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Mr Enternational
05-22-11, 18:13
Who is Naomi? If we are talking about psycho chica, she told me her name was Patricia, LOL! But I don't have her number. That's not one I would hang on to. Jfregedie is after her also so you might want to talk with him. I think he's going back there before August.No need for a phone number if it is her you are talking about. Just go to Latino's at 11pm. You can not miss her. But as these guys have already said,"Caveat Emptor!"
Dan The Man69
05-22-11, 18:52
Is it better to make reservations or just take your chances showing up to get the better cash price at places to stay in Sosua? I read from Cuba Dave's blogs that there are plenty of hotels to choose from. I'll be arriving on a Wednesday and this will be my first time here. Was even thinking of staying at the ManTourHotel in POP after arriving & taking the ManTour to check out Sosua. I am retiring in Aug and wanted to check DR out. Just returned from CR for an implant, and CR is so far my first choice for retirement. But hoping Sosua will change my mind. Anyone recommend a POC for retirement options in Sosua?
Any advice?
Manizales911
05-22-11, 22:27
Who is Naomi? If we are talking about psycho chica, she told me her name was Patricia, LOL! But I don't have her number. That's not one I would hang on to. Jfregedie is after her also so you might want to talk with him. I think he's going back there before August.
What has Mandigo Al been up to lately? Did he get married or something, LOL? Savepros,
Deep is looking for this Naomi. She is a legendary greek goddess that used to work at Cristal's, an awesome chica. I have her number for anyone that wants it unless of course she has changed it in the last 6 months. I also know where she lives but I won't give out that info without her permission.
I hear Ibel is at CMP, just wanting to know if she still one of the best as I remember her?
Manizales911
05-22-11, 22:48
I hear Ibel is at CMP, just wanting to know if she still one of the best as I remember her?Ibel is a wonderful performer but she has always wanted more than the average going price. The first time I met her was at BB'S and she tried to jack me up there which is strictly forbidden. Then when she was at FOD she insisted on 2500 pesos ST and wouldn't budge and guys were almost standing in line to pay it. Last year I contacted her to come to Puerto Plata for a couple days and she told me sure, for 5000 pesos per 24 hours. I hung up on her and erased her number from my phone, she ain't THAT good.
SavePros321
05-22-11, 23:31
Damn Savepro, that Superman.
Ride, looked scary just watching the clip. LOL. Hey, I went to the Dr back in March, I wanted.
To get ahold of Naomi, the number, I had kept going to voicemail, I was wondering, If you.
Had, a good number on her, Pm me your number, I want to compare my number, I am.
Going back in August, hopefully catching up with her. Just spoke with Mandingo AL. Is this the Naomi you are looking for? :
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2227-Sosua-Reports&p=858445&viewfull=1#post858445
If so, I've never been with her. Love the color of her eyes though!
DeepMmpactt
05-23-11, 07:10
Just spoke with Mandingo AL. Is this the Naomi you are looking for? :
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2227-Sosua-Reports&p=858445&viewfull=1#post858445
If so, I've never been with her. Love the color of her eyes though! Good looking.
Savepro, but no that aint her. You wouldn't forget this Naomi, I'm talking about.
But I owe you a drink, if we ever party together, in Sosua. LOL. Ill try and post
A picture of this Naomi, I'm talking about. In a country of Ford Taurus, she's.
A ferrari. This chica is legendary. Beautiful, funny, sexy (beautiful feet)
Sorry that was my foot fetish talking. LOL.
DeepMmpactt
05-23-11, 07:19
Savepros,
Deep is looking for this Naomi. She is a legendary greek goddess that used to work at Cristal's, an awesome chica. I have her number for anyone that wants it unless of course she has changed it in the last 6 months. I also know where she lives but I won't give out that info without her permission. Jackpot. Nothing but net!
Great job Manizales. Please Pm me her number, if you talk to her, tell El Caballo Negro.
Is looking for her (long story on the name). LOL. I would love to see her, very classy, sexy,
Beautiful, funny, intelligent, I could go on. (blah blah blah) , and sexy toes. LOL
I get in June 3 for 5 days. Meeting 3 other wingmen during this time.
Lets do beer, then chicas! Sounds like a party because 3 wingmen and I will also be there for 9 days starting June 3rd. Staying at perla de Sosua. Let's get wine and wenches!
Sounds like a party because 3 wingmen and I will also be there for 9 days starting June 3rd. Staying at perla de Sosua. Let's get wine and wenches!I will be there from that time. Lets drink a beer or 2.
Charles Pooter
05-23-11, 16:23
Is it better to make reservations or just take your chances showing up to get the better cash price at places to stay in Sosua? I read from Cuba Dave's blogs that there are plenty of hotels to choose from. I'll be arriving on a Wednesday and this will be my first time here. Was even thinking of staying at the ManTourHotel in POP after arriving & taking the ManTour to check out Sosua. I am retiring in Aug and wanted to check DR out. Just returned from CR for an implant, and CR is so far my first choice for retirement. But hoping Sosua will change my mind. Anyone recommend a POC for retirement options in Sosua?
Any advice? Dan, I just spent 20 minutes sending you a long (and hopefully helpful) Private Message. After sending it, I found that you do not have private message facilities. This is the second time this week that has happened. I think it is stupid that the software allows us to write and send Private Messages to those who cannot receive them.
Come on, Mr Jackson, I am sure there is a simple fix for that, because I have never encountered that problem on any other board.
If and when you do have PM facilities (which I understand entails paying a small subscription) , drop me a line.
Manizales911
05-23-11, 21:32
Jackpot. Nothing but net!
Great job Manizales. Please Pm me her number, if you talk to her, tell El Caballo Negro.
Is looking for her (long story on the name). LOL. I would love to see her, very classy, sexy,
Beautiful, funny, intelligent, I could go on. (blah blah blah) , and sexy toes. LOLDeep,
Ahhh, the toes, I forgot about the toes. Hahaha. Honestly, the LAST thing I would remember about her is her toes, her ass yes, oh yes her ass. As I said before, a greek goddess.
As soon as my Dominican phone charges up I will pm you her number.
Dan The Man69
05-24-11, 00:47
Dan, I just spent 20 minutes sending you a long (and hopefully helpful) Private Message. After sending it, I found that you do not have private message facilities. This is the second time this week that has happened. I think it is stupid that the software allows us to write and send Private Messages to those who cannot receive them.
Come on, Mr Jackson, I am sure there is a simple fix for that, because I have never encountered that problem on any other board.
If and when you do have PM facilities (which I understand entails paying a small subscription) , drop me a line.But says to wait up to 24 hrs before it is activated.
La Passion Massage Sosua has a page in yahoo groups with hundreds of photos. You will need to sign into a yahoo account (free) to see the webpage with the photos. Some cute chicas in the May 2011 folder of photos.
http://*************************LaPassionMassageSosua
DeepMmpactt
05-24-11, 02:27
[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1158591]Deep,
Ahhh, the toes, I forgot about the toes. Hahaha. Honestly, the LAST thing I would remember about her is her toes, her ass yes, oh yes her ass. As I said before, a greek goddess.
As soon as my Dominican phone charges up I will pm you her number. [/QUOTE
Manizales. Lmao. Okay, enough of my wierd ass foot fetish, I started it, but
Seriously, I appreciate your helping a brother out, Man I love smashing her perfect,
Round ass, she has this amazing friend Amelia, I never thought anyone could come.
Close to her, so my fellow mongers, ask Naomi about her amiga Amelia, she will.
Even let you film, while you punish that ass. (I'm talking about Amelia) so hopefully,
I'm able to get a good number, from manizales, I have a video of me smashing Amelia.
Perfect ass. Naomi will bring different outfits, to further the fantasy. Hahaha. I got to
Say it, her T&A or Toes and Ankles, are amazing and her Tit and Ass! Is legendary.
SavePros321
05-24-11, 04:41
La Passion Massage Sosua has a page in yahoo groups with hundreds of photos. You will need to sign into a yahoo account (free) to see the webpage with the photos. Some cute chicas in the May 2011 folder of photos.
http://*************************LaPassionMassageSosuaDamn, they finally got rid of some of those skinny broads now huh? Maybe he's been getting some pointers from BB's, LOL.
I've stopped by there during the day just to drink. They had some round booty chicas, but don't know why their website didn't proudly reflect that. Didn't partake though. At the time (Old Sos.) I could do better than 2500 for ST. Now the place is probably a necessity!
This is Loca chica in Aaliya mode back when she was pimping chicas (this was '09!).
Funinthesun63
05-24-11, 06:19
I hear Ibel is at CMP, just wanting to know if she still one of the best as I remember her?So is she actually there now?
Just read this article:
Is this truly the case? I thought things were legal here.
(Politur) in Sosúa Colonel Enmanuel Antonio Fernández Tapia said during a press conference that the problem of prostitution in our beach town is under control. There have recently been arrested 247 people, mostly women and some street vendors and five foreigners. The action is not limited to Sosúa, as the colonel told us, but Cabarete, Rio San Juan and Cabrera are also strictly controlled. The colonel said that many employers and local associations praised the work of Politur. Then he referred to plans to redesign the beach town by a group of students from the University of Santo Domingo which have been presented at City Hall of Sosúa recently. The students came (with a slide show) with proposals to build a cinema, discotheque, supermarket, taxi station and other possibilities for the beach town.
Kitie Carson
05-24-11, 20:43
Just read this article:
Is this truly the case? I thought things were legal here.
(Politur) in Sosúa Colonel Enmanuel Antonio Fernández Tapia said during a press conference that the problem of prostitution in our beach town is under control. There have recently been arrested 247 people, mostly women and some street vendors and five foreigners. The action is not limited to Sosúa, as the colonel told us, but Cabarete, Rio San Juan and Cabrera are also strictly controlled. The colonel said that many employers and local associations praised the work of Politur. Then he referred to plans to redesign the beach town by a group of students from the University of Santo Domingo which have been presented at City Hall of Sosúa recently. The students came (with a slide show) with proposals to build a cinema, discotheque, supermarket, taxi station and other possibilities for the beach town.Legal, Yes! But who wants their town, city, Borough, state over-run with P4P people? None!
Kitie Carson
05-24-11, 20:44
So is she actually there now?From the reports and recent pics, Yes she is. But as you know tomorrow is another day and she could be gone Poof! Just like that.
Ill be there next week to see 1st hand!
SavePros321
05-24-11, 22:05
Just read this article:
Is this truly the case? I thought things were legal here.
(Politur) in Sosúa Colonel Enmanuel Antonio Fernández Tapia said during a press conference that the problem of prostitution in our beach town is under control. There have recently been arrested 247 people, mostly women and some street vendors and five foreigners. The action is not limited to Sosúa, as the colonel told us, but Cabarete, Rio San Juan and Cabrera are also strictly controlled. The colonel said that many employers and local associations praised the work of Politur. Then he referred to plans to redesign the beach town by a group of students from the University of Santo Domingo which have been presented at City Hall of Sosúa recently. The students came (with a slide show) with proposals to build a cinema, discotheque, supermarket, taxi station and other possibilities for the beach town. I think you are referring to an old Sosua News article that came out back in Dec. 2010.
Where are you quoting this from?
http://www.santiagodigital.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=19324&Itemid=1
I think you are referring to an old Sosua News article that came out back in Dec. 2010.
Where are you quoting this from?
http://www.verdadgasparense.com/ Released the 20th of may. I am hoping this is not the case. Have an upcoming trip there.
http://www.santiagodigital.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=19324&Itemid=1
MtdaRioLeo
05-24-11, 22:33
Okay. Hopefully someone can help me out here. I have been to Rio several times and believe me it sets the bar way high. I have familiar chicas I can hook up with and I am obviously a veteran when it comes to places to go. I am debating on whether to consider Medellin or Sosua this weekend or default to the old faithful Paradise. I have never been to the two aforementioned cities and I am curious to know which place would someone that has been to all three pick for this weekend? I really appreciate a prompt credible response! Thanks in advance!
Okay. Hopefully someone can help me out here. I have been to Rio several times and believe me it sets the bar way high. I have familiar chicas I can hook up with and I am obviously a veteran when it comes to places to go. I am debating on whether to consider Medellin or Sosua this weekend or default to the old faithful Paradise. I have never been to the two aforementioned cities and I am curious to know which place would someone that has been to all three pick for this weekend? I really appreciate a prompt credible response! Thanks in advance!Go to Brazil. You have connections, and you are a veteran as far as where to go.
SavePros321
05-25-11, 00:29
http://www.santiagodigital.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=19324&Itemid=1That's the first time I've seen mention of foreigners being arrested. But from reading the article it does seem that the Politur visits ISG to stay up-to-date, LOL. Jfegedie reported about is trip a few weeks ago. Maybe they realized that (after reading his trip report) they've still more work to do.
Frannie, what's going on around Sosua these days?
SavePros321
05-25-11, 00:31
Okay. Hopefully someone can help me out here. I have been to Rio several times and believe me it sets the bar way high. I have familiar chicas I can hook up with and I am obviously a veteran when it comes to places to go. I am debating on whether to consider Medellin or Sosua this weekend or default to the old faithful Paradise. I have never been to the two aforementioned cities and I am curious to know which place would someone that has been to all three pick for this weekend? I really appreciate a prompt credible response! Thanks in advance!I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if you have the option of Rio or MDE, you are going to be highly disappointed with Sosua. Sosua is the only place having P4P problems right now. And Dominicanas are no where as hot as chicas from BR or COL.
http://www.verdadgasparense.com/
Released the 20th of may. I am hoping this is not the case. Have an upcoming trip there. Prostitution in DR is legal, I very, very highly doubt the foreigners were arrested for soliciting prostitution. The foreigners may have been arrested for fighting or some other offense. If you are calm, cool and collected, you will have no problem in DR.
If you like to get into fights, then you could get arrested for that in DR.
Thousands upon thousands of foreign men have visited Sosua and the article maybe mentions 5 foreigners getting arrested. As a general rule in DR, if you have a problem, it is usually best not to get the police involved. I was detained by the police in Sosua after some nut job chica tried to steal a cell phone and she tried to stab me and a watchieman with a knife. As a foreigner you are seen as a walking ATM.
Rule of law in DR is something nebulous, which can be a good thing or a bad thing. Perfect example is the recent arrests of many street chicas in Sosua. Those chicas were not breaking any law, the police were told by the politicians to clean up the streets and the police thereafter arrested women in Sosua, I have not seen anything in the Dominican Penal Code, that would justify those arrests.
Hey guys. I'm making my first trip to Sosua and first mongering trip in a couple months.
How safe am I from STD's if I use common sense? I know that nothing is 100% but are you pretty safe messing with these chicks if you simply use a condom (for head too)?
I had this horrible experience in college with this freshman chick and I was pissing razor blades for a week. Whatever it was, it was cured easily but I don't want to experience that again.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if you have the option of Rio or MDE, you are going to be highly disappointed with Sosua. Sosua is the only place having P4P problems right now. And Dominicanas are no where as hot as chicas from BR or COL.Not all the chicas in Brazil are hot and Brazil is not cheap. Colombianas in Medellin are mostly lighter skin, many with implant tetas.
DR has a mix of chicas, from light skin to dark skin, some with big asses and some with big tetas. Many Dominican chicas love sex.
DR is closer to the US, pay for play prices are not bad in DR.
MtdaRioLeo
05-25-11, 02:18
Hey guys. I'm making my first trip to Sosua and first mongering trip in a couple months.
How safe am I from STD's if I use common sense? I know that nothing is 100% but are you pretty safe messing with these chicks if you simply use a condom (for head too)?
I had this horrible experience in college with this freshman chick and I was pissing razor blades for a week. Whatever it was, it was cured easily but I don't want to experience that again. Dude, put a tent on your pecker and look at the VJJ before you penetrate it. That means with the lights one. The tent will keep you from the razor blades but can't protect you from herpes, warts, etc. So be smart and you'll be fine!
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if you have the option of Rio or MDE, you are going to be highly disappointed with Sosua. Sosua is the only place having P4P problems right now. And Dominicanas are no where as hot as chicas from BR or COL.MtdaRioLeo.
Please see my post in the MDE section. Regarding the crackdown in Sosua, there are still tons of women. The women in MDE on average do have prettier faces, but there are plenty of very hot looking girls in Sosua (hell, Passions alone has 20 or so women that would fit right in at 4x4 or L'uomo).
IMO, you can't lose trying out MDE or Sosua. While neither is Rio-level, both have plenty to offer.
SavePros321
05-25-11, 04:12
(hell, Passions alone has 20 or so women that would fit right in at 4x4 or L'uomo).I will put up a Blackbeard's Monthly Newsletter against ANY of those tooth picks featured on La Passions website. You're comparing these chics to 4x4 or L'uomo babes? Seriously? None of those chicas would ever get hired at a Terma.
Lets compare:
BR
http://www.hotside.com.br/app/site/capa/
COL
http://masajistaspaisas.com/prepagos-medellin.html
DR
http://passions-sosua.com/?page_id=9
So is she actually there now?I saw her at cristals last week. She loves Anal. She is a real veteran. I first had her 11 years ago. She is now a grandmother. Her 15 year old has a 1 year old. Ibel is very sexy for a granny.
I'm in Sosua now and completely confused at folks saying it's dead? Trip thus far has been great and the pussy talent has been excellent, don't really understand how you can complain about the lack of sexy chicas in this town. I'm staying at don Andes but may move, it's fucking loud. Seems like I'm on motoconcho calle and have a friggin rooster across the street from my room. Like I said talent has been great altho two chicas I've been with are in novia mode (I look Dominican) , and I have a bolo on my head. These two seem to find me where ever I go. Oh well, fuck it. If anyone is in town and wants to grab a drink let me know.
BTW can anyone recommend another hotel that accepts cc?
Save Pros.
I'm somewhat of a "Rio snob" and I think Termas are the greatest thing in the World. But I really like Passion's. Every visit there they've had excellent talent and I've had good performances. Of course that's IMO. Everyone has different tastes. If one doesn't like Mulattas, well then, there's no use going to the DR.
I've never tried Blackbeard's so I have no opinion on that.
Manizales911
05-25-11, 13:50
I saw her at cristals last week. She loves Anal. She is a real veteran. I first had her 11 years ago. She is now a grandmother. Her 15 year old has a 1 year old. Ibel is very sexy for a granny.I think Ibel's daughter is a bit older than 15 but I could be wrong, over two years ago she paraded the girl through FOD and introduced her to every gringo in the place, I lost a lot of respect for Ibel that day.
Manizales911
05-25-11, 14:00
Save Pros.
I'm somewhat of a "Rio snob" and I think Termas are the greatest thing in the World. But I really like Passion's. Every visit there they've had excellent talent and I've had good performances. Of course that's IMO. Everyone has different tastes. If one doesn't like Mulattas, well then, there's no use going to the DR.
I've never tried Blackbeard's so I have no opinion on that.One of my wingmen just got back from Sosua on Friday and he told me Peter has cleaned house once again at Passions, about thirty new girls and quite a few stunners.
One of my wingmen just got back from Sosua on Friday and he told me Peter has cleaned house once again at Passions, about thirty new girls and quite a few stunners.Peter is a smart dude and always a step ahead of the game. When the first talk about"sex indoors" was spoken, Peter had already expanded. Peter does well with the internet so he has diversified.
But it makes me wonder how long the "sex indoor" concept can co-exist with the emerging family enviornment. Something has to give.
We had a private talk about some insider info we were privy to, that was possibly going to happen. I haven't heard anything else yet about that, so maybe there is a new direction being taken.
My wingman got some dimes out of Passions back in December and had some nice photos, but he asked me not to post (damn) so I will honor his request.
I never been to Passion's but I seen the pics of models on their website. Majority of them have cute face, but they're all shaped the same way. Slim girls with little curves. I saw a picture of a girl that use to work at Passion's name Diana (I think) pictures dated 2009. She had huge breast, don't know if they're fake or not but she stood out from the rest of the girls cause she was shaped differently.
Is it possible to get with a non-working girl or they won't talk to me cause I'm a gringo?
I think Ibel's daughter is a bit older than 15 but I could be wrong, over two years ago she paraded the girl through FOD and introduced her to every gringo in the place, I lost a lot of respect for Ibel that day.I believe the daughter says she is 18, and very much available.
AlwaysHorny 2
05-26-11, 04:35
I have a few questions fellas. I am NOT a newbie. This will be my third trip to the DR. My last visit to Sosua / Santo Domingo was almost 2 1/2 years ago. I have read the board, digested information, and I saved the special reports for reference later. My previous posts were under AlwaysHorny #2, but for some reason I lost access to that name.
Anyway, a big shout out to Coolie High. I enjoyed the hell out of your reports. Good Stuff!
Mr. Gogo, other than meeting you in the airport in Miami, I haven't had the opportunity to have a drink with you in the DR. Now that I am COMPLETELY single, I plan on making my travels to the DR way more frequent. I'm also brushing up on this spanish something fierce. Eventually, I want to get to know DR intimately. And not only in the obvious way you perverted bastards! LOL.
I plan to have a great time and relax some. I am bringing two newbies with me and I will continue to school them, but I'm not worried because they are older guys and are used to getting quality pussy.
I only have three questions:
1. Can someone recommend a good, trustworthy driver? We are considering making a day trip to Blackbeards and checking out Cabarete at least once.
2. Is Cabarete worth the visit? Is it better during the day or at night? Which days are better?
3. Can you recommend anything to help kill time during the day? Certain excursion, day trips, etc. I'm going to be here for a decent stretch and I want to do more than bang chicas and drink beer.
Ok, so I lied. Question 2 is like 3 in 1.
Thanks Fellas
Member #2666
05-26-11, 16:26
I'm in Sosua now and completely confused at folks saying it's dead? Trip thus far has been great and the pussy talent has been excellent, don't really understand how you can complain about the lack of sexy chicas in this town. I'm staying at don Andes but may move, it's fucking loud. Seems like I'm on motoconcho calle and have a friggin rooster across the street from my room. Like I said talent has been great altho two chicas I've been with are in novia mode (I look Dominican) , and I have a bolo on my head. These two seem to find me where ever I go. Oh well, fuck it. If anyone is in town and wants to grab a drink let me know.I read your most recent post about the goings on in town and I am wondering a few things.
Is there daytime activity. On the streets, in Charmiquo, in the neighborhoods. We usually rent scooters and tool around all over and meet and greet many girls off the street form early morning to dusk. Are there still girls walking in the neighborhoods?
How about the evenings? Are there girls outside at all. Or do you have to enter the bars / restaurants.
How abour CMC? Is it any good? And finally the beach. We always could find a girl on the beach, just walking the strip at Hermans or at Abbey Road? What a shame if there are not girls on the beach.
I am thinking of coming toward the middle of June. Hope I am not disappointed, primarily because I don't care for the late night scene.
Damn. Looks like Sosua is going to be dead by time I go there in July. If I'm not able to arrange a meeting with some chicks from the internet I may have to go somewhere else. I was really wanting to go to DR too.
Peter is a smart dude and always a step ahead of the game. When the first talk about"sex indoors" was spoken, Peter had already expanded. Peter does well with the internet so he has diversified.
But it makes me wonder how long the "sex indoor" concept can co-exist with the emerging family enviornment. Something has to give.
We had a private talk about some insider info we were privy to, that was possibly going to happen. I haven't heard anything else yet about that, so maybe there is a new direction being taken.
My wingman got some dimes out of Passions back in December and had some nice photos, but he asked me not to post (damn) so I will honor his request.
I have a few questions fellas. I am NOT a newbie. This will be my third trip to the DR. My last visit to Sosua / Santo Domingo was almost 2 1/2 years ago. I have read the board, digested information, and I saved the special reports for reference later. My previous posts were under AlwaysHorny #2, but for some reason I lost access to that name.
Anyway, a big shout out to Coolie High. I enjoyed the hell out of your reports. Good Stuff!
Mr. Gogo, other than meeting you in the airport in Miami, I haven't had the opportunity to have a drink with you in the DR. Now that I am COMPLETELY single, I plan on making my travels to the DR way more frequent. I'm also brushing up on this spanish something fierce. Eventually, I want to get to know DR intimately. And not only in the obvious way you perverted bastards! LOL.
I plan to have a great time and relax some. I am bringing two newbies with me and I will continue to school them, but I'm not worried because they are older guys and are used to getting quality pussy.
I only have three questions:
1. Can someone recommend a good, trustworthy driver? We are considering making a day trip to Blackbeards and checking out Cabarete at least once.
2. Is Cabarete worth the visit? Is it better during the day or at night? Which days are better?
3. Can you recommend anything to help kill time during the day? Certain excursion, day trips, etc. I'm going to be here for a decent stretch and I want to do more than bang chicas and drink beer.
Ok, so I lied. Question 2 is like 3 in 1.
Thanks FellasHey whats man? I wondered what happened to you. I remember you like the Patron, I also remember you catching the wrong caribe tours bus, that was funny LOL. Well I got some bad news playa, Sosua is playing the final song now and the lights are coming on. Its nowhere like it was when you were there. Its still night time pussy but not as exciting as it was when you were there.
Also there isn't much to do during the day now except just hang out and hob nob with the fellas. If you are flying into or out of SD, try hooking up with BBl in SD. He gust did a great trip report in the "Gogo Forum". He is there going to Spanish school for the next two months and is giving alot of non mongering info on whats going on.
Where the fuck is Coolie high? Is he still in the "Old Sosua" rehab facility for displaced mogerers? Somebody call the "A Team"now. Have BA, Hannible, and Face bust Coolie and Murdock out asap.
Damn. Looks like Sosua is going to be dead by time I go there in July. If I'm not able to arrange a meeting with some chicks from the internet I may have to go somewhere else. I was really wanting to go to DR too.Who wrote Sosua is dead?
I read the recent posts and guys are saying there are still plenty of chicas in Sosua.
I have a few questions fellas. I am NOT a newbie. This will be my third trip to the DR. My last visit to Sosua / Santo Domingo was almost 2 1/2 years ago. I have read the board, digested information, and I saved the special reports for reference later. My previous posts were under AlwaysHorny #2, but for some reason I lost access to that name.
Anyway, a big shout out to Coolie High. I enjoyed the hell out of your reports. Good Stuff!
Mr. Gogo, other than meeting you in the airport in Miami, I haven't had the opportunity to have a drink with you in the DR. Now that I am COMPLETELY single, I plan on making my travels to the DR way more frequent. I'm also brushing up on this spanish something fierce. Eventually, I want to get to know DR intimately. And not only in the obvious way you perverted bastards! LOL.
I plan to have a great time and relax some. I am bringing two newbies with me and I will continue to school them, but I'm not worried because they are older guys and are used to getting quality pussy.
I only have three questions:
1. Can someone recommend a good, trustworthy driver? We are considering making a day trip to Blackbeards and checking out Cabarete at least once.
2. Is Cabarete worth the visit? Is it better during the day or at night? Which days are better?
3. Can you recommend anything to help kill time during the day? Certain excursion, day trips, etc. I'm going to be here for a decent stretch and I want to do more than bang chicas and drink beer.
Ok, so I lied. Question 2 is like 3 in 1.
Thanks FellasI haven't been to Cabarete in years. When I visited, it was a pleasant beach town. The beach is much wider than playa sosua (you have to walk farther on the sand before getting to the water). The wind was always strong when I visited cabarete, lots of people from around the world travel to cabarete for wind sports like kite boarding. Some tourist chicas go topless on the beach in cabarete. I imagine some of the tourist chicas in cabarete are like groupies for some of the wind sports guys. Cabarete has some bars and restaurants that face face the beach, Jose O'Shay's Irish Pub was a nice place.
At night when I was there, it was mostly a young tourist crowd hanging out in the bars. New condominium apartment buildings have been built in Cabarete since I was there, so I don't know if the crowd in Cabarete has changed. Years ago Domincan chicas who I knew, liked to go to cabarete (non-pro type chicas).
There is at least one gym in sosua. Many guys go snorkeling or scuba diving when they visit sosua. Some guys go and play golf.
There are a set of river falls in puerto plata, that I have read are interesting. There is a cable car to the Jesus statue in Puerto Plata. I have seen tourists on all terrain vehicles on the side of the road between sosua and puerto plata, no idea how much fun that might be to do. There used to be a water-park in Sosua, not sure if it is open.
There are tour operators in Sosua, that offer various excursions.
Who wrote Sosua is dead?
I read the recent posts and guys are saying there are still plenty of chicas in Sosua.Jao, Sosua is not dead, just on "death watch". It's not what it was, but there is still pussy there. Day time activities with the girls is not what it used to be. There used to be so many day adventures that most guy's didn't give a fuck if they fucked at night. Plus GFE was the norm during the day. The "New Sosua" is not the "old Sosua'. The girl's are scared and the guy's are confused. Guy's talk about its only 100 girl's now when before there were 300 girl's, and say it's still pussy there. Me personally, I like unlimited options verses sharing my 100 girl's with 50 mongerers.
Jao when are at the point where it's 25 girl's working and 50 mongerers, some will say Sosua is not dead and it's plenty of pussy there. If anyone experienced the "old Sosua" in it's heyday, with adventure and energy, the "new Sosua" will always be a fading version. But it's not dead yet, and after the upcoming election it may return, but for now the "New Sosua" is on "death watch".
Coolie High
05-27-11, 12:11
Where the fuck is Coolie high? Is he still in the "Old Sosua" rehab facility for displaced mogerers? Somebody call the "A Team"now. Have BA, Hannible, and Face bust Coolie and Murdock out asap.LMFAO Naw Mr. Gogo I'm still here. Just been laying in the cut stacking this bread up for my upcoming trip in August. Plan to hit Haiti and then head to Sosua. I'm really curious to see what Sosua will be when I get there. There's just been soo many conflicting reports that I just got to see it for myself.
Hey AlwaysHorney#2 thanks for the shout-out. Be sure to report back your adventures in the promise land. Blk Big Bootyluv I'm digging reading your adventures in Mr. Gogo forum.
Fellow mongers quick question. Wanted to know do anybody has a number to a limo company in DR. This might sound a little crazy but after I visit Haiti and cross the border to DR I wanted to possibly have a big limo meet me at the boarder with a few girls waiting for me.
68 days. 19hrs. 50mins and 20 secs til I'm back in the promise land.
Charles Pooter
05-27-11, 16:44
Helpful post, as usual, J.
Jose O'Shay's Irish Pub was a nice place.It is nice but takes advantage of its fame to charge rip-off prices.
Charles Pooter
05-27-11, 16:47
Damn. Looks like Sosua is going to be dead by time I go there in July.How many new putas do you need to fuck each day? If more than ten per day then consider going somewhere else. Anything less and you will find all you need in Sosua at affordable prices.
No, Sosua is not what it was in the daytime and you need to manage your arrangements more carefully, liking taking phone numbers or making dates for the following day with chicas you meet at night who you fancy.
The real question is where can you go that is as cheap for the same level of chica (after including your airfare, hotel, etc). SE Asia obviously, but you may be like me for whom SE Asia girls hold little appeal. Colombia? To avoid paying high prices you will need some Spanish and be confident getting around sizable cities. (Same applies to Santo Domingo and Santiago which have a learning curve).
You spoke of "somewhere else". What alternatives do you have in mind?
MiamiHeatLuver
05-27-11, 16:59
Helpful post, as usual, J.
It is nice but takes advantage of its fame to charge rip-off prices. That's true, but whats also true if your expecting "ON PAR" USA quality BAR FOOD your going to be completely disappointed. After about 4 days in the D. R. We had a table of 10 and everybody was hoping for some resemblance of good USA style bar food to, lets just say it was "dominicanized" Soggy french fries, I fucked up and ordered a RUBEN, funny tasting meat and cheese, little things that make or beak your meal.
Charles Pooter
05-27-11, 17:25
That's true, but whats also true if your expecting "ON PAR" USA quality BAR FOOD your going to be completely disappointed. After about 4 days in the D. R. We had a table of 10 and everybody was hoping for some resemblance of good USA style bar food to, lets just say it was "dominicanized" Soggy french fries, I fucked up and ordered a RUBEN, funny tasting meat and cheese, little things that make or beak your meal.Sorry, I have no sympathy with you at all.
When I went to France I didn't order Italian food, or vice versa. You need to order what the country or area does best. Good Dominican food is very good (good Haitian food even better, but then I would say that, wouldn't I?). Imitation American food done by Dominicans is usually sub-standard, which is why Dominican Billy's bar was so appreciated by North Americans (especially sports fans) because he cooked stuff like you guys enjoyed it back home.
I sure as hell don't look for English food here (it is not too great even in England. LOL) though several places make an acceptable attempt at "fish and chips" on the North Coast.
LittleTruths
05-27-11, 17:59
Sorry, I have no sympathy with you at all.
When I went to France I didn't order Italian food, or vice versa. You need to order what the country or area does best. Good Dominican food is very good (good Haitian food even better, but then I would say that, wouldn't I?). Imitation American food done by Dominicans is usually sub-standard, which is why Dominican Billy's bar was so appreciated by North Americans (especially sports fans) because he cooked stuff like you guys enjoyed it back home.
I sure as hell don't look for English food here (it is not too great even in England. LOL) though several places make an acceptable attempt at "fish and chips" on the North Coast. Ditto.
Ah, the good ol' fashioned sense!
Bless
MiamiHeatLuver
05-27-11, 18:07
Sorry, I have no sympathy with you at all.
When I went to France I didn't order Italian food, or vice versa. You need to order what the country or area does best. Good Dominican food is very good (good Haitian food even better, but then I would say that, wouldn't I?). Imitation American food done by Dominicans is usually sub-standard, which is why Dominican Billy's bar was so appreciated by North Americans (especially sports fans) because he cooked stuff like you guys enjoyed it back home.
I sure as hell don't look for English food here (it is not too great even in England. LOL) though several places make an acceptable attempt at "fish and chips" on the North Coast. Haha, Chuck I'm not looking for your sympathy. Of course I should have known better but I figured it was Jose O'sheas and everything looks GREAT in the little picture on the menu and when they charge 300-400 pesos in the DR for a sandwich I figured I better be getting some good eats. Not something that's just palatable or "good enough" In the D. R. There's only so many ways I can enjoy chicken, mangu, arroz why habicheulas.
Helpful post, as usual, J.
It is nice but takes advantage of its fame to charge rip-off prices.I only drank beer there, at a table facing the beach, looking at some white tourist chicas titties, who were sunbathing topless.
In the DR I am mostly on a liquid diet, presidente cerveza, coca cola, Baileys, vodka and tequila.
Jao, Sosua is not dead, just on "death watch". It's not what it was, but there is still pussy there. Day time activities with the girls is not what it used to be. There used to be so many day adventures that most guy's didn't give a fuck if they fucked at night. Plus GFE was the norm during the day. The "New Sosua" is not the "old Sosua'. The girl's are scared and the guy's are confused. Guy's talk about its only 100 girl's now when before there were 300 girl's, and say it's still pussy there. Me personally, I like unlimited options verses sharing my 100 girl's with 50 mongerers.
Jao when are at the point where it's 25 girl's working and 50 mongerers, some will say Sosua is not dead and it's plenty of pussy there. If anyone experienced the "old Sosua" in it's heyday, with adventure and energy, the "new Sosua" will always be a fading version. But it's not dead yet, and after the upcoming election it may return, but for now the "New Sosua" is on "death watch".It is hot as hell in the daytime, with the blazing sun in Sosua. I did 10 trips or more to Sosua, starting ten years ago. I never really saw too many dimes walking around Sosua in the daytime. Some of the chicas I did see in the daytime looked much better, when I saw them at night in low light conditions.
Lots of Dominican chicas don't like to be out in the sun. Some pros sleep late, some pros take care of their children in the daytime. When I was in Sosua there were always more chicas out and about in the night time.
When I visited Sosua there was always a good percentage of fat, not very sexy chicas walking around.
For a newbie going to Sosua, he will have not have prior experiences to compare to it, so more than likely he will enjoy sosua.
I am a late night person, in Sosua some nights I would stay out till 6am.
You visited Sosua after I stopped going to Sosua, so you experienced a different Sosua than what I saw.
Don Antonio
05-27-11, 19:56
Authentic Haitian cuisine takes some getting used to.
It certainly beats La Bandera, though, many a times, that's my preferred power breakfast.
Sorry, I have no sympathy with you at all.
When I went to France I didn't order Italian food, or vice versa. You need to order what the country or area does best. Good Dominican food is very good (good Haitian food even better, but then I would say that, wouldn't I?). Imitation American food done by Dominicans is usually sub-standard, which is why Dominican Billy's bar was so appreciated by North Americans (especially sports fans) because he cooked stuff like you guys enjoyed it back home.
I sure as hell don't look for English food here (it is not too great even in England. LOL) though several places make an acceptable attempt at "fish and chips" on the North Coast.
AlwaysHorny 2
05-27-11, 20:59
Actually, Mr. Gogo, I would label the town as being on "death watch" based upon my last experience. The reason I say this is because there were not a lot of chicas around during the day. The town itself was kinda quiet and empty. Even if the nightime activity has tailed off some, it is still greater than anything I have ever witnessed in Chicago. Plus, you throw in the warm weather and just the opportunity to RELAX. I think I will still have a great time. The young lady I met on my last visit blew my ass out the park. I was playing it chill, but she had me. Quality over quantity any day, so if I find someone of her caliber again, I will probably just wife her up the entire trip. But I doubt it! LOL.
I remember the last time I was there, it was this other super-fine honey and was kicking myself for being soo wrapped up in my chica. Boy, if I could have changed things around. Anyway, it is something about these chicas that exudes sexuality and passion. I would love to bring one to the Chi for the weekend and have these locals green with envy. This is why I am coming. I can't find this nowhere close. You guys have been there and done that soo many times that you are spoiled. I won't exactly act like a kid in a candy store, but I'm sure I will still be blown away. The guys I'm go with get excited over South Beach, so I know they will be grinning from ear to ear.
Lastly, my reason for learning spanish. And eventually I want to become fluent. Is because I want to progress to the level of having real conversations with the chicas and be able to communicate freely and really get my mack on. When I was in Santo Domingo I met a chica soo ridiculously smoking hot, but I couldn't maintain the communication when I returned home because of the language barrier. She was by far the most incredible physical specimen that I had the opportunity to get interested in me. That shit still bugs the hell out of me to this day. AND SHE WAS NOT A PUTA! DAMN! Think Beyonce times 5! The reason I say that she was not a puta is because she never once mentioned money and there was no way I was getting a piece of that ass without some serious time invested. I would have really wifed her up.
On another note, I hate these american bitches! Stuck up ho's for no reason. Average looks and no money. That is why I fuck them and flee. They expect the world and give little in return. I'm tired of playing the game with them. I would really love to explore the entire DR and not just the mongering areas. I think this country has soo much to offer. Much more than a cheap fuck! I'm real jealous of BBL.
How many new putas do you need to fuck each day? If more than ten per day then consider going somewhere else. Anything less and you will find all you need in Sosua at affordable prices.
No, Sosua is not what it was in the daytime and you need to manage your arrangements more carefully, liking taking phone numbers or making dates for the following day with chicas you meet at night who you fancy.
The real question is where can you go that is as cheap for the same level of chica (after including your airfare, hotel, etc). SE Asia obviously, but you may be like me for whom SE Asia girls hold little appeal. Colombia? To avoid paying high prices you will need some Spanish and be confident getting around sizable cities. (Same applies to Santo Domingo and Santiago which have a learning curve).
You spoke of "somewhere else". What alternatives do you have in mind?I saw airfare to Thailand yesterday from new york, almost 2 thousand dollars. Usually I fly round-trip to Dom Rep for around $400. 3 hours or so, in an airplane is tolerable. DR has a mix of chicas, big girls, small girls, thin or chubbie, dark to light skin.
Hi guys, sorry for my english because I'm european, but believer of this forum that I appreciate, newbie in Sosua but old monger (Thaďland, Brazil eight times, Colombia and now Dominican Republic).
I arrived in Sosua Thursday night, and when I read that it's dead, I think it's exaggerated. Sure, perhaps for those who know Sosua the past years, but for me who arrive for the first time, it's great! Yesterday by example, I went in La Passions and they were twenties cuties and young ladies available, and a lot of girls too on the street Pedro Clisante, and on other clubs.
I finished my night in disco Classico, and I think there was 50-80-grils for 10-20 guys only, then a lot of choice and I think 5-10 very, very, beautifiul ladies.
Today I went to the beach, and I seen or talk with 5-10 grils available, and I seen too 10 girls available at 2pm on the main street with bars, Pedro Clisante. For unluck, it'ts raining all the afternoon, what not encourage the girls to come on the town.
Then Sosua it's dead perhaps compared to the past, but I think there is again a lot of things to do with chicas, nights and days! And it's better than Santo Domingo where I stayed yet three weeks. Better level of beauties, that sure, and better choice.
IMHO, of course.
Nikkon
Charles Pooter
05-27-11, 23:00
Hi guys, sorry for my english because I'm european, but believer of this forum that I appreciate, newbie in Sosua but old monger (Thaďland, Brazil eight times, Colombia and now Dominican Republic).
I arrived in Sosua Thursday night, and when I read that it's dead, I think it's exaggerated. Sure, perhaps for those who know Sosua the past years, but for me who arrive for the first time, it's great! Yesterday by example, I went in La Passions and they were twenties cuties and young ladies available, and a lot of girls too on the street Pedro Clisante, and on other clubs.
I finished my night in disco Classico, and I think there was 50-80-grils for 10-20 guys only, then a lot of choice and I think 5-10 very, very, beautifiul ladies.
Today I went to the beach, and I seen or talk with 5-10 grils available, and I seen too 10 girls available at 2pm on the main street with bars, Pedro Clisante. For unluck, it'ts raining all the afternoon, what not encourage the girls to come on the town.
Then Sosua it's dead perhaps compared to the past, but I think there is again a lot of things to do with chicas, nights and days! And it's better than Santo Domingo where I stayed yet three weeks. Better level of beauties, that sure, and better choice.
IMHO, of course.
NikkonGreat first post and not too much wrong with your English. Another nail in the coffin for all the moaning minnies about Sosua. They are like spoilt children who cannot have everything their way. Sosua has its defects as do all monger spots but is hard to beat for good value within easy reach of much of the USA.
Hi guys, sorry for my english because I'm europeanHey! We English are Europeans too, you know! (Not very good ones sometimes, I must admit).
Hi guys, sorry for my english because I'm european, but believer of this forum that I appreciate, newbie in Sosua but old monger (Thaďland, Brazil eight times, Colombia and now Dominican Republic).
I arrived in Sosua Thursday night, and when I read that it's dead, I think it's exaggerated. Sure, perhaps for those who know Sosua the past years, but for me who arrive for the first time, it's great! Yesterday by example, I went in La Passions and they were twenties cuties and young ladies available, and a lot of girls too on the street Pedro Clisante, and on other clubs.
I finished my night in disco Classico, and I think there was 50-80-grils for 10-20 guys only, then a lot of choice and I think 5-10 very, very, beautifiul ladies.
Today I went to the beach, and I seen or talk with 5-10 grils available, and I seen too 10 girls available at 2pm on the main street with bars, Pedro Clisante. For unluck, it'ts raining all the afternoon, what not encourage the girls to come on the town.
Then Sosua it's dead perhaps compared to the past, but I think there is again a lot of things to do with chicas, nights and days! And it's better than Santo Domingo where I stayed yet three weeks. Better level of beauties, that sure, and better choice.
IMHO, of course.
NikkonMany european guys prefer darker skin chicas. North Coast including Puerto Plata and Sosua has more darker skin chicas. In Santo Domingo I see very few Haitianas. Santo Domingo is a big city with some very fine chicas.
Thanks for reporting and have fun
Dan The Man69
05-28-11, 00:03
I'm heading to Sosua next week for my 1st time too. The latest posts just about changed my mind. But after reading this, I'll give it my best shot. Cuming in Wed from Miami via AA and should be having my first brew around 4 or so. Where (and when) is happy hour, anyway, for newbies?
Dan.
Great first post and not too much wrong with your English. Another nail in the coffin for all the moaning minnies about Sosua. They are like spoilt children who cannot have everything their way. Sosua has its defects as do all monger spots but is hard to beat for good value within easy reach of much of the USA.
Hey! We English are Europeans too, you know! (Not very good ones sometimes, I must admit).
SavePros321
05-28-11, 00:30
Hi guys, sorry for my english because I'm european, but believer of this forum that I appreciate, newbie in Sosua but old monger (Thaďland, Brazil eight times, Colombia and now Dominican Republic).
I arrived in Sosua Thursday night, and when I read that it's dead, I think it's exaggerated. Sure, perhaps for those who know Sosua the past years, but for me who arrive for the first time, it's great! Yesterday by example, I went in La Passions and they were twenties cuties and young ladies available, and a lot of girls too on the street Pedro Clisante, and on other clubs.
I finished my night in disco Classico, and I think there was 50-80-grils for 10-20 guys only, then a lot of choice and I think 5-10 very, very, beautifiul ladies.
Today I went to the beach, and I seen or talk with 5-10 grils available, and I seen too 10 girls available at 2pm on the main street with bars, Pedro Clisante. For unluck, it'ts raining all the afternoon, what not encourage the girls to come on the town.
Then Sosua it's dead perhaps compared to the past, but I think there is again a lot of things to do with chicas, nights and days! And it's better than Santo Domingo where I stayed yet three weeks. Better level of beauties, that sure, and better choice.
IMHO, of course.
NikkonThanks for the update and quick report!
Hi guys, sorry for my english because I'm european, but believer of this forum that I appreciate, newbie in Sosua but old monger (Thaďland, Brazil eight times, Colombia and now Dominican Republic).
I arrived in Sosua Thursday night, and when I read that it's dead, I think it's exaggerated. Sure, perhaps for those who know Sosua the past years, but for me who arrive for the first time, it's great! Yesterday by example, I went in La Passions and they were twenties cuties and young ladies available, and a lot of girls too on the street Pedro Clisante, and on other clubs.
I finished my night in disco Classico, and I think there was 50-80-grils for 10-20 guys only, then a lot of choice and I think 5-10 very, very, beautifiul ladies.
Today I went to the beach, and I seen or talk with 5-10 grils available, and I seen too 10 girls available at 2pm on the main street with bars, Pedro Clisante. For unluck, it'ts raining all the afternoon, what not encourage the girls to come on the town.
Then Sosua it's dead perhaps compared to the past, but I think there is again a lot of things to do with chicas, nights and days! And it's better than Santo Domingo where I stayed yet three weeks. Better level of beauties, that sure, and better choice.
IMHO, of course.
NikkonThis is spot on. Yes, Sosua has changed, and in some ways for the better. But there's still tons of pussy available.
Charles Pooter
05-28-11, 08:51
Where (and when) is happy hour, anyway, for newbies?Are you aware that "happy hour" in Sosua refers to taking two putas at once for a threesome? Of course it is also used by bars, etc. for a cheap drinking time, but not often. Dominicans aren't big on "special offers" or discounts.
Dan The Man69
05-28-11, 17:36
Guess its a throw back from my military days. Been used to happy hours after missions, or when arriving in new places in Korea, Philippines. Seems the old timers always took pride in parading in the fresh meat (us) or "cherrys" to get them initiated or indoctrinated, or as we say "our intel briefing". Usually ended with a "happy hr". Sometimes even drink specials!
Are you aware that "happy hour" in Sosua refers to taking two putas at once for a threesome? Of course it is also used by bars, etc. for a cheap drinking time, but not often. Dominicans aren't big on "special offers" or discounts.
Charles Pooter
05-28-11, 17:56
Guess its a throw back from my military days. Been used to happy hours after missions, or when arriving in new places in Korea, Philippines. Seems the old timers always took pride in parading in the fresh meat (us) or "cherrys" to get them initiated or indoctrinated, or as we say "our intel briefing". Usually ended with a "happy hr". Sometimes even drink specials!So "happy hour" meaning "a threesome" is used all over the world, not just in the DR? I didn't know that. I had only heard it refer to a cheap booze time, but I never travelled outside Europe.
I sure as hell don't look for English food here (it is not too great even in England. LOL) though several places make an acceptable attempt at "fish and chips" on the North Coast.I have not had a good cup of tea yet in DR, black Assam tea, sugar and half and half. There used to a German baker in Sosua, off Pedro Clisante, not far from Passions, not sure if he is still open.
Many european guys prefer darker skin chicas. North Coast including Puerto Plata and Sosua has more darker skin chicas. In Santo Domingo I see very few Haitianas. Santo Domingo is a big city with some very fine chicas.
Thanks for reporting and have funYes, you are right Jaosousa : I prefer "mulatas" and there is a lot here in Sosua; and a lot of haîtians girls too, they seem more crazy and more strange than dominican girls, and all have extension hair, I mean artificial and beautiful long hair, perhaps to hide their original frizzy hair.
You're right too because there is more beautiful light skin in Santo Domingo, in the bars of avenida Venezuela, and in the strip clubs. Not my cup of tea.
Thanks to you
Charles Pooter
05-29-11, 01:48
I prefer "mulatas" and there are a lot here in SosuaHas anyone ever heard the word "mulatas" used by those living in the DR (whether Dominicans, Haitians, or established ex-pats)? I have been coming for six years including the last two living here, and I cannot ever recall having heard it except from newbies coming from other countries where it is used.
But I only know the North Coast. Maybe it is used in other areas or social groups?
Charles Pooter
05-29-11, 02:00
... a lot of Haitian girls too, they seem more crazy and more strange than Dominican girls, and all have extension hair, I mean artificial and beautiful long hair, perhaps to hide their original frizzy hair.My Haitian girlfriend does most anything to please me, but I cannot persuade her to stop using extensions. I don't see anything beautiful about them. I like women the way God made them without anything artificial (piercings, tattoos, breast implants, colored contact lenses, etc). I have yet to meet a Haitian who could afford top quality soft-hair extensions (they are incredibly expensive) and the cheaper ones are like wirewool, trap the sweat and stink after a time.
Not sure why you think haitianas are more crazy, unless you are mixing with drug takers. Avoid these! More strange? Maybe a bit, but their cultural background is different. If you were French you might feel they were less strange than dominicanas.
Has anyone ever heard the word "mulatas" used by those living in the DR (whether Dominicans, Haitians, or established ex-pats)? I have been coming for six years including the last two living here, and I cannot ever recall having heard it except from newbies coming from other countries where it is used.
But I only know the North Coast. Maybe it is used in other areas or social groups? Yes, mulatas is a brazilian term, used too in Colombia. Here in DR, morenas or negras
This is spot on. Yes, Sosua has changed, and in some ways for the better. But there's still tons of pussy available.This post is on the spot. Boots on the ground here with reports to follow. It is no way near the way it was last November; but plenty of women play with!
My Haitian girlfriend does most anything to please me, but I cannot persuade her to stop using extensions. I don't see anything beautiful about them. I like women the way God made them without anything artificial (piercings, tattoos, breast implants, colored contact lenses, etc). I have yet to meet a Haitian who could afford top quality soft-hair extensions (they are incredibly expensive) and the cheaper ones are like wirewool, trap the sweat and stink after a time.
Not sure why you think haitianas are more crazy, unless you are mixing with drug takers. Avoid these! More strange? Maybe a bit, but their cultural background is different. If you were French you might feel they were less strange than dominicanas.Chris Rock the comedian did a documentary about hair (probably on HBO) , which included segments about hair extensions. There is some temple in India where Indian woman go and have their hair shaved off. The hair is then sold to made into hair extensions and sold internationally. Lots of Dominican chicas also use hair extensions.
Stayed at NG and hardly left the place, enough putas to put a smile on my face daily. Bars at night had plenty to choose from, I just don't like staying out that late. Police were arresting the chicas day or night time walking down the street, especailly with a tourist. Not sure what they ever accomplish. I had about 12 chicas. The wicked looking one you would never show to your mama was the best actress etc, spinner of course. Finished the week with a gal with a great smile, big tits and a BJ ending with cmt. NG and all the hotels were slow, occupancy 20% to 50% at best. Tough times and off season. Staff at NG were excellent along with all the mongers that drop by or stay there. I like to Dive and used Dive Cabarete, pick you up in the AM and drop you back at the hotel just past noon, personal service, great staff. Met alot of mongers who stay in Sosua for weeks, not sure how they can last that long.
Sosua has changed some what, but there is plenty of putas to keep you happy. More police presence, but that is okay, keeps the trouble away.
Decided not to post pictures, just sent them to friends. Chicas don't want them posted and since I always return to the DR, need to keep them happy.
Stayed at NG and hardly left the place, enough putas to put a smile on my face daily. Bars at night had plenty to choose from, I just don't like staying out that late. Police were arresting the chicas day or night time walking down the street, especailly with a tourist. Not sure what they ever accomplish. I had about 12 chicas. The wicked looking one you would never show to your mama was the best actress etc, spinner of course. Finished the week with a gal with a great smile, big tits and a BJ ending with cmt. NG and all the hotels were slow, occupancy 20% to 50% at best. Tough times and off season. Staff at NG were excellent along with all the mongers that drop by or stay there. I like to Dive and used Dive Cabarete, pick you up in the AM and drop you back at the hotel just past noon, personal service, great staff. Met alot of mongers who stay in Sosua for weeks, not sure how they can last that long.
Sosua has changed some what, but there is plenty of putas to keep you happy. More police presence, but that is okay, keeps the trouble away.
Decided not to post pictures, just sent them to friends. Chicas don't want them posted and since I always return to the DR, need to keep them happy.Good post. I've been reading all week on DR1 about police at the discos at night harrassing the girls. But the last few reports seemed to leave this important fact out (Hmmm). Anyway glad you enjoyed yourself.
MiamiHeatLuver
05-29-11, 06:45
Police were arresting the chicas day or night time walking down the street, especailly with a tourist. Not sure what they ever accomplish
I thought they were leaving chicas ALONE if they were accompanied with a john? This contrary to what I've been reading. On what grounds would they have to approach a tourist and his girl? Sounds funny and unlikely but what if it really was your girlfriend? I would get highly offended. What happens to the John when they get interrogated and she is found to be a puta? Do you have to start making up corresponding stories with your puta? In some recent DR report thread I heard of some touristas being arrested as well? This is some real B. S.
SavePros321
05-29-11, 08:34
Police were arresting the chicas day or night time walking down the street, especailly with a tourist. Not sure what they ever accomplish.Maybe they are weeding out (arresting) girls that they don't control, leaving you to pick through the ones they (the police) are pimping. It could very well turn out that the freelancers in the New Sou. aren't in fact freelancers at all! What else could explain why some girls are arrested while others aren't?
With places like CMP and La Passions,"strong-arming / controlling pussy" might be the new business model for the town. Irregardless of the fact that most chicas spend their money on clothes, the salon, and other bullshit, they were still making money hand-over-fist in the old Sosua, with the only middle man being her boyfriend or family member. Now you've got the police up your ass at ever corner (guess they were feeling left out). Earlier this week someone reported Johns are being arrested as well; it's only a matter of time before the "shake-down" reports start to roll in.
Other than that, I'm not sure why the place looks to be becoming more and more like a police state. Enjoy it while you can.
P.S.: I do not believe we have witnessed the total transformation of the New Sosua just yet. With chicas being "selectively arrested" I think the aim is more psychological than anything. Doesn't sound like they want to "tolerate" the nightlife scene there. Just slowly chip away at it until eventually you have what Mr. Gogo is predicting: 100 mongers and 25 chicas. At that point it's "game over" lol.
It worked with the streetwalker scene in SD. Just saying.
On another note, I hate these american bitches! Stuck up ho's for no reason. Average looks and no money. That is why I fuck them and flee. They expect the world and give little in return. I'm tired of playing the game with them. I would really love to explore the entire DR and not just the mongering areas. I think this country has soo much to offer. Much more than a cheap fuck! I'm real jealous of BBL.[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree with you more man!
maybe they are weeding out (arresting) girls that they don't control, leaving you to pick through the ones they (the police) are pimping. it could very well turn out that the freelancers in the new sou. aren't in fact freelancers at all! what else could explain why some girls are arrested while others aren't?
with places like cmp and la passions,"strong-arming / controlling pussy" might be the new business model for the town. irregardless of the fact that most chicas spend their money on clothes, the salon, and other bullshit, they were still making money hand-over-fist in the old sosua, with the only middle man being her boyfriend or family member. now you've got the police up your ass at ever corner (guess they were feeling left out). earlier this week someone reported johns are being arrested as well; it's only a matter of time before the "shake-down" reports start to roll in.
other than that, i'm not sure why the place looks to be becoming more and more like a police state. enjoy it while you can.
p. s. : i do not believe we have witnessed the total transformation of the new sosua just yet. with chicas being "selectively arrested" i think the aim is more psychological than anything. doesn't sound like they want to "tolerate" the nightlife scene there. just slowly chip away at it until eventually you have what mr. gogo is predicting: 100 mongers and 25 chicas. at that point it's "game over" lol.
it worked with the streetwalker scene in sd. just saying. they picked the holiday, when alot of people are traveling, to make sure the point is made. now you can't even leave classicos without your girl being questioned. pretty soon its going to be pussy only at la passions and cmp.
anyone on the ground soon please pay attention to how many non dominican women are partying at night.
also i just read that a couple retired canadian cops have just been hired for traffic control wtf. they are working cabarette now, with more possibly headed to sosua. could the next thing be "mongerer police"? they will search you for condoms, break down your room door to confirep001e you lube and porn, and have chicas undercover tricking to do a reverse sting. or a mongerer paddy wagon with mongerers in it looking depressed as they parade us around sosua. nah just talking shit so newbies don't be scared, just have the mongerers attorney on retainer lmao.
I thought they were leaving chicas ALONE if they were accompanied with a john? This contrary to what I've been reading. On what grounds would they have to approach a tourist and his girl? Sounds funny and unlikely but what if it really was your girlfriend? I would get highly offended. What happens to the John when they get interrogated and she is found to be a puta? Do you have to start making up corresponding stories with your puta? In some recent DR report thread I heard of some touristas being arrested as well? This is some real B. S.An ISG member posted info from an article in which the commander of the Politur for Sosua said there had been around 200 arrests of chicas and 5 arrests of foreigners. I read part of the article and did not see anything about the foreigners being arrested in regards to prostitution. I have been in Sosua and seen drunk foreign guys get into fights and I have seen the police come and take the drunk fighters away.
I have not read anything about any guys being arrested for soliciting or using the services of prostitutes with adult women in the DR.
I can remember posts of guys being ripped off by some DR chicas in Sosua, pickpockets or stealing stuff from a guy's hotel room in Sosua. If the police can weed out the chicas who are would be thieves, then that is a good thing.
Fat, ugly chicas grabbing your nut sack hard as you walk on the sidewalk is not always a pleasant experience.
I will be in Sosua in August. I have always been very picky and only go for the skinny HARD BODY types. I'm talking about the girls that have close to 0% body fat and super flat stomach's. Skinny all around. *especially* the light skinned ones. Very tight but, and skinny legs. Perhaps even a nice gap between the legs. You guys know what I'm talking about.
Does anyone know a specific girl they can recommend. Or better yet, want to share contact information of one that would like to hang out for a week in my private villa? The problem is that the Villa is in an AI resort, so I would rather check-in with someone from day one than try to go through the hassle of getting her in later.
Good post. I've been reading all week on DR1 about police at the discos at night harrassing the girls. But the last few reports seemed to leave this important fact out (Hmmm). Anyway glad you enjoyed yourself.Nikkon and Tomjackin are on the ground in Sosua and they post there are plenty of pros available. Mose, Combo, Manizales and Charles Pooter also post that mongering is not bad in Sosua now. Jfregedie was recently in Sosua and I believe he posted that he loves Sosua and seems he had a blast there.
I really can't remember reading a recent Sosua trip report that says it is terrible for mongering currently.
Good post. I've been reading all week on DR1 about police at the discos at night harrassing the girls. But the last few reports seemed to leave this important fact out (Hmmm). Anyway glad you enjoyed yourself.I personally don't like that other site and very rarely do I read that site. There are people on that other site who are highly anti-mongering and they may write stuff that benefits their personal agenda. Some may own real estate in parts of the DR and their agenda might be to discourage mongering activities with the hopes that the value of their estate might go up.
Not looking good for my trip in July. Since I bought my plane ticket and got room already I guess I'm stuck in Sosua. Are there any cities near by where you can get a chick easily without worrying about police or risk getting arrested?
Good post. I've been reading all week on DR1 about police at the discos at night harrassing the girls. But the last few reports seemed to leave this important fact out (Hmmm). Anyway glad you enjoyed yourself.I went and read some of the forums on that other site, I saw one thread started by a guy who said a friend told him the police are turning up the heat in Sosua, (whatever that means and the guy who posted that is not even in Sosua). I didn't see anything about police entering discos in Sosua harassing people. If you can email the link for where you read that, it would appreciated.
Not looking good for my trip in July. Since I bought my plane ticket and got room already I guess I'm stuck in Sosua. Are there any cities near by where you can get a chick easily without worrying about police or risk getting arrested?Six experienced Mongers have posted reports recently saying that there is plenty of pussy in Sosua, you seem to only focus on the posts that imply Sosua is not good for mongering.
If a guy can't get pussy in Sosua, I'll buy that guy a bottle of patron tequila.
Charles Pooter
05-29-11, 19:55
Nikkon and Tomjackin are on the ground in Sosua and they post there are plenty of pros available. Mose, Combo, Manizales and Charles Pooter Also post that mongering is not bad in Sosua now. Jfregedie was recently in Sosua and I believe he posted that he loves Sosua and seems he had a blast there.
I really can't remember reading a recent Sosua trip report that says it is terrible for mongering currently. Flattering to be named as someone whose opinion counts, but I must say that I know fuck all about the current scene in Sosua from first-hand experience as I am stuck at home in Puerto Plata after my operation. But I do read the two main monger boards covering the town, and have friends actually living there whom I speak to most days, so I can get a consensus assessment which is better than just one man's opinion. My assessment is that all the doom and gloom is wildly exaggerrated and that newbies will still have a great time (unless they fuck it up for themselves).
But that is now. What the near future will bring I have no idea. There are all sorts of conspiracy theories. And if there is a marked change in policy or police procedures overnight, I will be the last to know.
Stayed at NG and hardly left the place, enough putas to put a smile on my face daily. Bars at night had plenty to choose from, I just don't like staying out that late.
Sosua has changed some what, but there is plenty of putas to keep you happy. More police presence, but that is okay, keeps the trouble away. Thanks for the post.
Amb832,
You will have a blast. Remember though, during the week there might only be 100 girls to choose from instead of 300, hahaha. It's kind of like going to the candy store and instead of having 20 kinds of bubblegum the store is now only carrying 15, who gives a shit, I still have 15 kinds to choose from which is plenty in my opinion.
One of my wingmen just got back from Sosua on Friday and he told me Peter has cleaned house once again at Passions, about thirty new girls and quite a few stunners.
How many new putas do you need to fuck each day? If more than ten per day then consider going somewhere else. Anything less and you will find all you need in Sosua at affordable prices.
Hi guys, sorry for my english because I'm european, but believer of this forum that I appreciate, newbie in Sosua but old monger (Thaďland, Brazil eight times, Colombia and now Dominican Republic).
I arrived in Sosua Thursday night, and when I read that it's dead, I think it's exaggerated. Sure, perhaps for those who know Sosua the past years, but for me who arrive for the first time, it's great! Yesterday by example, I went in La Passions and they were twenties cuties and young ladies available, and a lot of girls too on the street Pedro Clisante, and on other clubs.
I finished my night in disco Classico, and I think there was 50-80-grils for 10-20 guys only, then a lot of choice and I think 5-10 very, very, beautifiul ladies.
Today I went to the beach, and I seen or talk with 5-10 grils available, and I seen too 10 girls available at 2pm on the main street with bars, Pedro Clisante. For unluck, it'ts raining all the afternoon, what not encourage the girls to come on the town.
Then Sosua it's dead perhaps compared to the past, but I think there is again a lot of things to do with chicas, nights and days! And it's better than Santo Domingo where I stayed yet three weeks. Better level of beauties, that sure, and better choice.
IMHO, of course.
Nikkon
This is spot on. Yes, Sosua has changed, and in some ways for the better. But there's still tons of pussy available.
This post is on the spot. Boots on the ground here with reports to follow. It is no way near the way it was last November; but plenty of women play with!
Charles Pooter
05-29-11, 20:06
not looking good for my trip in july. since i bought my plane ticket and got room already i guess i'm stuck in sosua. are there any cities near by where you can get a chick easily without worrying about police or risk getting arrested?you stand no chance of getting arrested unless you behave disgustingly, do drugs, are involved in fights, pick up **** girls, etc. stop thinking like a browbeaten american and act like a man.
whether any chica with you will get arrested is a different matter. i don't believe some of the more alarmist posts, though it is obviously going on spasmodically. but that is not your problem unless you choose to make it so. just walk away and find another one. there are still plenty as current reports are showing.
puerto plata is more laid back but lacks the convenience of sosua for newbies where all is concentrated within one square mile.
relax, friend. you will have a great time. is it your first visit? just meet up with mongers at the new garden or shark bar (is it open?) or rockys or black box and they will get you started.
I went and read some of the forums on that other site, I saw one thread started by a guy who said a friend told him the police are turning up the heat in Sosua, (whatever that means and the guy who posted that is not even in Sosua). I didn't see anything about police entering discos in Sosua harassing people. If you can email the link for where you read that, it would appreciated.I'm at a marathon poker game so I don't have to much time now to be pulling up other posts. I never said police were entering the discos, I said they were at the discos. Some guy posted that 4 policemen were at the bottom of Classicos harassing chicas. There are actually two threads on dr1 about this. I give more creditability to DR1 over ISG because they have more people living there now, and you would get called if you made up a story about heavy police presence. All ISG has is Charles in Puerto plata who rarely goes to Sosua.
I went and read some of the forums on that other site, I saw one thread started by a guy who said a friend told him the police are turning up the heat in Sosua, (whatever that means and the guy who posted that is not even in Sosua). I didn't see anything about police entering discos in Sosua harassing people. If you can email the link for where you read that, it would appreciated.I'm at a marathon poker game so I don't have to much time now to be pulling up other posts. I never said police were entering the discos, I said they were at the discos. Some guy posted that 4 policemen were at the bottom of Classicos harassing chicas. There are actually two threads on dr1 about this. I give more creditability to DR1 over ISG because they have more people living there now, and you would get called if you made up a story about heavy police presence. All ISG has is Charles in Puerto plata who rarely goes to Sosua.
Bud Leeeeeeee
05-29-11, 21:37
Landed at noon on a Thurs. Stayed a terra linda. 69$ king can be had if you pay cash. Only place I have ever stayed. Clean and good food. No hotel chica problems ever. Just make sure they are of age. They do check the I'd's an ages.
Went straight to passions at 1pm. Only one girl. Got a 1300 1hr massage w BBBJ she was skinny a little dark but with perfect natural tits and great eyes and smile and teeth and hair. Drank presidente waiting for the A team. Seemed like 3 girls at 2pm. 5 girls at 3pm took another massage w BBBJ short girl light skin w big ass and also young. Maybe 20yrs. Place was full around 5-6ish. Girls are real cute and fun. Love to pay the 1300 for massage and BBBJ. Stupid not too. Use to be 1500 but with CMP opening down the road and charging 1500 this place drop their price to 1300. Thats what I think happened anyway. The 1hr fuck for 2500 is good too. Thats what all the girls are shooting for. I tipped the 1300 massage 500 each time. I told them in advance when they are trying to sell me the 2500 hour. I was say 500 propina if best effort on BBBJ. Lick and suck ball etc. Both times girls worked up quite a sweat to get
That extra 500 propina. If they started jerking it too much I would say 500 propina for best suck not jerk job. 1800 for massage and BBBJ is not bad guys. Sorry guys I know you all don't want to hear that. They were super happy knowing the propina was going to happen. Sometimes I noticed they looked sad going in for the 1300 massage. Again they really want the 2500 hr fuck.
So if you going to get picky come after 6pm for sure. The girls here are FUN and HOT. Can't beat it really. Went to crystals to compare will add to report later. So stayed until later and got takeout with hot tall light beauty. She isn't on website. Most girls aren't. There was 1 girl from Argentina and venezula too. Girl I got takeout with gave the best and wettest BBBJ ever. She smelled great. Used condom for fuck. She was great I took her out again the next night. Anal both nights with this girl too. Not too long tho I am not really into anal too much. Nice to know they are 3 holers tho. She stuck it in herself. These DR girls bring the heat way more then the mexican girls in Tijuana! Or anywhere I have ever been for P4P.
Friday friend flew in from FL. It was his first time to DR. He already has a ticket to go again in Nov LOL. So he wanted to go to beach immediatley. So up and down the beach lookn for seats w view of more girls. Just not much on the beach. So hot girl talks us into her beach chairs. She serves us food and drinks. I ask her to join. We all drink big presidente. I ask her back and we go fuck 1500. She showered up nice and suck and fucked me good. Another tight hot 20yr old. Luv it. Brang toys they all loved the magic wand. Everyone should have one. Took friend to passions. Did the massage w takeout girl from other night. Then at 10pm I buy her out again. So same girl thur and Friday. Mmmmmmmmm almost fell for her. So much fun and she hung on every word during our conversation. Decided to move on the rest of my time there. I was really falling for this girl.
Sat am massage w HE from haitan girl in massage store. Got to kick down some funds to the haitans on each visit. Luv grabbn that muscle ass while they suck me off at end of massage. Sat night at classicos. Took hottie to casino club. Did a somehing that wasn't beer with her for hell of it. Ruined my night. Dick not hard and no sleep and felt like shit most of Sunday! Could of ruined most of my short vacation. Never again. Not good for dick or sleep. Gave her agreed 4000 to leave at 10am after still no hard-on LOL. Put some toys on her for 5min but just wasn't into it. Upset at myself more then anything.
Sunday am felt like shit from sat night. Got massage an still came but I had to go in for the assist. Didn't think I would even get hard. Went to crystals in puerta plata 8pmish. Slow compared to passions. Girls not as hot and no customers. Girls will mob you. Only one option 100$ US for fuck. Took crazy allstar dancer there paualo cause I was tired of being mobbed by big horney girls. She sucked me off in 12min. Kept me hard fuckn and sucking the whole time. Best sex I ever had. Put ice on my dick etc. Crazy fun girl. Anal on menu but more $. I just let her fuck and suck me. She did alot of anal play. Sucking my dick from behind while I am in doggie. LOL tonguing my ass a ton. She was short and light skinned w red hair and freckles. She went nuts and never even broke a sweat. She sang most the time and was super passionate. Still like passions better but go try this gem. WOW!
Just to be sure went to passions one more time immediatly after Crystals. Girls better at passions. Left passions for one more classico run. Wasn't going to get a girl since I was nutted out. Girl in classico talked me into long slow BBBJ for whatever I wanted to pay. I give in and she is sucking me and got tired in 10min. She said lets fuck I said ok. We fuck for 5 min and I wasn't into it. I put toys on her and she complained. I gave her 2000 and told her to just go. She said NO we fucked I want 4000. L laughed and she called pimp and started to get loud. I gave her another 1000 and decided just to stick to passions in the future. You can always talk to their bosses if they do something real stupid.
Be careful hookn up with the classico girls. So make sure you set the price and you know what you are getting for that price. I can see the girl wanting more money for fuckn but she was only there for 20-min and I paid 3000. LOL she was dark and had a tattoo that looked like a Van Halen symbol on her back. So whatever I guess I deserved that last bit. Since I didn't really solidify what I wanted and for how much. I just brushed it off and thought of Paulo at Crystals and all the fun I had at passions.
CMP looked like crap. Went in 3 times and didn't even get a beer. I wanted to but not 1 girl I would want a BBBJ with. Never saw any girls getting hauled away. Did she politurs and bikes and trucks. The were giving the motorcycle guys a hard time too. Daytime pussy can still be found but not as abundant. 1/10 of the street action when I went 1 yr ago. Massage and beach ass is still there to be had. You just won't have a girl grabbn your nuts while you drink a beer in the daytime. NOticed many places closed that were open last visit.
Sorry for bad english and punctuation. Tired an watching Indy 500. I am out! Luv Sosua. DR girls ROCK at least at Passions. Classico's can get tricky at times. I speak very little spanish.
Charlie Horse
05-29-11, 22:54
Not looking good for my trip in July. Since I bought my plane ticket and got room already I guess I'm stuck in Sosua. Are there any cities near by where you can get a chick easily without worrying about police or risk getting arrested?Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbZEkFLXh9Y
Thanks. I needed that. Guess I'm listening to the wrong folks too much. I will have fun.
SavePros321
05-29-11, 23:41
I will be in Sosua in August. I have always been very picky and only go for the skinny HARD BODY types. I'm talking about the girls that have close to 0% body fat and super flat stomach's. Skinny all around. *especially* the light skinned ones. Very tight but, and skinny legs. Perhaps even a nice gap between the legs. You guys know what I'm talking about.
Does anyone know a specific girl they can recommend. Or better yet, want to share contact information of one that would like to hang out for a week in my private villa? The problem is that the Villa is in an AI resort, so I would rather check-in with someone from day one than try to go through the hassle of getting her in later. Your best bet are Haitian chicas. They fit this description perfectly. The problem is, I don't know how many have already been run off because of the arrest. Can't help you in the "light-skinned" department though.
Flattering to be named as someone whose opinion counts, but I must say that I know fuck all about the current scene in Sosua from first-hand experience as I am stuck at home in Puerto Plata after my operation. But I do read the two main monger boards covering the town, and have friends actually living there whom I speak to most days, so I can get a consensus assessment which is better than just one man's opinion. My assessment is that all the doom and gloom is wildly exaggerrated and that newbies will still have a great time (unless they fuck it up for themselves).
But that is now. What the near future will bring I have no idea. There are all sorts of conspiracy theories. And if there is a marked change in policy or police procedures overnight, I will be the last to know. One more time, I can tell you what Ilived in Sosua : 3 nights and 3 days walking on the Pedro Clissante street with a lot of chicas available, and ZERO police control for me. I went in El Flow, Latinos, CMP, La Passion and others bars, and finishing the monger-nights in Classicos, at 3 or 4 am ech time, ZERO police control.
I went back to my hôtel 3 times with chicas, two times walking with them on the street at 3 or 4 am for ten minits, ZERO police control. No police in Classicos and other bars during the nights, that what I lived.
One morning, two policemen were front my hôtel and stop "friendly" my chica in the street, with smiles and jokes, but not speaking to me. I was a little worriend for her, and I called on her phone : "Have you problems with the police? Do you want to come back at the hôtel." She said me : "No, don't worry, they just want some money, because these thieves know that if I'm leaving the hôtel on the morning, I have money with me. But I'm used to this, and I let them politely."
I think just that before all was possible, and now there is less tolerance : with chicas too much visible, drunk or extravagants in the streets, with minors of course and with Haîtianas in irregular situation. By example, in my hôtel, they said me that now they can't accept a chica without a I'd like before, ant they have to registrate seriously the chicas, every time.
But in my case, two of the three chicas had no I'd or old papers, but I went with them nevertheless in the room because the hôtel staff was embarrassed but very friendly. They just said me that the things were no not so "open" than before, and that they have more control now about the chicas.
Then, IMHO, Sosua is sitll a monger-paradise. Perhaps just different. Like in Gazcue with a policy and morality pression. (due to the next elections in 2012.)
All this to contribute to the information, and one more time sorry for my poor english school.
Manizales911
05-30-11, 02:20
I will be in Sosua in August. I have always been very picky and only go for the skinny HARD BODY types. I'm talking about the girls that have close to 0% body fat and super flat stomach's. Skinny all around. *especially* the light skinned ones. Very tight but, and skinny legs. Perhaps even a nice gap between the legs. You guys know what I'm talking about.
Does anyone know a specific girl they can recommend. Or better yet, want to share contact information of one that would like to hang out for a week in my private villa? The problem is that the Villa is in an AI resort, so I would rather check-in with someone from day one than try to go through the hassle of getting her in later.It would be a big help if you could also tell us more of your desires in order for us to help you. I have provided with you with a short list.
Hair color.
Length of finger nails.
Eye color.
Big nose / small nose.
Inny or outty belly button.
You know, the important stuff, hahaha.
An ISG member posted info from an article in which the commander of the Politur for Sosua said there had been around 200 arrests of chicas and 5 arrests of foreigners. I read part of the article and did not see anything about the foreigners being arrested in regards to prostitution. I have been in Sosua and seen drunk foreign guys get into fights and I have seen the police come and take the drunk fighters away.
I have not read anything about any guys being arrested for soliciting or using the services of prostitutes with adult women in the DR.
I can remember posts of guys being ripped off by some DR chicas in Sosua, pickpockets or stealing stuff from a guy's hotel room in Sosua. If the police can weed out the chicas who are would be thieves, then that is a good thing.
Fat, ugly chicas grabbing your nut sack hard as you walk on the sidewalk is not always a pleasant experience.Jao it's called "Dick Dodging", and it's one of the games we have to play when we put ourselves in an open air sex market. It's kind of like a beautiful girl that has guys touching her shoulder, looking at her ass, and asking what her name is. She learns to manuever in this enviornment. It's just funny that guy's go on sex vacation then get offended when sex is offered aggressively (just say no and keep walking). I worry more about a girl stealing my money.
I thought they were leaving chicas ALONE if they were accompanied with a john? This contrary to what I've been reading. On what grounds would they have to approach a tourist and his girl? Sounds funny and unlikely but what if it really was your girlfriend? I would get highly offended. What happens to the John when they get interrogated and she is found to be a puta? Do you have to start making up corresponding stories with your puta? In some recent DR report thread I heard of some touristas being arrested as well? This is some real B. S.Saw a chica get arrested around 3 pm yesterday near the liquor store. There are less chicas out during the day and some chicas are still scared at night as well of walking alone, but guys are getting phone numbers and having private pool parties and such during the day. Still not overwhelmed with the food options but things have improved. The strip is hopping at night and After One is also happening. The guys from NYC that overpay and the WU guys, I think, are actually bringing in better talent overall because the word has been getting out around the island that there is a lot of money to be made in Sosua. Saw lots of crews of 10 guys hanging together on the weekends. Maybe like 10 groups like this. Still like the talent level in CR better for mongering, but the overall talent in the DR is top notch. Met a lot of "non putas" the last few days that are nice enough for a serious relationship. Many good putas in town also. Overall, the chicas seem to be quoting 2, 000 and up for TLN, unless you have something going on. Guys are certainly paying 2, 000 for short time as well and places like Pasions seem to go 2, 500 and up for4 take out. If you shop around and have game you can get for 1, 000 short time and maybe TLN. I noticed supply exceeded demand on Monday and Tuesday so prices seemed to be more favorable and still good selection. Experienced and / or well connected Sosua mongers won't be affected by any of the BS. The new dudes won't have a frame of reference so I say overall still a good trip if you can afford the airfare.
One more note: less chicas out during the day may present more opportunities for the so-called tour guides that offer to help you find chicas. Be careful with these dudes and remember that at the end of the day you may be paying them for something you can get or find out about on your own. In fact, if you follow sites like this you usually know as much or more than these dudes, but they can be pets and scam artists. Be careful if someone offers you something for free in Sosua, especially if its a dude. Remember. There is always free cheese in a mouse trap.
Hillbilly69
05-30-11, 11:24
An ISG member posted info from an article in which the commander of the Politur for Sosua said there had been around 200 arrests of chicas and 5 arrests of foreigners. I read part of the article and did not see anything about the foreigners being arrested in regards to prostitution.Sosua News had the aryicle on same day. http://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=2595&article=1
I was under the impression the 'Foreigners' were Colombian or Russian chicas seeing there is more of them now.
Colombian girls can freely travel to the Dominican Republic there is no qualifications all they need is a Passport and it is easy to get.
Not saying it could of been men arrested but I am thinking no.
Mr Enternational
05-30-11, 14:42
My Haitian girlfriend does most anything to please me, but I cannot persuade her to stop using extensions. I don't see anything beautiful about them. I like women the way God made them without anything artificial (piercings, tattoos, breast implants, colored contact lenses, etc). I hate the extensions as well. And that is part of the reason I stopped dating Americans. But I must admit they are widely used here in Thailand and many girls had them in Brazil as well. I don't think they have caught on on other Latin American countries though. If you can't beat em... Fuck em.
I hate the extensions as well. And that is part of the reason I stopped dating Americans. But I must admit they are widely used here in Thailand and many girls had them in Brazil as well. I don't think they have caught on on other Latin American countries though. If you can't beat em... Fuck em.I saw many chicas with extensions and some even with wigs in Sosua. A couple of chicas at Pasions told me the boss preferred it because longer hair makes them look more sexy. The difference between a Dominican chica in the DR and the typical weaved up AA babe in the US is that the chica in Sosua will often still have wash and wear soft hair so you can take out the extensions and just let the hair grow naturally. Haitians are a different story. Just about ever Haitian I saw in Sosua had fake hair. I also noticed there are a lot more Haitians in Clasicos these days. Just an observation, but I'm not attracted to them.
Charles Pooter
05-30-11, 16:09
Thanks for the report Bud. Glad you enjoyed yourself.
Paola (currently at Cristal) is great, isn't she? In six years coming here I have only met a handful of putas who are technically good 3-holers but haven't gone hard-core in their general attitude. A real fun companion in and out of bed. I haven't met anyone who has a bad word for her. The guys all leave her drained! No great looker, though, until she starts dancing.
Gave her agreed 4000 to leave at 10am after still no hard-on ... Only one option 100$ US for fuck ... she was only there for 20-min and I paid 3000.There is a job vacancy for you at the IMF. You have all the qualifications needed. Lots of testosterone and familiarity with very large sums of money with lots of zeros on the end.
I hate the extensions as well. And that is part of the reason I stopped dating Americans. But I must admit they are widely used here in Thailand and many girls had them in Brazil as well. I don't think they have caught on on other Latin American countries though. If you can't beat em... Fuck em.Only hair I care about is pussy hair, I'm tired of shaved pussies.
I never said police were entering the discos, I said they were at the discos. Some guy posted that 4 policemen were at the bottom of Classicos harassing chicas. There are actually two threads on dr1 about this. I give more creditability to DR1 over ISG because they have more people living there now, and you would get called if you made up a story about heavy police presence. All ISG has is Charles in Puerto plata who rarely goes to Sosua.I have lived in Sosua for the last 1.5 years. And a frequent visitor for 9 years. Periodically, the Poli-Pussys invade Bar Central.
Jao it's called "Dick Dodging", and it's one of the games we have to play when we put ourselves in an open air sex market. It's kind of like a beautiful girl that has guys touching her shoulder, looking at her ass, and asking what her name is. She learns to manuever in this enviornment. It's just funny that guy's go on sex vacation then get offended when sex is offered aggressively (just say no and keep walking). I worry more about a girl stealing my money.You have memories of old Sosua and I have memories of old-old sosua. One night my wingman and I were walking to our hotel, we were walking by the building that would become terra linda hotel (back then it was just an empty dark building) , it was around 2am, the street was dark and some chica comes out of nowhere and palms the groin of my wingman very hard, he did not see the chica till the last minute and he was not expecting her to use such force on his junk. It caused him pain and discomfort, he was ready to punch her in the face. If he would have punched her and possibly broken her nose or knocked her teeth out, that would be bad for her and she would probably go to the police.
If in the "New" Sosua with a greater police presence, if such things like this can be prevented, it is best for all involved.
Or maybe my wingman should have been wearing an athletic cup and a pair of night vision goggles.
I have lived in Sosua for the last 1.5 years. And a frequent visitor for 9 years. Periodically, the Poli-Pussys invade Bar Central.Thats right I forgot you were boots on the ground, and I think Ricky Rapido lives in one of the surrounding towns.
So Sidney don't forget to let us know when New Garden has an Easter egg hunt for the children and Classicos is turned into the cultural arts center LMAO.
There are actually two threads on dr1 about this. I give more creditability to DR1 over ISG because they have more people living there now, and you would get called if you made up a story about heavy police presence. All ISG has is Charles in Puerto plata who rarely goes to Sosua.When I want Monger information, I read the ISG. Most guys on the ISG have no ulterior motive to post false or misleading information.
I've been reading all week on DR1 about police at the discos at night harrassing the girls. But the last few reports seemed to leave this important fact out (Hmmm). Anyway glad you enjoyed yourself.
I never said police were entering the discos, I said they were at the discos. Some guy posted that 4 policemen were at the bottom of Classicos harassing chicas. There are actually two threads on dr1 about this. I give more creditability to DR1 over ISG because they have more people living there now, and you would get called if you made up a story about heavy police presence. All ISG has is Charles in Puerto plata who rarely goes to Sosua.I went and re-read the forums from that other site. One guy on that other site started a thread about the police crackdown in sosua from information he got from his friend. Another person on that other site said 4 police were at the entrance of Classicos and that person also wrote that the police were all over Pedro Clisante Street arresting ALL the chicas. The person on the other site said the police were arresting ALL the chicas, this doesn't jibe with what I have been reading here on the ISG.
If you prefer to believe what is written on that other site, that is your choice.
Bayoutony65
05-30-11, 21:07
Hello, All, new to this. Been to the DR once before but went to Puerto Plata. Heading to Sousa this time. Can anyone recommend a good hotel there. One that won't give you any flack for bringing women in?
Hello, All, new to this. Been to the DR once before but went to Puerto Plata. Heading to Sousa this time. Can anyone recommend a good hotel there. One that won't give you any flack for bringing women in?Your best bet as a newbie is probably New Garden. There are actually chicas right on site if you don't want to go far and its centrally located to the bars. You can google the website. The breakfast comes with the room and is pretty good also. There are about 15 other hotels that are also chica friendly. NG is a good starting point to meet other mongers as well.
Don Antonio
05-31-11, 00:25
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It doesn't get more convenient than this, the true point and click!
And you are guaranteed to end up w / a chica that has at least somewhat of a brain, and drive, to engage the Internet in her entrepreneurial efforts.
Yenni — 06:48 PM.
HOLA.
Don Antonio — 06:49 PM.
Hola, como estas?
Yenni — 07:00 PM.
BIN Y TU.
Don Antonio — 07:02 PM.
No estoy muy bien. Por eso, estoy en Estados Unidos ahora pero voy a regresar a Sosua el miercoles Cuando tu yo yo vamos a ver la luna juntos?
Yenni — 07:02 PM Yenni sent this message because you have a mutual attraction in the Encounters game!
HOLA.
Yenni — 07:03 PM.
PARA DONDE VIENE.
Don Antonio — 07:04 PM.
No entiendo,"para donde viene".
Yenni — 07:04 PM.
K PARTE DE SOSUA.
Don Antonio — 07:05 PM.
Inicialmente Caribe Campo, El Batey.
Yenni — 07:05 PM.
OK.
Don Antonio — 07:07 PM.
Tu pienses que es un bueno lugar para verla la luna?
Yenni — 07:07 PM.
EN LA PICINA.
Don Antonio — 07:08 PM.
A la noche.
Yenni — 07:10 PM.
CUANDO TU KERE VERME.
Don Antonio — 07:13 PM.
Llamame o mandarme un mensaje despues de miercoles de esta semana. Mi telefono mobil. 829-xxxxxxx.
Don Antonio — 07:13 PM.
Hasta pronto, amor.
Yenni — 07:14.
809 xxxxxxx.
Don Antonio — 07:14 PM.
Gracias, yo lo recibe.
Yenni — 07:16.
ME LLAMA
Is sosua have short term rooms upto three hours for taking girls.
Is sosua have short term rooms upto three hours for taking girls.Yes, there are several, including "Love" and Cafe Central has rooms behind it. I've heard there are some more down towards the Casino at Playa Chiquita.
Is sosua have short term rooms upto three hours for taking girls.How much are you trying to spend? You can get a cheap room for $25 or less in Sosua. There is also a Cabana nearby but I don 't know their prices.
How much are you trying to spend? You can get a cheap room for $25 or less in Sosua. There is also a Cabana nearby but I don 't know their prices.I am going to stay at All inclusive and need a place for 3 hours a day to spend time with girl
Hillbilly69
05-31-11, 01:48
I am going to stay at All inclusive and need a place for 3 hours a day to spend time with girlBar Central right next to Classicos, Calypso Hotel near the double banks towards Passions.
DlovestheDR
05-31-11, 03:13
It was my 6th trip to Sosua in the last 12 months. Although the daytime chica population has shrunk, I saw little to no difference otherwise.
I spent quite a bit of time in CMP. The owner has redone the place adding huge leather couches to hang out in. Most of the girls will leave you alone on the couch until you ask one of them to come over. Drank a few 100 peso Presidente's and met a real hottie who had red hair and a great smile. Paid her exit fee and took her home for the night. She was amazing, great BBBJTC and she rode me like I was a stallion. She was ready to go in the middle of the night and again in the morning, whenever I asked. I have no complaints at all. I went to Passions (lots of girls later at night but if you try before 5 or 6pm, they are empty)
Late nights at Classico each night and took home hotties each night for 2000. 3000. Each time I told her that I would pay 2000 for TLN but if she was amazing, I"the pay her 3000. Each girls worked her ass off for that extra 1, 000. I agree that making sure that the chica knows how much she is going to make ahead of time. Negotiating after the fact will always cause a scene and sometimes will cost you extra just to get the chica out of your hair.
I walked on many streets with my chicas and didn't see any police or politur at all. The only politur we saw was on the main road from Sosua to Cabarete stopping the moto drivers. THe chica who was with me told me that they are checking for moto licenses.
My chicas each night told me that they had to deal with the politur infrequently and only one had been arrested once.
I have read this site for the last 4 months (since my last visit in January) and heard about the huge changes in Sosua but the only change (less chicas grabbing me during the day) was pretty welcome. For the day time action, I used numbers I collected the night before in one case and in the other two, I told the chica from the night before that I wanted a 24 hour visit and that I didn't expect them to leave til 6pm. So, I had a guest for breakfast and lunch, with lots of fun in between and then she left at 6pm and I got ready for the next evening's action.
I'm ready to go back.
Maybe they are weeding out (arresting) girls that they don't control, leaving you to pick through the ones they (the police) are pimping. It could very well turn out that the freelancers in the New Sou. aren't in fact freelancers at all! What else could explain why some girls are arrested while others aren't?Wouldn't surprise me if some of the politur or the policia nacional in Sosua, were shaking down pros for money or free sex. Most Politur and Policia Nacional get very low wages. Probably why Sosua will always have prostitution, some Policia and some Politur have a vested interest in the prostitution business in Sosua. Some pros in Sosua will probably raise their rates to cover their added operating expenses (shakedown money to the policia). Seems monger dollars will be supporting chicas and policia nacional and politur officers.
Only hair I care about is pussy hair, I'm tired of shaved pussies.Then you might be better off in Cuba, was there a couple of years ago and most pussies were hairy
Is Sosua Bay Club a guest friendly hotel? I haven't seen any recent reviews about this hotel. How far is it from all the action?
Fistmaster
05-31-11, 15:39
Anybody knows when the next bikini shows at NG or any other place in Sosua? Will be there from 2-16 June.
AlwaysHorny 2
05-31-11, 17:36
Trying to organize a mid day trip to Blackbeards on Thursday. Including my buddies, it will be 3 of us. If we can get another 3 to split the transportation costs, that would be cool. Thinking of meeting up around 1 pm at Baileys.
Can someone recommend a good driver with a van and let me know the rates?
Also, I think I read somewhere that Blackbeards doesn't allow for short term rental. How is take-out handled? Do the chicas give out there number?
Lastly, is the bikini contest still held?
Thanks!
SavePros321
05-31-11, 18:19
Wouldn't surprise me if some of the politur or the policia nacional in Sosua, were shaking down pros for money or free sex. Most Politur and Policia Nacional get very low wages. Probably why Sosua will always have prostitution, some Policia and some Politur have a vested interest in the prostitution business in Sosua. Some pros in Sosua will probably raise their rates to cover their added operating expenses (shakedown money to the policia). Seems monger dollars will be supporting chicas and policia nacional and politur officers.
One morning, two policemen were front my hôtel and stop "friendly" my chica in the street, with smiles and jokes, but not speaking to me. I was a little worriend for her, and I called on her phone : "Have you problems with the police? Do you want to come back at the hôtel." She said me : "No, don't worry, they just want some money, because these thieves know that if I'm leaving the hôtel on the morning, I have money with me. But I'm used to this, and I let them politely."Jao, you may be on to something. Since the money I am paying these chicas are flowing into the Police's pockets, I am going to start demanding more services from these bastards next time, LOL! But I am starting to see why non/semi-pros would be reluctant to travel to Sosua.
Nikkon, it was a good thing you didn't stick around trying to be "Captain Save-a-H0e". The Police run that town and even if they don't get her money, her chulo/boyfriend will. What every she loses in operating expenses she will make up for it at Western Union the following week, lol.
SavePros321
05-31-11, 18:24
Trying to organize a mid day trip to Blackbeards on Thursday. Including my buddies, it will be 3 of us. If we can get another 3 to split the transportation costs, that would be cool. Thinking of meeting up around 1 pm at Baileys.
Can someone recommend a good driver with a van and let me know the rates?
Also, I think I read somewhere that Blackbeards doesn't allow for short term rental. How is take-out handled? Do the chicas give out there number?
Lastly, is the bikini contest still held?
Thanks! Whatever hotel you are staying at in Sosua just ask them to recommend a driver. They usually have a list. Also, just step outside of your hotel and there are usually a handful of taxi drivers hanging around (especially on Sundays, LOL).
When I stayed at BB's it was 1500 both ways to and from Sosua. Probably could have gotten a better rate but we didn't know any better since this was my first time to the DR and wasn't even planning on going to Sosua to begin with (ended up going the last two of my nights).
I think someone mentioned that BB's is starting to have ST rentals but I am not sure. Ask in the PP forum. If you want to take a girl back to Sosua you have to pay a salida (exit fee) of 800 pesos (I think that is the current rate. Ask in the PP forum).
Try to call ahead and ask what time shift change is. That way you can get there about an hour ahead of it and get the oncoming shift to check out as well.
The Bikini Contest is one of the biggest weekend draws at BB's. Contact them to find out which weekend's they are being held.
Bar Central right next to Classicos, Calypso Hotel near the double banks towards Passions.Much better. 490, 590, or 690 pesos.
Last night, a very hot chica promptly cut her price to 1000 pesos in Merengue Bar.
Charles Pooter
05-31-11, 20:32
Trying to organize a mid day trip to Blackbeards on Thursday. Including my buddies, it will be 3 of us. If we can get another 3 to split the transportation costs, that would be cool. Thinking of meeting up around 1 pm at Baileys.
Can someone recommend a good driver with a van and let me know the rates?
Also, I think I read somewhere that Blackbeards doesn't allow for short term rental. How is take-out handled? Do the chicas give out there number?
Lastly, is the bikini contest still held?
Thanks! You guys never cease to amaze me.
Guys staying in Sosúa who want take chicas out of Blackbeards.
Guys staying at Blackbeards who want to bring in chicas from Sosúa, or Cristal, or El Bohen.
Talk about pissing into the wind. Why do you want to make life complicated? You are just adding to your costs and don't tell me the cost is irrelevant if you already have 3 to share the taxi costs but fell you still need 3 more.
If you leave at 1. 00pm you will arrive at around 2. 00pm and Blackbeards will be a bit quietish by then. Not much choice for 3 or more guys if you are planning to take out. (Gets more lively around 5. 00pm).
Where are you all planning to take these chicas to do the deed? Short-term rental of room at BB would be cheapest / most convenient. Or to a near-by cabana? In either case you will be adding significant extra cost.
Or back to Sosúa? If the latter they will expect you to pay their taxi-fare back. (Yes, I know they could get back by publico but, depending how many chicas, it might not be that much cheaper and, being stuck-up little princesas from Blackbeards I can guarantee they will insist on a taxi).
SP321 quoted 1500 for a return trip. As that was from Costambar (where taxis are notoriously expensive) I think that was a good price if the driver was expected to hang around for hours.
I cannot see you negotiating much less than 2000 if you want the driver to wait for you in Costambar for several hours while you choose your chicas and do the deed wherever. If you cannot get the price you want, try walking to the Parada de Puerto Plata opposite Texaco and negotiate for a dedicated carrito. They are always 40% cheaper on the journey price because they are beat-up old wrecks but if you are, in effect, paying the driver for several hours waiting time there might not be that much difference. Also publicos are only comfortable for four passengers so you would need another taxi to take away your chicas.
I would love to hear how this operation pans out with all costs. I reckon you will end up paying double or treble each for the same quality chicas you could find in Sosúa but you could have a real fun outing that would make it all worthwhile.
Trying to organize a mid day trip to Blackbeards on Thursday. Including my buddies, it will be 3 of us. If we can get another 3 to split the transportation costs, that would be cool. Thinking of meeting up around 1 pm at Baileys.
Can someone recommend a good driver with a van and let me know the rates?
Also, I think I read somewhere that Blackbeards doesn't allow for short term rental. How is take-out handled? Do the chicas give out there number?
Lastly, is the bikini contest still held?
Thanks!In my estimation you are going about it in a difficult way. I tried to do the same, realized the hassle and then decided to check out a day early from Sosua and spent the last night and day at BB's. I could do this because I was on a day to day reservation at Plaza Europa Hotel.
I called BB's to see about availibilty and there was room. I checked in BB's in the afternoon, drank some Presidentes, found a nice chica, later had a great wood fired Pizza at "Sol o Mia" up the road with a bunch of the BB's guests and hung out for the rest of the evening.
The next morning had a nice breakfast, found a nice daytime Chica, hung out by the pool and got ready for the airport. The back and forth from Sosua to Costambar isn't worth it when you could be relaxing and sipping suds without all that hassle.
I also don't see the value of just being a visitor at BB's for a few hours and the riding back to Sosua. Stay the night, chill and the world is your oyster. Blackbeards will also make arrangements to get you to the airport on time.
I know your not a newbie as I see you have some posts up here. Just my two cents.
Hope all goes well and let us know.
Trying to organize a mid day trip to Blackbeards on Thursday. Including my buddies, it will be 3 of us. If we can get another 3 to split the transportation costs, that would be cool. Thinking of meeting up around 1 pm at Baileys.
Can someone recommend a good driver with a van and let me know the rates?
Also, I think I read somewhere that Blackbeards doesn't allow for short term rental. How is take-out handled? Do the chicas give out there number?
Lastly, is the bikini contest still held?
Thanks!
Have you been to BB's before? You didnt ask us but on the surface this idea has many problems unless you have been there before and want to return for a reason. Read Charles post carefully and re-think this idea. Send me a pm if you want me to go into it further.
Yes the contest is still held every other Sat.
You guys never cease to amaze me.
Guys staying in Sosúa who want take chicas out of Blackbeards.
Guys staying at Blackbeards who want to bring in chicas from Sosúa, or Cristal, or El Bohen.
I agree 100. For str8 up mongering, I'd stay in Sosua but I have driven to BBs if I already had a rental and wanted to go in that direction anyway. I usually wind up pulling babes before even getting to Blackbeards, when driving. Check the website for the bikini contest dates. I think they are always on the weekend. I stay far away from Cristal and Bohen. I'd rather do a car wash in Santiago, if I really want to get out of Sosua, which happens occasionally when you have too many chicas hawking you and saying "no otra chica!" when they see you.
Last night, a very hot chica promptly cut her price to 1000 pesos in Merengue Bar.That's a good price. I had the same thing happen at After One. If a chica is feeling you, she wants to fck you and the pesos are just icing on the cake. That chica network gets the word out fast when a money train comes into town.
That's a good price. I had the same thing happen at After One. If a chica is feeling you, she wants to fck you and the pesos are just icing on the cake. That chica network gets the word out fast when a money train comes into town.After One chicas know the night is almost over and some chicas reaize that going home with nada is not an option, good deals can be had there. The only problem I have is that if I've already fucked and I'm in drinking mode usually I just want to hang out and go home solo. A night of drinking usually doesn't lead to my best sex game so why bother.
Is there wireless internet at the New Garden Hotel? Are safes big enough to hold lab tops?
Where's a good spot to watch sports? I'm going this week and want to catch the NBA finals on Thursday and Sunday.
Is there wireless internet at the New Garden Hotel? Are safes big enough to hold lab tops?
Where's a good spot to watch sports? II'm going this week and want to catch the NBA finals on Thursday and Sunday.The internet a New Garden is pretty decent, my room is usually top floor in the back. However the safes I've had were not big enough for my HP. Maybe if you have a netbook.
Kitie Carson
06-01-11, 06:03
The Bikini Contest is one of the biggest weekend draws at BB's. Contact them to find out which weekend's they are being held.Bikini contest this weekend June 4 and every other Saturday. Thursday is not the best day to go hang out at BB.
Is there wireless internet at the New Garden Hotel? Are safes big enough to hold lab tops?
Where's a good spot to watch sports? I'm going this week and want to catch the NBA finals on Thursday and Sunday. From what I last heard New Garden does have Wifi. The safes are not big enough to hold your laptop. The Sharks Bar on Pedro Clisante has some nice jumbo screens. The problem is that sometimes the food is overpriced.
Is there wireless internet at the New Garden Hotel? Are safes big enough to hold lab tops?
Where's a good spot to watch sports? I'm going this week and want to catch the NBA finals on Thursday and Sunday. There is WiFi at the NG, just got back from there. I have a 17' laptop that did fit in the safe if you put it in at the right angle. This past trip, I kept the computer out the entire time; did not feel it was an issue.
Rumba bar has a huge screen and the women will be hanging out as well. Rocky's also has a huge screen, but without the women hanging out.
SavePros321
06-01-11, 16:33
Is there wireless internet at the New Garden Hotel? Are safes big enough to hold lab tops?Once you get there you will see there is no need to put your laptop in a safe. No chica is going to dare try to walk out of NG with it tucked under her arm. Plus, you have to escort her to the front desk in order for her to pick up her cedula (not so at Terra Linda).
I always leave my laptop out so that I can fire up some my music when I walk in the room. But I would make a separate login account if you plan to let chicas use it to check their email to keep them from browsing through your personal shit.
Always keep your safe locked though, especially while in the shower.
Professor 1
06-01-11, 20:42
I think someone mentioned that BB's is starting to have ST rentals but I am not sure. Ask in the PP forum. If you want to take a girl back to Sosua you have to pay a salida (exit fee) of 800 pesos (I think that is the current rate. Ask in the PP forum).BBs will give a ST room, if it has one available.
How busy has the NG pool been? I will be arriving next month.
Is there wireless internet at the New Garden Hotel? Are safes big enough to hold lab tops?
Where's a good spot to watch sports? I'm going this week and want to catch the NBA finals on Thursday and Sunday. NG has good wireless in that it works inside the room. Occasionally you have the electricity go out and the signal might be weak. I could put my netbook in the safe but it is pretty small.
Last 2 weeks there have been chicas hanging out at the pool. This is low hanging fruit if you don't want to go far.
Rumba bar has a huge screen and the women will be hanging out as well. Rocky's also has a huge screen, but without the women hanging out.I also was watching the game at Merengue Bar on the big screen and watching the chicas begin to congregate for Clasicos at the same time.
is sosua bay club a guest friendly hotel? i haven't seen any recent reviews about this hotel. how far is it from all the action?sosua bay hotel is behind the new casino, two and half blocks to classicos. after one disco is in the new casino.
sosua bay hotel has a monger section that is guest friendly. sosua bay hotel has an all inclusive section that is not guest friendly. rates i have read for the sosua bay hotel from $50us to $100us. off season now, so maybe the rates will be under $100us.
the owner of sosua bay also owns classicos and after one and he also owns a [CodeWord132] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord132) factory near sosua. name of the owner is armando, he is not a friendly guy.
headed to sosua, via panama city for the memorial day weekend. my first trip was in november 2010 before the crack-down, then the second in january. in january is was quite different, the street action was scarce, the girls were nervous, and the club action seemed to be limited to classico. this trip was different from the others. the girls were cautious, but not scared. but then again, there were very few haitians available on the street, beach, and in the clubs.
hotel:
stayed at the new garden for the third time. my reservation got screwed up and i did not get the room i requested; but jenny is too damn cute to slap around. there was always action in the pool, bar, and restaurant areas. some new faces for me, and some not so new. i saw maria, from the m&m happy hour team. she told me that marlene is now working at a bar in panama. i missed marlene; she is really a sweet girl.
wifi was up and running and the staff was great as in the past. as soon as walked in the ng, there was a dark big booty girl at the front desk talking to one of the staff members. she informed me that she was an excellent massage therapist, and was also available for complete services; go figure! so my thought was, let's check-in this hotel in style and get this holiday weekend off on the right foot. we showered, she massaged, and then rack operations commenced, yep, the weekend started out well. and my luggage was still packed!
bars & clubs:
cmp: i started out there because the girls were around the ng passing out flyers to their party that started at 7:00. i already made a call and had little dancer meeting me at the ng at 9:30, so no time to waste time. got to cmp, but the party seemed to have quickly ended. but there were still 12-14 girls hanging out; some hot, some ok, and some wtf. for about 30-40 minutes, i was the only customer in the place. so all the girls focused their attention on me; not a bad thing at all. at one point, every girl was on the floor doing the booty shake for little old me. it is amazing to watch these girls shake their asses in beat to every note of the music, up and down, side to side; i felt quite honored.
el flow & rumba: both of these places had a good share of women available in the afternoon and early evening; especially rumba. later in the evening, the girls headed to merengue.
merengue: the girls packed this place by 9 to 10. i was sitting at one of the tables, when i noticed all the girls got up and were moving in the same direction. hell, i thought they were being rounded up by the police. nah, it was because classico was opening up. oh, and the best table to sit at during this parade of chicas, is the one directly below the stairs; voyeur heaven my fellow kinky friends.
la passion & classico: never made it to either place. but i can tell you by watching the stairs, classico had plenty of women available. did not find the time to visit la passion, cmp kept me busy for a bit too long.
latino: still my favorite late night spot. ran smacked into the crazy frizzy hair bartender, which is not frizzy anymore, now her hair is straight. she still wanted full control of my happy ass, and this lasted for the three nights. how much do i have to pay for one bad judgment night from the pass november? the night club focuses on latino music, vice the american stuff at classico; which i appreciate. i did not travel from the west coast to listen to otherwise. i also really like the staff, other than the one already mentioned. i enjoy hanging out with juan, miguel, clarixa, and angel throughout the evening.
one night i went in the club without little dancer, and was hanging out at the bar talking to miguel and clarixa. it was around midnight and the place seemed dead and i was about to give up on the place. then this beauty came out of the bathroom, crossed the stage, and was headed out. she was wearing a white knitted short see-through dress, with a red thong and bra. i saw her and yelled,"ay, chihuahua!" angel heard me, pointed to her, and then chased her beautiful ass down. within a minute, she was next to me and sharing a tasty adult beverage. she later joined me at the ng. yep, angel earned a few free drinks that night.
the beach:
hung out with herman and his girls during the two full days that i had available. herman told me that business was way down and he was happy to see a returning customer. in fact, walking up and down the beach, most businesses had any customers at all. saturday, there were some chicas available, but on sunday, it was mothers day in the dr; very few chicas on the beach whatsoever.
patience is essential:
i was sitting at the ng bar waiting for the "ay chihuahua" girl the following night, she was suppose to be there at 7:00, but by 7:30 i had my doubts if she would show at all. meanwhile, in walks in this pretty dark girl, with her not so pretty friend. the pretty one keeps looking over and smiling, so what's a man to do, i call her over for a drink. we hit it off; go figure. we go to dinner and then back to the room for rack operations. turned out to be a great night anyway.
the new girl is getting dressed when i got a call from the front desk. they said the "ay chihuahua" girl showed up and was looking for me. but they did not use the "ay chihuahua" term, but the girl from the night before; this was about 10:00. the "ay chihuahua" girl and i were reunited and spent the rest of my last night together; drinking, dancing, and rack operations.
final thoughts:
sosua is far from dead! but it is different than before the crack-down. there are women available on the streets, bars, and the beach during the day, but unlike the amount as before. the place is still a bargain and the women are very fun to play with, especially if you adore the dark skin chicas as i do. don't kid yourself; sosua is alive and kicking ass!
John from NJ
06-02-11, 14:28
Don't kid yourself; Sosua is alive and kicking ass!Glad to hear that good times can still be had. My last trip was during the first week of the crackdown. I had a good time but it was nothing like the prior trips. I'm trying to put together a last minute trip for the middle of June. What did you pay the chicas? 1000-1500 ST and 2000- 2500 TLN still going rate?
Manizales911
06-02-11, 14:34
headed to sosua, via panama city for the memorial day weekend. my first trip was in november 2010 before the crack-down, then the second in january. in january is was quite different, the street action was scarce, the girls were nervous, and the club action seemed to be limited to classico. this trip was different from the others. the girls were cautious, but not scared. but then again, there were very few haitians available on the street, beach, and in the clubs.
hotel:
stayed at the new garden for the third time. my reservation got screwed up and i did not get the room i requested; but jenny is too damn cute to slap around. there was always action in the pool, bar, and restaurant areas. some new faces for me, and some not so new. i saw maria, from the m&m happy hour team. she told me that marlene is now working at a bar in panama. i missed marlene; she is really a sweet girl.
wifi was up and running and the staff was great as in the past. as soon as walked in the ng, there was a dark big booty girl at the front desk talking to one of the staff members. she informed me that she was an excellent massage therapist, and was also available for complete services; go figure! so my thought was, let's check-in this hotel in style and get this holiday weekend off on the right foot. we showered, she massaged, and then rack operations commenced, yep, the weekend started out well. and my luggage was still packed!
bars & clubs:
cmp: i started out there because the girls were around the ng passing out flyers to their party that started at 7:00. i already made a call and had little dancer meeting me at the ng at 9:30, so no time to waste time. got to cmp, but the party seemed to have quickly ended. but there were still 12-14 girls hanging out; some hot, some ok, and some wtf. for about 30-40 minutes, i was the only customer in the place. so all the girls focused their attention on me; not a bad thing at all. at one point, every girl was on the floor doing the booty shake for little old me. it is amazing to watch these girls shake their asses in beat to every note of the music, up and down, side to side; i felt quite honored.
el flow & rumba: both of these places had a good share of women available in the afternoon and early evening; especially rumba. later in the evening, the girls headed to merengue.
merengue: the girls packed this place by 9 to 10. i was sitting at one of the tables, when i noticed all the girls got up and were moving in the same direction. hell, i thought they were being rounded up by the police. nah, it was because classico was opening up. oh, and the best table to sit at during this parade of chicas, is the one directly below the stairs; voyeur heaven my fellow kinky friends.
la passion & classico: never made it to either place. but i can tell you by watching the stairs, classico had plenty of women available. did not find the time to visit la passion, cmp kept me busy for a bit too long.
latino: still my favorite late night spot. ran smacked into the crazy frizzy hair bartender, which is not frizzy anymore, now her hair is straight. she still wanted full control of my happy ass, and this lasted for the three nights. how much do i have to pay for one bad judgment night from the pass november? the night club focuses on latino music, vice the american stuff at classico; which i appreciate. i did not travel from the west coast to listen to otherwise. i also really like the staff, other than the one already mentioned. i enjoy hanging out with juan, miguel, clarixa, and angel throughout the evening.
one night i went in the club without little dancer, and was hanging out at the bar talking to miguel and clarixa. it was around midnight and the place seemed dead and i was about to give up on the place. then this beauty came out of the bathroom, crossed the stage, and was headed out. she was wearing a white knitted short see-through dress, with a red thong and bra. i saw her and yelled,"ay, chihuahua!" angel heard me, pointed to her, and then chased her beautiful ass down. within a minute, she was next to me and sharing a tasty adult beverage. she later joined me at the ng. yep, angel earned a few free drinks that night.
the beach:
hung out with herman and his girls during the two full days that i had available. herman told me that business was way down and he was happy to see a returning customer. in fact, walking up and down the beach, most businesses had any customers at all. saturday, there were some chicas available, but on sunday, it was mothers day in the dr; very few chicas on the beach whatsoever.
patience is essential:
i was sitting at the ng bar waiting for the "ay chihuahua" girl the following night, she was suppose to be there at 7:00, but by 7:30 i had my doubts if she would show at all. meanwhile, in walks in this pretty dark girl, with her not so pretty friend. the pretty one keeps looking over and smiling, so what's a man to do, i call her over for a drink. we hit it off; go figure. we go to dinner and then back to the room for rack operations. turned out to be a great night anyway.
the new girl is getting dressed when i got a call from the front desk. they said the "ay chihuahua" girl showed up and was looking for me. but they did not use the "ay chihuahua" term, but the girl from the night before; this was about 10:00. the "ay chihuahua" girl and i were reunited and spent the rest of my last night together; drinking, dancing, and rack operations.
final thoughts:
sosua is far from dead! but it is different than before the crack-down. there are women available on the streets, bars, and the beach during the day, but unlike the amount as before. the place is still a bargain and the women are very fun to play with, especially if you adore the dark skin chicas as i do. don't kid yourself; sosua is alive and kicking ass! thank you tomjackin for a "fair and balanced" report. it is nice to read a realistic and honest report instead of reading crap from certain posters that seem to have an axe to grind against sosua and are constantly claiming sosua is on it's death bed. every city i have ever been to for mongering has changed over the years but you don't hear them calling it the "new" medellin for example. i visited sosua ten times last year and had a blast and that is all that matters, having fun. i am glad you enjoyed your trip.
Thank you Tomjackin for a "fair and balanced" report. It is nice to read a realistic and honest report instead of reading crap from certain posters that seem to have an axe to grind against Sosua and are constantly claiming Sosua is on it's death bed. Every city I have ever been to for mongering has changed over the years but you don't hear them calling it the "new" Medellin for example. I visited Sosua ten times last year and had a blast and that is all that matters, having fun. I am glad you enjoyed your trip.Yes, thanks for posting Tomjacking. We are in all agreement that Sosua still has pussy, but not like before. There is also still night time hangout spots. And that Sosua has a more family feel during the day. But I'm not the type of guy that would tell people that Sosua is the same as it always has been, and mislead people. Because I take this honest stance, some people assume I'm wishing for the downfall of Sosua. It's not hard to see the direction that the powers in charge want the "New Sosua" to go. Police harassment, more families, less mongerers and with 50% vacancy at NG, the plan is working and proceeding. But some mongerers here want me to say everyting is perfect. I respect your opinion Mani, and we are cool even when we disagree. But considering the money that I used to spend in Sousua bi monthly, to have someone say "Fuck you and your money, we don't want it" doesn't sit well with me. And your correct everyplace is going to have an lull, maybe this is just that.
But I will say this, its about to come to a pivital point. The family plan or back to the mongerers Sosua, they both can't co exist. Another site is complaining about the NY boys coming down in big groups for the weekends. All it takes is one big incident and the hookers and mongerers will be blamed. Then we will see the final crackdown. But guys can always go to La Passions, that will then be full of mongerers, and come back here and write" Sure Classicos is closed but there is plenty of pussy in Passions and Sosua is far from dead".
Charles Pooter
06-02-11, 19:18
Thank you Tomjackin for a "fair and balanced" report. It is nice to read a realistic and honest report instead of reading crap from certain posters that seem to have an axe to grind against Sosua and are constantly claiming Sosua is on it's death bed. Every city I have ever been to for mongering has changed over the years but you don't hear them calling it the "new" Medellin for example. I visited Sosua ten times last year and had a blast and that is all that matters, having fun. I am glad you enjoyed your trip.Sosúa nowadays is worse in some ways and better in others. We are better off without many of the moaning minnies who now struggle to have a good time in Sosúa because they are too lazy or stupid to learn a little Spanish and the basic steps of common sense mongering. Also without the hard-core putas and other scum who used to pray on these easy marks.
I was always considered to have a down on Sosúa because I favored Puerto Plata. Now with the closing of Field of Dreams, El Chakerero, Vacilón, and other bars, it is hard to speak in favor of PP as a mongering center for short-term visitors, though still fine for those who have already built a list of contacts such as you and me. But Sosúa is hard to beat for those from the East of the US or from Europe who have convenient and affordable access, if you are looking for over-all value.
Glad to hear that good times can still be had. My last trip was during the first week of the crackdown. I had a good time but it was nothing like the prior trips. I'm trying to put together a last minute trip for the middle of June. What did you pay the chicas? 1000-1500 ST and 2000- 2500 TLN still going rate?Less Chicas, the more demand so to speak. Before the crackdown, the prices were cheaper because of the higher number of Chicas. They are asking for more, but will settle for less. A couple of the girls I called, I knew from the previous trips, and just gave them whatever I thought was fair, they never asked. Bottom line; be prepared to pay more than before.
Sosúa nowadays is worse in some ways and better in others.I probably will have a party in Santo Domingo at the end of June, you are invited, if you are feeling better to travel to Distrito Nacional. I am sure you know plenty of cute Haitian chicas, you can bring along, LOL.
Charles Pooter
06-02-11, 23:49
A couple of the girls I called, I knew from the previous trips, and just gave them whatever I thought was fair, they never asked. Bottom line; be prepared to pay more than before.You seem to be contradicting yourself here. As you have just demonstrated, there is no need to pay more.
Maybe the hard-core slags who hang round New Garden and try to dominate Clasicos (often veteran rejects from Passions, Blackbeards, Cristal, Field of Dreams, etc.) are asking more and getting it, but my friends who live in Sosúa are finding a steady trickle of fresh talent entering the noble profession and they stick to the tried and trusted price schedule of 1000-1500ST and 2000-2500TLN.
You will need some Spanish (not much) , some common sense, and an agreeable manner, though.
Less Chicas, the more demand so to speak. Before the crackdown, the prices were cheaper because of the higher number of Chicas. They are asking for more, but will settle for less. A couple of the girls I called, I knew from the previous trips, and just gave them whatever I thought was fair, they never asked. Bottom line; be prepared to pay more than before..
I don't think it is a supply and demand issue because I was hiding from chicas recently. I tend to think it is a factor of gringos driving up prices. When I read about guys on here bragging about tipping chicas 1, 000 pesos extra for doing what you are paying them to do I have to wonder. Its like reading in a travel manuel that tipping at restaurants is not the norm in a particular country and gringos come down and start tipping. Suddenly it becomes the norm. All you have to do is go to Costa Rica to see what can happen.
Experienced mongers know a lot of these chicas are actually looking for somewhere comfy to crash late at night. Guys that can develop chemistry and have some game may not have to pay the same price as another guy. Not saying its not all about money, but one of the reasons guys started coming to the DR from the start was because Dominican woman love to fvck. Somehow we've gotten away from that.
Sosua has some nice talent, but I think the variance is greater now and its more of a freak show. Not freaky as in sex, but freaky as there are a lot of chicas that should not be out there. Freaky also in that I see a lot more mongers now that are over 400 lbs or 6ft8. Nothing wrong with that but you can look at a lot of these dudes and surmise that they are probably paying big numbers. I ran into some Western Union novios recently and also a guy that was paying astronomical numbers. I don't let what the next guy pays affect what I pay when I monger.
On another note, I think the resistance to the monger scene has to do with the type of mongers increasingly coming down more than mongering, in and of itself. After all, prostitution is legal in the DR.
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I don't think it is a supply and demand issue because I was hiding from chicas recently. I tend to think it is a factor of gringos driving up prices. When I read about guys on here bragging about tipping chicas 1, 000 pesos extra for doing what you are paying them to do I have to wonder. Its like reading in a travel manuel that tipping at restaurants is not the norm in a particular country and gringos come down and start tipping. Suddenly it becomes the norm. All you have to do is go to Costa Rica to see what can happen.
Experienced mongers know a lot of these chicas are actually looking for somewhere comfy to crash late at night. Guys that can develop chemistry and have some game may not have to pay the same price as another guy. Not saying its not all about money, but one of the reasons guys started coming to the DR from the start was because Dominican woman love to fvck. Somehow we've gotten away from that.
Sosua has some nice talent, but I think the variance is greater now and its more of a freak show. Not freaky as in sex, but freaky as there are a lot of chicas that should not be out there. Freaky also in that I see a lot more mongers now that are over 400 lbs or 6ft8. Nothing wrong with that but you can look at a lot of these dudes and surmise that they are probably paying big numbers. I ran into some Western Union novios recently and also a guy that was paying astronomical numbers. I don't let what the next guy pays affect what I pay when I monger.
On another note, I think the resistance to the monger scene has to do with the type of mongers increasingly coming down more than mongering, in and of itself. After all, prostitution is legal in the DR. You make some point's I agree with and some I don't.
I think it's a new breed of mongerer, that developed with the Brazil "fuck fest". I love the story's from my Uncle's about the day's of mongering in Santo Domingo in the 80's and 90's. The North Coast hadn't developed to the wild Sosua yet. But they migrated to Puerto Plata first when it had dirt roads. These guys would spend months at a time, and intergrate into the community. Girls would invite them over to show off their new gringo boyfriend. They learned Spanish, and fucked with respect and laughed when they got caught cheating, it was all fun.
Then Brazil got hot with their amazon bodys and sexual talents. Word spread and it was a must see, meanwhile the older dudes in Puerto Plata keept their secrets. Puerto Plata is still a secret and my second favorite place behind Medellin.
Sometime's I think Sosua was created to hide Puerto Plata. The older guy's had already set up shop in Puerto plata and didn't want these new young guys, who were now looking for the next Brazil, to fuck their spot up. Sosua had a beach and new night cubs plus girl's looking for a gringo boyfriend. But here comes the ex Brazil guys with their "fuck fest" attitude's. Now it's all buisiness and sex. Closer than Brazil and less expensive. Also there are non stop flights from the North East. It got crazy, guys would pull a girl in a corner and bukakee her if they thought they could get away with it. The respect was lost, it no longer was about GFE and the DR cultural experience. If guys could of bought their pitbulls down to get pussy they wouldve done it, they didn't care. I remember just last year checking a guy on this forum who asked"Is it ok to ejaculate on a girl in the corner of the Latinos disco".
I have connections, love the culture and work everyday on adding to my Spanish vocab. Once the change takes place (whatever it is) I will resume my bi monthly trips. I guess it's what Mani say's, every mongerer spot goes thru an adjustment.
SavePros321
06-03-11, 08:29
On another note, I think the resistance to the monger scene has to do with the type of mongers increasingly coming down more than mongering, in and of itself. After all, prostitution is legal in the DR.Who are these types increasingly coming down? I think you inform the rest of us of them so that we know to keep a sharp eye out for them.
Thanks!
Hillbilly69
06-03-11, 16:40
Because I take this honest stance, some people assume I'm wishing for the downfall of Sosua. It's not hard to see the direction that the powers in charge want the "New Sosua" to go. Police harassment, more families, less mongerers and with 50% vacancy at NG, the plan is working and proceeding.
Another site is complaining about the NY boys coming down in big groups for the weekends. All it takes is one big incident and the hookers and mongerers will be blamed. Then we will see the final crackdown. New Garden is at 50 percent vacancy? Sosua is down! Shits down!
New Yorkers don't do anything worse than the Dominicans. Maybe they can teach some of the expats namely a Brit it particular how to wear a hat sideways and walk with their pants on the ground and say 'Whats up Homey' instead of 'Hail to the Queen! ' Just saying it would go long ways towards a more peacful community.
If anyone has experience with Sosua this is not the first crackdown that they have encountered. They occur, after a while they stop, and they do occur again. I've seen the pattern a million times. The volume of chicas has diminished considerably so the street action is ridiculously low yet the night action is always there. If the government wanted to end prostitution they could have done so a long time ago.
Prostitution ending would kill off much of the business in Sosua. Let us face it, most of the people who hang around at Classicos, El Flow, Rhumba, Merengue, and the like are mongers, not tourists! (at night count the number of tourists to mongers. I have yet to see tourists outnumber mongers. When this happens then I will worry!) The streets are easier on the eyes of tourists, during the days, but at night it is chica time.
New Garden is down 50% but that would have happened whether there was a crackdown or not. There was a period, a while back, where customers were emailing for reservations and the hotel was simply not answering (something along the lines of 31 emails in two weeks!). Noone at New Garden realized that they were not taking in reservations! Talk about poor business practices! New Garden has management problems. The regular customer does not see them but if one has experience it is noticeable. Second, no matter what anyone says, after Willifried left New Garden took a hit on it's business. Willifried was pulling them in. The low volume is not all necessarily due to the crackdown.
When I was last in Sosua I had no problem finding action on a daily basis. I was hanging out till 6:30 in the morning and was still finding action at the disco at the end of the block. Hey, if one wants action, with no problems, they can go to Passions everyday and pick up a chica. I find them overpriced and would not pick one up there but if money is no object than that is the place to go. Prostitution is alive and well in Sosua, will not die anytime soon, and it will be years before the government thinks of eliminating the chica action. Even if the government did it would simply move to another location and we mongers just need to find out this other location! Rumors of Sosua's death have been greatly exaggerated. It might not be the glory days but, heck, it is also not the end of the world.
Who are these types increasingly coming down? I think you inform the rest of us of them so that we know to keep a sharp eye out for them.
Thanks! Ok, I'll say it since I'm not a big believer in political correctness.
The monger type that has come down and has everyone upset are these Black guys or shall I say African-American.
I don't mean to stereotype all African-Americans as I am one, but seriously . In the last 3-4 years or so a new type has come down and essentially lessened the quality of the experience. Every one I know from the older DR hands white, latin, european, black all notice and complain.
Their typical characteristics:
-Black / African American (sometimes latin). Typically from New York, Atlanta, DC.
- typically young. 33 and under (although a few older)
-loud. Display obvious lack of home training or as they say in the DR "educacion"
-walk around wearing "wife-beaters". Forgetting that wife beaters are typically underwear not outwear.
-baggy shorts / pants with underwear showing.
-ALWAYS running around in packs with their "boyz" or their "crew" or entourage.
-sometimes acting as if they are re-enacting a 50 cent or P-Diddy video.
The proliferation of this newer monger type has definitely reduced the overall quality of the monger experience, has increased the general incivility of the place and thus attracting the attention of politicians and long time residents who always accepting prostitution as long as people. Tourist and practitioners showed a modicum of respect for the place, but are now upset.
I even remember the days long ago when New Garden was actually a decent hotel to stay at and not an open air brothel that this new type (primarily) has turned it into.
Everything changes I guess. And not always for the better.
Marc Anthony
06-04-11, 02:52
If anyone has experience with Sosua this is not the first crackdown that they have encountered. They occur, after a while they stop, and they do occur again. I've seen the pattern a million times. The volume of chicas has diminished considerably so the street action is ridiculously low yet the night action is always there. If the government wanted to end prostitution they could have done so a long time ago.
Prostitution ending would kill off much of the business in Sosua. Let us face it, most of the people who hang around at Classicos, El Flow, Rhumba, Merengue, and the like are mongers, not tourists! (at night count the number of tourists to mongers. I have yet to see tourists outnumber mongers. When this happens then I will worry!) The streets are easier on the eyes of tourists, during the days, but at night it is chica time.
New Garden is down 50% but that would have happened whether there was a crackdown or not. There was a period, a while back, where customers were emailing for reservations and the hotel was simply not answering (something along the lines of 31 emails in two weeks!). Noone at New Garden realized that they were not taking in reservations! Talk about poor business practices! New Garden has management problems. The regular customer does not see them but if one has experience it is noticeable. Second, no matter what anyone says, after Willifried left New Garden took a hit on it's business. Willifried was pulling them in. The low volume is not all necessarily due to the crackdown.
When I was last in Sosua I had no problem finding action on a daily basis. I was hanging out till 6:30 in the morning and was still finding action at the disco at the end of the block. Hey, if one wants action, with no problems, they can go to Passions everyday and pick up a chica. I find them overpriced and would not pick one up there but if money is no object than that is the place to go. Prostitution is alive and well in Sosua, will not die anytime soon, and it will be years before the government thinks of eliminating the chica action. Even if the government did it would simply move to another location and we mongers just need to find out this other location! Rumors of Sosua's death have been greatly exaggerated. It might not be the glory days but, heck, it is also not the end of the world. The same is true of Boca Chica. They are interesting in keeping it discreet not killing it. The issue is just with how it looks to regular tourists and investors. Not what is actually happening.
The "glory days" are just those periods when it's tilting out of control to the point where drunken frat boy parties and mobs of chicas are scaring tourists and investors.
It may seem like classicos is the center of the DR's economy but there are a hundred rooms on the north coast for regular tourists for every one for mongers. In tough times the regular guys start screaming louder about how bad those p4p people are making their properties look. Because they are not selling and they are real touchy. Number wise I'd say 50, 000 straight tourist rooms (AI, condo, timeshare etc) 500 monger. Literally 100:1.
Ok, I'll say it since I'm not a big believer in political correctness.
The monger type that has come down and has everyone upset are these Black guys or shall I say African-American.
I don't mean to stereotype all African-Americans as I am one, but seriously. In the last 3-4 years or so a new type has come down and essentially lessened the quality of the experience. Every one I know from the older DR hands white, latin, european, black all notice and complain.
Their typical characteristics:
-Black / African American (sometimes latin). Typically from New York, Atlanta, DC.
- typically young. 33 and under (although a few older)
-loud. Display obvious lack of home training or as they say in the DR "educacion"
-walk around wearing "wife-beaters". Forgetting that wife beaters are typically underwear not outwear.
-baggy shorts / pants with underwear showing.
-ALWAYS running around in packs with their "boyz" or their "crew" or entourage.
-sometimes acting as if they are re-enacting a 50 cent or P-Diddy video.
The proliferation of this newer monger type has definitely reduced the overall quality of the monger experience, has increased the general incivility of the place and thus attracting the attention of politicians and long time residents who always accepting prostitution as long as people. Tourist and practitioners showed a modicum of respect for the place, but are now upset.
I even remember the days long ago when New Garden was actually a decent hotel to stay at and not an open air brothel that this new type (primarily) has turned it into.
Everything changes I guess. And not always for the better. I recall the last time I stayed at New Garden. There was a group of guys from the inner city. They were like everyone else, having a good time, but the noise level was ridiculous. I am guessing that they paid New Garden to have a House Party because they blasted the music so loud that I was talking to the owner of Terra Linda, in front of Terra Linda, complaining about the music at New Garden. The owner could hear it clearly and even customers at Terra Linda, who were friends of the music players at New Garden, heard the music loud and clear in their rooms at Terra Linda.
One of my buddies, who was also good friends with the fellows playing the house music, and was invited during this time to stay at New Garden, did not do so because, as he said, he "did not want any of that 'RAA. RAA' shit!"The next day the hotel next to New Garden made a complaint about the noise level. There must have been other complaints because after this everytime someone complained about the loud music New Garden responded to it quickly.
I was one time walking down the stairs and noticed one of the white residents, at New Garden, passing me and being extremely annoyed. I was wondering what it was all about. When I sat down to have breakfast some of the guys were talking about the chicas they busted out the night before! Conversations all around me were laced with sex and profanity. Now I live in a bad neighborhood, so this stuff does not phase me out but I do like some peace to my breakfast. I simply stopped eating breakfast in the mornings and avoided the group. Lorenzo had some of his Italian friends staying at New Garden. I bumped into one at Merengue Bar. He asked me what I thought about the party! We both agreed that it was too loud.
I figured that eventually this group would leave and things would calm down. This is exactly what happened.
I mentioned this loud breakfast behavior to one of the workers at new Garden, when he returned from vacation, (excuse me for not mentioning names but I do not want to get anyone into trouble) and he said that this was sometimes a problem and he had to remind the residents to lower the volume, and content, of their voices when they were eating.
I talked to one of my buddies, who moved down there about a 1 1/2 ago and he said that this was becoming more of an issue.
I can understand. I was young, loud, and do come from a rough neighborhood. I see this behavior all the time (as I am typing this, in my 4th floor apartment, there is a group in front of my building acting loud, gambling, cursing, usually drinking) , but I find such behavior just looking for trouble. The majority of mongers are not of this type but there is a significant number that comes down and make themselves known.
I like some of your observations / thoughts. POP / Costambar are areas I still like to go to and often get non-putas, as in they don't ask for money, and the girls have a different mentality than in Sosua. I can say this about a lot of areas outside of Sosua. Unfortunately, most guys on the boards only know POP for Blackbeards. However, I've also seen old headz like the guys you mention in the DR and they are very well connected and doing things on another level.
I like what you wrote cause it shows that you see more value than the average gringo that wants to go somewhere and have everything like it is back home with the added benefit of cheap sex. Places like DR and Colombia don't really open up for you until you get out of the tourist economy and get connected. That is also when you find the real talent as far as chicas. A spot like Sosua just lets you know the possibilities, but its up to you to step your game up to really maximize the situation and I don't mean throwing money at everyone cause that has its limits as well.
To a certain extent, Sosua is a victim of its own success. In general, things are getting more hardcore because of some of the points you mentioned. As someone else mentioned, there have been crackdowns from time to time. But somehow this has a different feel to it because the times have changed. Sosua used to be a sleeper, as in not as well known, sometimes its better not to advertise everything on the net and post a lot of pics if you want to keep it that way. I agree about the Brazil mentality coming to Sosua. Some of the people that were fixtures in Rio are actually now in Sosua.
You make some point's I agree with and some I don't.
I think it's a new breed of mongerer, that developed with the Brazil "fuck fest". I love the story's from my Uncle's about the day's of mongering in Santo Domingo in the 80's and 90's. The North Coast hadn't developed to the wild Sosua yet. But they migrated to Puerto Plata first when it had dirt roads. These guys would spend months at a time, and intergrate into the community. Girls would invite them over to show off their new gringo boyfriend. They learned Spanish, and fucked with respect and laughed when they got caught cheating, it was all fun.
Then Brazil got hot with their amazon bodys and sexual talents. Word spread and it was a must see, meanwhile the older dudes in Puerto Plata keept their secrets. Puerto Plata is still a secret and my second favorite place behind Medellin.
Sometime's I think Sosua was created to hide Puerto Plata. The older guy's had already set up shop in Puerto plata and didn't want these new young guys, who were now looking for the next Brazil, to fuck their spot up. Sosua had a beach and new night cubs plus girl's looking for a gringo boyfriend. But here comes the ex Brazil guys with their "fuck fest" attitude's. Now it's all buisiness and sex. Closer than Brazil and less expensive. Also there are non stop flights from the North East. It got crazy, guys would pull a girl in a corner and bukakee her if they thought they could get away with it. The respect was lost, it no longer was about GFE and the DR cultural experience. If guys could of bought their pitbulls down to get pussy they wouldve done it, they didn't care. I remember just last year checking a guy on this forum who asked"Is it ok to ejaculate on a girl in the corner of the Latinos disco".
I have connections, love the culture and work everyday on adding to my Spanish vocab. Once the change takes place (whatever it is) I will resume my bi monthly trips. I guess it's what Mani say's, every mongerer spot goes thru an adjustment.
SavePros321
06-04-11, 03:35
Ok, I'll say it since I'm not a big believer in political correctness.
The monger type that has come down and has everyone upset are these Black guys or shall I say African-American.
I don't mean to stereotype all African-Americans as I am one, but seriously. In the last 3-4 years or so a new type has come down and essentially lessened the quality of the experience. Every one I know from the older DR hands white, latin, european, black all notice and complain.
Their typical characteristics:
-Black / African American (sometimes latin). Typically from New York, Atlanta, DC.
- typically young. 33 and under (although a few older)
-loud. Display obvious lack of home training or as they say in the DR "educacion"
-walk around wearing "wife-beaters". Forgetting that wife beaters are typically underwear not outwear.
-baggy shorts / pants with underwear showing.
-ALWAYS running around in packs with their "boyz" or their "crew" or entourage.
-sometimes acting as if they are re-enacting a 50 cent or P-Diddy video.
The proliferation of this newer monger type has definitely reduced the overall quality of the monger experience, has increased the general incivility of the place and thus attracting the attention of politicians and long time residents who always accepting prostitution as long as people. Tourist and practitioners showed a modicum of respect for the place, but are now upset.
I even remember the days long ago when New Garden was actually a decent hotel to stay at and not an open air brothel that this new type (primarily) has turned it into.
Everything changes I guess. And not always for the better. I thought that was where this was going. But I would say the internet is more to blame than anything.
I am young and AA, but I do not fit the description above, not does anyone I travel with (also AA's). I don't even have friends of those types here at home. In the Old Sosua there was enough pros to go around 24/7 and those guys were mostly invisible to me (because I usually finished all my business early and ended early (before 2am). Now it seems that everything starts late and ends early (in the morning) and in order to get some you have to fish alongside everyone else (including the "make-it-rain crowd).
Sosua is easy. That is why folks with no Spanish or the desire to learn Spanish go there (aside from the quick hop from the East Coast). These guys would fall flat on their faces outside of Sosua. You also have to take into account that there are more college educated blacks then there was back in the 80's and 90's, so now there are more blacks with money to spend. Since felon's can't hold passports then it is safe to assume you are witnessing what 50 Cent calls "Wanksters" (fake gangsters). The real thugs and gangsters all all in Prison (T.I. and Lil Wayne would agree since they visit that institution often).
So I guess it is also safe to assume that those who want "quick and easy" (Sosua) will have to put up with the Wanksters that also want quick and easy. Everyone else (including me) will take the time to learn the language and venture elsewhere (on the island or in another country). Wanksters will not take the time to learn another language because to them, that is not "Gangster" (read "Cool"). I have never met BBBL (nor do I know his style of dress), but all you have to do his read his almost daily reports of his two months in SD that he has been posting in Mr. Gogo's forum to see what the new way forward will be. Jao and BQ Ribs have been doing this for years.
Also, don't falsely assume that all black men want and lust for White women. We are talking about black men seeking out black women (Dominicanas, Haitianas) who will give them less of a hassle than their counterparts (AA women) , so naturally black men will want to flock there in droves after discovering Sosua (the same way they did with Rio). I am sure if black men from the East Coast start showing up in South Africa in droves in the next few years, there will be complaints (from non-blacks) in that forum as well, LOL.
I like what you wrote cause it shows that you see more value than the average gringo that wants to go somewhere and have everything like it is back home with the added benefit of cheap sex. Places like DR and Colombia don't really open up for you until you get out of the tourist economy and get connected. That is also when you find the real talent as far as chicas....
To a certain extent, Sosua is a victim of its own success. In general, things are getting more hardcore because of some of the points you mentioned. As someone else mentioned, there have been crackdowns from time to time. But somehow this has a different feel to it because the times have changed. Sosua used to be a sleeper, as in not as well known, sometimes its better not to advertise everything on the net and post a lot of pics if you want to keep it that way. I agree about the Brazil mentality coming to Sosua. Some of the people that were fixtures in Rio are actually now in Sosua.
Couldn't have said it better myself!
SavePros321
06-04-11, 03:56
I recall the last time I stayed at New Garden. There was a group of guys from the inner city. They were like everyone else, having a good time, but the noise level was ridiculous. I am guessing that they paid New Garden to have a House Party because they blasted the music so loud that I was talking to the owner of Terra Linda, in front of Terra Linda, complaining about the music at New Garden. The owner could hear it clearly and even customers at Terra Linda, who were friends of the music players at New Garden, heard the music loud and clear in their rooms at Terra Linda.This is exactly why the new setup in Sosua doesn't appeal to me. When I am done running chicas for the day I at least want to be able to sleep at night, LOL. By 1 or 2am NG used to be quiet for the most part other than a few loud drunken mongers staggering in after meeting chicas at Classicos (on the way to their rooms). But now it seems the party doesn't get started until around this time. I can imagine that everything is operating in reverse: if mongers and chicas used to hang out around the pool at NG from 10am until late evening (because everyone was heading to the Pedro Clisante around this time), it's now late evening until early morning. So now if you want to sleep, I'm guessing you have to wait until the sun fully rises (and those assholes are fully asleep). Sleeping during the daytime sucks. But as I understand it, there is nothing to do during the day in the new Sosua, so maybe sleeping during the day will be the new norm (unless you want to go hang out with tourist).
The same is true of Boca Chica. They are interesting in keeping it discreet not killing it. The issue is just with how it looks to regular tourists and investors. Not what is actually happening.
The "glory days" are just those periods when it's tilting out of control to the point where drunken frat boy parties and mobs of chicas are scaring tourists and investors.
It may seem like classicos is the center of the DR's economy but there are a hundred rooms on the north coast for regular tourists for every one for mongers. In tough times the regular guys start screaming louder about how bad those p4p people are making their properties look. Because they are not selling and they are real touchy. Number wise I'd say 50, 000 straight tourist rooms (AI, condo, timeshare etc) 500 monger. Literally 100:1. Brought up some good points. Actually, I was just talking about Sosua. I cannot generalize about the entire North Coast or any other part of the island because I simply do not know. I do not think there is a better place in the DR, though, transportation, convenience, and money wise, for the monger than Sosua. (if there is I would like to know).
From the little I do know of the island, as a whole, it seems to cater more to tourists than mongers. Cabarete, La Romana, Samana. Are not the most monger friendly places, yet action can be found. Santo Domingo and Pureto Plata, I am guessing are largely tourist destinations, but action is more common than the first three locations mentioned.
If the DR has an economic center I would guess that it would be in Santo Domingo.
I remember a conversation I had with a hotel owner in Sosua. When he opened up shop in Sosua he wanted to make the hotel tourist friendly and had a no chica policy. He had to change his policy real quick since he was not getting the volume he desired. We had discussions and he agrees that 90% of his problems with the residents in his hotels involves chicas yet this is his lifeline. He actually charges a bit higher for his rooms for, as he says, to keep certain types of mongers out. He's had problems with rowdy mongers and found by increasing the prices they will not go to his hotel to stay (and yet he still gets the quality clientele he wants). He shows concern about keeping the noise level down yet cannot do much about the chicas, since the majority of his residents are mongers and not tourists.
As for the frat house mentality. The crackdown is usually justified as showing a concern about increasing tourism. Keeping it discreet and not killing it is a good way of putting it. You are right about how it looks. You brought up a good point about investors (not just tourists and mongers, although there is an obvious relationship!)
The last time I was in Sosua I rather liked it. Less beggars, motochoncho, and shoeshine boys harassing me. I had more peace in the day and action at night. Not a bad mix. Thanks for your input Marc Anthony.
Manizales911
06-04-11, 15:33
This is exactly why the new setup in Sosua doesn't appeal to me. When I am done running chicas for the day I at least want to be able to sleep at night, LOL. By 1 or 2am NG used to be quiet for the most part other than a few loud drunken mongers staggering in after meeting chicas at Classicos (on the way to their rooms). But now it seems the party doesn't get started until around this time. I can imagine that everything is operating in reverse: if mongers and chicas used to hang out around the pool at NG from 10am until late evening (because everyone was heading to the Pedro Clisante around this time), it's now late evening until early morning. So now if you want to sleep, I'm guessing you have to wait until the sun fully rises (and those assholes are fully asleep). Sleeping during the daytime sucks. But as I understand it, there is nothing to do during the day in the new Sosua, so maybe sleeping during the day will be the new norm (unless you want to go hang out with tourist).The incident at NG that Boriman is talking about was an isolated situation as I have stayed at NG about 50 nights in the past year and once the bar closed at 11 it was quiet as a mouse there every single night, that is why I stay there because even though I like to stay out partying until 3 a. M. Some nights I also like to quit a little early say at 12 on some nights if I am hooked up with a chica and still get a good night's sleep.
Charles Pooter
06-04-11, 20:12
A member recently PM'd me to ask what length of time, and how many pops, he could expect in Sosúa.
I said he really needed to take a consensus as everyone will have their own opinions. This is what I replied, just to start the ball rollling:
ST in Sosúa usually means until you pop, or an hour if you don't. Not many chicas will allow you a second pop without wanting more money. (Not an issue for me, I am 71!).
LT you need to make it very clear that if they don't fuck in the morning as well you will reduce the payment. They will usually try to slip away as soon as it is light (around 6. 00am at present) and some even before that. I always stipulate to either 10. 00am or 11. 00am. If we are getting on OK they sometimes stick around for lunch and leave around 2. 00pm.
An exception may be Passions as they have their own guidelines, but you pay a lot more there.
The proportion of hard-core putas to non-hardcore putas is higher in Sosúa than anywhere else on the island (cannot speak for the capital, though) so you need to be even less trusting there. Most residents and regular visitors learn to find their chicas away from the town center eventually.
You might find a chica who you hit it off with and who will not watch the clock or limit your number of pops, but you are unlikely to do so with a first-time pick-up, and you will end up paying more with someone you have some sort of quasi-GFE relationship with if you include meals, gifts, etc.
What do you guys think? Our friend has experience in Rio and LOS, by the way.
SavePros321
06-04-11, 22:08
The incident at NG that Boriman is talking about was an isolated situation as I have stayed at NG about 50 nights in the past year and once the bar closed at 11 it was quiet as a mouse there every single night, that is why I stay there because even though I like to stay out partying until 3 a. M. Some nights I also like to quit a little early say at 12 on some nights if I am hooked up with a chica and still get a good night's sleep.That's good to hear because it was sounding like NG had no control over the situation whatsoever. Even when the "weekend thugs" (I'm going to start referring to them as "Holiday Wanksters") come down Fri-Sun and take over the sound system by the pool at TL, they make them shut that shit down once the front office closes (around 10pm-ish).
SavePros321
06-04-11, 22:20
A member recently PM'd me to ask what length of time, and how many pops, he could expect in Sosúa.
I said he really needed to take a consensus as everyone will have their own opinions. This is what I replied, just to start the ball rollling:
ST in Sosúa usually means until you pop, or an hour if you don't. Not many chicas will allow you a second pop without wanting more money. (Not an issue for me, I am 71!).
LT you need to make it very clear that if they don't fuck in the morning as well you will reduce the payment. They will usually try to slip away as soon as it is light (around 6. 00am at present) and some even before that. I always stipulate to either 10. 00am or 11. 00am. If we are getting on OK they sometimes stick around for lunch and leave around 2. 00pm.
An exception may be Passions as they have their own guidelines, but you pay a lot more there.
The proportion of hard-core putas to non-hardcore putas is higher in Sosúa than anywhere else on the island (cannot speak for the capital, though) so you need to be even less trusting there. Most residents and regular visitors learn to find their chicas away from the town center eventually.
You might find a chica who you hit it off with and who will not watch the clock or limit your number of pops, but you are unlikely to do so with a first-time pick-up, and you will end up paying more with someone you have some sort of quasi-GFE relationship with if you include meals, gifts, etc.
What do you guys think? Our friend has experience in Rio and LOS, by the way. I think that was a very good summary of events. I would just add that sometimes the quasi-GFE relationship does work out to be cheaper if (like me) you like to have multiple chicas. After a few days I usually slow down and only call the girls that I've hit it off really well with and hang with them until leaving. So instead of 5-6 ST with chicas I go down to about maybe one to two ST and then LT with one.
But yes, it can become more expensive if she is with you all day and you have to buy meals and etc. for two instead of just yourself. Especially if she (and you) want to eat breakfast at Bailey's every morning (they're breakfast just happens to taste better). To vary up things you can take the free breakfast at your hotel and just pay for hers (the free breakfast at TL is probably the weakest thing on their menu; NG has good free breakfast though). You could also just tell her to meet you during the evening so that you are not feeding two people all day (also lessens the chance of being talked into taking her shopping, LOL).
Even when the "weekend thugs" come down Fri-Sun and take over the sound system by the pool at TL, they make them shut that shit down once the front office closes (around 10pm-ish).A couple of weekends ago during the NBA games on the big screen at Rumba there was a crew that rented a large white SUV. They would drive into the lot on the side of Rumba near the bathroom very fast to attrack attention. They would drive fast in a circle and stop and go. Then they would jumb out and walk around Rumba like they were expecting people to jump up and ask them for autographs. There is a lot more of this mentality in Sosua now and this is what I think was alluded to in terms of investors and tourists cause that type of behavior, if on a wide scale and noticeable, makes some of the big money feel uncomfortable just like it would in the US. There has to at least be the appearance of some sanity and control for certain folks.
SavePros321
06-04-11, 22:34
A couple of weekends ago during the NBA games on the big screen at Rumba there was a crew that rented a large white SUV. They would drive into the lot on the side of Rumba near the bathroom very fast to attrack attention. They would drive fast in a circle and stop and go. Then they would jumb out and walk around Rumba like they were expecting people to jump up and ask them for autographs. There is a lot more of this mentality in Sosua now and this is what I think was alluded to in terms of investors and tourists cause that type of behavior, if on a wide scale and noticeable, makes some of the big money feel uncomfortable just like it would in the US. There has to at least be the appearance of some sanity and control for certain folks.You also have to keep in mind that there are young Dominicanos with money that roll (or used to) through Sosua at times. I've had people point out Dominican Baseball players from the farm teams over there. These guys would roll through the Pedro Clisante with their trunk open and music blaring (I wonder were they would get an idea like that from? Hmmm, LOL). I'm told that some of these guys are making $100K+ per year. I still don't understand the concept of wanting to show-out for hookers though (as if flashing money is going drive the negotiating price downward. I'm thinking it's the exact opposite. Ask A-Rod).
I remember my second time in Sosua I went into Classicos with a white, starched buttoned down long sleeve shirt, black pressed jeans, and all white shoes. On top of sweating like a pig, my wingman accidentally knocked over a Presidente on me and the chica sitting on my lap (we were sitting next to the big window right above Merengue Bar BEFORE they started making this area a VIP section, lol). I've since learned my lesson.
I've seen Italians rolling through with huge H2 Hummers and SUV's. But I'm thinking they were residents and not mongers though.
Coolie High
06-04-11, 22:50
My advise on ST vs LT is STOP worrying about what to expect in time and how many pops for ST and LT and more on her. Stop stirring at those thighs and hips and more on her eyes and body language.
Sir Charles your accurate in your assessment on ST and LT but to me the key ingredient is DO SHE LIKE YOU! If she likes you and the chemistry is strong you'll be pushing her ass away cus she won't want to leave LOL.
The way I carried is that during the day I figure everything would be ST and late night would be LT. I don't like negotiating time or how many pops because to me it's an indicator of if she's a hardcore puta or not. During ST or doing the day if as soon as you bust a nut she already has put back on majority of her clothes and is trying to leave asap pay that broad and be done with her.
Samething for LT. If she wakes up in your arms in the morning and is ready to go again for some sexual healing then gentlemen you've found a winner. And if she wakes up and start cooking you breakfast then she's now your girlfriend LOL
Not sure why Dominican ballers making $100k would be interested in the street rats of Sosua when they can easily pull a star in Santiago or El Campo? My Dominican friends from NYC don't even go to Sosua and instead windup with stunners in SDQ that they meet through friends.
The clowns I spoke of were defiantly from the states cause I heard them talking.
SavePros321
06-05-11, 00:28
Not sure why Dominican ballers making $100k would be interested in the street rats of Sosua when they can easily pull a star in Santiago or El Campo?Charlie Sheen can have any woman in Beverly Hills that he wants, but he opts for pornstars and escorts. Eddie Murphy went trolling for streetwalkers, but ended up with a tranny. D'Angelo (the R&B singer) got busted by an undercover female cop in "The Village" in NY while hunting for streetwalkers. The Terminator's mistress is certainly no stunner.
Sometime guys with money just like to go slumming, LOL.
Charlie Sheen can have any woman in Beverly Hills that he wants, but he opts for pornstars and escorts. Eddie Murphy went trolling for streetwalkers, but ended up with a tranny. D'Angelo (the R&B singer) got busted by an undercover female cop in "The Village" in NY while hunting for streetwalkers. The Terminator's mistress is certainly no stunner.
Sometime guys with money just like to go slumming, LOL. Yeah but you're talking about guys that are roided up, closet homos, drug heads, etc. Not that your overall point isn't valid but I haven't seen much of this in Sosua. We're talking about a country where Ms DR got busted cause she was video taped in a cabańa. The whole island is a working girl.
My advise on ST vs LT is STOP worrying about what to expect in time and how many pops for ST and LT and more on her. Stop stirring at those thighs and hips and more on her eyes and body language.
Sir Charles your accurate in your assessment on ST and LT but to me the key ingredient is DO SHE LIKE YOU! If she likes you and the chemistry is strong you'll be pushing her ass away cus she won't want to leave LOL.
The way I carried is that during the day I figure everything would be ST and late night would be LT. I don't like negotiating time or how many pops because to me it's an indicator of if she's a hardcore puta or not. During ST or doing the day if as soon as you bust a nut she already has put back on majority of her clothes and is trying to leave asap pay that broad and be done with her.
Samething for LT. If she wakes up in your arms in the morning and is ready to go again for some sexual healing then gentlemen you've found a winner. And if she wakes up and start cooking you breakfast then she's now your girlfriend LOL" Old school" terminology, and welcome back Coolie. You have been missed. In the "Old Sosua" a weekend girlfriend was the norm. Things have changed with a new mongerer who just wants a quick stick. So the girls have changed their strtategy. I remember seeing a white dude with two Haitianas and thinking they are fucking him good. No problem with guys fullfilling their fantasys in the old Sosua (BTW where is my boy fantasy?).
Thats whats missing in the "New Sosua" the GFE. You basically had to pay them to leave so you could move on. Guys who never experienced this in the "Old Sosua" now say, I'm missing the chica for an hour point. I see all this racial talk about brothers doing this and that, but their are brothers who went there and respected the culture and chicas and miss the "old Sosua". GFE is going out but guys still want to give the hardcore chicas credit. When is the last time someone posted about GFE, it was Oakie at the beginning of the year. But guys still preach about the "New Sosua" and critisize me for saying its not the same. The real players have already moved on outside of Sosua with their contacts, and respect the game. Others are still going to Classicos negotiating and hourly fuck. I don't give a fuck about the NY boys coming down for the weekend, or the ex Brazil guys that don't want to know Spanish, or the new family structure now dominating Sosua, Because I know Dominicanas that will drop what they are doing in normal life, to hang with me. Not to sound arrogant but I treat the girls with respect, so if they don't give me their time I have others that will gladly accept. Fellas its alot of lonely women on this island that love to fuck, just don't try to shit on them and they will respect you for that. As I told a trusted veteran here last week, what is a text message on her birthday, or a "hola" every now and then, or sending 50usd every six months (what you probaly give to a bum on the corner monthly) If it makes a chica want to be with you every minute of your trip, and fuck you good, because you are you, then that is a good future investment. And for the hourly fucking guys who want to bash me because you are keeping it real, just remember one thing. I'm permanent you are temporary, and thats keeping it real. You will fade out while I stay and play. By not learning the language and the culture, you will be the one in America jacking off to "back Page" chicas while the ones who werent keeping it real will be sitting with some cute chicas drinking a Presidente worrying about if you have enough condoms for your trip. Just "keeping it real fellas'.
AlwaysHorny 2
06-05-11, 17:24
Fellas,
Having way too much fun to give a detailed report now, but I just want to say that it is more pussy here than a man can handle. Is it different? Yes, but IMHO not the volume or quality. The attitudes of the chicas are more professional. It takes work to scope out a semi-pro and I don't think I've seen a non-pro. The scene is still fantastic day or night, but I can understand the observations of the veteran monger. A newbie will not be able to observe this subtle difference. Sosua is far from dead. It matters to me that chicas sell the dream. Personally, I don't like it to seem like a business transaction. Not to be cocky, but I have the luxury of being very selective and my Spanish has improved. It makes a big difference if you want a more affectionate, true passionate experience.
I'm staying at the NG and I probably won't stay here again because of the reputation it carries with the semi-pro chicas. I've been working hard for two days trying to pull away this bar chica and I will have to go to her house. NG is fine in all other aspects. I'll give my argument later. I'll jut say that the thinly vailed racist bs that is giving this place a bad reputation is far from substantiated. I'm African-American and yes we are the majority, but everyone has been on good behavior. Some of you people trip me the f out, but I'll stay positive and keep this focused on the women!
Man, my first 48 hours was probably the best stretch of my entire life. I'll explain later.
"Thats whats missing in the "New Sosua" the GFE. You basically had to pay them to leave so you could move on. Guys who never experienced this in the "Old Sosua" now say, I'm missing the chica for an hour point."
I agree here 100. It is becoming more like Coasta Rica or Medellin. The scene is more hardcore in Sosua now. That doesn't mean there still aren't unlimited possibilities for GFE, but the general scene has changed in Sosua and this new paradigm tends to be more business oriented and costly compared to the "old days" when you had to pay a chica to leave or you found a way to duck her till you wanted to see her again. Short time used to be an anamoly. It used to be as soon as you got off the plane the chica network let your GFEs know you were back in Sosua and they were looking for you. In fairness, I think many mongers prefer the new Sosua cause they are most interested in racking up numbers than developing quality relationships.
SavePros321
06-05-11, 23:07
Fellas,
Having way too much fun to give a detailed report now, but I just want to say that it is more pussy here than a man can handle. Is it different? Yes, but IMHO not the volume or quality. The attitudes of the chicas are more professional. It takes work to scope out a semi-pro and I don't think I've seen a non-pro. The scene is still fantastic day or night, but I can understand the observations of the veteran monger. A newbie will not be able to observe this subtle difference. Sosua is far from dead. It matters to me that chicas sell the dream. Personally, I don't like it to seem like a business transaction. Not to be cocky, but I have the luxury of being very selective and my Spanish has improved. It makes a big difference if you want a more affectionate, true passionate experience. Glad to see you made it down and thank you for not being another ISG "hit and run" case (asking for info and not coming back to the board to give back info and details).
How long are you down for? If you are going to be there Mon-Wed don't be too disappointed if things start to slow down significantly (these days were even slow in the old Sosua).
The scene is still fantastic day or night...Based on what you've already seen in your "First 48" (love that show, LOL) could you tell us:
-Around the time during the day chicas start to come around. Was this before 5pm? Or after 5?
-About what time does the party start to end and the number of chicas out start to dwindle significantly? (if you've been out past 4 or 5am)
-Is the partition still up at Merengue Bar? (Merengue used to be an open-air bar before the crack-down and they were forced to close it off from street view)
-Are there chicas still hanging out on the sidewalks? Or is everyone being forced inside (or else be arrested)? Are there chicas still hanging out in front of El Flow at night? (El Flow would be the only bar on the corner with music so loud it would make you deaf if you sat there too long)
-If you think about it, could you ask your chicas where they are from? Trying to get an idea of whether or not chicas from other parts of the island (SD, Santiago, etc.) are still coming to Sosua or if they've been scared away for fear of being arrested.
-Have you noticed any Haitians around? (if you happen to know the difference)
I'm staying at the NG and I probably won't stay here again because of the reputation it carries with the semi-pro chicas. I've been working hard for two days trying to pull away this bar chica and I will have to go to her house. NG is fine in all other aspects. I'll give my argument later.The reason for this is because the chicas that sit around the pool at NG gossip a lot. If they spot a supposed "semi" or "non-pro" visiting NG to meet a gringo and it is a chica they recognize, she automatically is branded a full-blown "pro" and word will spread quickly back in the neighborhood. All it takes is a text message, LOL.
Most non-pros won't come to visit you if you are staying in Sosua, let alone NG (because of the stigma attached to it).
Excellent posts, Mr Gogo.
Dom Rep has something for many types of Mongers. Sport fucking to wifeing up. Prices from 200 pesos and up, and sometimes relative freebies.
Sosua being ten minutes from an international and Sosua is a small town, so no car is necessary, makes Sosua a very convenient monger destination.
" Old school" terminology, and welcome back Coolie. You have been missed. In the "Old Sosua" a weekend girlfriend was the norm. Things have changed with a new mongerer who just wants a quick stick. So the girls have changed their strtategy. I remember seeing a white dude with two Haitianas and thinking they are fucking him good. No problem with guys fullfilling their fantasys in the old Sosua (BTW where is my boy fantasy?).
Thats whats missing in the "New Sosua" the GFE. You basically had to pay them to leave so you could move on. Guys who never experienced this in the "Old Sosua" now say, I'm missing the chica for an hour point. I see all this racial talk about brothers doing this and that, but their are brothers who went there and respected the culture and chicas and miss the "old Sosua". GFE is going out but guys still want to give the hardcore chicas credit. When is the last time someone posted about GFE, it was Oakie at the beginning of the year. But guys still preach about the "New Sosua" and critisize me for saying its not the same. The real players have already moved on outside of Sosua with their contacts, and respect the game. Others are still going to Classicos negotiating and hourly fuck. I don't give a fuck about the NY boys coming down for the weekend, or the ex Brazil guys that don't want to know Spanish, or the new family structure now dominating Sosua, Because I know Dominicanas that will drop what they are doing in normal life, to hang with me. Not to sound arrogant but I treat the girls with respect, so if they don't give me their time I have others that will gladly accept. Fellas its alot of lonely women on this island that love to fuck, just don't try to shit on them and they will respect you for that. As I told a trusted veteran here last week, what is a text message on her birthday, or a "hola" every now and then, or sending 50usd every six months (what you probaly give to a bum on the corner monthly) If it makes a chica want to be with you every minute of your trip, and fuck you good, because you are you, then that is a good future investment. And for the hourly fucking guys who want to bash me because you are keeping it real, just remember one thing. I'm permanent you are temporary, and thats keeping it real. You will fade out while I stay and play. By not learning the language and the culture, you will be the one in America jacking off to "back Page" chicas while the ones who werent keeping it real will be sitting with some cute chicas drinking a Presidente worrying about if you have enough condoms for your trip. Just "keeping it real fellas'.
Mr Enternational
06-06-11, 16:12
Most non-pros won't come to visit you if you are staying in Sosua, let alone NG (because of the stigma attached to it).That's why you tell them you are staying in Puerto Plata until they are on their way then you act like you thought Puerto Plata and Sosua were the same place. And when they ask what hotel you are staying at you just say you can never remember the name but you know how to get to it. Then you have them meet you at the beach or the grocery store. But I have never had a problem with a non-pro not coming to Sosua. Sure they will complain at first because of the stigma and they don't want people to think they are hookers, but mostly they find themselves lucky to get to spend time with me no matter where it might be.
Pipe Layer99
06-07-11, 06:32
Outside the box. My man. You never told me you've been to the DR.
Pipe.
That's why you tell them you are staying in Puerto Plata until they are on their way then you act like you thought Puerto Plata and Sosua were the same place.....
Outside the box. My man. You never told me you've been to the DR.
Pipe. My man from Rio. It has been a few years.
If you haven't yet made the journey to the Dominican Republic, you should definitely do it. Of all the guys, I have met in the Americas, your style and personality, should match-up well with the Dominican Republic.
Best,
Helpmann :)
Mr Enternational
06-07-11, 14:46
Outside the box. My man. You never told me you've been to the DR.Since you have been to Rio and Pattaya there really was no need to bring up DR to you. You would probably be bored out of your mind. It's like going from Disneyland to the neighborhood park. I guess sometimes that change of pace is good though. And for a quick getaway it works because DR is 4 times as close as Thailand for you. A friend of mine who is retired in Rio has been in the DR for the past 2 weeks and he actually loves it. I think he is going to pick up and move there. But I must add that he has not been to Thailand yet.
Dan The Man69
06-07-11, 18:13
Such a disappointment to be back to the grind of working everyday and dreaming of going back to Sosua. And of course planning my next trip back! My thanks go out to all you guys who helped this newbi have a great time in Sosua, especially Charles Pooter & Roberto who put me on the right track with all the hookups I needed and AlwaysHorny who I met on the plane from Miami for letting me tag along with his buds in the taxi from POP to Sosua. All the advice I got was right on! Although it was hard, really hard, not to session at Passions, I found my gems at the MPs for half the price, thanks to Sammy for taking me around on his moto. One thing I noticed right off the bat, was the chicas in Sosua are much better to deal with and their personalities are so much nicer than San Jose. And the beach was really a deal breaker over CR. Hung out most of the time at the Black Box at the beach during the day snorkeling and getting all the intel from everybody. You guys sure know the ropes!
Stayed at the Don Antonio's for the 1st 3 nights, then splurged the last night at Terra Linda. Both have their advantages, but you get what you pay for.
Also thanks to the guys from the Casa Manana for showing me around the condo and hooking me up with Mike the owner. Got all the intel needed for making Sosua a place to retire. But further trips are definitely in the plans!
And the advice I got was right-on about POP. Customs took my umbrella, that made it through 3 trips to CR!
Looking so fwd to planning my next trip back! Thanks again, guys!
Dan The Man69
06-07-11, 18:19
Hey thanks for letting me tag along from POP! Great meeting you on the plane. I just posted my short trip report and thought I had better say Hi and offer another thanks. Really enjoy reading your posts. Hope to meet up with you again in the future.
Fellas,
Having way too much fun to give a detailed report now, but I just want to say that it is more pussy here than a man can handle. Is it different? Yes, but IMHO not the volume or quality. The attitudes of the chicas are more professional. It takes work to scope out a semi-pro and I don't think I've seen a non-pro. The scene is still fantastic day or night, but I can understand the observations of the veteran monger. A newbie will not be able to observe this subtle difference. Sosua is far from dead. It matters to me that chicas sell the dream. Personally, I don't like it to seem like a business transaction. Not to be cocky, but I have the luxury of being very selective and my Spanish has improved. It makes a big difference if you want a more affectionate, true passionate experience.
I'm staying at the NG and I probably won't stay here again because of the reputation it carries with the semi-pro chicas. I've been working hard for two days trying to pull away this bar chica and I will have to go to her house. NG is fine in all other aspects. I'll give my argument later. I'll jut say that the thinly vailed racist bs that is giving this place a bad reputation is far from substantiated. I'm African-American and yes we are the majority, but everyone has been on good behavior. Some of you people trip me the f out, but I'll stay positive and keep this focused on the women!
Man, my first 48 hours was probably the best stretch of my entire life. I'll explain later.
I would like to take this time to welcome all the Ex Brazil guys to Sosua. There is still plenty of pussy in Sosua, even though not as much as before. Let the sport fucking commence.
MiamiHeatLuver
06-07-11, 21:03
That's why you tell them you are staying in Puerto Plata until they are on their way then you act like you thought Puerto Plata and Sosua were the same place. And when they ask what hotel you are staying at you just say you can never remember the name but you know how to get to it. Then you have them meet you at the beach or the grocery store. But I have never had a problem with a non-pro not coming to Sosua. Sure they will complain at first because of the stigma and they don't want people to think they are hookers, but mostly they find themselves lucky to get to spend time with me no matter where it might be.I use Cabarete as a bait and switch! LOL Even POP has a stigma attached it seems where as Cabarete has a more beachy touristy feel to it.
I use Cabarete as a bait and switch! LOL Even POP has a stigma attached it seems where as Cabarete has a more beachy touristy feel to it.Yep. That was my MO in the past
One thing I noticed right off the bat, was the chicas in Sosua are much better to deal with and their personalities are so much nicer than San Jose. And the beach was really a deal breaker over CR.I would have to agree. I like the talent in CR, but its much more hardcore in the gulch. Outside the gulch its better, but Sosua can provide a much better overall ROI. Some would argue the same for Medellin as well. I think they all have their pluses and minuses, and its good to switch up so you can enjoy the best of all worlds.
I would like to take this time to welcome all the Ex Brazil guys to Sosua. There is still plenty of pussy in Sosua, even though not as much as before. Let the sport fucking commence.I never thought it was possible to fck up the GFE market in Sosua. I'm still kinda amazed, but there is still some around in pockets.
This isn't a report, but just a few thoughts from my last trip a couple of weeks ago. I got pics, vids, etc. So hopefully I'll be posting some real sheet soon when I get time.
I went to La Roca on a Sunday cause they had a seafood buffet for about $23, including a Cuba Libre. Anyway, the baby lobster was really good. I'll see if I can upload a pic. While there I met a crew from northern New Jersey that took JetBlue in from NYC. The guys told me they come down quarterly and have Western Union novias that are their defaults while they are there. They were staying in Sosua Bay AI with the deal they have where you pay something like $1, 700 up front and you get 170 nights or something and you pay $30 a night when you come down (something like that).
Anyway, that night was a crazy night in Clasicos. I saw one of these Jersey guys and he told me he had just taken his WU novia on a shopping spree in POP and spent $450 on some gucci stuff and sure enough I looked at her and she had the bag, shoes, etc, etc. Anyway, I booked this chica that was her friend for 1, 000, pesos which was a price I got only because she was really on my tip and I told her I wasn't going to pay her anything but she could crash at my spot. When we started walking to my hotel cause I'm too cheap to even get a moto concho, she started giving me this story about how no one had taken her in the last three days. Blah, blah, blah so I told her I would give her 1, 000. She is a morenita with a fat juicy ass so I kinda wanted to smash at this point and she seemed pretty nice.
Getting back to Clasicos, the guy from Jersey had pointed out a really fine chica from Pasions that he said he had taken and smashed for 2 hours str8 earlier that week. This babe is fine and I plan to crush it when I get back if she is still around. Anyway, apparently some guy had paid the salida for her at Pasions and taken her to Clasicos that night. When I say fuuuuuuukkkkkkeeeed up I mean it. The dude was blasted up in Clasicos. He was wearing sandles and they came off so he was walking around Clasicos barefoot and started humping the floor on the dancefloor by the end of the night. Mind you, he had a smookin chica with him from Pasions and she is looking around like WTF. Anyway, when I left with my chica they were outside and a local dude that was kinda acting as his translator, chauffeur, etc. Was trying to get them in the car so he could take them wherever but the dude was so wasted it wasn't going to work.
So me and my chica get back to my room and she turned out to be a freakaleekaziod. BBBJCIM and the works. When I finally went to stroke it, she was dripping wet like a squirter so I asked her why she was so wet and she said "tengo ganas de singar" so it was on. One thing I like about many of the chicas in the DR is that they take a shower before and after. This chica was nice and clean and I was able to get some vids of her in the shower which was cool. I wanted to get her out early so I could get breakfast at my hotel, but she was so freaky we didn't wind up getting out of bed until 2:30 in the afternoon. The coochie was so good, I would up giving her 1, 500 pesos. Which I think may come in handy down the road.
Fast forward to the next day. I stopped into Pasions to talk to the babe from the night before and see what happened. She told me nothing cause they guy was too drunk. I saw the guy later that night and Clasicos again and he told me that it was his first trip and that he didn't know Sosua was going to be like this. He also told me he was from Brooklyn, NYC. He wasn't as drunk and he told me he spent $1, 200 USD in 4 days so far. I didn't say anything, but just made a mental note.
Anyway. The NBA game is about to start so I'm out of here. I'll write a real report, pics, etc. When I get some time.
I never thought it was possible to fck up the GFE market in Sosua. I'm still kinda amazed, but there is still some around in pockets.Maybe Gogo is old fasioned, but I like a chica to hang out for atleast the night so I can hit it like I want. Never understood jumping up and down on a chic for an hour, then kicking her out.
Good and funny report also.
SavePros321
06-08-11, 04:12
While there I met a crew from northern New Jersey that took JetBlue in from NYC. The guys told me they come down quarterly and have Western Union novias that are their defaults while they are there. They were staying in Sosua Bay AI with the deal they have where you pay something like $1, 700 up front and you get 170 nights or something and you pay $30 a night when you come down (something like that).
Anyway, that night was a crazy night in Clasicos. I saw one of these Jersey guys and he told me he had just taken his WU novia on a shopping spree in POP and spent $450 on some gucci stuff and sure enough I looked at her and she had the bag, shoes, etc, etc.
Fast forward to the next day. I stopped into Pasions to talk to the babe from the night before and see what happened. She told me nothing cause they guy was too drunk. I saw the guy later that night and Clasicos again and he told me that it was his first trip and that he didn't know Sosua was going to be like this. He also told me he was from Brooklyn, NYC. He wasn't as drunk and he told me he spent $1, 200 USD in 4 days so far. I didn't say anything, but just made a mental note. "I'm in dis bytch with Terror, got'a handful of stacks better grab an umbrella, I make it rain (I make it rain) , I make it rain on dem h0ez; I make it rain (I make it rain) , I make it rain on dem h0ez.": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_asu7n6QUc&feature=related
By this time next year you won't be able to tell the difference between Sosua, CR, and CTG as far as chica prices. Pick your poison.
Pipe Layer99
06-08-11, 09:22
Hey Man, Clear some old messages from your PM box. I tried to send you a message buyt you are ALL FULL.
FYI. My first trip is planned.
My man from Rio. It has been a few years.
If you haven't yet made the journey to the Dominican Republic, you should definitely do it. Of all the guys, I have met in the Americas, your style and personality, should match-up well with the Dominican Republic.
Best,
Helpmann.
Pipe Layer99
06-08-11, 09:29
Can you share which MPs you visited. Also, can you include some intel such as where the MPs are located, looks of the ladies, acts performed, prices for both the massages and the finish. Inquiring minds (mainly mine) want to know. I'm making my first trip very soon.
What did you like and dislike about Don Antonio's and TL?
I'm booked at Don's for the 1st night and NG for the rest.
Thanks, Pipe.
..... Although it was hard, really hard, not to session at Passions, I found my gems at the MPs for half the price ..... Stayed at the Don Antonio's for the 1st 3 nights, then splurged the last night at Terra Linda. Both have their advantages, but you get what you pay for.....
Hey Man, Clear some old messages from your PM box. I tried to send you a message buyt you are ALL FULL.
FYI. My first trip is planned. Sorry about that. The box is no longer full.
-Helpmann :)
Manizales911
06-08-11, 16:06
By this time next year you won't be able to tell the difference between Sosua, CR, and CTG as far as chica prices. Pick your poison.[/QUOTE]Never happen SavePros and the reason is simple, Colombian girls are head and shoulders more beautiful than Dominican girls. There is a reason most of the h00kers in CR are imported from Colombia and that is because the local chicas aren't good looking enough and hence command "cien" (or try to anyways). Same thing in Panama and other places.
I know I am painting with a broad brush by my statements and I love Dominican girls but if the travel cost and time between Colombia and the DR were the same I would never step foot in the DR again. Dominican girls like to party and are animals in the sack but the passion and beauty of a Colombiana can't compare to the Dominicanas and therefore the Dominicanas will always be more of a bargain in my opinion. Most guys I talk to go to the DR because of travel convenience and overall lower price.
Hillbilly69
06-08-11, 17:29
By this time next year you won't be able to tell the difference between Sosua, CR, and CTG as far as chica prices. Pick your poison.Never happen SavePros and the reason is simple, Colombian girls are head and shoulders more beautiful than Dominican girls. There is a reason most of the h00kers in CR are imported from Colombia and that is because the local chicas aren't good looking enough and hence command "cien" (or try to anyways). Same thing in Panama and other places.
I know I am painting with a broad brush by my statements and I love Dominican girls but if the travel cost and time between Colombia and the DR were the same I would never step foot in the DR again. Dominican girls like to party and are animals in the sack but the passion and beauty of a Colombiana can't compare to the Dominicanas and therefore the Dominicanas will always be more of a bargain in my opinion. Most guys I talk to go to the DR because of travel convenience and overall lower price. [/QUOTE]Don't say that too loud in Sosua 911. I about got into more than one fist fight in Sosua saying exactly same thing you just wrote. Someone would say,"Aren't these girls the most beautiful you have ever seen? ' My unsugarcoated response 'Fuck no you on dope? ' Then the standard reply 'Then why are you here? ' Boo hoo fucking hoo. I didn't know my travels were limited to dip shits and their opinions, when did that program start? LOL
By this time next year you won't be able to tell the difference between Sosua, CR, and CTG as far as chica prices. Pick your poison.Never happen SavePros and the reason is simple, Colombian girls are head and shoulders more beautiful than Dominican girls. There is a reason most of the h00kers in CR are imported from Colombia and that is because the local chicas aren't good looking enough and hence command "cien" (or try to anyways). Same thing in Panama and other places.
I know I am painting with a broad brush by my statements and I love Dominican girls but if the travel cost and time between Colombia and the DR were the same I would never step foot in the DR again. Dominican girls like to party and are animals in the sack but the passion and beauty of a Colombiana can't compare to the Dominicanas and therefore the Dominicanas will always be more of a bargain in my opinion. Most guys I talk to go to the DR because of travel convenience and overall lower price.[/QUOTE]I agree Mani that Colombian women are the most beautiful and lady like I have expirienced. I could never trust a Dominicana but they exude sexual energy.
But I agree with savepros statement because as the mongerers in Sosua get more hardcore and buisiness oriented, so will the chicas. I think with the lost of GFE in Sosua chicas will go for fast money and less personal interaction, like CR and CTG. Sure some guys will shop outside of Sosua and wife up, but those guys will learn a little Spanish and become WU novios. The guys that like CR and CTG have money and don't mind overpaying for the chance to eat a hot Latinas pussy. Just look at those boards and you will never see GFE. In the "Old Sosua" guys controlled the prices and time, the girls were very accomadating. Lets see I what happens during this"new Sosua" transition. This Summer will be a crucial test as people are on vacation. Will the" family structure" or the
"new mongerer in Sosua" prevail? Understand they contradict each other, one has to succumb.
Never happen SavePros and the reason is simple, Colombian girls are head and shoulders more beautiful than Dominican girls. There is a reason most of the h00kers in CR are imported from Colombia and that is because the local chicas aren't good looking enough and hence command "cien" (or try to anyways). Same thing in Panama and other places.
I know I am painting with a broad brush by my statements and I love Dominican girls but if the travel cost and time between Colombia and the DR were the same I would never step foot in the DR again. Dominican girls like to party and are animals in the sack but the passion and beauty of a Colombiana can't compare to the Dominicanas and therefore the Dominicanas will always be more of a bargain in my opinion. Most guys I talk to go to the DR because of travel convenience and overall lower price. Don't say that too loud in Sosua 911. I about got into more than one fist fight in Sosua saying exactly same thing you just wrote. Someone would say,"Aren't these girls the most beautiful you have ever seen? ' My unsugarcoated response 'Fuck no you on dope? ' Then the standard reply 'Then why are you here? ' Boo hoo fucking hoo. I didn't know my travels were limited to dip shits and their opinions, when did that program start? LOL[/QUOTE]To many guys Sosua is the newly discovered paradise. They don't know the "Old Sosua" and have never been to the DR before, so naturally they would think its the bomb. In the "Old Sosua" you never heard about guys humping the dance floor barefooted. These guys are going for it, no limits. I don't think the new"Family Structure" counted on this. Its funny as hell to me, Party your asses off new guys and live the life. In your face "family Structure" because I know your moles are reading this.
NightWhaler
06-08-11, 17:54
Just got back to the States from another week in good old Sosua. Had a great time and thanks to those I met who post here. Found a lot of new talent hanging around and had a blast playing with the chicas. The town seems to have settled in to the "New Sosua" but the action at night has been about the same all along. After a certain hour the politur seem to vanish at night. I also discovered for myself the value of the local massage parlors. 500 pesos got me a great massage and an even better BBBJ. All very prfessional of course. The rain did not affect the action either. I am also one of the Rio guys that don't care to travel Brazil anymore with the price of airfare, the exchange rate, and the fact that in Rio your best action is in a termas these days unless you like Balcony's. Not knocking it, but I can't make those kinds of rounds everyday. Sosua is the best place for the money in my opinion. Living on the west coast makes it a long trip to begin with so I appreciate the closeness and the chicas of the DR. Anyone looking to do an "all inclusive" for under $60. 00 per day and chica friendly please pm me. And don't let anyone tell you can't find some winners for $1000DR. Found a couple that were were more than worth it, both in looks and service. But it seems all of the chicas are starting at $2000DR which usually still winds up to be the standard $1500DR after a drink or two. Looking forward to my next trip and will probably wind up checking out SD too.
SavePros321
06-08-11, 19:48
Just got back to the States from another week in good old Sosua. Had a great time and thanks to those I met who post here. Found a lot of new talent hanging around and had a blast playing with the chicas. The town seems to have settled in to the "New Sosua" but the action at night has been about the same all along. After a certain hour the politur seem to vanish at night. I also discovered for myself the value of the local massage parlors. 500 pesos got me a great massage and an even better BBBJ. All very prfessional of course. The rain did not affect the action either. I am also one of the Rio guys that don't care to travel Brazil anymore with the price of airfare, the exchange rate, and the fact that in Rio your best action is in a termas these days unless you like Balcony's. Not knocking it, but I can't make those kinds of rounds everyday. Sosua is the best place for the money in my opinion. Living on the west coast makes it a long trip to begin with so I appreciate the closeness and the chicas of the DR. Anyone looking to do an "all inclusive" for under $60. 00 per day and chica friendly please pm me. And don't let anyone tell you can't find some winners for $1000DR. Found a couple that were were more than worth it, both in looks and service. But it seems all of the chicas are starting at $2000DR which usually still winds up to be the standard $1500DR after a drink or two. Looking forward to my next trip and will probably wind up checking out SD too.I was hoping to get AlwaysHorny2 to give us some insight as to what is going on but he's either having the time of his life or has disappeared (from the forum) without a trace, LOL. Could you please help us answer these questions based on what you observed during your trip? :
-Around the time during the day chicas start to come around. Before 5pm? Or after 5?
-About what time does the party start to end and the number of chicas out start to dwindle significantly? (if you've been out past 4 or 5am)
-Is the partition still up at Merengue Bar? (Merengue used to be an open-air bar before the crack-down and they were forced to close it off from street view)
-Are there chicas still hanging out on the sidewalks? Or is everyone being forced inside (or else be arrested)? Are there chicas still hanging out in front of El Flow at night?
-Have you noticed any Haitians around?
-Are most of the current chicas in Sosua local POP chicas? Or are there still chicas coming from other parts of the island (SD, Santiago, La Vega, etc.)? Just trying to see if they have all been scared away for fear of being arrested (If you happened to ask chicas where they were from).
A lot of folks on this board would really find this info very helpful, so thanks in advance if you can help us out.
SP
Mr Enternational
06-08-11, 20:35
Don't say that too loud in Sosua 911. I about got into more than one fist fight in Sosua saying exactly same thing you just wrote. Someone would say,"Aren't these girls the most beautiful you have ever seen? ' My unsugarcoated response 'Fuck no you on dope? ' Then the standard reply 'Then why are you here? ' Boo hoo fucking hoo. I didn't know my travels were limited to dip shits and their opinions, when did that program start? LOLWhat the fuck do you expect? If a mf has only been to McDonald's and Burger King, then to him the Big Mac is the best thing ever. Not until he has been to Ruth's Chris is he aware that better does exist and he has been eating shit the whole time. But as is the case, the majority of us eat fast food most of the time, then every so often fine dine.
AlwaysHorny 2
06-08-11, 21:28
I'll break my 6 day experience into three / four parts and then I will provide a conclusion. I will answer all the questions in my conclusion. With no further ado, let's take a ride.
Prior to my trip, I had some passport issues that caused a bit of concern, but I received my passport the Saturday before my Wednesday departure. My advice to anyone is to locate your passport far in advance to your departure date. Please don't assume you remember where you last left it unless you have recently traveled or keep it in a dedicated secure location. To any newbie without a passport, get that process out of the way ASAP. You don't want to have that sinking feeling that anything will complicate your travels.
I'll provide some detail, but this will be more of a summary of events. I don't remember much of it anyway. Most of the trip was a blur. I guess I can blame it on the 5 bottles me and buddies bought at duty free. LOL! Also, shout out to Dan the Man. It was a pleasure meeting you. I couldn't make it to the mid-day blackbox meetings because I was either up to too much mischief or I was somewhere trying to recover.
Travel, arrival, hotel drop-off went without a hitch. I brought two friends along this time. This is my third DR experience, but this was their first. I tried my best to prepare them, but I feel there are some things that a newbie is just not prepared to experience. We checked into NG and dropped off our luggage. The time was around 4 pm and the hotel was as quiet as a mouse. There were three chicas situated around the bar and a couple of guys sitting in the dining area, but really no activity whatsoever. I decided we should go to the supermarket to buy snacks, mixers, and any other minor necessities.
On our way back from the supermarket, as we walked around the curve, some souveneirs catch the eye of my one friend and then my other friend decides to shop as well. I try to tell them that they will have many opportunities to buy stuff, but they were lured in by the fast talk and begging. I didn't want to have anything to do with it, so I plopped down on a stoop a few yards away. To and from the walk to the grocery store, we passed about ten chicas. At least 4 of them were doable. I advised my buddies to take it cool because we were going to hit up PC after grabbing some dinner from Baileys.
Now, you will notice that I told THEM to chill. Well, I'm sitting on the stoop minding my own business. I look around and a gentle breeze brushed my face. I deeply inhale and a sense of calm overcomes me. I am so happy and excited that I am back. I begin to ascend into a nice chill mode when all of a sudden my cheek is stroked and I look up and in front of me are three nice Hatiana chicas. We bs back and forth. They want to hang out. I tell them that I am just waiting for my two friends who are doing some quick shopping. I told them that we just arrived and were coming from the grocery store. I was almost in the clear until this one with a nice round ass, flat stomach, wearing jeans showing her butt crack starts to get all up and close with me.
My dick instantly gets hard. I couldn't help but rub my hands on the top of her ass. It felt incredible. I really did want to take it easy, but once she was all up on me, I couldn't resist. This would be a recurring theme for me the entire weekend. A chica would get close up on me and it would be on! My buddies walk up and see the scene in action. Of course, they start giving me shit about all the advice I was trying to give them. So, I invite the girls back to our spot and they are game. We all load up in one of the rooms and the liquor starts flowing. Pretty soon the chicas strip to their underwear and then their bra's fly off and next we are all getting lap dances. Long story short, we convene to our own rooms and break these chicas off some proper like. I thoroughly enjoyed my experience, but it did leave something to be desired. I had more of a physical connection to her. It was absent of that emotional, passionate element that really makes it special.
After we finish with the chicas, we all decide to take a nap. Around 8 pm we are up, showered and ready to hit the strip. A few pre-party drinks are in order, so I head down to the bar to get a bucket of ice. Again, I'm fresh, dressed, and feeling like a million bucks. I just wanted to grab some ice, have a drink or two, and then go see the action. Well, the action is staring me straight in the eye as I approach the bar.
AlwaysHorny 2
06-08-11, 21:57
I'm reading these reports and the way the DR is being dragged in the mud, but I can't understand why the women are getting a bad rap. I've been to CR. I wasn't all that impressed. Yes, they may have had a few more top notch chicas than the DR, but if your game and looks are good enough, you can grab something just as good as those other places in the DR. You'd better believe that don't shit matters in CR than your money. Also, you can keep Columbia if I can't even walk down the street with a chica and risk getting into trouble. I don't just fuck these chicas, I make love! LOL.
Maybe if the monger took the time to dress half-way decent, take a few extra showers, and act like you have some small element of charm, you would be okay. Personally, I didn't have one chica under an 8. I had a three chica stretch of 9. 5 and above. I'm not tooting my own horn, but you attract bees with honey. Then on top of it, you want to shell out only $1k pesos for your sorry looking ass.
I think a large reason the chica attitude is changing stems from the attitudes of a lot of the mongers. The ho's have feelings too. How do you think it makes her feel to be used up and then see you parade with another chica in her face? I admit that I did it a few times and I know I seriously hurt some feelings, but they acted as if I expected them to leave. I did have two todo la noches though. I had some great passionate sex, but outside of my all nighters, it felt weird. Like we both didn't know what to do afterwards.
There are some money hungry wenches down there who will grab your money quick and flee, but it is up to you to use your smarts and properly assess what you are dealing with. This is my personal opinion and all our experiences are not to same. It just pisses me off when people make generalizations and don't know what the fuck they are talking about.
Damn, this threw me off my reporting. I'll get back to it later.
Also, you can keep Columbia if I can't even walk down the street with a chica and risk getting into trouble.Colombia is the bomb.
I've never up loaded any pics on this site so I'm going to test out a few joints from the my trip. I've decreased the size so they should upload pretty quickly. Looks like I can only do 10 at once?
Mr Enternational
06-08-11, 22:57
My dick instantly gets hard. I couldn't help but rub my hands on the top of her ass. It felt incredible. I really did want to take it easy, but once she was all up on me, I couldn't resist. This would be a recurring theme for me the entire weekend. A chica would get close up on me and it would be on!Hence the name AlwaysHorny. I would not expect anything less.
We all load up in one of the rooms and the liquor starts flowing. Pretty soon the chicas strip to their underwear and then their bra's fly off and next we are all getting lap dances. Long story short, we convene to our own rooms and break these chicas off some proper like.What is this retiring to your own rooms stuff? Me and my wingmen would have broke them off right then and there and had a good, old-fashioned, instant, down-south, home-style orgy.
Orgasmico those are some pretty nice chicas you got yourself wrapped up with my man.
Coolie High
06-08-11, 23:07
I'll break my 6 day experience into three / four parts and then I will provide a conclusion. I will answer all the questions in my conclusion. With no further ado, let's take a ride.
Prior to my trip, I had some passport issues that caused a bit of concern, but I received my passport the Saturday before my Wednesday departure. My advice to anyone is to locate your passport far in advance to your departure date. Please don't assume you remember where you last left it unless you have recently traveled or keep it in a dedicated secure location. To any newbie without a passport, get that process out of the way ASAP. You don't want to have that sinking feeling that anything will complicate your travels.
I'll provide some detail, but this will be more of a summary of events. I don't remember much of it anyway. Most of the trip was a blur. I guess I can blame it on the 5 bottles me and buddies bought at duty free. LOL! Also, shout out to Dan the Man. It was a pleasure meeting you. I couldn't make it to the mid-day blackbox meetings because I was either up to too much mischief or I was somewhere trying to recover.
Travel, arrival, hotel drop-off went without a hitch. I brought two friends along this time. This is my third DR experience, but this was their first. I tried my best to prepare them, but I feel there are some things that a newbie is just not prepared to experience. We checked into NG and dropped off our luggage. The time was around 4 pm and the hotel was as quiet as a mouse. There were three chicas situated around the bar and a couple of guys sitting in the dining area, but really no activity whatsoever. I decided we should go to the supermarket to buy snacks, mixers, and any other minor necessities.
On our way back from the supermarket, as we walked around the curve, some souveneirs catch the eye of my one friend and then my other friend decides to shop as well. I try to tell them that they will have many opportunities to buy stuff, but they were lured in by the fast talk and begging. I didn't want to have anything to do with it, so I plopped down on a stoop a few yards away. To and from the walk to the grocery store, we passed about ten chicas. At least 4 of them were doable. I advised my buddies to take it cool because we were going to hit up PC after grabbing some dinner from Baileys.
Now, you will notice that I told THEM to chill. Well, I'm sitting on the stoop minding my own business. I look around and a gentle breeze brushed my face. I deeply inhale and a sense of calm overcomes me. I am so happy and excited that I am back. I begin to ascend into a nice chill mode when all of a sudden my cheek is stroked and I look up and in front of me are three nice Hatiana chicas. We bs back and forth. They want to hang out. I tell them that I am just waiting for my two friends who are doing some quick shopping. I told them that we just arrived and were coming from the grocery store. I was almost in the clear until this one with a nice round ass, flat stomach, wearing jeans showing her butt crack starts to get all up and close with me.
My dick instantly gets hard. I couldn't help but rub my hands on the top of her ass. It felt incredible. I really did want to take it easy, but once she was all up on me, I couldn't resist. This would be a recurring theme for me the entire weekend. A chica would get close up on me and it would be on! My buddies walk up and see the scene in action. Of course, they start giving me shit about all the advice I was trying to give them. So, I invite the girls back to our spot and they are game. We all load up in one of the rooms and the liquor starts flowing. Pretty soon the chicas strip to their underwear and then their bra's fly off and next we are all getting lap dances. Long story short, we convene to our own rooms and break these chicas off some proper like. I thoroughly enjoyed my experience, but it did leave something to be desired. I had more of a physical connection to her. It was absent of that emotional, passionate element that really makes it special.
After we finish with the chicas, we all decide to take a nap. Around 8 pm we are up, showered and ready to hit the strip. A few pre-party drinks are in order, so I head down to the bar to get a bucket of ice. Again, I'm fresh, dressed, and feeling like a million bucks. I just wanted to grab some ice, have a drink or two, and then go see the action. Well, the action is staring me straight in the eye as I approach the bar. Hey did you and the fellas play musical chairs with the honeys. Every 30mins I be yelling "Switch", making sure the honeys make there rounds with the fellas LOL. Nice reporting. There's something magical about chilling minding your own business in a foreign land when all of a sudden honeys just come out of nowhere and give that "come take me now" sign. Their showing all that heavenly glory and letting you touch it like it's already urs.
Lord please continue to bless that little town we call Sosua! Lead Alwayshorney2 and friends into temptation but deliver them from the tigres, for the hardcore puntas are not forthem. Amen
SavePros321
06-08-11, 23:09
I've never up loaded any pics on this site so I'm going to test out a few joints from the my trip. I've decreased the size so they should upload pretty quickly. Looks like I can only do 10 at once?
DSC_0442 & DSC_0483: The chica in the skin-tight blue jeans is Marylin. Had her in '08 on my virgin trip (brought her all the way back to Blackbeard's after visiting Sosua for the first time / second night) , '09 (this time we did the doo at NG; both times she has hair, LOL) , and saw her ass again last October but did not partake.
Her big-booty friend sitting next to her has put on way too much weight since '08 when I saw her last year also, but from your pics of her in the yellow top it looks like she's lost weight since then. Never had the pleasure, but she still remembered me and my friend that took her, LOL.
Thanks for posting Orgasmico!
SavePros321
06-08-11, 23:37
Again, I'm fresh, dressed, and feeling like a million bucks...Did you throw on your white socks with your all-blue Chucks? (LOL)
Thanks for reporting bro. You've answered a couple of questions so far already:
-Around the time during the day chicas start to come around. Before 5pm? Or after 5?
The time was around 4 pm...To and from the walk to the grocery store, we passed about ten chicas. At least 4 of them were doable.
-Have you noticed any Haitians around?
I begin to ascend into a nice chill mode when all of a sudden my cheek is stroked and I look up and in front of me are three nice Hatiana chicas.Appreciate you taking the time to drop in on us. Looking forward to hearing more.
What is this retiring to your own rooms stuff? Me and my wingmen would have broke them off right then and there and had a good, old-fashioned, instant, down-south, home-style orgy.Mr. E, nobody wants to see yo naked ass bro; go to your room, LOL!
NightWhaler
06-08-11, 23:42
I was hoping to get AlwaysHorny2 to give us some insight as to what is going on but he's either having the time of his life or has disappeared (from the forum) without a trace, LOL. Could you please help us answer these questions based on what you observed during your trip? :
-Around the time during the day chicas start to come around. Before 5pm? Or after 5?
-About what time does the party start to end and the number of chicas out start to dwindle significantly? (if you've been out past 4 or 5am)
-Is the partition still up at Merengue Bar? (Merengue used to be an open-air bar before the crack-down and they were forced to close it off from street view)
-Are there chicas still hanging out on the sidewalks? Or is everyone being forced inside (or else be arrested)? Are there chicas still hanging out in front of El Flow at night?
-Have you noticed any Haitians around?
-Are most of the current chicas in Sosua local POP chicas? Or are there still chicas coming from other parts of the island (SD, Santiago, La Vega, etc.)? Just trying to see if they have all been scared away for fear of being arrested (If you happened to ask chicas where they were from).
A lot of folks on this board would really find this info very helpful, so thanks in advance if you can help us out.
SPI'll do my best to answer your questions in order.
1. Not too much going on in the daytime around the night spots like Rumba, Flow Bar. Ect. But the chicas do start hitting Rumba Bar around 5:00 pm You can always find some girls walking to and from a location and also at the massage palors.
2. Usually when Classicos closes down around 3:00 or so it starts to thin out. Whats left over goes to After Disco at the casino until around 5:00 and that's pretty much it except for a few stragglers.
3. Merengue still the same.
4. They are mostly on the inside these days and might ask you for walk to the next spot.
5. Still lots of Haitianas.
6. And yes still plenty of chicas from all over the island are coming in for the weekends.
FYI as I stated in my original post about what the girls ask for payment. I like to get off as reasonable as I can. But I pay the chicas close to what they ask for and almost always give a tip. I bring Victoria Secret gifts and Mrs. See's lolipops for their pleasure. I have a lot of respect for each and everyone of these girls who apply their trade. There are good ones and bad ones where ever you go. The good ones I repeat and the bad ones I leave alaone. I treat them like I want to be treated and I am rarely dissapointed. My advice treat them with respect and you will be well rewarded.
Pipe Layer99
06-09-11, 07:09
Thanks for the updated report.
Where are the massage parlors located?
How much is a massage?
Is the girl nude durig the session?
How much for the blow job?
Did you get full service in the MP or is that an option?
Thanks, Pipe.
...........You can always find some girls walking to and from a location and also at the massage palors.......
Thanks for the updated report.
Where are the massage parlors located?
How much is a massage?
Is the girl nude durig the session?
How much for the blow job?
Did you get full service in the MP or is that an option?
Thanks, Pipe. My last day before I left Sosua, my plane was leaving at about 3 pm so I knew I had some time for something quick in the morning / early afternoon. On the same block as NG if you walk toward the ocean, there are 2 MPs on either side of the street. One is called Belkis and the other one I forgot the name but they both offered me a BBBJ for $500 pesos. I chose a women named Albania that worked in Belkis since she seemed to be the only Dominicana working there at the time (the other girls looked Haitian). The massage was so so and the BBBJ got the job done. I've gone to this place several years ago and had better so it depends on the chica you get. The MP on the other side of the street seemed to have the same deal and the chica that pulled me inside to take a look seemed like she was willing to bargain and was desperate. The girl at Belkis told me she usually gets to work around 9 am and was available for outside service as well. She also told me we could fck, but the price for that was more.
Never happen SavePros and the reason is simple, Colombian girls are head and shoulders more beautiful than Dominican girls. There is a reason most of the h00kers in CR are imported from Colombia and that is because the local chicas aren't good looking enough and hence command "cien" (or try to anyways). Same thing in Panama and other places.
I know I am painting with a broad brush by my statements and I love Dominican girls but if the travel cost and time between Colombia and the DR were the same I would never step foot in the DR again. Dominican girls like to party and are animals in the sack but the passion and beauty of a Colombiana can't compare to the Dominicanas and therefore the Dominicanas will always be more of a bargain in my opinion. Most guys I talk to go to the DR because of travel convenience and overall lower price. I agree Mani that Colombian women are the most beautiful and lady like I have expirienced. I could never trust a Dominicana but they exude sexual energy.
But I agree with savepros statement because as the mongerers in Sosua get more hardcore and buisiness oriented, so will the chicas. I think with the lost of GFE in Sosua chicas will go for fast money and less personal interaction, like CR and CTG. Sure some guys will shop outside of Sosua and wife up, but those guys will learn a little Spanish and become WU novios. The guys that like CR and CTG have money and don't mind overpaying for the chance to eat a hot Latinas pussy. Just look at those boards and you will never see GFE. In the "Old Sosua" guys controlled the prices and time, the girls were very accomadating. Lets see I what happens during this"new Sosua" transition. This Summer will be a crucial test as people are on vacation. Will the" family structure" or the
"new mongerer in Sosua" prevail? Understand they contradict each other, one has to succumb. [/QUOTE]I agree that Colombianas are overall a better looking breed and there are many more women cause Colombia is a big country. That being said, no chica in the Del Rey in CR is worth cien, IMO. Those are inflated prices cause guys go there and are willing to pay that. I've never paid that and know places where you can get quality for $25 an hour in CR. That being said, a friend just got back from SJ and told me the girls are desperate right now because it is low season and even the hot ones were willing to take $50 in the Del Rey. This guy has no Spanish skills so I'm thinking other deals could be worked out. Everything is negotiable for those that want to negotiate.
As far as Sosua, even though the chicas may not be worth a certain price the hardcore mongers will undoubtedly drive up the prices so it won't matter and its for the reasons you alluded to. For those guys used to paying $200 in the states for the only trim they can get, $100 will seem like a bargain and they will think that they need to outbid everyone else or will just be ignorant of the local market in Sosua.
In defense of Dominicanas vs Colombianas, Colombianas are great in bed but tend to be more conservative outside of the bed and you need to approach them more often whereas Dominicanas are more aggressive and will come after you. Also, for guys that like women of color, the look in the DR might be better. The DR, in general, has a lot of stunners. It comes down to what kind of women you like. Also, in Colombia the women are better maintained because there is more money in the country, but you find more women on drugs and women with plastic surgery. That being said, you see a lot more stunners that look like they walked right out of a novela in Colombia. You can't go wrong in either country. Unfortunately, the air faire to MDE went up this year. Last year, I went there for under $400 so the price was competitive with POP, if not cheaper.
In general, someone needs to come up with a comparative grid / guide book of MDE, Sosua, RIO, CR, Thailand, etc. This way all the pluses and minuses (e. G, chicas looks / performance, price, food, flight, hotels, non-monger activities, etc.) can be compared. You can have a good time in all of these places and some mongers actually do care about the choice and quality of food or number of clubs, etc.
I agree, you have to be careful not to compare apples with oranges. Someone who finds white skinned chicas more sexually attractive than morenas may state that there are more attractive women in Colombia without even being consciously aware of his own preferences.
There are a number of elements to attractiveness:
1. The genotype. Does the chica have the hereditary looks that we find attractive? If I have a particular desire for women with brown skins who are taller than 5'7", am I more likely to find a wider choice in country A or country B?
2. The money. A great deal of what distinguished an ordinary looking women from a stunner just comes down to peripherals like hairstyling, make up, clothing, dentistry, even plastic surgery, etc. All of which cost money.
3. Environmental factors like diet and exercise. Why are there so many more attractive women in the DR or Colombia compared to the US? The DR woman may not go to the gym, but she probably does a lot more running up and down stairs and walking up hills than the woman who lives in Florida. Her diet probably includes more chicken, rice, beans, and beer, and less beef, barbecue, french fries, sodas, and candy bars.
4. Miscellaneous cultural factors. Dominicanas have great smiles, Dominicanas and Colombianas both speak Spanish which is fairly easy to learn compared to oriental languages, Dominicanas are great dancers.
There is also the question as to whether "better looking" actually is better. One can easily get seduced into trophy hunting and miss out in other areas.
I have had the pleasure of a number (maybe a dozen or more) who were absolute stunners with perfect bodies and looks, but I am not sure that I look back on those sexual experiences as superior to many others with women who were not perfect looking, but who were still very attractive for one reason or another. These days, although a pretty face never hurts, I look for good chemistry rather than good looks.
Pipe Layer99
06-09-11, 19:51
Thank you for the post. It is a wonderful thing to have options. Thinking that it 'may' be slow in the early afternoon, I like to know where to go to find a short time option. Its nice to get a little massage and a relaxing BJ to top it off. Afterwards, I can go have some food, a drink, and relax until the evening.
Plus, I also leave after 3pm on my last day. If I don't have a woman staying with me from the night before I will most likely want a lady to take care of me before my flight. Who am I kidding. Even if I have a lady stay the night and leave around 11am, I will still want another one.
I appreciate your reply. Thanks, pipe.
My last day before I left Sosua, my plane was leaving at about 3 pm so I knew I had some time for something quick in the morning / early afternoon. On the same block as NG if you walk toward the ocean, there are 2 MPs on either side of the street. One is called Belkis and the other one I forgot the name but they both offered me a BBBJ for $500 pesos. I chose a women named Albania that worked in Belkis since she seemed to be the only Dominicana working there at the time (the other girls looked Haitian). The massage was so so and the BBBJ got the job done. I've gone to this place several years ago and had better so it depends on the chica you get. The MP on the other side of the street seemed to have the same deal and the chica that pulled me inside to take a look seemed like she was willing to bargain and was desperate. The girl at Belkis told me she usually gets to work around 9 am and was available for outside service as well. She also told me we could fck, but the price for that was more.
SavePros321
06-09-11, 19:59
I agree, you have to be careful not to compare apples with oranges. Someone who finds white skinned chicas more sexually attractive than morenas may state that there are more attractive women in Colombia without even being consciously aware of his own preferences.
There are a number of elements to attractiveness:
1. The genotype. Does the chica have the hereditary looks that we find attractive? If I have a particular desire for women with brown skins who are taller than 5'7", am I more likely to find a wider choice in country A or country B?
2. The money. A great deal of what distinguished an ordinary looking women from a stunner just comes down to peripherals like hairstyling, make up, clothing, dentistry, even plastic surgery, etc. All of which cost money.
3. Environmental factors like diet and exercise. Why are there so many more attractive women in the DR or Colombia compared to the US? The DR woman may not go to the gym, but she probably does a lot more running up and down stairs and walking up hills than the woman who lives in Florida. Her diet probably includes more chicken, rice, beans, and beer, and less beef, barbecue, french fries, sodas, and candy bars.
4. Miscellaneous cultural factors. Dominicanas have great smiles, Dominicanas and Colombianas both speak Spanish which is fairly easy to learn compared to oriental languages, Dominicanas are great dancers.
There is also the question as to whether "better looking" actually is better. One can easily get seduced into trophy hunting and miss out in other areas.
I have had the pleasure of a number (maybe a dozen or more) who were absolute stunners with perfect bodies and looks, but I am not sure that I look back on those sexual experiences as superior to many others with women who were not perfect looking, but who were still very attractive for one reason or another. These days, although a pretty face never hurts, I look for good chemistry rather than good looks. Spot on Frannie!
As an AA I am more inclined to "soul sistas" and the Caribbean has been perfect for that. It's the one thing that is keeping me from making up my mind between COL and DR. Sure (I hear) that Colombian women are beautiful, but I know what I like: Hips and Ass. There is plenty of that in the DR, LOL! This is what I happen to notice on a woman before even taking into account what her face looks like (beauty, which is always in the eye of the beholder).
If I want "white-skinned" females, light-skinned AA females or Dominicanas usually fill this void perfectly. But I like all shades of black; from the darkest to the lightest. We have lots of chicas from all around Latin America on my campus, but the ones that usually always catch my eye are the ones from the Caribbean (PR, Cuba, DR, etc.) (those chicas from Cali (not California) are pretty hot too!). When I see chicas from countries outside of that realm, I think to myself "well, if I have to. If I were on business in that country then sure."
Sosua is a great place for American mongers because it's a fairly safe area and the infrastructure for American / Canadian mongering has already pretty much been established for several years. I think its especially great for those crews that come down that still want to hear hop hip and have no understanding of the language or appreciation for the culture because Sosua is a more culturally sterile presentation of the DR. At this stage of the monger game, Sosua is pretty much like a point and shoot camera, fishing in a bucket or whatever analogy you want to use.
That being said, Colombia mongering has accelerated in the last few years – principally in MDE. There are many reasons for this (the demise of Help in Brazil, the CR folks going to the source, certain mongering forums taking a more active role in promoting MDE, ect.). That being said, most of this traffic appears to be aimed at MDE so some get a misconstrued perception of Colombia.
Colombia is truly more of the big leagues for many reasons. DR's population is roughly 9. 4 million. In fact Haiti's population is bigger than the DR. Colombia has about 44. 7 million people. Now you can disaggregate the population by gender and sex, but the comparison would still be like comparing NYC to DC, for instance. I raise these numbers only to point out that the DR and Colombia aren't really comparable. Folks that do so tend to focus on MDE where the population is faired skinned. However, this is a very small piece of Colombia, similar to how Sosua is a small piece of the DR.
Someone brought up the fact that Dominicans dance great, which is something I don't see in Sosua. In fact, I tend to hear a lot of hip hop when I'm there. The DR gets huge props from me for merengue and bachata. However, Cali, Colombia is considered by many as the capitol of Salsa. Arguably, there is nowhere in the world where dancing is taken more seriously yet there is more fun and festivity around dancing.
Getting back to the chicas and beauty, Cali has a very large Afro-Colombian population (yes big booties from the Motherland) so you see many morenas and negritas. Cartegena has 2 beauty pageants in November: one is the official one that has the MDE light skin, fake booties type and the other is from the slums where you find beautiful morenitas that are similar to what is in the DR. Check out the women from places like Cartegena and Barranquilla.
Check out these vids. I don't know if I can post live links here, but here ya go:
http://youtu.be/lSxNkpI_A10
http://youtu.be/-KM2miKhRP4
SavePros321
06-10-11, 02:27
Getting back to the chicas and beauty, Cali has a very large Afro-Colombian population (yes big booties from the Motherland) so you see many morenas and negritas. Cartegena has 2 beauty pageants in November: one is the official one that has the MDE light skin, fake booties type and the other is from the slums where you find beautiful morenitas that are similar to what is in the DR. Check out the women from places like Cartegena and Barranquilla.
Check out these vids. I don't know if I can post live links here, but here ya go:
http://youtu.be/lSxNkpI_A10
http://youtu.be/-KM2miKhRP4You have solved much of the missing puzzle (for me)! The Cartagena pageant looks like something I'd definitely be interested in checking out in the future. I like the "shade" of the women there as well. All those babes were beautiful!
Going to have to pin Cali and CTG to the map for places to check out (hoping there are more options for meeting local chicas than just LDV. I understand chicas come to CTG from all over COL). Thanks for the info!
Colombia is truly more of the big leagues for many reasons. DR's population is roughly 9. 4 million. In fact Haiti's population is bigger than the DR. Colombia has about 44. 7 million people. Now you can disaggregate the population by gender and sex, but the comparison would still be like comparing NYC to DC, for instance.Colombia is big leagues for violent dudes.
You have solved much of the missing puzzle (for me)! The Cartagena pageant looks like something I'd definitely be interested in checking out in the future. I like the "shade" of the women there as well. All those babes were beautiful!
Going to have to pin Cali and CTG to the map for places to check out (hoping there are more options for meeting local chicas than just LDV. I understand chicas come to CTG from all over COL). Thanks for the info! Orgasmicos post was point on. But Colombia is a different kind of beast verses the DR. As he said it's a bigger country with different variety. But Colombia is very dangerous, no fronting allowed. My experience is "low key" is the best. At first I had reservation's about talking about my favorite spot, but I know most people can't adapt so it doesn't matter. Some Spanish is a must, no walking around only knowing"Hola" like in Sosua.
Medeliin:
Some of the most finest women in the world. Understand being raised in Washington D. C. Which when I was growing up was 88% black, my family didn't believe in interracial dating. My Mom always told me to never bring a white woman home with me. I went to diverse schools but interracial dating was out (can't let Mom down). It wasn't until I went to Medellin that my mind was opened up. Were talking about pale women that have class, pretty toe's and hand's (natural) and a lady like quality. If I was 25 yo I would marry a Colombiana. I was introduced to white women where race didn't matter. I was hooked. The ladylike demeanor, style, and class, not to mention they make pretty babies (ever seen an ugly Black / Colombiana baby?). Medellin has a metro that goes everywhere, malls that have roofs that open like Cowboys new Stadium (Sante fe mall) , and sex that is late night and hidden during the day.
As I was telling Savepros yesterday via pm, most guy's don't know how to maneuver in Medellin. You have to tuck your tail, which most guys can't do. Understand Colombian people are not nosy they have their own agenda. So as long as you don't bring attention to yourself, the city is yours. Please remember Medellin has some gangster ass MF trying to lay low. They don't see you till you make them see you, then you have problems. You are right AH2 I don't walk around Medellin holding hand's. They come to the apartment to hang out or maybe we might walk to the corner to get Domino's pizza (yes they have Domino s). I've been invited to homes for dinner, but it goes back to my "low key" point, plus I don't want a wife. Just the private 6 hours before she works makes me happy. Drugs are plentiful, so if you indulge be careful. Medlelin has a lot of trap's and most guy's follow their hard dick and hope for the best. But it is a hidden paradise if you understand that flying low will keep you safe, most gringos don't understand or respect this. Here are some past pics.
SavePros321
06-10-11, 11:14
Orgasmicos post was point on. But Colombia is a different kind of beast verses the DR. As he said it's a bigger country with different variety. But Colombia is very dangerous, no fronting allowed. My experience is "low key" is the best. At first I had reservation's about talking about my favorite spot, but I know most people can't adapt so it doesn't matter. Some Spanish is a must, no walking around only knowing"Hola" like in Sosua.That's why I was telling you I was having reservations about taking my non-spanish speaking friends along with me down there. I am damn-near fluent (damn-near, LOL) ; but I can't be in the bedroom holding my friend's hands should shit happen to go South with their chicas or if they decide to wander off and do their own thing. They'd be more of a henderance than anything.
Plus some of my friend's friends have no concept of the term "low-key" and go any and everywhere dressed like they are on the set of Weezy's latest music video. I don't want nor need that kind of attention focused on me in a place like Colombia, lol.
Thanks for the photos!
Orgasmicos post was point on. But Colombia is a different kind of beast verses the DR. As he said it's a bigger country with different variety. But Colombia is very dangerous, no fronting allowed. My experience is "low key" is the best.
Medeliin:
As I was telling Savepros yesterday via pm, most guy's don't know how to maneuver in Medellin. You have to tuck your tail, which most guys can't do. Understand Colombian people are not nosy they have their own agenda. So as long as you don't bring attention to yourself, the city is yours. Please remember Medellin has some gangster ass MF trying to lay low. They don't see you till you make them see you, then you have problems. You are right AH2 I don't walk around Medellin holding hand's. They come to the apartment to hang out or maybe we might walk to the corner to get Domino's pizza (yes they have Domino s). I've been invited to homes for dinner, but it goes back to my "low key" point, plus I don't want a wife. Just the private 6 hours before she works makes me happy. Drugs are plentiful, so if you indulge be careful. Medlelin has a lot of trap's and most guy's follow their hard dick and hope for the best. But it is a hidden paradise if you understand that flying low will keep you safe, most gringos don't understand or respect this. Here are some past pics. Mr Gogo I just noticed your thread, it is very good (BBBL is hilarious!) but I must say how important your advice of laying low is in Colombia. I have been to both MDE and CTG, my spanish skills kind of suck, speak more porto than spanish, but your descriptions of MDE are dead on. I was in a strip club (FASE DOS) with a few guys and one guy (a friend of a friend) got excited and wanted to make it rain. I grabbed his collar and yanked him back to the table before anyone noticed-scolded him: this is NOT the US MF, play it cool and law LOW! Told him if you want to make an impression, when she stops by our table, you can give her whatever you want. Discreetly.
At the end of the night, some of the Colombians guys stopped by and said Hello, before leaving. I offered them a drink but they simply shook our hands and left.
MiamiHeatLuver
06-10-11, 16:22
Medeliin:
Some of the most finest women in the world. Understand being raised in Washington D. C. Which when I was growing up was 88% black, my family didn't believe in interracial dating. My Mom always told me to never bring a white woman home with me. I went to diverse schools but interracial dating was out (can't let Mom down). It wasn't until I went to Medellin that my mind was opened up. Were talking about pale women that have class, pretty toe's and hand's (natural) and a lady like quality. If I was 25 yo I would marry a Colombiana. I was introduced to white women where race didn't matter. I was hooked. I don't see too much interracial dating in Colombia at all, besides P4P of the very few A. A I have run into in my travels there. If anything I see more racism than any country. Some of my college girlfriends and guys comment about this topic quite a bit and its frowned upon in their opinions and say that their parents would NOT approve. I think its more older generation installed conservative point of view. Then the newer generations have been indoctrinated with this point of view and find it hard to remove. I've been to in South America (Peru, Ecuador, Colombia, Chile)
A Colombiana is the most superficial creature on the planet! She sees, she wants and is envious.
I would never make a Colombiana a wife I don't think Way too high maintenance, want to live the life of a novela, to much drama and if she ever tastes the life of someone of a higher stratus she'll have a yearning for more and becomes less humble. If you can't give to her, there's always something better around the corner and you can't put this genie back in the bottle. Also if she's younger than you and plan to have her as a girlfriend in another country it will add a lot of stress to situation. She will want to go out a lot (the girls live for this) and have many "amigos" and theirs nothing you can do about it. Take it or leave it attitudes. As far as their feminism? They live for this as well. They are very high maintenance, constantly saving every single penny doing their hair (changing it many different shades) , New clothes, have to have the newest fashions, doing their nails, but still won't have one peso in their pocket and not 1 minute in their cellphone. Its almost the same from estrato 6 to 1. I have always wondered about this. These girls are used to being pampered and getting what they want, if you can't give it to them the will get it from somewhere and sometimes they are quickly ready to push the "NEXT" button. Don't let their beauty, charm, overwhelm you.
p.s. Ill reply to any comments if any in the NEW, CR, DR COL thread as to not clog up the SOSUA thread. The Sosua thread demands more respect.
I don't see too much interracial dating in Colombia at all, besides P4P of the very few A. A I have run into in my travels there. If anything I see more racism that any country. Some of my college girlfriends and guys comment about this topic quite a bit and its frowned upon in their opinions and say that their parents would NOT approve. I think its more older generation conservative point of view. I've been to in South America (Peru, Ecuador, Colombia, Chile)
I would never make a Colombiana a wife I don't think Way too high maintenance, want to live the life of a novela, to much drama and if she ever tastes the life of someone of a higher stratus she'll have a yearning for more and becomes less humble. If you can't give to her, there's always something better around the corner and you can't put this genie back in the bottle. Also if she's younger than you and plan to have her as a girlfriend in another country it will add a lot of stress to situation. She will want to go out a lot (the girls live for this) and have many "amigos" and theirs nothing you can do about it. Take it or leave it attitudes. As far as their feminism? They live for this as well. They are very high maintenance, constantly saving every single penny doing their hair (changing it many different shades) , New clothes, have to have the newest fashions, doing their nails, but still won't have one peso in their pocket and not 1 minute in their cellphone. Its almost the same from estrato 6 to 1. I have always wondered about this. These girls are used to being pampered and getting what they want, if you can't give it to them the will get it from somewhere and sometimes they are quickly ready to push the "NEXT" button. Don't let their beauty, charm, overwhelm you.I hear ya bro. But I'm not trying to date, hangout, or marry anyone now. I just like their beauty and the few hours I spend with them in private. But you give good advise for someone who want's to get serious with a Colombiana. Also sorry about the Miami Heat loss last night LOL.
Charles Pooter
06-10-11, 17:02
I was introduced to white women where race didn't matter.Around 25% of the Colombian population would be regarded as "black" in the States. How many top politicians, military officers, businessmen and property owners in Colombia are "black"? I would guess much less than 1 percent. If you think race doesn't matter in Colombia you must go round blindfold.
Around 25% of the Colombian population would be regarded as "black" in the States. How many top politicians, military officers, businessmen and property owners in Colombia are "black"? I would guess much less than 1 percent. If you think race doesn't matter in Colombia you must go round blindfold.Colombia has the largest black Spanish speaking community in the world. To some people race is everything, life is to important to me to look at race relations and make it a top priority. Sure I care, everytime I see a poor Haitian in Sosua I think if my ancestors were forced on a different ship, that I could be that Haitian, and I feel both privileged and angry.
When I'm in Medellin I see maybe two or three black's my whole trip. But I never see Colombians pointing or laughing or even paying me any attention whatsoever. So if they aren't outwardly worrying about my presence, why would I search for a racial problem. MHL spends more time exploring Colombia than I do, so he is qualified to share his opinion's.
It's funny how the people who now want to share their racial views (about Colombia) , never commented when we talked about the documentary"blacks in Latin America" that was recently featured in the Gogo forum (link in Gogo forum and it's free).
MiamiHeatLuver
06-10-11, 17:51
I hear ya bro. But I'm not trying to date, hangout, or marry anyone now. I just like their beauty and the few hours I spend with them in private. But you give good advise for someone who want's to get serious with a Colombiana. Also sorry about the Miami Heat loss last night LOL.My bro, the pain runs deep, Very deep! I was a drunken mess last night trying to calm the PAINNNN LOL. Home for the last 2 games is my only "silver lining" where we can easily win the next 2.
Bron Bron has disappeared the 4th quarter in the finals after being so strong in the 4th vs Boston and Chicago. Wade can't do it all.
People say he had the most quiet triple double you could have and another tweeter tweeted,"if you ask lebron for change for a $1 he'll only give you. 75 cents and never the 4th quarter. Hahaha LOL pretty imaginative.
I'm a fan til the End, I had season tickets in the 90's, when we started 0-18, all of those heartbreakers with the KNICKS.
Peace bro!
Mr Enternational
06-10-11, 21:48
I don't see too much interracial dating in Colombia at all, besides P4P of the very few A. A I have run into in my travels there. If anything I see more racism than any country. Some of my college girlfriends and guys comment about this topic quite a bit and its frowned upon in their opinions and say that their parents would NOT approve. I think its more older generation installed conservative point of view. Then the newer generations have been indoctrinated with this point of view and find it hard to remove. .First of all I know that I am in the wrong thread. But on this point I pretty much agree. I am black and now that I think about it I am the only black guy that I ever see with white and lighter skinned Colombianas. As to parents not approving, I have a friend in Bogota who is from Valledupar in the northeast. She says the same thing about her mother. She disapproves of her dating guys brown or dark even though she is mestizo and not light skinned or white. However, my friend's preference is for black guys.
A Colombiana is the most superficial creature on the planet! She sees, she wants and is envious.
I would never make a Colombiana a wife I don't think Way too high maintenance, want to live the life of a novela, to much drama and if she ever tastes the life of someone of a higher stratus she'll have a yearning for more and becomes less humble. Take it or leave it attitudes. As far as their feminism? They live for this as well. They are very high maintenance, constantly saving every single penny doing their hair (changing it many different shades) , New clothes, have to have the newest fashions, doing their nails, but still won't have one peso in their pocket and not 1 minute in their cellphone. Its almost the same from estrato 6 to 1. I have always wondered about this. These girls are used to being pampered and getting what they want, if you can't give it to them the will get it from somewhere and sometimes they are quickly ready to push the "NEXT" button. Don't let their beauty, charm, overwhelm you. I totally disagree with this part of the post. I have met only two Colombianas who thought I was going to sugar them up. I quickly cut them off. Most of the Colombianas I know (even those that live in the USA) are very humble and sweet ladies with open hearts. They are extremely low maintenance. They never ask for gifts or beauty money. They are just average, everyday, normal, down-to-earth women. All they want is minimal attention and for me to spend time with them. They call me more from their cell phones from Colombia to the USA than I call them. If ever I was to get hit over the head in an accident and the thought entered my mind of getting married, then it would no doubt be to a Colombian, Brazilian, or Thai; not necessarily in that order, but more than likely all three simultaneously.
*Disclaimer: I have never been to Medellin. All my experience is from women in Cali, Bogota, Barranquilla, and Cartagena.
Blk Big Bootyluv
06-10-11, 23:21
I'm going to have to agree with MR. GOGO 95% (just being difficult jaja) nah but when we where there we felt like the town was ours. I absolutely love how the Colombians pay you absolutely no mind, until you make them. A person can hide out for years in that city. Go to the casa's by day and hit our spot at night jajajaja. I can't believe we went there 5 nights in a row jajajaj. I love the place my. 02. Classy women. Not aggressive like DR women.
Disclaimer. I've only been to MDE and once at that.
Peace,
BBL
Orgasmicos post was point on. But Colombia is a different kind of beast verses the DR. As he said it's a bigger country with different variety. But Colombia is very dangerous, no fronting allowed. My experience is "low key" is the best. At first I had reservation's about talking about my favorite spot, but I know most people can't adapt so it doesn't matter. Some Spanish is a must, no walking around only knowing"Hola" like in Sosua.
Medeliin:
Some of the most finest women in the world. Understand being raised in Washington D. C. Which when I was growing up was 88% black, my family didn't believe in interracial dating. My Mom always told me to never bring a white woman home with me. I went to diverse schools but interracial dating was out (can't let Mom down). It wasn't until I went to Medellin that my mind was opened up. Were talking about pale women that have class, pretty toe's and hand's (natural) and a lady like quality. If I was 25 yo I would marry a Colombiana. I was introduced to white women where race didn't matter. I was hooked. The ladylike demeanor, style, and class, not to mention they make pretty babies (ever seen an ugly Black / Colombiana baby?). Medellin has a metro that goes everywhere, malls that have roofs that open like Cowboys new Stadium (Sante fe mall) , and sex that is late night and hidden during the day.
As I was telling Savepros yesterday via pm, most guy's don't know how to maneuver in Medellin. You have to tuck your tail, which most guys can't do. Understand Colombian people are not nosy they have their own agenda. So as long as you don't bring attention to yourself, the city is yours. Please remember Medellin has some gangster ass MF trying to lay low. They don't see you till you make them see you, then you have problems. You are right AH2 I don't walk around Medellin holding hand's. They come to the apartment to hang out or maybe we might walk to the corner to get Domino's pizza (yes they have Domino s). I've been invited to homes for dinner, but it goes back to my "low key" point, plus I don't want a wife. Just the private 6 hours before she works makes me happy. Drugs are plentiful, so if you indulge be careful. Medlelin has a lot of trap's and most guy's follow their hard dick and hope for the best. But it is a hidden paradise if you understand that flying low will keep you safe, most gringos don't understand or respect this. Here are some past pics.
Hillbilly69
06-11-11, 00:19
I am probably not qualified to get into arguement of racism in Colombia seeing I was one of first gringos into Medellin this being my 13th year.
But I will tell you this the hottest Colombian chics I have ever seen with Gringos were with African Americans [not putas]. First one comes to mind was a nerdy looking fellow I met in Cali in Spring of 2005, man the chics this guy was with. Dude!
Then Cali again but May 2009 I was staying at Cali Plaza ISG member Blackknight was there with his posse but it was another dude damn I couldn't keep my eyes off her. He was tall plump but real happy fellow quite friendly, she was light skinned smoking hot!
The 3rd one I remember was a wingman of ISG member Locogringo, his girlfriend from Cartagena. Dude! Damn! Probably hottest chic I have seen in Cartagena to date, he met her in grocery store in Bocagrande.
Now that being said my first trip to Medellin Feb 1999 I noticed the only blacks I saw were either cleaning the streets or sleeping in them. I asked several girls about this they responded there was no racism. Yea right! I never seen anything like it.
I have black Colombian girl.friend who works in Hooters Jardin Plaza Cali, Colombia and she works hard against predudice in Colombia and I feel for her.
Charles Pooter
06-11-11, 01:01
Colombia has the largest black Spanish speaking community in the world. To some people race is everything, life is to important to me to look at race relations and make it a top priority. Sure I care, everytime I see a poor Haitian in Sosua I think if my ancestors were forced on a different ship, that I could be that Haitian, and I feel both privileged and angry.
When I'm in Medellin I see maybe two or three black's my whole trip. But I never see Colombians pointing or laughing or even paying me any attention whatsoever. So if they aren't outwardly worrying about my presence, why would I search for a racial problem. MHL spends more time exploring Colombia than I do, so he is qualified to share his opinion's. I queried your posting "race doesn't matter" in Colombia, which is clearly untrue as other posters here agree. All you are now saying is that it doesn't matter to you, which is a different thing altogether. Millions of tourists from Europe and the US used to visit apartheid South Africa and have a great time. The racial issues there didn't bother them too much but that doesn't mean they "didn't matter".
They matter to 25% of the population in Colombia who are, with few exceptions, denied the chance to advance up the social and professional ladders because of the color of their skin. Same applies to DR, and I would guess most other Latin American countries. It also applies to a great extent in Haďti where the 10% of the population who have lighter skins (often French speaking) own 90% of the wealth.
It's funny how the people who now want to share their racial views (about Colombia), never commented when we talked about the documentary"blacks in Latin America" that was recently featured in the Gogo forum (link in Gogo forum and it's free).I presume that is a dig at me. I try to avoid commenting on things on which I have no knowledge, and as I haven't seen this program, and as there were a good range of views expressed here, I felt I had nothing to add. I did ask a friend in the States to record the program on a DVD for me, which he kindly did, but left it behind the bar at Rocky's to be picked up by another friend who lives in Sosúa. Needless to say it was "gone in sixty seconds" so I still haven't seen the program.
I queried your posting "race doesn't matter" in Colombia, which is clearly untrue as other posters here agree. All you are now saying is that it doesn't matter to you, which is a different thing altogether. Millions of tourists from Europe and the US used to visit apartheid South Africa and have a great time. The racial issues there didn't bother them too much but that doesn't mean they "didn't matter".
They matter to 25% of the population in Colombia who are, with few exceptions, denied the chance to advance up the social and professional ladders because of the color of their skin. Same applies to DR, and I would guess most other Latin American countries. It also applies to a great extent in Haďti where the 10% of the population who have lighter skins (often French speaking) own 90% of the wealth.
I presume that is a dig at me. I try to avoid commenting on things on which I have no knowledge, and as I haven't seen this program, and as there were a good range of views expressed here, I felt I had nothing to add. I did ask a friend in the States to record the program on a DVD for me, which he kindly did, but left it behind the bar at Rocky's to be picked up by another friend who lives in Sosúa. Needless to say it was "gone in sixty seconds" so I still haven't seen the program.There is a link Sir Charles in the Gogo forum. If you have a
Computer, as I'm positive you do, you can view this documentary any time you like. It is a very good show. The first episode is the DR. The second is Cuba (which I liked best, then Brazil, Central America and Mexico. Each episode is one hour long.
I just think with all this racial talk, that has moved onto Europe and South Africa, you forgot to mention England. Which I hear is the worst.
Sorry Sir Charles, Gogo fuckup. The video appears to be gone. I guess they want to get paid for it now. I will see if I can get it from somewhere else and post it.
SavePros321
06-11-11, 04:40
Sorry Sir Charles, Gogo fuckup. The video appears to be gone. I guess they want to get paid for it now. I will see if I can get it from somewhere else and post it.All of the full episodes are still there for free on the website:
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/black-in-latin-america/
But someone commented that they were not able to view the episodes from the DR, so it is possible that Sir Charles will encounter the same problem.
All of the full episodes are still there for free on the website:
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/black-in-latin-america/
But someone commented that they were not able to view the episodes from the DR, so it is possible that Sir Charles will encounter the same problem.Thank's Savepros. Sir Charles get some tea, relax and enjoy this documentary. I just watched it again. And Sir Charles I know you are well educated, and a historian so your opinion will be interesting regarding this topic. But after you watch the DR episode, please watch the Cuba episode, that's the one I liked best. And Savepros was that Cubana historian with the glasses that the Professor interviewed fine or what. Sir Charles give me your evaluation in the Gogo forum so that the "New Sosua' newbies don't get mad.
Spot on Frannie!
As an AA I am more inclined to "soul sistas" and the Caribbean has been perfect for that. It's the one thing that is keeping me from making up my mind between COL and DR. Sure (I hear) that Colombian women are beautiful, but I know what I like: Hips and Ass. There is plenty of that in the DR, LOL! This is what I happen to notice on a woman before even taking into account what her face looks like (beauty, which is always in the eye of the beholder).
If I want "white-skinned" females, light-skinned AA females or Dominicanas usually fill this void perfectly. But I like all shades of black; from the darkest to the lightest. We have lots of chicas from all around Latin America on my campus, but the ones that usually always catch my eye are the ones from the Caribbean (PR, Cuba, DR, etc.) (those chicas from Cali (not California) are pretty hot too!). When I see chicas from countries outside of that realm, I think to myself "well, if I have to. If I were on business in that country then sure."Ah, the race thing.
I'm a paleface who always admired (and lusted after) black women, but my backgound was such that I never encountered them up close in my early life. (Oh Lordy, I'm going to die without ever fucking Gladys Knight) Later spent a lot of time in the Bahamas where I finally got to get it on.
But there was never a real connection. I met a Georgetown girl and we hung around for a few days, but she never took me seriously. I have a Jamaican Canadian female friend up here and we spent hours over drinks discussing this. She basically told me that a real black girl could never take me seriously because I could never really relate to the "black experience" which pissed me off because it sounded like reverse racism. She was telling me that she can move in both worlds, but I will always be restricted to one. Fuck that!
But she was right. Both she and my really good friend (another Jamaican Canadian guy. We are like family) tend to compartmentalise our friendship. They have their black friends, then they have me. Most of their friends are OK but basically just tolerate me. There's no real connection there. She did tell me though after seeing pics and hearing my Sosua story that she thought my chica was not just in it for the money alone, and encouraged me.
Which brings me back on topic.
When I first met my DR chica she seemed to spend a lot of time showing me pics of her family and almost bragging about some who had lighter skin. She is chocolate and said she was just a throw back. She missed the point. Her blackness was what turned me on in the first place. When I first met her family, they treated me as "special" read gringo.
Now after 2 1/2 years its perfect. They treat me like family and I pitch in with the chores and the kids like the rest of them. They tell my buddy when he's there that I'm "no gringo. He's dominican" which is the highest compliment. My chica and I share a level of intimacy, thoughts and dreams and mutual respect that has lasted longer than anything I had before.
Maybe dominican is not "real" black, but I've finally crossed over and truly connected. I feel I'm a lucky guy!
Manizales911
06-11-11, 15:49
I am trying to contact one of my "regulars" in Sosua to get more info but I have been told a gringo took a bullet in the leg while partying in El Flow as a gunfight broke out. I was also told their was some kind of "raid" at La Passion by the cops looking for drugs. Anybody with any knowledge of either event please post.
MiamiHeatLuver
06-11-11, 17:34
I totally disagree with this part of the post. I have met only two Colombianas who thought I was going to sugar them up. I quickly cut them off. Most of the Colombianas I know (even those that live in the USA) are very humble and sweet ladies with open hearts. They are extremely low maintenance. They never ask for gifts or beauty money. They are just average, everyday, normal, down-to-earth women. All they want is minimal attention and for me to spend time with them. They call me more from their cell phones from Colombia to the USA than I call them. If ever I was to get hit over the head in an accident and the thought entered my mind of getting married, then it would no doubt be to a Colombian, Brazilian, or Thai; not necessarily in that order, but more than likely all three simultaneously.
*Disclaimer: I have never been to Medellin. All my experience is from women in Cali, Bogota, Barranquilla, and Cartagena. Well I'm glad we can agree to DISAGREE here, I have been to Clo, Bog, Mde many many times and I'm not talking about prepagos looking for "lotto gringos or western union novios" that's a whole nother animal. I'm talking that the majority I have run into are very superficial and have a "see, want, envious" attitude. These are women from estrato 1 to 6, Maybe the higher estrato girl knows how to hide their feelings better but you better believe its there.
As far as the Colombiana in the US? At least the chicas I know in NYC are absolutely the WORST ones because they already got their "golden ticket" out of the country and don't need shit from you. They can concentrate on being bandidas and superficial. Of course I'm not talking about the older generation Colombiana that has lived in the states for years. They have learned to become humble. Believe me I avoid the Colombianas in Queens, When you are scared to get a rotten apple, don't pick one off the floor (NYC) pick a fresh one off the tree (In an estrato 3 barrior in Colombia)
SavePros321
06-11-11, 23:37
Maybe dominican is not "real" black, but I've finally crossed over and truly connected. I feel I'm a lucky guy!It sure as hell isn't "fake black" Oakie, LOL.
Maybe you should check out Professor Gate's historical Documentary as well (it's free!) to get a better perspective of the island's background:
Full Episode: Haiti & the Dominican Republic: An Island Divided
"In the Dominican Republic, Professor Gates explores how race has been socially constructed in a society whose people reflect centuries of inter-marriage, and how the country’s troubled history with Haiti informs notions about racial classification..."
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/black-in-latin-america/featured/haiti-the-dominican-republic-an-island-divided-watch-full-episode/165/
[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1165141]It sure as hell isn't "fake black" Oakie, LOL.
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Well she's no Gladys Knight and I'm not that much closer to AA's. I don't need to tell you that skin color means fuck all, but culture is everything. Maybe in my next life?
Funny thing tho, now you mention it she was in the shower do the weekkly washing out of her rats nest hair and weaves. When I went in there was like brown dye running down the drain. Hey, I sad, rubbing her skin, you lie to me, you're not black at all, it's fake color! And it's coming off! I picked her up wet and naked, deposited her in the hall and closed the door. She went crazy, but she's never stopped laughing and telling folks about it.
[QUOTE Maybe you should check out Professor Gate's historical Documentary as well (it's free!) to get a better perspective of the island's background:
Full Episode: Haiti & the Dominican Republic: An Island Divided
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Thanks. I did and found it fascinating. For anybody intending to go down there more than once, I'd say it's required viewing.
Quick wifey update:
Between weather considerations, family obligations, passport and at least one expired visa, its been a over year of delays in the planning now, but she's finally got all her papers and confirmed her flight up here for July 15. Never been out of the country and never been on a plane. This could shape up as the beginning of the end, or even the end of the beginning. We'll see!
AlwaysHorny 2
06-12-11, 03:30
ok, now all this columbia talk has peeked my interest. i was all set for an early december return to sosua, but i may change my plans.
what part is "better" to visit?
is it possible to see two cities in one week?
is a gfe possible?
i know this is not the board for columbia questions, but i trust the.
opinion of a few of you.
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