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Frannie
07-24-11, 17:10
Sure there is. Almost any chica at a massage parlor will offer a BJ or FS. You can pick up chicas on the beach. You can pick up most chicas you walk past on the street. And you can get the phone number of any chica you pick up at night and have her come over during the daytime.Yes, and communication is the key. You can communicate with chicas enough to have sex even if you don't speak any Spanish, but the more you know the easier it gets, so at least learn some basics before a first visit. The first time I came to the DR I started teaching myself Spanish only six weeks earlier with some CDs, and by the end of my first three day visit, I found I was already ordering breakfast without reference to the menu, or conducting prescreening interviews for chicas without a dictionary.

I have to admire Cortoetempo who was here recently, who had never spoken a word of Spanish before, but had studied a book called, I think, Spanish for SAT, and hit the ground speaking rapid but atrocious Spanish, calling girls on his phone, talking to everyone, and generally getting his point across very effectively.

A useful tool these days, if you have a computer with wi fi, is Google translator, as the beginner in Spanish may be able to type in conversational remarks that will be translated into Spanish on the screen, but there is no substitute for a smile, a hug, a kiss, and a gentle touch when it comes to getting across your general point.

Mr Gogo
07-24-11, 17:15
Yes, there is lots, and you can pay whatever you want, because you offer and they either accept or decline. You can find girls at massage parlors and do it on site, or get a masaje domicilario, which means she comes to your hotel to give you a massage (sex). Alternatively you can meet ladies at night and arrange to see them next day at given time or place. You will also see the same girls who are out at night walking around in the daytime (not before midday) and if you stop and chat with them, they will often be up for a little after lunch or predinner hanky panky.

Also any girl who returns your smile in the street may be worth furthering a discussion. You can't just ask How Much for ficky ficky to a civilian girl, but you can tell her that a girl as pretty as her must have many novios and let her come back at you. If she says she has no novio, but is looking, that may be considered a come on.

I just had a girl at 10 am this morning. I had been flirting with her for over a week as she had never had sex with a foreigner before, only with Dominican boyfriends, and has no children but she really needed money. Having established this fact, I let the whole matter cool for several days, and didn't mention the matter again until today although I saw her a few times at her workplace, to allow some tension to build.

Today, the deed was done and OMG that was one of most perfect ever. She was a little nervous, but as wet as the Rio Grande in the rainy season, and although I have enjoyed many Dominicanas, this was one of the sweetest and hottest sessions ever, like having sex for the first time.

I am not a great fan of condoms, as if they are tight they tend to squeeze the blood out of you, and you can't feel a thing, but today with this girl there was so much lubrication it felt like bareback and it was all pure pleasure and not the tedious chore that sex can easily become.

Of course my real motive was to take one for the team, because if she found her first encounter with a gringo pleasurable, then surely it would only be a matter of time before others would have the chance to follow suit.

However, she swore me to secrecy, so I cannot give a name, phone number, or GPS location, but relay this information purely for entertainment purposes and so that anyone planning to visit Sosua may contemplate what may be possible even if you are elderly, ugly, and overweight, and just got out of bed.Gee, thanks for taking one for all of us. You are truly fortunate to find the one non working girl in Sosua, who has never fucked a guy from another country. You covered all angles this trip, from the 600peso Haitian massage girls to the undiscovered jem. Thats a hard act to follow.

Enricos
07-24-11, 17:16
Yes, there is lots, and you can pay whatever you want, because you offer and they either accept or decline. You can find girls at massage parlors and do it on site, or get a masaje domicilario, which means she comes to your hotel to give you a massage (sex). Alternatively you can meet ladies at night and arrange to see them next day at given time or place. You will also see the same girls who are out at night walking around in the daytime (not before midday) and if you stop and chat with them, they will often be up for a little after lunch or predinner hanky panky.

Also any girl who returns your smile in the street may be worth furthering a discussion. You can't just ask How Much for ficky ficky to a civilian girl, but you can tell her that a girl as pretty as her must have many novios and let her come back at you. If she says she has no novio, but is looking, that may be considered a come on.

I just had a girl at 10 am this morning. I had been flirting with her for over a week as she had never had sex with a foreigner before, only with Dominican boyfriends, and has no children but she really needed money. Having established this fact, I let the whole matter cool for several days, and didn't mention the matter again until today although I saw her a few times at her workplace, to allow some tension to build.

Today, the deed was done and OMG that was one of most perfect ever. She was a little nervous, but as wet as the Rio Grande in the rainy season, and although I have enjoyed many Dominicanas, this was one of the sweetest and hottest sessions ever, like having sex for the first time.

I am not a great fan of condoms, as if they are tight they tend to squeeze the blood out of you, and you can't feel a thing, but today with this girl there was so much lubrication it felt like bareback and it was all pure pleasure and not the tedious chore that sex can easily become.

Of course my real motive was to take one for the team, because if she found her first encounter with a gringo pleasurable, then surely it would only be a matter of time before others would have the chance to follow suit.

However, she swore me to secrecy, so I cannot give a name, phone number, or GPS location, but relay this information purely for entertainment purposes and so that anyone planning to visit Sosua may contemplate what may be possible even if you are elderly, ugly, and overweight, and just got out of bed.Good sound advice all the way around. I always say if your breathing and have the money your in.

Orgasmico
07-25-11, 04:08
You are truly fortunate to find the one non working girl in Sosua, who has never fucked a guy from another country.I was reading that and reflecting on three chicas I banged on my last trip that told me the same thing.

Llttf
07-25-11, 04:15
Thanks.

The Silversmith place is new.It has been there for many years. Right across from La Roca

Frannie
07-25-11, 04:24
I was reading that and reflecting on three chicas I banged on my last trip that told me the same thing.Yeah, well obviously you can never be sure if it is the truth, but on balance from what I know of this chica it MAY be true. Anyway, it was very good and she was very nervous and excited, so why look a gift horse in the mouth? Ultimately the truth does not really matter, but what counts is that she is excited, and not jaded or blase.

What did you think of your three chicas? Did any of them seem plausible or was it evident that it was BS?

Frannie
07-25-11, 04:36
Gee, thanks for taking one for all of us.You are welcome.

Orgasmico
07-25-11, 05:06
Bro, I have thousands of chica pics from my travels in the hobby. I will not put any of them on any board. Why? Most dudes on these boards cannot be trusted. And I have a hard time trusting anybody who I have not personally met. I'll be down next month. I will be taking a shit load of pics. If I do decide to put up pics, they will be of inanimate objects like buildings and food.Sounds good, bro. I wish more people realized what you have. I've decided to pretty much do the same thing.

Orgasmico
07-25-11, 05:14
What did you think of your three chicas? Did any of them seem plausible or was it evident that it was BS?They could have been telling me the truth. In general, I don't dwell on this stuff much when I meet a chica in Sosua because I know what Sosua is about, but anything is possible. I thought it was a bit bizarre though for 3 to tell me the same thing. Obviously, this has no correlation, that I know of, with your situation, other than it reminded me of my last trip.

Frannie
07-25-11, 05:59
They could have been telling me the truth. In general, I don't dwell on this stuff much when I meet a chica in Sosua because I know what Sosua is about, but anything is possible. I thought it was a bit bizarre though for 3 to tell me the same thing. Obviously, this has no correlation, that I know of, with your situation, other than it reminded me of my last trip.Just interesting. It could be that with the economy offering so little employment that there are more chicas trying their hand at gringo catching, or it could be that with increasing access to the Internet, more chicas are able to make contacts and get away from controling families. Or it could just be BS.

Obviously with hundreds, if not thousands, of new chicas coming on the market every year, it can't be too unusual to snare first timers, especially if you avoid the most ostentatious and aggressive chicas. A lot of girls go out night after night without being taken, especially if they lack marketing skills or good looks.

Of course, as I said before, the real interest is not so much a question of a kind of gringo virginity cult, but the fact that they may be more sexually aroused as a result of stepping into unknown territory.

I really don´t like mongering. I only do it for the sex.

Rick Rock
07-25-11, 06:50
Why are you paying extra?I'm not yet. That's why I'm asking. Never paid for pics, but never tried vid in DR.

Mr Enternational
07-25-11, 16:15
You know the sob story is usually the prelude, before the request for financial help. My mother is sick in the hospital. Que pena. I have no money to pay the university. Que pena.I thought the girl I met who works at Claro in the grocery store in SD was attempting to take me for a ride last week. I must admit I was totally caught off guard. Turned out to be a false alarm though!

Jaquelin said: hola t puedo pedir un favor.

Mrenternational x_x_x said: depende. Que es?

Jaquelin said: ya page mi casa necesito pagar la universidad m lo presta.

Mrenternational x_x_x said: de donde?

Jaquelin said: hay disculpa st msj era para mi hermana de verdad perdona y tu cm estas

MiamiHeatLuver
07-25-11, 16:46
I thought the girl I met who works at Claro in the grocery store in SD was attempting to take me for a ride last week. I must admit I was totally caught off guard. Turned out to be a false alarm though!

Jaquelin said: hola t puedo pedir un favor.

Mrenternational x_x_x said: depende. Que es?

Jaquelin said: ya page mi casa necesito pagar la universidad m lo presta.

Mrenternational x_x_x said: de donde?

Jaquelin said: hay disculpa st msj era para mi hermana de verdad perdona why tu cm estasI don't know buddy, sounds like she might have gotten a weary and affraid of losing you by the way you wrote "de donde" and then played it off like she thought she was writing it to her sister. These bitches are much more slick then we give them credit. I mean how many lines of chat via, BBMessenger, MSN, Texting, do you have to write before you figure out your talking to the wrong person? That happens to everybody but usually just one line of text.

Jaosousa
07-25-11, 17:13
I don't know buddy, sounds like she might have gotten a weary and affraid of losing you by the way you wrote "de donde" and then played it off like she thought she was writing it to her sister. These bitches are much more slick then we give them credit. I mean how many lines of chat via, BBMessenger, MSN, Texting, do you have to write before you figure out your talking to the wrong person? That happens to everybody but usually just one line of text.I have been out with a few who are busy texting on their Blackberry phones, while they are with me. To me it is rude, but if the chica provides good service, I don't care. I can only imagine what some of them are texting and to whom, when they are sitting across the table from me, at some bar."Estoy sola amor, en mi cama, piensar en ti, te extrano, cuando puedes enviar el dinero?" (I am alone, in my bed, thinking about you, I miss you, when can you send the money?) LOL.

Many DR chicas cannot send a text message with their photo to another cell phone, supposedly they have to have multimedia for their cell phone. One chica told me that she can send photos in Blackberry messenger. I usually save a chica's name in my cell with the first few letters of her name, then maybe sd for santo domingo, or lv for la vega, or st for santiago. I have numerous Marilyns, Karens, Lilly, and others with the same name. I get them mixed up, some I can't remember their face. Would be helpful if I could receive a photo of their face in my cell, from their cell. I don't like to put full names, because some chicas are like spies and will go through my cell, if they get the chance, a name saved liked marsd, I can always say is Mario a male friend from the states, blah blah blah.

MiamiHeatLuver
07-25-11, 18:15
I have been out with a few who are busy texting on their Blackberry phones, while they are with me. To me it is rude, but if the chica provides good service, I don't care. I can only imagine what some of them are texting and to whom, when they are sitting across the table from me, at some bar."Estoy sola amor, en mi cama, piensar en ti, te extrano, cuando puedes enviar el dinero?" (I am alone, in my bed, thinking about you, I miss you, when can you send the money?) LOL.

We know this so well already bro, but thats one of the perks of being an experienced monger, we just take it as it comes and laugh are asses off at the poor lost soul on the other end of the line. Ready to send his next online " WU payment". It will be more difficult for the bitches to Hoe around though as FACETIME becomes more prevalent. Its a real conondrum for the Hardcore puta with a few novios. Im sure they will opt not to have a phone with FACETIME.

I have so many hoe's and lady friends in my phones with the same first names. Its impossible to have them in my phone with just one name, location and remember who they are. So photo cataloging is a must for me. My second cell is for the novia and her family and friends of course. Got to have that second cell if you want to have a serious girl as well because it just a matter of time before you're in a place where you CAN'T pick up and we all know how awkward that gets. P. S. MAKE SURE YOU TURN OFF your puta phone and hide it like you're money. Because if she finds it or hears it? Your goose is fully cooked!

Orgasmico
07-26-11, 12:11
I have been out with a few who are busy texting on their Blackberry phones, while they are with me. To me it is rude, but if the chica provides good service, I don't care. I can only imagine what some of them are texting and to whomWas this one of the chicas?

Ath Trainer
07-26-11, 12:36
Never flown into POP before. I am supposed to be picked up by a driver from NG.

Do I need to change $ at the airport, or can I wait till after I check in at the hotel and go to the bank?

What time do the banks close?

Anybody ever use this service? Where do you meet the driver? Will there be people standing outside of customs w / signs?

Thanks!

Frannie
07-26-11, 14:04
Never flown into POP before. I am supposed to be picked up by a driver from NG.

Do I need to change $ at the airport, or can I wait till after I check in at the hotel and go to the bank?

What time do the banks close?

Anybody ever use this service? Where do you meet the driver? Will there be people standing outside of customs w / signs?

Thanks!You can change money at a reasonable rate of exchange at the BanReservas bank that is on the OUTSIDE concourse of the airport, not the ripoff change booth next to the tourist card counter inside the airport. Do this before you get in the taxi.

Another alternative is that you just tell your taxi driver that you need to get change on the way and he will take you by ¨Change Corner¨ in Sosua, just round the corner from the New Garden and you can change currency without getting out of the taxi.

Banks are closed weekends and holidays and open until about 4 30 pm on weekdays, but there are several cambios in Sosua where you can change money at all hours and days. Just walk along the street and men will say Chench, Chench. This means they are offering to change money for you.

SavePros321
07-26-11, 15:10
Never flown into POP before. I am supposed to be picked up by a driver from NG.

Do I need to change $ at the airport, or can I wait till after I check in at the hotel and go to the bank?

What time do the banks close?

Anybody ever use this service? Where do you meet the driver? Will there be people standing outside of customs w / signs?

Thanks!The driver will be waiting for you outside after you exit the airport with your baggage. He will be holding a sign that says NG and will have your name on it. Look for him in the small crowd of other people holding signs with people's name on them.

I would at least show up with the taxi fare in USD. You are also going to need $10 to pay the entry fee after your flight. There used to be a time that they did not have change but that did not seem to be the problem last time I was there. I would still show up with a $10 bill anyway to avoid any problems.

You can ask the driver to stop by Western Union on the way to NG. They have really good exchange rates. You will need your passport to do this.

I have always used the Cambio that is between El Flow and some clothing store and never had any problems there and also received favorable rates. You may want to use this place if you decide to check into the hotel first. Not sure what time the bank closes but it is always a long line inside so I've always just used the ATM.

Manizales911
07-26-11, 15:57
The driver will be waiting for you outside after you exit the airport with your baggage. He will be holding a sign that says NG and will have your name on it. Look for him in the small crowd of other people holding signs with people's name on them.

I would at least show up with the taxi fare in USD. You are also going to need $10 to pay the entry fee after your flight. There used to be a time that they did not have change but that did not seem to be the problem last time I was there. I would still show up with a $10 bill anyway to avoid any problems.

You can ask the driver to stop by Western Union on the way to NG. They have really good exchange rates. You will need your passport to do this.

I have always used the Cambio that is between El Flow and some clothing store and never had any problems there and also received favorable rates. You may want to use this place if you decide to check into the hotel first. Not sure what time the bank closes but it is always a long line inside so I've always just used the ATM.Savepros,

Be VERY CAREFUL exchanging money with the guy next to El Flow, he is a thief! Between me and one of my friends he has tried to short change us four times in a row! The reason we go back to him is strictly for sport now, I have called this guy out three times myself personally and he still will try to fuck us. Now maybe it is a sport to him too but I know other people that he has tried to screw.

Ath Trainer
07-26-11, 16:36
Thanks for the quick and helpful responses to my questions. Since you guys did such a good job, I will ask a few more.

Does the driver usually speak any English? What's an appropriate tip for him?
Suggested denominations of pesos to get?

I know that most will say that this is too pricey, but I would just like to ask to have it as an option. At the Passions web site, they say you can get a girl on site for a "massage" for 1500 and FS for 2500. Is the massage just a massage? How long are these on site sessions? 1 hour?

Also, can you get a Passions girl in your room for ST (other than when she is not working).

I am still looking for a street map of Sosua with hotels, bars, etc. Not really looking for a google map, just a basic street map. I know I've seen one, but can't seem to find it.

Thanks.

All these questions are popping into my head before I leave.

Jaosousa
07-26-11, 17:50
The website for the Hotel Orchidee in Sosua, has a humorous street map, with many places listed and their location on the street map: http://www.hotelorchidee.ch/cms/en/lageplan-mainmenu-31.html


Thanks for the quick and helpful responses to my questions. Since you guys did such a good job, I will ask a few more.

Does the driver usually speak any English? What's an appropriate tip for him?

Suggested denominations of pesos to get?

I know that most will say that this is too pricey, but I would just like to ask to have it as an option. At the Passions web site, they say you can get a girl on site for a "massage" for 1500 and FS for 2500. Is the massage just a massage? How long are these on site sessions? 1 hour?

Also, can you get a Passions girl in your room for ST (other than when she is not working).

I am still looking for a street map of Sosua with hotels, bars, etc. Not really looking for a google map, just a basic street map. I know I've seen one, but can't seem to find it.

Thanks.

All these questions are popping into my head before I leave.

Jaosousa
07-26-11, 17:53
Was this one of the chicas?That is hilarious, thanks.

Frannie
07-26-11, 18:05
thanks for the quick and helpful responses to my questions. since you guys did such a good job, i will ask a few more.

does the driver usually speak any english? what's an appropriate tip for him?

suggested denominations of pesos to get?

i know that most will say that this is too pricey, but i would just like to ask to have it as an option. at the passions web site, they say you can get a girl on site for a "massage" for 1500 and fs for 2500. is the massage just a massage? how long are these on site sessions? 1 hour?

also, can you get a passions girl in your room for st (other than when she is not working).

i am still looking for a street map of sosua with hotels, bars, etc. not really looking for a google map, just a basic street map. i know i've seen one, but can't seem to find it.

thanks.

all these questions are popping into my head before i leave.do not worry about whether taxi drivers speak english. they make a living picking up foreigners at the airport. they always get paid. negotiate the price before you get in taxi. 500 pesos (kiniento paysose) or 20 dollars (benti dollarays) us. no damn tip.

you can say- necesito cambio (i need change) and they will understand. they are expecting that you will need change. you just arrived at the airport. everyone needs change. they pick up tourists daily. they get it.

you do not need a fucking map of sosua. relax. this is not chicago. exit new garden hotel and walk one time around the block. you will have seen 75% of the town, and if you want to go to la pasion just hop on a motoconcho and say ¨chicas¨and give the dude 30 pesos. it is only a few hundred yards walk up the main street anyway. there is nothing that is not an easy 10 minutes walk from new garden hotel, but most everything is no more than 5 minutes walk.

massage at la passion includes dick work in the price. they call this masaje completo. theoretically half an hour, but once you have had an orgasm it is over, so don't point out that you have 5 minutes left and ask to have your sore ankle rubbed. these girls are not massage therapists.

or you can step out of new garden hotel and walk about 50 yards to the right to belkis beauty salon and ask for claribel or nelli and they will do the job 10 times better for less money.

you can get fs at la passion for 2500 pesos, but you can get it from any girl outside for 1500 pesos. they may ask for 2500 pesos, but just tell them you only have 1500 pesos, and do not pull out a huge wad of notes or tell them that you just arrived.

if they say cuando llegaste? (when did you arrive) you do not tell them you arrived today, because the question is aimed at determining whether you are a sucker loaded with cash. tell them three days. tell them all your cash is gone. if you do not know any spanish use sign language or any other language you know. even if you say me want ficky ficky they will understand you.

bring a pair of cargo shorts with very deep pockets, so your wallet is somewhere down by your knees. that way it cannot fall out and no one can pick your pocket without putting their arm in down to the elbow.

if you pm me when you get here, i can find some nice ladies for you if you wish, but most likely you will be fighting them off for dear life without any help.

SavePros321
07-26-11, 18:42
Savepros,

Be VERY CAREFUL exchanging money with the guy next to El Flow, he is a thief! Between me and one of my friends he has tried to short change us four times in a row! The reason we go back to him is strictly for sport now, I have called this guy out three times myself personally and he still will try to fuck us. Now maybe it is a sport to him too but I know other people that he has tried to screw.Thanks for that info. I'm going to be mindful of that next time. I've never exchanged large amounts at his spot though. My wingman was the one to point the place out to me so I'll pass the info on to him as well. Just figured it was always a better alternative to the guy that stands across from TL yelling "Change!", lol.

SavePros321
07-26-11, 18:53
Does the driver usually speak any English? What's an appropriate tip for him?

Suggested denominations of pesos to get?
Negotiate the price before you get in taxi. 500 pesos (Kiniento paysose) or 20 dollars (Benti dollarays) US. No damn tip.You will not be able to negotiate any price different than what NG tells you the taxi price is for their driver. If you requested that NG have a driver pick you up, then you need to ask NG what the price will be for the ride (I think it is between $20-25 USD) and that is what the driver will be expecting you to pay him once he drops you off.

If you want to negotiate a lower fare, then you need to cancel the airport pickup request with NG and then negotiate with the taxis waiting outside the airport when you arrive. I honestly do not think you will do any better than $20. Some will tell you to try, but you are probably going to be standing outside by yourself for a very long time because no one is going to want to pick you up for less than that.

If you want to tip, place a $1 bill in the box of the musicians after you exit your flight for good luck and a good trip!



Suggested denominations of pesos to get?

Just depends on how much you plan to spend everyday including meals and chicas. Regardless of which Cambio you go to ALWAYS ask them the rate they are giving you. OANDA is currently showing 37.53 but I am positive you could get 38 per USD. The hotels probably will have the worst rates. Ask other mongers where they change their money. I've always gotten the best rates from the ATM, but there are some ATMs that will only let you take out 2000RD. You want the ones that will let you withdraw 10,000RD daily. Always have enough cash on hand in case the ATM is out of money or is fucked up (out of service). I think the one at Banco Popular (next to Bailey's) allows for 10,000RD withdrawals, but on almost every trip I've been on their machines aren't working. There are a bunch of ATM machines at the intersection of (?) on the way towards La Passions and the sea-greenish-looking hotel who's name I can't remember right now.

Ath Trainer
07-26-11, 19:29
do not worry about whether taxi drivers speak english. they make a living picking up foreigners at the airport. they always get paid. negotiate the price before you get in taxi. 500 pesos (kiniento paysose) or 20 dollars (benti dollarays) us. no damn tip.

you can say- necesito cambio (i need change) and they will understand. they are expecting that you will need change. you just arrived at the airport. everyone needs change. they pick up tourists daily. they get it.

you do not need a fucking map of sosua. relax. this is not chicago. exit new garden hotel and walk one time around the block. you will have seen 75% of the town, and if you want to go to la pasion just hop on a motoconcho and say ¨chicas¨and give the dude 30 pesos. it is only a few hundred yards walk up the main street anyway. there is nothing that is not an easy 10 minutes walk from new garden hotel, but most everything is no more than 5 minutes walk.

massage at la passion includes dick work in the price. they call this masaje completo. theoretically half an hour, but once you have had an orgasm it is over, so don't point out that you have 5 minutes left and ask to have your sore ankle rubbed. these girls are not massage therapists.

or you can step out of new garden hotel and walk about 50 yards to the right to belkis beauty salon and ask for claribel or nelli and they will do the job 10 times better for less money.

you can get fs at la passion for 2500 pesos, but you can get it from any girl outside for 1500 pesos. they may ask for 2500 pesos, but just tell them you only have 1500 pesos, and do not pull out a huge wad of notes or tell them that you just arrived.

if they say cuando llegaste? (when did you arrive) you do not tell them you arrived today, because the question is aimed at determining whether you are a sucker loaded with cash. tell them three days. tell them all your cash is gone. if you do not know any spanish use sign language or any other language you know. even if you say me want ficky ficky they will understand you.

bring a pair of cargo shorts with very deep pockets, so your wallet is somewhere down by your knees. that way it cannot fall out and no one can pick your pocket without putting their arm in down to the elbow.

if you pm me when you get here, i can find some nice ladies for you if you wish, but most likely you will be fighting them off for dear life without any help.i have the ride from the airport arranged from ng. it's $20.

i know not to come off as a "newbie", which is why i am asking so many questions.

la pasions:

1500 = hj 2500 = fs (is this 1/2 hour, also?)

i like the look of their girls. seem to be leaner than a lot of dr chicas.

i am aware of the prices and differences between la pasions and the free lancers.

may take you up on the "nice lady" offer. good service is important since i'm only there for a few days, and leche is limited, lol.

Ath Trainer
07-26-11, 19:34
You will not be able to negotiate any price different than what NG tells you the taxi price is for their driver. If you requested that NG have a driver pick you up, then you need to ask NG what the price will be for the ride (I think it is between $20-25 USD) and that is what the driver will be expecting you to pay him once he drops you off.

If you want to negotiate a lower fare, then you need to cancel the airport pickup request with NG and then negotiate with the taxis waiting outside the airport when you arrive. I honestly do not think you will do any better than $20. Some will tell you to try, but you are probably going to be standing outside by yourself for a very long time because no one is going to want to pick you up for less than that.

If you want to tip, place a $1 bill in the box of the musicians after you exit your flight for good luck and a good trip!

Just depends on how much you plan to spend everyday including meals and chicas. Regardless of which Cambio you go to ALWAYS ask them the rate they are giving you. OANDA is currently showing 37. 53 but I am positive you could get 38 per USD. The hotels probably will have the worst rates. Ask other mongers where they change their money. I've always gotten the best rates from the ATM, but there are some ATMs that will only let you take out 2000RD. You want the ones that will let you withdraw 10, 000RD daily. Always have enough cash on hand in case the ATM is out of money or is fucked up (out of service). I think the one at Banco Popular (next to Bailey's) allows for 10, 000RD withdrawals, but on almost every trip I've been on their machines aren't working. There are a bunch of ATM machines at the intersection of (?) on the way towards La Passions and the sea-greenish-looking hotel who's name I can't remember right now.Using the ATM might give a better rate, but I will get charged a service charge by my bank that will probably wash out the advantage. A nice back up if I run out of $ to convert.

Frannie
07-26-11, 20:04
I have the ride from the airport arranged from NG. It's $20.

I know not to come off as a "newbie", which is why I am asking so many questions.

La Pasions:

1500 = HJ 2500 = FS (is this 1/2 hour, also?)

I like the look of their girls. Seem to be leaner than a lot of DR chicas.

I am aware of the prices and differences between La Pasions and the free lancers.

May take you up on the "nice lady" offer. Good service is important since I'm only there for a few days, and leche is limited, LOL.They will suck you dry!

I have a very lean one for you with great personality and large tetas! The girls at la Pasion are mostly rather young, which is why they tend towards being lean. There is no shortage of lean girls. Lean girls are OK, except when you fuck them you hardly have any body contact except a pubic bone digging into you. Still, each to his own.

Regarding the massage and the FS, you still don't get it. It is not the number of minutes on the clock. When you leche, then your time is up. There is no rush and you can take your time, but once the fat lady sings, then it is over.

Regarding ¨good service¨, another US concept. You can get good service, yes, but you can get so much more. Here it is not just about service, but about relationships. It is a 2-way process, and if you get it right, you can get much more than good service. Ideally you want to completely forget that you are paying for it and just enjoy the experience.

The 2 ATMs at Banco Popular behind Bailey´s are working fine now, but you will get a better rate of exchange for cash. The fee for using the ATM is 112 pesos, plus whatever they make on the exchange rate, plus whatever your bank charges you. My own Credit Union has pretty reasonable charges, but clearly the more you change at one time, the more economical it is. At the Banco Popular ATMs, you can change up to 10,000 pesos at one time, but you can have more than one pop as long as you don´t exceed your daily withdrawal allowance at home.

Ath Trainer
07-26-11, 21:13
They will suck you dry!

I have a very lean one for you with great personality and large tetas! The girls at la Pasion are mostly rather young, which is why they tend towards being lean. There is no shortage of lean girls. Lean girls are OK, except when you fuck them you hardly have any body contact except a pubic bone digging into you. Still, each to his own.

Regarding the massage and the FS, you still don't get it. It is not the number of minutes on the clock. When you leche, then your time is up. There is no rush and you can take your time, but once the fat lady sings, then it is over.

Regarding ¨good service¨, another US concept. You can get good service, yes, but you can get so much more. Here it is not just about service, but about relationships. It is a 2-way process, and if you get it right, you can get much more than good service. Ideally you want to completely forget that you are paying for it and just enjoy the experience.

The 2 ATMs at Banco Popular behind Bailey's are working fine now, but you will get a better rate of exchange for cash. The fee for using the ATM is 112 pesos, plus whatever they make on the exchange rate, plus whatever your bank charges you. My own Credit Union has pretty reasonable charges, but clearly the more you change at one time, the more economical it is. At the Banco Popular ATMs, you can change up to 10, 000 pesos at one time, but you can have more than one pop as long as you don't exceed your daily withdrawal allowance at home.So it's per leche, not a time limit along with it. When I go to St. Martin, Curacao, or Tijuana, it's one leche, and you are also on the clock. No leche in 30 minutes (give or take with some) you are done anyway.

Usually I like variety, but on the occasion you find a really good one, I have no problem with repeat visits.

Thanks again!

Lopkx
07-27-11, 04:10
I just wanted to know how good is Terra Linda or New Garden internet in the rooms. Is it wired or wireless? I will need to use Skype for business conference calls and I want to make sure I can actually complete important calls successfully via the internet. Any experience you can share on this topic would be appreciated.

SavePros321
07-27-11, 04:37
I just wanted to know how good is Terra Linda or New Garden internet in the rooms. Is it wired or wireless? I will need to use Skype for business conference calls and I want to make sure I can actually complete important calls successfully via the internet. Any experience you can share on this topic would be appreciated.My experience is only with the new wing at NG. Every time I've stayed there I've never had a problem with the internet and it was a relatively strong signal. You will have to ask them for the WEP in order to use it. I've never tried to use SKYPE at NG.

At Terra Linda, the internet sometimes isn't working, but maybe they've improved on this. Anytime the internet has been down they've always had it back up and running within a few hours. WARNING: Using SKYPE is terrible at TL. I had to go on the balcony and even then it wasn't much better. You will want to request a room that is near the restaurant for the strongest signal (the room I was in was near the restaurant when I tried to use SKYPE). Same thing with calling down to the front desk and asking for the Web Encryption Key.

Both hotels use WiFi.

Bailey's restaurant has WiFi. My wingman would go there to do work when TL's internet is down. Do not know if you have to pay to use it, but it may be a better option when using SKYPE since you are outdoors (sort of).

Jaosousa
07-27-11, 05:14
My experience is only with the new wing at NG. Every time I've stayed there I've never had a problem with the internet and it was a relatively strong signal. You will have to ask them for the WEP in order to use it. I've never tried to use SKYPE at NG.

At Terra Linda, the internet sometimes isn't working, but maybe they've improved on this. Anytime the internet has been down they've always had it back up and running within a few hours. WARNING: Using SKYPE is terrible at TL. I had to go on the balcony and even then it wasn't much better. You will want to request a room that is near the restaurant for the strongest signal (the room I was in was near the restaurant when I tried to use SKYPE). Same thing with calling down to the front desk and asking for the Web Encryption Key.

Both hotels use WiFi.

Bailey's restaurant has WiFi. My wingman would go there to do work when TL's internet is down. Do not know if you have to pay to use it, but it may be a better option when using SKYPE since you are outdoors (sort of).A USB wifi adapter can be attached to a laptop, using a long USB active extension cable, to possibly improve wifi connectivity in a particular hotel room.

Hillbilly69
07-27-11, 10:53
I just wanted to know how good is Terra Linda or New Garden internet in the rooms. Is it wired or wireless? I will need to use Skype for business conference calls and I want to make sure I can actually complete important calls successfully via the internet. Any experience you can share on this topic would be appreciated.Just walk into New Garden resteraunt with your laptop and surf away. I was on my laptop at New Garden every morning even when I wasn't staying there. Wilfred was even sitting next to me encouraging me to be there granted he is no longer there. My Skype phone worked fine off my netbook at New Garden restaruant.

BlackSultan
07-27-11, 11:09
Just walk into New Garden resteraunt with your laptop and surf away. I was on my laptop at New Garden every morning even when I wasn't staying there. Wilfred was even sitting next to me encouraging me to be there granted he is no longer there. My Skype phone worked fine off my netbook at New Garden restaruant.How long has Wilfred been gone from New Garden?

Hillbilly69
07-27-11, 11:24
How long has Wilfred been gone from New Garden?All of this year, he and Lorenzo had falling out after his Christmas trip to New York.

Lopkx
07-27-11, 13:38
Just walk into New Garden resteraunt with your laptop and surf away. I was on my laptop at New Garden every morning even when I wasn't staying there. Wilfred was even sitting next to me encouraging me to be there granted he is no longer there. My Skype phone worked fine off my netbook at New Garden restaruant.I need to do this in a hotel room where it is quiet not a common public area because I am making business calls. That is why I was asking how good is internet signal in rooms when using skype.

Lopkx
07-27-11, 13:44
A USB wifi adapter can be attached to a laptop, using a long USB active extension cable, to possibly improve wifi connectivity in a particular hotel room.Are you referring to something of this nature? http://www.amazon.com/Alfa-AWUS036H-802-11b-Wireless-network/dp/B002WCEWU8/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1311770435&sr=1-3

Jaosousa
07-27-11, 16:02
Are you referring to something of this nature?

http://www.amazon.com/Alfa-AWUS036H-802-11b-Wireless-network/dp/B002WCEWU8/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1311770435&sr=1-3There are various makes and models of USB WIFI adapters. I usually buy from Newegg. Com. Many people on Newegg, write reviews of the electronics they purchased, reading their reviews, you can get idea if a particular product is good.

With a 16 foot USB active extension cable attached to your laptop and attached to the USB wifi adapter, you could position the wifi adapter 16 feet from your laptop, to possibly get a better signal.

A USB active extension cable works better than a normal USB extension cable (usb active extension cable, has some kind of repeater which keeps the signal strong as it travels through the cable). Tripp Lite U026-016 USB2. 0 16-Feet Certified Active Extension Cable, http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-U026-016-Certified-Extension/dp/B0002D6QJO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1311777927&sr=8-1

Cantenna is a good wifi antenna, but kind of big, to travel with, http://www.cantenna.com/

Ath Trainer
07-27-11, 19:04
There are various makes and models of USB WIFI adapters. I usually buy from Newegg. Com. Many people on Newegg, write reviews of the electronics they purchased, reading their reviews, you can get idea if a particular product is good.

With a 16 foot USB active extension cable attached to your laptop and attached to the USB wifi adapter, you could position the wifi adapter 16 feet from your laptop, to possibly get a better signal.

A USB active extension cable works better than a normal USB extension cable (usb active extension cable, has some kind of repeater which keeps the signal strong as it travels through the cable). Tripp Lite U026-016 USB2. 0 16-Feet Certified Active Extension Cable,

http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-U026-016-Certified-Extension/dp/B0002D6QJO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1311777927&sr=8-1

Cantenna is a good wifi antenna, but kind of big, to travel with,

http://www.cantenna.com/There are numerous varieties on Ebay. Prices ranging from $15 to over $100. Check it out.

I just ordered one. Don't think it will arrive in time for my trip. Will use it at home also.

FoxesHunter
07-27-11, 20:26
Hi, I have a curiosity about rating of chicas at Sosua. How many chicas get 7-8 rating vote? In other words, if at Sosua there are 100 girls, how may girls are really beautiful?

Thanks for your suggestions.

Member #4351
07-27-11, 21:01
Please read back on this guy's (FoxesHunter) prior posts before bothering to answer his stupid question. He has been successfully run out of various ISG country threads, but then pops up again somewhere else.

Sidney
07-27-11, 21:45
Hi, I have a curiosity about rating of chicas at Sosua. How many chicas get 7-8 rating vote? In other words, if at Sosua there are 100 girls, how may girls are really beautiful?

Thanks for your suggestions.And 1, 327, 654 in the DR! Maybe you can find some?

Ath Trainer
07-27-11, 23:40
And 1, 327, 654 in the DR! Maybe you can find some?How many of Baskin & Robbins flavors are really good?

Charles Pooter
07-28-11, 00:00
Maybe you can find some?I am sorry Sidney. I have to dispute your total. It was 314 but Adriana was squashed by a Metro Bus last week and had to be downgraded to a 4 so there are only 313 beautiful girls in Sosúa now.

Llttf
07-28-11, 00:18
Hi, I have a curiosity about rating of chicas at Sosua. How many chicas get 7-8 rating vote? In other words, if at Sosua there are 100 girls, how may girls are really beautiful?

Thanks for your suggestions.35 during the week but goes up to 42 on Fridays and saturdays. It has been known to drop to 21. 5 on Sundays.

Manizales911
07-28-11, 01:15
Hi, I have a curiosity about rating of chicas at Sosua. How many chicas get 7-8 rating vote? In other words, if at Sosua there are 100 girls, how may girls are really beautiful?

Thanks for your suggestions.Only four and they are all on full time retainer by yours truly Manizales911!

DeepMmpactt
07-28-11, 03:53
Hi, I have a curiosity about rating of chicas at Sosua. How many chicas get 7-8 rating vote? In other words, if at Sosua there are 100 girls, how may girls are really beautiful?

Thanks for your suggestions.Well I start with 100 putas. 612 are beautiful 71. 76 are.

On crack. 69 are hot. 3 & a half are gorgeous! Duh!

What was the question again? My math is a little suspect.

How about the great wimpy? Offer the 100 putas, to.

Pay them on Tuesday for some ummmmmm today!

Makes no sense like this dumb ass.

Lopkx
07-28-11, 03:56
There are numerous varieties on Ebay. Prices ranging from $15 to over $100. Check it out.

I just ordered one. Don't think it will arrive in time for my trip. Will use it at home also.Thanks for the feedback, will book at NG.

Mr Gogo
07-28-11, 05:34
Just left Classicos and the ratio was 10 to 1. Went back to the hotel and was ambushed by two chicas who rubbed my ass and dick all the way to the hotel. Wasnt in the mood for some bullshit so passed. Nice little breeze flowing through Sosua right now. Also less police and girls seem happier. Is it the old Sosua? No, but better than my March trip. Look for more info in the Gogo forum.

MiamiHeatLuver
07-28-11, 06:16
Just left Classicos and the ratio was 10 to 1. Went back to the hotel and was ambushed by two chicas who rubbed my ass and dick all the way to the hotel. Wasnt in the mood for some bullshit so passed. Nice little breeze flowing through Sosua right now. Also less police and girls seem happier. Is it the old Sosua? No, but better than my March trip. Look for more info in the Gogo forum.Mr G, Is it true LOUS SHARK BAR CLOSED? Happened to him or his spot? He's some character but the only place I could get a REAL USA Hebrew National Hot Dog, Ravioli and meat sauce with garlic bread (yes you paid for it though) and watch sports with some expats.

GreenThumb
07-28-11, 08:54
I am in the process of planning a trip to Sousa and I came across this website. This is my first post but I have read every post on this thread and many others. Great stuff here! I am planning this trip as a gift to a very good buddy who is a bit down in the dumps due to a split with a long time GF. Some history were both upper 40's and retired. So we must be somewhat frugal. We were both in the Armed Services and we have traveled extensively. I just found out that I am a monger. I guess this title I'd due to my unexplainable urge to bang foreign pussy.

I have been to the DR about 15 times over the last 10 years but I have never been to Sosua. All of my ex wives have been to Punta Cana and I have spent some time whoring around Higuey, Bavareo, and Santo Domingo. My friend has never been to the dr and is been out of the mongering game for many years. Believe it or not finding p4p has always been easy for me everywhere I go in the dr. Last month spent four nights in Punta cana and there were about 20 hotties everynight in the resorts disco, club Mangu. I can't really believe that they will change Sosua with this latex crackdown I have been reading about. So I'm not going to let the doomsdayers scare me away.

I am planning on coming down from November 12th thru 19th. Originally was going to stay at the NG but now am thinking about two rooms at the Sousa bay beach club. After reading many posts it sounds like the NG might be a little noisy for us plus I prefer to be on the ocean and the all inclusive price is right. They tell me they have a building at sosua Bay that is guest friendly. I have been emailing Leon at Sosua bay and he has been prompt in his replys. I had e mailed the NG three times and they never replied?

Honestly after reading all the info on this site I really don't have many questions. THANK YOU! My biggest concern is the distance from the Sosua Bay to the action. When I'm in Punta Cana I stay at a AI that isn't chica friendly so I use a Cabana. Sort of like that setup as I don't have to worry so much about getting ripped off! And the hoes can't bother me when I want privacy.

Is it going to be a hassle finding chicas in the daytime that will go back to our resort? Can you hang out at the NG bar if your not a guest? Does the NG charge a salida fee to take a girl with you? Would I be better off getting a room for the week at someplace like the NG for daytime quickies and hand select TLN chicas go go back go the resort at night. I don't mind spending the extra money if it simplifies things. I do want my buddy to have a ball on this trip.

Again thank you to all who contribute here you have really helped me out in planning this trip. If anyone from the forum will be there when we are I'd be happy to buy you a beer.

We are going to stay for one week November 12 thru 19th.

Mr Gogo
07-28-11, 11:14
Mr G, Is it true LOUS SHARK BAR CLOSED? Happened to him or his spot? He's some character but the only place I could get a REAL USA Hebrew National Hot Dog, Ravioli and meat sauce with garlic bread (yes you paid for it though) and watch sports with some expats.The four times I walked by Sharks bar last night it was closed. Latinos was empty except me and BBL playing pool with some Dominicans. El flow had an average crowd, and Rumba was doing good. Fred of Cuba libre was open. Four Roses has closed its back night club. BBl and I got a sandwhich from Ollies. Fantasy the sex shop was closed. Classicos is now 200 pesos to get in. Banged a deaf mute girl I pulled from Classicos. I just wanted to see what that was about. Took a little while to get used to her unusual sounds but her energy was good. And this is the key, more girls confidently walking around during the day.

SavePros321
07-28-11, 12:17
Just left Classicos and the ratio was 10 to 1. Went back to the hotel and was ambushed by two chicas who rubbed my ass and dick all the way to the hotel. Wasnt in the mood for some bullshit so passed. Nice little breeze flowing through Sosua right now. Also less police and girls seem happier. Is it the old Sosua? No, but better than my March trip. Look for more info in the Gogo forum.Thanks for the update! I won't be paroled from sex prison for at least another few months, but overall glad to hear Sosua is firing on all cylinders. See if you can talk Armando into converting Merengue Bar back into an open-air bar again, lol.

Llttf
07-28-11, 13:49
Thanks for the update! I won't be paroled from sex prison for at least another few months, but overall glad to hear Sosua is firing on all cylinders. See if you can talk Armando into converting Merengue Bar back into an open-air bar again, lol.It was never closed in, only Sosua Life complied with the rule.

Oakie
07-28-11, 19:39
Thanks for that info. I'm going to be mindful of that next time. I've never exchanged large amounts at his spot though. My wingman was the one to point the place out to me so I'll pass the info on to him as well. Just figured it was always a better alternative to the guy that stands across from TL yelling "Change!", lol.We always use Sergio who waves his bundle on the side street outside the Happy Bar.

He's always been there and has his regular customers. A good rate and even better if you can trust your chica to do the business.

DeepMmpactt
07-28-11, 19:44
Please read back on this guy's (FoxesHunter) prior posts before bothering to answer his stupid question. He has been successfully run out of various ISG country threads, but then pops up again somewhere else.This is ironic, I was praising the moderator I think his name was David.

I was being sarcastic, but my point was, if this guy David I think his title,

Was moderator, saw the need to chime in concerning foxhunters post.

(refer to quote above) and how dumb his questions were, and how.

Foxhunter was successfully run out of other forums, How can I be deemed.

Antagonistic when I was simply praising the moderator for chimimg in.

Plus I got 1 point (which I don't understand). I guess if you get to many.

Points your are punished I guess. Well anyway heading to Sosua in Sept,

Will take many pictures of the new Sosua, proving visually, its the best thing.

Going, and Its Alive and Well, just shook up a bit.

Christopher999
07-28-11, 22:29
Hello all,

I plan to go one one week to sosua soon, I have been there years ago :

- Is the hotel marina beach still open and closed to the action? Still impossible to bring girl in room?

- I went to this place: http://passions-sosua.com, is it still good, before it was! , I remember a girl which name was Erika! Always busy this girl.

It looks like completly different inside, hope the atmosphere is stll good in this club!

Will be there from 17th to 24th, join me.

Thanks guys in advance for answering these 2 points

Frannie
07-28-11, 23:42
Naturally everyone here in Sosua is on the edge of their seats over the USA debt debacle, but a few hardy penis management technicians are still managing to put these worries aside and focus on their careers one thousand pesos at a time.

Today I didn't go out as I have a slight cold, but that did not stop 5 chicas. 2 pairs, and one solo operator from beating a path to my door. It was a case of first come first served, so there was some disappointment for late arrivals.

I felt bad in particular for one girl, Selena, who said she owed someone 1000 pesos and was hoping to pick up that sum quickly. She is a really beautiful girl of pinup model quality, is very intelligent, and has a delightful personality. You definitely want to walk into a restaurant with her on your arm and watch male heads swiveling.

I am not in the habit of pimping girls, but if there is any one currently in Sosua who wants to help her with her financial goals, I do have her phone number and would release it on request by private message. Please don't ask if you aren't currently in the country. She speaks Spanish and French.

SavePros321
07-29-11, 03:35
I am in the process of planning a trip to Sousa and I came across this website. This is my first post but I have read every post on this thread and many others.First of all, great start! Reading is an art form that is becoming rare among many first time posters :)


I am planning on coming down from November 12th thru 19th. Originally was going to stay at the NG but now am thinking about two rooms at the Sousa bay beach club. After reading many posts it sounds like the NG might be a little noisy for us plus I prefer to be on the ocean and the all inclusive price is right. They tell me they have a building at sosua Bay that is guest friendly. I have been emailing Leon at Sosua bay and he has been prompt in his replys. I had e mailed the NG three times and they never replied?I think the Sosua Bay Beach Club side is the one you want, as it is advertised on their website as "Adults Only." I've never stayed at this hotel, and I sure don't know what the hell is up with an extra charge to rent a safe:

http://www.sosuabayresort.com/sosua-bay-beach-club.html

Terra Linda is also a very good hotel, very quiet compared to NG, and is 100% chica friendly. It is also a stones-throw away from the main action (the Pedro Clisante) and all the bars and clubs are a 3-5 minute walk from here; much more closer than Sosua Bay. The Single Queen-sized room for $69 per night is all you would need. Tell your wingman to get his own damn room, LOL:

http://www.terralindaresort.com/en/index.html


My biggest concern is the distance from the Sosua Bay to the action. Is it going to be a hassle finding chicas in the daytime that will go back to our resort? It might be better to tell your chica that you will be taking a motoconcho back to Sosua bay (50 pesos). You could just as well walk there, but it gets pretty effing hot in Sosua and the both of you would more than likely melt before you reach your room. My wingman and I once walked over to Sosua Bay to check out their rooms, but we ended up taking motoconchos back to Terra Linda.

If it is night time it would not be uncommon for a chica to ask you for 50 pesos for a motoconcho if you are not escorting her back to the Pedro Clisante upon her leaving.


Can you hang out at the NG bar if your not a guest? Does the NG charge a salida fee to take a girl with you? Would I be better off getting a room for the week at someplace like the NG for daytime quickies and hand select TLN chicas go go back go the resort at night. I don't mind spending the extra money if it simplifies things. I do want my buddy to have a ball on this trip.Yes, no, and no. You can pop in and out of NG freely. There is no fee for a chica to leave with you as they do not work for the hotel. Chicas come and go from NG all day on their own will. Their presence there is dependent on how many gringos are lounging around the pool. Between 3-6pm is peak time (since most mongers are arriving from the airport and are checking into the hotel around this time) , but after that they chicas move the party to the Pedro Clisante and begin to congregate around El Flow, Latino's, and Mergengue Bar. Every one there is mostly waiting for the "Big Show", which is when Classico's opens (upstairs above Merengue Bar).

There is no need to get an extra room. I don't know about Sosua Bay, but Terra Linda does not care how many chicas you bring in and out of your room during the day so long as you only bring them one at a time. NG is also about a 3 minute walk from Terra Linda. You can find a chica there and take her back to your room at Terra Linda. If going back to Sosua Bay you would most likely want to take a motochoncho.

Jaosousa
07-29-11, 04:33
It might be better to tell your chica that you will be taking a motoconcho back to Sosua bay (50 pesos). You could just as well walk there, but it gets pretty effing hot in Sosua and the both of you would more than likely melt before you reach your room. My wingman and I once walked over to Sosua Bay to check out their rooms, but we ended up taking motoconchos back to Terra Linda.

If it is night time it would not be uncommon for a chica to ask you for 50 pesos for a motoconcho if you are not escorting her back to the Pedro Clisante upon her leaving.I am no expert on Motoconcho prices, but I have asked Dominican chicas what they pay and most have told me they pay. 20-25 pesos. From Classicos to Sosua Bay Hotel, would be a 1-2 minute ride on a motoconcho, or a 5 minute or less walk.

From what I read in the past, the adults only part of Sosua Bay Hotel (chica friendly part) , may not be All Inclusive.

GreenThumb
07-29-11, 11:00
I am no expert on Motoconcho prices, but I have asked Dominican chicas what they pay and most have told me they pay. 20-25 pesos. From Classicos to Sosua Bay Hotel, would be a 1-2 minute ride on a motoconcho, or a 5 minute or less walk.

From what I read in the past, the adults only part of Sosua Bay Hotel (chica friendly part) , may not be All Inclusive.They charged more to upgrade to the all inclusive plan from the breakfast only deal. Said they would allow one guest per room and the desk would hold her I'd until she leaves. Sounds like it's just a short motoconcho ride so I'm just going to reserve us each a room at the Sosua Bay.

GreenThumb
07-29-11, 11:16
Thanks for all of the help. A little off topic but does anyone fish in the surf on sosua beach. How a out getting a local fisherman to take us out. Anybody ever tried this? I have hired local fishermen in Punta Cana for a great price and had a blast doing it.

SavePros321
07-29-11, 15:25
I am no expert on Motoconcho prices, but I have asked Dominican chicas what they pay and most have told me they pay. 20-25 pesos. From Classicos to Sosua Bay Hotel, would be a 1-2 minute ride on a motoconcho, or a 5 minute or less walk.

If it takes 3-5 minutes to walk to Classicos from Terra Linda then it is at least an 8+ minute walk from Sosua Bay to Classicos, especially if you include the alley you have to walk out of before you even get to the main drag. It's at least 3 to 4 minutes just to walk from Sosua Bay to Playa Supermarcado, which is across the street before where you even begin your trek up to Classicos. You are probably already 6 to 7 minutes into your walk by the time you cross in front of Tipico Alberto's.

And it's probably safe to say that foreigners are not going to get away with handing a motoconchista 20-25 pesos :)

Frannie
07-29-11, 15:29
My bad. I was basing this on Merengue Bar being the halfway point. If it takes 3-5 minutes to walk to Merengue from Terra Linda then it is at least an 8+ minute walk from Sosua Bay to Merengue.

And it's probably safe to say that foreigners are not going to get away with handing a motoconchista 20-25 pesos.From Merengue Bar to Sosua Bay and Terra Linda are opposite directions!

Jaosousa
07-29-11, 15:39
My bad. I was basing this on Merengue Bar being the halfway point. If it takes 3-5 minutes to walk to Merengue from Terra Linda then it is at least an 8+ minute walk from Sosua Bay to Merengue.

And it's probably safe to say that foreigners are not going to get away with handing a motoconchista 20-25 pesos.Merengue Bar from what I remember is the bar under Classicos. Classicos to Sosua Bay Hotel is about 3 blocks. A motorcycle driving directly from the front of classicos to the entrance of Sosua Bay Hotel maybe could take one minute. To pay the motorcycle driver over $1US Dollar for one minute of work, works out to about a salary of $60US Dollars per hour for a motorcycle driver.

Pay what you want, if you want to pay double or more, of what the locals pay, that is your option.

Honestly, I would rather walk the three blocks from Classicos to the Sosua Bay Hotel, than jump on a 125cc motorcycle with a Dominican guy.

SavePros321
07-29-11, 15:48
From Merengue Bar to Sosua Bay and Terra Linda are opposite directions!Yep, me and my wingman actually walked from Terra Linda to Sosua Bay the long way going past New Garden, Bailey's and Playa Supermarcado, which is why we both decided it would be better to take motoconchos back to TL, lol.

I sometimes go the long way around from Terra Linda to Merengue Bar when I am trying to avoid (my) stalkers hanging out at El Flow.

SavePros321
07-29-11, 22:24
Honestly, I would rather walk the three blocks from Classicos to the Sosua Bay Hotel, than jump on a 125cc motorcycle with a Dominican guy.It's not that bad. I walk everywhere in Sosua all the time. I'm never in a rush while there and walking is also a good way to pass time, stretch your legs, and mix it up with chicas as you pass one another on the street (a good reason to keep your Sosua cell phone on you to collect phone numbers). In fact, I had never used a moto until early last year. It gets crazy-hot in Sosua and I'm a person that sweats easily, but that's never stopped me from walking around during the day. I just grab a towel from my room and go.

BUT, I like to use the motos when I am being lazy. I've walked all the way to Playa Supermarcado to buy stuff for the room, but sometimes take a moto back to Terra Linda or New Garden, especially if I've bought a lot of stuff (the store next to Rocky's doesn't have a large selection of stuff like Playa Supermarcado does). I've walked to and from the intersection on the way to La Passions where all the ATM machines are, but sometimes I walk from TL to the motoconcho stand in front of El Flow and just pay to have them take me to the ATMs and back to the hotel. A few times I've called a chica over to meet me at my hotel and realized that I need to get some more pesos from the ATM, so I'd take a moto if I thought that by walking I would not make it back to the hotel before she arrived. Gives me enough time to get back and shower because of the one drawback from taking a moto; smelling like gasolina.

If you've ever walked from New Garden to the (hustle) beach in Sosua, you're gonna want to take a moto back to NG or wish you did, lol. If anything it keeps you from getting lock-jaw from (politely) repeating "no gracias" to all the vendors set up in that long alleyway/road that curves around on the way to and from beach entrance.

Member #4351
07-29-11, 23:55
GreenThumb, I originally reserved a room at the Sosua Bay Club, but was put off by the extra charges. It wasn't the money, it was the attitude. I cancelled my reservation and stayed at Terra Linda as I also had no desire to stay at a loud party place like NG. Terra Linda was perfect. I'm not into having more than one chica at a time so no problems whatsoever.

Frannie
07-30-11, 00:20
Yesterday a couple of Haitian girls came by to try to tempt me with their wares, and in discussion I asked them why they didn't get guys from the disco at night instead of bothering me with their nonsense. One of them, Judy, a real sweetie, tells me that there just aren't any men available. I said that it seemed to me that there were plenty, but they said they didn't want to go with Americanos. Since I hold a US passport, I demanded to know the meaning of this outrageous loss of service attack, and she told me that most of them want anal sex, and that she didn't go for that, and that she wanted to fuck with her pussy (which is a good one and fit for purpose) not her ass, which is for caca.

Well, I didn't pay too much attention to this. Chicas tell you what they want you to hear. But today I had a few Dominican ladies up in my apartment for a few hours social interaction and I asked them about this, and one said she didn't know, but two of them actually confirmed this and one said ¨we are scared to go with these Americano guys because often they want anal sex and they can be very aggressive about it, and they don't tell us in the disco that they want anal sex, so we don't want to go to the hotel room with them¨.

I wondered if this is what could be behind reports of requests for what seems to be unreasonably large sums of money-an attempt to put off the pursuer on to another girl.

Naturally I told these girls not to stereotype Americanos because of a few bad apples, but of course, it is their job.

I'm sure it is not ISG guys they are talking about, but guys, when you escape sex prison USA, make sure you don't bring prison behavior with you, and if anal sex is what you want, for goodness sake be upfront about it and negotiate it before you get to the room. You will find some girls who are willing to accomodate your desires, and then you will both be happy and you can bugger away to your heart's desire without unpleasant scenes.

SavePros321
07-30-11, 01:01
Yesterday a couple of Haitian girls came by to try to tempt me with their wares, and in discussion I asked them why they didn't get guys from the disco at night instead of bothering me with their nonsense. One of them, Judy, a real sweetie, tells me that there just aren't any men available. I said that it seemed to me that there were plenty, but they said they didn't want to go with Americanos. Since I hold a US passport, I demanded to know the meaning of this outrageous loss of service attack, and she told me that most of them want anal sex, and that she didn't go for that, and that she wanted to fuck with her pussy (which is a good one and fit for purpose) not her ass, which is for caca.

Well, I didn't pay too much attention to this. Chicas tell you what they want you to hear. But today I had a few Dominican ladies up in my apartment for a few hours social interaction and I asked them about this, and one said she didn't know, but two of them actually confirmed this and one said ¨we are scared to go with these Americano guys because often they want anal sex and they can be very aggressive about it, and they don't tell us in the disco that they want anal sex, so we don't want to go to the hotel room with them¨.

I'm sure it is not ISG guys they are talking about, but guys, when you escape sex prison USA, make sure you don't bring prison behavior with you, and if anal sex is what you want, for goodness sake be upfront about it and negotiate it before you get to the room. You will find some girls who are willing to accomodate your desires, and then you will both be happy and you can bugger away to your heart's desire without unpleasant scenes.Hmm, this doesn't seem to mesh with what Mr. Gogo says is currently going on down there:


After saying I wasnt going to post, sorry but I have to. Savepros I've been having a ball. Thinking about making my trip a few more days. Maybe because I over did it my first day, but everything is going great. Not trying to interfere with BBLs reporting, but I love Sosua again. Damn! I want to write a report, but its going to have to wait till the fun is over. Just a quick overview. Fucking a deaf mute, head in the bathroom while my girlfriends sister is being distacted by BBl, picking up random chicas on the street. Hell, I haven't even gotten around to fucking my regulars yet. I've got pics, reports, and videos but don't have time to post, aint that a *****. Yall got to wait till this shit slow down.Last I know of, Mr. Gogo is very Americano, LOL.

Maybe your chicas are just full of shit amigo (which is probably why they don't want anal) ;)

How can they tell the difference between an ISG and non-ISG guy?

And it's kinda hard to believe that the Domincano isn't asking for the culo (hole); or the German, or the Italiano...

Mr Gogo
07-30-11, 01:49
thursday it rained hard from 9pm till about 11pm. classicos had more dudes about 4 (girls) to 1. had a ball anyway. now pan to friday. at osheays in cabarete, friday 6pm and no people at all there. went to passions at 7pm and they had 30 girls but guys werent buying. its now after 8pm and the streets are quiet and not many girls walking around. basically the friday is slow now compared to thursday. its like people are clearing out for the weekend boys.

after reading frannies report i'm very sure there are some ex brazil guys who want anal and rough sex. but i'm here with 4 ex brazil guys who haven't spoken of wanting anal once. but they do like "power sex", but its not forced. haitianas like strong sex, so for them to now be complaining about it seems strange. i've tried before having "nice" sex with haitian girls only to have them say"come on". does anyone really believe that the haitian dudes arent fucking the shit out of these girls? everyone knows that the haitianas mostly like white european guys, so it makes sense to say americanos are rough, want anal sex, and don't want americanos money to make the euro guys feel privileged. maybe they thought frannie was euro. most americanos go to the dr to fuck dominicanas, only a few want haitian girls. as for the domincanas complaining, i really don't think guys are flying down there to catch a [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) charge. maybe passionate sex is out as sosua has changed, and sport fucking is the new thing.

Frannie
07-30-11, 03:16
Hmm, this doesn't seem to mesh with what Mr. Gogo says is currently going on down there:

Last I know of, Mr. Gogo is very Americano, LOL.

Maybe your chicas are just full of shit amigo (which is probably why they don't want anal).

How can they tell the difference between an ISG and non-ISG guy?

And it's kinda hard to believe that the Domincano isn't asking for the culo (hole) ; or the German, or the Italiano.No, of course they can't tell the difference. Anyway, I am just reporting what they said for what it is worth, because it may be of interest as this is an English language board. If just one chica had said it, I would not pay much attention, but it was three chicas within 24 hours. I don't know anything about the sexual proclivities of Dominican guys, or Germans, or Italians and the chicas didn't mention them. And as I said, the problem the chicas described was not so much the guys asking for anal, but ambushing the girls and being very aggressive when it was not contracted for. She used the words ¨muy agresivos'.

Obviously this doesn't mean that us guys from the US can't get laid, but I just thought it was an interesting nugget of information.

GreenThumb
07-30-11, 08:42
GreenThumb, I originally reserved a room at the Sosua Bay Club, but was put off by the extra charges. It wasn't the money, it was the attitude. I cancelled my reservation and stayed at Terra Linda as I also had no desire to stay at a loud party place like NG. Terra Linda was perfect. I'm not into having more than one chica at a time so no problems whatsoever.Hmmm, what extra charges are you talking about? Only extra mentioned to me was for the safe. We did get the all inclusive plan so we are going to have to wear the damn bracelets.

Manizales911
07-30-11, 13:21
Thanks for all of the help. A little off topic but does anyone fish in the surf on sosua beach. How a out getting a local fisherman to take us out. Anybody ever tried this? I have hired local fishermen in Punta Cana for a great price and had a blast doing it.I am an avid fisherman and from what I have been told the waters around Sosua are fished out. You will get someone to take you out but they are just looking to take your money. If you go waaay back in this forum there is a post from a guy that got taken by a aguy on the beach selling fishing trips. Personally I wouldn't bother. Fish for pussy, isn't that what you are going there for.

Mr Gogo
07-30-11, 13:29
No, of course they can't tell the difference. Anyway, I am just reporting what they said for what it is worth, because it may be of interest as this is an English language board. If just one chica had said it, I would not pay much attention, but it was three chicas within 24 hours. I don't know anything about the sexual proclivities of Dominican guys, or Germans, or Italians and the chicas didn't mention them. And as I said, the problem the chicas described was not so much the guys asking for anal, but ambushing the girls and being very aggressive when it was not contracted for. She used the words ¨muy agresivos'.

Obviously this doesn't mean that us guys from the US can't get laid, but I just thought it was an interesting nugget of information.As I write this a beautiful girl from Santiago is laying next to me in bed watching music videos. We had so much fun last night that I was going to take her on a Puerto Plata date today, but she just fucked up and sadly to say it kind of made me think. She is watching videos now with no idea of what she just said. I asked if she liked Sosua, she said"yes". I then asked what she liked? The beach, the guys, Classicos? She said "noo Classicos too many Americanos negro" and they are "feo". Damn what am I? I'm thinking they have us stereo typed according to darkness. Because I'm light skinned I'm not Americano negro. Maybe growing up in Santiago, maybe they hadn't had exposure to AA. It just made me think. Or maybe Frannie was correct that some women are maybe having bad experiences with Americanos.

Frannie
07-30-11, 14:35
After reading Frannies report I'm very sure there are some ex Brazil guys who want anal and rough sex. But I'm here with 4 ex Brazil guys who haven't spoken of wanting anal once. But they do like "power sex", but its not forced. Haitianas like strong sex, so for them to now be complaining about it seems strange. I've tried before having "nice" sex with Haitian girls only to have them say"Come on". Does anyone really believe that the Haitian dudes arent fucking the shit out of these girls? Everyone knows that the Haitianas mostly like white European guys, so it makes sense to say Americanos are rough, want anal sex, and don't want Americanos money to make the Euro guys feel privileged.Maybe so, anyway it might be useful in negotiating with girls to know what their fears and anxieties might be. And you can conduct your own research among the ladies about what they like and don't like.

I really don't know whether the Haitian guys are ¨fucking the shit¨ out of these girls or not. They always deny that they have boyfriends, but of course that doesn't mean it is true. Generally they seem to avoid pregnancy, which perhaps suggests that they don't, but who really knows? All in all I am agnostic on that question, and it may vary from girl to girl anyway.

¨Come on¨could just mean they want to get it over with.

Mr Gogo
07-30-11, 15:23
Maybe so, anyway it might be useful in negotiating with girls to know what their fears and anxieties might be. And you can conduct your own research among the ladies about what they like and don't like.

I really don't know whether the Haitian guys are ¨fucking the shit¨ out of these girls or not. They always deny that they have boyfriends, but of course that doesn't mean it is true. Generally they seem to avoid pregnancy, which perhaps suggests that they don't, but who really knows? All in all I am agnostic on that question, and it may vary from girl to girl anyway.

¨Come on¨could just mean they want to get it over with.Could it also be that before Sosua had a lot of repeat costumers, who were interested in learning the language and culture? And therefore could explain their desires. Whereas now there is a new element, who can barely say "deniro" in Spanish let alone "ass". They want to go to the next fuck fest not have girls randomly just stop by to gossip. You and I are becoming extinct in Sosua, Americanos who want to do more than just to fuck.

Lets not give the girls a pass here either. I never let the Santiago girl who I had last night know that her comment confused me. She still thinks we have our Puerto Plata date for 2pm. As I walked her out I asked what she had planned for the night? I'm thinking she would lock into guaranteed money, but no. Her reply was"I'm going back to Lationos'. It seems that some girls are only expecting sex for money that night. One girl standing around Latinos told me 100us, I backed away slowly and went with the Santiago girl for 2000p TLN.

Frannie
07-30-11, 16:50
One girl standing around Latinos told me 100us, I backed away slowly and went with the Santiago girl for 2000p TLN.Glad I had a bottle of NTG handy when I read that, as it gave me a nasty attack of chest pain, and I thought I was a goner for a moment. Fortunately a Haitiana picked me off the floor and gave me CPR.

It is the old bad cop good cop routine. Bad cop chica threatens you with ticket for $100 and then good cop chica says beng a tu mommie por solo dos mil pesesitos mi amor por todo, singar, chupa, masaje, lo que tu quieres mi amorcito.

Member #4351
07-30-11, 17:36
GreenThumb, I don't remember all the details, but as I said it was attitude more than anything else. I got the feeling I was going to be nickle and dimed there and that they preferred a non-monger clientele. But stay there and let us know how things go. I can't remember any forum members really giving the place a thumbs up, but maybe I missed some posts.

Manizales911
07-30-11, 18:43
Could it also be that before Sosua had a lot of repeat costumers, who were interested in learning the language and culture? And therefore could explain their desires. Whereas now there is a new element, who can barely say "deniro" in Spanish let alone "ass". They want to go to the next fuck fest not have girls randomly just stop by to gossip. You and I are becoming extinct in Sosua, Americanos who want to do more than just to fuck.

Lets not give the girls a pass here either. I never let the Santiago girl who I had last night know that her comment confused me. She still thinks we have our Puerto Plata date for 2pm. As I walked her out I asked what she had planned for the night? I'm thinking she would lock into guaranteed money, but no. Her reply was"I'm going back to Lationos'. It seems that some girls are only expecting sex for money that night. One girl standing around Latinos told me 100us, I backed away slowly and went with the Santiago girl for 2000p TLN.I think there is something in the water down there lately. I just had to tell a four year "regular" of mine to hit the bricks because on my last trip two weeks ago she tried to double her fee. Over the course of that time I probably spent thirty or forty nights with this chica, always paying her 3000 COP for 24 hours of no holds barred service, a true gem. I spent four days with her on this past trip and she tried to tell me she wanted vente mil pesos. I laughed in her face and gave her twelve thousand and erased all her contact info from my phone while she watched. Fuck that shit, I pay my girls well if they treat me right but I'm no sucker. If every guy did what you did to that girl in Latino's she eventually would wake the hell up and realize $100US is ridiculous. The problem is she will get some idiot to pay it.

Berthold
07-30-11, 23:02
GreenThumb, I originally reserved a room at the Sosua Bay Club, but was put off by the extra charges. It wasn't the money, it was the attitude. I cancelled my reservation and stayed at Terra Linda as I also had no desire to stay at a loud party place like NG. Terra Linda was perfect. I'm not into having more than one chica at a time so no problems whatsoever.I stayed a couple of days at the Casa Cayena hotel which is very good. No problems to bring back girls, they have to leave their cedula at the front desk.

Very decent food, daily fresh towel, good air condition, free parking in front of the hotel and the bar restaurant area has wifi as well.

I highly recommend this hotel

Orgasmico
07-30-11, 23:15
She said "noo Classicos too many Americanos negro" and they are "feo". Damn what am I? I'm thinking they have us stereo typed according to darkness. Because I'm light skinned I'm not Americano negro.That's pretty common, IMO. I remember one time in SDQ I was watching TV with a chica and a news story came on about JLO and P Diddy (this was years ago) and the chica went off about how ugly P Diddy is and how could a Latina like JLO go with an such an ugly American negro, but my take away was that she felt that about American Negros in general. Obviously, not all chicas in the DR think this way, but there are many that do.

Orgasmico
07-30-11, 23:22
One girl standing around Latinos told me 100us, I backed away slowly and went with the Santiago girl for 2000p TLN.Even though there are available druggies and Haitians in Sosua, I could see a day when cien becomes the norm for "A list" chicas like in other mongering destinations. The current trajectory seems to be trending in that direction. The reasons have been laid out by you and others in this thread. It will be interesting to see how the next five years plays out.

MiamiHeatLuver
07-31-11, 00:03
Even though there are available druggies and Haitians in Sosua, I could see a day when cien becomes the norm for "A list" chicas like in other mongering destinations. The current trajectory seems to be trending in that direction. The reasons have been laid out by you and others in this thread. It will be interesting to see how the next five years plays out.3500+ for a puta in Sosua? I can't see it happening anytime soon (besides weekend warriors, some newbies or guys who want to make it "rain") I know me and my boys would never pay that for tln. In the mean time ill be happy with my 1500-2000 tln's. We are planning out usual SuperBowl weekend trip. I tell the ole lady that ill be away on business.

Frannie
07-31-11, 01:36
Classicos? She said "noo Classicos too many Americanos negro" and they are "feo". Damn what am I? I'm thinking they have us stereo typed according to darkness. Because I'm light skinned I'm not Americano negro. Maybe growing up in Santiago, maybe they hadn't had exposure to AA. It just made me think. Or maybe Frannie was correct that some women are maybe having bad experiences with Americanos.Sounds like you have passed the gringo test and are now regarded as an honorary Dominicano.

Of course negro is the Spanish word for black and black in the US means anyone of partial African descent regardless of skin tone. Dominicans struggle to find politically correct terms and adress each other as ¨morena' (brownie) or 'gordo' (fatso) and several other terms descriptive of skin color without a second thought. My Dominican wife (morena) saw a mentally ill African American man who looks like a hobo and wanders around our neighborhood in the US and described him as a ¨Haitiano¨ as that was the best description she could come up with from her limited experience.

Orgasmico
07-31-11, 02:19
In the mean time ill be happy with my 1500-2000 tln's.I hope you're right and I'm wrong.

Orgasmico
07-31-11, 02:36
Caribbean latinos use negro, negra, negrita, etc. As terms of endearment and not necessarily color based.

But, when you hear phrases like "Americanos negro", negro americano, or Puerto Ricans use the term "cocolo" they are referring to african americans. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cocolo

Charles Pooter
07-31-11, 12:47
Caribbean latinos use negro, negra, negrita, etc. As terms of endearment and not necessarily color based.

But, when you hear phrases like "Americanos negro", negro americano, or Puerto Ricans use the term "cocolo" they are referring to african americans.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cocoloYou have just quoted from the world's dumbest dictionary. Definitions include:

"It is not a spanish word for nigger" and "The Spanish word for Nigger". Very helpful!

Charles Pooter
07-31-11, 12:54
My Dominican wife (morena) saw a mentally ill African American man who looks like a hobo and wanders around our neighborhood in the US and described him as a ¨Haitiano¨ as that was the best description she could come up with from her limited experience.It's not just the Dominicans. My partner is Haitian. Whenever we are watching American films with (dark) black actors she claims they are all Haitians. I have tried to explain to her that only a relatively small minority of African Americans have any Haitian origins but they all remain "Haitians" to her.

I wonder if Frannie's wife would have still called the guy "haitiano" had he not been mentally ill?

Charles Pooter
07-31-11, 13:10
Even though there are available druggies and Haitians in Sosua, I could see a day when cien becomes the norm for "A list" chicas like in other mongering destinations. The current trajectory seems to be trending in that direction. The reasons have been laid out by you and others in this thread. It will be interesting to see how the next five years plays out.We all have different ideas of what are beautiful or attractive or sexy putas. So what makes a puta "A-list"? The answer is the monger telling himself she is "A-list" in his own mind. Having convinced himself she is "A-list" he can now justify to himself paying US$100 like a mug.

I'm with MiamiHeatLuver. I'll carry on considering them all as "B-list" and paying 1500 pesos.

It may be different in Brazil and parts of S. E. Asia because the economies and standards of living of some of those countries are actually improving so the girls have other options, but the Dominican economy is going nowhere within the next decade so if any chica prices herself out of the market for sensible mongers there will be five new ones ready to step into her stillettos. No need to pay pendejo prices.

Orgasmico
07-31-11, 14:17
Definitions include:

"It is not a spanish word for nigger" and "The Spanish word for Nigger". Very helpful!It can mean either, depending on the user. I used the first source that came up with an English definition but this particular word is more of a slang. I would say, based on my experience, that it tends to mean the "N word" which is a reference to black Americans by Nuyoricans.

Frannie
07-31-11, 14:28
But I'm here with 4 ex Brazil guys who haven't spoken of wanting anal once. But they do like "power sex", but its not forced. Haitianas like strong sex, so for them to now be complaining about it seems strange.Another plausible explanation could be that some guys are overdoing the sex, then taking excess Viagra to compensate, and then finding that when they combine that with the effects of alcohol and condoms, they have difficulty reaching a climax, so sex then becomes a rather futile marathon in search of the final leche, which the girl may find uncomfortable and which may leave her sore or internally bruised. Sex is an activity in which two people have to quickly discover how to pleasure each other and any activity that isn't for that end may become tiresome.

Now that we have had the Internet for about 15 years, there is probably a whole generation of younger men whose ideas about sex have been somewhat influenced by Internet porn rather than being taught by women how to please a woman.

Just a thought.

Orgasmico
07-31-11, 14:28
We all have different ideas of what are beautiful or attractive or sexy putas. So what makes a puta "A-list"? The answer is the monger telling himself she is "A-list" in his own mind. Having convinced himself she is "A-list" he can now justify to himself paying US$100 like a mug.As I said, I hope Miami is right as well. I guess I would say that an "A-list" is determined by the demand for that particular puta, rather than on something subjective like looks. Sometimes the two are correlated but there could be other variables that could play in, like performance or supply relative to demand, for instance.

SavePros321
07-31-11, 15:11
Now that we have had the Internet for about 15 years, there is probably a whole generation of younger men whose ideas about sex have been somewhat influenced by Internet porn rather than being taught by women how to please a woman.

Just a thought.I agree with that statement, but I believe that the only person that can teach a man how to please a woman IS a woman, LOL. But when it comes to paying for sex, I have no obligation to make sure that she "gets hers" (orgasm). It would be different if it were a woman I was dating and was trying to (sexually) please enough to want her to invite me back for more. But with a pro I am paying to be serviced; not the other way around.

I understand that some guys go down on pros; I've even had (American) pros call me "selfish" for not wanting to eat her out. And I'm like "bish, if you want me to do that you're going to have to pay ME. Either that or offer up some extras or a discount!". Of course after I tell them that it becomes clear really quickly who's the biggest selfish person in the room, LOL.

Mr Gogo
07-31-11, 15:36
Another plausible explanation could be that some guys are overdoing the sex, then taking excess Viagra to compensate, and then finding that when they combine that with the effects of alcohol and condoms, they have difficulty reaching a climax, so sex then becomes a rather futile marathon in search of the final leche, which the girl may find uncomfortable and which may leave her sore or internally bruised. Sex is an activity in which two people have to quickly discover how to pleasure each other and any activity that isn't for that end may become tiresome.

Now that we have had the Internet for about 15 years, there is probably a whole generation of younger men whose ideas about sex have been somewhat influenced by Internet porn rather than being taught by women how to please a woman.

Just a thought.Good rebuttle. But I also relates to the fact that guys arent taking the time to properly interview the girls. Its just looks then sex. They don't establish a positive vibe.

It all goes to what I'm seeing in the "New sosua", no GFE. Costa Rica is Unionized and the girls look down on girls that under cut the price structure. How long before Sosua becomes this? There is still adventure aqui, but the fun appears to me earlier in the week. Monday through Thursday the chicas appear more flexible because there are less dudes.

Tempoecorto
07-31-11, 16:05
Sex is an activity in which two people have to quickly discover how to pleasure each other and any activity that isn't for that end may become tiresome.

Just a thought.This is utterly profound and true.

First time I tried the blue pill was in the D. R this last trip (I was concerned about over usage and thought these may compensate) and while I presume it supplied the blood to the needed place, it did nothing to work on the blood flow in the brain which is what triggers I believe, my bio-chemistry and physiology is rather poor, the climax. So we chatted for awhile and the psychological intimacy made it work.

Here is my personal thought: just because a woman is doing it for the money makes her no different.she is just as human as anyone else. For me, if there is chemistry, it works a lot better whether I am paying or not. It does not typically happen with them the first time. It is a lot psychological for them as my understanding is but as they get used and comfortable with a person (just plain old kindness works wonders for me) , it happens more and more often and then yes, they actually look forward to seeing you. Even if it is a paid relationship. A purely mechanical series of pelvic thrusts are as far removed from this as a primordial mating game is. Again, I am speaking of my personal experiences only which may or may not be a shared experience.

Frannie
07-31-11, 16:34
I agree with that statement, but I believe that the only person that can teach a man how to please a woman IS a woman, LOL. But when it comes to paying for sex, I have no obligation to make sure that she "gets hers" (orgasm). It would be different if it were a woman I was dating and was trying to (sexually) please enough to want her to invite me back for more. But with a pro I am paying to be serviced; not the other way around.My perspective is a bit different and more similar to that of Tempoecorto. I would consider the payment made to be more of an equalization payment than a service fee.

What I mean is this. Even at the age of 60, I can still get some women to sleep with me voluntarily without exchange of money other than normal dating expenses. However, I may want to sleep with women whom I find more desirable than those who will volunteer to sleep with me to meet their own sexual needs. Therefore there has to be a payment to level out the differential in youth and beauty.

However, once this is understood and we are behind closed doors, then I don't find the dynamics or practice of the sexual relationship to be any different from a non paid sexual relationship. Whether I would perform oral sex on the woman or not would just depend on how I felt about the idea at the time, and not on any theoretical argument about who owes an orgasm to whom. Also I find that if a woman is highly sexually aroused, then that is also very arousing for me, so the two things are not necessary mutually exclusive in my case, though perhaps this may not apply for others.

To me the great thing about the Dominican Republic has always been that it has given me the opportunity to have sex with women who are basically regular decent women who are not drug addicts or alcoholics, but who have sex with tourists for adventure, for fun, for money, for the dream of getting a plane ticket to somewhere else. Sometimes I have probably overindulged, but, hey, we live and learn.

Seen from their perspective, getting together with a girl friend and traveling to Sosua and renting a room for the summer may be the Dominican chicas equivalent of a gap year in Europe between high school and college for their middle class US counterpart, because that is all that is available for them as a way to get away from small towns and rural villages, repressive families, and so on. And sometimes it works. I feel for a nice 24 year old girl, very religious, who told me the other day that her DREAM is to get on a plane and visit another country, because I doubt whether her dream will come true, but it did, sort of, for her friend who is 19 and who spent 6 weeks last fall in Germany with a middle aged guy. Of course she was bored out of her skull and couldn't wait to get home, but at least she had a chance to see something of the world outside chica prison Dominican Republic.

Tempoecorto
07-31-11, 18:41
I agree with that statement, but I believe that the only person that can teach a man how to please a woman IS a woman, LOL.So true! They are the only one who can teach / guide a man. I have in fact wondered (and mentioned this to women) that I would for once, like to trade places with a woman, to understand what it is like for them to climax. (Smiley)

In all seriousness however, the only time I really feel like a "macho" is when a woman has climaxed (irrespective of any financial transaction) , and lies sweaty in complete submission, with her mouth slightly open in labored breathing and a smile on her face and I have stayed with her get to that state. I can't quite find words to describe that other than it feels like the union of the gods in Greek or Hindu liturgy. Much more powerful than a dumb blue pill ever will be.

Ath Trainer
07-31-11, 19:52
Much more powerful than a dumb blue pill ever will be.[/QUOTE]Don't put down "Mr. V"! He's a good man, and might be your best friend one day, LOL.

Mr Gogo
07-31-11, 22:46
If you have a weak heart, if you are on serious medication, if you are in a hospital, please don't read any further.

I had front row seating for something special Saturday. Info in the Gogo forum.

Tempoecorto
07-31-11, 22:53
Much more powerful than a dumb blue pill ever will be.Don't put down "Mr. V"! He's a good man, and might be your best friend one day, LOL.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Yes, I spoke too soon. You are absolutely right about the time aspect of course to my (and I suspect, many others') chagrin!

Lopkx
08-01-11, 00:45
As I write this a beautiful girl from Santiago is laying next to me in bed watching music videos. We had so much fun last night that I was going to take her on a Puerto Plata date today, but she just fucked up and sadly to say it kind of made me think. She is watching videos now with no idea of what she just said. I asked if she liked Sosua, she said"yes". I then asked what she liked? The beach, the guys, Classicos? She said "noo Classicos too many Americanos negro" and they are "feo". Damn what am I? I'm thinking they have us stereo typed according to darkness. Because I'm light skinned I'm not Americano negro. Maybe growing up in Santiago, maybe they hadn't had exposure to AA. It just made me think. Or maybe Frannie was correct that some women are maybe having bad experiences with Americanos.I wouldn't get hung up on what a prostitute says. What do you expect they have no education, dirty poor, no travel experience, no culture, etc. Their reality is what they see on TV, lying in bed, out at the club, on mean streets of DR. You want to treat someone to Puerto Plata take out a nice non pro girl. IMHO, Pros are meant to be taken to bed period. Not to listen to there brainless bullsh*t. We know all working girls have preferences, just like we do. Some prefer Europeans, some prefer American, some short, some tall, etc. I say who gives a sh*t about a working girls preferences. This is not a GF or wife that we have to make sure they are happy, or to understand there viewpoint, or cuddle them like an egg. F*ck that! All I feel I owe a working girl is to give her the agree upon money, fucking, and safe passage. Nothing more, nothing less. Sometimes kind of tired seeing forum space being occupied with discussion about what a working girl prefers. Nothing towards you Mr Gogo. Just using your comment as a sounding board.

Hillbilly69
08-01-11, 01:00
Pros are meant to be taken to bed period. This is not a GF or wife that we have to make sure they are happy, or to understand there viewpoint, or cuddle them like an egg. F*ck that! All I feel I owe a working girl is to give her the agree upon money, fucking, and safe passage. Nothing more, nothing less.Your not the only one. My idea of GFE is Get the Fuck out my room within 2 two minutes of me finishing the job. Couldn't care less about their name or anything else. The only present a puta has got from me is my dick and it will contiune that way, no Save a Ho program, No GFE fantasy and NO Western Union.

Mr Gogo
08-01-11, 01:15
Your not the only one. My idea of GFE is Get the Fuck out my room within 2 two minutes of me finishing the job. Couldn't care less about their name or anything else. The only present a puta has got from me is my dick and it will contiune that way, no Save a Ho program, No GFE fantasy and NO Western Union.Lopkx and HB69, I respect your opinions always, but some guys prefer to "Stick and move" while others prefer to"Stay and play".

Orgasmico
08-01-11, 02:47
It all goes to what I'm seeing in the "New sosua", no GFE. Costa Rica is Unionized and the girls look down on girls that under cut the price structure. How long before Sosua becomes this? There is still adventure aqui, but the fun appears to me earlier in the week. Monday through Thursday the chicas appear more flexible because there are less dudes.Your analysis is the type of logic I was referring to before when I said Sosua seemed to be trending in this direction. I'm not sure what they charge at places like Passions or Illusions in Santiago or some of the high-end places in SDQ, but it does seem like there are places outside of Sosua that charge higher prices. Seeing the change in the "New Sosua" I think it is possible at some point in the future. As you pointed out, we've already seen a shift away from GFE and a move to a more business like mentality, something many folks would have not envisioned 6 years ago.

Frannie
08-01-11, 02:51
Your not the only one. My idea of GFE is Get the Fuck out my room within 2 two minutes of me finishing the job. Couldn't care less about their name or anything else. The only present a puta has got from me is my dick and it will contiune that way, no Save a Ho program, No GFE fantasy and NO Western Union.Thanks for sharing. Not everyone has the courage to pour his heart out on a board like this.

ForceSteeler
08-01-11, 03:29
I wouldn't get hung up on what a prostitute says. What do you expect they have no education, dirty poor, no travel experience, no culture, etc. Their reality is what they see on TV, lying in bed, out at the club, on mean streets of DR. You want to treat someone to Puerto Plata take out a nice non pro girl. IMHO, Pros are meant to be taken to bed period. Not to listen to there brainless bullsh*t. We know all working girls have preferences, just like we do. Some prefer Europeans, some prefer American, some short, some tall, etc. I say who gives a sh*t about a working girls preferences. This is not a GF or wife that we have to make sure they are happy, or to understand there viewpoint, or cuddle them like an egg. F*ck that! All I feel I owe a working girl is to give her the agree upon money, fucking, and safe passage. Nothing more, nothing less. Sometimes kind of tired seeing forum space being occupied with discussion about what a working girl prefers. Nothing towards you Mr Gogo. Just using your comment as a sounding board.Yeah Prostitutes will say whatever they think will make you happy and feel good. At the end of the day there trying to find ways on how they can get another buck out of you.

Time and Time again I see guys fall into the trap of "She says she loves me, and she miss me" only to find out there sending these stupid bitches western union.

Do guys ever think women can Lie too?

Mr Gogo
08-01-11, 06:13
As I write this a beautiful girl from Santiago is laying next to me in bed watching music videos. We had so much fun last night that I was going to take her on a Puerto Plata date today, but she just fucked up and sadly to say it kind of made me think. She is watching videos now with no idea of what she just said. I asked if she liked Sosua, she said"yes". I then asked what she liked? The beach, the guys, Classicos? She said "noo Classicos too many Americanos negro" and they are "feo". Damn what am I? I'm thinking they have us stereo typed according to darkness. Because I'm light skinned I'm not Americano negro. Maybe growing up in Santiago, maybe they hadn't had exposure to AA. It just made me think. Or maybe Frannie was correct that some women are maybe having bad experiences with Americanos.Just left Classicos and saw the Santiago girl with a dark brother. She had called me earlier in the day but I ignored her call. She is a buisness woman, so I understand. I guess she is telling him that she hates white guys LMAO.

Jaosousa
08-01-11, 08:03
Lopkx and HB69, I respect your opinions always, but some guys prefer to "Stick and move" while others prefer to"Stay and play".GFE is more fun, than mechanical sex. Passion (or great acting) is better than being with a chica who is just going through the motions. Sometimes the less attractive chicas, can be more passionate. I would rather be with an average looking passionate chica, than with a "10" model chica, who is a cold fish.

Mr Gogo
08-01-11, 08:33
I fly out today so thought I'd get a good night sleep, to be fresh looking when my Thai girlfriend picks me up at the airport. Its 3am and I'm restless so decided to walk down el flow to pickup a stragler. After dodging all the crack heads that linger around the curve at Terra Linda saw a girl walking down the street leaving Classico dressed nice. I said donde tu va? She said home. I said how much to go home with me? She said 2500p, Damn its 3:30am. I turned and ignored her expecting a counter offer. After ten seconds looked over my shoulder and she was walking away. Since when do girls go home with nada verses making a deal? Damn hurt my feelings LOL. Only in the new Sosua.

Orgasmico
08-01-11, 11:48
Just left Classicos and saw the Santiago girl with a dark brother. She had called me earlier in the day but I ignored her call. She is a buisness woman, so I understand. I guess she is telling him that she hates white guys LMAO.Thanks for the chuckle this Monday as I go to work. At the end of the day, she is still a puta and wants money so as you said she has to make certain business decisions. Enjoy your day in paradise!

Orgasmico
08-01-11, 13:00
Hi, I have a curiosity about rating of chicas at Sosua. How many chicas get 7-8 rating vote? In other words, if at Sosua there are 100 girls, how may girls are really beautiful?

Thanks for your suggestions.Beauty is subjective so what you think is a 5 others might think is a 10. It's best for you to go there and look for yourself or check some of the photos in this section, but that still doesn't give you the full picture since those are pics of what those guys like. In the meantime, if you're close to NYC there is a Dominican parade in a couple of weeks that will have some nice talent so stop through if your around. The talent will be something like this, which I don't know where you rate but its hittable: http://youtu.be/r2wETS4Mo08

Member #2666
08-01-11, 15:33
Could someone please recommend an apartment to rent for the later part of August.

I know there are plenty of reports contained in the forum but I would like to rent somewhere near the Club Resudentisl area to Passions, not have any chica issues with the management, not pay too much, just a one bedroon or studio with kitchenette and TV.

And most importantly current information. We all know how thing change.

Thanks in advance

SavePros321
08-01-11, 16:04
Now that we have had the Internet for about 15 years, there is probably a whole generation of younger men whose ideas about sex have been somewhat influenced by Internet porn rather than being taught by women how to please a woman.

Just a thought.Damn Frannie, your post must have caught somebody's attention over the weekend, LOL:

========================

By Dr. Madeleine Castellanos.

Published August 01, 2011.

| FoxNews. Com.

"When it comes to sex and the male member, the laws of physics don't always apply. What goes up sometimes comes down all too quickly, or sometimes stays up all too long. Never-ending stamina—and an always-hard penis— may sound great on paper, but in reality, it can be awkward and exhausting for both of you....

One of the major reasons is the rapid proliferation of Internet porn—these days, all you have to do is log on to your laptop to be a few clicks away from everything from the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue to hardcore video clips. Easy access to porn has made frequent masturbation among men more common, which turn can increase the time it takes to reach orgasm and ejaculate during real sex. With so many varieties of porn at your fingertips, you may get in the habit of having a steady flow of sexual novelty and intense visual stimulation and therefore have a more difficult time reaching peak levels of sexual arousal with your real-world partner...."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/health/2011/07/28/too-much-good-thing-when-sex-lasts-too-long/#ixzz1Tn1uZjLb

Charles Pooter
08-01-11, 17:30
it's best for you to go there and look for yourself.not possible. his mum keeps him locked in his bedroom apart from meal times and the weekly visit to the therapist. that's why he has so much time to post hundreds of dumbass questions on this and other boards.

Frannie
08-01-11, 19:03
gfe is more fun, than mechanical sex. passion (or great acting) is better than being with a chica who is just going through the motions. sometimes the less attractive chicas, can be more passionate. i would rather be with an average looking passionate chica, than with a "10" model chica, who is a cold fish.exactamente, amigo. to me the flirtation, acting, and all that goes with it is what makes it enjoyable. otherwise you might as well find a hole in a wall with some guy's mouth on the other side and insert your organ. no pillow talk.

today i am walking into town and unexpectedly run into one of the chicas on my current roster coming in the other direction. we touch hands, kiss on the cheek, brief conversation, see you later, a hug, a reminder of how soft is her skin, and a twinge of arousal occurs as a reminder of what may happen later in the day. that is what makes you feel alive.

now this chica is attractive, though perhaps not the world's greatest looker, and has a missing front tooth where she crunched on a chicken bone and broke it, but she has a wonderful body, skin like velvet, and a kind and affectionate nature, and i love she way she moves her hips when she fucks. what more could you want when you are old enough to be her grandfather?

she has a friend who is probably a 10 whom i can have if i want, but right now i just have her on hold.

as i am writing this a sweet, shy young haitiana of 19 comes tapping on my door having walked over from charamicos across the beach to see if i need anything. actually i don't right now and i give her a kiss on the cheek send her on her way with 50 pesos for the moto. if this causes offense to the meat-and-potatoes guys, then so be it.

age is a factor. as i am about 3 times the age of many of these chicas, i could easily be their grandfather, so i see their antics, their fantasies, their fake biographies, their tricks, as amusing diversions as part of the struggle for survival. i don't perceive them as equal business partners entering a contract in which my sole interest is to get a good deal on my side of the bargain. i give them what i want to give them, and i decide to what extent the relationship might continue in the future.

younger guys may, at least subconsciously, experience these chicas as age group peers and so be much more critical and demanding, especially if they have previously been traumatized by unsatisfactory sexual relations or broken promises.

of course the sex isn't always perfect, but the remarkable thing is that in the last month i have had sex four times (two different girls) that was as good as any sexual experience i have had in my life, both in my amateur career and as a pro. which is remarkable given that my best sexual days ought to be decades behind me. you can never reverse ageing and be young again, but this is the next best thing.

Sovereign
08-01-11, 19:11
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;

In all seriousness however, the only time I really feel like a "macho" is when a woman has climaxed (irrespective of any financial transaction) , and lies sweaty in complete submission, with her mouth slightly open in labored breathing and a smile on her face and I have stayed with her get to that state. I can't quite find words to describe that other than it feels like the union of the gods in Greek or Hindu liturgy. Much more powerful than a dumb blue pill ever will be.[/QUOTE]I totally agree. I love being able to get a woman off, even if it's a chick that I've paid for. I had a semi pro in Sosua back in June who was trying her best to not have a good time as I drilled away. Then I heard her whisper those two magic words "aye papi!" and I broke into a huge smile. Her whole attitude changed after she came, and she wanted to hang around afterwards. Finally had to kick her out. LOL. I live to get women off (either with the tongue, the magic wand or both) regardless if I'm paying. That's just me.

BlackSultan
08-01-11, 20:00
GFE is more fun, than mechanical sex. Passion (or great acting) is better than being with a chica who is just going through the motions. Sometimes the less attractive chicas, can be more passionate. I would rather be with an average looking passionate chica, than with a "10" model chica, who is a cold fish.Of course GFE is more fun. But what alot of guys forget is that they are dealing with LATINAS. You want them to get freaky. You better freak them. This I know to be a bonafide fact. If you expect them to be freaky off the drop????? Well. I can't call it.

Orgasmico
08-02-11, 12:58
After dodging all the crack heads that linger around the curve at Terra Linda saw a girl walking down the street leaving Classico dressed nice. I said donde tu va? She said home. I said how much to go home with me? She said 2500p, Damn its 3:30am. I turned and ignored her expecting a counter offer. After ten seconds looked over my shoulder and she was walking away. Since when do girls go home with nada verses making a deal? Damn hurt my feelings LOL. Only in the new Sosua.Why should she settle for that when there has been such a big spike in New Sosua mongers, most of whom don't know the first thing about the country, the culture, or how to negotiate in the DR? He gets there and tell the girl it's his first trip, he doesn't know spanish and has no regard for anything but wanting to bust a quick drunk nut and go to sleep. They've started outnumbering the the seasoned mongers like you so the girls have started trying to clown everyone. I look around when I'm in Sosua and I see mostly raw newbies. Guys are regularly giving street rats 100 bucks for short time.

Mr Gogo
08-02-11, 15:21
Why should she settle for that when there has been such a big spike in New Sosua mongers, most of whom don't know the first thing about the country, the culture, or how to negotiate in the DR? He gets there and tell the girl it's his first trip, he doesn't know spanish and has no regard for anything but wanting to bust a quick drunk nut and go to sleep. They've started outnumbering the the seasoned mongers like you so the girls have started trying to clown everyone. I look around when I'm in Sosua and I see mostly raw newbies. Guys are regularly giving street rats 100 bucks for short time.Chicas have figured out once the weekend boys come to be more stubborn. There were some deals earlier in the week. Before this trip I didn't think these girls knew how to say"cien".

Frannie
08-02-11, 16:06
It's not just the Dominicans. My partner is Haitian. Whenever we are watching American films with (dark) black actors she claims they are all Haitians. I have tried to explain to her that only a relatively small minority of African Americans have any Haitian origins but they all remain "Haitians" to her.

I wonder if Frannie's wife would have still called the guy "haitiano" had he not been mentally ill?Probably so. Today she commented that as a result of lazing by the pool I was ¨muy negro¨ and that I was starting to look like a Haitiano. Given that I am a fair skinned Caucasian with straight gray hair, this seems like a touch of hyperbole. However, my wife, like most Dominicans, is never wrong. Meanwhile I have been honing my Haitian Creole conversational skills with some of my new compatriots and am completing my studies in Voudoun.

Frannie
08-02-11, 16:12
I fly out today so thought I'd get a good night sleep, to be fresh looking when my Thai girlfriend picks me up at the airport. Its 3am and I'm restless so decided to walk down el flow to pickup a stragler. After dodging all the crack heads that linger around the curve at Terra Linda saw a girl walking down the street leaving Classico dressed nice. I said donde tu va? She said home. I said how much to go home with me? She said 2500p, Damn its 3:30am. I turned and ignored her expecting a counter offer. After ten seconds looked over my shoulder and she was walking away. Since when do girls go home with nada verses making a deal? Damn hurt my feelings LOL. Only in the new Sosua.

Never mind. Your post reminded me of some verses written on the same subject, so I hope this will make up for the disappointment.



When I was young and had no sense.

In far-off Mandalay.

I lost my heart to a Burmese girl.

As lovely as the day.

Her skin was gold, her hair was jet,

Her teeth were ivory;

I said,"for twenty silver pieces,

Maiden, sleep with me".

She looked at me, so pure, so sad,

The loveliest thing alive,

And in her lisping, virgin voice,

Stood out for twenty-five.

(George Orwell. 1925 approx.)

SavePros321
08-02-11, 16:20
Today she commented that as a result of lazing by the pool I was ¨muy negro¨ and that I was starting to look like a Haitiano.LOL, that's like the pot calling the kettle "black." Just goes to show how uneducated and ignorant most Dominicans are. Do they not know that the Haitians had the DR on lock for 22yrs? :

The Haitian occupation of Santo Domingo was Haiti's military invasion and ensuing 22-year occupation of the newly independent Republic of Spanish Haiti, formerly the Captaincy General of Santo Domingo, what is present-day Dominican Republic, from February 9, 1822 until February 27, 1844.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haitian_occupation_of_Santo_Domingo

That "Haitiano" she is talking shit about probably turns out to be a not too distant cousin!

Charles Pooter
08-02-11, 16:50
Given that I am a fair skinned Caucasian.Bit of a threadjack, but are they still using that stupid expression in the US? I use to hear it a lot in police dramas on TV but not so much in stuff made during the last two decades. It derives from racial theories that were discredited a century ago except among Nazis. I thought it had finally been consigned to the trashcan.

Mr Gogo
08-02-11, 17:17
Probably so. Today she commented that as a result of lazing by the pool I was ¨muy negro¨ and that I was starting to look like a Haitiano. Given that I am a fair skinned Caucasian with straight gray hair, this seems like a touch of hyperbole. However, my wife, like most Dominicans, is never wrong. Meanwhile I have been honing my Haitian Creole conversational skills with some of my new compatriots and am completing my studies in Voudoun.I've known this before, but it still amazes me that Domincans are so brain washed regarding race. I guess the culture has implanted in them that there are no other realities. I'm not sure if it stems from their Haitian hatred, or their wanting to be superior. Its one of the reasons I could never take a Dominicana serious, or ever trust her. Two years ago I was in the room with my Dominicana, who is darker than me, and I said you are black. She sat up shook her head and said she is never black. I said what are you, she said"taino" or something like that. Can you imagine if I brought one of these girls to the States (which I would never do) and I took her to the family reunion and she says "I'm not black"? The looks I would get would be priceless. Or if she looks at a baby and say"he is so black is he Haitian"? I would get run out the family.

MiamiHeatLuver
08-02-11, 17:48
I've known this before, but it still amazes me that Domincans are so brain washed regarding race. I guess the culture has implanted in them that there are no other realities. I'm not sure if it stems from their Haitian hatred, or their wanting to be superior. Its one of the reasons I could never take a Dominicana serious, or ever trust her. Two years ago I was in the room with my Dominicana, who is darker than me, and I said you are black. She sat up shook her head and said she is never black. I said what are you, she said"taino" or something like that. Can you imagine if I brought one of these girls to the States (which I would never do) and I took her to the family reunion and she says "I'm not black"? The looks I would get would be priceless. Or if she looks at a baby and say"he is so black is he Haitian"? I would get run out the family.Mr. G. Maybe she meant to say "Triqueña"? That means "wheat, honey colored" LOL. Racial skin tone social structures is something that is passed on from generation to generation in Latin America. It is something installed in them from infancy and it's impossible for them the think otherwise. Latinas are very ignorant when it comes to these subjects and trying to argue with them or make them change their minds is futile.

Chief Justice
08-02-11, 18:19
I fly out today so thought I'd get a good night sleep, to be fresh looking when my Thai girlfriend picks me up at the airport. Its 3am and I'm restless so decided to walk down el flow to pickup a stragler. After dodging all the crack heads that linger around the curve at Terra Linda saw a girl walking down the street leaving Classico dressed nice. I said donde tu va? She said home. I said how much to go home with me? She said 2500p, Damn its 3:30am. I turned and ignored her expecting a counter offer. After ten seconds looked over my shoulder and she was walking away. Since when do girls go home with nada verses making a deal? Damn hurt my feelings LOL. Only in the new Sosua.Yea gogo, I noticed this a lot when I was there last month. Usually a chica would damn near let me call the price, but now they are stuck on $2500 or nothing. I was like wow. What happened to my sweet sosua. Lololo

Chief Justice
08-02-11, 18:25
Why should she settle for that when there has been such a big spike in New Sosua mongers, most of whom don't know the first thing about the country, the culture, or how to negotiate in the DR? He gets there and tell the girl it's his first trip, he doesn't know spanish and has no regard for anything but wanting to bust a quick drunk nut and go to sleep. They've started outnumbering the the seasoned mongers like you so the girls have started trying to clown everyone. I look around when I'm in Sosua and I see mostly raw newbies. Guys are regularly giving street rats 100 bucks for short time.Yes you are right about this. I had a regular quote me 3000. I was like, 'baby, you never charged me that before, ' she kind of just gave me a look. But you see that weekend there was a white party at new garden with a lot of NEW YORKERS and I bet a lot of them were paying that price. I think I may start doing just haitianas and regulars who know what I pay. LOL. I respect inflation and all but goddayum!

Oakie
08-02-11, 18:25
GFE is more fun, than mechanical sex. Passion (or great acting) is better than being with a chica who is just going through the motions. Sometimes the less attractive chicas, can be more passionate. I would rather be with an average looking passionate chica, than with a "10" model chica, who is a cold fish.DR chicas are just like transportation.

ST puta = motoconcho ride (short and a little dangerous)


TLN = Taxi (a little more relaxed, go where you want during the ride.


GF = Rental Car (yours when you reserve)


Wifey = Your car (go when and where you want, but pay the maintenace)


Choose your ride, fellas!

Chief Justice
08-02-11, 18:30
I've known this before, but it still amazes me that Domincans are so brain washed regarding race. I guess the culture has implanted in them that there are no other realities. I'm not sure if it stems from their Haitian hatred, or their wanting to be superior. Its one of the reasons I could never take a Dominicana serious, or ever trust her. Two years ago I was in the room with my Dominicana, who is darker than me, and I said you are black. She sat up shook her head and said she is never black. I said what are you, she said"taino" or something like that. Can you imagine if I brought one of these girls to the States (which I would never do) and I took her to the family reunion and she says "I'm not black"? The looks I would get would be priceless. Or if she looks at a baby and say"he is so black is he Haitian"? I would get run out the family.They are extremely ignorant, but I have had a few tell me that we are all black. Etc. I was shocked.

Sidney
08-02-11, 19:14
I am proud to announce the North Coast return of my friend, Helpmann, a Monger's Monger! He is one of the most knowlegeable, profligate posters on the South Coast. Because he and I always like the same chicas, my favoritas will be placed in detention until his departure! While in Buenos Aires, a city of 10 million, amazingly, we independently, found and liked the same chicas. And in the DR, at different times, we had the same novia! Sosua, you have been given fair warning, Studly Helpmann will 'blow-away' all the chicas!

Frannie
08-02-11, 20:31
I've known this before, but it still amazes me that Domincans are so brain washed regarding race. I guess the culture has implanted in them that there are no other realities. I'm not sure if it stems from their Haitian hatred, or their wanting to be superior. Its one of the reasons I could never take a Dominicana serious, or ever trust her. Two years ago I was in the room with my Dominicana, who is darker than me, and I said you are black. She sat up shook her head and said she is never black. I said what are you, she said"taino" or something like that. Can you imagine if I brought one of these girls to the States (which I would never do) and I took her to the family reunion and she says "I'm not black"? The looks I would get would be priceless. Or if she looks at a baby and say"he is so black is he Haitian"? I would get run out the family.Yeah, well, my wife is not black either, she is morena (brown) and don't you forget it. When I asked her who she would vote for, she said Obama, ¨because he is brown like me. '

But every society and language has its conventions, that don't necessarily make much sense once you go outside of the society where those conventions are accepted.

Even among Europeans having a good sun tan was not historically considered to be a sign of good health or sexiness, but a lower status indication of working as a field hand or sailor, and having pale or white skin was always considered a sign of high status, wealth and class. Nothing really changes.

Rebel Monger
08-02-11, 20:42
LOL, that's like the pot calling the kettle "black." Just goes to show how uneducated and ignorant most Dominicans are. Do they not know that the Haitians had the DR on lock for 22yrs? :

The Haitian occupation of Santo Domingo was Haiti's military invasion and ensuing 22-year occupation of the newly independent Republic of Spanish Haiti, formerly the Captaincy General of Santo Domingo, what is present-day Dominican Republic, from February 9, 1822 until February 27, 1844.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haitian_occupation_of_Santo_Domingo

That "Haitiano" she is talking shit about probably turns out to be a not too distant cousin!Africa is a big continent and it seems that black Dominicans and black Haitians come from different parts of Africa, even when they might look alike to you, they're different.

For Latinos, there are different shades of black.

I'd say that Haitians are looked down, not because of the color of their skins but their poverty. It's known that poverty is a result of lack of initiative and people with that kind of attitude is not respected.

We (mongers) are viewed as "rich" and because of it, above the women we deal with, the putas, in spite of our skin color but once we go up the ladder, the skin color does matter, and it's good to be aware of that in order to avoid disappointments.

Rebel Monger
08-02-11, 21:03
Latinas are very ignorant when it comes to these subjects and trying to argue with them or make them change their minds is futile.Why call someone ignorant because it doesn't conform to your way of thinking? Remember that it goes both ways, you see them as ignorant and so they see you!

Arguments are futile, the result is adding more fuel to the flame. Nobody wins!

You don't have the power to change anyone but yourself, so your choice is to conform to their ways or live and let die.

By the way, when black with money (happens all the time) hook up with white women (black women don't act the same) , isn't that stating that white women are better?

Personally, I'm a Latino who grew up thinking I was white but when it comes to women, I do 'them all, and my best phucks ever were with black women, so when given a choice, it's obvious what I choose!

SavePros321
08-02-11, 21:26
I'd say that Haitians are looked down, not because of the color of their skins but their poverty. It's known that poverty is a result of lack of initiative and people with that kind of attitude is not respected.


You're joking, right? You're telling me that the Haitians are poor because they lack initiative? What about the poor Dominicans? Are they also poor because they lack initiative? Forgive me for not noticing the abundance of job opportunities in the DR / Haiti.

For the record, this "lack of initiative" b.s. is the same argument used on Blacks in the USA; that the reason Black people are poor is because they "lack initiative" (read "lazy"). As a Latino, you should know that Mexicans and Puerto Ricans get hit with this stereotype as well.

JayHighFive
08-02-11, 22:05
Hi Guys,

I'm scheduled to fly into POP on Thursday. Do you think Tropical Storm Emily will close airports? Will there be less action around? Help is appricrated.

Jay

SavePros321
08-02-11, 22:21
Hi Guys,

I'm scheduled to fly into POP on Thursday. Do you think Tropical Storm Emily will close airports? Will there be less action around? Help is appricrated.

JayNot sure, but POP does seem to be in Emily's path. There is a good chance you could get stuck at MIA International (or whichever airport you are flying out of to POP) :

http://www.stormpulse.com/

Frannie
08-02-11, 22:58
Hi Guys,

I'm scheduled to fly into POP on Thursday. Do you think Tropical Storm Emily will close airports? Will there be less action around? Help is appricrated.

JayThese things are always unpredictable. All you can do is make your travel arrangements as normal and hope for the best. The center of a hurricane could pass 15 miles from POP and the airport is back in service 4 hours later after some heavy rain, or it could get a direct hit and be closed for days. Statistically the chances are usually that a hurricane will come nowhere near where you are, and remember that jet flights can go over hurricanes and round hurricanes quite easily. Good luck.

Helpmann
08-02-11, 23:27
I am proud to announce the North Coast return of my friend, Helpmann, a Monger's Monger! He is one of the most knowlegeable, profligate posters on the South Coast. Because he and I always like the same chicas, my favoritas will be placed in detention until his departure! While in Buenos Aires, a city of 10 million, amazingly, we independently, found and liked the same chicas. And in the DR, at different times, we had the same novia! Sosua, you have been given fair warning, Studly Helpmann will 'blow-away' all the chicas!Hi Sidney,

I am looking forward to catching-up with you too. I'll email you my travel details.

Cheers!
Helpmann :)

Charles Pooter
08-02-11, 23:37
Africa is a big continent and it seems that black Dominicans and black Haitians come from different parts of Africa.
It's known that poverty is a result of lack of initiative.
Personally, I'm a Latino .Gosh, what a surprise! And so well-educated and deep-thinking, too.

Lopkx
08-03-11, 01:17
Hi Guys,

I'm scheduled to fly into POP on Thursday. Do you think Tropical Storm Emily will close airports? Will there be less action around? Help is appricrated.

JayDAMN! DAMN! DAMN! I fly in on Friday to SDQ. I hope my flight is not impacted.

Lopkx
08-03-11, 01:30
Outside all the drinking, eating, chicas, etc I am going to do. Is there a gym or place to exercise in Sosua? Just a place with treadmills, weights, the typical. Maybe other hotels that allow you to pay by the day. Any info on this subject?

Tempoecorto
08-03-11, 01:47
I totally agree. I love being able to get a woman off, even if it's a chick that I've paid for. I had a semi pro in Sosua back in June who was trying her best to not have a good time as I drilled away. Then I heard her whisper those two magic words "aye papi!" and I broke into a huge smile. Her whole attitude changed after she came, and she wanted to hang around afterwards. Finally had to kick her out. LOL. I live to get women off (either with the tongue, the magic wand or both) regardless if I'm paying. That's just me.Welcome to the club, Brother. I suspect many members abound. More so, since giving feels always better than getting.

The "aye papi" was beautiful to hear. First time for me this first trip of mine to a spanish speaking land (and no matter in what language it is vocalized or even not) and yes, the change of attitude is remarkable, always.

Tempoecorto
08-03-11, 02:01
DR chicas are just like transportation.

ST puta = motoconcho ride (short and a little dangerous)

TLN = Taxi (a little more relaxed, go where you want during the ride.

GF = Rental Car (yours when you reserve)

Wifey = Your car (go when and where you want, but pay the maintenace)

Choose your ride, fellas!Touche"! Isn't this maxim true irrespective of geography, color of skin, station in life and the somewhat quaint effort to ascribe primacy to long term when long term a famous Economist had defined as,"in the long run, we are all dead"? The Zen is: never mind the mode of transportation, enjoy the ride. (smiley).

Tempoecorto
08-03-11, 02:16
younger guys may, at least subconsciously, experience these chicas as age group peers and so be much more critical and demanding, especially if they have previously been traumatized by unsatisfactory sexual relations or broken promises.that is the beauty of age. which strangely (to me) the young domenicanas apparently go for: kindness and the knowledge of "when to hold them, when to fold them when to walk away and when to run". as kenny rogers sang. good for you frannie!

Oakie
08-03-11, 12:51
I've known this before, but it still amazes me that Domincans are so brain washed regarding race. I guess the culture has implanted in them that there are no other realities. I'm not sure if it stems from their Haitian hatred, or their wanting to be superior. Its one of the reasons I could never take a Dominicana serious, or ever trust her. Two years ago I was in the room with my Dominicana, who is darker than me, and I said you are black. She sat up shook her head and said she is never black. I said what are you, she said"taino" or something like that. Can you imagine if I brought one of these girls to the States (which I would never do) and I took her to the family reunion and she says "I'm not black"? The looks I would get would be priceless. Or if she looks at a baby and say"he is so black is he Haitian"? I would get run out the family.

Princessa is a beautiful chocolate color, but in the first few days of our meeting she used to go on and on about various family members who were light skinned, like she was so damn proud to be associated with them, as if I gave a fuck.

But I learned how shade is important socially to them, when I saw nothing but light skinned TV novella stars, TV hosts, rich folks, and politicians etc.

Then when the kids asked me to bring Barbie dolls, I searched for a couple of brown or black ones, and they were hard to find. But when I took a few down with me they all wanted the blonde ones. Go figure.

It's unnacceptable to me to see that the most beautiful black children I ever saw, have to grow up with these superficially imposed social values, forced on them by their own society.

Rick Rock
08-03-11, 15:49
I haven't been to Sosua in years. I used to spend a lot of time there. Eventually I got burnt out and found other pastures. But I hope to take a trip down there soon and I was wondering how things are nowadays.

I know The Palace is no more. How about the Blue Dolphin and it's owner Canadian John? From what I've seen on this thread it looks like Passions, which was once a tiny bar on the Blue Dolphin property owned by a German guy, has greatly expanded. Are all the same old clubs open? How about the bars? Any major changes I should know about. I will read the forum, but I'd like to hear it directly if there's been any major modifications. Have prices changed a lot?

I recently found a video with Claudia and her big tits in it. Old timers like me may remember her from The Palace: http://xhamster.com/movies/634460/english_cpl_with_dominican.html

Jfregedie
08-03-11, 16:16
I've been to Sosua twice since my last report and I'll say this: I haven't reported anything or posted any pictures because this place is swarming with snitches. I Went back to nothing but dirty looks and cold shouldiers from chicas I've had previous relationship with. A few members on here warned me but wow. We got to do better fellas.

Sosua isn't as lively as it was in feb but I'm happy. It has been raining a lot so the place has been a little empty. Mostly I see the same chicas over and over with a few new ones here and there. Though it beats boca chica any day it's slowly becoming boca chica. I see too may guys lingering trying to sell you stuff and trying to make a commission. Latinos is still pretty empty, Classicos is still the place to be, Passions still has great talent but stiff pricing, Cmp goes from having fuguly chicas to good ones back fuguly and the Coyote bar is horrible. I'm an early morning monger or I should say an all day monger so I'm disapointed by the drop off in chicas during the day. New Garden has women sometimes. Also New garden rooms are too expensive. We need a better ISG discount rate! And with credit card too.

What I've been doing was taking a flight to santo domingo hitting boca chica and taking a bus to sousa. Tons of fun!

Oakie
08-03-11, 17:37
I've been to Sosua twice since my last report and I'll say this: I haven't reported anything or posted any pictures because this place is swarming with snitches. I Went back to nothing but dirty looks and cold shouldiers from chicas I've had previous relationship with. A few members on here warned me but wow. We got to do better fellas.!Wow! Thanks for that.

Always guessed you could blow your cover here, but thought I was just being paranoid.

Sad to see to have to make an effort to find good looking chicas now, whereas before the used to swarm you.

Ah well.

SavePros321
08-03-11, 18:49
Sosua isn't as lively as it was in feb but I'm happy. It has been raining a lot so the place has been a little empty. Mostly I see the same chicas over and over with a few new ones here and there. Though it beats boca chica any day it's slowly becoming boca chica. I see too may guys lingering trying to sell you stuff and trying to make a commission. Latinos is still pretty empty, Classicos is still the place to be, Passions still has great talent but stiff pricing, Cmp goes from having fuguly chicas to good ones back fuguly and the Coyote bar is horrible. I'm an early morning monger or I should say an all day monger so I'm disapointed by the drop off in chicas during the day. New Garden has women sometimes. Also New garden rooms are too expensive. We need a better ISG discount rate! And with credit card too.

What I've been doing was taking a flight to santo domingo hitting boca chica and taking a bus to sousa. Tons of fun!Thanks for this update Jfregedie.

Rebel Monger
08-04-11, 03:38
You're joking, right? You're telling me that the Haitians are poor because they lack initiative? What about the poor Dominicans? Are they also poor because they lack initiative? Forgive me for not noticing the abundance of job opportunities in the DR / Haiti.

For the record, this "lack of initiative" be. S. Is the same argument used on Blacks in the USA; that the reason Black people are poor is because they "lack initiative" (read "lazy"). As a Latino, you should know that Mexicans and Puerto Ricans get hit with this stereotype as well.No, I'm not joking!

When you say "forgive me for not noticing the abundance of job opportunities in DR / Haiti", you're telling me that you're looking for somebody else to solve your problems. Why don't you create your own job? You take a thousand miles journey a step at a time, but most people wait for transportation to take them there. Also, there are plenty of people (are you one of them?) looking for excuses of why it can't be done.

It seems that you don't know the difference between a person who lacks initiative and a lazy person. It's not the same, at least in my book. A person lacking initiative could be motivated; with a lazy person, you'd be wasting your time. Got it now?

John Harold Johnson was born in 1918, was black and proved beyond any doubt that a black person could make it in USA when it was pretty damn hard to do. Let's hope that he re-incarnates soon, as a black man again, or a Mexican, or Puerto Rican!

There's always some true behind stereotypes. If we Latinos are hit with a stereotype is because we deserve it. It really makes my day when somebody asks me where I'm from and when I tell them, they go "oh, you don't sound and act like one of them". My task as a Latino (Cuban) is to prove that the few bad examples among us are not a representation of us all. Are you a good representation of your own people (whatever it might be) or you help to reinforce the stereotype? Remember, laws can be passed to "control" what I say and do, but not what I think and believe.

SavePros321, the problem with me is that I refuse to see myself as a victim!

Have a good day!

Rebel Monger
08-04-11, 04:26
Gosh, what a surprise! And so well-educated and deep-thinking, too.I don't understand, do you want me to feel sorry for you? I can't. I tend to see people for their real potential not for what they are in this moment in time.

One thing I'll never be is "politically correct", that's for hypocrites. A real man would appreciate the true. Would think about it, if needed; make corrections. Then appreciate the sincerity and help. Some are always trying to find shadows in the sun. What a waste!

God (or whatever you think it's responsible for who you are) gave you two ears and one mouth, use them proportionally, and you might learn something. And don't forget, you can't fight class with the lack of it, as a matter of fact, you shouldn't be fighting it but acquiring it.

I don't care for your sarcastic remarks Charles Pooter, it's pretty damn good to be me, and it's getting better!

Have a wonderful day Sir!

TomJackin
08-04-11, 05:17
This used to be such a nice & friendly forum; what happen? Will be in Sosua on the 10th for 6 nights. Any nice, and only nice forum members, chime up, I'm buying!

Frannie
08-04-11, 14:47
John Harold Johnson was born in 1918, was black and proved beyond any doubt that a black person could make it in USA when it was pretty damn hard to do. Let's hope that he re-incarnates soon, as a black man again, or a Mexican, or Puerto Rican!

Johnson was the founder of Ebony Magazine. His family moved to Chicago from Arkansas to escape poverty and received welfare payments for to years when his mother could not find any work. The family economics improved after both his step father and Johnson himself found employment under New Deal employment programs promoted by the Roosvelt administration.

Louis Armstrong was born in New Orleans in 1901 and made it in the USA, after also migrating north to Chicago but not without considerable difficulties including a period in Europe hiding out from organized crime in the US, being exploited by his own manager, and on tour frequently not be allowed to use the men's toilets in the clubs he played in, and having to stay in private homes as he would not be welcome at hotels or motels.

However, the fact of his success lay entirely in the fact that he was a uniquely talented performer who virtually single handed transformed both jazz music from an ensemble form to a soloing form and then, after he injured his lip, brought some of the same techniques to vocal pop singinging and influenced every popular singer who came after. His career was also promoted by some influential whites, such as Bing Crosby, who recognized his talent and sought to bring it before a white audience.

However such cases are the exceptions that prove the rule and while exceptional individuals may sometimes overcome a hostile environment, this cannot really be considered to be a broad based solution to the predicament of Haitians in the Dominican Republic most of whom face considerable difficulty based on refugee status and on ethnic discrimination. There is no welfare system such as supported Johnson´s family, nor government supported job programs for them such as helped Johnson and his family escape early poverty, and even Louis Armstrong had the benefit of several years in an orphanage with a band, without which he would never have learned to play the trumpet.

Ave White Boy
08-04-11, 16:44
I will be in Sosua area August 9th, my plan is to stay for at least a month. If any of you want.

To meet private message me contact info. I have a cell phone I will be bringing to get a local number,

I used it before in Santo Domingo with no problems.

I have RTTF so I think I am prepared as I can be, thanks for all the great information and motivation.

To make this trip. I am cashing in the last of my frequent flyer miles so the cost of my flight is only $100.

The downside is I have to fly in to SDQ (Mon Aug 8th) arrive about 13:30 so I have decided to catch a.

Cab to boca chica and spend the night there.

I should be in Sosua on Tues August 9th to meet up with a realtor to look at some properties to rent.

I have a couple questions, I plan on bringing my home computer, which is 3 24 inch flat panel monitors.

And a small platform mini tower, will easily fit in a carry on bag, which is what I plan to do, carry it on.

I am flying out of Atlanta customs, if that makes a difference? I don't want to check it as luggage

Afraid of loss or damage. Do you think they will let me on with it or make me set it all up and turn it on?

Second question which has been covered here but, wondering what the current internet situation is like

In Sosua or Puerta plata area? Are air cards available? If so are they fast and reliable? Or should I plan.

On getting wired service in the rental apartment etc?

Thanks again looking forward to hopefully meeting some of you while there.

Tempoecorto
08-04-11, 16:50
however such cases are the exceptions that prove the rule and while exceptional individuals may sometimes overcome a hostile environment, this cannot really be considered to be a broad based solution to the predicament of haitians in the dominican republic most of whom face considerable difficulty based on refugee status and on ethnic discrimination.i hate to take this to the political realm but that is the prevailing republican economic logic. each one for himself and taxes are bad. of course, one forgets that without taxes, there will be no public roads or garbage collection or essential infrastructure of electricity, water, sewage and so forth that distinguishes the western civilization from the third world, where there are many "seriously" rich people many by dint of stealing but just look outside their mansions, it will most likely be a garbage dump. and of course, we forget the likes of hobbes, locke, rousseau or voltaire without whom the western civilization would just be another third world.

that africa was raped for several hundred years, by the likes of "sir" cecil rhodes and all colonizing powers by stripping the continent of its most important economic resources, its people. has never quite seeped through our consciousness. that large and manual labor intensive plantations in north and south america, and indeed in asia (cotton, tea and rubber) manned by cheap / free labor was sheer economic bliss for the plantation owners eludes us. that families were continuously broken up by selling people as commodities was never an issue and today we wonder why the black families are mostly only the mama and the children. some of these things were also done by the spanish to the indians living in the americas as well but i digress.

p. s. : i am a native of the third world, for the record and while i have all the contraptions of well-to-do living, i do think it is business sense (a la milton friedman) to take care of my brother, so that god forbid, one day, i may hope for kindness should i need it.

Frannie
08-04-11, 16:54
I will be in Sosua area August 9th, my plan is to stay for at least a month. If any of you want.

To meet private message me contact info. I have a cell phone I will be bringing to get a local number,

I used it before in Santo Domingo with no problems.

I have RTTF so I think I am prepared as I can be, thanks for all the great information and motivation.

To make this trip. I am cashing in the last of my frequent flyer miles so the cost of my flight is only $100.

The downside is I have to fly in to SDQ (Mon Aug 8th) arrive about 13:30 so I have decided to catch a.

Cab to boca chica and spend the night there.

I should be in Sosua on Tues August 9th to meet up with a realtor to look at some properties to rent.

I have a couple questions, I plan on bringing my home computer, which is 3 24 inch flat panel monitors.

And a small platform mini tower, will easily fit in a carry on bag, which is what I plan to do, carry it on.

I am flying out of Atlanta customs, if that makes a difference? I don't want to check it as luggage

Afraid of loss or damage. Do you think they will let me on with it or make me set it all up and turn it on?

Second question which has been covered here but, wondering what the current internet situation is like

In Sosua or Puerta plata area? Are air cards available? If so are they fast and reliable? Or should I plan.

On getting wired service in the rental apartment etc?

Thanks again looking forward to hopefully meeting some of you while there.I would be wary about meeting with a realtor as they will, without any doubt whatsoever, be wanting to show you the pricier properties available and will feign no knowledge of cheaper places of which there are MANY available locally and advertised on the bulletin board at the supermarket or just found by walking around or by asking people. If you want a really nice apartment at the beach for $2000 per month with massive security, then that is no problem, but just depends on your budget.

Most rental apartment complexes have wifi available and included in the price. Even my humble apartment at $400 per month has free electricity, pool, wi-fi, and satellite TV.

There are also numerous Internet cafes. I think you can get wireless modems, but you probably need to make that decision once you get here and know where you will be staying, as it may not be needed.

You should be OK with bringing the computer as carry on baggage, but are you sure the 3 24 inch monitors will fit in a carry on?

Frannie
08-04-11, 17:10
Some of these things were also done by the Spanish to the Indians living in the Americas as well but I digress.I would also like to bring into evidence the case of Charles Dickens, whose father together with his whole family was sent to debtor's prison. Dickens was a talented child and from a young age his father would take him to taverns where he would stand upon the bar and sing, dance, and recite for pennies.

To help the family pay its way the 12-year-old Dickens was released from the prison so that he could go and work in a shoe Polish factory to earn money for the family.

By later writing about some of his experiences and including them in semiautobiographic novels like Oliver Twist and David Copperfield, Dickens became the most successful writer of his age and very wealthy, thus proving that in nineteenth century England any person with genius level talent could make it out of poverty if he just stopped feeling sorry for himself.

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Boriman
08-04-11, 17:17
Johnson was the founder of Ebony Magazine. His family moved to Chicago from Arkansas to escape poverty and received welfare payments for to years when his mother could not find any work. The family economics improved after both his step father and Johnson himself found employment under New Deal employment programs promoted by the Roosvelt administration.

Louis Armstrong was born in New Orleans in 1901 and made it in the USA, after also migrating north to Chicago but not without considerable difficulties including a period in Europe hiding out from organized crime in the US, being exploited by his own manager, and on tour frequently not be allowed to use the men's toilets in the clubs he played in, and having to stay in private homes as he would not be welcome at hotels or motels.

However, the fact of his success lay entirely in the fact that he was a uniquely talented performer who virtually single handed transformed both jazz music from an ensemble form to a soloing form and then, after he injured his lip, brought some of the same techniques to vocal pop singinging and influenced every popular singer who came after. His career was also promoted by some influential whites, such as Bing Crosby, who recognized his talent and sought to bring it before a white audience.

However such cases are the exceptions that prove the rule and while exceptional individuals may sometimes overcome a hostile environment, this cannot really be considered to be a broad based solution to the predicament of Haitians in the Dominican Republic most of whom face considerable difficulty based on refugee status and on ethnic discrimination. There is no welfare system such as supported Johnson's family, nor government supported job programs for them such as helped Johnson and his family escape early poverty, and even Louis Armstrong had the benefit of several years in an orphanage with a band, without which he would never have learned to play the trumpet.One needs resources and opportunities. The more of these the greater chance of success. The nations that have the greatest success, individually and nationally, are those with the greatest resources. This is a positive correlation. More resources-more success. Less resources-less success.

Factor in discrimination (limiting resources to certain groups) , basic needs (as Gandhi said [paraphrasing] 'how can people think of God when they are more concerned about putting food into their stomachs!) , extraordinary circumstances (earthquakes-which destroy life and resources) , and a couple of other variables, and you'll gain a better grasp of the limitations that some people encounter.

Then there is the utilization or resources, which is another chapter for another time.

Ave White Boy
08-04-11, 19:50
I would be wary about meeting with a realtor as they will, without any doubt whatsoever, be wanting to show you the pricier properties available and will feign no knowledge of cheaper places of which there are MANY available locally and advertised on the bulletin board at the supermarket or just found by walking around or by asking people. If you want a really nice apartment at the beach for $2000 per month with massive security, then that is no problem, but just depends on your budget.

Most rental apartment complexes have wifi available and included in the price. Even my humble apartment at $400 per month has free electricity, pool, wi-fi, and satellite TV.

There are also numerous Internet cafes. I think you can get wireless modems, but you probably need to make that decision once you get here and know where you will be staying, as it may not be needed.

You should be OK with bringing the computer as carry on baggage, but are you sure the 3 24 inch monitors will fit in a carry on?The "realtor" I am meeting has several properties advertised for under $500 month, which is what I told him my budget was and I have spoke.

With him on the phone so I have high hopes he will not waste too much of our time. If not maybe we can be neighbors? Sounds like you found.

A good deal with the place you have.

Looking forward to my trip, how's the weather holding out?

Frannie
08-05-11, 00:02
The "realtor" I am meeting has several properties advertised for under $500 month, which is what I told him my budget was and I have spoke.

With him on the phone so I have high hopes he will not waste too much of our time. If not maybe we can be neighbors? Sounds like you found.

A good deal with the place you have.

Looking forward to my trip, how's the weather holding out?OK that is fine, though I wonder how a realtor can make any commission out of the cheaper properties. Of course it depends what is included in the $500. You are doing the right thing by looking first before making a decision.

Weather has been a little overcast with very light rain today, but pleasantly cool. We are not expecting a direct hit from the storm here.

Lopkx
08-05-11, 00:34
I land in Santo Domingo heading to Sosua. Which bus should I take Metro or Caribe? What's the difference? Is it Caribe that has the currency exchange onsite? I land at 2PM if that makes a difference with bus schedules. Plus the time to take taxi to station from airport.

SavePros321
08-05-11, 01:06
I land in Santo Domingo heading to Sosua. Which bus should I take Metro or Caribe? What's the difference? Is it Caribe that has the currency exchange onsite? I land at 2PM if that makes a difference with bus schedules. Plus the time to take taxi to station from airport.I think you want Caribe Tours. This it the bus that travels all over the island. Not sure about currency exchange. According to their official webpage they have buses running from SDQ to Sosua every hour until 7pm. The cost is 330.00RD:

http://caribetours.com.do/viajes

Bus Schedule (not sure how up-to-date it is) in the attached photo.

Marc Anthony
08-05-11, 01:38
yeah carribe tours has more scheduled buses and is easier to hit the same day from sdq. just get thru customs as quickly as possible and tell the taxi to get you to carribe tours station, you'll still get raped by the airport taxi but it's difficult to avoid unless somebody has a solid alternative to just taking the lead taxi of the cartel.

Manizales911
08-05-11, 01:48
I land in Santo Domingo heading to Sosua. Which bus should I take Metro or Caribe? What's the difference? Is it Caribe that has the currency exchange onsite? I land at 2PM if that makes a difference with bus schedules. Plus the time to take taxi to station from airport.I like Caribe the best and yes they have a cambio in the terminal with good rates, passport is required to exchange money though.

Hillbilly69
08-05-11, 01:54
Metro Bus is 30 minutes faster to Sosua if you can make the 4pm bus, it doesn't stop in La Vega thus faster but only 7am. 11am. 4pm departure times.

Orgasmico
08-05-11, 05:16
Metro Bus is 30 minutes faster to Sosua if you can make the 4pm bus, it doesn't stop in La Vega thus faster but only 7am. 11am. 4pm departure times.Metro also leaves you only a block from the strip, which might be better if you have bags and don't want to take additional transportation from the Caribe Tours stop in Charamicos. If you're staying somewhere like New Garden, its an easy walk from where Metro leaves you.

DeepMmpactt
08-05-11, 09:20
Metro Bus is 30 minutes faster to Sosua if you can make the 4pm bus, it doesn't stop in La Vega thus faster but only 7am. 11am. 4pm departure times.The Metro lets you off at a gas station, right across the street, from.

The hotel Don Antonios, Its a 5 minute walk to New Gardens. Plus.

Bring a jacket, the driver blast the air conditioner the whole, trip.

I almost froze to death. LOL. And the driver scares the hell out.

Of you. Just kidding it was a fun trip from Santo Domingo to Sosua.

You won't believe the cuties that ride The Metro bus, I got 3 numbers.

In the few 2 hours of the journey. Enjoy!

Orgasmico
08-05-11, 12:31
Seems like every other month I'm reading or hearing about a Canadian or Euro being shot or killed in the Sosua area. Most recently, the Dutch owner of Casa Valeria was shot at his home by a disgruntled Haitian ex-employee.

http://www.sosuaonline.net/site/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2091:un-ciudadano-holandes-fue-herido-de-dos-balazos-por-desconocidos-cuando-llegaba-a-su-residencia-en-compania&catid=298:regionales-a-nacionales&Itemid=561

Hillbilly69
08-05-11, 13:13
Seems like every other month I'm reading or hearing about a Canadian or Euro being shot or killed in the Sosua area. Most recently, the Dutch owner of Casa Valeria was shot at his home by a disgruntled Haitian ex-employee.

http://www.sosuaonline.net/site/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2091:un-ciudadano-holandes-fue-herido-de-dos-balazos-por-desconocidos-cuando-llegaba-a-su-residencia-en-compania&catid=298:regionales-a-nacionales&Itemid=561Written by: danny00, 27 Jul 2011 4:22 PM.

From: santo domingo.

Violence claims almost 600 lives.

The violence in the country intensified in the first six months of this year, with 570 homicides, an average of 95 each month. These statistics were compiled by Diario Libre using information from the National Institute of Forensic Pathology, reflecting an increase in crime that is shaking the country. During the same period there were 65 suicides with murders involving firearms in first place and stabbings in second place.

NEW YORK CITY IS BREAKING RECORDS. LAST YEAR WITH ALMOST 10 MILLION PEOPLE THEY HAD ONLY 536 MURDERS FOR THE WHOLE YEAR.

Slimtower
08-06-11, 15:43
I almost forgot to put this post up. I was in Sosua last month and had an incident which furthers me to believe the f-ked up mentality that some of these dominicans have. I always thought in the back of my mind that a Dominicans, especially the ones in the tourist area have no sense of dignity nor respect for the people that actually spend money in their "community". Which makes me ask, are there any honest Dominican business owners in the Sosua area? In a country to where a good percentage of the people are barely able to make ends meet should make me think they would think otherwise. I don't want to generalize but I'm speaking off experience! I go to Sosua on a fairly regular basis and I am fully aware of the hustle that goes on. However some things shouldn't be tolerated.

Sooo my last trip was cool, relaxed and sun filled but I had an incident that made me shake my head even further. I needed to exchange some money back to Us because I was taking a ride over to Haiti. I was told you get more gourdes for dollars then pesos. So after having a drink at Classicos I take a walk down the block to the Cambio. Its right next to a female clothing store and in between El Flow. So I give the clerk 3650 pesos to exchange over for Us 100 Dollars. When I got the money I was going to walk away but something told me to count it. I counted 5 20 dollar bills however there was a problem! Would you believe this As-hole gave me 4 (real) 20 Dollar bills and one photocopied 20 dollar bill! I was soo freaking furious and said to him in my best spanish translation. Yo Parece stupido EH EH, Dame un billet Natural. I know it didn't translate perfect but he knew what I meant. So in a confused look he took the bill back checked it out then replaced it with a real bill. I'm like WTF. What the hell is wrong with these people. So I must say whenever I do business with a dominican, I keep a watchful eye! And a note to all, Be careful about that cambia, they'll try to rip you off if they can, so count your money in from of them!

Jaosousa
08-06-11, 18:00
I almost forgot to put this post up. I was in Sosua last month and had an incident which furthers me to believe the f-ked up mentality that some of these dominicans have. I always thought in the back of my mind that a Dominicans, especially the ones in the tourist area have no sense of dignity nor respect for the people that actually spend money in their "community". Which makes me ask, are there any honest Dominican business owners in the Sosua area? In a country to where a good percentage of the people are barely able to make ends meet should make me think they would think otherwise. I don't want to generalize but I'm speaking off experience! I go to Sosua on a fairly regular basis and I am fully aware of the hustle that goes on. However some things shouldn't be tolerated.

Sooo my last trip was cool, relaxed and sun filled but I had an incident that made me shake my head even further. I needed to exchange some money back to Us because I was taking a ride over to Haiti. I was told you get more gourdes for dollars then pesos. So after having a drink at Classicos I take a walk down the block to the Cambio. Its right next to a female clothing store and in between El Flow. So I give the clerk 3650 pesos to exchange over for Us 100 Dollars. When I got the money I was going to walk away but something told me to count it. I counted 5 20 dollar bills however there was a problem! Would you believe this As-hole gave me 4 (real) 20 Dollar bills and one photocopied 20 dollar bill! I was soo freaking furious and said to him in my best spanish translation. Yo Parece stupido EH EH, Dame un billet Natural. I know it didn't translate perfect but he knew what I meant. So in a confused look he took the bill back checked it out then replaced it with a real bill. I'm like WTF. What the hell is wrong with these people. So I must say whenever I do business with a dominican, I keep a watchful eye! And a note to all, Be careful about that cambia, they'll try to rip you off if they can, so count your money in from of them!Manizales has reported problems with that cambio before. You know they wouldn't try to pull that BS on a fellow Dominican, because they might get shot.

Most tourist areas, there are rip-off type Dominicans, it is no surprise. They know they can [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off and rip off a multitude of tourists and there will be new victims arriving weekly.

With all the tourist police in Sosua, you would think they could possibly do their job and protect tourists, by shutting down a rip off money exchange place. Where is the female mayor of Sosua, shutting down a rip off money exchange place? (not going to happen). But they have lots of time and energy to arrest and molest chicas walking around in Sosua (who are breaking no laws).

Buscemi
08-06-11, 19:02
So I give the clerk 3650 pesos to exchange over for Us 100 Dollars.The exchange rate last month in Sosua was $RD38 to buy Pesos and $38.50 to sell them. I would have been a little suspicious if he accepted $3650 for $USD100. Are you sure this was this year?

Jaosousa
08-06-11, 19:37
Written by: danny00, 27 Jul 2011 4:22 PM.

From: santo domingo.

Violence claims almost 600 lives.

The violence in the country intensified in the first six months of this year, with 570 homicides, an average of 95 each month. These statistics were compiled by Diario Libre using information from the National Institute of Forensic Pathology, reflecting an increase in crime that is shaking the country. During the same period there were 65 suicides with murders involving firearms in first place and stabbings in second place.

NEW YORK CITY IS BREAKING RECORDS. LAST YEAR WITH ALMOST 10 MILLION PEOPLE THEY HAD ONLY 536 MURDERS FOR THE WHOLE YEAR.Tough economic times, crime will go up. I was warned about an uptick in crime before my last trip to DR, two months ago. Robbers on motorcycles with guns, as a driver you have to be careful.

Hillbilly69
08-06-11, 20:28
So after having a drink at Classicos I take a walk down the block to the Cambio. Its right next to a female clothing store and in between El Flow. So I give the clerk 3650 pesos to exchange over for Us 100 Dollars. When I got the money I was going to walk away but something told me to count it. I counted 5 20 dollar bills however there was a problem! Would you believe this As-hole gave me 4 (real) 20 Dollar bills and one photocopied 20 dollar bill!Your not the first one, the little fag tried shorting me 500 pesos and I said WTF? He asked to see the money then quickly gave me the 500 pesos he screwed me out of. JD1982 got shorted also.

Oakie
08-06-11, 20:41
Seems like every other month I'm reading or hearing about a Canadian or Euro being shot or killed in the Sosua area. Most recently, the Dutch owner of Casa Valeria was shot at his home by a disgruntled Haitian ex-employee.]Thanks for the report.

That's two people I knew fairly well, in the last six months. There was obviously a dispute in both cases as apparently no robberies were involved, and both were residents of Sosua.

Looks like mongers are relatively safe tho.

I've been called out here, for being a little too "passive", but the safe bet is to avoid any confrontation with locals.

Manizales911
08-06-11, 21:16
Your not the first one, the little fag tried shorting me 500 pesos and I said WTF? He asked to see the money then quickly gave me the 500 pesos he screwed me out of. JD1982 got shorted also.I have written several times on this very board about this guy, he is a fucking thief, period. I can lead you horses to the water but I can't make you drink it.

Boriman
08-07-11, 00:24
I needed to exchange some money back to Us because I was taking a ride over to Haiti. I was told you get more gourdes for dollars then pesos. So after having a drink at Classicos I take a walk down the block to the Cambio. Its right next to a female clothing store and in between El Flow. So I give the clerk 3650 pesos to exchange over for Us 100 Dollars. When I got the money I was going to walk away but something told me to count it. I counted 5 20 dollar bills however there was a problem! Would you believe this As-hole gave me 4 (real) 20 Dollar bills and one photocopied 20 dollar bill! I was soo freaking furious and said to him in my best spanish translation. Yo Parece stupido EH EH, Dame un billet Natural. I know it didn't translate perfect but he knew what I meant. So in a confused look he took the bill back checked it out then replaced it with a real bill. I'm like WTF. What the hell is wrong with these people. So I must say whenever I do business with a dominican, I keep a watchful eye! And a note to all, Be careful about that cambia, they'll try to rip you off if they can, so count your money in from of them!About a year ago me and my two buddies went to the same exchange. When they change dollars into pesos the guy at the exchange shortchanged them. When I approached the window I gave him a $100 and I made sure that I counted the money before I left. He was hesitant to pull the same stunt on me as he did for my other two friends. I will never go to that exchange again.

Sabor
08-07-11, 00:55
About a year ago me and my two buddies went to the same exchange. When they change dollars into pesos the guy at the exchange shortchanged them. When I approached the window I gave him a $100 and I made sure that I counted the money before I left. He was hesitant to pull the same stunt on me as he did for my other two friends. I will never go to that exchange again.It's the fuckstick that works at night. He tried to do the same to me once and I called him out on it. Played the fool. There is another guy in the A. M. That's cool. I think he's religious. Anyway he alway's does the calculater thing and gives you the reciept, the asshole in the evening does not!

Tsunami911
08-07-11, 03:01
I can tell you from past very enjoyable vacations with Arien, he is a first class stand up guy. I have stayed at his hotel many times and he and his wife has protected me many times when I had toooooo mucho fun. So this must be part of the deranged culture folks learn in that part of the world. But I will continue to go until I get an experience that tells me that its time to wake up. I am hoping he is OK. Lets try to keep having fun!


Thanks for the report.

That's two people I knew fairly well, in the last six months. There was obviously a dispute in both cases as apparently no robberies were involved, and both were residents of Sosua.

Looks like mongers are relatively safe tho.

I've been called out here, for being a little too "passive", but the safe bet is to avoid any confrontation with locals.

Buscemi
08-07-11, 04:21
It's the fuckstick that works at night. He tried to do the same to me once and I called him out on it. Played the fool. There is another guy in the A. M. That's cool. I think he's religious. Anyway he alway's does the calculater thing and gives you the reciept, the asshole in the evening does not!I can personally vouche for the daytime guy that wears glasses, he matches the rate at Banco Santa Cruz, calculator tape and all. He even makes small change afterwards.

Night time is apparantly the wild wild west and I will not change money there after reading this thread.

AVOID this place after dark.

Buscemi

SavePros321
08-07-11, 05:25
It's the fuckstick that works at night. He tried to do the same to me once and I called him out on it. Played the fool. There is another guy in the A. M. That's cool. I think he's religious. Anyway he alway's does the calculater thing and gives you the reciept, the asshole in the evening does not!I've only been to this cambia in the A. M. and there was always an older guy with glasses on and a chica. They also used the calculator, count the money out in front of you, and give you a receipt. Never had any problems with this place but after reading everyone else's experience with this place I will avoid in the future.

TomJackin
08-07-11, 05:49
I've only been to this cambia in the A. M. and there was always an older guy with glasses on and a chica. They also used the calculator, count the money out in front of you, and give you a receipt. Never had any problems with this place but after reading everyone else's experience with this place I will avoid in the future.It turns out that is where I change my dollars into pesos as well.

I will be there next week, any other place someone could recommend? I tried one of the banks before, but I waited forever and a day in line.

Tsunami911
08-07-11, 06:29
In my experiences with the (CHANGE) MEN the best spot during the day is at the corner at Bon Ice cream. They holler at you CHANGE- CHANGE- and it is pretty regular with the rate. If you have to change LATE not after 8PM go to the shop thats across the street from Baileys heading to the corner where the Happy Bar might be on the left side of the street. I heard the Happy Bar might have closed. Banco Popular is good for Debit withdrawl, not to much of a hit on fees and they have not frauded my debit card in 6 years- AMAZING.


It turns out that is where I change my dollars into pesos as well.

I will be there next week, any other place someone could recommend? I tried one of the banks before, but I waited forever and a day in line.

Oakie
08-07-11, 11:24
It turns out that is where I change my dollars into pesos as well.

I will be there next week, any other place someone could recommend? I tried one of the banks before, but I waited forever and a day in line.Myself and folks I know always use Sergio, the main guy who hangs around the Happy Bar corner. Never had a problem and he gives the best rate, At least he does for the chicas.

But as always, count your change (and your fingers) before you walk away, and never change money after dark. It's not their best time, or yours.

Oakie
08-07-11, 11:35
I can tell you from past very enjoyable vacations with Arien, he is a first class stand up guy. I have stayed at his hotel many times and he and his wife has protected me many times when I had toooooo mucho fun. So this must be part of the deranged culture folks learn in that part of the world. But I will continue to go until I get an experience that tells me that its time to wake up. I am hoping he is OK. Lets try to keep having fun!I stayed there my very first times in Sosua and they always looked out for me. They always managed to come up with a room if my buddy fell in love around the corner. After dark there was always a guard behind that iron gate, so I imagine it must have happened in the daytime, or off premises.

Hillbilly69
08-07-11, 23:26
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpYYM24AI3s&feature=player_embedded

Frankypanky
08-08-11, 00:58
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpYYM24AI3s&feature=player_embeddedGuy got beaten by cops, as he refuses to cooperate?

Hillbilly69
08-08-11, 01:03
Guy got beaten by cops, as he refuses to cooperate?No clue, just thought I would post Politur at it's best in Sosua.

Onedazz
08-08-11, 04:37
In my experiences with the (CHANGE) MEN the best spot during the day is at the corner at Bon Ice cream. They holler at you CHANGE- CHANGE- and it is pretty regular with the rate. If you have to change LATE not after 8PM go to the shop thats across the street from Baileys heading to the corner where the Happy Bar might be on the left side of the street. I heard the Happy Bar might have closed. Banco Popular is good for Debit withdrawl, not to much of a hit on fees and they have not frauded my debit card in 6 years- AMAZING.The places I use have been rock solid for changing cash. Here is how to get to it. At NG coming out make a right. Cross to the left side. At the intersection make a left staying on the left. Pass Claro, a bar and some stores. You come to the corner of a small plaza at the left. That corner is the cambio, but I'm not good with names. Hay un salon del massaje alrededor esta esquina.

Boriman
08-08-11, 08:42
When one walks by Baileys Restaurant, on the way to Clisante, one passes by a bank (to your right). Beyond it is a gated area. Once you enter go straight and you will hit a massage place (I forget the name of it). Make a left and go straight until you reach a cell phone place that advertises unlocking phones (it will be to your right). Right before that place a guy is usually sitting outside a gate. Go through the gate into another gate and ring the bell, if necessary. Go in and a born again Christian guy will gladly exchange your money. In my opinion he gives the best rates in Sosua. I even saw a worker from New Garden go in there to exchange money.

The fellow used to work for Western Union and after leaving took the customer list with him. He likes to keep it low key and this is why he does not advertise. I would have never found the place if it wasn't for someone showing it to me. When I showed others even they asked me how the hell I knew about the place. The owner says that he does not like to deal with locals but rather with tourists, since he has less problems with them. He finds it better not to advertise. He actually give a better exchange rate than the banks.

TomJackin
08-08-11, 19:20
Thanks all for the multiple money exchange options.

Boriman. I wish you could draw a map. Going through 3 gates, ringing bells, and so forth. Will Baileys be on my right, as to walking away from the NG street, or will it be on my left? Sounds like a fun scavenger hurt; I'm in!

One great thing about the Sosua thread, you can always get answers to your questions.

Jaosousa
08-08-11, 19:36
Guy got beaten by cops, as he refuses to cooperate?That dude was drunk and acting like a fool (seems he might be Dominican) , the cops were nice to him.

Lex460
08-09-11, 04:12
Hello, All,

Looking to plan a trip the week after Christmas. How is it during that week? Does everyone stay home like the rest of DR? Slim pickings?

Lex

Slimtower
08-09-11, 04:42
The exchange rate last month in Sosua was $RD38 to buy Pesos and $38.50 to sell them. I would have been a little suspicious if he accepted $3650 for $USD100. Are you sure this was this year?Yes I'm sure.

SanLuisMex
08-09-11, 06:39
I will be in Sosua for Fri-Sun, Sep 16th-19th. Staying at the Coco Hotel. What are the must see bars? It is the off-season, what can I expect in terms of quantity? I know it is like asking what is the cost to build a home, it depends. But what can I expect to pay for a good time? Any info will be helpful.

Boriman
08-09-11, 08:30
Thanks all for the multiple money exchange options.

Boriman. I wish you could draw a map. Going through 3 gates, ringing bells, and so forth. Will Baileys be on my right, as to walking away from the NG street, or will it be on my left? Sounds like a fun scavenger hurt; I'm in!

One great thing about the Sosua thread, you can always get answers to your questions.When you exit New Garden you make a right. Go to the corner (Where the Bon Ice Cream place is). Make a left and as you cross the street you will be heading towards Clisante. Baileys should be to your right. Walk on the side of Baileys and as you continue you will have the bank to your right. Continue walking and you will reach a gated area. Make a right and the rest is as I described.
If Omar is still working at the New Garden he can also tell you how to get there. If your still in doubt you can even ask Omar to get you the guy's business card, which the guy easily hands out to his customers. My apologies for all the confusing directions but I got the impression that the money exchange guy preferred it to be this way.

I heard of an excellent exchange in Cabarete. There is a bank in the area. Do not enter the bank but walk around and behind it. There is an exchange there. It has some of the best rates I've ever heard. I've never been to this place but a person I work with usually travels to DR for business and mentioned it to me. If you are interested I'll ask him for exact directions.

Another monger had mentioned to me of an excellent exchange in Charamicos (for the adventurous). I asked him to give me directions but he did not know so I do not know if this information is reliable.

Charles Pooter
08-09-11, 17:35
I will be in Sosua for Fri-Sun, Sep 16th-19th. Staying at the Coco Hotel. What are the must see bars? It is the off-season, what can I expect in terms of quantity? I know it is like asking what is the cost to build a home, it depends. But what can I expect to pay for a good time? Any info will be helpful.I reckon your average monger spends around US$150 a day (plus hotel and flight). Some guys can have a good time for US$100 but this is difficult to achieve on a short stay like yours. Many others spend US$200 or more a day. Biggest difference is the amount you drink and what you drink. A sensible amount of local drinks (rum or beer) won't impact your budget much, gallons of Hennessey and Grey Goose will. The other main factor is how much you spend on chicas and how often. If you have one short-time in the day@1000 Pesos and one TLN@2000 Pesos you are within the US100 a day range. If you start taking chicas out of Passions or paying 3000 for pick-ups in Clasico then you are in the US$200 a day bracket.

Hillbilly69
08-09-11, 21:42
Another monger had mentioned to me of an excellent exchange in Charamicos (for the adventurous). I asked him to give me directions but he did not know so I do not know if this information is reliable.Just walk through the beach past Black Box up the stairs and up to the top of the hill on the right. Best exchange rates I have seen.

Ave White Boy
08-09-11, 22:55
I just got in town in Sosua, spending the night at Rocky's in one of the condos.

Will be in town for a month or so, I am traveling solo so any of you regulars.

In the area hit me up. I have a orange enabled cell phone I can pm you.

The number.

Thanks a lot for all the info, first time in Sosua looking forward to some adventure!

Later

Frannie
08-10-11, 21:41
I reckon your average monger spends around US$150 a day (plus hotel and flight). Some guys can have a good time for US$100 but this is difficult to achieve on a short stay like yours. Many others spend US$200 or more a day. Biggest difference is the amount you drink and what you drink. A sensible amount of local drinks (rum or beer) won't impact your budget much, gallons of Hennessey and Grey Goose will. The other main factor is how much you spend on chicas and how often. If you have one short-time in the day@1000 Pesos and one TLN@2000 Pesos you are within the US100 a day range. If you start taking chicas out of Passions or paying 3000 for pick-ups in Clasico then you are in the US$200 a day bracket.Or you could take the long stay economy plan. This is not counting room rental.

4000 pesos per week for food and water.

5000 pesors per week for sex 4 or 5 times.

Total 9000 pesos per week, which is about $250 per week. However, if you wanted to be really frugal, you could go quite a bit lower.

I calculated the food budget as 150 per day for full breakfast. 250 per day for a takeout meal or pizza, and an additional 200 pesos per day for groceries and sundries, so you could make your own sandwiches or snacks for lunches.

I then deducted 200 pesos for Sundays to come to 4000 pesos per week.

To this you would have to add the cost of any alcoholic drinks. A cold beer is 40 pesos and a bottle of drinkable Chilean red wine is 125 pesos, so you could have a daily bottle of wine for an extra 875 pesos per week.

Other possible expenses. Viagra tablets available at Latino's Minimarket for 100 pesos for 4 tablets of 100 mgs. Condoms, pack of 3 for 75 pesos.

So total weekly budget with food, sex, wine, condoms, generic Viagra would be 10, 000 pesos per week or about $270.

As I said you could go a bit lower, but on the other hand you could go much higher, especially if you are going out and spending money at bars and restaurants, buying drinks for other people, renting chairs at the beach, exceeding the sex limit, using motoconchos and taxis, taking chicas out of prepaid brothels such as La Passion, and indulging in other luxuries.

Hope this gives some idea.

Thelmas Gone
08-11-11, 19:32
I have been going to Sosua for over ten years. I was in the area with my family two weeks ago and escaped to Sosua for a few hours and was shocked to see the Shark Bar gone. The store next to it says it closed like 3 months ago. Does anyone have a contact email for Lou as I would like to say Hello, as I have known him for many years. Thanks in advance.

Buscemi
08-12-11, 22:27
I have been going to Sosua for over ten years. I was in the area with my family two weeks ago and escaped to Sosua for a few hours and was shocked to see the Shark Bar gone. The store next to it says it closed like 3 months ago. Does anyone have a contact email for Lou as I would like to say Hello, as I have known him for many years. Thanks in advance.Lou is back in Sosua I heard, not sure what the story is with the bar.

He is really not a computer person.

Orgasmico
08-13-11, 01:43
Sure I'll see plenty of "make it rain" NYC clowns like this making rap vids, LOL.

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BogieMaker
08-13-11, 06:33
Sure I'll see plenty of "make it rain" NYC clowns like this making rap vids, LOL.Actually was not all that bad. Got a little boring a after a while but sure made me miss the chicas from Passions. At least two months before I can return hope you have a good trip.

DeepMmpactt
08-13-11, 09:00
I just got in town in Sosua, spending the night at Rocky's in one of the condos.

Will be in town for a month or so, I am traveling solo so any of you regulars.

In the area hit me up. I have a orange enabled cell phone I can pm you.

The number.

Thanks a lot for all the info, first time in Sosua looking forward to some adventure!

LaterHey my brother, my name is Deepmmpactt aka El Caballo Negro,

Youll probally still be in sosua, come to new gardens, asked the girls sitting around.

To point you to El Caballo Negros room, we can party our ass off! I'm African.

American 6ft3 295lbs, dark skinned brother, I wear glasses, and short hair. Get at me.

I arrive Fri Sept 8th, thru 14th. Lets party.

Orgasmico
08-13-11, 14:16
Actually was not all that bad. Got a little boring a after a while but sure made me miss the chicas from Passions. At least two months before I can return hope you have a good trip.Did you see any of these chicas still there? http://www.youtube.com/embed/b8lMGFy3Fc4

Jaosousa
08-13-11, 14:30
Sure I'll see plenty of "make it rain" NYC clowns like this making rap vids, LOL.
I'm flying an international airline and not a piece of you-know-what USA airline. and they serve a hot meal (unlike USA airlines).White European dudes making music videos with chicas in bikinis more acceptable to you? David Guetta (Pierre David Guetta). Sexy Chick: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9hazmsUxrM&feature=relmfu

You should be happy with the make it rain crowd in Sosua, the DR pro chicas under the "rain" are getting free, easy money and afterwards they might be inclined to give you a discount. Nothing wrong with sharing the wealth.

Buscemi
08-13-11, 16:18
Did you see any of these chicas still there?

http://www.youtube.com/embed/b8lMGFy3Fc4For every five chicas that get married to a pendejo or fired each week, Mariella recruits five new ones from her barrio. No need to fall in love with any one of them in particuliar, chances are they will be replaced with a copy by the time you land in paradise.

PS: That video is over two years old, as it is pre-renovation, I would say NONE of these girls are still in Peter's harem!

Orgasmico
08-13-11, 17:01
For every five chicas that get married to a pendejo or fired each week, Mariella recruits five new ones from her barrio. No need to fall in love with any one of them in particuliar, chances are they will be replaced with a copy by the time you land in paradise.

PS: That video is over two years old, as it is pre-renovation, I would say NONE of these girls are still in Peter's harem!Yeah, I know. I stopped through there not long ago. I see girls working at places like New Garden that used to work at Pasions even before this vid so yeah the girls eventually move on to other venues or they hook up with a gringo to finance them. You're right about the replacements. Personally, I liked Pasions much more when it was a little corner spot, but that's probably just me. I had a session in there about 4 years ago just to see what it was like. I like to go in and look at the talent and have a drink now, and I know its there as a last resort for me, but I can usually find what I like and how I like it in other locations. It was just amusing to me that this dude "singing" about so many girls was in Pasions, LOL.

FoxesHunter
08-14-11, 11:57
Just walk through the beach past Black Box up the stairs and up to the top of the hill on the right. Best exchange rates I have seen.I'm sorry but I don't understand if to change money (eruro or US$) is more advantageous by ATM or by a "Casa de cambio".

Bkgee
08-14-11, 16:20
I'm sorry but I don't understand if to change money (eruro or US$) is more advantageous by ATM or by a "Casa de cambio".I think it would better to change by cash if you can do so. Atm, you get less money and also you have to pay ATM fees. I for one don't use the ATM's if I don't have to. Alot of members on this forum will have there own veiws of this, this is just my veiw.

BogieMaker
08-14-11, 17:19
I'm sorry but I don't understand if to change money (eruro or US$) is more advantageous by ATM or by a "Casa de cambio".If you already have money you wouldn't need to use an ATM. If you do not have money you need to use an ATM (cajero automático) or other methods. I personally do not like to travel with a lot of cash so I use the many ATM's in the DR to get the money I need. There are many ATM's in Sosua.

FoxesHunter
08-14-11, 17:31
If you already have money you wouldn't need to use an ATM. If you do not have money you need to use an ATM (cajero automático) or other methods. I personally do not like to travel with a lot of cash so I use the many ATM's in the DR to get the money I need. There are many ATM's in Sosua.I think you don't understand my bad english. I mean what is more favourable the change. Is it better by ATM or by Casa de cambio?

BogieMaker
08-14-11, 17:52
I think you don't understand my bad english. I mean what is more favourable the change. Is it better by ATM or by Casa de cambio?When I was there in May I got anywhere from 36. 5 to 37. 5 DOP / USD so the exchange rate is not too bad although some cambio's where offering almost 38 DOP. With an ATM you will pay 112 pesos (about $3) to the banks to use their ATM and you might also have to pay ATM fees to your bank. Almost every ATM transaction had a different rate of exchange and the only way to know was to look at your bank statement and do the math since there is not indication from the ATM what the rate might be. My ATM card is from a Credit Union that does not charge me to use other ATM's so I only pay the 112 peso charge. This is covered elsewhere on this board and there is a differing of opinion on whether to bring money with you or use an ATM after you arrive. I typically bring enough for my room (s) and pull the rest from an account designated just for travel. If you use an ATM you would want to pull at least 10, 000 DOP at a time to offset the charge by the bank. Some people on this board recommend you go inside the bank for safety purposes.

As far as exchanging money US- DOP there are may options available. The recommendation is to make sure you count the money you receive and check to make sure the money is real and not counterfeit.

I would say the most "favorable" rate would be to exchange money for DOP rather than use an ATM since with an ATM you never really know want the exchange rate will be until the transaction has been completed.

Hope this helps.

BogieMaker
08-14-11, 18:03
Saw this add on Backpage.

What girl wouldn't like to live the life of a supermodelo en la casa de lujo.

18-35yrs de edad con identificacióand, hablar Inglés, deber ser capaz de vivir en la casa de lujo. 5 theías en vivo en. 2 theías de descanso. Gran Opportunidad para conocer why hablar con Americanos solitario. Debe ser amigable why sexy. Vivir como una supermodelo!

Vive en una casa de lujo en Sosua con servicio de mucama. Libre habitacion why alimentos además de gran sueldo cada semana!

Los estudiantes aceptados.

Debe audicióand por 3 dias para ser aceptados.

Correo electrónico dos fotos: 1 de la cabeza. 1 del cuerpo envia a hotcamstudios@yahoo.com Por favor incluya su teléfono celular.

Salary / Wage: Gran Sueldo cada semana why libre habitacion why los alimentos.

Education: not required.

Status: Full-time.

Shift: Days, Nights and Weekends.

• Location: Sosua, DR

Jaosousa
08-14-11, 18:11
Saw this add on Backpage.

What girl wouldn't like to live the life of a supermodelo en la casa de lujo.

18-35yrs de edad con identificacióand, hablar Inglés, deber ser capaz de vivir en la casa de lujo. 5 theías en vivo en. 2 theías de descanso. Gran Opportunidad para conocer why hablar con Americanos solitario. Debe ser amigable why sexy. Vivir como una supermodelo!

Vive en una casa de lujo en Sosua con servicio de mucama. Libre habitacion why alimentos además de gran sueldo cada semana!

Los estudiantes aceptados.

Debe audicióand por 3 dias para ser aceptados.

Correo electrónico dos fotos: 1 de la cabeza. 1 del cuerpo envia a hotcamstudios@yahoo.com Por favor incluya su teléfono celular.

Salary / Wage: Gran Sueldo cada semana why libre habitacion why los alimentos.

Education: not required.

Status: Full-time.

Shift: Days, Nights and Weekends.

• Location: Sosua, DRThere are some DR chicas (some doing lesbian shows) and DR couples on streamate. Lots of colombianas on streamate and live jasmine (pay webcam sites).

TomJackin
08-18-11, 05:13
Initially I thought I picked the wrong time of year to go; I was dead wrong. It is the low season, but also low season for the other mongers as well, thus, less mongers, so it was a buyer's market. This was my forth trip within a year, and it was also one of my best. One thing I noticed this trip was that the girls did not come out to play until 10 or 11. It was funny, it seemed the girls were playing "Hide and Seek" during the day, because there was limited street action. But when the police yelled,"Olly Olly Oxen Free" later in the evening; the ladies came out in full force!

Hotel:

Stayed at the New Garden for the fourth time. Jenny got my reservation straight and gave me a nice hug as well. There was action off and on throughout the day and early evening. I latched on to this cutie with a great smile and attitude. She helped me fulfill my afternoon needs. After I introduced her to my friends, Mr. Bubble and Mr. Jets, she soon became a "Jacuzzi Master." I kid you not, she would be sucking me off and at the same time, she would maneuver her cute little ass towards Mr. Jets. I started charging her 20 pesos each time she leched.

On one afternoon, I think it was Thursday, I was sitting around the NG with Coolie High and his entourage having some adult beverages, and there must have been 11-12 women coming in the NG and hanging out. This including the Santiago sisters, which I thought was just a myth. I thought they looked good, but make-up does wonders I guess. There were a lot of new faces at the NG, but some old and worn as well.

The Beach:

Herman's place was closed throughout my stay. But I did get a chance to meet up with him a couple of times to discuss the going ons in Sosua. I did make to the beach on Sunday and Monday, which was a holiday, to check out the action, if there was any. On Sunday, there was some action, but it was slim pickens to say the least. The beach was packed, but mostly with families. And seeing how I didn't want a family, I didn't stay very long.

Bars & Clubs:

CMP: I started out there because it was the first one walking that direction and I always had good luck there. It was my first night and I was ready for some action. I sat at the bar and watched the girls parade pass me, smiling, and touching me nicely. This place has a few more hotties than I saw my last couple of trips. But I was just shopping and enjoying the "buyers market." Then around the corner came the "Fireball!" Bright red hair, not the finest body in the place, but her attitude and passion made up for that quickly. I've never seen a lady dance so hard, and without spilling a drop of her presidente; she was stunning, playful, and full of passion. She was providing a lap dance while I was sitting at the bar and I damn near lost my load. At one point, I'm looking around for a paramedic just in case of heart failure. After a great time in the room, we discussed her night off activities; date time! One thing I don't like about CMP, it is hot as hell in that place. Sit under a fan is the best advice I can give on that; I did.

La Passion: Stopped in there a few times and the talent was up as well. Plus there is more of a selection than CMP. I just don't like that corral setting. You know, the girls are in a corral of sorts, and the customers are on the outside looking in; very little interaction for my taste. But don't get me wrong, La Passion had the finest fillies in Sosua this trip.

Banana Club: It appeared that someone had a nice thought putting this place together, but did not follow through on the talent. Plus. 250 pesos for a fucking screwdriver? It wasn't a complete waste of time because I wanted to check the place out, but I never returned.

El Flow & Rumba: Both of these places had a good share of women available, but unlike the last trip when the girls were out in the late afternoon, they did not come out until later in the evening.

Merengue: Nowhere near the action by 9 or 10 as in the last trip. I walked through there a few times around 10, and the place seem dead.

Classico: Never made it in the place.

Latino: Still my favorite late night spot. Was in there every night from 12 to whenever. The night club focuses on Latino music, vice the American stuff at Classico; which I appreciate. I did not travel from the west coast to listen to otherwise. I also really like the staff. We have the "I take care of you, and you watch out for my dumb ass" agreement. Miguel, Clarixa, and Angel seem to know all the girls in the place. I could point to any one of the girls, and quickly receive a thumbs up or down from the team. Manny is no longer there, but at the After One club instead.

After One Club: When Classico and Latino close, the crowd pours into this club. I never got to the After One club until after three. I like this place, it is a good size with decent music to boot. I only hit this place a couple of times because I'm old and need my rest.

Sambuca Sucks!

Coolie High, his entourage, and I decided we were hungry while we were drinking at the NG. We walk down to Di Colores for some food. I always had good food in that place and it has reasonable prices to boot. Coolie asked me if I wanted to do a shot. Asking a sailor if he wants to do a shot is like asking a Chica if she wants 3000 pesos for ST; hell yeah! The place has no tequila, but did have vodka; bring it on. Turns out that the staff are confused because it wasn't vodka, but fucking sambuca!

It wasn't more than 10 minutes later when Coolie and I invented this new game,"You make the call." About four or five shots later, my world was spinning faster than normal. Went back to the NG, grabbed the NG Girl and my plan was to have jacuzzi and rack operations. I still don't what the girl and I did that afternoon; it remains a mystery.

Lesson learned?

I called Coolie High the next afternoon to see if he had an agenda for the day. Coolie said that he was presently at Di Colores having lunch and for me to come by; no problem. I leave the NG Girl in the room and head over. Now you would figure that one of us, at least one of us, would have learned a lesson from the day before. The server asked me if I wanted a drink, and I hear this from across the table,"You make the call." Oh hell no! But wait, I'm a sailor; let's do it! We both had the same lame excuse,"We're on vacation!" Nope, didn't learn that lesson!

Sometimes you are tired, but when opportunity knocks; got to take it!

After a sambuca nap, I called Little Dancer and later she met me at the NG. I spend time with Little Dancer every trip because she's so damn cute and one heck of a dancer. After some jacuzzi and rack operations, we head to her favorite restaurant; Morua Mia. After dinner and a few drinks, I didn't feel like doing much of anything. It was around 10:30 and I was still feeling the "sambuca aftermath." I sent her off and headed back to the NG. Rafael still had the bar open, so I sat down and chatted for a bit. This pretty dark skinned lady walked in and sat down. Big titties and nice size ass to match. I looked at Rafael and he looked at me and gave me the big "thumbs up" sign. After some slight negotiations, off to the room for more and rack operations; life is good!

Patience is essential, something will happen!

I'm was in Latino Saturday night and sitting next to Clarixa at the bar. It was about 2:00 and more and more local men were pouring in and I was about to give up and throw in the towel on Latino. This dark skin beauty stepped in front of me to get some napkins, because apparently there is no toilet paper in the ladies room. I tapped her on the shoulder and said Hello. I got a great smile in returned and she told me she would return soon; which she did. Ana was beautiful and a really sweet girl. I got the thumbs up from Miguel, Clarixa, and Angel within a matter of minutes. We closed Latino and then she introduced me to the After One club. Did not get back to my room until 6:00, asleep at 8:00. I felt it the next day for sure. Was it worth it; absolutely!

Sometimes many things happen at the same damn time!

I had a date for 8:00 with Fireball and was sitting at the NG bar drinking with NG Girl and chatting with Rafael about the night before. I wanted to take Fireball to my favorite restaurant; Waterfront. Well 8:45 rolls around and I'm hungry, so I told Rafael to call me if Fireball shows up. He asked,"How will I know her if she comes?" I told him not to worry, he would. So the NG Girl has been such a champ the last few days, I said what the hell and took her to Waterfront instead; which she really enjoyed.

After dinner, we head back to the room for jacuzzi operations. It was about 11:00 and no sooner than I got off in the jacuzzi, I get two calls within a minute apart. The first call is from Coolie High and he lets me know that he's heading for Bailey's restaurant and advises that I should join him for his last night blow out celebration; I agreed. The second call is from Fireball and she informs me that she is on her way. Jesus tap dancing Christ! Now what?

I call Coolie back to tell him to give me some time because I have issues to deal with, such as kicking NG Girl out the door and waiting for Fireball. NG Girl wants to stay in the room and watch TV, which she has done a couple of times in the past; but not this time for sure. I send her out, clean up a bit, and flew down to the NG gate. Fireball arrives and we head off to Bailey's. Met up with Coolie and friends and discussed the evening plans. We decided to go my route; Latino.

We weren't in Latino ten minutes before I hear,"You make the call." That was one hell of a "Here we go!" moment. But at least there, we can say fuck the sambuca, and decided to go the tequila and kamikazi direction. I was with Fireball, my new friend playing "You make the call," and with my favorite bartender in the world; Miguel. I had a "Life is great" moment! But then walks in Ana, the girl from the night before. Then I had a "Holy shit, I'm fucked" moment! As luck would have it for me this trip, it turns out that Ana and Fireball were childhood chums and are happy as hell to see each other! Ana never said a word about us.

Going out with a bang and final thoughts forthcoming.

Mr Gogo
08-18-11, 11:16
The Coolie High trip report is in the Mr Gogo section, all are welcome.

Great report Tomjackin.

Nacho
08-19-11, 15:44
Thanks Tomjackin, looks like you made the right call!

TomJackin
08-19-11, 20:58
After a great night with Fireball and Ana, my new friend, Coolie, playing "You make the call," and with my favorite bartender in the world, Miguel, I only had one more day and night in Sosua. I could have relaxed and chilled out for the day. But then again, I could chill out on the plane just as well.

The morning started out great. I woke up next to Fireball. Both of us were buck naked, but neither of us had a clue what happened. Leaving the club, how we got there, what happened in the room; NADA. But I did take some pictures so I have an idea of some of the activities. Plus the jacuzzi was topped off, so I guess we were in there as well. Either way, we both laughed about it and then she got serious and said my three favorite words,"Fuck me Papi." What's a man to do? We played, slept some more, then played some more. She said she had to be at work at 2:00, it was almost 3:00. I promised her I would come say goodbye to her tonight, and I do keep my promises.

I hit the beach for a couple of hours. My understanding was that Monday was a holiday, but not too many people were on the beach, including available Chicas; but I tried anyhow. Later on in the early evening I met up with Herman outside some store near Passion. There were tables and chairs set up outside the store so folks can drink a brew while watching the happenings in the street and people passing by. The store really only had beer so I figured Herman and I would talk for awhile, so I bought a bottle of Absolute and a half gallon of orange juice.

Herman explained that business was extremely bad and that's why he closed his beach bar for a couple of weeks. He also said there were many reports of mongers having problems with the girls in the clubs because it was a buyer's market and some of the girls were desperate for money. However, I did not have a single problem during my stay. Every girl that passed us seemed to know Herman. At one point, this pretty dark skinned beauty stopped by to say Hello, to Herman. He introduced me to her, don't remember her name. She said she was hungry and asked Herman for 40 pesos. He said no, but I said yes. I gave her 100 pesos and off she went. But she came back with the change, sat next to me, and ate her food; I liked her.

It was still early evening and time was on my side, my age no, but time was. I had one of those "If you don't play with this young dark sweetie, you might regret it for the rest of your life" moments. She agreed to 700 pesos for ST and after saying goodbye and thanking Herman, off we went. In the room, she was a bit inexperienced; but I expected that. She danced for me, I was able to take videos and pictures, and we both enjoyed each other's company. A real bargain indeed.

I promised one of the servers at Morua Mia that I would stop by for a dinner before I left. That place is hurting, but not as bad as La Roca (across the street) , which closed down. As soon as I ordered my drink, I got a call from Little Dancer. It was like somehow she knew I was in her favorite restaurant. I thought she was home in Puerto Plata, but she was in Sosua. I told her where I was and she jumped at the chance to come by and join me. Within 3 minutes, she was there. After dinner she planned to meet her girlfriend at Classico, which was fine because I had other things to do. I gave her some pesos, said goodbye, and sent her off on her way.

Stopped in CMP and drank a bit with Fireball. She danced up a storm for me while I watched; I was once again amazed with her dancing skills. The manager let me take all the photos and videos that I wanted; so I did. We got really close to each other in a short time, but I learned over time, she is not my girlfriend, it's only my turn; so be it.

Headed to Latino. There was a tall, beautiful lady with a good size ass that I've been watching throughout my times in Latino, and she was there again that night. The place was not that crowded so we were able to maintain continuous eye contact. I walked over to her and asked her if she wanted a beer; she accepted. I asked Miguel and Clarixa for a thumbs up or down signal, but they were not sure about her. Personally, I thought she was buck wild and a real hoot!

Within about 30 minutes, Ana walking in, came over, and put a lip lock on me. The other girl did not respond. It seems like they knew each other as well; go figure. So we all partied together throughout the night. When Latino closed, we all headed to After One, and Miguel joined us as well. Ana and I left After One at about 5:00. The other girl wanted to do a happy hour with the both of us, but I was drained and decided to end my trip just with Ana.

Final thoughts:

Sosua is far from dead, but it is more for the late night crowd. I don't mind the late nights because I'm not much of a morning person. Sosua is still one of my favorite places in the world to travel to; Pattaya being the first. The place is still a bargain and the women are very fun to play with, especially if you adore the dark skin Chicas as I do. Don't give in to the bullshit reports, go there, the town needs your business. Don't let Sosua die! As of this past week, Sosua is still alive and kicking ass!

Jfregedie
08-19-11, 21:55
Are these the girls? If so they are fantastic providers and one of them goes both ways

SavePros321
08-19-11, 22:18
After a great night with Fireball and Ana, my new friend, Coolie, playing "You make the call," and with my favorite bartender in the world, Miguel, I only had one more day and night in Sosua. I could have relaxed and chilled out for the day. But then again, I could chill out on the plane just as well.

The morning started out great. I woke up next to Fireball. Both of us were buck naked, but neither of us had a clue what happened. Leaving the club, how we got there, what happened in the room; NADA. But I did take some pictures so I have an idea of some of the activities. Plus the jacuzzi was topped off, so I guess we were in there as well. Either way, we both laughed about it and then she got serious and said my three favorite words,"Fuck me Papi." What's a man to do? We played, slept some more, then played some more. She said she had to be at work at 2:00, it was almost 3:00. I promised her I would come say goodbye to her tonight, and I do keep my promises.

I hit the beach for a couple of hours. My understanding was that Monday was a holiday, but not too many people were on the beach, including available Chicas; but I tried anyhow. Later on in the early evening I met up with Herman outside some store near Passion. There were tables and chairs set up outside the store so folks can drink a brew while watching the happenings in the street and people passing by. The store really only had beer so I figured Herman and I would talk for awhile, so I bought a bottle of Absolute and a half gallon of orange juice.

Herman explained that business was extremely bad and that's why he closed his beach bar for a couple of weeks. He also said there were many reports of mongers having problems with the girls in the clubs because it was a buyer's market and some of the girls were desperate for money. However, I did not have a single problem during my stay. Every girl that passed us seemed to know Herman. At one point, this pretty dark skinned beauty stopped by to say Hello, to Herman. He introduced me to her, don't remember her name. She said she was hungry and asked Herman for 40 pesos. He said no, but I said yes. I gave her 100 pesos and off she went. But she came back with the change, sat next to me, and ate her food; I liked her.

It was still early evening and time was on my side, my age no, but time was. I had one of those "If you don't play with this young dark sweetie, you might regret it for the rest of your life" moments. She agreed to 700 pesos for ST and after saying goodbye and thanking Herman, off we went. In the room, she was a bit inexperienced; but I expected that. She danced for me, I was able to take videos and pictures, and we both enjoyed each other's company. A real bargain indeed.

I promised one of the servers at Morua Mia that I would stop by for a dinner before I left. That place is hurting, but not as bad as La Roca (across the street) , which closed down. As soon as I ordered my drink, I got a call from Little Dancer. It was like somehow she knew I was in her favorite restaurant. I thought she was home in Puerto Plata, but she was in Sosua. I told her where I was and she jumped at the chance to come by and join me. Within 3 minutes, she was there. After dinner she planned to meet her girlfriend at Classico, which was fine because I had other things to do. I gave her some pesos, said goodbye, and sent her off on her way.

Stopped in CMP and drank a bit with Fireball. She danced up a storm for me while I watched; I was once again amazed with her dancing skills. The manager let me take all the photos and videos that I wanted; so I did. We got really close to each other in a short time, but I learned over time, she is not my girlfriend, it's only my turn; so be it.

Headed to Latino. There was a tall, beautiful lady with a good size ass that I've been watching throughout my times in Latino, and she was there again that night. The place was not that crowded so we were able to maintain continuous eye contact. I walked over to her and asked her if she wanted a beer; she accepted. I asked Miguel and Clarixa for a thumbs up or down signal, but they were not sure about her. Personally, I thought she was buck wild and a real hoot!

Within about 30 minutes, Ana walking in, came over, and put a lip lock on me. The other girl did not respond. It seems like they knew each other as well; go figure. So we all partied together throughout the night. When Latino closed, we all headed to After One, and Miguel joined us as well. Ana and I left After One at about 5:00. The other girl wanted to do a happy hour with the both of us, but I was drained and decided to end my trip just with Ana.

Final thoughts:

Sosua is far from dead, but it is more for the late night crowd. I don't mind the late nights because I'm not much of a morning person. Sosua is still one of my favorite places in the world to travel to; Pattaya being the first. The place is still a bargain and the women are very fun to play with, especially if you adore the dark skin Chicas as I do. Don't give in to the bullshit reports, go there, the town needs your business. Don't let Sosua die! As of this past week, Sosua is still alive and kicking ass!As always, thanks for taking the time to drop back by the board after your trip and hitting us with a trip report Tomjackin. We appreciate the consistency!

Coolie High
08-19-11, 23:21
After a great night with Fireball and Ana, my new friend, Coolie, playing "You make the call," and with my favorite bartender in the world, Miguel, I only had one more day and night in Sosua. I could have relaxed and chilled out for the day. But then again, I could chill out on the plane just as well.

The morning started out great. I woke up next to Fireball. Both of us were buck naked, but neither of us had a clue what happened. Leaving the club, how we got there, what happened in the room; NADA. But I did take some pictures so I have an idea of some of the activities. Plus the jacuzzi was topped off, so I guess we were in there as well. Either way, we both laughed about it and then she got serious and said my three favorite words,"Fuck me Papi." What's a man to do? We played, slept some more, then played some more. She said she had to be at work at 2:00, it was almost 3:00. I promised her I would come say goodbye to her tonight, and I do keep my promises.

I hit the beach for a couple of hours. My understanding was that Monday was a holiday, but not too many people were on the beach, including available Chicas; but I tried anyhow. Later on in the early evening I met up with Herman outside some store near Passion. There were tables and chairs set up outside the store so folks can drink a brew while watching the happenings in the street and people passing by. The store really only had beer so I figured Herman and I would talk for awhile, so I bought a bottle of Absolute and a half gallon of orange juice.

Herman explained that business was extremely bad and that's why he closed his beach bar for a couple of weeks. He also said there were many reports of mongers having problems with the girls in the clubs because it was a buyer's market and some of the girls were desperate for money. However, I did not have a single problem during my stay. Every girl that passed us seemed to know Herman. At one point, this pretty dark skinned beauty stopped by to say Hello, to Herman. He introduced me to her, don't remember her name. She said she was hungry and asked Herman for 40 pesos. He said no, but I said yes. I gave her 100 pesos and off she went. But she came back with the change, sat next to me, and ate her food; I liked her.

It was still early evening and time was on my side, my age no, but time was. I had one of those "If you don't play with this young dark sweetie, you might regret it for the rest of your life" moments. She agreed to 700 pesos for ST and after saying goodbye and thanking Herman, off we went. In the room, she was a bit inexperienced; but I expected that. She danced for me, I was able to take videos and pictures, and we both enjoyed each other's company. A real bargain indeed.

I promised one of the servers at Morua Mia that I would stop by for a dinner before I left. That place is hurting, but not as bad as La Roca (across the street) , which closed down. As soon as I ordered my drink, I got a call from Little Dancer. It was like somehow she knew I was in her favorite restaurant. I thought she was home in Puerto Plata, but she was in Sosua. I told her where I was and she jumped at the chance to come by and join me. Within 3 minutes, she was there. After dinner she planned to meet her girlfriend at Classico, which was fine because I had other things to do. I gave her some pesos, said goodbye, and sent her off on her way.

Stopped in CMP and drank a bit with Fireball. She danced up a storm for me while I watched; I was once again amazed with her dancing skills. The manager let me take all the photos and videos that I wanted; so I did. We got really close to each other in a short time, but I learned over time, she is not my girlfriend, it's only my turn; so be it.

Headed to Latino. There was a tall, beautiful lady with a good size ass that I've been watching throughout my times in Latino, and she was there again that night. The place was not that crowded so we were able to maintain continuous eye contact. I walked over to her and asked her if she wanted a beer; she accepted. I asked Miguel and Clarixa for a thumbs up or down signal, but they were not sure about her. Personally, I thought she was buck wild and a real hoot!

Within about 30 minutes, Ana walking in, came over, and put a lip lock on me. The other girl did not respond. It seems like they knew each other as well; go figure. So we all partied together throughout the night. When Latino closed, we all headed to After One, and Miguel joined us as well. Ana and I left After One at about 5:00. The other girl wanted to do a happy hour with the both of us, but I was drained and decided to end my trip just with Ana.

Final thoughts:

Sosua is far from dead, but it is more for the late night crowd. I don't mind the late nights because I'm not much of a morning person. Sosua is still one of my favorite places in the world to travel to; Pattaya being the first. The place is still a bargain and the women are very fun to play with, especially if you adore the dark skin Chicas as I do. Don't give in to the bullshit reports, go there, the town needs your business. Don't let Sosua die! As of this past week, Sosua is still alive and kicking ass!Hold up! Wait a damn minute! You mean to tell me you found time to play with a new bunny but couldn't find time to 'make the call' to that fresh 18yr old honey dip that was serving us sambuca LOL! Man one of us should have gotten on that one. She was fresh from the country too. Its all good though cus we still had a great time down there. Good reports my friend. Can't wait for us to hookup and get fucked up again LOL

Buscemi
08-20-11, 16:19
Are these the girls? If so they are fantastic providers and one of them goes both waysThe one in red is an original "Santiago sister", the one on the right is just a friend. The Santiago sisters have more mileage than a Sosua / Puerto Plata publico, these girls have been sucking dick in The New Garden since it was The Garden Keti, that is almost ten years, NO THANK YOU, there is much fresher catch in the pond.

Orgasmico
08-20-11, 17:48
Are these the girls? If so they are fantastic providers and one of them goes both waysMuchas gracias!

Jfregedie
08-20-11, 20:59
The girls in the picture are twins so how can one just be a friend? Also their like 20 years old I remember their cedula so how can they've been sucking for almost ten years?

I have many pictures of they and another girl I had a foursome with. Very sexy graphic stuff

Mr Enternational
08-20-11, 21:26
The one in red is an original "Santiago sister", the one on the right is just a friend. The Santiago sisters have more mileage than a Sosua / Puerto Plata publico, these girls have been sucking dick in The New Garden since it was The Garden Keti, that is almost ten years, NO THANK YOU, there is much fresher catch in the pond.This means she has had plenty of practice and should warrant no complaints.

SavePros321
08-20-11, 21:59
The girls in the picture are twins so how can one just be a friend? Also their like 20 years old I remember their cedula so how can they've been sucking for almost ten years?

I have many pictures of they and another girl I had a foursome with. Very sexy graphic stuffLOL Jfregedie, Buscemi ain't lying to you bro. These chicas are not sisters and have been around a very loong time. I had the one in the red back in March '09 just to put things in perspective. She was hanging around the pool at NG the same afternoon I checked in. This was my very first time staying in Sosua and I have seen these two on the prowl there on every trip every since then.

Just do a forum search of the "Santiago Sisters" and you will find out that dudes have been talking about these two way before I even discovered mongering back in '07!

20yrs old my ass. That's probably the same cedula they've been using since the age of twenty, LOL!

This was the best I could get these pics of the O.G. Santiago Sister (the one in the red in your pics) at the time. Age has not been kind too her to say the least, but judging from your pics she seems to be a master at the art of "reinvention." In all fairness these photos don't do her much justice, but that's not saying much to say the least :D

Lopkx
08-20-11, 22:32
For does who need a cabana in Sosua for whatever reason. I went to a new cabana discovery near Playa Chicquita Casino called Dulce Secreto. I went to this Cabana about two weeks ago because Terra Linda hotel only allows you in with one girl and I was curious about this place. It is nice, clean, and new but rooms are small. I took the Jacuzzi room but the bed could not have been more than a Queen if not smaller and it was hard to fit the two girls and myself on the bed. By the way I spend the entire night there no issues and ate the food. Food was nothing to write home about and jacuzzi is big enough at best for 2 people. In summary for convenience, clean and a safe location, I would recommend this place but if you have time to go to the Puerto Plata Cabanas, I would go. The Cabanas in PP are much nicer, larger, better. I think this is just a fact because there is competition in PP BTW the numerous cabanas versus in Sosua. Pics attached.

Lopkx
08-20-11, 23:08
I paid $69 / night in cash for a king for 5 days. 2 weeks ago. Willy originally quoted me $89 / night. At $89 / night this place is not worth it but in the 60s range works for me. I enjoyed the food in the restaurant. Pretty good quality for breakfast. Typically after eating the free big breakfast I usually was not hungry for lunch. I liked the mangu. I ate there once or twice also for dinner and they had a special on steak and it was really good. So pleasantly surprised by the restaurant but really no ambiance, usually the place is pretty empty except for a couple of people here and there. Free breakfast menu pics attached.

But the rooms are not at the quality of $80 and up per night. If they ever tried to charge me that amount, I would not stay at TL. Plus, I didn't like there old *ss safe that requires the key to open. No combination, nor the AC which I couldn't figure out how to set a temperature on it, nor the small tv, nor the 1 chica friendly rule. What they worried about only like 20% of the hotel is ever occupied at any one time. Plus internet works if you are in the first building and the signal is a little weak so before leaving the for the DR, I purchased a WIFI long range repeater to boost the signal. Glad I did. Would not recommend building 2 if you need internet a lot.

IMHO In summary for $50 / night or $60 / night it is worth it. For $70 plus maybe. For $80 plus no way.

Jaosousa
08-21-11, 02:21
I paid $69 / night in cash for a king for 5 days. 2 weeks ago. Willy originally quoted me $89 / night. At $89 / night this place is not worth it but in the 60s range works for me. I enjoyed the food in the restaurant. Pretty good quality for breakfast. Typically after eating the free big breakfast I usually was not hungry for lunch. I liked the mangu. I ate there once or twice also for dinner and they had a special on steak and it was really good. So pleasantly surprised by the restaurant but really no ambiance, usually the place is pretty empty except for a couple of people here and there. Free breakfast menu pics attached.

But the rooms are not at the quality of $80 and up per night. If they ever tried to charge me that amount, I would not stay at TL. Plus, I didn't like there old *ss safe that requires the key to open. No combination, nor the AC which I couldn't figure out how to set a temperature on it, nor the small tv, nor the 1 chica friendly rule. What they worried about only like 20% of the hotel is ever occupied at any one time. Plus internet works if you are in the first building and the signal is a little weak so before leaving the for the DR, I purchased a WIFI long range repeater to boost the signal. Glad I did. Would not recommend building 2 if you need internet a lot.

IMHO In summary for $50 / night or $60 / night it is worth it. For $70 plus maybe. For $80 plus no way.Thanks for posting. Looks like a nice pool at Terra Linda. Last time I was in Sosua, Terra Linda was a vacant building.

Cabana in Sosua could be good for guys staying in all inclusive hotels, or for guys staying in other towns who visit Sosua for the day or evening.

Jfregedie
08-21-11, 05:43
It all comes back to me. The girls I photoed aren't the santiago sisters. Look closely my girls are much younger and much smaller. Yes they were twins. The santiago sisters I first saw on the habib show or whatever the guy is who films the Dr sex stuff. Much older and more ran down looking.

Here's another picture of my girls, also I've been to sosua 4 times and never saw the santiago sisters

Buscemi
08-21-11, 18:02
It all comes back to me. The girls I photoed aren't the santiago sisters. Look closely my girls are much younger and much smaller. Yes they were twins. The santiago sisters I first saw on the habib show or whatever the guy is who films the Dr sex stuff. Much older and more ran down looking.

Here's another picture of my girls, also I've been to sosua 4 times and never saw the santiago sistersAVOID the one on the right, known thief!
I stand corrected, none of those girls are "Santiago Sisters", the old lady posted in blue by SavePros321 is named Yolie, and is the younger of the Santiago Sisters, she is about 30 by now!

Jaosousa
08-21-11, 19:51
AVOID the one on the right, known thief!

I stand corrected, none of those girls are "Santiago Sisters", the old lady posted in blue by SavePros321 is named Yolie, and is the younger of the Santiago Sisters, she is about 30 by now!The nut job chica from Santiago. I was detained by the police because of her. She tried to steal a cell phone from an apartment, where I was staying, by pushing the cell up her pussy. Eventually the police, had her pull the cell phone out of her pussy in the street. Thereafter she complained that her pussy was hurt and said it was my fault, and the incompetent Sosua police detained me. She also tried to stab me with the switch blade she carries in her purse (she got into Classicos and After One with that knife) and she also tried to stab the watchie man at the apartment building. The incompetent, useless, Dominican judge in Sosua told ME to pay her 1000 pesos, or I would be put in jail.

I don't miss Sosua,"swim with sharks, don't be surprised if you get bit."

SavePros321
08-21-11, 22:15
It all comes back to me. The girls I photoed aren't the santiago sisters. Look closely my girls are much younger and much smaller. Yes they were twins. The santiago sisters I first saw on the habib show or whatever the guy is who films the Dr sex stuff. Much older and more ran down looking.

Yeah, not the same chicas:

AMATEUR DOMINICAN SISTERS FROM SANTIAGO

http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1809473956

The one with the gold streaks in her hair is the one in the photos I posted. She looks a lot better in the video, lol. I guess the camera man thought so too because she is show the most throughout the video.


I stand corrected, none of those girls are "Santiago Sisters", the old lady posted in blue by SavePros321 is named Yolie, and is the younger of the Santiago Sisters, she is about 30 by now!You're telling me she is younger than the lighter-skinned one? I find that hard to believe. I always thought it was the other way around.

Buscemi
08-22-11, 03:28
Yeah, not the same chicas:

AMATEUR DOMINICAN SISTERS FROM SANTIAGO

http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1809473956

The one with the gold streaks in her hair is the one in the photos I posted. She looks a lot better in the video, LOL. I guess the camera man thought so too because she is show the most throughout the video.

You're telling me she is younger than the lighter-skinned one? I find that hard to believe. I always thought it was the other way around.Thanks for the link. Jaja. They are worn out, their daughters will be on the strip in a few years.

As far as age, actually streak hair is the older one, they both lie about their real age, so I am guessing.

The real names are Niurka (Streak Hair) and Yolie dark hair!

Riky Rapido
08-22-11, 07:01
Thanks for the link. Jaja. They are worn out, their daughters will be on the strip in a few years.

As far as age, actually streak hair is the older one, they both lie about their real age, so I am guessing.

The real names are Niurka (Streak Hair) and Yolie dark hair!I did Carolina (Niurka) before she did the movie thing with Habib. Then just recently did her again in our home town north of Santiago. She is nice to look at but nothing special, dollar signs in her eyes. Then less than two weeks ago I got a glimse of her at a bus stop, turned my bike around, stopped, started making conversation only to find out it is her Sister. They look like twins but are a year apart. Met up with them later that evening in Sosua where there just weren't any guys out roaming, August you know. With their good looks a night without a trick must be something. The bars in Sosua was mobbed with cock crazed chicas. So, they offered their services and off we went to my hotel. Just OK for a 3 some. It is 330am and and my cell went off. They need a place to stay. So, this time it is TLN, and they brought a third chica from the same town we live in. Their night, all 3, went scoreless except for me. So the next morning they are up at 8am and chattering among the 3. The 3d chica jumps in bed with me and proceeds to give me a great BJ and then rode me cowgirl. Wish I had done her TLN in the first place. Gave her 1000 pesos. Off they went. What a ball draining night!

Riky Rapido
08-22-11, 07:05
It all comes back to me. The girls I photoed aren't the santiago sisters. Look closely my girls are much younger and much smaller. Yes they were twins. The santiago sisters I first saw on the habib show or whatever the guy is who films the Dr sex stuff. Much older and more ran down looking.

Here's another picture of my girls, also I've been to sosua 4 times and never saw the santiago sistersBut not twins, a year apart. I know them well and they don't live in Santiago. See my report.

Coolie High
08-22-11, 11:39
(TRIP REPORT Day 1: Haiti the 4th World and Day 2: Forcing it in Haiti in stores now. Check Mr. Gogos forum for your local listing)

Trip Report Day 3: Good to be Home.

Landed in SDQ and it's night and day from Haiti. How in the fuck is that even possible? I'm still on the same muthafuckin island. Fuck it! I picked up my luggage to the tunes of my man 50cent- the paper I get it.

Got my luggage and as soon as I leave the terminal Junior is waiting for me. Cool. We get in the car and start driving off. Now this is more like it. AC on blast, roads not fucked up and the scenery on the new highway to Sosua is beautiful. Wait a minute. Something's missing.

CH: Yo Junior I thought you were going to bring a honey dip for me.

Junior: Yeah sorry boss. She bailed at the last sec. Had to get up early for the drive up here and when I called she said she was too tired to roll.

CH: Well she just lost out on some bread.

Junior: Don't worry I got something for you as soon as we get into town.

We continue on our journey but had to stop in town to fill up. Problem was I had nothing but us dollars and no one would make change. And since it was Sunday alot of places like the bank was closed. Well this is an interesting development. We hit a couple stores but they wouldn't touch my money cus of all the bad fake us bills that's been floating around.

Finally we found a corner store that would change our money but they got me on the exchange rate. 34 to 1.

Junior: This is some bullshit. 34 to 1 is outrageous.

CH: I know. Sometimes you get the bear and sometime the bear gets you. Make the exchange and get me a presidente grande and let's be out.

Afterwards we got some gas and was back on the journey to Sosua with a presidente in my hand. Yeah now I can dig this.

On the way I made the call to Casa Linda. Now I didn't make any reservations with them so I was totally winging it. Figure worst case scenario I be staying at Terra Linda. The manager Chris picks up and I ask him does he have anything available.

Chris: Yeah I got Villa #4 that's a 2 bedroom. Only a $110 a night.

CH: Cool I can dig it.

Chris: Ok well by the time you arrive I'll be gone and since none of the other managers will be here I'll leave the keys to security and we'll square everything up Monday

CH: My man.

And just like that gents my lodging was totally taken care of for the rest of my stay. Now that's true customer service for that ass.

Haven't gotten any real decent sleep in the past 24 hours so I basically was passed out majority of the ride. Finally arrived to Casa Linda and sure enough the security was waiting for me. Got to the villa and the place was cool. Nice little cooze villa with the pool to get my smash on in.

After I settle in we head into town to settle the bill with me renting the car for a week with Cesa. Now last time I was here I rented from Cesa a local cat that has suv trucks. This ain't no Avis so there's no paper work what's so ever nor do I have to put my credit card on hold just incase of an accident but I wouldn't recommend my car rental situation either. Shit can get very bad real quick with this type of dealings but the situation can be just as bad for when you deal with an Avis type car rental place in DR. Soo pick your poison.

Met up with Cesa and settle the bill. He up-fronted gas money for Junior to pick me up and if you included the 9 days I'll be in town bill came to $440. Cool. Paid that and now my attentions is toward Junior.

Now Junior makes his money TOTALLY off tips! So that means he doesn't get a cut of that money I just gave Cesa

CH: Yo Junior! For your troubles.

Junior: Thanks boss.

I slid him $200usd dollars to start off with. Now I know for some I might've over paid Junior for his services but you got to understand what Junior does for me is basically what I do back home. I'm just dealing with high end clientele. But the hustles the same and I can appreciate good service.

So anyway we holla at the local street corner to exchange some pesos. Exchange rate was 37. 50 to 1usd. Not bad but I have a feeling I can get a better rate but this will do for now.

We head to my favorite cigar shop Valentinos. The German owner remembers me from last time and turns me on to some Don Leo's. Paid the tab and off we go!

Junior: Boss I got some one for you! She's around the corner waiting for us.

CH: She better not be some bullshit. You know your pickings of girls last time was suspect.

Junior: Cmon! I know what you like. She's a good clean girl. New to the game.

CH: We shall see.

We met up with the honey dip and ol my damn is she fine with a nice bubble butt. Let's call her Bubbly. Ooh your 24 and what's that your a Taurus as well. Ahh shit. Cmon here I want to kiss those soft lips. Yeah now that's the passion I've been searching for.

CH: Junior! VAMANOS.

We get to villa and I had to take a pic of that bubble.

Gave Junior some money to get some food cus I'ma need it after this workout. Now it's customary for ol coolie high to bless the pool. So as the suns goes down I'm straight SMASHN this honey bun. This is what I'm talking about. Her energy is flowing with me. I'm directing the love scene like I'm Steven Spielberg. Anything I want she submissively obliges. I'm starting to sweat while in the pool and she's moaning louder. All of a sudden.

Neighbor: HEY! YAW'll WAAY TO LOUD.

CH: I KNOW!

I wasn't stoping this love scene for no damn body. I'm in the System right now. So don't disturb this Groove. Afterwards junior came back and brought me some food and drinks to me. I didn't want to leave the pool so I ate my grub thers.

CH: Hey Junior what's that slogan of urs you always say to me.

Junior: THIS IS THEE LIFE!

Damn right it is! Man it feels soo good to be home. I got Ms. Bubbly that's not in any rush to leave, I got Junior that's handling shit properly and the weather is absolutely PERFECT! What more can I ask.

Thought about going out but for what? I'm totally satisfied at this point and it's only Sunday. I'll be here till the following Monday. So on that note gents I got my drink on and wounded up crushing Bubbly a few more times. GOD BLESS this place we call Sosua.

Trip Report Day 4: SWITCH. Coming Soon!

Orgasmico
08-22-11, 11:52
The nut job chica from Santiago. I was detained by the police because of her. She tried to steal a cell phone from an apartment, where I was staying, by pushing the cell up her pussy. Eventually the police, had her pull the cell phone out of her pussy in the street. Thereafter she complained that her pussy was hurt and said it was my fault, and the incompetent Sosua police detained me. She also tried to stab me with the switch blade she carries in her purse (she got into Classicos and After One with that knife) and she also tried to stab the watchie man at the apartment building. The incompetent, useless, Dominican judge in Sosua told ME to pay her 1000 pesos, or I would be put in jail.

I don't miss Sosua,"swim with sharks, don't be surprised if you get bit."That's one of the craziest stories I've ever read about regarding Sosua, but you have a point. Dominicans can be fiery to begin with so when you're dealing with a street rat you really have to take precautions.

Jaosousa
08-22-11, 14:39
That's one of the craziest stories I've ever read about regarding Sosua, but you have a point. Dominicans can be fiery to begin with so when you're dealing with a street rat you really have to take precautions.She is mentally not there and she has at least one kid. Part of me feels bad for her, another part of me wants to clobber her in the head, for the time and money I had to waste dealing with her insanity. BTW I was in the apartment with a chica I had invited from Bonao and a wingman brought the nut job to the apartment for drinks (while in the apartment the nutjob tried to steal the cell phone of the Bonao chica, you can see the Bonao chica holding her hand in one the photos). Some Dominicans have patience to deal with craziness, the Bonao chica and the Sosua watchie-man showed patience to the crazy santiago chica. The thief chica swore that she didn't steal the cell phone and she said search me. The cell was covered with menstrual fluid when she pulled in out of her vagina, the police didn't want to touch it.

Helpmann
08-22-11, 17:55
I don't miss Sosua,"swim with sharks, don't be surprised if you get bit."I kind of felt that way about Sosua as well, until my last trip to the DR 2-weeks ago. Until this month, I hadn't spent an evening on Pedro Clisante since 2009. Nevertheless, the 3-night trip was one of the best I've ever had. Friday night in Santo Domingo followed by Saturday and Sunday night in Sosua.

I was really amazed how much the nightlife had picked-up since my last trip to Sosua. Saturday night, after about 12am the atmosphere on Pedro Clisante reminded me of Rio, outside of the old Help disco. I do agree that Sosua attracts a lot of tigueres and I was fortunate to have Sidney by my side at the Merengue Bar both evenings (giving me the dirt on the chicas); however, I would look forward to traveling to Sosua again, if I was traveling with a few very well seasoned "single travelers," like I was on this last trip.

Cheers!
Helpmann :)

Bravo
08-22-11, 18:57
She is mentally not there and she has at least one kid. Part of me feels bad for her, another part of me wants to clobber her in the head, for the time and money I had to waste dealing with her insanity. BTW I was in the apartment with a chica I had invited from Bonao and a wingman brought the nut job to the apartment for drinks (while in the apartment the nutjob tried to steal the cell phone of the Bonao chica, you can see the Bonao chica holding her hand in one the photos). Some Dominicans have patience to deal with craziness, the Bonao chica and the Sosua watchie-man showed patience to the crazy santiago chica. The thief chica swore that she didn't steal the cell phone and she said search me. The cell was covered with menstrual fluid when she pulled in out of her vagina, the police didn't want to touch it.How did you convince the cops that the phone was up here pussy? Don't tell me you called the number and Kanye West's "Gold Digger" started playing from her panties! LOL

What in the hell did she say to the judge that made him make a judgement against you? "Your honor, if the gringo had a smaller phone, I would not have injured myself when i attempted to steal it. I should be compensated!!"

Member #4351
08-22-11, 19:21
The one on the pornhub video complains that she has stiches in her pussy and that's why she can't handle the black guy's prongus elongus.

Mr Enternational
08-22-11, 20:04
How did you convince the cops that the phone was up here pussy? Don't tell me you called the number and Kanye West's "Gold Digger" started playing from her panties! LOL.

What in the hell did she say to the judge that made him make a judgement against you?"Your honor, if the gringo had a smaller phone, I would not have injured myself when I attempted to steal it. I should be compensated!"Those are good fucking questions. Have they no shame? Not only was something wrong with the girl, but something must have been wrong with the judge as well. And to think it was a girl who he didn't even fuck. That wingman would have had my foot so far up his ass that his breath would have smelled like shoe Polish.

Hillbilly69
08-22-11, 22:07
Those are good fucking questions. Have they no shame? Not only was something wrong with the girl, but something must have been wrong with the judge as well. And to think it was a girl who he didn't even fuck. That wingman would have had my foot so far up his ass that his breath would have smelled like shoe Polish.I am surprised he didn't have to pay for lost wages too. Money laundering, drug smuggling, corruption is the standard for Dominicans. Go to www.dominicanwatchdog.org Or look into http://dominicantoday.com/ Lots of interesting facts on those 2 sites.

SanLuisMex
08-23-11, 00:24
I will be in Sosua Fri Sep 16 for 3 nights. Then a week at an AI in Puerto Plata (need the R&R, no hastle thing). I live in a Mexican border town but work in Arizona. So I negotiate for sex all the time. But for a first timer to Sosua. What is a good strategy to minimize my hastle. I mean, even here I run across the wrong girls wanting way to much all the time. I am the type that would prefer a 6 that fucks like a 10, as opposed to a 10 that fucks like a 6. Is there an out of the way bar, low-key type thing? Or should I just stick with the main ones? Or maybe any veterans going to be there that would not mind showing me around a bit.

Charlie Horse
08-23-11, 00:46
Damn right it is! Man it feels soo good to be home. I got Ms. Bubbly that's not in any rush to leave, I got Junior that's handling shit properly and the weather is absolutely PERFECT! What more can I ask.How about Irene to veer a few hundred miles north. Be safe yall, this storm looks big