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Chief Justice
10-20-11, 09:34
Just spent 10 days in sosua. Stayed at my buddies home in casalinda. I met up with an old fling from santo domingo. A beautiful blonde that use to work at passions. We spent five days together. I always rent a car when I'm down there. Everybody should go spend a day at the beach in playa grande. Beautiful it is. After having enough of lorenas attitude. I sent her home and lived at classicos for a few nights. And spent most of in caberete at the ocean sands casino. See you guys down there in April!Is Lorena that good? I know a few guys that wifed her up.
Manizales911
10-20-11, 13:32
As always, I appreciate the feedback. Actually, on my last trip I took my buddies up to Cabarete. It was kinda slow, but we had a fantastic meal basically right on the beach. It was a down a bit from Nikki Beach. I like the feel of Cabarete. That night they were setting up a stage for live music, but we didn't make it back out there. I can imagine the scene in high season.
I do plan on venturing out some this time around. I will definitely make that trip to Puerto Plata and report back and I will swing back by Cabarete to see how that develops. This trip is not all about pussy. I'm stressed by these financial markets and I need a break. Of course, I'm going to get me some pussy, but I definitely won't run through 10 this time. Two multi night companions would be ideal. I had blast dancing my ass off in Classicos, but toward the end of the night, I swear one of those Chica's were going to stab me. I was flirting my ass off.
I came very close to pulling one of the barmaids from Merengue. She was put off on the fact that I stayed at NG. It was a thrill just to chat with her and not try to talk up on some ass and not have her try to instantly dig in my pockets. It was a good time just talking and joking about the madness surrounding us. Man, I blew that one.
Can someone recommend nice accomodations that are guest friendly? I don't want to rent an entire house in Casa Linda, but a condo would be ideal. I would prefer something close to Sosua, but it is not entirely necessary. Sosua by the sea doesn't seem to be all that great nor does Terra Linda. I'm not a snob, but those pics and what I saw from the outside just doesn't seem all that appealing.
I encourage everyone to get out and see the surrounding areas. I had blast on my ATV tour. I'm so glad I didn't buy that candy and toss it to the kids. It just doesn't seem right. At the very least, hand it to them at the rest area. Instead, I bought a lot of them some beef patties this lady was selling from her cart. Those smiles were infectious. I love the Dominican Republic. Maybe it is because I am AA, but I feel so calm down there. It is nice change of pace. If I were really well off, I would definitely own some property down there. That day is coming.
Mr. Gogo, I thank you for your compliments. I was so passionate about my first trip that I really did try to pour my all into it. It also motivated me to increase my Spanish. I will forever be hunted by that memory of the honey in Santo Domingo that I couldn't close on because my skills were lacking. Damn.
The honey's in the DR prefer Hennessey, so I will hit up duty free for a nice fat bottle of Hennessey Black. It will be good times!Las Terrazzas condos at the very end of DR Rosen is a nice condo complex, I have stayed there a few times.
SkillfulRabbit
10-20-11, 15:55
How you doing fellow mongers. I was just curious 2 kno which hotel is best that is chica friendly. I've been lookin at Casa Valeria, Sea Breeze or Casa Cayena (breakfast I heard is great there). I want to be around the block from Classicos. I'm use to staying at Hispaniola Villas. Now it's time for a change.
Coolie High
10-20-11, 16:17
Wow, then The Chocolate Jackhammer is totally melted,
Down to a chocolate puddle with a small mallet, LOL. I know damn well, you have a better,
Chance at surviving being struck by a train, at 100mph, than spray in a putas hair. Haha,
Me and Tomjackin was just having fun. I was born at night, but it wasnt LAST NIGHT!
I will seek out Patricia, I'm a hunter warrior, but a good Hunter knows when to retreat,
And Run like hell. LOL! But I'm gunna at least comeout firing both barrells, but dammit!
Her toes better be pedicured, or my wierd ass gunna abort this ill fated mission, and.
Concede to the Mastaa Monger Tomjackin. Bigg Upps Coolie High. I got 5 on, your.
Next Sambuca. You Call it. But my square ass, don't drink so ill pour out some kool.
Aid, in honor of Coolie High. Ma brutha from anotha mutha.LMFAO! Enough talk Chocolate Jackhammer. Get your ass down there and smash that punta til your feet cramp LOL. And since you don't drink sambuca have 2 shots of kool-aid. One for me and TomJackin LOL
How you doing fellow mongers. I was just curious 2 kno which hotel is best that is chica friendly. I've been lookin at Casa Valeria, Sea Breeze or Casa Cayena (breakfast I heard is great there). I want to be around the block from Classicos. I'm use to staying at Hispaniola Villas. Now it's time for a change.I stayed at Casa Cayena recently and can really recommend it. Good breakfast, very girl friendly (girls must have cedula) , nice pool, and a very helpful staff.
Price was 55 USD breakfast included.
Thanks frannie and mr. John. I think I'm just going to stay in Sosua for my 5days and really scope everything out. Despite all the rumors about sosua being "dead" I'm still going to take that chance. I really hope I have alott of fun. And I will bring back a juicy report with tons of photos from my new 10megapixel camera haha.No, Sosua is not "dead" whatever that means. OK a couple of restaurants have closed down, and maybe the beach is not crowded except on Dominican holidays, but there are plenty or restaurants and bars open and as far as chicas there are still plenty to choose from. I spent 2 months this summer in Sosua and you would think I know every chica in town by sight, but when people post photographs on this board I NEVER recognize the girls, even the ones everyone here seems to know. So just to say that the chicascape is constantly changing and really you only need to meet a couple you really like, who maybe just showed up yesterday to have a great vacation.
Interesting point raised in another post that a chica working in a bar was reluctant to date a guy because he was staying at the New Garden. That is exactly why I would never stay there. It is not that it isn't a nice hotel, reasonably priced, with good amenities, which I am sure that it is, but just that it has a reputation in the town as a place for hard core mongers, which makes some chicas who are not so hard core reluctant to go there as it will damage their reputations.
So even if you are a hard core monger, but want to just pass as regular guy, your cover will quickly be blown if you admit to residence at the NG.
Sosua is like a large village, and although it will not be apparent to you as a new arrival, everyone knows everyone else and their business. Remember that island people often don't move far from where they were born, and that chica may have been a classmate of that motoconcho driver or hotel maintenance guy since the age of 6.
Charles Pooter
10-20-11, 19:00
No, Sosua is not "dead" whatever that means. OK a couple of restaurants have closed down, and maybe the beach is not crowded except on Dominican holidays, but there are plenty or restaurants and bars open and as far as chicas there are still plenty to choose from. I spent 2 months this summer in Sosua and you would think I know every chica in town by sight, but when people post photographs on this board I NEVER recognize the girls, even the ones everyone here seems to know. So just to say that the chicascape is constantly changing and really you only need to meet a couple you really like, who maybe just showed up yesterday to have a great vacation.
Interesting point raised in another post that a chica working in a bar was reluctant to date a guy because he was staying at the New Garden. That is exactly why I would never stay there. It is not that it isn't a nice hotel, reasonably priced, with good amenities, which I am sure that it is, but just that it has a reputation in the town as a place for hard core mongers, which makes some chicas who are not so hard core reluctant to go there as it will damage their reputations.
So even if you are a hard core monger, but want to just pass as regular guy, your cover will quickly be blown if you admit to residence at the NG.
Sosua is like a large village, and although it will not be apparent to you as a new arrival, everyone knows everyone else and their business. Remember that island people often don't move far from where they were born, and that chica may have been a classmate of that motoconcho driver or hotel maintenance guy since the age of 6.Excellent post, Frannie. I endorse every point you make.
I stayed at Casa Cayena recently and can really recommend it. Good breakfast, very girl friendly (girls must have cedula) , nice pool, and a very helpful staff.
Price was 55 USD breakfast included.Was checking on the internet for Casa Cayena, according to Google maps would be in the Los Charamicos Sector, was alway's told that sector was dangerous? Do you need to take a motochonco every times that you want to go downtown? Is the sector quiet at night or there is a constant traffic of Motoconchos? I would appreciate if you could let me know. Thanks
Hillbilly69
10-21-11, 00:46
Was checking on the internet for Casa Cayena, according to Google maps would be in the Los Charamicos Sector, was alway's told that sector was dangerous? Do you need to take a motochonco every times that you want to go downtown? Is the sector quiet at night or there is a constant traffic of Motoconchos? I would appreciate if you could let me know. ThanksNo you are just down the street from New Garden across the street from El Sucko I mean Rancho, I made you a map. http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=202115846141467908565.0004afc37912917c547ae
Bad Apple2
10-21-11, 02:06
Is Lorena that good? I know a few guys that wifed her up.No she isn't. Hence the reason only 5 days were spent with her. Probably 3 too many!
Manizales911
10-21-11, 02:40
How you doing fellow mongers. I was just curious 2 kno which hotel is best that is chica friendly. I've been lookin at Casa Valeria, Sea Breeze or Casa Cayena (breakfast I heard is great there). I want to be around the block from Classicos. I'm use to staying at Hispaniola Villas. Now it's time for a change.Casa Valeria is nice, never been to Casa Cayena but if you stay at Sea Breeze and you are used to staying at the Hispanolia Villas it is going from one extreme to the other, the Sea Breeze is a freeking dump.
SavePros321
10-21-11, 05:36
I've been out of the digital camera market for a while. Can anyone recommend a good digital camera in the 10 megapixel range that is light weight and slim enough to fit in your pocket? Anyone except the Canon Digital Elph. Had that one before and it's not as slim as I would like it to be (makes a bulge in your pocket). Plus that one got jacked by either the Dominicans or TSA somewhere between POP and MIA International on the return flight. I was smart enough to remove the SD card though :)
I've been out of the digital camera market for a while. Can anyone recommend a good digital camera in the 10 megapixel range that is light weight and slim enough to fit in your pocket? Anyone except the Canon Digital Elph. Had that one before and it's not as slim as I would like it to be (makes a bulge in your pocket). Plus that one got jacked by either the Dominicans or TSA somewhere between POP and MIA International on the return flight. I was smart enough to remove the SD card though :)Here's the deal bro. A lot of new cell phones that are coming out have at least a 8 megapixel camera and 1080i video. But from what I understand anything over 8 megapixels you won't really notice the difference unless you are blowing them up to a wall murell type picture. My camera is 15 megapixels but after experimenting with it I've noticed its the best at slowing down moving objects. If your thinking about upgrading you cell it might be a good idea to get a good camera. Bro I keep my laptop, camera. Cell, passport, and important documents in my carry on bag. POP got me for an 100usd bottle of cologne one time but now they only get old spice. For what you invest in agood digital camera you might be better of investing in agood cell phone, unless you do pro photography.
I've been out of the digital camera market for a while. Can anyone recommend a good digital camera in the 10 megapixel range that is light weight and slim enough to fit in your pocket? Anyone except the Canon Digital Elph. Had that one before and it's not as slim as I would like it to be (makes a bulge in your pocket). Plus that one got jacked by either the Dominicans or TSA somewhere between POP and MIA International on the return flight. I was smart enough to remove the SD card though :)Here is a video I made wth my 10 mega pixel Panasonic lumix 10mp camera from BB bikini comtest in July 2011. I posted it in the Gogo forum but no one paid attention. The week after I posted it guys were asking in the Puerto Plata forum what the chics looked like. I've noticed that the key is you can stay with the shot and the camera will catch it. Don't be afraid of moving targets. Just for everyone who thinks I gave up on the Gogo forum, you're wrong. There is a lot of good stuff there but a lot of newbies arent interested in the past. So I will fall back to updated it in a month or so. Thanks to the guys that did support the Gogo forum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsMQ92PUIOM
I've been out of the digital camera market for a while. Can anyone recommend a good digital camera in the 10 megapixel range that is light weight and slim enough to fit in your pocket? Anyone except the Canon Digital Elph. Had that one before and it's not as slim as I would like it to be (makes a bulge in your pocket). Plus that one got jacked by either the Dominicans or TSA somewhere between POP and MIA International on the return flight. I was smart enough to remove the SD card though :)Bro,
Forget about Digital Elph, they are outdated, try this new camera www.lytro.com.399$ will get you a very compact camera,
Once you take the picture using this camera, you can focus on any part you want! By just clicking on the photo. ISG member will be very happy.
To focus on every part of the picture you are going to post. Good Luck.
SavePros321
10-21-11, 09:15
Here's the deal bro. A lot of new cell phones that are coming out have at least a 8 megapixel camera and 1080i video. But from what I understand anything over 8 megapixels you won't really notice the difference unless you are blowing them up to a wall murell type picture. My camera is 15 megapixels but after experimenting with it I've noticed its the best at slowing down moving objects. If your thinking about upgrading you cell it might be a good idea to get a good camera. Bro I keep my laptop, camera. Cell, passport, and important documents in my carry on bag. POP got me for an 100usd bottle of cologne one time but now they only get old spice. For what you invest in agood digital camera you might be better of investing in agood cell phone, unless you do pro photography.Yeah, I wasn't paying attention and should have know better. I also only carry my laptop and camera in my carry-on but for some strange reason I tossed it into my check baggage that time while packing up my stuff.
The one thing I hate about electronics these days is that they make everything so redundant. I like that Lumix and it is in the price range I was looking for, but it also shoots HD video. I already have a Panasonic HDC-TM55K camcorder that will take 5MP photos, so it will probably be a waste of money to buy a video-shooting digital camera. Plus for me, holding a camcorder while "doing the do" works out a lot better then trying to record "the do" while holding a digital camera, lol. But yeah, for "touristy" type photos (outside of the bedroom) I might still consider the Lumix. The main drawback to camera phones is that they don't have a flash feature (which would be useful in MP settings ;)).
I have a canon powershot g12. I been really happy with the images I get with it. It may be alittle bit big but still fit in a pants pocket. The canon s100 pretty much have the sane stuff as the g12, but with better processor, faster lens, and smaller.
I've been out of the digital camera market for a while. Can anyone recommend a good digital camera in the 10 megapixel range that is light weight and slim enough to fit in your pocket? Anyone except the Canon Digital Elph. Had that one before and it's not as slim as I would like it to be (makes a bulge in your pocket). Plus that one got jacked by either the Dominicans or TSA somewhere between POP and MIA International on the return flight. I was smart enough to remove the SD card though :)Fujifilm Finepix Z70 Blue 12. 0 MP 2. 7" 230K LCD 5X Optical Zoom Digital Camera, recertified. $64US, with promo code "EMCJKHK76" the price is $54US (good till 10-22-11) at Newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16830122380&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL102011&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL102011-_-EMC-102011-Index-_-PointShoot-_-30122380-L010A
Chief Justice
10-21-11, 20:40
No she isn't. Hence the reason only 5 days were spent with her. Probably 3 too many!Whts bad about her? I know a dude that wifes her up for several days. Is the pussy good? She a freak?
SavePros321
10-21-11, 21:21
Fujifilm Finepix Z70 Blue 12. 0 MP 2. 7" 230K LCD 5X Optical Zoom Digital Camera, recertified. $64US, with promo code "EMCJKHK76" the price is $54US (good till 10-22-11) at Newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16830122380&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL102011&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL102011-_-EMC-102011-Index-_-PointShoot-_-30122380-L010ADamn, this one is even better price-wise. Thanks!
Hillbilly69
10-21-11, 21:43
Damn, this one is even better price-wise. Thanks!They make cameras smaller all the time and better. If you have an ABC warehouse in your area the typically have closeout cameras cheap and Walmart usually has clearance cameras at each store. I think I have had about 20 digital cameras Sony was my favorite but too big for my pocket but now my Canon is my favorite the 780IS I guess is the name of it but I travel with an Olympus Shock proof waterproof with floatable handle (bought my last one on Ebay) that I take to beach and underwater nudies at times. Be sure you get camera with lithium rechargeable battery those AA battery cameras suck.
Damn, this one is even better price-wise. Thanks!I had a $400US camera stolen in DR years ago. My trip this past July, I was on the second floor balcony of a hotel in Juan Dolio, the camera slipped out of my hand, hit the floor and slid off the balcony, it didn't work after that (that was a $140US camera).
Now, a not very expensive camera is good enough for me in DR.
BlackCloud
10-22-11, 01:53
People keep posting that "Sosua is dead " "it is not like it used to be ".
Well I have been in Sosua at least 1 time per Month since Jan (2011)
. During the day & early evening (10AM .7 PM) the chicas are 5 to 1.
At Night from 9. The sun comes up the ratio is "ONLY" 10 chicas to 1.
I don know how it used to be but for me this is a pretty good ratio.
If this is what they are calling DEAD. Then I love dead.
There is a new one one the market, Nikon Coolpix AW100. Waterproof to 10m. Compact. 16 MP. Records HD movies. Image stabilization. GPS.
Bad Apple2
10-22-11, 14:04
Whts bad about her? I know a dude that wifes her up for several days. Is the pussy good? She a freak?don't get me wrong, she is a fun girl. I think she actually likes some guy from the USA. Because she is thinking about marrying this guy. And I could tell she was preoccupied, and that wasntlike in any past experiences, so I ask her and she said she does love this gringo from USA. I just wanted to pay for 5 day service. A small little package name ruby was a much better time, I came accross at classico. Needless to say I wished her all the best, because there is a good heart in that girl. She isn't scamming like a lot of these girls!
I go back and forth on getting a camera, haven't owned one since my last Sony gave out on me. To me, it doesn't make much sense when most of newer smartphones have 5-8 meg cameras with HD video. I wouldn't pay more than 200 dollars for one, and I would need extra bells and whistles, like the ability to zoom into a bunda yards away, being able to take underwater pics, and 3D pics-those features places me in the resale / refurbished market since a camera with those specs falls in 300-400 dollar range.
I go back and forth on getting a camera, haven't owned one since my last Sony gave out on me. To me, it doesn't make much sense when most of newer smartphones have 5-8 meg cameras with HD video. I wouldn't pay more than 200 dollars for one, and I would need extra bells and whistles, like the ability to zoom into a bunda yards away, being able to take underwater pics, and 3D pics-those features places me in the resale / refurbished market since a camera with those specs falls in 300-400 dollar range.I would rather get robbed or lose a $75 camera than my smart phone, you can grab brand new and inexpensive older models on Amazon from reputable sellers.
I have way too much stuff on my smartphone, it stays in the safe.
they make cameras smaller all the time and better. if you have an abc warehouse in your area the typically have closeout cameras cheap and walmart usually has clearance cameras at each store. i think i have had about 20 digital cameras sony was my favorite but too big for my pocket but now my canon is my favorite the 780is i guess is the name of it but i travel with an olympus shock proof waterproof with floatable handle (bought my last one on ebay) that i take to beach and underwater nudies at times. be sure you get camera with lithium rechargeable battery those aa battery cameras suck.i have had many cameras for the last 10 years. as far as compact cameras canon has always been the best. i've had the 870is for a few years now and i'm thinking about buying a new one soon, but the 870is still takes great pictures. all i ever needed was i just bought a new battery for it.
canon will release a new camera soon, the s100. it's compact and will be the first to have the canon digic 5 image processor. 12 mp, wide angle pictures, hdmi output. 1080p video, a high speed video (slow-motion) mode, gps tagging, you can just turn on only the gps and you can look where your camera has been traveling (put it in your wife's car) a high-tech lens that will let in more light, iso has been bumped up to 6400, shoots 2. 3 pictures a second continuous (depending on mode,) or a special mode to shoot 8 pictures in less than a second, and a high quality 3 inch screen.
but this thing will start at $429. rumor says some bestbuy stores have sold some already. something that kind of freaked me out is i was playing with my iphone 4 yesterday and there was an option to view my pictures by where it was taken. sure enough it shows a world map with a folder of pictures from thailand, the dr, my city, my parents house, brothers house, ect ect. i know i disabled the iphone from keeping my gps locations on it. good thing i'm single or a sneaky lady could see i have been all over the place.
http://www.amazon.com/canon-powershot-s100-digital-stabilized/dp/b005mtme3u/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=utf8&qid=1319320232&sr=1-1
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canons100/
SavePros321
10-22-11, 23:23
I would rather get robbed or lose a $75 camera than my smart phone, you can grab brand new and inexpensive older models on Amazon from reputable sellers.
I have way too much stuff on my smartphone, it stays in the safe.Buscemi beat me to it. I usually take my iPhone with me while traveling but I only use it as an alarm clock and always keep it locked up in the safe outside of that. I can stand to lose a $75 camera, but my entire life is on my smart phone, LOL.
Chief Justice
10-23-11, 01:10
don't get me wrong, she is a fun girl. I think she actually likes some guy from the USA. Because she is thinking about marrying this guy. And I could tell she was preoccupied, and that wasntlike in any past experiences, so I ask her and she said she does love this gringo from USA. I just wanted to pay for 5 day service. A small little package name ruby was a much better time, I came accross at classico. Needless to say I wished her all the best, because there is a good heart in that girl. She isn't scamming like a lot of these girls!I think the guy she is referring to is the guy that I know that wifes her up.
Hillbilly69
10-23-11, 01:38
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Canon will release a new camera soon, the S100. But this thing will start at $429. [/url]
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canons100/I bought my Canon for $220 the 780IS the moment they hit the shelves now I see the camera for 100 bucks everywhere because the 14MP came out, I think same thing will happen with the 100 series as the 1st shock proof waterproof Olympus I bought cost 200 plus 2nd one like 120 on Ebay brand new with 14MP instead of my old 8MP. The wear and tear travel takes on cameras takes its toll, lost an Casio Exlim to the Cartagena sand it was the smallest compact at that time, an Olympus crystal Lcd quit working after about 8 trips. The Canons are no comparison though, the zoom those mofos have and the night pics they take are awesome.
Bad Apple2
10-23-11, 03:17
I think the guy she is referring to is the guy that I know that wifes her up.Probably is. All I know is that I won't be wasting a penny on her again. She obviously likes this guy and like I said to her. Good luck and wished her all the best with her future endevours.
AlwaysHorny 2
10-23-11, 03:45
It's official. I'm arriving around 3 pm on Dec. 6th. I would have wanted to stay until Monday, but I got work related shit fucking up the program. Oh well! At least I get a few days to settle in before the weekend really jumps off. This will give me a chance to survey other landscapes and chill out.
I need to hurry and lock down my accommodations. Has anybody stayed at Club Residencial? Does it have a reputation?
Gogo, I don't have pm rights. When I had to re register, I could not assume my old name for some reason and I lost my senior status. I tried emailing to get some assistance, but I didn't even get a reply. I'm being a cheap ass about paying for a membership, but it is more principle than anything. I would love to see your collection. I got a email address that is basically a catch for junk mail, so I don't mind publicly posting it on here. I plan on making my way to Columbia at some point, but I'm rolling solo to Barcelona / Ibiza for two weeks next year and after that my next major trip is Thailand. I hope I can squeeze that in soon.
Buscemi beat me to it. I usually take my iPhone with me while traveling but I only use it as an alarm clock and always keep it locked up in the safe outside of that. I can stand to lose a $75 camera, but my entire life is on my smart phone, LOL.Good point, but as newer phones develope and we upgrade sometimes the older smartphones weve upgraded from are perfect for what we need. They are expendable, have wifi, camera and video. My new smartphone also stays in the safe for security reasons, but also so I won't get roaming charges from people in the states talking bullshit. When I did that video from the BB bikini show, which no one commented on but had 400 views, I had my camera. 10usd DR phone and ipod, thats to much shit. My older 3g iphone that gathers dust would be great to have. I've given an old girlfriend in PP my old Blackberry which her Aunt took for baby sitting her child. My first iphone I gave to another girlfriend in PP then she called me crying saying it got taken by some guy. For all that I might as well keep my functional older smartphones for hanging out in the DR.
We sometimes need music, instant photography capability, video, and wifi for restaurants or cafes. Whatever you feel can serve these purposes for YOU is best.
Stole my diamond bracelet from the bathroom counter at ng.
Always be wary. Named "Sori".
Manizales911
10-23-11, 13:56
Stole my diamond bracelet from the bathroom counter at ng.
Always be wary. Named "Sori".BJ Lover, news flash. If you leave a diamond bracelet in the bathroom with a Sosua h00ker in the room it will get stolen at least 50% of the time. That was a big time newbie mistake. The bracelet shouldn't have even been in the country let alone unattended in the bathroom of a hotel in the DR.
Stole my diamond bracelet from the bathroom counter at ng.
Always be wary. Named "Sori".I had my cell phone stolen by a girl I had a while ago. Unfortunately she racked up some charges on it because unknown to me t-mobile had international calling plan on it. Fortunately T-moble was able to cut off after $500 charge. This happened because of my carelessness. I was tired from the flight and took the first good looking girl I saw on the way to the hotel. Luckily she did not steal any money from my wallet.
From then on I cancelled all international service from t-mobile. T-mobile insisted I keep the plan because it was free but I knew the charges were $2. 99 a minute.
Always the moment you get into another country hide the original sim card and insert the local sim card. Also nowadays I put my regular phone in safe deposit locker and carry a cheap phone only for local calls.
On mongering trips never take expensive jewellery, watch, lots of money and never ever think of the P4P girl with you is like your gf who will not steal. There are many girls who will not touch anything but given the opportunity will pocket the goods. Always lock up all valuable and carry only the local money. Even then one girl in manila stole 3000 pesos while I was sleeping. She was non working girl and stayed with me many times. Maybe she thought I would not notice. So you need to be carefull irrespective of if it is a working girl or not.
You do have to be careful these girls are poor and deperate. Deperation is an awful condition. So best advice is do not tempt them.
QUOTE=Sammon; 1209429]I had my cell phone stolen by a girl I had a while ago. Unfortunately she racked up some charges on it because unknown to me t-mobile had international calling plan on it. Fortunately T-moble was able to cut off after $500 charge. This happened because of my carelessness. I was tired from the flight and took the first good looking girl I saw on the way to the hotel. Luckily she did not steal any money from my wallet.
From then on I cancelled all international service from t-mobile. T-mobile insisted I keep the plan because it was free but I knew the charges were $2. 99 a minute.
Always the moment you get into another country hide the original sim card and insert the local sim card. Also nowadays I put my regular phone in safe deposit locker and carry a cheap phone only for local calls.
On mongering trips never take expensive jewellery, watch, lots of money and never ever think of the P4P girl with you is like your gf who will not steal. There are many girls who will not touch anything but given the opportunity will pocket the goods. Always lock up all valuable and carry only the local money. Even then one girl in manila stole 3000 pesos while I was sleeping. She was non working girl and stayed with me many times. Maybe she thought I would not notice. So you need to be carefull irrespective of if it is a working girl or not.[/QUOTE]
Professor 1
10-23-11, 17:12
I had my cell phone stolen by a girl I had a while ago. Unfortunately she racked up some charges on it because unknown to me t-mobile had international calling plan on it. Fortunately T-moble was able to cut off after $500 charge. This happened because of my carelessness.Brothers, we must be careful. I have my smart phone on autolock. It automatically locks 2 seconds after I stop using it for any reason. You must enter a password to use it, except to call 911 or the emergency number that you choose. All cell phones have this capability. Use it. While in a girl's bathroom in the hood outside Santo Domingo, I dropped my phone and did not realize it until ten minutes later. Her son brings it to me and asked, in Spanish, how to make a call. I told him it takes a special code. The girl was impressed. I can replace the phone and the contacts are connected to my gmail account. I do not need charges associated with theft.
Stole my diamond bracelet from the bathroom counter at ng.
Always be wary. Named "Sori".
Seriously, these girls will steal shampoo, toothpaste, and condoms, you think they they would pass on bling?
Was this your first trip to a third world country, or were you just drunk?
HINT: If you do not want it stolen, leave it home, or lock it in the safe (that is even questionable!)
Buscemi
Stole my diamond bracelet from the bathroom counter at ng.
Always be wary. Named "Sori".Who's Sori now?
Stole my diamond bracelet from the bathroom counter at ng.
Always be wary. Named "Sori".Hey BJ Lover,
Is that the same girl in my photos? This girl tried to pick my pockets in Classico last November!
Frannie,
"Who's Sori now?" I'm so happy I wasn't eating or drinking anything when I read that; I would have choked for sure.
BJ Lover, news flash. If you leave a diamond bracelet in the bathroom with a Sosua h00ker in the room it will get stolen at least 50% of the time. That was a big time newbie mistake. The bracelet shouldn't have even been in the country let alone unattended in the bathroom of a hotel in the DR.I'll take the criticism, but I am the farthest thing from a newbie you can be. I usually take all the precautions, but was temporarily lulled into believing the chicas I choose wouldn't be so bold. I jumped into shower, took off jewelry and left everything in the bathroom, contrary to my normal practice. Still, just take the warning on this particular chica.
Hey BJ Lover,
Is that the same girl in my photos? This girl tried to pick my pockets in Classico last November!
Frannie,
"Who's Sori now?" I'm so happy I wasn't eating or drinking anything when I read that; I would have choked for sure.Nice, but this is a different girl. Yeah, her name "sori" was not lost on me.
Stole my diamond bracelet from the bathroom counter at ng.
Always be wary. Named "Sori".Cute face.
Was she wearing a wig?
For stealing your stuff, Deep Impact should spray her Hair with a load from the chocolate jackhammer.
Nice, but this is a different girl. Yeah, her name "sori" was not lost on me.Not to argue with you, but that has got to be the same girl! She's a dead ringer, might even be wearing the same top.
Thanks for posting the warning. This is important information, not only the general advise about locking up valuables, but also specifics about girls who have a history or reputation for stealing. The first line of defense is to avoid this girl! Yes, it's always a good idea to avoid presenting temptation to them, but it can be difficult to avoid altogether. So some amount of trust is important, also check that all your valuables are still there before releasing the chica back into the wild!
I've never had anything stolen, I guess I've been lucky. But I do leave out my camera, for impromptu photo opportunities, and my smartphone doubles as an mp3 player, as well as clock and bedside alarm clock. My laptop is out most of the time too, although I've started using a cable lock for that. And I usually leave an amount, in my pants pocket, sufficient to cover the gift I was going to give the girl in the morning. If she steals that, it was hers anyway. And she'll be busted as a thief as soon as I reach into the pocket of the pants I was wearing the night before to find nothing there! It's just not practical to have everything locked up all the time.
Seriously, these girls will steal shampoo, toothpaste, and condoms, you think they they would pass on bling?
Was this your first trip to a third world country, or were you just drunk?
HINT: If you do not want it stolen, leave it home, or lock it in the safe (that is even questionable!)
BuscemiThis is so true. In a wink of an eye stuff will be gone. I have had penniless worth stolen, my used razor, phone charger, lotion tubes etc. It took me a while to realize they were stolen and I did not carelessly misplace them. One time I just stepped out of the door as someone was knocking and and I see this chica who just got out of the shower let go the hood of my bag on my return. I gave her a mouthful but thats when I confirmed she stole the razor as I had her the previous day too. It was an uneasy feeling but really what can you do. I had my car broken into in the US recently, so crime is everywhere, its up to you to take the precautions.
Mr Enternational
10-24-11, 05:07
Stole my diamond bracelet from the bathroom counter at ng. Always be wary. Named "Sori".Damn BJ. That is not the bracelet she is wearing in the photo is it? Or was that just a warm-up one? LOL.
Still fucked up though. I don't know why guys continue to bring this type of stuff out of their countries. When I'm leaving the USA all of that bullshit goes into the safe in my house and out comes the Timex Ironman. I remember being at the gate once going to Rio and spotted another monger with thousands of dollars worth of gold and diamonds. I told him that he should take that stuff off. His reply was that he wasn't going any farther than Help Disco. Bless his heart.
Here's a technique that can totally fool any chica / thief. Done it in Rio, and done it in the Dr. Only once I need to put this technique to action. Always carry an extra throwaway wallet (with a few pesos / Reals in it) And or Leave a non functional digital camera or something that looks expensive in a very visible area in your room. If your on the street and someone approaches you with a knife or Gun, give up the wallet with the small money in it. If you give them money most likely they'll know you have a wallet and ask for that to. (More time for them to stab or shoot your ass! Save yourself the frustration and carry the extra wallet or a broken camera and just give it up! They will think they got over when they really didn't. Had a Gdp in RIO try to be sneaky and slip a roofie in my drink when we got back to the room. I "acted" like I drank it, after I banged the hell out of her we both fell asleep. When I woke up, she was nowhere to be seen. But that broken Kodak digital camera (still in the box) was gone from the kitchen table. LOL stupid B-ch got the surprise of her life when she realized what happened. And I didn't give her any money either. Obrigado Puta!
So heed this technique fellas, Find yourself a chic and you think she's trustworthy, give her some tests. Start off with this! When you bring her back to your room pull out the decoy wallet with (small denomination bills) in it don't directly show her the money but let her see you have a lot of bills in it! Has more of an effect with an expired / canceled credit card in it also. If she's tempted to steal it it'llshe'll try. And if that happens, congratulations you got yourself an unworthy thief on your hands. This also works with broken cell phones, fake jewelry, broken laptops or whatever looks valuable to them. I don't think any thief chica would stay around after she stole your 2000 bracelet or Hp laptop! Cmon guys, use the diversion technique. Go to a garage sale or flea market and get inexpensive useless electronics etc, and bring them down in your carryon. It can save you from a lot of headaches and definitely get you some free pussy!
Hmmm maybe they should open a pawn shop in Sosua. That would be a GREAT way to find your lost stuff. LOL.
This is so true. In a wink of an eye stuff will be gone. I have had penniless worth stolen, my used razor, phone charger, lotion tubes etc. It took me a while to realize they were stolen and I did not carelessly misplace them. One time I just stepped out of the door as someone was knocking and and I see this chica who just got out of the shower let go the hood of my bag on my return. I gave her a mouthful but thats when I confirmed she stole the razor as I had her the previous day too. It was an uneasy feeling but really what can you do. I had my car broken into in the US recently, so crime is everywhere, its up to you to take the precautions.
John from NJ
10-24-11, 19:38
This is so true. In a wink of an eye stuff will be gone.A chica I wife up with during my last two trips took me for several hundred dollars. I got carless and she took advantage of the opportunity. Not only was I careless with my cash I was stupid to trust this girl. Never again!
Manizales911
10-24-11, 23:51
Here's a technique that can totally fool any chica / thief. Done it in Rio, and done it in the Dr. Only once I need to put this technique to action. Always carry an extra throwaway wallet (with a few pesos / Reals in it) And or Leave a non functional digital camera or something that looks expensive in a very visible area in your room. If your on the street and someone approaches you with a knife or Gun, give up the wallet with the small money in it. If you give them money most likely they'll know you have a wallet and ask for that to. (More time for them to stab or shoot your ass! Save yourself the frustration and carry the extra wallet or a broken camera and just give it up! They will think they got over when they really didn't. Had a Gdp in RIO try to be sneaky and slip a roofie in my drink when we got back to the room. I "acted" like I drank it, after I banged the hell out of her we both fell asleep. When I woke up, she was nowhere to be seen. But that broken Kodak digital camera (still in the box) was gone from the kitchen table. LOL stupid B-ch got the surprise of her life when she realized what happened. And I didn't give her any money either. Obrigado Puta!
So heed this technique fellas, Find yourself a chic and you think she's trustworthy, give her some tests. Start off with this! When you bring her back to your room pull out the decoy wallet with (small denomination bills) in it don't directly show her the money but let her see you have a lot of bills in it! Has more of an effect with an expired / canceled credit card in it also. If she's tempted to steal it it'llshe'll try. And if that happens, congratulations you got yourself an unworthy thief on your hands. This also works with broken cell phones, fake jewelry, broken laptops or whatever looks valuable to them. I don't think any thief chica would stay around after she stole your 2000 bracelet or Hp laptop! Cmon guys, use the diversion technique. Go to a garage sale or flea market and get inexpensive useless electronics etc, and bring them down in your carryon. It can save you from a lot of headaches and definitely get you some free pussy!
Hmmm maybe they should open a pawn shop in Sosua. That would be a GREAT way to find your lost stuff. LOL.One question, how did you know enough not to drink the drink with the roofie in it?
I met a girl in Manizales, Co. That was one of the hottest girls I had ever seen and I told my wingman who is a local that I wanted to bang her. He told me she was a firecracker in bed but a rumored thief. I used the broken camera bait trick only with a twist, in the battery compartment I stuck a note in there calling her a filthy pig thief working girl. Not a smart thing to do as Manizales is not that big of a city and I go there regularly but I was drunk and in one of those moods I guess.
Charles Pooter
10-25-11, 00:59
Guys getting their diamond bracelets stolen? What's next?" She stole my makeup case and stiletto heels"?
I knew because I saw her put something in my drink and insisted that I drink it. If I can remember they call it a boa noite cinderella or something like that!
And why would you feel regretful for what you did? A thief is a thief.
One question, how did you know enough not to drink the drink with the roofie in it?
I met a girl in Manizales, Co. That was one of the hottest girls I had ever seen and I told my wingman who is a local that I wanted to bang her. He told me she was a firecracker in bed but a rumored thief. I used the broken camera bait trick only with a twist, in the battery compartment I stuck a note in there calling her a filthy pig thief working girl. Not a smart thing to do as Manizales is not that big of a city and I go there regularly but I was drunk and in one of those moods I guess.
Guys getting their diamond bracelets stolen? What's next?" She stole my makeup case and stiletto heels"?Pooter, I understand the concept of a men's diamond bracelet is lost on you. Probably the same for a Rolex watch. But I also wear whatever I want, same for in Rio. I can't see anyone stepping to me like that, and kind if foolishly look for the challenge but no one has taken me on so far. I know I know.
Mr. E, that is hers in the pic, so probably she warmed up by stealing it from another sucker like me.
Ug Man, not the same. Similar, but no tattoo and face is different. The worst part is I ran through this chica so I know and she is amazing. Gave me her number, contact info, pics and vids before she last minute decided to cop my jewelry. Impulse I'm sure.
Charge it to the game. Some more pics, since she broke our agreement, I'll break it too.
BlackCloud
10-25-11, 04:53
Here's a technique that can totally fool any chica / thief. Done it in Rio, and done it in the Dr. Only once I need to put this technique to action. Always carry an extra throwaway wallet (with a few pesos / Reals in it) And or Leave a non functional digital camera or something that looks expensive in a very visible area in your room. If your on the street and someone approaches you with a knife or Gun, give up the wallet with the small money in it. If you give them money most likely they'll know you have a wallet and ask for that to. (More time for them to stab or shoot your ass! Save yourself the frustration and carry the extra wallet or a broken camera and just give it up! They will think they got over when they really didn't. Had a Gdp in RIO try to be sneaky and slip a roofie in my drink when we got back to the room. I "acted" like I drank it, after I banged the hell out of her we both fell asleep. When I woke up, she was nowhere to be seen. But that broken Kodak digital camera (still in the box) was gone from the kitchen table. LOL stupid B-ch got the surprise of her life when she realized what happened. And I didn't give her any money either. Obrigado Puta!
So heed this technique fellas, Find yourself a chic and you think she's trustworthy, give her some tests. Start off with this! When you bring her back to your room pull out the decoy wallet with (small denomination bills) in it don't directly show her the money but let her see you have a lot of bills in it! Has more of an effect with an expired / canceled credit card in it also. If she's tempted to steal it it'llshe'll try. And if that happens, congratulations you got yourself an unworthy thief on your hands. This also works with broken cell phones, fake jewelry, broken laptops or whatever looks valuable to them. I don't think any thief chica would stay around after she stole your 2000 bracelet or Hp laptop! Cmon guys, use the diversion technique. Go to a garage sale or flea market and get inexpensive useless electronics etc, and bring them down in your carryon. It can save you from a lot of headaches and definitely get you some free pussy!
Hmmm maybe they should open a pawn shop in Sosua. That would be a GREAT way to find your lost stuff. LOL.Your advise about being in the street is valid (Good idea ). But as for testing the chicas, why would you want to go through all of the drama? Seems like a lot of work & a waste of time to me. Just lock your shit up!
I have heard some macho BS in my life. I am putting you the top ten tough guy. Gun in your face and you going john Wayne on them.
Pooter, I understand the concept of a men's diamond bracelet is lost on you. Probably the same for a Rolex watch. But I also wear whatever I want, same for in Rio. I can't see anyone stepping to me like that, and kind if foolishly look for the challenge but no one has taken me on so far. I know I know.
Mr. E, that is hers in the pic, so probably she warmed up by stealing it from another sucker like me.
Ug Man, not the same. Similar, but no tattoo and face is different. The worst part is I ran through this chica so I know and she is amazing. Gave me her number, contact info, pics and vids before she last minute decided to cop my jewelry. Impulse I'm sure.
Charge it to the game. Some more pics, since she broke our agreement, I'll break it too.
Tempoecorto
10-25-11, 06:00
Guys getting their diamond bracelets stolen? What's next?" She stole my makeup case and stiletto heels"?Charles: I seriously cracked up. That was sublime. God save the Brits!
Tempoecorto
10-25-11, 06:11
Who's Sori now?Here we go one more time. Yes, I again cracked up!
Manizales911
10-25-11, 06:22
But I also wear whatever I want, same for in Rio. I can't see anyone stepping to me like that, and kind if foolishly look for the challenge but no one has taken me on so far. I know I know.Keep traveling to places in South America with that mentality and trouble will find you with a capital "T". Not to get all cliche but as they say "This ain't Kansas Toto". Life is cheap down there and they sure as fuck aren't scared of you or anybody else.
By the way, I'm with Sir Charles on his analogy of the bracelet. I own two Rolex's but you wouldn't catch me dead wearing a diamond bracelet.
DeepMmpactt
10-25-11, 08:18
A chica I wife up with during my last two trips took me for several hundred dollars. I got carless and she took advantage of the opportunity. Not only was I careless with my cash I was stupid to trust this girl. Never again!The second fake, throw away wallet, works for me, I go to wal mart, buy a cheap ass wallet,
3 bucks, put only what I can afford to lose maybe a couple thousand pesos, my Real wallet,
Credit cards, droid phone, passport, Never see the "light of day"my digital camera, makes.
Rare appeareances. Hoe-proof your loot, and valuebles, and you won't be sorry. I've heard.
Alot of horror stories, and I want to learn, What not to do"
[QUOTE=B J Lover; 1210025]But I also wear whatever I want, same for in Rio. I can't see anyone stepping to me like that, and kind if foolishly look for the challenge but no one has taken me on so far. I know I know.
Great to see a man who knows what he wants, and goes for it
MiamiHeatLuver
10-25-11, 16:57
B J Lover seems to think he knows what hes doing when it comes to his personal "street smarts" so he and he alone must deal with any consequences that should array. All we can do is offer friendly advice what you preferably shouldn't do but he's making his beds and now he must sleep in them. He could get jacked the next trip or he could go on for another 20 years issue free, who knows? Obviously me myself do not condone bringing anything of high value (especially jewelry) to 3rd world desperate countries. Why arouse temptation? Do not bring or carry anything you are not prepared to give up at a gunpoints notice.
Pooter, I understand the concept of a men's diamond bracelet is lost on you.Me too. Could you explain the concept?
Mr Enternational
10-25-11, 21:14
The second fake, throw away wallet, works for me, I go to wal mart, buy a cheap ass wallet, 3 bucks, put only what I can afford to lose maybe a couple thousand pesos, my Real wallet, Credit cards, droid phone, passport, Never see the "light of day"my digital camera, makes. Rare appeareances. Hoe-proof your loot, and valuebles, and you won't be sorry. I've heard. Alot of horror stories, and I want to learn, What not to do"Man you guys seem to really expect and/or run into a lot of trouble when traveling. Better safe than sorry though. Why even carry a wallet in the first place? It would have to be one dumb ass robber to believe that people are walking around with brand new wallets with only a few bucks, no id, no photos, no bank cards, no old receipts, and no phone numbers....Stab, stab, bang, bang; Now give me your real wallet motherfucker!
Ath Trainer
10-26-11, 00:53
B J Lover seems to think he knows what hes doing when it comes to his personal "street smarts" so he and he alone must deal with any consequences that should array. All we can do is offer friendly advice what you preferably shouldn't do but he's making his beds and now he must sleep in them. He could get jacked the next trip or he could go on for another 20 years issue free, who knows? Obviously me myself do not condone bringing anything of high value (especially jewelry) to 3rd world desperate countries. Why arouse temptation? Do not bring or carry anything you are not prepared to give up at a gunpoints notice.Advantages of wearing expensive jewelry on a mongering trip.
Disadvantages of wearing expensive jewelry on a mongering trip:
The girls will think you are loaded and ask hire prices, ask you to buy them things, order higher priced drinks, etc.
You can get mugged for it.
You can have a chica steal it.
You can loose it.
Disadvantages outnumber the advantages. Risk is not equal to the reward.
DeepMmpactt
10-26-11, 01:06
Man you guys seem to really expect and/or run into a lot of trouble when traveling. Better safe than sorry though. Why even carry a wallet in the first place? It would have to be one dumb ass robber to believe that people are walking around with brand new wallets with only a few bucks, no id, no photos, no bank cards, no old receipts, and no phone numbers.Stab, stab, bang, bang; Now give me your real wallet motherfucker!Whats wrong with being cautious, Yeah bruh, It seem like.
Your, Superman. My brother Mr Enternational I was born and raised in Detroit, Michigan.
So that causes this paranoia, or caution, maybe in the middle of Utah, or wherever you.
Live, shit doesn't happen, but I don't need a lecture, from you, Lets take a trip to Detroit,
Michigan, lets see you run your mouth. Nuthin wrong with taking precaution, and stupid.
People get robbed, matter of fact shit happens to everyone. Wrong place, wrong time its going to.
Happen, I aint gunna broadcasting rob me. And where I come from its MuthaFucka. Not.
Motherfucker". Brothas feel where I comin from. Peace!
I got to get my freak on!
-Helpmann."Get Your Freak On Girl, was the only advice Transportation Security Administration officials had for Jill Filipovic. The suggestion – handwritten on an inspection notice tucked into Ms. Filipovic's checked baggage – referred to something the woman had purposely left out of her carry-on: her Silver Bullet a discreet mini-vibrator" LOL: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/the-hot-button/womans-silver-bullet-noted-by-tsa/article2212082/?utm_medium=Feeds%3A%20RSS%2FAtom&utm_source=Home&utm_content=2212082
AlwaysHorny 2
10-27-11, 00:54
I'm in Chicago and people get robbed all the time in the Gold Coast area. You can try to be as cautious as possible, but shit just happens sometimes. However, I don't understand why anyone would TRY to impress a puta with money / bling. There is no upside. We are all looked at like "tricks". Some more than others.
We are in a third world environment with limited language skills and shooty police protection. Long story short, just be careful. I'm 6'4 240 an I can kick ass, but if I get ambushed by a few guys with GUNS. They can have whatever. Treasure your life and chalk that experience up to the game. The cemetery is littered with a bunch of tough guys.
If you want to really impress a Chica (puta or otherwise) , get you some game, smell nice, and dress fresh.
I'm in Chicago and people get robbed all the time in the Gold Coast area. You can try to be as cautious as possible, but shit just happens sometimes. However, I don't understand why anyone would TRY to impress a puta with money / bling. There is no upside. We are all looked at like "tricks". Some more than others.
We are in a third world environment with limited language skills and shooty police protection. Long story short, just be careful. I'm 6'4 240 an I can kick ass, but if I get ambushed by a few guys with GUNS. They can have whatever. Treasure your life and chalk that experience up to the game. The cemetery is littered with a bunch of tough guys.
If you want to really impress a Chica (puta or otherwise) , get you some game, smell nice, and dress fresh.I have met many Dominicans who have had fathers, brothers, sisters and cousins murdered by other Dominicans in DR.
The American lawyer living in a million dollar house in playa chiquita, sosua, was murdered in his house. Seems no one will ever be charged for that crime (owner of classicos and sosua bay hotel probably ordered the hit). As Mr Gogo has previously stated the Italian owner of Classicos and Sosua Bay Hotel is protected in DR. The Victorian House Hotel shares facilities with the Sosua Bay Hotel and was originally built for the owner of a sugar plantation. The tourist hotels are located in El Batey, Sosua. The word batey from what I understand refers to the buildings that make up the sugar plantation. An Italian family, the Vicini own and operate bateys in Dom Rep, for the production of sugar. The Vicini family is very powerful in Dom Rep and probably explains why the Italian owner of Sosua Bay Hotel and Classicos was never charged with murder.
DeepMmpactt
10-27-11, 08:20
I'm in Chicago and people get robbed all the time in the Gold Coast area. You can try to be as cautious as possible, but shit just happens sometimes. However, I don't understand why anyone would TRY to impress a puta with money / bling. There is no upside. We are all looked at like "tricks". Some more than others.
We are in a third world environment with limited language skills and shooty police protection. Long story short, just be careful. I'm 6'4 240 an I can kick ass, but if I get ambushed by a few guys with GUNS. They can have whatever. Treasure your life and chalk that experience up to the game. The cemetery is littered with a bunch of tough guys.
If you want to really impress a Chica (puta or otherwise) , get you some game, smell nice, and dress fresh.Man, thats for real. Man no more to be said! . We say all so called Kings, end up gettimg.
Jacked" Here in Detroit, but you know what, It aint were you from, its where you at.
I have met many Dominicans who have had fathers, brothers, sisters and cousins murdered by other Dominicans in DR.
The American lawyer living in a million dollar house in playa chiquita, sosua, was murdered in his house. Seems no one will ever be charged for that crime (owner of classicos and sosua bay hotel probably ordered the hit). As Mr Gogo has previously stated the Italian owner of Classicos and Sosua Bay Hotel is protected in DR. The Victorian House Hotel shares facilities with the Sosua Bay Hotel and was originally built for the owner of a sugar plantation. The tourist hotels are located in El Batey, Sosua. The word batey from what I understand refers to the buildings that make up the sugar plantation. An Italian family, the Vicini own and operate bateys in Dom Rep, for the production of sugar. The Vicini family is very powerful in Dom Rep and probably explains why the Italian owner of Sosua Bay Hotel and Classicos was never charged with murder.Jao we are always cool but I don't think I used the word "Protected". I think I said he was "Powerful" because of his many buisinesses in the Sosua area. Having so many interests gives that individual a say in what happens. We really don't know who ordered the hit on Art, but it was very unfortunate.
Armando (Classicos owner) will not go down without a fight, plus he has a reputation as untouchable,
Jao we are always cool but I don't think I used the word "Protected". I think I said he was "Powerful" because of his many businesses in the Sosua area. Having so many interests gives that individual a say in what happens. We really don't know who ordered the hit on Art, but it was very unfortunate.Protected and untouchable are almost synonyms.
Mr Enternational
10-27-11, 20:59
Whats wrong with being cautious, Yeah bruh, It seem like. Your, Superman. My brother Mr Enternational I was born and raised in Detroit, Michigan. So that causes this paranoia, or caution, maybe in the middle of Utah, or wherever you. Live, shit doesn't happen, but I don't need a lecture, from you, Lets take a trip to Detroit, Michigan, lets see you run your mouth. Nuthin wrong with taking precaution, and stupid. People get robbed, matter of fact shit happens to everyone. Wrong place, wrong time its going to. Happen, I aint gunna broadcasting rob me. And where I come from its MuthaFucka. Not. Motherfucker". Brothas feel where I comin from. Peace!Nothing wrong with being cautious. That is why I wrote,"better safe than sorry." I was born in the projects. I have been in some of the roughest hoods on the planet and fortunately I have never had any incidents. Not sure if you have seen the movie or not, but I used to live in the City of God in Rio with my girlfriend. So I know a lot about being careful.
SavePros321
10-27-11, 22:35
Not sure if you have seen the movie or not, but I used to live in the City of God in Rio with my girlfriend. So I know a lot about being careful.Favorite movie of all time! Seen it at least 7 times already. Little Ze is a bad mutha!
AlwaysHorny 2
10-27-11, 23:19
Has anybody stayed here before?
Does it have a "reputation"?
DeepMmpactt
10-27-11, 23:27
Advantages of wearing expensive jewelry on a mongering trip.
Disadvantages of wearing expensive jewelry on a mongering trip:
The girls will think you are loaded and ask hire prices, ask you to buy them things, order higher priced drinks, etc.
You can get mugged for it.
You can have a chica steal it.
You can loose it.
Disadvantages outnumber the advantages. Risk is not equal to the reward.Chalk me in in the "Risk" outweighing the "Reward" column.
I have just spent 27 days based in Sosua, came back 2 weeks ago, with a 9 day break during that time visiting Santo Domingo and Santiago, so I think I am quite well qualified to offer my views about the place.
Nightspots.
From my perspective, the best quality ladies are to be found in the Merengue bar and in Classico's, though the quality and quantity is definitely not what it was when I was there in February this year. The best nights tend to be Thursday, Friday, and surprisingly Sunday and even Monday can be very lively. Saturday night in Classico's in particular is not much fun, as it is too overcrowded and not ideal for mongering at all. Latido's should also be checked out, since although the quality of the chicks is lower, every now and again you will spot a beauty. It all depends on personal taste anyway, and sometimes girls are stuck there, as they are scared of getting arrested making the walk to Classico's! Latino's bar, on the opposite side, can be a good place to hang out, and watch the world, or more importantly, the girls go by. It can get busy here even in the late afternoon, long before the Merengue bar or Classico's have got going. Many of the same girls who visit those bars come here on their way back from the beach with their friends, or are looking for some earlier daytime clients. To be honest, seeing the same girls in all the bars, over several weeks, tends to put a downer on their appeal to you, as they lose the air of sexiness if you see them endlessly. If you are feeling more adventurous, you may also find a few sexy ladies in El Flow, as long as you can handle the busy atmosphere and the loud music. I would also agree with what Charles Pooter wrote, that the few girls hanging around in the New Garden Hotel by the bar are barely worth even looking at or mentioning. I know as I have walked by the place at least 50 times during my stay there!
The ladies.
If anybody thinks they are going to come across endless gorgeous chicks in Sosua if they visit at the moment they are sadly mistaken. The quality has gone down compared to when I was there in February. There are a few gorgeous chicks, but the average chick there is not particularly good looking, or physically outstanding. I didn't meet too many with impressive racks either, something I am into. A decent pair of tits in this town (and in this country too?) are only usually found on chubby or fat girls. It should also be remembered that these girls are amateurs, and many behave like amateurs in bed as well. They are not regular girls, but they are not hard core hookers either, they exist in their own world in between, in a uniquely Dominican way. On the whole you will be paying an average girl, on the off chance that you will have great sex with her. It is completely hit or miss! Some will be hot as hell, and others completely disinterested. I had a few great experiences, with for example a big titted mulatta I picked up at the Merengue bar, and from a very busty daytime barmaid in a bar down the far end of Pedro Clisante, but other girls I picked up from Classico's and Latido's were disappointing, more by their attitude and effort than their physical appearance.
In Classico's, there are some hardcore girls who are there virtually every night (not the best looking ones, it has to be said) , there are girls who come more on the weekends looking for some extra money from punters, there are groups of girlfriends who come mainly on the weekend and seem to just continually walk around the club in circles not looking for customers, and some girls who come frequently and wander around Classico's, but never leave with punters. These last group are the most annoying and confusing girls! Let me give you an example. One girl who came in who I thought was very nice looking, I tried talking to her, saying I had not seen her there before (Yes I know, how original!) , to which she replied that she hardly ever came there because she did not like the men there or to have sex with them (?). Well, excuse me but how appealing is a comment like that? Why on earth would I be interested in her after she said that? For the next 2 weeks I saw her there virtually every night, walking around virtually ignoring the men, and I never saw her leave once with a punter! So she, or somebody, pays 200 pesos every night for her to get in to the place, but for what, why does she go there? She certainly doesn't seem to be enjoying herself there either. There were several other girls behaving similarly to her there too, really annoying!
When you spend longer in the place you also see that people are not happy there, life is tough. You see this on the faces and in the behaviour of the working girls too. Personally I am not interested in having sex with a girl when it is so obvious that she is only doing it because she is desperate for money. Maybe she is, but I don't want to be reminded of it at every turn. I want to see a bit of enthusiasm. If I am paying for it, I want to see a smiling face and have a good time.
Places to eat.
I was not particularly adventurous eating out during my stay. Personally I find Baileys to be a cut above all the other places to eat in Sosua. It has great food, reasonable prices, it is spacious and has a nice atmosphere, the staff are friendly and it has an excellent wi-fi connection, pretty unbeatable really. That's why it is virtually never empty! Morua Mai has good food, however is much pricier than Baileys and the place is usually empty. The owner and his family eat there virtually every night though, so either they are eating the profits or they have so much money in bank that they don't care! Eating there can also be embarrassing if you are alone and the place is empty, as you feel like the whole staff are watching you! If the place had more patrons it would score higher, as the food is good. It also has a very good internet connection. The restaurant in the Terra Linda resort looks great, but that's about it! The menu to begin with is written in a really stupid 'English for morons' style, ie Chicken 'and' fries, god I hate that menu! On top of that their food is poor, too many fried things, and too simple. Their coffee is also not great, even the coffee at the Merengue bar is much better. For good coffee I would recommend Baileys. I ate lunch and had a few snacks at the other bars along Pedro Clisante (along the side of Jolly Rogers and the Britannia bar). However what I do not like about these is that they are virtually on the street, so you get people hassling you and cars and motorbikes polluting you. I went into Rocky's once to eat, but the internet was out due to a storm, so I went elsewhere instead. Their menu is very simple, but I cannot comment if their food is good or not.
Motoconcho's and other hassles.
As far as I am concerned, the only real problem in Sosua are the motoconcho's and other people hassling you in the street to buy something or other from them, these are the only people who would affect me coming back or not, the girls never bother you, or if they do, they are much more subtle about it. Having these guys shout at you every day for a month just becomes really tiring, they are a constant thorn in your ear. I have tried everything from ignoring them, telling them my name is not 'Hey', however that invites the next question 'So what is your name then? '. I have replied to them crying out 'Moto! ' at you, with 'Yes, it is a Moto' or 'Yes, you have a moto, congratulations! ', or 'You see me here every day, and I never ever go on a motoconcho, so why do you keep asking me? ' To which the guy then tried to sell me the crap Dominican version of Viagra! I think the motoconcho's should really just be banned as they are basically just parasites. All you guys who use them in the immediate area of Sosua are just totally lazy! Walk, get fit, go to the gym, stop encouraging and perpetuating these annoying guys. If they did not get any more clients, they would slowly leave and find something else to do! I did notice though that when I left the Sosua bay beach club and took off their wristband, they finally started hassling me less for my last week there.
Anyway, flying around on the back of some stupid moped with no protection is inherently dangerous, even though others may say that they never crash. I suppose if you are there long enough, you will see a crash, as I did on my last night there. I was crossing the street in front of the Merengue bar when a motoconcho with a girl on the back crashed right into a pedestrian tourist crossing the street. It sounded pretty nasty, and they all ended up in a heap on the ground in the middle of the street. A small crowd gathered, and luckily nobody was badly injured, but if you had been there after the fascination had worn off and everybody had walked away, nobody would have cared less if somebody had been badly injured. What makes it worse is that these motoconcho's do not respect that the main drag in Sosua (Pedro Clisante) is meant to be a one way street, and fly past you the other way too when you're crossing the street.
Sosua in general.
To be honest, despite the great weather, I would put forward the argument that Sosua is actually a pretty depressing place to walk around during the day, at this time of the year anyway. Depressed, pretty desperate people, junk lying everywhere on the street and never cleaned up (just look at the state of the small street leading to the beach, what a dump!) , and people hassling you everywhere. If you want to see their true nature, see how they talk to each other. For example they hardly say please or thank you to each other in the shops or restaurants, or treat each other with any obvious empathy or consideration. They are also constantly arguing with each other and don't seem to be able to have a quiet discussion about anything, which can also get tiring. If you want to know what the Dominicans really think of the tourists, go to a hotel such as the Sosua Bay beach club on the weekend, when Dominicans get their special deals there. When they have money, when they are enjoying their weekend with their families and friends, they will barely even acknowledge the foreigners there, let alone want to know them!
The longer I spent in Sosua and the Dominican Republic in general, the more glimpses I had of the inherent dangers that are just under the surface there, which you would not notice if you were there for a shorter time, or staying in an all inclusive resort for example. It also felt very different, and more potentially less safe than when I was there in February. The doorman / security guard taking a huge handgun off somebody trying to enter Classico's and handing it across to his colleague, right in front of me; the taxi driver, who pulled his revolver from under his seat just to show it to me, when we were talking about crime and guns there; the Metro bus I was in going from Sosua to Puerto Plata clipping and nearly killing a guy on a moped, who had a very close call; not to mention the motoconcho I already spoke about crashing in the street in front of Classico's. Walking back from Classico's to the Sosua Bay hotel one night at about 2 am without a care in the world, I was first verbally chatted up by this middle aged junkie woman standing on the pavement, and even though I totaly ignored her, before I knew it she was onto me, her hands were in my pockets and I had to physically throw her off me and shout some pretty strong words to get rid of her! At first I thought she was desperate for clients, but then thinking about it afterwards she was obviously probably after my money. It all happened in a few seconds, but safe to say, after that I walked back at night in the middle of the street as I felt safer there than on the pavement, scanning my eyes left and right constantly. A couple of days later though the junkies had gone, maybe the police moved them on somewhere.
Another point I would make is that the longer you stay there, the more you get to know people, and the more they get to know you too. Obviously, it is nice to talk and be friendly, but the more you reveal about yourself, the more you may be may be setting yourself up to be taken advantage of, robbed etc. So as a general rule of thumb, I would say it is best not to reveal too many personal details, or talk about your job, wealth, plans etc, just common sense really.
I will return to Sosua, but I am in no rush. Next time I will go back for a week or 10 days, because nearly a month there is too long to stay in such a small place; it gets too repetitive and you see the same people and chicks all the time. I will also go back in high season when the place is more alive and the locals are less desperate, such as January or February, which also has the added bonus that the weather is cooler and more pleasant. Even at Puerto Plata airport when I left, there was a young guy wandering around the tourists trying to help them fill in their customs leaving forms. Obviously he wanted payment for this. I mean really, even when you are trying to leave the country you couldn't get a break from the hustlers!
I have just spent 27 days based in Sosua, came back 2 weeks ago, with a 9 day break during that time visiting Santo Domingo and Santiago, so I think I am quite well qualified to offer my views about the place.Thanks for the post. As you aware, Sosua is one of the main puta towns in DR, boca chica being the other.
There are much nicer spots in DR. Rent a car or take gua guas or buses and tour the country, you can meet beautiful chicas and meet nice people.
SavePros321
10-28-11, 04:40
I have just spent 27 days based in Sosua, came back 2 weeks ago, with a 9 day break during that time visiting Santo Domingo and Santiago, so I think I am quite well qualified to offer my views about the place.
Nightspots.
From my perspective, the best quality ladies are to be found in the Merengue bar and in Classico's, though the quality and quantity is definitely not what it was when I was there in February this year. The best nights tend to be Thursday, Friday, and surprisingly Sunday and even Monday can be very lively. Saturday night in Classico's in particular is not much fun, as it is too overcrowded and not ideal for mongering at all. Latido's should also be checked out, since although the quality of the chicks is lower, every now and again you will spot a beauty. It all depends on personal taste anyway, and sometimes girls are stuck there, as they are scared of getting arrested making the walk to Classico's! Latino's bar, on the opposite side, can be a good place to hang out, and watch the world, or more importantly, the girls go by. It can get busy here even in the late afternoon, long before the Merengue bar or Classico's have got going. Many of the same girls who visit those bars come here on their way back from the beach with their friends, or are looking for some earlier daytime clients. To be honest, seeing the same girls in all the bars, over several weeks, tends to put a downer on their appeal to you, as they lose the air of sexiness if you see them endlessly. If you are feeling more adventurous, you may also find a few sexy ladies in El Flow, as long as you can handle the busy atmosphere and the loud music. I would also agree with what Charles Pooter wrote, that the few girls hanging around in the New Garden Hotel by the bar are barely worth even looking at or mentioning. I know as I have walked by the place at least 50 times during my stay there!
The ladies.
If anybody thinks they are going to come across endless gorgeous chicks in Sosua if they visit at the moment they are sadly mistaken. The quality has gone down compared to when I was there in February. There are a few gorgeous chicks, but the average chick there is not particularly good looking, or physically outstanding. I didn't meet too many with impressive racks either, something I am into. A decent pair of tits in this town (and in this country too?) are only usually found on chubby or fat girls. It should also be remembered that these girls are amateurs, and many behave like amateurs in bed as well. They are not regular girls, but they are not hard core hookers either, they exist in their own world in between, in a uniquely Dominican way. On the whole you will be paying an average girl, on the off chance that you will have great sex with her. It is completely hit or miss! Some will be hot as hell, and others completely disinterested. I had a few great experiences, with for example a big titted mulatta I picked up at the Merengue bar, and from a very busty daytime barmaid in a bar down the far end of Pedro Clisante, but other girls I picked up from Classico's and Latido's were disappointing, more by their attitude and effort than their physical appearance.
In Classico's, there are some hardcore girls who are there virtually every night (not the best looking ones, it has to be said) , there are girls who come more on the weekends looking for some extra money from punters, there are groups of girlfriends who come mainly on the weekend and seem to just continually walk around the club in circles not looking for customers, and some girls who come frequently and wander around Classico's, but never leave with punters. These last group are the most annoying and confusing girls! Let me give you an example. One girl who came in who I thought was very nice looking, I tried talking to her, saying I had not seen her there before (Yes I know, how original!) , to which she replied that she hardly ever came there because she did not like the men there or to have sex with them (?). Well, excuse me but how appealing is a comment like that? Why on earth would I be interested in her after she said that? For the next 2 weeks I saw her there virtually every night, walking around virtually ignoring the men, and I never saw her leave once with a punter! So she, or somebody, pays 200 pesos every night for her to get in to the place, but for what, why does she go there? She certainly doesn't seem to be enjoying herself there either. There were several other girls behaving similarly to her there too, really annoying!
When you spend longer in the place you also see that people are not happy there, life is tough. You see this on the faces and in the behaviour of the working girls too. Personally I am not interested in having sex with a girl when it is so obvious that she is only doing it because she is desperate for money. Maybe she is, but I don't want to be reminded of it at every turn. I want to see a bit of enthusiasm. If I am paying for it, I want to see a smiling face and have a good time.
Places to eat.
I was not particularly adventurous eating out during my stay. Personally I find Baileys to be a cut above all the other places to eat in Sosua. It has great food, reasonable prices, it is spacious and has a nice atmosphere, the staff are friendly and it has an excellent wi-fi connection, pretty unbeatable really. That's why it is virtually never empty! Morua Mai has good food, however is much pricier than Baileys and the place is usually empty. The owner and his family eat there virtually every night though, so either they are eating the profits or they have so much money in bank that they don't care! Eating there can also be embarrassing if you are alone and the place is empty, as you feel like the whole staff are watching you! If the place had more patrons it would score higher, as the food is good. It also has a very good internet connection. The restaurant in the Terra Linda resort looks great, but that's about it! The menu to begin with is written in a really stupid 'English for morons' style, ie Chicken 'and' fries, god I hate that menu! On top of that their food is poor, too many fried things, and too simple. Their coffee is also not great, even the coffee at the Merengue bar is much better. For good coffee I would recommend Baileys. I ate lunch and had a few snacks at the other bars along Pedro Clisante (along the side of Jolly Rogers and the Britannia bar). However what I do not like about these is that they are virtually on the street, so you get people hassling you and cars and motorbikes polluting you. I went into Rocky's once to eat, but the internet was out due to a storm, so I went elsewhere instead. Their menu is very simple, but I cannot comment if their food is good or not.
Motoconcho's and other hassles.
As far as I am concerned, the only real problem in Sosua are the motoconcho's and other people hassling you in the street to buy something or other from them, these are the only people who would affect me coming back or not, the girls never bother you, or if they do, they are much more subtle about it. Having these guys shout at you every day for a month just becomes really tiring, they are a constant thorn in your ear. I have tried everything from ignoring them, telling them my name is not 'Hey', however that invites the next question 'So what is your name then? '. I have replied to them crying out 'Moto! ' at you, with 'Yes, it is a Moto' or 'Yes, you have a moto, congratulations! ', or 'You see me here every day, and I never ever go on a motoconcho, so why do you keep asking me? ' To which the guy then tried to sell me the crap Dominican version of Viagra! I think the motoconcho's should really just be banned as they are basically just parasites. All you guys who use them in the immediate area of Sosua are just totally lazy! Walk, get fit, go to the gym, stop encouraging and perpetuating these annoying guys. If they did not get any more clients, they would slowly leave and find something else to do! I did notice though that when I left the Sosua bay beach club and took off their wristband, they finally started hassling me less for my last week there.
Anyway, flying around on the back of some stupid moped with no protection is inherently dangerous, even though others may say that they never crash. I suppose if you are there long enough, you will see a crash, as I did on my last night there. I was crossing the street in front of the Merengue bar when a motoconcho with a girl on the back crashed right into a pedestrian tourist crossing the street. It sounded pretty nasty, and they all ended up in a heap on the ground in the middle of the street. A small crowd gathered, and luckily nobody was badly injured, but if you had been there after the fascination had worn off and everybody had walked away, nobody would have cared less if somebody had been badly injured. What makes it worse is that these motoconcho's do not respect that the main drag in Sosua (Pedro Clisante) is meant to be a one way street, and fly past you the other way too when you're crossing the street.
Sosua in general.
To be honest, despite the great weather, I would put forward the argument that Sosua is actually a pretty depressing place to walk around during the day, at this time of the year anyway. Depressed, pretty desperate people, junk lying everywhere on the street and never cleaned up (just look at the state of the small street leading to the beach, what a dump!) , and people hassling you everywhere. If you want to see their true nature, see how they talk to each other. For example they hardly say please or thank you to each other in the shops or restaurants, or treat each other with any obvious empathy or consideration. They are also constantly arguing with each other and don't seem to be able to have a quiet discussion about anything, which can also get tiring. If you want to know what the Dominicans really think of the tourists, go to a hotel such as the Sosua Bay beach club on the weekend, when Dominicans get their special deals there. When they have money, when they are enjoying their weekend with their families and friends, they will barely even acknowledge the foreigners there, let alone want to know them!
The longer I spent in Sosua and the Dominican Republic in general, the more glimpses I had of the inherent dangers that are just under the surface there, which you would not notice if you were there for a shorter time, or staying in an all inclusive resort for example. It also felt very different, and more potentially less safe than when I was there in February. The doorman / security guard taking a huge handgun off somebody trying to enter Classico's and handing it across to his colleague, right in front of me; the taxi driver, who pulled his revolver from under his seat just to show it to me, when we were talking about crime and guns there; the Metro bus I was in going from Sosua to Puerto Plata clipping and nearly killing a guy on a moped, who had a very close call; not to mention the motoconcho I already spoke about crashing in the street in front of Classico's. Walking back from Classico's to the Sosua Bay hotel one night at about 2 am without a care in the world, I was first verbally chatted up by this middle aged junkie woman standing on the pavement, and even though I totaly ignored her, before I knew it she was onto me, her hands were in my pockets and I had to physically throw her off me and shout some pretty strong words to get rid of her! At first I thought she was desperate for clients, but then thinking about it afterwards she was obviously probably after my money. It all happened in a few seconds, but safe to say, after that I walked back at night in the middle of the street as I felt safer there than on the pavement, scanning my eyes left and right constantly. A couple of days later though the junkies had gone, maybe the police moved them on somewhere.
Another point I would make is that the longer you stay there, the more you get to know people, and the more they get to know you too. Obviously, it is nice to talk and be friendly, but the more you reveal about yourself, the more you may be may be setting yourself up to be taken advantage of, robbed etc. So as a general rule of thumb, I would say it is best not to reveal too many personal details, or talk about your job, wealth, plans etc, just common sense really.
I will return to Sosua, but I am in no rush. Next time I will go back for a week or 10 days, because nearly a month there is too long to stay in such a small place; it gets too repetitive and you see the same people and chicks all the time. I will also go back in high season when the place is more alive and the locals are less desperate, such as January or February, which also has the added bonus that the weather is cooler and more pleasant. Even at Puerto Plata airport when I left, there was a young guy wandering around the tourists trying to help them fill in their customs leaving forms. Obviously he wanted payment for this. I mean really, even when you are trying to leave the country you couldn't get a break from the hustlers!Hands down one of the best and most recent reports in a long time. 5 fucking stars, LOL! You cover everything here and thank you for coming back and writing such a detailed report. And you are right about them trying to hustle you all the way until you exit the country. One of the bag men at the airport tried to convince me that I was late for my flight and we rushed along to the AA check in counter. I only played along with his game because we bypassed everyone else who had to run their bags through the machine. Once we got to the check out counter I had the AA rep tell me aloud when my flight was departing, and the we both looked at the bag man like he was stupid. He then just shook my hand and walked off.
I have always found the best times to visit Sosua were between December (before Christmas) thru Late March. My May trip was kinda slow and the October trip that year was even slower and things didn't get started until well after 1am. Luckily I was lock-in with a chica the entire trip (something I will never do again in the future).
Thanks again!
I have just spent 27 days based in Sosua, came back 2 weeks ago, with a 9 day break during that time visiting Santo Domingo and Santiago, so I think I am quite well qualified to offer my views about the place.
Sosua in general.
To be honest, despite the great weather, I would put forward the argument that Sosua is actually a pretty depressing place to walk around during the day, at this time of the year anyway. Depressed, pretty desperate people, junk lying everywhere on the street and never cleaned up (just look at the state of the small street leading to the beach, what a dump!) , and people hassling you everywhere. If you want to see their true nature, see how they talk to each other. For example they hardly say please or thank you to each other in the shops or restaurants, or treat each other with any obvious empathy or consideration. They are also constantly arguing with each other and don't seem to be able to have a quiet discussion about anything, which can also get tiring. If you want to know what the Dominicans really think of the tourists, go to a hotel such as the Sosua Bay beach club on the weekend, when Dominicans get their special deals there. When they have money, when they are enjoying their weekend with their families and friends, they will barely even acknowledge the foreigners there, let alone want to know them!
The longer I spent in Sosua and the Dominican Republic in general, the more glimpses I had of the inherent dangers that are just under the surface there, which you would not notice if you were there for a shorter time, or staying in an all inclusive resort for example. It also felt very different, and more potentially less safe than when I was there in February. The doorman / security guard taking a huge handgun off somebody trying to enter Classico's and handing it across to his colleague, right in front of me; the taxi driver, who pulled his revolver from under his seat just to show it to me, when we were talking about crime and guns there; the Metro bus I was in going from Sosua to Puerto Plata clipping and nearly killing a guy on a moped, who had a very close call; not to mention the motoconcho I already spoke about crashing in the street in front of Classico's. Walking back from Classico's to the Sosua Bay hotel one night at about 2 am without a care in the world, I was first verbally chatted up by this middle aged junkie woman standing on the pavement, and even though I totaly ignored her, before I knew it she was onto me, her hands were in my pockets and I had to physically throw her off me and shout some pretty strong words to get rid of her! At first I thought she was desperate for clients, but then thinking about it afterwards she was obviously probably after my money. It all happened in a few seconds, but safe to say, after that I walked back at night in the middle of the street as I felt safer there than on the pavement, scanning my eyes left and right constantly. A couple of days later though the junkies had gone, maybe the police moved them on somewhere.
Another point I would make is that the longer you stay there, the more you get to know people, and the more they get to know you too. Obviously, it is nice to talk and be friendly, but the more you reveal about yourself, the more you may be may be setting yourself up to be taken advantage of, robbed etc. So as a general rule of thumb, I would say it is best not to reveal too many personal details, or talk about your job, wealth, plans etc, just common sense really.
I will return to Sosua, but I am in no rush. Next time I will go back for a week or 10 days, because nearly a month there is too long to stay in such a small place; it gets too repetitive and you see the same people and chicks all the time. I will also go back in high season when the place is more alive and the locals are less desperate, such as January or February, which also has the added bonus that the weather is cooler and more pleasant. Even at Puerto Plata airport when I left, there was a young guy wandering around the tourists trying to help them fill in their customs leaving forms. Obviously he wanted payment for this. I mean really, even when you are trying to leave the country you couldn't get a break from the hustlers!Yes, this is a pretty good report. I was in Sosua for a couple of months this summer, and I would say most of what is said here is pretty accurate. Certainly one you get over the thrill of having as much sex as you want with as many partners as you want, you develop a different perspective.
I agree about the motoconchos. Pain in the butt. I used to ride them frequently, but now I never do. One thing I don't like is that they almost NEVER have change even for small bills, or claim that they don't.
I find the Haitian girls are usually better than the Dominicanas. Often more intelligent, better educated, and generally more likeable.
Great report bro. After 27 days, your observations are appreciated. Coming from someone who has experienced the before and after, I no longer feel like a loner when I say, 'Things are different now'.
Mr Enternational
10-28-11, 06:19
Luckily I was lock-in with a chica the entire trip (something I will never do again in the future).What happened man? Why won't you lock in with 1 chica again?
Hello gents,
For you non Spanish speaking individuals who want to learn basic Spanish and how to talk to chicas I've got something for you. First let me state that I have no finacial gaon in this. I talk to this girl every morning and figured she might help you. She speaks good English, is very pretty, and can give you a good perspective about Spanish and chicas. The price is about what you would spend for breakfast, but thats between you and her. She has skype and ovoos or something like that. I know what you guys are thinking (is she fucking?) Thats between you and her. If there are problems let me know because I am responsible. Pm me for more info.
P. S. This is one of my main girls so please respect her. But if you bang her its no prob, she is a buisiness women also, so don't think Gogo doesn't understand.
SavePros321
10-28-11, 07:33
What happened man? Why won't you lock in with 1 chica again?I felt silly being in the pro capital of the DR telling other pros that I can't take them back to my room because there is already a chica in there (I had told her that I was only going to spend the entire trip with her). I even was about to sneak off and book a room at Rocky's trying to be sly one morning when she went to check on her hijo. Took me about an hour to think of the idea. By the time I came back from getting a day rate quote from Rocky's to going back to TL to get the money and a few condoms from the safe to stash in the "hideaway" she comes banging on the door like the muthafuckin police (probably hoping to had caught me with another chica in my room) just as I was about to walk out of it.
Basically I felt like a chump the entire trip. Had I been in SD or Santiago with only one chica it would have been a different story, but here I was being "harrassed" by sexy ass chicas strolling the block for most of the day and all I could tell them was "no puedo". And to add insult to injury, trying to redeem myself with a return trip the crackdowns began two months later!
I have just spent 27 days based in Sosua, came back 2 weeks ago, with a 9 day break during that time visiting Santo Domingo and Santiago, so I think I am quite well qualified to offer my views about the place.
Nightspots.
From my perspective, the best quality ladies are to be found in the Merengue bar and in Classico's, though the quality and quantity is definitely not what it was when I was there in February this year. The best nights tend to be Thursday, Friday, and surprisingly Sunday and even Monday can be very lively. Saturday night in Classico's in particular is not much fun, as it is...Good report. You're lucky to have been in the DR for so long. Personally, I would have been all over the island. So-sewer gets old for me after 4 days. The food at the German spot next to Clasicos isn't bad either and they don't charge tax like Baileys. Rockys has pretty good breakfast. I also like Susana's and a couple of spots on the beach for fresh fish. Cabarete used to have better options as well, but it seems like they fell off.
I agree 100% about the motos. I think it was recently announced that Sosua will be closing the strip to vehicular traffic in the near future, kinda like Times Square. This is a result of similar complaints like yours. You were right on point as well about not telling people too much about yourself or your plans. People might be surprised at how much of a Soap Opera Sosua is and how much people gossip about other people.
I also agree with your take on the women. Most of my trips to Sosua are solo now because its hard to get my friends to go back after visiting other countries, they have moved on. I've had 2 plane tickets to POP that I canceled this year after visiting other countries and wanting to return to them instead.
In general, as you pointed out, Sosua has too many hustlers and beggers. Even the beach is less appealing to me now because there are 200 times more beach chairs on the beach than people. I remember when the beach didn't have so many beach chairs damn near in the water, but everyone is trying to hustle.
I'll be spending about 3 more weeks in the DR this year of which about 6 days will be in Sosua. I like the Beach area, but Sosua is a place you can graduate from quickly. The DR is a beautiful country and there are women all over, but Sosua is a good lazy option in moderation.
Protected and untouchable are almost synonyms.Jao are you trying to get me hit in Sosua? I don't know squat about the owner of Classicos, except that he is a Sosua buisiness man that has clout. I don't care about allegations involving murder and crime families. And I sure don't know anything about his involvment with corrupt cops.
If you have problems with the Policia or the fact that the owner of Classicos didn't talk to, thats your problem. Please don't try to make my visits to the DR more dangerous for me. I repeat'Gogo don't know squat'.
Charles Pooter
10-28-11, 20:55
The food at the German spot next to Clasicos isn't bad either and they don't charge tax like Baileys.They have to charge 16. 5 ITBIS tax by law, but what you mean is they include it in the prices shown instead of adding it on afterwards. Something for newbies to watch out for. Of the restaurants I use in Pto Pta and Sosúa I would say more than half add on the taxes to the price shown on the menu. 16. 5% for ITBIS and another 10% for service can push a reasonably-priced meal into the "somewhat expensive" bracket.
Charles Pooter
10-28-11, 21:08
I find the Haitian girls are usually better than the Dominicanas. Often more intelligent, better educated, and generally more likeable.You know you got my vote with that one. Add "harder working" and "more honest" to that list too, not that comparing with Dominicans is setting the bar very high on those two criteria. Obviously once a haitiana has been in Sosúa a few months she sinks to the level of the locals so either find them in other towns or look for wet and sandy ankles to show they just waded across the border.
I agree about the motoconchos. Pain in the butt. I used to ride them frequently, but now I never do. One thing I don't like is that they almost NEVER have change even for small bills, or claim that they don't.Rarely a problem here in Pto Pta plus they only charge about half as much to start with. I can understand people not riding motos as they are dangerous, but not having change is a funny reason for a guy who spends so much time in the DR. When I go out I always carry change. It is not hard to acquire. The banks are full of it.
Charles Pooter
10-28-11, 21:31
Good post, Coupe66, and I agree with your general observations. Dominicans were at the back of the queue when the Lord handed out brains, self-respect and consideration for others, but as Jaosousa says, things do get a lot better outside Sosúa, which is the asshole of the whole nation.
Anyway, flying around on the back of some stupid moped with no protection is inherently dangerous, even though others may say that they never crash.LOL, I would like to meet someone who says that. They would have to be deaf, blind and very stupid. I have never heard anyone suggest that and, frankly, I would be amazed if you had.
I use them all the time in Puerto Plata which is much more spread out than Sosúa. It is just too inconvenient and expensive for me to use taxis but I am always aware how dangerous the motos are and I have had one very lucky escape already. I now minimise the danger by using a couple of mature guys who drive slowly and carefully because they know they will lose my (very useful to them) regular business if they don't, but however well they drive and maintain their bikes you cannot legislate for the other idiots.
But in El Batey I agree everything is walking distance unless you are physically handicapped so I support your plea to boycott the motos.
I felt silly being in the pro capital of the DR telling other pros that I can't take them back to my room because there is already a chica in there (I had told her that I was only going to spend the entire trip with her). I even was about to sneak off and book a room at Rocky's trying to be sly one morning when she went to check on her hijo. Took me about an hour to think of the idea. By the time I came back from getting a day rate quote from Rocky's to going back to TL to get the money and a few condoms from the safe to stash in the "hideaway" she comes banging on the door like the muthafuckin police (probably hoping to had caught me with another chica in my room) just as I was about to walk out of it.
Basically I felt like a chump the entire trip. Had I been in SD or Santiago with only one chica it would have been a different story, but here I was being "harrassed" by sexy ass chicas strolling the block for most of the day and all I could tell them was "no puedo". And to add insult to injury, trying to redeem myself with a return trip the crackdowns began two months later!Too bad that going to La Passion didn't cross your mind. No room to get only seat for a beer and choose one, you could had been back within an hour and 1/4. Since they have done the renovations the place is very decent, including the back room. For some reasons, guy don't think about that place. Last time I went they had a decent choice. When I arrive in DR after the plane trip, I usually don't feel like going through the hunting and negotiations. Main reason is that if you are horny over your head which is "unfortunately" the case when I land, my mind doesn't always think straight, the small head take over the big one and that's when you do costly mistake (being there done that). By going at la Passion first, I get rid of my craving, then go for a good night sleep (after a lot of beers) , then the next day I am ready to do my hunting with my big head being clear minded.
They have to charge 16. 5 ITBIS tax by law, but what you mean is they include it in the prices shown instead of adding it on afterwards. Something for newbies to watch out for. Of the restaurants I use in Pto Pta and Sosúa I would say more than half add on the taxes to the price shown on the menu. 16. 5% for ITBIS and another 10% for service can push a reasonably-priced meal into the "somewhat expensive" bracket.Good catch. If I only see the menu price, I don't even think about what that might include, but I noticed when taxes etc. Get added in at the end and increase the price I targeted on the menu. In addition, those taxes can make a meal already on the high end more than I want to spend.
Manizales911
10-29-11, 03:55
Too bad that going to La Passion didn't cross your mind. No room to get only seat for a beer and choose one, you could had been back within an hour and 1/4. Since they have done the renovations the place is very decent, including the back room. For some reasons, guy don't think about that place. Last time I went they had a decent choice. When I arrive in DR after the plane trip, I usually don't feel like going through the hunting and negotiations. Main reason is that if you are horny over your head which is "unfortunately" the case when I land, my mind doesn't always think straight, the small head take over the big one and that's when you do costly mistake (being there done that). By going at la Passion first, I get rid of my craving, then go for a good night sleep (after a lot of beers) , then the next day I am ready to do my hunting with my big head being clear minded.Horny,
Guys think of it, they just won't pay the extra $25. That it costs over getting a street rat on Pedro Clisante like it is a sin to pay a slightly higher price for better pussy, I never understood it myself. A lot of guys will go back to the hotel empty handed if they don't find what they want and jerk off before spending 2500 to bang a hot, young slim girl on a clean bed in a safe secure environment. I'm not saying everybody should go there all the time but for me personally if I scope out the usual haunts and don't see something I like I go straight to La Passion because I am almost guaranteed to find what I want there and the extra 1000 pesos ain't going to break my bank. I am only in town sometimes for as little as six days and don't have time to mess around.
SavePros321
10-29-11, 04:43
Too bad that going to La Passion didn't cross your mind. No room to get only seat for a beer and choose one, you could had been back within an hour and 1/4. Since they have done the renovations the place is very decent, including the back room. For some reasons, guy don't think about that place. Last time I went they had a decent choice. When I arrive in DR after the plane trip, I usually don't feel like going through the hunting and negotiations. Main reason is that if you are horny over your head which is "unfortunately" the case when I land, my mind doesn't always think straight, the small head take over the big one and that's when you do costly mistake (being there done that). By going at la Passion first, I get rid of my craving, then go for a good night sleep (after a lot of beers) , then the next day I am ready to do my hunting with my big head being clear minded.La Passions was the LAST THING to cross my mind, LOL. You probably haven't been following my work but I've stated time and again that those skinny broads do nothing for me. Nothing against the owner or the establishment, but Peter seriously needs to talk to the guys up in Costambar because they (Blackbeard's) know what the hell they are doing when it comes to selection of women and variety. Granted, La Passions does try to wow me every now and then (see "Nicaury" in the models section of La Passions website) but they aren't consistent. Compare that to any of the newsletter from BB's going back years; those guys know the meaning of "Consistency" as far as selection goes. Even on the slim side, Johanny (spelling) still blows any of the La Passion chicas away.
Ask Mr. Gogo to show you who the winner was of the BB's bikini contest when he was last down there. I would have gladly hopped a taxi to and from Costambar to have tagged her ass and wouldn't have given La Passions a second thought!
Manizales911
10-29-11, 05:09
La Passions was the LAST THING to cross my mind, LOL. You probably haven't been following my work but I've stated time and again that those skinny broads do nothing for me. Nothing against the owner or the establishment, but Peter seriously needs to talk to the guys up in Costambar because they (Blackbeard's) know what the hell they are doing when it comes to selection of women and variety. Granted, La Passions does try to wow me every now and then (see "Nicaury" in the models section of La Passions website) but they aren't consistent. Compare that to any of the newsletter from BB's going back years; those guys know the meaning of "Consistency" as far as selection goes. Even on the slim side, Johanny (spelling) still blows any of the La Passion chicas away.
Ask Mr. Gogo to show you who the winner was of the BB's bikini contest when he was last down there. I would have gladly hopped a taxi to and from Costambar to have tagged her ass and wouldn't have given La Passions a second thought!Savepros,
LA Passions has a little bit of everything, tall short thick thin you name it. The photos on Peter's website are hand picked and show mostly the slimmer girls because that is what most guys are looking for. Besides, his turnover over there is so high he could never keep the photos current. The only way to know what is currently available there is to go there. Yojanny is a rock star for sure and she has put quite a bit of meat on her bones since the first time I was with her 4 years ago and she put it on in a good way. Like they say"different strokes for different folks".
La Passions was the LAST THING to cross my mind, LOL. You probably haven't been following my work but I've stated time and again that those skinny broads do nothing for me. Nothing against the owner or the establishment, but Peter seriously needs to talk to the guys up in Costambar because they (Blackbeard's) know what the hell they are doing when it comes to selection of women and variety. Granted, La Passions does try to wow me every now and then (see "Nicaury" in the models section of La Passions website) but they aren't consistent. Compare that to any of the newsletter from BB's going back years; those guys know the meaning of "Consistency" as far as selection goes. Even on the slim side, Johanny (spelling) still blows any of the La Passion chicas away.
Ask Mr. Gogo to show you who the winner was of the BB's bikini contest when he was last down there. I would have gladly hopped a taxi to and from Costambar to have tagged her ass and wouldn't have given La Passions a second thought!Yes Mani, different strokes for different folks. But BB has more variety, as you will see in the video. The winner is No 8, but I don't see any chicas in Passions like this. My 100usd bet was on No10, and I lost. No1 is more like a passion girl and she came in second. Naturally it helped that one of the judges was a brother and trully appreciated the assets No 8 had.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6jFR-mIQvg
SavePros321
10-29-11, 06:50
Yojanny is a rock star for sure and she has put quite a bit of meat on her bones since the first time I was with her 4 years ago and she put it on in a good way.Amen to that! I heard that chica has a ton of k*ds, which would wreck the bodies of most women. In her case, the more she has, the finer she gets!
Manizales911
10-29-11, 14:15
Amen to that! I heard that chica has a ton of k*ds, which would wreck the bodies of most women. In her case, the more she has, the finer she gets!She has 4 kids. The only thing wrecked are her breasts as you can imagine after 4 children. She told me she is seriously considering getting bolt-ons. She definitely looks better with the added weight, her performance has always been 5 star. A cool person to talk to also.
Manizales911
10-29-11, 14:22
Yes Mani, different strokes for different folks. But BB has more variety, as you will see in the video. The winner is No 8, but I don't see any chicas in Passions like this. My 100usd bet was on No10, and I lost. No1 is more like a passion girl and she came in second. Naturally it helped that one of the judges was a brother and trully appreciated the assets No 8 had.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6jFR-mIQvgNumber eight is Katheline (sp?) and is a deep throat specialist in case anyone is interested, one of the best oral performers on the island. She was one of 5 girls that me and a wingman had shacked up in a villa down the street from BB's last year, a truly memorable time.
MiamiHeatLuver
10-29-11, 16:59
Not a big fan of passions either. I don't like the overly phony affectionate attitudes of the girls there (the girls all look at you like you are steak on a deserted island and will hound you endlessly for beers LOL) too many gringos consolidated to one area, not a big fan of peter (long story) , Don't like the time or pricing structures, not a fan of brothels.
I like to hunt, the negotiating, pretending that the girl just arrived from Bani and I'm here first client in Sosua. Yeah right hahaha LOL. For me thats half the fun. Not some hoe who works in a brothel swallowing 4+ different mens loads. Gross. (yes I know I'm playing myself thinking a street girl is any different but it's a mental thing for me lol) If you like everything handed to on a plate then Passions is for you. Hey but that's why we love the ole SoSewer you can do as you like. And different strokes. Me? I have found some nice ones just riding around on my scooter and even though their not suppose to you can find many of the passions girls "roaming" from place to place when is closes looking for extra work.
Damn shame what they did to that dog!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDypomWH6so&feature=youtube_gdata"If you had a sister and a dog, I'd choose the dog", Jack Sparrow to Penelope Cruz (at the 33 second mark, Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides = Jack and Angelica. Island scene). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wka9SgaodMk
Speaking of Coming to America, I wonder how Oakie is doing with his Caribbean Princess in the far North.
Not a big fan of passions either. I don't like the overly phony affectionate attitudes of the girls there (the girls all look at you like you are steak on a deserted island and will hound you endlessly for beers LOL) too many gringos consolidated to one area, not a big fan of peter (long story) , Don't like the time or pricing structures, not a fan of brothels.I can't wait to see what happens when The Russians start working there!
Manizales911
10-29-11, 22:45
I can't wait to see what happens when The Russians start working there!Not going to happen. They want their own club and the prices they charge don't fit the Sosua model. Just go to the place in Cabarete that has the Russians and you'll see.
Not going to happen. They want their own club and the prices they charge don't fit the Sosua model. Just go to the place in Cabarete that has the Russians and you'll see.Passions is "their own club" according to my Russian friend.
Manizales911
10-29-11, 23:51
Passions is "their own club" according to my Russian friend.My understanding it is half "their own club" but who really knows. What I meant was that the Russian girls aren't going to mix with the Dominican girls. If it became "all of their club" then maybe they would kick all the Dominican girls out and have only Russians but as long as Peter has his hands in it that won't happen because he isn't that stupid. When I went to the Russian place me and my friends were the only people in there for the whole time we were there.
My understanding it is half "their own club" but who really knows. What I meant was that the Russian girls aren't going to mix with the Dominican girls. If it became "all of their club" then maybe they would kick all the Dominican girls out and have only Russians but as long as Peter has his hands in it that won't happen because he isn't that stupid. When I went to the Russian place me and my friends were the only people in there for the whole time we were there.I personally have zero interest in non-Dominican toto when in country. If I wanted Eastern European ass, I would go to the source. As far as Peter's situation, there are a few versions of the story floating around, and I am not sure which one is true, nor do I care. He built the place up like a Miami strip club to sell it. I miss the straw hut days adjacent to the Blue Dolphin.
Mr Enternational
10-30-11, 04:15
Not going to happen. They want their own club and the prices they charge don't fit the Sosua model.Exactly. What self-respecting Russian hooker is going to leave Russia to make less than she would at home. On the street in Moscow I was offered a girl for 5,000 rubbles (US$167) short time. Who on this board has ever given a girl in DR that kind of money?
Exactly. What self-respecting Russian hooker is going to leave Russia to make less than she would at home. On the street in Moscow I was offered a girl for 5,000 rubbles (US$167) short time. Who on this board has ever given a girl in DR that kind of money?Bingo. Just browse www.dosug.cz And salivate, my friends.
SavePros321
10-30-11, 09:52
This should be a topic near and dear to all of us. Realizing that it is in Viagra's best interest to steer you away from buying generic ED meds or Viagra from anyone one other than the original source, it still was shocking to find that some of these online companies are putting shit like boric acid in their pills (if you've ever had to deal with cockroaches then you should know what boric acid is). I definitely don't want that trash going anywhere near my dick! :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj0VemSzBB4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
"What are counterfeit medicines? Get the facts in the first part of our video series about the dangers of counterfeits. From the dirty labs where they are made to the online scams used to trick you, you'll learn just how dangerous counterfeit medicines can be."
What are the current rates for a ST in Passions?
I prefer to find freelancers but might pop in to have a look.
[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1211433]La Passions was the LAST THING to cross my mind, LOL. You probably haven't been following my work but I've stated time and again that those skinny broads do nothing for me. Nothing against the owner or the establishment, but Peter seriously needs to talk to the guys up in Costambar because they (Blackbeard's) know what the hell they are doing when it comes to selection of women and variety. Granted, La Passions does try to wow me every now and then (see "Nicaury" in the models section of La Passions website) but they aren't consistent. Compare that to any of the newsletter from BB's going back years; those guys know the meaning of "Consistency" as far as selection goes. Even on the slim side, Johanny (spelling) still blows any of the La Passion chicas away.
I wasn't in any suggesting that all your mongering should be done at la Passion, but as I explained, after plane trip for the first evening I like to take it cool, so the Passion is a fit for me " under those conditions". Or if you are stuck with a Chica and have only short period available.
As for BB, it still one of my favorite place but for a week-end but never more than 3 days. I get bored and need to go for some action. I expect to be there this year for the Christmas day. Which bring me the following question, Krystal as always been one of my favorite, now that she is the Mamasan, do somebody know if she still do some work on the side?
Manizales911
10-30-11, 15:29
Exactly. What self-respecting Russian hooker is going to leave Russia to make less than she would at home. On the street in Moscow I was offered a girl for 5,000 rubbles (US$167) short time. Who on this board has ever given a girl in DR that kind of money?Some people would say that there are enough wealthy Russians in the DR to support a Russian only club but I personally don't think there are as many as some people think there are, and not all of them would be into P4P. As I previously reported there is a Russian only place above the casino in Cabarete, ridiculous prices but beautiful women. I just had a couple drinks and left.
Ath Trainer
10-30-11, 18:23
Some people would say that there are enough wealthy Russians in the DR to support a Russian only club but I personally don't think there are as many as some people think there are, and not all of them would be into P4P. As I previously reported there is a Russian only place above the casino in Cabarete, ridiculous prices but beautiful women. I just had a couple drinks and left.For those who are familiar with mongering in St. Martin, the brothels are stocked with Colombians and Dominicans. The going rate is $50 for a 30 minute session.
There is a strip club on the island, located near the high rise resorts that is stocked with Eastern Euro girls. The going rate starts@$300. I could take 5 Colombians up to a room at the same time, and still have enough $ left over to take the best one for round two, LOL.
Marc Anthony
10-30-11, 19:06
This should be a topic near and dear to all of us. Realizing that it is in Viagra's best interest to steer you away from buying generic ED meds or Viagra from anyone one other than the original source, it still was shocking to find that some of these online companies are putting shit like boric acid in their pills (if you've ever had to deal with cockroaches then you should know what boric acid is). I definitely don't want that trash going anywhere near my dick! :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj0VemSzBB4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
"What are counterfeit medicines? Get the facts in the first part of our video series about the dangers of counterfeits. From the dirty labs where they are made to the online scams used to trick you, you'll learn just how dangerous counterfeit medicines can be."Also keep in mind that counterfeits, generics, and alternative brands (like La Pela or Kamagra) are three distinct categories. You are more likely to encounter a counterfeit of an original brand like Viagra than a counterfeit of an Indian alternative like Kamagra that sells for less. The adulterated meds are typically counterfeits where they spend on the packaging but don't care what goes into the pill.
There is a strip club on the island, located near the high rise resorts that is stocked with Eastern Euro girls. The going rate starts@$300. I could take 5 Colombians up to a room at the same time, and still have enough $ left over to take the best one for round two, LOL.Can't agree more AT!
I was in St. Maarten in June and spend a little bit of time in Platinum, which is the place I assume that you are talking about. I briefly chatted with a Russian girl and she quoted me $750 for takeout service. I said,"Lady, either you have some kind of wonder pussy, or you mistook dollars for pesos." It appeared that humor was not allowed at Platinum.
Worst yet, she was not that hot! I would take an average looking hot blooded Colombian and Dominican over most of those girls that worked in Platinum. Including the one I was with at Bada Bing, picture included.
What are the current rates for a ST in Passions?
I prefer to find freelancers but might pop in to have a look.Onsite FS is RD2500, take out is much more. A massage, grope and hit and miss BBBJ is $1300!
Here is the link, remove the spaces.
http :/passions-sosua. Com? Page_id=11
SavePros321
10-30-11, 22:04
Also keep in mind that counterfeits, generics, and alternative brands (like La Pela or Kamagra) are three distinct categories. You are more likely to encounter a counterfeit of an original brand like Viagra than a counterfeit of an Indian alternative like Kamagra that sells for less. The adulterated meds are typically counterfeits where they spend on the packaging but don't care what goes into the pill.Are you saying that with generic versions of Tadalafil (my personal favorite) and Sildenafil you don't have to be worried about them being cut with crap like boric acid and dry wall? I don't have a prescription and a long time ago I did buy Cialis from kwikmeds dot com, but I guess those are prime candidates for counterfeiting as well. I like La Pela when I am in the DR and would like to find a generic form of Tadalafil similar to La Pela, but I guess there is no way to tell if what you are getting won't contain any junk inside huh?
Professor 1
10-31-11, 00:13
Can't agree more AT!
I was in St. Maarten in June and spend a little bit of time in Platinum, which is the place I assume that you are talking about. I briefly chatted with a Russian girl and she quoted me $750 for takeout service. I said,"Lady, either you have some kind of wonder pussy, or you mistook dollars for pesos." It appeared that humor was not allowed at Platinum.
Worst yet, she was not that hot! I would take an average looking hot blooded Colombian and Dominican over most of those girls that worked in Platinum. Including the one I was with at Bada Bing, picture included.I would take a homeless girl in DR or Costa Rica, clean her up, take her to dinner, and return to the hotel before paying Russian rates in a third world country. Believe you me, the homeless girl will be most appreciative.
[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1211433]La Passions was the LAST THING to cross my mind, LOL. You probably haven't been following my work but I've stated time and again that those skinny broads do nothing for me. Nothing against the owner or the establishment, but Peter seriously needs to talk to the guys up in Costambar because they (Blackbeard's) know what the hell they are doing when it comes to selection of women and variety. Granted, La Passions does try to wow me every now and then (see "Nicaury" in the models section of La Passions website) but they aren't consistent. Compare that to any of the newsletter from BB's going back years; those guys know the meaning of "Consistency" as far as selection goes. Even on the slim side, Johanny (spelling) still blows any of the La Passion chicas away.
I wasn't in any suggesting that all your mongering should be done at la Passion, but as I explained, after plane trip for the first evening I like to take it cool, so the Passion is a fit for me " under those conditions". Or if you are stuck with a Chica and have only short period available.
As for BB, it still one of my favorite place but for a week-end but never more than 3 days. I get bored and need to go for some action. I expect to be there this year for the Christmas day. Which bring me the following question, Krystal as always been one of my favorite, now that she is the Mamasan, do somebody know if she still do some work on the side?As of last May, Krystal was still fuckin. ' My boy had her and said she was excellent. I think he had to wait till the end of the day though due to her other responsiblities. I want to fuck the other mamasan, I think her name is Flor. She is a thick red bone and has the biggest ass at BB hands down! Has anyone ever had her? I asked around while I was there and I was told that she doesn't give it up.
Ill be back at BB on 11/27. Can't wait!
BogieMaker
11-01-11, 00:19
[QUOTE=Horny B; 1211865]As of last May, Krystal was still fuckin. ' My boy had her and said she was excellent. I think he had to wait till the end of the day though due to her other responsiblities. I want to fuck the other mamasan, I think her name is Flor. She is a thick red bone and has the biggest ass at BB hands down! Has anyone ever had her? I asked around while I was there and I was told that she doesn't give it up.
Ill be back at BB on 11/27. Can't wait!According to the last newsletter Flor is headed to Switzerland to be with her man. When I was there a couple of weeks ago they were training a replacement.
I am pleasantly surprised by the positive reaction to my last post, as I thought I would get hassled for it being too negative. Of course it is a personal experience and opinion, but I tried to be honest about the place, not try to talk it up or down. I was actually there for a week longer than intended, as I had to wait for an available flight home, my fault for not booking it before I travelled! At first I was in Sosua for a week, then took off to Santo Domingo for a week and Santiago for 3 days, before heading back to Sosua. To be honest I was pretty exhausted from my time in Santo Domingo, so just kind of gave up on my adventurous side when I returned to Sosua, for that trip at least. I will also post on Santo Domingo and Santiago in a few days, which were again totally different experiences to Sosua.
As my stay in Sosua wore on on I got slightly bored with eating at the same joints all the time and got more adventurous by eating at the grill place beside Latino's bar. I found the grilled chicken and meat there delicious, however the last night I ate there tried Lambi, whatever that is? Some kind of seafood I think? Anyway, to cut a long story short I think I may have been too adventurous there in my eating out, because from the following day onwards I was pretty ill, lost my appetite in food and yes, sadly pretty much sex too for the last few days of my trip! So I guess that experience put an unfair general downer on my recollections of my last few days there.
The next time I return I would definitely like to experience more of the country, as Jaosousa suggested, just hope this last trip has not put me off too much. Travelling by bus I can see that this is a beautiful country, on my trips from Sosua to Santo Domingo for example I have been through some gorgeous countryside and some nice and clean looking towns. Inland from Punta Cana, around Higuey the country is also lovely looking, and quite different from the north coast. There are also the practical issues to think about when travelling around though; finding a decent place to stay in small towns, the expensive price of car rentals, personal safety, among other issues.
When I first got to Sosua, I thought about renting a motorbike to be able to do my own thing, but when I found out no comprehensive insurance was possible on a bike and they would want a huge deposit or my passport (some chance of that!) I quickly went off the idea. I also started to think like a sensible boring tourist, thinking about what would happen if I crashed and ruined my vacation in the first few days. When I do travel back to the DR though I definitely want to sort out some private transport, either a car or motorbike, to give me some independence there. I am sure that would be a more fun way to get around, see the country and meet girls.
I am a generally friendly and outgoing guy, and grew up in a pretty soft European city. All you New Yorker's out there who visit Sosua, you probably don't notice the hard nature of the town as much as I do, since you come from such a huge, impersonal and tough city like New York. I am not comparing New York to Sosua in any way of course! If you stay in Sosua for a long time, and want to avoid being hassled and any trouble, you also have to walk around looking and acting tough with a look of general disinterest on your face. This works, but like I said above, goes against my nature and is not something I enjoy doing.
Before I travelled on this trip I got loads of phone numbers from chicks from badoo, but I don't know why I bothered, because when I was there didn't bother phoning any! I suppose this is because of a few reasons. If you start your trip in Sosua, where you can get sex easily, you become lazy and then cannot be bothered with all the hassle of arranging meetings, taking a girl out for a meal etc etc, hoping that you might get her into bed. On top of this you develop a general subconscious impression that all chicas in the country are putas, so why bother with all the pretence and bullshit in the first place? I am not saying this is true, I hope not! Some girls on badoo throw their phone numbers at me after a couple of messages, but some seem genuinely looking for proper realtionships.
Having said that, the next time I come to the DR, I will try to keep my hard on in my pants at least for the first few days, and do things the other way around, ie first try to date a few non pro's and girls met on the internet and see where that takes me, and there is always Sosua and other mongering options to fall back on if nothing works out. A problem with meeting internet girls though is that they live all over the country, so you need to be young and full of energy to bother roaming around to meet them. Even if they live in Santo Domingo, it covers a wide area, and I would not like to venture into some parts of that city. Better to have them meet you where you're staying.
There were a couple of gorgeous looking chicas from badoo who wanted me to visit them in La Vega and Bonao for example, but the Metro bus doesn't stop there, and taking care of my tired legs was more important to me than my urge to meet them; I was not about to go looking for local buses from Santiago crawling their way to their towns. Anyway, I know this sounds negative. Next time, I really do want to visit these towns and be more adventurous, just need to work out a safe, and not too tiring or complicated way of doing it.
Charles Pooter
11-01-11, 03:32
Lambi is cooked conch usually eaten with vinegar. I am amazed, when you think how much trips cost per day, after amortizing your airfare, hotel and other expenses, that guys risk losing two, three or more days of their expensive trip taking chances on what they eat, when it is perfectly easy and cheap to eat safely in the DR. I know some guys have cast iron guts so they can eat any old shit with confidence, but someone who was brought up in a "civilized" and "hygienic" European city doesn't get the chance to build up his resistance.
The Caribe Tours bus from Sosua and Pto Plata stops at La Vega. I would spend your next trip travelling around on the local buses. It is cheap and fun. When you have seen all you can conveniently see that way, you might thing about renting a car on a subsequent trip, but before doing so read up on all the horror stories about scams and make sure you have the right insurance with Casa del Conductor coverage (most don't include it). Could keep you out of jail where you might be eating a lot worse shit than lambi.
Lambi is cooked conch usually eaten with vinegar. I am amazed, when you think how much trips cost per day, after amortizing your airfare, hotel and other expenses, that guys risk losing two, three or more days of their expensive trip taking chances on what they eat, when it is perfectly easy and cheap to eat safely in the DR. I know some guys have cast iron guts so they can eat any old shit with confidence, but someone who was brought up in a "civilized" and "hygienic" European city doesn't get the chance to build up his resistance.
Like I said in my earlier report, I mainly ate at Baileys, Morua Mai and other places along Pedro Clisante. The food joint where I had this Lambi beside Latino's bar is well frequented by tourists. I think it is owned by the same American guy who owns Latino's (looks like James Belushi on a bad night!). I had eaten there several times before so generally trusted the place. I knew it was seafood, just didn't know the translation for Lambi ! Anyway, I'm not even sure if it was this that made me ill, who knows, and everything else I had there was great!
But if you're saying I shouldn't have tried this, what happens when you start wondering all over the country by car or motorbike, and have to eat at lots of new places all over the place? Considering I stayed in the country for 36 days, I think to eat something bad one time is not bad going and is just par for the course, just like you will have bad luck with some ladies as well, it is just the law of averages in the end. As a comparison, I have had bad cases of food poisoning in Spain several times, eating fairly standard things, requiring me to visit hospital on one occasion, and that in an advanced Western European Country. To cut a long story short, you can get food poisoning anywhere.
Immodium, pepto bismol and others can be bought over the counter (no prescription) before any trip, to help with an upset stomach.
La Vega and Bonao are adjacent to the highway between Santiago and Santo Domingo. La Vega is about a 15-20 minute drive south of Santiago. Some people who live in La Vega study or work in Santiago, there is low cost transportation between La Vega and Santiago. If you are in Santo Domingo, Vegano Express operates buses that go back forth and between La Vega and Santo Domingo.
Bonao is about one hour from Santo Domingo (depending on Santo Domingo traffic). Bonao is about an hour south of Santiago.
This site list 7 hotels in Bonao: http://www.hotel-dominican-republic.net/ And 9 hotels in La Vega.
Good reports, thanks.
I am pleasantly surprised by the positive reaction to my last post, as I thought I would get hassled for it being too negative. Of course it is a personal experience and opinion, but I tried to be honest about the place, not try to talk it up or down. I was actually there for a week longer than intended, as I had to wait...
You know you got my vote with that one. Add "harder working" and "more honest" to that list too, not that comparing with Dominicans is setting the bar very high on those two criteria. Obviously once a haitiana has been in Sosúa a few months she sinks to the level of the locals so either find them in other towns or look for wet and sandy ankles to show they just waded across the border.Some Dominicanas say aye papi, dame duro and other such words in Spanish during sex. Do Haitian chicas have favorite words they like to say during sex (in French or Kreyol)?
Tempoecorto
11-01-11, 07:26
I am pleasantly surprised by the positive reaction to my last post, as I thought I would get hassled for it being too negative. Of course it is a personal experience and opinion, but I tried to be honest about the place, not try to talk it up or down.
Next time, I really do want to visit these towns and be more adventurous, just need to work out a safe, and not too tiring or complicated way of doing it.Hi,
Personally, I liked your "update" more than the original because I felt the first one was too critical, true albeit they might be. This particular update I found you speaking from your heart and was pleasantly surprised to note an adventurous person, in experimenting with new food, places and transportation plans, for example.
Based on my personal experiences, I was there two times for a week each time. I chose to go to Santiago the second time which I found more stimulating but with disappointments as well. Which of course made it better. I also learned eating local food which I was not interested in my first week and first time. Personally, I find lining up people before going down, to be effective and of course, when you are tired or out of luck, there is always Sosua. There is a down-side to it too, you just might fall in "love" or someone might actually have a heartbreak taking you seriously. I always wonder / worry about that.
By the way, I enjoyed your writing as well. Coming from where I come from, I value a well-constructed sentence, perhaps with deadpan humor thrown in with total nonchalance as some people here do with elan.
Marc Anthony
11-01-11, 09:36
Are you saying that with generic versions of Tadalafil (my personal favorite) and Sildenafil you don't have to be worried about them being cut with crap like boric acid and dry wall? I don't have a prescription and a long time ago I did buy Cialis from kwikmeds dot com, but I guess those are prime candidates for counterfeiting as well. I like La Pela when I am in the DR and would like to find a generic form of Tadalafil similar to La Pela, but I guess there is no way to tell if what you are getting won't contain any junk inside huh?I've had good results with the dr with la pela and kamagra too. Just distinguishing between generic, alternative brand and counterfeit. If I was counterfeiting drugs I wouldn't bother with lower priced generic versions would you? No data, I just don't see any good argument to pay more for us name brands that reason suggests are more likely to be counterfeits in the dr.
Manizales911
11-01-11, 14:19
Lambi is cooked conch usually eaten with vinegar. I am amazed, when you think how much trips cost per day, after amortizing your airfare, hotel and other expenses, that guys risk losing two, three or more days of their expensive trip taking chances on what they eat, when it is perfectly easy and cheap to eat safely in the DR. I know some guys have cast iron guts so they can eat any old shit with confidence, but someone who was brought up in a "civilized" and "hygienic" European city doesn't get the chance to build up his resistance.
The Caribe Tours bus from Sosua and Pto Plata stops at La Vega. I would spend your next trip travelling around on the local buses. It is cheap and fun. When you have seen all you can conveniently see that way, you might thing about renting a car on a subsequent trip, but before doing so read up on all the horror stories about scams and make sure you have the right insurance with Casa del Conductor coverage (most don't include it). Could keep you out of jail where you might be eating a lot worse shit than lambi.Charles,
I think you are being a bit hard on the guy. It's not like he was eating off a food wagon or anything. The place he suspects he got the food poisoning is a restaurant known to be a decent place. You live on island and it may be easy for you to know where not to eat but for someone who is a tourist it isn't that easy other than avoiding street carts. I don't get food poisoning very easily but the last time I did was so bad I ended up in the hospital and that was from eating at Blackbeards and we all know that usually isn't a bad place to eat. You can get food poisoning eating anywhere. Personally I avoid seafood altogether when I travel abroad because that is what seems to be the most common denominator from reading reports on here.
Charles Pooter
11-01-11, 20:47
You can get food poisoning eating anywhere.You can be knocked down in the street in most countries but that doesn't make it a good idea to step in front of a bus. By which I mean minimise your risks even if you cannot eliminate them. As you say, avoid seafood unless you know the place well.
I think you are being a bit hard on the guy. It's not like he was eating off a food wagon or anything. The place he suspects he got the food poisoning is a restaurant known to be a decent place.If it is "known to be a decent place", and I respect your knowledge, then I apologize. It is just that I have never fancied eating there and in seven years none of the hundreds of people I have dined with in Sosua have ever chosen that venue, so I assumed the worst. Apparently unfairly. Apologies, Coupe66.
Charles Pooter
11-01-11, 20:53
Some Dominicanas say aye papi, dame duro and other such words in Spanish during sex. Do Haitian chicas have favorite words they like to say during sex (in French or Kreyol)?They have been known to murmur "Ban mwen pi lajan" and "Piti mwen malad" in the throes of passion.
They have been known to murmur "Ban mwen pi lajan" and "Piti mwen malad" in the throes of passion.LOL.
Ban mwen pi lajan=Give me the money.
Haitianas no different than many chicas in the world, haha.
They have been known to murmur "Ban mwen pi lajan" and "Piti mwen malad" in the throes of passion."pran bourik mwen an" or "kom tout lòt peyi sou figi m' " from google translate.
Tempoecorto
11-02-11, 01:01
They have been known to murmur "Ban mwen pi lajan" and "Piti mwen malad" in the throes of passion.Charles. They just plain "murmur", eh? . Reminds me of "give us our daily bread", sotto voce! I was hoping for a lusty scream.
Marc Anthony
11-02-11, 05:24
They have been known to murmur "Ban mwen pi lajan" and "Piti mwen malad" in the throes of passion.ROTFL. Are you really that good?
The other is "I'm feeling a little sick".
Immodium, pepto bismol and others can be bought over the counter (no prescription) before any trip, to help with an upset stomach.
La Vega and Bonao are adjacent to the highway between Santiago and Santo Domingo. La Vega is about a 15-20 minute drive south of Santiago. Some people who live in La Vega study or work in Santiago, there is low cost transportation between La Vega and Santiago. If you are in Santo Domingo, Vegano Express operates buses that go back forth and between La Vega and Santo Domingo.
Bonao is about one hour from Santo Domingo (depending on Santo Domingo traffic). Bonao is about an hour south of Santiago.
This site list 7 hotels in Bonao:
http://www.hotel-dominican-republic.net/
And 9 hotels in La Vega.
Good reports, thanks.Yes, I will definitely carry pepto / dulcolax and Immodium my next trip. I was telling Jao about how I got sick at Boca Chica last time most likely from the Sancocho I had early one morning after drinking all night. The damn thing tasted so good, its kind of a seafood combo hot soup served with white rice. Also the previous day I had the fresh caught squid, octopus etc the guys sell on the beach with salsa on the side, dunno what got me. There are no hospitals in Boca Chica except for the welfare one which you have to be at 7am or earlier to pick a number and wait all day. I heard the numbers are all gone by 7am. Or you can head to the Capital for a private hospital.
Yes, I will definitely carry pepto / dulcolax and Immodium my next trip. I was telling Jao about how I got sick at Boca Chica last time most likely from the Sancocho I had early one morning after drinking all night. The damn thing tasted so good, its kind of a seafood combo hot soup served with white rice. Also the previous day I had the fresh caught squid, octopus etc the guys sell on the beach with salsa on the side, dunno what got me. There are no hospitals in Boca Chica except for the welfare one which you have to be at 7am or earlier to pick a number and wait all day. I heard the numbers are all gone by 7am. Or you can head to the Capital for a private hospital.Numerous clinics in santo domingo that are open 24/7. Office visit 1000 to 2000 pesos. When I visited Sosua years ago, I can remember seeing signs for medical clinics saying they were open 24/7.
Lack of sleep, alcohol, traveling, heat, sex, eating food that may not have been stored properly, are all contributing factors that could mess up your stomach or your overall health.
LaPela ED pills give me terrible heart burn (acid reflux) , last trip I brought with me Prilosec pills (and stayed away from lapela and bought cialis).
MiamiHeatLuver
11-03-11, 17:49
Numerous clinics in santo domingo that are open 24/7. Office visit 1000 to 2000 pesos. When I visited Sosua years ago, I can remember seeing signs for medical clinics saying they were open 24/7.
Lack of sleep, alcohol, traveling, heat, sex, eating food that may not have been stored properly, are all contributing factors that could mess up your stomach or your overall health.
LaPela ED pills give me terrible heart burn (acid reflux) , last trip I brought with me Prilosec pills (and stayed away from lapela and bought cialis).You want to know how to TRY and avoid the Hershey Squirts in the DR? It can be very tough but try and avoid anything washed from the tap water (includes salads) , shit I even use the bottled water to brush my teeth.
Eat where you see the locals eating frequently. This should cut down the risk of getting bad food.
Try and get some home cooking (best bet) Nobody cooks better than some abuela who stays home all day. My friend motoconch driver's wife makes the best island food, on day one my boys and I chip in $20 each and we get a guaranteed fresh dinner daily!
Now inevitably when you do get the shits. Its the worst and keeps you shitting every 1/2 hr. Sucks. Drink fluids and plenty of pepto bismol x-tra strengt and imodium, Solid starches only like rice and potatoes and soup.
As far as the heartburn goes? There is no worse heartburn than a LA PELA / Rum all night combo. Damn does it burn and I learned years ago to bring the prilosec or tagament because that shit will not go away with whimpy tums or rolaids. I always thought I was getting this horrible heartburn because of the sugar in the rum I would drink all day and never thought it could have also been the LA PELA.
LaPela ED pills give me terrible heart burn (acid reflux) , last trip I brought with me Prilosec pills (and stayed away from lapela and bought cialis).The active ingredient is Tadalafil in both, I lowered the dosage which substantially less heartburn. 1/2 a Lapela gives me a little extra wood with minimal side effects.
Hillbilly69
11-03-11, 21:51
You want to know how to TRY and avoid the Hershey Squirts in the DR?I know the topic was covered on here couple years ago but Pepto doesn't work coating my stomach. I was blowing chunks out both ends on the plane coming home last 2 trips out and they nearly had to turn plane around because I was soo sick but I told them not to worry I will live, but threw up for days after getting home the last trip. I went to the extent of hunting down charcoal pills which I have but haven't returned to try them yet. Like a previous poster I always try to figure out what I ate that did this to me but never quite seem to figure it out.
MiamiHeatLuver
11-03-11, 22:49
I know the topic was covered on here couple years ago but Pepto doesn't work coating my stomach. I was blowing chunks out both ends on the plane coming home last 2 trips out and they nearly had to turn plane around because I was soo sick but I told them not to worry I will live, but threw up for days after getting home the last trip. I went to the extent of hunting down charcoal pills which I have but haven't returned to try them yet. Like a previous poster I always try to figure out what I ate that did this to me but never quite seem to figure it out.I fucked up twice, once was funny looking and tasting Dominican ham from Playero and the other was frying CHICHARRON from an open market where they just let the meat hang there. NEVER again. It can ruin a whole vacation trying to fuck and hold your ass at the same time to prevent an "accident"
Hillbilly69
11-03-11, 23:13
I fucked up twice, once was funny looking and tasting Dominican ham from Playero and the other was frying CHICHARRON from an open market where they just let the meat hang there. NEVER again. It can ruin a whole vacation trying to fuck and hold your ass at the same time to prevent an "accident"One guy I met down to Herman's had it running down his leg I told him get some Dominican Honey as one of you suggested. Saw him about an hour later and he was just fine as far as accidents.
My last rtip I had it coming out of both ends. Not pleasant but it was my last nite[
QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1213529]One guy I met down to Herman's had it running down his leg I told him get some Dominican Honey as one of you suggested. Saw him about an hour later and he was just fine as far as accidents.[/QUOTE]
One guy I met down to Herman's had it running down his leg I told him get some Dominican Honey as one of you suggested. Saw him about an hour later and he was just fine as far as accidents.Wet Ones Moist Towelettes with Aloe, Travel Pack can be good to have. Having diarrhea and wiping numerous times with paper tissue can get the skin irritated, wet ones much less irritating. Wet Ones can also be used to clean keep up after sex, in case the place has no water. Also good for cleaning beforehand, when you think the chica might lick ass.
My last rtip I had it coming out of both ends. Not pleasant but it was my last nite[
QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1213529]One guy I met down to Herman's had it running down his leg I told him get some Dominican Honey as one of you suggested. Saw him about an hour later and he was just fine as far as accidents.[/QUOTE]I have consumed many yogurts on a regular basis but increase my level of intake about 2 weeks before I arrive, since I started this I have NEVER had a problem no matter how much ron dorado o cerveza I drank. I don't even bring imodeam with me any more.
Mr Enternational
11-04-11, 19:06
Eat where you see the locals eating frequently. This should cut down the risk of getting bad food.This may not help him because the bodies of the locals will be accustomed to the bad bacteria whereas his body will not be and they (the bad bacteria, not the locals) will take over his system.
Mr Enternational
11-04-11, 19:15
I know the topic was covered on here couple years ago but Pepto doesn't work coating my stomach. I was blowing chunks out both ends on the plane coming home last 2 trips out and they nearly had to turn plane around because I was soo sick but I told them not to worry I will live, but threw up for days after getting home the last trip.In a case of the shits the best and quickest solution is Lactobacillus. It can be bought in the USA over the counter at most drug stores. Just go ask the pharmacist. And if he / she points you to the crap on the shelves tell them no. You want the one from the refrigerator. It costs about $58. There are maybe 10 packages in the box. The packages contain granules that you add to dairy (yogurt, cereal) to take. It will clear up in a day or so.
MiamiHeatLuver
11-04-11, 21:13
This may not help him because the bodies of the locals will be accustomed to the bad bacteria whereas his body will not be and they (the bad bacteria, not the locals) will take over his system.Maybe, Maybe Not, but then again most of the time I have a stomach like a steel trap BUT when I do get the shits, its bad news. One think that might give me some edge is that I'm used to "greasy spoons and street food" here in Miami to condition me. I think solid starchy foods is the way to go and you can't mess it up, Potatoes, Pasta, Rice, Soups
Rumored to arrest 30 to 50 chicas each night!
Rumored to arrest 30 to 50 chicas each night!The jazz festival is next weekend so that may have something to do with the crackdown.
The jazz festival is next weekend so that may have something to do with the crackdown.In the past the jazz festvals were in Cabarete. Just wondering how this would have anything to do with arrests in Sosua?
Grandnash84
11-04-11, 23:56
The jazz festival is next weekend so that may have something to do with the crackdown.Jazz festival? When? Where? Ill be in sosua next thrusday for a week, hopefully I can catch this so it would give me something to do besides cliff jumping and mongering
AlwaysHorny 2
11-05-11, 02:38
I'll be in the area Dec 6th. 11th. I'm renting some wheels this time and I'm going to venture out some and hopefully toss in a few fun safe adventures. Of course Sosua will get a look, but I want to see the landscape at a slow pace.
I plan to go to BB's on Saturday for the swimsuit contest. I've never visited the place before and I'm curious of the layout and chicas. I really can't see me lodging there. I like to hunt a little. To each his own.
I'm starting to get a little excited and happy for the brief escape. Once again it's on!
Ipanema Carioca
11-05-11, 05:47
Jazz festival? When? Where? Ill be in sosua next thrusday for a week, hopefully I can catch this so it would give me something to do besides cliff jumping and mongeringPlaya Cabarete. 9-13 Nov.
Hillbilly69
11-05-11, 10:45
Jazz festival? When? Where? Ill be in sosua next thrusday for a week, hopefully I can catch this so it would give me something to do besides cliff jumping and mongeringThe festival will start on Wednesday, November 9 at the 'Parque Mirador'. The next day, so on Thursday, November 10 the Festival continues at the amphitheater of the Casa Marina Resort.
http://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=2752&article=1
The festival will start on Wednesday, November 9 at the 'Parque Mirador'. The next day, so on Thursday, November 10 the Festival continues at the amphitheater of the Casa Marina Resort.
http://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=2752&article=1Wow! If anyone can attend, a report would be appreciated. But why wait until the week before the event to promote it. Anyway that would explain a Sosua chica crackdown.
LA Passions has a little bit of everything, tall short thick thin you name it.Passions has a yahoo group. They just uploaded 100 photos for November. Some pics from Passions yahoo group.
I am surprised the girls look young and fresh.
Passions has a yahoo group. They just uploaded 100 photos for November. Some pics from Passions yahoo group.
The festival will start on Wednesday, November 9 at the 'Parque Mirador'. The next day, so on Thursday, November 10 the Festival continues at the amphitheater of the Casa Marina Resort.
http://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=2752&article=1Here is the official website: http://drjazzfestival.com/online/
I've gone to the festival the last 3 years and its always a good time, some non-pro and semi-pro action available if you have some game. And if you're there during this time its a good excuse to get out and see Cabarete and enjoy more of the DR than just Sosua. Although I think this year is the first time Sosua has been involved in the Jazz Festival.
I'll be in the area Dec 6th. 11th. I'm renting some wheels this time and I'm going to venture out some and hopefully toss in a few fun safe adventures. Of course Sosua will get a look, but I want to see the landscape at a slow pace.
I plan to go to BB's on Saturday for the swimsuit contest. I've never visited the place before and I'm curious of the layout and chicas. I really can't see me lodging there. I like to hunt a little. To each his own.
I'm starting to get a little excited and happy for the brief escape. Once again it's on!It is good to rent a car. I have always rented a car and it gives freedom to go wherever you want and get non-pro action. I have picked up girls on the mountains road as well going from Sosua to Santiago maybe they are semi-pros. Once you get a keeper you can travel with her all over. Going to bikini contest at blackbeards is good. But it is just girls dancing around with resident drunk patrons making noise. I did not find it any interesting as I was not the least interested in brothel atmosphere. Even if I want to pick up a seasoned pro I want to do it at the bars and discoes. I have picked up semi pros and non pros (atleast that is what they said) and having a car gives me the freedom. Taking trips with a favourite is a plus.
It is good to rent a car. I have always rented a car and it gives freedom to go wherever you want and get non-pro action. I have picked up girls on the mountains road as well going from Sosua to Santiago maybe they are semi-pros. Once you get a keeper you can travel with her all over. Going to bikini contest at blackbeards is good. But it is just girls dancing around with resident drunk patrons making noise. I did not find it any interesting as I was not the least interested in brothel atmosphere. Even if I want to pick up a seasoned pro I want to do it at the bars and discoes. I have picked up semi pros and non pros (at least that is what they said) and having a car gives me the freedom. Taking trips with a favourite is a plus.Blowjob in the car while driving, or parked. The chica can do the ordering or buying at stops for fast food or at colmados. Chicas have shown me new places, while driving with me (beaches, bars etc).
Just get the third party insurance (glass and tire insurance cam be good to have also) and try to be patient with DR law enforcement who have nothing better to do, than waste the time of law abiding tourists driving rental cars.
Burn CDs to play on the rental car's CD player. Polarized sunglasses to see better while driving in the sun.
I read the tolls to travel on some roads to Samana are expensive.
"Las Terrenas, Dominican Republic. Various social and business groups in Las Terrenas, northeastern Samana province, Wednesday rejected the new toll in the recently inaugurated Tourist Boulevard of the Atlantic, of 450 pesos for light vehicles. 920 pesos for midsize buses. 1,200 pesos for large buses and twin axel trucks and 1, 700 for trucks with more than two axels. They said the cheapest roundtrip on the 24 kilometer span will be 900 pesos, and 3, 400 pesos the most expensive. With the new toll, normal vehicles will have to pay as much as 3, 500 pesos roundtrip to visit Las Terrenas' new seaside road, including the 124 kilometer span of the Samana-Santo Domingo highway." http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/tourism/2011/11/3/41514/Beach-town-says-scenic-route-toll-too-steep
Charles Pooter
11-06-11, 06:11
I am surprised the girls look young and fresh.There is a high turnover rate. Many leave after a week or two, and one or two have been working there for years or have come back, but I guess the average tour of duty is about six months?
AlwaysHorny 2
11-06-11, 17:15
Jao,
Now I'm really excited about renting a car! LOL.
Originally, I was renting a car to drive solo between Cabarete and Puerto Plata and scope out the landscape and maybe find some off the beaten path experiences, but now I'm thinking about hooking up with a Chica to be my daytime guide.
My Spanish is improving, but far from the point where I can really put my mack down or communicate effortlessly. I figure having a Chica as a guide would be helpful as a translator and she might be able to show me sights that I would have missed.
It would be nice to find a somewhat secluded beach and make the day of it. Personality / attitude is most important because having sex with the Chica is not paramount. Unless the attraction is that strong.
Being close to Christmas, I also plan on hitting up that Walmart type store and buy some small gifts to pass out in one of the barrio's to the children. I won't miss that couple hundred plus a genuine smile of appreciation from a kid is priceless!
With all that said, of course I'm coming to fuck the shit out of some fine young pussy, but I want to use my daytime to give me more insight into Dominican life / landscape. I got a small taste my last trip and now I hunger for more.
Charles Pooter
11-06-11, 19:38
Now I'm really excited about renting a car!Make sure your insurance includes access to the Casa del Conductor (most don't). This means if you are involved in an accident you will be taken to a sort of hotel with basic comforts instead of being slung in jail until is it sorted out (which could take days or weeks). Even if you are totally blameless you will probably be willing to pay big bucks to get of of jail before something nasty happens to you or you catch something which will mess up your holiday or much more of your life.
I always recommend guys who don't speak good Spanish and haven't got influential contacts or an honest lawyer there not To rent cars but if you insist on going ahead at least follow the above advice.
Make sure your insurance includes access to the Casa del Conductor (most don't). This means if you are involved in an accident you will be taken to a sort of hotel with basic comforts instead of being slung in jail until is it sorted out (which could take days or weeks). Even if you are totally blameless you will probably be willing to pay big bucks to get of of jail before something nasty happens to you or you catch something which will mess up your holiday or much more of your life.
I always recommend guys who don't speak good Spanish and haven't got influential contacts or an honest lawyer there not To rent cars but if you insist on going ahead at least follow the above advice.I have been using Alamo (partners with National) , use a discount code from BJs Wharehouse Store travel site (http://travel.bjs.com/car-rentals/) , some discount codes only work in the US and Canada (make reservations online at least 24 hours before pickup and bring a copy of the reservation with the Rental Price $). Discount codes that work in DR will say good for Latin America (the one free day code on BJs, usually saves me about $50US). On the Alamo site you can choose third party liability (if there is an accident with injuries) for about $8US per day. Tire and Glass coverage you can choose for about $3US per day. Collision / Damage loss waiver insurance I decline, I pay for the rental using a Mastercard credit card and they provide coverage up to $50, 000US, if there is a total loss of the vehicle. The third party liability insurance provided by alamo appears to include casa de conductors coverage (I have been told several times by workers at Alamo, that with that insurance I would not be put into a jail following an accident).
Alamo has an office at the Puerto Plata Airport and I believe another office at Ocean World or close to Ocean World, Cofresi, Puerto Plata.
Driving between Sosua and Puerto Plata, years ago at night, one time a horse was standing in the middle of road. Same thing happened on the new highway to samana, horse on the road one night.
Traveler04
11-06-11, 21:07
Charles is passing on good advice about insurance for your car rental. I have rented 10+ times but did not start doing that until I had 4-5 trips under my belt as driving on the North Coast is an experience.
Gifts for the holidays. I used to spend a lot of money on various gifts and bring all kinds of stuff. Recently I brought less stuff with me from the states. When I arrive I have bought cell cards for min. Right off the street in 100 peso incriments and given them out as gifts. They are sold everywhere. Saves on the luggage and the girls are always using their phone and running out of min.
Other gifts that were big hits:
1. Panties from Victoria Secret. Go to their web site and look for closeouts. You can find some amazing deals. I bought various sizes and styles for $3. 00 each.
2. Bath and Body Works. If you can find one in your area (also online) have amazing lip gloss. The girls love them. You can also find a variety of lotions etc.
3. Perfume. This time of year you can buy some gifts sets that are nice and smaller so they are not a expensive. More like sample sizes.
4. Blow pops / Gum. It is hard to find to many women in the DR that do not have one or more children. These are a big hit.
In the room I have found it very nice to give them a plastic shower cap. The girls hate to get their hair wet.
The cost is $1. 00 each if you look at Walmart.
Just some ideas.
Excellent suggestions Monger on my brother. One very good option I saw today is the dollar store lotions and shampoos and various things at bargain prices[
QUOTE=Traveler04; 1214477]Charles is passing on good advice about insurance for your car rental. I have rented 10+ times but did not start doing that until I had 4-5 trips under my belt as driving on the North Coast is an experience.
Gifts for the holidays. I used to spend a lot of money on various gifts and bring all kinds of stuff. Recently I brought less stuff with me from the states. When I arrive I have bought cell cards for min. Right off the street in 100 peso incriments and given them out as gifts. They are sold everywhere. Saves on the luggage and the girls are always using their phone and running out of min.
Other gifts that were big hits:
1. Panties from Victoria Secret. Go to their web site and look for closeouts. You can find some amazing deals. I bought various sizes and styles for $3. 00 each.
2. Bath and Body Works. If you can find one in your area (also online) have amazing lip gloss. The girls love them. You can also find a variety of lotions etc.
3. Perfume. This time of year you can buy some gifts sets that are nice and smaller so they are not a expensive. More like sample sizes.
4. Blow pops / Gum. It is hard to find to many women in the DR that do not have one or more children. These are a big hit.
In the room I have found it very nice to give them a plastic shower cap. The girls hate to get their hair wet.
The cost is $1. 00 each if you look at Walmart.
Just some ideas.[/QUOTE]
Marc Anthony
11-07-11, 01:36
Make sure your insurance includes access to the Casa del Conductor (most don't). This means if you are involved in an accident you will be taken to a sort of hotel with basic comforts instead of being slung in jail until is it sorted out (which could take days or weeks). Even if you are totally blameless you will probably be willing to pay big bucks to get of of jail before something nasty happens to you or you catch something which will mess up your holiday or much more of your life.
I always recommend guys who don't speak good Spanish and haven't got influential contacts or an honest lawyer there not To rent cars but if you insist on going ahead at least follow the above advice.I have heard enough horror stories online and in person to understand your point. Do any rental company insurances include this coverage? The casa de C I heard of was in SD, is there also one in Santiago or the north coast or do you just share the bucket with your 35 new best friends?
Speaking good Spanish, finding a honest lawyer and a few influential contacts has always been on my todo list but I haven't gotten there yet. Any expat tips on these last three? How would you go about getting a few contacts with police generals that would answer their cell in an emergency? Or perhaps elected officials? I suppose decent Spanish comes first. I'd always pictured getting invites to the right parties and offering appropriate services gratis rather than something crude. Like offering to have oil paintings done of the general and his wife or free telcom marketing services to a political candidate. Or is it just an envelope with a cash token of appreciation for their heroic years public service?
I was with someone years ago who got stopped in Puerto Plata (I don't remember which flavor of police) and just dialed a police general contact and handed the cop his cell phone. The cop apologized profusely and couldn't wait to take off. The guy actually stopped him and made him sweat a little asking him a few questions before letting him go. Ever since I have seen the value of having the appropriate phone number but never did much work toward it because I haven't been there enough.
Charles Pooter
11-07-11, 01:50
In the room I have found it very nice to give them a plastic shower cap. The girls hate to get their hair wet. The cost is $1.00 each if you look at Walmart.I bought a stack of them for 12 pesos (less than 35c) so each chica has a new one. They appreciated that. Not the most sexy garment though.
Marc Anthony
11-07-11, 01:53
Thanks Old Kool and traveler04 for tips on small regalos / propinas. Always useful.
I think panties, lipstick, perfume, always go over well. My latest guess is ghetto fashion jewelry from beauty supply shops in the hood. It's currently surprisingly big and intricate like something out of the ancient world (and super cheap. A couple bucks each). Necklaces, earrings, bracelets. They pack into tiny zip lock bags but are quite large and intricate when put on. I bet US ghetto fashion will be DR barrio fashion.
I'm interested if anyone has any feedback how well Chinese android phones and tablets are doing in the DR. Are you seeing chicas flaunting their fake iphones and ipads?
SavePros321
11-07-11, 01:58
fellas, let us not forget that very important trip report dw1987 left us about the nightmare you can end up in if you choose to rent a car. this is his post verbatim. the original link to the post is here:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?504-puerto-plata&p=1018934&viewfull=1#post1018934
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car accident went to jail
by dw1987
i rented a car from adventure rent a car adventuererrentcar. com in puerto plata airport the agent there is jason maloon. owner i guess is gipsy harold a woman. i got good airfare rate so upgraded to honda suv because last two trips i rented same car and ac didn't work and windshield wiper on drivers side was worn and spray did not work so you drive down road at night with smeared glass. i can't take the heat so i need working ac. i get there no problems pay in cash get receipt for cash because i didn't get one last time. i rent from gypsy because a friend of mine james recommended them after car problems.
nice truck honda element black looked customized even weyland said nice truck. anyway me and my wingman were driving on malecon in pop heading towards lasirena we had just ate there and i had a coke which is unusual for me but its really hot there that friday. two girls were at a beach bar waiting for us but i didn't see them i was driving don't need extra distractions. i need to turn around so cars coming i am waiting to clear i am right on yellow line waiting for oncoming traffic noone on my right no one on the road that direction. road clears turn left and smash a motoconcho hits the truck. my "friend" screams like a 10 year old school girl. i immediately get out of truck to check on victims they got hit pretty hard. i thought they were dead the girls head had a lump but no major blood anywhere. i was very concerned for them even though they were speeding like hell and passed me on wrong side of road they were hurt. a crowd soon gathered some asked me what happened i calmly explained. i looked for my "friend" and he is nowhere to be found no where. a bystander called police with cell phone and jason maloon the representative of adventure rental car. i ask numerous people where is my "friend" noone knows. believe me i looked hard i had nothing else to do but i did not leave scene of accident. the victims dissapeared also along with the victims motorcycle. one guy says my "friend" went to hospital with victims. i thought that was quite humble of him. police show up 45 minutes after accident so its 1:30 pm or so. my "friend " reappears he looks like he was crying and scared. get into car to go to police station near harbor while getting in car jason from adventure finally shows up. on way to police station my "friend" explains he don't like blood that is why he left. i knew better he ran away like a scared little school girl after he screamed. get to station wait there jason says i take care of you i will take care everything. victims family shows up they look a little mad but relize i am concerned too. i don't talk much and remain calm. the family understands it was accident i certainly didn't see them on my left large blind spot in that suv. jason says don'why worry i am here i will take care of you whole thing will be couple hundred dollars. he says don't tell anyone but you have 8000 pesos i will pay police chief and you will be ok. i don't have that much on me so i ask my "friend" for 1000 pesos more. we wait for long time 2 hours for paperwork and such so i think be all over after paying money. my "friend" starts whining like a little girl "i want to go to herman's for a chica i don't see why i should be stuck waiting for you its like when people are dying in hospital i am not going to spend a month next to their bed what do i have to do with this your fault your fault! then he says yea i saw that motorcyle on your left but don't worry i won't say anything " like he is doing me some kind of favor? i wanted to * slap him. he is a i already told police what happened. i say i need you here i do not know how this is going to turn out i may get throw in jail and you will be only one on planet who knows where i am. he says" no no jason is good guy he will take care of you you don't need me. ain't my fault ain't my fault you should have seen him you were driving. i paid for rental car all gas and his hotel room and he is my wingman "friend' you would think the ungrateful fucker would wait for me after running off leaving me for lynch mob and after all you never ever leave your wingman ever in a vulnerable place. i finally say ok cause i think i am ready to kick his ass anyway. i asked jason is "friend" use car and go to hotel for passport and credit card. i already gave him my room key digital camera i tell him get my stuff come back and you can go. he leaves jason says oh have to go to judge for trial right now going to take more money for hospital. i call my "friend" on telephone empty my hotel room of all my belongings in case they decide take my things and get my money, debit card and passport but don't give to anyone for any reason he said ok.
i get to the other police station down by park and get into station and meet adventure's attorney respresenting me. the deductable is 3000 us deductable but i think he should get paid by them but quite frankly i am getting bad feeling about this just trying to think ahead of them. attorney said "no problem" i am respresenting you i am for you.
the entrance to police station is where is desk 3 cops one cop instructs me step behind door it is a prison cell with women in there. i ask attorney what is going on? he say no problem its just for minute. cop points at shoes and argue swith me about something attorney says take off shoe laces. ding ding ding light goes off in my head i am going to jail! never been jail before and that is unusual for my area and michigan child support domestic violence laws. i call my "friend" and said listen i am going to jail phone gets quiet i say are you there? you joking? no. i am going to jail. at this time i am thinking thanks for leaving me assole. i tell him" my life is in your hands" who is going to have your phone jason the adventure rental agent with my money 100 us dollars some pesos and i count it. i hear some screaming as taking shoe laces and look over and see 20 men most all naked with their penisis exposed hollering gringo gringo. i almost flicked them off and asked if they wanted to fight but didn't. 10 seconds later i am in cell with them. honestly wasn't scared but was hot as hell don't know temperature but hottest ever been in my life lets just give it 100 degrees and humidity to match even dominicans didn't have clothes on and were panting. in i go i figure i can knock out 2 or 3 of them but not 20 so better stay calm. into cell all the way to back its body to body they swarm to me the uglier looking ones tried to intimidate me said don't be scared i wasn't scared the heat was fucking unbearable. i told them not scared just hot two 3 them put hands on my cargo shorts and fondle my pockets a little ask have money i said no police robb me. kept hands to themselves then ask why i am in jail i respond no idea. i tell them soy innocente they all say almost in sequence tambien. i am innocent they say me too and laugh. end of intimidation try then start asking me where i am from i say canada just to lie a little. heat is unbearable hooldlem they are they don't deserve those conditions.
the cell is 10 x 10 i couldn't count blocks because this is too old for that it is also 10 feet high with small barred window 8 feet up or so. one wall for bath but its a plastic pail to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) in and then you dump it in a two inch hole wick is a toilet that is covers with someones clothes to keep stink out must be. toilet in like concrete 5 gallon bucket but to only has 2 inch hole i guess it goes down to hole in ground no water of course. no water in cell whatsover and i already needed something drink. i try to get message to rental car guy i can't take this heat they don't care.
30 minutes pass by i go one side of cell to other trying to find coolest place but quite frankly its body to body. near the jail cell door is best temperature but is still unbearable all guys lay or sit naked aginst floor and wall try stay cool. i get stand by door for a while but one guy wants his place back. another 30 minutes or so goes by they want to talk to me. jason the adventure respresentative with great big smiles ask me if i am rich? i say no and they are trying to c. i say no tengo muchas dinero and keep really sad face. they say hospital bills and such will be 5000 dollars the girl lived had leg broke in two places and pinned. i still say don't have. i get talk to prosecutor a lite skinned dominican can't say she was very friendly. she says need 5000 dollars or have to sit in jail till trial in 6 months. i ask why insurance don't pay is 300 deductable but says don't cover medical bills. ask is i have family to send money i say i don't which is true nothing. i call billy i am not sure at this point i said i am in jail he says what for acccident someone killed no. i said billy you know someone to get me out of here you have 3 police on cell he says not much i can do for you i don't have any money or know anyone but send you my lawyer i said no adventure has one for me. (big mistake) i ask billy doesn't alberto owner of field of dreams know head of police or something the one he just put up there he said no no. i said i made need you call alberto for me may need money i said have money in debit card but hard to do when i am in jail. billy said no problem lasirena has bank open till 8 he said got money out on credit card there before. i say ok but you call alberto just in case i can't take this heat 120 degrees with 20 naked hoodlems. cell phone ended told prosecutor what if few hundred dollars let me out get difference later. nope she is resposible for family medical bills. back to jail cell i go. i told jason adventure agent to give directions to my "friend' to get there. i also told them might be possible to get money but have to be out of jail.
my friend arrives with my passport anddebit card they agree to take me to lasirena. two police officers get into car with me and my friend. i managed to think ahead of time not to give them access to my passport or debit card room. good thing they didn't have my room key they would have had field day with my stuff. get to lasirena all banks are closed i call billy i need alberto he says you call him. i say shit don't even know him never talked to him before. he texted me albertos number and i needed phone from attorney to call alberto jason says how you know him? i don't only a friends friend but he is only one i know come up with 5500 cash at 730pm. alberto calls me hello, i am xxxxxx he don't me either but billy worked the other end. alberto was polite and blunt right to point just like me. i need loan get out i can't take the heat i will be dead. alberto said see what he can do. price went up in 5 minutes jason knows alberto see whats going on? i tell alberto 5500 and nothing more he agrees. phone call comes in its alberto check is at cabana of his and prosecutor agrees to his check. so i get 5500 dollars from guy never met before and i think i am free. my friend is going on and on about how i need th "grease the palms" of the rental car guy. i am thinking to myself just shut the fuck up. i go back directly to jail manage to get debit card to friend before get back into cell and my passport at least i can think ahead of them a little. into jail cell i go no notice of how long i am going in nothing. half hour passes or so they holler i get out prosecutor says i am free i holler at my friend to come and look at this jail cell and look what this is all about fuck no i think he peed his pants. i am waiting for some kind of papers to be signed. i walk outside prosecutor woman who was none to friendly says i am free to leave country. i ask her couple questions about do i get some paperwork? i don't need to get arrested on arrival without a appparent releases from familly of accident victim. i know at least alberto has a check stub. prosecutor is a little petite woman 85 90 lbs jason from adventure is 5 foot 9 i guess 215 lbs maybe hell i don't know but isn't intimidating for me but i know he is on steroids. the woman prosecutor says free to go home. my attorney and jason from adventure say final papers from family need to get signed tomarrow need 1400 dollars more. as the prosecutor is speaking jason is 2 feet away from her over my shoulder i spent alot of money i need reciept for something. turn back around prosecutor is gone its 9m it late she isn't very nice to begin with. get across sidewalk to get back home and attorney and jason say need 400 dollars for prosectutor to pay i say no tengo i don't have. jason and attorney for adventure are talking my "friend pulls out my big wadd of cash and flashes it around like he just found it on sidewalk. the eyes of jason and attorney got big i almost knocked him on his ass right then i told him back in pocket. had to give them 400 dollars to prosecutor before i could go. i don't know who had my cell phone. attorney leaft with my 400 dollars i get into jasons suv i look through my stuff 100 dollars is missing from money i gave jason thieving bastard i gave it to him directly. my friend is saying on oand on i need to grease the palms of jason for doing suck a good job. thanks for being director of gifts assole i am thinking. get in car and cell phone not in bag i forgot to mention jason and attorney for adventure tried taking my passport before i left jail didn't have hands on it once i kept giving back to my friend to keep. the other attorney had my phone by plan i think. on way back to sosua finally got my phone i wasn't leaving without it.
on way back sosua jason tells me better not leave country he has friend in new york who is a cop and he will 'hurt me'. if i would have had enough water in me i would have peed my pants! don't know me very well i said. he said better not leave country till i get my money. i said if i want to leave i will get on spirit flight at 3 am and be gone. remember tomarrow supposed to meet family and get my "release papers" next day i need to outthink what is going on but find it difficult but i need to leave stuff with friend. next morning jason is going to give me ride to puerto plata for final 'paperwork' i want to get my friend don to drive me so they don't hold me "hostage' again. jason picks me up says bring 'everything' i say what for only need the money. i only bring passport i smell something fishy. get to puerto plata and only drive around and around i call billy he says need to settle the car with gypsy. i ask what i am waiting for he says don't want me to meet with family they are mad. weren't mad yesterday. i need my papers. they say need copy of passport i say go up to billys i can get copy. attorney takes my passport (big mistake) they go into colmida across from billy's andget a copy. they call me into there say its 5000 dollars more. i say no they start laughing. only 1000 they say. i give money to attorney paperwork is getting signed now had it 10 minutes. get into suv with jason and jason goes back into colmida real quick ding ding ding i turn around it truck the go into room together split my money. i asked when paperwork oh later. we need go to airport pay for car damage. i get to airport he says have credit card with you? nope! i knew what he was going to do i said i must have lost it i lied it was in room with friend. i said you have my credit card on hold in there need reciept. then i told him i need to call gypsy and get some answers i spent alot of money and got nothing not a receipt for anything i want some answers. jason through a complete fit. i said need talk gypsy account for what 7500 dollars before i pay for damage. he calls her first and tries to blame billy for the whole thing i say no is alot of money and i want answers. gypsy calls me jason is right next to me si i can't tell her what i just saw 10 minutes before hes holding me hostage and quite frankly. i just want tell gypsy i think i need credit for car didn't have never considered paying for attorney also. she says knows one friends i say me too know him very well we will settle up on monday when i leave so lets count 8000 pesos first jason bribe 100 dollars he stole out of my belongings and 400 dollars and 1000 dollars he just got and i still have no papers or reciepts. i get ride back to hotel jason says pick me up monday at noon. i get to room to get belongings from "friend" and get my things alot of drama last couple days so things are tense i get my stuff i have yet to tell him what i think of him. his phone rings its jason says need pick me up early to go to see alberto and pay loan i tell him none your fucking buisness hang up phone. i forgot to mention my "friend" threw a sissy fit when he handed me phone for me. i managed to figure out i never am getting any paperwork jason extorted the 2000 dollars from me and its time for him to pay. i bought other ticket cost 400 dollars and left through santiago this morning. why when it was only 600 dollars to settle? i needed to teach jason lesson. one my friends actually called owner to question jason about the nearly 8k and jason says i was drunk that it why. never had beer all day. they never even checked i had a coke 10 minutes before. jason is already lying back to gypsy but its not going to work i am still pissed jason extorted 2000 dollars from me and i needed to teach him lesson on rental and unfortuneately get gypsy in middle.
Marc Anthony
11-07-11, 02:03
I bought a stack of them for 12 pesos (less than 35c) so each chica has a new one. They appreciated that. Not the most sexy garment though.My nomination for best picture with a report for 2011. Why don't we have awards?
I have heard enough horror stories online and in person to understand your point. Do any rental company insurances include this coverage? The casa de C I heard of was in SD, is there also one in Santiago or the north coast or do you just share the bucket with your 35 new best friends?
Speaking good Spanish, finding a honest lawyer and a few influential contacts has always been on my todo list but I haven't gotten there yet. Any expat tips on these last three? How would you go about getting a few contacts with police generals that would answer their cell in an emergency? Or perhaps elected officials? I suppose decent Spanish comes first. I'd always pictured getting invites to the right parties and offering appropriate services gratis rather than something crude. Like offering to have oil paintings done of the general and his wife or free telcom marketing services to a political candidate. Or is it just an envelope with a cash token of appreciation for their heroic years public service?
I was with someone years ago who got stopped in Puerto Plata (I don't remember which flavor of police) and just dialed a police general contact and handed the cop his cell phone. The cop apologized profusely and couldn't wait to take off. The guy actually stopped him and made him sweat a little asking him a few questions before letting him go. Ever since I have seen the value of having the appropriate phone number but never did much work toward it because I haven't been there enough.Http://www.universal.com.do/Inicio/Servicios/Casa_Conductor, Universal Insurance in DR offers the services of casa del conductor. I am fairly certain, insurance with Alamo includes casa del conductor (I always pay the $8US per day for the third party liability insurance that Alamo offers).
Location of Casa del Conductor in Santiago, Calle 16 de Agosto No. 3, Tel. 809-241-4848.
Knowing someone in the policia nacional and having their cell number stored in your cell, to call is useful. I was in Santiago one night, I pulled over to the curb and put the car in park, to make a phone call. Two Policia Nacional on a motorcycle pulled up beside me and started with the questioning. I called a friend who used to be in the PN, and passed my cell to one of the PN that was questioning me. After speaking with my friend, the two PN were very nice to me. I got one of them to give me his cell number so if I got pulled over again later that night, I would call him rather than bother my friend in santo domingo again. Many of the policia nacional and / or politur guys know each other.
I have been stopped at 2am, and at 5am (in santo domingo) , so at those late hours, I don't want to call my friend. Sometimes it easier to just give the PN some pesos, rather than argue with them.
On the North Coast I was never stopped by the Police. Only one time in Santiago. In Santo Domingo over 20 times.
Always have your driving license from the states, canada or europe, on your person whenever you drive in DR.
MiamiHeatLuver
11-07-11, 02:24
I bought a stack of them for 12 pesos (less than 35c) so each chica has a new one. They appreciated that. Not the most sexy garment though.I actually prefer a chicha who can wash their hair on a regular. To get some of that motoconcho smoke stink out of their hair. Je je LOL
Marc Anthony
11-07-11, 02:25
Reproducing it in full when people are talking about how much fun it is to rent a car is a service. Yah know all those conchos whizzing around? What happens if through no fault your own one of them smashes into you?
Marc Anthony
11-07-11, 02:37
I bought a stack of them for 12 pesos (less than 35c) so each chica has a new one. They appreciated that. Not the most sexy garment though.Though anytime when you've got 10 chicas lined up quantity trumps sexy garments.
Charles Pooter
11-07-11, 02:39
Reproducing it in full when people are talking about how much fun it is to rent a car is a service. Yah know all those conchos whizzing around? What happens if through no fault your own one of them smashes into you?Wouldbe drivers need to understand that if there is an accident it is usually not the person at fault who pays but the person who has the most money or the most to lose. For that reason there is a common scam in which a Dominican driving some worthless old heap will deliberately collide with a gringo in a nice car and then claim damages. He has nothing to lose. The gringo has plenty to lose. The police will normally side with their own compatriots unless the gringo has influential friends.
There are guys here who have driven rentals for thirty holidays in the DR with not the slightest problem. It is your choice but be aware of the issues before you decide.
Charles Pooter
11-07-11, 02:40
Though anytime when you've got 10 chicas lined up quantity trumps sexy garments.It was my birthday party and there were more than ten. Though only ten in this pic as well.
I bought a stack of them for 12 pesos (less than 35c) so each chica has a new one. They appreciated that. Not the most sexy garment though.From surgery to being in the pool with nine Haitianas, in three months? What do you put in that tea?
Marc Anthony
11-07-11, 02:59
It was my birthday party and there were more than ten. Though only ten in this pic as well.But enough of an exercise in sexual geometry to challenge the most mathematically gifted monger among us. A very suitable birthday selection. Tells me yah don't have to go to Haiti for Haitianas.
Tell us more about the celebration. Where? Did you just put out he word and they will come?
Charles Pooter
11-07-11, 03:15
Tell us more about the celebration. Where? Did you just put out the word and they will come?It was May 2010 at Harbor View. (This year my birthday fell soon after my operation so I wasn't in a festive mood). I printed out invitations to 20 haitianas selected not on the basis of looks but for trustworthiness. Three didn't turn up but those that did behaved themselves. It was the guys I invited who let me down somewhat. Instead of mixing with the chicas most of them just drank beer and skulked round the periphery talking about those quaint North American minority sports. I had to entertain 17 haitianas myself almost single-handed. It's a tough life when you turn 70.
I actually prefer a chicha who can wash their hair on a regular. To get some of that motoconcho smoke stink out of their hair. Je je LOLAnd I hate it when the chicas use your hair brush. They have all this tangled and unkempt hair that gets stuck in the brush. Now I know why? They don't wash their hair. They do spend some money getting it done and as cheap as they are they probably want to keep it untouched as long as they can.
Marc Anthony
11-07-11, 03:28
It was May 2010 at Harbor View.17 out of 20 ain't bad. I guess Billy Lane is still hanging in there at Harbor View. There are guys who's 70th birthday party has worse issues than how to satisfy 17 slender young ti fi's.
Fellas, let us not forget that very important trip report Dw1987 Left us about the nightmare you can end up in if you choose to rent a car. This is his post verbatim. The original link to the post is here:Thanks for the post. I rented from Jason about 3 times in the last 5 years and never had a problem. I have a friend who got into an accident with a moto on the passenger side and simply cursed the guy out and drove off. He was pissed when he returned the car and had to pay a fee for the damage, since we would never get insurance.
Hey guys. Used to be a DR regular, haven't been back for years though. Been focusing on other regions. I was there so long ago that I hadn't know the fine art of face fucking. So my question to you all is whether or not you've find a lot of chicas that can take a good face fuck.
Coolie High
11-07-11, 13:03
It was my birthday party and there were more than ten. Though only ten in this pic as well.Sir Charles forgive me for being slow but do you go by another name Weyland on another forum. Ooh and please tell me that you smashed all ten honeys that was in the pic.
Member #4491
11-07-11, 14:58
Fellas, let us not forget that very important trip report Dw1987 Left us about the nightmare you can end up in if you choose to rent a car. This is his post verbatim. The original link to the post is here:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?504-Puerto-Plata&p=1018934&viewfull=1#post1018934Useless way to spend a vacation. I rarely go anywhere without a business reason, so there is a natural presence of at least one number to a local lawyer in my phone book. In case of a situation, I would immediately call or text the agreed legal representative for immediate assistance.
A template SMS in your draft box: "Hello, this is YOUR_NAME from YOUR_COMPANY. I have just been arrested and need immediate legal advice, including Your personal presence." And so on. Call me paranoid, but better safe than sorry. Just do not press SEND as a practical joke 3 AM when you are pissed on cheap beer.
B.
Manizales911
11-07-11, 15:22
fellas, let us not forget that very important trip report dw1987 left us about the nightmare you can end up in if you choose to rent a car. this is his post verbatim. the original link to the post is here:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?504-puerto-plata&p=1018934&viewfull=1#post1018934
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car accident went to jail
by dw1987.
i rented a car from adventure rent a car adventuererrentcar. com in puerto plata airport the agent there is jason maloon. owner i guess is gipsy harold a woman. i got good airfare rate so upgraded to honda suv because last two trips i rented same car and ac didn't work and windshield wiper on drivers side was worn and spray did not work so you drive down road at night with smeared glass. i can't take the heat so i need working ac. i get there no problems pay in cash get receipt for cash because i didn't get one last time. i rent from gypsy because a friend of mine james recommended them after car problems.
nice truck honda element black looked customized even weyland said nice truck. anyway me and my wingman were driving on malecon in pop heading towards lasirena we had just ate there and i had a coke which is unusual for me but its really hot there that friday. two girls were at a beach bar waiting for us but i didn't see them i was driving don't need extra distractions. i need to turn around so cars coming i am waiting to clear i am right on yellow line waiting for oncoming traffic noone on my right no one on the road that direction. road clears turn left and smash a motoconcho hits the truck. my "friend" screams like a 10 year old school girl. i immediately get out of truck to check on victims they got hit pretty hard. i thought they were dead the girls head had a lump but no major blood anywhere. i was very concerned for them even though they were speeding like hell and passed me on wrong side of road they were hurt. a crowd soon gathered some asked me what happened i calmly explained. i looked for my "friend" and he is nowhere to be found no where. a bystander called police with cell phone and jason maloon the representative of adventure rental car. i ask numerous people where is my "friend" noone knows. believe me i looked hard i had nothing else to do but i did not leave scene of accident. the victims dissapeared also along with the victims motorcycle. one guy says my "friend" went to hospital with victims. i thought that was quite humble of him. police show up 45 minutes after accident so its 1:30 pm or so. my "friend " reappears he looks like he was crying and scared. get into car to go to police station near harbor while getting in car jason from adventure finally shows up. on way to police station my "friend" explains he don't like blood that is why he left. i knew better he ran away like a scared little school girl after he screamed. get to station wait there jason says i take care of you i will take care everything. victims family shows up they look a little mad but relize i am concerned too. i don't talk much and remain calm. the family understands it was accident i certainly didn't see them on my left large blind spot in that suv. jason says don'why worry i am here i will take care of you whole thing will be couple hundred dollars. he says don't tell anyone but you have 8000 pesos i will pay police chief and you will be ok. i don't have that much on me so i ask my "friend" for 1000 pesos more. we wait for long time 2 hours for paperwork and such so i think be all over after paying money. my "friend" starts whining like a little girl "i want to go to herman's for a chica i don't see why i should be stuck waiting for you its like when people are dying in hospital i am not going to spend a month next to their bed what do i have to do with this your fault your fault! then he says yea i saw that motorcyle on your left but don't worry i won't say anything " like he is doing me some kind of favor? i wanted to * slap him. he is a i already told police what happened. i say i need you here i do not know how this is going to turn out i may get throw in jail and you will be only one on planet who knows where i am. he says" no no jason is good guy he will take care of you you don't need me. ain't my fault ain't my fault you should have seen him you were driving. i paid for rental car all gas and his hotel room and he is my wingman "friend' you would think the ungrateful fucker would wait for me after running off leaving me for lynch mob and after all you never ever leave your wingman ever in a vulnerable place. i finally say ok cause i think i am ready to kick his ass anyway. i asked jason is "friend" use car and go to hotel for passport and credit card. i already gave him my room key digital camera i tell him get my stuff come back and you can go. he leaves jason says oh have to go to judge for trial right now going to take more money for hospital. i call my "friend" on telephone empty my hotel room of all my belongings in case they decide take my things and get my money, debit card and passport but don't give to anyone for any reason he said ok.
i get to the other police station down by park and get into station and meet adventure's attorney respresenting me. the deductable is 3000 us deductable but i think he should get paid by them but quite frankly i am getting bad feeling about this just trying to think ahead of them. attorney said "no problem" i am respresenting you i am for you.
the entrance to police station is where is desk 3 cops one cop instructs me step behind door it is a prison cell with women in there. i ask attorney what is going on? he say no problem its just for minute. cop points at shoes and argue swith me about something attorney says take off shoe laces. ding ding ding light goes off in my head i am going to jail! never been jail before and that is unusual for my area and michigan child support domestic violence laws. i call my "friend" and said listen i am going to jail phone gets quiet i say are you there? you joking? no. i am going to jail. at this time i am thinking thanks for leaving me assole. i tell him" my life is in your hands" who is going to have your phone jason the adventure rental agent with my money 100 us dollars some pesos and i count it. i hear some screaming as taking shoe laces and look over and see 20 men most all naked with their penisis exposed hollering gringo gringo. i almost flicked them off and asked if they wanted to fight but didn't. 10 seconds later i am in cell with them. honestly wasn't scared but was hot as hell don't know temperature but hottest ever been in my life lets just give it 100 degrees and humidity to match even dominicans didn't have clothes on and were panting. in i go i figure i can knock out 2 or 3 of them but not 20 so better stay calm. into cell all the way to back its body to body they swarm to me the uglier looking ones tried to intimidate me said don't be scared i wasn't scared the heat was fucking unbearable. i told them not scared just hot two 3 them put hands on my cargo shorts and fondle my pockets a little ask have money i said no police robb me. kept hands to themselves then ask why i am in jail i respond no idea. i tell them soy innocente they all say almost in sequence tambien. i am innocent they say me too and laugh. end of intimidation try then start asking me where i am from i say canada just to lie a little. heat is unbearable hooldlem they are they don't deserve those conditions.
the cell is 10 x 10 i couldn't count blocks because this is too old for that it is also 10 feet high with small barred window 8 feet up or so. one wall for bath but its a plastic pail to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) in and then you dump it in a two inch hole wick is a toilet that is covers with someones clothes to keep stink out must be. toilet in like concrete 5 gallon bucket but to only has 2 inch hole i guess it goes down to hole in ground no water of course. no water in cell whatsover and i already needed something drink. i try to get message to rental car guy i can't take this heat they don't care.
30 minutes pass by i go one side of cell to other trying to find coolest place but quite frankly its body to body. near the jail cell door is best temperature but is still unbearable all guys lay or sit naked aginst floor and wall try stay cool. i get stand by door for a while but one guy wants his place back. another 30 minutes or so goes by they want to talk to me. jason the adventure respresentative with great big smiles ask me if i am rich? i say no and they are trying to c. i say no tengo muchas dinero and keep really sad face. they say hospital bills and such will be 5000 dollars the girl lived had leg broke in two places and pinned. i still say don't have. i get talk to prosecutor a lite skinned dominican can't say she was very friendly. she says need 5000 dollars or have to sit in jail till trial in 6 months. i ask why insurance don't pay is 300 deductable but says don't cover medical bills. ask is i have family to send money i say i don't which is true nothing. i call billy i am not sure at this point i said i am in jail he says what for acccident someone killed no. i said billy you know someone to get me out of here you have 3 police on cell he says not much i can do for you i don't have any money or know anyone but send you my lawyer i said no adventure has one for me. (big mistake) i ask billy doesn't alberto owner of field of dreams know head of police or something the one he just put up there he said no no. i said i made need you call alberto for me may need money i said have money in debit card but hard to do when i am in jail. billy said no problem lasirena has bank open till 8 he said got money out on credit card there before. i say ok but you call alberto just in case i can't take this heat 120 degrees with 20 naked hoodlems. cell phone ended told prosecutor what if few hundred dollars let me out get difference later. nope she is resposible for family medical bills. back to jail cell i go. i told jason adventure agent to give directions to my "friend' to get there. i also told them might be possible to get money but have to be out of jail.
my friend arrives with my passport anddebit card they agree to take me to lasirena. two police officers get into car with me and my friend. i managed to think ahead of time not to give them access to my passport or debit card room. good thing they didn't have my room key they would have had field day with my stuff. get to lasirena all banks are closed i call billy i need alberto he says you call him. i say shit don't even know him never talked to him before. he texted me albertos number and i needed phone from attorney to call alberto jason says how you know him? i don't only a friends friend but he is only one i know come up with 5500 cash at 730pm. alberto calls me hello, i am xxxxxx he don't me either but billy worked the other end. alberto was polite and blunt right to point just like me. i need loan get out i can't take the heat i will be dead. alberto said see what he can do. price went up in 5 minutes jason knows alberto see whats going on? i tell alberto 5500 and nothing more he agrees. phone call comes in its alberto check is at cabana of his and prosecutor agrees to his check. so i get 5500 dollars from guy never met before and i think i am free. my friend is going on and on about how i need th "grease the palms" of the rental car guy. i am thinking to myself just shut the fuck up. i go back directly to jail manage to get debit card to friend before get back into cell and my passport at least i can think ahead of them a little. into jail cell i go no notice of how long i am going in nothing. half hour passes or so they holler i get out prosecutor says i am free i holler at my friend to come and look at this jail cell and look what this is all about fuck no i think he peed his pants. i am waiting for some kind of papers to be signed. i walk outside prosecutor woman who was none to friendly says i am free to leave country. i ask her couple questions about do i get some paperwork? i don't need to get arrested on arrival without a appparent releases from familly of accident victim. i know at least alberto has a check stub. prosecutor is a little petite woman 85 90 lbs jason from adventure is 5 foot 9 i guess 215 lbs maybe hell i don't know but isn't intimidating for me but i know he is on steroids. the woman prosecutor says free to go home. my attorney and jason from adventure say final papers from family need to get signed tomarrow need 1400 dollars more. as the prosecutor is speaking jason is 2 feet away from her over my shoulder i spent alot of money i need reciept for something. turn back around prosecutor is gone its 9m it late she isn't very nice to begin with. get across sidewalk to get back home and attorney and jason say need 400 dollars for prosectutor to pay i say no tengo i don't have. jason and attorney for adventure are talking my "friend pulls out my big wadd of cash and flashes it around like he just found it on sidewalk. the eyes of jason and attorney got big i almost knocked him on his ass right then i told him back in pocket. had to give them 400 dollars to prosecutor before i could go. i don't know who had my cell phone. attorney leaft with my 400 dollars i get into jasons suv i look through my stuff 100 dollars is missing from money i gave jason thieving bastard i gave it to him directly. my friend is saying on oand on i need to grease the palms of jason for doing suck a good job. thanks for being director of gifts assole i am thinking. get in car and cell phone not in bag i forgot to mention jason and attorney for adventure tried taking my passport before i left jail didn't have hands on it once i kept giving back to my friend to keep. the other attorney had my phone by plan i think. on way back to sosua finally got my phone i wasn't leaving without it.
on way back sosua jason tells me better not leave country he has friend in new york who is a cop and he will 'hurt me'. if i would have had enough water in me i would have peed my pants! don't know me very well i said. he said better not leave country till i get my money. i said if i want to leave i will get on spirit flight at 3 am and be gone. remember tomarrow supposed to meet family and get my "release papers" next day i need to outthink what is going on but find it difficult but i need to leave stuff with friend. next morning jason is going to give me ride to puerto plata for final 'paperwork' i want to get my friend don to drive me so they don't hold me "hostage' again. jason picks me up says bring 'everything' i say what for only need the money. i only bring passport i smell something fishy. get to puerto plata and only drive around and around i call billy he says need to settle the car with gypsy. i ask what i am waiting for he says don't want me to meet with family they are mad. weren't mad yesterday. i need my papers. they say need copy of passport i say go up to billys i can get copy. attorney takes my passport (big mistake) they go into colmida across from billy's andget a copy. they call me into there say its 5000 dollars more. i say no they start laughing. only 1000 they say. i give money to attorney paperwork is getting signed now had it 10 minutes. get into suv with jason and jason goes back into colmida real quick ding ding ding i turn around it truck the go into room together split my money. i asked when paperwork oh later. we need go to airport pay for car damage. i get to airport he says have credit card with you? nope! i knew what he was going to do i said i must have lost it i lied it was in room with friend. i said you have my credit card on hold in there need reciept. then i told him i need to call gypsy and get some answers i spent alot of money and got nothing not a receipt for anything i want some answers. jason through a complete fit. i said need talk gypsy account for what 7500 dollars before i pay for damage. he calls her first and tries to blame billy for the whole thing i say no is alot of money and i want answers. gypsy calls me jason is right next to me si i can't tell her what i just saw 10 minutes before hes holding me hostage and quite frankly. i just want tell gypsy i think i need credit for car didn't have never considered paying for attorney also. she says knows one friends i say me too know him very well we will settle up on monday when i leave so lets count 8000 pesos first jason bribe 100 dollars he stole out of my belongings and 400 dollars and 1000 dollars he just got and i still have no papers or reciepts. i get ride back to hotel jason says pick me up monday at noon. i get to room to get belongings from "friend" and get my things alot of drama last couple days so things are tense i get my stuff i have yet to tell him what i think of him. his phone rings its jason says need pick me up early to go to see alberto and pay loan i tell him none your fucking buisness hang up phone. i forgot to mention my "friend" threw a sissy fit when he handed me phone for me. i managed to figure out i never am getting any paperwork jason extorted the 2000 dollars from me and its time for him to pay. i bought other ticket cost 400 dollars and left through santiago this morning. why when it was only 600 dollars to settle? i needed to teach jason lesson. one my friends actually called owner to question jason about the nearly 8k and jason says i was drunk that it why. never had beer all day. they never even checked i had a coke 10 minutes before. jason is already lying back to gypsy but its not going to work i am still pissed jason extorted 2000 dollars from me and i needed to teach him lesson on rental and unfortuneately get gypsy in middle.savepros,
thank you for reposting this report. it is this very report that has kept me from driving in the dr. just prior to dw1987 posting this report i was considering renting a car on my next trip. to this day i won't do it, i just take taxi's, guaguas, motos and buses everywhere because i sure as hell don't need the hassle and can get wherever i want whenever i want using alternative methods. i have been all over the island and have never driven myself anywhere. this of course is just my opinion and i have lots of friends that drive down there, not this hombre though.
I have rented a car all the times I have been to DR. Ofcourse never had a problem except a flat tire hitting a pothole which bent the rim. Some local church guy and his friend changes the tire with a spare refused money. I told them to put the good side up in the spare wheel well. Ofcourse the guy at the airport checked the wheel well but did not see the damaged rim. Ofcourse I did not mention flat as well.
Yes, Acidents can happen. I rented cars from avis, alamo etc. First thing the guy at the airport said was those companies only do the reservation but actually local franchise is in control. I had full rental coverage but I took full bumper to bumper coverage offered by the agence which included $10, 000 medical payments. Ofcourse it did double the rental charges. It did give me peae of mind.
I recognise things can happen as what happened to this guy but like anything else no two people go through the same problem and the outcome may vary.
I would have called the US embassy and get help from them. Local attorneys and rental company owner or guy are not reliable.
Marc Anthony
11-07-11, 19:44
I have rented a car all the times I have been to DR. Ofcourse never had a problem except a flat tire hitting a pothole which bent the rim. Some local church guy and his friend changes the tire with a spare refused money. I told them to put the good side up in the spare wheel well. Ofcourse the guy at the airport checked the wheel well but did not see the damaged rim. Ofcourse I did not mention flat as well.
Yes, Acidents can happen. I rented cars from avis, alamo etc. First thing the guy at the airport said was those companies only do the reservation but actually local franchise is in control. I had full rental coverage but I took full bumper to bumper coverage offered by the agence which included $10, 000 medical payments. Ofcourse it did double the rental charges. It did give me peae of mind.
I recognise things can happen as what happened to this guy but like anything else no two people go through the same problem
And the outcome may vary.
I would have called the US embassy and get help from them. Local attorneys and rental company owner or guy are not reliable.Insurance that covers medical expenses as well as the casa de conductors sounds reasonable but I would want to hear from someone who had an accident and actually tried to use it. If your experience didn't include dealing with any accidents its hard to apply to this. I have never heard of anyone getting any assistance whatever for local legal problems from the US embassy. On the contrary I've heard many reports that they might give you the number for a local attorney but that's about it.
By the time you double the rental charges for maximum insurance (and still don't know if it will really help when it comes to it) it might make sense to hire a taxi driver and his car on a fee plus gas basis full time. I haven't done it yet but I talked to a couple drivers who were open to the idea for 2 to 3 K per day.
I can't get around the idea that in this case (and others I've heard) the driver was stopped to make a turn, the other party slammed into them and were completely at fault and it still turned out as described. Expats with experience can correct me but I believe its very common for Dominicans to automatically flee the scene of accidents they are involved in because of the expectation of this kind of extortion.
Insurance that covers medical expenses as well as the casa de conductors sounds reasonable but I would want to hear from someone who had an accident and actually tried to use it. If your experience didn't include dealing with any accidents its hard to apply to this. I have never heard of anyone getting any assistance whatever for local legal problems from the US embassy. On the contrary I've heard many reports that they might give you the number for a local attorney but that's about it.
By the time you double the rental charges for maximum insurance (and still don't know if it will really help when it comes to it) it might make sense to hire a taxi driver and his car on a fee plus gas basis full time. I haven't done it yet but I talked to a couple drivers who were open to the idea for 2 to 3 K per day.
I can't get around the idea that in this case (and others I've heard) the driver was stopped to make a turn, the other party slammed into them and were completely at fault and it still turned out as described. Expats with experience can correct me but I believe its very common for Dominicans to automatically flee the scene of accidents they are involved in because of the expectation of this kind of extortion.Bq Ribs got into an accident while he was driving an Alamo rental car in Santo Domingo. He was taken to Casa del Conductor office in Santo Domingo to do the paperwork. He said the place was nice, flat screen tv, good A / C, clean etc.
From the Universal Insurance webpage:
"Casa del Conductor, Seguros Universal pone a tu disposicióand; los servicios de La Casa del Conductor, una institucióand carcelaria de tipo especial para accidentes de tránsito. Contamos con un personal especializado para asistir adecuadamente las siguientes necesidades:
Levantamiento de actas policiales.
Alojamiento de retenidos por la Policía en caso de accidentes que involucren lesionados; con servicios de cafeterías-restaurantes, habitaciones, peluquerías, salas de lecturas, enfermería.
Rápida tramitacióand de las acciones legales por accidentes de tránsito, sin necesidad de dirigirse al destacamento policial.
Médicos legistas, juez de paz why fiscal del distrito para asegurar un servicio óptimo why areápido en el momento.
La Casa del Conductor se encuentra ubicada en las siguientes localidades:
Santo Domingo, Av. Bolívar No. 193, Urb. La Esperilla, Tel. 809-381-2424 why Fax 809-563-6851.
Santiago, Calle 16 de Agosto No. 3, Tel. 809-241-4848."
Roughly translated, House of Drivers (casa del conductors) , has investigators that work with police, district attorneys and judges after an accident. If the police want a driver detained, casa del conductors can provide rooms (food, medical services etc, available).
Charles Pooter
11-07-11, 20:26
I would have called the US embassy and get help from them.That's a joke, right?
Manizales911
11-07-11, 20:54
I have rented a car all the times I have been to DR. Ofcourse never had a problem except a flat tire hitting a pothole which bent the rim. Some local church guy and his friend changes the tire with a spare refused money. I told them to put the good side up in the spare wheel well. Ofcourse the guy at the airport checked the wheel well but did not see the damaged rim. Ofcourse I did not mention flat as well.
Yes, Acidents can happen. I rented cars from avis, alamo etc. First thing the guy at the airport said was those companies only do the reservation but actually local franchise is in control. I had full rental coverage but I took full bumper to bumper coverage offered by the agence which included $10, 000 medical payments. Ofcourse it did double the rental charges. It did give me peae of mind.
I recognise things can happen as what happened to this guy but like anything else no two people go through the same problem and the outcome may vary.
I would have called the US embassy and get help from them. Local attorneys and rental company owner or guy are not reliable.Sammon,
I am not going to suggest anyone not drive in the DR but just because you have rented on numerous occasion without incident does not mean the shit won't hit the fan the next time you go, it doesn't reduce the risk one iota. All the insurance in the world isn't going to make the experience a pleasant one at all if a local gets hurt or god forbid killed whether it is your fault or not. If you get in a bad accident and think that the person is going to get out of the car and calmly trade insurance and identification info with you like we do in the states you are badly mistaken. Can you imagine what would happen to a gringo if a little kid came ran out into the street from behind a parked car and you hit the kid, you wouldn't make it out of there alive, it's called street justice and is very much alive in the DR.
Professor 1
11-07-11, 22:21
I would have called the US embassy and get help from them. Local attorneys and rental company owner or guy are not reliable.Unless you work for the US State Department, AND have diplomatic status, the US Mission may be of little help. As others have said, an appropriate police contact will go much further than the US Mission towards your "piece of mind." Calling a Politur friend one night while having a financial dispute with a hotel owner--and I spoke Spanish so the hotel owner could hear me--resolved the matter. Later, I still tipped my friend, so that he knew that I appreciated his willingness to help.
Hillbilly69
11-08-11, 00:45
Getting thrown in a dungeon after a car accident in a foreign country isn't exclusive to the DR. I sat next to a guy on a plane who's friend killed someone in Peru the guy paid 250k to get out of jail he left the country and left his buisnesses behind for his family to assume. I have a personal friend who's friends son killed someone in Africa, they tried legal ways to get him out he was working for Doctors without Borders, his parents were rich doctors. They actually hired a small army to shoot him out of jail, the final bill was somewhere in the 7 figures but he is fine and back in the USA now.
SavePros321
11-08-11, 02:02
I call Billy I am not sure at this point I said I am in Jail he says what for acccident someone killed no. I said Billy you know someone to get me out of here you have 3 police on cell he says not much I can do for you I don't have any money or know anyone but send you my lawyer I said no Adventure has one for me. (Big Mistake) I ask Billy doesn't Alberto Owner of Field of Dreams know head of Police or something the one he just put up there he said no no. I said I made need you call Alberto for me may need money I said have money in debit card but hard to do when I am in Jail. Billy said no problem LaSirena has bank open till 8 he said got money out on credit card there before. I say ok but you call Alberto just in case I can't take this heat 120 degrees with 20 naked hoodlems.
Get to LaSirena all banks are closed I call Billy I need Alberto he says you call him. I say shit don't even know him never talked to him before. He texted me Albertos number and I needed phone from attorney to call Alberto Jason says how you know him? I don't only a friends friend but he is only one I know come up with 5500 cash at 730pm. Alberto calls me Hello, I am xxxxxx he don't me either but Billy worked the other end. Alberto was polite and blunt right to point just like me. I need loan get out I can't take the heat I will be dead. Alberto said see what he can do. Price went up in 5 minutes Jason knows Alberto see whats going on? I tell Alberto 5500 and nothing more he agrees. Phone call comes in its Alberto check is at Cabana of his and prosecutor agrees to his check. So I get 5500 dollars from guy never met before and I think I am free.How many (newbie) mongers can truly say they know someone in the DR to call in case you get stuck in a pinch? You have to seriously consider how lucky this guy was to have the phone number of someone (Dominican Billy) who had the number of someone (Alberto) who just happened to be able to lend 5500 to someone (Dw1987) he's never met before. Most of the folks on this board have no idea who Dominican Billy is, let alone every heard of Field of Dreams, LOL.
Most of us (including myself) would have been shit out of luck and stuck at this point:
Jason the Adventure respresentative with great big smiles ask me if I am rich? I say no and they are trying to C. I say no tengo muchas dinero and keep really sad face. They say hospital bills and such will be 5000 dollars The girl lived had leg broke in two places and pinned. I still say don't have. I get talk to prosecutor a lite skinned Dominican can't say she was very friendly. She says need 5000 dollars or have to sit in JAIL till trial in 6 months.
This stuff is frightening if the drive for pusssy was not so strong we would stay home.
How many (newbie) mongers can truly say they know someone in the DR to call in case you get stuck in a pinch? You have to seriously consider how lucky this guy was to have the phone number of someone (Dominican Billy) who had the number of someone (Alberto) who just happened to be able to lend 5500 to someone (Dw1987) he's never met before. Most of the folks on this board have no idea who Dominican Billy is, let alone every heard of Field of Dreams, LOL.
Most of us (including myself) would have been shit out of luck and stuck at this point:
Bobsthrobbinknob
11-08-11, 15:36
How many (newbie) mongers can truly say they know someone in the DR to call in case you get stuck in a pinch? You have to seriously consider how lucky this guy was to have the phone number of someone (Dominican Billy) who had the number of someone (Alberto) who just happened to be able to lend 5500 to someone (Dw1987) he's never met before. Most of the folks on this board have no idea who Dominican Billy is, let alone every heard of Field of Dreams, LOL. Most of us (including myself) would have been shit out of luck and stuck at this point:Just because you aren't renting a car and have an accident, involved in drugs, or the latest scam of claiming domestic violence, doesn't mean that these charges can't be brought. The gringo has considerably more money and PAYS WELL to get out of jail and they KNOW IT. This ENTIRE SCENARIO does not change whatever the "charges" might be. Same jail, same process. ALL FEAR AND THREATS OF LONG JAIL TIME. The THREATS ARE REAL and there are many in that predicament RIGHT NOW. The game is getting bolder and more frequent because it is working. Just about EVERY GRINGO I know can come up with $5, 000US to get his ass out of jail, especially once they are in one like Puerto Plata.
Hear me when I say this: TO BE A TARGET YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE GUILTY TO BE ARRESTED OR CHARGED, JUST PERCEIVED CAPABLE OF BUYING YOUR WAY OUT OF JAIL.
HEED THIS WARNING. The D. R. Is rapidly becoming a DANGEROUS PLAYGROUND.
Charles Pooter
11-08-11, 17:05
Just because you aren't renting a car and have an accident, involved in drugs, or the latest scam of claiming domestic violence, doesn't mean that these charges can't be brought. The gringo has considerably more money and PAYS WELL to get out of jail and they KNOW IT. This ENTIRE SCENARIO does not change whatever the "charges" might be. Same jail, same process. ALL FEAR AND THREATS OF LONG JAIL TIME. The THREATS ARE REAL and there are many in that predicament RIGHT NOW. The game is getting bolder and more frequent because it is working. Just about EVERY GRINGO I know can come up with $5, 000US to get his ass out of jail, especially once they are in one like Puerto Plata.
Hear me when I say this: TO BE A TARGET YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE GUILTY TO BE ARRESTED OR CHARGED, JUST PERCEIVED CAPABLE OF BUYING YOUR WAY OUT OF JAIL.
HEED THIS WARNING. The D. R. Is rapidly becoming a DANGEROUS PLAYGROUND.Your post may be on point but you devalue the message by writing so much in all caps. Whenever I see all caps I assume the writer is a crackpot.
Your post may be on point but you devalue the message by writing so much in all caps. Whenever I see all caps I assume the writer is a crackpot.Did Tropical run out of your favourite brand of prune juice Sir Charles?
Marc Anthony
11-08-11, 19:05
because this sort of thing seems so unfair by first world standards i think theres a temptation to think it's the same thing as a criminal scam, and that tourists might be randomly thrown in jail and extorted. it's not. it's the ordinary operation of the law. if you are not driving a car you will not find yourself in jail for being in an accident. this is not some bizarre local anomaly, the legal system in the dr works like this. dominican drivers tend to just hit and run drive away from the scene of an accident because they know how the law works. there is even a commonly appeciated morally understandable reason for it. medical care is expensive and most people don't have insurance. hospitals will not just take anybody and worry about payment later. somebody injured in a car accident often desperately needs a guarantee that somebody will pay for care and since just driving a car implies you have money the system leans on the driver whether they are at fault or not. the alternative may be for some poor girl to die or be permanently crippled because nobody would pay for medical care. and it wasn't her fault either she was just a passenger.
because the system works like this individuals will try to game the system, like deliberately getting into accidents to set up drivers, but that is not likely what happened here and is not as common as the fact that accidents just happen.
people are set up for buying drugs and having sex with ****d chicas too. generally in those cases as well if you aren't willing to buy drugs and you are careful about i'd and not messing with **** chicas. you will not be drawn into it. these things almost always require that the target actually participate and be effectively guilty, whether entrapped or not. they count on the ordinary operation of the legal system as the background for what amounts to extortion and that ordinarily means participation. unlike drugs or ****d chicas, merely renting a car and driving set you up for this if you have an accident and somebody is hurt or killed. in effect the sytem treats you as a criminal if that happens so the act of driving is putting yourself at risk in a significant way. people (even posters on this forum) admit to buying marijuana in the dr. they can do that without any consequences too. but it also makes them vulnerable to getting sucked into the legal system extortion if they aren't lucky.
the point is not to tell people not to rent cars and drive but to make them aware that they aren't in kansas anymore and there are risks they should be aware of.
I agree with the fact that the DR (especially Sosua / Puerto Plata) is getting more dangerous than in previous years. I have been coming to the DR for 12 years now and have been living here since retiring 3 years ago. I have always been a person very aware of my surroundings and what is going on. I have always felt relatively safe here in the DR. I am not a paranoid kind of person, but in the last year I have observed more and more corrupt police actions. I am currently making plans to permanently leave the Dominican Republic and live in another part of the world. I used to love the DR and still do in some ways but the level of in-your-face corruption has reached a degree that for me is no longer tolerable. I have actually started to feel unsafe here after all these years. Additionally, the cost of living in the DR (rent, food, transportation, cable, internet, massage, etc, etc.) are so much higher than other wonderful parts of the planet that it no longer makes sense for me to stay here. I realize that coming to the DR for a vacation is convenient and fairly easy for many guys, hence its popularity. I still have a lot of fun here, but I have more fun in a much more relaxed atmosphere other places on the planet. I have been traveling the planet for 45 years now and am no novice when it comes to knowledge of the world. More specifically, it is just my personal opinion that Puerto Plata and Sosua are dying communities in terms of tourism anyway. There are many fewer people coming to these towns than in the past which is definitily affecting the economy of the area. Many Dominicans that had jobs previously are now jobless. There is more desperation for many Dominicans now than in past times. The unwarranted and random arrest and jailing of many girls in Sosua by the Politur (Tourist Police. An oxymoron) has resulted in many girls that would normally come here to entertain us guys are now staying away out of fear of the Politur and jail. This has resulted in a noticeable decline in the overall numbers and quality of girls available in Sosua. Yes, there is for sure still fun to be had and there are still girls in Sosua, but it is NOT what it used to be. There are numerous behind-the-scenes reasons for this which I won't go into here. Suffice it to say. The DR is one of the most corrupt countries on the planet, more dangerous than in times past, rampant inflation, and for me much less desireable than it used to be. It's still a beautiful country with a lot to offer, but presently there are better places. Things are constantly changing everywhere and perhaps one day the DR will once again be more desireable than it is now.
Marc Anthony
11-08-11, 19:42
Just to add a bit about the Dominican legal system. It's based on the Napoleonic code and defacto presumes guilt of defendants. There are no jury trials. The judge works directly with prosecutors in collecting evidence.
In the case of an accident with injury the driver is effectively presumed guilty, pending an investigation and trial.
The casa de conductor insurance mentioned is designed for people who work as drivers. If the are in an accident they would have to go to jail like anybody else but they can pay insurance that will allow them to stay instead in a special more hotel like facility awaiting the legal process.
If you are just renting a car and get in an accident completely unaware of this it seems like a Kafkaesque nighmare, being thrown in jail for just being a driver in an accident but its just normal legal process. The jail cell packed with naked hoodlums is just normal too.
Manizales911
11-08-11, 20:16
because this sort of thing seems so unfair by first world standards i think theres a temptation to think it's the same thing as a criminal scam, and that tourists might be randomly thrown in jail and extorted. it's not. it's the ordinary operation of the law. if you are not driving a car you will not find yourself in jail for being in an accident. this is not some bizarre local anomaly, the legal system in the dr works like this. dominican drivers tend to just hit and run drive away from the scene of an accident because they know how the law works. there is even a commonly appeciated morally understandable reason for it. medical care is expensive and most people don't have insurance. hospitals will not just take anybody and worry about payment later. somebody injured in a car accident often desperately needs a guarantee that somebody will pay for care and since just driving a car implies you have money the system leans on the driver whether they are at fault or not. the alternative may be for some poor girl to die or be permanently crippled because nobody would pay for medical care. and it wasn't her fault either she was just a passenger.
because the system works like this individuals will try to game the system, like deliberately getting into accidents to set up drivers, but that is not likely what happened here and is not as common as the fact that accidents just happen.
people are set up for buying drugs and having sex with ****d chicas too. generally in those cases as well if you aren't willing to buy drugs and you are careful about i'd and not messing with **** chicas. you will not be drawn into it. these things almost always require that the target actually participate and be effectively guilty, whether entrapped or not. they count on the ordinary operation of the legal system as the background for what amounts to extortion and that ordinarily means participation. unlike drugs or ****d chicas, merely renting a car and driving set you up for this if you have an accident and somebody is hurt or killed. in effect the sytem treats you as a criminal if that happens so the act of driving is putting yourself at risk in a significant way. people (even posters on this forum) admit to buying marijuana in the dr. they can do that without any consequences too. but it also makes them vulnerable to getting sucked into the legal system extortion if they aren't lucky.
the point is not to tell people not to rent cars and drive but to make them aware that they aren't in kansas anymore and there are risks they should be aware of.very informative post marc, thanks.
Charles Pooter
11-08-11, 21:14
Very informative post Marc, thanks.I agree it was balanced and well-informed like most of Marc Anthony posts. Not sure it was so good it was worth posting three times, though.
Marc Anthony
11-08-11, 22:26
I agree it was balanced and well-informed like most of Marc Anthony posts. Not sure it was so good it was worth posting three times, though.I don't know how I did that. I filed reports to delete the duplicates.
Bobsthrobbinknob
11-08-11, 23:15
Dear Pooter,
I gave some sound advice to an evolving scam being perpetuated through the very system that Marc Anthony describes for the benefit of this online community. It is up to you to decide whether to listen or not, or believe or not. I know it's true, I saw it first hand so whether you believe I'm a crackpot by the way I wrote it is not really important to me. I posted this to make more men aware that this "disneyland" and "playground" that they all enjoy can flip over on you quick. Register with the Embassy there on the North Coast, keep numbers handy. It might be 1 in a 1000 that get stuck on this scam, but 6 got hit with it in September. If one is one of those 6, this would have been important to know.
Again, I emphasize without caps: This scam involving domestic violence does not require anything but a plausible charge to be brought forth and a gringo will find himself in Puerto Plata prison until he is able to buy his way out, pay his attorney fees, and / or prove his innocence.
Maybe the contribution the gringo has in this scam is involving himself with a "working girl", however, isn't that what this forum focuses on?
Just because you aren't renting a car and have an accident, involved in drugs, or the latest scam of claiming domestic violence, doesn't mean that these charges can't be brought. The gringo has considerably more money and PAYS WELL to get out of jail and they KNOW IT. This ENTIRE SCENARIO does not change whatever the "charges" might be. Same jail, same process. ALL FEAR AND THREATS OF LONG JAIL TIME. The THREATS ARE REAL and there are many in that predicament RIGHT NOW. The game is getting bolder and more frequent because it is working. Just about EVERY GRINGO I know can come up with $5, 000US to get his ass out of jail, especially once they are in one like Puerto Plata.
Hear me when I say this: TO BE A TARGET YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE GUILTY TO BE ARRESTED OR CHARGED, JUST PERCEIVED CAPABLE OF BUYING YOUR WAY OUT OF JAIL.
HEED THIS WARNING. The D. R. Is rapidly becoming a DANGEROUS PLAYGROUND.I agree and thank you for that useful warning, I don't disagree that these 6 guys may have been extorted, still the main point is and will always be the same 'fly low'. Some peoples cannot resist the urge to flash and brag, which make them perfect targets. I don't need to repeat the basics of security in third world country, they have been repeated over and over on this board. So chances are high that those guy's became target by their own actions. Maybe they could had taken the time to read many months back on this board, they would had learned enough to avoid those pitfall.
AlwaysHorny 2
11-09-11, 01:58
Or three times in Marc Anthony's case! LOL Just giving you a hard time dude, I couldn't resist.
As usual, I appreciate the advice / information. Upon further deliberation, I've decided against renting a car. I deal with risk everyday and the most basic rule is to analyze the risk / reward BEFOREHAND!
NO piece of ass is worth 10k USD. Also, costs aside, who wants their vacation interrupted and filled with so much anxiety?
I just wanted to hit the open road and be free to discover things spontaneously and leave Sosua for some night time activity. It's not like I've been punked out of renting a car. The stories helped me better understand what I am dealing with. I'll probably just hire a taxi for a day here and there. If anybody has some good contacts, please pass them along.
I already know about the tire and windshield scams, but that other shit is next level. I'm sure I would have gotten myself into deep trouble or killed if I was in that story because there would have been a few instances where I lost my temper!
Charles Pooter
11-09-11, 02:31
I just wanted to hit the open road and be free to discover things spontaneously and leave Sosua for some night time activity.Don't forget you can see a lot of the country very safely, comfortably and extremely cheaply using the Caribe Tours and Metro bus networks, supplemented by local buses to reach the smaller towns (a bit less comfortably, but you see the real DR that way). Not the same as your own car, but very cheap and less stressful.
Charles Pooter
11-09-11, 02:35
And this time you made your point beautifully. I apologize for being a bit hard on you previously. As a former proof-reader things like excessive use of caps probably irk me more than most here. Thanks for the warning which is worth bearing in mind.
I agree and thank you for that useful warning, I don't disagree that these 6 guys may have been extorted, still the main point is and will always be the same 'fly low'. Some peoples cannot resist the urge to flash and brag, which make them perfect targets. I don't need to repeat the basics of security in third world country, they have been repeated over and over on this board. So chances are high that those guy's became target by their own actions. Maybe they could had taken the time to read many months back on this board, they would had learned enough to avoid those pitfall.HornyB Hello. That was good advice Bob gave. I think he lives there. He doesn't post much, but I think he is one of the most reliable posters here. If a puta makes an accusation, even without proof, its up to the gringo to prove his innocence. Who can sit in a Dominican jail naked, sharing a cell with100 dominicans with a bucket in the middle to shit in, waiting for a trial. The scammers know you will tap out (pay thousands) , and be glad just to leave the DR never to return.
I'm sure well be hearing more about this scam. Just when you think the DR can't get worse, now this.
I had something simular happen to a police friend two years ago. He was in Classicos dancing with a chica, when her lesbian lover attacked him. He left and as he was walking down the stairs leaving Classicos the girl jumps of a higher step like Bruce Lee. He knocked the girl out. The police came to Europa to investigate. He told the cops he was exiting the scene when he was attacked twice, the police didn't care. What saved his ass was her fingernail cut him right below the eye when she attacked him in Classicos, and the fact that he was also a cop. Without that cut under his eye it wouldn't have been self defense, and he wouldve went to jail.
Or three times in Marc Anthony's case! LOL Just giving you a hard time dude, I couldn't resist.
As usual, I appreciate the advice / information. Upon further deliberation, I've decided against renting a car. I deal with risk everyday and the most basic rule is to analyze the risk / reward BEFOREHAND!
NO piece of ass is worth 10k USD. Also, costs aside, who wants their vacation interrupted and filled with so much anxiety?
I just wanted to hit the open road and be free to discover things spontaneously and leave Sosua for some night time activity. It's not like I've been punked out of renting a car. The stories helped me better understand what I am dealing with. I'll probably just hire a taxi for a day here and there. If anybody has some good contacts, please pass them along.
I already know about the tire and windshield scams, but that other shit is next level. I'm sure I would have gotten myself into deep trouble or killed if I was in that story because there would have been a few instances where I lost my temper!Over 25 trips renting cars in DR, worse problem I have encountered is Police stopping me, harassing me for money (pocket change money). Plenty of bad drivers in DR doing stupid stuff who will be more prone to get into accidents, and there are many of them out on the roads. Drive slow and take it easy and you should be fine. Between Sosua and Puerto Plata mostly sugar cane fields. I wouldn't give up on renting the car so easy. To be stuck being a passenger in an old beat up piece of shit vehicle at the mercy of a possibly crazy Dominican driver, I'd rather have my own two hands on the wheel of the car.
Don't forget you can see a lot of the country very safely, comfortably and extremely cheaply using the Caribe Tours and Metro bus networks, supplemented by local buses to reach the smaller towns (a bit less comfortably, but you see the real DR that way). Not the same as your own car, but very cheap and less stressful.It is not the same. Much easier to get a blow job in a rental car, it is possible on a caribe tours bus or metro bus, but the seats recline more in a car, making things more comfortable.
"Are we not King's Men?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL1EZRKi9B8
Dear Pooter,
I gave some sound advice to an evolving scam being perpetuated through the very system that Marc Anthony describes for the benefit of this online community. It is up to you to decide whether to listen or not, or believe or not. I know it's true, I saw it first hand so whether you believe I'm a crackpot by the way I wrote it is not really important to me. I posted this to make more men aware that this "disneyland" and "playground" that they all enjoy can flip over on you quick. Register with the Embassy there on the North Coast, keep numbers handy. It might be 1 in a 1000 that get stuck on this scam, but 6 got hit with it in September. If one is one of those 6, this would have been important to know.
Again, I emphasize without caps: This scam involving domestic violence does not require anything but a plausible charge to be brought forth and a gringo will find himself in Puerto Plata prison until he is able to buy his way out, pay his attorney fees, and / or prove his innocence.
Maybe the contribution the gringo has in this scam is involving himself with a "working girl", however, isn't that what this forum focuses on?I follow these forums all the time, what am I missing here? What domestic violence scam? What are the 6 hit in Sept?
Anywhere in Latin America, you are better off hiring a car and a driver vs. Renting a car. Even if you think it's cheaper to rent the car, it's not, when all costs are considered. There is the cost of being hassled, the cost of the stress of the way they drive, and the cost of them claiming imaginary damage and charging it to your credit card. There is the cost of bribes. There is the cost of being accused of being drunk when you are not. There is the cost of being accused of being drunk when you in fact have been drinking. And then, of course, there is the cost of them getting their hands on your credit card. One huge issue there is that they will rent you a car, arrange for it to get stolen, and charge your card for the entire and often inflated cost of the piece of shit car they rented you.
It's just not worth it, and it isn't necessary. For a lot of gringos, it is sort of a natural, knee-jerk thing to do. Go on vacation, rent a car. No.
A friend of mine was a victim of a scam like that. Got into a conflict with an expat property owner. Called him out for being a thief. Called the cops on the expat. The cops came, did nothing, then left. Next day: the expat got hit girlfriend to claim that he hit her. Cops were called. Guy went to shitty Sosua jail.
Never had a trial. Never got officially charged. Embassy never notified. Nothing. He had to send a message to an American friend in town who told a lawyer. After 2 days in the jail they took him to Puerto Plata. Some money was given to a judge. He was released. Never explained anything to him. Just told him that's how it goes. Found out later that the woman was the niece of some big judge somewhere in Cibao.
On another subject: any of you guys run into any girls in Sosua who can deep throat or take a nice face fucking lately?
Marc Anthony
11-09-11, 07:45
while we are discussing scams it's worth mentioning how perfect ****d sex is as a set-up. us citizens can be charged with a federal felony in the us for engaging in sex with minors anywhere in the world. the dr has a plentiful supply of 17 year olds with 3 kids who have been doing it since they were 11. their tio just has to get a gringo to take the bait and the rest is easy. it makes no difference that she didn't look like a minor, claimed to be 18 or had kids. even if it offended nobody in the dr and she was a known puta, if she was a 17 yr old puta the gringo has committed a felony under us law and prosecution can be triggered by prosecution in the dr. it's not just a matter of getting out of the country, the real problem is the us.
what's it worth not to have your life destroyed? tio and the system could bleed a gringo dry to avoid those charges. nobody will even care whether she was put up to it. the crime is inherent in the act and the fact it was a set-up is not a defense. other than the simple lie that she is over 18 if the gringo even asks, there isn't even any deception needed. she really would be under 18 and the sex would be real. no question of guilt. witnesses would even be easy. many guys would happily take pictures or video to make the prosecutions case airtight.
just a reason to check those cedulas and never be tempted to think she's obviously of age.
Coolie High
11-09-11, 08:11
while we are discussing scams it's worth mentioning how perfect ****d sex is as a set-up. us citizens can be charged with a federal felony in the us for engaging in sex with minors anywhere in the world. the dr has a plentiful supply of 17 year olds with 3 kids who have been doing it since they were 11. their tio just has to get a gringo to take the bait and the rest is easy. it makes no difference that she didn't look like a minor, claimed to be 18 or had kids. even if it offended nobody in the dr and she was a known puta, if she was a 17 yr old puta the gringo has committed a felony under us law and prosecution can be triggered by prosecution in the dr. it's not just a matter of getting out of the country, the real problem is the us.
what's it worth not to have your life destroyed? tio and the system could bleed a gringo dry to avoid those charges. nobody will even care whether she was put up to it. the crime is inherent in the act and the fact it was a set-up is not a defense. other than the simple lie that she is over 18 if the gringo even asks, there isn't even any deception needed. she really would be under 18 and the sex would be real. no question of guilt. witnesses would even be easy. many guys would happily take pictures or video to make the prosecutions case airtight.
just a reason to check those cedulas and never be tempted to think she's obviously of age.you've got to be an idiot to even want to deal with an **** girl in dr. my boy who went to the dr for the first time this year was fantazing about being with a 17yr old. i damn near slap the taste out his mouth. he tried to rationalize that here in nv the legal age of consent is 16 so why not! i told him your in another country which you've never been to and doing stupid shit that could get you caught up! he listen and only dealt with 18 and up.
the crazy part is that he probably could've gotten away with it. he's dominican that speaks perfect spanish and was visiting his homeland for the first time. but why risk a chance for a set-up when you got honeys turning 18yrs old everyday.
as of today if a female was born november 9th. 1993 she's fair game gents. all you monger sharks out there bon appetite lol
I agree and thank you for that useful warning, I don't disagree that these 6 guys may have been extorted, still the main point is and will always be the same 'fly low'. Some peoples cannot resist the urge to flash and brag, which make them perfect targets. I don't need to repeat the basics of security in third world country, they have been repeated over and over on this board. So chances are high that those guy's became target by their own actions. Maybe they could had taken the time to read many months back on this board, they would had learned enough to avoid those pitfall.I agree. If your gut tells you something is not right with a certain chica, walk away.
I agree with the fact that the DR (especially Sosua / Puerto Plata) is getting more dangerous than in previous years. I have been coming to the DR for 12 years now and have been living here since retiring 3 years ago. I have always been...Good post and sad, thanks.
SavePros321
11-09-11, 11:56
Over 25 trips renting cars in DR, worse problem I have encountered is Police stopping me, harassing me for money (pocket change money).Although no fault of your own, don't forget you almost ran over a cop in SD who was trying to chase you down (on foot) for a bribe. I'm thinking that would have been 10x worse than running over a civilian.
HornyB Hello. That was good advice Bob gave. I think he lives there. He doesn't post much, but I think he is one of the most reliable posters here. If a puta makes an accusation, even without proof, its up to the gringo to prove his innocence. Who can sit in a Dominican jail naked, sharing a cell with100 dominicans with a bucket in the middle to shit in, waiting for a trial. The scammers know you will tap out (pay thousands) , and be glad just to leave the DR never to return.
I'm sure well be hearing more about this scam. Just when you think the DR can't get worse, now this.
I had something simular happen to a police friend two years ago. He was in Classicos dancing with a chica, when her lesbian lover attacked him. He left and as he was walking down the stairs leaving Classicos the girl jumps of a higher step like Bruce Lee. He knocked the girl out. The police came to Europa to investigate. He told the cops he was exiting the scene when he was attacked twice, the police didn't care. What saved his ass was her fingernail cut him right below the eye when she attacked him in Classicos, and the fact that he was also a cop. Without that cut under his eye it wouldn't have been self defense, and he wouldve went to jail.Hi Mr Gogo, I fully agree with what Bob wrote and was thanking him for the warning. Your friend did the right thing by exiting and avoiding confrontation. I don't think that it is possible to avoid all the traps, but you can reduce the possibility by not walking as a target, meaning don't flash, don't go around claiming that you are rich to impress the girls. I won't bring my stupid brother back to DR as he keep doing those thing, most of the time wearing a jacket and being drunk all the time not remembering the stupidity that he has done the previous day.
Which bring the following question? If your friend didn't had the fingernail cut and being himself a Police officer, could he had avoided going to jail by tipping the Police investigator?
Having your own car is very convient but there are risks. In the DR those risks can be extreme. I think maybe one out of a 100 may have a problem. If you are in Santo Domingo like many big cities taxis are very practical and the peace of mind is great. If you are in more rural sections then go for the car. I have driven and rented a cars in the SD and it is a bucket list experience. Easy to make a mistake for the uninititated. I think having a relationship with a driver is a real plus. You are on a vacation why not relax and focus on the fun let juan do the driving for you. [Plan yout trip so your hotel make your activities easy. Get a hotel or appartment close to the action so your rides are generally short and if you have an excursion rent the car.
QUOTE=SavePros321; 1215452]Although no fault of your own, don't forget you almost ran over a cop in SD who was trying to chase you down (on foot) for a bribe. I'm thinking that would have been 10x worse than running over a civilian.[/QUOTE]
Hi Mr Gogo, I fully agree with what Bob wrote and was thanking him for the warning. Your friend did the right thing by exiting and avoiding confrontation. I don't think that it is possible to avoid all the traps, but you can reduce the possibility by not walking as a target, meaning don't flash, don't go around claiming that you are rich to impress the girls. I won't bring my stupid brother back to DR as he keep doing those thing, most of the time wearing a jacket and being drunk all the time not remembering the stupidity that he has done the previous day.
Which bring the following question? If your friend didn't had the fingernail cut and being himself a Police officer, could he had avoided going to jail by tipping the Police investigator?Its all about money so he might have payed his way out. Bobs report worries me because if it becomes acceptable that these girls will be backed in their scam it makes all of us potential victims.
Manizales911
11-09-11, 15:13
you've got to be an idiot to even want to deal with an **** girl in dr. my boy who went to the dr for the first time this year was fantazing about being with a 17yr old. i damn near slap the taste out his mouth. he tried to rationalize that here in nv the legal age of consent is 16 so why not! i told him your in another country which you've never been to and doing stupid shit that could get you caught up! he listen and only dealt with 18 and up.
the crazy part is that he probably could've gotten away with it. he's dominican that speaks perfect spanish and was visiting his homeland for the first time. but why risk a chance for a set-up when you got honeys turning 18yrs old everyday.
as of today if a female was born november 9th. 1993 she's fair game gents. all you monger sharks out there bon appetite lolword coolie, and besides at sixteen or seventeen they are just kids anyway, i want to fuck a woman.
Marc Anthony
11-09-11, 16:40
It is not the same. Much easier to get a blow job in a rental car, it is possible on a caribe tours bus or metro bus, but the seats recline more in a car, making things more comfortable.
"Are we not King's Men?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL1EZRKi9B8In the backseat there's no steering wheel or shifter in the way and you can stretch your legs out to the side, take your time and and enjoy a good BJ. I've been tempted in Caribe tours as I actually had the chica fall asleep with her head in my lap but the bus was just too crowded.
Now I know some of you will judge me. First, I made a big mistake by not asking her age. Yes, I should have but if I showed you a picture you might not think to ask, but I learned a lesson always ask a chicas age. Also, I am really not into you girls it just happened cannot change it now, but I did try after the fact to make it right and talk to her mother and farther as I am not into taking advantage of young poor girls. I hate to admit it but I like this girl. By the way her ex is a minor league player with the St Louis Cardinals.
I agree with the fact that the DR (especially Sosua / Puerto Plata) is getting more dangerous than in previous years. I have been coming to the DR for 12 years now and have been living here since retiring 3 years ago. I have always been a person very aware of my surroundings and what is going on. I have always felt relatively safe here in the DR. I am not a paranoid kind of person, but in the last year I have observed more and more corrupt police actions. I am currently making plans to permanently leave the Dominican Republic and live in another part of the world. I used to love the DR and still do in some ways but the level of in-your-face corruption has reached a degree that for me is no longer tolerable. I have actually started to feel unsafe here after all these years. Additionally, the cost of living in the DR (rent, food, transportation, cable, internet, massage, etc, etc.) are so much higher than other wonderful parts of the planet that it no longer makes sense for me to stay here. I realize that coming to the DR for a vacation is convenient and fairly easy for many guys, hence its popularity. I still have a lot of fun here, but I have more fun in a much more relaxed atmosphere other places on the planet. I have been traveling the planet for 45 years now and am no novice when it comes to knowledge of the world. More specifically, it is just my personal opinion that Puerto Plata and Sosua are dying communities in terms of tourism anyway. There are many fewer people coming to these towns than in the past which is definitily affecting the economy of the area. Many Dominicans that had jobs previously are now jobless. There is more desperation for many Dominicans now than in past times. The unwarranted and random arrest and jailing of many girls in Sosua by the Politur (Tourist Police. An oxymoron) has resulted in many girls that would normally come here to entertain us guys are now staying away out of fear of the Politur and jail. This has resulted in a noticeable decline in the overall numbers and quality of girls available in Sosua. Yes, there is for sure still fun to be had and there are still girls in Sosua, but it is NOT what it used to be. There are numerous behind-the-scenes reasons for this which I won't go into here. Suffice it to say. The DR is one of the most corrupt countries on the planet, more dangerous than in times past, rampant inflation, and for me much less desireable than it used to be. It's still a beautiful country with a lot to offer, but presently there are better places. Things are constantly changing everywhere and perhaps one day the DR will once again be more desireable than it is now.Thanks for posting. I think your post got buried in the ongoing debate of "to rent a car or not to rent a car". I think alot of people didn't give you creditability because it was your first post, but I think you know more than most about current affairs in Sosua. Some things you didn't want to go in dept about and I respect that. Again thanks for your insight.
Charles Pooter
11-10-11, 16:01
Now I know some of you will judge me. First, I made a big mistake by not asking her age. Yes, I should have but if I showed you a picture you might not think to ask, but I learned a lesson always ask a chicas age. Also, I am really not into you girls it just happened cannot change it now, but I did try after the fact to make it right and talk to her mother and farther as I am not into taking advantage of young poor girls. I hate to admit it but I like this girl. By the way her ex is a minor league player with the St Louis Cardinals.It is not our judging you you need to worry about, but the US justice system. Not sure admitting the fact to the parents was such a bright idea. Now there are two cast-iron witnesses after the fact. In fact I think your best course is to delete your post and edit any earlier posts referring to the matter.
Mr Enternational
11-10-11, 16:13
It is not our judging you you need to worry about, but the US justice system. Not sure admitting the fact to the parents was such a bright idea. Now there are two cast-iron witnesses after the fact. In fact I think your best course is to delete your post and edit any earlier posts referring to the matter.Yeah. Admitting it was the dumb thing to do. You only opened yourself up to who knows what. Getting ghost and laying low would have been the smart thing. You got to know when to walk away and know when to run.
AlwaysHorny 2
11-10-11, 20:51
On my last visit back in June, you can definitely see and feel the effect of the Global economic downturn. I noticed some restaurants barely had one present customer. Day or night. The bars during the day were basically empty. The insistent "begging" of the peddlers was very annoying. Plus, in general, the attitudes of the chicos were more hardened than my previous trips. A few times I would even notice scowls on some of the faces. I never felt unsafe. However, the total sum of the environment is less than inviting.
I assume the uptick in scams is due to the rising poverty and unemployment. Desperate times call for desperate measures and the basic survival instinct is to do what is necessary to eat. I am not condoning this behavior in the least bit. I'm just trying to wrap some understanding around things.
I think this also has had an effect on the chicas. They now have more mouths to feed. Including the police! Time is money and they simply can't afford to be laid up all day and night for $50. I know some people like to blame the supposed new clientele and hypothesize that this new breed doesn't seek out or value a GFE experience, but I think the chicas are becoming hip to the game. If they can get in / out within a hour and leave $40 richer, I guess they figure they can easily do this 3 times a day and make out better than that $100 GFE. Even if it is that much and probably put in much less work overall.
I am far from a DR expert. A few guys like to paint gloomy and depressing pictures, but I'm not one of them. Although things have changed, in some ways, I noticed improvement. The women I saw out at night looked better than my previous trip. It seems like a bunch of women are now coming from Santo Domingo and Santiago. Two separate women I scooped up, bounced out of town as soon as we were finished and I didn't see a glimpse of them the rest of the weekend.
So, it may be true that the GFE is dying. However, it is not completely done. I had a few opportunities to wife up a nice chica, but I had my boys to entertain. I would like to say that I will chill out this time and seek out a GFE, but who knows? As my trip approaches, I am fired up no matter what rhetoric is tossed around.
I am really concerned about the future and the situation becoming worse. As soon as the thug mentality hits and mongers start getting robbed on a regular, Sosua and other parts of the DR will really see a decline in $$$. It would be best if the police focused on crime and corruption. Leave the fucking putas alone!
The DR is one of the most corrupt countries on the planet, more dangerous than in times past, rampant inflation, and for me much less desireable than it used to be. It's still a beautiful country with a lot to offer, but presently there are better places.Interesting. I am scheduled to go there next week. What other places would you recommend instead of the DR? Philippines? Thailand? I am curious, so please do tell.
Manizales911
11-11-11, 00:43
Now I know some of you will judge me. First, I made a big mistake by not asking her age. Yes, I should have but if I showed you a picture you might not think to ask, but I learned a lesson always ask a chicas age. Also, I am really not into you girls it just happened cannot change it now, but I did try after the fact to make it right and talk to her mother and farther as I am not into taking advantage of young poor girls. I hate to admit it but I like this girl. By the way her ex is a minor league player with the St Louis Cardinals.Dude you tried to make it right? Unless I am reading your other post incorrectly after you got "permission" from her mother you kept banging her, WTF. My advise to anyone would be NOT to judge a girl's age by their looks and do NOT ask a girl their age because most of them will lie, ask for a cedula and if they can't produce one kick them to the curb, period.
Bobsthrobbinknob
11-11-11, 01:24
HornyB Hello. That was good advice Bob gave. I think he lives there. He doesn't post much, but I think he is one of the most reliable posters here. If a puta makes an accusation, even without proof, its up to the gringo to prove his innocence. Who can sit in a Dominican jail naked, sharing a cell with100 dominicans with a bucket in the middle to shit in, waiting for a trial. The scammers know you will tap out (pay thousands) , and be glad just to leave the DR never to return.
I'm sure well be hearing more about this scam. Just when you think the DR can't get worse, now this.I hope I am the "Bob" you are talking about. I had been "living" in the D. R. Essentially since April of this year, and been traveling there for about 7 years. I started to see the same things others are seeing. I stopped posting, mainly because of the personal attacks (like Pooter complaining about my CAPS) and not really listening to the message.
I love many things about the D. R. But fortunately I don't own property, have a leased apartment, car or pasola. I left there in a rush when I saw two very special friends so easily and willfully scammed by misusing their legal system and heard of the others all in a recent and short period of time. Google "impedimento de salida" and you'll see a number of their uses for this valuable legal tool, including, but not limited to airport immigration.
Also, I am not telling anyone what to do or where to go. Just be informed. Many will tell you it's nothing to worry about. Check their interests. Do they own property down there? What are their motives? I for one, have no intentions of every going back to the D. R. After what I've seen. There are other places to go for sure, but I look with a much more keen interest to State Department Warnings now.
Charles Pooter
11-11-11, 02:36
It would be best if the police focused on crime and corruption.I can assure you they do, and they are getting ever more expert at both.
Coolie High
11-11-11, 02:48
Dude you tried to make it right? Unless I am reading your other post incorrectly after you got "permission" from her mother you kept banging her, WTF. My advise to anyone would be NOT to judge a girl's age by their looks and do NOT ask a girl their age because most of them will lie, ask for a cedula and if they can't produce one kick them to the curb, period.Yeah Mani's right! We all do dumb shit but once you realize that she was 17 you should've let that go ASAP and like Mr. E said got ghost. I don't care how good the pussy was or if it was love at first sight for your safety wait that extra year. It's a scary thought to know that your one phone call away by the parents or the girl to be in some MAJOR shit.
So in the mean time feel free to enjoy the MASSIVE 18yr and up abundance that DR has provided for us
SavePros321
11-11-11, 03:08
I think this also has had an effect on the chicas. They now have more mouths to feed. Including the police! Time is money and they simply can't afford to be laid up all day and night for $50. I know some people like to blame the supposed new clientele and hypothesize that this new breed doesn't seek out or value a GFE experience, but I think the chicas are becoming hip to the game. If they can get in / out within a hour and leave $40 richer, I guess they figure they can easily do this 3 times a day and make out better than that $100 GFE. Even if it is that much and probably put in much less work overall.
I have repeatedly said this is my past postings and thank you for pointing this out again. Prior to almost a year ago chicas could stroll the block from sun up to sun down making money. By nightfall some would be done for the day and others who have made their (self-imposed) monetary quotas for the day could throttle back and do a TLN knowing that they will also more than likely get a free meal come morning. In the new atmosphere in Sosua chicas are racing against the clock since they have to start tricking much later than before, so the pressure is on the make as much money as they can before the sun rises. <= (reads "less than or equal to") 3000-3500RD for TLN verses <=1500-2500RD x 4 gringos a night might seem like a much more attractive option to chicas these days. I really can't see a chica traveling all the way from somewhere like SD and risk being arrested only to make $92 (3500RD) per night for a few days. But then again, something is better than nothing.
On the flip side, a chica does risk losing everything she made that night if arrested verses if she would have just accepted 3500RD for TLN.
Charles Pooter
11-11-11, 03:20
I really can't see a chica traveling all the way from somewhere like SD and risk being arrested only to make $92 (3500RD) per night for a few days.Without wishing to contradict your general argument, most chicas who made 3500 for (say) four nights would be delighted. 14, 000 pesos is a month's salary for an educated person with job skills or qualifications. Travel to and from SD is only around 1000 pesos. A day wasted in each direction, but time means nothing to the locals as what else have they got to do.
Marc Anthony
11-11-11, 03:36
I can assure you they do, and they are getting ever more expert at both.I've got to write that down.
Marc Anthony
11-11-11, 03:56
Without wishing to contradict your general argument, most chicas who made 3500 for (say) four nights would be delighted. 14, 000 pesos is a month's salary for an educated person with job skills or qualifications. Travel to and from SD is only around 1000 pesos. A day wasted in each direction, but time means nothing to the locals as what else have they got to do.Sir Charles, in your estimation does a typical DR puta do multiple clients in a day? My impression was always that unlike say NY where there is something of a sellers market, in the DR the puta / monger ratio creates a buyers market (even among dominicans) and most chicas are lucky to hook up with a single client in an evening. Obviously in the distribution some evenings they will have several and some they will have none, but unlike what most Americans and Europeans are accustomed to, putas are not banging guys one after another (through no fault of their own).
Or am I wrong? Even in casas de chicas I don't have the impression that a typical chica has a dance card that's very full. It does make a difference if you are negotiating to understand the background.
This also relates to the ST / LT debate. I have always assumed that most chicas I pick up (and I admit I try hard to avoid hard core pros) really don't have much chance of getting another date anyway. Partly on that basis I always just offer ST and treat them well. Often they choose to stay anyway. That and interviewing them has convinced me of the view that at least the chicas I am interested in tend to feel lucky to pick up one guy in an evening.
Another vaguely related question Sir Charles, is if the extranjero puta rate in Sosua / PP is 1500/2500, what is the typical Dominican rate in a town like La Vega, or San Pedro. 500?
SavePros321
11-11-11, 03:58
Without wishing to contradict your general argument, most chicas who made 3500 for (say) four nights would be delighted. 14, 000 pesos is a month's salary for an educated person with job skills or qualifications. Travel to and from SD is only around 1000 pesos. A day wasted in each direction, but time means nothing to the locals as what else have they got to do.Thanks for this info as it does offer a different perspective.
...but time means nothing to the locals as what else have they got to do.I also want to add that as many times as I have been to Sosua I've only recently found out that when chicas come into town they stay in Charamicos (for some reason I was under the impression that they would rent rooms at places like Europa, which I believe was the case some time ago). So it does work in your favor to get phone numbers at night to have daytime options the following day since most chicas are probably just sitting around in Charamicos all day waiting for someone to call them, lol.
I have repeatedly said this is my past postings and thank you for pointing this out again. Prior to almost a year ago chicas could stroll the block from sun up to sun down making money. By nightfall some would be done for the day and others who have made their (self-imposed) monetary quotas for the day could throttle back and do a TLN knowing that they will also more than likely get a free meal come morning. In the new atmosphere in Sosua chicas are racing against the clock since they have to start tricking much later than before, so the pressure is on the make as much money as they can before the sun rises. <= (reads "less than or equal to") 3000-3500RD for TLN verses <=1500-2500RD x 4 gringos a night might seem like a much more attractive option to chicas these days. I really can't see a chica traveling all the way from somewhere like SD and risk being arrested only to make $92 (3500RD) per night for a few days. But then again, something is better than nothing.
On the flip side, a chica does risk losing everything she made that night if arrested verses if she would have just accepted 3500RD for TLN.You and AH2 make good points. But I'm guessing that these new fast money chics arent getting the WU allotments those "old Sosua" girls were getting providing the GFE fantasy. No one wants to send money to a girl they only banged an hour, then saw someone else banging her later. Factor that in, and things change. Providing TLN, breakfast and the offer of a home cooked meal at her home or a day date, usually left such an impression that some guys rushed to WU once they were in sex prison.
Plus don't forget in the "Old Sosua" there were two shifts. Before, I've had girls I met walking around in Sosua during the day, that would stay with me but wouldn't consider going out at night. Plenty of times I have gone to Classicos and left the day chic in my room. Before. The second shift would be girls who came out only at night from the outter towns, who wouldn't dare walk around Sosua all day tricking. There were girls who worked both shifts, but usually they were more hardcore hustlers.
Another vaguely related question Sir Charles, is if the extranjero puta rate in Sosua / PP is 1500/2500, what is the typical Dominican rate in a town like La Vega, or San Pedro. 500?Haven't been there since 2007, but I speak fluent Spanish and don't look like a foreigner at all. I was in Santiago for a few days with a Dominican friend paying 350 pesos a go at a brothel, and getting all the free sex I could get every night. Headed up to Puerto Plata and was doing average looking girls in a brothel for locals near Montellano for 400 pesos a go.
Mr Enternational
11-11-11, 06:21
I also want to add that as many times as I have been to Sosua I've only recently found out that when chicas come into town they stay in Charamicos (for some reason I was under the impression that they would rent rooms at places like Europa, which I believe was the case some time ago).Many of them rent rooms in several buildings on Pedro Clisante. I have never known any of them to stay temporarily in Charamicos.
On my last visit back in June, you can definitely see and feel the effect of the Global economic downturn. I noticed some restaurants barely had one present customer. Day or night. The bars during the day were basically empty. The insistent "begging" of the peddlers was very annoying. Plus, in general, the attitudes of the chicos were more hardened than my previous trips. A few times I would even notice scowls on some of the faces. I never felt unsafe. However, the total sum of the environment is less than inviting.
I assume the uptick in scams is due to the rising poverty and unemployment. Desperate times call for desperate measures and the basic survival instinct is to do what is necessary to eat. I am not condoning this behavior in the least bit. I'm just trying to wrap some understanding around things.
I think this also has had an effect on the chicas. They now have more mouths to feed. Including the police! Time is money and they simply can't afford to be laid up all day and night for $50. I know some people like to blame the supposed new clientele and hypothesize that this new breed doesn't seek out or value a GFE experience, but I think the chicas are becoming hip to the game. If they can get in / out within a hour and leave $40 richer, I guess they figure they can easily do this 3 times a day and make out better than that $100 GFE. Even if it is that much and probably put in much less work overall.
I am far from a DR expert. A few guys like to paint gloomy and depressing pictures, but I'm not one of them. Although things have changed, in some ways, I noticed improvement. The women I saw out at night looked better than my previous trip. It seems like a bunch of women are now coming from Santo Domingo and Santiago. Two separate women I scooped up, bounced out of town as soon as we were finished and I didn't see a glimpse of them the rest of the weekend.
So, it may be true that the GFE is dying. However, it is not completely done. I had a few opportunities to wife up a nice chica, but I had my boys to entertain. I would like to say that I will chill out this time and seek out a GFE, but who knows? As my trip approaches, I am fired up no matter what rhetoric is tossed around.
I am really concerned about the future and the situation becoming worse. As soon as the thug mentality hits and mongers start getting robbed on a regular, Sosua and other parts of the DR will really see a decline in $$$. It would be best if the police focused on crime and corruption. Leave the fucking putas alone!You are a good dude man, and I can't wait for your review. I have a Thanksgiving trip planned and paid for, but I really don't think its worth the money when I'm going to Medellin soon. When we see ex pats who live there checking out, its like the bartender saying "last call". My regulars have stopped running their phone scams and resorted to straight up begging. Its to the point where I've told them to not call me anymore. We talk about the Sosua male clients changing but the chicas are changing also. Respectfully speaking I think you are in a time warp like me where we can't believe Sosua has changed. Sosua is a quick lick now because women have to dodge the policia. Damn! I don't know if you missed out on Sosua or Sosua missed out on you? You were so perfect for it. I really think a lot of dudes are going to get put in bad situations, because its basically "open season" on us. Make the best of it, but yearn for that next"Old Sosua" like me, but we will find it.
Member #4480
11-11-11, 07:38
I stopped posting, mainly because of the personal attacks (like Pooter complaining about my CAPS) and not really listening to the message.You are not alone. Sadly, this thread has become a microcosm of present day Sosua.
Haven't been there since 2007, but I speak fluent Spanish and don't look like a foreigner at all. I was in Santiago for a few days with a Dominican friend paying 350 pesos a go at a brothel, and getting all the free sex I could get every night. Headed up to Puerto Plata and was doing average looking girls in a brothel for locals near Montellano for 400 pesos a go.Would be helpful to other members if you could give more specifics. Name and location of the 350 pesos per pop brothel in Santiago."How to" get all the free pussy a guy could want in Santiago. The name and location of the 400 pesos brothel near Montellano, thanks.
Reproducing it in full when people are talking about how much fun it is to rent a car is a service. Yah know all those conchos whizzing around? What happens if through no fault your own one of them smashes into you?You immediately drive away as if nothing happened far away from the scene and park in a crowded area like a supermarket lot where you can walk around until you calm yourself. Then you have to deal with reporting the damage to the rental company, in which case they will either ask you to get the report from Casa del Condutor, or in my case, you find a nice manager who will give you another vehicle for a tip on the side.
Grandnash84
11-11-11, 09:56
In the moring my sweeling had went down a lot. Went to the pharmacy and got antibiotics and the dominican bendryl. Then left for sosua. Had a nice ride from sd to sosua. I had no idea that this country is so beautiful. Wasent even a bad ride. Got there in 3 hours with a 1/2 hour stop cause we got a flat and had to get two new tires. Luckily the tire popped about 30 yards away from a tire shop. What luck! It was kinda of cool cause as we were getting the tires changed a cute country girl rode up on her scooter to fix a flat or something. This country girl was really hot. 19 years old. I got her number but I don't think I will call cause she lives in the country and I aint goona get a taxi to drive an hour out to her when I got a whole city of girls to choose from. Got to sosua aka chocolate city (chocolate is my favorite flavor) around 4 pm.
Checked in the hotel, got situated and went walking down the main strip. For the last month I've been waiting to get to sosua from all the stories I've heard. Before I got to sd, I thought sd was going to be boring, I couldn't wait to get to sosua. I was wrong about sd. Well, most of the bars wernt really full except for rumba bar. I got something to eat next door to rumba. I really didn't see much talent there. Most of the girls were un attractive to me. I was kind of dissapointed. After, I decided to get a haircut. Got a real nice haircut for $9 with tip. Good deal since I pay my barber $25 each time. Went to the store and picked some water etc and went back to the hotel. Rested for a minute and went to the rumba bar to watch the radiers game. By this time night had fallen and by half time is when it got a lot better.
When I first got there I sat down and it only took 1 minute before chicas started comming up to me. They come up grabbing your dick, rubbing your back. I was kinda of annoyed at first cause the first few girls were ugly to me. There was this chocolate morena working the bar, her name is raquel. She is smoking hot to me. I was trying to chat with her as much as I could but she was kinda of busy. By the end of the first quarter a fight broke out across the street between two hations. As soon as that happened everyone from all the bars around filled the street to watch including me. It seemed like the police broke it up quick then they let one of the guys go and they started fighting again! Pretty good fight, everyone in the street was clapping and cheering them on including me! LOL. After that I noticed it getting more crowded with a lot of better talent comming out. Sat next to this dominican dude that spoke good english and yes, he was deported from the US! LOL. He told me just wait another 5 min and there will be another fight. Sitting there, he told me all the ugly girls are out in the day, the pretty ones don't come out until night falls. I had a great time chatting with the ladies and some I had to "shoo" away. There are so many pretty girls its unbelivable. But out of all the girls, I really liked the bar tender. She said she has a boyfriend but the dominican guy said it don't matter, they all fucking cheat. After the game I went across the street to classicos.
Man, you can read every post to every thread on here to get an idea of what its like here, you can imagine the best, and it ends up being 10 times better. I wish I was here before the crackdown. I heard it could take you an hour to walk down the street back in the day. Anyways, sat at the bar for a minute and checked the talent. Wow! If the girls wernt comming up to me, they were eye fucking the shit out of me. After my drink and another fight I watched outside I decided to head upstairs. The dominican dude told me there is like 200 girls up there. I was like yeah right. When I got up stairs, I don't know if there was 200 but it was pretty dam close. So I wipe the drool off of my face and start mingling with the ladies. By this time I'm having a great fucking time, I see at least 30 girls I wanted to fuck. But I got this strange feeling in my head. All these girls are prostitutes, and for some reason it got me turned off. I came on this trip to monger, but in sd, I only did one chick at gbp, the rest were all non pros. I don't know why I suddenly got turned off, I think I got too spoiled with getting regular non pros in sd. I can't put my finger on it, but all these prostitutes turned me off. This never happened before, and I don't know why, cause a lot of these girls are gorgus. I think one reason might have been that I wanted that bartender really bad. And the fact that I didn't get her probbaly fucked up my night cause that was like the first time I got rejected in the DR. I stayed flirting with the girls until about 1:30 then I decided to call it a night. First night in the dr I hadn't got laid. Walking back to the hotel, I passed rumba and saw the bartender sitting. By this time rumba was dead. I walked up to her and started chatting again. I asked her in my broken spanish that I thought she was beautiful and I wanted to take her out to eat. I wish I spoke spanish so I could understand what she was telling me. I think she said her day off is Tuesday, the day I'm leaving. Gave her a kiss on the cheek and told her I'm comming back to see her tomarrow. Headed back to the hotel to write this.
I hope I don't get flamed for this report cause I didn't go crazy like everybody said I would. Don't get me wrong, this fucking city is paradise. I haven't seen nothing like this before. I think that maybe the fact I got rejected by the bartender and the fact that there are very few non pros out here turned me off. I guess I got spoiled in sd. When I left for the dr I only had mongering on my mind, I didn't expect it to be so easy to get regular girls off the street. Here its like mongering is the only reason to come to sosua and it is. I'm not saying that you won't have fun is sosua, I just probably wasent in the mood. Maybe my nuts are drained and I need to just take a break. BUT I AM DEFIENTLY GOING OUT TOMARROW AND FUCKING AT LEAST 3 CHICAS TOMARROW. FOR SURE! I think when I get the first nut out the way ill be fine. Even if I don't feel like it, I'm doing it anyways, for you guys! LOL. Stayed tuned for tomarrow's report cause I'm going to have 3 chicas to report back on! If I don't, Jackson can ban me!
P. S. That crazy girl people talked about on this thread, the one with the tattos on her chest like a rosary or something. The crazy one another member had problems with that been working in sosua for years, she approached me and I immediatly reconized her. She has braces now, just on the top row of teeth. After reading those reports, I know to stay clear of her. After she left (I had to shoo her away) the dominican dude I was sitting with told me to stay away from her, he said "she is sick." dosent take a genius to figure out what that meant.
SavePros321
11-11-11, 11:11
...I'm having a great fucking time, I see at least 30 girls I wanted to fuck. But I got this strange feeling in my head. All these girls are prostitutes, and for some reason it got me turned off. I came on this trip to monger, but in sd, I only did one chick at gbp, the rest were all non pros. I don't know why I suddenly got turned off, I think I got too spoiled with getting regular non pros in sd. I can't put my finger on it, but all these prostitutes turned me off.Excellent report bro and I am definitely looking forward to reading more. You probably already have an idea about what I am about to say based on what I quoted from you above:
I have read some of your reports in the SD forum and I really don't see how the prostitutes in Classicos are any different than the prostitutes ("non-pros"; a misnomer in this case) you were banging in SD. You had a tout (your taxi driver Fabio) find you chicas who would have sex with you in exchange for money. I don't believe he would have gone out of his way to do this for you if there no monetary gain in it for him, and I do not believe you would have been banging those "non-pros" if there were no monetary gain in it for them.
Called fabio and asked to hook up with him tonight.
Picked me up and I told him I was interested in meeting non pros. Not a problem. We met this first morena with a fat ass, a little too fat. I told him I like big booties but dam! Not big bellies too. I guess its that language barrier, plus she had a huge birthmark on her face that didn't look good. We drove to where she was and when she came out I told fabio I wasent interested and he told her and then we left. He called another one and we met up she was ok, maybe a 7 in the face but a really nice body. I told him 1500 pesos. She said she needed to money so I decided to go since I hadn't had any pussy all day. Had to go to a cabana cause she could not find her I'd to get into the hotel. Ok session at the cabana.
Even in the DR it probably highly unlikely that a non-pro is going to the cabana with a gringo the first night they meet for 1500 pesos. They may have been semi-pros no doubt (chicas that hook part-time) , and i am sure Fabio found you some nice hidden gems, but at the end of the day a prostitute is a prostitute is a prostitute. Eliot Spitzer would agree.
Hillbilly69
11-11-11, 12:22
I have never known any of them to stay temporarily in Charamicos.Apparently you never visited what I call the Puta Hotel in Charmicos. They stack in there like rats. Don't remember the real name of the place, look at map location.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=202115846141467908565.0004afc37912917c547ae
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