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KyoHiromitsu
10-23-21, 14:11
Some people would say that the street walkers in Sosua ask for too much. But the reality is that these girls have to spend money to get there and be ready for the guys.
Example:
-If the girl is from Santo Domingo and goes for 3 days /2 nights she will spend $20 transport, $30 Hotel, $10 food, $50 heair and nails, $15 Clothes for a total: $125 dollars.
-If that girl has 4ST and 1 LT that would be about $250 dollars.
-So. That girl will get only about $125 dollars from getting laid with 5 different guys.
That's' why the prices are about US $45ST and US $100 LT.
-Then again, if the girl is arrested by the police (they can arrest anyone for 24 Hours without proof) then they will just lose all the investment. And it happens a lot, that's why you don't see many girls from Santiago or Santo Domingo and you see many Haitians that live in Sosua.
Mr Enternational
10-23-21, 19:00
Some people would say that the street walkers in Sosua ask for too much. But the reality is that these girls have to spend money to get there and be ready for the guys.And how is that the guys' problem? So I should go tell my boss I have to pay this much for my car note, this much for insurance, this much to change the oil, this much for a haircut, this much for a new suit, all to come to work? You act like the streets of Sosua are packed with superstars dressed to the nines when it ain't. So what is your reasoning for chicks in Santo Domingo or Punta Cana asking 5000 pesos?
A favorite line from one of my favorite movies when discussing about the costs of doing business, Tango said, "Well don't sell dope then Frank." First they tricked you into paying for them to get back and forth to "work", now they got you paying for hair and clothes too?
I think it was back in the 1920s when in the US restaurants and shit, in order to save on costs, stopped paying workers the normal wage and started paying them less and tricked customers to directly pay the difference in the form of tips. Today the workers in those same industries want the employer to start paying the normal wage again, but do you think they are going to want to forego the tips? No. They are going to expect both. The same as these hoes are expecting you to get them back and forth, feed them, get them drunk, pay them, AND give them tips!
And how is that the guys' problem?. The same as these hoes are expecting you to get them back and forth, feed them, get them drunk, pay them, AND give them tips!He trying to justify the reason why street chicas are asking for more money! They don't need a reason! If times are good they will ask for more money. If times are bad they will ask for more money. These are hoes Sir. They don't need any justification.
He said all of that but yet to say better service. He really feels that way he can pay the difference for the rest of us.
Some people would say that the street walkers in Sosua ask for too much. But the reality is that these girls have to spend money to get there and be ready for the guys.
Example:
-If the girl is from Santo Domingo and goes for 3 days /2 nights she will spend $20 transport, $30 Hotel, $10 food, $50 heair and nails, $15 Clothes for a total: $125 dollars.
-If that girl has 4ST and 1 LT that would be about $250 dollars.
-So. That girl will get only about $125 dollars from getting laid with 5 different guys.
That's' why the prices are about US $45ST and US $100 LT.
-Then again, if the girl is arrested by the police (they can arrest anyone for 24 Hours without proof) then they will just lose all the investment. And it happens a lot, that's why you don't see many girls from Santiago or Santo Domingo and you see many Haitians that live in Sosua.Your prices are close, but chicas usually stay with friends, or share the cost of a cheap hotel room. They are usually also paying for babysitting back home.
Sosua is a convenient (and legal) market for both hookers and mongers. Within a 15 minute walk I can cover the entire scene, beaches, bars, clubs, restaurants, casino. Lots of interaction between customers and providers.
Sosua hookers come from all regions of DR, and Haiti, and mongers come from all over the world.
The hookers range from hard core SWs to high end part timers. The SWs are low priced quickies of unreliable quality who work on volume. They charge what the market will bear.
High enders are better organized, with a contact list of reliable regulars and work from their phone. They charge on a different scale, and will mix business with pleasure. Dinner, a day at the beach, or a week at your hotel. GFE.
The mongers range from pennypinchers on a tight budget, to weekend warriors that come to party, and will spend money to make it happen. In the middle are newbies, who are just finding their way. One guy is happy getting a 500 peso BJ in the banyo, while the next guy wants her to go home with him.
When talking about prices, I always go back to the restaurant analogy. You can dscuss the average price of a hamburger, good steak, or lobster, but pussy, just like food, varies in quality and how it is served up, so there's always a disparity in what one guy is willing to pay for what he really wants. There's no one set price for "a meal".
What I really want is beautiful young ladies like I see on TV. I got that in Sosua. One of my favorite ways to spend an afternoon is to join a few of my bartender friends at the beach, or after work at a bar with music. I don't have to "entertain" them, they entertain me and each other, and yes, I pick up the tab for the drinks and the food within reason. We often draw a crowd, so before it gets out of hand I call for mi cuenta por favor. I may or may not finish up fucking them, usually not. Me, I'm just having a good time in good company, and I'm usually the first one to check out. Some guys would call that being ripped off, LOL.
My advice on prices, always comes down to this. Make sure you get YOUR value for your money, not somebody else's value. (And be nice to anybody you share bodily fluids with, or serves you food.).
Some people would say that the street walkers in Sosua ask for too much. But the reality is that these girls have to spend money to get there and be ready for the guys.
Example:
-If the girl is from Santo Domingo and goes for 3 days /2 nights she will spend $20 transport, $30 Hotel, $10 food, $50 heair and nails, $15 Clothes for a total: $125 dollars.
-If that girl has 4ST and 1 LT that would be about $250 dollars.
-So. That girl will get only about $125 dollars from getting laid with 5 different guys.
That's' why the prices are about US $45ST and US $100 LT.
-Then again, if the girl is arrested by the police (they can arrest anyone for 24 Hours without proof) then they will just lose all the investment. And it happens a lot, that's why you don't see many girls from Santiago or Santo Domingo and you see many Haitians that live in Sosua.Then how do their sisters in Brazil or Colombia (aside from Cartagena) manage to sell their wares without asking "for too much"? They also, I presume, have expenses, no?
The GrownMan's doctrine sounds like a much better explanation to me, LOL.
So. That girl will get only about $125 dollars from getting laid with 5 different guys.
That's' why the prices are about US $45ST and US $100 LT.$125 in 3 days is $833 a month when working 5 days a week, right? That is twice the average income and more than an architect earns.
I am in Sosua right now. Its my first time and my last time. I don't have a problem to pay $45 or $100. But what I get for my money is bull.
Some people would say that the street walkers in Sosua ask for too much. But the reality is that these girls have to spend money to get there and be ready for the guys.
Example:
-If the girl is from Santo Domingo and goes for 3 days /2 nights she will spend $20 transport, $30 Hotel, $10 food, $50 heair and nails, $15 Clothes for a total: $125 dollars.
-If that girl has 4ST and 1 LT that would be about $250 dollars.
-So. That girl will get only about $125 dollars from getting laid with 5 different guys.
That's' why the prices are about US $45ST and US $100 LT.
-Then again, if the girl is arrested by the police (they can arrest anyone for 24 Hours without proof) then they will just lose all the investment. And it happens a lot, that's why you don't see many girls from Santiago or Santo Domingo and you see many Haitians that live in Sosua.I have met out of town girls many times in Sosua. Far away places like LA vega, Santo Domingo, Santiago, Nagua etc. No, they do not spend lot of money to get there or for staying or for pruning themselves.
They have their own network. Some stayed with so called Auntie houses paying very little money. Most out of Townes are hoping to shack up with you and avoid paying for stay. Food on the street costs very little. They get lucky if they are with me or someone like me who treats them with a nice dinner. Almost all of them are really hungry because eating street food is not filling. Doing their hair, nails etc, there are very cheap places in charamico. Many a times I have dropped them there while I go for a massage and pick them up later. They do not go to the places we go and even if they do they negotiate and pay half the price. One girl took me to a low end massage place but I would not partake because it was dirty and stinky. If I find a nice friendly girl I tend to keep them for a few days and I always rent a car.
In general their outlay in minimal. They are very careful investing lot of money hoping to catch a money dodo who will pay asking price and more. Many of them do not get any customers. Especially with tourism way down they will not make a trip.
Yes, asking price has gone up like inflation everywhere. Few years ago massage for one hour was $6 dollars and with tip used to come to $10. Now it is with tip $25 in a nice clean place.
Negotiations is the name of the game.
....They get lucky if they are with me or someone like me who treats them with a nice dinner. Almost all of them are really hungry because eating street food is not filling....I cannot understand men who would begrudge a woman a meal. One has to be a really sad individual to be so mean. Its food after all, not a scam. It won't break the bank. A woman needs to eat to maintain her health and we all want to bed healthy women, do we? I have no problem having lunch or dinner with a woman even if I don't end up in bed with her. I much prefer to dine with company than by myself. Jeez, some people!
KyoHiromitsu
10-24-21, 16:11
Then how do their sisters in Brazil or Colombia (aside from Cartagena) manage to sell their wares without asking "for too much"? They also, I presume, have expenses, no?
The GrownMan's doctrine sounds like a much better explanation to me, LOL.Its because pretty girls tend to be arrested when they go. I have talked to them plenty of times and they tell me that they are never going back. I have also been told by the police "I will throw you on the truck bed". Any SW in Sosua will have to run from the police 7 times in a single day. Its not funny.
Most girls that stay there are full time SW living in Sosua. 10 years ago it was different. Many girls from everywhere and no police harassing them.
I get really mad at the police there, they are bad mannered.
Lets see what happens now, there is a new Japanese descendant tourism police chief and a new Chinese descendant police chief, in some months things may change.
Mr Enternational
10-24-21, 19:07
I get really mad at the police there, they are bad mannered.
Lets see what happens now, there is a new Japanese descendant tourism police chief and a new Chinese descendant police chief, in some months things may change.It does not matter who the police chief is. I can not see any of them wanting hookers trolling the streets. The only people that want this is people that want to rent hookers.
I cannot understand men who would begrudge a woman a meal. One has to be a really sad individual to be so mean.I like this too. I am with Sammon. Only "ficky ficky" is boring. I can have the same at home. Spending time in a restaurant or a bar with a nice girl before going to my room is better. And you will get a better service. Just my 5 Cent.
Its because pretty girls tend to be arrested when they go. I have talked to them plenty of times and they tell me that they are never going back. I have also been told by the police "I will throw you on the truck bed". Any SW in Sosua will have to run from the police 7 times in a single day. Its not funny.
Most girls that stay there are full time SW living in Sosua. 10 years ago it was different. Many girls from everywhere and no police harassing them.
I get really mad at the police there, they are bad mannered.
Lets see what happens now, there is a new Japanese descendant tourism police chief and a new Chinese descendant police chief, in some months things may change.I just left Sosua today on the bus and the police are chasing the girls who are circling the areas on the street. They were all running into Baileys and nursing a presidente for two hours. I don't see girls hanging out on the corners during the day. The day rotation is start at the beach doing a couple laps, up to Baileys, Newgarden and Valeria, then head down by Europa.
I cannot understand men who would begrudge a woman a meal. One has to be a really sad individual to be so mean. Its food after all, not a scam. It won't break the bank. A woman needs to eat to maintain her health and we all want to bed healthy women, do we? I have no problem having lunch or dinner with a woman even if I don't end up in bed with her. I much prefer to dine with company than by myself. Jeez, some people!Brother do Dominican women look unhealthy? They eat very good with family and friends when we aren't around. Personally I like eating alone instead of having a hooker tell me her sad life story. Also the name of the game is "Time". And money. While you treat that hooker to a two hour brunch she is thinking about the money and clients she missed out on. So when you buy a girl in Sosua that 900 peso lobster meal and taking up her working time don't be surprised when she asks you for the full fee even if she never made it to the hotel room.
But if it's a normal girl sure I don't mind a DATE where we eat and go for a few drinks.
Another thing is Dominican women regularly eat the " meal of the day" for 150 pesos consisting of beans, rice, chicken, salad and water. Feed them a fancy steak or seafood and they will pick at it. Most don't even know how to cut a steak.
I have met out of town girls many times in Sosua. Far away places like LA vega, Santo Domingo, Santiago, Nagua etc. No, they do not spend lot of money to get there or for staying or for pruning themselves.
They have their own network. Some stayed with so called Auntie houses paying very little money. Most out of Townes are hoping to shack up with you and avoid paying for stay. Food on the street costs very little. They get lucky if they are with me or someone like me who treats them with a nice dinner. Almost all of them are really hungry because eating street food is not filling. Doing their hair, nails etc, there are very cheap places in charamico. Many a times I have dropped them there while I go for a massage and pick them up later. They do not go to the places we go and even if they do they negotiate and pay half the price. One girl took me to a low end massage place but I would not partake because it was dirty and stinky. If I find a nice friendly girl I tend to keep them for a few days and I always rent a car.
In general their outlay in minimal. They are very careful investing lot of money hoping to catch a money dodo who will pay asking price and more. Many of them do not get any customers. Especially with tourism way down they will not make a trip..Here is how I have watched the change over the years regarding this topic. Pre 2015 most of the girls were local and independent. They mostly hailed from Puerto Plata, La Union, Montellano, Sabanettta, Cabarette and other local towns. On weekends the Santiago girls would go to Sosua. Santo Domingo, San Pedro, Boca chica had a presence also. But the girls weren't clicked up and served independently without violence and pimps. TLN was still in play. Sosua was fun, laidback and easy.
Post 2015 Brazil shut down and Sosua could no longer fly under the radar. Sosua was the hot spot on this side of the globe and Sosua went hardcore. Hourly fucking was now the normal and fast money. With that came pimps and girls being clicked up for protection. The Santo Domingo girls came in hard and fast with their girlfriends and violence against the local independent girls. Santo Domingo, San Pedro, and Boca chica girls were considered a team.
Don't believe me go up to the highway and sit at the taxi stand and the metro bus station in Sosua (they are across the street from each other). Sit there and watch the parade of girls coming to Sosua on the metro bus from other cities. Back in the day you would see a flood of girls coming up in taxis from local towns.
I have been doing Sosua for 10 years and there have always been many girls from Santo domingo and a many from Santiago especially on the weekends. THE girls are attracted by quick money or the hope of quick money. The girls have no idea how much competition there is on the streets. Many are neighborhood hotties who think the will have guys falling all over them. I have encountered very few pimps during my sojourns. No one needs any help help findng women in Sosua. The Vast majority of girls are independent and stuggle to get enough to break even. There are way more girls then guys to use the services. The biggest change in Sosua is the politics. A new Mayor came into power and became very hostile to the working girls. The police started harassing the girls and making them insecure. This lead to many of the more well rounded girls staying home and the more hardcore desperate girls hitting the stroll. The current crop of girls is about half of what it was 5 yerars ago and the quality has suffered. Mondays and Tuesdays were as lively as the currrent weekends. You could sit af El flow at 3 pm and see 150 girls go into Rumbas and this was the appetizer to Classicos.
I miss those days but I still have a great time when I visit Sosua. There are less hot girls to chose from so the selection is easier. I repeat with girls who I know give good service which protects me form scammers. Never the less I am always open to new girls.
Here is how I have watched the change over the years regarding this topic. Pre 2015 most of the girls were local and independent. They mostly hailed from Puerto Plata, La Union, Montellano, Sabanettta, Cabarette and other local towns. On weekends the Santiago girls would go to Sosua. Santo Domingo, San Pedro, Boca chica had a presence also. But the girls weren't clicked up and served independently without violence and pimps. TLN was still in play. Sosua was fun, laidback and easy.
Post 2015 Brazil shut down and Sosua could no longer fly under the radar. Sosua was the hot spot on this side of the globe and Sosua went hardcore. Hourly fucking was now the normal and fast money. With that came pimps and girls being clicked up for protection. The Santo Domingo girls came in hard and fast with their girlfriends and violence against the local independent girls. Santo Domingo, San Pedro, and Boca chica girls were considered a team.
Don't believe me go up to the highway and sit at the taxi stand and the metro bus station in Sosua (they are across the street from each other). Sit there and watch the parade of girls coming to Sosua on the metro bus from other cities. Back in the day you would see a flood of girls coming up in taxis from local towns.
Brother do Dominican women look unhealthy? They eat very good with family and friends when we aren't around. Personally I like eating alone instead of having a hooker tell me her sad life story. Also the name of the game is "Time". And money. While you treat that hooker to a two hour brunch she is thinking about the money and clients she missed out on. So when you buy a girl in Sosua that 900 peso lobster meal and taking up her working time don't be surprised when she asks you for the full fee even if she never made it to the hotel room.On a couple occasions I sat down with a girl on the beach for lunch. There were never any "sad life stories". We just enjoyed the company, lots of laughs. I usually had a sandwich, and they would have the same, or a fish, never anything extravagant. Afterward, we'd go to the hotel and work off that meal. I never paid more than 2 K pesos, girls usually stayed a little longer after the fact to chat, and talk of money never came up for lost time while eating. So, it comes down to who you're with and your own personality. The hardcore girls are obvious, and easy to stay away from. In fact, on three separate occasions, I had two girls buy me a drink, and one bought me an ice cream at the place on the corner before heading back to the hotel. I didn't have any bad experiences, and the selection was always good. No, there weren't 200 girls on the street at any given time, but you don't need a selection that big to find some great ones. I had a great time while I was there, and I know other first timers would as well. Just have to choose wisely. Stick to the Haitian girls for a much better experience.
Here is how I have watched the change over the years regarding this topic. Pre 2015 most of the girls were local and independent. They mostly hailed from Puerto Plata, La Union, Montellano, Sabanettta, Cabarette and other local towns. On weekends the Santiago girls would go to Sosua. Santo Domingo, San Pedro, Boca chica had a presence also. But the girls weren't clicked up and served independently without violence and pimps. TLN was still in play. Sosua was fun, laidback and easy.
Post 2015 Brazil shut down and Sosua could no longer fly under the radar. Sosua was the hot spot on this side of the globe and Sosua went hardcore. Hourly fucking was now the normal and fast money. With that came pimps and girls being clicked up for protection. The Santo Domingo girls came in hard and fast with their girlfriends and violence against the local independent girls. Santo Domingo, San Pedro, and Boca chica girls were considered a team.
Don't believe me go up to the highway and sit at the taxi stand and the metro bus station in Sosua (they are across the street from each other). Sit there and watch the parade of girls coming to Sosua on the metro bus from other cities. Back in the day you would see a flood of girls coming up in taxis from local towns.You've been around MrGoGo, I have never been to South America or Asia. I get what I like in Sosua.
I would think that the fact that prostitution is legal in DR, is a major factor in the availability of all those girls you see, that are getting off the Thursday and Friday buses, many of them young newbies. They can sell their pussy legally, without breaking any laws, and, aside from the older girlfriend that introduces her to the business, needs no pimp, or connections?
In DR prostitution is a widely accepted (in tourist towns anyway) legal job of work, so there's very little stigma attached to making a few bucks by partying with tourists.
Would you say that there are as many young fresh, otherwise "normal" chicas in these other places you visit, PI, BK, Columbia and Brazil? Or is it more of a "racket" that also attracts undesirable elements?
I think it began strongly enforce about 2016. During that time the current female mayor with backing from the capital; aggressively Increased persecution of the SW. Many locals wanted things to stay the same. That decision cost her The next election. That election took place just prior to the Covid pandemic.
The new mayor was supposedly in support of the local businesses that did not want the harassment of chicas to continue. It went viral after he won the election chicas were celebrating in the streets. However, once in office nothing changed. The closing of Classico, City lights, Bourbon Street, and Rumbas were all politically targeted for closing. So not only was the chicas being targeted; businesses that catered to that type of crowd in that area were shut down. Rumbas has adapted however they cannot control the harassment of the police.
Guys like myself and many others who have made it a custom to going to the Sue have learned to adapt. New guys have dealt with was given to them not knowing what they missed. As Gogo stated The police targeted the Chicas and left the tourist alone. Believe it or not this cycle has been working and the Sue has still been a hotspot for P4 P. But the air is slowly deflating.
We are at the point now where something is going to have to give. Obvious someone higher than the Mayor is calling the shots. The cycle of adjusting to the current situation comes with the territory of visiting or living there. The Dominicans who called the shots have they eyes on something bigger and I respect them.
The Sue is off my list for a while but I have my fingers crossed. Meanwhile Medellin, Cartagena, Bogota and other places are on a rise.
On a couple occasions I sat down with a girl on the beach for lunch. There were never any "sad life stories". We just enjoyed the company, lots of laughs. I usually had a sandwich, and they would have the same, or a fish, never anything extravagant. Afterward, we'd go to the hotel and work off that meal. I never paid more than 2 K pesos, girls usually stayed a little longer after the fact to chat, and talk of money never came up for lost time while eating. So, it comes down to who you're with and your own personality. The hardcore girls are obvious, and easy to stay away from. In fact, on three separate occasions, I had two girls buy me a drink, and one bought me an ice cream at the place on the corner before heading back to the hotel. I didn't have any bad experiences, and the selection was always good. No, there weren't 200 girls on the street at any given time, but you don't need a selection that big to find some great ones. I had a great time while I was there, and I know other first timers would as well. Just have to choose wisely. Stick to the Haitian girls for a much better experience.Yes, the Haitian girls have always been the backup plan when Dominicans aren't on my plan. Haitians are more appreciative, less problems and better in bed IMO.
If you can get them to buy you drinks, make you laugh and less than 2 k, that's a win win. Sounds like you found GFE in Sosua, very rare nowadays. But I have noticed my last couple trips to Sosua, even the Haitian girls becoming more business like.
Mr Enternational
10-25-21, 15:14
Only "ficky ficky" is boring. I can have the same at home. Spending time in a restaurant or a bar with a nice girl before going to my room is better. And you will get a better service.There are tons of casas that are known for A1 service and tons of guys that have taken chicks to their room after being at a restaurant or bar and gotten robbed or had a scam run on them that say otherwise. You may think you are doing something that is going to get you a better experience, but it is all luck of the draw as to how your experience goes.
Like when people keep wild animals as pets. They feed them everyday and give them lots of love, but you still hear stories in the news of those mfs ripping their faces off every now and then. Hookers are wild animals, not stuffed animals. Because you fed them and gave them drink, or paid their rent does not mean shit. Proceed with caution.
I think it began strongly enforce about 2016. During that time the current female mayor with backing from the capital; aggressively Increased persecution of the SW. Many locals wanted things to stay the same. That decision cost her The next election. That election took place just prior to the Covid pandemic.
The new mayor was supposedly in support of the local businesses that did not want the harassment of chicas to continue. It went viral after he won the election chicas were celebrating in the streets. However, once in office nothing changed. The closing of Classico, City lights, Bourbon Street, and Rumbas were all politically targeted for closing. So not only was the chicas being targeted; businesses that catered to that type of crowd in that area were shut down. Rumbas has adapted however they cannot control the harassment of the police.
Guys like myself and many others who have made it a custom to going to the Sue have learned to adapt. New guys have dealt with was given to them not knowing what they missed. As Gogo stated The police targeted the Chicas and left the tourist alone. Believe it or not this cycle has been working and the Sue has still been a hotspot for P4 P. But the air is slowly deflating..Willie the Mayor also owns Classico's last time I checked. There have been rumors for two weeks of Classico's opening but it hasn't happened yet.
This weekend is Halloween and many events are planned in Sosua so it will be a test. If Classico's doesn't open it probably won't for awhile. Also visited a couple of nice after hour spots in Sosua. Sharks is nice and the Casino was packed.
Ramona's was packed also Saturday night to celebrate her birthday. My favorite spot is the Treehouse 2, close to kings. Old school r&b DJ, nice looking girls and good food. Last trip there in August pulled a nice one who fit my plan. She was sitting in Tree House 2 at a table by herself, check. I don't like chicas ganged up. She was sipping wine, check. Brown Dominicana dressed professionally, check check. While I was plotting my move my partner snuck over to her but came back after 5 minutes. He said she wanted 3 k TLN, bingo. I said go get her or I will, and he waved his hand like he didn't want her and I pounced. I did my interview to see if she was crazy and we headed to the exit. At the room we had some rum and she took a shower. Sex was average but she had a nice attitude. We had another drink when she said she was hungry and could I give her money for a hamburger. Ok, I get it plus I was tired and tipsy. Here sweetie take the 3 k and go get a hamburger and we will end this, call me tomorrow. She was sweet and cool to hang with but 3 k is my top price, thanks for a good 3 hours. This trip I didn't see any girls who fit my check list. Most were grouped up, wearing spandex booty shorts and long fake eyelashes. They ranged from the ugly fat girl who wanted 100 usd to cute and nicely shaped who wanted 150 usd. One guy in out group paid 3 k pesos for a ten minute blowjob. Another guy paid 250 usd for 3 hours. These are rich guy who don't visit Sosua often and have big money. Overall it was good trip but mostly I spent my time keeping my buddies safe and watching the show.
I did have something special happen on my last day. A white girl walking her dog. We hung out till 2 am club hopping as she only drank juices. She is my new buddy so I really can't say more. The SU still surprises me sometimes.
There are tons of casas that are known for A1 service and tons of guys that have taken chicks to their room after being at a restaurant or bar and gotten robbed or had a scam run on them that say otherwise. You may think you are doing something that is going to get you a better experience, but it is all luck of the draw as to how your experience goes.
Like when people keep wild animals as pets. They feed them everyday and give them lots of love, but you still hear stories in the news of those mfs ripping their faces off every now and then. Hookers are wild animals, not stuffed animals. Because you fed them and gave them drink, or paid their rent does not mean shit. Proceed with caution.People are different. And this is good. Some people like to spend time with the girls outside the hotel room, some people only like to fu* What is the problem? I never got robbed because I was in a restaurant with a girl LOL.
When hookers are only "wild animals" for you then you have a problem. You are scared, right? But this girls are just entertainer.
Most were grouped up, wearing spandex booty shorts and long fake eyelashes. They ranged from the ugly fat girl who wanted 100 usd to cute and nicely shaped who wanted 150 usd. One guy in out group paid 3 k pesos for a ten minute blowjob. Another guy paid 250 usd for 3 hours. These are rich guy who don't visit Sosua often and have big money.See what I mean. This is a good example of quality going down yet prices going up. $250 for three hours give me a break. Most of those chicas have more hits on their body than a Mayweather fight. I can't get mad at the chicas. With all the extra expenses they have to pay and all.
There are tons of casas that are known for A1 service and tons of guys that have taken chicks to their room after being at a restaurant or bar and gotten robbed or had a scam run on them that say otherwise. You may think you are doing something that is going to get you a better experience, but it is all luck of the draw as to how your experience goes.
Like when people keep wild animals as pets. They feed them everyday and give them lots of love, but you still hear stories in the news of those mfs ripping their faces off every now and then. Hookers are wild animals, not stuffed animals. Because you fed them and gave them drink, or paid their rent does not mean shit. Proceed with caution.I had my first bad experience with a chica my first trip to the DR, near Juan Dolio. I had this cute girl I met at a bar. We had drinks, so appetizers and sat for a couple of hours. Then went to the room, she did a blow job for about 2 minutes then stopped and said she wanted more $$, after already agreeing on a price. She threatened to call the police, I said go ahead. I called the security guard at the hotel, I didn't understand why he didn't drag her ass out. I was pissed at him, and started yelling at him. In hindsight, and after reading the forum, I know that wasn't the thing to do. I gave her about $10 US above what I had already paid and told her to get out, which she did.
I really only had one other time this happened in the Sue. No drinks, or dinner, just negotiated before going to the room. Her attitude changed when we got to the room, However, I gave it to her in the ass, gave her about $10 extra and told her to get out. I was staying in a small condo complex, and had been friendly with the security staff, so they probably would have thrown her out if I asked.
As far as overnight, several days, I won't do that at first, rarely do it at all. Only short term at first, then If the attitude is good, I will call for a return, then if I enjoy her time, maybe spend a day or two at the beach. I have a couple on my list if this crazy virus ends. I have been to the DR about 10 times, mostly good fun, the problem chicas have been minimal, I guess I just consider that part of the game.
See what I mean. This is a good example of quality going down yet prices going up. $250 for three hours give me a break. Most of those chicas have more hits on their body than a Mayweather fight. I can't get mad at the chicas. With all the extra expenses they have to pay and all.You are probably wondering why I didn't save him from overpaying? I've learned over the last couple years to let a guy pay for his fantasy and let him enjoy it on his terms. Most have more money than time. Most of the overpayers look at me crazy for not doing it.
I am going back in a couple weeks- based on the continued discussion of rates on here I am assuming that the Hennesy and cola crowd have been working their magic again. Mongering at home has got more expensive too with less selection since COVID started but frankly it's better here than the last few times I went to Sosua. I don't go to Sosua to monger as much as to drink with my friends so I don't chase with the same ardor I used to. I might try the SA or Cupid route this winter. The market will return to normal sooner or later. For now if I run into decent pussy at a decent price I will bite. Otherwise I will let them find me. Or not. Does anyone know if Avianca is still flying to Bogota out of Santo Domingo- one thing seems for sure. If I want to see what has happened I will have to see for myself.
Coolie High
10-26-21, 08:46
One guy in out group paid 3 k pesos for a ten minute blowjob. Another guy paid 250 usd for 3 hours. These are rich guy who don't visit Sosua often and have big money. Overall it was good trip but mostly I spent my time keeping my buddies safe and watching the show.Wait a sec. 250 usd for just 3 hours? Were these dudes part of your group? Seriously what's the point of being around an OG Monger that knows the scene and country and NOT listen to their advice. Because I'm pretty sure you gave them the rundown on prices and what to expect etc. Thats the whole point in going down there with season vets, meeting expats in the area etc, you know those who have dealt with the Carribean Madness on the regular and can guide you thru NOT doing anything stupid like paying for a 10 min blowjob for 3000 peso.
This is the fundamental reason why I pushed to link up with you, Grownman, Oakie and the other monger gents. * So you can keep me from doing something stupid. I've seen it happen to the biggest tycoon sharks in Vegas so it can easily happen to the best of men that's NOT familiar with the Carribean Madness. I can see the whole senario play it now.
One of the boys from the group was drinking and eating good, hes feeling the music and here comes this sexy hunny that's just his type. From the outside looking in the fellas think this aint nothing but a fucking sea donkey OR at best a basic chic. But to him she's his "exact" type, as hes feeling nice from the good company and weather. He'll probably already have taken his viagra so now its Mr. Nasty time. He don't want to lose this hunny dip as hes now harder then chinese algebra. So what's the cost? She replies 250 United States Dollars (WTF). Now caught in the carribean haze, his thought process is, hell I paid more then that for a regular date with an older upscale fatty in the states and I don't feel like negotiating because I need this nut so fuck it lets do this. He pays the entry fee, gives her 2 pumps and a apology and she walks out less then 3 hours later coming up like fat rat with the look of I got this sucker.
Crazier part is that the next day dude is happy about his 2 pumps and a apology nut and brags to the gents like yeah I smashed that. Guys in his group tell him you paid WAY to much, this what you shouldve gave her BUT he don't care. Like J. G. Wentworth says, "Its his money", hes on vacation and that 2 min nut was worth it. He'll go on to start thinking about wifing the hoe up and putting her on the western union "sucker", I mean "love" train. You know because down there money will buy her love and loyalty to him as she'll bombard him with endless "Te Quiero" messages and promises that she won't deal with any other gringo or guys while hes away.
And just like that ALL logic and common sense gets thrown out the window as The Carribean Madness has now taken hold of him.
So yeah, don't be that guy!!
Yes, the Haitian girls have always been the backup plan when Dominicans aren't on my plan. Haitians are more appreciative, less problems and better in bed IMO.
If you can get them to buy you drinks, make you laugh and less than 2 k, that's a win win. Sounds like you found GFE in Sosua, very rare nowadays. But I have noticed my last couple trips to Sosua, even the Haitian girls becoming more business like.A few nights ago I pulled a cute little spinner, a Haitian, off the Strip named Dafny. What a piece of shit. We agreed to 2,000 Pesos and when we got to the room I told her I was going to shower and that she needed to take a shower as well. She completely refused to take a shower and I pleaded with her to do so explaining to her in Spanish that there was even hot water and she only needed to shower from the neck down and she completely refused, so I told her she had to leave and her clothes had never even come off. She demanded that I pay her 2,000 Pesos, and I said no, and that she was only getting 500 Pesos, and she still said no, and her clothes never came off.
I then told her I was going to call the Police and she started to get nervous upon hearing that the police might be involved.
I then took out a 500 Peso bill, and she said give it to me, and I told her no, that she would get it on the street.
She finally walked down to reception, security gave me her Cedula, and I walked out onto the street with her Cedula in my hand.
She said give me my Cedula, and I said no, she wasn't getting it back, and she started to freak out.
I than took her Cedula, and the 500 peso bill, and thru it across the street and told her she was a piece of shit, and she picked up her Cedula and 500 Peso bill and scampered off.
If I hadn't of given her anything there most probably would of been a problem at the Hotel which I didn't want.
So the following night she was out on the Strip again, and I walked up to her and asked her if she bathed today and she didn't say a word to me.
I can only imagine how many bad sessions she's delivered to guys with the fucking attitude she had, and how many guys she has taken advantage of, and ripped off in the sense that guys get frightened and just pay up.
A few nights ago I pulled a cute little spinner, a Haitian, off the Strip named Dafny. What a piece of shit. We agreed to 2,000 Pesos and when we got to the room I told her I was going to shower and that she needed to take a shower as well. She completely refused to take a shower and I pleaded with her to do so explaining to her in Spanish that there was even hot water and she only needed to shower from the neck down and she completely refused, so I told her she had to leave and her clothes had never even come off. She demanded that I pay her 2,000 Pesos, and I said no, and that she was only getting 500 Pesos, and she still said no, and her clothes never came off.
I then told her I was going to call the Police and she started to get nervous upon hearing that the police might be involved.
I then took out a 500 Peso bill, and she said give it to me, and I told her no, that she would get it on the street.
She finally walked down to reception, security gave me her Cedula, and I walked out onto the street with her Cedula in my hand.Kind of goes to my point that the Haitian girls have gotten more business like over the last year, even cheating guys. Luckily you were smart and played your hand right knowing that they don't need trouble with the police. But it also shows that with ugly fat Dominican girls asking and getting 100 usd that the Haitian girls don't want to be short changed. Refusing to take a shower is a new one for me but damn showering used to be mandatory.
Mr Enternational
10-28-21, 04:06
A few nights ago I pulled a cute little spinner, a Haitian, off the Strip named Dafny. What a piece of shit. We agreed to 2,000 Pesos and when we got to the room I told her I was going to shower and that she needed to take a shower as well. She completely refused to take a shower and I pleaded with her to do so explaining to her in Spanish that there was even hot water and she only needed to shower from the neck down and she completely refused, . She demanded that I pay her 2,000 Pesos, Dude that was your own fault. You should have taken her out to dinner and for drinks first.
Dude that was your own fault. You should have taken her out to dinner and for drinks first.As usual your correct. I should of wined and dined her first. Then when she push backed on the shower I should of said I'm going to give you 2,000 pesos more for a total of 4,000 pesos of which she probably would of said okay but it will cost another 3,000 pesos for a total of 5,000 Pesos if you want me to wash my panoche.
I kick myself for not being the gentlemen that I should of been with her, bowing to her demands, letting her call the shots, telling her it's no problem if she doesn't want to shower and ask her how much more money she wants to lick her sweaty stinky pussy.
It's almost like a mine field with some of the Chicas working the Strip. Some of them think there so cool. I love the ones that won't quote you a price. It's always, what will you pay me. One of them tried that on me and asked for how long and I told her a "rato" and she kept asking how much I would pay, and I said I don't know, and when I asked again how much, she had we had to negotiate. Dominican logic at it's finest.
I can only presume that there are a lot of stupid mongers here who are getting totally hosed, with a lot of these girls fleecing them and throwing temper tantrums in the room. The tables need to be turned on them whenever possible, but most guys are to timid and frightened to do so being in a foreign country and most not speaking Spanish.
And the scene inside Kings and the antics there is amusing, with girls quoting like $ 200 USD for an all nighter. Guys there have shown me the messages they have gotten from some of the girls.
Way different inside Kings then what goes on on the street.
And there are some very nasty skanky girls in and around the German bar as well who will do anything you want.
As usual your correct. I should of wined and dined her first. Then when she push backed on the shower I should of said I'm going to give you 2,000 pesos more for a total of 4,000 pesos of which she probably would of said okay but it will cost another 3,000 pesos for a total of 5,000 Pesos if you want me to wash my panoche.
I kick myself for not being the gentlemen that I should of been with her, bowing to her demands, letting her call the shots, telling her it's no problem if she doesn't want to shower and ask her how much more money she wants to lick her sweaty stinky pussy.
It's almost like a mine field with some of the Chicas working the Strip. Some of them think there so cool. I love the ones that won't quote you a price. It's always, what will you pay me. One of them tried that on me and asked for how long and I told her a "rato" and she kept asking how much I would pay, and I said I don't know, and when I asked again how much, she had we had to negotiate. Dominican logic at it's finest.
I can only presume that there are a lot of stupid mongers here who are getting totally hosed, with a lot of these girls fleecing them and throwing temper tantrums in the room. The tables need to be turned on them whenever possible, but most guys are to timid and frightened to do so being in a foreign country and most not speaking Spanish.
And the scene inside Kings and the antics there is amusing, with girls quoting like $ 200 USD for an all nighter. Guys there have shown me the messages they have gotten from some of the girls.
Way different inside Kings then what goes on on the street.
And there are some very nasty skanky girls in and around the German bar as well who will do anything you want.Sorry to hear about the shower episode. She must be a rarity, as most of these girls opted to take a shower without me even saying anything. Glad you didn't cave on the 2 K pesos when she pulled that bullshit. I think you're absolutely right about guys being too scared to handle their business. If they can't take the time to learn at least some basic Spanish, they certainly won't understand the cultural aspect of machismo. If they perceive a potential client as a weak target, the price goes up. This isn't the US, Canada, or Europe, feminism has no place here, so the man should always control the situation. This was literally my entire "interview" on the strip: Personally, I like big asses and black skin. So, when I saw a girl that met the criteria, the small talk was what's your name, how old are you, and how many kids do you have. Then, I'd ask her to turn around, and grab, squeeze, and shake her ass. If I liked her, I offered 1,500 pesos with room to bargain up to 2 K. If they didn't go for it, I said no and kept searching. Ones that I did bring back, I always mentioned the price we agreed upon to the person at the hotel taking the girl's ID. It was more for a physiological effect in case she wanted to pull anything. Once we got in the room, it was all smiles and fun with a good experience. Afterward, the majority would stay and chat for a little while before leaving. I never went in Kings to get a girl, and from the sound of it, I'm glad I didn't. Thanks for the report.
When things go south I try to get away as painlessly as posible. Haitian girls are safer then the Dominicans because they never want to involve the police. When it come to the police Haitians they are always wrong. Some Dominican chicas know cops and will call the police who will make you have an expensive bad time. Best defence is try fine the scammers before you take them home. Once you are in their hands the best thing you can do is get them out with as little cost as posible. Fighting with them is a losing propositon. Things can get very ugly quickly. Trust me you do not want to be in that position. I am very careful when it comes to new girls. If I get any hint of a bad character I push away. Never pick a girl when your judgement is inpaired.
Dude that was your own fault. You should have taken her out to dinner and for drinks first.
When things go south I try to get away as painlessly as posible. Haitian girls are safer then the Dominicans because they never want to involve the police. When it come to the police Haitians they are always wrong. Some Dominican chicas know cops and will call the police who will make you have an expensive bad time. Best defence is try fine the scammers before you take them home. Once you are in their hands the best thing you can do is get them out with as little cost as posible. Fighting with them is a losing propositon. Things can get very ugly quickly. Trust me you do not want to be in that position. I am very careful when it comes to new girls. If I get any hint of a bad character I push away. Never pick a girl when your judgement is inpaired.I think Mr. E is being sarcastic here, LOL.
Mr Enternational
10-28-21, 18:42
It's almost like a mine field with some of the Chicas working the Strip.
And there are some very nasty skanky girls in and around the German bar as well who will do anything you want.Meanwhile I just had a great session with a hooker at her apartment in Barranquilla, Colombia for $25. After I left she sent me a message asking what I am doing for the rest of the day. Long Live Sosua!
Mr Enternational
10-28-21, 18:47
I think Mr. E is being sarcastic here, LOL.I am just saying that he should have followed the advice of Sammon and MD for best results. He was trying to bore the chick with just ficky ficky. Should have wined and dined first for better service!
I like this too. I am with Sammon. Only "ficky ficky" is boring. I can have the same at home. Spending time in a restaurant or a bar with a nice girl before going to my room is better. And you will get a better service. Just my 5 Cent.
When things go south I try to get away as painlessly as posible. Haitian girls are safer then the Dominicans because they never want to involve the police. When it come to the police Haitians they are always wrong. Some Dominican chicas know cops and will call the police who will make you have an expensive bad time. Best defence is try fine the scammers before you take them home. Once you are in their hands the best thing you can do is get them out with as little cost as posible. Fighting with them is a losing propositon. Things can get very ugly quickly. Trust me you do not want to be in that position. I am very careful when it comes to new girls. If I get any hint of a bad character I push away. Never pick a girl when your judgement is inpaired.So what is your advice for pulling girls from the Strip for the first time.
I am not going to be wining and dining any of the Strip Chicas beforehand as I don't believe Mr. E was proposing. I haven't mongered in Sosua for many years, and am just here for a break from Medellin for a month and it's totally different. I would of never attempted to discipline a Chica like the Haitian in Colombia. Most of the girls there carry knives, and if you were to take their Cedula and threaten not give it to them they would come after you and you could be in a very ugly situation.
However the bullshit I'm experiencing here, and am hearing from others is because this is a foreigners mongering destination versus a locals mongering destination. And the girls are used to all the foreigners, and they know how to work it, and most guys here don't have the experience, or language skills to deal with problem Chicas, let alone vet them like guys that live here.
In a perfect world, what your proposing trying to vet the Strip Chicas can be very challenging, especially guys that are only here for short periods of time. Kind of like a roll of the dice, or maybe Russian roulette, but things seems way worse than many years ago when I would spend months at a time here.
I agree with you that when things go South with a Chica its best to try to diffuse the situation as best you can without a scene.
Kind of goes to my point that the Haitian girls have gotten more business like over the last year, even cheating guys. Luckily you were smart and played your hand right knowing that they don't need trouble with the police. But it also shows that with ugly fat Dominican girls asking and getting 100 usd that the Haitian girls don't want to be short changed. Refusing to take a shower is a new one for me but damn showering used to be mandatory.Showering is taken for granted in most of the countries. In Sosua I have experienced few girls who just wash their private parts only. They just want to get it over with quickly and run. Also they do not want to ruin their make up and fake hair.
Totally ruins the mood but what to do. Every once in a while you get lemons but cannot make lemonade with these.
The vaste majority of girls give great service. There is a reason 1000's of guys go to Sosua every year. Do not listen to guys who do not go to Sosua. It is not hard to see the hardcore girls and even most of them will give good service. The guys who get scammed often make basic mistakes that set them selves up. Not getting the price settled up front. Being drunk or high. Doing 3 some with girls you do not know. If you use basic common sence you avoid 90% of the problem girls and again they are the acceptions. Take a little time to talk to the the girl you are interested in. If she presures you to hard or seem desperate beware. Take your time when selectoing a girl there is no rush. The loner girls are often a little safer then then the girls in packs. Another warning sign are girls who promise everything upfront inclusding anal. These girls often get to the room and have differrent spin.
So what is your advice for pulling girls from the Strip for the first time.
I am not going to be wining and dining any of the Strip Chicas beforehand as I don't believe Mr. E was proposing. I haven't mongered in Sosua for many years, and am just here for a break from Medellin for a month and it's totally different. I would of never attempted to discipline a Chica like the Haitian in Colombia. Most of the girls there carry knives, and if you were to take their Cedula and threaten not give it to them they would come after you and you could be in a very ugly situation.
However the bullshit I'm experiencing here, and am hearing from others is because this is a foreigners mongering destination versus a locals mongering destination. And the girls are used to all the foreigners, and they know how to work it, and most guys here don't have the experience, or language skills to deal with problem Chicas, let alone vet them like guys that live here.
In a perfect world, what your proposing trying to vet the Strip Chicas can be very challenging, especially guys that are only here for short periods of time. Kind of like a roll of the dice, or maybe Russian roulette, but things seems way worse than many years ago when I would spend months at a time here.
I agree with you that when things go South with a Chica its best to try to diffuse the situation as best you can without a scene.
Mr Enternational
10-29-21, 01:51
There is a reason 1000's of guys go to Sosua every year. Several reasons actually: Because it is close to the USA, only English is needed, can pay in USD, can act like a rap star.
The vaste majority of girls give great service. There is a reason 1000's of guys go to Sosua every year. Do not listen to guys who do not go to Sosua. It is not hard to see the hardcore girls and even most of them will give good service. The guys who get scammed often make basic mistakes that set them selves up. Not getting the price settled up front. Being drunk or high. Doing 3 some with girls you do not know. If you use basic common sence you avoid 90% of the problem girls and again they are the acceptions. Take a little time to talk to the the girl you are interested in. If she presures you to hard or seem desperate beware. Take your time when selectoing a girl there is no rush. The loner girls are often a little safer then then the girls in packs. Another warning sign are girls who promise everything upfront inclusding anal. These girls often get to the room and have differrent spin.Good advice, and pretty much how I operate, yet I have seen guys struggling here trying to vet the Chicas, especially when they need to use the translator on a phone. For guys that speak Spanish and live here, it will be much easier to vet the Chicas.
I agree with all your points, and the biggest red flag of all are the Chicas that are very aggressive as you have pointed out.
A lot of times when I'm interested in a Chica, and after interviewing her everything seems like a go, I will politely blow them off, say maybe later, thanks for your time and walk. I intentionally do this to see how they react, and if they get upset, and are angry, I'm glad I walked. However, if they are kind and polite and say thanks, I usually do an about face and take them.
Again good pointers and hopefully other's will follow them.
The vaste majority of girls give great service. There is a reason 1000's of guys go to Sosua every year. Do not listen to guys who do not go to Sosua. It is not hard to see the hardcore girls and even most of them will give good service. The guys who get scammed often make basic mistakes that set them selves up. Not getting the price settled up front. Being drunk or high. Doing 3 some with girls you do not know. If you use basic common sence you avoid 90% of the problem girls and again they are the acceptions. Take a little time to talk to the the girl you are interested in. If she presures you to hard or seem desperate beware. Take your time when selectoing a girl there is no rush. The loner girls are often a little safer then then the girls in packs. Another warning sign are girls who promise everything upfront inclusding anal. These girls often get to the room and have differrent spin.After all the years we have been visiting the Dominican Republic I think we live in two different monger worlds, respectfully speaking. I have yet to hear about you having regulars that you enjoy spending time with, only el conde massage tricks are great and Sosua girls are great. Most regulars on this board have friends that they spend time with and trick on the side. I think you are missing the true essence of a veteran in the Dominican Republic. You say these new girls in the Dominican Republic give great service but again we have different opinions of what is great service. Seems to you great service is pounding on a girl 100 times, having her say" Leche papi" 20 times then she is gone. To me good service is a girl who is not an actress and lets you take your time and enjoys the experience so much that she wants more time with you. Sosua girls now are fast money with the less time IMO.
Guys go to Sosua because it's convenient and they don't have to know the language. You are correct about guys not getting girls properly IMO.
Showering is taken for granted in most of the countries. In Sosua I have experienced few girls who just wash their private parts only. They just want to get it over with quickly and run. Also they do not want to ruin their make up and fake hair.
Totally ruins the mood but what to do. Every once in a while you get lemons but cannot make lemonade with these.True it's the new game of seeing how much bullshit you can do to exit quickly. The mongering code basics are showering and using condoms for intercourse with a new girl. Real talk guys, learn basic Spanish and branch out. This has been preached many years. The Dominican Republic is full of adventure, just challenge yourself. Don't follow these basics and you are stuck with tricks in tourist areas. Damn, at least go to Puerto Plata or Cabarette and find yourself a girl who has enough self respect to not trick in Sosua. Sometimes I think these lazy thirsty dudes only deserve the worst the Dominican Republic has to offer. And it hurts me to say this but I'm being honest if you can't see the potential of the Dominican Republic.
Coolie High
10-29-21, 07:58
Meanwhile I just had a great session with a hooker at her apartment in Barranquilla, Colombia for $25. After I left she sent me a message asking what I am doing for the rest of the day. Long Live Sosua!Yeah you just mad because Sosua is probably the only place in the world where you can't use your pimp powers and convince a woman to have sex with you for 10 dollars and a lollipop jajajajaja.
Durandpaul
10-29-21, 11:17
Several reasons actually: Because it is close to the USA, only English is needed, can pay in USD, can act like a rap star.Just to add a few.
No need to take a cab, no traffic, everything within 5 min walk, girl friendly hotels, girls everywhere, good food, good hotel prices.
However, sosua girls are huslers most won't stay passed the agreed time to chill with you. They are thinking about the next client. Anybody who wants GFE all the time shouldn't go to sosua.
BTW you will rarely see 1 or 2 guys buying bottles in the vip with 5 chicas. It is always 5 to 10 guys sharing too bottles and getting the attention in the club. Rap and Hiphop is taking over the world, we all need to get use to see guys working at walmart acting like rap stars for a weekend.
After 12 years of visiting and living in Sosua I can tell you that a little common sense, and due diligence will prevent 99% of these rip off complaints.
Some guys put price ahead of quality. So they are always negotiating price on principle, whether it be a cab or moto ride, or a hotel toom, or a hooker. The locals pick up on that and it becomes a battle of wits, which always favours the providers.
The guys who shop around and negotiate everything from the cheapest room to the cheapest Cuba Libre, rarely develop a relationship to the providers, and the providers treat them as just numbers. Hotel and bar staff will go the extra mile for a regular customer, and it is a myth, that constantly arguing price is somehow "macho" and "respected", by the locals. By other cheap mongers, maybe, LOL.
Watch the locals, they know the intrinsic price of everything. Their transactions are straight forward, friendly, and nobody is walking away mad at the world.
I often get my lunch from the street barbeque. For me they charge 250 pesos, but my GF gets the same plate for 200. So I could stand there all day arguing and complaining about the "principle" of the thing, but it's easier to just let her pick up the lunch.
The whole country runs on bribes, propinas, tips. (TIPS = To Insure Prompt Service) Some bars don't pay their servers, who are happy to come in to a busy bar and rely on tips. It may not be "fair". But it is life.
And, when in Rome, as they say.
Now, you don't have to tip everybody you meet, but the wise use of tips to my regulars ensures, among other things, that my drink is on the table as soon as I walk in to my bars, that my moto guy, water bottle guy, publico driver puts me first on his list, and I can walk way from my bars saying, I'll pay you later. And I get extra towels and stuff from the cleaning lady. The night security guy is on my list too, so that when we bring the party back to my place, cedulas can be waived for regular friends.
If a guy is spending $thousands to get there from all over the world, tips are a negligible part of ensuring a smooth and happy stress free vacation.
Finally, taking a strange hooker off the street back to your room is always a risky business, so I would say get a cheap pre paid room, or a casa, where you can just walk out if things are not going well.
No need to wine and dine them, but a little conversation over a coke or a beer can work wonders to break the ice, and figure out the odds of a bad session.
And if things do go bad, first own it. You have made the bad choice! So like the OP say, suck it up and minimize the damage, and charge it up to experience. The folks you have developed a good relationship with in the bar, or the hotel, will likely take your side. There's absolutely no excuse for repeating your mistake.
Fact is, some guys are aggressive and militant by nature, they enjoy the adrenaline rush of confrontation, and they'll brag loudly to all, on how they beat "the system."
Meanwhile the smart hooker on the next bar stool who he has just insulted, is thinking how she can take this guy after a couple more Cuba Libres. LOL.
Just to add a few.
No need to take a cab, no traffic, everything within 5 min walk, girl friendly hotels, girls everywhere, good food, good hotel prices.
However, sosua girls are huslers most won't stay passed the agreed time to chill with you. They are thinking about the next client. Anybody who wants GFE all the time shouldn't go to sosua.Sosua is unique in many ways for guys coming from the East Coast of the USA. Great beaches, and basically all you have to do is show up, and boom your kind of like a piece of shit in the sense that instead of flies being all over you, the Chicas are all over you.
I used to be a regular here many years ago, and the place has changed, now it's predominately African American mongers, tons and tons of Haitians around, more so than Dominicans at times, and changes in the mongering / meet-up venues.
So many changes over the years, and it was much more predictable with the Chicas, now much more business like than before, and what I've observed that goes on in Kings versus the street is very different when say Latinos and all the places on the Strip were alive and well with the Police not hassling and chasing after the girls like they do every night here.
I know there are good Chicas on the street to be had, but vettng them can be rough. And it appears that most of the guys that show up here are here for a long weekend, and throwing money around is not an issue and the Chicas now this. Hence I believe we are all perceived as walking ATM machines, with the Chicas trying to milk us of our money any way they can, buy them drinks, buy them food, and get our leche as rapidly as possible when in the room.
Sosua is a perfect fit for a lot of guys, can be like shooting fish in a barrel, and actually isn't a bad place to monger for guys with no other mongering experience in the world.
Yet lots of the older DR veterans have moved on to other destinations given the changes that have occurred here.
I think I've read the first bad report of a Haitian in the DR. Not wanting to bathe. I'd hate to think the Haitians have started pulling shit in the DR. I really hate that leche papi shit those DR girls pull, really makes me angry. In my next visit to the DR I'm going to ask every girl I go with what part of the DR she's from, if Santiago its off to the zimmer as I can't remember ever having a bad service girl from there.
After 12 years of visiting and living in Sosua I can tell you that a little common sense, and due diligence will prevent 99% of these rip off complaints.
The whole country runs on bribes, propinas, tips. (TIPS = To Insure Prompt Service) Some bars don't pay their servers, who are happy to come in to a busy bar and rely on tips. It may not be "fair". But it is life.
And, when in Rome, as they say.
Now, you don't have to tip everybody you meet, but the wise use of tips to my regulars ensures, among other things, that my drink is on the table as soon as I walk in to my bars, that my moto guy, water bottle guy, publico driver puts me first on his list, and I can walk way from my bars saying, I'll pay you later. And I get extra towels and stuff from the cleaning lady. The night security guy is on my list too, so that when we bring the party back to my place, cedulas can be waived for regular friends.
If a guy is spending $thousands to get there from all over the world, tips are a negligible part of ensuring a smooth and happy stress free vacation..Yes, greasing the skids as I call it goes a long way. Giving tips, and the abbreviation of "To Insure Prompt Service" is a good one, I've never heard that before.
And as you mention, so many guys are such cheap charlies, and have spent big bucks to get here, yet don't get how things work here, or in most other third world Countries as well.
Even just giving someone a 50 Peso tip for the server of your drinks is huge for them, and chump change for most guys.
I tip all the help where I'm staying in Sosua, and am treated like a King. And when a provider does a good job that I want to repeat with, I tip them as well.
It's like night and day if you grease the skids, and your "two cents" is worth way more than that in dividends.
Your preaching to the choir on this in my book.
Triple Darknes
10-29-21, 16:28
True it's the new game of seeing how much bullshit you can do to exit quickly. The mongering code basics are showering and using condoms for intercourse with a new girl. Real talk guys, learn basic Spanish and branch out. This has been preached many years. The Dominican Republic is full of adventure, just challenge yourself. Don't follow these basics and you are stuck with tricks in tourist areas. Damn, at least go to Puerto Plata or Cabarette and find yourself a girl who has enough self respect to not trick in Sosua. Sometimes I think these lazy thirsty dudes only deserve the worst the Dominican Republic has to offer. And it hurts me to say this but I'm being honest if you can't see the potential of the Dominican Republic.Some bros are already branching out. Even the Youtubers are talking about Montellano and talking about 2 k or even sub 2 k for choice campo girls.
Hope this Helos.
Trip.
The vaste majority of girls give great service. There is a reason 1000's of guys go to Sosua every year. Do not listen to guys who do not go to Sosua. It is not hard to see the hardcore girls and even most of them will give good service..Come on Kool Stop gassing these guys heads up. I usually agree with a lot of things Kool says, but I have to disagree. IMHO The vast majority of chicas do not give great service. People do not go to the Su for great service, more so location, availability, and accessibility. Nor is the place known for great service. On the contrary; the Sue is known to give one of the worst services of popular monger destinations. I've been to Colombia, Cuba, and the DR Maybe over 70 times the last nine years. Anyone that says they are receiving great service has probably not been to any other places. They are almost worse than the person that never been to any place.
The Su is filled with poor independent chicas that have never had a job and don't have to report to a boss. The P4 P scene is a hustle The majority of chicas do not care about customer service nor take pride in her work. If you find a chica who provides great service she's a keeper and it will be wise to keep her contact. Many of us that frequent there have established regulars because great service is hard to come by.
What you will get is a huge selection of available chicas in a small area near the beach. Most people can expect average at best service. Good or better service is about skills, opportunity, and / or luck.
However the bullshit I'm experiencing here, and am hearing from others is because this is a foreigners mongering destination versus a locals mongering destination. And the girls are used to all the foreigners, and they know how to work it, and most guys here don't have the experience, or language skills to deal with problem Chicas, let alone vet them like guys that live here.
Man I see your point. When I look at areas such as Cartagena Colombia, Puta Cana and Sosua DR; these areas have a high volume of tourism and a correlation of higher and sometimes absurd asking prices.
In contrast, places like Cali Colombia, Boca chica (away from the strip) Dominican Republic, Havana Cuba, and Bogota Colombia where the local chicas are not dependent on tourist money the asking prices are lower. In Medellin the asking prices are higher in Club Gustos than any other club I have patronized in Medellin. Gusto is a popular club in Medellin where many mongers hang out.
Mr Enternational
10-29-21, 17:51
Even just giving someone a 50 Peso tip for the server of your drinks is huge for them,So what is the 5600 to 8500 pesos for service that most halfway decent chicks ask for?
Some bros are already branching out. Even the Youtubers are talking about Montellano and talking about 2 k or even sub 2 k for choice campo girls.
Hope this Helos.
Trip.Yo Trip, hope you are well? You are correct. I talked to a real estate agent who said development there is steady. I personally know 3 guys that have purchased in Montellano in the last year. The only problem is once the Youtubers start posting from anywhere the countdown starts on how long it will stay good. Montellano, La Union and a few other towns have always been nice spots to go post up at a colmodo during the day and meet girls.
Yes, greasing the skids as I call it goes a long way. Giving tips, and the abbreviation of "To Insure Prompt Service" is a good one, I've never heard that before.
And as you mention, so many guys are such cheap charlies, and have spent big bucks to get here, yet don't get how things work here, or in most other third world Countries as well.
Even just giving someone a 50 Peso tip for the server of your drinks is huge for them, and chump change for most guys.
I tip all the help where I'm staying in Sosua, and am treated like a King. And when a provider does a good job that I want to repeat with, I tip them as well.
It's like night and day if you grease the skids, and your "two cents" is worth way more than that in dividends.
Your preaching to the choir on this in my book.That was a good post by Oakie but my tipping is different depending on the establishment. If it's a local establishment and I'm a regular there, and they know my name, I will leave a small tip. If it's a big business and they do the tax and tip in the bill as extras, usually I leave 50 pesos or nothing at all. If the customer service is lousy I don't tip and don't return. If I'm sitting there 10 minutes and they haven't even brought me a menu and I see the waitresses texting and flirting with the Dominican dudes, I play it according.
I usually ask for my check when they bring my food because getting the check can sometimes take longer than the food. When drinking I keep my bill small, usually two drinks and pay after those are gone and start a new bill. They hate when I do that but if you have a big bill and have been drinking I'm sure when you check the bill you will see an add on.
Dominicans are going to do things the way they want even if you tell them different. I can tell them separate checks and they will still bring one big bill. Two days ago I ordered a pizza with everything no corn (Maiz). When the pizza came up and the girl handed it to me I said no corn right and she said no corn. Something said check it while she was standing there and guess what, it had corn. I just starred at the girl and she said don't get mad just scrape the corn off. To her I'm the unreasonable person.
If you watch Dominicans they hardly ever tip and have no shame doing so.
Last week I'm at the Treehouse on the beach and the newbie got his bill and jumped out his seat cussing so I asked what's wrong. He said look at this shit and handed me the bill he received. It said 365 which was good for three drinks but he thought it was 365 usd LOL.
I should define great service, if I can bust a nut have no problems with the girl that is great for me. The guys who go to Sosua enjoy food, beach and fellowship but alll of that is secondary to the girls. Most guys are looking to bang as many as they can. They could give a dam about GFE. The girls know this and make no effort to procvide it. I am getting very good servivce from the chicas I am dealing with. I am 60 plus and know what good sex is. I will be in Sosua next week and couold not be happier. When I am no longer satified I will consider other locals.
Come on Kool Stop gassing these guys heads up. I usually agree with a lot of things Kool says, but I have to disagree. IMHO The vast majority of chicas do not give great service. People do not go to the Su for great service, more so location, availability, and accessibility. Nor is the place known for great service. On the contrary; the Sue is known to give one of the worst services of popular monger destinations. I've been to Colombia, Cuba, and the DR Maybe over 70 times the last nine years. Anyone that says they are receiving great service has probably not been to any other places. They are almost worse than the person that never been to any place.
The Su is filled with poor independent chicas that have never had a job and don't have to report to a boss. The P4 P scene is a hustle The majority of chicas do not care about customer service nor take pride in her work. If you find a chica who provides great service she's a keeper and it will be wise to keep her contact. Many of us that frequent there have established regulars because great service is hard to come by.
What you will get is a huge selection of available chicas in a small area near the beach. Most people can expect average at best service. Good or better service is about skills, opportunity, and / or luck.
So what is the 5600 to 8500 pesos for service that most halfway decent chicks ask for?Sometimes your posts are bit cryptic, but I think you might be referring to is the bullshit some of the Chicas in Kings are trying to pull on guys there. Two guys who hang there have shown me some of the quotes they've gotten which they laugh at which typically start in USD with quotes like $ 200 for TLN's and more.
And I know some of girls in Kings are getting big bucks there, and more power to them if they can. You can't blame them for asking for a lot as they have nothing to lose, I would if I was a hooker.
Even the girls out on the Strip throw out crazy numbers at times, or play the "how much you pay me game".
And lots of guys are paying in USD as evidenced by all the Chicas I see at the exchange houses. They sure aren't there to change Pesos.
Mr Enternational
10-29-21, 23:14
Sometimes your posts are bit cryptic,You were saying a 50 peso tip to a restaurant worker is huge to them, so I was inducing that the $100 or $150 that chicks in Sosua are asking must be some really out of this world shit akin to hitting the lottery.
I should define great service, if I can bust a nut have no problems with the girl that is great for me. The guys who go to Sosua enjoy food, beach and fellowship but alll of that is secondary to the girls. Most guys are looking to bang as many as they can. They could give a dam about GFE. The girls know this and make no effort to procvide it. I am getting very good servivce from the chicas I am dealing with. I am 60 plus and know what good sex is.So if you can swallow your food at KFC it's great service? OG Kool I have too much respect for you to even think you wouldn't know what great service is. However you just said that great service to you is the ability to bus a nut. I wish that was true for me. Most of us will agree the GFE is the best experience you can get from a chica. It's what Separates average service from great.
I most think guys want the great service they can get from a chica regardless of the amount chica they session. I also think that most chicas want the most money they can get from a guy regardless of service.
You were saying a 50 peso tip to a restaurant worker is huge to them, so I was inducing that the $100 or $150 that chicks in Sosua are asking must be some really out of this world shit akin to hitting the lottery.Okay, now that you have deciphered your post I get what your saying.
I should define great service, if I can bust a nut have no problems with the girl that is great for me. The guys who go to Sosua enjoy food, beach and fellowship but alll of that is secondary to the girls. Most guys are looking to bang as many as they can. They could give a dam about GFE. The girls know this and make no effort to procvide it. I am getting very good servivce from the chicas I am dealing with. I am 60 plus and know what good sex is. I will be in Sosua next week and couold not be happier. When I am no longer satified I will consider other locals.I find it hard to believe that the guys coming here don't give a darn about GFE.
Lets forget about what GFE stands for a minute as I think we may be confusing it with girls that are good performers versus a girlfriend.
Lets look at a situation where a girl goes to the room with a guy, and the girl is a total dead fish, versus a girl that is into it and kissing and caressing the guy during the act.
Now lets talk about busting a nut.
I find it hard to believe that guys that come here want to be banging a dead fish.
I'm an old fart like you, and don't have a hair trigger like some of the young whipper snappers here, and if a girl is a dead fish, I'm going to have a hard time busting a nut with them, and I believe the same holds true for a lot of the guys here.
So I'm having a hard time accepting that guys coming here would be content going with a "dead fish" in other words not caring for GFE.
Yet perhaps we may be confusing GFE with girls that are good performers, who know how to get guys off, but not really acting as a girlfriend, meaning they are not getting off as well but just getting the guys off.
Within this context, things make more sense to me where your coming from.
Mr Enternational
10-30-21, 01:09
I should define great service, if I can bust a nut have no problems with the girl that is great for me.As I have always said, bolonga sandwiches taste great to a person that has never had a porterhouse steak. If it fills my belly it is just fine. You can't miss what you never had.
Tempoecorto
10-30-21, 02:33
Boy, I guess we have had this conversation a million times.
The weekend warriors most likely do not care for such grand analysis: "Wham bam, thank why ma'am" crowd that they apparently are. I do not know one personally but reading this forum, this is my impression. So what does it matter whether the service is great or not, as long as they can hit their numbers?
Personally, I have been to Sosua about 50 times in the last ten years or so and this after a long career in Asia and Europe tasting exoticas and I still find "Sosua" - actually the whole island, very appetizing. The proximity is the key reason and the second one is the availability of women, without drama. I do not walk the streets and do not go to the clubs and have no "bad" experience to speak of. So far. Women come, eat and drink (not many care for alcohol even though I have had people who can drink, almost always the Mexican Corona, like a fish and then they take to dancing the bachata. What good time!
I think, we should just let this go. Each to his own taste, GFE or not, it does not matter. Respect to all.
Oakie, it was great to see your mastery over the acronym (TIP); Now what about "POSH"? (smiley).
Durandpaul
10-30-21, 02:54
Sosua is a perfect fit for a lot of guys, can be like shooting fish in a barrel, and actually isn't a bad place to monger for guys with no other mongering experience in the world.
Yet lots of the older DR veterans have moved on to other destinations given the changes that have occurred here.Not everybody has the luxury to monger for more than 4 days. The most I can do in a year is 3 weeks total with each trip being 4 days on average.
Not everybody is retired and divorced with the freedom to go anywhere.
The reason sosua is still go to sosua is because it works for my situation. My favorite destination is Bangkok it is like vegas on steroid even though the girls aren't what I really dreamed about.
So far my only issue with columbia, which is the closest other destination to me, is the hotels not being girl friendly. Since most of my trip are usually not planned in advance I don't have time to call the airbnb host to check with them.
Long story short, sosua works for me to get a bunch of nuts without too much coordination.
Durandpaul
10-30-21, 03:06
Sometimes your posts are bit cryptic, but I think you might be referring to is the bullshit some of the Chicas in Kings are trying to pull on guys there. Two guys who hang there have shown me some of the quotes they've gotten which they laugh at which typically start in USD with quotes like $ 200 for TLN's and more.$200 or more are outliers. If a girl quotes $200 I don't even try to negotiate. And in many cases it means the girl is fine, but can not handle many dicks in a day. Also many of the girls who asks for $200 or more have western union boyfriends, and the best way to add another one to the roster is to find that guy willing to pay $200.
So far my only issue with columbia, which is the closest other destination to me, is the hotels not being girl friendly. Since most of my trip are usually not planned in advance I don't have time to call the airbnb host to check with them.I suggest you read the Medellin thread for Colombia. If you monger in El Centro, plenty of short time love motels available so no need to have a girl friendly Airbnb if you can roll in Centro. All you need to do is show up, and it will be no different than the Strip, with lots of Chicas available during the day versus the nighttime.
Triple Darknes
10-31-21, 06:33
Yo Trip, hope you are well? You are correct. I talked to a real estate agent who said development there is steady. I personally know 3 guys that have purchased in Montellano in the last year. The only problem is once the Youtubers start posting from anywhere the countdown starts on how long it will stay good. Montellano, La Union and a few other towns have always been nice spots to go post up at a colmodo during the day and meet girls.You see that they're trying to move the action away from the beach up near Anhvee and the Casinos a lot of beach businesses are moving to Puerto Plata's Malecon. Big the set up shop in POP and Zanzibars is closed. With Classico's being closed everything will slowly move to Puerto Plata and even to Montellano the land is cheap and the campo chicas are partially un ran through.
Once the youtubers mention it prices for everything goes up.
Hope this Helps.
Trip.
You see that they're trying to move the action away from the beach up near Anhvee and the Casinos a lot of beach businesses are moving to Puerto Plata's Malecon. Big the set up shop in POP and Zanzibars is closed. With Classico's being closed everything will slowly move to Puerto Plata and even to Montellano the land is cheap and the campo chicas are partially un ran through.
Once the youtubers mention it prices for everything goes up.
Hope this Helps.
Trip.I heard a story today which is hard to believe but who really knows what's happening there? They said two big resorts want to book end Sosua beach with big 1000 room resorts at the Sosua end and the Charmicos end. The beach would be private for the guests only. I don't think the Dominican authorities would give up Sosua beach that easily. But with jobs and a new tax base, who knows exactly?
You are right about new things happening in Puerto Plata. Last year I stayed at Pueblito beach in Puerto Plata. The community was run down but the beach was beautiful. Since then investors have updated the properties and the beach is now a late night party spot for the people who know.
Development for the average guys like us is moving out of Sosua while big money might be moving in. Puerto Plata has been a flower waiting to bloom. The malecon is hot for investors and the little towns outside of Puerto Plata are coming up quietly. Maimon has the cruise ships. I passed through a little town and I noticed the streets were new and freshly paved. The girls were going to jobs. It's called embert or something like that.
A little report after 2 weeks in Sosua. It was my first stay in Sosua and also my last. I don't need this nonsense again.
I brought 8 girls to my room (all Haitian):
I kicked three girls out for not doing a BJ. One of them said to me: "No BJ and only one position" LOL. Each gave 500 DOP for a taxi.
Three other girls were OK but nothing special. Two of them had at least 3 babies and looked accordingly. I almost wanted to make the light out. Each 3 K DOP.
Two were really good. Wow. Beautiful and sexy body. Good performance. Funny. Booked them twice. Each 4 K DOP.
I have been to Thailand, the Philippines, Indonesia, Kenya and Tanzania very often. And of course I know the German FKK clubs (I am German).
The DR is by far the worst I've ever experienced. I went there because it was the easiest option because of Corona. The girls here are completely overpaid and offer minimal service. And there is also only short time, which means "You come I go". I can also have a quicky in Germany. For less money. In Asia or Africa they are happy if they can stay with you. You have more sex and get another BJ in the morning if you want.
Some US guys I saw in the hotel said to me: "Another day in paradise". I think they just haven't seen anything else.
. Big the set up shop in POP and Zanzibars is closed. With Classico's being closed everything will slowly move to Puerto Plata and even to Montellano the land is cheap and the campo chicas are partially un ran through.
Once the youtubers mention it prices for everything goes up.
Hope this Helps.
Trip.I doubt Montellano will blow up. People like the luxury of being in the Sue even if they don't per take on much of the P4 P seen. Montellano Offers nothing. Dominican republic have other cities they can better replace the Su. Places like Cabarete, Naqua, and PP would be better alternatives. Especially Cabarete. I don't know why this town is slept on. Gogo talked briefly about it. It's 15 minutes away from the Sue and gives Similar and sometimes better Beach, restaurants, and hotel accommodation. The su can only offer a higher concentration of chicas. The Su is just the place where many ex pat lives and many of us are custom to vacationing.
Even in its current condition; one can still get a better than sex prison satisfaction from the area. Regardless of the constant harassment from the police to the Chicas; the Su beats on. Chicas that go to the Su understand the risks and are willing to deal with The chance of incarceration. It won't be until the mongers have had enuff will something give. To quote my OG Vet O Kool; " when I am no longer satisfied I will consider other locals".
Manizales911
10-31-21, 14:31
I doubt Montellano will blow up. People like the luxury of being in the Sue even if they don't per take on much of the P4 P seen. Montellano Offers nothing. Dominican republic have other cities they can better replace the Su. Places like Cabarete, Naqua, and PP would be better alternatives. Especially Cabarete. I don't know why this town is slept on. Gogo talked briefly about it. It's 15 minutes away from the Sue and gives Similar and sometimes better Beach, restaurants, and hotel accommodation. The su can only offer a higher concentration of chicas. The Su is just the place where many ex pat lives and many of us are custom to vacationing.
Even in its current condition; one can still get a better than sex prison satisfaction from the area. Regardless of the constant harassment from the police to the Chicas; the Su beats on. Chicas that go to the Su understand the risks and are willing to deal with The chance of incarceration. It won't be until the mongers have had enuff will something give. To quote my OG Vet O Kool; " when I am no longer satisfied I will consider other locals".Sosua and Cabarete are apples and oranges. Cabarete beach is not swimmable for a lot of people, prices across the board are more expensive than the Sew. And the chica scene well, I don't even have to explain that one, remember Elvis operated in Cabarete for many many years and then he was kicked out. I like Cabarete but if I was a visiting monger I wouldn't be staying in Cabarete, a day trip is cool but not an entire vacation.
Montellano is never going to replace Sosua for a lot of reasons. That said, if you like going off the ship and aren't a chicken shit Montellano is a gold mine, just have a good handle on your spanish and behave yourself.
Tempoecorto
11-01-21, 00:52
A little report after 2 weeks in Sosua. It was my first stay in Sosua and also my last. I don't need this nonsense again.
Some US guys I saw in the hotel said to me: "Another day in paradise". I think they just haven't seen anything else.It is true that for many US persons, the DR is the first place they have seen outside of their own country. Having said that and given that you are a "German", please explain, why there is a large contingent of Germans living in SOS and around.
It is a different ballgame in Germany and while staid and sanitized, I love the FKKs, not to speak of Reeperbahn. But nowadays those predominantly front East European women. I would any day have a local woman, as in the DR, who I can also chat, eat, dance before, during and after coitus.
Triple Darknes
11-01-21, 01:58
I heard a story today which is hard to believe but who really knows what's happening there? They said two big resorts want to book end Sosua beach with big 1000 room resorts at the Sosua end and the Charmicos end. The beach would be private for the guests only. I don't think the Dominican authorities would give up Sosua beach that easily. But with jobs and a new tax base, who knows exactly?
You are right about new things happening in Puerto Plata. Last year I stayed at Pueblito beach in Puerto Plata. The community was run down but the beach was beautiful. Since then investors have updated the properties and the beach is now a late night party spot for the people who know.
Development for the average guys like us is moving out of Sosua while big money might be moving in. Puerto Plata has been a flower waiting to bloom. The malecon is hot for investors and the little towns outside of Puerto Plata are coming up quietly. Maimon has the cruise ships. I passed through a little town and I noticed the streets were new and freshly paved. The girls were going to jobs. It's called embert or something like that.Building resorts on the beach has been on the cards for almost twenty years Cuba Dave was talking about this in 2011. That's why I think there's a push to move everything up by the casinos. To get that prime real estate that you need for a Sandals style resort. People are there there's the airport at POP Punta Cana is for the wealthy vacationers a couple of resorts can attract mid tier US and Canadian vacationers but for that to happen the beach needs to be cleaned up.
Frankly that's literally the only reason why Classico's is still closed. I even saw flyers printed for Holloween yet they didn't open. This is not a "Sosua's dead" post but I can see people moving over to Puerto Plata which would be harder to gentrify because the businesses on the Malecon are more established, locally owned and not sexually oriented.
Happy Holloween everyone.
Trip.
Triple Darknes
11-01-21, 02:16
I doubt Montellano will blow up. People like the luxury of being in the Sue even if they don't per take on much of the P4 P seen. Montellano Offers nothing. Dominican republic have other cities they can better replace the Su. Places like Cabarete, Naqua, and PP would be better alternatives. Especially Cabarete. I don't know why this town is slept on. Gogo talked briefly about it. It's 15 minutes away from the Sue and gives Similar and sometimes better Beach, restaurants, and hotel accommodation. The su can only offer a higher concentration of chicas. The Su is just the place where many ex pat lives and many of us are custom to vacationing.
Even in its current condition; one can still get a better than sex prison satisfaction from the area. Regardless of the constant harassment from the police to the Chicas; the Su beats on. Chicas that go to the Su understand the risks and are willing to deal with The chance of incarceration. It won't be until the mongers have had enuff will something give. To quote my OG Vet O Kool; " when I am no longer satisfied I will consider other locals".The Su will always be the Su even if they slap a resort on it, There's nothing stopping a monger to get one of the many pleasant Hotels in Caberete and fire up Tinder and have a chick from Pedro in your room in 30 minutes tops. I know dudes who spent fight night at the Anhvee collected numbers and had them delivered to their Airbnb's in Caberette. That being said Cab is for women mongers not Male mongers so it would be somewhat awkward for a small beach town to be both a Hoe deport and a Sanky panky paradise. Chics don't want Men to see them trick I think they think it "red pills" Men too hard.
But what I meant was Montellano will be for VETERAN Mongers who get chased out by overpaying simps in the Sue. I have zero desire to visit the Anhvee because the insane prices but just like I smashed a chick for 2 K on the bus ride up on her way to the Anhvee and another on her way back from the Anhvee for what she said was a slow weekend Vets will start to range pass the Sue and hunt in smaller towns on the north coast. A guy we know bought a place in Miches and he has an insane view of the beach for dirt cheap. Miches is not far from Bavaro but way cheaper and although it's not a mngering destination a Domincan chick who's a well known stripper in DC Introduced me to her friend who I fucked in Santo Domingo. But despite the girl being a campo girl she had a three year situationship with an Argentine dude. Like I said there's youtubers who talk about secret beaches in POP and the "river" It's only a matter of time before savvy mongers start ranging out and getting cut rate coochie in the campos.
Hope this Helps.
Trip.
Triple Darknes
11-01-21, 02:27
Sosua and Cabarete are apples and oranges. Cabarete beach is not swimmable for a lot of people, prices across the board are more expensive than the Sew. And the chica scene well, I don't even have to explain that one, remember Elvis operated in Cabarete for many many years and then he was kicked out. I like Cabarete but if I was a visiting monger I wouldn't be staying in Cabarete, a day trip is cool but not an entire vacation.
Montellano is never going to replace Sosua for a lot of reasons. That said, if you like going off the ship and aren't a chicken shit Montellano is a gold mine, just have a good handle on your spanish and behave yourself.That's my point. Like I said Cab is "nicer" and quieter and has more non mongering activities Playa Sosua has too many hustlers to be anything more than a Hoe Depot unless the Beach was completely cleaned out.
But a frustrated Sosua vet who has more than 20 trips? And speaks Spanish? I guy like that could go to a Colmodo in Montellano and pick a low mileage compo cuties for maybe 1200 to 1500 DOP full GFE none of that "leche Papi" bullshit.
Again the cats already out of the bag Montellano is not a replacement for the Sue it's strictly for Live Men not for FreshMen.
But I don't know if this is true but cats wearing the same T-shirts and hats passing out shirts to girls with Mangoes on them would be enough for me to head out if that was true.
Hope this Helps.
Trip.
NeilGeorge
11-01-21, 02:49
Sosua Inn Hotel- should I reserve a room for 2? First floor? Are they chica friendly?
Baileys Restaurant- is this a great place to meet chicas? Have heard there are some stunners there. 8 and 9's? What's the best approach to them?
A little report after 2 weeks in Sosua. It was my first stay in Sosua and also my last. I don't need this nonsense again.
I brought 8 girls to my room (all Haitian):
I kicked three girls out for not doing a BJ. One of them said to me: "No BJ and only one position" LOL. Each gave 500 DOP for a taxi.
Three other girls were OK but nothing special. Two of them had at least 3 babies and looked accordingly. I almost wanted to make the light out. Each 3 K DOP.
Two were really good. Wow. Beautiful and sexy body. Good performance. Funny. Booked them twice. Each 4 K DOP.
I have been to Thailand, the Philippines, Indonesia, Kenya and Tanzania very often. And of course I know the German FKK clubs (I am German).
The DR is by far the worst.
Some US guys I saw in the hotel said to me: "Another day in paradise". I think they just haven't seen anything else.The last time I was in the Sue and had a new Haitian her sense of entitlement befuddled me. We agreed on 2000 however she gave it back to me and demanded more. I don't think she gave a BBBJ. The situation could have gotten out of hand.
Someone said earlier the Haitians are taking on the Dominican mentality and business practice. In the passes; the Haitians were revered for offering better service with less stress than and Dominicans. I think the quality will continue to diminish until a major change takes place.
Mr Enternational
11-01-21, 04:13
A little report after 2 weeks in Sosua. It was my first stay in Sosua and also my last. I don't need this nonsense again.Looks like you did not follow your own advice of taking them out to eat and drink first! You are also supposed to question and vet them like Old Kool advised. Oh and all the TIPS that Oakie said you should give. Plenty of good advice to coax those hookers into doing what you are paying them to do in the first place.
Some US guys I saw in the hotel said to me: "Another day in paradise". I think they just haven't seen anything else.LOL. I have been saying that for years. Maybe I am not crazy after all.
Mr Enternational
11-01-21, 04:25
I'm an old fart like you, and don't have a hair trigger like some of the young whipper snappers here, and if a girl is a dead fish, I'm going to have a hard time busting a nut with them, and I believe the same holds true for a lot of the guys here.You are forgetting about his secret weapon. Old Kool pays the chicks to let him give them massages. Then when they are right about to get into dead fish mode, he chases them around the room with a vibrator. That gets them to squirming.
Looks like you did not follow your own advice of taking them out to eat and drink first!.Unfortunately, this is not possible in Sosua. Otherwise it would be better there. The girls are calibrated to "fuck and forget". This is not my world.
The last time I was in the Sue and had a new Haitian her sense of entitlement befuddled me. We agreed on 2000 however she gave it back to me and demanded more. I don't think she gave a BBBJ. The situation could have gotten out of hand.
Someone said earlier the Haitians are taking on the Dominican mentality and business practice. In the passes; the Haitians were revered for offering better service with less stress than and Dominicans. I think the quality will continue to diminish until a major change takes place.Unfortunately I don't see what change could take place that would cause anything to get better in Sosua. Maybe I'm missing something here, or maybe a lot of guys who think they are in paradise really don't know what good service is, and are used to getting upcharged and the antics pulled as being "normal".
I also think a lot of guys have no Spanish speaking skills, have to rely on a translator, and it is not clear on exactly what is to be included, so the girls take advantage of this.
I came here for a break from Colombia, and am looking forward to getting back there within a few weeks.
Not sure if I will come back here again, but do have very fond memories of times past here.
I do know though that some guys that come here have it wired. On Saturday night I was hanging in front of the Sosua liquor store and a bunch of girls would be hanging out on the street and guys would show up in SUV's, point to one or more girls they liked, and they would hop in and go with them. Apparently groups of guys are renting villas and picking girls up, paying them something like 5,000 Pesos for the night to party and I don't know much more than that except what I was told by the guys working the liquor store. The same thing was also going on at Bailees, lots of girls hanging around waiting and hoping that guys would take them as you could see them being stuffed into the waiting vans.
So with that being said, yes there are some guys who are in Paradise here.
The price for a Moto Concho is 50 pesos. When we give a chica 500 peso for a "taxi" we only reinforce their beliefs that we are stupid and don't know anything. It can also activate their greed to overprice us in all business transactions.
Mr Enternational
11-01-21, 19:00
Unfortunately I don't see what change could take place that would cause anything to get better in Sosua. Maybe I'm missing something here, or maybe a lot of guys who think they are in paradise really don't know what good service is, and are used to getting upcharged and the antics pulled as being "normal".Years ago I was ridiculed when I compared guys going to Sosua to battered spouses that have never been in a loving relationship where they are not abused. After so long they see the abuse as normal and what is supposed to take place. Looks like you have witnessed that same thing. Time for you to be ridiculed too.
Reminds me of the time when I was in court for custody of my daughter and the judge askes her mom, if she could go somewhere and start doing better, wouldn't you want that? Her mom said no. Just like telling Sosua guys hey man over in such and such chicks will go above and beyond and you will very rarely encounter this type of bullshit. They say, no thanks. Nevermind how I am treated. I just want to get my nut.
Sosua Inn Hotel- should I reserve a room for 2? First floor? Are they chica friendly?
Baileys Restaurant- is this a great place to meet chicas? Have heard there are some stunners there. 8 and 9's? What's the best approach to them?Yes Sosua Inn is very guest friendly and yes Baileys is a great place to meet girls. The approach is very simple, if you see someone you like make eye contact and then tell them to come over. Hand them your phone with the whatsapp contacts up so they can put in their number so you can negotiate later.
Tempoecorto
11-01-21, 20:28
Years ago I was ridiculed when I compared guys going to Sosua to battered spouses that have never been in a loving relationship where they are not abused. After so long they see the abuse as normal and what is supposed to take place. Looks like you have witnessed that same thing. Time for you to be ridiculed too.It is an exercise in futility! What is the point of all these "I was right" proclamations? Few people have the financial resources (or perhaps an airline steward's job) that allow traveling and make comparisons. Those that have never been anywhere else, and may not ever, for whatever reason, what's the point of telling them that they should eat cake as bread is apparently bad for them?
Look folks, the point of this board is to exchange information good and bad. We can all agree that Sosua is different than five years ago, to say otherwise is a hit on your credibility IMO. Complaints or appreciation are what we need to make an informed decision. We have been given tipping info, vetting info and other perspectives that should be remembered by every traveler.
Times have changed and so have people, myself included. Before I would take a newbie under my wing, give him the basic rules and make sure he was safe. Now I understand that nowadays guys have their own agenda and don't care what you say. With this in mind my new mentality is let the guy enjoy his fantasy, he paid for it. Guys and girls have fucked up Sosua so we need new reports and the veterans chiming in with commentary.
The Dominican Republic is great travel destination. Some appreciate it and others take it for granted. All the information is there so we can't keep harping the same basics. Just go back over the last year and do your own homework. Personal attacks on people and their professions outside mongering lines is not acceptable and degrades the board.
Newbies will get their mongering style by veterans who offer different perspectives. Some veterans are cheap and require the basics. Others want.
New experiences and explore. Some want to get a nut, while others want GFE. It's still fantasy island and you can design your own happiness. But you got to pay for it.
Coolie High
11-02-21, 07:42
Montellano is never going to replace Sosua for a lot of reasons. That said, if you like going off the ship and aren't a chicken shit Montellano is a gold mine, just have a good handle on your spanish and behave yourself.Damn I missed out on mining Montellano. Crazy thing is I literally at one point was driving from Las Canas where I had a villa by the beach which is like 15 minutes away from the heart of Cabarette to Montellano damn near every other day for a week. One reason being was at the time I was dealing with an older hunny dip I call the Dominican Big Booty Judy that knew of a clinic that does std testing on a Sunday which was rare because most places are close on Sunday. So we drive all the way up there on a Sunday. Actually had to go to the doctors house to pick her up first and then took her to her office to get tested. Had to pay a little extra since they were technically closed (3000 pesos) but got my results back in 3 hrs. They also did my girl from the states covid testing as well a week later. But it never occurred to me to check out more of Montellano. Went pass the big soccer field where the locals play, saw how cheap the cost of living was there as I saw for rent signs but didn't investigate more. Shouldve ask where's the local bar at and the times I went I didn't see alot of hunnies walking around that caught my eye. When I went to La Union a few times though I was noticing alot of hunnies but that's for another story. Definitely will take sometime and explore those areas more.
My only issue will now become making time for gold mining new pussy in montenallno. As you know youll find good quality pussy that will share her friends and / or join in the festivities with you. Then her friends share her friends etc so a man can get lazy down there.
But theres something to be said about mining for a young tight body stallion with very few mileage on her that can be had for less then 2 number fives and a Mcflurry at McDonald's. So yeah Ima take your advice, continue to get my spanish up, get a shovel and get to digging in Montellano.
Coolie High
11-02-21, 08:13
Ooh and here's a snap shot of my Dominican Big Booty Judy. Ass so phat that ass should be worship by indegenous people. Thicker then racial tension here in the states jajajajajaja.
It is an exercise in futility! What is the point of all these "I was right" proclamations? Few people have the financial resources (or perhaps an airline steward's job) that allow traveling and make comparisons. Those that have never been anywhere else, and may not ever, for whatever reason, what's the point of telling them that they should eat cake as bread is apparently bad for them?.Just more SDS from the usual Sosua haters. They need to stroke their own obviously bruised egos, by insulting other people and their personal choices, as being either too dumb to know any better, or worse to actually enjoy getting ripped off. Some folks never move on, they got to come in here and badmouth the place, like a guy who comes into the same restaurant every day and berates the customers. It's a little weird.
But things are tightening up in Sosua now, accommodations are at a premium with a record influx of visitors expected now that the airlines are cranking up again.
They come from all over the world, Germany, Holland, and Scadinavia. It's helpful to speak German here.
And they know a thing or two about the P4P business back home.
So Sosua will continue to thrive, as long as prostitution is legal, and folks prefer the Dominican bootie to the white bread back home, or the Asian "love you long time" crowd.
Here's some Dominican bootie I like.
Unfortunately I don't see what change could take place that would cause anything to get better in Sosua. Maybe I'm missing something here, or maybe a lot of guys who think they are in paradise really don't know what good service is, and are used to getting upcharged and the antics pulled as being "normal".
.IHHO The Sue has its heart cut out and that's why it's experiencing it's decline. The heart of the Sue was the strip. It was were most of the action concentrated. They had everything from SW, pickpockets, motoconcho, Street vendors, and beggars. It was the perfect postop spot. You can just sit and watch the parade of 100's of chicas while you enjoy your drink. Smaller bars were patronized as tourists and street walkers come and go. Hanging on the strip is where you and I first met surfer and had a few drinks enjoying the scenery.
When my friends and I will arrive in the Sue we didn't report to our hotel. We went straight to the strip. It was live in entertaining. There were enough chicas for everyone. From the ex-pats to the weekend warriors. Chicas could freely walk around the strip without harassment.
In the beginning there were occasional police round ups. But it was damn near organized and most chicas tolerated it. At times it seem very comical. But then they got aggressive. The police got political and personnel back up to Increase the harassment. Next businesses were targeted. A lot of businesses were the safe zone for chicas. They were eventually closed. Bourbon street, City lights, Classico, Winner Circle, and a lot of other smaller clubs were all Targeted. And with the harassment of chicas business declined and Quality decreased.
In the past as long as the strip was still alive it didn't matter which major club was closed. Not everybody at night on the strip even plan on going inside the club. There was enough action outside for you to find what you want.
Because there was so many independent SW; Prices is stayed competitive. Yes some chicas still asked high asking prices, however they were easily replace by more cooperative chicas.
Many chicas traveled throughout the week to the Sue (especially on the weekend) to make extra dineros Unbeknownst to their family and friends. All they had to do was just go to the strip. They didn't have to cross their fingers or hold their breath. There was action 24/7.
Now the strip is on life support. It has affected everything from the local businesses to the beach.
The death of Sosua is greatly exaggerated. Again.
True what GM says, but the COVID shutdown hit every business around the world. No vaccines, no air travel means no tourists. No tourists means only a few desperate local HC chicas hanging around.
Now that the airlines are flying again, I can get back there, and they're telling me they are fully booked, and prices are up. With the toursts coming back, so will the chicas.
While the downtown strip is mostly dead, by political fiat, other places are opening up, and money is being spent opening up new, and renovating abandoned bars.
There's still the same number of beautiful chicas in DR, the P4 P business is legal, and the chicas are as hungry as ever.
I'd say let's see what happens between now and Superbowl to assess the situation, and see what the high season brings.
Tempoecorto
11-02-21, 16:18
Just more SDS from the usual Sosua haters. They need to stroke their own obviously bruised egos, by insulting other people and their personal choices, as being either too dumb to know any better, or worse to actually enjoy getting ripped off.I have to say, I find this continuous berating, rather incomprehensible. There are a lot of military guys on this board and thanks to their jobs they have traveled and then there are others, who make their first trip, outside of their barrios, to a different country altogether. There is no reason to expect that both groups would comport themselves the same way, given their different life trajectories.
Not that it means anything in terms of statistics but my own experiences in the DR has been very positive. The DR's proximity being the primary reason as Mr. E has correctly inferred. And personally, I find Mr. E's comments worth reading which are frequently tinged with a subtle pinch of humor that I find amusing as well but I am keenly aware that while I can get the horse to the water, I cannot make it drink. I would not even try! Indeed I am thankful that not all are hooked on steaks. Some like hamburgers as well and that broadens my horizon too. Live and let live!
Damn I missed out on mining Montellano. Crazy thing is I literally at one point was driving from Las Canas where I had a villa by the beach which is like 15 minutes away from the heart of Cabarette to Montellano damn near every other day for a week. One reason being was at the time I was dealing with an older hunny dip I call the Dominican Big Booty Judy that knew of a clinic that does std testing on a Sunday which was rare because most places are close on Sunday. So we drive all the way up there on a Sunday. Actually had to go to the doctors house to pick her up first and then took her to her office to get tested. Had to pay a little extra since they were technically closed (3000 pesos) but got my results back in 3 hrs. They also did my girl from the states covid testing as well a week later. But it never occurred to me to check out more of Montellano. Went pass the big soccer field where the locals play, saw how cheap the cost of living was there as I saw for rent signs but didn't investigate more. Shouldve ask where's the local bar at and the times I went I didn't see alot of hunnies walking around that caught my eye. When I went to La Union a few times though I was noticing alot of hunnies but that's for another story. Definitely will take sometime and explore those areas more.
My only issue will now become making time for gold mining new pussy in montenallno. As you know youll find good quality pussy that will share her friends and / or join in the festivities with you. Then her friends share her friends etc so a man can get lazy down there.
But theres something to be said about mining for a young tight body stallion with very few mileage on her that can be had for less then 2 number fives and a Mcflurry at McDonald's. So yeah Ima take your advice, continue to get my spanish up, get a shovel and get to digging in Montellano.La Union is a rather close-knit community of government housing apartment blocks where the population is mostly Dominicans. Montellano is an old sugar refinery town where there is a large population of Haitians. A lot of the housing in Montellano is extremely substandard and overcrowded and at the present time the situation of many Haitians in the Dominican Republic is very precarious, so a lot of people are desperate for 1) money, and 2) to remain in the DR and not get kicked out.
While a lot of the men find employment in construction or agriculture, the Haitian women are mostly without formal employment, so it is common for them to look to male tourists for revenue. streams.
This article gives you some idea of how Haitians are living in Montellano. https://www.diariolibre.com/actualidad/a-barrio-for-undocumented-haitians-is-built-in-montellano-DEDL955251.
You may have to set your browser to translate to English to read this article. On my computer it automatically came up in English in Firefox. Anyway it says there are 250 of these cinderblock Haitian homes in Montellano with several adults and children living in each, most people who live there are undocumented, very few children go beyond middle school, even access to basic utilities like water and electricity is not guaranteed, and that living conditions are very poor.
Ooh and here's a snap shot of my Dominican Big Booty Judy. Ass so phat that ass should be worship by indegenous people. Thicker then racial tension here in the states jajajajajaja.That's not a sandwich appetite. That's a man-wich Appetite.
Fact of the matter folks is that mongering in the DR is and will continue to be better than in the US. US folks who only know and can only afford the DR will continue to go to the DR and I applaud them. Those who know other mongering destinations will go there.
Fact of the matter folks is that mongering in the DR is and will continue to be better than in the US. US folks who only know and can only afford the DR will continue to go to the DR and I applaud them. Those who know other mongering destinations will go there.Exactly. To each his own. I'm a fan of Dominican chicas.
It would be stupid indeed for me to spend money and fly around the World to PI or Bangkok to get laid by some ass I have no desire for.
But it still amazes me that some folks either can't, or constantly refuse to see the logic in that.
But it takes all kinds.
LOL.
Ooh and here's a snap shot of my Dominican Big Booty Judy. Ass so phat that ass should be worship by indegenous people. Thicker then racial tension here in the states jajajajajaja.I took a walk thru Kings a few days ago, and your Big Booty Judy, well she's what I would call a "spinner" compared to what I saw in terms of booty in Kings.
I can't even imagine how some guys, even the guys with very long dicks would even be able to penetrate some of those beasts from behind.
I took a walk thru Kings a few days ago, and your Big Booty Judy, well she's what I would call a "spinner" compared to what I saw in terms of booty in Kings.
I can't even imagine how some guys, even the guys with very long dicks would even be able to penetrate some of those beasts from behind.Crazy, right? I call those chicks "cartoon girls", meaning their ass isn't real. You can find some walking around outside Bailey's too. I only like natural, not into butt injections or ass implants, although some guys like it. Either that, or they can't tell the difference (which is a shame).
By the way, great pic, Coolie High. That girl is the real deal. I was with a couple similiar to her build, and gave them both a big surprise. No pills needed with asses like those, ha! Some beautiful naturals out on the strip.
Coolie High
11-04-21, 08:59
La Union is a rather close-knit community of government housing apartment blocks where the population is mostly Dominicans. Montellano is an old sugar refinery town where there is a large population of Haitians. A lot of the housing in Montellano is extremely substandard and overcrowded and at the present time the situation of many Haitians in the Dominican Republic is very precarious, so a lot of people are desperate for 1) money, and 2) to remain in the DR and not get kicked out.
While a lot of the men find employment in construction or agriculture, the Haitian women are mostly without formal employment, so it is common for them to look to male tourists for revenue. streams.
This article gives you some idea of how Haitians are living in Montellano. https://www.diariolibre.com/actualidad/a-barrio-for-undocumented-haitians-is-built-in-montellano-DEDL955251.
Fran, it's good to see you still coming back giving us some knowledge from time to time. I read the article and it was very interesting. Again will definitely look into Montellano in the future to search for my young 21-30 yr old hunny dips.
Coolie High
11-04-21, 09:06
That's not a sandwich appetite. That's a man-wich Appetite.Ooh no doubt!! Thats why we stay knocking out those pushups while we were down there because you got to be a mans man to handle that phat ass. No question that bubble butt will bounce you back LOL. One of the craziest moments that we never told was the time of when I was out by my balcony on all fours on the floor crushing that bubble butt ass. I'm trying to be like the Whispers and "Rock Steady" but not only is that bubble butt bouncing me back but she also has pussy control. I can feel her pussy tighting around Ol Mighty Joe with each stroke trying to get me to tap out faster then a ufc fighter being choke out in a sleeper hold. The only move I got left is the old school ground and pound game while you're mean mugging the pussy. You know when you're hittin her with her every stroke you got. Short stroke, long stroke, balls deep stroke, it doesn't matter just whatever you do, you hold onto that waist and keep stroking for dear life LOL.
Meanwhile Big booty Judy was multitasking and while on fours as well was on her phone trying to find a girl for you. Soon as she found it, I yelled at your room to see if you were there. Since our outdoor balcony was attached you just casually came out your room, came to my part of the balcony and she casually hands you her phone to show you her girlfriend. Meanwhile I'm still in ground and pound mode, sweating like a hooker in church trying not to tap out from that bubble butt bouncing my equilibrium off base LOL. Now that was a crazy surreal moment. Almost as crazy as how we had 7 females taking tequila shots doing pushups and situps 1 am in the morning. If I didn't have the video I wouldn't believe it myself LOL.
P.S. Your boy held strong after you left but the real MVP was my knees. Seriously fucking on tile floors on that balcony doggystyle was no joke.
I took a walk thru Kings a few days ago, and your Big Booty Judy, well she's what I would call a "spinner" compared to what I saw in terms of booty in Kings.
I can't even imagine how some guys, even the guys with very long dicks would even be able to penetrate some of those beasts from behind.You know funny thing about phat asses is that they don't all have to be thicker then a snicker. I had a cute haitian that was 5'7 no more then 125 pds max and had a bubble butt ass that you could bounce a quarter off. I slept on that ass like a pillow curled up in a ball sucking my thumb happier then a motherf% after I crush that bubble butt LOL.
Crazy, right? I call those chicks "cartoon girls", meaning their ass isn't real. You can find some walking around outside Bailey's too. I only like natural, not into butt injections or ass implants, although some guys like it. Either that, or they can't tell the difference (which is a shame).
By the way, great pic, Coolie High. That girl is the real deal. I was with a couple similiar to her build, and gave them both a big surprise. No pills needed with asses like those, ha! Some beautiful naturals out on the strip.Thanks bro. We always talk about being on the hunt of young hunnys but big booty judy is actually in her mid 40's and caused no problems. Gogo and others spoke about this for years but theres also a HUGE gold mine full of 35-50 yr olds that still looks REALLY good, will fuck the dog shit out of you and then will cook and rub your back afterwards. You won't find them on the strip though but if you know a guy theyll start recommending there neighbors to you and boom you're deep in that bubble with her also offering everything on the menu including greek.
Exactly. To each his own. I'm a fan of Dominican chicas.
It would be stupid indeed for me to spend money and fly around the World to PI or Bangkok to get laid by some ass I have no desire for.
But it still amazes me that some folks either can't, or constantly refuse to see the logic in that.
But it takes all kinds..The difference is the flight. It only takes a little longer and costs a little more.
In Kenya, for example, you can get a Dreamgirl for $ 25. All night. Fuck as much as you want. And another BJ in the morning if you want. And she will love you.
Eating and drinking is much cheaper than in the DR.
The flight costs more, ok, but overall you pay less and have a lot more fun.
But I'm happy if you Americans stay in the DR and don't destroy the other destinations as well (sorry).
The difference is the flight. It only takes a little longer and costs a little more.
In Kenya, for example, you can get a Dreamgirl for $ 25. All night. Fuck as much as you want. And another BJ in the morning if you want. And she will love you.
Eating and drinking is much cheaper than in the DR.
The flight costs more, ok, but overall you pay less and have a lot more fun.
But I'm happy if you Americans stay in the DR and don't destroy the other destinations as well (sorry).LOL.
I have 2 passports, neither of which is American, so I'll leave your comment with them if they care to respond.
So how be you stay in Kenya, and I'll stay in Sosua, and we'll both have more fun, OK?
The difference is the flight. It only takes a little longer and costs a little more.
In Kenya, for example, you can get a Dreamgirl for $ 25. All night. Fuck as much as you want. And another BJ in the morning if you want. And she will love you.
Eating and drinking is much cheaper than in the DR.
The flight costs more, ok, but overall you pay less and have a lot more fun.
But I'm happy if you Americans stay in the DR and don't destroy the other destinations as well (sorry).I hope you're not talking about Sabina Joy. True, they're cheap, but those girls are skanks. Westland girls cost more than $25. But, if you use Badoo, you can pull regulars for free. Ask me how I know. Compared to the DR, meals are a little cheaper, but depends on where you go. When it comes to flights, Nairobi will eat up two days of travel if you're coming from NA, and it's quite a bit more expensive compared to DR flights.
True, the girls there will love you (if you have light skin), and it's very easy to pull regulars. However, to offset the cost and extra time, you'd have to plan on staying for two to three weeks. Comparatively, the booties are pretty even. So, if a guy only has a week, and is coming from NA, Sosua wins hands down.
I So, if a guy only has a week, and is coming from NA, Sosua wins hands down.Understand. I am happy to be from Europe. LOL.
Had a great time last weekend. Surprisingly I ran into more guys I knew then girls I knew. Bailles was the hub for early action. From 1 pm to 10 pm qbout 30 girls constantly churning. The quality in Bailees was very good. Kings the old Rumbas still pulls a few girls maybe 10 to 20 during the evening. The main spot for action at night is the Casino. There are at least 100 girls or more on the weekend. The quality on weekend is very good. Due to the number of girls you can not help seeing something to catch your interest. I like finding newbies to break in. Often they are a bit nervous but if you can get them relaxed the results can be good. Because I was only in town for 4 days I was very active about 8 girls with one 3 some. I ran into one of my 1st DR Cupid girls from 10 years ago. She is close to 40 now but body was still nice. She is no longer working in the game being 40 but was happy to see me. I invited her over for a session. It was the best sex I have had in a while. She was amazing. The sounds and responses I got from her were chilling. Picked a young newbie 20 who was a bit chubby and cute. For variety I do different types she was young and fresh to Sosua. Possibly I was her 1st in Sosua because she was not a stunner and only been there a week with friends. At first she was nervous and stiff but after a solid massage her pussy got wet and she let me have her leche. We hooked again for another good session. I had hooked with slim dark girl 2 months ago who was new to the streets very green. I saw her this trip and she was transformed to a season pro. She approached me and reminded me that I made her come with a sex toy. When I met her she was a nervous newbie. She was now a vet with game.
My trip did not start out on a high note. I flew into Santiago at 230 am. I was suppose to hookup with a hot 19 year old I had met in Sosua. She was suppose to meet me in airport and with taxi to take us to a Cabana. I confirmed with her several times because I had solid uber guy who wanted the fare. She did not show and would not answer my calls. Fortunately my Uber guy was up and was at airport in 10 minutes. I went to a Cabana and got 4 hours sleep which I needed. I was so tired from traveling I do not think I would have enjoyed the young hotty. She called 2 days later with the excuse her phone was not working. She wanted come to Sosua to see me but I passed.
At my age banging 2 or 3 girls a day requires rest. So I went to Caberetti most mornings to lounge on the beach. I highly recommend it. 2 hours on the beach lounging helps charge the old boy. While riding around Sosua I noticed for the first time some beautiful homes all over Sosua and 1st class condos. The quiet humble town is attracting some serious cash.
Lastly the girls all asked 100 US upfront but all accepted 3000 pesos.
Anybody knows if Ahnvee is running again? Last time I stayed there there wasn't anything going on there at all.
Had a great time last weekend. Surprisingly I ran into more guys I knew then girls I knew. Bailles was the hub for early action. From 1 pm to 10 pm qbout 30 girls constantly churning. The quality in Bailees was very good. Kings the old Rumbas still pulls a few girls maybe 10 to 20 during the evening. The main spot for action at night is the Casino. There are at least 100 girls or more on the weekend. The quality on weekend is very good. Due to the number of girls you can not help seeing something to catch your interest. I like finding newbys to break in. Often they are a bit nervous but if you can get them relaxed the results can be good. Becauase I was only in town for 4 days I was very active about 8 girls with one 3 some. I ran into one of my 1st DR Cupid girls from 10 years ago. She is close to 40 now but body was still nice. She is no longer working in the game being 40 but was happy to see me. I invited her over for a session. It was the best sex I have had in a while. She was amazing. The sounds and responces I got from her were chilling. Picked a young newby 20 who was a bit chubby and cute. For variety I do different types she was young and fresh to Sosua. Posibly I was her 1st in Sosua because she was not a stunner and only been there a week with friends. At first she was nervous and stiff but after a solid masage her pussy got wet and she let me have her leche. We hooked again for another good session. I had hooked with slim dark girl 2 months ago who was new to the streets very green. I saw her this trip and she was transformed to a season pro. She approsched me and reminded me that I made her come with a sex toy. When I met her she was a nervous newby. She was now a vet with game..Thanks for the update OldKool. I'm new to international but very active in the US hobby. Been on the fence of whether to go to BB or DR nights. DR nights just seems dumb pricey from what I'm reading in the threads. Ideally, I want to get a high end Airbnb and just shuttle the ladies in, but going to the DR in mid December for the first time, so don't think I'm graduated to that level. Just a little nervous, know little Spanish, but need to pull the band-aid, and this post helps along with the others.
Ipanema Carioca
11-12-21, 09:45
I am a long-time Sosua visitor, since 2009. My first trip since 2018. Before covid I visited this place 3-4 times a year. There are many girls on the street an on the beach. I noticed the same girls cycling from thee streets to the clubs to the beach, so you can't no long say that girls over one spot is different or better than another. What I don't like about Sosua is the pricing is now in dollars and the girls now tell you $100 for an hour. Most of the girls I see wear the same uniform of chica clothes, hair, and a few bleached blondes. In Bailees, where I stayed, it's the "hey baby" chica flirt, or them walking with an atitude on their faces. The tables at Baileees, the new Rumbas are full of either all chicas or all weekend warriors talking and segregated with little intermingling. In Rumbas it's the same. Unlike the old Rumba with dim lights, the new place is all lights on in the evening with every tv on for basketball or football. I noticed Wednesday night one dude sitting alone in what looked like a VIP section. I didn't got to the casino because I didn't want to go to way over there from centro to possibly see the same fat girls and average looking girls I've been seeing from day one.
Overall, the chica quality in Sosua were far below the standard what I'm use to. The chicas working at Bailees, Rumba, and other business looked far better than the chicas selling pussy. Moreover, the regular DR chicas not selling pussy but going about regular life looked better than the hoes. Plus I also saw more injected asses than I thought to be normal.
I did see girls who made me start to negotiate but starting at 5000 pesos? I would get them down to 3500 but they only wanted to spend one hour. I'm a good looking 5'11' athletic built black guy, who tries to set myself off from the average weekend warrior type. But apparently these guys have fucked up the game with paying in high prices and over paying, short timing at an hour, and allowing the girls to request "one hundred" as their starting price. I felt like Tijuana's Hong Kong Bar for one hour without a room. At least there you can get more than an hour if you have your own room. But these new average 6 looking Sosua chicas do not deserve what they're asking.
I did my negotiating by phone to be clear and precise to what we are to and keep a record to prevent bait and switch that some guys have experienced. One chica said she got 15 thousand for two hours. In my 7 nights so far I've turned down quite a few chicas because the woul not budge with the price or time.
My good news-I found two young chicas, one Dominican and one Haitian who accepted 3500 pesos and I repeated both. I spent 2-3 hours with both. They weren't rushing to get the next client. I called them late so they had no other place to go or a client list to go through. The Haitian is a solo chica but the Dominicana has a wing-girl, both staying at City Lights and are wanted a new session for happy hour, but I don't try two girls at once as a security risk. You can't keep your eyes on both if they're up to no good. Plus I figure they need to pay that rent and wanted to maximize the cash. The Dominican said I was her first Sosua client, and she's 19 years-old.
I know the cost of living in the Dominican Repubic is high compared to 2018. So I do not really mind the price increase. But the one hour rate is not a good deal. I hear leche popi in that hour time demand.
When I arrived Thursday, Nov. 4, some of that Halloween party crowd was still in town. Those Sosua youtubers I blame for blowing up Sosua for their self promoting benefit to survive as expats. I even saw one guy on my Jetbluee flight wearing his high school letterman jacket, talking about what he saw on youtube. Them self promoters are calling newbies down and not educating them about the dos and don'ts of the pay 4 play game. The young newbies are looking for numbers and not quality. But more oldtimers are not biting what the girls are selling.
I heard many longtime mongers talking about Pattaya. They are waiting for Pattaya to open up for the quality price and service that Sosua doesn't offer. The old school mongers are like me, vetting the chicas for that rare sweetness who is happy to get pesos rather than the self-overrated chica roaming from place to place trying to find that $100 US / hour sucker whose many will run out after 5 hours of sessioning and my not return to Sosua.
Regardless from where one travels, after paying for a flight and hotel plus food and drinks, is Sosua worth traveling so far for $100/ hour? For less money a horny guy can bang a working girl at his local strip club with the same chica attitude.
But I'll be going to Colombia for the $3,880 per $1 US dollar. It's a better deal than Sosua. However, I do love the Dominican culture and met girls in Puerto Plata. So my next trip back to DR will be in Puerto Plata. And why go to Santo Domingo to deal with chicas when they are in Sosua charging ridiculous prices?
Good honest reporting. Smart move stepping down in quality to get your price and a nut LOL. You also enjoyed your time with giving massages and vibrator play. I usually reserve that for my regulars and not girls walking the street, but to each his own. You always complaining about your age but you seem to do well to me.
It also shows how to make good on a bad situation. I'm stuck up and conceited LOL, so I'm very selective. I'm comfortable walking away from a deal if I get a bad vibe or a high opening price, but then again I live for the old times when girls in Sosua were different. Thanks for reporting.
I will fill in the rest of the story in another post.
I'm not much into the street walker or beach walker scene here. Fun to watch but those girls have some serious mileage on them.
Here's my recipe. Tinder is a good tool. You pay extra to get a local RD access. Once you have it, you'll fine 100's of nice chicas there. I sort for those under 30 and under 130 lbs. I'm not into the big ass look, preferably young, thin, and not a putas.
You will get a ton of hits. Respond and start a conversation. What I do is to try to find a chica to meet, then ask if she has friends. I offer her a referral fee. Wow, this is like having your own service, supplying you what you're looking for 24/7.
After a try or two, you will figure out which are good at sourcing what you want, and those that are scammers. Initially, I look for girls from Puerto Plata as this filters the putas out quickly. Find 1 or 2 and you've built a pipeline for your stay.
Yes, there are scammers out there, and a bunch of dead fish. But the keepers outnumber the losers 4:1. The worst scammers this trip. One girl wanted to bring her friend, then she doesn't want to do a threesome. Throwing her friend at me. I get an apartment with several rooms so I can sleep in one room and entertain in another. Put all your stuff in safe places. This bad group was aiming to collect my things while I was with the other.
The other scam I ran into. I'm on my period. Well, what the hell, why didn't you say that earlier. I just pack them up and show them to the door. I stay at girl friendly resorts that have serious security. So they can't sneak out with your stuff while you're busy.
Pros vs regular girls looking to make a few extra bucks. I prefer the regular girls, finding the experience much less business like. This trip, I had a couple of very nice 19 year olds. Typically they are young moms who don't mind a few extra bucks.
After your find your sourcing agent, you can guide her to what you want with good result. RD is cheap compared to home, the quality of young ones is very good. One sourcing agent sits in the living room watching tv while I'm with her recruit.
I will fill in the rest of the story in another post.I will say you have done pretty good. I suspect you are a youngish guy.
I will fill in the rest of the story in another post.These look like their profile pictures. Did you have sex with any of them. If you did where are the intimate pictures?
If you did how much did you pay them?
LuvMexicanas
11-14-21, 17:02
These look like their profile pictures. Did you have sex with any of them. If you did where are the intimate pictures?
If you did how much did you pay them?I am with you man. Profile pictures don't mean much so I sense your skepticism. If he had sex with them, you would expect some in the room photos he took himself like these.
These look like their profile pictures. Did you have sex with any of them. If you did where are the intimate pictures?
If you did how much did you pay them?I had 11 over the extended weekend. I dint know the source of photos, that's what I got from the agents used. They do look like profile shots.
I'm in my 50's. One advantage of this route is reduced haggle factor. I would offer $60-100 to my agent and that's the price paid. Plus her agency fee.
In this business, sometimes you get what you pay for. Since these aren't professional girls for the most part, the dead fish likelihood goes up. I do find the single mothers rather horny though. They don't get much attention apparently.
Ipanema Carioca
11-15-21, 01:55
I will fill in the rest of the story in another post.If you took photos yourself, I would not share them here. Some guys may know the girl and some give girls access to ISG. When you take photos of girls you session with, keep them to yourself. The girls in pay 4 play trust you will not share photos online. And, it would not be a good situation for you. Sosua is a small town; DR is a small country; Don't show photos and get yourself in a bind with a girl's family or friends to entertain or prove something to people you do not know on ISG. Even the police in different countries monitor this forum. The photos you posted are suffice.
I'm not much into the street walker or beach walker scene here. Fun to watch but those girls have some serious mileage on them.
Good report. You are moving like many of us other veterans. I called the SWs Fancy looking penny slot machines. The Sue is a northern base for me to pull my regulars and chicas from PP. PP Itself is too big of a small city to walk around and maneuver. The once you get the hang of the dating apps; the Sue becomes an excellent location to transport chicas in and out.
Another thing I love about the DR is The ability to network. You can use chicas to refer their friends. Trip and I love Cali Colombia chicas. Unlike the DR; they are not good at referring other Chicas.
Just remember the DR chicas Love passive men, but they respect masculinity. You have to set the Masculine I am in-charge tone before they get there, otherwise you can get the bullshit. (ie. Period on, set up robbery, bait and switch).
I had a newbie last week tell me how beautiful the chicas were at Bailey's. I listened and let him express his love of selecting chicas from there for 15 minutes. At the end I told him that's good he enjoyed himself but those girls are a little too generic for me. He didn't quite understand.
Like you I understand there are other ways of getting chicas then pulling from the High mileage, over priced, SW's. He said the average price he paid was 4500 pesos for a short time.
I guess you can call me a tailgate monger. Meaning I love the atmosphere of the game, but I'm more concerned about the outside action than the game being played on the inside.
I'm in my 50's. One advantage of this route is reduced haggle factor. I would offer $60-100 to my agent and that's the price paid. Plus her agency fee.
.I thought in your post you said Tinder was your tool? When questioned you now say an agency? How can you think that they were not professional chicas?
I thought in your post you said Tinder was your tool? When questioned you now say an agency? How can you think that they were not professional chicas?Yes. I used tinder to find girls. From there I asked them if they had friends they could send over. This creates your own referral system.
The attached is the better referral girl I used for most of the photos posted previously.
If you ask. I can send her contact info.
Good report. You are moving like many of us other veterans. I called the SWs Fancy looking penny slot machines. The Sue is a northern base for me to pull my regulars and chicas from PP. PP Itself is too big of a small city to walk around and maneuver. The once you get the hang of the dating apps; the Sue becomes an excellent location to transport chicas in and out.
Another thing I love about the DR is The ability to network. You can use chicas to refer their friends. Trip and I love Cali Colombia chicas. Unlike the DR; they are not good at referring other Chicas.
Just remember the DR chicas Love passive men, but they respect masculinity. You have to set the Masculine I am in-charge tone before they get there, otherwise you can get the bullshit. (ie. Period on, set up robbery, bait and switch).
I had a newbie last week tell me how beautiful the chicas were at Bailey's. I listened and let him express his love of selecting chicas from there for 15 minutes. At the end I told him that's good he enjoyed himself but those girls are a little too generic for me. He didn't quite understand.
Like you I understand there are other ways of getting chicas then pulling from the High mileage, over priced, SW's. He said the average price he paid was 4500 pesos for a short time..Glad there's a grown man online that can think one step past his cock to get what he wants. I had the same Sosua experience you mention and wanted to share. I guess I'm a tailgate monger too.
It was good to be back in Sosua last week. Spent way to much time catching up with friends and drinking to do much mongering but I have not seen the strip that busy since about 2017 - there was a lot of talent around but I only boinked an old regular a few times -which was awesome. What can I say. I can drink all night and I can fuck all night. They just can't be the same night. Ok all night might be a stretch also- going back for most of the winter and I will not waste that much opportunity again.
It was good to be back in Sosua last week. Spent way to much time catching up with friends and drinking to do much mongering but I have not seen the strip that busy since about 2017 - there was a lot of talent around but I only boinked an old regular a few times -which was awesome. What can I say. I can drink all night and I can fuck all night. They just can't be the same night. Ok all night might be a stretch also- going back for most of the winter and I will not waste that much opportunity again.I hear ya!
Just got back after 2 months.
3 days and still catching up with friends. Always the same and always new.
Mucho love for Sosua!
Triple Darknes
11-21-21, 06:07
Yes. I used tinder to find girls. From there I asked them if they had friends they could send over. This creates your own referral system.
The attached is the better referral girl I used for most of the photos posted previously.
If you ask. I can send her contact info.I foot stomp on this, because I'm an extreme GFE fan so the main way I protect myself is to have chicas bring me chicas with a propina. If the Propina is over a certain amount I'll have a threesome or two one on ones if new chica is a virgin to selling pussy. The referring chica won't send a dirty chica if she knows that I might fuck her right after her friend and if the chica is brand new she gets a respectful patient client to start her hoeing career with.
I had an offer to have a "bed and breakfast experience" with a chica who lives in Sosua with my Santo Domingo regular meaning I come up and instead of staying in a hotel I'd get breakfast and dinner cooked and threesomes each night unless the Santo Domingo regular caught a Todo la Noche date. He only requests that she wanted to use a condom with head in the threesome. At this point any covered blow jobs is a one and done with me, she didn't want to embrass herself with her friend.
I said if I stay with you by the third day I'd probably CIP with both of you.
I decided to keep faith with my referral chick instead of blowing up her spot. Referral hoes are worth their weight in gold and the main reason why the DR will maintain it's 7 million tourist arrival rate.
Hope this Helps.
Trip.
Durandpaul
11-21-21, 07:36
Did a quick trip to Sosua. I got there Wednesday and just got to Miami this evening. Writing the review from the airport. This time I wanted to try something different and decided to book two rooms. One in puerto plata and one in sosua with a rental car. I stayed at sea breeze which was about $50. Then got an Airbnb in puerto plata for about $100.
There were at lot more girls compared to two months ago when I was there. Maybe because we are close to Thanksgiving.
I was in sosua pretty much every day before 7 pm. Enough time to go to Bailes and the beach. The asking price was 80 for all the girls. I had 7 girls total in sosua. Paid 5 girls 3,000. And 2 girls 2500. These girls are definitely working as a union to keep prices in dollars.
I puerto plata I used tinder which worked pretty good. In total I met 3 girls in Puerto plata even though I got like 15 numbers.
Girl 1 was a quick short time for 2000 with BBBJ and good performance around 7 pm on Wednesday. I got her to come back at 2 am for 2000 all night two leche around 1 am after girl 2 left me with a boner.
I met with girl 2 around 9 pm at a bar in puerto plata. We had drinks and a pizza then we went to my airbnb. Once in the room she didn't want to fuck and all I got was BBBJ, she was good but she was like I don't like to fuck on the same night. So around 1 am I was chatting with girl 1 and she agreed to come. So I got girl 2 to leave even though she was disappointed. I got an taxi for her but as she was leaving in the taxi she must have seen girl 1. I started to get texts from her saying blah blah that I must like prostitutes who are easy. Girl 1 actually performs very well. I got my two leche. She leaves at 10 am and I head to sosua. While in sosua girl 2 starts to text, and her tone changes and she starts to ask what I did with the other girl. I am like we fuck all night. She asked how much I paid her so I tell her 1500, she said that's too little for her. I ask her how much she wants, she says she just need some money for her sister sweet 16. Now I didn't understand well the whole thing but I don't know why she got to spend a lot of money for her sister birthday. She sent me a picture of a dress. Definitely not her size. She is thick with a small waiste and big ass but the dress is definitely for a small girl. She says its 6000. So I tell her I don't have 6000 right now. I said maybe 2000 then she said ok. At that point I am like I m like this may be a scam. She tells me she is coming to get it at my Airbnb, I tell her I am Sosua. Then she starts talking about prostitutes again. Well I decide to head back around 8. 30 pm. This time she comes with a car and her sister who is 16 is the car. So she comes upstairs alone. I just took a shower. I was planning to fuck her but she says she will come back later. The car is not hers. I give her the 2000 . Before she leaves I get her to suck my dick. Maybe 5 min then says she has to leave. Well there she goes again. Lucky me girl 3 was already scheduled. Girl 3 shows up around 10.30 pm. Well to my surprise she is fine, tall and thick. We agreed to 2000 short time, but she wants 3500 because she can't go back to her house late at night. So I am like if you are good you can stay all night. She performs well. Around 12:00 am Girl 2 just shows up LOL.
She rings the bell so many times that girl 3 thinks she is my girlfriend and get dressed. Girl 3 speaks almost no enligh so when I let girl 2 in she doesn't know what going on. Long story short Girl 2 is ok to stay and have drinks with Girl 3 but Girl 3 thinks she is a long time friend. So I am like fuck it they can both stay or leave. I put some music, after 30 min we are both dancing, I trick them into taking shots while I am pretty much taking water shots. After they get tipsy Girl 2 is sucking my dick, Girl 3 joins. And from there it becomes a fuck fest. We go through 10 condoms. The girl didn't lick each others but it was a good ass night. In the morning while we are sleeping I get hard, fuck girl 3 again before she leaves. Girl 2 is already sleeping with my tshirt on so she ain't thinking about going anywhere. Sometimes around 11 am girl 3 leaves. I take a shower hoping to give Girl 2 a clue that its time to go. She gets ready too at 12 I get hard again while she is fully dressed. I bend her over and fuck her really hard for like 30 min straight without changing positions. She then run in the bathroom because she started to squirt LOL. I grab her by force bend her over again and fuck her hard again this time she squirts on the bed LOL. She calls me mafioso. She leaves at 2 pm and I put 4000 in her purse. I say bye and about 45 min later I am in Bailes. At this time I am all sore. I get two girls from Bailes before heading back to Puerto Plata. Girls 3 says she wants to hang out with us again. I guess she really thinks girl 2 is my dominican GF. I tell Girl 3 that Girl 2 wants her pussy licked. She says ok. That was me asking anyway. Girl 3 proposes we meet at a bar. We all meet there around 10 pm. We drink and get drunk. At this point I am just going with the flow. Both girls have proven themselves and I m just looking forward for another threesome. More drinks, girl 2 is again acting like the main girl. Talking to me in enligsh. I can't hear half the things she says. She is drinking and telling me the story of her life while Girl 3 is just mostly dancing. After about 2 hrs we go back to the airbnb. At this point I am definitely drunk while the girls are on the balcony I decide to make sure all my stuff are locked. We pretty much fuck, dance, rest, fuck again on and off for most the night. In the morning Girl 3 again leaves earlier I gave her 2500. She didn't even count and gave both of us a kiss on the mouth. Girl 2 says she has to go. All I heard was something about her bambino. We fuck again before she leaves. I can't cum though. Well don't want to get her late. So I put 2000 in her purse. Both girls were really fun. Girl 3 is definitely a semi pro and but not sure about girl 2. She is definitely not good at bargaining. I spent more than usual on them but the value came in the performance and girl friend experience, mixed with pornstar experience. After I checked out of my Airbnb, I returned the rental and got checked in at the airport. After I was done I went back to sosua breeze, they allowed me a 3 hours extension. Went to Bailes. Greedy me took two girls again. Not at the same time. I am still suprise I was able to leche with both. As usually you can always count on american airlines to be delayed. I was pretty much the last one to board.
This strip was different for me, did all my things in sosua during the day and at night tinder did it for me. Girl 2 and Girl 3 made it fun. I didn't like the back and forth between Sosua and Puerto Plata. But I liked being able to go to sosua, and have two girls for guaranteed fun at night.
Durandpaul
11-21-21, 08:06
Like you I understand there are other ways of getting chicas then pulling from the High mileage, over priced, SW's. He said the average price he paid was 4500 pesos for a short time.
.That means he isn't negotiating the price. All the girls are asking 80 now as the ask price but 95% will take 3000 for short time during the day. Plus all these girls in sosua are all on tinder.
RamDavidson84
11-21-21, 20:16
Did a quick trip to Sosua. I got there Wednesday and just got to Miami this evening. Writing the review from the airport. This time I wanted to try something different and decided to book two rooms. One in puerto plata and one in sosua with a rental car. I stayed at sea breeze which was about $50. Then got an Airbnb in puerto plata for about $100.
There were at lot more girls compared to two months ago when I was there. Maybe because we are close to Thanksgiving.
I was in sosua pretty much every day before 7 pm. Enough time to go to Bailes and the beach. The asking price was 80 for all the girls. I had 7 girls total in sosua. Paid 5 girls 3,000. And 2 girls 2500. These girls are definitely working as a union to keep prices in dollars.
I puerto plata I used tinder which worked pretty good. In total I met 3 girls in Puerto plata even though I got like 15 numbers.
Girl 1 was a quick short time for 2000 with BBBJ and good performance around 7 pm on Wednesday. I got her to come back at 2 am for 2000 all night two leche around 1 am after girl 2 left me with a boner.
I met with girl 2 around 9 pm at a bar in puerto plata. We had drinks and a pizza then we went to my airbnb. Once in the room she didn't want to fuck and all I got was BBBJ, she was good but she was like I don't like to fuck on the same night. So around 1 am I was chatting with girl 1 and she agreed to come. So I got girl 2 to leave even though she was disappointed. I got an taxi for her but as she was leaving in the taxi she must have seen girl 1. I started to get texts from her saying blah blah that I must like prostitutes who are easy. Girl 1 actually performs very well. I got my two leche. She leaves at 10 am and I head to sosua. While in sosua girl 2 starts to text, and her tone changes and she starts to ask what I did with the other girl. I am like we fuck all night. She asked how much I paid her so I tell her 1500, she said that's too little for her. I ask her how much she wants, she says she just need some money for her sister sweet 16. Now I didn't understand well the whole thing but I don't know why she got to spend a lot of money for her sister birthday. She sent me a picture of a dress. Definitely not her size. She is thick with a small waiste and big ass but the dress is definitely for a small girl. She says its 6000. So I tell her I don't have 6000 right now...Legend. Respect. I have a new goal.
SamSam2004
11-22-21, 05:20
I'm in Sosua at the moment for 10 days. I'm from France and it's my second time here. I was there in 2011. Maaaan everything has changed. The girls attitude is just awful. Basically you have the girls in Bailey that I don't even consider. In Europe you can get Russians, German, French, Spanish girls etc. For between 30 and 50 euros in the FKK, clubs, internet or whatever. And now I come in this third world country and they want more than the girls who live in the western countries. A guy from Brooklyn told me on my first day that they wanted 80 usd in Bailey and it was confirmed by other guys. Therefore I forgot about them. No way I'm going to pay that for P*why. The other girls are those who are working on la clisante and the ones (usually the same) who go the casino at night, and finally on tinder. On la Clisante between 2:00 pm and 7:00 I took 3 girls for 1500 on Short time. On tinder I sent the same message to all the girls I matched: 1000 for short time, 2000 for the whole night with 2 shots. If you live after the first time I pay you only 1000 and same thing if you live before 8:00 am. Some chicas sent smileys, some tried to bargain which I have automatically rejected, and some accepted. They weren't the pretty ones of course, but I only took these ones. I prefer to give my money to girls who comply with my demands and who really want to work with normal prices. If everybody does the same, the other ones will see that the only ones who work are those who accept realistic prices. I had 5 tinder girls, 2 short times at 1000 and 3 long times for 2000. In the casino I had 4 girls in long time for 2000 each but I had many rejections. And the funny thing is that all those who rejected me, ended up alone at the end of the night, and I made sure for them to see go to my house with a lady who accepted my conditions. So guys please stop giving big prices to these girls, they are really spoiled and they don't respect us anymore. And school the young guys who are simping big time with these chicas.
NeilGeorge
11-22-21, 22:33
So guys please stop giving big prices to these girls, they are really spoiled and they don't respect us anymore. And school the young guys who are simping big time with these chicas.Biggest problem is the travel hassle now, connecting flights in Miami with long international immigration lines, covid testing in Sosua. Unfriendly stewardesses on flights. On the flight back to Miami I asked the stewardess why we needed to wear masks on the plane into the US because we all tested negative to get onto the plane. She did not have a good answer, except that the flight crew had not been tested and could be carrying covid. Hope things lighten up some soon.
Durandpaul
11-22-21, 22:39
For between 30 and 50 euros in the FKK, clubs, internet or whatever. And now I come in this third world country and they want more than the girls who live in the western countries. A guy from Brooklyn told me on my first day that they wanted 80 usd in Bailey and it was confirmed by other guys. Therefore I forgot about them.ALL the girls at Bailes start by saying 80 but 90% will go for 3000 peso.
Very few girls will say no 3500 usd which is $60. Thats free market, the issue is that many guys over there are too stupid to understant that everything in life is negotiable and need to take a few minutes to think with their brain and not their dicks. Only girl that wanted $100 on my last trip was a tall chick named Liah. I had to pass.
Unfortunately in the US paying for pussy is illegal, and girls online are very impredictable, and many of them are just plain ugly and dirty.
Mr Enternational
11-23-21, 03:30
I prefer to give my money to girls who comply with my demands and who really want to work with normal prices. If everybody does the same, the other ones will see that the only ones who work are those who accept realistic prices.The problem with that is that it makes the assumption that the chick has to sell ass or she will die. The real truth is that many of those chicks only do it because they want x amount of pesos and do not mind not turning a trick if they can not get that amount. The game around there has turned into the monger needing the hooker. It is no longer the person that has the gold ruling or making the rules.
Biggest problem is the travel hassle now, connecting flights in Miami with long international immigration lines, covid testing in Sosua. Unfriendly stewardesses on flights. On the flight back to Miami I asked the stewardess why we needed to wear masks on the plane into the US because we all tested negative to get onto the plane. She did not have a good answer, except that the flight crew had not been tested and could be carrying covid. Hope things lighten up some soon.Don't expect things to lighten up anytime soon. It is not the airlines mandating these masks, vaccinations or the Covid tests to fly on a plane or enter the USA. You shouldn't expect a flight attendant to be able to explain or justify the policy. It is the US government that is issuing these mandates and the current trend is for more mandates as opposed to less. As long as the current admin is in place expect more of the same.
You fly 4000 miles and complain about paying 60 bucks for pussy. Some would say you are a cheap MFer. The girls are still not in control of much. 60 or 70 bucks for an attractive young lady is a deal for most Americans. Maybe French pussy is at bargain these and you should spend your money there but as for me I got no problem buying pussy in the DR.
You fly 4000 miles and complain about paying 60 bucks for pussy. Some would say you are a cheap MFer. The girls are still not in control of much. 60 or 70 bucks for an attractive young lady is a deal for most Americans. Maybe French pussy is at bargain these and you should spend your money there but as for me I got no problem buying pussy in the DR.I must disagree with this viewpoint. Airfare, lodging, food, cabs and pussy all add up to the grand sum of your trip total. There is no reason why a monger shouldn't be trying to minimize any of the above expenses, including pussy.
We go through 10 condoms. The girl didn't lick each others but it was a good ass night.
This strip was different for me, did all my things in sosua during the day and at night tinder did it for me. Girl 2 and Girl 3 made it fun. I didn't like the back and forth between Sosua and Puerto Plata. But I liked being able to go to sosua, and have two girls for guaranteed fun at night.You got a threesome with two strangers? That is a good trip! I make it a habit to bring baby wipes. When I'm in a situation like that I don't want to keep changing condoms. When a chica demands it I just thoroughly wipe the Johnson and they're usually cool with that.
That means he isn't negotiating the price. All the girls are asking 80 now as the ask price but 95% will take 3000 for short time during the day. Plus all these girls in sosua are all on tinder.Wow the Su has really been corrupted by these new Mongers. My homie Got in the habit of paying 4500 and stuck with it. Chicas are asking $80 and you negotiate down to 3000 pesos. Good job. For many of us that frequent a lot; the very idea of asking in American dollars is disrespectful. 3000 pesos for a High mileage SW in the Su is still a little over priced in my book. I understand some guys have limited time and resources so the chica's Union exploit that to their advantage.
You left a low mileage. Lower price area for a high mileage. Higher price area? That accessibility of chicas in the Su gets the best of many of us.
1000 for short time, 2000 for the whole night with 2 shots. If you live after the first time I pay you only 1000 and same thing if you live before 8:00 am. Damn I don't think I paid 1000 pesos for a short time since 2011. Just kidding. I'm glad that you stuck to your guns. It's hard for a chica that just got paid 4000 pesos for a short time from a gringo to except 1000 pesos from another.
At my job I average about $65 an hour five days a week. The company loves my work and would like to have me seven days a week. That same Company can offer me only $50 an hour on the weekends. When the weekend comes I tell them to find someone else besides me; so I understand the chicas in that regard.
However in the Su the prices have increased and quality decreased and that's my major gripe.
I saw the guy that works on the weekend and he looks like he's happy to be there. They are paying him $40 an hour. He thinks he's hit a lick.
That's how I see many of our brothers in the Su. They are happy and the chicas are eating well. I don't try to intervene. I understand no matter how much I dislike them; the hyenas have to eat.
Mr Enternational
11-24-21, 02:34
You fly 4000 miles and complain about paying 60 bucks for pussy. Some would say you are a cheap MFer. The girls are still not in control of much. 60 or 70 bucks for an attractive young lady is a deal for most Americans. Maybe French pussy is at bargain these and you should spend your money there but as for me I got no problem buying pussy in the DR.OK the problem is that you are neither in America nor France. In the DR pussy is not supposed to cost $60. That is half of what most people make all month. For comparison sake, the average monthly wage in the USA is $3000 per month. Would you pay half month's wage ($1500) for short time pussy in the USA as you are doing in DR?
SamSam2004
11-24-21, 04:55
OK the problem is that you are neither in America nor France. In the DR pussy is not supposed to cost $60. That is half of what most people make all month. For comparison sake, the average monthly wage in the USA is $3000 per month. Would you pay half month's wage ($1500) for short time pussy in the USA as you are doing in DR?Exactly! Thank you! In France the average salary is 2500 euros per month and girls cist between 40 and 100 euros for a short time. Reported to the Dominican republic the Short time should be around 900 to 1100 pesos. Sosua is clearly a rip off now. Paying 3000 pesos for a ST is definitely insane. And if people agree to pay 3000 they will ask for 4000 and more. The day you won't be able to pay anymore those who were agreeing will cry about the inflation. Wake up guys. Their price policy is almost like a consortium, they all ask for the same prices. We should do the same and organize. 1000 pesos for ST and 2000 for LT. And if they don't agree, bye bye. It's going to be hard at the beginning but slowly we will win. They are the one who need the money while we can change our destination if the don't lower their expectations.
Durandpaul
11-24-21, 06:09
OK the problem is that you are neither in America nor France. In the DR pussy is not supposed to cost $60. That is half of what most people make all month. For comparison sake, the average monthly wage in the USA is $3000 per month. Would you pay half month's wage ($1500) for short time pussy in the USA as you are doing in DR?Many strippers and escorts in the US make more than $100 k a year. More than what 90% of their customers make. I don't see that has different as in DR. The real problem in sosua is that those girls have got a little smarter and understand that they have to quote in dollars instead of pesos since the USD gained almost 25% over the dominican peso in 2 years. The days of paying $1500 and walking in bar knowing we can afford any girl are over frankly LOL. The other problem is some guys are too stupid to negotiate. About 2 years ago most girls will go for 2000 pesos short time, which is about $2500 in todays peso. Now most girls will take 3000 pesos short time. Which is only about a 500 pesos or $9 increase.
Sosua has been grigofied, and being close to guys from New York doesn't help. Sosua isn't what it used to be, and I fear things will continue to get worse as long as rumba, merrengue, and classico can't operate as in the past.
Sosua has been grigofied, and being close to guys from New York doesn't help. Sosua isn't what it used to be, and I fear things will continue to get worse as long as rumba, merrengue, and classico can't operate as in the past.I respect your point. However, As I said in the past the situation has nothing to do with the rumba, Classico, or any bar on the street. The inflated prices and low quality is because the average SW in the past did not have to worry about harassment from the police. It is the Constant harassment of the police that has caused the decline.
During the time when there is little or no harassment any chica can walk freely on the strip. Many of them did not plan on going inside the clubs. There was no need to go inside a restaurant or the club. Many of our brothers we're not into The hip-hop / Dominican club scene. The action was outside. Many of us missed the days of posting up on the block watching the parade of SW looking for customers. With the abundance of chicas; it made the pricing competitive for business. It was a buyers market.
In the clubs they were asking 3000 average. You walk outside and their were many available chicas willing to take less. Many Overlooked Haitians and other Dominicans we're outside more cooperative and easy for the picking. Short time or long time was easily negotiated at a more reasonable price. There was 5 times more action on the outside of the clubs than the inside. The block was booming with freelancers. I experienced the same thing in Cuba with their inside and outside club night time active areas.
Now a days many of those chicas do not want to risk going to jail. Chicas are now isolated to hang out in certain areas like Bailey or Ahnvee. Bailey has turned into a chica's over priced union hall. Bailey has a history of being prejudiced toward Haitians as well as many of the other clubs.
The streets of the Sue currently look vastly empty compared to the pass. Chicas now ride around on motor scooters or in cars soliciting customers. In the past there were so SW chicas Night and day one could just sit outside of their motel room Bar and pick up chicas without stepping a foot on the block. Lower quality chicas are now willing to risk being incarcerated. Their attitudes reflect there monopoly on the current condition.
In my opinion the higher prices has nothing to do with the dollar. It has more to do with the control of available chicas, their mentality, and our accessibility to them.
Mr Enternational
11-24-21, 14:04
The real problem in sosua is that those girls have got a little smarter and understand that they have to quote in dollars instead of pesos since the USD gained almost 25% over the dominican peso in 2 years.You think it is because the girls are smart? It is not. The girls are dumb as posts. It is only because most guys that go there have been too lazy over the past years and ask about paying in USD, so they figure to tell you in USD. Also, psychologically the number 100 (as in dollars) sounds a lot better than 5600 (as in pesos). Even they think it is ridiculous for someone to give them 5600 pesos for a little time when they know it takes 2 weeks for everybody that is working a normal job to see that amount. For them that is akin to money growing on trees. So the small 100 number sounds more reasonable although it is the same amount.
It is the exact thing with SW in Tijuana. Go up and ask them how much and they will say $20. Say no I only have pesos and they will say 200 pesos, which is less than $10. But most mongers that go there are too lazy to exchange money and want to pay in dollars, so they rip themselves off.
The best comparison or contrast is to look at a casa like GBP in Santo Domingo where the locals go. It costs 1500 pesos for 1 hour. The girl keeps half of that. So if you are paying an independent SW 4 times as much as the 750 pesos per hour that she would get in a casa, it is not because that is how much things cost, as more it is that you are getting ripped off. Even SW in Santo Domingo only charge 1000 pesos versus the 4500 pesos those chicks in Sosua are asking for. Hell, I fucked a chick in the massage room of a hair salon in Santo Domingo for 500 pesos. THAT is how much things actually cost in DR!
But fair exchange is no robbery. If a guy did not think it was fair then he would do the same as SamSam and not pay that shit. The problem with Sosua is that most guys think it is fair compared to back home and are not considering how fair it is compared to the local market. That rocket has already left the launchpad though.
E you are an expat so your perspective is different from us in and out guys. We pay what is a price that make since to us. How much the average salary in DR is not a factor to us. There are rich guys in US who do pay 1500 for upscale working girls. Elliot Spitzer is an example. Sosua is a rare place in the DR where sex tourist are welcomed and catered to. If the price is not good for you move on. However thousand of guys visit and enjoy Sosua. I am one of them 3000 or 3500 is a bargain for the ease and quality. The quality is not what it once was but it is still awesome. I will be in Sosua very soon again. I have contacted some of the reliable girls I have been with and will have a great time and will be looking for new prospects.
OK the problem is that you are neither in America nor France. In the DR pussy is not supposed to cost $60. That is half of what most people make all month. For comparison sake, the average monthly wage in the USA is $3000 per month. Would you pay half month's wage ($1500) for short time pussy in the USA as you are doing in DR?
Mr Enternational
11-24-21, 18:00
E you are an expat so your perspective is different from us in and out guys. We pay what is a price that make sence to us. How much the average salary in DR is not a factor to us.I am no expat. I am in and out as well. The longest I have ever spent in the DR is 9 days. The difference is that I go around and meet normal people that have normal jobs to understand what is going on.
I don't just go where sex tourism is tolerated and sex tourists are fleeced. I do not mind paying for pussy, but I am not going to be as happy as you are being gringo taxed for it. 3000 and 3500 is not a bargain in the Domimican Republic; it is a total sham!
I have this vision of a guy from sex prison coming to Sosua, and sees the girl of his dreams. Right on the next bar stool. No cab ride across town, no fake photograph on some dating site, no showing up with her mother and brothers. She'll go for $80 dollars.
His buddy tells him not to go for it cause he'll "spoil the market" for all the other mongers! He'll tell him about all the cheap pussy he had in 2009.
Does he pull the trigger and risk humiliation by the monger crowd, and disappointing his buddy, or does he get exactly what he came for, maybe a memorable fuck he'll remember for a lifetime?
Turns out his "price control police union" buddies are getting ripped off royally by the cheap hoes. According to all reports posted here!
500,1000, or 1500, is a rip off if you are not getting what you really want!
LOL.
TravelingMan3
11-24-21, 23:04
If I may time in and give my opinion on Sosua been coming since 2013 and now live here. As someone that remember when rumbas use to be back at 1500 and dlatin club the Sosua now and way different in quality back then even early hours you had 7's 8's chicas out so much so that vets use to tell me to wait and not be so thirsty because I wouldn't be able to take a real dime at night and I blow my load so early. The reason a lot has changed is because the dudes changed back in 2013 the guys coming where mongers who went other places like Brazil etc and the were seasoned mongers nowadays the guys coming are mostly newbie never been out the country first time mongering and a 4 looks like a dime to them so when a rat say 100 dollars they jump at it because it steal where they come from. Back then the newbie to Sosua weren't newbie to mongering is what I'm trying to say. Then the guys were either ex military frat guys or some type of professional now not so much you couldn't there weren't many just regular dudes only certain dudes even knew about it.
The police and social media is another big one dimes have instagram tinder etc they don't need to all the way to Sosua to find a date. I myself don't even take girls off the street only use tinder had a girl show up and she had her own car you won't see her in Rumbas or baliees. Now I fiind the quality in Sosua to be low but when I'm around guy who come once a year they think it great I think going forward Sosua is going to be a newbie mongering location some vets will still come because they have friends here but it not at the top of the list. Another thing I've noticed about town is a lot of guys are only here because Asia is closed or was and when it does open they will leave I know that is why I'm here waiting for the PI or (Thailand I know Thailand is open now but need it to be a bit easier.)
I am no expat. I
I don't just go where sex tourism is tolerated and sex tourists are fleeced. I do not mind paying for pussy, but I am not going to be as happy as you are being gringo taxed for it. 3000 and 3500 is not a bargain in the Domimican Republic; it is a total sham!Our hobby is their hustle. Chicas don't need a reason to overprice you. If she can get away with charging you $2000 she would do it. Do US dollar becoming stronger has nothing to do with Chicas asking for more or how much you pay in the US for the same thing. It's about can she hustle you out of more money. I can afford to give a Chica $100 per session. However I understand this game and local market value. Many of us with a better understanding of this game can operate better.
I did have a chica tell me that the dollar is stronger so she has to charge more. I told her the flights or more so I have to give less. Do you think she cared how much I paid for my flight or how much prices have increased? The look on her face was dumbfounded. Whoever told her her reason was justified didn't prepare her for someone with a common sense rebuttal. I try stay out of the interactions of others who are not looking for information. But that Individualism is the reason why it's now a sellers market.
Durandpaul
11-25-21, 03:03
I have this vision of a guy from sex prison coming to Sosua, and sees the girl of his dreams. Right on the next bar stool. No cab ride across town, no fake photograph on some dating site, no showing up with her mother and brothers. She'll go for $80 dollars.
His buddy tells him not to go for it cause he'll "spoil the market" for all the other mongers! He'll tell him about all the cheap pussy he had in 2009.
Does he pull the trigger and risk humiliation by the monger crowd, and disappointing his buddy, or does he get exactly what he came for, maybe a memorable fuck he'll remember for a lifetime?
Turns out his "price control police union" buddies are getting ripped off royally by the cheap hoes. According to all reports posted here!
500,1000, or 1500, is a rip off if you are not getting what you really want!
LOL.The " let make a stand" movement and not pay more than 1500 peso doesn't make sense. I will go further the guy left the sex prison for a 7 days trip. He spent $1500 on airfare and hotel. His food and drinks budget is $200. He plans to see 3 girls a day with a budget of $200 (one all night at 100 and 2 short term at 50) for $1400 total for girls. Some girls at Bailes are the girls he has been thinking about while in the sex prison but since he has no street smart he decides to go with the dusty girls. At the german bar or those that grab your dick while you walk through the streets aka the bottom tier. He pays 1500 pesos, and only spent $ 700 on his budget for girls. Meaning he is going back to the US with $700.
He didn't get what he wanted, still horny back in the sex prison he decides to go on a date with an entitled dusty girl.
He spent $150 on the date, then she wants $500 to help on a her car note. After spending the whole 700, she gives him sum but entitled dusty now want her rent paid next month. LOL.
Going for lower quality is being weak, same as not negotiating to get close to the true price you can pay based on the number of days you have on the ground. First thing to do day one is to get as many numbers as possible then start negotiating. At some point you have to trust yourself that you have negotiating enough with a girl to either pass or pull the trigger. And just know that Mr Expact would get the same girl way cheaper than you because he has time on his side.
What you have here is a generation change. I guess I'm the bridge but I was broke in on the old school so that's how I operate. In the mid 2000's it was a different time and a different attitude. Guys kept secrets and operated within guidelines. My dad and uncles would come to the DR and it would be a secret. Usually the excuses such as to play golf or get their teeth fixed and it wasn't no internet or social media, so the secret was safe.
Now we have the new generation that don't operate within these guidelines. It's every man for themselves and do what you want. Old vets have heard " mind your own business old school and it's my money not yours". The internet and social media has made it a free fall. With that the girls have changed from GFE to hourly fucks. Before the girls didn't have phones but now it's as normal as high top tennis shoes. Also mongers have become lazy because the internet has given everyone instant access.
I'm stuck in the old way and I even have changed with the times. I have never paid 100 usd for an hour but I have paid 80 usd for TLN which includes morning fun. I have learned to mind my own business and let the new guys do what.
They want. No more taking guys under my wing and trying to school them to the old ways because times have changed and they don't care.
I guess I'm an old dinosaur in a new mans game LOL.
SamSam2004
11-25-21, 04:48
Maybe some of you don't care about the money, all right. But do you care about the performance of the girl? Because let me tell you something very true that many long time mongers can confirm: The more you pay, the less the girl is going to respect you and take care of your needs. That's a fact. When you overpay she'll think you're stupid and therefore you don't deserve to be taking care of properly. She'll try to press you like hell and end the meeting as soon as she can. That's how they act and not only in DR. I've been in Colombia, Brazil, Paraguay, Peru, Thailand, Philippines, Cambodia, Vietnam, Morocco, Tanzania, Kenya, Burma, all over Europe and it's always the same story. Overpaying won't get you better sex and actually It's probably going to be quite the opposite. And the fact that you can afford to pay 200 Usd for a pack of m&m's will only make you stupid if you pay that amount. It won't taste any better than the 2 Usd pack. You will only blow it for the others who can't pay that price. You are killing the scene. If you look at Sosua now, you have to pay more for awful sex most of the time. That's the only thing you get when people overpay. Do what you want anyway, but for me, I don't think I'll be back anytime soon here.
Maybe some of you don't care about the money, all right. But do you care about the performance of the girl? Because let me tell you something very true that many long time mongers can confirm: The more you pay, the less the girl is going to respect you and take care of your needs. That's a fact. When you overpay she'll think you're stupid and therefore you don't deserve to be taking care of properly. She'll try to press you like hell and end the meeting as soon as she can. That's how they act and not only in DR. I've been in Colombia, Brazil, Paraguay, Peru, Thailand, Philippines, Cambodia, Vietnam, Morocco, Tanzania, Kenya, Burma, all over Europe and it's always the same story. Overpaying won't get you better sex and actually It's probably going to be quite the opposite. And the fact that you can afford to pay 200 Usd for a pack of m&m's will only make you stupid if you pay that amount. It won't taste any better than the 2 Usd pack. You will only blow it for the others who can't pay that price. You are killing the scene. If you look at Sosua now, you have to pay more for awful sex most of the time. That's the only thing you get when people overpay. Do what you want anyway, but for me, I don't think I'll be back anytime soon here.Don't let the door hit ya! LOL.
You said:
"On la Clisante between 2:00 pm and 7:00 I took 3 girls for 1500 on Short time. On tinder I sent the same message to all the girls I matched: 1000 for short time, 2000 for the whole night with 2 shots. If you live after the first time I pay you only 1000 and same thing if you live before 8:00 am. Some chicas sent smileys, some tried to bargain which I have automatically rejected, and some accepted. They weren't the pretty ones of course, but I only took these ones."
Let me get this straight.
You found pussy, didn't overpay, and you say they respected you.
So, what's your beef?
Most of us can find ugly girls to fuck, for free back home. No need to spend $thousands on airlines and hotels.
The beauty of Sosua (and other sex tourist spots) is that you can find young, beautiful chicas, that would not look out of place in a beauty contest, or on a fashion show runway, or on TV, belting out her latest hit.
Now you won't get a P4P WG for your 1000,1500, 2000, unless she's drunk, or desperate for a fix. You can't get steak at hamburger prices.
And as an expat here, I can tell you that $80, $100 and even $200 hookers do give good service, although we don't pay those "monger prices". We hang with them and party with them as friends. Some I've known for years.
But you wouldn't know, because you say you wouldn't pay those prices.
Maybe some of you don't care about the money, all right. But do you care about the performance of the girl? Because let me tell you something very true that many long time mongers can confirm: The more you pay, the less the girl is going to respect you and take care of your needs. That's a fact. When you overpay she'll think you're stupid and therefore you don't deserve to be taking care of properly. She'll try to press you like hell and end the meeting as soon as she can. That's how they act and not only in DR. I've been in Colombia, Brazil, Paraguay, Peru, Thailand, Philippines, Cambodia, Vietnam, Morocco, Tanzania, Kenya, Burma, all over Europe and it's always the same story. Overpaying won't get you better sex and actually It's probably going to be quite the opposite. And the fact that you can afford to pay 200 Usd for a pack of m&m's will only make you stupid if you pay that amount. It won't taste any better than the 2 Usd pack. You will only blow it for the others who can't pay that price. You are killing the scene. If you look at Sosua now, you have to pay more for awful sex most of the time. That's the only thing you get when people overpay. Do what you want anyway, but for me, I don't think I'll be back anytime soon here.What's the problem with you Americans? You pay a lot of money for 20 minutes of ficky ficky bullshit. You don't know anything else. It is a dream for you? Have you ever been to another country? Sorry but this whole discussion is bullshit.
SamSam2004
11-25-21, 20:29
Don't let the door hit ya! LOL.
You said:
"On la Clisante between 2:00 pm and 7:00 I took 3 girls for 1500 on Short time. On tinder I sent the same message to all the girls I matched: 1000 for short time, 2000 for the whole night with 2 shots. If you live after the first time I pay you only 1000 and same thing if you live before 8:00 am. Some chicas sent smileys, some tried to bargain which I have automatically rejected, and some accepted. They weren't the pretty ones of course, but I only took these ones."
Let me get this straight.
You found pussy, didn't overpay, and you say they respected you.
So, what's your beef?
Most of us can find ugly girls to fuck, for free back home. No need to spend $thousands on airlines and hotels..It's like you said, I can get ugly girls in my country for free. And I get pretty ones for between 40 and 70 euros. I don't need to pay a ticket, a hotel and extra expenses for quick bad sex with a girl who has an awful attitude. In other third world countries you can het very good sex with pretty girls for the whole night for less than 40 usd. That's a fact. So DR is over for me. It doesn't worth it. And the funny thing is, that you can F pretty Dominican girls in Germany in the Eros centers in Frankfurt and Berlin for 25 euros. DR is a beautiful country but tve P4P scene sucks big time.
SamSam2004
11-25-21, 20:37
What's the problem with you Americans? You pay a lot of money for 20 minutes of ficky ficky bullshit. You don't know anything else. It is a dream for you? Have you ever been to another country? Sorry but this whole discussion is bullshit.Unfortunately it's not the Americans my friend. Many Americans won't agree to overpay but some will. And it's the same thing with Europeans countries and rich middle east ones. Look at what happened to Pattaya. It's exactly the same thing. People don't negotiate and agree to whatever the girls are asking for. You can see it in the prices and feel it in their attitude. They are spoiled, lazy and not caring. Thank god for Africa and some countries in south America. The days of the simps are upon us.
It's like you said, I can get ugly girls in my country for free. And I get pretty ones for between 40 and 70 euros. I don't need to pay a ticket, a hotel and extra expenses for quick bad sex with a girl who has an awful attitude. In other third world countries you can het very good sex with pretty girls for the whole night for less than 40 usd. That's a fact. So DR is over for me. It doesn't worth it. And the funny thing is, that you can F pretty Dominican girls in Germany in the Eros centers in Frankfurt and Berlin for 25 euros. DR is a beautiful country but tve P4P scene sucks big time.Maybe you should have read the Forum before you wasted your money on the trip. There's no money back guarantee here, and no Complaints Department. It's not Booking dot com, or Trip Advisor.
A quick perusal of the posts here will tell you that mongers who expect a hot international beauty to fuck them for 1000 pesos ($20), or 1500 pesos ($25) are always disappointed, and they are the chronic complainers. It's the guys who shop for quality not price, who are the happy campers down here. Folks tend to get what they pay for. All booze is not the same, all cigars, cars, contractors, and especially all hookers are not the same.
If a guy has game, he can fuck for free just about anywhere in the World if he wants to spend time on traditional dating, and all the bullcrap that goes with that. I've been there, done that, although apart from DR, I've never had the inclination to go to all the other monger heavens that are constantly being flogged in the Sosua Forum, for some weird reason. (Well, I might make an exception for Osaka, LOL.)
Besides Americans and Canadians, there's a large number of Europeans who are regular visitors here. Lots of Scandinavians, Dutch and especially Germans with restaurants that cater to them. German is the second most useful language here. They have no trouble getting laid, LOL.
Going for lower quality is being weak, same as not negotiating to get close to the true price you can pay based on the number of days you have on the ground. First thing to do day one is to get as many numbers as possible then start negotiating. At some point you have to trust yourself that you have negotiating enough with a girl to either pass or pull the trigger. And just know that Mr Expact would get the same girl way cheaper than you because he has time on his side.I doubt MrE gets his P4P pussy cheaper than we who live here. Especially when you factor in his World travel budget, which is not available to most mongers.
We get "friends with benefits", and I can't remember the last time I had to "negotiate" a price for pussy!
So low balling girls will get you respect is BS. If you get a girl to accept a price she is not happy with you are getting a bad fuck. I have been doing this for 10 years and have seen about everything. I try to build a repore with the girls I fuck. I treat them with respect and often like them as people. I remember whem 1500 was the going rate I also remember penny candy and 10 dollar Converse tennis shoes. I happen to be a Gringo so paying gringo prices does not bother me because I can aff0rd it. Us short term guys do not have time to be tight wodds waiting for the hot girls to lower there prices. There are guys who will pay them and they know it. I like attractive girls who perform. I would rather have a 7 who fucks my brains out over a 10 who is so so in the bed. Girls respond to kindness and it does not make you weak. The girls call low ballers cheapy cheapys. There are some girls who are not nice people but the DR has a lot girls working who are genuinely sweet. The biggest change in Sosua are the guys who are the customers. They are younger have less money and want numbers. They bust a nut and are looking for the next girl. There is nothing wrong with that but the girls have adoted to this style. For us old timers it is frustrating because we experienced the GFE days. However times change and why you have to learn to adapt. I have and I am still having a great time. At the end of the day you know what you can afford to get what you want. Who cares what guy driving Kia thinks about you driving a Porsche it is your money.
I woulld rather have a 7 who fucks my brains out over a 10 who is so so in the bed.That explains a lot.
Mr Enternational
11-26-21, 03:31
I woulld rather have a 7 who fucks my brains out over a 10 who is so so in the bed.I would rather have a 10 who fucks my brains out than a 7 who is so so in bed. Come to think of it, I would rather have a bunch of better shit than a bunch of worse shit.
I try to build a repore with the girls I fuck. I treat them with respect and often like them as people.You were not saying that when that hood rat was eating off your plate at the restaurant! You should have let her get full so you could get some rapport. That was a funny ass story OK.
The girls call low ballers cheapy cheapys.Of course, to try to guilt them into paying more. And regular people call the girls cueros. You think they care about that? So why would a guy care about a chick that is trying to get his money calling him cheap? Maybe you have something to prove to the hookers. If you went to the car dealer and they called you cheap, I guess you would buy the most expensive thing on the lot to show them you can afford it.
Maybe some of you don't care about the money, all right. But do you care about the performance of the girl? Because let me tell you something very true that many long time mongers can confirm: The more you pay, the less the girl is going to respect you and take care of your needs. Slight correction: it's rather the more you OVERpay the less she's going to respect you.
Having said that, I think the budget you set for your vacation was not realistic for Sosua. As you mentioned yourself, the girls you got for your prices weren't pretty. So what's the point flying a few thousands miles to fuck ugly women?
I never try to negotiate the bottom with a girl. If anything, you need to be fair, too.
I remember paying 1,000 pesos for a nice Haitian a long time ago, but she went with us because I was with a buddy, so she got 2 K total for servicing us both.
And did I mention that it was a long time ago?
On the other hand, I won't pay American money in a third-world country. That's ridiculous. I just won't.
But I wouldn't mind paying 2. 5-3 K for a quality fuck. The "quality" part is a bigger problem in Sosua than their asking rates IMHO.
We all agree that Sosua has changed. We all agree that the quality of the street meat has declined. Lots of complaints that P4P is not what it used to be. Blame has been put on greedy chicas, police roundups, the mayor closing down the bars, weekend warriors, old guys taking over, young guys taking over, the list is endless.
To me, the reasons are obvious.
There are just as many (probably more) beautiful girls being born in the DR as ever, and a sizeable proportion of them (maybe more) look to the P4 P game, as a legal means of escaping poverty.
What has changed is technology. Now they are connected. Online social media, WhatsApp and other instant communication sites has made it possible for hookers to communicate with their clients by smartphone.
Now through WhatsApp, Scype, etc, they can stay in touch with their favorite clients anywhere in the World, for free!
Back in the day, they had no such convenience, it was all cruising for customers in person, looking to meet on the beaches, bars, clubs and the street.
The quality chicas, GFE types, who were never comfortable flashing their wares for all the Sosua public to see, or arguing that they are not full time SWs, now don't have to, so they don't.
Only the low grade hardcore types, who have no regular client base or good referrals, hang out in public, and walk the street. And they find the guys, mostly newbies, who haven't any connections, or the time to set them up.
This has obviously hurt the casual newbie mongering business, but the guys and gals who are connected, and have referrals, are doing good quality transactions, probably more, and better than ever.
The game has changed, and won't ever be the same!
I'd be surprised if those other oft mentioned sex tourist spots are not going that way too.
Adapt.
What's the problem with you Americans? You pay a lot of money for 20 minutes of ficky ficky bullshit. You don't know anything else. It is a dream for you? Have you ever been to another country? Sorry but this whole discussion is bullshit.Everyone is overthinking mongering situation. Simple thing is go and have fun. One man's 10 is another man's 5. I like to spend time with a girl who I think is attractive enough to keep my dick strong. Irrespective of the agreed amount I tend to overpay if the service is good. There is no set fee.
So low balling girls will get you respect is BS. If you get a girl to accept a price she is not happy with you are getting a bad fuck. .....Ever see the girls the cheapie charlies say they get good service from? Normal punters would not go anywhere near them, 5's and below, end of story!
For us in and out guys your info is useless. *You are satisfied going to low budget casas and playing pimp daddy to *poor local girls who have the misfortune of crossing your path. Most guys here may come once or twice a year. Consequently the price the girls charge is no big deal. This forum is primarily about P4P. Sosua provides great access to Dominican girls. You have the made the point that Sosua is not for you and that is cool. Why you continue to down a place you do not frequent blows my mine. No one on forum wants to hear about your free pussy. I am happy paying for what I want and I am enjoying getting it. I Continue to share meals with chicas and find it enjoyable and a way to achieve mutual respect.
I would rather have a 10 who fucks my brains out than a 7 who is so so in bed. Come to think of it, I would rather have a bunch of better shit than a bunch of worse shit.
You were not saying that when that hood rat was eating off your plate at the restaurant! You should have let her get full so you could get some rapport. That was a funny ass story OK.
Of course, to try to guilt them into paying more. And regular people call the girls cueros. You think they care about that? So why would a guy care about a chick that is trying to get his money calling him cheap? Maybe you have something to prove to the hookers. If you went to the car dealer and they called you cheap, I guess you would buy the most expensive thing on the lot to show them you can afford it.
Only the low grade hardcore types, who have no regular client base or good referrals, hang out in public, and walk the street. And they find the guys, mostly newbies, who haven't any connections, or the time to set them up.Earlier this year when I began reading this board for my first trip, I always thought your posts were very informative. Sure, I'd be called a newbie as far as Sosua goes, compared to regulars, but after being there, I have to disagree with the above statement. Now, before some regulars chime in about newbies not knowing how it used to be, hold on. It doesn't take a genius to know what good service it. I already heard it from a regular when I was there. He was a good guy, but busting my balls for only going after street girls, saying they're low quality. Then, he showed me a photo on his phone of one of "his" girls, telling me, that's quality. I saw nothing special about her, and said I wouldn't pay a nickel for her. I think I hurt the poor guy's feelings. The point is, it depends on your style. I picked entirely from the street and beach while I was there, and had great girls, never rushed, and all stayed to chat for a while afterward without asking for ridiculous amounts of 3,000+ pesos. I simply told them what I would pay and that was that. Never once did I ask "how much". I enjoyed walking the streets, messing with the girls every step of the way. It was a good time, a lot of joking and laughing. I'm sure to the regulars, these street girls have a stigma, that's why they stay away. I agree there are hardcore dirtball girls on the strip, but they're easy to spot and avoid. For future newbies reading that above statement, they might get discouraged. When in reality you don't necessarily need a network or to have connections, you just need to have common sense in your selections.
Triple Darknes
11-27-21, 02:26
I've learned a lot from Mr. Gogo. He schooled me when I first came to Santo Domingo not knowing a thing and during COVID.
I've also learned that dudes really like South Beach and even when going abroad that they still want the South Beach Las Vegas experience. One could say "why not just go to South Beach or Vegas?" I guess the answer would be they want to be in countries where if the "dimes" that they want decide that 250 USD is not enough that they can bribe their way out of jail.
I say C'est la vie. It's your vacation and your money.
I would say to veterans who would say "the third world is not like the america value doesn't increase with cost" You're just going to have to range out to POP on the malecon, and even out to places like Montellano. The days where a cute girl with a bill would take a quick trip to sosua to resolve the issue is dead. Sure you have so barrio girls from Santo Domingo and Santiago willing to make the trip, If you're lucky you might find a diamond in the rough campo cutie from La Union on Playa Sosua. But thinking that you're going to get a Law student from Santiago on PC or even Bailiee's? Not going to happen. There's more Vennies (and trannies) in Anhvee than there are Santo Domingo "weekend warriors".
Really dudes are paying for the experience of being around women way better looking than the ones that they're around back home and 100 USD for 20 minutes is a small amount to pay for that.
That being said If you're looking for the "finer things in life" and want South South Beach / Liv on Sundays King of Diamond's mondays then I suggest that you go to the Sue on a Major american holiday weekend (except chirstmas and easter) and go to the Casino.
I also suggest that if you really want dimes that you go to the club in the W&P hotel in Santo Domingo, all of the dimes won't be available but that's where the baddest chicks on the island are consistently. #getyourweightup.
Hope this Helps.
Trip.
Triple Darknes
11-27-21, 04:47
One thing about working girls all over the world is almost none of them see it as a profession and I'm talking about the ones who've been doing it full time for years.
THE PRICE IS WHATEVER THEY FEEL IT SHOULD BE. (I'm not yelling I just couldn't bold the text).
Meaning what most women do especially the one's in Sosua is they have a money jam, Rent's due, Baby needs new shoes, They see an Iphone they want and they know the quickest way to get it is to either turn on their tinder account or take a trip to sosua or both. The average two bedroom apartment in Santo Domingo este is 175 a month. So if a chica needs to make 175 then that's what she wants. If the Monger agrees to pay that great it's a win win. If the monger is a vet or an expat and knows that the same chica would jump at a monger picking her up on the el conde stroll or Tinder or tagged for 1500 pesos she might add in the cost of the bust trip accommodations and food for her (again most chicas will go to spots near the bus drop off point at the end of playa sosua or near the bust station and buy a meal for 100 to 200 pesos) and charge the monger 2000 to 2500 pesos especially in the daytime and figure she'll find a big spender who wants to pay her the first quote that she says. Again the 2000 peso monger is a win win situation because that's still 2000 more pesos than she had and she understands that there are other mongers willing to pay varying rates.
It's all in the game, It's just like the used car salesman and the real estate broker, sometimes someone will do their research and drive a hard bargain then another dude will come in an accept the first offer thrown out there the most important thing is that the sale is made.
Hope this Helps.
Trip.
Triple Darknes
11-27-21, 05:04
For us in and out guys your info is useless. *You are satisfied going to low budget casas and playing pimp daddy to *poor local girls who have the misfortune of crossing your path. Most guys here may come once or twice a year. Consequently the price the girls charge is no big deal. This forum is primarily about P4 P. Sosua provides great access to Dominican girls. You have the made the point that Sosua is not for you and that is cool. Why you contitue to down a place you do not frequent blows my mine. No one on forum wants to hear about your free pussy. I am happy paying for what I want and I am ejoying getting it. I Continue to share meals with chicas and find it enjoyable and a way to achieve mutual respect.I was with you except when you said playing "pimp daddy" to "poor girls" and sharing meals achieves mutual respect. Like I said I spent a year on the Island I "played pimp daddy" to a chica who drove an SUV and had a salon she literally sold herself only to get up the money for the salon and through a referral during COVID. Again whatever rate you agree on if fine, But if a chcia charged you 1000 USD you'd probably sound like Mr. E complaining how no third world hoe is worth that. Just like a monger in Vegas will tell you that he's happy to pay 1000 bucks a night for "GFE" with a stripper.
You can share meals with a chica but that doesn't mean she respects you. The difference, the only difference between a third world hoe and an American hoe is that at least the third world hoe respects the money whether it's 1000 2000 3000 4000 or 10,000 pesos the Dominican chica is willing to be nice and smile at you to get the pesos, she's willing to fuck first and take the money on the back end, hang out, laugh at corny jokes that she doesn't understand and treat you how you want to be treated but other than that she wouldn't shit on you if she had explosive diarrhea and you were on fire.
Again no argument from me what you pay shit I'd love to have a woman here where I can with a Dominicana's atittude instead of the entitled "I'll think about it" attitude where there's a 50 50 chance that a chick will come over for a weeks salary for an hour's worth of work. I love the DR.
Hope this Helps.
Trips.
Earlier this year when I began reading this board for my first trip, I always thought your posts were very informative. Sure, I'd be called a newbie as far as Sosua goes, compared to regulars, but after being there, I have to disagree with the above statement. Now, before some regulars chime in about newbies not knowing how it used to be, hold on. It doesn't take a genius to know what good service it. I already heard it from a regular when I was there. He was a good guy, but busting my balls for only going after street girls, saying they're low quality. Then, he showed me a photo on his phone of one of "his" girls, telling me, that's quality. I saw nothing special about her, and said I wouldn't pay a nickel for her. I think I hurt the poor guy's feelings. The point is, it depends on your style. I picked entirely from the street and beach while I was there, and had great girls, never rushed, and all stayed to chat for a while afterward without asking for ridiculous amounts of 3,000+ pesos. I simply told them what I would pay and that was that. Never once did I ask "how much". I enjoyed walking the streets, messing with the girls every step of the way. It was a good time, a lot of joking and laughing. I'm sure to the regulars, these street girls have a stigma, that's why they stay away. I agree there are hardcore dirtball girls on the strip, but they're easy to spot and avoid. For future newbies reading that above statement, they might get discouraged. When in reality you don't necessarily need a network or to have connections, you just need to have common sense in your selections.Actually, I totally agree with you.
I'm a "to each his own" believer.
Some mongers like the low mileage less experienced chicas, while others like the totally wild and crazy ones, who know all the moves, and how to satisfy a guy.
Especially if he like my buddy, stuck in a marriage back home with a frigid WG, who haven't slept together for 20 years. A blow job is something he only sees on online porn sites.
It's all good!
I was with you except when you said playing "pimp daddy" to "poor girls" and sharing meals achieves mutual respect. Like I said I spent a year on the Island I "played pimp daddy" to a chica who drove an SUV and had a salon she literally sold herself only to get up the money for the salon and through a referral during COVID. Again whatever rate you agree on if fine, But if a chcia charged you 1000 USD you'd probably sound like Mr. E complaining how no third world hoe is worth that. Just like a monger in Vegas will tell you that he's happy to pay 1000 bucks a night for "GFE" with a stripper.
You can share meals with a chica but that doesn't mean she respects you. The difference, the only difference between a third world hoe and an American hoe is that at least the third world hoe respects the money whether it's 1000 2000 3000 4000 or 10,000 pesos the Dominican chica is willing to be nice and smile at you to get the pesos, she's willing to fuck first and take the money on the back end, hang out, laugh at corny jokes that she doesn't understand and treat you how you want to be treated but other than that she wouldn't shit on you if she had explosive diarrhea and you were on fire.
Again no argument from me what you pay shit I'd love to have a woman here where I can with a Dominicana's atittude instead of the entitled "I'll think about it" attitude where there's a 50 50 chance that a chick will come over for a weeks salary for an hour's worth of work. I love the DR.
Hope this Helps.
Trips.Good posts, Trip.
If you want to buy pussy, Sosua is a good place.
If you think you can buy "respect" forget it!
That can't be bought from a chica anywhere in the World. Respect can only be earned!
If you want to buy pussy, Sosua is a good place.
If you think you can buy "respect" forget it! That can't be BOUGHT, it can only be earned!
I keep my regular on a reasonable, but tight budget.
A couple years ago I had to go to the Sosua emergency clinic (otherwise known as la Carneceria) in the middle of the night, with severe plumbing problems. Couple of hours later, she shows up. Jungle telegraph I guess.
Takes charge, she's good at that. Talks and translates with the doctors. I'm in there 3 days doing all the tests, and she never leaves my side, even sleeps in my small hospital bed while I'm hooked up to every tube stuck in every orifice I have. The verdict. Necessary operation. She say's no! It's a urinary infection. No operation in Sosua, meanwhile they got my credit card and it's going up fast.
She says if necessary he goes to Canada for operation. In spite of the pain, I'm actually laughing at all this shit. She finally signs me outa there with a bunch of anti-biotics and pain killer prescriptions. A week later everything clears up. 2 years now and never felt better.
Then:
While I was away this summer, she went quiet for a couple days, no "love you" texts.
Then I got a suspicious call from a dude in SD. He say your chica en hospital and nececita dinero. Oh fuck, here we go, LOL. I say who the fuck are you, he say familia en SD. I say let me talk to her or tell her to text me. She calls, doesn't sound good, tells me about it.
I cut to the chase, cuanta cuesta? (Here we go, the big hit! LOL).
She says she's feeling better, and she could use 2000 pesos for prescriptions, and bus fare home for her and her amiga, from SD to PP.
Respect? Hell yes!
My well healed BUDDY who knows her, calls me a cheap be. The. , but I tell him I don't want to "spoil the market" for the other mongers, LOL.
So I got no time for guys who stereotype DR chicas (or anybody else, for that matter).
With that attitude, they will have nothing but bad experiences, and sad rip off stories to tell.
Ever wonder why you blokes out there can't go to South Beach or any similar place in the US and pick up babes? Its because of American men NOT the women. American men are the worst, they grovel behind women, treat them like gold and throw money behind them. No wonder the women fancy themselves the way they do.
Latin American men, for example, are different, first of all they do not have the financial resources of American men and also they have a different attitude to women, for them they are the boss and ensure that the women know this. As a result the women are more subservient and treat the men better.
I am not saying to dime and nickel women and treat them poorly. There is a happy medium where you gift them an appropriate amount and treat them like human beings, nothing wrong in treating them to an occasional meal.
Latin women like to be led, if it's dancing, hanging out, or in the bedroom. They like a Latin dude that is not weak. Otherwise they will run all over you till you say no. I believe in fair play but being unpredictable and spontaneous has always worked for me. Sometimes I say no when I want to say yes just to control the narrative. I believe you work with them in their lane and not bring them to your lane.
Ex: Dominican girls drink presidente when it's their money but want Corona when it's your money. I tell them it's presidente or nothing and they humbly submit. Some here will say it's only 150 peso difference but it's not their lane. Why should I talk stocks and Bitcoin with these girls when all they know is salon, nails, manicure and Pico polo? I work within their lane.
I don't buy girls lobster and fancy steak, I might buy her beans, rice, and chicken plus occasionally a fish but these are not girls walking around selling pussy on the beach or in the street. I don't allow street girls to sit with me unless invited, no propping your ass down uninvited to my table.
I understand weekend warriors have limited time and unlimited money so I let them do it their way. If buying a street girl a meal makes you happy and maybe the girl will like you more in your mind, go for it. As I said I've changed with the times. I let a guy live his fantasy and pay accordingly but when I see a girl running her hustle on him I tend to stay in my lane and let her get in his.
NeilGeorge
11-27-21, 16:39
There is a happy medium where you gift them an appropriate amount and treat them like human beings, nothing wrong in treating them to an occasional meal.Sorry to let you judge what my happy medium may be. What is "appropriate" a "gift" and "treatment like a human being" "nothing wrong in".
I am the Captain of my own ship. And Mr. Happy makes the offers. Not you.
Sorry to let you judge what my happy medium may be. What is "appropriate" a "gift" and "treatment like a human being" "nothing wrong in".
I am the Captain of my own ship. And Mr. Happy makes the offers. Not you.You are wrong sir. I am the captain of your ship, you are to do as I say. LOL.
I have to disagree with the above statement. Now, before some regulars chime in about newbies not knowing how it used to be, hold on. It doesn't take a genius to know what good service it. Never once did I ask "how much". I enjoyed walking the streets, .Wow really my man? I don't disagree with your choice to disagree. But I think his generalization of chicas in Bailey holds weight.
He's basing his opinion from living there, observing the culture, meeting the people, knowing the area, and putting you up on game. I agree with his View. I think it's a correct generalization.
I'm familiar with a few of them and they mostly flock together. I'm also a little familiar with the ones known to provide good service. They don't hang out at the union hall. They have work to do or you can catch them in the Western Union line.
Whatever your doing I applaud you. You're obviously doing something right and we all can learn from it. How often do they except whatever you offer? Would you say they give you the GFE experience? What's your record?
THE PRICE IS WHATEVER THEY FEEL IT SHOULD BE. (I'm not yelling I just couldn't bold the text).
The price is what the MARKet will bear.
The value is all in the guys head.
Some guys associate price with quality, some want to impress others, some want value, some have no time to search, guys who want to fool themselves it wasn't about money etc. Etc. Etc.
I have been going to Sosua for years and am so grateful Bailees is there. The food is decent and for early action it is the only game in town. The quality of the girls there is not bad. There is a constant churn so you can see 30 girls or more girls with in a short time. The girls no that guys are there so they post up for us. If I was an expat maybe I would not need Sosua but for us sex starved bros it is a God send. Bailees is a key element in making Sosua work for us mongers.
Wow really my man? I don't disagree with your choice to disagree. But I think his generalization of chicas in Bailey holds weight.
He's basing his opinion from living there, observing the culture, meeting the people, knowing the area, and putting you up on game. I agree with his View. I think it's a correct generalization.
I'm familiar with a few of them and they mostly flock together. I'm also a little familiar with the ones known to provide good service. They don't hang out at the union hall. They have work to do or you can catch them in the Western Union line.
Whatever your doing I applaud you. You're obviously doing something right and we all can learn from it. How often do they except whatever you offer? Would you say they give you the GFE experience? What's your record?
Coolie High
11-29-21, 08:47
Latin women like to be led, if it's dancing, hanging out, or in the bedroom. They like a Latin dude that is not weak. Otherwise they will run all over you till you say no. I believe in fair play but being unpredictable and spontaneous has always worked for me. Sometimes I say no when I want to say yes just to control the narrative. I believe you work with them in their lane and not bring them to your lane.
Ex: Dominican girls drink presidente when it's their money but want Corona when it's your money. I tell them it's presidente or nothing and they humbly submit. Some here will say it's only 150 peso difference but it's not their lane. Why should I talk stocks and Bitcoin with these girls when all they know is salon, nails, manicure and Pico polo? I work within their lane.
I don't buy girls lobster and fancy steak, I might buy her beans, rice, and chicken plus occasionally a fish but these are not girls walking around selling pussy on the beach or in the street. I don't allow street girls to sit with me unless invited, no propping your ass down uninvited to my table.
I understand weekend warriors have limited time and unlimited money so I let them do it their way. If buying a street girl a meal makes you happy and maybe the girl will like you more in your mind, go for it. As I said I've changed with the times. I let a guy live his fantasy and pay accordingly but when I see a girl running her hustle on him I tend to stay in my lane and let her get in his.Every new person venturing to DR for the first time should read Gogo post first. I've notice 3 major successful traits within every O. G. Monger that posted in here that lives in DR or comes there frequently.
1. You lead and they follow. I. e. Its your way or the highway. Women down there only respect strength, so you lead the way at all times. As Oakie and some of the rest of monger gents have shown you thru their post you can be kind etc towards the ladies BUT also have a back bone to say no to their face and be willing to drop there ass and move on if she trys to acts up or play games.
2. Keep it simple. Gogo said it best. Understand, learn the culture and work within there lane. I don't need to have convo about stock and bonds with them. But she knows how to cook, clean and make sure your ass is taken care of from head to toe. From having your daily vitamins and blood pressure meds ready for you to take on a daily basis down to fixing your drunk ass some Sancocho after a night of partying to cure that pounding headache of yours, let her do what she do best.
3. Those that listen and take sound advice from folks that live and operate in DR on a daily basis. This should be No. 1 trait above all else. You're NOT in Kansas anymore so its a damn shame to not take the time and listen to expats that's consistently avoided DR pitfalls for years / decades. Those that listen to sound advice are the ones that avoid ALOT of unnecessary drama. Those that stay stuck on stupid or do it solely their way because they been successful in 30 other countries and blah blah blah tend to get taken for 250 US dollars for 30 mins of pleasure, get in constant fights with the girls or worst yet wind up in a dominican jail trying to figure how are they going to eat tomorrow.
If a man can incorporate just these 3 vital traits when going down to DR hes going to win overall majority of the time with setbacks being little to none. Those who can't I advise you to stay the fuck out of DR because this island will overpower you with its onslaught of carribean madness where logic and sanity is thrown out the window and swallow your ass hole.
And often time those that don't have a good time in DR and constantly complain lack these 3 traits.
Wow really my man? I don't disagree with your choice to disagree. But I think his generalization of chicas in Bailey holds weight.
He's basing his opinion from living there, observing the culture, meeting the people, knowing the area, and putting you up on game. I agree with his View. I think it's a correct generalization.
I'm familiar with a few of them and they mostly flock together. I'm also a little familiar with the ones known to provide good service. They don't hang out at the union hall. They have work to do or you can catch them in the Western Union line.
Whatever your doing I applaud you. You're obviously doing something right and we all can learn from it. How often do they except whatever you offer? Would you say they give you the GFE experience? What's your record?First, I'd like to say that many of the regular contributors to this forum helped quite a bit during my research before the first trip, especially Oakie. His posts were fantastic. I was only disagreeing that all street girls were the bottom of the barrel. I know everyone has their own style. Some guys like to sit in Bailey's and take what I call "the deer stand approach", staying in one spot and choosing whatever walks by them. I can't do that; I have to go out and hunt. If it was during the day, I walked the beach. In the evening, I walked Pedro.
Sometimes I'd walk the strip half a dozen times before choosing. The obvious hardcore girls were easy to avoid, but I would talk with plenty of girls as I made my way down the strip. I'd get to know them a little, remember what they said, and then I'd move on. A small percentage didn't like me not pulling the trigger right then and there. But, by the second or third time I came back around the strip, they remembered me, and would quickly wave me down, or grab my arm. No kidding, at one point, I had two girls arguing over who was going to go with me. The main thing I tried to do when speaking with them one on one is establish an immediate rapport by asking a question of what they liked, music, hobbies, anything. Then, I would give them the "me too" line, even if it wasn't true. When you chameleon yourself like that, the girls remember it. It's actually a sales technique. By the time I finally chose a girl, she would hang onto my arm as if she had won something. It was very psychological. I think that was a big contributing factor of why they gave good service.
A quick story: One girl I met on the strip was named Cassandra. She was 23 yrs, and a parda mix (West African, Spaniard, and Taino indigenous). She was down a ways, away from the center of things just sitting on a set of steps by herself. Instead of standing over her, and propositioning, I sat down next to her on the same step, and cracked a joke. I made her laugh, asked her where she was from, gave her a compliment, made small talk, ect. When I felt the time was right, I offered her 1500 pesos for an hour. She nodded with a smile. That girl was the best of the entire trip. She rode me so well, I'm convinced she could've won a bucking bronco competition. She ended up staying for an hour and a half, and didn't ask for more. We chatted, took a bunch of photos, and when it came time for her to go, I gave her a bottle of water, told her to be careful out there, and good luck. She threw her arms around me, and thanked me for caring.
It's a case of a little bit goes a long way. Without getting into details, I have experience on what it's like to be on the proverbial other side of the tracks. Actually treat them like people, and it's amazing what you'll get in return. To answer your questions: I only stuck to short time and paid once. I would say that all my experiences were in line of a GFE as in there was no rushing, the girls really got into it, and it didn't feel like a transaction. I was with a Haitian girl who became a little too attached, but that's another story. I'm not sure what you mean by my record. Sorry for the long post, but maybe it'll help some folks out.
To each his own. Paying USA prices in other countries is absurd. I had kept a very pretty girl from Santiago for three days and she was happy with 2000 pesos a day. We toured everywhere and ate at nice restaurants. I do not like ST in general. Sex gets better if you stay together longer.
Most I ever paid for sex was $1000. It happened in Atlantic City. I won lot of money one evening and I knew one Korean massage place I frequented. I knew the owner lady. They charged $150 for massage and sex for one hour. This time I asked the lady if I can have prettiest girl who needs to stay with me for two nights. She brought this young girl and said she is a fresh girl arrived that week. Cost for two days were negotiated $700. I told the lady that I will be taking the girl for dinner and shows like a GF and she needs to pack nice dresses. Lady said okay. And I knew usually the massage place holds the I. The of the girl and she needs to give to her. This girl said she just arrived in USA couple of weeks ago from a village in Korea. Very friendly. She did not want condom. We had a great fun filled 2 days. And I gave her $300 tip. Unfortunately after couple of weeks I went looking for but she was moved from there.
Never paid more than $200ST in many places in USA.
To each his own. Paying USA prices in other countries is absurd. I had kept a very pretty girl from Santiago for three days and she was happy with 2000 pesos a day. We toured everywhere and ate at nice restaurants. I do not like ST in general. Sex gets better if you stay together longer.
Most I ever paid for sex was $1000. It happened in Atlantic City. I won lot of money one evening and I knew one Korean massage place I frequented. I knew the owner lady. They charged $150 for massage and sex for one hour. This time I asked the lady if I can have prettiest girl who needs to stay with me for two nights. She brought this young girl and said she is a fresh girl arrived that week. Cost for two days were negotiated $700. I told the lady that I will be taking the girl for dinner and shows like a GF and she needs to pack nice dresses. Lady said okay. And I knew usually the massage place holds the I. The of the girl and she needs to give to her. This girl said she just arrived in USA couple of weeks ago from a village in Korea. Very friendly. She did not want condom. We had a great fun filled 2 days. And I gave her $300 tip. Unfortunately after couple of weeks I went looking for but she was moved from there.
Never paid more than $200ST in many places in USA.Yep. $150 is still quite possible in a USA Major cities massage parlors or from independents when they get to know you well. We're not talking model quality, but neither are the street girls of Pedro Gisante. Why people are cheerfully paying that kind of money in a third-world country is beyond comprehension.
Mr Enternational
11-29-21, 20:28
Yep. $150 is still quite possible in a USA Major cities massage parlors or from independents when they get to know you well.$40 is normal at the tons of strip clubs where I am from. $150 must be New York and Los Angeles prices.
$40 is normal at the tons of strip clubs where I am from. $150 must be New York and Los Angeles prices.Yep, meant NYC. But I seriously doubt you can wet your dipstick for $40 anywhere in America. Where are those promised lands?
Mr Enternational
11-30-21, 06:15
Yep, meant NYC. But I seriously doubt you can wet your dipstick for $40 anywhere in America. Where are those promised lands?I am from Atlanta.
Yep, meant NYC. But I seriously doubt you can wet your dipstick for $40 anywhere in America. Where are those promised lands?$40???!!! Trust me you'd have to have a strong heart to look at them.
First, I'd like to say that many of the regular contributors to this forum helped.It seems we have a different understanding of what he meant. I added the word generalization because I know he wasn't talking about every chica in Bailey. I don't think he's been with every chica in there. But who knows knowing him.
It seems you added the words "all SWs" and "bottom of the barrel". It's seems you think he means literally every chica? While you in the DR have you ever experience anything other than a Sosua SW? GFE Generally means the experience she gave you was like being with a real girlfriend. Not just good service.
Some of our brothers get to Sue and think it doesn't get better than the Accessible SWs. There's nothing wrong with that until you start speaking with brothers who understand the Sue is just a P4 P convenience store and GFE is not to be expected. Many of us understand that what we're getting is conveniency and not necessarily quality but we're cool with that.
I like your energy and the way you making things work for you. I hope you continue to share your experiences. I'll just give you a friendly warning from A person that's been going there for a while. Once you start experiencing driving a Lexus when you were use to driving Hyundai; The experience becomes addictive. Those penny slot machines at the Union Hall are rarely worth the investment. The way you are finessing in the game; I predict your time will be coming quicker than the average.
I have a home in Atl and have visited quite a few of the establishments there and prior to discovering the DR. I visited clubs all over the US. In every place I went 100 was opening bid and in most cases was not enough. The crack Hos were asking 40 and I was not a buyer. This was 20 plus years ago and I doubt the prices have gone down. ATl has some nice clubs 100 bucks for drinks and lap dances takes about.
An hour. 40 dollars would get you laughed at. I think Mr E is in an alternate reality.
It seems we have a different understanding of what he meant. I added the word generalization because I know he wasn't talking about every chica in Bailey. I don't think he's been with every chica in there. But who knows knowing him.
It seems you added the words "all SWs" and "bottom of the barrel". It's seems you think he means literally every chica? While you in the DR have you ever experience anything other than a Sosua SW? GFE Generally means the experience she gave you was like being with a real girlfriend. Not just good service.
Some of our brothers get to Sue and think it doesn't get better than the Accessible SWs. There's nothing wrong with that until you start speaking with brothers who understand the Sue is just a P4 P convenience store and GFE is not to be expected. Many of us understand that what we're getting is conveniency and not necessarily quality but we're cool with that.
I like your energy and the way you making things work for you. I hope you continue to share your experiences. I'll just give you a friendly warning from A person that's been going there for a while. Once you start experiencing driving a Lexus when you were use to driving Hyundai; The experience becomes addictive. Those penny slot machines at the Union Hall are rarely worth the investment. The way you are finessing in the game; I predict your time will be coming quicker than the average.Thanks for the tips and insight. I agree with your car analogy. Nearly all of the girls I was with on the trip were street girls, and I had a blast with all of them. But, I certainly understand what you mean by getting something more. That happened to me on a local bus near Punta Cana (I was all over the island on this trip, staying 3-4 days in one location before moving on). I approached a Haitian girl on the bus, sitting next to her and using the pick up line of, "You have very exotic eyes. " Her Spanish was okay, and I didn't speak any French, but we made it work. She was just a regular girl coming home from work. It's funny, a line like that will work down there in the tropics, but if I did that on a bus up in the States, the girl would think I was some kind of serial killer, ha. Anyway, I invited her to dinner that evening down at Cat's Corners. After that, it was full GFE for the rest of my time in the area. I know everyone has their preferences, and for me, the DR really was a great fit. I enjoyed every day there.
... if I did that on a bus up in the States, the girl would think I was some kind of serial killer, ha. ....Not if you tell her your new Porsche is in the shop.
Durandpaul
12-03-21, 08:07
I have a home in Atl and have visited quite a few of the establishments there and prior to discovering the DR. I visited clubs all over the US. In every place I went 100 was opening bid and in most cases was not enough. The crack Hos were asking 40 and I was not a buyer. This was 20 plus years ago and I doubt the prices have gone down. ATl has some nice clubs 100 bucks for drinks and lap dances takes about.
An hour. 40 dollars would get you laughed at. I think Mr E is in an alternate reality.In the US you have to stick with regulars. In Atlanta, Chicago, Houston, and Dallas you can easily get a nice girl for 80.15 min.
I have a friend who lives in Atlanta. He used to take me to this club named follies before covid19 where you can bang a nice stripper for $120.
But I don't recommend paying for pussy in the US. The chances to run into girls with bad attitude or girls who smell like fish is very high.
And usually there is no foreplay for quickies.
I've been to Cabarete / Sousa twice. 10 yrs and 5 yrs ago.
Booked my flight for Dec 25-30.
Staying in Cabarete.
Any other mongers traveling Christmas week?
I'm hoping it's still as good as it was my previous 2 visits.
Both times I was married.
Now I'm divorced so looking for some GFE companionship.
10 yrs ago $100 would get you an all-nighter.
5 yrs ago $100 was for a couple hours or $60 for an hour.
How open are the Sousa ladies to BBJCIM?
Now I'm divorced so looking for some GFE companionship.
You're not going to find GFE in Sosua. The best you can find is paying someone by the hour, or by the day which would add up quickly.
Sosua women (or rather DR women who travel to Sosua for money) have kids, boyfriends, sponsors, and husbands, and are quick to go back on the phone to entertain them and are only about the money. I took a woman out for free breakfast and she couldn't get off her phone. I took another one for a night and she couldn't get off her phone.
Lesson learned, I take DR women by the hour, get my service, and wish them well upon departure. You want GFE, go to Thailand. They will cook, clean, speak perfect English, show you around, and give you an actual GFE.
You're not going to find GFE in Sosua. The best you can find is paying someone by the hour, or by the day which would add up quickly.
Sosua women (or rather DR women who travel to Sosua for money) have kids, boyfriends, sponsors, and husbands, and are quick to go back on the phone to entertain them and are only about the money. I took a woman out for free breakfast and she couldn't get off her phone. I took another one for a night and she couldn't get off her phone.
Lesson learned, I take DR women by the hour, get my service, and wish them well upon departure. You want GFE, go to Thailand. They will cook, clean, speak perfect English, show you around, and give you an actual GFE.Thanks for the heads up.
Perhaps I'll try to connect with a couple ladies in bumble ahead of time.
GFE for me would be getting BBJCIM and possibly BBFS.
Thailand trip will be in a couple years.
Tempoecorto
12-05-21, 05:12
I should be there that week but in Sosua. There are lot of doom and gloom prognosticators here but IMHO, the DR is still a great place, more so if you know how to navigate.
I do not know what you did the last two times, as you were "accompanied", but the specific request like yours is unlikely to be fulfilled if you pick up women off the streets as many do, in Sosua. Cabarete and I might be wrong, might be a little more high brow compared to Sosua and so I would not know. I would strongly recommend "BlackBeards" near Puerto Plata, which a) is a one stop shop and b) you might get lucky with your fetish. You can read up about them in this forum.
Good Luck!
I've been to Cabarete / Sousa twice. 10 yrs and 5 yrs ago.
Booked my flight for Dec 25-30.
Staying in Cabarete.
Any other mongers traveling Christmas week?
I'm hoping it's still as good as it was my previous 2 visits.
Both times I was married.
Now I'm divorced so looking for some GFE companionship.
10 yrs ago $100 would get you an all-nighter.
5 yrs ago $100 was for a couple hours or $60 for an hour.
How open are the Sousa ladies to BBJCIM?
You're not going to find GFE in Sosua. The best you can find is paying someone by the hour, or by the day which would add up quickly.
Sosua women (or rather DR women who travel to Sosua for money) have kids, boyfriends, sponsors, and husbands, and are quick to go back on the phone to entertain them and are only about the money. I took a woman out for free breakfast and she couldn't get off her phone. I took another one for a night and she couldn't get off her phone.
Lesson learned, I take DR women by the hour, get my service, and wish them well upon departure. You want GFE, go to Thailand. They will cook, clean, speak perfect English, show you around, and give you an actual GFE.I always post the same advice for pick ups in Sosua.
Buy them a coke, coffee, water or beer at the nearest patio. For the price of a drink, you are in control.
You can tell a million things about a chica in fifteen minutes. Hygiene, attention span, phone addiction, attitude, etc.
If she's too busy, or pre occupied for that, move on.
Saves a lot of surprises and disappointments.
I always post the same advice for pick ups in Sosua.
Buy them a coke, coffee, water or beer at the nearest patio. For the price of a drink, you are in control.
You can tell a million things about a chica in fifteen minutes. Hygiene, attention span, phone addiction, attitude, etc.
If she's too busy, or pre occupied for that, move on.
Saves a lot of surprises and disappointments.Absolutely nothing wrong with that strategy.
Did 5 days in Sosua had great time. Trip was about sex. Started off running into my Sunday girl on Saturday. Good sex last trip repeat. We catch a meal at Bailees. She has a friend sat with us for bit. CALLS me saying her friend wants to join us for 2000 pesos. Happy hour is on.
The sex with both was great. It was alittle competition with girls trying to please me. One was sucking my dick while. I vibrated and fingered her friend. I slipped a finger in ass and she exploded It was me and my vibrator verses the 2 girls. GREAT time.
5000 pesos total. In all I did 7 girls in 4 days. My last girl a pretty Haitian. She came so hard she passed out. All the girls but 1 were outstanding. I did not or go out much. Just Bailees and rack time. I used all my lechee to good effect. Added 3 new outstanding girls to the team. I wish I gad video was hardcore porn.
ChuchoLoco
12-08-21, 21:28
I always post the same advice for pick ups in Sosua.
Buy them a coke, coffee, water or beer at the nearest patio. For the price of a drink, you are in control.
You can tell a million things about a chica in fifteen minutes. Hygiene, attention span, phone addiction, attitude, etc.
If she's too busy, or pre occupied for that, move on.
Saves a lot of surprises and disappointments.That has to be some of the best advice I've seen posted on any forum if not the best. I will change to this from buying a meal to find out.
Did 5 days in Sosua had great time. Trip was about sex. Started off running into my Sunday girl on Saturday. Good sex last trip repeat. We catch a meal at Bailees. She has a friend sat with us for bit. CALLS me saying her friend wants to join us for 2000 pesos. Happy hour is on.
The sex with both was great. It was alittle competition with girls trying to please me. One was sucking my dick while. I vibrated and fingered her friend. I slipped a finger in ass and she exploded It was me and my vibrator verses the 2 girls. GREAT time.
5000 pesos total. In all I did 7 girls in 4 days. My last girl a pretty Haitian. She came so hard she passed out. All the girls but 1 were outstanding. I did not or go out much. Just Bailees and rack time. I used all my lechee to good effect. Added 3 new outstanding girls to the team. I wish I gad video was hardcore porn.Sounds like you had a good time. LOL.
I like a little GFE in my sex. Some girls are all about the quick dollar. So a little vetting can help spot them. On the phone distracted are signs you may not have a fit. Last trip I picked up a young girl who looked a little off. She was cute and I wanted something different. She flashed the not wearing panties card and I was hooked. I think she was a bit strung out. Drank my whiskey like a sailer and smoked a bit. She was not very good in bed. I ignored the no go signs.
I always post the same advice for pick ups in Sosua.
Buy them a coke, coffee, water or beer at the nearest patio. For the price of a drink, you are in control.
You can tell a million things about a chica in fifteen minutes. Hygiene, attention span, phone addiction, attitude, etc.
If she's too busy, or pre occupied for that, move on.
Saves a lot of surprises and disappointments.
I always post the same advice for pick ups in Sosua.
Buy them a coke, coffee, water or beer at the nearest patio. For the price of a drink, you are in control.
You can tell a million things about a chica in fifteen minutes. Hygiene, attention span, phone addiction, attitude, etc.
If she's too busy, or pre occupied for that, move on.
Saves a lot of surprises and disappointments.That's good advice and only costs me a couple dollars.
For the price of a presidente and 15 min conversation I will get a good vibe.
Did 5 days in Sosua had great time. Trip was about sex. Started off running into my Sunday girl on Saturday. Good sex last trip repeat. We catch a meal at Bailees. She has a friend sat with us for bit. CALLS me saying her friend wants to join us for 2000 pesos. Happy hour is on.
The sex with both was great. It was alittle competition with girls trying to please me. One was sucking my dick while. I vibrated and fingered her friend. I slipped a finger in ass and she exploded It was me and my vibrator verses the 2 girls. GREAT time.
5000 pesos total. In all I did 7 girls in 4 days. My last girl a pretty Haitian. She came so hard she passed out. All the girls but 1 were outstanding. I did not or go out much. Just Bailees and rack time. I used all my lechee to good effect. Added 3 new outstanding girls to the team. I wish I gad video was hardcore porn.Was BBJCIM or bags available?
I like a little GFE in my sex. Some girls are all about the quick dollar. So a little vetting can help spot them. On the phone distracted are signs you may not have a fit. Last trip I picked up a young girl who looked a little off. She was cute and I wanted something different. She flashed the not wearing panties card and I was hooked. I think she was a bit strung out. Drank my whiskey like a sailer and smoked a bit. She was not very good in bed. I ignored the no go signs.Good for you, but my advice was in response to a complaint, one of many on this forum, about a chica's attitude once you get her back into.
Your pad.
You obviously don't need the advice!
It's all good!
I'm so eager to go but have near zero Spanish. 65 average looking white guy. Would I need a Spanish speaking wingman?
Get Google translate on your phone. You will be fine.
I'm so eager to go but have near zero Spanish. 65 average looking white guy. Would I need a Spanish speaking wingman?
Mr Enternational
12-10-21, 19:39
She has a friend sat with us for bit. CALLS me saying her friend wants to join us for 2000 pesos. Happy hour is on.
The sex with both was great. It was alittle competition with girls trying to please me. One was sucking my dick while. I vibrated and fingered her friend. I slipped a finger in ass and she exploded It was me and my vibrator verses the 2 girls. GREAT time. 5000 pesos total. Added 3 new outstanding girls to the team. I know that had to be a blast!
Last Saturday while sitting in Baillees 5 Black ladies were sitting in the spot. Average age about 40. On ascale of 1 to 10 if you combined their score you would get a 9. They were probably staying at a Puerto Plata resort. When I tell you these chicks were ugly. It was amaziing their bodies were terrible fat out of shape no tone. On top of of all of this they acted like they were queen bees. Their atitudes were as ugly as their faces. They had acouple of guys with their group. It was sad how f up these ladies were. They were spying us mackin gorgeous dominican chicas. Seeing them reminded of why the DR is requirement in my life.
Last Saturday while sitting in Baillees 5 Black ladies were sitting in the spot. Average age about 40. On ascale of 1 to 10 if you combined their score you would get a 9. They were probably staying at a Puerto Plata resort. When I tell you these chicks were ugly. It was amaziing their bodies were terrible fat out of shape no tone. On top of of all of this they acted like they were queen bees. Their atitudes were as ugly as their faces. They had acouple of guys with their group. It was sad how f up these ladies were. They were spying us mackin gorgeous Dominican chicas. Seeing them reminded of why the DR is requirement in my life.I saw a video with the same girls in Baileys, they were high diving having a good time. It's sad. Either they are there to let the brothers know they can't run or they are there to scout and figure out how to make money off the big spenders. They aren't there for pussy Even though they might be gay. They bring their own pussy.
Respectfully speaking but old kool, you are a vet so stop going to the newbie spots. Hangout in Cabarette or Puerto Plata and write your own script. Dudes have over paid so much in Sosua that the girls no longer have respect for the free spenders.
Last Saturday while sitting in Baillees 5 Black ladies were sitting in the spot. Average age about 40. On ascale of 1 to 10 if you combined their score you would get a 9. They were probably staying at a Puerto Plata resort. When I tell you these chicks were ugly. It was amaziing their bodies were terrible fat out of shape no tone. On top of of all of this they acted like they were queen bees. Their atitudes were as ugly as their faces. They had acouple of guys with their group. It was sad how f up these ladies were. They were spying us mackin gorgeous dominican chicas. Seeing them reminded of why the DR is requirement in my life.Over the years I have seen women coming to Sosua for male companionship although focused on locals. Many used to be from Europe. Now that covid has restricted those women maybe these ladies wants to try their luck. Baillees is the wrong place for them or maybe they are hoping to hook up with foreigners. Ugly or not pussy is a pussy. I have had some amazing encounters with ugly girls although my target age is 18 to 25. Couple of my ugly girls in Philippines were virgins. Maybe they were even repulsed by barangay boys. But for me as a casual visitor it did not matter. They were extremely friendly and appreciative.
I have been all over the Island. I do not have time to chase down and court non pros. I am looking for P4 P action. No where on the Island can compare to Sosua for P4 P. Bailles is the 1st place new action to Sosua goes The quality is very good. If you do not go there you would not know this. Not to mention the food there is decent. On my last trip I met 3 new girls who gave awesome service. Some of the best sex I had on my hobby. Respect is earned not given. The way you treat people plays a direct relationship to how they treat you. I was paying 3000 to 3500 pesos for most sessions. For you that may be over paying but for me it is a bargain. Without going into details my sessions are quite involved (porn quality) Sosua is providing everything I need to satisfy my advanced desires. The girls in Sosua are constantly being recyled Guys who do not go there do not see or expericnce these things. The variety in Sosua is compelling. You can fine girls for 1000 pesos or as much as 200 dollars. It is a buyers market. My preference is attractive girls who have some personality. Sosua provides me all I can handle when I sport fuck. I have a half dozen regulars who give me great GFE when I want it. I have been doing this for over 10 years and know what floats my boat and where to find it. Everyone has their own taste. Black Beards, Boca Chica and SD Casas are total turnoffs to me while go to spots for some in the hobby. I have seen some of the girls in your ioop. (not my type) But I bet they give you great service. For me it is about looks ,performance and atitude.
I saw a video with the same girls in Baileys, they were high diving having a good time. It's sad. Either they are there to let the brothers know they can't run or they are there to scout and figure out how to make money off the big spenders. They aren't there for pussy Even though they might be gay. They bring their own pussy.
Respectfully speaking but old kool, you are a vet so stop going to the newbie spots. Hangout in Cabarette or Puerto Plata and write your own script. Dudes have over paid so much in Sosua that the girls no longer have respect for the free spenders.
I have been all over the Island. I do not have time to chase down and court non pros. I am looking for P4 P action. No where on the Island can compare to Sosua for P4 P. Bailles is the 1st place new action to Sosua goes The quality is very good. If you do not go there you would not know this. Not to mention the food there is decent. On my last trip I met 3 new girls who gave awesome service. Some of the best sex I had on my hobby. Respect is earned not given. The way you treat people plays a direct relationship to how they treat you. I was paying 3000 to 3500 pesos for most sessions. For you that may be over paying but for me it is a bargain. Without going into details my sessions are quite involved (porn quality) Sosua is providing everything I need to satisfy my advanced desires. The girls in Sosua are constantly being recyled Guys who do not go there do not see or expericnce these things. The variety in Sosua is compelling. You can fine girls for 1000 pesos or as much as 200 dollars. It is a buyers market. My preference is attractive girls who have some personality. Sosua provides me all I can handle when I sport fuck. I have a half dozen regulars who give me great GFE when I want it. I have been doing this for over 10 years and know what floats my boat and where to find it. Everyone has their own taste. Black Beards, Boca Chica and SD Casas are total turnoffs to me while go to spots for some in the hobby. I have seen some of the girls in your ioop. (not my type) But I bet they give you great service. For me it is about looks ,performance and atitude.My type? If you mean I don't overpay for a pretty face, yeah that's my type. In my ten plus years I've learned Spanish, and branched out. I've had girls that have never been with an American, I've fucked in the campo with girls that look like Indians, I've had 35 year old women with pizazz. And most didn't involve paying for sex but I'm generous in other ways. Just want to clear up the confusion because for someone I've never met you seem to have limited me to one type.
As long as she is clean, respectful, attentive, grateful, not overweight, maybe 28-38 yo, and is trying to do more with her life besides selling pussy on the street, she is my type.
New to this forum. I've been on the USA version of this for many years. Planning my first trip here. Super excited. Reading up on everything.
My question might be more complicated. I'll be with my significant other but she's cool and allows me to "adventure" on my own. What are my options for daytime spots if I get an hour or two in the afternoons? Are there options for that knowing that my hotel room won't be an option? Thanks in advance for the help. Massage parlors? Or do any of the places listed in previous posts have rooms as well? Thanks in advance!
New to this forum. I've been on the USA version of this for many years. Planning my first trip here. Super excited. Reading up on everything.
My question might be more complicated. I'll be with my significant other but she's cool and allows me to "adventure" on my own. What are my options for daytime spots if I get an hour or two in the afternoons? Are there options for that knowing that my hotel room won't be an option? Thanks in advance for the help. Massage parlors? Or do any of the places listed in previous posts have rooms as well? Thanks in advance!Well there are several short stay hotels down town. I recommend Hotel Central they will clip you about 400 pesos for. Well come to think of it I really don't know how long- but certainly a couple hours. There is a love motel which is a quick jaunt away called dulce secretos or just Secretos. You will need to take a moto or a cab- can't remember the exact price but like 800 peso for 4 hours. It is air conditioned and there is a little lazy Susan system where they will pass you drinks, snacks, condoms, lube. There is usually a hot tub and other shit. Highly recommended but if you have a chance. Go first. Get the room. Turn on the AC. Then go get the girl (s) and bring her. If you go out to Amvee or the other place out that way. The fellas will let you know what to do- if you have scoped some Hi tone trim- go for secretos- if you are just yanking one off the corner go for Central. Actually there AR legit hotels that are chica friendly for like $50 a day maybe $60 this year.
TravelingMan3
12-12-21, 04:32
New to this forum. I've been on the USA version of this for many years. Planning my first trip here. Super excited. Reading up on everything.
My question might be more complicated. I'll be with my significant other but she's cool and allows me to "adventure" on my own. What are my options for daytime spots if I get an hour or two in the afternoons? Are there options for that knowing that my hotel room won't be an option? Thanks in advance for the help. Massage parlors? Or do any of the places listed in previous posts have rooms as well? Thanks in advance!For daytime early afternoon action I recommend bailees it's a restaurant that has freelancers sitting around. You can take them to dulce secreto which is a short time hotel or bar central and use the rooms there the girls will know where to go.
New to this forum. I've been on the USA version of this for many years. Planning my first trip here. Super excited. Reading up on everything.
My question might be more complicated. I'll be with my significant other but she's cool and allows me to "adventure" on my own. What are my options for daytime spots if I get an hour or two in the afternoons? Are there options for that knowing that my hotel room won't be an option? Thanks in advance for the help. Massage parlors? Or do any of the places listed in previous posts have rooms as well? Thanks in advance!First of all you need to rent a car which gives you freedom to go from probably all inclusive resort where you are staying. After that you can drive to Sosua for daytime action. You will not find daytime action anywhere else. There are many ST hotels around.
There are streetwalkers, girls walking aimlessly on the beach. Talk to them and negotiate for an hour of fun. They know all locations of ST hotels. Leave all the valuables in your room and only carry enough local currency for that day. Not sure if ST hotels have safe deposit box.
Even if you carry a phone lock it up in your car.
Cover yourself up because you do not want to transmit germs to your GF.
Daytime girls tend to be not attractive.
....Ugly or not pussy is a pussy. I have had some amazing encounters with ugly girls although my target age is 18 to 25. Couple of my ugly girls in Philippines were virgins. Maybe they were even repulsed by barangay boys. But for me as a casual visitor it did not matter. They were extremely friendly and appreciative.At last some honesty on this board. I don't know why guys are afraid to admit that sometimes they bang uglies. I do sometimes especially now that I don't travel. Unattractiveness is no problem for the virile man.
At last some honesty on this board. I don't know why guys are afraid to admit that sometimes they bang uglies. I do sometimes especially now that I don't travel. Unattractiveness is no problem for the virile man.I banged a few uglies and fatties a long, long time ago in my past. But since becoming a monger, no way no how! I don't see the point in doing that. If I'm paying up, then I'm not going with a "fugly". Not about to happen hombre. Not going to happen! More power to you if you're down, but this here monger definitely is not! I will never, ever again be seen with an unattractive woman. I don't have to LOL!
Alex Deuce
12-13-21, 00:26
At last some honesty on this board. I don't know why guys are afraid to admit that sometimes they bang uglies. I do sometimes especially now that I don't travel. Unattractiveness is no problem for the virile man.No problem admitting it but there always was something that attracted me. Either it was a phat ass, crazy brick house shape, tittays or she talked so much shit to me I had to bang it out. I don't know anyone that's banging aunt ester while down in the DR especially in Sousa simply because they were the only option.
The young girls seem to get most of the attension. However on my most recent trips I have hooked up with some 30 yrear olds who have rocked my world. They seem to enjoy the sex and no complication. If you find a good one they can make your trip. Often they are ex working girls coming back to make some quick cash. The streets are for the young girls. The 30 and up girls do not like competing with the young girls but generaly have more skills. When they come back in the game they have somethng to prove. Trust me if performance is a priority they bring it.
The young girls seem to get most of the attension. However on my most recent trips I have hooked up with some 30 yrear olds who have rocked my world. They seem to enjoy the sex and no complication. If you find a good one they can make your trip. Often they are ex working girls coming back to make some quick cash. The streets are for the young girls. The 30 and up girls do not like competing with the young girls but generaly have more skills. When they come back in the game they have somethng to prove. Trust me if performance is a priority they bring it.Couldn't agree more. My last time in Sosua I hooked up with a 30+ yo non-pro. Was a highlight of the whole trip.
Oneminuteboy
12-14-21, 23:09
The young girls seem to get most of the attension. However on my most recent trips I have hooked up with some 30 yrear olds who have rocked my world. They seem to enjoy the sex and no complication. If you find a good one they can make your trip. Often they are ex working girls coming back to make some quick cash. The streets are for the young girls. The 30 and up girls do not like competing with the young girls but generaly have more skills. When they come back in the game they have somethng to prove. Trust me if performance is a priority they bring it.What the most common way to get them? Specific spots or dating apps?
The young girls seem to get most of the attension. However on my most recent trips I have hooked up with some 30 yrear olds who have rocked my world. They seem to enjoy the sex and no complication. If you find a good one they can make your trip. Often they are ex working girls coming back to make some quick cash. The streets are for the young girls. The 30 and up girls do not like competing with the young girls but generaly have more skills. When they come back in the game they have somethng to prove. Trust me if performance is a priority they bring it.Last time I was there I met a 27 year old (checked her cedula) because she looked young. We had great times together for three nights. She said she is from Santiago on the way to a new job in one of the resorts on north coast. We were screwing like jack rabbits many times a day. In the evening dinner and hitting the clubs and dancing. We had bareback sex most of the time after first day. Even after that she had one more night she could stay but Stupid me wanted a different girl so I dropped her at the bus station. Met a young girl that evening but she had an attitude.
There plenty of winers to be had. When you find a keeper you need hang in there with them but Sosua is the worst place in the world to try to stay with one women. You could have a solid 10 screwing your brains out and you will still look for something else. I am learning quality trumps quantity. Since I started focusing more on performance my trips have been much better. Repeat sex is always better. There is nothing wrong banging in bunches but the sex gets better with girls you have repore with. I hope you got her number because I know you miss that good pussy.
Last time I was there I met a 27 year old (checked her cedula) because she looked young. We had great times together for three nights. She said she is from Santiago on the way to a new job in one of the resorts on north coast. We were screwing like jack rabbits many times a day. In the evening dinner and hitting the clubs and dancing. We had bareback sex most of the time after first day. Even after that she had one more night she could stay but Stupid me wanted a different girl so I dropped her at the bus station. Met a young girl that evening but she had an attitude.
Last time I was there I met a 27 year old (checked her cedula) because she looked young. We had great times together for three nights. She said she is from Santiago on the way to a new job in one of the resorts on north coast. We were screwing like jack rabbits many times a day. In the evening dinner and hitting the clubs and dancing. We had bareback sex most of the time after first day. Even after that she had one more night she could stay but Stupid me wanted a different girl so I dropped her at the bus station. Met a young girl that evening but she had an attitude.Damn dog! At least you are honest with the board but you should have rode that out and at a minimum kept the friendship for future reference. Those are gems but sometimes we think we can do better when it is already great. Chics like that are a rare breed nowadays, with the internet exposing everything girls are hip to hustling tourists. You had a throwback girl and blew it. But we live and learn and next time you will be a smarter man and have some of the best times.
Jiggaman69
12-15-21, 07:15
US monger here, I agree with the German gentleman. Well the reason why we think it is a paradise is because the US hobby sucks, especially right now, many of the US girls want deposit, personal info / pics for screening, and the rates are too damn high. $450/ HR on average now.
I am planning my trip in 2022, Tijuana is my first stop, already got my game plan ready. What is the best time to go to DR? Jan / Feb Good??
I read a lot of forums on ISG. I feel like DR is probably the most confusing place ever. Am I the only one? One guy will say Sosua is terrible and expensive, right after a guy will post the greatest time ever with GFE and multi hour sessions for only 3000 dops. I am so confused at this point I don't even know where to go, Sosua or PC, SD. Every region has its pros and cons, but DR seems like the more money you can spend the more you can get. Also I can't seem to find any agencies or listing websites. I can't believe the menu is also lacking, No DATY / BBBJ's CIM is impossible. The only ladies I can find so far are the ones walking up and down the beach, and the ones in these bars / clubs. I wish they had more reliable agencies like Tijuana. Covid only made this even worse. Can someone please give me some ideas, usually there are local guides on forums, who can provide girls and info. I am kinda lost.
Durandpaul
12-16-21, 05:53
I can't believe the menu is also lacking, No DATY / BBBJ's CIM is impossible. The only ladies I can find so far are the ones walking up and down the beach, and the ones in these bars / clubs. I wish they had more reliable agencies like Tijuana. Covid only made this even worse. Can someone please give me some ideas, usually there are local guides on forums, who can provide girls and info. I am kinda lost.If BBJ CIM is a must for you don't go to sosua.
If you don't mind going on a 60 hours round trip (2. 5 days) plus hours flight then go to thailand. Note your flight to thailand could cost you 700 usd more minimum. Meaning you will spemd $70 more a day on 10 days trip.
If you don't like to negotiate prices then don't go to sosua. Sosua girls will do anything to extract more money from you. If you let them have their way you will overpay.
The issue with sosua is many people haven't moved on from the old sosua. There is a new crowd less experienced who tend to spend more than the veterans. About 4 years ago I knew I could fuck and afford any girl in sosua. Now I will say 5% of girls probably wants more than what I feel I should pay. But time has changed people have to adapt.
Sosua reminds me of new money vs old money. Old money always feel like they to make themselves think they are on another level. Sosua is for the newbie not worthy of a veterans. At the end the day is what work for you. Some us value our time that sosua is the most convient destination. Hotels are cheap, good food, no need to take a taxi, everything is within 5 min distance. You will get buy with english.
Prices are around 50 to 60 usd at bailes for 95 % of the girls for 1 hour. I heard people are paying the same prices in columbia in bars that cater to Gringos. But then someone will say I pay 30 usd for GFE or I got a girl that come clean my house and I fuck her anytime I want. What you will never seen are pictures of those girls. If distance is your deciding factor to where you to then columbia is your other option. I have never been there but all the research I have done make to believe than sosua prices arent different than all the other gringo spots in columbia.
Mr Enternational
12-16-21, 08:44
The issue with sosua is many people haven't moved on from the old sosua.Definitely this. Remembering how Sosua was when I first started going there and how Sosua is now, I would rather stay home and jack off. There were tons of beautiful women for 1000 pesos all night and there were none of the bullshit games. My buddy did get his camera stolen by a chick back then though. But the quality and service has gone way down and the price has gone way up.
Prices are around 50 to 60 usd at bailes for 95 % of the girls for 1 hour. I heard people are paying the same prices in columbia in bars that cater to Gringos.Can't at all compare what is going on at Bailees to Colombia. You can not even compare Sosua to Punta Cana to Boca Chica to Santo Domingo. Colombia is a big country with tons of mongering options and only 3 bars that cater to foreigners. 2 in Cartagena (Space and Dulce) and 1 in Medellin (Gustos). Of course you are going to get fucked in not a good way in those. There is absolutely no reason to step into one of those foreigner rip off places in Colombia unless you prefer being ripped off alongside other foreigners. You can go to the tons of other places where locals go and pay local prices or you can get online and order up chicks. There is no good reason to go to the 3 places that gringos hang and get fleeced when there are 10,000 other options.
But then someone will say I pay 30 usd for GFE or I got a girl that come clean my house and I fuck her anytime I want. What you will never seen are pictures of those girls.Heck. This is just one website https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/bogota/ You can see for yourself how the chicks look and that some are even advertising on it for $18 for 1 hour. When was the last time you even came close to fucking a chick in Sosua for $18? You are getting excited over $60 at Bailees when the average working Dominican makes only twice that for an entire month.
What you never see is pictures of all these knock out chicks that blew somebody's mind in Sosua. Old Kool has been raving about the place for 30 years, but not one picture of any of these stunners. People that have been to both places know what the real deal is and don't need the pictures. But look on the website and decide for yourself.
Here are a few pics from the Old Sosua circa 2010 before all the chicks were ghettofied con artists.
We got a poster here who's racked up 12,000 plus posts to ISG, as long as I can remember he has been knocking Sosua, as a shithole, and today he says he'd rather stay home and jerk off than come here.
I would imagine at least half his posts are devoted to dissing Sosua, and promoting PI, Thai, Col. And Brazil.
How many times can you say I hate a place I don't visit? What's the point?
In the meantime Sosua is filling up fast, and even regulars are finding it hard to nail down a reservation at their favorite accommodations.
My place, a condo rental building is usually half full but a regular buddy here just got bumped out by the owner of the unit he rents, and nothing else was available in the building, so he had to move. Prices are up, and new bars are opening all over town.
The thousands who come here every year, don't seem to have a problem.
The party goes on!
C'mon. Down, and see for yourself!
LOL.
I thought it was just me. I try not to respond but dam he makes it hard. Some Sosua chick must have pissed in his corn flakes. No doubt Sosua is not what it once was but you have a few hundred girls waiting to fuck for 50 bucks is a beautiful thing. I have been to Sosua about 7 time this year and have had some of the best sessions since I have been going. I flew out Newark 350 round trip Jet Blue. Booked a nice appartment next to Super Polo for 37 a night. Mr E is right about 1 thing 1000 peso / $18 pussy is dead but so is penny candy. The women in Bailles were well dressed and well behaved. On weekends 30 to 40 girls churning all day. On average the girls are 7's and up. The less attractive girls can not afford a meal so they stay out of bailees. I have experienced no negative attitudes from the girls. Some will ask for 100 US but will drop to 3000 pesos in the blink of an eye. It is a buyers market. Every week new girls come from all over the Island. My last 2 trips I did not do any night life. I actually have fun with the girls. Play music, dance shower massage and sex. If things go well maybe repeat later. Oak you are right Sosua is very vibrant. New things are opening all over and some of the accomodations are 5 star. I am not sure what I am donig wrong have a great time in Sosua. The reason I love Sosua is it has what I like. Beautiful brown women , lovely beaches, decent food and like minded guys to chill with. I can afford to go anywhere I want.
We got a poster here who's racked up 12,000 plus posts to ISG, as long as I can remember he has been knocking Sosua, as a shithole, and today he says he'd rather stay home and jerk off than come here.
I would imagine at least half his posts are devoted to dissing Sosua, and promoting PI, Thai, Col. And Brazil.
How many times can you say I hate a place I don't visit? What's the point?
In the meantime Sosua is filling up fast, and even regulars are finding it hard to nail down a reservation at their favorite accommodations.
My place, a condo rental building is usually half full but a regular buddy here just got bumped out by the owner of the unit he rents, and nothing else was available in the building, so he had to move. Prices are up, and new bars are opening all over town.
The thousands who come here every year, don't seem to have a problem.
The party goes on!
C'mon. Down, and see for yourself!
LOL.
I thought it was just me. I try not to respond but damn he makes it hard.He says a lot of provocative things (all over the site) that often warrant a response and / or challenge.
I thought it was just me. I try not to respond but dam he makes it hard. Some Sosua chick must have pissed in his corn flakes. No doubt Sosua is not what it once was but you have a few hundred girls waiting to fuck for 50 bucks is a beautiful thing. I have been to Sosua about 7 time this year and have had some of the best sessions since I have been going. I flew out Newark 350 round trip Jet Blue. Booked a nice appartment next to Super Polo for 37 a night. Mr E is right about 1 thing 1000 peso / $18 pussy is dead but so is penny candy. The women in Bailles were well dressed and well behaved. On weekends 30 to 40 girls churning all day. On average the girls are 7's and up. The less attractive girls can not afford a meal so they stay out of bailees. I have experienced no negative attitudes from the girls. Some will ask for 100 US but will drop to 3000 pesos in the blink of an eye. It is a buyers market. Every week new girls come from all over the Island. My last 2 trips I did not do any night life. I actually have fun with the girls. Play music, dance shower massage and sex. If things go well maybe repeat later. Oak you are right Sosua is very vibrant. New things are opening all over and some of the accomodations are 5 star. I am not sure what I am donig wrong have a great time in Sosua. The reason I love Sosua is it has what I like. Beautiful brown women , lovely beaches, decent food and like minded guys to chill with. I can afford to go anywhere I want.You could be right!
In 12 years I have had 2 "friends" come down here, and through their own stupidity, and ego, not taking advice, they managed to get ripped off.
I call it getting outsmarted, by a low life street hooker, and the egos were hurt, bad. One left halfway through his week and the other one is still badmouthing the place back home, 3 years later.
The others who come to visit me are still coming back for more!
LOL.
Durandpaul
12-17-21, 08:33
Can't at all compare what is going on at Bailees to Colombia. You can not even compare Sosua to Punta Cana to Boca Chica to Santo Domingo. Colombia is a big country with tons of mongering options and only 3 bars that cater to foreigners. 2 in Cartagena (Space and Dulce) and 1 in Medellin (Gustos). Of course you are going to get fucked in not a good way in those. There is absolutely no reason to step into one of those foreigner rip off places in Colombia unless you prefer being ripped off alongside other foreigners. You can go to the tons of other places where locals go and pay local prices or you can get online and order up chicks. There is no good reason to go to the 3 places that gringos hang and get fleeced when there are 10,000 other options.I am comparing Bailes to a single location like Gustos, dolce vita or delirum. When I travel for pussy I don't travel for a cultural experience. Yes I will go to where I find the easy catch. I don't have time to sit around with working girls to debate about life or whatever. I experience the locals or the culture when I travel with whoever I am seeing in the US. If I have an 1 hour break before meetings I can just go to Bailes and find someone I like easily, fuck, and be done before my next meeting.
I have been going to Sosua for the last 10 years or so. Yes there were tonnes of beautiful girls, but even now there are still beautiful girls. Not as many but enough. Only issue is most of them are usually veterans. At the end of the day most of us can handle between 1 and 3 nut a day. No point seeing the whole village if you are just going to fuck 1 or 3 times. The issue in the past is that it was even hard to pick a girl because there was always a better one coming. Now its a lot more easier to pick no need to waste time trying to make a decission.
He says a lot of provocative things (all over the site) that often warrant a response and / or challenge.The numero uno self promoter with useful info sometimes in the mix.
Got here a week ago and these chicas are out of their freaking minds. I had one girl tell me she was giving me a discount when she quoted 125 dollars for one hour because she usually gets 150. I can definitely understand why mongers are bashing the place! It has been a daily struggle to find attractive females with a reasonable rate.
Durandpaul
12-17-21, 22:33
Got here a week ago and these chicas are out of their freaking minds. I had one girl tell me she was giving me a discount when she quoted 125 dollars for one hour because she usually gets 150. I can definitely understand why mongers are bashing the place! It has been a daily struggle to find attractive females with a reasonable rate.Beside the one girl who quoted 125 what is more helpful on this forum is how much you paid for each girl. What did the girls quote on average and how much you settle on on average. Maybe she has a bunch of western union guys and isn't willing to get pounded for 50 or 60. Things have changed girls are more conntected ever than before. Tiktok, youtube, facebook, instagram, and tinder.
Mr Enternational
12-17-21, 23:42
Got here a week ago and these chicas are out of their freaking minds. I had one girl tell me she was giving me a discount when she quoted 125 dollars for one hour because she usually gets 150. I can definitely understand why mongers are bashing the place! It has been a daily struggle to find attractive females with a reasonable rate.LOL. Buddy of mine said the other day a couple chicks told him $200 for all night but after a couple of days agreed to 2000 for 20 minutes.
Beside the one girl who quoted 125 what is more helpful on this forum is how much you paid for each girl. What did the girls quote on average and how much you settle on on average. Maybe she has a bunch of western union guys and isn't willing to get pounded for 50 or 60. Things have changed girls are more conntected ever than before. Tiktok, youtube, facebook, instagram, and tinder.I agree the girls are more connected and unified. The newer guys have more money than they have patience, less understanding of the culture and market, and more inclined to play their hip-hop Baller fantasy life. I'm not talking about the color of someone's skin, but the conduct of their actions.
We have some OG's here saying it's a buyers market? (No offense Olski) I just don't see it. Meanwhile the prices are getting higher and the quality is getting lower.
I remember when I worked in the Prison. We had a riot in a particular area. A sergeant came along and said the riot was because the inmates got out of hand and their were too many rookie officers. Being a rookie officer I was a little offended.
Three years later I'm working on a dorm for the first time and I saw how the inmates were out of hand. I asked my captain to continue to work me in that area because it needs better control. During my three days off they experience a little insurrection. They assign me and a veteran officer over the dorms. After a two week rotations; we had the area spotless and the drama down to a minimum.
My deputy warden then came to me and told me I will be the next sergeant in our institution.
I said that to say this. Not much is going to stop Sosua and the P4 P scene, however, IMO some guys conduct are unknowingly making it worse before it gets better.
Cartagena Colombia wasn't having that shit. With the influx of new mongers; that area was becoming the new Sosua fast. The code of conduct was being abused and the Country put an end to that real fast.
I also worked in correction at one time and can appreciate your story. I have banged about 50 girls this year in Sosua. I have lost count but I think I have had 8 trips. Only paid more then 3500 pesos one time. Almost all asked for 100 if approached in the evening. All but 1 accepted 3000 with little negotiation. There was one girl I had been with in the past who is one of the best lays I have ever had. I paid her a 100 and it was worth every dime. She looked like Gabriel Union and fucked like Vanessa Del Rio. I had no issues getting prices I was comfortable with and I was banging some very attractive girls. In the DR vendors always ask for twice what they are willing to accept. My 50 girls is dam good sampling and I require quality when I pickem. I had some of the best sessions I have ever had on my last trips in this past December and November. Durandpaul was 100% right when stated there were so many gorgeous girls in the past that it was tough picking just 1. It was trully over whelming. Classicos was a dream come true. Easily 20 or 30 10's every night. However you can only do 1 at a time and picking between 10's is a struggle. It is easier now because you can settle one preety girl and move on to next later. I have seen very few negatrive reports from guys who actually go to Sosua.
I agree the girls are more connected and unified. The newer guys have more money than they have patience, less understanding of the culture and market, and more inclined to play their hip-hop Baller fantasy life. I'm not talking about the color of someone's skin, but the conduct of their actions.
We have some OG's here saying it's a buyers market? (No offense Olski) I just don't see it. Meanwhile the prices are getting higher and the quality is getting lower.
I remember when I worked in the Prison. We had a riot in a particular area. A sergeant came along and said the riot was because the inmates got out of hand and their were too many rookie officers. Being a rookie officer I was a little offended.
Three years later I'm working on a dorm for the first time and I saw how the inmates were out of hand. I asked my captain to continue to work me in that area because it needs better control. During my three days off they experience a little insurrection. They assign me and a veteran officer over the dorms. After a two week rotations; we had the area spotless and the drama down to a minimum.
My deputy warden then came to me and told me I will be the next sergeant in our institution.
I said that to say this. Not much is going to stop Sosua and the P4 P scene, however, IMO some guys conduct are unknowingly making it worse before it gets better.
Cartagena Colombia wasn't having that shit. With the influx of new mongers; that area was becoming the new Sosua fast. The code of conduct was being abused and the Country put an end to that real fast.
LOL. Buddy of mine said the other day a couple chicks told him $200 for all night but after a couple of days agreed to 2000 for 20 minutes.You basically summed up the confusion we are having here. Expats have time on their side and have patience plus they shop in other spots. The weekend warrior is pressed for time and the girls see that desperate look on their face and are trained to capitalize on this. Expats know how to patronize the outer bars and spend time there to get the waitresses there on their day off for GFE, weekend warriors can't do this.
I find it hard to believe guys are going up in Baileys and getting anything below 5 k pesos for this reason. Girls talk like we do. They all see each other every day in Baileys, in the salons and walking the street. They are unionized and together. For one to offer a weekend warrior a special deal could cause problems with the pimps and the girls and jeopardize her future employment there. These street girls are cut throat. They will slice a girl messing with their money. It's more acceptable for them to offer an expat outside of Baileys a side deal.
I'm surprised your boy was offered a 20 minute deal. It shows the lack of respect they have developed for us. She comes in and takes a shower, then 5 minutes of foreplay and fuck for ten minutes. Then asks for a tip. LOL.
Got here a week ago and these chicas are out of their freaking minds. I had one girl tell me she was giving me a discount when she quoted 125 dollars for one hour because she usually gets 150. I can definitely understand why mongers are bashing the place! It has been a daily struggle to find attractive females with a reasonable rate.Problem is the previous mayor who closed down places on the main st. Including police harassment girls from everywhere stopped coming to Sosua. When restrictions are placed any mongering place goes down in value and talent. No mongering place stays the same year after year but closing nightlife establishments have negative effect.
Very rarely I do ST. Always overnight. Many a time if we click stay together more nights. Sex always gets better with familiarity and trust.
Cost has gone up all over the world. Deal with it or get out of the hobby. Cannot blame other mongers. Some splurge but they are a minority.
Durandpaul
12-18-21, 05:01
I find it hard to believe guys are going up in Baileys and getting anything below 5 k pesos for this reason.
Mr Gogo I have respect for your contribution to this site and respect your opinions. But this right here is not true. When was the last time you were in Sosua? Matter of fact no girls in Bailes will say no to 5 k for 1 hour at Bailes. Most of the girls asking for 80 or 100 usd will go for 3000 to 3500 peso. From my last trip I remember only 2 girls wanting 4000 during the day at Bailes. Yes prices are going up. Girls have a union but let not generalize things based on what someone said. Prices follow a normal distribution. Mean is 3000 peso. I have been there 3 times in the last 4 months.
Let me give you the perspective from a street girl. The girl who looks good, changes her outfits twice daily, and is always in the salon is the star. They know she is getting money and idolize her. The girl that goes with guys but is always broke, is usually cast out and ridiculed. The goal is to get a sucka that goes all in and still run her game. We see it, the western union poppi, the guy who wants to buy her a salon and the guy who pays her to stay out of Sosua.
It's a treacherous life where girls can end up with a slice across her face. Pimps are in Sosua watching and know who makes money. I'm saying they have a standard for hustling. Girls that go below the minimum don't last on the street and in Baileys.
Dominicans get the best deal followed by expats but weekend warriors are the target audience sitting in Baileys.
There are no independent girls working the streets of Sosua, they are connected somehow for protection. Those days ended many years ago when you had the local girls from La Union, Montellano and Puerto Plata, now the Santo Domingo hustlers are running shit. It's big business and the pimps are watching.
The expats know the hustle and play it accordingly. They have a glorious life fucking the same girls that weekend warriors fuck, for half the price. That's why I have always preached learn from an expat, but guys don't want to bond and learn. They think they are slicker than the game. So now we have girls going from fucking all weekend for 40 usd to hourly fucking. Today we found out they want 20 minutes. The game is fucked up.
It's now wassap groups where girls are plotting on newbies. It's really sad because guys are so thirsty they don't give a fuck. Welcome to the new world of mongering.
But it's not over yet because for a few there is good advice. State your price and not theirs and stick to it. Shop outside of spots like Baileys and known high priced spots. Look for girls that have dignity and even though they trick don't deal with rapid, overpaying tourist who spoil them. It's still fun if you know how to play it.
Mr Gogo I have respect for your contribution to this site and respect your opinions. But this right here is not true. When was the last time you were in Sosua? Matter of fact no girls in Bailes will say no to 5 k for 1 hour at Bailes. Most of the girls asking for 80 or 100 usd will go for 3000 to 3500 peso. From my last trip I remember only 2 girls wanting 4000 during the day at Bailes. Yes prices are going up. Girls have a union but let not generalize things based on what someone said. Prices follow a normal distribution. Mean is 3000 peso. I have been there 3 times in the last 4 months.It's all respect bro. I was in Sosua in October and had a ball. I hung at treehouse 2 every night. Baileys I didn't want to go in, but my boy dragged me in there. Personally I didn't like the vibe, dudes sitting around acting like they were the shit and girls looking like voltures. It was some fine girls there but they all seemed predatory. Personally I'm not an hour fucker, so that's not in the equation for me. I see how how you operate and I will always respect you game.
Treehouse 2 was a special spot for me because they had standards. Chica had to pay to get in. No street trash and they had good music. Pool, and nice atmosphere plus nice waitresses. I found a Gem there sitting by herself sipping wine. First time I pulled in Sosua 2 years. She said 3 k for all night. After the first session she said she was hungry and wanted to go get a hamburger but I was tired and just paid her to leave, no problem. I also found a nice after hour spot by the curve to Terra Linda, can't remember the name. Playa Chaqita is also the after hour spot. Just offering other spots besides Baileys.
Sousa is still fun but look at the side bars for action IMO.
Beside the one girl who quoted 125 what is more helpful on this forum is how much you paid for each girl. What did the girls quote on average and how much you settle on on average. Maybe she has a bunch of western union guys and isn't willing to get pounded for 50 or 60. Things have changed girls are more conntected ever than before. Tiktok, youtube, facebook, instagram, and tinder.Sosua 101.
"Quoted prices" mean nothing!
It's a 3rd World market place, you are expected to haggle, unless you are a wide eyed newbie!
Mr Gogo I have respect for your contribution to this site and respect your opinions. But this right here is not true. When was the last time you were in Sosua? Matter of fact no girls in Bailes will say no to 5 k for 1 hour at Bailes. Most of the girls asking for 80 or 100 usd will go for 3000 to 3500 peso. From my last trip I remember only 2 girls wanting 4000 during the day at Bailes. Yes prices are going up. Girls have a union but let not generalize things based on what someone said. Prices follow a normal distribution. Mean is 3000 peso. I have been there 3 times in the last 4 months.I like your reference, "normal distribution", a statistical term which refers to "regression to the mean."
I say that because failure to understand that leads to endless, pointless arguments and debates, on every subject in the World.
Data follows the classic "Bell Curve", with the average in the middle, falling off to extreme outliers at both ends.
Vocal advocates on both sides, pick the outliers, to make spurious claims.
There'll always be "outliers" on a Bell Curve, so the debate goes on. See Climate Change, LOL.
The outliers range from a 500 BJ in the banyo, through 1500ST on a slow Monday afternoon, to 4000 on a busy Sat night, with a tarted up chica in a 100 dollar dress.
Add on 20% to those prices for a real 10.
How picky do you want to be? LOL.
IMHO.
Take with a huge dose of salt, second hand stories, of prices claimed to be had, from chica's or mongers.
They all have egos, and will lie, even to their pals, LOL.
It's a giant pissing match, much like the rest of the World.
....Classicos was a dream come true. Easily 20 or 30 10's every night......I can attest to this. Some of the hottest hookers I've seen were at Classicos. They fancied themselves though. When Classicos and Rhumbas were rocking were great mongering moments.
Cost has gone up all over the world. Deal with it or get out of the hobby. Cannot blame other mongers. Some splurge but they are a minority.I have a better solution, leave for another city / country where there are more attractive women and better prices.
IMHO 80% of the girls I have seen these past 10 days are a 6 or lower. If you remove the silicon inflated females, that leaves a very small percentage of attractive women. Everyone is seeking that 10% which is driving the prices thru the roof. Maybe its because of the time of year, but I have not seen a single female that I just had to have.
The nature of Sosua makes it easy for girls to freelance. Most girls come in on Thursday and are back home Monday. Girls do not need pimps. The girls do not really trust one another. They do talk and try to set some pricing standards but that go out the window when baby need milk. It is a buyers market. When you walk into Baillees there about 5 girls waiting to get in because the restaurant limits how many girls can get in. When you walk in on your right are about 8 girls at tables looking for work. On your left you will see 10 to 15 on the back rows. Sprinkled throughout restaurant another 10 to 20 girls depending on time of day. These girls are competing for customers. Usually there are less then 20 potential customers. The girls try hard to get the attention of the guys posted up. On the street there are girls who will go for 1500 but they are the serious hardcore dominican and very poor haitian girls. Nobody should pay 5000 pesos for short time from the girls in Baillees. Expats seem to think weekend warriors are crazy to pay 3000 pesos because they have some local girls who will go for 1000 pesos. I think if I lived in the DR I could get all the quote free pussy wanted. Prices have gone up but 60 dollars for the quality of girls will still get my ass on a plane 6 o'clock in morning with a smile on my face.
Dominicans aren't hands on pimps. They might be sitting on a motochoncho or passing out change, but they are watching everything. It's not like America where the pimps wear the fancy outfits and drive outlandish cars.
Any gringo that doesn't speak Spanish and says if he lived there pussy would be free is talking crazy.
Now Cuba pimps in Cuba are another story. They will actually follow you and the girl and make their presence known. Completely rude dudes.
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