently you have. However, as Bob Marley said "And who the cap fit, let them wear it".Nobody's crying pal, just having fun widja!
Interesting you should quote Marley, one of ganjas most famous promoters.
(For a moment it thought you might be down on certain groups).
Frannie:
"I think that a lot of what we see both on this board and on the street is evidence of face saving behavior and a desire to conform to mob pressures, and while I don't want to take this into a discussion of ethnic differences, the newspapers and media in the US are full of reports of casual murders in US cities where someone believes they have been "dissed" (disrespected) by someone else ".
But if the cap fits, eh?
SavePros321
06-15-16, 02:35
But yes, I originally was looking into all-inclusive resorts when deciding between Dominican Republic, Curacao, etc. But with all of the help from you guys on this forum and others I learned about not being able to take the chicas back and also about all of the much better food you can get for less at local restaurants.Did you every look into Blackbeard Resort in Puerto Plata? They have chicas on site and is not as expensive as those all-inclusive tourist traps in the DR. Lost my DR Cherry there on my very first mongering trip out of the US, met some guys there who heard about some place named "Classicos" in some place called "Sosua". We took taxis there the last two nights of our trip and the rest is history, LOL!
Here is the link: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3458-Blackbeards-Resort.
Stripper Love
06-15-16, 11:59
Did you every look into Blackbeard Resort in Puerto Plata? They have chicas on site and is not as expensive as those all-inclusive tourist traps in the DR. Lost my DR Cherry there on my very first mongering trip out of the US, met some guys there who heard about some place named "Classicos" in some place called "Sosua". We took taxis there the last two nights of our trip and the rest is history, LOL!
Here is the link: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3458-Blackbeards-Resort.I did look into Blackbeard's. That would have been the safe bet on my first trip, but I am always a "grass is greener on the other side" kinda guy LOL. I know it would have eaten at me that I didn't go to Sosua and see the best action. I guess I could have taken a taxi to Sosua one night like you guys did, but I like knowing I am within walking distance of all the places I need to be in Sosua and have no need for taxis / motos. I have a feeling I am going to be falling love with the DR (but not a chica) haha.
I think you are making the right choice. Sosua offers so much more than BB. Once you experience Sosua you do not need BB. Once you know how to ride a bike you do not put the training wheels back on.
I did look into Blackbeard's. That would have been the safe bet on my first trip, but I am always a "grass is greener on the other side" kinda guy LOL. I know it would have eaten at me that I didn't go to Sosua and see the best action. I guess I could have taken a taxi to Sosua one night like you guys did, but I like knowing I am within walking distance of all the places I need to be in Sosua and have no need for taxis / motos. I have a feeling I am going to be falling love with the DR (but not a chica) haha.
I think you are making the right choice. Sosua offers so much more than BB. Once you experience Sosua you do not need BB. Once you know how to ride a bike you do not put the training wheels back on.I agree.
Think of Sosua as just a bigger version of Blackbeards but with many more options, choices, activites, MPs, and decent restaurants. I'm wondering how I'd feel at BB if the guy ahead of me decided to take the two hottest chicas for a day or two and kept me waiting :)
If there wasn't a Sosua, you'd need a Blackbeards.
I think you are making the right choice. Sosua offers so much more than BB. Once you experience Sosua you do not need BB. Once you know how to ride a bike you do not put the training wheels back on.I think individuals have to make their own choices based on their needs. I went to Blackbeards on my first trip to the DR and I also had a guide with a car who showed me round the north coast. At that point in time I did not speak much Spanish, having 6 weeks of study under my belt, and although I had traveled the world extensively and been to many countries, I had not traveled outside the US, except to Britain, France, Germany, and the Netherlands, for several years and knew absolutely nothing about Dominican culture, food, or anything. I would not go to Blackbeards now, but at the time it was perfect for my needs. If I had gone to Sosua straight away, I might have been overwhelmed with the culture, language, food, and, of course, the women. Now I speak Spanish fluently and my whole perspective on the DR is very different from on my first visit.
I did look into Blackbeard's. That would have been the safe bet on my first trip, but I am always a "grass is greener on the other side" kinda guy LOL. I know it would have eaten at me that I didn't go to Sosua and see the best action. I guess I could have taken a taxi to Sosua one night like you guys did, but I like knowing I am within walking distance of all the places I need to be in Sosua and have no need for taxis / motos. I have a feeling I am going to be falling love with the DR (but not a chica) haha.To each his own, of course. My Spanish is very good, but I lack the patience to play games, and trips back and forth from clubs to my hotel.
Personally, I've tried Sosua, and BB, and my taste runs to BB.
I usually recommend BB, especially to newbies, for its convenience.
Many tout the "hunting" process, "game" etc. I usually have limited time, and lack the patience for trolling the bars, playing games, etc.
I usually compare it to fishing. Some go for the "fishing experience" and landing a good one for them is most of the fun. Sometimes you land a beauty, sometimes nothing, the catch is "spoiled" or poor pickings.
I, on the other hand, go there to spend my time "eating seafood" not spending most of my time "fishing. ".
Some call it "spoon feeding" as a put down to one's "game" skills. Screw that, if I'm on vacation, spoon feed me.
If I see one I like, its a short stroll to my room, versus taking a motoconcho back to the hotel, check in, etc. Cuts into my "eating seafood" time.
Despite the recent bad experience one guest had, covered on the BB thread, over all, the quality control at BB is good.
You'll see lots more reports of drama queens, "starfish" poor performance, scams, etc on the Sosua thread than on BB.
Bad experiences at BB are rare. Drugs, theft, scams, etc are a good way for a girl to get barred. No one is going to call the cops on you. Not the chica, not the hotel.
You also have the benefit of regular STD testing (I have watched chicas handing their papers to a mamasan, and driven a chica to her med appt).
To each his own. Try both and write a report on your experiences.
Suerte,
Y69.
"La vida es un ratico, un ratico, nada mas. " - Juanes.
Stripper Love
06-17-16, 00:34
I appreciate all of your thoughts and advice fellas. I am definitely not fluent in Spanish but its unbelievable how much I have learned in just a couple days using google translator to talk to girls on whatsapp. I will certainly report on my experience and I do think I will split the trip I take after this one between Sosua and Blackbeards. This go around I will be exploring Sosua.
I appreciate all of your thoughts and advice fellas. I am definitely not fluent in Spanish but its unbelievable how much I have learned in just a couple days using google translator to talk to girls on whatsapp. I will certainly report on my experience and I do think I will split the trip I take after this one between Sosua and Blackbeards. This go around I will be exploring Sosua.LOL. There is never a shortage of opinion on this board!
I learned all the Spanish I need to operate down there by operating down there. Due to lack of education, most of the chicas use a very limited vocabulary, and even many of these few words are either misspelled or otherwise are not formal spanish and are not translatable, say, by Google.
I started off with some online lessons, but soon gave up when the chicas didn't understand the words I was using. So I get by quite well with just what I have picked up, except I can't understand rapid conversational stuff (although I can pick up the gist of the conversation).
I agree learning the language is very useful, like any second language, but unless you are going to spend a great deal of time there, or are in love with a professional, it is not really necessary for the casual monger.
(Now relax you guys, this is only MY opinion!)
LOL. There is never a shortage of opinion on this board!
I learned all the Spanish I need to operate down there by operating down there. Due to lack of education, most of the chicas use a very limited vocabulary, and even many of these few words are either misspelled or otherwise are not formal spanish and are not translatable, say, by Google.You could say the same about employees in the US or the UK speaking English.
I started off with some online lessons, but soon gave up when the chicas didn't understand the words I was using. So I get by quite well with just what I have picked up, except I can't understand rapid conversational stuff (although I can pick up the gist of the conversation).If it was really true that speakers of Dominican dialect cannot understand standard Spanish, they would not be able to understand the TV news in their own country, or the words in the pop songs they hear on the radio.
I agree learning the language is very useful, like any second language, but unless you are going to spend a great deal of time there, or are in love with a professional, it is not really necessary for the casual monger.
(Now relax you guys, this is only MY opinion!)Depends on the reason for learning the second language, as you say. True that casual mongers can get by without Spanish, but also true that with enhanced Spanish you can usually have better sexual experiences and get more out of Dominican culture in general.
You could say the same about employees in the US or the UK speaking English.
If it was really true that speakers of Dominican dialect cannot understand standard Spanish, they would not be able to understand the TV news in their own country, or the words in the pop songs they hear on the radio.
Depends on the reason for learning the second language, as you say. True that casual mongers can get by without Spanish, but also true that with enhanced Spanish you can usually have better sexual experiences and get more out of Dominican culture in general.I don't want to get down in the weeds with you here again Frannie, but there are many localized versions of lengua de Espana, but the newbie is likely to be looking at commercial language programs like Pimsleur or Rosetta leaning formal Spanish. Not the bastardized version popular among the putas.
And no, I don't believe Domincans can't understand "the TV news in their own country" That's just silly! Hey they can even understand me :)
More on topic, have you gotten laid in Sosua recently? Tell us about that!
BigTimeFun
06-17-16, 19:36
I'm "Dead man walking", it's the prison term for guys walking to the execution chambers. I'm headed to the airport in SDQ after an island hop with a board member for 7 days. He had never been to Sosua, Puerto plata, and Boca Chica. Even though my " Old Sosua" is gone, let me say we had a blast. I'm headed to the airport feeling drained and guilty because no one should have the fun we had.
I even ran into Brother P as he tried to sneak in a Sosua quickly before Colombia. The rate now is 45.70. The new road going from SD to Sosua was smooth. And the ride down the coast from Nagua through Gaspar Hernandez, Ro Sanjuan was improved.
I'm going to let the board member lead out as not to step on his toes. He will probably save some details for the "Gogo forum" to save the arguments here.
Stay tuned.Which road is newly paved? I will be taking that trip soon.
Which road is newly paved? I will be taking that trip soon.The whole trip down the coast between Nagua and Sosua is improved Sir. Have you driven this before? Is it your first time to the DR? Reason I ask because it's very tricky for newbies. Miss the turnoff and you are back in SD.
Tempoecorto
06-18-16, 03:24
Got to Sosua around 4 pm on Metro bus from Santiago. 220 pesos. Did not have much food during the day and so went for dinner at 6. The French place is Open. It is called Carpe Diem, opposite side of Mama Juana. I had a slice of veal with my favorite vegetable side dish (the veg on the left and right sides of the meat- a medley of zucchini, eggplant, bell pepper, tomato and so forth) The check was pricey. Red wine, beer, excellent bread, appetizer of endive with Gruyere. It came to 1300 pesos. Things were slow at this specific restaurant but anyone interested in French food, and / or Fish, do go and look up Etienne.
Sorry to interject with my non sexual theme but I love food as much as sex.
I don't want to get down in the weeds with you here again Frannie, but there are many localized versions of lengua de Espana, but the newbie is likely to be looking at commercial language programs like Pimsleur or Rosetta leaning formal Spanish. Not the bastardized version popular among the putas.
And no, I don't believe Domincans can't understand "the TV news in their own country" That's just silly! Hey they can even understand me :)
More on topic, have you gotten laid in Sosua recently? Tell us about that!I don't think there is any reason to think that the Spanish of Pimsleur or Rosetta will not be understood. I originally learned Spanish from compact discs and was understood. If you speak to people like doctors and teachers in Sosua you will be understood, and also by sex workers. Obviously they will not speak back at you in exactly the same style of Spanish, but so what?
A gentleman does not kiss and tell, but I will note that hardly anyone on these boards ever writes about having sex in massage parlors in Sosua, which can be fun. The upside is that you don't have to pay for a room, the downside is that they don't have proper showers or beds, so you have to have the girl get on top of you on the massage bed, or have her stand on the floor, and you can't make a lot of noise. Anyway, there is something delightfully sleazy about having sex with a cutie while pedestrians walk past a few feet away, or someone else is getting a massage on the other side of a screen. I hesitate to mention any exact names or locations, because you never know who is reading these boards and I don't want to get anyone into trouble, but if you were leaving the front door of the New Garden hotel, you could turn to either the left or the right and get laid within 150 yards.
Mr Enternational
06-18-16, 14:54
A gentleman does not kiss and tell, but I will note that hardly anyone on these boards ever writes about having sex in massage parlors in Sosua, which can be fun. The upside is that you don't have to pay for a room, the downside is that they don't have proper showers or beds, so you have to have the girl get on top of you on the massage bed, or have her stand on the floor, and you can't make a lot of noise. Two more downsides are that the girl at Belkis told me they don't have AC, and they want just as much for short time as I could get a girl for long time. And another downside is the massage girls/hookers don't look good. Probably best served for the guy who doesn't have much time to be away from his wife. But then he comes back all sweaty and smelling like pussy.
I don't think there is any reason to think that the Spanish of Pimsleur or Rosetta will not be understood. I originally learned Spanish from compact discs and was understood. If you speak to people like doctors and teachers in Sosua you will be understood, and also by sex workers. Obviously they will not speak back at you in exactly the same style of Spanish, but so what?
A gentleman does not kiss and tell, but I will note that hardly anyone on these boards ever writes about having sex in massage parlors in Sosua, which can be fun. The upside is that you don't have to pay for a room, the downside is that they don't have proper showers or beds, so you have to have the girl get on top of you on the massage bed, or have her stand on the floor, and you can't make a lot of noise. Anyway, there is something delightfully sleazy about having sex with a cutie while pedestrians walk past a few feet away, or someone else is getting a massage on the other side of a screen. I hesitate to mention any exact names or locations, because you never know who is reading these boards and I don't want to get anyone into trouble, but if you were leaving the front door of the New Garden hotel, you could turn to either the left or the right and get laid within 150 yards.I can't get excited with another monger going at it a couple of feet away, but your tastes obviously vary :)
As always, to each is own!
http://www.puertoplatadigital.com/Mobile/verNoticia.aspx?Id=21970
Many of the massage girls are failed putas. Generally age has caught up with them. I enjoy a massage on my trips. The truth is you end up paying to much for the quality. I have had been given some world class BJs by massage girls. If you need one for the road they are not a bad option.
I can't get excited with another monger going at it a couple of feet away, but your tastes obviously vary :)
As always, to each is own!
Ath Trainer
06-18-16, 21:04
Many of the massage girls are failed putas. Generally age has caught up with them. I enjoy a massage on my trips. The truth is you end up paying to much for the quality. I have had been given some world class BJs by massage girls. If you need one for the road they are not a bad option.Coming out of NG, if you make a left, theres a girl on your right. Always trying to get you to come for a massage. If I remember correctly from my visit last summer, she looked ok from a far. Any 411?
Coming out of NG, if you make a left, theres a girl on your right. Always trying to get you to come for a massage. If I remember correctly from my visit last summer, she looked ok from a far. Any 411?I didn't stop at that one, but did stop twice at the one down next to the laundry, across the street from Casa Cayena. Price was 600 p for an hour massage, and extra 1000 p for a happy ending. First one had a rough face, pretty good body and gave a good BBBJCIMDT and didn't spill a drop. And the massage was good. Second one looked good all over, but was just offering hand jobs.
The downside is they don't change they towels where you rest your face. I picked up strep throat in Sosua and I'm pretty sure that is where I got it.
BigTimeFun
06-18-16, 22:23
The whole trip down the coast between Nagua and Sosua is improved Sir. Have you driven this before? Is it your first time to the DR? Reason I ask because it's very tricky for newbies. Miss the turnoff and you are back in SD.I have driven several routes from SD to Sosua including this one. And I did miss a turn off more than once. The signage is not very good. Have the signs improved?
I have driven several routes from SD to Sosua including this one. And I did miss a turn off more than once. The signage is not very good. Have the signs improved?No. I've actually missed that turnoff while looking for it. There is a sign but it can be blocked by a truck or you can cruise by it. I knew I missed it because the signs when you miss it start stating the distance to SD. That's when I pulled over and asked someone. I'm talking about the Nagua turnoff. You figure the Dominicans would have a lead up sign saying " turn for Sosua / Cabarette in 2 miles".
Just leaving the airport (SDQ) looking for that toll road is tricky. Miss it and you will end up on Espana. I've driven that route about 12 times so my photographic memory has all the tricks. Good luck.
Two more downsides are that the girl at Belkis told me they don't have AC, and they want just as much for short time as I could get a girl for long time. And another downside is the massage girls/hookers don't look good. Probably best served for the guy who doesn't have much time to be away from his wife. But then he comes back all sweaty and smelling like pussy.They don't have AC, but they do have fans, and probably they were trying to tell you that one of the frequent power outages was in effect.
Well, obviously for it to work, you have to be attracted to the girl and have to be able to agree on a mutually agreeable price. I would say that three out of ten of my best sexual experiences ever were with massage girls. One was young and innocent and I had known her for four years before our relationship was consummated, one was an absolute stunner, and the other was one I had lusted after for quite a while. I would agree that a lot of the massage "therapists" are sub par in terms of beauty, and of course they are not made up and dressed up, but sometimes you find a jewel in the rough.
Leaving sweaty and / or oily is a real problem with massages when it is hot. Actually they will usually clean you down with damp cloths and wipe off with paper towels. However there is a good argument to be made sometimes for having a nice erotic massage without happy ending, and saving the happy ending for later with another partner, so as not to walk out into the street drained, oily, hot, and in need of a good shower and a sleep. If you have a massage without happy ending, you are more likely to walk out relaxed, but energized and feeling like you are walking on air.
However any true monger will want to give all varieties of sexual experience a try, so the massage parlors are a thing.
I can't get excited with another monger going at it a couple of feet away, Performance anxiety?
Tourism officials in Sosua demand an end to prostitution. Details in the Gogo forum.
Performance anxiety?No, I just prefer clean sheets. Your tastes may vary!
No, I just prefer clean sheets. Your tastes may vary!I prefer clean sheets too, but I am not sure how much it affects my ability to become excited. I agree that it can be hard to be aroused if you are distracted by features of the environment.
I prefer clean sheets too, but I am not sure how much it affects my ability to become excited. I agree that it can be hard to be aroused if you are distracted by features of the environment.Lying on sticky towels, and having some broad with one hand on my dick, and the other on her cell phone, telling the other guys to wait, or playing Candy Crush doesn't quite do it for me.
Your tastes may vary!
Tempoecorto
06-19-16, 17:59
Went to Caribe express in Chara micos to change money as the western union in town is closed. 45.80. On the way back stopped at Playero to buy a few food items hoping to be at lunch at one of the Italian places on the main street. All closed. Walking back to hotel, passed by a young woman standing on the sidewalk, and in sweltering heat. Went to speak with her. Haven't done anything the night before and sex before lunch was an appetizing idea. She was not dressed up or anything. She tentatively suggested 1000 pesos and was plaintively wondering if I had the money.
We went in to my place and both of us needed to have a shower it being a hot and humid day. She washed me and in the end, I finished the job in the shower booth itself. As she was getting dressed up, I gave her the money and a box of cookies I had just bought. She took the money, looked up and said, "me salvaste la vida". Just another day in paradise!
Lying on sticky towels, and having some broad with one hand on my dick, and the other on her cell phone, telling the other guys to wait, or playing Candy Crush doesn't quite do it for me.
Your tastes may vary!You old romantic, you! You don't want your chicas multitasking when you have just gifted them flowers and chocolates. Mine usually need both hands to massage the affected area, and this is where a knowledge of Spanish numerals greater than 1 comes in useful.
You old romantic, you! You don't want your chicas multitasking when you have just gifted them flowers and chocolates. Mine usually need both hands to massage the affected area, and this is where a knowledge of Spanish numerals greater than 1 comes in useful.No flowers or chocolate in 9 years. (so far).
A coffee machine, which I get to use when I'm there.
Peace!
Tourism officials in Sosua demand an end to prostitution. Details in the Gogo forum.Well that's never happened before!
Well that's never happened before!LOL, I know brother. It's part of the six month cycle LOL.
In other news from Sosua three Americans were arrested. For what you ask? Taking pictures of a model with her clothes on.
SavePros321
06-20-16, 00:18
Tourism officials in Sosua demand an end to prostitution. Details in the Gogo forum.Is there an election coming up? Let's not forget that elected officials often have to prostitute themselves in order to win votes and to get re-elected, LOL!
Is there an election coming up? Let's not forget that elected officials often have to prostitute themselves in order to win votes and to get re-elected, LOL!Election just passed and Willy who ran the'Latins and Latinos list by 2 percent.
Is there an election coming up? Let's not forget that elected officials often have to prostitute themselves in order to win votes and to get re-elected, LOL!Hard to say which are the worst wh0 res. At least with the chicas, you get something for your money. The politicians take your money, then screw YOU.
"When they call the roll in the Senate, the Senators do not know whether to answer "Present" or "Not guilty. ".
Theodore Roosevelt, 26th US President.
Marc Anthony
06-23-16, 21:57
Went to Caribe express in Chara micos to change money as the western union in town is closed. 45.80. On the way back stopped at Playero to buy a few food items hoping to be at lunch at one of the Italian places on the main street. All closed. Walking back to hotel, passed by a young woman standing on the sidewalk, and in sweltering heat. Went to speak with her. Haven't done anything the night before and sex before lunch was an appetizing idea. She was not dressed up or anything. She tentatively suggested 1000 pesos and was plaintively wondering if I had the money.
We went in to my place and both of us needed to have a shower it being a hot and humid day. She washed me and in the end, I finished the job in the shower booth itself. As she was getting dressed up, I gave her the money and a box of cookies I had just bought. She took the money, looked up and said, "me salvaste la vida". Just another day in paradise!Meaning: "You saved my life".
Tempoecorto
06-24-16, 01:29
Meaning: "You saved my life".Thanks for that.
It was hard for me to face the naked truth being blurted out that way: that there is hunger lurking around, at least for some.
Tom died. Don't know if it was today or yesterday.
Tom died. Don't know if it was today or yesterday.That is very sad news; he was a very nice person.
Quagmire1974
06-25-16, 01:39
Tom died. Don't know if it was today or yesterday.A post on the DR1 site suggests it was today, 6/24/2016. Another post states his wife opened the bar on the beach a few days ago. I'm proud to have eaten at his place while I was in Sosua.
Life is short, guys. Work hard, play harder.
RIP Tom.
I spent 5 days in Sosua, Dominican Republic (DR) recently, it has been on my todo list for a while. So, when my wingmen mentioned going to Sosua, I jumped. They were both Sosua veterans, so I hit the ground running thanks to them.
It ended up being more of a vacation than a mongering trip for me. The vast majority of the working girls I came across were overweight, not my cup of tea. Finding a slim girl was like looking for a needle in a haystack. I managed to find 4 over the course of 5 days. Yet, when I went to Buenos Aires (BA), Argentina back in 2011, and I was quickly disillusioned with Argentinean working girls, I was more impressed with DR girls working there. This time, the few attractive girls I saw were civies at the beach. I struck up a conversation with one of them but she was with her family and nothing came out of it. Some working girls, from Haiti, were even aggressive, in asking for drinks and tips with nothing in return.
However, it was a nice relaxing vacation. DR is at the southern tip of Cuba, next door to Haiti and fairly close to Puerto Rico. Hence, this felt like a Caribbean vacation. The people were very friendly and nice, smiling the whole time. The food was excellent and they have 2 nice beaches. We spent 3 or 4 hours at the beach every day. But boy, folks are noisy there. They do everything in a loud way, talk loud, play music loud, but still friendly. I did not see beggars on the street, only kids selling fruits.
GringoItaliano
06-27-16, 16:32
Overview.
My first mongering trip to Sosua in late May and early June 2016 revealed to me why this forum bears the name "Take Me Back to Sosua. " I appreciated it more than my first Latin American mongering trip last year to San Jose, Costa Rica, both during the trip itself and in retrospect. I thus plan to return to Sosua in the future. There were, however, a few aspects of SJO that I preferred, and having the prior SJO experience under my belt definitely enabled me to get more out of my Sosua experience. The success of this mongering trip inspired me to begin planning my next one: Colombia (MDE and CTG).
New Garden.
I stayed at New Garden, believing that it would be the best place to stay on a first trip to Sosua. My research led me to believe that NG was the Sosua counterpart of the Del Rey in SJO, and in this sense NG was the only major disappointment of my trip.
I knew that it was the slow season and adjusted my expectations accordingly, but there is a difference between slow and dead. On many occasions, there was not a single chica in sight, or the only chicas in sight were guests of other mongers. It picked up a bit toward the end of my trip, but even then the selection of only a handful of chicas was too small to find what I wanted. I only pulled one chica from NG. In the hour before I checked out and left for the airport, when I needed a quick and convenient knob polishing. NG also did not impress me as a hotel in general. For my next trip, I will try the other hotels down the street.
Statistics.
In seven days, I did 11 different chicas in 12 sessions, two of which were 3-leche TLNs with the same chica, who was my favorite. All of the other sessions were one-leche STs, except for one ST that yielded two leches. I pulled two other chicas that were also keepers and with whom I wished that I could have repeated, or to whom (in retrospect) I should have proposed extending our originally planned STs into TLNs. Of the remaining eight chicas, six were good enough to tip, but not compelling enough to repeat when there were so many other fish in the sea and I only had a week to catch them. There were two other chicas that I regret choosing in retrospect, but they still got the job done. I also pulled a 12th chica who later demanded payment in advance, prompting us to abort the session.
Observations.
I found the Del Rey chicas to be more visually appealing than their Sosua counterparts when I initially spotted them, only to find that more than a few of the the Del Rey chicas did not look as good naked. In contrast, there was a lower proportion of chicas in Sosua that caught my eye, but only one of them disappointed me once she got naked. Perhaps the hotter Sosua climate encourages a style of dress that leaves less to the imagination. I also found that the Sosua chicas had better erotic skills than their SJO counterparts – particularly the former's use of the "cocomordan" pussy-clenching technique. In Sosua, I received a lot more full service and a lot less oral service than I normally would, due to the combination of the Dominican chicas' great booties and the cocomordan technique of many of them.
I did, however, find it a bit harder to converse with many of the Sosua chicas and get to know them. Some of this difficulty may have been due to the physical environment or the peculiarities of the Dominican dialect of Spanish, but I also have to wonder to what if any extent the lower level of education and development in the DR (compared to CR) may have contributed to this difficulty as well.
By the same token, Costa Rican chicas seemed more enterprising and business-like than their Dominican counterparts, which may be why I preferred the latter at the end of the day (and why all but one of my favorite chicas in Costa Rica were foreigners). The Del Rey chicas were often quite aggressive, and I had to spend a lot of time and energy fending off approaches from ones that did not interest me. The Sosua chicas struck me as much more passive, although that did come with the slight downside of having to do more work to approach and engage those that did interest me. Most of the Sosua chicas also did not negotiate as hard. Some of them did not even quote me an opening price but instead asked me to name my price, which all of those chicas accepted.
I pulled most of my chicas from Rumba and only two from Classico, mostly due to timing; by the (later) time that the action at Classico had kicked off, I was either too tired or had already found what I wanted for the night at Rumba (I like to start my mongering early in the evening). I found it easier to spot, approach, and engage chicas at Rumba than I did at Classico because Rumba had more space and less noise, although the poor lighting often made it harder to see them, and the heat and the lack of air conditioning did not help either. IMHO, the air conditioning and better lighting of Classico were its most notable advantages, although they came at the cost of a cover charge and more expensive drinks. I also noticed that chicas asked for higher prices at Classico, and I found it harder to approach and screen them there because of the noise and overcrowding. I preferred the physical environment of the Del Rey in SJO, where you could spot, approach, and engage chicas in a spacious, better-lit, and air-conditioned environment and bring them up to your room without having to leave the premises.
Another aspect of SJO that I preferred to that of Sosua was the daytime scene. SJO has some good daytime casas and a reasonable afternoon selection at the Del Rey. I had read about the Sosua "suck shacks" on this forum beforehand, but neither the business model nor the women offering massages to passers-by appealed to me. Plus, Dominican chicas have such phenomenal booties that I wanted to save my leche for banging them instead of blowjobs. It was also a bit hot to walk around on the beach or on the main Pedro Clisante strip during the day, and the smaller selection of daytime beach walkers and streetwalkers that I did see did not appeal to me as much as the wider selection of chicas available at night, so I figured that I was better off conserving my money and my leche for the nighttime.
Highlights.
My favorite chica had silky-smooth, medium-chocolate skin, abundant tits & ass, and a face slightly resembling that of Sanaa Lathan. She said that she was a student and only came from her small town to work in Sosua on weekends, although I saw her there all week. (Hmmm.) We exchanged smiles repeatedly from a few tables away on a slow Monday evening at Rumba, after which she playfully threw a napkin at me, which I playfully threw back at her. I invited her over, and before long I was walking her back to NG. We had originally agreed upon a ST, but after my second leche in less than an hour, it became clear to me that she was a keeper, and I proposed extending our session into a TLN, to which she agreed. She had the best cocomordan, the best BBBJ, and the best GFE of all the chicas that I met. The first time that she did cocomordan on me, I moaned so loudly that they must have heard me all the way over at Rumba.
In the morning, we used the jacuzzi and had breakfast before we met up again for brunch on the beach with two chica friends of hers, during which we cuddled and she spoon-fed me. One of her chica friends was a light-skinned petite blonde spinner that I had also wanted to check out, but we did not click, either because of our respective personalities or because the spinner did not want to encroach on her friend's territory.
The Sanaa Lathan lookalike sought a repeat when I ran into her at Rumba on subsequent nights, to which I responded that we should plan on another TLN on my last night in town. I don't know if she took that as a rejection or not, but I explained to her later, on the night of our subsequent TLN, that I had been saving the best for last (which was the partial truth – I also wanted to see if I could find anyone better before my last night in town, and I could not). I know that she was unhappy about seeing me pull another chica on another night between our first and second TLNs, because she mentioned it when we finally did have our second TLN on my last night. She also indicated that she did not want me to return to Sosua for my DR next trip, but instead wanted me to visit her small town, because there were so many competing chicas in Sosua. Her GFE was weak the second time around, perhaps because of her jealousy and territoriality, but she was still the best in the sack of all 11 chicas I had, and I would still repeat again for that reason and her awesome body.
The runner-up was the hottest chica (in purely physical and visual terms) that I pulled during the trip. She was also good in the sack, had one of the warmest and wettest pussies I have encountered in quite a while, and also struck me as a nice girl in general. I only found out after the session that she was 32 years old – an early-stage MILF! I had thought that she was maybe 22-25. She could easily be a model if she were taller. She said that she was a student in Santo Domingo who only came to work in Sosua on the weekends – and I believe her, since I only saw her that first Saturday night when I pulled her from Rumba, and I tried to meet up with her on another occasion, but she was unavailable. Our ST session was a notch pricier than the others but was worthwhile because she was so hot, it was peak hours on a Saturday night, and she provided above-average service. She managed to coax two leches out of me in less than an hour (my third leche within 4 hours that night) with her volcanic pussy and initiated the second round without me even having to ask. In retrospect, I should have proposed extending our ST into TLN, especially since it turned out to be slow the following day (Sunday), and I mistakenly took it for granted that I would have the chance to see her again. She still goes out of her way to keep in touch with me on WhatsApp.
The second runner-up was a tall (maybe 6' without heels), slender chica. We had initially exchanged smiles at Classico the night before our eventual session, but she later explained that she had not proceeded further at that time because another chica (the Sanaa Lathan lookalike, perhaps?) had evidently marked me as her territory. She nonetheless approached me the next evening at Rumba, telling me that I was handsome and quoting me a TLN rate that was a notch below market. In retrospect, I should have taken her up on her generous TLN offer, either at first or after our ST had initially proven successful, but I was trying to limit my TLNs and was also a bit suspicious of the combination of her forward approach, her strong preference for a TLN over a ST, and her surprisingly low TLN rate. I have been kicking myself ever since, because the chica that I chose for my second ST that night turned out to be a regrettable choice. I am still scratching my head as to why this tall chica offered a below-market TLN rate, as she was quite attractive and it was not a slow night or time, and the cynical monger in me is reluctant to take her compliments at face value and believe that she genuinely found me attractive. In any event, this chica was quite good in the sack, and she either came or did a convincing job of faking it. She also delivered a good BBBJCIM finish, which seems harder to come by in Sosua. She might not be working in Sosua for much longer, as she claimed that she was only working there short-term to raise capital with which to start her own business.
Lowlights.
The worst chica caught my eye at Rumba because she looked different. It turned out that she was Venezuelan (I saw her passport) and claimed to have arrived in Sosua that day (I did not have the opportunity to look for her entry stamp). She initially gave me the impression that she was an unusually and genuinely nice girl, perhaps a bit naive and new to the game, and that she was unfamiliar with how P4 P worked in Sosua. She asked me to name my price, which I did (a fair market rate), and she accepted it. We got back to the hotel, undressed, and just as we were about to get down to business, she said "Where's my money, baby?" in almost perfect English (our entire conversation up to this point had been in Spanish). I explained to her that it was standard in Sosua and elsewhere to pay afterward, not in advance, to which she responded that it was standard in Sosua and elsewhere to pay in advance. The contradiction between this claim and her earlier claim to be unfamiliar with P4P in Sosua evidently did not deter her from stating such a bald-faced lie. It became painfully obvious to me that she was a seasoned pro posing as a newbie, having been around the block enough to realize that many gringo mongers prefer fresh meat to seasoned pros. She must have thought that her nice girl act would be powerful enough to cloud my judgment – it was not. We aborted the session and she left empty-handed.
The worst session that actually did occur was on a slow Sunday night with a minimal selection, and this chica was the only one at Rumba that appealed to me. She quoted me an outrageously high rate for a ST session – twice the fair rate, and a notch below the fair rate for a TLN. I negotiated her down to a rate that was still a notch higher than my target rate but that I was still willing to accept, given the lack of appealing alternatives and her general hotness, which was probably why she asked for such a high rate. She probably gets by on her looks alone, as the service was poor, and she did little to conceal her evident distaste for me. She kept nagging me about how I only had 1 hour to finish, even when we were only 10-15 minutes into the session. It took a bit longer than usual for me to leche due to her weak performance and her repeated nagging. I paid her the rate that we had negotiated and did not tip her. She did not even ask for a tip, so she probably realized that her service sucked.
The second-worst session went OK until I paid her after we had finished. I paid her the rate we had negotiated beforehand, plus a tip of 500 pesos. She then asked for a tip, to which I responded that the amount that I had just given her included her 500 peso tip. She then falsely claimed that we had agreed to a rate that was 500 pesos higher than the rate upon which we had actually agreed and thus wanted another 500 pesos as a tip. I stood firm as she persisted in her false claim, and I finally got her to drop it by picking up the phone and pretending to call security, at which point she visibly realized that her lie was not going to work and immediately left without any more money than what I had already paid her. In retrospect, I realized that this chica was just trying to undo our prior negotiations and walk away with the amount that she had originally quoted in the first place, which was above the fair market rate by 1,000 pesos. I could tell that she was not happy to accept this fair market rate, and in retrospect perhaps I should have aborted when I saw her reaction.
The lesson that I learned from the two sessions above is that it may not be a good idea to negotiate a chica's rates too far below the rate that she originally quotes. If she quotes too high of rate at the beginning (1,000 pesos or more above fair market rates), then it might be better to move on to the next chica, rather than trying to negotiate her so far down from what she really wants. Either she won't accept a fair market rate, or she will accept it and either give you bad service or try to milk you for more money to get what she originally wanted.
Other Chicas.
- My first pull was a cute, baby-faced, light-skinned blonde who was just slightly gordita enough to have serious tits & ass, but not so much that it made her unattractive or harder to bang. She demonstrated some solid cocomordan skills and kept going at it even well after I had come.
-I pulled a beach walker / streetwalker with a nice tight little body one slow afternoon. She had an appealing booty and good BBBJ. She walks the streets and the beach with a chocolate friend of hers who was also cute but I did not have time to pull. They might be good for a happy hour.
- I pulled a tiny girl (she cannot be more than 5' tall or weigh more than 90 pounds) because I wanted to bang such a small chica, but her best quality was her awesome BBBJ. No CIM, though; she's firm on that. She lives in Puerto Plata and is thus probably in Sosua a lot.
- I pulled a girl next door type who seemed shy and nervous, perhaps because she was new to the game; it made her even cuter, and her shyness and nervousness did not prevent her from being good in the sack either. She had some nice tits & ass and a cute baby face.
- I pulled a voluptuous early-stage MILF at Classico one night. She was good enough in the sack but had the most interesting personality of all the chicas that I pulled, including a sense of humor. It would have been good to spend some more time with her beyond just banging her.
- I pulled a random chica from the breakfast area of NG at the last minute before checking out and heading to the airport. It was in the morning and her quality BBBJ took care of the second round of morning wood that I had somehow developed, even after a previous BBBJ from the Sanaa Lathan lookalike earlier that morning, before she left from our previous night's TLN.
Non-mongering activities.
I had planned this trip expecting that there would not be many non-mongering things to do during the day, but the non-mongering side activities that I found pleasantly surprised me. The best was scuba diving; I took my first introductory scuba dive off the shore of Sosua with the Merlin Dive Center, which is near the entrance to the beach. I had originally planned to do this just to remove an item from my bucket list, but the experience made me want to do more of it on future trips to Sosua or other destinations.
I also knocked two other items off my bucket list: saltwater fishing and zip-lining. I got a solo spot on a saltwater fishing trip off the shore of Sosua through Mel's Tours, which was a good find because most companies that offer such trips want you to pay $500-600 to charter a boat for 4-6 people and do not let you book individually (I shared the boat with two other guys who had booked separately). I also did zip-lining at Monkey Jungle; I had thought about doing that in the jungle in Costa Rica but felt more comfortable trying it for the first time in a more controlled environment here (it is more of a park, despite its name). It was also fun to feed the monkeys that they have there and have them climb all over you. I also went to Ocean World, which was OK but might have been better if I had opted for swimming with the dolphins or sharks that they have there.
SavePros321
06-28-16, 02:29
In retrospect, I realized that this chica was just trying to undo our prior negotiations and walk away with the amount that she had originally quoted in the first place, which was above the fair market rate by 1,000 pesos. I could tell that she was not happy to accept this fair market rate, and in retrospect perhaps I should have aborted when I saw her reaction.
The lesson that I learned from the two sessions above is that it may not be a good idea to negotiate a chica's rates too far below the rate that she originally quotes. If she quotes too high of rate at the beginning (1,000 pesos or more above fair market rates), then it might be better to move on to the next chica, rather than trying to negotiate her so far down from what she really wants. Either she won't accept a fair market rate, or she will accept it and either give you bad service or try to milk you for more money to get what she originally wanted.
Glad you held your ground bro. There are a lot of stories here about chicas playing the "rope-a dope" game on gringos (agreeing to one price and then trying to switch up the price afterwards). One trick I fell for as a Sosua newbie way-back-when was going with a chica that told me I could pay her whatever I wanted. Of course when we were done the byaitch wanted 2000 pesos vs the 1500 pesos I was trying to give her.
In retrospect, I realized that this chica was just trying to undo our prior negotiations and walk away with the amount that she had originally quoted in the first place, which was above the fair market rate by 1,000 pesos. I could tell that she was not happy to accept this fair market rate, and in retrospect perhaps I should have aborted when I saw her reaction.
The lesson that I learned from the two sessions above is that it may not be a good idea to negotiate a chica's rates too far below the rate that she originally quotes. If she quotes too high of rate at the beginning (1,000 pesos or more above fair market rates), then it might be better to move on to the next chica, rather than trying to negotiate her so far down from what she really wants. Either she won't accept a fair market rate, or she will accept it and either give you bad service or try to milk you for more money to get what she originally wanted.I have been saying more or less the same thing for years, but few people seem to agree. Incidentally, in your excellent report you use the phrase "fair market rate" several times without defining how you have determined fair market rate. Do you have some kind of calculator or cell phone app that you can input all the variables into an algorithm that determines the fair market rate, kind of like Uber for pros?
GringoItaliano
06-28-16, 06:50
I have been saying more or less the same thing for years, but few people seem to agree. Incidentally, in your excellent report you use the phrase "fair market rate" several times without defining how you have determined fair market rate. Do you have some kind of calculator or cell phone app that you can input all the variables into an algorithm that determines the fair market rate, kind of like Uber for pros?LOL, by "fair market rate", I meant the usual or prevailing rates that I came to expect, based on my prior research on another forum and the rates that other chicas quoted me once I actually got there. What I found was that if a chica initially asked for 500 pesos more than what I believed to be the fair market rate, there was still room for negotiation, and if she did a good job I would often give her what she originally asked for, with that last 500 pesos as a tip. In contrast, I realized in retrospect that a chica who asks for 1,000 pesos or more than the usual rate either has an inflated opinion of herself, a low opinion of her prospective client, or both. None of which are a good sign. I think that the best thing to do in that situation is to move on to the next prospective chica.
Thank you for your appreciation of my report.
Overview.
My first mongering trip to Sosua in late May and early June 2016 revealed to me why this forum bears the name "Take Me Back to Sosua. " I appreciated it more than my first Latin American mongering trip last year to San Jose, Costa Rica, both during the trip itself and in retrospect. I thus plan to return to Sosua in the future. There were, however, a few aspects of SJO that I preferred, and having the prior SJO experience under my belt definitely enabled me to get more out of my Sosua experience..An ecxellent take on a mongers first time visit to Sosua. A lot of newbies can relate to your experiences.
A couple of comments.
First, The New Garden is a generally a hotel you take your "finds" back to. The ones that hang around there are generally of lower quality than the ones just down the street.
The other thing (which always gets mixed reviews here) is that, a lot of mongers seem to put a lot of effort into negotiating the price of a session. It's my opinion that if you are dealing with a stranger, and she quotes an excessive price, better to move on. Obviously with such a diverse view of the value of the chica, it's a sure sign somebody is being unrealistic.
She may eventually agree to your lower price, but the potential for poor service / flip service / argument after the session, rises proportionately.
You can easily find generally accepted P4P rates for most monger destinations, MP, ST, TLN, they are posted here from time to time. They vary a little with quality of chica, time of day, day of week, even time of year, but the local market (supply and demand) keeps them within reasonable limits.
Charles Pooter
06-28-16, 15:53
Thank you for taking the trouble to post such a long and detailed report, GringoItaliano. Newbie's take on things are usually more interesting.
I endorse Oakie's comments. Stay at the New Garden if you wish, but not for the on-site women, who are usually from the bottom of the barrel.
I always agree a lowish price in advance with chicas new to me. If they give very good service, I can always give more. After my first two or three "learning" trips, I never tried to haggle. If they did not immediately, or almost immediately, agree what I consider a fair price, I moved on to the next. There are ALWAYS other options.
If you become a regular visitor, you will find that the best chicas at the best prices are not found in bars and clubs on the main strip in Sosua. You will learn to find them on the side streets, often doing regular non-tourist-related jobs. And then in the surrounding villages and bateyes or the barrios of Puerto Plata. Places where money is scarce and your dollars are a godsend. Tattoos, piercings, dyed hair, colored contacts, good jewellery, watches, and phones repel me. Chicas who really need your money for their children and not to buy ghetto trash usually make the most appreciative, honest and giving companions.
Tempoecorto
06-28-16, 16:30
Chicas who really need your money for their children and not to buy ghetto trash usually make the most appreciative, honest and giving companions.Truer words have not been spoken!
...she quotes an excessive price, better to move on. Obviously with such a diverse view of the value of the chica, it's a sure sign somebody is being unrealistic.
She may eventually agree to your lower price, but the potential for poor service / flip service / argument after the session, rises proportionately.It has been my experience almost everywhere and all the time. I always end up regretting haggling with a chick over price, invariably resulting in poor service. I have learned since to just move on to the next chick.
...in your excellent report you use the phrase "fair market rate" several times without defining how you have determined fair market rate. Do you have some kind of calculator or cell phone app that you can input all the variables into an algorithm that determines the fair market rate, kind of like Uber for pros?Whenever I go to a new destination, or return after a long absence, I always read the appropriate forum and voila, easy to determine fair market rates. On this trip to Sosua, I did the usual RTFF and determined that ST rates were between 1,500 and 2,500 pesos for working girls. Then, I used my judgement to determine whether a particular chica should be offered a price at the low end or at the higher end of the scale. I also use tips to reward excellent service, beyond my expectation.
BTW, I have not seen too many posts on the problem of change. My small notes tended to disappear rather quickly, and found myself resorting to Houdini tricks to make sure I always have small change. I would appreciate any advice from fellow mongers on this. I tried to go inside a bank one morning to ask for change, and I ran out quickly. The line was way too long. From a recent post, I also started requesting unusual amounts from the ATM, such as 9,900 instead of 10,000 pesos, for example.
Mr Enternational
06-28-16, 18:38
I have not seen too many posts on the problem of change. My small notes tended to disappear rather quickly, and found myself resorting to Houdini tricks to make sure I always have small change. I would appreciate any advice from fellow mongers on this.You pay with a big bill without letting them see the rest of your money. If they do not have change then they will go find it.
It is important to vet the girls before you pull the trigger. If there is no vibe no matter what you pay the service will be lack lustered. On occasion when I have rushed and not taken my time I realized when in the room I did not want the girl and I think it was mutual. I just sent the girl home with 500 pesos.
It has been my experience almost everywhere and all the time. I always end up regretting haggling with a chick over price, invariably resulting in poor service. I have learned since to just move on to the next chick.
LOL, by "fair market rate", I meant the usual or prevailing rates that I came to expect, based on my prior research on another forum and the rates that other chicas quoted me once I actually got there. What I found was that if a chica initially asked for 500 pesos more than what I believed to be the fair market rate, there was still room for negotiation, and if she did a good job I would often give her what she originally asked for, with that last 500 pesos as a tip. In contrast, I realized in retrospect that a chica who asks for 1,000 pesos or more than the usual rate either has an inflated opinion of herself, a low opinion of her prospective client, or both. None of which are a good sign. I think that the best thing to do in that situation is to move on to the next prospective chica.
Thank you for your appreciation of my report.Oh, OK. What I will do is usually open with an offer of what I want to pay, then if she wants to counter offer then we can usually find some middle ground. It is often useful to have a certain amount escrowed as a bonus for good performance. Or if the initial bid is nowhere near what she is asking, then that is probably a bust, and time to move on. Negotiating can be done in a humorous manner to get her laughing. "Yes, but I have a tiny penis and only last about one minute. You will probably not even notice I am there, so I usually get a discount from chicas. " If questioned later, you can add "Well, you are the only chica who can make me this big, so you deserve a bonus!
You pay with a big bill without letting them see the rest of your money. If they do not have change then they will go find it.But first you prominently display the big bill, so there's no confusion. Twice I had people try to give me change for 500 p, when I had given them 1000 p. Once, at the Metro station in SD, it required her counting the drawer in front of the manager and comparing it to the computer before I got my 500 p back. She did not look happy.
Quagmire1974
06-28-16, 19:38
BTW, I have not seen too many posts on the problem of change. My small notes tended to disappear rather quickly, and found myself resorting to Houdini tricks to make sure I always have small change. I would appreciate any advice from fellow mongers on this. I tried to go inside a bank one morning to ask for change, and I ran out quickly. The line was way too long. From a recent post, I also started requesting unusual amounts from the ATM, such as 9,900 instead of 10,000 pesos, for example.Go to a local Colmado (convenience store) and buy a bottle of beer or water and pay with a large bill. Problem solved.
Mr Enternational
06-28-16, 20:21
On occasion when I have rushed and not taken my time I realized when in the room I did not want the girl and I think it was mutual. I just sent the girl home with 500 pesos.You might as well had gone ahead and fucked her for 500 pesos, or at least got your dick sucked.
Mr Enternational
06-28-16, 22:25
I just had some Puerto Plata shit fall apart so I am sitting at Field of Dreams now talking to one guy from New Jersey and another from New York. There are 10 girls here. There was a White lady from England behind the bar earlier. Don't know the deal with that. But another bartender told me they have a bikini contest tomorrow at 4. I asked was she going to be in it. She said no. I said well why are you telling me. She said well don't bring your ass here then if you don't want. I think she has it going on with a boyfriend or husband or whatever. A big rock on her hand and she drove in in front of me in a fly Nissan Maxima.
I am leaving now to go look for a room in Sosua. I just hit my regular chick in Puerto Plata and she said she would meet me in Sosua but she can not stay all night. So if anyone else is around and want to meet up then let me know.
Husker Dude
06-28-16, 23:52
I just had some Puerto Plata shit fall apart so I am sitting at Field of Dreams now talking to one guy from New Jersey and another from New York. There are 10 girls here. There was a White lady from England behind the bar earlier. Don't know the deal with that. But another bartender told me they have a bikini contest tomorrow at 4. I asked was she going to be in it. She said no. I said well why are you telling me. She said well don't bring your ass here then if you don't want. I think she has it going on with a boyfriend or husband or whatever. A big rock on her hand and she drove in in front of me in a fly Nissan Maxima.
I am leaving now to go look for a room in Sosua. I just hit my regular chick in Puerto Plata and she said she would meet me in Sosua but she can not stay all night. So if anyone else is around and want to meet up then let me know.How did the girls look at FOD? The English lady sometimes tends bar and she is usually in the front office working. She does reservations and stuff, name is Anita. The other bartender usually at night is Jenny. She dates on and off Pedro, the guy that runs FOD, hence the car. LOL.
It has been my experience almost everywhere and all the time. I always end up regretting haggling with a chick over price, invariably resulting in poor service. I have learned since to just move on to the next chick.If a chica quotes me a ridiculous price, I take it as an insult and move on. It suggests to me she think's I'm a fool or a pushover. And you don't want girls in Latin America to think you're a fool / pushover.
Bargaining has to be light-hearted as Frannie suggests. Most experienced mongers have this process down pretty well.
Mr Enternational
06-29-16, 00:40
I'm a hard bargainer. Sitting in Cucu bar drinking with my boy. A dude just came up selling a Swatch and 2 pair of sunglasses. They appeared of good quality. I especially liked the round Dior sunglasses because they remind me of the belated Prince. He was the reason that I started playing guitar. So I asked how much. He said how much for what. I said for all that shit. Then I said fuck it. I will give you $23 because I like you. He went to hemmin and hawin (as Pipelayer99 would say). Then I took the money out of my wallet (don't know why this wallet is in my pocket; guess I am getting comfortable being a vet) and put it on the bar. He was like give me $30 and buy me a drink. I said man it smells like you have already had enough to drink. I put the money back up and said fuck it then. I was just buying it because of the glasses. That joker left and came back 30 seconds later. Okay man give me the $23.
Mr Enternational
06-29-16, 07:12
I left Bonao this morning and headed to La Vega to see a chick. She was supposed to go to my friend's wedding with me in Bayahibe at the end of April. She didn't end up going because she wanted me to buy new clothes for her to wear there. I said B you ain't the one getting married. You better wear something that you already have.
Funny thing I told my boy to put me down with a plus one because there was no telling who I would show up with. But that was after I had already given him her name. His wife never changed it. At the wedding they had fancy name tags inside of frames at everyone's place at the dinner table. And to top that off when me and my date went to speak to his wife after the ceremony she said oh is this and was saying the other chick's name but I cut her off.
Three weeks ago I shot the chick I was supposed to go with a Hello, because I had not heard from her in a while. I asked if everything was okay and she said no because her house burned down and sent me a picture of the damage. I said oh that is not good.
Today was her daughter's birthday and they were headed to this place called Rancho Avestruz to celebrate. They have a couple of swimming pools and stuff there. She said they would be there from 10 am to 6 pm. I pulled up at 11 and she was not there so I called to see where she was. She was at home. I told her that I would be over there in 10 minutes. Evidently she must have forgotten that she told me the place burned down, because when I pulled up I thought, I guess miracles do happen!
Mr Enternational
06-29-16, 16:17
Disclaimer: Last night was Tuesday. If anyone who has been to Sosua in the last month would care to rebuff my report then please step in to do so.
Gogo posted something last week about the politicians saying they will stamp out prostitution in Sosua. Well at this rate they won't have to lift a finger; prostitution in Sosua is going to stamp itself out. I went out to the strip last night at 1am when my Puerto Plata girl left. (And thank god she came, because if it wasn't for her then I would have had a dry dick last night.) It was an about face from when I was last here Superbowl weekend. The place was on life support last night. But what was left there to keep it alive was killing it faster than anything. There were so many hair hat creatures (and they were trying to touch me, ewww) that I thought I was in Dana Dane's Nightmares video.
Usually when someone comes on ISG and says they couldn't find anyone to fuck in a particular location I think they must have been either high or drunk. But this time I am a total believer. I wouldn't fuck 98% of the chicks who were out last night with Old Kool's dick; and I am probably the least picky monger that I know. The sexiest chick that I saw was a Haitian honey with a fade. Besides her there were 2 chicks sitting inside of Merengue that I would have run through. But every last am one of those other chicks had no business even showing up last night.
There were not many people out at all to begin with. I could have literally parked the car in front of either Clasico or Rumba, but instead I parked at the corner of El Flow. I feel sorry for the guys who already have a trip booked. Good luck brothers. I would say there are more tourists out right now in the daytime than there were monger and hookers out. There are plenty of cars parked on the streets now at 11am, whereas last night there were hardly any. I'm about to drive my ass back to the milk and honey land of Santo Domingo. Glad I have a car. I won't even look back at this place in the rearview mirror.
SavePros321
06-29-16, 17:29
There were not many people out at all to begin with. I could have literally parked the car in front of either Clasico or Rumba, but instead I parked at the corner of El Flow. I feel sorry for the guys who already have a trip booked. Good luck brothers. I would say there are more tourists out right now in the daytime than there were monger and hookers out. There are plenty of cars parked on the streets now at 11am, whereas last night there were hardly any. I'm about to drive my ass back to the milk and honey land of Santo Domingo. Glad I have a car. I won't even look back at this place in the rearview mirror.But isn't May-October considered to be "Low Season"? At least that's what most of the hotels / apartments in Sosua call it and base their rates around on their websites.
But isn't May-October considered to be "Low Season"? At least that's what most of the hotels / apartments in Sosua call it and base their rates around on their websites.Tuesday at 1 am is probably the slowest of the week. It picks up Thursday for the weekend crowd. Not surprised the families are out earlier in the week to avoid the big city boys and girls that come for their vices later. American Airlines is now booking Cuba on their website for 299 rt, let's see if this will make the DR adjust the prices in the future to compete.
Thanks for the info guys.
Sosua Sunrise news letter indicated that other hotels were lowering there rates due to low season. Mr E my dick will be very busy soon. On the ground in 2 weeks.
But isn't May-October considered to be "Low Season"? At least that's what most of the hotels / apartments in Sosua call it and base their rates around on their websites.
GringoItaliano
06-29-16, 20:01
Disclaimer: Last night was Tuesday. If anyone who has been to Sosua in the last month would care to rebuff my report then please step in to do so.
Gogo posted something last week about the politicians saying they will stamp out prostitution in Sosua. Well at this rate they won't have to lift a finger; prostitution in Sosua is going to stamp itself out. I went out to the strip last night at 1am when my Puerto Plata girl left. (And thank god she came, because if it wasn't for her then I would have had a dry dick last night.) It was an about face from when I was last here Superbowl weekend. The place was on life support last night. But what was left there to keep it alive was killing it faster than anything. There were so many hair hat creatures (and they were trying to touch me, ewww) that I thought I was in Dana Dane's Nightmares video..I was in Sosua in late May and early June (please see my recent trip report). It did seem slower than I had expected, based on my prior research, although I did not have any previous experience in Sosua to which to compare the level of activity. The selection in Sosua was less extensive than I would have hoped (based on my only other Latin American mongering experience in SJO, when I stayed at the Del Rey). The less extensive selection made it harder to find chicas that appealed to me on slower nights (Sunday-Tuesday), but it was sufficient for me on my first Saturday and on the following Wednesday-Friday.
I would add that, aside from the more limited selection, I did find it harder than I had expected to get the attention of the chicas that I liked there, and it was certainly harder than it was at the Del Rey. They often seemed disengaged or more interested in playing with their phones or talking to their wing-women. Perhaps it was so slow that they had just checked out psychologically and lacked the motivation to be more engaged.
Manizales911
06-29-16, 21:05
But isn't May-October considered to be "Low Season"? At least that's what most of the hotels / apartments in Sosua call it and base their rates around on their websites.June, July, August and September are the slowest (and hottest) months of the year. Comparing this past week to Superbowl week is like comparing apples and dog shit.
Is it really such a big change over from July 2015, or those DDC videos on youtube from July / August 2013? The women there looked hot. Thinking of booking a trip but the Mr E post made me hesitate.
Mr Enternational
06-29-16, 23:15
June, July, August and September are the slowest (and hottest) months of the year. Comparing this past week to Superbowl week is like comparing apples and dog shit.I have been to Sosua about 30 times in the past 10 years and definitely during each of the months that you have listed, but I have never seen it like it was last night.
And I could care less whether you hard legs show up, but where are the bittches at? Surely they have not left the island as well.
...BTW, I have not seen too many posts on the problem of change. My small notes tended to disappear rather quickly, and found myself resorting to Houdini tricks to make sure I always have small change. I would appreciate any advice from fellow mongers on this. I tried to go inside a bank one morning to ask for change, and I ran out quickly. The line was way too long. From a recent post, I also started requesting unusual amounts from the ATM, such as 9,900 instead of 10,000 pesos, for example.When it comes to change my pattern is to always exchange dollars for pesos during the daytime so as not to run out of pesos as the night goes on. Also, from my experience, the exchange rate is not as good during the night as in the daytime (since there are fewer places to exchange money as it gets dark. This I found to be true in Sosua and Boca Chica.).
Second, when paying for food in the restaurants I use large bills. As the evening wears on, talking with chicas and drinking a couple of beers in the dark, it is easy to make a mistake with one's money. Since I only deal with small bills in the nighttime if I make an error I will not be cheated out of much money.
I need some water so I jump into a colmado, give them DOP 500 pesos and walk away with the proper, smaller, change. Then there are the hotels you are staying at. You can ask them to break a bill for you.
I hope this helps, Lefeu.
Disclaimer: Last night was Tuesday. If anyone who has been to Sosua in the last month would care to rebuff my report then please step in to do so.
Usually when someone comes on ISG and says they couldn't find anyone to fuck in a particular location I think they must have been either high or drunk. But this time I am a total believer. I wouldn't fuck 98% of the chicks who were out last night with Old Kool's dick; and I am probably the least picky monger that I know. The sexiest chick that I saw was a Haitian honey with a fade. Besides her there were 2 chicks sitting inside of Merengue that I would have run through. But every last am one of those other chicks had no business even showing up last night.
There were not many people out at all to begin with. I could have literally parked the car in front of either Clasico or Rumba, but instead I parked at the corner of El Flow. I feel sorry for the guys who already have a trip booked. Good luck brothers. I would say there are more tourists out right now in the daytime than there were monger and hookers out. There are plenty of cars parked on the streets now at 11am, whereas last night there were hardly any. I'm about to drive my ass back to the milk and honey land of Santo Domingo. Glad I have a car. I won't even look back at this place in the rearview mirror.Tuesday is a bad day. Generally Thursday to Sunday is the busiest. Monday is not bad either. Chicas know mongers come between Thursday and Monday. Unlike other destinations in the world Sosua is a weekend destination for many from east coast of USA.
Unless you have a regular novio or enjoying all inclusive resort nobody stay whole week.
All the pretty girls come only on weekends. They will not make good money other times. Slow season or not weekends are busy all year around in my experience. Only problem is summertime is too hot. Air conditioning in Sosua hotels as well as clubs are not very efficient.
Thanks for the information Sammon.
I went ahead and booked tickets from July 28th to August 2nd. I'm excited as hell -- this is my first real mongering trip, aside from a couple of improvised nights out in Colombia. I'm a dorky white guy in my late 20's, but if anyone wants to party with me then, let me know!
I'll probably be doing Tinder or Tagged to get girls during the day and the clubs / bars at night.
If you are invited to some of these homes to eat don't be surprised if they only give you a spoon to eat with and learn to like what they like because 9 out of 10 the girl you pick will be use to cheaper food.
Charles Pooter
06-30-16, 19:15
... they only give you a spoon to eat with.The most convenient implement for eating rice and beans, which is what poor locals eat 90% of the time.
Mr. Lefeu,
If you are looking for change. And you entered a bank but left before receiving any then it's a good thing you are a monger because you wouldn't be a very good bank robber. Willy Sutton knew "that's where the money is".
When I was in Sosua I took money out of the Caja Automatico (ATM) and went into the bank, waited in line (it wasn't long but then again I'm not on the Sexual Tourist timeline, I'm a Sexpat). Handed the teller my large peso notes and asked her to: "Cambia a menudo por favor" (Change to small please). It works, regardless of all the corrections the Spanish professors on this forum are going to make. And that's how a teller in Santo Domingo had previously told me to say it. LOL!
BTW, I have not seen too many posts on the problem of change. My small notes tended to disappear rather quickly, and found myself resorting to Houdini tricks to make sure I always have small change. I would appreciate any advice from fellow mongers on this. I tried to go inside a bank one morning to ask for change, and I ran out quickly. The line was way too long. From a recent post, I also started requesting unusual amounts from the ATM, such as 9,900 instead of 10,000 pesos, for example.
Tempoecorto
07-01-16, 02:34
The most convenient implement for eating rice and beans, which is what poor locals eat 90% of the time.Just for the fun of contradicting (and the locals are not going to agree with me), there is nothing like eating with your fingers, the cleanest and the most efficient tool ever. Just like the ancient Greeks and Romans did; Definitely klutzy and certainly not chic, but finger licking good nonetheless!
Thanks for the information Sammon.
I went ahead and booked tickets from July 28th to August 2nd. I'm excited as hell -- this is my first real mongering trip, aside from a couple of improvised nights out in Colombia. I'm a dorky white guy in my late 20's, but if anyone wants to party with me then, let me know!
I'll probably be doing Tinder or Tagged to get girls during the day and the clubs / bars at night.First real mongering trip?
White guys in their twentys can get lots of girls right here in USA dorky or not. Go slow in Sosua. Some of the girls there will eat you alive and not in a sexual way. They can sense a newbie right away. Act, talk like you are experienced monger. Negotiation is the name of the game. If you are looking for top notch girls sosua is not the place.
I have met and enjoyed some normal girls I met not in Sosua. Never went online. I believe there are not many online girls willing to meet for sex only unlike other countries. But maybe other mongers can advice you who have done this. Other clubs are for locals only and most of the time girls are with their family or boyfriend. Sousa clubs are ok. All the single girls there can be approached and negotiated for sex.
Have fun!
Marc Anthony
07-02-16, 04:22
If a chica quotes me a ridiculous price, I take it as an insult and move on. It suggests to me she think's I'm a fool or a pushover. And you don't want girls in Latin America to think you're a fool / pushover.
Bargaining has to be light-hearted as Frannie suggests. Most experienced mongers have this process down pretty well.Yep. Do it with a little amusement. I say you are so beautiful you clearly are worth even more than that but unfortunately all I can afford is 1500. Maybe I can save my money and eventually have enough for you. If they say ok anyway I tend to take them out and court them and talk. If we don't have good chemistry I don't bother. If things go well I tend to give them extra regalos and tips. I agree about the "fool pushover" thing. Chicas don't respect you for being easy to push around but when you first meet her giving a high price may be testing you but since she doesn't know you it doesn't make sense to treat it as disrespecting you. Even if you know her pretty well chicas will still test you. By then all it should take is a look to get her to smile and quit it.
Mr Enternational
07-02-16, 04:54
Like I say, you ain't the only one that you know mongering. My cousin just put on his facebook that he was having fun in Sosua. Not knowing he knew anything about Sosua, I told him that I just missed him by 2 days. Then I called my dad and told him that he was down there and that I thought he was married. My dad said he believes he got divorced. Looks like I may have a new wingman.
No need to fret when a chica does not want work with you. Sosua has so many willing women you should never miss a beat. Now is slow season so the girls should be lista.
Yep. Do it with a little amusement. I say you are so beautiful you clearly are worth even more than that but unfortunately all I can afford is 1500. Maybe I can save my money and eventually have enough for you. If they say ok anyway I tend to take them out and court them and talk. If we don't have good chemistry I don't bother. If things go well I tend to give them extra regalos and tips. I agree about the "fool pushover" thing. Chicas don't respect you for being easy to push around but when you first meet her giving a high price may be testing you but since she doesn't know you it doesn't make sense to treat it as disrespecting you. Even if you know her pretty well chicas will still test you. By then all it should take is a look to get her to smile and quit it.
Like I say, you ain't the only one that you know mongering. My cousin just put on his facebook that he was having fun in Sosua. Not knowing he knew anything about Sosua, I told him that I just missed him by 2 days. Then I called my dad and told him that he was down there and that I thought he was married. My dad said he believes he got divorced. Looks like I may have a new wingman.Well at least he's having a good time their, unlike you did? What's the verdict Sosua still good or no? My feet will be planted today, I'm hoping it's all good!
Mr Enternational
07-02-16, 20:55
We know it is not one of Frannie's. His are well-trained.
http://worldstaruncut.com/uncut/27364
Mr Enternational
07-02-16, 20:58
Well at least he's having a good time their, unlike you did? What's the verdict Sosua still good or no? My feet will be planted today, I'm hoping it's all good!One good friend said the weekend is the only time to do Sosua. That is why I stated the day of the week that I was there; in case someone could put their finger on that being the x factor.
SavePros321
07-02-16, 23:24
We know it is not one of Frannie's. His are well-trained.
http://worldstaruncut.com/uncut/27364Kind of interesting that every single person in that room had titties, lmao! :-O
ProfessorOak
07-03-16, 21:20
To add on to what NZSMith said it will also be my first time in Sousa, or even DR for that fact. Aside from a few trips to Tijuana I am completely lost on protocol in Sousa. If any one could guide me that would be beneficial and appreciated. Only have a few questions.
I'll be sexcationing from the 7th to the 13th and I'm pretty set on the Victorian house for the fact of location and pricing. Mostly location. Smart move?
I know in Tijuana you don't have to exchange currency but it does help a little with that said do I need to exchange? Or will Jackson and Grant be welcomed?
Was reading some previous posts showing a convo with a girl for 1500 pesos. A quick Google search shows that's about 32-35 US dollars? Is this correct? What does that include & for how long. I would probably want a girl in the afternoon and one for the remainder of the night. Any advice on how much I should bring?
Last one! I was reading at Cristal's stripclub? Any thoughts and experiences would be great.
Sorry if these questions are novice I really tried looking before posting and became impatient.
Thanks a lot!
night. Any advice on how much I should bring?
Last one! I was reading at Cristal's stripclub? Any thoughts and experiences would be great.
Thanks a lot!If money is a concern don't worry about even going here and to boot you can find more beautiful elsewhere.
To add on to what NZSMith said it will also be my first time in Sousa, or even DR for that fact. Aside from a few trips to Tijuana I am completely lost on protocol in Sousa. If any one could guide me that would be beneficial and appreciated. Only have a few questions.
I'll be sexcationing from the 7th to the 13th and I'm pretty set on the Victorian house for the fact of location and pricing. Mostly location. Smart move?
I know in Tijuana you don't have to exchange currency but it does help a little with that said do I need to exchange? Or will Jackson and Grant be welcomed?
Was reading some previous posts showing a convo with a girl for 1500 pesos. A quick Google search shows that's about 32-35 US dollars? Is this correct? What does that include & for how long. I would probably want a girl in the afternoon and one for the remainder of the night. Any advice on how much I should bring?
Last one! I was reading at Cristal's stripclub? Any thoughts and experiences would be great.
Sorry if these questions are novice I really tried looking before posting and became impatient.
Thanks a lot!Good questions. The first thing you need to know is that the place you are going to is called Sosua, not Sousa. I am surprised that you were unable to find this in your prior researches. But whatever.
Your choice of hotel is OK. You need to change money into pesos, but you may be able to pay for the hotel with US $. Bring a few hundred dollars in $100 bills, but keep the rest of your money in the bank at home and use a debit card at a bank ATM in Sosua to get more. Budget to spend about two times what you planned. 1500 pesos will get you a quickie with a girl who is not too attractive, so don't be surprised if you have to pay more. I assume you don't speak Spanish to any meaningful extent. Give Cristal a miss. I would not get girls for overnight unless you have already spent time with them and discovered that you want to spend more time with them. Too much can go wrong if you are new at this game. Condom use is recommended unless you have advanced skills.
I think you are overplanning a bit. Just go with the swing of things and see where it takes you. Try not to fall in love or get married. It will most likely be a mistake if not for you, then for the girl, due to your premature memory loss in already forgetting your unmemorable prior trips to the DR.
Charles Pooter
07-04-16, 01:30
Do not waste your time replying to this poster. Just another bullshitting fantasist.
Today:
... it will also be my first time in Sousa, or even DR for that fact. 9 January 2016:
I've been venturing to Tijuana and DR for the past 3 years.
Do not waste your time replying to this poster. Just another bullshitting fantasist.
Today:
9 January 2016:Nice catch, bro!
One good friend said the weekend is the only time to do Sosua. That is why I stated the day of the week that I was there; in case someone could put their finger on that being the x factor.OK Mr e it's confirmed this place sucks no talent what so ever, I'm looking for next flight out, I've been around the world and never in my life wanted to get out of somewhere as I do here, the not looking back in rear view mirror is making sense now, WTF I'm stuck here? Thinking about heading to the city or another country all together, will explain more when I find my way out of here, you guys don't even want to know what I paid from Mia to pop for this fucking shithole! Now I'm up in air where to go quick! Looking like no matter what day of week Sosua is a past tense thing! Gross fat chicks everywhere.
ProfessorOak
07-04-16, 08:29
Nice catch, bro!Not sure what a fantasist is but I can assume based off context clues.
LOL I get you're trying to embarrass me or something? But when I posted that a while ago I genuinely meant PR as in Puerto Rico. As I am Puerto Rican but thanks. Doesn't change the fact I simply asked some questions so I don't end up missing or in prison.
I've included a pic of my flight details, some fantasy.
Do not waste your time replying to this poster. Just another bullshitting fantasist.
Today:
9 January 2016:Maybe he meant he has been venturing to the doctor for 3 years. Maybe it has something to do with all those trips to Tijuana. Shouldn't have drank the water.
Charles Pooter
07-04-16, 21:57
Gross fat chicks everywhere.I read this post at breakfast today. Half hour later I was on my way to Sosua to meet a monger friend at midday.
As soon as I stepped out of the publico in Sosua a very attractive, young and slim chica pounced, saying "Remember me?" This is a standard approach but as I have fucked close on a thousand chicas here and my memory is shit, I do sometimes have to think a bit. No, I did not remember her. By the time we had crossed the road her price had dropped to 500 pesos for a blow-job. I had an appointment and was already late so was not interested, although she looked way above the usual skanks who approach you in this way.
During my two hours seated in cafes on the main strip I must have seen at least a dozen slim, attractive young chicas. Granted not all would have been immediately available at a reasonable price (or at any price) but I guess at least half would have been (as some made very clear). I would recommend RacShack to buy new spectacles or lay off the booze or chemicals.
OK Mr e it's confirmed this place sucks no talent what so ever, I'm looking for next flight out, I've been around the world and never in my life wanted to get out of somewhere as I do here, the not looking back in rear view mirror is making sense now, WTF I'm stuck here? Thinking about heading to the city or another country all together, will explain more when I find my way out of here, you guys don't even want to know what I paid from Mia to pop for this fucking shithole! Now I'm up in air where to go quick! Looking like no matter what day of week Sosua is a past tense thing! Gross fat chicks everywhere.Absurd post. Even if you can't find any attractive women, Sosua is a pretty good place to just hang out in, eat and drink, and relax, although admittedly the weather can get pretty hot around this time of year if you don't know how to stay cool. You could go over to Cabarete for a change of scenery and a bit more breeze. However, there are always some attractive chicas around in Sosua. Personally I do find that the vast majority of chicas there don't appeal to me sexually, so you may have something of a point, but it only takes one good one to make your day, or even make your weekend. If you want to get onto the next flight out from POP to MIA, you will definitely have to pay through the nose.
I am Puerto Rican...Say no more!
...During my two hours seated in cafes on the main strip I must have seen at least a dozen slim, attractive young chicas. Granted not all would have been immediately available at a reasonable price (or at any price) but I guess at least half would have been (as some made very clear). I would recommend RacShack to buy new spectacles or lay off the booze or chemicals.Lucky you, I was there mid June for 5 days and I met a grand total of 4 chicks of the type that can be considered slim, attractive, young chicas. The rest were all big mamas, just not my cup of tea.
This was my first trip to Sosua. Luckily, I enjoyed the beach, the people, and the food. Hence, I had a great time. However, I am not sure I will go back to Sosua, as I can find all of these things, and more, elsewhere.
Not sure what a fantasist is but I can assume based off context clues.
LOL I get you're trying to embarrass me or something? But when I posted that a while ago I genuinely meant PR as in Puerto Rico. As I am Puerto Rican but thanks. Doesn't change the fact I simply asked some questions so I don't end up missing or in prison.
I've included a pic of my flight details, some fantasy.Excuse the skepticism. When people with very few posts start asking questions which can easily be found in the forum, there are a few people who wonder if they are for real. When your only other post, 6 months ago, says you've been going to Tijuana and DR for 3 years and now you're planning a first trip to the DR, it's easy to assume you're not for real.
I am a little confused how a Puerto Rican could accidentally type DR instead of PR, but stranger things have happened. I'm also wondering why someone would go from Newark to Tijuana, rather than Cancun or even the DR. It's been a long time since I've been to Tijuana, but it would need some serious improvement before I'd travel farther than from downtown San Diego.
You're worried about ending up missing or in prison in Sosua, but you had no worries about Tijuana? Do you also wear a condom to church, but bareback with the girls in Tijuana? Sorry, my skepticism is leaking through again.
I can say, with absolute certainty, there is a 0% chance of you ending up missing or in prison in Sosua.
Lucky you, I was there mid June for 5 days and I met a grand total of 4 chicks of the type that can be considered slim, attractive, young chicas. The rest were all big mamas, just not my cup of tea.
This was my first trip to Sosua. Luckily, I enjoyed the beach, the people, and the food. Hence, I had a great time. However, I am not sure I will go back to Sosua, as I can find all of these things, and more, elsewhere.LMFAO, don't forget he's talking about 500 peso chicks that wear glasses and drink and do meth all night and service him in his wheelchair, but he does get his beer for 80 p, to each their own, I just did not like Sousa and wrote it as I seen it, I wear no glasses and don't partake in any kind of chemical, unlike the chicks that are blowing him!
Quagmire1974
07-05-16, 09:36
OK Mr e it's confirmed this place sucks no talent what so ever, I'm looking for next flight out, I've been around the world and never in my life wanted to get out of somewhere as I do here, the not looking back in rear view mirror is making sense now, WTF I'm stuck here? Thinking about heading to the city or another country all together, will explain more when I find my way out of here, you guys don't even want to know what I paid from Mia to pop for this fucking shithole! Now I'm up in air where to go quick! Looking like no matter what day of week Sosua is a past tense thing! Gross fat chicks everywhere.Sosua doesn't suck, you just picked the wrong time to go. The Caribbean is hot this time of year, and it's hurricane season. Those two facts, and others, are why this is the "Low Season" in the Caribbean, which means 1) few tourists and mongers and 2) few chicas.
Stick around. Catch a few rays on the beach. Go for a swim. Have a few ice-cold Presidentes and some of Big DS barbecued ribs. Come November through next March, there'll be more pussy in Sosua than you can shake your dick at.
OK Mr e it's confirmed this place sucks no talent what so ever, I'm looking for next flight out, I've been around the world and never in my life wanted to get out of somewhere as I do here, the not looking back in rear view mirror is making sense now, WTF I'm stuck here? Thinking about heading to the city or another country all together, will explain more when I find my way out of here, you guys don't even want to know what I paid from Mia to pop for this fucking shithole! Now I'm up in air where to go quick! Looking like no matter what day of week Sosua is a past tense thing! Gross fat chicks everywhere.OK. So Sosua is not your cup of tea.
It is just a tropical island, palm fringed beaches, close to home, cheap to get to and stay, with literally hundreds of local women offering cheap sex, you don't even have to get out of your chair to make their aquaintance, just a little eye contact.
Not for everybody.
But surely, anybody who knows how to click a mouse, can find more than enough info to get a clue what Sosua is like. There are Youtube tours, millions of photos, day and night, which show it at it's best and worst, and the type of women available. What you see is what you get!
To spend thousands on a place you obviously going to hate, is not very bright. Why go to a hamburger joint if you're looking for chinese?
OK. So Sosua is not your cup of tea.
It is just a tropical island, palm fringed beaches, close to home, cheap to get to and stay, with literally hundreds of local women offering cheap sex, you don't even have to get out of your chair to make their aquaintance, just a little eye contact.
Not for everybody.
But surely, anybody who knows how to click a mouse, can find more than enough info to get a clue what Sosua is like. There are Youtube tours, millions of photos, day and night, which show it at it's best and worst, and the type of women available. What you see is what you get!
To spend thousands on a place you obviously going to hate, is not very bright. Why go to a hamburger joint if you're looking for chinese?Hey Oakie,
Hope you are well, but Sosua is no longer a cheap destination to go to. When I started going almost ten years ago flights to POP were 275 usd round trip. Now I can't find anything less than 650 that doesn't have a layover in Miami and I live in Florida. Also the videos portray Sosua at its best as an exotic wonderland. So I can easily see how these guys can be misled if some of the current things are true. Several dynamics could be in play here Sir.
1). Maybe the recent election with the pro tourist candidate winning is causing the smart pretty girls to lay low awaiting the fallout.
2). Maybe guys have fallen for the " I'm a student and I don't want to be in Sosua " line and set the pretty girls up with money allowances to stay away from Sosua. This could possibly move the quality down a notch in Sosua as the big girls seize their opportunity. The cops have no interest in arresting the big girls because they have no desire to fuck them. Or maybe the dudes who have a preference for big girls have cultivated a market.
3). Maybe the turnover for the premium girls is very high thus creating other options. The premium girls will holdout for their price but the big girls will be more reasonable. After drinking for a couple hours in Rumba those big girls with the fun attitude become more desirable.
4). Maybe Mr E and Radshack have devised some diabolical plan to run off all mongers and have Sosua for themselves LOL, which I doubt. These are veteran travelers so I value their observations. Another option is the tourist board is flooding Sosua with ugly fat girls to kill the sex market, which I find funny.
Someone recently reported that during the week the families come out and enjoy Sosua but disappeared when the weekend wolf packs arrive. Our Sosua is in transition and the future is unknown but I still think it's a great place if you hunt in the path less explored. The side bars, Puerto Plata, even Cabarette offer a refreshing change with a side adventure. I've expanded because of the airfare prices and have found the hidden treasures on the other side of the island. I can fly into SDQ for 350 usd round trip and I have a great hotel on the outskirts of Boca Chica with big suites for 40 usd. Not very many mongers over that side to compete with plus you have San Pedro, La Romana, Andres, and Santo Domingo all within an hour bus ride for the girls. Most girls don't mind coming for a visit and what happens after that depends on how you operate.
Hopefully guys will continue reporting about their Sosua adventures good and bad. Isn't that what this board should be about?
Mr Enternational
07-05-16, 13:43
OK. So Sosua is not your cup of tea.
It is just a tropical island, palm fringed beaches, close to home, cheap to get to and stay, with literally hundreds of local women offering cheap sex, you don't even have to get out of your chair to make their aquaintance, just a little eye contact.
Not for everybody.Nobody is ragging on the beach, palm trees, or the cheapness. What you are discounting is the hideousness of the women that were there the day I was there or that the days the posters with other negative reports were there. Before I witnessed this for myself I would have said the same things to a first time visitor that you are saying. The whole while I was there, I was thinking of Lefeu's post; this mf was not delusional at all.
It is easy to tell someone they are crazy when you were not there at the same time that they were and were not privy to witness the same things that they witnessed. I didn't see it so therefore it ain't true. Like the mother who believes her kid is such an angel, but when not in her presence everyone knows him/her to be a devil. Not my child!
And literally hundreds of women? How many hookers would someone estimate Sosua as having at any given time? I wouldn't put the number as hundreds. Last Tuesday I can assure you that there were not even ONE hundred. And as I attested to before, only 3 of those were doable.
Nobody is ragging on the beach or the palm trees. What you are discounting is the hideousness of the women that were there the day I was there or that the days the posters with other negative reports were there. Before I witnessed this for myself I would have said the same things to a first time visitor that you are saying. The whole while I was there, I was thinking of Lefeu's post; this mf was not delusional at all.
It is easy to tell someone they are crazy when you were not there at the same time that they were and were not privy to witness the same things that they witnessed. I didn't see it so therefore it ain't true. Like the mother who believes her kid is such an angel, but when not in her presence everyone knows him/her to be a devil.
And literally hundreds of women? How many hookers would someone estimate Sosua as having at any given time? I wouldn't put the number as hundreds. Last Tuesday I can assure you that there were not even 100. And as I attested to before, only 3 of those were doable.So, will you personally ever return to Sosua?
Mr Enternational
07-05-16, 13:57
So, will you personally ever return to Sosua?I will return to Sosua because I have a chick in Puerto Plata that I have been seeing for 9 years. Would I plan a trip with the express purpose of going to Sosua is a better question. The answer is No. Actually I have not planned a trip to Sosua for years anyway. I just usually fall through Sosua anywhere from a couple of hours to 2 days max while I am up that way.
Like back during Superbowl weekend I was in Puerto Plata and only went to Sosua on the spur of the moment for a couple of hours to meet up with Revere (I was headed to bed when he called me), who I might add was only going there to take his girl and some of her family members for a night out.
Nobody is ragging on the beach, palm trees, or the cheapness. What you are discounting is the hideousness of the women that were there the day I was there or that the days the posters with other negative reports were there. Before I witnessed this for myself I would have said the same things to a first time visitor that you are saying. The whole while I was there, I was thinking of Lefeu's post; this mf was not delusional at all.
It is easy to tell someone they are crazy when you were not there at the same time that they were and were not privy to witness the same things that they witnessed. I didn't see it so therefore it ain't true. Like the mother who believes her kid is such an angel, but when not in her presence everyone knows him/her to be a devil. Not my child!
And literally hundreds of women? How many hookers would someone estimate Sosua as having at any given time? I wouldn't put the number as hundreds. Last Tuesday I can assure you that there were not even ONE hundred. And as I attested to before, only 3 of those were doable.I think there are 2 factors at play here. I'll call the first "gold fever. ".
Sosua has been a serious sex tourism destination for many years now. Every year more new people come to Sosua based on videos and reports that are 10 years old. Every year girls come to Sosua to get rich because their Aunt's, neighbor's friend's cousin met and married a millionaire there in 2003. The guys are certain they will find thousands of island beauties and the chicas are certain they'll find rich tourists. None of them realize the gold rush is over. There are still beauties to be found and there's still the occasional rich, lonely, gullible tourist willing to make a 1500 peso puta his wife, but both are in short supply.
None of this really matters to the new, fat, ugly chicas drifting into Sosua, or the new, fat, ugly tourists paying them. But, the experienced traveler, used to better days, feels the change and the real Dominican beauties know that Sosua is only worth their time on the busy days.
The other factor is perception. The great food at a restaurant doesn't taste as good after you see a cockroach run across the table. You're probably not ordering dessert.
It's easy to get a bad impression of Sosua, just walk down any street, day or night, and get pawed by 40 or 50 of the less appetizing women. Deal with a few that just don't appeal to you, but won't leave you alone and even the attractive ones start losing their shine.
I'm sure there are still good times to be had in Sosua, but it's not going to be the best time, every time.
Tempoecorto
07-05-16, 17:51
Like the pendulum, we are back to the usual topic. Summer is here and many do not or cannot get out to the island and so it is vicarious pleasure beating the old horse. Sosua is useless! I am not going to speculate or write a paper on the "supposed" causes but I sure was hoping Mr. Enternational is going to give Sosua a slip, LOL, . He already has the debonair demeanor so girls throw themselves at him, and for no money, to boot. As for the rest, good riddance: I will have more to choose from, fat and slim, old and young! Viva la Republica Dominican!
Like the pendulum, we are back to the usual topic. Summer is here and many do not or cannot get out to the island and so it is vicarious pleasure beating the old horse. Sosua is useless! I am not going to speculate or write a paper on the "supposed" causes but I sure was hoping Mr. Enternational is going to give Sosua a slip, LOL, . He already has the debonair demeanor so girls throw themselves at him, and for no money, to boot. As for the rest, good riddance: I will have more to choose from, fat and slim, old and young! Viva la Republica Dominican!LOL.
Nothing's quite what it used to be, including my dick.
But I'll make a prediction.
Around December, this board will light up with rave reports, and the usual suspects will be "me too-ing" and trying to top each other's stories :)
I will return to Sosua because I have a chick in Puerto Plata that I have been seeing for 9 years. Would I plan a trip with the express purpose of going to Sosua is a better question. The answer is No. Actually I have not planned a trip to Sosua for years anyway. I just usually fall through Sosua anywhere from a couple of hours to 2 days max while I am up that way.
Like back during Superbowl weekend I was in Puerto Plata and only went to Sosua on the spur of the moment for a couple of hours to meet up with Revere (I was headed to bed when he called me), who I might add was only going there to take his girl and some of her family members for a night out.Interesting. I only go to Sosua because of a) the nightclubs / discos cause I love to hang around such places with the puta dressed pros! LOL,. And After 1 cause sometimes I enjoy staying out until 4 am b) the craziness and interesting things you see on Sosua beach, families and all. C) a couple of real good restaurants like Baileys and decent digs at Casa Cayena (now renamed Sosua sunrise).
As for the chicas, except for 2, all of the chicas I met up wth in about 4 total months of time (last 2 years) have been from Puerto Plata, with a few visiting me from Santiago or even as far as SD or Higuey. Unlike in Pattaya, I have found that FB and the Cupid site works well for me in Pto Pta as I don't care for pros. To each his own approach / methods, and what works, I guess.
I will be back in Oct for 3 weeks, split between Sosua, Pto Pta ( Costambar and Lifestyle) and Cabarete. The point being I still love the Pto Pta area.... I do like the DR girls in this part of the DR.
Quagmire1974
07-06-16, 18:43
Unlike in Pattaya, I have found that FB and the Cupid site works well for me in Pto Pta as I don't care for pros. To each his own approach / methods, and what works, I guess.Regarding FB (Facebook), how does that work? Do you simply get on there and look for the profiles of hot chicas living in Puerto Plata and then strike up a conversation? Or are there specific FB pages where chicas are slyly offering their services?
Hey Oakie,
Hope you are well, but Sosua is no longer a cheap destination to go to. When I started going almost ten years ago flights to POP were 275 usd round trip. Now I can't find anything less than 650 that doesn't have a layover in Miami and I live in Florida. Also the videos portray Sosua at its best as an exotic wonderland. So I can easily see how these guys can be misled if some of the current things are true. Several dynamics could be in play here Sir.There are a few of our regular contributors who seem to be in Sosua denial.
They bad mouth the place but are always somehow there (with an excuse of course) even if it's just to tell us what a shit hole it is, 30 times in two years in some cases. LOL.
First I don't go to places I consider a shit hole, and certainly not the 30 times in 2 years that Mr. E mentions.
I don't find myself in the same resaurant, time after time, badmouthing the food to the other patrons. What's the point?
Then he says he would NEVER plan to go there, (the devil makes him do it ?) :) so I think he has a problem.
Like the addict, drunk, or the gambler, he has no choice in the matter, and always with the excuse to be there.
Sosua, love it or leave it!
There are a few of our regular contributors who seem to be in Sosua denial.
They bad mouth the place but are always somehow there (with an excuse of course) even if it's just to tell us what a shit hole it is, 30 times in two years in some cases. LOL.
First I don't go to places I consider a shit hole, and certainly not the 30 times in 2 years that Mr. E mentions.
I don't find myself in the same resaurant, time after time, badmouthing the food to the other patrons. What's the point?
Then he says he would NEVER plan to go there, (the devil makes him do it ?) :) so I think he has a problem.
Like the addict, drunk, or the gambler, he has no choice in the matter, and always with the excuse to be there.
Sosua, love it or leave it!I am not sure what the issue is here. I always stop through Sosua on my way to puerta plata. Sometimes I even stay overnight. I like hanging out there sometimes, but does not mean I have to sample the merchandise if I do not like the quality and I am not stuck there hoping I find the diamond in the rough. I never put myself in that position after travelling all that way, but that is just me. Who cares what I do and think. That happens a lot with me I go to sosua all the time I do not like what I see have fun and keep it moving. The Dominican Republic has beautiful women all over, but you have to move around to see them. I know many people are afraid to drive, but not afraid to be with a women whose job is to sleep with random men everyday. Some people might think that is more risky than driving and meeting a quality girl. Again, to each his own choice. If people do not like what they see why can't they not say what they feel I am never offended what people think and glad they say what they feel. Let men be men do what they want and say what they think. Some.people.might say your crazy beautiful women in sosua then you see his girlfriends and say i understand why is is not happy you do not know a man's taste might be better than yours.
Mr Enternational
07-08-16, 01:40
There are a few of our regular contributors who seem to be in Sosua denial.
They bad mouth the place but are always somehow there (with an excuse of course) even if it's just to tell us what a shit hole it is, 30 times in two years in some cases. LOL.
First I don't go to places I consider a shit hole, and certainly not the 30 times in 2 years that Mr. E mentions.
Then he says he would NEVER plan to go there, (the devil makes him do it ?) :) so I think he has a problem.
Like the addict, drunk, or the gambler, he has no choice in the matter, and always with the excuse to be there.Hehehe. Leave it to old Oakie to poke fun about something he got totally wrong. RIF. Besides not calling Sosua a shithole, I said
I have been to Sosua about 30 times in the past 10 years and definitely during each of the months that you have listed, but I have never seen it like it was last night.
Hehehe. Leave it to old Oakie to poke fun about something he got totally wrong. RIF. Besides not calling Sosua a shithole, I saidApologies for misquoting you!
Aside from that if my opinion upsets folks, so be it. Hehee!
Camaro1257
07-08-16, 13:05
Sosua changes.
On July 7th Policia Nacional started enforcing an old rule in Sosua. Businesses that sell alcohol will closed at midnight Monday. Thursday and 2 am on the weekends. It was reported Rumbas closed at midnight and Classicos was dead also. CESTUR was taking chicas who were walking solo in custody, they had to pay from 1500 - 2000 pesos to get released. At 1 am there was almost no traffic on Pedro Clisante.
Kviar in Puerto Plata was ROCKIN!
I was in Kviar (the club next to the casino in Puerto Plata) after 1 am and all of a sudden I saw faces from Classicos during the same time I was getting live Sosua updates on whatsapp from friends who were in town. I saw one chic from Classicos and I said "que estas hacienda en mi ciudad?" and she cracked up laughing. ROTFL! The Kviar crew started looking around like WTF is going on here I hope we don't have the Clash of the Titans. LOL!
Tempoecorto
07-08-16, 16:37
If people do not like what they see why can't they not say what they feel.I agree with you. It is an open forum and all are free to air their thoughts. It is when a visitor (unlike Mr. E who is rather balanced) opines based on a short stay, that the problem arises. Bad days, months, seasons are all part of the game but anyone new reading the circumscribed view of a short stay may misconstrue it as the whole and complete picture, which as you experienced, is not correct.
Charles Pooter
07-08-16, 16:56
On July 7th Policia Nacional started enforcing an old rule in Sosua.Odd choice of words. How about "belatedly started enforcing the law in Sosua"?
Damn, I hope it's temporary, otherwise I have the worst luck. Not that I care about picking up girls past midnight, but I assume this will reduce the number of girls who come to Sosua at all. I'm set to arrive on the 28th.
I will be on the ground soon and will let you guys know how it is working. I am not a late night action guy so shutting down early may help me. Often the best girls come out at 12 when I am shutting down. This could get them out earlier which is a plus for me. I have had to make some tough choices. One of my old girls could only see me on Monday evening in Santiago which would be a strain so I am passing on her.
Sosua changes.
On July 7th Policia Nacional started enforcing an old rule in Sosua. Businesses that sell alcohol will closed at midnight Monday. Thursday and 2 am on the weekends. It was reported Rumbas closed at midnight and Classicos was dead also. CESTUR was taking chicas who were walking solo in custody, they had to pay from 1500 - 2000 pesos to get released. At 1 am there was almost no traffic on Pedro Clisante.
Kviar in Puerto Plata was ROCKIN!
I was in Kviar (the club next to the casino in Puerto Plata) after 1 am and all of a sudden I saw faces from Classicos during the same time I was getting live Sosua updates on whatsapp from friends who were in town. I saw one chic from Classicos and I said "que estas hacienda en mi ciudad?" and she cracked up laughing. ROTFL! The Kviar crew started looking around like WTF is going on here I hope we don't have the Clash of the Titans. LOL!
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