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Ford
03-21-07, 13:56
Well I just came back from Sosua last week.

I stayed in an apartment.

My friends stayed in an AI(It was their 1st time there and I had warned them)

Anyhow I myself had problems visiting them as they would not let me in without a wrist band. Much less them bringing girls back to the room.

MY buddy had to pay the guy at the front off; go and come back at a certain time during the night.

....... I will onl do apatment rentals from now on this way if the woman doesnt have her Id on her it isn't a problem.

......all true WJ! I'm glad you had a nice time. :)

I've said many times on this website - All-in's are "all-out" if you want to bring guests back.

There are alot of nice condo complexes on the north coast - you don't need to go the "all-in" route to have nice accomodations.

Marc Anthony
03-21-07, 14:21
You are correct that RD$1000 is the round number that probably on balance is acceptable to most chicas much of the time as a result of negotiating. Some will accept it readily.

Keep in mind that means: if she says how much are you willing to give and you say RD$1000 she'll say NO, that's not enough.

Because negotiation is expected she will tend to ask for more than she expects to get and assume you are willing to pay more than you first offer.

If you want to pay RD$1000 you should first offer RD$500 and fully expect to be flatly rejected - then made a counter offer. You also have to be convincing that you're willing to walk. She knows your interested or you wouldn't be negotiating. If your drooling is forming a puddle at her feet she'll have some doubt's about your resolve.

If you choose not to get into negotiating and just pay whatever is asked you will both pay significantly more than un mil and make an initial impression with the chica that you are a fool and a sucker.

PP is part of the same market as Sosua and prices cover the same range for basically the same chicas. If you mean the prices for BB's or Crystal etc that's specific to the venue not the chicas. I think 1500 is a more or less standard price ST at BB's. If you met the same chica elsewhere she would likely negotiate as above.

Personally I don't see any point in negotiating anything but ST this way. I see ST as a kind of sample date to see if she's really any good past looks and basic manner. If she's not impressive you meet the ST contract and say adios. If she's a real gem you can always freely give her regalos y propinas and any negotiation for longer stay or future dates will be conducted more affectionately and easily as pillow talk.

World Jockey
03-21-07, 21:29
don't want to risk getting caught with an ****d girl.... third world prisons are a *****. also pics of **** girls can get you in trouble at customs coming back to the us.

plus most places want the cedulla and trying to bribe someone when the girl is **** is a flag... if the person is obviously of age then you may have less of a headache.+1

my 2nd to last day in sosua younger girl started talking to me not too far from my room.

i asked her how old she was and she said 18.

i asked her if she was going to the club later and she was like i can't get in i said the entry age is 18.

busted

and she knew i busted her by the look on her face.

she admitted to being only 16.

i high tailed it.

not only can you be prosecuted in the 3rd world country as you said you get serve time up here also.

not worth it imo.

plenty nice looking legal girls there.

Uzinuzin
03-22-07, 01:14
If you want to pay RD$1000 you should first offer RD$500 and fully expect to be flatly rejected - then made a counter offer. Great advice, but it depends on the time and place, in Classico if you offer RD$500 you propably get a slap in the face before she walks away and point you to all the other girls as a cheap grongo ! Might never get a chance of the counter offer.

Things are changing fast in Sosua, in 1.5 year I noticed the prices now start from RD$2000/3000 in clubs at peak time - to be fair I never paid those and negotiated but 1.5 year ago RD$1500/2000 was the starting price.

I blame pimps (chulos) for this, the so called Dominican boyfriends who now more and more hang around bars and tell the girls not to settle for less than so and so, I guess they are so loaded they say "heck, I (or my friend) can do you for RD$500..." !?

Dr Visiter
03-22-07, 14:29
When you have a chance Joe, give us a review of the place.

I Hope to Return to DR in a Week!

Helpmann ;)

www.sosuarentals.comCheck out Sousa Rentals on dr1. They are a ripoff & very dishonest

Joe Hermer
03-22-07, 22:59
Check out Sousa Rentals on dr1. They are a ripoff & very dishonest"Dr Visitor"nothing else as a childish scammer.

World Jockey
03-22-07, 23:54
You are correct that RD$1000 is the round number that probably on balance is acceptable to most chicas much of the time as a result of negotiating. Some will accept it readily.

Keep in mind that means: if she says how much are you willing to give and you say RD$1000 she'll say NO, that's not enough.

Because negotiation is expected she will tend to ask for more than she expects to get and assume you are willing to pay more than you first offer.

If you want to pay RD$1000 you should first offer RD$500 and fully expect to be flatly rejected - then made a counter offer. You also have to be convincing that you're willing to walk. She knows your interested or you wouldn't be negotiating. If your drooling is forming a puddle at her feet she'll have some doubt's about your resolve.

If you choose not to get into negotiating and just pay whatever is asked you will both pay significantly more than un mil and make an initial impression with the chica that you are a fool and a sucker.

PP is part of the same market as Sosua and prices cover the same range for basically the same chicas. If you mean the prices for BB's or Crystal etc that's specific to the venue not the chicas. I think 1500 is a more or less standard price ST at BB's. If you met the same chica elsewhere she would likely negotiate as above.

Personally I don't see any point in negotiating anything but ST this way. I see ST as a kind of sample date to see if she's really any good past looks and basic manner. If she's not impressive you meet the ST contract and say adios. If she's a real gem you can always freely give her regalos y propinas and any negotiation for longer stay or future dates will be conducted more affectionately and easily as pillow talk.Sorry for my ignorance but can you break down what st bb crystal. Means

Oh well I cn agree with you on the price negotiations it really boils down to who is more desperate and needy

The little fella in my pants or her purse. I usually average 1mil. 1500 only once did I pay 2500 and that was because the woman really really really REALLY turned me on. I doubt I would ever do that again on the flip side of that there was a girl I had been with on oher trips down there that was really doing bad ($ wise) she actually told me $200 pesos

Yea you read right $200. This girl is a mute deaf (yea laugh all you want fellas. She is a hottie LOL) and can't really communicate I had to have her punch the number in my cell phone just to make sure she was really saying $200

And on the total flip side you can find a girl that really likes you an asks for nothing. My friends first night and 1st time in DR he met a girl that only wanted him and cab fare to go home.

Helpmann
03-23-07, 00:34
Check out Sousa Rentals on dr1. They are a ripoff & very dishonestBelieve me, I've read the Villa Brigitte reviews on DR1. Nevertheless, I'm always curious to hear a new opinion, particularly when it contradicts another.

-Helpmann :)

Marc Anthony
03-23-07, 11:33
ST BB I just meant Short Time at Black Beard's. People often have in mind Blackbeard's when they refer to Puerto Plata - PP. Cristal is the strip club/casa near long beach that's higher priced and pitched to guys at playa dorada AI's. PP is a big place with price ranges the same as sosua. BB's is more a no bargaining needed fixed price venue.

Dr Visiter
03-23-07, 12:44
"Dr Visitor"nothing else as a childish scammer.The scammers are the stuckmann's. This is based on personal experience . They are overpriced (check out other places) lack customer service in addition to being untrustworthy. Ask around before you make your statements.

Bert Bongo
03-23-07, 21:53
The scammers are the stuckmann's. This is based on personal experience . They are overpriced (check out other places) lack customer service in addition to being untrustworthy. Ask around before you make your statements.You are certainly entitled to your opinions (as I am entitled to disagree with them and have differing ones) but "Villa Brigitte" is marketed as a value location and delivers what it promises - quality vacation villas and apartments for adults. When somebody run a business over 12 years in Sosua with great success – I don’t think they can be “dishonest……..”

This is based on personal experience, too.

Man Can Bang
03-24-07, 00:32
Hey Fella,

Im going back to Sosua 5/26---6/3 and I been reading the update on all your posts. It will be helpful for the Mongers who confuse with the 1,000, 1,500..ect pesos.

Will someone explain what a 1, 5, 10, 25, 50, 100 US dollars mean in pesos. I forgot.

==============================================

Hi Man Can Bang,

Forum contributors rarely provide the conversion rates because foreign currency rates change all the time.

You rbest bet is to lookup the current conversion rate at any one of a number of websites that are designed for this purpose.

Here's a few popular ones:

http://www.oanda.com/convert/classic

http://finance.yahoo.com/currency/

http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/currencies/americas_currencies.html

Thnaks,

Jackson

Bert Bongo
03-24-07, 12:51
The scammers are the stuckmann's. This is based on personal experience . They are overpriced (check out other places) lack customer service in addition to being untrustworthy. Ask around before you make your statements.Who is dishonest?

In the DR1 forum you stated that you rented a condo.

In another forum now you stated that you rented a beach house.

DrVisitor, don’t waste our time and get lost.

Lets close this thread, we are here to discuss other stuff.

Sidney
03-24-07, 16:18
Update, my Haiti hottie has been very pissed because I fuk many other chicas. Finally we have reached an accomodation--- I can only fuk her or her 4 friends! No newbies. Yeah right!

Escort King
03-24-07, 19:15
I use this converter www.gocurrency.com

Dr Visiter
03-25-07, 12:33
Who is dishonest?

In the DR1 forum you stated that you rented a condo.

In another forum now you stated that you rented a beach house.

DrVisitor, don’t waste our time and get lost.

Lets close this thread, we are here to discuss other stuff.It is advertized as a beach house but is 1/4 mile to the beach so I call it a condo now.

The point stands the place is overpriced & stuckmann's are dishonest & do not know the first thing about Customer Service. Get with the facts not unfounded proclmations.

What do you want to discuss?

Bold Focker
03-26-07, 01:50
I have been reading the forum regarding hotels.
the three hotel that appear faverite are:
Europa
New Gardens
Varamar
What I cant find is any website to book these hotel or any reference to what these hotels cost per night or per week.
do any of them have Wi-Fi internet access.
A detailed report would be good on these three hotels giving:
price
location which is best for action!
Facilities, safe, internet, Wi-fi, non smoking restaurant or bar, GF or joiners fee for guest, AC,
distance from air port and transport available. read taxi about 1000dr
what about bus.
how do i book? anyone got email address?
any help appreciated!
Anyone with recommendations for other hotels!

BF

Escort King
03-26-07, 02:17
I have been reading the forum regarding hotels.
the three hotel that appear faverite are:
Europa
New Gardens
Varamar
What I cant find is any website to book these hotel or any reference to what these hotels cost per night or per week.
do any of them have Wi-Fi internet access.
A detailed report would be good on these three hotels giving:
price
location which is best for action!
Facilities, safe, internet, Wi-fi, non smoking restaurant or bar, GF or joiners fee for guest, AC,
distance from air port and transport available. read taxi about 1000dr
what about bus.
how do i book? anyone got email address?
any help appreciated!
Anyone with recommendations for other hotels!

BF

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=365822&postcount=202

Helpmann
03-26-07, 02:20
I have been reading the forum regarding hotels.
the three hotel that appear faverite are:
Europa
New Gardens
VaramarThis should get you started.

-Helpmann :)

http://hotelplazaeuropa.com/english/start.html
http://www.voramar-sosua.com/indexenglish.htm

Mr Majik
03-26-07, 02:36
Back to mongering and away from personal accusations.

Prices really depend on your formula: that is, what do you look like, how much Spanish you speak, and how are your negotiating skills? I was in the DR last month and I got the same deaf mute in a previous post.- not for the outrageous price of $150/200, but for $60 and a ride home in the morning. (And yes.- she is very sexy) She even wanted me to come up to meet her kid.- all of course, because I'm a relatively young, athletic American who speaks Spanish. The next night I had a girl for free. Mostly because I played hard to get, danced with her all night, and paid for the part-timer hotel.

I've been to the DR at least 20 times; I've been quiet on the board but I have a lot of tips and here are a couple of my survival tips. I'll give more later:

1. STICK TO THE NORTH COAST: Sosua is good for "spoon fed" mongers who care about their wallet. Here are my ratings for the major cities in the DR (in descending order):

Quality of Women: Santiago, Santo Domingo, Puerto Plata, Sosua, and finally Boca Chica: Not to say that Boca Chica is weak by any means (certainly not as weak as the Boca Chica board on ISG seems to indicate), but this is still the DR and the women are still Dominican. The quality is good, but not as good you would perhaps see in Santo Domingo or Santiago. Santiago is the haven for beautiful lighter-skinned women, but availability is more limited.

Availability of Women: Sosua, Boca Chica, Santo Domingo, Puerto Plata, and Santiago: The women are in Sosua are by far the most accessible in all of the country. Sure, there are night clubs in Santo Domingo and Puerto Plata, but virtually every woman you see in Sosua is available for action. Boca Chica and Puerto Plata have discos where almost all women are available and Santiago has its share of other venues. However, the venues in Santiago have come under scrutiny in recent months and are not as open as you may think. I favor the casinos in SD (particularly the Jaragua) but by far, the best place for open-air day and night time mongering is Sosua.

Pricing: Sosua, Boca Chica, Puerto Plata, Santiago, Santo Domingo: Just like any other market-driven economy, DR women operate on supply and demand in most cases. You will find that prices in Sosua can be much less than those in Santo Domingo. But trust me, in some locations.- the able monger can get away with 1000 pesos or less in the right situation. Many advertise that they have gotten free play in the DR, but many can be discounted as bravado. Just my humble opinion. Of course, I fall in this category, but I look.- and sound Dominican so my situation is different from the typical American.

2. BE CAREFUL AND AWARE OF YOUR SURROUNDINGS. You have to remember that almost every Dominican has the somewhat troublesome impression that All Americans have a pocket full of money and a bucket of gold at home. This is troublesome because they expect you to pay the retail price for all transactions. I took a motoconcho once and the driver told me he would charge me 300 pesos for a 100 peso ride because I was American and could afford it. This is how many Dominicans think. So, while you want to represent a good, clean-cut, and fairly well-dressed image.- don't over do it. It can get you in trouble for a Dominican (or Haitian) who doesn't know where their next meal is coming from. Also, you DO NOT WANT TO GO TO A DOMINICAN JAIL. There are no beds or meals.- people in Dominican jails have to rely on friends or family to bring in meals every day. Otherwise, it's a dog-eat-dog world. And if you have not friends/family in the DR.-- Forgetit. I won't go into the prison situation for you individuals who like "younger" women. Just be careful and represent our country well.

More later. Feel free to PM me if you have questions.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Marc Anthony
03-26-07, 03:09
Europa & New Garden are in town near the action. Voramar is further out and requires taking motos a lot. You can review the websites for most details.

All are guest friendly. At Europa a fee is charged for more than 1 guest at a time. I know Europa has electronic in-room safe at no extra charge, good a/c with no special card control, cable, back-up power. The restaurant, Quixotes, has wi-fi but I don't think the hotel does. You can book Europa or Voramar by email no deposit.

In season they are about $50 a night, off season - after April 15th or so they are less.

The Gregorio Luperon airport (POP) is less than 10km away. $15-20 taxi, or walk to the highway .5km and get a GuaGua or publico for 50 pesos or so.

Check out DR1 or google it.

Johan007
03-26-07, 17:25
The voramar seems decent...cheap...and safe..Does any of you gents know the inroom safe is large enough to keep a Laptop??

The car rentals are Cheap!!!!!!!!! what a treat compared to Santo Domingo!!! wow

I assume the Voramar is chica friendly???;-)

TIA

Johan

Sidney
03-26-07, 18:13
Stayed there several times. Henk +Harold will treat you right. Say Ben(Chily) spoke highly about the hotel.---------------------------New Garden is ok, but very ''clicky'' Italian. Food service is very slow. Hotel very convenient. ------------Europa=forget.

Johan007
03-26-07, 18:18
Stayed there several times. Henk +Harold will treat you right. Say Ben(Chily) spoke highly about the hotel.---------------------------New Garden is ok, but very ''clicky'' Italian. Food service is very slow. Hotel very convenient. ------------Europa=forget.

Henk and Harold??? Is the Voramar run by Dutch or Germans???:-)

If I am corerct...do they also offer a pick up service at POP airport??

thanks Chily...i think i will book today and stay a week or so before i am off to SD.

Johan

Bold Focker
03-26-07, 18:42
Once i have booked flight, I will book one hotel for a few days and then move around and try them all!
If anyone has the web site for new garden hotel, it would be good but i can look once i get there, so no big problem.

Escort King
03-26-07, 19:06
Once i have booked flight, I will book one hotel for a few days and then move around and try them all!
If anyone has the web site for new garden hotel, it would be good but i can look once i get there, so no big problem.

http://www.a3tnet.com/bluedolphin.htm
http://www.travellero.it/hotel_673
http://www.voramar-sosua.com/english/index.html
http://www.oneoceanplace.com/
http://www.hotelplazaeuropa.com/pla...titel-engl.html
http://www.rockysbar.com/index.html
http://www.sosuapalace.com/
http://www.villachessahotel.com/index.htm

Berthold
03-26-07, 19:18
Henk and Harold??? Is the Voramar run by Dutch or Germans???:-)

If I am corerct...do they also offer a pick up service at POP airport??

thanks Chily...i think i will book today and stay a week or so before i am off to SD.

Johan

Harald is orginally from luxembourg and henk is from the netherlands. There is also another guy from germany called patrick who is really nice and takes care of you. The voramar offers airport pickup, one the 3 dudes will pick you up and bring you pack to the airport.

Member #4643
03-31-07, 15:47
I have read the board, and cannot find a girl-friendly hotel in SOSUA with in the room internet access. I have read that not all hotels are girl friendly, so Expedia.com is not the way to find a hotel.

Any suggestions? Please help!

Pana Nyc
03-31-07, 17:09
I have read the board, and cannot find a girl-friendly hotel in SOSUA with in the room internet access. I have read that not all hotels are girl friendly, so Expedia.com is not the way to find a hotel.

Any suggestions? Please help!
There are chica friendly hotels in Sosua and you are going to find them searching through Expedia. The Hotels are the Europa, New Garden, Voramar, Clud Residential, and other smaller hotels that are cheaper than these. I dont most of these hotels offer internet room access, just go down to Rockys sit down and have a meal or something to eat and you will all the internet you will want.

Fantasy
03-31-07, 17:24
Three permenant residents at club resedential use wireless and have not blocked the signal. In most rooms there you can pick it up. Europa has a cafe where the owner will let you use internet if you buy anything, even a soda. He will even supply you with a laptop.
But unless you must work while you are there, make use of the internet cafes that are on every corner. I have met some stunners while using them, and it gives you a destination during the day. La roca (one of my favorite eating holes) also offers free wireless internet, and has two computers onsite to check email.

Berthold
03-31-07, 19:06
I have read the board, and cannot find a girl-friendly hotel in SOSUA with in the room internet access. I have read that not all hotels are girl friendly, so Expedia.com is not the way to find a hotel.

Any suggestions? Please help!

The hotel voramar has wirless internet access in the bar area. The signal was very strong and when i was there in february i could use the internet in my room too without problems.

Methos
04-01-07, 05:58
I read some posts a few pages back talking about Viagra. One says they aren't allowed to sell it over the counter anymore as of January 07 and a couple that said they still were at that time. Are there any updates about this?

I found a good airfare to POP for next Thursday. If it's still there on Monday and I can get the time approved, I'm going.

How is Sosua over the Easter holiday? Are there a lot less girls around?

I'm also going to email a couple of the recommended hotels and check on availability.

Thanks in advance,

Methos

Sidney
04-01-07, 14:23
and New Garden

Danesi77
04-01-07, 15:10
Have any of you staid at Las Canas? Are they chica friendly? Would you also please recommend something similar in Cabarete ? Been few times to SD, time now to explore the North Coast.

Thank You all for all your contributions, as a relative newbie your posts helped me a lot in SD.

Ford
04-01-07, 19:42
There are chica friendly hotels in Sosua and you are going to find them searching through Expedia. The Hotels are the Europa, New Garden, Voramar, Clud Residential, and other smaller hotels that are cheaper than these. I dont most of these hotels offer internet room access, just go down to Rockys sit down and have a meal or something to eat and you will all the internet you will want.

The restaurant attached to The Europa w/ free internet access for customers is called Don Quixote's.
Its independently owned by a guy from upstate New York. I liked him, but I can see how he can be alittle gruff at times.

However, I was laughing my ass off when I saw the attched video. This guy did an absolute "hatchet-job" on him. This is one very, very funny video! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkcvvyG0WeM

Pana NYC- its funny you mention the "guest friendly" hotels and then separately mention that Rocky's is a good place for the internet. Isn't Rocky's a well-known "guest friendly" place? Or has their policy changed? I've never stayed there but I know guys who swear by it.

cheers mates............

Sidney
04-01-07, 22:28
Very chica friendly = no docs, no holding docs!

Tom Gueguen
04-02-07, 01:27
Very chica friendly = no docs, no holding docs!What do you mean?

Leo 3131
04-02-07, 03:42
Where in the Dominican Republic can you get adult video?

Victor Lazlo
04-02-07, 04:13
i think he means they don't check or hold the girl's id. that can be a good or bad thing, good mostly for someone with an **** girl or possibly a haitiana without proper documentation.

in some hotels, if a girl leaves solo, reception will call your room to make sure everything is ok before they will return her cedula. i've had that happen when the girl in question was a long time amiga and not a casual pickup. it was unnecessary, but i still appreciated the fact that they were looking out for me.

Marc Anthony
04-02-07, 17:03
Where is the Calipso hotel/cabana? Anyone been there recently?

Danesi77
04-02-07, 23:33
Do you think that I would need to rent a car? Any ideea of how much would a cabbie charge? Which would you choose (you all know the criterias), Casa Linda or Las Canas? Two of us will be there from Apr 21st to Apr 29th, would love to get together for few Presidente.

Zip Head
04-03-07, 04:48
The Calypso is on one of the side streets off the main street. (I know that sounds lame but don't know the exact street.) Not hard to find and anyone on the street can give you exact directions.

Last time I used it (about a year ago) they had short time rooms for 300 RD for an hour or so. I think they had an all night rate, too.

The rooms are OK, nothing glamorous, a bit austere even. Bed, sheets, bathroom, towels and air conditioning.

The owners do not require ID from the girls. Be smart.

Ponderosa
04-03-07, 10:12
Do you think that I would need to rent a car? Any ideea of how much would a cabbie charge? Which would you choose (you all know the criterias), Casa Linda or Las Canas? Two of us will be there from Apr 21st to Apr 29th, would love to get together for few Presidente.

As far as the rental car goes, if this is your first trip down to the DR I would not suggest it. Get a lay of the land on your first trip and once you feel comfortable with the way they drive down here you should be ok.

Caribe has busses that do the trip. http://www.caribetours.com.do/

Berthold
04-03-07, 14:50
Where is the Calipso hotel/cabana? Anyone been there recently?

Walk from Classico towards the disco called Searcrets, pass Searcrets and take the second street on the left. The hotel is on the right hand side of that street.
I was there in February and March 2007 several times with a girl who did not have id. One hour or st is 300 pesos and toda la noche is 700 pesos. The room was okay but the bathroom was disgusting.

Sidney
04-03-07, 23:53
Almost next door, behind Super, Super Liquors.

Helpmann
04-04-07, 14:27
Yes, not much of a comparison; however, it's still necessary to put the information out there. Because, tastes and P4P ranges vary for both the DR and Rio, sexual appeal and pussy prices will not be compared. Pussy can be bought for US$15 and US$100 in both countries and there are plenty of photos on the internet to give guys an idea of what's out there.

That said, Sosua is not a good proxy for Rio; however, "Classicos" disco is a good proxy for "Help" disco (just a smaller version.) If you like Help disco in Rio, you'll like Classicos. Nevertheless, there are some issues with Sosua and with the DR.

-Helpmann :)

DOWNSIDE (DR):
1. Su-Th. clubs that serve alcohol are now legally obligated to close down at 12am. (Fr & Sa: 2am)
2. You will never find the professionalism of a Rio hooker. There are no reliable escort services in DR. Sexual services provided can vary drastically for different men, who use the the same girl.
3. Women not as sexually experienced (much less anal)
4. Sosua is an ugly city with an ugly beach.
5. No termas.
6. Many taxi drivers outside of Santo Domingo are cheats and thieves. A rental car is highly recommended.


UPSIDE (DR):
1. Some clubs seem to have a way of bypassing this law ("Mangu" in Playa Dorado stays open until 5am and "Playa Chiquita," a casino w/ a disco in Sosua, stays open until 4am.)
2. NO COUNTER. Who want's a pro providing GFE?
3. NO COUNTER. Just take it. Gazelles are passive and take what is given to them.
4. Cabarete and Boca Chica have good beaches. Bayahibe and Punta Cana have beautiful beaches; however, fewer women.
5. NO COUNTER. Santo Domingo does have massage parlors and wh0re houses, but nothing like 4x4.
6. NO COUNTER. Car rental's are $35-$80/day (depending on time of year and make.)
*7. If leaving from NYC, direct flights are 3.5 hours.
*8. North Coast lodging and food are cheaper than Rio. (ex. 2-bedroom villas w/ private pool for US$105.)

DR Monger II
04-04-07, 20:49
There are no direct flights from nyc, only from Newark (Continental).

Ford
04-04-07, 21:42
There are no direct flights from nyc, only from Newark (Continental).

........low and behold, DR Monger II is right on! AA has stopped their direct servive from NYC. I spent many hours on that JFK-POP direct shot...it was great! It was originally cut down from 7 days a week, to 3 and now us New Yawkers (lol) have to fly thru MIA or SJU to get to POP. :(

(less flights, higher fees)

Dr Visiter
04-05-07, 11:23
Have any of you staid at Las Canas? Are they chica friendly? Would you also please recommend something similar in Cabarete ? Been few times to SD, time now to explore the North Coast.

Thank You all for all your contributions, as a relative newbie your posts helped me a lot in SD.What's tour take on SD. Hotels Chicas prices. In Cabarete try the road to the caves for chicas

Frannie
04-05-07, 15:41
Yes, not much of a comparison; however, it's still necessary to put the information out there. Because, tastes and P4P ranges vary for both the DR and Rio, sexual appeal and pussy prices will not be compared. Pussy can be bought for US$15 and US$100 in both countries and there are plenty of photos on the internet to give guys an idea of what's out there.

That said, Sosua is not a good proxy for Rio; however, "Classicos" disco is a good proxy for "Help" disco (just a smaller version.) If you like Help disco in Rio, you'll like Classicos. Nevertheless, there are some issues with Sosua and with the DR.

-Helpmann :)

DOWNSIDE (DR):
1. Su-Th. clubs that serve alcohol are now legally obligated to close down at 12am. (Fr & Sa: 2am)
2. You will never find the professionalism of a Rio hooker. There are no reliable escort services in DR. Sexual services provided can vary drastically for different men, who use the the same girl.
3. Women not as sexually experienced (much less anal)
4. Sosua is an ugly city with an ugly beach.
5. No termas.
6. Many taxi drivers outside of Santo Domingo are cheats and thieves. A rental car is highly recommended.

UPSIDE (DR):
1. Some clubs seem to have a way of bypassing this law ("Mangu" in Playa Dorado stays open until 5am and "Playa Chiquita," a casino w/ a disco in Sosua, stays open until 4am.)
2. NO COUNTER. Who want's a pro providing GFE?
3. NO COUNTER. Just take it. Gazelles are passive and take what is given to them.
4. Cabarete and Boca Chica have good beaches. Bayahibe and Punta Cana have beautiful beaches; however, fewer women.
5. NO COUNTER. Santo Domingo does have massage parlors and wh0re houses, but nothing like 4x4.
6. NO COUNTER. Car rental's are $35-$80/day (depending on time of year and make.)
*7. If leaving from NYC, direct flights are 3.5 hours.
*8. North Coast lodging and food are cheaper than Rio. (ex. 2-bedroom villas w/ private pool for US$105.)it is silly to compare a small town in the DR with a major world city, however, even so your comparison is slanted. I would make the following points.

1. Sosua is 1 hour and 40 mins flying from Miami. Brazil is down by the Equator.

2. Spanish is spoken in the DR. Many of us speak Spanish--Spanish is spoken in many countries and by many people in the US, so is worth learning. Portuguese is spoken in Brazil--most of us don't speak it.

3. Sosua Beach is a pleasant place to spend a few hours, eat a meal, have a drink, and watch the people go by. It has great views across to the mountains behind Puerto Plata. If you want a broad, sandy beach for $1you can take a local taxi to Cabarete 5 miles away.

4. Although the girls may be "less professional" than in Rio and may perform better with some clients than with others, this is what many of us like--it is called spontaneity.

5. It is true that most Sosua girls don't favor anal sex, but what has this to do with sexual experience? I don't like anal sex and I have plenty of experience.

6. The closing of the bars and discos at midnight on weekdays is an inconvenience, but if you are a serious alcoholic you can always stock your hotel room with liquor.

7. Sosua is conveniently small. You can walk everywhere and never use motorized transport. It has a good selection of decent restaurants and bars, Internet cafes, etc.

8. Sosua doesn't have the brothels and termas that Rio has, but then again, there is a good selection of girls and you can have sex with as many attractive young women as you like, so what do you want?

I am sure that Rio offers the visitor a fantastic experience, but I'm not sure there is any point comparing it to Sosua. However, I have no doubt that if your pursuit of happiness revolves around anal sex and round-the-clock alcohol, you will be happier in Brazil.

Bold Focker
04-05-07, 19:36
Before anyone starts i have RTFF, well as much as time permitts.
I am coming to Sausa on the 16th April. can someone post full details of BB.
Is it a hotel as well?
How much are the rooms if so? dio they have safes?
How far is it from sausa and PP?
ST = DR1500 how much is LT?
Can you just go for drinks? or do you have to be resident?
How many girls do they have there?
Is it on the beach?

I will be staying at Rockys on the 16th, if anyone wants to meet up for a beer!
I read somewhere Rockys is not good for bringing girls back! why is that?



ST BB I just meant Short Time at Black Beard's. People often have in mind Blackbeard's when they refer to Puerto Plata - PP. Cristal is the strip club/casa near long beach that's higher priced and pitched to guys at playa dorada AI's. PP is a big place with price ranges the same as sosua. BB's is more a no bargaining needed fixed price venue.

Frannie
04-05-07, 20:42
Before anyone starts i have RTFF, well as much as time permitts.

I am coming to Sausa on the 16th April. can someone post full details of BB.

Is it a hotel as well?

How much are the rooms if so? dio they have safes?

How far is it from sausa and PP?

ST = DR1500 how much is LT?

Can you just go for drinks? or do you have to be resident?

How many girls do they have there?

Is it on the beach?

I will be staying at Rockys on the 16th, if anyone wants to meet up for a beer!
I read somewhere Rockys is not good for bringing girls back! why is that?Try looking up the Blackbeard's Adult Resort Web page. They have an FAQ or you can e-mail them for information--or phone them.

Yanqui69
04-05-07, 21:18
BB's IS a hotel, not "officially" a brothel, -they will point out that they don't employ the girls, that they are "independent contractors" which they screen and permit to ply their trade there.
(Although THEY are the ONLY reason guests go to BB, of course).
Check the website for details.
blackbeardsadultresort.com
Rooms vary from multi-BR suites, to singles, so prices start at about $50US.
Rooms have safes.
PP is about 6-8 miles/ 10-15 min by taxi.
Sosua (about) 20 miles, 45 min. by taxi ($40US)
ST 1300 pesos, TLN/overnight about 2500 pesos.
The Costambar beach (small, islolated, but nice, not as busy and commercial-dominated as Sosua) is about 5 minutes walk away.
Yes, you can go just to drink or eat. Some locals do.

Girls total around 40-45, though don't expect them ALL to be there at the same time, nor wasting their time hanging around if there are no guests present at the time.
One can discuss their desires with Charo (mama-san) or her assistant to call a girl from home if the selection at the time isn't sufficient.
One can also "bring your own" from outside as long as they can produce an ID and haven't been banned from the place for some reason.


Before anyone starts i have RTFF, well as much as time permitts.
I am coming to Sausa on the 16th April. can someone post full details of BB.
Is it a hotel as well?
How much are the rooms if so? dio they have safes?
How far is it from sausa and PP?
ST = DR1500 how much is LT?
Can you just go for drinks? or do you have to be resident?
How many girls do they have there?
Is it on the beach?

I will be staying at Rockys on the 16th, if anyone wants to meet up for a beer!
I read somewhere Rockys is not good for bringing girls back! why is that?

Jacques52
04-05-07, 21:53
I am a new member, did not know about this group until yesterday.

I will be staying in La Catalina Hotel in Cabrera. I am stuck, my reservations are made.

Any action down that way.

If not, what about Puerto Plata, Sosua, Boca Rica.

Wich is the most interesting? the safest?

Thank you for your help.

Marc Anthony
04-06-07, 00:12
Yes you can just stop in for a drink to check the place out. If available they have been known to rent rooms for ST only.

Rocky's is chica friendly.

Danesi77
04-06-07, 02:17
What's tour take on SD. Hotels Chicas prices. In Cabarete try the road to the caves for chicasI was with my SD chica all the time, so I didn't have space to monger, but I've seen some stunning girls at the Barcelo Lina casino.

Ford
04-06-07, 04:42
I am a new member, did not know about this group until yesterday.

I will be staying in La Catalina Hotel in Cabrera. I am stuck, my reservations are made.

Any action down that way.

If not, what about Puerto Plata, Sosua, Boca Rica.

Wich is the most interesting? the safest?

Thank you for your help.

Jacques 52,

The Town of Cabrera is located in Sanchez Province, on the northeast section of the country. I've driven thru it 2x on my way out to Samana, can't say anything about it particulary sticks out in my mind. I have found that depending (of course) on your ability to converse in Spanish "our type of activities" are available in almost every single town in the country! Its much more available in some places then others and depending on the specifics of your trip (wife's with you, have the kids, only have limited time free) you may not want to waste alot of time "digging" around and searching.

Don't go east from your hotel but rather west back towards Sosua/Cabarete. If you travel further east, all you're going to see is the dilapidated Town of Sanchez, and Samana (alot of digging) Bars, mp's are all over Sosua and have in-call, or out-call options for you. You could drive from Cabrera to Sosua in 40 minutes. You could probably do it even quicker but that road is notoriously always "washed out" and as I recall it (at times)it has potholes so big you could loose a Volkswagen in one. ;)

You should probably direct specific questions about the Town of Cabrera to the "other areas" thread as it is really not all that close to Sosua. Too, I'm going to go out a very long limb here and assume that you meant Boca Chica? (Never heard of Boca Rica) (lol) ......Boca Chica is on the south coast, quite a drive from your hotel and truly not worth it!

Welcome to the board, enjoy your trip and post of your experiences!

cheers.............

Bahai
04-06-07, 06:18
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacques52

I am a new member, did not know about this group until yesterday.

I will be staying in La Catalina Hotel in Cabrera. I am stuck, my reservations are made.

Any action down that way.

If not, what about Puerto Plata, Sosua, Boca Rica.

Wich is the most interesting? the safest?

Thank you for your help.

Jacques 52

I am at La Catalina beginning the 13th. Golfing Playa Grande. Happy to team up for a trip or two to Sosua.

Helpmann
04-06-07, 22:57
it is silly to compare a small town in the DR with a major world city, however, even so your comparison is slanted. I would make the following points.

1. Sosua is 1 hour and 40 mins flying from Miami. Brazil is down by the Equator.Flying time addressed in #7.


2. Spanish is spoken in the DR. Many of us speak Spanish--Spanish is spoken in many countries and by many people in the US, so is worth learning. Portuguese is spoken in Brazil--most of us don't speak it.Most Americans speak English and that's about it. For many Americans, it makes no difference if the language is Spanish, Portuguese, or Thai.


3. Sosua Beach is a pleasant place to spend a few hours, eat a meal, have a drink, and watch the people go by. It has great views across to the mountains behind Puerto Plata. If you want a broad, sandy beach for $1you can take a local taxi to Cabarete 5 miles away.Sosua is a small town with an ugly beach.


4. Although the girls may be "less professional" than in Rio and may perform better with some clients than with others, this is what many of us like--it is called spontaneity.Brazil offers both.


5. It is true that most Sosua girls don't favor anal sex, but what has this to do with sexual experience? I don't like anal sex and I have plenty of experience.A girl who can't take a cock in her ass, isn't up to Helpmann's standards.


6. The closing of the bars and discos at midnight on weekdays is an inconvenience, but if you are a serious alcoholic you can always stock your hotel room with liquor.This is Latin America!! The party doesn't start until 1am; however, the DR discos and bars close down at 12am. This only benefits the AARP crowd, cheap pussy preceded by the "early bird" dinner special.


7. Sosua is conveniently small. You can walk everywhere and never use motorized transport. It has a good selection of decent restaurants and bars, Internet cafes, etc.Yes, Copacabana has none of these things :rolleyes:


8. Sosua doesn't have the brothels and termas that Rio has, but then again, there is a good selection of girls and you can have sex with as many attractive young women as you like, so what do you want?Termas, brothels, and pussy 24/7.


I am sure that Rio offers the visitor a fantastic experience, but I'm not sure there is any point comparing it to Sosua. However, I have no doubt that if your pursuit of happiness revolves around anal sex and round-the-clock alcohol, you will be happier in Brazil.It sounds like you have never been to Rio; therefore, you're speaking out of your ass.

-Helpmann :)

Escort King
04-06-07, 23:28
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacques52

I am a new member, did not know about this group until yesterday.

I will be staying in La Catalina Hotel in Cabrera. I am stuck, my reservations are made.

Any action down that way.

If not, what about Puerto Plata, Sosua, Boca Rica.

Wich is the most interesting? the safest?

Thank you for your help.

Jacques 52

I am at La Catalina beginning the 13th. Golfing Playa Grande. Happy to team up for a trip or two to Sosua.

you are not far from PoP and the upscale places and the car washes have on premises places to rip one off

Pana Nyc
04-07-07, 09:18
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacques52

I am a new member, did not know about this group until yesterday.

I will be staying in La Catalina Hotel in Cabrera. I am stuck, my reservations are made.

Any action down that way.

If not, what about Puerto Plata, Sosua, Boca Rica.

Wich is the most interesting? the safest?

Thank you for your help.

Jacques 52

I am at La Catalina beginning the 13th. Golfing Playa Grande. Happy to team up for a trip or two to Sosua.
Dude you are an hour away from Puerto Plata and Sousa, and like 5 hours away from Boca Chica. Do you speak spanish? If not than your best bet is to hook up with a local Dominicano to introduce you to semi-pros, pros, non-pors in Cabrera or near by town Rio San Juan or Nagua depending where your guide is from. Since you are going to be in these small towns dont pay a chica no more than 1000RD for her time, and the guide just buy him meals and drinks and you should be good in that aspect. Hook up with a Dominicano who works at the place that you will be staying and he should be able to hook you up and introduce you to chicas if you dont speak spanish.

Yanqui69
04-07-07, 15:26
Dude you are an hour away from Puerto Plata and Sousa, and like 5 hours away from Boca Chica. Do you speak spanish? If not than your best bet is to hook up with a local Dominicano to introduce you to semi-pros, pros, non-pors in Cabrera or near by town Rio San Juan or Nagua depending where your guide is from. Since you are going to be in these small towns dont pay a chica no more than 1000RD for her time, and the guide just buy him meals and drinks and you should be good in that aspect. Hook up with a Dominicano who works at the place that you will be staying and he should be able to hook you up and introduce you to chicas if you dont speak spanish.

Try to hook up with a trustworthy taxicab driver.
They usually have a few girls they can link you up with.
As stated, buy him a beer and a snack and have him hook you up.
(Just keep your wits about you, just in case he's not.)

Sidney
04-07-07, 16:04
Impossible to sleep=party, party, roosters all night, motos, loud talking!

Sidney
04-07-07, 16:18
My car is rear-ended. I get out my car to talk with the driver. He flees the scene. I get car type and plate #. Report to Policia. They could care less. They spend 30 min. writing a report. Much interrogation of me! Very little interest in the other car or apprehension. Then refuse to give me a copy of the report for my rental car company and insurance company unless i bribe them!

Yanqui69
04-08-07, 00:55
My car is rear-ended. I get out my car to talk with the driver. He flees the scene. I get car type and plate #. Report to Policia. They could care less. They spend 30 min. writing a report. Much interrogation of me! Very little interest in the other car or apprehension. Then refuse to give me a copy of the report for my rental car company and insurance company unless i bribe them!

An example of why the DR will suffer for years to come. Corruption.

I had a similar experience, but I was able to submit a written statement to the rental company. My credit card covered my damage and I submitted the claim to them for reimbursement. Everything went fine.
One reason I always use a national-level US rental car company, never a local or small-time company.

Crossfire1
04-08-07, 14:53
Impossible to sleep=party, party, roosters all night, motos, loud talking!

I never heard of anyone doing TLN Los Charomincos. I like to hear the story on this one.

Bold Focker
04-09-07, 00:15
Is it possible to buy a local sim for a mobile phone in Sausa? and how much are they?

Sidney
04-09-07, 00:47
No hotels were available. Chica is my regular. We decided to go to her place at the far West end of town, then at least 2 city blocks downhill , on a skinny lane. All houses were side-by-side like a barrio. All night you could hear motos, some on the skinny path. Everyone must raise chickens, the noise never stopped. We could hear parties all night. The very early in the morning the families started rising. Every word could be heard especially, the very bossy mothers. And a drunk driver rear-ended my car, then fled the scene! Never again!

Dpilzbo
04-09-07, 00:48
Hello forum members. I am planning a last minute trip to DR since my return trip to Quito has been put on hold. POP (BB's) and/or Sosua were of interest. Does anyone have any recent info or comments about Hotel Voramar? It looks very chica friendly based on the web site and I did see it mentioned here in the Sosua section but it doesn't have the following as say. BB in POP. Should I take that as a sign that it isn't good. LOL. Thanks in advance. By the way, I hope to visit the end of this month into the first week of May. I will keep checking the forum for any of you other members that will be there and maybe we can get together for a drink and compare notes.

Bq Ribs
04-09-07, 01:19
Is it possible to buy a local sim for a mobile phone in Sausa? and how much are they?There is an Orange phone center on Alejo Martinez (sp). The cost is 350 pesos.

Member #4643
04-09-07, 04:19
Hello forum members. I am planning a last minute trip to DR since my return trip to Quito has been put on hold. POP (BB's) and/or Sosua were of interest. Does anyone have any recent info or comments about Hotel Voramar? It looks very chica friendly based on the web site and I did see it mentioned here in the Sosua section but it doesn't have the following as say. BB in POP. Should I take that as a sign that it isn't good. LOL. Thanks in advance. By the way, I hope to visit the end of this month into the first week of May. I will keep checking the forum for any of you other members that will be there and maybe we can get together for a drink and compare notes.

Voramar is very chica friendly, but doesn't officially invite the P4P ladies to hang our there. This is not like BB with fixed prices etc. Just very very chica friendly. Officially, all of the women are supposed to have their cedulas, but this policy is not enforced. The bar is opened 24 h per day, and at least half the girls who work there will see you when they are not working (the best looking girl, however, wouldn't even talk to me after she watched me bring back 4 different girls in my first 8 hours there. There was some element of professional pride, I guess).

At night, there are some girls who hang at the bar to pick up some business. Only one of them was not fat and ugly, but she was no beauty either (her BBBJ was top par, proving once again that beauty is overrated). I did see a few girls at 8 am who were leaving the hotel; these girls were available if you were ready and quick to beat out the other guys who were waiting around.

My biggest problem with the hotel is that it is not near the city center. This would be fine if it were quiet (this is, after all, why you do not hang out in the city). But the bar is open all night long, and there is latin music blaring 24/7. Why not stay at the Europa under the circumstances? Its a bit of a pain to be taking the motoconcho into town whenever you want pussy. And frankly, the motoconchos were not all that pleasant. That being said, I discovered a great way to find semi pros was to tell a motoconcho guy you want to cruise and find a beautiful girl, Any girl you point out, he will ask them if they are interested in fucking you. You would be surprised how many girls will say yes, even though they are not really prostitutes.

The owners are great guys, incidentally. There is internet access most of the time if you bring a computer with Wi Fi capabilities. They also exchange money at rates that are not a ripoff.

One more thing: comparing Sosua to Rio is like comparing Peoria to Paris. But there is plenty of P4P, and many of the girls available are quite beautiful despite their lack of sophistication. If you are vacationing for sex alone, its not a bad place. If you are expecting a beautiful beach and beauitiful girls, forget it. Find a chica in Sosua and take your girl to an all inclusive resort with its private beach (registering her when you check in). The public beaches are pure third world fare (although not bad for finding sex).

Berthold
04-09-07, 10:35
Voramar is very chica friendly, but doesn't officially invite the P4P ladies to hang our there. This is not like BB with fixed prices etc. Just very very chica friendly. Officially, all of the women are supposed to have their cedulas, but this policy is not enforced. The bar is opened 24 h per day, and at least half the girls who work there will see you when they are not working (the best looking girl, however, wouldn't even talk to me after she watched me bring back 4 different girls in my first 8 hours there. There was some element of professional pride, I guess).

At night, there are some girls who hang at the bar to pick up some business. Only one of them was not fat and ugly, but she was no beauty either (her BBBJ was top par, proving once again that beauty is overrated). I did see a few girls at 8 am who were leaving the hotel; these girls were available if you were ready and quick to beat out the other guys who were waiting around.

My biggest problem with the hotel is that it is not near the city center. This would be fine if it were quiet (this is, after all, why you do not hang out in the city). But the bar is open all night long, and there is latin music blaring 24/7. Why not stay at the Europa under the circumstances? Its a bit of a pain to be taking the motoconcho into town whenever you want pussy. And frankly, the motoconchos were not all that pleasant. That being said, I discovered a great way to find semi pros was to tell a motoconcho guy you want to cruise and find a beautiful girl, Any girl you point out, he will ask them if they are interested in fucking you. You would be surprised how many girls will say yes, even though they are not really prostitutes.

The owners are great guys, incidentally. There is internet access most of the time if you bring a computer with Wi Fi capabilities. They also exchange money at rates that are not a ripoff.

One more thing: comparing Sosua to Rio is like comparing Peoria to Paris. But there is plenty of P4P, and many of the girls available are quite beautiful despite their lack of sophistication. If you are vacationing for sex alone, its not a bad place. If you are expecting a beautiful beach and beauitiful girls, forget it. Find a chica in Sosua and take your girl to an all inclusive resort with its private beach (registering her when you check in). The public beaches are pure third world fare (although not bad for finding sex).

The hotel voramar also offers appartments, which are behind the 2 main buildings and they are nice and quiet and the music from the bar does not disturb you at all, and also the cleaners show up later like at 1:30 pm.

Dpilzbo
04-10-07, 02:16
Thankyou guys for your quick response, opinions and advice. I was looking at doing a few days at BBs and a few days in Sosua at hotel V. Unfortunately I will be alone on this venture and being still a rookie I think I will be more comfortable "fishing in a barrel" for this first trip. I will definately make it a point to go to the city for a few hours during the day and follow some of the posts here for places to check out while in Sosua. At BB's I will probably just relax on the beach. As always, I will continue to read the forum and hopefully post something of interest when I take my trip.

Frannie
04-10-07, 15:41
Flying time addressed in #7.

Most Americans speak English and that's about it. For many Americans, it makes no difference if the language is Spanish, Portuguese, or Thai.

Sosua is a small town with an ugly beach.

Brazil offers both.

A girl who can't take a cock in her ass, isn't up to Helpmann's standards.

This is Latin America!! The party doesn't start until 1am; however, the DR discos and bars close down at 12am. This only benefits the AARP crowd, cheap pussy preceded by the "early bird" dinner special.

Yes, Copacabana has none of these things :rolleyes:

Termas, brothels, and pussy 24/7.

It sounds like you have never been to Rio; therefore, you're speaking out of your ass.

-Helpmann :)Oh, really, well what about this post from less than six months ago written by someone using the name Helpmann. Quoted below:

The DR vs. Brazil: My 2 Cents.

I prefer the DR to Brazil. Nevertheless, with a few exceptions (laws/norms regarding prostitution and police corruption) I don't believe that there is really that big a difference between the two. If you're looking for flirtatious sexy morenas with thin bodies and round culos, you can find them in both countries. After that, it comes down to three things.

1) Do you have the talent and charm to spot and snare the hottie that's going to allow you to fuck her up the ass, slap her with your dick, and fuck her throat? Later handing her US$30 for 2 hours of sex and 4 hours of GFE (the lunch and laughs before the sex) as she grins from ear-to-ear, only for her to call you 30 minutes later, asking for more.

2) Do you speak the language and understand the culture (music, dance, people) well enough to charm this type of hottie?

3) All things being equal (#1 and #2,) is it convenient and cheap for you to travel to the country?

For me, when it comes to the DR, I can answer "YES" to #1, #2, and #3; however, when it comes to Brazil, I can't answer "YES" to a single one.

Yes, I can get laid in Brazil, but not like I can in the DR. I can't find an 18-year-old Brazilian girl, who's going to let me fuck her like her last Brazilian boyfriend. Yes, I may fuck her ass and yes, I may fuck her throat and slap her with my dick, but not for US$30 and not following 4-hours of GFE.

I don't speak Portuguese, I know very little about Brazilian culture, and it's a 10-hour, $800 direct flight away (3.5-hour, $400 direct flight to DR,) so when I cancel a free miles flight to Brazil, so I can return to the DR, it's because I've already been to Sugar Loaf.

Jacques52
04-10-07, 16:39
Thank you for the advices, it will be put to good use.

Helpmann
04-11-07, 01:07
Oh, really, well what about this post from less than six months ago written by someone using the name Helpmann. Quoted below:

The DR vs. Brazil: My 2 Cents.

I prefer the DR to Brazil. Nevertheless, with a few exceptions (laws/norms regarding prostitution and police corruption) I don't believe that there is really that big a difference between the two. If you're looking for flirtatious sexy morenas with thin bodies and round culos, you can find them in both countries. After that, it comes down to three things.

1) Do you have the talent and charm to spot and snare the hottie that's going to allow you to fuck her up the ass, slap her with your dick, and fuck her throat? Later handing her US$30 for 2 hours of sex and 4 hours of GFE (the lunch and laughs before the sex) as she grins from ear-to-ear, only for her to call you 30 minutes later, asking for more.

2) Do you speak the language and understand the culture (music, dance, people) well enough to charm this type of hottie?

3) All things being equal (#1 and #2,) is it convenient and cheap for you to travel to the country?

For me, when it comes to the DR, I can answer "YES" to #1, #2, and #3; however, when it comes to Brazil, I can't answer "YES" to a single one.

Yes, I can get laid in Brazil, but not like I can in the DR. I can't find an 18-year-old Brazilian girl, who's going to let me fuck her like her last Brazilian boyfriend. Yes, I may fuck her ass and yes, I may fuck her throat and slap her with my dick, but not for US$30 and not following 4-hours of GFE.

I don't speak Portuguese, I know very little about Brazilian culture, and it's a 10-hour, $800 direct flight away (3.5-hour, $400 direct flight to DR,) so when I cancel a free miles flight to Brazil, so I can return to the DR, it's because I've already been to Sugar Loaf.Simple. I personally prefer to the DR to Brazil (I think most guys that read my posts know this.) Nevertheless, I'm probably in the minority when it comes to this opinion and below are the reasons why:


DOWNSIDE (DR):
1. Su-Th. clubs that serve alcohol are now legally obligated to close down at 12am. (Fr & Sa: 2am)
2. You will never find the professionalism of a Rio hooker. There are no reliable escort services in DR. Sexual services provided can vary drastically for different men, who use the the same girl.
3. Women not as sexually experienced (much less anal)
4. Sosua is an ugly city with an ugly beach.
5. No termas.
6. Many taxi drivers outside of Santo Domingo are cheats and thieves. A rental car is highly recommended.


UPSIDE (DR):
1. Some clubs seem to have a way of bypassing this law ("Mangu" in Playa Dorado stays open until 5am and "Playa Chiquita," a casino w/ a disco in Sosua, stays open until 4am.)
2. NO COUNTER. Who want's a pro providing GFE?
3. NO COUNTER. Just take it. Gazelles are passive and take what is given to them.
4. Cabarete and Boca Chica have good beaches. Bayahibe and Punta Cana have beautiful beaches; however, fewer women.
5. NO COUNTER. Santo Domingo does have massage parlors and wh0re houses, but nothing like 4x4.
6. NO COUNTER. Car rental's are $35-$80/day (depending on time of year and make.)
*7. If leaving from NYC, direct flights are 3.5 hours.
*8. North Coast lodging and food are cheaper than Rio. (ex. 2-bedroom villas w/ private pool for US$105.)I'm not going to lie to a fellow single traveler and tell him that Sosua is just as beautiful as Rio and that what one can do in Rio is equivalent to what one can do in Sosua. That's Bull Shit! Nevertheless, for me, in the Dominican Republic:

1) I have the talent and charm to spot and snare the hottie that's going to allow you to fuck her up the ass, slap her with your dick, and fuck her throat? Later handing her US$30 for 2 hours of sex and 4 hours of GFE (the lunch and laughs before the sex) as she grins from ear-to-ear, only for her to call you 30 minutes later, asking for more.

2) I speak the language and understand the culture (music, dance, people) well enough to charm this type of hottie?

3) It's convenient and cheap for me to travel to the country?

BTW: My OP was only to inform on the differences and similarities between Sosua and Rio, not to slam Sosua or the Dominican Republic (which is how you've interpreted it.) The post was written in response to a PM I received from a frequent Rio traveler, who wanted to know the similarities and differences between the two cities. You shouldn't take it as a personal insult if one decides to comment on the only city your mongering experience is limited to.

-Helpmann :)

Fantasy
04-11-07, 02:27
I think it is much better if you stay at home and jack off.
Rio and Sosua are boring, no girls, high prices and both dry towns (no drinking aloud in either). Watch this board for updates on when it might be safe to return to either.

Frannie
04-11-07, 06:13
No, I was just amused that Helpmann's earlier post spoke about the huge advantages of being able to speak Spanish in the DR, but the more recent post opined that since most people in the US don't speak either Spanish or Portuguese, then it makes no difference.

Learning a new language takes a certain investment of time and effort, but anyone who is planning to make more than one sex tourism trip would probably find it would pay off. Once you decide to learn a mongering language, then Spanish is probably the one to pick, as this will also stand you in good stead in other mongering destinations like Costa Rica (where I have been) and Colombia. Spanish is also more commercially useful in the US.

I prefer the DR for exactly the same reasons as Helpmann, and having reached a certain level of fluency in Spanish, I am too lazy to start over in Portuguese.

Ford
04-11-07, 08:02
Once you decide to learn a mongering language, then Spanish is probably the one to pick, as this will also stand you in good stead in other mongering destinations like Costa Rica (where I have been) and Colombia. Spanish is also more commercially useful in the US.

......"if you decide to learn a mongering language, then Spanish is probably the one to pick" Well, I can hardly disagree with this statement. :) I suppose you could learn Portuguese for your trips to Brazil or Creole to help on a trip to Haiti - but I mean c'mon who really wants to travel to Haiti?

Spanish is important and essential to have a true "gfe" down there. As I became fluent in Spanish my experiences improved and my gfe's improved %500.

In college I studied German. Being able to speak German is very important in Latin America also (lol) :D When someone from Hamburg or Franfurt thinks I'm from Germany (my appearance looks German) I am able to say -

"Ich verstehe nicht, ich bin ein Amerikaner. Wie ist Ihr Glas Bier?"

"I don't understand you, I am an American. How is your glass of beer?" :D

Helpmann
04-11-07, 08:30
No, I was just amused that Helpmann's earlier post spoke about the huge advantages of being able to speak Spanish in the DR, but the more recent post opined that since most people in the US don't speak either Spanish or Portuguese, then it makes no difference...There is an advantage to speaking the language of the country one is mongering in; however, most Americans don't speak a second language. Therefore, you'll find just as many Americans mongering in Europe, Asia, and South America.

You should have read an even earlier post where I state that if one can't speak the language one should head to Rio, "it's perfect for guys that only speak English." Nevertheless, most of the American tourists I meet don't speak Spanish and at best have 5 Spanish phrases on hand and can count to 1000.

I guess I could speak for myself and assume that everyone speaks Spanish, has easy access to direct flights out of JFK->SDQ, and has the "talent and charm to spot and snare the hottie that's going to allow you to fuck her up the ass, slap her with your dick, and fuck her throat." If I did, I would say, "EVERYONE COME TO BOCA CHICA, IT'S HEAVEN ON EARTH AND NOTHING BEATS IT." I doubt there would be many guys who would disagree with that.

BTW: I didn't make the mistake of posting a photo of your novia or something?? Was it "Fuck Puppet?"

-Helpmann :D

Frannie
04-11-07, 19:26
There is an advantage to speaking the language of the country one is mongering in; however, most Americans don't speak a second language. Therefore, you'll find just as many Americans mongering in Europe, Asia, and South America.

You should have read an even earlier post where I state that if one can't speak the language one should head to Rio, "it's perfect for guys that only speak English." Nevertheless, most of the American tourists I meet don't speak Spanish and at best have 5 Spanish phrases on hand and can count to 1000.

I guess I could speak for myself and assume that everyone speaks Spanish, has easy access to direct flights out of JFK->SDQ, and has the "talent and charm to spot and snare the hottie that's going to allow you to fuck her up the ass, slap her with your dick, and fuck her throat." If I did, I would say, "EVERYONE COME TO BOCA CHICA, IT'S HEAVEN ON EARTH AND NOTHING BEATS IT." I doubt there would be many guys who would disagree with that.

BTW: I didn't make the mistake of posting a photo of your novia or something?? Was it "Fuck Puppet?"

-Helpmann :DI guess I am pretty stupid, but at least I speak Spanish with a certain amount of fluency, not like a native to be sure, though one or two girls have asked me if I was Dominican (I am sure they are thinking local resident immigrant Dominican and not native-born Dominican.) I also speak German, which is occasionally useful for discussing Fussball mit Fritz and Hans uber ein bier.

The point I made was that if you are just making one lifetime trip, then language does not matter, but if you are going to make two or more trips, then you might as well learn one of the languages of mongering, as you and I both have, and the most obvious one to learn is Spanish. I am well aware that most Americans do not have a second language, due mainly to deficiencies in the education system, but it is not that hard to pick up a second operating system for your brain and there are many learning aids available on the Internet.

I have no doubt that Rio beats the pants off Sosua in many respects, but the newbie who is planning a first trip will have to decide for himself once he has all the pros and cons of both.

Frannie
04-12-07, 02:21
April 11,2007 | RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil -- Gov. Sergio Cabral Filho has formally requested that the army intervene to contain the violence that has been spiraling out of control in Rio de Janeiro.

AP News.

Crossfire1
04-12-07, 03:00
I am well aware that most Americans do not have a second language, due mainly to deficiencies in the education system.....



Ouchh!!! That's fucked up. You didn't have to take it there.

Polvo
04-12-07, 03:21
Ouchh!!! That's fucked up. You didn't have to take it there.

Ah! But look at the Dutch on Curacao. Most will speak three, possibly four languages. It is not because their education system is superior (which it is). But because nobody else can speak fuck*ng Dutch!!

For example, ask a German to pronounce "Scheveningen" and see what happens. If they get it right, I will give them a bike.

Suerte!

Polvo

Yanqui69
04-12-07, 03:30
Ouchh!!! That's fucked up. You didn't have to take it there.

Agreed. Unecessary.

I also would say that even those getting the best educations, language is simply not a priorit.

In Europe, one can get on the highway or a train and in less than an hour, you can be in anothe country, with another language.

Multiple languages are simply needed to live there.
In the US, unless one travels outside the country, (and so many don't) a second language is rarely useful.

I personally think its a good idea to have more than one language. We Americans often thing we are the center of the universe, and being able to communicate and appreciate other cultures is a gift.

(O BTW, I lived in Europe for almost 9 years on and off , in uniform and civilian capacity, and there are Europeans who don't speak a second language).
Another language is more common in the young -and its usually English!

Yanqui69
04-12-07, 03:32
Damn, Sorry about all those typos.
(I can write in English, believe me.)


Agreed. Unecessary.

I also would say that even those getting the best educations, language is simply not a priorit.

In Europe, one can get on the highway or a train and in less than an hour, you can be in anothe country, with another language.

Multiple languages are simply needed to live there.
In the US, unless one travels outside the country, (and so many don't) a second language is rarely useful.

I personally think its a good idea to have more than one language. We Americans often thing we are the center of the universe, and being able to communicate and appreciate other cultures is a gift.

(O BTW, I lived in Europe for almost 9 years on and off , in uniform and civilian capacity, and there are Europeans who don't speak a second language).
Another language is more common in the young -and its usually English!

Ponderosa
04-12-07, 05:20
Ouchh!!! That's fucked up. You didn't have to take it there.

Agreed. We don't have to make sweeping remarks about the educational system. Let's be civil about this......

Ford
04-12-07, 15:49
i am well aware that most americans do not have a second language, due mainly to deficiencies in the education system, but it is not that hard to pick up a second operating system for your brain and there are many learning aids available on the internet.

this remark is a perverse misrepresentation of the truth.

the education system in europe emphasizes the study of foreign languages as a matter of necessicity. a german businessman would be hard pressed to be successful in his work with out a "working" command of english, french, russian, possibly dutch. this is due to the fact that the proximity of the european nations makes it significantly more likely that business will be conducted across borders than has traditionally been the case here in the usa.

for example - let's compare a businessman in st louis missouri with say one from munich germany. the businessman in st louis can engage in commerce with companies that are physically located 1500 miles east or west of his office and still be in the usa. business, still be conducted (for the most part) in english.

you travel 1500 miles either north, south, east or west from munich you will cross over into the countries of france, the united kingdom, belgium, netherlands, denmark, switzerland, italy, austria, poland, croatia, sweden, finland, former nations of the soviet union such as estonia, russia, albania, slovakia and serbia/montenegro.

learning foreign languages in europe is therefore, of much greater necessity than it is in the us. i would certainly suggest however, as business becomes increasingly global with every passing year - this will change. it already has.:)

anectdotally, i have found that for a group of people that you remark have a "superior education system", i have found that the german's that i have met in my numerous trips to the dr are sadly lacking in spanish! they try to get by down there by using their english but this doesn't serve them well - because the education system in the dr is grossly inadequate - and english is not widely spoken.

i translate and help out german tourists in the dr all the time when they have difficulty speaking with the locals. on my last trip, (last month) i helped a german tourist with his breakfast order and he thanked me. he then remarked that he thought it was funny that he needed my help, because he told me he "speaks 5 languages at %75 or more, but spanish isn't one of them"

he said, "spain is not a leading nation in the european business community and as such he never felt the need to learn the language"

to suggest that the entire american education system is lacking, solely due to the fact that europeans excel in foreign language skills is an obfurep001ion of the truth.

cheers my friends.......

Polvo
04-12-07, 17:04
......the education system in europe emphasizes the study of foreign languages as a matter of necessicity. a german businessman would be hard pressed to be successful in his work with out a "working" command of english, french, russian, possibly dutch.........1500 miles either north, south, east or west from munich you will cross over into the countries of france, the united kingdom, ...."spain is not a leading nation in the european business community and as such he never felt the need to learn the language".......... to suggest that the entire american education system is lacking, solely due to the fact that europeans excel in foreign language skills is an obfurep001ion of the truth........

ford:

i do agree with your final analysis.

a german simply cannot speak dutch. in wwii the dutch, to protect themselves, got people to name a specific dutch town to see if they were infiltrators, or not! if you were a german, you couldn't handle the consonants properly and got promptly slotted.

english is the lingua franca in europe (pardon the pun) primarily because the french refuse to speak german, as do the dutch (although most of them learn it) plus the british are just as bad as the americans when it comes to languages. in fact, the united kingdom (which is not a coutry, cough) has dialects so extreme that in many cases an englishman could not understand what a scot said. even if he wanted to.

the key is who does the trading? that is where the language comes from. the us could actually live without raw materials from abroad and until last century was mainly trading "within" (i exclude texas who kept changing nationality). hence, no need to learn another language. and note that spain has been a poor sister in europe based on exports for a while, but that has changed mightily in the last few years. the sun is finally setting on the uk as the emasculated effetes demonstrated adequately quite recently.

until recently a modern language was a mandatory course in the uk. but that wasn't getting the government the pass marks they needed to boast about. so they introduced media studies and hairdressing!!

i was classically schooled (got buggered rotten, but learnt a thing or two) and was trained as a french linguist. what a wast of fuc*ing time. i have no wish to go to the congo. and it actually gets in the way of learning spanish. have you ever tried asking for directions in a 7-11 in california in french??? see how far that gets you!!

language is a matter of trade. you trade global - you need to be able to speak local. the capital markets gravitate to cheap raw materials. i submit that we are all engaged in trade on this board. and, with due respect to some of our members, some of the materials purchased are more raw than others!!

suerte!

polvo

Frannie
04-12-07, 17:50
O.K., I live in Florida, a state that has a very large Spanish speaking population and does a great deal of trade with Latin America, and where signs in stores like Wal*Mart are routinely posted in both Spanish and English. yet Spanish is not routinely taught in the public schools, except to Spanish speaking children who are taught in Spanish! I call this a deficiency in the education system.

The large organization I work for provides services to people who don't speak English, and yet almost the only people in the organization who speak Spanish are those for whom it is a first language.

Since many jobs require Spanish speaking skills, persons who don't have them are pretty much excluded. Try getting a job as an airline agent in Miami if you don't speak Spanish.

And even if you don't absolutely NEED Spanish, it is extremely useful in many fields including government services, health care, prisons, law enforcement and helps you get ahead. In addition, learning a language, any language, invariable includes learning more about other cultures and ways of life, and about the world we live in, which is generally a good thing.

The best way to learn a language is to start as young as possible. A person who language as an adult rarely speaks as well as someone who learned it young.

So in my opinion black and white Floridians who don't speak Spanish are disadvantaged versus bilingual Cuban Americans who learn Spanish in the home. The schools are not doing a very good job in preparing students for the world we live in.

Monger 3
04-12-07, 22:21
Trip number 7...but its been a year. I would like to NOT stay in Europa this time around; any other suggestions on Europa-like places. Any info on New Garden or other options under $40/night? What is Club Residencial like?

Also, any info on the scene since the curfew was implemented? My routine has always been putz around during the day, find a pre-quel for an evening bone at ~9pm, and then hit Classico for the nightcap at midnight...are clubs even open at midnight now? Nothing was more fun than pulling out stragglers from Classico at 3am at bargain basement prices! By that time, I have enough booze in me for the 5s and 6s to look like 7s and 8s anyhow!

Is there anything new to Sosua I should check out? New clubs or massage places I should look out for? Is High Caribe or D'Latinos back open? Anything in Cabarete or Charamicosworth checking out. Any casino action? I like off-the-beaten path stuff...but old school mongering up and down Pedro Clisante is always a winner!

Zip Head
04-12-07, 22:48
I checked this place out the last time I was in Sosua (Fall of 2006). I have been staying at the Europa, which is central and convenient, but has its faults and is a bit rundown. I took a short tour of Club Residencial and it is VERY nice, especially for local standards. They have several classes of rooms, poolside, non-poolside, I think some two room apts and overall the place looked much nicer than any local properties I've been in, but they were a bit pricier...can't remember exact numbers, but in the vicinity of $60 U.S. per night, depending on the season.

They have full time security out front all the time and it is chica friendly, but the cedulas (id) are required and held at the front desk. This is a good thing, for most of us.

Although I've never stayed there, it looked great and I would recommend it.

Ford
04-14-07, 19:43
O.K., I live in Florida, a state that has a very large Spanish speaking population and does a great deal of trade with Latin America, and where signs in stores like Wal*Mart are routinely posted in both Spanish and English. yet Spanish is not routinely taught in the public schools, except to Spanish speaking children who are taught in Spanish! I call this a deficiency in the education system.

The large organization I work for provides services to people who don't speak English, and yet almost the only people in the organization who speak Spanish are those for whom it is a first language.

Since many jobs require Spanish speaking skills, persons who don't have them are pretty much excluded. Try getting a job as an airline agent in Miami if you don't speak Spanish.

And even if you don't absolutely NEED Spanish, it is extremely useful in many fields including government services, health care, prisons, law enforcement and helps you get ahead. In addition, learning a language, any language, invariable includes learning more about other cultures and ways of life, and about the world we live in, which is generally a good thing.

The best way to learn a language is to start as young as possible. A person who language as an adult rarely speaks as well as someone who learned it young.

So in my opinion black and white Floridians who don't speak Spanish are disadvantaged versus bilingual Cuban Americans who learn Spanish in the home. The schools are not doing a very good job in preparing students for the world we live in.


Frannie,

O.K. maybe we got off on the wrong foot - if so, I apologize. I certainly think that this most recent post is accurate, well-thought out and articulate. I agree completely with your remarks.

In defense of my education system let me just offer this. When you say that the schools here are not doing a good job preparing students for the world we live in - well this may be true. But I think the USA education has been largely overwhelmed by the explosion of immigration in the past ten years and was ill-prepared to handle it.

The signs you speak of in Walmart that are in both English/Spanish represent a rather recent "phenomenon". They were put there to address the needs of a changing society and that is what our schools need to do. The Europeans are a bit ahead of us when it comes to foreign language awareness - that I'll give you! :)

BTW, since I live in New York and am employed in one of the fields that you mention - and routinely provide Spanish/English interpretaions at my job - I know of what I speak! ;)

cheers ..............

Yanqui69
04-14-07, 20:43
I agree with you and Ford.
In the modern globalizing world, there is no excuse for not learning more than one language. Current immigration matters aside, there has been a strong Spanish influence in the Southwest and Florida for a long long time
(since way back when it belonged to SPAIN).
I live in Florida and love the Latin influence.
It gives an otherwise bland whitebread-and-baloney culture a little spice.
We Americans have been isolated in our own little world for too long.
Serve overseas or live overseas a while and you find out how isolated mentally we really are.
One should be a citizen of the world, not a little corner of it.
The Latins have an expression that roughly translates as:
"Whoever can speak another language is worth two."
Wish we Gringos were that wise.



O.K., I live in Florida, a state that has a very large Spanish speaking population and does a great deal of trade with Latin America, and where signs in stores like Wal*Mart are routinely posted in both Spanish and English. yet Spanish is not routinely taught in the public schools, except to Spanish speaking children who are taught in Spanish! I call this a deficiency in the education system.

The large organization I work for provides services to people who don't speak English, and yet almost the only people in the organization who speak Spanish are those for whom it is a first language.

Since many jobs require Spanish speaking skills, persons who don't have them are pretty much excluded. Try getting a job as an airline agent in Miami if you don't speak Spanish.

And even if you don't absolutely NEED Spanish, it is extremely useful in many fields including government services, health care, prisons, law enforcement and helps you get ahead. In addition, learning a language, any language, invariable includes learning more about other cultures and ways of life, and about the world we live in, which is generally a good thing.

The best way to learn a language is to start as young as possible. A person who language as an adult rarely speaks as well as someone who learned it young.

So in my opinion black and white Floridians who don't speak Spanish are disadvantaged versus bilingual Cuban Americans who learn Spanish in the home. The schools are not doing a very good job in preparing students for the world we live in.

Ford
04-14-07, 21:16
Yanqui69,

Thank you for your kind words Yanqui, but to be fair I think the person you are agreeing with is Frannie. He wrote the caption that you are quoting from.

I was defending the US education system as it attempts to play "catch up" in this ever changing world - a world that benefits (imo) more and more everyday from the influence of Latin America. :)

Yanqui69
04-14-07, 23:31
Yanqui69,

Thank you for your kind words Yanqui, but to be fair I think the person you are agreeing with is Frannie. He wrote the caption that you are quoting from.

I was defending the US education system as it attempts to play "catch up" in this ever changing world - a world that benefits (imo) more and more everyday from the influence of Latin America. :)

Ford,
No problem.
It just seemed to me that we were all in our own way extolling the benefits of learning another language and broadening our horizons (and minds).

regards
yanqui69

Helpmann
04-15-07, 03:11
Let's get real.

No one one on ISG is studying Spanish so they can learn more about "other cultures and ways of life, and about the world we live in." If an ISG member is studying Spanish, it's because "Language Ability" + "A Plane Ticket to DR" = "A Hot Cheap Lay," nothing else.

If you were fluent before your "mongering career" you're either Latino, Spanish, or Italian. There's no economic or social benefit for many Americans to know another language. Yes, there's a very large populous of Hispanic-Americans in California, Texas, New York, Florida, New Mexico, and Arizona. That's cool. Nevertheless, there are 44 other states in this country. Do I need Spanish to live in Massachussetts, Ohio, Colorado, Indiana, Vermont, Georgia, Oregon...?? Only if I plan to bang *****s in Mexico!

Everyone who's finished high school in the US has studied another language. Nevertheless, because there is no economic or social benefit for many Americans to learn another language, we don't practice and we don't continue to learn. It's not because Americans are lazier than the French.

Believe me, Americans are determined. Once we see the "economic" benefit, we'll jump right on it! Shit, you don't have to be a "rocket scientist" to learn Spanish and you'll see that out upon meeting the ex-pats that live in DR.

-Helpmann :)

Polvo
04-15-07, 03:39
Let's get real.

No one one on ISG is studying Spanish so they can learn more about "other cultures and ways of life, and about the world we live in." If an ISG member is studying Spanish, it's because "Language Ability" + "A Plane Ticket" = "A Hot Cheap Lay," nothing else. ....... you don't have to be a "rocket scientist" to learn Spanish and you'll see that out upon meeting the ex-pats that live in DR.

-Helpmann :)

Helpmann:

Respectfully, Ford was defending the eduaction system. Most were agreeing with him. And, in analysis, you are too.

You correctly identify there is minimum economic benefit for the vast majority of Americans to learn a second language because the vast majority of Americans do not travel outside the contiguous US. The vast majority of Americans do not even posses a current passport! For them, there is no need.

You also correctly point out that people on this board are learning a second language to try and get a cheaper, hotter experience! Earlier, I submitted that everyone on this board is engaged in trade. Money for sex (P4P or GF). I would also submit that the people on this board are not the "vanilla" normal American. And for that, I am grateful!

So if you are after a better, and hopefully cheaper, experience in South America you learn Spanish or Portuguese. The capital markets gravitate to cheap raw materials - which is all we are after!! And, with due respect to some of our members, some of the materials purchased are more raw than others. But many of the ones featured here are as good as I have seen anywhere!

Now, bugger this, what's happening in Classico tonight??


Suerte!

Polvo

Capt Dps
04-15-07, 04:53
ZIPHEARD, thanks for the report on the Club Residencial. I work in Nigeria
and have to move to the DR. Sousa will be my new home do to tax purpose.
I'm trying to reseach the Sousa here. Any info. fellow mongers can provide will
be very helpful. English will do just find for me in my new home. And the
German and Dutch speak vastly alike. But this is not the place for this discussion.

Thanks

Cap

Yanqui69
04-15-07, 15:31
Suggest you contact some realtors there for long-term rentals.

Try americanrealtydr.com
juanperdomo.com also has multi-national agents (Dutch, Belgian, US, etc)




ZIPHEARD, thanks for the report on the Club Residencial. I work in Nigeria
and have to move to the DR. Sousa will be my new home do to tax purpose.
I'm trying to reseach the Sousa here. Any info. fellow mongers can provide will
be very helpful. English will do just find for me in my new home. And the
German and Dutch speak vastly alike. But this is not the place for this discussion.

Thanks

Cap

Capt Dps
04-16-07, 06:32
Yanqui69,

Thanks for the reply. I will look into your suggestions.

Other questions I wanted to ask, you and others maybe able to comment on are, The off season if there is one? Am I correct in asuming this begins around May ending in the cooler months of Nov?

The hotel VORAMAR I have seen rates ranging form $50 thru 150 What is up with that?

My frist stay being in May, 07 for 30days, I'll stay here hopefully in a one room apartment. Than I'm back to Nigeria for 60days.

Any and all comments are welcome from all members. Anything that may help me learn a little before I arrive.

My flight will be Nigeria, Paris, Miam, POP

Thanks in advance.

Cap

Capt Dps
04-16-07, 06:50
Yanqui69,

Thanks for your reply. I'll look into these are ny visit in May.

You may see a reply I wrote early in regards to these questions not sure if it was posted or not.

Is there and offseason?

The hotel VORAMAR I am seeing price from $40-$70 and $150 if I go to the "REALDR. COM" What is up with that?

I will be traveling Nigeria, Paris, Miami, POP early May, 07

I plan on staying at the VORAMAR for thirty days. Than I return to Nigeria for sixty days.

If anyone has any comments on any thing from my flight to and from to were I stay to contacts in SOUSA please let me hear it. I'll thank you in advance now.

All The Best!

Cap

Yanqui69
04-16-07, 12:38
The closest thing to an off-season is the summer.

Those going for women aren't put off, but the "snow-birds" that come to escape the winter can sweat at home without coming to the Caribbean to do so.



Yanqui69,

Thanks for your reply. I'll look into these are ny visit in May.

You may see a reply I wrote early in regards to these questions not sure if it was posted or not.

Is there and offseason?

The hotel VORAMAR I am seeing price from $40-$70 and $150 if I go to the "REALDR. COM" What is up with that?

I will be traveling Nigeria, Paris, Miami, POP early May, 07

I plan on staying at the VORAMAR for thirty days. Than I return to Nigeria for sixty days.

If anyone has any comments on any thing from my flight to and from to were I stay to contacts in SOUSA please let me hear it. I'll thank you in advance now.

All The Best!

Cap

Sidney
04-16-07, 15:36
If you want Anonymity, don't come here! Mucho chica network

Already, the Haitian Hottie has caught me twice with the RD Jackhammer! Both are spending time in Cabarete, where my gf is housed. What is a Monger to do? In 2 years, this never happened in Buenos Aires.

Ford
04-17-07, 23:35
ZIPHEARD, thanks for the report on the Club Residencial. I work in Nigeria
and have to move to the DR. Sousa will be my new home do to tax purpose.
I'm trying to reseach the Sousa here. Any info. fellow mongers can provide will
be very helpful. English will do just find for me in my new home. And the
German and Dutch speak vastly alike. But this is not the place for this discussion.

Thanks

Cap

Captain,

Give Amber Guardian a try also. www.amberguardian.com

They are big on the north coast - have alot of the best properties. They can give you decent deals on ST or LT rentals. They also handle purchases.

Sidney
04-18-07, 01:23
Late in the afternoon to 9pm, I have seen in the main street open air restaurants. Later, in Bamboo.

Atlasguy123
04-18-07, 05:41
Has anyone been to the Blue Dalphin Club? It is suppose to be an upscale gentelman's club in Sosua.

What are the room rates?

Is it O.K. to visit the bar if you're not staying there?

Is there take out?

It looks nice.

http://www.a3tnet.com/bluedolphin.htm

Regards,

Brian

Dpilzbo
04-19-07, 01:56
I am still looking for a place to stay for the week I will be in the DR so I sent them an e-mail after seeing your post. I asked them the same questions. I will let you know what I find out if you're interested. If there isn't anyone here on the board that has stayed there or has any info on it, I may in the spirit of the board, TOFTT and book a few nights there next week. Then I can post some info that will be helpful to others.

Dpilzbo

Bold Focker
04-19-07, 07:22
Another option is new garden hotel. i called in there today. they have wi-fi air con and girl friendly. $45 per night. he is booked up until the 22nd.
www.newgardenhotel.com if this helps. also central to action!
heard it is full of Wops!




I am still looking for a place to stay for the week I will be in the DR so I sent them an e-mail after seeing your post. I asked them the same questions. I will let you know what I find out if you're interested. If there isn't anyone here on the board that has stayed there or has any info on it, I may in the spirit of the board, TOFTT and book a few nights there next week. Then I can post some info that will be helpful to others.

Dpilzbo

Dpilzbo
04-19-07, 11:20
Yes, I have seen many reports about that place. I have that as a last minute option for me if I decide to stay in the city itself. I look forward to your review of NewGarden since it will probably be the most current relative to my trip.

This address may work better if you want an English version of the hotel's website : www.newgardenhotel.net. I think your link was a different hotel but I was not sure since it was in a language foreign to me. I'll keep in touch, so far you are the only person from the board that will be down there when I am I think.

Dpilzbo

Ponderosa
04-19-07, 11:49
Another option is new garden hotel. i called in there today. they have wi-fi air con and girl friendly. $45 per night. he is booked up until the 22nd.....

I think this is the right address http://www.newgardenhotel.net

Andy S
04-19-07, 16:03
I think this is the right address http://www.newgardenhotel.net
This is not centrally located hotel. It is on the way to Voramar and it is somewhere bteween Plaza Caribe and Voramar. You need a motoconcho everytime when you want to go to the beach, disco, bar, Sosua centre etc...

Sidney
04-19-07, 16:37
Only 1/2 block from Rocky's and Pedro Clisante. Two miles from the Voramar.

Bq Ribs
04-19-07, 20:56
This is not centrally located hotel. It is on the way to Voramar and it is somewhere bteween Plaza Caribe and Voramar. You need a motoconcho everytime when you want to go to the beach, disco, bar, Sosua centre etc...You must be thinking of a different hotel. New Garden Hotel is a one block walk to the action. IMO New Garden Hotel is one of the best places to stay.

Xdentx
04-20-07, 05:55
I'm booked there for a July trip...

Puerto La Cruz
04-20-07, 11:02
Girl friendly? Nope.

Marc Anthony
04-20-07, 12:49
New Garden used to be called Garden Keti. I think the owner got a new wife who didn't like the hotel being named after the old wife. Just up from Rocky's.

Artisttyp
04-21-07, 02:57
I'm looking at going back to el salvador for a trip but I've been missing the DR alot. I've been staying away due to the weather forecast. The trip would be for a little over 3 weeks.

1. What are the days really like....afternoon rain everyday...can I plan an outdoor trip or probably not?

2. Can a girl hang out the entire night if you get her in your room before 12

3. I know sosua has a supermarket but last time I was there food was running $12/15 US a plate in an average restaurant. I assume inflation would have risen those prices since ? I do like the little joints but not in excess.

Rain in DR or rain in El Salvador I cant decide both are humid and both have good sex.

DR Monger II
04-21-07, 14:39
There are a few place in Sosua that you can eat for cheap. La Graviola serves cheap dominican food. The chicken place on Pedro Clisante, near where "The Palace" use to be serves a half bbq chicken for 100 pesos and a big glass bottle of coke for 20 pesos. Less than 4 dollars for a big meal.

Ford
04-21-07, 20:34
There are a few place in Sosua that you can eat for cheap. La Graviola serves cheap dominican food. The chicken place on Pedro Clisante, near where "The Palace" use to be serves a half bbq chicken for 100 pesos and a big glass bottle of coke for 20 pesos. Less than 4 dollars for a big meal.

......its Pollo Pedro's! :) That guy has done pretty well for himself. Used to be located on the opposite side of the street. All you need to do is get a couple grills,set up a canopy tent over your cookers, set up about 6 plastic tables with chairs - and your in business!

Respectable chicken for cheap! Just make sure your chicken is cooked thoroughly though, I've had a few friends who have had some bad experiences eating there. :(

cheers............

Monger 3
04-23-07, 15:28
Can anyone tell me if Sosua by the sea is girl friendly or if there is a way to sneak one in if not.

Thanks

It was semi GF when I stayed there a few years ago. First nite, I bribed the guy, but second night, he would not let my friend and I back with 2 chicas...big hassle...and it wasnt that nice for the premium pricing besides having huge rooms...

Sammon
04-23-07, 15:47
Few years ago All Inclusive resorts were GF. But recently they do not want any Dominican girls as guests especially with tourists. I guess the image of family friendly goes away.
I used to bribe the security guys especially at night to get the girls in. But no more.
Best way is to befriend the guy who gives you the armband when you check in and let him slip you few armbands. This you can put on the girl and the girl can stay and eat as long as she likes. Also make sure when you check in he notes down as checking in as two people although you paid for only one. Sometimes the strict security guys ask the front desk check on these.
There are some dominican girls who pay their own way and stay at the resorts. You can usually meet them in the disco. They usually stay only on the weekends.

Llttf
04-27-07, 15:22
New Garden used to be called Garden Keti. I think the owner got a new wife who didn't like the hotel being named after the old wife. Just up from Rocky's.Actually they built a new garden on the lot next door, hence the name change. I see last week they put in a new sewer line - the new sign has been ordered!

Llttf
04-27-07, 15:28
I checked this place out the last time I was in Sosua (Fall of 2006). I have been staying at the Europa, which is central and convenient, but has its faults and is a bit rundown. I took a short tour of Club Residencial and it is VERY nice, especially for local standards. They have several classes of rooms, poolside, non-poolside, I think some two room apts and overall the place looked much nicer than any local properties I've been in, but they were a bit pricier...can't remember exact numbers, but in the vicinity of $60 U.S. per night, depending on the season.

They have full time security out front all the time and it is chica friendly, but the cedulas (id) are required and held at the front desk. This is a good thing, for most of us.

Although I've never stayed there, it looked great and I would recommend it.I checked out this place a while ago and was impressed, however after asking around I heard a lot of comments about the chica friendly policy being at the discretion of the woman manager. Everyone said they had problems with her.

Llttf
04-27-07, 15:36
Bar Hours

Just to correct a few reports here. The bars in this country stay open until 1:00 from Sunday to Thursday, and 2:00 on Friday and Saturday. The casinos can stay open until 4:00 so they have now added discos which means, in the case of Sosua, there is a one o clock rush hour of motoconchos to and from Playa Chiquita. BTW the standard cost is 50 pesos one way.

In my four months here this winter I have not seen many bars staying open later. This seems to be one of the few laws in this country which is consistantly enforced. Often the bars will pass out plastic cups so you can leave the premises with your drink at closing time.

Artisttyp
05-02-07, 15:17
Sorry to repeat the same questions but I never really got a solid response to them. I'm looking into booking a trip in the next few weeks to either buenos aires,el salvador or back to the DR. Buenos aires seems the most promising but the hotel situation has gotten pretty expensive and Im not into renting an apartment. I cant justify spending that kind of $ or can I ?

1. The weather the weather the weather in DR. Yes I know its raining and Ive been there during rain storms so I know it can be very intense. However what Im not getting from the weather forecast is are there any patches of sun throughout the day ? Are people getting a sun tan at all or are they just sitting around drinking beer at a beach bar with overcast skies. If someone is down there now that would be a big help. Thanks

2. Another member posted a question about inflation. I've read about it on ******** What are mongers experiencing relating to daily expenses...chicas,beer,food. By the way I dont eat a half chicken and a soda and call it a meal. I cant be drinking for 3 weeks and survive on fried foods. I'm not that type.

3. Has anyone heard of an apartment complex called "perla de sosua"

Thanks sorry to be repetitive but Ive been running into kinks everywhere Im looking to go. Knowhere is perfect but at least I know wherever I go I will have thought it out.

Escort King
05-02-07, 15:24
Sorry to repeat the same questions but I never really got a solid response to them. I'm looking into booking a trip in the next few weeks to either buenos aires,el salvador or back to the DR. Buenos aires seems the most promising but the hotel situation has gotten pretty expensive and Im not into renting an apartment. I cant justify spending that kind of $ or can I ?

1. The weather the weather the weather in DR. Yes I know its raining and Ive been there during rain storms so I know it can be very intense. However what Im not getting from the weather forecast is are there any patches of sun throughout the day ? Are people getting a sun tan at all or are they just sitting around drinking beer at a beach bar with overcast skies. If someone is down there now that would be a big help. Thanks

2. Another member posted a question about inflation. I've read about it on ******** What are mongers experiencing relating to daily expenses...chicas,beer,food. By the way I dont eat a half chicken and a soda and call it a meal. I cant be drinking for 3 weeks and survive on fried foods. I'm not that type.

3. Has anyone heard of an apartment complex called "perla de sosua"

Thanks sorry to be repetitive but Ive been running into kinks everywhere Im looking to go. Knowhere is perfect but at least I know wherever I go I will have thought it out.


There are usually breaks in the rain but doubtful if you have enough time to get a tan.... but it seems you will be there 3 weeks.... you will get good sun days.
Food, chicas and drink... you will need at least $100-150 for girls.... $30 for food will get you good meals.... Rocky's etc for breakfast, decent lunch and good dinner... though you have an apartment with a kitchen buy from the grocery store and have your TLN cook you breakfast in the morning and maybe your beach bunny afternooner makes dinner....
Have not heard of the hotel/apartments

Artisttyp
05-02-07, 15:55
Great thank you.

Frannie
05-02-07, 16:25
Have been to the DR many, many times and all the year round the weather is nearly always hot and sunny all day. BUT sometimes there are spells of rainy weather, which has been the case recently. In all probability it will be hot and sunny a few weeks hence, but you can never guarantee anything as far as weather is concerned.

Sidney
05-02-07, 19:26
Near the Shark Bar and Secrets. She is fat, stocky, and very ugly, and wearing a dress. First, she agressively propositions you. When that failed, she grabbed my balls hard and simultaneousy uses her other hand to frisk your pocket. She failed but you may not be as lucky! I wanted to ''punch her out'' but I was afraid the Policia would support her, not me.

Artisttyp
05-02-07, 20:35
Has anyone stayed at new garden hotel and experienced motoconcho noise from a room facing away from the street?

Do you think u$50 bills will be accepted ?

As always thanks.

Fantasy
05-04-07, 06:32
I just returned tonight from twelve days in the "ring" with my wingman (Senior Ford). I have always loved this place, and argumentatively no one knows this destination better, but even I am growing tired of the constant
"scams", high prices and foolish taxes. When you are there, you are simply spending "Monopoly Money", but when you get back and realize what you are paying for a domestic beer in the supermarket, it plainly is robbery. this place will never recover from that one golden winter we had when the peso was 52 to 1.

Escort King
05-04-07, 14:58
I just returned tonight from twelve days in the "ring" with my wingman (Senior Ford). I have always loved this place, and argumentatively no one knows this destination better, but even I am growing tired of the constant
"scams", high prices and foolish taxes. When you are there, you are simply spending "Monopoly Money", but when you get back and realize what you are paying for a domestic beer in the supermarket, it plainly is robbery. this place will never recover from that one golden winter we had when the peso was 52 to 1.

Yeah great exchange rate and much lower prices... it was bliss... now you have to go further south to get those prices... Colombia or Equador

Sidney
05-04-07, 17:50
Sat. about 10pm

Fantasy
05-04-07, 22:36
It won't be long before Medellin is next at the rate we are going. I have been there so much in the last two years, but equador, maybe so.... you don't go to quito do you?
I do have a location in paraquay, and one in northern chile that are still like the 52 to 1 days of sosua (even better really), but I hesitate to share them just yet. I have watched medellin go from bargain basement to $100 rooms with $150.00 *****s in less than 12 months. So very sad, as I am one of the few who rate Colombia over Brasil as the best quality this hemisphere has to offer, and for me personally, the best in any hemisphere. its a matter of taste, and my taste is now and will always be "Latino".

Ford
05-07-07, 16:24
It won't be long before Medellin is next at the rate we are going. I have been there so much in the last two years, but equador, maybe so.... you don't go to quito do you?
I do have a location in paraquay, and one in northern chile that are still like the 52 to 1 days of sosua (even better really), but I hesitate to share them just yet. I have watched medellin go from bargain basement to $100 rooms with $150.00 *****s in less than 12 months. So very sad, as I am one of the few who rate Colombia over Brasil as the best quality this hemisphere has to offer, and for me personally, the best in any hemisphere. its a matter of taste, and my taste is now and will always be "Latino".

.........I am one of the few who rate Colombia over Brasil as the best quality this hemisphere has to offer....its a matter of taste and my taste will always be "Latino".

...er, uh......you did mean "Latin(a)" didn't you? :eek:

(you're scaring me, this is a side of you I never saw) (lol)

John Jr
05-08-07, 02:02
Since there is talk about Colombia here what would be the best place (safe) to go in Colombia (i really liked Cabarete vs. Sosua in Dr) .

John Jr

Llttf
05-08-07, 02:39
Since there is talk about Colombia here what would be the best place (safe) to go in Colombia (i really liked Cabarete vs. Sosua in Dr) .

John JrMight br better to ask this in the Columbia section!

Sidney
05-08-07, 14:12
Miss hangin with you guys! Sorry, BF about all the ''crap'' on the AR board. Just some machismo!

Capt Dps
05-09-07, 16:34
Thanks everyone for you earlier comments. Ford I will use your reccomendations
for long term rentals.

Everyone, I'm going to Sousa this week and staying at a chica friendly hotel.
I'm going down to check things out. A friend and co-worker lives in Sousa.
He will be in West Africa were we work for this trip. So I'm on my own.

My concerns, I don't drink allot due to meds. But can be socialable and have
a couple. I'm really not going to try to pick up a girl every night. But, I'm sure
I may meet one who I can't say no to. In these regards I'm afraid I may put
folks off and seem stuck up to the culture there.What do you think? I don't want to ride the back of a cycle or use a taxi. This may [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) some off.
These things will make me standout rather than blending in.

I may end up living there. I'm reading Espanol now. This forum is the best for
the real skinny on the streets of any country.

How far of a walk from Voramar to Sousa beach? How are the Casinos?

Thanks,

Cap!

Berthold
05-10-07, 07:49
Thanks everyone for you earlier comments. Ford I will use your reccomendations
for long term rentals.

Everyone, I'm going to Sousa this week and staying at a chica friendly hotel.
I'm going down to check things out. A friend and co-worker lives in Sousa.
He will be in West Africa were we work for this trip. So I'm on my own.

My concerns, I don't drink allot due to meds. But can be socialable and have
a couple. I'm really not going to try to pick up a girl every night. But, I'm sure
I may meet one who I can't say no to. In these regards I'm afraid I may put
folks off and seem stuck up to the culture there.What do you think? I don't want to ride the back of a cycle or use a taxi. This may [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) some off.
These things will make me standout rather than blending in.

I may end up living there. I'm reading Espanol now. This forum is the best for
the real skinny on the streets of any country.

How far of a walk from Voramar to Sousa beach? How are the Casinos?

Thanks,

Cap!

to reach the beach in sosua from the hotel voramar it takes you round about 30 minutes depending on how fast you walk. the casino in sosua is right next to the voramar (playa chiquita) and has a nightclub too which is open till 4 am in the morning.

Curry
05-10-07, 11:39
You think!? Listen Capt. If you are new in town you automatically stand out. If you dont speak Spanish you stand out. If you are NOT Dominicano, you will stand out. I do understand your concerns. They are to some degree legitimate but dont worry. Not going with every chica actually garners respect from some of the girls and increases your chances of selecting the "right" one. If you opt to walk alone at night, make sure that it is for short distance and in reasonably lit areas. Same city rules as anywhere apply. Studying Spanish? You will need this very simple phrase more than an other in DR. No, gracias. For what its worth. I stand out more than anyone in any crowd in any country. Beleive me.

Bkgee
05-14-07, 00:24
How far is Casa Linda from DClassico? What is cost per night? What is the chica policy? How can I get in contact with them? How is the air conditioning?I stayed at Casa LInda in november 2006, it's the best. Chica friendly no problems at all, 3 bedroom villa, kitchen, dinningroom, 2 bathrooms, and swimming pool with big backyard for about $1050 for the week, you have to get your own food and stock the house, with three or four people that should not be a problem at all. They also have armed guards at the front gate with shot guns.

Ford
05-14-07, 14:20
Thanks everyone for you earlier comments. Ford I will use your reccomendations
for long term rentals.

Everyone, I'm going to Sousa this week and staying at a chica friendly hotel.
I'm going down to check things out. A friend and co-worker lives in Sousa.
He will be in West Africa were we work for this trip. So I'm on my own.

My concerns, I don't drink allot due to meds. But can be socialable and have
a couple. I'm really not going to try to pick up a girl every night. But, I'm sure
I may meet one who I can't say no to. In these regards I'm afraid I may put
folks off and seem stuck up to the culture there.What do you think? I don't want to ride the back of a cycle or use a taxi. This may [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) some off.
These things will make me standout rather than blending in.

I may end up living there. I'm reading Espanol now. This forum is the best for
the real skinny on the streets of any country.

How far of a walk from Voramar to Sousa beach? How are the Casinos?

Thanks,

Cap!

Cap,
Stand out? Once you get down to Sosua and walk around that place you'll soon realize how silly your concerns are. Don't worry, you won't have any problems.

Sosua and the neighboring town of Cabarete are tourist (primarilly European tourist) "hotbeds." You will be in the company of literally hundreds of neophytes "shuffling" along in their slide sandals, cargo shorts and crumpled tee-shirts. Many don't speak much Spanish, many don't speak any Spanish.

You say you don't drink much due to medication - well that's good! At one point on this board you were given the impression that being drunk and disorderly was a means of public acceptance in Sosua? (lol) If you are socialable but "fly below the radar" down there you'll be fine.

The one issue that might present a problem is the fact that you don't take taxi's or motoconchos. This may present a logistical issue of getting around.

This strikes me as a bit strange. How do you get around in other LA countries?

From the center of town, the Casino is too far to walk (especially at night) and it is located down a dirt road that floods (ALOT):eek: I don't know that I'd want to be walking there - and certainly wouldn't want to be walking back from there- especially if its 4am, I have a little Dominicana Hottie on my arm, I've already dropped 25mg of "V" and I'm ready for "sexy time!" :D

I think you should reconsider your motoconcho phobia - not for the purposes of blending in - but for the purpose of enjoying your stay.

Have a great trip.............

Member #2128
05-17-07, 19:48
Cap,
Stand out? Once you get down to Sosua and walk around that place you'll soon realize how silly your concerns are. Don't worry, you won't have any problems.

Sosua and the neighboring town of Cabarete are tourist (primarilly European tourist) "hotbeds." You will be in the company of literally hundreds of neophytes "shuffling" along in their slide sandals, cargo shorts and crumpled tee-shirts. Many don't speak much Spanish, many don't speak any Spanish.




Yeah, Ford is right. And that's the problem. Full of short-term gringos on a quick beach and pop holiday, throwing money around, without much respect for where they are.

IMHO. Sadly,
#2128

Jb Cool
05-17-07, 21:33
How far of a walk from Voramar to Sousa beach? How are the Casinos?

Thanks,

Cap!Be EXTREMELY careful with regards to Casinos in DR. A large number of casinos in DR have a major scam running there and they have fleeced thousands of tourists. I have posted a couple of detailed reports on this site on this subject. Check them out. Also, check out the site http://www.superkenoscam.com/ for further details.

Other than that, Sosua is a very tourist friendly town and I wouldn't worry about standing out or not having much Spanish.

Good luck.

Ford
05-18-07, 01:17
Member #2128 - Sosua was ruined along time ago by "overpaying short staying" Gringos.

There are still a few of us that respect the laws of the jungle and try to maintain reasonable pricing but it ain't easy.

The reputation that Sosua has with tourists is that Sosua is a place where the girls are "easy".

The reputation that Sosua has with the working girls is that Sosua is a place where the tourists are "dopey."

........its sadly changed alot in the past 5 years. :(

Frannie
05-18-07, 14:15
I think the demise of Sosua is a bit overstated. It is still a place where you can go and live out your sexual fantasies with attractive young women at a very reasonable price.

Highlights of my most recent trip included taking three gorgeous young women to a cabana and rolling around on a bed with them for a couple of hours doing it all, and then a todo la noche with two gorgeous, horny women, fucking one at bedtime and the other in the morning after sleeping between them. When you consider that this activity combined cost a little less than $250 and compare to the cost of an hour with an escort in the US, this is great value--and an overwhelming experience.

Maybe it can be done better and cheaper somewhere else, but the DR is close to the eastern USA, so is convenient.

Try it, you might get used to it.

Bar Stool 101
05-18-07, 21:33
Lou at the Shark bar raised its price for a Presidente beer to 100 pesos. Where does he get off charging such as high price. What happened to his quote on his web site? " Intention is to bring American guys together so they can have a place to shoot the shit and listin to American music (That much he did). Then it went on to say his goal was "not to make a proit but to break even". Why is he hitting his own friends over the head with his prices? I will no longer spend my money there.

Bar Stool 101
05-19-07, 01:16
Lou at the Shark bar raised its price for a Presidente beer to 100 pesos. Where does he get off charging such as high price. What happened to his quote on his web site? " Intention is to bring American guys together so they can have a place to shoot the shit and listin to American music (That much he did). Then it went on to say his goal was "not to make a profit but to break even". Why is he hitting his own friends over the head with his prices? I will no longer spend my money there.Ment to use the word "profit"

Mr Majik
05-20-07, 00:22
"I think the demise of Sosua is a bit overstated. It is still a place where you can go and live out your sexual fantasies with attractive young women at a very reasonable price"

Here, here. Well said.

But the title is a bit misleading, because there IS no demise of Sosua. I was there until Thursday and there is no single feeling like walking into Classico's or the other discos in town and seeing the wide range of beautiful Dominican women, of all colors, shapes, and sizes at your beckoning.

Sosua is a good balance. It is a town without pretenses, where if all you want is P4P.- simply step outside of your hotel or to a local bar/disco.- and make your play. But we also have to remember that the tourist area is just a tiny piece of Sosua, and there are beautiful women in all parts of the city. A man with a bit of confidence, game, reasonably good looks and above all. Patience can have a respectable fling with a respectable Dominicana.

And above this, there are beaches, casinos, cheap beer, almost consistent sun.

Come on. Where is the demise?

Llttf
05-20-07, 01:04
Lou at the Shark bar raised its price for a Presidente beer to 100 pesos. Where does he get off charging such as high price. What happened to his quote on his web site? " Intention is to bring American guys together so they can have a place to shoot the shit and listin to American music (That much he did). Then it went on to say his goal was "not to make a proit but to break even". Why is he hitting his own friends over the head with his prices? I will no longer spend my money there.As you mentioned it is Lou's bar and he can set his price where he wants and you can choose whether you want to drink there. My feeling is that most of the guys who drink there will continue to. I think Lou knows what he is doing.

G

Llttf
05-20-07, 01:13
Can anyone in Sosua at this time tell me how the Tropicana is doing these days.

The place never seemed to get busy until 11:00 and it has to close at 1:00 or 2:00, tough to make it work with only 2 hours of business per day.

The owner is decent guy, hope he can make it work through the slow season.

G

Ford
05-20-07, 17:34
"I think the demise of Sosua is a bit overstated. It is still a place where you can go and live out your sexual fantasies with attractive young women at a very reasonable price"

Here, here. Well said.

But the title is a bit misleading, because there IS no demise of Sosua. I was there until Thursday and there is no single feeling like walking into Classico's or the other discos in town and seeing the wide range of beautiful Dominican women, of all colors, shapes, and sizes at your beckoning.

Sosua is a good balance. It is a town without pretenses, where if all you want is P4P.- simply step outside of your hotel or to a local bar/disco.- and make your play. But we also have to remember that the tourist area is just a tiny piece of Sosua, and there are beautiful women in all parts of the city. A man with a bit of confidence, game, reasonably good looks and above all. Patience can have a respectable fling with a respectable Dominicana.

And above this, there are beaches, casinos, cheap beer, almost consistent sun.

Come on. Where is the demise?


Mr M,

Your point is well taken. I guess if you read from my comments that I was predicting a demise - this wasn't my intention. Sosua will always have its advocates, its supporters and I know several guys who are "wordly" experienced, have some $$$ - but will travel no where else! They still love Sosua, always will.

Imo, as compared to past years - prices are up and quality is down overall. But it can still be found. Look at the photo gallery thread. I found my girl Daniella is Sosua, and I'd consider her to be reasonably good "quality".

If there is a drop-off in the popularity of Sosua in the coming years - it won't come from overpaying travelers who fly in from JFK, LGA, or EWR it will ultimately come from the jungles of Colombia!

There has been an astonishing improvement in the overall safety and security in that country due to Pres Uribe's "política de la mano duro" and travel has swelled to cities like Cartagena, Medellin, Bogota, Barranquilla as a result. Major airlines such as AA are increasing their scheduled flights to keep up with the increased demand, and the quality of the woman in this country has always been exquisite! :)

The emergence of Colombia as a viable "monger" destination (imo) threatens many of the popular DR locations and will continue to be a drag for years to come.

cheers..........

Don Rapha
05-20-07, 17:55
Hi,

I´m going to Sosua on june 15, now I have some questions as my last visit was back in 2002.

I´m planing to take a Taxi from Puerto Plata to Sosua, whats a "normal" fare for this ride?

In 2002 the High Caribbean Disco was the place to go, what Clubs are "hot" today?
As everyone has to close at 1AM, will the bars/clubs open earlier than before?
Anyone has a town map of Sosua ?

Thanks for your answers

Don Rapha

Escort King
05-20-07, 20:01
Mr M,

Your point is well taken. I guess if you read from my comments that I was predicting a demise - this wasn't my intention. Sosua will always have its advocates, its supporters and I know several guys who are "wordly" experienced, have some $$$ - but will travel no where else! They still love Sosua, always will.

Imo, as compared to past years - prices are up and quality is down overall. But it can still be found. Look at the photo gallery thread. I found my girl Daniella is Sosua, and I'd consider her to be reasonably good "quality".

If there is a drop-off in the popularity of Sosua in the coming years - it won't come from overpaying travelers who fly in from JFK, LGA, or EWR it will ultimately come from the jungles of Colombia!

There has been an astonishing improvement in the overall safety and security in that country due to Pres Uribe's "política de la mano duro" and travel has swelled to cities like Cartagena, Medellin, Bogota, Barranquilla as a result. Major airlines such as AA are increasing their scheduled flights to keep up with the increased demand, and the quality of the woman in this country has always been exquisite! :)

The emergence of Colombia as a viable "monger" destination (imo) threatens many of the popular DR locations and will continue to be a drag for years to come.

cheers..........

I have to agree... having been to both and the flight only being 2 hours longer it is worth it... a lot of beauty and cheaper....

Third World
05-20-07, 21:54
Can anyone tell me how far is Casa Linda from the action in Sosua? The villas there look beautiful and I like the fact that I have all the privacy I want. I never stayed near Sosua while in DR. I'm usually in Costambar and wanted to try something different when I return in the fall.

I also would like to know how far is Casa Linda from Cabarete and are there any good looking girls there? I keep hearing how beautiful it is there also.

And last is it necessary for me to rent a car or will a taxi be okay? Because my novia lives and works in POP and I might want to go grab her maybe a night or two on my visit, or ride to BB's and grab someone that I've been wanting but never had a chance to get because of some distractions. LOL!

Ford
05-21-07, 16:35
A couple of answers.

Don Rapha - I was there last week. High Caribe is closed. (moss growing on steps) It opened recently for a short period of time but is closed again. Its sad I really liked that place. Its just not in a good location, alittle out of the way. The place now is the Merengue Bar and the Latino's Club. Both places close about 1am , 2am on weekends.

Then the action switches over to the Playa Chiquita Casino which (because of a series of envelopes given to the right government officials, no doubt) is exempt from the new ordinance and is open til 4 or 5am.

Nothing quite like Dominican law. :rolleyes:

Ford
05-21-07, 16:43
A couple of answers.

Third World - Residencia Casa Linda is a stylish series of mini-homes located up a dirt road on the way out of Sosua headed towards Cabarete. The entire complex has 24 hour security and is gated.

The complex is fairly convenient to all but I sure wouldn't depend on taxi's. I would rent a car. Taking motoconchos back and forth from your place up that dirt road would be quite a chore and you said that you have a novia in POP - so you sure wouldn't want to be taking a cab there every night.

Cabarete didn't have much in the way of quality when I was there - it was all in Sosua.

Casa Linda will definitely "fill the bill" for security and privacy. You say the last time you were in the DR you stayed in Costambar (can't understand what in the "3rd" world you were doing there ;)- talk about the middle of nowhere - I assume you were at BB's) , this trip you will be much more centrally located and much closer to the action! :)

...........enjoy your trip!

Routard
05-21-07, 17:30
If there is a drop-off in the popularity of Sosua in the coming years - it won't come from overpaying travelers who fly in from JFK, LGA, or EWR it will ultimately come from the jungles of Colombia!

There has been an astonishing improvement in the overall safety and security in that country due to Pres Uribe's "política de la mano duro" and travel has swelled to cities like Cartagena, Medellin, Bogota, Barranquilla as a result. Major airlines such as AA are increasing their scheduled flights to keep up with the increased demand, and the quality of the woman in this country has always been exquisite! :)

The emergence of Colombia as a viable "monger" destination (imo) threatens many of the popular DR locations and will continue to be a drag for years to come.



Can't agree more with Ford, one of our best analyst of this part of the world!

Third World
05-21-07, 22:06
Ford,


I actually stayed at the Caribbean Sun apartments last month in Costambar but did make several trips around the corner when my novia left to go to work! LOL!

I did BB's a couple times and don't get me wrong it's cool but management be on some bullshyt sometimes.......

I went to Sosua one Saturday night, hit the clubs, and had a ball plus brought a little cutie back so...

This time I wanna try something different and get the whole experience of that action so Casa Linda is what it will be!

Thanks for your response!

Man Can Bang
05-22-07, 23:20
Hi everyone,

Ill be in Sousa at Hotel Europa 5/26--6/3.Are there any xxx massage palor near the hotel and I was interested in other cuture womens, because Im going to be banging the Hati and DR GIRLS and I want to change the pace?

Where are the Waterfalls,I would love to take some pics and have some fun with the girls near some waterfalls?

And how far is Blackbeard from Hotel Europa and what is the Clubs hours, is Blackbeard all that?

Escort King
05-23-07, 15:22
Ill be in Sousa at Hotel Europa 5/26--6/3.Are there any xxx massage palor near the hotel and I was interested in other cuture womens, because Im going to be banging the Hati and DR GIRLS and I want to change the pace?
Have not really seen Asian imports... there are Russian ones at the real highend all sex inclusives.....



Where are the Waterfalls,I would love to take some pics and have some fun with the girls near some waterfalls?
The people at the Europa can help organise a road trip.

And how far is Blackbeard from Hotel Europa and what is the Clubs hours, is Blackbeard all that?
BBs is not a club. it is a hotel like Europa that has girls onsite until late night. It is about 30 minutes or so away from Sousa... cost about $30 at least to get there by cab.

Frannie
05-23-07, 15:55
I'll be in Sousa at Hotel Europa 5/26--6/3. Are there any xxx massage palor near the hotel and I was interested in other cuture womens, because I'm going to be banging the Hati and DR GIRLS and I want to change the pace? Have not really seen Asian imports. There are Russian ones at the real highend all sex inclusives.

Where are the Waterfalls, I would love to take some pics and have some fun with the girls near some waterfalls?

The people at the Europa can help organise a road trip.

And how far is Blackbeard from Hotel Europa and what is the Clubs hours, is Blackbeard all that?

BBs is not a club. It is a hotel like Europa that has girls onsite until late night. It is about 30 minutes or so away from Sousa. Cost about $30 at least to get there by cab. There are a couple of girls who hang out in front of the Europa who offer massage and more.

There are a couple of massage places over the barbershop near the cross roads a few blocks towards the beach from the Europa. Kika does not do sex (I don't think) but does excellent massage 1hour for 500 pesos that is worth every peso.

If you proceed up the street from the Europa away from the beach there is a new "massage" place a couple of blocks away, then next to that is Passion massage, where you can get an orange juice and a blow job.

Going back the other way towards the beach, there is a new "massage" place near the Classico disco, but I can't tell you how good it is.

My recommendation, for what it is worth is this: If you want a real massage, go to Kika. If you want sex, get your own girl from the street, bars, disco, casino and take them to your room. And remember that while you can't take all the girls from the disco at night, there is nothing to stop you making arrangements to see one or two the next afternoon at your hotel.

The only waterfalls I know of for sure are at Limon near Las Terrenas, which is a long way from Sosua. Maybe there is something local.

Blackbeards is about 25 miles from Sosua. You can cover the Sosua to Puerto Plata leg of the journey, which is 4/5 of the distance, in a public taxi, that costs only 30 pesos ($1) each way, if you want to save money. However your choice of girls at night in Sosua is infinitely superior to what you woud find at Blackbeard's at night. Blackbeard's is a good place to stay, especially if you are new to the DR, but offers less to the non resident visitor. You might want to go there for a day trip just to see it, if you are curious.

Ford
05-23-07, 19:28
Hi everyone,

Ill be in Sousa at Hotel Europa 5/26--6/3.Are there any xxx massage palor near the hotel sure, there is one right up the road on Pedro Clisanteand I was interested in other cuture womens, because Im going to be banging the Hati and DR GIRLS and I want to change the pace?Want a change of pace from one culture? Try Costa Rica, Curacao or Panama - Sosua has "stay at home" girls working here ;)

Where are the Waterfalls,I would love to take some pics and have some fun with the girls near some waterfalls?You are referring to the famous white water rafting and cascadas (waterfalls) of Jarabacoa no doubt! They are located in the central valley near the town of La Vega and south of Santiago. 80 miles from Sosua by car.

And how far is Blackbeard from Hotel Europa and what is the Clubs hours, is Blackbeard all that?Skip BB's. Its not all that! Their swimsuit contest on Saturday's is kind of fun - but BB's is located in Costambar (you'll never find it) way out of the way. If you go make sure you throw popcorn out the window of the car, so you'll be able to find your way back! (lol):D

In short, MCB if this is your maiden voyage to Sosua - stick around the town. There is no need to venture far, except maybe to Cabarete one night for dinner. You'll have fun and you'll find some quality. If you want to take a day-trip to the waterfalls of Jarabacoa I have no doubt that The Europa could set it up. Enjoy your trip!

cheers.......

Mike77
05-24-07, 03:16
Hi All,

I am going to BB 5/29 - 5/31 and was looking to see who else might be there.
I am not new to the hobby, but new to the hobby in DR. I have hobbied all over the world Latin America included and have been on this board since '92 and the Atta days. I have had to limit posting and change names to keep things under cover if you know what I mean). I understand the BB's is for the "spoon feed" monger and I am OK with that for this visit but would like to get out and about to Sosua and PoP with someone that knows there way around. If I can't hook up with someone that's ok too. I am used to going it alone in and out of the USA.

Hit me up if you want to hook up.

Ford
05-24-07, 21:43
Mike77,

If you've been all over LA and a member of this board since the Atta days then I'm guessing your Spanish is pretty solid too.

BB's is very much for the "spoon fed" monger. I don't think your going to enjoy it there. You should consider staying in Sosua, and driving into BB's for their Saturday swimsuit contest and lunch. When you see where Costambar is, and how far away you are from everything you'll wish you made other arrangements I'm sorry to say.

Anybody who knows me and my contributions to this board over the years - knows I NEVER have anything to tout or any "axe to grind." The owner of BB's is a real nice guy, they serve very tasty food and have a nice stylish little complex - but I don't think its for you - you'll be too isolated out there, and bored!

If you go, hit me with a PM when you get back. I'd like to know if my advice was on target or not my friend.

cheers,
FORD

Danesi77
05-24-07, 23:29
Any decent restaurants besides El Toro?

Many Thanks

Marc Anthony
05-25-07, 00:09
Ford is absolutely right. BB's is nice but in the middle of a sleepy expat suburban setting. Sosua, at least for awhile, is vibrant with street life and possibility within easy walking distance. BB's is perfect for a newbie but very limited for someone with LA travel experience.

Capt Dps
05-26-07, 05:29
I've just return from forty days in the north of the D.R.

Two things that may help newbies to this area.

Forget BB'S! to far out, in the middle of nowhere.

Forget Voramar! to far out and know A/C.

Remember everyone wants your money.

The hotels will even burn you.

Watch your peso!

Carberete will be my new home in the near future.

Cap

Llttf
05-28-07, 03:40
Any decent restaurants besides El Toro?

Many ThanksLots more places in Sosua, I think I counted over 30 within a 5 minute walk from my hotel.
Try:

La Finca- (next to Codetel)Good place for a romantic dinner

Baileys - (across from Codetel) Consistant quality and service at reasonable price

La Roca - ( On the corner coming off the beach)Great place to people watch

Andys - (Next door to Passions massage), may be closed now

Albertos Tipico - (On Pedro Clisante nr Classico disco) Always good

Brittania ( across from Classico) In my opinion best every day food in town, daily specials are usually 200 pesos ($ 6)

Hope this helps

G

Fantasy
05-28-07, 06:44
Like I said from day 1, this well maintained, nicely layed out, well managed resort is located in (BF,Egypt)

Always remember the three golden rules,

Location, Location, Location.................

John Jr
05-28-07, 22:08
Capt Dps

I feel the same way about CABARETE .

John Jr

Escort King
05-29-07, 18:19
Field of Dreams has been sold to the guiys that run Crytstal's and will be doing all-inclusives.... get the girl and room and food....

though not in Sousa it is not too far....

Sosuero
05-30-07, 05:28
Who is allready in Club Residencial ? I miss my Girlfriend Zelandia.

She work there a lot of Years.

If somebody know a Apartment there for Sale -not from the Office-only from Privat can send me a privat Message.Untill 60000 U$

Ford
05-30-07, 22:52
Field of Dreams has been sold to the guiys that run Crytstal's and will be doing all-inclusives.... get the girl and room and food....

though not in Sousa it is not too far....

That's it EK. His name is Lino, and he's a real nice guy and a friend. But with all due respest to him - to really enjoy FOD - you'd have to be comfortable with that type of dynamic. (an all-inclusive place)

Not all of us are. The one huge advantage Lino has with FOD over McBrides "Blackbeards" is the location.

FOD's is near Playa Dorado and as such is near Puerto Plata and Sosua. Blackbeard's is in Costambar and as such is close to just about nothing. :(

I wish Lino success with his new venture.

Yanqui69
05-31-07, 03:01
That's it EK. His name is Lino, and he's a real nice guy and a friend. But with all due respest to him - to really enjoy FOD - you'd have to be comfortable with that type of dynamic. (an all-inclusive place)

Not all of us are. The one huge advantage Lino has with FOD over McBrides "Blackbeards" is the location.

FOD's is near Playa Dorado and as such is near Puerto Plata and Sosua. Blackbeard's is in Costambar and as such is close to just about nothing. :(

I wish Lino success with his new venture.

It appears the national tourist minister has closed the
"Mustang Ranch" before it opened.

Reasons?
1. the location is too darn blatant, right across from Megabuck development Playa Dorada. Too threatening to a huge megabucks development.

2. if the location wasn't provocative enought, let's call it something really obvious, like Mustang "look I'm a *****house!" Ranch.
How absurdly stupid.

Like it or not, you can't put *****houses on the front door of million dollar businesses and expect not to get shot down.

Hell, even teh original Mustang Ranch is in the middle of nowhere!
D'ya thing they could put in across from a casino and expect to survive?

These types of establishments have to be inconspicuous.
BB survives BECAUSE it IS "in the middle of nowhere"!

As long as they remain (relatively) inconspicuous, they don't draw (too much) crap from the BIG business interests and officials.

Escort King
05-31-07, 15:25
It appears the national tourist minister has closed the
"Mustang Ranch" before it opened.

Reasons?
1. the location is too darn blatant, right across from Megabuck development Playa Dorada. Too threatening to a huge megabucks development.

2. if the location wasn't provocative enought, let's call it something really obvious, like Mustang "look I'm a *****house!" Ranch.
How absurdly stupid.

Like it or not, you can't put *****houses on the front door of million dollar businesses and expect not to get shot down.

Hell, even teh original Mustang Ranch is in the middle of nowhere!
D'ya thing they could put in across from a casino and expect to survive?

These types of establishments have to be inconspicuous.
BB survives BECAUSE it IS "in the middle of nowhere"!

As long as they remain (relatively) inconspicuous, they don't draw (too much) crap from the BIG business interests and officials.

Is there a news link for this?

Yanqui69
05-31-07, 16:12
Is there a news link for this?

http://www.periodicoelfaro.info/news/118/ARTICLE/1138/2007-05-29.html

Translation:
The Secretariat of State of Tourism closed east Tuesday the construction of the denominated project “Crystal Mustang Ranch Resort”, located in the neighborhoods of the Complex Golden Beach, in Port Silver. The closing act was headed by the undersecretary of State of Tourism for the North zone, Bernardita lawyer Abbott de Finke, who emphasized the support offered by the Association of Hotels and Gilded Beach Proprietors, as well as of all the leaders and leaders of that community. “We received several complaints of the community with respect to the construction of this project, which was being built without no type of permissions that instead of elevating the quality of the tourist product of the zone went in damage of the same one, because it was a project directed to prostitution and to denigrate the image of the Dominican woman”, showed Abbott de Finke. It lamented that situations as this happens, distorting the reality of a country, not only as vacacional destiny but of its people, since this type of projects is shameful and in anything they correspond with the international and professional promotion that is making the Dominican Republic in the different emitting markets from tourists.

Frannie
05-31-07, 16:40
http://www.periodicoelfaro.info/news/118/ARTICLE/1138/2007-05-29.html

Translation:
The Secretariat of State of Tourism closed east Tuesday the construction of the denominated project “Crystal Mustang Ranch Resort”, located in the neighborhoods of the Complex Golden Beach, in Port Silver. The closing act was headed by the undersecretary of State of Tourism for the North zone, Bernardita lawyer Abbott de Finke, who emphasized the support offered by the Association of Hotels and Gilded Beach Proprietors, as well as of all the leaders and leaders of that community. “We received several complaints of the community with respect to the construction of this project, which was being built without no type of permissions that instead of elevating the quality of the tourist product of the zone went in damage of the same one, because it was a project directed to prostitution and to denigrate the image of the Dominican woman”, showed Abbott de Finke. It lamented that situations as this happens, distorting the reality of a country, not only as vacacional destiny but of its people, since this type of projects is shameful and in anything they correspond with the international and professional promotion that is making the Dominican Republic in the different emitting markets from tourists.

Gotta love the translation of Puerto Plata as "Port Silver".

Escort King
05-31-07, 16:47
http://www.periodicoelfaro.info/news/118/ARTICLE/1138/2007-05-29.html

Translation:
The Secretariat of State of Tourism closed east Tuesday the construction of the denominated project “Crystal Mustang Ranch Resort”, located in the neighborhoods of the Complex Golden Beach, in Port Silver. The closing act was headed by the undersecretary of State of Tourism for the North zone, Bernardita lawyer Abbott de Finke, who emphasized the support offered by the Association of Hotels and Gilded Beach Proprietors, as well as of all the leaders and leaders of that community. “We received several complaints of the community with respect to the construction of this project, which was being built without no type of permissions that instead of elevating the quality of the tourist product of the zone went in damage of the same one, because it was a project directed to prostitution and to denigrate the image of the Dominican woman”, showed Abbott de Finke. It lamented that situations as this happens, distorting the reality of a country, not only as vacacional destiny but of its people, since this type of projects is shameful and in anything they correspond with the international and professional promotion that is making the Dominican Republic in the different emitting markets from tourists.

Thanks mate.... hope Billy got paid up front... otherwise they back out and he has his spot compromised.

Yanqui69
05-31-07, 17:34
Gotta love the translation of Puerto Plata as "Port Silver".

Well, that is what it means in Spanish.

Playa Dorada or "Golden Beach" in Spanish, got auto-translated as "Gilded Beach"

Yanqui69
05-31-07, 17:35
Thanks mate.... hope Billy got paid up front... otherwise they back out and he has his spot compromised.

I think the understanding is Billy got paid.

-But I wouldn't want to be in the buyer's shoes.

Ford
05-31-07, 23:20
Hey Yanqui. Great find on that article!

(In sum and substance. This is my translation of the article from the original Spanish. Originally appeared in El Faro Digital, Tuesday May 29.)

The Crystal "Mustang style Ranch" was blocked from being developed any further. The closing of the new Crystal Complex was headed by the undersecretary of State of Tourism for the North zone, lawyer Bernardita Abbott de Finke, who emphasized the support offered by the Association of Hotels and Gilded Beach Proprietors, as well as of all the leaders and leaders of that community.

"We received several complaints from the community with respect to the construction of this project. It was a project that would not do anything towards elevating the quality of the tourist zone, in which it was built. Rather, it would do damage to this area, because it was a project directed to prostitution and it would work to denigrate the image of the Dominican woman", expalined Abbott de Finke. "It is sad that this situation was able to get as far as it did. Establishments like this one in the DR effectively distort the reality of our country. Projects like these are shameful and work against those of us who are trying to promote a atmosphere of professionalism for the Dominican people throughout the International community, and promote a positive atmosphere for tourism."

Oh well, so much for that. Lino isn't happy I'm sure. :(

cheers,
FORD

Fantasy
06-01-07, 00:32
Less than a month ago Ford and I sat in Cristals and told Lino that this would never Fly. His answer was. "Yes it will, I am Dominican".

Ford, is this not the truth? I guess he did not want to take advice from two Gringos!

Usboys
06-01-07, 03:34
Places to stay in Sousa. I am going to Sousa in July, where are places to stay for mongering and the current cost for chicas.

Ford
06-01-07, 15:32
Less than a month ago Ford and I sat in Cristals and told Lino that this would never Fly. His answer was. "Yes it will, I am Dominican".

Ford, is this not the truth? I guess he did not want to take advice from two Gringos!

Fantasy, you are absolutely correct. I remember that is exactly what you said to him. "But Lino, isn't your location just a bit too close to Playa Dorado? Won't you get some grief from the government?"

"No, it will be o.k., it will be no problem."

If you remember however he wasn't the only guy we spoke too - who said he wouldn't "have any problem because he's Dominican." Someone else we know down there - had the same comment. ;)

Yanqui69
06-02-07, 00:08
Fantasy, you are absolutely correct. I remember that is exactly what you said to him. "But Lino, isn't your location just a bit too close to Playa Dorado? Won't you get some grief from the government?"

"No, it will be o.k., it will be no problem."

If you remember however he wasn't the only guy we spoke too - who said he wouldn't "have any problem because he's Dominican." Someone else we know down there - had the same comment. ;)

I think the concept is a good one. I have often though that the BB model could be applied over and over again. (uh, Medellin Mansion?).

But the location was absolutely suicidal.
Like threatening a Mafia Don. Just don't do it!

You couldn't threaten/[CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140)-off a multi-million dollar developement like Playa Dorada (think it doesn't have connections with Dominicans in high places?).

If he can convert the property to a "straight" establishment, -but drop the name for something less in-your-face, there might be a chance.

It could be "chica-friendly" like FOD, but not so damn OBVIOUS.
That could work, a good quality "chica-friendly" place.

BB used to have a "black book" with girls' fotos and more suggestive fotos on the website, -and got a LOT of scrutiny from the officials, so they dropped it.
(In favor of "Bikini Contest" fotos).
Put up the front like BB that the girls don't "work" there, they just "hang around."

Dominican or not, he's got to be subtle, (have to look up the Spanish word for "inconspicuous").

Ford
06-02-07, 00:45
Places to stay in Sousa. I am going to Sousa in July, where are places to stay for mongering and the current cost for chicas.

Hi Usboys,

I know a gazillion places to stay in Sosua, but I think you should consider this one......

http://www.newgardenhotel.net/eng/default.htm

The New Garden Hotel is guest-friendly, its very convenient (less than 100 yards from the main places) its inexpensive, clean, safe, and has a nice little outdoor pool and convenient little bar on premises.

I checked it out a few weeks ago when I was in town. A very respectable place to launch your Sosua getaway! :)

cheers...........

Fantasy
06-02-07, 01:18
I understand that Ford will make is 1000th post in a small internet cafe in Buenos Aires?

TheJerk
06-03-07, 02:00
Ford is New Garden far from Classico? And can you bring guess in?

Ford
06-03-07, 04:31
Ford is New Garden far from Classico? And can you bring guess in?

Its very close to Classico. Its just around the corner and down the street where Rocky's and the old Cowgirl Bar used to be.

Yes. It is "guest friendly."

GrouchoMarx
06-03-07, 14:43
I have stayed at the New Garden Hotel before, and will stay there again this week (6/6-6/9). The location is great, the staff are accommodating, and it is good value for the money. I have seen families enjoying this place too. Though definitely girl friendly, it is probably best for the low key monger. Feel free to PM me with any questions.

Cunning Linguist
06-04-07, 12:54
I am fixed to go to Sosúa in August but I have some questions and pardon me if they might seem too trite

1. Are the girls in Sosúa all shaven down below? I know that Americans and many Europeans prefer shaven girls, and I respect that, but for those of us who like the more natural, unshaven kind, is there any hope to find one?

2. Some members report that the Dominican girls are not as careful about feminine hygiene as, for example, Thai girls are. Does that mean that DATY is highly dangerous in DR? (by that I mean herpes and other STDs)

3. Where can you find "quality" (i.e. good-looking) Haitian girls in Sosúa? In the street? In a particular bar? Are they nicer or more jaded than Dominican girls? Would it help if I learnt some Kreyol before I went?

Thank you for your kind information.

Member #2128
06-05-07, 07:46
I am fixed to go to Sosúa in August but I have some questions and pardon me if they might seem too trite

1. Are the girls in Sosúa all shaven down below? I know that Americans and many Europeans prefer shaven girls, and I respect that, but for those of us who like the more natural, unshaven kind, is there any hope to find one?

2. Some members report that the Dominican girls are not as careful about feminine hygiene as, for example, Thai girls are. Does that mean that DATY is highly dangerous in DR? (by that I mean herpes and other STDs)

3. Where can you find "quality" (i.e. good-looking) Haitian girls in Sosúa? In the street? In a particular bar? Are they nicer or more jaded than Dominican girls? Would it help if I learnt some Kreyol before I went?

Thank you for your kind information.

I've been to Sosua a couple of different times. Stayed maybe 5 weeks total over a two year period.

1. Most I found were shaven if I remember correctly. I know I don't remember encountering any jungle bushes, even though I preferred the Haitians and more or less focused on finding girls from there.

2. You can't generalize about hygiene. ALL DOMINICANS....blah blah. Like all Americans are big mouthed, blowhards who like to get drunk and throw around their money (this is what the Dominicans say about us!). I'd say DATY is not a good idea with working girls anywhere, even Thailand. For exactly the reasons you mention---STD's like gonnorea or herpes...or even worse. You don't put your dick in there without a condom, why put your TONGUE?

3. If you like the darker skinned Haitians like I do, you are in for a treat. They are everywhere! Attractive and unattractive alike. Downstairs at Classicos there seem to be more Haitians than Domincanas. Again, you can't generalize about them as a group...or you will be proven wrong. I saw a lot of "low-class" trampy, rough looking Haitianas, but steered clear. I also found an ample number of young, sweet, hotter than hot Haitiana ladies who I enjoyed a whole lot! Remember, the Haitians are the underclass in DR. They are the immigrants and the Domincans generally don't like them. If you go with a Haitiana and take her to where mostly Domincans are...you may get some attitude. Not as a rule. But it can happen.

I envy your trip!

#2128

Cunning Linguist
06-05-07, 11:57
I would like to thank Member #2128 for his kind, knowledgeable answers to my questions.

In a followup, I have some further questions, theories, and comments regarding the scene in Sosúa.

1. From Member #2128's answer, I may infer that if there are any nonshaved ladies, they are mostly to be found among Haitians if there are, indeed, any to be found. What a shame that nearly all are shaved. Oh well. I hope someone tells me that there are some that at least are not totally bald.

2. DATY is not dangerous so long as you take precautions such as using saran wrap over the vulva area. OK, it may not be anywhere as good as the real thing but it is better than dreaming about it.

3. According to Member #2128's informed answer, cute dark-skinned Haitian cuties are to be found everything, especially downstairs in Classicos. I have fallen in love, nay, fallen in lust with Helpman's "Fuck Puppet". I really would like to meet her. Her rich dark-chocolate skin and svelte, lithe body really do a wicked job on my hormones. Perhaps Member #2128 could tell us how many Haitians there look like Miss #Fuck Puppet". (Wherever did that nickname come from?). I wonder if there are any nice, non-jaded 18 or 19 year old beauties along the beach, ready for action?

Further questions and comments.

4. My question about learning some Kreyol went unanswered. Although I am perfectly fluent in Spanish (I ought to be, I live on and off in Catalonia which, for now at least, is in Northeast Spain even though, where I live, no one actually uses it in the street. Catalan is the norm there which I also know quite well), I speak fairly good French and I am very aware that Kreyol is, on the surface at least, quite different from Parisian French.

However, I have found that if one makes an attempt at the girl's language, they usually respond. I am fully aware that the girls in Sosúa are much more interested in the tourist's money than anything else (somewhere between 99% and 100%) but that one percent can, in my opinion, make a big difference. What I am after is a bit more enthusiasm, a bit more oomph in the sack.

Of course, money talks, but perhaps a nice appearance, nice clothes, nice banter, a bit of cologne and a smattering of Haitian Kreyol might go a long way towards developing some feel-good rapport, thereby resulting in some great mind-blowing sex for both. In Thailand, I found that speaking Thai often made things much better (though at other times it made some Thai girls suspicious and fearful because I could understand a lot of their comments which they did not like).

5. How is security there in Sosúa? If one wears nice clothes at night, is he a target for a mugging (of course, by nice clothes, I mean slacks, a nice shirt, but no shiny gold watches, rings, etc.) ? In Thailand, I found that a nice well-groomed appearance brought brilliant results (of course, money was also fundamental). Would that apply in Sosúa as well ?

In any case, is it safe to walk the streets at night from Classicos to, say, New Garden Hotel or Hotel Europa or is it necessary to take a cab, however short the distance might be?

6. I understand that upmarket, girl-friendly hotels would be New Garden, Residencial. Any other nicer girl-friendly hotels in Sosúa that are quite close to the action? I understand the Hotel Europa is for the more budget-minded.

I hope my questions and the answers to them might prove useful to those who wish to visit Sosúa.

Marc Anthony
06-05-07, 12:23
"Quality" Haitian girls - pretty, dressed well, with manners, more upscale - will speak french as well as kreyol and tend to gravitate to french speaking establishments in Sosua. Ask around for bars where french is spoken, there's one past the discos in the direction of the beach on Clisante.These girls appreciate being treated with respect and courtesy. It's strange after struggling to get along with chicas in spanish to find chicas who don't speak spanish at all. All Haitianas speak Kreyol and they are often fascinated by any effort by a blanc to speak it so that's not a waste of time.

Any Haitian in Sosua is comparatively comfortable in DR society. There are many more haitians who would be afraid to leave the batey (the tourist part of Sosua is called "El Batey", but bateyes are originally cane cutter's quarters near the mills - effectively haitian ghettos). There are bateyes any place sugar cane is grown. Locally there are several off the main road between Sosua and Puerto Plata- especially by Monte Llano. Batey Haitianas are unpolished and generally speak only Kreyol, but on the other hand can be unspoiled, appreciative, and can still have that perfect butt.

Freetime
06-05-07, 17:26
Have my first trip to the DR coming up in July. Will be in Sousua for 10 days. I have a questions on prices. As I look over the diferent post here I see lot of different prices listed. I only speak English so want to have a good idea on what I should expect to pay for an all nighter. I pefer LT over ST. The one amount I saw several times was 1500 for LT and 1000 for ST; is that the average for Sousua? Is that in clubs or for free lance workers? Can I expect to pay more in different clubs and less in others?

Ford
06-05-07, 17:38
Marc Anthony & Member 2128 pretty much covered the bases, when it comes to the Haitian girls in the DR. 5 years ago you'd have to make special arrangements to meet one - now they're all over!

But Also, on the main Pedro Clisante strip - Haitian girls tend to hang out at Bar Central. Its the somewhat subdued bar with the Fleur-de-lis's on the sign directly in between the Merengue Bar and Classico Disco.

cheers........

Bkgee
06-05-07, 20:35
Places to stay in Sousa. I am going to Sousa in July, where are places to stay for mongering and the current cost for chicas.I would stay at Resedencial casa linda, great place, out of the way of the known sosua strip. I've stay twice in the last six months, next time I go I will there again.

Love Seeker
06-06-07, 00:31
Freetime,

I also prefer longtime girl friend experiences to short time. I would recommend that you not go to Sosua for your first trip to the DR. With no Spanish speaking ability Blackbeards in my opinion would be a much better option. At Blackbeards you do not have to negotiate with the girls the cost is 2500 pesos for LT and 1300 pesos for ST set for everyone.

In Sosua you will have to pay at least 2500 pesos for LT and many times the girl will not stay even if that was what was agreed to at the bar. The girls cell phone rings, sick mother, sick baby, ext.

Llttf
06-06-07, 01:07
Freetime,

In Sosua you will have to pay at least 2500 pesos for LT and many times the girl will not stay even if that was what was agreed to at the bar. The girls cell phone rings, sick mother, sick baby, ext.-I think you will find your estimates of 1000 pesos ST and 1500 LT are on the mark.

- In Sosua all girls in the clubs are freelancers except for Passions Massage.

-You do not need to speak spanish but learning some basic words will get you a long way, especially the numbers when it comes to negotiating.

- Do not negotiate in $'s as this gives you away as a newby and they will immediatly quote $100 which is double the going rate.

G

Smokers Rule
06-06-07, 04:42
My impression was that 2500 was high for Sosua. With some discussion, isn't 1500 possible?

Berthold
06-06-07, 08:50
My impression was that 2500 was high for Sosua. With some discussion, isn't 1500 possible?

I agree with you, during my last time in sosua in march 2007 i usually paid 1500 pesos for lt and most of the girls seemed to appreciate that. Well i am fluent in spanish, young and in good shape so maybe this helped for a bit.

Member #2128
06-06-07, 09:29
Cunning Linguist (great name, BTW),

Before you worry yourself silly about speaking the language of the Haitiana, you may be interested in learning how to spell it. As far as I know, it's Creole. Not Kreyole. If you want to learn it and have the means, knock yourself out! However, they understand French and will readily speak it with you. Or, even Spanish. The only one that won't work is ENGLISH!

Re: Dress Code

You will see that bringing your "slacks" and "dress shirts" will be a bit of a waste. Sosua is quite casual. Most of the monger tourists walk around in baggy shorts, baseball caps and flip flops, even at night. Long pants instead of shorts will make you look less a "typical" tourist, but jeans or casual long pants would do better than dress pants for sure, IMHO. On the down side, I think if you "dress up" it only raises the asking price in the same direction.

As an equal admirer of "Fuck Puppet's" lithe body, dark skin and especially toned tight stomach, I think she originated on the beaches of Boca Chica. Am I right?
Also, I don't know how you'd search it, but I believe that way back when, there was a great report about how she was found, named and used for routine pleasure....and how she had a sister, "Fuck Puppet's Sister"....or was it "Crack Girl's Sister"....classic reports, nevertheless. Was it Helpman? Marc Anthony? Can't recall. Whomever: Thanks for the memorable contributions. They live on in the minds of those....who remember these things! LOL

I've always wanted to visit those Haitian communities mentioned in one of the previous posts. The places where former sugar cane workers lived. There was a well-known one off the main Puerto Plata Road, down a side dirt road, at the corner where there was also the well-known monger hotel called Field of Dreams. Given the vague info, does anyone know what I'm talking about? Been there? Was it worth visiting for a monger opportunity with the "village" Haitianas? I never got there. I always got caught up in the public beach activity, flirting at the water side tables, buying the cutest ones beers and making dates.

Sooner, rather than later I hope,

#2128

Cunning Linguist
06-06-07, 11:19
Hello Member #2128 (thanks for the compliment on my nickname).

As a matter of fact, I have already started learning a bit of the Haitian language as a result of seeing photographs of "Fuck Puppet" (who may not even be Haitian) and Marc Anthony's Haitian beauty. As for the name of the language, well, in English it might be calle "Haitian Creole" but the Haitians say, and write, "Kreyòl". Kreyòl spelling is mind-bendingly phonetic and, for those who know French, it takes some getting used to. For example, "beswan" instead of "besoin". "Dousman" instead of "doucement", "konprann" instead of "comprends".

I don't wish to bore ISG members with grammatical essays and lessons on phonology but perhaps a few choice phrases might bring a smile or two on a cute Haitian babe's face. Why not?

I have tried to give a very approximate pronunciation. Please bear in mind that the capital "N" means that that the vowel is a nasal sound. That means that when you say koo-mawN , hold your nose when you say mawN (if you speak French or Portuguese, it is like "bon" or "bom"). My knowledge is still limited so I don't know how to say racier things. Sorry.


Sa ka fèt?
Sah kah fett?
how's it going?

Kouman ou rele?
Koo-mawN oo ray-lay?
what is your name?

Bonjou
BoN Zhoo (zh = s in treasure)
good day / good morning

Mwen se ameriken
moo-een say amerikayN
"I am a American"

Ki jan ou ye?
Kee zhaN oo yay?
How are you?


Mèsi
Messy (accent on sy)
Thanks

Souple
soo-play
please

Eske ou pale angle?
ess-kay oo pah-lay aN-glay?
Do you speak English?


Eske ou pale pannyòl?
ess-kay oo pah-lay pawn-yole?
Do you speak Spanish?

Kilaj ou?
Keel-ahsh oo?
How old are you?

Ou konpran?
oo koN-prawN?
Do you understand?

Konben?
KoN-BeN?
How much?

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Helpmann
06-06-07, 11:37
...As an equal admirer of "Fuck Puppet's" lithe body, dark skin and especially toned tight stomach, I think she originated on the beaches of Boca Chica. Am I right?
Also, I don't know how you'd search it, but I believe that way back when, there was a great report about how she was found, named and used for routine pleasure....and how she had a sister, "Fuck Puppet's Sister"....or was it "Crack Girl's Sister"....classic reports, nevertheless. Was it Helpman? Marc Anthony? Can't recall. Whomever: Thanks for the memorable contributions. They live on in the minds of those....who remember these things! LOLHer body was so pliable. I could do anything with that meat hole. Wrap her body in cellophane, fuck her face, chain her to the bed... she was my fuck puppet. With my cock inside her sleeve she would come alive.

-Helpmann :)

New Years in Boca (Let’s Go to the Movies!) (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=338568&postcount=598)
New Years in Boca (Great Day! a.k.a. the Gap-Toothed Girl) (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=338429&postcount=597)

Freetime
06-06-07, 13:56
What places give the best exchange rate?

Escort King
06-06-07, 15:36
My impression was that 2500 was high for Sosua. With some discussion, isn't 1500 possible?
If you have a little game..... but 2500 for a really hot girl means you are going to need something in your favor... I have heard 3 and 4k being floated out there and just a simple no 1500 is not getting them to agree and go with you.

Smokers Rule
06-06-07, 16:05
I will investigate this phenomenon and report back. It was mentioned below that being young and in good shape helps. Do you all think this is true? Again, I will investigate.

Bkgee
06-06-07, 19:30
If you have a little game..... but 2500 for a really hot girl means you are going to need something in your favor... I have heard 3 and 4k being floated out there and just a simple no 1500 is not getting them to agree and go with you.This true, I was just there. They 1500 for a short stay and 2000-3000 Lt, the game is getting a little ugly.

Member #2128
06-06-07, 21:25
Her body was so pliable. I could do anything with that meat hole. Wrap her body in cellophane, fuck her face, chain her to the bed... she was my fuck puppet. With my cock inside her sleeve she would come alive.

-Helpmann :)

New Years in Boca (Let’s Go to the Movies!) (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=338568&postcount=598)
New Years in Boca (Great Day! a.k.a. the Gap-Toothed Girl) (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=338429&postcount=597)

Helpmann----Thanks for the trip down memory lane. You be da BOMB! I remember those reports from 2000 f***ing 5 like yesterday. Those were the glory days of BC for shure. Everyday a party. I get a vibe that F.P was not much in the personality department. A bit dull before and after the nut? Well, as I've heard said, "Nobody's perfect".

Also, I picked up on something you said in your report:

<<<No free sex, no free money. I can only give her opportunities to earn cash and nothing else. Anything else (free money or free sex) will lead to problems and complicate things>>>

Helpmann, you are a wise mann. This is one of the many mongering truths, especially in 3rd World places like the DR, that will keep the train on the track.
Newbies, read and consider. Don't forget the rules of the game.

Thanks again for your terrific reports and for paying attention,

#2128

Member #2128
06-06-07, 21:59
As for the name of the language, well, in English it might be calle "Haitian Creole" but the Haitians say, and write, "Kreyòl". Kreyòl spelling is mind-bendingly phonetic and, for those who know French, it takes some getting used to. For example, "beswan" instead of "besoin". "Dousman" instead of "doucement", "konprann" instead of "comprends"

Sa ka fèt?
Sah kah fett?
how's it going?

Kouman ou rele?
Koo-mawN oo ray-lay?
what is your name?

Bonjou
BoN Zhoo (zh = s in treasure)
good day / good morning

Mwen se ameriken
moo-een say amerikayN
"I am a American"

Ki jan ou ye?
Kee zhaN oo yay?
How are you?


Mèsi
Messy (accent on sy)
Thanks

Souple
soo-play
please

Eske ou pale angle?
ess-kay oo pah-lay aN-glay?
Do you speak English?


Eske ou pale pannyòl?
ess-kay oo pah-lay pawn-yole?
Do you speak Spanish?

Kilaj ou?
Keel-ahsh oo?
How old are you?

Ou konpran?
oo koN-prawN?
Do you understand?

Konben?
KoN-BeN?
How much?

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.


Of course. Now I know why you call yourself Cunning LINGUIST! You enjoy the big puzzle that is language. And the benefits that come with being to charm in the mother tongue of a young bubble-butted Fuck Puppet. Yes, you are indeed Cunning!

Thanks for the lesson!

#2128

Cunning Linguist
06-06-07, 22:35
Hello,, #2128, I like to use my tongue for more than just talking. Cunnilingus and Cunning linguistics are my passions.

Strange though it might seem, I get a bigger kick out of eating a hot chick out than her giving me a BJ. I know, that might sound weird to some but different strokes for different folks.

I will keep members posted and informed about how my venture into Kreyòl turns out, complete with photographic evidence. To be sure, I also plan on doing Dominicanas.

I plan on staying at the New Garden hotel though I wonder if the adventure might be more interesting at Europa Hotel. Any thoughts out there about that? Casa Residencial even better? All I want is a girl-friendly hotel.

Though I don't want to sound arrogant, I really prefer to dress a little upscale since I honestly don't feel right in shorts, flipflops, a T-shirt and a baseball hat. If that means I have to pay more, so be it but, then again, maybe my Spanish/French/ Kreyòl might just make up for it. Anyway, who knows? Who cares? It is all a game. I just want to charm a hot chick into actually enjoying what she is doing, if that is indeed possible. As I said, it is all a part of the game.

Third World
06-06-07, 22:51
Bkgee,

How did you get in touch with the people at Residential Casa Linda? My buddy called and emailed them, and they took a long time returning his call. Once he spoke to someone, they were suppose to email him some information and he hasn't heard back from the guy. He will be down there June 22-29 but had to make reservations elsewhere because communication was so complicated with Residencial Casa Linda but he really wanted to stay there.

Also I plan on staying there in the fall and wanted to avoid this issue. What's the best way to correspond with them and which villas did you stay while you where there?

Sidney
06-07-07, 00:24
The Polica constantly harrass them. Polica often, very often, take them to the station, hold them illegally, molest them, until a friend bribes the Policia 3000 pesos. Haitians are afraid at all times! They can't walk from Secrets to the discos. They usually ride this short distance on moto-conchos. Certainly, they can never walk alone! Frankly, Dominicans and their representatives represent the most prejudicial behavior that I have personally witnessed in any country.

Helpmann
06-07-07, 01:14
Helpmann----Thanks for the trip down memory lane. You be da BOMB! I remember those reports from 2000 f***ing 5 like yesterday...Thanks for the compliment. No, Fuck Puppet has a very good attitude. If she didn't, I would have never fucked her a second time. Even though I haven't banged her in awhile, she always happy to see me and tells me how much she misses the handcuffs.

A lot of Boca Chica girls know me and I get along with most of them. Unfortunately, I just don't have the time or energy to bang them all, even at the price of RD$500 - RD$700. I usually keep my eyes out for girls under the age of 21 who are "8's" and above. I'll make an exception if I know the girl is a super-freak or if she's a "7" with a good attitude, who will cost me under RD$800.

I am happy to know that my previous posts were helpful, because ISG has been an incredibly useful for tool, not only my trips to the DR, but to Brazil, Cuba, Colombia, and Mid-town ;).

The DR is a wonderful place and I hope you continue to go. If you're in the neighborhood (Boca Chica) over Labor Day Weekend, let me know. I would love to tag team Fuck Puppet.

-Helpmann :)

Helpmann
06-07-07, 03:55
Bkgee,

How did you get in touch with the people at Residential Casa Linda? My buddy called and emailed them, and they took a long time returning his call. Once he spoke to someone, they were suppose to email him some information and he hasn't heard back from the guy. He will be down there June 22-29 but had to make reservations elsewhere because communication was so complicated with Residencial Casa Linda but he really wanted to stay there.

Also I plan on staying there in the fall and wanted to avoid this issue. What's the best way to correspond with them and which villas did you stay while you where there?Dude, call Bigi at Hispaniola Real Estate (M-F; 9am - 4pm.) I have rented villas at Casa Linda through them before. Hell, I was just there 2-months ago.

-Helpmann :)

www.hispaniolarealestate.com
(809) 571-2727

DR Monger II
06-07-07, 15:18
Freetime, I believe ATM's provide the best exchange rate. There are a lot of them in Sosua. Also, theres a bank at the airport (not the exchange money place near the baggage claim area) I think its called Banco Popular, you have to walk outside the airport, near the stores. It's close to the bathrooms. They have a descent exchange rate there. They will also exchange pesos into dollars for you when you return.

Member #2128
06-07-07, 19:34
I plan on staying at the New Garden hotel though I wonder if the adventure might be more interesting at Europa Hotel. Any thoughts out there about that? Casa Residencial even better? All I want is a girl-friendly hotel.

Though I don't want to sound arrogant, I really prefer to dress a little upscale since I honestly don't feel right in shorts, flipflops, a T-shirt and a baseball hat. If that means I have to pay more, so be it but, then again, maybe my Spanish/French/ Kreyòl might just make up for it. Anyway, who knows? Who cares? It is all a game. I just want to charm a hot chick into actually enjoying what she is doing, if that is indeed possible. As I said, it is all a part of the game.

C.L, you sound like a real gentleman! Now I'm REALLY looking forward to your report(s) when you return....or even better, take a short break each day and file them from one of the many internet cafes you will find in Sosua. It becomes a different experience when you report directly from the front!

One of the things that goes on, if you're a "nice guy" and easy-going about paying top dollar (or more!!), is that the chica/Haitiana in question will try to lock you up. They will refuse to leave you. They will show up unexpectedly. They will search you out wherever you go, like a peso-seeking missle. Of course, if this chica is the absolute girl of your dreams (another problem for you!), you may not mind any of this. However, if she was simply an hour of pleasurable diversion, you will find it quite annoying when she continually shows up when you're eating at a restaurant, or shouts your name from a distance...as she comes running up to you to continue the harassment. Unfortunately, Sosua can become a very small town! This kind of unwanted attention can carry on for your entire stay. Especially....if you start to throw the money around. It is, as you say, "a game", so it helps to be aware of the rules. IMHO, it can help to be "charming", but not too charming when comes to how much you pay.

Another member makes a good point in the previous post about the Haitianas being harrassed by policia, being afraid to walk alone at night, always looking over their shoulder. I experienced this as well. It can lead to behavior on their part that is confusing, but it's because they're afraid. Also, these same girls DO NOT HAVE CEDULAS, therefore, although the hotels you mention are "girl friendly", chicas cannot enter the premises without showing a CEDULA (I.D. CARD) at the front desk. Can be a problem. You may have to rent a ratty ST room for 300 RD$. It's a little less than $10 USD, but annoying to pay nevertheless. There's a convenient one that's not too bad and that everyone knows---Calypso?

When are you going...?

#2128

Member #2128
06-07-07, 19:48
[QUOTE=Helpmann

The DR is a wonderful place and I hope you continue to go. If you're in the neighborhood (Boca Chica) over Labor Day Weekend, let me know. I would love to tag team Fuck Puppet.

-Helpmann :)[/QUOTE]

Damn! Labor Day! Tag team! Fucking that skinny Fuck Puppet Forever?

Helpmann, you are cruel. Now I have to jerk off till September! LOL

Nevertheless, thanks for the generous invitation. I will keep you posted.

#2128

Ford
06-07-07, 21:09
The Polica constantly harrass them. Polica often, very often, take them to the station, hold them illegally, molest them, until a friend bribes the Policia 3000 pesos. Haitians are afraid at all times! They can't walk from Secrets to the discos. They usually ride this short distance on moto-conchos. Certainly, they can never walk alone! Frankly, Dominicans and their representatives represent the most prejudicial behavior that I have personally witnessed in any country.

Dominicanos do take advantage of Haitians and their pitiful economic condition. Chily, you are correct! They often work Haitian men for long miserable hours in the 96 degree Dominican heat for $6 USD or less a day.

However, taking advantage of an economically opressed people who are not comfortable with the local language and working them long hours at less than minimum wage - does that sound familiar?? ;)

It's wrong, and its inhumane but it goes on in the DR with illegal immigrants from Haiti and it goes on in the United States in the NYC suburbs with illegal immigrants, who aren't comfortable with the local language either.

However, instead of from Haiti - these people come from Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador and other Central American countries.

"It was always thus!" - as my grandfather might say.

cheers............

Third World
06-07-07, 23:05
Helpmann,

Thanks once again! You and Ford always come through rapido!

Marc Anthony
06-07-07, 23:12
The Polica constantly harrass them. Polica often, very often, take them to the station, hold them illegally, molest them, until a friend bribes the Policia 3000 pesos. Haitians are afraid at all times! They can't walk from Secrets to the discos. They usually ride this short distance on moto-conchos. Certainly, they can never walk alone! Frankly, Dominicans and their representatives represent the most prejudicial behavior that I have personally witnessed in any country.

I fully agree. I only meant to point out the distinction between the Haitians who are confident enough (informed, acculturated) to be out in Dominican Society and those who are so thoroughly cowed or intimidated that they are still unwilling to leave the ghetto. The Haitians you see in Sosua are the ones who despite the risks are experienced and brave enough to deal with the threats you're pointing out. A chica who is in Sosua risks detention and having to get her amiga to bribe the polica. The Bateye chica who has no amiga with 3000 pesos faces being put on the back of a truck and driven to the border at Dajabon. On the 6 hour trip she will get to entertain the soldiers (who will often not bother with details like condoms). Once there she will be put across the border with nothing, knowing nobody, with no sympathy. Haitians you see around in Sosua do not have it easy. I was just commenting that there is an invisible even larger population of Haitians who have it worse.

Man Can Bang
06-07-07, 23:16
Just came from a trip from 5/26--6/3. It rain for 5 days and screwing was all you have to do, ha ha ha. But this trip I've learn more about the cuture and DR/Hati girls. 1st thing1st. EYE CONTACT Look for 3 sec and act like you looking at somewhere us, But be cool about it, because that how the girls pursue you. I egnore them and act like I'm looking at someone else. By me doing that I had a good time at picking who I want. But that take a little practice because when you smile you can get yourself in lockdown by the girls. The DR Pip (Guy) are laughingstock, they beg more, I mean more than the women. Being a men in DR is the worse when it come to you not having a job or skills, the WORSE! THE LAST THING is Girl from other citys who come to Sosua to make $$$ said that the Sosua girls have more STD's because of there living near all the action. She warn me and my freind that don't go barebone unless you are crazy. Just alway wear a hat. The girls this year was more younger and nicer and the Hati girls was even better, lot more in shape BOY I HAD A WORKOUT.

Marc Anthony
06-07-07, 23:37
I'd never caught the reports you referenced and they are excellent. My one little Boca Chica experience in February was like being on the outside looking in. It's definitely no longer an "easy" mongering town but I could see the potential all around with more work and experience. Your reports illustrate what's possible.

Boca Chica is cheaper and easier for me to fly into than the north coast and you convince me that despite first appearances it's worth the effort.

Don't make poor FP wait too long for her esposas.

Helpmann
06-08-07, 01:43
I'd never caught the reports you referenced and they are excellent...Thanks. I have written approx. 25 full trip/day reports on the DR. Although, ISG has about half of those reports, most of my adventures during 2004 - 2006 are archived on two other "travel guide" sites.

-Helpmann :)

Capt Dps
06-08-07, 14:34
Man can bang

You bring up a good topic. Were are all the DR girls working? Or do they? IMHO the girls we are seeing at Sosua are all Haitians! Yes? Okay, they are of Haitian decent. DR citizens yes, But Haitian black decendants for sure. The DR As you know was occupied by Hatti for many years. One think is is for sure the light skin DR women are beautiful but rarely did I see any on the Sosua strip.

This site is the best for reading the skinny on the streets of all countries from those who know it the best. From sex to crime, food and fun.

So I'll post a stupid newbie mistake here. I was walking home from the disco to The New Garden by myself about midnight one night. This chica comes up to me around Rockies, She took out here tits and rub on me giving me the baby, baby song. The girl took my wallet out of my pocket. Emptied it of small Pesos and was putting the wallet back in my pocket before I caught on.

Now, I'm not a Newbie. I work and hunt at all the West African countries. Hopefully, It will not happen to someone who reads this report. The gir was slick, I have to give her that.

All the Best!

Cap

Cunning Linguist
06-08-07, 15:06
Hello Member veintiuno veintiocho,

I plan to be in the DR the first week of August, albeit for only about 4 days. Duty forces me to be in Sosua only a few days.

You mentioned in post #974 that a local girl or a Haitian might just latch on to me if I prove not only to be a reliable ATM, but a charming one as well. I have had that problem, of sorts, in Thailand but I was unaware of such a thing in the DR. I suppose that women are the same, no matter where they are from, whatever their cultural background.

My style is to pay only the going rate but I do get a kick out of buying girls a shirt, or jeans and giving them little presents such as perfume, not to mention inviting them to dinner or lunch. I prefer to spend the "extra money" this way rather than just throw extra money in the short time or long time (or TLN as they seem to say in Sosúa) fee. It is my understanding that if they are hustling a gringo, it is better if the gringo is kind, clean, good-looking, and even fun. I still think it is all more than just money for sex transaction if you play your cards right. I really like GFE, even if, in the very end, it is only a fleeting moment.

I really feel sorry for the poor Haitian girls and their plight there. In any case, many people seem to be reporting that there are many of them and many are hot. My mouth is drooling. I only hope that not all of them take to the razor.

I wonder whether a few dollars might persuade the people at a hotel to look the other way when it comes to a Haitian girl who is obviously over 18. Otherwise, the Calypso short-time hotel would seem to fit the bill.

How is security in Sosúa at night? My theory is that, unless he is a total drunken idiot sporting around an expensive camera along a dark street at night, the tourist is relatively safe since, after all, it is in Sosúa's own economic interest that tourists are not harmed.

On another note, I wonder if Helpmann could tell us whether Fuck Puppet is Haitian or a Dominican girl and whether she actually has a name. I envy whoever can get her over the Labor Day holiday.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Helpmann
06-09-07, 03:43
On another note, I wonder if Helpmann could tell us whether Fuck Puppet is Haitian or a Dominican girl and whether she actually has a name. I envy whoever can get her over the Labor Day holiday.She's Haitian and she still has a tight little body. Nevertheless, I don't publish her name or the names of other Boca Chica girls on the internet.

-Helpmann :)

Crazy Jim Wood
06-09-07, 16:06
...My question about learning some Kreyol went unanswered...

If you're serious about learning, "Ann Pale Kreyol" by Albert Valdman is one of the best language course out there (available from Amazon). I'm trying to attach a quick survival Haitian glossary. We'll see if it uploads.

It has some useful commands like follow my orders, lay down, open your mouth, I'm going to give you an injection, etc, which you may find useful.



...New Garden Hotel or Hotel Europa, Residencial...

Did you make a decision on your hotel? Were prices for all of these about the same? I am planning on making a trip of my own to Sosua for one week in July or August.

Thanks,
Jimbo

Bkgee
06-09-07, 18:27
If you have a little game..... but 2500 for a really hot girl means you are going to need something in your favor... I have heard 3 and 4k being floated out there and just a simple no 1500 is not getting them to agree and go with you.I was just there may28-june4, and yes they want 3000 pesos of the top, from following everyone on this forum, you have to talk them down. 1500 is for 1hr-1. 5hr tops, we was getting for 2000 for the night, from about 6-7pm until 12pm-1pm the next afternoon. The best chicas I've seen were at La Passion on the strip in sosua. Nothing but 7's and up!

Bkgee
06-09-07, 18:31
Bkgee,

How did you get in touch with the people at Residential Casa Linda? My buddy called and emailed them, and they took a long time returning his call. Once he spoke to someone, they were suppose to email him some information and he hasn't heard back from the guy. He will be down there June 22-29 but had to make reservations elsewhere because communication was so complicated with Residencial Casa Linda but he really wanted to stay there.

Also I plan on staying there in the fall and wanted to avoid this issue. What's the best way to correspond with them and which villas did you stay while you where there?I have a agent who books for us, everyone that he sends down there, they use casa linda, sent me your e-mail and we can see what we can do for you, [Email address deleted by Admin]

EDITOR's NOTE: This report was edited to remove email addresses in the text. Please do not post email addresses in the Forum. Instead, please invite other Forum Members to contact you directly via the Forum's Private Messaging system. Thanks!

Third World
06-09-07, 22:18
Bkgee,


I got in touch with them! Helpmann hit me off with some great info! So I'm good, thank you though.


By the way which villa did you stay in? How far was it from the action in Sousa mainly Classico? Do the guards let women come and go as they please or someone staying in the villa have to be with them? I'm trying to cut down on the theives LOL! I've heard there are alot of slick women down there. I never experienced it personally but one of my buddies had his money and camcorder stolen after he fell alseep with a chica in his room in Sousa.

Bkgee
06-10-07, 01:23
Bkgee,

I got in touch with them! Helpmann hit me off with some great info! So I'm good, thank you though.

By the way which villa did you stay in? How far was it from the action in Sousa mainly Classico? Do the guards let women come and go as they please or someone staying in the villa have to be with them? I'm trying to cut down on the theives LOL! I've heard there are alot of slick women down there. I never experienced it personally but one of my buddies had his money and camcorder stolen after he fell alseep with a chica in his room in Sousa.Yes someone from the villa has to be with the girl, these are armed security guards with shot guns. Once they have the I.D. at they gate let the party begin, as we did but naked in the swimming pool, LOL!, And as far as distance from the action 5 mins by car, if you can rent something small would be even better, and to let you know there's a gas station/grocery store right next to the villa.As far as classico (Club59) it was kool, but if you mess with a chick from there she will want to be with you everyday, so just to let you know they hound you, the hold srtip knew us, we were like the five horsemen, when we came they all came out, word spreads fast in sousa, the girls talk to damn much! p.s. the villa as a safe in one of the closets so your good, have fun man.

Bkgee
06-10-07, 01:30
Just came from a trip from 5/26--6/3. It rain for 5 days and screwing was all you have to do, ha ha ha. But this trip I've learn more about the cuture and DR/Hati girls. 1st thing1st. EYE CONTACT Look for 3 sec and act like you looking at somewhere us, But be cool about it, because that how the girls pursue you. I egnore them and act like I'm looking at someone else. By me doing that I had a good time at picking who I want. But that take a little practice because when you smile you can get yourself in lockdown by the girls. The DR Pip (Guy) are laughingstock, they beg more, I mean more than the women. Being a men in DR is the worse when it come to you not having a job or skills, the WORSE! THE LAST THING is Girl from other citys who come to Sosua to make $$$ said that the Sosua girls have more STD's because of there living near all the action. She warn me and my freind that don't go barebone unless you are crazy. Just alway wear a hat. The girls this year was more younger and nicer and the Hati girls was even better, lot more in shape BOY I HAD A WORKOUT.The women bring home the bacon down there, if the man is not working, also the men beat there women for there money!

Bkgee
06-10-07, 01:47
Bkgee,

I got in touch with them! Helpmann hit me off with some great info! So I'm good, thank you though.

By the way which villa did you stay in? How far was it from the action in Sousa mainly Classico? Do the guards let women come and go as they please or someone staying in the villa have to be with them? I'm trying to cut down on the theives LOL! I've heard there are alot of slick women down there. I never experienced it personally but one of my buddies had his money and camcorder stolen after he fell alseep with a chica in his room in Sousa.The villa was called Natilie.

Cunning Linguist
06-10-07, 12:29
If you're serious about learning, "Ann Pale Kreyol" by Albert Valdman is one of the best language course out there (available from Amazon). I'm trying to attach a quick survival Haitian glossary. We'll see if it uploads.

It has some useful commands like follow my orders, lay down, open your mouth, I'm going to give you an injection, etc, which you may find useful.


Did you make a decision on your hotel? Were prices for all of these about the same? I am planning on making a trip of my own to Sosua for one week in July or August.

Thanks,

JimboThank you very much for the tip and Mèsi for the glossary. Although it is a $245 course, I will definitely buy it. I think I will stay at the New Garden in deference to what some have said on the board. My only worry is finding a super hot legal Haitian (i.e. over 18) who does not have her ID (cédula) and therefore I will have to make use of a short-time hotel such as the Calypso. As far as I have been able to ascertain, the New Garden prices are slightly higher than Europa Plaza.

I will be staying there over a good part of the first week in August.

Oh, Jimbo, I found your discussion on other boards regarding sowing your DNA around the world to be fascinating. Although having kids with third world women (with mutual consent), and maintaining them is definitely not for everyone, it is an interesting for option for those who like "reproductive" mongering. LOL.

I still would appreciate it if other members would discuss the security situation in Sosúa and how to avoid being mugged or robbed or worse

Curry
06-10-07, 16:27
I was just there may28-june4, and yes they want 3000 pesos of the top, from following everyone on this forum, you have to talk them down. 1500 is for 1hr-1. 5hr tops, we was getting for 2000 for the night, from about 6-7pm until 12pm-1pm the next afternoon. The best chicas I've seen were at La Passion on the strip in sosua. Nothing but 7's and up!

Just for the sake of the members. You paid 2000 +. You said WE so that meant that you likely had a group of guys with you. Are you all from the Notheastern US? do you all speak Spanish? do you have any pics of these "hot girls". I only ask because

1.If you paid that much she better be taken some kind of pics. I dont care if their not nudes.

2.Guys from that region tend to have a reputation for overpaying for everything. Many of the girls have relatives that live in Washington Heights or NJ which has ,get this, the larget Dominican population outside of the DR and are constantly being told how little 2500-3000 is for Americans.As soon as you say your from NY/NJ you are a target.

3.I dont want to assume from your # of post but how many times have you and your squad been to DR? A lot of guys go down for the 1st or 2nd time and just blow dough.

I AM NOT SAYING BE FRUGAL. WE ALL COME DOWN TO HAVE A GOOD TIME.

But please bare mind that With the proper technique/ talk you could fuck 2 gorgeous girls in DR for 3000. Hell 3 okay lookers for 3000. Would any experienced travelers here disagree?

Get the pics up. Then maybe we can have a better understanding.

Crazy Jim Wood
06-10-07, 19:07
It seems like the prices are pretty firm for non-Spanish speakers. Is this a deal where girls will NOT go lower for someone who doesn't know the lingo, or is it a case of the non-Spanish speaking monger not holding out long enough to get a lower price? Or perhaps it is timing or other market conditions (your professional Spanish-speaking monger is hitting up girls for lower prices later in the night when the girl has already made some money or is afraid of going home alone where as the less-experienced, non-Spanish speaking monger is asking early in the night, etc)?

What's a guy who doesn't know Spanish supposed to do? I wouldn't want to cause inflation by paying too much.

Jimbo

Just for the sake of the members. You paid 2000 +. You said WE so that meant that you likely had a group of guys with you. Are you all from the Notheastern US? do you all speak Spanish? do you have any pics of these "hot girls". I only ask because

1.If you paid that much she better be taken some kind of pics. I dont care if their not nudes.

2.Guys from that region tend to have a reputation for overpaying for everything. Many of the girls have relatives that live in Washington Heights or NJ which has ,get this, the larget Dominican population outside of the DR and are constantly being told how little 2500-3000 is for Americans.As soon as you say your from NY/NJ you are a target.

3.I dont want to assume from your # of post but how many times have you and your squad been to DR? A lot of guys go down for the 1st or 2nd time and just blow dough.

I AM NOT SAYING BE FRUGAL. WE ALL COME DOWN TO HAVE A GOOD TIME.

But please bare mind that With the proper technique/ talk you could fuck 2 gorgeous girls in DR for 3000. Hell 3 okay lookers for 3000. Would any experienced travelers here disagree?

Get the pics up. Then maybe we can have a better understanding.

Helpmann
06-10-07, 19:42
It seems like the prices are pretty firm for non-Spanish speakers. Is this a deal where girls will NOT go lower for someone who doesn't know the lingo, or is it a case of the non-Spanish speaking monger not holding out long enough to get a lower price? Or perhaps it is timing or other market conditions (your professional Spanish-speaking monger is hitting up girls for lower prices later in the night when the girl has already made some money or is afraid of going home alone where as the less-experienced, non-Spanish speaking monger is asking early in the night, etc)?

What's a guy who doesn't know Spanish supposed to do? I wouldn't want to cause inflation by paying too much.

JimboThe 80% (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=548274&postcount=556)

The Hunt (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=548325&postcount=559)

Helpful Hints to Hunt (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=549079&postcount=588)

First Impression (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=553514&postcount=612)

BATNA (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=553695&postcount=616)

Happy Hunting! (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=546122&postcount=940)

-Helpmann :)

Ford
06-10-07, 20:34
Curry - You are being too kind my friend. Any girl you sleep with for 2000RDP in Sosua -had better pose for photos in the nude! I don't like making generalizations, but in large measure you are also correct about guys from the northeast USA. They have a bit of a "rep" for "hitting the DR" with "their crew" and overpaying. They have a "rep" for being somewhat unsophisticated mongers.

I have dozens of aquaintenances from NYC that are like that. I think it gives me some license to make that generalization. Also, I was born and raised in NYC, educated here - but please don't blame me! ;)

Crazy Jim Wood - I think the issue is that in a "hobby" that is so dependent on your skills of negotiating - speaking Spanish puts you at a tremendous advantage. Do you absolutely have to speak Spanish in Latin America to get laid? No, of course not.

I know some career US Navy guys who get shore leave in Cartagena for 3 days and they tape $50 bills to their foreheads and run around town like idiots. They get laid too but I'd kind of gotten the impression that members of this board were looking for something more though!

Another shot of Maria. Met her in Crystals in Puerto Plata. Paid 2000RDP plus "vig" to the house.

Then took her again the very next night back in Sosua for all night till 12 noon the next day. Paid 2000RDP. Got photos - nude, dressed - and everything else I wanted!

Very gfe, very agreeable to everything - worth 2000rdp! :)

(Of course I negotiated everything in fluent Spanish first)

cheers mates.............

Crazy Jim Wood
06-10-07, 22:38
Helpmann,

I think it costs twice as much for me to go to Brazil as to DR, I don't think that I will save enough on chicas to make it worth it. Plus, I have been following the DR thread for a while and want to give it a shot.

The issue isn't only money, either: I don't want to look stupid paying to much, and I want to make sure it is GFE as much as possible.

I am more interested in gazelles as you put it than tigresses--and I am more interested in fairer skinned women. It seems many others on the forum think Boca Chica is played out, but I guess you think Boca Chica is a better bet than Sosua?

I will only be there for a week but it would be nice to get to know a few places. Perhaps I should stay a few days at each.

Thanks (Thanks to Ford as well),
Jimbo


The 80% (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=548274&postcount=556)

The Hunt (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=548325&postcount=559)

Helpful Hints to Hunt (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=549079&postcount=588)

First Impression (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=553514&postcount=612)

BATNA (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=553695&postcount=616)

Happy Hunting! (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=546122&postcount=940)

-Helpmann :)

Helpmann
06-10-07, 23:06
It seems like the prices are pretty firm for non-Spanish speakers. Is this a deal where girls will NOT go lower for someone who doesn't know the lingo, or is it a case of the non-Spanish speaking monger not holding out long enough to get a lower price? Or perhaps it is timing or other market conditions (your professional Spanish-speaking monger is hitting up girls for lower prices later in the night when the girl has already made some money or is afraid of going home alone where as the less-experienced, non-Spanish speaking monger is asking early in the night, etc)?

What's a guy who doesn't know Spanish supposed to do? I wouldn't want to cause inflation by paying too much.

JimboHere it is folks! This scenario says it all.

BTW: For the mentally challenged, please substitute "Bombay" w/ "Santo Domingo", "pot" w/ "pussy," and "he" w/ "she."

-Helpmann ;)


Excerpt taken from the book "Getting to YES" by: Fisher and URY

"Consider a wealthy tourist who wants to buy a small brass pot for a modest price from a vendor at the Bombay railroad station. The vendor may be poor, but he is likely to know the market. If he does not sell the pot to this tourist, he can sell it to another. From his experience he can estimate when and for how much he could sell it to someone else. The tourist may be wealthy and "powerful," but in this negotiation he will be weak indeed unless he knows approximately how much it would cost and how difficult it would be to find a comparable pot elsewhere. He is almost certain either to miss his chance to buy such a pot or to pay too high a price. The tourist's wealth in no way strengthens his negotiating power. If apparent, it weakens his ability to buy the pot at a low price. In order to convert that wealth into negotitiating power, the tourist would have to apply it to learn about the price at which he could buy an equally or more attractive brass pot somewhere else."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BATNA

Helpmann
06-10-07, 23:13
I am more interested in gazelles as you put it than tigresses--and I am more interested in fairer skinned women. It seems many others on the forum think Boca Chica is played out, but I guess you think Boca Chica is a better bet than Sosua?Boca Chica Ain't For Newbies! (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=563605&postcount=977)

-Helpmann :)

Cunning Linguist
06-10-07, 23:27
Hail Oh Great Helpmann!

In reading your experience as the Lion King lying in wait, you mention that a good place is essential while waiting for the gazelles.

You mentioned a place in Boca Chica but exactly where in Sosúa would you recommend a strategic place to stake out, e.g. lie in wait for a scrumptious gazelle. By tigress, I suppose that you mean a ***** with an attitude or sticky fingers.

From what you say, gazelles seem to be rather challenging to find.

1. They must be under 21 or 20
2. They can't be on the prowl after dark. Gazelles head home.
3. They can't be Haitian
4. They aren't the ones who approach you
5. They don't hang around Classicos

I hope I have got the essentials. Maybe a few pictures that illustrate what constitutes a tigress and what consitutes a gazelle might help the likes of such as we. Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words.

In any case, thank you for sharing your seasoned experience

Helpmann
06-11-07, 02:02
Hail Oh Great Helpmann!

In reading your experience as the Lion King lying in wait, you mention that a good place is essential while waiting for the gazelles.

You mentioned a place in Boca Chica but exactly where in Sosúa would you recommend a strategic place to stake out, e.g. lie in wait for a scrumptious gazelle. By tigress, I suppose that you mean a ***** with an attitude or sticky fingers.

From what you say, gazelles seem to be rather challenging to find.

1. They must be under 21 or 20
2. They can't be on the prowl after dark. Gazelles head home.
3. They can't be Haitian
4. They aren't the ones who approach you
5. They don't hang around Classicos1. Location, location, location. It's the most important. It's the reason why you're in the DR and not the Bahamas. It's the reason why you're in Sosua and not Punta Cana. Yes, there are gazelles at Classicos (less at night on Duarte's Boca Chica); however, there mixed in with so many more tigres, it's hard to spot them. Also, good girls go home at night. Only once in a blue moon will you catch them working the discos at night.

2. On average, I find Haitian girls more hardened than Dominican girls. Nevertheless, I've met Haitian gazelles. Hell, Fuck Puppet is Haitian. There are no hard and fast rules, just guidelines. When the girl has too many "checks" to her name, walk away.

3. Age is also not a hard and fast rule. Age is generally linked to experience. Knowledge of her market worth (gained through experience.) Also, girls become hard through their negative experiences with Dominicans and foreigners.

You have to evaluate the girl on several measures. You cannot discount her if she fails one or two guidelines.

In reference to a tigress, it's a woman who isn't going to fuck you right. It's a woman who is going to try to steal from you or renegotiate. It's a woman you don't want to fuck again.

-Helpmann :)

Helpmann
06-11-07, 03:37
...I hope I have got the essentials. Maybe a few pictures that illustrate what constitutes a tigress and what consitutes a gazelle might help the likes of such as we. Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words...
Tigress (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=72469)

Gazelle (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=66272)

Curry
06-11-07, 06:16
Helpmann,



The issue isn't only money, either: I don't want to look stupid paying to much, and I want to make sure it is GFE as much as possible.

I am more interested in gazelles as you put it than tigresses--and I am more interested in fairer skinned women.

Thanks (Thanks to Ford as well),
Jimbo

Just say lighter complexion or European. the DR is not "fair' for 1st timers nor does it have an overabundance of available/inexpensiVe to cheap "fair" skinned talent.Most Dominicans have more African ancestry in common than Spanish ancestry as evidenced by the presence of dominat African features.Most of the girls will be darker skinned (I love it!) but of course there are exceptions.Do you like "fair" skinned black woman? They have those in every flavor from Licorice to Chocolate to Cinnamon to Mocha to Vanilla.
My point is this. If you are looking for a more European type bare in mind that

1.There are many in Santiago (where if you dont speak Spanish or have a visa to give away you wont be screwin anyones daughter)

2.They are present in the capital but tend to be part of a higher economic status.NOT ALL OF THEM BUT SOME.Longterm effects of colonization ETC.In short. They dont want or need your money.

3.They generally cost more so yes. You will likely look like a fool paying too much.

Considering your preference, Why not try Colombia or Costa Rica?

GrouchoMarx
06-11-07, 12:35
There is a beach restaurant called Siempre Sol. It belongs to a multilingual Dutchman named Hermann. You can go there, and have a snack while picking Hermann's brains. He seems to know every chica on the beach, has many of their phone numbers, and will happily share his knowledge. One word of caution however. Hermann exploits his waitress badly. They earn 3,000 pesos monthly (supposedly plus tips). Please put your tip directly into her hand. Otherwise she will never see it. What a piece of work!