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KelvinDr1973
08-21-16, 03:18
I have one but spanish speaking only, do you speak spanish?I do airport pick ups from Santiago for $65 US od $3500 pesos I've been living and driving her for 3 years I'm retired navy and you can't beat the price.
I do airport pick ups ... I've been living and driving "her " ** for 3 years I'm retired navy and you can't beat the price.Fair Warning!
Navy Guy will want to "drive" you / her. On the way over! Hence the lower price? You will pay the additional ' in kind '. And, it may a hard drive on his motoconcho !!!
And, he may even want to cook for you!
Just kidding. I can vouch for this dude! He is a good guy!
Hi, Kelvin: You back in Sosua? Or still in SFO de Mac?
I do airport pick ups from Santiago for $65 US od $3500 pesos I've been living and driving her for 3 years I'm retired navy and you can't beat the price.You ever heard of an alias homie! No one should ever use their real name on any of these monger forums!!
The issue here is that people are on vacation and want to go out and party. What party do you know that gets started at 8 pm? Guys like Old Kool like to go into the club and dance with the girls.
But guys on vacation are not trying to go that direct route. They want to buy bottles of liquor and champagne, eye different chicks, and celebrate. They want to do as they do back home, but be guaranteed to get some ass at the end of the night.
When you are living somewhere you are not taking the vacationers route.When I go in a disco in Thailand, I collect numbers and like you, will just call one of them over another night about 8 pm or so to come spend the night with me. I have alcohol in my crib if I want to drink. No need nor desire to stay out at all times of the night.I want to fine tune this a little bit, for the sake of those who may need to put some of this in some workable perspective. Everything you say is applicable. The main thing to make clear for the masses is that IT ONLY APPLIES TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS. I'm pointing it out, but not implying you are saying otherwise.
Not all guys want to go out and party. There are many vacationing guys coming to Sosua who don't buy bottles of liquor, don't hang out late, and have no need to celebrate. And don't necessarily do any thing special back home. The reason why I'm saying this, is because the interests and concerns of those mongers who are affected by the early closings of their favorite places, are not representative of the masses, only themselves.
Their interests and concerns does not dictate what Sosua represents for those who are not affected significantly. So all of the assessments and complaints of Sosua, including the so called lack of talent so on and so forth, is representative of a small group of individuals who will have no impact on anybody elses enjoyment of Sosua. Besides, there are always going to be different perspectives due to life experience, and age. A guy in his 30's or 40's trying to tell me that there's no talent in Sosua, or that most of the chicas are fat, ugly, hoodrat etc, I don't buy into that. A guy in his 50's, 60's through to the 80's may not have a problem finding a bunch of decent 6's available to get the job done. Many of my best regulars were my 6 and 7's. Many of the uppers were more or less a disappointment on one level or another. High maintenance, too much divatude or heavy mileage from being in demand.
I know some folks know one of my sayings. "YOU CAN ONLY THINK IN ONE HEAD" I'm applying it this way, Just because a group or indivduals feel / think a certain way, or have had a certain experience, none of that necessarily represents someone elses experience or personal assessment. After hours party goers don't necessarily represent how others enjoy their time in Sosua or the DR. Their failure to get what they need because what they are accustomed to isnt available, will not be taken into consideration except to whom else it may apply.
From the time I 1st started coming to Sosua on vacation, and up to officially living here in the DR for 2 yrs, hanging out late was never a routine for me. I had / have no urge or interest in popping bottles, or making it rain. I don't smoke, but lightly drink. Whereever I go, I'm a people watcher. And I'm always meeting and greeting people. In those encounters I talk to a lot of people everyday. It's quite clear to me, that there are plenty of vacationers who do not go to any of the clubs / discos. Don't care to be out 1,2 to 4 in the morning. I've met more than enough vacationers that don't drink. And don't smoke. And can't stand to be around cigarette or cigar smoke. None of this is affecting them to the point that they need to find another mongering destination.
So it's astonishing reading comments from board members from various sites, or having to answer questions of guys living abroad (USA etc) about the alleged crackdown, or demise of Sosua. And mainly because they heard of a few venues closing, chicas temporarily getting arrested every night, and the closing off of streets to vehicular traffic. Meanwhile some are totally ignoring that this is still slow season in Sosua. This past Friday and last night the strip was packed with people. Classico was packed. One guy I know, paid for Classico but backed out once he saw how overcrowded it was. People will pack a place, when you give them only 2 late nights to party, and not the whole week like before.
Passions, CMP, dee latins have been closed for years now. What did people do? Adapt, complain out the ass, or do like CubaDave, bounce. I never actually got chicas in or out of Passions or CMP. I only went to see what it was about, or show somebody else. I soon realized that most of those chicas could be had easily when they werent working there. Many were staying in rooms or hotels nearby. Youd see them going to the colmado, salon etc, but so dressed down youd hardly recognize that that was the same sexy chica you saw up in Passions / CMP a previous night. So closing of CMP or passions wasnt that big of a deal, except for the fact that the chicas were semi supervised, and I believe tested for STD's. They closed, and people had to deal with it. All Cuba Dave had to do is get the chicas he liked from those venues, and hook up with them elsewhere. What was the big deal that he had to have Passions or CMP open just to get with the same girls?
I've come to the realization that many guys that come to Sosua shoot themselves in the foot acting like they are sedated and don't know how to do anything outside of the box. Staying within the confines of the strip seems to be their primary objective. When I was coming to Sosua on vacation, i sought the information I needed to enhance my experience and personal safety. I learned my way around, including some of the neighboring towns. Started picking up the names of the streets / venues. Went to many of the hotels to check for future consideration, so if my usual hotel was unavailable, I had options. I rented cars so I could explore outside of Sosua. I extracted as much info as I could from other mongers, expats, and even learned from the locals. Many of my friends, never did any of that. Many never tried to learn more spanish either. And constantly had to be helped in translating some gibberish some chica sent them. Or communication common to places they visited often, like a restaurant.
I would learn as much as I could about everything that would be helpful down the road. Meanwhile Id talk to enough guys who will need to know where ATMS or exchange places are, but wouldn't bother seeking that info beforehand until they are in a jam and need something. Wouldn't know where the beach was, nor would they ask. Some folks (many are personal friends) just are not wired to learn as much as they can of their environment. Its sad, but some folks don't even know how to use much of this technology we have at our disposal (computers / phones / tablets, apps etc).
Many guys are walking around oblivious to what's around them. To this day, I can ask enough guys do they know where certain very commom places are in Sosua that thery passed by, and they wouldn't be able to do it, because it never occured to them to take note for future reference. Or you take guys to specific places, and they can't freaking remember how to get there again. They are like wives and Gfs sitting in the passenger seat looking but not paying attention.
This is 3rd party unsubstantiated or confirmed info. An expat buddy of mine claims some turistas got stabbed last night by their chicas? Anybody know anything about this?
Mr Enternational
08-21-16, 18:08
Besides, there are always going to be different perspectives due to life experience, and age. A guy in his 30's or 40's trying to tell me that there's no talent in Sosua, or that most of the chicas are fat, ugly, hoodrat etc, I don't buy into that. A guy in his 50's, 60's through to the 80's may not have a problem finding a bunch of decent 6's available to get the job done. Many of my best regulars were my 6 and 7's. Many of the uppers were more or less a disappointment on one level or another. High maintenance, too much divatude or heavy mileage from being in demand.
I never actually got chicas in or out of Passions or CMP. I only went to see what it was about, or show somebody else. I soon realized that most of those chicas could be had easily when they werent working there. Many were staying in rooms or hotels nearby. Youd see them going to the colmado, salon etc, All Cuba Dave had to do is get the chicas he liked from those venues, and hook up with them elsewhere. What was the big deal that he had to have Passions or CMP open just to get with the same girls?You are still speaking like a local though. Remember most guys who are visiting have more money than time, AND they want to get the best looking chicks they can.
I am telling you that I preach the exact same thing in the Thailand thread. The same chicks that work in those gogos that you will walk in and pay $100+ for, you can get for 1/3 that amount. When they get off work they go to the discos. Most guys say well I am not trying to stay up until 3 am when that happens. But the same girls walk around in the day time outside of work hours like you said.
I was with a brother from the board named Cool in Thailand last month. About 4 pm, we were sitting in the market talking and I saw some chicks who were getting food. I told them to come sit with us. Come to find out they were getting food before going to work at the gogo. I had them both give their numbers to Cool so he could set up something with them outside of work hours. Before that, he had been going in the gogos paying the high prices.
Also, living there, like you said you have had the top notch chicks already and can now willy nilly pick 6s when you want. But what do most visitors say? I can fuck somebody like that back home. I come here to get something better than back home. If I have to pay, then I am certainly not paying for a 6. They are not trying to pay all that money travelling to another country to get 6s. Plus they only have a few days or a week to fulfill their carnal pleasures. So they are trying to get the quick drive-thru service. If they let something pass, they may never run into it again on the trip. You are there for the long haul and can operate differently than they do by sitting at the table and putting the napkin on the front of your shirt before ordering from the waitress.
You ever heard of an alias homie! No one should ever use their real name on any of these monger forums!!Haha. The man does too!
I believe he is using this purely for his taxi gig.
And, BTW, the man does not monger! He is an ex Navy guy. Need he say more? 👻😜😇
You are still speaking like a local though. Remember most guys who are visiting have more money than time, AND they want to get the best looking chicks they can.
I am telling you that I preach the exact same thing in the Thailand thread. The same chicks that work in those gogos that you will walk in and pay $100+ for, you can get for 1/3 that amount. When they get off work they go to the discos. Most guys say well I am not trying to stay up until 3 am when that happens. But the same girls walk around in the day time outside of work hours like you said.
I was with a brother from the board named Cool in Thailand last month. About 4 pm, we were sitting in the market talking and I saw some chicks who were getting food. I told them to come sit with us. Come to find out they were getting food before going to work at the gogo. I had them both give their numbers to Cool so he could set up something with them outside of work hours. Before that, he had been going in the gogos paying the high prices.
Also, living there, like you said you have had the top notch chicks already and can now willy nilly pick 6's when you want. But what do most visitors say? I can fuck somebody like that back home. I come here to get something better than back home. They are not trying to pay all that money travelling to another country to get 6's. Plus they only have a few days or a week to fulfill their carnal pleasures. So they are trying to get the quick drive-thru service. If they let something pass, they may never run into it again on the trip. You are there for the long haul and can operate differently than they do by sitting at the table and putting the napkin on the front of your shirt before ordering from the waitress.I understand what you are saying E, really I do. All I'm saying is, the mindset you speak of ONLY applies to THOSE guys. And that is THEIR problem. Me being here full time to talk to so many guys, it doesn't appear to me that MOST guys go for the 9's and 10's or require going to the disco.
To an extent you were correct about me viewing things as a local. Its possible that I am exposed to a lot more guys on a daily and weekly basis to talk to and observe their behavior than guys who come every so often. So my observation, perspective and interaction of what old and young guys go for should be taken in consideration. Now just because I do not go to Classico or routinely stay up late mean I haven't picked the brains of many of the guys that come here. Thing is, you can sort of measure or guess the numbers of guys going out to the club cause you see them. Those going home with 6's may be barely noticed. And it would be hard to measure the numbers of guys that don't come out late, or already are squared away for the day / night.
There are plenty of guys, even on short term vacation who are not going for the dimes, and not interested in going to the club / disco. I can say that's true of a significant number of guys younger or older. So the only thing that is debatable is whether or not it's Most guys, or simply only those it applies to. I believe it's the latter.
Mr Enternational
08-21-16, 22:01
Me being here full time to talk to so many guys, it doesn't appear to me that MOST guys go for the 9's and 10's That is apparent when you are somewhere live and in person, but when they come on ISG 9 out of 10 mongers will not admit to that. They claim to have all this criteria that has to be met, but when you see mongers walking with a hooker, usually it is just a regular ass chick. I don't see too many mongers walking down the street with the beauty queens they have claimed to get.
That is apparent when you are somewhere live and in person, but when they come on ISG 9 out of 10 mongers will not admit to that.The last 4 yrs I've been in sosua pretty much every two months. A LOT of guys go with 6's!! The trophy hunters are the minority. As long as their happy it's all good IMO.
Troubleman69
08-21-16, 22:26
That is apparent when you are somewhere live and in person, but when they come on ISG 9 out of 10 mongers will not admit to that. They claim to have all this criteria that has to be met, but when you see mongers walking with a hooker, usually it is just a regular ass chick. I don't see too many mongers walking down the street with the beauty queens they have claimed to get.One man's 9 or 10, is another man's 6. I like voluptuous women, meaning I like tits and ass, without the stomach. Judging by the photos and comments here, many would not find that attractive. I'm cool with that, because many of the women in photos posted here are not attractive to me either.
One man's 9 or 10, is another man's 6. I like voluptuous women, meaning I like tits and ass, without the stomach. Judging by the photos and comments here, many would not find that attractive. I'm cool with that, because many of the women in photos posted here are not attractive to me either.That's the great thing about Sosua, there's something for everybody, and it's all in a couple of square blocks!
Troubleman69
08-21-16, 23:36
That's the great thing about Sosua, there's something for everybody, and it's all in a couple of square blocks!I have never visited Sosua, because I'm satisfied visiting Santo Domingo, but I'm sure you are 100% correct.
Don't worry.
It is safe to say that hookers care more about dinero, than "lack of decorum" or "discretion".
You guys slay me.
Johns, tricks, and marks are not usually noted for their "decorum"!Speak for yourself.
KelvinDr1973
08-22-16, 05:11
I have one but Spanish speaking only, do you speak Spanish?
Speak for yourself.I been living here for a while there are 8's an 9's in Sosua Thursday threw Sunday the problem is they know they are fine. But seriously I don't understand how y'all comes here and leave wit 4's and 5's I see it everyday, and I am in the street everyday. I see better looking regular Dominican chicks walking down the streets than what these dudes be pulling out of Classics. Just makes me Laugh.
That is apparent when you are somewhere live and in person, but when they come on ISG 9 out of 10 mongers will not admit to that. They claim to have all this criteria that has to be met, but when you see mongers walking with a hooker, usually it is just a regular ass chick. I don't see too many mongers walking down the street with the beauty queens they have claimed to get.No dispute from me regarding what's said on forums. And yup, just a regular chick. But I was speaking strictly from what I see on the regular, my interactions and conversations with guys right here in Sosua. I would say most of the cats under 40 and slightly over tend to be the age group that are more apt to pursue the night life we spoke of. But when you get to many of the guys well over 50.60 and even 70, the numbers going to the disco / club tend to drop off in comparison to the younger cats.
Older cats can be seen moreso hanging out at the bars and restaurants. And chicas are always on patrol nearby to get some cats attention. Not to mention, if any guy starts walking down the street early evening until late, 80% of the time he will run into chicas trying to get hired on the spot. Chicas patrol in front of many of the hotels close to the strip, looking for work. And they get it. A guy knocks off one or two like that, by the time he hits the street to get food or entertainment he aint too concerned about getting laid again at 3 am by a chica from the club / disco.
In addition I get to hear reports from guys that tell me they used to go to the disco, but they no longer do. Reasons? Too crowded. Too noisy. The so called dimes that show up after 12 usually want crazy money, that these guys no longer are willing to pay. Enough guys have finally figured out that you can get these chicas before they even get up in classicos, and sometimes get them for less. Enough have realized that even the so called best looking chica in the club, aint nothing more than a 6 or 7, heavily made up with facade gear. Enough have realized that the same chica he saw on the beach earlier in the day, has somehow transformed into a sexy 7- 9. So some figure , why pay her 4000 + if she is really a 1500 to 2000 peso chica?
Another complaint enough guys have, and maybe more a concern than the cost, is the whack, mechanical, overly businesslike service many chicas provide. Which is why enough guys tell me, and I echo their sentiments, that theyd rather have a 6 that gives the service they want, than deal with a fucked up experience with a chica that could care less about offering the type of service that might garner repeat business and references for future clients. Thats not to say however, that less attractive chicas are always less problematic. Its always a roll of the dice when dealing with these females.
We are in accord, that there are tons of guys that do not give a damn about any of that. Like you said, they have money to burn. And they don't give a shit about any of the shit I said. They want to party, they want to be the big dog, and they don't really care how much it cost. However, if their prized venue ends up closed or not available like they were accustomed to, they will be forced to adapt.
And if they really want to show how significant their money/patronage is, let them put that to work to keep their club / disco open. If their money or influence can't do that, then they will just have to deal with it and adapt like everybody else.
Speak for yourself.LOL.
Nothing says "decorum" and "discretion" like a trick standing there with his pants down, and taking pictures of her pussy to post on a public board, or waiting around the pool at the New Garden for sloppy seconds.
I have never visited Sosua, because I'm satisfied visiting Santo Domingo, but I'm sure you are 100% correct.You can get everything from a 20 minute session with a 20 year old spinner, point and clicked off the sidewalk, in a $10 room next door to your bar, (take your beer with you).
To a fantasy moonlight and candlelight dinner with a big boobed bubble butt beauty on Cabarete beach, with wine, lobster and a strolling band of musicians (costs a little extra).
And for a little more extra you can invite her "cousin" along too.
That was true 9 years ago, and it is true today!
The last 4 yrs I've been in sosua pretty much every two months. A LOT of guys go with 6's!! The trophy hunters are the minority. As long as their happy it's all good IMO.One clear reason (not saying its the only reason) IMO why the trophy hunters appear to be in the minority, is because the trophys themselves are in the minority, compared to the abundance of regular (but attractive) chicas. ID estimate (being generous) maybe 15 trophy type chicas show up to the club, and the rest are just average attractive chicas? You may have 30 or more guys in the club looking for a trophy.
But finding themselves quickly adapting to what's available because there arent that many trophy chicas (9 and 10;s) to meet the "TH" demand. In addition, enough trophy chicas fail to get business from certain guys because of their attitude and body language. Turns some guys off. Moreover, if a trophy hunter is not a night owl, and / or doesn't like clubs, he will likely pick HIS trophys from the best of what's available, but not in the club / disco.
One man's 9 or 10, is another man's 6. I like voluptuous women, meaning I like tits and ass, without the stomach. Judging by the photos and comments here, many would not find that attractive. I'm cool with that, because many of the women in photos posted here are not attractive to me either.True. In addition, often when guys rate women theyve been with, they are factoring in their overall experience with that woman and how they made them feel. And that can boost that womans attractiveness when they make their assessment. The reason why I say this, is because often I have talked to a guy about a chica, and hes going on and on about how beautiful she was, how nice her body was, how cute her face was, etc.
I get to see a pic of the chica or he points her out to me, and it's clear to me beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. And that it was probably her overall manner with him that made the difference in how he would rate her high on his scale. I too recall photos shared here from board members of chicas. But when you see them here in Sosua, you know right off the bat it's not their looks alone that got them high reviews.
LOL.
Nothing says "decorum" and "discretion" like a trick standing there with his pants down, and taking pictures of her pussy to post on a public board, or waiting around the pool at the New Garden for sloppy seconds.Well spoken.
StudBucket
08-23-16, 05:52
Hello There Fellos ISG members.
Its been about 2 years since I've been in Sosua, only because my buddies and I have been traveling a lot to Asia, Costa Rica, and other places. I really enjoyed Sosua last time I was there. I am wondering if a couple of guys here that have been on the ground recently can assist us with the questions below so we can decide if things have not changed much. My boys and I want to go this fall, but they are somewhat apprehensive hearing about the early closures, chica raids, and rumors about club closures.
1) How do the early closures at 12 am change the scene for people such as myself that are used to staying out later? I know Friday and Saturdays are not impacted by this, but Tuesday through Thursday are. Are the clubs like Clasicos starting earlier during these days to adjust and people going earlier, like 9 pm or is it dead Mon through Thurs. ?
2) Want to make sure Rumba's is open still, yes or no? Are Rumbas, Clasicos, and Bourbon Street still the top places as of recent?
3) How is the casino after hours scene for the girls in terms of quality and is it a cool place to hang out or not? I remember it mediocre last time?
I did read all of the recent posts and stay on top of the posts here, but there still does not seem to be a lot of opinions and recent intel regarding the above. The posts by Turgid and Adinga implied doom is on the horizon in Sousa and were not too favorable. A couple of others stated that not much has changed. So thanks, your responses are greatly appreciated. We want to really make sure we are making the right decision or should we wait til things cool off and return to normal ?
Question what rates should I negotiate once I'm in Sosua for ST and LT? What is reasonable?
Charles Pooter
08-23-16, 15:59
Question what rates should I negotiate once I'm in Sosua for ST and LT? What is reasonable?How much money do you have?
Guys who are loaded seem happy to pay 3500 to 4000 for ST. Guys on a budget pay 1500 for ST. In my experience of nine years and that of my closest friends, there is no difference in the quality of the chicas. (Sometimes they are the same chicas).
Guys on short vacations are at a disadvantage, because if you want instant "point-and-click" you may end up paying more. If you have time to look round the back streets and nearby villages and bateys and build a list of phone numbers, you can totally control what you pay. Also, whether you can speak Spanish and/or French can influence what you can agree a lot. So does how sober you are.
LT is more complicated. Depends on the arrangements. You may or may not be paying dinner, breakfast, transport and buying clothes.
Hello There Fellos ISG members.
Its been about 2 years since I've been in Sosua, only because my buddies and I have been traveling a lot to Asia, Costa Rica, and other places. I really enjoyed Sosua last time I was there. I am wondering if a couple of guys here that have been on the ground recently can assist us with the questions below so we can decide if things have not changed much. My boys and I want to go this fall, but they are somewhat apprehensive hearing about the early closures, chica raids, and rumors about club closures.
1) How do the early closures at 12 am change the scene for people such as myself that are used to staying out later? I know Friday and Saturdays are not impacted by this, but Tuesday through Thursday are. Are the clubs like Clasicos starting earlier during these days to adjust and people going earlier, like 9 pm or is it dead Mon through Thurs. ?
2) Want to make sure Rumba's is open still, yes or no? Are Rumbas, Clasicos, and Bourbon Street still the top places as of recent?
3) How is the casino after hours scene for the girls in terms of quality and is it a cool place to hang out or not? I remember it mediocre last time?
I did read all of the recent posts and stay on top of the posts here, but there still does not seem to be a lot of opinions and recent intel regarding the above. The posts by Turgid and Adinga implied doom is on the horizon in Sousa and were not too favorable. A couple of others stated that not much has changed. So thanks, your responses are greatly appreciated. We want to really make sure we are making the right decision or should we wait til things cool off and return to normal ?IMO in order to fine tune helping you, one might need more feedback from you. Rather than guessing of what may motivate you.
You had a good time last year. How so? Doing what? What made it a good time for you, and what do you think you need to happen to duplicate that good time? If everything you were accustomed to last visit were closed, and only the chicas were present, could you still have a good time?
My point is, nobody here knows what motivates you and your buddies. It could be a combination of things with various degrees. Some more important than others. Nobody knows the combination of things you guys may need in place in order for you to be content. You have to supply that information. You may mis interpret or misapply the feedback you get, and how it may impact your trip.
For guys like myself (if you've been reading) we don't need any of the clubs or discos in order to have a good time, or to pursue the ultimate goal, which is smashing chicas. So far, I have not seen or heard of any mongers smashing chicas inside the disco or club. Most of that happens in ones hotel or apartment. The P4P chicas can be approached everywhere outside of the clubs / discos. All a guy has to do is just look. Music and alcohol can be enjoyed in ones hotel / apartment. Guys can meet chicas during the day just walking around.
So my point is, it would be more helpful to know exactly what it is you want / expect in order for you to feel fulfilled in your trip? And what would stop you from enjoying it? Why would a bar,club, disco closed early prevent you from adapting, and still have a good time?
You mentioned chica raids? In Sosua, what's happening is that chicas are specifically, and randomly getting arrested andf escorted to jail. Then after they post a fine, they are free to go. If they can't pay, I believe they stay over night. None of this going on should be taken to mean that chicas are swept away never to be seen again. Quite the contrary. Every single one of them are back on the strip at least the next day, if not within the hour. There are many chicas the police totally ignore and don't bother.
Its just an appearance game. Its real for those chicas who had to part with any pesos to get out. But it's not a game ending experience. In fact many chicas may actually enjoy the challenge. Because many of them are laughing and smiling when the police come around, and they start running. Its comical. So please do not sweat all of the rumors and distortions and assume more than what's going on. Chicas being chased aint that serious. Understand this. Chicas accompanied by a male escort are usually not bothered. Although I have seen chicas snatched up trying to pretend they were with a guy standing nearby.
Chicas sitting inside the bars and restaurants are not bothered. Its the ones patrolling the sidewalk back and forth like extras in a movie that are mostly targeted. Or chicas trying to walk alone or with other deer in headlights looking chicas around the blocks looking for work. Chicas that look new to the scene, are easily spotted and picked up. 6 months later they will be veteran sprinters or left alone because the cops know them. If they are Haitianas, they can for get it. They may be always a target by police.
Some chicas have elected to try their luck going to other places nearby for work. Cabarete, Puerto Plata etc. And still come back to Sosua.
So if you and your friends mindset has been clouded with the idea that you guys can't have a good time in Sosua unless places like Classico and Rumba is open, and can't deal with chicas being chased on a nightly basis, then I really don't know what anybody can offer to help you see differently? Your trip may be doomed just from bad intel and assumptions.
Hello There Fellos ISG members.
Its been about 2 years since I've been in Sosua, only because my buddies and I have been traveling a lot to Asia, Costa Rica, and other places. I really enjoyed Sosua last time I was there. I am wondering if a couple of guys here that have been on the ground recently can assist us with the questions below so we can decide if things have not changed much. My boys and I want to go this fall, but they are somewhat apprehensive hearing about the early closures, chica raids, and rumors about club closures...........We want to really make sure we are making the right decision or should we wait til things cool off and return to normal ?"Doom" is always on the horizon for Sosua, but like all Doomsdays, it never actually gets here. I even hear folks party harder on the eve of Doom.
I'll be there soon but friends tell me that it is still rocking.
Classico is still busy enough during the week, and actually packed like sardines at the weekend, and this is supposed to be the slow season. The street is still alive with chicas and the other bars are busier than usual.
Rumba and Latins are still closed, but work is going on at both and it looks like they will be reopening, albeit in a new not so much in your face format. City Lights has been refurbished as a party spot and has good potential.
There's the beach for some daytime action.
After hours during the week some action moves to the Casino, but I wouldn't worry about you and you buddies dance cards not being filled up for the whole week.
The sporadic chica roundup is not a concern. Prostitution is legal, so it's more like pest control, and the cops don't harass mongers.
Something for everybody. Your problems will be deciding on repeats, or trying out new stuff, and at least one of you will be falling in lust. Drag him away and convince him it's not love!
Business will be picking up even more by the time you get there, and it should be a little cooler!
Enjoy!
Quagmire1974
08-24-16, 21:27
Just passing this along for those who are interested:
http://www.ticotimes.net/2016/08/24/cuba-dave-trial-costa-rica
StudBucket
08-25-16, 06:23
"Doom" is always on the horizon for Sosua, but like all Doomsdays, it never actually gets here. I even hear folks party harder on the eve of Doom.
I'll be there soon but friends tell me that it is still rocking.
Classico is still busy enough during the week, and actually packed like sardines at the weekend, and this is supposed to be the slow season. The street is still alive with chicas and the other bars are busier than usual.
Rumba and Latins are still closed, but work is going on at both and it looks like they will be reopening, albeit in a new not so much in your face format. City Lights has been refurbished as a party spot and has good potential.
There's the beach for some daytime action.
After hours during the week some action moves to the Casino, but I wouldn't worry about you and you buddies dance cards not being filled up for the whole week.
The sporadic chica roundup is not a concern. Prostitution is legal, so it's more like pest control, and the cops don't harass mongers.
Something for everybody. Your problems will be deciding on repeats, or trying out new stuff, and at least one of you will be falling in lust. Drag him away and convince him it's not love!
Business will be picking up even more by the time you get there, and it should be a little cooler!
Enjoy!Thanks for your update Oakie, very straightforward and to the point. In other words, we should not be worried and there will be plenty of action. With that in mind, we will be heading back almost for certain. Looking forward to going back to the Sue.
StudBucket
08-25-16, 06:49
IMO in order to fine tune helping you, one might need more feedback from you. Rather than guessing of what may motivate you.
You had a good time last year. How so? Doing what? What made it a good time for you, and what do you think you need to happen to duplicate that good time? If everything you were accustomed to last visit were closed, and only the chicas were present, could you still have a good time?
My point is, nobody here knows what motivates you and your buddies. It could be a combination of things with various degrees. Some more important than others. Nobody knows the combination of things you guys may need in place in order for you to be content. You have to supply that information. You may mis interpret or misapply the feedback you get, and how it may impact your trip.
For guys like myself (if you've been reading) we don't need any of the clubs or discos in order to have a good time, or to pursue the ultimate goal, which is smashing chicas. So far, I have not seen or heard of any mongers smashing chicas inside the disco or club. Most of that happens in ones hotel or apartment. The P4P chicas can be approached everywhere outside of the clubs / discos. All a guy has to do is just look. Music and alcohol can be enjoyed in ones hotel / apartment. Guys can meet chicas during the day just walking around.
So my point is, it would be more helpful to know exactly what it is you want / expect in order for you to feel fulfilled in your trip? And what would stop you from enjoying it? Why would a bar,club, disco closed early prevent you from adapting, and still have a good time?
You mentioned chica raids? In Sosua, what's happening is that chicas are specifically, and randomly getting arrested andf escorted to jail. Then after they post a fine, they are free to go. If they can't pay, I believe they stay over night. None of this going on should be taken to mean that chicas are swept away never to be seen again. Quite the contrary. Every single one of them are back on the strip at least the next day, if not within the hour. There are many chicas the police totally ignore and don't bother.
Its just an appearance game. Its real for those chicas who had to part with any pesos to get out. But it's not a game ending experience. In fact many chicas may actually enjoy the challenge. Because many of them are laughing and smiling when the police come around, and they start running. Its comical. So please do not sweat all of the rumors and distortions and assume more than what's going on. Chicas being chased aint that serious. Understand this. Chicas accompanied by a male escort are usually not bothered. Although I have seen chicas snatched up trying to pretend they were with a guy standing nearby.
Chicas sitting inside the bars and restaurants are not bothered. Its the ones patrolling the sidewalk back and forth like extras in a movie that are mostly targeted. Or chicas trying to walk alone or with other deer in headlights looking chicas around the blocks looking for work. Chicas that look new to the scene, are easily spotted and picked up. 6 months later they will be veteran sprinters or left alone because the cops know them. If they are Haitianas, they can for get it. They may be always a target by police.
Some chicas have elected to try their luck going to other places nearby for work. Cabarete, Puerto Plata etc. And still come back to Sosua.
So if you and your friends mindset has been clouded with the idea that you guys can't have a good time in Sosua unless places like Classico and Rumba is open, and can't deal with chicas being chased on a nightly basis, then I really don't know what anybody can offer to help you see differently? Your trip may be doomed just from bad intel and assumptions.
Thanks for the response and you bring up some good points, its difficult to know exactly if we will like it as its subjective based on our likes and I get it because some guys like vanilla ice cream, others like chocolate, etc. What we liked about Sosua was the following: girls were curvy and were more exotic or different types shall we say (mulata, dark, mixed with few lighter ones), we liked that a lot. Also liked the value of the girls in most cases, can get long time for reasonable prices, compared to other popular mongering destinations. We definitely liked how everything is very central around the strip (Pedro Clisante) , and so condensed. Loved the beach aspect of the city vs. the big city feel. But, I do want to say that we do like the ability to go out later and go to discos or bars, and stay out later as we are on Vacation and don't see each much back home; hence that is why I asked if the casino was good for after hours. Based on the responses you and the Oak Man posted above it does seem that we will have to adapt and go out earlier. I understand you can have chicks in the room, go to restaurants, etc. but I am not convinced for guys under 40 in a group ,on vacation,etc, that its not the same fun as hanging in groups in a club, listening to music, drinking, etc. Again, thats only my opinion and I respect yours.The main fact that it closes earlier but the places are still jumping early during the week makes us says " yes we want to go. " Thanks for addressing the girl issue, this is no longer a concern of ours. I will report in the near future on the Sue when we go and looking forward to a fall trip.
SavePros321
08-25-16, 11:13
Just passing this along for those who are interested:
http://www.ticotimes.net/2016/08/24/cuba-dave-trial-costa-ricaHopefully everything works out for him. He was just what some would consider a "loud mouth", but it was just his way of spreading the mongering gospel, LOL.
IMHO Sosua is changing. I returned 3 weeks ago.
Its no longer point and click P4P and if some people feel it is then its hardcore P4P.
The strip has been reduced to a 200 foot area which has about 6 bars where the girls hang out plus the cops are getting more aggressive.
Its almost exactly what Castro did 14 years ago when police began arresting the working girls on the street which then forced them into the high end discos where prices increased dramatically.
The demographics are also changing as many of the old school Canadians and Germans are leaving. Its now mostly African Americans.
IMHO Sosua is changing. I returned 3 weeks ago.
Its no longer point and click P4P and if some people feel it is then its hardcore P4P.
Can you give examples of what you mean so me and others could get a better understanding of your POV. Exactly what is point and click to you? And examples of Hardcore p4 p?
My understanding of what point and click means, is that a guy approaches a chica he's interested in, makes an offer for her to go with him, and she goes. So if that is point and click to you as well, why do you say it's no longer the case? Or please clarify what P & C means to you? I think whether it's hardcore, girl friend experience or sport fucking arrangements, it's still point and click. As long as a guy has money and is willing to pay, in most cases a chica is not going to say no. And I still see chicas going with guys that anyone would say are not appealing. Fat, ugly, poor grooming, aged etc. Something else should be taken into consideration. Chicas themselves can have standards or concerns too in terms of who they want to fuck. Just because a guy has money and the chica needs money, that doesnt mean he gets to fuck any chica because of that. A chicas standards and interests of who she chooses to fuck, can be just as varied as us mongers. For instance, Ive observed chicas that were seen mostly with white guys or mostly with black guys. Others who behaved differently depending on the age of the guy. Not to mention, how chemistry and compatibility can play a role in each others company.
As far as hardcore is concerned, I do believe a lot of chicas are more hardcore (assuming it includes but not limited to: being all about business, no GFE, watching the clock, rushing to get back to the street club / bar, more apt to steal, non personable and indifferent towards their clients, loud and aggressive, smoking, drinking bottles of beer in public, on patrol walking around looking for clients). If that describes some of what you see, then I would have to agree. There is a significant increase in that type of behavior.
Many of the nicer chicas that offered GFE, unrushed service over the years got snatched up by gringos that decided they wanted to take them off the street. Western Unionized them with regular payments so the chicas could support their families could stay put in their city. Then when the guy comes to the DR, he goes straight to her city for his vacation, instead of meeting her in Sosua. Or those chicas moved on to other p4 p endeavors in other cities or countries. Still we see more chicas driving cars, indicative of some grngo buying the car, and supporting them. But yet still feel the need to hustle in Sosua. Or perhaps they burned their bridge or totally fleeced their former benefactor?
What we have left in places like Sosua are mutants. They look like females, sort of act like females, can dress sexy enough to appear female. But for some reason there is something missing. They are another generation of individuals with zero to very little home training. And definitely many lacking education, and social skills. More and more of these chicas have chulos lurking around in Sosua, not just back in their cities. The chica network is strong. Many chicas can be seen teaming up with other chicas. And now are demanding and expecting more from potential clients. To an extend it kinda makes sense. Can we expect ST to stay at 1500 pesos and TLN to stay at 2500 to 3000 forever?
We got to know, that most of the male hustlers are in on it too. We got to know that these muggs are telling these chicas to get more out of us? For example, I think Lionel the Rosetta Stone guy is a double agent. He acts like a friend to guys that don't know any better or just don't care if hes telling chicas about everything we say and do. IMO, it's hustlers and individuals like that, as well as loose lipped mongers telling hustlers everything, and "I don't give a fuck how much I'm paying, I'm on vacation, it's my fucking money" mongers, these are the ones greatly contributing to what we have today. BTW I don't think the guys at the German restaurant, feeding those chicas (mostly Haitianas) free meals and beverages every day , are helping the situation.
So that's mostly what guys have to deal with from now on. Sprinkled about there may be some gems among the muck. And after a while in the game, they too may be corrupted by the rest of the barracudas. Like an inmate in jail, or a rooky cop among vets. In order to fit in, they follow what others are doing. Still even under the current conditions, some individuals are able to adapt and manage a decent mongering lifestyle while fishing in infested waters. Expats are afforded more time to explore the "waters" as well as seek out other options nearby. Smart and / or dilligent vacationers can do likewise. However enough guys are not willing to go through all of that. They want the convenience, and quality ( relatively speaking ) back to the way they remembered it. If they can't have it, they become disenchanted and have to call it quits.
Personally, I want to see how things evolve after awhile. Is it possible that the changes to come may lead to a change in chica behavior for the better? Or will it get increasingly worse? How about the mongers we have coming on the regular? Will more interest in GFE or quality rather than quantity hookups come back?
K Constant
08-27-16, 18:16
IMHO Sosua is changing. I returned 3 weeks ago.
Its no longer point and click P4P and if some people feel it is then its hardcore P4P.
The strip has been reduced to a 200 foot area which has about 6 bars where the girls hang out plus the cops are getting more aggressive.
Its almost exactly what Castro did 14 years ago when police began arresting the working girls on the street which then forced them into the high end discos where prices increased dramatically.
The demographics are also changing as many of the old school Canadians and Germans are leaving. Its now mostly African Americans.You may be right; however, it is the low season. I visited Sosua two weeks ago. It was more subdued than I remember from my trip in December of last year. Is it due to the crackdown or is it due to seasonal nature of tourism?
I've read many different opinions about the demise of Sosua. I'm a point and click monger, who prefers to pay low prices, and I don't believe in attaching strings to hookers, and yet I still shy away from women with hardcore traits. I've only been visiting Sosua since 2013, and it had a high percentage of prossies with hardcore traits even then, that's not new. The prices haven't risen. Many of my dates asked for higher prices, I paid them the same as always. The point and click aspect is the same as always. I flew into POP, checked into my hotel, went out on Pedro Clisante, and brought a girl back to my room. This wouldn't have been so easy in Rio or Medellin, but it's comparable to Pattaya Beach.
Earlier through whatsapp I tried to negotiate a price with a Chica. She asked for 3000 pesos and I countered with 1500 pesos. After a minute or so she called me a mamaguevo. I don't understand?
You may be right; however, it is the low season. I visited Sosua two weeks ago. It was more subdued than I remember from my trip in December of last year. Is it due to the crackdown or is it due to seasonal nature of tourism?
I've read many different opinions about the demise of Sosua. I'm a point and click monger, who prefers to pay low prices, and I don't believe in attaching strings to hookers, and yet I still shy away from women with hardcore traits. I've only been visiting Sosua since 2013, and it had a high percentage of prossies with hardcore traits even then, that's not new. The prices haven't risen. Many of my dates asked for higher prices, I paid them the same as always. The point and click aspect is the same as always. I flew into POP, checked into my hotel, went out on Pedro Clisante, and brought a girl back to my room. This wouldn't have been so easy in Rio or Medellin, but it's comparable to Pattaya Beach.That's what I see too. August is their slow season.
For me the value of a mongering destination is tied to the numbers of chicas available. Give me enough chicas, and no legal proscription against mongers, and I'll be happy to spend a few days navigating the scene and keeping an eye out for the newer and fresher chicas. Pattaya sounds good to me too, but too far away!
Numbers ensure some incentive and competion for your dollars.
As long as folks are reporting numbers like 12 to 1 in places like Classico, I'll take those odds, anytime. They say there are 35 new uniformed servers at the new City Lights!
To me Sosua will only be over only if they ever manage to chase out most of the putas.
Nobody wants to have to work too hard for P4 P, and we don't all be wanting to chase the same 5 putas :)
Parkinsons
08-28-16, 19:05
Earlier through whatsapp I tried to negotiate a price with a Chica. She asked for 3000 pesos and I countered with 1500 pesos. After a minute or so she called me a mamaguevo. I don't understand?That's a term of endearment. She's calling you a big boss gran jefe. She wants you all night.
On a separate note, my friend Maurice said some chicas have been calling him "Maury Cone" but he's puzzled because his last name isn't Cone.
Earlier through whatsapp I tried to negotiate a price with a Chica. She asked for 3000 pesos and I countered with 1500 pesos. After a minute or so she called me a mamaguevo. I don't understand?
That's a term of endearment. She's calling you a big boss gran jefe. She wants you all night..Are you sure about this? If you do a search you find things like this: "Mamahuevo, spanish for cocksucker, used in Dominican Republic". Sounds more like an insult.
Tempoecorto
08-28-16, 19:40
That's a term of endearment. She's calling you a big boss gran jefe. She wants you all night.
On a separate note, my friend Maurice said some chicas have been calling him "Maury Cone" but he's puzzled because his last name isn't Cone.You are killing me! You are as funny as Boricua, always understandably English! By the way, I love "maury cone" - a term of endearment derived from Maricon!
To others, yes "mama" (suck) and "guebo" (dick) does refer to probably not something very polite but as Parkinsons notes, you never know with women, it could have been a term of endearment, jajaja!
I've been called that by this pair of mafioso hags that operate in the late hours on Calle Dr. Rosen (where Terra Linda and NG are located) who prey on solitary mongers returning to their rooms.
They will approach you, and by all accounts, distract you by grabbing hold of your family jewels and tag team a heist of your valuables.
The only time they tried to pull that on me, I forcefully knocked their arms away and secured my getaway only to be met with a shout out to Mr. Cone!
This shit gets hilarious sometimes!
That's a term of endearment. She's calling you a big boss gran jefe. She wants you all night.
On a separate note, my friend Maurice said some chicas have been calling him "Maury Cone" but he's puzzled because his last name isn't Cone.
On a separate note, my friend Maurice said some chicas have been calling him "Maury Cone" but he's puzzled because his last name isn't Cone.Parkinson es loco. Jajajajaja.
Mamar = to suck; mamahuevo = ball sucker. The verb 'mamar' is used for nursing at the tit, so as opposed to 'chupar' which also means to suck, it nicely infantilizes the recipient of the insult. I like it.
Mamar = to suck; mamahuevo = ball sucker. The verb 'mamar' is used for nursing at the tit, so as opposed to 'chupar' which also means to suck, it nicely infantilizes the recipient of the insult. I like it.In Dominican and Puerto Rican slang "guebo" means the male genitals and is derived from "huevo" (egg). This expression can safely be translated as "cocksucker".
Thanks Gentleman for the response and translation. Who knew she felt that insulted.
Manizales911
08-29-16, 04:22
I've been called that by this pair of mafioso hags that operate in the late hours on Calle Dr. Rosen (where Terra Linda and NG are located) who prey on solitary mongers returning to their rooms.
They will approach you, and by all accounts, distract you by grabbing hold of your family jewels and tag team a heist of your valuables.
The only time they tried to pull that on me, I forcefully knocked their arms away and secured my getaway only to be met with a shout out to Mr. Cone!
This shit gets hilarious sometimes!I reported on these two bitches a while ago, they came after me and my wingman. The ***** that ran up on me had her hand on my brand new Iphone in my pocket before I could step away from her, I slapped her on the forearm and she backed off proclaiming that she wasn't a thief, hahaha. As soon as I realized what was going on I yelled out to my wing who is elderly and was walking behind me and he pushed his ***** away from him and she took off.
That's a term of endearment. She's calling you a big boss gran jefe. She wants you all night.
On a separate note, my friend Maurice said some chicas have been calling him "Maury Cone" but he's puzzled because his last name isn't Cone.Parkinsons is right. In the morning, if the sex was great, she might even call you guebon / huevon, which means you don't have to pay for anything.
My question is, what is the correct way to write guebo? As we know the Dominican way isn't necessarily the correct way to write Spanish. Is it guebo with or without umlaut (those two dots above u)? If there is English word for umlaut, please educate me.
Parkinsons is right. In the morning, if the sex was great, she might even call you guebon / huevon, which means you don't have to pay for anything.
My question is, what is the correct way to write guebo? As we know the Dominican way isn't necessarily the correct way to write Spanish. Is it guebo with or without umlaut (those two dots above u)? If there is English word for umlaut, please educate me.Does Spanish even use the umlaut? In any case it is just pronounced the usual Dominican way and the vowel sound rhymes with "huevo" so there is no need for an umlaut.
Charles Pooter
08-29-16, 14:31
Does Spanish even use the umlaut? In any case it is just pronounced the usual Dominican way and the vowel sound rhymes with "huevo" so there is no need for an umlaut.Spanish uses the two-dot symbol to modify the sound of a consonant. For example, in "guerra" (war) the "you" makes the "g" voiced and hard before an "e", otherwise it would be sounded as an "h" , as in "gente". But in words like "guachiman" (Dominican slang for nightwatchman) there are two dots above the "you" to change "gu" to a "gw" sound.
(The irritating spelling-correction software here will not allow me to actually print the two-dot symbol, even using ASCII code, and changes the single letter to "you".)
If there is English word for umlaut, please educate me.
There is not, because when English uses one vowel to modify the sound of another, it prints both. German used to until relatively recently, when it adopted the use of umlauts to show a modified vowel instead of printing the second vowel.
When typing German on a keyboard without the umlaut letters, you should restore the second vowel.
Confusingly, the printers name for the two-dot symbol is "diaeresis", but real diaereses have exactly the opposite effect. They force vowels which we would normally combine to be sounded separately in an additional syllable. For example "Noel", if it has two dots above the "e", is pronounced as two syllables.
Testing to see if the umlaut works when I type güero. It does. The letter 'g' has the most complicated pronunciation rules of any single letter in Spanish. I believe it is the only one that requires analyzing both the following letter and the preceding letter. Another common words that uses the umlaut is 'bilingüe. '.
Charles Pooter
08-29-16, 17:47
Testing to see if the umlaut works when I type gero.Look, the letter with umlaut disappears even when I just copy and paste! I am too old to grapple with the mysteries of cyberspace.
Yep, and the diacritic marks all go away if you try to edit your post. I have my computer set up for English, Spanish, and Italian keyboards, so that's why it works for me on initial posting. But if you ever want to edit your post, you have to replace all the diacritic marks. At I just put an ampersand in front of this sentence using ASCII codes. Let's see if that works.
It changed the ampersand to the word 'at' but I think that is a separate issue from ASCII. Let's put in some more ASCII and see what happens.
ñ ¿ î
Should be an 'n' with a tilde, an upside down question mark, and an 'i' with a circonflex.
So ASCII seems to work, at least on initial posting.
Parkinsons
08-29-16, 20:43
For example "Noel", if it has two dots above the "e", is pronounced as two syllables.Good post, thanks for the lesson.
Regarding Noel, any reason why Sir Coward is often spelt with the two dots but Gallagher of Oasis never? Is that just a personal preference, as far as I know they're both pronounced the same way, Noel as in "towel" and not as in "Papa Noel".
Sir Coward's name has the dots and so is pronounced NO-well, stressing the first syllable, whereas the Spanish phrase Papá No-WELL has the stress on the last syllable as follows from the Spanish pronunciation rule: stress the end syllable unless the word ends in a vowel, 'e' or 's.' English, being an inferior language, has no such helpful rules. You can tell from any Spanish word how it's pronounced, assuming all the diacritic marks are used correctly; the marks are there to override the general rule, or sometimes to distinguish two identically spelled and pronounced words that have different meanings ('se' and 'sé,' or 'de' and 'dé,' for example). Unfortunately the same is not true for English or Italian. You see an Italian word like 'sinistra' and you don't know whether it is sin-EES-tra or SIN-ees-tra, as you would know in Spanish.
http://www.puertoplatadigital.com/verNoticia.aspx?Id=22504
I wanted to share an interesting phonomenon I have discovered in Germany. There are a large number of Dominican women working in the brothels there.
I travel to Germany alot and always visit the brothels (not FKK's but rather houses where each girl has a room). These brothels are at least 80% Dominicanas. Most of them live in Spain but ocassionally they will live in Germany. They never stay in one brothel but rather travel around Germany from one brothel to the next and then go back to where there home is which is, most of the time, Barcelona or Madrid. Up until my last visit, these women are not hardened pros. They tend to really open up to you when you speak Spanish to them and talk about SD, Sosua etc. Then once they start talking about their kids they really start to feel comfortable with you. The service has been top notch compared to anything I have ever received in the DR. German men, who are the majority of their clients, are known for not being kind to these women. Not abusive in that sense but they really look at them as w**ores. This is what I have been told by the ladies over and over again. They are never clock watchers and will give you an hour for 50 Euros (even though it is supposed to be 15 minutes for 50 Euros). I have even had one of them invite me back to the brothel and had me eat lunch in her room with her.
The last Dominicana I met was the rare exception. She was a hardened pro though she was very cute. But then she told me she was from Santiago and I figured she had probably worked in the past in Sosua given its proximity to Santiago. She was a clock watcher and was was a wham bam and get out.
This was the first time I had experienced this with any of the Dominicanas here.
I have attached a photo of her. She was not a bad person. Just reminded me a little of the Sosua women I have encountered in the past. If you check out websites like http://www.augsburg-models.com/present/meins, 24391,10286933 you will always see a Dominicana though they always list on the website that they are from Brazil for some reason.
Showdown.
you will always see a Dominicana though they always list on the website that they are from Brazil for some reason.Gee, I just can't imagine why they would do that. Maybe, just maybe, it's because Brazilian women have a well-deserved reputation for being great in bed and dominicanas have a well-deserved reputation for being clockwatchers and thieves? Or perhaps it is because as soon as you start to fuck a dominicana she starts to say 'Terminastes? Terminastes? Ya terminastes?'
But then again, it could simply be that their Spanish is so fucking bad they don't think anyone would believe it was their native language. BTW nationalities are not capitalized in Spanish so it is dominicana and not Dominicana.
Gee, I just can't imagine why they would do that. Maybe, just maybe, it's because Brazilian women have a well-deserved reputation for being great in bed and dominicanas have a well-deserved reputation for being clockwatchers and thieves? Or perhaps it is because as soon as you start to fuck a dominicana she starts to say 'Terminastes? Terminastes? Ya terminastes?'
But then again, it could simply be that their Spanish is so fucking bad they don't think anyone would believe it was their native language. BTW nationalities are not capitalized in Spanish so it is dominicana and not Dominicana.Wow! Really?
Pray tell us your screen name again? What was that?
Hello Gentlemen,
I would like to thank you all for your insight and wisdom on this board. My cousin and I lived out stay in Sosua except for the final night. I didn't fully understand how corrupt the people could be until the final evening.
The night we before our departure my cousin and I went out and ended up in the casino after Clasico closed. We were both approached by Chicas. I saw one chica earlier that caught my eye that I wanted. My cousin told me to leave her alone because to him she looked like "garbage". What he really meant was that she had no ass and was flat chested (whatever). I didn't heed his warning.
He took his chica to the room and I on the other hand went to grab a quick bite from the food cart. After downing the meal my chica and I left for the room. When I get to my hotel the chica goes straight to the seguridad and they speak briefly. Then I go into the office to check her in. The office manager tell me something strange. He says that she cannot stay the evening. That was never in my plan so I said ok.
Earlier we agreed upon a set price of 1500 only after I walked away from her initial request of 3000 pesos. As we make our way into the room my cousin stops in mid act along with his Chica. My cousins chica looks uneasy. So once my date goes in the bathroom my cousin chica proceeds to tell me to hid all my belongs and stuff her purse in our safe. I chuckled a bit and complied. My chica comes out and we proceed to CBJ but she wouldn't lick the jewels. During our mesh session she complained about hurting (only when she felt an orgasm coming).
After the mesh I gave her the agreed upon amount. She then flips and says it was 2500 pesos. We argue and she walked away with 2 k. As I walked her to the gate she slips the guard some money. Then she jumps on the Moto and rides off. I gave the security guard a look that said, " If this was the states I would fuck you up". The guard turned away from my steely glare. I walked away knowing I was taken for a ride.
Hello Gentlemen,
I would like to thank you all for your insight and wisdom on this board. My cousin and I lived out stay in Sosua except for the final night. I didn't fully understand how corrupt the people could be until the final evening.
The night we before our departure my cousin and I went out and ended up in the casino after Clasico closed. We were both approached by Chicas. I saw one chica earlier that caught my eye that I wanted. My cousin told me to leave her alone because to him she looked like "garbage". What he really meant was that she had no ass and was flat chested (whatever). I didn't heed his warning.
He took his chica to the room and I on the other hand went to grab a quick bite from the food cart. After downing the meal my chica and I left for the room. When I get to my hotel the chica goes straight to the seguridad and they speak briefly. Then I go into the office to check her in. The office manager tell me something strange. He says that she cannot stay the evening. That was never in my plan so I said ok.
Earlier we agreed upon a set price of 1500 only after I walked away from her initial request of 3000 pesos. As we make our way into the room my cousin stops in mid act along with his Chica. My cousins chica looks uneasy. So once my date goes in the bathroom my cousin chica proceeds to tell me to hid all my belongs and stuff her purse in our safe. I chuckled a bit and complied. My chica comes out and we proceed to CBJ but she wouldn't lick the jewels. During our mesh session she complained about hurting (only when she felt an orgasm coming).
After the mesh I gave her the agreed upon amount. She then flips and says it was 2500 pesos. We argue and she walked away with 2 k. As I walked her to the gate she slips the guard some money. Then she jumps on the Moto and rides off. I gave the security guard a look that said, " If this was the states I would fuck you up". The guard turned away from my steely glare. I walked away knowing I was taken for a ride.Thanks for sharing. Casual visitors need to be aware of this stuff.
Point and click mongering with a stranger is a roll of the dice.
At least your cousin's chica put you wise to the "mafiosa", so obviously they are not all the same!
Hello Gentlemen,
I would like to thank you all for your insight and wisdom on this board.
After the mesh I gave her the agreed upon amount. She then flips and says it was 2500 pesos. We argue and she walked away with 2 k. As I walked her to the gate she slips the guard some money. Then she jumps on the Moto and rides off. I gave the security guard a look that said, " If this was the states I would fuck you up". The guard turned away from my steely glare. I walked away knowing I was taken for a ride.I'm lost why are you upset with the guard did he help you pick your chica. Management had respected you in allowing obviously a troubled girl to accompany you. You never thought to question them why she couldn't stay all night. No you were thinking with your dick. We all do sometimes when we have zeroed in on our kills. She obviously was out of normal grace with that hotel and security. Security didn't convince you to give in to her payment. You didn't go to them complaining about her. When chicas are not in good grace they often tip security because he's the first line of defense in getting back in good grace. You got upset when you saw what she did with the money you gave her freely. I know sometimes - well a lot of times we don't want any problems over 12 bucks. However you must understand that when a chica flips the price on you she is trying you. Somewhere in her understanding of the business she in she thought you were weak and can be played. Since you gave in she was correct and you only reinforced her behavior. She made you pay for the tip for the security guard. What do you think he is going to do the next time he sees her. Now had you a problem with her and complain to him and he did nothing to help correct the problem I can understand your hostilities. Good thing she didn't steal anything and the learning experience only cost you five hundred pesos. I don't think you were really upset about the money after all you did take her to get something to eat and drink. I wouldn't have even walked her to pick up her ID had she flipped on me . Next time I know you will be prepared four chicas like her.
Hello Gentlemen,
I would like to thank you all for your insight and wisdom on this board. My cousin and I lived out stay in Sosua except for the final night. I didn't fully understand how corrupt the people could be until the final evening.
The night we before our departure my cousin and I went out and ended up in the casino after Clasico closed. We were both approached by Chicas. I saw one chica earlier that caught my eye that I wanted. My cousin told me to leave her alone because to him she looked like "garbage". What he really meant was that she had no ass and was flat chested (whatever). I didn't heed his warning.
He took his chica to the room and I on the other hand went to grab a quick bite from the food cart. After downing the meal my chica and I left for the room. When I get to my hotel the chica goes straight to the seguridad and they speak briefly. Then I go into the office to check her in. The office manager tell me something strange. He says that she cannot stay the evening. That was never in my plan so I said ok.
Earlier we agreed upon a set price of 1500 only after I walked away from her initial request of 3000 pesos. As we make our way into the room my cousin stops in mid act along with his Chica. My cousins chica looks uneasy. So once my date goes in the bathroom my cousin chica proceeds to tell me to hid all my belongs and stuff her purse in our safe. I chuckled a bit and complied. My chica comes out and we proceed to CBJ but she wouldn't lick the jewels. During our mesh session she complained about hurting (only when she felt an orgasm coming).
After the mesh I gave her the agreed upon amount. She then flips and says it was 2500 pesos. We argue and she walked away with 2 k. As I walked her to the gate she slips the guard some money. Then she jumps on the Moto and rides off. I gave the security guard a look that said, " If this was the states I would fuck you up". The guard turned away from my steely glare. I walked away knowing I was taken for a ride.No tits, no ass, hurt when you had sex, and they didn't want her in the hotel overnight? Did you see her cedula and verify that it was in fact hers and the date of birth. You might want to report your suspicions to the embassy of your country.
SavePros321
09-02-16, 11:49
Or perhaps it is because as soon as you start to fuck a dominicana she starts to say 'Terminastes? Terminastes? Ya terminastes?'
I've only heard them say "Leche Papi..leche". Translates to the same thing though ("hurry up and cum so I can get back on the street and make some more pesos".
"Leche Papi..leche". The single reason why the DR is among the lowest in my mongering destination choices.
. Somewhere in her understanding of the business she in she thought you were weak and can be played. Since you gave in she was correct and you only reinforced her behavior. She made you pay for the tip for the security guard. What do you think he is going to do the next time he sees her. Now had you a problem with her and complain to him and he did nothing to help correct the problem I can understand your hostilities. Good thing she didn't steal anything and the learning experience only cost you five hundred pesos. I don't think you were really upset about the money after all you did take her to get something to eat and drink. I wouldn't have even walked her to pick up her ID had she flipped on me . Next time I know you will be prepared four chicas like her.I wouldn't jump all over a newbie monger, who shares a bad trip with us. His post was about how he learned his lesson. We all coulda, shoulda, woulda.
Hotels don't all allow putas to come and go to your room unescorted, so just kicking her outside your room and locking the door, is generally not an option. It's also not polite to the other hotel guests, if she starts screaming and banging on the door. (Vets have heard that before). LOL
A couple things. Once they flip, you have to swallow your ego and man up that YOU have made an error in judgement. Once you can deal with that blow to your ego, LOL, the idea is to solve the problem in the most beneficial way for you. You are on vacation, so what is a few bucks to make the problem go away?
The alternative, confrontation, possible escalation to soap opera drama, involving security, hotel management and even the cops, in the middle of the night, over a couple dollars is not recommended, especially if alcohol (or even drugs) is involved, but it's your choice. If you care if some dysfunctional puta thinks you are "weak", you have a problem with ego, insecurity, self esteem, whatever. I would be pissed only if the sex session was not worth it!
I'd rather a puta hi five me on the street after leaching $10 the night before, than having her and her friends looking for my ass.
What works for me.
I come from Europe. Hotels, restaurants and bars, were originally public houses hosted by families that cared for the enjoyment and safety of their guests.
I still cultivate that concept and relationship, by spending my money in the same bars, hotels, and restaurants (its a small town) developing a familiar and familia relationship. Once they know you are not an asshole, they'll take your side in any little problem you might have. They'll throw a trouble maker out. If they throw YOU out, you know who the asshole is. LOL.
Remember, the guys that have the most trouble in Sosua are those that believe the locals are all skanks, thieves and criminals, and paint them all with the same brush. Sosua is definitely NOT for them!
The single reason why the DR is among the lowest in my mongering destination choices.In the olden days, "Leche, papi, leche. " would have been considered a turn on, equivalent to today's, "Come for me, baby". Not generally heard from frigid wives. LOL.
I think this might help to understand why a lot of new hotel and real estate construction is taking place in Sosua and why you see some old resorts built in the past abandoned. The new guys have gotten big tax breaks and have a lot of influence:
After the 70's, the tourism sector with its breakthrough (in 1980 the first hotel in the country Playa Dorada opens), promoted to major economic lines as industries, animal husbandry and agriculture were head seduced by the generous bonanzas of this.
Check the second half of the 90's, "South Florida" as they used to call Puerto Plata, entered an economic depression when other countries in the region were lifting flight in tourism, coinciding with the crisis of basic services in the city among which we can cite the lack of electricity (darkness reigned throughout the city), the rise in crime, and the many problems generating tourism groups such as transport (taxis) the National police and hustlers, prostitutes and Sanky entindase Pankis, and fraud linked to deterioration of hoteliers.
While it is true that all this was enough to make decayed the first tourist center in the country as it was then, "La Tacita de Plata", no less certain that the death blow came on 9th of October 2001, when Law 158-01 on tourist incentive, which came with the aim of promoting tourism development in the poles of low growth and new poles in provinces and localities of great potential was adopted.
To accomplish those purposes, that Act raised the tax exemption for all matters relating to the construction and renovation of tourism infrastructure, however, completely exclude Puerto Plata of these benefits.
This is summarized in that all that was built in the tourist order in Puerto Plata had the obligation to pay taxes instead, while the builders, for example in Bavaro and Punta Cana, were excluded from any payment; is hence the debacle of tourism and the great economic crisis has certain date.
Parkinsons
09-02-16, 16:51
Hello Gentlemen,
I the chica goes straight to the seguridad and they speak briefly. Then I go into the office to check her in. The office manager tell me something strange. He says that she cannot stay the evening. .
As I walked her to the gate she slips the guard some money. Then she jumps on the Moto and rides off. I gave the security guard a look that said, " If this was the states I would fuck you up". The guard turned away from my steely glare. I walked away knowing I was taken for a ride.Which hotel was this?
http://noticiaspop.com.do/alcaldesa-ilana-neumann-no-se-puede-seguir-promoviendo-sosua-destino-sexual/
I wouldn't jump all over a newbie monger, who shares a bad trip with us. His post was about how he learned his lesson. We all coulda, shoulda, woulda.
Hotels don't all allow putas to come and go to your room unescorted, so just kicking her outside your room and locking the door, is generally not an option. It's also not polite to the other hotel guests, if she starts screaming and banging on the door. (Vets have heard that before). LOL
A couple things. Once they flip, you have to swallow your ego and man up that YOU have made an error in judgement. Once you can deal with that blow to your ego, LOL, the idea is to solve the problem in the most beneficial way for you. You are on vacation, so what is a few bucks to make the problem go away?
The alternative, confrontation, possible escalation to soap opera drama, involving security, hotel management and even the cops, in the middle of the night, over a couple dollars is not recommended, especially if alcohol (or even drugs) is involved, but it's your choice. If you care if some dysfunctional puta thinks you are "weak", you have a problem with ego, insecurity, self esteem, whatever. I would be pissed only if the sex session was not worth it!
I'd rather a puta hi five me on the street after leaching $10 the night before, than having her and her friends looking for my ass.
What works for me.
!Come on Oakie pass the Blunt.
1.) Nobody's jumping on anybody I was trying to get clarity.
2.) Who said anything about someone being unescorted. Why did you go there?
3.) The situation has nothing to do with someone's ego. But I do stand when I [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140).
4.) Even though we learn from his situation. I don't think the post was about learning a lesson. He was upset about the situation and I didn't know why based on the information he gave us.
5.) This is not Europe. This is the Dominican of Republic. You cannot let people run over you over there. They won't stop. They have no compassion for the victim. It only reinforces them to do it to the next guy. The chica probably thought it was cool to run game on him because the last time she ran that con; she saw the guy the next day and he gave her a high-five and foot massages. They don't respect you Rodney Dangerfield. But hey it works for you.
6.) I agree with you one must first deal with the man in the mirror about the situation he's currently in. However I don't think it's someone "ego" when they stand up to someone trying to con them.
Mr Enternational
09-03-16, 02:22
A couple things. Once they flip, you have to swallow your ego and man up that YOU have made an error in judgement.
If you care if some dysfunctional puta thinks you are "weak", you have a problem with ego, insecurity, self esteem, whatever.One day mfs are saying you shouldn't be prejudice towards the poor little hookers and the next they are admonishing the monger for judging her incorrectly when it comes to him getting ripped off. It is definitely always the monger's fault when some dysfunctional hooker flips on him. When is it ever the fault of the dysfunctional hooker? I guess there will always be SIMPathizers and others who are wiser.
http://noticiaspop.com.do/alcaldesa-ilana-neumann-no-se-puede-seguir-promoviendo-sosua-destino-sexual/She is probably oblivious of what is happening in the neighbourhood: http://www.secretflying.com/2016/fort-lauderdale-to-many-cuban-cities-for-only-129-roundtrip/. I'll give a ballpark of $10 million a year of direct foreign 'investment' dropped in SOS. All related to pussy chasing. Families who do come to SOS now don't care about the scene. Families who choose other destinations do it for reasons other than this special character of the town.
Come on Oakie pass the Blunt.
1.) Nobody's jumping on anybody I was trying to get clarity.
2.) Who said anything about someone being unescorted. Why did you go there?
3.) The situation has nothing to do with someone's ego. But I do stand when I ......(codeword)
4.) Even though we learn from his situation. I don't think the post was about learning a lesson. He was upset about the situation and I didn't know why based on the information he gave us.
5.) This is not Europe. This is the Dominican of Republic. You cannot let people run over you over there. They won't stop. They have no compassion for the victim. It only reinforces them to do it to the next guy. The chica probably thought it was cool to run game on him because the last time she ran that con; she saw the guy the next day and he gave her a high-five and foot massages. They don't respect you Rodney Dangerfield. But hey it works for you.
6.) I agree with you one must first deal with the man in the mirror about the situation he's currently in. However I don't think it's someone "ego" when they stand up to someone trying to con them.Relax, there's more than one way to skin a cat.
We are talking third world putas here.
I'm only interested in fucking them, not getting down in the dirt trying to argue with them, or who said what, in broken Spanish. I'll leave that to you guys.
Not worth my time!
Anyone who invites a stranger (who maybe crazy) to their room should be prepared for varying mileage. And be able to write the odd glich off to experience without the drama.
I'm tired of seeing johns around my hotel with chica's they can't handle, getting everybody and anybody involved. Disturbs my peace!
But, some love the drama, I guess, and they say they do it for the benefit of the "next guy?
You need a mask and a cape,. Pal! .
Whatever!
By the way, is it you who gives "foot massages" to putas who rip you off? Where the hell did THAT come from?
One day mfs are saying you shouldn't be prejudice towards the poor little hookers and the next they are admonishing the monger for judging her incorrectly when it comes to him getting ripped off. It is definitely always the monger's fault when some dysfunctional hooker flips on him. When is it ever the fault of the dysfunctional hooker? I guess there will always be SIMPathizers and others who are wiser.Be careful patting a stray dog!
Not necessarily the same as hugging your pet! :)
In the olden days, "Leche, papi, leche. " would have been considered a turn on, equivalent to today's, "Come for me, baby". Not generally heard from frigid wives. LOL.LOL, "come for me, baby". I get that a lot here in the States and it does not turn me on one bit. It means basically the same, that they would like me to come already. However, paying $300 for the hour they're not going to be as obnoxious as the DR hookers.
http://www.sosuanews.mobi/index.php?id=4566
Mr Enternational
09-08-16, 20:45
http://www.sosuanews.mobi/index.php?id=4566"The mayor said that Sosúa has a lot to offer as a family resort. A beautiful beach, a paradise for diving," From this statement alone I have to question anything the mayor says. She is definitely not a diver because Sosua has to be one of the shittiest dive spots that I have ever been to.
K Constant
09-09-16, 02:01
Relax, there's more than one way to skin a cat.
We are talking third world putas here.
I'm only interested in fucking them, not getting down in the dirt trying to argue with them, or who said what, in broken Spanish. I'll leave that to you guys.
Not worth my time!
Anyone who invites a stranger (who maybe crazy) to their room should be prepared for varying mileage. And be able to write the odd glich off to experience without the drama.
Because so many Sosua chica play this little game, I always get fully dressed before it's time to pay. There's a very high chance that the girl will demand more money even if she's been otherwise great. At the first sign of trouble, I take an aggressive and hostile tone. No argument, just "no mas dinero" and "leave now". This works consistently.
"The mayor said that Sosa has a lot to offer as a family resort. A beautiful beach, a paradise for diving," From this statement alone I have to question anything the mayor says. She is definitely not a diver because Sosua has to be one of the shittiest dive spots that I have ever been to.No, it's not worth a damn as a dive spot. However, it's the mayor saying this, and part of her job is to fluff Sosua as a tourist destination.
She should probably mention the kite-surfing right next door in Cabarete as that is indeed world-class.
No, it's not worth a damn as a dive spot. However, it's the mayor saying this, and part of her job is to fluff Sosua as a tourist destination.
She should probably mention the kite-surfing right next door in Cabarete as that is indeed world-class.Scuba is fair to to below average, too bad, some what over fished and no pier, just boats brought up on the beach. I got turned off by too many hard core hookers and anti puta ways of the city. Final straw was when they would not let the putas hang out at NG pool area during the day. In the past more of friendly atmosphere with the putas at the hotels, now only take in. If Sosua mayor wants to turn it into a Cozumel, she must be smoking something.
Once you learn the ropes in Sosua the hard core girls become your buddies. They understand that you will not be seduced by them and only ask for the occasional presidente. They can be entertaining and informative. Truth be told if a hardcore girl wants to fuck you they can more then hold their own. In my experience the best sex is rarely with the finest looking chicas. On my next trip I may not visit Sosua but wife up with some of my long term amigas. Nothing concrete but sex with girls you know is often much better.
Aside from girls in Sosua I like eating at Baileys. Hanging with Bros and dancing in Classicos while buzzed.
My alternate plan is to go to SD and import 3 of my amigas wifing up. Going to the movies, malls and discos is fun but getting the occasional 18 year old pussy trumps much of what SD can offer. I am still weighing my options. I spend over 100 dollars a day on sex when in Sosua. When wifing up 2 pops a day is minimal. With Sosua current setup one day there may suffice.
Scuba is fair to to below average, too bad, some what over fished and no pier, just boats brought up on the beach. I got turned off by too many hard core hookers and anti puta ways of the city. Final straw was when they would not let the putas hang out at NG pool area during the day. In the past more of friendly atmosphere with the putas at the hotels, now only take in. If Sosua mayor wants to turn it into a Cozumel, she must be smoking something.
Because so many Sosua chica play this little game, I always get fully dressed before it's time to pay. There's a very high chance that the girl will demand more money even if she's been otherwise great. At the first sign of trouble, I take an aggressive and hostile tone. No argument, just "no mas dinero" and "leave now". This works consistently.Good advice! Hard to be macho or dominant buck nekid, or with your pants down around your ankles. LOL.
We should all remember the universal truth about messing with women. Whether, (1) wife, (2) GF, or (3) hooker, it's something we sometimes forget in the heat of the moment.
The exit strategy!
Without one, you could lose your (1) assets, (2) freedom or (3) your cool.
Some wise man here once said, "We don't pay to fuck them, we pay them to leave".
Words to monger by!
I believe these are his words LOL.
Some wise man here once said, "We don't pay to fuck them, we pay them to leave".
I believe these are his words LOL.Credit to Charlie!
Things are slow here, so we get a little repetitive sometimes. Like:
"10 things the putas don't need to know!"
1 Where're you from?
2 Is this your first time?
4 Where are you staying?
5 How long you here?
6 What airline did you come in on?
7 When do you leave?
8 What's your name?
.........
Eszpresszo
09-10-16, 00:40
Some wise man here once said, "We don't pay to fuck them, we pay them to leave".
Words to monger by!Who was it that said "If it flies, floats or fucks, then don't own it. Rent it!
Who was it that said "If it flies, floats or fucks, then don't own it. Rent it!For a frequent renter, sometimes leasing can be a decent option?
Mr Enternational
09-10-16, 14:58
For a frequent renter, sometimes leasing can be a decent option?No. Because the whole idea behind the saying is to avoid maintenance charges, which can be a killer for planes, boats and women.
No. Because the whole idea behind the saying is to avoid maintenance charges, which can be a killer for planes, boats and women.I sad "sometimes".
Like sometimes renting everything by the day can be a budget and time killer too.
Trick is to be flexible and smart!
Eszpresszo
09-10-16, 22:29
I sad "sometimes".
Like sometimes renting everything by the day can be a budget and time killer too.
Trick is to be flexible and smart!But, when you marry it. You do own it and I think that's what the expression refers to. And it becomes the most expensive pussy there is. You have to house it, cloth it, feed it, listen to its pathetic mewing, and otherwise constantly attend to it. Plus you must constantly buy it lots of costly shit, that immediately assumes a resale price of what you could find it for in a garage sale. I can tell you from personal experience. And yes the ex had an awesome velvet cooze from the rear entry aspect. But, it came with a premium and a brutal early cancellation fee known as "monthly child support".
So, how could we "lease" it? I know in some Muslim nations, you can get a "contract marriage" that is good for a specific period of time. It is controversial in the Muslim world as a means of legitimizing prostitution. In any case, I'd never walk off that cliff.
We are dealing with real people. We all need to not just think of ourselves but also think about others. Most of us get to go home and have a nice life while we leave the others here.
But, when you marry it. You do own it and I think that's what the expression refers to. And it becomes the most expensive pussy there is. You have to house it, cloth it, feed it, listen to its pathetic mewing, and otherwise constantly attend to it. Plus you must constantly buy it lots of costly shit, that immediately assumes a resale price of what you could find it for in a garage sale. I can tell you from personal experience. And yes the ex had an awesome velvet cooze from the rear entry aspect. But, it came with a premium and a brutal early cancellation fee known as "monthly child support".
So, how could we "lease" it? I know in some Muslim nations, you can get a "contract marriage" that is good for a specific period of time. It is controversial in the Muslim world as a means of legitimizing prostitution. In any case, I'd never walk off that cliff.We are talking allegories here, so don't take everything so literally.
I both "rent", (point and click monger), and I "lease" (bring in a regular for the whole week) depending on my mood, and whether or not I'm travelling alone, or with a buddy.
It's perfect for me! Economical and guaranteed satisfaction, always a great vacation, because it involves local family and friends, parties and picnics, not just mechanical fucking!
I'll be posting my latest report soon. May be more renting than leasing this time, but I play it by ear!
(Before y'all run off with the usual strawmen, be advised I do NOT pay for pussy, unless I am down there actually on it!)
Eszpresszo
09-11-16, 13:49
(Before y'all run off with the usual strawmen, be advised I do NOT pay for pussy, unless I am down there actually on it!)Understood, friend.
Tempoecorto
09-11-16, 17:42
But, when you marry it. You do own it and I think that's what the expression refers to. And it becomes the most expensive pussy there is. You have to house it, cloth it, feed it, listen to its pathetic mewing, and otherwise constantly attend to it. That I know of, most universities in the US have about 50% enrollment numbers for women; If it were not for the enforcement of equality, it could very well be 70% for women. Most women have jobs unlike in the last century and if there is any money paid, after the "separation", it is usually for the children that presumably the males contributed to conceiving. Indeed in a certain section of a number of societies, it is the women who are the breadwinners, while the males are ogling women passing by, as they have liquid or gaseous nourishment. A man feeding, housing, clothing pussy is so last century and untrue today, barring a few notable exceptions!
SavePros321
09-12-16, 03:15
Most women have jobs unlike in the last century and if there is any money paid, after the "separation", it is usually for the children that presumably the males contributed to conceiving.Or could just be that she is a down-right money-hungry bytch. Johnny Depp would like to talk to you to find these "children" he supposedly has that warranted paying his ex $7MM after only being together 18 months, lmao!
http://www.tmz.com/2016/08/16/amber-heard-johnny-depp-settlement-domestic-violence-divorce/
If it fucks, floats, or flies, then it's cheaper to rent it.
Tempoecorto
09-12-16, 17:44
Or could just be that she is a down-right money-hungry bytch. Johnny Depp would like to talk to you to find these "children" he supposedly has that warranted paying his ex $7MM after only being together 18 months, lmao!..Fallacious! It is like stating "given that Marie Antoinette eats cakes, so does the rest of the world"! The word "outlier" in statistics has been coined to explain such oddities. I and most do not move in those rarefied circles (I also would not dream of reading trash like The Sun or similar sites), and so it is not German. In any case, to rent or not is not a bone of contention here. I just would not buy the argument that men are feeding, clothing women; Indeed if anything, in certain sections of our society and in other countries, in the context of this forum, it is the other way around.
http://www.sosuanews.mobi/index.php?id=4570
SavePros321
09-13-16, 04:03
http://www.sosuanews.mobi/index.php?id=4570What that Rick (the guy with the American Flag Bandana)? If so, I remember him from that restaurant Mora Mai near the beach where he used to cook. When you ordered your food he would always come out and ask you how you wanted it prepared. Some of the best wings I've ever had in Sosua were at that place.
What that Rick (the guy with the American Flag Bandana)? If so, I remember him from that restaurant Mora Mai near the beach where he used to cook. When you ordered your food he would always come out and ask you how you wanted it prepared. Some of the best wings I've ever had in Sosua were at that place.Rick is the brother of the owner of Mora Mai, he had been working at Rumba before it was closed.
What that Rick (the guy with the American Flag Bandana)? If so, I remember him from that restaurant Mora Mai near the beach where he used to cook. When you ordered your food he would always come out and ask you how you wanted it prepared. Some of the best wings I've ever had in Sosua were at that place.Yep that's Rick and that's Rueben standing next to him. Rick is also the brother of Rafael whose lovely wife Alexandra owns Mauri Mauri. They are big time in Sosua and own several properties throughout. Always friendly with great food and ambiance.
What that Rick (the guy with the American Flag Bandana)? If so, I remember him from that restaurant Mora Mai near the beach where he used to cook. When you ordered your food he would always come out and ask you how you wanted it prepared. Some of the best wings I've ever had in Sosua were at that place.Is the big man next to him the bouncer from rumbas?
Mr Enternational
09-13-16, 05:44
Is the big man next to him the bouncer from rumbas?Yeah. That is Tomjackin's main man Juan.
ProfessorOak
09-14-16, 05:07
Was looking to plan a quick trip to Sousa but come to find out my last hotel has been taken over by Asian hackers? Look at the website. Trippy stuff. Saw they were sill taking reservations by Expedia, can any one verify?
He cooked an Indian dish for me one time. His initiative made Rumba the attractive sport bar it became. Fascinating to talk to.
What that Rick (the guy with the American Flag Bandana)? If so, I remember him from that restaurant Mora Mai near the beach where he used to cook. When you ordered your food he would always come out and ask you how you wanted it prepared. Some of the best wings I've ever had in Sosua were at that place.
Manizales911
09-16-16, 19:15
Rick is the brother of the owner of Mora Mai, he had been working at Rumba before it was closed.Rumba's kitchen is being totally renovated and will reopen "soon" as a restaurant with Rick back in charge.
ReadyToGetOnIt
09-16-16, 23:14
I've been reading this forum for years, and noticed that for the past few weeks, things are rather dead here.
I got back last night after 6 days in the mix. Here are some warnings about this post. There will be no efforts to ponder, pontificate, or philosophize what's going on in Sosua. I don't have any connections to the mayor, the police chief, or the kids who want to shine my sneakers. I won't be discussing the meaning of life or the political climate. There will be no analysis of the Spanish language or the Dominican dialect. I'm going to give it to you straight with no filter. This shit is eye witness news, not lie witness news, so take this for what it is. Cool? Run it.
Friday Night / Saturday night. Street packed. Classico's packed. Merengue Bar packed with all the chicas that didn't want to pay the admission. This is normal.
Club X. GONE.
Winners Circle. GONE.
Bourbon Street is the center of the universe for now. Packs of 4-6 chicas taking up tables and ordering a plate of fries to share so they can stay. A few roam in and try to catch your eye so that they can sit down with you. Chicas that you will have seen in the past will try to latch on to you and linger so they can stay in the restaurant and not be on the street.
Chez Mon Real renovation is finished and they are open. Lots of chicas hanging out here on the outside tables. A few chicas on the inside, but they too are ordering plates of fries to stay.
Dlatin still closed, and there were no signs of construction during the days I was there. They have taken down the high front wall and replaced it. Pic below.
Rumba is still closed, and there was no sign of activity during the day. Snapped a pic with chicken man chatting with a dude out front. Note that they moved the staircase for the upstairs part. It used to face the street, now it faces inside the restaurant.
People kept saying that the sidewalk is jacked up, but no one really says that that means. Here is what that means. Pic attached.
Cops are still picking up chicas. There seems to rhyme or reason to who they pick up. I wish they would pick up these "too young girls", pre teen street hustlers, and known pick-pockets.
The best change rate I got was 45.90 with the dude inside the cage in the Orange plaza. Considering that the bank rate is 46.06, I thought that was damn good. Most other places are changing at 45.50 or 45.60.
The Cigar bar is closed. I don't remember seeing anyone report that. Pic attached.
Schlemmer Stube (the german place) is open but only folks in there to eat. See next.
Bar Central is open, but only folks in there to drink. The Haitian embassy days are over for now. See next.
The new Haitian Embassy is City Lights. 90% of them have moved there from everywhere else they used to hang out. City Lights has a real DJ, multiple bartenders, quite a few waitresses, and some girls in uniform that dance to the DJs on the dance floor.
The beach was hot as fuck. My feet were burning from walking on the sand.
Morua Mai is still open, but closed on Tuesdays now.
Venezuelans are infiltrating Sosua. And they are asking for stupid money right off the top. Usually $100 or $125 in US.
M&M massage is still a good place to get a legit massage.
Classicos was open Friday and Saturday until 2 am. Sunday until midnight. Closed Monday night. Merengue was the spot to be in Monday night.
On the nights that things closed at midnight, the strip was cleared out by 12:15 tops. Usually by 12:12 the last bikes were pulling off.
The word is getting out about Kviar being the new spot. You got to grow a pair and get off the strip to go to Kviar. It is NOT on the strip. I rode by it on my way to Puerto Plata, but I did not return during the night when it was open.
ReadyToGetOnIt
09-16-16, 23:43
Didn't run into any of my usual suspects while roaming around. Wrx. Mr. E. Where you at, my dudes? Haven't seen King Kong in a minute either.
FAQ's as of this trip.
Is Sosua shut down? No.
Hungry hoes got to eat, babies need pampers, sick grandmas need medicine, and bitches need Iphones and Galaxies.
Is it different from the last time you were there? Yes.
It's been different every time I've gone for the last 5 years, though. The the vibe in the air is really different. I used feel welcome when I walked around. Now I kinda just feel "tolerated".
Can you still find some pussy on the street? Yes, they are still walking around, just not on the strip for the main 2 blocks between Classico and Rumba.
You got to walk around Dr Rosen, New Garden, the ice cream shop, the Orange store, New York Pizza, Morua Mai, and the beach. But still plenty out there.
Do I need to pipeline with Tagged or DC before I go? No.
You can still find plenty of chicas when you get there.
Should you gather chicks numbers for Whatsapp? Yes.
You never know when you won't find someone on the street that you want, and you'll need to call someone over. And they WILL come over.
Are chicks really going to jail? Yes.
500 pesos and overnight in jail if they're caught.
Rockys has a ribs and chicken buffet on Friday and Saturday. I forgot how much it costs. But it was reasonable.
Did you see my favorita on the street / in the club / in the casino? Yes.
I saw her with dick in her mouth. Come on dudes. It's not your girl, it's just your turn! On another board I read, dudes be on that shit posting pics of girls and asking if anyone has seen them. Translation. They sending that cash, and want to make sure she's being loyal. Dem hoes ain't loyal!
I'm not putting anyone on blast, but I smashed this shorty a few years back. She was fresh off the boat, and I could tell. She was really shy, and I took mad pics and shit.
She's a pro now. Two or 3 times a day she changes her Whatsapp pic to one with her and a dude, or another with just him. Can anyone do the math? I saw her tonight, showed her the Whatsapp profile pic, like I do every time I see her, and her and her girlfriend just laughed. And I ask what I always ask. Donde tu novio. And she says what she always says. Solo mi amigo. And then she laughs again and asks if I want to blow her back out and take more pictures and videos.
What did everyone do after Classico and Merengue close? Go to the casino or go home.
Be careful using that strategy. The choice girls are picked early, and gone. They know there is point in rushing to come back to the strip. The only ones left going to the casino are ones you probably don't want, or are going to have a problem with.
Do I really need to start my night earlier? Yes.
That includes me. I used to take a nap and wake up around 9, go get dinner around 10 ish, be done by 11, and then start thinking about what or who I was going to do. Can't do that anymore. Got to start your night earlier.
Is sosua dead? No.
It's not dying. It's changing. You need to change too.
Final analysis. I made up my mind on this trip to start moving around. As uncomfortable as it is. Went to Santiago, tried out Passions. That joint is on some next level shit compared to the one in Sosua. Hit a few other spots. You got to come out of your comfort zone! If not, you'll be stuck with Sosua gives you. If you want to know what that's going to be like. Well. Just think about shopping at Walmart! Pic attached. Some of these mofos acting like they're doing YOU a favor!
Didn't run into any of my usual suspects while roaming around. Wrx. Mr. E. Where you at, my dudes? Haven't seen King Kong in a minute either.
FAQ's as of this trip.
Is Sosua shut down? No.
Hungry hoes got to eat, babies need pampers, sick grandmas need medicine, and bitches need Iphones and Galaxies.
Is it different from the last time you were there? Yes.
It's been different every time I've gone for the last 5 years, though. The the vibe in the air is really different. I used feel welcome when I walked around. Now I kinda just feel "tolerated".................
............................Final analysis. I made up my mind on this trip to start moving around. As uncomfortable as it is. Went to Santiago, tried out Passions. That joint is on some next level shit compared to the one in Sosua. Hit a few other spots. You got to come out of your comfort zone! If not, you'll be stuck with Sosua gives you. If you want to know what that's going to be like. Well. Just think about shopping at Walmart! Pic attached. Some of these mofos acting like they're doing YOU a favor!Thanks for the "no bullshit" reports Mr Ready to Go!
All you need to know to get a feel for the place, and know what to expect!
Didn't run into any of my usual suspects while roaming around. Wrx. Mr. E. Where you at, my dudes? Haven't seen King Kong in a minute either.
FAQ's as of this trip.
Is Sosua shut down? No.
Hungry hoes got to eat, babies need pampers, sick grandmas need medicine, and bitches need Iphones and Galaxies.
Final analysis. I made up my mind on this trip to start moving around. As uncomfortable as it is. Went to Santiago, tried out Passions. That joint is on some next level shit compared to the one in Sosua. Hit a few other spots. You got to come out of your comfort zone! If not, you'll be stuck with Sosua gives you. If you want to know what that's going to be like. Well. Just think about shopping at Walmart! Pic attached. Some of these mofos acting like they're doing YOU a favor!Damn good report.
I also need to break out of my comfort zone also and explore a little.
A comment and question for ReadytoGetOniIt: First, nice report. Isn't Passions in Santiago closed with the owners facing criminal charges? Have they re-opened? Not trying to be argumentative but I have not heard that they are back in business.
ReadyToGetOnIt
09-17-16, 19:09
No, my dude. It was very much open. I've never been to Santiago, and I was sitting in the VIP area just in front of the bathroom. I was there really early, and not many girls were on the floor so I found the patio area and chilled at the grill where all the girls were eating dinner. This was Tuesday night.
I don't take it as argumentative. I've seen some posts over the years where people have posted absolute garbage. Makes me wonder if they ever left their basement. But as I said in my trip report. This is eyewitness news, not lie witness news. I don't know any politicians, police chiefs, or any of the local brouhaha. I'm just saying what I'm' seeing. I'll post a separate report in the Santiago thread for the other part of my trip.
A comment and question for ReadytoGetOniIt: First, nice report. Isn't Passions in Santiago closed with the owners facing criminal charges? Have they re-opened? Not trying to be argumentative but I have not heard that they are back in business.
ReadyToGetOnIt
09-17-16, 19:47
I got a few PM's on the side asking the same questions, so I'll post the answers here.
Did you go anywhere else? Yes.
I set a plan to do 2 things outside my norm on this trip. I jumped in a publico to meet a friend at the airport instead of having his driver pick me up. I took another publico and went to La Sirena and the Malecon in Puerto Plata. Took another publico and went to Cabarete. And I met a dude who lives there who volunteered to drive to Santiago. On the way, he stopped by a few of his "girlfriends" houses in different barrios to show me around.
Did you drive? Fux no!
Too many warnings from the vets over the years. See last question. But I can see how driving is necessary. I'm not at peace with doing it myself yet, but will have to seriously reconsider it, or hire a driver. The drive through the mountains was some on some next level shit. You need some steel balls, and you need not go at night. But you need a car to get into the barrios and to pick up strays along the main road.
Are the girls better? Yes and no.
They are the same girls you would find in Sosua, but without the sllut wear, makeup hair and nails. And as a result, they are happy to take a fraction of what I was paying on the strip. And I'm a 1500/2000 dude. And yes, I did say FRACTION.
Did they cost the same? Yes and no.
Cabarete girls cost more, period. I didn't take any. Santiago girls cost more, but depending on your perspective. Are higher quality. As for everywhere else, the thing I found is that you can find girls who are happy to come over just. JUST FOR BUS FARE! They are happy just to be away from their barrio for a day or two.
Did you have luck with Tagged? Yes.
No one wanted to come to Sosua, though. They all wanted me to come to their town. One girl had a car, and said she would come to Sosua, but wanted me to pay to fill up her tank. That was going to be 2800 pesos, so I passed.
What was Cabarete like?
Kinda like a sleepy beach town on the north cost of Hawaii or like certain beach towns in California. Definitely a surfer vibe to the place.
Hope this helps someone.
Charles Pooter
09-17-16, 20:29
But you need a car to get into the barrios
Good report, ReadyToGetOnIt.
I have never driven or rented a car and I bet I have been into as many or more barrios (and bateyes) as anyone posting here over the past ten years.
But I will admit there were a couple of occasions I wished I had a car to exit a barrio or batey quickly when things started to look awkward, though on both occasions I was just being paranoid and all ended well.
I agree that picking up women roadside is a great way to find appreciative semi-pros, as I have seen when riding with friends.
Tempoecorto
09-17-16, 21:33
I have never driven or rented a car and I bet I have been into as many or more barrios (and bateyes) as anyone posting here over the past ten years.
Charles,
I am likely to be in Sosua next Saturday (9/24). Would you be available? If you are, do send me a private message with a mode of contact that gets to you quickly.
ReadyToGetOnIt
09-17-16, 22:42
Good report, ReadyToGetOnIt.
I have never driven or rented a car and I bet I have been into as many or more barrios (and bateyes) as anyone posting here over the past ten years.
But I will admit there were a couple of occasions I wished I had a car to exit a barrio or batey quickly when things started to look awkward, though on both occasions I was just being paranoid and all ended well.
I agree that picking up women roadside is a great way to find appreciative semi-pros, as I have seen when riding with friends.Can you tell me the difference between a barrio and a batey? I don't know the difference, and google translate has never been of any help on batey.
We were way out in this one spot, and even with a car. If something had gone sideways, there was no getting out quickly. But like you, possibly my imagination was getting the best of me. It was kinda deep. You drive through and EVERYONE is sitting out front, looking at you, staring, pointing, etc. And the streets and potholes are so bad that you can't speed through. One way in, one way out. No lights depending on what time of day it is.
Mr Enternational
09-17-16, 22:53
And the streets and potholes are so bad that you can't speed through. One way in, one way out.That sounds like every neighborhood in DR. The one that I stay in in Puerto Plata is pretty upscale and they just recently filled in all the big ass potholes they had.
Manizales911
09-18-16, 03:05
I took another publico and went to La Sirena and the Malecon in Puerto Plata. There are no publicos that go to La Sirena and the malecon.
ReadyToGetOnIt
09-18-16, 03:26
There are no publicos that go to La Sirena and the malecon.You are correct. There are no publicos that go directly to La Sirena. I hopped out of the publico on a main street, and followed my phone GPS down a street, through a playground, and around a corner to get there. The publicos don't go on the street in front of the Malecon.
I don't know you my dude, but was that necessary? Nitpicking like this is why my post count stays low.
There are no publicos that go to La Sirena and the malecon.I always take the publico to La Sirena (they drop you off in town).
I always take the plane to Puerto Plata (they drop you off in La Union).
Charles Pooter
09-18-16, 14:28
You are correct. There are no publicos that go directly to La Sirena. I hopped out of the publico on a main street, and followed my phone GPS down a street, through a playground, and around a corner to get there. And you could have got within 5 minutes walk to La Sirena by staying on the publico on its route through town, but a fit guy would do what you did (10 minutes walk to La Sirena).
Pto Pta will soon have Jumbo, larger than La Sirena and directly on the publico route opposite the baseball stadium.
Charles Pooter
09-18-16, 14:41
Can you tell me the difference between a barrio and a batey? I don't know the difference, and google translate has never been of any help on batey.A barrio is simply an urban area, but not one which has been planned and developed as an entity (which would be an urbanizacion). Barrios in the DR are usually poor areas, but in many Spanish-speaking countries the word is neutral and can be equally used to describe elite residential areas.
A batey is a rural Haitian settlement, originally temporary to shelter extra labor taken on for the sugar harvest. Should be an accent on the "e", but the spell-checker here knows better.
El Batey is now the gringo part of Sosua, originally land given by the Haitian government to Jewish immigrants before WWII. It was poor land from which they cleared Haitian squatters.
A barrio is simply an urban area, but not one which has been planned and developed as an entity (which would be an urbanizacion). Barrios in the DR are usually poor areas, but in many Spanish-speaking countries the word is neutral and can be equally used to describe elite residential areas.
A batey is a rural Haitian settlement, originally temporary to shelter extra labor taken on for the sugar harvest. Should be an accent on the "e", but the spell-checker here knows better.
El Batey is now the gringo part of Sosua, originally land given by the Haitian government to Jewish immigrants before WWII. It was poor land from which they cleared Haitian squatters.Land given by the Haitian government? How come the Haitian government owned this land? Also the 800 or so Jews arrived between 1940 and 1945, so some may have arrived before the US was in the war, but WWII was already underway by the time anyone arrived. I think plans to receive the Jews came from an international conference in 1938, so perhaps the land was designated before the outbreak of WWII, but might not have been occupied.
A batey appears to have been somewhat equivalent to the hop-pickers huts found in Kent, England at least as recently as the 1970's. During the early part of the 20th century many poor people from the East End of London went to the country to pick hops in September as a kind of cheap form of working vacation--no doubt there were plenty of opportunities for sex and booze on late summer nights. I slept in one of those huts many years ago, using scavenged lumber and fallen branches for firewood for evening warmth and for cooking. You had to go to the farmyard for a flush toilet, but buckets of cold water for bathing were freely available both from taps and rainwater butts. Ah, those were the days.
A barrio is simply an urban area, but not one which has been planned and developed as an entity (which would be an urbanizacion). Barrios in the DR are usually poor areas, but in many Spanish-speaking countries the word is neutral and can be equally used to describe elite residential areas.
The best word to translate 'barrio' is probably neigborhood or "hood". It implies not just an urban area, but a residential area within a city. This word is used a lot in this sense the US, but not so much in the UK. In the UK the expression "in the neighborhood" just means "somewhat within walking distance of".
Pto Pta will soon have Jumbo, larger than La Sirena and directly on the publico route opposite the baseball stadium.Jumbo will no doubt be selling their own brand of condoms. Unfortunately publicos do not usually have enough room for large loads of groceries, but the supermarkets usually have cheap, battered, old taxis available to take people home with their purchases, although with rising affluence the parking lot at La Sirena is full of SUVs these days.
Charles Pooter
09-18-16, 21:49
... the supermarkets usually have cheap, battered, old taxis available to take people home with their purchasesI use one every Wednesday. 150 pesos well spent. If the driver carries the stuff indoors for me I give him a 50 peso propina.
Charles Pooter
09-18-16, 21:57
Land given by the Haitian government? How come the Haitian government owned this land? I meant land designated by the Haitian government. No idea who actually owned it.
The Haitian President at the time was Rafael Trujillo, the US State Department's prize pupil. If he expressed a desire for your house, land, horse, wife or daughter, it was a smart idea to make him a present of them, with a gracious smile.
I meant land designated by the Haitian government. No idea who actually owned it.
The Haitian President at the time was Rafael Trujillo, the US State Department's prize pupil. If he expressed a desire for your house, land, horse, wife or daughter, it was a smart idea to make him a present of them, with a gracious smile.Pooter, old chap, I think if you look in your history books you will find that Trujillo was the Dominican President at the time, not the Haitian President, although he might have had a few Haitian chromosomes about his person. The Haitian head of state at the time was a fellow called Vincent.
Explorer8939
09-18-16, 23:21
Gentlemen, I am contemplating a trip to Sosua, but many reports are comparisons to the old days, which is not helpful. The only comparison of use to me is with other places like Puerto Plata.
Some of the reports imply that there are only a handful of venues and the ladies are either scammers or overcharging.
How about reports on Sosua that describe the scene as it is and not how it was?
I don't know you my dude, but was that necessary? Nitpicking like this is why my post count stays low.It's not so much what you post, but how you spell it.
You can take any kind of drug, engage in any act of debauchery.
As long as you spell it right!
We have a zealous Board of Governors here. :)
Tempoecorto
09-19-16, 00:39
We have a zealous Board of Governors here. :)The original poster had posted a lot of "important info" and I believe Manizales who is a local resident, was merely pointing out a factual error (that I had wondered about and then ignored), should others be led to believe it because of a chest thumping claim of "eye witness" news, not that the error would impact a whole lot of Sosualites!
Gentlemen, I am contemplating a trip to Sosua, but many reports are comparisons to the old days, which is not helpful. The only comparison of use to me is with other places like Puerto Plata.
Puerto Plata and Sosua are completely different. Sosua is small, compact, everything within a few hundred yards on foot. Sosua is very touristy, lots of hotels for you to choose from. Puerto Plata has limited choice of hotels and it is much harder, though not completely impossible, to meet chicas while walking around in the street or sitting outside bars. Puerto Plata has a few bars and clubs where you can meet chicas. Many of the chicas in Sosua live in Puerto Plata, and you can see them in the late evening catching public taxis outside the hospital in all their finery on their way to Sosua.
The original poster had posted a lot of "important info" and I believe Manizales who is a local resident, was merely pointing out a factual error (that I had wondered about and then ignored), should others be led to believe it because of a chest thumping claim of "eye witness" news, not that the error would impact a whole lot of Sosualites!A new mongering report is a valuable commodity, ctrtiics are a dime a dozen!
Manz could have "augmented" the information without leaving a bad taste in my, and the posters, mouth!
You just got my vote to the Board of Governors here, but be careful y'all don't drive away the on topic posters!
Tempoecorto
09-19-16, 03:35
You just got my vote to the Board of Governors here, but be careful y'all don't drive away the on topic posters!On topic! With all due respect, there is nothing NEW that has not already been written about the blessed place! One place shuts down and another has come up, girls are plentiful or girls are all gone, stick to Sosua or no fan out and explore, that admixed with shoeshine boys, cops, politics, linguistics, sociology, economics and so forth in the slow months, as you say. This forum is just a sine curve with varying amplitude.
Charles Pooter
09-19-16, 14:13
Pooter, old chap, I think if you look in your history books you will find that Trujillo was the Dominican President at the timeOops! Slip of the senile mind.
Charles Pooter
09-19-16, 14:30
The only comparison of use to me is with other places like Puerto Plata.When I immigrated here eight years ago I chose to live in Puerto Plata rather than Sosua or any other town and, although it turned out I did so for the wrong reasons, I have never regretted it. I would always advise single guys contemplating moving here permanently to choose Pto Pta. Better services, lower living costs, and wider choice of chicas for GFE.
However, that is a very different situation from mongers on a short trip (say less than three months). Newbie mongers and those without much Spanish are best advised to choose either Blackbeards or Sosua (or a combination of both if their stay is long enough).
Of course, as in all walks of life, if you have unlimited funds, the normal criteria do not apply. You could stay in a Pto Pta AI, take girls from Cristal and Kviar to cabanas, using private taxis, or patronize Field of Dreams. Some of our posters are in that happy position. But if those on a normal budget try to imitate them, they will come unstuck.
Hello Sir Charles,
Hope you are well. I have to respectfully disagree about Puerto Plata being all that. I've spent quality time in both the north and south coasts (just got back to the states last night) and the south coast (SD, BC, San Pedro etc) has many more options as far as women, adventures, excursions and big city type of amenities (SD has movies, parks, subway, malls etc) vs the north coast where the options are very limited.
The north coast may be more gringo friendly but IMO that's not a plus because it makes you lazy and you get into a comfort zone. Being forced to learn Spanish and the culture offer a more rewarding experience. Gringo crime is higher on the north coast vs the south coast.
I have a home in Costambar that I hate to go to. It's boring there and you will need a car to stay there.
Here's my main beef about the north coast vs the south coast; Most people on the north coast are nosy and gossiping and watching gringo. On the south coast most people have an agenda and I can blend in because I look Dominican. I can arrive in Sosua tomorrow and by tomorrow night word will have gotten to Puerto Plata that I'm there. Motochonchos, girls in salons, girls on the street all send out an SOS that gringo has arrived. It's an efficient network. The south coast people don't care. It's always people on the north coast that do nothing but sit and watch and report. The north coast has become a full time hustle on gringo because of their familiarity with us.
I guess I will now be getting slammed by guys feeling I'm attacking their beloved north coast but guys like it easy and Santo Domingo is to hard. Puerto Plata was nice five years ago before people picked up on the gringo hustle. The girls were sweeter and would invite you to their homes for a meal and to hangout. Several guys from this board can vouch about hanging in the barrio in Puerto Plata and girls putting on their good clothes to come see the gringos. Nowadays you better be careful being a gringo in the barrio in Puerto Plata.
Cristals has some raggedy girls IMO. I've been there about 10 times and never wanted any girl there especially with those inflated prices.
In closing. The south coast is an adventure with unlimited opportunities if you aren't lazy while the north coast is just a gringo hustle with a taste of what was.
Manizales911
09-19-16, 16:45
You are correct. There are no publicos that go directly to La Sirena. I hopped out of the publico on a main street, and followed my phone GPS down a street, through a playground, and around a corner to get there. The publicos don't go on the street in front of the Malecon.
I don't know you my dude, but was that necessary? Nitpicking like this is why my post count stays low.My intent was not to be nitpicky or anything of the sort but I can see how my post could be construed as such though and because of that I will apologize to you and the members of this board.
That said, the intention of my post was to point out to visitors to Sosua, after all this is the Sosua thread NOT the Pto Pta thread, that you in fact can not take a publico directly to La Sirena and / or the malecon, mongers in Sosua don't want to walk across the street let alone 15 minutes in the heat of the day. I also would not advise gringos to walk back to the parada after shopping carrying bright yellow La Sirena bags in Puerto Plata, eventually bad shit will happen, I know some people will argue that Pto Pta is safe for a gringo to walk in but I know better, I used to live in that immediate area.
On topic! With all due respect, there is nothing NEW that has not already been written about the blessed place! One place shuts down and another has come up, girls are plentiful or girls are all gone, stick to Sosua or no fan out and explore, that admixed with shoeshine boys, cops, politics, linguistics, sociology, economics and so forth in the slow months, as you say. This forum is just a sine curve with varying amplitude.To be fair, occasionally someone new comes in and writes a report that brings a new perspective to the board, but not often. It would be interesting to see a report from someone who was wheelchair bound, or had never paid for sex before, or who had just got out of a long term marriage, or something like that. The thing that is really missing in most of the reports is a sense of wonderment, a sense of having had a never-before experience, or just of having had a wonderful sexual experience of some kind. There is way too much about negative experiences of one kind or another. The study of linguistics, economics, etc. , though strictly off topic, is interesting because it is all about how to fine tune communication with the people you meet and have sexual experiences with.
If you just want to know where to go to find a girl, whether you can get BBBJ, and how much you might pay, there really is little to know and by reading reports and comments here you will very quickly get a feel for the general ambience of Sosua.
Tempoecorto
09-19-16, 23:25
The study of linguistics, economics, etc. , though strictly off topic, is interesting because it is all about how to fine tune communication with the people you meet and have sexual experiences with.Personally, those insights are more interesting for me for the reasons you mention. What Sosua was, is or going to be is but of academic interest that certainly is not my cuppa tea!
To be fair, occasionally someone new comes in and writes a report that brings a new perspective to the board, but not often. It would be interesting to see a report from someone who was wheelchair bound, or had never paid for sex before, or who had just got out of a long term marriage, or something like that. The thing that is really missing in most of the reports is a sense of wonderment, a sense of having had a never-before experience, or just of having had a wonderful sexual experience of some kind. There is way too much about negative experiences of one kind or another. The study of linguistics, economics, etc. , though strictly off topic, is interesting because it is all about how to fine tune communication with the people you meet and have sexual experiences with.
If you just want to know where to go to find a girl, whether you can get BBBJ, and how much you might pay, there really is little to know and by reading reports and comments here you will very quickly get a feel for the general ambience of Sosua.I remember you were heavily into a conversation with a mongering couple, who turned out to be bullshitters and got banned from the board, so you have to be careful.
Otherwise, the young Victoria Minaya 22 years old, reported that last Sunday was physically assaulted by an agent of the Special Body Tourism Security (CESTUR) in the municipality of Sosúa, but also was captured without any justification, It is released Monday at noon.
According to the statement by the lady, at approximately 11:25 pm was captured by the agent CESTUR and taken handcuffed to the detachment of the institution where he was ordered to underwear (panties) are removed and that by refusing him they fired several blows to the face and other parts of your body.
The girl who was attacked by uniformed presents several bruises and contusions on his face, arms and head as stated in an official medical certificate issued in the Limardo Ricardo Hospital of Puerto Plata because as he said, in addition to the physical was verbally abused in front of other members of CESTUR in Sosúa allegedly accused her of prostitute.
Otherwise, the young Victoria Minaya 22 years old, reported that last Sunday was physically assaulted by an agent of the Special Body Tourism Security (CESTUR) in the municipality of Sosa, but also was captured without any justification, It is released Monday at noon.
According to the statement by the lady, at approximately 11:25 pm was captured by the agent CESTUR and taken handcuffed to the detachment of the institution where he was ordered to underwear (panties) are removed and that by refusing him they fired several blows to the face and other parts of your body.
The girl who was attacked by uniformed presents several bruises and contusions on his face, arms and head as stated in an official medical certificate issued in the Limardo Ricardo Hospital of Puerto Plata because as he said, in addition to the physical was verbally abused in front of other members of CESTUR in Sosa allegedly accused her of prostitute.So you ran this through a translator to make it virtually incomprehensible, instead of posting a link. Why was that? Did you read your results?: "He was ordered to underwear"; "they fired several blows to ... other parts of your body"; "the girl presents several bruises ... on his face," etc. Was it not obvious to you that the pronouns were all mixed up?
Take the "D.A.R.E." approach and "just say no" to posting translated articles with no source. Because this really makes you look dumb!
As penance, you are hereby "ordered to underwear" for the next thirty days.
So you ran this through a translator to make it virtually incomprehensible, instead of posting a link. Why was that? Did you read your results?: "He was ordered to underwear"; "they fired several blows to ... other parts of your body"; "the girl presents several bruises ... on his face," etc. Was it not obvious to you that the pronouns were all mixed up?
Take the "D.A.R.E." approach and "just say no" to posting translated articles with no source. Because this really makes you look dumb!
As penance, you are hereby "ordered to underwear" for the next thirty days.I appreciate his effort. I googled her name and some more info and I was able to find the article and her Facebook. Sometimes we have to be a little innovative here.
I was thinking she might have been Venezuelan and the cops wanted some pussy but she is actually Dominican. One might wonder why she was alone on Pedro Clisante at 11 pm but her Facebook showed a very family oriented, respected lady.
Tempoecorto
09-22-16, 23:43
So you ran this through a translator to make it virtually incomprehensible, instead of posting a link. With all due respect, I think Revere was merely doing a favor to the majority (I would think) here that do not have any Spanish and so the link alone would have been useless. Yes, the genders were all screwed up but people would make amends for that, knowing it was machine translated.
So you ran this through a translator to make it virtually incomprehensible, instead of posting a link. Why was that? Did you read your results?: "He was ordered to underwear"; "they fired several blows to ... other parts of your body"; "the girl presents several bruises ... on his face," etc. Was it not obvious to you that the pronouns were all mixed up?
Take the "D.A.R.E." approach and "just say no" to posting translated articles with no source. Because this really makes you look dumb!
As penance, you are hereby "ordered to underwear" for the next thirty days.The story was weaved into another story so link was not possible and did not want people to get confused and was on a plane. Not to hard to fiigurre out. If you look at my past posts I always show links, but I know you know that already you just saw a chance to be a dick when you saw my mistake. But, whatever last thing I care about is what another man thinks of me and glad my life is better than getting uptight over translation issues.
The story was weaved into another story so link was not possible and did not want people to get confused and was on a plane. Not to hard to fiigurre out. If you look at my past posts I always show links, but I know you know that already you just saw a chance to be a dick when you saw my mistake. But, whatever last thing I care about is what another man thinks of me and glad my life is better than getting uptight over translation issues.Critics ara a dime a dozen!
It takes some great effort to build a barn, but an idiot with a match can burn it down in a couple seconds.
Keep on trucking Revere! Thanks for the info!
Charles Pooter
09-23-16, 20:17
Hello Sir Charles,
Hope you are well, etcHi Mr Gogo.
Thank you for your interesting post and enquiry as to my health (to which I would reply "pa pi mal", the standard Haitian response, and particularly appropriate in my case).
I assumed the OP was only interested in comparing Sosua and Puerto Plata. As he is a comparative newbie and I do not know how much Spanish he has (if any) I would not recommend SD to him, but if he wants to be brave and take the plunge, good luck to him.
As to comparing Pto Pta to SD (which was not what he was asking about) I do not think we disagree on the facts, just on our personal perceptions and requirements.
I loathe big cities and moved to the DR to get away from that life. I lived less than an hour from Central London most of my later life and very rarely visited it. If I did not want to visit London, I am hardly likely to want to spend time in a filthy, dysfunctional shithole like SD. If I do not enter a shopping mall or ride a subway for another twenty years, it will be too soon for me. As for sitting in a cinema with Dominicans, I have experienced that once. Never again.
Yes, Costambar is boring. I cannot imagine anyone why anyone would want to have a home there.
I have lived the past eight years in Pto Pta. It fills all my needs and I do not recognize it from your description. And I have never suffered the delusion that the locals are the slightest bit interested in my movements, but then I am not a legend like you. I have as little contact with locals as possible, but when I do both parties are polite, even friendly. I do keep a bit more "on my toes" in Sosua, maybe just because I do not know the local faces as well.
Yes, there are thirty times as many women in SD, but they are spread over an area thirty times greater and there are thirty times as many males as well. Anyway, how many women do we need a week? There have always been more than enough for me in Pto Pta.
Serious crime rates are much higher in SD than Pto Pta, even allowing for the greater population. The cops alone murder hundreds of people a year.
Here is a little to the killings in the DR and you will see that even though the south coast has as some here say, 30 times the people, 30 times the space, and 30 times more men that the north coast is holding its own with murders. So if you want a little hick country town that's dangerous and the ex pats sip the same hot beer all day, then maybe POP is your place. Oh! And don't forget that expensive ass airport.
http://www.dominicanwatchdog.org/dominican_news
Exuma Stealth
09-24-16, 13:27
Anyone in the Sosua or Puerto Plata area can give me the exchange rates there now. Will be making a trip in two weeks.
Manizales911
09-24-16, 17:38
The story was weaved into another story so link was not possible and did not want people to get confused and was on a plane. Not to hard to fiigurre out. If you look at my past posts I always show links, but I know you know that already you just saw a chance to be a dick when you saw my mistake. But, whatever last thing I care about is what another man thinks of me and glad my life is better than getting uptight over translation issues.Hence the name "Dickhead".
SavePros321
09-24-16, 18:13
Anyone in the Sosua or Puerto Plata area can give me the exchange rates there now. Will be making a trip in two weeks.The exchange rates could be completely different two weeks from now. Just use a site like xe.com to get an idea of what they are like on the ground.
Quagmire1974
09-24-16, 18:39
Anyone in the Sosua or Puerto Plata area can give me the exchange rates there now. Will be making a trip in two weeks.This is what a friend of mine said on the Sosua thread on TripAdvisor on September 21:
"As of yesterday the posted rate at Caribe tours in Sosua (in the Super Pola center) was 46 pesos to one dollar. "
And SavePros321 is right, the rate will be different by the time you get there. But it will likely be in the ballpark figure of 46 pesos per dollar.
To be fair, occasionally someone new comes in and writes a report that brings a new perspective to the board, but not often. It would be interesting to see a report from someone a ) who was wheelchair bound, or b) had never paid for sex before, or who had just got out of a long term marriage, or something like that.I believe this was also covered many a time:
A) Charles Pooter? (operative word being " bound ").
B) Mr. ENT? (actually the girls pay Him, so that's one better).
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The exchange rates could be completely different two weeks from now. Just use a site like xe.com to get an idea of what they are like on the ground.Not all money changers give official rate. It helps to know official exchange rate by checking on xe.com and ask the money changers for their rates. In Sosua it is usually displayed on the window.
Tempoecorto
09-24-16, 19:54
Anyone in the Sosua or Puerto Plata area can give me the exchange rates there now. Will be making a trip in two weeks.A street vendor and a store, near "Bon" ice cream close to New Whatever hotel, both quoted 45 pesos to a $, about an hour back. WU was closed so no idea what that is but in Santiago I got 46 pesos earlier in the week.
Dr1 dot com is a message board for expats and has a thread that documents recent exchange rates members have received in the Dr.
Not all money changers give official rate. It helps to know official exchange rate by checking on xe.com and ask the money changers for their rates. In Sosua it is usually displayed on the window..
This is what a friend of mine said on the Sosua thread on TripAdvisor on September 21:
"As of yesterday the posted rate at Caribe tours in Sosua (in the Super Pola center) was 46 pesos to one dollar. "
And SavePros321 is right, the rate will be different by the time you get there. But it will likely be in the ballpark figure of 46 pesos per dollar.A lot of people with think a difference of one peso between 45 and 46 is insignificant, and it looks that way, but that represents more than 2% and if you are spending hundreds or thousands of dollars it all adds up if you are paying an extra 2% or maybe even 5% or more for your vacation.
An exchange rate, like an interest rate, is a price. Nothing more and nothing less. When you shop for groceries and other items, do you make a lot of effort to save 2% at the grocery store? If not, it won't matter if you save 2% on the exchange rate.
Charles Pooter
09-25-16, 14:19
An exchange rate, like an interest rate, is a price. Nothing more and nothing less. When you shop for groceries and other items, do you make a lot of effort to save 2% at the grocery store? If not, it won't matter if you save 2% on the exchange rate.For some reason, people take exchange rates as a personal challenge in a way they would not with shop or restaurant prices.
Some guys spend 300 pesos on a taxi from El Batey to Charamicos and back to save 400 pesos and think they have somehow chalked up a big victory against the system. But they will over-tip by 500 pesos during the course of a night's drinking and think nothing of it, not to mention those who over-pay working girls by 1000 pesos and say "It's my money, I'll spend it how I want".
I remember when I was married, my wife and I took her mother on her first foreign holiday. Her main interest for 10 days was walking round different banks and cambios comparing exchange rates. People are odd.
I think there is a particular problem with Americans. The US is a vast country with hundreds of racial origins and every sort of terrain and climate type. Most Americans never need to travel abroad. They think of everything in dollars, even when they do. They regard foreign currencies with suspicion as some kind of commie conspiracy.
I had my eyes opened on my first trip to the DR which was the first time I talked to blue-collar Americans. One guy, who seemed otherwise quite intelligent and had a far more responsible and demanding job than me, complained that I had an unfair advantage as everything was half price for Brits. His reason? Brits got 60 pesos for a pound, whereas Americans only got 30 pesos for a dollar. And he was not joking.
Yes, Charles, it's true that many of us from the United States (I don't use the term "American" in reference to myself, for reasons that should be obvious but unfortunately aren't) are basically innumerate. And, we have a poor understanding of basic economics, which could lead to the disaster of Trump, since few of us can understand that the doctrine of comparative advantage has caused manufacturing jobs to disappear, not "unfavorable trade agreements. " Many of us are very culturally ignorant, know virtually no history, and are ethnocentric to a dangerous degree. We can't figure out simple things like the metric system or the Celsius scale, and we drive on the wrong side of the road.
However, we don't tend to descend en masse from cheap Ryan Air flights to places like where I am now (Tallinn) and proceed to vomit in the streets. Only Brits seem to do that. I see this all over Europe. Maybe it's the fact that the beer is actually cold that does this? Or that it has more than 3% alcohol? Or that when asking for a "shandy" they get blank looks?
I've almost given up traveling with my fellow countrymen because they want me to translate the exchange rates, the metric system, the 24 hour clock (except for those who've been in the military), the fucking temperature, and all of that nonsense. Plus I usually end up driving because for some reason these rental car companies in other countries insist on sticking the gringo with the car with the manual transmission. They tend not to believe me when I tell them all the rental cars, indeed ALL the cars, period, have manual transmissions. Now, when someone says a place is 3 kilometers / kilometres away, and they ask me how far that is, I say "Three thousand meters" and walk away.
But I'm a dickhead.
An exchange rate, like an interest rate, is a price. Nothing more and nothing less. When you shop for groceries and other items, do you make a lot of effort to save 2% at the grocery store? If not, it won't matter if you save 2% on the exchange rate.Well, would you park your spare cash in a savings account paying 2% interest versus one paying 0. 2% interest, all other things being equal? I would.
Yes, indeed, for example I will buy cheaper brands of foods if they are the same quality as more expensive brands, buy gasoline where it is a bit cheaper, and so on. This does not require any effort at all. I will get cash out of my own bank's ATMs or get cash back at Walmart to avoid ATM fees. I will buy prescription glasses online to spend less, I will buy things off Amazon if that is a bit cheaper than spending gasoline and my time to go to the store. I will turn the thermostat at home up or down before leaving for work. And so on. It is all small amounts of course, but over the years it adds up to hundreds and thousands of dollars that I can save or use for something else.
Spending $300 pesos to get the taxi to Charamicos to save on exchange is self defeating, but you could get the moto for much less, and if you were going to Charamicos anyway, for example to go to Alberto's pharmacy, which is cheaper than those in Sosua, then perhaps there would be no extra expense involved.
What you really have to watch out for though, is exchange rates that are nowhere near the correct rates of exchange, like inside the airport, where you will possibly pay 15 or 20 percent over the odds, or any exchange that you are offered in hotels, where you may end up paying a surcharge equivalent to a sales tax or more.
Well, would you park your spare cash in a savings account paying 2% interest versus one paying 0. 2% interest, all other things being equal? I would.Well, of course, that is either a 90% difference or a 900% difference, so it's a bit exaggerated. And, since money is fungible, one would never see such a difference in real life, absent regulatory restrictions. Probably not your best example.
Parkinsons
09-26-16, 15:20
Here is a little to the killings in the DR and you will see that even though the south coast has as some here say, 30 times the people, 30 times the space, and 30 times more men that the north coast is holding its own with murders. So if you want a little hick country town that's dangerous and the ex pats sip the same hot beer all day, then maybe POP is your place. Oh! And don't forget that expensive ass airport.
http://www.dominicanwatchdog.org/dominican_newshttp://ensegundos.do/2016/09/26/vivir-en-santo-domingo-cuesta-un-29-mas-que-en-la-region-del-cibao/
Interesting report. Cost of living in SD is almost a third higher than in Cibao. Can it be even higher compared to the North Coast?
I like big cities and enjoy my visits to SD.
But costs can be a factor in this argument / discussion.
http://ensegundos.do/2016/09/26/vivir-en-santo-domingo-cuesta-un-29-mas-que-en-la-region-del-cibao/
Interesting report. Cost of living in SD is almost a third higher than in Cibao. Can it be even higher compared to the North Coast?
I like big cities and enjoy my visits to SD.
But costs can be a factor in this argument / discussion.So true, it's about cost but also lifestyle. I consider myself a young guy that's super energetic so I need multiple venues. Some guys are content with a low cost of living, a bar, cute girls around and a beach which is cool I guess. But it m not going to retire to retire, I'm going to retire to start a new chapter in my life.
SD has a great Spanish school, aquarium, zoo, subway, movies and nice towns within an hours drive. I'm willing to pay extra for this, plus they have a great airport where I can zip to Cuba or the Caribbean in less than two hours at a reasonable price.
WRX is visiting me here in Florida right now and he is giving great info about my move to the DR by years end, he lives in the DR. From talking to most ex pats; the fucking goes down when you move there and so does the drinking and partying (if you are smart). You are no longer a tourist and look for more normal things to do. Naturally you are going to find the cheap expat that bases his entire DR living on cost to fit their limited income but I didn't work 30 years to be broke gringo.
The last thing I want in retirement is to be stuck, meaning having no desire to do anything and having a meager existence based on counting pesos.
I just used the "cost of living comparison application " and Puerto Plata is actually a higher cost of living compared to Santiago especially in housing. I was even surprised by this.
Tempoecorto
09-27-16, 00:05
However, we don't tend to descend en masse from cheap Ryan Air flights to places like where I am now (Tallinn) Whoa, in Estonia? I called it Talinin, before the Berlin walls crumbled. The closest I have been to, is Helsinki. If your job takes you there, wow, if it is the hobby, a double wow. Don't know anything of those three countries except that they were part of the Soviet system.
The reason I wanted to comment was I thought your comments were amusing from my perspective and true. I actually learned driving in Western Europe and was perfectly comfortable driving high speed in the autoroute / Bahn / Stradas and so first time renting in Vancouver, it was kind of funny getting into an automatic and I did have a little apprehension which disappeared quickly though. Just the way renting in Sydney and driving on the other side was another of those jolts but you get used to the idea. Fact is, driving in manual requires skill, all the more so, on a slope when you have to deftly maneuver the accelerator vs the clutch to keep the car stationary.
Like you, I travel alone but it was a personal choice as traveling alone allows for more alert eyes not to be taken advantage of, and the good thing is that by being alone, you get to discover others around you which enhances the learning. It also allows me to do things without having to plan for others.
Yes, it is true that for the US perspective, the landmass being so big, life begins and ends inside the national boundaries. Also many Americans have been brainwashed to believe that everything they have is the best so, the last twenty years have been an interesting wake up call for many as the economy in the era of wage arbitrage, lost jobs to everyone else. But I do see Americans as simple people at heart and in particular the Midwesterner to be particularly nice. I do need to add the Texans as well, their politics is awful but they are such big-hearted people and a state like Iowa, which is 97% white choosing Obama over Clinton in the primaries. There is a soul of goodness in this country; So yes, notwithstanding their calling the 24 hour time, Military time (LOL), and many other idiosyncrasies, I like America.
I just used the "cost of living comparison application " and Puerto Plata is actually a higher cost of living compared to Santiago especially in housing. I was even surprised by this.I think that's due to the large number of expats on the north coast. It's seems to me the mentality on the north coast is rip off the gringos as much as possible. Labor Day weekend some young chica approached a group of us on sosua beach and said she was a school girl who needed 200 pesos to get home. I said, el pblico es 60 pesos. She pretended not to understand me. My point is, she asked for more than double! That to me is the north coast mentality. Solo me dos centavos.
Manizales911
09-28-16, 14:37
The mayor and turismo announced that the closing hours for bars in Sosua will be changed back in ten days to Sunday-Wednesday 1 am And Thursday. Saturday 3 am Great news.
The mayor and turismo announced that the closing hours for bars in Sosua will be changed back in ten days to Sunday-Wednesday 1 am And Thursday. Saturday 3 am Great news.Damn I'm headed to the Sue. 10 days too soon. Oh well still good new!
SavePros321
10-01-16, 00:07
The mayor and turismo announced that the closing hours for bars in Sosua will be changed back in ten days to Sunday-Wednesday 1 am And Thursday. Saturday 3 am Great news.Thanks for the update!
Mr Enternational
10-01-16, 00:29
Damn I'm headed to the Sue. 10 days too soon. Oh well still good new!I'm here now sitting in front of the Cajun place. Just started pouring raining. And this fine mf from Santo Domingo just came over and forced me to take her number. (Oakie do not look. That is too much woman for you. I might have to pass her off to Old Kool.)
Eszpresszo
10-01-16, 00:45
I do need to add the Texans as well, their politics is awful but they are such big-hearted people and a state like Iowa, which is 97% white choosing Obama over Clinton in the primaries. There is a soul of goodness in this country; So yes, notwithstanding their calling the 24 hour time, Military time (LOL), and many other idiosyncrasies, I like America.Excuse me, but I'm from Texas, I think your politics are awful, and not we are not such big-hearted people anymore, especially to people like you. I think the only Texas you have visited is in your imagination.
BTW, we call it military time, because only the military uses it. Does that make sense?
You can pull winners in Sue without any hard work.
I'm here now sitting in front of the Cajun place. Just started pouring raining. And this fine mf from Santo Domingo just came over and forced me to take her number. (Oakie do not look. That is too much woman for you. I might have to pass her off to Old Kool.)
Fact is, driving in manual requires skill, all the more so, on a slope when you have to deftly maneuver the accelerator vs the clutch to keep the car stationary.I use the hand brake for that.
Naked Gunz
10-01-16, 09:56
I use the hand brake for that.Ladyboy. You know your good when you can drive a stick in San Francisco. Slopes are 50 degrees. Driving a stick shift is the best. Especially with a great car like my old Mit Eclipse. Can we get back to pussy, and off cars and racist politics? Thank you.
Using the hand brake saves your clutch lining, no matter how good you are. Statistics show that people who drive stick shifts get 32% more pussy.
BTW, we call it military time, because only the military uses it. Does that make sense?It would if it were true, but it is not. The largest industry in the US, the health care industry, uses the 24 hour clock and so does aviation, meterorolgy, and any other field where it is crucially important not to get the am And pm Times mixed up. It seems like the expression "military time" came into popular use worldwide around the time of the First World War, probably because a lot of people first ran into the 24 hour clock during military service in that conflict in Europe, where several countries were early adopters of the 24-hour clock, but in fact the 24 hour clock had been used earlier than that by railroads. The US military did not officially adopt the 24 hour clock until 1942.
Naked Gunz
10-01-16, 15:57
Using the hand brake saves your clutch lining, no matter how good you are. Statistics show that people who drive stick shifts get 32% more pussy.If it's an Eclipse, nothing wears out, even after 10 years of driving it. 100% actually, while OUT of the USA!
I'm here now sitting in front of the Cajun place. Just started pouring raining. And this fine mf from Santo Domingo just came over and forced me to take her number. (Oakie do not look. That is too much woman for you. I might have to pass her off to Old Kool.)I'll take advantage of your good natured cease-fire to bore you with another "same old crap" report.
It was good to be back in Sosua.
I was travelling alone, waiting for my buddy to arrive a couple days later. My regular doesn't know that I am in town.
I met some interesting Canadian people (white females) on the plane and in town, that live right in Sosua, and have businesses there. I saw a level of enthusiasm for the town I'd only previously seen in mongers. WTF? If the sex trade ever dries up. I'm now convinced there is a good future for Sosua. I might even re-consider my retirement plans. New construction and renovation is in full swing along the beach road behind Casa Marina, Casa Valeria is expanding so there definitely is life there.
My first night Tuesday, was uneventful. It was quiet, a couple of my favorite bars were closed, and one, across from Bailey's that served as an impromptu bachata dance bar, had been actually raised to the ground. Never did know it's name, but I did recommend it to OldKool, who likes to dance. D 'Latin and Rumba still closed, so I chilled up near Europa at my little outside bar with the girls who worked there. You Wi-Fi your music to their sound system, so you get to listen to what everybody likes!
It didn't take long to find the locals I know, or I should say they found me. They are still around town playing musical chairs, now the bars and restaurants are closed / quiet. An old chica friend is now running an esthetic shop that sells beer, (only in Sosua). Another, by coincidence delivers groceries to the condo where I am staying. My moto guy has now graduated to a taxi. So I got caught up with the latest gossip, like where is everybody now, will the recently closed bars re-open? Maybe, who knows? Is the universal answer. I'm amazed at their natural ablility to move on, and not waste time and energy worrying about things beyong their control. My old bar manager, servers, they all came around to what turned out to be party central for a few days. The action on Dr Rosen near Rocky's was hot with the chicas running in to the bars, hiding from the cops, was very remeniscent of Boca Chica. Some old puta friends (I can hardly call them hardcore came around for a beer.
Pussy wise, Dr Rosen came alive Wednesday, and there was enough beautiful young pussy around, to satisfy anyone. A new bar opened to replace the Bermuda Bar a couple of doors around the corner on Dr Rosen, and the place was packed. The 8/9's start at a standard 4,000 but the actual going rate is still around 2000/3500.
The guys are still hanging across the street from Rumba, in front of Bourbon and Imperial, but like Bar Central, more mongers than chicas. They guys look more bored, these days.
I was chilling, because my buddy was coming Thursday and he has now reached a comfort level where he organizes his own imports and he was bringing them in every couple of days, 3 days a family of 5, including Momma and a bambina, 2 days, two sisters. He vwas in heaven, but I kept warning him about the money he was spending. The deal was I was supposed to take some pussy off his hands, but I enjoyed being free and popped a beauty from the grocery store accross the street a couple of times. Then my regular showed up!
I did my own unnoficial pzza survey, and rated 1,2,3, Baily's, Terra Linda, and New York in that order. The "Complete" from Bailey's is better than sex!
Thursday night, we were in Classico, my first time in years, and the Air Conditioning alone was a worth the cover charge. It was packed with some beauties. My deal was to buy a beer for the one rubbing up against me, and sending her to the bar so she could line up and bring us drinks, so we kept our good spot at the corner! My version of VIP treatment.
We went up to my favorite Charamicos on Sunday, to eat, drink beer, music and pay my respects (and little propina) to the old folks there, who have looked after me over the years. I needed change so I gave a local 100 US. He took off for half an hour and came back with 4,000 peso. Hey I said! He says, Senor, this is Charamicos, and this is domingo, with a laugh!
Since my GF came later and left a day early, I was free to sniff around, and got the chica (student type) from my little bar to agree to come back to the room.
It's crazy, and must be my age, but I had been trying for a couple of days, and when she finally said yes, I sorta lost interest.
Sosua was hotter than hell, but is still alive and well, and everything a monger needs is still there, good food, good people, good pussy, ice cold beer!
Highly recommended!
Mr Enternational
10-01-16, 17:52
I wanted to check out Sosua since last time I was here it was a Tuesday and it looked like the place had gone to shit. Since it was Friday I guess it did a 180 turn. My regular hotel had a spot open so I threw my bags into the room then went to Rocky's to get some ribs. After I placed my order the waitress told me that if I wait until 5 pm they have the all you can get BBQ special for 450 pesos. That was better than the 640 pesos I was about to pay. So I decided to head to Charamicos to get a haircut in the mean time. It was 4:13 pm.
When I parked the car I saw my barber heading across the street so I hollered at him. He said he was going to use the bathroom and would be back in 5 minutes. But wait. There is nothing but and abandoned building there. And if you need 5 minutes that means you are planning to take a shit. At least when he returned I saw him sanitize his hands with alcohol. I took my phone out to take a picture of him cutting my hair and he almost shit bricks. He jumped back and told me not to record him. I told him that I was just trying to take a picture of the torrential rain outside.
Some guy came in and paid him 1200 pesos. Then he started telling me about the 2 million pesos that he has invested in Caribe Tours. He said they have 2000 drivers and I forget how many buses that go all over the country. I corrected him by saying that Caribe Tours does not go out east to Punta Cana / Bavaro / Higuey. You have to take APTRA bus from Santo Domingo to go there. You would have thought I cursed his mother. He swore me down that Caribe Tours went there. He even called a friend that said they go there as well. Then another guy came into the shop. He said that Caribe Tours did not go out east and even went to the station and got a brochure to show him. He was still not trying to hear it. I even texted my ex girlfriend who lives in Higuey and she confirmed that Caribe Tours does not come out that way. Well, he does not know his bus routes but he sure knows how to cut hair. He gave me one of the best cuts and shaves of my life and I was on my way 200 pesos lighter but looking like 1 million bucks. As I passed Caribe Tours I saw some fine ass half breeds getting off the bus. Were they going to Charamicos or were they planning to work in Sosua?
I got back to Rocky's and the food was ready. There was ribs (not the same ribs as when you place an order during non BBQ hours), chicken, pork chops, potato salad, and bread. It was taking forever for my pina colada to come so I questioned the waitress about it. She told me it was coming. Bullshit. Just then I saw the bartender chick walk to the store and come back with the coconut milk. Seriously? Turned out to be one of the best pina coladas I have ever had. The total damage was 650 pesos.
It was after 6 pm. I debated going back to my room for a while since I was full as a mf after 2 servings of BBQ, but decided to walk up to the strip to see what was going on. I stood right outside of the cajun restaurant and watched chicks walk by. The inside of the restaurant was full of mostly chicks at tables. Most of these chicks were top notch. I remember Wrx talking about them sitting there eating a plate of french fries. Well I think now they have found a cheaper option. Because most of them were sitting there eating cornbread muffins.
Some chicks come by and stop to talk to me trying to drum up business. I would always act like I did not speak Spanish. One chick told me 2000 for 1 hour. When I laughed she tried to change it to 2000 for 2 hours. When she stepped away I told (in Spanish) her friend who was still standing next to me your friend must be crazy to think somebody is going to give 2000 for 1 or 2 hours. I had given a girl in Santo Domingo 2000 for the entire night last night. It was dead obvious that many chicks on the stroll during those hours had not yet seen their 18th birthday. Clothes, accessories, hands, feet are all telltale signs that they have not reached adulthood.
Whenever I asked some of the chicks where they were from they would lie thinking all I knew was Sosua. One chick (who spoke some English-but keep in mind I am not letting them know I speak Spanish) said she was from Santo Domingo. Oh yeah, what part? She had no idea. Then her friend (who only spoke Spansh) said San Ysidro and she repeated San Ysidro. I said so tell me what is San Ysidro known for. She had no fucking idea. I finally told her friend that in San Ysidro there is an Air Force Base and many cabanas. She enthusiastically agreed and was surprised that I knew San Ysidro. It is funny to know more about their country than they do.
Some guys who were at the last table on the sidewalk got up and left so I sat down. The waitress came over and I asked for a menu. I decided to go with the Cuba Libre for 100 pesos. I had only left the room with 1500 and had already spent 900 for a haircut and food. As Wrx mentioned before it was really a weird dynamic at the cajun restaurant. I don't think many guys will approach a table full of chicks for whatever reason. And that is exactly what I witnessed the few hours that I was there. There were many tables full of chicks. Maybe a couple of tables with dudes. And a few dudes at the bar. Then there were all dudes at the sidewalk tables. There was pretty much zero interaction between males and females. I will say that last time I would not have fucked 99% of the chicks who were in Sosua. This time I would definitely hit 90% of the ones that I have seen. I guess it is the ebb and flow. Best to come on the weekend.
I noticed one chick standing in front of me with her back to me as she decided to walk off. I saw her shape and said where the hell do you think you are going? (This was well after the chick in the gray that I posted about before came to give me her number.) She said that she was going to look for her friend. I said fuck your friend. You stay right here. She stood there talking until a guy who was occupying the other seat at the table got up and left with friends. I told her to sit down. She said she was from Santo Domingo and had just arrived to make some money for the weekend. She spoke damn good English (to me) but I guess she never realized that I was speaking to her in Spanish because she said sorry my English is not that good. I said well why the hell do you keep talking to me in English when I have been talking in Spanish the whole time? Me and this chick had some chemistry going so after about an hour I asked her if she wanted something to drink. She ordered some lemonade.
We talked for at least another hour then I decided to start negotiations. I got another drink and she ordered a Cuba libre as well. She said that she would take 3000 for the night. I laughed and said no way. I told her that I would give her 2000. She went to 2500. Still no way. I stuck to 2000. She said well how about 2000 and a tip? I said no tip. Only 2000. Your tip will be me calling you next time I am in Santo Domingo. Then she said 2000 and you buy me dinner. I told her that I was already full from Rocky's and I would not buy her cheese to go on a Whopper. She said but I will treat you really good. I said well how about treating me bad for 1500 all night? She started laughing. I asked her how much money she had in her purse because I did not know if I had enought to pay the bill. She said she had 300 pesos. I told her that she was lying and she handed me her purse inviting me to look in it. I asked for the bill and it was 550 pesos for 4 Cuba Libres, 1 lemonade, and 1 unauthorized soda. I pointed it out to the waitress and she said she didn't know how the soda got on there because she knew I did not order one. So the total was 500. I gave her 550 and me and my girl walked to the car.
I drove back to the room to get more money so I could get this chick some Terra Linda pizza that she wanted. We got to Terra Linda at 10:38 and the guy said the kitchen was closed. Well what time do you close? 11 pm. So how the hell is the kitchen closed? Dominican logic. We went to NY Pizza and they were not going to make anything else either. The girl said that because of the early closing time of the bars, they close early too. So she ordered 2 slices of pizza that were already made and a large juice. It was 300 pesos. I looked at the receipt and saw 100 pesos for a large juice and started cussing. I said this is not a fucking large. And I got this same size juice this morning in Santo Domingo for 50 pesos. My girl started laughing. She said yeah in Sosua they rip you off because of the tourists.
We went back to the room. She smoked some weed. And she made me remember that ass!
Mr Enternational
10-01-16, 18:08
I forgot to mention about the non-New York guy that drove up in a golf cart, walked into the cajun restaurant, and caused a scene before getting back into the golf cart and driving off while still yelling. People like this are ruining Sosua.
We went back to the room. She smoked some weed. And she made me remember that ass!Thanks for the update brother!
Tempoecorto
10-02-16, 02:48
Using the hand brake saves your clutch lining, no matter how good you are. Statistics show that people who drive stick shifts get 32% more pussy.Lovely statistics! As the saying goes, lies, damn lies and statistics! LOL.
I have heard the story about clutch lining but never had to worry about it and, no handbrakes for me. It is playing with right and left foot but have always driven manuals. Lot more fun.
Tempoecorto
10-02-16, 02:56
I think the only Texas you have visited is in your imagination.
Are you sure you are from Texas, Pollack? LOL.
SavePros321
10-02-16, 15:55
I wanted to check out Sosua since last time I was here it was a Tuesday and it looked like the place had gone to shit. Since it was Friday I guess it did a 180 turn. My regular hotel had a spot open so I threw my bags into the room then went to Rocky's to get some ribs. Good report Mr. E.
Mr Enternational
10-02-16, 17:02
I can't take this rude ass Dominican shit. I am at Texaco to fill up before going to Santo Domingo. I am waiting behind a motorbike for my turn. Why does another guy on a motorbike go in front of my car like he is supposed to be served next? The guy pumping the gas straightened him out before I did.
I can't take this rude ass Dominican shit. I am at Texaco to fill up before going to Santo Domingo. I am waiting behind a motorbike for my turn. Why does another guy on a motorbike go in front of my car like he is supposed to be served next? The guy pumping the gas straightened him out before I did.Mr. ENT: I am surprised that you did not go to Bailey's for Pizza. They have both thin and thick crust options. Very good, IMO. Usually open until 10-11 on weekdays and sometime until midnight on weekends or whenever there are many customers.
Their Pina Coladas are also quite good. As are the ones at a few of the better restaurants on Playa de Sosua, as I am sure you know better than me ?
Enjoy. Have fun. Seeing on the news now that there is a hurricane going to hit Haiti in the next 24-48 hours. Stay safe!
I can't take this rude ass Dominican shit. I am at Texaco to fill up before going to Santo Domingo. I am waiting behind a motorbike for my turn. Why does another guy on a motorbike go in front of my car like he is supposed to be served next? The guy pumping the gas straightened him out before I did.I would suggest that you do not go to southern Italy.
Quagmire1974
10-02-16, 22:06
I'm here now sitting in front of the Cajun place. Just started pouring raining. And this fine mf from Santo Domingo just came over and forced me to take her number. (Oakie do not look. That is too much woman for you. I might have to pass her off to Old Kool.)Gorgeous ass on that chica. Give us the details if you plow her.
Thanks for this usefull post. I thought to go in November for two weeks but I changed. I don, t like to start my night earlier and under time pressure in holiday. And hunting only in three possible locations (Merengue / Classico, City Lights, Bourbon) during several days is boring.
Didn't run into any of my usual suspects while roaming around. Wrx. Mr. E. Where you at, my dudes? Haven't seen King Kong in a minute either.
FAQ's as of this trip.
Is Sosua shut down? No.
Hungry hoes got to eat, babies need pampers, sick grandmas need medicine, and bitches need Iphones and Galaxies.
Is it different from the last time you were there? Yes.
It's been different every time I've gone for the last 5 years, though. The the vibe in the air is really different. I used feel welcome when I walked around. Now I kinda just feel "tolerated".
Can you still find some pussy on the street? Yes, they are still walking around, just not on the strip for the main 2 blocks between Classico and Rumba.
You got to walk around Dr Rosen, New Garden, the ice cream shop, the Orange store, New York Pizza, Morua Mai, and the beach. But still plenty out there.
Do I need to pipeline with Tagged or DC before I go? No.
You can still find plenty of chicas when you get there.
Should you gather chicks numbers for Whatsapp? Yes.
You never know when you won't find someone on the street that you want, and you'll need to call someone over. And they WILL come over.
Are chicks really going to jail? Yes.
500 pesos and overnight in jail if they're caught.
Rockys has a ribs and chicken buffet on Friday and Saturday. I forgot how much it costs. But it was reasonable.
Did you see my favorita on the street / in the club / in the casino? Yes.
I saw her with dick in her mouth. Come on dudes. It's not your girl, it's just your turn! On another board I read, dudes be on that shit posting pics of girls and asking if anyone has seen them. Translation. They sending that cash, and want to make sure she's being loyal. Dem hoes ain't loyal!
I'm not putting anyone on blast, but I smashed this shorty a few years back. She was fresh off the boat, and I could tell. She was really shy, and I took mad pics and shit.
She's a pro now. Two or 3 times a day she changes her Whatsapp pic to one with her and a dude, or another with just him. Can anyone do the math? I saw her tonight, showed her the Whatsapp profile pic, like I do every time I see her, and her and her girlfriend just laughed. And I ask what I always ask. Donde tu novio. And she says what she always says. Solo mi amigo. And then she laughs again and asks if I want to blow her back out and take more pictures and videos.
What did everyone do after Classico and Merengue close? Go to the casino or go home.
Be careful using that strategy. The choice girls are picked early, and gone. They know there is point in rushing to come back to the strip. The only ones left going to the casino are ones you probably don't want, or are going to have a problem with.
Do I really need to start my night earlier? Yes.
That includes me. I used to take a nap and wake up around 9, go get dinner around 10 ish, be done by 11, and then start thinking about what or who I was going to do. Can't do that anymore. Got to start your night earlier.
Is sosua dead? No.
It's not dying. It's changing. You need to change too.
Final analysis. I made up my mind on this trip to start moving around. As uncomfortable as it is. Went to Santiago, tried out Passions. That joint is on some next level shit compared to the one in Sosua. Hit a few other spots. You got to come out of your comfort zone! If not, you'll be stuck with Sosua gives you. If you want to know what that's going to be like. Well. Just think about shopping at Walmart! Pic attached. Some of these mofos acting like they're doing YOU a favor!
Mr Enternational
10-03-16, 23:28
Thanks for this usefull post. I thought to go in November for two weeks but I changed. I don, t like to start my night earlier and under time pressure in holiday. And hunting only in three possible locations (Merengue / Classico, City Lights, Bourbon) during several days is boring.First, as Manizales reported, the curfew in Sosua will be abolished in I think 5 days from now and the bars or whatever will be back to the hours they kept before. Second, I don't know how big you expected Sosua to be. It is no Pattaya nor Angeles City. Third, there may be only 3 places to hunt (if that is what you want to call it), but you will see all the same chicks going from place to place looking for a trick. Sosua is a freelance market. Fourth, don't know how many chicks you were planning on fucking while there, but regardless of how many places there were to get chicks, you would never be able to fuck them all. So not sure why it would matter how many places you could pick up chicks from.
Mr Enternational
10-04-16, 01:03
Saturday night the police were riding around in an unmarked Toyota Previa jumping out and grabbing chicks and throwing them in the van. It looked like a kidnapping scene from a movie. Right before heading back to go to sleep I caught a great video clip of them in action. It was hilarious. There were two girls. One of the girls was fighting the cop. They were all on my car when it appeared the girl's shirt came down and her titties were hanging out. Eventually the girls got away and were last seen running down the sidewalk. Here are some screen shots from the video in no particular order.
Saturday night the police were riding around in an unmarked Toyota Previa jumping out and grabbing chicks and throwing them in the van. It looked like a kidnapping scene from a movie. Right before heading back to go to sleep I caught a great video clip of them in action. It was hilarious. There were two girls. One of the girls was fighting the cop. They were all on my car when it appeared the girl's shirt came down and her titties were hanging out. Eventually the girls got away and were last seen running down the sidewalk. Here are some screen shots from the video in no particular order.I just watched that video again because I thought the cops were dragging them to jail, but you said they got away. Good work though bro, you stayed with the video even when they were fighting on your car.
I haven't been to the DR since 2010 but am thinking of returning. It sounds like so much has changed though! Is La Passion still open? And is Sosua still the best place for indies or should I consider switching up and going to PP or Santiago? And Gogo, don't I still owe you a beer?
Cheers,
- 2 J.
Quick question for the board. What exactly are the girls doing that is illegal? What crime are they committing by walking down the street that the police are using to drag them to the precinct over night?
Quick question for the board. What exactly are the girls doing that is illegal? What crime are they committing by walking down the street that the police are using to drag them to the precinct over night?This is a wrong question, alike to many other wrong questions about how things are run in the third world countries. Police can detain anyone for up to two days.
I haven't been to the DR since 2010 but am thinking of returning. It sounds like so much has changed though! Is La Passion still open? And is Sosua still the best place for indies or should I consider switching up and going to PP or Santiago? And Gogo, don't I still owe you a beer?
Cheers,
- 2 J.Hell yeah you still owe me two beers! It's been a long time bro LOL. Glad you are back on the prowl. Sosua is nothing like when we were there in 2010 but it's worth a return visit every now and then for the beach and a few bars and bar girls. Keep me posted.
Parkinsons
10-05-16, 05:08
Quick question for the board. What exactly are the girls doing that is illegal? What crime are they committing by walking down the street that the police are using to drag them to the precinct over night?That's the question I have as well. Must be the rule that every woman has to be accompanied (by a man) to walk on Pedro Clisante? It was mentioned some time ago on the board. Also two chicks told me that last year and asked me to hold hands with them.
Thanks Mr E for coming with some solid posts.
Quagmire1974
10-05-16, 07:44
I haven't been to the DR since 2010 but am thinking of returning. It sounds like so much has changed though! Is La Passion still open? And is Sosua still the best place for indies or should I consider switching up and going to PP or Santiago? And Gogo, don't I still owe you a beer?
Cheers,
- 2 J.No, both Passions and CMP (Caribbean Men's Paradise) have been closed for a couple of years now. And the monger who used to frequent those establishments, David "Cuba Dave" Strecker, is still in jail in Costa Rica but goes on trial in November (the 10th, I've heard).
Mr Enternational
10-05-16, 10:52
Quick question for the board. What exactly are the girls doing that is illegal? What crime are they committing by walking down the street that the police are using to drag them to the precinct over night?Loitering. They do the same thing in Thailand. Where I live in Pattaya, they make the girls (and guys dressed as girls) pay $3 to get out. In Bangkok they make them pay $30 to get out.
Hell yeah you still owe me two beers! It's been a long time bro LOL. Glad you are back on the prowl. Sosua is nothing like when we were there in 2010 but it's worth a return visit every now and then for the beach and a few bars and bar girls. Keep me posted.Ha! I was doing some catch up reading last night and am shocked to see what is happening. In fact it seems like many destinations have had a shake up. What did you guys do to finally [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off the locals!?
It looks like BBs is still going strong and PP still has options. Plus, half of what I loved about Sosua was the beach, the pool at NG, and the laid back atmosphere. I didn't need a watch or my laptop, I just did what I wanted when I wanted. So perhaps there is still reason to return in Dec / Jan. But man I am going to miss La Passion!
I'll keep you posted and ALL yours beers will be on me!
- 2 J.
Edit: I see ISG has changed too. Code words? Well I am sure Jackson has his reasons.
No, both Passions and CMP (Caribbean Men's Paradise) have been closed for a couple of years now. And the monger who used to frequent those establishments, David "Cuba Dave" Strecker, is still in jail in Costa Rica but goes on trial in November (the 10th, I've heard).
What the what? I mean I can understand what went down with that other situation in Lima, but what did Cuba Dave really do? I heard that CR was clamping down a few years back but this is kind of alarming, and is seems solely motivated for political purposes. Regarding CMP I remember writing one of the first reports on it and recall that one of the owners was a retired cop. I figured they would last forever.
I am genuinely stunned, and second guessing whether I even want to visit anywhere in this hemisphere any more (I at least assume that the LOS, PI, and Indonesia are still safe and viable).
Wow. Thanks for catching me up.
but what did Cuba Dave really do? He let his alligator mouth overload his canary ass.
Quagmire1974
10-05-16, 17:49
What the what? I mean I can understand what went down with that other situation in Lima, but what did Cuba Dave really do? I heard that CR was clamping down a few years back but this is kind of alarming, and is seems solely motivated for political purposes. Regarding CMP I remember writing one of the first reports on it and recall that one of the owners was a retired cop. I figured they would last forever.
I am genuinely stunned, and second guessing whether I even want to visit anywhere in this hemisphere any more (I at least assume that the LOS, PI, and Indonesia are still safe and viable).
Wow. Thanks for catching me up.Just Google David Strecker or Cuba Dave Costa Rica and a whole shitload of links will pop up for you to read. Long story short, he was arrested in San Jose September 4, 2015 when he tried to board his return flight to the United States. Costa Rica has charged him with promoting prostitution through You Tube, his personal website, and Facebook (three separate charges). The trial begins in November.
First, as Manizales reported, the curfew in Sosua will be abolished in I think 5 days from now and the bars or whatever will be back to the hours they kept before. Second, I don't know how big you expected Sosua to be. It is no Pattaya nor Angeles City. Third, there may be only 3 places to hunt (if that is what you want to call it), but you will see all the same chicks going from place to place looking for a trick. Sosua is a freelance market. Fourth, don't know how many chicks you were planning on fucking while there, but regardless of how many places there were to get chicks, you would never be able to fuck them all. So not sure why it would matter how many places you could pick up chicks from.Curfew going to be relaxed but for the last 3 nights no tables on the sidewalk and the word is that is going to stay in effect, last night, Wednesday it looked like most of Haitians have been chased out, compared to my last visit in May and the strip very quiet in compared to last May.
The no tables on the sidewalk killed mayorista in medellin when instituted about 3 years ago and it never recovered to this day.
First, as Manizales reported, the curfew in Sosua will be abolished in I think 5 days from now and the bars or whatever will be back to the hours they kept before. Second, I don't know how big you expected Sosua to be. It is no Pattaya nor Angeles City. Third, there may be only 3 places to hunt (if that is what you want to call it), but you will see all the same chicks going from place to place looking for a trick. Sosua is a freelance market. Fourth, don't know how many chicks you were planning on fucking while there, but regardless of how many places there were to get chicks, you would never be able to fuck them all. So not sure why it would matter how many places you could pick up chicks from.I know Sosua. Since 2010 I was there every year, last time in February 2016. And I always loved the freelancer atmosphere in the town. Even last February it was not bad, but not like before: With LatinDrink closed there was a big dark hole in PC.
In Holiday I don, t want only to choose rapidly a chick and fuck her. I enjoyed in Sosua to have all the time of the world to decide. And I like movement of the chicas and the possibility to go around to observe a lot of chicas before choosing.
LatinDrink was great for that: It was big enough to go around and the chicas did the same. Rumba was not so good but similar. Now in Bourbon Bar chicas are sitting on tables and it too small to go around. In Merengue Bar you also can only go from one side to the other. City Lights I know only from passing by, I'm not sure if it is big enough so that there are a movement. And it was posted here that now there are no more chicas in the Haitian Embassy (Bar Central). In the streets the chicas can't walk a lot because of the Police. So I imagine that the atmosphere has changed a lot. Its a pity. Honestly I'm not sure if my decision to not go in November is good. I hope Sosua recovers and you can feel more the freelancer scene, perhaps so I go next year.
Manizales911
10-07-16, 16:54
Curfew going to be relaxed but for the last 3 nights no tables on the sidewalk and the word is that is going to stay in effect, last night, Wednesday it looked like most of Haitians have been chased out, compared to my last visit in May and the strip very quiet in compared to last May.
The no tables on the sidewalk killed mayorista in medellin when instituted about 3 years ago and it never recovered to this day.The no tables on the sidewalk deal was an agreed upon concession by the business owners in order to get the closing hours extended.
The no tables on the sidewalk deal was an agreed upon concession by the business owners in order to get the closing hours extended.The president is really behind this. The prez is going to get his way eventually. I just hope he knows what he's doing long term. We shall see said the blind man!
The Sue last weekend was a smooth ride. Curfew a
or not really didn't change too much for my style of dealing with this issue.
Some things I observed due to the change.
1. City Lights is the new Rumba and the new safe place for the girls on the street running from the police. I saw a decent crowd in there. Since the outside is so small and it's not located on a corner, it can never be Rumba post up material.
2. Since Classico closes at 2 the new spot is the casino. The casino charges you 200 pesos to get in. At the door they give you a chip and with that chip you are allowed to get one drink. Cubra Libre or a cerveza. I must say I really enjoyed the environment. This was a good hangout spot because everyone comes to the casino. I almost didn't go because I don't like after ones vibe. My boys and I decided to go there at the last moment we all had call back pussy that we could have fall back on. Since it was still early mostly everyone hit the casino. It was more like it and a DJ was set up in the back. There was enough room to create a dance floor and plenty of move around room. Some of my boys said they were getting high for prices. These cats were in their mid-twenties. I was hearing them say quotes like 4000 - 6000 pesos. In truth none of us paid any of these higher prices. I think the most one person paid was 3000 pesos. And she gave him the worst session.
3. The police work diligent in their work. No chica was spared if she was caught Slippin. They post it up on the outside and in the hallway of the casino. I watched as the captain instructed his officers to take chicas off if they didn't have a token showing that they were in the casino. A security guard stop our group and asked us to walk these very nice young ladies up to the club because they feared the police.
4. Chicken man talk to me for a second. He had a group of girls on his phone he was trying to pimp. He had some dimes. He wanted to show us them posted in a hotel. I asked him how much he said it was between you and the girl. I told him don't show me a car for sale if you can tell me
the price. He said Rumba will be back in about 2 to 3 weeks. My mind was like that's six months at least Dominican time.
5. Rumba should be happy they're closed anyway. The whole sidewalk is busted on that block. Ain't nobody going to walk in that dirt. Expecially headed to the club. The busted-up Curve alone kills the whole block on that side.
6. My man Olle that has the chicken spot headed toward Europa is sick. Very sick. Rumors are not good hope I see him soon.
The no tables on the sidewalk deal was an agreed upon concession by the business owners in order to get the closing hours extended.IMHO that was a poor deal, as early evening numbers looks to be way down on the strip, the ambiance on the street has been lost. I am biased about late hours though, as I always say if not in bed by midnight to home.
http://www.sosuanews.mobi/index.php?id=4599
http://www.sosuanews.mobi/index.php?id=4599According to the article table and chairs forbidden on the sidewalks because it is hindering the flow of families with children from walking? I arrive in Sosua on Monday and used to love to sit out on the sidewalk in front of the bar across the street from Rumbas in the afternoons and have a beer watching the Putas on parade coming in and out of Rumbas and strutting their stuff as they shuffled by. And know there's a curfew in Sosua, what the hell is that all about?
According to the article table and chairs forbidden on the sidewalks because it is hindering the flow of families with children from walking? I arrive in Sosua on Monday and used to love to sit out on the sidewalk in front of the bar across the street from Rumbas in the afternoons and have a beer watching the Putas on parade coming in and out of Rumbas and strutting their stuff as they shuffled by. And know there's a curfew in Sosua, what the hell is that all about?Defintiely no hindrance now for families walking with their kids, no tables, no chairs, and very few people on the street, but I still have not seen families with their kids walking on the street, maybe the persons behind the new laws can import a few families with kids for a photo-op and post the fotos in some travel magazines, I sure all the locals who have lost their jobs and businesses due to the new regs would be pleased to see fotos of the new sosua.
Mr Enternational
10-16-16, 18:09
According to the article table and chairs forbidden on the sidewalks because it is hindering the flow of families with children from walking? I arrive in Sosua on Monday and used to love to sit out on the sidewalk in front of the bar across the street from Rumbas You can still do that. It is just that now you will have to sit on the actual sidewalk.
Mr Enternational
10-16-16, 18:11
Defintiely no hindrance now for families walking with their kids, no tables, no chairs, and very few people on the street, but I still have not seen families with their kids walking on the street, I definitely saw some when I was there a couple of weeks ago. Granted there were not enough to warrant removing tables and chairs for though.
You can still do that. It is just that now you will have to sit on the actual sidewalk.I think I will do that, however I will bring a beach chair.
Parkinsons
10-16-16, 23:12
We arrived in Sosua on a Friday afternoon. It was the last day before they relaxed the closing times. Went to Classicos a little before closing, it was packed wall to wall with girls. Chatted with a beauty from Puerto Plata, she asked for 4000 pesos for TLN and No BBBJ. I smiled and moved on, there are 999 other girls more willing and able. After Classicos closed I did my usual post-up across the street. Not a lot of girls were standing around compared to the past, for fear of loitering. I did find a good one, agreed to 2000 pesos for TLN.
The next day, Saturday just took it slow on Sosua beach. In late afternoon I picked up a girl walking outside of New Garden and took her back for 1500ST. At night my boy and I happened to walk by a bar down a deserted side street cul de sac. Cute bar girls beckoned us to go in. Two young bar girls were very flirtatious, no doubt their job was to get us to buy drinks -- but no complaints from me, as they took turns grinding on me to dembow music, and I alternatively danced bachata with them. My boy though, was smitten by the very pretty but conservatively dressed and demeanored bar manager. She spoke English to him and gave him that "normal girl" vibe. A very fun couple of hours later it was closing time. My two girls wanted to tag team me TLN for 3000 pesos each. Not being a big believer in successful threesomes, I countered 2500 one at a time over two separate nights. They told me to go back to my hotel while they cleaned up and closed out. One of them would hit me up as soon as they were done. Well 30 minutes went by and I didn't get any word. There are never any "must have" girls for me, I was actually not disappointed at all. Headed out to the casino and it was happening. Grownman did a very good description of the place. There were a lot of girls there and the environment was more conducive to talk with them because we weren't packed like sardines and the music was not deafeningly loud. Pretty soon found a Santiago girl I liked, negotiated 3000 pesos TLN and were off to the races.
The next day, Sunday we drove to nearby towns like Rio San Juan and Cabarete. At night my boy was wifed up with the bar manager girl. I hit Classicos and got me a nice Santo Domingo girl for 3000 for TLN.
In conclusion, on the surface Sosua is a sad sight. Businesses closed left and right, abandoned buildings and messed up sidewalks. Most of the restaurants were swatting-flies kind of slow (except Bourbon Street). How do anti-puta restrictions help with reviving the town? Unless they want to destroy it completely and build it fresh from the ground up, like Dresden and Hiroshima? We stayed at Hotel BellaMar, formerly Sosua Bay, twin property to Victorian House. One wing of the hotel was completely shut down. The security guard told me the whole place might not survive past Christmas. I saw the Toyota Previa Mr. E wrote about. First you see chicas running towards and past you, sort of panicking. Then you see the dark van with the headlights off and sliding door open, rolling silently like the grim reaper on wheels. Despite all the negativity, girls are still there and I was still able to have very good sessions. Girls are still sweet and GFE could be had.
We arrived in Sosua on a Friday afternoon. It was the last day before they relaxed the closing times. Went to Classicos a little before closing, it was packed wall to wall with girls. Chatted with a beauty from Puerto Plata, she asked for 4000 pesos for TLN and No BBBJ. I smiled and moved on, there are 999 other girls more willing and able. After Classicos closed I did my usual post-up across the street. Not a lot of girls were standing around compared to the past, for fear of loitering. I did find a good one, agreed to 2000 pesos for TLN.
The next day, Saturday just took it slow on Sosua beach. In late afternoon I picked up . Girls are still sweet and GFE could be had.Excellent report!
Arrived yesterday afternoon in town and after getting my room ready and stocked with food and beverages I took a stroll down the Strip.
Parts of the strip looked like something out of a war zone!
With the interior demolition work being done inside the former Latinos and the boarded up and deserted Rumbas I couldn't believe what I saw.
And across the street the Bermuda Bar and Cigar place were abandoned. Nobody sitting in chairs on the sidewalks gawking at the Ladies.
And Central Bar in the evening devoid of throngs of Haitians. Well at least the beach was the same!
I spent 2 days in Sosua. Mondays in Sosua is better then any where else I know. I really miss the parade to Rumbas but things have adjusted. There are plenty of girls hiding in the creases. Monday night Merengue bar was packed. The girls in Sosua during the week days are the more hardcore devoted putas. These girls are more likely to be your scammers. Working the streets is there life. Never the less there is always something to put a smile on your face.
The high light of my trip was hooking up with my 1st DR chica. I met her in Punta Cuna and followed her to SD. We spent the night together and had incredible sex. She loves to come. Her passion is what got me turned out in DR. She came so many time I lost track. You guys know what is like when you have been busting nuts in Sosua. There is nothing left in the gun. Her passion got me over the hump. YEEEEEEEZ.
Sosua is doing find there are still plenty guys going even early in the week. I saw or noticed more Europeans. We walk the same streets have many of the same girls but have no interaction.
For a while I have been operating like a housecat. Barely going out at night. If I'm out during the day, I may stop by a few places to talk to some of my friends and acquaintances. Some are expats, and others are guys back for another vacation. This particular weekend I decided to come out and hit the strip. Friday around 6 pm the street was closed to vehicular traffic. A stage had been erected on Pedro Clisante a few feet west of Jolly Rogers restaurant. Later in the evening some musicians were performing. On this particular Friday night, I was curious as hell on what it was going to be like, because I haven't been out past 10 pm in a long while.
I had a good nap earlier in the evening, so I was fresh when I left my spot about 1145 to hit the strip. I started off parking my scooter over by the bar diagonally across from Rockys (the front section of Rockys, I call THE OFFICE) Then I navigated around the corner on foot. Looked inside Bourbon Street, which had a few tables and the bar occupied with chicas and men. Together and / or separated. Kept walking past the German restaurant, and as usual it was filled with white guys and a few Haitianas. I get some of my meals from The german restaurant. I think it's still called Schlemmers, although I also noticed a board above outside saying Central.
A lot of the chicas (mostly Haitian) used to post up in the bar next door to Schlemmer ( Bar Central ) but now they freely hang out mostly in and around Schlemmers. I think who ever operates Bar Central next door, stopped or significantly slowed down the practice of allowing the chicas to hang out in the bar, especially unescorted. With the tables and chairs no longer allowed to be out front most places east of Classico, there is no place for the chicas to go. And they don't seem to want them standing out front of the bar either.
I ended up posting up in front of the window of Merenge bar, but outside on the sidewalk. Watched the parade of women all over the place. The guys I was with observing the scene, noticed that there was something unique about this night. Chicas were walking freely and not being chased. Standing nearby were two Cestur / tourist police officers, but they werent in chase mode. They seemed to be there just in case a disturbance occurred. Now mind you, the street is closed at this time, and everybody is enjoying walking around with no drama and no hassles.
I would say, the only reason it was like that, is because of the event going on down the street. Along with the vendors that had setups of their goods on the street, near the stage. I guess it would look bad for regular folks down there dining in and near Jolly Rogers, having to watch the typical silly cat and mouse game that goes on with the chicas and the police. So apparently the police suspended chica chasing for Friday night. Saturday night though LMAO, it was on like popcorn. Waves of chicas running from one end of the block to another. Police in full swing chasing chicas. Sneaking up on them like alligators or tigers, and then grabbing an arm and start hauling their prey away.
Me and the guys I was standing with, all had several girlfriends for 30 second clips. Girls running , and stopping long enough to postup next to us like were together, and then runoff the moment the coast was clear. Funny shit. You would think they would be trying to see if we were potential clients, but instead they seemed to be more preoccupied with getting away from the police. I kinda know why. Often while on the run, chicas still get grabbed even if they try to act like they are with someone. The chicas are easy targets, because the main ones they are going after are the Haitianas. And perhaps, the reason some of these chicas don't even bother giving us a pitch is because they are really looking for business from the white guys they are used to being spoiled by. Enough assume were not interested in getting with them. But its not true. I have a few haitian regulars.
Typically, white guys seems to do the most of the wining and dining with the haitian chicas, and I wouldn't be surprised if they pay them more too. Plus a lot of those guys don't seem to discriminate with looks. Some of them chicks be looking kinda rough. But certain guys overlook that and treat them like queens. Meanwhile guys like myself, don't do all of that wining and dining. As Grownman reported, I too have heard rumors that Rumba should be opening up very soon. One individual claimed he heard Rumba may open this Wednesday. Of course for me, after all of the prior incorrect rumors, I'll just wait and see.
I stayed out until 0320 Friday night, and watched everything close. I observed around 2 ish, couples starting to leave Classicos to handle their business. Then around 3, I'm watching everybody. The stragglers looking for clients, hustlers, and motos. When it comes to chicas, one can't assume that just because she doesn't have a date after the club shuts down, that she never had a client all day. Many chicas are often continuing their work when you think they must have struck out scoring a client. Some observant guys can tell you, they saw chicas with clients earlier in the day or night, watched them come back to the club, but just didn't get a client upon closing. But it doesn't mean she hadn't made money all day.
Moreover, they still have the casino to go to as another option. I met a chica Friday night. She was sort of a newbie to the scene. She must have been at least 2 inches taller than I was. But I thought she was cute. I didn't pull the trigger, but took her number. I saw her Saturday at the beach, and briefly talked to her. But this time she was with her teacher. A vet chica I got with maybe 5 yrs ago when I stayed at Sosua Suites. I don't recall having a great time with her at all, but I do remember her begging me for a propina and busting out with an attitude when I refused. I met her in Rumba, and got caught up watching her move her body to the music. But after she was in my spot, she was mostly about business. She was part of my learning curve back then.
Well after seeing my young tall chica with her teacher, I was pretty convinced that her barracuda teacher had likely groomed her on what to do, and how to handle clients. I spent my day on the beach, at my buddys spot THE TREE HOUSE. Good music, decent food, and ambiance.
Later that night, I stopped in Bourbon street, satt way in the back. The young tall chica and her teacher was on patrol on the sidewalk walking back and forth like extras in a movie. Which is how I describe chicas out on the street. They look just like extras in a movie. They walk in one direction for lets say a 1-200 ft, and within seconds or minutes they are walking back in the opposite direction, it's comical.
More comical is watching how they act when they set their sights on a regular client, and they try to post up near him, often acting like they don't see him. And then just turn around and start staring at him, trying to get his attention. Same thing happens with chicas trying to score a client. Theyll stand in front of you with their back to you, and turn around to see if you are looking. Sometimes looking at you like they have squirrel eyes. (eyes on the side of their heads). Thats comical as well.
Anyway, while sitting in Bourbon Street, both of these chicas, teacher and student are scoping me from the sidewalk. The teacher is trying to help bag her young student that elusive slippery client sitting in the back of the restaurant. I pretend like I don't see them. They re-position themselves, in my direct line of sight. But I play the same game they do when they act like they don't see you. Chicas always see you. They got eight sets of eyes. They know when your coming and going. A chica has great vision when she chooses to see you, and acknowledge your presence.
Other times, she knows how to walk right past you, acting like you don't even exist. My studies of them, I use the same shit on them. About 145 I'm down by the open window where folks order fast food, and who do I see creeping up on me? The tall young chica with a few other chicas. This time without her teacher. This time, I'm thinking of possibly taking home some juice for the night. I haven't done that in a while. I usually stick to my regulars. But this time I'm thinking of something new. It helped a lot that her barracuda teacher wasnt around. So I pulled her aside and worked out a price for the rest of the night. She wanted 3000 until 8, and I immediately complained. She immediately dropped to 2000 without any input from me. I jumped on it.
I figured, even if I had a bad session, 2000 until even 3 or 4 was cool. And where was this chica going to go at that hour? I soon found out. I told her to meet me back here at the window at 215 am. I will text you too. I was still hanging with one of the cats that was out there scoping the scene. Him and I stood near the window checking out folks hanging across the street at the liquor store. A haitian chica I know had grabbed a bottle and was threatening a haitian dude with it. It was ok, until he crossed the street and came near me, while I'm straddling my scooter.
Last thing I need is this chica throwing this bottle and cracking the wrong head. Anyway, 215 is here, and no chica. I texted her once, no response. Parted company with my buddy and went home. About 0305 I get a whatsapp text from the chica saying "Hi, SONY (yes SONY, was supposed to be sorry ) Yo casino " The next afternoon around 3 pm I get a regular text. "disculpa anoche tenia problemas con mi amiga en casino" I don't know if that message was learned as part of her training, but she definitely knew what she was doing. My guess is, she had contacted her teacher or any of the other chicas in her circle, and told them about the arrangement she had made with me. They probably told her to can that idea. And see what you can pull in the casino.
Actually it was a win / win for me, because I didn't really care one way or the other if we hooked up I was dipping into the unknown anyway, and knew going in who her teacher / mentor was, and very well could have dodged some drama. Like an upsell, or a I got to leave early because my baby excuse. She did me a favor. Of course as expected, she was blowing up my phone trying to get me back on track. Unfortunately for her, she lost a potential client as I won't be doing any business with her any time soon.
Also Sat night, a ex regular that got on my bad side was trying to entice me for business. I ignored her ass, and had her on ignore months ago since our incident when she came to my spot pregnant. But that's another story. I have zero tolerance for BS. Often a 1 strike rule. You fuck up one time, and that's your ass. That dummy blew it with a good customer. Now she expects (like a lot of females) for a man to be horny and with zero standards or principles. If she was thinking that, I made sure she knew that she fucked up.
Unfortunately, a dude can't teach any of these females lessons or make them have regrets. There will always be another customer who will pick up the slack, and sustain them. Enough women are like cats, many dont appear to associate discipline or correction with their behavior. So they'll keep doing the same thing over and over, but try to be more covert. Their strength or power is in the power we give them, or the fact that men are not united on any level to nip shit in the bud collectively. Its every man for himself.
This report is based on my observations of this establishment during the middle of the day today and my friends observations last Friday night. This place is located at the end of the access road for the gated entrance to the Ocean Village complex off the main highway in Sosua. It is an eating place / bar and complex with girls on-site for take out. In talking with one of the patrons today I was informed that there is a dormitory / apartment behind the eating / drinking area where approximately 15 girls live on-site which I did see. I was also told the owner was Russian and had upwards of another fifty plus girls available to work at the establishment. When I was there today there were about 12 girls on-site eating lunch who came by and said Hello, to me and my friend. My friend told me that on Saturday night all the girls came up to the table he was at with two other friends and the girls introduced themselves as well. All of the girls seemed pleasant enough and well mannered. According to the patron I spoke with today they have a set pricing menu. Take out of the girl for four hours $ 100 USD or twenty four hours $ 150 USD. When I asked if this was negotiable he said it was not! In regards to the girls, well in my opinion I was not really impressed with the line-up I saw today and my friend told me they looked a lot better on Friday night when they were dressed up with their make-up on. Interesting place which I had never heard of and had to see it with my own eyes. Perhaps somebody else who has been there might have better information on this place then I do.
For a while I have been operating like a housecat. Barely going out at night. If I'm out during the day, I may stop by a few places to talk to some of my friends and acquaintances. Some are expats, and others are guys back for another vacation. This particular weekend I decided to come out and hit the strip. Friday around 6 pm the street was closed to vehicular traffic. A stage had been erected on Pedro Clisante a few feet west of Jolly Rogers restaurant. Later in the evening some musicians were performing. On this particular Friday night, I was curious as hell on what it was going to be like, because I haven't been out past 10 pm in a long while.
I had a good nap earlier in the evening, so I was fresh when I left my spot about 1145 to hit the strip. I started off parking my scooter over by the bar diagonally across from Rockys (the front section of Rockys, I call THE OFFICE) Then I navigated around the corner on foot. Looked inside Bourbon Street, which had a few tables and the bar occupied with chicas and men. Together and / or separated. Kept walking past the German restaurant, and as usual it was filled with white guys and a few Haitianas. I get some of my meals from The german restaurant. I think it's still called Schlemmers, although I also noticed a board above outside saying Central.
A lot of the chicas (mostly Haitian) used to post up in the bar next door to Schlemmer ( Bar Central ) but now they freely hang out mostly in and around Schlemmers. I think who ever operates Bar Central next door, stopped or significantly slowed down the practice of allowing the chicas to hang out in the bar, especially unescorted. With the tables and chairs no longer allowed to be out front most places east of Classico, there is no place for the chicas to go. And they don't seem to want them standing out front of the bar either.
I ended up posting up in front of the window of Merenge bar, but outside on the sidewalk. Watched the parade of women all over the place. The guys I was with observing the scene, noticed that there was something unique about this night. Chicas were walking freely and not being chased. Standing nearby were two Cestur / tourist police officers, but they werent in chase mode. They seemed to be there just in case a disturbance occurred. Now mind you, the street is closed at this time, and everybody is enjoying walking around with no drama and no hassles.
I would say, the only reason it was like that, is because of the event going on down the street. Along with the vendors that had setups of their goods on the street, near the stage. I guess it would look bad for regular folks down there dining in and near Jolly Rogers, having to watch the typical silly cat and mouse game that goes on with the chicas and the police. So apparently the police suspended chica chasing for Friday night. Saturday night though LMAO, it was on like popcorn. Waves of chicas running from one end of the block to another. Police in full swing chasing chicas. Sneaking up on them like alligators or tigers, and then grabbing an arm and start hauling their prey away.
Me and the guys I was standing with, all had several girlfriends for 30 second clips. Girls running , and stopping long enough to postup next to us like were together, and then runoff the moment the coast was clear. Funny shit. You would think they would be trying to see if we were potential clients, but instead they seemed to be more preoccupied with getting away from the police. I kinda know why. Often while on the run, chicas still get grabbed even if they try to act like they are with someone. The chicas are easy targets, because the main ones they are going after are the Haitianas. And perhaps, the reason some of these chicas don't even bother giving us a pitch is because they are really looking for business from the white guys they are used to being spoiled by. Enough assume were not interested in getting with them. But its not true. I have a few haitian regulars.
Typically, white guys seems to do the most of the wining and dining with the haitian chicas, and I wouldn't be surprised if they pay them more too. Plus a lot of those guys don't seem to discriminate with looks. Some of them chicks be looking kinda rough. But certain guys overlook that and treat them like queens. Meanwhile guys like myself, don't do all of that wining and dining. As Grownman reported, I too have heard rumors that Rumba should be opening up very soon. One individual claimed he heard Rumba may open this Wednesday. Of course for me, after all of the prior incorrect rumors, I'll just wait and see.
I stayed out until 0320 Friday night, and watched everything close. I observed around 2 ish, couples starting to leave Classicos to handle their business. Then around 3, I'm watching everybody. The stragglers looking for clients, hustlers, and motos. When it comes to chicas, one can't assume that just because she doesn't have a date after the club shuts down, that she never had a client all day. Many chicas are often continuing their work when you think they must have struck out scoring a client. Some observant guys can tell you, they saw chicas with clients earlier in the day or night, watched them come back to the club, but just didn't get a client upon closing. But it doesn't mean she hadn't made money all day.
Moreover, they still have the casino to go to as another option. I met a chica Friday night. She was sort of a newbie to the scene. She must have been at least 2 inches taller than I was. But I thought she was cute. I didn't pull the trigger, but took her number. I saw her Saturday at the beach, and briefly talked to her. But this time she was with her teacher. A vet chica I got with maybe 5 yrs ago when I stayed at Sosua Suites. I don't recall having a great time with her at all, but I do remember her begging me for a propina and busting out with an attitude when I refused. I met her in Rumba, and got caught up watching her move her body to the music. But after she was in my spot, she was mostly about business. She was part of my learning curve back then.
Well after seeing my young tall chica with her teacher, I was pretty convinced that her barracuda teacher had likely groomed her on what to do, and how to handle clients. I spent my day on the beach, at my buddys spot THE TREE HOUSE. Good music, decent food, and ambiance.
Later that night, I stopped in Bourbon street, satt way in the back. The young tall chica and her teacher was on patrol on the sidewalk walking back and forth like extras in a movie. Which is how I describe chicas out on the street. They look just like extras in a movie. They walk in one direction for lets say a 1-200 ft, and within seconds or minutes they are walking back in the opposite direction, it's comical.
More comical is watching how they act when they set their sights on a regular client, and they try to post up near him, often acting like they don't see him. And then just turn around and start staring at him, trying to get his attention. Same thing happens with chicas trying to score a client. Theyll stand in front of you with their back to you, and turn around to see if you are looking. Sometimes looking at you like they have squirrel eyes. (eyes on the side of their heads). Thats comical as well.
Anyway, while sitting in Bourbon Street, both of these chicas, teacher and student are scoping me from the sidewalk. The teacher is trying to help bag her young student that elusive slippery client sitting in the back of the restaurant. I pretend like I don't see them. They re-position themselves, in my direct line of sight. But I play the same game they do when they act like they don't see you. Chicas always see you. They got eight sets of eyes. They know when your coming and going. A chica has great vision when she chooses to see you, and acknowledge your presence.
Other times, she knows how to walk right past you, acting like you don't even exist. My studies of them, I use the same shit on them. About 145 I'm down by the open window where folks order fast food, and who do I see creeping up on me? The tall young chica with a few other chicas. This time without her teacher. This time, I'm thinking of possibly taking home some juice for the night. I haven't done that in a while. I usually stick to my regulars. But this time I'm thinking of something new. It helped a lot that her barracuda teacher wasnt around. So I pulled her aside and worked out a price for the rest of the night. She wanted 3000 until 8, and I immediately complained. She immediately dropped to 2000 without any input from me. I jumped on it.
I figured, even if I had a bad session, 2000 until even 3 or 4 was cool. And where was this chica going to go at that hour? I soon found out. I told her to meet me back here at the window at 215 am. I will text you too. I was still hanging with one of the cats that was out there scoping the scene. Him and I stood near the window checking out folks hanging across the street at the liquor store. A haitian chica I know had grabbed a bottle and was threatening a haitian dude with it. It was ok, until he crossed the street and came near me, while I'm straddling my scooter.
Last thing I need is this chica throwing this bottle and cracking the wrong head. Anyway, 215 is here, and no chica. I texted her once, no response. Parted company with my buddy and went home. About 0305 I get a whatsapp text from the chica saying "Hi, SONY (yes SONY, was supposed to be sorry ) Yo casino " The next afternoon around 3 pm I get a regular text. "disculpa anoche tenia problemas con mi amiga en casino" I don't know if that message was learned as part of her training, but she definitely knew what she was doing. My guess is, she had contacted her teacher or any of the other chicas in her circle, and told them about the arrangement she had made with me. They probably told her to can that idea. And see what you can pull in the casino.
Actually it was a win / win for me, because I didn't really care one way or the other if we hooked up I was dipping into the unknown anyway, and knew going in who her teacher / mentor was, and very well could have dodged some drama. Like an upsell, or a I got to leave early because my baby excuse. She did me a favor. Of course as expected, she was blowing up my phone trying to get me back on track. Unfortunately for her, she lost a potential client as I won't be doing any business with her any time soon.
Also Sat night, a ex regular that got on my bad side was trying to entice me for business. I ignored her ass, and had her on ignore months ago since our incident when she came to my spot pregnant. But that's another story. I have zero tolerance for BS. Often a 1 strike rule. You fuck up one time, and that's your ass. That dummy blew it with a good customer. Now she expects (like a lot of females) for a man to be horny and with zero standards or principles. If she was thinking that, I made sure she knew that she fucked up.
Unfortunately, a dude can't teach any of these females lessons or make them have regrets. There will always be another customer who will pick up the slack, and sustain them. Enough women are like cats, many dont appear to associate discipline or correction with their behavior. So they'll keep doing the same thing over and over, but try to be more covert. Their strength or power is in the power we give them, or the fact that men are not united on any level to nip shit in the bud collectively. Its every man for himself.Executive summary: On a night out in Sosua, I encountered a girl whom I found attractive and offered her $38 to attend a 4-hour seminar in my hotel room. She initially accepted, but then stood me up and it later transpired that she had gone to the casino instead. They never learn, do they?
SavePros321
10-25-16, 00:39
About 145 I'm down by the open window where folks order fast food, and who do I see creeping up on me? The tall young chica with a few other chicas. This time without her teacher. This time, I'm thinking of possibly taking home some juice for the night. I haven't done that in a while. I usually stick to my regulars. But this time I'm thinking of something new. It helped a lot that her barracuda teacher wasnt around. So I pulled her aside and worked out a price for the rest of the night. She wanted 3000 until 8, and I immediately complained. She immediately dropped to 2000 without any input from me. I jumped on it.
I figured, even if I had a bad session, 2000 until even 3 or 4 was cool. And where was this chica going to go at that hour? I soon found out. I told her to meet me back here at the window at 215 am. I will text you too. I was still hanging with one of the cats that was out there scoping the scene. Him and I stood near the window checking out folks hanging across the street at the liquor store.
Anyway, 215 is here, and no chica. I texted her once, no response. Parted company with my buddy and went home. About 0305 I get a whatsapp text from the chica saying "Hi, SONY (yes SONY, was supposed to be sorry ) Yo casino " The next afternoon around 3 pm I get a regular text. "disculpa anoche tenia problemas con mi amiga en casino" I don't know if that message was learned as part of her training, but she definitely knew what she was doing. My guess is, she had contacted her teacher or any of the other chicas in her circle, and told them about the arrangement she had made with me. They probably told her to can that idea. And see what you can pull in the casino.
I know you live there, so it probably doesn't matter to you one way or the other, but once she dropped down to 2000 DOP I would have closed the deal and took her back to my place. When I spot a newbie on the scene that hasn't had a chance to get too spoiled or jaded by the game, I pounce on that shit right then and there. You waited too long and, yes, more than likely she told her girls she agreed to 2000 TLN and they told her "ESTAS LOCA?"
What were you expecting her to do between 0145 and 0215 in the morning while waiting on you to finish shooting the breeze with the boys?
You were right not to give her a second chance though. That bullshit casino excuse she gave you was a big "FUCK YOU" in my book.
Mr Enternational
10-25-16, 03:03
You were right not to give her a second chance though. That bullshit casino excuse she gave you was a big "FUCK YOU" in my book.Fuck that. When I got that excuse and apology, I would have told her that she could come right now for 1000. Plus it was daytime so she would not be itching to leave so quickly. The shit is chess.
Fuck that. When I got that excuse and apology, I would have told her that she could come right now for 1000. Plus it was daytime so she would not be itching to leave so quickly. The shit is chess.Mr E AKA The Chess Master!
I know you live there, so it probably doesn't matter to you one way or the other, but once she dropped down to 2000 DOP I would have closed the deal and took her back to my place. When I spot a newbie on the scene that hasn't had a chance to get too spoiled or jaded by the game, I pounce on that shit right then and there. You waited too long and, yes, more than likely she told her girls she agreed to 2000 TLN and they told her "ESTAS LOCA?"
What were you expecting her to do between 0145 and 0215 in the morning while waiting on you to finish shooting the breeze with the boys?
You were right not to give her a second chance though. That bullshit casino excuse she gave you was a big "FUCK YOU" in my book.I look at it as a win / win. Yes it would have been nice to see what she was about. But I don't put as much stock in these females as I used to. There heads are big enough as it is. They arent any more important than I am. For me, they are like crosstown busses. You miss one you can catch another one. Living here as opposed to being on vacation is very different. Meanwhile I value my time with my guy friends more than I do flaky ass chicas. I held up my end by being where I said I would be. I already knew she could have scored a client. That is a given with any chica you don't take right then. I just didn't care if she showed up one way or the other. For all I know, I may have dodged a shitload of drama, or a raggedy session. Technically, I did by not getting with her. Plus I saved my money.
Executive summary: On a night out in Sosua, I encountered a girl whom I found attractive and offered her $38 to attend a 4-hour seminar in my hotel room. She initially accepted, but then stood me up and it later transpired that she had gone to the casino instead. They never learn, do they?No. , she allegedly went to the casino.
Fuck that. When I got that excuse and apology, I would have told her that she could come right now for 1000. Plus it was daytime so she would not be itching to leave so quickly. The shit is chess.As far as I'm concerned that offer can be made anytime to her or any number of chicas. It's not like I didn't have plenty of opportunities of hooking up. I had the night I met her, the next day at the beach, later while at BS, and at 0145. I had her number already and never contacted her to hookup then. The only reason I finally considered hooking up is because I ran into her just when I was fixing to head home. The whole time up until 0215, I was engaged with hanging with my buddy. I hadn't moved. One can't lose the chess match if they don't play the game. And that goes for her as well.
As far as I'm concerned that offer can be made anytime to her or any number of chicas. It's not like I didn't have plenty of opportunities of hooking up. I had the night I met her, the next day at the beach, later while at BS, and at 0145. I had her number already and never contacted her to hookup then. The only reason I finally considered hooking up is because I ran into her just when I was fixing to head home. The whole time up until 0215, I was engaged with hanging with my buddy. I hadn't moved. One can't lose the chess match if they don't play the game. And that goes for her as well.A chess match hardly with any of these Chicas. More like checkers if even that.
Executive summary: On a night out in Sosua, I encountered a girl whom I found attractive and offered her $38 to attend a 4-hour seminar in my hotel room. She initially accepted, but then stood me up and it later transpired that she had gone to the casino instead. They never learn, do they?Sounds more like she found someone to pay her more money for less time than you offered her as you offered her less than than 1800 Pesos. It's all about the money with these Chicas.
Sounds more like she found someone to pay her more money for less time than you offered her as you offered her less than than 1800 Pesos. It's all about the money with these Chicas.While I would have to agree that money is the greatest common denominator; it's not always the factor. Case in point. Do you remember the loca chica you had. You wined, dined her, showers her with gifts and what happened? Was it all about the money with her? The Sue is point and click however if you don't have a strategy with dealing with them eventually your luck will run out.
While I would have to agree that money is the greatest common denominator; it's not always the factor. Case in point. Do you remember the loca chica you had. You wined, dined her, showers her with gifts and what happened? Was it all about the money with her? The Sue is point and click however if you don't have a strategy with dealing with them eventually your luck will run out.Yes I do remember my loca Chica who was a civilian and not a Puta like Frannie was dealing with. You cannot compare a civilian to a Puta, it's like comparing apples to oranges.
I had a short lived relationship with this Chica and my luck ran out when she discovered that I had another Chica. So unless there is some other information, it would make sense that what happened to Frannie was over money as he clearly had never interacted with this Chica before. Your correct about having to have a strategy in dealing with Chicas regardless of whether their civilians or Putas. Civilians are much harder to deal with than Putas as your well aware of.
SavePros321
10-28-16, 13:07
Yes I do remember my loca Chica who was a civilian and not a Puta like Frannie was dealing with. You cannot compare a civilian to a Puta, it's like comparing apples to oranges.
So unless there is some other information, it would make sense that what happened to Frannie was over money as he clearly had never interacted with this Chica before.Surfer, I think you got confused about Frannie's "Executive Summary" post. It wasn't about him; it was his summation of Wrx2005's (lengthy) trip report.
Surfer, I think you got confused about Frannie's "Executive Summary" post. It wasn't about him; it was his summation of Wrx2005's (lengthy) trip report.Your correct and it's interesting that we have to have another members boil down a report in excess of at least a thousand words of excessive babble to less than 50 words to get to understand what happened.
Arrived yesterday afternoon in town and after getting my room ready and stocked with food and beverages I took a stroll down the Strip.
Parts of the strip looked like something out of a war zone!
With the interior demolition work being done inside the former Latinos and the boarded up and deserted Rumbas I couldn't believe what I saw.
And across the street the Bermuda Bar and Cigar place were abandoned. Nobody sitting in chairs on the sidewalks gawking at the Ladies.
And Central Bar in the evening devoid of throngs of Haitians. Well at least the beach was the same!Well I've been here ten days now and leave tomorrow, this time next week I'll be in Medellin and will miss the beaches here. Yesterday around 4 PM in the afternoon I hung out at the Platinum Bar across from Rumbas and a had a Cuba Libre. I observed lots of girls coming into town walking around in groups like packs of wolves. One girl asked me to go with her and I told her I had already come three times during the day which was true, and that I was out of leche. She said she could get a fourth one out of me but I told her no thanks and to find someone else as it was happy hour!
Anyways, I edged my table to the edge of the sidewalk and spoke with the owner of the Bar at length over the state of affairs. She informed me that her business was off probably at least 40% due to the ban of the tables out on the sidewalk in front of her Bar. She said, which had been previously reported, that the Mayor and others in their infinite wisdom were concerned about families with their children navigating the sidewalk which she thought was a joke. According to the owner there has been a lot of backlash from the business affected by this, and that perhaps in two weeks they were going to allow the tables back on the sidewalk and also thought that Rumbas's may be opening back up as well. The timing is kind of odd, almost seems to correspond to the beginning of tourist season, and perhaps the Mayor doesn't want to be pummeled any more. Perhaps somebody who lives here has more information on this.
This is great news and I hope it's true. As much as I like Medellin, I would hate to see this town go down any more than it has. Additionally there is a new venue in town, Pica Flor which I visited and reported on, but is expensive.
Anyways, I edged my table to the edge of the sidewalk and spoke with the owner of the Bar at length over the state of affairs. She informed me that her business was off probably at least 40% due to the ban of the tables out on the sidewalk in front of her Bar. She said, which had been previously reported, that the Mayor and others in their infinite wisdom were concerned about families with their children navigating the sidewalk which she thought was a joke. According to the owner there has been a lot of backlash from the business affected by this, and that perhaps in two weeks they were going to allow the tables back on the sidewalk and also thought that Rumbas's may be opening back up as well. The timing is kind of odd, almost seems to correspond to the beginning of tourist season, and perhaps the Mayor doesn't want to be pummeled any more. Perhaps somebody who lives here has more information on this.
I read somewhere on this forum that the extra hour was Return to businesses Operation time in exchange for removal of the chairs in the front of businesses. I don't know if that's true but it seems like a bad trade-off. It seems more businesses profit from customers relaxing sitting on the outside watching the festivities then from that extra hour for closing time.
I read somewhere on this forum that the extra hour was Return to businesses Operation time in exchange for removal of the chairs in the front of businesses. I don't know if that's true but it seems like a bad trade-off. It seems more businesses profit from customers relaxing sitting on the outside watching the festivities then from that extra hour for closing time.Your correct as those tables bring in a lot of money and if things don't revert back to the way they were before the Mayor will probably get lynched!
I read somewhere on this forum that the extra hour was Return to businesses Operation time in exchange for removal of the chairs in the front of businesses. I don't know if that's true but it seems like a bad trade-off. It seems more businesses profit from customers relaxing sitting on the outside watching the festivities then from that extra hour for closing time.I heard that same rumor. That it was extra time in exchange for the tables removed. But I also heard Rumba was supposed to be re-opened Wednesday but I didn't see it open then. IMO I think the tables / chairs removed does have an effect on business. Premium Disco and the bar / restaurant across from Bermuda bar.
Many vacationers / expats and their company posted up outside of Premium Disco to drink. Because it's generally for locals inside, those same patrons I mentioned that sit outside will not go inside. That has a significant effect on PD's business. The bar / restaurant across from the Bermuda Bar lost some business because their tables / chairs was a postup spot for a lot of guys and chicas.
Schlemmers bar / restaurant (german restaurant) kinda took over as the Haitian Embassy. Also Bar Central. Their removal of tables and chairs caused more of an inconvenience. More chicas are now standing around Schlemmers, instead of sitting with guys out on the sidewalk. Bourbon Street often had locals (hustlers / chicas) occupying seats invited and uninvited, out on the sidewalk, before security would send them packing. All in all, with tables and chairs out on the sidewalk, those establishments generally had a steady stream of loitering chicas, moto drivers and husters. I personally had no problem with the chicas, but the rest that were always in your face I think were somewhat of a nuisance for a lot of folks.
Quagmire1974
10-29-16, 08:00
Additionally there is a new venue in town, Pica Flor which I visited and reported on, but is expensive.Was it this place, Surfer?
http://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=3999&article=1
If so, I ate there when I was in Sosua a couple of years ago. But it had just opened up and there wasn't anyone there on the evening I visited except a waitress, the chef, and the manager. If it's the same place, it sounds like word spread and now it's a popular hangout.
I know a pair of sisters. I used to get with the younger sister. But I haven't seen her in a few months. I suspect she got pregnant or wifed up. (meaning some foreigner is paying to keep her off the street). Of course there are other possibilities. Some chicas leave the DR to visit other countries to work there. Anyway, I have always liked the older sister. She generally comes to Sosua from Puerto Plata, but only comes in the day. She generally will not stay past 5, maybe 6 if it's still light out. Like her sister she always appeared to be very good natured. Nothing hardcore about how she carries herself.
This past Monday, she was passing by Terra Linda, and I stopped her to talk. I told her it's time for me and her to get together. She didn't have a phone so I told her I'd talk to her later. When I saw her later, I told her that I wanted her to "help" me clean my place. She agreed. The next day, we meet at New Garden to have breakfast. While eating, I whip out my Ipad to explain what I wanted done, and that I wanted us to spend time together. I gave her a figure, she accepted and we left for my place.
Got to my place, and she went right to it. I stayed in the living room, and ended up keeping busy posting on ISG. Put on Spotify for her, and asked her what she wanted to listen to. She said she liked Chris Brown. Put that on, and she merrily went about her cleaning. The whole time, except for helping her find things or to know where a few things belonged, I didn't bother her or get in her way. She cleaned top to bottom, and cleaned in places I didn't even mention. I especially like what she did in the kitchen and bathroom.
The living room was the last place she cleaned. That means I had to retreat to the bedroom. By the time she was finished, she seemed to be a little pooped. She came in the bedroom to let me know she was finished. I pulled her down on the bed face down, unfastened her bra, and started to give her a nice back massage. After a few minutes she stopped me, and went to shower. Afterwards I showered, got the lotion and continued her massage. Eventually I flipped her over, and ended up playing with her pussy until she was ready.
For a p4 p chica I have to say she was great. The passion was there, her body was very responsive, she was clean. I can tell she doesn't really like hanging out looking for clients. That she would prefer to be off the street. My offer was ideal for both of us. She gets to service someone she knows, possibly likes to a certain degree, do regular work, and still earn more servicing me. What she earned with me, prompted her to leave Sosua earlier than she normally would.
I have more projects for her coming up. Cooking, laundry and washing vehicles. I'm sure there are going to be times where I'll have her over just to work, and for her company without sex. She will be welcome to just chill at my place, wash her own clothes if needed. We can build on this new arrangement.
Later that night, my pretend GF came over to spend the night. She didn't say anything, but I'm sure she noticed that the place was clean and organized. And that I probably didn't do it myself. I'm glad she noticed that her position can be filled. In fact since she took on a job and started coming less, I adjusted what I usually give her. No problem for her, I assume she has other guys paying their share. Especially in Sept. When I was gone almost a month.
I know a pair of sisters. I used to get with the younger sister. But I haven't seen her in a few months. I suspect she got pregnant or wifed up. (meaning some foreigner is paying to keep her off the street). Of course there are other possibilities. Some chicas leave the DR to visit other countries to work there. Anyway, I have always liked the older sister. She generally comes to Sosua from Puerto Plata, but only comes in the day. She generally will not stay past 5, maybe 6 if it's still light out. Like her sister she always appeared to be very good natured. Nothing hardcore about how she carries herself.
This past Monday, she was passing by Terra Linda, and I stopped her to talk. I told her it's time for me and her to get together. She didn't have a phone so I told her I'd talk to her later. When I saw her later, I told her that I wanted her to "help" me clean my place. She agreed. The next day, we meet at New Garden to have breakfast. While eating, I whip out my Ipad to explain what I wanted done, and that I wanted us to spend time together. I gave her a figure, she accepted and we left for my place.
Got to my place, and she went right to it. I stayed in the living room, and ended up keeping busy posting on ISG. Put on Spotify for her, and asked her what she wanted to listen to. She said she liked Chris Brown. Put that on, and she merrily went about her cleaning. The whole time, except for helping her find things or to know where a few things belonged, I didn't bother her or get in her way. She cleaned top to bottom, and cleaned in places I didn't even mention. I especially like what she did in the kitchen and bathroom.
The living room was the last place she cleaned. That means I had to retreat to the bedroom. By the time she was finished, she seemed to be a little pooped. She came in the bedroom to let me know she was finished. I pulled her down on the bed face down, unfastened her bra, and started to give her a nice back massage. After a few minutes she stopped me, and went to shower. Afterwards I showered, got the lotion and continued her massage. Eventually I flipped her over, and ended up playing with her pussy until she was ready.
For a p4 p chica I have to say she was great. The passion was there, her body was very responsive, she was clean. I can tell she doesn't really like hanging out looking for clients. That she would prefer to be off the street. My offer was ideal for both of us. She gets to service someone she knows, possibly likes to a certain degree, do regular work, and still earn more servicing me. What she earned with me, prompted her to leave Sosua earlier than she normally would.
I have more projects for her coming up. Cooking, laundry and washing vehicles. I'm sure there are going to be times where I'll have her over just to work, and for her company without sex. She will be welcome to just chill at my place, wash her own clothes if needed. We can build on this new arrangement.
Later that night, my pretend GF came over to spend the night. She didn't say anything, but I'm sure she noticed that the place was clean and organized. And that I probably didn't do it myself. I'm glad she noticed that her position can be filled. In fact since she took on a job and started coming less, I adjusted what I usually give her. No problem for her, I assume she has other guys paying their share. Especially in Sept. When I was gone almost a month.WRS2005 aka Sigmund Freud aka BQRib Jr. Clean up, relax, sex me, go home with money in your pocket. No tripping no drama. Earn a come back and repeat pass. All good.
Mr Enternational
10-30-16, 05:34
WRS2005 aka Sigmund Freud aka BQRib Jr. Clean up, relax, sex me, go home with money in your pocket. No tripping no drama. Earn a come back and repeat pass. All good.Talking about sisters: aka Old Kool II.
Was it this place, Surfer?
http://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=3999&article=1
If so, I ate there when I was in Sosua a couple of years ago. But it had just opened up and there wasn't anyone there on the evening I visited except a waitress, the chef, and the manager. If it's the same place, it sounds like word spread and now it's a popular hangout.The place used to be Elvis in Cabarette and operates now out of the Pica Flor eating place at the end of Ocean Village Road in Sosua I did not see it in the link you provided.
Another rare night for me, hanging out past my bed time. 3 friends were in town. All just got in yesterday and the day before. The strip was alive. All on one side of the street. Bourbon Street was full. , The sidewalk in front was full. About 1215 am we walked down towards Merengue. Place was packed, every seat occupied. Alligator and squirrel eyes staring at men from every direction and angle. The fellas I was with only went in, because they were hungry. But were told that there was no food. We left and went to the German Restaurant (Schlemmers).
One guy, an acquaintance of mine, stayed behind but joined us minutes later but escorting a Haitian chica. Very cute face, nicely dressed, but not much ass. My acquaintance Bobby was about to order when he realized he didn't have enough money. He excused himself to go back to his hotel (Valeria) to get some money. Meanwhile he left the Haitian chica at the restaurant with us. It took, about 15 seconds for her to start campaigning for a replacement. She focused her immediate attention on my buddy J. J, tries to convince her that she is still with Bobby. She said, well Bobby is not here, I don't see why we can't exchange numbers or get together. . She was campaigning hard. Not just for later, but for J to leave with her right now. J, wasnt interested right then but maybe later, plus he already had something set up for after he ate.
Bobby comes back shortly, has no clue what transpired with all of us talking to this lady. He decides, he is too tired to take her himself. Oh shit. We all knew this chica is about to be pissed. And she was. I almost felt sorry for the lady. But then I reminded myself of how many times I may have been stood up by some chica that gave me some story, when in reality she found another client in the moment. And besides, look at what she was ready to do with J, even though she was supposedly waiting on Bobby. . You live by the sword, you die by the sword. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.
Personally I don't see a problem with guys sticking up for themselves, or focusing on what's best for themselves. If a woman can change her mind and think nothing of it, and we have to deal with it, men can as well, and women have to deal with it, . .
Another rare night for me, hanging out past my bed time. 3 friends were in town. All just got in yesterday and the day before. The strip was alive. All on one side of the street. Bourbon Street was full. , The sidewalk in front was full. About 1215 am we walked down towards Merengue. Place was packed, every seat occupied. Alligator and squirrel eyes staring at men from every direction and angle. The fellas I was with only went in, because they were hungry. But were told that there was no food. We left and went to the German Restaurant (Schlemmers).
One guy, an acquaintance of mine, stayed behind but joined us minutes later but escorting a Haitian chica. Very cute face, nicely dressed, but not much ass. My acquaintance Bobby was about to order when he realized he didn't have enough money..No no and no! Your boy was dead ass wrong. He invited the girl to the restaurant, left to go get some money and came back and told her to scram? And you want to flip this on the girl? Then when women get tired of bullshit like this and want cash up front and acts hardcore we then say she is the devil. Don't invite a girl to sit if you aren't interested, don't buy them a drink if you aren't interested, it's a simple code. It's not a commitment to fuck. Sure you can change your mind, but be a man about your shit and don't play kid games in an adult environment. It's a fuck move. Fuck what she did because that didn't figure into what he did. See rude MF like that I wouldn't be around too much. He knew he was unsure from the beginning that's why he didn't go get his money before coming to the restaurant. He was stalling and wanted to show his boys the girl. The cool thing to do would have been to give her a beer and handle the situation with class being you instigated it. I applaud the girl for not making a scene but she was Haitian and knew she wouldn't get justice. If it had been a Dominicans it would have been a different story.
One guy, an acquaintance of mine, stayed behind but joined us minutes later but escorting a Haitian chica. Very cute face, nicely dressed, but not much ass. My acquaintance Bobby was about to order when he realized he didn't have enough money. He excused himself to go back to his hotel (Valeria) to get some money. Meanwhile he left the Haitian chica at the restaurant with us. It took, about 15 seconds for her to start campaigning for a replacement. She focused her immediate attention on my buddy J. J, tries to convince her that she is still with Bobby. She said, well Bobby is not here, I don't see why we can't exchange numbers or get together. . She was campaigning hard. Not just for later, but for J to leave with her right now. J, wasnt interested right then but maybe later, plus he already had something set up for after he ate. Are you sure it was Bobby? It sounds more like something a Dick would do. He comes out on the town and doesn't have enough money on him to buy her something to eat? If he was interested in the chica, he could have taken her back with him to the hotel for a chat and a preview, or taken her somewhere else to eat away from his pals.
Bobby comes back shortly, has no clue what transpired with all of us talking to this lady. He decides, he is too tired to take her himself. Oh shit. We all knew this chica is about to be pissed. And she was. I almost felt sorry for the lady. But then I reminded myself of how many times I may have been stood up by some chica that gave me some story, when in reality she found another client in the moment. And besides, look at what she was ready to do with J, even though she was supposedly waiting on Bobby. . You live by the sword, you die by the sword. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.
Personally I don't see a problem with guys sticking up for themselves, or focusing on what's best for themselves. If a woman can change her mind and think nothing of it, and we have to deal with it, men can as well, and women have to deal with it, . .Of course she was pissed off. She was working and he was wasting her time. It sounds like you still haven't gotten over being stood up by a chica a few nights ago due to your lack of decisiveness, which you admit is habitual, as this often happens to you.
Tempoecorto
11-02-16, 01:38
I have had it up to here with Dr. Freud's analysis paralysis. Do intervene to stop the BS and give you some "boots on the ground" report. LOL.
I have had it up to here with Dr. Freud's analysis paralysis. Do intervene to stop the BS and give you some "boots on the ground" report. LOL.Tomjackin is there? That dirty dog, no wonder all my Sosua girls stopped calling last week.
No no and no! Your boy was dead ass wrong. He invited the girl to the restaurant, left to go get some money and came back and told her to scram? And you want to flip this on the girl? Then when women get tired of bullshit like this and want cash up front and acts hardcore we then say she is the devil. Don't invite a girl to sit if you aren't interested, don't buy them a drink if you aren't interested, it's a simple code. It's not a commitment to fuck. Sure you can change your mind, but be a man about your shit and don't play kid games in an adult environment. It's a fuck move. Fuck what she did because that didn't figure into what he did. See rude MF like that I wouldn't be around too much. He knew he was unsure from the beginning that's why he didn't go get his money before coming to the restaurant. He was stalling and wanted to show his boys the girl. The cool thing to do would have been to give her a beer and handle the situation with class being you instigated it. I applaud the girl for not making a scene but she was Haitian and knew she wouldn't get justice. If it had been a Dominicans it would have been a different story.Personally I don't have a dog in that race. I don't think in anybody elses head, and I do not take responsibility for what anybody else does.
I do believe in karma though. She initiated her own demise in securing a client whether Bobby knew what she was doing or not. If she was invited as you say, then why is she exempt from scrutiny for dissing her date within 15 seconds of him going to get money? At that point, what did he do to deserve that? Nobody knew what his state of mind was until he got back. Moreover, lets not over exaggerate here. The guy didn't tell the woman to scram. He told her that he was tired, and can we do this another night. Trust that woman wouldn't be giving a fuck about her date, if she found another guy to walk off with. So I don't have any sympathy in situations like that. Had she been chilled and simply waited, then I would feel different.
Now, I'll just take the rest you are saying as you speculating on the mans state of mind and venting. But as far as I'm concerned, what happened seemed perfectly understandable on his part. Nobody owes anybody their time or business. I hate to throw you under the bus bro, but you recall that Haitian chica you told a lie to because you wanted to be with someone else? Do you think you handled that situation the right way after she travelled to see you? Remember? Where you stand on the issue depends on where you sit. Ya can't be pointing fingers at others and not see the relevancy in any man deciding he wants to change his mind or plans. Granted, I do recall, you bought her drinks and gave her some pesos for her time, but bro. Dont buy drinks if you arent interested right? Dont invite if you arent interested right? That was a raggedly move. And it seemed the chica really wanted to hook up with you. What did she do to deserve that? Karma reared it's ugly head, because she spotted you somewhere you werent supposed to be.
But guess what? Inspite of that, I supported your right to change your mind and do what you felt was best for you. Bros before hoes. Thats how I saw it that night and that's how I saw it Monday night. And that is what I will support with you any other night. Now if you want to talk about wrong, then you should get on me as well for being a part of your charade with that Haitian chica.
My last post;.
There you go playing word games trying to pivot around the true and only topic that should've been discussed, which is your boy made a fuck move. Not what this girl did, not what she had coming, not doing what other girls did to us. She should've got a pass and not your boy.
WRX said " I don't have a dog in this race "but you found all kind of fault in the female but gave Bobby a pass.
WRX said " Moreover, lets not over exaggerate here. The guy didn't tell the woman to scram. He told her that he was tired, and can we do this another night. " So he invites her, tells her he needs to go get money and comes back and says he is tired and can we do this another night and somehow you don't think he is not telling her to leave?
With the Haitian chic it was good Karma because it was meant to be. Some things positive happen even when surrounded by negative events. I was buying the Haitian drinks as I decided how to play the night when you called. You came to the bar at Europa and me and the girl we're still drinking. I went to change my clothes so me and the Haitian could hit the strip (with me paying) but you made the friend play with the Haitian. Once the friend arrived you didn't like her so we were now in an awkward spot. To save face I lied and said I had an emergency and gave the girls 500 to go back home or whatever. We had made plans to go get some other girls. Luckily she found me at the bar across from Baileys and I explained everything. It was a great night, you were there in the morning when we went to the metro. That's totally different from the " fuck move" your buddy did. Stay on topic and let's discuss why your buddy did that? What was his perspective, and any other matrix regarding him you choose to discuss. But I'm not getting on that blame the female run you like to lead people on.
Are you sure it was Bobby? It sounds more like something a Dick would do. He comes out on the town and doesn't have enough money on him to buy her something to eat? If he was interested in the chica, he could have taken her back with him to the hotel for a chat and a preview, or taken her somewhere else to eat away from his pals.
Of course she was pissed off. She was working and he was wasting her time. It sounds like you still haven't gotten over being stood up by a chica a few nights ago due to your lack of decisiveness, which you admit is habitual, as this often happens to you.How many times do I have to school you? What something sounds like, seems like or appears to be, don't make it a reality. Your what something sounds like, is just you with a hearing problem. Also the redundant / useless If statements. That guy was under no obligation to take her back to his hotel for a chat, or to take her elsewhere to buy her anything to eat, interested or not. Of course you would recommend such cape wearing trickery, Most people know it's probably better to interview a chica off your turf, and her not knowing where you stay, than inviting her in your spot before vetting her. Even a rookie monger would know better than that.
BTW all 3 of us at the table with that chica ( before the guy came back ) thought what she did was fucked up, trying diss her date and go off with one of us. So as far as her being pissed, neither of us could give a fuck. She got what she deserved. We respected the guy, by not initiating pushing up on his date while he was away. Thats how non cape wearing mongers support each other.
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