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La Isla
06-19-10, 22:18
Good points. However we all take risks of one sort or the other. If you do take risks at least try to minimize them as much as possible.
It's why I always wear helmets....whether riding a bike or a chica :)

Chief Justice
06-20-10, 00:26
Okay I'm going to blab after a recent trip.

La Roca's, is shut down. Thats the restaurant on the left as you go down the hill toward the beach. High traffic location, lets see what happens next if anything.

Terra linda is the new hotspot. Major money was invested and it shows. Will it last if they have to raise the prices to meet expectations?

Word is Europa condo owners want Diego to limit the mongerers. Could this be the begining of change coming to that end of Sosua? Will that area survive without mongerers? And Europa?

Passions has expanded. But last week the lineup had changed. Two months ago they had several new hot girls that werent there this trip. Is Are the prima girls getting wifed up with rich Europeans?

Throw in a very active hurricane season apon us, and Sosua could be in for a wild ride.

If Spirit shuts down could Jet blue step in? They fly basically the same type of planes. They are already centered at FLL to take over Spirits slots there. And it would allow them to expand very quickly and cost less.

Sosua appears to be a time bomb, tick-tick-tick. Same girls looking tired. Many beach stores closed, kids sleeping in the street, hotels changing, Domincan corruption, the haiti situatuation, and the economic problems. To a newbie it may be exciting, but after five years every trip is turning into the same bullshit. Even my regulars outside of sosua are looking tired and angry.

A

Change is coming I can feel it, but I just don't know exactly what its going to be.How long was did Boca Chica have its run? BC I heard it used to be the place, but now its a ghost town the last time I was there.

What made bc go down?

Bravo
06-20-10, 01:16
The more time I spend in Sosua, the more I realise I have alot to learn! All week I have been passing by these massage spots in the street, with 4-7 girls sitting in front constantly asking all gringos if they want a massage. After asking the board and a couple of americans who live in the DR what the deal was with them, I decided to take the plunge.

Everyone gave me the scoop on these spots, A full body massage with a HJ/Bj combo. Great! Cant get more "Point and Click" than that! I went to the massage spot directly across the street from my hotel (Sea Breeze) and I got just that, a fucking massage!!! I paid 500 pesos for the hour massage with a french speaking girl named Janet. It was very difficult to communicate because she only spoke a few words of spanish and no english.

Went into the room, stripped down and the massage began. The massage was pretty good, nice hands. But after she did my legs and feet for the 4th time I started to think "Ok honey, when does the BJ start? Enough with my feet and ankles!" Well, the HJ/BJ never fucking happened!! Everytime I pulled the towel down to expose myself, she would readjust the towel to cover me back up!!! Apparently, I went to the only legitimate massage parlor in all of fucking sosua!!!!

I know I have to stop comparing the DR to other destinations, but fuck me, I cant even get a massage parlor correct? WTF?!! I know there is a learning curve to be had in the DR, but somethings should be cake walk.

Sorry for the rant, but I just wasted 500 pesos on a massage that I could have had at home for free.

Buscemi
06-20-10, 02:02
Sorry for the rant, but I just wasted 500 pesos on a massage that I could have had at home for free.Ummm don't you negotiate the taxi price and destination in DR?

I have gotten some of the best RD500 head/massage in these sucio little spots in that area of town.

Better luck next time, ask for punk'in head @ Salon Figaro on Calle Ayuntimiento next trip. Tell her I sent you. She'll suck every last drop a jizz outa you and give you quick neck rub without any hastle. An RD100 Peso tip makes her happy!

Bravo
06-20-10, 02:23
Ummm don't you negotiate the taxi price and destination in DR?

I have gotten some of the best RD500 head/massage in these sucio little spots in that area of town.

Better luck next time, ask for punk'in head @ Salon Figaro on Calle Ayuntimiento next trip. Tell her I sent you. She'll suck every last drop a jizz outa you and give you quick neck rub without any hastle. An RD100 Peso tip makes her happy!Negociate taxi? Yes, definately. But I didnt think I needed to negociate something that should be automaticaly included in the services at a massage parlor.

The funny part about the whole experience was when I went to put on my clothes. With a smile she asked me "Did you like the massage? You are going to come back?" I just smiled and said "maybe"? As I was walking out I couldnt help but to laugh and think "Wow, she really thinks all I wanted was to have my back rubbed!" LOL!!"

Does punkin head have a name? I am leaving on wed, I would be willing to try another spot. I just have to figure out how to ask "are you going to suck my dick at the end of the massage" in french.

Seiko1999
06-20-10, 02:40
I rented this bike for $80 a day for 4 days in jan 2009, I went back jan 2010 vendor in front of terra lind hotel was asking $240 for a day, he must be nuts.

http://www.screencast.com/users/immune/folders/Jing/media/7d72429a-ff59-43df-9457-3efd460e1cd3

Buscemi
06-20-10, 03:33
I just have to figure out how to ask "are you going to suck my dick at the end of the massage" in french.

Chupa Chupa is pretty universal in Sosua!

Jaosousa
06-20-10, 03:41
there are two places across from sosua by sea the hotel, both non-sexual massages, m & m massage is non-sexual, kika's is non-sexual. the beauty salon close by the bon ice cream shop, the chica does bj massage. for a bj type massage place, follow buscemi's advice.

an hour long therapeutic massage here in new york i would never get for $13.88 us (500 pesos).

kika does give a good strong massage, don't expect a bj from her, she also has a place in cabarete.


the more time i spend in sosua, the more i realise i have alot to learn! all week i have been passing by these massage spots in the street, with 4-7 girls sitting in front constantly asking all gringos if they want a massage. after asking the board and a couple of americans who live in the dr what the deal was with them, i decided to take the plunge.

everyone gave me the scoop on these spots, a full body massage with a hj/bj combo. great! cant get more "point and click" than that! i went to the massage spot directly across the street from my hotel (sea breeze) and i got just that, a fucking massage!!! i paid 500 pesos for the hour massage with a french speaking girl named janet. it was very difficult to communicate because she only spoke a few words of spanish and no english.

went into the room, stripped down and the massage began. the massage was pretty good, nice hands. but after she did my legs and feet for the 4th time i started to think "ok honey, when does the bj start? enough with my feet and ankles!" well, the hj/bj never fucking happened!! everytime i pulled the towel down to expose myself, she would readjust the towel to cover me back up!!! apparently, i went to the only legitimate massage parlor in all of fucking sosua!!!!

i know i have to stop comparing the dr to other destinations, but fuck me, i cant even get a massage parlor correct? wtf?!! i know there is a learning curve to be had in the dr, but somethings should be cake walk.

sorry for the rant, but i just wasted 500 pesos on a massage that i could have had at home for free.

Mr Gogo
06-20-10, 04:35
How long was did Boca Chica have its run? BC I heard it used to be the place, but now its a ghost town the last time I was there.

What made bc go down?I've heard various rumors but maybe some "back in the day"boca chica guys can chime in.

Mr Gogo
06-20-10, 05:15
The more time I spend in Sosua, the more I realise I have alot to learn! All week I have been passing by these massage spots in the street, with 4-7 girls sitting in front constantly asking all gringos if they want a massage. After asking the board and a couple of americans who live in the DR what the deal was with them, I decided to take the plunge.

Everyone gave me the scoop on these spots, A full body massage with a HJ/BJ combo. Great! Can't get more "Point and Click" than that! I went to the massage spot directly across the street from my hotel (Sea Breeze) and I got just that, a fucking massage! I paid 500 pesos for the hour massage with a french speaking girl named Janet. It was very difficult to communicate because she only spoke a few words of spanish and no english.

Went into the room, stripped down and the massage began. The massage was pretty good, nice hands. But after she did my legs and feet for the 4th time I started to think "Ok honey, when does the BJ start? Enough with my feet and ankles! " Well, the HJ/BJ never fucking happened! Everytime I pulled the towel down to expose myself, she would readjust the towel to cover me back up! Apparently, I went to the only legitimate massage parlor in all of fucking sosua!

I know I have to stop comparing the DR to other destinations, but fuck me, I can't even get a massage parlor correct? WTF?! I know there is a learning curve to be had in the DR, but somethings should be cake walk.

Sorry for the rant, but I just wasted 500 pesos on a massage that I could have had at home for free.Walk out of seabreeze, turn right, go to the corner and hang another right. Go two doors down next to the beauty salon. Or walk another 40 feet and look across the street right before casa ceyena.

Ehunter
06-20-10, 06:07
There has been lots of writing here about traveling the road from Sosua to Caberette, then back, the dangers and advice etc.

Conversations with moto guys some years ago made me aware of a popular dirt road between the places. The guys tell me the locals usually use that dirt road between the towns instead of the main highway.

I have never been on the said road but thought people should know about it and maybe somebody can report on it sometime. On the Sosua side it begins just east of the Playa Chiquita Casino.

Member #3435
06-20-10, 13:22
How long was did Boca Chica have its run? BC I heard it used to be the place, but now its a ghost town the last time I was there.

What made bc go down?

The way I remember reading about it there was a murder or two and subsequent crack down by the cops of all prostitution. After the initial crackdown it never came back to the previous quality level for girls that it was before.

I don't remember if the murder(s) was of a hooker(s) or of a tourist but I think it was a hooker(s) and happenned somewhere back around 2002 to 2004.

Schwmm

Member #3435
06-20-10, 13:34
As I suspected but held back with it's as much a macho and attention grabbing thing as an enjoyment activity.

Jaosousa
06-20-10, 17:22
There has been lots of writing here about traveling the road from Sosua to Caberette, then back, the dangers and advice etc.

Conversations with moto guys some years ago made me aware of a popular dirt road between the places. The guys tell me the locals usually use that dirt road between the towns instead of the main highway.

I have never been on the said road but thought people should know about it and maybe somebody can report on it sometime. On the Sosua side it begins just east of the Playa Chiquita Casino.Not sure if any road would go through Sea Horse Ranch. That gated community has multi million dollar homes, some on the beach, I don't think they would allow motos to drive near their property. Sea Horse ranch is on the north side (beach side of the road) between Sosua and Cabarete.

http://www.sea-horse-ranch.com/

BogieMaker
06-20-10, 17:54
There has been lots of writing here about traveling the road from Sosua to Caberette, then back, the dangers and advice etc.

Conversations with moto guys some years ago made me aware of a popular dirt road between the places. The guys tell me the locals usually use that dirt road between the towns instead of the main highway.

I have never been on the said road but thought people should know about it and maybe somebody can report on it sometime. On the Sosua side it begins just east of the Playa Chiquita Casino.I drove the paved road between Sosua and Cabarete twice a day for a week and had no problems either in the datime or night. It is a very good two lane road total distance about 7 miles. At night there was very little traffic but you have to watch out for the motorcycles which never seem to have tail lights.

Most of the problems I had driving in the DR was in the cities/towns not the roads between them.

Hope that helps.

Mr Gogo
06-20-10, 18:08
How long was did Boca Chica have its run? BC I heard it used to be the place, but now its a ghost town the last time I was there.

What made bc go down?I have a friend (older guy,retired lawyer)who now resides in puerto plata,who i sent an e-mail asking about Boca Chica back in the days.He tells stories about Boca in the 90's.

He stated several reasons for the decline;

(1)Three prostitutes were murdered by two Puerto Rican guys and two Dominicans.
(2) Police were arresting women who were walking the streets sola late at night.

(3)Boca chica was getting darker(women).

(4)Political pressure from Santo Domingo about an open air sex market.

(5)Juan Dolio's emergence as a destination.

He also said that at one time Boca was full of Italian and German mongerers and everything was cool.Then the Americans started coming.He didnt know if American mongers were the cause of the down fall.

Could this happen to Sosua?

In my opinion"yes".

Will it happen"no".

If Sosua had three prostitutes murdered,police harrassment of prostitues,and political pressure,kiss Sosua as we know it goodbye.Or on a lesser note if Classicos,latinos,and merengue shut down,Sosua woud be reduced to walk up bars at night,could it survive?

Luckily the Italian and Dominican club owners are all politically connected.Plus Sosua has a nice beach compared to that so called beach in Boca.Sosua can always use its beach as a drawing point.

Chief Justice hope this answers your question.I just hope in ten years that the Sosua board doesnt look like the Boca board does now (empty). And that people arent asking"what happened".

Mr Gogo
06-20-10, 19:04
As I suspected but held back with it's as much a macho and attention grabbing thing as an enjoyment activity.I dont concur,but we can agree to disagree.Riding is not about "showing off" to me.It's about feeling free.On an open road on a beautiful day is something only a real rider appreciates.

Also dont feel you have to 'hold back" your responses to any of my posts.I'm an open minded guy who values other peoples opinions,even when it goes against what i think.I consider Bq ribs a friend,but he doesnt hesitate to say when he has a different opinion than me.I'm about gaining knowledge,and the best way to do this is to register other peoples opinions.

Seiko1999
06-20-10, 19:23
Does anyone know if Terra linda allows two chica in your room?

Terry U
06-20-10, 21:00
There has been lots of writing here about traveling the road from Sosua to Caberette, then back, the dangers and advice etc.

Conversations with moto guys some years ago made me aware of a popular dirt road between the places. The guys tell me the locals usually use that dirt road between the towns instead of the main highway.

I have never been on the said road but thought people should know about it and maybe somebody can report on it sometime. On the Sosua side it begins just east of the Playa Chiquita Casino.

There is a dirt road that starts at the end of Clisante, but it will be a very bumpy ride, but very very fun with an ATV or dirt bike.

Jaosousa
06-20-10, 21:54
There is a dirt road that starts at the end of Clisante, but it will be a very bumpy ride, but very very fun with an ATV or dirt bike.I have taken Clisante east, it ends about three minutes after you see the sign for playa chiquita casino, there is a gravelly road where it ends, you can go left or right, if you go right the road ends after about a 1/4 mile. There are some nice homes that sit on the water there. If you go towards the left, near there is an abandoned AMHSA Hotel there, the same company that owns the casa marina. I doubt there is a a dirt road on the north side (beach side) of the main road that goes to cabarete. That road would have to go through Sea Horse Ranch as well as through the Viva Wyndham Hotel that is closer to cabarete.

Buscemi
06-21-10, 13:19
Does anyone know if Terra linda allows two chica in your room?

Negative, take your happy hour to Coco or Calypso, or make friends with another guest to check in chica number two!

Bravo
06-21-10, 15:35
Does anyone know if Terra linda allows two chica in your room?


Yes you can, but you have to tip the security guard 500 pesos and they have to enter and leave seperately because there are security cameras everywhere.

Also, one very important note. TL does NOT call you to verify that everything is ok when the chica is leaving!! So keep that in mind when you bring a girl back there, if you are in the shower, she could walk out with your valuables and security will not stop her or call you.

Jaosousa
06-21-10, 17:56
I have been reading for years that Russians were buying property in Sosua. I have not been in Sosua for a few years, have you seen a greater number of Russians in your recent visits?

Sea Horse ranch has their webpage available in Russian.


I have a friend (older guy,retired lawyer)who now resides in puerto plata,who i sent an e-mail asking about Boca Chica back in the days.He tells stories about Boca in the 90's.

He stated several reasons for the decline;

(1)Three prostitutes were murdered by two Puerto Rican guys and two Dominicans.

(2) Police were arresting women who were walking the streets sola late at night.

(3)Boca chica was getting darker(women).

(4)Political pressure from Santo Domingo about an open air sex market.

(5)Juan Dolio's emergence as a destination.

He also said that at one time Boca was full of Italian and German mongerers and everything was cool.Then the Americans started coming.He didnt know if American mongers were the cause of the down fall.

Could this happen to Sosua?

In my opinion"yes".

Will it happen"no".

If Sosua had three prostitutes murdered,police harrassment of prostitues,and political pressure,kiss Sosua as we know it goodbye.Or on a lesser note if Classicos,latinos,and merengue shut down,Sosua woud be reduced to walk up bars at night,could it survive?

Luckily the Italian and Dominican club owners are all politically connected.Plus Sosua has a nice beach compared to that so called beach in Boca.Sosua can always use its beach as a drawing point.

Chief Justice hope this answers your question.I just hope in ten years that the Sosua board doesnt look like the Boca board does now (empty). And that people arent asking"what happened".

Chief Justice
06-21-10, 17:58
Yes you can, but you have to tip the security guard 500 pesos and they have to enter and leave seperately because there are security cameras everywhere.

Also, one very important note. TL does NOT call you to verify that everything is ok when the chica is leaving!! So keep that in mind when you bring a girl back there, if you are in the shower, she could walk out with your valuables and security will not stop her or call you.Yea the security is a cool dude. I forgot his name but take care of him and he will take care of you. I try to make sure I am cool with security anywhere I go.

MHO
06-21-10, 18:34
I only have 5 trips to Sosua but have never paid more than 2500 for TLN.

ST rates are 1000-1500, TLN rates are 1500-2000. This said, there is also an investment in time screening the girl over a beer or two, a little conversation, etc.

I do not like alot of negotiations as it ruins it for me so I will just pass on the girl if she is too business-like. There will be another one to replace her in minutes.

The basis for my price is that I pay my favorita 2000 pesos (+200 pesos for the bus) and she comes from Santiago and stays with me for 24 hours+.

Mr Enternational
06-21-10, 21:51
I rented this bike for $80 a day for 4 days in jan 2009, I went back jan 2010 vendor in front of terra lind hotel was asking $240 for a day, he must be nuts.When I read the $80/day I thought YOU were nuts. That is more than you pay for your hotel. That is $2400/month. My mortgage is not that much. You can buy a bike for that. In Thailand you can rent the whole month for $80. Que rip-off La Republica Dominicana!

Mr Enternational
06-21-10, 21:58
I went to the massage spot directly across the street from my hotel (Sea Breeze) and I got just that, a fucking massage!!! I paid 500 pesos for the hour massage with a french speaking girl named Janet. It was very difficult to communicate because she only spoke a few words of spanish and no english.

But after she did my legs and feet for the 4th time I started to think "Ok honey, when does the BJ start? Everytime I pulled the towel down to expose myself, she would readjust the towel to cover me back up!!! Apparently, I went to the only legitimate massage parlor in all of fucking sosua!!!!
Sorry for the rant, but I just wasted 500 pesos on a massage that I could have had at home for free.

Ummm don't you negotiate the taxi price and destination in DR?

Better luck next time, ask for punk'in head @ Salon Figaro on Calle Ayuntimiento next trip. Tell her I sent you. She'll suck every last drop a jizz outa you and give you quick neck rub without any hastle. An RD100 Peso tip makes her happy!Either this is some real funny shit or I'm hi off this vitamin v.

Mr Gogo
06-21-10, 22:03
I have been reading for years that Russians were buying property in Sosua. I have not been in Sosua for a few years, have you seen a greater number of Russians in your recent visits?

Sea Horse ranch has their webpage available in Russian.I've seen big Russian planes at Puerto Plata airport,but I never see Russians,go figure.I've heard they have money invested in Cabarette.

One stay at Europa hotel their was a Russian mother and two daughters that owned a condo on the top floor. I was in the Jacuzzi with my date,and these two little Russian girls started playing with my date in the Jacuzzi. I got out of the Jacuzzi to take in this spectacle,plus I didn't want to get accused of anything crazy.

Not many people of color in Russia,but these girls didnt see color as an obstacle.Later I saw them playing with the Haitian children.Truly amazing shit.

Russian money could play into sosuas future, we will see.

Charles Pooter
06-21-10, 23:11
I have been reading for years that Russians were buying property in Sosua. I have not been in Sosua for a few years, have you seen a greater number of Russians in your recent visits?

Sea Horse ranch has their webpage available in Russian.
I am told about 10% of Sea Horse Ranch is occupied by Russians (which description no doubt includes all East European peoples). Russians mainly keep to themselves in upmarket venues (although often seen in the Casino) but one sees increasing use of cyrillic script in hoardings and notices in the area with some realtors, insurance companies, etc, exclusively aimed at Russian speakers.

Buscemi
06-22-10, 04:02
I have been reading for years that Russians were buying property in Sosua. I have not been in Sosua for a few years, have you seen a greater number of Russians in your recent visits?

Sea Horse ranch has their webpage available in Russian.

Go for a bite @ Sosua Ocean Village, the menus are in English/Russian/Spanish at the club. Prolly 75% Russian in there.

MagikMusic
06-22-10, 04:40
Yea the security is a cool dude. I forgot his name but take care of him and he will take care of you. I try to make sure I am cool with security anywhere I go.My experience was I brought back two but it was too early in the day that the security guard was there, the front desk wasn't happy, wanted to charge me another person per day, but in the end, I did not end up paying, perhaps its easier to do so when its not as early in the day.

Koki9290
06-22-10, 04:46
Negative, take your happy hour to Coco or Calypso, or make friends with another guest to check in chica number two!

Go to Love n Care, the relatively new cabana in Sosua. Very nice but price is 500P for 4 hours.

Jaosousa
06-22-10, 05:17
I am told about 10% of Sea Horse Ranch is occupied by Russians (which description no doubt includes all East European peoples). Russians mainly keep to themselves in upmarket venues (although often seen in the Casino) but one sees increasing use of cyrillic script in hoardings and notices in the area with some realtors, insurance companies, etc, exclusively aimed at Russian speakers.Appears they are not out mongering yet in Sosua in any great numbers, or maybe they bring their own sand to the beach.

Thanks for the reply.

Jaosousa
06-22-10, 05:21
Go for a bite @ Sosua Ocean Village, the menus are in English/Russian/Spanish at the club. Prolly 75% Russian in there.I have no idea where Sosua Ocean Village is. Last time I was in Sosua, Infiti Blue had not even begun construction (I believe Russian money was involved with Infiti Blue). I read somewhere that Russians wanted to build in Charamicos and were behind the relocation of a bunch of families from Charamicos to some other location, probably La Union.

Any cute Russian chicas around?

Bravo
06-22-10, 05:55
Yea the security is a cool dude. I forgot his name but take care of him and he will take care of you. I try to make sure I am cool with security anywhere I go.


The night time security guard is ok, but he begs ALOT!! Constantly asked me to buy him phone cards or to give him a couple hundreds pesos or buy him a sandwich whenever I was leaving the hotel. It got very annoying after a while.

Bravo
06-22-10, 06:03
I went to the massage spot across the street from the hotel Casa Cayene. 2nd attempt was much better than the first try. Now before anyone slams mes, realise that I was flying blind. I had asked on the board what the price structure at a massage house was like, and got no answer, so I just took a shot.


I went with the only dominican girl in the spot, cant remember her name. 300Pesos for a 30 minutes massage. Very good massage, after she rubbed my back, she flipped me over and asked if I wanted a BJ. She told me the price was 2000 pesos!! That is the amount I pay for all night from Classico, so I balked at that price. She then lowered it down to 1500 and then to 1000 pesos (plus the 300 pesos for the massage). SInce I was supposed to leave for the airport in 20 minutes, I accepted the 1000 pesos, even though I thought it was kinda high.

Good news was that she was VERY good and I had an orgasm in only 10 minutes. I left the parlor with a big smila and made it back to the hotel in time to head off to the airport. Nice way to say goodbye to Sosua!

Frannie
06-22-10, 06:22
I went to the massage spot across the street from the hotel Casa Cayene. 2nd attempt was much better than the first try. Now before anyone slams mes, realise that I was flying blind. I had asked on the board what the price structure at a massage house was like, and got no answer, so I just took a shot.


I went with the only dominican girl in the spot, cant remember her name. 300Pesos for a 30 minutes massage. Very good massage, after she rubbed my back, she flipped me over and asked if I wanted a BJ. She told me the price was 2000 pesos!! That is the amount I pay for all night from Classico, so I balked at that price. She then lowered it down to 1500 and then to 1000 pesos (plus the 300 pesos for the massage). SInce I was supposed to leave for the airport in 20 minutes, I accepted the 1000 pesos, even though I thought it was kinda high.

Good news was that she was VERY good and I had an orgasm in only 10 minutes. I left the parlor with a big smila and made it back to the hotel in time to head off to the airport. Nice way to say goodbye to Sosua!

I replied to you before. I said:

"Prices, like anything else, are subject to negotiation.

One trick is to negotiate a price for massage, then after the flip get your dick hard and then demand a big (excessive) fee to finish you off. Just watch out for that. 1000 pesos would be OK for real massage plus hand/mouth job, but the problem is that in most of these places the massage is rather perfunctory and is just a prelude to sexual activity rather than a real massage."

I would have offered her 700 plus the 300. In these places they aren't really offering proper massage, so the initial massage is rather cheap and the aim is just to get you in there and get your pants off, then upsell you. Of course the girl has to pay part of that money, probably the 300 pesos, to the house and gets the rest for herself, so it isn't all profit for her. Then again, if you go to Calypso, you will have to pay a few hundred pesos for the room.

The way to negotiate is to say that you don't really want the blow job or hand job. If she says, "but your dick is hard", say "Yes, but I am supposed to be meeting my novia in 1/2 an hour so I can't do it now." Tell her that no one can make you come, only your novia.

Make it a challenge for her to convince you that she can get the job done. Have her give you a free sample of her skills.

Let her persuade you by making an offer you can't refuse, then "reluctantly" accept it. Act like you are in command. You have to understand that these girls are mostly rather simple, but very proud of their sexual skills, so work with that to your advantage. let them prove themselves.

Chief Justice
06-22-10, 06:27
The night time security guard is ok, but he begs ALOT!! Constantly asked me to buy him phone cards or to give him a couple hundreds pesos or buy him a sandwich whenever I was leaving the hotel. It got very annoying after a while.I bought him a few sosua 'hamburgers' (mystery meat) off the truck.

Impulsive2
06-22-10, 06:45
Better luck next time, ask for punk'in head @ Salon Figaro on Calle Ayuntimiento next trip. Tell her I sent you. She'll suck every last drop a jizz outa you and give you quick neck rub without any hastle. An RD100 Peso tip makes her happy!Well tonight I did just that and Buscemi was right on the money.

I drove up the street hoping to find the place, but it was so small and out of the way, I missed it. So rather than drive around again, I parked a bit further up the street and walked back. I almost missed it again except as I walked by, I heard her 'Hola' a couple of times. I turned around and there she was, motioning me to come back.

She wasn't a bad looking woman. I would say in her mid to late 40s and was probably a knockout in her younger years but she still has a nice body IMHO and great tits with long wavy black hair.

The first words out of her mouth was that she would give me a great blow job and better than anyone else because she will take my leiche in her mouth. So I went for it, after all, that was why I was there!

The moment I walked in, she suggested 1000 and I said that was fine with me. Then we got down to business immediately. She was on me right away. My shirt was barely off and she started sucking my nipples. It felt amazing. It didn't take long until I was undressed and had her stroking my rock hard shaft with her mouth and hand. Then she started licking the boys and went lower.

I almost lost it right there, but managed to hold it together. She seemed to be really into it, moaning and licking every area she could get her tongue in to. She stopped just long enough to take off her clothes and before I knew what happened she took out a condom and we started doggie style. Then she climbed on top and in a few minutes she came (or so it seemed). She was pretty quiet about it.

A very few minutes later, she climbed off and resumed her amazing oral attention to my shaft and boys. Then while she stroked me with her hand, she started licking lower again and moaned. That did it. I couldn't hold back anymore and as she promised, as I was about to cum, she engulfed my shaft and I shot my load in her mouth.

Before I headed out, I dropped another 100, hugged her and left wondering what the hell just hit me. It was the most amazing experience and the fastest orgasm I ever had!

The only minor downside was that her fans didn't work so it was rather warm but that was a small consolation to me.

She said they should be working tomorrow. I hope to have some time to find out.

Impulsive2
06-22-10, 06:51
Better luck next time, ask for punk'in head @ Salon Figaro on Calle Ayuntimiento next trip. Tell her I sent you. She'll suck every last drop a jizz outa you and give you quick neck rub without any hastle. An RD100 Peso tip makes her happy!Well tonight I did just that and Buscemi was right on the money.

I drove up the street hoping to find the place, but it was so small and out of the way, I missed it. So rather than drive around again, I parked a bit further up the street and walked back. I almost missed it again except as I walked by, I heard her 'Hola' a couple of times. I turned around and there she was, motioning me to come back.

She wasn't a bad looking woman. I would say in her mid to late 40s and was probably a knockout in her younger years but she still has a nice body IMHO and great tits with long wavy black hair.

The first words out of her mouth was that she would give me a great blow job and better than anyone else because she will take my leiche in her mouth. So I went for it, after all, that was why I was there!

The moment I walked in, she suggested 1000 and I said that was fine with me. Then we got down to business immediately. She was on me right away. My shirt was barely off and she started sucking my nipples. It felt amazing. It didn't take long until I was undressed and had her stroking my rock hard shaft with her mouth and hand. Then she started licking the boys and went lower.

I almost lost it right there, but managed to hold it together. She seemed to be really into it, moaning and licking every area she could get her tongue in to. She stopped just long enough to take off her clothes and before I knew what happened she took out a condom and we started doggie style. Then she climbed on top and in a few minutes she came (or so it seemed). She was pretty quiet about it.

A very few minutes later, she climbed off and resumed her amazing oral attention to my shaft and boys. Then while she stroked me with her hand, she started licking lower again and moaned. That did it. I couldn't hold back anymore and as she promised, as I was about to cum, she engulfed my shaft and I shot my load in her mouth.

Before I headed out, I dropped another 100, hugged her and left wondering what the hell just hit me. It was the most amazing experience and the fastest orgasm I ever had!

The only minor downside was that her fans didn't work so it was rather warm but that was a small consolation to me.

She said they should be working tomorrow. I hope to have some time to find out.

Mr Gogo
06-22-10, 07:22
I went to the massage spot across the street from the hotel Casa Cayene. 2nd attempt was much better than the first try. Now before anyone slams mes, realise that I was flying blind. I had asked on the board what the price structure at a massage house was like, and got no answer, so I just took a shot.

I went with the only dominican girl in the spot, can't remember her name. 300Pesos for a 30 minutes massage. Very good massage, after she rubbed my back, she flipped me over and asked if I wanted a BJ. She told me the price was 2000 pesos! That is the amount I pay for all night from Classico, so I balked at that price. She then lowered it down to 1500 and then to 1000 pesos (plus the 300 pesos for the massage). SInce I was supposed to leave for the airport in 20 minutes, I accepted the 1000 pesos, even though I thought it was kinda high.

Good news was that she was VERY good and I had an orgasm in only 10 minutes. I left the parlor with a big smila and made it back to the hotel in time to head off to the airport. Nice way to say goodbye to Sosua!This is some funny shit after all.

I gave you step by step directions on how to get there(leave seabreeze, hang right, go to corner, hang another right). Great you made it there. Okkaaayyy I'm sure it was a girl sitting outside licking her lips as if she's been waiting for you all day. Probaly with some bullshit massage flyer in her hand.

Here's where you should say "600peso's completa". If she says no, throw your shoulders up and walk away, there is another place right across the street. You won't get two steps and she will say okay.

When you go in lay on your back for a half ass massage, but first tell her to take her top off. After U-turn over look at her titties and eyes, you should be getting excited.

Now she is going to try to only do a hand job, and get your money. This is where you offer a 200 propina for BJ.

Here's what you probaly did:

You probaly turned that corner and walked down that street with a newbie look on your face and asked how much for a massage. Sure she is going to say 2000pesos because you let her take contol. Also maybe you told her about the french girl around the corner that didn't give you what you wanted. And that you were leaving soon.

Then she slowly lowered her fee sensing your desperation. She had you there naked with an erection. For 1300 pesos she will remember you on your next visit.

Thanks for your report, much appreciated and funny.

Jaosousa
06-22-10, 09:29
I've seen big Russian planes at Puerto Plata airport,but I never see Russians,go figure.I've heard they have money invested in Cabarette.

One stay at Europa hotel their was a Russian mother and two daughters that owned a condo on the top floor. I was in the Jacuzzi with my date,and these two little Russian girls started playing with my date in the Jacuzzi. I got out of the Jacuzzi to take in this spectacle,plus I didn't want to get accused of anything crazy.

Not many people of color in Russia,but these girls didnt see color as an obstacle.Later I saw them playing with the Haitian children.Truly amazing shit.

Russian money could play into sosuas future, we will see.Thanks for the reply and the photos you posted earlier, looks like you had a cutie with you in terra linda, playing with your laptop.

John Gault
06-22-10, 12:50
I replied to you before. I said:

"Prices, like anything else, are subject to negotiation.

One trick is to negotiate a price for massage, then after the flip get your dick hard and then demand a big (excessive) fee to finish you off. Just watch out for that. 1000 pesos would be OK for real massage plus hand/mouth job, but the problem is that in most of these places the massage is rather perfunctory and is just a prelude to sexual activity rather than a real massage."

I would have offered her 700 plus the 300. In these places they aren't really offering proper massage, so the initial massage is rather cheap and the aim is just to get you in there and get your pants off, then upsell you. Of course the girl has to pay part of that money, probably the 300 pesos, to the house and gets the rest for herself, so it isn't all profit for her. Then again, if you go to Calypso, you will have to pay a few hundred pesos for the room.

The way to negotiate is to say that you don't really want the blow job or hand job. If she says, "but your dick is hard", say "Yes, but I am supposed to be meeting my novia in 1/2 an hour so I can't do it now." Tell her that no one can make you come, only your novia.

Make it a challenge for her to convince you that she can get the job done. Have her give you a free sample of her skills.

Let her persuade you by making an offer you can't refuse, then "reluctantly" accept it. Act like you are in command. You have to understand that these girls are mostly rather simple, but very proud of their sexual skills, so work with that to your advantage. let them prove themselves.
I like your comment about working on their pride of the sexual skills they provide. Pride is a powerful tool when used to get favor from someone.

Bravo
06-22-10, 16:23
This is some funny shit after all.

I gave you step by step directions on how to get there(leave seabreeze, hang right, go to corner, hang another right). Great you made it there. Okkaaayyy I'm sure it was a girl sitting outside licking her lips as if she's been waiting for you all day. Probaly with some bullshit massage flyer in her hand.

Here's where you should say "600peso's completa". If she says no, throw your shoulders up and walk away, there is another place right across the street. You won't get two steps and she will say okay.

When you go in lay on your back for a half ass massage, but first tell her to take her top off. After U-turn over look at her titties and eyes, you should be getting excited.

Now she is going to try to only do a hand job, and get your money. This is where you offer a 200 propina for BJ.

Here's what you probaly did:

You probaly turned that corner and walked down that street with a newbie look on your face and asked how much for a massage. Sure she is going to say 2000pesos because you let her take contol. Also maybe you told her about the french girl around the corner that didn't give you what you wanted. And that you were leaving soon.

Then she slowly lowered her fee sensing your desperation. She had you there naked with an erection. For 1300 pesos she will remember you on your next visit.

Thanks for your report, much appreciated and funny.


I am not complaining, but this little bit of information would have been great BEFORE I went to the massage parlor. LOL!! Your post told me the location of the place but you neglected to say the whole "Here's where you should say "600peso's completa" part. Frannie said 1000 pesos should be good, so I wasnt too far off. Now I know better and next time I will offer less money when I go back.

Raj Chahal
06-22-10, 17:19
The girls have a schedule of rates, so to speak. Are you new? Do you speak Spanish? Has she seen you there before? Will she see you again? Are you a nasty m'fr or really clean? Do you get laid in the States or where you live, or do you have a tough time there? Then, does she need rent, or just food tomorrow? A lot goes in to it for them, but rarely does it REALLY make sense.

Bottom line, I'm there TOO MUCH, speak fairly fluent "street" spanish, know about ALL the games, know most of them's husband/novio's, etc. I get some of them dropping by for 300-500 pesos on the way to the salon for salon money. Sometimes it's just A/C and Novellas in exchange for sex.

In the street during daytime, never more than 1000 pesos. Hold your ground guys, I'm telling you, they will hem and haw, but they WILL TAKE IT as opposed to nothing during the day.

At night that's different, when the boys from NYC and Boston are in Thurs. Sunday, forget it, 2500 minimum TLN, cause those guys don't even pay attention to the exchange rate. Saw one the other night, pay the bartender at Flow, 500 pesos for a beer and throw (2) 100 peso notes at the girl for a tip. I had to translate for her what he was doing, she couldn't believe it.

But. Most girls will go for 1500 TLN IF YOU HOLD YOUR GROUND. They may say no, and then next thing you know they walk the loop a time or two and they're back rubbing their ass cheeks in your crotch.

Bottom line, it's not much money either way. The best way to negotiate with a Dominicana is to say, I ONLY PAY 1500, never more to ANYONE. BUT. I promise, if you are really really good, I will tip you 500 pesos. Tie yourself on boys, they will work for that 500, and you're just paying the going rate, with a twist.When you nego with the girl for overnight, do you pay her when she leaves in the morning or pay her once she gets to your room?

Member #2041
06-22-10, 17:23
I am not complaining, but this little bit of information would have been great BEFORE I went to the massage parlor. LOL!! Your post told me the location of the place but you neglected to say the whole "Here's where you should say "600peso's completa" part. Frannie said 1000 pesos should be good, so I wasnt too far off. Now I know better and next time I will offer less money when I go back.

IMHO, the place across the street is better. I forgot her name, but one of the chicas there (the dark black one with straightened hair) provides outstanding service. And she'll definitely go back to your room with you if you like.

Mr Gogo
06-22-10, 17:54
I am not complaining, but this little bit of information would have been great BEFORE I went to the massage parlor. LOL! Your post told me the location of the place but you neglected to say the whole "Here's where you should say "600peso's completa" part. Frannie said 1000 pesos should be good, so I wasnt too far off. Now I know better and next time I will offer less money when I go back.My bad, you're correct I should have explained pricing better.

Bravo
06-22-10, 18:02
IMHO, the place across the street is better. I forgot her name, but one of the chicas there (the dark black one with straightened hair) provides outstanding service. And she'll definitely go back to your room with you if you like.

Not trying to come across unappreciative, but these type of answers do not help. I am a DR newbie, but I have mongered for over 14 years now in brasil. I am used to giving/receiving specific answers to questions, not ones that are impossible to use. "A dark skin girl with straightened hair" is of absolutely no help without a name or picture, to a newbie.

Mr Gogo
06-22-10, 20:27
Thanks for the reply and the photos you posted earlier, looks like you had a cutie with you in terra linda, playing with your laptop.Your welcome. Yeah that was my last good moment with her(forever). All hell was about to break loose. Thats the crazy chick I posted about in previous reports(shoe thrower, airport mugger, etc),

She asked if I was coming next month. I fucked up before I caught myself and tried to re-direct.

I replied next month I'm in Colom., then I caught myself and asked how her family was? I could see her mind processing this as she said nothing.

Here we go!

"You want to fuck other girls", "you never loved me", 'I only come to Sosua for you", "you promised me this laptop". Whoa I said one day I might give it to you. Also I gave you my old Blackberry and that fake iphone, that you gave to relatives.

Then she prayed, cried and started saying "muderficker". I asked her to be quiet for one minute so we can calm down. She never shut the fuck up.

I told her to "get the fuck out I'm thru with your ass"She said no. I threatened to call security. She said go ahead. I said lets go to the pool area to talk, she said no.

At this point I want her out my life completely. Something told me to do a room check being that she had been there two days:

Watch (check)

My touch phone (check)

Money count (check)

Platinum bracelet (check)

Camera (check)

Passport (check)

Credit cards (check)

I-touch ipod (ohoh)

I said nothing, snatched her purse off the bed stand and emptied it on the bed. Bingo. Being I let her play with it for two days she assumed it was her's.

To make a long story short I gave her a 3k pesos to get out and she left. She cheated herself because I was going to give her 5k pesos for the two days. Now she leaves text messages saying she's going to kill herself because I won't answer her phone calls. Damn if I want this type of drama I might as well go back to fucking with American chics. Anyway time gone, she is history and Colombia is coming. Life is good.

Ehunter
06-22-10, 21:40
Not trying to come across unappreciative, but these type of answers do not help. I am a DR newbie, but I have mongered for over 14 years now in brasil. I am used to giving/receiving specific answers to questions, not ones that are impossible to use. "A dark skin girl with straightened hair" is of absolutely no help without a name or picture, to a newbie.
I think you’re asking a bit much.

I wouldn’t be able to adequately describe the average girl on the street and don’t think you would be able to do any better.

If you think about it, looking for the ONE girl with straight hair in a very limited cubby hole space isn’t too bad an instruction set. I am sure if the poster knew of other uniqueness to help he would have thrown them out. If not there are lots of girls around… don’t worry… be happy.

SavePros321
06-22-10, 23:33
When you nego with the girl for overnight, do you pay her when she leaves in the morning or pay her once she gets to your room?
Pay her when she gets to your room and chances are she won't be there in the morning, let alone after you come out of the shower that night...

Jaosousa
06-23-10, 00:50
Funny, when you read about it afterwards, not fun when you have to go through it. I have had similar situations.

Please post in the Dominican Republic thread about your Colombia adventures. To keep it DR related you could do a quick comparison. I have to do a trip to Colombia one of these days, it would be good to see how a Dom Rep vet compares the two countries, thanks.


Your welcome. Yeah that was my last good moment with her(forever). All hell was about to break loose. Thats the crazy chick I posted about in previous reports(shoe thrower, airport mugger, etc),

She asked if I was coming next month. I fucked up before I caught myself and tried to re-direct.

I replied next month I'm in Colom., then I caught myself and asked how her family was? I could see her mind processing this as she said nothing.

Here we go!

"You want to fuck other girls", "you never loved me", 'I only come to Sosua for you", "you promised me this laptop". Whoa I said one day I might give it to you. Also I gave you my old Blackberry and that fake iphone, that you gave to relatives.

Then she prayed, cried and started saying "muderficker". I asked her to be quiet for one minute so we can calm down. She never shut the fuck up.

I told her to "get the fuck out I'm thru with your ass"She said no. I threatened to call security. She said go ahead. I said lets go to the pool area to talk, she said no.

At this point I want her out my life completely. Something told me to do a room check being that she had been there two days:

Watch (check)

My touch phone (check)

Money count (check)

Platinum bracelet (check)

Camera (check)

Passport (check)

Credit cards (check)

I-touch ipod (ohoh)

I said nothing, snatched her purse off the bed stand and emptied it on the bed. Bingo. Being I let her play with it for two days she assumed it was her's.

To make a long story short I gave her a 3k pesos to get out and she left. She cheated herself because I was going to give her 5k pesos for the two days. Now she leaves text messages saying she's going to kill herself because I won't answer her phone calls. Damn if I want this type of drama I might as well go back to fucking with American chics. Anyway time gone, she is history and Colombia is coming. Life is good.

MHO
06-23-10, 03:11
When you nego with the girl for overnight, do you pay her when she leaves in the morning or pay her once she gets to your room?Any chica who asks for the money up front is going to be trouble, period. Move on to another, even if you are 50 feet from your hotel and you have had a hardon for this one for the last hour in Classico's.

Whenever you hear "Papi, pay me first", she is going to be a scammer who wants quick money either for drugs, her pimp or whatever. Cut her loose and go get another.

Buscemi
06-23-10, 03:51
Well tonight I did just that and Buscemi was right on the money.

We aim to please, glad you were able to make a deposit on Calle Ayuntimiento!

Bq Ribs
06-23-10, 04:37
Your welcome. Yeah that was my last good moment with her(forever). All hell was about to break loose. Thats the crazy chick I posted about in previous reports(shoe thrower, airport mugger, etc),.......
Thanks Mr Gogo, I finally got to see the infamous shoe thrower. Watch out if she ever shows up wearing 6" heels.

Here is one good reason to be careful when renting a bike in Sosua.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaGvY25bBXU

Mr Gogo
06-23-10, 05:08
Thanks Mr Gogo, I finally got to see the infamous shoe thrower. Watch out if she ever shows up wearing 6" heels.

Here is one good reason to be careful when renting a bike in Sosua.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaGvY25bBXUMan thats the funniest shit I've seen in a while.

Chief Justice
06-23-10, 05:14
I have a friend (older guy,retired lawyer)who now resides in puerto plata,who i sent an e-mail asking about Boca Chica back in the days.He tells stories about Boca in the 90's.

He stated several reasons for the decline;

(1)Three prostitutes were murdered by two Puerto Rican guys and two Dominicans.

(2) Police were arresting women who were walking the streets sola late at night.

(3)Boca chica was getting darker(women).

(4)Political pressure from Santo Domingo about an open air sex market.

(5)Juan Dolio's emergence as a destination.

He also said that at one time Boca was full of Italian and German mongerers and everything was cool.Then the Americans started coming.He didnt know if American mongers were the cause of the down fall.

Could this happen to Sosua?

In my opinion"yes".

Will it happen"no".

If Sosua had three prostitutes murdered,police harrassment of prostitues,and political pressure,kiss Sosua as we know it goodbye.Or on a lesser note if Classicos,latinos,and merengue shut down,Sosua woud be reduced to walk up bars at night,could it survive?

Luckily the Italian and Dominican club owners are all politically connected.Plus Sosua has a nice beach compared to that so called beach in Boca.Sosua can always use its beach as a drawing point.

Chief Justice hope this answers your question.I just hope in ten years that the Sosua board doesnt look like the Boca board does now (empty). And that people arent asking"what happened".Of course just like anything Sosua will have its rise and decline, but I don't know of anywhere else on the island that is as gringo friendly and convenient as Sosua. In order for another city to take sosua's place, there will have to be a lot of money invested into the infrastructure, night life and marketing. I know some of you mentioned new highways being built and maybe oneday the italians, russians, germans and whoever else has money invested in d. R. Just might make a town that is like a mini Rio DE Janerio or something. Plenty of clubs, beach and b******. But right now to me sosua is perfect for the monger who doesn't know spanish and just wants to lay up for a weekend or so.

Coolie High
06-23-10, 10:18
"You want to fuck other girls", "you never loved me", 'I only come to Sosua for you", "you promised me this laptop". Whoa I said one day I might give it to you. Also I gave you my old Blackberry and that fake iphone, that you gave to relatives.

Then she prayed, cried and started saying "muderficker". I asked her to be quiet for one minute so we can calm down. She never shut the fuck up.

I told her to "get the fuck out I'm thru with your ass"She said no. I threatened to call security. She said go ahead. I said lets go to the pool area to talk, she said no.
Mr Gogo

Hey I got a $20 bet and a six pack of presidente that it's not over with u and that crazy broad. "PUSSY" is some powerful shit. Once you land in DR again she's going to track you down, put the pussy on you just the way you like it and your going to forgive her crazy ass lol

Is it me or does it seem like the real crazy broads give the best sexual experience!!!

Bq Ribs
06-23-10, 15:48
......Of course just like anything Sosua will have its rise and decline, but I don't know of anywhere else on the island that is as gringo friendly and convenient as Sosua.........
I agree with you 100% on this. Sosua will always be the puta capital of the DR. No city will ever replace Sosua for being gringo friendly.

Santo Domingo will never, ever allow out in the open puta chasing. Boca Chica's rep has been so tarnished it will never bounce back. Juan Dolio and the other south coast beach towns won't allow the craziness that goes on in Sosua. Samana too much big money being invested there for mongers to take over.

There is no other city in the DR where you can always find English speaking people. My Spanish is terrible, terrible and at times I find myself in Santo Domingo going two or three days without meeting someone who speaks fluent English.

If it weren't for the mongers Sosua would shut down in a day. Sosua will survive as there will always be a new bunch of guys arriving.

Mr Gogo
06-23-10, 16:53
I agree with you 100% on this. Sosua will always be the puta capital of the DR. No city will ever replace Sosua for being gringo friendly.

Santo Domingo will never, ever allow out in the open puta chasing. Boca Chica's rep has been so tarnished it will never bounce back. Juan Dolio and the other south coast beach towns won't allow the craziness that goes on in Sosua. Samana too much big money being invested there for mongers to take over.

There is no other city in the DR where you can always find English speaking people. My Spanish is terrible, terrible and at times I find myself in Santo Domingo going two or three days without meeting someone who speaks fluent English.

If it weren't for the mongers Sosua would shut down in a day. Sosua will survive as there will always be a new bunch of guys arriving.There are other Sosua's,but the Germans and Italians go to great lengths to make sure Americans don't find out about it.Plus they learn the language.And are part of the culture(investments,marriage,children,).

There was just an interesting topic about tipping on the Medillin board.A guy that lives there advises against tipping(an American custom).Someone then stated that people don't like Americans because we want to dictate(force) our lifestyles on other cultures.I'm a proud American,but sometimes we are so arrogant that we fail to accept other cultures and traditions.We take but we dont give back sometimes.And we can be so selfish,even when it comes to our own.

Why isnt more American money invested in Sosua?It's because we dont support our own,as the Germans and Italians do.And the Germans and italians will never support our businesses(1)because of anti American views(2)because they have their own infrastructure.

DAMN,im watching the world cup and America just scored in the 90th minute.(calm down GoGo).

Iv'e lost my train of thought,but in closing.I feel very privledged to be American,but were not perfect.

Bq Ribs
06-23-10, 18:23
Mr Gogo

Hey I got a $20 bet and a six pack of presidente that it's not over with u and that crazy broad. "PUSSY" is some powerful shit. Once you land in DR again she's going to track you down, put the pussy on you just the way you like it and your going to forgive her crazy ass lol

Is it me or does it seem like the real crazy broads give the best sexual experience!!!
I am in on this with you Coolie. Let's raise it to $50 and a case of Presidente.

Bq Ribs
06-23-10, 18:35
There are other Sosua's,but the Germans and Italians go to great lengths to make sure Americans don't find out about it.Plus they learn the language.And are part of the culture(investments,marriage,children,).......
My comments about Sosua is that Sosua is the ONLY puta town in the DR where an English speaking gringo can get off the plane and find an abundant amount of putas in a English friendly speaking town. There is no other town with street lined puta bars. Let's not confuse those who live there with those who visit.

My first trips to Sosua I would hang out at Lou's bar and speak English all day long. I always met another monger who spoke English and would help with translations. Most hotels had an English speaking person. Couple this with the most putas centrally located and Sosua is not going anywhere.

Sosua has not changed much in the last five years. Only thing different are different faces of the mongers. Every year a new crew graduates from high school and sooner or later some of them will be the new guys in town.

Maybe things have changed and because I don't visit Sosua anymore I am not aware of it. My last zip through Sosua I could probably count the number of regular tourists on one hand (I know most are locked in the AIs).

One major change I have seen in Sosua is the amount of chica friendly hotels. Quite a few hotels that five years ago were not chica friendly now welcome the monger and his chica. Everything in Sosua is geared around the monger and his money.

My final words,,,,,,,,,,,,,,There is NO other Sosua in rep dom

Jaosousa
06-23-10, 18:56
In Sosua businesses come and go. When I first started going to Sosua, High Caribe was a large, popular discoteca about a mile from Classicos. The building is still there, it is close to where the Sosua Car wash is. D'Latinos was on the second floor of the white building, aboves Alf's Internet cafe on Ave Clisante, down the block and across the street from Classicos. Classicos didn't exist, when I first started going to Sosua.

I am not sure of the name of the bar that has D'Latinos in the back. It is an open air bar between El Flow and the Merengue Bar. I read years ago that an African American guy from the States bought that bar and renovated it, he may still be the owner today.

X bar across the street from Classicos has opened and closed several times, maybe the owners are Dominican.

The Italian guy who owns Sosua Bay Hotel and Classicos and who built the new casino, he doesn't get along with his own brother and they split their properties, with their hotel in Cabarete going to one brother. I am not sure if After One is still open.

Puerto Rican guys own Terra Linda.

There is a mix of Nationalities of business owners in Sosua. I can see how a German or a Dutch guy may want to stay in a hotel owned by a person who speaks his mother tongue.

Doesn't appear to be any hotels in Sosua that are owned by North Americans. Terra Linda is owned by Puerto Ricans and Puerto Rico is part of the United States.

When I stay in Santo Domingo, there are several smaller hotels owned by Americans, I would consider staying at those American owned hotels, one reason being that I could communicate with the owners in English. I can be lazy, it is just easier to communicate in English.

There was the white hotel across from New Garden that was empty for a long time, appears it may have been German owned.

I think there are a variety of factors that determine if a business is successful in Sosua. Nationality of the owners being a factor, but there are other factors as well. Not all German owned businesses do well, nor do all Italian owned businesses do well.

Some countries don't have a warm, tropical place in their countries. All of Germany is cold in the winter, all of Canada is cold in the winter, all of Holland is cold in the winter. The United States has Florida, the Gulf Coast and the south west, where it is warm in the winter. As such, Americans don't necessarily have to venture to another country to escape the cold winters. People from other countries might be more prone to open business in a tropical location like the Dom Rep, because they don't have that option in their own countries. Whereas Americans can open businesses in warmer parts of the U.S.


There are other Sosua's,but the Germans and Italians go to great lengths to make sure Americans don't find out about it.Plus they learn the language.And are part of the culture(investments,marriage,children,).

There was just an interesting topic about tipping on the Medillin board.A guy that lives there advises against tipping(an American custom).Someone then stated that people don't like Americans because we want to dictate(force) our lifestyles on other cultures.I'm a proud American,but sometimes we are so arrogant that we fail to accept other cultures and traditions.We take but we dont give back sometimes.And we can be so selfish,even when it comes to our own.

Why isnt more American money invested in Sosua?It's because we dont support our own,as the Germans and Italians do.And the Germans and italians will never support our businesses(1)because of anti American views(2)because they have their own infrastructure.

DAMN,im watching the world cup and America just scored in the 90th minute.(calm down GoGo).

Iv'e lost my train of thought,but in closing.I feel very privledged to be American,but were not perfect.

Ehunter
06-23-10, 19:31
There are other Sosua's,but the Germans and Italians go to great lengths to make sure Americans don't find out about it. These topics interest me quite a bit as I lived in Germany and did nothing but trade views with European people. I have never come across this keep away from American mentality though. How did this view settle into you ?

Germans are the most well traveled country in the world second to none. There country is cold weathered and their work force gets 6 weeks of vacation/yr and then add on a significant number of national holidays. (We are talking about a 10 month work year in exchange for a 50% tax bracket). This manifests into there being travel agents on every street corner that has windows plastered with tons of vacation offers. Most of the places I have never heard of. I remember seeing Puerto Plata quite frequently and at great prices. Spanish speaking countries are the places where Germans tend to go the least.


...Someone then stated that people don't like Americans because we want to dictate(force) our lifestyles on other cultures.This is exactly what the nations in the middle east have said, verbatim. No country likes the Americans shoving their version of democracy, morality, and society down their throats (TV) and I don't blame them. It is too bad the world tends to only remember the ugly American facade because as a country we are not as arrogant as portrayed.


I'm a proud American,but sometimes we are so arrogant that we fail to accept other cultures and traditions.We take but we dont give back sometimes.And we can be so selfish,even when it comes to our own.We do give as a nation... ONLY if there is longer term $ in it which is another reason why other countries resent us.


...And the Germans and italians will never support our businesses(1)because of anti American views(2)because they have their own infrastructure.I think it goes a little deeper than this. In the SF bay area, the Asians typically only spend their money at other Asian owned businesses. Latinos tend to do the same and for sure the Filipinos are no different. In general, people tend spend their money at places where they feel most comfortable with the mentality of the people they are buying from.


DAMN,im watching the world cup and America just scored in the 90th minute.(calm down GoGo).Hooray! I was giving up on them as they were in extra time... then BOOM!!!! Hopefully we don't have to play the Germans in the next round. They make me very uncomfortable being a very crafty bunch.

Mr Gogo
06-23-10, 20:25
Ehunter,

Thanks for your considerate reply. From my view Germans are explorers, they seem to be the first, then later others come. Your post explained alot of why this is. Maybe if I lived in Germany I would have a different take on them. As I stated before before I think Wilfred(new Garden) is a great guy. But other Germans in Sosua seem distant. Maybe it steams from my desire to meet people from other countries, but Germans in Sosua don't appear receptive to this view.

Bq Ribs and Coolie high, my track record with this chic says you made a good bet LMAO. But she never tried to steal from me before. Even though she didn't look at it that way. I wouldn't fell like I can trust her around me anymore.

Currently I reside at a Sosua rehabilitation Facility at an undisclosed location. Also there are alot of former ISG members here for treatment. Homeland security has been notified that we are not allowed to board any flights with the Dominican Republic as a destination. Todays speakers are Colombian and Brazilian girls in bathing suits, preaching for their countries as future destinations. No presidente's are served.

Mr Gogo
06-24-10, 14:19
In Sosua businesses come and go. When I first started going to Sosua, High Caribe was a large, popular discoteca about a mile from Classicos. The building is still there, it is close to where the Sosua Car wash is. D'Latinos was on the second floor of the white building, aboves Alf's Internet cafe on Ave Clisante, down the block and across the street from Classicos. Classicos didn't exist, when I first started going to Sosua.

I am not sure of the name of the bar that has D'Latinos in the back. It is an open air bar between El Flow and the Merengue Bar. I read years ago that an African American guy from the States bought that bar and renovated it, he may still be the owner today.

X bar across the street from Classicos has opened and closed several times, maybe the owners are Dominican.

The Italian guy who owns Sosua Bay Hotel and Classicos and who built the new casino, he doesn't get along with his own brother and they split their properties, with their hotel in Cabarete going to one brother. I am not sure if After One is still open.

Puerto Rican guys own Terra Linda.

There is a mix of Nationalities of business owners in Sosua. I can see how a German or a Dutch guy may want to stay in a hotel owned by a person who speaks his mother tongue.

Doesn't appear to be any hotels in Sosua that are owned by North Americans. Terra Linda is owned by Puerto Ricans and Puerto Rico is part of the United States.

When I stay in Santo Domingo, there are several smaller hotels owned by Americans, I would consider staying at those American owned hotels, one reason being that I could communicate with the owners in English. I can be lazy, it is just easier to communicate in English.

There was the white hotel across from New Garden that was empty for a long time, appears it may have been German owned.

I think there are a variety of factors that determine if a business is successful in Sosua. Nationality of the owners being a factor, but there are other factors as well. Not all German owned businesses do well, nor do all Italian owned businesses do well.

Some countries don't have a warm, tropical place in their countries. All of Germany is cold in the winter, all of Canada is cold in the winter, all of Holland is cold in the winter. The United States has Florida, the Gulf Coast and the south west, where it is warm in the winter. As such, Americans don't necessarily have to venture to another country to escape the cold winters. People from other countries might be more prone to open business in a tropical location like the Dom Rep, because they don't have that option in their own countries. Whereas Americans can open businesses in warmer parts of the U.S.Very good report.

Very informative,

Thanks

Jaosousa
06-24-10, 17:09
Doesn't appear to be any hotels in Sosua that are owned by North Americans. Correction, Canada is part of North America. Rockys is owned by a Canadian guy. Some rental condominiums are owned by people from the United States and from Canada.

Bq Ribs
06-24-10, 18:11
Just read this on DR1

http://www.****************north-coast/104013-police-swarm-merengue-classico-bar.html

In the last hour, (it is currently 12.50pm), dozens of police just swarmed the Merengue/Classico bar in Sosua. The owner, Armando, was apparently arrrested. I have heard tht this started yesterday but today's police bust was the first I have heard of it. Anybody got any info? Please post only if you have true information.

Bq Ribs
06-24-10, 18:18
..........Bq Ribs and Coolie high, my track record with this chic says you made a good bet LMAO. But she never tried to steal from me before. Even though she didn't look at it that way. I wouldn't fell like I can trust her around me anymore.........

Just make sure you pay up.......... LOL

I don't think the chica was trying to steal your iTouch. You said she had been using it for two days so to her she was responsible for it. If I am correct she had it in her pocketbook before the argument started. Right? Now don't get me wrong if you packed your bags and left town without asking for it back it might have been the last time you would have seen it. That is not outright stealing. She borrowed it with hopes you would either forget or just give it to her.

Now the two of you kiss and make up cuz you know it won't be long and you are going to want to tap that stuff one more time. We men here so be honest. LMFAO

You really thinking about doing Columbia or Brazil. I don't entertain that though because anything over a 5 hour flight is not for me.

Mr Gogo
06-24-10, 18:57
Just read this on DR1

http://www.****************north-coast/104013-police-swarm-merengue-classico-bar.html

In the last hour, (it is currently 12.50pm), dozens of police just swarmed the Merengue/Classico bar in Sosua. The owner, Armando, was apparently arrrested. I have heard tht this started yesterday but today's police bust was the first I have heard of it. Anybody got any info? Please post only if you have true information.Could this be the beginning of a change in Sosua as i predicted?

Jaosousa
06-24-10, 19:16
Just read this on DR1

http://www.****************north-coast/104013-police-swarm-merengue-classico-bar.html

In the last hour, (it is currently 12.50pm), dozens of police just swarmed the Merengue/Classico bar in Sosua. The owner, Armando, was apparently arrrested. I have heard tht this started yesterday but today's police bust was the first I have heard of it. Anybody got any info? Please post only if you have true information.When I read that other board, lots of bad news on there, about murders and thefts.

Jaosousa
06-24-10, 19:38
Funny, lol.

Jetblue has flights to Bogota. Nice thing about Jetblue, you can pay an extra $40 US and get seats in the first 4 rows which have more leg room. I agree, a 5 plus hour flight, crammed into an economy seat is almost like torture.


Just make sure you pay up.......... LOL

I don't think the chica was trying to steal your iTouch. You said she had been using it for two days so to her she was responsible for it. If I am correct she had it in her pocketbook before the argument started. Right? Now don't get me wrong if you packed your bags and left town without asking for it back it might have been the last time you would have seen it. That is not outright stealing. She borrowed it with hopes you would either forget or just give it to her.

Now the two of you kiss and make up cuz you know it won't be long and you are going to want to tap that stuff one more time. We men here so be honest. LMFAO

You really thinking about doing Columbia or Brazil. I don't entertain that though because anything over a 5 hour flight is not for me.

Coolie High
06-24-10, 20:50
Currently I reside at a Sosua rehabilitation Facility at an undisclosed location. Also there are alot of former ISG members here for treatment. Homeland security has been notified that we are not allowed to board any flights with the Dominican Republic as a destination. Todays speakers are Colombian and Brazilian girls in bathing suits, preaching for their countries as future destinations. No presidente's are served.Aahh yes I believe I've gotten that brochure recently from homeland security. It was written in spainish and Portuguese and it was stating how the girls are cheaper in Columbia and the asses are phatter in Brazil. And because of that "SO-SOWER" should be ban from your future travel destination.

BUT the brochure forgot about notifying people that the flights are around 1500 dollars round trip. Ooh and you have to get a visa which cost another 200 just to touchdown in the country. Needless to say I burned the brochure. I'm still in my cheap bastard mode and in-love with the dominician/haitian culture.

Bq Ribs
06-24-10, 21:51
Could this be the beginning of a change in Sosua as i predicted?
LOL, you are intent on the demise of So-Sewer............... The Su ain't going nowhere.

Jaosousa
06-24-10, 23:01
Very good report.

Very informative,

ThanksPassions Massage was a small open air bar with no walls, when I first arrived in Sosua. I can remember one trip going to look for Passions and I walked right by it. The owner had put up walls and I didn't recognize the place from the outside.

Escort King
06-25-10, 00:54
Ehunter,

Currently I reside at a Sosua rehabilitation Facility at an undisclosed location. Also there are alot of former ISG members here for treatment. Homeland security has been notified that we are not allowed to board any flights with the Dominican Republic as a destination. Todays speakers are Colombian and Brazilian girls in bathing suits, preaching for their countries as future destinations. No presidente's are served.How do I get there.

I need to go to rehab - how do I get there.

Mr Gogo
06-25-10, 02:05
LOL, you are intent on the demise of So-Sewer............... The Su ain't going nowhere.I say change you say demise,bottom line Sosua needs a Makeover. New venues,new names, new girls.The only thing new about Sosua is Terra Linda.

Jao made a good point.Not to long ago Sosua had high caribe as the spot, Sabor tells me the palace also was hot back then.Sosua reinvented itself to get where we are now.Time to do it again.Demise noo.

Any vets from back in those days,please tell us what was going on then.Thanks.

Chief Justice
06-25-10, 02:44
Aahh yes I believe I've gotten that brochure recently from homeland security. It was written in spainish and Portuguese and it was stating how the girls are cheaper in Columbia and the asses are phatter in Brazil. And because of that "SO-SOWER" should be ban from your future travel destination.

BUT the brochure forgot about notifying people that the flights are around 1500 dollars round trip. Ooh and you have to get a visa which cost another 200 just to touchdown in the country. Needless to say I burned the brochure. I'm still in my cheap bastard mode and in-love with the dominician/haitian culture.I second that!

Koki9290
06-25-10, 06:33
Jao
Terra Linda's owners are from Miami. However, they may be Puerto Rican.

And how about Jihad who owns Seabreeze. He is also from Miami but clearly not native. But then no one, here in Miami, is a native.

The white hotel across from NG is doing good biz with German tourists.

Lou who owns the Shark Bar is a New Yorker.

Derrick who owns Big D's is from Atlanta.

Fred who owns Cuba Libre is americano but I don't know from where.

And I'm wondering if the arrest of Armando is related to the killing of the Portland lawyer.

Jaosousa
06-25-10, 06:47
Thanks, I had read that owners of terra linda were puerto rican guys who used to own the Met Supermarkets in New York. The Cuban guys who own 305 in Santo Domingo live in miami, I was told.

I read about that American guy who was shot and killed in Sosua recently, supposedly nothing was stolen from the guy's house. That guy Armando was never simpatico with me.


Jao

Terra Linda's owners are from Miami. However, they may be Puerto Rican.

And how about Jihad who owns Seabreeze. He is also from Miami but clearly not native. But then no one, here in Miami, is a native.

The white hotel across from NG is doing good biz with German tourists.

Lou who owns the Shark Bar is a New Yorker.

Derrick who owns Big D's is from Atlanta.

Fred who owns Cuba Libre is americano but I don't know from where.

And I'm wondering if the arrest of Armando is related to the killing of the Portland lawyer.

Jaosousa
06-25-10, 07:01
And I'm wondering if the arrest of Armando is related to the killing of the Portland lawyer.Good article about the American guy who was killed in Sosua, in English: http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2010/06/tarlows_slaying_raises_questio.html

Armando is one of the owners of the Sosua Bay Hotel, Classicos and the new casino. The American guy who was killed and his partners had invested 1.8 million dollars into the casino. They were fighting Armando in Court for control of the hotel and casino.

Armando would be a prime suspect, someone you are fighting in court turns up dead, makes you a suspect.

Chief Justice
06-25-10, 07:07
Jao,

Terra Linda's owners are from Miami. However, they may be Puerto Rican.

And how about Jihad who owns Seabreeze. He is also from Miami but clearly not native. But then no one, here in Miami, is a native.

The white hotel across from NG is doing good biz with German tourists.

Lou who owns the Shark Bar is a New Yorker.

Derrick who owns Big D's is from Atlanta.

Fred who owns Cuba Libre is americano but I don't know from where.

And I'm wondering if the arrest of Armando is related to the killing of the Portland lawyer.I think jihad is Pakistanian but grew up in Peru and Mia.

Jaosousa
06-25-10, 07:16
And I'm wondering if the arrest of Armando is related to the killing of the Portland lawyer.I would never go into Classicos again and I would never stay at the Sosua Bay Hotel as long as that guy Armando is the owner of those places. Armando was not friendly when I said hello to him a few times and now it appears he is involved with the murder of an American lawyer in Sosua.

Jaosousa
06-25-10, 08:55
And I'm wondering if the arrest of Armando is related to the killing of the Portland lawyer.Arrests made in the killing of the American lawyer in Sosua:

http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2010/6/13/35996/Twoarrests-in-murder-of-US-lawyer-at-Dominican-resort-town

Dw1987
06-25-10, 11:24
The police arrested a foreigner there, not Armando or anyone connected to the bar. It had something to do with a woman, he is already out.

Chief Justice
06-25-10, 14:58
I would never go into Classicos again and I would never stay at the Sosua Bay Hotel as long as that guy Armando is the owner of those places. Armando was not friendly when I said hello to him a few times and now it appears he is involved with the murder of an American lawyer in Sosua.This thing is getting deeper and deeper.

Bq Ribs
06-25-10, 15:38
......bottom line Sosua needs a Makeover. New venues,new names, new girls.The only thing new about Sosua is Terra Linda........


........Any vets from back in those days,please tell us what was going on then.Thanks.
When was your first trip to Sosua? I made my first visit May 2005 and a quick drive through in May 2010. Things are basically the same. A few new bar names, different hotel names, more putas and more mongers with fewer regular tourists.

You want change? You need to change your location cuz the town of Sosua ain't gonna change.

Within a year I did four trips to Sosua (2005). I needed a change so I tried a trip Boca Chica/Sosua. In Boca Chica I found the cute chicas with sailor outfits, a new friend nipple lady and a different scene. Little did I know that was the beginning of the end of Sosua for me. Trip six to rep dom I went to Boca Chica/Santo Domingo. Hitting Santo Domingo nailed the coffin shut on my Sosua days. Once I hit SD I had no desire to return to Sosua.

In 2005 as mentioned John's Palace was the spot. Europa also was one of the main hotels to stay at. New Garden was under a different name and chica friendly but few guys knew about the place. One Ocean Place was the best low key chica friendly hotel. Lou's Shark Bar was on the beach. SeaCrets was preparing to open. You could roll out of your bed anytime at night and just about all the bars were open. No curfew in them days.

I have nothing against Sosua the way it is. I think the city is great for guys who like the wild west atmosphere of Sosua. Just my two pesos but I don't think Sosua needs to change a thing. Sosua will continue to survive just the way it is. NO makeover necessary.

Is the Magic Man still in town? Maybe he can help with the makeover.....

Mr Gogo
06-25-10, 16:58
When was your first trip to Sosua? I made my first visit May 2005 and a quick drive through in May 2010. Things are basically the same. A few new bar names, different hotel names, more putas and more mongers with fewer regular tourists.

You want change? You need to change your location because the town of Sosua ain't going to change.

Within a year I did four trips to Sosua (2005). I needed a change so I tried a trip Boca Chica/Sosua. In Boca Chica I found the cute chicas with sailor outfits, a new friend nipple lady and a different scene. Little did I know that was the beginning of the end of Sosua for me. Trip six to rep dom I went to Boca Chica/Santo Domingo. Hitting Santo Domingo nailed the coffin shut on my Sosua days. Once I hit SD I had no desire to return to Sosua.

In 2005 as mentioned John's Palace was the spot. Europa also was one of the main hotels to stay at. New Garden was under a different name and chica friendly but few guys knew about the place. One Ocean Place was the best low key chica friendly hotel. Lou's Shark Bar was on the beach. SeaCrets was preparing to open. You could roll out of your bed anytime at night and just about all the bars were open. No curfew in them days.

I have nothing against Sosua the way it is. I think the city is great for guys who like the wild west atmosphere of Sosua. Just my two pesos but I don't think Sosua needs to change a thing. Sosua will continue to survive just the way it is. NO makeover necessary.

Is the Magic Man still in town? Maybe he can help with the makeover.That's Batista, he smokes through his nose.

Mr Gogo
06-25-10, 17:18
When was your first trip to Sosua? I made my first visit May 2005 and a quick drive through in May 2010. Things are basically the same. A few new bar names, different hotel names, more putas and more mongers with fewer regular tourists.

You want change? You need to change your location because the town of Sosua ain't going to change.

Within a year I did four trips to Sosua (2005). I needed a change so I tried a trip Boca Chica/Sosua. In Boca Chica I found the cute chicas with sailor outfits, a new friend nipple lady and a different scene. Little did I know that was the beginning of the end of Sosua for me. Trip six to rep dom I went to Boca Chica/Santo Domingo. Hitting Santo Domingo nailed the coffin shut on my Sosua days. Once I hit SD I had no desire to return to Sosua.

In 2005 as mentioned John's Palace was the spot. Europa also was one of the main hotels to stay at. New Garden was under a different name and chica friendly but few guys knew about the place. One Ocean Place was the best low key chica friendly hotel. Lou's Shark Bar was on the beach. SeaCrets was preparing to open. You could roll out of your bed anytime at night and just about all the bars were open. No curfew in them days.

I have nothing against Sosua the way it is. I think the city is great for guys who like the wild west atmosphere of Sosua. Just my two pesos but I don't think Sosua needs to change a thing. Sosua will continue to survive just the way it is. NO makeover necessary.

Is the Magic Man still in town? Maybe he can help with the makeover.My first trip to Sosua was in 06. My dad and his brothers/buddies had been going to BB for years. Before 06 I didn't even know where the Dominican Republic was. My first trip was to BB and I loved it.

My Dad was doing a Grand opening for the biz in Cabarette. He was dissappointed because I hadn't taken an interest in the biz. We had a falling out, my credit card was shut down because I rented a car, and I had to much pride to ask anybody for anything.

After the grand opening everybody went to Classicos, my cousin and I had these two cuties. Its 3am we got girls and liquor and I'm ready to party. My cousin wants to go play in the ocean(at 3am)with these girls. I said fuck this and took the liquor and went to my room solo. An hour later one of the girls knocks on my door saying for a hundred dollars I can have her. I was broke, but said I was tired.

Well I'm eating breakfast and my cousin comes down with both chicks smiling. Everybody is looking at me like "WTF'. Everybody started ripping me, and I ripped back. We almost had a family riot at that breakfast table. I walked away, and went to Sosua and they didn't hear from me for months. Everybody eventually reconciled, but I was hooked on Sosua.

Ehunter
06-25-10, 19:10
...But other Germans in Sosua seem distant. Maybe it steams from my desire to meet people from other countries, but Germans in Sosua don't appear receptive to this view.
I forgot to add this to my previous message, and most will find it appalling, as I did, bit it is true. I seem to remember a LAW in Germany that pertains to Low income earners, whereas these low income people are entitled to a vacation the same way as a person with a stable decent-earning job. The country gives those people money to take a vacation!!! This makes it even easier to understand why Germans are so well traveled.

Anyway, about your observation with Germans being distant.... Not only do non-Germans feel this way about them, but the Germans also agree they are this way themselves in their own country!!! LOL

It is carry over mentality that is hundreds of years old. Without getting into their history, Germans don't like associating outside their own immediate circles because it imposes commitments that come with the relationships that they rather not put energy into. Those commitments take away their time and use energy in ways which they don't think is "efficient".

In General, the shorter the term of the "value" commitment, the more likely it is you will get shunned. So dont take it personally because the Germans do this quite commonly to themselves too!

Jaosousa
06-25-10, 19:15
This thing is getting deeper and deeper.The American lawyer had been in the U.S. Military and served in Vietnam and Europe. He was a sports guy who played college basketball and ran marathons. He started a foundation to help Dominican kids pay for college. He bought a million dollar home in the playa chiquito section of Sosua.

Armando the guy who owns classicos, sosua bay hotel and victorian house, wanted to build a casino/convention center supposedly next door to the Victorian House.

The American lawyer who was killed was part of a group that invested 1.8 million with Armando, for Armando to build the casino and convention center.

Supposedly the work never got completed. The casino and convention center were supposed to open in 2007. The American lawyer fought Armando in Court for the last 3 years trying to get his group's 1.8 millions dollar investment back.

For the 1.8 million investment Armando received, he put up the Victorian House as collateral. A Dominican judge determined that the Victorian House would be auctioned off to the highest bidder and the proceeds going to American's group of investors.

The day before the Judge was to set an auction date, the American lawyer was shot 4 times in the bedroom of his home in Sosua. Supposedly the most recent documents regarding the ongoing battle with Armando were missing from his house. Expensive items in her his house including his Lexus motor vehicle, were not stolen.

The guy Armando may be a sociopath. I can remember the youtube video of him, when he was fighting with the Dominican owners of X bar. I knew a guy who used to work at Sosua Bay Hotel and he said Armando and one of his brothers did not like each other and they had to split the family owned business, which included hotels in Sosua and Cabarete. From the Oregon Live article, it states Armando had a business partner with whom he would have fights, where gunshots were fired. Maybe Armando did not kill the American lawyer. But for me, I would not support any business associated with a guy like Armando.

Caribic_Monger
06-25-10, 19:18
I forgot to add this to my previous message, and most will find it appalling, as I did, bit it is true. I seem to remember a LAW in Germany that pertains to Low income earners, whereas these low income people are entitled to a vacation the same way as a person with a stable decent-earning job. The country gives those people money to take a vacation!!! This makes it even easier to understand why Germans are so well traveled.

Anyway, about your observation with Germans being distant.... Not only do non-Germans feel this way about them, but the Germans also agree they are this way themselves in their own country!!! LOL

It is carry over mentality that is hundreds of years old. Without getting into their history, Germans don't like associating outside their own immediate circles because it imposes commitments that come with the relationships that they rather not put energy into. Those commitments take away their time and use energy in ways which they don't think is "efficient".

In General, the shorter the term of the "value" commitment, the more likely it is you will get shunned. So dont take it personally because the Germans do this quite commonly to themselves too!Your "statement" is wrong from A - Z

Mr Gogo
06-25-10, 19:40
I forgot to add this to my previous message, and most will find it appalling, as I did, bit it is true. I seem to remember a LAW in Germany that pertains to Low income earners, whereas these low income people are entitled to a vacation the same way as a person with a stable decent-earning job. The country gives those people money to take a vacation!!! This makes it even easier to understand why Germans are so well traveled.

Anyway, about your observation with Germans being distant.... Not only do non-Germans feel this way about them, but the Germans also agree they are this way themselves in their own country!!! LOL

It is carry over mentality that is hundreds of years old. Without getting into their history, Germans don't like associating outside their own immediate circles because it imposes commitments that come with the relationships that they rather not put energy into. Those commitments take away their time and use energy in ways which they don't think is "efficient".

In General, the shorter the term of the "value" commitment, the more likely it is you will get shunned. So dont take it personally because the Germans do this quite commonly to themselves too!Thanks for your opinion.One day I hope to meet you over a beer.I think we will have a very interesting conversation.You seem well traveled and knowledgeable.

Jaosousa
06-25-10, 21:07
This thing is getting deeper and deeper.The killed American lawyer had invested in the new casino across from the Sosua Bay Hotel. From reading the articles it appeared that maybe they were planning on building something adjacent to the Victorian House. This link shows how the new casino was supposed to look when it opened in November 2007; http://www.sosuabayresort.com/sosuabay-center.htm

Some members may not appreciate me posting information regarding the murder of an American in Sosua, on this thread. However for me, since Classicos, which is a popular monger hangout for Americans, is owned by a guy who may have tried to defraud a fellow American and quite possibly may have had something to with the American's murder, it might be useful information, so that mongers may decide to spend their money in other bars in Sosua and not stay at the Sosua Bay Hotel.

Bq Ribs
06-25-10, 23:05
Very interesting and different start to Sosua chica chasing. I like many guys had finalized my divorce, realized I wasn't getting any younger and just decided to do something different. I always loved women so buying pussy was no big deal to me. I searched online and found a place in Florida you just show up, pay and they give you ladies to enjoy, hotel, food, the whole nine yards. Me being the cheap dude I am kept searching cuz they wanted way too much money.

I found a costa rica tica online message board. Did my research and off to Costa Rica I went. When I got back someone on the message board mentioned the Dominican Republic and Sosua. I took a chance and gave Sosua a try....................rest is history

Sosua has ruined a lot of good upstanding citizens...............hahahahaha


My first trip to Sosua was in 06. My dad and his brothers/buddies had been going to BB for years. Before 06 I didn't even know where the Dominican Republic was. My first trip was to BB and I loved it.

My Dad was doing a Grand opening for the biz in Cabarette. He was dissappointed because I hadn't taken an interest in the biz. We had a falling out, my credit card was shut down because I rented a car, and I had to much pride to ask anybody for anything.

After the grand opening everybody went to Classicos, my cousin and I had these two cuties. Its 3am we got girls and liquor and I'm ready to party. My cousin wants to go play in the ocean(at 3am)with these girls. I said fuck this and took the liquor and went to my room solo. An hour later one of the girls knocks on my door saying for a hundred dollars I can have her. I was broke, but said I was tired.

Well I'm eating breakfast and my cousin comes down with both chicks smiling. Everybody is looking at me like "WTF'. Everybody started ripping me, and I ripped back. We almost had a family riot at that breakfast table. I walked away, and went to Sosua and they didn't hear from me for months. Everybody eventually reconciled, but I was hooked on Sosua.

Don Antonio
06-25-10, 23:34
Suffice it to say that I find it appalling that you find it appalling. Or as my Haitian favorita once noted: "The poor do not get a vacation. They work 16 h a day. " In Germany, even the poor get a break.

Your other observations about the German psyche are just folklore. I am German. I am American. Two passports. And you do not have a clue.


I forgot to add this to my previous message, and most will find it appalling, as I did, bit it is true. I seem to remember a LAW in Germany that pertains to Low income earners, whereas these low income people are entitled to a vacation the same way as a person with a stable decent-earning job. The country gives those people money to take a vacation! This makes it even easier to understand why Germans are so well traveled.

Anyway, about your observation with Germans being distant. Not only do non-Germans feel this way about them, but the Germans also agree they are this way themselves in their own country! LOL

It is carry over mentality that is hundreds of years old. Without getting into their history, Germans don't like associating outside their own immediate circles because it imposes commitments that come with the relationships that they rather not put energy into. Those commitments take away their time and use energy in ways which they don't think is "efficient".

In General, the shorter the term of the "value" commitment, the more likely it is you will get shunned. So don't take it personally because the Germans do this quite commonly to themselves too!

Jaosousa
06-26-10, 00:04
the police arrested a foreigner there, not armando or anyone connected to the bar. it had something to do with a woman, he is already out.i read on another board, that the police took armando's computer and confirep001ed some of his guns. as a person on another board stated, the police usually do not show up with 12 or more officers for some petty crime involving a woman.

appears to me, the raid they carried out at classicos was part of the investigation into the murder of the american lawyer in sosua.

Coolie High
06-26-10, 00:30
I found a costa rica tica online message board. Did my research and off to Costa Rica I went. When I got back someone on the message board mentioned the Dominican Republic and Sosua. I took a chance and gave Sosua a try....................rest is history.My first time learning about DR started when I was in college. Found this board and was mesmerized by the stories the orignator J***yDR was reporting about Sosua and became hooked ever since. Finally made my journey to Sosua in 2007. First nite was overwelm by the selection.So much so that I pick an ugly broad cus I couldn't make up my mind. No matter got her to the crib and smashed her in the pool. Good memories

Buscemi
06-26-10, 03:15
I think jihad is Pakistanian but grew up in Peru and Mia.

Jihad is Christian Maronite Lebanese and lived most of his life in Miami.

Mr Gogo
06-26-10, 09:35
As last I checked this is a discussion board. To say "one does not have a clue" or "they are wrong from A-Z", without trying to validate your point is pointless. Please feel free to expand on your views on this topic. The only problem will be if we get away from the Sosua topic others will complain. But a brief reflection of your feelings is appreciated.

Jaososua, this is Sosua information regarding the topic of"murdered attorney in Sosua", it is relevant. The sad part is, that if this guy was a normal 'JOE" it would'nt be a topic. But this guy was an attorney, Business man, well educated, well respected, and American. This will vibrate all the way to President Lionel. The message must be recieved that non Dominicans can not be murdered without justice.

The subject of sex in Sosua has not been discussed recently. But recent events require dialog. There are major recent developments that affect ALL mongerers in Sosua. To be honest, this board regarding sex and adventure info has been reduced to five guys(J, Bq, CJ, Ch, SP,). So if your not a regular information provider, don't feel free to make a cameo appearance to critize and run away. Stand tall, make your point, and respect other peoples opinions. Respectfully yours GoGo.

Ehunter
06-26-10, 10:19
Suffice it to say that I find it appalling that you find it appalling. Or as my Haitian favorita once noted: "The poor do not get a vacation. They work 16 h a day. " In Germany, even the poor get a break.

Your other observations about the German psyche are just folklore. I am German. I am American. Two passports. And you do not have a clue.
Well let me clue you in on something. It maybe folklore for some but they are hard opinions for other Germans. When all Germans get together and feel the same way about it your opinion might carry more weight. My impressions came from MULTIPLE people living there their whole life, not just part time. I just absorbed the information and passed it along. If you don't like what I passed along... then tough tiddlywinks.

Sorry though about my remarks about vacation and the use of the word "appalling". Shocking is probably a better word to use as I never thought I would ever learn of such a system. (not to mean that a low earner does not deserve a vacation)


Oh... and by the way... Since your the one who HAS a clue, why don't you provide your perspective as to why many accuse the Germans as being so despondent to strangers? Or, is it not acceptable for somebody with only half status to be qualified enough to give such an opinion?

Jaosousa
06-26-10, 10:28
the police arrested a foreigner there, not armando or anyone connected to the bar. it had something to do with a woman, he is already out.from oregon.live: "sosua police executed a search warrant thursday and confirep001ed a pistol and a revolver, said eddie bueno disla, the lead investigator on tarlow's killing. bueno said he had detained two people -- the driver and security guard of sosua businessman armando casciati."

http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2010/06/dominicans_seize_guns_detain_t.html

Jaosousa
06-26-10, 10:50
I stand buy everything I wrote. These impressions came from MULTIPLE people living there their whole life. I just absorbed them and passed them along. If you don't like what I passed along... then tough tiddlywinks.When I traveled through Europe there were stereotypes about every country, and even within countries there were stereotypes. When I was in my Milan, the Italians in Milan, would say the southern part of the country including Rome was corrupt. When I was in Rome, Italians in Rome would say people in Naples were thieves (the best chicas with the worst brothers, as some of my Roman friends would say about Naples).

The British had the get drunk and get rowdy stereotype. Germans were seen as being cold.

French people as being snooty, which I kind of agree with. I hung out with people from just about every country in Europe, except people from France. The French people I came across were never very friendly to me. I met people from many European countries and they would invite me to stay in their homes, even though they had just met me (as well as the University chicas).

Charles Pooter
06-26-10, 13:44
I am English and I have generally found Germans to be sociable and helpful, whether in my country, their country (where I lived for a year) or a third country such as the DR. I have also found that even those doing quite menial jobs often speak good or excellent English.

Not surprising really as, despite having fought two major wars within the last hundred years, the two nations (with the Dutch) are racially, linguistically and culturally very close.

One area I would except from this is the older generation in the Catholic and rural South where people used to be more cut off from the rest of the World and were suspicious of foreigners and non-Catholics, though this has also changed in modern times.

Bq Ribs
06-26-10, 16:52
......The subject of sex in Sosua has not been discussed recently. But recent events require dialog. There are major recent developments that affect ALL mongerers in Sosua. To be honest, this board regarding sex and adventure info has been reduced to five guys(J, Bq, CJ, Ch, SP,). So if your not a regular information provider, don't feel free to make a cameo appearance to critize and run away. Stand tall, make your point, and respect other peoples opinions. Respectfully yours GoGo.

True the subject of sex in Sosua has been side tracked a bit but you can't talk about pussy 24/7. You need to take time out to throw some shoes around. LOL You should have never told me that cuz I am gonna tease you to no end (simply cause I know you a man and can take the punches).

It would be nice to see some other guys jump in and speak their mind. One good thing about the DR forums guys don't get attacked if their view is different. I always click the pictures to see how many views they have. Amazing, a photo can have over one hundred views and no one can post any type of comment. Come on guys, if you don't like the pic at least post she one ugly ***** and post something better.

Although not a Sosua traveler I read this forum daily as there is always something new to learn. I have quite a few trips to rep dom under my belt but I still learn from newbies.

Bq Ribs
06-26-10, 16:58
My first time learning about DR started when I was in college. Found this board and was mesmerized by the stories the orignator J***yDR was reporting about Sosua and became hooked ever since. Finally made my journey to Sosua in 2007. First nite was overwelm by the selection.So much so that I pick an ugly broad cus I couldn't make up my mind. No matter got her to the crib and smashed her in the pool. Good memories

I know what you mean by being overwelmed by the selection of chicas. First time it happend to me I walked into the Blue Marlin bar in San Jose, Costa Rica. I have never seen so many fine ass chicas in one place in my life. Hell, I was a grown ass man and was about ready to turn around and run out the door. I didn't stay long as I needed some fresh air to regain my composure.

I still remember my first few trips to the DR and every ten seconds from the time I left the airport I would be turning my head to check out the chicas. I used to wonder why the locals never really bothered to notice the Dominicanas. I guess living in the DR and seeing these beautiful chicas every day of your life you don't take notice. Where I live in the USA I can go the entire day and maybe count a dozen fine chicas.

Ehunter
06-26-10, 17:06
I agree with both of what you say Jaososua and Charles. I think what you experience depends on a lot of variables though. But to say what has been described is not accurate anymore as a sterotype is just plain ignorance.

I have come across what Bigups is talking about because I have seen what he describes as Germans being “cold”. Then the many young families I know relocating from the north of Germany to small villages in Reinland Falz (for work) today still feel like outsiders in their new villages. I have also spoken to those accused of being cold and did my best to echo their mentality.

FWIW, I was branded by most everyone as an American with an European mentality during the 10year time span I lived and worked there. I had lot of conversations with an awful lot of people mainly because I was considered by all as unique commodity in my environment.

Anyway, enough of this. DA has shown me he certainly is not the cultural authority and I certainly don’t claim the title myself. The intelligent reader probably might want to choose their position to be somewhere in between.

Mr Gogo
06-26-10, 17:34
True the subject of sex in Sosua has been side tracked a bit but you can't talk about pussy 24/7. You need to take time out to throw some shoes around. LOL You should have never told me that cuz I am gonna tease you to no end (simply cause I know you a man and can take the punches).

It would be nice to see some other guys jump in and speak their mind. One good thing about the DR forums guys don't get attacked if their view is different. I always click the pictures to see how many views they have. Amazing, a photo can have over one hundred views and no one can post any type of comment. Come on guys, if you don't like the pic at least post she one ugly ***** and post something better.

Although not a Sosua traveler I read this forum daily as there is always something new to learn. I have quite a few trips to rep dom under my belt but I still learn from newbies.Yeah, I'm a very silly guy,I love a good laugh.

The whole Colombia board is under quarentine. Its more flaming going on than info. I hope this board never gets to that point.

Newbies can breath new life into a board.

Do you ever wonder if their is a female mongers site? Nah,females are to sneaky to get caught like that. But what if,it would go like this;

I met this cheap ass guy that took me to the zoo and made me pay my own way. Then he bought some bbq ribs,potato salad and one presidente beer.He ate all the food and drank the one beer,then told me to strip for pics and sex.Then he called me a cab and asked for a propina to buy some more condoms and beer (cheap ).
(I know you can catch as well as pitch my brother )lmao.

Chief Justice
06-26-10, 18:40
My first time learning about DR started when I was in college. Found this board and was mesmerized by the stories the orignator J***yDR was reporting about Sosua and became hooked ever since. Finally made my journey to Sosua in 2007. First nite was overwelm by the selection.So much so that I pick an ugly broad cus I couldn't make up my mind. No matter got her to the crib and smashed her in the pool. Good memoriesI ddnt know anything about Sosua until I made a few trips to Boca Chica and that got really boring after awhile and then I was on another board and met a guy name scott who owns a few condos in sosua, and when I was having problems with a chica in boca chica, he told me to come to sosua and I would never look at bc again. I have not been to bc since and don't plan to. I don't mind Santo Domingo but BC sucks. I don't see why pple waste their money there

Jaosousa
06-26-10, 18:59
Good post. I always learn something new from reading the posts here and I would like to see more members write posts.

Boycotting Classicos may be difficult for guys who go to Sosua, because it is one of the main places where chicas can be found in Sosua, at night. In my mind, the guy Armando, who owns Classicos, had something to do with the murder of a fellow American. If I ever entered Classicos again in the future and bought a beer there, I would be thinking to myself, that my money was going to a guy who is not nice (to put it mildly).

I can only speak for myself, but I know I will never stay at the Sosua Bay Hotel, while it is owned by Armando and I know I would never feel comfortable spending money in Classicos, with my money helping to support a guy like Armando.

There are some very nice and honest business owners in Sosua, those people should be rewarded with business.

I never met the American lawyer who was killed in Sosua. One of the things I can do is speak with my wallet and not support businesses that are owned by scoundrels and murderers.


As last I checked this is a discussion board. To say "one does not have a clue" or "they are wrong from A-Z", without trying to validate your point is pointless. Please feel free to expand on your views on this topic. The only problem will be if we get away from the Sosua topic others will complain. But a brief reflection of your feelings is appreciated.

Jaososua, this is Sosua information regarding the topic of"murdered attorney in Sosua", it is relevant. The sad part is, that if this guy was a normal 'JOE" it would'nt be a topic. But this guy was an attorney, Business man, well educated, well respected, and American. This will vibrate all the way to President Lionel. The message must be recieved that non Dominicans can not be murdered without justice.

The subject of sex in Sosua has not been discussed recently. But recent events require dialog. There are major recent developments that affect ALL mongerers in Sosua. To be honest, this board regarding sex and adventure info has been reduced to five guys(J, Bq, CJ, Ch, SP,). So if your not a regular information provider, don't feel free to make a cameo appearance to critize and run away. Stand tall, make your point, and respect other peoples opinions. Respectfully yours GoGo.

American Warrior
06-26-10, 21:25
Fellas , I have been to Sosua in December and in April. What is the weather like at the end of October? Tropical storms?

Charles Pooter
06-26-10, 23:06
Fellas , I have been to Sosua in December and in April. What is the weather like at the end of October? Tropical storms?
Could well be, but unlikely to affect your trip adversely unless you are planning to collect wild flowers on the hillsides as well as fuck chicas.

Jaosousa
06-26-10, 23:24
Fellas , I have been to Sosua in December and in April. What is the weather like at the end of October? Tropical storms?Within the last week there has been lots of rain in Dom Rep, some flooding and some deaths have occurred.

I vacationed in Sosua over ten times, different months of the year. Only one trip, did it it rain everyday and some streets (near the super super liquor store) had about two feet of water and were not passable for about a day. I don't remember what month it was when it rained everyday for 5 days.

October is a good month for prices, for travel to the Dom Rep, airline ticket prices are usually cheaper and hotel prices are usually cheaper in October. I have traveled in October in the past and had good weather in Dom Rep.

Even if it rains you can still have fun.

Jaosousa
06-26-10, 23:59
the youtube video is entitled: "la guerra de las discotecas en sosua" the video shows, i believe, the dominican owner of club x giving a speech at a public meeting, followed by some words from armando casciati.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cousrc3syok

Member #3435
06-27-10, 01:42
Not surprising really as, despite having fought two major wars within the last hundred years, the two nations (with the Dutch) are racially, linguistically and culturally very close.


Very true. Deep down, Hitler did not want to go to war with England as he considered them first cousins. Or some such equivalent.
(Once it was on of course, all that didn't mean squat.)

Schwmm

Bq Ribs
06-27-10, 03:22
.....Do you ever wonder if their is a female mongers site? Nah,females are to sneaky to get caught like that. But what if,it would go like this;

I met this cheap ass guy that took me to the zoo and made me pay my own way. Then he bought some bbq ribs,potato salad and one presidente beer.He ate all the food and drank the one beer,then told me to strip for pics and sex.Then he called me a cab and asked for a propina to buy some more condoms and beer (cheap ).
(I know you can catch as well as pitch my brother )lmao.

LMAO, now don't go giving all my secrets away.

SavePros321
06-27-10, 03:52
the youtube video is entitled: "la guerra de las discotecas en sosua" the video shows, i believe, the dominican owner of club x giving a speech at a public meeting, followed by some words from armando casciati.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cousrc3syok
lol, i think this armando guy is the same guy i sometimes see chasing around the female bartenders at merengue bar!

SavePros321
06-27-10, 03:54
I met this cheap ass guy that took me to the zoo and made me pay my own way. Then he bought some bbq ribs,potato salad and one presidente beer.He ate all the food and drank the one beer,then told me to strip for pics and sex.Then he called me a cab and asked for a propina to buy some more condoms and beer (cheap ).
(I know you can catch as well as pitch my brother )lmao.

Good one Gogo!

Chief Justice
06-27-10, 05:12
Good post. I always learn something new from reading the posts here and I would like to see more members write posts.

Boycotting Classicos may be difficult for guys who go to Sosua, because it is one of the main places where chicas can be found in Sosua, at night. In my mind, the guy Armando, who owns Classicos, had something to do with the murder of a fellow American. If I ever entered Classicos again in the future and bought a beer there, I would be thinking to myself, that my money was going to a guy who is not nice (to put it mildly).

I can only speak for myself, but I know I will never stay at the Sosua Bay Hotel, while it is owned by Armando and I know I would never feel comfortable spending money in Classicos, with my money helping to support a guy like Armando.

There are some very nice and honest business owners in Sosua, those people should be rewarded with business.

I never met the American lawyer who was killed in Sosua. One of the things I can do is speak with my wallet and not support businesses that are owned by scoundrels and murderers.Yea boycotting Classicos would be very hard to do especially if you are in sosua over 5 days. Its like tailgating to me. Yea tailgating at the football games my be cool for a few games but once in awhile you want to actually go into the games just to say you were there and to witness the atmosphere.

If I got to Sosua 5 days I have to at least go into classicos 2 or 3 days because I love women, liquor and music.

This armando fella, how has he lasted so long in DR. If he is the cause of numerous murders? Does he surround his self with 'mafioso' type pple 24/7? Is he mafia? If he is the root/cause of these murders then I imagine his days are numbered as well. Then again he may be a 'made man'. I am sure he has the police in sosua paid off. I don't remba seeing this fella when I was there. I need to call jihad and get the rundown.

Chief Justice
06-27-10, 05:22
http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2010/06/dominicans_seize_guns_detain_t.html


as family and friends shared stories at art tarlow's memorial service friday afternoon in portland, police in the dominican republic awaited analysis of two guns recovered this week as part of the investigation into the lawyer's slaying.

tarlow, a prominent portland business and construction lawyer, was shot to death june 10 inside his winter home in sosua, a small town on the caribbean country's north coast. he was 68.

police have been investigating whether the death was connected to a legal battle waged by tarlow and a group of investors against a sosua businessman after a failed attempt to build a luxury casino. tarlow's group, mocarello, had recently won a $3.9 million lawsuit that would force the sale of a hotel that the investment group's documents said served as collateral.

sosua police executed a search warrant thursday and confirep001ed a pistol and a revolver, said eddie bueno disla, the lead investigator on tarlow's killing. bueno said he had detained two people -- the driver and security guard of sosua businessman armando casciati.

the investigator did not release the names of those detained or say where the search warrants were served.

casciati, the italian owner of the company that tarlow's group faced off with in court, has been told that he cannot leave the country, bueno said.

police sent the pistol and the revolver to the country's crime lab on wednesday to see if they matched with the gun used in the shooting.

"there's a lot of things i can't say over the phone," bueno said friday.

initial investors in the casino deal put in $1.8 million, with tarlow providing $100,000 in may 2004, according to mocarello documents. the $3.9 million was to cover the initial $1.8 million investment as well as damages, legal fees and a separate $750,000 lien on the property.

in an e-mail earlier this week, casciati told the oregonian that he believed mocarello's investors were all dominican and that a decision on the sale of the hotel remained in legal limbo.

"i never met mr. tarlow -- i did not even know of his existence," casciati wrote. "all the shareholders of mocarello are dominicans and i have no clue of other people having interests in this company."

-- laura gundersonnow if those guns match the one that killed tarlow then these guys are the dumbest killers in the world.

the plot thickens!

Jaosousa
06-27-10, 05:40
Yeah, I'm a very silly guy,I love a good laugh.

The whole Colombia board is under quarentine. Its more flaming going on than info. I hope this board never gets to that point.

Newbies can breath new life into a board.

Do you ever wonder if their is a female mongers site? Nah,females are to sneaky to get caught like that. But what if,it would go like this;

I met this cheap ass guy that took me to the zoo and made me pay my own way. Then he bought some bbq ribs,potato salad and one presidente beer.He ate all the food and drank the one beer,then told me to strip for pics and sex.Then he called me a cab and asked for a propina to buy some more condoms and beer (cheap ).
(I know you can catch as well as pitch my brother )lmao.That is funny shit, GOGO you don't forget a thing, roflmao.

Her next post would be something about her having to steal chocolates from the guy and the chocolates all melting inside her purse and how he only offered ham and cheese sandwiches to eat, with the decorative bird placed by the window staring down at them.

Jaosousa
06-27-10, 05:50
Lol, I think this Armando guy is the same guy I sometimes see chasing around the female bartenders at Merengue bar!He owns Merengue and Classicos. Some nights you can see him walking around merengue and classicos.

Coolie High
06-27-10, 06:25
The subject of sex in Sosua has not been discussed recently. But recent events require dialog. There are major recent developments that affect ALL mongerers in Sosua. To be honest, this board regarding sex and adventure info has been reduced to five guys(J, Bq, CJ, Ch, SP,)Speaking of sex and adventure I just recently fucked a big girl. She was cute but still.......I gotta get back to Sosua soon so I can raise my level of quality broads that will serve me proper. I still smash fine broads in the states but when u ask them to swallow or take the ol porno shot to the face they look at u crazy. Viva Sosua! Viva ISG!

Mr Gogo
06-27-10, 18:58
Speaking of sex and adventure I just recently fucked a big girl. She was cute but still.......I gotta get back to Sosua soon so I can raise my level of quality broads that will serve me proper. I still smash fine broads in the states but when u ask them to swallow or take the ol porno shot to the face they look at u crazy. Viva Sosua! Viva ISG!After what you sent me i would be counting pennies and pawning shit to get my ass back there.

SavePros321
06-27-10, 19:51
He owns Merengue and Classicos. Some nights you can see him walking around merengue and classicos.
That's him then. In May I saw him casually sitting at Merengue bar around 3 or 4 in the afternoon on a Saturday while I was drinking there. A few minutes later he was flirting with one of the bartenders. He seemed like a guy that just keeps to himself. Didn't know he was/would be infamous though...

Chief Justice
06-27-10, 20:07
This is one of the reasons why I only come to this board for information. Thank your for posting this and I hope everyone will pass the word. I personally have never been inside the place. Mainly because I never found reason to.best believe IF Classicos closes pple will shift to X Club-supply and demand. The gringos demand alcohol and pussy, Classicos and/or X Club supply the atmosphere (music, alcohol and bitches). It is what it is. The nightlife in sosua will go on and on and on.

Terry U
06-27-10, 20:18
I see that the German's in Sosua is a very popular topic on ISG. I am an american and lived amongst the Germans for about a year and a half. Like with all nationalities there are good ones and bad ones. Some of my good friends in Sosua were germans and was introduced to numerous of their german friends. I would go during lunch time to my friend's german restaurant for german lessons and all of the german's there would pitch in.

Of course germans would gravitate towards other germans when it comes down to food, drinks, and conversation. Yes, many of them speak english but they like their comfort zone. Also, why would an expat befriend a tourist? Who's only there for a couple of days.

I seriously doubt any tourist would get dirty looks if they go to a german restaurant and order a nice plate of curry wurtz mit brotchen, pommes frites and wash it down with a tall glass of Weissbier, "PROST!!" This is my humble opinion.

Jaosousa
06-27-10, 20:33
There is some drug kingpin who was based out of Santo Domingo. He had several Dominicans killed. The police caught some of the hired killers. Supposedly the killers were paid $30k US.

The American lawyer who was killed in Sosua, had invested $100k US in the casino deal. Appears some of his partners in the investment were Dominican. If you hire someone to kill the American lawyer, probably means that the $100k he invested will go to someone else or not have to get paid.

I am sure Armando has his connections in the Dom Rep and I am sure he has enemies there are well. I would bet, lots of deals are being made now behind closed doors, regarding bribes and payoffs.

Somebody thought they could make money by having the American killed, who those persons are, is the question. To me it involves something with the new casino that is owned by Armando.


Yea boycotting Classicos would be very hard to do especially if you are in sosua over 5 days. Its like tailgating to me. Yea tailgating at the football games my be cool for a few games but once in awhile you want to actually go into the games just to say you were there and to witness the atmosphere.

If I got to Sosua 5 days I have to at least go into classicos 2 or 3 days because I love women, liquor and music.

This armando fella, how has he lasted so long in DR. If he is the cause of numerous murders? Does he surround his self with 'mafioso' type pple 24/7? Is he mafia? If he is the root/cause of these murders then I imagine his days are numbered as well. Then again he may be a 'made man'. I am sure he has the police in sosua paid off. I don't remba seeing this fella when I was there. I need to call jihad and get the rundown.

Bq Ribs
06-27-10, 22:01
That is funny shit, GOGO you don't forget a thing, roflmao.

Her next post would be something about her having to steal chocolates from the guy and the chocolates all melting inside her purse and how he only offered ham and cheese sandwiches to eat, with the decorative bird placed by the window staring down at them.
Now, now, now.........you ain't heard it all. So after the chica leaves she has left some of the sandwich behind. It was one of them long submarine roll type hotel room made sandwiches. Now another chica is coming over later on that night and Mr. Cheapo knows she likes to eat. What to do? Wipe off the styrofoam containter with a towel. Cut the ends of the sandwich with the teeth marks off. Neatly re-arrange the sandwich in the now clean container and presto........ a meal awaits Ms. Chubby.

What I have learned the hard way is what "we" think is nice for the chicas is way, way more than what they are used to. In most cases they don't really know how to appreciate the finer things in life. Keep it simple, keep her happy.

Always remember, every peso saved is a peso to put towards another flight ticket.

Alex Deuce
06-28-10, 00:13
http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2010/06/dominicans_seize_guns_detain_t.html

Now if those guns match the one that killed tarlow then these guys are the dumbest killers in the world.

THE PLOT THICKENS!

There are several "legal disputes" heading to mafia like endings as people are juggling for position. I got a bottle of crown black that it is the gun.

Im sorry the gentleman got his ass wooped by security; however, YOU NEVER ORDER WITHOUT KNOWING THE PRICE OR THAT YOU HAVE FUNDS TO COVER EVEN THE LARGEST SCREW THE TOURIST BILLS. Where I am from not only would yo have gotten your ass wooped but you would spend a night in jail until the tab is paid. Try that in Vegas, Atlantic City or Miami and it would have been a hell of a lot worse. They were pulling your leg, they wont touch him. The owners of the bars would never get any security if the dont back the people that are trying to protect their assets. If it was a forien owned spot, he definitly would not call for his ass to be beat.

Cardinal rule, ladies drinks are always astronomical. Everytime you get into premium brands in DR the price skyrockets. 1800 is high but not astronomical. That $50 for three shots...

Sammon
06-28-10, 00:14
For reasons like this no matter where I am I always ask for a menu before I start ordering or letting someone who is with me order. About 7 years ago in Nice, France me and 2 wingmen went into a cabaret. The first thing I did was ask for a menu. The first thing they did was order cocktails. Before I could open the menu good their drinks had arrived. 40 euro each. The cheapest thing in the menu was water at 35 euro.

Another friend was in Cancun and got stuck with the chica drinks the same way. He said it looked like a pitcher of Kool-Aid. He had to come off US$100 for it. He said he didn't have the money. The bouncer kindly walked him to the closest ATM.

This is a common scam in Beijing. Some girls will talk to you saying they want to learn english. They will then ask you go have a drink with them. Any punter will think if the girl drinks it will be easy to get into her pants. Many a guys have fallen for it paying upeards of $100 US dollars for a bottle of cheap wine.
I knew about the scam on one of the boards. When I was in Beijing I played along with the girl till the entrance to the bar, then pretended to look at my phone messages and said I need to go quickly to meet a friend. I did get her phone number and willingly gave mine.
She texted me and I told her about the scam she was aout to pull and asked if she would accompany me for a tour of Beijing and I will give her some money in instead of being scammed. After some hesitation she agreed and we had a great couple of days together. Ofcourse I did take care of her.

Ehunter
06-28-10, 02:39
For reasons like this no matter where I am I always ask for a menu before I start ordering or letting someone who is with me order. About 7 years ago in Nice, France me and 2 wingmen went into a cabaret. The first thing I did was ask for a menu. The first thing they did was order cocktails. Before I could open the menu good their drinks had arrived. 40 euro each. The cheapest thing in the menu was water at 35 euro.

Another friend was in Cancun and got stuck with the chica drinks the same way. He said it looked like a pitcher of Kool-Aid. He had to come off US$100 for it. He said he didn't have the money. The bouncer kindly walked him to the closest ATM.

Yeh...variants of this scam are all over the world. Kinda funny how three of us here read the same post and immediately thought of the same scam. :-)

My variant is France and Germany. Always stay out of places that remind you of an American type strip club. You walk in, sit down, a hot girl comes and sits down next to you and asks you to buy her a drink. A bottle of champagne comes with a $300 price tag while the bouncer eyes you for a reaction.

A few of the boys warned me of this beforehand so I knew better. If you want to get laid, go to brothel and don't mess around.

Mr Gogo
06-28-10, 03:15
http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2010/06/dominicans_seize_guns_detain_t.html

Now if those guns match the one that killed tarlow then these guys are the dumbest killers in the world.

THE PLOT THICKENS!I wasn't going to weigh in on this subject. But I decided to give my perspective, and leave it alone after this.

If you think Armando did it your wrong, he is being set up. And for the record I've seen him many times and he gives off a creepy feeling.

Motive; Who stands to gain or has reason.

(1)Not Armando, the judgement had been passed. Also why kill someone when you would be the prime suspect. Then conviently your driver has possibly the same gun in the car DAYS later. Wouldn't Armando have it done when he is out of the country and cover his tracks. Plus he said he never met Art.

(2)Who gains: The Dominican partners. They have the judgement. Armondo becomes a prime suspect. Also at stake are an oceanside resort, popular club and other investments in the Dr, that Dominican authorities might seize. Plus they move Art out as the front man with his shares.

As the new owners(dominicans) of the ocean front resort and property, along with the most popular club in Sosua, they are back in control. Armondo is through in Sosua even if he beats the charge. His name is mud, future investors will pass, and he will always be linked to a murder. He will have to sell at a loss just to move on.

But the main thing is bringing the responsible parties to trial, but in the Dominican Republic what you see might not be the truth.

Bravo
06-28-10, 06:57
How is a Cuba Libre the same price as a Sprite? Both of them are 100 pesos in Classicos!

Jaosousa
06-28-10, 07:31
How is a Cuba Libre the same price as a Sprite? Both of them are 100 pesos in Classicos!I thought a cuba libre was rum and coke.

Jaosousa
06-28-10, 07:45
What I have learned the hard way is what "we" think is nice for the chicas is way, way more than what they are used to. Keep it simple, keep her happy.

Always remember, every peso saved is a peso to put towards another flight ticket.True. Part of what makes Dom Rep a fun place is that you don't need to be a millionaire driving a Bentley, to have a beautiful chica on your arm. Many DR chicas, it does not take much to make them happy. Unlike some spoiled, high maintenance women here in the States.

Bravo
06-28-10, 17:27
I thought a cuba libre was rum and coke.It is.

Thats why I don't understand how they can be the same price.

Greek Niko
06-29-10, 05:11
Well don't forget about the Greeks!

LOL


When I traveled through Europe there were stereotypes about every country, and even within countries there were stereotypes. When I was in my Milan, the Italians in Milan, would say the southern part of the country including Rome was corrupt. When I was in Rome, Italians in Rome would say people in Naples were thieves (the best chicas with the worst brothers, as some of my Roman friends would say about Naples).

The British had the get drunk and get rowdy stereotype. Germans were seen as being cold.

French people as being snooty, which I kind of agree with. I hung out with people from just about every country in Europe, except people from France. The French people I came across were never very friendly to me. I met people from many European countries and they would invite me to stay in their homes, even though they had just met me (as well as the University chicas).

John from NJ
06-29-10, 21:03
Because of all the great information provided by this board I had a great vacation in Sosua. I cannot thank you guys enough. As promised here is my report.

I returned home last week from my second trip to Sosua. Flew Continental non-stop from EWR to POP and stayed at the New Garden again. The POP immigration officer held up a ‘tips’ sign after processing my paper work. Right, next time hold up the sign before stamping the paper work, stupid. Just my luck the custom agent decided to check my bags. But he chose the dive bag and decided it was not worth going through. He did not ask for a tip. The cab from the NG was waiting for me as I exited the terminal. The NG is in the process of renovating rooms and just in time. The ceiling panel in my bathroom fell down and the door to the refrigerator cabinet was falling off. The pool could also use a face lift. But the new restaurant is great and the NG in my opinion is still the place to stay and play. The NG was dead on Sunday (no Chicas at all) because the owner was having a family party. The rest of the week started out slow but by Wednesday the place was hopping. I had a good time the first trip but had a better time this trip. An understanding of how the game is played gave me more confidence and a better game plan.

Basic Routine:

I spent the afternoons diving, arriving back at the NG around 5pm. After a quick shower and a beer I would select a house girl for a ST session followed by a nap and them a late dinner. By 11pm I would be out looking for a TLN. I was very lucky this trip. My selections were drama free and provided agreed upon services which ranged from acceptable to excellent. Maybe my success was the result of staying out of Classicos and off the strip as much as possible.

I also found out most of the chicas love toys. My small vibrating dildo and a magic wand were very popular. The key is to keep the size of the toys reasonable so they are not intimidating and to introduce them slowly.

My favorite routine was to get the chica comfortable (naked) in one of my t-shirts and enjoy a few drinks/beers on the balcony while listing to music. From there it was to the shower then to bed for round one. Followed a trip to the strip for some food. After a nice snack on the balcony on to round two then some sweet dreams. Often a bonus round would be delivered in the morning.

New Garden Girls

Had a NG chica most afternoons/early evenings. I don’t remember most of their names or what we actually did but they must have provided acceptable service because I don’t remember getting pissed at any of them.

Vicky, I do remember and had two sessions with her. She was a nice MILF who spoke some English and gave a great BBBJCIM. She liked her pussy and boobs played with but was ticklish when stroked anywhere else. She enjoyed the magic wand but had to have control of it. She sucked me as she use the wand on herself. The more excited she got the better job she did.

I spent a lot of time with Jessica last year & decide to give her a try again. Jessica is all business and has all kinds of ‘up sells’ to extract extra pesos out of you. This time while we were in the middle of a nice fuck when she asked if I want her ass and what I’m was willing to pay for it. Not a good time to open up negotiations. I like anal but she asked for 3,000 and I bet by the time we were done it would have cost me more so I took a pass. I did not even counter offer. Jessica did try her best but could not get the job done. We even used the dildo in my ass while she blew me. Eventually I paid her to leave.

Margareta

Information from this board indicated that Bar Central was a popular hangout for Haitian chicas. I always wanted to try one so I stopped in Monday night. Cool bar run by a German with great rock and roll videos playing and 80 pesos beers. Before I had a chance to scope out a Haitian, Margareta a cute Dominican was all over me. Her English was as good and my Spanish, none existent but she was sweet, playful and very determined to get me interested. She succeeded & I spent 4 nights with her. Margareta is new to the business (did not know what she was doing but took instruction well), is illiterate (could use the translator), needs the money (poorly dressed, several kids and a ring on her left hand fourth finger), not great at giving head but loves to fuck and enjoys spending time away from her shitty life. By the time she took care of family business and got to Sosua she was tired and hungry but she still treated me like a king. What she like at night was time to relax, some food, a few quick climaxes and sleep. But in the morning this girl could not give or get enough sex. She was a real morning person.

The first night Margareta was sitting on the bed while I looked for some music on the TV. When I sat down and leaned back against her she noticed the black heads on my back. The next thing I know she had me laying on my stomach while she picked at my back. When I had enough a quick shower was in order before the fun began. I had to take the lead but by the time I kissed and stroked my way down to her ‘Y’ she was very wet and only required a little tongue action to reach the first ‘O’. Margareta like the rest of the girls I meet loved oral sex and were very responsive. Anyway I decided it would be a good time to introduce the magic wand. So I grabbed it off the night table turned it on low & touched her chest just above the breasts. Big mistake. Margareta flew off the bed. She had no idea what happen and started to panic. It took quite awhile to claim her down & get her back on the bed. This time I showed her the wand and let her examine it. I turned it on and ran it up and down my arm to show her it did not hurt. Then I gently touch the back of her hand with it. She was hesitant at first but I slowly moved it up her arm and across her chest. By the time I reached the boobs she was hooked. Between my tongue, fingers and the wand she came many times. She was embarrassed each time she came and gave me a ‘wow’ as she hid her face in her hands or pillow. But she would soon spread her legs for more. The problem was my timing. By the time I was ready this girl was done. And I mean DONE. She crawled up into a ball and basically passed out. Lesson learned: ‘get yours first’. About 7:30am the next morning a freshly showered Margareta is waking me up and wants to play. While we were playing she answered her phone several times. I believe she did not expect to stay until late morning and had not arranged for proper child care. But she did not leaving until we both got off.

The next night I’m headed to the strip when a chica comes up & starts hitting me. I pushed her away, said I’m meeting my amigos and kept walking. By the time I rounded the corner she is back on me this time asking ‘no remember?, no remember?’. I had no clue who she was until I look down and recognized the blouse. It was Margareta in the same blouse with the big gold bars across the front she had on the prior night. What changed was her hair. She went from long curls with brown high lights to straight black hair. Back at the NG she strips down, puts on the t-sheet and starts empting the contents of her large hand bag. It was obvious that she was prepared to spend the night & would not be in any hurry to leave in the morning. She even brought a hair net to sleep in. While we were having drinks on the baloney Margareta started to massage my feet & saw the huge broken blister on the ball of my right foot. The next thing I knew she was cleaning it out and wanted scissors to cut way the dead skin. The girl was gentle and did a good job. When she was done off to the shower we went and then to bed for fun time. This time I made sure I got off before grabbing the magic wand. When we were done Margareta indicated she was hungry and wanted to go out for food. At 2:30am I did not think it was possible but was willing to give it a go. The restaurants were closed but she got us a couple of nice chicken sandwiches from a street vendor. We ate our meal on the balcony then played with the toys one more time before going to sleep. And I was right Margareta was in no hurry to leave in the morning. She would not stay for breakfast but it was after 10am when she left.

I don’t recall how I hooked up with Margareta for the third time but she somehow found me. We were both exhausted so the night consisted of a drink on the balcony and sleep. But the next morning she was ready to go again and again.

On Friday night the NG had a BBQ. 500 pesos for guest, 250 for accompanied chicas and it was good. The place was pack with chicas looking for a free meal and it would have been a lot of fun if the rain held off. When I got in line there was this cute chica with huge boobs standing by the corner of the bar trying to stay dry and looking miserable. I felt sorry for the girl & when I asked if she would like dinner her personality light right up. We joined a guy from NYC and his girl for a pleasant dinner. Shortly after 10pm in strolls Margareta. When she saw the other chica I could not decide if she was going to cry or go ballistic. She went on about meeting at 10pm and the other chica. I actually did not realize it was past 10 and played dumb. I offer her a seat between me and the guy from NYC. She quickly dragged the chair around me and sat between me and the other chica. It was quite a show with Margareta pissed at me but not wanting to push too hard and the other chica trying to protect her investment. After a bit I decided to defuse the situation and took Margareta to Bar Central. The videos were not playing and Margareta wanted something to eat so we went to a small Italian restaurant on the strip where her friend worked. I was not hungry but she had a nice bowel of pasta with meat sauce for 250 pesos. Once she was feed and watered all was well and back to the room we went for another incredible night and morning.

I would have kept Margareta for a fifth night but things got too personal. She started talking about the cost of milk and showed me how she needed new shoes. I did not want to hear about her problems so it was time for her to go.

La Passions

La Passions is a great bar and the ladies are top notch. Don’t think you could go wrong with any of the La Passion girls. You pay a premium but get a drama free, first class lady who will keep her end of the deal.

The first night I introduced myself to Peter & he introduced me to the bar manager. Don’t remember the manager’s name but she was great. Really looked after the interest of the bar, girls and customers. She was always around making sure everyone was happy and getting a fair deal. I asked her to set me up with a lady who spoke English. So she brings over Anabel. After a bit of flirting Anabel shows me the menu. When I pointed to the take out option she was all smiles. A nice easy night laid ahead for her. After she changed we sat at the bar and chatted with some of the girls. There was no hurry Anabel was off duty and I was enjoying the attention.

Back at the NG Anabel was great. BBBJ, DFKing, full service in any position and she happily took a pounding. Unfortunately she does not like toys but was very responsive to DATY and inserted fingers. In the morning she was a bit reluctant to put out but an offer of breakfast quickly changed her attitude.

A couple of nights later I want back to La Passions looking for Anabel. She was not working but the bar manager offered to call her. Did not sound like a good idea so I asked her to introduce me to someone else who spoke English. Samira was the lady she brought over. Samira was charming. Unfortunately timing was not in our favor. I wanted the 2,500 midnight take out price and but she was going off duty before midnight. So she introduced me to Kimberly. Kimberly was a tall stunner, universality educated, spoke English and was new to the business. Back at the NG she was great. She even grabbed the toys off the night stand and wanted to know how to use them. They were such a big hit she wanted to keep them. By morning I had had enough so we had a late breakfast and said our good-byes.

My last night in Sosua I went back to La Passions. Before I could get the attention of the bar manager Emely came by to say hello. Emely spoke no English but was cute and playful. Things were going good when Anabel appeared. Now I had a hard decision to make. Luckily Emely saw I was favoring Anabel and gracefully disappeared. Back at the new NG I followed my usual routine, got comfortable, relaxed with drinks on the balcony, showered and the games began. We finished round one with me standing and Anabel in the doggie position at the edge of the bed. Anabel rode me long and hard with her ass like only a dancer could. When we were done I asked if she was hungry which of course she was. So off to the strip we went for food. After a nice meal on the balcony round two consisted of an oral fest. I had nothing left in the morning so we had breakfast, said our good-bys and I packed for the trip to the airport.

Food

I ate a late breakfast every morning at the NG and skipped lunch. I had over priced ribs at Rocky’s one night and sampled the BBQ at the NG. I also tried the Scotch 'N' Sirloin Restaurant at the Terra Linda hotel. It was ok put pricy. The rest of the week I ate at the Casa Valeria. For 600 pesos I got an excellent dinner and drink served in a comfortable and relaxed environment. A couple of locals recommended the restaurant at the Hotel Orchidee. Maybe I’ll try it next time but the entrance does not look very appealing.

I also had several good late night snacks from the street vendors. The best way to deal with the vendors is to let your chica chose the vendor. Tell her to order whatever she wants but order two. Give her a couple hundred pesos and stand back. She’ll return with a great cheap snack.

Money:

The exchange shop around the corner from the Happy Bar on Duarte was giving 36.5 pesos to the dollar. Nice clean secure place. The street guys were giving 36 pesos’ to the dollar.

Beach:

After checking into the NG Sunday afternoon & running a few errands I headed to the beach. After walking up and down looking for all the places I read about I spent the rest of the afternoon at the Scandinavian beach bar nursing a few beers while watching the world past by. This was my first and only venture to the beach.

Diving:

I wanted to use Scuba Elite again this year but when I walk by on the way to the beach on Sunday they were closed. Monday afternoon I stopped by with my gear but Kerri was taking her son to the airport and was not running a trip. So I walk down the street and tried Northern Coast Diving. Dove two days with them and it was a disaster. They are a large commercial operation who mixed snorkelers, student divers and divers of mixed experience all on the same boat. I spent more time floating on the surface them I did on the bottom. It took forever to get everyone in and down and when the first newbie blew through their air the whole group had to surface. I went back to Scuba Elite the third day. Kerri runs a great boutique shop. Her male partner and dive master moved on so she now is a one women shop but appreciates the business and is willing to work with you. I spent the rest of the week diving with Kerri and a pleasant guy from an all inclusive. The diving is not world class but you do not go to the DR for the diving. It is just pleasant way to spend an afternoon. This year I did not get up for the morning dives.

Motos’

I used the motos’ for the first time this year. They are a great way to get around town. I would just hop on and tell the driver where I wanted to go. When I got off I would hand the driver 50 pesos, say gracias and walk way. I only had a minor issue once and I knew I was going to have a problem before getting on. On the way back from La Passion this guy pulls up on more of a sport bike then a moto. He was also wearing a leather jacket worth 350-400 us. When we reach the NG I handed him and Anabel's driver 50 pesos each. My driver started going on about wanting 100. I just said ‘no, 50’, took Anabel's hand and walk into the NG. Off course having the NG security guard standing at the curb probably help defuse the situation.

Phone

I brought a phone from the Claro shop on Pedro Clisante just beyond Dr. Rosen. The phone with a 100 peso card cost 495 pesos. I purchased an additional 500 peso card and called the States each night & made several local calls. The waitresses at the Casa Valeria help me set it up so the menus and recordings were in English. The phone had voice mail but I never used it so I don’t know if it actually worked. It was a good investment.

Pharmaceutical Help

Last year I tried the DR version of Viagra and had a reaction so decided to use only the prescription versions this year. I use Viagra at home but decided to try Cialis. I took 10mg each morning and I was good to go all day and all night. It got me hard at the appropriate times but did not leave me with a ragging hard on when to deed was done like Viagra does.

Street Kids & Vendors

There were a lot more Haitian street kids this year. They are a sad lot; truly hungry, thirsty and real desperate. Problem is they are also violent. So far the violence has been amongst themselves but sooner or later it will expand. There were also lots of old Haitian women/men walking around selling all kinds of stuff from hard boiled eggs to CDs. They were not aggressive. I just replied no gracias to their sales pitch and kept walking.

Tipping

I left the maid $5 each morning and a small bag of chocolates. It was money well spent. She could not do enough for me. My room was made up whenever I wanted, she left a pile of towels each day and I had at least a dozen & half bars of unused soap by the end of the week.

I also tipped the security guard $5 every couple of nights to watch my back. I did not need his help this year but it was good to knew he was round and knew me. He greeted me every night at the gate, would keep an eye on my room as he patrol & was at my side when I had the minor issue with the last moto guy. I also found him to be a source for ice. I like to drink scotch on the rocks but was drinking it ‘neat’ for lack of ice early in the week. One hot night while sitting on the balcony with my chica I notice the guard going to the ice box & filling up a pitcher so he would have cold water to drink. Down stairs I went with my translator & typed in ‘ice’. He shook his head ‘yes’, walked away and came back with a bag of ice for me. I was set for the rest of the week. I did have a funny situation with him one night. I tried to explain that I was going to dinner next door and if Margareta came looking for me have her wait or send her next door. After going back and forth I finally got a smile of understanding and he starts to run upstairs. I thinking ‘shit, Margareta is with someone and he is going pull her out of the room resulting in some very unhappy campers’. When I see him coming back down the stairs I start laughing my ass off. He was carrying an arm full of towels. How he interpreted me looking for Margareta for waiting towels is beyond me but he was definitely trying to accommodate me.

Chica Prices

There were guys talking about paying 500 pesos for BJs and no more than 1,000-1,500 for TLN. Then they would start telling horror stories about the chicas, who would leave early, not provide the services promised, try to up sell, stole things or just went crazy. I wanted drama free sessions with pleasant and playful chicas and was willing to pay a premium for it. I gave the NG girls 1200 to 1500 for ST, Margareta 2000 per night, and the La Passion girls 2500 to 3500 with a 500 tip. I enjoyed their services & had no problems with any of them. When the girls went into the bathroom to refreshing up I would leave the money and a small box of chocolates by their belongings. I also had a traveling toothbrush/toothpaste for each girl. Mouth wash, cups and plenty of clean towels were also available. If the chica was hungry we went to the strip for food after round one. While we ate our meal on the balcony I recharged. By the time we finished the chica was happy and we were both ready to go again. I treated the girls right and they treated me right.

I did have a funny misunderstanding with one NG chic. I offered 1,000 pesos for ST but she wanted 1500. It was getting dark and without my glasses I could not see well. I thought I had a 1,000 note, a couple of 100 notes and a couple of us dollars in my pocket. I showed her the money and indicated that was all I had. Well, see looked at the money, said something in Spanish and walked away. I could not understand why she would not take the 1200 for a quickie. When I got back to the room and put my glasses on I found out why she did not accept the offer. I did not have a 1000 note, just three 100 notes. Poor girl must have thought I was a real cheap bastard.

Whoever spends the last night with me gets the ‘spoils’ in the morning. Anabel was the lucky girl this year. I gave her the extra condoms, lub, baby oil, body cream, tooth brushes/paste, chocolates, soap, mouthwash, & cigarettes which she appreciated. I kept the toys.

Budget:

Airfare: frequent flyer miles + $97 tax
Airport parking: 8days $75
POP Taxi: $20+$5 tip @ 2 $50
Lodging : 7 nights @ $62 $434
Food: 700 pesos a day $140
Chicas: 4000 pesos per day $800
Diving: $70 per day for 6 days $420
Tips: maid, security guard, etc $70
Phone: $30
Misc: drinks, motos’, water, etc $150
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total $2,266

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SavePros321
06-30-10, 01:32
(Be gentle guys, lol)

I am supposed to bring an "lindo" unlocked phone upon the return trip but i dont have any idea on what I should be looking for. Anyone have any suggestions for one that will work very well in the Dominican Republic?

She does not want a Blackberry (wasn't going to buy one to begin with) and am trying to explain to her that there is no sense in getting her an unlocked iPhone because half of the stuff on it will not work there (I know because have an iPhone) and the other half she won't know what to do with either. Without the data plan the phone is utterly useless.

Any help is most appreciated!

Mr Gogo
06-30-10, 02:07
(Be gentle guys, lol)

I am supposed to bring an "lindo" unlocked phone upon the return trip but i dont have any idea on what I should be looking for. Anyone have any suggestions for one that will work very well in the Dominican Republic?

She does not want a Blackberry (wasn't going to buy one to begin with) and am trying to explain to her that there is no sense in getting her an unlocked iPhone because half of the stuff on it will not work there (I know because have an iPhone) and the other half she won't know what to do with either. Without the data plan the phone is utterly useless.

Any help is most appreciated!I wrote a report about the i9(fake iphone Google it ).I puchased it at one of those electronic trade shows for 70usd.

It has all the gadgets without the internet.But I wouldn't do it.Family or Dominican dudes will eventually steal it.

Its a cut throat world when these girls pop up with something nice.

Alex Deuce
06-30-10, 03:04
(Be gentle guys, lol)

I am supposed to bring an "lindo" unlocked phone upon the return trip but i dont have any idea on what I should be looking for. Anyone have any suggestions for one that will work very well in the Dominican Republic?

She does not want a Blackberry (wasn't going to buy one to begin with) and am trying to explain to her that there is no sense in getting her an unlocked iPhone because half of the stuff on it will not work there (I know because have an iPhone) and the other half she won't know what to do with either. Without the data plan the phone is utterly useless.

Any help is most appreciated!

MY Iphone and HTC HD2 functioned exactly as did in the states. The only issue I had was when I put my Claro sim in. The American Versions are programmed differently. It disabled my GPS and Data. Only came back when I put my american sim back in. I bought an DR Iphone and put the sim in and everything worked. The USA Version is not the same phone. However, the DR Iphone worked with the USA sim. Really got to ensure the ROM is truly unlocked. Higher probability with foreign versions..

Bobsthrobbinknob
06-30-10, 03:45
MY Iphone and HTC HD2 functioned exactly as did in the states. The only issue I had was when I put my Claro sim in. The American Versions are programmed differently. It disabled my GPS and Data. Only came back when I put my american sim back in. I bought an DR Iphone and put the sim in and everything worked. The USA Version is not the same phone. However, the DR Iphone worked with the USA sim. Really got to ensure the ROM is truly unlocked. Higher probability with foreign versions..

Don't take them that shit, they REALLY DON'T DESERVE IT. Here are a couple of links to sites where I buy $50 IPhone clones. You can get about any clone you want, and let them complain if it doesn't suit. They can't use those HTC's and IPhones to capacity down there, and it's a lot easier to just hand them this with a small mini SD of bachata stuck in there and tell them to shut the fuck up and listen to their music.

http://gizmoheart.com/index.php?p=catalog&parent=12&pg=1
http://www.sourcinggate.com/

Twice Divorced
06-30-10, 04:03
True. Part of what makes Dom Rep a fun place is that you don't need to be a millionaire driving a Bentley, to have a beautiful chica on your arm.
The problem is that too many guys who come from the states want to give the impression that they are millionaires and drive Bentleys.

Twice Divorced
06-30-10, 04:06
MY Iphone and HTC HD2 functioned exactly as did in the states. The only issue I had was when I put my Claro sim in. The American Versions are programmed differently. It disabled my GPS and Data. Only came back when I put my american sim back in. I bought an DR Iphone and put the sim in and everything worked. The USA Version is not the same phone. However, the DR Iphone worked with the USA sim. Really got to ensure the ROM is truly unlocked. Higher probability with foreign versions..
I just had my Iphone unlocked 4-5 days ago and EVERYTHING works properly. Just returned from SD today and used the GPS to return to POP, no problem. I think what you said regarding having it properly unlocked is key.

SavePros321
06-30-10, 04:14
Don't take them that shit, they REALLY DON'T DESERVE IT. Here are a couple of links to sites where I buy $50 IPhone clones. You can get about any clone you want, and let them complain if it doesn't suit. They can't use those HTC's and IPhones to capacity down there, and it's a lot easier to just hand them this with a small mini SD of bachata stuck in there and tell them to shut the fuck up and listen to their music.

http://gizmoheart.com/index.php?p=catalog&parent=12&pg=1
http://www.sourcinggate.com/
Muchas gracias! Those iPhone knock-offs are exactly what I was looking for. I would always see chicas with them while there but never knew the name of them. Glad to see they are only $50, lol!

La Isla
06-30-10, 04:43
Well don't forget about the Greeks!

LOL

The Greeks are the heros of sex! Otherwise, we wouldn't here those sweet words, "Papi, mi culo es tuyo!"

My Greek friends father was from a small village in Crete. He told me, "If you don't smack a woman once in a while, and fuck her in the ass, she'll never behave!" hahaha
Well, I'm not sure if I agree with the smack part, but the ass part works for me!

Jaosousa
06-30-10, 04:51
Once you start down that slippery slope, of having the chicas dictate what gifts they want, it usually never stops. On your next trip she will ask for a laptop.

I had one chica who wanted a motorola razor cell phone, years ago, I bought her a prepaid one at walmart for around $80 dollars. I stopped seeing that chica.

My last trip I gave a chica a $20 watch I bought at Walmart and she was very happy. A few years ago I gave another chica a $20 Samsung cell phone, she still has the phone and uses it and I still see that chica.

I like to give gifts, but I like to give gifts on my terms. When chicas start dictating to me, that they want this model or that model of phone, it is a red flag. To me, I don't care how my cell phone looks, I am happy with a $20 Samsung phone.

For many chicas in DR, a cell phone is like a fashion accessory, like a louis vuitton bag (to me they look nothing special and slightly ugly). It is a just a status symbol.

I doubt any of their Dominican or Haitian boyfriends give them any gifts. Some chicas could easily give whatever gifts they get, to their Dominican or Haitian boyfriends.

It is nice to be generous with a person you like, but, be careful, some chicas will use and abuse a guy just as well as some guys use chicas.

It is your money (I don't like anyone telling me how to spend my money), giving her a $50 or $100 or more, phone may make economic sense, the chica might be very happy with the gift and stay with you for three or more days. So you might be saving money in the long run, rather than if you went out and paid different chicas to be with you for three or more days. Some chicas will factor in that you gave them a nice gift, but some chicas will still ask for money, even if you gave them a nice gift.

If the chica is hardcore in her demands for a particular expensive phone, then it might be best to walk away from her. There are plenty of non-high-maintenance chicas in DR, no need to have to have a greedy DR chica by your side.

These are just my two pesos, you are a big boy, you know what is right for you.


(Be gentle guys, lol)

I am supposed to bring an "lindo" unlocked phone upon the return trip but i dont have any idea on what I should be looking for. Anyone have any suggestions for one that will work very well in the Dominican Republic?

She does not want a Blackberry (wasn't going to buy one to begin with) and am trying to explain to her that there is no sense in getting her an unlocked iPhone because half of the stuff on it will not work there (I know because have an iPhone) and the other half she won't know what to do with either. Without the data plan the phone is utterly useless.

Any help is most appreciated!

Jaosousa
06-30-10, 05:03
The Greeks are the heros of sex! Otherwise, we wouldn't here those sweet words, "Papi, mi culo es tuyo!"

My Greek friends father was from a small village in Crete. He told me, "If you don't smack a woman once in a while, and fuck her in the ass, she'll never behave!" hahaha

Well, I'm not sure if I agree with the smack part, but the ass part works for me!There are a few funny Dominican songs that are about anal sex. Herculito by Aguakate is one, the guy sings about his two sons, one is named herculito, the way the song is song, lots of double meanings, "mami, dame culito" (give me ass) is the way: "dame herculito" sounds.

The other song is vulgar and called Dominicano Asficcio or something like that. The guy calls his chica on the phone asking for anal sex and tells her to make sure she cleans her ass good, because the last time it had the smell of brakes from the car.

Greece is a fun place to travel to, lots of sex on those islands.

Chief Justice
06-30-10, 06:01
Muchas gracias! Those iPhone knock-offs are exactly what I was looking for. I would always see chicas with them while there but never knew the name of them. Glad to see they are only $50, lol!You can also get some phones here for decent prices:

http://www.ubid.com/electronics/cell-phones/?ellftlnk=1

Chief Justice
06-30-10, 08:28
Once you start down that slippery slope, of having the chicas dictate what gifts they want, it usually never stops. On your next trip she will ask for a laptop.

I had one chica who wanted a motorola razor cell phone, years ago, I bought her a prepaid one at walmart for around $80 dollars. I stopped seeing that chica.

My last trip I gave a chica a $20 watch I bought at Walmart and she was very happy. A few years ago I gave another chica a $20 Samsung cell phone, she still has the phone and uses it and I still see that chica.

I like to give gifts, but I like to give gifts on my terms. When chicas start dictating to me, that they want this model or that model of phone, it is a red flag. To me, I don't care how my cell phone looks, I am happy with a $20 Samsung phone.

For many chicas in DR, a cell phone is like a fashion accessory, like a louis vuitton bag (to me they look nothing special and slightly ugly). It is a just a status symbol.

I doubt any of their Dominican or Haitian boyfriends give them any gifts. Some chicas could easily give whatever gifts they get, to their Dominican or Haitian boyfriends.

It is nice to be generous with a person you like, but, be careful, some chicas will use and abuse a guy just as well as some guys use chicas.

It is your money (I don't like anyone telling me how to spend my money), giving her a $50 or $100 or more, phone may make economic sense, the chica might be very happy with the gift and stay with you for three or more days. So you might be saving money in the long run, rather than if you went out and paid different chicas to be with you for three or more days. Some chicas will factor in that you gave them a nice gift, but some chicas will still ask for money, even if you gave them a nice gift.

If the chica is hardcore in her demands for a particular expensive phone, then it might be best to walk away from her. There are plenty of non-high-maintenance chicas in DR, no need to have to have a greedy DR chica by your side.

These are just my two pesos, you are a big boy, you know what is right for you.Yea its funny, I was talkin to a chick who I never fuked because of her attitude and she had the nerve to tell me its her sons bday next week and can I bring a playstation for him next time I come down. I'm like 'ya right'. She told me she gets $100 us a pop in sosua. I was thinkin to myself 'she better get her own playstation'

Charles Pooter
06-30-10, 12:53
There are plenty of non-high-maintenance chicas in DR, no need to have to have a greedy DR chica by your side.

Absolutely. And the less greedy ones are likely to be more affectionate and stable and more deserving of your cash.


Some chicas could easily give whatever gifts they get, to their Dominican or Haitian boyfriends.
Anything resaleable is likely to be given to, or taken from them by, their local boyfriend or "chulo". Or sold for less than you paid for it to buy food for themselves and children or to pay the rent. This last is a better use of your money but better to give them cash in the first place.


Some chicas will factor in that you gave them a nice gift, but some chicas will still ask for money, even if you gave them a nice gift.

Very few will consider a gift as part payment of their normal fee. The rule is:
Give if it gives you pleasure to give. But don't expect gratitude or appreciation of what the gift is worth.

As ever there are exceptions to all of above but wise to assume your chica is not one of the exceptions. Then you might just get a pleasant surprise but don't count on it!

Westy
06-30-10, 13:20
Don't take them that shit, they REALLY DON'T DESERVE IT. Here are a couple of links to sites where I buy $50 IPhone clones. You can get about any clone you want, and let them complain if it doesn't suit. They can't use those HTC's and IPhones to capacity down there, and it's a lot easier to just hand them this with a small mini SD of bachata stuck in there and tell them to shut the fuck up and listen to their music.

http://gizmoheart.com/index.php?p=catalog&parent=12&pg=1
http://www.sourcinggate.com/These look like good "traveling phones" for the prudent monger, LOL. SIM it up when you get there, and you're talking ... at the end of the trip, "if you're feeling generous," you could leave it with La Favorita. Or not, if you're not.

(Meanwhile, your genuine phone stays safe in the safe, or safe at home.)

Ctclubs
06-30-10, 14:06
Great Report,

I have been to POP and was thinking about Sousa, sounds like you had a great trip. Is NG within walking distance to most stuff? And are there always chicas at NG for you to choose. I also was at BB and that was good but so far out of the way, was thinking about FOD but not a lot of info.

Thanks


Because of all the great information provided by this board I had a great vacation in Sosua. I cannot thank you guys enough. As promised here is my report.

I returned home last week from my second trip to Sosua. Flew Continental non-stop from EWR to POP and stayed at the New Garden again. The POP immigration officer held up a ‘tips’ sign after processing my paper work. Right, next time hold up the sign before stamping the paper work, stupid. Just my luck the custom agent decided to check my bags. But he chose the dive bag and decided it was not worth going through. He did not ask for a tip. The cab from the NG was waiting for me as I exited the terminal. The NG is in the process of renovating rooms and just in time. The ceiling panel in my bathroom fell down and the door to the refrigerator cabinet was falling off. The pool could also use a face lift. But the new restaurant is great and the NG in my opinion is still the place to stay and play. The NG was dead on Sunday (no Chicas at all) because the owner was having a family party. The rest of the week started out slow but by Wednesday the place was hopping. I had a good time the first trip but had a better time this trip. An understanding of how the game is played gave me more confidence and a better game plan.

Basic Routine:

I spent the afternoons diving, arriving back at the NG around 5pm. After a quick shower and a beer I would select a house girl for a ST session followed by a nap and them a late dinner. By 11pm I would be out looking for a TLN. I was very lucky this trip. My selections were drama free and provided agreed upon services which ranged from acceptable to excellent. Maybe my success was the result of staying out of Classicos and off the strip as much as possible.

I also found out most of the chicas love toys. My small vibrating dildo and a magic wand were very popular. The key is to keep the size of the toys reasonable so they are not intimidating and to introduce them slowly.

My favorite routine was to get the chica comfortable (naked) in one of my t-shirts and enjoy a few drinks/beers on the balcony while listing to music. From there it was to the shower then to bed for round one. Followed a trip to the strip for some food. After a nice snack on the balcony on to round two then some sweet dreams. Often a bonus round would be delivered in the morning.

New Garden Girls

Had a NG chica most afternoons/early evenings. I don’t remember most of their names or what we actually did but they must have provided acceptable service because I don’t remember getting pissed at any of them.

Vicky, I do remember and had two sessions with her. She was a nice MILF who spoke some English and gave a great BBBJCIM. She liked her pussy and boobs played with but was ticklish when stroked anywhere else. She enjoyed the magic wand but had to have control of it. She sucked me as she use the wand on herself. The more excited she got the better job she did.

I spent a lot of time with Jessica last year & decide to give her a try again. Jessica is all business and has all kinds of ‘up sells’ to extract extra pesos out of you. This time while we were in the middle of a nice fuck when she asked if I want her ass and what I’m was willing to pay for it. Not a good time to open up negotiations. I like anal but she asked for 3,000 and I bet by the time we were done it would have cost me more so I took a pass. I did not even counter offer. Jessica did try her best but could not get the job done. We even used the dildo in my ass while she blew me. Eventually I paid her to leave.

Margareta

Information from this board indicated that Bar Central was a popular hangout for Haitian chicas. I always wanted to try one so I stopped in Monday night. Cool bar run by a German with great rock and roll videos playing and 80 pesos beers. Before I had a chance to scope out a Haitian, Margareta a cute Dominican was all over me. Her English was as good and my Spanish, none existent but she was sweet, playful and very determined to get me interested. She succeeded & I spent 4 nights with her. Margareta is new to the business (did not know what she was doing but took instruction well), is illiterate (could use the translator), needs the money (poorly dressed, several kids and a ring on her left hand fourth finger), not great at giving head but loves to fuck and enjoys spending time away from her shitty life. By the time she took care of family business and got to Sosua she was tired and hungry but she still treated me like a king. What she like at night was time to relax, some food, a few quick climaxes and sleep. But in the morning this girl could not give or get enough sex. She was a real morning person.

The first night Margareta was sitting on the bed while I looked for some music on the TV. When I sat down and leaned back against her she noticed the black heads on my back. The next thing I know she had me laying on my stomach while she picked at my back. When I had enough a quick shower was in order before the fun began. I had to take the lead but by the time I kissed and stroked my way down to her ‘Y’ she was very wet and only required a little tongue action to reach the first ‘O’. Margareta like the rest of the girls I meet loved oral sex and were very responsive. Anyway I decided it would be a good time to introduce the magic wand. So I grabbed it off the night table turned it on low & touched her chest just above the breasts. Big mistake. Margareta flew off the bed. She had no idea what happen and started to panic. It took quite awhile to claim her down & get her back on the bed. This time I showed her the wand and let her examine it. I turned it on and ran it up and down my arm to show her it did not hurt. Then I gently touch the back of her hand with it. She was hesitant at first but I slowly moved it up her arm and across her chest. By the time I reached the boobs she was hooked. Between my tongue, fingers and the wand she came many times. She was embarrassed each time she came and gave me a ‘wow’ as she hid her face in her hands or pillow. But she would soon spread her legs for more. The problem was my timing. By the time I was ready this girl was done. And I mean DONE. She crawled up into a ball and basically passed out. Lesson learned: ‘get yours first’. About 7:30am the next morning a freshly showered Margareta is waking me up and wants to play. While we were playing she answered her phone several times. I believe she did not expect to stay until late morning and had not arranged for proper child care. But she did not leaving until we both got off.

The next night I’m headed to the strip when a chica comes up & starts hitting me. I pushed her away, said I’m meeting my amigos and kept walking. By the time I rounded the corner she is back on me this time asking ‘no remember?, no remember?’. I had no clue who she was until I look down and recognized the blouse. It was Margareta in the same blouse with the big gold bars across the front she had on the prior night. What changed was her hair. She went from long curls with brown high lights to straight black hair. Back at the NG she strips down, puts on the t-sheet and starts empting the contents of her large hand bag. It was obvious that she was prepared to spend the night & would not be in any hurry to leave in the morning. She even brought a hair net to sleep in. While we were having drinks on the baloney Margareta started to massage my feet & saw the huge broken blister on the ball of my right foot. The next thing I knew she was cleaning it out and wanted scissors to cut way the dead skin. The girl was gentle and did a good job. When she was done off to the shower we went and then to bed for fun time. This time I made sure I got off before grabbing the magic wand. When we were done Margareta indicated she was hungry and wanted to go out for food. At 2:30am I did not think it was possible but was willing to give it a go. The restaurants were closed but she got us a couple of nice chicken sandwiches from a street vendor. We ate our meal on the balcony then played with the toys one more time before going to sleep. And I was right Margareta was in no hurry to leave in the morning. She would not stay for breakfast but it was after 10am when she left.

I don’t recall how I hooked up with Margareta for the third time but she somehow found me. We were both exhausted so the night consisted of a drink on the balcony and sleep. But the next morning she was ready to go again and again.

On Friday night the NG had a BBQ. 500 pesos for guest, 250 for accompanied chicas and it was good. The place was pack with chicas looking for a free meal and it would have been a lot of fun if the rain held off. When I got in line there was this cute chica with huge boobs standing by the corner of the bar trying to stay dry and looking miserable. I felt sorry for the girl & when I asked if she would like dinner her personality light right up. We joined a guy from NYC and his girl for a pleasant dinner. Shortly after 10pm in strolls Margareta. When she saw the other chica I could not decide if she was going to cry or go ballistic. She went on about meeting at 10pm and the other chica. I actually did not realize it was past 10 and played dumb. I offer her a seat between me and the guy from NYC. She quickly dragged the chair around me and sat between me and the other chica. It was quite a show with Margareta pissed at me but not wanting to push too hard and the other chica trying to protect her investment. After a bit I decided to defuse the situation and took Margareta to Bar Central. The videos were not playing and Margareta wanted something to eat so we went to a small Italian restaurant on the strip where her friend worked. I was not hungry but she had a nice bowel of pasta with meat sauce for 250 pesos. Once she was feed and watered all was well and back to the room we went for another incredible night and morning.

I would have kept Margareta for a fifth night but things got too personal. She started talking about the cost of milk and showed me how she needed new shoes. I did not want to hear about her problems so it was time for her to go.

La Passions

La Passions is a great bar and the ladies are top notch. Don’t think you could go wrong with any of the La Passion girls. You pay a premium but get a drama free, first class lady who will keep her end of the deal.

The first night I introduced myself to Peter & he introduced me to the bar manager. Don’t remember the manager’s name but she was great. Really looked after the interest of the bar, girls and customers. She was always around making sure everyone was happy and getting a fair deal. I asked her to set me up with a lady who spoke English. So she brings over Anabel. After a bit of flirting Anabel shows me the menu. When I pointed to the take out option she was all smiles. A nice easy night laid ahead for her. After she changed we sat at the bar and chatted with some of the girls. There was no hurry Anabel was off duty and I was enjoying the attention.

Back at the NG Anabel was great. BBBJ, DFKing, full service in any position and she happily took a pounding. Unfortunately she does not like toys but was very responsive to DATY and inserted fingers. In the morning she was a bit reluctant to put out but an offer of breakfast quickly changed her attitude.

A couple of nights later I want back to La Passions looking for Anabel. She was not working but the bar manager offered to call her. Did not sound like a good idea so I asked her to introduce me to someone else who spoke English. Samira was the lady she brought over. Samira was charming. Unfortunately timing was not in our favor. I wanted the 2,500 midnight take out price and but she was going off duty before midnight. So she introduced me to Kimberly. Kimberly was a tall stunner, universality educated, spoke English and was new to the business. Back at the NG she was great. She even grabbed the toys off the night stand and wanted to know how to use them. They were such a big hit she wanted to keep them. By morning I had had enough so we had a late breakfast and said our good-byes.

My last night in Sosua I went back to La Passions. Before I could get the attention of the bar manager Emely came by to say hello. Emely spoke no English but was cute and playful. Things were going good when Anabel appeared. Now I had a hard decision to make. Luckily Emely saw I was favoring Anabel and gracefully disappeared. Back at the new NG I followed my usual routine, got comfortable, relaxed with drinks on the balcony, showered and the games began. We finished round one with me standing and Anabel in the doggie position at the edge of the bed. Anabel rode me long and hard with her ass like only a dancer could. When we were done I asked if she was hungry which of course she was. So off to the strip we went for food. After a nice meal on the balcony round two consisted of an oral fest. I had nothing left in the morning so we had breakfast, said our good-bys and I packed for the trip to the airport.

Food

I ate a late breakfast every morning at the NG and skipped lunch. I had over priced ribs at Rocky’s one night and sampled the BBQ at the NG. I also tried the Scotch 'N' Sirloin Restaurant at the Terra Linda hotel. It was ok put pricy. The rest of the week I ate at the Casa Valeria. For 600 pesos I got an excellent dinner and drink served in a comfortable and relaxed environment. A couple of locals recommended the restaurant at the Hotel Orchidee. Maybe I’ll try it next time but the entrance does not look very appealing.

I also had several good late night snacks from the street vendors. The best way to deal with the vendors is to let your chica chose the vendor. Tell her to order whatever she wants but order two. Give her a couple hundred pesos and stand back. She’ll return with a great cheap snack.

Money:

The exchange shop around the corner from the Happy Bar on Duarte was giving 36.5 pesos to the dollar. Nice clean secure place. The street guys were giving 36 pesos’ to the dollar.

Beach:

After checking into the NG Sunday afternoon & running a few errands I headed to the beach. After walking up and down looking for all the places I read about I spent the rest of the afternoon at the Scandinavian beach bar nursing a few beers while watching the world past by. This was my first and only venture to the beach.

Diving:

I wanted to use Scuba Elite again this year but when I walk by on the way to the beach on Sunday they were closed. Monday afternoon I stopped by with my gear but Kerri was taking her son to the airport and was not running a trip. So I walk down the street and tried Northern Coast Diving. Dove two days with them and it was a disaster. They are a large commercial operation who mixed snorkelers, student divers and divers of mixed experience all on the same boat. I spent more time floating on the surface them I did on the bottom. It took forever to get everyone in and down and when the first newbie blew through their air the whole group had to surface. I went back to Scuba Elite the third day. Kerri runs a great boutique shop. Her male partner and dive master moved on so she now is a one women shop but appreciates the business and is willing to work with you. I spent the rest of the week diving with Kerri and a pleasant guy from an all inclusive. The diving is not world class but you do not go to the DR for the diving. It is just pleasant way to spend an afternoon. This year I did not get up for the morning dives.

Motos’

I used the motos’ for the first time this year. They are a great way to get around town. I would just hop on and tell the driver where I wanted to go. When I got off I would hand the driver 50 pesos, say gracias and walk way. I only had a minor issue once and I knew I was going to have a problem before getting on. On the way back from La Passion this guy pulls up on more of a sport bike then a moto. He was also wearing a leather jacket worth 350-400 us. When we reach the NG I handed him and Anabel's driver 50 pesos each. My driver started going on about wanting 100. I just said ‘no, 50’, took Anabel's hand and walk into the NG. Off course having the NG security guard standing at the curb probably help defuse the situation.

Phone

I brought a phone from the Claro shop on Pedro Clisante just beyond Dr. Rosen. The phone with a 100 peso card cost 495 pesos. I purchased an additional 500 peso card and called the States each night & made several local calls. The waitresses at the Casa Valeria help me set it up so the menus and recordings were in English. The phone had voice mail but I never used it so I don’t know if it actually worked. It was a good investment.

Pharmaceutical Help

Last year I tried the DR version of Viagra and had a reaction so decided to use only the prescription versions this year. I use Viagra at home but decided to try Cialis. I took 10mg each morning and I was good to go all day and all night. It got me hard at the appropriate times but did not leave me with a ragging hard on when to deed was done like Viagra does.

Street Kids & Vendors

There were a lot more Haitian street kids this year. They are a sad lot; truly hungry, thirsty and real desperate. Problem is they are also violent. So far the violence has been amongst themselves but sooner or later it will expand. There were also lots of old Haitian women/men walking around selling all kinds of stuff from hard boiled eggs to CDs. They were not aggressive. I just replied no gracias to their sales pitch and kept walking.

Tipping

I left the maid $5 each morning and a small bag of chocolates. It was money well spent. She could not do enough for me. My room was made up whenever I wanted, she left a pile of towels each day and I had at least a dozen & half bars of unused soap by the end of the week.

I also tipped the security guard $5 every couple of nights to watch my back. I did not need his help this year but it was good to knew he was round and knew me. He greeted me every night at the gate, would keep an eye on my room as he patrol & was at my side when I had the minor issue with the last moto guy. I also found him to be a source for ice. I like to drink scotch on the rocks but was drinking it ‘neat’ for lack of ice early in the week. One hot night while sitting on the balcony with my chica I notice the guard going to the ice box & filling up a pitcher so he would have cold water to drink. Down stairs I went with my translator & typed in ‘ice’. He shook his head ‘yes’, walked away and came back with a bag of ice for me. I was set for the rest of the week. I did have a funny situation with him one night. I tried to explain that I was going to dinner next door and if Margareta came looking for me have her wait or send her next door. After going back and forth I finally got a smile of understanding and he starts to run upstairs. I thinking ‘shit, Margareta is with someone and he is going pull her out of the room resulting in some very unhappy campers’. When I see him coming back down the stairs I start laughing my ass off. He was carrying an arm full of towels. How he interpreted me looking for Margareta for waiting towels is beyond me but he was definitely trying to accommodate me.

Chica Prices

There were guys talking about paying 500 pesos for BJs and no more than 1,000-1,500 for TLN. Then they would start telling horror stories about the chicas, who would leave early, not provide the services promised, try to up sell, stole things or just went crazy. I wanted drama free sessions with pleasant and playful chicas and was willing to pay a premium for it. I gave the NG girls 1200 to 1500 for ST, Margareta 2000 per night, and the La Passion girls 2500 to 3500 with a 500 tip. I enjoyed their services & had no problems with any of them. When the girls went into the bathroom to refreshing up I would leave the money and a small box of chocolates by their belongings. I also had a traveling toothbrush/toothpaste for each girl. Mouth wash, cups and plenty of clean towels were also available. If the chica was hungry we went to the strip for food after round one. While we ate our meal on the balcony I recharged. By the time we finished the chica was happy and we were both ready to go again. I treated the girls right and they treated me right.

I did have a funny misunderstanding with one NG chic. I offered 1,000 pesos for ST but she wanted 1500. It was getting dark and without my glasses I could not see well. I thought I had a 1,000 note, a couple of 100 notes and a couple of us dollars in my pocket. I showed her the money and indicated that was all I had. Well, see looked at the money, said something in Spanish and walked away. I could not understand why she would not take the 1200 for a quickie. When I got back to the room and put my glasses on I found out why she did not accept the offer. I did not have a 1000 note, just three 100 notes. Poor girl must have thought I was a real cheap bastard.

Whoever spends the last night with me gets the ‘spoils’ in the morning. Anabel was the lucky girl this year. I gave her the extra condoms, lub, baby oil, body cream, tooth brushes/paste, chocolates, soap, mouthwash, & cigarettes which she appreciated. I kept the toys.

Budget:

Airfare: frequent flyer miles + $97 tax
Airport parking: 8days $75
POP Taxi: $20+$5 tip @ 2 $50
Lodging : 7 nights @ $62 $434
Food: 700 pesos a day $140
Chicas: 4000 pesos per day $800
Diving: $70 per day for 6 days $420
Tips: maid, security guard, etc $70
Phone: $30
Misc: drinks, motos’, water, etc $150
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total $2,266

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SavePros321
06-30-10, 15:39
Once you start down that slippery slope, of having the chicas dictate what gifts they want, it usually never stops. On your next trip she will ask for a laptop.

I had one chica who wanted a motorola razor cell phone, years ago, I bought her a prepaid one at walmart for around $80 dollars. I stopped seeing that chica.

My last trip I gave a chica a $20 watch I bought at Walmart and she was very happy. A few years ago I gave another chica a $20 Samsung cell phone, she still has the phone and uses it and I still see that chica.

I like to give gifts, but I like to give gifts on my terms. When chicas start dictating to me, that they want this model or that model of phone, it is a red flag. To me, I don't care how my cell phone looks, I am happy with a $20 Samsung phone.

For many chicas in DR, a cell phone is like a fashion accessory, like a louis vuitton bag (to me they look nothing special and slightly ugly). It is a just a status symbol.

I doubt any of their Dominican or Haitian boyfriends give them any gifts. Some chicas could easily give whatever gifts they get, to their Dominican or Haitian boyfriends.

It is nice to be generous with a person you like, but, be careful, some chicas will use and abuse a guy just as well as some guys use chicas.

It is your money (I don't like anyone telling me how to spend my money), giving her a $50 or $100 or more, phone may make economic sense, the chica might be very happy with the gift and stay with you for three or more days. So you might be saving money in the long run, rather than if you went out and paid different chicas to be with you for three or more days. Some chicas will factor in that you gave them a nice gift, but some chicas will still ask for money, even if you gave them a nice gift.

If the chica is hardcore in her demands for a particular expensive phone, then it might be best to walk away from her. There are plenty of non-high-maintenance chicas in DR, no need to have to have a greedy DR chica by your side.

These are just my two pesos, you are a big boy, you know what is right for you.
This chica was with me everyday for every hour my last trip and only would leave when I asked her to. Planning to have the same setup this go-around. Plus I get "extras" with her (not going to spell out what those extras are, but I luv my extras :))

But yeah, there is no way in hell I am buying a chica a laptop. I am a tech junky myself and I am not going to give her something like that when that money could have gone to a new iPhone 4G, MacBook Pro, or iPad. I agree with what you and others said; something as expensive as a laptop would probably just get taken, stolen, or sold.

Nacho
06-30-10, 16:38
thanks for the report. Sounds like a good trip, straightforward and no hassles!

Member #2041
06-30-10, 16:48
Sometimes I get the feeling that guys in Sosua need to be reminded that these chicas are putas, and not real girlfriends.

Jaosousa
06-30-10, 18:05
Because of all the great information provided by this board I had a great vacation in Sosua. I cannot thank you guys enough. As promised here is my report.Very good post, thanks. Hielo (hee el oooo) is ice. Almost sounds like yellow in English.

Helpmann
06-30-10, 18:12
Sometimes I get the feeling that guys in Sosua need to be reminded that these chicas are putas, and not real girlfriends.I get that feeling too.

-Helpmann :)

How Do You Know if She's a Ho? (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=996512&postcount=5214)

La Isla
06-30-10, 19:48
How Do You Know if She's a Ho? (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=996512&postcount=5214)[/QUOTE]

Haha...that's great. But, people always have and always will believe what they want to believe. The story is as old as mankind....

You may want to revise #7 to read: If she's barely literate in her own language, but speaks English, Italian, French, Dutch, German or any other language fairly well, then chances are she's a Ho."

Bravo
06-30-10, 21:00
You can also get some phones here for decent prices:

http://www.ubid.com/electronics/cell-phones/?ellftlnk=1

Oh SHit!! I didnt know those phones were knock offs! I dont even own an Iphone and I was sitting in Sosua thinking "who in the hell is buying these girls 400 dollar phones?" hahaha!! I never even knew there were knock off iphones. I will have to pick one up for myself! Does anyone know if you can use these phones in Rio and the DR?

Jaosousa
06-30-10, 21:49
And the less greedy ones are likely to be more affectionate and stable and more deserving of your cash.I agree, why swim with sharks when you can swim with dolphins.

Chief Justice
06-30-10, 21:50
Oh SHit!! I didnt know those phones were knock offs! I dont even own an Iphone and I was sitting in Sosua thinking "who in the hell is buying these girls 400 dollar phones?" hahaha!! I never even knew there were knock off iphones. I will have to pick one up for myself! Does anyone know if you can use these phones in Rio and the DR?As long as you get an unlocked gsm or cdma you are good practically anywhere you go.

Coolie High
07-01-10, 02:29
Top 5 Reason why Gringos try to change a Ho to a Housewife from another country

1. She's cheaper then a regular broad or ho in the USA

2 She's FINER and YOUNGER then a regular broad or ho in the states

3. She makes your toes curl. She's satisfy all your SEXUAL DESIRES. You know the ones that you have to check off your "kick the bucket list" before you die

4. She's CHEAPER then these broads in the States!

5. There would be no ISG forum without hoes!

So in conclusion GOD BLESS my Dominican/Haitian Hoes. I Salute You!!!

Westy
07-01-10, 03:12
Sometimes I get the feeling that guys in Sosua need to be reminded that these chicas are putas, and not real girlfriends.
Daaayaaammm, it's so long since I've had a "real girlfriend" that I completely slipped my gears when three of Blackbeard's lovelies came up to me on my first day and started feeling me up.

But I stand by my statement about getting an "I-Clone" for travel. And yes, if I find myself a "favorita" I would probably think in terms of "nice parting gifts" as the old TV game-shows called 'em.

Actually, now is the time of year that bikinis are going to be hitting the clearance racks at Wal-Mart and the like. And in the DR, swimming pools are a year-round thing....

Chief Justice
07-01-10, 03:23
Sometimes I get the feeling that guys in Sosua need to be reminded that these chicas are putas, and not real girlfriends.true indeed but there isn't anything wrong with having favorites. I wouldn't bring any chica a brand new Iphone but I may spend up to $200 on a gift if I know I am getting at least 3 days worth of some passionate fucking and sucking. Hell, it beats taking one of these american chicks out spending up to $100 bux a night on a frivolous date that isn't/won't go anywhere. If I have a condo, I put my chicas to work. Cooking, cleaning and. Well yall kno the rest.

Coolie High
07-01-10, 07:05
Because of all the great information provided by this board I had a great

I spent a lot of time with Jessica last year & decide to give her a try again. Jessica is all business and has all kinds of ‘up sells’ to extract extra pesos out of you. This time while we were in the middle of a nice fuck when she asked if I want her ass and what I’m was willing to pay for it. Not a good time to open up negotiations. I like anal but she asked for 3,000 and I bet by the time we were done it would have cost me more so I took a pass. I did not even counter offer. Jessica did try her best but could not get the job done. We even used the dildo in my ass while she blew me. Eventually I paid her to leave. TIME OUT! DAMN the jokes! Did you just say that you had a dildo up your ass while she was giving you head! I hope to Jesus mother and Joseph that was a typo. I'm a freak but damn that. LMFAO

Other then that GREAT report!

Chief Justice
07-01-10, 09:43
TIME OUT! DAMN the jokes! Did you just say that you had a dildo up your ass while she was giving you head! I hope to Jesus mother and Joseph that was a typo. I'm a freak but damn that. LMFAO

Other then that GREAT report!Don't front Coolie, you know there are some photos of you floating around sosua with a big dildo up your rectum. Lololol

Negro562
07-01-10, 12:08
TIME OUT! DAMN the jokes! Did you just say that you had a dildo up your ass while she was giving you head! I hope to Jesus mother and Joseph that was a typo. I'm a freak but damn that. LMFAO

Other then that GREAT report!

I am hoping that was a typOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooo that sounds like it hurt.

John from NJ
07-01-10, 15:42
I am hoping that was a typOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooo that sounds like it hurt.Not a typo. What can I say? I enjoy a prostrate massage with either a small buzzing dildo or a finger while receiving oral. The dildo in question is not a 9 inch monster. It is about 4 inch long and a little thicker than the average middle finger. It provides a great sensation. It feels like you are cuming through both your ass and dick at the same time. Try it, you may like it.

Alex Deuce
07-01-10, 17:47
Not a typo. What can I say? I enjoy a prostrate massage with either a small buzzing dildo or a finger while receiving oral. The dildo in question is not a 9 inch monster. It is about 4 inch long and a little thicker than the average middle finger. It provides a great sensation. It feels like you are cuming through both your ass and dick at the same time. Try it, you may like it.


OKAAAAAAAAAY! TMI!



Top 5 Reason why Gringos try to change a Ho to a Housewife from another country

1. She's cheaper then a regular broad or ho in the USA

2 She's FINER and YOUNGER then a regular broad or ho in the states

3. She makes your toes curl. She's satisfy all your SEXUAL DESIRES. You know the ones that you have to check off your "kick the bucket list" before you die

4. She's CHEAPER then these broads in the States!

5. There would be no ISG forum without hoes!

So in conclusion GOD BLESS my Dominican/Haitian Hoes. I Salute You!!!


Not to name names but a member on here, I love like a brother, had been going down to find just the right one to lay his seed for just the above reasons. Needless to say he found success and is relatively happy with her and his 2 Genetic tested kids (Got to check paternity with these ladies with all the mixed blood you cant know what your child will look like) in Miami Florida.. He is IKETurnerish and has no issues to date.

Member #2041
07-01-10, 19:02
Not a typo. What can I say? I enjoy a prostrate massage with either a small buzzing dildo or a finger while receiving oral. The dildo in question is not a 9 inch monster. It is about 4 inch long and a little thicker than the average middle finger. It provides a great sensation. It feels like you are cuming through both your ass and dick at the same time. Try it, you may like it.
We understand that you are lying down prostrate, but what part of you is getting massaged?

Coolie High
07-01-10, 19:54
Don't front Coolie, you know there are some photos of you floating around sosua with a big dildo up your rectum. LolololOoh I see you got jokes! Next time you go to DR I'ma find a midget for you that's going stick her whole arm up your ass while blowing you. Let me know if you like it lololol.

Coolie High
07-01-10, 20:03
Not a typo. What can I say? I enjoy a prostrate massage with either a small buzzing dildo or a finger while receiving oral. The dildo in question is not a 9 inch monster. It is about 4 inch long and a little thicker than the average middle finger. It provides a great sensation. It feels like you are cuming through both your ass and dick at the same time. Try it, you may like it.WOW so that wasn't a typo. I heard it all. Hell I'm now ready for a member here thatll step up and say he raw dogs all these broads and eat ass whenever possible! The Brazil boards already have a member like this while the Sosua board has a member that takes a 4 inch dildo up his ass while trying to SKEET in the broad mouth. And I cant forget about Chiefs midget. LMFAO

Coolie High
07-01-10, 20:09
Not to name names but a member on here, I love like a brother, had been going down to find just the right one to lay his seed for just the above reasons. Needless to say he found success and is relatively happy with her and his 2 Genetic tested kids (Got to check paternity with these ladies with all the mixed blood you cant know what your child will look like) in Miami Florida.. He is IKETurnerish and has no issues to date.Hey tell your boy to write about his Ho to housewife transformation. LORD knows I would love to here it. Haven't heard a success story yet so to me if one make it WE all make it.

After seeing my child hood hero on national tv breakdown and cry cus his wife took the house, the cars AND got another dude laying up in his bed like he paid for it, marriage to a woman in the States has scared the SHIT outta me. So I'll take my chances with my DR bonitas anyday cus I'm not marrying any regular broad in the states

BTW my child hood hero was Hulk Hogan

Bq Ribs
07-01-10, 22:01
WOW so that wasn't a typo. I heard it all. Hell I'm now ready for a member here thatll step up and say he raw dogs all these broads and eat ass whenever possible! The Brazil boards already have a member like this while the Sosua board has a member that takes a 4 inch dildo up his ass while trying to SKEET in the broad mouth. And I cant forget about Chiefs midget. LMFAO
Coolie I bet there are a whole lot of secrets being kept off this board. Everyone probably has a few things they won't post. At least minature dildo man tell it like it is. What they say, Don't knock it till you try it............

Vesuv
07-01-10, 23:49
Coolie I bet there are a whole lot of secrets being kept off this board. Everyone probably has a few things they won't post. At least minature dildo man tell it like it is. What they say, Don't knock it till you try it............Coolie High, the real "connaisseure"

Coolie High
07-02-10, 02:15
Coolie I bet there are a whole lot of secrets being kept off this board. Everyone probably has a few things they won't post. At least minature dildo man tell it like it is. What they say, Don't knock it till you try it.Miniature Dildo Man. ROTFLMAO! Yeah we all have secrets but something's should remain just that. A SECRET! Having a 4 inch dildo up your ass to get maximum pleasure is one of them.

Hell I sometimes like to have a broad choke on Mighty Joe Young til she's pukes on it but you don't see me telling everyone that. Wait a minute! I just did!

Too Jaded
07-02-10, 04:50
Because of all the great information provided by this board I had a great vacation in Sosua. I cannot thank you guys enough. As promised here is my report.


I'm a little late to the party but I just wanted to let you know I added this to the ROD thread. I am finally planning a long postponed and much needed trip and this report was outstanding! Thanks dude.

2J

Alex Deuce
07-02-10, 07:50
Hey tell your boy to write about his Ho to housewife transformation. LORD knows I would love to here it. Haven't heard a success story yet so to me if one make it WE all make it.

After seeing my child hood hero on national tv breakdown and cry cus his wife took the house, the cars AND got another dude laying up in his bed like he paid for it, marriage to a woman in the States has scared the SHIT outta me. So I'll take my chances with my DR bonitas anyday cus I'm not marrying any regular broad in the states

BTW my child hood hero was Hulk Hogan

He has on several occasions only to be shouted down. Actually, I know of more success stories than horror to be honest; especially when the age difference is reasonable. 50 year old dude and 19-21 year old chicas ain't gone work in normal society. What makes you think its gone work here. I can't do it. It's like marrying the team *****. You know, the chick that sucked n fucked the entire team while she was dead sober and loved it!

Mr Gogo
07-02-10, 08:57
Once I had a flight from Mia to Pop, and had the pleasure of sitting next to this retired attorney. He was an older brother who had a son attenting the you whom he wasn't vibing with. Basically he was an older gentelman with a healthy pension and alone. His monthly pension was 12k a month. He had a house in puerto plata.

Being I was raised by older women I learrned to respect my elders so I just listened to dude talk. The house was 1000usd per month. The girls mom was working in Santigo for two hundred USD a month as a maid. He decided to put mom on his payroll and do the right thing. He bought the property next door for 12k USD for his girl to teach her money handling skills. He stated his girl calls ten times a day to check in which annoyed him. I'm thinking he got some gold digger.

Well we get to Pop clear baggage and this fine chic and her mom come running up to him and grab his luggage. He tries to introduce me but she doesn't seem interested. This chic is fine, dressed in work out clothes and driving a M5.

Most Dominican chics crave attention, but this girl was focussed on him, oblivious to anything else. He invited me to his house for dinner, but I knew I couldn't accept because his girl was to fine.

So I ask myself, being he put mom on the payroll and set the girl up sweet would she fuck up?

After his third call I decided to accept dinner. A fish fry with mom and daughter treating him like a king. But I noticed the girl was absent not hanging around him and I. We ate, drank and had a ball at his pool/patio, so I popped the question.

How do you know that you can trust the girl when your gone? He said "if she fucks up with all the shit iv'e done for her and her mom, good ridense". He was old school but he wasnt a fool. Being he took care of the mom offered some trust from her.

The question is if your getting a big pension is it worth it to sacrice a small portion of it for happynesss? He did.

Coolie High
07-02-10, 10:57
He has on several occasions only to be shouted down. Actually, I know of more success stories than horror to be honest; especially when the age difference is reasonable. 50 year old dude and 19-21 year old chicas ain't gone work in normal society. What makes you think its gone work here. I can't do it. It's like marrying the team *****. You know, the chick that sucked n fucked the entire team while she was dead sober and loved it!Tell your boy with all seriousness to come back and re-tell his story cus Im trying to be like him within the next 5-8yrs. I’m still young with no kids but soon I want to eventually do the Cosby routine and settle down. Now I know the fellas can be hard on the broads sometime and for good reason. Some of these broads have more game then the Parker brothers. But any monger who has successfully found a sweetheart down here regardless if she took money for sex at the time should never feel like there going to get rip if they tell us there success. Hell a success story is what I want to read.

And yeah I agree with you the age part. If your 50 and she’s 20 then there’s going to be a higher possibility of shit not working out. But hey I’m no expert. If you think you gotta a chance with the broad go for it

Jaosousa
07-02-10, 17:03
Miniature Dildo Man. ROTFLMAO! Yeah we all have secrets but something's should remain just that. A SECRET! Having a 4 inch dildo up your ass to get maximum pleasure is one of them.

Hell I sometimes like to have a broad choke on Mighty Joe Young til she's pukes on it but you don't see me telling everyone that. Wait a minute! I just did!You younger guys just wait, as you get older you will have to get a prostate exam. To get your prostate examined, the doctor has to lube up his finger and enter your ass.

If a chica wants to tongue my anus, I have no problem with that.

TheDRman
07-02-10, 17:05
Yeh...variants of this scam are all over the world. Kinda funny how three of us here read the same post and immediately thought of the same scam. :-)

My variant is France and Germany. Always stay out of places that remind you of an American type strip club. You walk in, sit down, a hot girl comes and sits down next to you and asks you to buy her a drink. A bottle of champagne comes with a $300 price tag while the bouncer eyes you for a reaction.

A few of the boys warned me of this beforehand so I knew better. If you want to get laid, go to brothel and don't mess around.

Reminds me of a couple of other scams I know about. There is one in Puerto Plata (forgot the name of the restaurant) where the restaurant rips the tourist off for a $100 meal and a 10% "commission" goes to the taxi driver who recommended the place.

I made the same mistake in Athens, Greece when I asked the taxi driver to recommend a restaurant. After being driven 45 minutes we were so hungry we didn't care the menu didn't have prices -- I think I paid about $500us for a meal for three. Lesson learned.

I'll definitely be steering away from Club X.

The Man Tour Guy

TheDRman
07-02-10, 17:09
He has on several occasions only to be shouted down. Actually, I know of more success stories than horror to be honest; especially when the age difference is reasonable. 50 year old dude and 19-21 year old chicas ain't gone work in normal society. What makes you think its gone work here. I can't do it. It's like marrying the team *****. You know, the chick that sucked n fucked the entire team while she was dead sober and loved it!

I know quite a few local success stories. If you are looking for a long term relationship, you want find a chica who new to the game and hasn't been ho-ified yet. Either that or a girl on the sidelines like a bartender or waitress.

The Man Tour Guy

Bravo
07-02-10, 20:33
I know quite a few local success stories. If you are looking for a long term relationship, you want find a chica who new to the game and hasn't been ho-ified yet. Either that or a girl on the sidelines like a bartender or waitress.

The Man Tour Guy


Seems like a good idea, but you never know about the bartenders and waitresses!! I know a number of my buddies have fucked bartenders from some of the spots in sosua. Most guys think the girls arent working and never hit on them!

My own experience. I was getting along really well with the big titty bartender at Terra Linda. But after being asked for money on three separate occasions (Hair Salon, Nails & Sick Child) I am now convinced she is a former hoe, who is now working as a bartender! Luckily, I know the signs and she wont be able to string me along and suck money from me, while holding out on the pussy (Like she is a good girl). Next time I go to Sosua, I will just tell her to come to my room after her shift. When she shows up, I will be waiting for her wrapped in towel! Worst that can happen is she will get mad and leave and I will just go out and grab another hoe to take her place.

Coolie High
07-02-10, 22:03
After his third call I decided to accept dinner. A fish fry with mom and daughter treating him like a king. But I noticed the girl was absent not hanging around him and I. We ate, drank and had a ball at his pool/patio, so I popped the question.

How do you know that you can trust the girl when your gone? He said "if she fucks up with all the shit iv'e done for her and her mom, good ridense". He was old school but he wasnt a fool. Being he took care of the mom offered some trust from her.
Mr. Gogo I gotta ask and I know I might be a lil perverted but do you think your boy is smashing the mom as well. If he is I gotta shake this mans hand.


You younger guys just wait, as you get older you will have to get a prostate exam. To get your prostate examined, the doctor has to lube up his finger and enter your ass.

If a chica wants to tongue my anus, I have no problem with that.Now I have no problems of having a honey toss your salad while your about to SKEET in her hair. Hell having a fine broad toss your salad is HIGHLY recommended when you come to Sosua. Just remember to not kiss the broad afterwards.

Alex Deuce
07-02-10, 23:31
Tell your boy with all seriousness to come back and re-tell his story cus Im trying to be like him within the next 5-8yrs. I’m still young with no kids but soon I want to eventually do the Cosby routine and settle down. Now I know the fellas can be hard on the broads sometime and for good reason. Some of these broads have more game then the Parker brothers. But any monger who has successfully found a sweetheart down here regardless if she took money for sex at the time should never feel like there going to get rip if they tell us there success. Hell a success story is what I want to read.

And yeah I agree with you the age part. If your 50 and she’s 20 then there’s going to be a higher possibility of shit not working out. But hey I’m no expert. If you think you gotta a chance with the broad go for it


That’s up to him if he wants to wade into the jungle again. However, I know he is on ISG pretty regularly. A couple notes:

1. Why do we assume that it’s always the woman that reverted? Anyone ever thought that the monger reverted back to chasing? Roughly 60% of the failures I have seen this has been the case. It’s like the sinner complex. When they transform to repent and go straight housewife they become Catholic SuperJesuses and allow the monger no leeway in transgressions. A guy that is use to having multiple partners is even harder to change than the woman that did it to survive.

2. Why would anyone try to Wifey a Puta that has kids by a Haitian or Dominican? It’s the Baby Daddy Pussy in his and her eyes until or unless he throws it away. In normal society it’s a damn struggle. What do you think is going on here? The BF most cases are the Common Law or actual husband acting as her pimp. He allows her to prostitute herself to feed the household. Some may say "How can you tell she has kids?" Dude, if you bang 5 non-baby chicks and 5 baby chicks you can figure that shit out in like 4 seconds. It always has that hollow feel at the back and gets loose easily despite how it starts. This non scientific method coupled with the common practice of cesareans is a dead give away. Yes, I even find this hollow feel in women that have had cesareans. Loss of perineal tone is a common occurrence for all deliveries (Muscles around the couchie get stressed from holding back 5-10 pounds for 5 mounts and need to be exercised back into shape -OBYGN Uncle, Sorry I know pussy) Also, if you pay attention to her conversations with other chicas, it will become quite evident she has kids. (Spanish is important even as my conversational skills suck but I understand all that is said around me.) Else all fails, take her to the Doctor to get a physical.

3. Again, just like the guys in the Brazil forum, why do you think a hot mid 20's Dominican or Brazilian left alone for months at a time would be faithful; accordingly, why would you think after being brought to America or another country this same chick wont be hypnotized by the lights?

4. But to be real with you Coolio, there is something about the way a Latin Woman takes care of her man. At my boy’s house in Miami, neither he his son nor I are allowed to serve ourselves, wash the cloths, cook or clean the dishes. Nothing! Its some ole school Leave it to beaver shit. The mans job is to provide and mow the lawn both literally and proverbially. He got her a little BS job but she works longer hours (His mother keeps the kids) She goes and picks up the kids from his moms and rushes home to feed all of them. She gets pissed off if he comes homes and cooks. Until he met her he was the Team Chef that had mad skills. All I keep hearing is that She got a cousin! Tempted at times….Only thing that gets me is that the converted to Catholicism for her. I’m a Deist so as long as you are monotheistic I don’t care; however, in the words of Fred G. Sandford: “that’s some powerful pussy to make a man change gods”. Actually, most of the guys that married a catholic dominican that had kids do this.

But back to the mater of Sousua. I am still working on my google monger maps. Anyone, have any holes in the wall or must see spots hit me up. I got all the usual. Looking for off the beaten path.



I know quite a few local success stories. If you are looking for a long term relationship, you want find a chica who new to the game and hasn't been ho-ified yet. Either that or a girl on the sidelines like a bartender or waitress.

The Man Tour Guy


Was not Grey Dred and a couple of the old timers from this board very succesfull in making those transitions. The old crew on her had tons of great info and were very willing to share with no pretense upon what you intended to do with it. NOw, we have too many people telling you how and what to do with your money and Dick!

Mr Gogo
07-03-10, 00:56
Mr. Gogo I gotta ask and I know I might be a lil perverted but do you think your boy is smashing the mom as well. If he is I gotta shake this mans hand.

Coolie high you wild bro, nah he aint smashing ma dukes.But his chic was obedient as fuck.Impressed me alot but I never trust chics with my heart outside of my family.
Now I have no problems of having a honey toss your salad while your about to SKEET in her hair. Hell having a fine broad toss your salad is HIGHLY recommended when you come to Sosua. Just remember to not kiss the broad afterwards.I guess im old school but a chic even tries to lick my ass and I lose all respect for her.

Helpmann
07-03-10, 01:35
1. Why do we assume that it’s always the woman that reverted? Anyone ever thought that the monger reverted back to chasing?...I'm not saying it's the only reason why these relationships don't last, but it's rare to find a DR monger that stops chasing tail after he gets married. At the extreme, I knew one guy who used to fly to the DR every month (4-day trips) to chase tail, while his Dominican wife took care of the kids. He did this for over 4+ years!!


2. Why would anyone try to Wifey a Puta that has kids by a Haitian or Dominican? It’s the Baby Daddy Pussy in his and her eyes until or unless he throws it away...Nobody should "wifey" a puta and nobody but nobody should "wifey" a puta with kids!! All of these girls, who are selling their asses and are over the age of 20, have kids. Generally, this is the reason why they are selling their asses in the first place, to feed their kids and their baby daddy/chulo. The only way you can change the situation somewhat to your advantange is to impregnante her. I HIGHLY discourage doing this because most puta's make the worst mothers and the 18-year financial obligation.


3. Again, just like the guys in the Brazil forum, why do you think a hot mid 20's Dominican or Brazilian left alone for months at a time would be faithful...? [quote]When dealing with putas, don't take your dick out, because another guy will find his way in.

[quote]4. But to be real with you Coolio, there is something about the way a Latin Woman takes care of her man. At my boy’s house in Miami, neither he his son nor I are allowed to serve ourselves, wash the cloths, cook or clean the dishes. Nothing! Its some ole school Leave it to beaver shit...!True, so damn true! Shit, I remember one friend's live-in girlfriend practically washed and dried my hands before we sat down to dinner. They're some good girls to be had in the DR, if you stay out (way out) of tourist areas like Boca Chica, Sosua, Puerto Plata, and Punta Cana.

How Do You Know if She's a Ho? (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=996512&postcount=5214)

-Helpmann :)

Coolie High
07-03-10, 02:18
That's up to him if he wants to wade into the jungle again. However, I know he is on ISG pretty regularly. A couple notes:

1. Why do we assume that it's always the woman that reverted? Anyone ever thought that the monger reverted back to chasing? Roughly 60% of the failures I have seen this has been the case. A guy that is use to having multiple partners is even harder to change than the woman that did it to survive.Yeah its hard for a monger to REALLY settle down with one broad. Matter of fact its impossible for me to be with totally just one woman. Its not going to happen. So if I lose my broad from my infidelity, fuck it. I'll just have to find another.


2. Why would anyone try to Wifey a Puta that has kids by a Haitian or Dominican? It's the Baby Daddy Pussy in his and her eyes until or unless he throws it away.Damn so I guess I have no hope with my current girlfriend. She lives in caberate and her ex husband whose dominician lives in santo domingo with there 2yr old baby.


4. But to be real with you Coolio, there is something about the way a Latin Woman takes care of her man. At my boy's house in Miami, neither he his son nor I are allowed to serve ourselves, wash the cloths, cook or clean the dishes. Nothing! Its some ole school Leave it to beaver shit. The mans job is to provide and mow the lawn both literally and proverbially.Now that's what I'm talking about. Have no problems being the main bread winner while she takes care of the rest. Your boy should be writing us about how his broad fluffs his pillow as he leans back on the couch after a hard days work. Your boy is holding out LOL

Thanks for the knowledge. Its good to know that its actually possible to find a sweetheart in DR that you can settle down too.

Jaosousa
07-03-10, 08:43
I guess im old school but a chic even tries to lick my ass and I lose all respect for her.Not even the t'aint? the area between the balls and the anus, aint the balls and itaint the anus.

Laying on your back, chica down below licking your balls, you never had a chica go lower near the ass with her tongue?

The more hard core chicas will stick their tongue in the ass.

Oakie
07-03-10, 13:11
As you regulars know I got a "special one" who treats this older guy like a king. So do her family. With all that unconditional hospitality shown me (unconditional that is except for the occasional remittance) I finally invited her to come visit me this summer. Hey its cheaper than going down there and I know her habits well enough after all this time to figure we'd have a good time.

To recap, the deal is I give her a few bucks out of my entertainment allowance, (less than I spend on beer in a month, or a date, or a couple hours in a strip club) and she gives me a 24/7 wife, lover, translater wingman, anytime I want to go down there.

I'm like the older guy quoted in a recent post here who says something like "She has a good thing going, if she f...ks it up, good riddance to her!" I mean its a win/win for me.

Either I continue to get a fantasy romance, or she screws me at some point and I'm free to monger again in Sosua without having to hide from her friends/family.

Hell, the prospect of being free in Sosua has its merits. I could even hook up with a couple guys on this board and buy 'em a beer for all their good advice and support.

Anyway I send her ticket money tell her the date and wait. And wait! Meanwhile I'm asking when? She is going on as normal, with email etc, but no excitement about coming. Yeah, she says I'll look for ticket soon. But she's supposed to be here by now.

OK, that's it I stop talking to her, and a part of me thinks you guys are right, I've been ripped off. Then she asks for a little money to take her kid to family on the other side of the island, whaaat? Now I'm sure.

I give her shit, and write her off, and nurse my wounds (ticket money) and recall the game, yeah there was even a laptop and phone involved, classic chica game, and figure the ticket money went to some no good novio down there, who's now telling her to try and get more. It seems out of "character" for her, but who knows what goes on down there, and you guys were right after all.

But inside I'm smiling a little. I always had control, I'm free, and I had a good ride for the money, so now I'm checking out flights to Sosua next month. Back to square one, cold Presidente in my fave bar. Life is simple, Life is good, right?

Whoah, wrong! my phone starts ringing, emails and texts start flooding my cell phone, which I don't bother to answer. As I'm deleting, one message opens and I'm reading she's pissed at me because I told her "end of July" and she wanted to come end of June, which we'd agreed earlier and talked about when I was down there. She says ticket money is in her bank account and she is sending it back to me.

Checked my earlier email - turns out that I made mistake in tranlating June 30 and it came out July 30. Shit!

So I'm up here waiting for a month, getting pissed, and she's down there putting in time til I say she can come July 30. But, this novelo drama was caused by me, not her. Now I'm thinking everything that went down in the last two months WAS in "character" for her. Under the circumstances she behaved as expected.

OK, I say, lo soliento mi amor, here's a little something for your family trip and I'll see you end of July.

Meanwhile my mongering trip to Sosua is on hold (for now)

Mr Gogo
07-03-10, 16:08
Not even the t'aint? The area between the balls and the anus, aint the balls and itaint the anus.

Laying on your back, chica down below licking your balls, you never had a chica go lower near the ass with her tongue?

The more hard core chicas will stick their tongue in the ass.To each his own. But to be there laying on my back with my legs cocked, like a chic waiting to get fucked, as she tickles your shitter, takes away from me feeling like a man.

Funny story:

You know what I do for a living so we have to take annual physicals. Well this rookie is there(doctors office). He's 6'5 all muscles. He's bragging about all the special operation training he had in the Marines. He goes in smiling standing tall. An hour later he comes out walking slow with his head down. He looked like someone just stole his puppy. I asked sheepishly"what happened". He said"I got violated dog"and"you can't tell anyone about this" I say okay as he walks away taking small steps.

My turn and after 20 years they haven't got me yet. They keep saying next year and I say okay. Well the male doctor tried to be slick. He didn't even ask he just started putting on the gloves and lubbing them. I'm talking fast trying to slow him down but he is focused. I say you can do the PSA blood sample, he says thats not the most accurate way. I then say I'll do it next year and he looks at my chart and says thats not working again. He's holding up the gloved hand and I realize this joker has huge hands Damn!

My mind is working fast here, and I remember this little female doctor. So I ask him if she can do it instead. The lesser of two evils I figure.

Well she did it and I'm walking out the doctors office with my head down. I look over and the Marine was sitting under a tree shaking his head. He kept repeating"that shit wasnt right man".

Mr Gogo
07-03-10, 16:15
As you regulars know I got a "special one" who treats this older guy like a king. So do her family. With all that unconditional hospitality shown me (unconditional that is except for the occasional remittance) I finally invited her to come visit me this summer. Hey its cheaper than going down there and I know her habits well enough after all this time to figure we'd have a good time.

To recap, the deal is I give her a few bucks out of my entertainment allowance, (less than I spend on beer in a month, or a date, or a couple hours in a strip club) and she gives me a 24/7 wife, lover, translater wingman, anytime I want to go down there.

I'm like the older guy quoted in a recent post here who says something like "She has a good thing going, if she f...ks it up, good riddance to her!" I mean its a win/win for me.

Either I continue to get a fantasy romance, or she screws me at some point and I'm free to monger again in Sosua without having to hide from her friends/family.

Hell, the prospect of being free in Sosua has its merits. I could even hook up with a couple guys on this board and buy 'em a beer for all their good advice and support.

Anyway I send her ticket money tell her the date and wait. And wait! Meanwhile I'm asking when? She is going on as normal, with email etc, but no excitement about coming. Yeah, she says I'll look for ticket soon. But she's supposed to be here by now.

OK, that's it I stop talking to her, and a part of me thinks you guys are right, I've been ripped off. Then she asks for a little money to take her kid to family on the other side of the island, whaaat? Now I'm sure.

I give her shit, and write her off, and nurse my wounds (ticket money) and recall the game, yeah there was even a laptop and phone involved, classic chica game, and figure the ticket money went to some no good novio down there, who's now telling her to try and get more. It seems out of "character" for her, but who knows what goes on down there, and you guys were right after all.

But inside I'm smiling a little. I always had control, I'm free, and I had a good ride for the money, so now I'm checking out flights to Sosua next month. Back to square one, cold Presidente in my fave bar. Life is simple, Life is good, right?

Whoah, wrong! my phone starts ringing, emails and texts start flooding my cell phone, which I don't bother to answer. As I'm deleting, one message opens and I'm reading she's pissed at me because I told her "end of July" and she wanted to come end of June, which we'd agreed earlier and talked about when I was down there. She says ticket money is in her bank account and she is sending it back to me.

Checked my earlier email - turns out that I made mistake in tranlating June 30 and it came out July 30. Shit!

So I'm up here waiting for a month, getting pissed, and she's down there putting in time til I say she can come July 30. But, this novelo drama was caused by me, not her. Now I'm thinking everything that went down in the last two months WAS in "character" for her. Under the circumstances she behaved as expected.

OK, I say, lo soliento mi amor, here's a little something for your family trip and I'll see you end of July.

Meanwhile my mongering trip to Sosua is on hold (for now)Your the new Coolie High. I look forward to your reports as a did his. Can't wait to see how it turns out.

Alex Deuce
07-03-10, 16:51
Damn so I guess I have no hope with my current girlfriend. She lives in caberate and her ex husband whose dominician lives in santo domingo with there 2yr old baby.

I look at it like this; What kind a woman does not have her kids with her or her fam when divorcing while working for extended periods? The man should be working. How does he have time to take care of a 2 year old? Ever tried raisin a 2 year old boy? Its like dealing with bugs bunny on crack!

Thats always a bad sign! You never leave things of value unless you plan on returning to the holder or you dont give damn about the object and thats worse.. JMHO!

Hell, you know Game! I know your playin/tripping with fools by the way you write!

Back Down in Sosoua Beginning of Aug (work) and then Santo Domingo Mid Nov-Jan. Get at me if your planning. I got millions of hilton points so I will base there in both cities. Also, Been working LatinEuro hard for supposed "Non Pros" saw three chicks from GirlsHouse and Casa Modelos and bust out laughing. Got a lead on 9 that say they have no children. Nov-Jan going to be interesting. I plan on wifing up and enjoying the culture for a minute while working. I got short patients for BS so I am sure Ill go through evaluations of the nine!

Coolie High
07-03-10, 17:10
So I'm up here waiting for a month, gxetting pissed, and she's down there putting in time til I say she can come July 30. But, this novelo drama was caused by me, not her. Now I'm thinking everything that went down in the last two months WAS in "character" for her. Under the circumstances she behaved as expected.

OK, I say, lo soliento mi amor, here's a little something for your family trip and I'll see you end of July.

Meanwhile my mongering trip to Sosua is on hold (for now)Oakie, on a serious tip calm down. U can't find nothing that isnt there. Your steadily trying to find a fuckup in ur relationship and u can't find it. Now ur borderline trying to sabotage a good thing

And for love of God stop worrying about the age difference. The difference between Mr. Gogo's boy and you is that hes not worrying about shit. If somethings should every arise we all know you'll handle the situation properly. Until then be cool.

Don't fuck up ur success story. Where all rooting for you.

Charles Pooter
07-03-10, 17:58
I guess im old school but a chic even tries to lick my ass and I lose all respect for her.
You must waste a lot of money on toilet paper then?

Mr Gogo
07-03-10, 18:08
You must waste a lot of money on toilet paper then?Your one liners are getting pretty good Lmao.

Mr Gogo
07-03-10, 18:19
Girls I've been taliking to on HI 5 and badoo in preparation for Medillin.

Alex Deuce
07-03-10, 18:35
You must waste a lot of money on toilet paper then?

I also loose respect for them! Exactly after they finish!

Bq Ribs
07-03-10, 19:04
........Thanks for the knowledge. Its good to know that its actually possible to find a sweetheart in DR that you can settle down too.
Just in case you didn't know, you have a much better chance of winning the Mega Bucks Lottery than bringing a Dominicana to the USA. It just ain't gonna happen.

Alex Deuce
07-03-10, 19:50
Just in case you didn't know, you have a much better chance of winning the Mega Bucks Lottery than bringing a Dominicana to the USA. It just ain't gonna happen.

You marry Putas: YES
You marry Normal: No, % Divorce actually less than marrying an American

Its real simple, stay out of Sosua and the normal tourist strolls and find a normal Dominicana. ***** can stay with you all day she is a Pro w/no real job and no drive!

I live in Miami, I see the success and failures everyday! The failures have two things in common X HO and Age Differential! Remember, you taking an old Ho and putting her in a fresh new market.....She will be fugging out both pants legs the moment you pull yours out.

Real simple; You shop in the sewers dont be mad when you find shit!

Bq Ribs
07-03-10, 20:01
You marry Putas: YES
You marry Normal: No, % Divorce actually less than marrying an American

Its real simple, stay out of Sosua and the normal tourist strolls and find a normal Dominicana. ***** can stay with you all day she is a Pro w/no real job and no drive!

I live in Miami, I see the success and failures everyday! The failures have two things in common X HO and Age Differential! Remember, you taking an old Ho and putting her in a fresh new market.....She will be fugging out both pants legs the moment you pull yours out.

Real simple; You shop in the sewers dont be mad when you find shit!
It is my understanding if you are NOT a well established Dominican just no way will they be granted a Visa to visit the USA. Now the chicas who currently have Visas won't hardly be hooking up with anyone on this board.

You know and I know the only reason them chicas are in LOVE with us is because of the contents of our wallets. Yes there are few, very, very, very, very, few exceptions.

Greek Niko
07-03-10, 20:05
My main novia is a keeper for now.

She has her own car, has a professional job, has her own home, has her own cell LOL and never once asked me for any $$$$$$

She is 40ish 5'11 and divorced with 2 boys. We compliment each other real well since I am 46. I have been with the young ones but this one is real good to me. The only time she wanted something was some change at the airport to pay for parking. I grabbed all the pesos I had and went to give it to her. She said nooooo that was too much she just wants change. I put all the pesos about 4000 or so in her purse telling her hell I can't spend it in Afghanistan.

I hope to get an apartment in SD in Jan or so and won't hesitate to have this novia with me. Just have to finalize my miserable divorce first.

When I come in from the world I am at I bring some jewelry that I get here real cheap- $15-20. 00 for a bracelet, earring, necklace set in Silver. She goes gaga over it and me LOL and I also give some to her Mom and #1 Amiga.

And O yes esto culo es mio mami! And I always slap that culo!


The Greeks are the heros of sex! Otherwise, we wouldn't here those sweet words, "Papi, mi culo es tuyo!"

My Greek friends father was from a small village in Crete. He told me, "If you don't smack a woman once in a while, and fuck her in the ass, she'll never behave!" hahaha
Well, I'm not sure if I agree with the smack part, but the ass part works for me!

Alex Deuce
07-03-10, 20:22
It is my understanding if you are NOT a well established Dominican just no way will they be granted a Visa to visit the USA. Now the chicas who currently have Visas won't hardly be hooking up with anyone on this board.

You know and I know the only reason them chicas are in LOVE with us is because of the contents of our wallets. Yes there are few, very, very, very, very, few exceptions.

Dude! Thats all women that look at men via their wallets! Its the Provider Protector instinct! Just like men look for dem lips and hips. Natural selection is a biatch! You expect Dominican Ladies to be different?

EXACTLY!

Your making my points! I aint looking to import a Puta! Im looking for a Lady! She cant get a visa, she definitely s not wifely material. Personally, I don't want her ass if she cant minimally meet these requirements (a job, a house, verifiable family, a bank account.) Big red flag screaming HOOOOOOOOOOO! See Below. It details why they will and wont allow a visa.

OOOOO, want to bet they wont fugg with one of us? Speak for yourself!

http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/denials/denials_1361.html

Bq Ribs
07-03-10, 20:45
......Personally, I don't want her ass if she cant minimally meet these requirements (a job, a house, verifiable family, a bank account.) Big red flag screaming HOOOOOOOOOOO! See Below. It details why they will and wont allow a visa.

OOOOO, want to bet they wont fugg with one of us? Speak for yourself!

http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/denials/denials_1361.html

I don't need the Visa link. A chica meeting your requirements probably doesn't need or want you and also probably has no desire to leave rep dom. Seems the only ones looking to get out of rep dom are those who have none of the things you list.

Give me some reasons why a chica with a house, money in the bank, a car would leave the sunny beautiful island of the DR to be with you? This ought to be good.

How many phone numbers you got for some of them chicas living in Naco, Piatinni, Bella Vista? Not counting the putas you find online.

Bq Ribs
07-03-10, 20:52
......OOOOO, want to bet they wont fugg with one of us? Speak for yourself!........
I try to be for real when I post. I don't come on this board pretending to be the MAN and know it all. You travel to the DR just like everyone else on this board, to buy pussy........plain and simple.

SavePros321
07-03-10, 21:10
Funinthesun, clear out some of your PM's por favor.

As much as I want to chime in on the current topic running, I shall refrain. I thought we ended this one last month :(

Only thing I have to say is what Devin the Dude says: "Do what the fuck you wanna do." I am not one to tell a grown man what to do so...

Just pray that the idiots in Washington pull their heads out of their asses before we are all jobless because at that point we will all be sitting around longing for the days when we could discuss even having the option of marrying putas...

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/79-million-jobs-lost-many-cnnm-1248019835.html?x=0

Alex Deuce
07-03-10, 21:11
Give me some reasons why a chica with a house, money in the bank, a car would leave the sunny beautiful island of the DR to be with you? This ought to be good.
Same reasons I get normal bitches @ 6'4 300. I gots Money, I makes Money, I got a House, I live in sunny florida and to top it off I have a personality with Game. I aint a pimp but dont test me! Dont get the love of Debaucheries fuck it up for you.


How many phone numbers you got for some of them chicas living in Naco, Piatinni, Bella Vista? Not counting the putas you find online.
The answer to your second question is 4 ( A teacher, A secretary and two federal officers) You forget, I am a government contractor and my dealings put me in numerous normal social situations despite my shitty spanish.

I try to be for real when I post. I don't come on this board pretending to be the MAN and know it all. You travel to the DR just like everyone else on this board, to buy pussy........plain and simple.
No, you come as a smart azz! The question is: "why do I buy pussy?" The answer is simple: "Biatch cause I can!" What red blooded man would not? +70k estimated selling ass in the capital alone and its legal. I spend less on casas taking two a day for month than i spend on cocktails afterwork at Diamond, Tootsies and Da Lexxx in a weekend.Hell this simple than that; I AM A FREAK!

I like how you try to clean up your series of dumb comment at the end with an ignorant observation on a board about finding and buying pussy...SMDH

Bq Ribs
07-03-10, 21:12
I may be wrong but from reading some of the reports I get a feeling some guys may be thinking....... hmmmm maybe I will bring mi novia to the states for a visit.

When you have some spare time do some reading on this site.

http://dominicanstotheusa.com/forum/

Alex Deuce
07-03-10, 21:24
I may be wrong but from reading some of the reports I get a feeling some guys may be thinking....... hmmmm maybe I will bring mi novia to the states for a visit.

When you have some spare time do some reading on this site.

http://dominicanstotheusa.com/forum/

ROTFLMAO

Fellas, Just do you!

The experts a kill ya high er time!

Bq Ribs
07-03-10, 21:28
No doubt in my mind. You the MAN and when I grow up I want to be just like you.

Have a nice day.........



Same reasons I get normal bitches @ 6'4 300. I gots Money, I makes Money, I got a House, I live in sunny florida and to top it off I have a personality with Game. I aint a pimp but dont test me! Dont get the love of Debaucheries fuck it up for you.

The answer to your second question is 4 ( A teacher, A secretary and two federal officers)

No, you come as a smart azz! The question is: "why do I buy pussy?" The answer is simple: "Biatch cause I can!" What red blooded man would not? +70k estimated selling ass in the capital alone and its legal. I spend less on casas taking two a day for month than i spend on cocktails afterwork at Diamond, Tootsies and Da Lexxx in a weekend.Hell this simple than that; I AM A FREAK!

I like how you try to clean up your series of dumb comment at the end...

Riky Rapido
07-03-10, 21:40
First it is near impossible to bring a chica to the USA for a visit unless she has about 200, 000 pesos in the bank, a job, and owns a house. Then Immigration may consider a visa. I have been coming here on vacation for 5 years, twice a year, last Fall I moved here permanently. Bought a house and now live with my novia. She gets up early in the morning and has my coffee ready while I read the latest in mongering. I don't do shit! All day, everyday. Nuttin' except sit on my ass and wait to be served. I have never heard any complaints because that is the way roles are played out here. My pensions pay for everything including taking care of her 3 kids. How she kept that pussy so tight is a mystery to me. Anyway, I still have pesos left over to go out 3 or 4 times a month for extra curricular activity. Bring a chica to the USA? Are you out of your friggin' mind! My chica has never had it so good, I love her dearly but having been married before to an import in the USA, let me clue you in, once Americanized, they ain't worth a shit. Live here, find a ho' who wants to retire from working on her back, and she'll love you to the end. She'll call you Papi and her King, because' all her friends are dirt poor and wondering how they will feed the kids because the Papi ran off on them. She will never leave you because you go out on the side. She has too much to lose. This is a man's world here. Living here and loving it.

Alex Deuce
07-03-10, 21:44
No doubt in my mind. You the MAN and when I grow up I want to be just like you.

Have a nice day.........

Keep ya pimp cup empty, ill fill it with the game and learnz ya!

Honestly, each Dominica is different and want different things. You just got to figure they game out and look at the big picture of what you want and what they are mentally/socially/physically able to give. Don't look for a lady in a ***** house and don't think all Dominicans are Ho's. Vast majority are not. Socially and religiously conservative and faithful on average than Americans.

Whats so damn hard understanding not wifing up a Puta?

Bq Ribs
07-04-10, 00:59
........ I don't do shit! All day, everyday. Nuttin' except sit on my ass and wait to be served.........
LMAO, you my friend are living the life........... BTW, great post.

Bq Ribs
07-04-10, 01:06
Girls I've been taliking to on HI 5 and badoo in preparation for Medillin.
Damn, I get this funny feeling we won't be hearing much from you on the Sosua board once you get back. (see pics post #6231)

Mr Gogo
07-04-10, 01:16
First it is near impossible to bring a chica to the USA for a visit unless she has about 200, 000 pesos in the bank, a job, and owns a house. Then Immigration may consider a visa. I have been coming here on vacation for 5 years, twice a year, last Fall I moved here permanently. Bought a house and now live with my novia. She gets up early in the morning and has my coffee ready while I read the latest in mongering. I don't do shit! All day, everyday. Nuttin' except sit on my ass and wait to be served. I have never heard any complaints because that is the way roles are played out here. My pensions pay for everything including taking care of her 3 kids. How she kept that pussy so tight is a mystery to me. Anyway, I still have pesos left over to go out 3 or 4 times a month for extra curricular activity. Bring a chica to the USA? Are you out of your friggin' mind! My chica has never had it so good, I love her dearly but having been married before to an import in the USA, let me clue you in, once Americanized, they ain't worth a shit. Live here, find a ho' who wants to retire from working on her back, and she'll love you to the end. She'll call you Papi and her King, because' all her friends are dirt poor and wondering how they will feed the kids because the Papi ran off on them. She will never leave you because you go out on the side. She has too much to lose. This is a man's world here. Living here and loving it.Thats what i'm talking about keeping it real.A man wants to be treated like a king,respected,and fucked right.And who better to fuck you right but an ex punta who has learned to appreciate a good thing.I dont want some pretty,stuckup,dry pussy,moody chick thats always complaining.I dont want an educated christian girl from a good family.I dont care if every dude on this board has run a train on her,as long as she's been tested and trying to turn her life around im going to be her friend(never marry).Guys on this board travel the world slanging dick because they got pesos,but these girls trick to feed their kids and we look down on them when they try to change.Im going to open an ex-punta transition clinic that prepares girls for reentry to the real world.And half the guys on this board will be lining up at the door.

Mr Gogo
07-04-10, 01:30
Damn, I get this funny feeling we won't be hearing much from you on the Sosua board once you get back. (see pics post #6231)Nah Ricky Rapidos post woke me up.

He said he don't do shit but get fucked and get served.

SavePros321
07-04-10, 01:36
First it is near impossible to bring a chica to the USA for a visit unless she has about 200, 000 pesos in the bank, a job, and owns a house. Then Immigration may consider a visa. I have been coming here on vacation for 5 years, twice a year, last Fall I moved here permanently. Bought a house and now live with my novia. She gets up early in the morning and has my coffee ready while I read the latest in mongering. I don't do shit! All day, everyday. Nuttin' except sit on my ass and wait to be served. I have never heard any complaints because that is the way roles are played out here. My pensions pay for everything including taking care of her 3 kids. How she kept that pussy so tight is a mystery to me. Anyway, I still have pesos left over to go out 3 or 4 times a month for extra curricular activity. Bring a chica to the USA? Are you out of your friggin' mind! My chica has never had it so good, I love her dearly but having been married before to an import in the USA, let me clue you in, once Americanized, they ain't worth a shit. Live here, find a ho' who wants to retire from working on her back, and she'll love you to the end. She'll call you Papi and her King, because' all her friends are dirt poor and wondering how they will feed the kids because the Papi ran off on them. She will never leave you because you go out on the side. She has too much to lose. This is a man's world here. Living here and loving it.
This is an excellent point. I could see not bringing her to the States as an upside simply because 1. She already has a family base/support system in place, and 2. Your money goes a lot further down there, and she will know where and how to buy without getting you hit with the "gringo tax."

Granted, not every is drawing a pension, so the prospect of moving there for most at this point (including myself) is slim to none. However, I can see not wanting to be away from your novia for long periods of time, which is why most will opt to "bring her over." If a visitor's visa won't do then you might have to wife her (Fiancee Visa).

However, keep things in perspective. Plucking a girl from over there and bringing her to the States may do more damage than good. For one, she doesn't know anyone, and more than likely doesn't speak much English. Me bringing a girl here to Texas would be like dropping her off in the middle of the Amazon. And I live in a huge city! She wouldn't be out driving around on the roads because she doesn't know anything or where anything is, and also does not know the traffic laws. Leaving her at home everyday would get old very fast and eventually she'll begin to want to wander or talk with your unemployed (by choice) neighbor during the day...and seriously, are you going to go through all that trouble of bringing her over here just to have her working at McDonald's or WalMart???

So if you can afford to, it may be a good idea to set your novia up with a place on her home turf and visit as often as you can until you can eventually move there for good (which seems to be what the one guy did from Mr. Gogo's story a few post back). And get the mom, grandmother, or aunt involved. Someone that will keep her ass in check and remind her that if she fucks this up (by having other dudes in your home when you are not there) she will go from sugar to shit so fast it'll make her head spin.

Later on down the line you can bring her to the States for a visit...if only to let her see first hand how good she's got it over in her country and how fucked up things can be here. But she'll love the food and shopping, no doubt. We got sum good eat'in here in Texas!

P.S. Some of you know how huge the homes can get to be in the South. So if you can afford a $200,000 here in the South then I can only imagine what that amount fetches you in the DR. But if you are dropping that kind of money on a home in the DR then it is probably a good idea that you are living there permanently. A chica in a $200,000 in the DR would lose her damn mind and by the time you get there the whole family would be living there as if it was the freakin Taj Mahal, lol!

Alex Deuce
07-04-10, 03:10
First it is near impossible to bring a chica to the USA for a visit unless she has about 200, 000 pesos in the bank, a job, and owns a house. Then Immigration may consider a visa. I have been coming here on vacation for 5 years, twice a year, last Fall I moved here permanently. Bought a house and now live with my novia. She gets up early in the morning and has my coffee ready while I read the latest in mongering. I don't do shit! All day, everyday. Nuttin' except sit on my ass and wait to be served. I have never heard any complaints because that is the way roles are played out here. My pensions pay for everything including taking care of her 3 kids. How she kept that pussy so tight is a mystery to me. Anyway, I still have pesos left over to go out 3 or 4 times a month for extra curricular activity. Bring a chica to the USA? Are you out of your friggin' mind! My chica has never had it so good, I love her dearly but having been married before to an import in the USA, let me clue you in, once Americanized, they ain't worth a shit. Live here, find a ho' who wants to retire from working on her back, and she'll love you to the end. She'll call you Papi and her King, because' all her friends are dirt poor and wondering how they will feed the kids because the Papi ran off on them. She will never leave you because you go out on the side. She has too much to lose. This is a man's world here. Living here and loving it.

Its hard, I know FIRST SECOND & THIRD Hand but not that damn hard. The backlog is the killer and a screwed application is the death note. It has to be extremely specific and error free and most are chalked full of errors. You don't have to own a house nor have much money as verifiable ongoing employment suffices. If what you say is the case, you got a lotta broke as Dominicans in Miami and NY that caught a raft or something. Its a lie, the letter counts when congruent to the application. They check the Invitees stability to factor; Is this a reliable address to find the applicant if need to deport. They need to know you will be returning home is the key. The invitation letter must match the application. Invitees with apartments get red flagged as is not reliable addresses. Homeland Security is swamped as well as the state department they wont evaluate trash applications and they have finite to issue in a sea of millions.

Personally, i would never bring a ***** back. However,when kids are involved you got to do what is in their long term best interest unless you want them educated in DR but some are selfish and shortsighted like that. I would be living like you. Enjoying my life and all snipped up not to have to worry about kids. I got 310k left of 450k equity. Coupled with my investment, I could sell this piece and live like riley down there. Average Dominican lives of something like between 4,485 and 7,360 pesos thats like 150-200. I would yield that weekly off my shittiest investment not to mention if Social Security exist in 25 years. Hell naw! I would be doing the moving..

Ehunter
07-04-10, 06:03
I finally invited her to come visit me this summer. Hey its cheaper than going down there and I know her habits well enough after all this time to figure we'd have a good time.
Can you report about how easy/hard it is to get a girl into the states for your own pleasure?

Once I was banging this ho who was waiting for a phone call from this German guy she was stringing along. The Guy wanted to fly her out to Germany for a holiday but it was learned that for her to travel she needed to have a bank account with money in it before she could even apply for a passport.

Anyway, I learned the Dominican government was making her jump through many hoops just to allow her to travel.

As a side note this girl was fun. I would be there banging her doggie while she talked to the guy about how much she loved him and could not wait to be with him. Then almost exactly one year later she was still getting calls from this guy. She told me the same guy was just here before I arrived and just got back to Germany. So I told her if that guy calls while I am with her she was going to get my dick up her cootch. Funny how I did not get any reaction from her on that.

Then sure enough the guy calls not too long after. So I ripped open her pants, pulled them and the rest of her clothes off, and I boned her through all 30 min of the conversation without any signs of protest at all. Luckily we were in the room while this went down. Sometimes I would start to banging her with force and she would look back at me with a scowl because I was giving her away on the phone. I had fun doing this and even today we have this understanding that if any guys call her while I am there she should expect the bone as long as the phone stays to her ear. She was fine with it :-)

Ehunter
07-04-10, 06:12
Girls I've been taliking to on HI 5 and badoo in preparation for Medillin.

Medillin is on my list for next time too... I got a buddy from Bogota and he speaks highly of the girls himself.

Ehunter
07-04-10, 06:18
I also loose respect for them! Exactly after they finish!
Having a girl that takes the initiative on her own is quite a turn on. The whole act just makes me hotter knowing I got a real uninhibited WH--- on my hands.

Mr Gogo
07-04-10, 06:19
Medillin is on my list for next time too... I got a buddy from Bogota and he speaks highly of the girls himself.I'm going to do a daily post selectively.

It wouldn't be appropriate to post here and the Medillin board is full of arguments.

Be looking for my posts via pm.

Coolie High
07-04-10, 10:00
I look at it like this; What kind a woman does not have her kids with her or her fam when divorcing while working for extended periods? The man should be working. How does he have time to take care of a 2 year old? Ever tried raisin a 2 year old boy? Its like dealing with bugs bunny on crack!

Thats always a bad sign! You never leave things of value unless you plan on returning to the holder or you dont give damn about the object and thats worse.. JMHO!

Hell, you know Game! I know your playin/tripping with fools by the way you write!
Damn that's soo true. Like I was telling Chief the other day while he was schooling me up on game about my girl, I told’em I'm mesmerize by her beauty, BUT I don't trust it! Especially while I'm 3000miles away

But yeah if I make it down there in Aug we mos definitely got to hookup.

Coolie High
07-04-10, 10:48
You know us debating about should we bring a broad over to the states or not is pointless cus the reality is if you have the MONEY, DR is your oyster. You seriously can do whatever the fuck you want and get away with it. So trust and believe if you got the bread you can get the paperwork right and she'll be in the states in no time.

Now the question is how do each of us individually want to deal with theses broads and what is it that you want from a broad. Me I'm still dealing with the hoes cus what can I say, Coolie love these hoes. Now when it comes time to settle down with a main broad then best believe I'm not going to settle down with a ho. Now by all means if you want to give a ho a shot at being a housewife then by all means do you.

Treat ALL these broads from the sweethearts to the hoes like Burger King, "HAVE IT YOUR MUTHAFUCKING WAY"! If your order is fucked up take that muthfucker back or drop her ass off by the curb and go get what you paid for.

Jaosousa
07-04-10, 12:26
That is funny. It is a weird feeling. I felt like I had to take shit, when the doctor was doing that exam.

Prostate exam is important, prostate cancer it is a very treatable cancer if it is diagnosed early.

Penis is for liquid waste disposal, ass is for solid waste disposal. Not sure what God was thinking when he combined the liquid disposal pipe, with the make babies pipe.

Nice photos of the Colombianas. A few Colombianas told me, they enjoy anal sex. Anal sex seems to be more readily available in Colombia, I don't know for sure, just from my conversations with some Colombianas.

There are a few pay sites with many chicas from Colombia, who have webcams, many of those chicas will do just about anything on webcam, once you pay to enter their private chat, some will give out their msn messenger info, so that you can chat more with them and possibly hook with them, when you travel to Colombia.

Have fun in Locolombia. lol.


To each his own. But to be there laying on my back with my legs cocked, like a chic waiting to get fucked, as she tickles your shitter, takes away from me feeling like a man.

Funny story:

You know what I do for a living so we have to take annual physicals. Well this rookie is there(doctors office). He's 6'5 all muscles. He's bragging about all the special operation training he had in the Marines. He goes in smiling standing tall. An hour later he comes out walking slow with his head down. He looked like someone just stole his puppy. I asked sheepishly"what happened". He said"I got violated dog"and"you can't tell anyone about this" I say okay as he walks away taking small steps.

My turn and after 20 years they haven't got me yet. They keep saying next year and I say okay. Well the male doctor tried to be slick. He didn't even ask he just started putting on the gloves and lubbing them. I'm talking fast trying to slow him down but he is focused. I say you can do the PSA blood sample, he says thats not the most accurate way. I then say I'll do it next year and he looks at my chart and says thats not working again. He's holding up the gloved hand and I realize this joker has huge hands Damn!

My mind is working fast here, and I remember this little female doctor. So I ask him if she can do it instead. The lesser of two evils I figure.

Well she did it and I'm walking out the doctors office with my head down. I look over and the Marine was sitting under a tree shaking his head. He kept repeating"that shit wasnt right man".

John Gault
07-04-10, 15:38
Ha! This reminds me of this chica from Puerto Plata that I met on Hi5. I saw a bunch of pictures of her with different gringos so I knew what she was about. Sent her a message asking for her number and she gave it without hesitation or explanation. When I asked if I could call her when I come to town, she told me she'll be waiting "mi amor." Called her on Friday, she spent that night with me in Sosua. I return to the States and she and I are chatting every day on Messenger. After two days she has an emergency and needs $300. Oh, but she loves me very much, though! After telling her up front I'm not sending her a dime because I don't know her like that, she gives up on the emergency story. 10 minutes later she's telling me she wants to get her hair and nails done, but a new outfit, and throw a birthday party for her cousin but doesn't have any money. *****, if I'm not gonna send you a dime for an "emergency" why the hell would I send you money for shit like that????? LOL

I keep telling her I know what she does for money and I'm not the only dude she talks to but she insists she has nobody. I have discussion after discussion telling her how I'd have more respect for her if she were just up front with me, but she won't do it. She insists that she loves me and wants to be with me. :yawn:

Since nobody posts pics anymore, here are pics of her. She doesn't speak any English, but if anybody wants her number I'll give it via PM. She's bony with big, perfect tits and her pussy was so tight I could barely get in there at first.
Thanks for the photos, I mostly travel to Colombia, but the pic's you posted reminded me of a few Chicas I had in Sosua the one time I was there last Nov. Even though I think the girls in Colombia are a little more beautiful than the ones in the DR one thing that was great was a BBBJ was much easier to get in the DR than in Colombia.Matter of fact I almost always have to pay extra for one in Colombia while in BC and Sosua I almost always got one without even asking for it. My only problem is Spirit does not go to POP so it is a pain to go to Sosua from either SD or Santiago.
As far as the talk of bring a Chica to the USA, I think it is much better to stay with them in their own Country. From what I have heard it takes about six months before the Gringas in the USA ruin the new girl. They hate how good the new girl treats her man so they go all out to fix that.

Alex Deuce
07-04-10, 19:07
As far as the talk of bring a Chica to the USA, I think it is much better to stay with them in their own Country. From what I have heard it takes about six months before the Gringas in the USA ruin the new girl. They hate how good the new girl treats her man so they go all out to fix that.

Thats if you bring a Puta! Learn the Difference. Its beyond ignorance to say all Dominicans that mess with Gringos are *****s. Get out of the sewers before you talk.

You wanna know what happens when you bring over Putas? Look through BackPages, Craiglist or you favorite escort site around NY, Boston, Mia and Jersey (some passing for Brazillian) the faces that show up will leave you in stitches. Believe me, Normal Dominicans know the Puta's and can tell one when they see them. Dinner with my boy and his Wife is fugging Hilarious and scary at the same time. (Her damn Bros Talk to much)

The problem is the difference in the guys that are sport fugging and the guy that are filling missing sex needs. You cant get a girl from the Grocery Store or Normal social settings, your not going to get a Decent Dominica even if you speak perfect spanish.

Stop Guessing and Over Generalizing....

Helpmann
07-04-10, 21:03
...Believe me, Normal Dominicans know the Puta's and can tell one when they see them...That's the truth!

-Helpmann :)

John Gault
07-04-10, 21:16
Thats if you bring a Puta! Learn the Difference. Its beyond ignorance to say all Dominicans that mess with Gringos are *****s. Get out of the sewers before you talk.

You wanna know what happens when you bring over Putas? Look through BackPages, Craiglist or you favorite escort site around NY, Boston, Mia and Jersey (some passing for Brazillian) the faces that show up will leave you in stitches. Believe me, Normal Dominicans know the Puta's and can tell one when they see them. Dinner with my boy and his Wife is fugging Hilarious and scary at the same time. (Her damn Bros Talk to much)

The problem is the difference in the guys that are sport fugging and the guy that are filling missing sex needs. You cant get a girl from the Grocery Store or Normal social settings, your not going to get a Decent Dominica even if you speak perfect spanish.

Stop Guessing and Over Generalizing....
Lets see what you are talking about. I said bringing a Chica from the DR. I did not say bringing a Puta. You posted this- Its beyond ignorance to say all Dominicans that mess with Gringos are *****s. Get out of the sewers before you talk. Read my post again and you will see who is Guessing and Over Generalizing
I deal with both kinds and even that I was talking about BBBJ's in DR, I thought I changed the subject to what you guys were talking about earlier.

Negro562
07-04-10, 22:18
F all women. They are all just moist holes to relieve some tension. GET MONEY! I have never heard of a man that had a problem dealing with a fat money roll.

My rules:

1.) The best woman is also the worst woman.

2.) Even your sister wants to spend your money.

3.) She would fuck another in a heartbeat.

4.) There is no woman worth wilding out about.

5.) If she gave him some pussy it's his pussy.

6.) Women outnumber men 5 to 1 so, what's the problem.

7.) If she is hanging out with you and she is cool with me I most likely already fucked her or will be fucking her in the future.

8.) Whatever you want from a broad can be negotiated.

9.) The door is always open (Coming and going!)

10.) If she is sleep or in the bathroom go in the purse and jack her. She would get you!

This applies to all women world wide. Not just American and Dominicans. ALL OF THEM!

Alex Deuce
07-04-10, 23:06
Lets see what you are talking about. I said bringing a Chica from the DR. I did not say bringing a Puta. You posted this- Its beyond ignorance to say all Dominicans that mess with Gringos are *****s. Get out of the sewers before you talk. Read my post again and you will see who is Guessing and Over Generalizing
I deal with both kinds and even that I was talking about BBBJ's in DR, I thought I changed the subject to what you guys were talking about earlier.

And I said:


Thats if you bring a Puta! Learn the Difference. Its beyond ignorance to say all Dominicans that mess with Gringos are *****s. Get out of the sewers before you talk

Reading is fundamental as well as comprehension. Your generalization was that all Dominica young ladies (I.E. Chicas) are susceptible to the bright lights of America and the influence of the feminist. My retort, since I must interpet The Queens English, was that the Generalization of all Dominicans (I.E.Chicas) without differentiation between Putas and non-sex workers is overstated and does not represent the available examples found in multiple relationships, interactions and communities that I and many more have seen first hand. To use the generic term of Chicas exemplifies the direct definition of the term IGNORANCE (ONE LACKING COMPLETE KNOWLEDGE OF A SUBJECT) and Generalization (attributing the actions of some to a population of all)

Now, despite your attempt to change the subject, we find a tremendouse disconnect from the underworld of Tricks n Johns to the society of "Civilized Behavior" where most live. Once you learn to differenciate, get at me we might be able to have a civilized conversation.

Negro562, Damn ! But for the most I agree! However, you got to kove rhe go gettas. At leasr they bring puzz, Game and asundry assets ti the table.

Chief Justice
07-04-10, 23:18
Damn that's soo true. Like I was telling Chief the other day while he was schooling me up on game about my girl, I told’em I'm mesmerize by her beauty, BUT I don't trust it! Especially while I'm 3000miles away

But yeah if I make it down there in Aug we mos definitely got to hookup.Like I alway say, seperate the chica from her beauty and pussy and most likely you aint got shyt but a broad thats good for a fuking and an occasional meal. And that goes for most of these american chics too. A lot of us meet beautiful breezys and get mesmerized but at the end of the day she benefits and you sitting there looking broke and stupid. This is why I tell chicks in the dr and america that I want to be friends and get to know them. Fuk all that 'I luv you shyt' in the first 6 mos. Lets get to know each other without labels bc once you wear that novio label, thats when the lies come in bc they expect things from you and will lie. Lie and lie again to drain you. But when you do not have a label, expectations are whatever and in TIME you will get to know what your chica is made of. And that is universal.

I noticed a lot of chicks in america especially when I was in atl are quick to want to make your their man bc they need help with their bills and when I say I just want to be friends, they most likely run away from me bc I am not what they are looking for bc they want somebody to rush in a pay this and that. Same thing for dr honeys. Same shyt different smell. They will screw you, suck you. So called love you but if you can't get to the WU. FUCK U! And then on to the next. Its a game and you have to love it bc its played everywhere.

Seiko1999
07-05-10, 00:15
Mr Gogo,

What hotel allowed you to have 2 chicas?

Oakie
07-05-10, 02:11
All women are putas to some extent. It's a matter of degree. Streetwalkers and other full time hookers are at the bottom of the barrel, but there are many pay for play ladies, part timers, occasional income supplementors that lead otherwise "respectable" lives.

Back home if a guy has, or is in line to get, lots of money, "respectable" chicks will throw themselves at him and f''''k him in hopes of hooking in to economic security. Big house, big car, big company, big job - you know the deal. And yet these women marry into it and are treated with respect. They'll still f...k the chaufer or the personal trainer or the favorite waiter on the side.

Like the old joke, it's just a matter of price.

So the debate about NEVER hooking up with a puta should include her status on the ladder. Obviously wifing a streetwalker or bringing her back home would be a joke.

Having a relationship with the chica from the bank who is very selective who she occasionally f...ks for money may be a different matter. Some have to ply the streets, but some have more options.

And a Dominican chica may be more faithful than any woman from another country.

How many guys in the States can find a virgin to marry?

My 2 cents

Alex Deuce
07-05-10, 03:29
Negro562, I was on my Iphone and my phat fingers got in the way. My statement was: I agree! However, you got to love the "go gettas." At least they bring puzzy, Game and a sundry assets to the table. In short, I love a ***** that will grind for hers. A player just got to figure how to get on her team...Lets not even talk about the bi-sexual ones......OOOOOOO Mufasa!

Coolie High
07-05-10, 07:45
Negro562, I was on my Iphone and my phat fingers got in the way. My statement was: I agree! However, you got to love the "go gettas." At least they bring puzzy, Game and a sundry assets to the table. In short, I love a ***** that will grind for hers. A player just got to figure how to get on her team...Lets not even talk about the bi-sexual ones......OOOOOOO Mufasa!Ooh yeah no doubt. Chief said it the best to me the other day when he was like, I want a broad that BELIEVES IN ME. Not just Love me but believes in me

Now Katz we'll ask what's the difference. A woman that BELIEVES in u love you for u and only u. She's just just not in it for the economic comeup but she genually wants to be on ur team no matter what

A broad that Loves you well u can experience that everyday at Sosua. There are broads that'll make ur toes curl. But that's all she about. She ain't down with ur team. Soon ass shit goes bad she's gone

You know I'm starting to think that AD, Cheif, Mr. Gogo and few others was brought up on some old school Don Magic Juan pimp shit LMFAO

Alex Deuce
07-05-10, 14:18
Like I alway say, seperate the chica from her beauty and pussy and most likely you aint got shyt but a broad thats good for a fuking and an occasional meal. And that goes for most of these american chics too. A lot of us meet beautiful breezys and get mesmerized but at the end of the day she benefits and you sitting there looking broke and stupid. This is why I tell chicks in the dr and america that I want to be friends and get to know them. Fuk all that 'I luv you shyt' in the first 6 mos. Lets get to know each other without labels bc once you wear that novio label, thats when the lies come in bc they expect things from you and will lie. Lie and lie again to drain you. But when you do not have a label, expectations are whatever and in TIME you will get to know what your chica is made of. And that is universal.

I noticed a lot of chicks in america especially when I was in atl are quick to want to make your their man bc they need help with their bills and when I say I just want to be friends, they most likely run away from me bc I am not what they are looking for bc they want somebody to rush in a pay this and that. Same thing for dr honeys. Same shyt different smell. They will screw you, suck you. So called love you but if you can't get to the WU. FUCK U! And then on to the next. Its a game and you have to love it bc its played everywhere.

The above is *****101 in a nutshell...

John Gault
07-05-10, 15:34
Like I alway say, seperate the chica from her beauty and pussy and most likely you aint got shyt but a broad thats good for a fuking and an occasional meal. And that goes for most of these american chics too. A lot of us meet beautiful breezys and get mesmerized but at the end of the day she benefits and you sitting there looking broke and stupid. This is why I tell chicks in the dr and america that I want to be friends and get to know them. Fuk all that 'I luv you shyt' in the first 6 mos. Lets get to know each other without labels bc once you wear that novio label, thats when the lies come in bc they expect things from you and will lie. Lie and lie again to drain you. But when you do not have a label, expectations are whatever and in TIME you will get to know what your chica is made of. And that is universal.

I noticed a lot of chicks in america especially when I was in atl are quick to want to make your their man bc they need help with their bills and when I say I just want to be friends, they most likely run away from me bc I am not what they are looking for bc they want somebody to rush in a pay this and that. Same thing for dr honeys. Same shyt different smell. They will screw you, suck you. So called love you but if you can't get to the WU. FUCK U! And then on to the next. Its a game and you have to love it bc its played everywhere.
I am a older guy than most Mongers and I thought I knew a little bit about how to play the game, but your post about telling the girls that you just want to be friends first is spot on. Thank you since that is now an addition to my game.

Mr Gogo
07-05-10, 16:40
Like I alway say, seperate the chica from her beauty and pussy and most likely you aint got shyt but a broad thats good for a fuking and an occasional meal. And that goes for most of these american chics too. A lot of us meet beautiful breezys and get mesmerized but at the end of the day she benefits and you sitting there looking broke and stupid. This is why I tell chicks in the dr and america that I want to be friends and get to know them. Fuk all that 'I luv you shyt' in the first 6 mos. Lets get to know each other without labels bc once you wear that novio label, thats when the lies come in bc they expect things from you and will lie. Lie and lie again to drain you. But when you do not have a label, expectations are whatever and in TIME you will get to know what your chica is made of. And that is universal.

I noticed a lot of chicks in america especially when I was in atl are quick to want to make your their man bc they need help with their bills and when I say I just want to be friends, they most likely run away from me bc I am not what they are looking for bc they want somebody to rush in a pay this and that. Same thing for dr honeys. Same shyt different smell. They will screw you, suck you. So called love you but if you can't get to the WU. FUCK U! And then on to the next. Its a game and you have to love it bc its played everywhere.You are right, a chic in the DR will probaly give you some ass if you say you love her or want to be her friend. But most women believe in a guy riding up on a white horse and riding away with her into the sunset(romance). If you say you want to be her friend she loses this fantasy and degrades you to the "bullshit guy". Every guy she passes on the street wants to be her friend and fuck. I want her to think i'm "the one". She plays her game i play mine. By saying you want friendship your thowing your trump card away. Understand were talking about young chics that still believe in love,why not use that to your advantage?

In the states it's a totally different playing field. I dont trust none of these tricks here. We dont have the upper hand. So i play the "i just want to be friends role" that way they know i just want a piece of ass nothing else. You cant play on their need for romance here because the consequences are serious. Chics here are not going to let you out of a 'relationship" without payback.

Back in the day i could tell a chic"I'ts not you i have to find myself" and dip. That shit dont work anymore,chics want to fuck my cars up,i gotta fight her brothers,her girlfriends look at you and roll there eyes,and momma is going to church praying against you.

In the Dr you can play the romance game because we can dissappear whenever we see fit. We call the game,make our rules,then decide if we want to keep playing.
But in closing,there is nothing like seeing the excitement in a chic when she see's you walking up,that friends dont get.

Jaosousa
07-05-10, 17:29
i am still waiting for some of the so called know it alls, on this board to tell me where on this planet a piece of pussy is 100% absolutely free. i am ready to buy an airplane ticket to that magical shangri la land of free pussy.

i have read posts here where some mongers insist that it is impossible to have a normal girlfriend in dr. my opinion, sour grapes. some guys for whatever reason can't or are unwilling to to have a normal girlfriend in dr, therefore to make themselves feel better they will say any dr chica who has a gringo boyfriend is a puta.

i am not here to categorize and label every relationship that may exist between a dr chica and a gringo. i am not here to defend every dominican chica.

i would love to hear a conversation between a monger who believes that all dr chicas who have a gringo boyfriend are putas and one of those so called putas. i am sure the chica would respond in several ways: 1. that the ignorant monger is too dumb to learn spanish and could never have a conversation with a normal dr chica. 2. that the monger is physically unattractive and no normal chica would want to be with him. 3. that the monger is disrespectful, rude and/or exhibits other anti-social behaviors that no normal chica would tolerate.

some guys really should stay in sosewer, it is the perfect place for them.


all women are putas to some extent. it's a matter of degree. streetwalkers and other full time hookers are at the bottom of the barrel, but there are many pay for play ladies, part timers, occasional income supplementors that lead otherwise "respectable" lives.

back home if a guy has, or is in line to get, lots of money, "respectable" chicks will throw themselves at him and f''''k him in hopes of hooking in to economic security. big house, big car, big company, big job - you know the deal. and yet these women marry into it and are treated with respect. they'll still f...k the chaufer or the personal trainer or the favorite waiter on the side.

like the old joke, it's just a matter of price.

so the debate about never hooking up with a puta should include her status on the ladder. obviously wifing a streetwalker or bringing her back home would be a joke.

having a relationship with the chica from the bank who is very selective who she occasionally f...ks for money may be a different matter. some have to ply the streets, but some have more options.

and a dominican chica may be more faithful than any woman from another country.

how many guys in the states can find a virgin to marry?

my 2 cents

Alex Deuce
07-05-10, 22:11
What was it they were presenting? Were they showing their daughters in the hopes for marriage so that the daughter could go to the Big PX In The Sky and send back some financial support or was it more of a temporary accommodation and if so what were they hoping for in return? Or were they just being friendly?

I have heard of similar things happening in Thailand but there it is a marital arrangement. I believe you would tour one of the more rural villages, find the girl you like, pay the father $400 and take your new bride with you. Not exactly my style but it works for some guys who just want a nice non-westernized spouse.


You pick one, fuck her over and leave boy its "Next of Kin" you know the film with Patrick Swayze. You best not never return to DR much less the village.... They expect Marriage or the very least a substantial Dowery/user fee! Its best to pass...This is a custom found in many cultures.

Oakie
07-06-10, 01:32
Ho is a degrading term and reading some of these recent posts, I can see how some guys may believe it is OK to be evil with a chica, because in their minds she is just a ho, therefore they believe it is OK to abuse her. Its not even about sex, its about power and abusing another human being. Sick. One guy mentioned robbing from a chica's purse. How low can you go. If an American guy in DR steals from a chica, that guy is a total loser.I suppose some of us have an optimistic view that we can change thei world by being human, showing them something different. It's always worked for me, but I'm incurably romantic.

Truth is the world is full of putas that will try to rip you off, and yes, guys that will try to rip them off.

It's the human condition.

Count me out of that.

I find life is like a mirror - ya get back just what you give.

BuleDaddy
07-06-10, 01:33
i am still waiting for some of the so called know it alls, on this board to tell me where on this planet a piece of pussy is 100% absolutely free. i am ready to buy an airplane ticket to that magical shangri la land of free pussy.



some guys really should stay in sosewer, it is the perfect place for them.

i have seen many posts claiming there is free booty in rio, bangkok, etc. but going dining/clubbing with non-proze leads to bad booty, drama and demands for more money because familiarity breeds contempt. better to keep it business like. even dudes from sao paulo have to pay to play in rio and us even more!

i would like to do some legit [CodeWord117] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117) (wind related), i like batchata (dr slide guitar) and the dr girls back here have nice personalities. i am caught between sosua (cabriete), dr and cartegena colombia. colombia has it's attractions but the wind is perfect in cabriete. i would like to have a nice massage and a nice "monica" after a day of getting beat up by the wind, and i speak enough spanish to get by. is there any available girls in cabrete? i mean ones that would give a nice massage and some extra similar to the other stops mentioned on this site?

any recomondations? you look like a person in touch with reality, so please advise!
thanks

Oakie
07-06-10, 02:12
Ooh yeah no doubt. Chief said it the best to me the other day when he was like, I want a broad that BELIEVES IN ME. Not just Love me but believes in me

Now Katz we'll ask what's the difference. A woman that BELIEVES in u love you for u and only u. She's just just not in it for the economic comeup but she genually wants to be on ur team no matter what

A broad that Loves you well u can experience that everyday at Sosua. There are broads that'll make ur toes curl. But that's all she about. She ain't down with ur team. Soon ass shit goes bad she's gone

You know I'm starting to think that AD, Cheif, Mr. Gogo and few others was brought up on some old school Don Magic Juan pimp shit LMFAOWay to go Coolie!

We all want the chica to see something different in us than the "average" monger. Meanwhile all of us are looking for something that makes her diiferent from the average puta.

What a f....ing mess!

But hey, that the fun in Sosua, finding out. Ya never know!

Frannie
07-06-10, 02:32
i have seen many posts claiming there is free booty in rio, bangkok, etc. but going dining/clubbing with non-proze leads to bad booty, drama and demands for more money because familiarity breeds contempt. better to keep it business like. even dudes from sao paulo have to pay to play in rio and us even more!

i would like to do some legit [CodeWord117] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117) (wind related), i like batchata (dr slide guitar) and the dr girls back here have nice personalities. i am caught between sosua (cabriete), dr and cartegena colombia. colombia has it's attractions but the wind is perfect in cabriete. i would like to have a nice massage and a nice "monica" after a day of getting beat up by the wind, and i speak enough spanish to get by. is there any available girls in cabrete? i mean ones that would give a nice massage and some extra similar to the other stops mentioned on this site?

any recomondations? you look like a person in touch with reality, so please advise!
thanks

the place is called cabarete. it is only a dollar ride from sosua by public taxi, but you can find girls in cabarete, and massage too, though you will probably have more choice in sosua. staying in cabarete is a good idea if you want to stay in a vacation hotel or apartment and socialize with other non mongering tourists, because you can zip over to sosua any time you like for massage and nookie.

Oakie
07-06-10, 02:42
i am still waiting for some of the so called know it alls, on this board to tell me where on this planet a piece of pussy is 100% absolutely free. i am ready to buy an airplane ticket to that magical shangri la land of free pussy.

i have read posts here where some mongers insist that it is impossible to have a normal girlfriend in dr. my opinion, sour grapes. some guys for whatever reason can't or are unwilling to to have a normal girlfriend in dr, therefore to make themselves feel better they will say any dr chica who has a gringo boyfriend is a puta.

i am not here to categorize and label every relationship that may exist between a dr chica and a gringo. i am not here to defend every dominican chica.

i would love to hear a conversation between a monger who believes that all dr chicas who have a gringo boyfriend are putas and one of those so called putas. i am sure the chica would respond in several ways: 1. that the ignorant monger is too dumb to learn spanish and could never have a conversation with a normal dr chica. 2. that the monger is physically unattractive and no normal chica would want to be with him. 3. that the monger is disrespectful, rude and/or exhibits other anti-social behaviors that no normal chica would tolerate.

some guys really should stay in sosewer, it is the perfect place for them.hay jas. i love sosua!

monger/puta is like the old joke. i'm looking for the perfect one, but why would a perfect one waste her time with me?

puta=john. i know, because i am a john. we're no better or worse than they are, hell we're actually worse because they don't pay us, we pay them! follow the money!

bottom line has nothing to do with puta designations.

all women are essentially the same. it's just that in sosua good pussy is plentiful and cheap compared to where we normally live. it could take years, if ever, to duplicate for free what we can do in one week down there. then of course we find it wasn't really free after all.

it's basic economics. long live sosua! and thank the gods it's there!

Frannie
07-06-10, 03:00
i am still waiting for some of the so called know it alls, on this board to tell me where on this planet a piece of pussy is 100% absolutely free. i am ready to buy an airplane ticket to that magical shangri la land of free pussy.

i have read posts here where some mongers insist that it is impossible to have a normal girlfriend in dr. my opinion, sour grapes.

this discussion never ends. it all depends on your situation. if you are reasonably young, attractive, socially well situated, and looking for a wife and you speak a reasonable amount of spanish, then of course you can find her outside of the lowest level of society. dominicans use the word "nivel" to indicate class or social status.

however if you are an older guy and you want a relationship with a beautiful young women, there is going to have to be a quid pro quo no matter where you are.

here in the us i am currently having a very passionate affair with a beautiful african american woman who is 30 years my junior and a bit less than half my age. she is a coworker, and i knew her for nearly 3 years before the affair started a couple of months ago. she is a licensed professional, married living with her husband of ten years, and has a child with him. there is no way on earth that she can be described as a hooker.

we have a very loving and affectionate relationship that is genuine in every way, and sexually she is probably even more enthusiastic than me,
yet she has hit me up a couple of times for $100 cash to help pay her bills for childcare and professional exams.

this is the simple reality of life today. if a woman is having a relationship with you, it is usually because she sees that relationship as cost effective. it doesn't mean that she doesn't love you or care for you, but if you run out of money you can be sure that the relationship will run out of steam.

i don't resent this, because it is asking rather a lot to expect a very attractive woman to be your love interest purely for the sake of romance and nothing else. i still think i am incredibly lucky to have her.

marriage itself is a type of business contract, so guys need to be realistic and not go around with mills and boon fantasies in their heads.