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I know a lot of you are not club people, but that is where the hot chicks are and most dudes not comfortable pulling in that environment, but that is where they are.If the guys who are dealing with busted chicks in Sosua are doing their own thing, why does this consistently concern you so much? Did it ever occur to you that some guys have figured out that paying a grip just to get next to so called hotties, and pretending like one is balling is stupid and a waste of money. No matter if she's a hottie or busted, after a dude gets a nut the result is basically the same.
Further, generally speaking, enough women are insecure creatures. Many having nothing going on but their looks for the time being, or simply having a vagina. Those hotties are no exception. You take one look at them, and you see a ton of makeup, false eye lashes, fake hair, high heels to change their profile, fake nails, and anything else I didn't mention. Before and after a dude hits it, and busts a nut, what value does that chick have after that? Busted or not, most of them women can't even hold a conversation. There isn't much they bring to the table except, looks. IMO the young cats needing hotties so bad, is probably because they werent getting any hotties back where they came from.
Meanwhile, many old cats already had their fun with the hot women of their day. But today, further along in life. With wisdom to boot. Don't require the type of women you are talking about in order to enjoy a woman. Perhaps you haven't realized yet what older cats see that younger cats fail to see. See Revere, enough men have been there and done that when it comes to being around women who are impressed by cars, status, materialism and men throwing around money. Thats what some young minded men enjoy. Others are smarter than that, even if young.
Mature men look more to getting the most bang for the buck, whereas the chicks aint sizing you up because of the type of car you drive, how much money you spend in the clubs, how much money a man throws around. For a mature man, it's much wiser to deal with women that arent in that type of environment. That might be disgusted by that kind of waste, money that they could use. Besides, I don't think them women in the POP clubs respect men that are wasteful with their money. They probably think they are fools. Paying for an experience that may only be worth 1000 pesos, but dressed up to look like it's worth more.
The bottom line. Women busted or not, none of what any fellas are doing in Sosua concerns what other men are doing in POP and vice versa. All chicks have a window before their value plummets. If they don't have education and their own source of income, as far as I'm concerned, they are all busted.
Now for the record. How much are these so called hotties getting paid? $150 $200 $300 or more? I'm trying to figure out, after you done dropped $100 - 500 dollars at the club, and a night with a hottie, what do those men get that was worth that kind of money? I'm sure you realize a womans looks has no real connection on her bedroom skills. Many a man has reported that so called hot women often are a disappointment. And like you said, the reason that is true of enough of them, because they don't have to (perform well). After a night of drinking and boozing it up, neither guys or the hot chicks remember what happened in the bedroom. And I'll bet enough guys are too embarrassed to admit they never even hit the hot girl. They fell asleep. Dumb is repeating that same pointless pattern over and over again, ending up with the same result.
First of all, a guy I met in the DR a long long time ago was right. He told me when I go to Cuba, I will forget about the D.R. . He was correct,.Never been to Cuba and I have no desire to go there. I refuse to play hide and seek with their government.
South America is now my go to place; I can find beautiful women in any country.
BTW, I can find beautiful women in the DR as well.
Never been to Cuba and I have no desire to go there. I refuse to play hide and seek with their government.
South America is now my go to place; I can find beautiful women in any country.
BTW, I can find beautiful women in the DR as well.I've been to Cuba at least 8 times in the last 3 years. I've been to the DR at least 18 times in the last two years. There something special about each place. But to say Cuba will make me forget the DR is Ludacris. For any of you who haven't been to Cuba I will tell you this. You will not find more young available Latin women per square feet then you fine in Sosua. The best club I've been in Cuba had about 1/4 of the women in Classico. I did do Cuba three times back to back then I started missing my camel toes.
There were times in Cuba when we had to go hunting for available chicas. And I was accompanied by two local guys. TJ have never been there before which surprises me however you are right. That cat and mouse game with the police can get under your skin and Is a big deterrent. Sometimes its like cuban government is saying we want you here spending your money but we dont want you to talk to our women Unless you know them. But I must admit I'm going back to Cuba next month after a six month layoff. Why you might ask. The flights are cheaper the women more educated and cheaper the food is better and I need to change up.
I have hobbied all over the world and have not come across dudes who are hostile if you bang their wgs. The closest was India but the guys just looked at you but never said or did anything. However, in any country if you bang a non-pro who happens to be some bloke's GF you may get a different response.That's true enough, about wgs, but in my youth, I have been in lots of local places where it was dangerous to try to pick up local women. The U. K. (where I'm from ) Scotland, Detroit and the Bahamas particularly stand out as places where we got in trouble with locals, and couldn't even go into some bars and local dances, unless we had enough backup to get us in and out without a fight. Even then somebody would start something up!
But the scent of fresh pussy always outweighed the risk!
A few demographic facts:
The Dominican Republic is internationally known as "The paradise of the Caribbean"- Wiki.
It is the most popular tourist spot in the whole Caribbean.
The DR has over 6 million visitors a year.
Our Sosua Forum, is by far the most commented on "monger" destination.
So, there's definitely something going on in Sosua.
Even the Sosua haters congregate here to complain about it! For some reason they cannot "move on" to their so-called greener pastures. Lol
Revere's lifestyle and mine could not be more different, but we both find what we want here!
And, that's really something to be said about the place!
Not my intention to get into a Cuba vs DR thing. To each their own. And of course every place has beautiful women.
I just think Cuba happens to have more than most other places. And certainly more than DR. Per square foot. Etc.
So it's a matter of the convenience of the DR. Versus the uniqueness and beauty of Cuba (and its women). (and the bad infrastructure)
Just my own preference. One other place that I remember is walking along Lido in Caracas back in the day during lunchtime. With all the secretaries out of their offices etc.
If you just started going to Cuba in the last several years. (8 times in last three years eh?) . And you cannot speak decent Spanish, then I would feel your frustration and pain. I just happen to remember a different Cuba and even now retain the ability due to language fluency to swim in different circles (also have some local friends).
You may very much be better off going to the D.R. and I've had my own fun there As well. Including "So-sewer" (though given what I read on this board now, sounds like I wouldn't really want to return?
Anyways. To each their own. The world is big and there are amazing women everywhere.
BTW. I've been listening to that La Ocasion trap dembow song all day. Once you crank it up on great earbuds. Or subwoofer, speakers it's a different experience.
Love that song. And I have always liked Latin Rap more than American. Because it has always been more melodic. But now the PR / Miami gang has added the American style sophisticated Dr. Dre style backtrack beats. And the results. Well. Are amazing.
Not my intention to get into a Cuba vs DR thing. To each their own. And of course every place has beautiful women.
I just think Cuba happens to have more than most other places. And certainly more than DR. Per square foot. Etc.
So it's a matter of the convenience of the DR. Versus the uniqueness and beauty of Cuba (and its women). (and the bad infrastructure)
Just my own preference. One other place that I remember is walking along Lido in Caracas back in the day during lunchtime. With all the secretaries out of their offices etc.
If you just started going to Cuba in the last several years. (8 times in last three years eh?) . And you cannot speak decent Spanish, then I would feel your frustration and pain. I just happen to remember a different Cuba and even now retain the ability due to language fluency to swim in different circles (also have some local friends).
OK you made the statement and wasn't looking to start a Cuba vs DR the thing. Cool I wasn't going to debate you I just gave my own experience.
Forgive me if I sound a little defensive. What do you think the reactions will be if I go on the Thailand board and told them someone told me if I ever go to the Philippines, I will forget all about Thailand?
That statement alone is a contradiction. Obviously you haven't forgot or else why would you be here on this board.
I didn't base my analogy on the over all beauty of the places but mostly on Chica availability and accessibility.
From your statements; You are Obviously a well traveled monger and I think the board can learn from your experience. But don't give me your "Ifs" Because you do not know my level of Spanish "which is so so by the way". I did say I was accompanied by two locals.
I'm not frustrated Or in pain about Cuba I don't know why some guys assign words or actions other didn't say.
I owe a lot of this board. Giving my advice and my experience is my way of paying back. Sometimes I hear something that's contradictory to what I've witnessed first hand I feel its my duty to share my experience. So newbies out there can hear others observation.
I don't know what Cuba you were in where you experience this Youll forget the DR. But IMHO they are far more available females in the DR
That's true enough, about wgs, but in my youth, I have been in lots of local places where it was dangerous to try to pick up local women. The U. K. (where I'm from ) Scotland, Detroit and the Bahamas particularly stand out as places where we got in trouble with locals, and couldn't even go into some bars and local dances, unless we had enough backup to get us in and out without a fight. Even then somebody would start something up!
But the scent of fresh pussy always outweighed the risk!I think there are pockets in every country where its dangerous for tourists to try to pick up non-pro local girls. You veer off the tourist areas off the beaten path into a local community and try to pick up a non-pro local girl and you are going to attract unwanted attention.
That's true enough, about wgs, but in my youth, I have been in lots of local places where it was dangerous to try to pick up local women. The U. K. (where I'm from ) Scotland, Detroit and the Bahamas particularly stand out as places where we got in trouble with locals, and couldn't even go into some bars and local dances, unless we had enough backup to get us in and out without a fight. Even then somebody would start something up!
But the scent of fresh pussy always outweighed the risk!Detroit!? I'm from Detroit. I'm dying to hear your story about what happened in the the.
I don't know what Cuba you were in where you experience this Youll forget the DR. But IMHO they are far more available females in the DRI would quibble with your assertion that there are "far more available women" in the DR. The question is "available to whom"? To a point and click monger type, probably. To other types. Highly debatable.
And even if I agreed with that assertion, I happen to prefer the looks of and sexual experience (s) with Cubanas over Dominicanas. (and I actually prefer Haitianas to Dominicanas also for that matter) You're welcome to feel otherwise.
Detroit!? I'm from Detroit. I'm dying to hear your story about what happened in the the.Ok, here goes!
I spent a lot of time crossing into the border States, from Canada on land business. I always enjoyed it over there. Still do when I get a chance! I am always comfortable over there! Buffalo and Detroit.
But I used to love the old porno theaters downtown Detroit, where at some point they had some fine dancers wandering around offering anything you wanted between shows, and an adult bookstore up by Davison and Woodward, where they'd let girls come into the peep booths. I'm talking late 80's here, and I'm a little embarrassed to admit it.
One day, Coming off 75 on to Davison I'm waiting on the off ramp, and I see 3 or four guys stripping a new car, wheels, everything, that was pulled over on to the shoulder with one guy keeping his eyes peeled for the cops. They looked at me, and the message was keep moving. So I did!
Later I checked in at my go to local go-go bar for a beer on 8 Mile (topless only) and spent another hour or two watching the girls and talking to a big white guy at the bar. One thing led to another and he said he was going to a place where everything goes, and If I wanted I could come along. I followed him in my Cadillac Seville down Woodward to a bar near downtown. Sure enough I couldn't believe what I saw, bjs, hjs and even laptop ic going on in the booths and at the tables. Loved it and got my share of the action, but I was waiting for one amazing young blonde who was the star of the show. At one point I looked around and my guy wasn't there anymore, and I'd had a few beers. I was the only white guy there! A big black guy comes up to me and says something like it's time to go pal, and he meant it! I wasn't about to argue.
I grew up in a very rough neighborhood, I got cat eyes in the back of my head, so I'm not easily intimidated. I went out back to the pitch black parking lot, looked around carefully and made a run for my car and started her up. 3 guys come out of the shadows and want me to roll my window down, they are hollering they need my jack. I don't think so, so I got the headlights on and luckily saw a clear way out (thanks to smart parking and backing in), and gunned the car outa there with the guys hollering and kicking at my car (still had the dents for a while) today they'd probably have guns.
Didn't stop me from going to Detroit every chance I got, though, and the motel at the corner of Woodward and Davison became my friendly home away from home.
But I wouldn't go back to that bar without my big pal and maybe a couple of his buddies!
I would quibble with your assertion that there are "far more available women" in the DR. The question is "available to whom"? To a point and click monger type, probably. To other types. Highly debatable.
And even if I agreed with that assertion, I happen to prefer the looks of and sexual experience (s) with Cubanas over Dominicanas. (and I actually prefer Haitianas to Dominicanas also for that matter) You're welcome to feel otherwise.I am a monger. I am always a Tourist outside of my country and I base my experience on my hobby in general. From point and click. To go and get. I do it all in this hobby. I also have an affinity for studying my environment and sharing my information to other mongers in general.
If the question is "available to whom"; the answer is Mongers in general. The two local guys (in their 20's) I hung out with we're doing the same thing I was doing. Looking for available chicas that's were willing to do something strange. For little piece of change.
I will agree with you. I to prefer the overall sexual encounters with Cubans over Dominicans and Haitian. The sessions are more raw and uncut. And the phrase "leeche papi leeche" a Dominican practice.
Ok, here goes!
I spent a lot of time crossing into the border States, from Canada on land business. I always enjoyed it over there. Still do when I get a chance! I am always comfortable over there! Buffalo and Detroit.
But I used to love the old porno theaters downtown Detroit, where at some point they had some fine dancers wandering around offering anything you wanted between shows, and an adult bookstore up by Davison and Woodward, where they'd let girls come into the peep booths. I'm talking late 80's here, and I'm a little embarrassed to admit it.
One day, Coming off 75 on to Davison I'm waiting on the off ramp, and I see 3 or four guys stripping a new car, wheels, everything, that was pulled over on to the shoulder with one guy keeping his eyes peeled for the cops. They looked at me, and the message was keep moving. So I did!
Later I checked in at my go to local go-go bar for a beer on 8 Mile (topless only) and spent another hour or two watching the girls and talking to a big white guy at the bar. One thing led to another and he said he was going to a place where everything goes, and If I wanted I could come along. I followed him in my Cadillac Seville down Woodward to a bar near downtown. Sure enough I couldn't believe what I saw, bjs, hjs and even laptop ic going on in the booths and at the tables. Loved it and got my share of the action, but I was waiting for one amazing young blonde who was the star of the show. At one point I looked around and my guy wasn't there anymore, and I'd had a few beers. I was the only white guy there! A big black guy comes up to me and says something like it's time to go pal, and he meant it! I wasn't about to argue.
I grew up in a very rough neighborhood, I got cat eyes in the back of my head, so I'm not easily intimidated. I went out back to the pitch black parking lot, looked around carefully and made a run for my car and started her up. 3 guys come out of the shadows and want me to roll my window down, they are hollering they need my jack. I don't think so, so I got the headlights on and luckily saw a clear way out (thanks to smart parking and backing in), and gunned the car outa there with the guys hollering and kicking at my car (still had the dents for a while) today they'd probably have guns.
Didn't stop me from going to Detroit every chance I got, though, and the motel at the corner of Woodward and Davison became my friendly home away from home.
But I wouldn't go back to that bar without my big pal and maybe a couple of his buddies!LMAO! Sounds like the the! I'm glad you got out unharmed. I know that bookstore. I graduated in 86, so I'm a little behind you. I'll be back in the sue in late Dec. I'll pm you and we'll have a few beers and share war stories. Or working girl stories! LOL. ✌.
LMAO! Sounds like the the! I'm glad you got out unharmed. I know that bookstore. I graduated in 86, so I'm a little behind you. I'll be back in the sue in late Dec. I'll pm you and we'll have a few beers and share war stories. Or working girl stories! LOL. ✌.Look forward to it! Beers on me!
(I'd had a few beers and I never thought my life was in danger, I grew up with these punks. Empty my wallet and leave the car, it was insured. I would have challenged them to leave me cab fare!)
In Scotland, they had no sense of humor and they would have happily kicked the shit out of me! That was scary!
Taking a short trip Veterans Day weekend. I know Classicos does not get busy till midnight. Is there any other bars open where freelancers hang out before then. Last time I went construction was going on. Did any of the old freelancer places open now?
I am looking for country types not hard core ones. Like TDN. Last few times I was successful in getting GFE types who stayed and had fun.
Anybody there right now can update me, thanks.
I will be on the ground at the same time. The weekends have more and better chicas. Getting GFE is not hard. If your money is right and your atitude is solid y0 u will have no issues. I like the same type girls you described. Let the girl know you like her and barring her having kids close by Puerto Plata girls all night is no issue. Caberetti can be a great date local. You can take your special girl there and enjoy the good times before 12 am. PM me I will buy the 1st drink.
Taking a short trip Veterans Day weekend. I know Classicos does not get busy till midnight. Is there any other bars open where freelancers hang out before then. Last time I went construction was going on. Did any of the old freelancer places open now?
I am looking for country types not hard core ones. Like TDN. Last few times I was successful in getting GFE types who stayed and had fun.
Anybody there right now can update me, thanks.
I just read report from a guy posting about his 1st trip to Rio. The cost for girls was jaw dropping. Quote (Seems like it was about are $700 for two great lays and some drinks. I paid using my debit card and went out a happy guy.) he was paying about $200 pop. Now he was very happy with the quality but man that is a lot of money. He was going to sex clubs for many of his pickups.
I just read report from a guy posting about his 1st trip to Rio. The cost for girls was jaw dropping. Quote (Seems like it was about are $700 for two great lays and some drinks. I paid using my debit card and went out a happy guy.) he was paying about $200 pop. Now he was very happy with the quality but man that is a lot of money. He was going to sex clubs for many of his pickups.That was not in us dollars. It was in real.
Mr Enternational
10-26-18, 03:23
I just read report from a guy posting about his 1st trip to Rio. The cost for girls was jaw dropping. Quote (Seems like it was about are $700 for two great lays and some drinks. I paid using my debit card and went out a happy guy.) he was paying about $200 pop. Now he was very happy with the quality but man that is a lot of money. He was going to sex clubs for many of his pickups.As TJ said, it was in reais, not dollars. Right now it is 3.71 reais to the $. And remember there are levels to the shit. There are different tier termas. One may cost $15, while another one costs $200. (They caught Justin Beiber outside of Centaurs, which is the most expensive one.) For comparison sake take the old La Passion. Guys were paying $100 there. I think now 4x4 is Rio is about $100 and blows La Passion out of the water. I used to go to 4x4 when I could get 2 chicks for $75. Now that 1 is $100, not so much. But for a newbie or a guy that does not speak Portuguese, he will probably consider it a bargain.
A lot of people like to wait until a place has changed for the worse to visit for the first time. But I have talked to guys whose first time it was in Rio and they loved it. Same as Sosua. You can't miss what you never had. To the old guys a place may have gone down, but to a newbie it may be a new paradise.
I just read report from a guy posting about his 1st trip to Rio. The cost for girls was jaw dropping. Quote (Seems like it was about are $700 for two great lays and some drinks. I paid using my debit card and went out a happy guy.) he was paying about $200 pop. Now he was very happy with the quality but man that is a lot of money. He was going to sex clubs for many of his pickups.Here's more food for thought for anyone tired of Sosua.
There are some new youtube viedeos of Medellin nightlife. Check out "Night at Lleras Park Medellin".
Some hot looking chicks there, and it looks like a happening place, but it's absolutely full of young guys, and I didn't see anybody older than 50 out there!
No country for old men! .
Manizales911
10-28-18, 16:56
Here's more food for thought for anyone tired of Sosua.
There are some new youtube viedeos of Medellin nightlife. Check out "Night at Lleras Park Medellin".
Some hot looking chicks there, and it looks like a happening place, but it's absolutely full of young guys, and I didn't see anybody older than 50 out there!
No country for old men! .There are plenty of older gringos both living and visiting Medellin, Medellin is a great place for a retired gringo to live or visit.
There are plenty of older gringos both living and visiting Medellin, Medellin is a great place for a retired gringo to live or visit.Why are we discussing Colombia issues in Sosua forum. Move it to appropriate forum.
Why are we discussing Colombia issues in Sosua forum. Move it to appropriate forum.Its a comparison between Medellin and Sosua to help punters decide which locale to visit. Totally legit.
https://beta.ctvnews.ca/features/w5-investigates-the-child-sex-industry-in-a-caribbean-tourist-de.html
Just a reminder to always make a right choice and if in doubt to walk away.
https://beta.ctvnews.ca/features/w5-investigates-the-child-sex-industry-in-a-caribbean-tourist-de.html
Just a reminder to always make a right choice and if in doubt to walk away.PC click bait to make Canadians feel self righteous about their own serious problems with traficking of minors.
PC, because they do not mention the real perps, Dominican males, who get them pregnant at 13.14 and 15.
Don't blame the vast majority of sex tourists like us who visit to take part in legal prostitution with adult ladies.
Rebel Monger
10-30-18, 00:30
https://beta.ctvnews.ca/features/w5-investigates-the-child-sex-industry-in-a-caribbean-tourist-de.html
Just a reminder to always make a right choice and if in doubt to walk away.I went to Sosua quite a few times and never a minor was offered to me.
Those stories are mostly BS and what they do is to put it out there to attract those who get involved in that activity and with it, once they arrive and start looking for the minors and get in trouble, the non-existent BS is validated.
Minors are abused in the Dominican Republic by Dominican males.
I never saw this in the past because I was not looking for it. However after reading another report very similar I opened my eyes and low and behold I saw some [CodeWord903] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord903) girls. They were not aggressive. European guys were moving toward them. The girls were 14 or 15 by their looks. I was in denial of this activity for many years. The girls sort a float around waiting to be approached. The numbers are very small and the problem is exagerated.
I went to Sosua quite a few times and never a minor was offered to me.
Those stories are mostly BS and what they do is to put it out there to attract those who get involved in that activity and with it, once they arrive and start looking for the minors and get in trouble, the non-existent BS is validated.
Minors are abused in the Dominican Republic by Dominican males.
A working girl was murdered by a customer. More info to come.
A working girl was murdered by a customer. More info to come.Friend of mine sent me a video of the guy and his partner Carrying the girl out of the hotel.
Friend of mine sent me a video of the guy and his partner Carrying the girl out of the hotel.I saw the video as well. Those two pieces of garbage must be psychotic. They kill the girl and then carry her out nonchalantly out in the open. A few girls I keep in contact with down there mentioned that all the girls are shook. Apparently, the dude who killed the girl was refusing to tell the police where the body was. They were able to find it anyway. Looks like they had dumped the poor girl somewhere in the midst of a lot of trees. Picture was disturbing. The girl's skirt was down to her ankles. I wouldn't be surprised if those animals raped her before leaving her body there.
It goes to show you that this world has so many pieces of garbage in it. Useless leeches ugly from the out and in. It's one thing to be an asshole, it's another to prey on those trying to make a living with whatever means they have. I hope those pieces of shit rot in a Dominican jail and experience all the glories of third world incarceration.
This the first time that I know of a monger hurting one of the working girls. I doubt there will be any consequences to us. I will be on the ground next week.
Friend of mine sent me a video of the guy and his partner Carrying the girl out of the hotel.
Mr Enternational
11-02-18, 02:45
This the first time that I know of a monger hurting one of the working girls. I doubt there will be any consequences to us. I will be on the ground next week.Yeah. It is usually the foreigners being killed by Dominicans!
Ipanema Carioca
11-02-18, 05:16
This is the girl who was murdered at the Alicia Beach Hotel.
Yeah. It is usually the foreigners being killed by Dominicans!I never want to correct Mr. Enternational because he is on target most of the time. However on this one I have to correct him. I have first-hand knowledge of what's going on there because I have a the Haitian girl that knows what's going on. She forwarded to me a picture of the guys passport he is a US citizen but he was born in Nigeria. The way it is he is in the US Military. Most of the people there think he's going to pay his way to get out of this shit! The guys around 38 years old.
This is the girl who was murdered at the Alicia Beach Hotel.I'm surprised the Dominican authorities were able to apprehend the two so quickly. You'd think the assholes would have been on the first flight out of town after dumping her body.
Game Over:
https://youtu.be/g1SN1t-hwKY
https://youtu.be/g1SN1t-hwKY
I have heard from 2 sources that he stangled her during sex. He is begging for a lawyer. In many cases the coverup is worse then the crime. He did not tell the authorities where the body was. They have video of him carrying a body out of the hotel. The body was found in a field. This boy is toast. Iam not sure if they have capitol punishment but if they do this bouy is done.
Game Over:
https://youtu.be/g1SN1t-hwKY
https://youtu.be/g1SN1t-hwKY
I have heard from 2 sources that he stangled her during sex. He is begging for a lawyer. In many cases the coverup is worse then the crime. He did not tell the authorities where the body was. They have video of him carrying a body out of the hotel. The body was found in a field. This boy is toast. Iam not sure if they have capitol punishment but if they do this bouy is done.Who took the video? The hotel cams? Where was the hotel security guard?
Who took the video? The hotel cams? Where was the hotel security guard?https://youtu.be/vkPgFtkWnfU
https://youtu.be/vkPgFtkWnfUIs this the old Sousa sunrise hotel?
Who took the video? The hotel cams? Where was the hotel security guard?I stayed at that hotel last year and many times if you come in after 2 AM, there is no security guard at the front desk. You can just open the front door and walk up the stairs o your room with your girl. You can also walk out the front door without security stopping you, probably the reason why they felt safe carrying her out of the building.
I definitely wont be staying there again. Imagine staying in the room where he strangled her to death! HELL NO!!
I stayed at that hotel last year and many times if you come in after 2 AM, there is no security guard at the front desk. You can just open the front door and walk up the stairs o your room with your girl. You can also walk out the front door without security stopping you, probably the reason why they felt safe carrying her out of the building.I will be staying there in a couple of weeks. When I was there last March, when entering the hotel, the door was always locked and the security guard opened the door to let me in. He always hung out by the main entrance. Thus, where was the fucker when those two pieces of shit walked out of the hotel with the body!
They should both rot in a DR prison!
I have heard from 2 sources that he stangled her during sex. He is begging for a lawyer. In many cases the coverup is worse then the crime. He did not tell the authorities where the body was. They have video of him carrying a body out of the hotel. The body was found in a field. This boy is toast. Iam not sure if they have capitol punishment but if they do this bouy is done.This should remind us that prostitution is the world's most dangerous profession, by far. More dangerous than soldiers, cops, loggers, and the rest.
Especially in the DR. A 100 lb girl, with no pimp, driver, or mamasan, going off the street with a 200 lb strange client (ot two) is at far greater risk, than is her client.
Many of whom already hold them in contempt and consider them lazy and worthless to begin with!
PUERTO PLATA. - A 36-year-old man from Nigeria was detained by the National Police for being the main suspect in killing a 29-year-old girl in the tourist town of Sosúa.
The prevented is Oluseye Adesegun who according to his passport number 545842454 holds US citizenship, which arrived in the country as a tourist and resides temporarily at the Alicia Beach Hotel, located on the dead end street of that Puerto Rican town.
According to the investigations, the foreigner was sharing a drink last Monday with the name Zaida Yonay Rosario Paniagua, in a night entertainment center of Pedro Clisante street in the El Batey sector.
After a few drinks, the couple went to the hotel to have sex, agreeing a payment of 2 thousand 500 pesos, but after finishing a night of passion, the foreigner was only giving 500 pesos to the lady, a situation that generated a fight where the female got the worst part after being hit and strangled.
A security camera of the Alicia Beach Hotel captured the moment when the Nigerian took out the vanished lady and took an unknown path, for which the relatives of Zaida Yonay Rosario Paniagua, who is the mother of four children, reported her as missing.
Before the indignation of the inhabitants in the municipality of Sosúa, the authorities undertook the investigations and in the hours of Thursday afternoon the corpse of Rosario Paniagua was found putrefied in the bushes of a vacant lot, located at the entrance to the Jardíand Deportivo sector. Islabóand place in the municipal district of Cabarete.
In the act of lifting the lifeless body of Zaida Yonay Rosario Paniagua, the acting legal doctor certifies that the cause of his death was due to severe cranial encephalic polytraumatism, multiple open wounds in the mouth and feet, and also direct strangulation that left him traits of violence in the neck.
Basketball101
11-03-18, 17:18
PUERTO PLATA. - A 36-year-old man from Nigeria was detained by the National Police for being the main suspect in killing a 29-year-old girl in the tourist town of Sosa.
The prevented is Oluseye Adesegun who according to his passport number 545842454 holds US citizenship, which arrived in the country as a tourist and resides temporarily at the Alicia Beach Hotel, located on the dead end street of that Puerto Rican town.
According to the investigations, the foreigner was sharing a drink last Monday with the name Zaida Yonay Rosario Paniagua, in a night entertainment center of Pedro Clisante street in the El Batey sector..2 peoples lives drastically changed over less than 50 dollars.
PUERTO PLATA. - A 36-year-old man from Nigeria was detained by the National Police for being the main suspect in killing a 29-year-old girl in the tourist town of Sosa.
The prevented is Oluseye Adesegun who according to his passport number 545842454 holds US citizenship, which arrived in the country as a tourist and resides temporarily at the Alicia Beach Hotel, located on the dead end street of that Puerto Rican town.
According to the investigations, the foreigner was sharing a drink last Monday with the name Zaida Yonay Rosario Paniagua, in a night entertainment center of Pedro Clisante street in the El Batey sector.
After a few drinks, the couple went to the hotel to have sex, agreeing a payment of 2 thousand 500 pesos, but after finishing a night of passion, the foreigner was only giving 500 pesos to the lady, a situation that generated a fight where the female got the worst part after being hit and strangled.
A security camera of the Alicia Beach Hotel captured the moment when the Nigerian took out the vanished lady and took an unknown path, for which the relatives of Zaida Yonay Rosario Paniagua, who is the mother of four children, reported her as missing.
Before the indignation of the inhabitants in the municipality of Sosa, the authorities undertook the investigations and in the hours of Thursday afternoon the corpse of Rosario Paniagua was found putrefied in the bushes of a vacant lot, located at the entrance to the Jardand Deportivo sector. Islaband place in the municipal district of Cabarete.
In the act of lifting the lifeless body of Zaida Yonay Rosario Paniagua, the acting legal doctor certifies that the cause of his death was due to severe cranial encephalic polytraumatism, multiple open wounds in the mouth and feet, and also direct strangulation that left him traits of violence in the neck.Alicia hotel claims in an e Mail that the girl was alive when the guy carried her out. Maybe their security camera showed. But to hurt somebody for 2000 pesos badly shows total disregard for civility and maybe this guy has criminal past Let this be a lesson to all mongers if you do not have money to give do not go. I have encountered many guys argue about 10-20 dollars for no reason who at the same time do not mind boozing up.
I have heard from 2 sources that he stangled her during sex. He is begging for a lawyer. In many cases the coverup is worse then the crime. He did not tell the authorities where the body was. They have video of him carrying a body out of the hotel. The body was found in a field. This boy is toast. Iam not sure if they have capitol punishment but if they do this bouy is done.You're right especially as the US military boys are despised around the world.
Mr Enternational
11-03-18, 19:09
But to hurt somebody for 2000 pesos badly shows total disregard for civility and maybe this guy has criminal pastI totally agree. Instead of trying to hurt him over 2000 pesos she should have just taken the 500 and went home. Looks like she bit off more than she could chew trying to fight this criminal, that obviously had more strength than her, over a measly 40 bucks.
I bet they agreed on 2500 and once she got to the room she either tried to up the price or she grabbed a condom for the BJ. He got pissed, handed her 500 pesos, told her to leave and the argument started. This scenario must happen thousands of times every month in Sosua and I bet my last dollar this is exactly what happened between the two.
One thing the article didn't mention was how many days passed between the time they killed her and when they arrested him. If she was found all the way in Caberete than that means he had a car. So did he decide to stay in Sosua and party for a few days instead of getting out of town and trying to leave the country? I would imagine that it took many days for the police to figure out what tourist she left with and what hotel she went to (That hotel doesn't copy or hold the girls ID) so I can't understand why the guy stayed in Sosua. Very Strange!!
Mr Enternational
11-03-18, 21:02
I bet they agreed on 2500 and once she got to the room she either tried to up the price or she grabbed a condom for the BJ. He got pissed, handed her 500 pesos, told her to leave and the argument started. This scenario must happen thousands of times every month in Sosua and I bet my last dollar this is exactly what happened between the two.
Nice to see someone thinking with a level head instead of an emotional response that it is always the male's fault, the male should have known better, the male should accept any treatment thrown at him by the female, and the innocent female can do no wrong. And that is how we found ourselves in the middle of some me too bullshit in my country.
Nice to see someone thinking with a level head instead of an emotional response that it is always the male's fault, the male should have known better, the male should accept any treatment thrown at him by the female, and the innocent female can do no wrong. And that is how we found ourselves in the middle of some me too bullshit in my country.Law 19.
Know Who You’re Dealing with – Do Not Offend the Wrong Person
There are many different kinds of people in the world, and you can never assume that everyone will react to your strategies in the same way. Deceive or outmaneuver some people and they will.
Spend the rest of their lives seeking revenge. They are wolves in lambs' clothing. Choose your victims and opponents carefully, then – never offend or deceive the wrong person.
I bet they agreed on 2500 and once she got to the room she either tried to up the price or she grabbed a condom for the BJ. He got pissed, handed her 500 pesos, told her to leave and the argument started. This scenario must happen thousands of times every month in Sosua and I bet my last dollar this is exactly what happened between the two.
One thing the article didn't mention was how many days passed between the time they killed her and when they arrested him. If she was found all the way in Caberete than that means he had a car. So did he decide to stay in Sosua and party for a few days instead of getting out of town and trying to leave the country? I would imagine that it took many days for the police to figure out what tourist she left with and what hotel she went to (That hotel doesn't copy or hold the girls ID) so I can't understand why the guy stayed in Sosua. Very Strange!!And here we have mongers fantasizing about what MUST have happened!
It obviously was her fault.
She asked for it, right, you idiots?
Bunch of sick fuck mongers!
And here we have mongers fantasizing about what MUST have happened!
It obviously was her fault.
She asked for it, right, you idiots?Agreed and that is why I never have to worry of running into those types in the real hot clubs of the DR because they will have no chance and no clue.
Manizales911
11-03-18, 21:44
I will be staying there in a couple of weeks. When I was there last March, when entering the hotel, the door was always locked and the security guard opened the door to let me in. He always hung out by the main entrance. Thus, where was the fucker when those two pieces of shit walked out of the hotel with the body!
They should both rot in a DR prison!A hotel employee has been arrested for helping dispose of the body.
Manizales911
11-03-18, 21:51
Nice to see someone thinking with a level head instead of an emotional response that it is always the male's fault, the male should have known better, the male should accept any treatment thrown at him by the female, and the innocent female can do no wrong. And that is how we found ourselves in the middle of some me too bullshit in my country.Bullshit, he already had a restraining order by another girl that he choked in February in Charamicos. The Dominicans will kill him in jail, I'll bet money on it.
I bet they agreed on 2500 and once she got to the room she either tried to up the price or she grabbed a condom for the BJ. He got pissed, handed her 500 pesos, told her to leave and the argument started. This scenario must happen thousands of times every month in Sosua and I bet my last dollar this is exactly what happened between the two.
One thing the article didn't mention was how many days passed between the time they killed her and when they arrested him. If she was found all the way in Caberete than that means he had a car. So did he decide to stay in Sosua and party for a few days instead of getting out of town and trying to leave the country? I would imagine that it took many days for the police to figure out what tourist she left with and what hotel she went to (That hotel doesn't copy or hold the girls ID) so I can't understand why the guy stayed in Sosua. Very Strange!!I bet he killed her in self defense, I hope that the poor guy will receive compensation for the pain that he have to go through because of that evil woman.
Alicia hotel claims in an e Mail that the girl was alive when the guy carried her out. Maybe their security camera showed. But to hurt somebody for 2000 pesos badly shows total disregard for civility and maybe this guy has criminal past Let this be a lesson to all mongers if you do not have money to give do not go. I have encountered many guys argue about 10-20 dollars for no reason who at the same time do not mind boozing up.My contact told me he beat the crap out of a Haitican girl a few days earlier once he got her to the room.
Ipanema Carioca
11-03-18, 22:33
I'm surprised the Dominican authorities were able to apprehend the two so quickly. You'd think the assholes would have been on the first flight out of town after dumping her body.The guy is known to be mentally unstable US vet. He probably was to paranoid to think straight to leave the country, and he thought he got away with disposing of the body.
I remember you bragging you were a pimp in your youth. I like to let sleeping dogs sleep. Who but you could defend guy who stangles a 100 pound girl who happens to have 4 kids for 40 dollars if that is the case.
Life has taught me that strangleing a girl to death is not a good thing. May be he should pretend he does understand Spanish and keep going to the airport. The DR does not have the death penalty but some street justice might be in order.
Nice to see someone thinking with a level head instead of an emotional response that it is always the male's fault, the male should have known better, the male should accept any treatment thrown at him by the female, and the innocent female can do no wrong. And that is how we found ourselves in the middle of some me too bullshit in my country.
Law 19.
Know Who Youre Dealing with Do Not Offend the Wrong Person
There are many different kinds of people in the world, and you can never assume that everyone will react to your strategies in the same way. Deceive or outmaneuver some people and they will.
Spend the rest of their lives seeking revenge. They are wolves in lambs' clothing. Choose your victims and opponents carefully, then never offend or deceive the wrong person.Not sure what I just read?
(That hotel doesn't copy or hold the girls ID) so I can't understand why the guy stayed in Sosua. Very Strange!!Last March, the hotel did hold the chicas ID and after hours, the security guard held the ID.
I totally agree. Instead of trying to hurt him over 2000 pesos she should have just taken the 500 and went home. Looks like she bit off more than she could chew trying to fight this criminal, that obviously had more strength than her, over a measly 40 bucks.No matter what happened in the room, he had no right whatsoever to kill the chica! I've been in that situation a couple of times, and I just called for security.
You're right especially as the US military boys are despised around the world.Did you just use this thread to blast the US military; fucking sad to say the least. As a 27 year veteran, there are a few bad apples in the military, but overall they don't go around killing putas!
Mr Enternational
11-03-18, 23:50
I remember you bragging you were a pimp in your youth. I like to let sleeping dogs sleep. Who but you could defend guy who stangles a 100 pound girl who happens to have 4 kids for 40 dollars if that is the case.
Life has taught me that strangleing a girl to death is not a good thing. May be he should pretend he does understand Spanish and keep going to the airport. The DR does not have the death penalty but some street justice might be in order.Seeing that none of us were there we are all speculating that because a female death occured then the male is 100% guilty of an unprovoked attack. For all we know she could have been on his ass like a spider monkey and that was the only way he could stop her. Talk about a biased jury!
It has been said that the guy confessed after the police beat him. Well shit, our police get people to confess to stuff they didn't do without even beating them. So to me that is not saying much. Of course I am not for killing people, but when you are defending yourself a death is a possible outcome
The guy is known to be mentally unstable US vet. He probably was to paranoid to think straight to leave the country, and he thought he got away with disposing of the body.US military are known to have anger management issues (putting it mildly). Shit like this has happened all over the world.
Where the reporting of having an argument over a payment comes from? Just think about it. This is not the first death at this property. Something does not make sense in this tragic incident. Just a reminder to escort your lady to a security guard outside or to a strip and make sure she is OK, and always have your local lawyer and funds at hand just in case. Some reporting on youtube with respect to what happened is simply callous and atrocious.
And here we have mongers fantasizing about what MUST have happened!
It obviously was her fault.
She asked for it, right, you idiots?
Bunch of sick fuck mongers!You are responding with emotion, not with logic!! No where in my post did I say she deserved to be murdered or advocate violence against women. Like any investigation, its important to know what happened before the crime was committed.
Its not only important to know what happened, its also important to know WHY something occurred. What was the person's mindset at the time of the crime so we can determine what went wrong. (An argument over money seems like the likely factor based on all the trip reports of encounters that went bad with the girls). I am perplexed as to why the man stayed in Sosua, it just makes no sense that he didn't take off to SD and catch the first flight out of the country.
You are responding with emotion, not with logic!! No where in my post did I say she deserved to be murdered or advocate violence against women. Like any investigation, its important to know what happened before the crime was committed.
Its not only important to know what happened, its also important to know WHY something occurred. What was the person's mindset at the time of the crime so we can determine what went wrong. (An argument over money seems like the likely factor based on all the trip reports of encounters that went bad with the girls). I am perplexed as to why the man stayed in Sosua, it just makes no sense that he didn't take off to SD and catch the first flight out of the country.We do know that she was a "guest" in his hotel room, and she finished up battered and strangled to death!
You are right about one thing, I do get "emotional" about stuff like this.
You, on the other hand, are repeatedly "perplexed" only about why he did not make a complete getaway! Not a word for the victim, or her family.
To me, the answer is simple. A murderer doesn't think rationally. There's so many ways to resolve a dispute with a puta in your hotel room, short of murder and the disposal of the body!
You are trying to figure out why a murderer doesn't think straight. That's the only part that doesn't "make sense" to you!
I don't think we know what actually happened. The chicas.
Are saying he was paying extra to choke Chicas during sex. That alone is strange to me. The gringos seem to be saying she tried to rob him and he lost it. I don't know what the facts are. For sure the loss of life is sad. This dumbass is a poor example of an American and a veteran.
PUERTO PLATA. - A 36-year-old man from Nigeria was detained by the National Police for being the main suspect in killing a 29-year-old girl in the tourist town of Sosa.
The prevented is Oluseye Adesegun who according to his passport number 545842454 holds US citizenship, which arrived in the country as a tourist and resides temporarily at the Alicia Beach Hotel, located on the dead end street of that Puerto Rican town.
According to the investigations, the foreigner was sharing a drink last Monday with the name Zaida Yonay Rosario Paniagua, in a night entertainment center of Pedro Clisante street in the El Batey sector.
After a few drinks, the couple went to the hotel to have sex, agreeing a payment of 2 thousand 500 pesos, but after finishing a night of passion, the foreigner was only giving 500 pesos to the lady, a situation that generated a fight where the female got the worst part after being hit and strangled.
A security camera of the Alicia Beach Hotel captured the moment when the Nigerian took out the vanished lady and took an unknown path, for which the relatives of Zaida Yonay Rosario Paniagua, who is the mother of four children, reported her as missing.
Before the indignation of the inhabitants in the municipality of Sosa, the authorities undertook the investigations and in the hours of Thursday afternoon the corpse of Rosario Paniagua was found putrefied in the bushes of a vacant lot, located at the entrance to the Jardand Deportivo sector. Islaband place in the municipal district of Cabarete.
In the act of lifting the lifeless body of Zaida Yonay Rosario Paniagua, the acting legal doctor certifies that the cause of his death was due to severe cranial encephalic polytraumatism, multiple open wounds in the mouth and feet, and also direct strangulation that left him traits of violence in the neck.located on the dead end street of that Puerto Rican town. And people are supposed to accept everything in this posting as credible / accurate?
located on the dead end street of that Puerto Rican town. And people are supposed to accept everything in this posting as credible / accurate?". In the tourist town of Sosa. " As in Sammy.
We really cannot know what happened. There appear to have been at least three eye witnesses to what happened in the hotel room, all with different versions, some of whom have reported directly to ISG forum members rather than to the investigating authorities. Perhaps the information from the recordings of the closed circuit TV cameras in the hotel room will also clarify matters. Perhaps she hanged herself while her client was in the shower.
What we can say with reasonable assuredness is that this awful event will be fuel for those entities within the Dominican Republic that want to discourage sex tourism via regulatory actions and legislation. It also will cast additional suspicion on African-American sex tourists, even though the man was an African who became an American. Dominicans do not make such fine distinctions, and tend to label all African-Americans and people from Africa with the same tag--Haitians!
I saw video in which the arrested man was shouting "abogado, abogado" indicating that he wanted an attorney. (He might have been hungry and asking for an avocado, but I doubt it.) The greatest mystery to me is why he did not lawyer up BEFORE he was arrested, especially if there were mitigating circumstances such as self-defence that he wanted to put on the record. Most likely the answer is that he is in some way mentally deranged. However, without a doubt a US embassy officer will visit him in custody, as they must, bring him a hamburger, an invite to the embassy Thanksgiving dinner, and a few suggestions regarding legal representation on the present charges and recommendations on eliminating the DR from future vacation plans in the event of him having any free time on his schedule during the next 20 years.
StripperMan
11-04-18, 14:14
It's very sad to see someone die like this. Especially leaving behind 4 kids I believe.
Obviously some major disagreement happened that erupted into violence. What the disagreement was about is unknown, or not been made public. One thing to me is very clear. The guy was caught on tape carrying the body out. Innocent people don't try to get rid of bodies. This was manslaughter at the very least.
Seeing that none of us were there we are all speculating that because a female death occured then the male is 100% guilty of an unprovoked attack. For all we know she could have been on his ass like a spider monkey and that was the only way he could stop her. Talk about a biased jury!
It has been said that the guy confessed after the police beat him. Well shit, our police get people to confess to stuff they didn't do without even beating them. So to me that is not saying much. Of course I am not for killing people, but when you are defending yourself a death is a possible outcome
You are responding with emotion, not with logic!! No where in my post did I say she deserved to be murdered or advocate violence against women. Like any investigation, its important to know what happened before the crime was committed.
Its not only important to know what happened, its also important to know WHY something occurred. What was the person's mindset at the time of the crime so we can determine what went wrong. (An argument over money seems like the likely factor based on all the trip reports of encounters that went bad with the girls). I am perplexed as to why the man stayed in Sosua, it just makes no sense that he didn't take off to SD and catch the first flight out of the country.You both are correct about the importance of conducting a thorough and proper investigation and not just assuming he killed her unprovoked. In the DR it may not make a bit of difference on how or why it happened, or change his fate. She was a local / Dominican and he was a foreigner. Its quite possible this could have happened elsewhere unlike the DR, and an investigation might have proven that the woman attacked him 1st, and he defended himself. In such a place, the weight of her actions vs his may be taken into consideration.
Obviously people who take sides based on whatever motivates them, it's to be expected. Many will have a tendency to be super biased and not objective, leaning towards feeling sorry for the female. Enough men are wired that way. A female can do no wrong. And when she does, her actions can easily be explained away. Questioning motive and accuracy of behavior (of both parties) leading up to an outcome does not mean anyone is claiming somebody deserves what they got. Or they asked for it. But a proper investigation can lead to the facts. It may eliminate or include the possibility of the deceased having initiated a physical attack and not the other way around. Again, because it's the DR, it may not make a bit of difference, especially to the deceased family, friends and locals.
Now if the shit was reversed, and he was killed during a fight, and she got some people to dump his body, it would probably be very quiet? His known past with other women, certain people would say he got what he deserved. Nobody would ever use or question her bad history or indiscretions against other foreigners. Instead her past would be accepted as an excuse or reason for her behavior, and it was his fault for messing around with the wrong chica.
It would have been said, that he should have known better. He should have paid her. He asked for it by trying to short her. Bottom line, when you are a man, you won't ever be let off the hook (even if you are right or innocent ) as long as women are seldom held accountable. Even when a woman initiates an attack, a man is always expected to have restraint. Women mostly, are not held to that standard when dealing with a man. He's going to find out how true that is very soon.
Mr Enternational
11-04-18, 14:31
It also will cast additional suspicion on African-American sex tourists, even though the man was an African who became an American. Dominicans do not make such fine distinctions, and tend to label all African-Americans and people from Africa with the same tag--Haitians!That is where you have it wrong. All of those news videos and articles are labeling him as Nigerian. I think the only indication that he is American was in that photo that contained his US passport.
Where the reporting of having an argument over a payment comes from? Just think about it. This is not the first death at this property. Something does not make sense in this tragic incident. Just a reminder to escort your lady to a security guard outside or to a strip and make sure she is OK, and always have your local lawyer and funds at hand just in case. Some reporting on youtube with respect to what happened is simply callous and atrocious.Are you suggesting that perhaps the security guard at the hotel was extorting the chicas, which led to an argument about money, the death of the girl, and the security guard helping to dispose of the body? Sounds like the plot of a crime thriller, but in the DR life is lived in the raw, and nothing can be ruled out.
That is where you have it wrong. All of those news videos and articles are labeling him as Nigerian. I think the only indication that he is American was in that photo that contained his US passport.Possession of a US passport is usually an indication of US citizenship. He could have moved to the US at the age of 2, or been born there, for all we know.
This is a link to a story about a famous murder in the UK in which two men of Nigerian family origins butchered a soldier in the street in London.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3629582/lee-rigby-death-killers-michael-adebolago-adebowale-age/
Mr Enternational
11-04-18, 15:04
What we can say with reasonable assurednessThis room reminds me of a movie we had to watch in 12th grade Sociology class, 12 Angry Men. I don't wish anyone to have most people in this room on their jury should they ever need one. In my country it used to not be what you knew or think you knew, but what you could prove. That shit is fading away though to be just what people feel.
What we can say with reasonable assuredness is that this awful event will be fuel for those entities within the Dominican Republic that want to discourage sex tourism via regulatory actions and legislation. It also will cast additional suspicion on African-American sex tourists, even though the man was an African who became an American. Dominicans do not make such fine distinctions, and tend to label all African-Americans and people from Africa with the same tag--Haitians!I wouldn't worry about it. Sex tourism can die a slow death, or get reconstructed in order to appease whomever. But prostitution is going to be around for a long time. Especially because the DR government can't or won't be able to take care of their Dominican citizens that need help without sex tourism and their participants.
"will cast additional suspicion on African-American sex tourists etc". Hmmm maybe? Maybe on the positive, some dudes will be more careful who they attempt to hire for a night of passion. And perhaps this incident may make enough chicas more cautious about getting into an altercation with a client. Sometimes you have to see potential positives in things. Don't always focus on the negative.
Thats why I'm not totally disgusted by the Cestur police harassing chicas. The positive of it, is seeing a lot of chicas more anxious of securing a client, potentially being more reasonable in negotiations. I've experienced and heard reports from mongers who had chicas who didn't want to go back on the street because they were afraid of getting caught, or that it may take too long to score another client. This happened more with newer chicas to the Sosua scene. Especially Haitians and fresh 18 yr old Dominicans. These chicas concerns can be used to the mongers advantage.
To the chicas (vets and hardcore) who don't care one way or the other, they can take their chances with the police, and hope they get someone to pay what they expect. Chances are, those chicas who tend to elevate their value and hold out looking for a big score (relatively speaking) , may prove not to be good providers that mongers should seek for good service. They are aiming to get paid, not provide good service. They may have already assumed that their transaction with a client is a one time deal. So they aint looking to impress anybody for a comeback. The look, the facade, is the main impression to be made in order to get that one transaction in the bag. Be on the lookout for those types.
I tried so hard to stay out of this conversation but here I am. First my condolences go out to the victims family, hopefully the African American business owners will come together and make some kind of humanitarian effort to assist the family with their loss.
I tried to keep an open mind and just stick with the facts but the conspiracy theories I heard on back channels had me thinking.
Initially I had a few questions: 1) In the video of them walking down the street, they were walking to the Europa hotel end not to the Alicia end which is in the complete opposite direction. 2) Where is the video of them entering the hotel together? 3) Its many big dark skinned brothers with bald heads walking around Sosua, could they have the wrong guy to quickly close the case for tourism?
Then I heard from a girl there that the girl had a Haitian boyfriend and he killed her and fled to Haiti, and the police grabbed the wrong guy.
But then I saw the video and it looked like the suspect from the back, where is the face video of him entering the hotel.
Now I hear he had a problem earlier this year with the same circumstances and others are now coming forward about him. Also I hear it's a new investigation going on internationally to see if its others and he might have been a serial killer.
The guy has a mental problem but that won't matter in the DR, but he appears to be a monster and I can no longer look at the conspiracy theories and more.
Again my sympathy goes to the family.
Mr Enternational
11-04-18, 15:20
Possession of a US passport is usually an indication of US citizenship. He could have moved to the US at the age of 2, or been born there, for all we know.
Of course it does, but that is not the point. You said that Black Americans would have it hard after this because this guy is Black American. But the local news outlets are not referring to him as American, but as Nigerian. So in everyone's mind he is not American, he is Nigerian. Which would make it more of a hard time for Nigerians rather than Black Americans.
". In the tourist town of Sosa. " As in Sammy.
We really cannot know what happened. There appear to have been at least three eye witnesses to what happened in the hotel room, all with different versions, some of whom have reported directly to ISG forum members rather than to the investigating authorities. Perhaps the information from the recordings of the closed circuit TV cameras in the hotel room will also clarify matters. Perhaps she hanged herself while her client was in the shower.....One thing is for sure, this poor perp should not be relying on a monger lawyer or a monger amateur "psychiatrist" to handle his case!
Might have the jury laughing over a claim that it was self defense from a threatening puta.
They might ask why he and an accomplice dumped the battered body in a remote field, and went on about his business!
LOL.
There are no clear path in mongering. Disputes about services, length of stay, money surfaces all the time. Only one time a Thai girl slapped me because I was more than friendly with her friend. This happened in the room and I slapped her back telling her never ever hit me. She calmed down. Other than that never had any physical altercations with anybody. Ofcourse there were issues like a ladyboy came into my room pretending to be a girl. When I told him to leave he wanted money. To diffuse the situation I gave him some taxi money. I could have held my ground and called security but my mind clearly says do not get into trouble over small amounts of money. And there were girls few times who came to the room and refused sex saying they do not do that. When I said they need to leave they get into an attitude saying they spent money to get here etc. Best thing to give small taxi money and get rid of them. Never had a girl demanding lot of money if she did not have sex with me. Some girls demanded more money than agreed in the morning, so I just add little to get rid of her. Never met a mercenary type demanding lot of money. Of course there are many of them around. Another thing I always discuss money up front with bar girls. And on dating sites sometimes girl ask that she needs this much. Yo agree or not is my own decision. I would rather go home alone if I did not find the right offer or right girl.
When you land in a foreign country you are already disadvantaged. Especially when you are going for mongering locals including administration hates you. But the countries need money from tourism. So they tolerate us.
Every now and then we hear of money dispute between a monger and the girl in a hotel and police were called to intervene. If there are no physical altercation police will generally tell the guy to give little more money. Hotel security will say the same. IMHO you better settle before police or security are called.
Irrespective of what really happened the guy had no right to hit the girl or strangle the girl. I do not believe it was a choking incident during sex. Bottom line is there was definitely a big fight and the girl got the worst of it. Seeing pictures of the guy being dragged he did not look injured. Having stayed in Hotel Alicia before I believe there are no room phones unless they put it in now. The guy could have ran out of the room and get the security to handle the issue instead of physical altercation. I believe this happened in the morning and according to a e mail I got he assisted the girl from the hotel to his car. What happened after only he knows. He cannot blame being drunk unless he drank in the morning. E mail says girl was not killed in the hotel. Maybe bruised. Maybe she threatened to go to the police and he strangled her in the car and dumped her body. Forensic science and security cameras have come a long way from mafia days for people to escape from murder. There was no way for him to escape the country because there are witnesses who saw them together and probably security had the I. The. Besides I am sure the girl called her family to let them know which hotel she is staying. Generally girls with kids do not stay whole night unless they need money badly like this girl who had 4 kids. Murder cases get the highest priority in every country nowadays. Especially if it is connected to a foreigner goes above that. It is a big question if US embassy will offer help. It is not a given. They will wait till this guy is beaten to shit and recover under the guise of investigation. Even after it will be a cursory visit. You. S embassy will not interfere with local murder investigation unless it is high profile case and unless they determine he was framed. Too many witnesses in this case.
Most foreigners behave in other countries. There are some bad apples who think the country is shit and the girls as lowest category to be abused and played with. Respect to any human being is a must irrespective of what they do to survive. Once I saw a foreigner beaten to pulp by local thugs in Bangkok because he refused to pay bar bill. This was in front of a crowd in pat pong. Police came and took him to hospital. Assailants just walked away. Unfortunately this happens often with foreigners who think they can do anything and get away with it.
It is always better to be civil, smile, have fun, loose some money and go home in peace.
Ipanema Carioca
11-04-18, 15:37
". However, without a doubt a US embassy officer will visit him in custody, as they must, bring him a hamburger, an invite to the embassy Thanksgiving dinner, and a few suggestions regarding legal representation on the present charges and recommendations on eliminating the DR from future vacation plans in the event of him having any free time on his schedule during the next 20 years.I talked to the guy's sister. He is retired military with a PTSD discharge from his time in Iraq. I do not know if he has military ties except through the VA hospital. The US Embassy is involved, and they gave her a list of DR attorneys. The fella resides in TX. In his passport, he listed a family contact for emergencies. The attached photos are of him stripping naked in front of Super Pola Market. Before the please arrived he put his closes on and walked away as you see in the photos.
.................... It also will cast additional suspicion on African-American sex tourists.......................................That's rather myopic or perhaps wishful thinking. Who knows the mindset of the Dominican authorities in that regard? Will they target American sex tourists as a whole? What we are sure about is that the authorities are bent on eliminating sex tourism in Sosua and the upbeat voices for mongering in Sosua just took a beating.
Irrespective of what really happened the guy had no right to hit the girl or strangle the girl. I do not believe it was a choking incident during sex. Bottom line is there was definitely a big fight and the girl got the worst of it.Many a female lost their lives or got seriously hurt believing that a man has no right to hit them, even if they hit the men 1st. When females use that philosophy, challenge and / or miscalculate who they're dealing with, you can have outcomes like this where the females end up losing the most.
This chica was not one of the bad ones. She gave good service and did play games.
Mr Enternational
11-04-18, 16:34
Many a female lost their lives or got seriously hurt believing that a man has no right to hit them, even if they hit the men 1st. When females use that philosophy, challenge and / or miscalculate who they're dealing with, you can have outcomes like this where the females end up losing the most.Exactly. If I run up and start hitting Shaq Attack and he turns around and pummels me, then I deserved it. If a woman runs up and starts hitting me and I knock the shit out of her then I have no right to hit a female. What kind of... A mf has a right to do whatever they have to in order to defend themselves against anyone irrespective of their gender.
Mr Enternational
11-04-18, 16:39
This chica was not one of the bad ones. She gave good service and did play games.And you know this because? It seems you are forgetting the main tenant of mongering. Your Mileage May Vary. Same as I posted a few years ago on the chick that I took because Tomjackin was familiar with her and had not had any problems with her. Broad tried to scam me though and the cops sent her packing. On any given day anybody could do anything.
P. S. You couldn't cut Lee Hardy's name out of the picture before posting it?
What we are sure about is that the authorities are bent on eliminating sex tourism in Sosua and the upbeat voices for mongering in Sosua just took a beating.How so are they bent on eliminating sex tourism? How do we know the goal is to eliminate sex tourism? And not the authorities simply being concerned and embarrassed over the image that sex tourism supposedly projects under their jurisdiction? How do we know that whatever measures and rhetoric that is in the works arent merely steps to give the appearance of being concerned about sex tourism, but in reality nothing really changes?
How are places like Black Beards and Oasis still allowed to operate if authorities in those areas are bent on eliminating sex tourism? Are we to believe that the elimination of sex tourism is only a concern in Sosua? What measures have authorities taken towards eliminating sex tourism in Sosua? Telling certain types of businesses that they will have to move to the other end of town? Arresting chicas to stay in a jail overnight, no record, no court date? Back on the street after paying a fine, or freed in the morning and back on the street later that night? These are the steps to eliminating sex tourism? And men are free to walk about with no hassles from law enforcement? Only females are scrutinized for not having a male escort? These are steps to eliminating sex tourism?
Are the businesses in Sosua complaining about all of these sex tourists lurking around in Sosua? Or is it that anybody who is in office would have to give the appearance of giving a shit, if pressured to produce results? I don't claim to know what the future holds for mongers or sex tourism, but I don't suspect prostitution will be going away anytime soon. We can change the name if were so concerned about the label "sex tourist or sex tourism." Lets just say men of all ilk come to the DR to enjoy the country and enjoy intermingling with it's inhabitants. Yeah, that's sounds much better. Problem solved.
I tried so hard to stay out of this conversation but here I am. First my condolences go out to the victims family, hopefully the African American business owners will come together and make some kind of humanitarian effort to assist the family with their loss.
I tried to keep an open mind and just stick with the facts but the conspiracy theories I heard on back channels had me thinking.
Initially I had a few questions: 1) In the video of them walking down the street, they were walking to the Europa hotel end not to the Alicia end which is in the complete opposite direction. 2) Where is the video of them entering the hotel together? 3) Its many big dark skinned brothers with bald heads walking around Sosua, could they have the wrong guy to quickly close the case for tourism?
Then I heard from a girl there that the girl had a Haitian boyfriend and he killed her and fled to Haiti, and the police grabbed the wrong guy.
But then I saw the video and it looked like the suspect from the back, where is the face video of him entering the hotel.
Now I hear he had a problem earlier this year with the same circumstances and others are now coming forward about him. Also I hear it's a new investigation going on internationally to see if its others and he might have been a serial killer.
The guy has a mental problem but that won't matter in the DR, but he appears to be a monster and I can no longer look at the conspiracy theories and more.
Again my sympathy goes to the family.This is why a proper and thorough investigation needs to be conducted. To find out WHO WHEN WHERE WHY AND HOW. So far most of those variables have not been made clear and without leaving doubt.
This is why a proper and thorough investigation needs to be conducted. To find out WHO WHEN WHERE WHY AND HOW. So far most of those variables have not been made clear and without leaving doubt.In third world countries there will not any thorough investigation. They got their guy and open and shut case. In the very unlikely case a guy will walk in and say he did it. Short of that no hope.
The guy and the girl were definitely stayed at Alicia Beach Hotel. Not Europa as another poster mentioned. This has been confirmed to me by Alicia Beach Hotel.
Manizales911
11-04-18, 20:50
Possession of a US passport is usually an indication of US citizenship. He could have moved to the US at the age of 2, or been born there, for all we know.
This is a link to a story about a famous murder in the UK in which two men of Nigerian family origins butchered a soldier in the street in London.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3629582/lee-rigby-death-killers-michael-adebolago-adebowale-age/It is entirely possible that he has never stepped foot in the USA And was not born in the USA And is still a USA Citizen with a passport if one of his parents is a USA Citizen. My daughter has a USA Passport and was born in Colombia and has never stepped foot in the USA In the video he does not directly claim to be USA Military, he just exclaims: "USA Military".
How so are they bent on eliminating sex tourism? How do we know the goal is to eliminate sex tourism? And not the authorities simply being concerned and embarrassed over the image that sex tourism supposedly projects under their jurisdiction? How do we know that whatever measures and rhetoric that is in the works arent merely steps to give the appearance of being concerned about sex tourism, but in reality nothing really changes?
Oh, come on. Of course there are competing interests and points of view within the DR, not to mention diplomatic pressure from the US, but why do you think the prosecutor in Puerto Plata took actions to close down Passions Club and that other brothel near the Europa? Obviously opposition to sex tourism that is clearly visible on the Internet is often masked as a desire to shut down "[CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908)", but what do you think the real reason for the legislation that shut down Craigslist personals and Backpage, and similar Web pages was? Agreed that the DR is an independent country, and not completely at the beck and call of Washington, but not to the extent of defiantly refusing carrots and accepting the short end of the stick.
While some businesses benefit from prostitution, other do not, so there is always a dialectic as to whether prostitution increases property values or is detrimental. In most places it is considered detrimental, though Sosua might possibly be an exception to the rule.
It is the same in Britain where prostitution is legal, as it is in the DR, but if the country became known as a destination for sex tourism, that would only add fuel to the arguments of those opposed to overt prostitution.
It is entirely possible that he has never stepped foot in the USA And was not born in the USA And is still a USA Citizen with a passport if one of his parents is a USA Citizen. My daughter has a USA Passport and was born in Colombia and has never stepped foot in the USA In the video he does not directly claim to be USA Military, he just exclaims: "USA Military".But I take it that your daughter is not 36 years old and filing taxes with the IRS each year, as she is required to do.
Rebel Monger
11-04-18, 21:25
...but why do you think the prosecutor in Puerto Plata took actions to close down Passions Club and that other brothel near the Europa? Mainly because prostitution is legal but pimping is not and those places were pimping the girls. I heard at least of a case were one of the girls who was working in Passion gave "it" to a guy for free, Peter found out and made her pay the "barfine. ".
but why do you think the prosecutor in Puerto Plata took actions to close down Passions Club and that other brothel near the Europa? Since when does closing down certain businesses operating illegally constitute eliminating sex tourism? Since those places closed down, has the pay for play game ceased to exist in Sosua? In fact how about the female sex tourists that come to the DR to get with the local men in the DR / Sosua? Did closing Pica Flor, Passions and CMP eliminate sex tourism for women sex tourists?
Has the internet been recently blocked in the DR so sex tourists have no access to DR inhabitants and vice versa? Except to show up in person? What are Puerto Plata officials doing about that? Since sex tourism is such a concern for officials, why are young children hustlers ( mostly boys under 18 ) still allowed to run amuck in Sosua all time of day and night when they should be home. The authorities dont care about them being in school? Or at least safe from these bad sex tourists. Recently some people came to Sosua to make a biased video about underaged girls abused through prostitution. Meanwhile small children are running amuck all up and down the street and that never ended up in their report / video? And I'm supposed to believe that some authorities are trying to eliminate sex tourism?
You ever gave that any thought? How is it, there are 3 sets of police out on patrol and nothing is done about the children running around begging and all up in a tourists grill? Think for a minute. If sex tourism was so much a threat, there is no way a mayor, law enforcement, local citizens etc would allow that to happen to local children. And only focus on selectively arresting chicas for just walking alone. They arent after them when they are with a client. Only when they are alone. They arrest them, Catch and release. If anything, you arrest a chica for actually engaging a man towards prostitution, not punishing them because they dont have a client yet. Your logic and in objectivity is flawed.
But I take it that your daughter is not 36 years old and filing taxes with the IRS each year, as she is required to do.I believe if you are living in a foreign country and earning less than the personal deductions does not need to file yearly even if she is a citizen of USA. Most citizens who retired in other countries need to file taxes if they are getting social security and Medicare. In this case probably this guy knocked a girl up and applied for USA citizenship for her. After genetic testing she was given one. Maybe this girl is young and will wait till she is 18 to come here.
Manizales911
11-05-18, 07:28
I believe if you are living in a foreign country and earning less than the personal deductions does not need to file yearly even if she is a citizen of USA. Most citizens who retired in other countries need to file taxes if they are getting social security and Medicare. In this case probably this guy knocked a girl up and applied for USA citizenship for her. After genetic testing she was given one. Maybe this girl is young and will wait till she is 18 to come here.The only point I was trying to make to Frannie was that just because he was a USA citizen does not mean that he ever lived there or even visited there. You are spot on about not necessarily needing to file taxes if one's income is low enough. You are also correct about my daughter, she is 9 years old and I got her a passport and social security number for two reasons, one so she can go to a USA university when the time comes and also I can claim her as a dependent when I file for Social Security when I turn 62 in a few months and will receive an additional 1000-1200 dollars a month until she is 19 which will go towards her education, thank you Uncle Sam for that extra $120,000 + dollars. Maybe some of you broke mofo's should knock up a chica or two and cash in.
The only point I was trying to make to Frannie was that just because he was a USA citizen does not mean that he ever lived there or even visited there. You are spot on about not necessarily needing to file taxes if one's income is low enough. You are also correct about my daughter, she is 9 years old and I got her a passport and social security number for two reasons, one so she can go to a USA university when the time comes and also I can claim her as a dependent when I file for Social Security when I turn 62 in a few months and will receive an additional 1000-1200 dollars a month until she is 19 which will go towards her education, thank you Uncle Sam for that extra $120,000 + dollars. Maybe some of you broke mofo's should knock up a chica or two and cash in.Good for you to step up and take care of your responsibilities. Under your retirement investment plan Uncle Sam will take care of another child for you.
It is not just the matter of planting the seed but filing all the necessary papers with the embassy to legitimizing your child.
Arrived yesterday. Staying at famous or infamous Alicia hotel. Superior king bed room is very nice with nice bathroom. Split a / see and plenty of hot water. They have re modeled the rooms and seems like run very well. Room rate 65 dollars include breakfast for one.
All these talks about Sosua dying is not true. Plenty of chicas all over of every imaginable size and color. All clubs are crowded in the evenings. Classico was packed. No police in sight.
Had couple of drinks surveying the scene downstairs from classicoes. Plenty of girls with large boobs which make DCups day. Some obviously padded but Latina women are known for big boobs. Got talking to couple. One girl wanted 150 dollars for toda la noche. Dumped her. Next one was willing to go for 4000 for all night. When she heard that I was staying at Alivia she was afraid and would not go. She suggested Cabana but I declined. There were others who were very pushy. Finally got talking to a nice girl from Santo Domingo, slim with nice size boobs, no padding. She said some story about having a job there and makes weekend trips here. Bought her drinks went upstairs, danced to lousy music. Back in the room very much of a GFE. Clean, tight, no smell whatsoever which I am very sensitive to. Damage is 4000 pesos.
In the morning after she left breakfast which was good, got some fruits, coconut water, massage, manicure and pedicure. Did not sleep very well last night with all the action. This girl was real horny and many a time she got on top and hammered away. Not much English.
Took a ride to Cabarete but seems like this is a low season for tourists. Let us see what tonight holds.
Hey fellow mongers! Haven't been to the DR or Sosua since March 2016, but feeling the onset of winter here and there are some good flight deals around at the moment, so why not? I was wondering though, has it changed a lot since then? I tried to read back many pages on the forum, but maybe there have been some big changes since then that I'm not aware of, either obvious to the eye or more hidden changes? I'm a bit worried by a lot of the negative posts here, especially the recent killing of a girl. Has the place honestly gone downhill, would I notice less women around than in 2016, are there less bars open where the chicks hang out at night, is it more dangerous? How is November as a month to go there, low season or picking up? When I was last there chicas charged 2000 - 2500 pesos for a short time visit (an hour +/-), has this gone up ?
There was a large bar almost opposite Classico's (sorry, forgot the name) which was alive and kicking from 2011 - 2015 with a great lineup of chica's, but in 2016 they were doing construction on it, has this re-opened? Anyone stayed at Club Residencial recently, is still a good place to stay? That's where I stayed the last couple of times I was there. Would appreciate your advice guys.
Hey fellow mongers! Haven't been to the DR or Sosua since March 2016, but feeling the onset of winter here and there are some good flight deals around at the moment, so why not? I was wondering though, has it changed a lot since then? I tried to read back many pages on the forum, but maybe there have been some big changes since then that I'm not aware of, either obvious to the eye or more hidden changes? I'm a bit worried by a lot of the negative posts here, especially the recent killing of a girl. Has the place honestly gone downhill, would I notice less women around than in 2016, are there less bars open where the chicks hang out at night, is it more dangerous? How is November as a month to go there, low season or picking up? When I was last there chicas charged 2000 - 2500 pesos for a short time visit (an hour +/-), has this gone up ?
There was a large bar almost opposite Classico's (sorry, forgot the name) which was alive and kicking from 2011 - 2015 with a great lineup of chica's, but in 2016 they were doing construction on it, has this re-opened? Anyone stayed at Club Residencial recently, is still a good place to stay? That's where I stayed the last couple of times I was there. Would appreciate your advice guys.To answer your questions, right now it seems slow season. Place opposit Classico is still closed. But there are many other bars where girls go. It is pretty crowded. Compared to previous years I did not see very good looking fair girls. They used to come from Santiago, La Vega area. Most girls I saw are locals who are there every night. Sosua keeps on changing. If you are coming in March who knows. Plenty of girls walking in the daytime also.
Right now the killing has not affected prostitution. Nor has it affected Black Americans. Plenty of Black Americans All over. It never used to be before.
Chica prices depend on the negotiation. Last night I did a ST for 2000. Previous night I did a LT for 4000.
Last night drove to Kviar Casino in Puerto Plata. Latched on to a nice tourist girl from Canada who was playing next to me. Few free drinks and she wanted to go to Disco. Made 3000 pesos. But that damn thing gets going after 1 am. Thinking I will not get anywhere with this one who is staying at AI. I said goodbye and came to Sosua. Hit the bar. Plenty of same girls I saw previous night. None that tickled my fancy. Met one girl fairly decent who wanted 3000ST. I was tired, so looking for only ST. In the room she acted shy. She took a quick shower. I do not know why some of these Dominican girls do not take a full shower, just washing their pussy only. After she did a CBJ and sex for about half hour. Nothing to write home compared to previous night. Had a nice sleep.
Last night I had a large Lobster here at Alicia for dinner. Cost was 600. Very good.
As stated by others the streets were filled with girls but not the stunners of days gone by. There were girls everywhere. I did several Haitian girls my 1st day. I had awesome BBj from all the girls. One of the girls walked off with my after shave. I was lazy and did not put things away. The Santiago stunners are not coming as much. I think the police actions are a big factor. The girls are all paranoid about being pulled by policia.I saw no blow back about the murdered girl. The subject was never brought up. The bros were very think everywhere. It looks to me that afro Americans are carrying the place.
Hey fellow mongers! Haven't been to the DR or Sosua since March 2016, but feeling the onset of winter here and there are some good flight deals around at the moment, so why not? I was wondering though, has it changed a lot since then? I tried to read back many pages on the forum, but maybe there have been some big changes since then that I'm not aware of, either obvious to the eye or more hidden changes? I'm a bit worried by a lot of the negative posts here, especially the recent killing of a girl. Has the place honestly gone downhill, would I notice less women around than in 2016, are there less bars open where the chicks hang out at night, is it more dangerous? How is November as a month to go there, low season or picking up? When I was last there chicas charged 2000 - 2500 pesos for a short time visit (an hour +/-), has this gone up ?
There was a large bar almost opposite Classico's (sorry, forgot the name) which was alive and kicking from 2011 - 2015 with a great lineup of chica's, but in 2016 they were doing construction on it, has this re-opened? Anyone stayed at Club Residencial recently, is still a good place to stay? That's where I stayed the last couple of times I was there. Would appreciate your advice guys.
Mr Enternational
11-11-18, 18:57
One of the girls walked off with my after shave. That was mighty nice of you to send a gift to one of the pimps that you hate so much. Just in time for Christmas too. Look at the bright side. At least she will be smelling you when she is cuddled up next to him. Got to feel sorry for those poor thieving ass Sosua hoes.
As stated by others the streets were filled with girls but not the stunners of days gone by. There were girls everywhere. I did several Haitian girls my 1st day. I had awesome BBj from all the girls. One of the girls walked off with my after shave. I was lazy and did not put things away. The Santiago stunners are not coming as much. I think the police actions are a big factor. The girls are all paranoid about being pulled by policia.I saw no blow back about the murdered girl. The subject was never brought up. The bros were very think everywhere. It looks to me that afro Americans are carrying the place.Glad you had a good time, and its not even the high season yet!
The hotels here are running out of reservations, so book early and don't count on just showing up and taking your pick, like the old days!
We sympathize with your loss of a toiletry!
Next time give them perfume, hair extensions and a choice of dresses, like some "next level" mongers do! LOL.
Just got back from my trip of 10 days. First time in Sosua. Had a great time, exceeded my expectations. I saw 10 different women, some with whom I sessioned multiple times. I negotiated 2,000 pesos with all girls except 2. One I agreed to 2,500 and one I thought we had an understanding at 2,000 but when she made a stink about it being 3,000 I just agreed. Out of my 17 sessions, only 3 were mildly disappointing. Mostly the girls all performed very nicely. I was able to make pretty good connections with all of them, which also helps. Really had a fun time. I would say of the 10 women, (2) were 8's, (2) were 6'es, and the other (6) were 7's. Works for me-- I'm not sure I would have gotten as good of service and price from 10's. I thought Sosua was a charming beach town. I stayed at Casa Valeria and recommend it very highly. The restaurant there is amazing. All of my breakfasts were included and so good. I ate dinner there 4 times. Great food! What is also nice about Casa Valeria is that it is right next door to New Garden, which was my second favorite restaurant. Great Italian food. I ate there 3 nights. I also tried the Jamaican place right down the street, and one other night I ate at another Italian restaurant called Ottimo's. They were also both good. I hung out at Sosua Beach instead of Alicia Beach. I've got to say, I thought it was a beautiful beach. One of the most beautiful I've ever been to. Every day I would get a beach chair with my guy Vasillio at Emilio's restaurant not too far from the Sosua side entrance. Would eat lobster or fried fish or shrimp for lunch. There is a little bit of a premium on food at the beach. Costs more than in town. But I came in under budget for the week, so I didn't mind paying for the expensive lunches. For anybody who's never been, Sosua is not just one big brothel and nothing else. I would say the mongering struck me as about 25% of what is going on in town. There were a lot of German tourists on the beach, and I noticed a lot of Italian expatriates in town. I found the town to be very safe. At least in the central area where I spent all my time. I even took a walk around some of the secondary streets at night. And while that made me slightly nervous, it was still safe. I was not walking in the barrio, just off the main street is all. On my first day at the beach, I asked if my stuff would be safe while I went swimming in the ocean. I was concerned about that, but my stuff was always safe when I left it at my beach chair for all 5 days I hit the beach. I never had a chica take anything from my room, which I was a little concerned about after reading some of the posts on this board. But I never had any problems. One thing I was disappointed about was golf. I was hoping to play golf at Playa Dorado about every other day. I only went there once. The course was nice, but the greens were horrible. So much so that I decided not not go back. That's OK, I just spent more days at the beach. I had good luck with the weather for the 10 days I was there. Really only 1 complete rain out day. If you can believe it, I never hit the world famous Classico's! I went to City Lights a few times, and hung out at Bourbon Street a couple of times, and also King's. Just goes to show that you can only pack in so much during the course of the vacation. I had full days every day, and just couldn't stay out late every night as well. Thanks to everyone who posted helpful posts on this board that I read leading up to my trip. It helped me have such a good trip.
Hey Sammon and Oldkool, thanks a lot for your advice! It feels a bit strange even writing about this, but since you both mentioned the issue anyway, is the town more dominated by the brothers than it was in 2016 ? I definitely noticed less white guys around than in 2011 over the years up to 2016. I wonder why? My only issue with their dominance of Sosua, is I reckon it's affected the type of chica who comes there, and their attitude. What I mean is that most women who come now like / prefer black guys I suppose? The brothers also have a certain direct, business / show me your ass and tits way with the chicas, one minute they're sitting in a bar staring at their phone looking disinterested, the next some guy says 'want to fuck' and they're off. And the chicas definitely seemed harder in 2016 than when I first visited in 2011. Not saying that's down to the brothers though.
Apart from Sosua and Boca Chica, have any other mongering beach towns surfaced in the DR that I'm not aware of? Is Kviar Casino worth checking out, any hot Dominicans there available for a pay date? Has anyone on here been too Blackbeards, as I posted a few questions about it on that thread but got no feedback. Never been there, but might try it for a few days.
Thanks again guys!
What I mean is that most women who come now like / prefer black guys I suppose?They prefer white guys. Benjamin Franklin is their absolute favourite.
Mr Enternational
11-12-18, 22:52
They prefer white guys. Benjamin Franklin is their absolute favourite.Exactly. They do not care who is coming there, as long as they are bringing money. It ain't but one type of woman that goes to hoe in Sosua; the type that needs money. Would you care about who is coming into your business to spend money? The women are there to work, not date.
Exactly. They do not care who is coming there, as long as they are bringing money. It ain't but one type of woman that goes to hoe in Sosua; the type that needs money. Would you care about who is coming into your business to spend money? The women are there to work, not date.Sure they want money, but I think what you say is too simplistic. A working girl is more likely to chose a good looking / friendly guy over a fat old ugly guy if given the choice, when the money offered was the same. In the same way, they are more used to black American guys, and American guys in general than Europeans like me. Therefore they're more likely to stick to what they know when given the choice. And dominicans identify with the US music, food, scene, way of behaving etc much more than a European does, I know from experience that I have little in common with Dominican women and Dominicans in general! Maybe those more into European guys head somewhere else these days?
over a fat old ugly guy if given the choiceWait a damn minute, I'm a fat old ugly guy and the girls love me! But then again, maybe it is because of my pesonality?
Mr Enternational
11-13-18, 01:03
In the same way, they are more used to black American guys, and American guys in general than Europeans like me. Therefore they're more likely to stick to what they know when given the choice. And dominicans identify with the US music, food, scene, way of behaving etc much more than a European does, I know from experience that I have little in common with Dominican women and Dominicans in general!Well I am a Black American dude and I totally disagree. I don't think I have much in common with Dominicans at all. I would never only drive with my bright lights on. I would never cut people off while driving. I would never try to skip ahead in the cue. I would never beg, extort, or scam people for money. I would never turn my house speakers toward the outside and crank the volume up to disturb all my neighbors. I like my cooked food hot. I eat vegetables.
All I can tell you is that if you go then you are likely to have fun. Don't worry about what everyone else is doing or who they are doing it with. Just make your own fun and gain your own experiences. There is more than one way to skin a cat.
Sure they want money, but I think what you say is too simplistic. A working girl is more likely to chose a good looking / friendly guy over a fat old ugly guy if given the choice, when the money offered was the same. In the same way, they are more used to black American guys, and American guys in general than Europeans like me. Therefore they're more likely to stick to what they know when given the choice. And dominicans identify with the US music, food, scene, way of behaving etc much more than a European does, I know from experience that I have little in common with Dominican women and Dominicans in general! Maybe those more into European guys head somewhere else these days?If I girl don't like you, two things will probably happen 1. She is going to quote you an outrageous price and if you are dumb enough to pay it. She will go with you and the service will be horrible. Or 2. Disregard your advances.
Every one of them is different. And that is what makes it fun and interesting. Yes the girls have preferences and that is a good thing. The DR is so screwed up that these ladies have few options. On another matter I spent some time with one of my go to girls. When we are together she makes her self totally available to me. She lays in the bed naked all night ready for anything I bring at her. I thnk this is what I like about Dominican women. When they give themself to a man they do not hold back.
Sure they want money, but I think what you say is too simplistic. A working girl is more likely to chose a good looking / friendly guy over a fat old ugly guy if given the choice, when the money offered was the same. In the same way, they are more used to black American guys, and American guys in general than Europeans like me. Therefore they're more likely to stick to what they know when given the choice. And dominicans identify with the US music, food, scene, way of behaving etc much more than a European does, I know from experience that I have little in common with Dominican women and Dominicans in general! Maybe those more into European guys head somewhere else these days?
DR Monger II
11-13-18, 02:14
Does anyone know what happened to Peter who ran Passions? Last, I heard they put him in prison in the DR? Is he doing well? I hope so, because he was a good guy.
Mr Enternational
11-13-18, 02:26
A working girl is more likely to chose a good looking / friendly guy over a fat old ugly guy if Maybe the working girl is fat, old, and ugly herself. Then it could be a sure matchup. Never know.
I might be flamed for this question and let me preface this with the fact that I'm heading out to cabarete and sosua for a two week monger / relaxation trip and it's my first time as an adult in DR and single. Have seen the scene out in Boca chica and Punta Cana but always had a lady with me (bahhhh). Anyways, I would love to know if there are any high end escorts in the area? I'm used to Venezuelan, Colombian, Dominican, and Panamanian women with work done (arguably at a much higher price) but I'd love to try one or two in between regular sessions with the local gals. Any advice is welcome. Thanks gents.
Does anyone know what happened to Peter who ran Passions? Last, I heard they put him in prison in the DR? Is he doing well? I hope so, because he was a good guy.He was deported to Germany in 2014.
I might be flamed for this question and let me preface this with the fact that I'm heading out to cabarete and sosua for a two week monger / relaxation trip and it's my first time as an adult in DR and single. Have seen the scene out in Boca chica and Punta Cana but always had a lady with me (bahhhh). Anyways, I would love to know if there are any high end escorts in the area? I'm used to Venezuelan, Colombian, Dominican, and Panamanian women with work done (arguably at a much higher price) but I'd love to try one or two in between regular sessions with the local gals. Any advice is welcome. Thanks gents.There were high end adult resorts who supply a choice of companions. Just do a search. It is all inclusive and there couple of ISGers who wrote a report on those.
Dominican Republic is not widely known for model type girls. I generally do not go for 9-10 because they have an attitude to match. This trip in Sosua I did not see any model types. There were some over the hill girls who might have been very pretty long time ago. Few years ago I used to find fairly good looking whitish girls but did not see any this trip. Also I did not see any teenagers. Most were in mid twenties to forties.
Cabarete is not known for mongering besides there are young dude surfers who get to pick. You might find occasional gems.
I might be flamed for this question and let me preface this with the fact that I'm heading out to cabarete and sosua for a two week monger / relaxation trip and it's my first time as an adult in DR and single. Have seen the scene out in Boca chica and Punta Cana but always had a lady with me (bahhhh). Anyways, I would love to know if there are any high end escorts in the area? I'm used to Venezuelan, Colombian, Dominican, and Panamanian women with work done (arguably at a much higher price) but I'd love to try one or two in between regular sessions with the local gals. Any advice is welcome. Thanks gents.If you've seen Boca, you can get a good idea what to expect in Sosua, but more of it. In addition it has good beaches and restaurants all within a 10 minute walk, so no transportation is needed.
As the other poster mentioned, there are a couple of adults only resorts a cab ride away, where everything is provided.
Cabarete is a laid back beach, known more for it's beachfront restaurants and bars, than P4P action, but in the DR, you can find them just about anywhere.
Sosua always has lots of women available, but the higher end ones come in for the high season tourist pickings, December through March, particularly at the weekends.
Regular visitors and residents, who prefer top shelf stuff, make connections over time. And have no problem bringing them in from the surrounding towns. If you like Dominicana and Haitiana ladies, there really are some stunners, but for the once a year tourist, you have to choose from what's available on any given day, or week, or season, or weather.
Of course working girls want your money (doh!) But on the demographic bell curve you have two extremes, fresher amateurs with few skills, just their spinner looks and bodies, to the hard core regulars. And everything in between. Like we mongers, they too have their preferences, so each encounter can be quite different for each combination of monger/puta.
A chica you take for a quickie in a cheap room at the back of a downtown bar, where she is reluctant to mess up her hair and make-up, is not going to show you what she might show a regular with a nearby condo and a pool. They like to relax, too. LOL.
It explains the widely varied reports of disappointment of some mongers, and the blown away awesome experience of others.
Well worth a week of fun finding out, but most mongers can find something they enjoy that keeps them coming back!
Good luck!
Manizales911
11-13-18, 15:42
Does anyone know what happened to Peter who ran Passions? Last, I heard they put him in prison in the DR? Is he doing well? I hope so, because he was a good guy.You can find him at Blue Ice Piano Bar some nights, technically his ex wife owns the place but he is involved off the books.
Manizales911
11-13-18, 15:45
He was deported to Germany in 2014.I don't know about that, I have sat and drank with him in Sosua as recently as three months ago.
Well I am a Black American dude and I totally disagree. I don't think I have much in common with Dominicans at all. I would never only drive with my bright lights on. I would never cut people off while driving. I would never try to skip ahead in the cue. I would never beg, extort, or scam people for money. I would never turn my house speakers toward the outside and crank the volume up to disturb all my neighbors. I like my cooked food hot. I eat vegetables.That's not what my mean, more the other way around, that Dominicans look up to the USA, and its the place they all want to go before Europe for example. Trying to chat to a Dominincan chica about Europe is pretty much a waste of time. Where are the countries, what languages they speak etc ? Their references are largely North American, it's the promised land for them. When I tell them it costs me me 30 Euro to go to the doctor and I get back 20 of that from the health insurance, or that in the UK its FREE to go to a doctor, they think you're just telling stories! Yes, after sex I like to talk about the real world sometime. Plus they think all that matters in life is money. Of course I understand why they think like that, with their levels of poverty and inequality. But as their biggest neighbor's visitors (the USA) also come from a much tougher, more money oriented society than an average North European, they probably think the whole world is like that! Yes, I know I'm generalising, and I don't mean to offend anyone, but I notice from American visitors I meet there, that often the first question they ask is what do you do for a living, that they even work on vacation, something that a French or German guy would be much less likely to be doing!
Mr Enternational
11-14-18, 01:56
That's not what my mean, more the other way around, that Dominicans look up to the USA, and its the place they all want to go before Europe for example. Trying to chat to a Dominincan chica about Europe is pretty much a waste of time.Well that has nothing to do with Black Americans. Dominicans think about going to other places where a cluster of Dominicans are, where they have friends and family. Those are the places they have heard of. They think about going to Bronx, NY, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, Boston. (For some reason Caribbean Island people always flock to cold places.) They don't talk about going to Houston, LOS Angeles or Seattle.
Earlier today my exgirlfriend told me that she is going to New York and asked if I have friends or family there that she could stay with for 6 days. I told her I don't even understand why she would want to go there. She only responded with 3 smiley faces. In other words, she doesn't understand why she wants to go there either!
Whenever I travel and meet a local or a foreinger traveling in a different country and they ask where I am from, if I say Atlanta they have no idea. It is easier to tell them New York because everybody understands New York. So maybe being from Europe, if you say London or Paris then you will get better results.
Hotel. Alicia beach hotel re modeled rooms are good comparable to 3 star hotels. There is however some things need to be improved. Air con split should be larger. Cooling power is not sufficient for the big room especially in summer months. Need to give one or two more pillows in addition to two supplied. Bed is comfortable. Clean sheets. Bath towels good. Plenty of hot water. Bathroom is clean and toilet is nice and new. I stayed in superior king bed room. $65 per night for superior rooms $75 for bungalow, $55 for regular room. All come with free breakfast for one. Nice safe place to park car which I need because of I always rent a car. Do not like to park on the street. Location is excellent. Alicia beach is not crowded and you can take your honey there if you are so inclined. Breakfast is sufficient. Dinner menu is good and tasty. I had lobster there which was cheap.
Bars. Nothing much has changed. Gets crowded in the evening. Even though this is the slow season most bars are standing room only. Classico does allow single girls free. Only men are charged 200 pesos. Once again standing room only after midnight.
Girls. Plenty of girls and equal number of guys. Ration is probably even. So asking rate is not going to go down. St rates around 2000 and LT rates are from 3500 - 5000. Do not be surprised if the LT girl takes off after one shot. I heard one guy say he paid LT rate before hand and got gypped. So do not pre pay. Higher percentage are older. No teenagers or low 20 girls. Late 20 s and most are in their thirtees although everybody claims to be 25. Some with real big natural boobs. They wear revealing dresses showing off their boobs. Very few had boob jobs. I guess compared Columbians they cannot afford to get one. Some are heavily padded boobs and asses. Very rare to find natural beauties. I guess all beautiful girls have found better opportunities elsewhere to earn better money than trolling Sosua. Few years ago lots of beautiful girls used to come to Sosua to supplement their income. Maybe stories of police harassment has kept them away. This visit I saw police patrolling constantly but were not harassing anybody. Even the girls out on the street were not harassed. I heard there was some anger from the working girls initially from the murder which place but on my trip there was no animosity. Only two girls asked me why I was staying at Alicia hotel and if I was not afraid. I joked saying I did see ghosts in the night. And they were nice looking. Mostly they were on my bed LOL.
Usually I try to locate a girl who I can take on trip, beach, dinner etc but none tickled my fancy. The girl from Santo Domingo wanted but I said I am busy and will call. She left her number and WhatsApp I. The. She said she likes to surf. Must have learned from somebody.
Bars. Nothing much has changed. Gets crowded in the evening. Even though this is the slow season most bars are standing room only. Classico does allow single girls free. Only men are charged 200 pesos. Once again standing room only after midnight.Thank you for the "Boots on the ground" report!
That's not what my mean, more the other way around, that Dominicans look up to the USA, and its the place they all want to go before Europe for example. Trying to chat to a Dominincan chica about Europe is pretty much a waste of time. Where are the countries, what languages they speak etc ? Their references are largely North American, it's the promised land for them. When I tell them it costs me me 30 Euro to go to the doctor and I get back 20 of that from the health insurance, or that in the UK its FREE to go to a doctor, they think you're just telling stories! Yes, after sex I like to talk about the real world sometime. Plus they think all that matters in life is money. Of course I understand why they think like that, with their levels of poverty and inequality. It is not just that, but their level of ignorance of the world and poor level of education is hard to grasp at first due to the language gap, but if you become fluent in Spanish, you realize more what a low base they are operating off. There are Dominican and Haitian chicas who have left and gone to Britain, Netherlands, Germany, Canada, Spain, and Italy that I know of personally, but that is because they have met men from those places. In general they are extremely incurious and preoccupied with their own families and day to day concerns. Not every single one, but most. Although they may talk about the US, if questioned they will probably not know even the most basic geography such as that Florida is in the South and New York in the North up near Canada, and California thousands of miles away on the West coast. They just don't know. It is mind-boggling. Most of them could probably not even tell you if Haiti was to the east or west of the DR.
Many years ago when I first went to work in Bermuda, I got to know a young local guy at my work who had been to the US in connection with military service. It was the first time he had been off the island where he was born and I asked him what his thoughts were about the US. His thoughts were mostly about being able to buy electronic items much cheaper than in Bermuda, not about vehicles being able to move faster than 20 mph, or about seeing 6-lane highways, or about not seeing the ocean for a whole day for the first time in his life. That is how many island people are.
Higher percentage are older. No teenagers or low 20 girls. Late 20 s and most are in their thirtees although everybody claims to be 25. Some with real big natural boobs. They wear revealing dresses showing off their boobs. Very few had boob jobs.I doubt whether the recent murder in Sosua has been helpful in attracting young apprentices to the world's oldest profession.
There were hundreds of girls on the ground but few were 7 or higher. I must admitt I did not got upstairs to Classicos. There are a lot more young guys on the ground (guys in their 30's) Young guys have a different approach to the hobby. I stayed at Sosua sutes across the street from Rockies. It may be the closest place to the action. It could use some updated but overall it is a gem. I enjoyed the eating establishments greatly. Sinatras breakfast is a huge treat for 250 pesos, American breakfast comes with a delicious fresh fruit salad eggs meat of choice. The coffee was the best I had anywhere. The best sex that I have had on the trip was a slim Haitian girl and a thick Dominican chica. The haiitian girl screamed her lungs out during sex awesome. The Fat Dominican girl had a cute face and worked very hard to please. Over all a good time. I had 1 3 some that started out very slow. Two haitian girls who acted shy at first. However after about 20 minutes we had hardcore porn going on. Because I was on a very short vacation I was less cautios then normal. It was after the 3 some that some items came up mising. I have cast my lot in Sosua because it meets my needs very well. I could visit Colombia or Rio but I would have to learn the ropes and make adjustments. Sosua is so close and easy to manage it is hard to leave.
Thank you for the "Boots on the ground" report!
There were hundreds of girls on the ground but few were 7 or higher. I must admitt I did not got upstairs to Classicos. There are a lot more young guys on the ground (guys in their 30's) Young guys have a different approach to the hobby. I stayed at Sosua sutes across the street from Rockies. It may be the closest place to the action. It could use some updated but overall it is a gem. I enjoyed the eating establishments greatly. Sinatras breakfast is a huge treat for 250 pesos, American breakfast comes with a delicious fresh fruit salad eggs meat of choice. The coffee was the best I had anywhere. The best sex that I have had on the trip was a slim Haitian girl and a thick Dominican chica. The haiitian girl screamed her lungs out during sex awesome. The Fat Dominican girl had a cute face and worked very hard to please. Over all a good time. I had 1 3 some that started out very slow. Two haitian girls who acted shy at first. However after about 20 minutes we had hardcore porn going on. Because I was on a very short vacation I was less cautios then normal. It was after the 3 some that some items came up mising. I have cast my lot in Sosua because it meets my needs very well. I could visit Colombia or Rio but I would have to learn the ropes and make adjustments. Sosua is so close and easy to manage it is hard to leave.Thanks for the feedback!
It is not just that, but their level of ignorance of the world and poor level of education is hard to grasp at first due to the language gap, but if you become fluent in Spanish, you realize more what a low base they are operating off. .... That is how many island people are.True enough Frannie, but that has been a boon to the local monger industry.
It will gradually change. The DR kids today are growing up with Western values, smart phones, computers and a surge in education.
Look at the School Day marches and see all those bright young beautiful kids in their school uniforms, and you can see they will be far more knowledgeable than their semi literate parents, and their illiterate grandparents. It may take a while, but it is inevitable in today's world.
They may not be willing to sell themselves so cheaply in the future, and the cry here, on these boards, may be the usual longing for the "good old days" of Sosua! .
ForceSteeler
11-15-18, 13:40
I guess all beautiful girls have found better opportunities elsewhere to earn better money than trolling Sosua. Few years ago lots of beautiful girls used to come to Sosua to supplement their income. Maybe stories of police harassment has kept them away. This visit I saw police patrolling constantly but were not harassing anybody. Even the girls out on the street were not harassed. I heard there was some anger from the working girls initially from the murder which place but on my trip there was no animosity. Back when I was going to Sosua from 2009-2012 (Golden Era). You would find a few dimes and a lot of young pretty girls. A lot of them would come from all over Santo Domingo and Santiago looking to make some extra money. Fast Foward to 2015-2018 Sosua has gotten too well known on the island and also with the police crackdowns that kinda of scared a lot of girls away. Remember most of these girls that come to Sosua, would come to Sousa behind there families back, so the last thing you want is to be locked up for pandering / prostitution and your friends and family has to get you bail money. Most of these girls don't want there families finding out. Why do you think the infamous Pica Flor was so popular with a lot of good looking girls? It provide a safe and discreet place for the girls, They don't have to worry about walking up and down the street looking for clients and or friends and family finding out. Plus they make good money as Pica Flor was charging $100 to $150, Which is from (5,000-7000) pesos. Most guys on the strip are only willing to pay 2000-3000 Pesos tops, You might find a few that are willing to pay 5,000-7,000, but its very rare. When you factor in inflation too most girls going to Sosua is not worth it anymore, When I was going to Sousa the Pesos was 3800 pesos for every $100. Now the Peso is almost at 5,000 for every $100, So right now in theory your getting less than before, because back then in 2009 we were paying 1500 to 2000 pesos.
Back when I was going to Sosua from 2009-2012 (Golden Era). You would find a few dimes and a lot of young pretty girls. A lot of them would come from all over Santo Domingo and Santiago looking to make some extra money. Fast Foward to 2015-2018 Sosua has gotten too well known on the island and also with the police crackdowns that kinda of scared a lot of girls away. Remember most of these girls that come to Sosua, would come to Sousa behind there families back, so the last thing you want is to be locked up for pandering / prostitution and your friends and family has to get you bail money.
Most of these girls don't want there families finding out. Why do you think the infamous Pica Flor was so popular with a lot of good looking girls? It provide a safe and discreet place for the girls, They don't have to worry about walking up and down the street looking for clients and or friends and family finding out. FS, I'm not exactly sure the dynamics of the police crackdowns that you are referring to? Maybe you have knowledge I'm not seeing / aware of? But as it stands now, the chicas if picked up by the Politur police, only are held until morning. If they have the pesos required (it may be 500 to 1500 pesos I think) they can be released and back on the street without spending the night in jail. There is no arrest record, no court date. No media exposure. A chica can get locked up for the night without her family or friends ever knowing about it. So I do not think chicas families finding out they were locked up just for the night is a major concern. The chica network prepares chicas to know what happens if they get arrested. Besides, many of theses chicas lie so well and often, they will spin whatever tale it takes if their family finding out was so important.
With that being said, I think the chica network has shared enough information among themselves on police operations. The Politur seems to focus their attention more on catching Haitiana chicas 1st, then new chicas in general to the scene, and chicas just dumb enough to get caught. If you look very closely, the Politur don't really mess with classy looking chicas (dresses / slacks with heels) if they happen to be walking alone like they are going someplace. Classy chicas usually will spend money on a motoconcho to get to a safe place to post up. They will also pay to drink or eat. I said in a previous post, that as long as a chica has a male escort, client walking with her, she is left alone.
Chicas realize this. So a Police crackdown is only an issue if you get caught. Not if you have clients/escorts. That is why so many chicas are still coming to Sosua. And I'm sure some that were scared away at 1st, eventually came back, realizing their fears were keeping them away from making some easy money. What scares chicas away, is the fierce competition they are up against to secure clients. And its too bad, many of these chicas don't have much business or common sense when it comes to securing and keeping a client. They rely on their looks and our attraction to get by.
But lets factor in a few other things. The advancement of technology, gave chicas more options in order to provide income for their financial situation. All the social media venues, as well as using ones phone as a computer allows chicas to work from their phone without having to come to Sosua. And surely, enough chicas use both social media and still come to Sosua.
Another consideration. Many of the chicas back then are older now. If they looked halfway decent they were snatched up by thirsty men willing to give them some incentive to stop going to Sosua. I know for a fact many chicas have dudes fly in to an airport close to that chicas town, and then the chicas go to stay with that guy for the duration of his vacation. And enough chicas have several men that they spend time with just like that. Back then even a few years ago, the generations of women were different. Chicas seem like were sweeter than they are today. More domesticated. Especially towards foreigners.
Today, Generation X and Millennials have taken over the scene. The attitudes are different. Many are low class minded and acting chicas. It's not that very attractive chicas stopped coming to Sosua. Whats happened is, you see more chicas wearing trendy attire moreso than dressy classy attire. And how these chicas carry themselves affects their appearance out in public. Many of these chicas today don't match the cooking and cleaning chicas many guys remembered years past. Now you got more immature females walking around with grown up bodies.
Plus they make good money as Pica Flor was charging $100 to $150, Which is from (5,000-7000) pesos. Most guys on the strip are only willing to pay 2000-3000 Pesos tops, You might find a few that are willing to pay 5,000-7,000, but its very rare. When you factor in inflation too most girls going to Sosua is not worth it anymore, When I was going to Sousa the Pesos was 3800 pesos for every $100. Now the Peso is almost at 5,000 for every $100, So right now in theory your getting less than before, because back then in 2009 we were paying 1500 to 2000 pesos.I think you were right about Pica Flor being a safe haven for enough chicas. It helped chicas who didn't want to walk up and down the street. However, even though PF was charging $100 to $150 to take out a chica, I don't think the chicas themselves were earning $100 to $150 of that money per client. And guess what happened after PF closed? Enough of them chicas were seen in Sosua working. Same as Black Beards and formerly Field of Dreams. Chicas left those venues and were found working in Sosua. And they still have social media to fall back on.
Another consideration. Enough chicas are able to leave the DR and ply their trade in another country. Sometimes it's done on the long term or short term. Another consideration. Back in 2009 when you were coming, many chicas came to Sosua to stay a day or two, maybe a week and they went back to be with their families / men etc for months. Fast forward to the last few years and many chicas come to Sosua and the surrounding communities to live for weeks and months at a time, and eventually they go back to their home town to visit their families. So you see, how chicas spent their time in Sosua changed dramatically over the last few years. Many live in and around Sosua instead of just visiting. Of course we always see chicas who can't stay in Sosua for long periods of time like the others. For every chica that has left the Sosua scene, another 18 yr old has come along to replace them.
About the money exchange rate. Yes the exchange rate for foreigners has improved dramatically over the years. And enough chicas knowing that have been trying to get paid at a better rate because of that. But the problem with that IMO, is that too many chicas are demanding to get paid more in pesos without giving satisfactory service which would make the increase a non issue for most men. What chicas have to pay to make life work is not a clients concern. And the one with the cash determines how and with whom it is spent. It's a competitive market. Both chicas and clients can hold out to get the price they are looking for, or decide to come to an agreement. The problem for men, is that we can't negotiate for what type of performance were paying for. Thats mostly up to the provider. The problem for chicas is that they are like crosstown buses. You miss one, another one is right behind it. As fine as many are, another fine chica will undercut another fine chica just to get work. Just like we see going on with taxi drivers. In the DR, the loyalty among people in the same boat is slim when money and ones livelihood is involved.
IMO the chicas claiming it's not worth coming to Sosua, one reason maybe because they realize they lack real control in the market. Many chicas have the big head. Thinking because of their looks, all they have to do is show up, and the money flows into their purses. If Sosua is supposedly not worth it anymore for many of these uneducated, often unskilled chicas, then what else do they have going on that's sustaining them then? Working laying flat still pays more than working in many regular jobs. So what else are these chicas doing if it aint worth coming to Sosua? I think enough chicas are coming into the realization that they dont really have the power in the market, just a common product that many other chicas have. Thats why lying, deception and using a mans ignorance are the tools of the trade for enough women in the p4p game. Its just not in enough of them to just give the type of service to give a man the incentive to repeat.
Mr Enternational
11-15-18, 23:02
Remember most of these girls that come to Sosua, would come to Sousa behind there families back, so the last thing you want is to be locked up for pandering / prostitution and your friends and family has to get you bail money. Most of these girls don't want there families finding out.If that was actually the case, where or how did their friends and family suppose they came up with all that money? Because if there was a money fairy somewhere, don't you think they would send her cousin, brother, and everyone else with pockets the next time?
Make that make sense. It is amazing how Sindy and Wanda always come up with the much needed money, but Roberto and Mikal never even come close. If they are from out of town and their family and friends see them in Sousa walking up and down the street, then more than likely their family and friends are walking up and down the street for the same reason.
Just wanted to say as I have to cut the heat on at my house in Atlanta and have friends and family breaking out the snow shovel in the Northeast, I really miss the beach, the strip, the presidente lights, Cuba libre and last but not least The Chicas and good folks of the DR.
I'm back in January to Santo Dom may try and swing by the Sos.
If that was actually the case, where or how did their friends and family suppose they came up with all that money? Because if there was a money fairy somewhere, don't you think they would send her cousin, brother, and everyone else with pockets the next time?
Make that make sense. It is amazing how Sindy and Wanda always come up with the much needed money, but Roberto and Mikal never even come close. If they are from out of town and their family and friends see them in Sousa walking up and down the street, then more than likely their family and friends are walking up and down the street for the same reason.There are cases of both. Some families are aware of what the girl does, but they accept it as part of the reality they live in. In other cases, a girl can disappear for a while, then come back with a story of some type of part time job at a hotel, casino, etc, etc. I have heard there is a pre-Christmas surge of chicas, due to the need of coming up with money for the holidays.
I can recall conversations with one former BB chica, who wanted to find some other source of income before her children were old enough to know what he did to earn a living.
True enough Frannie, but that has been a boon to the local monger industry.
It will gradually change. The DR kids today are growing up with Western values, smart phones, computers and a surge in education.
Look at the School Day marches and see all those bright young beautiful kids in their school uniforms, and you can see they will be far more knowledgeable than their semi literate parents, and their illiterate grandparents. It may take a while, but it is inevitable in today's world.
They may not be willing to sell themselves so cheaply in the future, and the cry here, on these boards, may be the usual longing for the "good old days" of Sosua! .It sounds hypocritical, but I hope you are right. Poverty is a powerful inducement for girls to go into prostitution, and poor education, poor job prospects, government corruption, etc, seal the deal.
It is equally hypocritical for local politicians to crusade against the sex industry, while providing no alternatives for their people to have a decent life.
Charles Pooter
11-16-18, 21:55
There are cases of both. Some families are aware of what the girl does, but they accept it as part of the reality they live in. In other cases, a girl can disappear for a while, then come back with a story of some type of part time job at a hotel, casino, etc, etc.A lot fall into one of those two categories, but I suspect even more have families who "don't want to know", that is, turn a blind eye to it. That is a typical Dominican attitude in every walk of life, to turn a blind eye to what is incorrect or deficient so that they can then claim "No fue mi culpa!"
BigTimeFun
11-17-18, 02:09
I have asked this before. I know it is only a matter of time but would like to know if The Topical Gel for ED is available for sale in the DR now.
And dominicans identify with the US music, food, scene, way of behaving etc much more than a European does, I know from experience that I have little in common with Dominican women and Dominicans in general! Maybe those more into European guys head somewhere else these days?No they don't. They identify with latino music; reggaeton, bachata, merengue, salsa etc. They eat sancocho, tostones, mangu and Dominican salami. They behave like Mr. E. Described in his post 30360, meaning they have much less in common with Americans than Europeans and Americans have with each others. American or European, we are all gringos to them.
No they don't. They identify with latino music; reggaeton, bachata, merengue, salsa etc. They eat sancocho, tostones, mangu and Dominican salami. They behave like Mr. E. Described in his post 30360, meaning they have much less in common with Americans than Europeans and Americans have with each others. American or European, we are all gringos to them.Pick holes in what I wrote if you like, 90 % of the gringo's they meet are Americans! The younger Domincan's are much more aware / into American music than they used to be, they played more of it in Classico's in 2016 than in 2011 for example ! We have more in common than they do with Americans, errrr, not sure about that! I don't have much in common with a guy walking around classico's in sportswear, with a white towel on his head (cause he's hot?) swigging from a bottle of bourbon!
You guys over complicate things. I keep telling you the hot chicks are in the hot clubs in the major cities. You guys are older and do not get out. So, you do not know, but you go to the hot clubs you will see all the hot chicks you can imagine. The Dominican music scene is blowing up just like ATL and Miami took over the music game. You go to the hot clubs in DR everyone got a bottle and dudes have no problem spending money on chicks. You do not see it because you not out at the hot spots. Hot chicks do not need sosua no more they can just go to the hot clubs and a dude will drop dollars. Very simple. Not complicated where the hot chicks have gone. When is the last time anyone went to a hot club in the DR. If the answer is no you do not know where the hot chicks are.
Things change. The music game always changes things. Some of you hate hip hop, reggaeton and trap dembow. Guess what the young chicks love that sound so they are going to spots that play that music. There are plenty of dudes in the hot cities that have no problem paying to play for a hot young chick. Before a hot chick did not mind being with a dude who is cheap and no game, but social media poor girls can learn the whole game sitting at home and where she wants to go shine and get paid. Sorry, that ship has sailed. I went to quorum nightclub in SD last weekend and bar packed with dimes waiting to get put down. Stop with I am a monger - well to pull the dimes in DR consistently better be a monger with game.
Mr Enternational
11-17-18, 23:50
Pick holes in what I wrote if you like, 90 % of the gringo's they meet are Americans! The younger Domincan's are much more aware / into American music than they used to be, they played more of it in Classico's in 2016 than in 2011Come on man. You can not base anything for an entire population off of a hooker pickup spot in a one-horse town that is geared toward foreign mongers. Hit some local non-hooker regular people spots in Santo Domingo and Santiago, then get back with me. Even in my city in the USA (which is one of the Blackest ones in the country), Dominicans that come have their own shit. They are going to Dominican clubs and hangout spots.
Pick holes in what I wrote if you like, 90 % of the gringo's they meet are Americans! The younger Domincan's are much more aware / into American music than they used to be, they played more of it in Classico's in 2016 than in 2011 for example ! We have more in common than they do with Americans, errrr, not sure about that! I don't have much in common with a guy walking around classico's in sportswear, with a white towel on his head (cause he's hot?) swigging from a bottle of bourbon!On the list of 10 most popular songs on Los 40 Principales radio channel Dua Lipa's (English) Silk City is the only non-Latin song.
On the list of 10 most popular songs on Los 40 Principales radio channel Dua Lipa's (English) Silk City is the only non-Latin song.Oh that doesn't count, she's Albanian origin !
We have great hot clubs in every city in the US. Expensive drinks and women are plentiful. The price you pay for that life is not cheap. Why go to the DR for the same thing. Like you said most of us are older. When I was under 40 I never dreamed of buying pussy. In the US there is a premium on youth. 40 plus guys stickout in clubs.
Everything is not for everybody. I am 60 plus now and have different needs I have done great dance clubs. Sitting in a hot disco does not give me a rise. Sucking on hokahs drinking expensive beverages not a good time for me.
I am not looking for 10's when I go out. I am not making it rain to impress any one. Sitting in a club looking at women you have no access to is a waste of my time. If this is what turns you on go for it. Many of us are very pleased with our 2000 pesos chicas.
You guys over complicate things. I keep telling you the hot chicks are in the hot clubs in the major cities. You guys are older and do not get out. So, you do not know, but you go to the hot clubs you will see all the hot chicks you can imagine. The Dominican music scene is blowing up just like ATL and Miami took over the music game. You go to the hot clubs in DR everyone got a bottle and dudes have no problem spending money on chicks. You do not see it because you not out at the hot spots. Hot chicks do not need sosua no more they can just go to the hot clubs and a dude will drop dollars. Very simple. Not complicated where the hot chicks have gone. When is the last time anyone went to a hot club in the DR. If the answer is no you do not know where the hot chicks are.
Things change. The music game always changes things. Some of you hate hip hop, reggaeton and trap dembow. Guess what the young chicks love that sound so they are going to spots that play that music. There are plenty of dudes in the hot cities that have no problem paying to play for a hot young chick. Before a hot chick did not mind being with a dude who is cheap and no game, but social media poor girls can learn the whole game sitting at home and where she wants to go shine and get paid. Sorry, that ship has sailed. I went to quorum nightclub in SD last weekend and bar packed with dimes waiting to get put down. Stop with I am a monger - well to pull the dimes in DR consistently better be a monger with game.
We have great hot clubs in every city in the US. Expensive drinks and women are plentiful. The price you pay for that life is not cheap. Why go to the DR for the same thing. Like you said most of us are older. When I was under 40 I never dreamed of buying pussy. In the US there is a premium on youth. 40 plus guys stickout in clubs.
Everything is not for everybody. I am 60 plus now and have different needs I have done great dance clubs. Sitting in a hot disco does not give me a rise. Sucking on hokahs drinking expensive beverages not a good time for me.
I am not looking for 10's when I go out. I am not making it rain to impress any one. Sitting in a club looking at women you have no access to is a waste of my time. If this is what turns you on go for it. Many of us are very pleased with our 2000 pesos chicas.Oldkool I hear you. I am just answering the question. Nothing personal. Where are the hot chicks. They use to be in sosua as someone said. People have said now they are leaving the DR. All I said, they have not gone anywhere. They are in the cities at the hot clubs. There is a lot of money in the hot clubs. More Dominican baseball players in the league. A lot more Dominican artists doing well in the music game. Dominican Republic is drug distribution point. Construction continues in the cities. Put all those factors together there is a lot of money in the clubs in the cities. Hot chicks do not have to come to sosua for 2000 pesos. Again, the question was asked why less hot chicks in sosua. I am just giving you an answer. Nothing personal. Just providing facts. Needing a 10 is personal preference. Always do you and what makes you happy, but never take it personal when someone gives you an answer. I am just telling you what I have seen taking place. Have any of you gone to kaviar on a Sunday night in Puerto Plata. Use to be a lot working girls. Now mostly packed with locals and non pros. Things change.
Everyone likes to be with pretty young girls. Especially when you are paying for sex you want prettier girls. When you do not get what you want you settle for less. As general economy gets better and options for pretty girls are there it is hard find them walking the streets of Sosua.
You can hang around clubs here at home and hope you score but definitely not going to find young girls interested in your shriveled dick. So we are looking for our grand daughters in a cheap country partly for ego and partly to live the bygone era.
Everyone likes to be with pretty young girls. Especially when you are paying for sex you want prettier girls. When you do not get what you want you settle for less. As general economy gets better and options for pretty girls are there it is hard find them walking the streets of Sosua.
You can hang around clubs here at home and hope you score but definitely not going to find young girls interested in your shriveled dick. So we are looking for our grand daughters in a cheap country partly for ego and partly to live the bygone era.Hi Sam,
Ya, I don't even go to clubs in USA any more and stopped dating American girls altogether seven years ago (except for a bargain brown sugar P4P I see quite often) -- so much happier now. The hot, young, busty, amorous Dominicanas, Venezolas, Colombianas, Filipinas, Indos, Thais, etc. Provide so much more pleasure for a fraction of the cost in USA. The +1 movement further exacerbates any hope of getting laid by some age-appropriate hottie ever again in the USA Fortunately most American broads have no idea that their foreign sisters outclass them in every aspect. I've got a roster of Dominicanas, for example, that any red-blooded American male would drool over. I myself can't even believe it. I'm 63 and getting laid by more and better p*ssy than any other time in my life! And the best news is there is always a fresh batch of newly-minted 18+ hotties waiting to be properly serviced by us old dogs. Life is good!
A lot fall into one of those two categories, but I suspect even more have families who "don't want to know", that is, turn a blind eye to it. That is a typical Dominican attitude in every walk of life, to turn a blind eye to what is incorrect or deficient so that they can then claim "No fue mi culpa!"Agreed.
If "Maria" returns after a month or two, with money earned "working at a casino" its very possible that family members won't push for details.
Got to maintain the family "respectability. ".
I have known a woman who once worked as a chica at BB, but would not discuss men, and certain other topics with her sisters, as that would be "inappropriate. ".
Some Dominicans have to maintain a measure of "respectability" in public, even if it requires some deception to do so.
You guys over complicate things. I keep telling you the hot chicks are in the hot clubs in the major cities. You guys are older and do not get out. So, you do not know, but you go to the hot clubs you will see all the hot chicks you can imagine. The Dominican music scene is blowing up just like ATL and Miami took over the music game. You go to the hot clubs in DR everyone got a bottle and dudes have no problem spending money on chicks. You do not see it because you not out at the hot spots. Hot chicks do not need sosua no more they can just go to the hot clubs and a dude will drop dollars. Very simple. Not complicated where the hot chicks have gone. When is the last time anyone went to a hot club in the DR. If the answer is no you do not know where the hot chicks are.
Things change. The music game always changes things. Some of you hate hip hop, reggaeton and trap dembow. Guess what the young chicks love that sound so they are going to spots that play that music. There are plenty of dudes in the hot cities that have no problem paying to play for a hot young chick. Before a hot chick did not mind being with a dude who is cheap and no game, but social media poor girls can learn the whole game sitting at home and where she wants to go shine and get paid. Sorry, that ship has sailed. I went to quorum nightclub in SD last weekend and bar packed with dimes waiting to get put down. Stop with I am a monger - well to pull the dimes in DR consistently better be a monger with game.There are hot chicks all around Sosua, just not on the stroll, or in the hoe bars.
I live here, have a hot bi GF who has a lot of top shelf hot friends in PP, Cab, and in the bartender business here. I just had a weekend partying with a few of them, and the biggest problem I had is getting GF back to her casa in PP for a few days (her bambina is in boarding scholl, curtesy of the kids father) so I can relax around the pool in my apartment and chill till the weekend.
I just turned off the phone because it never stops. These are "hot" chicks, and are also friends with benefits. I just can't get this talent at home. Ask Mr Gogo if I am lying, cause I sent him pics!
Here it is accepted. This pool has hot chicks with older men, and I know for a fact they are not spending big bucks on them!
No necesito to hang out in a club, at 2 am, in a god awful sweat, listening to loud people and loud noise at my age. When I got it all here!
I agree with OldKool, where I come from you don't hang out in "hot clubs" and then PAY for pussy. Pussy is free for the taking in "hot clubs". Lol
Just a lifestyle choice. Differenet strokes, and all that!
The Tall Man
11-18-18, 18:21
We have great hot clubs in every city in the US. Expensive drinks and women are plentiful. The price you pay for that life is not cheap. Why go to the DR for the same thing. Like you said most of us are older. When I was under 40 I never dreamed of buying pussy. In the US there is a premium on youth. 40 plus guys stickout in clubs.
Everything is not for everybody. I am 60 plus now and have different needs I have done great dance clubs. Sitting in a hot disco does not give me a rise. Sucking on hokahs drinking expensive beverages not a good time for me.
I am not looking for 10's when I go out. I am not making it rain to impress any one. Sitting in a club looking at women you have no access to is a waste of my time. If this is what turns you on go for it. Many of us are very pleased with our 2000 pesos chicas.OldKool must be "my brother from another mother" as our life, age and how we transitioned from early to mid to 60's years of age completely resonates with me.
The Tall Man.
I think there are many reasons for the drop in quality. However chief is the police crack d0 wn. The ego of the quality girls can not bear being chased by police. Never the less there are more then enough hot girls to keep you occupied. Going to a club feeled with hot non pros out partying is a waste of my expensive time. I am not looking for relationships or trophies. In truth high season has not kicked off so I not sure what the scene will be like this year. Like you said things do change. The current club scene is not easy to navigate for the girls.
Oldkool I hear you. I am just answering the question. Nothing personal. Where are the hot chicks. They use to be in sosua as someone said. People have said now they are leaving the DR. All I said, they have not gone anywhere. They are in the cities at the hot clubs. There is a lot of money in the hot clubs. More Dominican baseball players in the league. A lot more Dominican artists doing well in the music game. Dominican Republic is drug distribution point. Construction continues in the cities. Put all those factors together there is a lot of money in the clubs in the cities. Hot chicks do not have to come to sosua for 2000 pesos. Again, the question was asked why less hot chicks in sosua. I am just giving you an answer. Nothing personal. Just providing facts. Needing a 10 is personal preference. Always do you and what makes you happy, but never take it personal when someone gives you an answer. I am just telling you what I have seen taking place. Have any of you gone to kaviar on a Sunday night in Puerto Plata. Use to be a lot working girls. Now mostly packed with locals and non pros. Things change.
I think there are many reasons for the drop in quality. However chief is the police crack d0 wn. The ego of the quality girls can not bear being chased by police. Never the less there are more then enough hot girls to keep you occupied. Going to a club feeled with hot non pros out partying is a waste of my expensive time. I am not looking for relationships or trophies. In truth high season has not kicked off so I not sure what the scene will be like this year. Like you said things do change. The current club scene is not easy to navigate for the girls.It's a quiet Sunday here. Everybody is in Rumba watching football! My buddies are having a difficult time with reservations so the high season is about to kick in. I got rid of my GF TIL next Thursday and am having a drink with two of the most beautiful women I have ever seen away, well away from the "scene". With cheap drinks and my music!
There are many Sosuas!
You choose!
ReadyToGetOnIt
11-19-18, 01:58
Adding to the recent pile of Trip Reports. Did 8 days. Most of the vets have done a good job summing it up, so I'll add a couple of nuggets.
The place across from Classico's (formerly the'Latin) is becoming a store owned by some Asian folks.
OldKool mentioned that he got stuck for some after shave. I don't know what in the entire f&*k the deal is with chicks stealing mens cologne. I won't say I got sloppy; everything else in the room was secured except for that, my toothbrush and my toothpaste. Didn't know they had a thing for a half used bottle.
There was indeed a shortage of talent at the higher end of the spectrum. Even over the weekend. Not a problem for me, I don't like prissy bitches in the bed. Just an observation.
The "my pussy is gold" attitude is quite prevalent. Most nights, I didn't partake for that reason. Give me a down to earth chica who is happy and appreciative for the work any day of the week.
1000 and 1500 peso toto IS STILL A THING. Don't be a punk. Just be ready to walk. Sometimes I ask their price in English just to let them say something dumb. Then I tell them NFW for that price (in Spanish), and walk off. Gets their attention. Other times, I just tell them "pago mil pesos (or mil quieniento pesos) dime" and walk off. Had a couple of chicas run a half a block to catch me.
50.05/$1 on the exchange is beautiful.
New Rumba is much more quiet than old Rumba.
Bourbon Street is still the center of the universe until Classico's opens.
The police aren't particularly aggressive with the chicas. They're just looking for Haitians and girls who don't look classy or get caught not paying attention. It's almost a stampede when the girls run down the street back and forth every time they drive or walk by.
I'm sure I forgot something. If I remember, I'll holler back.
Agreed.
If "Maria" returns after a month or two, with money earned "working at a casino" its very possible that family members won't push for details.
Got to maintain the family "respectability. ".
I have known a woman who once worked as a chica at BB, but would not discuss men, and certain other topics with her sisters, as that would be "inappropriate. ".
Some Dominicans have to maintain a measure of "respectability" in public, even if it requires some deception to do so.Having had two long time relationships with chicas (not from Sosua) and spent time with their cash poor, but self sufficient families in the barrio and up in the hillside towns I have a different take on the social attitudes of the locals, quite a bit different from the usual monger's analysis frequently presented here.
Dirt poor families want the best for their chidren all over the world, but down here the routine is a local girl gets snapped up by a local no job chico and left with a bambina or two and then he goes on to the next one, or disappears altogether. Esta la vida! Family finishes up taking care of daughter and her kids.
Now she's tainted goods, saddled with a kid or two, she's looking for a job to help suport her family. No jobs, but if she's presentable, her cousin in Charamicos, PP or SD can get her on the game, to make some real easy money to buy stuff and send home.
If she's not very bright, she'll end up walking the streets in Boca / Sosua, but if she's a little smarter, and personable, she may end up a regular GF for a foreigner who will give her money, nice hotels when he's there, and even send her WU, even if he's only down there a couple of times a year. She can live!
Her family, morals aside, see her either wasting her life in the barrio with a series of no job chicos, or a "rich" foreigner who treats her well, with dinero for bambina commida, esquela, cumpleanos, navided fiesta.
She brings him home to the family and they embrace him whole heartedly. They are all happy with the deal.
It's less to do with morality and more about the harsh reality of life.
For his part, the smart foreigner keeps control, establishes some understood rules, limits his expenditures to a sustainable budget with no future committments or promises, and can live happily ever after.
Mongers in a third world country contemplating, lecturing or obsessing about the "morality" of the locals is alway a big joke to me!
Very well said and right on!
Having had two long time relationships with chicas (not from Sosua) and spent time with their cash poor, but self sufficient families in the barrio and up in the hillside towns I have a different take on the social attitudes of the locals, quite a bit different from the usual monger's analysis frequently presented here.
Dirt poor families want the best for their children all over the world, but down here the routine is a local girl gets snapped up by a local no job chico and left with a bambina or two and then he goes on to the next one, or disappears altogether. Esta la vida! Family finishes up taking care of daughter and her kids.
Now she's tainted goods, saddled with a kid or two, she's looking for a job to help support her family. No jobs, but if she's presentable, her cousin in Charamicos, PP or SD can get her on the game, to make some real easy money to buy stuff and send home.
If she's not very bright, she'll end up walking the streets in Boca / Sosua, but if she's a little smarter, and personable, she may end up a regular GF for a foreigner who will give her money, nice hotels when he's there, and even send her WU, even if he's only down there a couple of times a year. She can live!
Having had two long time relationships with chicas (not from Sosua) and spent time with their cash poor, but self sufficient families in the barrio and up in the hillside towns I have a different take on the social attitudes of the locals, quite a bit different from the usual monger's analysis frequently presented here.
Dirt poor families want the best for their chidren all over the world, but down here the routine is a local girl gets snapped up by a local no job chico and left with a bambina or two and then he goes on to the next one, or disappears altogether. Esta la vida! Family finishes up taking care of daughter and her kids.
Now she's tainted goods, saddled with a kid or two, she's looking for a job to help suport her family. No jobs, but if she's presentable, her cousin in Charamicos, PP or SD can get her on the game, to make some real easy money to buy stuff and send home.
If she's not very bright, she'll end up walking the streets in Boca / Sosua, but if she's a little smarter, and personable, she may end up a regular GF for a foreigner who will give her money, nice hotels when he's there, and even send her WU, even if he's only down there a couple of times a year. She can live!Good post Sir, one thing about me and you Oakie is that we are willing to share our lifestyles while living on the island, good or bad. I'm in the process of giving up one of the best girls I have ever had over her not understanding the limitations of what I can do now.
She works and makes 2500 pesos a week. I'm no longer a free spending tourist and have been explaining this to her for the last year. She says she gets it and it's not about the money. She has become a new bill in retirement that I don't need. I help her regularly and don't mind but it's always about the family and somehow she feels they are my responsibility. She refuses to ask them for assistance but has no problem asking me to help them. Even though her and the boys buy me cheap gifts on my birthday and fathers day, its usually with the money I give her. Damn, I even asked her to give me one month without her asking me for shit and she can't do it. Even her offering to pay the bill when we hangout would be appreciated. She really tries but the outside pressure is to much for her to refuse because her heart is so good. Even in my previous DR relationships these same problems occurred but it was easy for me to move on because they weren't as special as this one. I'm not sure if she just doesn't get it or if the family pressure is just to much?
She is a good girl because she is a great mother, fucks me good, cleans and cooks and has pizazz. I have never sent her money western union the last two years we have been dating. She doesn't trip and let's me hang with the boys when they come to the DR, some of them from this board. They can verify that she is a keeper. Shit, she has even found a used condom in the trash and forgiven me that day.
Any women I date now will have to be self sufficient because I didn't retire to go broke over a piece of ass. Luckily you Oakie have one that understands your limitations but it's rare on the island, especially if you are a foreigner.
Yo! Came in Friday on the redeye after work! Having a good time! Plenty of talent. I agree that there aren't many times. But there are an abundance of attractive Chicas. Sonfar the sex has been great! 2500-3000 is what I've been paying. You can probably go cheaper, but I'm not really trying to break them down. Lots of my buddies in town as usual. Me an tomjackin having a blast as always! Good ole sosua! I'm just warming up! Peace!
Yo! Came in Friday on the redeye after work! Having a good time! Plenty of talent. I agree that there aren't many times. But there are an abundance of attractive Chicas. Sonfar the sex has been great! 2500-3000 is what I've been paying. You can probably go cheaper, but I'm not really trying to break them down. Lots of my buddies in town as usual. Me an tomjackin having a blast as always! Good ole sosua! I'm just warming up! Peace!Friday and Saturday nights were off the hook. Tons of options. Even last night there were many options.
Sosua is far from dead.
Good post Sir, one thing about me and you Oakie is that we are willing to share our lifestyles while living on the island, good or bad. I'm in the process of giving up one of the best girls I have ever had over her not understanding the limitations of what I can do now.
She works and makes 2500 pesos a week. I'm no longer a free spending tourist and have been explaining this to her for the last year. She says she gets it and it's not about the money. She has become a new bill in retirement that I don't need. I help her regularly and don't mind but it's always about the family and somehow she feels they are my responsibility. She refuses to ask them for assistance but has no problem asking me to help them. Even though her and the boys buy me cheap gifts on my birthday and fathers day, its usually with the money I give her. Damn, I even asked her to give me one month without her asking me for shit and she can't do it. Even her offering to pay the bill when we hangout would be appreciated. She really tries but the outside pressure is to much for her to refuse because her heart is so good. Even in my previous DR relationships these same problems occurred but it was easy for me to move on because they weren't as special as this one. I'm not sure if she just doesn't get it or if the family pressure is just to much?
She is a good girl because she is a great mother, fucks me good, cleans and cooks and has pizazz. I have never sent her money western union the last two years we have been dating. She doesn't trip and let's me hang with the boys when they come to the DR, some of them from this board. They can verify that she is a keeper. Shit, she has even found a used condom in the trash and forgiven me that day.
Any women I date now will have to be self sufficient because I didn't retire to go broke over a piece of ass. Luckily you Oakie have one that understands your limitations but it's rare on the island, especially if you are a foreigner.Listen to my mentor, folks. Especialy the older ones looking to get organized down here permanently!
The rest of you can ignore these posts, do your shit and good luck!
As Mr GoGo says, it's tough, there is compromise, but you can never lose control. I just spent a morning yesterday at my pool, explaining to my fuck, local street smart negotiator, cook and cleaner, family connection, and connection to other good fucks, why she should go home to PP until next Thursday. She didn't want to go. We came to an ultimatum.
I said she could be hefe (boss) on the weekends, but I must be hefe Monday through Thursday. She eventually got it and now we are OK! I got the money so I have the last say! I do cater to her ego, and tell her what I am doing during the week, working out, getting healthy and no partying without her. LOL!
But I just spent an afternoon with a beauty that I've known for a couple years and didn't expect to see, and I won't aggravate her with THAT story.
But generally I am monogomous with her, so much so that for the first time in 10 years I am bringing my son down to Sosua, to introduce him to some real people locals and let him know his Papa is not just mongering with putas.
After 8 years with one DR GF, I never thought I would ever find another that I could ever have anything in common with, but being prepared to draw the line and walk got me here. They respect that!
Thank you Mr GoGo for all your advice, and I hope I can return a little of the favor by telling you my shit here!
Oldkool I hear you. I am just answering the question. Nothing personal. Where are the hot chicks. They use to be in sosua as someone said. People have said now they are leaving the DR. All I said, they have not gone anywhere. They are in the cities at the hot clubs. There is a lot of money in the hot clubs. More Dominican baseball players in the league. A lot more Dominican artists doing well in the music game. Dominican Republic is drug distribution point. Construction continues in the cities. Put all those factors together there is a lot of money in the clubs in the cities. Hot chicks do not have to come to sosua for 2000 pesos. Again, the question was asked why less hot chicks in sosua. I am just giving you an answer. Nothing personal. Just providing facts. Needing a 10 is personal preference. Always do you and what makes you happy, but never take it personal when someone gives you an answer. I am just telling you what I have seen taking place. Have any of you gone to kaviar on a Sunday night in Puerto Plata. Use to be a lot working girls. Now mostly packed with locals and non pros. Things change.Revere it's interesting how your motivation to answer questions to posts not directed to you kicks in. But when I for example, ask you some specific questions regarding the things you said about hot chicks. I can't get a response, no feedback. And yet you seem to find time to answer questions to posts not directed to you? LOL Can you provide facts if someone actually asks you direct questions to things you said?
One last thing. It's really kind of ridiculous to be debating over the physical attraction and desirability in women as if there is only one standard to go by to determine what makes a female hot and another not. A few individuals with their own tastes don't make the rules for everybody else on what's physically attractive or desirable in a woman / provider.
So when guys claim there werent many good looking girls on his vacation, or guys are raving about hot chicks in the club, I take all of that with a grain of salt. I can't base what other men are attracted to or repulsed by and make that my only consideration or standard that applies to me in regards to women in Sosua or elsewhere just because he / they said so. A man's choice of sex provider may include a lot more important factors than simply going by where someone else claims the hot chicks are supposedly hanging out at.
Thats why I don't say alot about the appearance of chicks in Sosua, the Dr in general, Thailand or the Philippines. Beauty, desirability, service and the cost is the responsibility of the individual to determine for themselves. You don't leave that responsibility for what you like or don't like in the hands of individuals that do not represent you. And especially with those who do not care about or relate to your interests.
As promised I am writing a report from my experience in Sosua. As mentioned before, I travel with my girl, and we both play. First went to Blackbeards, didn't see too many girls maybe 10 at most, but saw one that checked most of our boxes, when we decided to pull the plug (I told them all night as we like to take our time etc) she comes back to tell me oh she has an appointment in 30 min, then another in an hour, then an hour after that but she will be free from 10 pm, huge turn off for me that she is that busy. So we pay for our drinks and head back to Sosua. Go to Classicos, look around, not many our type, spot one, talk to her and she agrees to 4000 pesos (that's a bit high I know but we are a couple). Get back to the room, and had a good time, didn't have to ask for BBBJ, got one off the bat, showered together etc. I only played once on this trip.
Now to compare it to my Colombia trip, I have noticed most girls on the strip in Sosua are pro pros. In Colombia you have many who do it here and there, and are not as jaded if that makes sense. To each their own, but I like Colombian women better, prettier faces, nicer skin, better bodies etc. Plus in Colombia its easy to get a girl for a day, or a few days, not pay that much and actually have a good time, but from the girls I talked to in DR they are all about money, and how fast they can get to the next one.
Now to throw in the third place, So far in my monger travels I would say the best I had so far has been Cuba, beautiful woman, true GFE from most. Non are jaded, and you can literally walk up to girls in the stores, or walking in the street and pick them up.
The convenience of DR is nicer beaches, way better than Colombia, and nicer than Cuba, shorter flight, and being able to rent a car. Food is decent, roads are okay, and I got very lucky with the weather.
Revere it's interesting how your motivation to answer questions to posts not directed to you kicks in. But when I for example, ask you some specific questions regarding the things you said about hot chicks. I can't get a response, no feedback. And yet you seem to find time to answer questions to posts not directed to you? LOL Can you provide facts if someone actually asks you direct questions to things you said?
One last thing. It's really kind of ridiculous to be debating over the physical attraction and desirability in women as if there is only one standard to go by to determine what makes a female hot and another not. A few individuals with their own tastes don't make the rules for everybody else on what's physically attractive or desirable in a woman / provider.
So when guys claim there werent many good looking girls on his vacation, or guys are raving about hot chicks in the club, I take all of that with a grain of salt. I can't base what other men are attracted to or repulsed by and make that my only consideration or standard that applies to me in regards to women in Sosua or elsewhere just because he / they said so. A man's choice of sex provider may include a lot more important factors than simply going by where someone else claims the hot chicks are supposedly hanging out at.
Thats why I don't say alot about the appearance of chicks in Sosua, the Dr in general, Thailand or the Philippines. Beauty, desirability, service and the cost is the responsibility of the individual to determine for themselves. You don't leave that responsibility for what you like or don't like in the hands of individuals that do not represent you. And especially with those who do not care about or relate to your interests.We can debate all we want. It comes back to there has been a huge drop off in pretty chicks coming to sosua. That is a fact. The question is why. I said I see a lot of those same chicks in the hot clubs within the DR and I gave my reasons for that. That's all I can say. You can give me all the analysis you want I am just telling you what I see. You also see people saying not just me not as many pretty girls in sosua now. That's it. I do not know about other places, but what I can tell you you go to the hot clubs in the DR you will see a lot of pretty chicks. That simple. Not complicated my analysis. I keep asking a simple question when is the last time you visited a hot club in the DR.
Mr Enternational
11-21-18, 17:09
First went to Blackbeards, didn't see too many girls maybe 10 at most, but saw one that checked most of our boxes, when we decided to pull the plug (I told them all night as we like to take our time etc) she comes back to tell me oh she has an appointment in 30 min, then another in an hour, then an hour after that but she will be free from 10 pm, huge turn off for me that she is that busy.Isn't that to be expected when you have 50 guys sharing the same 10 girls?
Isn't that to be expected when you have 50 guys sharing the same 10 girls?Honestly I didn't know what to expect, it was my first time there. I don't plan my trip just to monger, so I couldn't care less if it doesn't work out. I was just used to the Colombian girls I usually see, way less mileage than these girls.
Isn't that to be expected when you have 50 guys sharing the same 10 girls?Yes. Place reminds me of Colombia. Just wait your turn in till she's finished.
Manizales911
11-21-18, 20:24
We can debate all we want. It comes back to there has been a huge drop off in pretty chicks coming to sosua. That is a fact. The question is why. I said I see a lot of those same chicks in the hot clubs within the DR and I gave my reasons for that. That's all I can say. You can give me all the analysis you want I am just telling you what I see. You also see people saying not just me not as many pretty girls in sosua now. That's it. I do not know about other places, but what I can tell you you go to the hot clubs in the DR you will see a lot of pretty chicks. That simple. Not complicated my analysis. I keep asking a simple question when is the last time you visited a hot club in the DR.One of the reasons for less hot chicas in Sosua is the internet, Facebook and Whatsapp. The hot ones don't have to leave their house until they have a "date" and then they go directly to the monger's location. The girls on my go to list never step foot outside of the carrito terminal in Sosua, when they get in their carrito in Puerto Plata they text me and tell me they are on their way and I pick them up when they arrive and off we go. All of the guys I know living in Sosua do the same exact thing. The hot one's out of Puerto Plata wouldn't get caught dead walking the strip in Sosua. One time I was waiting in my car for a girl to arrive across the street from the taxi stand at the Texaco station, she arrives and I'm waving to her and she actually took a damn moto to cross the street, she was that intimidated by the Sosua experience, she is still on my "list", a real sweetheart. There are hundreds of dimes in Puerto Plata just waiting to hook up with gringos, it just takes work that many guys aren't willing to put in, their loss and more for me and my friends to have, LOL. Facebook in my opinion has single handedly changed mongering for the better in many places, DR and Colombia are two of those places.
One of the reasons for less hot chicas in Sosua is the internet, Facebook and Whatsapp. The hot ones don't have to leave their house until they have a "date" and then they go directly to the monger's location. The girls on my go to list never step foot outside of the carrito terminal in Sosua, when they get in their carrito in Puerto Plata they text me and tell me they are on their way and I pick them up when they arrive and off we go. All of the guys I know living in Sosua do the same exact thing. The hot one's out of Puerto Plata wouldn't get caught dead walking the strip in Sosua. One time I was waiting in my car for a girl to arrive across the street from the taxi stand at the Texaco station, she arrives and I'm waving to her and she actually took a damn moto to cross the street, she was that intimidated by the Sosua experience, she is still on my "list", a real sweetheart. There are hundreds of dimes in Puerto Plata just waiting to hook up with gringos, it just takes work that many guys aren't willing to put in, their loss and more for me and my friends to have, LOL. Facebook in my opinion has single handedly changed mongering for the better in many places, DR and Colombia are two of those places.That makes sense. For sure I haven't seen many 10's. There are a number of so called top tier Chicas I haven't seen this week. But nonetheless I'm having a ball! Talent is sufficient, I've only had one dud. Sosua is still a good spot!
We can debate all we want. It comes back to there has been a huge drop off in pretty chicks coming to sosua. That is a fact. The question is why. I said I see a lot of those same chicks in the hot clubs within the DR and I gave my reasons for that. That's all I can say. You can give me all the analysis you want I am just telling you what I see. You also see people saying not just me not as many pretty girls in sosua now. That's it. I do not know about other places, but what I can tell you you go to the hot clubs in the DR you will see a lot of pretty chicks. That simple. Not complicated my analysis. I keep asking a simple question when is the last time you visited a hot club in the DR.It's really not a debate. Its about listening to what people have been telling you. Enough people here including myself already acknowledged and confirmed that the internet and social media plays a huge role in giving chicas more options to get paid and survive, without going to Sosua. Manizales just explained, enough chicas are taking full advantage of social media / the internet rather than using Sosua And guess what, enough of these women are NOT necessarily going to clubs.
So I would have to question the logic of someone exclusively focused on a club as his main source for connecting with so called hot chicks, with men dropping $150 to $500 bucks a night just to be close to these club chicks, and totally ignore the connection that social media / the internet, western union, and men wifing chicks up is responsible for why enough chicks are not relying on Sosua. Once again what guys have been telling you, there is more than one way to get the job done. Without going to a club.
It's really not a debate. Its about listening to what people have been telling you. Enough people here including myself already acknowledged and confirmed that the internet and social media plays a huge role in giving chicas more options to get paid and survive, without going to Sosua. Manizales just explained, enough chicas are taking full advantage of social media / the internet rather than using Sosua And guess what, enough of these women are NOT necessarily going to clubs.
So I would have to question the logic of someone exclusively focused on a club as his main source for connecting with so called hot chicks, with men dropping $150 to $500 bucks a night just to be close to these club chicks, and totally ignore the connection that social media / the internet, western union, and men wifing chicks up is responsible for why enough chicks are not relying on Sosua. Once again what guys have been telling you, there is more than one way to get the job done. Without going to a club.I am just going back to the topic. Never changed it. People said chicks can now fly to other places. I said those chicks did not go anywhere. They on the clubs that are popping on the DR. Kaviar was never packed on a Friday or Sunday and now charges you to get in. That never happened before. Music done changed the game in DR. Same with lovera, quorum and La Romania is popping too. DR chicks not sitting home on social media they out. Instead of debating I keep asking when was the last time you went out to kaviar, lovera, quorum. Answer that question.
I am just going back to the topic. Fuck all these fucking debates! Post a TR or shut the fuck up!
The thread is called "Sousa Reports".
I am just going back to the topic. Never changed it. People said chicks can now fly to other places. I said those chicks did not go anywhere. They on the clubs that are popping on the DR. Kaviar was never packed on a friday or Sunday and now charges you to get in. That never happened before.Music done changed the game in DR. Same with lovera, quorum and La Romania is popping too. DR chicks not sitting home on social media they out.What people said, was chicks stepped up using the internet and social media. Made connections whereas chicas could meet or travel to where that monger is. Inclusive is that some chicks went to other places outside of the DR to work, got "wifed up " or "western unionized".
Aint nobody here claimed NO chicks were hanging out in the clubs too. If you are going to represent what people say, at least get it right. Your select but deficient account of what people share here, and chica behavior is not helping. Especially those that can benefit from an account that represents more than what you are focused on.
Instead of debating I keep asking when was the last time you went out to kaviar, lovera, quorum. Answer that question.Instead of deflecting and misinterpreting what people shared, How about you answer my question that I asked you in the 1st place?.
How much are these so called hotties getting paid? $150 $200 $300 or more? I'm trying to figure out, after you done dropped $100 - 500 dollars at the club, and a night with a hottie, what do those men get that was worth that kind of money?The reason I asked you that is because, plenty of guys (myself included) have been connecting with chicas through the internet, social media, and up close and personal without going to a club. And without the inflated expense associated with the club scene. Whens the last time you connected with several hot chicks that were not in a club? Either way you answer that, it only goes to show that going to a club is not exclusive in getting the job done. What you did get across is if one chooses to, they can blow a whole lot of unnecessary money for no reason, other than it's because it's in a club. I'm sorry, but a club scene IMO does not add value to women just because they set up shop there. As for the music? Anybody can get the music. That is not exclusively found in a club either.
BTW what do you think hot chicks are doing and where are they going when they arent in the clubs or in some clients bed? They simply turn off their computers and phones, all social media apps and wait until the weekend to get to the club? You mean chicks in the clubs never leave the club? Never use Facebook etc to connect and maintain contact with men? (foreign and domestic) You are correct it is not even close to a debate. You'd have to acknowledge a few things before that can happen.
Sosua is a still a great place to monger. The talent may not be as eloquent as it once was but when I started there 7 years ago the vets were saying the same things. Sosua is changing and staying the same. The talent is what changes everyday. Girls are coming and going all the time. The consant is the chicas need for fast cash in a country where there are no jobs or oppurtunity for advancement. For guys who are not expats it does not matter. Were stuck in a place we call sex prison. Our choice is banging 40 year plus women or coming to Sosua and banging 20 year olds on the cheap is a tropical paradise. I combine side trips to Santo Domingo and Santiago with chicas I know. 4 days in Sosua as much as I can take these days.
I have been to the hot clubs in Santo Domingo with friends. The women are sizzzling hot but they are not there looking to hookup with guys who are 50 plus.
One of the reasons for less hot chicas in Sosua is the internet, Facebook and Whatsapp. The hot ones don't have to leave their house until they have a "date" and then they go directly to the monger's location. The girls on my go to list never step foot outside of the carrito terminal in Sosua, when they get in their carrito in Puerto Plata they text me and tell me they are on their way and I pick them up when they arrive and off we go. All of the guys I know living in Sosua do the same exact thing. The hot one's out of Puerto Plata wouldn't get caught dead walking the strip in Sosua. One time I was waiting in my car for a girl to arrive across the street from the taxi stand at the Texaco station, she arrives and I'm waving to her and she actually took a damn moto to cross the street, she was that intimidated by the Sosua experience, she is still on my "list", a real sweetheart. There are hundreds of dimes in Puerto Plata just waiting to hook up with gringos, it just takes work that many guys aren't willing to put in, their loss and more for me and my friends to have, LOL. Facebook in my opinion has single handedly changed mongering for the better in many places, DR and Colombia are two of those places.You hve it correct, Manizales! It is really very simple, and should end the endless speculation and analysis.
Some folks here like subscribe to the dumbfuck hoe theory of all Dominicanas. Ugly, skanky and rip off artists, because it matches their own miserable mongering experiences. Only the hardcore, less in demand chicas, swarm the strip and the strip bars. (OK the occasional hot newbie, too)
We get reports they don't see hot chicas, because that's not where the hot chicas are! Even Revere is correct that the hot ones don't need to waste their time on the strip looking for a date. Only weekend warriors and once a year tourists feed from that pool, but there is still enough there to keep them happy.
I have had long term relationships with a International Lawyer - Press Attache, and an Education PhD in Europe and Canada, and I can tell you that my two "uneducated" regulars in DR have more street smarts and resourcefulness in their little fingers than those other two brains, put together!
I went looking for a haircut a couple of days ago by my fave hairdresser. She's no longer there, I'm told. Now back in SD with her bambinas. Not enough business to feed her kids. OK, no problem, forget it!
Then yesterday she shows up at my local bar and says she has come to give me my haircut. From SD? I ask? Si, autobus. How did you find me?, she just smiled.
Lazy?, No, resourceful? Yes.
Nice surprise, so I bring her back to my place for the full monty, Mani, Pedi and haircut, on my little balcony. She needs a fresh razor blade to finish up, so she just leans over and tells moreno pool guy to go get her one and tosses a few coins over the rail. He's back in 5 minutes with the suff! So easy!
She want's 1000 DP for 2 and half hours work. Great job! She has a killer body, and wanted to know if I wanted a massage, too, and I had fucked her a couple years ago in back of her salon. But no grasia, because she's amiga for my GF too!
So I gave her a propina and took her around the corner for a beer to meet our other amigas. I am not as horny as I used to be. Must be getting old.
She say's she will use the dinero to stay in Sosua for a couple days and see if she can find a little more business at the salon. Then back to her kids in SD.
I got to admire their work ethic.
Sorry if this is not a monger report, but it is life here in Sosua.
BangoSkank
11-22-18, 17:04
Fuck all these fucking debates! Post a TR or shut the fuck up!
The thread is called "Sousa Reports".I agree. It's always the same two or three windbags arguing. I can't even get past the first paragraph of most of these posts.
The thread is called "Sousa Reports".No, it isn't. It is called Sosua Reports.
For Sousa information, try here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sousa_River.
No, it isn't. It is called Sosua Reports.
For Sousa information, try here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sousa_River.Good call Frannie; thanks for wasting more web space. :)
Good call Frannie; thanks for wasting more web space. :)You too, TJ!
LOL.
SavePros321
11-25-18, 01:39
Just wanted to say I have not visited this forum in almost a year and nothing has changed, LOL. I can't believe how everyone this still arguing. I am guessing more places have closed down?
Oldkool is confirming (took him a minute) what most of us old heads have been saying for the longest: If you didn't get there before 2010, you missed a grand ball. I caught on late 2008, and got in about 4 more times. 2012 is when I really saw the place fall from grace.
And Manizales is right: if you are wondering where all the hot chicas are hanging out, it's online.
Mr Enternational
11-25-18, 01:59
Just wanted to say I have not visited this forum in almost a year and nothing has changed, LOL. I can't believe how everyone this still arguing.Great to see you back brother. The cruise ships have been coming in for a couple of years now.
It looks like bars will stay open 24/7 from December 1, 2018 to January 7, 2019.
SavePros321
11-25-18, 05:18
Great to see you back brother. The cruise ships have been coming in for a couple of years now.I was being facetious Mr. E, hahaha. I was just remembering when there were a bunch of people predicting the demise of Sosua because of them (the cruise ships).
Puerto Plata Kviarcasino night club attracts many pretty girls. But the problem is it gets going only after midnight. By the time you meet a girl, strike the deal, dance it will be at least 2 am. Quite a ride to Sosua even with a car. If the girl stays all night it's I'll be good or maybe you can keep her for couple of days. I did that couple of times before and kept the girl for three days. Many of them seem to be free especially on weekends. Caveat is you do need a car. I always rent one.
Puerto Plata has any pretty girls.
. For guys who are not expats it does not matter. Were stuck in a place we call sex prison. Our choice is banging 40 year plus women or coming to Sosua and banging 20 year olds on the cheap is a tropical paradise. I combine side trips to Santo Domingo and Santiago with chicas I know. 4 days in Sosua as much as I can take these days.
I have been to the hot clubs in Santo Domingo with friends. The women are sizzzling hot but they are not there looking to hookup with guys who are 50 plus.Let the church say amen! I'm in my 40's and here in sex prison my range of women that's available for me it's 35 and up. I don't go to clubs here in the US I stop growing way in my 30's. I lost the desire and passion to be chasing women my age. I see a lot of my friends are in the biker channels and similar social functions. My friends often shows me pictures and videos of the over 30 females in his social circle. Fuck that I pass on those overweight women! I would rather pay for a ticket and leave the country and reward myself with some young Spanish 18 and up Chicas.
I've been to the clubs in Santo Domingo in those women were drop dead gorgeous. However unless you were in a tourists frequent Establishment; those chicas are not trying to hook up with our old basic Spanish speaking asses. From my observation a lot of those chicas are Either accompanied by a male or are with their friends and don't want to be bothered a gringo. Sosua cuts through the chase. It's a P4 P trap house. You have Traphouse Chicas. If you want to play you make the best of the place while you are there.
Puerto Plata has nice cabanas that you can rent for low prices. They generaly very nice and you do not have to keep her all night.
Puerto Plata Kviarcasino night club attracts many pretty girls. But the problem is it gets going only after midnight. By the time you meet a girl, strike the deal, dance it will be at least 2 am. Quite a ride to Sosua even with a car. If the girl stays all night it's I'll be good or maybe you can keep her for couple of days. I did that couple of times before and kept the girl for three days. Many of them seem to be free especially on weekends. Caveat is you do need a car. I always rent one.
Puerto Plata has any pretty girls.
Just came back from a week in sosua. I had a blast overall! The weather was perfect! As usual a lot of buddies were in town, in addition to friends who live there. This was probably my 5th thanksgiving in sosua. There seemed to be a lot less guys to me. In my opinion its slowi ng down. I had good sex on most days. There were enough attractive women. Had a gorgeous Venezuelan chica the day before I left! Smoking body with awesome service. Cost me 3500 pesos, worth every penny. The night before I had a bad run in with a chica who got to the room and reneged on the agreed upon BBBJ. I was furious and lost it a little. She says are going to hit me? Papi don't hit me. I was screaming for her to get dressed. She wouldn't get off the bed. Come sit down papi and talk to me. I ended up giving her the full price just to get rid of her. I was angry the rest of the night. This is becoming more common. In the future I won't do as many new Chicas. Their beginning to see us as prey. I don't think she ever intended to provide good service. Anyway, I pulled myself together and ended on a good note. I'll be back soon. Sosua isn't what it was and I doubt it ever will be. But with the beach and the buddies its still a good time. Dudes better start building their own chica network. The strip is becoming bad news. Solo me dos centavos. Peace.
Charles Pooter
11-25-18, 23:07
Caveat is you do need a car.
I know you are this board's car hire fetishist, Sammon, but public transport does run past Kviar to Sosua with reasonably frequency even in the small hours and for nominal cost. Different story if raining, of course, but that is relatively rare.
Why did you post about Kviar in the Sosua section rather than the Puerto Plata section?
The night before I had a bad run in with a chica who got to the room and reneged on the agreed upon BBBJ. I was furious and lost it a little. She says are going to hit me? Papi don't hit me. I was screaming for her to get dressed. .I always feel a bit sorry for both parties when this happens as it is not always clear whether this was due to miscommunication or deliberate deception. Presumably you were angry because there was absolutely no ambiguity about the situations and she had unequivocally agreed to "mamar sin condone" or "chupar sin condone" at the price negotiation stage. Was she saying "Papi don't hit me" in English or in Spanish and did she offer any reason to go back on what she had agreed on, or did she now say she had not agreed to it or had misunderstood?
Mr Enternational
11-26-18, 01:17
I always feel a bit sorry for both parties when this happens as it is not always clear whether this was due to miscommunication or deliberate deception. Oh it is pretty clear alright. I have been saying for years how deceitful Sosua hoes can be, but I was always the crazy one with something against the place. I have never had anything against the place. It is scamming ass hoes that I have something against.
I always feel a bit sorry for both parties when this happens as it is not always clear whether this was due to miscommunication or deliberate deception. Presumably you were angry because there was absolutely no ambiguity about the situations and she had unequivocally agreed to "mamar sin condone" or "chupar sin condone" at the price negotiation stage. Was she saying "Papi don't hit me" in English or in Spanish and did she offer any reason to go back on what she had agreed on, or did she now say she had not agreed to it or had misunderstood?She said it in Spanish. Vas a golpearme? No me golpe papi! Before we left I said clearly, as I always do. Sexo con condom pero tu me chupas sin condom. She agreed, then in the room after fondling me she ask for a condom para chupar. I said. Te dije tu me chupas sin condom. She said. Pero es muy peligroso para me. So she clearly had no intention of providing the agreed upon services. I lost it for a second. I almost smacked her. I'm going to find myself a bartender novia, supplement her with chicas I already know and spend less time on the strip. I love the beach and hanging with all my buddies, but the monger scene is losing its luster. Many predatory and mafiosa Chicas. A lot of dudes don't want to admit things are changing but they are. Got to change with the times hermanos!
Just came back from a week in sosua. I had a blast overall! The weather was perfect! As usual a lot of buddies were in town, in addition to friends who live there. This was probably my 5th thanksgiving in sosua. There seemed to be a lot less guys to me. In my opinion its slowi ng down. I had good sex on most days. There were enough attractive women. Had a gorgeous Venezuelan chica the day before I left! Smoking body with awesome service. Cost me 3500 pesos, worth every penny.Glad you had a good time overall!
That might have been one of our regulars, the legendary Miss V. A true fashionista model who works out in the gym in Cabarete every day, but she left town on Friday. I posted about my happy hours with her and my chica some time ago. If it was her, she has no cedula so she can't get in the usual hotels.
Sorry to hear about your little soap opera. You did the right thing by paying her off. It is so easy to escalate those epidodes into a bad scene fo everybody.
But I always maintain with a little foresight and patience, those things can be avoided. To meet a complete stranger off the strip and be sharing your bed with her all within half an hour or so, you take your chances, anywhere in the world.
I only go with chicas that hang with chicas I know, so it doesn't happen to me. They all have reps to maintain. You can learn a lot about a chica over a beer or two.
I spent Sunday up in Charamicos with local family. There's enough up and coming fresh stuff up there to last me a lifetime!
Sent GF home to PP till next Thursday, so lots of time to chill, hit the beach, work out this old body, and stay healthy!
And who knows what the week has in store? LOL.
Sosua SI!
Oh it is pretty clear alright. I have been saying for years how deceitful Sosua hoes can be, but I was always the crazy one with something against the place. I have never had anything against the place. It is scamming ass hoes that I have something against.Bruh! These estúpida putas are cutting their own throat. Since 2012 I'm normally there 6 times a year. One year I came eight times. I can see there are a lot less guys coming. Many dudes are saying their tired of the drama with the Chicas. Their choosing to spend their money in other destinations. These putas are not smart overall. Not that they represent la republica completely. They don't. But their taking money out of their own pocket. But I'll adjust and be ok. I'm not going to turn into Mr. Anti sosua. It just tickles me how dudes act like things aren't changing. Peace.
She said it in Spanish. Vas a golpearme? No me golpe papi! Before we left I said clearly, as I always do. Sexo con condom pero tu me chupas sin condom. She agreed, then in the room after fondling me she ask for a condom para chupar. I said. Te dije tu me chupas sin condom. She said. Pero es muy peligroso para me. So she clearly had no intention of providing the agreed upon services. I lost it for a second. I almost smacked her. I'm going to find myself a bartender novia, supplement her with chicas I already know and spend less time on the strip. I love the beach and hanging with all my buddies, but the monger scene is losing its luster. Many predatory and mafiosa Chicas. A lot of dudes don't want to admit things are changing but they are. Got to change with the times hermanos!Right on mi hermano!
You've hit the magic combination to today's Sosua!
I almost smacked her. I'm going to find myself a bartender novia, supplement her with chicas I already know and spend less time on the strip. I love the beach and hanging with all my buddies, but the monger scene is losing its luster. Many predatory and mafiosa Chicas. A lot of dudes don't want to admit things are changing but they are. Got to change with the times hermanos!I was in the Sue 2 and a half months ago. Out of the five chicas sessioned, 4 were repeats. It's like the Chicas on the strip to not phase me. They only serve as visual fore play. The one new Chica came with recommendations from big mama. She delivered big-time.
I've been coming to the Sue now for about five years. I know a lot of chicas on the strip that have been there since I've been coming to the Sue. I see some of these Chicas and I'm wondering how do they compete against the constant flow of new younger versions of themselves. Many of them have gain a lot of weight and are far from what they were once physically.
I guess over the years you build a good clientele that grows with you. For example my girl Maria was my Boca Chica favorite 5 years ago with her nice sexy young body. She was around 26 at that time. Her body is far from what it used to be but she has some appeal.
I almost went back down memory lane with her because I didn't want any of chicas hanging on the strip. She wasn't a dime an eight or a seven. However I know she wasn't about that bullshit and knew I would slap a hoe quick. She said she really needed some money because she hadn't worked all week. I gave her 500 pesos and introduced her to one of my partners. They agreed on 1500 pesos but he gave her 2000. They repeated the next day and she is now in his rotation.
Hesitating between these places.
I know Tijuana well and have been several times. My system is perfectly set up that I can bang 10 chicks a day if I want to there, without moving from the hotel. But I'm a bit bored of Tijuana and want to explore new horizons LOL.
-Not looking for GFE or flirting / picking up non-pros.
-Only looking for pros, and don't like to move around too much. It's all about getting many girls a day, without wasting time, straight to the point.
-My budget is flexible.
-I enjoy my comfort aka having a nice hotel close to everything.
-Spanish level. Intermediate.
Did a bit of research and I'm open to both places (Medellin: casas + strip clubs) or Sosua (bars). Input? Thanks!
We have the same pattern of visiting Sosua. I go 4 or 5 times a year like you. I agree pulling girls from the strip has its risks but is a lot of fun. Every now and then you get a lemon but over all the chicas are rather nicce. Do not forget some of us mongers are ass holes. I have met more then my share. On my last trip I got some of my best BBJs ever. They were going all out to get the juice. I never asked for BBJs up front. I assumed the sale. Sosua has its share of scammers but they are the exception in my experince. I just booked my next trip for Mid January, My plan is to do 2 a day no more. I usually go nuts when I see all the available pussy walking around. My leche is precious so I plan to take my time.
Bruh! These estpida putas are cutting their own throat. Since 2012 I'm normally there 6 times a year. One year I came eight times. I can see there are a lot less guys coming. Many dudes are saying their tired of the drama with the Chicas. Their choosing to spend their money in other destinations. These putas are not smart overall. Not that they represent la republica completely. They don't. But their taking money out of their own pocket. But I'll adjust and be ok. I'm not going to turn into Mr. Anti sosua. It just tickles me how dudes act like things aren't changing. Peace.
Bruh! These estpida putas are cutting their own throat. Since 2012 I'm normally there 6 times a year. One year I came eight times. I can see there are a lot less guys coming. Many dudes are saying their tired of the drama with the Chicas. Their choosing to spend their money in other destinations. These putas are not smart overall. Not that they represent la republica completely. They don't. But their taking money out of their own pocket. But I'll adjust and be ok. I'm not going to turn into Mr. Anti sosua. It just tickles me how dudes act like things aren't changing. Peace.They have a short term perspective, not a business plan. And from what I can see, you paid this chica in full for doing nothing, so maybe her business plan is effective for her. She may even have returned to the bar and found another customer to give her money for nothing. Nice work if you can get it! Of course, it was probably best to pay her off and cut your losses, because in these situations once it becomes clear that there is no chemistry, going any further is a waste of time.
I've been to the su over 10 times this might be the last time I go for a while. I am starting to branch out and try some new countries. I love the set up in Sosua. Everything on foot the beach is really nice. There's still a great time to be had, but I also see what everyone is saying as far as the overall quality going down and the bullshit. I always manage to have a great time there. I think it's just time for me to see some different scenery.
I've been to the su over 10 times this might be the last time I go for a while. I am starting to branch out and try some new countries. I love the set up in Sosua. Everything on foot the beach is really nice. There's still a great time to be had, but I also see what everyone is saying as far as the overall quality going down and the bullshit. I always manage to have a great time there. I think it's just time for me to see some different scenery.When reading these posts, keep in mind that the high season in Sosua, like PP and Cab, runs from mid November to mid May. That's when it gets really busy. It's also a little more comfortable, temperature wise.
A lot of reports about the lack of quality/quantity are posted during the slow months, June through November. That's when it's hot, humid and subject to hurricane weather. The doldrums.
I just had my son in for a week at the Casa Marina, the price, all inclusive, $675 US for Deluxe renovated oceanview room, including single supplement. That will nearly double December thru March. Similar with short term apt, condo and villa rentals, you pay a premium.
It's the same every year!
Like anywhere, you have to go at the right time, to get the best out of Sosua!
I just had my son in for a week at the Casa Marina, the price, all inclusive, $675 US for Deluxe renovated oceanview room, including single supplement. That will nearly double December thru March. Similar with short term apt, condo and villa rentals, you pay a premium.That includes none stop return air fare from TO, of course. Hell of a package!
That's one hell of a deal. I envy some of the folks in NY / NJ / FL, hell flying out of the worlds busiest airport in Atlanta to sdq / pop / or sti prices is ridiculous as Delta has a lock on flights unless you want to waste your time and energy with Spirit or crazy connecting flights. If I do 2 months in advance flight I can get around 600 for pop 600 for sti and 500 for sdq.
That includes none stop return air fare from TO, of course. Hell of a package!
I've been reading this forum for a few years, absorbed a lot of great info and lessons from people who live and frequent the island.
I've been to many countries, mongering, exploring, eating and beaching it.
I frown on the people saying bad things about DR, and Sosua in general. Just like any country or town I visited, it has its own character, style and taste.
Human nature doesn't like change, but that's part of life, a lot of gentlemen here should have lived long enough to embrace change in this day and age, not many busy towns on this earth are the same as they were 10-20 years ago.
The key to keeping the country fresh is not to visit it 10 x a year, repetitive things get boring just like the same sandwich for lunch isn't as appetizing after a while, I like to switch up the vacations every opportunity I get.
That being said, I want to go back to Sosua just as bad as I want to go back to Asia, South America and Central America. Every place has something nice to offer.
I wasn't happy to hear picaflor closed, it was a very organized and respectable place, where the girls and gents were safe and civilized for DR standards.
Long live Sosua, can't wait to take my yearly winter trip down there and jump in the ocean waves for hours!
I was in Sosua, not Sousa (thanks Frannie) last week for 5 nights and had a blast as usual.
I stayed at the Alicia Beach hotel. The new operators are doing their best in making improvements. I still love the hotel, it is not on a noisy street and has a nice pool to boot. And breakfast is included. The night security guard is now carrying a shotgun, which is different than before. I hope the place stays in business and I hope the best for the new operators.
Spent a good amount of time with BrotherP on the beach at Fast Freddies and in some of the clubs. He is one of the best mongers that I have met. It was my pleasure hanging with him.
I got there late afternoon Friday, exchanged some money, and almost unpacked. I hit the streets around 7 pm as I was walking past New Garden, I met the sweetest chica from Haiti on the street. I decided to have a drink with her at Bourbon Street; the place was packed. While we were in the restaurant, there were a butt-load of chicas in the place and on the sidewalk outside the place. I did not enough fingers and toes to count them all! It seemed that all was well in Sosua. I took the girl back to the hotel; she was a pistol during rack operations. I was with her a couple of more times during my stay. I introduced her to "Mister Water Jet" in the pool. She loved that damn thing! I will stay in touch with her for sure!
Clubs: On Friday and Saturday nights, all the places seemed packed, as well as on the street. Even on the slower nights, there were many women to chose from. I never go to Clasico's, but I did hang out at Merengue on the slow nights, and the place had plenty of chicas in the place. My go to spot is Sosua Lights. My pal Juan was not there. Miguel told me he was in a hospital in Santiago because he had brain issues. My Spanish is limited in the medical field, so I did not understand all the details. I wish him the best of luck and hope that his family is doing well.
Beach: The beach was quite active with chicas walking and looking for work. There was very little police presence on the beach and on the streets. The girls were not getting rounded up whatsoever.
Girls: I only repeated with two of my past chicas (one is Mr. E's favorite), all the others were new. I never paid more than 2000 and was never pressured for any more money. They were all ST, because my mom does not allow sleepovers.
Sometimes, it's just a matter of luck in Sosua. When I met that sweetie from Haiti, it was by luck walking down the same street. One night, I walking out of Merengue and I walked into this hot 20 year old from SD. We went to Sosua Lights and we had a blast there and back in the hotel.
After a day at the beach with my sweetie from Haiti, we hit the pool for "Mister Water Jet" operations, and then rack operations in the room. Later, I was walking with her because she was headed home. But the night was early, so I kept walking. Then, this motorcycle pulled up right in front of me and it was blocking my path. Then I noticed that the driver was crazy ass Patricia!
Patricia offered me the world for 1000 p and I could not turn her down. Before we went into the room, I checked her for weapons. No weapons; it was game on! She was a blast in the room. But if you do not know her, I would advise extreme caution. The chica is crazy!
Food: I ate at several restaurants and here are my thoughts:
Sinatra's. I had the steak and lobster; it was good.
Ottimo. I had a great pasta dish, but my girl had the lasagna, which sucked!
Baileys. I had a good pasta dish.
Bourbon Street. The gumbo and jambalaya are very good.
Fast Freddies. Good beach food.
Alicia Hotel. Very good free breakfast.
Overall thoughts:
Yes, Sosua is changing, but I hear the same damn thing in every place I visit. I hear it in Argentina, Colombia, Ecuador, Brazil, Spain, Mexico, PI, Thailand, etc. But times have changed, so we need to adjust with the changing times; it is what it is.
Sosua is still bargain with the peso rate of 50 to 1. For me, coming from San Diego, it is one hell of trip. But I still go there at least twice a year; that's how much I enjoy the place. I will keep returning!
As always, just my pinche two pesos!
While we all note the changes on Sosua it constants are what keep us coming back. First, Access to a few hundred women willing screw your brains out for 40 bucks. At my age every girl under 30 is a 10. Second a number of great beachs with tropical weather all year around. On my last trip took the time to just view Sosua beach something I had taken for granite. It is truly beautiful. I thoroughly enjoy laying on the beachs with my favorite beverages, Third, there places to eat that I just loves. Baileys Sinatras. The German place next to Borbon St are all bucket list things for every trip. These 3 things at the price we pay are unbeatable.
Mr Enternational
11-30-18, 03:39
Girls: I only repeated with two of my past chicas (one is Mr. E's favorite),
Then, this motorcycle pulled up right in front of me and it was blocking my path. Then I noticed that the driver was crazy ass Patricia!Man those chicks are still out there! I hope Juan gets his ass better.
I was in Sosua, not Sousa (thanks Frannie) last week for 5 nights and had a blast as usual.
I stayed at the Alicia Beach hotel. The new operators are doing their best in making improvements. I still love the hotel, it is not on a noisy street and has a nice pool to boot. And breakfast is included. The night security guard is now carrying a shotgun, which is different than before. I hope the place stays in business and I hope the best for the new operators.
Spent a good amount of time with BrotherP on the beach at Fast Freddies and in some of the clubs. He is one of the best mongers that I have met. It was my pleasure hanging with him.
I got there late afternoon Friday, exchanged some money, and almost unpacked. I hit the streets around 7 pm as I was walking past New Garden, I met the sweetest chica from Haiti on the street. I decided to have a drink with her at Bourbon Street; the place was packed. While we were in the restaurant, there were a butt-load of chicas in the place and on the sidewalk outside the place. I did not enough fingers and toes to count them all! It seemed that all was well in Sosua. I took the girl back to the hotel; she was a pistol during rack operations. I was with her a couple of more times during my stay. I introduced her to "Mister Water Jet" in the pool. She loved that damn thing! I will stay in touch with her for sure!
Clubs: On Friday and Saturday nights, all the places seemed packed, as well as on the street. Even on the slower nights, there were many women to chose from. I never go to Clasico's, but I did hang out at Merengue on the slow nights, and the place had plenty of chicas in the place. My go to spot is Sosua Lights. My pal Juan was not there. Miguel told me he was in a hospital in Santiago because he had brain issues. My Spanish is limited in the medical field, so I did not understand all the details. I wish him the best of luck and hope that his family is doing well.
Beach: The beach was quite active with chicas walking and looking for work. There was very little police presence on the beach and on the streets. The girls were not getting rounded up whatsoever.
Girls: I only repeated with two of my past chicas (one is Mr. E's favorite), all the others were new. I never paid more than 2000 and was never pressured for any more money. They were all ST, because my mom does not allow sleepovers.
Sometimes, it's just a matter of luck in Sosua. When I met that sweetie from Haiti, it was by luck walking down the same street. One night, I walking out of Merengue and I walked into this hot 20 year old from SD. We went to Sosua Lights and we had a blast there and back in the hotel.
After a day at the beach with my sweetie from Haiti, we hit the pool for "Mister Water Jet" operations, and then rack operations in the room. Later, I was walking with her because she was headed home. But the night was early, so I kept walking. Then, this motorcycle pulled up right in front of me and it was blocking my path. Then I noticed that the driver was crazy ass Patricia!
Patricia offered me the world for 1000 p and I could not turn her down. Before we went into the room, I checked her for weapons. No weapons; it was game on! She was a blast in the room. But if you do not know her, I would advise extreme caution. The chica is crazy!
Food: I ate at several restaurants and here are my thoughts:
Sinatra's. I had the steak and lobster; it was good.
Ottimo. I had a great pasta dish, but my girl had the lasagna, which sucked!
Baileys. I had a good pasta dish.
Bourbon Street. The gumbo and jambalaya are very good.
Fast Freddies. Good beach food.
Alicia Hotel. Very good free breakfast.
Overall thoughts:
Yes, Sosua is changing, but I hear the same damn thing in every place I visit. I hear it in Argentina, Colombia, Ecuador, Brazil, Spain, Mexico, PI, Thailand, etc. But times have changed, so we need to adjust with the changing times; it is what it is.
Sosua is still bargain with the peso rate of 50 to 1. For me, coming from San Diego, it is one hell of trip. But I still go there at least twice a year; that's how much I enjoy the place. I will keep returning!
As always, just my pinche two pesos!You should have had Lobster dinner at Alicia. It was excellent at 600 pesos. I too like Alicia hotel. Like the new re modeled rooms. I always rent a car and feel safe at their parking space. Hope many of the mongers stay there. The new caretakers aim to please.
Breakfast was good. Which is free for one but if you buy for the girl I believe 400 pesos depending on the order. Do not want them to close. When I went it was pretty much empty. Maybe because of the stigma attached to the murder. As I mentioned two local girls did not want to go there. I guess they believe in ghosts.
Do not care much for Haitian Chicas. Few years there was a young pretty a Haitian Chica working at a corner bar on the way to the beach. Nice tight body. I kept her for three days. Very sweet. That bar closed and do not know where the girl went. I used to wait for her till 11 pm when she finishes her work. Other than that never took Haitian girl.
Every day I went for a massage at Annie's. This place is next to M&M massage. A black girl named Margherite did excellent massage. Was offered happy ending but I declined. Do not know how much extra.
Good fresh fish at the beach.
Went to Cabarete couple of times. Did not see many girls.
I've been reading this forum for a few years, absorbed a lot of great info and lessons from people who live and frequent the island.
I've been to many countries, mongering, exploring, eating and beaching it.
I frown on the people saying bad things about DR, and Sosua in general. Just like any country or town I visited, it has its own character, style and taste.
Human nature doesn't like change, but that's part of life, a lot of gentlemen here should have lived long enough to embrace change in this day and age, not many busy towns on this earth are the same as they were 10-20 years ago.Every thing changes, we all get older so we have to adjust.
Old Sosua was about dancing bachata meringue salsa in the average bar. A tropical island exotic experience. Now you have football, soccer and hockey (and karioke ugh!) on giant TVs, and a smart phone to keep you instantly touch with every chica in and out of town, no more search and destroy missions necessary. A chica's name lights up on your phone. "Where are you? "Mi aki! OK, una hora?" "Si" is how it goes for me. Like fast food delivery at the touch of a button. Everything is now immediatel online and available.
Some bars have now gone karioke (ugh!) So technology has taken over Sosua too!
My son recently came in for a week, and I didn't have to go to the airport and wait to pick him up or drop him off untli I saw his plane coming in from Toronto. On "Plane Finder" app, I just sat in my bar and tracked his damn plane all the way from Toronto in real time! So you can get there just a the right time and not worry about delayed flights. Mind boggling!!
In the old Sosua I met my first long time GF in the corner bar, my first night in. When she left she asked what I was doing he next day, I said probably the beach.
The next day I was having a beer at the little parking lot shack, and she came up all sweaty and exhausted, but with a big smile on her face! Turns out there is more than one beach in Sosua, and she had combed every bar on both beaches for 2 and a half hours looking for me. That's when I knew she must really love me! LOL No WhatsApp in those days!
So yes Sosua changes from year to year, season to season, week to week and even day to day. Beach bars seem to change owners and names every week and the action moves around.
A lot of negative reports come fron guys that don't like the place or never go there, or get their "intel" second hand. Don't read a restaurant revue from some guy who had a bad steak there a couple years ago! LOL.
Just stick to the to the boots on the ground reports from guys who are actually there, and you'll get a better picture of current conditions!
Is it perfect? No, like anywhere, you can get your ass into a lot of trouble if you don't follow a couple of simple common sense rules!
The secret to Sosua is making it work for you!
Every thing changes, we all get older so we have to adjust.
Old Sosua was about dancing bachata meringue salsa in the average bar. A tropical island exotic experience. Now you have football, soccer and hockey (and karioke ugh!) on giant TVs, and a smart phone to keep you instantly touch with every chica in and out of town, no more search and destroy missions necessary. A chica's name lights up on your phone. "Where are you? "Mi aki! OK, una hora?" "Si" is how it goes for me. Like fast food delivery at the touch of a button. Everything is now immediatel online and available.
Some bars have now gone karioke (ugh!) So technology has taken over Sosua too!
My son recently came in for a week, and I didn't have to go to the airport and wait to pick him up or drop him off untli I saw his plane coming in from Toronto. On "Plane Finder" app, I just sat in my bar and tracked his damn plane all the way from Toronto in real time! So you can get there just a the right time and not worry about delayed flights. Mind boggling!!
In the old Sosua I met my first long time GF in the corner bar, my first night in. When she left she asked what I was doing he next day, I said probably the beach.Oakie taking us down memory lane lo. Remember the internet cafes that were packed with girls working their western union hustle? Phones that could only do talk and texts? Shit, the flip phone Razor was the world's greatest invention.
I'm in the Philippines now but I miss the DR with the amazon bodies and look that said let's fuck.
IMO Sosua is still fun but the whole island is more fun.
NightWhaler
11-30-18, 22:19
Greetings to all. FYI they are installing CCTV cameras up and down Pedro Clisante. The most obvious ones are on the corner by Sinatra's. Typically 2 fixed cameras and 1 PTZ (pan, tilt, and zoom) seems Big Brother has hit the Sue. They have some out on the main highway going in too. So please check yourself we are being recorded by the powers that be.
Peace,
Oakie taking us down memory lane lo. Remember the internet cafes that were packed with girls working their western union hustle? Phones that could only do talk and texts? Shit, the flip phone Razor was the world's greatest invention.
I'm in the Philippines now but I miss the DR with the amazon bodies and look that said let's fuck.
IMO Sosua is still fun but the whole island is more fun.Miss your posts here, my original mentor!
I checked the PI forum, but maybe you are laying low!
Greetings to all. FYI they are installing CCTV cameras up and down Pedro Clisante. The most obvious ones are on the corner by Sinatra's. Typically 2 fixed cameras and 1 PTZ (pan, tilt, and zoom) seems Big Brother has hit the Sue. They have some out on the main highway going in too. So please check yourself we are being recorded by the powers that be.
Peace,Good heads up.
Tempoecorto
12-01-18, 03:15
As always, just my pinche two pesos!Always a fun read, in the inimitable Jackin style!
Miss your posts here, my original mentor!
I checked the PI forum, but maybe you are laying low!I posted in Subic bay section hermano. The shyness of the Asian girls takes a lot of work to pull normal girls. The gogo bars and online are the best options here to eliminate all the time consuming bullshit.
It's some fine girls here but they aren't out looking for sex unless it's that kind of venue. The people are extremely nice and the cities are clean and organized. Everyone here says yes sir and no sir. The sex is hit and miss. Had one girl fuck me good and apologized afterwards, go figure.
Hitting the DR for Christmas and really looking forward to it.
Greetings to all. FYI they are installing CCTV cameras up and down Pedro Clisante. The most obvious ones are on the corner by Sinatra's. Typically 2 fixed cameras and 1 PTZ (pan, tilt, and zoom) seems Big Brother has hit the Sue. They have some out on the main highway going in too. So please check yourself we are being recorded by the powers that be.
Peace,I figured there would be blowback for the murder. They had to take some action.
I figured there would be blowback for the murder. They had to take some action.Life is cheap here.
One of our regular chicas, Mariela, I had a drink with yesterday afternoon, got hit by a bus up somewhere near the Texaco last night.
Maybe the CC is just traffic control?
I have a joke with the chicas, showing me their motoconcho scars on their legs. They all have them. A rite of passage.
Which reminds me of their advice, if you need to take a moto, always pick the older guy, with the vest and the helmet. He has survived! Lol
GoldenGreek
12-02-18, 07:29
I am just going back to the topic. Never changed it. People said chicks can now fly to other places. I said those chicks did not go anywhere. They on the clubs that are popping on the DR. Kaviar was never packed on a friday or Sunday and now charges you to get in. That never happened before. Music done changed the game in DR. Same with lovera, quorum and La Romania is popping too. DR chicks not sitting home on social media they out. Instead of debating I keep asking when was the last time you went out to kaviar, lovera, quorum. Answer that question.Are those other clubs you mentioned other than Cavier near Sosua?
GoldenGreek
12-02-18, 08:14
Will be in Sosua from the 4th till 11th of December,Third time there is 12 months, If anyone is out there hit me up and lets meet for a drink.
Glad to see all the positive reports on Sosua, I was there in May and it wasn't a lot of girls as I hadn't remembered the first time I had went. Anybody in Sosua had any luck or seen Venezolanas? I'm tryna see what that be like. I'll be in Sosua couple days soon after landing and spending a couple days in Santo Domingo.
HawasKaPujari
12-02-18, 20:10
A chica's name lights up on your phone. "Where are you? "Mi aki! OK, una hora?" "Si" is how it goes for me. Like fast food delivery at the touch of a button. Everything is now immediately online and available.Which app is most recommended to pick up chicas easily in the DR?
Are those other clubs you mentioned other than Cavier near Sosua?Kviar disco is on the way to Puerto Plata from Sosua. It is just past Playa Dorado complex. Same building as casino on the right side. At least half hour drive. If you do not have a car it is going to be a problem. Place gets going only after midnight. There are taxis outside but they will charge you a lot coming back to Sosua. No cheap public transport middle of the night.
Manizales911
12-03-18, 00:52
No cheap public transport middle of the night.Sure there is, public taxis run all night long,60 pesos to Sosua.
Realistically, when you are out of a disco with a girl at 2 am into the darkness outside Playa Dorado you need your own vehicle or take a taxi, maybe same $40 back to SOS, same it may cost you to rent an uninsured car.
Mr Enternational
12-03-18, 04:47
you need your own vehicle or take a taxi, maybe same $40 back to SOS, same it may cost you to rent an uninsured car.$40 you must be renting a Mercedes. I rent cars all the time from $14-$23 per day. The insurance is on the credit card. If you want the rental place's insurance then it may cost you $40.
I'll be in Sosúa at Garden Condos this weekend Dec 7-10. Hope to share a beer with with some fellow mongers. Report promised after the trip.
Rus 501.
Which app is most recommended to pick up chicas easily in the DR?I may have mislead you.
There is no magic "app". other than the usual social media sites, FB, DC and the rest. I was referring to my smartphone contacts lists in WhatsApp, Messenger, Messages and Email. Chicas here all use one or the other to keep in touch. I suppose the magic is keeping your contact list up to date.
Likewise my statement, "life is cheap here" was just a gut reaction to seing yet another bunch of kids lose their mother before her time.
All the chicas were upset the next day about the news, and while they were passing her photo around, my regular in PP sent me a recent photo of us three together.
No newspapers here, but the word soon gets around!
https://dominicantoday.com/dr/opinion/2018/12/03/big-problems-in-sosua/
The town is taking a lot of heat.
https://dominicantoday.com/dr/opinion/2018/12/03/big-problems-in-sosua/
The town is taking a lot of heat.Reports of the demise of Sosua pop up all the time.
But the demise of Sosua is greatly exagerrated. My buddy couldn't even get a longer term rental in Europa! Weren't even interested. A couple years ago they would have taken his cash, and bumped somebody!
Mr Enternational
12-03-18, 20:32
https://dominicantoday.com/dr/opinion/2018/12/03/big-problems-in-sosua/
The town is taking a lot of heat.LOL. Fuck they get this research from? Wasn't no damn Haitians in Brazil. And it is more people in Rio alone than in all of DR. So how are a few Haitians going to make millions of Brazilians uneasy?
Sure there is, public taxis run all night long,60 pesos to Sosua."Public taxis run all night".
Doo da, doo da!
Sorry, couldn't resist!
LOL. Fuck they get this research from? Wasn't no damn Haitians in Brazil. And it is more people in Rio alone than in all of DR. So how are a few Haitians going to make millions of Brazilians uneasy?Read between the lines, you're a smart man.
Dominicans HATE Haitians and will find any excuse to condemn them. The guy who mudered the girl was Nigerian not Haitian but no need to to let facts get in the way of blaming Haitians. Many of the Haitians I know are very self conscience do to the negative stereo types the have to deal with. The invasion of Haitian Americans of Rio is a serious joke. The Haitian girls can not compete with Rio talent unless they were giving it away. When facts do not fit make up some shit.
LOL. Fuck they get this research from? Wasn't no damn Haitians in Brazil. And it is more people in Rio alone than in all of DR. So how are a few Haitians going to make millions of Brazilians uneasy?I agree with Mr E. I travelled to Rio approx every 4 months from 2003-2006. There were no Haitians working or walking around there. I remember kicking with one of the darkest, blue eyed girl that had a a "made in Brazil" tattoo on the small of her back.
Dominicans HATE Haitians and will find any excuse to condemn them. The guy who mudered the girl was Nigerian not Haitian but no need to to let facts get in the way of blaming Haitians. Many of the Haitians I know are very self conscience do to the negative stereo types the have to deal with. The invasion of Haitian Americans of Rio is a serious joke. The Haitian girls can not compete with Rio talent unless they were giving it away. When facts do not fit make up some shit.Their saying Haitian American, but think its clear they mean African American. I think their saying Haitian to use the animosity some doninicans have toward Haitians to serve their purpose.
Their also using the murder to push their agenda. Which seems to be making sosua less multi racial. It probably won't work. But I do think there will be more blow back from the murder. The cameras are the first step in my opinion. Anyway, I'll be back soon. We got to meet for a beer oakie.
Sure there is, public taxis run all night long,60 pesos to Sosua.Yes, taxis run all night with less frequency with no fixed times. You need to walk from Kviar to the Main Street and wait by the side of the road till one shows up. If there is room in the taxi which I have seen packed like sardines. Kviar is kind of high end Disco. Would the girl do all these to save you dollars? I doubt it. I always rent a car. Even the girl I picked up at Classico wanted to take a moto to Alicia not knowing I have a car. It is hardly 5 minutes walk. It maybe partly they want to help moto guys or plain lazy to walk.
Only good thing picking girl up in PP is it is likely she will stay all night.
Their saying Haitian American, but think its clear they mean African American. ................BB...Bingo!
Mr Enternational
12-04-18, 06:51
Their saying Haitian American, but think its clear they mean African American. I think their saying Haitian to use the animosity some doninicans have toward Haitians to serve their purpose.
Their also using the murder to push their agenda. Which seems to be making sosua less multi racial. It probably won't work. But I do think there will be more blow back from the murder.Sure it would read better at first that way, but it would still be a lie. Nobody was checking tourists' passports and no monger tourists were being thrown in jail for being loud in Rio. It was pretty much the same as Sosua. A bunch of guys gathered on one corner (at Meia Pataca, Terraco Atlantico, Balcony, and now Mab's cafe restaurants or Help Disco) of a big ass neighborhood, in a big ass city, in a big ass country.
Maybe it is just me, but when he throws in the part about a mother of 4 being killed, it reads this chick had 4 kids with probably 4 different dicks and was out hoeing with one of these people that he is trying to portray as monsters. In trying to garner sympathy, it more so reveals the irresponsibility of the 29 year old chick.
Last night around 8, I walked over to Baleys for my monthly pizza fix, good as ever!
I took the long way back to my place to check out the strip as I rarely get down there.
Its only Monday night, but the street is teaming with chicas, and looks like the good old days, no cops around.
I saw some fantastic looking chicas, if you like young, clear skinned, long legged girls model type with real pretty faces. By my rating lots of 8 9 and 10's Even I was amazed. There definitely was that old time vibe in the air.
As I walked up Clisante I got called over by a buddy that runs one of the joints, and sat and he bought me a beer. I remarked on the number of good looking chicas milling around, like Party Central, and asked what was going on?
He shook his head and mentioned that time of year. As we talked a couple of 10's walked by and even this jaded guy who hires them for living, got them into conversation.
He wanted me to stick around, for more beer but I had a belly full of Bayley's pizza in my gut and needed to walk it off.
Bottom line. If there' s that much action and choice, on a Monday night at 8 pm, Sosua is happening, and to me it offers as much, if not more than it ever did.
I have no hesitation in telling guys (who like the Dominicana / Haitian type) to "Come on down", you won't be disappointed!
Last night around 8, I walked over to Baleys for my monthly pizza fix, good as ever!
I took the long way back to my place to check out the strip as I rarely get down there.
Its only Monday night, but the street is teaming with chicas, and looks like the good old days, no cops around.
I saw some fantastic looking chicas, if you like young, clear skinned, long legged girls model type with real pretty faces. By my rating lots of 8 9 and 10's Even I was amazed. There definitely was that old time vibe in the air.
As I walked up Clisante I got called over by a buddy that runs one of the joints, and sat and he bought me a beer. I remarked on the number of good looking chicas milling around, like Party Central, and asked what was going on?
He shook his head and mentioned that time of year. As we talked a couple of 10's walked by and even this jaded guy who hires them for living, got them into conversation.
He wanted me to stick around, for more beer but I had a belly full of Bayley's pizza in my gut and needed to walk it off.
Bottom line. If there' s that much action and choice, on a Monday night at 8 pm, Sosua is happening, and to me it offers as much, if not more than it ever did.
I have no hesitation in telling guys (who like the Dominicana / Haitian type) to "Come on down", you won't be disappointed!Just a guess. Could this have anything to do with the impending Christmas holidays? They may be trying to earn some money for presents, celebrations, etc.
Just a guess. Could this have anything to do with the impending Christmas holidays? They may be trying to earn some money for presents, celebrations, etc.Absolutely, but in the bigger picture the high season for Sosua is just getting underway.
Will pobably go to mid April!
Dominicans HATE Haitians and will find any excuse to condemn them. The guy who mudered the girl was Nigerian not Haitian but no need to to let facts get in the way of blaming Haitians. Many of the Haitians I know are very self conscience do to the negative stereo types the have to deal with. The invasion of Haitian Americans of Rio is a serious joke. The Haitian girls can not compete with Rio talent unless they were giving it away. When facts do not fit make up some shit.Here is a good article about Haitians' situation in Dominican republic. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/11/dominican-republic-erased-birthright-citizenship/575527/.
Last night around 8, I walked over to Baleys for my monthly pizza fix, good as ever!
I took the long way back to my place to check out the strip as I rarely get down there.
Its only Monday night, but the street is teaming with chicas, and looks like the good old days, no cops around.
I saw some fantastic looking chicas, if you like young, clear skinned, long legged girls model type with real pretty faces. By my rating lots of 8 9 and 10's Even I was amazed. There definitely was that old time vibe in the air.
As I walked up Clisante I got called over by a buddy that runs one of the joints, and sat and he bought me a beer. I remarked on the number of good looking chicas milling around, like Party Central, and asked what was going on?
He shook his head and mentioned that time of year. As we talked a couple of 10's walked by and even this jaded guy who hires them for living, got them into conversation.Got in town yesterday and it's looking good especially for a Tuesday night which is typically the slowest night of the week. Lots of chicas here trying to get that Christmas cash. Pay whatever you want. It's a buyer's market.
I was hoping to play golf at Playa Dorado about every other day. I only went there once. The course was nice, but the greens were horrible. So much so that I decided not not go back.Thanks for the report. How much are the fees at Playa Dorado? Green fee, cart fee, caddy fee, club rental?
https://dominicantoday.com/dr/opinion/2018/12/03/big-problems-in-sosua/
The town is taking a lot of heat.Interesting. I have not been to Sosua in over a year but I heard about the murder through social media. My understanding is that the guy had an American passport. Reading between the lines of this article, it is almost as if the person really wanted to say African Americans instead of Haitian Americans. I doubt Haitians were sex tourists in Rio LOL. Sosua is still a town where you have tourists with tourists visas running businesses so they have a long way to go as far as their immigration policies and lack of enforcement but perhaps the revenue generated by the overstay fees is enough to maintain the status quo. There obviously has been tension for a number of years and these issues have been discussed here before so I won't rehash them.
Got in town yesterday and it's looking good especially for a Tuesday night which is typically the slowest night of the week. Lots of chicas here trying to get that Christmas cash. Pay whatever you want. It's a buyer's market.This is my favorite time of the year to be in the DR. I don't come here to be a monger. I'm here to support single mothers. Everything else is routine. So many under cover putas come out to throw two legs up 4 the pesos!
I have had pizza all over the world and Baileys is my favotite. 500 pesos and it feeds 3 people. Great eat for a cheap date Along with the women Sosua some really great places to eat. It makes my trips even more enjoyable.
Last night around 8, I walked over to Baleys for my monthly pizza fix, good as ever!
I took the long way back to my place to check out the strip as I rarely get down there.
Its only Monday night, but the street is teaming with chicas, and looks like the good old days, no cops around.
I saw some fantastic looking chicas, if you like young, clear skinned, long legged girls model type with real pretty faces. By my rating lots of 8 9 and 10's Even I was amazed. There definitely was that old time vibe in the air.
As I walked up Clisante I got called over by a buddy that runs one of the joints, and sat and he bought me a beer. I remarked on the number of good looking chicas milling around, like Party Central, and asked what was going on?
He shook his head and mentioned that time of year. As we talked a couple of 10's walked by and even this jaded guy who hires them for living, got them into conversation.
He wanted me to stick around, for more beer but I had a belly full of Bayley's pizza in my gut and needed to walk it off.
Bottom line. If there' s that much action and choice, on a Monday night at 8 pm, Sosua is happening, and to me it offers as much, if not more than it ever did.
I have no hesitation in telling guys (who like the Dominicana / Haitian type) to "Come on down", you won't be disappointed!
I have had pizza all over the world and Baileys is my favotite. 500 pesos and it feeds 3 people. Great eat for a cheap date Along with the women Sosua some really great places to eat. It makes my trips even more enjoyable.Honorable mention to Romano. A little cheaper too. Baileys beer is 175 for pequina.
I know to lock everything up. Nail clippers. Hide the brush. Ear buds. Goddam ***** found them in my hung up pant packet. Now keep in safe.
But had a new one done on me last trip. My contacts and solution. Contacts were disposable monthly. No big deal. But come on girl. Contacts. Didn't realize when they were gone because I also wear glasses. Not that I could have gotten them back.
I probably should not leave out the electric shaver in DR.
I'm leaving tomorrow but want to give a report before I'm gone.
There seems to be plenty of meat on the street. Can't really get around much without being accosted continuously for a massage. I've been here a few times over the past few years and I don't see the deterioration that has been reported in previous posts. Had a nice girl taxi driver last night for 2 K. I don't respond much to the overly aggressive types but that girl was just nice in her approach. Might have bartered down to 1. 5 but wasn't worth the effort and I thought she deserved it anyway.
Sosúa is still great IMHO. Maybe it is just good timing as has been suggested before but suits me.
Rus501.
One my way to Sosua tomorrow from Santo Domingo, any one had any luck with any Venezolanas there in Sosua? I heard there are some in the casa de citas here in the capital but I'the like to get my hands on one in Sosua for some toda la noche action or maybe 2 for for the trio.
SosuaPlaya
12-10-18, 23:00
For a first time monger, would the Sosua veterans suggest Tijuana or Sosua? I like the thicker ladies and it seems like Sosua has my type more so than Tijuana, but Tijuana is much cheaper for me. Is Sosua better for beginners? Vice-versa?
Mr Enternational
12-11-18, 07:26
For a first time monger, would the Sosua veterans suggest Tijuana or Sosua? I like the thicker ladies and it seems like Sosua has my type more so than Tijuana, but Tijuana is much cheaper for me. Is Sosua better for beginners? Vice-versa?Depends on your purpose. You just want to go somewhere that you can stick your dick into holes or do you want to have a vacation? To me Tijuana is nowhere to plan a trip to; it is just somewhere you go for a few hours if you happen to be in San Diego.
Depends on your purpose. You just want to go somewhere that you can stick your dick into holes or do you want to have a vacation? To me Tijuana is nowhere to plan a trip to; it is just somewhere you go for a few hours if you happen to be in San Diego.I'm with Mr Ent. I was in Tijuana last week I think that's the best place for a first time monger it's all right there for you. Sosua is a vacation with plenty pussy around. I couldn't not stay in Tijuana for more than 2 nights and frankly that's all you need. Here I'm the DR is a relaxing vacation with beautiful women all around. Lots of things to do. For example this trip.
I plan on seeing the teleférico in puerta Plata there is nothing like that in Tijuana. Sure you can go to Ensenada or rosorito but it's not the same. If you want to just bang a few latinas quick go to Tijuana, if you looking to chill out, swim, eat good, wiggle your toes in sand and hump some fine latinas come to Sosua.
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