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Can anyone tell me if Los Balcones Condos in Sousa chica friendly?
............, for my return trip, I would like to have a hotel recommendation for Cabarete............ Any other suggestions?http://www.activecabarete.com/
BogieMaker
10-10-10, 05:17
Any other suggestions?Most likely not what you are looking for but I spent four days with a chica at the Kite Beach Hotel. I rented the one bedroom condo for $95/night and it was real nice and they did not mind if I had a young woman with me. There is a bar/restaurant in the condo complex by the beach. I liked it but the chica thought it was kind of boring because she wanted casinos and discos every night.
If you want a nice condo and are into or might want to try wind surfing I would recommend this place as a great place to kick back and relax. It is about 1/2 mile from downtown Cabarete so that might also be a problem.
http://kitebeachhotel.com/prices.html
Can anyone tell me if Los Balcones Condos in Sousa chica friendly?These are individul private owned appartments, but there is some common regulations. There are restrictions, but I think you will be able to bring in a girl with valid id.
http://www.activecabarete.com/Thanks for the link. This is a really useful site because it has more variety under the accommodation tab than at most US travel sites which contains mostly tourist hotels. This is great. Thanks again.
Thanks Vagabond, I'll let everyone know if it's chica friendly or not.
I am going to DR first time and like to know which city will be the best option for fun and all nighters.
1. Puerto plata
2. Punto cana
3. Sousa
4. S domingo
Or any recomendation. Usually how much is for all nighter in dollars. Is it mostly dark or tan skin ladies or white also.
Thanks
Anyone in the Sosua/Puerto Plata/ Cabarette area that knows personally a good dentist? I need a cleaning, filling, and info on how the whitening treatment works. Also pricing would be helpfull.
My regular dentist here in Florida is three months out for an appointment.
The new office had a special but you have to get exams and xrays as a new patient. Then after the exam and xray they will give you pricing then a cleaning. How can you do an exam if my teeth havent been cleaned?
Charles Pooter
10-12-10, 06:05
Anyone in the Sosua/Puerto Plata/ Cabarette area that knows personally a good dentist? I need a cleaning, filling, and info on how the whitening treatment works. Also pricing would be helpfull.
My regular dentist here in Florida is three months out for an appointment.
The new office had a special but you have to get exams and xrays as a new patient. Then after the exam and xray they will give you pricing then a cleaning. How can you do an exam if my teeth havent been cleaned?
I always use Dr Fredy E Lepe and have no complaints. He always says "If my work was unsatisfactory, come back and I will redo it for free." I am not sure if we should consider that as a recommendation or not, but I have never needed to take him up on the offer. It is certainly a most un-Dominican attitude. (My landlord bought a new top-of-the-range gas grill. Started to use it that evening and the top enamel shattered to pieces. Took it back next morning for a refund. Shop told him "That happened because it got hot. We cannot replace it because it has been used." Now that is a most Dominican attitude.
Maybe the answer there lies in Dr Lepe being Peruvian and not Dominican. He trained, so I understand, in Peru and the US. He speaks good English.
What I like about him: he has a painless drill and his prices are reasonable.
What I don't like about him: he plays sloppy romantic Spanish "elevator music" while he is working and, even worse, sings along with it out of key.
He works in a practice with four other dentists, some of them specialists in particular fields. Whenever I ask for an appointment it always turns out to be for a Tuesday. Maybe that is the only day he works. Or maybe he likes to clear up the fussy gringos first thing in the week (the whole place is closed Mondays) so he can relax for the rest of the week.
Worth having your teeth cleaned just to ogle three of the surgery assistants there.
Calle Duarte no.75 (corner with Villenueve), Puerto Plata.
Calle Duarte is one-way down to Parque Central and he is near the top end (Eastern end) so you cannot drive "upstream" from Parque Central.
fredylepe@hotmail.com
809 586 6666
Before you take me up on my recommendation I should warn you I am English. Apparently we have the lowest standards in the galaxy when it comes to tooth care (although I was unaware of this until I moved to the DR and started mixing with North Americans big time) so you may give my recommendation reduced weight.
Coolie High
10-12-10, 12:13
i am going to dr first time and like to know which city will be the best option for fun and all nighters.
1. puerto plata
2. punto cana
3. sousa
4. s domingo
or any recomendation. usually how much is for all nighter in dollars. is it mostly dark or tan skin ladies or white also.
thanksno disrespect but please rtff! the forefathers have answered these types of questions a million times in just this year alone. no one can really give you a definite answer on what place you should start at cus it all depends on your style. you want "the no worries and have everything at your feet atmosphere" then bb is the place. do you want to hit the strip club crystals and have 30 females [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) you as soon as you walk thru the door then tune in to puerto plata forum for more details.
are you an alpha male that can with stand aggressive females ready to conquer you mentally, physically and more importantly your wallet. they have the potential to make your toes curl and cause havoc breaking your shit all at the same time. or how about the constant begging from the natives, can you stay firm and say no or become a sucker. if your a hustler and don't mind the hustle then sosua is for u
santo domingo forum is blazing right now with wealth of knowledge. no doubt if you choose sd as your destination itll be smooth sailing cus the knowledge is up to date and accurate.
as far as the pricing goes for female to be honest there's no real set pricing. if your a "gringo that speak no spanish" then your going to pay more. if you're an o. g. like mr. gogo that's been to dr multiple times and knows the game and spanish your paying way less. if you live in dr like sir charles your paying them next to nothing. and when you can tell the difference between a gazelle and a tigre a mile away like helpmann you'll pay them in bikini outfits instead of pesos
as far as what the females look like tune in to mr. gogo in dr forum and check out the video mr. gogo himself posted of all that heavenly glory that dr has to offer.
John from NJ
10-12-10, 18:09
I am going to DR first time and like to know which city will be the best option for fun and all nighters.
1. Puerto plata
2. Punto cana
3. Sousa
4. S domingo
Or any recomendation. Usually how much is for all nighter in dollars. Is it mostly dark or tan skin ladies or white also.
ThanksSousa has my vote. I paid $55-$75 (2000-2500 pesos) for all nighters, la passion chicas $97 (3500 pesos). Most of my ladies were dark to tan skinned.
Take the time an read the boards. All important subjects have been discussed. Then come back with specific questions.
Anyone in the Sosua/Puerto Plata/ Cabarette area that knows personally a good dentist? I need a cleaning, filling, and info on how the whitening treatment works. Also pricing would be helpfull.
My regular dentist here in Florida is three months out for an appointment.
The new office had a special but you have to get exams and xrays as a new patient. Then after the exam and xray they will give you pricing then a cleaning. How can you do an exam if my teeth havent been cleaned?
I have always used Dra Yunesca Tavares, whose office is right opposite the Messon supermarket in the center of Puerto Plata, next door to the Jimenez clothing store. She speaks a bit of English. Is listed in the DR telephone directory under Dra Daysi Ortiz. Very charming lady. Definitely recommended.
I am going to DR first time and like to know which city will be the best option for fun and all nighters.
1. Puerto plata
2. Punto cana
3. Sousa
4. S domingo
Or any recomendation. Usually how much is for all nighter in dollars. Is it mostly dark or tan skin ladies or white also.
Thanks
Sosua. $60. Dark.
Charles Pooter
10-13-10, 01:51
Sosúa. $60. Dark.
--- Sosúa for sure until you build up your knowledge.
--- $40 to $60
--- from coffee to dark chocolate. White chicas are very rare there and either lacking in some department or command a big premium.
I have always used Dra Yunesca Tavares, whose office is right opposite the Messon supermarket in the center of Puerto Plata, next door to the Jimenez clothing store. She speaks a bit of English. Is listed in the DR telephone directory under Dra Daysi Ortiz. Very charming lady. Definitely recommended.Made an appointment with Dr. Lepe already but thanks.
Charles Pooter
10-13-10, 01:58
I have always used Dra Yunesca Tavares, whose office is right opposite the Messon supermarket in the center of Puerto Plata, next door to the Jimenez clothing store. She speaks a bit of English. Is listed in the DR telephone directory under Dra Daysi Ortiz. Very charming lady. Definitely recommended.
Messon supermarket closed three years ago once La Sirena arrived so I hope this lady is still around these days. If so, a useful recommendation. There are three Tienda Jiménez stores in Puerto Plata, Frannie means the main one (not the one next to Caribe Tours).
Hi,
Does anyone have a list of massage parlors with happy endings?
I know Passions does the massage/soapy thing but do others?
Thanks,
Kaiju
I have always used Dra Yunesca Tavares, whose office is right opposite the Messon supermarket in the center of Puerto Plata, next door to the Jimenez clothing store. She speaks a bit of English. Is listed in the DR telephone directory under Dra Daysi Ortiz. Very charming lady. Definitely recommended.Made an appointment with Dr. Lepe already but thanks.
Charles Pooter
10-13-10, 02:09
If you live in DR like Sir Charles your paying them next to nothing.
I wish! But you're right. When one has fuck all to do all day except ogle at chicas, and an ever diminishing sex-drive makes making a decision a lot less urgent than it used to be, one can wait for a bargain to fall into your groin.
Good post, by the way, CH. The OP's level of Spanish is the vital missing data. "Nil" or "Beginners", it has got to be Blackbeards or Sosúa now Field of Dreams is no longer an option (pause here to weep a tear). Decent Spanish and Santo Domingo or Santiago (or anywhere else for that matter) spread wide their metaphorical legs to welcome him.
hi,
does anyone have a list of massage parlors with happy endings?
i know passions does the massage/soapy thing but do others?
basically any arrangement for sexual services between you and a massage therapist is a personal arrangement between the two of you.
as businesses they don't advertise happy endings because they are not licensed as brothels.
however money always talks and in reality you can get a happy ending from pretty much any massage therapist as long as she knows you will be discreet about it.
but i would just let it happen spontaneously if it happens. in general i would rather get a good massage and then find someone else for the sex than get a lousy massage which is a thin pretext for a handjob. sometimes you just get lucky and it all comes together. there is a cute haitian-dominican girl in sosua from whom i have had several massages and a few fucks--all good.
I am going to DR first time and like to know which city will be the best option for fun and all nighters.
1. Puerto plata
2. Punto cana
3. Sousa
4. S domingo
Or any recomendation. Usually how much is for all nighter in dollars. Is it mostly dark or tan skin ladies or white also.
ThanksChoice of destination often depends on what airport you may want to fly into. Many guys from Europe get good rates on Charter flights to Punta Cana.
Punta Cana is mostly large all inclusive hotels. Prices for chicas tend to be higher in Punta Cana. Punta Cana and Bavaro are adjacent to one another. Very nice beaches in Bavaro. Punta Cana/Bavaro venues are spread out, you will need to take taxis or motorcycle taxis to get around, unless you choose a hotel that is close to where the p4p chicas hang out. Airport code for punta cana airport is PUJ.
Santo Domingo is a large busy city with no beach. There is a crackdown on street prostitution going on now in Santo Domingo. Price for street chicas used to start around 1, 000 pesos (US $27) for short time. Bargains can always be found in Santo Domingo. Airport code is SDQ. More flights and generally less expensive to fly into Santo Domingo.
Puerto Plata city has two strip type clubs, Bohem and Crystal with takeout prices for chicas of over $100US. Ten minutes from Puerto Plata Airport (POP) is the small beach town of Sosua. There are now 2 in-house places with chicas in Sosua, CMP and Passions. Sosua is mostly a town with freelance chcias. You go to the bars at night and look around for an attractive chica, call her over, discuss price and if there is a meeting of the minds on price and service, away you go. You can negotiate for short term or all night. Prices always vary, as does service.
Blackbeards I guess is about 45 minutes from Puerto Plata airport. Blackbeards has chicas on site, the prices are set for short term and all night.
Many guys on this board have previously posted, usually best to take a chica for short term, before you commit to an all nighter. Some sexy looking chicas can be duds in bed.
Ath Trainer
10-14-10, 00:38
Choice of destination often depends on what airport you may want to fly into. Many guys from Europe get good rates on Charter flights to Punta Cana.
Punta Cana is mostly large all inclusive hotels. Prices for chicas tend to be higher in Punta Cana. Punta Cana and Bavaro are adjacent to one another. Very nice beaches in Bavaro. Punta Cana/Bavaro venues are spread out, you will need to take taxis or motorcycle taxis to get around, unless you choose a hotel that is close to where the p4p chicas hang out. Airport code for punta cana airport is PUJ.
Santo Domingo is a large busy city with no beach. There is a crackdown on street prostitution going on now in Santo Domingo. Price for street chicas used to start around 1, 000 pesos (US $27) for short time. Bargains can always be found in Santo Domingo. Airport code is SDQ. More flights and generally less expensive to fly into Santo Domingo.
Puerto Plata city has two strip type clubs, Bohem and Crystal with takeout prices for chicas of over $100US. Ten minutes from Puerto Plata Airport (POP) is the small beach town of Sosua. There are now 2 in-house places with chicas in Sosua, CMP and Passions. Sosua is mostly a town with freelance chcias. You go to the bars at night and look around for an attractive chica, call her over, discuss price and if there is a meeting of the minds on price and service, away you go. You can negotiate for short term or all night. Prices always vary, as does service.
Blackbeards I guess is about 45 minutes from Puerto Plata airport. Blackbeards has chicas on site, the prices are set for short term and all night.
Many guys on this board have previously posted, usually best to take a chica for short term, before you commit to an all nighter. Some sexy looking chicas can be duds in bed.
I liked how you said that $27 is the going rate, and that bargains can always be found. With the prices we pay for similar service in the States, and other mongering locations (TJ, SXM, CUR), $27 "is" a bargain. There are strip clubs near me where you can't get a 4 minute couch dance for 27.
Nice report!
Thanks Jaosousa. You explained it really nice. I think I will stick with puerto plata or suosa. Because I am looking for free lancer and all nighters.
Take care
Thanks Jaosousa. You explained it really nice. I think I will stick with puerto plata or suosa. Because I am looking for free lancer and all nighters.
Take careSosua is very easy, you will have fun.
There are some fine chicas in Crystals in Puerto Plata, but with prices over $100.
Sosua has a mix of chicas, light skin to dark skin, Dominican and Haitian chicas.
Passions Massage in Sosua has a webage with photos of their chicas, if you are curious.
Most of the chicas are not thieves. There are always a few nutty chicas and always a few thieves in every bunch, so guard your valuables (leave unnecessary valuables at home).
Just about everything in Sosua is within a 5-10 minute walk. There are supermarkets and liquor stores.
I liked how you said that $27 is the going rate, and that bargains can always be found. With the prices we pay for similar service in the States, and other mongering locations (Tijuana, SXM, CUR), $27 "is" a bargain. There are strip clubs near me where you can't get a 4 minute couch dance for 27.
Nice report!GBP is a small bar with rooms and about 7 chicas in Santo Domingo. The chicas are light skin and morenas. GBP has a two chica special for 1500 pesos, which is about (US $20. 83) per chica.
Escort King
10-14-10, 17:44
Thanks Jaosousa. You explained it really nice. I think I will stick with puerto plata or suosa. Because I am looking for free lancer and all nighters.
Take careBy reading some of the older posts you can get the feel of the various places and make your decision based on that. We all have our own favorites and see them from our viewpoint.
Ath Trainer
10-14-10, 23:28
GBP is a small bar with rooms and about 7 chicas in Santo Domingo. The chicas are light skin and morenas. GBP has a two chica special for 1500 pesos, which is about (US $20. 83) per chica.
Can you say "supersize me" in Spanish?
Lovebrazil02
10-15-10, 03:27
Were exactly is GDP was unable to located on Greater Santo Domingo mongering Map google.
Thanks
Lovebrazil02
10-15-10, 03:53
Were is GDP. I was unable to find it on Santo Domingo. Greater map
Please help
Were is GDP. I was unable to find it on Santo Domingo. Greater map
Please help
GBP is on the map. GBP is listed as Gimnasio Bar Privado.
Were exactly is GDP was unable to located on Greater Santo Domingo mongering Map google.
Thanks
If you have any more questions about Santo Domingo you can post them in the Santo Domingo forum.
Mr Enternational
10-15-10, 23:13
I was hitting this girl in Sosua over 3 years ago. I think she told me she was 20 years old and in medical school at the time when I met her in front of Classico (I think she was there for her Human Anatomy class or something. Hehehe!) A guy who I know from the barber shop at home who I accidentally ran into in Sosua was coincidentally boning her sister (who now she admits is actually her cousin) as well. She talked about how she wanted to get married and have a family. Being the player that I am, of course I was not with that. Well a couple of years ago she found some guy from Canada to knock her up and marry her. I just added her to my facebook over 3 years later and for her birthday it says 1990....
Coolie High
10-16-10, 01:41
I was hitting this girl in Sosua over 3 years ago. I think she told me she was 20 years old and in medical school at the time when I met her in front of Classico (I think she was there for her Human Anatomy class or something. Hehehe!) A guy who I know from the barber shop at home who I accidentally ran into in Sosua was coincidentally boning her sister (who now she admits is actually her cousin) as well. She talked about how she wanted to get married and have a family. Being the player that I am, of course I was not with that. Well a couple of years ago she found some guy from Canada to knock her up and marry her. I just added her to my facebook over 3 years later and for her birthday it says 1990....Nice so by my calculations she was really 17yrs old when you met her and shes now 20 lol! Curious so when you smashed was it technically legal in DR? In majority of the states if a female is 17yrs old shes fair game.
Mr Enternational
10-16-10, 08:06
Nice so by my calculations she was really 17yrs old when you met her and shes now 20 lol! Curious so when you smashed was it technically legal in DR? In majority of the states if a female is 17yrs old shes fair game.I have no idea. It's just that I can now understand why some people insist on seeing id. Actually she never accepted any money from me so as far as from a legality standpoint I'm not sure how it works. When I met her in front of Classico and tried to bargain with her she said that she really did not know how much to tell me because she had not done it before. So of course I bargained for the normal 1000 but when the next morning came and I tried to give her the 1000 she would not accept it and said she was serious about never having done it before and she didn't feel comfortable accepting money from me. I would call her several trips after and she would come to Sosua to meet me. The only time she ever wanted money was when that bad storm came through the DR. She called me and said that if I could send her anything at all then she would appreciate it because all of their things were destroyed. When she got with that Canadian guy she told me that she was really serious about when she kept telling me she just wanted to start a family. She was a definite 10, however better him than me.
Twice Divorced
10-16-10, 20:03
.....for the first time in a while. based upon the reports i've been reading lately i expected it to be a ghost town, as i've seen so often in the past. i was surprised to see so many chicas out and about. the downside was that i saw far too many **** girls walking around. did i ask for id? no. considering how young so many of them looked, i wouldn't think once about approaching them. i hope you guys, particularly newbies, are really careful when you're out there.
MiamiHeatLuver
10-16-10, 21:10
.....for the first time in a while. based upon the reports i've been reading lately i expected it to be a ghost town, as i've seen so often in the past. i was surprised to see so many chicas out and about. the downside was that i saw far too many **** girls walking around. did i ask for id? no. considering how young so many of them looked, i wouldn't think once about approaching them. i hope you guys, particularly newbies, are really careful when you're out there.
the politur and the policia national are trying to flex their muscles a little by pinching girls with no cedulas, girls walking by themselves and haitians with no visa.. i dont know why you would think it would be a ghost town. besides that, its hasn't changed one iota and its business as usual. the chicks and the cedula scenarios are quite easy, no cedula, no play period. these girls might even go as far as to try to set you up. i don't mind hotels logging in cedulas because i kind of consider it additional security for both trick and john. can you imagine trying to buy your way out if that nightmare all the while sitting in a dominican jail??? safe mongering people!
Twice Divorced
10-17-10, 01:04
mhl, i have done approx. 60 trips during the past 6 years or so and, although i started out in sosua, i spend most of my time in pp. i stop in sosua every 3-4 months just to see what's happening. there are times i've stopped through and, yes, there were very few chicas (and mongers) out and about at times. considering the recent reports about the crackdown i assumed things would be slow, but found it busier than i anticipated it would be.
one thing that bothered me was the number of evident **** girls. far more than i have ever noticed in the past years. imo, anyone who gets caught out with them are probably looking for them to begin with. for those who aren't, be extremely careful. i wonder if they're out there on their own or as part of a setup.
Blk Big Bootyluv
10-17-10, 01:43
i can just hear the forks drop and *clink*clink*clink*as they hit the plates while the needle scratches across the top of the record and the music comes to a crashing halt. LOL
This right here is too funny! Hope she wasn't a dime!
Blk Big Bootyluv
10-17-10, 01:51
This is equally hilarious.
LOL
Many thanks, Kyle, for taking the trouble to write such a detailed and literate report.
You have been unusually honest about everything. I must say you don't seem a good fit for Sosúa. You come across as very precise, rational, hygienic and fair-minded. Sosúa is sloppy, irrational, squalid and opportunistic (or worse).
I had to laugh about your reporting the waiter who offered you drinks in the pool. Had that annoyed me it would have lasted about two seconds and I would have forgotten about it two minutes later. You are kind of finely tuned, aren't you? You won't live to my age if you sweat the small stuff.
I am amazed at your story of the Passions chica returning all your money, having already gone that far. I have never heard of such a thing and I think any other guys expecting the same customer service will be in for a disappointment.
By the way, the chicas there are often very reluctant to kiss. Many would accept your dick up their ass but not kiss you on the lips. Partly it is just a hygiene thing but it is also a superstition that they reserve kissing for their "real" boyfriend or partner. Those that will kiss are maybe not in a steady relationship at that time.
Like you I prefer chicas of 22 and under but I wouldn't rely on them having low mileage. Most of them will have been fucking guys in the barrios for a few pesos since they were 14 or earlier. And usually without condoms.
Dominicans and even gringos running businesses in the DR don't do refunds. My landlord, who has lived here for 17 years, bought a brand new grill. First time he used it all the enamel crazed and came loose. When he took it back for a refund they said they couldn't give a refund "because it had been used".
Of course you are right to "punish" Terra Linda by withdrawing your custom and posting a negative report. But understand this. They don't care! They don't think about the money they will lose tomorrow, let alone next year. All they want is for this annoying customer to get the hell out and leave them in peace for the rest of the day.
Accountability (as defined by Miriam-Webster online): an obligation or willingness to accept responsibility or to account for one's actions.
I live in the DR and love my life here, but if there is one thing which is diametrically opposed to the Dominican mentality it is "accountability" and that applies from the President down to the lowest street-rat. It is not necessarily that they are craftily evading responsibility. They simply do not understand the connection between cause and effect.
A chica I spent a few days with was cooking with her one-year old playing round her feet. The child was splashed with hot oil and suffered (and continues to suffer) great pain. When the police arrested the mother she was baffled as "obviously I didn't mean to do it". It was just bad luck (or God's will for the religious ones).
It was obviously God's will that your internet did not work.
Nofrills79
10-18-10, 21:54
I just read an email that had a link to pictures of the new and improved Passions. I usually don't spend too much time in Passions because I enjoy the hunt, but I always have to make at least one trip there.
Anyway the question is did the renovations drive the price? Anybody know?
Thanks fellas. I plan on being there in a couple of weeks.
PartyPoooper
10-18-10, 23:17
I was at Passions last week.
The new Passions still had the same menu and pricing at that time.
The renovation is a great improvement, the rooms were clean and cozy.
I did like the old Passions. But the new Passions did impress me.
My only fault with the new Passions is that it may be a little too big city like for
This little town. A fair deal if the price does not change.
Lots of cuties working.
Manizales911
10-18-10, 23:40
I just got a reply from Terra Linda to an e-mail request by me checking availability of a room with double occupancy and was quoted a price of $99. a night. Are they on crack or something??? I can rent a three bedroom villa and have my own pool and jacuzzi for $20. a night more for chrissakes.
Just returned from two weeks in Sosua. Some general observations.
Oppresive heat with high humidity, Occasional rain shower, mostly during the night.
Stayed at Casa Marina which is undergoing major renovation. No air conditioning during the day. In the parking lot the locals are trucking out the old t.vs and mattresses as fast as they can load them. My regular left me at the bar for a few minutes. She came back smiling and told me I'd just bought her a decent flat t.v. for 2,000 pesos. I asked how the hell she'd get it home to the other end of the D.R.(10 hours and two buses and a taxi away).
No problem, she had called our regular motoconcho guy to the hotel and got him and a buddy to take it to Choramicos where she has family, and it was there already. She'll bus it home when I leave. All in 20 minutes or so. Gotta love this girl!
Never saw many cops there before, but now the're everywhere.
So, not as many chicas around, but still enough for anyone, with some real young knockouts. I saw more 10's on this trip than I've seen before down there. It was quieter than usual around N.G. and Terra Linda, quiet around town during the day, with the bars only filling up at the weekends.
First night at the bar a newbie got cornered by the resident/leech/stalker/drama queen and seemed to be enjoying the attention. When they passed our table, she stopped to say hello, because we know most of the locals and it doesn't hurt to say hello after you've seen tham a hundered times. He asked if they could join us, and we said sure. He told me he'd just arrived and was enjoying the scene. Said he'd travelled extensively and done a lot of research before choosing Sosua. I wasn't sure, judging by the hand holding already, but what the hey! I wasn't abouit to tell this particular guy how to spend his time and his money.
Eventually, we moved on to the next bar (with them in tow) and after a while they got into a big argument. She made the cutthroat sign and stormed off. I asked what's wrong. He was really pissed. Turns out he got insulted because she asked him for money for milk for bambina. Really! He'd picked the ***** of *****s (or she picked him) and he was surprised she asked him for money? What the hell did he think all this hand holding and kissing shit an hour off the plane was all about?
He said that was enough for him that night and went back to the hotel (Casa Marina). Tried to give him a pep talk but he said he thought the chica was our friend so she'd be OK. Damn! it was almost like he was accusing us of setting him up.
Next morning at breakfast he had another tale of woe, seems he went out for coffee early and got into a tugging match with chica who tried to lift his wallet, coffee thrown, pants pocket torn. He said he had had enough of Sosua and wasn't leaving the hotel.
Optimistic me says, look at all the beautiful chicas they're all out there for you and they aren't all bad. He did go out once more and got ripped off for forty dollars, Didn't ask him how, because it was becoming obvious.
His problem was that he acted like he knew it all and wasn't about to take advice from anybody. Never before have I ever seen that combination of cockiness on the one hand and on the other not having a clue as to what is really going on around him. Naive is hardly the word, but the guy was clearly out of his depth, and I did feel a little sorry for him.
He stuck around the hotel for the rest of the week waiting to home.
Wonder where he's "reearching" now?
He obviously missed this board, but if he finds it and reads this, Hi Jerry!
Mr Enternational
10-19-10, 09:13
First night at the bar a newbie got cornered by the resident/leech/stalker/drama queen and seemed to be enjoying the attention. Said he'd travelled extensively and done a lot of research before choosing Sosua. I wasn't sure, judging by the hand holding already, but what the hey! I wasn't abouit to tell this particular guy how to spend his time and his money.You should have told him that Alabama and Florida don't count as extensive travel. I guess he eventually found that out the hard way though huh.
Coolie High
10-19-10, 09:43
Wonder where he's "reearching" now?
He obviously missed this board, but if he finds it and reads this, Hi Jerry!Yo Oakie I believe Gogo ran into the same guy in Sosua. Both name start with the letter J and the description that you and Gogo recently wrote suggest that yaw were dealing with the same donkey.
If a newbie don't get the proper knowledge or worse yet not listen to a fellow monger that's already been down the same path hes going that's just a recipe for disaster in Sosua. Ooh well "Jerry" or Gogos "J" has provided some great tragedy/comic relief in both reports.
Hell I had my cup of Joe in my hand reading the reports like a tragic novel.
Just returned from two weeks in Sosua. Some general observations.
Oppresive heat with high humidity, Occasional rain shower, mostly during the night.
Stayed at Casa Marina which is undergoing major renovation. No air conditioning during the day. In the parking lot the locals are trucking out the old t.vs and mattresses as fast as they can load them. My regular left me at the bar for a few minutes. She came back smiling and told me I'd just bought her a decent flat t.v. for 2,000 pesos. I asked how the hell she'd get it home to the other end of the D.R.(10 hours and two buses and a taxi away).
No problem, she had called our regular motoconcho guy to the hotel and got him and a buddy to take it to Choramicos where she has family, and it was there already. She'll bus it home when I leave. All in 20 minutes or so. Gotta love this girl!
Never saw many cops there before, but now the're everywhere.
So, not as many chicas around, but still enough for anyone, with some real young knockouts. I saw more 10's on this trip than I've seen before down there. It was quieter than usual around N.G. and Terra Linda, quiet around town during the day, with the bars only filling up at the weekends.
First night at the bar a newbie got cornered by the resident/leech/stalker/drama queen and seemed to be enjoying the attention. When they passed our table, she stopped to say hello, because we know most of the locals and it doesn't hurt to say hello after you've seen tham a hundered times. He asked if they could join us, and we said sure. He told me he'd just arrived and was enjoying the scene. Said he'd travelled extensively and done a lot of research before choosing Sosua. I wasn't sure, judging by the hand holding already, but what the hey! I wasn't abouit to tell this particular guy how to spend his time and his money.
Eventually, we moved on to the next bar (with them in tow) and after a while they got into a big argument. She made the cutthroat sign and stormed off. I asked what's wrong. He was really pissed. Turns out he got insulted because she asked him for money for milk for bambina. Really! He'd picked the ***** of *****s (or she picked him) and he was surprised she asked him for money? What the hell did he think all this hand holding and kissing shit an hour off the plane was all about?
He said that was enough for him that night and went back to the hotel (Casa Marina). Tried to give him a pep talk but he said he thought the chica was our friend so she'd be OK. Damn! it was almost like he was accusing us of setting him up.
Next morning at breakfast he had another tale of woe, seems he went out for coffee early and got into a tugging match with chica who tried to lift his wallet, coffee thrown, pants pocket torn. He said he had had enough of Sosua and wasn't leaving the hotel.
Optimistic me says, look at all the beautiful chicas they're all out there for you and they aren't all bad. He did go out once more and got ripped off for forty dollars, Didn't ask him how, because it was becoming obvious.
His problem was that he acted like he knew it all and wasn't about to take advice from anybody. Never before have I ever seen that combination of cockiness on the one hand and on the other not having a clue as to what is really going on around him. Naive is hardly the word, but the guy was clearly out of his depth, and I did feel a little sorry for him.
He stuck around the hotel for the rest of the week waiting to home.
Wonder where he's "reearching" now?
He obviously missed this board, but if he finds it and reads this, Hi Jerry!
After reading your post I have a serious bit of advice for you. Please consider the company that you are keeping because problems of others can sometimes take on a life of their own and consume you.
Just a bit of advice and it's great that you had a good time and I am sure you are laughing at dude on the inside and his problems and misfortune were the underlying joke of your trip.
I just got a reply from Terra Linda to an e-mail request by me checking availability of a room with double occupancy and was quoted a price of $99. a night. Are they on crack or something??? I can rent a three bedroom villa and have my own pool and jacuzzi for $20. a night more for chrissakes.
Try Perla de Sosua. It's cheaper and you can book in advance online.
...Please consider the company that you are keeping because problems of others can sometimes take on a life of their own and consume you...Very, very, good advice. I don't think that I have ever stressed that enough. Some of these countries are like the "Wild West," so you don't want some dickheaded fool getting you shot!
-Helpmann :)
24 Nights in Boca Chica (a.k.a. "My Fool Neighbor") (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=309020&postcount=478)
There are always some hard headed know it all people. Generally in mongering it is better to do your own thing. Many will not take your advice.
However this guy may or may not be telling you the real truth.
I wasn't sure, judging by the hand holding already, but what the hey! I wasn't abouit to tell this particular guy how to spend his time and his money.
Eventually, we moved on to the next bar (with them in tow) and after a while they got into a big argument. She made the cutthroat sign and stormed off. I asked what's wrong. He was really pissed. Turns out he got insulted because she asked him for money for milk for bambina. Really! He'd picked the ***** of *****s (or she picked him) and he was surprised she asked him for money? What the hell did he think all this hand holding and kissing shit an hour off the plane was all about?
He said that was enough for him that night and went back to the hotel (Casa Marina). Tried to give him a pep talk but he said he thought the chica was our friend so she'd be OK. Damn! it was almost like he was accusing us of setting him up.
Next morning at breakfast he had another tale of woe, seems he went out for coffee early and got into a tugging match with chica who tried to lift his wallet, coffee thrown, pants pocket torn. He said he had had enough of Sosua and wasn't leaving the hotel.
Optimistic me says, look at all the beautiful chicas they're all out there for you and they aren't all bad. He did go out once more and got ripped off for forty dollars, Didn't ask him how, because it was becoming obvious.
His problem was that he acted like he knew it all and wasn't about to take advice from anybody. Never before have I ever seen that combination of cockiness on the one hand and on the other not having a clue as to what is really going on around him. Naive is hardly the word, but the guy was clearly out of his depth, and I did feel a little sorry for him.
He stuck around the hotel for the rest of the week waiting to home.
Wonder where he's "reearching" now?
He obviously missed this board, but if he finds it and reads this, Hi Jerry!
Fair enough that you don't outright tell the guy that he's holding hands with the resident skankie drama queen. That would probably get you no end of trouble for sticking your nose in her business. But if she was that bad I would find some excuse so that she is not hanging onto your coatails when you go out. In a sense she was using your rep to legitimize herself.
I do feel for the guy who had all the troubles even if they are of his own making. It's those guys who should be pointed in the direction of Passions - they will most likely have a good time and won't get into trouble.
I just got a reply from Terra Linda to an e-mail request by me checking availability of a room with double occupancy and was quoted a price of $99. a night. Are they on crack or something??? I can rent a three bedroom villa and have my own pool and jacuzzi for $20. a night more for chrissakes.
Just curious.
To those who are still curious what I did with that girl from La Passion, I kicked her out in the morning after she asked "por que no sexo?" at 9:00 AM knowing full well that she intended to be back at work by 10 AM. What a stupid woman who not only turned me off her but also off the entire establishment.
Manizales911
10-20-10, 04:34
Just curious.Well noted in this forum, Sosua.
Yo Oakie I believe Gogo ran into the same guy in Sosua. Both name start with the letter J and the description that you and Gogo recently wrote suggest that yaw were dealing with the same donkey.
If a newbie don't get the proper knowledge or worse yet not listen to a fellow monger that's already been down the same path hes going that's just a recipe for disaster in Sosua. Ooh well "Jerry" or Gogos "J" has provided some great tragedy/comic relief in both reports.
Hell I had my cup of Joe in my hand reading the reports like a tragic novel.
Yep Coolie, that's the guy.
You know I would never uses a real mongers name on this board. Funny thing is, his real name is XXXX, (4 letters) but from the get go I got it wrong and kept calling him Jerry, which he kept correcting me all week, so no harm done.
Some here chastise me for not doing more for the guy, but I did spend a lot of my time over coffee every morning, giving him the lay of the land including La Passion etc, but he just didn't want to pay for it.
Others have said I should have avoided him, but I genuinely didn't want to see him waste a weeks vacation.
My take is he saw me with my regular and the locals having a great time that first night, including some free shots sent over by the house, and wanted to hang with us. i think he figured he could just drop in and do the same shit, without going through my 2 years of investment to get to this point with my regular and her friends and family.
I didn't need his drama (3 rip offs in 3 days) so we never took him out with us again and made sure we sat at a table for two for breakfast. We did have coffee together though before my chica showed up, where I tried my best with him.
As for me, the two weeks, aside from the heat, was paradise. The only thing I could have added, is a couple rounds with one or two of those hot young chicas I saw that literally took my breath away.
But Princessa just laughed and said, maybe on my birthday :)
Some here chastise me for not doing more for the guy, but I did spend a lot of my time over coffee every morning, giving him the lay of the land including La Passion etc, but he just didn't want to pay for it.
Others have said I should have avoided him, but I genuinely didn't want to see him waste a weeks vacation.
My take is he saw me with my regular and the locals having a great time that first night, including some free shots sent over by the house, and wanted to hang with us. i think he figured he could just drop in and do the same shit, without going through my 2 years of investment to get to this point with my regular and her friends and family.
I didn't need his drama (3 rip offs in 3 days) so we never took him out with us again and made sure we sat at a table for two for breakfast. We did have coffee together though before my chica showed up, where I tried my best with him.
As for me, the two weeks, aside from the heat, was paradise. The only thing I could have added, is a couple rounds with one or two of those hot young chicas I saw that literally took my breath away.
But Princessa just laughed and said, maybe on my birthday :)
Sounds like you tried, my apologies if it sounded like I meant that you didn't. I see you did point him to Passions too. I think the saying is you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink...
Have a good birthday :-)
Sounds like you tried, my apologies if it sounded like I meant that you didn't. I see you did point him to Passions too. I think the saying is you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink...
I have helped many a monger learn the ropes around Sosua, but there is certainly no need for extra baggage. It winds up costing you pussy!
buscemi
Member #2666
10-21-10, 16:56
Any report from the Mens Club located down past Sea Cretes and before Passions.
We were there a couple of weeks ago when it first opened and attended their pool party and had a blast.
I hope it continues.
Boston Gringo 1
10-23-10, 12:56
Just wondering what everyones top 5 favorite restaurants are in Sosua.
Boston Gringo 1
10-23-10, 19:37
Just wondering what you guys list as your 5 favorite restaurants in Sosua.
Thank you !
So I've been reading all the DR boards and I'm trying to figure out where to go in the DR. I have a 5 day weekend the first week in November. I'm an experienced monger in Costa Rica and Brazil but since I have a free plane ticket to the Carribean, I figured i'd try some where new. I thought about staying at Blackbeards since that seems to be a good spot for DR newbies. If you read through my posts, you can see I give a lot back to the board. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Marc Anthony
10-23-10, 22:41
So I've been reading all the DR boards and I'm trying to figure out where to go in the DR. I have a 5 day weekend the first week in November. I'm an experienced monger in Costa Rica and Brazil but since I have a free plane ticket to the Carribean, I figured i'd try some where new. I thought about staying at Blackbeards since that seems to be a good spot for DR newbies. If you read through my posts, you can see I give a lot back to the board. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Blackbeard's is a great choice if you can fly in and out of POP. While there you can take a taxi to Sosua and see if you like it. Otherwise you have everything you need in one place without the hassles of figuring anything out. Most things of interest you may have read about are accessible.
Funinthesun63
10-24-10, 08:01
Just wondering what you guys list as your 5 favorite restaurants in Sosua.
Thank you !
Not an expert by any means but my favs are:
1 Bailey's
2 Bologna
3 Hotel Orchidee on the roof
4 Casa Valeria
5 Britannia
Definitely agree baileys has good food. Never had a bad meal there and I sit rite at the bar. Its pricey but good and rite around corner from New Garden where I like to stay.
Not an expert by any means but my favs are:
1 Bailey's
2 Bologna
3 Hotel Orchidee on the roof
4 Casa Valeria
5 Britannia
Mike Hammer
10-24-10, 17:15
I was in Sosua and Santo Domingo recently and yes, there's a clean up going on. Sosua still had ladies, specially at night but they were afraid of being picked up and the area in El Conde (SD) had very little action. No, it's not a hoax!
If you can read Spanish, this will tell you what's going on:
Directly from Politur website:
Fecha de publicación: 27/09/2010 8:56:49
POLITUR, FISCALIA Y POLICIA NALCIONAL ENCABEZAN OPERATIVOS EN ZONAS DE RECREACION TURISTICA.
Durante el operativo fueron halladas decenas de armas blancas y otros objetos cortantes, así como también la sustancia denominada “plomerito ó acido del diablo”, que portaban muchas de las mujeres detenidas.
It was astounding to me how girls defend themselves, in Punta Cana I met two of them that told me they had disposable blades in their purses just to fight other girls. But that notice tops everything, "plomerito o acido del diablo" is a strong acid used by plumbers to unblock pipes...
MiamiHeatLuver
10-24-10, 17:42
Hey Gentlemen, I have a friend of mine from Italy that wants to spend a long weekend with me in Sosua to show him the ropes. This is more for my EURO mongers, He's coming from Naples Italy, Would anybody know the FLIGHT PATH? I don't have a clue. Considering there are so many Italians on that Island and so many charter flights. ea FLY THOMSON and others.. TIA
So I've been reading all the DR boards and I'm trying to figure out where to go in the DR. I have a 5 day weekend the first week in November. I'm an experienced monger in Costa Rica and Brazil but since I have a free plane ticket to the Carribean, I figured i'd try some where new. I thought about staying at Blackbeards since that seems to be a good spot for DR newbies. If you read through my posts, you can see I give a lot back to the board. Any input would be greatly appreciated.You are experienced in costa rica (Spanish language), you can probably negotiate in Spanish. Sosua might be more fun. Blackbeards has attractive women and they are on site, so no hassles and no being out like on safari.
Sosua is more you go out and hunt. The hunting is easy, but it is still more of a hunt than blackbeards.
Really depends what you like. Blackbeards has everything on site, food, rooms, drinks and chicas in a safe and secure environment.
If you have done costa rica and brasil, I don't think you would have any problem in Sosua.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDekDqpc76U
A video with friends at Sosua beach.
I've put together a modest Google Earth "KML" file of hotels, some bars & restaurants, and places I found of interest in Sosua:
http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=953715&filename=Westy's Sosua.kmz
The list is neither comprehensive nor complete - but I hope at least that it will help some other newbies find their way around this town....
John from NJ
10-26-10, 17:43
So I've been reading all the DR boards and I'm trying to figure out where to go in the DR. I have a 5 day weekend the first week in November. I'm an experienced monger in Costa Rica and Brazil but since I have a free plane ticket to the Carribean, I figured i'd try some where new. I thought about staying at Blackbeards since that seems to be a good spot for DR newbies. If you read through my posts, you can see I give a lot back to the board. Any input would be greatly appreciated.I thought about stay at BB my first trip but ended up in Sosua. BB sounds like a nice place to hang out and have everything arranged for you. Sosua is the place to go if you want to bar hop, try restaurants, and watch the chica parade. Socua is not hard to figure out. Read the posts. Everything you need to know is there. Expect to pay 1000-1500 for ST and 2000-2500 for TLN in Sosua. My advice is not to negotiate. If the chica rejects your offer another willing chica will be standing behind her. BB has set prices. Spanish is not necessary. But it is nice to be able to communicate with the chica while recharging. You need to decide if you would rather have the party atmosphere of Socua or the remote layback BB experience.
So I've been reading all the DR boards and I'm trying to figure out where to go in the DR. I have a 5 day weekend the first week in November. I'm an experienced monger in Costa Rica and Brazil but since I have a free plane ticket to the Carribean, I figured i'd try some where new. I thought about staying at Blackbeards since that seems to be a good spot for DR newbies. If you read through my posts, you can see I give a lot back to the board. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
You may not be able to get into Blackbeard's on such short notice, but several of the Sosua hotels on Calle Dr. Rosen were showing "vacancy" signs last week and a couple of them had up signs for pretty good 'special' rates. Example - Sea Breeze had a rate of 3 nights for $100 US on their sign.
My experience of Sosua, last week, was that it was pretty wild & wooly for me, at my level of experience. I could see it was great for the more experienced and self-assured mongers, though. As John from NJ puts it, Blackbeard's is more laid-back and relaxed, and the new mamasan speaks very good English if that's a need.
I hit both places last week, and I must admit I was more comfortable with "Barba Negra". As I told Tim, the manager - "I spent four nights at the New Garden to get a taste of Sosua this trip, and it took a lot of kisses from your chicas here at Blackbeard's to get the taste of Sosua out of my mouth!"
You may not be able to get into Blackbeard's on such short notice, but several of the Sosua hotels on Calle Dr. Rosen were showing "vacancy" signs last week and a couple of them had up signs for pretty good 'special' rates. Example - Sea Breeze had a rate of 3 nights for $100 US on their sign.
My experience of Sosua, last week, was that it was pretty wild & wooly for me, at my level of experience. I could see it was great for the more experienced and self-assured mongers, though. As John from NJ puts it, Blackbeard's is more laid-back and relaxed, and the new mamasan speaks very good English if that's a need.
I hit both places last week, and I must admit I was more comfortable with "Barba Negra". As I told Tim, the manager - "I spent four nights at the New Garden to get a taste of Sosua this trip, and it took a lot of kisses from your chicas here at Blackbeard's to get the taste of Sosua out of my mouth!"
That is because New Garden lets the broads in to harass you. Perla de Sosua is hidden and has the Big Metal Gate. They also have a staff that understands that when you get the girl out the gate it's over.
... New Garden lets the broads in to harass you. Perla de Sosua is hidden and has the Big Metal Gate. They also have a staff that understands that when you get the girl out the gate it's over.
Now that I've googled Perla de Sosua, it looks like a very good option ... maybe I need to add it to my Google Earth script. Thank you!
BTW, Lancer - and others who are looking at their first time in Sosua - there are plenty of options besides the New Garden. I chose it for this, my first Sosua trip, because so many reports here just-about have it branded as Monger Central. I was able to learn a lot from the more experienced punters that were staying there, and I do appreciate it!
Now that I've googled Perla de Sosua, it looks like a very good option ... maybe I need to add it to my Google Earth script. Thank you!
BTW, Lancer - and others who are looking at their first time in Sosua - there are plenty of options besides the New Garden. I chose it for this, my first Sosua trip, because so many reports here just-about have it branded as Monger Central. I was able to learn a lot from the more experienced punters that were staying there, and I do appreciate it!Maybe Perla de Sosua changed their policy, years ago I inquired about renting a one bedroom apartment from them for 5 nights and I was sent a form to fill out and was told I would have to deposit $500 into their paypal account as security in addition to paying the rental charges. I did not rent from them. I rented one bedroom condominium apartments through Marco at Rockys, at the tradewinds building for $45 per night with a $50 deposit, numerous times.
Perla de Sosua is down a small street from the banco popular, at the bottom of a hill. There is a large metal gate, then a parking area and then the rooms. I have no idea what their security deposit requirement is presently. There was no way I was going to deposit $500 dollars as security into some paypal account for a 5 night one bedroom apartment rental.
Considering a trip to either BB or Sosua. My preference is younger, tighter 19 to early twenties preferably with no children. I'm not as attracted to the effects of ladies who have bambinas ( saggy breasts, stretch marks). I know it may sound picky but it's just my preference.
It seems as though Latina ladies have children at a young age. I found the same in Buenos Aires. Had a difficult time finding tight, early twenties without children.
Is this readily available in Sosua/Blackbeards or am I barking up the wrong tree?
Appreciate any comments.
Considering a trip to Sosua or Blackbeards. My preference is younger, tighter, 19 to early twenties ladies preferably with out bambinas. I don't like the effects of chilbirth (saggy breasts, stretch marks). I know it may seem picky, but it's my preference. Mind you, it's not a showstopper, but a preference.
Are these types of ladies readily available in Sosua/ BB's?
It seems that Latina have children very young. I found this the same I'm Buenos Aires, had a difficult tome finding my preference.
Which is a better option, sosua or BB's or am I barking up the wrong tree?
Sorry about the duplicate post, but I didn't think the first post was accepted.
Now that I've googled Perla de Sosua, it looks like a very good option ... maybe I need to add it to my Google Earth script. Thank you!
BTW, Lancer - and others who are looking at their first time in Sosua - there are plenty of options besides the New Garden. I chose it for this, my first Sosua trip, because so many reports here just-about have it branded as Monger Central. I was able to learn a lot from the more experienced punters that were staying there, and I do appreciate it!
Please visit Perla's website. Jaosousa seems to have a lot of comments but, it never seems like anything he says is current so, If I were you I would visit their website and get their policies directly from them. Also, it is one of the few places in Sosua that you can book online and get airport pick up.
Considering a trip to Sosua or Blackbeards. My preference is younger, tighter, 19 to early twenties ladies preferably with out bambinas. I don't like the effects of chilbirth (saggy breasts, stretch marks). I know it may seem picky, but it's my preference. Mind you, it's not a showstopper, but a preference.
Are these types of ladies readily available in Sosua/ BB's?
It seems that Latina have children very young. I found this the same I'm Buenos Aires, had a difficult tome finding my preference.
Which is a better option, sosua or BB's or am I barking up the wrong tree?
85% of the chicas have had children, IMHO, try BB for one or two nights, that is all, Sosua has a nice schmorgasbord of toto, not all have stretch marks or saggy tetas. La Passion and CMP have lots of 8 + ladies, pricy but pretty!
READ the forum, all the information is here!!!
85% of the chicas have had children, IMHO, try BB for one or two nights, that is all, Sosua has a nice schmorgasbord of toto, not all have stretch marks or saggy tetas. La Passion and CMP have lots of 8 + ladies, pricy but pretty!
READ the forum, all the information is here!!!Thanks Buscemi for your advice. I was definitely planning to hit La Passion in Sosua. The prices seem very reasonable compared to about $250 US for one of the top rung chicas at Madaho's or Blacks in Buenos Aires.
I'm leaning towards staying at New Garden in Sosua and hitting the clubs from there. With a lack of Spanish, will I be able to get by?
It was definitely a struggle in Buenos Aires, but I managed.
Considering a trip to either BB or Sosua. My preference is younger, tighter 19 to early twenties preferably with no children. I'm not as attracted to the effects of ladies who have bambinas ( saggy breasts, stretch marks). I know it may sound picky but it's just my preference.
It seems as though Latina ladies have children at a young age. I found the same in Buenos Aires. Had a difficult time finding tight, early twenties without children.
Is this readily available in Sosua/Blackbeards or am I barking up the wrong tree?
Appreciate any comments.
IMHO most girls have children. Some have only one but many have multiple although they are still in their twenties. Once I took a girl who had 4 children but she was tight and very GFE. The girls you get is a roll of dice in DR. Once I met a 19 year old in the Casino who did not have any babies and I kept her for three days. I always rent a car so that I have multiple options to pick up. There are many casinoes where pretty girls hang around. There are many discoes also apart from in Sosua where you can pick up girls.
Latino girls seem to be more chubbier and looser compared to asian girls. Generally all of them start having sex at 14 years and not easy to find tight holes.
Riky Rapido
10-27-10, 14:26
IMHO most girls have children. Some have only one but many have multiple although they are still in their twenties. Once I took a girl who had 4 children but she was tight and very GFE. The girls you get is a roll of dice in DR. Once I met a 19 year old in the Casino who did not have any babies and I kept her for three days. I always rent a car so that I have multiple options to pick up. There are many casinoes where pretty girls hang around. There are many discoes also apart from in Sosua where you can pick up girls.
Latino girls seem to be more chubbier and looser compared to asian girls. Generally all of them start having sex at 14 years and not easy to find tight holes.
sport fucking works both ways. I've come to the conclusion that the Dominican chica exercises that pussy to stay tight. The girls grow up with only but one toy. I have yet to do a loose sloppy pussy here in the DR. Can anybody offer any better theories ??
Please visit Perla's website. Jaosousa seems to have a lot of comments but, it never seems like anything he says is current so, If I were you I would visit their website and get their policies directly from them. Also, it is one of the few places in Sosua that you can book online and get airport pick up.Nice to see that you are the resident expert in all things Dominican. In the past I asked YOU directly about pay for play action in Santiago, you alleged you lived in Santiago and you never responded.
I believe you once posted that all women were just moist holes and in your mind it is OK to jack women.
I don't know how you earn your money, if you do live in Dom Rep, perhaps you are trying to get a kick back from perla de sosua for hawking the place.
Perla de Sosua is down a dark lonely street. Late at night it will not be the most pleasant walk. I saw perla de sosua from the outside and was not impressed with the place.
I said in my post my info was from years ago regarding perla de sosua, maybe their policy is the same or maybe their policy has changed (I doubt that a guy who robs third world chicas has 500 dollars to put down as a deposit on a 5 night nothing special one bedroom condo rental). You are hawking the place, so why don't you give further information about the place and take some photos and post them here.
You claim to live in Dominican Republic, why don't you provide more use to this board and provide up to date information with photos, about all things Dominican.
Unfortunately I can't slum around in a third world country robbing moist holes of what little money they may have, therefore you are correct some of my info is not up to date.
My offer is open any members including people like you, I will meet you for you drinks and we can discuss any subject you like.
Charles Pooter
10-27-10, 16:39
Jaosousa seems to have a lot of comments but, it never seems like anything he says is current ...
A bit of an unnecessary comment. I find him to be one of more thoughtful and informed posters. No harm in a little trip down memory lane now and then. It doesn't all have to be the latest info provided the poster makes that fact clear and doesn't mislead people.
Please visit Perla's website. Jaosousa seems to have a lot of comments but, it never seems like anything he says is current so, If I were you I would visit their website and get their policies directly from them. Also, it is one of the few places in Sosua that you can book online and get airport pick up.I did visit their site today, so this information is up to date as of today: http://perladesosua.com/availability/reserve
To make a reservation you have to fill out a form and it says it is MANDATORY that you provide your name, home address, home phone number, Credit Card information, email address. Looks like the cheapest room they have is $39 per night for a studio which requires a $150 dollar deposit (they lowered their deposit from $500 to $150, but the form is still required).
I will never give some Cheapy Sosua hotel my personal information along with my credit card information over the internet, it will never happen with me.
In the past, I walked into Rockys, spoke to Marco, asked him for a one bedroom condo, paid a $50 dollar deposit (which I always got back no problem). I paid Marco in cash $45 per night. No form to fill out with my personal information and no giving my credit card information.
Tradewinds is outside Sosua center, more than comfortable one bedroom condos, good breeze because the buildings are on a hill and a very nice pool.
A bit of an unnecessary comment. I find him to be one of more thoughtful and informed posters. No harm in a little trip down memory lane now and then. It doesn't all have to be the latest info provided the poster makes that fact clear and doesn't mislead people.Thanks Pooter. This is a hobby and this should be an enjoyable board to read.
If an admitted thief recommends a cheap hotel that requires all personal information along with credit card information, red flags should go up.
sport fucking works both ways. I've come to the conclusion that the Dominican chica exercises that pussy to stay tight. The girls grow up with only but one toy. I have yet to do a loose sloppy pussy here in the DR. Can anybody offer any better theories ??
bwahahahah dominican chicas doing excercises! Sorry couldn't resist that one.
Marc Anthony
10-27-10, 17:17
sport fucking works both ways. I've come to the conclusion that the Dominican chica exercises that pussy to stay tight. The girls grow up with only but one toy. I have yet to do a loose sloppy pussy here in the DR. Can anybody offer any better theories ??
More associated with Haitian girls, the Dominican's call pussy control "Cocomordan". It's like the result of kegel exercises and practice controlling the PC muscles. I've had a couple Haitian chicas who could do a lot with it. The same skill put to entertainment purposes was what Thai and Phillipino clubs used to be famous for: shooting out ping pong balls, blowing out candles and all sorts of pussy circus tricks.
I do think both Haitian and Dominican girls are raised to be more aware of the importance of actively learning to please a guy in bed - and some girls had mothers, relatives or friends get them started early on developing skills.
With Haitian girls I think many of them also have very well developed muscles for squatting because they have done chores in that position for years. It's a very cool skill to be able to squat over you, with the only point of contact being your dick inside her, and combine cocomordan with subtle movements so it's like getting a very good BJ from a pussy.
Jaosousa seems to have a lot of comments but, it never seems like anything he says is current so,Hahaha, nothing I post is current? Please point out my posts that were incorrect, thanks. I am looking forward to it. I doubt you will respond.
...Jaosousa seems to have a lot of comments but, it never seems like anything he says is current so...I disagree. Personally, I believe that Jaosousa has provided me with very good, current, and detailed information pertaining to the Dominican Republic (especially Santo Domingo).
-Helpmann :)
...With Haitian girls I think many of them also have very well developed muscles for squatting because they have done chores in that position for years. It's a very cool skill to be able to squat over you, with the only point of contact being your dick inside her, and combine cocomordan with subtle movements so it's like getting a very good BJ from a pussy.Insightful post. I have never associated squatting with the development of strong vaginal muscles. That is a very interesting observation.
Thanks,
Helpmann :)
Hahaha, nothing I post is current? Please point out my posts that were incorrect, thanks. I am looking forward to it. I doubt you will respond.
I will respond. Why wouldn't I?
Perla de Sosua has a policy of a $150 refundable security deposit for new customers that rent their apartments through their internet website or Expedia. If you are a recurring customer or a walk in their is no deposit.
That being said, your information is not current. You must have had tried to stay there over 5 years ago before the current owner bought the place and changed the policy.
Also, for those who care, Perla is not a hotel but and Aparta Hotel. They have units that are singles as well as one a two bedrooms with full kitchen (For guy who like to have their broads do more womanly stuff than just fuck).
I disagree. Personally, I believe that Jaosousa has provided me with very good, current, and detailed information pertaining to the Dominican Republic (especially Santo Domingo).
-Helpmann :)
Great. I am sure he is happy to have such a loyal friend as yourself. Keep up the good work.
You have to be kidding about Rockys, cant even understand why they would want a deposit, the place is a total dump, especially there rooms. Least I know how you roll. I would never stay there.
I did visit their site today, so this information is up to date as of today: http://perladesosua.com/availability/reserve
To make a reservation you have to fill out a form and it says it is MANDATORY that you provide your name, home address, home phone number, Credit Card information, email address. Looks like the cheapest room they have is $39 per night for a studio which requires a $150 dollar deposit (they lowered their deposit from $500 to $150, but the form is still required).
I will never give some Cheapy Sosua hotel my personal information along with my credit card information over the internet, it will never happen with me.
In the past, I walked into Rockys, spoke to Marco, asked him for a one bedroom condo, paid a $50 dollar deposit (which I always got back no problem). I paid Marco in cash $45 per night. No form to fill out with my personal information and no giving my credit card information.
Tradewinds is outside Sosua center, more than comfortable one bedroom condos, good breeze because the buildings are on a hill and a very nice pool.
You have to be kidding about Rockys, cant even understand why they would want a deposit, the place is a total dump, especially there rooms. Least I know how you roll. I would never stay there.You Can read?
Marco at Rockys rents out one bedroom apartments at tradewinds condominiums. It is obvious the rooms at Rockys are not one bedroom condominium apartments, outside the center of Sosua.
Don't try to comprehend my post before you decide to chime in, great.
i disagree. personally, i believe that jaosousa has provided me with very good, current, and detailed information pertaining to the dominican republic (especially santo domingo).
-helpmann :)i would bet that there are more than a few young male us citizens who jumped bail (to avoid going to jail, for [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) or robbery) and who decided to live in dom rep. my guess is, it is possible some of these criminals post on this board.
a young us male citizen who considers all women nothing more than moist holes, i don't know why that young man would decide to live in a third world country, then decide he needed to jack the local women in order to survive.
i did over ten trips to sosua over the years. over time i noticed that sosua was attracting an undesirable crowd, both dominican and foreign. i grew up in the bronx, new york and worked in the rough parts of brooklyn, upper manhattan and the bronx. when i go on vacation, i don't want to be around low life want to be thug gangstas. i stopped going to sosua and have no desire to return to sosua.
if a newbie wants to give all his personal information and his credit card information over the internet to a hotel in sosewer, that has practically no reviews on this site, then that newbie is free to roll the dice.
if the spokesperson for a certain sosua hotel is a fugitive [CodeWord126] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126) or robber, then that information should be made available to anyone considering that hotel.
I am still waiting for you to point out where any of my posts were incorrect.
I will respond. Why wouldn't I?
Perla de Sosua has a policy of a $150 refundable security deposit for new customers that rent their apartments through their internet website or Expedia. If you are a recurring customer or a walk in their is no deposit.
That being said, your information is not current. You must have had tried to stay there over 5 years ago before the current owner bought the place and changed the policy.
Also, for those who care, Perla is not a hotel but and Aparta Hotel. They have units that are singles as well as one a two bedrooms with full kitchen (For guy who like to have their broads do more womanly stuff than just fuck).
You have to be kidding about Rockys, cant even understand why they would want a deposit, the place is a total dump, especially there rooms. Least I know how you roll. I would never stay there.You didn't understand Jaos post, he never said he stayed at Rockys. Marco also rents condos at tradewinds and the Palms. Those were the condos Jao was talking about. No one in there right mind would descibe Rockys as condos. A more fitting description wold be "midevil dungeon".
Charles Pooter
10-27-10, 21:55
You have to be kidding about Rockys, cant even understand why they would want a deposit, the place is a total dump, especially there rooms. Least I know how you roll. I would never stay there.
You are confused, sir. Jaosousa was writing about Rocky's condos at Tradewinds not the rooms in the bar itself. The latter were indeed very basic though much cheaper, more a backpacker kind of deal, but Jaosousa was not recommending those.
Good food, close to the action, great management and staff, friendly environment, excellent internet, and TV, and a huge screen for sports and movies.
Marc Anthony
10-28-10, 00:30
Insightful post. I have never associated squatting with the development of strong vaginal muscles. That is a very interesting observation.
Thanks,
Helpmann :)
Not really that the two are directly related, just that you find them together in some Haitian girls with good result. A chica who has not grown up squatting as she worked wouldn't have the muscle to hold a position over you and make controlled movements for very long. The cocomordan I think is a separate thing that comes from doing specific exercises (kegel). There might be some idiom in Kreyol to describe the result, like "ti bef" poetically describes a great BJ.
You are confused, sir. Jaosousa was writing about Rocky's condos at Tradewinds not the rooms in the bar itself. The latter were indeed very basic though much cheaper, more a backpacker kind of deal, but Jaosousa was not recommending those.When I first started going to Sosua the rooms in the bungalows at Rockys were about $14 per night. Rockys is the closest lodging to Classicos. Rooms are basic, no air conditioning when I stayed there (the condominium apartment at Tradewinds has an air conditioner). For Rockys, Marco would give you a key to the front gate which would be locked at night, you could enter late with some friends and sit at the sofas chatting and drinking inside until you wanted to go to your room. I never had any problems with Marco, good straight up guy.
Long time reader of posts here. Just back from Sosua, this is my 4th trip to Sosua. Wonderfull time, alot less guys than last year and it seems like the pricces have definately droped, due to the lack of tourist. Just wanted to comment on the tight p-ssy issue, I can't remember if ever having a dominican or a hatian girl with a loose p-ssy. It seems I've gotten much more loose p-ssy in the states.
You have to be kidding about Rockys, cant even understand why they would want a deposit, the place is a total dump, especially there rooms. Least I know how you roll. I would never stay there.You have no clue how I roll and you never will.
Basic English Grammar 101: THERE is when you are describing a location. My shoes are over THERE.
THEIR is used when describing the possessive. THEIR shoes are over there.
Especially their rooms.
Thanks Buscemi for your advice. I was definitely planning to hit La Passion in Sosua. The prices seem very reasonable compared to about $250 US for one of the top rung chicas at Madaho's or Blacks in Buenos Aires.
I'm leaning towards staying at New Garden in Sosua and hitting the clubs from there. With a lack of Spanish, will I be able to get by?
It was definitely a struggle in Buenos Aires, but I managed.
Learn Mil Quiniento or Mil Pesos ....just know the prices, and the rest is easy, make sure you lock down your valuables at all times in New Garden!
No reason to top tick, it is a buyer's market right now.
Happy Hoeing.
Buscemi
You have to be kidding about Rockys, cant even understand why they would want a deposit, the place is a total dump, especially there rooms. Least I know how you roll. I would never stay there.
We do not need your negative energy here, seriously.
I am not a shill for Rocky's, but I have met many lifetime friends there. It may not be a Mandarin Oriental Hotel, but it is safe, cheap, and clean plus the food will not make you sick. If you are such a baller, I assume you rent a 4 bedroom at Sea Horse Ranch? Try to contibute something worthwhile here putz.
Buscemi
not really that the two are directly related, just that you find them together in some haitian girls with good result. a chica who has not grown up squatting as she worked wouldn't have the muscle to hold a position over you and make controlled movements for very long. the cocomordan i think is a separate thing that comes from doing specific exercises (kegel). there might be some idiom in kreyol to describe the result, like "ti bef" poetically describes a great bj.bathrooms in dr many times are a little rough. i would imagine campo chicas don't have a nice comfortable clean toilet seat to sit on when they need to [CodeWord111] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord111) or defecate. squatting low while keeping their ass cheeks off a dirty surface is probably performed often by them.
nice position when they are over you and they balance all their weight on their folded legs and move up and down.
sport fucking works both ways. I've come to the conclusion that the Dominican chica exercises that pussy to stay tight. The girls grow up with only but one toy. I have yet to do a loose sloppy pussy here in the DR. Can anybody offer any better theories ??
I would be ROFL if your statement weren't so true - and frankly rather sad. The girls "clean up" so very well that we forget their life before the bar-scene and how they must live outside of Classico's. And if she enjoys her work, that classic horizontal exercise we share with them is enough to keep that snapper snappin' - ¿tengo razon?
Hi folks,
I have to tell you that this is my first ever visit to this site and I like what I see although I have been a long time member of both DR1 and ****. I am Rick, the NEW owner of Rocky's here in Sosua. I have owned it for the last two years and have made many improvements to both the restaurant and the rooms. Marco is still living here for those of you who know him. He is my back up and my night time security. We have a brotherly relationship.
Yes, Rocky's is a very basic hotel but I have installed air conditioning in all the rooms. We have purchased new beds, linens, towels and secured all the windows against those pesky mosquitos. We have color cable TV in all the rooms and a huge new screen to show sports and movies. We have purchased a new living room suite for you to relax on with friends or when just stopping by to see a movie. We have installed a 6 camera infared security system for yours and our piece of mind. Things are much better at Rocky's now and we enjoy a huge following of like minded people who don't mind saving some money on accommodations to give them a little more to spend on the chicas.
I know there are those of you who must have the best available accommodations when you travel and I don't blame you one bit for this. It's your money so do as you please. For those of you who enjoy a friendly atmosphere, good food, great staff and clean SECURE basic accommodations, please check us out. I'll do almost anything I can to make your stay with us as pleasent as possible. If you encounter a problem, I listen AND react to correct the situation.
When is Sosua, come on by and introduce yourselves. Take a look at the New Rocky's and check out the rooms. They are definately not for everyone but I know most will be pleasently surprised by all the positive changes I have made here at Rocky's.
Take care and I hope to meet many of you soon,
Rick
Chief Justice
10-28-10, 19:47
Hi folks,
I have to tell you that this is my first ever visit to this site and I like what I see although I have been a long time member of both DR1 and ****. I am Rick, the NEW owner of Rocky's here in Sosua. I have owned it for the last two years and have made many improvements to both the restaurant and the rooms. Marco is still living here for those of you who know him. He is my back up and my night time security. We have a brotherly relationship.
Yes, Rocky's is a very basic hotel but I have installed air conditioning in all the rooms. We have purchased new beds, linens, towels and secured all the windows against those pesky mosquitos. We have color cable TV in all the rooms and a huge new screen to show sports and movies. We have purchased a new living room suite for you to relax on with friends or when just stopping by to see a movie. We have installed a 6 camera infared security system for yours and our piece of mind. Things are much better at Rocky's now and we enjoy a huge following of like minded people who don't mind saving some money on accommodations to give them a little more to spend on the chicas.
I know there are those of you who must have the best available accommodations when you travel and I don't blame you one bit for this. It's your money so do as you please. For those of you who enjoy a friendly atmosphere, good food, great staff and clean SECURE basic accommodations, please check us out. I'll do almost anything I can to make your stay with us as pleasent as possible. If you encounter a problem, I listen AND react to correct the situation.
When is Sosua, come on by and introduce yourselves. Take a look at the New Rocky's and check out the rooms. They are definately not for everyone but I know most will be pleasently surprised by all the positive changes I have made here at Rocky's.
Take care and I hope to meet many of you soon,
RickAny photos?
I have met Rick a couple of times and we have many mutual friends in common. He iseems to be standup guy. I just came back from a week in Sosua and while I'm a committed NG guy, I heard many good things about the new Rocky's.
Rick
Good luck! Rocky's needed updating. I'm sure you'll do well.
Hi folks,
I have to tell you that this is my first ever visit to this site and I like what I see although I have been a long time member of both DR1 and ****. I am Rick, the NEW owner of Rocky's here in Sosua. I have owned it for the last two years and have made many improvements to both the restaurant and the rooms. Marco is still living here for those of you who know him. He is my back up and my night time security. We have a brotherly relationship.
Yes, Rocky's is a very basic hotel but I have installed air conditioning in all the rooms. We have purchased new beds, linens, towels and secured all the windows against those pesky mosquitos. We have color cable TV in all the rooms and a huge new screen to show sports and movies. We have purchased a new living room suite for you to relax on with friends or when just stopping by to see a movie. We have installed a 6 camera infared security system for yours and our piece of mind. Things are much better at Rocky's now and we enjoy a huge following of like minded people who don't mind saving some money on accommodations to give them a little more to spend on the chicas.
I know there are those of you who must have the best available accommodations when you travel and I don't blame you one bit for this. It's your money so do as you please. For those of you who enjoy a friendly atmosphere, good food, great staff and clean SECURE basic accommodations, please check us out. I'll do almost anything I can to make your stay with us as pleasent as possible. If you encounter a problem, I listen AND react to correct the situation.
When is Sosua, come on by and introduce yourselves. Take a look at the New Rocky's and check out the rooms. They are definately not for everyone but I know most will be pleasently surprised by all the positive changes I have made here at Rocky's.
Take care and I hope to meet many of you soon,
Rick
MiamiHeatLuver
10-28-10, 20:57
Yes, Rocky's is a very basic hotel but I have installed air conditioning in all the rooms. We have purchased new beds, linens, towels and secured all the windows against those pesky mosquitos. We have color cable TV in all the rooms and a huge new screen to show sports and movies. We have purchased a new living room suite for you to relax on with friends or when just stopping by to see a movie. We have installed a 6 camera infared security system for yours and our piece of mind.
Rick
Do you have digital safes? My idiot friend stayed at the SEA BREEZE and even though his shit was locked up, she got a hold of his Safe Key and took $500us and a credit card and charged 2 fill ups.. This guy is a drunken mess when he goes to the DR and we told him numerous times but doesnt listen so we consider this "part of the territory" when we take him with us. At night we now all exchange or hide our safe keys. A digital safe is much handier.
Do you have digital safes? My idiot friend stayed at the SEA BREEZE and even though his shit was locked up, she got a hold of his Safe Key and took $500us and a credit card and charged 2 fill ups.. This guy is a drunken mess when he goes to the DR and we told him numerous times but doesnt listen so we consider this "part of the territory" when we take him with us. At night we now all exchange or hide our safe keys. A digital safe is much handier.There is a hotel in santo domingo that does not have safes. I was always curious what the cost of a digital safe was. I always visit dealnews.com to see daily deals on electronics, clothes and travel. They showed a digital safe from harbor freight tools for $34.99 US. For that inexpensive price no hotel room should be without a safe. A large safe to fit a laptop is a plus.
http://www.harborfreight.com/037-cubic-ft-electronic-digital-safe-93575.html
Do you have digital safes? My idiot friend stayed at the SEA BREEZE and even though his shit was locked up, she got a hold of his Safe Key and took $500us and a credit card and charged 2 fill ups.. This guy is a drunken mess when he goes to the DR and we told him numerous times but doesnt listen so we consider this "part of the territory" when we take him with us. At night we now all exchange or hide our safe keys. A digital safe is much handier.Yes, all of our rooms and condos have digital safes bolted to the concrete walls. You won't have a problem with thefts out of your safes or break ins into your rooms at Rocky's. We are TOTALLY committed to your safety and security while you are on Rocky property.
MiamiHeatLuver
10-28-10, 23:11
There is a hotel in santo domingo that does not have safes. I was always curious what the cost of a digital safe was. I always visit dealnews.com to see daily deals on electronics, clothes and travel. They showed a digital safe from harbor freight tools for $34.99 US. For that inexpensive price no hotel room should be without a safe. A large safe to fit a laptop is a plus.
http://www.harborfreight.com/037-cubic-ft-electronic-digital-safe-93575.html
Thats a nice safe Jao, thats exactly what they have in the Europa.. I think asking for a large one that would accommodate a 15" plus laptop would just be asking to much for the DR, Though Heaven sent! I dont know, maybe this shit bro, http://www.pacsafe.com/www/index.php?_room=3&_action=detail&id=117 what do you think?
MiamiHeatLuver
10-28-10, 23:14
Yes, all of our rooms and condos have digital safes bolted to the concrete walls. You won't have a problem with thefts out of your safes or break ins into your rooms at Rocky's. We are TOTALLY committed to your safety and security while you are on Rocky property.
That sound nice! Why don't you update your website when the renovation is completely done.. Or if it is done already is your website updated? What are the prices please? TIA..
Thats a nice safe Jao, thats exactly what they have in the Europa.. I think asking for a large one that would accommodate a 15" plus laptop would just be asking to much for the DR, Though Heaven sent! I dont know, maybe this shit bro, http://www.pacsafe.com/www/index.php?_room=3&_action=detail&id=117 what do you think?Portable soft travel safe pouch, looks good. Have you tried it?
You are confused, sir. Jaosousa was writing about Rocky's condos at Tradewinds not the rooms in the bar itself. The latter were indeed very basic though much cheaper, more a backpacker kind of deal, but Jaosousa was not recommending those.
Why would either of you be commenting about discount joints when this is obviously slumming for you?
Why would either of you be commenting about discount joints when this is obviously slumming for you?I have chased them on the French Riviera, I didn't like the rocky beach in Nice, France. Playa Sosua has sand, which is much better than the stones they have on the beach in Nice.
Thats a nice safe Jao, thats exactly what they have in the Europa.. I think asking for a large one that would accommodate a 15" plus laptop would just be asking to much for the DR, Though Heaven sent! I dont know, maybe this shit bro, http://www.pacsafe.com/www/index.php?_room=3&_action=detail&id=117 what do you think?
I haven't looked at these, certainly I haven't tried them ... but I've wondered, too.
What's evident to me is that the PacSafe won't resist a determined effort to get at its contents, but a "surreptitious" effort - such as the one that a chambermaid, or your 'novia de la noche', might make to play Lady Light-Fingers with it - would be quite a bit more difficult. Especially if you had the drawstring cable looped and locked around a large and solidly-secured object like the bed frame - and you'd checked to make sure the object couldn't be disassembled to let a thief take the whole PacSafe and open it at leisure.
I must say I really appreciate the New Garden's digital safes! They seem quite secure, they aren't going anywhere, and it would take a lot of time to enter code after code after code in hopes of finding the magic numbers.
I have one of these but after carrying it with me for a time, I gave up trying to use it. It seems secure enough with the heavy gauge construction but my problem was finding something to secure it to. It's the only way you can be assured someone doesn't walk walk off with it. But few things in a hotel room meet those requirements. Almost everything in a room can be disassembled and one of the few relatively secure items, the toliet bowl is too large for the cable on mine.
I have one of these but after carrying it with me for a time, I gave up trying to use it. It seems secure enough with the heavy gauge construction but my problem was finding something to secure it to. It's the only way you can be assured someone doesn't walk walk off with it. But few things in a hotel room meet those requirements. Almost everything in a room can be disassembled and one of the few relatively secure items, the toliet bowl is too large for the cable on mine.
I've been using it for years. I agree it's only as sturdy as what you attach it to. The best place I ever attached it to is a couch frame but most hotels don't have one.
I bought a few other goodies off of www.coporatetravelsafety.com. You should look into a set of straps with locks attached to the buckle. People use these to attach surfboards and other things to their car roof. They would work on a dresser draw with handles.
All these things do is deter petty theft. They aren't meant to stop a planned robbery.
I have also come the conclusion that hotel safes aren't always secure as you might think. There IS a spare key floating around somewhere. I am starting to lock my valuables up in a locked bag *before putting it into a safe. This can help you from people trying to skim from your pile. If done the right way you would never know your money was being skimmed.
Mr Enternational
10-31-10, 08:23
I bought one of those Pac Safes as well after someone on this thread recommended it. I took it with me a few times then I got tired of carrying it around with me. For one, most places where I was using it already had a safe. Also I would usually attach it to a bed frame or in the closet around the bar and hook it through a couple of hangers as well. I got tired of having to undo the whole contraption each time I forgot to take something out or put something in. It is well designed and constructed but can be a pain in the ass for frequent use.
tripadvisor dot com has several current reviews.
Please visit Perla's website. Jaosousa seems to have a lot of comments but, it never seems like anything he says is current so, If I were you I would visit their website and get their policies directly from them. Also, it is one of the few places in Sosua that you can book online and get airport pick up.
The Dirty Pirate
10-31-10, 19:28
Going to Sosua, first time, where should I stay? Live in CR for a couple years, mongered in numerous Latin American countries.
Going to Sosua, first time, where should I stay? Live in CR for a couple years, mongered in numerous Latin American countries.
Many men hang there and will advise you.
I bought one of those Pac Safes as well after someone on this thread recommended it. I took it with me a few times then I got tired of carrying it around with me. For one, most places where I was using it already had a safe. Also I would usually attach it to a bed frame or in the closet around the bar and hook it through a couple of hangers as well. I got tired of having to undo the whole contraption each time I forgot to take something out or put something in. It is well designed and constructed but can be a pain in the ass for frequent use.
The best of the pacsafe products I found is the smaller fanny bag that they sell (they have two sizes). When I go to the airport, and when passing through security, I place my wallet, house keys, important documents in it, and just lock it up. It is not unusual in some places for your luggage to pass through the xray machine before you do. One time, when I arrive to Santo Domingo, passed my bag through security, and by the time they were finished checking me out the woman on the other end was trying desperately to open my fanny bag. She simply couldn't figure it out. Sometimes some of the airport workers try to steal or shake down tourists for money. There were so many complaints made to the Dominican Consulate that signs are now posted in the airports (in Spanish) about giving people money.
In the hotels, it is not just the chicas but also the workers who will take items. Even with a digital safe there is a way of overriding it (many forget their password). Anything with a key lock, believe me, someone has a copy of the key (just in case someone gets locked out). I see people use the fanny bag in the streets but I have found it to be cumbersome. What I do is anchor it inside the safe (I've done this at the Europa, New Garden, And Terra Linda.) and place original documents, airline tickets, house keys, large sums of money, and what not in there. Enternaitonal is correct in that it can sometimes be a pain to open and close Pacsafe products so to compensate I leave some money outside the fanny bag but in the safe. If someone enters the safe they will not take the contents of the fanny bag but the small sum. Pacsafe are portable, light, security, and if someone wants to break into these items they will but it is more of a deterrent. Except for maintenance the average hotel worker or chica will not carry around wire cutters or other tools to break into things.
One time I was a bike messenger in New York, a city notorious for theft of cycles. I must have called a dozen bike shops up about what would be the best lock, only to come to the conclusion (as one bicycle dealer told me) that if they wanted to steal my bike they would. I could not stop them. I went out and purchased three types of locks, needing three different tools to break. At one of my job sites I met a client who was a bicycle thief. This is what he did to make money. He entered my work area because he saw my bike. We started talking and he said that he would not steal my bike because it would take too much time. Thieves need time to steal. Slow them up or discourage them.
I recall when I was checking out Hotel Valeria I found their rules to be very strict. I hesitated and the gentleman noticed my reaction. I mentioned one story that one of the guests was staying at Hotel Valeria and one day decided to stay three days at Cabarete, with a chica. He ended up calling Valeria, since he also still staying there, and told thee owner that the chica he was with stole his camera and $300!. The hotel paid for a cab to pick him up. One can never be too safe, especially in a foreign country.
I guess the problem with all security is that it tends to be time consuming. Rarely is security nonintrusive in one form or another.
Been to DR many times, I cannot recommend Rockys, its a dump. Stay in New Garden( the new wing or Don Antonio) just google either one with DR in at end of each and there web site will come up.. New Garden is around 60 Us per night and Don Antonio is like 30.00. But New garden is much nicer.
Going to Sosua, first time, where should I stay? Live in CR for a couple years, mongered in numerous Latin American countries.
Many men hang there and will advise you.For price, location and a manager who speaks English and who has lived in Sosua for many years and who will help out a monger, Rockys would be my choice.
If the guy wants ultra luxury, those accommodations can be found nearby with prices of $3,000 US per night and up.
Mr Enternational
11-01-10, 07:03
I have chased them on the French Riviera, I didn't like the rocky beach in Nice, France. Playa Sosua has sand, which is much better than the stones they have on the beach in Nice.I can't agree with you more brother....
Jargrophob
11-01-10, 07:58
Does anybody know where I can buy US-quality lubricant in Sosua or Puerto Plata?
Astroglide, KY, etc? Maybe some flavors.
Any good sex shops around?
Have been in Sosua last month, I didn't notice too many changes with october 2009. It is stille the easiest place in DR to meet pros. Non pros do exist, but the eventual price will be higher. Price range from 1500. Most girls will leave you room anyway after you came for the first time, so I dont't think there is a lot of bennefit for a long time chica, advise to speak at least some Spanish. Also if your hotel is not girlfriendly it is possible to rent some short time near merenque bar for 300 pesos.
Does anybody know where I can buy US-quality lubricant in Sosua or Puerto Plata?
Astroglide, KY, etc? Maybe some flavors.
Any good sex shops around?There is a new sex shop called fantasy world. I talked to the owner he is a cool dominican that also lives in Brooklyn. They have a couple cute girls working there that are very helpful. Its located right next to Seacrets on the street.
[QUOTE=Boriman]The best of the pacsafe products I found is the smaller fanny bag that they sell (they have two sizes). When I go to the airport, and when passing through security, I place my wallet, house keys, important documents in it, and just lock it up. It is not unusual in some places for your luggage to pass through the xray machine before you do. One time, when I arrive to Santo Domingo, passed my bag through security, and by the time they were finished checking me out the woman on the other end was trying desperately to open my fanny bag. She simply couldn't figure it out. Sometimes some of the airport workers try to steal or shake down tourists for money.
Having worked at the airport as a baggage handler systems agent. Do not believe that they cannot open that bag. If there is security at that airport, they have the key for any & every bag. If you do not want your personal items tampered with, I suggest you carry that bag through the check point, let them check it out. This is the only way you will know that it is safe a secure. One last thing, if you see a rip on that bag. Either the xray machine did it or they got in that bag. Believe me no bag is secure!
Blk Big Bootyluv
11-02-10, 05:36
Now I've had boots on a the ground for about 2weeks now and I've been in Sosua for about a week of the 2. I can unequivocally say that I have never seen so many Americans here and I can say I'm sick and tired of see'n the cops harassing the chicas. Now putting both of those items into perspective I can see how they are directly related to one another.
Unfortunately I'm seeing a lot of disrespect from the visitors to the locals. I know we come here and make the most of our time and money but when ppl come over to my house they don't come in a kick over my fuck'n TV and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on my floor. IMHO I think some of these visitor need to exercise a little class and respect for the locals. I'm not saying ppl should be naive but DUDE?
I'm all for a man making a buck but over the years our paradise has been exposed and videos/video producers like this and some others that I won't name have brought so much attention here that this added attention has evoked a response from the powers that be here. The shit sucks. Only share with those that do what you do.
I don't see as many cops back home like I've seen this week here in Sosua. Things are changing here and the question is are you ready to adapt to the change.
Mike Hammer
11-02-10, 11:22
I'm sick and tired of see'n the cops harassing the chicas. Now putting both of those items into perspective I can see how they are directly related to one another.
It is all a question of discretion, local government would not do much if they wouldn´t had been pushed by people that dislike the usual displays of disparate couples kissing and fondling in the street and loud speaking drunkards making the hell out of the streets, being they american or not. It is not a question of nationality.
When you have a good place where to practice our sport, one of the first rules is not to spoil the ground, so everybody could play afterwards.
So the point is not to take the place as you are the four horsemen of the apocalipsis, but to be gentle and take the most of that country without the local people noticing.
You have to be kidding? The whole place is pretty dirty and has prostitutes all over the place. Pretty hard for even a blind person not to notice. WTF?
It is all a question of discretion, local government would not do much if they wouldn´t had been pushed by people that dislike the usual displays of disparate couples kissing and fondling in the street and loud speaking drunkards making the hell out of the streets, being they american or not. It is not a question of nationality.
When you have a good place where to practice our sport, one of the first rules is not to spoil the ground, so everybody could play afterwards.
So the point is not to take the place as you are the four horsemen of the apocalipsis, but to be gentle and take the most of that country without the local people noticing.
The whole place is pretty dirty and has prostitutes all over the place.
My kind of place! Can't wait for my trip at the end of this month!
Marc Anthony
11-03-10, 08:12
It is all a question of discretion, local government would not do much if they wouldn´t had been pushed by people that dislike the usual displays of disparate couples kissing and fondling in the street and loud speaking drunkards making the hell out of the streets, being they american or not. It is not a question of nationality.
When you have a good place where to practice our sport, one of the first rules is not to spoil the ground, so everybody could play afterwards.
So the point is not to take the place as you are the four horsemen of the apocalipsis, but to be gentle and take the most of that country without the local people noticing.
If Costa Rica closes down the Del Rey and a few other bars and MPs you might as well say the country is closed as a mongering destination. The DR on the other hand is actually a mongering culture. Every little crossroads in the campo has a disco tipico with available chicas. You can pick up chicas anywhere in the entire friggin country. Also, dominicans have certain tendencies in the drunken fratboy celebration department as well.
I think you have hit on exactly the right word to describe the dominican attitude to this though, discretion. Just about every Dominican man with even a little money or power has a mistress, a couple of girlfriends and still has time to bang his secretary and pick up new chicas on special occasions. The power structure of this country completely buys into chica chasing as a hobby - but they firmly believe that respectable guys keep it discreet. They frown on making a public show of it. Passions and the new place next door are kind of a foreign anomaly. The DR as you are well aware has a LOT of brothels but they are as you have noticed if you ever tried to find them...very discreet. It's not Pataya. They look generally like regular houses or offices.
There is a big construction boom in SD despite the recession and all that invested narcomoney doesn't want indiscreet sex workers making it even a tiny bit harder to sell. It's kind of like those real estate "stagers" who come in and rearrange the furniture and put an apple pie in the oven. Sweeping hookers off the streets isn't real important but at least it's easy.
If Costa Rica closes down the Del Rey and a few other bars and MPs you might as well say the country is closed as a mongering destination. The DR on the other hand is actually a mongering culture. Every little crossroads in the campo has a disco tipico with available chicas. You can pick up chicas anywhere in the entire friggin country. Also, dominicans have certain tendencies in the drunken fratboy celebration department as well.
I think you have hit on exactly the right word to describe the dominican attitude to this though, discretion. Just about every Dominican man with even a little money or power has a mistress, a couple of girlfriends and still has time to bang his secretary and pick up new chicas on special occasions. The power structure of this country completely buys into chica chasing as a hobby - but they firmly believe that respectable guys keep it discreet. They frown on making a public show of it. Passions and the new place next door are kind of a foreign anomaly. The DR as you are well aware has a LOT of brothels but they are as you have noticed if you ever tried to find them...very discreet. It's not Pataya. They look generally like regular houses or offices.
There is a big construction boom in SD despite the recession and all that invested narcomoney doesn't want indiscreet sex workers making it even a tiny bit harder to sell. It's kind of like those real estate "stagers" who come in and rearrange the furniture and put an apple pie in the oven. Sweeping hookers off the streets isn't real important but at least it's easy.Hit the nail right on the head.
Marc Anthony
11-03-10, 08:40
My comment about mongering being a part of the culture reminded me of the day a missionary monk visited my high school religion class. I went to a catholic boys school run by an order of brothers. Completely true story.
This guy was telling about running his mission school someplace in South America, Columbia or Peru I think.
The school had a successful soccer team and the big game was coming up and the star player came up to him and said "Brother, I can't make it to play."
The monk was shocked. He asked "Why can't you make it? What's so important that you have to miss the biggest game of the year?"
The kid said "Brother, it's my 15th birthday."
The monk was just puzzled. "So what's so important about your 15th birthday that it's more important than playing in the biggest match of the year?".
"Brother, it's my 15th birthday, my dad is taking me to the brothel."
That guy knew how to tell a story that got us more interested in the missions. Everybody was thinking, damn that's what I want for my 15th birthday.
Entirely straight recollection - and i think the missionary was telling a real story, even if structured with a punchline.
So, I haven't posted in this forum in a while because most of the information tends to be repetitive but I feel the need to post about a recent untasteful experience in Sosua (amongst other things). Once I landed, I had a friend waiting to pick me up from the airport. My stay was planned to be a short one and I really didn't want to take a taxi or motoconcho everywhere. So I decided I wanted to rent a car for a few days. The first quote I was quoted at the airport was 70 dollars per day with insurance. Lmfao. Are you serious was my reaction. No thanks I'll find something cheaper. Next company quoted 60, and the original one then told me 55. Then some guy is draggin by my arm and in my face saying what kind of car you need wha kie wha kie. Eh eh. Now, remembering that a few months ago that I rented a car from the airport for 40 dollars WITH insurance just pissed me off even more. So, Ok ok ok ok. After all of this I was mentally frustrated and just said, the hell with the airport rentals I'll find something when I get to Sosua.
So I settled my things in Hotel Europa and started to make my ways around. On foot! While I was walking toward Classicos from Europa. I noticed there was a car rental spot on the right hand side of the street. I was quoted 35 dollars a day (with insurance) by this cool ass dude Ricardo and he said they'll drop me to the airport when I'm done. I said no problem I'll get the car tomorrow. Next day I came back and spoke with the "jefe" and said I wanted to rent the car. Could you believe this mthrfckr told me 50 dollars per day (w insurance). I explained to him I was quoted a different price from Ricardo, to which he said sorry he couldn't help me on that price. I decided to bite the bullet and pay the 50 dollar a day rental in cash. He also explained to me that a ride to the airport is included. I took the car for three days and paid 150 up front and gave him my Credit card to which he put a security deposit of 150 on it. He said it will be returned to me once I bring the car back. Why the f did I do that. Smh!
So anyway I became cool with Ricardo he hung out with me and some friends during my stay. Even hooked me up with a chica or two. So on my last day (departure) Ricardo met me at my hotel where I was staying. While I was getting my things the "Jefe" was driving around and saw him. He told him to tell me that I have to pay an extra 20 for a ride to the airport! That piece of s-t muthrfckr I said to myself. I said to Ricardo that it was included with the rental. He said he knew that but the reason why he did that was because I'm not a Dominican and he only extends courtesy to Dominicans or cuts breaks to them. Ricardo also expressed his disgust to him as well. I'm assuming He thought I was Hatian because I am black and my other friend that came with me was Hatian and speaking Creole to him. But I am not hatian! The principal is, his word said that I'm getting a ride to the airport which is included and he lied to me rig in front of my face! So, as furious as I was, I told Ricardo to take me to the airport and I gave him gas money to fill the car up. BAD MISTAKE!
When I got home I checked my credit card statement that bastard manager didn't return my security deposit. I'm currently disputing the charge 150 dollars at that! Moral of the story. Don't rent any cars from this guy. Once again this place is located on the same side of the street as Europa but going in the direction of Classicos disco. Its on the next block after Europa right after those two bars. If any of you guys plan on goin down there or is down there now, don't waste a cent on this guy! And I would personally appreciate it if you tell the manager to go F himself and you know how he does business! Very Very Very shady character. Karma is a mother fckr!
Which going on makes me say!
I'm a believer in "good business" over the fast buck! Dominicans to me seem horrible at good marketable business! They seem to be out for the fast buck only! Completely forgetting that this can and possibly will be a returning customer in the near future. This seems to be the mentality of 80 percent of the people that do business there. I am not making a blanket statement and saying that all Dominicans are like that but I'm speaking from my experience. And my mentality adapts to everything else. For example I rent an apartment from this french lady every now and then when I visit. She hounds me to turn off the lights when I leave, but wants to charge more for air conditioner but then never changes the bed sheets? So come to think about it what exactly am I paying for? I bring my own stuff but the point that I'm trying to make is the business owner need to look at the bigger picture!
And as far as the car rental goes, how can you,
You give me a piece of shit Honda Crv with 4 bald tires running on fumes of gas, Cd player not working, ball joints worn to shit, a/c blowing cold and hot air, and steering out of alignment and expect me to take you, better yet your business seriously or even charge 50 dollars for that vehicle! Then insult me and my money by telling me I have to pay for a ride to the airport to which your piece of shit vehicle will be getting more fuel in it then what it originally had.
In my opinion that's why people have such a problem with businesses out there. Whats so hard about keeping it simple/cheap honest /and realiable?
All I want to do when I go down there is drive around in a safe reliable vehicle, fuck the biggest roundest asses that I can find, drink to my hearts content, hang out on the beach, and make new friends, and not be harassed!
That's not too much to ask! Dominican Republic can and will you ever be able to provide this for me? Most of my trips are good but never consistent! One thing always over weighs another.
Smh. Guess thats the way the cookie crumbles. My venting is done!
At the end of the day. You paid it and at every chance you had an option to say no! So whay are you complaining?
Slimtower hello, 150 for security deposit? Here's the way it works when I do it.
I always rent from Jose, hes next to Newgarden. He takes great care of his vehicles and gives me a great price with insurance. Even the insurance has a deductible which is usually 1000usd. He uses the hand credit card machine and rolls over your card. Then you sign. He then gives you back your CC and agrees to return the signed page and all carbons when the vehicle is safely returned. But you pay the daily fee in cash.
At the airport if you use a CC, they will put a hold on the deductible amount that will take 24 hours to release after you've returned the car. Sometimes you can pay extra to have a zero deductible but they will still put a hold on your card sometimes. Thats why I stopped using the big boys.
The 150 you paid as a deposit shouldve been returned with all paper work. Did they have an electronic CC machine? Did you get any final paper work? And why did you keep dealing with them after they lied about the airport drop off?
Chief Justice
11-04-10, 04:34
So, I haven't posted in this forum in a while because most of the information tends to be repetitive but I feel the need to post about a recent untasteful experience in Sosua (amongst other things). Once I landed, I had a friend waiting to pick me up from the airport. My stay was planned to be a short one and I really didn't want to take a taxi or motoconcho everywhere. So I decided I wanted to rent a car for a few days. The first quote I was quoted at the airport was 70 dollars per day with insurance. Lmfao. Are you serious was my reaction. No thanks I'll find something cheaper. Next company quoted 60, and the original one then told me 55. Then some guy is draggin by my arm and in my face saying what kind of car you need wha kie wha kie. Eh eh. Now, remembering that a few months ago that I rented a car from the airport for 40 dollars WITH insurance just pissed me off even more. So, Ok ok ok ok. After all of this I was mentally frustrated and just said, the hell with the airport rentals I'll find something when I get to Sosua.
So I settled my things in Hotel Europa and started to make my ways around. On foot! While I was walking toward Classicos from Europa. I noticed there was a car rental spot on the right hand side of the street. I was quoted 35 dollars a day (with insurance) by this cool ass dude Ricardo and he said they'll drop me to the airport when I'm done. I said no problem I'll get the car tomorrow. Next day I came back and spoke with the "jefe" and said I wanted to rent the car. Could you believe this mthrfckr told me 50 dollars per day (w insurance). I explained to him I was quoted a different price from Ricardo, to which he said sorry he couldn't help me on that price. I decided to bite the bullet and pay the 50 dollar a day rental in cash. He also explained to me that a ride to the airport is included. I took the car for three days and paid 150 up front and gave him my Credit card to which he put a security deposit of 150 on it. He said it will be returned to me once I bring the car back. Why the f did I do that. Smh!
So anyway I became cool with Ricardo he hung out with me and some friends during my stay. Even hooked me up with a chica or two. So on my last day (departure) Ricardo met me at my hotel where I was staying. While I was getting my things the "Jefe" was driving around and saw him. He told him to tell me that I have to pay an extra 20 for a ride to the airport! That piece of s-t muthrfckr I said to myself. I said to Ricardo that it was included with the rental. He said he knew that but the reason why he did that was because I'm not a Dominican and he only extends courtesy to Dominicans or cuts breaks to them. Ricardo also expressed his disgust to him as well. I'm assuming He thought I was Hatian because I am black and my other friend that came with me was Hatian and speaking Creole to him. But I am not hatian! The principal is, his word said that I'm getting a ride to the airport which is included and he lied to me rig in front of my face! So, as furious as I was, I told Ricardo to take me to the airport and I gave him gas money to fill the car up. BAD MISTAKE!
When I got home I checked my credit card statement that bastard manager didn't return my security deposit. I'm currently disputing the charge 150 dollars at that! Moral of the story. Don't rent any cars from this guy. Once again this place is located on the same side of the street as Europa but going in the direction of Classicos disco. Its on the next block after Europa right after those two bars. If any of you guys plan on goin down there or is down there now, don't waste a cent on this guy! And I would personally appreciate it if you tell the manager to go F himself and you know how he does business! Very Very Very shady character. Karma is a mother fckr!
Which going on makes me say!
I'm a believer in "good business" over the fast buck! Dominicans to me seem horrible at good marketable business! They seem to be out for the fast buck only! Completely forgetting that this can and possibly will be a returning customer in the near future. This seems to be the mentality of 80 percent of the people that do business there. I am not making a blanket statement and saying that all Dominicans are like that but I'm speaking from my experience. And my mentality adapts to everything else. For example I rent an apartment from this french lady every now and then when I visit. She hounds me to turn off the lights when I leave, but wants to charge more for air conditioner but then never changes the bed sheets? So come to think about it what exactly am I paying for? I bring my own stuff but the point that I'm trying to make is the business owner need to look at the bigger picture!
And as far as the car rental goes, how can you,
You give me a piece of shit Honda Crv with 4 bald tires running on fumes of gas, Cd player not working, ball joints worn to shit, a/c blowing cold and hot air, and steering out of alignment and expect me to take you, better yet your business seriously or even charge 50 dollars for that vehicle! Then insult me and my money by telling me I have to pay for a ride to the airport to which your piece of shit vehicle will be getting more fuel in it then what it originally had.
In my opinion that's why people have such a problem with businesses out there. Whats so hard about keeping it simple/cheap honest /and realiable?
All I want to do when I go down there is drive around in a safe reliable vehicle, fuck the biggest roundest asses that I can find, drink to my hearts content, hang out on the beach, and make new friends, and not be harassed!
That's not too much to ask! Dominican Republic can and will you ever be able to provide this for me? Most of my trips are good but never consistent! One thing always over weighs another.
Smh. Guess thats the way the cookie crumbles. My venting is done!Yea dominicans are the worse pple to do business with I hate to say. I heard its best to deal with the name brand companies if you rent a car in d. R. The moms and pops will pop you. LOL
I always rent from adventure, its not dirt cheap , its around 60.00 bucks a day, but i have never had a problem and the car was always beat up a little but was always clean inside and ran well. I dont like renting stuff from some retart and once i was lied to I would have never rented the car even if i had to pay more somewhere else'
So, I haven't posted in this forum in a while because most of the information tends to be repetitive but I feel the need to post about a recent untasteful experience in Sosua (amongst other things). Once I landed, I had a friend waiting to pick me up from the airport. My stay was planned to be a short one and I really didn't want to take a taxi or motoconcho everywhere. So I decided I wanted to rent a car for a few days. The first quote I was quoted at the airport was 70 dollars per day with insurance. Lmfao. Are you serious was my reaction. No thanks I'll find something cheaper. Next company quoted 60, and the original one then told me 55. Then some guy is draggin by my arm and in my face saying what kind of car you need wha kie wha kie. Eh eh. Now, remembering that a few months ago that I rented a car from the airport for 40 dollars WITH insurance just pissed me off even more. So, Ok ok ok ok. After all of this I was mentally frustrated and just said, the hell with the airport rentals I'll find something when I get to Sosua.
So I settled my things in Hotel Europa and started to make my ways around. On foot! While I was walking toward Classicos from Europa. I noticed there was a car rental spot on the right hand side of the street. I was quoted 35 dollars a day (with insurance) by this cool ass dude Ricardo and he said they'll drop me to the airport when I'm done. I said no problem I'll get the car tomorrow. Next day I came back and spoke with the "jefe" and said I wanted to rent the car. Could you believe this mthrfckr told me 50 dollars per day (w insurance). I explained to him I was quoted a different price from Ricardo, to which he said sorry he couldn't help me on that price. I decided to bite the bullet and pay the 50 dollar a day rental in cash. He also explained to me that a ride to the airport is included. I took the car for three days and paid 150 up front and gave him my Credit card to which he put a security deposit of 150 on it. He said it will be returned to me once I bring the car back. Why the f did I do that. Smh!
So anyway I became cool with Ricardo he hung out with me and some friends during my stay. Even hooked me up with a chica or two. So on my last day (departure) Ricardo met me at my hotel where I was staying. While I was getting my things the "Jefe" was driving around and saw him. He told him to tell me that I have to pay an extra 20 for a ride to the airport! That piece of s-t muthrfckr I said to myself. I said to Ricardo that it was included with the rental. He said he knew that but the reason why he did that was because I'm not a Dominican and he only extends courtesy to Dominicans or cuts breaks to them. Ricardo also expressed his disgust to him as well. I'm assuming He thought I was Hatian because I am black and my other friend that came with me was Hatian and speaking Creole to him. But I am not hatian! The principal is, his word said that I'm getting a ride to the airport which is included and he lied to me rig in front of my face! So, as furious as I was, I told Ricardo to take me to the airport and I gave him gas money to fill the car up. BAD MISTAKE!
When I got home I checked my credit card statement that bastard manager didn't return my security deposit. I'm currently disputing the charge 150 dollars at that! Moral of the story. Don't rent any cars from this guy. Once again this place is located on the same side of the street as Europa but going in the direction of Classicos disco. Its on the next block after Europa right after those two bars. If any of you guys plan on goin down there or is down there now, don't waste a cent on this guy! And I would personally appreciate it if you tell the manager to go F himself and you know how he does business! Very Very Very shady character. Karma is a mother fckr!
Which going on makes me say!
I'm a believer in "good business" over the fast buck! Dominicans to me seem horrible at good marketable business! They seem to be out for the fast buck only! Completely forgetting that this can and possibly will be a returning customer in the near future. This seems to be the mentality of 80 percent of the people that do business there. I am not making a blanket statement and saying that all Dominicans are like that but I'm speaking from my experience. And my mentality adapts to everything else. For example I rent an apartment from this french lady every now and then when I visit. She hounds me to turn off the lights when I leave, but wants to charge more for air conditioner but then never changes the bed sheets? So come to think about it what exactly am I paying for? I bring my own stuff but the point that I'm trying to make is the business owner need to look at the bigger picture!
And as far as the car rental goes, how can you,
You give me a piece of shit Honda Crv with 4 bald tires running on fumes of gas, Cd player not working, ball joints worn to shit, a/c blowing cold and hot air, and steering out of alignment and expect me to take you, better yet your business seriously or even charge 50 dollars for that vehicle! Then insult me and my money by telling me I have to pay for a ride to the airport to which your piece of shit vehicle will be getting more fuel in it then what it originally had.
In my opinion that's why people have such a problem with businesses out there. Whats so hard about keeping it simple/cheap honest /and realiable?
All I want to do when I go down there is drive around in a safe reliable vehicle, fuck the biggest roundest asses that I can find, drink to my hearts content, hang out on the beach, and make new friends, and not be harassed!
That's not too much to ask! Dominican Republic can and will you ever be able to provide this for me? Most of my trips are good but never consistent! One thing always over weighs another.
Smh. Guess thats the way the cookie crumbles. My venting is done!
just returned from another great trip to sosua......my pics are in the photo section for your review.
contacted the sosua beach resort just a few days from my arrival and made my reservation via email. as you may already know, the "beach resort" is essentially just the mongering section of the sosua bay hotel. $50 a night for a garden view room, breakfast included.....i think this place is perfect, second time i've stayed there.....it is part of an all inclusive but you get a white wristband and not all the all inclusive stuff, but who wants that anyway?? you still get the run of the hotel, it's right on the beach, a great property with great security and very quiet at night for rest. wifi works great in the lobby, but not in the rooms. best deal in town, my opinion. very chica friendly, but you must use the "mongering entrance" with chicas in the evening.
i did take a tour through tierre linde while i was there, just to see it.....very nice, but more expensive and not right on the beach. it would be my second choice.
the sosua bay seemed pretty empty as did most of the hotels in town....still tons of chicas available, both dominican and haitiano, especially in the evening, and didn't see any hassles from the local police, although the girls all told me there had been problems. it is definitely a buyers market right now, the mongers have the leverage.
i do some scuba diving every time i go to sosua and was glad to see the dive shop at sosua bay had reopened (closed last time i was there) with new u.s. owners, chuck and wendy.....did some great wreck diving on the zingara wreck and had a chance to learn how to spearfish and kill some of the invasive lionfish that have infested all caribbean waters in the past 10 years.....this was really a blast and i would highly recommend it!! i don't mean to shill for a dive shop, but i know a lot of visiting mongers have little to do in the morning or afternoon.....you can take an intro to scuba class for only $65 and a full certification course for $350; a really excellent deal, and the cert is for life....the new shop is called superior dive in sosua, and i highly recommend them.
i searched for chicas in all the usual spots along the main drag, took some to my hotel and some to the calypso; a "short time" hotel with rooms for 400 rd (around $11). the calypso is kind of a dump, sometimes the water wasn't even running and had to use a big bucket of cold water to rinse off with prior to the fun......pretty funny to watch the chicas pouring cold water on themselves with a big ladle.....until i realized that some of them probably have to do this all the time!!.....i'd like to find a better alternative for hourly rooms if anyone has some suggestions.....in fact, i'd really like to find a place to take chicas to who just don't have the required cedulas, if anyone has some suggestions.......not going for ****, but some of the locals and the haitianos either don't have them or only have a paper copy, and the sosua bay just would not accept anything but the plastic copy in excellent shape.
i found the chicas asking for 2000 rd initially, the usual intial asking price, but i usually got them to 1500 rd or even less if it was early in the day (i like to get my first chica at around noon time right after diving). the talent varied from excellent to just average....as usual, i found the best overall service came from the chicas i would rate as 6-7 in looks vice the 8-10's. did some repeats with chicas i connected with. service usually included dfk, bbbj and full service in mish, cowboy and doggie. i really like 69, but found some of the chicas had really bad pussy odor, even after i scrubbed them thoroughly in the shower!! go figure!! the best looking chicas don't always like to kiss, either, a downer for me.
i took one chica to her own little room and it was quite the adventure, third world experience, not for the faint of heart, but it was still fun. i would not recommend that unless you are pretty street wise and ready to rumble; absolutely no security in that situation, but she couldn't get iinto my hotel with her paper copy cedula and she turned out to be one of the most fun and enthusiastic chicas i met there.
checked out passions one night and i was very impressed with all the new construction....years ago that place was just another open air bar with a few rooms in back; now it's all neon and glitter and very classy looking....the chicas there are all 8-10's, but i didn't partake as i was not in the mood and they are pretty pricey for the local area. didn't get to check out the new rooms in back, but i suspect they must be pretty nice if the rest of the place is any indication. you can negotiate better in town, but if the price is no factor, probably not a bad deal.....they have all night take out options, too!!
for dinner i did la roca one night, bailey's one night (really nice place!!) and barbecue chicken and platanos from a street vendor one night (not such a good idea....got a little sick).....also some great italian pasta from a place close to the jolly roger that was superb!!
overall, another excellent trip to sosua...........perhaps not the supreme mongering destiination in the world, but you can't beat the convenience and proximity to the u.s. at a location that includes a nice beach and a variety of ocean sports.
thanks as always to previous posters who have shared info with me!! i would really appreciate some suggestions for hotels/apartments that do not require cedulas.........happy mongering!!
...Contacted the Sosua Beach Resort just a few days from my arrival and made my reservation via email. As you may already know, the "Beach Resort" is essentially just the mongering section of the Sosua Bay Hotel. $50 a night for a garden view room, breakfast included.....I think this place is perfect, second time I've stayed there.....it is part of an all inclusive but you get a white wristband and not all the all inclusive stuff, but who wants that anyway?? You still get the run of the hotel, it's right on the beach, a great property with great security and very QUIET at night for rest. WIFI works great in the lobby, but not in the rooms. Best deal in town, my opinion. Very chica friendly, but you must use the "mongering entrance" with chicas in the evening...Great trip report! It sounds like you had an excellent time! I cannot agree more when it comes to extra-curricular ocean activities. I got PADI certified a few years in Juan Dolio. I love the women; however, if one is the Caribbean, one has to take advantage of all of its benefits. Spearfishing sounds like a blast and I would love to learn. Please post or PM the web page for that. Also, great hotel information!
Thanks,
Helpmann :)
Hey nice report from zip head. I am also going to sosua bay hotel on dec 20-23rd, hotel look nice. You mention it is a chica friendly. Do they charge any extra money to bring the chicas? All nighters are fine with the hotel managments? Just want so make sure so I proceed my selections of chica when I get there.
Take care
I do some scuba diving every time I go to Sosua and was glad to see the dive shop at Sosua Bay had reopened (closed last time I was there) with new U.S. owners, Chuck and Wendy.....did some great wreck diving on the Zingara wreck and had a chance to learn how to spearfish and kill some of the invasive lionfish that have infested all Caribbean waters in the past 10 years.....this was really a BLAST and I would highly recommend it!!
Great report, Zip Head - spearfishing, eh? That sounds cool, and it should indeed be 'open season' on the Caribbean lionfish. They are nasty customers, even if they are photogenic.
Good to hear about another scuba operation in Sosua. I made no bones about my shill for Scuba Elite, a couple of weeks ago; I am glad to know about another top-notch dive shop, just in case Kerrie is out of town next time I visit Sosua.
Sounds like you were quite adventurous beyond the diving. Good for you! And thanks for your report!
Just returned from another great trip to Sosua......my pics are in the photo section for your review. Very nice. The flaca in your room in the Sosua Bay Hotel, smooth skin, no stretch marks, attractive chica.
Waiting in a line at a hotel to check in a chica so she can visit your room can be annoying. You may want to consider renting an apartment in Sosua for a future trip. Large refrigerator and gas stove, you can prepare your own food or get one of your novias to cook for you.
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i searched for chicas in all the usual spots along the main drag, took some to my hotel and some to the calypso; a "short time" hotel with rooms for 400 rd (around $11). the calypso is kind of a dump, sometimes the water wasn't even running and had to use a big bucket of cold water to rinse off with prior to the fun......pretty funny to watch the chicas pouring cold water on themselves with a big ladle.....until i realized that some of them probably have to do this all the time!!.....i'd like to find a better alternative for hourly rooms if anyone has some suggestions.....in fact, i'd really like to find a place to take chicas to who just don't have the required cedulas, if anyone has some suggestions.......not going for ****, but some of the locals and the haitianos either don't have them or only have a paper copy, and the sosua bay just would not accept anything but the plastic copy in excellent shape.
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try the cabana love n care. on the road to cabarete on the outskirts of sosua. if i remember correctly, 600p for un rato. very nice with hot water, a/c, and very comfy bed.
SavePros321
11-05-10, 04:40
I searched for chicas in all the usual spots along the main drag, took some to my hotel and some to the Calypso; a "short time" hotel with rooms for 400 RD (around $11). The Calypso is kind of a dump, sometimes the water wasn't even running and had to use a big bucket of cold water to rinse off with prior to the fun......pretty funny to watch the chicas pouring cold water on themselves with a big ladle.....until I realized that some of them probably have to do this all the time!!.....
The Sosua Bay seemed pretty empty as did most of the hotels in town....still tons of chicas available, both Dominican and Haitiano, especially in the evening, and didn't see any hassles from the local police, although the girls all told me there had been problems. It is definitely a buyer’s market right now, the mongers have the leverage.
Overall, another excellent trip to Sosua...........perhaps not the supreme mongering destiination in the world, but you can't beat the convenience and proximity to the U.S. at a location that includes a nice beach and a variety of ocean sports.
Using a big bucket of cold water to rinse off with prior to the fun is a major “DR Fantasy” buzz kill. I came back out of lurker status for that one. Dude, that is fucked and beyond slumming :-{
But I am glad you had fun and thanks for your photo contribution to the photo gallery. P.S. It’s “Hatitana.” When you say “Hatiano” we may begin to think you were on a different kind of mongering trip, lol :-}
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Did a run early October last month. First and last time coming and being with only one chica the entire time. I now see that it is a complete waste to fly all the way over there and to be with only one chica when you have literally hundreds of chicas just begging for you to take them. I initially only agreed to do this with said Haitiana because she is very GFE and I figured it would be a good way to save some money.
I arrived there on Thursday. By Saturday morning I was hunting for places such as Rocky’s and NG trying to book a room to sneak off to later with another chica. The Hatiana had left for the morning to check on her hijo. After walking around (after eating what I found out was called “alitas de pollo frito” for lunch (chicken wings in Spanish. I know what chicken wings are; I just didn’t know how to order them in Spanish. They (Terra Linda) kept giving me the chicken they use for La Bandera. I had to go into the kitchen and point out the chicken parts I was looking for, lol). Checked out the room at Rocky’s. Not great, but good enough for ST. Do not like that they require a deposit. Left to check out rates for rooms in the old wing at NG. $55 USD per day. Decide on the room at Rocky’s since the price was lower and they give you your deposit back. Go to the store and buy some soap. Go back to the room to get the money for Rocky’s, condoms, and lube. Put everything in the plastic bag. Just as I am about to reach for the door handle: “BOOM, BOOM, BOOM!!!” It’s the Haitiana banging on the door like she’s the fucking police. She also had her sister with her. I think she brought her along in case she caught me in the room with another chica and they probably would have either jumped on her on me. I immediately throw all my shit back in the closet. Operation “Double-book”: Fail.
Terra Linda is still my favorite hotel. All you need is the single queen for $69. It was nice to have the King size room when it was going for the promotional rate of $55 back in May. The internet was out the first day I was there. I saw one guy on here saying he was going to write a complaint, lol. I asked them about it and they said the company would come out the next day. The thing about Terra Linda is that when their internet works, it REALLY works! Had no problems with it the rest of the trip. Also mostly ate in the restaurant at Terra Linda as well (except for breakfast. I usually entrust Bailey’s with this task). It’s a damn shame you have to hop across the pond to get a decent mojito. The chica that works behind the bar at the TL restaurant made the Mojito so damn good that I was even eating the mint sprigs! The ribs at Terra Linda are a little better than the ones at Rocky’s IMO. We also ordered room service, but they tack on 60 pesos to your food bill. You have to remind them to come back for the dishes though. I guess they sent the guy to the wrong room when I called because no one ever showed. Me and the Haitiana ended up walking them up to the restaurant. I also like to hear the music down near the pool while showering (the bathroom window is open by default). Almost every time I’ve stayed at TL it seems that the New Yorkers take over the music in the evening. You really get a chance to hear some real old skool East Coast hip hop.
I still like New Garden, but I like that Terra Linda only lets the chicas hang around the hotel when it is happy hour. At New Garden they have chicas hanging around all day. They talk to fucking much, lol. The Haitiana claimed that her amiga told her that I fucked some other Haitiana back in March of this year when I stayed at NG. I don’t even remember who the fuck she is even talking about, lol.
Tipico Alberto's is also still a goo place to eat. I always get the Tacos Suave. Good priced too. Nice place to sit at night and watch the chicas and other folks walk by.
Saw mongers and chicas that I saw from back in March 2009. Felt kinda silly telling some of my regulars that I couldn’t go to the room with them because I already had a chica in there. Found out a new strategy though: I noticed the tigres will leave you alone if you tell them you already have a girlfriend.
Seriously, what’s up with the police out in front of El flow with shotguns drawn at night. It’s not that fucking serious. I understand Sosua had a female mayor now?
Anyway, this is the last time I will ever walk into Classico’s, do an entire lap around the inside and walk out empty handed because I already have another chica in my room. No mas!
All in all, October was kinda quite, but still lots of nice looking chicas around. Things got started much later than they usually do during peak season.
QUESTION: Dominicana from a little while ago. Anyone know the story on this chica? You would know if you had been with her. Did you also get the GFE Glenn Close Fatal Attraction Experience as well? Supposed to be a lesbiana, flipped the fuck out when she found out that I was leaving the next day when I had already told her this earlier. Apparently she thought I meant “Next Sunday.”
Savepros, damn boy I was about to put out an APB( all points bulletin) for you. I thought maybe your sex prison (American) girl had burned your passport.
That Haitiana must have some good pussy to reduce you to lurker status. I can see you sneaking into the local internet cafe in full Groucho Marx (mustache, glasses, eyebrows) attire.
Welcome back to the game bro.
Heres a video i posted in Mr Gogo forum but someone said since the NG beauty contest is in it along with BB bikini contest to post it in Sosua section also.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtD4kzDMsg8
Mr Enternational
11-06-10, 05:39
Hey nice report from zip head. I am also going to sosua bay hotel on dec 20-23rd, hotel look nice. You mention it is a chica friendly. Do they charge any extra money to bring the chicas? All nighters are fine with the hotel managments?There is no joiner fee. All-nighters are fine. But if you take one to the breakfast buffet in the morning it is an extra US$13.
Mr Enternational
11-06-10, 05:44
I do some scuba diving every time I go to Sosua and was glad to see the dive shop at Sosua Bay had reopened (closed last time I was there) with new U.S. owners, Chuck and Wendy.....did some great wreck diving on the Zingara wreck and had a chance to learn how to spearfish and kill some of the invasive lionfish that have infested all Caribbean waters in the past 10 years.....this was really a BLAST and I would highly recommend it!! I still haven't gotten a chance to do any diving in the DR. I have noticed though that the shops down there sell equipment at some of the lowest prices I have seen in the world. Zip how much was it for the fun dive?
Heres a video i posted in Mr Gogo forum but someone said since the NG beauty contest is in it along with BB bikini contest to post it in Sosua section also.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtD4kzDMsg8
Thank You Mr Gogo
SavePros321
11-06-10, 19:17
Savepros, damn boy I was about to put out an APB( all points bulletin) for you. I thought maybe your sex prison (American) girl had burned your passport.
That Haitiana must have some good pussy to reduce you to lurker status. I can see you sneaking into the local internet cafe in full Groucho Marx (mustache, glasses, eyebrows) attire.
Welcome back to the game bro.
For a while we were having people come to the forum, ask questions (without RTFF first), and (if they ended up going to DR) never coming back on the board to share info or pics. With that, I just decided to keep info to myself and to only hit up contributing mongers via PM.
Jamebrown9 and Ziphead with their contributions to the photo gallery and Zip head's trip report gave me someone hope that the forum could return to greatness once again, lol!
I've actually been lurking in the MDE forum for a bit (I also see you've got a couple of those trips under your belt). As long as they've got some Colombianas with ass and hips on them like the chicas in DR then I may look into finding me second place to call home. I don't call the US, aka "sex prison" home anymore. I'm just here to work, lol.
I still haven't gotten a chance to do any diving in the DR. I have noticed though that the shops down there sell equipment at some of the lowest prices I have seen in the world. Zip how much was it for the fun dive?
$70 for a two tank dive; I brought my own gear, so think it would be a bit extra if you had to rent stuff.....but the Superior Dive in Sosua shop has really excellent rental gear.
MiamiHeatLuver
11-06-10, 20:35
Bud Selig you want to improve your ratings next year? je je
http://egotvonline.com/2010/11/05/dominican-baseball-cheerleaders/
Some real delish fat asses here fellas!
For a while we were having people come to the forum, ask questions (without RTFF first), and (if they ended up going to DR) never coming back on the board to share info or pics. With that, I just decided to keep info to myself and to only hit up contributing mongers via PM.
Jamebrown9 and Ziphead with their contributions to the photo gallery and Zip head's trip report gave me someone hope that the forum could return to greatness once again, lol!
I've actually been lurking in the MDE forum for a bit (I also see you've got a couple of those trips under your belt). As long as they've got some Colombianas with ass and hips on them like the chicas in DR then I may look into finding me second place to call home. I don't call the US, aka "sex prison" home anymore. I'm just here to work, lol.Your comments are point on. I always fell like I'm giving ten times as much as I'm getting back. But as BQ ribs told me " the few friends you do make and exchanging info via PM makes it worth it".
The Colombianas don't have ass and hips like the Dominicanas, but they make up for it with lady like qualities and beauty. I've been offered a business opportunity in Colombia and will probaly be moving there next year. People talk about the crime element in Colombia, but if you stay away from the drug culture, mind your own business, and remain low key nobody pays you any attention.
Bud Selig you want to improve your ratings next year? je je
http://egotvonline.com/2010/11/05/dominican-baseball-cheerleaders/
Some real delish fat asses here fellas!
Us Santo Domingo guys may have lost our SW but we still have el béisbol. The best part about Dominican baseball is chica watching. Between every inning the cheerleaders dance on top of the dugout and you don't want to miss it.
Sorry about the blurry pics but them chicas just shake, shake, shake too fast, fast, fast for my camera.
For a while we were having people come to the forum, ask questions (without RTFF first), and (if they ended up going to DR) never coming back on the board to share info or pics........I hear you but that is pretty much the same on most message boards. People will soak up all the info they can but won't as much as come back after their trip with a thank you. I often look at the "view count" on photos posted but very, very few, if any, will bother to post a comment. What bugs me is that the Dominican Republic forums are usually without any flame wars so why are lurkers afraid to post?
.....Jamebrown9 and Ziphead with their contributions to the photo gallery and Zip head's trip report gave me someone hope that the forum could return to greatness once again, lol!......The newbie reports are always the best and most entertaining. Us old timer vets can get boring after awhile. Vets can tell you what time the casas close, where to eat, taxi fares but the newbies' reports will keep you laughing. I still remember how I used to look forward to the next episode of Coolie High's trip.
SavePros321 only time will tell but it would be nice for those who don't post to start.
MiamiHeatLuver
11-07-10, 19:43
Us Santo Domingo guys may have lost our SW but we still have el béisbol. The best part about Dominican baseball is chica watching. Between every inning the cheerleaders dance on top of the dugout and you don't want to miss it.
Sorry about the blurry pics but them chicas just shake, shake, shake too fast, fast, fast for my camera.
The first pic, shes not my type and needs a shave, the other 2 pics just amazing! lol
John from NJ
11-08-10, 12:36
I'm returning to Sosua for the third time Nov 27-Dec 4. The New Garden has a king bed room available for $55 (**** cash rate) including tax and breakfast. I'm assuming it is in the older part. D'Piero has a 1 bedroom (king?)for $50 or a large room (king?)for $40 available including tax, breakfast and airport transfers. Some of D'Piero's safes are keyed some electronic. I believe all rooms at the NG have electronic safes, a big plus in my book. I enjoyed my previous stays at the NG but D'Piero's rate is very attractive and it looks nice on their website.
Any recommendations or suggestions? Pros/cons especially from guys who have stayed at both establishments would be appreciated.
Headed to Sousa for the first time, 5 nights at the NG, starting on November 19th. I have been reading the reports from this board, as well as sending PMs to various members. I can only say that I appreciate all the information that I have gathered thus far, from many of the ISG members on the forum and through PMs. I also gathered information from the Teflon Monger, and I am thankful of that as well; nice blog and Web site.
Having said that, I'm a true believer that one cannot have enough information and could always use more. So if anyone is there the same time frame, I would enjoy buying a couple of rounds and picking your brains for more insight on what Sousa has to offer. I love the beach laid-back lifestyle, and that explains why I like Rio and Pattaya so much.
The only question I have at this point is; Is there one place better than another to exchange dollars for pesos?
Looking forward to the trip and meeting some of you as well!
Howdy gents,
I'll be flying down in a few weeks for my first visit to the DR. I love massages and need to know the ones that have happy endings down there in Puerto Plata and Sosua. Hope you guys can help. Thanks!
Kaiju
Headed to Sousa for the first time, 5 nights at the NG, starting on November 19th. I have been reading the reports from this board, as well as sending PMs to various members. I can only say that I appreciate all the information that I have gathered thus far, from many of the ISG members on the forum and through PMs. I also gathered information from the Teflon Monger, and I am thankful of that as well; nice blog and Web site.
Having said that, I'm a true believer that one cannot have enough information and could always use more. So if anyone is there the same time frame, I would enjoy buying a couple of rounds and picking your brains for more insight on what Sousa has to offer. I love the beach laid-back lifestyle, and that explains why I like Rio and Pattaya so much.
The only question I have at this point is; Is there one place better than another to exchange dollars for pesos?
Looking forward to the trip and meeting some of you as well!
I'll be in a couple days after you at NG. For cambios, I always use one of two different store fronts. The best is hard to find. When you exit NG go right to the corner and make a left. Pass Bailey's restaurant and the Banco Popular. The next corner is a small plaza of shops including the Orange store. Go to the back of the plaza and enter an unmarked blue door. inside is a gate and if you wait a second, they'll buzz you in. I consistently get the best rates there.
In the alternative, bear to the left when you pass Bailey's and just before you get to the Happy Bar, on the left is a money exchange.
Lastly, you can also exchange money when you buy groceries at the Supermercado Playero. Pay in dollars and they'll convert. Used to be the best rate but now it's always just below.
Remember, the rates go down on weekends and the ATMs tend to run out of money so stock up on Friday.
MiamiHeatLuver
11-10-10, 18:14
I'll be in a couple days after you at NG. For cambios, I always use one of two different store fronts. The best is hard to find. When you exit NG go right to the corner and make a left. Pass Bailey's restaurant and the Banco Popular. The next corner is a small plaza of shops including the Orange store. Go to the back of the plaza and enter an unmarked blue door. inside is a gate and if you wait a second, they'll buzz you in. I consistently get the best rates there.
In the alternative, bear to the left when you pass Bailey's and just before you get to the Happy Bar, on the left is a money exchange.
Lastly, you can also exchange money when you buy groceries at the Supermercado Playero. Pay in dollars and they'll convert. Used to be the best rate but now it's always just below.
Remember, the rates go down on weekends and the ATMs tend to run out of money so stock up on Friday.
The guy with the baseball cap walking along the beach, I don't know his name but he is the only one. Consistently always gives the best rate.. A few months back he was giving me 36.80 while every was getting 36.50 at the hotels and the guys screaming CHANGE CHANGE by the Verizon place.
John from NJ
11-10-10, 18:18
In the alternative, bear to the left when you pass Bailey's and just before you get to the Happy Bar, on the left is a money exchange.I found this money exchange to have the best rates in June. Clean, secure and busy. Never had a problem and I exhanged dollars every couple of days.
Always Horny #2
11-10-10, 18:49
Last visit was Jan '08. It was my first visit to Sosua, but my second time in the DR. Big shout out to Mr. GoGo! We didn't get a chance to hang out due to flight issues landing, but if we happen to be there around the same time...drinks are on me.
I enjoyed my stay at the NG. I have nothing negative to say about the place. It was a great choice.
I'm looking for suggestions on when is a better time to visit. I am currently looking at the early part of June. It seems like it marks the end of the rainy season. I plan to stay much longer this time around and I want to do some exploring/excursions other than bangin Chicas.
I am curious about opinions about Chica quality and quantity around the time I arrive. I also welcome suggestions on activities to pass time. Finally, I'm thinking of renting a car and maybe a house this time.
Many thanks!
Last visit was Jan '08. It was my first visit to Sosua, but my second time in the DR. Big shout out to Mr. GoGo! We didn't get a chance to hang out due to flight issues landing, but if we happen to be there around the same time. Drinks are on me.
I enjoyed my stay at the NG. I have nothing negative to say about the place. It was a great choice.
I'm looking for suggestions on when is a better time to visit. I am currently looking at the early part of June. It seems like it marks the end of the rainy season. I plan to stay much longer this time around and I want to do some exploring/excursions other than bangin Chicas.
I am curious about opinions about Chica quality and quantity around the time I arrive. I also welcome suggestions on activities to pass time. Finally, I'm thinking of renting a car and maybe a house this time.
Many thanks! That was the trip from hell. I was visiting a girl in Tampa. Well I get a pre recorded phone call at 6am that my American flight at 9am was cancelled. My connecting flight from MIA to POP was at 1:20pm out of MIA. I get on the phone and Continental has a 10: am to MIA for 150usd. The plane was like a big coffin with nine seats and two propellers. The flight wasnt bad and you actually get to see the pilot land as I was looking over his shoulder.
I get to MIA and meet Always Horney and we board the 1:20 to POP. We get all the way to POP and the pilot can't land because of weather. So we fly in cicles for two hours while the flight awaits orders from Houston. They send us back to MIA and everyone has to stand in line for changes. Some people opted for the SD plane at 8:30pm. I said fuck it and American later gave me a 400 dollar voucher.
I was wondering what ever happened to you. You still drinking Patron? And the trip report you posted about catching the wrong bus to nowhere was funny. Keep me posted on your dates.
Funinthesun63
11-11-10, 06:46
Headed to Sousa for the first time, 5 nights at the NG, starting on November 19th. I have been reading the reports from this board, as well as sending PMs to various members. I can only say that I appreciate all the information that I have gathered thus far, from many of the ISG members on the forum and through PMs. I also gathered information from the Teflon Monger, and I am thankful of that as well; nice blog and Web site.
Having said that, I'm a true believer that one cannot have enough information and could always use more. So if anyone is there the same time frame, I would enjoy buying a couple of rounds and picking your brains for more insight on what Sousa has to offer. I love the beach laid-back lifestyle, and that explains why I like Rio and Pattaya so much.
The only question I have at this point is; Is there one place better than another to exchange dollars for pesos?
Looking forward to the trip and meeting some of you as well!
I will be in Sosua November 14-23. Not staying at NG this time around but will be dropping by to see who's there. New Garden is always a good choice, especially for a first timer. You'll see what I mean when you reflect on your trip.
BeaverHunter
11-11-10, 22:51
Headed to Sousa for the first time, 5 nights at the NG, starting on November 19th. I have been reading the reports from this board, as well as sending PMs to various members. I can only say that I appreciate all the information that I have gathered thus far, from many of the ISG members on the forum and through PMs. I also gathered information from the Teflon Monger, and I am thankful of that as well; nice blog and Web site.
Having said that, I'm a true believer that one cannot have enough information and could always use more. So if anyone is there the same time frame, I would enjoy buying a couple of rounds and picking your brains for more insight on what Sousa has to offer. I love the beach laid-back lifestyle, and that explains why I like Rio and Pattaya so much.
The only question I have at this point is; Is there one place better than another to exchange dollars for pesos?
Looking forward to the trip and meeting some of you as well!
Exchange money at any small place in sosua. The rate is about usually the same. Also, there will be men in the streets exchanging money as well. When exiting NG go right to the end of the block. On that corner, there will probably be 2 or 3 guys exchanging money. It is safe to use this method.
Got to the exchange bank in Charimicos. It's right down the hill from the Caribe Tours bus station. It's the building next to Bon Ice Cream. They have the rate posted outside and there is nowhere on the tourist side of Sosua that can beat their rate. right now they offer 37.15 or better when the best you can get on the El Batey side is 37.05.
Charles Pooter
11-12-10, 00:45
Got to the exchange bank in Charimicos. It's right down the hill from the Caribe Tours bus station. It's the building next to Bon Ice Cream. They have the rate posted outside and there is nowhere on the tourist side of Sosua that can beat their rate. right now they offer 37.15 or better when the best you can get on the El Batey side is 37.05.
Good idea. If you change US$1000 you will receive 100 pesos more than you could get in El Batey. This should pay your motoconcho fare there and back.
Hey Every body,
Well I am going to Sosua on 19th. 23rd DEC, have question about la passion. I saw take out menu on there rate sheet. Is there any extra fees the girl charges or ask after I pay take out charges? Is that fees includes every thing for the night for the girl? Any hidden charges? How many pops you are allowed with the girl? What is the take out charges iin crystal or bohen? Do I have to pay extra to the girl for the night? Do the charge extra to bring them to sosua from puerto plata? Do you know crystal website? Is there any more places like la passion in sosua / puerto plate that I need to know? What will be Sosua girls from bars or disco all nighter will cost me on average? I will appreciate if any of you guys give me some feed back. Also give me the price value in US dollars.
Marc Anthony
11-12-10, 17:35
Hey Every body,
Well I am going to Sosua on 19th. 23rd DEC, have question about la passion. I saw take out menu on there rate sheet. Is there any extra fees the girl charges or ask after I pay take out charges? Is that fees includes every thing for the night for the girl? Any hidden charges? How many pops you are allowed with the girl? What is the take out charges iin crystal or bohen? Do I have to pay extra to the girl for the night? Do the charge extra to bring them to sosua from puerto plata? Do you know crystal website? Is there any more places like la passion in sosua / puerto plate that I need to know? What will be Sosua girls from bars or disco all nighter will cost me on average? I will appreciate if any of you guys give me some feed back. Also give me the price value in US dollars.
You've got time to RTFF before late December, it would be very worth your while to go back and spend some time on it. None of these things has changed in a long time. It is probably not a good idea to arrange for "all night" (LT) with some chica you don't know. There is little point in transporting chicas from PP to sosua. Crystal/Bohen are overpriced venues for the same chicas. There is a similar place right next to Passions, but otherwise no similar places. There is a lot of discussion of prices that's worth reading to get a feel for it. The exchange rate is 37:1 so get used to different dollar equivalents because you will really lose money if you try to pay chicas in dollars. Generally chicas will ask you for 2K-3K and will settle for 1K to 1.5K. At 37:1, 1000 pesos (1K) is about $27. So think of 1000 as $30, 500 as $15, 100 as $3.
You will read lots of reports from guys who regret blundering in and negotiating for LT (all night) and having the chica turn out to be... no good, crazy, have to leave for 'emergency', etc etc. You can always ask her to stay longer if you really hit it off and things are going great, if you make her a larger offer in advance and you want to give her less and kick her out early she may have issues with it.
Beagle0030
11-12-10, 18:42
Hey Every body,
Well I am going to Sosua on 19th. 23rd DEC, have question about la passion. I saw take out menu on there rate sheet. Is there any extra fees the girl charges or ask after I pay take out charges? Is that fees includes every thing for the night for the girl? Any hidden charges? How many pops you are allowed with the girl? What is the take out charges iin crystal or bohen? Do I have to pay extra to the girl for the night? Do the charge extra to bring them to sosua from puerto plata? Do you know crystal website? Is there any more places like la passion in sosua / puerto plate that I need to know? What will be Sosua girls from bars or disco all nighter will cost me on average? I will appreciate if any of you guys give me some feed back. Also give me the price value in US dollars.I would recommend that you read the posts here. You will find many of the answers here. If you have specific questions for La Passion, you can email them directly from their site.
There is no headaches from La Passion chicas. You pay an extra price for that service but thr stated price is it (well the girl will expect a tip for good service). The menu they bring you is exactly the same as the website. For me, that is where I like to start my early evenings. You can roll in there, have a couple of beers, then get a girl. There is no long drawn out hunt. For me, I go for the 2500 peso special on the premises. You get two pops in a decent room. Also, you need not bring the girl back to your place, and I like that.
That allows me to spend my day doing more touristy things without thinking about girls.
There is a "CMP Club" (Caribbean Men's Paradise) on the same street. They are always working on getting you in there. It is high pressure which is stupid. I can catch hotter girls on the street plus I would rather have the girl try to get me to close the deal instead of some European guy chatting me up. I will not go back there.
Do your research but just relax. If you miss the girl you wanted today remember it is not like she is going to get drafted into the NFL. There is 99.9% chance she will be here tomorrow.
Got to the exchange bank in Charimicos. It's right down the hill from the Caribe Tours bus station. It's the building next to Bon Ice Cream. They have the rate posted outside and there is nowhere on the tourist side of Sosua that can beat their rate. right now they offer 37.15 or better when the best you can get on the El Batey side is 37.05.If I don't use this plcae, my plan B is Western union, which there rate is about the same. Western Union is arcoos the street from the big super market in sosua.
John from NJ
11-12-10, 20:07
Hey Every body,
Well I am going to Sosua on 19th. 23rd DEC, have question about la passion. I saw take out menu on there rate sheet. Is there any extra fees the girl charges or ask after I pay take out charges? Is that fees includes every thing for the night for the girl? Any hidden charges? How many pops you are allowed with the girl? What is the take out charges iin crystal or bohen? Do I have to pay extra to the girl for the night? Do the charge extra to bring them to sosua from puerto plata? Do you know crystal website? Is there any more places like la passion in sosua / puerto plate that I need to know? What will be Sosua girls from bars or disco all nighter will cost me on average? I will appreciate if any of you guys give me some feed back. Also give me the price value in US dollars.Marc is right. Forget about Crystal/Bohen. There are available chicas all over Sosua. The hard part is selecting a good one.
Taking chicas out of Passions will differently increase your odds. The chicas I pulled from Passions were great. The menu price is all inclusive. I paid the bar manager 2, 500-3, 500 pesos depending on the day and time. None of the chicas tried to charge me extra. I enjoyed them so they got breakfast & a 500 peso tip in the morning
I offered the street/bar chicas 1000 peso for ST and 2000 for TLN last spring. I did not negotiate. If they refused no problem. There was always another fine chica standing behind them. Mike's suggestion of staying with ST offers is a good one. If the chica turns out to be a loser you're out $27 dollars no big deal. Just go back out and select another one. If she is a winner offer an additional 1000-1500 to stay until morning. She'll stay.
The number of pops really depends on you and the chica. For ST I expect only one, for TLN 2 or 3. I usually try for two at night and one in the morning. But it really depends on the time of night, how hard you partied, what your morning plans are, how agreeable the chica is and if you/chica are morning people.
Read the posts. You will find answers to all your questions plus a lot more usefully information. Follow the advice in the posts and you will have a great trip.
Thanks all you guys (Marc Anthony, beagle 0030, john from NJ). You guys gave some good tips for ST / LT/ about passion. I will enjoy more with knowing what to do with time and money with these girls. Good thing is I speak Spanish and do salsa dancing. For sure I will go for ST and see if she looks normal then we go from there.. What is the ratio between white /light skin to dark /tan skin ladies in sosua? Thanks again and I will put my experience when I get back.
Take care
Charles Pooter
11-12-10, 23:20
Three very sensible replies to Love Bite from John from NJ, from Beagle 0030, and from (my favorite ISG poster) Marc Anthony. That is where this board is at its best, guys who know what they are talking about helping those less experienced for that location.
Thanks all you guys (Marc Anthony, beagle 0030, john from NJ). You guys gave some good tips for ST / LT/ about passion. I will enjoy more with knowing what to do with time and money with these girls. Good thing is I speak Spanish and do salsa dancing. For sure I will go for ST and see if she looks normal then we go from there.. What is the ratio between white /light skin to dark /tan skin ladies in sosua? Thanks again and I will put my experience when I get back.
Take carePassions is a little up there in price, but the performance you get from the girls is great. I've beeen there 5 times myself I love it, sometime you don't feel like running around sosua looking for anything, this it's right there for you.
Is this a good time to travel to Sosua? Is the place dead because everyone stays home to be with their families? Looking to plan a trip there and not sure if this is one the dates you shouldn't plan a trip.
Lex
Eustisflman
11-14-10, 15:15
Great time at BB with the chicas and the miss universe contest.
Número 5 was the winner and smoking hot. Pics to be posted later.
SavePros321
11-14-10, 19:50
Is this a good time to travel to Sosua? Is the place dead because everyone stays home to be with their families? Looking to plan a trip there and not sure if this is one the dates you shouldn't plan a trip.
Lex
This may help you in your search for an answer:
The Seasonality of the Dominican Republic (by Helpmann)
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=628183&postcount=748
His analysis deals mostly with the South Coast (Puerto Plata and Sosua are on the North Coast) but if you read the forum a few years back for around this time people are saying the same thing: avoid the DR from Christmas until after New Year's unless you have previously arranged something with a chica before going. Most of the chicas are with family around this time so you would be left holding yourself :)
On the flip side, I would say the week before and the days leading up to Christmas should be primo as chicas will be out trying to get pesos for a very Merry Christmas for the bambinos (kidz). I've even gone during the first week of December and it was still an amazing time.
This may help you in your search for an answer:
The Seasonality of the Dominican Republic (by Helpmann)
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=628183&postcount=748
His analysis deals mostly with the South Coast (Puerto Plata and Sosua are on the North Coast) but if you read the forum a few years back for around this time people are saying the same thing: avoid the DR from Christmas until after New Year's unless you have previously arranged something with a chica before going. Most of the chicas are with family around this time so you would be left holding yourself :)
On the flip side, I would say the week before and the days leading up to Christmas should be primo as chicas will be out trying to get pesos for a very Merry Christmas for the bambinos (kidz). I've even gone during the first week of December and it was still an amazing time.Thanks, Pretty much the same across the board in most of the Latin countries. I.E. Costa Rica, Columbia, and now DR.
Guess I'm going to save my money, its a shame since I get that week off anyway.
Lex
Exchange money at any small place in sosua. The rate is about usually the same. Also, there will be men in the streets exchanging money as well. When exiting NG go right to the end of the block. On that corner, there will probably be 2 or 3 guys exchanging money. It is safe to use this method.
Ever notice how every store clerk closely examines every large bill (500's, 1000s, and 2000s)? Ever wonder how counterfeit bills get into circulation if everyone is getting their money from banks and ATMs?
Use exchange places that have a storefront and address -- at least if there are any problems you can tell the police where you got the bills.
Also, when at the exchange bank, especially in Sosua COUNT THE MONEY before you leave. Exchange bank clerks make extra money through "innocent mistakes". You are especially vulnerable if you are tipsy and obviously having a good time.
The Man Tour Guy
themantour.net
Eustisflman
11-15-10, 16:06
[QUOTE=Thedrman]Ever notice how every store clerk closely examines every large bill (500's, 1000s, and 2000s)? Ever wonder how counterfeit bills get into circulation if everyone is getting their money from banks and ATMs?
Use exchange places that have a storefront and address -- at least if there are any problems you can tell the police where you got the bills.
Also, when at the exchange bank, especially in Sosua COUNT THE MONEY before you leave. Exchange bank clerks make extra money through "innocent mistakes". You are especially vulnerable if you are tipsy and obviously having a good time.
The Man Tour Guy
themantour.net[/QUOTEI am at NG now and have no problem using American money. For anything, chicas, food, bar, etc. Just don't use any large bills. 10 and 20 dollars seem to be ok.
Charles Pooter
11-15-10, 21:32
[QUOTE=Thedrman]Ever notice how every store clerk closely examines every large bill (500's, 1000s, and 2000s)? Ever wonder how counterfeit bills get into circulation if everyone is getting their money from banks and ATMs?
Use exchange places that have a storefront and address -- at least if there are any problems you can tell the police where you got the bills.
Also, when at the exchange bank, especially in Sosua COUNT THE MONEY before you leave. Exchange bank clerks make extra money through "innocent mistakes". You are especially vulnerable if you are tipsy and obviously having a good time.
The Man Tour Guy
themantour.net[/QUOTEI am at NG now and have no problem using American money. For anything, chicas, food, bar, etc. Just don't use any large bills. 10 and 20 dollars seem to be ok.
Yes, but you will pay more because of rounding up. They are never going to round down.
Also most locals are innumerate. They have quick brains with numbers they have learned off by heart but cannot adjust or re-calculate.
A typical example I have encountered many times is a chica quoting 50 dollars (actually around 1850 pesos). I say "I don't have dollars because I am not American but I will give you 1500 pesos". "OK, papi". This is not a chica giving you a discount, this is a chica who couldn't convert currency if her life depended on it. Had I offered her 40 dollars (near enough 1500 pesos) she would have flatly refused.
Good idea. If you change US$1000 you will receive 100 pesos more than you could get in El Batey. This should pay your motoconcho fare there and back.
I am sorry this is a big deal for you but, I have a vehicle.
BeaverHunter
11-17-10, 18:14
Ever notice how every store clerk closely examines every large bill (500's, 1000s, and 2000s)? Ever wonder how counterfeit bills get into circulation if everyone is getting their money from banks and ATMs?
Use exchange places that have a storefront and address -- at least if there are any problems you can tell the police where you got the bills.
Also, when at the exchange bank, especially in Sosua COUNT THE MONEY before you leave. Exchange bank clerks make extra money through "innocent mistakes". You are especially vulnerable if you are tipsy and obviously having a good time.
The Man Tour Guy
themantour.net
I have exchanged money with these guys for over 5 years and never had a problem. The only time i was given counterfeit bills was at an All Enclusive in Juan Dolio. But i guess it would be safe than sorry to use a store so i don't totally disagree.
Yesterday the chicas had a meeting with the deputy major about the current situation of the chica round up. It was a small protest the was supposed to include the mayor but, she didn't show up. The chicas did a lot of protesting and expressed their grievances regarding the random arrest. After the meeting the cops were waiting outside and haul a large number of their asses to the slammer.
Yesterday the chicas had a meeting with the deputy major about the current situation of the chica round up. It was a small protest the was supposed to include the mayor but, she didn't show up. The chicas did a lot of protesting and expressed their grievances regarding the random arrest. After the meeting the cops were waiting outside and haul a large number of their asses to the slammer.A deplorable situation! Resignations are necessary !
Yesterday the chicas had a meeting with the deputy major about the current situation of the chica round up. It was a small protest the was supposed to include the mayor but, she didn't show up. The chicas did a lot of protesting and expressed their grievances regarding the random arrest. After the meeting the cops were waiting outside and haul a large number of their asses to the slammer.I wouldn't be surprised if the authorities use this Cholera thing to crack down on Haitians in Sosua. Just a couple cases in Sosua and boom, there goes the Haitian trick trade. Who benefits? No one. But the Dominicanas will be more in demand.
SavePros321
11-18-10, 22:18
Yesterday the chicas had a meeting with the deputy major about the current situation of the chica round up. It was a small protest the was supposed to include the mayor but, she didn't show up. The chicas did a lot of protesting and expressed their grievances regarding the random arrest. After the meeting the cops were waiting outside and haul a large number of their asses to the slammer.
Damn, pretty soon Blackbeard's is going to be the only place on the North Coast to find some action! I'm guessing the Mayor's intent is to let the police lock the chicas up so much that they just decide to stay away from Sosua all together. Making it to be that when the gringo shows up the place is a ghost town.
Can someone who is connected to the community there comment on what is actually going on behind the scenes? I know from studying politics that people are put into power by players operating behind the scenes (i.e. Hugo Chavez, Robert Mugabe) to do thy bidding. The mayor seems to be a pawn put there to clean the place up for developers wanting to turn the place into "New Cabarete"? I wouldn't be surprised if they have plans to build a road that goes right to Cabarete and cuts right through Classicos.
It speaks volumes that the mayor did not show up at the meeting, signaling that she in fact is in favor of and possibly the one sanctioning these acts (chica lockup). Probably promised the chicas more protection from the police if elected during the campaign no doubt...
...And it's no coincidence that this is simultaneously going on in Santo Domingo as well...
Is DR becoming the new Puerto Rico?
Didn't the same thing happen in Boca Chica years ago? No real surprise. Maybe So-sewer is going the way of Boca Chica too.
Undercover cops grabbed chicas right from inside the little walk way. One heavier haitian woman decided she was wrongly grabbed and tried to put up a fight. I guess she will be back across the border by nightfall. She was trying to bite the cops and they had to bring a car to pick her ass up. I am pretty sure they gave her the business when they got her back to the station. All the women looked like they were living in fear. Man. Sosua is changing.
Marc Anthony
11-19-10, 23:58
Didn't the same thing happen in Boca Chica years ago? No real surprise. Maybe So-sewer is going the way of Boca Chica too.
Sosua got pretty wild in the 90's and there was a major crackdown that drastically shut down open p4p for a year or so. Long enough that it significantly impacted the tourist industry in town. After that it quietly built back up.
Boca Chica picked up after Sosua was shut down and got very wild before the big crackdown there...and since then it's been relatively quiet.
When they close down a few discos it's not like the chicas pack up and leave the island.
Marc Anthony
11-20-10, 00:04
Undercover cops grabbed chicas right from inside the little walk way. One heavier haitian woman decided she was wrongly grabbed and tried to put up a fight. I guess she will be back across the border by nightfall. She was trying to bite the cops and they had to bring a car to pick her ass up. I am pretty sure they gave her the business when they got her back to the station. All the women looked like they were living in fear. Man. Sosua is changing.
Thanks for an on the scene report. Can you give us more details on what you saw? What time of day? By the little walkway do you mean the stairs up to the disco? How many chicas taken? Mostly Haitian? Any comments by other chicas? Was it Politur? TIA.
Sosua has changed during the cocktail hour. I just returned after 5 weeks. Formerly, at the Bermuda Bar(PC + Rosen), there were many young, hot chicas there, or passing by. Today, there were none! Only a few old-timers, old, fat, and ugly chicas. The ''vermin'' are in process of destroying Sosua!
Wow. I have a trip planned in January. I'm wondering if I should cancel.
SavePros321
11-20-10, 13:06
Wow. I have a trip planned in January. I'm wondering if I should cancel.
I don't have an answer for you. But I am VERY CERTAIN the "powers to be" are monitoring this board and are looking for statements from more guys "wondering" to verify that "Operation Pedro Clisante Cleansing" is working.
Well, it's a good thing the Mayor there created an abundant supply of job opportunities for the chicas after literally taking away there mill stone...right? (lol)
And the police, just what will they do after this operation is successful? Surely they don't have to worry about losing there jobs because there are way too many of them with nothing to do now...right? Maybe when there are no more chicas and vendors to lock up they'll start going after the stray dogs in Sosua to justify staying on the payroll....
Wow. I have a trip planned in January. I'm wondering if I should cancel. Classicos and Bar Central are packed with chicas at 10pm+, Passions is going great+ as is another new similar club.
Classicos and Bar Central are packed with chicas at 10pm+, Passions is going great+ as is another new similar club.
I second the piece of advice. It's good to be in Classicos. Chicas bonitas everywhere. Just look at one of them, which one ?, and she'll come to take your money.
Ipanema Carioca
11-20-10, 16:05
Classicos and Bar Central are packed with chicas at 10pm+, Passions is going great+ as is another new similar club.I am sitting here in this freaking mud hole, Sosua, and it's raining. I changed my 2 week trip to Rio for Sosua. I just finished my 5th trip this year to Rio on 15 Nov. only for 4 days. Now I am in Sosua. My 2nd trip here in 2 months.
Yes, the DR peso is cheaper than the Brazilian reias, but the Brazilian chicas are more finer. Yeah Classicos has a lot of girls, but they seem to be on a lower level than Brazil. Plus, if you want to take a break from fucking, there is more to do in Rio. Nothing to fucking to in Sosua. Now it's raining, and the mudhole is making more mud!!!!
But you can fuck here for US equivalent of $26.00 all night. So some chicas are gonna get fucked before I leave 2 Dec. 11 days to go!! Also, the girls here are hungrier than Rio. This place is good for those without post Help, non Copa game!
Me and 3 buddys went down to Sosua 2years ago for 7days and it rained every fucking day we were there and I mean torrential rain. What a fucking mess that was. The day we were leaving the fucking sun came out! I have not been to Brazil( definitely on my todo list) but I go to Colombia every 2 months and love it. Colombia and its women are much finer than the dominicans. I am heading down to DR on Dec 2 and I have to sort thru alot of fucked up women before I find a good one. Alot of them have fucked up stomachs and or tits that look like fried eggs. Drives me nuts! First thing I do is check out the stomach, I like it to be nice and flat.
I am sitting here in this freaking mud hole, Sosua, and it's raining. I changed my 2 week trip to Rio for Sosua. I just finished my 5th trip this year to Rio on 15 Nov. only for 4 days. Now I am in Sosua. My 2nd trip here in 2 months.
Yes, the DR peso is cheaper than the Brazilian reias, but the Brazilian chicas are more finer. Yeah Classicos has a lot of girls, but they seem to be on a lower level than Brazil. Plus, if you want to take a break from fucking, there is more to do in Rio. Nothing to fucking to in Sosua. Now it's raining, and the mudhole is making more mud!!!!
But you can fuck here for US equivalent of $26.00 all night. So some chicas are gonna get fucked before I leave 2 Dec. 11 days to go!! Also, the girls here are hungrier than Rio. This place is good for those without post Help, non Copa game!
Hi everyone,
Is it possible to stay at casa marina with dominican girlfriend? Does anyone done so please give some info. I am 42 she is 19 will this be a problem?
Thanks alot
Me and 3 buddys went down to Sosua 2years ago for 7days and it rained every fucking day we were there and I mean torrential rain. What a fucking mess that was. The day we were leaving the fucking sun came out! I have not been to Brazil( definitely on my todo list) but I go to Colombia every 2 months and love it. Colombia and its women are much finer than the dominicans. I am heading down to DR on Dec 2 and I have to sort thru alot of fucked up women before I find a good one. Alot of them have fucked up stomachs and or tits that look like fried eggs. Drives me nuts! First thing I do is check out the stomach, I like it to be nice and flat.
I've been to Rio, and Colombia and DR , and I always research the yearly and monthly weather reports of the previous year to determine when to book my vacation, not a %100 guarantee, but I have never suffered from endless days or weeks of rain.
Agree the Dr woman aren't on the par as Colombia or Brazil, but if your just going to dump your load to any of these countries, get on a dating site before you touch down and have your 10 waiting for you.
Research the surrounding cities and events , daily events can be found that don't revolve around just screwing.
It just all entails what you want to get out of your vacation.
Nowrath
I wouldn't do Sosua for more than a week. Rio on the other hand is a magnificent beautiful big city where I could stay for a year w/o leaving.
Sosua is a little shithole town. But between all the dogs you can find some very fine women (at quite low prices). It can be a great trip for 3-7 days. It also has a decent beach (which Medellin doesn't have). Check the weather charts. Aug - Dec looks like the rainy season.
Sosua is a little shithole town.
This place is a smaller version of Pattaya! Only been here 3 days and having a great fuckin time! Reports to follow!
Guys, look like Sousa is going to close down soon!
[QUOTE=Combo]I wouldn't do Sosua for more than a week. Rio on the other hand is a magnificent beautiful big city where I could stay for a year w/o leaving.
It does not make sense to compare Sosua with Rio de Janeiro a city with a 10+ million population of course there are more things to do, to see, to explore....
''21 November 2010
Drastic changes in Sosúa
Thursday afternoon 18 November at 4 PM, at the restaurant 'Muroa May', a meeting was held. At that meeting the owners of the bars in the Pedro Clisante were invited. Further more, the commander of the Tourist Police (Politur) and the President of the Tourism Department were present.
At this meeting the President of the Tourism Department announced that from 3 December, the policy in the Pedro Clisante will be tightened. From 3 December all the bars have to be closed from street view along the street. The reason is that when you walk along the street you should not be disturbed from the noise of the bars. In addition, women and girls are not allowed to walk alone along the street anymore. If a woman or girl should be alone on the street, and can not prove that she has a job or is an employee, then she is arrested for prostitution. Also, women should not be found alone, but accompanied by a companion in a bar or restaurant, otherwise these women will also be arrested for prostitution and the bar will be closed. Currently, at the Bar 'Latino' (owner is the Vice-Mayor Willy Olivences) dark glass windows are places to close it off from the street view.''
Hi everyone,
Is it possible to stay at casa marina with dominican girlfriend? Does anyone done so please give some info. I am 42 she is 19 will this be a problem?
Thanks alot
No. There is no problem but make sure she meets you at the airport and you check in together. Do not worry about the age. Many tourists bring their young girlfriends to all inclusive resorts. As long as your GF behaves like a normal girl and dresses the part there should not be any problem. There are two sets of rules. White european girls can wear the skimpiest dress and can get away with it. But with a local dominicana they might question. For all they know this girl maybe staying there to find tricks among the tourists. There are many girls who book and stay at all inclusive just to do this. Besides it is cheaper if a Dominican girl books the room. Maybe you should try that.
I have stayed at a resort with local girl. There are no issues although she was hit on by some young dudes. I am sure you will get some weird looks from some fat old women. Just ignore. For the most part young people are nice and you can join them in the pool playing games etc.
Ofcourse make sure this girl has a cedula.
Guys, look like Sousa is going to close down soon!
Here is the link to the article posted by Malikh12,
http://www.sosuanews.com/index.php
This part of the article, if enforced, will really change Sosua.
"Also, women should not be found alone, but accompanied by a companion in a bar or restaurant, otherwise these women will also be arrested for prostitution and the bar will be closed."
''21 November 2010
Drastic changes in Sosúa
Thursday afternoon 18 November at 4 PM, at the restaurant 'Muroa May', a meeting was held. At that meeting the owners of the bars in the Pedro Clisante were invited. Further more, the commander of the Tourist Police (Politur) and the President of the Tourism Department were present.
At this meeting the President of the Tourism Department announced that from 3 December, the policy in the Pedro Clisante will be tightened. From 3 December all the bars have to be closed from street view along the street. The reason is that when you walk along the street you should not be disturbed from the noise of the bars. In addition, women and girls are not allowed to walk alone along the street anymore. If a woman or girl should be alone on the street, and can not prove that she has a job or is an employee, then she is arrested for prostitution. Also, women should not be found alone, but accompanied by a companion in a bar or restaurant, otherwise these women will also be arrested for prostitution and the bar will be closed. Currently, at the Bar 'Latino' (owner is the Vice-Mayor Willy Olivences) dark glass windows are places to close it off from the street view.''Just that the meeting was held at Mauri Mauri says alot. Alexandra(beautiful and very nice lady) is the owner. But her husband Rafael(nice guy) is a major property owner in Sosua. He is Dominican and connected with the police, mayor, and most powerful Domiinicans. He is currently renovating the building he owns across from LaRoca, and diagonal from Mauri Mauri. MM has great food and caters to a clientele that doesn't mind paying a little extra for good food.
SavePros321
11-21-10, 18:07
Wow. I have a trip planned in January. I'm wondering if I should cancel.
Here is the link to the article posted by Malikh12,
http://www.sosuanews.com/index.php
This part of the article, if enforced, will really change Sosua.
"Also, women should not be found alone, but accompanied by a companion in a bar or restaurant, otherwise these women will also be arrested for prostitution and the bar will be closed."
Well, I think you have your answer now Combo. Definitely don't spend your money in a place where your business is not wanted. Let Sosua starve as they wait for the "New Cabarette" crowd to arrive. And I seriously don't see that happening unless they change the name of Sosua to something other than Sosua.
So, is Wilfred of New Garden going to cash out before his business there slows to a trickle? In any case, as my man Jay Z says: "On to tha next one." At least we'll always have pictures.
Can't blame all of this on the female mayor; she is just a sock-puppet taking orders from whoever has their hand up her ass.
"...last call for drinks, bars closing down... Sun's out, where we going to for breakfast?..." - Carlito's Way
Marc Anthony
11-21-10, 18:25
Here is the link to the article posted by Malikh12,
http://www.sosuanews.com/index.php
This part of the article, if enforced, will really change Sosua.
"Also, women should not be found alone, but accompanied by a companion in a bar or restaurant, otherwise these women will also be arrested for prostitution and the bar will be closed."
This is similar to the rule enforced in Boca Chica on Duarte. If enforced it will definitely change the atmosphere in Sosua. In BC chicas are afraid to be on Duarte after dark without an escort, the only chicas that can be there are those hired by the bars. Things will be much quieter. In BC there are chicas on the streets other than Duarte, and of course in the casas etc.
So, is Wilfred of New Garden going to cash out before his business there slows to a trickle?
Funny (not really) you mentioned that. I was planning on talking to Wilfred tomorrow to reserve a room for March.
This is clearly unfair! It took me years to find this place...WTF?
3 more nights, I will go out in true fashion!
Charles Pooter
11-21-10, 18:54
Wow. I have a trip planned in January. I'm wondering if I should cancel.
If you were planning to spend your time with hard-core street-rat slags with tattoos, piercings and a bad attitude, then cancel. If not, then go, and enjoy yourself as much as ever, perhaps more.
So your saying, they cleaned the place of lowlifes and let the better dressed *****s stay? Yea Okay
If you were planning to spend your time with hard-core street-rat slags with tattoos, piercings and a bad attitude, then cancel. If not, then go, and enjoy yourself as much as ever, perhaps more.
Well, this clean up basically pushes girls inside, to the casas and houses under the control of pimps. This is exactly what I hate, girls were free to go around and pick their punters without chulos and middle men. What a sheme.... (may be that's what they didn't like !?)
I think it will cause serious damage to the economy and businesses in Sosua. It will take years to recover, many Dominicans (or expats) who work and live in Sosua will suffer, if they think this is the way to clean up the place they are so wrong. This is how to kill it.
I blame it directly on a woman mayor, why not, I think she's not getting across the fact that Sosua only exists due to punters and chicas, all inclusive hotels died years ago, when other, cheaper places in DR and Cuba etc. came up with better offers. Another mayor would have made this point. Recall how national after midnight curfews a while back where changed for Sosua and there was an exception for this little town, because they got this point across to the authority. This woman mayor is probably doing the opposite.
In a few months Sosua will become a ghost town, it's all supply and demand. Once punters start cancelling trips, the chicas will not bother to turn up, why should they go to a place that get hassled and arrested and then not even find a punter to make it worthwhile.
Arrest ALL unaccompanied girls at night !!! - what kind of f**king law is that, isn't it against women human-rights or something, feminazis ahould be complaining against this law against women !!!!? I hope the daughter of woman mayor get arrested one night on the way to a restaurant or something, or some other important sh*t, so may be they start thinking about what they actually telling police to do .... nuts.
Really shame about Sosua, it was really good while it lasted.
SavePros321
11-22-10, 02:04
I blame it directly on a woman mayor, why not, I think she's not getting across the fact that Sosua only exists due to punters and chicas, all inclusive hotels died years ago, when other, cheaper places in DR and Cuba etc. came up with better offers. Another mayor would have made this point. Recall how national after midnight curfews a while back where changed for Sosua and there was an exception for this little town, because they got this point across to the authority. This woman mayor is probably doing the opposite.
In a few months Sosua will become a ghost town, it's all supply and demand. Once punters start cancelling trips, the chicas will not bother to turn up, why should they go to a place that get hassled and arrested and then not even find a punter to make it worthwhile.
I've been trying to get this same point across to my friend with no luck. For some reason he is hell bent on believing that "Aw, this only means that the girls will only show to the clubs at night." When I tell him that they would be arrested trying to get to the club his answer to that is "Aw, they'll just take a motochono to the (front of) club."
He seems to believe that all this is geared towards making Sosua "family-friendly" during the day, and that it will still be "Rated R" during the night because this is when most of the family, especially the kids, will be asleep...perfectly unaware of what goes on after dark. I'm like seriously? So more families can come to Sosua? Are you kidding me? His answer to that was "Cabarete is more expensive, so families may want to stay in Sosua because it is cheaper..."
He refuses to except the premise that all of the arrest of chicas is perfectly designed so that they will pass the word to their sisters, amigas, and cousins that it is not worth while to go to Sosua because you will get arrested. How does that benefit a chica spending a day or night in jail when she could have been making money? That is like a hourly wage worker having to call off that day because his car wouldn't start; you don't get paid on days you don't work.
He just won't believe that this will have a trickle-down effect in any way, shape, or fashion. When chicas pass the word to other chicas and stop showing up for fear of being arrested, guys will stop showing up if there are no women around! Meaning the process produced it's intended effect. He also refuses to believe that just because the Vice Mayor of Sosua is also the owner of Latinos, nothing is going to change because he doesn't want to lose any business. Well, it sure as hell doesn't mean that he can easily be bought out if only just to close the place down I said.
To him, all this means is "business as usual, except things will happen a lot later at night."
I disagree with you in your anger towards the female Mayor of Sosua. Again, she is only a sock-puppet following orders from whoever has their hand up her culo. I stand by my belief that there are investor/developers wanting to turn Sosua into "New Cabarete" or "Punta Cana North." As if they don't already have enough places in the DR where people can fly hundreds of miles over just to lay in the sun in beach chairs all day looking at each other stupidly.
No, she is just taking orders and I believe this is the first step of a grander scheme. $89/per night for a King room at Terra Linda (which was only $55/per night back in March of this year when I stayed there) should have been the first sign of things to come. But first that have to do away with the pros.
.....I disagree with you in your anger towards the female Mayor of Sosua. Again, she is only a sock-puppet following orders from whoever has their hand up her culo........
I have to agree with you on this. No way could the mayor attemp to try to pull this off without some strong backing. When the crack down started there were those who said it won't last. Seems to be getting much worse than better.
Although I am disappointed with the recent backlash against prostitution in sousa I am not surprised. If you look at it from an outsider's point of view you will see it as a cesspool of filth ripe with disease and deprivation.
There are some of us that happen to like visiting such places but in the case of sosua it is right in your face without any attempts to hide it. I've never been to thailand but I assume pattaya is much the same way. Sosua has potential as a tourist town much like neighboring cabarete. They could very well promote it for scuba diving all inclusives tennis/beach resorts or as an extension of cabarete which is what they most likely envision it to be.
None of this progress can be made while NY Party Guys and their Euro counterparts are dirtying the image of sosua and creating such a dirty unhealthy living environment. The bucks come once the trash leaves or the bucks pay to make the trash leave.
* Disclaimer " These are not artisttyp's personal views" These are my opinions as to why such action is taking place in sosua.
- Life Life Eat Ass -
Charlie Horse
11-22-10, 02:32
I have to agree with you on this. No way could the mayor attemp to try to pull this off without some strong backing. When the crack down started there were those who said it won't last. Seems to be getting much worse than better.
Considering the overall worldwide economy, the timing doesn't make much sense. Is Iberostar, Marriott or Hilton suddenly flush with cash and willing to make a significant investment in the North Coast?
I don't get it.
SavePros321
11-22-10, 02:38
Sosua has potential as a tourist town much like neighboring cabarete. They could very well promote it for scuba diving all inclusives tennis/beach resorts or as an extension of cabarete which is what they most likely envision it to be.
None of this progress can be made while NY Party Guys and their Euro counterparts are dirtying the image of sosua and creating such a dirty unhealthy living environment. The bucks come once the trash leaves or the bucks pay to make the trash leave.
* Disclaimer " These are not artisttyp's personal views" These are my opinions as to why such action is taking place in sosua.
- Life Life Eat Ass -
Well, I guess we can look at this in a positive light. I'm mean, look at all the jobs that will be created with more resorts! There are so many resorts in the DR already that it's no wonder they have such a low unemployment rate....right? More resorts should help to lower it even further!
It's a good thing they thought about their own people when implementing this crackdown. Now everyone will have a job! At the resorts....that haven't been built yet....
And just in time for Christmas too! This should prove to be a very merry Christmas indeed for the folks in Monte Lano.
It's nice to see that politico's are no different anywhere in ANY country. Our sellouts sold us out to the Chinese long time ago...I guess Sosua is going to the Russians.
What you say makes sense to me. Someone has a vision for Sosua. Whether or not it unfolds only time will tell. If the mongers pack up and leave Sosua will not starve to death.
..... There are some of us that happen to like visiting such places but in the case of sosua it is right in your face without any attempts to hide it......
Five years ago daytime in Sosua was "tourist" friendly. I made a brief stop in Sosua about six months ago and could not believe the amount of putas out and about mid afternoon.
Although I am disappointed with the recent backlash against prostitution in sousa I am not surprised. If you look at it from an outsider's point of view you will see it as a cesspool of filth ripe with disease and deprivation.
There are some of us that happen to like visiting such places but in the case of sosua it is right in your face without any attempts to hide it. I've never been to thailand but I assume pattaya is much the same way. Sosua has potential as a tourist town much like neighboring cabarete. They could very well promote it for scuba diving all inclusives tennis/beach resorts or as an extension of cabarete which is what they most likely envision it to be.
None of this progress can be made while NY Party Guys and their Euro counterparts are dirtying the image of sosua and creating such a dirty unhealthy living environment. The bucks come once the trash leaves or the bucks pay to make the trash leave.
* Disclaimer " These are not artisttyp's personal views" These are my opinions as to why such action is taking place in sosua.
- Life Life Eat Ass -
Well, I guess we can look at this in a positive light. I'm mean, look at all the jobs that will be created with more resorts! There are so many resorts in the DR already that it's no wonder they have such a low unemployment rate. Right? More resorts should help to lower it even further!
It's a good thing they thought about their own people when implementing this crackdown. Now everyone will have a job! At the resorts. That haven't been built yet.
And just in time for Christmas too! This should prove to be a very Merry Christmas indeed for the folks in Monte Lano.
It's nice to see that politico's are no different anywhere in ANY country. Our sellouts sold us out to the Chinese long time ago. I guess Sosua is going to the Russians.As usual your posts are dead on. But the "Dominican way" never is understandable. The mongerers money that is filtered to the Dominican community will be missed. If not someone tell me how the shortfall will be countered? The euro investors are part of the game plan, but in time Sosua will revolve back to how we know it.
Well, I guess we can look at this in a positive light. I'm mean, look at all the jobs that will be created with more resorts! There are so many resorts in the DR already that it's no wonder they have such a low unemployment rate....right? More resorts should help to lower it even further!.....
Quite possibly there are no plans what so ever for new resorts. Maybe the cleanup is also to make Sosua a family friendly spot for locals. They cleaned up Boca Chica a few years ago and now on weekends and holidays BC is packed with locals.
What ever the end result of Sosua and Santo Domingo I will grin and bear it.
The weekend of December 3 in Sosua will be very interesting.
Abr Mainline
11-22-10, 03:24
You maybe onto something, maybe some big name resorts or hotels(Marriott/Hilton) want to move in.The Mayor(female) may have her hands tied or she can look at how much more money a resort/hotel can bring into the country. That or she can be looking out for the women of Sosua and maybe she wants a better life for them besides selling there ass?
Abr Mainline
11-22-10, 03:41
Maybe the (Mayor) and the people of DR want to change the mindset of everyone not to think of DR as a place to come and ***k there women, but to bring your families and be safe walk the streets at night or day and not see all that goes on, women walking around selling themselves half naked and what not?
John from NJ
11-22-10, 04:42
....... They could very well promote it for scuba diving ............. -If they get rid of the chicas and mongers perhaps Sosua could be turned into a cheap family tourist spot. But it will never become a scuba diving destination. Serious divers would never consider going to Sosua or anywhere else in the DR for a dive vacation. The world class diving does not exist in the DR.
John from NJ
11-22-10, 04:49
Will be in Sosua 11/27 – 12/4 and staying at D’Piero. Based on prior post sounds like I may be attending Socua’s memorial service. Could use a wingman to help mourn the death of Sosua. Anyone going to be there?
John from NJ
11-22-10, 05:03
A lot of talk about this on the other board.
http://www.sosuanews.com/index.php
I'm afraid I will be attending Sosua's memorial service will I arrive on the 27th.
I am there in a few days and have not given up on Sosua yet. So from what I hear is daytime mongering limited to the hotels (like NG, Europa etc) and la passion. Where else can one find daytime action? how about the beach? I tried calling up my old contacts and 90% of the numbers are disconnected. I guess the local hustlers (like Ramon) would have field day arranging dates. I read the sosua news article. It says a woman cannot be found alone in a bar or restaurant or on the street at night. Well they have to get past all that to get to classicos or other discos and I guess its ok to be alone inside the disco?? Its not clear how this is going to work out. Somehow I feel its advantage to the monger in terms of negotiations and making sure the chica stays toda noche...:))
ForceSteeler
11-22-10, 05:37
Well guys i will give you a secret, the best time to go to DR, Brazil,etc.. is a week before christmas.
Sousa is going to packed with bitches from all over the Dominican Republic, Its Christmas time so they need money for gifts for there family, friends and children. so everybody is going to be thirsty for cash. You will have alot of fresh meat in Sosua.
I will be in sousa a few days before Christmas. So I will give you guys first hand intel.
Well, I guess we can look at this in a positive light. I'm mean, look at all the jobs that will be created with more resorts! There are so many resorts in the DR already that it's no wonder they have such a low unemployment rate....right? More resorts should help to lower it even further!
It's a good thing they thought about their own people when implementing this crackdown. Now everyone will have a job! At the resorts....that haven't been built yet....
And just in time for Christmas too! This should prove to be a very merry Christmas indeed for the folks in Monte Lano.
It's nice to see that politico's are no different anywhere in ANY country. Our sellouts sold us out to the Chinese long time ago...I guess Sosua is going to the Russians.
I value your opinion. My opinion is different. As equity markets never improve until debt markets improve, same way DR. Spain now has a glut of investment oppotunities, it's first world jurisdiction only hours from European countries. I follow European forums and I know what I am talking about. Btw, Cabarete is a disaster, a desert in comparison to every other successful tourist destination. Turkey, Egypt, Spain, Cyprus, Croatia etc are times closer, cheaper and more friendly. Any investment plot to turn Sosua into New Buenos Aires? I call it baloney.
Also, half of the street 'business' is done before dark, there is some game on the beach, then like up to third from lunch time to before night falls.
I value your opinion. My opinion is different. As equity markets never improve until debt markets improve, same way DR. Spain now has a glut of investment oppotunities, it's first world jurisdiction only hours from European countries. I follow European forums and I know what I am talking about. BTW, Cabarete is a disaster, a desert in comparison to every other successful tourist destination. Turkey, Egypt, Spain, Cyprus, Croatia etc are times closer, cheaper and more friendly. Any investment plot to turn Sosua into New Buenos Aires? I call it baloney.
Also, half of the street 'business' is done before dark, there is some game on the beach, then like up to third from lunch time to before night falls.I also value your opinion, but mine is different. The beach in Sosua has no more game like before.
Cabarette a desert? Have you been there at night and noticed all the people hanging out having a good romantic meal, or the jazz festivals that have live entertainment on the beach. Cabarettes problem is that they can't expand. As for as world economics you seem to know what your talking about.
Sure, there may be some cosmetic changes in how the game is played in Sosua, but a statement from some politician is not going to change the fundamentals, which are:
Poverty
Unlimited supply of unemployed young women
Easy money from sex seeking tourists
Free enterprise culture
Cultural acceptance of prostitution in general
Relatively safe, cheap and close to the U.S.
We have politicians that have "cleaned up" my city in Canada, but prostitution is more prevalent than ever, only its gone to hotel rooms, massage parlours, and outcalls.
But Canada's lack of the basic fundamentals listed above, means that it is an expensive, hit and miss service, with no reasonable guarantee of a satisfying outcome. That's why we look elsewhere.
As long as there are lots of rich guys looking and lots of needy girls to look at, the age old deals will still be struck.
And for guys like me that likes to hook up with a regular, no big deal. She also has a wide circle of friends, so I can still do my ogling and side deals too, if need there be.
But if politicians can change the culture by decree, it would be the first time in history.
SavePros321
11-22-10, 14:43
The Mayor(female) may have her hands tied or she can look at how much more money a resort/hotel can bring into the country. That or she can be looking out for the women of Sosua and maybe she wants a better life for them besides selling there ass?
I can tell you right now that the Mayor has no input in this whatsoever. The money coming into Sosua is what is behind the crackdowns and they are the ones giving her marching orders.
Even if we followed this premise, how is she wanting a better life for them without providing job opportunities for them? They have taken away the only source for girls to make any real money, and this is all most of the girls have known for a very long time. It's like taking someone off of crack or heroine without providing them the necessary treatment for transition.
I don't know if you have stayed at any of the hotels in Sosua, but how many of these Marriott/Hiltons do you think will hire an abundance of women? There are a total of 3 guys working the front desk at Terra Linda at any given time (Willie, Andre, and the blanco-skinned guy with the dark hair); 2-3 girls working the bar in the restaurant. The maids are older women. New Garden has even less; A girl works the front desk when Omar is not there, and there is one server girl who I think is there every day. The cooks are male. The maids are older women.
I don't think any new hotel/resort will be much different.
SavePros321
11-22-10, 15:10
As usual your posts are dead on. But the "Dominican way" never is understandable. The mongerers money that is filtered to the Dominican community will be missed.
Whether the folks there want to admit it or not, we provided a quick fix to a problem they either don't care to fix or are too lazy to put in any effort to fix: unemployment.
There is nowhere on that side of the island where a chica can go and make the kind of money she makes off a tourist. Especially when you factor in the times when she hooks up with someone ignorant to the price structure and overpays. Even half-way decent looking girls come to Sosua and can earn. I know everyone knows the big girl with the blond afro. Somebody is giving her money because I always see her on the strip in Sosua every trip! She is pushy as hell but I always tell her I have a girlfriend and she leaves me alone. If she wasn't making any money she wouldn't continue to come to Sosua.
Another unspoken truth is that Sosua is a "quick fix" for almost all the women all over the island. Chicas come from as far as Boca Chica and Santo Domingo to get a quick fix for family problems. It's like a an epic Quest for some of them. If a family member/kid gets sick or needs money for something important, what does the family/village do? They send out their best on a mission.
-She dons her "Warpaint" (Hair, makeup, nails etc. She may even have to borrow pesos from friends and family to get this done but she knows she will earn enough in Sosua to pay them back)
-She readies her armor (clothes, shoes, jewelry)
-She mounts her horse (Caribe Tours)
-After staying in Sosua for a few days or even a week she returns from her quest to her village either sucessful or a failure
The DR can kid themselves all they want to but WE know that they have nothing for these chicas in replace of the income we provide them. To somehow believe that they will all give up hooking and go enroll in the University or work at a normal job (which is in short supply there to begin with) is laughable.
They only thing that ever got hurt in Sosua is feelings. And it was usually the monger who was it's casualty. Which reminds me of another point: chicas who are skilled in the art of spell casting (wizard class) can easily get set up with a "retainer-boi" via Western Union!
Whether the folks there want to admit it or not, we provided a quick fix to a problem they either don't care to fix or are too lazy to put in any effort to fix: unemployment.
There is nowhere on that side of the island where a chica can go and make the kind of money she makes off a tourist. Especially when you factor in the times when she hooks up with someone ignorant to the price structure and overpays. Even half-way decent looking girls come to Sosua and can earn. I know everyone knows the big girl with the blond afro. Somebody is giving her money because I always see her on the strip in Sosua every trip! She is pushy as hell but I always tell her I have a girlfriend and she leaves me alone. If she wasn't making any money she wouldn't continue to come to Sosua.
Another unspoken truth is that Sosua is a "quick fix" for almost all the women all over the island. Chicas come from as far as Boca Chica and Santo Domingo to get a quick fix for family problems. It's like a an epic Quest for some of them. If a family member/kid gets sick or needs money for something important, what does the family/village do? They send out their best on a mission.
-She dons her "Warpaint" (Hair, makeup, nails etc. She may even have to borrow pesos from friends and family to get this done but she knows she will earn enough in Sosua to pay them back)
-She readies her armor (clothes, shoes, jewelry)
-She mounts her horse (Caribe Tours)
-After staying in Sosua for a few days or even a week she returns from her quest to her village either sucessful or a failure
The DR can kid themselves all they want to but WE know that they have nothing for these chicas in replace of the income we provide them. To somehow believe that they will all give up hooking and go enroll in the University or work at a normal job (which is in short supply there to begin with) is laughable.
They only thing that ever got hurt in Sosua is feelings. And it was usually the monger who was it's casualty. Which reminds me of another point: chicas who are skilled in the art of spell casting (wizard class) can easily get set up with a "retainer-boi" via Western Union!Comprendo, but guys who are less inclined to visit will stop Western Union payments. Most guys send money to places they frequent. What kills me is their timing with the crackdown. Why not wait till the year is over and start a "new initiative" rather than kill Christmas?
I can tell you right now that the Mayor has no input in this whatsoever. The money coming into Sosua is what is behind the crackdowns and they are the ones giving her marching orders.
So what exactly is the source of your information?
While Ilana Neumann is the new Mayor of Sosua, Willy Olivences the owner of the Sosua Life nightclub a.k.a. Latinos is the deputy Mayor, so where does he come into the picture?
And what are the politics of the PRD. I'm no expert on Dominican politics, but my understanding is that the PRD is a left wing party and has a history of spending a lot of money creating jobs for poor Dominicans.
SavePros321
11-22-10, 18:07
So what exactly is the source of your information?
While Ilana Neumann is the new Mayor of Sosua, Willy Olivences the owner of the Sosua Life nightclub a.k.a. Latinos is the deputy Mayor, so where does he come into the picture?
And what are the politics of the PRD. I'm no expert on Dominican politics, but my understanding is that the PRD is a left wing party and has a history of spending a lot of money creating jobs for poor Dominicans.
A history of spending a lot of money to create jobs WHERE???
As far as where my information comes from I am purely speculating as to what is going on. I ask the same question as you: where does the Deputy Mayor come into the picture? Because surely he wouldn't purposely be commiting Hari Kari with his business, right? What does he stand to gain in this crackdown other than less people visiting his town and spending money at his bar?
BUT, if someone behind the scenes offered to buy his bar at a later date once the cleanup has been completed, then of course he'd go along with the process with no fuss.
Let's look at this further: I do not know how the election process works in Sosua, but who elected the female mayor to begin with? Surely it wasn't the chicas; surely it wasn't Wilfred of NG knowing what her plans would do to his business. As fucked up as the situation of prostitution may be, do you think the citizens there are happy that there will be no more stupid gringo money coming into their home brought home by their daughters, nieces, granddaughters? Somebody's going to be missing a few more meals in the mean time...well, until the PRD creates all those new jobs as you put it, lol!
And sorry, I'm still not convinced this is all of her planning and doing, not for one minute. When you have people like mayor Bloomberg trying to convince New Yorkers that the Ground Zero Mosque will be good for New York, you close your ears, open your eyes, and FOLLOW THE MONEY TRAIL leading up to the doorsteps of his office.
So the PRD is going to create all new jobs for the chicas, huh? Just in time for Christmas too, right? Can't wait to see that!
P.S. If this is going to be bad for Dominicanas, you can only imagine how ruff it's going to be for the Haitianas...
Charles Pooter
11-22-10, 18:17
And what are the politics of the PRD. I'm no expert on Dominican politics, but my understanding is that the PRD is a left wing party and has a history of spending a lot of money creating jobs for poor Dominicans.
There is really no ideological differences between the parties. In fact they are not really political parties at all in the European sense (though maybe a little bit nearer to what are laughably called political parties in the US).
Both main parties were founded by the same man, Juan Bosch, which indicates you would have a job to insert a cigarette paper between their ideologies.
And in any case their ideologies are just cosmetic. Better to think of them as being like two mafia families who sometimes bicker about sharing out their ill-gotten gains but can be relied upon to close ranks when the whole rotten system and their common interests are threatened. All the top people of all parties have dinner together, inter-marry, promote commercial scams together, and cover up each others crimes on the rare occasions they are brought to light.
The US State Department and the CIA would not permit the existence of a genuinely left-wing party in the Dominican Republic. Nor is the country ready for one educationally or culturally.
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