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What does CMP stand for? Caribbean Man Paradise. I also really enjoyed this place!
Monger1337
01-09-11, 23:24
BB's today! Things are damn good so far. I like BB's especailly after the cuture shock of my first night in sosua! I needed a minute to adjust to that insanity and BB's did just that. I love this place. I just had ST with two absolutely AMAZING chicas. A good while in the Jacuzzi time with BBBJ followed by some more ST in the room. Karen why Ana. I have pics, but honestly I am not sober enough to coordinate posting them. Later gentlemen. Later. I've made some delightful acquaintances here of folks who speak English. I think I made the best choice for an inexperienced international monger. I dipped my toes into Sosua last night. Now I'm taking it easy at BB's and still working on my Spanish a little while being a little more relaxed about watching my back. Thank you all for all you have posted on this board. It has made me educated enough to design a vacation tailored to my specific needs. With 3 years of college Spanish and minimal operative experience, this has been a perfect way to practice Spanish and relieve any stress real or imagined I may have had. I think life itself has hit perfection in my world. Thanks guys.
Vincelee76
01-10-11, 07:54
It's called Elevex and I like the price 50P per pill and result.Hello,
I noticed that some of you guys are taking vigara or celias to get a hard on.
Perhaps it might be a good idea to consult your doctors first.
I have heard that these drugs increase blood pressure, and has other side effects. For some men who are in their 50 or 60 or even 70's or even someone with history of heart condition, strokes, might not want to increase their blood pressures.
I was in Thailand a few years ago. Watching the local Thai news. That month it was reported in Bangkok, their police found 10 German male tourists died of heart related conditions in their hotel rooms after taking vigara and trying to get together with local girls.
This would be a terrible way to die, in a foreign country.
Perhaps there are other ways to get hard. Maybe hire a local girl that will give you a long time blow jobs.
Manizales911
01-10-11, 14:57
Hello,
I noticed that some of you guys are taking vigara or celias to get a hard on.
Perhaps it might be a good idea to consult your doctors first.
I have heard that these drugs increase blood pressure, and has other side effects. For some men who are in their 50 or 60 or even 70's or even someone with history of heart condition, strokes, might not want to increase their blood pressures.
I was in Thailand a few years ago. Watching the local Thai news. That month it was reported in Bangkok, their police found 10 German male tourists died of heart related conditions in their hotel rooms after taking vigara and trying to get together with local girls.
This would be a terrible way to die, in a foreign country.
Perhaps there are other ways to get hard. Maybe hire a local girl that will give you a long time blow jobs. A terrible way to die? Fuck, I can't think of a BETTER way to die and I can only hope it is the way I die. IMO, too many men die in nursing homes or just wither away in a rocking chair somewhere. When my time is up I hope I am balls deep in some hot babe's pussy, I know I will die in a foreign country as I plan to move to Colombia soon.
...I was in Thailand a few years ago. Watching the local Thai news. That month it was reported in Bangkok, their police found 10 German male tourists died of heart related conditions in their hotel rooms after taking vigara and trying to get together with local girls.
This would be a terrible way to die, in a foreign country. Having a heart attack while banging some teenage Thai pussy is a terrible way to die??? Dude, I think you're on the wrong board.
-Helpmann :)
having a heart attack while banging some teenage thai pussy is a terrible way to die? dude, i think you're on the wrong board.
-helpmann. lmao, funniest thing i ever saw was in times square in nyc one time. some guy was in the peep show booth beating his meat and had a heart attack and died. i over heard the cops trying to decide how they will explain this to the guys wife.
Marc Anthony
01-10-11, 16:59
Hello,
I noticed that some of you guys are taking vigara or celias to get a hard on.
Perhaps it might be a good idea to consult your doctors first.
I have heard that these drugs increase blood pressure, and has other side effects. For some men who are in their 50 or 60 or even 70's or even someone with history of heart condition, strokes, might not want to increase their blood pressures.
I was in Thailand a few years ago. Watching the local Thai news. That month it was reported in Bangkok, their police found 10 German male tourists died of heart related conditions in their hotel rooms after taking vigara and trying to get together with local girls.
This would be a terrible way to die, in a foreign country.
Perhaps there are other ways to get hard. Maybe hire a local girl that will give you a long time blow jobs. Actually the these drugs do the opposite, causing vasodilation and were originally studied for reducing hypertension, but in the drug trials they noticed the effect producing stronger erections and switched to marketing them for this side effect.
Heart attacks occur rather like they do with guys shoveling snow, because it's an occasion for unusual exertion that they may not have engaged in otherwise for a long time.
Hello,
I noticed that some of you guys are taking vigara or celias to get a hard on.
Perhaps it might be a good idea to consult your doctors first. Vincelee,
Since you are specifically frequenting a website for prostitution, and I am sure engaging in casual sex with prostitutes, I would like to encourage you to see a doctor first for advice on how to have safe sex.
Everyone here is very worried about you so please tell us you have done this.
Actually the these drugs do the opposite, causing vasodilation and were originally studied for reducing hypertension, but in the drug trials they noticed the effect producing stronger erections and switched to marketing them for this side effect.
Heart attacks occur rather like they do with guys shoveling snow, because it's an occasion for unusual exertion that they may not have engaged in otherwise for a long time.Fucking for three hours straight or more because the penis stays hard after several orgasms (result of ED drugs) , might be the exertion on the heart that causes the heart attack. Coming and going at the same time, going out with a bang. Better than dying in some hospital with a thousand tubes stuck in you.
Manizales911
01-10-11, 22:33
Guys,
I need to know where to go to watch the football games in Sosua this weekend.
Last time I went to Rocky's because they have the big screen there but the picture quality sucked and the owner / manager wanted to watch Canadian football and we had to watch the NFL games on the little TV in the restaurant area. I'm looking for a place that has multiple flat screen TV's etc.
I guess I should know the answer to this question seeing as I have been to Sosua a handful of times but TV is usually the farthest thing from my mind, hahaha.
Ipanema Carioca
01-10-11, 23:26
Actually the these drugs do the opposite, causing vasodilation and were originally studied for reducing hypertension, but in the drug trials they noticed the effect producing stronger erections and switched to marketing them for this side effect.
Heart attacks occur rather like they do with guys shoveling snow, because it's an occasion for unusual exertion that they may not have engaged in otherwise for a long time. Very true Marc Anthony. I know doctors that monger in both Rio and DR who said what you stated here.
BeaverHunter
01-11-11, 00:11
Guys,
I need to know where to go to watch the football games in Sosua this weekend.
Last time I went to Rocky's because they have the big screen there but the picture quality sucked and the owner / manager wanted to watch Canadian football and we had to watch the NFL games on the little TV in the restaurant area. I'm looking for a place that has multiple flat screen TV's etc.
I guess I should know the answer to this question seeing as I have been to Sosua a handful of times but TV is usually the farthest thing from my mind, hahaha. Try The Shark Bar on Pedro Cal. It is owned by an american named Louie.
Is there a monger map for Sosua or Puerta Plata?
Thanks
Try The Shark Bar on Pedro Cal. It is owned by an american named Louie.Rocky's has an exellent big screen.
Is there a monger map for Sosua or Puerta Plata?
ThanksHere is the one I have for Sosua. Points out some key places.
144550
Guys,
I need to know where to go to watch the football games in Sosua this weekend.
Last time I went to Rocky's because they have the big screen there but the picture quality sucked and the owner / manager wanted to watch Canadian football and we had to watch the NFL games on the little TV in the restaurant area. I'm looking for a place that has multiple flat screen TV's etc.
I guess I should know the answer to this question seeing as I have been to Sosua a handful of times but TV is usually the farthest thing from my mind, hahaha.I've watched NFL action at the open-aired sports bar across from Classicos. He has a couple of flatscreens up, don't think they are HD but good spot. Friendly owner and can look at the action during commercials. I'll be there Sat. GO PAT'S!
This has happened in the last few days.
SavePros321
01-13-11, 01:49
huge reduction of haitianas in the clubs!
this has happened in the last few days.they are all going to join the party over in haiti (some of them not by choice mind you) :
haiti earthquake one year on: the squalid tent cities where [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) gangs and disease run rife
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1346195/haiti-earthquake-year-dead-remembered-millions.html
just would like to add that it is no ones fault but haiti's that their country is still fucked up.
Cunning Linguist
01-13-11, 02:38
they are all going to join the party over in haiti (some of them not by choice mind you) :
haiti earthquake one year on: the squalid tent cities where [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) gangs and disease run rife
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1346195/haiti-earthquake-year-dead-remembered-millions.html
just would like to add that it is no ones fault but haiti's that their country is still fucked up. your ignorance shows. haiti has been singled out and punished for being the first and only successful slave revolt in history and haiti gained her freedom in 1804. economic sanctions levied by the us slave owning government, crippling reparations forced by france on haiti (which were not paid up until 1947) and constant meddling by the us, france and canada which culminated in the kidnapping of the president of haiti in 2004 by us forces have all left haiti devastated. the earthquake was a particularly devastating blow. thus, before you make asinine comments, please read up about things before you write about them. if you did read about the history of haiti, you would clearly see that it was not their fault that the country is, as you so eloquently put it, still fucked up.
As they say in AM radio talk shows, long time listener first time caller. I've been lurking on the us forum since I discovered it a year ago. Mostly to get info on the AMPs in the bay area, mostly SF where I live near. I just recently noticed the tab for ISG. Didn't post any reports, except for one, on the US forum because of the legality of the scrunched discussed, but that doesn't apply to most areas talked about on ISG.
I just want to thank all the members that have contributed valid and useful info to this forum. It is because of why'all that just after one night of going through some reports (got up to page 80 the first time) that I hoped on the computer and booked a trip to DR. Going to be there March 31 thru April 4 and staying at NG.
I don't really have any questions now because why'all have really covered all the things a noob needs to know his first trip. I'm first generation born in the US (both parents from Mexico). So my Spanish should get me thru, even tho I should know more. I use to be fluent in Spanish until I entered the US education system where I lost most of it.
I just got a paid membership to this forum because I was interested in looking at the pics, so those have posted, thanks. I will post reports on my experiences and some pics. I know most noobs say that and never do. In the career I am in, one of the core values is Integrity First. So if I say I'm going to do something I will.
Look forward to my trip and to contribute to this forum. Hope to gain some of yalls trust so I could get some info possibly numbers on non-pros cause that seems to be the best experience in DR from what I have read. Have checked out Dominican Cupid. Really interested in those non-pro experiences but don't want to take the chance of striking out with one consider this is my first trip and will be there for less than I week.
So again, Gracias!
On my last post, if some words seem out of place or don't make sense it's because I typed it on my smartphone. Damn "word suggestion" feature and didn't proof read it.
BogieMaker
01-13-11, 05:21
On my last post, if some words seem out of place or don't make sense it's because I typed it on my smartphone. Damn "word suggestion" feature and didn't proof read it.My smart phone is slowly learning Spanish.
I have most likely read some of your posts on the SF AMP scene. I get there about once a year and like to catch before making the trip. Hope you have a good time in Sosua.
Your ignorance shows. Haiti has been singled out and punished for being the first and only successful slave revolt in history and Haiti gained her freedom in 1804. Economic sanctions levied by the US slave owning government, crippling reparations forced by France on Haiti (which were not paid up until 1947) and constant meddling by the US, France and Canada which culminated in the kidnapping of the president of Haiti in 2004 by US forces have all left Haiti devastated. The earthquake was a particularly devastating blow. Thus, before you make asinine comments, please read up about things before you write about them. If you did read about the history of Haiti, you would clearly see that it was not their fault that the country is, as you so eloquently put it, still fucked up.An article from the book Collapse by Jared Diamond, http://www.theglobalist.com/storyid.aspx?storyid=4776.
An excerpt:
Why did the political, economic and ecological histories of these two countries — the Dominican Republic and Haiti — sharing the same island unfold so differently? Part of the answer involves environmental differences.
The island of Hispaniola's rains come mainly from the east. Hence the Dominican (eastern) part of the island receives more rain and thus supports higher rates of plant growth.
Hispaniola's highest mountains (over 10, 000 feet high) are on the Dominican side, and the rivers from those high mountains mainly flow eastwards into the Dominican side.
The Dominican side has broad valleys, plains and plateaus and much thicker soils. In particular, the Cibao Valley in the north is one of the richest agricultural areas in the world.
In contrast, the Haitian side is drier because of that barrier of high mountains blocking rains from the east.
Compared to the Dominican Republic, the area of flat land good for intensive agriculture in Haiti is much smaller, as a higher percentage of Haiti's area is mountainous. There is more limestone terrain, and the soils are thinner and less fertile and have a lower capacity for recovery.
SavePros321
01-13-11, 15:37
Your ignorance shows. Haiti has been singled out and punished for being the first and only successful slave revolt in history and Haiti gained her freedom in 1804. Economic sanctions levied by the US slave owning government, crippling reparations forced by France on Haiti (which were not paid up until 1947) and constant meddling by the US, France and Canada which culminated in the kidnapping of the president of Haiti in 2004 by US forces have all left Haiti devastated. The earthquake was a particularly devastating blow. Thus, before you make asinine comments, please read up about things before you write about them. If you did read about the history of Haiti, you would clearly see that it was not their fault that the country is, as you so eloquently put it, still fucked up.Sorry, you've said nothing that I didn't already know. The slave revolt in Haiti was also the inspiration for Nat Turner's Rebellion here in the US (if you didn't know that).
All I see in your comment are a bunch of excuses. The country has a lot of corruption. Period. Just like Robert Mugabe's Zimbabwe.
...and constant meddling by the US, France and Canada which culminated in the kidnapping of the president of Haiti in 2004 by US forces have all left Haiti devastated.
Where is your source of reference for this info? Because that comment comes off more as speculation than fact.
Cunning Linguist
01-13-11, 23:08
Sorry, you've said nothing that I didn't already know. The slave revolt in Haiti was also the inspiration for Nat Turner's Rebellion here in the US (if you didn't know that).
All I see in your comment are a bunch of excuses. The country has a lot of corruption. Period. Just like Robert Mugabe's Zimbabwe.
Where is your source of reference for this info? Because that comment comes off more as speculation than fact. Believe it or not, there is very little government corruption for the simple reason that there is very little government there. TO be sure, the little government that there is can be safely considered as corrupt but they are in the pay of the big powers. The Haitian State, such as it is, has been dismantled and it is now a country run by NGOs.
As for the sources, the best source is "An Unbroken Agony" by Randall Robinson. He went with a USA Congresswoman to rescue Aristide when he was whisked away by USA forces to the Central African Republic. Robinson gives an eyewitness account of the whole affair (complete with Aristide's pilot who was an eyewitness of the President's involuntary departure). Another good book is Damming the Flood by Peter Hallward, a very well-researched book with documented footnotes.
Even the last OAS representative to Haiti, Ricardo Seitenfus has admitted that "Today it's worse with Haiti turned 'into a capitalist country, an export platform for the American market, it is absurd' and deeply exploitive. 'More than 90% of the education and health systems are in private hands. The country has no public resources for the functioning of an official system even in a minimal fashion. When the unemployment (underemployment) rate is at 80, deploying a stabilizing mission is intolerable. There is nothing to stabilize. Its mandate in Haiti is to keep peace of the cemetery. '
In short, the evidence that Haiti has its ills foisted upon it by outside powers is overwhelming if you just dig into its history. The current Haitian "government" is one that has foisted upon the Haitian people after the 2004 intervention and has very little popularity. The latest election shennanigans (Nov 28) shows that the USA, France, etc. Intend to keep on with the farce of the sham election. Only about 28% (if that) voted in the elections and the election fraud was so obvious and manifest that they are struggling to find a way to justify it (This after not letting the most popular party participate, like outlawing the Republican Party in Oklahoma).
I have been Haiti a few times now, speak Creole and have read up on the situation quite a bit. I have talked to a lot of Haitians about this and have heard many sides but the havenots all want Aristide back. What Haiti needs is for MINUSTAH (UN forces) to leave, the US to leave, and for true, all-inclusive participatory elections to take place. No, the Haitian people do NOT deserve their lot. The US media conveniently ignores the salient reasons behind Haiti's misery. Reading up on the history is a onerous task. It requires work and an understanding of the country. In any case, Haiti is NOT Zimbabwe.
Have you read up on Haitian history? Do you speak Creole? Have you visited Haiti very much? Are there any books that say that Haiti is "fucked up" just because there is corruption? (and no explanation for that corruption except that they are poor Third World Blacks)? I don't think so.
Cunning Linguist
01-13-11, 23:18
An article from the book Collapse by Jared Diamond,
http://www.theglobalist.com/storyid.aspx?storyid=4776.
An excerpt:That explains the weather side but not the historical side. Haiti used to be the richest colony in the Americas. It is hard to believe but it generated far more money for France than the 13 colonies did for England. One reason for the deforestation is the dire economic situation of the people. Their agriculture was also damaged by the US insistence on killing their native pig population and on removing tariffs on rice imports. The US occupation of Haiti from 1915-1934 and the oppressive Haitian Army they set up resulted in further decades of oppression and destitution of the peasant population. With nothing else to cook with (coal, electricity, gas, etc.) , it is hardly surprising that the forests were stripped. This coupled with the climatic conditions explain the current state of the Haitian countryside. Diamond gives some insight but that is not the whole picture.
SavePros321
01-14-11, 00:43
In short, the evidence that Haiti has its ills foisted upon it by outside powers is overwhelming if you just dig into its history. The current Haitian "government" is one that has foisted upon the Haitian people after the 2004 intervention and has very little popularity. The latest election shennanigans (Nov 28) shows that the USA, France, etc. Intend to keep on with the farce of the sham election. Only about 28% (if that) voted in the elections and the election fraud was so obvious and manifest that they are struggling to find a way to justify it (This after not letting the most popular party participate, like outlawing the Republican Party in Oklahoma).
I have been Haiti a few times now, speak Creole and have read up on the situation quite a bit. I have talked to a lot of Haitians about this and have heard many sides but the havenots all want Aristide back. What Haiti needs is for MINUSTAH (UN forces) to leave, the US to leave, and for true, all-inclusive participatory elections to take place. No, the Haitian people do NOT deserve their lot. The US media conveniently ignores the salient reasons behind Haiti's misery. Reading up on the history is a onerous task. It requires work and an understanding of the country. In any case, Haiti is NOT Zimbabwe.
Have you read up on Haitian history? Do you speak Creole? Have you visited Haiti very much? Are there any books that say that Haiti is "fucked up" just because there is corruption? (and no explanation for that corruption except that they are poor Third World Blacks)? I don't think so. I can only go by what the people who actually live there have to say about it:
"Honest people don't go into politics in Haiti. To be in politics you have yo belong to a closed circle of men who think only of themselves, who at times can resort to killing."
-Port-au-Prince Police Chief who has survived 2 assassination attempts believed to be ordered by politicians.
@23:16 in the video.
"Corruption is not only in the Justice system. In Haiti, corruption is everywhere. You have corruption in the customs, you have corruption in the tax office."
-Former Minister of Justice.
@34:19 in the video.
"The Red Cross, USAID, World Vision, those people care, they want to help us. But our leaders won't sit down with us."
-Mr. Osay (spelling) , a resident who lost everything in the earthquake.
@38:40 in the video.
He later goes on to say @39:10:
"It's economic power which makes you an adult. It's not your age, it's your economic power. In Haiti, the system is so rotten that whatever your age, you always remain a child"
The Video: Battle for Haiti (PBS Frontline Documentary) :
http://video.pbs.org/video/1737171448
NOTE: The people in the video are not blaming their corruption problems on outside forces like the US or Canada.
SavePros.
Is there anywhere in the world that honest people go into politics? Haiti is hardly unique in that aspect.
Cunning Linguist
01-14-11, 02:19
I can only go by what the people who actually live there have to say about it:
"Honest people don't go into politics in Haiti. To be in politics you have yo belong to a closed circle of men who think only of themselves, who at times can resort to killing."
-Port-au-Prince Police Chief who has survived 2 assassination attempts believed to be ordered by politicians.
@23:16 in the video.
"Corruption is not only in the Justice system. In Haiti, corruption is everywhere. You have corruption in the customs, you have corruption in the tax office."
-Former Minister of Justice.
@34:19 in the video.
"The Red Cross, USAID, World Vision, those people care, they want to help us. But our leaders won't sit down with us."
-Mr. Osay (spelling) , a resident who lost everything in the earthquake.
@38:40 in the video.
He later goes on to say@39:10:
"It's economic power which makes you an adult. It's not your age, it's your economic power. In Haiti, the system is so rotten that whatever your age, you always remain a child"
The Video: Battle for Haiti (PBS Frontline Documentary) :
http://video.pbs.org/video/1737171448
NOTE: The people in the video are not blaming their corruption problems on outside forces like the US or Canada. Yes, corruption is endemic in Haiti. The Haitian Government only controls the airport and ports, a few cops, not much else. The MINUSTAH controls the country, probably to protect the incredibly corrupt and cruel Haitian elite from the ravenous Haitian masses. Aristide disbanded the US-trained Haitian Army and UN forces are the only way the Americans can hold on to the reins of power in Haiti.
Those people on the video confirm the awful nature of the system, such as there is of one. However, you fail to address the question: why is Haiti in such dire straits (or fucked up as you put it). Corruption is rife in the Dominican Republic as well. Mexico is sick with corruption yet Haiti is far worse. Corruption is a nasty symptom, not the disease. Arguably, without USA, French, and Canadian interference, Haiti probably would still be as corrupt as most Caribbean countries but the lot of the people would be far better (with their self-sufficiency in rice, their livestock intact, etc.) than now and, with a functioning state that doesn't depend on thousands of NGOs, the earthquake rebuilding would have gone much better.
I am unable to watch the video link as I don't live in the USA but I am hardly surprised that no mention is made of USA interference given that PBS is a US government-funded institution, even if PBS has a "liberal" reputation. I know that many Americans are loathe to think that their government can be up to very nasty tricks bordering on genocide (Haiti, Guatemala in the 1980's, etc.). The truth hurts. The American people are, for the most part, very decent, very nice people. A shame that is not the case for much of the State Department. There are reasons in much of the world why the US Government is seethingly loathed while individual Americans are, for the most part, well-liked.
I still say that reading the books I mentioned is much, much more thorough and informative than watching a 55 minute long video. Try.
www.haitian-truth.org
Or.
www.haitiananalysis.com
For more thorough information on the situation in Haiti.
I talked to many Haitians in July last year and all of them despised most NGOs. They mistrusted me at first because, ironically, I speak Creole but when they were convinced I was no NGO person or fucking missionary, they opened up. They are suffering and resent the American / UN / NGO occupation though they are desperate for their scraps and whatever they can get from them. The tent people, the Haitian peasants, etc. Might be ignorant and largely illiterate but they know why the popular leader Aristide (twice elected by huge majorities, twice removed by US machinations) was whisked away and why he is unable to return (in violation of the Haitian Constitution, such as it is). The Haitians are very politically aware which explains why 72. 9 % did NOT vote in the November 28 sham elections.
It is hard to believe that the Dominican Republic got its independence not from Spain but from Haiti. Amazing how the tables have turned but the reasons are easy to find.
Perhaps some people on the thread might not appreciate this discussion about Haiti on the Sosúa thread but at least they should know why there are (or were) so many Haitian women in Sosúa and their desperate plight. Sorry but in light of the crackdown on Haitians in Sosúa and in memory of the 300, 000 earthquake victims, it was worth my time to discuss the tragedy of Haiti. My favourite girls were all Haitian there.
.....Perhaps some people on the thread might not appreciate this discussion about Haiti on the Sosúa thread but at least they should know why there are (or were) so many Haitian women in Sosúa and their desperate plight. Sorry but in light of the crackdown on Haitians in Sosúa and in memory of the 300, 000 earthquake victims, it was worth my time to discuss the tragedy of Haiti. My favourite girls were all Haitian there.Well, if it belongs here or not I have found the information posted very interesting and learned a few things myself.
SavePros321
01-14-11, 03:35
Those people on the video confirm the awful nature of the system, such as there is of one. However, you fail to address the question: why is Haiti in such dire straits (or fucked up as you put it). Corruption is rife in the Dominican Republic as well. Mexico is sick with corruption yet Haiti is far worse. Corruption is a nasty symptom, not the disease. Arguably, without USA, French, and Canadian interference, Haiti probably would still be as corrupt as most Caribbean countries but the lot of the people would be far better (with their self-sufficiency in rice, their livestock intact, etc.) than now and, with a functioning state that doesn't depend on thousands of NGOs, the earthquake rebuilding would have gone much better.
I am unable to watch the video link as I don't live in the USA but I am hardly surprised that no mention is made of USA interference given that PBS is a US government-funded institution, even if PBS has a "liberal" reputation. I know that many Americans are loathe to think that their government can be up to very nasty tricks bordering on genocide (Haiti, Guatemala in the 1980's, etc.). The truth hurts. The American people are, for the most part, very decent, very nice people. A shame that is not the case for much of the State Department. There are reasons in much of the world why the US Government is seethingly loathed while individual Americans are, for the most part, well-liked.
Perhaps some people on the thread might not appreciate this discussion about Haiti on the Sosúa thread but at least they should know why there are (or were) so many Haitian women in Sosúa and their desperate plight. Sorry but in light of the crackdown on Haitians in Sosúa and in memory of the 300, 000 earthquake victims, it was worth my time to discuss the tragedy of Haiti. My favourite girls were all Haitian there. That's fine. The point I was trying to make is that a year after the earthquake where people are still living in tent cities and squalor, if that is not "fucked up" then I don't know what is. The aid money has been pledge to Haiti by multiple countries, but somehow a year later it has not found it's way to the people who actually need it.
And you don't have to tell me about PBS. I am one of those folks who believes that NPR should in no way be funded by the taxpayer. They are about as "Liberal" as one can get.
All of this was in response to previous post about Haitians being rounded up like cattle in the DR and being shipped back to "nothing" in Haiti. But as I said, it is no ones fault that Haiti is (for a better choice of words) still in dire straits, save for the people over there running the show. If you read any of my post you will also see that I am also fond of Haitian women.
SavePros.
Is there anywhere in the world that honest people go into politics? Haiti is hardly unique in that aspect. Combo, I know that you are new to the ISG forum, but it would be REALLY nice if you would utilize the quote function to keep with the spirit of the discussion. All of your post are as if you started the topic and it is hard to follow where you are coming from. It's the same with your posts in the Medellin forum. Just hit the "Reply With Quote" link on the bottom right-hand corner of any post you are wanting to respond to.
Cunning Linguist
01-14-11, 12:51
That's fine. The point I was trying to make is that a year after the earthquake where people are still living in tent cities and squalor, if that is not "fucked up" then I don't know what is. The aid money has been pledge to Haiti by multiple countries, but somehow a year later it has not found it's way to the people who actually need it.
All of this was in response to previous post about Haitians being rounded up like cattle in the DR and being shipped back to "nothing" in Haiti. But as I said, it is no ones fault that Haiti is (for a better choice of words) still in dire straits, save for the people over there running the show. If you read any of my post you will also see that I am also fond of Haitian women.
Then we are in complete agreement. The bastards running the country are to blame. No doubt whatsoever about it. It is abundantly clear that Haitians are NOT in charge of their country. The Haitian Government, such as it was, was particularly hard struck by the 2010 quake. Many important officials were killed outright when their buildings collapsed on them. The tenuous, nearly invisible Haitian State lies in ruins as I write this. Even the Presidential Palace, the very symbol of the Haitian Government, totally destroyed, has not even been rebuilt. Indeed, work hasn't even begun on it. While there are some Haitian police, the real security lies with the UN forces. Nearly all of the money earmarked for Haiti moves through NGOs or Clinton's organization (ironically, Clinton arguably did far more harm to Haiti than Bush I or Bush II did, and that is saying a lot). For all the billions promised, precious little is getting through (admittedly, the cash-strapped but venal Haitian Port Authorities--the only real visible vestige of the Haitian State which is unable to collect taxes in a normal way-- are grasping for money by forcing the cash-rich NGOs to cough up money for much needed supplies but if the Americans, French, and Canadians put their foot down a bit, this would immediately disappear).
In any case, I never doubted that you didn't like Haitians.
In short, the Haitians are NOT in charge of their own country any more. Nearly all government functions are in UN, OAS, NGO or private hands (the only thing working right in Haiti are the phone companies, one of which is owned by the Communist Vietnamese Army, Viettel...... Oh, the irony!). In view of this, the ones to blame for the extreme suffering in Haiti today are precisely those in charge, the bastards who are really running the show in Haiti: the UN, OAS (and their sponsors: US government, Canada, and France) , as well as the often self-serving, squabbling, uncoordinated but well-funded NGOs (often evangelical cults poaching on the people in a Jesus-friendly jihad against the Vodou religion).
Note: Thanks Bq ribs for your comments. Ironically, some of the very best information I have found on the internet has come from ISG including insider information about the coup d'état in Thailand. The ISG is not only about intercourse and female anatomy and where to get it.
Ummmmm, can somebody tell me where I can find the Sosua thread?
I come to this site to get information about the topic that this blog is all about. I am going through pages of unrelated information.
Whoever wants to discuss world politics and corruption in Haiti please go to another blog.
Member #4351
01-14-11, 14:43
Yes Jackson, maybe all these posts should be moved to the Haiti thread.
But one final comment: IMHO Haiti was much better off with "Baby Doc" then with USA imposed "democracy". There is a stark contrast between the former (full of factories and with almost no crime or violence), and the latter which speaks for itself. Haiti now appears to be the "feeding trough" for NGOs and foreign bureaucrats.
While your at it Jackson don't you think it is time for Blackbeard thread- I look on POP and see Blackbeard crap.
Nice software update!
I agree slippery. Also, When did a bunch of sex nuts mongers become humanitarians? Please take the tears for haiti to the offical thread and lets get back to mongering.
I'll be staying at the casa marina bay Resort on feburary 13 thru 16. I need intel. How far am I from all the action. What clubs other then classicos and blackbeared should I hit. Any numers you guys want to send me?
SavePros321
01-14-11, 15:28
Ummmmm, can somebody tell me where I can find the Sosua thread?
Yes Jackson, maybe all these posts should be moved to the Haiti thread.
Agreed. Let's return to our regularly scheduled program.
So, has anyone been to Sosua lately? I like the fact that Kman is posting multiple photos in the photo gallery, but they all (like the NG Bikini Contest photos) seem to be pre-crackdown.
BB's today! Things are damn good so far. I like BB's especailly after the cuture shock of my first night in sosua! I needed a minute to adjust to that insanity and BB's did just that. I love this place. I just had ST with two absolutely AMAZING chicas. A good while in the Jacuzzi time with BBBJ followed by some more ST in the room. Karen why Ana. I have pics, but honestly I am not sober enough to coordinate posting them. Later gentlemen. Later. I've made some delightful acquaintances here of folks who speak English. I think I made the best choice for an inexperienced international monger. I dipped my toes into Sosua last night.
Are you able to elaborate any further on your Sosua experience??
Yes Jackson, maybe all these posts should be moved to the Haiti thread.
But one final comment: IMHO Haiti was much better off with "Baby Doc" then with USA imposed "democracy". There is a stark contrast between the former (full of factories and with almost no crime or violence) , and the latter which speaks for itself. Haiti now appears to be the "feeding trough" for NGOs and foreign bureaucrats. The Road was better with Trujillo! The current President, Leonel, is a bad joke!
Cunning Linguist
01-14-11, 16:26
Yes Jackson, maybe all these posts should be moved to the Haiti thread.
But one final comment: IMHO Haiti was much better off with "Baby Doc" then with USA imposed "democracy". There is a stark contrast between the former (full of factories and with almost no crime or violence) , and the latter which speaks for itself. Haiti now appears to be the "feeding trough" for NGOs and foreign bureaucrats. I discovered the world of Haiti in Sosúa, believe it or not. That is where I started learning Creole (since I already know Spanish fluently). It looks like Sosúa is undergoing a sea change. Is it the case that Sosúa will be for "family-oriented" tourism and not for the mongerer? If there are no working girls milling around the bars or beaches during the day, where is the charm of Sosúa? On top of that, if the Haitian girls are gone, where is the fun, pizzaz?
I really like the New Garden Hotel but I could tell that there were barriers to Haitian girls coming in to hang out around the pool while it was OK for Dominicans. The Dominican girls saw to that. This is one reason why I just might not be going back to Sosúa. I love Herman's Siempre Sol and drinking Presidentes during the day at the beach but I suppose all good things come to an end.
My very last comments about Haiti on this thread, I promise!
As for David 33's comments, all I can say that Baby Doc, like his father, was a veritable disaster for Haiti. Although there was a functioning Haitian state in those days, it was a primitive state whose only virtue was that it was anti-Communist. The oppressive apparatus, personified by the bespectacled TonTon Macoutes (watch the old movie "The Comedians" with Richard Burton) , did nothing for the country except maintain the Duvalier family in power and ensure the US that leftwing types would never be in power. Sure, there were factories and there was a "peace of the cemetery", but thousands of victims of the state terrorism wrought by the Duvaliers could testify that it was not good for the people in general. Hell, one could say that Hitler did a lot to relieve Germany of her chronic unemployment but at what price?
Yes Jackson, maybe all these posts should be moved to the Haiti thread.
But one final comment: IMHO Haiti was much better off with "Baby Doc" then with USA imposed "democracy". There is a stark contrast between the former (full of factories and with almost no crime or violence) , and the latter which speaks for itself. Haiti now appears to be the "feeding trough" for NGOs and foreign bureaucrats. The R. D. Was better with Trujillo! The current President, Leonel, is a bad joke!
Member #4351
01-14-11, 18:19
Cunning Linguist, and now? And before the earthquake? I personally preferred the TonTon Macoutes to the NGOs. At least they didn`t fill up all the hotels and restaurants.
SavePros321
01-14-11, 20:48
I agree slippery. Also, When did a bunch of sex nuts mongers become humanitarians? Please take the tears for haiti to the offical thread and lets get back to mongering.
I'll be staying at the casa marina bay Resort on feburary 13 thru 16. I need intel. How far am I from all the action. What clubs other then classicos and blackbeared should I hit. Any numers you guys want to send me? I don't know of a club named "Blackbeared". I didn't know that there were black bears in DR to begin with. And what are "numers?"
And why would you book a hotel room without knowing how close or how far you would be from the action?
SavePros321
01-14-11, 23:01
From Sosua News, January 2, 2011:
According to the chairman Jorge López, of the Federacióand de Empleados Hoteleros, in Puerto Plata, Sosúa and Cabarete last year approximately 5000 hotel employees were laid off or send away for an unpaid holiday. At least this claimed the chairman in a show 'Todo incluido' which can be seen on local TV station Channel 10. Many former employees are now trying to make a living as motoconcho or itinerant vendor. But in those trades the competition is fierce. The recently introduced measures to help Sosúa, according to the chairman, don't help much either to attract more tourists to the hotels.
Source: El Faro
http://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=2449&article=1
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Sounds to me like they should have just left shit the way it was. Now, where are all those guys that claim monger dollars don't account for much?
Haitian migration controls.
After a year of almost open-door policy following the 2010 earthquake in Haiti, some controls are being imposed on illegal Haitian migration in the DR. The Army says that it is on the lookout for an estimated 1, 000 criminals who escaped from Haitian jails during the earthquake, who might be living in the DR.
Listin Diario reports that the first checks at bus stops and documents requests were carried out this week. The Police says the searches have produced about 100 known criminals who have been sent back to Haiti after their capture.
The DR-Haiti border is 354kms long. Corruption at the border and along the roads to Dominican cities from Haiti has enabled hundreds of thousands of Haitians to move to the DR.
Army chief, Major General Carlos Rivera Portes said that the operation seeks to reduce people smuggling, primarily to tourist areas in Bavaro and Punta Cana, where thousands of Haitians have moved in search of work in the tourism or construction sector. The high financial cost and pressures from labor contractors and foreign campaigners have kept repatriation down over the years.
El Caribe reports that the Ministry of the Armed Forces ordered the Army, the Joint Commands, the Border Security Corps (Cesfront) , and military intelligence agencies and the Police to increase efforts to seek information on the people smugglers.
These operations follow sanitary controls ordered by the Ministry of Public Health as it seeks to reduce the incidence of cholera in the DR. News reports have carried stories of pressure now being exercised by neighborhood groups that are concerned about the concentrations of Haitians living without sanitation.
SavePros321
01-14-11, 23:38
Haitian migration controls.Okay, I think I'm starting to get like everyone else in asking what does this have to do with Sosua? We appreciate all of your "Haitian updates" every other day, but is there anything you can tell us about what is currently going on in Sosua (other than less Haitians in the discos)?
Okay, I think I'm starting to get like everyone else in asking what does this have to do with Sosua? We appreciate all of your "Haitian updates" every other day, but is there anything you can tell us about what is currently going on in Sosua (other than less Haitians in the discos)?Politur are arresting Haitians all over the area. I know of 2 that were arrested on moto-conchos. Haitians are laying low-afraid to work. The Politur has started stealing money from the arrested chicas. Classico's is near 100% Dominicanas! The streets are pretty barren in the daytime. Having regulars is a great idea (My Plan B).
I'll be staying at the casa marina bay Resort on feburary 13 thru 16. I need intel. How far am I from all the action. What clubs other then classicos and blackbeared should I hit. Any numers you guys want to send me?Casa Marina Reef / Beach was once two separate hotels. They now share the same facilities, restaurants, beaches, pools etc. I always stayed on the reef side. The lobby for the reef side is across from a baseball field and that lobby is about 3 blocks from Classicos. The lobby for the beach side is further away from Classicos, probably by another 2-3 blocks.
If you booked through Orbitz, then probably they will try to put you on the beach side. I knew the reef side, so I would talk to the worker in the lobby and he would give me a room on the reef side.
As you know casa marina all inclusive is not chica friendly. They do sell day passes for around $40. Short term hotel near there is the Calypso. For around $25 per night you could probably rent a room at Rockys just to use for sex (hotel orchidee is next door to Rockys and probably has rooms for about $25 per night).
Sosua is a small town, everything is within walking distance. Passions Massage and CMP are two places with chicas. Passions has a webpage with photos.
Blackbeards is probably an hour from Sosua. Blackbeards is a medium sized hotel that has chicas come to hotel in two shifts, one shift of chicas arrives early in the day and leaves late afternoon and a second shift arrives and stays till evening. Nice hotel and grounds, the guests staying there pay a set price for short term and all night.
If you don't have a car and you want to visit blackbeards you could take a taxi (expensive) or Dominican public transportation, gua guas (small buses) or carro publicos (shared 1980 toyota corollas or similar type cars).
In Puerto Plata City there is Crystals, expensive strip show type place, price for take out over $100 US. Also El Bohen, another bar with chicas for take out.
If you want to try your luck with tourist chicas you could visit playa dorada complex (5 minutes from crystals) (about 30 minutes from Sosua). Playa Dorada complex has about 10 all inclusive hotels. Inside Playa Dorada complex there are a few bars where tourist chicas hang out at night.
SavePros321
01-15-11, 01:14
Politur are arresting Haitians all over the area. I know of 2 that were arrested on moto-conchos. Haitians are laying low-afraid to work. The Politur has started stealing money from the arrested chicas. Classico's is near 100% Dominicanas! The streets are pretty barren in the daytime. Having regulars is a great idea (My Plan B).That's a damn good start, and thanks, LOL.
Now, if we can just get someone to chime in about what's been going on at New Garden during the daytime (are there any chicas hanging around anymore?) then we'll be good to go!
Been in Sosua for two days, about my 7th trip or so. Scuba diving, as always, with Superior Dive shop at the Sosua Bay Hotel. Great wreck dives on the Zingara wreck and lionfish hunting on the reefs.
I stay at the Sosua Bay Beach Club (Mongering section of Sosua Bay Hotel) and it is a great place for $50 a night.
Daytime chicas are a bit scarce but they always were. And I'm diving till 1 pm anyway. I often set something up for a 1 pm meeting the night before. Evening still lots of chicas available at the usual places, just not spilling into the street. Have to admit not as many Haitianas but haven't seen any of these so called round ups. Could be going on, tho, I guess. Lots of police presence on the streets but they are not hassling anyone that I can see.
I'm still having a blast, as always. Pics to follow in a day or two.
I wouldn't hesitate to come down for mongering or whatever. Still a great deal for the money.
That's a damn good start, and thanks, LOL.
Now, if we can just get someone to chime in about what's been going on at New Garden during the daytime (are there any chicas hanging around anymore?) then we'll be good to go! I was just at New Garden and the same 4 chicas were there everyday from 9to5. Also Manizales your up and I'm looking fot your report.
Now, if we can just get someone to chime in about what's been going on at New Garden during the daytime (are there any chicas hanging around anymore?) then we'll be good to go!I will be there next weekend and staying at the New Garden; can report after I'm there. When I was making reservations in mid December, Wilfried assured me there were still plenty of women hanging out. However, I recently learned that Wilfried no longer works at the NG; WTH? Either way, I will be there Friday, which turns out to be a holiday of sort, and report back.
Marc Anthony
01-15-11, 06:37
Been in Sosua for two days, about my 7th trip or so. Scuba diving, as always, with Superior Dive shop at the Sosua Bay Hotel. Great wreck dives on the Zingara wreck and lionfish hunting on the reefs.
I stay at the Sosua Bay Beach Club (Mongering section of Sosua Bay Hotel) and it is a great place for $50 a night.
Daytime chicas are a bit scarce but they always were. And I'm diving till 1 pm anyway. I often set something up for a 1 pm meeting the night before. Evening still lots of chicas available at the usual places, just not spilling into the street. Have to admit not as many Haitianas but haven't seen any of these so called round ups. Could be going on, tho, I guess. Lots of police presence on the streets but they are not hassling anyone that I can see.
I'm still having a blast, as always. Pics to follow in a day or two.
I wouldn't hesitate to come down for mongering or whatever. Still a great deal for the money. Thanks for the update, I didn't know about the place. Their website says $65 before tax for garden rooms, where did you book?
SavePros321
01-15-11, 06:39
Too bad the Mayor of Sosua didn't consult with the Obama Administration before they implemented this crackdown. Pretty soon we'll all be sipping Cuba Libre's in Havana:
Obama to ease travel restrictions to Cuba, allow more USA cash to island
Read more:
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/01/14/2016622/obama-to-ease-travel-restrictions.html#ixzz1B4y6kki2
We're not completely there yet but it is only a matter of time. Plus Cuba is closer than the DR. Talk about bad timing, LOL!
SavePros321
01-15-11, 12:44
Been in Sosua for two days, about my 7th trip or so. Scuba diving, as always, with Superior Dive shop at the Sosua Bay Hotel. Great wreck dives on the Zingara wreck and lionfish hunting on the reefs.
I stay at the Sosua Bay Beach Club (Mongering section of Sosua Bay Hotel) and it is a great place for $50 a night.
Daytime chicas are a bit scarce but they always were. And I'm diving till 1 pm anyway. I often set something up for a 1 pm meeting the night before. Evening still lots of chicas available at the usual places, just not spilling into the street. Have to admit not as many Haitianas but haven't seen any of these so called round ups. Could be going on, tho, I guess. Lots of police presence on the streets but they are not hassling anyone that I can see.
I'm still having a blast, as always. Pics to follow in a day or two.
I wouldn't hesitate to come down for mongering or whatever. Still a great deal for the money. I would like to say thanks for this update as well. Not too many people take the time to stop in and report during their trip.
Been in Sosua for two days, about my 7th trip or so. Scuba diving, as always, with Superior Dive shop at the Sosua Bay Hotel. Great wreck dives on the Zingara wreck and lionfish hunting on the reefs.
I stay at the Sosua Bay Beach Club (Mongering section of Sosua Bay Hotel) and it is a great place for $50 a night.
Daytime chicas are a bit scarce but they always were. And I'm diving till 1 pm anyway. I often set something up for a 1 pm meeting the night before. Evening still lots of chicas available at the usual places, just not spilling into the street. Have to admit not as many Haitianas but haven't seen any of these so called round ups. Could be going on, tho, I guess. Lots of police presence on the streets but they are not hassling anyone that I can see.
I'm still having a blast, as always. Pics to follow in a day or two.
I wouldn't hesitate to come down for mongering or whatever. Still a great deal for the money. All those pretty girls up on Pedro Clisante, and you're going down on some old wreck out in Sosua Bay.
Just kidding. The Zingara was my first dive of my October vacation. I did pretty well and I enjoyed it, but I would have done better and enjoyed it more if it hadn't been my first dive since June. How is Superior, by the way? I dove with Elite Scuba; Kerrie is a great diver, a great guide, and a lot of fun to hang out with after the morning's dives. I'd heard that one of the shops there runs a real cattle-boat operation, and I hope it isn't Superior Dive.
The Sosua Bay Beach Club. Now that's convenient to the diving. I'll have to give it a try next trip, especially now with Wilifred out of the New Garden.
Cheers,
Westy
Just got back from Sosua.
Not too much to report.
Weather great, lots of sun, some cloud, cool nights, a little rain. Perfect time of year.
Stayed at home base Casa Marina as usual with novia, in "newly renovated" room, Ha ha.
32 inch flat screen TV, now with king size bed, but no proper linen as they use old double sheets and blanket which don't fit and you finish up in the am sleeping mostly on bare mattress. The old cracked tiles in room and bathroom not replaced, so the reno was definitely a quick once over. Same staff, same hearty welcome and a few special extras.
I was happy to see that the bars were still open to the street, but like others have reported, the chica parade in the afternoon and early evening has virtually disappeared. All I saw in the bars were a few hard core locals. Before there were pretty young things everywhere vying for your attention, and all you had to do was make eye contact. Now, I suppose you have to go hunting later in the clubs to find them, but I'm in bed by then, so it's a major loss to me.
Saw lots of mongers sitting around in the main bars looking bored and not once in a couple hours were they propositioned, except by aforesaid hard core locals.
Walked by New Garden two or three times a day and saw no chicas. No chicas hanging out at Casa Marina anymore, same at Rhumba.
Don't get me wrong, it's easy to get laid there, but now its a little more work, less choices for sure, and you need a game plan. I didn't see one chica I would rate above a 6, so while folks here are saying prices are down, I would think that because of lack of competion, prices are up for the beautiful young ones (if you can find one).
My afternoon chill bar at the beach parking lot is up for sale ($50, 000. He's crazy) and the crazy Ecuador / Canadian owner in cornrows has his local esposa installed as barrista, which means he fired my favorite Vanessa, so she hung around with us for a couple of days. She was happy to sit with us and drink coke forever, but it got boring as there was no real spark between her and my novia who seemed a little jealous so we had her move on and we got back to happy time again. So no threesome again, this trip.
A couple of days in Choromicas, a family day at Casa Marina for the kids, a day of shopping at Jimanez and La Serena in Puerto Plata, the bars every night, cold beer and lots of good sex in between is all it takes at my age to have a good time.
My buddy comes down with me in March and my novia already has a good selection lined up for him, but they will be coming in from out of town and are mostly none pros.
So, even tho I had a great time as usual, and love Sosua, I can honestly say, at least for the moment, its time for all click and point mongers to move on.
SavePros321
01-15-11, 17:21
Just got back from Sosua.
Not too much to report.
Weather great, lots of sun, some cloud, cool nights, a little rain. Perfect time of year.
I was happy to see that the bars were still open to the street, but like others have reported, the chica parade in the afternoon and early evening has virtually disappeared. All I saw in the bars were a few hard core locals. Before there were pretty young things everywhere vying for your attention, and all you had to do was make eye contact. Now, I suppose you have to go hunting later in the clubs to find them, but I'm in bed by then, so it's a major loss to me.
Saw lots of mongers sitting around in the main bars looking bored and not once in a couple hours were they propositioned, except by aforesaid hard core locals.
Walked by New Garden two or three times a day and saw no chicas. No chicas hanging out at Casa Marina anymore, same at Rhumba.
Don't get me wrong, it's easy to get laid there, but now its a little more work, less choices for sure, and you need a game plan. I didn't see one chica I would rate above a 6, so while folks here are saying prices are down, I would think that because of lack of competion, prices are up for the beautiful young ones (if you can find one).
My afternoon chill bar at the beach parking lot is up for sale ($50, 000. He's crazy) and the crazy Ecuador / Canadian owner in cornrows has his local esposa installed as barrista, which means he fired my favorite Vanessa, so she hung around with us for a couple of days. She was happy to sit with us and drink coke forever, but it got boring as there was no real spark between her and my novia who seemed a little jealous so we had her move on and we got back to happy time again. So no threesome again, this trip.
A couple of days in Choromicas, a family day at Casa Marina for the kids, a day of shopping at Jimanez and La Serena in Puerto Plata, the bars every night, cold beer and lots of good sex in between is all it takes at my age to have a good time.
My buddy comes down with me in March and my novia already has a good selection lined up for him, but they will be coming in from out of town and are mostly none pros.
So, even tho I had a great time as usual, and love Sosua, I can honestly say, at least for the moment, its time for all click and point mongers to move on. Thank you for an honest and sobering report Oakie. I must admit at first I was a little concerned about how you would report considering that you are always "wifed up" on your trips, but you seemed to have covered all of the bases and approached this from the "solo monger" point-of-view, knowing ahead of time the type of info would-be travelers are looking for, such as what is going on at NG and the quality of chicas around.
You have definitely given enough info for those sitting on the fence to make a decision about whether or not the New Sosua is a good fit for them. As for me, I'll pop in and out of this forum from time to time looking for signs of "life", but for the moment it ain't looking good.
"What happened to you man? Yo ass used to be beautiful!"
-Samuel Jackson (right before he finishes off John Travolta) in "Jackie Brown"
Sosua used to be beautiful. I don't think I'd recognize her anymore.
-SVP321
"What happened to you man? Yo ass used to be beautiful!"
-Samuel Jackson (right before he finishes off John Travolta) in "Jackie Brown"In "Jackie Brown," it's Robert DeNiro who's executed by Jackson, not Travolta. Travolta was in Tarantino's "Pulp Fiction."
-Helpmann :)
SavePros321
01-15-11, 18:21
In "Jackie Brown," it's Robert DeNiro who's executed by Jackson, not Travolta. Travolta was in Tarantino's "Pulp Fiction."
-Helpmann. Yep, my bad. How the hell did I get those two mixed up? And I've seen the movie at least 5 times already (seen Pulp Fiction at least 8).
Who's a Tarantino fan? :-)
And yes, it does matter, so please forgive me for insulting DeNiro. Both great actors though! And Sam Jackson got to work with both. Just in two completely different movies, lol.
SavePros321
01-16-11, 02:48
Hey FunintheSun63, I just tried to respond to your PM but your inbox is full. Let me know when you have cleared some space and I will send you what I had written as a response.
I must admit at first I was a little concerned about how you would report considering that you are always "wifed up" on your trips, but you seemed to have covered all of the bases and approached this from the "solo monger" point-of-view, knowing ahead of time the type of info would-be travelers are looking for, such as what is going on at NG and the quality of chicas around.-SVP321Didn't mean to sound so negative, SP.
For all you single guys out there, take heart. I'm just talkin street and open bar action. I was never actually inside New Garden, Classicos, La Passion or the new place next door.
For all I know, those places could be rockin, with wall to wall 10s after midnight, and I'll leave it to guys like you and Coolie High to provide that perspective. (Matter of fact, when I hop a motoconcho to the Scotiabank ATM, from the bar, I always holler out "La Passion", and they all have a good laugh).
Even tho as you say I'm "wifed up", I'm a monger at heart, so that's how I look at it. Matter of fact, hanging with my novia, makes all the connections I might need, for example there were three decent chicas we hung with (including the aforementioned Vanessa) I could have had for afternoon siesta if I had wanted to get into novella problema, not to mention the smiling chicas I met in and around Choramicos. I'll stay away from that trouble as long as I can.
Which reminds me. In Choramicos there were always lots of young smiling eye poppers walking around, now hardly any. Could it be that a lot the new young ones coming to Sosua from out of town would stay with extended family there (like my novia did) , while working Sosua?
At any rate, the disappearance of young hotties from both places seems to be connected, but one week is not enough to draw any real conclusions. Could be the time of year, weather, any number of reasons. Just something I noticed.
By the way, don't leave the board, SP, we need your posts (and I always figured to by you a beer in Sosua one day)
Kitie Carson
01-16-11, 20:32
Just got to Sosua this morning. Checked into Rockys. Andmade my way to NG to meet a friend and have some lunch. Probably 6 chicas around the pool. All ok none spectacular, in my view.
Went to eat at the Brittania. Good food, I had the Ham / cheese panini. Now just sitting around rockys watching game having a few drinks. Will TR later.
Just got to Sosua this morning. Checked into Rockys. Andmade my way to NG to meet a friend and have some lunch. Probably 6 chicas around the pool. All ok none spectacular, in my view.
Went to eat at the Brittania. Good food, I had the Ham / cheese panini. Now just sitting around rockys watching game having a few drinks. Will TR later. Sidney, Rocky's # 3.
John from NJ
01-16-11, 22:58
I dove with Elite Scuba; Kerrie is a great diver, a great guide, and a lot of fun to hang out with after the morning's dives. I'd heard that one of the shops there runs a real cattle-boat operation, and I hope it isn't Superior Dive.
The Sosua Bay Beach Club. Now that's convenient to the diving. I'll have to give it a try next trip, especially now with Wilifred out of the New Garden.
Cheers,
WestyNorthern Coast Diving on PC is a cattle boat operation. Dove with them for two days my first trip. Been using Elite Scuba ever since. Kerrie left for an extended European holiday and a visit to her home in England in Nov. Don't recall when she was scheduled to return. She turned the shop over to Brenda and her dive master (a cool Austrian, don't remember his name).
I just came back from Sosua. General situation to me was not so pleasant. As someone else said yet, in streets I didn't noticed many girls. Some was in bars in afternoon yet, but the big part of them to me appeared as ugly and with a really bored look, so I didn't feel the urge to enter there. At same time some man was there too, with a bored espression too and often not in touch with them. Gorgeous girls usually were with friends and seemed not in my opinion as interested to find customers, at last not in a clear way.
By night same story as in afternoon (except for the case that women's number increased) , in classico's, latino and merengue bar I still noticed a bigger part of ugly and bored girls when I gave a quick sight from the door. An annoying chulo / hustler approached me inside as I entered in a bar one night.
I was in La Passion and have enough of the place after two soapy massages sessions, not only because it's a little overpriced but also because when customers are fews, chicas make pressure on you to accept the "two girls service" which personally I don't like.
So I suppose this place may be ok for people who know yet several girls and can arrange dates during the day, not really good maybe for people who come there for first time (as me).
R you from Chicago?But I lived there for 25 years. Left in 1996.
Manizales911
01-17-11, 17:07
Hey Guys,
I'm not much for trip reports because for the most part it's all been said before and I personally have the worst memory on the planet, haha. But due to the recent unintentional but misleading reporting (in my opinion) on the impending demise of "Our Sosua" I decided to take notes every day as best I could and report back to my fellow mongering brethren another side to the story.
First, I want to say that I do not mean to disrespect some of the members here that have written to say that Sosua is dead and have advised members to seek other venues but I think that is doing the membership a disservice to say the least and in my opinion bullshit. Yes, Sosua is morphing into a slightly different place but that is no reason to discourage people especially newbies not to come. If too many people are in fact discouraged to come and partake in our hobby then yes,"Our Sosua" will in fact die, but as of this writing Sosua is alive and well, just different. Yes there are less girls but if a guy can't find what he wants in a girl here in abundance still there is something wrong with him and he should find a different hobby. For the guys that have been coming here for awhile and remember the days of hundreds of girls all over the place then I guess it can be disappointing at first blush but one has to remember you only have one dick and in my opinion I just don't see what the difference is between 50 girls and 200 girls, I mean see'mon now how many girls does one need to look at to find one that meets one's criteria for crying out loud? I have been coming to the north shore of the DR for awhile now and have made at least 20 trips here and for me personally I hated going to Classico's and being molested to the point where girls wouldn't take no for an answer and the shoulder to shoulder crowded atmosphere of some of the bars. Outside of southeast Asia, Sosua still has one of the largest concentrations of working girls within a short walking distance of anywhere that I know of even at the reduced chica numbers.
I am staying at New Garden for my first time. Much has been written on this place over the years, I will give a quick take on it. I like the place, it is close to the action yet very quiet, I expected quite the opposite. There have been anywhere from 5 to 20 "pool girls" here every day, I have seen five ex Blackbeards girls here, Josey, Pamela, Dorca, and two whose names I can not remember. I did Josey back in her BB's days for one short romp about three years ago and whenever I see her she remembers my name I can't believe it. I haven't taken any girls here back to my room and probably won't as there are too many other girls around town. The food has been good and the rooms are nice, everything else that one needs to know about this place has been said on this board a thousand times so enough of that.
Most guys on this board use the scene at Classico's as a barometer of how things are going in Sosua. This is no longer a good way to judge the scene down here because many of the girls are moving around from place to place. I am not a late night guy and Classico's is a late night place so I can not report what it was like in there late at night and as I mentioned before I never liked it there in the first place.
My first two nights I went to El Flow. I like it there because it is mostly locals that hang there and party, not a lot of gringos and that is my preference. The music is extremely loud in El Flow because that is the way the locals like it, I don't like loud music but I tolerate it because if you want to imbibe yourself with the locals whether it is in their homes, barrios or in their clubs you have to get used to it. Girls were coming and going all night long and I pulled two absolute stunners out of there both nights. They had some kind of special going on there, a bucket of three Presidente Grandes on ice for 180 pesos and I got good and drunk on the cheap. Now keep in mind that I stayed there a good long time drinking and waiting for the right girl to come by. It is one of the only bars left where you can sit at a table outside on the sidewalk and check out what is walking by and what enters the bar and that is what I did. In the past the bar and the sidewalk would be packed with girls but now the girls are on the move but still plenty of girls coming and going just not in the numbers as before. I don't see the big deal with this and in fact I like it because I am not being harassed by any girls, just chillin' and drinking and waiting to pull the trigger when I see what I want, what the fuck is wrong with that?
Saturday was the bikini contest at New Garden. $20. US for guys which included free BBQ and all the cubre libres you could drink, I expected them to pour some shit rum but they were in fact pouring Brugal so it was a good deal for me as I like a good cubre libre the problem is a lot of bars pour garbage rum but not here. There were only four girls that entered the contest but there were at least 50 girls that showed up for the contest and I had a blast and grabbed a gorgeous Haitiana and we went up to my room, this girl was off the hook, all holes, BBBJCIMWS, you name it she did it, she wore me the fuck out. Yeah, Sosua is dead, WTF.
Sunday was the NFL playoffs so around noon I walked around scouting out where the best place to watch the games would be. I decided on Rumba bar, an excellent choice. They have 4 or 5 50" flat screens in the bar and they had set up a HUGE projection screen outside it had to be 12 feet across. During the Seattle-Green Bay game the place was dead but I knew things would pick up and by the time the Patriots-Jets game came on the place was rockin'. I hung with a bunch of brothers from D. C. And had a real fun time. Girls were coming in and out of there by the shitload and it was my new friends last night here so they were looking to score. One of the guys had his eyes on a cute girl with huge tits and he decided she was more important than the game and off they went. One of his buddies couldn't stop busting on him for missing part of the game to get his dick wet when a girl walked up to the table to say Hello, and when I tell you she was one of the most beautiful girls I have ever seen in the DR I'm not joking, no makeup on just pure beauty. 19 years old with a near perfect body. Well I knew I had to have her but I wanted to watch the game so I asked her for her number but she said she was heading back to Santiago where she goes to school so I didn't bother. Well the guy that was hating on his friend for going with a girl during the game couldn't resist himself, grabbed her and they disappeared for the rest of the night, I can't say I blamed him one bit as she was hot, hot, hot, hahaha. Once again, plenty of girls to choose from in all sizes and colors, something for everyone. Sosua is dying, the sky is falling and whatever other bullshit you want to believe.
Food choices:
New Garden's food has been good.
The place next to Terre Linda, Steak and? Sucked for the money.
The Waterfront, high end place with the best ambiance excellent food and high prices, if for some crazy reason if you want to try and impress a girl bring her here. Personally I didn't come here to impress anyone and ambiance doesn't mean shit to me here.
The best food, largest menu with fair prices is Brittania Club, just a short walk down Pedro Clisante. I have eaten here every day and it has been awesome.
I am scheduled to leave here tomorrow and head to BB's for 5 days but I just might cancel my reservation there and hang in Sosua for the remainder of my trip because well, it sucks here now.
As always all of this is just my opinion and YMMV.
Is there anyone on this board that has leadership of a church or could establish a "church" for us mongers to travel under? Hahaha! I'm partially kidding, but mostly seriousl!
Rodeo
Too bad the Mayor of Sosua didn't consult with the Obama Administration before they implemented this crackdown. Pretty soon we'll all be sipping Cuba Libre's in Havana:
Obama to ease travel restrictions to Cuba, allow more USA cash to island
Read more:
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/01/14/2016622/obama-to-ease-travel-restrictions.html#ixzz1B4y6kki2
We're not completely there yet but it is only a matter of time. Plus Cuba is closer than the DR. Talk about bad timing, LOL!
Hey Guys,
I'm not much for trip reports because for the most part it's all been said before and I personally have the worst memory on the planet, haha. But due to the recent unintentional but misleading reporting (in my opinion) on the impending demise of "Our Sosua" I decided to take notes every day as best I could and report back to my fellow mongering brethren another side to the story.
First, I want to say that I do not mean to disrespect some of the members here that have written to say that Sosua is dead and have advised members to seek other venues but I think that is doing the membership a disservice to say the least and in my opinion bullshit. Yes, Sosua is morphing into a slightly different place but that is no reason to discourage people especially newbies not to come. If too many people are in fact discouraged to come and partake in our hobby then yes,"Our Sosua" will in fact die, but as of this writing Sosua is alive and well, just different. Yes there are less girls but if a guy can't find what he wants in a girl here in abundance still there is something wrong with him and he should find a different hobby. For the guys that have been coming here for awhile and remember the days of hundreds of girls all over the place then I guess it can be disappointing at first blush but one has to remember you only have one dick and in my opinion I just don't see what the difference is between 50 girls and 200 girls, I mean see'mon now how many girls does one need to look at to find one that meets one's criteria for crying out loud? I have been coming to the north shore of the DR for awhile now and have made at least 20 trips here and for me personally I hated going to Classico's and being molested to the point where girls wouldn't take no for an answer and the shoulder to shoulder crowded atmosphere of some of the bars. Outside of southeast Asia, Sosua still has one of the largest concentrations of working girls within a short walking distance of anywhere that I know of even at the reduced chica numbers.
I am staying at New Garden for my first time. Much has been written on this place over the years, I will give a quick take on it. I like the place, it is close to the action yet very quiet, I expected quite the opposite. There have been anywhere from 5 to 20 "pool girls" here every day, I have seen five ex Blackbeards girls here, Josey, Pamela, Dorca, and two whose names I can not remember. I did Josey back in her BB's days for one short romp about three years ago and whenever I see her she remembers my name I can't believe it. I haven't taken any girls here back to my room and probably won't as there are too many other girls around town. The food has been good and the rooms are nice, everything else that one needs to know about this place has been said on this board a thousand times so enough of that.
Most guys on this board use the scene at Classico's as a barometer of how things are going in Sosua. This is no longer a good way to judge the scene down here because many of the girls are moving around from place to place. I am not a late night guy and Classico's is a late night place so I can not report what it was like in there late at night and as I mentioned before I never liked it there in the first place.
My first two nights I went to El Flow. I like it there because it is mostly locals that hang there and party, not a lot of gringos and that is my preference. The music is extremely loud in El Flow because that is the way the locals like it, I don't like loud music but I tolerate it because if you want to imbibe yourself with the locals whether it is in their homes, barrios or in their clubs you have to get used to it. Girls were coming and going all night long and I pulled two absolute stunners out of there both nights. They had some kind of special going on there, a bucket of three Presidente Grandes on ice for 180 pesos and I got good and drunk on the cheap. Now keep in mind that I stayed there a good long time drinking and waiting for the right girl to come by. It is one of the only bars left where you can sit at a table outside on the sidewalk and check out what is walking by and what enters the bar and that is what I did. In the past the bar and the sidewalk would be packed with girls but now the girls are on the move but still plenty of girls coming and going just not in the numbers as before. I don't see the big deal with this and in fact I like it because I am not being harassed by any girls, just chillin' and drinking and waiting to pull the trigger when I see what I want, what the fuck is wrong with that?
Saturday was the bikini contest at New Garden. $20. US for guys which included free BBQ and all the cubre libres you could drink, I expected them to pour some shit rum but they were in fact pouring Brugal so it was a good deal for me as I like a good cubre libre the problem is a lot of bars pour garbage rum but not here. There were only four girls that entered the contest but there were at least 50 girls that showed up for the contest and I had a blast and grabbed a gorgeous Haitiana and we went up to my room, this girl was off the hook, all holes, BBBJCIMWS, you name it she did it, she wore me the fuck out. Yeah, Sosua is dead, WTF.
Sunday was the NFL playoffs so around noon I walked around scouting out where the best place to watch the games would be. I decided on Rumba bar, an excellent choice. They have 4 or 5 50" flat screens in the bar and they had set up a HUGE projection screen outside it had to be 12 feet across. During the Seattle-Green Bay game the place was dead but I knew things would pick up and by the time the Patriots-Jets game came on the place was rockin'. I hung with a bunch of brothers from D. C. And had a real fun time. Girls were coming in and out of there by the shitload and it was my new friends last night here so they were looking to score. One of the guys had his eyes on a cute girl with huge tits and he decided she was more important than the game and off they went. One of his buddies couldn't stop busting on him for missing part of the game to get his dick wet when a girl walked up to the table to say Hello, and when I tell you she was one of the most beautiful girls I have ever seen in the DR I'm not joking, no makeup on just pure beauty. 19 years old with a near perfect body. Well I knew I had to have her but I wanted to watch the game so I asked her for her number but she said she was heading back to Santiago where she goes to school so I didn't bother. Well the guy that was hating on his friend for going with a girl during the game couldn't resist himself, grabbed her and they disappeared for the rest of the night, I can't say I blamed him one bit as she was hot, hot, hot, hahaha. Once again, plenty of girls to choose from in all sizes and colors, something for everyone. Sosua is dying, the sky is falling and whatever other bullshit you want to believe.
Food choices:
New Garden's food has been good.
The place next to Terre Linda, Steak and? Sucked for the money.
The Waterfront, high end place with the best ambiance excellent food and high prices, if for some crazy reason if you want to try and impress a girl bring her here. Personally I didn't come here to impress anyone and ambiance doesn't mean shit to me here.
The best food, largest menu with fair prices is Brittania Club, just a short walk down Pedro Clisante. I have eaten here every day and it has been awesome.
I am scheduled to leave here tomorrow and head to BB's for 5 days but I just might cancel my reservation there and hang in Sosua for the remainder of my trip because well, it sucks here now.
As always all of this is just my opinion and YMMV.Good report Mani thanks. Sosuas slower pace seems to suit you well. Maybe thats the point in all this. Sosua is toned down but it still has value.
SavePros321
01-17-11, 18:05
Hey Guys,
I'm not much for trip reports because for the most part it's all been said before and I personally have the worst memory on the planet, haha. But due to the recent unintentional but misleading reporting (in my opinion) on the impending demise of "Our Sosua" I decided to take notes every day as best I could and report back to my fellow mongering brethren another side to the story.
First, I want to say that I do not mean to disrespect some of the members here that have written to say that Sosua is dead and have advised members to seek other venues but I think that is doing the membership a disservice to say the least and in my opinion bullshit. Yes, Sosua is morphing into a slightly different place but that is no reason to discourage people especially newbies not to come. If too many people are in fact discouraged to come and partake in our hobby then yes,"Our Sosua" will in fact die, but as of this writing Sosua is alive and well, just different. Yes there are less girls but if a guy can't find what he wants in a girl here in abundance still there is something wrong with him and he should find a different hobby. For the guys that have been coming here for awhile and remember the days of hundreds of girls all over the place then I guess it can be disappointing at first blush but one has to remember you only have one dick and in my opinion I just don't see what the difference is between 50 girls and 200 girls, I mean see'mon now how many girls does one need to look at to find one that meets one's criteria for crying out loud? I have been coming to the north shore of the DR for awhile now and have made at least 20 trips here and for me personally I hated going to Classico's and being molested to the point where girls wouldn't take no for an answer and the shoulder to shoulder crowded atmosphere of some of the bars. Outside of southeast Asia, Sosua still has one of the largest concentrations of working girls within a short walking distance of anywhere that I know of even at the reduced chica numbers.
I am staying at New Garden for my first time. Much has been written on this place over the years, I will give a quick take on it. I like the place, it is close to the action yet very quiet, I expected quite the opposite. There have been anywhere from 5 to 20 "pool girls" here every day, I have seen five ex Blackbeards girls here, Josey, Pamela, Dorca, and two whose names I can not remember. I did Josey back in her BB's days for one short romp about three years ago and whenever I see her she remembers my name I can't believe it. I haven't taken any girls here back to my room and probably won't as there are too many other girls around town. The food has been good and the rooms are nice, everything else that one needs to know about this place has been said on this board a thousand times so enough of that.
Most guys on this board use the scene at Classico's as a barometer of how things are going in Sosua. This is no longer a good way to judge the scene down here because many of the girls are moving around from place to place. I am not a late night guy and Classico's is a late night place so I can not report what it was like in there late at night and as I mentioned before I never liked it there in the first place.
My first two nights I went to El Flow. I like it there because it is mostly locals that hang there and party, not a lot of gringos and that is my preference. The music is extremely loud in El Flow because that is the way the locals like it, I don't like loud music but I tolerate it because if you want to imbibe yourself with the locals whether it is in their homes, barrios or in their clubs you have to get used to it. Girls were coming and going all night long and I pulled two absolute stunners out of there both nights. They had some kind of special going on there, a bucket of three Presidente Grandes on ice for 180 pesos and I got good and drunk on the cheap. Now keep in mind that I stayed there a good long time drinking and waiting for the right girl to come by. It is one of the only bars left where you can sit at a table outside on the sidewalk and check out what is walking by and what enters the bar and that is what I did. In the past the bar and the sidewalk would be packed with girls but now the girls are on the move but still plenty of girls coming and going just not in the numbers as before. I don't see the big deal with this and in fact I like it because I am not being harassed by any girls, just chillin' and drinking and waiting to pull the trigger when I see what I want, what the fuck is wrong with that?
Saturday was the bikini contest at New Garden. $20. US for guys which included free BBQ and all the cubre libres you could drink, I expected them to pour some shit rum but they were in fact pouring Brugal so it was a good deal for me as I like a good cubre libre the problem is a lot of bars pour garbage rum but not here. There were only four girls that entered the contest but there were at least 50 girls that showed up for the contest and I had a blast and grabbed a gorgeous Haitiana and we went up to my room, this girl was off the hook, all holes, BBBJCIMWS, you name it she did it, she wore me the fuck out. Yeah, Sosua is dead, WTF.
Sunday was the NFL playoffs so around noon I walked around scouting out where the best place to watch the games would be. I decided on Rumba bar, an excellent choice. They have 4 or 5 50" flat screens in the bar and they had set up a HUGE projection screen outside it had to be 12 feet across. During the Seattle-Green Bay game the place was dead but I knew things would pick up and by the time the Patriots-Jets game came on the place was rockin'. I hung with a bunch of brothers from D. C. And had a real fun time. Girls were coming in and out of there by the shitload and it was my new friends last night here so they were looking to score. One of the guys had his eyes on a cute girl with huge tits and he decided she was more important than the game and off they went. One of his buddies couldn't stop busting on him for missing part of the game to get his dick wet when a girl walked up to the table to say Hello, and when I tell you she was one of the most beautiful girls I have ever seen in the DR I'm not joking, no makeup on just pure beauty. 19 years old with a near perfect body. Well I knew I had to have her but I wanted to watch the game so I asked her for her number but she said she was heading back to Santiago where she goes to school so I didn't bother. Well the guy that was hating on his friend for going with a girl during the game couldn't resist himself, grabbed her and they disappeared for the rest of the night, I can't say I blamed him one bit as she was hot, hot, hot, hahaha. Once again, plenty of girls to choose from in all sizes and colors, something for everyone. Sosua is dying, the sky is falling and whatever other bullshit you want to believe.
Food choices:
New Garden's food has been good.
The place next to Terre Linda, Steak and? Sucked for the money.
The Waterfront, high end place with the best ambiance excellent food and high prices, if for some crazy reason if you want to try and impress a girl bring her here. Personally I didn't come here to impress anyone and ambiance doesn't mean shit to me here.
The best food, largest menu with fair prices is Brittania Club, just a short walk down Pedro Clisante. I have eaten here every day and it has been awesome.
I am scheduled to leave here tomorrow and head to BB's for 5 days but I just might cancel my reservation there and hang in Sosua for the remainder of my trip because well, it sucks here now.
As always all of this is just my opinion and YMMV. I don't want to steal his thunder, but to all the newbies out there Manizales911's word is as good as gold. We are only into the 3rd week of January, so it is possible that the previous "bad" reports were around a time frame in where nothing was really going on in Sosua. Hopefully as we get closer towards March we will see the same type of reports such as this one coming out. I might have to go ahead and do some "on the ground" investigative journalism in the coming months myself.
Stay tuned.
Thanks Manizales!
Hi guys, I am coming to the DR for about 3 weeks for the first time in 10 years on 31st January, and the last time was only for a week in Santo Domingo. So I am just about a DR novice. After a lot of trouble finding some reasonably priced tickets there from Europe, I have finally booked my flight out, but not yet my return, still checking prices and dates. Do you have to have a return flight in order to be allowed in the country, do they check for this at the airport?
I have been trawling through pages upon pages of the ISG in order to inform myself, but I still need to ask some questions as the DR threads are pretty overwhelming and go on forever. I am still hesitating where to stay at first on the north coast, an all inclusive for a week to begin with? Maybe BB's or New Garden hotel? How does the quality / reliability / prices of the New Garden girls compare to those at BB's, and is it a nice place to stay / relatively hassle free. I read a posting here saying the girls there try to inflate prices more than those at BB's, is this generally the case?
As an alternative to getting taxi's everywhere, or buses, what about renting a motorbike from a local, any possibilities to do this, do the police stop / check foreigners a lot? I remember last time I was there, I asked some young guy on his bike at Boca Chica, and he seemed quite interested in the idea. Or what about cycling / renting a bike, or is that too dangerous on the roads there?
I sent a few e-mails to apartment rentals from vrbo, and had a reply from The Palms. Sousa Vacation rentals, does anybody know it? Is it chica friendly? Another hotel which looks fairly interesting is Sousa by the Sea, same questions go for that one please! I would not mind staying in a nice all inclusive for the first week, but I suppose all of those in general are not chica friendly, am I right? Any advice for this DR virtual novice would be greatly appreciated. Cheers for now.
Kitie Carson
01-17-11, 20:26
Hi guys, I am coming to the DR for about 3 weeks for the first time in 10 years on 31st January, and the last time was only for a week in Santo Domingo. So I am just about a DR novice. After a lot of trouble finding some reasonably priced tickets there from Europe, I have finally booked my flight out, but not yet my return, still checking prices and dates. Do you have to have a return flight in order to be allowed in the country, do they check for this at the airport?
I have been trawling through pages upon pages of the ISG in order to inform myself, but I still need to ask some questions as the DR threads are pretty overwhelming and go on forever. I am still hesitating where to stay at first on the north coast, an all inclusive for a week to begin with? Maybe BB's or New Garden hotel? How does the quality / reliability / prices of the New Garden girls compare to those at BB's, and is it a nice place to stay / relatively hassle free. I read a posting here saying the girls there try to inflate prices more than those at BB's, is this generally the case?
As an alternative to getting taxi's everywhere, or buses, what about renting a motorbike from a local, any possibilities to do this, do the police stop / check foreigners a lot? I remember last time I was there, I asked some young guy on his bike at Boca Chica, and he seemed quite interested in the idea. Or what about cycling / renting a bike, or is that too dangerous on the roads there?
I sent a few e-mails to apartment rentals from vrbo, and had a reply from The Palms. Sousa Vacation rentals, does anybody know it? Is it chica friendly? Another hotel which looks fairly interesting is Sousa by the Sea, same questions go for that one please! I would not mind staying in a nice all inclusive for the first week, but I suppose all of those in general are not chica friendly, am I right? Any advice for this DR virtual novice would be greatly appreciated. Cheers for now.BB's without a doubt! I just got to Sosua from BB's. Hung out at NG last 2 days and no question. BB or bus. Enjoy a few days there maybe 4-6 days. I overdid it at 9! I am now in Sosua and w / o A DOUBT the BB gals over NG gals. Only my opinion, I'm sure others have theirs. I am enjoying Sosua street scene though.
I'm not much for trip reports because for the most part it's all been said before and I personally have the worst memory on the planet, haha. But due to the recent unintentional but misleading reporting (in my opinion) on the impending demise of "Our Sosua" I decided to take notes every day as best I could and report back to my fellow mongering brethren another side to the story.
Once again, plenty of girls to choose from in all sizes and colors, something for everyone. Sosua is dying, the sky is falling and whatever other bullshit you want to believe. Thank you Manizales!
Your report sounds promising. I will be at the New Garden this Friday for 5 nights and looking forward to seeing the difference since I was there in November. I have some phone numbers from the last trip in case I need back-ups. Herman has a phone full of numbers as well. Anyone else there this weekend, the first 2-3 rounds are on me.
Hi guys, I am coming to the DR for about 3 weeks for the first time in 10 years on 31st January, and the last time was only for a week in Santo Domingo. So I am just about a DR novice. After a lot of trouble finding some reasonably priced tickets there from Europe, I have finally booked my flight out, but not yet my return, still checking prices and dates. Do you have to have a return flight in order to be allowed in the country, do they check for this at the airport?
I have been trawling through pages upon pages of the ISG in order to inform myself, but I still need to ask some questions as the DR threads are pretty overwhelming and go on forever. I am still hesitating where to stay at first on the north coast, an all inclusive for a week to begin with? Maybe BB's or New Garden hotel? How does the quality / reliability / prices of the New Garden girls compare to those at BB's, and is it a nice place to stay / relatively hassle free. I read a posting here saying the girls there try to inflate prices more than those at BB's, is this generally the case?
As an alternative to getting taxi's everywhere, or buses, what about renting a motorbike from a local, any possibilities to do this, do the police stop / check foreigners a lot? I remember last time I was there, I asked some young guy on his bike at Boca Chica, and he seemed quite interested in the idea. Or what about cycling / renting a bike, or is that too dangerous on the roads there?
I sent a few e-mails to apartment rentals from vrbo, and had a reply from The Palms. Sousa Vacation rentals, does anybody know it? Is it chica friendly? Another hotel which looks fairly interesting is Sousa by the Sea, same questions go for that one please! I would not mind staying in a nice all inclusive for the first week, but I suppose all of those in general are not chica friendly, am I right? Any advice for this DR virtual novice would be greatly appreciated. Cheers for now. The Palms Condominiums, I stayed at one trip and would never stay there again. Place seemed to be for the use and enjoyment of older Canadian who were with their younger Dominican boyfriends. I was told by the female Canadian property manager that I was forbidden to take Dominican chicas to the pool. I saw older Canadian women in the pool with their much younger Dominican boyfriends. I received a nasty handwritten note one morning in the Palms apartment that I had rented informing me that I made too much noise the night before and if there was any more noise they would throw me out with no refund of the money all ready paid. My wingman and I had sat on the terrace / balcony the night before at around 9pm with two Dominican chicas (some Dominican chicas talk loud and laugh loud) , there was no extreme noise and I was threatened with eviction, as such I would never stay at the Palms Condominium complex that is located past the Tradewinds Condominium complex.
Tradewinds is a nicer Condominium complex, the pool is much nicer and when I stayed at the Tradewinds no one ever broke my balls about anything. You might be able to reserve an apartment through Rockys for the Tradewinds. Tradewinds is not in the center of Sosua.
El Neptuno has nice apartments. Blue Bayou is nice; http://www.bluebayouatsosua.com/
I always rent a car. For me to rent a motor bike, I would have to worry about the bike getting stolen. There are places in Sosua that rent motorbikes. Roads are generally in good condition, driving at night on an unknown road, I would be extremely careful, I have read of missing manhole covers on the road between sosua and cabarete.
Entering the Dom Rep, the Dominican government does not check if you have a return ticket. As long as you are in DR spending your money the DR government is happy.
Blackbeards prices are set for short time and all night. Sosua chicas are freelancers and are therefore free to make their own prices. A hotter looking chica can usually get away with asking for more money. Sosua has Passions Massage and CMP, two places with chicas on site, with rooms on site. At Passions you can pay to take the chicas out, probably also at CMP. Passions has a webpage with photos and Blackbeards has a newsletter with photos.
Sosua by the Sea, cute hotel that is not chica friendly. Casa Marina is the cheapest all inclusive hotel in Sosua. If you wanted the comfort of an all inclusive for the beginning part of your trip you could stay at casa marina for a period of time and rent a second room to use for sex.
New Garden, Terra Linda, Residence D'Piero get good reviews, this site has about 47 different places to stay in and around Sosua: http://www.hotel-dominican-republic.net/liste.php?sub=&choix_ville=57001®ions=0&choix_type=0&etoiles=&client_prix_mini=mini&client_prix_maxi=maxi&devise=1&submit2=SEARCH
Kitie Carson
01-17-11, 22:09
Just got back from Belky's getting my 300 peso BJ. Relaxed now.
Walked around all day. Alot of gals out. I don't know the scene beforehand, but IMHO girls are still everywhere. Me and another BM walked around and found a different Suck shack along the side street of Belky's. A gal was sitting along sidewalk asking if we were interested in massages. We inquired and found out a BJ was indeed available.
Talked to a gal in a corner bar who yelled at me and said she would wait. Be it it was only 4pm.
May get back to Sosua sooner than later.
SavePros321
01-17-11, 22:43
Just got back from Belky's getting my 300 peso BJ. Relaxed now.
Walked around all day. Alot of gals out. I don't know the scene beforehand, but IMHO girls are still everywhere. Where was this where there was "Alot of gals out" and everywhere? Also, what time of day was it?
Kitie Carson
01-17-11, 22:55
Where was this where there was "Alot of gals out" and everywhere? Also, what time of day was it?Like I said, I don't know what Sosua was like before, So alot of gals out may not be as you know. Walking down strip, in side bars, suck shacks. Road to NG. This was between 11-4pm.
Manizales911
01-17-11, 23:08
Just got back from Belky's getting my 300 peso BJ. Relaxed now.
Walked around all day. Alot of gals out. I don't know the scene beforehand, but IMHO girls are still everywhere. Me and another BM walked around and found a different Suck shack along the side street of Belky's. A gal was sitting along sidewalk asking if we were interested in massages. We inquired and found out a BJ was indeed available.
Talked to a gal in a corner bar who yelled at me and said she would wait. Be it it was only 4pm.
May get back to Sosua sooner than later.Where the hell is Belky's? I want a 8 dollar blowjob.
As I started getting back to reading the forum in December, that was the idea that I had in the back of my head-that the "drought" was probably more due to the holiday season than other factors. I'm not on the ground, so I don't discount reports from those that are who report on arrests and other government crackdowns, but, I guess, knowing what I know about the DR, I am more optimistic than pessimistic about the future of our hobby in Sosua. Another question, which I also asked on the POP forum was, have girls migrated from Sosua to Puerto Plata in the wake of the crackdown in Sosua?
Manizales911's word is as good as gold. We are only into the 3rd week of January, so it is possible that the previous "bad" reports were around a time frame in where nothing was really going on in Sosua. Hopefully as we get closer towards March we will see the same type of reports such as this one coming out.
SavePros321
01-18-11, 06:53
Like I said, I don't know what Sosua was like before, So alot of gals out may not be as you know. Walking down strip, in side bars, suck shacks. Road to NG. This was between 11-4pm.True it wouldn't be like "before", but any number of girls walking around during the day (now) would be significant considering the rules were that any chicas walking around during the day unescorted would be locked up.
Can anyone else there on the ground confirm this (chicas out and about during daylight hours)?
True it wouldn't be like "before", but any number of girls walking around during the day (now) would be significant considering the rules were that any chicas walking around during the day unescorted would be locked up.
Can anyone else there on the ground confirm this (chicas out and about during daylight hours)? A fraction of the past.
Located in front of Shark Bar and Secrets. Avoid!
Located in front of Shark Bar and Secrets. Avoid!Stopping tourists? For what?
Manizales911
01-18-11, 22:03
Located in front of Shark Bar and Secrets. Avoid!Sidney,
I don't know what your motivation is in trying to scare off the members from coming to Sosua but I am calling BULLSHIT on this one. Yes, they are issuing tickets to tourists, tourists who are parking ILLEGALLY. This is a good thing as people park wherever they want sometimes and cause serious traffic problems in Sosua, the streets are to narrow to park on both sides of the street.
FYI. They are issuing tickets to both locals AND tourists equal handidly from what I saw, how the fuck would they know a tourists car from a locals car?
Where the hell is Belky's? I want a 8 dollar blowjob.Going out of New Garden hotel, turn to your right and walk to the crossroads. As you stand there with Casa Marina down the road to your right, look straight ahead and the woman waving at you from the other side of the street will be Belki or one of her assistant hairstylist and masseuses. Just cross the road, go straight for 20 meters, and they will rope you in. Belki is an older woman. You can fuck her if you want, or her assistants, or do whatever you want in the massage room. No great lookers here, but handy if you want a quickie at 8:00 a.m.
Stopping tourists? For what?When I was there last week the cops were set up on the corner of PC and Rosen.
I gather they were pulling over motorconcho guys with their passengers and issuing tickets for operating without a helmet. (and whatever else they could dream up, checking I'd etc.) Although the law seems to only be for the driver, there were some pretty pissed tourist couples, being escorted up the street to the paddy wagon for futher interrogation.
Also outside they police station near the Texaco, they were doing a roaring business stopping cars and motoconchos, seemingly at random. The station parking lot was like a cattle yard with all the sad faces lined up.
I felt a twinge of sorrow for them. Flashback to Nassau in the 80s. In those days the coastguard was routinely turning back boatloads of Haitian refugees, and I was walking over the bridge to Paradise Island. There was a 20 foot open boat with what seemed like 100 Hatians with only room to stand had tried to land during the night. The broken down boat was squalid, full of filthy garbage and meagre possessions, with only a pile of bananas for food.
Now Nassau must be 500 miles from Haiti, and the thought of the desperation these folks must feel to even attempt such a journey shook me profoundly.
As I walked by, a young bedraggled beauty holding on to a baby looked me straight in the eye, with a pleading I will never forget.
So, I could never disrespect a puta for doing what she has to do to get by.
Matter of fact, in some way, my novia is that young woman.
When I was there last week the cops were set up on the corner of PC and Rosen.
I gather they were pulling over motorconcho guys with their passengers and issuing tickets for operating without a helmet. (and whatever else they could dream up, checking I'd etc.) Although the law seems to only be for the driver, there were some pretty pissed tourist couples, being escorted up the street to the paddy wagon for futher interrogation.
This sounds like tourist harassment, God knows what they can cook up for you on top of helmet fine. I think you are suppose to carry your passport as a foreigner in DR, if I'm not mistaken (like some other countries). That could be even a bigger fine or even luck-up till you can produce it.
What a pain, do they just want to get rid of all tourists (not just mongers) with this kind of behaviour. I don't think even ex-pats (who supported police / puta crackdown) would like these kinds of hassle. RIP Soswer.
Manizales911
01-19-11, 21:50
This sounds like tourist harassment, God knows what they can cook up for you on top of helmet fine. I think you are suppose to carry your passport as a foreigner in DR, if I'm not mistaken (like some other countries). That could be even a bigger fine or even luck-up till you can produce it.
What a pain, do they just want to get rid of all tourists (not just mongers) with this kind of behaviour. I don't think even ex-pats (who supported police / puta crackdown) would like these kinds of hassle. RIP Soswer.I'm sorry but I'm calling "you don't know what you're talking about". I saw the cops, they are giving out tickets to people breaking the fucking law, tourists and locals alike. Illegal parking and not wearing a helmet on a moto or scooter, that's what I saw. They have no reason to run the tourists out of town for christsakes see'mon now, WTF. Think before you write.
Sidney,
I don't know what your motivation is in trying to scare off the members from coming to Sosua but I am calling BULLSHIT on this one. Yes, they are issuing tickets to tourists, tourists who are parking ILLEGALLY. This is a good thing as people park wherever they want sometimes and cause serious traffic problems in Sosua, the streets are to narrow to park on both sides of the street.
FYI. They are issuing tickets to both locals AND tourists equal handidly from what I saw, how the fuck would they know a tourists car from a locals car? The only motivation is to alert you and all others to avoid the area and not get a ticket.
I am trying to get a vibe of Sousa now and in the next months.
Lots of negative reports.
Should I be considering Costa Rica.
Any thoughts.
Coolie High
01-20-11, 03:32
I am trying to get a vibe of Sousa now and in the next months.
Lots of negative reports.
Should I be considering Costa Rica.
Any thoughtsHave you been reading what Manizales911 been reporting. Seriously pay the negative report no nevermind. Translation, get your ass down to Sosua and enjoy all that heavenly glory! Hell if doomsday come to sosua you still have BB and other places as well. Trust me you'll have a good time.
My count down to I'm back in the promise land: 172days. 4hours. 28mins and 19secs give or take a second or two
The only motivation is to alert you and all others to avoid the area and not get a ticket.Wear your seat belt, do not talk on your cell, carry your drivers license, have the proper documentation in your vehicle, stop at red lights. Its simple Sidney, abide by the laws of the country you are an illegal guest in and you do not need to avoid any streets in Sosua. Seems so simple to me but then you would not have anything negative to report on.
Sidney, you post on at least three different boards and on each one you are critisised for your negativity. Lighten up my friend.
Manizales911
01-20-11, 05:27
Wear your seat belt, do not talk on your cell, carry your drivers license, have the proper documentation in your vehicle, stop at red lights. Its simple Sidney, abide by the laws of the country you are an illegal guest in and you do not need to avoid any streets in Sosua. Seems so simple to me but then you would not have anything negative to report on.Exactly, I couldn't have said it better myself. I was all over this town for ten days guess what Sidney? NO TICKETS, just a very sore dick, hahaha.
Some people come here thinking because it is a third world country they can do what the fuck they want and in some aspects this is true but show the police a lack of respect and / or don't follow the rules and you can find yourself in a heap of trouble fast and I for one don't feel bad for these people.
MiamiHeatLuver
01-20-11, 06:51
"got shaken down though. police pulled me over on my scooter for not wearing my helmet, they were on pedro clisante and not on the main road above were they usually hang out. i tried everything."no speakey spanish, i know the police sergeant, i'm a tourist who has been coming down for 8 years", blah blah blah, the guy wouldn't budge he wanted to be greased no matter what. he threatened to confirep001e my moto. so while filling out the "official" paper work i asked him what was the process he said that i needed to go to some bank and wait in line and pay this shit then return to the police station with the paid receipt. i then told him "how about i just give it to you and you drop the money off" he said "ok" i gave him the money and the "official infraction" went into a rain puddle in the water and my 1000 pesos went into his pocket.
if they start hassling tourists as a norm over there to get greased for petty bullshit i will not be returning for this was my first run in with the law in 8 years. this practice will only hurt the tourism business in the end. you can't imagine how many poor motoconch drivers are so upset with the policia and transito there."
i was in sosua last september and the police was trying to shake me down for money. one of the chicas said i owed her money and called a street cop on me. i obviously refused to pay. the police eventually tried to make a false allegation against me. once we arrived to the hotel (which they tried to prevent) , their story unraveled. another individual, whom i happen to know, who was involved with the chica ended up paying 2000 pesos (which the police did not give to the chica but instead pocketed). i squeezed out of it and was surprised since this is the first time that i've had problems with the police (i've been going to the dr for many years!) later i talked to three of the security in and around the hotel and even they said that the police was wrong in harassing me. one was from a hotel across the street and he told the police on my behalf that the only thing i did was walk the streets, bothering noone.
another monger was staying at the europa and was driving towards cabarete. the police stopped him since they claim that he did not have a seat belt on. my friend was surprised given that he has never previously had problems driving in the dr. i explained to him that the police was looking for a handout. my friend did not have his driver's license so they confirep001ed his car until he could produce one. he returned to the europa and the owner diego said that the police was simply shaking him down and that he should give the police a copy (with diego's card from the europa! diego knows the commandant!) , not an original, driver's license (which the police sometimes will take and never give back!)
one of my friends explained to me that the new mayor has given police more freedom in dealing with tourists.
stopping someone for riding a motoconcho and not wearing a helmet is absurd. most of the time the locals do not bother wearing helmets scooting around (whether it is the law or not. just look around.). this is not the first time i've heard and know of the police doing this.
i know of several expatriates who live down there saying that many times they would see police along the side of the road. they stop to ask the police what happened and the cops were just stopping people and trying to get money. after a while the expatriates would see the police along the side of the road and the expatriates would simply drive by.
sometime last year the police arrested the young haitian worker from terra linda, for no apparent reason. the owner had to go and bail him out (while at the same time making a complaint to the former commandant, to see what action could be taken against the police). there have been an occasion or two where the police has tried to enter terra linda and the owner had to warn them about harassing their clients.
for the most part my last stay was peaceful and i only had problems with the police once but it did put a damper on my vacation. i still enjoyed it but one has to be careful. it is not just about breaking the laws and the police correcting you. it is also about dealing with corruption. i am guessing that this is common in 3rd world nations.
Vincelee76
01-20-11, 08:56
Hello anyone,
I am interested in going to Sousa for vacation. But, I don't know which city in DR it is in. Is there an international airport close by? Can anyone help me with this, I have heard many good bar with many girls in Sousa.
Please help. Thank you
Exactly, I couldn't have said it better myself. I was all over this town for ten days guess what Sidney? NO TICKETS, just a very sore dick, hahaha.
Some people come here thinking because it is a third world country they can do what the fuck they want and in some aspects this is true but show the police a lack of respect and / or don't follow the rules and you can find yourself in a heap of trouble fast and I for one don't feel bad for these people.Mani I will always respect you and consider you a friend. But I'm sure you remember the "old Sosua" and the free fall it was. Now the watered down Sosua is reality. But most streets including outside the NG are one way with cars parked on both sides. And I never have seen an accident even with half naked chicas walking the streets. I've even parked the wrong way on one way streets with no problems. The posts here now adays are about changes in Sosua and they are much needed. But where does it STOP. Is the next thing a dress code (no flip flops and tank tops at night) or how about DUI checks outside of El flow at 10pm? Pestering tourists about parking is just the Policia trying to make up for the lost revenue lost because there are no more girls to shakedown. It sounds like guys want to be fucking the same 10 chicas paying100usd. No GFE because the girls are limited. And having bullshit laws enforced that before were never enforced. Before it was no respect for the mongerer but now everyday tourist are harrassed? The corrupt ass Policia want to enforce PARKING and thats acceptable? I won't say thats BULLSHIT because I respect what your saying even though I don't agree that it right.
Rodney Pryce
01-20-11, 12:11
Was there pre-Christmas for 5 days and I got to say that place is heaven on earth. Was kinda scared first because of the negative reports I read regarding the crackdown.
Found nice chicks at NG, the beach, classicos and never paid more than 1000-1500p. A few times even nothing (and I don't even speak spanish).
Maybe it was better a few years ago but for any newbie like me it was already more than I could handle. I was so exausted after 5 days, I felt like I never needed sex again in my life.
Besides that I liked the beach, the food and the overall relaxing vibe of the town.
Definitely going to come back!
And thanks for all the previous reports, helped a lot.
I'm sorry but I'm calling "you don't know what you're talking about". I saw the cops, they are giving out tickets to people breaking the fucking law, tourists and locals alike. Illegal parking and not wearing a helmet on a moto or scooter, that's what I saw. They have no reason to run the tourists out of town for christsakes see'mon now, WTF. Think before you write.Hey guys, chill. Remember, this is not the PR Dept. Of the Chamber of Commerce for Sosua.
There's room here for ALL opinions, both positive AND negative.
For me personally, I love Sosua. I feel absolutely safe, comfortable and at home there. Never been ripped off by a hustler, chica or the cops, but I have met a couple of guys who have.
But if it happens on my 10th trip, esta la vida. I'll accept it as part of the tarrif, pay a few mil pesos and move on.
Basically if you follow the rules of the game, which have been posted here ad infinitum, you'll be OK.
Lock your shit in the room safe.
Obey the law.
Drink, but never get drunk with strangers.
Carry copy of your I'd. And if you're paranoid. 2 mil peso in your shoe.
If you get ripped off by a cop, a chica, or a bar tab, state your case quietly, make a deal and get outa there! You're not Mr Deeds who's going to right all the wrongs in a third world town in one week. Move on!
And NEVER try the rip off yourself, they do it better!
There's all kinds of mongers and all kinds of ways that they behave. I see some who are asking for trouble and before the week's out they usually get it.
The warnings are for these folks. Useful info for newbies.
For the rest of us "we don't need no f*ng warnings"
'cause we're in Chica Paradiso.
SavePros321
01-20-11, 16:38
Was there pre-Christmas for 5 days and I got to say that place is heaven on earth. Was kinda scared first because of the negative reports I read regarding the crackdown.
Found nice chicks at NG, the beach, classicos and never paid more than 1000-1500p. A few times even nothing (and I don't even speak spanish).
Maybe it was better a few years ago but for any newbie like me it was already more than I could handle. I was so exausted after 5 days, I felt like I never needed sex again in my life.
Besides that I liked the beach, the food and the overall relaxing vibe of the town.
Definitely going to come back!
And thanks for all the previous reports, helped a lot. Thanks for stopping by and reporting the good news! Looks like we've been getting a string of good reports coming in lately. Too bad they've only begun to arrive after I've decided I'm checking out two other countries this year. But for everyone else, carry on smartly!
Hey guys, chill. Remember, this is not the PR Dept. Of the Chamber of Commerce for Sosua.
There's room here for ALL opinions, both positive AND negative.
For me personally, I love Sosua. I feel absolutely safe, comfortable and at home there. Never been ripped off by a hustler, chica or the cops, but I have met a couple of guys who have.
But if it happens on my 10th trip, esta la vida. I'll accept it as part of the tarrif, pay a few mil pesos and move on.
Basically if you follow the rules of the game, which have been posted here ad infinitum, you'll be OK.
Lock your shit in the room safe.
Obey the law.
Drink, but never get drunk with strangers.
Carry copy of your I'd. And if you're paranoid. 2 mil peso in your shoe.
If you get ripped off by a cop, a chica, or a bar tab, state your case quietly, make a deal and get outa there! You're not Mr Deeds who's going to right all the wrongs in a third world town in one week. Move on!
And NEVER try the rip off yourself, they do it better!
There's all kinds of mongers and all kinds of ways that they behave. I see some who are asking for trouble and before the week's out they usually get it.
The warnings are for these folks. Useful info for newbies.
For the rest of us "we don't need no f*ng warnings"
'cause we're in Chica Paradiso. Thank you!
...I was so exausted after 5 days, I felt like I never needed sex again in my life.Slap yourself for even suggesting such a silly thing! Hahaha, great quote; glad you had fun.
Rodeo
I'm sorry but I'm calling "you don't know what you're talking about". I saw the cops, they are giving out tickets to people breaking the fucking law, tourists and locals alike. Illegal parking and not wearing a helmet on a moto or scooter, that's what I saw. They have no reason to run the tourists out of town for christsakes see'mon now, WTF. Think before you write.Well, you seem to completely missed the post and did not read the quote I included. I was just commenting on what Oakie wrote. I was NEVER there! Here it is for your attention again:
-=- Originally Posted by Oakie
When I was there last week the cops were set up on the corner of PC and Rosen.
I gather they were pulling over motorconcho guys with their passengers and issuing tickets for operating without a helmet. (and whatever else they could dream up, checking I'd etc.) Although the law seems to only be for the driver, there were some pretty pissed tourist couples, being escorted up the street to the paddy wagon for futher interrogation-=-
So cops ripping off tourists who are passengers on the back of motos is OK with you! Since when you saw motos offer helmet to their passengers, and when was the last time you saw a moto passenger wearing a helmet.
I guess from now on you don't get on the back of a moto without a helmet in Sosua! What a model citizen / tourist you are! Not sure if I want to visit a town full of such law-abiding guys like you.
And what's this about you banging the advertising drums for Sosua, if you have any financial interest there, I've got a piece of advice for you,"Get out now", before shit hit the fan.
................My count down to I'm back in the promise land: 172days. 4hours. 28mins and 19secs give or take a second or twoDamn, that's a long time to wait to read your trip report. I hope you have a great trip like you did the last time.
Manizales911
01-21-11, 01:56
Well, you seem to completely missed the post and did not read the quote I included. I was just commenting on what Oakie wrote. I was NEVER there! Here it is for your attention again:
-=- Originally Posted by Oakie
When I was there last week the cops were set up on the corner of PC and Rosen.
I gather they were pulling over motorconcho guys with their passengers and issuing tickets for operating without a helmet. (and whatever else they could dream up, checking I'd etc.) Although the law seems to only be for the driver, there were some pretty pissed tourist couples, being escorted up the street to the paddy wagon for futher interrogation-=-
So cops ripping off tourists who are passengers on the back of motos is OK with you! Since when you saw motos offer helmet to their passengers, and when was the last time you saw a moto passenger wearing a helmet.
I guess from now on you don't get on the back of a moto without a helmet in Sosua! What a model citizen / tourist you are! Not sure if I want to visit a town full of such law-abiding guys like you.
And what's this about you banging the advertising drums for Sosua, if you have any financial interest there, I've got a piece of advice for you,"Get out now", before shit hit the fan. Financial interest in Sosua? Hahaha, Hardly. I didn't retire at the ripe old age of 43 by being stupid.
Just got back from Sosua. 12-18 Jan 2011. Had a great time, as always, but I have to admit the scene is much quieter and less choices available than before. This is about my 7th or 8th trip there, so no newbie.
I stay at the Sosua Bay Beach Club (mongering section of Sosua Bay Hotel) and it was perfect, as always. $50 bucks a night, great facilities, free wifi in the lounge, free breakfast included, great security and very quiet and chica friendly. Perfect hotel.
Diving everyday with Superior Dive Shop located right in the hotel. GREAT dive shop, super staff, dive guides etc. I dive twice every morning on the wreck and the reefs. Great visibility on this trip. Nearly 100 ft every day. Get to shoot lionfish every day, too, which is a great sport! I highly recommend this place, especially if you want to just try it out or even get certified while you are in town. Great prices for diving and instruction.
Certainly less chicas in the various bars and the streets; evening spots don't fill up till after 10 pm; I tend to collect phone numbers and / or make play dates for the next day, since I'm not much of a late night mongering guy. Works better for me altho the girls are often late or occasionally no shows. Comes with the territory. Got a couple regulars I like to see and that helps with reliability.
I think the overall service from most of the chicas is average to poor. Lots of no kissing rules. I'm relatively good looking and am in great physical shape from working out so that isn't the problem; think that's just the way it is. Best service from me came from a slightly less attractive and hefty chica I met at Calypso hotel who really put her heart iinto the effort. One of the best BBBJs I've had in a long time. A diamond in the rough.
As depressed as things are, the chicas still start off asking 2000 RD which is a joke, but I usually get them down to 1500 RD, and insist on "dos veces" (two times) per hour, usually not a problem.
I tried La Passions one day just for fun, and it is a nice place, RD2500 for full service, but the service is as uninspired as any new chica on the street, so no bargain there.
Overall, a good trip, nice weather, great to be out of the freeezing snow packed midwest. Still the closest mongering spot for me, but Sosua doesn't hold a candle to Thailand (been there three times) or Rio (just from what I've read).
I'll be back!
Recent pics in the pics section
Coolie High
01-21-11, 02:54
Damn, that's a long time to wait to read your trip report. I hope you have a great trip like you did the last time.Yeah I know but I promise my trip report is going to be detail and fun to read like last time. This time I'm going to Haiti first and chill with Badbear and then make my way to DR. I'm going to hit the barrios and find me two sisters and a mother and daughter tag team. So until then I'm just stacking my chips and being cool.
Blk Big Bootyluv
01-21-11, 04:50
Priceless! Don't be one of those guys that has to argue you point or have to win all the time. Who needs the stress! Of course its not right to get fuck; but what are we do'and to the chicas? HMMMMMM?
Thank you!
Hey guys, chill. Remember, this is not the PR Dept. Of the Chamber of Commerce for Sosua.
There's room here for ALL opinions, both positive AND negative.
For me personally, I love Sosua. I feel absolutely safe, comfortable and at home there. Never been ripped off by a hustler, chica or the cops, but I have met a couple of guys who have.
But if it happens on my 10th trip, esta la vida. I'll accept it as part of the tarrif, pay a few mil pesos and move on.
Basically if you follow the rules of the game, which have been posted here ad infinitum, you'll be OK.
Lock your shit in the room safe.
Obey the law.
Drink, but never get drunk with strangers.
Carry copy of your I'd. And if you're paranoid. 2 mil peso in your shoe.
If you get ripped off by a cop, a chica, or a bar tab, state your case quietly, make a deal and get outa there! You're not Mr Deeds who's going to right all the wrongs in a third world town in one week. Move on!
And NEVER try the rip off yourself, they do it better!
There's all kinds of mongers and all kinds of ways that they behave. I see some who are asking for trouble and before the week's out they usually get it.
The warnings are for these folks. Useful info for newbies.
For the rest of us "we don't need no f*ng warnings"
'cause we're in Chica Paradiso.
Got this from another board's Sosua forum (thanks to wolf67 on that site) :
If there had still been needed a proof that the new mayor of Sosua has completely gone nuts, here it is:
The municipal administration is seriously discussing a plan to create a red light district ("Zona de Tolerancia") for Sosua. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy6z8i095Nw
Wolf67 says: "As you can see in the video, the plan is completely out of touch with reality. The new red light district is planned at some remote land, away from the Pedro Clisante street, which the ADSS and the mayor want to reserve for their different clientèle together with the beach.
May be the whole project is just some kind of distraction in order to silence the business owners who don't like the new changes in town and is not to be meant to become a reality at all. However the whole idea is the most stupid thing I have heard for a long time.
Sosua already had a red light district, which was from Classico to the Bar of Fat Hermann. What good is such an idiotic new project? This mayor really knows how to ruin the economy of a town."
Hey guys, chill. Remember, this is not the PR Dept. Of the Chamber of Commerce for Sosua.
There's room here for ALL opinions, both positive AND negative.
For me personally, I love Sosua. I feel absolutely safe, comfortable and at home there. Never been ripped off by a hustler, chica or the cops, but I have met a couple of guys who have.
But if it happens on my 10th trip, esta la vida. I'll accept it as part of the tarrif, pay a few mil pesos and move on.
Basically if you follow the rules of the game, which have been posted here ad infinitum, you'll be OK.
Lock your shit in the room safe.
Obey the law.
Drink, but never get drunk with strangers.
Carry copy of your I'd. And if you're paranoid. 2 mil peso in your shoe.
If you get ripped off by a cop, a chica, or a bar tab, state your case quietly, make a deal and get outa there! You're not Mr Deeds who's going to right all the wrongs in a third world town in one week. Move on!
And NEVER try the rip off yourself, they do it better!
There's all kinds of mongers and all kinds of ways that they behave. I see some who are asking for trouble and before the week's out they usually get it.
The warnings are for these folks. Useful info for newbies.
For the rest of us "we don't need no f*ng warnings"
'cause we're in Chica Paradiso. Like the idea of the 2 mil in your shoe, never know when you might be kidnapped!
Sunset Strip
01-22-11, 04:07
The lifestyle rate is true, but that price probably gets you the basic hotel accommodation, nothing fancy or close to VIP service. Meals cost $10 each they're not included. Their cheapest timeshare is somewhere around $18k, which they wrongly advertise that anyone you know can use it and receive the same services as the owner. The whole place is built around a caste system in which you are worth the color bracelet you wear. Some of the negative reviews in this link tell the real story:
http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g147290-d647825-r89914356-Lifestyle_Crown_Villas-Puerto_Plata_Dominican_Republic.html#CHECK_RATES_CONTUSA Today had an article on page 4D today, January 21, about the resort. $28 / night!
SS
PP,
Got this from another board's Sosua forum (thanks to wolf67 on that site) :
If there had still been needed a proof that the new mayor of Sosua has completely gone nuts, here it is:
The municipal administration is seriously discussing a plan to create a red light district ("Zona de Tolerancia") for Sosua.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy6z8i095Nw
Wolf67 says: "As you can see in the video, the plan is completely out of touch with reality. The new red light district is planned at some remote land, away from the Pedro Clisante street, which the ADSS and the mayor want to reserve for their different clientèle together with the beach.
May be the whole project is just some kind of distraction in order to silence the business owners who don't like the new changes in town and is not to be meant to become a reality at all. However the whole idea is the most stupid thing I have heard for a long time.
Sosua already had a red light district, which was from Classico to the Bar of Fat Hermann. What good is such an idiotic new project? This mayor really knows how to ruin the economy of a town."Whats funny is the 1970 studio 54 music instead of Spanish music. This tells me that production was probaly made by an American developer for American clientele. Maybe people realize that the free spending mongerers monies shouldn't be discarded.
SavePros321
01-22-11, 05:17
Got this from another board's Sosua forum (thanks to wolf67 on that site) :
If there had still been needed a proof that the new mayor of Sosua has completely gone nuts, here it is:
The municipal administration is seriously discussing a plan to create a red light district ("Zona de Tolerancia") for Sosua.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy6z8i095Nw
Wolf67 says: "As you can see in the video, the plan is completely out of touch with reality. The new red light district is planned at some remote land, away from the Pedro Clisante street, which the ADSS and the mayor want to reserve for their different clientèle together with the beach.
May be the whole project is just some kind of distraction in order to silence the business owners who don't like the new changes in town and is not to be meant to become a reality at all. However the whole idea is the most stupid thing I have heard for a long time.
Sosua already had a red light district, which was from Classico to the Bar of Fat Hermann. What good is such an idiotic new project? This mayor really knows how to ruin the economy of a town."Maybe she read my "Business Plan" post, LOL. I am on my iPhone so it would take me forever to find the link to my posting (if anyone wants to find it for me there are photos attached of chicas to that post. I posted it in December) but I suggested that if there was anyone with money or access to someone with money that they should set up a "Merengue / Classicos" on the outskirts of Sosua (between Sosua and Playa Dorada). In the beginning everyone speculated that the crackdown was due in part to developers wanting to turn Sosua into a family friendly beach town. I suggested that if someone was to take up my plan then it should be set up somewhere that would not even in the slightest lend itself to tourism (like having a beach). We could still use Sosua as home base as long as the hotels remained chica friendly. Plus, upon exiting the airport the "family friendly" crowd would be going one way (towards Sosua) and we would be going in the opposite direction towards out new hideout.
Incidentally, FOD folded before the crackdown, but I bet the place would be teaming with all sorts of business post-crackdown (but Manizales said the place is now closed to the public. Seems like some high rollers are occupying the place now) because I am positive that there are chicas who would rather make their money during the day rather than having to wait until after 10pm. And there are some that want to work from sun up to sun down, but the current climate in Sosua doesn't allow for that.
I have never been to Thailand, but if the Redlight district has worked there for so long (Soi Cowboy?) then she (the Mayor) may be on to something.
Okay, I guess I'll watch the video from your posting now, LOL.
Got this from another board's Sosua forum (thanks to wolf67 on that site) :
If there had still been needed a proof that the new mayor of Sosua has completely gone nuts, here it is:
The municipal administration is seriously discussing a plan to create a red light district ("Zona de Tolerancia") for Sosua.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy6z8i095Nw
Wolf67 says: "As you can see in the video, the plan is completely out of touch with reality. The new red light district is planned at some remote land, away from the Pedro Clisante street, which the ADSS and the mayor want to reserve for their different clientèle together with the beach.
May be the whole project is just some kind of distraction in order to silence the business owners who don't like the new changes in town and is not to be meant to become a reality at all. However the whole idea is the most stupid thing I have heard for a long time.
Sosua already had a red light district, which was from Classico to the Bar of Fat Hermann. What good is such an idiotic new project? This mayor really knows how to ruin the economy of a town."Country laws just don't regulate it!
I will still look for girls where ever I like, on the beach, in discos, bars etc.
In DR prostitution (the exchange of sex for money) is legal, but brothels are illegal; prostitution is not regulated.
Prostitution is legal, although there are some prohibitions against sex with minors, and it is illegal for a third party to derive financial gain from prostitution. However, the government usually did not enforce prostitution laws. Sex tourism existed throughout the country, particularly in Las Terrenas, Cabarete, Sosua, and Boca Chica. Human rights groups reported continuing prostitution in sugarcane work camps and areas outside the capital. NGOs conducted programs about prostitution and child sexual exploitation for hotel and industrial zone workers, male and female prostitutes, and other high-risk groups.
(http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2009/wha/136110.htm)
I.
Maybe she read my "Business Plan" post, LOL. I am on my iPhone so it would take me forever to find the link to my posting (if anyone wants to find it for me there are photos attached of chicas to that post. I posted it in December) but I suggested that if there was anyone with money or access to someone with money that they should set up a "Merengue / Classicos" on the outskirts of Sosua (between Sosua and Playa Dorada). In the beginning everyone speculated that the crackdown was due in part to developers wanting to turn Sosua into a family friendly beach town. I suggested that if someone was to take up my plan then it should be set up somewhere that would not even in the slightest lend itself to tourism (like having a beach). We could still use Sosua as home base as long as the hotels remained chica friendly. Plus, upon exiting the airport the "family friendly" crowd would be going one way (towards Sosua) and we would be going in the opposite direction towards out new hideout.
Incidentally, FOD folded before the crackdown, but I bet the place would be teaming with all sorts of business post-crackdown (but Manizales said the place is now closed to the public. Seems like some high rollers are occupying the place now) because I am positive that there are chicas who would rather make their money during the day rather than having to wait until after 10pm. And there are some that want to work from sun up to sun down, but the current climate in Sosua doesn't allow for that.
I have never been to Thailand, but if the Redlight district has worked there for so long (Soi Cowboy?) then she (the Mayor) may be on to something.
Okay, I guess I'll watch the video from your posting now, LOL.I hear ya. Its alot of open land near the airport. A compound with a couple hotels (a la NewGarden style) with a couple nightclubs in the compound and outdoor bars for daytime. And girls roaming freely.
This concept is in effect in Caracuo its called campos. The girls live there and its away from the tourist areas. Most latin countries like their sex hidden. Casas, massage parlors, strip clubs and campos. They say they like the trash out back. The old Sosua bucked this trend. But one thing that the old Sosua had was that it had so many free lance women that they would lock in for a "girl friend expirience" for a few days. In the new type of (fast sex) enviorment, GFE is usually discontinued.
Boca Chica is already set up for this. Close to the airport, secluded, and depressed land values. It also has a beach (if you want to call it that). But a "new sosua" in boca would depress pussy prices in SD and the city boys wouldn't like that.
Give the Lapela a once over. Copied and paste from DR1 credit goes to original poster!
"Move over Viagra, and Hello, lapela.
Funy when I used to go to NY the requests were to bring a bottle of rum, dulce de leche con coco or some other dominican product that is not sold in parts of USA. Now that I have given out a few samples of La pela to my friends (on my last trip) , seems like all the requests are for this same product. La pela is the generic version of cialis but more tougher (I think). This pill (20mg) , makes you feel like a 16 yr old boy for up to 5 days. Many women have compared their men to the energizer buddy.
I have gotten so much request to bring this pill that I hope I will not get busted in JFK customs for trafficking drugs without prescription. There is no prescription for these types of pills in Dom rep. I offered my cousin some viagra pill that were given to me by a friend, he turned them down, mind you, he was paying 10 dollars / pill in USA. Everyone wants la pela. I got a call last night from another friend who read my post about my NYC trip, he too wants a bunch of pills. Even my 67 yrs old uncle placed an order from england.
I hope the damn hoomies will pay me or at least take me out for dinner.
On my last trip, I used la pela as currency. Ex: it cost me 2 la pela pills to have me taken to airport (atl) from marrietta (50 mins drive). Then it cost me 4 la pelas for a buddy pass to atl from sti. I guess another few la pelas will be enough to take me to a nice portuguese restaurant to eat a healthy sized steak. I guess I don't even have to change pesos for dollars, I will simply take along a bunch of la pelas and spend a few good days in NYC and atlanta.
AZB"How long does 1 pill last
Until we get more hot trip reports from such as Coolie High, I thought I'd bore the mongers again with an update on the relationship I have with my novia. Anyone contemplating something similar might find it interesting, in light of the recent changes in Sosua.
Been two years now. 2 weeks in November and a week in January, next a week in March and I have to say it's working well.
First time down there, I flew in and checked out the scene (what a scene!) before I took a small hotel near the action. Now, because it's really convenient, I get a Nolitours Air and AI package at the Casa Marina and bring in the novia. It's a good base, a vacation for the novia, and still relatively cheap, even we do most of our drinking in town, or we go away for a few days to her family.
Here's the deal. She knows a lot of the people who work (legitimately) in Sosua and a lot of the chicas who come in from Choromicas where she has one branch of ther family. She's obviously been active in Sosua in the past, but she's very family oriented and now her prime interest is with her first bambino in the States, her daughter and Mama and brothers in SD. She tells me I come third after her kids.
I know the families well, and I know she's not hooking, doesn't have a Dominicano boyfriend, and only comes to Sosua to meet me, then goes back with the Bambina to SD. I send her money, but less than I spend on say, cigarettes, so I supplement her income from doing hair, nails and other odd jobs she finds. I gave her an old laptop and she was pestering me to get a webcam so we could chat live. Eventually I did and I check in once in a while, unnanounced, and its always the same, she's at home with her bambina watching TV, or cooking and stuff.
A big relief to know she's not being gangbanged by Coolie and Savepro etc, while I'm up here freezing my ass off.
The biggest expense involved by far is my frequent trips to the DR, but that's for me, and being semi-retired, I'd be travelling anyway.
Last year she tried to get a visa to come visit me, but it took a while and didn't get it until November, and we get bad weather up here then, so she's coming in May. She's had my ticket money in her bank for almost a year, so credit to her for that.
In an earlier post, I boasted I'd never been ripped off in the DR, but credit goes to her 'cause she's scout, negotiator, planner, translator, and 24/7 wife all in one.
In the Don Andres bar a guy was talking about visas and I was mildly interested. He produced documents and said he was making money because his cousin was a supervisor at the Consulate in SD. He said he could get a Visa to the States in 2 weeks for 5 mil pesos, guaranteed. Now she'd been trying for months, but with one shake of her head, she told him to get lost. I said,"But babe, we were only talking" She laughed.
On the way back to the hotel, here was VisaMan being taken away by the politur. True story, and the look she gave me was priceless.
So, bottom line, I never really trusted her cause I met her in Sosua, but in two years there's never been an issue. She seems very happy with the trade we make and has included me in her family, especially with the older folks and the males, so there's a real comfort level and a relaxed happy vibe, that I've never found before with my previous relationships. She enjoys our time together, and I have a hard time getting a free couple hours in the afternoon to sniff around, unless its with her brother.
So my advice is try it, you might like it! Keep to an affordable budget, enjoy it for what it is, trust, but verify, and always be willing to walk away cold turkey if ever there's an issue. Its important for the chica to know that.
Can't wait for March.
MiamiHeatLuver
01-23-11, 16:09
How long does 1 pill lastFor me? 1 pill lasts a good 24hrs with good wood coming fast after your first pop!
MiamiHeatLuver
01-23-11, 16:13
I know the families well, and I know she's not hooking, doesn't have a Dominicano boyfriend, and only comes to Sosua to meet me, then goes back with the Bambina to SD. I send her money, but less than I spend on say, cigarettes, so I supplement her income from doing hair, nails and other odd jobs she finds. I gave her an old laptop and she was pestering me to get a webcam so we could chat live. Eventually I did and I check in once in a while, unnanounced, and its always the same, she's at home with her bambina watching TV, or cooking and stuff.
In the Don Andres bar a guy was talking about visas and I was mildly interested. He produced documents and said he was making money because his cousin was a supervisor at the Consulate in SD. He said he could get a Visa to the States in 2 weeks for 5 mil pesos, guaranteed. Now she'd been trying for months, but with one shake of her head, she told him to get lost. I said,"But babe, we were only talking" She laughed.
On the way back to the hotel, here was VisaMan being taken away by the politur. True story, and the look she gave me was priceless.
So, bottom line, I never really trusted her cause I met her in Sosua, but in two years there's never been an issue. She seems very happy with the trade we make and has included me in her family, especially with the older folks and the males, so there's a real comfort level and a relaxed happy vibe, that I've never found before with my previous relationships. She enjoys our time together, and I have a hard time getting a free couple hours in the afternoon to sniff around, unless its with her brother.
So my advice is try it, you might like it! Keep to an affordable budget, enjoy it for what it is, trust, but verify, and always be willing to walk away cold turkey if ever there's an issue. Its important for the chica to know that.
Can't wait for March. Trying to take the Hoe out of a Sosua Girl? Is a monumental task, Good Luck Buddy! You're going to need it. I've never seen it done before but who knows maybe you will start a new trend of rehabbing Sosua putas?
Mr Enternational
01-23-11, 16:51
Here's the deal. She knows a lot of the people who work (legitimately) in Sosua and a lot of the chicas who come in from Choromicas where she has one branch of ther family. She's obviously been active in Sosua in the past, but she's very family oriented and now her prime interest is with her first bambino in the States, her daughter and Mama and brothers in SD. She tells me I come third after her kids.
I know the families well, and I know she's not hooking, doesn't have a Dominicano boyfriend, and only comes to Sosua to meet me, then goes back with the Bambina to SD. I send her money, but less than I spend on say, cigarettes, so I supplement her income from doing hair, nails and other odd jobs she finds. I gave her an old laptop and she was pestering me to get a webcam so we could chat live. Eventually I did and I check in once in a while, unnanounced, and its always the same, she's at home with her bambina watching TV, or cooking and stuff. I personally would have started out with a legit normal job having educated woman instead of going into the rehab / financial support business but if it is what works for you then I am all for it. Fair exchange is no robbery and there are different strokes for different folks. Thanks for your story. It was much better than the political debates!
SavePros321
01-23-11, 17:19
A big relief to know she's not being gangbanged by Coolie and Savepro etc, while I'm up here freezing my ass off.THAT'S FUCKED UP, LOL!
If anyone's chica ends up in my photo collection it is only because they were milling around Sosua. I'm too lazy to go hunting outside of ground zero, LOL.
And gangbangs are gay. If you are in a room with one chica and two other guys ass-naked and able to maintain an erection, you may have homo-tendencies.
But that's only my opinion, of course, LOL.
Pure and simple that things just simply have not caught up to you yet Oakie.
Maybe one or two guys might follow you along. But this is just leading the lambs to slaughter.
THAT'S FUCKED UP, LOL!
If anyone's chica ends up in my photo collection it is only because they were milling around Sosua. I'm too lazy to go hunting outside of ground zero, LOL.
And gangbangs are gay. If you are in a room with one chica and two other guys ass-naked and able to maintain an erection, you may have homo-tendencies.
But that's only my opinion, of course, LOL.ROTFLMAO. I'm with you on that one. I don't ever want to develope a comfort zone where having naked dudes with hard dicks around me is acceptable. Plus I'm to selfish to share pussy.
Oakie good luck but these Dominicanas are world class players. Her next move will be to say she wants a baby."Trust but verify"? Then you don't really trust which is good. I think your sending more money than you are willing to tell us here. She does nails, hair and other odd jobs but you don't think one of those smooth Dominicanos is banging her? If your not there full time she has a Dominican boyfreind, thats just the way it is. The visa thing worries me the most because if you sponsor her YOU ARE FINACIALLY RESPONSIBLE. Just enjoy it for what its worth, don't rush and expect the unexpected.
Coolie High
01-23-11, 18:41
A big relief to know she's not being gangbanged by Coolie and Savepro etc, while I'm up here freezing my ass off.Oakie,
LMFAO! Now that's funny! Hey all is fair in love in war. Better tell her to stay away from Sosua Cus if she's fine I'll crush it like a coke can. LOL! But with all seriousness that's good shit that things are working out with you and the honey bun. Tired of hearing sad endings or why it didn't work, blah, blah, blah! Keep doing your thing.
Now speaking of honeys here's an update on my girl Sade. Soo all last year she goes from regular talking to ooh can I send her money. I told her I'll give her money once I'm actually in DR. So you know what happens next. The emails became short, no more calling me her man / husband *blah, blah, blah.
Now mind you gents when it comes to the ladies I'm the Magic Johnson of pussy. I'll pass off a female so my boy can smash in a heart beat. Especially with broads in Sosua. Now a few months back a certain senior monger that's on here ask for the digits and I slid the number to him. Just told him don't let her know that I gave it to him.
And wouldn't you know it gents my boy called and she was ready to give him the panties faster then a fatman falling out of a chair. The fellow monger bluff on Sade or so he says but the important thing gents is to not get so attach that you can't see the relationship for what it is.
It's easy to fall for a women in DR and to be honest even after passing off Sade like musical chairs I still have a soft spot for her. You know why cus I know as soon as I touchdown in DR she's going to treat ol' Coolie like a king, fluff my pillows, massage my bunions, the whole nine for the duration of my trip, all for the price of paying her rent. Which comes to $300 dollars BTW.
God bless Sosua! Hell Walmart can't beat that price and service. I can't wait to get back to the promise land
For me? 1 pill lasts a good 24hrs with good wood coming fast after your first pop!If you drink alcohol beverages while taken the pill does it still have the same affects.
Sweeper239
01-23-11, 19:56
Thanks for posting that. I was away over the weekend and planned on putting that info up. As you can see in the USA Today story, they do incluyde all meals and drinks for $28 per night. If you want to upgrade to VIP so you can dine of steaks and Lobster go for it. It is a good deal.
USA Today had an article on page 4D today, January 21, about the resort. $28 / night!
SS
Trying to take the Hoe out of a Sosua Girl? Is a monumental task, Good Luck Buddy! You're going to need it. I've never seen it done before but who knows maybe you will start a new trend of rehabbing Sosua putas?You got it all wrong, friend.
I'm old enough to know that you can't change people. I'm old enough to know that trying, or hoping to change someone, is a sure road to hell. Been there. Had it done to me.
No, I want things to stay exactly the same, it gives me control, and waiting for her to fuck up has always been my exit strategy. I don't want to change nobody.
But, surely there's logic in a chicas mind if she decides to, like me, go into semi-retirement (she's turned 30) and find a guy who can supplement her lifestyle, without having to leave the kid with a babysitter, get on a 10 hour bus ride to Sosua, and compete with chicas nearly half her age, to sit around in bars and try to get some obnoxious tourist to choose her?
[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1115479]THAT'S FUCKED UP, LOL!
If anyone's chica ends up in my photo collection it is only because they were milling around Sosua. I'm too lazy to go hunting outside of ground zero, LOL.
That's why I don't ever look a pictures on the board older than 2 years!
Lord know what may be out there.
Like the idea of the 2 mil in your shoe, never know when you might be kidnapped!I threw that in only for the paranoid, but it would have saved some major problems for at least one newbie I met down there.
USA Today had an article on page 4D today, January 21, about the resort. $28 / night!
SSAll I can say is that I've had nothing but positive experiences at LHVC. After I visited some mongering friends who were staying there, I was hooked! 6 bedroom villa, private pool, private cookout area and access to everything. The only time I noticed bracelets being checked was at the gate. I then stayed twice on my own (in a 3 br villa) with Manizales and 3 chicas. Again, no problems; full service, great customer service and access. Hotel workers were at our every beckon call. The last time I stayed there with a chica (or two) , I stayed in a junior suite, which was still awesome, though smaller accommodations. If I remember correctly, the 3 BR villa was like $6-700 dollars (which was split between the two of us) for 5 days or so plus $50 / day per person for the "all inclusive" fee. That's where it gets rough for those looking to bring in chicas. Either way, it was an acceptable cost overall for the great time we had. The thing is, you have to get the spot from an owner versus directly renting from the resort. Whatever membership level the owner has can be transferred to you (possibly minus a very few owner-only perks). This was probably 2-2. 5 years ago and we had access to everything (there were no more golf carts available, otherwise we would have had one of those). I'm just saying, if you're interested, do your own research and don't be discouraged by others; I really enjoyed the place!
Rodeo
"terrible way to die." Hell that is exactly how I would like to go. Shooting a max load into some really HOT foreign Hottie.
I guess others might prefer waiting around in old age with a hose up your dick to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140), a pan under your ass to shit, and a tube down your throat to eat. To each his own.
Take Me NOW,
Chica Luv.
I was in Thailand a few years ago. Watching the local Thai news. That month it was reported in Bangkok, their police found 10 German male tourists died of heart related conditions in their hotel rooms after taking vigara and trying to get together with local girls.
This would be a terrible way to die, in a foreign country.
CH & Oakie.
Guys, thanks for the great reads.
CH, your story and observations are the same time & again. I know a guy on the Mexicali board that told me about a 6+ year relationship that ending in arrest and major $$$$$ being taken from him. This was his second time, as he didn't learn from the first foreign "LOVE of his Life" experience.
Oakie, I hope it works out for you, and in the end you don't lose more than you can afford.
Oakie, maybe you could "slide" Coolie her phone number and see if she bites (no pun intended). LOL.
Have fun,
CL.
Oakie,
LMFAO! Now that's funny! Hey all is fair in love in war. Better tell her to stay away from Sosua Cus if she's fine I'll crush it like a coke can. LOL! But with all seriousness that's good shit that things are working out with you and the honey bun. Tired of hearing sad endings or why it didn't work, blah, blah, blah! Keep doing your thing.
Now speaking of honeys here's an update on my girl Sade. Soo all last year she goes from regular talking to ooh can I send her money. I told her I'll give her money once I'm actually in DR. So you know what happens next. The emails became short, no more calling me her man / husband *blah, blah, blah.
Now mind you gents when it comes to the ladies I'm the Magic Johnson of pussy. I'll pass off a female so my boy can smash in a heart beat. Especially with broads in Sosua. Now a few months back a certain senior monger that's on here ask for the digits and I slid the number to him. Just told him don't let her know that I gave it to him.
And wouldn't you know it gents my boy called and she was ready to give him the panties faster then a fatman falling out of a chair. The fellow monger bluff on Sade or so he says but the important thing gents is to not get so attach that you can't see the relationship for what it is.
It's easy to fall for a women in DR and to be honest even after passing off Sade like musical chairs I still have a soft spot for her. You know why cus I know as soon as I touchdown in DR she's going to treat ol' Coolie like a king, fluff my pillows, massage my bunions, the whole nine for the duration of my trip, all for the price of paying her rent. Which comes to $300 dollars BTW.
God bless Sosua! Hell Walmart can't beat that price and service. I can't wait to get back to the promise land
I'm in casa marina feburary 13 until the 16. Hitting Sosua for the first time. Anybody in the area. Want to get a beer?
SavePros321
01-25-11, 03:00
ROTFLMAO. I'm with you on that one. I don't ever want to develope a comfort zone where having naked dudes with hard dicks around me is acceptable. Plus I'm to selfish to share pussy.That about sums it up, LOL! I'll share just about anything with you: alcohol, ganja, food, info, etc. But when it comes to pussy, I'm muthafuckin Uncle Scrooge!
the dr trip
sosua and boca chica for mlk weekend.
since delta is going to discontinue the pop flight, me and a friend decided to fly down to sosua, make the drive to boca chica and leave from sdq. this being my 48th trip to the dr it seems it was full of rookie mistakes and pitfalls that made it mentally draining.
sosua.
the flight.
arriving from atlanta we land around 2:30pm and since it was a big push we were parked at the pad and had to deplane on the tarmac and escorted to customs. at that point we realized we had no cash on hand to pay the jack tax when you enter the dr. spoke to the passport officer for him to escort us to the change place in baggage claim to make a withdrawal. that place raped me 5 dollar fee to withdrawal 20 dollars. i felt like it was a bonehead move to show up without no cash. was walked back to jack tax booth paid the 10 dollars and went thru passport control and customs. i assumed it was the worse that could happened but i was wrong.
the transportation.
two days earlier i made my car reservation thru orbitz and found a good deal with sixt rental car. it was 107 dollars for 2 days and the drop fee. they finally moved the rental car booth back inside. i went straight to sixt rental booth and there was nobody. i called the office number and nobody answered and called the cell phone number written on the counter and no answer. the hertz booth told me there is nobody working there that day. the only person there is sick and is at the doctor. i was like wtf i have a reservation and need to pick up a car. they said call santo domingo and see what they could do. i called the santo domingo office and was told tough shit buddy. i was pissed beyond my limits. i started to talk to other companies to see if they could match the price. they all started with the drop fee alone is 120 to 150 dollars. i said hell no and called my hotel. luckily the hotel i was staying at offered free airport pick up and drop off. while i was waiting the payless rental car told me he can rent me a car for 70 dollars a day including drop fee. i told him i will take his card and call him back the next day. went to atm machine by the bank and took out money. ban resevas doesn't charge atm convenience fee.
the hotel
the hotel i stay at is villa chessa it's near the playa chiquita casino. i recommend this place if you want to be away from the noise and bullshit that is around the main drag. for 50 dollars a night you get free airport pickup and drop off, free breakfast, free wi-fi, and they will drop you off in sosua during daytime hours. they are currently remodeling the rooms and installing flat screens tv's. the place has a bar, pool table, swimming pool and a bbq pit if you want to have your own bbq. the manager's name is shannon white cat from indiana and the owner is mario. they can arrange car rentals there for 40 dollars a day which you pick up at the hotel. the hotel number is 809-571-3412. tell them i sent you and they will try to accommodate most requests. they can even call the hoes to come over if you don't feel like going out. since i was still carless i called orbitz to complain and it was a moot point talking to india. i made another reservation with alamo for 107 dollars and went to the airport the next day to pick up the car.
the restaurants.
asked mario from the hotel to drop us off at bailey's to eat. the restaurant has a bar with some of the finest chicas working. the place also has free wi-fi. it's next to the banco popular and a stone throw away from new garden and hotel sea breezes. another spot to get some good food to eat is susana's. it near hotel europa. this restaurant is most of the hoes go to eat since its only dominican food they serve and they are reasonably priced. if you go get the fried fish it's like eating butter on how good it is. you can also try the chicken place about 30 feet down from susana's. the hotel has three options for the free breakfast. fried eggs with bacon and potatoes, omelet plate, and pancake plate.
the watering holes.
so walking down we noticed a new place called cmp (caribbean men's paradise). the place is supposed to be a passion's competition. walked in and saw two girls that use to work from passion's working there. got a beer chatted her up and noticed the place also had free wi-fi. there were 15 girls working and the girl i was chatting up introduced me to her sister. they wanted me to do a threesome. even though i never have done sisters at once i decided to pass. i had to go passion's after all the rage. when i got there i was blown away. i couldn't believe it. the place has been expanded to the point i almost didn't recognize it. the place has over 30 girls working and the prices are still the same from my last visit of 14 months ago. fish tank bar counters. second floor with a plexiglass floor so you can look up the girls skirts. the pool was enclosed and now indoors with a vip seats by the pool. the place has 3 stripper poles. to many fine hoes there i honestly could not make up my mind. damn is all i can say. i picked a qt from santiago and just did the massage. i always have a rule to test drive the girl with the massage to see if she is really motivated. if she isn't all i have lost is 1300 pesos. if she is motivated i get her number and check her out later or call here after she gets off work. by this time it already 10 pm and went to the chicken place to eat. contacted rafael since he was there to meet us at latinos around 11 pm. once we got to latinos there were a lot of girls there and ran into kenny from rio. if you have been to rio you know who kenny is. he did the boat thing in rio. i was drinking my beer and this little 23 year old from santo domingo came by and caught my eye. my wing man was commenting how pretty she was. rafael finally came by and we decided to go to classico's. this place was packed. i mean i had to wait over 15 minutes in line to buy a ticket. went up there and it was standing room only. the place reminds me of help somewhat. rafael found himself a future ex-wife and was laughing when i asked him when is the wedding. the crazy part about it was i was just asking her for her name and homegirl got mad at me because she said i already boned her and kicked her out of the room. i was like i did? i didn't remember her so it must have been a bad fuck. by this time it getting late and i need to bone.
the girl.
so we agreed on set price and thought home girl was cool. we rode motoconchos to the hotel. since i didn't have change the dude told the other dude that i need to pay 100 pesos a person. i am like wtf. i told him he was crazy and i am no regular tourist and that he needed to give the other bike 50 pesos change. he said no and that he took a risk by driving me at night. i told him he was crazy. i was making such a big scene that the hotel watch man came out asking what was going on. the motoconchos didn't want to budge. the watch man had to point the gun to their heads before realizing they couldn't rip me off. the accepted the offer and speed off. i was livid. home girl realized i wasn't one to mess around with. we get to the room and both take showers. we get on the bed and get busy. the broad was a lazy fuck and i had to destroy her since she wasn't motivated. well once i nutted she jumped up and went in the shower. then she said she had to go. i told her she agreed to be with me for 2 hours and not 30 minutes. she said she was on the clock since she met me. at that point i threw the money at her and pushed her out the door. i wasn't going to argue with her since she was being a damn trick.
last day in sosua.
woke up the next day and went down to the bar area at the hotel to eat breakfast. had the scrambled eggs with bacon wasn't to shabby by my standards. i called payless rental car to confirm with them the rental car for 70 dollars. well homeboy changed his story with its 70 dollars plus a 200 dollar drop fee. i just hung up i wasn't going to argue with them. luckily i had made another reservation with alamo for 90 dollars including the drop fee. shannon gave me a ride to the airport so i could pick up the car. thank god i had the reservation printed out because they couldn't find the reservation in the system. what i found amazing was this was the same company that quoted me $150 drop fee and i was able to book it online for only $50 dollars. well my luck was changing because they were out of economy and compact cars. they upgraded me to a bigger car. did the final walk around and signed the papers on the car. i headed back to the hotel to pick up my wing man. we went by passion for one final pass over but found the place to be dead and bolted out of sosua.
the trip to boca chica.
so we headed on the freeway 5 east towards nagua. there is plenty of scenic views when taking this road. we drove by the nudist resort called caliente club resorts. i have always heard of a nudist resort but never knew where it really was. as soon as we on the outskirts there was police check point stopping cars. well the police asked if transporting firearms or drugs, i responded no. i told him we are tourists driving to santo domingo. then he asked if we had money to give him. i told him that i only use my card and didn't have change. he let us go and continued our drive to nagua. once we got to nagua the city was kinda crazy with traffic. didn't know where to go but kept going towards the center. we stopped to get gas. from the gas station we found the signs that pointed to santo domingo. well it was somewhat crazy following the sign because it was going west like i was heading back to sosua. once we left the city found the new hi-way to santo domingo. once we got on the road it was easy sailing from there. very scenic of the countryside and mountains. the toll total for this road is around 300 pesos. it shaves around an hour off the drive going the other way to santo domingo. it also puts you by the airport outside the city. we finally get into las americas and head over towards boca chica.
the hotel boca chica.
well my wingman wanted to stay at mozart hotel because its, suppose to be an after hours spot. also it's next to the yellow house in which you can find some nice 8's and 9's working. the price of the hotel was 750 pesos. all i can say the room was pitiful. one door from the closet was missing. no tv, no shower curtains, ceiling fan made hella noise and only one towel. i had to call down to complain about the shower curtain and extra towel. i told my wingman never again to stay there. since we were staying for one day i said fuck it. at least the bed was comfortable. took a shower and headed to the casa's.
the casa's boca chica.
started by going to yellow house next door. they had over 18 girls working but i wasn't impressed by the selection. since i knew the manager there i asked her if she had any more girls and she said no. we left and went to the pink house. the selection there was only 6 girls and it wasn't to my taste. we walked over to the playboy club and when we walked in the place smelled like a porno theatre and musty sweat shop. even though there was some nice girls there i couldn't take the smell and we left.
watering holes.
at that point we walked to avenida duarte and found a drum chicken spot on the street and grabbed half a chicken to eat. after eating we went to the piano bar to hang out and see what strolled thru there. there were at least 4 chicks i would hit but was all about business and wanted like 2000 pesos for one hour. i am like bump that. after 11:30 we went to the club across the street and it was dead. we went back the piano bar and stayed until they kicked us out. ran into a chick another wingman hit and she told me about a new club that opened up. batey club it across the street from the boathouse. we went there and the place was packed. the bouncers were holding people back from going up. had to wait for 10 minutes before they let us in. now don't get me wrong the place was nice but it was full of locals and the ratio was off. like 3 dudes for like 1 chick. i guess the hookers didn't make in there. we left and called it a night. after that 3 and half hour drive i wasn't in the mood to bone.
the next day woke up ate breakfast at tucantu bakery and went to the boathouse to drink a beer and see what was on the beach. by that time it was noon and had to check out and go to the airport.
all in all this trip was less then ideal and its going to be a while before i think about doing dr again.
WallStreet08
01-25-11, 05:59
Long time traveler, new member to site. Been to DR about 12 times over 6 years. Most of my travelling for work or fun is in South America or Asia. Wanted to provide a quick update on Sosua for all those who might be thinking of travelling there. I had read some mixed reviews, but I like the sun, the sand, and the food, so I figured I would check it out myself. Went down from Jan 15-19. Flew Continental with no problems. Stayed at Casa Valeria. $55 a night, good location, good restaurant, no major problems. Didn't like the bed, and the rooms were dark. I'm a simple traveler, I don't need much, but a soft bed goes a long way.
Overall impression of the place was that all services had gone down in quality, while the price of almost everything had gone up. There are very few girls in town, and those that are in town are hard core pros. The days of fresh faced latinas in booty shorts strolling the streets at dusk while guys sipped beers under palm trees are over. The street scene is dead. Passions expanded, and a similar club opened up, but being the only sources of women, guys barfine the girls quick, and most girls are mediocre looking at best and act bored. Got one massage, it was terrible from start to finish, and didn't get another. Go in after 10, and see how many girls are there (guys looking at each other while a few ugly girls dance around). Some people say whats the difference between 50 girls or 200. But economics will say if there is 50 girls instead of 200, they get to charge more and work less because they know there is less competition.
The evening scene doesn't get going till after midnight. Went to classicos for three nights. Gets busy after midnight, but very little to no talent. One or two girls with cute faces, but the bodies just arent tight. Took one girl home, and instantly regretted it, sent her packing ASAP and didn't take home another girl. If you like girls with big breasts, and 20 extra pounds, then you might enjoy this spot, but thats not my style. To be blunt I only travel for absolute talent. 9-10's, nothing else. Rio used to be a big destination of mine, till the Mayor / Gov cracked down there too. I saw what happened in Rio, and for those that didn't you can see it now in Sosua. 5 years ago, you could get model level girls at the beach for $100 reals, last time I went in 2009, there were girls inside Help asking for $400, and believe me, they were no models. A combination of economics (our falling dollar, and their rising economy) , put an end to what had been before one of the greatest arbitrage dating opportunities the world had ever seen.
Police are also on the scene in Sosua. Don't know about you, but when I am on vacation, I don't want trucks filled with guys and automatic weapons tearing around the streets. Kind of ruins the whole caribbean tranquility thing. Also saw a lot of regular tourists on the beach in Sosua. Didn't used to see a lot of that in the heyday. There were lots of college kids from the US who dared to venture "off the resort".
I took the trip out of nostalgia and as something to get me through a tough period of work, as many of my friends swore off DR long ago, and I'm afraid I have now joined their growing ranks. If your not discerning about the women, and are happy with a point and click environment like blackbeards or New Garden, then there still might be a year or two left for you. For those that travel in search of the best parties, hottest women, and unbelievable scenery, then its time to move on. There are still some spots in Asia which offer unbelievable opportunity, and after seeing what's happened on this side of globe, I'm going to enjoy every last minute of it, because as things are going, the hot sun will soon leave the puddle dry.
Charles Pooter
01-25-11, 15:48
Mack Dad, you sure know how to make like difficult for yourself. Not my idea of a holiday. Don't blame the DR for that.
Mack Dad good report thanks for posting. But you need to do a little more"advanced thinking". No money at the airport after 48 visits, no motoconcho change etc. And I read some of your previous reports (which were good) and you always have problems with what ATMs charge. Don't sweat the small stuff.
And don't worry about Sir Charles. He was recently admitted to the retirement home but has a habit of walking off and finding a computer to say some silly shit. When I get thru typing I will call the retirement center and let them know he is loose.
Thanks for your report Wallstreet. Yes, it seems our mongering options (at least in the Western Hemisphere) are shrinking. Rio is just too expensive. Sosua is enduring a crackdown. Colombia is starting to be overrun with gringos with the resulting price rises and decline in service.
Where do you go in Asia that still meets your stardards? I've only mongered in Thailand, which is certainly fantastic. But with the long plane ride, one needs at least two weeks to make it worth it.
Medellin Dreams
01-25-11, 22:23
Thanks for the reports Mack Dad and Wallstreet.
I was getting ready to try the Dr / Sosua because my last trip to Cartagena was somewhat like your reports.
Maybe its time to make a long trip to Thailand.
Cheers
MiamiHeatLuver
01-26-11, 00:51
1) Raincoats. I like the crowns!
2) La Pela, goes in contingency with the Crowns, LOL.
3) I'd lube for some of those dry chochas and some good pounding! (goes together with the crowns and la pelas)
4) Some left over pesos and small USA bills for skycap, visa and $20 taxi rideo to sosua.
5) and Finally a fucking PEN for all of those fucking papers and slips you need to fill out. LOL Believe me this will cut down 20 minutes waiting for a pen or space at the immigration counters.
I will be arriving in Sosua at the end of the month and was planning on staying for at least a week. But I must say my expectations have gone down somewhat after reading so many negative posts about there being less chicas around, the police crackdown / corruption and hassling tourists etc. A place where you can't even get the chance to run into a nice chica just walking along, without her getting arrested for being alone, that sounds strange!
If things are getting so bad there in Sosua for the Chica's, apart from the deported Haitians, where have all the freelancers gone? They must have gone somewhere, Cabarate, Puerta Plata, Boca Chica, Santo Domingo? Have there been police crackdowns in other areas as well?
Regarding Mack Dad's recent posting, did the security guy really point a gun at the head of the motoconcho guys, what am I getting myself into? Are the police also becoming more corrupt than they used to be? I have only been to the DR once before for a week in 2000, and was in the whole area along the coast from Santa Domingo to Punta Cana. I rode the local buses, I walked at night alone in Santo Domingo a few times. I never had any problems. Have things got a lot more dangerous in the DR in the last 10 years, or is the north coast, and Sosua in particular another animal all together, a more dodgy place? I am generally the kind of guy who can avoid trouble, but I must say that years of travelling and mongering in Spain and Latin America have given me a confidence which I think could get me into trouble in Sosua and the DR in general. For example if somebody tries it on with me my instinct would be one of the following; to ignore them, give them a dirty look, say 'what is your problem? ' or tell them where to go, which has always worked. But maybe such a reaction in Sosua could get you beaten up or worse? I am certainly no hard man, no pun intended, it is all a front.
On another issue, it seems to me the car rental prices in the DR are a rip off and the logistics can be a pain. In Spain I can rent a good small car for around 130 Euro for a week, everything included, that is about the price for 2 or 3 days in the DR! Obviously the insurance premiums are ridiculous in the DR because of the state of the roads / amounts of accidents etc. Plus these drop fees are also a bad joke.
I am the kind of guy who cannot be bothered with con men, taxi's and motoconcho's ripping you off etc, and prefer to walk 2 miles than bother with the taxi if it is too much hassle. But I am not sure if it is possible to enjoy yourself in Sosua without going through all this endless hassle?
Now that my trip to the DR is impending, I am getting more nervous about some practical things. I was wondering if anybody knows if you can use European bank cards with MAESTRO or CIRRUS signs in the DR, as withdrawing cash from Credit cards is too expensive. I'm going to bring some cash, but I'm not the type of guy to walk around with loads of cash on me. As regards health, what is the incidence of food poisoning like? What kind of precautions should I take except from he obvious ones, like not drinking the water.
Mack Dad good report thanks for posting. But you need to do a little more"advanced thinking". No money at the airport after 48 visits, no motoconcho change etc. And I read some of your previous reports (which were good) and you always have problems with what ATMs charge. Don't sweat the small stuff.
And don't worry about Sir Charles. He was recently admitted to the retirement home but has a habit of walking off and finding a computer to say some silly shit. When I get thru typing I will call the retirement center and let them know he is loose. I don't have the luxury of planning my trips weeks or months in advance. We do things on the fly and It was a last minute trip that was decided on Friday and Saturday we were on the plane. Like all things it really slipped the mind. God knows how many ATMs I walked by in the US before boarding the plane.
The issue I have with the ATMs in DR now is some limit 2000 pesos per transaction and then tack on a 150 peso atm fee. If had to withdrawal 10, 000 pesos I would have to do it in 5 transactions I would have given the bank 750 pesos. I would say is bump the limit up so I can make one withdrawal and not get nickel and dime.
I don't have the luxury of planning my trips weeks or months in advance. We do things on the fly and It was a last minute trip that was decided on Friday and Saturday we were on the plane. Like all things it really slipped the mind. God knows how many ATMs I walked by in the US before boarding the plane.
The issue I have with the ATMs in DR now is some limit 2000 pesos per transaction and then tack on a 150 peso atm fee. If had to withdrawal 10, 000 pesos I would have to do it in 5 transactions I would have given the bank 750 pesos. I would say is bump the limit up so I can make one withdrawal and not get nickel and dime.The Banco Leon machines only gave me 2000 pesos at a time. For me and other guys, we have to choose Spanish as the transaction language to get the ATM machines to give us money in DR. Usually with Spanish chosen as the language, banco popular machines will give 5000 pesos per transaction (or more). ATM fees for me are about 5-6 US dollars per transaction.
The two thousand peso limit is a total rip off, because they know you will need to make several transactions and they will charge a fee on each transaction.
SavePros321
01-26-11, 04:59
The issue I have with the ATMs in DR now is some limit 2000 pesos per transaction and then tack on a 150 peso atm fee. If had to withdrawal 10, 000 pesos I would have to do it in 5 transactions I would have given the bank 750 pesos.I noticed this my last trip also and it really pissed me off because I used to also do 10, 000RD per day. The only thing that saved me was that I took a good amount of cash and just exchanged it in the cambio's.
I know some people that also go into Banco Popular (next to Bailey's) with their passport and stand in line to do transfers from their checking accounts, but every time I've ever went inside the line was too damn long so I would just leave.
i will be arriving in sosua at the end of the month and was planning on staying for at least a week. but i must say my expectations have gone down somewhat after reading so many negative posts about there being less chicas around, the police crackdown / corruption and hassling tourists etc. a place where you can't even get the chance to run into a nice chica just walking along, without her getting arrested for being alone, that sounds strange!
if things are getting so bad there in sosua for the chica's, apart from the deported haitians, where have all the freelancers gone? they must have gone somewhere, cabarate, puerta plata, boca chica, santo domingo? have there been police crackdowns in other areas as well?
regarding mack dad's recent posting, did the security guy really point a gun at the head of the motoconcho guys, what am i getting myself into? are the police also becoming more corrupt than they used to be? i have only been to the dr once before for a week in 2000, and was in the whole area along the coast from santa domingo to punta cana. i rode the local buses, i walked at night alone in santo domingo a few times. i never had any problems. have things got a lot more dangerous in the dr in the last 10 years, or is the north coast, and sosua in particular another animal all together, a more dodgy place? i am generally the kind of guy who can avoid trouble, but i must say that years of travelling and mongering in spain and latin america have given me a confidence which i think could get me into trouble in sosua and the dr in general. for example if somebody tries it on with me my instinct would be one of the following; to ignore them, give them a dirty look, say 'what is your problem? ' or tell them where to go, which has always worked. but maybe such a reaction in sosua could get you beaten up or worse? i am certainly no hard man, no pun intended, it is all a front.
on another issue, it seems to me the car rental prices in the dr are a rip off and the logistics can be a pain. in spain i can rent a good small car for around 130 euro for a week, everything included, that is about the price for 2 or 3 days in the dr! obviously the insurance premiums are ridiculous in the dr because of the state of the roads / amounts of accidents etc. plus these drop fees are also a bad joke.
i am the kind of guy who cannot be bothered with con men, taxi's and motoconcho's ripping you off etc, and prefer to walk 2 miles than bother with the taxi if it is too much hassle. but i am not sure if it is possible to enjoy yourself in sosua without going through all this endless hassle?
now that my trip to the dr is impending, i am getting more nervous about some practical things. i was wondering if anybody knows if you can use european bank cards with maestro or cirrus signs in the dr, as withdrawing cash from credit cards is too expensive. i'm going to bring some cash, but i'm not the type of guy to walk around with loads of cash on me. as regards health, what is the incidence of food poisoning like? what kind of precautions should i take except from he obvious ones, like not drinking the water. you will be fine in dr.
rental car prices with a company like alamo, about $40 per day which includes all insurance. my mastercard provides insurance in case the car is stolen and i pay about $8 dollars per day for third party liability insurance (in case someone gets injured in an accident with the car). i have rented over 20 times with alamo in the dr (at puerto plata airport and santo domingo airport) and never had a problem. i like having the freedom that a car gives me in dr. i can go and drive and see some chica or visit some tourist site or drive to the other side of the country. most highways are in good shape with not much traffic. it is almost therapeutic driving on a nice road in the sun, you can listen to music that you burned on compact discs and think about things.
at night the police in santo domingo have stopped me while i was driving, sometimes i will give them a few dollars and be on my way, other times i give them nothing.
the motoconcho guy who expected 100 pesos for a short ride is a thief. a short ride on a motorcycle taxi (motoconcho) is 20-25 pesos (50 pesos if you want to be generous). the driver of that moto was being a total ass trying to charge 100 pesos and the watchieman (security guard) was right to protect the hotel guest.
dr is a little like the wild west, you will see firearms. plenty of europeans live in sosua and other areas of the north coast and love it there. 90% or more of the people are not looking for trouble. everywhere there are a few knuckleheads. if you are lucky, your trip will be free of knuckleheads.
if you are an average tourist minding your business, no one will bother you (if you are worried about the police, stop and buy a bottle of water for 5 pesos and give it to a police officer in the street, more than likely that police officer will remember you and be friendly with you). i really don't believe the police will bother you if you are just walking around. guys driving cars or guys on motos, the police may stop; if you don't have a seat belt on, talking on a cell and driving, no helmet while operating a motorcycle are reasons they might stop a person.
if you use a moto driver and the guy is honest with you, you can use him throughout your trip. sosua is small, you can walk everywhere in sosua, day or night.
you have to be firm, so people don't try to take advantage. you can be nice when you are around people who are also nice. when you have tigers or sharks around, you have to be tough.
..........The issue I have with the ATMs in DR now is some limit 2000 pesos per transaction and then tack on a 150 peso atm fee. If had to withdrawal 10, 000 pesos I would have to do it in 5 transactions I would have given the bank 750 pesos. I would say is bump the limit up so I can make one withdrawal and not get nickel and dime.I noticed within the past several months the banks in SD are charging $RD112 per transaction. This amount can certainly add up over the course of a trip when in the past there was no DR bank fee attached.
MiamiHeatLuver
01-26-11, 06:11
Absolutely no fees! from them, visa / mc or the Dominican Republic. If they do happen to squeeze some kind of fee past the goalie. They quickly reimburse you. Then hit a Banco Popular and go to town, 5000k plus a shot.. take out 10k a day til satisfied. I opened a few years ago with $500 and use this card religiously. http://www.firstrepublic.com/ give them a call..
QUOTE:
"That's the wonderful thing about First Republic is that there is no charge for using the debit card overseas at any ATM as you will be reimbursed (just hang on to receipts for reimbursement, just in case we don't do it automatically). As for foreign conversion fees, that is charged by VISA and would have nothing to do with FRB, therefore we have no control over what they'd charge you for making a purchase overseas with your debit card.
Hope that helps.
Heather H. Chan
Assistant Manager
First Republic Bank
One Embarcadero Center
San Francisco, CA 94111
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Absolutely no fees! From them, visa / mc or the Dominican Republic. If they do happen to squeeze some kind of fee past the goalie. They quickly reimburse you. I opened a few years ago with $500 and use this card religiously.
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Give them a call. Have you used this card in rep dom in the past couple of months? If so was the $RD112 fee not tacked on?
I have used PayPal for years and the only charge was $1 USD charged by PayPal. Now all the DR banks (well at least in SD) want an additional $RD112. The only way to get around the fees would be to open an account in rep dom. For frequent visitors this isn't a bad idea.
MiamiHeatLuver
01-26-11, 06:33
Have you used this card in rep dom in the past couple of months? If so was the $RD112 fee not tacked on?
I have used PayPal for years and the only charge was $1 USD charged by PayPal. Now all the DR banks (well at least in SD) want an additional $RD112. The only way to get around the fees would be to open an account in rep dom. For frequent visitors this isn't a bad idea. Bq, I have not used this card since prob Oct 2010. If the bank charges you a gringo fee or tax. And it is not credited immediately. Keep the receipt and send to your customer service rep like the bank representative says and she will credit your account. Just like she quoted me. But I have NOT have had to go that route yet.
Bq, I have not used this card since prob Oct 2010. If the bank charges you a gringo fee or tax. And it is not credited immediately. Keep the receipt and send to your customer service rep like the bank representative says and she will credit your account. Just like she quoted me. But I have NOT have had to go that route yet.OK well let us know next time you use it. My luck I would lose every receipt and not get a dime back. The new $RD112 is not really a gringo fee, it is universal. I have a rep dom bank account with a debit card. Even when I use a DR issued bank card I am charged this NEW $RD112 fee unless I use the card at the issuing bank.
I don't see what is wrong with a $RD150 ATM charge? That is a whole $4 US which we are paying day in / out in the states already. Even if it was more, what can it be, a whole extra buck more for vacation convenience?
Even if my bank did not rebate me my ATM costs I still would not complain. Anybody who really hates excessive ATM fees should sign up for a Schwab account and gain access to one of their ATM cards. No matter where you use it, the ATM fees are rebated.
At the same time not being able to find an ATM that gives out more than 2K pesos is just plain lame. They are all over the place! I have taken 10K out of both Banco Popular and Playero Supermercado with good consistency. I suggest more ground work after you touchdown. Only then will these piddly issues go away.
Funinthesun63
01-26-11, 07:17
The issue I have with the ATMs in DR now is some limit 2000 pesos per transaction and then tack on a 150 peso atm fee. If had to withdrawal 10, 000 pesos I would have to do it in 5 transactions I would have given the bank 750 pesos. I would say is bump the limit up so I can make one withdrawal and not get nickel and dime.
Banco Popular was my atm of choice for many trips mainly because it is conveniently located and well lit at night. I liked the new dispensing machines they installed this past year but recurring little problems have caused me to look elsewhere. The nail in the coffin was when the Banco Popular atm at LaSirena in Puerto Plata dinged me for 5000 pesos. Surprisingly, upon my arrival back home and speaking with my bank, I was reimbursed fully but it took 2 months. Another problem with Banco Popular is that it would not debit my account, instead it would do it as a cash advance on my credit card which incurred interest. Not a big deal but annoying. My new debit card with no credit card # attached to it yeilded no cash at all.
Now I use the atm at Banco Santa Cruz kitty corner to Super Super liquor store. It dispenses 10000 pesos no problem with a mix of crispy new bills. I am told by many that ScotiaBank is good as well. It is located a little past Europa hotel heading towards Passion's. Some days, however, ScotiaBank only dispensed 200 peso bills so quite a big wad of bills if withdrawing a large amount of cash.
Another poster mentioned that Banco Reservas does not charge the atm fee on cash withdrawls. Can anyone else confirm this? I believe there is a Banco Reservas atm just across from Super Super heading towards the strip. I will try it on my next trip and see what their daily limit is.
Manizales911
01-26-11, 09:19
1) Raincoats. I like the crowns!
2) La Pela, goes in contingency with the Crowns, LOL.
3) I'd lube for some of those dry chochas and some good pounding! (goes together with the crowns and la pelas)
4) Some left over pesos and small USA bills for skycap, visa and $20 taxi rideo to sosua.
5) and Finally a fucking PEN for all of those fucking papers and slips you need to fill out. LOL Believe me this will cut down 20 minutes waiting for a pen or space at the immigration counters. I always bring TWO pens, one for me and one for all the idiots that travel without one and always ask to borrow mine.
FirstTimeGuy
01-26-11, 11:30
Ok, I am a little confused (but don't worry. I am not too bright and I confuse easy). I usually tend to lurk until I can find out the information (especially since I have nothing to contribute yet) but I do have some questions. You read one report and they talk about how great the new Sosua is. Then you read another report about how its gone to hell and all the hot chicks packed up and left. That all the chicas that are left all look like Alice the goon and you will only have a good time if you have a little black book of sosua. What do I believe? I have just been hearing so many conflicting reports that I am not sure. Worse case scenario I stay at my AI and drink presidentes everyday and pass out in the sun. I just don't want to get my hopes up to have them dashed.
I just booked a trip for the beginning of April. Since I am a newbie at this, and have never been to Sosua before and don't know what I missed (ignorance is bliss?) , I am having a hard time determining if I made a mistake or not. I speak no spanish and I am not a hardcore monger. I am going solo so no wingman either. Am I destined to be "super gringo" and be confined to passions, BB and cristals? Or do you think if I ventured off that path and hit up the bars like classicos that I would still have a good time?
Also I know most people have said the best way to set up a threesome is to pick one chica and let her pick the other. I am looking for a full threesome where they play with each other also. How do I know if they are going to be into one another or if the one chica I pick is just trying to hook up her friend with a payday?
The issue I have with the ATMs in DR now is some limit 2000 pesos per transaction and then tack on a 150 peso atm fee. If had to withdrawal 10, 000 pesos I would have to do it in 5 transactions I would have given the bank 750 pesos. I would say is bump the limit up so I can make one withdrawal and not get nickel and dime...If your ATM fees are too high, open up a free PayPal account online, request a free debit card, and pay US$1 per ATM transaction when you are in the Dominican Republic. Before trips, transfer some travel money from your bank account to your PayPal account for free and never have to worry about using your bank debit card again.
-Helpmann :)
ATM Advice in the DR (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?611-General-Info&p=917468&viewfull=1#post917468)
PayPal (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?611-General-Info&p=1042908&viewfull=1#post1042908)
Coolie High
01-26-11, 13:56
Ok, I am a little confused (but don't worry. I am not too bright and I confuse easy). I usually tend to lurk until I can find out the information (especially since I have nothing to contribute yet) but I do have some questions. You read one report and they talk about how great the new Sosua is. Then you read another report about how its gone to hell and all the hot chicks packed up and left. That all the chicas that are left all look like Alice the goon and you will only have a good time if you have a little black book of sosua. What do I believe? I have just been hearing so many conflicting reports that I am not sure. Worse case scenario I stay at my AI and drink presidentes everyday and pass out in the sun. I just don't want to get my hopes up to have them dashed.
I just booked a trip for the beginning of April. Since I am a newbie at this, and have never been to Sosua before and don't know what I missed (ignorance is bliss?) , I am having a hard time determining if I made a mistake or not. I speak no spanish and I am not a hardcore monger. I am going solo so no wingman either. Am I destined to be "super gringo" and be confined to passions, BB and cristals? Or do you think if I ventured off that path and hit up the bars like classicos that I would still have a good time?
Also I know most people have said the best way to set up a threesome is to pick one chica and let her pick the other. I am looking for a full threesome where they play with each other also. How do I know if they are going to be into one another or if the one chica I pick is just trying to hook up her friend with a payday?My good man let me try and break it down for you.
1st: Do not I repeat do NOT change your plans to come to Sosua. You'll have a good time.
2nd: The reason that there are so many conflicting reports is cause of the OG's and the new comers. Now what I mean by that an OG has been coming to Soaua for plenty of years so the sudden drop off is going to be a shock. Which is rightfully understandable. Now a new comer or a monger that has been to DR plenty of times but doesn't really come to Sosua often when they come it's all good Cus they can't really tell the difference or they don't care cus there's still plenty of honeys it's just not as many as they use to be and it's not a free for all.
3rd: As far as a 3some I'm shooting blanks down there. Now don't get me wrong I've had happy hour plenty of times but having the honeys kiss and play with each other that's a different level I haven't rose to yet. Hey Mr. Gogo, Helpmann, Savepro, MiamiHeatLover, Jao etc please intsruct my man in the ways of gettin bi-females in DR. Hell I'm taking notes cus I need that to happen next time I'm in DR.
P. S. You got till now and April to learn some Spanish. Trust me speaking Spanish goes along way in DR
Charles Pooter
01-26-11, 14:53
Ok, I am a little confused (but don't worry. I am not too bright and I confuse easy). I usually tend to lurk until I can find out the information (especially since I have nothing to contribute yet) but I do have some questions. You read one report and they talk about how great the new Sosua is. Then you read another report about how its gone to hell and all the hot chicks packed up and left. That all the chicas that are left all look like Alice the goon and you will only have a good time if you have a little black book of sosua. What do I believe? I have just been hearing so many conflicting reports that I am not sure. Worse case scenario I stay at my AI and drink presidentes everyday and pass out in the sun. I just don't want to get my hopes up to have them dashed.
I just booked a trip for the beginning of April. Since I am a newbie at this, and have never been to Sosua before and don't know what I missed (ignorance is bliss?) , I am having a hard time determining if I made a mistake or not. I speak no spanish and I am not a hardcore monger. I am going solo so no wingman either. Am I destined to be "super gringo" and be confined to passions, BB and cristals? Or do you think if I ventured off that path and hit up the bars like classicos that I would still have a good time?
Also I know most people have said the best way to set up a threesome is to pick one chica and let her pick the other. I am looking for a full threesome where they play with each other also. How do I know if they are going to be into one another or if the one chica I pick is just trying to hook up her friend with a payday? If this is your first trip to Sosúa and you do your research on this and other boards first (you have plenty of time) you will have a great time for sure. Only the guys who remember it in different times are whingeing.
Only problem is, you mention an AI. If you are staying in a "chica unfriendly" AI then you are making life more difficult for yourself. Where are you staying?
Yes, let the first chica pick (or at least approve) the second and ask them up front if they are lesbianas otherwise you will be disappointed. If at Passions or at Blackbeards you could ask the manager / mamasan to pick the chicas.
If visiting Clasico disco start at midnight and get some sleep in first. Decisions made under pressure when tired could get you into trouble. In the day you might want to hang at New Garden and make friends with some guys who know the scene. Don't drink too much or you will be an easy target. In fact if sex is more important than alcohol to you on this trip I would try to drink as little as possible. You can always get drunk back in your own country for about the same prices but you cannot find chicas there at DR prices.
Decide a maximum price level for yourself in advance and don't exceed it. I would suggest 1500 ST and 2500 LT. If the chica asks more just decline politely and walk away. She may or may not be back but there are always others. If you get the reputation for paying more you will get stuck with always paying more. The chicas talk to each other a lot.
Manizales911
01-26-11, 15:17
If this is your first trip to Sosúa and you do your research on this and other boards first (you have plenty of time) you will have a great time for sure. Only the guys who remember it in different times are whingeing.
Only problem is, you mention an AI. If you are staying in a "chica unfriendly" AI then you are making life more difficult for yourself. Where are you staying?
Yes, let the first chica pick (or at least approve) the second and ask them up front if they are lesbianas otherwise you will be disappointed. If at Passions or at Blackbeards you could ask the manager / mamasan to pick the chicas.
If visiting Clasico disco start at midnight and get some sleep in first. Decisions made under pressure when tired could get you into trouble. In the day you might want to hang at New Garden and make friends with some guys who know the scene. Don't drink too much or you will be an easy target. In fact if sex is more important than alcohol to you on this trip I would try to drink as little as possible. You can always get drunk back in your own country for about the same prices but you cannot find chicas there at DR prices.
Decide a maximum price level for yourself in advance and don't exceed it. I would suggest 1500 ST and 2500 LT. If the chica asks more just decline politely and walk away. She may or may not be back but there are always others. If you get the reputation for paying more you will get stuck with always paying more. The chicas talk to each other a lot.Sir Charles is spot on with his advise here. The most important being going to Classico's LATE in the evening. On the last night of my most recent trip I was hanging at the small bar at New Garden about 10 pm when a guy I had met came back from a walk down the strip and he had panic in his eyes. He said there were only a handful of girls down there at most. I tried to explain to him that it was too early. I had two more beers and at about 11:30-12:00 I sauntered on down there and low and behold at Latino's I counted 30 girls and at Classico's about 75 girls. So take the advise that has been given here and take an afternoon nap and head to the scene LATE, there are plenty of girls in Sosua they just come late to avoid the majority of the hassles by the police which are earlier in the evening.
MiamiHeatLuver
01-26-11, 15:27
If your ATM fees are too high, open up a free PayPal account online, request a free debit card, and pay US$1 per ATM transaction when you are in the Dominican Republic. Before trips, transfer some travel money from your bank account to your PayPal account for free and never have to worry about using your bank debit card again.
-Helpmann.
ATM Advice in the DR (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?611-General-Info&p=917468&viewfull=1#post917468)
PayPal (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?611-General-Info&p=1042908&viewfull=1#post1042908)
I have this card as well the only drawback was a $400 max per day cash limit. Is that still the case for I have not used this card for a few years now.
I have this card as well the only drawback was a $400 max per day cash limit. Is that still the case for I have not used this card for a few years now.There is a US$400 daily ATM limit and a US$3,000 daily spending limit per debit card. Nevertheless, online you can request a free 2nd debit card in your name or the name of your choice, which would in effect double both your daily ATM and spending limits.
Personally, the biggest annoyance with PayPal is that free money transfers from my bank account to my PayPal account take 3 - 5 business days. Nevertheless, that is how PayPal makes money, on the 3 - 5 day float.
-Helpmann :)
Ok, I am a little confused (but don't worry. I am not too bright and I confuse easy). I usually tend to lurk until I can find out the information (especially since I have nothing to contribute yet) but I do have some questions. You read one report and they talk about how great the new Sosua is. Then you read another report about how its gone to hell and all the hot chicks packed up and left. That all the chicas that are left all look like Alice the goon and you will only have a good time if you have a little black book of sosua. What do I believe? I have just been hearing so many conflicting reports that I am not sure. Worse case scenario I stay at my AI and drink presidentes everyday and pass out in the sun. I just don't want to get my hopes up to have them dashed.
I just booked a trip for the beginning of April. Since I am a newbie at this, and have never been to Sosua before and don't know what I missed (ignorance is bliss?) , I am having a hard time determining if I made a mistake or not. I speak no spanish and I am not a hardcore monger. I am going solo so no wingman either. Am I destined to be "super gringo" and be confined to passions, BB and cristals? Or do you think if I ventured off that path and hit up the bars like classicos that I would still have a good time?
Also I know most people have said the best way to set up a threesome is to pick one chica and let her pick the other. I am looking for a full threesome where they play with each other also. How do I know if they are going to be into one another or if the one chica I pick is just trying to hook up her friend with a payday?Pooter offers good advice. I am not sure whether you have already booked a room at an AI. Which AI you have booked at will have an effect on your mongering. If you are booked at Playa Dorada complex then you will be a 30 minute drive from Sosua. If you are booked at one of the RIU AI Hotels then you will be over an hour from Sosua. RIU Hotels are closer to Blackbeards.
Sosua has two larger AI Hotels, Sosua Bay Hotel / Victorian House and Casa Marina Reef / Beach. Sosua by the Sea Hotel may offer a meal package. Last time I stayed at the Sosua Bay Hotel / Victorian House AI, the owner had switched to serving Brahma beer for the AI guests (no presidente beer) , for me Brahma beer is like drinking sewer water.
To offer better advice I would need to know what area your AI hotel is located.
If your ATM fees are too high, open up a free PayPal account online, request a free debit card, and pay US$1 per ATM transaction when you are in the Dominican Republic. Before trips, transfer some travel money from your bank account to your PayPal account for free and never have to worry about using your bank debit card again.Is there a currency conversion factor they use to skim profits off you as well? Have you tracked the conversion rate they use? One buck is pretty cheap even if they do skim somewhere else too.
Like I said,"zero fee" with Schwab is great AND the skimming on the conversion is the lowest I have seen anywhere.
I think it is pointless quibbling over the fact that "not all" banks allow the extraction of over $2kPesos. Just don't give them your business and plan your extractions at other places whey you believe the environment is safer. After all you're not in Kansas anymore.
Like someone else posted earlier. Why sweat the small stuff.
Is there a currency conversion factor they use to skim profits off you as well? Have you tracked the conversion rate they use? One buck is pretty cheap even if they do skim somewhere else too...Yes, I have tracked the conversion rates on a monthly basis since 2008 and I have NEVER seen ANY exchange rate skimming. PayPal can charge $1 per ATM transaction, because 1) they're an "internet bank" with very low overhead costs; and 2) they can make money with short-term/overnight loans over the 3 - 5 day transfer period (the 'Float').
-Helpmann :)
my good man let me try and break it down for you.
1st: do not i repeat do not change your plans to come to sosua. you'll have a good time.
2nd: the reason that there are so many conflicting reports is cause of the og's and the new comers. now what i mean by that an og has been coming to soaua for plenty of years so the sudden drop off is going to be a shock. which is rightfully understandable. now a new comer or a monger that has been to dr plenty of times but doesn't really come to sosua often when they come it's all good cus they can't really tell the difference or they don't care cus there's still plenty of honeys it's just not as many as they use to be and it's not a free for all.
3rd: as far as a 3some i'm shooting blanks down there. now don't get me wrong i've had happy hour plenty of times but having the honeys kiss and play with each other that's a different level i haven't rose to yet. hey mr. gogo, helpmann, savepro, miamiheatlover, jao etc please intsruct my man in the ways of gettin bi-females in dr. hell i'm taking notes cus i need that to happen next time i'm in dr.
p. s. you got till now and april to learn some spanish. trust me speaking spanish goes along way in drgreat advise coolie, i speak for everyone when i say were awaiting your next visit and report. and yes everyone should still go to sosua because it is still excting in a different way.
as far as conficting reports go, everyone sees things differently because we are not the same. the "new sosua' vs the "old sosua" is like this for me. suppose you haven't been to mcdonalds in a few months, and decide you want a big mac. so you go to mcdonalds and look up at the menu and all you see is "hamburger for 69 cents" nothing else. you're hungry so you order two hamburgers but while your eating you remember the day when you could have fries, apple pie and a drink. but for someone who has never been to mcdonalds that hambuger is great.
the three way is a little trickier. most dominicanas don't want to share your deniro with other girls especially if its a gfe. but the days of gfe are over in sosua unless you have previous regulars. before you could walk your date to the beach for an afternoon or just hold hands walking around sosua. before there were so many girls that they had to lock in to secure a good thing. tln was on the menu in the old days. now the main course is st. the girls want to get paid fast and move on to the next quickie. alot of women that travel in pairs will usually do 3ways, but the sex usually is mechanical. the santiago sisters are a prime example. they offer sex 3ways but are going to make it quick (don't tell jao and bq) and business like. if i was you i would find a girl that has a girlfriend. tell her your a voyeour and just want to watch. specify a two hour time limit with them kissing, hunging, rubbing, sucking etc. grab a drink for the party, sit in a chair facing the bed and let them do what comes natural. once they are into it and know your not going to jump them, sit back and enjoy the show. if you prefer you can jack off and watch their reaction. if your real smooth go to the bed with a hard dick and red 1000peso notes held over up over your head in different hands. expect to get gang tackled and raped.
Yes, I have tracked the conversion rates on a monthly basis since 2008 and I have NEVER seen ANY exchange rate skimming. PayPal can charge $1 per ATM transaction, because 1) they're an "internet bank" with very low overhead costs; and 2) they can make money with short-term / overnight loans over the 3. 5 day transfer period (the 'Float').
-Helpmann. There is always exchange rate skimming and tracking this on a monthly basis (for our purposes) is not practical.
I don't proclaim to know the process exactly, but somewhere the rate for the Day is determined. The banks then take that rate and add on fractions of a penny so they don't get screwed when passing each other the money. This skim value is essentially passed on to the customer behind the curtains.
Paypal should provide you with the exchange rate they used for every transaction. In the past I have compared this to the published number via Yahoo finance (historical daily rates are available). It usually worked out that for every $100 I took out, the banks skimmed a couple of bucks off the top compared to the published rate for the day. Consumers just about never notice it.
I was fine with the skim because it was not too much and rumor was that the larger the banks interacting with each other (US with Road) the lower your skim tends to be.
The bottom line is you are being skimmed from and the banks do a great job keeping it hidden.
There is always exchange rate skimming and tracking this on a monthly basis (for our purposes) is not practical.
I don't proclaim to know the process exactly, but somewhere the rate for the Day is determined. The banks then take that rate and add on fractions of a penny so they don't get screwed when passing each other the money. This skim value is essentially passed on to the customer behind the curtains... Your definition of "skimming" is somewhat different from mine. When I refer to skimming, I am NOT talking about "fractions of pennies", but rates that exceed more than a half a percent deviation from the published exchange rate (Bloomberg). Because my PayPal account has been accessed from an ATM in the DR 2x per month for almost three years, it's not very hard to back into an exchange rate given the amount requested and deducted from my PayPal account.
-Helpmann :)
. Personally, the biggest annoyance with PayPal is that free money transfers from my bank account to my PayPal account take 3. 5 business days. Nevertheless, that is how PayPal makes money, on the 3. 5 day float.
-Helpmann. That is my one and only complaint also. Never looked at it from your point of view so I guess I won't complain anymore. I guess having my money "float" is worth the advantages of having PayPal.
If your ATM fees are too high, open up a free PayPal account online, request a free debit card, and pay US$1 per ATM transaction when you are in the Dominican Republic. Before trips, transfer some travel money from your bank account to your PayPal account for free and never have to worry about using your bank debit card again.
-Helpmann.
ATM Advice in the DR (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?611-General-Info&p=917468&viewfull=1#post917468)
PayPal (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?611-General-Info&p=1042908&viewfull=1#post1042908)
Excellent advice as usual. I have been doing this for close to five years and one of the big advantages I don't have to travel with my main USA bank debit card.
MiamiHeatLuver
01-26-11, 20:52
That is my one and only complaint also. Never looked at it from your point of view so I guess I won't complain anymore. I guess having my money "float" is worth the advantages of having PayPal.Any of those bank transfers that are non ATC instant, and promise 3-5 days? Its always been closer to 5 o 6 BUSINESS DAYS for me. So make sure you plan plenty of days in advance. I once had to use my credit cards for a cash advances because my money was still tied up on transfer times. Which really sucked because I got hit with so many different kinds of fees. This money tied up time is usually with cards like ETRADE, SCOTTRADE, FIDELITY, PAYPAL.
FirstTimeGuy
01-26-11, 22:12
I am staying at iberostar. Which I know is very unfriendly for the chicas. But I plan on coming into sosua and staying there for a few days. I am trying to combine my fun with a few days of just chilling out.
While in sosua the plan was to session during the day, hang by the pool, have some late dinner, take a nap and then head out. Seems like that is the way to go.
Charles Pooter
01-26-11, 22:29
I am staying at iberostar. Which I know is very unfriendly for the chicas. But I plan on coming into sosua and staying there for a few days. I am trying to combine my fun with a few days of just chilling out.
While in sosua the plan was to session during the day, hang by the pool, have some late dinner, take a nap and then head out. Seems like that is the way to go. Is that Iberostar, Costa Dorada, Puerto Plata?
If so, for the Puerto Plata part of your trip you will need somewhere to take the chicas once you have found them. You cannot take them back to Iberostar.
I live in Puerto Plata. PM me if I can be of help, especially showing you how to get around on the cheap by public transport. Taxis are expensive here, especially if you book them from the AI.
I am staying at iberostar. Which I know is very unfriendly for the chicas. But I plan on coming into sosua and staying there for a few days. I am trying to combine my fun with a few days of just chilling out.
While in sosua the plan was to session during the day, hang by the pool, have some late dinner, take a nap and then head out. Seems like that is the way to go. Iberostar is a nice hotel, there will be tourist women topless there and you will have a nice view of Mt. Isabel. Next door is the Marien AI. You will be in Costa Dorada complex which is adjacent to playa dorada complex. Two minutes from the Brugal factory and less than ten minutes from Crystals. I was in Crystals two times years ago and I saw some fine chicas there, prices are over $100US. El Bohen is another place in Puerto Plata city probably about 15-20 minutes from the Iberostar.
If you wanted to monger in Puerto Plata city you could do a Man Tour. You could visit Playa Dorada at night and see the bars they have there, years ago they had roadhouse, coco boingo, Hemingways and some others. Mangu disco in Playa Dorada used to get some pro chicas, but I believe Mangu is closed and there seems to be an effort to keep the pro chicas out of playa dorada bars.
There should be all you can drink good red wine at the Iberostar, so you don't necessarily have to confine yourself to the local beer.
Hey guys I have been reading up all the info and I have everything planned out. I will be making my way Sosua in May.
I just have a few questions.
I will most likely be getting a condo at rocky's hotel (did the math and it comes out cheaper for a week than hotel). So I wanted to know will I near close enough to the action that I can walk or take a motochono (sp?)?
Also I wanted to check out BB's. Since I won't be staying there can I just go there and pickup the girls there?
Twice Divorced
01-27-11, 02:08
and pay US$1 per ATM transaction when you are in the Dominican Republic.3. PayPal Debit Card Fees.
"ATM Withdrawal US $ 1. 00 (Plus any amounts charged by the ATM owner.)
Signature Withdrawal $ 3. 00 if a signature is required.
Non-US ATM Transaction (Using an ATM machine that is not in the US) 1% This fee will apply even if the transaction does not require a currency conversion.
Non-US Debit Card Usage (Making a purchase from a seller that is not in the US) 1% This fee will apply even if the transaction does not require a currency conversion.
Exchange Rate & Fee The currency exchange rate is determined by PayPal based on the current market price and includes a 2. 5% Fee. This Fee only applies when PayPal performs the currency conversion.
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Taken from Paypal's website. According to this, it is 1%, not $1. 00. Not an issue for me, but might be for those who are looking for the most cost effective means to access their money.
Hey guys I have been reading up all the info and I have everything planned out. I will be making my way Sosua in May.
I just have a few questions.
I will most likely be getting a condo at rocky's hotel (did the math and it comes out cheaper for a week than hotel). So I wanted to know will I near close enough to the action that I can walk or take a motochono (sp?)?
Also I wanted to check out BB's. Since I won't be staying there can I just go there and pickup the girls there? Rockys has three condos on their webpage: http://www.rockysbar.com/home.htm
Tradewinds Condominium is the least expensive of the three condos ($45 per night low season, $50 per night high season). They also have rates for one or two week rentals.
I rented at Tradewinds numerous times. Tradewinds is on a side road off of the main road (airport road) , going towards cabarete. It is 5 minutes or less on a moto from classicos. There is a small supermarket on the main road before the side road for Tradewinds. Usually in the mornings motoconchos wait down the hill from Tradewinds along the main road.
To walk into the center of Sosua you could walk along the main road, or you could cross the main road and take a side road, where you will pass the German baker and you will eventually be near Hotel Europa and the vicinity of Passions.
I had fun at Tradewinds. The pool is nice. I went swimming nude with chicas at 4-5am after "After One". No complaints from me about Tradewinds.
The other condo on Rockys webpage is priced about $75 per night called Mary Rose luxury condo, I have no info on that place.
The third condo they have is in Cabarete and is luxury, and is priced at about $190 per night high season with a three night minimum.
I think the Scotia Bank about halfway between Dr. Rosen and La Passions is good for more than 10K as well.
I don't see what is wrong with a $RD150 ATM charge? That is a whole $4 US which we are paying day in / out in the states already. Even if it was more, what can it be, a whole extra buck more for vacation convenience?
Even if my bank did not rebate me my ATM costs I still would not complain. Anybody who really hates excessive ATM fees should sign up for a Schwab account and gain access to one of their ATM cards. No matter where you use it, the ATM fees are rebated.
At the same time not being able to find an ATM that gives out more than 2K pesos is just plain lame. They are all over the place! I have taken 10K out of both Banco Popular and Playero Supermercado with good consistency. I suggest more ground work after you touchdown. Only then will these piddly issues go away.
Thought it would be interesting to hear of some of the unique characters you've run across in Sosua. I'm not talking, necessarily about just the chicas (they come and go) , but the other. Staples of the "community."
I always look forward to seeing the "Rosetta Stone" guy come around selling "Learn Spanish" DVDs. He's got a really smooth salesman type voice when he is touting it. The first time I met him, I let him give me the whole spiel before I told him I was already using the program after building up how great it sounded. I bought him a coke since it was so hot that day. I think he is Haitian, but has spent some time in the US. A real mild-mannered older (40s) guy.
Another character is this lighter skinned, bald Dominican guy who speaks perfect English. He lived in the Bronx for awhile before being deported. Not sure for what. But, the guy looks like a snake and talks like a snake. He is basically a hussle and con man. He finds English speaking newbies and offers his services which include "protecting" them from the wrong girls, making contact with girls and. This is the best. Introducing them to girls in Passions and convincing the girls to have sex with the guys-for a reasonable price! He told me one guy paid him $50USD just to "arrange" a sexual encounter with a girl (in Passions) that worked there. He tried to play that shit with me the first time at Classico's that he saw me. I told him it was my first time so I could hear his hussle, then broke the news that he was full of shit and I had been there several times before. He laughed and said "You got me". I laughed and bought him a Cuba Libre. Now, if you can get on the right side of a guy like this (I throw him 100pesos every now and then for a drink, admission to Classicos or a chicken meal from the grill) , he can be a good asset to get the gossip on whats going on in town. I definitely keep him at a distance and don't trust him at all-would never let him see where I was staying, flash too much cash, or go anywhere with him. But, he's entertaining and has connections and sometimes, that helps pass the time!
My final favorite (which rotates) is always a kid (boy). Usually, there's always a kid about 9 or 10 years old that has learned English from watching rap videos and sounds like he just stepped out of one. This one kid was like,"yo, yo, what up my and! Gg@I'm just tryin to mack these be! Tch#s and make this paper ya heard me?" So, I play along and I'm like "where the hoes at?" He goes on,"man I told this one be! Tch to have her a$$ on this corner by 9 cause mother fu@kers Like you was going to be lookin for some a$$, now I'mma have to smack her a$$ with the backside." Me and my wingman were DYING laughing as this was coming from a 9/10 year old! Then, he goes on and starts whispering about how he had "that fire weed" if we wanted to get "fu@ked Up like Chris Brown's career; but why'all got to give me the money first and I'll go get it for you and meet you over there." Nope. So, he starts talking about how that's good we don't do drugs cause that will fu@k Up your life,"why'all need to stay in school so why'all can make those dollars. Dollar, dollar bill why'all." So, we asked him what he knew about rap and he said he knew everything about rap-50 cent. 2pac, Biggie, Snoop. Little bastard even started freestyling. I told him we'd pay him 100pesos if he let me video him rapping. He did and I must've kept it for like 2 years before I deleted it. The first kid I think ended up in jail. So says the second kid who was damn near a carbon copy. I think a third kid was trying to approach one trip, but I was hunting some pu$$why at the time, so I brushed him off! If you ever run across one of these dudes, not to be confused with the shoe-shining Haitian kids, give them a few minutes of your time-it will be entertaining!
My favorite bartender is Sandra (with the mole) at Club 59 / Classico's. I think its because I wanted her from day 1 for her amazing ass and everyone was saying she was "not that kind of girl" or "off limits". Well, about 2 years into my travels, I finally proposition her, which she agrees, but it took me 2 more trips to seal the deal. All the trips in between, she would look at me with these "please fu@k Me" eyes and lips and just kept wagging her a$$ around me. There is definitely something to be said for the chase!
Taken from Paypal's website. According to this, it is 1%, not $1. 00. Not an issue for me, but might be for those who are looking for the most cost effective means to access their money.At the same time, buying something in a store using the card would probably tack on an extra 2. 5. Better to ATM for the cash and pay the store instead of paying the whole thing with the plastic.
When I use my Schwab ATM I wonder why Paypal can forgo their 2. 5% skim and Schwab can't or doesn't. Kinda interesting.
Coolie High
01-27-11, 04:02
Great advise Coolie, I speak for everyone when I say were awaiting your next visit and report. And yes everyone should still go to Sosua because it is still excting in a different way.
As far as conficting reports go, everyone sees things differently because we are not the same. The "new Sosua' vs the "old Sosua" is like this for me. Suppose you haven't been to McDonalds in a few months, and decide you want a big Mac. So you go to McDonalds and look up at the menu and all you see is "hamburger for 69 cents" nothing else. You're hungry so you order two hamburgers but while your eating you remember the day when you could have fries, apple pie and a drink. But for someone who has never been to McDonalds that hambuger is great.Mr. Gogo,
Didn't McDonalds stop selling Big Mac for a time and tried to change it up and provide some other bullshit burger before there was an uproar by the customers and they were forced to bring back the big Mac. I bet money by the end of the year everything will return back to normal. Nostalgia shall return.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDCUG16BJRo
...Non-US ATM Transaction (Using an ATM machine that is not in the US) 1% This fee will apply even if the transaction does not require a currency conversion...
...Taken from Paypal's website. According to this, it is 1, not $1. 00. Not an issue for me, but might be for those who are looking for the most cost effective means to access their money...With almost 70 ATM transactions in the Dominican Republic, spread out fairly evenly over the last three years, the fee on my debit card has always been US$1.00 per ATM transaction.
-Helpmann :(
Thought it would be interesting to hear of some of the unique characters you've run across in Sosua. I'm not talking, necessarily about just the chicas (they come and go) , but the other. Staples of the "community."
I always look forward to seeing the "Rosetta Stone" guy come around selling "Learn Spanish" DVDs. He's got a really smooth salesman type voice when he is touting it. The first time I met him, I let him give me the whole spiel before I told him I was already using the program after building up how great it sounded. I bought him a coke since it was so hot that day. I think he is Haitian, but has spent some time in the US. A real mild-mannered older (40s) guy.
Another character is this lighter skinned, bald Dominican guy who speaks perfect English. He lived in the Bronx for awhile before being deported. Not sure for what. But, the guy looks like a snake and talks like a snake. He is basically a hussle and con man. He finds English speaking newbies and offers his services which include "protecting" them from the wrong girls, making contact with girls and. This is the best. Introducing them to girls in Passions and convincing the girls to have sex with the guys-for a reasonable price! He told me one guy paid him $50USD just to "arrange" a sexual encounter with a girl (in Passions) that worked there. He tried to play that shit with me the first time at Classico's that he saw me. I told him it was my first time so I could hear his hussle, then broke the news that he was full of shit and I had been there several times before. He laughed and said "You got me". I laughed and bought him a Cuba Libre. Now, if you can get on the right side of a guy like this (I throw him 100pesos every now and then for a drink, admission to Classicos or a chicken meal from the grill) , he can be a good asset to get the gossip on whats going on in town. I definitely keep him at a distance and don't trust him at all-would never let him see where I was staying, flash too much cash, or go anywhere with him. But, he's entertaining and has connections and sometimes, that helps pass the time!
My final favorite (which rotates) is always a kid (boy). Usually, there's always a kid about 9 or 10 years old that has learned English from watching rap videos and sounds like he just stepped out of one. This one kid was like,"yo, yo, what up my and! Gg@I'm just tryin to mack these be! Tch#s and make this paper ya heard me?" So, I play along and I'm like "where the hoes at?" He goes on,"man I told this one be! Tch to have her a$$ on this corner by 9 cause mother fu@kers Like you was going to be lookin for some a$$, now I'mma have to smack her a$$ with the backside." Me and my wingman were DYING laughing as this was coming from a 9/10 year old! Then, he goes on and starts whispering about how he had "that fire weed" if we wanted to get "fu@ked Up like Chris Brown's career; but why'all got to give me the money first and I'll go get it for you and meet you over there." Nope. So, he starts talking about how that's good we don't do drugs cause that will fu@k Up your life,"why'all need to stay in school so why'all can make those dollars. Dollar, dollar bill why'all." So, we asked him what he knew about rap and he said he knew everything about rap-50 cent. 2pac, Biggie, Snoop. Little bastard even started freestyling. I told him we'd pay him 100pesos if he let me video him rapping. He did and I must've kept it for like 2 years before I deleted it. The first kid I think ended up in jail. So says the second kid who was damn near a carbon copy. I think a third kid was trying to approach one trip, but I was hunting some pu$$why at the time, so I brushed him off! If you ever run across one of these dudes, not to be confused with the shoe-shining Haitian kids, give them a few minutes of your time-it will be entertaining!
My favorite bartender is Sandra (with the mole) at Club 59 / Classico's. I think its because I wanted her from day 1 for her amazing ass and everyone was saying she was "not that kind of girl" or "off limits". Well, about 2 years into my travels, I finally proposition her, which she agrees, but it took me 2 more trips to seal the deal. All the trips in between, she would look at me with these "please Me" eyes and lips and just kept wagging her a$$ around me. There is definitely something to be said for the chase! The Rosetta Stone guy is named Lionel. He was deported from MD years ago for running drugs. He has a good deal on RS but they don't play on Macs. He also is good for intel and completely trust worthy. He pays the cops to play. The kids are cool but I don't need that kind of company. The girl with the mole has a nice ass but the tall light skinned beauty has always out ranked her for me.
Headed to Costa Rica manana with Kutha (packing as we speak) , look for a report on that forum in a week.
With almost 70 ATM transactions in the Dominican Republic, spread out fairly evenly over the last three years, the fee on my debit card has always been US$1. 00 per ATM transaction.
-Helpmann. Same here, when I review my online statement one column lists the USD amount and the next column list $1 fee.
MiamiHeatLuver
01-27-11, 04:55
With almost 70 ATM transactions in the Dominican Republic, spread out fairly evenly over the last three years, the fee on my debit card has always been US$1. 00 per ATM transaction.
-Helpmann. Help I agree with you that they only charge $1 no matter what, all over South America and the Caribbean they only charged me $1 BUT I remember I did an experiment where I used my ETRADE Card and PayPal card at the same time and took out the same amount. When I got home and looked at it online, it seemed like PayPal gave me a shittier exchange rate.
Yes I remember doing that experiment clearly and that was the case. So that's why its been buried away in the bottom of my wallet and haven't used it for a few years.
SavePros321
01-27-11, 04:58
Thought it would be interesting to hear of some of the unique characters you've run across in Sosua. I'm not talking, necessarily about just the chicas (they come and go) , but the other. Staples of the "community."
I always look forward to seeing the "Rosetta Stone" guy come around selling "Learn Spanish" DVDs. He's got a really smooth salesman type voice when he is touting it. The first time I met him, I let him give me the whole spiel before I told him I was already using the program after building up how great it sounded. I bought him a coke since it was so hot that day. I think he is Haitian, but has spent some time in the US. A real mild-mannered older (40s) guy.
Another character is this lighter skinned, bald Dominican guy who speaks perfect English. He lived in the Bronx for awhile before being deported. Not sure for what. But, the guy looks like a snake and talks like a snake. He is basically a hussle and con man. He finds English speaking newbies and offers his services which include "protecting" them from the wrong girls, making contact with girls and. This is the best. Introducing them to girls in Passions and convincing the girls to have sex with the guys-for a reasonable price! He told me one guy paid him $50USD just to "arrange" a sexual encounter with a girl (in Passions) that worked there. He tried to play that shit with me the first time at Classico's that he saw me. I told him it was my first time so I could hear his hussle, then broke the news that he was full of shit and I had been there several times before. He laughed and said "You got me". I laughed and bought him a Cuba Libre. Now, if you can get on the right side of a guy like this (I throw him 100pesos every now and then for a drink, admission to Classicos or a chicken meal from the grill) , he can be a good asset to get the gossip on whats going on in town. I definitely keep him at a distance and don't trust him at all-would never let him see where I was staying, flash too much cash, or go anywhere with him. But, he's entertaining and has connections and sometimes, that helps pass the time!
My final favorite (which rotates) is always a kid (boy). Usually, there's always a kid about 9 or 10 years old that has learned English from watching rap videos and sounds like he just stepped out of one. This one kid was like,"yo, yo, what up my and! Gg@I'm just tryin to mack these be! Tch#s and make this paper ya heard me?" So, I play along and I'm like "where the hoes at?" He goes on,"man I told this one be! Tch to have her a$$ on this corner by 9 cause mother fu@kers Like you was going to be lookin for some a$$, now I'mma have to smack her a$$ with the backside." Me and my wingman were DYING laughing as this was coming from a 9/10 year old! Then, he goes on and starts whispering about how he had "that fire weed" if we wanted to get "fu@ked Up like Chris Brown's career; but why'all got to give me the money first and I'll go get it for you and meet you over there." Nope. So, he starts talking about how that's good we don't do drugs cause that will fu@k Up your life,"why'all need to stay in school so why'all can make those dollars. Dollar, dollar bill why'all." So, we asked him what he knew about rap and he said he knew everything about rap-50 cent. 2pac, Biggie, Snoop. Little bastard even started freestyling. I told him we'd pay him 100pesos if he let me video him rapping. He did and I must've kept it for like 2 years before I deleted it. The first kid I think ended up in jail. So says the second kid who was damn near a carbon copy. I think a third kid was trying to approach one trip, but I was hunting some pu$$why at the time, so I brushed him off! If you ever run across one of these dudes, not to be confused with the shoe-shining Haitian kids, give them a few minutes of your time-it will be entertaining!
My favorite bartender is Sandra (with the mole) at Club 59 / Classico's. I think its because I wanted her from day 1 for her amazing ass and everyone was saying she was "not that kind of girl" or "off limits". Well, about 2 years into my travels, I finally proposition her, which she agrees, but it took me 2 more trips to seal the deal. All the trips in between, she would look at me with these "please fu@k Me" eyes and lips and just kept wagging her a$$ around me. There is definitely something to be said for the chase! Haha, yeah the Rosetta Stone guy was cool. He always had this book with him that he says he wrote himself. Don't forget about the tall Haitian guy with the paintings. I've got two of his paintings still rolled up in my closet, LOL.
Help I agree with you that they only charge $1 no matter what, all over South America and the Caribbean they only charged me $1 BUT I remember I did an experiment where I used my ETRADE Card and PayPal card at the same time and took out the same amount. When I got home it seemed like PayPal gave me a shittier exchange rate. Yes I remember doing that experiment clearly and that was the case. So that's why its been buried away on the bottom of my wallet and haven't used it for a few years.Your experiment gave you the correct answer. PayPal exchange rate is around 0.5 +/- peso on the dollar less than what you would get at a casa de cambio.
Haha, yeah the Rosetta Stone guy was cool. He always had this book with him that he says he wrote himself. Don't forget about the tall Haitian guy with the paintings. I've got two of his paintings still rolled up in my closet, LOL.Me too. Hahahah. I left one of his rolled up paintings in my room in New Garden. Did you ever open it and see whats in there?
I think the light skinned bald guy is Ramon, hustler to the core. There is another shorter curly haired guy (Eduardo or something like that) who's a little more decent. He took me on a tour to Charamaicos and showed me where some of the girls stay, some 3 per tiny room with shared dingy bathrooms. Not all were like that some had their own rooms with attached bathrooms (the more popular ones).
Help I agree with you that they only charge $1 no matter what, all over South America and the Caribbean they only charged me $1 BUT I remember I did an experiment where I used my ETRADE Card and PayPal card at the same time and took out the same amount. When I got home and looked at it online, it seemed like PayPal gave me a shittier exchange rate.So Paypal does make back some of the money for the cheap $1 ATM usage fee. Like I posted, banks are very good at hiding such charges and one would never know it until experiments like the one you did are carried through. I learned this via similar tests I did years ago as well.
So Paypal skims off the exchange rate too. Why am I not surprised.
Bottom line is the charge is $1 + additional skim off the exchange rate.
Thought it would be interesting to hear of some of the unique characters you've run across in Sosua. I'm not talking, necessarily about just the chicas (they come and go) , but the other. Staples of the "community."I have only been to Sosua twice (just returned late last night, reports to follow) , so I don't know the long time characters, but how long has the "Pantie Man" and the "Magician" on the beach been around? The flaming Pantie Man has no business sense whatsoever. Every pair of panties goes for 100p, and there is no negotiations allowed. I asked him, how about 6 panties for 500p, or 3 for 250p; dude would not budge!
BTW, here is a picture of one of his pair of panties; pic was taken in Latino.145368
If you loose your ATM card what kind of service are you going to get to in order to get you back and running while you are still outside the USA?
If anybody has experience with this and a Paypal ATM I would like to hear it. If they treat you the same way as Paypal dispute customer service does I want no part of them.
On the other hand, here is a post from a person who holds a zero fee SchwabATM and how they were treated while in Argentina:
http://www.travelpunk.com/boards/travel-budget-money-matters-financial-talk/14834-best-international-atm-rate.html#post203045
FirstTimeGuy
01-27-11, 11:34
Jaososua,
Isn't cristals overpriced? From what I have been reading there are find chicas all over for way less then $100 US. I have also read that there are Cabanas for short stay in puerto plata since I can't go back to my AI. I know there probably won't be as many chicas in puerto plata as in sosua but I should still come across them without having to do the man tour correct?
Jaososua,
Isn't cristals overpriced? From what I have been reading there are find chicas all over for way less then $100 US. I have also read that there are Cabanas for short stay in puerto plata since I can't go back to my AI. I know there probably won't be as many chicas in puerto plata as in sosua but I should still come across them without having to do the man tour correct?I don't know whether you speak Spanish. There are bars in Puerto Plata City that have less expensive chicas than Crystals. I have read that those bars can be hit or miss. Cabanas are short term room rentals, usually for 4 hours, prices vary at Cabanas. I have seen Cabanas advertise for 99 pesos. Nicer rooms at a better Cabana usually the rate is $20 US and up.
If you don't have a rental car, you will have to pay car taxis or take motoconchos (125cc motorcycle taxis).
As a newbie who may not speak Spanish, Crystals and El Bohen are probably the two easiest places, close to the All Inclusive Hotels located at Costa Dorada and Playa Dorada.
I visited Crystals, but I didn't take out. To me it was worth it to visit, to see the chicas they had. $100 US is about 3600 pesos. The cheapest short term price for p4p that you might be able to find is 500 pesos (about $13US). Usually a 500 peso chica will not be very attractive. Average short term price is about 1500 pesos. On a first time visit to Puerto Plata City, whether you can find an attractive chica for 1000-1500 pesos on your own, I don't know. Puerto Plata is a busy city. Driving around in a taxi to different bars and then to a cabana will cost you. Traveling around on a motorcycle taxi will cost you less, but it is not the most comfortable way to get around.
If you have a sense of adventure and don't mind the lack of certain niceties, then head off into Puerto Plata City in search of inexpensive p4p. Charles Pooter, the Man Tour Guy and other guys in the Puerto Plata thread have given the names of bars in Puerto Plata, where less expensive chicas can be found.
I don't know Puerto Plata that well to give you more precise info. When you get to Sosua the pay for play scene is much easier.
Twice Divorced
01-27-11, 13:28
With almost 70 ATM transactions in the Dominican Republic, spread out fairly evenly over the last three years, the fee on my debit card has always been US$1. 00 per ATM transaction.
-Helpmann. Well forgive me for noting the discrepancy between what you claimed and what was posted on Paypal's website. LOL.
As far as leading a horse is concerned, well, never mind.
Twice Divorced
01-27-11, 13:32
Jaososua,
Isn't cristals overpriced? From what I have been reading there are find chicas all over for way less then $100 US. I have also read that there are Cabanas for short stay in puerto plata since I can't go back to my AI. I know there probably won't be as many chicas in puerto plata as in sosua but I should still come across them without having to do the man tour correct? There are far more chicas in Puerto Plata than there are in Sosua. They just aren't all crammed onto one street, and tend to take a bit of nurturing.
There are far more chicas in Puerto Plata than there are in Sosua. They just aren't all crammed onto one street, and tend to take a bit of nurturing.Any suggestions on where to go to help FirstTimeGuy out?
Ok, I am a little confused (but don't worry. I am not too bright and I confuse easy).
I just booked a trip for the beginning of April. Since I am a newbie at this, and have never been to Sosua before and don't know what I missed (ignorance is bliss?) , I am having a hard time determining if I made a mistake or not. I speak no spanish and I am not a hardcore monger. I am going solo so no wingman either. So you are confused and not too bright? Well join the crowd. LOL.
I think you will have a good time so relax and enjoy yourself. Do as you plan, relax in the sun and surf at the AI and take a few road trips for the chicas. You will get a lot of info here but you need to sort out what is best for you. As a rep dom newbie doing certain things will be a lot harder for you than a DR vet.
First off I would PM Sir Charles who lives in the Puerto Plata area full time. Sir Charles is always willing to help guys out. Second thing is the Man Tour. I have no personal experience with the Man Tour and probably never will. In your case the Man Tour may be ideal for you. Sure the Man Tour charges a fee but it may be well worth it. You might want to either hook up with Sir Charles or the Man Tour your first time away from the AI.
Sir Charles, if he is available can show you the Puerto Plata scene and get the Man Tour to show you Sosua.
Charles Pooter
01-27-11, 14:10
The flaming Pantie Man has no business sense whatsoever. Every pair of panties goes for 100p, and there is no negotiations allowed. I asked him, how about 6 panties for 500p, or 3 for 250p; dude would not budge!This is not peculiar to him. Quantity discounts are almost unknown in the DR. Check out the prices in the supermarket for various sizes. You will be usually find that you pay double (and sometimes more than double) for double the size.
I think that this derives from the historical unreliablility of supply. They are not interested in making a quick buck at reduced profit because they don't know when they will get new stock.
My friend was let down by the wholesaler on refrescos for a large party so we went to the local colmado. He wanted to buy six crates, probably as much as they normally sold in a week but they wouldn't give him any discount. Not only that but they only had four crates and would only sell him three of them "otherwise we won't have any stock left for our regular customers".
Another factor is that many of these people are deeply innumerate. Haven't you noticed how they use calculators for simple calculations (like 5 times 20 pesos) which a five-year-old could do in their head in the US or UK? They can learn the various product prices off by heart but if you suggest a "deal" they are worried you are trying to scam them. After all, a fellow Dominican would!
Twice Divorced
01-27-11, 14:38
Any suggestions on where to go to help FirstTimeGuy out?Unfortunately, my suggestions wouldn't work for an infrequent or short time visitor. I generally don't go to bars or clubs to pick up chicas, although I have met them on occasion while at those locations.
In my early days I did the whole Sosua trip, and got bored pretty quickly with that whole scene and the hardness and bullshit associated with the chicas.
I spend ALOT of time in Puerto Plata (spent about 22 of the past 30 months in POP) and tend to meet chicas such as a desk rep at Claro, waitresses at various restaurants, a bank teller, cashiers at supermarkets. I've hooked up with chicas from a few of the casetas on the malecon while just going down to chill and have a couple of beers. Been invited to cookouts at "the river" and took chicas home afterwards. So, for me, I meet chicas just during the normal course of a day.
..............In my early days I did the whole Sosua trip, and got bored pretty quickly with that whole scene and the hardness and bullshit associated with the chicas..................That's the funny thing about Sosua and BB. You have guys like you and I who don't want any parts of Sosua and on the other hand there are plenty of guys who just can't get enough of Sosua.
Also I know most people have said the best way to set up a threesome is to pick one chica and let her pick the other. I am looking for a full threesome where they play with each other also. How do I know if they are going to be into one another or if the one chica I pick is just trying to hook up her friend with a payday?Yes, the problem is that if you find one chica who will do it and allow her to pick another chica, then from her perspective it is more a question of getting some money for a friend and not really a sexual thing. Or they will do just enough to get you aroused and then switch to getting you off quickly, taking the money, and running. Threesomes in which the girls are not sexually into it are invariably perfunctory and disappointing.
I have had a few threesomes and a couple have been really good. In one both the girls were already lovers and I had already had sex with both of them 2 or three times each before, so the three of us had a good relationship together. We had a lot of laughing and fun and the threesome was very relaxed with everyone doing everyone else. The other one that was good was when I was with a novia and we got two girls for a foursome and I did one while the other one did my novia. Wouldn't mind doing that again.
I think the key is to find one girl who really likes doing other girls and gets off sexually on it. Then get her to pick other girls she would like to do.
Most Dominicanas don't want to be known as lesbianas, so they will often refuse publicly to do a lesbian scene, especially with a woman they know who would talk about it. On the other hand, in private, they will often cooperate if they think the news won't get out. It is great fun to see a girl who doesn't have lesbian experience getting highly aroused by another woman's touch.
Warning: If you are not experienced you may end up getting a threesome where both chicas will have sex with you, but won't do anything with each other. If you want to negotiate a lesbian threesome, you must indicate very early in negotiations that you are looking only for a lesbian scene and not interested in straight sex. Tell them straight sex is boring and you want to see two girls making love to each other. One thing to try is when you are at the flirting stages and she is trying to seduce you, whisper in her ear and ask her if she likes sex with girls. Some will immediately recoil, but if they show an interest, then you might be on to something.
Bottom line: Can be great, but very difficult to pull off successfully.
Charles Pooter
01-27-11, 15:55
Bottom line: Can be great, but very difficult to pull off successfully.I agree with Frannie. Best chances for a successful threesome are at Passions or Blackbeards where "teams" are already established. Otherwise I would say you will be disappointed nine times out of ten.
My motto for threesomes in the DR is "double the cost, half the fun". And there are the much greater security risks to bear in mind also. They can make it hard for you to watch what they are both up to all the time.
I have had just two good threesomes in over five years visiting and living in the DR.
If you want threesomes go to Russia or former USSR countries where it is a well-established tradition.
With almost 70 ATM transactions in the Dominican Republic, spread out fairly evenly over the last three years, the fee on my debit card has always been US$1. 00 per ATM transaction.
Helpmann.About 5 times cheaper than what I am paying JPMorgan Chase for an overseas ATM transaction. Thanks guys for posting the info about paypal.
Unfortunately, my suggestions wouldn't work for an infrequent or short time visitor. I generally don't go to bars or clubs to pick up chicas, although I have met them on occasion while at those locations.
In my early days I did the whole Sosua trip, and got bored pretty quickly with that whole scene and the hardness and bullshit associated with the chicas.
I spend ALOT of time in Puerto Plata (spent about 22 of the past 30 months in POP) and tend to meet chicas such as a desk rep at Claro, waitresses at various restaurants, a bank teller, cashiers at supermarkets. I've hooked up with chicas from a few of the casetas on the malecon while just going down to chill and have a couple of beers. Been invited to cookouts at "the river" and took chicas home afterwards. So, for me, I meet chicas just during the normal course of a day. Nice.
Do you have any favorite lines that you use with non-pro chicas you may meet in the supermarket or at the claro counter?
Something like: "Quiero tomar un cafe contigo"= I want to take a coffee with you. Or "Quieres un traigo conmigo?"=Do you want a drink with me?
Refresco is soda, bedidas=drinks, traigos=drinks.
Some chicas will respond that they don't drink alcohol. So coffee or un jugo (juice) can be offered.
"I want to invite you for a drink or for dinner", I don't know the proper translation, something like "invito por un cenar (dinner)"
Anyone with good pick up lines in Spanish? I would like to learn them.
Coolie High
01-27-11, 17:07
Fannie and Mr. Gogo good advice on a true 3some. Quick question. Would it be easier to go online and go to one of these DR relationship websites like dominician Cupid and basically let the ladies know that your looking for a bi-female that loves to play with other females or is it better to just try and find one on the ground live and in person.
Not going to lie I really want a true 3some to happen this time around
Twice Divorced
01-27-11, 17:19
That's the funny thing about Sosua and BB. You have guys like you and I who don't want any parts of Sosua and on the other hand there are plenty of guys who just can't get enough of Sosua.Absolutely. There really is something for everyone in the DR, and if they spend enough time there eventually everybody finds their niche.
I agree with Frannie. Best chances for a successful threesome are at Passions or Blackbeards where "teams" are already established. Otherwise I would say you will be disappointed nine times out of ten.
My motto for threesomes in the DR is "double the cost, half the fun". And there are the much greater security risks to bear in mind also. They can make it hard for you to watch what they are both up to all the time.
I have had just two good threesomes in over five years visiting and living in the DR.
If you want threesomes go to Russia or former USSR countries where it is a well-established tradition. Yes, I agree that you may get a better threesome at Blackbeards or Passions. This is because the girls there are from all over the island and living away from home, so they don't have the same problem of everyone knowing their business as the local girls in Sosua.
But here is another tip. If you ask around for a girl who likes to go with girls in Sosua, you may not get any takers right away. But don't be surprised if the next day some girl comes up to you and says that she has heard you like lesbian scenes and offers her services. This is because most of the girls talk about each other and about the mongers discussing what they like sexually, how much they pay, how well they tip, and everything else. So maybe a girl who you didn't notice at first decides she needs the money and will have a shot at it.
Twice Divorced
01-27-11, 18:40
Nice.
Do you have any favorite lines that you use with non-pro chicas you may meet in the supermarket or at the claro counter?
Something like: "Quiero tomar un cafe contigo"= I want to take a coffee with you. Or "Quieres un traigo conmigo?"=Do you want a drink with me?
Refresco is soda, bedidas=drinks, traigos=drinks.
Some chicas will respond that they don't drink alcohol. So coffee or un jugo (juice) can be offered.
"I want to invite you for a drink or for dinner", I don't know the proper translation, something like "invito por un cenar (dinner)"
Anyone with good pick up lines in Spanish? I would like to learn them. These seem odd questions coming from somebody who often advises others, but I guess I'll play along.
My "pick up" line (Christ, I sound like a kid) for the Claro counter woman was fairly simple. I had a brother who had decided to stay in PP for a year. He, myself, and a local friend went to Claro to get my brother set up with a phone. My brother, who has no patience whatsoever, started to get a little nasty with the woman who was helping him. I saw what I thought would be an opportunity to teach him a little lesson in patience, really. When the woman handed him the receipt to show him what the phone was going to cost I took the receipt, studied it for a bit, and then told her in what little spanish I had, that there was a problem. She asked me what the problem was and I told her that it didn't include her phone number. By this time my Dominican buddy was translating. She asked me why it should, and I asked her why not. She walked away and returned with my brothers phone, handed him his receipt, and handed me a seperate piece of paper with her phone number on it. True story.
No real need for "lines". Many times simple honesty works like magic. I've been to LaSirena often. After they opened there was a particular chica I had noticed who I decided I would like to get with. During my first several visits I always made sure I got in her line and would talk nicely and joke with her, with my buddy translating, of course. One of the benefits with having him translate is that the chicas then realize I'm a foreigner, and not a local, which tends to spike their interest. After several visits I asked my friend to ask her if she had a boyfriend or husband, to which she answered no. (You never really know). So, I told her I thought she was beautiful and that I'd like to take her out. To make a long story short, we ended up hooking up and she turned out to be one of the better chicas I've met there.
So, you see, for the guys who may want others, particularly the newbies, to believe that there is some sort of exotic formula for picking up women, sometimes there is, and sometimes there isn't. Sometimes it's as simple as recognizing an opportunity, capitalizing on it, and simply asking "can I have your phone number?"
My "pick up" line (Christ, I sound like a kid) for the Claro counter woman ... When the woman handed (my brother) the receipt to show him what the phone was going to cost I took the receipt, studied it for a bit, and then told her in what little spanish I had, that there was a problem. She asked me what the problem was and I told her that it didn't include her phone number. By this time my Dominican buddy was translating. She asked me why it should, and I asked her why not. She walked away and returned with my brothers phone, handed him his receipt, and handed me a seperate piece of paper with her phone number on it.Perfect! And delightful! And, frankly, obvious when we stop thinking like mongers and "artists" - and just approach the cute salesgirl with the attitude of "I'd like to have a coffee break with her, or take her out for drinks or maybe even supper, and we'll just see if something might click."
As a frankly "newbie" monger, I will probably get nothing but a hard-core puta. As a "hard-core" monger, I may get better service, but I'm still going to get a puta. TD showed up at the Claro counter as "a regular guy" who wanted to take "a regular girl" out for "a regular date," and I would bet he had a good time even if she didn't "ride his painted pony" on the Midnight Trampoline that night.
Twice Divorced
01-27-11, 18:55
So, you see, for the guys who may want others, particularly the newbies, to believe that there is some sort of exotic formula for picking up women, sometimes there is, and sometimes there isn't. Sometimes it's as simple as recognizing an opportunity, capitalizing on it, and simply asking "can I have your phone number?"I guess if there was anything else I would offer as a suggestion it would be to be direct and upfront with the women. Not in an overly aggressive, immaure kind of way. But, to state what you think / feel, and look her directly in the eyes when you do it. Latinas like "strong" men.
There is a HUGE difference in the type of approach one can take."I want to fuck you" versus "I think you and I would make some beautiful babies" can make a world of difference.
...Anyone with good pick up lines in Spanish? I would like to learn them.Interesting topic, but I am sure that you don't need any advice picking-up a regular girl in the capital.
The best pick-up line that I know is "Hola, como estas?," which is followed by 1-2 minutes of some flirty chit-chat and closes with "Pareces como una mujer buena. Puedo llamarte?"
For me, it's more about avoiding landmine words such as "Boca Chica" and "Sosua" as well as having a solid story for the reasons why I am in the Dominican Republic (business, wedding, visiting friends and family) and keeping the flirty chit-chat fresh and unrehearsed.
-Helpmann :)
... When the woman handed him the receipt to show him what the phone was going to cost I took the receipt, studied it for a bit, and then told her in what little spanish I had, that there was a problem. She asked me what the problem was and I told her that it didn't include her phone number. By this time my Dominican buddy was translating. She asked me why it should, and I asked her why not. She walked away and returned with my brothers phone, handed him his receipt, and handed me a seperate piece of paper with her phone number on it...Classic, I like that, I will use it.
Useful to have a Dominican cell phone. I have asked chicas for their phone number and if they say yes, I have handed a few chicas my DR cell phone for them to enter their name and phone number into my cell, the chicas are usually proficient at typing in their info on a cell phone (just be careful that you don't give your cell phone to a snoopy DR chica who looks to see the call log or the text messages, but there are apps that will password protect the text messages, contact list, photos etc.).
Interesting topic, but I am sure that you don't need any advice picking-up a regular girl in the capital.
The best pick-up line that I know is "Hola, como estas," which is followed by 1-2 minutes of some flirty chit-chat and closes with "Pareces como una mujer buena. Puedo llamarte?"
For me, it's more about avoiding landmine words such as "Boca Chica" and "Sosua" as well as having a solid story for the reasons why I am in the Dominican Republic (business, wedding, visiting friends and family) and keeping the flirty chit-chat fresh and unrehearsed.
-Helpmann. Pareces como una mujer buena = You look like a good woman. Puedo llamarte (pway-doe ya-mar-tay) =can I call you.
Easy, simple and effective, Thanks
Charles Pooter
01-27-11, 21:52
There is a HUGE difference in the type of approach one can take."I want to fuck you" versus "I think you and I would make some beautiful babies" can make a world of difference.Totally agree. For the first you will probably need condoms, for the second, not so much.
Twice Divorced
01-27-11, 22:26
As a frankly "newbie" monger, I will probably get nothing but a hard-core puta. As a "hard-core" monger, I may get better service, but I'm still going to get a puta. TD showed up at the Claro counter as "a regular guy" who wanted to take "a regular girl" out for "a regular date," and I would bet he had a good time even if she didn't "ride his painted pony" on the Midnight Trampoline that night.Hell, even I monger. There are times when all I want is sex and am not in the mood to "chase" it. But what's funny is that I have been with many a puta who have declared that they are not putas, while busy filling their mouths with my the*k and their purses with my money. What you truly don't want to do is to treat a regular chica with your comments and mannerisms like you would a Sosua street puta, although "un regalo" after the deed is always appreciated. LOL.
Twice Divorced
01-27-11, 22:30
Totally agree. For the first you will probably need condoms, for the second, not so much.Not quite what I had in mind, but okay.
FirstTimeGuy
01-27-11, 22:50
Thanks for all the info guys. I think what I may do is instead of spending a few nights in sosua, spend one night in sosua and one night at BB's (for the threesome).
I will probably post more as the time gets closer to see who will be around when I am there.
And just let me add if it wasnt for this board I would have been completely lost on my trip.
Pareces como una mujer buena = You look like a good woman. Puedo llamarte (pway-doe ya-mar-tay) =can I call you.
Easy, simple and effective, ThanksLOL nice man. I like the annunciation lesson. Your like a mongering rosetta stone
I guess if there was anything else I would offer as a suggestion it would be to be direct and upfront with the women. Not in an overly aggressive, immaure kind of way. But, to state what you think / feel, and look her directly in the eyes when you do it. Latinas like "strong" men.
There is a HUGE difference in the type of approach one can take."I want to fuck you" versus "I think you and I would make some beautiful babies" can make a world of difference. Who would of thought these mature hardcore mongers would get the same advice he dished out to his own 16yo boy. .
LOL nice man. I like the annunciation lesson. Your like a mongering rosetta stoneIt can be intimidating speaking Spanish. Some Dominican chicas don't make it easy, some look at me like I have two heads when I speak Spanish sometimes. If you know a few verbs you can communicate a lot.
Quiero (key-air-0) = I want, Quieres (key-air-es) = you want?
Tengo= I have, tienes (tea-en-es) = you have.
All DR mongers need to know, Cuanto=how much
Ok. Here is mine, but you only get one.
Hola me amor. . . Dime. . . Que tipo do beso prefieres cuando un hombre de siete millon de dolares esta tocando en la puerta de tu casa? Y luego, después del beso, yo iré de buscar el hombre de 7 millon.
(The prices comes down if you make them laugh)
Twice Divorced
01-28-11, 04:20
Who would of thought these mature hardcore mongers would get the same advice he dished out to his own 16yo boy. .It never ceases to amaze me how the egos of some of you "international players" gets bruised so easily.
It never ceases to amaze me how the egos of some of you "international players" gets bruised so easily.Don't be so self sensitive.
I actually think it is pretty funny.
Hola como esta bonita me llamo "your name" me gusta usted mucho. Tu pelo es muy suave why me quiero para tocar tu pelo cuando me hacer amor del usted. Venir para me casa / hotele why hacer amor conmigo hasta la sol esta venir arriba.
Me no tienes mucho dinero pero me ahora pero me buscar para una novia why me tegusta why quiero ser contigo.
Its good stuff "how are you beautiful. My name is. I like you alot. Your hair is very soft and I want to rub it when I make love to you. Come to my hotel and make love with me until the sun come up.
I don't have alot of money but I like you and want to be with you.
Grand Pollo
01-29-11, 02:27
Hola como esta bonita me llamo "your name" me gusta usted mucho. Tu pelo es muy suave why me quiero para tocar tu pelo cuando me hacer amor del usted. Venir para me casa / hotele why hacer amor conmigo hasta la sol esta venir arriba.
Me no tienes mucho dinero pero me ahora pero me buscar para una novia why me tegusta why quiero ser contigo.
Its good stuff "how are you beautiful. My name is. I like you alot. Your hair is very soft and I want to rub it when I make love to you. Come to my hotel and make love with me until the sun come up.
I don't have alot of money but I like you and want to be with you. This is terrible Spanish that sounds like someone used Google translate or a machine to say it. Here are some tips: If you cannot speak Spanish don't fake it. Keep a tiny amount of friendly chat , hola, como estas, eres bonita, etc. and make it clear that's it.
You don't know how to use object pronouns or how to use the verb gustar and unless a girl is older than you there is little need to use usted which is a formal form of you that would not be used vs. Tu.
Here's what you said, note there is no punctuation, commas, periods, nothing just a great big run on sentence. You will sound like a fool to a girl and she won't appreciate your trying since it sounds so "written down"
Hello, how are you (formal you) pretty I am (your name) to me you are you are pleasing a lot. Your hair is smooth (why in English) to me I want to for to touch your hair when to me to make love from you (formal). To come my house hotel (spelled wrong) why (English) to make amor with me until the sun is to come up.
To me I don't have much money but to me now but to me to look for for a girlfriend why (English) to me you like (something not said) I want to be (permanent form of to be) with you.
Try this and lessons:
Hola! Como estas? Me llamo Joe (George, Al whatever). Me gustas mucho. Tu pelo es tan bonita y suave y quiero tocarlo cuando hacemos amor. Ven a mi a mi casa / hotel y vamos a hacer amor hasta el sol viene manana.
No tengo mucho dinero pero me gustas y quiero estar contigo.
So you have Hi! How are you? I am Joe. I like you a lot. Your hair is beautiful and smooth and I want to touch it when we make love. Come to me to my house/hotel and we will make love until the sun comes tomorrow.
I don't have much money but I like you and want to be with you.
Two recurring things in ISG. Bad and dangerous medical advice for STD's and food poisoning and spoon feeding bad Spanish that will embarrass someone who tries it.
When you use gustar it is like a backwards verb. You don't like something, something is pleasing to you.
Me gustas = to me you are pleasing. Te gusto = to you I am pleasing.
You have infinitive forms of verbs used where they'd be conjugated. You don't need para where it is used as it means "in order to" so: Compre un coche para ir y regresar a mi trabajo. I bought a car in order to go and return from my job. Use of object pronouns like me quiero you are saying to me I want. If you mean yo quiero or I want, you don't normally use a pronoun (yo = I) with a conjugated verb (quiero) as quiero means I want already.
The word "why" which maybe was "y" means "and" in English. And pronounced ee not why if that's what you were trying.
Spanish is pretty easy to learn - unlike English they have all the verbs conjugated so they don't need to say like we do I or You or We since the form of the verb is clear. But they use a set of basic rules so if you learn the rules you can apply them to most verbs so it's a wash with English.
Learn about 30 main verbs and about 500 nouns and you can do AMAZINGLY well with Spanish speaking girls and this time they WILL be impressed.
great advise coolie, i speak for everyone when i say were awaiting your next visit and report. and yes everyone should still go to sosua because it is still excting in a different way.
as far as conficting reports go, everyone sees things differently because we are not the same. the "new sosua' vs the "old sosua" is like this for me. suppose you haven't been to mcdonalds in a few months, and decide you want a big mac. so you go to mcdonalds and look up at the menu and all you see is "hamburger for 69 cents" nothing else. you're hungry so you order two hamburgers but while your eating you remember the day when you could have fries, apple pie and a drink. but for someone who has never been to mcdonalds that hambuger is great.
the three way is a little trickier. most dominicanas don't want to share your deniro with other girls especially if its a gfe. but the days of gfe are over in sosua unless you have previous regulars. before you could walk your date to the beach for an afternoon or just hold hands walking around sosua. before there were so many girls that they had to lock in to secure a good thing. tln was on the menu in the old days. now the main course is st. the girls want to get paid fast and move on to the next quickie. alot of women that travel in pairs will usually do 3ways, but the sex usually is mechanical. the santiago sisters are a prime example. they offer sex 3ways but are going to make it quick (don't tell jao and bq) and business like. if i was you i would find a girl that has a girlfriend. tell her your a voyeour and just want to watch. specify a two hour time limit with them kissing, hunging, rubbing, sucking etc. grab a drink for the party, sit in a chair facing the bed and let them do what comes natural. once they are into it and know your not going to jump them, sit back and enjoy the show. if you prefer you can jack off and watch their reaction. if your real smooth go to the bed with a hard dick and red 1000peso notes held over up over your head in different hands. expect to get gang tackled and raped. too funny lol.
Me no tienes mucho dinero pero me ahora pero me buscar para una noviaI like that, if a chica goes with a guy after the guys has told her that he doesn't have much money, that is a good sign.
Thanks
There is probably an auto correction feature on this new ISG software. The word for AND in Spanish is the letter that comes before the letter Z (xYz). When that letter that comes before Z is typed in a post the auto correction changes it to the word "why". (x"Y"z)
Using the Spanish word for you, TE, sometimes confuses me. Te amo means I love you. Te gusta means "Do you like?". Confusing to me that that use of TE with a verb can denote something very different. In English, You love? You like? The meaning is similar. In Spanish, Te Amo is I love you and Te Gusta is You like. I guess to say do you love me? Is "Me Amas?"
Bad and dangerous medical advice I have not seen in the Dominican Republic board.
I know guys who may Monger in a Latin American country once every few years. Oftentimes those guys will read the ISG before a trip. Usually those guys will not have a great desire to learn much Spanish. If they know at least a few words it will be useful for them. Quiero sexo oral (I want oral sex). Quieres un cervesa? (Do you want a beer?) Tengo condons (I have condoms). Tienes boca sexi (You have a sexy mouth).
I agree with you, learn some verbs and communication becomes much easier in Spanish.
This is terrible Spanish that sounds like someone used Google translate or a machine to say it. Here are some tips: If you cannot speak Spanish don't fake it. Keep a tiny amount of friendly chat, hola, como estas, eres bonita, etc. And make it clear that's it.
You don't know how to use object pronouns or how to use the verb gustar and unless a girl is older than you there is little need to use usted which is a formal form of you that would not be used vs. Tu.
Here's what you said, note there is no punctuation, commas, periods, nothing just a great big run on sentence. You will sound like a fool to a girl and she won't appreciate your trying since it sounds so "written down"
Hello, how are you (formal you) pretty I am (your name) to me you are you are pleasing a lot. Your hair is smooth (why in English) to me I want to for to touch your hair when to me to make love from you (formal). To come my house hotel (spelled wrong) why (English) to make amor with me until the sun is to come up.
To me I don't have much money but to me now but to me to look for for a girlfriend why (English) to me you like (something not said) I want to be (permanent form of to be) with you.
Try this and lessons:
Hola! Como estas? Me llamo Joe (George, Al whatever). Me gustas mucho. Tu pelo es tan bonita why suave why quiero tocarlo cuando hacemos amor. Ven a mi a mi casa / hotel why vamos a hacer amor hasta el sol viene manana.
No tengo mucho dinero pero me gustas why quiero estar contigo.
So you have Hi! How are you? I am Joe. I like you a lot. Your hair is beautiful and smooth and I want to touch it when we make love. Come to me to my house / hotel and we will make love until the sun comes tomorrow.
I don't have much money but I like you and want to be with you.
Two recurring things in ISG. Bad and dangerous medical advice for STD's and food poisoning and spoon feeding bad Spanish that will embarrass someone who tries it.
When you use gustar it is like a backwards verb. You don't like something, something is pleasing to you.
Me gustas = to me you are pleasing. Te gusto = to you I am pleasing.
You have infinitive forms of verbs used where they'd be conjugated. You don't need para where it is used as it means "in order to" so: Compre un coche para ir why regresar a mi trabajo. I bought a car in order to go and return from my job. Use of object pronouns like me quiero you are saying to me I want. If you mean yo quiero or I want, you don't normally use a pronoun (yo = I) with a conjugated verb (quiero) as quiero means I want already.
The word "why" which maybe was "why" means "and" in English. And pronounced ee not why if that's what you were trying.
Spanish is pretty easy to learn. Unlike English they have all the verbs conjugated so they don't need to say like we do I or You or We since the form of the verb is clear. But they use a set of basic rules so if you learn the rules you can apply them to most verbs so it's a wash with English.
Learn about 30 main verbs and about 500 nouns and you can do AMAZINGLY well with Spanish speaking girls and this time they WILL be impressed.
Hotel: Stayed at the New Garden once again and got the ISG cash discount rate. Still a decent selection of women hanging out by the bar and pool. Ran smack-dabbed into Marlene, she is half of the M&M team I was with in November; Maria was UA. Hooked-up with Marlene twice during my short stay. The NG staff was just as excellent as the first time I stayed there in November; minus Wilfried, which met me at the airport and I saw on the beach the next few days. I asked Wilfried what happened at the NG, he replied,"Shit happens." Hats off to Rafael, the bartender, for making phone calls on his phone in order to call and translate my previous contacts for times for hook-ups. It took me only one day to train the housekeepers not to knock at my door before noon.
My worse incoherent quote to the nice lady that brought me coffee to my room everyday;"Just place the coffee over there, next to the condoms."
Massage and other pleasure zone places:
Belki's: Went to Belki's the first and last day in Sosua (because of recommendations on ISG). The first day Belki was not there; she was at home spending the holiday with family. A frizzy haired dark skinned girl yanked me in and told me it was 300p for 1/2 hour massage, and 600p for an hour. I was traveled out and went for the hour massage. She had great hands and I about pass-out during the massage. At the end, she asked about a blow or hand job, and I asked how much, and she replied 300 for BJ and 200 for HJ, and I did the combo for 300 (because it turned out to be a combo anyway). Her mouth was good, but her hand was better; so be it.
The last day, my flight was not until 4 (AA sucks BTW) , so I decided to seek out the lady that owned this place. I asked the frizzy haired dark skinned girl if Belki was there, and her said she was in the next room, the salon. I walked in the salon, and there were 3 ladies in the place and I asked,"Belki?" A woman with a big smile got up, came over, and gave me a soft kiss like she already knew me, and asked,"Massage?" I said,"Indeed, I'm looking for experience," which I don't think she understood. Belki had some of the best and strongest hands that I can ever remember. When she was done with me, my legs and other parts of my body were completely numb; she even helped me get dressed. She turned out to be one of the sweetest ladies that I ran across in years. When I left, she said,"You come back to see me." And I replied,"I promised I will", and I meant it!
CMP. Went there late Friday afternoon and it was at the tail end of a pool party. The inside was dead, and the outside ladies seemed to be already paired up with dudes at the tables. Juicy Lucy was not in sight, so I bailed and did not return.
La Passion. After I left CMP, I walked down to La Passion. I thought the place had a good selection of ladies and I decided to sit down next to one of the poles next to the bar (the poles always have action, IMHO). In a matter of no time, one hot lady took to the pole. Her mug was nothing to write home about, but her body, especially her ass was to die for. I have watched many women work a pole before, but the way this sweetie worked her ass in combination with the pole almost made me become religious,"almost" is the key word here. And yes, I was that impressed, I tipped her.
Clubs & Bars:
Merengue. I stopped there every night about 11 or so, and there were plenty of chicas available. There are no more tables on the sidewalk (it seemed only El Flow has them) , but a lot more women than I expected. I got attacked from behind, it turned out to be "Skinny" for the Chunky & Skinny duo in November. Chunky was not in town; no big lost, she about killed me the last trip anyway. Grabbed Skinny and headed up to Classico.
Classico. The place was packed by 11 and it seemed like the male to female ratio was equal. Skinny only drank and danced for an hour; then she headed home (so she said). I talked to a few of the girls I met there in November and they were all asking 2500p for short time; some, but not many would drop to 2000p. So in that regard, it seemed the market has changed since the early December melt down.
Latino. Even though the tall frizzy hair psycho stalking bartender (TFHPSB) was still working there, this place was once again my favorite. When she saw me for the first time, her big ass made a dash for me; I thought we would both drop and roll for sure; no problem, the big bouncer had my back. For some reason, TFHPSB thought we were a couple once again and I did my best to explain how friendships work. After a couple of nervous moments and a bunch of Hennessey; she calmed down and was, or seemed OK when I brought women in there to dance. The last night, I brought in little Dancer (contact from last trip) and the TFHPSB was very nice to her. But in walked Skinny, who turned out to be little Dancer's friend, and she joined us. Let's really try to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off the TFHPSB tonight, thus, in walked in two women I met at Herman's bar earlier that day at the beach, and then they joined us. OMG, I swore I saw steam come off TFHPSB's forehead. We all headed back to the dance club; just for safety's sake.
Tomjackin,
What's the ISG cash-discount rate at New Garden?
Grand pollo for one I type that whole post after work two continuous 16 hour shifts at work before we were snowed in on the east coast. When I finally made it I home. I checked ISG with no sleep in days and typed that giberish. When I woke up this morning I noticed all the mistakes and the moderator replacing words with why. Or something. And yes it was a continuous sentence. Just wanted to help. LOL.
And if I used google it wouldve been proper right? I have no issues communicating with ladies or local when in the Dr so please. Spare me the insults.
I didn't learn spanish in a school or from an instructor but from people I know and a book and everything I type is a run on sentence it a sex forum not a thesis for a nuclear science project. Let it go. I'm offended that we wasted precious time giving spanish lesson when we ouldve been giving helpful tips on sosua.
I'm arriving in 2 weeks where is the support or advice?
Tomjackin,
What's the ISG cash-discount rate at New Garden? The ISG cash discount rate are for members on this board, and the rate is cheaper than the discounted cash rate quoted on their Web site.
For example:
The regular rate (credit card) for a room in the new wing is $80, but the cash rate is $74. However, the ISG cash rate was $67. When I had the jacuzzi room in November, the regular rate was $90, cash rate was $84, but the ISG cash rate was $72.
SavePros321
01-29-11, 12:50
"Just place the coffee over there, next to the condoms."Now that's Hollywood material! Don't be surprised if that line ends up in a movie or television show, LOL!
Excellent trip report Sir Jackin, and thanks!
There is probably an auto correction feature on this new ISG software. The word for AND in Spanish is the letter that comes before the letter Z (xYz). When that letter that comes before Z is typed in a post the auto correction changes it to the word "why". (x"Y"z)Jao, I've corresponded with Jackson about this auto correction feature - I find it irritating, but he finds the myriad mistakes in our posts even more irritating. I see his point - I have to put up with the "corrections" only when I post something; but without auto-correction, he'd have to spend all day correcting the blunders of people who can't spell, type, or construct a sentence.
The auto-correction check only applies to "Add Report," and you can fix its unwanted "corrections" by editing the post immediately after you post it. That's when you go back and correct "Romeo why Julieta" into "Romeo y Julieta," for example.
Jao, I've corresponded with Jackson about this auto correction feature. I find it irritating, but he finds the myriad mistakes in our posts even more irritating. I see his point. I have to put up with the "corrections" only when I post something; but without auto-correction, he'd have to spend all day correcting the blunders of people who can't spell, type, or construct a sentence.
The auto-correction check only applies to "Add Report," and you can fix its unwanted "corrections" by editing the post immediately after you post it. That's when you go back and correct "Romeo why Julieta" into "Romeo why Julieta," for example. Thanks, it really doesn't bother me, just a heads up so that other people don't think what we are writing is gibberish. I used to be able to edit my posts, but that option seems to be no longer available for me (maybe you are only allowed to edit a certain number of your posts).
Jao, I've corresponded with Jackson about this auto correction feature - I find it irritating,........
Thanks, it really doesn't bother me,.........I never paid attention to mistakes which could have been caused by auto correction. I just assumed the poster hit the wrong key, I do it all the time.
What I find irritating are when posts from certain posters get delayed being posted in the thread. I have seen posts get delayed by six hours or more. If you are reading a thread and don't get email notification you can very easily miss quite a few posts.
Example: Poster XYZ submits a post at 12 noon. Let's say between 12 noon and 6pm there are six more posts in that thread. Now at 6pm the post submitted by poster XYZ gets posted in the thread but it will get posted six posts down in the 12 noon submittal position. If you aren't in a habit of scrolling down you will miss that post.
I would not have a problem with this if the posts being delayed were from posters with a history of being trouble makers but this is not the case.
Thanks, it really doesn't bother me, just a heads up so that other people don't think what we are writing is gibberish. I used to be able to edit my posts, but that option seems to be no longer available for me (maybe you are only allowed to edit a certain number of your posts).For those who are bothered by auto-correction, you have to edit the affected post right away. I think you have an hour or so to get it fixed.
Sorry, this is off-topic. How were things in So-Sewer last night? Think it'll be settled out by June?
Like the idea of the 2 mil in your shoe, never know when you might be kidnapped!Skilled kidnappers, who do this for a living, will remove your footwear first thing as it makes it difficult for you to walk should you actually manage to escape from them after they busted you up and duct taped the shit out of you legs, arms, eyes, and mouth. Got to love that duct tape. Also, try running through the campo in bare feet. Really hurts. On the other hand if their methodology includes the long death March through the jungle to their base camp / safe house, you might have a point. Assuming of course your physically fit and think you can evade your captors, all hungry and dehydrated, etc. How do I know you ask? I read about it in a book someplace. Ya, a book.
Blk Big Bootyluv
01-30-11, 08:13
Nice read thanks.
Now, is this massage place next door to the Italian Spaghetti joint on PC? Or across the street from Baileys restaurant next to the junk souvenirs shops?
Hotel: Stayed at the New Garden once again and got the ISG cash discount rate. Still a decent selection of women hanging out by the bar and pool. Ran smack-dabbed into Marlene, she is half of the M&M team I was with in November; Maria was UA. Hooked-up with Marlene twice during my short stay. The NG staff was just as excellent as the first time I stayed there in November; minus Wilfried, which met me at the airport and I saw on the beach the next few days. I asked Wilfried what happened at the NG, he replied,"Shit happens." Hats off to Rafael, the bartender, for making phone calls on his phone in order to call and translate my previous contacts for times for hook-ups. It took me only one day to train the housekeepers not to knock at my door before noon.
My worse incoherent quote to the nice lady that brought me coffee to my room everyday;"Just place the coffee over there, next to the condoms."
Massage and other pleasure zone places:
Belki's: Went to Belki's the first and last day in Sosua (because of recommendations on ISG). The first day Belki was not there; she was at home spending the holiday with family. A frizzy haired dark skinned girl yanked me in and told me it was 300p for 1/2 hour massage, and 600p for an hour. I was traveled out and went for the hour massage. She had great hands and I about pass-out during the massage. At the end, she asked about a blow or hand job, and I asked how much, and she replied 300 for BJ and 200 for HJ, and I did the combo for 300 (because it turned out to be a combo anyway). Her mouth was good, but her hand was better; so be it.
The last day, my flight was not until 4 (AA sucks BTW) , so I decided to seek out the lady that owned this place. I asked the frizzy haired dark skinned girl if Belki was there, and her said she was in the next room, the salon. I walked in the salon, and there were 3 ladies in the place and I asked,"Belki?" A woman with a big smile got up, came over, and gave me a soft kiss like she already knew me, and asked,"Massage?" I said,"Indeed, I'm looking for experience," which I don't think she understood. Belki had some of the best and strongest hands that I can ever remember. When she was done with me, my legs and other parts of my body were completely numb; she even helped me get dressed. She turned out to be one of the sweetest ladies that I ran across in years. When I left, she said,"You come back to see me." And I replied,"I promised I will", and I meant it!
CMP. Went there late Friday afternoon and it was at the tail end of a pool party. The inside was dead, and the outside ladies seemed to be already paired up with dudes at the tables. Juicy Lucy was not in sight, so I bailed and did not return.
La Passion. After I left CMP, I walked down to La Passion. I thought the place had a good selection of ladies and I decided to sit down next to one of the poles next to the bar (the poles always have action, IMHO). In a matter of no time, one hot lady took to the pole. Her mug was nothing to write home about, but her body, especially her ass was to die for. I have watched many women work a pole before, but the way this sweetie worked her ass in combination with the pole almost made me become religious,"almost" is the key word here. And yes, I was that impressed, I tipped her.
Clubs & Bars:
Merengue. I stopped there every night about 11 or so, and there were plenty of chicas available. There are no more tables on the sidewalk (it seemed only El Flow has them) , but a lot more women than I expected. I got attacked from behind, it turned out to be "Skinny" for the Chunky & Skinny duo in November. Chunky was not in town; no big lost, she about killed me the last trip anyway. Grabbed Skinny and headed up to Classico.
Classico. The place was packed by 11 and it seemed like the male to female ratio was equal. Skinny only drank and danced for an hour; then she headed home (so she said). I talked to a few of the girls I met there in November and they were all asking 2500p for short time; some, but not many would drop to 2000p. So in that regard, it seemed the market has changed since the early December melt down.
Latino. Even though the tall frizzy hair psycho stalking bartender (TFHPSB) was still working there, this place was once again my favorite. When she saw me for the first time, her big ass made a dash for me; I thought we would both drop and roll for sure; no problem, the big bouncer had my back. For some reason, TFHPSB thought we were a couple once again and I did my best to explain how friendships work. After a couple of nervous moments and a bunch of Hennessey; she calmed down and was, or seemed OK when I brought women in there to dance. The last night, I brought in little Dancer (contact from last trip) and the TFHPSB was very nice to her. But in walked Skinny, who turned out to be little Dancer's friend, and she joined us. Let's really try to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off the TFHPSB tonight, thus, in walked in two women I met at Herman's bar earlier that day at the beach, and then they joined us. OMG, I swore I saw steam come off TFHPSB's forehead. We all headed back to the dance club; just for safety's sake.
Skilled kidnappers, who do this for a living, will remove your footwear first thing as it makes it difficult for you to walk should you actually manage to escape from them after they busted you up and duct taped the shit out of you legs, arms, eyes, and mouth. Got to love that duct tape. Also, try running through the campo in bare feet. Really hurts. On the other hand if their methodology includes the long death March through the jungle to their base camp / safe house, you might have a point. Assuming of course your physically fit and think you can evade your captors, all hungry and dehydrated, etc. How do I know you ask? I read about it in a book someplace. Ya, a book.Geolopes, you may be right, but you are having all too much fun with it. Perhaps you have been reading too many of the Gor books. I am still waiting for DAW Books to publish "Housewives Of Gor".
Beach action:
There has to be something said about hanging out and drinking at a beach that has a natural canopy of trees to block out the sun. Hung out with Herman, other mongers, Shrek, and Herman's ladies every afternoon while in town. On Saturday and Sunday, there was a good amount of ladies walking up and down the beach, some pros, others not; still a nice parade to watch. But, nothing like the parade I watched in November. The absence of Haitians was quite noticeable.
Herman's best quote: "I lost thousands of dollars during the rains, but now that you are here, I can make up most of that."
Daytime street action:
Not as much as before, but still somewhat of a selection. I was coming back from the beach on Sunday and needed more pesos and wanted to check on the score of the first game. I went to exchange money at the little place across of Rumba; rate was 37 on Friday, and 36. 5 on Sunday. I was planning to go to Rumba to check out the game, but before I crossed the street, two pretty ladies came walking by and stopped to say Hello. One was light skinned and the other was quite darker; which I like anyway. After drinking most of the day with Herman, their names are lost in space. One of them asked if I could buy her a Cola Cola, I saw no harm in this so I told both of them they could join me once I found a place to watch the game.
We ended up at Rocky's and the place was basically dead; however, there was a huge projection screen with a great picture of the game with great sound to boot. We sat down at one of the long plastic tables, girl at each side. I asked them if they were hungry and they smiled and said a little. We ordered up some cheeseburgers (were good as well) and enjoyed the rest of the first game. Then they mentioned happy hour and I had nothing planned except meeting little Dancer at 10, and there was still time between games; so off we went to the NG. No hassles and they both had a nice pair of hands and others goodies to go with the rest of their bodies.
Food:
Morua Mia. Excellent and this time I had the banana flambé as well; really good food.
La Roca. Very good food, but the buffet did not look worth the price.
Bailey's. I walked by this place several times and it always seemed crowded. Decided to try it for dinner; food was average at best.
Especial Dades (pizza place). Got two slices to go and shared them with Marlene at the NG, we both thought that both slices sucked!
Di Colores. Had lunch there the day I left and had the best pasta dish of the trip; will return.
Rockey's. Had some burgers with some ladies there, they were good. I returned the last day for some ribs for lunch; but they were out of ribs, WTF?
La Finca. Walked by this place at least a dozen+ times between the two trips, I never see any customers in the place. Any info on this place?
Final thoughts and tidbits:
The biggest change that I saw, besides not seeing any Haitians walking on the beach, was there is no more shooting fish in the barrel in Sousa. Daytime street and beach action is limited, but still available, but for a higher price. The ladies seem to have more options. Same goes for the evenings, the ladies seemed to be waiting for that 2500p, instead of grabbing up two guys at a cheaper price, but end up with more money.
The place is still quite active and I will return, just not sure when (still recovering at this point). And I would urge other mongers (new and older) , to come out to check out the place as it is now. Even with the reduced chica population and them asking for higher prices, I still think that it is a bargain when compare to Costa Rica, Brazil, and Columbia. Don't jump up on my ass, it is just IMHO.
Finally, my incoherent conversation with the Customs Officer in Miami:
Him: What's your occupation?
I answered.
Him: Where are you coming from?
Me: I went completely blank! I replied,"Give me a second or two on that one."
Him: He smiled and replied,"Had a great time, huh?"
Me: Indeed, (pause) and I'm coming from the Dominican Republic.
Him: Welcome home.
Here is some more of the ass parade on the beach.
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DlovestheDR
01-31-11, 05:39
Too funny LOL.HOw about GFE? ST? There are a bunch of others I don't recommend. I'm sure they are all pretty basic regarding the different sex options with the girls.
Thoughts?
Here is some more of the ass parade on the beach.
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145478I enjoyed your post, thanks. Its marketing 101, less chicas mean higher prices. Everyone that wanted a toned down Sosua should be carefull what you ask for. But some mongerers will still be about to retrieve those old prices if they have maintained contact with their favoritas.
Nice read thanks.
Now, is this massage place next door to the Italian Spaghetti joint on PC? Or across the street from Baileys restaurant next to the junk souvenirs shops? Belki's: If you go right when you leave the New Garden, you will come to a 4 way intersection. Just cross the road going the same direction like you are headed to the Waterfront Restaurant. As soon as you cross the road, you will see Belki's Salon on the right. Usually there are girls that will reach out and try to pull you in; have fun.
Blk Big Bootyluv
01-31-11, 07:47
Ok thanks I'll be sure to sample the services when I'm in town.
Belki's: If you go right when you leave the New Garden, you will come to a 4 way intersection. Just cross the road going the same direction like you are headed to the Waterfront Restaurant. As soon as you cross the road, you will see Belki's Salon on the right. Usually there are girls that will reach out and try to pull you in; have fun.
DR Monger II
01-31-11, 09:01
Is that Haitian girl with big tits at Belkis? I would think that with the new rules around that place would be the first place to go.
HOw about GFE? ST? There are a bunch of others I don't recommend. I'm sure they are all pretty basic regarding the different sex options with the girls.
Thoughts? Click "Abbreviations" above in the menu bar and you will be taken to this page: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1897-Terms-and-Abbreviations-List
Or you could copy any abbreviation and paste it into Google and do a search and more than likely you will find the definition.
GFE= girl friend experience.
LOL= laugh out loud.
ST= short term or short time
ROTFLMAO= roll on the floor laugh my ass off.
Pse= porn star experience
Punter= British slang for a man who engages in sex with prostitutes.
TLN= toda la noche = all night
Blk Big Bootyluv
01-31-11, 20:09
Equally, those tht find glee in the toned down Sosua might hve the bankroll to roll with the punches. Me on the other hand am the unequivocated bargin shopper! ! I would use coupons for some DR toto si se puede! Yes I have been called Malo, Tigare and my Fav Tacaño. I laugh and say La tuya! Jaja.
I enjoyed your post, thanks. Its marketing 101, less chicas mean higher prices. Everyone that wanted a toned down Sosua should be carefull what you ask for. But some mongerers will still be about to retrieve those old prices if they have maintained contact with their favoritas.
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