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OldKool
09-11-19, 19:57
Classicos still kicking. Not done yet.

Revere
09-11-19, 22:57
Classicos still kicking. Not done yet.It's over. Plan accordingly.

Questner
09-12-19, 02:52
https://www.facebook.com/Junior.olatv/videos/10157867799813338/

You have to listen what she is saying. Nothing has been done or can be done. The mayoress has no money, no power and will be out of office soon, and I wish her all the best. She may have good intentions in mind. Even acting illegally they can't do shit.

I have said many times that the more is said the less is done, that's how things are in SOS.

Somehow when we read (let's say most of us) read or hear statements, or speeches we tend to accept them at face value. For example, if the mayoress says so and so, we think she actually means it, or has a personal interest or inner intention to follow through or has an agenda or a plan. Indeed? It may be just expedient or viewed nicely in the eyes of her bosses or constituents. Ok, there is a meeting, bla-bla-bla, water and cookies served. When the meeting on this particular topic is held it does not necessarily mean all the participants and organizers are genuinely behind the idea.

Revere
09-12-19, 14:54
https://www.facebook.com/Junior.olatv/videos/10157867799813338/

You have to listen what she is saying. Nothing has been done or can be done. The mayoress has no money, no power and will be out of office soon, and I wish her all the best. She may have good intentions in mind. Even acting illegally they can't do shit.

I have said many times that the more is said the less is done, that's how things are in SOS.

Somehow when we read (let's say most of us) read or hear statements, or speeches we tend to accept them at face value. For example, if the mayoress says so and so, we think she actually means it, or has a personal interest or inner intention to follow through or has an agenda or a plan. Indeed? It may be just expedient or viewed nicely in the eyes of her bosses or constituents. Ok, there is a meeting, bla-bla-bla, water and cookies served. When the meeting on this particular topic is held it does not necessarily mean all the participants and organizers are genuinely behind the idea.Stop through last weekend. I had a drink at bourbon during the day. Streets empty with zero action and two women police standing out in front of bourbon. Never seen it controlled like that. Did not appear to just be talk, but action. Classico was crowded at night, but quality way down. What am I missing.

NightWhaler
09-12-19, 20:07
Stop through last weekend. I had a drink at bourbon during the day. Streets empty with zero action and two women police standing out in front of bourbon. Never seen it controlled like that. Did not appear to just be talk, but action. Classico was crowded at night, but quality way down. What am I missing.The absolute worst months to visit Sosua (if there is one) are August and September. These are the slowest moths of the year. Last couple of years they really use this period to flex their muscles. Come November the streets will be back to normal and police will slack off and let that holiday money start flowing again.

Oakie
09-12-19, 21:25
Stop through last weekend. I had a drink at bourbon during the day. Streets empty with zero action and two women police standing out in front of bourbon. Never seen it controlled like that. Did not appear to just be talk, but action. Classico was crowded at night, but quality way down. What am I missing.Could I respectfully suggest that in the Low season, and Sosua's slowest month of the year, and an empty street, you'd notice the two cops standing there?

In the High season, before Christmas and the Superbowl, the streets and bars are crowded, and the streets are crawling with cops, but you don't really notice them.

Revere
09-13-19, 00:16
Could I respectfully suggest that in the Low season, and Sosua's slowest month of the year, and an empty street, you'd notice the two cops standing there?

In the High season, before Christmas and the Superbowl, the streets and bars are crowded, and the streets are crawling with cops, but you don't really notice them.I have been going for years and never seen streets so deserted and chicks so afraid to come. This might explain it. We always talked about cruise ship passengers that never came, but how will Pedro fit in with putas and these new hotels:

https://dominicantoday.com/dr/north-coast/2019/09/12/coming-to-sosua-3-high-end-hotels-of-us350m-2000-jobs/

GrownMan1
09-13-19, 02:51
The absolute worst months to visit Sosua (if there is one) are August and September. These are the slowest moths of the year. Last couple of years they really use this period to flex their muscles. Come November the streets will be back to normal and police will slack off and let that holiday money start flowing again.I was in the zoo in August only because it was my boys birthday weekend. Despite fumbles and basically no street activity, the Sue did what she was supposed to do. The guys enjoyed the time.

I'm currently in the DR, however I'm going to give the Sue a break. IMHO you are right this is low activity time. The city needs to feel a financial strain, then they will be ready to deal or not deal with situation at hand.

OldKool
09-13-19, 02:56
I have been going for 8 years high and low. I was on ground 2 weeks ago. This is totally different. They are enforceing a zero tolerance policy. No chicas on the street during day light ours. This not normal low season. While the mayor has little power she does have the ear of the police and military. These fascist do not play. I am not a doom and gloom guy. However the changes are serious. When they break things it is hard to put them back. The locals seem to think the sky is falling.

DriveAllNight
09-13-19, 03:24
I'm sure I'm not the only BM who scarfs wings at Flip Flop restaurant in Sosua. Here's what the owner wrote earlier today:

CLOSED for Business. The end of Sosua.

On: Today at 09:09:08 AM.

Now that I have your attention.

Is there a retard virus spreading in the US? You guys are utterly ridiculous. Sosua is not closing and your "Reliable" Sources of Hooker, drug dealers and motoconchos don't know shit.

First the Meeting.

- This meeting was conducted because the mayor wanted to notify everyone that once she made the Call about the move. Only one business signed the paperwork to move. Basically the others said "Fuck off".

She was asking for an agreement and resolution.

The reality is she can't legally do anything but she wants to. IMO, She probably owns that plaza that is still not built and wants a money run.

If you pay any attention, the only places mentioned are Flow, Rumba and Classico. The places WE like. If the strip closes tomorrow there will be a super campaign to get your boo at the plaza. So please use common sense.

The worst part about this entire thing is WE are the ones spreading it. It seems like you want Sosua to die. Us and Only US are spreading this fear that shit is changing.

And guys are canceling due to what their peoples are telling them.

A good friend of mine, said just like this on Sunday -.

No Hookers, No moto, My Man is in front of classico right now and it is closed. Done. I read the message and sent him a video of the 10 k bottle of Grey Goose I was drinking while partying at the exact moment he sent the message.

Monday I was told Merengue is closed and I was sitting at the bar.

Like WTF. If your not here then shut up. And stop listening to the streets. Chics saying shit bad while they twerking in the club.

My frustration is from the Million and one messages and text when I am actually outside. I kind of want the shit to close so all of you can be happy and we can move on.

Nothing is closing. If you think city hall is sharing info with hookers and motos then your an idiot. NO ONE knows because city hall still has no plan.

They are rounding girls up "sometimes" to give a sense of power.

You guys made gave popeyes 30 millions dollars for a damn chicken sandwich and your putting that same energy into killing sosua.

Sosua is only dying in your tex messages, whatsapp groups and facebook groups.

Nothing is closing, No business men in Sosua are worried. No one has any secret info about closures because it does not exist.

8 years and I have been right. You guys with the fear crap are killing the town. Meanwhile everyone who is here is having a ball. The lies are killing me because someone always got a friend here but I can't never find them.

I'm blowing my bread hanging out and being told shit is closed.

Cancel ya damn trip.

This is actually becoming pathetic how we spread rumors like old ladies in church. Not one source on the street, or anywhere has any info.

Because city hall has no direct plan. 8 years she been wanting shit moved. 8 years its till going and even stronger now (High season returns).

We went from a serial killer in resorts to the strip. You guys with the rumors and you guys alone are killing this place. I have been out 7 days straight and shit been like the old days.

Tuesday was real slow but its Tuesday- Merengue was still packed.

When the shit finally closes as most of you seem to want, I will advise ASAP so you can be happy.

That is all.

Exoboy
09-13-19, 05:02
I'm sure I'm not the only BM who scarfs wings at Flip Flop restaurant in Sosua. Here's what the owner wrote earlier today:

That is all.New guy here. Was planning a trip down to Sosua since I can't remember for this fall.

A few weeks ago, I though I had missed out of my luck reading that September and October were usually slow months and that on top of that, the city was putting strict regulation on the sex scene down there.

In doubt, I even cancelled my plane flight and thought I'd try another place instead.

Now with the last message stating this it's all in people's head and nothing's happening. I'm in serious doubt about who to believe at this point.

Questner
09-13-19, 06:19
Exactly, words of wisdom from FF. By the way, no hotels are coming; these rumours resurface once in two-four years and then disappear.

Turgid
09-13-19, 14:36
I have been going for 8 years high and low. I was on ground 2 weeks ago. This is totally different. They are enforceing a zero tolerance policy. No chicas on the street during day light ours. This not normal low season. While the mayor has little power she does have the ear of the police and military. These fascist do not play. I am not a doom and gloom guy. However the changes are serious. When they break things it is hard to put them back. The locals seem to think the sky is falling.Ok, lets hear what the reports are like November / December. I'll finally make up my mind then for my January / February trip - the Sue or Montreal.

Oakie
09-13-19, 16:52
I have been going for 8 years high and low. I was on ground 2 weeks ago. This is totally different. They are enforceing a zero tolerance policy. No chicas on the street during day light ours. This not normal low season. While the mayor has little power she does have the ear of the police and military. These fascist do not play. I am not a doom and gloom guy. However the changes are serious. When they break things it is hard to put them back. The locals seem to think the sky is falling.Relax OK.

You can still get all the cheap beautiful young fresh pussy you want in Sosua!

It will remain so as long as freelance prostitution is legal.

Only if they make solicitation illegal, or the cops start hassling clients, will it really change. I'm here and I don't see that happening! CESTOUR is still waving at the mongers.

It's always been hit and miss for the average casual monger, depending on time of day, day of week, and month of year!

The High Season, November to through March will be a better indicator of what's going on, not hurricane season!

Has it changed? What hasn't in the last 10 years? LOL.

NightWhaler
09-13-19, 20:08
Dominican Today is running an article regarding the North Coast new development of 3 new high end hotels slated for Sosua with a US $350 million investment creating 2000 new jobs. You can check it out on "Dominicantoday.com". They are talking about a new W Hotel, The Ritz Carlton Reserve, and The Luxury Collection. These are the new hotels that will be built under that investment. Of course it remains to be seen if in fact it will come to pass. This might be one reason the Cestur is harassing the the local folks on the street. Prostitution is LEGAL, so why do they hassle the girls? Your guess is as good as mine.

Sosua is what it is and I have been going for years and still do and plan to continue to do so. There are slow seasons and high seasons but you can always find what you are looking for no matter what time of year it is. Some days are just better than others. What they fail to realize is that we are the financial backbone of that town. Are they trying to send us a message? I wonder what the real strategy is and what they want to happen. Looks to me like they are sending a message to stay away. But the chicas are resilient and won't stop the business anytime soon in my opinion. But for sure come November the streets will be packed as their Christmas season begins and the tourist head back to Sosua to beat the cold.

Take care my brothers and don't worry to much about these crackdowns. FYI, this article is on Youtube by the "Educated Traveler" if you care to search it out. They are stifling tourism.

Peace,

Mr Enternational
09-13-19, 20:35
Dominican Today is running an article regarding the North Coast new development of 3 new high end hotels slated for Sosua with a US $350 million investment creating 2000 new jobs. You can check it out on "Dominicantoday.com". They are talking about a new W Hotel, The Ritz Carlton Reserve, and The Luxury Collection.In the comments someone was saying that was a rumor about Cabarete, not Sosua. I seriously doubt the veracity of any of that. Those smart companies are not going to build shit in the middle of nowhere that hardly anybody goes. Besides that, where would they even put them? You think one of these brands would even build a kiosk on Pedro Clisante? Somebody was even talking about the empty frames overgrown with weeds of places that thought they were going to build things there in days past. Any smart normal tourist is going to be on the east coast; the north is a has been.

Revere
09-13-19, 23:36
I just try to give you real information. Classico officially closed down today. I know people keep saying business as usual, but it is not. Make your calls. I will not spread false rumors.

NightWhaler
09-14-19, 01:19
Well fellows just got some word from a brother on the ground that Classicos has closed. The owner decided to do it himself for whatever reasons I do not know. I just got a message saying that he voluntarily closed both upstairs and Merrange Bar to avoid harassment. It was opened last night but today it is closed. I do have any other conformation of whether this true or not so I am reaching to you brothers to confirm that this is truly the case. Everything else is opened except for that. So if anyone is on the ground please send us the latest update to confirm this is what is happening or just another rumor. Crazy!

Peace,

Manizales911
09-14-19, 02:03
Well fellows just got some word from a brother on the ground that Classicos has closed. The owner decided to do it himself for whatever reasons I do not know. I just got a message saying that he voluntarily closed both upstairs and Merrange Bar to avoid harassment. It was opened last night but today it is closed. I do have any other conformation of whether this true or not so I am reaching to you brothers to confirm that this is truly the case. Everything else is opened except for that. So if anyone is on the ground please send us the latest update to confirm this is what is happening or just another rumor. Crazy!

Peace,I am standing outside right now, closed.

Manizales911
09-14-19, 02:26
Bars are jam packed, not one single girl walking the beat, not one. Cops are fucking everywhere. Thank god for my Puerto Plata girlies via Facebook. Doesn't change my life one bit, my dance card is full.

Questner
09-14-19, 04:39
Right, The Ritz in Sos, what kind of dope is that; these tales resurface once in couple years.

Manizales911
09-14-19, 05:04
Right, The Ritz in Sos, what kind of dope is that; these tales resurface once in couple years.The Ritz is going to be at La Boca in Cabarete. The Gansevoort is currently being renovated and is going to be another one of the Marriott high end Hotels. The third hotel is another renovation of a closed property in Cabarete, the name escapes me. Google it. Questner these aren't rumor, these projects were announced by Marriott themselves, its happening. And these are all 200-800 dollar a night rooms, again Google it if you don't believe me.

Tempoecorto
09-14-19, 05:09
I have been going to Sosua since 2011 and it has changed somewhat as I saw in August this year, with few women on the prowl and I mentioned even a policewoman chasing a poor girl trying to hide inside a store. The fact of the matter is that, for me, it changes nothing. I still find the place interesting with its small footprint, expat population and accordingly, good restaurants. The women? They all come to you. So whoever is reading this, especially the US crowd who seem to be more into story telling or wondering, can plan ahead and, what with google translate, it is a no-brainer even for the language challenged. The sky is not falling!

P.S: I will back there for another weekend, hopefully soon and then there is Christmas time amid warm weather.

MikeM488
09-14-19, 05:10
In Sosua next weekend for 10 days. Not changing my plans. Screw the mayor, Been going since 2011. Use to find skinny good looking girls at 1:30 to 2 am. Between 2011-2014 in Classico. But times have change. You just have to make adjustments. The girls will find us. They need the money.

I go to Angeles 120 days a year. Use to be cheap 10-20 years ago. The usual guy would stay two weeks. Now its like two or three days. Not cheap anymore because the Korean can fly down for the weekend and don't care what they pay. Its like Southern California guys spending all their money in Vegas. I have made my adjustments. Current barfine (no negotiation, flat rate in bar) it is 3000-3500 p (52 to the dollar). Plus 500 p tip plus they want one or two drinks at 300 p per drink. It like 4000 p total $80 US and you have a 50/50 chance of short time. I made my adjustments. 1500 p out of the disco (tip is 100 p for trike) and 1200 plus tip (300 to 500) out of three short time bars. Trips are 30 days and I end up with around 30 different girls. Girls I get are sevens. Made my adjustments why the tourist and Korean pay the top prices. Plus some of the star? Girls want 4000 p instead of 3500 p.

Casinos?? City Lights? Beach??Eating places the girl go to?? Adjustments and adapting in Sosua.

Xpartan
09-14-19, 05:51
The Ritz is going to be at La Boca in Cabarete. The Gansevoort is currently being renovated and is going to be another one of the Marriott high end Hotels. The third hotel is another renovation of a closed property in Cabarete, the name escapes me. Google it. Questner these aren't rumor, these projects were announced by Marriott themselves, its happening. And these are all 200-800 dollar a night rooms, again Google it if you don't believe me.Instead, found nothing more than internet rumors here and there, but I'll eat crow if I'and wrong. However, if I'm not wrong, rumors happen for a reason. Someone wants to convince someone else that something is more valuable than it is and that something big is about to unfold. If you've read Jack London you know what might happen next. It's gold, baby! LOL!

Seriously, Marriott would have to lose more than a few screws to open their top luxury hotel in the town of Cabaret or anywhere on the North Coast for that matter. It's just pure insanity. Moxy maybe.

Xpartan
09-14-19, 06:01
Well fellows just got some word from a brother on the ground that Classicos has closed. The owner decided to do it himself for whatever reasons I do not know. I just got a message saying that he voluntarily closed both upstairs and Merrange Bar to avoid harassment. It was opened last night but today it is closed. I do have any other conformation of whether this true or not so I am reaching to you brothers to confirm that this is truly the case. Everything else is opened except for that. What everything else? LOL!

If the streets are dead, and Classico / Merengue is dead, there is nothing else anymore, is there?

City Lights?

Fun times.

Mr Enternational
09-14-19, 11:15
I go to Angeles 120 days a year. Use to be cheap 10-20 years ago. The usual guy would stay two weeks. Now its like two or three days. Not cheap anymore because the Korean can fly down for the weekend and don't care what they pay. Its like Southern California guys spending all their money in Vegas.No. It is actually like the east coast American guys have done in Sosua!

Ukman57
09-14-19, 12:38
Dominican Today is running an article regarding the North Coast new development of 3 new high end hotels slated for Sosua with a US $350 million investment creating 2000 new jobs. You can check it out on "Dominicantoday.com". They are talking about a new W Hotel, The Ritz Carlton Reserve, and The Luxury Collection. These are the new hotels that will be built under that investment. Of course it remains to be seen if in fact it will come to pass. This might be one reason the Cestur is harassing the the local folks on the street. Prostitution is LEGAL, so why do they hassle the girls? Your guess is as good as mine.

Sosua is what it is and I have been going for years and still do and plan to continue to do so. There are slow seasons and high seasons but you can always find what you are looking for no matter what time of year it is. Some days are just better than others. What they fail to realize is that we are the financial backbone of that town. Are they trying to send us a message? I wonder what the real strategy is and what they want to happen. Looks to me like they are sending a message to stay away. But the chicas are resilient and won't stop the business anytime soon in my opinion. But for sure come November the streets will be packed as their Christmas season begins and the tourist head back to Sosua to beat the cold.Anybody in their right mind who researches Sosua as a mongering destination is going to be put off going because of the crackdown going on there.

Wrx2005
09-14-19, 13:02
Classico closed down per presidential order.Whatever happened to THIS report that you provided a few days ago? Where did that information come from? Clearly that info is suspect. In subsequent days / nights after that presidential order, guys were reporting that both places were open. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Willie voluntarily close both of them today or yesterday? Which is it? Presidential order or voluntary?

Manizales911
09-14-19, 14:17
Instead, found nothing more than internet rumors here and there, but I'll eat crow if I'and wrong. However, if I'm not wrong, rumors happen for a reason. Someone wants to convince someone else that something is more valuable than it is and that something big is about to unfold. If you've read Jack London you know what might happen next. It's gold, baby! LOL!

Seriously, Marriott would have to lose more than a few screws to open their top luxury hotel in the town of Cabaret or anywhere on the North Coast for that matter. It's just pure insanity. Moxy maybe.Direct from El Presidente's website:

https://presidencia.gob.do/noticias/inversionistas-presentan-al-presidente-danilo-medina-proyecto-de-turismo-de-lujo-en-puerto?fbclid=IwAR2Yb6jcItkKpsZqGWPVp0ExWqWEC-6c7w9QhNRgoQtCUmPG2dYT4Yq0jsk

OldKool
09-14-19, 14:55
I was told this was coming and the video of the mayors meeting with brass was real. She was very confident. This a slap in the face of the brothers. The place supplied girls music and drinks we liked. This is where the weekend warriors posted. Most of these guys speak no spanish and have very little game because they did not need to develope it. The businesses that we supported will suffer greatly. SU aint dead but she is on life support. I see nothing filling the void. Baileys and all those eating spots are going to die very soon. I will be on the ground in 2 weeks but I may spend more time in SD with my regulars. The last time Classicos closed De latins opened we did not miss a beat. A bussiness owner informed me that everything else was open but Classicos. At the end of the day we only see the tip of the iceberg, There are movers and shakers pulling the string and we aint them. All we can do is wait and see what fills the vacum. Action could move to Puerto Plata or Caberetti

Turgid
09-14-19, 14:59
Dominican Today is running an article regarding the North Coast new development of 3 new high end hotels slated for Sosua with a US $350 million investment creating 2000 new jobs. ............Different jobs for our girlfriends?

Turgid
09-14-19, 15:03
In Sosua next weekend for 10 days. Not changing my plans. Screw the mayor, Been going since 2011. Use to find skinny good looking girls at 1:30 to 2 am. Between 2011-2014 in Classico. But times have change. You just have to make adjustments. The girls will find us. They need the money.

I go to Angeles 120 days a year. Use to be cheap 10-20 years ago. The usual guy would stay two weeks. Now its like two or three days. Not cheap anymore because the Korean can fly down for the weekend and don't care what they pay. Its like Southern California guys spending all their money in Vegas. I have made my adjustments. Current barfine (no negotiation, flat rate in bar) it is 3000-3500 p (52 to the dollar). Plus 500 p tip plus they want one or two drinks at 300 p per drink. It like 4000 p total $80 US and you have a 50/50 chance of short time. I made my adjustments. 1500 p out of the disco (tip is 100 p for trike) and 1200 plus tip (300 to 500) out of three short time bars. Trips are 30 days and I end up with around 30 different girls. Girls I get are sevens. Made my adjustments why the tourist and Korean pay the top prices. Plus some of the star? Girls want 4000 p instead of 3500 p.

Casinos?? City Lights? Beach??Eating places the girl go to?? Adjustments and adapting in Sosua.Check all reports on ISG, P4P is declining all over the world. The only exception is the USA. Adjust accordingly.

Revere
09-14-19, 15:29
Whatever happened to THIS report that you provided a few days ago? Where did that information come from? Clearly that info is suspect. In subsequent days / nights after that presidential order, guys were reporting that both places were open. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Willie voluntarily close both of them today or yesterday? Which is it? Presidential order or voluntary?Nothing suspect went to the top. Look at when I said classico was being shut down and all the commentary of why it would not happen. Now do you really believe out of the blue classico closes down voluntarily. You believe that you fall for anything. Your information is suspect that it closed down on its own.

Mr Enternational
09-14-19, 15:37
Direct from El Presidente's website:

https://presidencia.gob.do/noticias/inversionistas-presentan-al-presidente-danilo-medina-proyecto-de-turismo-de-lujo-en-puerto?fbclid=IwAR2Yb6jcItkKpsZqGWPVp0ExWqWEC-6c7w9QhNRgoQtCUmPG2dYT4Yq0jsk"Aqui podemos transformar completamente la costa norte, como un destino de lujo y estamos contentos".

LOL. Now that I will believe when I see. So many sprawling luxury resorts out east where it is also cheaper to fly to. Nobody is trying to go to a cooped up hotel along a two-lane DR-5 no matter how luxurious it is.

Revere
09-14-19, 15:41
Whatever happened to THIS report that you provided a few days ago? Where did that information come from? Clearly that info is suspect. In subsequent days / nights after that presidential order, guys were reporting that both places were open. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Willie voluntarily close both of them today or yesterday? Which is it? Presidential order or voluntary?Obvious I had news that you did not know and it was not fake. Go back and look at my time line. Now, on Froday one of classico's busiest nights that would shut down voluntarily. That makes sense to you that is was there decision. Let it go.

Charles Pooter
09-14-19, 17:13
Action could move to Puerto Plata ...Yeah! Great, ain't it?

Mr Enternational
09-14-19, 17:56
I will be on the ground in 2 weeks but I may spend more time in SD with my regulars.They said they are expecting you to step your game up this time Old Kool. They are tired of those 4th-hand vibrators you have been giving out.

OldKool
09-14-19, 18:36
Stepped my game up. I now use a majic wand product from amazon. The reviews have been very good. The casino near Dulce Secreto has a very nice disco. Rumbas and Bourbon st could benefit from thse changes. Both are in compliance being restaurants and coincidetially Afro American owned and like wise Envie is in a good location for the futur.


They said they are expecting you to step your game up this time Old Kool. They are tired of those 4th-hand vibrators you have been giving out.

Brother P
09-14-19, 18:47
In Sosua next weekend for 10 days. Not changing my plans. Screw the mayor, Been going since 2011. Use to find skinny good looking girls at 1:30 to 2 am. Between 2011-2014 in Classico. But times have change. You just have to make adjustments. The girls will find us. They need the money.

I go to Angeles 120 days a year. Use to be cheap 10-20 years ago. The usual guy would stay two weeks. Now its like two or three days. Not cheap anymore because the Korean can fly down for the weekend and don't care what they pay. Its like Southern California guys spending all their money in Vegas. I have made my adjustments. Current barfine (no negotiation, flat rate in bar) it is 3000-3500 p (52 to the dollar). Plus 500 p tip plus they want one or two drinks at 300 p per drink. It like 4000 p total $80 US and you have a 50/50 chance of short time. I made my adjustments. 1500 p out of the disco (tip is 100 p for trike) and 1200 plus tip (300 to 500) out of three short time bars. Trips are 30 days and I end up with around 30 different girls. Girls I get are sevens. Made my adjustments why the tourist and Korean pay the top prices. Plus some of the star? Girls want 4000 p instead of 3500 p.

Casinos?? City Lights? Beach??Eating places the girl go to?? Adjustments and adapting in Sosua.Facts! I'll be down in two weeks and I'm not worried. I've built a pretty nice WhatsApp team. Many on the north coast. I've already have chicas lined up. It may be a little boring, but I won't lack for chicas. The writing has been on the wall for a couple of years that change was coming. My espanol is decent, which helps.

As far as the game moving, it may. I'm sure you'll see more chicas in Puerto Plata and caberete. But in my opinion the overall theme is they want it low key. So if bourbon st or rumba gets to busy their probably going to feel the heat. Build your contacts gentlemen!

I've been seeing more and more families and non mongers the last 2 years or so. But not in the numbers they want. Point is the north coast was a cheap trip, with snowbirds on a budget who put money into the economy. We were the icing on the cake. I really don't think they can turn into punta cana, but apparently they do. I'll be good either way! Peace and happy travels to all!

Revere
09-14-19, 23:29
Negotiations have been going on since yesterday to reopen classico. We will see what happens.

OldKool
09-15-19, 01:05
Just got taxt that Classicos is open toight.


Negotiations have been going on since yesterday to reopen classico. We will see what happens.

Questner
09-15-19, 02:42
The Ritz is going to be at La Boca in Cabarete. The Gansevoort is currently being renovated and is going to be another one of the Marriott high end Hotels. The third hotel is another renovation of a closed property in Cabarete, the name escapes me. Google it. Questner these aren't rumor, these projects were announced by Marriott themselves, its happening. And these are all 200-800 dollar a night rooms, again Google it if you don't believe me.We shall see. The more rooms the more hookers in town.

Questner
09-15-19, 02:42
Negotiations have been going on since yesterday to reopen classico. We will see what happens.Yeah, cash bids only, LOL.

Manizales911
09-15-19, 04:17
Just got taxt that Classicos is open toight.They are open, I just drove by.

MikeM488
09-15-19, 04:59
Just a guess. Since the mayor wants the bars moved. The owner keep the downstairs bar closed and he open Classico. Since you basically cannot see into Classico from the street. But only a guess.

Since Classico open. Did the bar down below open.

Xpartan
09-15-19, 06:25
Direct from El Presidente's website:

https://presidencia.gob.do/noticias/inversionistas-presentan-al-presidente-danilo-medina-proyecto-de-turismo-de-lujo-en-puerto?fbclid=IwAR2Yb6jcItkKpsZqGWPVp0ExWqWEC-6c7w9QhNRgoQtCUmPG2dYT4Yq0jskLook, no problem, I'll eat crow as I promised if it doesn't fail to materialize. The reason why I don't think it will materialize is that I've seen Cabaret. And I'm sure you have too. I mean, even after 3-4 Cuba Libres, even if you close your eyes and let your imagination run wild, you won't see that place attracting the kind of crowd Marriott would want for its top brands. Also, I haven't found anything about Cabaret or DR's North Coast for that matter in Marriott's own press releases. Bloomberg reports Marriott's plans for Punta Cana -- again, not a word about Cabaret or Puerto Plata. I don't know, I guess, we'll see. Really, who cares, though.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-05/marriott-jumps-into-all-inclusive-resorts-with-ritz-carlton-deal

Oakie
09-15-19, 09:48
I have been going to Sosua since 2011 and it has changed somewhat as I saw in August this year, with few women on the prowl and I mentioned even a policewoman chasing a poor girl trying to hide inside a store. The fact of the matter is that, for me, it changes nothing. I still find the place interesting with its small footprint, expat population and accordingly, good restaurants. The women? They all come to you. So whoever is reading this, especially the US crowd who seem to be more into story telling or wondering, can plan ahead and, what with google translate, it is a no-brainer even for the language challenged. The sky is not falling!

P.S: I will back there for another weekend, hopefully soon and then there is Christmas time amid warm weather.C'mon down The sky hasn't fell yet!

Sosua has always been a PR problem for the local officials who are charged with public safety and law and order.

Sosua main street at night is basically an unregulated brothel, where on a busy night a tourist can't even walk down Pedro without been accosted, swarmed and even physically groped by hard core hookers. Unlicensed motoconchos ignore basic traffic rules and are a continual public safety hazard. Not many places in the world where this state of affairs is tolerated on it's main street.

This has made Sosua notorious as a sex destination attracting hordes of mongers and their money. The reality is that the whole town depends on this business to keep the hotels rooms and restaurants filled.

To some like me, the lack of regulation is a refreshing change from the nanny states I have lived in. Aside from all the available women, a visitor can enjoy a smoke with his coffee or beer, buy fresh home cooked street food from the locals or the guy with an oil drum BBQ on the empty lot across the street, or hop a moto to the supermarket for a buck.

But there has to be some controls and so they do what they can to satisfy everybody.

They see the solution, not as banning prostitution, but trying to decentralize it.

There are a still quite a few fairly large bars up the side streets that were once thriving, but are now derelict because they couldn't compete with Classico, Rumba and D'Latin. So it seems feasible to move the red light action away from main street.

Ahmvi is doing well, still has party nights and monger pool parties away from the in your face street action, and some of the outer bars and restaurants are doing ok.

The changes will affect some mongers who like to get a cheap hotel room, buy cheap beer from the colmado, and pluck a cheap hooker from the street, but meeting a well dressed and well behaved chica in a bar, maybe a little music and dancing, might bring a little more of that old time traditional romance back to the scene.

Just my two cents!

Bliadun
09-15-19, 11:29
Google search did not help.



Ahmvi is doing well, still has party nights and monger pool parties away from the in your face street action, and some of the outer bars and restaurants are doing ok.

Mr Enternational
09-15-19, 12:03
Google search did not help.http://www.ahnveeresort.com/

Bliadun
09-15-19, 12:43
Prices are on par with BB. Do they have chicas on site or this is only a chica friendly hotel? What are the pool parties like? Do they have something like a bikini contest?


http://www.ahnveeresort.com/

Oakie
09-15-19, 13:03
Prices are on par with BB. Do they have chicas on site or this is only a chica friendly hotel? What are the pool parties like? Do they have something like a bikini contest?No BB, that's for sure, it's a 3 star all inclusive newer hotel. I understand you can bring in a guest for the day and only pay for what she eats and drinks!

Never stayed there but been over there for their Superbowl party and a couple of afternoons as a guest. No official bikini contests, but the pool BBQ parties are loud and fun, with a lot of local chicas showing their wares. I did get propositioned and was tempted, but I had no room there.

YMMV.

Chris Bigdog
09-15-19, 15:33
Booked ticket Tuesday morning of this week; flew down Jet Blue Thursday am; back Sat pm. JB systems down in POP so literally waited for 2 hours on line to check in back to JFK. Bummer!

I was pleasantly surprised by the number and variety of girls. I went down thinking it would be be somewhat lame, but that wasn't the case. Never made in to the beach, the gym or even beyond a 3 block radius of Rumba (now rebranded King's).

I can't speak to late night activities because I was nestled in bed with my choice for the evening by 10:30 both nights.

4 girls in 2 days; one a Dominican massage girl across the street from Casa Valeria (where I stayed in a very nice, clean ground level room overlooking the pool - 2 nights including breakfast for $150).

2nd girl a 5'10 gorgeous 1/2 Haïtian 1/2 Dominican stunner named Carmen with an initially good attitude. I would have happily wife'the up with her, but you guys know the drill; afternoon get together become a quickie bc she needs to go do that this or the other. Complete opposite of Kenya where getting them to leave is the challenge.

She had great head game BTW.

3rd a petite Dominican with great pert boobs; typical commercial sex; pleasant but rough hand job to try and warm me up with a bored look on her face. Softer baby softer!

4th and final was a Haïtian girl a month in town. Slim and fit with gigantic boobs, but the bra concealed the baby damage. BF left her in the 7th month of her pregnancy 😬. Too bad she didn't go formula for my selfish needs! Ha!

She spoke no English at all. But was all over me in a sweet way from the word go at Bar Central. Haïtians are just sweeter and more affectionate than Dominicans; She didn't disappoint in the room either, biggest wet spot I've seen, a throughly drenched, soaked 2 x 4 feet. Lovely! But such an innocent; wanted me to meet her brother and sister in Puerto Plata the next day; through google translate wrote about how I could be with her going forward. Clearly she was looking to be 'saved' - my motivations were much simple; more carnal and certainly didn't involve meeting her family. I was overly generous with her; mostly out of guilt and because I won't miss the 4500 pesos (spare me about destroying in market) - it might mean helping her baby that much more.

So that's it fellas. The view at Kings at 6 pm Friday night was mind blowing; girls of all shapes and sizes. Obesity has made its way to the DR but that's not slowing these girls down; flaunted big T&A all over the place! More hard core ones that I like, but let's face it, that's how it's been for the 10+ years. Sosua isn't for the sweet girl; it's to sport fuck.

Bliadun
09-15-19, 16:22
I will plan a visit to this hotel. Their room with mini pool gave me some ideas to try with a couple of chicas LOL.


No BB, that's for sure, it's a 3 star all inclusive newer hotel. I understand you can bring in a guest for the day and only pay for what she eats and drinks!

Never stayed there but been over there for their Superbowl party and a couple of afternoons as a guest. No official bikini contests, but the pool BBQ parties are loud and fun, with a lot of local chicas showing their wares. I did get propositioned and was tempted, but I had no room there.

YMMV.

Mr Enternational
09-15-19, 16:42
I will plan a visit to this hotel. Their room with mini pool gave me some ideas to try with a couple of chicas LOL.You might want to rethink that. If you read back you will see that a lot of Dominicans and Haitians are not as willing to go into the water as you may think they are.

Sammon
09-15-19, 16:48
I will plan a visit to this hotel. Their room with mini pool gave me some ideas to try with a couple of chicas LOL.Rooms in this ahnee resort is close to $200 per night. At that rate it better be girl or girls friendly. Last time I drove inside there to check it out. There were few western couples staying there. Not sure if they will allow open cajoling. It certainly did not seem like a brothel compared to Blackbeards.

Booked a vacation for Veterans Day weekend. Hopefully things would have settled down by then regarding bars and chicas. I usually rent a car and not restricted to Sosua. I can get girls from Puerto Plata if things are tough in Sosua.

Bliadun
09-15-19, 16:54
They only care about not getting their hairs wet. Underwater BJ could be an issue.


You might want to rethink that. If you read back you will see that a lot of Dominicans and Haitians are not as willing to go into the water as you may think they are.

Bliadun
09-15-19, 16:57
Starts from US $65. Maybe taxes would be added later.


Rooms in this ahnee resort is close to $200 per night. At that rate it better be girl or girls friendly. Last time I drove inside there to check it out. There were few western couples staying there. Not sure if they will allow open cajoling. It certainly did not seem like a brothel compared to Blackbeards.

Booked a vacation for Veterans Day weekend. Hopefully things would have settled down by then regarding bars and chicas. I usually rent a car and not restricted to Sosua. I can get girls from Puerto Plata if things are tough in Sosua.

Oakie
09-15-19, 20:34
Starts from US $65. Maybe taxes would be added later.That's the going rate for a decent room, (they have no beach, otherwise it would be a 4 star) . But they have 3 kinds of suites, and they may try to upsell you to a bigger room. But its all good value.

All the times I was there the place was full of mongers and their chicas, and big families of partying Dominicans.

And yes most Dominicanas love the water, the pools and the beaches. The exception is the short time hooker, who might not even want to get completely undressed for a ST session! LOL.

Good luck!

Sammon
09-15-19, 23:28
Starts from US $65. Maybe taxes would be added later.For some reason it says $195 all inclusive. But on Agoda I just booked for three nights executive suite for $170 November. This price includes breakfasts. I had booked at Alicia hotel but they sent me a e mail saying they need to cancel. I guess they are closing for good.

Hope Ahnee resort is still open on my dates. Not much worried about Chicas. I can get them from anywhere because I will have a rental car.

Wrx2005
09-16-19, 12:43
Nothing suspect went to the top. Look at when I said classico was being shut down and all the commentary of why it would not happen. Now do you really believe out of the blue classico closes down voluntarily. You believe that you fall for anything. Your information is suspect that it closed down on its own.Sir, I quoted what you wrote. You said Classico closed down by presidential order. Not that it was being shut down. Closed and being shutdown is two different things. One is the present, the other presumes at some future time. Subsequently, you posted something else. A direct contradiction with each other. Thats why I asked, what happened to the presidential order that was enforced to close Classico? Do you know or you don't know? If a presidential order was enforced what did the owners need to do to lift the closing order?

Tempoecorto
09-18-19, 22:55
To some like me, the lack of regulation is a refreshing change from the nanny states I have lived in. Aside from all the available women, a visitor can enjoy a smoke with his coffee or beer, buy fresh home cooked street food from the locals or the guy with an oil drum BBQ on the empty lot across the street, or hop a moto to the supermarket for a buck.

There are a still quite a few fairly large bars up the side streets that were once thriving, but are now derelict because they couldn't compete with Classico, Rumba and D'Latin. So it seems feasible to move the red light action away from main street.I like you, find it refreshing, not to speak of smoking a cigar after an expresso. I have walked the street at the end of a meal hundreds of times and rarely have I been accosted even though definitely propositioned which can be answered with a simple " No Gracias" - at least I did. I also would like to remind you of places like the Patpong in Bangkok or the Reeparbahn, in Hamburg which are much more raucous etc.

Sosua has built its name not on family tourism that I know of but now, US and puritan money perhaps is trying to have the Dominicans sit up and wonder if they can have the Benjamins by "cleaning up". Shame they are too puny, unlike the Germans and the Dutch to say "no".

Enough of speculation because the fact is, I do not have access to any plan and I, personally do not care, as long as the island remains unchanged. Hopefully it will.

Xpartan
09-19-19, 07:27
For some reason it says $195 all inclusive. But on Agoda I just booked for three nights executive suite for $170 November. This price includes breakfasts. I had booked at Alicia hotel but they sent me a e mail saying they need to cancel. I guess they are closing for good.

Hope Ahnee resort is still open on my dates. Not much worried about Chicas. I can get them from anywhere because I will have a rental car.I stayed there once, even wrote a report, but then I got logged out, probably hit a wrong button, pfff, it's gone. I posted it here first, but I'm going to cut and paste it properly in the hotel section. Check it there if you're interested.

Brugs
09-19-19, 23:29
I was there yesterday, it was open and had a bunch of chicas. I did not see so much harassment from the police with street walkers.

Tru Life
09-20-19, 23:38
I was there yesterday, it was open and had a bunch of chicas. I did not see so much harassment from the police with street walkers.Good to know I'm heading out there next week Wednesday, I was wondering how bad it might be when I got there compared to my previous trips.

Brugs
09-21-19, 23:07
At Merengue around 10 pm, I said about 50 girls hanging, I met Katherin 23 years old from Santiago. Most of the girls asked 80 $ for ST, you can go down to 50 $, but 2000/25000 pesos I did not find.

Or it was really no the type I like.


Good to know I'm heading out there next week Wednesday, I was wondering how bad it might be when I got there compared to my previous trips.

Bart1
09-22-19, 23:43
At Merengue around 10 pm, I said about 50 girls hanging, I met Katherin 23 years old from Santiago. Most of the girls asked 80 $ for ST, you can go down to 50 $, but 2000/25000 pesos I did not find.

Or it was really no the type I like.Typical domincana chicas, when business is slow then the prices go up, hard for a gringo to understand latinas.

Brother P
09-23-19, 12:10
Typical domincana chicas, when business is slow then the prices go up, hard for a gringo to understand latinas.Not hard to understand. You simply can speak logically to an illogical person! LOL. I'm speaking of putas, not ndominicanas overall.

Brugs
09-24-19, 22:38
Typical domincana chicas, when business is slow then the prices go up, hard for a gringo to understand latinas.BTW, I'm not a gringo.

All the guys I saw in the street trying to get a ST for 2500 made the girls laugh.

Rebel Monger
09-25-19, 19:37
BTW, I'm not a gringo.So, are you Dominicano?

Brugs
09-25-19, 22:05
So, are you Dominicano?I meant I'm not from the US, I'm from Europe.

But I understood when Bart1 said "hard to understand Latinas".

Even if I'm travelling a lot to LATAM and met a bunch of girls with years.

Charles Pooter
09-26-19, 02:06
BTW, I'm not a gringo.All white foreigners are "gringos' to Dominicans same as all East Asians are "chinos".


All the guys I saw in the street trying to get a ST for 2500 made the girls laugh.And I would be laughing at all the suckers willing to pay 2500 for ST. Absolutely not necessary in this country. My very pretty, very young regular is more than happy to give me three hours of her time for 1000 plus moto fare. I have to feed her but as she cooks for me I don't mind that. And if she ever asked for more there are plenty of others in line. And I am no Brad Pitt. More like "the pits".

GrownMan1
09-26-19, 02:42
All white foreigners are "gringos' to Dominicans same as all East Asians are "chinos".

And I would be laughing at all the suckers willing to pay 2500 for ST. Absolutely not necessary in this country. My very pretty, very young regular is more than happy to give me three hours of her time for 1000 plus moto fare. I have to feed her but as she cooks for me I don't mind that. And if she ever asked for more there are plenty of others in line. And I am no Brad Pitt. More like "the pits".I'm with you Charles. That's the bad thing about the Su and a lot of inexperience mongers their for P4P. They let the Chicas set the tone and the price. Many of us are at a disadvantage because we're on a short vacation with A hard dick in a lot of money to spend.
The chicas’s union is always there working us. It's the guys that live and frequent there a lot that are able to maintain price integrity. The chicas are quickly using there limited movement to their advantage. Quite honestly any opportunity or situations they and use to increase prices is an opportunity indeed. Look he said they laughed at the offered price! Like them saying, "we know you want us more than we want your money". So paid more or keep walking.

Brugs
09-26-19, 09:13
I'm with you Charles. That's the bad thing about the Su and a lot of inexperience mongers their for P4P. They let the Chicas set the tone and the price. Many of us are at a disadvantage because we're on a short vacation with A hard dick in a lot of money to spend.
The chicass union is always there working us. It's the guys that live and frequent there a lot that are able to maintain price integrity. The chicas are quickly using there limited movement to their advantage. Quite honestly any opportunity or situations they and use to increase prices is an opportunity indeed. Look he said they laughed at the offered price! Like them saying, "we know you want us more than we want your money". So paid more or keep walking.You're right, I've been there only for one day, so I did not had time to check many girls, and I wanted to get laid the only night I was there. At the beginning, some were asking like a 100 dollars for 1 hour, and 150 dollars for two hours. With what I read, I did not want to spend this amount of money, so when she said 50 dollars 1 h30, two pops, kissing and "oral al natural" I said OK.

And I laugh when she asked for a propina at the end. I told her I think it's enough (she also wanted money for the motoconcho, eat and drink stuff from the minibar).

Next time I will be there an full weekend, so I'll try to get a ST for 2500 pesos.

Brugs.

GrownMan1
09-26-19, 15:54
At the beginning, some were asking like a 100 dollars for 1 hour, and 150 dollars for two hours.
It's a goddamn shame the prices have gotten to this point. I salute you for doing your homework. So many of us don't. My first time to the DR I think I paid 100 to 120 at a casa.
Back in the US paying $100 plus dollars for a pretty Chica while on vacation is all in the budget. Later some of the chicas were whispering to my friend who had not pick a Chica, tell them $50. I did not understand Dominican culture, finances, or The fair market value for what I was purchasing. I was just on vacation with a goal and vacation money.

For some people that doesn't matter $100 is a fair price. It's all good just not for me. P4 P is the game that we play. Now that I understand things a bit more; my choices are much better and my prices are much cheaper. I actually a lot more for less.

AllanParke
09-26-19, 23:27
Recently became a member of the international site but a long term member of the US version of this site. Finally taking my talents overseas for a few days to see for myself if it's as good as people say. As the title says first time in DR. I've read this forum religiously over the last couple of days. I've decided to stay at New Garden over my usual Air BnB and decided to avoid Blackbeards because I want more variety and be closer to the action. I think I understand what price range to negotiate chicas for their time. My question is, where (if anywhere specific) do I find chicas that want to spend all day and night in a girlfriend situation? I've been talking to a few on tinder but again don't want to limit my choices. Also, I am looking for a specific type (21-32 years old, fair skin, curves in the right places), is there a specific bar or side of town to find more girls that fit these criteria as opposed to the girls just looking for ST?

OldKool
09-27-19, 00:28
The girls lie to each other. They tell their friends they got a 100 for thier box when really it was 1500 pesos. Most girls go home with no takers in the SU. They become desperate for a taker and will go for any reasonable offer. That why the new girls come with dreams of the 100 dllar quickie and are shocked when they see more attractive girls begging for 2000 pesos, I try not to low ball them because a sour atitude makes for a sour pussy. Meaning if the girl feels you have takien advantage of them thier performance will suck. Expats have a differrent approach then us mongers. They seem to be trying to get the lowest price they can and they have the time wait for the "good deal". Us weekend warrior do not have time to hem and haw. An extra 10 bucks for a happy attractive lay is no swet. 2500 pesos is 50 dollars 3000 is 60 bucks. In the states you would pay 3 times this for lesser quality IMHO. The key to me is I pad all this money to get there and the best bargain is the girls.

Charles Pooter
09-27-19, 15:02
Also, I am looking for a specific type (... fair skin ...)You are coming to the wrong town and country. Sure, there are fair-skinned girls in the DR, but not many on the game as they find it much easier to get legit jobs or become affluent Dominicans' mistresses. Try Colombia.

I guess 1% of the working girls in Sosua are fair-skinned, and these either charge high prices or have behavioral problems.

The Cane
09-27-19, 16:06
The girls lie to each other. They tell their friends they got a 100 for thier box when really it was 1500 pesos. Most girls go home with no takers in the SU. They become desperate for a taker and will go for any reasonable offer. That why the new girls come with dreams of the 100 dollar quickie and are shocked when they see more attractive girls begging for 2000 pesos, I try not to low ball them because a sour attitude makes for a sour pussy. Meaning if the girl feels you have taken advantage of them their performance will suck. Expats have a different approach then us mongers. They seem to be trying to get the lowest price they can and they have the time wait for the "good deal". Us weekend warrior do not have time to hem and haw. An extra 10 bucks for a happy attractive lay is no sweat. 2500 pesos is 50 dollars 3000 is 60 bucks. In the states you would pay 3 times this for lesser quality IMHO. The key to me is I pad all this money to get there and the best bargain is the girls.I know man. I paid $R400 to be with a girl for two hours in Rio de Janeiro (that's about $50 an hour), and somebody is going to criticize me and say that wasn't a good deal! I'm like look, where I come from the cream of the crop optics-wise would cost 5 times as much (not just 3) and deliver far less! Absolutely a deal for a tourist monger such as myself. Absolutely!

Mr Enternational
09-27-19, 17:17
I know man. I paid $R400 to be with a girl for two hours in Rio de Janeiro (that's about $50 an hour), and somebody is going to criticize me and say that wasn't a good deal! I'm like look, where I come from the cream of the crop optics-wise would cost 5 times as much (not just 3) and deliver far less! Absolutely a deal for a tourist monger such as myself. Absolutely!I was not trying to criticize you. I am a tourist a lot of places. But I have never understood the "back home" thinking. Nobody goes to a more expensive place and talks about how much cheaper it would be back home. They only do that with the cheaper places. I don't think about what it would cost back home. I think about what it costs HERE!

AllanParke
09-27-19, 17:18
I guess 1% of the working girls in Sosua are fair-skinned.Wow, that's significantly less than I thought. Either way should be a great time. All set to leave next weekend.

Chris H
09-27-19, 18:37
I was not trying to criticize you. I am a tourist a lot of places. But I have never understood the "back home" thinking. Nobody goes to a more expensive place and talks about how much cheaper it would be back home. They only do that with the cheaper places. I don't think about what it would cost back home. I think about what it costs HERE!Exactly it's a mindset thing with some of these mongers. Can't let go of what's at home, and always want to do a comparison. Those are the ones that effect the market.

The Cane
09-27-19, 20:33
Exactly it's a mindset thing with some of these mongers. Can't let go of what's at home, and always want to do a comparison. Those are the ones that effect the market.Not true I "affected" the market negatively. An expat monger assured me privately that I was absolutely within the range of local market pricing. And at most of the other places I patronized like the termas in Rio and the boates in So Paulo, there was either set pricing by the club, or a "common market" price that you knew all of the girls were going to start out asking for, and then you negotiate from there. I paid what Brazilians patronizing those same clubs pay.

I'm not the kind of monger who only makes a comparison between home and the overseas location I'm in. I do think about what is a fair price in the country where I'm mongering, regardless of home country price. But, I certainly don't ignore the latter either. It all comes into play in a personal economic analysis, including my status as a tourist with a limited amount of time to do my "buying". I'm not going to spend a lot of time haggling over $15 to $20 if I see something I got to have. And I'm not going to fuck in dirty rooms to save money on the fuck either, but that's just me. The only thing I want to be dirty in the room is the sex!

I do my homework before I travel, even if I have been to a place many times before because things do change, and I make sure I don't get ripped off, be that in Brazil, Germany, The Philippines, Thailand or wherever. What is a fair price locally, and how does that compare to back home? I ask both questions, plus consider the level of service I can expect to get in each place for what I'm paying too. It all goes into the mix. It is why I stay my ass out of Switzerland and the UAE, among some other places. They don't work for me on an economic level, or even in terms of customer satisfaction.

Bliadun
09-27-19, 20:55
And now asking prices are higher in Sosua. Coincidence?

Maybe the economy is booming LOL?


At Merengue around 10 pm, I said about 50 girls hanging, I met Katherin 23 years old from Santiago. Most of the girls asked 80 $ for ST, you can go down to 50 $, but 2000/25000 pesos I did not find.

Or it was really no the type I like.

Questner
09-28-19, 03:34
Recently became a member of the international site but a long term member of the US version of this site. Finally taking my talents overseas for a few days to see for myself if it's as good as people say. As the title says first time in DR. I've read this forum religiously over the last couple of days. I've decided to stay at New Garden over my usual Air BnB and decided to avoid Blackbeards because I want more variety and be closer to the action. I think I understand what price range to negotiate chicas for their time. My question is, where (if anywhere specific) do I find chicas that want to spend all day and night in a girlfriend situation? I've been talking to a few on tinder but again don't want to limit my choices. Also, I am looking for a specific type (21-32 years old, fair skin, curves in the right places), is there a specific bar or side of town to find more girls that fit these criteria as opposed to the girls just looking for ST?For fair skin set your Tinder profile for Santiago and source from there and surrounding Cibao region.

Brother P
09-28-19, 14:22
2nd day back. Had a chica from my contacts the first day. 2500 well spent! Didn't stay out late.

Spent yesterday on the beach drinking with friends. Good times! Was in the apt ready to crash at 10. But decided to hit merengue for one more drink and to see how it looked. Aas I walked in started chatting with a sexy short brown skinned chica. She gave me a hard on! Got the WhatsApp and she insisted I hit her immediately so she could have my contact. Got a drink and scanned the crowd. A few stunners and a lot of decent chicas. A lot of guys as well. Finished my drink. Told the chica 2500. Sexo con condom pero tu me chupas sin condom. She agreed immediately. Service was good, but not great. We had a drink and she did a little strip tease. LOL.

The day was slow, but there were some chicas on the beach. Saw Dominican dudes and chicas being arrested. Not worried at all. Going to be a great trip!

Oakie
09-28-19, 14:30
Not true I "affected" the market negatively. An expat monger assured me privately that I was absolutely within the range of local market pricing. And at most of the other places I patronized like the termas in Rio and the boates in So Paulo, there was either set pricing by the club, or a "common market" price that you knew all of the girls were going to start out asking for, and then you negotiate from there. I paid what Brazilians patronizing those same clubs pay.

I'm not the kind of monger who only makes a comparison between home and the overseas location I'm in. I do think about what is a fair price in the country where I'm mongering, regardless of home country price. But, I certainly don't ignore the latter either. It all comes into play in a personal economic analysis, including my status as a tourist with a limited amount of time to do my "buying". I'm not going to spend a lot of time haggling over $15 to $20 if I see something I got to have. And I'm not going to fuck in dirty rooms to save money on the fuck either, but that's just me. The only thing I want to be dirty in the room is the sex!

I do my homework before I travel, even if I have been to a place many times before because things do change, and I make sure I don't get ripped off, be that in Brazil, Germany, The Philippines, Thailand or wherever. What is a fair price locally, and how does that compare to back home? I ask both questions, plus consider the level of service I can expect to get in each place for what I'm paying too. It all goes into the mix. It is why I stay my ass out of Switzerland and the UAE, among some other places. They don't work for me on an economic level, or even in terms of customer satisfaction.Don't "price shamed" by mongers, lol.

From my experience mongers brag as much as hookers lie.

Your obligation in the DR or anywhere else is to get your satisfaction for your money, not worry about "the market". Your market is what you want and when you want it! You can't get lobster for the price of a plate of fries. It's just not the same!

You generally get what you pay for. It's no co-incidence that those who complain about what other mongers spend, are also the ones that complain the most about the Sosua hoes, and the rip offs. lol.

Enjoy!

Mr Enternational
09-28-19, 21:52
That Aida is a damn fool!

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=378967353005310&_rdr

The Cane
09-28-19, 22:04
Don't "price shamed” by mongers lol. You can't get lobster for the price of a plate of fries. It's just not the same!Feel no "shame". Just annoyance. And yes, things carry different value, including pussy. Guys who think no pussy should cost more than a certain amount just aren't operating in the real world. That's not how life works. Anyway, I will say no more on the subject.

Questner
09-29-19, 03:49
Over the years the prices I had were from free to a bottle of soft drink to $200 USD. No one yet offered to pay me or asked over $200 USD per hour. Expats regularly pay 1,000 pesos during the day to a girl with a pulse, most do them bareback. As a tourist I'm ok with RD $2,000 to RD $3,500 for a good time.

Brother P
09-29-19, 16:22
Awesome night! Watched the fight! Hit merengue. Could see the line for classico was to the street. Knew it would be jammed packed but couldn't resist. It was wall to wall! A lot of 7's and up! Had a good time! Pulled a sexy flaca. A solid 7. Told her sexo con condom pero tu me chupas sin condom. 2500. She's says ok papi! Good sex. No drama. Sosua lives! Peace!

John Gault
09-29-19, 17:36
I was not trying to criticize you. I am a tourist a lot of places. But I have never understood the "back home" thinking. Nobody goes to a more expensive place and talks about how much cheaper it would be back home. They only do that with the cheaper places. I don't think about what it would cost back home. I think about what it costs HERE!This thinking that you point out concerning guys who bring up the prices they pay compared to their home country is really nonsense. I wonder if they compare computer prices from the DR to what they pay at home? If they consider The cost to get to the airport, changing planes, the cost of a taxi after landing, then the hotel room they need it would seem like the great difference in price they are getting is not a great deal as they imagine from their home base. Another way to look at it is the hassle of customs, airport delays, lost luggage, and other things like dealing with the touts, and rip off providers.

One other thing is the exchange rate changes sometimes against the Monger.

Sammon
09-29-19, 17:47
Awesome night! Watched the fight! Hit merengue. Could see the line for classico was to the street. Knew it would be jammed packed but couldn't resist. It was wall to wall! A lot of 7's and up! Had a good time! Pulled a sexy flaca. A solid 7. Told her sexo con condom pero tu me chupas sin condom. 2500. She's says ok papi! Good sex. No drama. Sosua lives! Peace!Thanks for on the site report. Glad to know Sosua is not dead.

Rebel Monger
09-29-19, 19:36
This thinking that you point out concerning guys who bring up the prices they pay compared to their home country is really nonsense. I wonder if they compare computer prices from the DR to what they pay at home? If they consider The cost to get to the airport, changing planes, the cost of a taxi after landing, then the hotel room they need it would seem like the great difference in price they are getting is not a great deal as they imagine from their home base. Another way to look at it is the hassle of customs, airport delays, lost luggage, and other things like dealing with the touts, and rip off providers.

One other thing is the exchange rate changes sometimes against the Monger.I just realized who you are! It's nice to know you're having fun. I still remember the fun that us (three amigos) had one night in Medellin. You're a great guy and wish you keep having fun for a very long time. Take care!

John Gault
09-30-19, 03:24
I just realized who you are! It's nice to know you're having fun. I still remember the fun that us (three amigos) had one night in Medellin. You're a great guy and wish you keep having fun for a very long time. Take care!Yes I remember that crazy night well. I wish you well also. One thing for sure, those different fun times we can always remember after all else fades.

AllanParke
09-30-19, 05:02
For fair skin set your Tinder profile for Santiago and source from there and surrounding Cibao region.I've decided to only use Tinder for that first initial night. I'll be getting to Sosua at around 9 or 10 pm on a Saturday after flying and taxi from Santiago. I'll probably go out for a drink but I know I won't feel like doing a lot of searching the first night. Thanks for the tip though, I didn't realize a lot of girls travel like close to two hours to go to Sosua for the weekend.

RacShack
09-30-19, 06:30
Awesome night! Watched the fight! Hit merengue. Could see the line for classico was to the street. Knew it would be jammed packed but couldn't resist. It was wall to wall! A lot of 7's and up! Had a good time! Pulled a sexy flaca. A solid 7. Told her sexo con condom pero tu me chupas sin condom. 2500. She's says ok papi! Good sex. No drama. Sosua lives! Peace!So last I read Classico was closed? And the bar below it also? Did I miss something? Or just read wrong? Thanks.

Oakie
09-30-19, 16:35
I've decided to only use Tinder for that first initial night. I'll be getting to Sosua at around 9 or 10 pm on a Saturday after flying and taxi from Santiago. I'll probably go out for a drink but I know I won't feel like doing a lot of searching the first night. Thanks for the tip though, I didn't realize a lot of girls travel like close to two hours to go to Sosua for the weekend.Yep, you'll find most of the ladies on a busy weekend come from out of town, many from Santo Domingo, and surrounding areas! That's why folks should be careful of stereotyping "Sosua chicas"!

Brother P
09-30-19, 16:46
So last I read Classico was closed? And the bar below it also? Did I miss something? Or just read wrong? Thanks.Everything is open. My understanding is classico closed for one night.

Mr Enternational
09-30-19, 16:53
I've decided to only use Tinder for that first initial night. I'll be getting to Sosua at around 9 or 10 pm on a Saturday after flying and taxi from Santiago. I'll probably go out for a drink but I know I won't feel like doing a lot of searching the first night. Thanks for the tip though, I didn't realize a lot of girls travel like close to two hours to go to Sosua for the weekend.More than likely, if you are using Tinder then it would be for chicks no closer than Puerto Plata. I have not noticed chicks in Sosua on Tinder like that. The M.O. of Sosua is an open market. Chicks are not hanging on Tinder when they can just walk outside and find a guy. And as late as you are getting in, nobody is going to be traveling that far to see you. Tinder is going to be a waste of time for that night.

Sosua is not but so big. If you are going out for a drink, then you are literally searching for chicks at the same time.

GrownMan1
10-01-19, 05:00
Recently became a member of the international site but a long term member of the US version of this site. Finally taking my talents overseas for a few days to see for myself if it's as good as people say. As the title says first time in DR. I've read this forum religiously over the last couple of days. I've decided to stay at New Garden over my usual Air BnB and decided to avoid Blackbeards because I want more variety and be closer to the action. I think I understand what price range to negotiate chicas for their time. My question is, where (if anywhere specific) do I find chicas that want to spend all day and night in a girlfriend situation? I've been talking to a few on tinder but again don't want to limit my choices. Also, I am looking for a specific type (21-32 years old, fair skin, curves in the right places), is there a specific bar or side of town to find more girls that fit these criteria as opposed to the girls just looking for ST?My man don't go to the Su looking for a girlfriend. I mean the GFE. And if your plan on using tinder don't invite any of the chicas who do not live in the Su to the Su. You cannot meet a nice chica and invite her to the working girl trap. If you plan on the girlfriend experience get a hotel away from the street walkers town.

AllanParke
10-01-19, 06:12
More than likely, if you are using Tinder then it would be for chicks no closer than Puerto Plata. I have not noticed chicks in Sosua on Tinder like that. The M.O. of Sosua is an open market. Chicks are not hanging on Tinder when they can just walk outside and find a guy. And as late as you are getting in, nobody is going to be traveling that far to see you.Yea I'm starting to notice that. I've already begun to change my "plans" because of my late arrival. As far as a "girlfriend" goes, I'm absolutely positively not looking for an actual girlfriend lmao. Just a girl who hangs around when I'm there. I'm not looking to set any records for my trip, I'd be OK with a few good women for the duration, quality over quantity. The other problem with Tinder is it feels like a part-time job trying to message back and forth with all the women that are using it. Thanks for the great advice thought guys.

Cool
10-01-19, 13:31
Is all and well in Sosua? I heard of the crackdowns. Are there cute girls on Clisante? I ask because I have no contacts with the girl and would be starting from the beginning. I can't follow my friend who knows several chicas.

Brother P
10-01-19, 16:23
Is all and well in Sosua? I heard of the crackdowns. Are there cute girls on Clisante? I ask because I have no contacts with the girl and would be starting from the beginning. I can't follow my friend who knows several chicas.Even with the crackdown there's still plenty of chicas. Slow during the day, chicas in merengue and bourbon street later. You'll be fine.

GrownMan1
10-01-19, 18:59
quality over quantity. The other problem with Tinder is it feels like a part-time job trying to message back and forth with all the women that are using it. Thanks for the great advice thought guys.Dude it sounds like you got the right plan in the wrong place. Most of us go to the Su for quantity and not quality. You sound like a man looking for quality. But you're looking in McDonald's for stake.

I agree with you about Tinder. It too time consuming. I don't want to waste my time going back and forth with chicas for hours, days, weeks, or months in hopes that I may meet her on my 4 to 6 day vacation. So many of us find out that chicas have all the time in the world for internet communications, but when you arrive; 70 to 90% can't be found. You should to be in a good area for Tinder and DC to work for you. Other wise its like asking a girl to meet you in a swingers club for your first date.

IMHO I think you should just go to a casa early and get a deal for a Chica for the day. You sound like you have patients. Take your time, interview, and go with you guts. You seem pretty experienced enough to make a good choice.

AllanParke
10-01-19, 20:22
IMHO I think you should just go to a casa early and get a deal for a Chica for the day. You sound like you have patients. Take your time, interview, and go with you guts. You seem pretty experienced enough to make a good choice.When you say a casa, are you talking about Blackbeards or Oasis?

MobToatl88
10-02-19, 19:56
Follow up report from over the weekend. Boots on the ground last Thursday, my 4th trip to the Su, brought my buddy for his first trip.

Of course I noticed the decline in street action, but my friend was overly impressed and loved it, so perception is everything here.

Nonetheless, we both had a great time. Clubs were packed all nights, we also ventured off the strip and found some great spots.

St action was had from as little as 1000 up to 3000 for the chica with all the "enhancements" (she was fun but could still feel and see the stitches LOL); my buddy even got some free action from a very hot top prospect, so he was in heaven.

We did see a few girls getting snatched up by police, but it was rare. Chicas will grab the nearest male to appear busy when the police ride by.

We are considering a return for New Years eve; what's NYE like in the Su? Worth a M-F trip rather than a weekend trip?

And to that poster who mentioned the return of our friend Jennifer with the moto, yes she was there, although IMO she has lost a little of her pizzazz over the last couple of years.

OldKool
10-03-19, 05:56
Had a ball batted a 1000. All the girls were winners. This trip was prompted by a 288 round trip fare to SD. I could not turn it down. I hooked up with 2 of my favs. In SD. Used Uber to get around and a very good time. I spent 2 days there banging my girls and had amazing sex. After 2 days I came to Sosua ready to make friends. Because I know so many of the regulars, hands are always out. On this trip I hooked up with a 22 year old who had me sprung on my last trip. She was a newby when I met her last month. A month of Sosua had jaded her bit and made her appreciate me a bit more. Spent 1st day and night with her as my girlfriend. Next day I admitted to my self Sosua is not a place to have a gilrl friend. I met chica in Classicos the night before, get this name little Big tits. That is what she called herself 5'2" 120 pounds 30 of it tities. Very cute solid body. The girl could take dick like you would not believe. The sex was great and she could be as nasty as you wanted. This was lunch time action. I was going to bring her back and kick girlfriend to the curb. "Remember this rule" There are no rules do what makes you happy.

Around 3 I go to the beach and chill. It was Tuesday and not much on the street so the beach was a good option. I met a sweet 20 year old who brought memories of my college girlfriend very sweet. We walk to the German place next to Bourbon St. I buy her dinner and was sitting with her when a chica I had been spinning for a few years walks in. I felt I owed her so I said good by to the 20 year old and took the old friend for some rack time. My Haitian friend gave me all she had and it was fantastic. Often the girls in the SU give half ass efforts and most guys can tell the differnce. My girl let me know she was glad I gave her another shot. It is my last day in the SU and I am not holding back. By 6 oclock I am back on the prawl. I go to Rumbas and order some ribs. I see the 20 year old and she is with friend. They sits with me and I share my meal with her friend. I was getting a good girl vibe from the 20 year old and I want nasty girl but her friend seems willing to be nasty. It is my last night so why not do them both. 4000 pesos for both of them. Normally 3 somes are bull shit and this could have gone that way.

Broke out my buddy the vibrator and banged both girls with gusto. To my surprise college girl did a great BJ which led me laying some pipe while her buddy was in the bath room. She loosen up and we had a great session. College girl was the better fuck. I bought her back to hours later for another session both were excellent. She came both times.

It is 9 oclock and I had told little big tits to come by at 10. It is my last night and I need to be free. I cancel 1st night girlfriend and little big tits. I go to Classicos and see the puta of my dreams. She had been taken off the market for 2 years by her American boy friend. She looks like Gabriel Union and fucks like a porn star. She is the complete package. I take her back to the room and she is everything remember. She gave great head, fucked and gave a show with the vibrator that bought the house down. A perfect ending to perfect time in Sosua. This is Oldkool home chilling with very nice memories.

OldKool
10-03-19, 06:51
Great performer one of the best ever had in Su.

SosuaPlaya
10-03-19, 09:29
So, my first mongering experience ever was in Sosua (I posted my trip report a while back). My biggest issues were that girls wouldn't really follow the script. I would google translate basically BBBJ with propina if they swallow and every single chick I asked said yes. No chica actually performed BBBJ. What gives? The other head for some reason is making me want to go again to test my luck because there were some curvy hotties there, but I am also considering just going to Cartagena or Medellin because those places are rumored to give better service.

Brother P
10-03-19, 18:10
Great performer one of the best ever had in Su.Are you the old guy in the captain's hat that was dancing his ass off in merengue last night? LMAO! My man!

Brother P
10-03-19, 18:13
Seems like talent is down a little since the white party last weekend. But it's still good! Merengue and classico were fun last night! Enough pretty chicas. Had some new ones, some off my WhatsApp. Polica still arresting chicas though.

GrownMan1
10-03-19, 22:16
When you say a casa, are you talking about Blackbeards or Oasis?I wrote three responses. I don't know why they Didn't post?

Naked Gunz
10-04-19, 00:13
Great performer one of the best ever had in Su.Awesome fuckin body!

OldKool
10-04-19, 04:37
This girl knew how to take dick. I put her on my roster. She positioned her body so you got straight penetration. I have have had well over a hundred girls and she stands out as a top performer. She let me take pictures.


Awesome fuckin body!

MikeM488
10-06-19, 23:00
Go 10 days for the past eight years.

Usually the cops are going for the Haitians on the main drag. This year they were going after all the girls on the main drag. It sucked. I usually would get two or three just walking on the street. Not this year. Nothing. Only exception was Sunday during the early NFL games. Sitting at Bourban as numerous girls walked by.

But the clubs were full at night including City Light.

Just a little info for Classico fans. Usual closing at 3 am on weekend. But it closes at 1 am on Sunday, Wed, and Thursday. Closed on Tuesday and probably Monday.

Also the resurfacing the road between Sosua and the airport. Expect a 30 to 45 minute delay. They do not believe in 15 minute block one way and 15 the other way. I had forty minutes of stopped traffic. Plus if somebody is trying to make a left turn thru the stopped traffic. Possibility you cannot go around that car. So traffic is blocked sometimes both ways.

MikeM488
10-06-19, 23:08
Harassing by the cops at night has no affect on the visiting ship tourists.

If your assistant would come down to the main drag they would notice. All the tourist vans come by during the day. They are back on their ships eating at 6 pm. So leave the girls along after 6 pm.

Plus the only reason theyare driving on the main drag and looking at the girls is to see the sex worker. There is nothing for the tourist vans to do in Sosua.

Brother P
10-06-19, 23:40
Just got home from a 10 day trip. Had a good time! Its not the old days. It's slow during the day, but some action on the beach. Cops still arresting chicas and some Dominican men. But still a good time! I used my WhatsApp contacts, but still met 3 new chicas. Many chicas are good with 2500 pesos short term. Thursday night the weekend chicas still roll in. Sosua isn't dead! Peace!

OldKool
10-06-19, 23:51
A slow su is better then fast anywhere I have been. My whatsup rosster has gotten so strong that is getting hard to fine time for new girls. Never the less on my last trip I found 2 strong performing new girls to add to the roster.


Just got home from a 10 day trip. Had a good time! Its not the old days. It's slow during the day, but some action on the beach. Cops still arresting chicas and some Dominican men. But still a good time! I used my WhatsApp contacts, but still met 3 new chicas. Many chicas are good with 2500 pesos short term. Thursday night the weekend chicas still roll in. Sosua isn't dead! Peace!

Brother P
10-07-19, 00:07
A slow su is better then fast anywhere I have been. My whatsup rosster has gotten so strong that is getting hard to fine time for new girls. Never the less on my last trip I found 2 strong performing new girls to add to the roster.Amen! A slow night in the sue IS better than a fast night in the states! I think I saw you in merengue dancing salsa! You had on a brown short set an a brown sailor Captain hat. Your salsa is good! My bachata is good! But not my salsa! I salute Old Kool!

Naked Gunz
10-07-19, 10:03
My whatsup rosster has gotten so strong that is getting hard to fine time for new girls.Yeah, I'm starting to regret having a roster cause the ladies ruin it by later trying to get you to send $$. It usually starts with "How are you? The standard reply is: "Bad".

OldKool
10-07-19, 20:46
I say the majic word NO. I will say this there are some girls who are worth a propina. Once you take the time to break them in you to keep them.


Yeah, I'm starting to regret having a roster cause the ladies ruin it by later trying to get you to send $$. It usually starts with "How are you? The standard reply is: "Bad".

Mr Enternational
10-08-19, 03:31
Yeah, I'm starting to regret having a roster cause the ladies ruin it by later trying to get you to send $$. It usually starts with "How are you? The standard reply is: "Bad".That is why you either don't ask that question or jump ahead with your own sob story. 2 hours ago a chick who thinks she is 3 months pregnant with my baby sent me this. (Weird as shit. It just looks like it is laying on top of her arm. LOL.) Little does she know, I can't have kids. Before, she asked me if I was going to help with the prenatal stuff. I said nope; all I do is take care of my kid when it comes out. Something tells me she may end up losing the baby like they always do.

OldKool
10-08-19, 20:52
One of my long time chicas works at a hospital. When ever she gets hard up I get photo of her in a hospital bed. I even got a copy of a bill with someone elses name on it. Sadly several other girls have made similar destessed requeests. Once I had 3 different girls in one week try to scam me.


That is why you either don't ask that question or jump ahead with your own sob story. 2 hours ago a chick who thinks she is 3 months pregnant with my baby sent me this. (Weird as shit. It just looks like it is laying on top of her arm. LOL.) Little does she know, I can't have kids. Before, she asked me if I was going to help with the prenatal stuff. I said nope; all I do is take care of my kid when it comes out. Something tells me she may end up losing the baby like they always do.

Brother P
10-09-19, 11:22
One of my long time chicas works at a hospital. When ever she gets hard up I get photo of her in a hospital bed. I even got a copy of a bill with someone elses name on it. Sadly several other girls have made similar destessed requeests. Once I had 3 different girls in one week try to scam me.RFM. Request for money is part of the game, especially in the DR. Like you said, the magic word is no. Mi amor, yo nunca mandar dinero de nadie. Cuando te veo posible puedo ayudarte. This chicas respect a firm hand. You have to be a little pimpish with them. But not abusive.

BigTimeFun
10-11-19, 22:04
So, my first mongering experience ever was in Sosua (I posted my trip report a while back). My biggest issues were that girls wouldn't really follow the script. I would google translate basically BBBJ with propina if they swallow and every single chick I asked said yes. No chica actually performed BBBJ. What gives? The other head for some reason is making me want to go again to test my luck because there were some curvy hotties there, but I am also considering just going to Cartagena or Medellin because those places are rumored to give better service.Try Colombia and go back to Sosua. You may like both. I do.

OldKool
10-16-19, 03:35
Had so much fun on last trip had to do it agan. Did a split ticket play American into POP for $220 great price. Return flight on Spirit $130 out of SD awesome price and great departure time 3 pm. This gives me time to go out slinging. $350 round trio to DR flying into POP. Arriving at 1:30. This is why I can do 5 trips a year. I live in the DC area so this price was a show stopper. Round trip to POP is normaly $650. By flying back through Santo Dpmingo I spend a day with one of my roster chicas in SD and save almost $300 on my return trip. I am stoked because I have some solid babes to hook uo with on call.

WanderingMan
10-16-19, 05:56
Old Kool,

When are you scheduled to return? I went in October of last year and about melted in the humidity and heat.

Charles Pooter
10-16-19, 15:06
I went in October of last year and about melted in the humidity and heat.Snowflake!

Jnd37
10-17-19, 00:24
So, my first mongering experience ever was in Sosua (I posted my trip report a while back). My biggest issues were that girls wouldn't really follow the script. I would google translate basically BBBJ with propina if they swallow and every single chick I asked said yes. No chica actually performed BBBJ. What gives? The other head for some reason is making me want to go again to test my luck because there were some curvy hotties there, but I am also considering just going to Cartagena or Medellin because those places are rumored to give better service.You have to be assertive, don't pay until after services are rendered. If they refuse that then just let them leave. In a hotel you're pretty safe, these girls are deathly afraid of the cops now so just threaten to call and they'll leave.

OldKool
10-17-19, 02:22
The girls are pros and can spot a newby in a heartbeat. Uasually the hardcore girls are pushy. I like to initiate first contact. However building a little repore before sex works wonders for your sessions. Making girls do things they are not comfortable is rarely a good thing. My last few trips have been awesome because the girls have been relaxed and comfortable with me. Not that I am all that but I take the time to set a positive mood with the girls before I drag them back to the room. I enjoy dancing and use it to break the ice. Most of the girls are pretty nice but there are some scammers who can ruin your night. Sosua is the highlight of my year. I am 60 plus and banging attractive women still blows my mind. So I have taken the time to learn enough Spanish to get by and dance with gusto. So if you want to max your time in Sosua or anywhere in the DR step your game up or not. Everyone has their own objectives. I like GFE with my sex other guys are happpy with going to bordellos for a quickie. Once you figure out what you want Sosua can provide it.


You have to be assertive, don't pay until after services are rendered. If they refuse that then just let them leave. In a hotel you're pretty safe, these girls are deathly afraid of the cops now so just threaten to call and they'll leave.

GrownMan1
10-17-19, 02:31
You have to be assertive, don't pay until after services are rendered. If they refuse that then just let them leave. In a hotel you're pretty safe, these girls are deathly afraid of the cops now so just threaten to call and they'll leave.I agree. They will offer you the Moon just to get past the front desk. After that it's all about the control that you assert. You can start off by just asking in a joking but serious way. Mami su chupa Buena? Con condom o sin? Is your BJ good? With condom or not? Get a direct answer the tone is set.

I said it before it's always good to add an incentive When negotiating. Example, you're willing to pay 2500 for a chica short term. During the Negotiations tell the girl that you will pay her 2000 pesos. However if she's good to thousand 500 no problem. I rarely meet Chica's that don't earn that extra no problem 500 pesos. The occasions that I do cool. She had her reasons not to do a good job; I have my reasons not to pay her the extra 500.

Manizales911
10-17-19, 09:27
During the Negotiations tell the girl that you will pay her 2000 pesos. However if she's good to thousand 500 no problem. I rarely meet Chica's that don't earn that extra no problem 500 pesos. The occasions that I do cool. She had her reasons not to do a good job; I have my reasons not to pay her the extra 500.This should be on the first page of the Mongers Handbook. Truth.

BigTimeFun
10-17-19, 21:19
I learned from someone right here on the Forum to just tell them that you cannot send money because you are saving up to visit them again. It has worked for me every time. It is difficult for them to tell you just send the money after that.

As your return line is I am working hard to get back to you.


RFM. Request for money is part of the game, especially in the DR. Like you said, the magic word is no. Mi amor, yo nunca mandar dinero de nadie. Cuando te veo posible puedo ayudarte. This chicas respect a firm hand. You have to be a little pimpish with them. But not abusive.

JormanL
10-18-19, 05:44
Hi,

Was wondering if anyone use DR CUpid and got a successful hook up with sex?

SamWebster
10-18-19, 10:35
This should be on the first page of the Mongers Handbook. Truth.I don't advise ever negotiating a tip with a chica. Once we settle on a price, sometimes the girl will then ask for a propina. I always tell them no propina. Its just their way of feeling you out to see how you are and how much they can get out of you. If you tell her "maybe" a propina, trust me no matter if she's great or if she sucked, she's going to expect that propina at the end. I don't generally give propinas, but I will shell out an extra 100 pesos for "pasaje" usually. I think that's fair enough.

Oakie
10-18-19, 11:33
I learned from someone right here on the Forum to just tell them that you cannot send money because you are saving up to visit them again. It has worked for me every time. It is difficult for them to tell you just send the money after that.

As your return line is I am working hard to get back to you.Could be one of my old lines I posted here.

I always wonder why some guys get bent out of shape by hookers asking for money!

Hoes don't even take it seriously themselves. They'll ask everybody, and it works often enough to make it worth their time! Just human nature.

Like car salesmen, politicians and time share pimps, they are not talking to you, only your wallet, so don't take them seriously, It's not personal!

BigTimeFun
10-18-19, 19:50
Amen. It is all part of the game. Sometimes us mongers want to personalize the business part. It is all business.


Could be one of my old lines I posted here.

I always wonder why some guys get bent out of shape by hookers asking for money!

Hoes don't even take it seriously themselves. They'll ask everybody, and it works often enough to make it worth their time! Just human nature.

Like car salesmen, politicians and time share pimps, they are not talking to you, only your wallet, so don't take them seriously, It's not personal!

GrownMan1
10-18-19, 20:06
I don't advise ever negotiating a tip with a chica. Once we settle on a price, sometimes the girl will then ask for a propina. I always tell them no propina. Its just their way of feeling you out to see how you are and how much they can get out of you. If you tell her "maybe" a propina, trust me no matter if she's great or if she sucked, she's going to expect that propina at the end. I don't generally give propinas, but I will shell out an extra 100 pesos for "pasaje" usually. I think that's fair enough.I see your point. But you miss the point, it wasn't a propina. It was exactly how much you were going to give her anyway. Look at the example. I think If we agree on a price and I tell her I will give her 100 pesos (2 dollars) extra if she adds chupa; that's not much of an incentive. That was an after the fact move.

OldKool
10-20-19, 01:35
Hotter then July.

Norbert61
10-22-19, 23:50
OK. I remember this being asked some time ago and the answer was there really wasn't any- why would you bother -you can just go to the corner and inspect in person- however- since the mayor's crusade to clean the place up I am wondering if this alternative has popped up. Someone on DR1 was posting something that would imply it had.

Scotch
10-24-19, 19:43
Bourbon street restaurant Is moving next week to the Ahnvee Hotel resort.

For you fans of the restaurant that Are not familiar with the hotel it's Past the Europa going towards the after hour casino.

It's a long walk from the old location most people will take a motor Concho but that's just the beginning of the changes in Sousa.

Mr Enternational
10-24-19, 21:03
Bourbon street restaurant Is moving next week to the Ahnvee Hotel resort.They say the new hoppin club Skybox is there too.

Manizales911
10-25-19, 01:14
Bourbon street restaurant Is moving next week to the Ahnvee Hotel resort.

For you fans of the restaurant that Are not familiar with the hotel it's Past the Europa going towards the after hour casino.

It's a long walk from the old location most people will take a motor Concho but that's just the beginning of the changes in Sousa.Bourbon St. Made a deal with the devil that if they moved down to what will become the new red light district they would be given a license to stay open until 5 am As Mr E. Pointed out the new disco will open at Ahnvee also. City Lights is moving into the old High Caribbean building. And so it begins.

Mr Gogo
10-25-19, 02:56
Bourbon St. Made a deal with the devil that if they moved down to what will become the new red light district they would be given a license to stay open until 5 am As Mr E. Pointed out the new disco will open at Ahnvee also. City Lights is moving into the old High Caribbean building. And so it begins.Good info Mani, I will go to Sosua and Cabarette next week for the Jazz festival and I will see for myself. I also feel its some dirty dealing going on here.

Wasn't Amvee having financial issues and problems with people who paid deposits? I used to walk to that end all the time to one of my hideout spots, Freds Cuba libre bar, and that area gets shady late at night.

If the Sosua we know becomes family tourist friendly will the hotels then become non chica friendly? If they shut down Rumbas that was involved as community sponsors, why wouldn't they eventually go after Amvee?

Riding a moto from the Amvee to the casino is a dark loney ride at night, walking is out of the question.

I'm sorry but I just don't trust it but we will see what happens.

Njoean197
10-25-19, 05:04
Was thinking about spending the last two weeks in December in the DR. How is Sosua during Christmas week? Will there be chicas out and people parting or are most Dominicans with family?

Brother P
10-25-19, 15:07
Was thinking about spending the last two weeks in December in the DR. How is Sosua during Christmas week? Will there be chicas out and people parting or are most Dominicans with family?This will be my 6th Christmas in sosua. It's always slow. But there will be some chicas around. I personally have contacts in the area. The weather is usually good and it's still better than being home. Enjoy!

Oakie
10-25-19, 15:42
Good info Mani, I will go to Sosua and Cabarette next week for the Jazz festival and I will see for myself. I also feel its some dirty dealing going on here.

Wasn't Amvee having financial issues and problems with people who paid deposits? I used to walk to that end all the time to one of my hideout spots, Freds Cuba libre bar, and that area gets shady late at night.

If the Sosua we know becomes family tourist friendly will the hotels then become non chica friendly? If they shut down Rumbas that was involved as community sponsors, why wouldn't they eventually go after Amvee?

Riding a moto from the Amvee to the casino is a dark loney ride at night, walking is out of the question.

I'm sorry but I just don't trust it but we will see what happens.
Sosua is addcted to, and depends on sex tourism dollars.

Politicians would be happy if family tourism could replace the sex tourism business, but that is not happening, at least for now!

So they'll re-arrange the deck chairs, try to keep everybody happy and carry on with business as usual!

When, and if family tourism gradually takes over as the main source of local income, prostitution, although legal, could easily be virtually banned! Simply by zoning and soliciting bylaws. Ticketing hookers, and hassling mongers and bar owners.

We'll see how it all pans out, but in the meantime it's business as usual.

As far as that end of town is concerned, it's no longer a no go zone, a lot of ex pats have apartments in the area, and the new bars with customers, lights, music and Cestur patrols discourage crime. I frequently walk up and down there, sometimes late at night and feel no danger. It has become a beaten track, with the Super Pollo in the area, and makes a nice change from the endless parade of hard core hookers downtown.

At the same time, you can't wander home like a drunken tourist, anywhere in Sosua, as there are always opportunists watching and waiting! The motoconcho guy is your friend!

So, as always, keep a weather eye open, and be safe!

Mr Gogo
10-25-19, 17:23
Sosua is addcted to, and depends on sex tourism dollars.

Politicians would be happy if family tourism could replace the sex tourism business, but that is not happening, at least for now!

So they'll re-arrange the deck chairs, try to keep everybody happy and carry on with business as usual!

When, and if family tourism gradually takes over as the main source of local income, prostitution, although legal, could easily be virtually banned! Simply by zoning and soliciting bylaws. Ticketing hookers, and hassling mongers and bar owners.

We'll see how it all pans out, but in the meantime it's business as usual.

As far as that end of town is concerned, it's no longer a no go zone, a lot of ex pats have apartments in the area, and the new bars with customers, lights, music and Cestur patrols discourage crime. I frequently walk up and down there, sometimes late at night and feel no danger.Thanks for the update Oakie. I haven't been down there in a while so its good to know things have changed. Maybe it will work, but it should be an interesting ride.

OldKool
10-25-19, 20:14
These guys seem to have inside knowledge. Smart money always does. Envee is in the perfect spot for the new Sosua plans. I do not believe in coincidences. Everything they have done has been top shelf when it comes infrastructure. They have to be paying the right people and have very deep pocket.


Bourbon St. Made a deal with the devil that if they moved down to what will become the new red light district they would be given a license to stay open until 5 am As Mr E. Pointed out the new disco will open at Ahnvee also. City Lights is moving into the old High Caribbean building. And so it begins.

Ipanema Carioca
10-26-19, 01:20
These guys seem to have inside knowledge. Smart money always does. Envee is in the perfect spot for the new Sosua plans. I do not believe in coincidences. Everything they have done has been top shelf when it comes infrastructure. They have to be paying the right people and have very deep pocket.Remember how deep the pockets of Bobbie and Peter were and the Dominicans switched up by jailing and exporting before shutting them down? Bourbon St. Will have the script switched on them, and they will be out of business soon.

Oakie
10-26-19, 10:46
Thanks for the update Oakie. I haven't been down there in a while so its good to know things have changed. Maybe it will work, but it should be an interesting ride.Welcome back Mr GoGo. Missed ya!

Looking forward to your take on today's Sosoua as a mongering destination, warts and all.

Let's not get bogged down with comparisons of how it used to be, but rather a fresh look how it compares to the other spots in our Caribbean backyard for the average monger today.

We have a ton of regulars from Holland, Denmark, the U. K. and Germany, so they must be finding something here, they can't get at home!

Charles Pooter
10-26-19, 17:58
We have a ton of regulars from Holland, Denmark, the U. K. and Germany, so they must be finding something here, they can't get at home!Loads of Russians, Swedes, Belgians. Swiss, Austrians and French too. But very few new faces from the UK, I'm afraid. Partly because of the falling pound sterling through Brexit, but mainly because it is hopelessly inconvenient and expensive to get here from the UK. (Apart from to Punta Cana, which is mediocre for mongering).

OldKool
10-27-19, 11:56
My friend on the ground says everything is packed.

SoberHans69
10-27-19, 12:24
Loads of Russians, Swedes, Belgians. Swiss, Austrians and French too. But very few new faces from the UK, I'm afraid. Partly because of the falling pound sterling through Brexit, but mainly because it is hopelessly inconvenient and expensive to get here from the UK. (Apart from to Punta Cana, which is mediocre for mongering).Yeah I was considering a trip here but the logistics of flying from my city, Newcastle, was a total nightmare and very expensive.

Oakie
10-27-19, 16:19
My friend on the ground says everything is packed.Note to newbies.

It's the start of the High Season!

The Sosua Death Watch won't start up again until June to September, the Low Season!

Lol

FortuneWaffers
10-29-19, 20:18
Hi Guys,

Been Posting on the Medellin Thread for a while now. Just came back from there actually, had a great great solo trip as a young looking Asian guy in Medellin, have had great success. Anyone curious, please read my reports there.

Since I managed to Solo Medellin with minimal but an expanding collection of Spanish, I am thinking about other Latin or Spanish speaking countries for my dick to explore, in dept. I have a few questions with regards to what tickles my fancy.

1. Are there Facebook Hoes in the DR similar to how they have in Medellin or Colombia in general?

2. What is the going Gringo-Rate for Todas Las Noches?

3. Is it easy to find a chica friendly AirbNb or how do the motels work here?

4. Optional, I learned not to chase this outside Brazil, but how hard is it to score some anal here?

I don't think Sosua, being its size, will match up to much of the action per capita in Medellin but there are too many Pollocita / Mamacitas / Chimbitas (IDK wtf to use to call Hot women in Spanish anymore in the DR for me to look over this place.

I have no issues Solo'ing venues like El Centro in Medellin for SW's, I can't imagine having much additional trouble if I was to hit the DR for similar action unless any one want to debunk this misconception if I am making one.

DarrenGap
10-31-19, 01:42
Note to newbies.

It's the start of the High Season!

The Sosua Death Watch won't start up again until June to September, the Low Season!

LolOK, so end of January is an entirely sensible time to go?

How is the vibe compared to Santo Domingo?

I have a week end of Jan I was thinking maybe 2 or 3 days SD, then the rest in Sosua.

I like the street scene, brothels, (or massage places etc).

Any tips for hotels near the action, in SD Hotel Riazor has been mentioned, but it seems a bit isolated when I checked streetview. Where should I stay Sosua?

Also in SD is the old colonial part of town the best location for the street chica's? Is there an equivalent of La Rampa in Havana, or maybe like Hotel Del Ray in CR, ie a central place where the girls gather?

In Sosua Is there significant weeknight action. I'm guessing weekends are busy, but what is Monday and Tuesday like for street chicas and the scene. Its a first time visit for me to DR, but given I have so little time don't want to waste a night....

Is the beach still a good scene weekdays? Could I hang there and pick and choose? Plenty of choice?

Looking through the posts is seems the there has been a general clean up by authorities and the girls in Sosua have been chased off the streets and maybe off the beach as well. Is that the case???

Mr Enternational
10-31-19, 03:07
Since I managed to Solo Medellin with minimal but an expanding collection of Spanish, I am thinking about other Latin or Spanish speaking countries This is apples to alligators. Medellin is a big ass city. Tons of place for mongering. The part of Sosua where you will find chicks does not even have a traffic light and it is full of foreigners that came there for the same purpose. When you think of Sosua think of a small beach area and a quiet (compared to Medellin anyway) one way street with a couple of bars and restaurants.

Facebook is a thing unique to Medellin. It does not even work the same in other parts of Colombia.

The prices in Sosua have gotten out of control. You would be looking at $100 at least for all night when it is easy to find in Medellin for $30-$50.

There are plenty of girl friendly hotels in the mongering vicinty that people stay in where you can walk everywhere. I think most airbnbs are outside of this area and you would need transportation back and forth.

I have done back door action with a couple of non-pro chicks in DR. For hookers, I would say you better get some practice looking for needles in haystacks. As well, chicks in Sosua are known for promising one thing before going to the room with you, then when you get to the room it is a totally different story.

The SW action in Sosua is not the same as the SW action in Medellin. Medellin is more of what people think of when they think SW. Chicks in Sosua are only SW in the sense that you would find them walking around. I guess it is all the same thing, but the dynamic is totally different. Where in most cities guys say I am not messing with any nasty SW, guys go to Sosua specifically for that "style" of SW.

Oakie
10-31-19, 10:02
OK, so end of January is an entirely sensible time to go?

How is the vibe compared to Santo Domingo?

I have a week end of Jan I was thinking maybe 2 or 3 days SD, then the rest in Sosua.

I like the street scene, brothels, (or massage places etc).

Any tips for hotels near the action, in SD Hotel Riazor has been mentioned, but it seems a bit isolated when I checked streetview. Where should I stay Sosua?

Also in SD is the old colonial part of town the best location for the street chica's? Is there an equivalent of La Rampa in Havana, or maybe like Hotel Del Ray in CR, ie a central place where the girls gather?

In Sosua Is there significant weeknight action. I'm guessing weekends are busy, but what is Monday and Tuesday like for street chicas and the scene. Its a first time visit for me to DR, but given I have so little time don't want to waste a night....

Is the beach still a good scene weekdays? Could I hang there and pick and choose? Plenty of choice?

Looking through the posts is seems the there has been a general clean up by authorities and the girls in Sosua have been chased off the streets and maybe off the beach as well. Is that the case???January is a good time to monger in Sosua. We have a lot of North Americans, Canadians and Europeans here fleeing their winters. Most are return visitors and regulars.

You'll lots find lots of willing chicas year round here, but the main show starts in October, with peaks before Christmas and around Superbowl time. There are literally hundreds of chicas looking for a hook up, ranging from hardened old hookers to fresh young newbies.

The main zone is only a small strip, so they fill the streets and bars at night, and on weekends it's hard to navigate the sidewalks. You'll find some patrolling the main beach during the afternoons. There are lots of bars off the strip too, but most mongers love to post up on the main drag and watch the show!

The cops generally look out for well behaved tourists, and sporadically clear the streets of hookers, but in 15 minutes it's usually back to normal.

The thing about Sosua is that prostitution is legal, and there are no mamasans, pimps or bar fines to negotiate. No third floor walk ups, where you take your chances with who might be available. You don't need a social dating app to find them. The chicas are around in numbers so you can see them up close and personal, and chat with them.

Your only problem is who to choose, a cheap hungry hardcore one who stops you on the street and shows you her stuff, to the more reserved, and less experienced ones sitting in the bar with her girlfriends. Accordingly the prices vary, as does their level of aggressiveness. We all like something different. Aside from their attempts to upsell you, it is a relatively safe environment, but don't carry or leave anything around in your room, that you can't afford to lose! They are poor, and opportunistic, and to them you are rich!

The favorite GF friendly hotels are all in or near the main drag, Sosua Suites, Europa, New Garden, Terra Linda and Casa Valeria, and others that are mentioned in the Hotel Forum, which range in price from 50 to 90 a night.

As for SD vs Sosua, SD is a big city with lots of other stuff going on, Sosua is a small party town with nice beaches and restaurants and lots of chicas, all within a 10 minute walk.

Good luck. Let us know!

FortuneWaffers
10-31-19, 11:51
This is apples to alligators. Medellin is a big ass city. Tons of place for mongering. The part of Sosua where you will find chicks does not even have a traffic light and it is full of foreigners that came there for the same purpose. When you think of Sosua think of a small beach area and a quiet (compared to Medellin anyway) one way street with a couple of bars and restaurants.

Facebook is a thing unique to Medellin. It does not even work the same in other parts of Colombia.

The prices in Sosua have gotten out of control. You would be looking at $100 at least for all night when it is easy to find in Medellin for $30-$50.

There are plenty of girl friendly hotels in the mongering vicinty that people stay in where you can walk everywhere. I think most airbnbs are outside of this area and you would need transportation back and forth.

I have done back door action with a couple of non-pro chicks in DR. For hookers, I would say you better get some practice looking for needles in haystacks. As well, chicks in Sosua are known for promising one thing before going to the room with you, then when you get to the room it is a totally different story..Big Thanks. I think I will skip this place for now.

Brother P
10-31-19, 18:05
Big Thanks. I think I will skip this place for now.Mr. E is the OG! Much respect!

I just came back on 10/6 from a 12 day trip. I didn't pay over 2500 pesos. Had good sessions. Yes, many chicas will now ask for 100 $. But plenty will take 2500. You've been doing Medellin, you must speak some Spanish. Make some small talk, tell her what you want and how much YOU pay. If she asks for more tell her no gracias mucho gusto and walk away. Sosua isn't Medellin, but it's a good time.

Small town, you can walk everywhere, nice beach. Plenty of other travelers to hang with. Worth a visit in my opinion. Peace!

FortuneWaffers
10-31-19, 18:45
Mr. E is the OG! Much respect!

I just came back on 10/6 from a 12 day trip. I didn't pay over 2500 pesos. Had good sessions. Yes, many chicas will now ask for 100 $. But plenty will take 2500. You've been doing Medellin, you must speak some Spanish. Make some small talk, tell her what you want and how much YOU pay. If she asks for more tell her no gracias mucho gusto and walk away. Sosua isn't Medellin, but it's a good time.

Small town, you can walk everywhere, nice beach. Plenty of other travelers to hang with. Worth a visit in my opinion. Peace!The Size of Sosua and what it is seems more fitting for a weekend getaway. Medellin is more my Nuremberg-track at this point. I like the variety of venues and options.

DarrenGap
11-01-19, 01:08
January is a good time to monger in Sosua. ...

Good luck. Let us know!Thanks man, sounds like my kinda town, drift around a bit, have a beer, chat to girl, ascertain chemistry and attitude etc. Retire to lodgings in time honored manner.

Glad to know I'll have plenty to choose from. CTG in 2005 was good, Cuba in 2000's, even Costa Rica evening time in Gringo Gulch was good. This sounds like it is up there with those highlights.

Oakie
11-01-19, 14:08
Thanks man, sounds like my kinda town, drift around a bit, have a beer, chat to girl, ascertain chemistry and attitude etc. Retire to lodgings in time honored manner.
.You're welcome.

You have already hit on, what in my opinion, is the key to success with Sosua chicas. "have a beer, chat to girl, ascertain chemistry and attitude etc. ".

Some mongers limit their initial interaction with a chica, to negotiations on price. But for the price of a drink, or a slice of pizza, you can interview her in depth. That's actually for me part of the fun. She's a freelance so you don't pay for her time.

You can get a good feel for her attitude, is she in a god awful hurry? Always looking at her phone? Does she order a Hennessy? Personal hygiene?. If the chemistry doesn't seem right you can move on to the next, There's always a next!

Taking a strange third world hooker back to your room, always has a little risk attached, but a well traveled guy, who takes a little time, can reduce those risks mightily!

Mr Gogo
11-01-19, 22:44
I was sitting on the malecon drinking a presidente light before I went up to pack and get ready for our road trip to Sosua and Cabarette at 7 am in the morning. Oh shit, the fellas pulled out a bottle of Johnny walker so now our 7 am departure is jeopardized. I played it safe and went to my room to pack and watch Dolemite on my android TV box kodi.

At 6 am the crew was up and getting ready and we departed at 7:36 am (what a surprise). Well the surprise was on us as it took us 45 minutes to finally maneuver the SD traffic and hit the open road. The trip was uneventful except the Santiago bypass gave us some problems.

Checked in my hotel (more on the hotel when I leave). Went to the treehouse on the beach and greeted Sherman. At 1 pm the parade started and I had a hamburger, two waters and a pinacolada sin alcohol for 524 pesos.

I finally took a tour of the town to confirm what I saw. Damn Sosua is full of fat girls and even fatter dudes. Dudes outnumbered the girls. I saw crackhead, pregnant girls and one girl even had a cast on her left leg. Ask a girl her name and she showed you her ass first. I kid you not. I must have seen 100 girls and only five girls above a 7. What the fuck happened to Sosua?

OK this is the day crew and it is the third string so hopefully Sosua will shine tonight.

BTW, the jazz festival is Friday night at 8 pm at playa Alicia. Saturday and Sunday in cabarette.

OldKool
11-01-19, 23:50
Had 3 girls this week text me on whatap that they had not eaten in 3 days. Please feed me popi.

Mr Enternational
11-02-19, 04:00
Damn Sosua is full of fat girls and even fatter dudes. Dudes outnumbered the girls. I saw crackhead, pregnant girls and one girl even had a cast on her left leg. Ask a girl her name and she showed you her ass first. I kid you not.Well what did you expect with Old Kool always wanting to feed hoes at Bailey's and all.
Had 3 girls this week text me on whatap that they had not eaten in 3 days. Please feed me popi.

Mr Gogo
11-02-19, 04:38
Reporting from the Old el flow now as I hope to find something good. Might be a date with Cuba libres tonight. Got some good intel from guys that live here. I'm going to break down the state of Sosua when I get time. The game is no longer in Sosua. Wassap and the "Villa Boys" have stolen all the quality out of Sosua. And an OG said the Sosua pussy no longer has culture. More later.

Mr Gogo
11-02-19, 15:39
I feel like a parent who has to put his child up for adoption or having to put a family dog to sleep after 15 years.

Started the night at 8 pm at the jazz festival on playa Alicia. Great international talent, great eye candy with a nice mixture of upscale locals and tourists. Drinks were expensive and the ocean back drop set the scene nicely.

At 10 pm the strip called me and off I went. Posted up at the old El Flow because they had the Lakers vs Dallas game on the tube. The police were chasing the girls so they would run but be laughing like it was a game of tag. No never seen as many cops as last night.

The girls: Long fake eyelashes, tight spandex shorts stuffed up their ass cracks and showing their camel toes, no underwear, fake ponytails, beer bellies with no shame, toes and nails done cheaply etc. Waited but couldn't find anything early to my liking.

Was watching the game when I saw Joe on the other side of the street. Hit him on wassap and he joined me. Joe is an OG (veteran). Lived in Charmicos 15 years ago but now lives in San Isidro in SD. Tall, dark skinned, 67 yo, kango hat and nicely dressed. We both took in the scene and compared notes as I picked his brain. He said he was glad the jazz festival was only in Sosua for one day before moving to Cabarette because he couldn't take but one night of this circus with elephants, bears and horses. He also said the young dudes had taken over and were disrespectful. They called him pops and told him they don't care how Sosua once was. They said it was now their Sosua as they had taken over.

After Joe left the police again were chasing girls and this fine light skinned Haitian was standing in front of me. I gave her the once over from top to bottom. No tattoos, nice toes and pretty light brown skin. She saw this and asked what? I said I had to give her a ten and she smiled and gave me a handshake. I grabbed her hand and flipped it to see her hand more closely and she had the hands of a truck driver. I told her she was now a 7 as she snatched her hands back in embarrassment. She used this opportunity to sit down next to me so I asked how much money she wanted. She replied 3 k for one hour 4 k for two. Our conversation was over then as I turned my attention back to the circus. She asked what the problem was? I told her it was late and raining and* if she said 3 k for the rest of the night it would have been a better representation but she said they only do hourly. I explained further that she lives alone and wouldn't you want to spend the night in my nice apartment and then she said OK for 5 k. Fuck this I then crossed the street to hangout with the guys I came with at the old Rumba spot.

Went up to Flame at midnight. Flame is the bar across from Classicos and I always post up in the window with the Classicos view. OK, I'm seeing the good talent now going into classicos, some 9 and 10's. * Saw two beautiful Venezuelan girls come out and jump on the back of a motochoncho, probably the Villa boys have put in a wassap request.

The Villa boys are the big ballers LOL. They come in groups and pay top dollar for villas with pool usually in casa Linda. They have the best girls at a premium price.

Anyway I'm at Flame and the owner Vaughn came over and shook my hand. Vaughn is a smooth dude so I picked his brain. He said the police have scared the premium talent away from walking the strip and they are now only working the back channels (wassap, Dominican cupid).

Wound up seeing a nice Haitian posted up across from New Garden and she said 2 k for TLN. Squirting tits and good energy.

Sosua is now for the newbies only fellas, especially when you remember the talent that used to be there.

Even further proof: The white euro guys and even the Dominican guys numbers have decreased significantly, like they have abandoned this low energy circus.

Even further proof: a young dude that lives in Sosua and they are saying the old farts are fucking up the game and they have are now running Sosua. They show photos of girls with big asses and horse faces.

In summary: Some blame the cops, some blame the NY dudes, others say the Villa boys and wassap are to blame but to me its time to put Rover (the dog) to sleep.

P.S. Sosua is still fun but I challenge any vet who has been coming to Sosua to tell me the street talent hasn't fallen off.

PeeWeeHerman
11-03-19, 03:15
Sosua seems completely fucked. I believe I am part of the "new wave" of younger dudes who have come and ruined this place. Not me personally, but I am well aware of the type that has flocked to this place with the popularity boom of travel, cheapness of flights, and proliferation of websites like these which have been inviting new people to come to Sosua. My flight from NYC was only 212 $ into STI plus a 60 dollar cab ride. Lots of dope dealer and "baller" younger Northeastern USA guys who have never seen a prostitute before losing their minds over the big asses. I can also attest that these guys have little respect for the older mongers and some actually think this stuff only started a few years ago.

I am a 30 yr old fit and tall male from the NYC area who has been to multiple other monger locations, and traveled extensively otherwise. I've been to Sosua once previously, Boca Chica twice, and I will have to say now that I will likely not be coming back to Sosua ever again. I understand that it has a legendary reputation and major following amongst some older mongers, but newbies would be much better served taking their money to Cartagena or elsewhere for a better first time point and click experience, especially for SWs.

The quality of girls at the Clocktower and in the nearby free clubs in Cartagena beats all of Sosua as far as I can see it. Colombians are also a little less pushy when it comes to trying to sell you shit.

The street talent in Sosua has dropped dramatically, and Tinder and the rest of the apps have flaky girls asking for 5 K and up on average. Let's not forget the "leche papi leche papi" when you are four strokes in.

I remember coming back in March of this year it wasn't this bad, but now the girls are disgusting.

Trashy outfits on money grubbing chicas. Can I also tell you about the number of unashamed diseased ridden girls walking around, and misrepresenting themselves on the dating apps? I met up with a chica I spoke to for two months before coming on Tinder, and she showed up to my apartment with a massive herpes sore on her bottom lip and was upset I didn't want to have sex with her! Herpes and cold sores are definitely a theme here as I was approached by a few clearly infected girls near Classicos!

I know it is common, but something of a major boner kill! Will never BB in this place or anywhere else as I enjoy my smooth bump free penis and lips. I am very happy that my spanish has improved so I can start to communicate with regular girls more, because the SW talent is garbage tier here in Sosua.

I have been here since Thursday and only been with three girls, best was a 6/10 Haitian girl with a fucking face tattoo! I am into SWs, but much prefer what you get in Brazil or Colombia.

The beach in Sosua is shit, and with the death of the street scene I cannot see much value here for anyone. Spanish speakers would be better served taking their language skills to somewhere else, this place has severely dropped in quality and rapidly increasing in price.

Averaging 3 K for short time for girls after around 1 AM. Can get all night for the same, but will depend on the chica as some may want to leave and some may want to sleep in a nicer place.

As of this moment girl quality is so low, I believe this may be my first mongering trip I am coming back home with money in my pocket. I am not trying to hate on this place, maybe it is a bad week or the police crackdown is just in full effect but I am not enjoying myself as much as other places.

Mr Gogo
11-03-19, 04:03
Currently siting at the old Rumbas waiting for the Canelo fight surveying the strip and the selection is a little better probably because I don't see the strong police presence like last night. * Miguel is strong on the door also so no street rats allowed.

The girls look fresh and are ready for Saturday night.

Its some honeys out tonight but lots if dudes.

Lets talk some positives: Even with all these dudes and wolfpacks I haven't seen not one argument. Everyone seems at peace and having a good time. There is a lot of new developments in Sosua. The known street hustlers have toned down there hustle. Matter of fact one popular street hustler was seen last week on YouTube and Facebook going to jail for fighting in Sosua (Dominican vs Dominican) . If you have been to Sosua you have seen him. Two popular business owners say they arent being forced to move down to the Ahnvee end. The beach vendors say business is good. Puerto Plata is experiencing an influx of new American expats that used to frequent Sosua.

With all the negative international press, Sosua seems to be booming as more weekend millionaires are coming and spending. It seems the newbies who claim to now run Sosua are spending money. Quality is down but the fat girls appear to be eating good LOL.

Turgid
11-03-19, 14:09
..........The beach in Sosua is shit............I am not one to advertise Sosua but it is difficult to take you seriously when you say this. I love Sosua beach, the water is lovely and enjoyable and swimming and cavorting there was always a major part of my escapades.

Oakie
11-03-19, 14:26
I feel like a parent who has to put his child up for adoption or having to put a family dog to sleep after 15 years.

Started the night at 8 pm at the jazz festival on playa Alicia. Great international talent, great eye candy with a nice mixture of upscale locals and tourists. Drinks were expensive and the ocean back drop set the scene nicely.

At 10 pm the strip called me and off I went. Posted up at the old El Flow because they had the Lakers vs Dallas game on the tube. The police were chasing the girls so they would run but be laughing like it was a game of tag. No never seen as many cops as last night.

The girls: Long fake eyelashes, tight spandex shorts stuffed up their ass cracks and showing their camel toes, no underwear, fake ponytails, beer bellies with no shame, toes and nails done cheaply etc. Waited but couldn't find anything early to my liking.

Was watching the game when I saw Joe on the other side of the street. Hit him on wassap and he joined me. Joe is an OG (veteran). Lived in Charmicos 15 years ago but now lives in San Isidro in SD. Tall, dark skinned, 67 yo, kango hat and nicely dressed. We both took in the scene and compared notes as I picked his brain. He said he was glad the jazz festival was only in Sosua for one day before moving to Cabarette because he couldn't take but one night of this circus with elephants, bears and horses. He also said the young dudes had taken over and were disrespectful. They called him pops and told him they don't care how Sosua once was. They said it was now their Sosua as they had taken over.

After Joe left the police again were chasing girls and this fine light skinned Haitian was standing in front of me. I gave her the once over from top to bottom. No tattoos, nice toes and pretty light brown skin. She saw this and asked what? I said I had to give her a ten and she smiled and gave me a handshake. I grabbed her hand and flipped it to see her hand more closely and she had the hands of a truck driver. I told her she was now a 7 as she snatched her hands back in embarrassment. She used this opportunity to sit down next to me so I asked how much money she wanted. She replied 3 k for one hour 4 k for two. Our conversation was over then as I turned my attention back to the circus. She asked what the problem was? I told her it was late and raining and* if she said 3 k for the rest of the night it would have been a better representation but she said they only do hourly. I explained further that she lives alone and wouldn't you want to spend the night in my nice apartment and then she said OK for 5 k. Fuck this I then crossed the street to hangout with the guys I came with at the old Rumba spot.

Went up to Flame at midnight. Flame is the bar across from Classicos and I always post up in the window with the Classicos view. OK, I'm seeing the good talent now going into classicos, some 9 and 10's. * Saw two beautiful Venezuelan girls come out and jump on the back of a motochoncho, probably the Villa boys have put in a wassap request.

The Villa boys are the big ballers LOL. They come in groups and pay top dollar for villas with pool usually in casa Linda. They have the best girls at a premium price.

Anyway I'm at Flame and the owner Vaughn came over and shook my hand. Vaughn is a smooth dude so I picked his brain. He said the police have scared the premium talent away from walking the strip and they are now only working the back channels (wassap, Dominican cupid).

Wound up seeing a nice Haitian posted up across from New Garden and she said 2 k for TLN. Squirting tits and good energy.

Sosua is now for the newbies only fellas, especially when you remember the talent that used to be there.

Even further proof: The white euro guys and even the Dominican guys numbers have decreased significantly, like they have abandoned this low energy circus.

Even further proof: a young dude that lives in Sosua and they are saying the old farts are fucking up the game and they have are now running Sosua. They show photos of girls with big asses and horse faces.

In summary: Some blame the cops, some blame the NY dudes, others say the Villa boys and wassap are to blame but to me its time to put Rover (the dog) to sleep.

P.S. Sosua is still fun but I challenge any vet who has been coming to Sosua to tell me the street talent hasn't fallen off.The talent has moved around a little since you were last there! And, they all have smart phones now! A lot wouldn't be caught dead on the main drag after 5 pm.

But your report is all over the place, and hard to follow!

So which is it MR GoGo?

Your "good intel" sources said "the young dudes had taken over", and the other one says, "the old farts are fucking up the game and they are now running Sosua".

Then you blame the "NY dudes, others say the Villa boys", and newbies!

That covers just about all the folks you'll ever see in Sosua, lol

Then you say it's "booming". So it must be booming with the regular crowd, old farts, young dudes, NY dudes, Villa boys, and newbies! Maybe they are not getting your "good intel" lol

Anyway I assumed you've gone back immediately to SD, because you are too smart to spend good money in such a shithole! lol

Mr Gogo
11-03-19, 14:54
Hey Oakie,

Sorry for the mix up but I was reporting from the strip, sipping a Cuba libre and watching the game. Not as formal as from reporting at home. I think I said the young guy said the old guy was fucking up the game and they (The young guys) were now running things. I don't think I ever said one city, NY guys, screwed up the game. I think I relayed what some were saying. The Miami, Chicago, LA etc guys all ball out. I came with 300 usd and didn't have to go to the ATM once which is a first. You are very smart to not visit Sosua after 5 pm, I will follow you and do the same in the future. Peace.

Brother P
11-03-19, 18:14
I am not one to advertise Sosua but it is difficult to take you seriously when you say this. I love Sosua beach, the water is lovely and enjoyable and swimming and cavorting there was always a major part of my escapades.I also think sosua beach is quite nice! Pretty, chill, fun! I usually hit at least 2 places. Have a beer, chat with friends, enjoy the view and the eye candy. I rarely miss a day on the beach when I'm there.

I just cam back a month ago. Had a great time, added a couple of chicas to the team, and didn't pay more than 2500. The day time can be weak. The better looking chicas tend to wait and hit merengue and Classico. So if you don't have contacts you have to wait. But I can't wait to get back. I have 2 friends who just moved there and their quite happy! LOL. But to each his own. Gogo is my bro!

Mr Gogo
11-03-19, 18:47
I also think sosua beach is quite nice! Pretty, chill, fun! I usually hit at least 2 places. Have a beer, chat with friends, enjoy the view and the eye candy. I rarely miss a day on the beach when I'm there.

I just cam back a month ago. Had a great time, added a couple of chicas to the team, and didn't pay more than 2500. The day time can be weak. The better looking chicas tend to wait and hit merengue and Classico. So if you don't have contacts you have to wait. But I can't wait to get back. I have 2 friends who just moved there and their quite happy! LOL. But to each his own. Gogo is my bro!Always down bro. What we need is more guys reporting no matter how they feel. You always do a report and tell us what is happening in Sosua. The Sosua board had Bern dry lately, hopefully my report will creste dialog not arguments.

Tempoecorto
11-03-19, 19:33
To hear that people are leaving in droves would be good news for an old fart like me. I have not had any use of the main drag or the clubs in a long time, have had no problem about high money demands or bait and switch and so forth that people lament about constantly, or about finding suitable talent. Food is good and people at large are friendly and the place is small. I only wish flights were not this bloody pricey, to even get to STI for a quick weekend.

John Gault
11-03-19, 23:02
Reporting from the Old el flow now as I hope to find something good. Might be a date with Cuba libres tonight. Got some good intel from guys that live here. I'm going to break down the state of Sosua when I get time. The game is no longer in Sosua. Wassap and the "Villa Boys" have stolen all the quality out of Sosua. And an OG said the Sosua pussy no longer has culture. More later.Just like face book is killing things in MDE. All the lazy mongers are using the internet to find girls, and they are paying thru the nose.

ShooBree
11-04-19, 00:40
The talent has moved around a little since you were last there! And, they all have smart phones now! A lot wouldn't be caught dead on the main drag after 5 pm.

But your report is all over the place, and hard to follow!

So which is it MR GoGo?

Your "good intel" sources said "the young dudes had taken over", and the other one says, "the old farts are fucking up the game and they are now running Sosua".

Then you blame the "NY dudes, others say the Villa boys", and newbies!

That covers just about all the folks you'll ever see in Sosua, lol

Then you say it's "booming". So it must be booming with the regular crowd, old farts, young dudes, NY dudes, Villa boys, and newbies! Maybe they are not getting your "good intel" lol

Anyway I assumed you've gone back immediately to SD, because you are too smart to spend good money in such a shithole! lolWhat I don't get is this part: "Went up to Flame at midnight. Flame is the bar across from Classicos and I always post up in the window with the Classicos view. OK, I'm seeing the good talent now going into classicos, some 9 and 10's. * Saw two beautiful Venezuelan girls come out and jump on the back of a motochoncho, probably the Villa boys have put in a wassap request."

That sounds fckn great too me! 9's and 10's, why didn't he go into Classicos?

I'm genuinely curious since it seems to be some great talent in Sosua.

Mr Gogo
11-04-19, 02:31
What I don't get is this part: "Went up to Flame at midnight. Flame is the bar across from Classicos and I always post up in the window with the Classicos view. OK, I'm seeing the good talent now going into classicos, some 9 and 10's. * Saw two beautiful Venezuelan girls come out and jump on the back of a motochoncho, probably the Villa boys have put in a wassap request."

That sounds fckn great too me! 9's and 10's, why didn't he go into Classicos?

I'm genuinely curious since it seems to be some great talent in Sosua.Why not ask me that question? I'm not paying the Venezuelan prices in Sosua. On Friday night at midnight in Classicos those 9's and 10's are the premium girls at the premium hour and I'm not pressed to over pay for pussy. I would rather pay a humble appreciative Haitian 2 k at 1 am for TLN rather than some uppity, 9 or 10 that will expect top dollar for an hour. IMO the 9's and 10's are usually lousy fucks.

I don't like to be in packed crowds hence me sitting alone from my roomy stoop at Flame. And last, I don't do hourly fucks.

Any more questions?

Mr Enternational
11-04-19, 04:45
Just like face book is killing things in MDE. All the lazy mongers are using the internet to find girls, and they are paying thru the nose.Is this like all the lazy shoppers using Amazon to find their goods and paying through the nose? I thought the internet has made it easier to get products (including pussy) at reduced prices. There is little overhead and less middlemen to get a cut, in effect keeping prices down. With thousands of chicks in one location at your fingertips, you can click on the next chick way faster that you can get your ass up and over to that next bar with 5 chicks to choose from.

Oakie
11-04-19, 11:20
Hey Oakie,

Sorry for the mix up but I was reporting from the strip, sipping a Cuba libre and watching the game. Not as formal as from reporting at home. I think I said the young guy said the old guy was fucking up the game and they (The young guys) were now running things. I don't think I ever said one city, NY guys, screwed up the game. I think I relayed what some were saying. The Miami, Chicago, LA etc guys all ball out. I came with 300 usd and didn't have to go to the ATM once which is a first. You are very smart to not visit Sosua after 5 pm, I will follow you and do the same in the future. Peace.Nothing personal here, Mr GoGo, you are still my muse!

You got me here in the first place with your positive Sosua Reports 10 years ago, and you are right on that it has changed a lot since then. Some folks have moved on, and others have taken their place!

This board is like a NFL Team site. We have fans of Team Sosua, and fans of other teams, it's all good!

It was you who issued a "challenge" in your post, and as a fan, I had to respond.

I got a "family" of regulars down here, one 7, a couple of 8's and two 10's, who are based in PP, Cab and SD. My main lady is the 7, she's totally dedicated, domesticated, always cooks for the gang, and a smart momma to the others. We all party together on weekends at their places or mine, and we all sleep happily in the same couple rooms, sometimes in the same bed, where I get to fuck the others too, and if I'm too tired, sometimes they fuck each other. LOL. We party on the beach and at night at our two or three local bars, and everybody has a good time. They are not into the Classico, or main drag stuff. Our group toast is "Correcto, Respecto, Perfecto!", and no drama is allowed!

I know my local bar/restaurant owners here and don't have to be running off to an ATM, I can just leave the tab and pay later! Try that at home, Lol

Then I get 3 or 4 days during the week to chill, read, walk, swim, watch sports, computer, and hang out with local buddies, and other amigas to keep some respecto independence! When you actually live here, you can really get organized. Things here are so good for me that for the first time in 10 years, I allowed my son to join me for a couple weeks. He was impressed by how my Sosua "family" keep me happy and healthy here, and young, on a limited budget!

My only complaint about Sosua is the heat, but for me this is the life!

Love ya, man!

GrownMan1
11-05-19, 07:45
Why not ask me that question? I'm not paying the Venezuelan prices in Sosua. On Friday night at midnight in Classicos those 9's and 10's are the premium girls at the premium hour and I'm not pressed to over pay for pussy. I would rather pay a humble appreciative Haitian 2 k at 1 am for TLN rather than some uppity, 9 or 10 that will expect top dollar for an hour. IMO the 9's and 10's are usually lousy fucks.

I don't like to be in packed crowds hence me sitting alone from my roomy stoop at Flame. And last, I don't do hourly fucks.

Any more questions?There are some of us that just goes after the 9's and the 10's Regardless of what vibes they're giving off. IMO More seasoned vets Won't jump headfirst into the crowd they will lay back and read the vibes. Gogo knew what those chicas vibes were. Those girls were getting paid and expect to be paid based on their looks. And they are getting their money and their attitude reflects it.

They are there giving guys the girl of their dreams. I can't hate on them. I always say when you start mongering you get the chica of your dreams. Then that wears off and you realize you rather have the girl you could have fun with. Those very pretty chicas get mechanical real fast.

Brother P
11-05-19, 12:42
Why not ask me that question? I'm not paying the Venezuelan prices in Sosua. On Friday night at midnight in Classicos those 9's and 10's are the premium girls at the premium hour and I'm not pressed to over pay for pussy. I would rather pay a humble appreciative Haitian 2 k at 1 am for TLN rather than some uppity, 9 or 10 that will expect top dollar for an hour. IMO the 9's and 10's are usually lousy fucks.

I don't like to be in packed crowds hence me sitting alone from my roomy stoop at Flame. And last, I don't do hourly fucks.

Any more questions?The Venezuelonas definitely seem to have agreed amongst themselves to charge 3 k short term with chupa con condom. I'm not paying it. Much better options from haitians and even some Dominicanas. Your experience will vary depending upon your people skills and your Spanish. I like merengue, but I don't do classico every weekend. When I do an hour is good enough for me. I agree it gets way too crowded. I'll let the weekend dudes live out their rap video fantasy! LOL. Peace.

Mr Gogo
11-05-19, 14:28
About 3 years ago I caught this Venezolana fresh off the boat for 1 k in BC. She would be walking the beach with four other girls selling candy, liquor and some kind of desert. They seemed nervous and shy but one was a little older (32) and she caught my fancy. I would stop her every pass she made till she finally remembered my name. The next day I saw her in the street and we talked. She had been there a few days and lived in a one bedroom apartment with the four girls. We traded numbers, I think they all shared the same two phones and I was able to lure her to my hotel to have a beer with me but she also brought her fat friend. After a few beers I offered her 1 k to spend some time in my apartment while her friend waited in the front bar area.

She was shy in the room and the sex wasn't good but I was happy to have gotten that far. We repeated the same deal for the next three days and the sex got a lot better.

I left and went to the states and came back 2 months later and wow. She was now in SD and told me via wasssp that her fee was 5 k and she also sent photos of friends that were also available. She came down to 4 k but I passed. We just chatted on wassap the next few visits and she was eventually married to a Dominicano to keep from being sent back to her home.

If you can catch a new girl fresh of the boat move fast because they rise quickly. Even the Venezolanas in the Casas don't last long because they eventually build their own client list on the side and guys are paying big for these exotic beautiful girls. So I can imagine what two Venezolanas would cost in Classicos, above my fixed budget retirement LOL.

GrownMan1
11-05-19, 17:48
If you can catch a new girl fresh of the boat move fast because they rise quickly. Even the Venezolanas in the Casas don't last long because they eventually build their own client list on the side and guys are paying big for these exotic beautiful girls. So I can imagine what two Venezolanas would cost in Classicos, above my fixed budget retirement LOL.IMO you have to give it up to the Venezolanas. They have found the perfect location to sell their product at premium prices. They are a rare commodity to us fat pocket itching hard dick Americans.
I've seen guys that will give their left nut to have a notch in the belt for these Chica's. They are in high demand and they can operate independently as most of the Chica's in the Sue. Their prices are higher than the standard local price and they are selling. Totally based on not being Dominican or Haitian. It's not like they have the reputation of the Brazilians when it comes to performance.

Honestly I've only seen a few that made me double look. I think Parkinson said it best. How does a refugee, trying to escape economic and political turmoil run to another country, and set up shop to sell a similar product at a higher than local prices befuddles me. The Haitians are still trying to figure it out.

The DR is a blessing to them and the Americans are there saviors. Anyone that goes to Colombia knows that shit doesn't work in there country. They are not going to set up shop, sell their product at premium prices, and eat better than the Colombians in Colombia.

Mr Gogo
11-05-19, 18:52
I want to thank Oakie, Grownman, Brother P and John Gault for their replies and opinions. I'm back in SD with my girlfriend safely and will fade into my simple life and fade out for awhile. Peace.

Mr Gogo
11-06-19, 01:53
Damn my bad, and Tempoecorto and Mr Eand Peewee Herman

Mr Enternational
11-06-19, 06:24
IMO you have to give it up to the Venezolanas. I think Parkinson said it best. How does a refugee, trying to escape economic and political turmoil run to another country, and set up shop to sell a similar product at a higher than local prices befuddles me. The Haitians are still trying to figure it out.

The DR is a blessing to them and the Americans are there saviors. Anyone that goes to Colombia knows that shit doesn't work in there country. Exactly. Because Surf down in Medellin giving them same hoes $10!

GrownMan1
11-06-19, 09:50
Exactly. Because Surf down in Medellin giving them same hoes $10!What surf had no problems paying 3000 a day.

No wonder he hasn't came back. He's getting 6 to 1 in Medellin.

Manizales911
11-07-19, 03:48
As I write this the military police are shutting down the bars in Sosua. The end is here??

Scotch
11-07-19, 04:37
I guess they're moving all the bars down Past the Europa near the casino.

GrownMan1
11-07-19, 05:52
Sosua
Averaging 3 K for short time for girls after around 1 AM. Can get all night for the same, but will depend on the chica as some may want to leave and some may want to sleep in a nicer place.

As of this moment girl quality is so low, I believe this may be my first mongering trip I am coming back home with money in my pocket. I am not trying to hate on this place, maybe it is a bad week or the police crackdown is just in full effect but I am not enjoying myself as much as other places.Man you paint a very vivid picture. Da Sue sky finally seems to be falling. After so many false alarms. I guess it always will be a spot to pick up chicas. But the quality will nowhere near what it used to be going at its current rate. The last time I was there it was Saturday night. It was five of us coming back from Classico. Only Two of us had made a choice. And that one was offered at the very last moment on the way walking home.

Turgid
11-07-19, 14:02
As I write this the military police are shutting down the bars in Sosua. The end is here??From what I've been reading if not certainly near. I can't believe I'd never see the Sue again. Such great memories.

Oakie
11-07-19, 14:35
As I write this the military police are shutting down the bars in Sosua. The end is here??Can't wait!

No more mongers! No more weekend warriors "spoiling the market".

The chica's will be so appreciative of us ex-pats, that they will lower their prices. And my rent will stop going up every year! lol.

And hopefully, the usual suspects assembling here predicting the End is Nigh, for years now, will have moved on, because it actually happened!

Brother P
11-07-19, 15:21
As I write this the military police are shutting down the bars in Sosua. The end is here??Well change has been slowly approaching for awhile now. I'm not worried. The north coast will always have plenty of chicas. Things may become more chil with out the Santo Domingo chicas. Long as I have the beach I'm good. Might be a little boring but chicas won't be a problem. No worries!

OldKool
11-07-19, 22:17
One of my favs sent a whatap text adviing me that everthing was shut down. My girl is a upscale pro. I have a trip planned for next month. I have enough girls on my phone to have an awesome time but I a waiting to see where everything ends up. The deck is being schuffled I hope I get a wimming hand.


Well change has been slowly approaching for awhile now. I'm not worried. The north coast will always have plenty of chicas. Things may become more chil with out the Santo Domingo chicas. Long as I have the beach I'm good. Might be a little boring but chicas won't be a problem. No worries!

NightWhaler
11-08-19, 21:34
[QUOTE=Oakie;2389897]Can't wait!

No more mongers! No more weekend warriors "spoiling the market".

The chica's will be so appreciative of us ex-pats, that they will lower their prices. And my rent will stop going up every year! lol.

And hopefully, the usual suspects assembling here predicting the End is Nigh, for years now, will have moved on, because it actually happened!

With all due respect, there will be no market without the weekend warriors and mongers. I am not fan of the FNG's and such but don't forget the golden rule of "supply and demand". Let's just hope it does move down the street and continues to have the bars, chicas, and the nightlife myself and others have come to enjoy for so many years. This reminds me of the "booty triangle" as it's called from Help Disco to Copacabana beach to Balcony's and back in Rio we once enjoyed before they decided to "make a difference" and killed it for a whole lot of folks both foreign and domestic. It's never come back and neither have the johns.

Peace,

Oakie
11-08-19, 21:45
With all due respect, there will be no market without the weekend warriors and mongers. I am not fan of the FNG's and such but don't forget the golden rule of "supply and demand". Let's just hope it does move down the street and continues to have the bars, chicas, and the nightlife myself and others have come to enjoy for so many years.

Peace,Just joking Nightwhaler!

Sosua will be serving up fresh pu**y for a while, yet!

NightWhaler
11-08-19, 21:54
Just joking Nightwhaler!

Sosua will be serving up fresh pu**y for a while, yet!I certainly hope so. . :)

Charles Pooter
11-09-19, 03:55
With all due respect, there will be no market without the weekend warriors and mongers.Why not? There was a market before they started arriving in clusters. And a market with cheaper and better quality products.

NightWhaler
11-09-19, 05:24
Why not? There was a market before they started arriving in clusters. And a market with cheaper and better quality products.I can only speak from my personal experience since 2011 when I first visited after Help closed down. So I will take your word for it because I have nothing to compare it to because it has remained pretty much the same since I started visiting. Thank you for the input. Let's hope it makes a rebound in any case.

Peace,

GrownMan1
11-10-19, 19:15
In some business when the service get low the prices go up. When everybody selling the same services prices stay low. Is similar to what's going on in the Sue. Example: because they cut off chicas hanging out on the street selling The same service offered in the clubs; we noticed an increase of asking prices. Most of us are now limited to Classico and the other small bars to buy services. Unless you had a supplier that sold you service at regular prices, you had to submit to what they were asking in the clubs. The chicas unionize and quickly and took advantage of our Limited access to them.

For the Sue as a whole, it's business as usual. For a lot of us vets this is not the Sue we are used to. Vets like Gogo who don't have main contacts in the Sue, can read those high price asking unionize Chica's from a mile away. Before he pay those prices, he would save his money for another time and not buy anything. I can only imagine what Mr. E would say when a chica tells him 3000 pesos for an hour!

The weekend warriors serve their purpose. They came because a lot of chicas would normally don't be in Sosua during the week will come on the weekends. There were enough independent chicas to go around for everyone. The prices were competitive even with the weekend Warriors wasting a lot of money trying to be Ballers.

I remember one time I saw a school bus full of young horny Athletic British guys in Boca Chica headed to the Sue. It had to been about 25 of them. Once we got there I only seen about two or three of them on the strip. The rest were occupied. There were so many chicas that met the demand for services, it was enough for everyone to go around. Oh how I miss the Santiago party chicas that came with their clicks on the weekend.

I've been to the Sue on a normal weekday. It was boring as hell. A lot of Hardcore pros and locals. However they were enough regular guys and ex pats to satisfy the demand. Personally I wouldn't travel 3 1/2 hours to the north coast just to experience what I've noticed during the week day to the Sue. The beach? Well maybe if you're not from the East Coast or an area where there are beaches you might find some stimulation in Sosua's beach.

The only thing Sosua can offer me is the influx of 100's of chicas to sell services at a competing prices. Take that out the equation and anyone that is happy about the weekend warriors not there and want they bring to the table can have that sorry ass city! What type of city would it be if there wasn't sex tourism going on? How many chicas will come on the weekend if they knew that it was only locals and ex-pats living there? I can only imagine that water hole drying up.

On another note, I think it's bittersweet that the bars have been closed. The area needs cleansing. The Chica union needs to be dismantled. I hear many people talk about how the Sue could not survive without sex tourism. All of that talk makes sense, but until Someone with major political And economical influence feel the lightness in their pockets will Things be normalized. For now The vast majority of voting citizens or who's ever in charge is not concerned. The citizens that vote in the Sue have elected their officials to conduct their business as they see fit. They decide on how they want their city to be.

I said it before, I think some major players that have big political and economical influence is trying to rezone The poor developed area that they're trying to make the red light district. Could you imagine the value of property increase once you close down the bars and force them to a particular area? After CMP and passion closed there was no reason To walk past Europa. IMO All of that area dropped in value for pesos on a mil. If you are a smart businessman with inside promises of a rezone area you could buy low and Rent high. We know Dominicans love doing this.

While I feel sorry for a lot of single mothers that provide services for extra cash for their kids especially for the upcoming Christmas season, I understand the current situation involves decisions out of my league.

Mr Enternational
11-10-19, 19:59
Personally I wouldn't travel 3 1/2 hours to the north coast just to experience what I've noticed during the week day to the Sue. The beach?

The only thing Sosua can offer me is the influx of 100's of chicas to sell services at a competing prices. Take that out the equation and anyone that is happy about the weekend warriors not there and want they bring to the table can have that sorry ass city! What type of city would it be if there wasn't sex tourism going on?With all the beautiful beaches in DR, you would have to be off your rocker talking about you are going to Sosua for a beach if there were no hoes there.

I got a buddy that lives here in Thailand that also has a house in Sosua. The other day he was just saying how boring it is around there. The other day my chick in Puerto Plata was saying how she misses me. I asked her what we would do if I come there. She said many things. I said many things my ass, you tell me now. All she could come up with was fuck, eat, and swim at the beach.


I hear many people talk about how the Sue could not survive without sex tourism.Every other city in DR is surviving without sex tourism, why wouldn't Sosua? Mongers always think a city needs them. They thought the same thing about Rio before they closed Help Disco, and Rio has 13 million people.

GrownMan1
11-10-19, 21:07
I got a buddy that lives here in Thailand that also has a house in Sosua. The other day he was just saying how boring it is around there.Two things come to mind. Excuse me for talking but I'm high.

I remember my friend posted a Facebook photo of him in about eight guys in the mountains hiking in Arizona. They look like they were enjoying themselves. Why'all look like you're having a ball but please tell me some women are coming later.

About four of us were on a carnival cruise. We all got a good work out and went straight to the hot tub. I enjoyed myself for about two minutes. We cool but four guys in a hot tub and no Women I'm out.

GrownMan1
11-10-19, 22:50
I said it before, I think some major players that have big political and economical influence is trying to rezone The poor developed area that they're trying to make the red light district. Could you imagine the value of property increase once you close down the bars and force them to a particular area? After CMP and passion closed there was no reason To walk past Europa. IMO All of that area dropped in value for pesos on a mil. If you are a smart businessman with inside promises of a rezone area you could buy low and Rent high. We know Dominicans love doing this.
.OK I see I'm way behind the curve. The clubs High Caribbean and New York Drinks are already out there and open for business in the new red light District. They're located next the police department. Lots of Land are being advertised for the sale next to these locations. IMO Promises had to be made for someone to invest clubs up in this area. Makes me think there won't be any going back to the old ways no time soon. No more sky is falling! The Sue has clouds on the ground.

Thank you for the video Gogo! Definitely bolstered what I was saying.

Ipanema Carioca
11-11-19, 06:56
With all the beautiful beaches in DR, you would have to be off your rocker talking about you are going to Sosua for a beach if there were no hoes there.

I got a buddy that lives here in Thailand that also has a house in Sosua. The other day he was just saying how boring it is around there. The other day my chick in Puerto Plata was saying how she misses me. I asked her what we would do if I come there. She said many things. I said many things my ass, you tell me now. All she could come up with was fuck, eat, and swim at the beach.

Every other city in DR is surviving without sex tourism, why wouldn't Sosua? Mongers always think a city needs them. They thought the same thing about Rio before they closed Help Disco, and Rio has 13 million people.Sosua is not a city, it's a small pueblo, or a village. Everything bad about the DR is amplified in Sosua, like poor water supply, poor sewage, poor electric grid, too many people below the DR poverty line, few jobs, low tax revenue, and etc. Tourism of any kind keeps Sosua alive. Personally, I don't need the club scene to get sex in Sosua, because there are plenty of women there who work regular jobs and need extra money. Hell, the women rather fuck a foreigner for extra money then fuck a Dominican for free, so who are we fooling about changes in Sosua?

GrownMan1
11-12-19, 02:36
who are we fooling about changes in Sosua?I guess you're right. Chicas Will always go there looking for gringos And guys will always go there with dineros in search of the chicas looking for them. It's an international known understanding. The only ones that will have problems or people like me who are used to that all set up. While I will be complaining about everything being so spread out; a newbie will be ready to hit the clubs and jump headfirst in.

While I'm complaining about not being able to walk from the club to my room; a newbie has paid 300 pesos for a ride with his Chica of choice for the night. For the Su its business as usual. I liked the Sue for its good and bad. Don't think I will ever go back there unless I'm showing a newbie. I can do Puerto Plata for that set up. But The Sue losing me is like losing your number one chica. Replace her with two more that can appreciate it.
And the beat goes on!

Mr Enternational
11-12-19, 03:29
Tourism of any kind keeps Sosua alive.Sosua is not going anywhere. Maybe the monger party version of Sosua is going somewhere. What keeps Gaspar Hernandez, Rio San Juan, Cabrera, and Nagua alive? They don't have that kind of tourism and even less sex tourism.


Personally, I don't need the club scene to get sex in Sosua, because there are plenty of women there who work regular jobs and need extra money.That goes for damn near anywhere. One does not need to travel all the way to Sosua to find chicks to fuck for extra money. It was the open air brothel that drew people there. Same as Rio. Kill the open air brothel and the majority of mongers that were going before no longer go there.

Brother P
11-12-19, 14:59
Sosua is not going anywhere. Maybe the monger party version of Sosua is going somewhere. What keeps Gaspar Hernandez, Rio San Juan, Cabrera, and Nagua alive? They don't have that kind of tourism and even less sex tourism.

That goes for damn near anywhere. One does not need to travel all the way to Sosua to find chicks to fuck for extra money. It was the open air brothel that drew people there. Same as Rio. Kill the open air brothel and the majority of mongers that were going before no longer go there.Yea. Some mongers think the pueblo will die without them. Not true. Some bars and restaurants will close without them, but the town won't dry up and go away. Too many expats and snowbirds. Myself and most of my crew don't really care what they close. We all speak some Spanish and can make moves without the strip. 2 friends of mine moved there just before the closures and they haven't missed a beat! LOL.

I'm not sure this ahnvee set up will last. She may turn on them. I'm already seeing too many videos from there. Seems to me that's exactly what they don't want. These new mongers can't be discreet it seems. We shall see!

OldKool
11-12-19, 18:01
It seems everyone is adjusting to the new rules.

New clubs are drawing nice crowds. I have spoken to guys and girls on the ground. No one is complaining. I am a few weeks from testing the water. This does make reconsider where to stay and eat.

Sammon
11-12-19, 22:23
Just back from Sosua.

Big bars and disco closed in Main Street. But small bar / restaurants are open. Casino closer to the beach is open but the disco there is closed. Girls are not walking the streets like before. Police and Army people everywhere checking discos. They are making sure security is stringent in checking cedula.

Ahnee resort has a bar near the pool and disco at the back. Lots of girls. High caribe is open few girls there. Playa Chiquita has a disco and many girls there. All girls make the rounds between these three places. Supposedly entertainment venue is being built next to high Caribbean. Nobody knows when it will be finished. All the businesses on Main Street are complaining because of lack of business. Crowd and girls are down in numbers. Most girls I saw are ugly and old.

I got lucky to get a nicely proportioned girl from La Vega. Friendly with good attitude. But her snatch smelled little. But since I used condom no issues.

LT was 4000. I had some girls for ST for 2000. None are real pretty. Just great bodies with big boobs. They all say they are 25 years old but obviously older. La Vega girl is half way pretty. She gave me good service including BBBJ long time.

There were few stuck up Venezuela girls but I did not talk to them. Also went to kviar disco in Puerto Plata. Plenty of good looking girls but hard to make out who is available. Did talk to couple but they wanted 8000 all night. Took the La Vega girl to cabarete beach and had a good time. She wanted to give her number but I told her no need. Unless somebody is real pretty I do not want contact info.

My time is spent driving around, gambling, beach, food. The British guy who runs a restaurant on the way to the beach gave me a very good deal on lobster and fish. Good food. You cannot miss it because he has many British flags outside. Roads are good and re surfaced. Daytime is practically dead because no girls are walking around. Did not see many at the beach either or they were ugly and not worth a second look.

For a casual visitor sex is available if he settles for any pussy. Sosua is not dead.

GrownMan1
11-13-19, 15:43
Just back from Sosua.

Big bars and disco closed in Main Street. Girls are not walking the streets like before. Police and Army people everywhere checking discos.

Ahnee High caribe Playa Chiquita girls make the rounds between these three places. Supposedly entertainment venue is being built next to high Caribbean. Crowd and girls are down in numbers. Most girls I saw are ugly and old.

There were few stuck up Venezuela girls.

For a casual visitor sex is available if he settles for any pussy. Sosua is not dead.Thank you for the first fresh report since the changes. It is exactly how I envision the changes would effect The normal flow. IMO The police and the military will not be going anywhere anytime soon until the transition is completed and normal flow of action is fully adjusted to the new designated area. Promises have been made with the military and police on board.

Like mr. E said the only changes that will take place is The Party version most of us are accustomed to. For people like Olskool and Brother P this report is an understanding pre-warning adjustment. Then there are people like me that see it as a major kill. I see it like a chica you've been sessioning for years and giving her 4000 pesos. She's older not what she used to be physically but why'all have history and you know how to deal with her. You go out your way to make time for her. Besides that she lives next to a college where new talent could be seen. All of a sudden she tells you if you want to come and visit her now is 8000 pesos! No compromising! Some pay it and some take her out of the rotation.

Vens chicas have terrible attitudes. There's nothing worse than a hoe who has her head in the clouds. Thinking she's doing you a favor by providing you services. I can only imagine how those negative attitudes escalate in the bedroom. I could be wrong but I wouldn't take that chance and waste my time!

I predict the entertainment center, if one is being built will be finished by Super Bowl. I think by then the transition will be somewhat the norm. My man Ol said people are getting a custom to the new changes. I'm like. Indeed, what other choice do they have? Some people have limited their own choices and they're stuck dealing with the situation at hand.

Wrx2005
11-15-19, 15:41
I'm back in Sosua after a long vacation abroad Most of my info has been gathered through friends, various sites, YT etc. Since I've been back, I've noticed that some chicas patrol the streets around the new designated areas (close to where I live). I was coming home 2 days ago early afternoon, driving, and several chicas everybody should be familiar with were walking around looking for clients a few blocks from Ahnvee. I guess if they can't walk freely downtown, the designated area is where to expect to see them during the day. (and of course the beach).

I'm trying to wrap my head around the idea that I'm going to be seeing a lot of zombie looking, hardcore / aggressive hoes walking around my area. The kind that you really don't want them to know where you live or stay.

Since everything is going to be so close to home, if I choose to, I could go to Ahnvee or High Caribbean to check out the scene. But I haven't been into the club scene downtown, why start now? For the most part, I'll just resume dealing with my regulars.

Another observation. Many of the chicas that are new to me are bigger / fatter. Huge asses. Big bodies, tits. Some from getting fat, and others from surgery. I could be wrong, but I get the impression that the bigger / fatter chicks may be a little easier to negotiate with, whereas the real nice shapely chicks will demand more and won't budge. The latter won't be walking the streets, but will be inside Ahnvee, HC, , bars and casinos. Lets see how long that lasts before they realize they need our resources more than we need their individual juice boxes.

Even on the beach, most of the chicks passing by were big as shit. Many of the halfway decent looking chicks (that have been around awhile) have put on a ton of weight too. But they are still out there trying to hustle and asking for too much initially. I look forward to reading reports / insights from the guys that actually go to the clubs / casinos. Their intel on the current p4 p action in the new areas should be interesting / helpful.

Brother P
11-15-19, 16:29
I'm back in Sosua after a long vacation abroad Most of my info has been gathered through friends, various sites, YT etc. Since I've been back, I've noticed that some chicas patrol the streets around the new designated areas (close to where I live). I was coming home 2 days ago early afternoon, driving, and several chicas everybody should be familiar with were walking around looking for clients a few blocks from Ahnvee. I guess if they can't walk freely downtown, the designated area is where to expect to see them during the day. (and of course the beach).

I'm trying to wrap my head around the idea that I'm going to be seeing a lot of zombie looking, hardcore / aggressive hoes walking around my area. The kind that you really don't want them to know where you live or stay.

Since everything is going to be so close to home, if I choose to, I could go to Ahnvee or High Caribbean to check out the scene. But I haven't been into the club scene downtown, why start now? For the most part, I'll just resume dealing with my regulars.

Another observation. Many of the chicas that are new to me are bigger / fatter. Huge asses. Big bodies, tits. Some from getting fat, and others from surgery. I could be wrong, but I get the impression that the bigger / fatter chicks may be a little easier to negotiate with, whereas the real nice shapely chicks will demand more and won't budge. The latter won't be walking the streets, but will be inside Ahnvee, HC, , bars and casinos. Lets see how long that lasts before they realize they need our resources more than we need their individual juice boxes.

Even on the beach, most of the chicks passing by were big as shit. Many of the halfway decent looking chicks (that have been around awhile) have put on a ton of weight too. But they are still out there trying to hustle and asking for too much initially. I look forward to reading reports / insights from the guys that actually go to the clubs / casinos. Their intel on the current p4 p action in the new areas should be interesting / helpful.You've been gone a long time! Welcome back bruh!

I don't live there as you know.

During my trips I always stayed on that end, not far from ahnvee, which had been closed for all the years I've been coming, 2012. I liked it because I could get a break from the strip when I wanted too. So like you I'm not pleased that the strollers will be so close. I'll be back soon so we shall see!

Like you I have a nice WhatsApp team, and their even more grateful now to be on the team. I don't expect the street chicas to catch on too soon, they arent that type. Anyway enjoy and be safe bruh. Se ya soon!

OldKool
11-15-19, 23:31
Things will even out. The hardcore girls will find places to prey on low hanging fruit. I remember Passions and CMB closing there was much crying and nashing of teeth but we kept it moving. The girls need our money and we want the booty. The bars and clubs want their cut. This rearrangement god be a very good thing for everyone.


You've been gone a long time! Welcome back bruh!

I don't live there as you know.

During my trips I always stayed on that end, not far from ahnvee, which had been closed for all the years I've been coming, 2012. I liked it because I could get a break from the strip when I wanted too. So like you I'm not pleased that the strollers will be so close. I'll be back soon so we shall see!

Like you I have a nice WhatsApp team, and their even more grateful now to be on the team. I don't expect the street chicas to catch on too soon, they arent that type. Anyway enjoy and be safe bruh. Se ya soon!

GrownMan1
11-16-19, 04:02
This rearrangement god be a very good thing for everyone.You might be right Oski. I mean I can see the Santiago Party girls returning to the clubs once the police arrests of any Dominican or Haitian Cease. But playing the devils advocate; it's not hard to see the direction they're going in. The current reports only reinforce the Rezoning predicament and the state of the Sue. I'm just glad the dealer finally showed his hand and we can make our decisions of what moves we want to make.

Wrx2005
11-16-19, 16:42
You've been gone a long time! Welcome back bruh!

I don't live there as you know.

During my trips I always stayed on that end, not far from ahnvee, which had been closed for all the years I've been coming, 2012. I liked it because I could get a break from the strip when I wanted too. So like you I'm not pleased that the strollers will be so close. I'll be back soon so we shall see!

Like you I have a nice WhatsApp team, and their even more grateful now to be on the team. I don't expect the street chicas to catch on too soon, they arent that type. Anyway enjoy and be safe bruh. Se ya soon!Thanks Ace! Me and my partner went to High Caribbean yesterday afternoon to check it out. They have an outside sports bar connected to the club. Interesting setup. A good place for chicas to go to get off the street, and score potential clients. We met one of the guys that works there. I believe he may be part owner. Definitely running things. The bar opens at 2 pm. Chicas are allowed to come in and park. As an incentive the chicas are given a free drink (or drinks?).

There were at least 12 to 20 chicas that came through while we were there. Some cute ones that I haven't seen (since I've been away several months). A few hippos. And a few vets that have been in Sosua for a few years now. Waitresses were cute, very attentive and friendly. There was a handful of male staff there. DJ, security, handy men etc. The manager / owner guy said the concept, is that all are welcome. I asked him if they were connected to Sosua Lights, he said yes. IMO all of the chicas I saw that passed through were Dominicans.

I'm guessing when the club opens up at 11 pm you'll see more Haitian chicas, followed by some of the same customers that were regulars at Sosua Lights, mixed with everybody else that comes to check it out. In the bar area, they had a small menu of food. Quick stuff, like chicken wings, burgers etc.

I was thinking. This may turn out to be workable, having most of the p4 p moving east within Sosua. One thing I don't think will be coming back, is the old school mentality of chicas that so many guys enjoyed. Back in the day. Decent service was about 65%. Less bait and switch. Not having a smart phone, meant less distractions from their clients. TLN's, were expected more. Many chicas wanted to stay the night even if they werent getting paid more. Happy Hours were attempted more,. Price structure was stable. Less hair weave, less butt work, more well dressed chicas late night.

So we have the designated areas setting up to handle the p4 p scene. But unfortunately we are still working with a whole different type of mentality in sex workers. We will have the venues, we will have the demand, but the supply of quality chicas though is still on the decline. Enough chicas are on the fence on whether or not Sosua is still where they should be. Others may make out on social media. Enough do both. FWIW, I sense a lot of guys will and have moved on. They are turned off or afraid of wasting their time and money. For the undesirable clowns that choose not to come to Sosua any more, that's a blessing.

Guys can and will find decent chicas to hire. It may be a challenge doing so.

I had a Sosua vet over last night. While she was with me, her phone was signaling an incoming message. She jumped to go get it. I said to her. You see that is one of the reasons many of you women blow the chance of repeat clients. You muggs always on your phonee. Can't put the phone down for one hour while you have a client. As soon as the mans back is turned, out pops the phone. 1st thing she did was what a local would do. Lie and make excuses for why she had to check her phone. I was only telling her because I have known her ever since she started in Sosua. Plus she gained a ton of weight. I think she is only 27 now. Her window of opportunity is slowly closing. Whatever I said was like, oh well. Checking for missed clients is more important nowadays. Reminds me of how some businesses operate. Sometimes you get better service if you call in, than actually being there in person. This is the generation and mentality that prevails these days.

OldKool
11-16-19, 23:19
I always liked the venue at high Carib. The place is very attractive but the solid Dominican girls do not like rubbing shoulders with the Haitian hotties. However the thing that excites me is having a spot for the early afternoon action. Once Rumbas was shut down the girls had nowhere to post up early. There have always been girls who do not like working at night. I am still looking for the silver lining in all the changes.

Ipanema Carioca
11-17-19, 05:27
"Rescue our paradise," plan to stop prostitution in Sosúa.

"From the Cluster organization we support the measures suggested and implemented by the Office of the Attorney General of the Republic, the Pro-Active Committee of Sosúa, the Economic and Social Council of this municipality, integrated by the City Council, Ministry of Tourism (Mitur), the Council of Councilors, businessmen, representatives of churches, civil society, military organizations, the National Police, the Specialized Tourist Security Corps (Cestur) and the Puerto Plata Air Base, understanding that they seek to recover the pride and dignity of this community—one that has all the necessary elements to enhance its harmonious cultural, historical and family profile," adds the agency in a statement.

"We understand that the actions carried out by the competent authorities, under the strictest adherence to the Constitution and laws, while representing an important step towards the eradication of this scourge that has tarnished the good image of Sosúa, without a doubt come to reinforce the will and struggle of men and women who, with honest work, forge a better future for this destination," the group asserts.

"We reaffirm our institutional support and trust that the efforts that are now being carried out will be continuous and sustainable over time until this unique paradise on the North Coast of the Dominican Republic is rescued," concludes the CTDPP authorities.

In that same order, the main associations of Sosúa have shown their support for the actions that will be implemented to control prostitution in the multi-faceted tourist destination of the North.

This is the Sustainable Development Association of Sosúa (ADSS) and the Association of Hotels and Restaurants of Sosúa and Cabarete (Ashoresoca), who have expressed their support for the actions recently initiated by the authorities to control the disorder in the main streets of the Batey de Sosúa sector.

Being one of the main family tourist destinations in the country, in recent years Sosúa has become a sex tourism destination, due to the uncontrolled growth of prostitution in the center of this attractive municipality on the north coast of the country. This situation has alienated family tourism, both national and foreign, causing the closure of numerous hotels and restaurants, with the resulting unemployment and decline in the area, the statement said.

It is notable that, as part of the process of settlement and ordination of the municipality, last week the Attorney General's Office, assisted by members of the National Police and the Cestur, ordered the closure of several bars on Pedro Clisante street in the sector of El Batey, in Sosúa, applying the resolution of land use issued by the Chapter Hall of the City Council.

The measures have deserved the approval of the great majority of the population, as well as of the companies grouped in the ADSS and ASHORESOCA, main motivators of positive actions for the improvement of the municipality of Sosúa, as well as the different sectors that make up the Economic Council and Social of the Municipality of Sosúa (CESMS).

(Click link below to read more).

https://dominicantoday.com/dr/tourism/2019/11/16/rescue-our-paradise-plan-to-stop-prostitution-in-sosua/

Wrx2005
11-17-19, 11:36
When I was there (High Caribbean) it was Friday afternoon around 530 pm. The chicas that were there, and came later, appeared to be inspecting the scene for client potential. There were only about 7-10 guys there who were also there inspecting the scene, all of us older cats. Can I say conservative mongers? LOL Everything is all new to everybody stopping by.

All the guys were just chilling. The only interaction I recall is one customer dancing with one of the waitresses. Me talking to another. Except for the free drinks, the chicas looked bored. Eventually, they all moved on. My take. These days, enough chicas have built a rep of being flaky and untrustworthy. Plus enough guys don't want to be blowing money paying for drinks and food for chicas when it aint necessary or appreciated. The free drinks that Hc was giving out, the chicas didnt appear to appreciate that. Their attitude seemed like, "shit if you giving it away, sure I'll drink it"

So many guys arent going out their way to be sociable unless they are interested in hooking up or just enjoying the flirt. Don't want to be hasty and another chick or more interesting opportunity pops up. My buddy and I were just looking. Other guys were paired up with their buddies just talking. Chicas saw no action and eventually bounced. Of the chicks that did look interesting, they were with their crew but not making much eye contact the way chicas usually do. So it was kinda a bust for everybody. Waitresses were more interesting. But then they are hoping to get you to spend more money there.

I wish I could report on the club action later that night and tonight.

Tonight about 830 pm (Saturday) just happened to be out on my scooter in the Ahnvee area, and I see traffic is getting heavy. Couple of cars passed with chicas in it, motos moving people back and forth. Chicas mostly. Chicas patrolling the area on foot. I'm standing at the bar on the corner from Ahnvee. A trio of chicas walked past me and 3 other guys I know. Stopped to chat. 2 were cute. But the routine is, these muggs want US dollars for an hours time. And what kind of performance they putting out, who knows? I wasnt interested I had another old regular about 2 hrs earlier from PP. I guess it was too early for chicas to be piling into Ahnvee when there werent many guys in there to hustle.

I thought I was done for the night. About 5 this morning I get a message from another off and on regular. She frequents the club in Playa Chiquita. I let her come over. She pulls up on a moto with another chica. Moto driver must have been hungry. He stayed to finish his food while the other chica was sitting on the bike drinking a beverage. She was cute too. I shcould have got her digits for later. Here in Sosua, you don't always have to have a game plan or hunt down chicas Sometimes opportunities can fall in your lap. Letting the game come to you, instead of always trying to make something happen. Thirst can work for you, but it can also work against you. Indifference to outcome can work in your favor more often than not. Of course with limited time to work with, that can work against a guy on vacation.

So my club chica is fast asleep now after a quick session. Late 30's, always a good time. I like the fact that she's from the old school that got dressed up to go to Rumba, Dee Latin and Clasico. Still got the slim shapely figure. No attitude, no drama. No ridiculous expectations. No begging. She is one of the few chicas that do not call or text much. Most of my other regulars always stayed in touch angling to come by and earn some bread (enough have moved on since I took a long vacation from Sosua). Tonight was just her putting the cherry on top of a Saturday night. Weve hooked up in the wee hours before. Sometimes that's when I want some juice the most. As usual, we both get what we want.

Kelso1
11-17-19, 19:01
I'm just glad the dealer finally showed his hand and we can make our decisions of what moves we want to make.I really like your comment About the dealer. Always good to have the last move.

WanderingMan
11-18-19, 02:27
Tourism of any kind keeps Sosua alive. Personally, I don't need the club scene to get sex in Sosua, because there are plenty of women there who work regular jobs and need extra money. Hell, the women rather fuck a foreigner for extra money then fuck a Dominican for free, so who are we fooling about changes in Sosua?I have visited Sosua several times and never taken a girl out of a club. I meet them on the beach during the day while relaxing, arrange to meet them later, eat dinner, perhaps would go to a small bar for a drink, and then go back to the casa. There may not be many things to do in Sosua, but if you only visit over three or for day trips, it's adequate for the trip, especially in the US is cold in the winter. Several days of 80 degree weather on the beach offer an escape, as do the women. I go for the weather and women, not the drama associated with many sex tourists who act like a few pesos makes them instant royalty.

GrownMan1
11-18-19, 05:42
. A trio of chicas walked past me and 3 other guys I know. Stopped to chat. 2 were cute. But the routine is, these muggs want US dollars for an hours time.
That's what I mean when I say the Chica union has got out a hand. They can't even tell OG's or season vets when they see them. They're pushing to establish the price and hourly tone. They are so used to getting paid by us gringos they're not even asking for pesos. What season vet makes it a habit of paying in US dollars?

IMO It's going to be a while before the dust settle.

Ipanema Carioca
11-18-19, 12:45
I have visited Sosua several times and never taken a girl out of a club. I meet them on the beach during the day while relaxing, arrange to meet them later, eat dinner, perhaps would go to a small bar for a drink, and then go back to the casa. There may not be many things to do in Sosua, but if you only visit over three or for day trips, it's adequate for the trip, especially in the US is cold in the winter. Several days of 80 degree weather on the beach offer an escape, as do the women. I go for the weather and women, not the drama associated with many sex tourists who act like a few pesos makes them instant royalty.I agree! I'm usually in town for at least 10 days, and I get all my action away from the clubs. I usually chill and sleep off jet lag my first night, then the next day I'm early at the beach or walking around town for semi-pros. I have my ole reliables who only do call out service. There are some nice girls who have regular jobs in Sosua, or even POP, who will keep me company. But the police and politicians will never stop me from going to Sosua. In fact, I hope the fools close all the bars to let Sosua be a ghost town.

Ipanema Carioca
11-18-19, 13:14
The mayor of Sosua is behaving like Marie Antoinette! Her cake is the dream that Sosua will be a family Disneyland instead of the DisneyLand that attract men and women to Sosua that has ben paying the taxes to allow the pueblo to have the semblance of a town. Look at the second photo. Sosua can't even adequately collect its trash, causing health concerns. Also, Sosua has children stand in front of the bars on PC every night when they should be safe at home, yet the police and politicians are not concerned about that. So as the first photo depicts what Sosua looks like, it also says Pranitium Bar location will be a fashion store! What? For Who? LOL! The girls all shop in Puerto Plata where clothes are inexpensive, and they buy from the Haitian girls! Tourists will not come to a beach town for fashion, if they come at all!

Oakie
11-19-19, 09:49
Sunday's pool party at Ahmvee was in high gear last weekend!

At least 50 chicas in tiny bikinis twerking their stuff around the pool! Reminiscent of the good old days!

The place was packed with guys who had no trouble locating the new party central!

My local bars are now on the monger radar, too! Cops have laid back, too!

It's all good!

Bravo
11-19-19, 21:49
Sunday's pool party at Ahmvee was in high gear last weekend!

At least 50 chicas in tiny bikinis twerking their stuff around the pool! Reminiscent of the good old days!

The place was packed with guys who had no trouble locating the new party central!

My local bars are now on the monger radar, too! Cops have laid back, too!

It's all good!Only problem is the idiots who have followed the crowd to the new scene. These dumb asses are posting videos of the bikini party on youtube!! If guys just learned to keep their fucking mouth quiet instead of having a "LOOK AT ME, I'm A BOSS" attitude, we could enjoy our endeavors for years!

Oakie
11-19-19, 22:47
Only problem is the idiots who have followed the crowd to the new scene. These dumb asses are posting videos of the bikini party on youtube!! If guys just learned to keep their fucking mouth quiet instead of having a "LOOK AT ME, I'm A BOSS" attitude, we could enjoy our endeavors for years!It seems things got out of hand at Ahmvee.

The cops arrested a whole bunch of chicas as they were leaving the party!

They got to decide if they want a party scene at that end of town, or not!

Doesn't affect us regulars and ex pats, in any way.

Nothing really changes for us.

I for one already got more pussy than I can handle! LOL.

The big change to Sosua for me already happened years ago, when they closed the corner Bermuda Bar, and turned the Happy Bar batchata dancing bar into a pizza joint!

On another note my buddy at Rumba says they are going nowhere.

They are "negotiating" to re-open the restaurant soon!

Brother P
11-19-19, 23:54
Only problem is the idiots who have followed the crowd to the new scene. These dumb asses are posting videos of the bikini party on youtube!! If guys just learned to keep their fucking mouth quiet instead of having a "LOOK AT ME, I'm A BOSS" attitude, we could enjoy our endeavors for years!Yep. In the short time since bourbon closed I've seen way too many videos out of ahnvee. The powers that be want things quiet. I don't see things being allowed to continue. The video dudes are drawing to much attention. I'm staying out of ahnvee next trip.

Brother P
11-19-19, 23:59
It seems things got out of hand at Ahmvee.

The cops arrested a whole bunch of chicas as they were leaving the party!

They got to decide if they want a party scene at that end of town, or not!

Doesn't affect us regulars and ex pats, in any way.

Nothing really changes for us.

I for one already got more pussy than I can handle! LOL.

The big change to Sosua for me already happened years ago, when they closed the corner Bermuda Bar, and turned the Happy Bar batchata dancing bar into a pizza joint!

On another note my buddy at Rumba says they are going nowhere.

They are "negotiating" to re-open the restaurant soon!We'll see how the election goes. But I think Santo Domingo is making it clear they don't want a visible, attention attracting scene in sosua. They video dudes are shooting themselves in the foot.

I figured rumba, chez real and merengue would be allowed to reopen at some point because they have kitchens. But I'm sure there will be new rules that will be strictly enforced. Like Oak said, this really doesn't effect expats and vets, it hits the weekend warriors kinda hard. Looking forward to my next trip. No worries!

Turgid
11-20-19, 14:08
We'll see how the election goes. But I think Santo Domingo is making it clear they don't want a visible, attention attracting scene in sosua. They video dudes are shooting themselves in the foot.

I figured rumba, chez real and merengue would be allowed to reopen at some point because they have kitchens. But I'm sure there will be new rules that will be strictly enforced. Like Oak said, this really doesn't effect expats and vets, it hits the weekend warriors kinda hard. Looking forward to my next trip. No worries!I don't think the videos influence anything, there are tons of videos of action at sex destinations all over youtube yet these places continue to rock.
It would be great if they reopened Rhumba's, my favorite of all in Sosua, it would be good to visit Sosua again.

Brother P
11-20-19, 16:01
I don't think the videos influence anything, there are tons of videos of action at sex destinations all over youtube yet these places continue to rock.
It would be great if they reopened Rhumba's, my favorite of all in Sosua, it would be good to visit Sosua again.I respectfully disagree. I think Santo Domingo has been wanting to shake the sex tourism label since the outgoing president was running for reelection. The YouTube videos with chicas, Facebook posts with chicas all add to the reputation they want to shake. They still want our money, but they want it all quiet. Next they'll crackdown on anything with a flyer on IG or Facebook. Just my opinion. Time will tell. It really doesn't affect anyone with contacts all that much. I'll be back soon. Can't wait!

I can't see how they can keep the restaurants closed. I think at some they will reopen, but with restrictions. Rumbas does have a good kitchen. The goat with veggies is the bomb! Peace to all!

Mr Enternational
11-20-19, 18:09
I respectfully disagree. I think Santo Domingo has been wanting to shake the sex tourism label since the outgoing president was running for reelection. The YouTube videos with chicas, Facebook posts with chicas all add to the reputation they want to shake.But the videos and facebook posts are not what gives it that reputation. How many views do these posts even have? Most people probably do not even know of the reputation. Ask MrGogo about when a known monger, BBBC, was roving all around the north coast and didn't even know Sosua existed. He was just passing the place by going from Puerto Plata to Cabarete. I didn't even know it existed until a coworker told me about it in 2006. And I had already been to Boca Chica twice.

It is only people that are already involved in the sex tourism that are viewing these posts anyway. Hell, I am involved in it and the only time I would even see one is when someone posts it here and I click on it. The average person like my aunt is not at home mistakenly running into these posts and saying shame, shame, shame, no more than I am accidentally running into posts about heart transplants or how to take care of a ficus tree.

Brother P
11-20-19, 18:51
But the videos and facebook posts are not what gives it that reputation. How many views do these posts even have? Most people probably do not even know of the reputation. Ask MrGogo about when a known monger, BBBC, was roving all around the north coast and didn't even know Sosua existed. He was just passing the place by going from Puerto Plata to Cabarete. I didn't even know it existed until a coworker told me about it in 2006. And I had already been to Boca Chica twice.

It is only people that are already involved in the sex tourism that are viewing these posts anyway. Hell, I am involved in it and the only time I would even see one is when someone posts it here and I click on it. The average person like my aunt is not at home mistakenly running into these posts and saying shame, shame, shame, no more than I am accidentally running into posts about heart transplants or how to take care of a ficus tree.We'll have to agree to disagree bruh. When the outgoing president was running for reelection he spoke of cleaning up prostitution on the north coast. Then he went further and mentioned sosua specifically. So the attitude of making change in sosua isn't a new one.

Go on YouTube and type in sosua. A lot of videos will come up. I was sent one this morning of a dude who filmed the protest in sosua last night. A lot of videos have chicas in them. The powers that be don't want that image. All the youtube video dudes don't help. Just my opinion.

Oakie
11-20-19, 19:21
We'll see how the election goes. But I think Santo Domingo is making it clear they don't want a visible, attention attracting scene in sosua. They video dudes are shooting themselves in the foot.

I figured rumba, chez real and merengue would be allowed to reopen at some point because they have kitchens. But I'm sure there will be new rules tha soont will be strictly enforced. Like Oak said, this really doesn't effect expats and vets, it hits the weekend warriors kinda hard. Looking forward to my next trip. No worries!Rumba will reopen, soon! That's a Dominican "soon"! Lol.

I can't speak for the rest of the world, but in the U.K and Canada, at least, where I have family, Sosua has a reputation far out of proportion to it's lowly status as a small pueblo beach town. My main buddy was banned from visiting me by his wife and kids! I now tell folks I'm in PP.

A reputation passed on by thousands of sex tourists who come to Sosua every year and go back to share stories of their sexual escapades. They also come here from Canada like me, the USA, Germany, Holland and Scandinavia, and keep coming back. Cheap available and legal pussy always has a market, even for Europeans!

Also by newspaper "exposes" about the so called problems the Dominican Republic has with underage prostitution and sex tourists.

It's not the youtube videos, it's more like a bar with a bad rep. No matter how much a series of new owners spend to tart it up, it always fails, unless they tear down the building entirely.

It takes a generation to gentrify a bad zip code!

Sosua is stuck with it's rep, for better or worse! LOL.

Brother P
11-20-19, 22:12
Rumor is Rumbas will reopen in the old Mouri mai location, which is across from the casino. Interesting. No word on what will happen to the old location or what the new rules will be. Stay tuned!

GrownMan1
11-20-19, 22:17
Different groups for the Sue. IMO.

1. These are the people that say they're tired of the Sue having a bad name. They wanted to have a good standing reputation. They want to end a prostitution in the area. They want it to be a well-known family Destiination or anything other than sex tourism. They believe they can stop prostitution in the area. They feel business in the Sue will not skip a beat or continue with minimal repercussions. They include Politicians seeking election or reelection and the majority of voting citizens. They have enough influence to recruit the local police and military on their team.

2. These are the people looking to relocate the action. They understand that they cannot stop prostitution but profit big from it being relocated. They see major profits from land being sold and developed from the new location. It's all about the numbers to them and they have Allied themselves with group 1 because they want change of the old Sosua.

3. These are the people that already have an interest the old location. To them, the cops arresting the SW is no good. They want the harassment to stop and let things continue. They are current business owners and their employees. Haitians and Dominicans that hustle in the area, The Minority of voting citizens, and a large majority of its regular tourists.

Ipanema Carioca
11-20-19, 22:57
Different groups for the Sue. IMO.

1. These are the people that say they're tired of the Sue having a bad name. They wanted to have a good standing reputation. They want to end a prostitution in the area. They want it to be a well-known family Destiination or anything other than sex tourism. They believe they can stop prostitution in the area. They feel business in the Sue will not skip a beat or continue with minimal repercussions. They include Politicians seeking election or reelection and the majority of voting citizens. They have enough influence to recruit the local police and military on their team.

2. These are the people looking to relocate the action. They understand that they cannot stop prostitution but profit big from it being relocated. They see major profits from land being sold and developed from the new location. It's all about the numbers to them and they have Allied themselves with group 1 because they want change of the old Sosua.

3. These are the people that already have an interest the old location. To them, the cops arresting the SW is no good. They want the harassment to stop and let things continue. They are current business owners and their employees. Haitians and Dominicans that hustle in the area, The Minority of voting citizens, and a large majority of its regular tourists.Group 1.5%of Sue-Rich and Elite.

Group 2. 10% of Sue-Working class.

Group 3. 85% of Sue-Hungry class.

Brother P
11-20-19, 23:45
Different groups for the Sue. IMO.

1. These are the people that say they're tired of the Sue having a bad name. They wanted to have a good standing reputation. They want to end a prostitution in the area. They want it to be a well-known family Destiination or anything other than sex tourism. They believe they can stop prostitution in the area. They feel business in the Sue will not skip a beat or continue with minimal repercussions. They include Politicians seeking election or reelection and the majority of voting citizens. They have enough influence to recruit the local police and military on their team.

2. These are the people looking to relocate the action. They understand that they cannot stop prostitution but profit big from it being relocated. They see major profits from land being sold and developed from the new location. It's all about the numbers to them and they have Allied themselves with group 1 because they want change of the old Sosua.

3. These are the people that already have an interest the old location. To them, the cops arresting the SW is no good. They want the harassment to stop and let things continue. They are current business owners and their employees. Haitians and Dominicans that hustle in the area, The Minority of voting citizens, and a large majority of its regular tourists.That's about the size of it!

Ipanema Carioca
11-21-19, 10:26
On Tuesday evening, 19 November, a few hundred dismissed employees held a protest March through the streets of Sosúa. These are employees of the bars and restaurants recently closed by order of the government. They are former employees of Bar Central, Bourbon Street restaurant, Bar Pranitium (El Flow), the Merengue Bar, the Rumba Bar, discotheque the 'Clasico, discotheque Citylights, the Blue Ice Piano Bar and Chez Montreal. It is not just about bar staff, but also maintenance, cleaning and security staff. The taxi companies and montoconchos (motor taxis) saw their number of customers decrease considerably.

But also the fashion stores, hairdresser's, massage and beauty salons and other restaurants saw their turnover fall. With torchlights they marched through the streets, with protest signs with slogans and chants, they showed that they are now destitute. 'The holidays are coming and how should we feed our children and sick mother?' The activists we spoke to said that this is just the beginning of the resistance, more protests will follow. Wednesday afternoon there was another protest March in the streets of Sosúa, this time against prostitution. Extra police had been brought in from Puerto Plata to prevent calamities.

https://youtu.be/rqbIbvIphiw

Oakie
11-21-19, 11:39
That's about the size of it!Well, there is another group of folks out there, that nobody mentions. Those who's livelihood depends on the current level of tourism, the owners, managers, suppliers, and most importantly, the WORKERS in the bar, hotel, restaurant business.

Some of them were out marching the streets in protest, a couple nights ago! They need their jobs to support their families now, not at some future time when the "family tourism" business is supposed to kick in!

Mayor Ilana is a politician, above all, and she has to give these folks some real answers, if she's to be re-elected!

Sammon
11-21-19, 12:30
Well, there is another group of folks out there, that nobody mentions. Those who's livelihood depends on the current level of tourism, the owners, managers, suppliers, and most importantly, the WORKERS in the bar, hotel, restaurant business.

Some of them were out marching the streets in protest, a couple nights ago! They need their jobs to support their families now, not at some future time when the "family tourism" business is supposed to kick in!

Mayor Ilana is a politician, above all, and she has to give these folks some real answers, if she's to be re-elected!Sosua has always been built around prostitution. More people came, more hotels opened, more restaurants opened and there were brothels opened also. Tourists are seen in daytime walking around or going to the beach. I do not believe they are bothered with SW. Very few walk around there in the evening or night. Economy supports all the establishment by people coming to enjoy the girls. If the entertainment area is moved to the other end it is anybody's guess whether Sosua will stay as a destination for people looking for girls. That part of the town is not Main Street Sosua. Even if restaurants and clubs move there they may not survive.

I believe Sosua Main Street will slowly die off. Some brave establishments will move to new area hoping. Right now there are no open bars there where people can easily go in and out. When and if it happens I am sure more girls will come looking for money. Maybe few hotels will open in that area. Transportation is not an issue because of motos. Although people like to stay and walk around.

Only way Sosua can survive is by staying as a brothel town. It will never become a tourist town because there is nothing apart from the beach. Beach road survives only because of casa marina.

If the mayor thinks Sosua main will become a tourist town she is not thinking straight or does not care. With the all inclusive resorts tourists will not go to Main Street restaurants and hang around there.

Brother P
11-21-19, 13:55
Well, there is another group of folks out there, that nobody mentions. Those who's livelihood depends on the current level of tourism, the owners, managers, suppliers, and most importantly, the WORKERS in the bar, hotel, restaurant business.

Some of them were out marching the streets in protest, a couple nights ago! They need their jobs to support their families now, not at some future time when the "family tourism" business is supposed to kick in!

Mayor Ilana is a politician, above all, and she has to give these folks some real answers, if she's to be re-elected!Very true. A lot of good people have gotten caught up in this political mess. This is bigger than the mayor. I don't see the old days returning. Hopefully people can find employment somewhere.

Oakie
11-21-19, 14:03
...I believe Sosua Main Street will slowly die off. Some brave establishments will move to new area hoping. Right now there are no open bars there where people can easily go in and out....It already happened!

The once thriving main street is now a deserted rust belt with boarded up store fronts.

I had an (illegal) beer with an old pal down there who is still running a legal business!

In the hour or so I was shooting the shit with him, a few of the old hardcore tarted up hookers were still wandering around looking for the odd client, and some of them did get picked up!

That's what happens when thriving businesses leave an area and the stores get boarded up. It's the same all over the world. It attracts cheap drug dependent hookers and the folks that deal with them! Then the tatoo parlours, rub and tugs, cheap souvenir stands and nail salons take over!

Good job, Ilana! LOL.

Turgid
11-21-19, 14:59
.............Only way Sosua can survive is by staying as a brothel town. It will never become a tourist town because there is nothing apart from the beach............Without prostitution Sosua will be a quiet town with a few tourists. There are many venues throughout the Caribbean with even better beaches than Sosua that are quiet villages with hardly any tourists.

Brother P
11-21-19, 15:23
Without prostitution Sosua will be a quiet town with a few tourists. There are many venues throughout the Caribbean with even better beaches than Sosua that are quiet villages with hardly any tourists.PM me a few of these locations please! Thanks!

GrownMan1
11-21-19, 17:16
Prostitution in that centralized area of Sosua is the head. One club or restaurant does not make the Sue. Those clubs have been playing back-and-forth for years with one opening and the other Being shut down. The beach has always been there and is not going anywhere.

You have weekend warriors, ex pats, street vendors, regular visitors, hustlers, small bars, hotels and restaurants. All of them add to the ambience to the area. However it is the Chicas that are the main attraction.

The harassment has been there for a while however it did not stop the normal flow. Maybe five or six unlucky girls a night will be incarcerated and released the next day. Hell even the police made a little money on the side releasing two or three of the ones they caught for a small fee.

Any Chica could walk on the strip and grab a quick client. Some only went when the club was open. Some came with no intentions of going in a club or restaurant. It was a public area and a live spot for SW, tourist, locals, and more during the day but especially at night.

When the police and the military got the Political instructions to arrest any Chica in the area that looks like she's involved in prostitution a problem came into play. That roughly affected 70% of the action on the main street. You still had action going on in the clubs. However the quality of SW Chica's dropped noticeably. The prices in the clubs sometimes doubled or tripled.

The clubs, restaurants, and bars became a haven for many Chicas seeking to avoid the police. That led to the next move of removing the main clubs and bars from the area.

Opportunist came in and jumped on the bandwagon. They aligned them selves with people who wanted change. It seem like a good alliance until the differences of the two group came to light. Group 2: Who had the Financial resources and vision to create a new area "Out of sight out of mind" bump heads with group 1: Group 1 didn't want any parties organized or un organize of any sort. They still were in possession of the local police and military forces. They use them to stop any ongoing parties in any the area.

As a result, A backlash came in effect and the area has suffered financially. What would you expect when you put the full force of stopping prostitution in action.

Some people think the above situation doesn't affect them because they, like me, have a lot of Chicas contacts and can just call for service is needed. I say true to a point however, I say this. That is good to weather the storm but what happens if it always raining. The Sue will very quickly lose its attraction.

If I was thinking about retiring or maybe getting a second home in the DR and I came to Sosua in its present state, do you think I would want to choose there? Do you think it would be a good place for me to tell my partners to invest their retirement or personal finances in getting a condo or a business in the area? Is the place currently just as attractive as it was 3 year or 3 months ago?
We on this board are up on new information and current condition true or false however imagine the person that’s not. Imagine the person who has been to the Sue a few times six months ago and now has returned with five of his friends. Imagine how they’re feeling about the scene in its current condition.

Is a small beach city with one traffic light and a population of a little over 50,000 locals worth me wanting to stay there?

The Sue cannot die! But when you change up your pitch some people may not want to hit your ball. I'm hoping things will normalize but I know with time nothing stays the same.

Wrx2005
11-21-19, 23:32
Some people think the above situation doesn't affect them because they, like me, have a lot of Chicas contacts and can just call for service is needed. I say true to a point however, I say this. That is good to weather the storm but what happens if it always raining. The Sue will very quickly lose its attraction.

If I was thinking about retiring or maybe getting a second home in the DR and I came to Sosua in its present state, do you think I would want to choose there? Do you think it would be a good place for me to tell my partners to invest their retirement or personal finances in getting a condo or a business in the area? Is the place currently just as attractive as it was 3 year or 3 months ago?
We on this board are up on new information and current condition true or false however imagine the person thats not. Imagine the person who has been to the Sue a few times six months ago and now has returned with five of his friends. Imagine how theyre feeling about the scene in its current condition.

Is a small beach city with one traffic light and a population of a little over 50,000 locals worth me wanting to stay there?

The Sue cannot die! But when you change up your pitch some people may not want to hit your ball. I'm hoping things will normalize but I know with time nothing stays the same.Big dude, remember a few years ago we saw posts about how easy Sosua was about mongering? It was considered mongering on training wheels? And how Santo Domingo was for experienced mongers who know what they are doing. Remember how old vets sort of mocked the mongers that were still going to Sosua, and that they had moved on?

Well right now, this is the time a monger needs some experience in knowing how to navigate in Sosua and get the most out of it, regardless of the political turmoil or venue closings. All those that have bailed because of closings, chica arrests etc, have basically declared that they are not cut out for adapting to change. They need those training wheels.

On the idea of advising friends on if Sosua is a viable place to retire to. I think it is. With a few caveats. If he is an expat like myself, who does not require certain venues to be open in order to cope, is not in vacation mode so he has no need to fulfil a quotaof chicas for his vacation. He can very well live in or close to Sosua. The benefit of already being an expat, is that I'm living through all of the changes I see around me. I have no sense of loss or doom like what is felt back in the matrix. Because in my opinion, that's the reaction that I sense from enough mongers not only from this forum, but others.

Me and my expat friends feel no such concern. Whatever happens, happens. Day to day living is still great. On another note, I believe in keeping things simple. And I've kept it simple the entire time. I will never complicate my life by retiring, and then try to open a business. Flying under the radar is one of the best assets you have in living abroad. It amazes me how many guys want to live in the DR, but not satisfied with just retiring. They have to open a business. By not having a business, do you know how much stress a person eliminated from their life? Another thing, I don't advise mongers to buy property just because they loved their mongering lifestyle. And want to continue it in retirement.

I always advise guys to rent and live in the DR for a while. Once the novelty of living in the DR falls off, the thrill of being close to juice will fall off too. Sosua is a place a dude can love without the p4 p right in your face. Getting chicks and juice is easy, it doesn't have to come just from Sosua. You don't need Sosua just for that. I also advise guys not to invest too much money on a place to live. Live decent but don't spend a fortune on rent. I started off paying only $350 a month rent. And it hasnt changed ever since I took on the place. Look at me now. I have another place on the other side of the world. The rent and expenses are almost the same. But I may not have been able to do it, if I was knee deep paying rent in one place. I gave my self the flexibility to live anywhere else I want. Not just in Sosua. I did what I need to do when I was working, so I can afford to do whatever I want financially without needing to earn income from a job or opening a business.

IMO, that's what a retiring individual should consider. Grow into retirement abroad. Don't put too much into one place until you really know where you want to stay. You might find out you want to live in a totally different country. I recall a ytuber, who paid a nice chunk of cash to buy his condo in Sosua. Outgrew the place in about a year and a half, then end up moving to PP. Paying for a place over there. Thats what happens when being hasty in decision making. Granted he may have sold the 1st place and made a profit, but that was still a huge risk. To cough up that much cash, and eventually realize you rather live elsewhere.

Guys from the states need to spend their time talking to wise dudes in the trenches that may offer solid advice / counsel. Lastly, often enough the needs of a 60 something year old is going to be quite different than a 40 ish pushing 50 dude eligible for retirement. Vacationing mongers often have a different outlook than expats who have been living abroad for awhile.